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NOTES AND QTJERIES 



LITESAIT ME9, GENERAL READERS, ETC. 



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SIXTH SERIES,— VOLUME TENTH. 
JcLT — ^December, 1834. 



LONDON: 

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«»s.x.JuLT 5,-84.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 

NOTICE. 



NOTES AND QUEBIES. 

The VOLUME, JANUARY to JUNE, 1884, with the INDEX, . 
FBIGB 10a ed. IS NKARLT READY. 
Cues for Bindizig, price Is. 3</. port free. 



JOHN G. FRANCIS, 20, Wellington Stnet, Stmnd, London, W.C. 



Now ready, price 6*. 

THE GENERAL INDEX 

TO THE 

FIFTH SERIES 

OF 

NOTES and: queeies. 

Vols. L to XIL, 1874 to 1879. 
(Two Vols, in each Year.) 



V The GENERAL INDEX to the FOURTH SERIES may still 

be hadi price 6j. 

JOHN 0. FBAKCIS> 20, WftUiugton SUoet, Strand, W.O. 



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JTERARY MEN, GENERAL READERS, ETC. 



" Wh«a found, m«k* & nou of."— OArTAn ConxB. 



No. 236. 



Saturday, July 5, 1884. 



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HnnlloaUar. — rrrtodKPpllUtloi) tu JAMGn KlK t i r.l, 
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CATALOGUE (No. 14) of CURIOUS; OLD, and 
RARE BOOKh now r«uly. luoluJn Gm "pvcUofiu at Early 
I'rittlluc and niaek L«lt<r— r«|)»«ti'>o( uf Morfei oo P«TMlrr. A«i. 
auil uf ttiiiltth Tupuvraphr -~l*L*t Inv mi apvlUMtoa lo USUKUK I*. 
JiJil.NSl'un. ». 0»jr|« etmi, Eaiubwia. 

SALKELD'S CATALOGUE <Nd. 218) of 
JtEcoMLBijoKS jui-loJw the l.Htnrr vl lUv late Pr. TravM, 
'•ocIaI HKr^rin-r, aul Author of " Muial liiH"rn,~ ~ £ffcctual Kt- 
raftii." ■•►>»■ Will aod U*."A<\ Heady J«1r Till -Add(*M JOfirC 
aALKELP.JtI. t.lairliain Ht<*d. Lu«dMi.r-.W.~Ubnr»i i'vnfaBMd. 




ALLEN'S 

PORTMANTEAUS, 

X. STBAND. LOHDOK. 

SrnoNHi iiKESt BABItBtH. 

OV£ULASO TKCBKS. 

OLAD!iT0:«Il UAUS, Be. 

Uluinitd biUoriH tn«. 



Cub 

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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



(6* a X. Jdlt B, 'U. 



WORKS 



ov 



WILLIAM J. THOMS, F.S.A. 



Kow n«dy, put evo. 10/. fttf. 



The LONGEVITY of MAN : ito Facta and 

<u Ficllonf. Willi K Frelfttorj- Utter to Prof. Owen, C.B., 
" Ud ffUoptional Lanj^vitj' : lU LlinlU niiil Frniutocy." 

"Mr. Tbons vai admlnbly qiikllRod ta |>«rfAroi Ili« lt>k 
wlitch ht bu usdcfUkea, Bud li« bu parforined it with aignal 
tuccML . . . . No one but BlrOvorgeC. L«wla could have und«r- 
takin inch a work with uioh mdrftnUjcei, Knd *na ht tonH 
net ban prodtie«d ■ more pracUcal ud Intelllitoni book." 

Lav Uagaiine and fytttit, 

** Ut. VhoaiM hmt {uu«d «now hU fnterMting IrvftlUo on 
'Baoiui hoagtthi.' The vkIuo of the book la enhinccd Ij 
tba ftddlllott of an eicclUnl Ull«r, full of humour uid lUrewitl- 
BOB, and ftddr«»ed to iToC Uwcn."— JtAnumiN. 

Mftjr be bad aepkntelj'. price If. jiovl free. 

EXCEPTIONAL LONGEVITY: its Limits 

Rnd Freqiuncy. Coariianni In a Letter to Prof. Owen, CO. 



Price Ii. port Bro. (post freet. 
The DEATU WARRANT of CHARLES 

llie FIIIST. (Anotbet UUtoric Doubt. I 

" Mr. Thoma^dlei nuny more facti to ibow tliat the wwruil 
wu only pwtlally ttgncd on the iSHh, «nd tbkt many of tba 
ftlKRatum were obtatoed by hook and by crook during llie two 
pr«c«diuff «Uyi, nnd the obviaus infcrvnce ia th»t the dealb 
Vltmnt 0/ CltarUa I. wa* a document in every way IrrcfuUr." 

FrlM 3f. Ud. eloUi boftrdi. 
HANNAH LIGHTFOOT; QUEEN 

CHARUjTTE and the CHEVAUER D'EON ; DB. Wllr 
WOrS I>0L1SH PltlNCESS. 

"Tlieae antlqaated icandali am heniblovn to the wtnda by 
imaiaUble evidence."— in«nwu Cfnititr. 

Hr. Tlioaii bai lo Qfty pagra— rendablo and w«l) worili 
raadlng— carr*ct«d the creduUiIei of ■ century'i iMiip. and 
PMlcibuled eome very ImporUut lilitorical facta." 

BirtAin^lutm Jcurnal, 

London i F. Nobqate, 7. King Stnet, Coreot Gftrdbo, 



CATALOGUE of RARE and CtTRIOUS BOOK^ 
Bclka-r^tlrwi. Wita. I'cttrT, TriTrlB. Fmctk Itowtan*^, emvtmt 
IlUtorlH. Trlkia- tl|iiair»uil wnrkt, ha , nat.* in Ona JOttdmBL— 
PnmjaUniflo W. AVkUY.lB. Culiat* su««. Ik>b*. 

CtATALOOUE (No. 8) of RARE and CURTOCS 
' BOOK*. loolBdtfMasaTtt Old Plaraand Dmlia. f^ak««p*«rt«aa. 
Curtoaa, V^eetMi. wiMhnafi. te, fr»« on apalioauaa. DItJKKM 
CaTALOGDE. a few 0<^4«e «Ml7 n«Ba<a,pnc« if. -J. W. JAJITU 



A CATALOGUE (So. ii) of BARE, CUIUOCS, 

^ a. aod rszrVL BO<fKB la rarlaM CUaaw of Ut'raiQr*. wnt at 
i:&jillih mai t'onin LMcnana. wiu l« I w ai d ad •a nrtlpt afataiaa 
for jfwtaie by fi. W. VTlliM, BaukMUcr, at, Uaaaum Slrtwt. Loodao, 



SECOND-HAND BOOKS. Aneieiit and Mod< 
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OB av»ll«tlMi.-A. r. TeBSoCot, Aioade. OardtK. 






wiTa ruBrAOB bt j. a. rBonni. 

yowraadf, lBlTeta.HYk prIoaMa 

TRELAND in th« SEVBNTKKNTH CENTCmY; 

J. 'Hf. tt.« IrUIi Uaaawrta »rif4l-l, l>>tlr Ciuit* tad Kotu)ta Bf 
HliKti MIcKhoM.Anthiir of 'Old Kciiy UccuiOi." UiUi Iftltal 
bf J A. FRUODK. 

• •• ]q tbaMVoluma Illutntur Kitraeta are Ktvao tnm tli« ■&• 
anbttfbcd ttlata E*ar>ar«- IIm CBpuMtabtd M »it. Id tba B»dMaB Ltferaty, 
Lkifihrth I.lbrwT. aad tha Lt-ranr xf ib> Rujal titibltt) VuiMr !«• 
Iftitiig to th« PiaBUUaoaaf ie>e-ie: awlactloo fraa ib« earoblMM 
Hc'iiiitiDnt iBlatlna u lb* Mwaaorca. wilfa FMatmilMi aodltlta B^ 
porrif.ith«Tna]ao(Slr rhaUaKTHail. l^rd Maikany. Vfoat^Oaaa ' 
lyKvilly, Mud utiiara tn lb* Hl«b C*urt of JaaU««,MM-4, tnm I 
uDiJutiUabcl Uu. ta Titalty CoUm. DvUin. 

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Iconjer of Vno SirMd, IV. Ilr* tauMUtitd I7vy Home and 
PonUn Ifiauntncaaat nodinlt ratca. Llfi tilabUabad lfl1«. tl»aolaU| 
low ratca (or jtrunt liTM. Largo Boooeta- lumedlata MUltateatht 
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HOLLOWAY'S OINTMENT and PILLS.— 
I'iKaan and camalUct laaldaBlal la loutli vit,y l« aafaty 
tmi'd t^ tiir uu at tbaaa ttotllaat nadSeuaaDta accvrditiir to th« 
prlct'd direatiuna r»ld«d laund nah pot aud >iok. ^u^ U (lil* uinu 
uirnl !Ll<if)« ai'pUaablo to axtaraal allmant*; e»iij*lat]r with Ih' Ciila 
li rxrrctvc* tiM Bt«al aalutary inBi)t«oo la diccklos au'iHr Jii.ui« 
■ilualrii 111 tttp lutcrkirof lb* mdy t wbtn rabhad npon iha ti^ ~ 
obaat llgiTfa ibanoat aeaalbla n\Ut Id aiU>iaa,brvtkebt%lat| 
aod tbraatcolna eonatUBrUoo. Ilollowar'a r«ucdlM ata It 
iWfvtccaMa In Urtr and aloiaaob oumptalula. For tba core of t 
■II tarla of woundt. aorta, aeroralt^a ulotratlmu, and •ootbaM 
tlooi, thU OtDUneoi r"xlaafa a ewlUtg and looUiliig eOtet, f 
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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



LOItDOy, SATC1U)AI\ JVLV y tIM. 



CONTBNTS.— N» 236. 

NOTES:— Thlrf PiMt of "Bok« of St. -V)b»D«," 1— Tltbllo- 
gnithr ol CliKuoer. 3— Letter oT 8tr J. UowrlDg. 4— IioUlcil 
UoTtus In GIIitaIUt — Uow, Ihe Plimt«. 6— Lonl C^okburo 
tad Hoattachw— KkrlliMt VsrBe In lt«IIui— Oteo mm Mosvjr 
^I>ocaDMiit of 8ir luu 24ewtoD, 0— CoiaddoDw, 7. 

QlTEItTRS ;~8)ukap«4rl»Q Qnariu— Portrdt o! Hi. JnruinB, 7 
"Ony of Wiltoa, B-KafUtcr o( Lcclih«ni|>ato»<l— UutK- 
qoonin— Oakar-Uukldle-^t. Paul's i'atli*.-i1r«l— Acwpl«1 
Fr»ir«n— Atkinson— Rn7»l M*it1*«* «Uh • SUm-KUis 
Arthoi— 'WllUftm of Worcertw— Frtncli Kftinilj. »-Aiito- 
Sn^h Letlew »Dd UiatotT— Aolhorahip o( Myron*— KnjIUh 
Hbidci fur Flowtn utd 8tt«Us— CoUtcUoQl ftbout tiU&U, Ac. 
— iUbu, 10. 

BEPLIBB:— Roeocn. 10— SlRn^tOTM to CoveTianl. 11— Cole- 
rldfa'l " Bffnorse " — Poilci for Rings— " iKnoruKn the 
tDOtbor of dovolloa"— Kuowing Fin». 1-2— Itaof: Bitmc : 
Cdpe— PnMfa nt Lit^rur Pftoae— Kh«illT«— TonsinatloB 
"o*," IS- Prtitw Joha'i Ann»-,8omo UlwolMe Wora»— 
BOffDAl Yau>— "Knlitlit of Toneotiarg"— Lamb aad Mint 
flaoM. 14— Devico oa Plctai« — KnKbib JudldAl Ouatumfl— 

[ Thorpe, SniT*")r— Btvwcr'i " Phrwe and I'ablc "— I>»t» of 
PhrtM— UvbniH Luicuaxe. lu — Tumb ol ThacketaT*' 
Farratt — Balloon, Ifl — KcUpasi of tbc ^^tln — loverletl 
CbftVTon, 17— OakTrea and Coot«ata -" < J1<1 Rneliah Dnua " 
•~Petiir Jacluoa : PbUip Jaokun— Hwurgam, is. 

K0TE3 ON BOOKS:— Wfiuani" Blblloirraphy of tbalUcon- 
Sbakupearv Controvenjr ' — " JobA WlcUf, Paltlot ajid 
Kofonner." 

KoUeM to 0(»rMpond«BU. ko. 



" oon of the kyng'u biige " (bkdge) and 
home." 



raiu^H 



K0TB3 ON THE THIHD I'ART OP THE 
"BOKE OP ST. ALBAJIS." 

ThU work was printed at SU AlbaDB by the 
Schoolmanter Printer in 1486. I have lately been 
reailing it, and have made notea of some carious 
and rare voids coutained in it. So far as I know, 
theie haTo not been commented oo before, so they 
may be of uae to the reader of *' N. & g." The 
book ia not paged, bat there will be no difiicutty 
in Terifying the rofeTenoee (the extracts are taken 
in order). 

MS.W. ^the edition printed at Weetminater by 
Wynkyn do Worde, 1498 ; reprinted in London 
by White & Cockrane, 1810. 

Cb.=u«ed by Chaucer. 

The first sentence of the third part explaios the 
nature of Uie work, viz., a treatise upon heraldry : 

"Here in thjre books follovrynx ia dotermynoJ tbe 
ttMige of coot ai-muru : and how geotilmon eliall bo 
kDOwyn from imgoDlUmeu." 

Linage (Oh. lynage), lineage. 

Cool omiuru (Ch. cote armure), a coat worn 
over the armour, on which the aroiorial bearings 
of the wearer were painted. Is ia the plunil 
form. Other flimilor plurals found ia this book 
are : beatys, werrya (wars), talys, maydooys, 
sparria (span = bats), treys f trees), armys. Is, 



I 



" Iniomocb ttiatfe kII gentilnes oumtu;ii of Got! of 

hcTyu, Rt hcTjii 1 will begin, whpre Lucifer with 

myliony'fl of mngelii uwt of bevyn fell unto bell and 
odyr jilacci. aud leu holdyn ther in bonat^, ftnd all ware 

*Ttct£d in beryn of Kentill nalura .Adam the be- 

gfUBjng of tuankynd wa« as a gtooko ttiuuraytd aiul4 
unflorMhcd, and in th<: brauocbfli is knowledge wicba is 
rotun and wioli ii grcne." 

hmt present tenae plural, " are " (Ch.). 

liouage may only be a niiaprint for " bondage^" 
which, Skoat says, is the M.E. form. 

Krtcttd, raised, brouf;ht up. 

Vn^raytdy without spri^ or shoots. Spray 
(see Skeat) is the aatuo as prov. £. »prag, a sprig. 
Posiibly atparagus comes from the same root. 

The author diridea the world into three parts : 

" Burope, that is to sajr, tbc cuutre of Churlya. Asia. 
tbaC is to lay, tbc cootre of gentUmen. AlTrtca, that is 
to Bay, tbe contre of fam/mmw," 

Te\npurnti (MS.W. the oountree of temper- 
aunce) means, I think, a mixiwt of churls and 
gentlemen : " Ttnvpt^^ due mixtare of contrary 
tjualitiee " (Walker's Dici.\ Trench disoasses 
tbe word, St\uly uf \Vord$t p. 129, 

" UUt and ful of courage" (Aife-hot). " UoU 
brenniDf; as fire" oocurs just below. Chaucer 
uses ** bote and brenningly "; of /(t/<- hot I have 
not been able to find another exampla 

Tront (Ch.) and irunhj, for "throne" and 
" thronely." 

Smaraydmat looks insoluble at first sight, but 
it ia only Timpayutn, an emerald, Englished. 

The four yirtuea of chiralry are worUiy of being 
set down at length : — 
"Fowor vertuyiorcbifalrie bene ilicii. 
" Tbe first it juste in his bestys, cleoness of bit per* 
■one, jMiti to liavo to tbe pore, to be graciuiis to his 
ptreonor, to be revereod and faTthfol to bU Qod. 
" Tbe aeciiiidB Li tbat bu be wyse in his bittayl, 

Erudcnt in bis figbtyng. knowyng and kaWDg miode in 
is wittes. 

" Tbo tbirdc Is. tbat be be not bIowc in bis werrys, loke 
before tbat bit quar«ll be true, tliank god ever of his 
Tictori, aud fur to bave meaauro in bis luitenaDoe 
[moderation in bit manner of lif«]. 

" Tbo iiij is to be stronga nnd ntedfa^t in bU hot*- 
uaunco — to liopo to hare tbe victory, und ro(U noC from 
tbe fielde nnd not to sbame hit cote armurr, unJ that he 
b« nut bustful of his maabode, lokc tbat [be be] ourtes, 
lowly, and gcntill, and without rcbawdry ia bis lan> 
guage." 

"TboiiiJ lOTcrayn gentilneaei ben tbeis 
few othes In iweryofr 
botom to goddis byddvng 
knowyng hie own birth tu betyng 
and to drcda his soTorayn to offends." 
Bo.com (Ch. baxome),* obedient. See Skeat. 



[* A curious and, we fancy, unrecorded use of the 
word hnucomiuue is found In Ooulcre, I)e /EfyimtM /'rtV 
OpMW .* — 

** God tokc upnne bym bumble buxomnesio 
Whan ht bjm wrappeds in oar mortalls rynde." 

P. 128-3 

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Among the contrary Ticea ibe third is " to it-j/rfe 
from his sorernygnea bmer in the felde." MS. W. 
hu voyd* for " wjd*." Walker ha?, " To void, to 
quit, to leave empty." Skeat (i.v. "Void") Bays 
taere waa an O.F. verb riaW<r = to void, Cot^jrave. 
Joit itbove we lind " to hope to have the victory, 
and roilf. not from the fielde," &.C. I suspect this 
is a misprint for voitl in the same sense. 

Aktmdis (MS.W. alyens). 

Agonyi (MS. W. ageost), againitt. 

Fatelchm (^iS.\V. fawcon), falchion. 

Ooosdy and goslly (Cb. gost). 

Foo (Ch.)^ foe. 

Mtny <MS.W. meyneX hoasehold, from Lit. 
minora nalu, hence " menial" [sec Skeat), 

2*^oon (Ch.) = noBC. 

" An iiiia;7«rd prince" (MS.W. tinagyd). I have 
not found a sioiiUr use of this word. 

Amond the " nyne manner of gentylmen "; — 

"Tber ii a fKnt;tuiau untrviiK. nii<l ilior \a a fc^tly- 
niAQ ypocrejft, and thoris a gootyliUHn apery tuall.'* 

And further on we road : — 

" Tbst other is calk>d in ormys a iceQtill m&n nppo- 
CTif'iU tlmt is to mj mfidfl Tpp and Rouyn to bim th« 
name and ihc l>ut.T;>y of n gontylmaii." 

I can Bad uo other instance of ypocrrxftt or 

Since writinf; the nbove I bare found, in Sir John 
Fertie'a Blaztn of Gentry, p. 89, '^ Aprucra/at, 
Btudenta of comiuon Iaw sud groains of the sore* 
reign's palace, having no coat-armunr." 

"Deuico by an herald iyorwrt" (j{iven). There 
is much variety in the spellinf; ; here we have 
herald, elsewhere herrod and herrowde (Cluheraad, 
herowd ; MS.W. heroude). 

i'l/, if ; tyn, since (botb Ch.). 

As in Chaucer, the definite article is often lo- 
oarporatfd with words beponin^ with a vower, and 
we find '* thappostilles," '* thoritauoce," " tbexcel- 
lonlj" '* thendys/' '^ Julian tbappostita emproure," 
&e. 

"If ho had vithcw forth" (MS.W. yawwe), 
issue. 

Euych (Cb. cche), each. 

Gromyt (Cb. beide • gromcs, shepherd- boy a), 
grooms. 

The following are interesting as pTurnls : — 
colowris, thyDjitKi'i nowria, leeuys ((eaves), dedys, 
swereddys (M.S.W. 8werde»). 

Sticeetsaries (MS.W. successonrs). 

Ouerivart (MS.W. overwhart), across. A. -3. 
^weorh, oblique, whence " athwurt." See glottaary 
to Sj^cimetu of Early Englith, Morris and Skeat, 
pt. li. 

"The tesonis I lowm not" (M3.W. lowe), 
lUow. 

Atm (Ch. am) = are, Morris, Bist. Eng, Qram. 
p. 168. 

Examples of and'='i( {Ch.) :—\." And hit be 
well mode" (Ch. hit, byt),' 2. "For and it be 



dynidid"; 3. " Bot mid a man beholde well"; 
"Then may the bayre, and bim list, bere," _ 
"And him li3t"=^ir it please him. L%*t (Cft 
liste, lestf>, lyste), verb impersonal, it pleuea; 
tense luste, 

Puochit (MS.W. pitched), to pkhe, and 
pycctu Qtjigityne, pkkahull or Jixaiull: — 

" Aoil in my face deep furrowes eld bath prsrli." 

Spenser, Skep. Cat, (Dec^ 

See Skeat, " Pitch " (3), to Bx a campi 

" A crafty ittan, a roper, as he hym solfe aayd," 
Roper, a crafty fellow, a rogue (Qslliwell); pro- 
bably from a rope being twUUd (see Skeftt). 

'^Certan instrument of ynie" (MS.W, yreD). 

" la mylnys " (MS.W. luylles; Ch. mylne, adj.). 

GyU (Ch. kiIb), guile. 

Clouyn (MS.W. clonen), cloven. 

/{reed (MS.W. and*Cb. bredo), breadth. 

On, oofif one. So Chaucer. 

.S!aym = say, third plural. 

Ntiioyt (Ch. newow, Dev7we),nephefni or j 
sons. 

A n<»dy« (MS.W.ayenst). See Skeat, "Anci 

Eurich oon (Ch.), every one. 

"It mai fortunt," happen. 

" An egie tpUiyd with 2 neckts." See Ske 
8. p. A contraction of " dlaplay "; used by Chaue 
The sense "to dislocate" is due to the fiict th 
to *' dtsplny " formerly meant to carve or cut upl 
bird ; whence " splay-footed." ' 

(hadidij (MS.W. gradydly), Lat. gradalim. 

Coon is a word often used. I suppose itisi 
a comer. 

Liclm<s (MS.W. lykces), likeness. 

Ificr<seenli$, crescents. 

Chcnyt (MS.W. cbenyd\ chained. 

Appropurt (MS.W. apropred ; Ch. appropend 
appropriated. 

Gre by gre (MS.W. gree), step by step (C 
For "degree": — 

" lice ii a ahapbcard greitt in gree, 
Uut liHtlt beon Iodk ]r]>cnt." 

Speoier, Sfup. Cut. ( Julj), 

Chtkkir (Cb. chekkere), a cheaa-board. 

Jlool (Ch. hole, hoi), whole. 

Whid' (Ch. whcder), whether. 

ieN[/d(MS.W.liuyd), lived. 

Trw (Cb. trewe ; MS.W. true). 

"Tbe wioh instrument /i;j|ji other while to 
hand." Snttt There must be a miBpriat hei 
MS.W. gives tervitk. 

As an example of varieties of ppelltng, in tl 
lines we find fontana, fontanytj and /ontvns, 

Utdc {Cb.)=he&d. 

A boon = above. So MS.W. 

liighUoyt, tbe original form of " righteous." 
Skeat 

" CowpuU of fparris" (Ch. sparre, a bar). 
Skeat, " Spar " (1). Spenser tises aptrre. 

" Carpentaries and makeiis ol bowses." 



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** Arrays swjing " (Ch. sue), following. 

Cony^ir^ {A--S. cunnAj to know), caDning ; ftlao 
Bp«U conig, 

" Ceruu londU bQtongyog to the monnW* (MS. 
W. moant). I soppoee thia meaos throne. Ualli- 
vell f^vea mountour, a tbroae, but I havo nob 
foand another iDstanco of inounti. 

AUoii (Ch. alloon), alone, 

fr*T«rM (Cb. weue, to weare], weavflrr. 

Sponn^a \eooi (Ob, tponne, past tense of 
" spiuiie "). 

Jinly (MS.W. bely), belly. • 

"Thetis to uvU,"&o. (Ch.). 

Lukuntf Ubened. 

it/Zot/f. livelihood. See Skeat, " Lode." A.-S. 
Uf, life ; lad, a loftdiog. 

^ttartf, nygmtyM, or kteperis, Auaris, avari, 
avarictoiu nieu. A*v(T'>nj/« (CTh. ny^f^nnn), a 
oiftgard; aee Skeat, "NiK^ard." AV/im't (M8.VV. 
kepers), keepers (of money, »tc.). For another 
example of " a nyguD and auaroiu" m^n sea Sptc. 
of Early Eng., pt. ii. p. 60. 

Lf/itU gttyn tonnys (Ch. lefal), lawfully be- 
gotten. 

i/«yr, kayn, ayre, all forms of " heir." 

CAyWer- children. F, W. Wkavbr. 

MlltoD Viearage, Grercroecli, DaiIi, 



L. 



BIBLlOORAPHy OP CHAUCER. 
(8«B 6»»' 8. Till 381 ; ix. 138. HI, 361, 122, 402.) 

Modernized versiouB and trauBlatiouB : — 

"Fablea, Ancient and Modem, trunslated into 
Teno from Ilomer, Ovid, lioccace, and Chaucer, 
by Mr. Dryden," folio (Lond., ITiMi). ContaiD» 
*' The Knight's Tale " and " Nun's Priest's Tale " 
by Chaiioer ; several editions from 17I.K) to 1774. 

John Dart published in 1718 " The Compliiint 
of the Black Kuight from Chaucer," which is not 
Chaucer's, but most likely Lydf^ate's ; and in a 
rotame contaiuinK Ovid's " Art of Love " and 
other poems, translated hy Dryden, Congreve, 
and Tate, there is '* The Court of Love : a Tale 
from Chancer/' which volume was fret]ueDtIy re- 
printed during the laet century ; but *' The Court 
of Love " ta not Chaucer's. 

"The Carpenter of Oxford ; or, the Miller's 
Tale," from Chaucer by 3. Cobb, to which are 
added two imitations of Chaucer, "Susannah 
and the Elders" and "Eul Robert's Niece," by 
Matthew Prior, Esq., 8vo. (Lond., 1712). 

" The CADterbury Tales, modernised by several 
hands" (Lond., 17-11), i vole, bvo, Ciintains 
portrait by Heath and lift) hy Urry ; the principil 
translators were Betterloo, Ijoyle, Uryden, Pope, 
and 0>Ele. 

In Nichols's Literary Anmlofes, vol. iij. p. 625, 
record is made of a veniou of some of '* The 
Tales " by a Mr. Andrew Jackson (Lond., 1700). 

" The (linterbnry Tales," complete in a modem 



version by W. LipKombi ALA« (liond., 1795)| 
3 Tola. 870. 

'*The Poems of Chancer Modemixsd,'' by 
Wordsworth, Leigh Hunt, Korne, Bell, and 
others, with life hy Scbmilz, 12mo. (Lond., 1R41). 

" Cabinet Pictures of finitUsh Life," from the 
prolot;uea to Chancer'* *'C4ntcrhiiry Talcs," in 
prose, hy J, Saunders, in one of Knight's weekly 
volumes, 13ma, (Lend., 1846), 

"Tales from Chaucer in Prose," by Cowden 
Clarke (Lond., 1833), ISmo. A second edition 
in 8vo. revised. 1870. 

"The Riches of Chaucer," poems modeniixed, 
with life, by Cowden Clarke, 8vo. (Tjond., 1870). 

" The Oitnterbury Tiles done int^ Modem Kog* 
lish," by F. Clftrke, 8vo. (Taunton, 1870). Only 
one volume pnblisbed. 

"Canterbury Chimes,'' Cbanoer*8 tales retold 
for children, iu prose, hy F. Storr and H. Turner, 
8vo. (Lond., 1878). 

"Chaucer for Children, a Golden Key," being 
proee versions of several tales by Mrs. Haweia, 
illustrated, 4to. (Lond., 1677). An 8vo. edition 
in 1882. 

" Chaucer for Bohools," by Mrs. Hawaii, Bvo, 
(Lond., 1881). 

*' Chaucer's Stories Simply Told," hy Mary Sey- 
mour, illustrated by Scannell, 8vo, (Lond., 18^). 

"Selections from the Canterbury Tales," ren- 
dered into modem Koglish, with close adherence 
to the lanfiuage of the poet, by F. Pitt-Taylor, 
poet evo. (Lond., 1884). 

" Contes de Canterbnry, tradnito en vers fran- 
rais par le Chevalier de Cbatelain, 3 torn,," 8vo. 
(Lond., 1857-60). 

Editions of the prologues and some of 
" The Tales," annotated for educational use, are 
numerous ; it is needless to specify them here ; 
the best are those edited for the Clarendon Press. 

BioKraphiea of Chancer : — 

A life of the poet is prefixed to the following: 
.Spe;^ht's, TTrry's, John Bell's, Anderson's, Chal- 
mera's, Whittini^ham's. the Aldlne, Robert Bell's, 
and Oilman's Riverside Chaucer. 

The only important separate biography is thafc 
by William Godwio : — 

" Ltfo of Geoffrey Chaucer, iacludini; Memoirs 
of his Friend and Kinsman John of Gannt. with 
Sketches of the Manners and Literature of Kng- 
Iftod in the Fonrteeoth Century." First edition 
in 2 Tola. 8vo. (Lond., 1303) ; second in 4 vols. 
8vo. (Lond.. 1804). Translated into Qerman by 
Brvyer, of Jena, 181^ 

A life of Chaucer in prefixed to " Seleolinna " 
from his works by ( !, D. Uashler, 8va (New York, 
1847). 

The following publieationi of the Chaucer 
Society deal with the facta of the ^oel'a Ufe - — 
rutaWa\Va"TLtu\-lOTfcHQTii\ftVNa'^»aiil^^'^'^'*-"»^ 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



t»>BLX. Jotr5/l 



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of the Minor Poems/ *'briDB:iog oat Chkucer'B 
early, bur. hopeless loire," 1871. 

*' Itife-Kecords of Cbancer," in two parts, issued 
in ISTH and 1876. Another purl promtaed. 

The following have been overlooked : — 
" The Canterbury Tales and the Fairie Queene, 
with other Poems uf Chancer and Spencer.'* 
Edited for Popular Pcrusul, with current Illustra- 
tive liDd Kxplunstory Notes, by D. Lainf{ Purres. 
8ro. Kdinbnrgh, 1870. Contains a life of Chaucer 
and enod notes. 

"The Canterbury Tales from Chaucer." By 
Joha Saunders, i -vols., 12ino. London, 184.^ 
CoDipanion volumes to the " Pictures of English 
Life" from Chaucer, in Knight's Weekly Volume. 

J. Maseell. 
Mr. Maskp.u. has not mentioned that Morris's 
Aldin? edition of Chaucer was rei^gued by Messrs. 
Bell & Daldy (n.d., but 1872). The preface, dated 
" Tottenham, Nov., 1866," is reprinted, followed 
by "Preface to the Second Kdition," undated. 
There are three appendices inserted in the first 
volume (pp. 253*-277*), and an appendix in the 
sixth volume eoDtaioi earlier versions of three 
poems. John Raxdau* 



LETTRTt OP Sir J. Bowntwo. — A friend of 
mine, M, Ludorio Lalanne, Librarian of the 
French Institute, is now engnged in preparing for 
publication the correspondence and journals of 
Fauriol, the celebrated professor and lUtirateiir 
(see Sointe-Beuve'sOrtK^iMi et Portrait). In the 
COUfse of his editorial labours ho hns discovered 
three letters addressed to Fauriel by Sir John 
Bowritii^r, and through his courtesy I am enabled 
to present these letters to the readers of your ex- 
cellent journal. They strike me as most interest- 
in;;, and iLluatmt.e in a curious manner tbe 
political as well as the literary intorconrso which 
existed between Prantie and England during the 
peign of Louis XVIII.:— 

SSeptoTtibre. 1S2I. 

Mon cRer ami f Oui ,' je me serrirni de cc mot 14. Do 
looilos titreeo'eatlr nrul qui Tsutqutlqiie ctiofts. Il«ndi°i- 
1« turn ; c'ett una alTnire fnits. L'tmiti^, c'svt U \»ix 
porpotuells cntre let Imlirlius. BxUtait-elle entre les 
DAttons, qu" JcrienJrail I"* (fueirel 

J'ai 6crit A notre connmulii. notr« excellent ami 
Thierry.* Je lui ai dit que j'alUis *wblir un Impflt sur 
votrti boiitj, mail o'est siir voi riclioifes, ct j otipLTo qu« 
vniia no Tous en pisjnilrex pis. he* g»iiverneiiieiis ainient 
inieux A tnier la p»u»reto. Ce «oiit U let Impota qui 
pi.-«etiL VoilA done I« secret. J'^oris ilsnt oe moment 
(nnus diwns en AnirlHia: Je suis ^crivant, qni fst ptw 
fort) un petit Tnliime <ur la Politiqae, U laltt'trature et 
Is Momie lie rotro Pays. J'y t*iclie de tous unir plus 
i'trfilt»rnf?nt k nof smiit de la liberty, ili- d^foilpr U i>eur 
oil la faiblesie de no« ennemla communs, de falre con- 

• Aupurtin Thierry, l"r>5-1856. the diitmpoUlied his- 
torian, siillinrof //iVoire dt {a Cttnqvhnif t'AmiUtgrre 
U$Jtormaiui», Ltittrt iiir riJutoirt d4 Franct, &c. 



nattre ces cermes d'esp^r&nee d'oit ronsltrent l 
priiicipeset les belles in&tilutiuns pour lavenir, dan* a 
mot jetaclie de j>«tndre Is Prancn pus telle qo'nn U it- 
pr6tente ni dam let Osxettes, nl dans les livTvs dr l» 
pluptrt de no* voyageiirB, ni dnnn \v* cot«riM, tii dvu la 
clinmbrei. mail avce eette etincelle briilantA dans son 
sciii qui i'dairem encore to monde. Je meU rns t^eau 
en ri'quinilion. .le tous engage k ui'aider de vo« lumi'^r-a; 
TOus \k Teres utilement pfiur la bnnne cause, car du inoiu 
je fmpperai fort, ct si je fniTip« juste eels aura pcut-^tn 
gutl'iuefTRt. Je voudrais bten laVair le bas-relief da tss 

Siartti poiUiqiie*. Pites-moi quatre moU 14,-deasus. 
TuDqu' oil doi« jfl atuqaer la majority de voa liMmtz 
manjusns? QutrlU-sifriit les preuves les plug teUtanMl 
du riD6iienee cnmiptrica sur U part) tainistofittl I Mais 
quel champ ! Entrez-y ! Voui ct Thierrr pmirei voos 
aerrir d« moi pour dire des verity qu'on France Ton m 
peut pas dire. J'ai mil fois renoDcc n la politique, mail 
j'y reTiCDi toujours :— ^m 

" Liberty j^ives life its solo pirfame, H 

And we are deadi?) without U ! " ^B 

Et que ra« dirci-rou", que m'engageriezvoas L dire aur 
letat de la liEterature cbez toqb et lurtout la littf rfttim 
politlqoo 1 Vous pourrtes mo dottner dans deux p*c«i 
an petit tableau des ouTrnses les plai aarqoans qui oni 
paru depuis vinpt ads. Votis ponvci m'aidcr U. »ppr6uer 
justeniflnt l>pi>qtie oil nous sommesen Fraoce. Que dob- 
jcdiro de Rayiiouard,* UvigneJ Bi-rantcer.^ Vionnet'f 
Kt I>upiity,J| Lemercier,^ 4c., doiTent-ils hpurer dans 
mes psfcea ] Loi deux Ck^nier,* * je les ai entre mes mainly 
mai* conTcn<^i que yos rera alezandrioi lont trin lourdL 
Ijes lilt d'lBrm^I auront leur tour. En Toyaffe j'avaU 
une denii-doiiiainn d« pan«^es sur eux que j'auraia dA ■• 
pan otililier.mait c'cii cil fsJC de cellea-tA. Ilfaut [ettj 
entaiiter d'autres. Jc tucberai de philotophiter inon 
hiitoireautnnt que je pourrai. Jo critiqucrai peu lean 
ourrsKSB. Bntre naua ill n'en valenC pas la peine. Hi 
n'ctAtent bens que parceqae tonte autre cboso itaU 
maaTaiie. (^uelqueii (mxiuun* de po^sio ont da n)6riti^ 
mais lie valeiit nulleinent la lux^sio srabe contemponalne. 
Le laugsge de la passion ent toujuura int^resMQi; celat 
qui se dit do la raison (pauvre dtvinit^ I particalieremcnt 
quaod elle parle de la chaire habilluc en pix-tre) dof 
niatiiie, et M orott quelque chote ! EcriTCz-moi bienlAt, 
je TOUS eii prie. La pette ou quelque autre maladie id* 
nie I'entreo dans la Otalogna. Je vais par Ivin k 
Valeneta et puis ii Madrid. Je sous prierai de tuV-orira 
ches M. Adatn Weidmann, k Yitorla. Je suU your's iu 
all honest rierriit and witb jtenutne afTectlon, 

Bowiuvfl 
A Mens. Fauriel, Kue de Seine, No. 65, b, Paris. 

OdSTATB Ma&SOH. { 
Barrow-oa-the-HilL 

* Fraogots Just Maris Raynoaard, 1761-1836. well 
known as a poet and a ic^olar. 

t Cssimir Delari^e, 1793-1843, a lyrio and dranwtie 
poet uf bquiu reputation. 

X Jean I'ierre B^-rsnger, 1730-1357, the fsmoai «&«»■ 
tonnifT. 

§ Jean pons OoiUatinie Viennot, 1777-1868. chte 
k nuwn as n latirlcnl poet. 

II Emmanuel Oupaly, 1775-1851, has written 
amucini; comedies, 

Ti N^pomacens Leinarcier,1771-1840,a prolific wrifc 
Hitt trnicedy Jj^aiinnnoa aud hls comedy JHitto aro 
two bett'knnwn works. • 

•* Andr6 Uhtnirr, 1702-1794, imtnorbiHxed by ^ 
toucbinc ebgv //■» Jtvnt Ca/itire. Marie JoHepli Ch^nilj 
1764-lSll: his principal work ii a history of Fren 
hterature from i;S9 to 1806, 




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Isolated Burials ih GrnRAtTAR. — Besides 
tlie Diiuicroiis solitnry (jruvca which ate to be seeo 
in the AlamWo, of aoWiera and others who died, 
diULDt! the liegea or ppidemics, three ca«ea of 
iBolated fauriaU are particularly noticeable : — 

1. Don Enrico de Guzman, Oonde de Niebia, 
who besieged Uibmltar nbea id posBeasion of the 
Moon in 1436, was drowned during the assnulu 
His Body was reoorered by the Moaleraa, who 
Bxcd it liS n warning over the gate of the Bnrcina, 
where it remained for many yenrsi, until in the 
year 1462 the ChrlitianD, under his aon Dou Juaa 
Manuel de Guxmao, first Duke of Medina Sidonia, 
and the Count da Arcos, captured the fortrws. 
The body of Don Eorico was then removed, with 
great ceremony, from it« elevated position to the 
mosque in the Moorish castle, which had been 
consecrated as a chapel. This building is now a 
powder waf^zine. The cAsquet which contained 
the bones of the count is nientianed iu the in- 
ventory of the stores delivered to Ferdinand and 
Isabella in the year 1S02, when the Dako of 
Medina Sidonia was obliged to surrender the 
fortress to the Crowu. 

2. Col. James, R.A., in his UUiory of ihe 
SiraiU, mentions a^i a curious fact that a geatle- 
Aian, wlio5e name ii not given, was by his own 
desire buried id the foundation of the ruined 
tower at Europa Point. On this account the 
c&Tity in which be was interred was called *' The 
Deadm&D's Hole." The niin referred to no longer 
eziito, u it was entirely destroyed at tho building 
of Eumpa Line wall It is described as being 
built on orohoa, from which circuaigtance it was 
called ** the arched tower." It was supposed to be a 
PhTinician pharos, and had a spiral staircase running 
round the outside from the base to the summit. 

3. General Sir Robert Boyd, who was lieu- 
tonunt-governorduring the great siege, 1779-83,and 
who beoime governor in 1791, which appointment 
he held until bis death on May 13, 17!)4, laid 
in 1773 tho foundation stone of the King's Bastion. 
IDuring the ceremony he cxpreuod a wish that he 
would Uto to tea tho day when the bastion would 
resist the united forces of France and Spain. This 
desire was Kranted, at well as another wish, which 
was that after his death his body might repose in the 
niche which he had led for that purpose whilst 
the work was in progress. A marble tablet in 
the bastion shows where the brave old soldier rests. 
There is also a raoonment to his memory in King's 

IOhapel, which states the place of his burial. 
R. Stewart pATTcaBOtr. 
Bale Creteent, Faraham, Sarrty. 



John Gow, thb Piratr — An extremely in- 
teresting addition to what is known of this notorious 
cbamcter haa just appe.ired in a posthumous work, 
Caitknesx Family fliitimf^ by John Ueuderaon, 
W.S., a former contributor to " K. & Q." In Sir 



Walter Scott's advertisement to tho first edition, in 
December, 18S1. of bin Pirate, it is said that the 
captain of the Revenge, bearing twenty-six guns, 
John Gow, "engaged the affections and received 
the troth-plight of a young lady of somo property." 
The impression is left that she was an Orcadian, and 
the novelist explained that Gow succeeded in his 
suit while at Stromncas, before ho had shown the 
black Hag or visited piratically the neighbouring 
county families. On his trial before the High 
Court of Admiralty, London, h« at first refused to 

Ele.ad, so as to preaerre some property be bad for 
is relations ; but on May 27, 172,'), his oourofSO 
gavo way az sight of the preparations to press 
htm to death, which was the resoarce then of 
En elisb kw on refusal to plead, and he was haoged 
at Kxecution Dock with 8ever.<il of his crew. The 
following paragraph from Scott'a prefaco will serve 
to introauce the latest knowledge of Gow's history: 

" It ii said that the lady whona afTeetionn How hail 
«nKak'c<l> vent up to Londou to ace him bcfur« his daath, 
and that, nrrivlnetoo lats. iho had tho flniiritf;e to requMt 
a eight of bis (lead trady: and then, touching' tht* liandnr 
tlio orirpta, she formally rMnnit^d the troth-fli^lit vrhich 
■ho had bestoweJ. Without avian tbrou^'b thui cere- 
mony, she oonld not, acoorUing to tlie miieratition of tlis 
country, bavo escaped a viiU from the |i(ho«t of her 
departed lover, in the event of her bestowing upon any 
living suitor tlio faith which fthn lisd plighted to tho 
dead. This part of Clio Irgond m«y serve m a curioui 
tfauimentcj^ on the fine douitish batUd which begios, 
' There came a ghost tu JUorgaret's door.* Sco." 

In giving the history of the Gibsons, originally 
an Edinburgh family, &Ir. Uenderson says that 
Alexander Gibson, Dean of Bower and vVattea 
from lf>6B to 1683, had by bis wife Katharine, 
eldest daughter of James Sinclair of Ajisery, a 
fourth ion George, a merchant, who married 
Katharine, daughter of Baillie Rorison, Thurso. 
The Gibsons were afterwards closely related by 
marriage to the Hatter EarU of Caithness. Of 
this lady the newest information in quite of ita own 
kind: — 

" Before her marrisjre to Mr. Qibson, Kktharine 

KorisoD bnd formod in B.ttaGbra«Dt aod eniESfied herself 
to Joliti (iow or Smith, a native of Sombstar, wltose 
pirntioal exploits in the early part of Ust oca'iury sug- 
gested Hir Walter Scott's talo of Tlu FtraU. At whab 
period of <Jow's career (his Love nffiiir took place is mi- 
oertain, bat at nny rale the Btillie disappmred of bis 
dnuithter's choice, and whi)« Gow was abMnt at sea, 
obttKed her to linteo to the addresses of her future hus- 
band, then fchoolniBBter at Stroma. The marria^ had 
sosrcely tskcn place when Gow returned to Tbario, 
bringing bridal dreuet for his betrothed, who, even as 
uiKttars then stood, would gladly have goTieoff with bim. 
Oow departed bJKhly iiiceneod, and after Katharine 
Korison had fetiied down in Stroma, he visited the 
island with tho inti^ntioii of carryintc bor off, or having 
his rorcngc, but ho left again without doiiK any mid* 
chief. She had two sons co .^tr. Oibinn, imd af Lcr Ida 
death resided at or near Banuiikirk, bur nunt, Katlia> 
vine Roriflon, baviriK married I)onkld Williamson, the 
first Williiiunon of Bnoniekirk. These pftriicitlarwn^^ 
given to tho late Dr, I*. B. ttw^tTViwV'^ 'Vwi^.Nav.vij' 



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Sinclair, widow of the ReTorcnd Alexander Pmith.miniB- 
tor of Olrig, w)i» dit-d nL Tliumo, October 15. l&Sl. Bg«d 
eighty-«i^ht. and wbo wiia )(frion!ilIy actiiiainted with 
Katharine Korisou. In a note to f-'^e Piniit, Gow ii 
TOfliit>an«d u havinic bees 5 native nf Qrbnej, hut tliii 
it belived to ba Incorrect. A narratiYn of liis proceed' 
iri|r» will be foubd in Jobnaton't Livtt of Hi^kwatfintn 
mid vimilar chronickt. There are other mtcrctting 

fartlonlara in the notes and advertiaonientB to TKt Pirale. 
n 172A Gow RH'I several or hia AHOoUleH were cotirict«d 
At Iiondon hy the High Court of Admiralty, and dt- 
■erredly executed.'' 

T. 8, 

LoHD CniEF JOSTICB CoCKTlURir AMD MotTS- 

rxvHTJi. — AniODgiit Eaj^lish judges and barristers 
ibere hjii ulwaya been a strong prejudice agaioat 
wearing hair od tbe face, and until within the last 
few years it would have been impossible to find 
A barrister with a rouustacbc, nnd (I believe) do 
EDglisb jadge for some ceoturies biva adopted this 
natural hirsute nppendu^'e. Nodoubt thiscttstoai is 
ft survival of the days when *' the priest all shaven 
Aod shorn " wan the principal lawyer. We know 
the coif of the sarjeantB-nt-law waa designed to 
hide the tonsure. As an illustration of the judicial 
dislike to moustaches, the following observatioDB, 
which I heard at the Sussex assizes about six or 
seven yean since, when tbey were held at Brightciu^ 
may be of iotorest. Lord Chief Justice Cockbani 
said to a witness, "Witness, in conaequence of 
your having a moustache I cunnot hetir distinctly 
what you say. I don't mean to »ay you should 
cut \( off, if yon think it an ornament ; but ic 
presents me from hearing you, and you must, 
llierefore, Hpeak more loudly." It i^ itomewhnt 
singular that the use of the wig is now coD&ned to 
the judges and the bar, having been abandoned 
by ilie rest of society ; possibly, therefore, the 
nrttficial uae of hair on the top of the bejid inny be 
cuosidered to uiuko up for the removal of the 
natural hair from the faoe. 

Frederick E. SAwrsn. 
Brigliton. 

Trb Earliest Vsrsb ik thb Italian Lan- 
ouAoR: AW Italian Opinios op Gothic Auchi- 
TKCinRK. — In restoring the decorations of Ferrara 
Cathedral, McDtoTani has reproduced on the choir 
arch a (rather wretched) verse which was anciently 
Id tlie same position in mosaic, and has been pre- 
served by Borsetti, Frizzi, Qii;idrio, Binso, and 
others iw the earliest verse in the Italian language: 
" II millo cmto trenipla cint^ue naCo 

Pit ijlo omplo a 7,orti CBtcrato 

I'd S'ioolao •eolptorc 

E Qlitlmo fo loauctore." 

It wjis originally a legend hanging from the hand 
of one of the prophets. The cathedral was con- 
secrated in 1136, hut the choir was, I believe, 
added later. Looking for this date in MatTci, 
Vtrona liluttratOf I came upon the following 
panuge, which expresses the contempt for Gothic 



architecture of the lover of the olaaaic in auch im^ 
terms that I think it ia interesting to quote it: — 

" E Tuor di dubbio che il oome di itotica, dato a qtuelU 
catttva ntaniers d* omar g,\i edt&zj snlamente nvlle prva- 
lime olA quando ai comineto a ritucttt^r la buona o anttca, 
non d' altrondc nacnue che dall' oso dt cbiamar con nooie 

barbaro tutto ci/) cli' ^ rox2<> e tnalfatto Non poche 

ji«TC> ion lo fabbriclie in Italia anterlorl a) risornlmcDla 
deir arti, nolle <iiiali nltr^ alia ntruttura, ta iiotvarimo 
levame i sesti acuti dea;Ii arcbl. e I' irrrKoiaritA de' capi- 
telli delle eolonne e degti omanienti, non maDcano 
grandezia e di (raaia." 

R. H. Bos: 



roi- 

the 

Lhe 1 




OxBN AB A MsDitru OF ExcHAXQE. — The fol- 
lowing excerpts, side by aide, give rise to the 
inquiry whether Homer intended to indicate the 
aDiuml or bullion as the medium of exohange in, 
the respective values of Diomed's aod GhMi< 
armoar ; — 

1. " For Diomed's brMi arms, of mean device. 

For which nine oxen paid (a vul^r frica), 
lie gave hie own, of (old divinel; wrouabt 
A hundred betvaa tba shininjcpurchaae o 
Pope's J70si«r, " lliad.'^bk. vL IL 

2. "Cbampollion-Fii^ac, the brother of the famoot 
Champollion, m&kes in hit work on E^pt tbe follnwioff 
obMrvationi: — It is tbe common opinion that Che I>, ^~ 
a coin so called after I>ariui, va« tlic first money t 
introduced into Kgypt. Jt appears tliat. prt>Tioai 
the Persian c{»nque«t, Efcypt employed fur iti inlw 
relations only a oonveotional money, and in its deal] . 
with roreiitnert it paid or received payment in ringa 
gold or lilver of a fixed weight. The muoumenta 
tefltimony of these facts. The contjaered natioiia 
rrprcfontcd paying tribute in rinfts of metal. In oi 
scenM peraoiis are wen weighing rinft, aad f^vin^ t. 
in exchange for other objccta. Alio, it appears tL 
were manes of gold bearinn annther ihape than that 
the ring, for instance, the form of a troff, of a calf, of 
ux, and that it had thus become a custom to reckott^ 
partiouUr object «■ worth £o many ozon, anothar 
worth in manycalres. or to many frog*, meaning tbai 
certain known weights of gold."— i><>«A JimU's Jo\ 
p. 236. 

This last excerpt is from the tniscellanj 
which I referred in a previous communication, i_ 
for the replies to which I have to thank several 
your correspondents. * John J, Stockbw, 

3. Heathfield Road, Mill UiU Tarlr, W. 

A DoctTMEST OF SiR ISAAG NeWTOIT.- 

Abaence of mind in great men is a somewi 
hackneyed theme, but I never met with a mn 
more iltigrant instance than that exhibited in 
warrant, which is now in my posBcssion :— 

iMintAui;. 2" 1729.-, 
S'— Pray pny to D"" John ffrarcis fFiinQuier the tbra 
per cenL dividend iliio at MidauniTiier last u|>od flj 
Thouiund pnvindi iniith tea. ttock in my name; aad j 
receipt sbtll he a eulScient diKbarjri: fmni 

Your bumble Eervont 

IsAAt' Nxwtoir. I 
To tbe Accomptant of tbe South sea Company. ■ 

Beneath is appended the following uote :— 
" This document in a lingular proof of the absanoe < 
great minds, It being dated more than two yesn 



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than liif dchtli, wliich to'^lc pUro Mftroli '20. 17'J7. 1 
hnra rompnrt'l it with siiiiilir ilucutiioiit^. and Touch for 
the KiitlicntiuliT ttf tlic wiiolc warrnnt b«ioK in the buid- 
wrUlnji of Sir Imko Newton.— William ITpcott." 

Frkd. W. Joy, M.A., I'.S.A. 

COIKCIDVSOS: OlCERO AWD WoilDSWOUTIJ. — 

Tbe EDglUh poet's ofleo quoted lines cocceroiDg 
the plan 

" Thikt tl]M« iliould Uke who likTa tlie pow«r. 
And tboie slioold keep wlio cao," 

are par&llelcd with a curioas Biiuilarity of phrase 
in Cicero's Oratio pro P. ik^tio, c. 42: — 

"QuU enim noftniiii, jodice?, iRDOrftt ita nnturam 
reriim tulim«. ut quwiKm t«TnT>or« hnmiliei. nnndum 
nei{<)e natarali neque cirili jure deicriptn. futi per a(*roi 
ko dispeni ngarontar, tantvmi/ut halitrtnt quuitum 
manu ae virilnu per ciedeni &o Tulacra not enptre Mt 
rttintrt jtotuutrnU" 

Defmikl. 
PIjrmouLb, 

ttufrlf^. 

W« miiit re<|ueat correiponJenU deiinni! inrormatioa 
od family msttenor only T>rirst4> interut, to afBi th«ir 
namM and iddrtttei to tlieir queries, in order tlint tbe 
uuven may ba addrefted to them direct. 



Shakspkrian Qurries. — Lope de Vtga : *' Cat- 
Ulvine* y MvnUrts." — Can noy of your readers aive 
the exuct dute when this pluy was first presented 
or piihlished 1 U in wtlh reference to its retatmn 
to Sbnkespeare'a Homto and JulUt tbat I want 
the infortnttlioD. 

Did MarloKe tramlaU Ovid's "Art of iMve" J— 
Douce, in bis lUuitrationi of Shakixpeare, p. 428 
(edit. 183!)), qiiolea from Mttrlowe'H tritDklulion of 
Ovid's Art of Low,— 

»'* For Jore hlmiclf nits In tlia izuro alticB, 
And laughi li^bw at loverfl' |«;rjuries,'' 
nnd says that from these Hnea Shakejpeare pro- 
bably took 

^" At loveri' perjuriM, 
Tbey ny. Jovo Isa^hs." 
Itomeo and JtUitl, 11. ii. &2, OS. 
Did Ohriatopher Marlowe ever trunslnte the three 
books of the Ara Amatoria tin well an the three 
books of the Ainores f I cannot find any mention 
of such a translation among Marlowe'* works. 
Douce is not very accurate a« a rule, but his quo- 
tation must hate been tiiken from *omo trarRlulion. 
tAt ivhai Haur did the Matins Bdl rin^ f— 
" The ntrfev full liatb rantj, ■tw Uirra o'clnck." 
liomto andJuUtt, IV. W. 4. 
Was this the matins bet) ( Tbo Catholic Die- 
iioTiixry (Messrs. Addis and Arnold) cives no in* 
fornjatina as to the precise boar ut whiob matins 
were held. If the regular hour was three o'clock, 
the allusion in the poflsaf^e quoted iJiove would 
probably be to the matint bell, which would be 
the sumo bell as that ns«d for the curfew, and 
hence, porhitpSf the confusion of names. 



Tke VuinertUff of lifutma. — 
" Tbu youii)f scholar, tbat bath besn long lludytait at 
llbciuis." 

Taming of iU Shrnt, U. i. T9-S1. 
In what year wiia tbe Unirenity of ICbcims 
founded ? It wns some time in the nixt^enth 
century. Wby should Shakespeare have selected 
this nnireraity for mention in this posaafte I Wtut 
it. like tbat of Pad im, resorted to by atiidents from 
all parts of- Europe? F. A. Marshall, 

rCiulilvits y ifnnttia U included la the twenty-fifth 
Tftlume of Oil- C'llected work-i of Lopo de Vfp*. This 
Tolume v\w the liuht in l(i47, in 4to. Vol. i. of tbe col- 
lection ii dated 11309. Tbv otiier Tnlume* bear rarious 
datef. It will, we fancy, be ilifficutt to obtjiiri furtber 
in form It ti 01 1 ai ti> date of publication. A complete n<t\- 
lection of tlieae Toliimet i« of siiiitulur rarity. Our corre- 
spondent P. W. C. haa, we believe, mmt, if not all tho 
rnlumef. — Henri II. was Mim^ in Heim« by Cliarlet 
de Lorraine in }&I7. Durtng the rcjoicinsri attcoilant 
on the ceremony Charles de Irf>rminft learned that 
he Wi\s Bppoitited cardinal, Uv started soon after* 
wards f<jr K->)ue to receive hit hat. and also ie en- 
gage tlie Pope in a league against the Empcor. Ho 
brought with htm back from Hrrtnc a l>ull of Paul III., 
a(itli<^rizin£ the I'ltahlii^bnient in Reims of a unt* 
versity, coORtituted afttr tbo fashion of tliat of Purl', 
for the atudy of *■ thiolngte, droit, mcdceinc, ct arts." 
Henri approred of tbe scheme, anil supported it with 
tetteri patent. The Hiirliainent. however, found in 
tbo ball conditions too faruunible to the Church of 
Rc>me, and spent tno years in impoe'mj; nindirioations 
and reilrictiont, after wbicb— assumabty in I.'>4d, tbough 
we fail tu tind mention of tbo exact date — the uo,i?er- 
aity was eatablisbcd. Well supported hy its founder, 
it spraiiff at once into reputation. Antoin^f Poi(rni''r 
was the most distinKuished emoni; its early profeii'iFs. 
8o early ns the tetttli century the '■ 6cfile« de Keim4 " were 
celebrated, and Bchoiars (locked to them from all parti. 
Oerltort. who introduced into Europe the arithmetic of the 
Arabs (algebra i), wa* a nia'tor in the »cli'iols before he was 
appointed bi3ho|i. 9BI. and Pope (Sylvester H. }. ^09. Tbo 
ITfiiTersity nf Reims has ceased to exist, .See " Uuloire 
rVt'iV*- (t /'<fltt'iftu de la V*tU <U Rmm'. par M- Anque- 
til. t'lianoine R6(rulier de la Conicrutcation de France " 
(Reims. ITM), tome ill. pp. 1-1-4 and pauim.— Daaot only 
S4TS that Shakspcare found the phi^ue in Orid'svlW of 
//it/, perlmps in Marlow's (<<(■) trnnslatinn. bk i. Tho 
onlv trntislation «f Ovid kn«wn to haro been undertaken 
by Slarlnw. is that itiTon at the close of Dyce's edition 
as Ovid's Eleyift. It was, as is well known, written tn 
conjuTiclion with John Davis, bears the BiKn "Middte- 
bour»:h." no date (lSi'8), Itimo., and was burned the 
fnllowint; voar at Stilioncrs' Ualt by order "f tbe Arch- 
bishop uf Oauterbury and tbe Uishup of London.] 

Portrait of St. Jkrouk. — I haTs a por- 
trait or picture of St, Jerome, painted on panel, 
2 ft. 2 in. wirfe nnrl 2 ft. H in. binb. The saint 
is seated in his iitudy, and before him, on a table, 
is n <il(i|iin}; desk, on which is an open book 
with claspH. He is habited in a red ({own. with a 
r(>d ciiji on his head, which rests oo bts right band. 
Tbe desk at-ands iiskew, in perspectire, on the left 
band aide of tbe picture, and on the table in front 
of him is n skull, on tbe forehead of wbioh is his 
left hand, with the extended forettwe^e 'iyi\Vi.v\T\'^vc» 



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wirti a abort piec« of taper in it. On fais ri^bt- 
haad side is shown part of tbo reoeaa of a wmdovr 
ID the oh»mber wall, and abore his bead, against 
tbe wall, is fixed a Ter; handsome clock, with the 
weights and counterpoises hanging from it. The 
frame or case of the dock is apparently of Bnely 
chased ^It metal, of Cinc^uecento design ; the hour 
cirole is of white metal, and the inner part of the 
face is briebt red. All the picturea of St. Jerome 
have docks. Near it, on tbe wall behind him, is 
fixed a small bookshelf or case, with three smnll 
Tolaroes witbdosps, one lying on iti side. Below 
this is a tape or band ftutened to the wall which 
holds a small boxwood comb, a pair of scissors, and 
some letters. On none have I found aoy mark to 
indicjU.e tbe artist; but lying on tbo table by the 
desk is a letter which has been opened, and on the 
bock bears this superscription in old German 
charactere, " Dieser Brief an den Heiligen 
HieronymoB," sbowinit it to be intended for a por- 
trait of St. .Teronie. Tbe inscription was once very 
plain; but tbe picture was cleaned about forty-fire 
years ago, and the cleaner, not reading or under- 
standing the German writing, ban thought to restore 
it by inserting some small black murks which hare 
greatly defaced the original, and 8o spoiled the 
inscription, but any one couTersant with German 
writing cnn still make it oat. The picture is 
beautifully and minutely painted and id good 
order, and ts a very good work; and though I do 
not like to iningine an artist or date, it must be of 
about 1500. U is in a bkck wood (I think ebony) 
frame, with a narrow carved gilt moulding or 
border within. I cannot take it down, as it is a 
fixture in a panel, where I placed it forty years 
ago. I have seen pictures somewhat similar — one 
used to bang on the staircase of the old Ashmolean 
Museum when I was nt Oxford in the year 1824; 
and I have heard of one in a private collection, 
respecting which I had some interesting communt- 
catiun with Mr. Albert Ilartshorno in the course 
of hist year. My impression is (hat I bare seen 
other similar pictures, though I have no notes of 
them. I shonid like to know if these portraits of 
St. Jerome are rare or common among old pictures 
on pinel, and who may be likely to be tbe artist 
of mine, if any of your readers can say. I have 
known the picture all my life, and believe it to 
have been the property of my great-grandfather, 
Mr. King Gould, who was Deputy Jutige Advo* 
cate in the time of George IL, and lived at Ealing, 
where he hod an esUte. It wm given to me by 
my fiither, some fifty years ago, because he thought 
that, having a large skuU in it, it wiui an iiifty pi<-- 
ture to hang in » room, and would euit me, b«ing 
fond of curious old ihiugs. 

OCTAVIDS MOROAI*. 
The Priani, Newport, Monmouth. 

Oret of Wilton. — The garter plnte of Lord 
Ore/ of WUtoo, dated 15&7, offert a very re- 



markable instance of quarterings; and as I bare 
never seen any criticism of their arrangement, I 
hope I may be allowed to call attention to them. 
The shield contains ten quarterings — six in chief 
and four in base — and as the brass of the plat« ia 
[iinny places shows through tbe enamel, it is Dot 
always certain if the metal be or or argent. Tli~ 
quarterings appeared to me to be as follows:^] 
fiarry of six arg. and azure (Grey). 2. Or, Uu 
crescents gules, each charged with a plate (Loc 
champ of Wilton). 3. Lozengy or and | 
(Rokeley). 4. Barry of six arg. and uor 
chief a label of many points pules (Grey of " 
ton). 5, Or, three chevrona gules (? de Clare). 
Gutes, three linns rampant arg., crowned or (Da 3 
Vaccbe). 7. Gules, a lion rampunt \Tithin a ba 
dure engrailed or (? Talbot). 8. Barry of i" 
and azure, in chief three torteaux (Grey of I 
and Grohy). 9. yoarterly, 1 and 4, Or, a i 
gules (HoHting^); 2 and 3, Barry nrg. and 
an orle of martlets gules (Valence). 10. Ar;^,,] 
maunch aible, in chief a mullet gules for dif~ 
ence (Hastings). Of these I can account for 
prooenco of Nos. 2, 3, fi, G, i\ and 10 (presnmi 
that Nob. 9 and 10 are borne for Lord Qrej 
mother, Florence, daughter and coheir of 
Ralph Hastings, third brother of William, 
Lord Haittngs), bat I cannot explain the ordov j 
which they occar. 

Reginald de Grey (died 1308) married MsH 
daughter and heir of Witliam Lord) Fitx Hag 
by Hawys, his wife, daughter and heir of Elagh i 
Longchump, and she was, as I believe, heir of ' 
n>olher only. This fact might account for 
omission of the arms of Fitz Hugh, which 
naturally precede Longcbamp. Henry, the | 
son of this marriage, married Anne, daughter i 
heir of Ralph Rokeley, and Elizabetb, daugbt 
and (I presume from tbo introduction of the 
ditferencod coat of Clare) heir of Williiim de 
Thus it is poasible to account for the presence 
Nos. 3 and b; but how cin their separation by j 
coat of Grey, with its label fl'sltnctive of the hoi 
of Wilton, be explained ? No. 6 is brought is 
the marriage of Reginald de Grey, who died 14 
with Biitnche, daughter and coheir of Sir Phil 
de lu Vacche, K.G. No. 7 might be a qua 
brought in by De la Vaccbe, but tbe coat npp 
to he identical with that of Talbot; and it is ] 
markable that 7 sod 8 (only tranHptwcd B and \ 
were rightfully borne by John Grey, VisooQi 
rinjp, who wiLi of « totally different brunch of 
family of Grey. 

I venture to think that in some ins 
qn:irierings were mvd to ahow the desoent 
lands, and not excln^fively of blond; but ia th 
initmnco I have not been nble to discover thot 
Grey of Wilton held any of the lauds which 
formerly belonged to the Orej5, Vi»count» VI 
so that I am completely baffled oo all sides in i 



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attempt to explain the <^aartertD[FS on the ^tec 
plat« uf Lord Qrey of Wilton, K.G. I hope Boue 
of your correspondeDta may be able nod wiUio); lo 
enlighten me. Eduuho M. Butle. 

Rboistsr or LtcKXtAVPsTKho. — The parish 
register of Leckhntnp)it«iad, Buckn, oatiLioii many 
curious entrion, of tiintorical iiiterest, made by a. 
former iiicuuihvnt. Amoog lliese ia a list of rectors 
of tbe pnri&h, in which occurs the name of "John 
Wycliffe," the reformer, from 1371 to 1375, with 
the followinjf note:— 

"1371. Rirv* John* Wicklimu^ (obiit Dec. 31. 13S4) 
institutuf Jobanoo BikrnK'j'^tu Oiocemno, oti&m R' de 
Ijuttervorth cnm Leicpntrrtini^ et Dii>c«*i LtiicolnienBi 
7"" Bic* 2*. N.B. Ha mu«bl ft^atait M»m, kc. Tenets 
of t]i« PkpiatH, bre.! at Oxoti, and drew iDftoy pflraon* of 
note after hiiu. V. UoirflllB Med. Hut. A wf., S'", p. 102."" 
It would be interesting to know whether tbio entry 
is correct, and recordit w fact not hitherto known 
in Wycliffe'a history. The Linculn Episoop*! 
Registera hiiTe be«n conaulted, but they do not 
contain any aach inatitution. Too much, however^ 
must not be drawn from tbia omission, for neither 
ia WyoUffe'a institation to Lutterworth, which is 
a certain historical f»ct, foiiod in them. The only 
entries bevin;; on Wycliffe'a history as a pariah 
priest ar« — (I) his institution to the rectory of 
Filliogham, Lincolnshire, May 14, 1361 ; (2) his ex- 
cbaa|[e of FilLinfthiitu for Ludj/f^rahjill, Buok^, with 
John WttbomwyV, Nov. 12, 1368; (3) the institu- 
tion of John Moorbouae to Lutterworth, *' raciiot 
by the death of John Wycliffe on tbe last day of 
December, 13&4," May 14, 13bd. 

EuuuND Yenadlks. 

R&sTAQUOMERE.— In Mias Braddon's Phantom 
Fortunt, vol. iii. p. 1 1*>, occurs the followiog sen- 
tence : — 

"He was the typical rutaqnanere, a mui of finialicd 
mannera and anknown aiitcceilenta, a faroigner. appn- 
rentlj rich, obTtousIy noconipltibt^], l>ut with that un<le- 
fioabteair wbicb baipeuks the adventurer, aud wbicb giYtn 
ftC'Ciety ss fbir a v&rning as if the man woro a placard on 
bi« ilioaldcr wttb tbo word Cavt.'"'' 

What L« the derivution and pedi|;rrce of the word 
Tostaqiumtrtf E. Lkatox BbESKtusoPi'. 

OoRKR. — The predecessor of Grcntrakes, accord- 
inj! to Southeyi in curiog the kint;'« evil by touch. 
Where can I find on account of him ? 

C. A. Wakd. 

HaTcntoe^ HilL 

Hkraldic. — I shall bo much oblif^d to nny 
one who will kindly tell me to whom these ami.n 
beloDi;: Ar^ni, lUrev ravens aa., each holding in 
iti biU a alip of laurel. 

W. F. Marsh Jaccsox. 

St. PACL'sCATnuDKAL. — In a chap-book pub- 
lished for Samuel Keble nt the Turk's Huu'l iu 

rieat Street, LynddO, 16t)a, iUuatrated with 



" cuta^" nod having as frontispiece a view of the 
interior of St. Paul's, communion table, &e., I 
Hod in the lost page of tbe catalogue of books 
published by S. K^'ble, "Three PoeniB of SL Paul's 
Crtthedral, viz., 'The Ruins,' 'The Rebuilding,' 
* Tbe Cboire.'" What ia known of these poems 
or of their author } Tbe book itself ia entitled 
TIu Holy Datfi ; or, th« Holy FmtU and Foiii 
at they were ohsirvtd in the Chutrh of England 
{throHffhoiU the Tear) ErpUined, &c., with cuts 
before each day. W. FitA7.KK, F.ELC.8.L 

AccEPTEn Fbrwkk.— Thii divine was Arch- 
hinhop of York, \Gt'A) to 1664, and wiw buried in 
Yurk Minster. I bhould be very much obliged if 
some cocreapoTident fmm that city would give me 
a copy of the in^icription on his tomb, and also 
Hencribe tbe coats of arms thereon. Drake's 
Eboramm describes tbe tomb and mention) the 
fucb of there being arms on itj bat does not give 
them. C. MooE. 

Ghmiby. 

Atkinbok. — To the pedigree of .Sympson of 
Ryton, recorded by Dugdale in his Visitation of 
Yorkihirc, 1665-6 (Surtees SocietyX William 

Sympaon is stated to have married , daughter 

of Atkinson, and widow of Mason, of 

Welbam. I shall be thankful for information 
coucerning this family of Atkinnon. 

W. F. Marsh Jaorsov. 

Royal Marriaok with a Slave. — There U n 
story told in some old chronicle of a certain royal 
person who purchased in a slave market in Ks< 
thooia & aUve girl, whom he afterwards married, and 
from whom, if I mistake not» our own royal race 
and all those wfau inherit Plunlogenet blood are 
descended. Can any of your readers tell me where 
in hiatory or legend I can find an account of tbia } 

AVOK. 

King Arthur. — Will some one expUio tho 
meaning of pi*iwv» (shield), ron (lance), Calibum 
(tniBtye sword) T Henry IT. gave this sword, with 
the " blayde alle of oleipit, and the hiUe of prc- 
tiouH atone." to the King of Sicily. Are there two 
traditions? Edward Malam. 

William or Worcester.— Can any one explain 
tbe expression in William of Worcester " com a 
yense neekly "? It occurs in William of Worcea- 
ter'a description of Mount's Bay. He usually 
writes in Latin, but in the context of thin paisago 
expresses himself in English. AUo, what ia " froe 
Ih eetre " ? W. 8. L. S. 

pRENcn Family or Pcrshork, Worcestrr- 
suiRK. — This f-tmily bod on their shields in early 
times a lion rampant. In or berore the sixteenth 
century the Scotch Eurls of Miircb had alto a Hon 
rampant for their aruii. Could the lwfoc#,-TOftx^- 



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NOTES AKD QUERIES. 



(6^8. X.Jui.r&.'SI.I 



or Tlioniydytea, Merse, Benriclrehin* 1 If to, were 
the earlier nrm» of llie Frenclip« of Tfiornydykes a 
lion rainp!»nl ' Tlipy recptved cUarterH from the 
K:irln of Maivli, luit pnblis^lieJ recorJn aliow tbiit 
their iirmn wore three boar«' heads. Their nei|{h- 
botira the Gonlnna liuJ aUo three boars' heads on 
their arnip, nnd up to nSoiit the middle of the 
se^eoteenth cootarv the Thomydyke district wor* 
shipped at the Gordon chvircb. Toformntion 
desired. A. D. W. P. 

Autograph Lhttf.rs and ITirtort.— A cattt- 
lo^ie of nntocraphs ofctn includos oxtnicts from 
nnpubliuhrd lctu>n, which buve some interest ns 
materitilii for history, but which often jiei buried 
in private collections. Is aoythinjt known of thft 
fact!* fjiven in the following; extract frani the Kile 
cutaloKue of mito^rapb letters aold in Aaria on 
May 31, 1884)- 

"63. Angleterre. Pi*co lur Tfilin retntire ao roynge 
«n Anitleterre do Luuii Mnniiol, valet dc chainbrd 
onliDiiire du roi, od il Mt allu porter ' n Ik Ko^Da da 
diet paia ti\ somiuo de ]B,0(Xf livrs* uuc In ro; lui devoit 
pour certaine <;r>Tnpn«ltion qii*il ft falct av^c elltt pour 
rmUuQ do la deni'n ra |["*n-o d'Econt.* 18 Soptrtubre, 
IMO, InS obi. EcorDee." 

E8T£. 

AuTHrtRsnip OF TItmns. — 0.»Q you, through 
your coluiuDS, help me to find the nuthorahip of 
the hymns mentioned helonr I I ehitll be very 
H,\ad if Tou c.in: — " H.irk ! 'lis the watchman's 
cry"'; " Father,, heiir the prayer we offer"; "The 
fieldK are all while"; *' Little children, wnke and 
liBleu"; " Unhenrd the detva around me fall"; 
"Thy way is in the deep, O Lord"; *'The twi- 
light falli, the night is ne.-xr"; '^ O, what can little 
hands dof" (Fabiu ?). W, Oaiirktt HoitsKa. 

Enolisii Namiw for FLowBns and Shrlls. 
— Qin any of your readers tell me the I^nj;li»h of 
the followiiiij iiiiipa : La Solitnire, L*Oripnt:ile, 
L<i Veuve, Le Dmp d'Or. and L'AKUthe ? doduf 
the followiair shells : Le Loopiird, La Fhime, and 
La Musiquef AH IheHO Diimcs arc to be found in 
La Bruyire'a Caratttres^ Hk»ri va» Laun. 

Collections rrlatinq to Giants and 
Dwarfs. — Where can I initpect the collection of 
old and scarce handbilla, ndrcrtLf>eii]CDti>, eo^rnv- 
tnjpi, &C., relating to the abwre sal^ject formed by 
the late Jtjhn Bullock, £<sq., uf Ialio|:tou uad 
SflTcnoaksT The lata Mr. Edward J. Wood 
fttateii, in the preface to his work on giants .ind 
dwarfs, that he was much nidefl by the late Mr. 
BuKock's collection iu compiling his work. 

J. a D, 

Uapan (ScRyAUK), — Wanted instances of 
Rabnn used as a snmniue, or any inrormation con- 
cemlog the name. The Scotch and French printers 
of that name are known to nie. 

J. P. Edmond. 

6^1 Bod Accord Street, Aberdeen. 



Brplfftf. 

ROCOCO. 
(l«»S.i. 321,350; ii.27fi; Tii.627: 4''' S. ir. 158, 

241; vi. 234 ; 6* S. ix. 100, 271, 376, 436 ) 

It is not erery word which ends in o that 
has the look of an ItJiIi.in wonl or is of ItiUiaa 
origin, and I am surprised to find Sin J. A. 
Pic-ros and Mr, Ward, nod still mora so Mias 
BcsE, whn pmftrase-H to be, and no doubt is, familiar 
with both Italian and French, declarloj! the word, 
on the mere strength of its appearance, to be o( 
Italian origin. Will they kindly point out to me 
an Italian word with the btstKylL-ible reduplicated! 
I iiliiu am familiar with Ilali.tn and French, muI 
nm Id tile hiibit of reading, opeakint;, and writing 
both of tlieui, yet to me the word boa ulwan 
appeared what it really ii— a French aUog word ; 
but this is, perhaps, because I am coQTemDt with 
the numerous devicca to which French (PanaiaaJ 
alang reeorts in order to obtain forms which may 
be droll, expressire, and slip k^'^'^J <*"^ ">^ tongae. 
I am of opinion, therefnre, that Ltttr^ is aniu 
right in derivin); rococo from rceailU, and I think 
it if) vvTj bold of the two gcntlvmen and of the 
lady above named, oopecially in the caae of 
French word, to set up their judgment ia 
sitinn to that of Littrt^ who wiu not only a 
disliu^tiiisbed etymologist and a man of very seal 
tense, but mu^tt have seen the word start up oi 
bis very eyes.* 

Now, nne of the devices of French slunj; is tA 
cut ofl* either part, or. perhnps more frequenlly, tb< 
whole of the last syllable of a word. Thus we find 
dtlige= dWifience, cAam^} = ehampa(;nc, cig^dipxlt 
( = a SO-franc piMe), tUlam torn. =^ dc-luaaemeDtc 
coiniques,t nux^a «: matjidor (^faJBeurd'emKirna), 
mi^^*) ^m^lodrarae,«</o=T6loce (— po8lilloD),aj/pA^ 
jiephyr (=rcnt). Sometimes two or more syllnhlea 
are cut off, as in d'aiUor tt [f'ae/inr=rd'autogtiS tt 
avcc acharnement, comomin (or contom.me')^:^cta^ 
snmmation, rti(a--ratHtouille, Wac^^r&iclionoaire.I 
Com p. our ca6^=cabriolet, and 300= zoological 
(gardens). 

Another device is to cut olT the last syllable, h 
befiiro (but often only part of it), and to put another 
ending— usually a shorter, and always a fancy one 
— in its place. This operation may be refpirded IB 
another light, and looked upon simply as lfa« 
exchange of one ending for another, and this b 




• Rrgaud {pid. iVArtfot) siyt. " Tcrmo employ* par 
les artistes neintrea de It^H" knd th<i word really do* 
not teem tu b« older llinn this. 

■^ .Strictly apMikintc, no dmibt comir/ue \t a word fX 
three ■ylUblet. like <vmit<rur, fT'itn wliich it ts detifcJ. 
l>ut it il, of course, aiually pronounced u n word ut* two 
syllables. 

X Nearly all the abbrevinteJ «UnK formn in ihii note 
nill l»« found in ibo Fr>!noli (or I'artiiao) alimg dU- 
tioaaries of Xiarcbey and Ri]{aud. 



C"-3. X.Jcit5.'84.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



11 



p 



the Frencli view of tie miitlcr, for ihey cull it 
*' cliaD^etneot <)e lliwil^." Now, one of theso funcy 
eti(]iDi!it bappeuB to )>e o, anil thns it in th:il lo 
sliing French wosouietimea hnve words eodin;; in d, 
iinil 00 fur reatmblioK Italiim, Thu«, from ibe 
old French Tcrb rigoUr (;=:rire, se dtTertir}, or 
from the substantive n'jo/piir, we hf»?o the adjec- 
tive rijo/o (with the fancy ending o)=dr61e, 
amiisuDt, luiich wore Italisn-looliiDK than r&cvco, 
and yet liaving really notbiof* Italian about it ; 
and from this, by a lecond chnnge of the last 
syllable, has been farmed rigolbochty with the sumo 
lucnnintf. Similarly, iert^t-nt becomes urgo; in- 
validf., invalo ; critiit. crido ; eamarade, eamaro; 
gctrni, gamo ;* mtndiant, mendigo.f Sometimes 
a rc<liipticnted word is the result^ as mili-m^lo (a 
curiuiid medley or jumble) from miUt;X and this 
word is so often beard in familiar conreniatian 
that it will bo found in LitlrtS, and not in the 
slaoK diotionuries. Upon this principle romitU 
would give U9 ro«o, and with the last syllable re- 
dapltcated, rococo.'^ Comp. lolo=lixit, formed 
upon exactly the same principle. 

1 had loni; come to the conclusion that Che word 
rococo bad been made up in this way, and I am 
glad to see my view confirmed by Larchey in his 
ninth edition, for there he says, s,v„ " Le rococo 
est le genre rooailU exagi^r^. De Ih ce chan){e- 
ment de finale redouble." The word ia now ttl.>»n 
uaed simply ofwhul is antiquated aud old-fafibioued 
(siirann^, demorl^]. 

I need scarcely say, therefore, that I cannot 
nccept the derivation from roeailU and r(>7»i7/« 
advocated in a note (4*'' S. ir. 241) bo hi},!hly 
sp'.ken of by 0. M. I. (6"" S. ix. 376). In the 
first place, wordn made up out of bits of two or 
more other words are exceedingly rare, aUhough I 
myself have given more than one instance (4^ S, 
xi. 461). In the second place, it would be iro- 
powible to Ret rococo out of rocnille and coqttilU 
unless rorailh were treated as I havo treated it 
above. And, lastly, I biive shown, I hope, that 
coqnilU is not wanted at all, and thiit rocaitU alone 
soflices. F. CaAVQt. 

>^7dcDliftm Hill. 

P.S. — T am (jlad to call attention here to French 

• For this chanso of ending into o we may compirs 
foch forro* a4 FraiiCo-fJtrvntn, Tttrvo-Rnttiitn, ic, 
wliorff tliQ endint; of titf; flrat niljectiTo U tiiroed into so 
0. which metiis notliinj;. eimply for the mIco cf fupbooy. 

J Here lh>? hncj eiiLliii^ i» tfo ftnd not n. (to is ahn 
«voiiritfl irniling, and somctiioes it is aubstituteil fur 
tbe lh»t •yllsMc, ss here, or for pkrt of it, aa in I'll'ttiio'-^^ 
W l)iK, wiiilrt at otiien it ia simply adtkd to tlic word, 
u in ic.y<i=ici, inw—ls. Otli«r fancy cuditu:* aro t. 
iM,len.i<in.ucl.t,fintt.,mar, mucA/, mines, luekt, biehe, 
(■• in ri7.i>Ar=clKKrett«K 

X Probatily M'Vo was formed flnt and m^fi added, but 
it may l>e tbe utU«r way, 

§ It i« more cotomon to Sad the last sylUblc cat off 
ami tbe i)r«t redupUcutftd^oi to .vii:oii=i»)uav«, Lo%tw= 

IfOBil. 



slang, for some knowledge of it ia now qnite in- 
dispensable to those who read French novels. 



SlOKATURtCa TO THB SoLSHX LtAOCB JUID 

Covenant (6* S. ix. 370, 3ftU, 414. 457, 476).— 
A copy of the S^olcmn Leucue and Covenant with 
the fligaatures of the parishioners of Edgelt, dated 
1C43, is preserved in the New College Library, 
Edinburgh. As no description of these ducumenta 
has been given by nny of your corr^fipondents, 
perhaps I may be alli)wed briefly to describe this 
copy, which in all probability is similar to those 
sent to the various puriahes throughout Scotland 
at that period. Tbe title is: — 

" A Solemn LesKue And Cor^nnot, For Reformation : 
Aril) l>er«Tice of Religion, the Honour and IIa|ip\ufiM of 
th« Kiiijr. anJ the Peace &: Safetie *'f tlio Tlireo Kine- 
doEiis. Uf HcDlUnd, Rnifland. & lnilftn<l. far. 50. Tk 
V*oy. 'i:> 5, "i Oliroa. 15. 16, [CiaoteiJ Ediuburgb, 
Priiilod by Evan Tyler, li;l3." 

Small 4to., A, four leaves; B, three leaves; followed 
by seven leaves for the siguatures. The title is 
followed by Orders of tbe Assembly, &c., anent 
subscribing the Covenant, on seven pages ; then 
" A Solerane League and Covenant," six psges. 
The paper for signatures is printed, at the top of 
each page, ** Tbe Sabscribers of tbe j League ami 
Covemint,'' I may mention that a fragment, pro* 
bably unique, of an edition printed by Edward 
Rubna at Aberbeeu in 1643, corresponds exactly 
to the Edinburgh copy. Both are noticed in my 
Abtrdetn Printer*, pp. 74-5. J. P. Kouosb. 
Aberdeen. 

First subscribed by the king (James VL, after- 
wards James L of England) and his household, 
IA80, thereafter by noblemen, barons, burgesaec, 
and others of all ranks, 1&8I-Kj!}i> and 1G3S. 
Many other copies wero signed for some yenrs 
aftertYords by the different presbyteries and 
parishes in Scotland, one of which I now possess, 
signed, but it has ftdlen aside. This original 
natioriul ducummt of 1580 is now In the Advo- 
cates' Library, Kdinburgh. A beautifully executed 
facsimile, in gold nnd cnloiim, 40 by 33 inches, 
may be Lid at Stillie's, Kdinbui^h, for ICi. 6d., 
with descriptive accounts, &c., in quarto. TUo 
.Solemn League and Covenant was greatly revived 
in 1712. A curious accident happened to one of 
the original copie?. It, was given to a bookbinder 
(Banks) to clean; ho unfortunately apopRed out 
tho names, tbcy iiaviog been signed with bIr>od, 
as many were. J- S. 

Many of these are presorred la the Ubniry of 
the Houpo of Lordii, and in one of the Jifporh 
of tk« Hiitoriml ManM$cripti Communion psrti- 
cularaof tbe lists for several Koglifh parishes will 
be found. Frbderick E. SAwyKn, 

[In Miss BrsKS reply on this aubiact (,a'>» SAv, «i\S 
the date \Wl^ \\\w^\\^\H!il-^.\ 



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KOTES AND QUERIES. i«*8.x.Jn.T5,'8i. 



CoLBRiDOKs "Rkkoube" (6" S. ix. 466X 
— Yoar correspondent Cdtbdbrt Bkdh is in 
error in aUting tbnt undwled, in the sense of 
cleared from dust, " is u new coinaae-" Dr. John- 
eon gives the word as beinji naed by W. Moun- 
tngue (1654) in his Devorit Essays : 'M^Tien we 
frequently dress up the altar of our beurtd, and 
■unJiMt it from all these little foulncMea." John- 
eon adds: "This is a more proper word than to 
dti9l in the present meaniag.'' The formation of 
the word is strictly aceoTdiDg to role, one nieaniDg 
of the verb to dmt beinj^ lo sprinkle with Htist, 
See JobosoD, tinder the word, and his rofcronce to 
S SiiDi. xvi. 13 (margin), *' Shimei dutted him with 

dust." WaLTXR B. KutGSFOKO. 

Lincoln's Idd. 

Whftt CuTBBKRT Beds says about widatUd 
3i correct — that the writer means the reverse, thut 
the play had been duiUd; but for nil that it is 
formed on the same principle oh unearlked, la 
the one case the play has been taken out of its 
earth, and in the other tak^n out of its dust. Be- 
sides, we tiklk iu £n|;lish of boning a hare or a lej; 
of nmtton, iind we mean that we have unbotud it, 
So thnt I think we had better Itsvo the niceties 
of Encliah in the chaos dearly beloved by the 
national mind. 0. A. Ward. 

PcsiBS TOR R1NO8 (2>»i S. IT. 118, lOG, 429; v. 
405 ; 4** S. ii. 368 ; iii. 56 ; t. 341 ; B'*- 3. ix. 348, 
4IS).^The subjoined list of posies is token from 
FennelPs Antiquarian ChronicU and Literary 
Advertiser, June, 1882, p, 1 Si- 
Happy in tUeo liatli God made mv, (1677.) 
In thco nijr cbc.ico £ *1I e're rigojpce. (1679.) 
In min<l t>iou[;K not in r^igtit. (16S0.} 
JAy heart U niwn thid |>lGdg« dotb shew, 
A. work in Heaven pcrfonu'J below. (ISSi.) 
God aboto preitervfl our love. (1684.) 
OoJ above increase our love (1085.) 
n«Art« content cannot repent. jMaj, 1GS3.) 
Thy virtuoui life made tlirc my wife. (UlJ.) 
OpdV provi.lenco is our inhoritanM. (1711.) 
Ilreuk not thy tow to pleftun thini" eye, 
Continue constant till we die. (17'iO.) 
God's intont none can prevent. (1722.) 
In coDitancy I will live and die. (1725,) 

Alpha. 

" lONORANCB Ifl Tire MOTHER OF DBVOTION " 

(6*^ S. ix. 32f), 476).— Mr. Bdtlkr writes for an 
earlier notice of this phrase. The history of its 
use, BO f(tr as I know, is as followA. Dr. Cule 
made use of it in the />i.i^>u(atton uAth Ou Papists 
at IVtftmiutttr on March 31, 1559, and Hi.>.hop 
Jewel, describing this in a letter to Peter Martyr 
on April B, states respecting the saying:— 

*' Noil aiiini d<ibiti«it Kraviter et serio monere, etlamii 
alia I'Uiniii msxime convnirenl, lonien non exjicdirr, ut 
pOiulus, i)'tid in MLcri^ n/nt'ir. inteh^t, ixioirautla 
eniin, iut)uit, luuler e*x, verte |iietntw, mum ill* u|>p«U 
lavit devutifnom."— Jcwol's lJ'or*» (Farker Socioty), 
vol. ill. pt. ii. p. 12u2. 



In his Controversy tnth Dr, CoU Jewel r«fen to 
this as follows: — 

" For I bellevs he rJuttinian^ had never be«rd t^ 
that isnorance shcnld be the cauir of true demotion, u 
v« boMty ikTouch<-d in the di«putation at Westtninatcr 
in tbe lioariri); and won<.lering of the most part of tbe 
honnursblo and worshipful of thu readm.'* — Jhid,, vd. L 
p. 57. 

Binhop Burnet notices the phrase from .TeweVs 
letter (77ts(. of Rtf., pt. iil bk. vi. collect. Nol 49). 
Burton, in Tfu Anatomy of ife/oncAoIy, allodei 
to it in this way: — 

" And ttie beat means they have to broach it firat aail 
to maintain it afterwards is to keepe thrra itill in timar* 
anoe: for lfni'>ranc« ii the motlier of dcvvtinn. as all 
the world knows and theM times can amply widieia."— 
A naL of Mtl. pt. iii. § i, m«mb. 1, cubs. 2, p. 5«3^. Loa " 
1<34, fol. 

Ed. MaBsaAi.1; 

The following lines from the New 
I. i. ,a morality printed in lEi73, will carry 
the use of the phrase nearly a hundrvd yea 
*' Tbftt wbicbo ever hath ban a moat trewo and I 
opiuiun. 
And defended also hitherto by all of our roli^on, 
That I /ijfi&ranet am the mother vf irvt tlrvotion. 
And Know)«d^ the aactour of the contrary offisctio 
Tb«y dcnie it so stootcly as tbougbe it were not 99,** 

Despite Thomas Vincent's imthority, I nm. 
opinion that the origin of the phrase ia 
" Popish," but pagan. H. ScncRRKHJ 

68, Umb'i Conduit Street. W.C- 

Knowing Fisk (6"> S. ix. 466).— The me 
m%dierum h referred to bete. It is a subject 1 
calculated for full discassion in "N. & Q." 
much nonsense bos fa«cn written about it in fo 
times by grave and learned persons, that it it 
nigh impossible to convince people that tbe ' 
duta mMlitrum wits' morely a fine paid by 
vassal to the lord for the loss of the womi 
services, and that customs of succession. 
Borough Knulish, bad no relation lo the »npn 
fact that a wife's 6rat child was of doubtful pat, 
nity. Mr. Elton, who is one of the greatest Itvi 
authorities on ancient customs, has shown that] 
aiVQS DO credit to the impure story (Orif/int 
English Hiitory, p. 87). Sir Williiun Hhickafc 
bad come to tbe coot^lunion thut there waa 
truth in it bo far na England was concernod, 
betieved that the evil practice was once foUon 
in Scotland {CvmniMtaries, sixteenth edit 
vol ii. p. 83). Mr. Cosmo Innes, the very lear 
Scottish legal antiquary, said, " I have not looli 
dtrefully into tbe Frencfa authorilies, but I tli 
therp is no evidence of a ctintorn so odious e^tistil 
in Enk'Und ; and ia Sotlnnd I venture to 
that lUvTn in Di>Lhiu){ to ground a suspicion of l. 
a rij^hl* {Lteturet on iSrotcfc Legal Antiquit\ 
p. 53) 

By far the best and roost Pibau^tive accnimt] 
this horrible fable, vhich has done so much 



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TTork in the hands of poeifl, artists, Mitirist«, norel- 
writers, and inaccurate hiatoriunx, U, I believe, a 
book by Dr. Karl Schmidt, entitled Jui Prima 
Noctis. I have, I ccKret to Bay, never bad an 
opportanity of seeing it. It was rerieved by Mr. 
W. £. A. AxoD in the Aeademjf of Al&rch 25, 
1882. I gather from this DoCice that the author 
proves that this nupposed caatom never had any 
real exiateoce. 

A little consideration as to what manaer of men 
the people of the Middle Ages were should, one 
would have thought, have convinced any ooe that 
the story is impossible. The Church waa far too 
powerful to have permittedauch n breach of the very 
foundation of monil order to have fjone unrcbuked. 
Had such a ri^ht ever existed, a hundred local 
oouDoils would have fulminated censures against 
those who presumed to exercine it 

EDwaRD Peacock. 
Bettesford Stanor, BrigiE. 

Bsifi : HiPAc: Oalph (R* S- ix. 469).— The 
following quotations from Ford's Handbook for 
Spain may be of some assistance to Mr. Lacaita 
in determioinK the origin of two of the words about 
which be inquires: — 

"[Between Bonda snd Gibraltar] we pMa Mooriah 
vitUges, built on heiKbti, with Moortah names nod bhlf- 
Moorish pwiautry, e./f., Ataji-ate. Uertaoabs, BcDadalid, 
Ban Alauria. These settlements of £«ti=chilJrei>. 
mark the Itolating love of tribe which the Amhs 
brognht with them from the Eoit, Jmplantinfi on a oew 
and congeaial tell the wealtnen of the nomsde r^ce of 
Jihmsol, whote band ii against every man and a^tainrt 
whom erery hand is raited. THeet aoKmalgninattDg JUni. 
however, united againit the Freocli. who found in auoh 
robbers more than their inatch."— P. '2rf7. 

Catpt.—*' The rock rOibrtltar] was well inown to the 
ancietita, bat nover inhabitt-d, nor is there any mention 
of any town on it. The Pbceiiiciaoi called it Aiube, 
Thie the Greeks corrupted into Kff\«/3ir KoAti?, Calpt, 
and then, defying nkture ni audaciously as etymology, 
tbey iutiil it eijtnified a 'bucket.' to which shape Uipy 
compared the rock. Caipe hai been interpreted Ca- 
aipe, tlie cavern of God. and as Cal-b«, the watchiog at 
nitjlit. Col, Coll. (Jain la, faowcTcr, a common prefix 
to Iberian aimI Oriental terme of heights ond forlre^n. 
AyaU deriref t'nlpt frotn the Hebrew and the Phanieian 
iJalfiKpCalph. K carred m->unta!n. Catpt waa the Euro- 
pean, and ^Ma' the lofty' (the rock of Abel) the Afri- 
can pillar of Herculra, the m ylut iJtra land and sea 
marks of jealoui Phrenician momipoly."— P. 27J, 

Jii/ac is not mentioned by Ford, bat the word is, 

I of course, like U» others, of Moorish oriKio. 
E. Simpsoit-Baikie. 
tUx. C. A. Wabd supplies the lame iaformBtion.] 
Pnoow or Litkrart Famb {Q**> S. ix. 467).— 
Nfodem fic'ton haa coutributed hut ftiw common 
Douns, adjectives, or verbs totheBni(liith language, 
And it is curiouH to not* the sources whence these 
come. Thus, Gullivcr'a 'I'raceU futnishea three 
words, brcbdiH'jinvjian. liUi(nUianf and yahoo; 
but from the whole of J5bukeai>earo wo get only 



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one, bentdid ; while from Scott* I oan recall oo 
example. Other instances from English litemtare 
are braggadocio, tuphuutic, lotluino, wtopwm, 
Cervantes gives us dulcinta and roximtnU as welt 
as quixotic; and to the list may be added ckau- 
t^intsni, knicJurrhockert, and rocfiraiontac^ lb might 
be considerably extended by examples from Grevk 
and Latin writers. Hss an exhaustive list ever 
been attempted of the English words derived from 
the proper names of real Ufe 7 I believe I ooold 
give upwards of three hnndred, from mauioUum 
and laeonie to boycott and mayenia. The terms 
introduced to meet the deroands of science form an 
interesting group. Such are farad, o^tttd, o/irn^ 
rcvnifr, roll, tceoer. P. J. Andbrsox. 

Bowdler gave to the world an edition of Shake- 
speare^s pUys, "in which nothing is added to tho 
original text, but those words and expreesions ore 
omitted which cannot with propriety be read olond * 
in a family." When words, &c,, are now eliminated 
from a book, the work is sHid to he ** Bowd- 
lerized." Henrt G. Hopk. 

Frcegrore Boad, N, 

KHEDrva(6"' 3. ix.449).-Mr. Edward Thomas, 
F.R.S. (in a paper on "Parthian and ludo-Sas- 
saniaa Coins," printed in J.R.A.1S., If.S., vol. xv., 
pt. 1), thinks the word Khedfv or IChidt^v is found 
in the Persiao Khudi, God, king, and the Pehlvi 
forms Hu/ef, Hu^i, which be derives from the 
Zend qa-ddta, Saosk. twa-datta, self-given, self- 
created. It always struck me that the name God, 
or rather one of its oldest forms, Guthn, was con- 
nected with both the Persian Khudjl, Khodii, and 
the title Khedive. I was contiru^ed in this on 
comparing Gutbu and the Gotho-Teutouic words 
Got, Gott, Godt, Kot, Gett, Gitt, Gut, Gud, 
Giidzf, and Gudszf, with the Tartar and other 
Oriental languages. In twelve Tartar dialeots I 
found the word for Qod under seven dttlerent 
forms, viz., Khudai, Khodii, Khutiti, Kui^i, Kut, 
Kutkbai, KutkhJi ; in three Caucisinn dialects, 
Khudai, T7.itu-KbutRav, Khutsau, Klitzau; in the 
Kurdish Khudi ; and in the language of tho Bucbari, 
Khudo. 

Mr. Thomas adds that the title Khid^^v ts com- 
mon in the Shdh Ndmah^ and, ia its lodiao appli- 
cation, he finds Badnonf meotioniDg the Sultila 
Bahlol Lodi, A.D. 1-J51, B. S. Cqarkoce. 

Khfdfv U a Persian word, and siguifies a king, 
a great prince, a sovereign, as KhidiV l Hind, 
King of lodio. Tbv designation was bestowed by 
imperial flrniao in IStHJ. ft conferred no additional 
power. The hereditary vice-royul;y wus guurunteed 
to the descendants of Mebemat Ali by the 6ve 
great powers. R. W. 

Tnu Tkrminatiok "o*" (6" S. ix. 42fl). — 
This termination of place-oamea will be foand 



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principaTly, if not «xcluiively, in those porta of 
EoeliiDil colon ixftl by the Dune*. In the Dane- 
litt*!], Dor(h-pai!t uf the aaoieut \VaLlm({ Street^ it 
aboiiDds, hat the «pcllioif in T.irious, hof^ oe, o, and 
in the nurlh of Ki]),{hiQd how. lo Jiodford^hire, 
within a circle of a fev miles, we Bad Sils*o«, 
Cain-hoe, Fald-o. In Bucks we hnve Mouli-oe 
and Ivxni^-hop, &c. Id Norfolk we bare Uowt; in 
Lincolnshire, HoMgh oo the bill ; in Sussex, liooe; 
in Weslmoreland, Haw and Fox's Bow. In nil 
thefie ciseH an emiuence, generally conipiimLtTely 
aliKbt, is iQdic»tt*d. The ori^in.iI is dimbtleas the 
Diimsfa hoi, a. bill. There is another Danish te^ 
minalion >>. nn ishind, which is liable to be cod* 
foundtrd with oe, but tho En^^lish in this relation 
ha« adopted the older Norse term ey for its cotu- 
|*ound!', as Selivfjr, Wallas-esr, &c., very common 
tn all the Daninh aettlenients. J. A. PiCTuN. 
SandjrkDDwe, Warertree. 

pRRSTPiR John's Atiws (C"* S. ix, 470).— In 
the liooht nnd Registtr of Armft, done fry Sir 
iMrid Lind^Mif of On Mo\tnf, Lyong King-of- 
Arvu, a^yn. Ja. V. (which seems to have been 
emblazoned about the year 154S, and is still pre- 
wrved in the library of the Fuctiky of Advocates, 
£dinhtiri>h), (he second coot of arms depicted is 
thrtt nf ''The Rycht potent prince preiat Jbone, 
Emperour off the ^xti\t Yiide." It may V>e thus 
blazoned : Or, on ii piission cross azure, rising out 
of n mount yert, and between two acouTjics pale- 
ways of the second cords outwards jfules, the deiid 
body of our Saviour proper, nimbt-d of tho field 
nnd wrenEbcd about th(i loins with a cloth argent 
shadowed of tho second ; on Ilis head the crown 
of liinrn?, the biood flowinji Iherefrora, nnd also 
from the wound in the dexter side, and from the 
bands and feet which are pierced with the nulls, 
alt proper ; on the upper limb of the cross the 
scroll of the fifth, lettered I. N. R. I., snble. 
The particular form of cross known ns the Cross 
of tho Pusiiion was, Giiillitii tells us, *' bestowed on 
each as hud performed, or at leitat undertukea, 
some service for Christ ami Christian profession ; 
and therefore, beinj; duly ctrnferred, 1 hold it the 
most honourable chorge to be found in heraldry." 
P. J. Andersok. 

Aberdeen. 

SoMB Obsolete Words, Aa. (6^ S. ix. 405, 
ViH).~ liomvm^inyt. — Ma. Wxnn i« mistaken in 
■uppoiiin^ that this is not a nautical term. The 
Ntw World of Kiojlish Wordt, IttSH, hiw, "To 
Rumidge, in Navij;alion, is tn remove goods or 
lugEnKe out of a ship's howld. whence it ia alan 
nsed upon other occasion?." The edition by J. 
Kersey, 172l>, Rives; — 

"Toyiiimwrtj;* (Sia-Term). to rimoro any Goods or 
Lutci;ng« from oat Plnco to luiotlicr: especially to clear 
the Shifi's Holil uf any Goodf. or Ladinc, in order to 
their being baadsotuely itoived and jtUiccd : Whence the 






' Word is used upon other Occasions, for to Bake tolo, m 

totcarcli narronlr." 

Cf. also the following p&siAge from Uaklm^f^t 
Voyagft, vol. i. p. 308: — 

" Aad that tliemDiteri of the ships do looke wal t« 
the rtymagiiuj, for they ruicht brtn)t nwiiy a itrvat deali 
more than the; doe, if iLcy would take imine in tin 

There can be little doubt that this word is oM- 
nect«d with room, A.. 3. ntm, space, t da not at 
all see why we should derive the word from Fr- 
remiMr; nin\uii/e is not given by Ctttfjrave. 

F. C. BiBKUKCK Tkrrt. 

Cardiff. 

Itommaginge.—The full derivation of thla word 
ia from the French remuer, mmnge. It la bo used 
several times in letters of the Hon. Mrs. BcMcawe* 
at tho end of the hut century, «-g., writing in 17S7, 
in contemplation of changing her house, she saya, 
** Then the trouble of the rttinimenage^ or r 
mage, to ooe so inactive, fait fremir." 

G. Lkviuon OovtkcJ 

nfa. HiHRT n Kits states that the word U not obaoltii 
In Devonshire, but ia in common ui« in litsnwn housiholiL 
" A rummaKirig lot " is Mid of a family with no inanag** 
meat. " I 'm l)urninjj ii]i tke ruinuinpe " — ^rardcn UUer 
^Mvs tho gnrdcDer, in sniwer to the iiufrscion, 
are yoa doing I "J 

RroNAL Years <R"' S. ir. 468).— Chatlai 
regnal yewra, by a legal fiction, date from the i__, 
cution of his father, not from hia own restonitil)__ 
See Sir Harris Nicolas, ChronoUtgy of HUtor^f 
p. 331. Edwakd P«ac 

Ikttciferd Manor, Brigg. 

*'KsiGnTorToooKNBURo"(B'''S. ix. 407, 
—The book of ballads lo which Mr. CarmichiJ 
refers was, I believe, origioally published by Mr. 
James Burns. I think that it bus pulsed through 
but one edition. If that be the Ciise, the copy 
which I possess must be one of a remtuDdor with 
a new title-page. It runa thui : *' Gfrm«»i HaUads, 
Sonijt, (fcc, comprising Translations from Schiller, 
Uhlund, Burger, Goethe, Korner, Becker, Fouqui, 
Cbamtsso, iS:a London, Edward Luniley." It 
has DO date. My impression is that I piircbiu«d 
it in Tjumley's shop about thirty years ago; bat of 
this I am not quite certain. 

ElDWARD PrACOC 

Bottotford >Ianor, Brigg. 

Lamb and Mikt Sadce (fi"* S. ix. 4-lS).— " 
Though unable to say when the cnstom of Lnkini; 
mint sfuicc was first started, or whether tlierw in 
any authority for the origin of the cnstom in the 
statement quoted from John Brady, Ctavit 
Calendaria, respecting its introduction by tj» 
monks, the latter part of the extract is obviously 
incorrect. The Jews had long before ceased to 
partake of tho piisohal lauib, in obedience to the 
Pentateuchal laws which prohibited this and aU 



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otbcr sacrifioH away from the place ohosea for tlie 
natioDul altnr. The killing of the paicbal Umb 
ceiwcd with the destructioa of the Temple. It 
neces&arily follows that the ttatement in cjaesLioD 
19 inuccumte, A. D. 

Dbticc ok back or Picn-niii (6** S. ix. 409).— 
I think the two bonds ikbovo a castle are the arou 
of the city of Aotwerp. Anon. 

Ekqlish Judicial CosrimE (6**" 8. ii, 4fi4).— 
la it not the case that ia the Crown Court a jadge, 
iuat before cbargiog the grand jury, wears a white 
tippet and white gloves 1 I think, if my memory 
is correct, I noticed Mr. Justice Deniuan wore 
them ; hut aft«r the charf^e was finished he left the 
court nod returned without them. M.A.Oxon. 

TnoRi'K, SnaRET (e"* S. ix. 468).— The farm of 
Almoers Bttrns, OhertAey, was purchased in 182S 
by Mr. George Catherow, and the Wapshott family, 
who hod then held it for many (generation!*, were, 
it WMsaid very unfairly, expelled (see Timf* news- 
paper, August I, 1828). In Bniyley and Britton's 
Surrey, it. 244, it is stnted there w«re documents 
to show that the SVnpshottn had held this farm 
upwards of lire centuries, and that ** there was a 
reportf though upon very questionable grounds, 
that they had held the estate from the time of 
Alfred,* In Cox's Magna Britannia, 1730, 
V. 358, the farm of Ampaer'a Burner, "given, as 
the name seems to imply, in alms, full of corn to 
the poor," is mentioned as being of the yearly 
value of loot; but when the Orown property at 
Chertaey was held by the Duke of York the rent 
waa raised to 3G(>L a year, which was then deemed 
very exorbitant, Edward Sollt. 

A notice of the Wapshott family, and at thoir 
long ownership of lands at Aliuncrs ^ot Amhras) 
E:urnK. will be found in Mr. E. Walford's Holy- 
day» in Borne Conntici, at p. 209. under the title 
of " An Autunui Day ab Cbertsey.'' 

Mcs RcsTicus. 
[Bas also 6t>>S.ix. 503.] 

Bkrwrr's "Phrase asd Fablte" (<S^ S. ix. 
449). — ^Tbe three romances are in the " Rommant 
fiiit et compote a la perpetuation do inemoire des 
rertueux btiz et gesies de plusieurs nobles et 
excellena cbeaalien qui furent au temps du 
tre^noble et puissant roy Artns compaignons de 
la Table Koode," first printed in 2 voU. folio, one 
lit Bouen by Jehan le Bourgois, the other at Part^ 
by Jehan dn Pre, 14SS. The first part, La QuetU 
del Sttinl Grtial, wa^ edited for the Boxburgbo 
Club in 1864, by Mr. Purnivall, from two MSS. in 
the British Mnseuiii. Lanutnt and La Mort U 
Hoi Arln make the other part. The above and 
other MS3. ascribe the work to \Vnlter Mop 
(Chaplain lo Henry II. of England), and this is 
geoendly allowed. 



Graesse, Tritor de Lirrtt Haren et PrMinir.. at 
" Lancelot du Lac," mentions the Linziiot of IHriQ 
von ^ozikboven, written in verse about the be- 
ginning of the thirteenth century, edited by K. A 
Hahn, KrankTurt, 1S15. This was, he says, token 
from a lost Proveni^d romance by Arnsud Baatet^ 
and he seems to think this romance waa used by 
the author of the Table Konds. The three romances, 
preceded by the HUnt Graal history and Merlin^ 
were abridged by Sir Thomas Maleore and pub- 
lished by Caxlon. 

M. Patiliu Paris, in hla catalogue of the MSS. 
of the Bibl. du Hoi, L 16S, points out that 
the Saini Graal was the work of an ecclesiastio 
and a Litiniit, and below quotes from it, " Eosl 

fu li rois Luces crcsticnn^i quar mes<iire Robers 

de Boron qui oeste ystore truuslata dc latin en 
fran^ois s'i accorde bien, et la vieHe ystore s'i 
accorde bien ausi." He concludes that M'tp wrotn 
in Latin both thta and tbe prologue and conclud- 
ing parts of lAincdoL Aftrlin, except the be- 
ginning, he thinks was not Map's work, nnd the 
Qtiette, written btcr by IHUe de Borron, itmms 
only to continue the Latin work of Walter Map 
{P- 174). 

The history of the Saint Graal (or of Joseph of 
Arimatbte) was edited for the Hoxburghe CItib by 
Mr. Fornivull, together with Lonelieh's EogHshing 
of it (about 14^0), and the Eu;!lisb work is being 
separately republished by the Eirly English Text 
I Society, which has at»o published other Arthur 
romances that are not translations. 

P. ZlLLWOOD RODHO. 

Date of Phrase (6* S. ix. 309}.— It is asked 
if the expression poor for dead obtains in any Ian- 
guage Imtdes our own ; but I shontd be inclined 
to ask in what European kngungo it does not 
obtain. In French you can hardly say anything 
but "Ma pnuvre nit're "; "Ma mfcre regrett6e,'' 
perhapn. but that wouM he more heathenish 
still. " Feu ma m^re " might be allowable, but is 
obeoletc. In German some may SKy " Melno 
eelige Matter," certainly; but "Mtiine anno 
Mutter" is much more common. In Spanish, 
again, "La pobre de mi madre" is the accept«d 
phrase. Feroan Caballero makes some of her 
characters add *' en gloria csIlV but I doobt if it 
would be oommonly said. In Italian, "L'antma 
[>eata di niia madre," &r., is sometimes said, but 
'*Mla |H>vera niadre," is the prevailing idiom. The 
mode of alluding to a defunct Pope has a peculiar 
fonii ; it is always *' La sacra memorla di Pio IX.," 
or whoever it may be, which is said to have done 
this or that. R. H. Bnsc 

Hjebrkw Laxouarb (e"> S. ix. 448).— In the 
Talmud precise rulefl are laid down with regard 
to the separation of words. These are to the 
following effect. The distance between, letun 
must adtnvl of tk ^itwe ^jcva-t i^Vawt^ -ssiyCvaiJirs 



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betw«en them. Tbo diHUmcc Wtvreon wonls must 
be equal to the space which & letter would occupv. 
The division of Kentences i^ regulate hjthef^eMinioA 
and the peUitha, The ulumah (Kignif^ing close) 
is a space of three letters at least between two 
words written upon the same line. The peturha 
(sidnifjing open) is the whole Temainioi; space of 
a lioe left bUnk, nod the following word com- 
mencioK upon the next line. Thoso regalations 
are rigidly ndhercd to by Hebrew scribes ia pro- 
duinDg M3. copies of the Law aod Scriptures. To 
tMign & definite period to these traditional laws 
is itnposaible. We find them fossilized and 
deposited in those het«ro(;cneoas strata of ancient 
lore the Talmud, without clue or index to their 
origin. 

Hespectinc; the fire final letters, there is an 
opinion ta the Talmud that these, as Bnal letters, 
are of the same antiquity as the other characters, 
but they do not appear to have been used to 
ezpresiithe hundreds beyond 400 until recent times. 
The Hebrew letters ore used throufjhout the 
Talmud and Midniahatc works, not only as 
numerals in the ordinary iten9«, but as a means 
of giving the words of the Hehrew Scriptures a 
mystical and often a very beautiful meaning. 

A. D. 

TovB OF Thackerat's Parrots (6** S. ii. 
446, 491). — W« shall, I fear, only get out of one set 
of inaccuracies into another if the mistakes into 
which Mr. Bbnhau and F. St. J. T. have fallen 
be not speedily corrected. Mr. Benhau ia in 
error, fim^ in giving the number of the children 
of Dr. Thackeray, Head Ma«ter of Harrow, as 
nineteen, instead of sixteen. William Makepoice, 
of Uadley, the erandfatfaer of the noveliHt, was 
the head master's sixteenth and youngest child, 
u may bo seen in the Pedigree of Thackiray which 
I have already cited. Tho second error in Mr. 
Bknhah'b reply is the assertion that Mr. Crick. 
Public Orator at Cambridge, was a first cousin of 
the novelist. The tme state of the case is that 
Frederick Thackeray, M.D., of Emmanuel College, 
Qimbridge, a first oousin of Richmond Thackeray, 
the novelist's father, married, as bit second wife, 
Mary, daughter of Rev. Thomas Crick, of Little 
Thurlow and sister of the President of St. John's, 
who was also Public Orator. I may odd, on the 
authority of Gradnnti Cantahrigiensta and the 
University Calendar, that there never was a Public 
Orator at Ctimbridge named " W. M. Crick." This 
is another error. It was the Rev. Thomas Crick, 
B.D., of St. John's, who was both PrcHident of 
tbat society —^ an office answering to the Vice- 
Huter at Trinity — and Public Orator. Dr. 
Frederick Thackeray, I am informed in a letter 
from the Rev. H. Russell, Fellowof St. John's, kindly 
encl^ised to me by tho Master of St. John's, lived 
in a bouse belonging to that Society, on the cant 
side of St. Andrew*!) Street, near Emmanuel Lune, 



now occupied by Mr. Lucas, F. St. J. T. maka 
Richmond Thackeray, the novelist's falber, memi 
instead of fifth son of William, of Hadley. He hM 
thus passed over three sons of William, inter- 
mediate between William, the oldest, and Bieh- 
mond, viz., Webb, Thomas, and SL John, who, it 
is true, died unmarried, but who do not for tbsi 
raMODMem todeeerve to be enued from the fim^ 
geoeiloeir. The William Mnkepetoo TbMlwnf 
of the Cbestcr inacription given by Mn. Fitz- 
PATRicK was second son of Thomas Thackeray, 
surgeon in Cambridj^, who was elder brother of 
William, of Hadley, and whose represeatAtive ii 
tho present head of the family. The sabject of 
the inscription was therefore a first cousin of 
Richmond Thackeray, the novelist's father. The 
Rev. Etias Thackeray, of Dundalk, was next 
younger brother of William, of Chester, and 
both were king's scholars at Eton. Ma. Bkxham 
writes the name of the cradle of the noTeliat*i 
stock " Hampthwaite." For this we should read 
Unmpsthwaite. Three niemWrs of the family 
held the oAice of parish clerk there during the 
seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. 

The author of the Pedigree of ThaeJuray, whose 
information was strangely fragmentary oa tbe 
maternal side of tho novelist's ancestry, brought 
together a good many scattered notices of Tariou 
Yorkshire Thackerays, under highly d ivenified 
forma of orthography, from the fourteenth oeatusy 
down to the date of bis publication. Since that 
time I have no doubt that fresh instances han 
come to the surface, though they are awaiting ool- 
lection in an acoessible form. I happen myself to 
have noticed the occurrence of some of tiis 
Thackerays of Exllby in the first volume of the 
publicationa of tbo North Hiding Record Society. 
I do not think that any connected scheme of 
descent could as yet be made out for the 
Tbackerays of Hampstbwaite beyond the point 
to which "J. G. N," carried it, somewhat tentA* 
lively, in his Pedigrtiof Thackeray. But a York- 
shire society mi^bt be inclined lo try anil add 
something to the imperfect knowledge which wo 
at present possess of the descent of their illuatrioos 
countryman, William Makepeace Thackeray, 

C. H. E. OabmicbakuI 
Now Univeritty Club, S.W. 

In Mr. Bkmham'b commanicatioD, " W. iL 
Crick," p. 4J>2, I. 3. should be *'Rev. T. Criok." 
May the folluwinf; anecdote, connectod with hii 
election in 1836, be added ? A rival candidaU 
was culled upon by the "^ods" in tfao SeaiM 
House for a song. The answer was, " Mr. — 
canoot sing, be basa criok in his neck." It should 

be (itated that Mr. u«ed to airry bLi 

rather peculiarly. P. J. F. Gantilloi 

Balloos (6"* S. ii. 486).— Why should lE_ 
: word be derived from " Balton, a famous danctog 




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master in the HTroteeoth ceDlury " 1 The first 
use of the word id £nt{lish boa reference to the 
KQue cftlled " balloon-ball," to which there nro 
vnriona reforencca in onr eulv dramatic literature. 
Tbas JD Eattwnrd Eo, nuuu 5y Gw. Chapman, 
Ben, Jonaon, loh. Afaritow, 1605, Str Petroncl 
says to Gercrade (I. i.): '*Tjuth I wiui so enter- 
tained in the progress with one Count Epemounif 
u WeUU knight ; we hud h mittch At baJioon, too, 
with my Lord ^ybacbuul for four crowns." To 
this Gertmde anawers: "At baboon f Jesu ! yoa 
and t will play at baboon in the country, knight," 
Sir Petronel: " 0, sweet lady ! 'tis a strong play 
with the arra." T. Heywood iilludes to the game 
in bis The Fonre Prentiw of London, 1615 :— 

" Eustace. All thAt ia nothing, T can toise him tbui. 
Grr. I tliiu : 'tis r&»ipr Hport then the Balocnu." 
Vol. a. p. i:04, lleywoiKl'a ** Dramatic Works." 
J. Peanon's repriat, 1S74. 

Minshen's Did^ 1817, hast " BaUont, a winde- 
bali to play wilball J. BtxlUUu (txballa, i.pila):* 

tF. 0. B[RKBECK TbRRT. 
Cardiff. 
Of course the deriration of this word from 
"£aZ/oR,& Gunons dancing waster in the sevcn- 
teeoib oentuiy," is an idle fabricntion, which the 
Tima afaoald not have repeated. It is false on 
the face of it, becanite it in oo solution of the pro- 
blem; for it does not tell ushow the dancing mnater 
came by the name himself. It is well known that 
the votda which aro really due to names of men 
areoompar&tiTely few; whiUt, on the olber band, 
the gnessiog etymologist uMially reJiorts to the 
au^gection of sQcb a derivation when he knows 
not what else to say. It is the hat poor shift of 
a man who pretends to explain what he cannot 
otherwise solve. Of course the word haJloon is 
far older than the seventeenth century. In Florio's 
Ji^ti. Ditt, ed. 1508, we already find the entry, 
*' Ballone, a great ball, a ballone (to play at with 
bnieei), a footeball." CJotgrave has, " Balhn, a 
fardel or small pack," and in fact it was at first 

• nsed in French as a diminutive of haU, which is 
after all a mere doublet of hail. Godefroy gives 
It qi)otatioD for hallon^ dated 148fi, in this sente 
of ' small bale." Litlrd h&s a quotation for it in 
the sense of *' balloon " in the sixteenth century. 
The sense of " great boll " was probably borrowed 
from Italian, for it is a singiilur fact that the Ital. 
Buffix -o»« is augmentative, whilst the F. -on is 
properly dlminntive. I would suggest that an 
ordinary irresponsible newspaper is a very poor 
guide io questions of etymology, wherein at least 
eome sniall degree of accuracy is required. 

Waltbr W. Skbat. 



Where the Timt» got spch non^euRo from as 
its " famous dancing master in the seventeenth 
century " I do not know; but, seeing that the word 
occnTS in Ronsard's poems of the previous century, 



and that pallont in Italian is n skin full of wind, 
we need hardly gueaa much about the origin. In 
Noel and Carpentier's DicL EiymoL it is properly 
said to be, in the sense quoted, slang of tlie Dpe^^,1 
" il y a du ballon dons sa dunse "; and in Lorraine * 
Littn.^ says that it is a term for the rounded sum* 
mite of a mountain. The figure is obvious in both 
instances. 0. A. WAfia 

159. fltTentook Bill. 

EcupsES OF THE Sxsv (e'* S. ix, 300, 439, 496). 
— In accordance with Dr. NiCRoLsoN'e request, 
I have referred to L'A rl d« Virijitr lea Data for 
eolipseii of the sun between the years A.n. ir>l>t 
and 1595. A partial eclipse of the sun was visible 
in Europe on July 20, 15dl. This was observed by 
Tycho Urahe. A total eclipse of the sun occurred 
on May 30, 1593. This was total in northern 
Africa and son tl]- western Asia, but was only visible 
u a partial eclipse in Europe. Kepler states that 
at Verbal (Dessau) two digits (amounting to about 
one-sixth part of the sun's diameter) were observed 
to bo eclipsed. 

The only other eclipse of the ran risible in 
Europe within the dates mentioned by Dr. Br. 
Nicholson occurred on October 3, 1595 ; but I 
presutue this is excluded from his coosIderatloD, as 
taking place in the autumn, not in the summer. 

W. T. Lysk. 



Ihvibted CnEVROK (6*^ S. ix. 387, 478). — 
Perhaps what I will now put on paper may satisfy 
any readers of " N. & Q." who are interested abont 
the "inverted chevron." 

Guitlim, ed. 1724, p. 43, gives one thus, Axure, 
a cbevroQ reversed or ; hut not as an English 
cont. He quotes it from Baron, Ari Heraldiqutj 
p. 47. The name is Balet. 

Colombiere {Scitnoe Heroiqite, p. 134) gives 
"Chontxin en Allemagne, de gueulea au chevroa 
reoveraS d'argenL" He engraves it on p. 135. 

Sibmacher {Wappenhuch, vol. i. p. 38) gives 
this coat with this name, Chootzin ; but at 
vol. iii. p. 21, reneate it with an identical quarter- 
ing second and tnird, and gives the name Conoin. 

Spener {Insignium TtUoria, Para Sptcialis, 
pp. 101. 102) refers to the li''appfnbudi,, and gives 
the name Concini. He says that tbo Italian and 
Austrian families are one. He cayf, p. 102; " Ex 
eadem gente fuit Oonciniis Cnncini, qui sub Mare- 
scalli Ancrftii nomine iu Gall:;l cluruit, et Dux et 
Par FriiDcia? creatus, tragico lauien exitu periit" 
This was tbo famous Mar^chal d'Ancre, killed, 
'* sur le pont-levis dn Iiouvre, le 24 Avrll de I'on 
1617." 

Fr. Silv, Petra Sancta,in his Teamrtr Oenlilifue, 
p. 153, has this, speaking of chevrons: "Est 
uliquando etiam inversus, et in imam scuti 
regionem ousptdatns. Cujusmodi Qipreolum 
cyanenm, in aurei panculi. Q«)bAtl.vv ^rMsS. \^ 
GaUil" 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



te*a,x.jin.TS,Wrl 



Gtnanni, VAHt <Ul Blasont in Verutia, 

ITfiA, al p. 279 saja : *' Laderchi io FaeDzn, porta 
in foodo rosao un Cftpriolo gomellato e riTersiito 
d'aroento." 

Niabet. SytUm of ITgraldry, vol. i., "Of the 
chereron," says : '*A chcTeron reversed U said when 
its point U towards the base. Azure, a chereron 
reversed argeat, by the name ofRamor.** 

I know only two Enf^Hsh cxaiurtlefl. Ooe ia 
Newport, in Moniaout,Mhire, if Newport will 
Bubinit to be misnamed En(;li-sb. Thi^ towncarrien 
a chevron reversed — that b, with the i>eak to tlie 
boae. The other came before me when I was looktaf; 
over the evidences of a friend of ancient familj in 
Yorkthire. It was on a sea.1 to a deed, but the 
Boal made on the uauiil Ubcl of parchment had 
been dctuchcd from the deed to which it had be- 
longed. I can, therefore, give no date. The seal 
abows a chevron reveraod, and in precise middle 
chief a f1eur<de>Iy!^ Outside the shield, on each 
Aide of it, is a bird wtth a long neck. This is the 
only example beaideiS Newport known to me. 

». P. 

Statrl'a Lodge, Malvern Welb. 

The book-plnte of "Robert 'Espioasae of the 
Toner Temple" exhibits this uncommon charge. 
The armn nn it are, Vert, on a feas g}i\es iiic) three 
bezuita, between in chief an inverted chevron or 
eaclosint; a beztot, and ia boae a fleur-de-lis be- 
tween two circular batons couped and erected of 
the third, an annulet for difTerence. 

Edmosd M. Botle. 

A chevron inverted (chevron rmvertf) is coca- 
finnnlly met with in foreif^ heraldry; and, though 
more rarely, it is also found isnuinu from ono of 
the flinka of tho escntchoon. The former is borne 
alune, or with other charges, by Von Ohontzin, 
KnmlinKen, Hiit(;arini, Trauner, Prevost, &o. ; the 
litter by Marachalok, Duohtel, &c. Contre- 
chevronni^ with chevrons inverted, I have seen 
aereral timet. J, Woodward, 

JUoDtroae, 

Ak OiK Trke akd its Costmts (6** S ijt. 
468)l — You do not appear as yet to bnve had any 
C'}mmeut upon the statemenl that an old oik tree, 
blown down in a genllemaa'a park in Derbyshire, 
was sawn qp last year, and in a hole, bored to the 
centre of the tree and plu(;^ed np, wore found human 
hair and some p^irinf^j of fioccr-Duils. I think I 
can throw some li(;;ht on them. A few sammera 
ajfo I wna takin;; temporary duty in a amall 
country district a few tniles from Winchester. I 
luode acqiiftintance with the villaze schoolini^nter, 
who had long been nfllioted with a^e. Beinj^ 
popular with his children and their parents, he 
received from many of the latter remedies declared 
to be infallible for bis obstinate complaint. Some 
of iheM, as specimens of local superstition, be 
mentioned to me. One of the most grote9(itie was 



the advice that he sbonid, with a ceremony wbidi 
I do not remember, insert some of the paring* af 
bis finger-naili In the hole of a tree. I think 
but of this I am not sure, with the nail-i 
were to be enclosed some locks of bia hair. 

W. G. HuHPaBT..] 

*' T«bOld Esolish Draka " (S^-S. ir. 489).- 
am only going now to guess, and pretend do An-ivtr 
to Dr. Br. Nicholsok. It is ju«t possible that "Oh. 
Baldwin, Land.," ia Wm. Godwin, who in IHIO 
published FahUn, by Edward Baldwio, and tb^ 
were written by himself. 0. A. Wabd.^ 

liaveritock nlll. 

PrrER Jackson : Phixip Jacksow (6* S. til 
429; Tiii. 57, 98, 292, 43.3; ir. 116, 195).— 
Musgrave's obilimry (Add. MS. fi733) aaya, ** Sir 
Philip Jackson, Knt, Director of the Bank, died 
Nov. 21, 1724"; and again, "Sir Philip Jackson, 
Knt., of Hert^fordahire, died April ti, 1731." The 
laat-named appears to have been baptized at 8L 
Dionis Bockchurch June 3, 16SJ, son of Mr. 
Edward Jackson, and, if so, would be nephew to 
the first-named Sir Philip. It therefore aeenu. 
to be an open qaestion aa to whom the ports 
" extant at Coombs Place " represent, vit, 
Philip tho first or Sir PbtHp the second, and i 
sequently which of the Ladies Jackson their 
apective wives. Great coofualoD appears to 
prevailed in the announcements conccmiofc 
aevenU Ladies Jackson. No record of Sir Peb 
death occurs in tbe obituary ; but on Feb. 
1732, " Lady .Taoe " Jackson is said to have di« 
This, in fact, I believe really refers to ^fa^y, ft| 
widow, because Charles and Elizabeth Fleetwo 
do not seem to have hod a daughter " Jane") 
marry tho ttco^id Sir Philip ; and, having air 
erroneously described the widow of the firet 
Philip, tbe niaf^inea follow up that error by 
describing tbe widow of Sir Peter. Any fiu 
response in reference to Jacksons bearing *' tfa 
cinquefoila on a chevron between aa many eagb 
heads erased," wonld oblige your present oont 
hutor. Jamks STKKa.i 

Resitroam {&^ S. ix. 485).— We know fr 
FuUer'a Church JlUlory, bk. x., that Bishop Joh 
Ktn^, who died in 1G21, desired in bis will ti 
" nothing should ho written on his pliiin Rrar** 
stone EAve only ' Resurgam/ " and this, from Duf- 
dule's Biitory of SL Faul't Cnikedral, appears to 
have been done. But beside this there was a long 
mural inscription to his memory, tbe rooet pro* 
minent phnuM of which was " Mttriiior loi^ujut 
SpirHt RL'Nurgaui.' Granger, in hia biograjifiunl 
HUtory, under the article " King," after raentioa* 
iug tbe old anecdote about Wren, adds: "I con- 
jecture this wua part of the atone under which 
Bishop King was buried; and my conjecture is tbt 
more probable as this word occurs in no other 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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I epitaph in Dagdalfi.** H. Tbotuaa, in Anciml 
[ Jfrrmtini of London, i. 398, idts, in rerereoce to 
' this legend : " Jt is remarkable that this wor<i 
rtturgitm waa cnt on the moDum«ot of Bishop 
KtD>r, who preached before Jamefl I. to solicit the 
repairs of the ancient cathedral ; it mi|;ht have 
be«n bin tombstone." U is hard!/ probable now 
that any more precUo informatioD can be obtained. 
It the fttory in true, it is quite possible that the 
stone in question was one of the two inicribed to 
Diahop KinK i but m ibe word was common 
oa tou)bstonefl| it ma/ bare been a fragment of 
some other monumental stone. 

Edwaud Sollt. 
Sutton, Surrey. 



MiittXlstttauti 



JI0TB8 ON BOOKS, ko. 
BMioffrapkv ^ the ScKon-^iatajHart ConlroMrtif, iet'tX 
sua andEtir^cu* Bj W. H. Wyman. (CinoioTiatl, 

TllOOltOO.) 

Iv his life of BVImond MkIoim, Bir James Prior, de- 
•cribiiii! the iinccuine flow of Shakipeariao cnticUm, 
aajrrt. " 8«Tcral lappoM tliaC be (Sbakeipeare) itrait more 
jilays tliHtt lie nfknnwledc^d ; other*, that be fatlicrs'l 
CDore thin he bkil written ; while the laat opinioaa are 
■till iDore original antl eztraordinnrj— tliftt bia name )i 
akiD Cn a tu^io, and Ibat h« wrote no )iU>« xt kW." We 
barr, buwcver. eot to a mint hcyund that, for aince the 
publicitiidn hy tbe late JHiw Delia Ilocon of hfrr article 
on " WilliAUi Hhskofpeare end In* PInjri " in /'NfMamV 
Monthly fur JaAuary, ISM, wbicb fint MiKcrMted tbe 
theory nf Becon'a authorship uf Shaktpeare's plays, 
numbcn of pompblete and ariiclea bare boon written on 
the flobject. Tu tucb a pitch, indrcd, hu t1ii« Racon 
roanik l>een carried, that it bM been gmvi-ly a«««rte<) by 
nn« writer that tbo fatnoua b'jrd Chancellor dIm wrote 
Fletchtr'a playi, and \ij another that be nan thn author 
of Moiitai^ae'i aaaajB ! To vuub thenries we cnn 
ace no «rtd ao long aa tbo bunian mind retains ita 
fertile power of imn(;iri»ttnn. nii>l it rot encum- 
bered with any inconifenicnt reganl for the dull and 
riro*7 I>'gie of eetabliibed facta. With regard to Mr. 
Wvman'a /t^lioffrapky, we think it a pity tlhat tbe com* 

lifer xhoald bare been ta luch a hurry to rush into print. 

fit was north doing at all. it ihould hare been done 
more carefully and iiton- exhaustively. W« are tuld by 
Hr. Wvman in the prtfuce tlmt In July, 18S2, he " iasued 
» amafl prirately printed BUtiograpky of Oki BacoH' 
Skatftptart Littiature, including all tbe titles then 
■acertaiiied, aixty'tbree in nombtr." In April. 1^4, 
*■ believinf; that tbe dliouMlon ha« reached a point that 
entitlcf it to aa complete a bibliography at can b« made," 
be iieucd tbe preMot volume. In tbii voluma we find 
172 title*, which were all In exiatenoe prior to July, 
]&S'2. M that from tbe oiupilor'a own abiuwin^ hia lint 
attccnjit wnj very lame. We ran aswire him. however, that 
bia ffocond compilation i% still fur from oomulete. Why, 
for instance, ihoald tbe article on the " Contem;iomTy 
Koticeaof Sbakeapeorr," wbicb appeared In the liriiisK 

SvMjUriy /letiev for July, 18f'7, t« omitted? Again, if 
« opinions of Lord Puliiicnloti uod of I'unck are worth 
recordinK. why abouM that of M. Rimuaet — an aulho- 
ritj, we Tenture to Uiink, <if toma weight on tbe salijcct 
of Bacon — be left unrecorded 1 So, too, we are at a Inta 
to nndcratand why noticei of Colonel Hart's Ancient 
Utile and Mr. Caldwell's U Sir Waltrr lialtigK Iht 



I 



A uAor t>f Shtilupmra't Playt and Se»ntU 1 are inaerted 
iti thia /iiUiogtaphf. The compiler ttit* ua bimeetf that 
tbe author of the iini book never luirKeNted that Baoou 
wrote Sbak«i>eare'« I'lay*. Tbe tide «f tbo ».ec»ind alone 
would, we iuould liave thought, STiflici^iitly hftve indi* 
c»t«d that it had nothing to il-t witb the iJ.K-ux-Stiak- 
ipcare contrnvfrfy. Finally, we muit remind Mr. Wyman 
tnat in u biblio{;rat>by it ia not auSicicot to give a de- 
•eription nf tbe reprint of a work when the oriutnal ia 
easily acocuiblv. Mr. Oladitone bas said fomewuere. In 
one of big e*Mys upon Homer, that " no exertion arient 
ii[>on any of tbe ^reat claaiica of the world, and atieaded 
with nnV amount of real result, ia thrown away." In 
Mr. Wyrnan'a case we are afraid tbftt any teal remit 
wbicb might poeiibly have been attained baa beaa aacri* 
Seed to want of adequate exertion. 

John Wiclif, Patriot and Hfjormer. (Unwitt.) 
Till.-* taity little volume ia designed aa a mamorial 
of tbe quincentenary of John WicUra death. Tbe 
book is dlrlded into two pnrti, (be first beinj: a abort but 
intereatinic accouuC. by J)r. Kudulf BaJJcnsieg, of Iho 
life and writiogs of tlie Rrcal Enpliib reformer. 'I'lie 
aecond part containa a variety of eitractj from Wiclil'a 
uupublinhed tract " D« Verilale Scripturx Satrsc," from 
(he " Trialogui.'' tbe "Wykclt," and from Vaughan'a 
" Trade and Treatiaee of John Wyklifie." It woa on 
Dee. 81, 18^, that Wlclif died at Lutterworth ; and 
though be haa exerciaed an extraordiiutry iollucuve nn 
our religions life end on our language, we are afraid 
that tbe majority of Kngliihmen in these dsya are ludly i 
ignorant of what they owe to biro. It is strange. tf)o, 
that any of fata wrltinnti should atill reninin in tnanu - 
script, but yet such is the feet, tbougb tbe Wyelif Soctcly 
ii now doing iu Lest to remedy tiiti. 

Tkb Gauahgitt for April CBell k Bona) conUInt a 
varied amount of vuluable matter, in which thR auibentio 
sonrcea to bo drawn from at tbo I'uhlic itccord Office 
not unnatunttly form a compiciious feature. The >peci- 
raen given of the new Fi-erag*. by 0. E. C, iaof intcreat, 
an showing something of the line adopted hv Ita author. 
While, of coursf, it nc,uld be impo*sibIc to jud)ce rucb % 
work by a single initalment. (here is ciioiigb b«fore us toJ 
prove the thought and care wbicb arc being bestowed 
upon it. Amrncan rtaJers will not fail to be inttresttd 
m Mr. Rendle's paper on Harvard University and tbe 
Southwark HarvKros. Tbe list of bembetb adminialra- 
tioTis connects u»efii1ly with tbo calendar of Lambctbl 
ftills publ'ubed by l>r. b. W. M>rehall,and tbo Worccater' 
diocesan marriage licencea afford eome useful link« 
where other aoutces fail. We trust that Mr. Walford 
Selby will be encovraxed to continue tbe good work so 
long carried on by Dr. G. W. Maraball iu tbe aame 
spirit of devotion to genealogical truth. 

The new seriea of Aliialtanta Otntalogioi et Utrotdiem 
(Mitcbcll dc Ilughoa) haa been furnished with an Index to 
vol. iv., marked by the snme cliHrartertstic fenturea of ful> 
neea that rendered its jtrctJectsaors u«eful. iir, Howard 
maybe congratulatoil on the oniount of work (o which 
bta index testlTici. and alen on tlie fact that a ituiicut of ^ 
names as well as of (;cnrNUigy or bUzon may cotiault iti 
contents nitb interest. Some very remarkable laniamea 
and uuu*uitl Christian namet are ensliriued therein, 
among which wc may specify Barbarin, preFtunahly a 
variiint of Barbara ; Anatatice, a female (Jbri?ttan tianie ; 
Theodoriua, ■, aumama ; Godlyf, u Cbristtnn name. Pur 
othem. too numeroua to recite here, wc tuuat refer our 
readers to Dr. Howard's own pages. We may aild that 
tbe articlea in vol. i. of tbo second aeries, commtoiced 
witb this year, continae to present featorea o( c«»u,vl«- 
ablo intcttBt, uid ttit YVWU^^vd^a »& ""iaja 'Oa'^fc**^*, 



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[8A8.r JtriTfi/li 



Scjliard. and Monk unu and pedigrees are admirabl; 
executed. 

Part VIII. of Mr. HmdIKod's />anM/i«r detli with the 
poem* of TbotuM Uood. 

Thii lilth part of tbe Encytlapadic Dictionary 
(CaM«I) U Co.) flDi«be« the letter A and commcDoee 
fi. Tbe nrticlei on AatroDomj aod Aitrulopir are sye- 
eially nutowortby. Uodor " Aiterojd ' ii giien a lU* itf 
all ulvroiU dibci>Tercd U|i to Mireh. Ifi'H. Tbe liet will 
be comnleted uudcr tbe beads "Plauei" and "Solir 
Saltern. * 

A Kfjf to tke IVavtrUji Noveli, by Henry Orey (Griffith 
k Farrao}, euppliee an epitome of theee talei, to wbieb 
i» appended an index to the principal cbaractcre. 

Tub Krtee of bandboobA btfued by tbe International 
Health Exbibittoii (Ctowea k 8on») Im likely to bo of 
(renuine value. Tbote Into whlob we hare looked— 
Wtttrr anil Water SupplUMf Tks Pri%eipta of Cookery. 
and Fir* cmW Ftrt Brigitdts, by Capt. Eyro M. Shaw, C. U. 
—are excellent, 

Hisaju. Cas^SLL bare publubed a fait account, with 
nioitration*, of tbe ShakipeAte Metaorial, Stratford-on- 
Atod. 

Stimmtr Dayt, tlie bolidsy niiniber of CaueWs Magn- 
tint, coiitaine '* im Amateur Laadecepe Pbotograpb," by 
the HeT. A. H. Mulan, M.A. TbU ia Bccorapenled by 
an itliutration of Broadniiidsor likely to iDt«rg«t our 
rcftdcre. 

Tub ConUiiil, in addition to " Some Literary Recol* 
leoCioni," liu an article on " EmbaluL-r#."— Mr. Andrew 
Lang cimtrtliutee to lionffjaan'l a " BalUda of Kailnrajr 
Norels." To tbewmernkKaiineMr. JefferiescDUtnbutei 
a charactertetic euay, entitled "Sonny Brigbton.'" — In 
the BnglUk JUiulrabd appear "Martia Lightfoot's 
SonfT.'* a poem by Cbarlee Kingtley, end " Tbe Royal 
Collection of Miniituree at Windsor C«tle," by Mr. K. 
Bolmea. — Tbe AV-tntUenth Ccnfurv euppliee n bnlUd " On 
a Country Road," by Mr Swinburne; ■ paper by Sir R. A. 
Crott, M.P., on " Tbe City of London LiTcry Companiee "; 
and ono on " Retrogreeiii'e Relifiion," by Mr. Herbert 
Spencer. — M, Keitan'i new Tolume of itudtea of Orxffiuft 
du CAriitianiime ie reviewed in MaaniiluH. in which alto 
apireera a oloTcr duolngiie by H. D. T, on " Tbe Consola- 
tlons of PeBeimisiu.'* — In the Antitiuarian Moffarim ajid 
JSiUioprapker, Mre. C. G- Bi>Ker, a valued contributor to 
our ptiges. continuci " Tbe Let(t.<nd of King Arthur in 
Soraemet," Mr. Round alio nuppiioi na.rt iii. of " ' Port ' 
and ' Purt-Rc>-T0,'" and Mr, C. Walfurd coniiauee liis 
" liiitory of Gilds." A view of the Great V&rmoutli 
TolbouM 18 pTftixed to the number, — " Same Londoit 
ClexrinKt : Clorkenwdl," wbicb appears in All tUe Year 
Hound, treatfl with Bonic noviliy & faoiilitr eabjeet. 
Warwiekibireii itUl the subject of" Cbroniclee of EUigliih 
Counties." — Among the subjects dealt with in the Lonttpn 
Qitarterit/ are tbe Ute F. D. Maurice and Tjord Lyiid> 
burst— I'lie Ciintemporary contalne an exceHi'tit paper 
by Prof. Mabaffy on " Untrodden Italy," ami one by 
M. Gabriel ?t1naod on " CoDtemporary Life and Tbouirbt 
# in Prance." — An article of special interest to readen of 
" N. k (^." appears in tbe OenttemaHi under the bead 
"Italian Folk-Sonfts."— No. ^i) of tbe Modtrn Reritte 
contains essays on Wilkelm Vatko and F. D, Maurice. 



Tq the July part of Iho Mijce/lanta Oentalogica Mr. 
Stephen Tucker, Somerset Herald, bas communicated ad 
InlerestinfC account of tbe a«signm«nt of arms to the 
father I'f Shakspeare. This account a illustrHted by lire 
£acsi miles of documente from tbe HrraldV College 
records. Tbe«e have been must carefully executed lo 



pboto-litbograpb, and will be heartily veloooMd by iO 

tboie interested in Shakspcariaoa. 

Tu K narrative of the birthplace of tKi Brtkiiica. which 
appeared at ^me length in tbe AlAdtumm of March 1 
lut. has borne fruit. Within tbe last few days there l«i 
been set up. by order of tbe Lord Prevuet aud Town 
Council of fCdinbsrgb, a haodsome tablet in brotuse indU 
eatioK tbe bouae. It bears the ioKription : — 
In this house were bam the flonble. 
Uenry Enkine, Lord Advocate for ScotUnd. 

D. 1746^ ». 1817, 

Aad 
Thomas, Lord Ertkinc. Lurd Chancellor of EngtaBd. 

a. ITlD— It. IBiS. 
Xo poor man wanted a friend while Harry Enkine 
lived. 
The last tentence h now proverbial in 8cotUuHl, sad 
valued accordingly by the detretidants of the Sooteh 
lawyer. The tablet unU iiitcription are. wa believe, 
from a desijrn fumiibed by the biographer of Henry 
Erskine, Vititors to Edinburich will have no dlffioalcy 
in Anding the bouse in (jueation, aa it is nearly oppoeiti 
(u that of John Knox, in the High Street. 



fiatUU to Corrr^iianOrntf. 

Wt must caU ipteial aUtntion to the Mtowxnff n«tiem' 

Oh all oommnnicatioiis mttst be written tbe name aad 

addrsN of Che sender, not necessarily for publicaUon, | 

as a guarantee of gnoA faith. 

Wk cannot undertake to answer queries priv&t«ly. 

To secure insertion of communications correepondesili 

mast observe the foUowioii rule. Let each nuto, queiy* 

or reply be written on a senarate slip of pftper, witn tbi 

signature of the writer ana such adorees m be wieb« t» 

appear. Correspondents who repeat queries ttn r«qiiwt*4 

to head the second communication " Duplicate.** 

Q. ("Little drops of watcr").~Thia is tbe first line of 
bymn 410 in tbe Uifmnat Companion, to l\e Jioei t) 
Comition Prayer {Sampson Low k Go.). In the anno- 
tate edition it is stated that the fimt five Tereei are by 
Dr, E. C. Brewer {cur correapondent\ and tbe sixth bff 
the editor, tbe Rev. E. U. Bickersteth. 

E. MiBsnALL. — We are much obliged for the words 
of tbe song Mi/ Afot^tr. At it ia too long fur our coluouu 
we have forwarded it to Mr. Humittoni, 

Jon5 Tatlor ("Fotberins^ny Castle"). — Your infor- 
mation eonceniing this building baa been forirsu^led to 
Mr. Sims. 

DioAMMA ("A Literary Revolution ").— The schmM 
you advocate timply means the substitution of open spa>e«l 
for punctuation. 

H. F. (" Name of Author Wanted ").— In the case of 
a liviog writer chooiing to biJe biiiiself bctiind a paeaio- 
nym, it would clearly be inditcroet for us to give tbe 
roal name, supposing ui to know it. 

MoKASTious.^Tbe date of tbe estabtlshnient of KU< 
burn Priory is not known. It was fur nuns, vrta in 
ISi^ under the order of Kt. Augustine, and remained a> 
until its suppression in 1530. 

tlOT/CK. 

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Editor of 'Notes and Queries*"— Advortisements _ 
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Wellinnton Street, Strand. L.^nilon, W.C. 

Wo bL-LC leave to state that we decline to return t 
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A UTKUAItV CEAZG. 
A oonlrilniior to BhuLuxwlt iUiij;a3%ni— alas I 
'fi^s StmlcBpere aod Dante iutA 
ii. It. iff the extrikorHin&rj 
ir.niiQn ui liiiu writrr that the Botinol« 
79, feO, !?;*>, tsG, iu Shtk«pere'» iwriM, 
[W ibe auilhor of TA^ /Jit-in': Vwiwltj aa a 
ipMl, ftUfaodKb then iUce»»«d for over two 

k |iRBUi:ii}tiTe liga of weaVnen is that the 

\3w;ti^rf ia hmitcd to the four loDnets tpec'ified 

*^'~ iiklupere ba» written mncb more 

*^'" ry. TaklDg, howeTer, the writer'a 

'' '. we find tho qtiestion narrowed to 

'" I •> I. Certftin confewions of admitted 

V, ex. yr., " worthier pen " (79) ; *' better 

jlU builrliug " (H(() ; •• able ipint," " well 

J^i ixn" (Mi); '*gTe»l Terse" (fi(!). The 

««w»i DOW »ittx*'»ta that Ibcfe termi caonot 

^mbe auj rr - .1. _ .1 Ei,^, 

^'^'■"•i "•'>• liter to 

" able 

^ lJ that 

ii*» Uiiuft titecnhe oua not really ta the flctb ; 



l« TU«li»»liJ«u,M|o»uilcatiDiL 



"bbi spirit, by aptrits tanffbt to write abov* a 
mortal pitch," " his cMmp^^era by nighr giving him 
aid," *' tbac nfTttble foniilinr choat, which tti|ihtly 
tifults him with intelliycnco " (Hti) ; this, it i» held, 
cannot »pp'y t<^ atiy 'jrditmry mortnJ. even by an 
Intentiooiil exii;.'i{*'rtttiun amonijtiujt ^ bypi-rlioj**, 
and tb«> fioppoaiiiuu follottit thi&t the flupernatural 
references can only be explained by a aort of 
[JantejKino vision. 

Now, the crtixhiog objection in that Rbakipera 
deacribea it all in the prtncnt tense: *' niKhtly 
jjulls**; perhapa Danbe tnu gulled, but that would 
nil be past to Sbakiipere. Howerer, a fiittbpr 
examination of the soDnels shuts u« out completely 
from this wild i!iuei!i>stioo, and limits the r<^ferenoefl 
to one or more lirinij auihoni, known peraonally 
to Shakapere, and diitincily pointed at by hloL 
Thus, in Sonnet 21 wo read :^ 

"So tc u cot with iiie Bi with that Muaa, 
Attrr'il liy a paitiLi d btuiiitjr to hi* vsrie ; 
Will) li«BT«n iUflf for uruanioiil doth it«o 
And everj fair with ii\t talr Ooth reheane ; 

• • * * 

Let them s»y more that like. ....." 

Thifl is known to refor to Drayton. Again, {a 
Soooet 3S, we road : ** Compf*re them [these lincaj 
with the bettering of the time ; and though they 

be outstripjj'd by every pen exceeded by the 

height of happier men Since poela better prove, 

iheira for their style 1 'II read, hi« for hie love." 
The rivals, it will be aeen, are in ibe plural ; not 
Dante alone. In No. 38 the jealooay ia ifiten- 
»ified : — 

" H"w can my Mute want iubj«ct to itirent, 

Wbilo tbou doM breathe 

too exoelleiit 

For every raltfar pa|)cr tt> rvhearve I 

who 'i to dumtt tbkt cannot writo to tbei t 

t « • • 

He thou the tenth Ma*e 

Aod he tbat calls on ihao.- ..." 

Thir, again, ia » bit at Drayton, and is followed 
by a long break : aocordingly^ in No. 78: — 

" So oft have I invoked tbre for my Muse, 

• • • • 

As c«iry alien j>iin hatli gnt my uw 
And under ibce their poc»y dt*perso." 

Here U the whole trouble ; Shaksperc had dedi- 
cated verses to a young nobleman, and others do 
the same. Now, twint the words lut you picaae, 
Dante cannot possibly luve been one of tbeeo "alten 
pens." 
Sonnet 79 conitnoes in the same ttnin : — 

** Whilst I alone did call upon thy sld. 

• • • • 

But ■ " ;,laof. 
VctvriiBluL titce ttiy i»u«l dulli iiivcitl '* 

How can "thy poet" of the prMenfc day, who 
<* doth iovent,*" be Dante f 



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I6'»8.XJn.TlS,'S4. 



Bonnet 80 :— 

"0. Iiow I Uint wlien T of yon Jo vrnie, 
Knowiiiff ft b-tttr apirit di^tb luo your aamc." 

This i«rni "balt^^r Hpiril" cinnot be sepfcrated 
from the terms *' alieu pen " and *' thy poet," etncQ 
all ia Id Bequt'oce. It coatioaea : " lu praise [of 
thee] vpeods all his might to make me tongu?- 
taed." This is pluiolj levolled at a Imnft poet, 
aod disAllowa aoy soggestioD of the diafimbcnliod 
spirit of 006 deceased, 

Soooet Hi acknowledges that his patron li 
entitled to accept further dedioatious other tbua 
bis owD, yet, — 

" Whan they bnvo devlMd 

W)iai atrained toacbti rbatoric emit IgaJ 

» • " • 

And their grau paUtlng might be better umJ." 
We mnst not conRne our views to Drayton; clearly 
the xitals are lefiion. In Sonnet 83 : — 

" Otheri woalJ fcire life and bring a tomb. 
There Uvoi morn lifd in one of yuur ffttr oi cs 
Thftu both your poeti ran ia praice devise/' 

Sonnet Sri is peculiar, and indiuoltihly con* 
necled with 8fi, which ii final. He iai clearly 
broat(ht face to face with a conip«er whom he can- 
not afford to despise, and Sbakspere'» words are 
luorc th&u coinplimeutary. Clearly do lirioit cnn- 
tempornry but Marlow«* can deMtre the fjllowinu 
eloquent tribute — Marlowe, the '* dead shepherd " 
otAi YonLiluIt, HI. t.:- 

" Mr lonsuo-U«d Mium iii manners haldi ber atitl, 
Wliile commtnts of yoor praiic, ridlity diuipilcd, 
BcKfTc [lc. perjHJtuateJ tlirir obar&cter with golden 

quill 
And precious phrase by all tbe Mu*ei flled. 
I think good ihougbtfl wbitst utiier write (jood wnrdu, 
And likeunletter'U olcrk still dry * Amen' 
Tr> ercrr l>>-mn thut able spirit affords 
III iwhab'd form of well n-QiiC-d pen. 

• • • • 

Was it tbe proud full lail of bis great Terse, 
B'lund for tbe |-rii« of all too precious you, 
That did tiiy ripe ibuugbta in my brain inbeorse ! 

• * • • 

Was it his spirit, by ipirita taught to write 
Above a mortal pitch, that struck me deadi 
JIo, rit-lttiiT \iv iH'T U\* tMiii]-t r* by night 
(iiviDi; liiiti aid. my vi:t«o iwC mtiUdd. 
Ho, nor that atfaViIe familiar gboit 
Which nightly gulls htm with ititoUigence. 

• a • • 

But when your eountanaoce Ull'il nil bis line. 
Then laokd I matter ; that eiifocblcl mine" 

Thia hi hnrd to nnderstund, but I decline to accept 
the ffreat Florentine uit interpr(>ti>r. 

Snakspere dedicated his Teuux and AdonU 
■od bis Luo-fC6 to ■ popular youn^ aobleroaa 
Darned Lord .Soalbampton. and we know of no 
other dedications by him. The atrooK presamption 
this offers in favour of ibis youthful nobleman as 
thfl flddreueeof the aooneta is most ntmngcly dis- 
iVptrded by Shsk^putiB speoUUsts of the present 



* Unlue w« tnterlila Speoser as a suppoKJ rival. 



d»y. This same nobleman is known Ia ban* »»- 
ceived di^dioatlons or poetical fuh'. i lai 

Samuel Diniel, John DAviesof U*>rv\ 
Birne«, Oervnia^ Markhaiiij Geurfji* With 
Flnrio, Chapman, Braitfawaite, Nnvh, and Marlui 
Llere u ample room and verge enough for rivalj 
VV'e need not dwell too curioM'Ty on the naa 
aapcQl of such compotiiiou; suffice it rh^it tbj 
sonnets, so plainly ascribed to Sh*kflpere, 
pluiuly indicate its existence and inH'i>-nce oo i 
tiua he bu ^ivon to the oorreapondenor, i.| 
composition of those sonnets. 

Taken as a " stiteiiient of oase,'* it is imj: 
to entertain tbettn^jijestiou put furth in BlacJiu 
but perhaps the eminent Uiintopbitist who 
reiitured so far will be better autittierl with 
attempted identifitsilion of the so-called " rif 
than the m^re fl-tt contradiction here Lends 
and for that purpose X shall ewk tbe aocomiDB 
tton of some further spaoe hereafter. 

A, Haw 

MAGYAR FOLK-TALES. 

[CohtiHHid ftom O'l' S. ii, 5t'3.) 

In another tale, '^Km^ht E'tse,'*' three pnn 
were obliged to leare home becauM tht>ir faUaerl 
been slain and his country taken. Th«y traved 
across the anow-clad mouulains, and at last dee 
to sepirate to aet^k their fortune alone ; 
parting they put up a ]ouf{ pole with a 
handkerchief fusteued to it on the top of a 
tree, and agreed to keep within r^ight of 
handkerchief, and should it turn red it was to 1 
a AJgn that one of the brothen wan in danger. So 
they parted, and the youngest, Knii^ht Rose, 
veiled on to tbe seventh soow-capped moant 
and there came to a castle, which he anted 
and wherein he decided to settle down. At 
the gates Hew open and seven immense 
rushed in. Rose crept uuder the bed, btil 
soon smelt him, and one of them cned, **P| 
what an Adam-like smell is bece!"t Kos« 
found, cut np Into snmll pieces like a csbb^ 
stalk, and thrown out of tbe window. lo 
morning the giants went oat, and ao soo&l 
they wore gone a snake, which bad the bs 
a handsome girl, eame down from a btuh 
gathered up Rose's body, patting eaob mor 
proper pUce. She then anointed him wit' 

* Krixa, vt. This tale t>rcar« in Finland and] 
Cr. .Vrt^ai from tht Far &ul, iLHi. 

^ «... ^ :..:,... _....,. ,._. M UPPI 

Aco<^<' irtn I 

will, n , tv I 

Thay uxu ' 
KittiiB and i^- 

: !■ I 

perb.-, ■ ,St 

(uWiun-Uinr: i;i / -U lo, ■ ,/,. .^r.iai, '\i'r;i, :ial» 

Cf. Fluu story of *' tivldou Bird." 



i%^.^ 



NOTES AND QUERIES? 



2S 



Bilod birn with the wmter of life and death * 
I a tnomeot he sprang up ut«ii tiui^i h&nd- 
nnd ttruD^er than before; aod the sniikt'it 
ell oir Lbe girl ua fur ils h«r arm-pits. Tb^l 
Roao did nut get uinj^r the bt:rl, but met 
rvauts whom the (giants hod sout f»rir&rd lo 
Jiill that "wretched heir of Adaon '; bat tbej 
nui Kiray, for Koee wns so BtroDj; that the giante 
iren» oUiKt*d to cot him up themsotves. 

Xtxtday the Rnake-niniden did as before, atid 
Bne« revived atroDKer iHan ever, the ektn slipping 
off the maiden ai far as her waii>t. That night 
Bote killed the HrTonta and woiindrd aeveral of 
lh» gUoU before he vnu out up. Next momin); 
the analcp- maiden restored him agaia^ and now he 
«u ntronger th&n all the aeren giants tofjether, 
and Ad for his beauty, jou oould look at the aun, 
bat TOO oonld not look at hinL And notr the 
Rtake-*kin slipped otf the msid altogether, and 
■be told Hose the wai a king's daughter, and that 
the gianta hid killed h«r father and wont out 
•very Amy lo plunder her people. She herielf 

tbad >if<:<}tiie u suake by thn help of e fiood old 
f)n-i .nd had nttde » voir to remain a 

MTi' she was reTeiiged on the giants, 

whitlt >b« WAS sure bho would now be. That night 
BoaB tiew the uiaota. Next day, lu he looked 
tRjl of tlia castle window, he saw the white tlif; 
wax bloody, and so taking hia eword, his bow and 
UTOwi, aoine healing Kt^aa, and vouie waC«r of 
life had dentb. he sallied forth. On his way he 
khuC id when he came to the place of 

kept ! 'iind a hutand his brothers two 

^4^ (^^uiiiiit.i ..u it ; so, stopping there, he li/,'hled 
a floe and faegui to roast the haro. As he sat fa« 
kflud m vDioe io the tree oryiof;, "Ob, how cold 
I am ! "^ "If yoa *re cold, come dowu and warm 
yeuraelf," said Rose. "I'm afraid of the dogs," 
ftsid ttie Toiee; " pleaae throw this hair between 
tkem and let them smell it, and then they will 
know me." Ko«e took the hnir and threw it in 
II tkv Are, and dowo oamo an old witch and sat by 
^ft tbc fire : abe then spitted a toad and befcan to roast 
^^H. In m motuest or so she threw it at It-}<ie, 
■ MJto^i ^This 19 mine, but thjtt is yours." Kose 
•praep uii in a nt'o, and smote the old witcU with 
J^ vvora, wh^n, lo, it turned into n lo^ of wood. 
la e Boiaent the old witch flew at him. crying, 
" It a ell up with you aUa I 'U kill you aa I killed 



.,-. />.....,... fVI-.Tfl/M, cup. It. "Prince 

iiire ill bi* c*>nieBi with Hn 

:'. of it-< "Nffftth, knil it cut* 

.et nil |>njgr*fi« 

^tii fifi »<ii t1<e 

: : L iJ iwor.l t-' cut 

-^ , in a fiiuiitriit atir » » blroilint: tnatu of 



r tnr iaie* c^if h*i U ic^jmc^ W cluUcja, 



yonr brothen, bocanse you hare slain tny Hven 
giant ■onff,''^ But Koso set his do^s at her, and 
tbey drbfjLjed her about till the bloodt catue, and 
aa it ft>li on l\iv loj; of wood it becAtne ii sword 
oucti uorp. Untie caught it and chopped oil ber 
left arm ; now the witcli showed hioi where she 
had buried his brotheiti. Rme smote her tfiain, 
and " the old witch went to Pluto's." Rose then 
reauacitated his brothers, and the eldest brother 
went home and ruled over hts father's realm, whilat 
the other joined Rose in the r&tt realm over which 
the tiittnla had tyrannized, 

Tbeee may be taken aa fair aamplea of witdi 
atoriea aa told amid the Magyar people, the 
*' iron nose " or iron teeth bein(( insepar- 
ably connected with the witches. Some of the 
stories are fall of wild and blood -ourdline 
scenes. Such is ""The Ooont's Daughter,"^ 
wherein the heroine — who waa sonfibt after by 
all the marriageable men in the country — for 
the fame of her beauty and wealth was known 
from " Hencxida to Bonczida," Amongst other 
suitora were three aone of a count, who dwelt 
in a cAiitId in the wood, and appeared to be 
immensely wealthy, thoufib no one knew where 
the raouvy oiime from. Ttiese young men were 
continually at the castle, and were very 
anxious to persuade the young lady to visit 
them, but she would not. One day she wan* 
dered away in the wood, and came lo a nisi^i- 
fioeut castle. Crossing the courtyard, she vent 
op the marble steps, one hundred in number, hut 
there was not a soul to be seen. \Vhi>n she OAmo 
to the landing a parrot cried, " Girl, beware! " but 
the f{irt wmi ao dazzled by the splendour that she 
went on op another hundred steps, seeing frefth 
wonders at every turn, but no living thing. At 
luMt she opened a door on the landiug, and found 
tliat it led into a magniOoent room with three 
beds in it ; this she felt sure waa the room 
of the three young men. Going on, she found 
the next room full of all sorts of wenpons ; 
beyond that was a great ball, crowded witli 
every oonceivabto kind of dress, luililary, cleri- 
cal, civilian, &c., also piles of female robea. 
Going still fitrther,i>he found a female tigure made 
of itticorfl, that stood with open ermt over u fearful 

• VuU antf 

t Cr. Yiirkibiro anJ LincolnsUirc cuporstilion that it 
dcatruvs tlic pntrrr ff ft witch if jou Jraw binoj. A 
lRd;r totil me lliaL »)ie had heard of a case wlnre a Urmer, 
not beine able i<> drive liii bones pakC m certiitn «.-i<((at:*^> 
(.■ut di>«rti Irniii Itifi Vi'ftiiK"" and went mid tlira^licd ibe 
iiKl wbttiftn till tht> blood ctmo, »bi-n the bursrfi *t r>itc« 
went on llKir uttf. Boc bIbii Hyko^'i t or til linrndt 
of A ircn$tU-vi.on-T<fnr, niider .Marcli 'jO, KHU. wlicre it 
wita rr^'ardcd n* a cortAiti iign tbnt a wtiDiiin nan a wJUb 
if tU« I'lftHMl did pdt o-me wbeii a pin Wfta ttiruit inUi 
"" in occurs in Uie Jjanp ttiles, 

' ftwBo Seeieby, ••The Vila 

^ hrdcl;ii, ii. 



24 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



tatk&x. ju.tis,i 



dxurk hole. Horror>ttrickon she fled back. When 
■be gofi a8 fikr M tbe bed-room abe heard the 
sound of male voioea, and in ber terror sfae crept 
under odo of the beds. JoBt then tbe door op**iied 
ftnd the oouDc'a tbr^e aonR came id, CArryiog with 
them a beaaufal girl, a great friend of the treui- 
bUo;; maid under ibe bed. The m^a stripped 
their cnptive. atid &» they cnuld not (jet hr>r 
diamond riiii; from her finuor (hey chopped it off, 
and the little tioffer Tollt:d under tbe bod where 
tbe rich i^rl was hidden. Oue of the men bettao 
to look for it, but ceased upon beiug reminded 
that he could find it afterwards. Tbe poor 
captive was then taken to tbe next room, and 
in a moment the razor 6gnre elutpfld ita armn 
and the ti^tVn mangled remains fell into the 
deep bole. Upon their retnm tbej pat off 
till the morning their eearoh for tbe rinp;, and 
went to bed. Tbe hidden girl wait«d till they 
alept. and, secreting the fioi^er in her drets, 
crawled out of tbe room and fled. Next day 
the three brothers came as usual on a rialt to tbe 
ooaDt««8 and hvr daughter. Tbe dAnfjhter then 
told of a remarkable dreoiu she bud had, describ- 
ing ail she bitd gone through the night before. The 
men's Hn^^piciona were arouaed, and when the girl 
produced iho bleeding Bn^er with the ring upon it, 
Ihey oriod out, " We are betrayed," and tl-d ; bui 
serranta were all around, and tfaey were seized, 
tried, and beheaded as a punishmeat for tfaeir 
namberUas horrible deeda* 

In the "Hunting Prince* "t we ooma aorus 
a strange piece of primitive acienoe : the 
yonogeflt prince, after Killing tbe dragon with 
aeren bendt, goes to fetch a light in order to 
rekindle the wntcb'fire, wbtoh has been ex- 
tingoiibed by the monster's blood. Looking 
amnnd he 8e(>« a (glimmer that is three days' 
journey off. So away be goes, and on his way 
meeta '' Midnight.'' who tries to pasv him un- 
aeen ; but the prince c itches biiu and tioA him 
witjb a atout strap to nn o:ilc. F<iur or live hours 
later he meela " I>i»wn," and treats bitu in like 
mauoer. Thus Time is stopped, nor dooa it 
move on till the prince, after a variety of iidven- 
tares, returns and unloo^ea Midnight and Dawn, 
and so aUowea Time to go on. 

W. HcxBr Jokes. 
{Ta b4 tontmucd.) 



BnOK-rLATKS. 

I have been a collector for many yean, and 
have got a oonaiderable namber of book>pUcei. 

■ rny itrAnfl- 
ni" i>r wliicli 

Wit '<ild to b« 

a ' K'Oiira iu 

t Kri., 111. Di-- ;;i.n; ■■! I ' i ■■■'i nri.l .'1 iaiilghl OOCUTS 

hiKferal eUivr Matfjrar foUc-ulw. 



The following notices of somn of the mof» i 
able among them may bo intorestlng. 

The plate of Cbitfles, Lord KIphio8tOD^ 
Urye and handsooie. It is CDhT™*^ by 
f'.wiper, Eiieu'*," and hua the ciiritnis uioM 
** C*\ue caose ll." Another Urge pUt« 
"Tbe Honble. William Fraser. of Fr* 
Eflqre." It has the arms and supportera i 
Salloun, but has tlie lion rampxnr- of All 
on an woutcbeou of pretence instead of 1 
aecond quarter, which ia here Gules, a lion 
pant argent (for Mowbmy ?). Sir John Haa 
Delaval, Bart.'s, haodsoiue book-pUttt has twoc 
shields pUoed aide by side on a sort of pedtiti 
Tbe first shield has, Quarterly, 1 and 4, liarty j 
six ermine and gules, for Husaey ; 2, 
ohevron between three garbs sable (BUke 
3, Or, a croas vert, Huasey. The eeoond 
is Robinson. I btive a few dated boot 
The oldest is that of George Montagd 
17<»5. The arms are Montagu and Mooc' 
({uurterly. The helmet is turned to tbe lefl 
ne&c is that of " Edward Haistwelt. of the 
Temple, Esqr., Miiccxviil." The arms 
Onies, on a cross between twelve cross or 
Rtchee argent, an eagle di.-*pl»yed scLbte, with < 
suitable motto, " Featina lente." " Jno. 
chier, Ksqr., 1739," has a smtll book-pl*t« 
tbe arms, Argent, a oroas engrailed gules 
fnur water bougeU sable. The huoU-pUt« | 
Keir, Esq.. is dated 1811. It is v«r 
meaaaring D in. by 6 in. The armi, 
cross engrailed sable between four rosea | 
crescent for difference, are placed on a sbio 
tng on a pillar, on tbe top of which is a b«lD 
with tbf) crest an arm holding a dagger, 
are, ** KicfaJ Smirke, del.," and '* Ab"" Raiul 
sculp'." This book-plate is beantifiilly eogmv 
A curious book-pUie of the AL^r family 
iihield baD^rius fr>m tlie branch of n tree, i 
it two ovaI shield) side by side bntweeu a f 
a grillin. Ttic first shield bears the crosa • 
nf Mar, and the seoond has the piite of Knktl 
Below is "Uoione (1436) K-.rtiMr" An 

Keouliur book-plate has Uie ali 
krge monogram (I. 8.). The a- 
Az'ire, two bars and a chevron in chief or, Sf 
i, Bendy of eight argent and aablo, a 
for difference; 3, I'or soltire (tnUs and 
foar crescents oounterchanged, Sprye. impalj 
Lioyd. Tbe crest is a dove standing on a si^r 
and the inottA, *' Jlftver imffw at nirnplw." Ij 
onir throe ! " ' 
of John I> 

lire r; ::i i (n- .inns 

\m I i.urferly with 

An nil i :\» t>i':- M[. ■''■■- --l-^rod 

of .Tamufl Trul, D.l> , ; Dt 

(bonor. The but i<. .. .-. . .... ' 

t'atbea. In Uu dexter ara tltrea p 



lax. Jnr 12, -S<.} 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



25 



> £ncfaio. I believe hovcver, Ihtt the see of 

Brechia has, strictly upeukinfr, no arms. Of 

L^elda wiib mAny qnarteriogs I have a t^w 

"ioaena. Tbat witb th« krgui oamher (thirty- 

fi* the bu'tUpIiito of Siitiknnnh, Duoticss of 

'ilton. It htw JJeckford ja tbo first and l&Ri 

en, luid is Hiirmuunted by two crestA, Beok- 

I and H«mtltoD. Of course this ii wroDHi a ^f^dy 

^oot being entitled to use a crest. The shieM is 

so mcorrect in form. The Mtne error in uBtog 

ctt»t oocurs in the book-pUUts of Lady Otiat 

nd Ano Bruce. More correct in form is th« 

riuoobce of FfADOTS M»ry Rtobardson Oorrer, 

|vith HtvenI qiiarteriDgs. I hare a few foreign 

Mwk'platea. A very old one is that of A. F. 

_ !)oy«a. The arins are, Azun*, a chevron or be- 

twtea three birds (duckti /) argent. Abrahatu 

LaU bwTB, Vert, two hontu counter salient 

argent, and for crest a borao's bead erased 

af>t»at. Tho motto is ''DnaK^ en verdraaf^ht." 

Anoilier, without a name, bears Argent, a 

MUtfi't attire gules, impaled with Azure, a round 

- '■ * on a full-faced holruot two staffs' 

Pbitip Vun Swindva has, Od a 

. upon u vase gules, three grey- 

' ardent. The oreet, a demi-gri^y- 

hon^ '^ ^.J on the neck of the tusb. The 

■MraTsri n«rae is below, *' D.irtio^, G* Newport 

&. ' W. fJarte bears a bead between three 

flvniV'dfr-lii, with a stag's head cuupwl for crest. 

It baa also the name of tfaeengnTer, "Kemigeroth 

»c., Upi.'* John Barretlo has a curious book- 

EUl«. It may be described as Knuiue, nine 
kurel ItraTrs, 4, '.i, and 2, and has for creat a 
peculiar lij^re, like bnlf a doll without the arms. 
A sineatar non-bcraldic, or rather quasi- heraldic 
lh>nk-pUte, is that of John Bamsay, No. 17, 
r£arl Street. Blackfriaia. It is not easy to de- 
[scriba iL The field is Ajcure, a fesse wury ar- 
vitfa the sun in chief, beoesth which is a 
J, from which arw fallicj; drops of rain, Be- 
h is aJAr for distillin;;, with fluuies below it, 
|ud tat multo there is " iJrop as rain, diitill as 
|d*«." There »re also snpportcn. The dexter in 
ft pscaltar-toL>king man with a peakel cap, and 
tka sinister is an American Indian, huldiog a bow 
fa Ui baud. B. C. W., i^.S.A.SeoL 



Bi9i3«AruirAi, KoHOBft coNCKRSiNo Major 

like to potut out u remsrUiiblft 

in the biogrspby of Andrt^' 

lit in.:- ^ " ''■•>^rapfty« GiruraU. 

rmul, "1. et fiiwilli' conime 

!^'' '' iVhoou rcadini; this 

ling of AndriS'tt enrnrtt, 

•■■'I request, " tbnt ho 

1. <^, that lie mi^ht 

Not content with 

iL, lUc aalhor of the short 



biocrapby in question says of Arnold, "qui, foijj^ 
nant de tnibir Ics Anit;ricains, nritit deioftDdi' 4 
entrer en ponrparlen avcc Irs AngUis." Arnold's 
condnct w^fi undoitbledir i" bad aa could be; but 
tbi* is inilped an eitninrdinnrily pervvrtfl nwount 
of it. Oiiilly enoiiKli, th« OMmi hi. ■.'.-'.■ falls 
into a coustdrnible error ia the t:\.- ' this 

trannACtion, giving tho date nf Aii<w> .> t-iv^utioQ 
OS February 2 instead of October tl. 

W. T. Lntjf. 

"As YoTT LxKi It" iitosotkd to SanoLo. 
— It has notfiofarufll kn<>w, been pointed out 
that Shakespeare, in tho iidftpMilion of his plot, 
was indebted t^ a work of which tbo fnlloivinK is 
the title; — "Vinrtutio \ Savtolo \ h\4 Fmetim. | 
lu two Bookes. | The First intrentiot; of the Use 
of the Rapier t and Dagger. | The Second, of 
Honor and honomble | Qtmrr^ls. | London, | 
Printed by lobu WnlTe. | 1595," In the second 
book, »i£. i.^ (middle paragraph on first leiaf, recto), 
we rtfud: — 

"When the Emperoitr CAaWci the fifth, eamo to hi 
crnwncd l>y P<>^o Clemenl the iwv«iitb. Tbu Em|>«rour 
had tti hit ti'Buif-, a icreat Mooro lik« « fiinnt, who Ite- 
•iilit" htft tallnui wantod no ralotir tn '. t.etinc 

woTi'lcrrull atrooc: be at«J0Yl»; ti>B i tirvall 

mi Kiiii'finiur, wai rcf(«!ci«d of allmfii likrlye 

of dirers frioccs wbich accoiaj'sui'-d Uio liltu^-ucuur," 

Then follows the challenge to wrestle, accepted by 
iiodomant, the Duke of Afaulua's brother, and at 
the second trial Kodomiinl kttla the Moor and in 
coosequeoce tlies the court. To shuw the abHohite 
identity Irelween the iQit.i.il plot of A* You Lik* 
II and tbiH incident, I present the details in a 
tubular form, using the «ign = as that of corre* 
apondence: — 

The Kiu[.craur OharlM the firths^tht UnnpiufC I^ok* 
FroJerick. 

A tcrcat Uoore like a QUnt<=^Cbarles, the Duke'i 
w rf itler. 

The D'iktf of ]t[Atituk>— Oliver de Bojs. 

Hi« bri.liier Ucilomant^OrUndo «1e Uoys. 

The M'lnr is vMnquuboil by Uodoraant ^^ Ohiirles is 
T«nqui*hLHl by OrUiido. 

The Muor 'dta> in catucqa«oee=:ChsrIut dies in con- 
Kqueiico. , 

KMlomsnt taltlnc Imrfo fl>-d, fenrlnc the <li<pleasurt'] 
of Cburlei V. - Drlnsiiu fled the court uf Fndsricki 
fearing hia di«p1ea»urc. 

I will only add, neither Rodomant nor Orlando 
tiltiinatoly fudfrii for the iDanHJanghter. Mr, 
J. 0. ilaliivrcll'I'hillipps telU mo that tbo close 
revniblance between Saviulo and Sbakespearo in 
An YoH Like H is new to hiui, and he thinks, aa 
I do, that it is a valuiible discovery forShakespeaAj 
studenU. However, the reseoibliince may, ne^fi 
theless, bavo been pointed out before. 

C. M. Inqlbbt. 

AtbcnBura Club. 

ToitpKKRow. — The siogxiW name of this pnriith 
la Cumberland has been variously derired. The 



26 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 




Biibop of CiirlUIe (sermon after n><itoraliuo of th? 
church 1677) follows the usual eKplrtOuiiuD,*" Tor 
(Brttisti), peu (AdhIo-S»xoo), hmc {DttnnU), thus 
lilvrilly pil'i't; Pelinn nn Oh*.i, and (Ktncliiiliu^' 
tbiit the word mean*) " hill, hid, him.." To which 
thft Rev. C. U. Gem, the preaeot vicar, add^ 
(Trantaeiiont of the OumberUail uid WeHtmora- 
iand Aotiqaah.'ui and ArohflDolotzioI Society), 
" The same proccM in koidR oo at this present day, 
the neitchhoarint; people spenkJDK of 'Turpeobow 
Brow.' " Hut Ibis thwjry is objected to by a writer 
ID the Saturday lievitip. Nor., 1877, on the 
Broaod that the conibineil word would liave beeD 
Pen-tor not Tor-peu, and, reculliDfi the name of 
the Tainoiis ThorfiDQ of the eleveDth ceotury," 
Btiiy^estii "Thotfi(in-how " a* the origionl name. 
My earliest childish recoUeclioas arc connected 
with "Torpcnhow brow" — no jjreat ascout for a 
child to Boale or roll down from ; and [ should 
be gtud if one of your etyiualogical coDtributocH 
could throw light upon the Dame. 

G. L. Frktom. 
San Bemo. 

OnSOtJCTKWOKDSFAOUTHBTKRI.AWltrPAPICRS, 

(See e*" S. ix. 24<j, 405, 478; x. 14.)—" The 10th 
of February last wo had a lost of 3 mens Itue^. In 
their bonte to eea, bavioge a /fc U of Oold frosty 
weather." — The use of the word /real in this con- 
Dexion is unique. It appears to be derircd from 
A.-3. /retau, to Koaw, rub, chafe, and hence from 
ibis word our EogUib /re/, which is quite as 
forcible as our present familiar expression, " a 
tnap of frosty weather/' and embodies n similar 
idetL 

*'A ({reat leake brooko open vpon vs tlie otjibt 
before we weare reitdy to com to sea, so that our 
men did pvmpe 8 or 9 hundred strokes aylaia," — 
X have been unable to tind a similar use of the 
latter word, but it apppitrx evident that it refers 
to the hour-glau, and that the expression was not 
an nnoommon one at tlie time. It was the same 
lui saying that they pamped eight or nine hundred 
tlrokes each ghisc, or an hour. 

**1 Puncheon Iron.** — An iron punch. Cf. Fr. 
pOiHfon, a Hlecl tool of various shapes. 

*'3lb. tbrumbes." — This was linen weaver's 
waste, and was used by ecnuooiicsJ housewlvea for 
darning and sewing. It is u^ed by Shakespeare 
in Midiummcr Night's Drtam, V. i. 392: — 
" Fates, oonifl, corns. 
Coc tbr«ad sod tAr%m" 

"A uker ladle." — This was an instrumont used 
to convey the powder to the batc-end of a caDDon 
loaded with loone powder. 

" i trayue Faltt." — These were Tats for bolding 
train oil. 

" A/ia/>f for the skifT*.'/' — A /rope was a rope 
with lbt> rnds ipliv^d togvlmr, forming a ihiinble 

• As In Mm DsdIOu ms^ lOSlX 




or loop. It woa put around a boat bavitig th(l^ 
loop at the how into which a hnwaer was h<M>ked' 
to draw the boat tbrnutjh the surf to the ebore. 

*' 1 Tiiuusand clawbortl."— The dicCiooane* day 
not tell Ui that at ttiis lime the term claptoar^t \ 
applied to all small bonrda which were : ' - 
but such is the (act.. The word in a r i" I 

clove-board, whii^h appears iw cUthoiirti, 
and RaiiWy ehiphwirti. Wood, in Ntii> 

pTOspici, speakH of oaki " more lU for ti ^ ,. 

others for Miens board." 

Jaues Patsvxr Baxtbi. 

Portland, Maine. U.S. 

FuREIOIf MoMCURNTAL BltASSF^. — I bell* 

that almost every moQumental brass in thtif conntr, 
has been catalogued, and that nearly all of th«a 
have been rubbed, so that if, by any untoward 
chanc«, the originals should perish, u memorial of 
them will still remain. Continental monument! '" 
brasses have received but little ullenUoo lro4 
English arch.-potogisls. There is a list of ajji 
in the Froeitdintjt of the S^iciety of Antiqj 
for May 31, 1883, communicated by the 
W, K. Oreeny. During a rtoeut burned tonr 
Belgium I made notes of such as I saw. It 
be well that these should be recorded in " N. & Q,,^ 
that some one with more time or zeal than I hw^ 
may take rubbings of them. 

Bruges, —Church of St. Jacques, seven braiMi 
in u chapel on north of nave. Church ofNotn 
Dame, two brasaen. 

Les Halles. — Museum, many rubbings of bnnM 
and incised tombstones. One represents a b»b^ 
in swaddling clothes, with Denlh, in the form ofj 
skeleton, standing behind and stabbing it with) 
long arrow ; skulls in the angles where the evaaJ 
geli^tic symbols would have been at an eoxi 
time. The date is 1567. 

Ghent. — Library, two monnmental brmw^ 
woman and a man ; the man in armour^ (^^'i 
mail and partly plate. He holds a drawn swop 
inscribed uloog the blade, nuttRKBANi' DtisDi 

KKritOm UE CBRKBRR NODOM. AvOX. 

EuRRSON.— There Is a curious pusage In Emer- 
son's Englith TraiU, which tthows stmnge ignorance 
or carelesunesson the part of that eminent wttfa ~ 
want oT candour is out of the question In ^neh i 
man. Speaking of religion, he says, "Tii- 
no Socratic prayer, much less any aaiii 
for the Queen's mind ; ask neither for l\:i>t \,;t 
right, but say bluntly, ' Gnint her in heiiUh and 
wc'Uth long to livo.'" It is certainly r-: ' ' 'il 
that Euierson should not havi< knowir 

petition collies afier the words "So ny .i »icc* 

with the grace of Thy Holy Spirit, ih»t thv msj 

alwiiy itii'^iiii- li". Tiii' aiil iii;i! K i\\i '.u Til 

endue ! 

more ni! ■ . . ' 

muUttii viutandti, on behalf ol tbe tt 




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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



27 



the Prayer- Book of the Anivricau Prot««Unt Kpis- 
oapal Ghurcb. Tba prii^'^a^-e waa not corrvcled in 
I unyof lljc* rtlitinnti puMiBhed in Kaierarm'H lifetime, 
nor, of count, haa it hfien in Mr. ^^orley'l rncent 
edition. Edward U. Marshall. 

BrrRLKH Br.oK-Pr.ATt — H«vinf! copies of n 
bnok-pt.-ita of ono of the Cnmily of BoUjIer, nilh 
^^ich I nut coonedt^i] br marriage, I can «ncto9d 
rvmiera of " N. & Q." who may let mo haro 
iinip«d eDT«lope with tbe'r nuiue, At Satidford 
t. Martin, Stwple AstOD, Oxod. The specialty 
[« that tbi^ arrem fnrra pari of a priot cnntttiDiDi; a 
Tiew of Kdstry Church, It has therefore some 
furlber iutereat to collectnni to Kent. 

(Rer.) K. Marshall. 



FaMvcn 



<Btirrtr<. 

..:. -....,g,| oorroapon'itfnu Jeatrioe information 
rt of only prirate interert, to affix tlii"ir 
r--»«« to tiifxr .jueriM, in order tliiti ibc 

moj b« addresMd to them direct. 



I 



BWiRKNnAoii, Okmmi Pasb. — Cun any of 
• rudf rfl li'iVB me (tome piirticnlnra of h tmtjedy 

fibt G*rman poet Werner cjilled The TuwUij' 
fifutih of Pthniary, the Bcene of which, I under- 
<Uod, u laid at the little inu at Schwarenbach, at 
fch« top of the Genitui Pius } All the yuiJe^booki 
tptalc of the play u " Weroer'a K^^iomy tragedy," 
bat give no notioa of the plot or iiiiy of ita inci- 
d«nl«. Haa it been truoAlated lato Knj^Ush ; if so, 
hy whom, aod where published } JL A. W. 

Dubtio. 

[Tb* tit>rf of TJ^e Tti-enty-faurth of Ftlritary il a 
lHvrfkI« r«onrJ of driTTifsHc 'fatality wetgtntii; qmu a 
*■■"■ ' "■' 'le niiiiied him thricB been mirkfu by a 
" cr domestic raunier. Worticr, wIioh 

to myitiL-Um, InsKtii the Hubject with 

Inplti'it /«iLli. •ml »li'>Mr« tlie biJeous and uncot3iiuemble 
crnwlb '>( sfllf-buii'-ilten crime. The whole 10 a night- 
tDsre. Wo Irnon u( d<j Enftliah veninn (if tlif!^>l«y. A 
ft*ucU rendering, in i»bicb a fourth and (rrtnotudin); 
BiiirJrr ii *'t| ppft»ed, and the jiieco ends with a tafc 
pa" I the t^rhhlp annlTcr^ttrT und a ^uriiK>"e<l 

r»i I . .inily doftm. wa« pindnccd at thi- Vatnle- 

»nit .vri«, in 18(51- WVrnrr. **lii> Into in life 

hcc: I Vt Uie Cktli'^lir' relttii'in )ui<l vmbmccil 

tht •< the pne<tbnod. Pijahled the 24th 

nf ' '.If <'f bii tnutber'* death, ha 

R)a1: In btn ConffitioK* he dcclkteit. 

wiib ^dse than it ofi»n poBKavtd. that 

if aDT otit rrf a/d* liitii aa a matlraan ha it ritht, but if 
ht ad«li tliat he t« a knare he liirs.'] 

*'pATrr j4>iOA cm uanis." — Whcie ia this 
|door4md inacriptiool A. B. C. 

eoPTiMH^w "Book or thr CnuRCH."— U has 
d to thift work that the re- 
ccD uppcnded. Friendfi hove 
ij'-jitu iiti-j -int'iieit, notnbly Cborlefl Butler. 
CoaU the n(erextc«s nuw he furnished out of any 



exlfltiDK coramon-plAce hooka left by Southeyf 
Ilia fuoliah reason* for omittinf; them uppeAf ut 
lar^e in bi« Kindu-ict, pp. 42-3. 

0. A. Ward. 
Darerfltock Trill. 

SoLowox pKKKr,-Oan any one intcreAlid in 
the fate of Ihft Frrnch Prntftfttant refn^eea give mt 
any iuforinution respoctinn ^suhminn Penny, whoaaj 
name appears in A^n^wV Fraich ProUiUint ExiUa* 
as a director of the French Honpitul in London 
io the ye.tr 1718 f I shall also he (;ltul to tearo 
whether Nlchnlaji Penny, who was Dean of Lich- 
field 1731-45, belonged to the »atne family. 
The name U supposed to hftTe been originally 
PcnnL^e. H. W. F. H. 

StUAWDKHRT LrAVM IK THIt DlTCAL Ct)nON|[T. 

— 1 was anked the oriffin of this the other day by 
a friend, hub could not answer tho qtiestion, aoaj 
hitherto have been unable to dixcover why aDJl 
when the leaves were first inserted in the roronet.| 
I should be obliged if any reiwler of " N. & Q." 
could enlighten me. Edward It, VrvTAS. 

[Ac S*!- ?. ii. 1'2!> a fimUar query in prO|iounde<). To 
tliU (ri(" 8. V 75) Mr. V. Kulb replied, dcnjinK that the 
tr«f(itl fliral omamenti of duoal eoronetd are ftmwbvrry 
leare*, and itatinic that tlie quealion of Jntereit is. why 
iu)d rin wliote Authority tbey were tn 'tylcd. At &"' S. 
xii. 1U >[)i. J. OitCKCiiiLL 81KIJI Rup|»lie4 nn extmrt 
from tbfl GfHtieman'i Moffoiini «f July, IbTiJ. dealtnc ■ 
with the whole question, and aswrtinK that the c«t]-| 
veotionni lenTf^a uted to decumle eoruneta were not ' 
oriKinKlly called strawberry leaves, aod were at fittt rery 
unlilts them. J 

Laror Fossil Etm, — In any collection nf 
fotsila of different ages I seem to find that what- 
ever eyes existed before the oolite or Wenldeo 
period were larger than those of corresponding 
iinininls of any later time. Is that so ; and. if a 
general fact, bus any theory been suggested as a 
reaton ? E. Ll O. 

Alpxa'N'dru Smith.— Cjn any of your readert 
refer me to any memoir, »ketoh, nr ohttunry noticoj 
of Alexander Smith, author of A Lift Drama &nA 
other poEnis f Edward C. Wuitkiiurst. 

(gee Aljibone. Crit'xal DH'lionAry of J^nijl\»h LiUra- 
ture ; Vajtereari, JHctioinnirt Ifntrcrul dr» Cuntsm- 
pvrtu)u, ed.lt}5S ; and Mtno/tin 7'im«,sereiitb edition.] 

TonACCo. — Tn the Dutritt Jtailwaif OuitU to 
the HeaUh Ex}t.iitUion I 6nd it stated as *'aa 
historical fact" that "Capt. WilliAUi Myddelton, 
brother of Sir Ilu;;h, of New River celebrity, wna 
the first who smoked tobacco in London," The 
italics are reproduced from the 6'inVfs. Can tbil 
statement be verified T FouoSDS. 

Booth, OniEFjrsTiCK ijiIftKLAWD.— TheRiifht 
Hon. Sir Riibert B'loth, Knt., who (koiuhted jit 
Whiteliall May 15, 106H) appe.int to have been a 
puzzle to Le Neve, was, Um}h Oburles IL, Chief 



ita 



28 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



JaaticD of th« Common Pleas in Ireliind, He 
wjkB eldest SOD of Robert Booth, of SAlford, Eaq. 
(bencher of Gray's Fno) ; was edncoted at the 
Manchester GniDiniar School (ander Sir. Brid- 
oake, nftenrnrdfi Biibop of Cbichestcr), and ul St, 
John's Collcire, Ciinibndi;^, vbere he wax itdtnitted 
September 2ii, )044,nt the nee of Dioeteen. Ue 
became a member of Gmv's Ion, and, nfier bciofi; 
one of the justices of the court uborc mentioned, 
was appointed Chief J a ttioe— probably in 16G8. 
I have fall (impiibliibed) purticittnrs of his an- 
OC(tt^,as aino particulars of the SiUfonl and neiKb- 
booriDg properties in which be was iotereafed, in- 
cludioK the right of prenentation to Trinity Cbiipel, 
Salford, founded by bta grandfather. He wan 
married twice, hut I am not sure which was hia 
earlier nuuTiafte^ viz., to Mary, danfiht«r of 
Bpencer Potts, of Chal(;roTe, co. Bedford, K^q., 
and to Sawn, eldest daughter of Benry Oxendee, 
of Dene, co. Kent, Ksq., afterwards (in 167$) 
created a baronet. Sir Robert i.i incidentally 
meationed by Gwillini in connexion with the 
famiiy arms. (By ihe way, whiit was this herald's 
authority for stating that the jud((e vraa descended 
from the knightly Booths of Dunham Masseyt) 
Can any of your correspondents refer me to a Life 
or p««rtioii1«r account of the j'ldf^, and aUo to 
the oritjinal authorities as to which was his earlier 
marriAge, and tut to whether it was by his wife 
Susan alone that he had iasne I A full abstract 
of his will would be of vulue. I am aware of one 
printed pedigree ; bat tbnt is, to say the least, not 
conclusive. C. T. Tallkst-Batkvaw. 

24, nrown Street. Manchester. 

DoHKSDAT Oak.— There is an oak treo in the 
park attached to Berkeley Custle, Gloacestenhire, 
called the Domesday 0>ik. It is said to be men- 
tioned in tho ('onqueror'a suryey. la this so 1 I 
Imto looked for it, and been unable to tind it 
there. Ahoh. 

"LoSB AS nODR IK THK MORNISO AND TOtI 
WItL DB ALL DAT HPSTIXO IT." — In One of the 
maiiaziaes for June I find the nbore given as a 
" Whatcloiao prorerb." Ought it not, however, 
to bs Horihed to Dr. Johnson I 

CtTTaUKTlT BkDIL 

PsrrKR-CfAiin. — Can any one cire mean iontanco 
of a *' pepper-f^irb " as an heraldic chaTgo 1 Cadod 
Jsck-ion, in hi^ interesting Guittt ia FarUi^h 
Hunygrford, 1879, snys that the ffarb in the 
Hungt'rford crc^t is c'^uietinies called a psppvr- 
H»Tb. and qiinti"* Flurk**** Arninry and Sir Richard 
8t. Ouorgti (1047) lies. Be also calls 

nttentina to thn i » of Walter, Lord 

Uoo^prford, < ■• n<> juitly renmrki, the 

Karb "haa a < i for a whcattheaf, It ti 

rathor tlial ci - uj.mi.o of peppercorns than of 
gmina of wheat In the fur." Alb this garb was 



adopted from the ormsinf the PeTfiTolli (three ewbi 
and a chieO, I hnve no doubt that the re««niblattoi 
between the word intii-r* and the Grst twonyllabli 
of Peverell wiw sufficiently great to make a pepp " 
garb u witiaTuitory rebus on the name of 
family. Ia the charge bom* by any urb^r ? 

Enmntn M. Botxi. 

"Gbxtluman- by Act or PAnLiAMJtxT."- 
Amoni;»t the contemptuoni t*mi3 applirnl te 
solicitors (and formorly to attorneys) i 'l| 

they are onlv "centlemen by Act of !' 
How is this expUinod I I know of it ■ .\-i 
biting to the point, and there is qo don 
attorneys practised ia the courts before ib*rc 
any imperial legislation alftH-linn them. The 
title of ft solicitor ia "John Smith, Gen 
one of the Saliuitors of Her Mnjpiiy'i S 
Conrt of Judimture," In officml docuii 
solicitor ia deaigmited "Grentlpumn," as a biml 
ia designated " E«quire'*: but whether the * 
recognize these ranks is not cl«:>r. 

FRKDEtiicic E. Sawtbr. 

Brighton. 

flnrormution bMrioR more orlMs (JirMtlr uprtn iUa 

inn:jirv msv bt- fnuml In l" M. i. H3. "" ' ■"' ' ■ 

2*-t3. .^'''H.'lii. 4SP; it. 'i\^. -'U'; r. 
hint, under diU'oraut liuada, obcwhoru i ' 

Th« MACDOHALtM OP Glkwcob — Whcr* can 
T find an authentic history of the Mscdonalds of 
Glencoe 1 J. H. 

IlADDoy M3S. — Where and bow can Iheie 
MSS. be seen 1 H. a 

Hand - wovRS Links. — Can any of yotit 
readers tell me when and where hand-fpun and 
hand-woven linen vias la.it proiiuced io England, 
and refer me to any books on the subject J 

SriTALFlKLDa, 

Rthkes.— Can any reader of "N. & Q* 
fonu me where I bare litely read of some qai 
rhyme* put op "ver h country oobbler's sk 
They are somewhat similar in chsnid«r to 
following, which hare Inog been over thv sfaop| 
one Mr. Siiuuions, a shoemaker at Oxttdg ; 

Surrey : — 

•* You all niBtt know 

' I lloll't MlfMM 

To rri"'- ' '"-Mil 

Hot'o iioes. 

Mj i. 

My 

My •. 

Bo ]-i'.j ,. .-. I - 1. 

ARTotiR T. O. Lkvwok Qom 

Rapid MANrrAt-nmit.- T' 
WHS shwrwl at Newbuty. 
apiin int.<i yarn, ^ 
in the day. I 
wh«r* may be louuu .. ^--^ 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



29 



Kr...vL- 



■ r.^^ 



■ — Whnt Grecian ruler hod 
tt -I _' liiB wife, which wih in 

r*n ri>, nnd bod secret springx 

wh I :io*n who Cuiiclied it, nnd iortnentcd 

Uici : trp b:itbe<i poiDta 7 

JoHS TtiPHAM. 

[tf not thn itory coicpoanJcd f>tjm wkitt u ti>t(l of 
th« tMor Ilinfi;«iu« Kiitl llii! iturrniceiit af excculinti 
known in InJj- u ibn nunfujyi, ttiil in ^cotUnd u tbe 

At.t!?r4!r&(tK M. OirL.-! tbnll be obligwl for 
Enf* 'Hceroibi^ the nboTe nnd concirtiiDit 

ft '> n bjr bim, cnlillcit i^vnjini fvr Be- 

I li€riHg. (.an ibo work in queslion be ohtiUiKyl / 

J. TnsrEa. 

Fji«TT.r OF Hat ot Caqckktowrrs awd 
Bb .— Particulan of pedigree and mar- 

[ rb;. ;.'L'rwickaUire fainiJy doaired by 

J. R Okavex. 
Ktrkwmll, Orkoej. 

i*s CoLLKcnoya, CO. SrrrnLK.— In whose 
_ ion 13 the voluoae coDtaiDing the cnllections 

of tbt Babersh btindred P AtiTin.ru Clerk. 

PtATsTBiiTE. — Near Tauoton, nnd within the 

limJU (if the old priory demetne, this name oocun 

c-'TiTi.tii.M irith a mesauuse, a.d. 1545. Ab 

■ lo be a comiptioD of I'alaee Slrvut, 

wi(b dntoa will oblige. The prefix 

r to that iu La Plcystow (a.v. 

i 137 . . e^d by White, and latterly known aa 

[ [k« ricator, Hi Sdbome, which he finyi was always 

\tatd u a place fur play and recrenlion. 

Ebwi.v Slopbsc 
^qntun. 

Old pLiYniM.9, — What bus heeonie of the 
^exlnordioary collection of old playbills which wan 
preoerrtd in the Lord OhntuberlAin's office I I 
I oav« a oMphe iinprcs^ioo that it was offWred for 
I «!»' - a few years »go. If w, wbi-o tind 

I by ! wbero can the playbills now he in- 

, apecicl 1 J. B. D. 

ni = -ri-n,T or Ptrsuc Mkettnos, — I am wanting 
>n en the hiAtory of public meetings, the 
Uitm» they bare takf<o in past tiroes, with 
I lui accouttlof tiie most noteworthy ones in Enf^land. 

P. U. B, 

ZfOrr KovK, or OoLDSMirn.— I am the owner 

I of a book call'-'l '* Tn'mn/i/i of litnevt/iencf ; or, 

I tka nUUrry (./ I'tfN. By the Author of 

Tfn FiVir n?' .1 Berlin, sold by August 

I>iii joti ever hear such a hook 

<^Mf»miih: or ts it 5 fmnd and 

■rj J it I in Ko);lisfa, size IGmo., 

bi t" Ti KfKiil pn'Mfrvuliou, and 

Mif.|.;iKe, Somcof Guldsniith'fl 

-> a Unt noT«l by him, bat none 



of Ibcm ever has seen it. Do you knov of any one 
posfleming a copy ? If not-, wbnt would he the vntue 
of it tt« a litemrv ruriosily I 8orao of ynnr cnm*- 
Rpondeota tuny he uhle to throw some li;;ht. no the 
subject; if sOt I shall be bnppy to corrrnpond with 
tbon. Thomas Poultuxt, 

I'.', St Paul 8tr««t, Ballimon, C.S. 

A SHiKSPWUlAX QiTEBTlOK. — Certain colfl- 
cidencei with n-$^rd to im iiucient ln»cript[< 
suggest the inquiry. Cnn Shakespcnre have bMB^ 
in any WHy connectwi with Ela^kliealh or Lcef* 
In the old churchyrird of Lee, Kf^nt-, there in nn 
imcription taken from what wji^occe ft Gno murl-tld 
tomb erected in mrmory of Bryao Anslye, Eh.j,, 
ODO of Queen Gliziibelh'x geotleuieo peiiHioofM, 
and lessee of KitlbnMik Manor from 1^77 till hifi 
death in 1604. It wax rAiAfw) by his third and 
yonoftMt daughter, Oordell or Cotdelia, and. aft 
IfiTtni; some partionhm aa t<i other meuihers of 
family, (joes on lo state: — 

" Oordell, the youuf e«t P^ueh*^, «t her own pn>i 
OOSt and c)iftr<)i:Ba, in f\:r: i ' hpr Dutll 

loTo uniii hvr Ffttlicr nn I - Moouojc: 

ta be erected f<ir tl>e p<'r[ ' : their name. 

AgairiMl tht inicratcful luture 
Of 0»'li»iouB rimo. 
Ncu [*rituu». riPC oltimui^ 
MtOti Aiite cesneriiiit, et 
OmiiA« Rrquentur." 

If Shaketpeare over saw this sloae or knew ll 
family, be mny have erected a tuore laaiiog 
menioritil of this loving dani:hter in the story of 
atiother Cordelia, like her the youngest nnd most 
dutiful of three. It is worthy of remark also that 
the scene of Leur's wnnderiogs is a heath, *' within 
ft mile or two on the way to Dover." Query, 
Bliiclchenth 1 One of the chief characters in tbfi 
piny bfftrs the name of Kent, Another cireumstanoB 
T mention wttb some bestUitioo, hecaiiNe if there 
is anything in it some learned Shakeipeiirian mnat 
have observed it before now. The Cordelia of thia 
inscription Wnime the wife of a very distinguished 
mnn, William Harvey, a famous soldier in the 
dayioflbe Spanish Armada, who for his service 
in various ways waa created Boron Hcrvey of Kid- 
brook. His initials recall to mind the niyoterious 
^lr. W. II. to whom Shakeepcarv dedicated bis 
sonnets, and wboae identity baa long perplexed 
student^, M. Ai S. M. 

Blaokbeotb. 

BrplUtf. 

SEKJKANTS- niNaS. 
(e*** S. ix. 446, 611.) 
The interesting ijucstion which Mb, Octavitj 
MuROAN hns raised — viz., What hiu become of all 
the Serjeants' riDgB?— 1« woU worthy of being Ten- 
lUated ; and w Mna ScARi.Brr ha5 done me the 
honotir to refer to the " funeral eermoa" over the 



^tf^tf 



30 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



f6'*S.XJiaTlf,»M. 



■erjennto which I delirered \b 1S77 in Serj^nnts' 
tnn Hall before the London uid Mi^Mletiex 
Arcliti.>T>tr>^ical Soclf^ty, I riik le4Te to contiDiie the 
diKU'iaioa of it, Fori«^cue, the leoroed author of 
the treatise Di Lindihut Cc^m Anyl\<r, becania 
a Mrjeant io 1-1:2!), unit confiJes to us the fact 
that his bid for gold rin)(3 cam^ to 50{. 
Wynne, the lenraed utithor of «on»e tMct^ oq Ug-il 
aattqiiitiea, beoame n Berjwot in 1736, in company 
with thirteen f»ther«, and sUtw that they sh;ire<l 
nnioni; them the Cint of l,-t'>t* rinjjs, amounting 
to 773t, beside? what every Serjeant had made 
on bin prirate account. In ISO!), when Mr. Pcck- 
wlll and Mr. Frere becitne MriPiata, they gave 
sixty t\ani, which cost 03/. 19i. iki. 

The rioii* appear to have btjen of plain gold, 
differinf; from &ich oth«*r in weii^ht, and eon- 
■eqiienliy in Viiliie, which was carefully Ljraduated 
aooordiDi{ to the drtfniiy of the recipient. The 
Tftlue of the riiii; whtoh ho ^.\te to tbe kint; ia not 
meatianed by Portesciie, biit be tells ni that 
"to e«ry princ* o( t'lo blool, da'tc, an-I iircIiI>i*lio? 
proietit. to chd LijrJ Cii«noellor omt t^) tlio L>r<l Trea- 
aurer, eirjli aerjfiknt fi*»e "i rin^ worili 1/. fit. 8jt. Tu 
every onH in 1 bi»hip. ti iUt K -cpor of tha Privy Ssal, 
eicb Clii-f Jmli-!9 awl tUu Cliiof B«ron. • rinn worth 1/. 
T(i erpf)' otu^r Linl nt P4rlia>ii>-nt, abbot, prrUte, «nd 
knight, ((} th« M«i:«r "f thi Rilit, ani «verv jmtict, a 
riii^ W'jrtti one ui«rlc. To erery Baron of the ExeUequar, 
cb«nil)«rUtii, and courtisr in iraitniff on tho kimr, k rin; 
uroportioiiwe in nlno tn tlie rank or the recioient. 
Evrrr elrrk, etprciilly in ths Coart of Common Plea.«, 
will have * r'lne conremeiil t'lbii deitr««. The MrjMnta 
alw preaent riQui Co their friciidi and sciaainCancef." 

At a cttU io 1A55, the rin^ far tlii> kioi{ and qtieen 
(Philip ond Mary) were worth 3^ (it, Sd. each; 
those fonhe LordChnncellor and other hii;hoffioers, 
1/.: for the judges, 16^; the Barons of the Gx- 
oheqrier, 14f. ; and so on down to the iixteen 
filiiceni, whi) received rings worth 2a. 6i. moh. 

Tbt! Hpeuiality of these rin^ is la the mottoes 
engraved upon them. Tbe earliettC recorde<i is 
that of Sic J. Fmeux in URA, "Suic quisque 
fortuoa? faher"; tbe next thnt of Serjeant fafter- 
wards Chief Justice) Montii;;ii in 1531, " .'K^oitaa 
justitia nerma"; that of 1517, " Pleb» sine le^fo 
rviit"; and that of 1577, "Lex reRii praiiidium." 
Lists of tbe mottoes are ^'iven in tbe fifth volume 
of the AiMt series of " N. A: Q.," and mure cttm- 
pletcly in the late Mr. Posa's admirable work, Thi 
Liva of Vu Jvi^is. From this it appenra tbat, in 
addi'.iou to tbo>e juH named, 108 mottJ>e9 have 
been recordetl. its follows : Jatnei I., 1 : Charles I.. 
13 ; Charles U,, 8 ; Jonios 11., 4 ; William III, 
B ; Anne, 3 ; Oeorije T., 3 ; Gwrg.! TI , II ; Oeortie 
III., 64; George IV., 11; William IV., ft; 

Victoria, 49. There ihonld, nf - ' 

•jkfoiintm Iff each uf tliese in the t 

ar" 

of , 
.Biutom, whteh at noe time |ireviulod, of alt tbo 






^erjeant^ nt the same oreation uitni* th# 
motto. That on the oocaiion nf the sp1i*a(lii 
creation of fourteen aerjeanta in tOGt) was itn in 
f;enioaa chronogram ulludrni; to the re^tomtion nf 
Charlea IL, ** oDeit CiroLV^ M^i:nVt.'' Thi» 
riuji^ at the creation of Serjeant Wynne and ol.hnr<i 
io 173fi bore the motto, *' Nnnqu.uti IiWru< 
tcratim"; and the eiKhl rini;?! then provide^! fnrtbo 
queen and princes and prinwses were finely 
p^>lij4bed and the motto enamelled, 

In 1787 tbe practice of K'^inK ^os? was re- 
trenched, and thoM for the jud^e:), ^ " "-' 
attorneys were disc-jntinaod. This *<. 
threat reduction in number and cost I bi 
mentioDed »t the edi of 1S4»3. By the time nir 
learned friend Mr. Serjeant Tindal Atkin4.^n 
to'tk upon him the state and de;{rM, all preacuLi- 
tion of rin;4s in open courC had ceased, and tbe 
rinys were forwarde<I priVa'ely by the jciVtfller t** 
the masters of tbe C>urt cif Common Pipai and 
the personal friends of the new serjeant, the Lnrd 
Chancellor receivini; the queen's rin^; and his own 
from the binds of the serjeaot in bis lordship's 
prirate ro^m. 

The aerjeanta who, like Mr. Serjcai' ^ '|-■ 
reKrettbe virtual and pmctiiuI,thouiih n 
abfjlition of their order (for it would be 
patent for Her Majesty now, if so advt- 
a writ commiindint; any onmber of K 
take npon themselves the atate and •' 
seqeant-at-law), must feel, when they 
npon the gradual neglect and disuse ' 
jeantt themselves of iheir ancient on - 
their ancient sarnient*. thnt it has bod or.hi^ 
to do with the oatamities that have fallen 
them. [ have b^n a tittle disappointed tn &q 
in my I*^arne<I friend's interi'stioi; book on 
Order of the Coif, junt publiabed, so ^tlij^ht a ref^ 
enoe tu this question of rioi^, nnd, Indved, Ui ma 
other matters in respect of wbicb the learned 
jeant must have access to viisl stores of usefl 
lafonnatiuQ. I only hope he bos not said his ■ 
word u|xin theae subjecN. 

Tbe question wliicb Mo. OCTAV|C>' MrtKCiJ 
has T.aised still awaits ica anawer. 
handreds of rings in the royal colb/- 
mtut be tfaoniuinds in private potaes9tr)n; 
are very rarely met with. All can bar 
been melted down, though many mny have 

I muHt a<!d a word of cinLr»d".'i.ion lo j*\ 
i«st«f!inijwt ciirrcHprvndeot M< 
" Wii know ihf coif of (1/ 
duiitjncd to bido tbe tonsure i,'. 
li)U^' bi'L'U conviuucd that Ibis C" 



tin|[ntahinj{ mark oi the wrjennt was alva; 




NOTES AND QUERIES. 



SI 



I «f esry and di«pftng«rDent to the riral prao- 
lilioaen. Thiu Spvliiian coatrnsta the dootora 
"tedentes pileati " with Uie eerjejiota "Rinntes 
»b*ffne piltti honiiri* seii ottyf.i"; «nd ihe Musters 
ia i hnncvry in tlioir '* case " urce that the mrjeiiDt 
mu»t bo *• betrtitfiuled, save thut he ia .allijwud u 
t]'joTf« (or n oii<lil cjppd a» it ateniAth) a^fninst thd 
oold ": while tiw serjwiQl^j retort thut Iht-y " iuat 
vvor their ootf in tb« king** presence." 

E. W. Bkidruok. 
In the denrth of infonnntioQ »lx>ut these rtn^9, 
it may b^ coorenieot to put on record ilut the 
rootto«:i on lh<? ri^^f^ i;'**'i hy the sofje^nts nliiiiit 
th« end nf the i^vvotveaih cenrury and ths bc- 
Cinnkuf; o( the ei^ihteenth are n^ivilly iriren in Nitr- 
etiwiiM Ltjttrfll's ttinry. W. P. CocRTyEr. 

12. <^uc«n Anne'i Gat«. 

Therp are no (wrjeaata* riogi in the pliit«-room 
k1 Windsor Owtle, nor ia there any ".nl^r (.i«do 
of moorniDij or rtth*r rinan. PosMbly Mb. 
MoROAK nmy refer tf> a ({old shItit with the lidi 
of prcMOtaliuD sonfT-boXM introduced. 

HitltEr K. POTOOHBT. 



rAQCOftni (6^ S. X. i).~lituiaqutmtre ii a 
pnuter'4 error for ra$taqHoin. The word 
iDrMiH from the PnUit Royal faroa of te Brinillm 
»boot fourteen or fifteen years aK^,and waa first used 
for rich Sotiih Ainericans, hat now for all non- 
fioMpmn foreigners, for whom it is the only 
""^^ French designation. D. 

hran-sKis .T-.itBKR (a^ S. ix. 9, f.3, 73).— 
P»fhM.|M ihn fMlI..win(( extract from Ltither'a CoWo- 
I may li" Ao<:e^it:il»le to the readers of '*N. & Q.," 
^only beiLiiise it firoves Ihnt the fable about the 
ikin WHS current nearly ACiQ years ^^0, but also 
^b^eauie it «hows Luther's fondness forsuch things : 

*' T>i9 FnWcS of EfTip {anid Imth^r) might to ho tmni- 
I Uttd ioto hi)cl> Dutcti. nnd l>muf;lit fln^ly into orJor ; 
I for rtno m«n frmd- »>"t tl>fi( h<>i>l[, but many ureat t'co|<le 

«l all time" in »1 , !c ■ purt Ihtreof So fur 

M I «nk •l.te r j, nezt unto tlit Bible, wo 

tuve t,<. I v-'.i.r I :i,<. Work* of C»to. and the 

' y«l< I'jr Mieir wnliiiif»»re bittfr Ihnn ikll the 

I *•*•' ■' "f t>ie Pliili'9oi»h«rf anJ L«wj«r*, 

' At li-ni I.I.I.'.- i.i" - - ' ■ i the f«lil.< conc^rninL* the 
' W"lf nri'l lh5 ^1 ti'J kIm tbiM plcaisnt fable. 

I «»b"«c uioml )■ .,:jt avf not tfrfwh-tr :<i lit 

lijK»i#A. A Lion .^kllij.l ijiit.' bini iritu liti tlcn (wherein 
[ WM ■ »erT «»il Miri.r and allnk) omiiv beeiu : Nr»w lie 
[uhe.l the Wolf h-.w he liked hi* R^y*l Pejeoe > The 
|Wulf an*were<1 and wld, • |t, ilinkcth cril herein : 
11«ni>i- I.jori fl*w nr-Anth* Wolf, iitid tt.rtt him in piece*. 
"^^ I. Art hr>w lie liked if. f The 

< d Al the Woir.i death ami 
Nl !■. natter, ho Mid, O rav 

~\ itoth hero exceniinir well. But 

"**" ' th" A««. wnU tore hlni nUn in 

"X hi)w it liked him t 

■ cold, thjit I on 
-"T. It M n<it good i<» 
iri';*'^ tr-i" T-iHTi(,{ t„ry(hm^ Thm hn became wiw 



by other men'i hurt*, io krofdnx hia tongue. He rclate4 
1- ■' •. • "(* knnthrr ftble, hgain^t preaTinipUoo nnd 
I : a.>id. One b <u{tht » Bcnr> ikin, and |<iiiil 

T the Rear vax killed or taken; whcn>iii><>n 

he said. Let no inan cut away an old coat until he bare 
a new."— Lmbor'i CuWov«i«, ItiSi, p. 112. 

R. R. 
Batten. Lineotiuhlrfl. 

Ujni (0** B. ix. -OT).— I fear wo shall not tf^t 
much more iuformiktion m to thi4 wor). I pre- 
sume the reason why Mr. Wright toi.k the word 
htt;gtf4$4 lii better snitcd to the Lnt. Hsipfmna (hun 
to the L*t. parctK was becnn-ie we fin-i elwwbero 
the entry *' Ereni% hrtyUi": and it it c^rtrtinly 
correct to say that Tisipbooa was one nf the Erinvea 
or Ftirie<*. Hence it is at ooce proved thut the 
HUpponilion, even if anneeded here, is far fruiu 
batelesa. 

The best way in to quote all the entries in full. 
The wnnl occurs in the ^loBsaries not nine tituefi, 
but tUven times, nnd it is best to arrange the 
Ktntenienta in order of date. They are as fullnwa. 
In the ei^hth cenhuy : SnnuiHidiM, haehtlute ; 
Furia, huehtis; Kr^nw, furia (with /loe^f added 
in II Inter hand); Strigtit hactttis. 

In the tenth century : PyMonuM, hellerune, 
»el hici^lease ; TinpHona^ woelcyrre ; Parctv, 
htfi;terae (the pnir of kI^^m supposed by Mr. 
Wn^ht to be transposed). 

Id the eleventh century : I^renu, hieztca ; 
J?unicnid<«, ha^fftease; Fiirttf, haegtewe; FurinrHUi^ 
btejjteasa ; and yet again, i^'uriarum, h^^tesiiu.. 
Ic would seem from this that the correct nom>' 
sinp. is ha<Ktu, later kacgtis, h<xgiis; whiUt 
h(.rgUit4 represents the pluml and ucu:tsioonlly the 
8ini{ii)ar, perhaps in an obliqne c/ue. Sclmde 
Kive-) the O.H.O. form as hntjaxumty which wa* 
afterward>t contracted to A42u»a, M.U.O. htcttf 
mod. G. Iftxe, 

Mr. MATnew hai cleared the way as to aonia . 
points. It may now bo accepted as certain thN 
ibc Da. /ttia^dii, a lizsrd, is the same as the O.* 
Eidtchat; it may be added that the A.S. ia 
mthtxt, and thiit the provincial K. is atk or urj2:, 
all in the sense of lizard or newL On the other 
hand, hag is short for h<rgtt»M or Atrylu, and the 
co|;nate G. a-ord is HtxiL But it does not follow 
ihiil luvj-t-tM, if derived from ha^'i, would mean 
■*a female hedue." hecau'to the -t- miKht ciwily 
make all the dilfercuce, ami rendf^r the aubstan- 
lire periooal. The real difHoulty is to explain 
this -f-, ant], at the same time, (he O. •.'!-. The 
only three opinions worth conniderinfi; are ihoae 
Kiren by Scbade. These are (t) the notion of 
Oriturn, that tlierfl in a connexion with the Icet 
hagr, wilt*; (2) the notion of Welgand (adopted . 
by iityaeir), that it ia connected with A.-S. lus^Oj 
a hedge ; and (3) the ingenious sn^gestion, due 
to Heyne, that the word means *' apoiler of the 
haw or encloRure stored with corn, Ac,** Ibe 



32 




NOTES AND QUERIES. 



|fl*S. X. JnTUX 



anfRx beinc allied to A.-S, itosu^ harm, damaffe. 
The siiedestioQ of Grimm cAonot well it^nd, for 
hagr has not nt nil the scnttf of "wise," it ia 
merely handy, iikiirul, nod the auflSx is left with- 
out even an attempt at reeardinft it. 

Both the other BtigKestion? aprpe in referring 
the word to A.-S. haijn, onr hnre ; hawe i« uwd in 
Chaiicfr to nipan a f;irniTnrd, a (act worth nolinf;. 
P«rhn|M we shall never (jet any fiirtht-r than thi". 
Meanwhile, the Bense EUfyjented by Beyoeisjust 
pQitiiible. The difficulty clearly re«ide» in the 
suffix, ppeit tit in eftrly A.-S., and -zmta in 
O.HG., and the BufBt is chiefly difficult becnu«e 
it ii found nowhere el^ie. The suffix in G. Eidf^ehse 
is quite a different thintr, thouf^h that is nlnioct 
equally obscure. The Gothic Bpelling of Ridfeh%e 
would have been n/ji-Oiaiso ; the !»iiiice«ted foime 
is " HorpenN^piniile," t. c. snake t«hnpeJ like a 
spindle ; see Schndp, a. v. *' Ei^ideh-HfL" 

It uiu<it not he omitted that there is a passage 
in the A.-S, Ltfxhdom*^ \\\. 54, where the word 
hftgitifctjij gen. Ring., from nom. hfrgUstf, clearly 
ineana "of a witch" or '*of a hug." Thus the 
problem of the etymology of hag is definitely 
Dtirrowed to the qnestion, What is the sense of 
the wiffix -UiM or -tit f Po^ihly it is relsted to 
Skt. diUhaija^ to harm. Waltkr W. Skkat. 

SrnRions KoiTinNs of Wsll-kwowh Poems 
(6* 8. tx. '165). — I folly sympathize with Mr. 
Ai.rnBi> Wallis's wish to rescue from oblirion.Bo 
far as possible, the literary prodactions of H. H ilia's 
press. This early Catnach was an industrious pro. 
rider of cheap literature, if I may judge from the 
contents of a small Tolume in my lihrary. The 
pieces it contains are as follows: — 

MMlaraUon Diixilay'd : a Poem. " Neq : tempore in 
alio e*ie qoi^at duphci naturA, It oorpore bino Ex atietii- 
genii^i(?inbris ci'mpncti p'>t«8t«i." — I«uorct., 1th. 5, Bj 
tlie Aiitlinr iif Faction. Diivlitj/tf. London. l*rtnte>l aod 
8o1(l liY H. Ililb, ill Black-fiyan!, near the Wttor-i-idcr, 
1709. 'I'v. 16. 

The Duel of the Stairt : » Poem. Written by llie 
Honoumtle Sir Itobert Uowi\rd. Tosetber with an 
Kpiitle to the Antlmr, Ht Mr. John Drydcn. London, 
Printed Bntl S<}\d tiv H.'IIills, in Blackfrynrs, dcrt the 
Wiii'"r-si<io. l""£t. Vi*. 16. 

The Plague nr Atbeni wbich liapcned in the Second 
Year of the PcL-punneBian War, Kir*t <Je§cribed in 
Orttk by TbiicTdiuei, then in Latin by LucruCiua, lince 
atteniptod in 'En4)ti>\ by the Uigbt KcTf-rend Fatlicr (n 
Ood 1 1trimna Lurd Iti'bop of Rochester. Londati, Printed 
by H. Hills, iu Blnck-rrjtri, near the Water-ilde, 170&. 
Pp. 'Ii. 

Page Ifi ia blank, with this notice, " Reader, 
through inisUke of the Press, a page being Trans- 
pos'd, you are dfsir'd to turn over leaf." 

An F.lonj on llie Author «<f tlic Trup-boni-Kngllsh- 
3!»n. with Hh EftMy on tht^ liktc Stnrni. Ity tlic Autbor 
of thr IfyiKH lo !/•€ I'tUory. l,i>nduD, Printed in tbe 
Year 5705!. Pp. ^4. 

Though "anonymoiu," IhU is avidentlj one of 
HiUs'a prodticttont. 



Lueretiat: a Pnem acalnit tba Fe«7 of Dealki 
an Ode in Memory of tbe .\cc«mi>li4ti'<l To«nc L 
Mm, Ann KilIi|BTew, Kxecllfni iii tbe »wo Sialsr J 
of Poetry find P»inUnir. iKnidiiti, Priri(«4 «in4 floMI 
H. Hitlf, in DUck-frran, near tbo W»t«r-wl«, W 
Price One Penny. Pp. 16. 

This is interesting, as it affords * me*«ar»| 
pecnniarj value in Anne's reign of a fairly ] 
pamphlet of sixteen pigM- 

AbMlom snil Acbitophel.— Already dcvertbeJ In ! 
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Sold by ftll the B-Kiltiellem cf London und WMtnia 
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.idc. \-m. Pp. 10. 

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Nerrorom." — Seal, From a Corrected Copy. Lml^ 
Printed ftnd 8uM by 11. Hilli, la Bluk-fryy&rs, ttearl 
Wht*r»ide, KW. Pi.. 1'*.. 

Tbe T'-nipIe of Pealb : a Poem. Dy the 
Honntiroblo the Mannii* of Nonnnnby. A Tnui«l». 
otit tif tbe French. With an Oile In mcinnry r>( 1 
Ute >I&jo«ty y'letn Mary. By » Pernon of 
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elcTcn pamphleta published by llilU, nonn of 
which, with the exception of Tht Kii-CaU: • 
Poeirtt and ll'ine: rt Poem, ia contained ia etUlff 
Mr. W.mxis's or the present list. 

A PinpRvrick oji Oliver Cromwell and bis Victoriaa 
By Edm \V»ller, B«q. With Thrre Poeme on hi* f-v-i'.. 
written by Mr. Drydcn. Mr. Bprat, aad Mr. \Vi.li:.-. 
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iu Bl4ck-fryais,near the Waterside, 1710. Pp. ]<!. 

\V. FaAzsa, F.K.aa.Tj 

OaIXISO ClinRCHKS ATTKR CURISTlAJf N*l. 

(C"* S, ix. 4fie). — An instance of this occttw 
Lirerpool. St. Nicholft.'^ Church is suppoaei} 
h.-ive been founded by Nicolas, Bishop of ban^ 
CurD-Hrvonshire, from some documents that ar«|!i 
were within a few yeare, in eTJslenfe. i 

GiLUri.oWKR FarrinodoX:] 

It (6" S. ix. 306, 378, 439).--Since send 
yoQ my former note on this subject I have 
nmined several olber old Bibles, and ant dow a 
I to confine the change from it %o iU within ma 




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33 



I 



xwrrower limita. Oae I examined, prin(e<l in 
1683 by John Hayes, brio^fs tbe uae of it down 
fourteen Twirs laior: itnit annther, of iTOg, c»rri&!i 
the aiodvrn ipellini; iti hiok spv^ntT-aix yearn; 
M that t£ ii clear tbc chiint^t^ luui^t haro been 
miu)* within the lireaty-livd y&m bctnrcea tbe 
dAtM I Lir« Duned above. W. S. B. H. 

Fii*M0ie(6«> S. ix, 33i\ ^.le).— May I correct 
ft mistake in luy litst piper, which I urn sorry to 
tuve mude f LoLbuire, King of Italy, died io 050, 
Xtol. f)3i>, K> that Adelutde might hu7d be«n hit 
ilui}(bL<-r. At the mme time, I think she vu tbe 
d/tUL<litt*r uf her tnother'i wcond husbcind, Otho. 
I niii«i ftlao upolo^jize for baring in momentjiry 
forgetfijIn(?«s, :ir,(i inialed by a slop in tbe wroou 
pUce^ writi«a xs if Berths, and not her daughter 
Adelaide, hud been the widow of Lotbaire. 

Loftu MosTAonTK (6« S. ii. 207, 23fl, 377).— 
7n rcftly Io ray inquiry at the first of the above 
ritfnrciiccs one correspondent saya, that, upon tb« 
dtraib »f .rohn Nerill at Bamet, in U71. the titte 
Lord Moutacnte wiw lost, hot (luWqitenLly reNtored 
throngh it« beinj; conferred on the f^nndaon of 
bis daaahter Lucy as Lord ")IontAj;ne." Another 
corrwpondent ^ives it av Vi«coiint ** Montacule." 
I thoiild now bo glad to know which in tbe correct 
vpelliQii; of the title, if Manta;4ue or Mont&uute ; 
■Uo whether its possessor, or any of bia descendanU, 
ndftpCed hifl urandmotber's maiden name of Xevill, 
toA at any period resided at l^fontacute, in Somer- 
wuhirr. W. 0. Clotoibr. 

8caihampt«n. 



A 



Yard 



. NVfcyujMii'.h 



•r Bkkk (e^b S. T. 36S. 394, 450 ; 

, 2»0; TiL I8,47G; Tiii. 130).— Some 

may be interested to know tfant a 

I'Z yard, from which beer may be 

'-■ leeo at the ** Prince of Widea" inn, 

:reet, Portland Place, London, where 

anfnrtbed it lome daya ago. I may :uJd that 

' ' '-ha bouB(^ informed me that he had 

an inn at ^iinn, where the custom 

I ii-tu^- I — 'in Kuid irt obtain. 

GonKRT "hi. TnCRGOOD. 

"ViflitA ii-M.m ■' (e"' S. ij. 327, 409, 476).--Tbe 

miaiAke &Il Alax S. Oolr and others fall into 

|eo ti/ ly ortBea from their mistakint; 

-■■ . Ab many take it the '' Vejica 

piacu ii -i i.w:, •>! Hntiquiirian research as think 

ia a eudrt^r of folk-ctynioli>|{y, hence popularly 

"""**" VoT initano*', no doubt it it true an 

caie will bo found to prevaii among 

whether blohammedan, Brtbmin, or 

l-Jiut as the Mnnri king and hia chiefs, 

Silon, enn donbiless i^'ive a aimilnr reason 

! Ill i}f bi'Hd-dre-ts. Neverthe- 

iiow bow their present notioos 

diretitiy M>iuieuMd with the ancient sign of the 




Zodiac, in which nndoubtedlr tbe real presence 
idea waa more than nymbolizad. 

Gii.MFLowKR FAaaiiiaDox. 

ETrMot.ocv or SoLPmrn («"• S. ix. 436, 471). 
— Surely ve need nottrurel to Sanfcrit at till for 
the etymology of a raioeral known to Europe aa. 
tK>ming principally from SoUHturn, near Nuplei|l 
th'iiiuU there Nre deposits in Spain, Sicily, and 
Hecla. Tbe name is very likely to be Greek, or 
4ucfa Greek as was used m Magna Grocia. It is 
almost aure to be m. Now let ua see what we 
can make of it taking this for our basis. John 
Cleland, the oelebnited Will Honeycomb of the 
SpttifHor, in hie Voctbularif deriTed it from the 
Celtic tbii»: Z, the pretwsitivearltelo; ui,mat«ria; 
phur, fire; su/fi/tur^materia ignea. vXi) ia mailer, 
irG/t, tire. E^van to this day in IC^ian sotfo xnoLi 
iof/onito may be read for tolfo and tolforato^ and' 
the SpaniAh is anufre, I do not see why wo should 
go to Sanscrit whUe we have all this nt hand. 

C. A, Ward. 
narerstock HUI. 

With regard to the etymology of this word, may 
t be allowed to obeerTe that the derivation of tbo 
Latin aulphur (properly »pelt tulpur) from a word 
appcuiring in Sanscrit dictionarici in the form 
f-uit-yln, is quite aa much a guess, and quite a; un- 
supported by eTideoco as the assnmpCioo thi^ 
(nhdri means "enem^ to copper." One gueas ia as 
deAtiCute of probability as the other. Tbe pro- 
hahillty is that ^nlvdn is not a genuine SaniVrit 
word. Why should tbe Lat, »-ulpur be borrowed 
from an Indian source / Italians are not likely to 
bare got their sulphur from lodui, plenty being 
obUioJible in Itrdy and in Palestine. If the \m\. 
sulpnr be a foreign word, it i* much more likely to 
be of Phi»nician or Arabic origin, like other foreign 
iirticlen^ naphlhOf mj/rrlia, nitruvi, n'niuirnoii, 
njtrtiu, patma ((he tree), and cfar/yfui. I* it pos- 
pible that *ulpur can have been borrowed from a 
Semitic word, representing Arab. ziiyhftrd% taffroUi 
the minertil being so named from ita colour? for 
l=\Uo guttural gli, cp. It, i}a(d<u»= Baghdad. 

A. L. Marusiiir. 

Oxfoid. 

Viscount Mo!«taqcr (G«* S. U. 200, 257, 337, 
377. 398). -See, for a full reply, "N.&Q.," y^ 
S. viii. 292. and note 314; refer to Arkcoll & 
Jones, Solicitors, 192, Tooley Street, and .lamrs 
Ooleman, White Hart Lane ; see alao s n*« book 
noted iu the Timfs, February, 1884, Cmislf^ty, by 
Mrs. Roundel), 4to., pric« lOi. Bd., Bicker* & Son. 
Note that Bniwue of Cowdtay U "junior" M> 
Browne of Betcbwortb, Surrey. J. B. 

CniTTT-rACE (e* S. ix. 149, SIfl. 899. 354. 
414). — My query in regard to Ibis word boa been 
tbe means of raising a qneaiion between M&. 
Smttse Palujbr and Dr. Cai^TcCj but only on 



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a tide issue, viz-, whether the ortgiDBl forai bi* 
fJtifiu-far« or cJiiehe-rtwhe, No one except Mr. 
BiitKBECK Terry bus «iit auy reply to luy query. 
Ho cotitribiitea {p. 299) a valuable, but po/./ling 
exKiiiple of chitti/acet eatller than aoy which I 
yet po^*eFMtl : 

*'St»rafl tlieirfore Wann&n 

Vou balfc-fic't groBt, you tbiolt-oheckt ehltUfaee *' 

DovnfaU, kc^ 

(\ qaote from the orij^nl edition, 1601). 
Upon this I remirk that Wnrnian is ja ex- 
tramily: he has just been imploring a piece 
of meat or bread to save him front death ; be is 
like a "hulfe-rac't Kfoat," which phrase I take to 
mean that bis face has no more roundness than 
the profile on a well-worn coin. Br what con- 
tradiction can he be rightly deacribed as " thick • 
cheekl " ? Is not the eui^ndntion "thin-cheeked" 
OB safe as it is obrlous? If so, the example is a 
good one of the word in what I iiippose to be its 
proper nentte, the same as that of Burton aln»adv 
qiioteil by nif, *' a tliin, lean, ohitty face." Will 
abler critici say what, they think of my proposal ? 
Meanwhile an example of the word in the spelling 
diichiface or ehiehtfaee remaiaa yet to be supplied. 

O. B. MOOHT. 
U, Xorbam Road, Oxford. 

It seems to me some of your correspondents 
are more interested in tbs spelling than the fun. 
Bicorn with his two horos, who feeds on hen- 
pecked buflbands, is lo fat he can hardly waddle 
across the stige ; whereas Chiche Vacho. u^ly 
oow, whose diet is obedient wives, is so nearly 
starred she can hardly drag herself aloofr. And 
in this the joke (which Chaucer was well up to) 
ooDsisted. P. P. 



MousK (6»* S. ix. 507).— If E. S. W, will Inm 
tn p. 12D of vol. I. (Monattfri^) of the Centenary 
Eflttion of the AVaverloy Novt'li — the standard 
edition of Scott's novels— he will find this word 
rendered nunc. Mivnt in ihe early editions was 
obviously a mere typoiTntphin.-tl error, and not a 
hip^ua of the author, whose manuacripiji will 
compare most favourably with the i^enentily of 
"copy." E. 8. W.'s Impression that Sir Walter's 
MSS. never went into the printing C'tfice is not 
bnrne i^ut by focU The orixinat manuscript of 
The Miinn$ttry id, I believe, in the librarv of 
Middlebill Home, Worceslerahlre. A. W, B. 

fMs. P. '.Vx itBtca tliat nnru vits adopted ID plao« of 
wiiTi* ill ill* eilili'iri iif ll^Tl. Other cofreiFptnnlonti 
Riiliplx nnswrra liennng Put the inf.irmaiion cf A. W. B.. 
which t* authxriutirc, and du|>«nMi wiUi the ntcd of 
furiiirr oommBul.l 

flKouoK Bor.KV!* ffiw S. ix. 40G, W").- If 
freorKe, V'lscouul ICochford hud left n Uf^itimate 
•on, 11 IN v*>ry rimnrkiil'l** thiit hi? first cousin. 
t^iteen Rlizabflh, after hvr acceniion to thn throne, 



and ^aod father's hooours ; and it is iil»o 
able that the Careys have always qit-r' - * 
Boleyne arms, which they coujd not \ 
fully borne had Lord Roohford left '^i. - 
issue. J 

I should be glad to know the oriyin at ill 
title Rochford. I cannot fiad that an;, 
ft family of that name married a B- 
Butler, yet in the wonderful cmal of mpj* 
King Uenry jfr>nted to his wife, Aone ~_ 
(and from which her own pal«rDal arme 
omitted), the fourth quarteriog ii.Qaarterly, 1 and 
Butler; 2 and 3, Arg., a lion rampant sable, crowoi 
gule?, Rochford. Epjiuso M. Bont, 

Early Dated Ex-Librw (6"' S. ix. ifttt).- 
The owner of this plate was Racbd, C 
Dowager of Bnth, daujjhter of Fruncia Fa 
of Westmorelniid, and widow of Ht-nry 
Aflh and last Eiirl of Bath of that family. He i 
AuK- 16, 1654. The inscription, wliich Ml 
0'CoWNHr.L calls incoherent and ineompreh 
sihie. Is certainly very much so indeed if 
OS a siuj^le sentence ; and if Mr. OCovifKL 
to conatrue it as such, I feel quite sorry f 
But there is do difficulty in it ; the midd 
**exdono,"&c., li the usual Latin ioecrif 
(lifts ; the rest is an assemblage of heraldic i 
" Ne vile fano" is that of F^ine. and 
might be easily identified. The arms urs 
chier and Fane impaled. 

0. F. S. Warreit, M.i 

Treneglos. Kenwyn, Traro. 

*'BiBLioc.RAriir or EpiTArna" (6**; 
493).~As the compiler of the BMio 
Bpilapha indicated at the Utter refer 
your correapondent D'Arctt LrvKB, I can 
say tliat the bibliography was not put fortl 
complete, but merely as a list of the worka 
magszins articles retatinjj to the subject 
bod at that time been able to find ; and, < 
ing that I had only a v^hort time to E•^^he 
together, the bibliuuraphy is fairly . 
of the works enuiiienited in my bi:- 
could not collate, as I had not beea ubic to 
obtain copies of them, and I therefere nwrely tE^tt 
the titles as I had gathered them from 
various sources. I may also tell Mn. Lit 
that I wrote to one of the aulhore he [n«Q(i 
whom he is indebted for two books do« 
list, but I never received ao acknowledft 
my letter. Since compiling my bibli 
I bare been collecting materials for 
it, and have also had I ho liind help j 
friends the Rev. W. O. F*i»ul(rr and 
Oniy, Imtli of nlioui have ^rut uie naiuM 
urortcH rclAting lo the lubjci't. In cnoif 
liy I intend to itrmngr it at 
thc' varions couotie!*, and rat 



did not restore him in blooil imd tu his father's j uatiur the towns by RiirtnK refi 



rerencM Ir 



■ NOTES AND QUERIES. 



35 



t, &0., lo H to niftke it a rvf«r«oce httok 
f geneologut, noLiquiir/, &a. I nhikll 

it a jfrvHl. fATOitr if tltote of your curre- 
lU who have twy works ri'l»tiii;{ to the 

will kimlly m«u(1 iiit> |>iirticulitn of tbein. 
to Mil Lkvcu fur ttui »Hdilianal iteiiu 
1 bii liu, W. G. R PAOtt. 

iptiou Library. EIull. 

rLXHAif Cross lyo- aw npKR (6*** S. ix. ^49. 
I tuiTe to thaok vurioQs coDirtbiilon for 
nnder this head. I wrote a ntnry on the 
(ta th« Million for June, 1870) at tbe 
of ft frivDil, wbn xnid he wai acqtiuinted 
e hero of it. The circuiuitimces were very 
X Th«nii04r(I (rpntlfiimn oootiime'l to tuniu- 
I wife of hia atft^ctiuna ia n life of enso by 
tn|{ hioiMlf OS a ooe-lc^god beggar on a 
1 city crosfint;, notwithntandinft the con- 
Uiat it would one day brioK btoi to (T^ief. 
fitLatly ran over by hiaowo wife's broii){bAiii. 
d D«ver Hiupecled what hi« buBtneas wai* 
«» Ibo victim of thf> HC(*t()«>nt 
par:i|;ra|jli in ih^ C^turt Jrntrrtal siirprifldd 
I Uacieil it iiujilied thii the atory givrn 
• ft fiction ; hut I am ioureMed to find 
•t ihete bus been more than one similar 
>tm. R. 11. Book. 

IMKa'M ** PiLwt-BtiiK'' (e** S. ix. 245,313, 
At the i«cond reference Mb. Wu. Cookk 
aa lUvtej write*." To which Daviea does 
r, and to what book 1 I ditre lay I ought 
r, but I do nut. Would it not be well for 
(■•pondenta to f>ive exact namei and refer- 
I am tare the £ditor, who Taluea hi« space, 
ok M. C. M. X. 

B's " DiCT. OF Gil a»d Rom. BiodR. ahd 

LixiT" («»* S. ix. 4Hfi).— Why on earth 

bttAJd omit the words OgtnoiLjie and Cymo- 

^■ull ^ay / Both are duly recorded by 

mmaakaoma author Lempriere. 

^ 0. A. Ward. 

ItoekHUL 

IfLAIl ErHOR or HOUDOLDT CONCRXKING A 

SrAR ly Tn« Fitnuxn CmtTCRT 

ix. 33> — Being very desirou* of 

' '- fhe aoorcfl of thia reamrkuble 

in Riatin|{ that Cii><ptnianu4 

luaetf seen an ol>jeut(evidently 

m dc«cnptiOD really a comtt), which wa« 
d to be A new itar, in ihe year a.d. 3S9, 
tevea ceoturie« before his birtb, I addressed 
ipOD it both to the Obitrvatory nod to the 
Hiii. In consffiuence of that iu the latter, 
teiff. of Tiibin::rn, kindly »cnl a note to 
1 in llie miniber for 
J . - , '-owye in t.'«tpinianu» 

Dfi laUtia iv &adt 1 errooeouBly c«d- 



^fr>ii 



eluded WAS in aoine non-extaob or at any rate 
imprinted work, and only known by a refereiioe to 
it by Tyeho Krahe. The pa!i3:ii;e .it once shows 
ihitt CuApinianii^ simply tptoted thti acuunoL of 
the supposed star from Marcellinits. 

It sliould nlao be mentioned, for the information 
of your readers, that 1 found, since the dale uf my 
note in " N. 6c Q." at the above rcferroc*!, ibut the 
extriiordinury mistake of repre^ootiug Cuftpiui.tnus 
lU an cyft<witne«3 of ibis so-called star wnx nmde 
before Uumboldt by Cji-isioi, in his f!Um(nU 
d Aitronomie-y where he stittes this on the nutli-iriiy 
of Licetus. Keference to the latter {£)* XvtU 
Aitris it CoiHttii), however, tbows that be merely 
nieolioned the history of OiispioianasAS tbe source 
whence, like Tyoho Brahe, he drciw his informa- 
tion on the subject of tha celestial appe.iranDe. 
Oaaaini, therefore, seems to haTe been tbe ori);iniitor 
of tho mistake, althoiif^h it is singular that lluiD- 
boldt should have Inadvertently repented it. 

W. T. Ltsx. 

Black heath. 

Fba Faxily (6*^ S. it. 269. 472).— Some oocoune 
of tbe Orkney family of Fea may be seen in 
pp. 113-118 of HidoT^ of BpUvopal Churrh in 
Orkney^ 1688-1882, by Rev. J. B. Craven (Kirk- 
wall, PMce & Sod. 1883). On their old hoii^e of 
Store this inscription stood, "Soli Deo K'<"'i=S 
septera proavi hisc nobis raliquerant. J, F. R T., 
167L." These "septem proavi" were nil direct 
ascendants, all of the same name — James Fea— and 
holders of the same properly and title — " clestrrin." 

H. A. B. 

TBAWSMOOiiirT (0" S. ix. 449, 47fi, 617).— Pnor. 
Skkat declares, ts. cathfiird, that trausmoffri/f/ is 
certainly not from trtirutrntgrdte. '"It ia merely a 
playful turn of trixmnwrphtf, ilaelf .1 playful suh- 
Ktitution for tramform, by the pultio(( of the 
Greek morphc for the LiUin forma..'* Hero is a 
double conjecture from one who i» always declaim- 
ing against the iniquity of fiuessioK in etymology. 
To give the sli^fhtest plausibility to the explana- 
tioo, it ou^ht lo be shown that tranttnorpky wm 
ever used in the sense required. Bub a Ji^cuUr 
coioaf^e of this naiurii would never have been 
fr;tin«il on such a foundation as to be significant 
only to those who are familiar with Greek. On 
the other hand, the idea ot irantviii^Tation offers a 
familiar instance of tbe most complete alteration 
of appearaoce and form ; and certainly the body of 
that word, fronjtmtVr-, in which the significance 
seems to rest, oimea a good deal nearer the aotind 
of tratumogrifjf than Paor. Sxkat's httngmorpk-. 

H, WXDOWOOD. 

Srn Natoasirl Wraxall fC* S. ix. 387, 457, 
fill). — The much misquoted epitaph tipnn Sir 
Nathaniel Wruxall first appeared in Ihe Kdin- 
burgh Jievitvf, vol xxr, p.G4l, in an »rticle on 



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Sir Kjitbuid Wcub11*« Memoirt. It u tbeiv 
irtlsibvficd ta **■ jomig gmtlenuui of Oxford." 
ThalnaBK^ — 

"JleaTo n—r w ^ WMiB^ >»—«■ , tad facto «a 
M i*qii6lnt WMCkting, 
]li»pbcii«, nivlfttlntf, 
Qen bM 8ir SulMnUI Wmxftll ! ** 

RiciL C. CaiusnK. 

If ADi nun coDtribuiion nuy b« ulmttted od 
this Vfrll-TentiUted lubjpct, I would beg perniis- 
>ion to ftdd % very t^rif rccoUeclioa of my own, 
wbich, if Dot a-baolDtely txMt^ is, I think!, very 
iM«rly M. It wu the wiodiog-iip, t believe, of a 
tfwinaiit review of Sir Notfaaaiel Wnuudl's Me- 
wmn in ooe of tb« contAnpormrj periodicals: — 
" O^ktoMiu. iDAuma, nwn, uid frnttM mil 
MuMtttinc* uiMtatlng, 

Berv tu§ Sr Nathuik-1 WnsalL' 
nb aeuit better tha,D eren the renioD givea b; 
ALrnA, aod on th«c acoooDt may el&iin lo be a 
TCf7 neu rtpreeeDtatioo of the cwiginaL 

[Mx. C. JL Vakp bmI other contribotori Ni(|tl]r ver- 
•ioM with which Us. CMuam'fl aathontetiT« uiw^r 
caftblci m todJ^eftM:.] 

Rimtmc LrrTER or CowrEB (6* 8. ix. 4iZ, 
477;.— It mhj be well to mention that Cowper'a 
)fCUr ippeftrs in the foUowioi; tract:-- 

nrec verf Intrmtmg Lfl(li;r« ftn") in curloot RliTtnc) 
hy th« Oelebnted Poet* C: - >n.l Rinl. rnnud 

Vcrtatiai from Ctoe Oritio • -it. With >n A ;>- 

Modit. Un)y SS Caplet prime i. -irc^t Totham, £m«x. 
rr>&t«il fti Cti«rk« CUrk'fl prirftte pr«M. 1M7. 

Hie letUf i» here ftddreaied to the Rer. J. New- 
toft. WiLUAM K. A. Axoy. 

BicbcrBnafhkin, Stuwbesier. 

lurnTB TBB PAiicTftit {8*^ 6. ix. 509\— Loais 
lAfil«« was a peneiooer of the French Academy in 
BMBeAttheend of the hut ceotary. Fue«li. in 
the A t lg imti mtt KwutUrlexHm, 1800, li. 600. 
girts ■ ihorft ftcooant of him. oooimeDciitK by 
o hwr riog that he fint made himwif koovn at 
Boom by "A Dyiag OUdiator." On fait return 
to Pari* he painted many pictures, a eoaaJderable 
Bttbber of which hare bMO eo^ruyed. 

EowAKb SoLLr. 

B. IL Bocnx (6^ S. ix. 0QO)l— Krfpna Maria 
Bodbe, the weB'kiiowii nofelMit. died at Water- 
Ifatd, aged eigb^-oor. on May 17, IB45. Therw i* 
m obitavy ooliee of ber. with a list of elrren of 
ber poUiaaiooi^ la the GemHtmtn*§ Maganm* for 
JoIt, }fH^, p, R«. Hft 6rrt paMfcTl^^an Dr-peued 
in " ■ ■ wju 

•^ - TM, 

** Tu> pcst*t tn- ie0, Jt fiM tL« 1lhuU^ >> v^trL-f4«« abon 
coateoBpt," EciWAUi HotlX. 

A bt c( WRfcB by tlua lady ia pciated in the 



amail biojEtapliioal dicliooary of 1A1& AU Uiil 
iu corap'len could say of ber wm that iba bd 
**)icquired cooaiderable note bv bfr rtiriotu vocb 
of fiction." W. P. Cocimtl 

16, Qaeea Anoe'i Gato. 

St. Paul's Catocdral {6* S. x. 9).— T 
natbor of the three po«ius was Junea Wri^t^ 
bora at Yumtoo, in Otrordsbire. about the }«ir 
16U. He was the aon of the Her. ftHiMT 
Wrt^ht, of Oketuno, KutUndahire (eeo A 4 
Wood** AtK Ojc., ir. £75) i MJd to hare hate 
educated at Merchant Taylora' School ; eatnedal 
New Inn 1666; removed to the .Mi<Jdle Tenjih 
three years sulMeqitfntly; died iu 1715. JaaM 
Wrijfbt waa a corefut and laborious anlh|inrr, 
publuhing. amoQiEit other thing*, Tht //ul«rf«/ 
Rutlaudt &a, 16&4« A Comptndiout V%tie ^ Ai 
XnU TSmkuUs, ^bOf 1635, ATonaiiKrofl A n'.7tq 
** translated and epUomized," 1' 
clioed to {(ire Wood som? infur .iM 

Latter desired, because he regvdeil liirn oa **8a1 
jtidtciona biojjmpher." Wood therefore 
him, ** He hath also poblisbed tittle trivii 
of butory and poetry, merely to ^t a little 
which be will not own." A 
(1) JnA*<^tyon the Pruf 
t^ithMml, 4to., 160S ; {i) in' ' a*!/^, 
l\uliU»Q of SL Faul\ fol., 1637; (3) 
Faulina : a Poem oh Oka AW Fahri^ 
Pauf'jt, 410.. 1709. The beat urcount 
Writfht ii probably a note by W':irt«in is 
Jhfinor Poeuu, ed. 17B5, p. OOt. Thia 
left out by Warton ia the second edition ofl 
in 179U EuwABD SoiiA 

PamcEsa PocAHostTAS (€"" S. ii 
only portrait of tbia lady wbich wa« 
wna eogmred by Siuioa de Pane. As aha 
Bdarch, 1616. and the vdame contaiaing J 
gnTed portrait wan pubtithed soon after; ^ 
fix within ziairow limiu the date of both, 
never been discovered who puuled ihia 
U pomebow came into the ponesaion of i ~ 
of Tiiitin^ton. and from them pawed 
family of (be Elwiox, of Booton Hall, OMr . 
ham. It in f^vil t'l h.-iTe Einc<> bun./ on ihi* wttT 
fle^chaoi 
Rolfea of ii 

bontaa's buabesd, nod coonect^*! by mn 
the Elwini. Mo. Ettts will Rod nil 
more in Mr&. Herbert JanK** bonk eaiU 
rin^^m Piut and Pntrnt, 1B83. I kfl 
thjojt of the 8od'« (Kiftraie. <\ 

attaham Hall. Ncrfolk. 

Tnva Cam Ac- 

ois iiji -A- i4rv\- I . 

■■ ■ nMiher " 
UEaaisoMi ud told feaa «f b«r iMeam ||l 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



37 



mw with cItiH of Ih* Devil], and the hsM Ponif* 
•h* \ii\d te\ hHoi; him foctli, nml that tho (iid not 
ltlc« lli» VVny Ul' wa.1 in." Tiiii on tlio fttithority 
of " Mr. Smith,*' Titiis'n nin'itcf at Mcrcttint 
TayJoni' School, wbf re " in l€6-l he came » t'n*e 
^- '■ ' ^ - ' "(- finit of h: '■-■': MuTew.-w 

r of bin I -y. H« 

Cm nl ihA oil 

for ^ ( him." Tin 

i» tlcmbttevi ud error. Pcrb&ps his father intendpd 
lo »»Dii bim there, but erentUAlty chote CUius 
OollK^ft. North n^reM with Dr. Jiws-Tr ibat he 
**•»»» hora a! Okfh^tu in Kui!«ii'!*hirr," .-ind adtlit 
•"ti :iiT*a8 A Mtt of ' • Colonel 

Pr. Lime of Tilu«"i t.. .:. North'* 

JSzoukJt, 1. iiu §§ U3-lfi6 (I74L/;. 

C. A. &L FK:cyBLL. 






'■:'dsto313 dik Oar (6** S. u. 60B), 

'in from the iirimshij Sew» ab to 

-. but oinDot, I ihink, b« 

; t.h« fair rjiny have been 

.1 Lii iii.y~pn»a\h\y ev<>ii older than 

; eAis — but it in Alnioxt ncrtain that 

IS much more reoenU If your corre- 

could |£irQ the t«xt of the cbitrler, or 

he woald rrnder a sen'ice. It would 

I. if po-Allde, tbo otidcDce for the 

vUa fAir befuro the gra&liog of the 

Ajfon. 



Salt ik Magi.- ii, RtTES (6"» S. ix. 461).— From 
iMit Black''! iater«3tiuj( coIJeotioa of tftll-stiper* 
"HP is omilte<l which perhnpft cleH«rvee 
liry, Ttx. ibAt oTerttirtimt; a sAlt-celUr 
< U9 IX (Iir<] f^ud toeosne bntwcen the penona 
: neAr it. B«ing in MUaa a few wefin ago, 

■•'•'' '" '■ ■ "•' '^" for the exprem 

HcbTt«l An^etu hod 

rirueo ; Aod I muBt 

i cou > tmce of it. It nerer- 

. ocv n one enfcraTing. 

a H. BCHK. 

RoTAX. MAnniAOK vim a Slate (15** S. x, 
BJ. — OloTJn II., Kinir of France, is said to bure 
»med H-iiliil'(<. .ivpd when a child on the Bonth 
|COA»l of I - .1 French pir»ti> nnd nold us 

»ve tn if ili<_. p:iI:ico of Clovis. Ai 

bi' i' -■' ■ ■■'■.' ' red ibo prudence 

'h.ii!!y ..: ii,.; . n ftlftve, and tniir- 

her, ami tfatu »ht' U-i';iiii» (,>nion of Fmnce, 
irini; three 9qo% Cnp^t, Vului-, und Boiirl>oit, 
am^ ncciniwt of Ihtj roiimoce of biitory will he 
lid in tin tirtirla by Dr. Doran in the t'umilif 
^ri^ui. !KMt, p. 87, under ibe tide of " Eo»;lUh 
iauvtxa of Fnnce.** Uoiibkt Suitil 

M now iji Tiir Esumhii Litaxy 

" "' — I mQ>*t ajFilogix* for huTini: iiver- 

ked vba*. Uiu poiut h»d bMa Klraftdy diMtiMcd 



in " N. * Q."(m«5»» a T. 365. ^M; tI. 92), under 
b«fflJJoK "Criticiams on the Pmyer B'wk." At 
the *«cond of ihe»e refereoc«s Ma. 0. S. jRanAM 
ptiitit* uiit that a pliinl or ■: ' < ' i 

uiDljular verb, iir a Aiii^ftilar ; ■'\ 

i^ a common coast ruction a-.i., i.,,. v^-r-. ...u >. , . i -. 
PerhajM it may be of iniercjit to [Mint out t\i,t 
ilii-. pniotice would oeviu lo have been dt'ujifU'iL 
the titue of Ksou JairiM, when tbo Aq~ 
'it Wrwion w;w mnde. For wherens in the 
i'mytr Bonk version of Va, \xxi\. fi, we read, 
"They idmll fear thoe, aalunif a* the tnn and tnoun 
endurelh," the A.V. altera thi« into '* Th(»y al.oll 
fear ibeo as lonj; as the sua and m<>0Q endum." 

W. T. Lmir. 

nUckbeath. 

pARoniEs: GKsr'a " Elegt " (fi" S. it 509).- 
I qnoted the two lines in quettinn from the aiit 
bioifrajihrofj. Latiliint;ton,tbehoo|{nalb>r. I bad ihd 
opportunity of Vxtrrowin;j a copy of thi^ r|iinint anif 
intercatiaf{ book some time n^o. but wtshini; to 
refer to it agiun lutely, I hilei) lo find one in tba 
Hrit, Mus. The whole text ja ipterbwded wttb 
qiiotAtions (nioiiitly short), and nf thiii pnniily only 
a few veniefl are ei^^Q* nnd without author*)* natu« 
My original query (fl* S. viii. 107) naked what 
known of it. K. fl. Buaic 

Bkk .ToieaoM («** S. iic. B06).— Tf W. C. B. 
will refer to " N. k Q ," 3"» S. Tiiu 195, he will 
6nd the ver*e8 he now aondnyou. Fn)iu'*N. & Q." 
ibey were taken by Col. Ciiuninf{bam, and will b4 
found in bin edition nf Jonaoo's IKorJtji, vol, iii. 
p. 466. Jonua and Faraahy are also mentioned, 
vol. I. p. li. Wtu-iAU E. A. Axus. 

Higher Uroogbton, Matichoter. 

K.vcLisH Names roii Plowkrs (6** S. x. I*i). 
— The Dumes of tulipa, rout, or other f1'>(veri 
imported from ubrond are seldom truuslu'ed. 
Thux, ID the cose of tulipfl, t(.-irdeneri) always *|ti'ak 
of Pottebacker, Eroopriuz, Gl'^ria Sulis, &c. An 
exception in BOtiieliriipi made, as in the instance of 
the crocus Chilh of iJyId, but, for any literary pur- 
pose, Mk. Va.x L\us woald do well to leave ihtt 
original French name^. K. SiursQ^r-BAiKiK. 

he Leopard is Cyprow jxtnlheriua, the nantber 
con-ry. La Plume is tbi* horny biine or ittteruKl' 
shell of Loli^o tiitgfin*, the calnnmry or common 
sqnid, and oitHed by dealer* the pen shell. Ija 
Miiditjne 19 Fofu/a iKiincd, the nuioio nhell of 
uu.'^ciuntiflc collectors. Ilcuii Owek. 

HOCSIW WITU SXCRKT OllAMQRRS (6** 3. Ztl. 

248.31^; «•" 8. ii. 12. 117, 20.0, -133, f.£3 : iii. 
!I6 ; iv. lie, 217; v. 3il7. 478 ; vi. 76 ; nii, 233). 
— I can find no roconi in any of ihe Incd his- 
torieH of Bccret ohaiubi^rn which furmerlv cxi"Tcd 
At Canonbary Tower, Islin){ton| and Cromwell 
Hotiie, Higbgate ; neither, so far as X am awtkre, 



38 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[0*^8. Z. JrLria.'VL 



bftTo thpy been before m'-ntmnpfi in"N. AQ." The 
former bouse ba* a ir I ■■':■.'. a " hiding' hnle" 

ftxiitteii ID one of >>' '^ the );rounil fl<>or 

(oriKioally forming pirt ul the great ball), tbe 
secret of which wiu kaotra only to Sir John 
Spencer (who cAtne to reside here early in the 
MTenteenlh c«Dtury) and to one of his verrantx, 
ITnder the Btairs near tbe top of the tnwer there 
if a sort of dark cupboard, which ia alito laid to 
have been a secret chaiulwr, bub it« hidiog capv 
cities are iioir rather va^ue. 

LewiK, in his history of lAlingtoD, aayi the 
absurd tradition prevailed in the neTEbbourhood 
some time n(;o tb&t the monks of St. BEirtbolomew 
hftd a subterranean comoiunicntton from CanoD* 
bury to the priory nb SmitbHeld ; and though the 
arches which have at, various times been brouj{bt 
to light hare been proved to be only those which 
once belonged to a water conduit, the hoaso to 
this day is said to havo a subtprranean pissag*, 
and the eotranca to it is ereo pointed out in one 
of the houses at tbe back of tbe tower which once 
formed part of tbe old mansion. 

Tbe secret cbumber at Cromwell House was 
discovered, I btlieve, some sixty years ago durinjj 
some alterations, and had its entrance at the back 
of n large cupboard, which was sitiuited in one of 
the npper rooms. This cupboard do lou(;er exists, 
but tbe re<»9e in tbe thickness of Ibe wall thiit 
separat<i9 two of the rooms, and which formed the 
" hiding hole," is still used as a cupboard. The 
cavity, which rccedeit ten or twelve feet (and would 
be capable of contalninK five or six petions), 
narrows to a sort of wed^^e shape : but the incline 
of the wall dividing the rooms is hardly perceptiible 
from the exterior. 

I am told that part of an underground passage, 
running in the direction of Crotnwell House, 
has quite recently been discovered near Higbgate 
Church. PerhH|>a the subterranean coramunication 
to Irftuderdiile House never existed, and, as in many 
other instances, it ran to the church (7), 

r may mention here, on good authority, as I 
believe the fact \n nnt generally known, that Hendon 
Pluce, now called Teoterden Hall, Ht-ndoo (where, 
Mccordiog to Stow's Annnli, p. 934, Cardinal 
Wolsey, after losing the favour of hts sovereip), 
lodged the first night on \m journey to Yorkt^bire), 
b'ls 11 subterranean passage extendiog u consider- 
able distAuce. The entrance, which is situated in 
one of tbe cellars, is now bricked up ; but when 
it was discovered, not many years ago, it was 
explored for about fifty yurclB, until the foul uir 
extinguished the light. Allan Kba. 

Bank of Kngland. K.C. 

" JrK'.isKftiA " (6*'' R. ix. 408).— Tlii^ work of 
Otbo Melander was, I think (from WuMn), first 
published under another title, Joatrum aiijne 
Striorum Ccn<unct, lOJO. It ii not there called 



Joccuria. So far this is only a clever btDdtf^J 
title on tbe cover of E. S. R.'s book. Bat I 
learned Francis Swert (born Antwerp 15€7, i 
1629) did publish EpUaphun Joco ii*r%a at Coh 
in 16S3. Another edition which I bave, 6% 
1635, does n<'t mention any previous oQe« 
the firit m'jy go so far back as 16t»l or 1( 
Swerb begun publishing. It looks u« if Lhi*^ 
stria was of learned Butch inveDtioD. It 
not grown common, for Ic is written with a hyp 
Joco-Siria, C. A. Waul ] 

Here is my example of such a titl« : — 

"A Joor>s«ria Disc-mne. Tn two (poetical) D 
between a Norlliumbcrtand neiitleaian and bia T< 
a Scotchman, boUi old Cavslien, with an Anacran 
lixed to tlteiii; l-cit>t{ Some Mi«:e11aa«*iua Rat»f9 
ii|>on scvoral occaiions. By George Stuart, &c. 
and N««ciLStl«, 1650." 

J. 



In ibe edition of the Jocorum atqu€ • 
published at Frniikfort, 1617, tbe running 
throughout Is " D. Othonis Alelaodri | loooaerahl 

T. w. a I 

NoTKs oir Mr. A. Surrac Palstrr's **Pa 

ETTUoLOGr" (0*" S. ix. 303. 391, 437, 4977.-1 
11. Fitra^ p. ttiti. — Tbis name is not an iaali 
of " folk-etymology." It is not a Greek luutr 
hktioD, and has nothing whatever to do with HagV, 
tho muther of lahmael, or with hngtir, on Arabic 
wf>rd for "rock or stone." This Greek name o( 
the capital of tbe Niibat^ans is tbe correct render 
ing of the S»^mitic name SelA, which means "« 
cliff.'* See Encyd<^. Britannica (a,v, " Nabi- 
tajans *0- 

12. Tlihtrnia, p. fi3A.— Tn tho account of thb 
name the explanation of Pictet is followed, who 
seea in the first syllable what he calls the Irish 
t&/i, country or people, Mr. Whitley Stokes ItM 
sbown long ago ihitt there is no such word as tc 
ibh, meaning huid or country. To be anre, it is to 
be found in O'Reilly's Dictionary aa if n subatan* 
tive in the nom. sing., but it is really n very 
modern dative plural of til, a descendant (wbirit 
is a cognato of tho Lat. puer ; so Rby*, )iV 
Philologtj, second edit., p. 40K). For an interee . 
note on tbe etymology of i/i^'cmia, see M. Miitli 
Lecturit, i. 285, and cp. Joyce's ^*cAuo2 J 
Grommar, p. 3J, for ibh^^iibh, dat. pi. of Ua i 
For remarks on the name Ivemii, acta Rbys, 
Britain, p. 262, ed. 1882. 

13. Noiilog, p. 493.— TbJs Iridi word for Cbr 
niikfl ia not au instance of '* folk-etymology.** ] 
cfrtainly not a corruption of Fr. ncd. TIi© 
Giiclic notlaie^ in Welsh nadolig, is a loan w 
from the Lat. not{i.It>ta, a birthday feaat 
Windisch, Irith Ttxft, glossary). The vawt^l 
nod- is quite recular in words borrowed from 
Latin ; cp. Ir. ptig, a kiss=Ijat. pacem ; Ir, ^ 
Late Lnt. padiUU, a pool. A. L. MayhIeWJ 

Oxford. 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



39 



HESsriAw (6*^ S. ix. 349, 3C8, 37G, 436, fill). 

-No Henohaw, either Cbarles or E4w»rd, ev«r 

; Lord Mnyor of London up to 1773. Neither 

lid any William Strickland of Boyntoii marry n 

lennhiLW ; there were only two that could hnve 

one M nccordiQjf to dnte, Tiz , Sir William the 

birti. iinii Sir William the fourlh baronet. The 

.omiw miirried, in 1684, Kli/ahelb, dau^^hler and 

heir of William Palmer. Esq., and the latter Cathe- 

■ine, daughter of Sir Jeremy Sumbroke, Kot., of 

>ubhin9, CO. Herta, and had an only son. Sir 

"eorne, fifth baropet, who married, in 1751, 

Jliz^belh, tfhird daughter of Sir Rowland Winn, 

art, by whom he left issue. Edward Roper, 
Bf Eltham, married a danghter nf James Butler, 
M.P. for Afuodel. Hia daughter Elizabeth, wife of 

iward Heoshaw, became his heir on the death of 
er brother without imiue. The nnnio of the 
aughter of Sir Thomas Mure who married William 

nper was Margaret, Dot Elizjibeth. It is rery 
brobable that Edward HcuBhaw was descended 
lom Edward Henvbaw, of Lewea, co. Suanex, 
burth ftnd younijcst boii of William Hennhaw, of 
Tortb, CO. Sussex, who had a grandhon, by uumi< 
Sdwarri, living in 16R1, and mentioned in his 
brother'fi (the Rev. Tobias Ueushaw, Vicar of 
lIuckHeld, co. Sussex) will, dated Sept. 4 and 
proved Sept. 8, Ifldl. D. G. C. E. 

MoKFRAS (6'"' S. ix. 489).— A closely allied 

i)rm is Monfries, a modern patronymic called 

otttsh. The Mithraic cavea found near [latirian'n 

i^all are ascribed to Roman legionary Holdiora 

quartered there, so tbo inacriptiona connected 

herewith cannot bo Celtic. There is little doubt, 

however, that some form of auD worsbtp cxist'Cd in 

"Sritaio prior to the Roman occupiitlnn; thus Bath 

ras called Aqutc Soils, or Aqiiiu CalidiB, from local 

hot springs, aod thereby coouected with a aun god 

^aal, cf. Welsh hawtl^ by a, common euphonic 

Blino^'e ; cf. Latin tol, Sanskrit Auriyo, Greek 

\eli<t9 ; also the river Sind, which becomes Indus, 

ud leads up to Hindu. Is the BeuDans Meriosek 

llo be met with in EnfijUah ] Ltsart. 

Bath. 

NOTES ON" BOOKS. &C. 

_i Ht Wyclije,t\€ Firit of the Rfformtrt, and what 

tidUJof Eugiand. Ity Emily S, Holt. (ShswftCo) 

Fft conicss tbal we take up any book about Wycikffe 

vith K cvrtsin inisKiTing. It may be prcju<lico on our 

art. but it iiceuiB to ns tbat tbe lives of reforni«ni anil 

nti-refnrmeri fn-m fir«t to Ust liuve commonly b«en 

Ivrtttcn In a Rj-irit no hottllo to that af ttie true htitorlcul 

Ivtutlent, tti«t tha«e wlio vr i«li trj knnw vi lint men of these 

lcluM«« wore really liki* had usuitlly iH-tter (;•} to tbi! 

nfoiintsin heul ko<I work out tlio kiiowlcdtco tbey require 

for tlieiiiseWrB, that) All llieir tniii'lo wilb t)to ''hay, 

Kraw, anil ituhbia " which tbvolo|;iCRt coiitriiTentalists 

ave provided for them in the name of biuKraphy. In 

king these remarks we must be underttood ai iiwak- 



ibg quite genersUr. wilb no antmu* «gunit any par- 
ticular Rchool or faith. We oonlij. if called upon, fflva 
a long caUlogue of almost worthier pftrtltaii liio- 
Krapblcal litersture, the aotbors of which liavi* hfen 
members of almost erery theologicKl lection iulo which 
ChmtUns are at prMcnt divided. Miu tl<'lt i-howit her- 
self in many pMrages to bs a itroni; Protectant, but ws 
cannot tiriil that Ui any instance thu ha* permitted ber 
own bvliefii tn cotitur her n'>rrativf> It Is very templing 
to u niodero writer who admires Wycliff-* to try lo (.h.iw 
thfkt the reformer's opinions were thme of hi* hiogmi-ber 
)ltss H"lt i« loo honest to d<i this; »hs ktiow», more- 
over, that no man of the Middle Agos, huwcvur K"od nr 
boxevericrrftt, could by sny jiosnibts chance bavo held 
the views (f any one of th&parli«B of (b« nliislaantb 
Century. To aiiumo such a thing Is to imajcins a moral 
miracle as great as any uf tbe physical ones recorded In 
the Magnum SpecutHoi, 

There have been several books on WycltiTe In which 
oriKinal research is a prominent fontore. Thia ii a 
popular life. It is intended for, and will, we tnwt, 
attain to wide circulation; but it will be a gtest mtntske 
tf it is thi>uL-bt tbuC bockuw it i« written in an easy and* 
ilowiQif style it is thererore a luake-up from printed 
SDUrcea only. .Mi^^a Holt la a diligent student of our 
i-cuor>lB, and has, aa is evident, a rare fsclllty In their 
iuterpreution. She bat c>irefully guuo over the (ir-iund 
arrcslt, an>l from the light* which our Kt^nrd Office 
purclinicnta furnith haa hccn abli; to udd miiny little 
(nets wliicb were unLnuwu tu prcvtuu* inqiiireri. Nut 
only her hern, hut otheis of iii* tun torn ]>ornricB are 
itaiiicrs hy this. For instance. Miis H-lt hu pmved 
almost to denionitratioo thnt the evil stories cunct-rning 
Alice Poriari ere mere calumnies, invented by persona) 
enemies, which have heen lasbly t«ken up and incor> 
porated into niorlern histories of tbe picturefqiic order. 
One of the heaviest cbarles a^rainBt the unfurtunace Isdy 
was that phe had receiTed from Edward III. " t!iH entiru 
wardrobe and jewels of the dead qni-en." This Miss 
Holt has pruned to be false. What the old king did 
fcive to ber was only certain jowots, go^^d), and clinttcts 
which were In the custody of Kuph«ini» ile Uii8<^likTton. 
That ttiis La tbe true slate of tlilnjEs tbere can be no 
doubt whatever, for Miss Holt has found the original 
donation on the Patsnt Koll, and has boen careful to 
give 10 exact a rvference that anyone can verify her 
»tatemi?nt. 

Many books begin well bwt fall off towards the end. 
We have found this an e]icc[>tiun. It Mcmi to us 
that the laot two chapters are by far the beat in thu 
volume. Tbey are au admirable exposition of the 
opinions of a remarkable man, whose tbougbts were in 
imiiaitioD. 

Whore almott everything U good it is ungrateful to 
find fault, but ws would atk Mits Holt whether she 
thinks the account of realtim and nominalism on 
pp. 12, 13 quite fair! Of oourie it does not preteud to 
ue exhaustive. 

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th»«, Tli« principal contrihaton to llie Toltiiiw src 
Pr SuntQFl IV-);vUi und«r liis i>»ouiloiirm of " f'aul 
Ci*ni«t(te.'" Jolm Mltcli*'!! Kemlt)^, '.l«lm Trolter 
Brockets, anil linric* Utlbert. iruli. ainoo^ i>U)rr5. twv 
llTinii nrit«n, Mr T. T. Willdoton and lliv U«r. W. 
BHmiFf, In k'tdttion to t1)e> nntei on I»chI wortlii ntxi 
diAltct«. nil I'rovrrbN, oil biicvInI vrorda and nsoieB, are 
iiiclo'lol X •crifl« (if e«Bkji on tlie Ritcti* uf innfl. Tbe 
vltule ia nccutut nnied l<7 ftn adeqo&le intlcK KmJ •nmo 
|^>il notes. WUeii ctimpleted tlie MhH wiil form ■ 
3e»init)la po»euion to nil untiuuixief, (uid in iLliuo«t ia- 
OTitabla luftplement to ft ooiDpfete cdilton of" X. k. <^." 

Tn« A ndovfr ftm''^ (nocton. U.S., noachton, Miffiio k 
Co.). ft nirir ortftu of tbeoloRlcftl uid philofophiokl tlir>ui:ht 
in ihti Uoitod Suie«, liu darotcd conii'lcrable <'rudiiioii. 
In it« nambcn for Ajfrtl, Mnv, ftm) June, tntlie ditcumicn 
of tli« T)U-iuu'« <]'iefltiune, cccfcstuticikl and ftrchteolouicftl, 
»■ well it(t purely tl>«ol<>i:iCftl. rftUH by tbe publiefttion of 
th&ao-rallod 1'rafh'H<f nf tht 7Ve/T< jt norf/nr, eilitod by 
Cry«tinlu«, Mctri-('Olitftii of Niconiedia iVorka of onticsl 
MboUr'bip pn rarclr come to as from the pans of pra!ati-f 
of the Cftdtera Church, thxt the Mritopontnn tlrjrfniiiu^ 
«rould, in any c«f , dcarrrc to nce^y^ tliu lieit ihanki of 
YVeiteni aLailenlt. In tlic ■dual circuuilsnccs of the 
Cftte there c»n be no dou)'t that be ha« raiceJ a moM 
Tftlualile diflcuMtt'ii, ettibmcni; points which touch Dpon 
esriy Chri*titn urt and •(mb<ilt*m. bA noU a^ opon dnc- 
t*ine and diei-ipltnt*, iir^idrn ihiii sttll ojion difii-tiMiin, 
thtreare tnt'-refiinkrnrcbiui>loi;icAl Moici by I'rof. Tnylor, 
and ft dit-crfminatiii}; paper on tlir Encliab Pro-Raplia«))tc 
Bchoul by Mrs. Merfinian. Eiviiiji ovidenuof tlie breadth 
of scope of the Aiuioptr R^i'ifu-. 

Tnv Johiu Boplini Univertitt/ StuJita (Oft]tuoor«, 
publiihed hy the UnmrtiCy ; London, Trllhncr .V Co ), ai 
wfl have ftlreadyliaduccafUit to note, contninmur-b tint is 
of vaino to ttndsnt* of htitory and i^olitical (>(-i«ncc on 
Imth sides of the Atlanlic. Mr. B. J. KaTuaec. B.A., in 
hie ecsay on ** Local GoTsmment and Free Scbools in 
iioulli Oaruttna" |\o. xti. of the CntTtnity Siuiiits). ha« 
done good Mrvic« hy H-ttiriK before uf tbu early btitory 
of th^ atate for which John Locke drvued a cor^atitu- 
ttoii, and to which the Etijtliah t^uciety for the I'ropaga- 
tton of tbe Gospel lent lis nid in tlie foundation of 
parochial ItbrartefL The rtory of Sooth Carolina — 
"cinimtdf" u Air. Raiuapa teraely pot* it, "hy tbe 
flpaniarda, named hy the Frvrch, nettled by the Rn^;- 
Ush"— iaihe ■: .!..by which, notwithstaiidiiiic 

It* apparently ' >. wks jet "art Eitfgliib colony 

Id the fullpsi i vt tenii." Mf . Jtamaffa has 

added an interwUb^ vuluuio to au intetuUnc and tbIu- 
abla Miies. 

F r the Anti<iviittf r>re miiny 

^M i*uch are >lr. H. It. Wbcat- 

lc> ;....; (Jinent ni i ; .■ n ■ ■ >. j.irh is 

alijactivrlr i)luslt*t*d i -TbeC'I "luni- 

cipfti OiiTp-ir«tKii.»." hf Mr. O. L ' iwer 

Quaraa." by Mr. J. H. Kound ; < l.<>p 

of Hodoraod Man," l-y Mr. Jolr< Iron 

Ag* in Orwre," hy »r. A. Lanic; ly of 

Cains," by Mr. K t^. I'oole^ Mr. Owouue also wrilca or 
•' llie House ot Lords-" 



Tnx Iter. Charin Herbert Mayo, nf LoaK Burton 

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p. 

II V hLm ftt the abore addrcaL 

fi^ • ■ I ;' 1 1 . T Crciicu,— Frtim th« Ctij/ Pt^i we learn 
that Uie chuffib of 81, Vedast Foeter, at ibt n*r uf tb* 



'leneml Pi»t (tflire, 1» M he rcKitril, tlif --.r^TXi !.■ 



I'riday riincl, ami 8t, Ceier. C" 

ohiircli rf th<iM< united piirishes {'*■■• 

dlclop, founder of the >l'w Hiver, and his lamJj asn 

huncdj. 

fiaXitti to Carrrg))onOfh«. 

H*( mtuJ call *p(ctal «Utnttan,to tki foUnv^ny \ 
On all communioattooa muet b« written the n< 

address of tbe eeoder, not neceisarily for pDbli(mtion,1 

as a xoaranlce of piod faltb. 
Vh cannot undertake to answer i|iieriea priTmtaly. 1 
To iceare irisertion of conmuntoationt corretpoad 

tnu<t obaerre tbo fullowiriK rule. Let each nofte. an 

or rrply he written no a separate slip of paper, wnli 

<ijcnature of the writer and such addreaa ai h« wish 

apfrear. CorrespandrnCn wbu rrpeat queries are reqa 

to bead the second coinmunicatiun *' iiiiplicute.*' 
E. R. ViviAif.— Aa "N". JtQ"will not contain i 

third of the matter weekly ten* .r- -^ . i . 

forsurprtee if an nco^miunal ' 

oat One of your MSH. ihn: 

■econd with the spellinnor ib. . 

•jiir»ti<'jia Imto been throshei 

latter Ch^fl with tbe result tha; . 

lo ipell the name according tn their lancy. ThcMl 

jfct4 cannot ojcain bo rerlred. A t|U8ry nf X'^vrt, \ 

answer to which inrolTcd enme reMnrrb. ' 

pretcnt number. If you choose to separ:. 

liminary matter the (juer;. Where the rec 

birth in tlio last century ara kept, it iball appoar. 

hare no sligbtest caufc fur complaint 
H. DKLETHtOICB {'■ Liliih "t— Thpp«i*f. 

which reference if nnule to Lilith i« chap, a ■ 

It i« tretiflated Lamia id tbe^'l■i ■■■^'-•■. nn.\ 

Matthew's, Kccke's Bihlce, the t 

kc. In modem renunns it j 

For tbe referencci ■ "^ ' 

Sfo Hfr»hon's Tv- 

torf, lor. Tnlm., i ; 

SM ; ix. 5, 177- " Ariot>>|>Laite4 and C^umutiiaia " 

Dpjtear in doe course, 
w. .■■■'■ - :■■;•:: , - - 

and 1. 

- Oi-I- , 1 I __. _ .„_ _; 

eipreaaed in tbo openitii; plinue ul ihe hoadli 

"Cimono, amarnlo, diTicn aavio et F.fpvefMa au^ 

rapifceinmare," .'v- ' ■*"■ 

becomei wise by ' 

wins Ipbigenia, hi' 

tTan«Uti"n, Ilobn, X<te su>ry ia t«] 

Drjden in hii Tr.r ,, H:Kmt4, 

A Bciit ■ - ■ 

rntmnt po»- 
jnii the ad*. 

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■wm to be rapidtj acquiring. 

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tborontbiT oi'nslatflit with 'boervatlon. ciperlcnor, and C'Dtmon 
•enae. In* poriBoatfon of lb* blood, tba nmuTal of alt o'lziooa 
ma'tcr ftom the eoercttons, and tbe ncltnncnt cf lentle aetion In 
the boireb, are tbe aonroaa of tbe enratiTa powara of Uoltoway'i tllla. 



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CONTENTS. — N* 2S8. 

irllM)ill = FhAki|*KUV. tX-rimi..' 
— " l>lclt«ni CaiKlngRfl"' (^uki: ' 
ll|lbin« tUUIa-pHr-Url T'on^. 
■■n*>il~N«iii<M tn Ilklav-ck Ik r 
luUtb ikotl, *j- Aran ',>t |fri^ 
'oTrii— Uemoil&l or a t'viTftDt 
U.M. 

I;— T«r Pi»hpii(!«rlM — rommnii|J«r« Booh — H«- 



ly— i«ce ivtrr >:,. 

UAbt« or Cha|irl> i 

I:— OjM ; nKivr, * ' 
' (l.«trf i(i-..l.r - S 



.< |i«l u • L'rcat. 'lU. 



■ -" DftB JnAQ"— 

t-m- KiiU'l'tlwH.d — 
■'^ &7 

i ■-■ ri.-e In 
b— Mouiui •alt U»l« >iiuiu— Unl«r «I buUllMin 
k— "A'M» WwCtf. 59. 

Llekff'i Wrifbl'f " AoeloSkX'^D 
■HUiufj n( Eniluxl"— Dalf'i 
. L o'« "Uuitllgbeik. " 

fOormpiiDdBSti, &c 



llON ORDEES OP KNIGHTIIOOO COX- 

E!ftRBl> OX DRlTI^in SUBJECTS. 
bl of Britifh anVgeolB to nacppt ind wrtr 
Md«n of knif{lilboo(i is a qtirstioa which 
I been dincuaned, aod more iIiau once in 
ta of ** K. & Q." Fourteen years ago I 
( to t»y (i"* S. T. 282);— 

nnonllv n * * • ' t!iat llie rfpilntioni «lill 

fn Ibe vif / Lifta, reUtifii; to Ilia 

[ i.i.d we. I -Ji orO«rs of kniubthotwl 

. '., (., Jji US (.iviiUiitt auJ itnons not 

'L« lerTAhl^ iif li^e crmn are C"ti- 

'•'■'Til nli;clt ta niiulo to etiforco 

r irn] U tttiea the jetioa deco- 

u" 

^Mtpeaa of IhJB itatcmetit was not then 

IPJDid I b«li«TB that ibe ever iDcr«>fl^in^ 

r o{ nindern pmctiee ItM heeo nndoubtedl; 

ectioa I thi-ri iDdioitu). 

|.iuiiij of our ino«t emineiit men 
nd letlera hnve reoeivcd and 
ieoontions conferred by foreign 
^» u tokerm of their aiipr<ciatiaa of 
' rmdercd to linmnottj which our own 
BubV «M nowiUind or uunble to r«w>rd. 
me «bo bu moifd in society in London 
loru tho corTectnee* of ttii» iilatemcnt, and 
itt eftrroboration of It, Only a 





few months n^o we read with plcaanre that the 
eminent electrician Sir William Thomaoa bad 
recfired nl the hands of the German Emperor 
the bi^lieat diBtiuctiona ecieutific man can receive, 
the decoration of tbo Ordre pour la Mi'rite, TbosQ 
fftidb^vc nireudcd mcetinfja of the British Auo- 
ciation know that others of onrMran^ wear similar 
decorntJona. The obituary notioes of tbo late 
pditor of the Timia^ Mr. Chenery, make as aware 
that be bxd received tbo d*onr«tjon of the second 
clus of the Medjidieb, Dr. Freemuu (prinoe of 
British hlfltoriADs) Appends to his name "Koiehfc 
of the Or1«-r of the ii<defmer" of Greece. The 
Into Sir Henry Colo, K.C.B,, was B(ioken of oa 
'Hhe best decorated man in Eofzland"— a dis- 
tinction which I beliere now pertains to Sir 
Francis Ciiiiliffe Owen, C.B. Every time a foreign 
soTcroij^n is enteKained at the Guildhall vr(> reiul 
of foreign deooratinns bestowed and accepted, and 
publicly worn. Every lima that some great 
citUmity of 6r6 or Sood evokes the practical 
hi>npvoleocA of the cilix^ns of I/ond-m wo rend Ibat 
ihc Lord Mayor and uihirs Iibvo received from 
the sovereittn of the country benefitted foreign 
orders iu acknowleduTDent of their philanthropy. 
I tarn to tbe Catholit Oirtttoiy ; I see there the 
names of some of ntir most noble and ancient peers, 
r.tj , the prime jiid^'e in the court of obivalry, the 
K<ir) MAmIi«l, l>iike of Norfolk ; ibn Mnrqnia of 
Btit4>; the JCurln of JJenbi^h, Aabburubam, Gaina* 
boroogfa, and Grauiiid, as well as oihers, pe^rs 
»ud baronetf, nil recorded as knights of high 
foreign orders of obtvatry, which orders they have 
not (^nd could not have) received in accordance 
with tb^ oft-quoted "P. O. Regnlittioos,'^ and 
which t bey certainly have not received Her 
Miij(*at;'s formal and duly gazetted permission to 
receivt* and wear. Again, Mr. Foat«r'a Pttrag* 
a^d Borontt^ge farther makea me aware that the 
Duke nf Sutherland, the Mnrqnises of Donegot 
nod Ditb, the Lurds Braye and North, Biironesa 
Burdett Coiitte, and a host of [>cnun3 below p««r- 
ago rank (tf,«;,, Sir William Armstrong, C B., Sir 
H<nry Besseuier, Sir Oscar C'Uyton, Sir Robert 
riart, K.C.NLG., Sir John O'Sbanawy, KCM.O^ 
Sir Edward Reed, IC.C.B. Sir Rlohtrd Owen, 
K.O.B.) have Bccept»d. and some, to my personal 
knowledge, wear, foreign decorations for which 
lh»y hitre not received, iu:d (as the " re^iuUtiona" 
atsnd) for which they nre Incapable of leceiTingj 
the royul licence. I want to know if the 
st'gma of "illegality" in, seriously, to be affixed 
in all the^e instances I have mentioned, and 
in the dozens of like cases I might mention; 
or if it is not the faut that the '* regulations," at 
lesbt in the ca«e of civilinna, are prscticatly 
obsolete outside the prccincla of the court. Or, 
to uo to a lower grade of tbo social aoale, la it not 
a fact that many distinguished manufAotnrera 
hare received at reoe&t international exbibiliont 



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(0A&3L. Jdlt Itf.'B 



ibcM deconUona (I believe not wiLhont aonid 
mm protefta on the part of cotirt flQDkej?<) ? Oae 
cannot Uke up a tin of CoUa&u's mustard or 
read an Bdvertiiement of BriafmeadB pianos 
without B#eing that the cue is ai I bare Htatfld it. 
And y(»t I hare recently heard the ''F. O. ReKO- 
Utinna " qcortd as stilt bindinij; upon &U men ; 
as if the acofptance and wearing of a foreign 
order wen at leaat ** petty treaaon," and abso- 
lutely illrgal ; and I beliera these aasertiona — 
m»de, o( c'jur«e, by thoee who were not them- 
iclvea exposed to like temptation— hare recently 
had some (I do not know how ranch) counten- 
ance from coQrt oflioials and the Lord Cha^lbe^ 
Uin'a Officct. I shall, therefore, be ({lad if oanipetent 
readers of " N. & Q." will kindly answer for rae 
Uiia simple ijuestJon, — Have the '* K. O. K^gula- 
iiooi," which forbid the accepunce by JBriitKh 
aabjccts, DOW (or hare they ever had) any hjal 
force, except with rc^rd to those who (tike the 
membera of the "terrioes" or of the Mrj)$ diplo- 
matifive) are in the immediate lerrioe of the 
crown? 

I apprehend that these " regulations " have as 
little legal force to prerent a civilian from receiv- 
ing and wearing a foreign decoration as they 
would have if they attempted to prencribe the 
colour or shape of his clotnea. Her Majesty has 
an nndoabted right to prescribe the garb in 
which Rhe will receive peraona Bt her court, and 
a person would be guilty of a great violation of 
good taste who even attempted to breiik her 
rrguIatioDS ad hcc. But the <iue>tUon I aak is 
not one of taste, but of legHliiy, I wtint t<i 
know, first, if these " F. 0. ReguUtioni" tiive 
ever bad an^ legal force ; and, secondly, if I am 
not correct in supposing that, if they ever hud 
anob legal forcf, they are now as practically 
obsolete (outside Hor Klajesty's court) as the 
still unrepealed Scottieb law which makes it a 
penal net for a barber to ihave a man on the 
"Sabbath-day. I donbt if half the old sump- 
tuary laws hare been formally repealed. 

I Apprehend ttut the fiutstion of foreign orders 
Is " ou all foun" with that of foreientitlee. That 
■ucofiaful Hebrew financier (but Rrittsh subject) 
Abraham Moecs, niuy receive, without ({iteiition 
from anybridy, thn iIiIq of " Diron Screw," con- 
ferred by tho r<^ij,'oing Duke of rumperniokel- 
Kalbabratcn ; but if ha wiabrs to be received at 
oinirtby kia brand new litlu Un nmit obtain Ilor 
M>}..ti,'- r^f. !" ■' Hut I alto apprehond 
1' f to go to c'rtirt, hn ftuiy 

••*■' liametjt a« B*ron Tbi«, or 

Ch'valiar I it having the stigmi of 

iHegKHty alii •. Va not I rsad of t^<^ 

Baroo de Wormt, M.P , and other sli 
foctfim litfeaT 7 crnirfn^N )t, |« so also 
rfffara to fori and ' 

•luotigh Uie aatjj 'tinne to ; 



those regalationf, and miy even enforce lh*n 
upon the immediate servante of the crown, at 
make their observance a condition of attendtf^^ 
At court, it is much too Ute in the day to sapj 
that the hnndredi of British sultjrtcu wba *^ 
been of^^re<l such matkf of nppreciAiion byfo 
eovprtigna will be prevented trotn accopv " 
on Bttiog oociaions wearing) them by tbh 
the taunt of illegality, which, after all. is flm^ 
only on "re^ul-itlun* " which are prtctioally ] 
obsolete aa, I believe, they are void of JcgU loxd 

J. WOODWAI 



SWIPTJANA. 

I enclose copies of the letters in nr 
respecting n supposed charge aguii. 
Hr^wed by Rer. Dr. Trail lo Mn«. J- 
of Dr. Percy, Bishop of Dronmre, nut/ 
liqMtt. The paclcet containing the 
scribed, ** letters of my denr Father 
Tlie letter from Dr. Trail respectiu,; 
Scott'i ediiion of Swift's works is, I thtsk, 
eminently deserving of prinL 

Mr. PaThr'i Fint Dfetarati-m. 

1 cnnoot enough regret tl'at n* «.,'i. ...:(- .;, ..i 
without pcrmistinn for that purp> 
Retired, l>« publickly quoted ; iktfl i- 
unkiiiil, bccnu^fl uniLUtliorixo 1 
■i'lte. 1 uviif particular om^u i 

hiie the WitisfBotioii to be r.1 _^; 

tlio Btory l>e genprally refjort**.! i ti iije mufitrj. tu> ei •<u*r» 
''ncept t)iii report c»n Im ditcuvtiretl of the criiuiMl 
fact, no DxaniiDKtioni reliitiva t<> it are fom.tl to tt*^ 
nor does it appear that auT audi were evar uk«n. 

lai^ited) i'. luiaa 

Bstljmorc, 28<k May, 1767. 

Re^rd for trutli and juitice t» : 

doaJ rer]titre mention tn Ve mftde ' 
ny<! which b«9 Iteeii lolj of Dca : 
flditiou of ilio Taller (are toI. 6»». p. \ii< 
niil to Lave ocraiJAnod liim (n l(«v« ). 
Kilroot in Ills jT'ir' ' ' " ' ' 

Tltc Ilcrcrctiil ' 
•rcidpntatly nri 
witl 

lltKIa .1,, , „, 

]triii»naed I* 

" In con-. ■■ ^-. 'f ttiit I 

IiHve nisiK' a [ u 
hute the «Mtiafrtt' 
it bs fionertillv 
except ttii- 
(ael. No . 
nur doei It Mji'^ir Uiu-. . 

UkUyinore, npar Carr 

PtVia itrV, Itr. TWd, 



' B. X. Joii n, •M-i 



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43 



elusion or iir. PuVar iru pahliiilkei] hv Mr. ^'iC'>I 



■' 'l»M ■■ ■•- ^- ^ 

Knation t> [>rforB mentioned. 

■;iin"t .Vr' I wrmld hare ren- 

,(. c-ii»rT. I 

11 kwller (Con 

..... . - il't Ifunother 

Kdon be nUlcil lor tim( tbc ezpreuioafl rcspcctiuK Mr. 
jkcr wi'l l>« *«ftoae<l. 

■••n; C'<ri««;iiiiii]enci Of 'lu'uwiun tboulil kriM 

Hiint, J coiiinlrr i: an ni^t fir'*p<!r lliot tliP 

documentf ■tiouM i-o lo'ijul nilli sncie one nf 

of I>roii».)ro'» family. 1 hope, indoed, 

yeny mijr nri«e •xi tho •itVi''et. m it woaM 

Betawv ftni IM r. r-.---'- ! ■ liration irnkei 

UMMw, Tiic rrafpoiiilifncti 

^^^____5h my li iTi'l*. ur.| ; not T»i»liiii(j 

iMorey tl- 01 Mr. Ni;.^U mj|ilioi In Mr. 

jker'* fir' ', Mr. I'urker re»jily ut^ntoJ 

nit it. i>' - ^,.s.irj to llio Tindiculioa of Dr 

if I'i obarKot«r. 

; b»v« Mina olbar Uttera of (li9 Bl«hop*t to ma on the 

nry n«w9 of Ibe dky. wliich 1 at Qr*t tli'jught of 

nimiUiiiR sUo to y>)u ; Uul ns th'y nro Ihto'iio <]iiUo 

Ht tM« Utcr p<<riiKl, I bIi«!I iltiUiny ilieiii, 

[ froin ymi thkt it woiiUl hs some Kntt^dca- 

•bop'* fuinily to liocioe the MtWity of \m 

■ •■*- ' '■ I u( »i;lis. Mi4 llip iiitftic't lip 

cdwitii 'tcionrc iiiij lilrT.tlurt- 

■I, Mi-lfim, Willi imicli K—|>'.'<;t, 

{Signed) Wk. TRilL. 

UddruMd, H" litcJ, EL-tuii, N'orthtrnplouibird. 

I>A!4ieL Ull'fVKLU 
10^ MjrJUlctou Square. Clerltanwetl. 



[Mlt^ HnrcniKflow.— Hure any nf the reuflfM 

, '* N. & Q" noticej i Mlhcr PxtmonJinarv mi-i- 

b1c« in t'le •ketch of the life of lilr?, Hult'liiu*iin 

» the prehiHo lo ibo Mcnoirt of Col. 

< f Mm. UuLcliifi^oQ Mttfs, pp. 12-3, 

if fiiilu-r.Sir AlUn A(mI«7, died in M.iv. lG3it, 

Itlxty-third year of hi^ ix^e, fie innrried when 

I fortT-eij|(hl (p. 12), ibiu iibout ibe year IClfi 

ri6Iti. liis wife. Lucy St. Juba, wns *' uot aliovr 

iMa" ftt ihiii lime, wkioli would tf'^B the date 

her birth m Kfito, or nt earliest 1&91). Now 

il« lUte (K mnd« very nolikfly by certiiin circum- 

rvlatcd by Mr*. IliUcbinson. We reod 

[toy inotbrrl wu <A * noble faonil/. bcinfr lb? 

.., . / k;, i..),,, p(. J„i,n_ „r M.ldUrd 

'•; Itrr failicr&nd tnutbcr 

'(> yfiri- (.f ftj;-' nii.l yet 

1 td t>a 

'.. I.cr 

hri vollrtit 

I. : liim, nod lO 

that Mmfl nt- 



rtntr up Uil uiy uitUe* t-i. JuUn tii. Ji^Lu, UttMf 



murrind in tlio dftUfrKter of Sir Tbamni (^ten, tb«7 W«ro 
»lln . • [ ' ■ ■ ■! ■- ' 1 . Tber« 

we" I't ruiinl 

ill ". '.lie ma't 

|.j.r.i;ul liur<>t\^ u,il h-.r cl iei- i>i«(';?r4. who, 
onvioufl itt it, used Iter ankinillr, Yut all tba 
-i^..-'.- i.i -t CAUie I't tliotn 'till turned tl)«tr ftddreiif.-a to 
her. wliicb lUo io bcr youthful i[iuuc:iicy negUct^'J, till 
orte o[ grenter ttsmr, rvttit'^ ktiJ rvpiitfltlofi llun ths 
rait hippcntd t i .• in 1ot« witli h^r, nnd tr» 

nunaj^A it m d ' iny mother could not but 

ont^rlKia liitn. ' w)r«, wbo h&d a tnultier'e 

kinditeu fnr her, porio&dod her to remove bvrevlf fr>'m 
tier eiiton' «nry by K^itiK elon^ with bcr to the li'e of 
Jeney,* where her futber wa« i^overuor, which the did." 

Noir Sir Thoma) Lei|;bton wAt iolcrted in tho 
charoh of St. Peter Port, Onoro^fry, Feb. 1, 160II, 
when Lucy would haw been only nine yejiri old, 
b.id fibe been bnrti in 1£9D or ICtlO ; uertjtialy 
nut likely to buve " nuiton " or to be n cauae of 
jealousy to her siaterii. But to luuke the miatAks 
in the diLte clear lo domooatratioD we hare oaly to 
seek to iho little rillftge church of LydiorJ Tre> 
googe, Wilti. There we fiod on the north side of 
the altar two lur^^e doors, on the outside of which 
is given the pedigree of the St, John family, and 
within liTe-Bize painlioga of Sir John St. John, bis 
wife, his six dutt^bterii (of whom Lncy was the 
yi^UDgeHt), and bis son Sir John, with hia wif9 
Aone. duut;hter of Sir Thomaa Leighton, and the 
following io^criptioo: — 

" Hiire l'4(b tl>e l>ody t>f Sir John S* John. Kni. who 
married Lucy, daughter and ci^hcire cf Sir AVftUor 
Mun;;orfi'nl nf Farley, Kn<, by wliom hf> li^d i**n« 
Walter, that died younir, Sir John S* .loiin. Knt. and 
(Jir-mct, OhTer. tiiat died yf'unit, Kulberine, Anne, 
Jane, Elinor. OarburA, Lucy, and Martha, tbut died * 
child. Ue deceased inb Sept., 15i'*. 
If any reader can give tiie tho date of Ltioy St. 
Johu'^ birth, which \% not in the Lydianl Trpi^on^r^ 
re|;i4ter<t, they only be^innin^ itbnitt the middle of 
the seventecDtli century, it will, I feel aurc, corro- 
bcjnile the inferences I have drawn from these 
varioua sources, Uapik. 

GaninALDi^RniEsrEARR. — Fran Elpi« Mc- 
ICDa*8 Oaribaldi, Mitthtilungtn it'it Sdnem Ltlim, 
reviewed in the Tima of .Tuoo IS. ^h'lws (bat. Ib» 
liberator'ei jrrandfalher, Joseph Mari;i G-tribnldi, 
married Catherine Anielie von Neiibof at Nii£;|te, 
Prnaftio, on Aug. IC. 1730. The ilUraled Theodore 
run Neuhof on becoming King uf Coraica hiul sent 
Ituribal'li, bis confidant, to hia oM mother at 
Toddcnboh, near Nugaeberg ; ha there nuirried 
ibe inonarcb'it winter, ninl eTpniually Httled nl Nieo 
a« a diictor, Tbi« uuauspecled German itmin in 
Guttbuldi'a ancestry induces me to point out tho 
Gerruitiiic orit;tn of hia natiie and its ftynouyniity 
with .S bilk "I •ere. (Jiirivald or Gorwald, the eJl^lie^t 
known bearer nf the naiiie, wan a Bar.iriiin ehiof 
who fijiured iu North Italy in the sixth century. 
Furslemanu'a AUditHttchtt Nameubuch^ \B'tG,^ires 

* Sir T. Leighton was governor of GuernH9> 



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[OaaX.Jirfctl>,'M. 



numerODs Inter boniODjins and ortlingrnpbies. tbe 
Utter inolodiDg Oernld, the form which the Nor- 
inuia borrowed frotu the FreDchiiud injportrd into 
England, In France it became a suriKinic as 
Ginutl, Gueroult, &&, whereas in Kni^Und it 
eeetua limited as sach to the compound Fiiz-^eralJ. 
But tbe most interettioe point for ui is its etymo- 
logy. Qtr=spemt; ituM» wield, braudish, sbnkc. 
8b«k«pear« and Garibaldi are therefore identical 
in mMQiDg. The only wonder is Ih^it ilii4 hits 
never been pointed out before. J. G. A. 

r«rii. 

CftnMWKLL'fi Canncht. — A writer Id the Genllt- 
tfuiti't MttgaxiM, quoted by Mr. Qotiime in UU 
recently i-^sued volume of selections from thv 
RcrieD, p. 2G8, »uy«:^ 

" Ollrer Cromwell b>d written 0:1 bit o«nnon. 'O 
Ix>r<l open Thoa m; lipi, nnd my month iboll ibow forth 
Tliy iiraiee.' " 

Akoh. 

VioLOKCEr.Lo. — Jlr, Wedgwwd, in bis Con- 
itaftd Etymolnjus^ says, $.v. *'D>iII," "n vioinn- 
etiU should pMpt-rly signify a eujiill violin." J3ut 
thii \» a mistake, nnd one which, though common, 
I niu surprised Mr. Wedgwood thnuld Imve fallen 
into. Viol'ynci}lQ is not a nnmll violin, but a snutll 
vicUmt (a basi-viol or contni'basso). Viola (cf. 
Old Eog. viol) is tbe originnl Italian word, fruiu 
vhicb all tbe othera nrc formed, nod from thi^ we 
have tbe diminutive vioUno nnd the imgniftntative 
viohwt* with it« diminativc violoncello. I do not 

fretcnd to give llie correct Knglieb eqnivalenta, as 
am no mu'iician, still le^s :i mnatc^U inttruuicnt 
maker ; but I do know that of these four in^ttni- 
n)ent% tbe x^iolina is, as might be eipected from 
ita being a diminutive, the highest in tone, the 
viol'X noxt. the vialonctUo next, and the vioJont 
lowest of nll.f 

Priif. Skeuit give* a oorre«t account of the*ie 
wiird^ (»,v. " Vi'd*') except timt be dprivw cioliuu 
and viotoHt from viWo (a fortii which <hwn nM 
exist), instetid of from rial 1. \ Btippme lii^ tbouglit 
that the masculine forms vvAino and viohne could 
not oume from a feminine, viola. But if Ibia trua 

* An Itiliitn fric'l : ' ' ' > "'i, tcUs mo 
tb«t ifTiXt^rie v'tila ii I ' 

■f AccordniT to ^'1 ■ "Bnmowbat 

larifer " tliaii tlie tioiit *ii'l " ■ tiUlt luwer in Ci.im[i«ra "; 
the »<n'riKC-/ffi, "a bun-viol of four strlnus. or a Iimo- 
violin wit! ■ ' ■' ' ■ ' 

loHtr 1 1 
larj;.«il i>i. 

tuRx-l no iiil.vu !*■ luflf t. 
oo«ttrft.|)ii«>«) i — o*ll^(l nlt-i 
C..ri I.. - I - -.. 

ail' >Ti, 

yr ■ ii ti 

t«i •- 

Ur- ... ,. , . _.. ,.... ..10. 

vklflli la by no ineaM always tb« can. 



bis idea, be is mistaken. JtaL fern, ooane 
iomctimca make tbetr diiiiinutim in ino. 
c^ua (bouse) makes eiinufi, and nfv**r m? 
camera (bed-room, clmmber), cit*' 
(ca^IeX aqKilino, &c.; whilst, n> to ti. 
one, it is of common gender. Vwta can nc 
a mifprint, as it occura twtoe in tbe rninei 

y fa 
SyJenbam HilL 

A "DirKRsa OiT.vi.o.jpE." — To the reryj 
terestiog iJieJims C*t(<ilo.jtir^ e-ctcnd'mg t« 38 p4| 
compiled nnd published by J. W. Jarvis & ] 
2P, King William Street, Strand, lo which 
drew attention C* S. ii. fi20, y..^ ' , .ui 
made ; ns, rr>r example, iiibUou \\ 

iugi nf CharUt tHckntt. by Jti;,..--. k 
Hwdinyt ftom th4 Dorics 0/ ChnrUt Vicitu^ 
John A. Jennings (IBBS) ; ttud I'tn fv',nf,;,7..i|| 
of Charki Difbmt'i RA'idi»Q%, by 
(1S71J. Kenny Mendows's /ira^< /. ^'-^ 

NickUhy are uot mentioned. To tbe tiurlfin] 
imitations ntny bo added " Tk« BattU IIVti M; | 
W^ind, by Ch-a I)»ck*n», author ..? 
I'ftptrt, Bamaby Fiuljt, &•:," Thi- 
" ZVif Pnppti Shoxcman't ^/bttm, ii 
G.iVArni " (uo date), one of tbo clev. 
imitalions with which I am Bccpiairiii'<! 
Fiictt ill ihc Fiie, given on p. 21 of the / 
CiUnlogm is afcribed to '* Utd Gap." lu uLtjtr 
c.itidogMcs— of ubiub one is now befure me— Uis 
given with lbi»nunounceiu*"i' " a .i.-:i....,..i ... .,.^ 
late CbiirM Dickens." 1 
anlhor, tbo clever and vc:--i.-- -^ 
Piirdoii, whose name i^ gireu on tb^ 
the second edition, pijbtihhcd by J 1 
wood, 1866. In the prernce Mr. Purdun enya ; 
" ^'imo of myfii^-nli liave been iitps.'^/.I t' tr. 
'. in tiiy inaTiiic ■ ' 
• of tlii'a voliimc, 111 

- :- !,<.•• <i(<>lie«. I tail .-.,.. ..., .„ 

L Qftniiu( hul teel ll^Ltiertftl by llie ((iiiii'liinaii 
•eniKl^KOe. if anr. is uiiltil''Dti«niil ; ftiid tlul 
may. unconictxuiljr, hftr« souhtiine* u>l>-|)teil ■. 
Mtiiural Ktid [»ii»ulSr K« that o{ Mr. DukaiisV 
likva never, in my b(<:r*ry career, en4#avi _ 
iniiint? Ii'i, or any other writer's, ftcuJlarlUea of i 
or iiiL-idi'iiL" 

A QaAisrEpiTiru.— Mr. \\i 

of Farm iktfltds, &c., writes to r 

'* T r^ni* nfm'^ fin eiiltapli tn an < • 



• .lk|« It w 



• <l n vrl_s r.i-i i,|.iri 

■EwU ' 



I do not rouiemb«r to bavo aecDlbv*] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



45 



Some of ibe eoDtributon to "2f. & Q.' may be 
ftble to throv some light oo tis onciB. 

WlLLUX AXDIKWS, FJt.H.S. 

Bull Utavy Ckb. 

WiiXTAX liLLT.— Pcrb«p« the following mea- 
lioa of bi< cftrlj liutoi^ uuj be new to some of 
or readers : — 

' Tb« aruiaot uf tome K&tiTity men, ftre k vckk 
■•<! villy liWe onto 1V\//iiini Lilly, and he ii neither 
'^4St]«in«n. but K noiir^ L^borfr or Ditcben 
-■^Uk lo £«*Ki(<(r-Mrr<*. brought ui* to Lchdott, 
i bjr /'d/in a Taller in the f^tran.!}, vhareby 
uU cluii« tbe force of th«t *riw™«"f," He — 
r*'t, by Juha Ucjrdon, Gent. (l«ORion^ 1664), 
P. 106. 

T. W. C. 

MiLTOs's BiULB. — '■TheTniilees oftbo Urili^h 
uscutn tuive just piircb>i«c*l MiIiod'h Ilible. It 
9, iu tbe poefa bandwtiliD^ Ibe dulofl of ibe 
' biji cbildrea " {Echo, Jum 31), 

DaMIU. fiirVTELL. 

10, MjtUleton Sqturt, ClnlcenwelL 

PAR^.t.BL PaS6*0E& — 
1. ^* How r«v«i«ii4 » tlie fu< of iLu Ult pile, 
LmUdc tncttquaiitT." 

Coagrar*, J/Qartiug Oridt. 
" Sp»red mJ t/lert h/ time, 
Looking Ir&nquHlitjr." 

Byroo. CK Har., iv. IW. 

. ^ Ab ! welt nuf we hnp«, wben aar abort life li i^ine, 
Tn in**i in »<iin« wr>rid of mure pen»*nent bli*e ; 
For* II ■ r.tp nf tJt« bun-l, li&sitf'iing on, 

!• kll w ><:h other in thii." — .Moore. 

"Ti" I - '■■■ "y-' tli«t mere friffiid- 

ibip t '1 (liek*! ')f iLe Imnil 

hi ti.- ,.%■*— Th»ckor«7, r*< 

Jltmojouj, dia(>. Ixxif. 

Javdkk. 
MA!»)ioT^M\r NOT, — ThU exprvision nrctim in 
lbs K&llid nf " I'lip Rtichiinted Riog," Bachin'.-t 
ineifitt Bntl^fU oj thtHorth, rol. l p. 167 (edit. 

• Yo'ii : ■ ; jn Bahrtine, 

To J ■ . , _ - : 1 tbftt MaARo^ 

TtrB Liutxl Uint ilo«>» not eee." 

V*n aojr of your corrc^pon'ieuts give illustralions 
' Ihie luaget I b&ve oerer M>en tbo «xpr»tion 
efore. K. C. BiitKUKcic TKaity. 

Tmb Lord's Piurica.— Aa old preacber, wbo 
3v "> went bonie lo tbe b«tt?r land, 

<l«r when iisiDn L)iat KninJ pmycr, 
juj_vi'.I, '*Oive us diiy by dny our 
iJ," An*!, i>6'^''^> *' Loiivo na not in 
.It ,L. iv^r li. fr.Mt, .., ii " I iijnjr day 
S and sbntiik 
{iL ^ I '<a<I iiM into 

IcmpiftiloQ. NbWf will some reader kindly tell 
}v% wbetlier my old friend'e interpretation was 
eocnoil 7, wbiso using tbe pnycr, follow bis 



I. 



pmctioc, IU I cannot but tbiak tbere is both 
reason end beauty in bis reiuitnR. 

Fatdkr F&AKIC. 
OlnobigbAtu. 

Field-Namks i» IIalstocc. — A. curious in- 
stance of the chanf;e of fletd-D&mes to perpetudto 
the politiiral opioions of ibe owuer occurs in the 
pariiih of H.'iUtock, Dor?«i, Tbe estate to which 
I refer ii called Sydney Farm, and was offered for 
»ale Ob Juno 6 loat; and from tbe auctioocerV par- 
titiuLirs of Kile I draw tbe 0eJd-aamc9 wbicb fol- 
low. A former ovaor of this property wnn Thomas 
Hollia, born April 14, 172^t, dcceaseil Jnfin.-iry 1, 
1774, of whom on sccotiat may he read in 
Utitcbin.4*s Ihrsetj third edition, vol. ii. p. 90; 
and I h»To no doubt that lo htm the ciisling 
OAmes Are due: — 



TlittwUiV. 

I'l^tuie. 

l.il'btirtui Mead, 
Xeriilieiiu 
Sllrrfilltl. 

.^Uttin'e Mead. 

AKen. 

)i'. !v.l«. 

II . li-4 Pint Orchard. 

Sv<liicy P«mi Hooee. 

li»iii|drn Mflftd. 

I(eij[ht-tii Mrai]. 

The'JcodOldCftUK. 

Little Cause. 

r<ur». 

L^ng Burton, Sherborne. 



t'altrtrerf. 

Oenern. 

Vetay. 

Iiodlow Farm Houce. 

Berne. 

BtailAliaw. 

January the 30th. 

Up[4r January. 

litutibc. 

Keoit 

Uaniion. 
I><-»ti'e Bill. 
WhitefleM's PI. iota ti on, 

C. H. Mato. 



A FiiKifcii Political CaRiosiTi, — Some 
Prencb politicians have bwn amusing tbemselTes 
by piittiu|f toj^ethcr a list of names of electors of 
Arr:i4 iu micb a fashion ns to form a sentence. It 
i<^ ^ivcQ by tbe Frin^'ait as being a " buUetin do 
vote '■ : — 

Daufibin I>el«(>tae« Bras 

I)crr«(ic8 Votnot FhilipM 

SotsoiiB Mietran Dsrrca 

Iluiuioct Prinoe lit>t6 

Leroy Coaraijenx Vienna 

Varaigne Vaact Lecomta 

D«log« Haneer Deiwirie 

lr(>iiis(lr« l^aliyiiua lienfant 

Fiioux Carton Parrai. 

Thi* IS lo 1.* reuJ: — 

" r>Mii}ih)n A<- Frnnee, Mia von horatne ot lo n>i I 

" Vn. 1 jf le maitre i>it«ax dc la place. 

'* V..i- *n piinc* ofioragt'in. V* : cnwrre 

laliri'itf. ' L«, Phili)>i»e, dcvrait I'oier. 

" Vicaiit! la Loiute d« Part* I 

•• LTofant d' Arras." 

This is sufficiently ingenir^iis lo be worth a nole. 
William E. A. Axon. 

Ki.iZADHTii Scott.— A lidy of lhi4 name (born 
Rutherford of Bdiabur^h), but better known in con- 
nexion with tbe poet Bunv, wrote a poem, entitled 



46 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



IfltfeB.XJui.TlO.'M. 



Atonao and Cora, wh!oft, ulihnu{i1i»bQ died to 17B7, 
was Dot piiMisheii until IBOl, nad then probabljr 
inn few copies only, priot^H in Lon<1oTi,with a dedi- 
cation to the Countess of Elgin. This, nfler n |t>ng 
searcb, I have nt liist foiiad, :iDtt gutlier from it a 
select list of subscribers, incIiKlio^ iDioy of the 
aristooracy in nod nboiit N'^rlhumpton, auRi;e8tiTe 
that the editor was to be found in that qn&rter. 
Can noy reader of " N. & Q." name liim t It will 
be remembered thnt Mrs. Scott was " the guid- 
wifc of Wfluchnpe-hoM3p," whose rlijmiog letter to 
Burns nnd his reply, both here {ifiven, msiKQ the 
book an interest to tbo collcctori of Duratiana. 

J. 0. 

Arms op CniLOLKfts Frkncb Kikob — The en- 
closed cattinfE, from nn article in a recent Figaro on 
the sale of Count Uoyer do Nnrd's library, »eeu»«to 
deserve reproduction in '' N. & Q.," if, as I believe, 
Ibe fact it records is one" not generally known ":— 

" La prentior tivre qui me frap|>0 est le .WrHui J<»n 
Chiiiti D. A'. TfitamenluM. fcreo et litin, Ce Tolaoio 
prewnU coltn pmrUcularitij curieme qa'il porle las Armes 
da roi Henri IV., £eu«oiiR dti Fruice et de Nnrane. 
Bormoot^s tie U oourotino ro;ftIp, ct sudirfiui <1o ce< 
^euiwiu, un dMiiiiltm. II est cuheux <!» coi>AtstUP ici 
qno Us rnis lie Frnnce pDrtaieot un (]'>uiibin tlsns lours 
anuM tant qu'tls o'lmiicnt pu Je pa«t4^it6." 

iloss O'CoSSFLU 

LivooLVsniBR WoDDS. — Bug ■= conceited, 
D(iiiy = remarkable, ertmordinnry, excellent (ex- 
ccllioji): *' She's a daisy Uv^n for work " = a gnod 
workin({ girl. '* I 'm n liaUy body for puildiiiK " = 
I eat a great deal of pudding. F, J, F. 

MKM0RI4L Of A Skuvast.— A- J. M.,in the 
second paragraph of his query "Nonsuch Palace'* 
(C^ S. iK. 378). states that he has not met with a 
lueiuoriul of a "faithful Bervani" unteriur to ll!25. 
The following copy of an iuscriplion, in incited 
capital le'.leri on u smiill copper pltte, in Bed- 
diugtOD Church, may be of intereil to bitn: — 

Herelietlt thebolyof E:is<bi-lh Rn;s 

wiJilovie suiiiclTxio lertAiit t" Sir 

Frnvricci C»rL-i*? Kntylil wlm ilrceied 

tliexiiiii"<<l«y of Decemb' Aa'a D ui 1509, 

G. Bl.ACK&E-MuBUA!(. 
Surrey. 

AxciKKT MoTTORH, &c. — Among the loscrip- 
lions on ancient bonnes f find non** of ymir r/>rre- 
(•(♦ondeuls luw Doiiced lliat cirved on tho colan- 
natle ead of Konnstry Hall, Lancanbire. which is 
just dtsceruible through a (Muliiis; of jirtiiit, it is 
interentintf fu cointncniorattng the incrntititde of 
Charles 11. to tbo Derby fiuuily, nod ii in the 
fuHnwiog ItTtni; — 

" Jmnrs, K*rt of DrrliV, Lnnl riF Mun anil (lie Iilt-i, 

pmiitlwti Alt .I'.iiif* r.i.'l i.f Ti.rir. i r r*. ,,I il- 

fluUfc'httfr o( ' 

l)UHliNJt<l, Jam 

for atrenunUSlT a'lHTH.i: rn I .-I'lrn-* II. 1^ .i\ I, «i..i iimi-r't 

a bill paascd uusolmously by both Ilcruirs of Parliamcot 



for restoring to the family the silate Wst by his Isratty 
to biro." 

Thero is also an nnoient edifice called " Hall TtV 
Wood," near liollon, which beats this ioscriptUA: 

ltM3 
N 

A.K. 
RoBBiiT M. TiiritaouD. 

Inn Sigks. — 1 have ucl with two Ltncvlndiiif 
inn signs that are not inenttMoed in 11 ' " 

tori/ of tSignltoiiTfla^\'it. ,'^ "VUfi IIuv-Ti 

in Well Lane, Oraiilbam, uud " The ;- .,,.. 

Briilge-end Road, Huceby. Cctubwit i 



Wo mutl refjueit corrnaitoti'liintsdstirinj iiiforma 
on family mstten of only i-ri\-mta interest, t» sJGjt t 
niinps nnd sdJresiM to tlicir qaeriea, in order (' 
uuwers may be addrt»»eJ to litem direct. 



t«l 



L*T PaRDBHDAiiiw.— There was nn Int«t 
discusulon in " N. & Q." some iitontltA buck 
the question whether foreign PniteHiJOtii, net i 
copnily orilniiiptl, were periuiited lo botil ouhn 
preferment in Kugluud in the reigo of Rlji 
The question Wiui, 1 think, settled in 
tire. 1 shutd<I like further to risk whether 
instances, such preffruient wasnot given 
so that the qnestion of the ecdcaiastical 
of the Doa-episcopitl ministers wiis not rttkW 
volrcd ot all. Up to recent limpt the ~ 
Profe<ieor of Modern Historv at Oxfvnl, si 
flften a layuinn, was, <i: t'^'f'Vio, a preh 
Salisbury, and even now the Crown i», i 
prebemlary of 8t, DuvidV. But In ihi 
no ecclesiastical duties are attached. Did | 
Eh/.;tbethiin fgrciiiu Protcstunta perfurm any i 
(nave drawing ilivir ^ttpeotU) iu the cuihe 
where they held preferment } 

KOWARD H. MARSnALL, KaJ 

Halting!. 

Coy voKPLACK Book. — Could yoa kiadty 
form mo of n good way to compile a Jounu' 
cotiiuonplaco l)iM>k t Or perhaps one of 
cnrroBpnnilents might, should jou Xm ' ' 
My reason for troubling you is lo nhlj 
roughly good plan. J. lCR.it 

IIvAAMtic. — Will some corTC5pondcoli 
inform me to whatf.iuiily llie fulIowinK 
be attributed, namely,— Two cheTr 
between nine nmrllets aublo i 



V 

orli:.. 

■f '■ 



Whnt aw> tV. ■ -li| 
ikI title rit 
,... iiirff>l» • ' ■ 
•.i>U tif thr t- 
, iif Biariicd Juli , 
berg, daughter of Qn( r. iiaatuv W' 



' a X. jiTLT 18, ii.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



47 



Polnnd nnd Woiwo'ie, &c., and tbnt iheir 
Sldren are Princes and Princtsiea of Bulton- 
Whr 80; ami why not Prinoea of Hos^fr- 
hrmstadt I If the nuirrint'e wns niorKftntilifi 
^w, occorilins to the utrtct rules of Oerm;tn 
iqnette, nrc tbeso Prioccs of Bttltt^oWrij cntiUofl 
j nll^V theuiselves on t^rma of «qu:itity wiih tho 
|vfrt>iKa boas«!tof GemiftDj I And if ih« raarriofie 
A flcion of a junior branch of a Snion emnd 
pohy with the daughter of itn Eo^linh duke is 
Drgnnalic, how caui« thiitof a HisHiun tluke with 
I daughter of a PolUh couDt to be an rqunl one i 

G C. B. 

Scott.— Can anyone kindly tell me what the 
^latioQibip was betireen Thonms Scott for Scot), 
p aigoed, with othem, Ibe wnrmnt. of Charles I , 
bd Jsnies Scott who went to Ireliiml in the nrniy 

William ITfJ ANo, who wa« the "Princeas 
ilewcHyn " married by the luitir 1 Skotus. 

I CoKOo, the name of ibe rifer and territory in 
nnntoritd Africa, is, I auppoip, nPortnmie'e word. 
VbHt in the origin of the nmrie f The Chinese 
ord KooKow, or Congou, ia. according to the 
pelling of the present day in England, exactly tho 
Ifiip, (Jongo. R W. 

r&ompton. 

Pasisn«K»T OF "HoRsiso."— T-i the pnnish- 
eot of Aoninj;, as alladed to by Thackeray, still 
KUteot in nny En^liAb achool 1 It not, how l.nt<> 
|d it iurvive 7 Wni it ever ti^ed in Scotland 1 
! there any descripliona or iUn^tration** of it in 
er works T K- P. 

I Old Sono. — Can any of your rwder* give me 

freference where I ibiJt And a <iong of whit^h the 

lllowing are the first linei} I hive understood 

Lt it WAS Tery popalur at the end of the lust 

ntury; — 

** There was an old man to tlie Vt't*t cottntrie, 
A flaw in dli lea<« the lawyer hud fuuul; 
It wni nil ab'-.iiL felling nn oil • kV tri^e 
On what he contlJercd wai hii own groun'l." 

Ahok. 

lBir Waltkr Kat^kidii'b DicaTiTKR.— T wish 

ttsk, as Mr. Giirdiner doea in his liittor^ of 

nglandj vol. i. p. 122, in a nolp, Who is the 

ashler mentioned in the letter publiahed in the 

peodiK by Mr Brewtr to CliodnmnV Co'tti of 

tinjT JnmtJt /., ii. f)3, niid whfit beciiuie of her? 

■rhnps Bonie reader of " N. & Q." can give infur- 

'ktioa on lb« subjecL" 

Edward It VrvTA». 

Goii.DHALL CnATKi*— It is j.idt twenty yenm 
nro Mr. Buhn (3^^ S. \v, 3fifl) wrote to " N. & g." 
I inquire aa to whctlicr any inrnnmition could be 
jttnined relative to the register of inarriegca be- 
nging to (Jnildball Chapel, which was palled 
bwD about tho jrnr }ftiO. la CuDOingbaiu'A 



London it is tttitted to extut in the church of St. 
Ltwrence Jewry, bub thia does not appear to be 
the case. I am just now interehted in nil informa' 
lion concerning it, nnd oi I do not rriuetnlter 
seeing the queittion nnswcrfd in '* N. & Q ,"* I 
shall be glad, if it ha*, to be rironred with the 
reference, and if not, aball be obliged to any 
correnpoudent who can direct me lo any unpub- 
lished matter concerning either the reuisien or the 
chapel itself. JonH E. Phicb, F.S.A. 

27, Bedford Place, W.C. 

[We can trace no answer to Ma. Boas.] 

Or.D RirTURS : "Thirty data bath Srp- 
TmnKii,'' &c. — I have just read in one of tbe 
pnblicntions of La SoeUU det Andtm Textit 
Prav^ia the following, in an old poem Dt Com- 
;>u/o, written in tbe thirteenth cent nry, which is 
worth .1 note: — 

" Kn arrit. «n julrifp, sn sopl-mbr* 
A -XXI. jiUMBt rn nmembrc: 
Tout li aulr« oitt .xxxj joiir, 
Fort ferrien qi rtt li |tlas cour, 
Kn loi qae .xxriy, jurs ii'a, 
Sv plus ne nieio* n'i a*ra ji 
Foni en Tan qa ttsfrxtrei riont, 
Ad int ei a. eln«i avtent, 
.xxii., dr* lAitl est cnii* 
L'nd t|iio bixcitrcB citt chcUa." 

How old is our equiTntent ; and is any older 
known than the above French ? Tbohas Cox. 

TRKSCti Familt.— Playfair's Family AntvjHxty 
states tb.it the name Trench was derived from the 
seigoenrie of Li Tranche io Poitoti, of which it 
WHS formerly po«»e«eii (cf, Burke'd Peerage, art, 
" Clitncarty "). Ho says also that there were 
many /iLUiiliei of thii name in different p«rl« of 
France, all bearing the soino arint. nnd probably 
branches from one stem, viz Li Tranche, Lyon, 
in Brittany; LaTranchc.Montuyne. in Normandy; 
and l.-\ Tranche do la R<icbe, in (i;\scony, which 
last at on early d.ite settled in England. Pro- 
aiHnt»bly the present Anglo- Irish family are derived 
("ri-im tilt*. Cipiona pedigrees have been published, 
giving aII descendants of Frederick da la Tranche, 
who aettlL-tl in England IblH; but none, bo fur as 
I know, has traced the descent accurately from 
the old lino in Poitoii. Would it be possible to 
nlitain pedigrees nnd information of the different 
French families of tho name, so as to prove the 
exact connexian 1 To what books ohnuld ono 
refer? C. Mooii. 

^^Ks9ns. SiitiTiiOATB & Barrctt's Aoction 
CATAi.fHicrs. — These were offered for sale by- 
auction by Mesfi-a. Putlick & Simjwon a few years 
back, and I shall be glad lo know where they cad 
now be seen. J, Jt D. 

Ealhous or Att.nf^^R ^^svik-**, — \'^V<^■TO^.'^- 



^ 



48 



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Ailhouw. Any notices of familiM bearing that 
Biirnamo will be vcrjr welcome. 

J. P. Ei-MOjrD. 
64, Banaccorfl Street, Abenltao. 

MiTRica. — Whon was their a« di^eintinaed by 
the pceUtet of tbe Church of Entfknd ! 

NonTAL Clt-he. 

QroTATioK Waxtrd. — Siinn.ii»rim wrote, 
"Cttfltle. jum etvt'tin p«(ni ^luni'lDa tti" 
(" YieM, for lie;ivvu ii Hooier'd Lome "), 

ftnil Lbii in mid to he only n version of a line of 
AulitKtler. C;\n :tny reader give that line? 

C. A. Ward. 
Q»Toretoc)[ U.tL 

Upton OnsEALoar.— If any reader of "N. & Q." 
can furnish me any of tbe data uked for below, 
he will greatly aid me in 6ni«hing a literary work 
of aome magnitude. Tbe items wanted are : — 

1. Date of marriage of Mary, daughter of Sir 
Bagb Gotwortby, Knt., and aister of John, Vis- 
ooDQt Blaaierceae, to Capt. Henry Upton, ancestor 
of YtKOUOt TeDiplelowo. The dale U wanted to 
settle the dispute whether her fint son w;i8 born 
in 1623 or 1633. 

2. Parentjiiio and ancestry of Frauds Upton, 
Doctor of Physic, of London^ whoso ditiiflbler 
Mary married in 1711 Col. John Upton, father of 
the first Burou Tcmpletowu, Was he the Kroneis 
niatricuinted at Oxford, I674/.'i; or tlie Dr. Francis 
who was buried in Christ Church, London. Sept. U, 
1711. Iraring widow Sarah, who died at BaiL, and 
w;ia buried at Wrtton in 1739 ; or father nf John, 
who was a merchant in London in 17£7 and in 
Egypt in 1730, and Francis, who was K-)ptiz;^d in 
Christ Charch, London, Jan. 17, 1680,00 f 

3. D>1« of marriugo of Olotworihy Upton, first 
Baron Tcmpletown, to Elizabeth, d«ti;'hti>r of 
Shaekburg Boughton, Esq., of Pu.lon Court, 
Hereford. The peerages gifa Aug. 2J, I7(iO; 
bat the register of baptisms of St. Jauii-s's, 
Westminster, give him. by wife KHziMIi, two 
daughters (one of whom was born before thtl date), 
Tit, Sophia, bom Jan. 2, 1706, and Auj-uata, born 
June 1, 177^ 

4. Was Dr. John Egerton, Bishop of Durham, 
whoee ancestors and desnendants were Earls of 
Bridgewatcr, and whose second wifn w:ia Mary 
Boughtoo {sister of tbe I*ady Templetort-n men- 
lioneci nhoTe), the "John Ki;ert*.n. of OuUon, 
Cheshire." who married Catherine Upton, June 5, 
1731 ? Hnd ho children by his finl wife! 

3. John Uplnn Is said to have •.'iil,,r ,i KiJln- 

braher, co. Cork, and io have four 

Mtatea— Gtenstar, Ballioisna, im,! 
BaUlnabeama— in co. Uniprick i 
beeo |»ret«Dt at ibe i-iftrr nf Li 

baveraada h' ,tntd 

(Sat) Miu;) ,. , „,., ..^iinw 



Catherine Conycrs, of Caalletown Ooi 
Liruerick. I should like to know his 
His numerous de-oendrmts in co. Limet 
he wa* related to Lord T»nipli;tf»wn*a 
C:ipt. Henry Upfnn. The latter had 
John, born nbnut 1630, one of whom 
infancy. Is there any record of tb 
Tiiarriu^e, an>l can he bti identified with 
Cork itnil Limerick I 

6. Upton of Ingmire Hall, \SV»li 
Who is the nearest male rvpresfOtatis 
family? The estates haye aooe to a fei 
and tseverat men of the family have asaa: 
Dames. 

7. I should like to learn the panl 

ancestry of ** Msry, daughter of U 

widow of V—, M-D.," who uiarri 

Howard, Eirlof Suffolk, and died Janaar 
also (be name of her first husband. 

8. Klir.ibeth Upton married (first), be: 
William Strowd, or Strode, of Sbeptoa 
by whom she becams grandmother of 
Strode, one of tbe five member* dtou 
Charles I. Wanted a pedigree -^ '^i 
family. AVhowas thefnther f-f -' a 
She married (second), before It 

Biise, or Bynshe. of Wells or Spargmve, 
(a cousin of Philip Bisse, D.D , of Wells), 
tthe hnd a son Ktwnrd. Was the tatter I 
Rys-^hc who in ]6rj4 printed Dr. Nichola 
D* Rt MUitari et Facti$ JUuitribiu t 
he related to the latter nutbnr 7 

9. Upton of Frome Selwood, Somer 
any of your readers gtve me a pedign 
family t 

10. Oq what anthority does Borka 
f7en(ri/, sixth edition) identify tbe Ber. 
Upton, Rpotor of Kilnisb, &c., ami oi 
Upton of Glyde Court, co. Louih, with 
son of John and Dorothy jKome) Uptfl 
Uptons of Luplou ? I doubt the identi 
ni>t the Hev. Aniiiro?e son of a wine mi 
Limerick, and did be not flourish nearly 
later than Ambrose of the Liipton fami 
latter died before lOHd, leaving n wt(( 
and n d.iftghter Arabella, wjiilr 
Anna Whitney, is said to liaw 
no daughter Arabella is nttrihnlctl to Ul 
C* S. vi. 514 ; vii. 217; viii. 37S.J 

Wm. H. 
Walh Walls, ^rashin£ton« U.8.A. 

The Lack Wirp,— Cad any ' 
mo when Uco wiff* came intn 
they were worn ? 1 seft ' 
u not meatiuoed in Mr. . 

17, Watsriuo TUce, Southsmptoiu 
The Ship I, «• 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



sriiip TjoniloD, which wiia wrecked otf ilic 
pOf Pi>tlti;:nl in rlie year Ifi'.M I T -''I ' • 
I kouw tliD dat« of the wreck, t! 
elv, nod buw ninDy of the rih\\. , j 

r<d. wilb tbeir oames. W. T. LrnV. 

BAWKCKSTr.p.itia : Arra>'>R Waktrd, — At 
of tbg liut of trn nninll Tcltinirii in my 
lion, forming y4 Dttcrii'iion of Eufjhind and 
Ac, wirh plutes, p:tl.ii i.-.) v.y Ncwbery 
Cainno, 1770, i» : rri;:, ncnr 

i%, if ft pLiee full of Bon , Micrfharin;^ 

I a eaalte (•tulrd on n biiw or ImII, ftir .1 wttich- 
v«r, n&il ou the lower ground n Konma poilcrv/' 
That is the inri<]i'rn iinnio of thi.i \>\.\ce, niitl wbn 
I Ui4 ouUior of Uie work from which I quote I 

~ WlLmiD UAftORAVJb. 

[St. Lcc«.— Cnn ony one explain caimtnuct in 
1 oM poem of the tbirtetnth century I The lines 

" Xa fub 4iui Mi d« Minte Lace 
Qnv ou ftpele MnR«<«H«e. " 

TnoHiJ Cox. 

teas or CEmrAtco. — lo what work of 
I (le Geolii ii it thtt ihe has embodied the 
the Ducbeis of Ccnr:ilco, impriMined by 
iband ta the caitle of Atbeo^^a / £. D. 

^ DftSTCATiov IX BoRMs's PoKus.— I hftve in my 
etiOQ a copy of Burna'a poems, containing tbo 
diCAtioD (o the " Nobleiueu iin<l Geiitletuen of 
Cklednntun Hunt,*' wilb u memoir^ in which 
ear the fnllowinu wordii: "Thitx, in KiviuK t-he 
antcter of n lately decea»td \wei of celebrity." 
Tuh thew ffw wordi lu n tfuide, cnn any of the 
d«n of **N, & Q." tuforni nic of the n.ime of 
' nnthor of ihe nit;moir, nnd diite of pnbhc.itioo ? 
\ book dUo c>iiiLaiii» n KlosRiiry, itnd the nauie of 
Bier i» - Tboiuaa Tiiniball," Edinburgh. The 
\\ am not able (0 find these (liingc for uiy- 
rthat ibe tilU-pag« ts de^troyrd. 

BlClIAKD ALLAV. 

Gorrs. — Cnn any reader of " N, & Q." tell me 
tiio lUL-noio^; of Lbt« word? It wni :ip(>Iipd lo u 
|iiJ8l<r of L-ijttagc« irbicb existed till very lately 
L K<uLboiiruo, Edwaiiu U. VivrAi*. 

^ AtSLK OB CtUfKU— Can you inform me whether 
!■■■ of H church were e*er culled chnpelf 
wui DO family chii[)*l in Ihem ? I 
\% that " my bfidy niny be btiried in 
^ chnnoi/' wher« tiiere E« no present evideace of 
Dbnpel. GkuIigb tlUHPUKicr. 

fit. Punstftn't nailain^, EC. 

^' '*'"■ "■ •""■'■'r;ty for upclllng 

.1 ivdnpled hy lhi3 
iLioa of the ^(/< 



I'ltsitTi J>'-:)\ttns of St. PauVt School, and like- 
^^ -> I '. ttjL< critic who reviewed thin book in the 
111. In Mr. Gjirdtiier'fl book there in 
I . made of a MS. autobio^irupby of Tttsser 

containini; an nddittunnl standi, 10 which Tii«4er 
refers t-y Lily na jKrda'jogii*, Surely Mr. Garilioer 
wonld be ciiorerrini; a f^reat boon iipnn Tlls^oriftn 
etndcnts if he would rereal the hidini; phce of 
this mannacript, which L4 nut in Ihe Britbh MiiRcuin, 
and by f^ivin^^ tm hii authority for hitextruordiiinry 
■iwlling of Tuascr's sume. O. P, 

Auscs Dki used as a Crbst. — Wiahiog to 
tiinke A complete li«t of thofle fatuUie<s who have 
iM-vd tht< h'dy Ininb as crest or coKnizjnce, I 
have collected the following no duubt itnpcrreot 
lint : — Bunion, BoK^ie, Brundceib, Brandntm, Bur- 
nett, Cijck, Coikc, Crosbie, Crosby, Crouch, 
Cfowcb, Dyeon, D.ivi*, Duvey, Evans, Farrinjfton, 
Fi! zWarroo, Franclx, Grose, Haaluiu, HenKOD, 
Uickey, Hyde, Limb, Laogholme, LIcn-ellyD, 
Lluellin, MnImaiD!>, Mjll!i, Nemphnrts, Kormand, 
Parry, Ptiacidl, Price. Richards, Rowan, Bowe, 
SilliuulOD, Siifpfurd, Stubbini;, Templar, Temple- 
lon, WuHtfield, and Wnddi-ll, Will reader* of 
"N, & CJ." kindly supply uny omisaions ? 

T. w. n. 

Nottingham. 

OQE&: OOIVB. 
(6** 8. Tiii. 4-14 ; ix. 174, 330, 461.) 

1 am eorry that I have innncenlly incurred the 
wrath of Dr. Ciiakck ; but if he will look again 
at the passage referred to, he will find that the 
di»c<}very is n mare's ne«t. I distinolly elated 
that ** in Spaniah, Porbagaete, and luUan we 
hare the wort auge employed aatrooomioally 
in the 116090 of apotjttf from whiob, I agree with 
Dit. CriAXCi:, it biis doubtless been derived." 
What Btroufier expreaaion of Mxeot could I biiTO 
given 1 Probftbly Or. Chance has overlooked 
ihta pasnsge, and fixnd upon the succeeding sen- 
tence, which has no refftence to him At all. It 
refers to tbo absurd derivation, previously alluded 
to, from ati aasomed Tcatonio word og and a 
t«rmiDation %vui, imported into Italy under the 
form ofavgivo. I bop« Dp. Chancic will accept 
this explanation, and not attrihnte to me the sia 
of raieetatinK hia views on this dccosIod at least, 
though be accuses me of a propensity in thiit 
diiec'ion of which I was unaware. 

WhUat I have pen in hand, I wilt mention a 
few poitits raised in the discusBion which require 
a ItUle exptanatinn. The terms otitic and r/jte 
are cpfientially arcbitrclural, and are not f('und in 
any other relation. Dtt. Oiianch does not ap{ 
to have made atchitoatoral coutittuelV'jTv. \i\a 1 
"Nod omnlh pouumu& ouvn««" MV^^oi^t^ 
/ - o - . 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



r«T ifl. ' 



qaile aan be would bare come to Lhe flume oon- 
olasioo as erery writer oq Gothic nrchitectnre has 
done. I quoted n nataber of these ia mj previous 
ooromunicAtioa, and oould huve given more. Da. 
CriAVOBf in a note, refem to Mr. Jan. Ferqusinn 
in ft pituf^e which hai really nothing to >li with 
the qneation. The fonnwint; is Mr. Ferfj^iuiou's 
view of the origiQ of ihe terra. After dpsoribinu 
the TAQlting ribs, oalled in French arcs (Jonhfranr 
and formereU, he prooeedi : ** There were two more 
ribi iipnniTtD(; frniri aoKle to angle and iiit«rA--(:ttnL' 
one ftnothur at c [the eammit]. These were cd'cd 
oyivcsj from the Litin word angere, to fttrengtbeQ, 
which WM the object of their emplojmsnt— and 
every buiMer knows how essential to strength this 
id," He then proceeds to explain hov the <Kjiv^ 
strengthens thu conatru^tinn, which Dn, Chancr 
fails to gniFp. In a note Mr. Fer^uason adds: 
" The French antiqaarios employ ihts word [oyive] 
M if it Bi|(oi6ed a pointed arch, whence they de- 
■tgnate the style itwif as ogivtl. There is no 
doubt, howerer, that the word hai nothiag to do 
with the f'tnu of the arch or the Ojjee, hut is the 
nsme of a rib coaimoQ to the roaud-arcbed as well 
as to the pointed style."* 

The iiitrodaoiion of tbe ogire rib, being almost 
contenip:>ruieoui with thit of the p^iuted arob, 
no doubt frare rise to the {^en^na term ** architec- 
tuN ogiTtde," by which the French hnve always 
duii^aaled pointed, or, as we citll it, '' Gothic " 
architecture. The finoifal ide-* of the term 
originnting from "the series of hiufaest points or 
summits displayed longitudinilly " u set at rest 
by the other pusage quoted from Fergasson, 
" that this system w.ii in freqiient use before the 
cui[iloymQtit of the poiDl«d arch." 

Drt. Chavck Bays: *'I nerer write on a point 
of etymology nnloss I can attack, defend, or sop- 
port some current deriration, or offer a new one, 
and I iwr^t give a mere enumeration of other 
people's derivAtions." With every arohiteoturJ 
writer Bg&inst hira, however, ho' quntei ** Lv 
roune'e little illastriitei French dictionary" and 
Ltltru (suh voc.), the meiaing of the expl&na- 
tioos in which he has apparently misunderstoDd. 
These both aay th«t the injixtt are ribs which, 
orosalfig diagonally, form an angle at the so mm it. 
CertAtnly, but the an^lo referred to U horizontal, 
not vertical Thiit Ibis mu^t be so ia evident 
from his owo quotation, " thit this ^atrm wu 
in use bcfuro thecmplriymentof the poliit-ed arch." 
In u aemicircultr vntilt the < ' ' :! 
would a"t form a verttcU u: 
b*» ...^ '• i-jhest poiata or b.ihhu.i, .u.-ui/ij-u 
K y." 

is madu l'« Til: r,i !'....■ (n il,*. 
£», i*ortiistti«' 

O'j- I ■^. ■ ih. Is'u i' 



fjjfte US' a moulding, not as a rib. O^wiltKwj 
used by Vitmvius as the upper moulding inj 
cornice or nn abaonii (hie iv. oh. iii.), and is prf 
bsbly derived from Or. Kvft-i, a wsve or awrllt* 
from the form of iho moaldinj; oorabiDing a bnUfl 
and a round. Fielc {WofhrKih) trines km/i*i| 
the root ht, BchweUcn, hohUpJo, which exicll 
expresses the form. In any cue it is qoitei 
tiin thit neither cvraucwnor cyntatium ever ro«a4 
.in arch rib. 

If nny of th* rea-lera of " N. & Q" tbiak 
worth while to gi over this correspiuleQCe, I < 
safely trust them with the result. 

J, A- Picwy.i 

Saodyknowe, Wavertree. 



RaroRMAORs (0« 8. ix. 348. 432, '- ' 
CKKTOR ViKABLRS may not think me pi 
if I cxprcsa o hope tlint he will not imii>v' 
Mausuai.l's example in aliering the wordi of tl 
text io his edition of Bimynn'* ffo/i/ TVar; \f 
thnt lie will let. evory word of the original sc-vq 
iind m:ibo Ilia edition n Terbiil, or even a 
reprint, and let such nUcmlions and expla 
an may be necessary be in the form of DOteKjl 
MARsnALi.'5 suhatitutinn of '* rolunteera " h: 
formatUits seems unfortunate. VoliiDt«eT« 
only pivB advice and encouragement would _ 
be of much use in any army. And were not a' 
the holy army volunteers? The wnr i 
occurs several times, nod it is ftpplie-i 
of the army of Diubolus as well as v' ^n\<'. ^ 
The following pinnge leaves no doubt r.n my mil 
ibiit PiiDjnn meant the fpltit* of fhr 
who, ul'.hoogh they hod left tlicir bod; 
to fieel nn interest in the welfare of u., 
(the italics are mine): — 

" Thoie a'.fo th»t ro-Je RcformadofN. nr > 
.loten to Hfl thi'l>iittU, tli«T atiouted will: < 
■ T v.ticf. mill dimn with '•■■'•'•■ ttift ■.t1--i.i» h 
eBU*r<l llicni tli(tt •li»ell ■ 
uiitd'ins, I'nt uiit tliolr ' 

cmnie «jI tlmt flloTr, T;,, -. - ,.^ 

them s> saw thii liglil, wer<f. a« it wer^, n^t^'iits* 
tfAt'/it fAry toutvii Maixt thi tailK aaA iht Aiurciu." 

"To get shut of " = rid of or out of, is tieotan 
plkKikD in liincolriiihiro. "To bind up'*>3Lo 
up, or to bank up with earth, is nnother. *" 
to like,' quuth the devil to the o^UUr" 
cobbler) Is a ootutnou proverb. ** To bavA 
la their dish " (or Iro'i^li) in n rnrlant of '^ 
a flngcf in thfir pie*'= m''ildle, interfere, 
iTOiuiti'm proverb. So ie " m ^rcut a* 

or "as Ihitk iv^ thieves." ''Q- ' - 

I usual furm ia " -jquat itud cl" 

r'i 
I ui t*M 



•*a. x.Ji'W 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



tutunil crtlour hy rti^tici. A "nituble JncV is 
m faohgoblio or bi'mcliiftvom fplrit, TbeM wre all 
w>r» or le*t wmnum in Lincolnaliire. 

"To grammar nnrf •etlto'* m^ana to instrticl aqiI 
MtUp. Ad'itlicr of niin^rin'H phrrmpii U «ouiowliii 
tuniltr: "It w.it Jialomitd th;it tbcy were Loo 
ibttriliur ffiih tli«m," 

- '"Toolt nepper in the nose "= took offenco, Imi 
r DWO comiii.ra for four Iniodred yean or mare : — 
*• P•^r tlipr «ir« ful j-rouJo litrlcJ men, 

r.CirV -'■' 

All 1 r ttermxa 

And I , ji.jrtf ^cpl« 

And ni r l/omi Ije lok»lh." 
VVriabtB Pifri Ptoi'^kmatt, Tol. II. p. 307. 

" But ^pckf ye n<i mote of iLut 
F<>r «lre4o of tha r»J hit 
TiUt pt/'rr IK rX« wolf ; 
For tuati lliyna lieeil of pnai^ " 

Diets StiH<.ft.Tal.il p. 38. 
"Sliill PmhrtrrUn ball* rina Cr^-mwcIVi prklw, 
Wbile n« lUnt} tlill RnJ d>i nn Tmphie* rtin 
Unto 111* Uk(in« num* l Th^n ni^v we ba 
Uu- .■■■■■■■.■ . , V' 

J— , ■ «ii 

oUr tv a|>ii<«uj bis ni<±nu." 

A. BrMaci Poeau (1064), p, 835, 

& R 

n, Lioootfiiliire. 

LoBO CniBr Jcsticr Cockhorx axd Mods- 
|T*cii«a («*"S. X. 6>.— Mr. SAWTna ia wrooK nhout 
J thi>»nbjc«t, Tli*?jiiilaea formerly worti timiiiUcliM 
iJiko ulhrr people. Tlipy fullowej (he prcrailinK 
jcn«k>itL LtUkton (H-Vt-UOn) wnt« a tiijuitituhe ; 
jio (b« time r.f Henry VII. the j'l-i^ci were clean 
F»hAYf(l ; in ElijLibt"th'* reiyn lliey wora ii)'>ij9tic)i'! 
)nTid peaked heard, nml Ibii fttshion aurTJreil till 
'■ilth; the j^Ill^^c)» hive so far re* 
rd niivernent," which he^n at the 
iiini' .M i,f ' niiifun Wiir. The ooif hn'l nolhinif 
Id do with ihe cVficiI tnnture, nnd tbo leiinl pnv 
./m^ioo hnd no necp*sary cooDexioa with the 
iChurch. (dee Soijcant PuIIiOR'a Order r/ the 
lOn/) C. A. 0. 

**HoDHt MODM " (fl* S Ix. fi07).— Thi« word is 

' K'' : i% CBTUinij h tnU« (arm 

■ JH Ldltft, ed. O.ilnlner, 

tvxi )u O^irdner is mid to he t:tlceii 

fimu ITflDJi, ir. SiX Ti't the Kpetl n;; difl^ri con- 

■' " 1 in "N. AQ." I will 

n between « nnd o in 

-" ia common. So 

editors 03 r,* nnd 

,ni«s«^9 is a tidicu- 

nr tor biaUtnd. the recnlir freiittenditive 

■* the Bime word 
|tr 70 :— 



" AUi I tliry ni«1iB no thotlcr 1 
Ti)« ebutch ii pui in rAilte." 

The derimlion of hngij.r-m^tg^tr, neTer yet wr- 
rtc:Iy (flven (lo my kmmledi;e), u now pluin 
pnniijh. It it (I BtilHtiiMlion for the older fftnu 
' ' r. Keilhcr is there hero a»y difTiiTully, 

part of llie word is merely due to re- 
iU>irM>:>ii>iit ; the «iKuUi(.*Aoi purt is Uodtr. And, 
aa to /(«>d*T, I hiivo iliort-o, in my dictinnary, that 
it in the M.E. eqnivnU-nt of hutiiUe, ituelf a fret* 
qtieotatico form of M.E. ktitttn, to hide. In fitct, 
fiO'ifT-mndsr should hive become Aiirfdcr-mwdAr 
or ktuidU-mud'lh nxxhet than hugger-muffgcTf nod 
tt 19, praclic^illy, n mere deriTntJve of kid4 (with 
root-vow&I u). Cr. Greek Ktvdnv. 

Waltbr W. Skkat. 

nuygrr-mvoger is now sometimes u«e<l with the 
mcnnint; of tlovcnJy or coii^H«rf. Fur sn iDslnneei 
I qtioto from the Daily TcU^oph, Oot. 5. 1883, 
n. 2. col. 2 : " Nor can they be rery severely blatnea 
lor thia linjgrf-mugytr^ alipfthod way of life." Hut 
ihe iMuul meaning has undonbtediy been " in 
secret/* or '* clandestinely.'' To the referencM. 
gfven hy the editor I tiiiiy ndd Stnplelou'M /'yrfcJ 
ttfthe Faith (150.1), fol. 83 ; lM»ir« lhmoHttrmit%\ 
of DittipUnt (ISHH). p. ») (Arber) ; Cliiin;liiir« 
GAo.f (I7«2), bk. iiL Oko. L. AppEiausf. 

Wliahlcdoii. 

AUhotidh thU expression in clAssIc-il laDfjiiaga" 
nmy h'«vi:> nltfiiys had Ihu tiieaiiin;; given to ibJ 
in tha t^ation I^ttl^rt, *' that in clundeatinely, 
in the everydny liin^iui|;u of the ninelcetfll 
century it hJtt another nieunin<;. In the piib-- 
Ii''.iti'm8 of the Eoj(Ii«tb liinlect Society I find 
I hi" following. Frotii llie Qlomtrg r*f Manlty and, 
Curringhanij Lincolnshire, " Hnyger-mngger, ndir.,] 
in disorder, aIl-i]pon-heiip<i''; for the leleof NVi);ht,| 
*' Uagycr-muyfjer, noythint^* done bndly or care»j 
lewly"; nnd iu South Warwickshire the word meami ' 
in disorder. From the Lancashire ^jlosaary the 
word bus been omitted, hnt it i^ a coinnifin ex> 
pre-iMion, nod hu no other me;iniii^' hut Ih&t of 
untidily or disorderly, Hesiuetta FisnwicE. 

A ditTcront meaninjj from lh.^t of socrery li.i« 
been aliacheti to hitj'jir-tnitgfftr. I remember an 
nrtiole in Ihe Sititrduy HtoUw, some twenty yean 
H({o (since reprinted in a volume of KsMt/t). in 
which ihe words were token to meAn a ttlovcoty 
mode of life, a di^r^'t^iril of the little eleij.ineles, 
(•Paces, ntid (jonifortu which yive a chi»rm to exiat- 

BOce. EoWAitO U. MAKSItAIO., M.A 

]iutiiif(*. 

[W. a D. II., writing froiq PlymouHi, «t«lei lli«t ttt 
Dt-V'inthirt! Che meknini; r>nliii>rny uiiKned Knyytr- 
mu^-itr Is "untidy, contu^ ttutf tt ihli<s«, ' miJ quotet 

Bt^^iiilieilltiia from vsrloui dictlonariut.} 

Natiiakikl ScAiiLicrT ((J'" 3. ix. 329, 473).— 
I find I bnve giveo parliculats of a Niithitniel 



NOTES Al^D QUERIES. 



Scitriett, eridcQtljr an anoeator of Lho one inr]uire<l 
for hy ttie dme. B. F. Scaiii.ktt, 

PRIKOK Leopold's Dxatr (e* 8. ix. 3(18, 471). 
— John of KliluTO was not on n vhit tti hi." ninler 
wlien he Hifil, for lie had "none In the Scottiwh 
wan " OQ llio llih of April prerioua (Prttent Roll, 
10 Edw. III., i>r,. i.), UiH drnth occurred ut Perth 
(B-iroes Diiiidiilp, K;indf«nl, AntJer»oii)on Sept. 14 
<M»rtii:ii), I33(i, ns the Patent Uoll j<i»t. qtiolet) 
boiirft witness, b}' spenkini; of him m living in tlie 
April of thnt jeor, 3»nd aj('*'" on July 12. lli>t;er 
of ChMtcf pay* that ho tli^d in October (Hurl. 
MB. 17^!). fol. 031, b), nod both b« and Adam 
d« Mtiriuintb (tlorl. MS. fi45, fol. 2lM) Anert that 
about Rpiphany, 1337, the Icinjj came from the 
north to Loudon to attend his brothei'n funeral. 
The king was at Perth ou July 20, at KottiDgbani 
OQ September 27, and at Neircniilio on October 21 
(Patent Roll, lo Edw. III. pt. ii.). The atory of 
the acsassioation cornea from the Scotichfonicon ; 
the posaage i$ qnotcd by Mr. Siaplelon in bia 
Preface to the Liber d« Anticiuii Ltgibm, p. cxi ; 
and he— an excellent anlhority— quotes it rather 
in ihp tone of one who bclieTed it than olhorwi:ic. 
1 ihoold be very irjad to heiir it disproved, for it 
ji one of the two grand blots on the char«cter of 
Eilward III, at once amonjr the most just and 
geutle of the Plantagenet kingo. 

HciUIBNTriDOE. 

Col. OanT (6"" S. ix. 269)— T am not Bure ihit 
I can idfDli^' (he picliito Huppo^ed to rcpre&ont 
Col. Ortv, Bat if J. E. J. can tdl me how. if at 
all, the late owner, Sir Thof. fThanipnpyit, Bart., 
waa related to the Uptons of Frame SiIwo(k1, or 

lo the Chnmpoeya who nmrried a daughter 

of JoUt) and Dorothy (Rouse) Upton in the etven- 
leenth cent'jry, I think I may be able to aulit 
bia tnvej>ti|!»tion. Wm. H. Uptom. 

Walla Wullo. Wuhington, U.S.A. 

Mart, Ladt Stjutoud, &c, (fl" S. ix. 327).— 
I can throw some lifiht on the question put by 
T. J. M. Lying open before me a« I write is a 
carious oM Uitt/^ry of tht iJib/*, the "Second 
edition, correct'-d. I-ondon, 10D9." The book is 
" illustruted with 234 seulptiireB," or conper-pUtea 
M we aboiild call them nowaday". Eioh plate 
repreienU sotno iccne in Iho Hibl*". No. 178 is 
that described by your . i l.-nt, the exe- 

cutioner, sword In bund, I . uf the prison- 

door the l)i'.-td of Jubn the i.ij.-'^t, «nd pre^entinK 
it 10 Ifrrndias, who boKU in licr liuuda the cbartier 
lo r'-- •■.■ tii. .•■... ...'.--a ciinon: ■ ).rc- 

K '; ' me, the 'm in 

nil' I bead, hi 

till: mdI. ^tj'i 

■p^' . . una in if* . 

bam, "(i. i''iii»tiiun inr." nod ** .T 



strnnge p&rl of the thing — the iosorfplion on the 
plate in ibis i-^ 

Tho Kifht UoQoaraMc Ann Lulr MwrnelU* 
(iBUgtt'r of th« \\\g)\i (lonmint.i*' fniiiir 

For AJranceiueiit uf tldi Woc. i I tlii* Pis' 

There is no mention of Lndy --<><> •! i «; all. 1 
not know when the firnt edition of ibt-* Iwvok wn 
printed. ThiJi, the Becon^l, in dated 1009. La^iy 
Stafford died 1(J03. Amonfr the persons who "for 
the Adranct-nient of this Worlce " c'-i^n'viicd 
plates, I find ibe names of ''Godfr- 



U0 

I 



K- 



'the Kinu,"** the Queen." "Pf.iH 




"Pt'inceu Ann," "William Duke of (rluuocater." 
On theae laat ftre the inscription U : — 

To the Kinc'g nmit Excellent .^I'lteity, Ac. 

Tliio Plate in all MuiniUly U dedioittMt hy 

Yoor MKJeaty's ohedient Sulijeot ami Serrant 

R'chard Blome, 

and similarly for the other four. With the eToep* 
tion of these five plntefl the name liichard Blame 
occani on none. It may hare appeared in 
edition of the work. And licruconiesaBtn 
cidence it propos of Lidy Stafford. Across t1 
page of ray copy is written in autoffrnph the i» 
"William Aujiustus Mincbin, 1792 " (my gram 
father), who always claimed Ludy Stafford as 
anceHiresi throufjh. her and Viscount Stalfui 
eldest son Fruncfa. We know that lli^ 
nobleman left two sonn, Francis and 
therefore your correspondent is not qmri- i\::-t 
where he spenks of the viscount ns " the la*! of 

the Siaffords." With tbe excop'i '' ''- --■•• 

on the five plates or "sculp! iiren" -I 
I &in find no mention of Richard i : .. .-,.,. ..,.£ 
thronuhoiit the book. Michakl FaitRAn, U.8. 
EUU, India. 

Old Proverbs (6* S. ix. -IW, 4981— When, 
it ;»mpoj of the proverb "man pniptwcth and <I ' 
dii-posetb" ilBr.MK»TRUOK sayy, "in ilH 1^ 
form thii is as old ns tbe fourteenUi century," -. 
corrc>'poDdcnl must have foiled to read the ii ''.r- 
esting reply by tbe Rev. Ed. Mahsh mi. r' 
viii. 25-i). I have met with tK 
sa|;e, which I have not seen t[': 
" Ucre a man may see that tbe tbin){ wlnrb vs^u 
doe propose, Ood doth dispoeo^ (Tht JuUt^ 
■Seoj/tn, p. 168 ; Htcond Strict o/ ShoJtaaptfa^^^H 
Bwhf eiltted by W. C. Hazlitt, 1804). 
in hi.t Englith PronibM, i^c,, 1 W2, nays, '* ] 
•Imw'i Life of St. iVtiburgh, 1621, we have 
couplet : — 

' Til" mni.liyiiil.- )>rrpo»« bli Wijndc to f«jr 
Yflt iix.i] Avt: i.aMU M iI.vh ■» ui l>i. miMm 



"Ro7., THB COCKSRY I 

■ i. ■]'^S'\, --T1." I fiiTiiliir ii. 



r^9^SM 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



53 



^ 



Cbild, and I requuta it for the piirpoeft of ataLiu^' 
thai I ftiit one of the fev ciders reiiminiof; wbu 
hx7t A Tmd remembninco of Uh pnhlicniioii, ninl 
the ilill fewer of ihrtn who cnn uy tht-v pun')ti>>'><] 
ftnd read the piiiii|tUlvf, uhnut the ycur 1h37, ut 
which perlr>il there w^ro wreml weekly penny 

SI mciei of Dickens nfl'i.it in the mctrnpolin, the oon- 
nctom of wbirh cTprpitiiPfi their tn'iii^nnlinn nt the 
appfiiirnnce of Mr. C-hiltl In thw iiivnri of liti^ntttiri', 
•mt cnniempiuously Hakri), " Who ia ibis Willinm 
CnlpiH.i rhild, whothm ventures to run down Mr. 
I>icKen!» !"fot!owint{ nptht^ qpie*tion by thedecliini- 
tion that the rrpututiun of Mr. Dickeoi would Ion;( 
outlive thai of )\h critic. Now Ibiii bus turned 
out to b« trne ; hut it is highly notvworthy Ihnl 
the piraticul enlogiAta of &Ir. Dickens bud juit 
before be«u dubbed h; the novelist with Ibc very 
un«4Toury title of "lice not worth killing," the 
toeaninj! of which I can only take to signify that 
tbey were not worth going to law with. 

H. SCULTHORP. 
JuBM Strati, BuokiDghun Gute. 

"IrrrsT Cutis««i," (fl>* S. ix. •Jao).— Is not 
the form int^tt merely nnother wny ol spelling 
tnlitt, the BnkI ( heini; due U> the bibiluot, aa in 
the cue of whiUt f The pU8a$;« then would read 
io Bogltob, " Or if any of them would entice, 
coaoseli and draw Ihee," && 

F. 0. BiREOECK TsnRr. 

Soanoc of QuoTATiorr Wasted (6* S. \x. 
606}i — St. Jerome exanunea tbe opplicatloa of 
th« eian^clietio symboli in hia commentttry on 
Exekiel, ch, I ver. 7, where there ii a reference to 
faU prefrtce to Sf, Mntthew: — 

pr... 
■tl< 

IJU 

ler 

int- , 



nv;inL'«Ha, qaoi noa quoque in 
^UlttiKii leetiti #umii«, uoram 
t d^'igiiari ; .Mnt,th.Ti. i]no<) 
:t; Leutiil. ftl Mnrcum ro- 
jnici-liam, q'lotl a 7,*c\ixrim 
■ . ad Jouiu'u cxurdium, qui 
'•l-U : • In priodplo.' "' 

Ftfr Ibc lost c1>iii:se reference may be made to n 
itlel pnaiage in the Prolo^rne to St. Ambrose's 
Bitienlary on St. Luke. § 8: — 
T' 'ill noitruin 

in titiraftliuui 

fig--r ■ i; jIuh, t<Jem 

ftfiuil* r' iir. liuiiio, quia iiNtUN •! HuHt 

eat: Leo, , •:: Vituliu, quialioitiaest : AquUa, 

quia r^-■uIrl MM> VII. 

1 huTo not the commeolary of St, Jerome on St. 
Ml"*- ' I i=pel for refercnee. There mtiy be 
mil to the siilijoct than if contnioed in 

tho ^ ,>j.uiyon Eztikiei, ii^i. There is much 

variety in the patriilio apptioation of tbe aymhols. 

Ed. Marsiull. 

The folWwtoi; la, I nhooM think, the true aoarce: 

'■"■■■ ' * ' ■■ '■ .Nlium, ot 

ut rncici 

liUIIllC.l ) IJ 



tl'iviim ligniriCKt], quii qtmri do lintliilt? etAr<ul elk 
»(-ribei-« : ' Liiter ee •rratiuiiH Jnu Ciiritii, lili Dautil, 

K:i Alirnhaiu.' Secufxlutii [ri.-] .Maieom, In q'ln UOX 
It^'jri'iB ill Kcrcino ru^^ipitti* nii'liLur : ' Vux c\nnutiti\i in 
ilcioriu ; imntlo umni Joniirii, rfH'ti* faritc »enilti»» •Ini.* 
Tcrii'i iiittiii, iiiiw \r4*3it qiiir] ciunirf' li»tAm LtM-ittu a 
Ziicliitrik xnct-Tdotc Kimii'ie Initititu |>nvriK'unit. Quitnn 
Julinniiciu liun('goli<t«Tri.qui ail-umn* iiiiin«[.tc]tt'iuili», 
et a<i klLiora rtkUxHUf, cl <ie ucrliu L'tii (I'mjiutAt.' 
This id from the Prefiicc of Hicronyimia to the four 
Gospels, OS it itAoda in the celcbrnteil Lindi&faroo 
MS, Walter W. .Skbat. 

MlU RoTTHD will And tbs leaniins^ upoit thi« 

subject In Bmhop Wordjiwnrih's New Tevlaraont 

(Introd. to Gotppln. xli, luiil note on Bcrela- 

tion ir. 4). Tbe bimbup rt>rvra to an "ancieak 

Christian bjrmn," which contnius tho lines : — 

" Natus boaio ileclaratur, 

Vltulat sncrificsttir, 

IjOO mortem Jeprrelatur, 

Sed asceodit AquiU.' ' 

Tlie early fathers were agreed in referrins the four 
living creattires to tho four Evonttelisls ; bat 
diifored ivs to thp particuhir Gospel represented by 
each nne. Edward U. Marshall, M.A- 

IlasiiogB. 

SoUttCK OF Stort Wantf.o (g"* 8. viii. 3CS; 
ix. 407). — The story of the Dean of Badtijoa, from 
the AbW BlancheC, may be seen in Godwin's Liva 
vf the Necromaiicera, jt^. 153-4, Lond., 1876. The 
two stories from the rertian TaUt nro nt pp. 117- 
121 of the sflme book. In illustrutton of tho sub- 
ject, No. 94 of the SpecUthr may be referred to, 
where the story of M.-ibon)et's night journey is 
noticed frotn the Tttrkith Tales, aod also from the 
Korun (ch. xvii.). This is ulso exftmioed by Prl- 
dcuux, Life of Afahomtt, pp. 45-65, Lond., 1716. 
A passage from De (Juincey, in Tbe Opium-Eater 
— " I Roiuetiiuea seemed to hare lived for a«veuly 
or eighty years in one night" — which hears upon 
tho subject, Is examined in Dendy's Phihtophy of 
Afy$t(r\j, pp. 236 *qq-, Loud., 1841, where similar 
observationa are also noticed. Lord Brooghau 
apcuks in tbiti way of a person who is very tired 
fnlliog naleep whUa diclnting to an nmanuenais:— 

" Not above Htc or bix rcc(iu<\i mHy cInpM, aoil lbs 
flecper will find it nt firi>t i»ipM«iM« to liclierc tb«t he 
bai nat been nsteep for b>?ur«, and will cliitlu Cbc anmnu- 
ensls for buTing lallcn atlccp oTcr hta work, to ttr«at, 
a]i))areiitly^, will ■•« the lef>)'tii uf tbe dn.*am which bt 
li..B Jretirned, eitrndine ]»irhii« through b^If a (jfa- 
limo."— J. R, Ware, WohdtrfHt Dreamt, p. 01, L-jjiJ , 
IMproie, ».a, 

Ed. MABdOALt^ 

TiiK World crkatkd March 25 (6'* S. ix. 
3C5, 4i>7).— Says Uukewill.in bis curious Apologit^ 
Hi35, p. 7. " That tbe world was created in the 
spring: * Opinio est non Astroloijis modo et Poetia 
accepta, aed omnium etiam Ertjltsiaaliconim Scrip- 
torum atquo Theologoruni tlrumtn oonsen^n,' saitli 
Pererins"; yet he himself maintained, creatiouwaa 



54 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



l^ 8. SL JctT 19^ 'H. 



in tbe outnmn, J. Swan in 1C43 pnUt^licd )ii« 
•s'/Wfu/iim ilfnndt, nnd bo sbowSj sn ihe titl« snys 
(iind llint U nil I knoir of it), tbiit the wnrld " did 
begin Hnd musl ulfo end: the rnnnncr how, nnd 
the tiiiiH when, lit'ing hirt'el^ oxaniineti." I dure 
fny ID tbi<i bofk nil in net nut with full pnrticiilnrs. 
The Jevi^b civil y«ir W;;:in iu ttiH ntiiumn, but 
ibo sacred year legjn in the nioiub Ni^an, or 
eprinR. Ni«nn wna March. C. A. W'ahu. 

Unrentock IMl. 

Liun AND Mint Saitck (fi'** S. ix. 448; x. 14). 
—An account of n Jcwtdb Paachid feiut tiMr Btule, 
in Chamberi's fiooj; of Dnyt, tol. t. p. 445, has the 
fulloniDg: — 

" In Ihe ml'MIe of the tnt'Ie. on a silrer di»b, were 
Iniil thrte Pa»vvcT c^kci, wpBratM hy a n«|tkin : ft'ore 
thfff. nn iTnal|.-r l^i•^lO^ wb« k me'lley of lof.uce, mir- 
ttmlaJc fl:xvt>ured with cinnnnion, NppK-« iin<l til[a"nt)5, k 
I'littlu ul vifipgnr. tome chrrvil, B hnril-tiDil>d e»tir. liorie- 
m'litli, nnJ lit «rif r:^e » bone witli n little fl' ah on tt. 
Atl tlit'M were eiiillruii : tito ninrmti'i'l'; "'^nirj'ini* tfao 
cltty, ch«llt. nn-1 bricks in which the Hoiirtw •Uvoii 
worked uiidit Phmrikoli ; iha virv^far Mid liert-t, tho 
l>itt«riiei« ftn4 miner; tb«y tbeu pit(]<ir«il [*hj not 
*' ib« bitter hi^rb« " to be ciilcn tiith ttte F*tdittJ hunt, 

Grnilgiirli. 6'|; artd lh<^ bnne lh« PKtchiil Umh AH 

then ri-pcfttcd t1i« itury nf Uio dupgfhirr from l-Ii'jrpt in 
Biblv worilf, Aiii) lAoied th« Tuloiu *]rinbL<ticAl article* 
Arransed in (be ili»b," 

KottUAK CUBTKAS. 

IlBttAt.Dio BmuooRAPHr (e"» S. ix. 489).— 
In answer to Mr. AsDEnsuN's iDfjiiirj. I regret to 
Pdj tbnt Mr. Briiiger'ii lUblivtheca Urmfdic* wnn 
Dover completed. Moule is, I believe, Hill lU 
atilliotU;. S. JAsrca A. Salter, 

riCTUKKB ov Saints (6^'' S. ir. 488).— Thfre i<t 
n |)<>rtrHil of B^do in pt. i. p. 12 of CiwHtll'* BiUe 
KihitatoT t of 8:. Friilcswidc in an enKrivIni! of 
nn elfftnnt niche conliiititDf; u stutua of St. Trides- 
wide ID D. Injjmm'ii MtvioriaU of Oifonl, Ch. Oh., 
vol. t p. ai ; of St. Albnn in plate xil p. 60; St, 
ATpbefie, pinto eii. p. 37 of the Cbf'Hd.ir of tht 
KftglUh PfaijoBook {Oi., Parker, 1866) ; of St. 
Ktlieldrrdii in Mn. Jameson's Ugauh of Vu 
Monattie Ortltn, p. 69; see aUo p. 07. 

£t). Marsttall. 

Rococo <!•» S. i. 321, afiflj ii. 376; vii. 627; 
4"' 8. iv. ISB, 241j Ti. 234; C* 8. ii. JOO, 271, 
370, 43(J; «, 10).— I do not know what Miss 
BuMC niHT think, hnt to me it uppeara that Dr. 
TnASfB h[i« written much nml nettled nnthin^. 
Ilowcvrr, Ihiit i« for re'idtre to decide, lint »a 
DiL CiiAKL'K mV» for n luai »,vlbiUe rednplicitrd 
lo !)• ftbown hi III, there are Lrfa, iwno, Antiffapu, 



nn<l ptTl<n)ii Hflv thon* 
n«Tertlocli 111)1. 

A« I nfvsr unw 
] do not ree wbr T 

*PI)C« of I 

l|itjcnted. 



a A. WAnp. 

> luiiiiui ^^ 

■ li np-'H It. 
' ii tho tut ; 

ii tlfil B 1 



which there iennjronsoDtn«hick,nnd I)H. Cilwcu'Q 
knowicdtre of Itnlinn will rrrnind him th(ii|_^i(j 
aboundi in reduplicuted wonU nnd kyll»blc*. 
tiides Biich comnioD inataoce^ n« via n'l, pran 
pinno, cost c«j;1. there tire nil the niitii> 
tractions of proper namen, L^Jtn fur '■ 
for Lui^i, Tutt for Ballialit-, Prvs for \t 
Atii!)!);; uames of (owns there n Kiiax ; uinoa 
adjt^cltvea, ijra, t'tt-i. lUfio ; among oouna,^ 
nnd p<i|>"< al-^o mamma; iind if il be oKjcctc 
a word of only two frvlbible* ainnut l-e 
repent Ibe luat, there «re rw^afo, pi(.iA.», picrintnl| 
und TitHni-HMiut, atid Koni.ina c-dl an apricot tr 
albricoceo ; among Terb% nnj verb ending in tar 
tntiHt Huplicnta ila lait sjUable in the fern, liod 
termination of tbe poAt part., as prrsenturt, [ 
tentita; any in rare uiu^t dnplical« the fintt an 
third person of tbe impiTfect sio^ , as giavart, ffia 
vava; any in ttrt thesecoud penou pliir>il itidioatif 
prc-^ent, as potert^ pottt* ; mtitire, m<lUU ; 
tin the niiLoc. I'tunil piuit ptirt. , ifntire, itntili 
the list would (w M endless MVttricd^ no thUi 
nisy suffice. 

Of coiirj-e, Dr, Cimkcb innT be riijlu in 
eeivin^; that rococo was compounded iu tbo i 
way :iH rigolo^ &a., but I Ktill think the derintli 
from turoffo more prohftble, for it was not, ao 
Rityt, the itiiiiitiuily of eound alone that n$ 
CCfttei) tbo ftiippoftition tbnt roeoeo came oat 
hitroeco. If thii inppoattion is erroneoii*, it 
i\i;)iD8, indeed, noteworlby that two peoples ^boiilq 
independently, biiTe coined two words so rati ' 
alike to denote the same atyle ; hut my cbnr^ 
u^ninnb the derivution from nt^ailU in thar. it 
tnvinl. A stylo thiit haq produced nn efTrCt 
jjniodly iiiipreMive ss the rennvatcd interior 
St. John L'ltertin — with nil its terrible fixolts- 
ftt li-aftt worthy of bciii;; denounced iu nn tpiili^ 
derived from 8omelbio;{ le'is oooimoupU\» 
the rockwork of » viltii roniitatii, 

With regard to the nae of the word, of eour 
believe rococo to be muob more recent thon h^r 
yet I seem to remember meeting it in untlionJ 
good deal older (ban hiUr6. B. H. Btrs&l 

FiTZUATiniKO CitcBT (G'*" S. ix. 4a9).-Thl 
9eem9 to be some ronrniinn a? to the armW 
bearings of the 1' Juid DerkeleJ 

Thoni:i*T B^irim of I!. i I to Imve 

the fii 
a^ su; 



tho dievnn, and look a 

! IW- difd in i:ir,i ( 

llutovy 

Ai thn I 



6i)>s.x. JoLt m.'u.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



55 



, foaodf 



Tbe modem >j«tem, )iowev*r, wniiM |;iv« a M|)ir:it« 
creal to vmcli. Ai to Ibe ^el^ction of n blsbop's 
inilr«, it nmy be considored welt chosen, thii lord 
barini; be«n the founder of St. An^u^tino'^ 
moniutery und ciitbedml, niid gcaerMly a l-<yal 
ud muniticeot hod of ibe Church. M. H. R. 



Tu bis *f-* — '■■ : pnper oo the Filih«rcling« 
(f>^ S. it. i ' MS Bii{2);esU ihnL the tnStre 

iiiij ha*c - ..iiKsl 8« 11 nrest by the Berks- 

Uti! to indicate some family comicxioo with 
ttattricf', Bishop of London mid Chuocellor of 
KoKUnd. I tim inclioed to attribate it rather to 
Uiflr eoDoexion wiih the threat abbey of St. 
AugUHiiae -itr Briitul, of which thoy were the 
fiuDden, ht-nofucton, and protectors. However 
lit the tnitre uity be ai u cretl io Eu}(IjiDd, 
who ure fmuiliitr with ibo hemldry of Ger- 
lywill remember that there tbe niitroisthmup«d 
by not n few great f4milie!i, princem, aod coiiots of 
tDi empire, &a Without »tteinptintt to jjive here 
nntibiktulive lis't, I may mention the followin;j : 
lb" Princes of Cnrstenbtr/, the Counts of Grave- 
■wlr, Montfort, Stilts, Tubingr-o, \Vprdenber>;, 
Fddkitch, and Asperi^ ; the Biron^ of Honbarg, 
K*pnji(»f(r, RiJteIn, Stauffdo, »nd BiirRlon ; the 
^itie« of Ultoe, Rucken-atein, Fraw<'nbtrj», Kouiji- 
*(ciD, Ac Now, it will he found, certataly to 
nnl of ihete ca^es, perhaps in all, that the mttre 
bu bpen as^iiuied to iodicate a connexion with 
WopricK And iibbeyK, or with epiicopa) or abbiliiil 
lui<!». Tbi« connexion wa^ of more kinds tbnn 
^. Someliniej it neeinii to hare denoted (be 
f'^WiioD of a tcnip'^'fAl l-.td-liip held undfr tbe 
>l(l«y or lee; but more rrt;<iti':ntly it will be found 

tl«t' !■ . '-■ - - ' ' r.l W;w llio ftl'fMljJ OT tl'lt^iifltlU 

*'' it-ion, itii protector, nnd often, 

lA;- 1..., . . ; r.'.inco, the tender of its v.-i-'^nls 

fitliiut of wnr. Many etirly instances of tbe use 
*^ tt inittD crest will be found in the celtfbnitnl 
^ippeorollf' von /uridt, a M^. of tbe fourteenth 
ciiiiury. p'lltliKltfd in f.ieeiuiile by the Antiqimri* 
icIhd (ji<«ellicb.ta in Zurich in imi There, ai 
^ belots and crests are drawn io profile, the 
*iiUe may not Ims ut once recoKniit'.'d by ibe c^-^ual 
"Wrrer, who does not alrciKiy know what ii la- 
I'ti'tfJ, but ihere it »«. uevcrtheleM. Tbe follow- 
'"(( Bfti vmn'iple^ : Taf, ii., Bnchegg ; Taf. T, 
^■hfu ■ 1. ".\f. vi , Totunny, Ktir, Kilcbberi:, 
^^! , (iutinten ; T.»f. vji., Kejiiinjiiterj;, 

li'l'^^.. , I • iii , Bluiiienberg ; Tuf. xfi., Tor ; 
Uxvri, E-bri-t. 

T^B BerIt('I>>y injtre is now charffe<l with the 
*^« of the fiiioiiy. Thin d-tei not ;»ppei»r to haro 
'*»(i the '■•-'■ r.rii'lniiHr. In my (vijmt on "Tlio 
'^ml^!^y ■ I'lUheilml " (printed in Ibo 

•inalj r ji'i, voJ- i»',, and (iho piih- 

'"!'■ .1, will be found an coj^nviujj of 

^^ i' .111 Bi ittey nppear oarretl on ibe 

*iu (liippyhciMi uf Uie north row of atalts. There 



tha mitre is ancbdri^ed. In many of tbe instanOM 
which I bave given nliov^ the luitre la plain; 
but in other* (rjF.Sultr. Bin:hinj;en, Wyl, wider 
von Pfeffinj^on, Biicheg»r, Belmont, GiUinjren, 
U^>;fnsperg, and l!)|[hrcl) ilie mitre is ehsr>;ed with 
the family urni<, jiut m in the present use of tbe 
Berkeley and FitKturding familie>i. 

Joiis WauDWAIlD. 
Montrose. 

I W.1J once told by a nientbcr of ibc fuinily 
that they took a initre for their crcat in memory 
of the worthy Bishop Berkeley, but I doubt thi* 
derivuUoo, and think the crest must be of much 
more nDcienl origm. Strix 

William Nisbctt, noRiiiD at Upsala (6« 
8. ix. IBS, 40H, 483).— Attached to Mr. Home** 
Mnrrynt'i One Year in Smden i» an appendix 
Dontutuing a long list of Scotchmen who be- 
came naturalized in Sweden. Among ibeiio 
in **Kiebcth, en. (ennobled) 1GG4. William 
Nishet of Rochill, who in 159tl wai colonel 
of an Upland regiment, lies buried in Kumlit 
(old) Upaala Cbarcb, where hi« * wnpen ' (iirins) 
are *np««tt.*" As Kicchill or RaiKhill wui a 
pari of the barowr of Niabet (properly Nesbyt) 
in Berwick8bir(>,^^itliam Nisbec was probnbly 
»ome junior niembW of the family of Nisbet of 
Nisbei. The barony belonged Io that fumily from 
the twelfth (if not ibe eleventh) century until the 
sevente4>ntti, the Inftt laird of th:it f;iDiity being Sir 
Alexander, who built the oaatellated honsa still 
exisiiDK. The arms of the Ne*byu or Nifb«t» of 
that ilk were Ar-j , three \mh»' (not benrB*) beads 
erA.*ed sable. There arc mnny dvBcti-n'Unta of 
William Nisbet now existing in y«6>ifii, «s will 
be Men by any one who ihhv h.-\vo AulUcient in- 
tercst io the icutter to examine tbe Swedish pub- 
lication which oontAins tbe names of nieitjbera of 
Swe^lish noble famiHea. I cannot call to mind its 
correct title. 

Since t wroto tbe preceding I hntA r«ad Mn. 
Caruiciiakl's letter at the reference lant naiiietl. 
I should be glad lo be allowed to make n few 
observations un some of the poluta which be has 
mentioned, 

Firnt, as to the spelling of the name. It occurs, 
either as the name of n pJHce or ii» the de«igQatiou 
of raemberw of the fjimiiy who held llic burony, in 
nearly a hundred churters prcgerved in the trea- 
sury of Ibc Cutlifdrul of Ourliiini, hitvini^ been 
■ent there from the priory of Coltlinylmm, a de- 
pendent convent. The eiirlieet of thefie are of the 
twelfth cenliiry.nnd from that time to the fifteenth 
century tbe oiiine in inviritibly ^pelt wiih an * in 
the lir^t iiyllable. In the twelfth, tliirieetitb, nntl 
fourteenth centuries tho moxt cummun spellinga 
are Neabyt, Neubylh, or Nflsebit. From tho 
middle of the fifteenth century tbe name is 
usually spelt Kisbet in Scotland; but 1 found thtit 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



(QAS,X.jQLr U».*3(. 



the conotry people of the neidhbourhood Blill con- 
tiODfi to cuI) it Ke«bil. NcaUt bai an etymological 
ffODM— nM« = a promontory, n rock, b\fth — [i dwolU 
inff- I doubt if aay etymology ctia bo found for 
NibWI. 

It would, I ftpprehond, be a very difficult ninltcr 
to ascertain with nhoiu the rc'prcf>ont:tlion of the 
old line rest!*. It ii, infloed, Htuted in oan edition 
of Nlflbet'a IJeratdrtf thiit the family of Nishet of 
l>eau " 19 (bo only funiily of the natae in Scotland 
tbnt h:i:i rifjbt by consent to represent the old 
nri^finul ftimity of the name of Niflixit"; bttt I do 
not And these words in the edition of 172>2, and I 
doubt wbfihcr they had the eiioclion of the hembl. 

As the Denn family descended from a yoiintfer 
eon of Adftiu Ncshyt of Nesbyt, who lired about 
the middle of the fourteenth century, and the buc- 
cecdioK Uirdi had many youDger sodk, it seems 
probnble that in the screnlceDth century inftoy 
Ni*he(ii or NexbitH (if aot in Scotland) in Kti^'- 
lund, Irclnnd, or even Sweden, could bare claimed 
to reprciient the orit;innl fLiniily with more reuon 
Ibin the head of the Dean branch. 

In the llecord Office are preserved two petttionn 
from Sir AlexAuder Nixbet, the Inat of thnt ilk, to 
Chailei II., ODQ dftlcd 1600, the other IGG2. In 
tbmecond he suyH thnt bis debts were oonimctod 
in the rervice of Kinp Chnrlee I., and thitt he lost 
all hit children, the eldest, Sir Pbili[>, having beeu 
bebeaded) and the rent "iilayne." Vn\c^^ thin wns 
«ar«l«Mly writtt-n. it seeiim to nef:.ntive the herald's 
claim to rf>|>rc4eiit the famrly. In 16G5 Sir Alfx- 
ander obtained what he had petitioned for, viz , the 
power to notiitnatc a luitiible pcnton to be created 
a " kniuht and baronet " (ride State Papers, Doiiies- 
tio Berieii, April tU, IH€!>). I hare not been able to 
Moertniii wliHt afierwards hnppened, nor when or 
vh<>re he died, or whotbcr liu left any will. 

Amon^ the chart«ni of (be aht»ey of Melroae. 
now iM |M)i!ie?wion of iho I)iike at Bucrleuch. are 
two of Tbi)inii4 de Ni'nUit and bis wife Aiiiabilis, 
circa 1230. To Lhe-ie are appended impreiiiioui of 
bi»«eal, on whioh he w reprf«rntrd mounted on a 
jpiIlopiDif borsu. The Icfjend runs, "Sig, (Tbu) 
oie Hlii Kitleborti." 

The Ouldiiii^ham charters have been printed by 
Mr. Ratne, n«t an appendix lo bin TiUiory of Kofth 
Vurbiim. They Oil iitore thao 1^0 fulio \tAnrK 

ALKX. NiftlBITT. 

" DoK JcAK," CAyra xv. Stanz*. 66 (e*" 8. 
ix. RIO) — Thii Bccminuly incorrect fi»fm occiini in 
lh« nnifTidiinie edition uf Utrd Byron'H poetical 
wurk»| publixli^d tiy Jobo Murray in 1846. 

A NOV. 

PKA8*iirT ro*Ttrirra im Esui.Ann (fl"" S. ijt 
9TO> — When I wa« n bny rhtt pwnrnnt rontumei in 
l>iirtiatii And Korthumbcrlund wvr* ipnte di>tinct 
from the tuodera drc». The ekirt wiu one gor- 
Bcotf the jacket ofioiker, guucally muJo of n 



differoDt material. So in Lnacajhin, the liTi^^y 
woolsey petticoat nod the bedeowo of c 
were nerer joined to|j;«iher, but were fi> 
menta. The custom of wearing a ahawl oc Lxuid 
kerchief on the head inniead of a cap or booaa 
WHS ntso usual. £. Lkatok BLKKEixsurr. 

W. S. L. S. asks for traditioni or other erideoc 
of peouot cobtumea havinif been worn in V.u^U 
This implies (hat he thinks none auch are wor 
now, aud, so far 09 Tne» are coDcerncd, that 
approximately true. The emook-fruck is Iho onl« 
dietinclive dress of the male peauant, na fara»l 
know; and where it aurvires, ita colour and lb« 
pattern of its worked threads ghow the neighh 
hood itbeloti^ato, Some nfi);hbourbaodi w«bi| 
smocks, some purple, a<ime ^tvj, some wht(& ^ 
within my owD area of observation at lea 
smock-rrock is diiiappearing. lo diaries of I 
or twenty yean ago I find it often nipntioned ihii 
at such ft Tilla;{e, or in such ii countrj church, 
most of the mea wore smocks; and now, ia liiofti 
verr villages, I seldom see n imock. 

bo much for the men. As to the women, tbtogi ^ 
are Dot quite so Imd. I know of my own know- 
ledge at least uine diffi^rent and wide!/ distanl 
net;:hbourho(HU in En}{bmd, and At Icrast two in . 
Wilier, where the peas.tQt women oiid i.-' ' \] 

distinctive dress ; and wear the same dr- 
they be young or old. It ia true that la civty j 
instance the oostumo is a working dre?*, and Utj 
more or less laid aside on SuadLtys. Still, it is a| 
dixtinctire dreas ; and in fire out of tlie elcrettfl 
caaef! it diatinijuishes the women of a given Tillnfsl 
from dU other women. Id the other six, the lt>c^>] 
dre^ hat u wider aren ot uausge. £?en in Londa 
there are women who daily wear a diaiinciii 
peaiaot dress, and women whose dresa bawray 
tbiMii that they onuie from 6tank<thire. And 
the country, I have had it said to me over a lied^' 
*'l)n ye wunt any Ulackaore women?" Aud I 
knew by her dre» that the speaker was hentlf a 
blaekriore woman. It ts sup^riluous t > 
in every cose the local dre»s \t far more i 
and Bcrvtceablo Ihan that which iir.- I 
Ity Taxhion. As to one garment, < 
the hood bonnet of bulT or white .,. ..,,.. 
it is Btill, iharik (;n(Klae<i!i, the characteriili 
• •f couulry wonuMi all over Kn^IaDd. I bafs 
FecQ it abroad, except in the KbineUad, 
Strasbourg. Enj;tiith peasant girts, fooUti 
itiiitatiro na thej often nre, have perhdp* 1h 
wit to tee that thid is the most cbjuuiiu^; | 
drt*«a Id esistence. A. J. 



Tl.^ 



T. « 1.. 



>»Ion a*ked l-^ W >^ 
f' iTj'^e the t 

(•• ■ my old h'.i 

Molly honninu woro a gown of t 
skirl, with elbnw slecvrt ; a low 
ckiei tuck«d Laaida ; a rouDd'fsnnl oap. 




NOTES AND QUERIES. 



67 



I 



border ; and % block silk hat, with a very low 
crown nnd lar^ roaad fl it border, which wad pinoed 
on her lifttd. A redclaik nnil ti long xt^itTcimpIeted 
hfr a.uir?. WIu'd sent, as it girl, by my mother 
with ionie gift, I found tbe old wundn sealed in 
her bi^b-bocked chair, and receivio^ her vl^Uord 
with a ilAtely eourlesy that is ^vutviAy m^t n'uh 
except ftoiong the lii^heat ma\c». In her youn^<<r 
dayi fhe b;id wee<ied ut Dilliuuton Purk, ctoso to 
llmiottor, in the time of Lord North, who m:irried 
MiM Speke. She wo*, imr«rtuaat«ly, pecsaaded 
IB her later years to give up her piclnresqaa co«- 
linoe, nod adopt Ibo otdimry unmennin;; dre«ii of 
the pnnrer chwies, CuiatoTTE G. Boobs. 

tit. BtTiQxu'K 

Catubrike BABi^nroM (C* S. ix. 49(f). — X 
KUiprcl thftt tbo C*theriDe Uiibingloo who 
miirried Ci>l. Tboiuai Pijpjtt waa the widow of 
Thnuiu nahinjitorijof tbe Greenfort family, detaiU 
of which lire «jiven in the fourth edition of Burke'a 
Lar ;/. at n. Q uf the Supplement (and in 

no ' !]}. I buve not n copy of the fmirth 

ed(i)0!j ^i^ij.jj ;i,r. Iliad, and ata therefore unublo to 
j gire further porticitiira. Sigma. 

KKiGnmoon (6'*" S. ix. 489).— William the 
ronqneror is mid to have knighted his cook 
Tegelin. The -ervice by which be hnd won 
biightbootl coDsiffted ta the invention of it white 
loup for mi,i^re d»y«. Richard IT. wm the first 
kioK who knit{bTed a Lonrlon trftdeamnn. W»t- 
worth, who itruck down Wat Tyler, and who wan 
knixlited by th:kt kiuj; for his g'>od lervice, wus 
IcDjAgtd in commercial pnrsnits. 

LiLUH C CbAV£9. 

In tbe BnrycUtptrdut BrttonntMi i.v. " Koigbt- 
[ ImhkI," it is «t.it«d : — 

•'9irB*Iph P>«n«. Sir Prutirii Rrjfin, Mi(t Sir Ualpb 
l^Jier. werii croat-J l.iimur'-t* l.y tlir I*orii I'lotCiitor 
-' • ■ '.iltJu o( I'i'ikio m 1.117, nil I the 

11* WIL* lIlQ lrL>t OCCfViOri (III Wlllch 

'«h1. t( li'ii tteuii titiite I, iniecJ, 

' r^ir Joliii Hiiiith h It mtior^t nftflr 

I in ItJ42, for ti^vini; r^^cuL-'l tlie 

III- ... .lid eticmy. But of tliii there ia no 

t ffuirf. " 

Edward H. MAnsnALL, M,A. 
The Library. CUr«inviit, U«iUn|{*, 

KiJria AaTiiun (e"* 8. x. 9).— I can only help 

|Mr. Malatt one trivial otop uprm the wjiy. The 

*' blayde alle of C'xieyno '' is no doubt a bluOe of 

"^idojine »ieel, a» ha may see by reference to tbe 

' Dtt d* rA|j<i^l/)ile," tbirtfi^urb centur), qnoti?d 

by Ij> U"iix d(» VMu'.v, i. IHO. under tbe beading 

[" Cologne, Kep^o de Loll .jjue." 

G A. Ward. 
nawntoek fliU. 

lo trply lo your ■ 
(not f^iDtHy M ni 
loQowiag Udoffrvy'^ 



■'Til, as to prydtpirii 

>> Writers bavo it, 

reudcriu^), tbe Diuue of 



Artbnr*a khieU, T bog to state that the name ii 
n compound of prj/if, crtnicly, and wtn, lltcmUy 
white, but u.ied tn Cimbro-Britiih for holy, 
Tbe full uietniuif, therufore, is " the comely holy 
one." Oe-ilfrey's d^Kcriplion is as follows: " Uo 
hit [Arthur'o] fthoulJ^n lii.i »hield c.-illfil pr{Wfttf 
upon which the picttnre of the lilcssed M^ry 
mother of God, was pjioted. In order to put faiiA.1 
freq'ienlly id mind of her." Pryhoen is tbaf 
Drnidic character which the U'lmaits adopted for 
their coins, and named Britannia. The cha- 
racter if a poetical pL<rsunification of "the isle of 
Brituin," us the Welih hards still name lbit| 
country. Apparcuily Arthur bad painted oa 
bis shield the Bjjtire of Britannia, which tbe early I 
monkish writer-i mistook for tbe figure of thf I 
ble^^ed Virgin Mary. I must add that wheal 
Dntuin wai referred to ai Prydwen, the sun wn*j 
named Prydaio, meaning the ihinine beautiful 

OD'^. MORIKir. 

The A>h][rore, Treforeit, Olamorxan. 

Scomsit Broiukhts (e"* 8. riiL 406; ix. 61, 
172, 197, 200, 339, 416).— TA* BUtory of iht 
ScoUisK iliijUIand*, Uighland Claru^ atid High- 
Itntl It/jjimaiU, by the Kev. T. Slaclaiichlan, ^ 
1877, 2 vols., roy.aI 8vo., biu the ckn tartnnfj 
priuted in coUurv. B. P. ScARXcrr. 

Salt ijt Magical Kites (e'o S. U. 4«l j x. 
37).— I hftvo known Milan and its nrt treasurer 
more or leu well for tbe p^ist twenty year^ but 
Miss Bugk has the odvantatce of rae. and I think 
uf nin<t of ui, in having lately seen there a " Oena- 
colo" by Michael An^elO' The only "Cenacolo* 
which used to be ^eoerally visited by tourists ta ' 
my day vaa that by Leonanlo da Vinci, in thftj 
former convent of Santa Mnria dello Graxie.^ 
There ure, of ooune, valuable Ofpies, ntt so gene-' 
ndly visited, by Marco <rOi'i;irtDno, B-iuhi, and ' 
Bianrhi. in iho church of St BaroaW, ^(llan, and 
at the Br' hi. And there is a very iiiteresiirig 
Marco il'O^utonno (this attribution is doubted hy 
Richier, but the Roynl Academy continues it) U 
Ibe Diploma Gallery of the Royal Academy. 

What m<iy be the position of Jud-as in the 
" 0<"nacolo " which Miss Bdsk attributes tn 
Michael Angolo, I of course do not know, as T 
have never seen the picturt-, and do not find it in 
CharleH Clement's list of Michael Anf;e1<i's works 
in hi^ charminij volume, J/irAe^ Angih, Ltnnnrdo ' 
ill Vinci, (if(d Ilaf>ha':l (translated by Louisji 
Oifkran, Lm-I., tH84>). But in the "C'enacolo" 
by I^oniriln >]n Vinci thiTc ran be no diMiht that 
Gorihe «aw whjtt Miss HrsK failed to finH in 
the ** Oenxcitln '' which nbe mtrihiitpB to Mirhael 
Ani^olo. Richter in his ailiiiirnble LtOHnrdo d4 , 
?"»««", in the "Great Artists" Series (L'»nd., 
IbSO), yivcs ft long ami full extract from Goethe's 
description, in which (he upieliiog of tbe salt- 
cellar by Judas is distiaotly tueationed, op, cit.f 




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££>: H ?*:. '.'ltz -"-^^ S "t i::>: i.l3).— The 
^r-dx 2-: 11 H :'n.r -B Li Mij.r».ri. Ai I wu toM 
:i izx: :.-;.tc :. ;; .i -.!« -uirt if the settlement of 
I Mr-T-ia :-:••. 1= ; hklla-i cli.M'ea orsoof. Thus, 
£•:::'. Iirie. w.l.L z^ixz. im jiil'-irea of Israel. 

U£X^T U. GlBBS. 

Pi«T:-_»x-.: :s- E.'':-.iv:> tx 1521 (6'-* S. \x. 

•Sr Z.'. :'r~. ■;."■. 0.' — ta 1 CVlrJllo^J^tV -f 

_=.- .. .., .-• ... „. .;...Lr^ ;■:-•■: rr* tcltk somi Hi- 

• ■ '•■ ■' -V '•" '- .l-ii-iil B'fdies, 4c., I'j 

/i .rj s_ r. r.;i< . L ri o. 17 .J. toI. i. p.201- 

- ^ :e : i-i nn ict^.-estLn;; account of the 



■■ i ; : r \z^' 1 :• * ■which be ^-.in in the year 14S5, 

AC'i c.r.::-iTi a.: :="em'.* to the year 1523. It 
iri-UiIj c.Ctd "iwta.liDg sicknesa," ''malijj- 
fr-::*»i ferer.* and ** pU^i'ie," but not re- 



year 

CAat 

c.riw xi hxr'.zz Uea so especially HTere in the 

v-.ir lii: ^'.^ :: wt* in the Telr* 1500, ISl^o, 

:::\ ::.3. :.:::. iza, ^nd iciis. 

C. L. PitlNCE. 

W" iir-'s v:::! Malk CnR:sTiAN- Naues (C* 
?. :x. l"^'.*. 3- .'. -ioi'. ol7 . — I; mu^t nut be con- 
c' r. [rd iLi'. Ccc-.'.i'^ a wouian v:i:i fiiiiiiUarly ctlled 
W'.'.ly cr JlIet L^r r.:in]e w;ia William or Jobo. 
Iq b.:iLf;:e4 and G:iilov.-iy Wilhelmina and 
Jaco: :c:k are hv ni mear.^ nccf^mnioQ names; of 
course cbey voLiId \e called Willy and Jacky. 
To d;9:iT:i:'j:^h these from luen'i nauies, the latter 
vere ciIU-I WuUy and Jock. 
' £. Leatus Blexkiksoff. 

Or.rr.R lf iniE Suutqerx Cboss (6^ S. ix. 
■ 10:1. 237^ -A. J. D. is correct. Thii order ir.« 
intended to uni:e the soldiers of the Confederate 
AriiiT, and vaa fuunded or introduced into Ike 
iiniiy of TiTne»$ee by General Patrick Ronayne 
Ctiit-urne. The proposed decoratioa or badge tm 
',, A. .<-rrt,'irt l'rr.t-(V...\ Il.trr.hrii:, hy nhrim »be two c^o^3e^ each of eight points, forming; a star; u 
^1 .1 *•. It «; I ijh'f r-, the **0"rid »<f ni.'hi e-p ii-(d fiiialler cruM of dull gold, the lari^er one of green 
y.t Vt.T ..\ J;.'-'.ri; 't, .S r J-.i.n P.ickiii^tun, whn eu»ruel ed^ed with gold, chai;ge<i with n inialler 
] -i'A f'/ ***• hi cr.ildrr-n'd chlMri-n, and died c^o^s of same form enamelled whit« and edjed 
.f.ifi. IV, \f',tTt^ tli4 f-.-iriif; yciir in uliicb Sir R-jbett with gold ; centre oral of white ennmel ehaind 
;«'*-»'Ui>irri w.iiicr*'A*frrlixtrd Kilninrry ; '3^ Viscount | vitb a ealtire engraUcd Tert, end eummndcd BT 
Kiinir^rey, 16^, who Hied 1G27 (Burke*« Poruyc] ; a motto ** Liberty "; obrcnt, oval entra U iw 
(1; TLomfl', Eirl of Kelly, one of King James's enamel chaigcd with a lalUn Um t^id with J 



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irrhite, atid fhatifed with eleren silver lUni ; 
riblKtn nf dark green sillf. Ctcburoe, who was 
An EQ>;1ifihtiian Cy de«ceut nod ao Iriabman by 
birih, bud bii intonM) ailmlrntiori for the Irian 
bri};tide be coiTiiit;iniled. Ho wa.i the finit to sug- 
gctt the freedom at the nlares by earollio); thcin 
noi] allowiog them to 6itlit for Ibeir lib(^ny. He 
WAi killed »t tbe battle of Franklin, Noventber, 
l&W. JoyKEA. 

"A" Afl A War Cut (6* a it 306). —In 
Honter'a South Yorhhire, vol. ii. p. 417, a con- 
tempnnry roanticcnpt in t|iin[ed (giving an account 
nfcertnin proceed inys at York on the eve of the 
HealorAtioo. We are told ihnt on this occaaion 
ibe citiz'>ns cried out "A Fiurfnx, a Free Piirlia- 
ment." The Fairfax meant wm, of coarse, Tbonias, 
the great lord, the TJclor of Niseby. 

Madkl Pbacock. 

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Tmi n«v eiliiixii if tba lata Tliomiu Wri^-lii'n tlloturici 
i* » work cf tiij^h nwnt. It in in ni«nj rr^pecU better 
thftn th« on^ciiutl, ftnd tlie ftrat tfdition Imd become to 
touYB Ai lu li') uuC of tli« reacti of ncirly all lhi>ie 
•tfl<Sent« wlio would h*Vtf iisc-4 it witb lulvftDUMta. 'Die 
prv'Cfit e>1it'>r Iim xdil«(I tljlTO important cIoMnriM 
win ' ' ri exrliidc^i )'T Wrttflit. On tli* ntlier 

hftti ■ t out tufl I'tiier* which br.rc I'ut Ten 

•I'l^: t) tlitt uiirlr loiTnfl of tbe EiiKlitb la't- 

sa*)Co. 1 i><3 *«' <^''<) voluuio uf tlie [ircscut iitiie ia enUrely 
laltcb up witii iniloK'H— one nf rAlin wordii, snutber of 

Ahl' 

dp. 

Tf : - 
Wc 
la V 

to '■- 
of : 

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lid b third of Old Knt;li»b. Tbeie i^- 
lUkUrUlly ti> tlio valua of tho book, 
tbem in a •omewUnt elaborate niunncr, 
iliem to bo exhftaitire. Tho editor hii 
iit't niiioa anil Added a few of bis own. 
I (riTet) U4 fnr morr'. A book of IbiA lort 
■■ Mniount of •nnotAtiin tbiit ran be ciren 
■^^ H fitiil'iloci^l u Dr. Wiilcker. Many 
'' < leci th«n tbfl Snzon, will be 

. KuDie of tbe En[ilish wurda 
I'lotlyto trantlfttc tbe Latin, 
bat ot>ir (•* i[i«« lli« fitip4tar nam* for tho liatin thtn^r. 
Ttiuj wo And " MaoiMlo, a oryttynnliiicbokc." Tbe 

fit- 
otr, 
th.-! 
Kwt ' 

wt.^ 



. . . I „ ^ _. n — 



ratnillu* with Ancient 
.4 beside tbe ba|itii)mal 
"ImI TonkhuUr/ is tine of 
iiitheboolt. ItllM.HC tbinli— 
— b«*n written by fcoma one 
>untlra. Grtte uu iben tlio 
'p al»ir; now tbe word naly 
a* W9 h4T0 teen given to 
■untjr of .Norfolk. 
.'.• byi'ittba r>f tbe 
'. \SM llio rule fiT 
^'jiik'i Older ibt-re must 
4. WoHrfi told (but II') 
k-<>- ">iu but beoit bum toutli 
■( NawcaatU-upon-Tjrna. We t«iU not CQotrovort tbia 






very bold aUtement, but should mooh like to know of 
wliftt UM our furefnthera tliought th« tatter K to tto. 
They wfrnbl not b&ve tiMd it at all bud it nut hml anina 
power or valuo iti tbvtr eye*. AUnr occurB hcrt- aa 
" H«wt«r«," alh aa '• liFiwb'*," ati at •• ha«," nnJ emjntit 
a* "hcnipryw," On tbe othor band, It ia fw from 
unfomiiiixi t'l find in medbier«l wnthiga thoM wor ' 
wbicb. aeirordin^ to the tuag« of the latt lhr-« oentiiri< 
hi*T« It^-n written with an atplntta appeariiisf with att' 
injlial vowel. Tlie Latin t,t tbe Mlddl« A)*'^ hi4 lH*eil 
n«)cltutcd until recent d*yi. Tlto tevital of lott« 
nuulo men ibiok i\n> litornry Un(^n|ce of t)ie Iom| 
I>orio<l which »Upee<l Itetwren the day a of Boetbiuaao' 
Eraimui a barbarous jpuvon, not fitted for the oultlrated 
ear« wbich coold dcliiibt tbcmiolr^a with tbe awret 
•trains of Virpl or the rolling pariwla of Cicero. It U 
only in rery recent dAva that the atudy of mcdiairal 
Litin baa called forth the attenlii-in wbich ia due to it. 
We kD'iw of few books which wdl be more uiefid to 
cxplorora in tbia field than the clonariea before as. 
They contain Bcveral tboiuand Latin word), many of 
wbicb arw quite new to tbe ordinary tcholar, Tbey at« 
aptlt in all aorta of tiroteaqae and conventional rr>rmeh 
Tbu atntea in wbich they appear ahow tliat while l.Atin 
held iu own aa the literary and. in a curtain ecnie, 
the apoken tonf^e of Rurxpo till far down in the alx> 
teenth centuiy, it was influenced erer tnor4 and more, 
time went on. by tbe modem tonguei wbich were gro 
ing up around it, 

Uutory (if Kntjtaxd from tkg Afffuiam of J.tatt I to th4 
OHllrrut ft/ the Ciwii War. By Samuel K. Oarilnor, 
LL.D. Vol. X. tUngmanaft Co) 
Mr. 0AiiDr5rB'9 task ia now coTDpiete^l, and bit hit* 
tory of tbe force* wbich prepared tbo way for and 
br')U);bt about tbe rcrolalrnn and the Citil War cttnda 
before the public in Us integrity. At ditTeront itagea in 
the proRroiB of ib« biitnry we bate drawn nttontion to 
its fraturea, tnchnlini; tbe manner in whicb the accttonal 
hiatorirs bavr l«ett wplded into a wbnie, and bare dwelt 
upon tbe cbaraoteriatlca of the workmanaliip. Tbe 
c'.mplc-lion i>f tbe task it a matter on wbleli the r.-»dinp 
public ii to he Odnp-Atulatod. Apart fnint the merita uf 
atyle, wbich are a* noteworthy in the concluding portion 
a4 in tbe earlier, aome ap*oial odvantagea are now for 
the tirst time to bo naliied, Tliose who read tbe cap* 
tivAltntt chaplera on tbe attempt on tbe five meubera, 
tbe BtrufTu'e for the milltit, and tbe eve of the Civil 
VV^r will rre ibat tbe autbor'a cITDrta have not relnxc'l, 
ond tbnt bia coii«icientiou4 labinr hoa been malntainpii 
tn Uie close. Tbe entire biitory bai, indeed, in a hi>:b 
degree, the glfta indiapcnuahle to a work of the cIai*. 
lucidity, falrDeaa (by wbich ia meant an impartial and 
a yni gmap of tbe balnnca), aocaracy, and Intcroat. 
l'h«t no slip ahoald have boon maJe in a task to arduout 
aa baa been Kccnmphthi<d wna not v> be expected. A 
Hat 'if tfnxtn aupplicd by tbo author hitntrlf, and by two 
t<r three uf hia frii^ndi, *-eenia Inni; enough to juttify an 
apology which appL-ara in tbo prcfncr Uj ibe laat volume. 
When reduciKl, liuwever, by thu ointaiton of aueh lti](lit 
errura ns tbe abtenoe of a letter from a naiiio. the 
runitini; of two worda into one, and tbe lik<^, tlic b't ia 
imntler (ban ini^i'l bavo been expected. Tbecomlud- 
in^ vulunio, mwuiwbilo, is cuncbed by an litdL-x cover- 
ing 01)0 bundre-1 aud fitty dfub1e-coIumrt<-d pn^'a. 
E?try lin': of Ibia bna horn written by Mr Ourdincr, 
■nlio liiild)*, very riiiblly, tb^t ■' no one but the autliur of 
a h'lok can h'ipe tn achieve in l)ii* ileiiorlnient even tbe 
T>e^->iive tuoceM of not caaitrtrating thoee whn vrith to 
fltudjr the work fteritnisly." Hatber loo ainall for i<ei-rco| 
Cfimfiirt or reference ie the type of the index. So Cum- 
prrhanaive and aervloeable ti it, however, that an in- 



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tC'k&XJn.Tld.'St. 



TiUtioii la LoU out to rocnrd it m a work of refer- 
ence Ap*rt from tlie Toliimoft it follows. Tn tba cnh of 
men like ihe MmrquiB of Hamilton, Sir Ttiomm Went' 
worth. Dii'l otl<er#, the iixlt'x &Iino«t ananara the pur- 
pOM (if ft coti(}euied tji'<ti;riii>h7. Anotlier fo«iuro Iti Ibt 
\olanio reTj nsvfui for rorvrenct> ii the PftrlittBiftiliirj 
Mnp which tg |>rc(iTe(l. U u olivioualy itii[i<>e>ible tn 
den) At »nj lenfttb with rlic ehuracter of a Wdrk of thi<< 
iiiagnttudc. Tlii« i<i tlio Un oeeiifu) n* tlie T.tri>iUs 
■cvtions of (lio history bnve von uf>»rKt« tribato. On 
ibe maiinor in which he hm united thrM Mr. Onrdin«r 
ii to be congratulated, the result bfttiii; more tbftpely 
■nd well pr<-porlini>od ttmri wa* tu bo cx]'«ct«d uiider 
the ccirtdiliuim. The woric tnkea at r-nre TAiik hs «n 
suiLorily, ftnd in » lonee aa u cluasic. No fairer or more 
judlclt'Ua hrvtorr of the epoch li»i yet lecn Iho )>»!•{. 
Jt u ptonMint to think tlint, lhi« lubotir I'Chi'^Vtd, Mr. 
fiardlmr will return Ut the Ui<U of contltinaiii-i) pre- 
TiouRly con.ioenoed. imd in part acC'itiipltttlicd. J be 
world will gbtdlj welcome bid biiiory of the CiTlI War. 

JIfnrji Jrv'iii; in Kniland and Amrvica, 183^-Sr By 

Frederic l>aly. (FlahiT I'ltwin.) 
Tub t'Sh «f wHtlniE cont^mponiry biography \» difficult 
Atid IhatikleH, and the life of a living m%n is all but sure 
to pMrtiikt* of the nature of an arf>tot<y. This in Oie ukH! 
with Mr. rfnly'fl life of AFr. Inriiiir. A f«lr inemurt) nf 
crlnoal iiidepr-ndent-e U exhibited, and no bcaitatinn ia 
khuwii in fiyitic tbitl loiiie ptrrformiincva of Mr. Iriing 
are lefs utiii-rni tory t'lan i-i)ie>s. Tbc author ia never- 
tliclcM conipeltrd to rvfoird ai In somo teiiio lU-uaed 
aiid ut'juatly uttitcki-d a ni>i) whoH triumph baa tHieti 
In ita liiiB iu« moat rspid aud »iynal on record, and tu 
Inok on tb« Mprcfiion of critieul divFent aa in%\>lTint; 
■ome form of lioalility. Mahinir altowatice for tlicie 
prihiip^ UDaTDlilaldp dlQicnltipa, the execution of tbt: 
work 11 i;ood. Tbf biography ti at Icatt cmirtf-ntty road- 
ublc. A portrait by U. LaUuio U an aErDcablo feature 
iu the Tuluuie. 

D^iTiil/keiti iKir/ tht WtiUTH Rivitra. Wj FrederirV 
Flliroy iiamiltfin, Tn»n»Iated from the Irench. wiih 
Additionol Matter and Nt/t^t, by Alfred C. Dowwn. 
(Siut<fi>rd.) 
Ma. DhWsoic'b Irftiidoibjn r.f M. UaTuiltoii'a wotk on 
Bordlphera and We*lern l<iffiina in well executed. The 
oriiflniil euppiira full ir.(i.>miation, not only oti tbc 
bUtory, tlio i>l.ytical conFormation and thn feature* of 
rrnidenlial life in thia attn«oti«c portion of Europe, but 
ileal* at cor.-MernHo IsuKtb wiib the itetilo(ty, fauna 
and :" [her kindled »iibjectj. Cbaptom on the 

Ri'! ■Wys.on Rritiibopomti'-inr'n the Riricra 

in I' - .,, . 'Ji century, and practtcalhiiitfl to Eti||lisli 
rc»tdcDt4 npptar for the first time. Tba chapter Ubt 
rarevd la, ttiJced, wnttcD by SI. Bamilton cxprotily for 
Ibe work. 

Ma. ff. B. WmuTiiTT hai ptibliabefl, tliroosb Mr. 

Elli. " ,'pj>-« V:t Lift v/ Jo/ti* Pavne Coltirr, 

wit I ' li«t of 111* W"ri(tf Tlio Teo'ird "i »n 

)r di! rifffiil lire )i Titluab|i<, nnJ the biMlo. 

of the Kpuii'Ule aavlKO it specbil »ahir<, 
la and the i!untrovBr>li« tn wbteh thcfe 



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iMOnomjf on Mr. J'tr^nMODi /'arUtftom anii Tmpttl 



of Diana, and on " Mod«ra 8puiialk LlLtntun^ 
afao Appear. — Sir R. Colebrcknke'a £.•/« of M<m 
ituart Klphint*Oht, Juh««n Sebastian Bacli, F, 

3fniirii^c,ttnd Hcff:er> /; ' ' ■■■■'! - f -i th 

jcct i.f pnp<;ra in the /; 
oaiay on the ineCDOtTa uixl i 
de Vitrolltf. 

Cait. H. C. TncrtK. PROS . M U A.S.. &<-,, Oanb 
ment Magtutnite, Anibiili^, )'aiijftl>. c lit^r of tbe /'iitij_ 
A'o/«i fill Qvenft and many works nn lodtnn aub^ci 
proprtec« tn l«5iie by vubicripli <n. in eiifht vnlnma""""^ 
(if Nb'itit ftOO pp. aacfa, a tranil'ilion ot 'Cmf 
TatrAniK. men-oira and dinrio written dnr 
ttiiira of Mabdii^il &«i>iit Sinjjh, of Labor, and 
cemon, by the Ute LitFii S<>bftn Liil, Ftirf Klia'T 
at the t^ntirt of the M»hiirAja« of the V^njk 
M-V^A.P. to the Britiib ucciii<Riiiini fnim the l. 

VtT9:Ait MS.M. ill do jHi(i«e«-ititi of hi* dMcer.il*!*! 

Mfil C'innd and Lata Uarblia,;aUii V&%, of iMntt. TMfl 
C'llIrcliiJi liK* liiyl>e«t intercit and tkIuO, and we arv 
frlad l» brinj; th« proposal l>efnrr oar reAden. Tba 
di*i>iron!< tn aubfcribe ebould apply to CapL Temtde i 
the abovo addrcu. 



fiQtUti la Co rrrtfpontir nU. 

n'e matl tail ifitrittl aUfnhonfo lh4 foUotrinif n0tkm^ 

Ob all cuinmonicatlon* niuxt be written the name i 
addreaa of the kender,not nere»arily for puhliotkin, Imt 
aa a guarantc** of g<>od faith. 

yj B cannot undertake to aniwcr qoerWa privately. 

To accnrc inlcrti(^n of conimunicationa corrc«pnn-!fnfi 
mutt obaerve the fnllowinf; rule. Let each 
or reply be written {>n a acnarata slip of ph!. 
tipiatnre of the writer and guoh itddreaa a* li . 
appear. Corrwpondtriitfl who repcKt(|iierie« are rcqueiii 
to bead the accond coutniunicutiuu " Ihiplicata." 

C. A. Wiitit. — A looK account (if the rurioua edItU 
of Peter Wiilini will be found in I*owndc*, mi.ler I 
Ijcad " Wi!lcina," The cimtract Iv w' - V ■' 
aatigned tiy tba author, Ilobert Tali 

Idu, i« there raid to be preserved in ■ 

London Inititution. Our Ute corfcaptimlcuL .Mil JtUt 
CnosstXY claimed (1" S. x, 212) to be in pftscwkm) 
the a*tlpiment in uuestioo. See aUo 1" 6. iL CSi): 
18; Ix. 543; x. 17, 112. 

gttCiKiiB ("Cbaatenoy"),— Tha place at wbUli "1 
pais de Monileur" wai ligncd aCitl tiiM^ 
called Cbntenay (Seine et Alaroo), and la ut. . 
town of little more thao 700 iiil-'*-'---''- - ■ 
between Klamboin and Mont>t> 
from the former luid thirteen fr". 

K. U. Itiaanecc TiaaT (" OUuui • < 
" Id ipiiid eii piwitaiitipamium mn 
rmmibua aaaia et bonia at hratia cum tl^i:n me ^•utim 
Cicero, /"!» /». SacL, cap, 45. See "N. ti Q." 4*B. i 
145. 

O'wniorTTiA.-IV n. cob % \. fi, for "F 
/frfiJ/; 1. in', for '• Itubah" read /fo/.aa. 1 , 
1, Iti frvm boitoai> for " p. 25" read it. 250. 

'" ' ■ ' " ■ ■ ■ ■ I'ldraued to' 

'- rotiiMiajcnla aad 

■ &t the ua««, : 

Ixintion, W,C. 

ot we deelin« to retVTB * 

.....,„. »i,i.u. "Mu J., 11,1 luy nNueniwedeoot BrtM; 
to ibia mic we caa make no nceplioo. 




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A LITEKAIIV ORAKR. 
(Ctrntinv^'l/fon p. 22.J 
la rpopfniDf? this lubjert it leems dfnirable in 
dtftl vjth the Bjatem of lUdiciiiionr, a hiihit whteb 
bid grown to a ludicrous extent In KliK:«bethaD 
lim«e, itnd thui becune the more faUy fxpotcd 
hf the inereiunnii %cilvitj of Ihe press. The.<ie itp- 
piications or introductionp, practically pclitions, 
wvn priourily offered in m.\DU9criptf the printing 
being ft woondArf ofiAir, with ulterior results not 
eantemplkted at the first iD^tituLton of the praoticc. 
The liiiweTer, worked a practical care and 

]td nation (if stjio, nwlDK to the aotanl 

kbsTir'HLv <>. piihtiabiug soch high-flows ndulittion^ 
mwnt only for the primt« ear. 

The Venui ""■' i^'. '"• was addresied by Shak- 
ipere to Lor i ton, and the entry bean 

date at SUtiof. i , April IK, IS03. Marlowe 
4Ud in June of the snoie yt^r. Tbo iDtorrol is 
ibort, fcat wc nrc not tied to these actaal dates in 
oor tiea of Sbakspcre's allu- 

idiii; -'II that his lordship ni'ifi 

hxic limi ihif M&. Hi liis hands, With an offer of 
the dedication, before it ever appeared iu print; 
l^a ksbvn uu^ neoeiaitatea this admiuton. 

Now ai to Ui« auuMte nnmbered 21, 32^ 38, 
tK MidiMl Dnyton wm one of the great cele- 



brities of his era, and became Poet Lnnreate. Ilia 
Arat known publication wiu rclij^iouii, und is 
entitled TTu Harmony «•/ the Church, c(J7t((itriiw</ 
SfnritHal a&rw nnd UiAy Hymn$t 1591; but it 
w«a nipprMtoa by authnrity ; reprint, I (1 10. \Va 
shall hflTA to deal further with this word hymnt 
which forms a dreadful stombliDg-hlock with out I 
Dantophilist. Drayton's next work is entitled j 
Idta: the Shtpherd'f Garland, in JS'inr I'Jchgtus;\ 
OTf RowhindCi Sofj-ifiee to tfu Nine i\riuu, 1C1)3. 
nowlaud was Drayton's nom de plume, and hii 
head-title of Idea is used by Spenser in the same 
sense, Sonnet 4A, " The fair Idaa of your celestial, 
hue." The word itself nteans "the semblance oM 
A thing," cot a reality, and is •tigmatif.^-d by Shak«l 
apere, Sonnet 21, aa *'a painted beauty,** i*S|.[ 
•omethine " made up." This work of Drayton's, j 
though affected, is not bikd; as a sample of putorili 
Terse iC may psir off very well with the Sfirphrrd 't 
f*arf»ff(irof Spenipr; but, nias! in the fifth euloyuo | 
Drayton mounts his hobby, and being thus argrd : 

" Tune thy pipe lo tby Idea's praise/' 
he responds ; — 

" Shall I tlien fint ring of her heavenly eye, 
ran ooil itui, 

. . .or that fair brow where bc«at7 keepi her etato... 

Througbout tk** world llie pralae... 

Hut fttnoe that Flra-ren muat only betbe mirror*... 

f'olor can gire her nothing thai i« new... 

Tell Uea liow much I aiJoro her." 
Soe Shokspere's Sonnet 21. This volame wati 
never reproduced as an independent book, and! 
his next puWieatinn is Id^'t Mirtor : Afumiral 
in QuntoTzains, I.^9i. It contains fifty-one sonnet*, ' 
and the dedication to (Sir) Anthony Cooke ranf;— 
" Voochvafet'i amao the«o rude, un^ioliihed lin^, 

Which tonp, dear friend, hare tlcpt in sahle nit;ht." 

There can be no doabt that Drayton ciroalated 
these in M.S. prior to pnblioation — *' long hav* ■ 
slept "—and prerioua attempts to aocnre a patnm J 
may have proved unsuccessful. This work, again, 
wiM never reproduced as a separate volume, but 
the sonnets were shifted, withdrawa, subetituted 
by others at his own caprioe. It next appears, 
but undated, (/ 1603) as Potms, Lyrick (tnd 
PastoTod, with forty-aeven sonopta only. In leOAi 
they are augmented to sixty-two; in I0L9 theft 
beeoino iiiity-tbree. 

WiUi this preface T propose to exhibit his Idea 
by meant of extracts (the nniubers and qnotationa 
are from the Uteet editions): — 

No. 3. "Thy beauty '■ booka" (to an ideal !). 

4. " liiiitht itar of beamjr." 

0. (No Merir<ti-.n.) 
" llow niB&y [-Kltry, foolUh, paintcl thiOiC^ 

That now in cowhet trouble every itrcet. 

Shall be TurgQlten, whum do poet lunfC". 

Cre ihey be well wmp'<) In their windlotr ibeell 

Where | to Ibao etornlty aUall giTo, 

* This allualon was evidently Inierted to pav« the 
way for bis next book. 



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When DoUiIng olte remttineth of these Anyt, 
And quHM borcari«r slinll Kff kImI tn lire 
Upon tlio ftlmi of tbj lupcrftuous praise : 
Vtrcioa and matronn, rouling tbc«c tiij Tbymea, 
SluJl bs K> mocb dcHgbuJ with thy itonr, 
TbBt tbey ihiill eri«Te the; lived not in tticse Ihnei, 
To bftre Meo tbee, their aex'a oaly glor; : 
So tboa abftlt fly ftbovn tlie vulKar thmng, 
Still to toTTiva in ny tminortal tony:." 
Compare this with Sbakspere's No. 17, vhiofa 
opens the in mtinuriam seriei, direlt upon bj 
Thorpe in hid lotruaiTe dedicatioc. 
13, '* O ivMlcit Sbadov, bow tli->u ncrro^t my turn I " 
19. "'Jlongit k11 the creatures in Cliia inAcIoua rouod... 
Your beauty if the hot and splenuroits Ban," 

Agwn, see Shakspere's No. 21: — 
" MaViTiB a couplemcnt of proud compare. 
With Bun and moon.'' 

No. 18. "To the celestial uamben" : this U 

AmoorS of the ediUoa 11)94:— 

" ... Three ninei there are... 
My tnuKi, my worthy, and my angel then 
Maka erery one of then three olnea a ten." 

See Shakspcre, No. 3B:— 
" Bo tboa the tenth Muse." 

It appears that Drayton^a earlier prodtietEoo, 
Idea: the Shq}h/!Td't Garland, of 1693,* was 
fashioned in tea eologues, but niiie only are known. 
U»«b one repr«flenta a mtiM, and tt ii a fair infer- 
ence that the tenth /and miBsing eclogue was 
addreraed to his own [deal as the tenth inase, but 
withdcawn from fear of ridtcnle. 

Sir John DaTi<>9, an Klinbethnn judge and wit, 
scored a strotii; point thereon, thus: — 

** Audnoioua paint«rt bare nine worthies nude, 
Hut poet IleciU4 [i. t., Drayton!.. . 
With title of Tenth worthy ilotn her Ude." 

Thia is Epijpram xxr., inscribed "In Deoinm." 
The Terses were no doubt rery generally circu- 
lated in London, bot proved too liocntious for the 
{tress, BO were publlBhed abroad soon Afiei M&r- 
ove'a death. Drayton, No. 20, proceeds: — 

" An eril epirit, your beauty haunts me still... 
To mc it speaks whether I sleep or wako... 
Thus am I still proroked to evtiry eril 
By this good, wicked spirit^ sweet angel devi!." 

Cf. Shakspere, 144, "Two lores I have." which 
had previously appeared in Passionate Pilgrim. 

SO, " Thou art my Vaeta." 

JSy. " I csl! on my dtrine Itlfa." 

41. "U . 8 to eternise thes 

r'mktes in my IWoef... 

i - -- .i>n andtbe KraVBi 

Knsuiiig aitiet yet my rliyities Hhkll cburiah." 
W. " Tfi show her beauties' sov'reign power." 
Amooi •Af of 1^1)4, ends: — 

• Entered at Statlonen' H«1L April 23. 15M. as ton 
eolotfoea. live days only a^t<^r tlie entry of Shakspete't 
Vnmt and Adorn*; they hmiled in couples. 

f Dmyton was torn in 1563 ; tleao lineji were written 
befure lw4| txtaU say thirty, and note Uic talk of " aged 
wrinkles.'* 




1 



" a heaven on earth, on earth no lieaven but thU." B 
£2. "Thot proud beauty which was my betraTtr." V 

So much for what Drayton deoUres to be only aa 
Idea evolved from bis imngiDaUon. It is tme Uufi 
in after years he tried to locate a prototypa, but 
it is clearly a mere after-thought and polpable o o^ 
tradiction. In 1694 Drayloa alao isaufd "^ 
Le'jcJid of Matilda, vrith three consecutive it 
in praise of Churchyard, Lodge, Daniel, and S! 
flpere. The last reference i.i to Lucrccs, publi 
in the same year and dedicated to Lord 
amptoa in a warm panegyric that saToon 
strongly of the devoted peisonal affeotitni so 
Bplouous in the Bonneta. Drayton's remarks nm 
thus;— 
"Lucrece... 

Lately revived. ..and here arrived... 

Shce u remembered." kc. 

In reproducing bis Matilda^ this staoza wat 
sequently omitted, although he retained tb« %> 
coinpuDjring landuliona of other poets. 

These two writers were also brotijjbt ir' 
ainn as dramatists in connexion with the ( 
V. KaUtaff episode; but it would not iiivolvu ^^r- 
ROttiU foelio^, and when Drayton's Klttjty oj PtttU 
was addressed to Henry Keynolds he wntei : — 
" Ue it said of thee, 

flhnkspere, thou badat u emooth a oomio win 

FittinK the sock, and in (by imtiiral hrmin 

Aa strong oanception nnd lu clear a rafre 

Aa any one that traiBo'd with the stage," 

It will be seen clearly that, — 

1. Drujton fits in with the refereooea to a pdl 
of Sonnet 21 who lauded an ideal beaitty. 

2. Also to the reference, in Sonnet 3B, 
" tenth muse." 

3. The omission of a comptimentAry all 
from the Ltijtnd of MnixUia indioaies irritabi 
or animosity. A. 

{J'ohieojilinMgA) 



MAGYAR F0LK-TAUB3. 

(Contxntml /rvtn p, 24.) 

I may now proceed to consider the 
Christianity on the talea in general, 
be seen, is very marked. Often si;... 
Christian ideas appear amidst the uiost ' 
notions, suggesting to one that the Etory-fansrl 
added it on the spur of the momimt, to try tol 
make bis story a little more suitable to the iimtL 
In other cases it looks as if the oamea of the <U 
gods bad simply been changed, ths 
given to the Deity beiug one that no 
would ever think of assii^aing Imn. Indf 
say there are Ti ' ' 

Christian ideas. talea «• 
product of paguu iiJt..iiL;i.i- i m. < 
A great deal vC the old life o i 
Th« following stories will servo o^ j 



.^} NOTES AND QUERIES. 



63 



Id " Sc«pbea tfae Iforderer^** ve ue told 
two rich fiuraers who ftrT&o|^d a mumge 
j.ir respectire cfaildreo, so u to keep 
i-'.j tof(eiher ; bat Ifae youog girl luted 
tuAD, wbo was Ter; fond of ht^r, nod 
ned bim op^a beiog threatra^ with 
rit&nco bj h«r fiith«r. When tho wed- 
moraing arrived, &od the p&ir stood before 
'altar, the bride took the weddiog-riDg aad 
Afa<d it on the floor before the prieaf, laying, 
e, Satao, take tbii hog, and if ever I bear a 
^ild to tbis auux take it too." In a moment the 
Bril aroBo, Boatcfaed the ring, aod diBappeored. 
I rolled on, a child was bora, and tbe father 
The mother, who b&d loot( ago repented of 
, wuh^ became troubled as her child grew 
the knew that ere long the devil would 
^for him. The lad, who was preparing for 
orders, notioed hii mother's eadaefs^ and 
> ume trouble found out the caose. Uarinf; 
Be tfaia he determined to go to hell at once, and 
ud the old eentleman io his den ; ao, arming 
himself with holy caoHleii. haly water, and in- 
tense, he set off on his journey. Oa the wny 
ka met Stephen the Murderer, a man who bad 
^bin 366 men, and who would have slain the Ud, 
B»«if 1m bad not discovered hU destination; for 
^k^ieo waa rery aniious to know what sort of a 
Hid thaj were preparing for him in the infernal 
Mglons, and so he made a bargain with the lad 
that if his life wa« spared he wsa to return and 
tell all about the bed in helL This beiog settled, 
the boy Mt out> and in due course arrived at the 
igatM of hell. Here he at once lighted his candle^ 
set fire to his incense, and sprinkled bis holy water 
profuielj. Soon a atrao^e hubbub arose, and 
iwarmi of devils came rushiog out, crying, '' What 
sort of an auittiil are you ) Be off, or we will leave 
the place for ever ! " Bat the lad went on with bis 
work, shoatlng out that he would follow them to 
the end of the world if they did not give up his 
OMlhef^t ring, eanoel the agreement then m:ide, and 
pfomiM him that fae should hare no further trouble 
m the matter. " We promise," cried tbe devils, 
holding Ibeir noses and quaking fur fear ; " we 
pronuae all, ouly don't oome near here." A whtsile 
was then blown, and fiends of all sizes, shapes, 
ud makes oame tumbling in, but none knew 
wberw the w?dding>ring was. Another bl.i&t of 
the whistle, and yel another, rousfd all hell; but 
the ring was not to be found. " Turn out every- 
body's pocketv," cried the devils, in their exdte- 
nttDt, for tbe student was not idle with his 
^ See., and thiol's were growing despentte. 
"Throw the rascal who 
•ok into Stephen tbo Mur- 
b«dj dnMa'.<;il the assembly. *' Wait a 
Date,'* criM a Ume devil wbo oawe limping up ; 



• KrLca xvtii. 



" I 'd rather produce three haadred wedding-ringi 
than go there." Tbe ring was than thrown over the 
wall and the agreement cancelled. The studeol 
withdrew in triampb,and qaiet reigned onoe mora 
in hell ( »n his way back tbe lad mot Stephen, 
and told him &U. " That must be a bed," quoth 
the murderer,* "if devils fear if; and the hero 
passed on. No sooner wu ha gone than Stephen 
thought ihst Che lad onght to make him happv 
as well as himself ; and so he followed him, and 
cried, " Stop ' Yon Ve arranged your own fata 
bett«c than mine." " What did yoii kill your first 
victim with?" inquired the lad. " Withaclnb,"waa 
tbe reply. The lad bade him f«tch it, snd Stephen 
brought a club msde of apple-tree wood, so worm* 
eaten that jou oould not plaoea pin point between 
the bolea. " Take that," said the tad, *' and plant 
it OD the top of yonder rook ; then go nnder the 
rock, whore you will find a spriug, fill your mouth 
with the water, go on your knees to the olnb and 
water it, praying earnestly all the while. This 
you must continue to do notil thu club bud, 
blossom, and bear fraitt When it don, and not 
till then, you arc free from the bad in hell.'' 

Stephen set to work forthwith, aod tbe lad went 
on hii way. TimeroUod on, and the whilom student 
became Pop?. In those days, according to an old 
custom, the Pope made a tour through the country, 
and it happened at his journey's end that he stopped 
near the very rock where the club had oven 
planted, and lo ! there grew a most beautiful apple- 
tree Ud«a with losoious fruit. Seeing the apples. 
His UoILneas Longed for some.and sent his servant 
to pluck them ; but as the servant drew near he 
heard a holluw voice that said, " No one is a'lowed 
to pluck this fruit save him who planted the tree." 
Terr or stricken, the man ran to His Holiness and 
told him whst had hsppeoed. Then tbe Pope 
remembered all, and wont to the apple-tree, where 
he cried, " Stephen the Murderer, where are 
you 1" An old dried-up skull rolled out and 
said, " Hero I am, your Eloliness ; all my limbs 
dropped off while I was carrying the water, and lie 
scattered around ; but if the Pope commands 
they will all onoe more be joined together," This 
the Pope did, and the scattered members stood in 
a heap. Then tbe servauta opened a lar^e rat 
hole, put the bones thoreio, the Pope said mass and 
gave the absolution, and nt ihal moment Stephen 
the Murderer was released from hi4 terrible bedia 
hell. J W. Henrt JoxEs. 

Yorke Ilouse, Skirbeck (joarier, Boitoa, 
\To bt continued.] 



• er. MsJey, Kaako ■ Slavtuie Fairy Talt*. 220. 

t Cf. Taniii.SuMr. B. Gould's CVn'ow Mf tAt, " The 
Mounuln »( Virwia,'' 

X Arsny trieo4 a ainiilarit; bvtwceu tliii tale and a 
Hindoo ti^D, i^iren in Bciifer's Panttchainutrtt, wbers a 
poor BriihmiD. as a reward for his long peoitence, bar 
his bones thtonn into the sacred wa(<rs of tbo OnnfMbj 



64 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 




BIBLIOGRAPHY OF CHAUCEK. 
(See 6u> 8. f Hi. 3gl ; ix. 138, HI, 301, 4K, ^W; x,3.) 
AVorkfl in illnstrntion of the iwet: — 
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Bcrtptiun the Works of Chaucer, with Critical^ 
Uiatorical. and Explaattary Notes, &c, Fol., 
Lonrfoo, 1736. 

WaiIoo, History of Eogliih Poctr)*, voT, ii. 

Lli!7. In Tegg'8 r«vued ediiioo. 3 toIs. 8ro., 
tidoD, 1840. 

Todd (]J. J.], IlluattatioDB of the Lirfi aod 
Writinga of Govpr nnd Chaucer. Svo., Londoo, 
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in BO AnglO'Sdxon Grammar. Bvo., Londuu, lfS32. 

Oesenius (P. G), De LiDgua Chaucf ri Oommeu- 

L&tionem Gramniuticaiiif (cripstt F. G. G. Hvo., 

BoDD, 1847. 

Gomonk (EI.), AnnlyseB «t Frflgtnonta, GcoCEroy 
Chaacer. 12iuo., Ports, 1S47- 

dasea (A. T.), De G. Cbaaoero Poeta Statuqae 
ante earn PoesU Anglicie. 8ro., Uelstngfora, 1&Z>1. 
lDr;e8(H.), A Lecture on Lhfl Genius of Chaucer. 
670., London, 1851. 

Markby (T.), The Life and WrllingB of Chaucer, 
a Lecture. 8rD.. London, 1B68. 

Saodras (G, G.)> l^tude &ur GwlTrey Chaucer 
Imttttteur de« Tronvoree, 8vo., Pdris, 1«5D. — 
" K. ."i; Q ." r.'" S. vii. 134. 

Brofme (Matthew), ;>itci((I., Chaucer's England, 
2 voli, 6to., London, 1SG9. 

BKok (B. ten), Chaucer Studien zar Gtuoliichte 

Rmncr Kntwicklung and xur ChroDoIr>eie seiner 

Sjbriflen. 8ro., Miioittor, 1870, Sio. UoBatahed. 

Fie.iy (J. G.), A Guide to Chaucer and Spenser. 

8ro., Gtoigow, 1873. 

Weymouth (R F.), On E»rly Eogliflh Pronan- 
olation, with CBpccutl reference to Chaucer. Hyo., 
London, 1B74, 

Ward (A. W.). Cbaocor. In John Morley'a 
" EoKliafa Men of Iie(t«r3." 6vo., li^mdon, 187;?. 

The fuUowinf; pullicfttion« of the Gbancer 
Bodety deal with Intigiiagaand kindred topics: — 
EUis on Ewly Enfr''6h Pronunciation. l&GS- 
1875. Four parta poblivhed. 

Kaaays on Chaucer, his Words and Worka. 
lBOS-75. Fonrpartir. 

Prataoet and Forewords to tho Parallel Texta, 
by FumiralL Ifl68-7I. 

Originals and Analyses of some of " The Tales." 
Ifl72-7C. In sereral partaL For tbcso the> reader 
IB referred to the oarefally compiled catalogue pub' 
iiabod by Messrs. Triibner & {jo. 

Ch "■-->■■ M .1 bis pluce in titemluroaro discusxed 
»" ■' ■?; works on tbe geufrBl subject of 

Eu; — 

!■ h WriUr«, Tol. ii. bk. ii. 4. 

*'' - f EogUah Litentun, toL i. 



i 



Shaw's Students' Manual, oh. !i. 

Spilding'a Enijlisb Literature, cb. t. 

Chambr^re'a Cyclopaedia of English Lit«iftti 
rol. i. p. 12. 

Mintu's l!haracteriBUca of Eogllah PoeUi. 
London, lft74, p. 1. 

Oreen'fl History of the Kngliah PeD[>Ie, d). T, 

Sharon Turner^ Hiatory of Kugluod, toL tW. 
ch. V. p. 32a 

Lowell's My Study Windowa. 3 ro., London, 
1871, n. 168. 

Pauli'a Pictures of Old England. Sro., Londoo, 
1861, p. 201. Translated from tlie Gennsn. 

Dc'shlcr'a Srlections from Chaucer. 8»ot, N] 
York, IH?, Introduction. 

Deflhlt-r'a Afternoons with tho Poets. 8" 
New Yorlt, 187:), p. 25. 

See also Campbell's Essay on Eogliali pes 
prefixed to bia "iipecimeua of British Twla.^'s 
LobdoD, 18-11, vol. i.; Coleridge's " Lectun 
vol. iii. p. 79 of Pickoring'a edition, 183tfj 
tbo "Dublin Afternoon Leotarea on Eog' 
Literature," Chaucer, by 0*Hagan, in seriea 
8to., Dublin, 1863. J. Mahkbll. 



" The TTHo'a DronoicAnT."— I hnv- 
become pouessed of a curious book, ' 
Tyro's Dictionary, Latin atul Enyli> . 
Mair. A.M., ci({hth edition, Edinborgh, printed i 
tho rnivoreity PrcKi, 181tl It contains n gr« 
number of obsolete wurda. I have counted mo 
thiiQ firty in the first ninety p.ngea. T do 
know the dale of the first edition of tho book, 
it is curious and interesting to find so manr ' 
now obsolete upparcntly in use at the < 
last century. 1 biiuI u few m a fir^t 
and shnll be very iittich obltgod to ;;[ 
readers for any reninrlot upon them, 1! 
ton word means that it is to be faui«^ lu i 
wijll'a Dictiom^t tenth edition, 1881. 

AccnwH, full of Irnwn or obofT. (Bnwit, bnui * th 
Rniut of corn, West. U.) 

Alula, lAtiitDt] or (iiir'A leather. <Tawcr. \\.) 

Annk itic Ih^ or Imiitlle of iDjrifaing. (buj^ Ura sar, 
North. II.) 

Arrn)uls,si>tall lanJ or giri (Knt). II. 

Art*. All *<trhut prMjit/. U. 

Amiiift, a liltiK linnol. « tKinytt. U. 

Rntillum, l ' ' ' V 

tiiccglontii ■, ■ :U. JI. 

C.-«'«ttia, u tek.iil^A. 
Cuikl'm, k itnruil or gutter, 

'' ' '■■ r.'ta, 11. 

(Sbonr-pT i 1 . 1 

irt. n cormc ■ . ■ ,tk 

■ T tnuii. U. 



Omiii . 

Clrcu*, u r ' 

fJi«ln. TV t*-' 

Oftvtilii, u ^tnii Ml- k:i^>, 

Utitollariiu, l/varinB a i- 



(MaAarn 



••ax JnLT 26, '84.7 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



65 



leoet, K khik or oomroon thor* r^*ewcr,*l>eTU), 11.) 



I Cortloo, to ' 
LfJofrlita, « i 

fCruft: 

I 



,r ,.,rJ nf.VawAwrl. 






' tree. 

ir. (Nortli. U,) 
:.r. H. 
cliKltcr. 

(r>«iioii, II.} 

I licctor. 11. 
..at. lUrmkc.XorUi. U.) 
Pitcvllft, % little wtckpr bukol, k /rui/. (Eut AucUk, 

n.i 

Kiirunculiu, u litlle thief, a b,U. (' H.. b.Io. 3.) 
rurfiirnnu*, full r.f bran or mii-/. (Horoff, II.) 
" "" toeu-. R iijy.(-riH-i-, (Deran, H.) 

I Imtiili'S. (/i/i„,af, 

";■-•!(.. iritered, H. 

;, (EuUrg«dgUnd*, U.) 
»iic. II. 

. H. 

Bi:1bTi«d, (ii tnii (H.), or tbroacliole. 

ftcuao. to , r, U, 

rteeH. H. 

'M), tbelinWcfftdoOT. 
•.t. lu:,. • .flauiL II. 

- Lorio*. to 1. ,..., (/Vrj;/?*. H^ " to rotigh- 

out a uMll i ilea Joiuon ukw tUc teim inatAjiltoiioulljr. "] 

F. W. Wkaver, 
UUioo Tkang*. KTeroreecli, lUlb. 
(To be ecnlinittd.) 

Kjii*djb»: Koaul— The foUowiog passage 
f/om Mr. A, H. Kvane'* appendix to Iho Avsh-al- 
luiit of Mr. Alfred H. Wattnue U wortli the alten- 
ttoa of the reulvn of " N. & Q." The notioo 
that lotno given iiKHJ^rn word must be dorired 
Crnm nn old one in .i fnr diffrrent; rittinlj of upei'cli, 
•dely becaate Lbe roeaniajjn of the two are the 
■Mitc, or Dearl/ to» nnd tlic'<r eouodd or appeuraoce 
wbi*o writteo hurc *oia«lbiDg Id commoD, is lo 
iridMpreAd, that it was not without a scuie of 
pleuure thnt I read irhat fuUowa ; — 

*' The attempt* ni»<l« to connect (bcae luigliKKM [the 
AustraltAfiJ witti llii* Aryan, S«tiiit)c, and ntb«r fumiliei. 
vitl nuc beir pcriou^ •]iicuifion. A feihfcie ipccLmon of 
tba M>rt of verlbJ rcitMi<bl&oc«fl adduced in su)i|)urt ot 
thoM the<jriei inuKt inffice. Th« native word Itr't'ljn, 
imfjl, dfKJtor, rr mtlivr primarily witard, |trie»t, h 
contpAmd with th^- Or^eii xitpoi'(tyi\; surgeon. Uat lliii 
tirrck word hrtn^ from tbv fwt^ j^^np (hautl) ami iftyov 
(wotk), it i< obvious thxt it cannot \ii otioipired witb 
hirtxtty* until thi* wnrd b« aim nhown to bo eintiUrljr 
•ORii">*^ Buflb a iWwtyfcTy wdild. indeed, tie itartltng, 
• ii ' ' ' ' ■ lifiw lonja relfttiotmlili) tt-twcen 

f • I 'A tliDaawid el7tnnIo|[ie« bnseil 

PT< ' 'i<o lawn regulaUng tbc growth 

of ftil ttftiGUlittd •l'«»^;«b. '~P. 602. 

It i», indeed, iu)|X)»«iMe to Iotd over the leaves of 
tha TocahaUry of xny laii(^a|;e, however remote 
from nnr own tori|;;ue, without oomioj; apOD acct- 
deaUl I "iich u those whioh h:ive over 

uil ov MJtilM tiiiinBtnititcd p^plo who 

I it it wiifl in noy way needful to 
uf Ungu.ij;n bpfore setting forth 
..,;,.^^ oi uiocovery ttnoog dioUoBuies. The 



book I hnve quokd above informs us, for example, 
Ifaal ill Malay cIoZh moaos a roud (p. 616). How 
ewy it vonid b« to argue from the fact thnt 
the roadii in the far BasI are nBiinlly in hollows — 
ootumonly, indeed, wltero poiuible, in the boltotni 
of v»lley« — that we hml hero the parent of our 
wonl dah, ft valley 1 Malay is an older tongue 
than Kngli:(h. iMlt^ therefore, once titeanl a road, 
but in travelling northward baa come to me*n not 
the road iUelf, but the place where the road runs. 
The iiheer ddoscdio of thii is manifest ; but, 
seriously, it ia quite possible to fill a whole number 
of "N. & Q." witb guesses that have been put 
forth gravel; that have not a bit more of conimon 
MDse to recoumend them. Atrov. 

Aristophaxks add Gou5nTNisv. — SomethioK 
rei^ like Mr. George's commuuiDtic theoriea is 
ridiculed by Aristophanee in the Ecduiaauwef 
IL 590-610. The female poIiticioxiB, diaguiaed in 
dothes stolen from tbetr hutibaods, with falsa 
heard'*, &c., bnve just held an eccleaia, and 
Prax-igorft, their leader, is rehitiog to her husband 
the measures ahe will brin)^ forward if she and 
her party are entrusted with the management of 
aOaini. The whole posa-ige is peculiarly apposite, 
but I will qaol« only a few lines: — 

K0ii'iui't»i' y«/i srdi^o? ^ijcrw \p^va.i irawwv 
KttK raiToiI f»jf Kai /t») To*' ^tXv irAovTeiv tqv 
ft-rii^ yttapycXv Tt>v /«r 7roA.X>Ji'| t<;» 8' tti-tt* jui/^ 

^' Ql*l5' IXKOkovOm' 

dky ct'U votijj KOiVuv Kaa-iv piOTOv kuI rourov 

Sfioiov. 5!Ml-fi, 

•n)v yyjv ir/>wrtoTtt iraiijma 
KOtvi)%' KUvTiav (tat rapyvpiov Kut raAA* uiri<r* 

cVtIi' tKcioTV- &I)7-y. 

To the huKbund'a question. 
ff<o« ori' 00T15 /«') K<Tn/Tot yrjv rj/iuv, dpyvptov 

Bl 
tta\ A(i/)ci*fois, a(/ta»'JJ irAourOf; 
the wife AUGwers that personal im well as real pro- 
perty will go to the common stock ((!0U2). And 
when, aa a logical result of those views, the bus* 
bond excluiuis,— 
ovKovv Ktti i-vv ovToi /taAAof jeAcBTOurr' off 

TauTo Tzaptint 
(with which c>^mpuo "La propri^t^, o'est le to1")i 
Praxngoni roplieti, — 
■sTpoTcpov y' wvtiip' ore Totm iko/iois Zu^ptainOa 

Tiiif irporipotmv. t3(iS-9. 

H. DaLEviiraNB. 

Cbiswick. 

A Plea roR Placb-Kauks. — Many interest 
themielvei la tbo derivation of placfrDaines, b«- 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[a»8.X.J(n.r20,*M. 



Ueviof; them to contain eridoDce (racial and 

hutorioil) wbicli is BometimeH more IruHtworthy 

than that of documeDts, The difficulty is not bo 

much to ^et derivations as to reject the snrarma of 

coDJectarea which infest every dintrict. There are 

tfaroDghoat the country numbers of men of leisure 

and cducfttion who miffbt do much towards !;«• 

tematizioK Ihe facts, stutemeDt«,aiid even stinnises 

00 such points, ami comp«riflona of evidence (docn- 

nientary and verbal) would fjraduaUy conduce to 

accuracy. One of the first poiols seems to be to 

record the names tbemselref, both as currently 

written and oa proDoaoced. The pronunciation 

would have to bo indicated on a uniform system, 

and it would be for eiperts to consider whether 

that adopted by the now dictionary is the best. 

W^e have on the tf-inch Ordnance Surver a great 

many pUce-namea recorded, but the numoers that 

hflTB escaped entry niuiit far exceed those that 

L-ltre in print. Names of fields, gtitefi, siUes, lanes, 

' pools, he, are almost of mora v:iliie than those of 

' larger places which hare been worn down by attri- 

tioiL If those interested in such things would get 

ntrrey BheetB of their districts and carefully note 

thereon (say in red) any nnrecorded names a? 

Qfuatly spelt, and underneath (say in blue) the 

current pronunciation, so as to make speech visible, 

a mass of evidence would gradually be formed 

from which oamulative inferences might be drawn. 

Ifotes OS to warces of information, &c, might be 

k appended to each survey sheet. Much that ia of 

TAiae paaiai away from us daily, and many are 

detemd from making a beginninf^ by a sense of 

the immensity of the question. If the above 

eketohy idea finds favour with any of yonr readers, 

it is to b« hoped that they will discuss it. 

W. M. C. 

The FcKsn of Bibds Aucibstlt Piumitted 

DUftiao LsHT. — The Ohorch historian Socrates 

informs ns (Hutaria BccU*uuticat lib. v. cap. 22) 

' that many persons in his day abstained during the 

£uta from all animal food except fish, while others 

I thought themselves at liberty to eat fowls also, 

t tiecaase brought into being on the same day of 

^ ereatioa as fish (Oenesia i. 213) and born of the 

^ same element, water. Other Others, auch as Basil, 

Ambrose, nod Thomas Aqitinns authorised, for 

the lame reaion, the eating of birdx. Is this the 

Kftson why eggs are still permitted 1 

"S. Eloi depuia sa promotion h rBplsoonst avait 
nnoaot ft la vioado; insu un Jour il ts perniflt da inanRflr 
|, voe volallle aveo un liota qui lul iUit iLirvenu. Ori-t;oire 
■de Tnur«rscont« nu« mftogeant h Ik tabli* da Cliilpoiic, 
•t n'ttiant point la vianJe noa plui, 1» roi lui UU ; 
'Msaitode es potaiCC kl Mlpntir vdim, in t'a (n\i Kvec <ia 
Uvold"-' ''r-'r-".- ; ,, , ' ibreO'ariciens 

it«nii! ' ira devolnille 

ttd'- ..- Iira4i4 i>'A\k*^ty, ffittoCr^ ^4 lit 

Vtt r Paxil, B15. voL'i. p. {J^tL 

bit the ^.oqncu of Aix-U-Gbap«Ue forbttde 



the nee of the flesh of birds In monafltcries, ezof^t 
during the fennta of Easter and Christnms. Yet 
in the life of Odo of Clugny one reads of a monk 
visiting his parents on a faA day partaking of 
chicken, and saying: — 

" Uiio volaille n'eet point da laobair; lei oTMrktix 
1e« pois»i>nB out £ti crii-s en m^mfl I«iuim et \U out ui 
ni<)me origins, oomrae renseicne notre btmDe."-J 
SchajM. Utagtt H Cerctnonia Jlitig\4UH» ei CivUm 4t$ 
Jitlyu, Loarain, 1834, p. 98. 

J. MaSK£U. 

Luke's Irov OaovM : Ooldsuitb'b " Tra- 
VBLLKR." — I have just fallen upon a aolutioa of a 
considerable difficulty in reganl to this Huogariaa 
rebel. All tho reader? of " N. & Cj." know that 
"Luke" is a blunder for George ; and thatOeorge 
Dozsa, the leader of the peasants* war in 1Q14, was 
put to death by being seated on an iron throne 
with a fire underneath it. While thus enthroned 
he was crowned with a crown of red hot iron, and 
all the flesh was torn from hid bones by hot iMnrers 
and thrown to his followers. In BoswelP ' 

iTo/iiuon, the rebel is called Zeck,aQd tho V- t 

IfiLnijarica is referred to. The fact in thi.i G«org« 
Bozsa was a peasant of 2eck, or Szekler, in Hun- 
gary. Had he been a noble hcwouMhave be«DoaUed 
George of Szekler; but being only a serf the bonoor 
preposition was omitted. In the Jils <" 
dinarittm HeyniHungaruz the rehellioo i 

to in these words,— "Hujusmodi liberlaltm yw^^^t 
eeditionem et tumultuarlum adversus nnivervuo, 
nobiltCatem, sub nomine crucJala;, ductu cujnidaa 
soelcrati Georgii Szekelii, uuurrcctioneni, amtaa- 
runt." This compilatioD was made in the rel] 
of Ladifllaus IV. by Vctboczi in the year of 
insurrection, 1S14. K. Cobrax BftKWca. 

Parallel Passaoss. — Perhapa Ibe foUoviflg 
will be interesting to your readers: — 
{1 ) *' L'Art est long <t I« Temps est court." 
" Loin del tfpullurts culubrea. 
Vers un cimltii^re i«i)li^, 
Mon c(uur, comme un tambour roiU, 
V» btttant des mart'lie* fmit-btee." 
Uftudoktie, La Flivrt du Mai : ht Oayam. 
Compare 

'* Art is long and Time is flccttng**' Ice., 
in Longfellow's Pialm of Life. 

<3) " Bsppy tlie mm who liii whoU time doth boosA 
WichuB the encloiurd uf hit Utile gruund,** 
Oowttiy'i VUudian's Old Jfa» ^ K«VM. 
Compare 

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lit liM OMrU JtrtfUtld." 

(S) **8tns*t&ioht'mTrai*(irtAa«k** 

Ooetbfl's n\Uttin Mmttt: Pkttmt^ 
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Ws ntiBt nq^Mt corr«4[<on'IonU it«<tlriaK inromiAtloa 
oo family raattcn of onty • aai, to »ffix their 

lumot Kiiil Aildrenos tn rl< m order tliftt the 



Oaba dkx. CoRDOif AT BuRoos.— Id the ooane 
of "tnhtfwiDp at UnrgOT I lately Tisited Ihe Citfa 
il«1 Cor>lon, the ancient residence of (he f&moua 
Cooslitble Velowo. It takua ita ordioAry appella- 
tion from ibe greut eorrUiicrt^ or knotted rope, 
vhioh u flcalpturod around and acrosi its principal 
fvfldtf nod which coeloses three };te&t escutcheons 
— one of the roynl arms of Giwtile and Laod, the 
others tbnae nf Velosco (Ohcquy of fifteen gu. and 
rair) nnd of Mendn^n qniirlering Fi^tieroa (Quar- 
terlj, 1 and 4, Per naltire gii. and ari;., in chief 
and base a bend vert, bordered or, within a chain 
io orlo of the second ; 2 and 3, Or, five fi>;-leaTes 
in saltire rert). The tinctures are not indicated, 
bat I have supplied ihem here. The frtiiJo-bfinka 
of Murrar ana O'Shca concur in dcclnrin^ thai 
the coriwere is the "cordon of the Teutonic 
Order." Since my retnm I hare referred to the 
original Handfiuok of Spain, by Ford, nnd, ao far 
M I can discover, it nmkcs no such auertion. In 
tbo ooane of my reading for a apeciiil purpose, 
mach of what bad been printed about the Tcnlonio 
Koigbts has Decesaorily come under my noLico; but 
I do not remember hiiTi'nf; seen any atntement 
vbich connects the eordclu'-rt with that order ; 
Ud, mor«OTer, I am pretty certain that VeUsco 
WW not a member of it. But I should be kIuI to 
learn bow tbia statement, erroneoui as I beliere it 
lo be, originated ; nnd what waa the real reason 
wfar so BtoguIiLr an adornment waa cbo«en by 
Velofloo for the fa^ule of hia oiaguiQceot abode. 

J. Woodward. 

AlontrcM. 

( * r:^™,^^,I do fiftvi^e iJe rAcademta Etpiipiole, in 
hi' '•■-nerai dt i'Etpagne tt Uu pQrtHyat,w>y» : 

*• . I-' U jiorte, ct en fonno do lyrnpBn, cat 

Wsi^lC u[i ^rand oonloa d« I'orflre Teutooiine," &c.J 

ipAHTOaHApH oa PasTAOHjiPi!.— It is said by 
\ that thin instninieot was invented by Chrioto- 
tt Scheiner in ICO.l^ and thin itatement is hy 
iome penoQS diipuled. It is addeU that Prof. 
WftUttG0 impTOTea upon it, and produced the eido- 
graph. Will some one Rire, throiiRh '* N. A Q.," 
the foct.t fully and the circumitancea of the inven- 
tion of the two instruments, and a. brief biography 
of both Sclieioer nnd Prof, Wallace f 

Marshall 0. WAaooMRD. 
ToleiK Otiio, r.8.A. 

rri.r..t,,,.i,.r H,i„i.,.-r .v„, Uni iTi 1£T6 st WoM. ncoT 
It. 1 Jul; IM. liX'.n.at NciM, in 

■ twenty firti year, thu order 
I,' m*tiy yoart PntfeHor of 
It, Orvu, aii>l Rome. From 
.t«4 10 .MkTo VtlMP, KoT. 12, 
I, Lit Jlvcotcry, Mf«u or eiglit months preriottsly. of 




blofik epoti on the nin. Forbidden by liu provincial, 
P^re Bre»^. to puMiiiti bU diacOTsrv, Ito commuTiioated 
the infonnHtton in thr-e letters to Velxcr. Tbeee irere 

Crinte*] (Aui^b<nir(;. I'JV^. in Ho.}, the author hidiitft 
ii iJentiiy bchiod the pieuJooyni. " Apellet i>cwL 
tnbalnm l«(cn*." G»liI>?o, to iThfJin the difCd^ery vrnn 
announced, «aid he haJ himxelf ohNrre'l t)ip ttpnta 
rightern monthi provt'^uity. HfUT tli'' clooo of liU life 
Sebeincr gave op puhlii: teechiiiK anil rvlired ti XetU, 
where he was rector, cnnfounr of the Archilulie ClinrteSi 
luid jirufcffnr of tnatbeiiiAtio* to the A'c-Hilulte ^tual* 
milian. ^InntnoU, in hi* I/ittain Ot» .'' "J, 

t. ii. p. yV2. »AT* tl">t t-Mieliter. in hli Pi-- ■■■■* 

An t>tlint<to.u. Ram., ItWI, 4li»., df««-fi t ■ ,n- 
■truction ari't ii»e« of the iMtniocmph. }lo ^••^i crtJite 
Sclieiner wilb the invention, and Myi it iliould ercure 
hi* immortality. Svo liihiioiktca .Srr>'/>(ont»t Soeittntts 
Jisu, Antwerp, 1043, p. 77» under " Chri«topboros."J 

BisnoFS ASD Beauds.— "For the first time 
within livinji memory, it is caiJ, a bishop of the 
Gbuxcb of EQ)(lanJ, sittioK in the Houiie of Lords 
as a spiritual peer, appear) vilh a patriarchal 
board. lie in the Ri^bl Rev. Dr. Ryic, Bishop 
nf Liverpool" So says the Pall M(iU Ooiuttt; 
but is not such n fact far beyond " livinK memory " ? 
Has any benrde<l prelate sab in the House nf Lords 
sinco loss, or even earlier? Este. 

WOMRK IV ACTEOK OK BOARD SHIPS OP TBR 

RuTAL Navt.— I>aniel Mucliae, in his "Cartoon 
of the Death of Nelson," has represented women 
ministering to tbo woanded sailors. Was it ever 
Ihe cualom for femnlee to be borne on the strength 
of ships* cnmpanirii, and even io be present at ship 
enga^menta ? If so, when did the castonis ceaiic I 
Any information thereon will much oblige. 

B. T. 

Jmsk Rausdek, a celebrated optician, son-in- 
law and Huccessor to the celebrated Dollond, waa 
son of Thomas Ramnden, of Skircotit, Halifax, 
innkeeper, baptised Nov. 3, ITSri. Uolroyd, in 
bis CoUf-ctinta Bradfortiiana (p. UI4), aiiya that 
he mentions (where I) his grand-uncle Abnitiani 
Sh.irp, wbo nsaialed the astronomer Fluniatced in 
6tting up the observatory at Greenwich, abont 
](t70. Although Holroyd gives many p.^rticulars 
about the Sharp family, to which Archbishop 
Sharp belonged, and with which the present 
Fnncia Sliarp Powell, formerly M.P. for Cam- 
bridge, is connected, I cannot find the link by 
which Ramsden in connected with tbo Shar|rH. 
P-an any of your readen tell me? In 1734 one 
Thomas Rqmsden married Abigail Plather, of 
NoKbowram, a township adjoining Horton, near 
Bradford, where the Sharps were located. Abra- 
ham Sharp was never marriod, and died 1745, 
aped ninety. Thomas Oux. 

nipperhotme, near Ball/ax. 

Old Londok. — Can yon inform me wbotbor the 
exact sites of the royal cockpits that stood in 
Park Street, St. James's Park, and in Tufton 
Street, Weatminator, can be identified ; and, 






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farther, what were the dates of their erection, nnd 
the dites nnd occfuioDi on which they were liLst 
nscd i Any references thereto and t^ the nnoicnt 
nport of cocking wilt greatly oblige. S. A. T. 

PousDS. — Can any reader of this periodical 
refer loe to a Hoarce of information a« to the re- 
pairing of pound)!, the name of the ofBoer in 
oharue of a pound, and how appointed t 

K. M. H. 

Oiun.— There ore in I>e Lincy two proverhi 
thiit iiUude to Dnvid, as follows : •' PInye d'abvril 
TAut le c^ttr do David," i. 03 ; " Rosio de tnay, 
fiiiiW de mura ct pliiio d'avrtl valent mieui que le 
chariot Vnvid" i. 7G. What ia to be understood 
by thi* chariot of Diirid 1 0. A. Wajid. 

Haventook Hill. 

LaTTKit t>p Berr. FaAtrKUx. — A sale catalogue 
of autognipb letters sold at Purls on Mtiy 18 
cnnuiins the following extract from a letter from 
Fruuklin:— 

"8::!. FraokliD (Benj.), Uluatro phy^icieo ftie\. Van 
d&* fondateura d<> U Kepahliijua An* Bt^c«-lJnia, nt mi 
17'«, iii'.rt en 171*0. ham. h L« Koy ; Li>n'lre8, U M»rt, 
174'^, 1 |> 4 ■■•-fol. Lvtlro *!«« |ilu» curi>?Qiei. II a hi 
Vin iiieiii'>ire war l« prochairi pK«ikgd df Veriii* lur Ic 
•oteil : it H(i|)roure le« (i-Mtoa Juliirnratioti clio'ui'*; la 
bate il'Hittliun, le ea|> Noril, et RturrHendnrit^ nu Hud tie !» 
ligiiu. .MftU MVfttit do •'ucoupor de» cioux. il cit obli^A 
d« Vftbatset- r A da trliui reftliu*; un Juif lui a antutruit 
1,600 Urre* ilerliDg et 1' oblige h recourir & I'aiiiatanco du 
rai." 

Ia this a Kenuine letter, or one of the Vraine^Lucas 
forgeriei f Estk. 

SociKTT Tsi.aHD3.— I ahuU be obliged to any 
one who will lell me what are the best books on 
the Society Islands KeoenUIy and Tahiti in p.irt)- 
cular. I AID opecially interested in the manners 
and customs of tho people. Akon. 

Sin Hooti AMD Ladt Trevamiov. — I was 

shown lh« other day by a friend two pnrlnilti 

suited (o be of thu iibove persona by Sir Joshtia 

Keyuoid* (circa 1770), Who can they fanve been? 

STErnsM S. Bftuwii. 

Dick Torpin's Ridk to Yobk. — Every one 
baa read or hrard the tnle of Dick Tnrptu'a ride 
to York ; but is it generally known that the same 
fent bud, at the time when Turpin wna only 
tbirt4^o yeiiTT! of n^e (he wna born in 171 1), been 
ftlrnlMitfd to OOP Nick», in the year " 1676 or 
thcrcahoiita " ? That aiich wna tho cfute apiwara 
from n pnawgc in Dofnp'it Tonr Mro' tht H'hoU 
Iihnd o/ Urttt BriVtin^ Lrindon, 1721, rol. i., 
lA-irt<r II, |f. 17. [n (his bo tny* tlutt NickK wits 
uinunied on a bsy njuro aod ^obb^d » jfenllt^nmn 
ou tJad's Hill ; ih.it he then mde to Gravcucnd, 
«Ni'd the ThauiM, rodo tkCttmn Kiaex, then to 
itbnd^e and Uuutingdon, and iirrivi<d at York 
eivepD 7 and b p.ji. ; ao that he vaa able to be 



at the Bowline Orecn and a^k the Lord Mayor of 
York the hour at ''a qnarier before or a quarter 
after eishU" Defoe adds that it was rep^^rted thai 
Kin^; (vharles II, had on tnterriew with Niaka, 
who " confe-iscd the truth to him privately, end 
tbiit tho king ^ve him tho name of Swift Nick." 

A^ £%. 

ATiiKTSir.— Artstotle'a works, oi translated and 
eommeoted upon by Arerroes, are aaid by Priestley 
to Live been n " great soaroe of modem atheiam nnd 
infidelity." Priestley ndmits that be cannot dis- 
cover it in the wrilin;;<t of Aristotle bimaelf. 
Arerroea adopted the creed of the Aahlari sect— 
that God, being the universal cuuse of cverythijig; 
is tho tmthor of all human uctLooa. But that ia 
not atheism. Where can I u)08t readily get aome 
tnsiijht into this mutter 7 U. A. WxKD. 

HKTanlock BHI, 

Ghildb Caii.DER3. — In his preface to Chil^ 
Baroid Byron observes: " The iippclla(i'>u Chdde, 
DsOhilde Waters. Ohilde ChiKletrf, &<^, ia u^od «8 
m^n consonant with the old Blnicliire of venLiflca- 
tion." ChiUU Waltri i«, of cunwe, the well*kanwD 
biillud. Cio nny reiwler of '• N. & Q." give me a 
reference lo ChUde Chtlders ? W. 

SuAKsnu.RK'a Plats, &c. — I am at present 
enc;nged on two small works in which many 
readers of " N. & Q." can assist me, and I know 
from previous experience that f shall not buve 10 
a»k in vain. The tir»t is a list, in chroni.d osteal 
order, of the first represent Ationi of Shakespeare's 
plays, the principal revivals of tho same, with 
dates, dramatU pcnontK, uud any interesting facta 
I may be able to gather, oopies of playbills, cri- 
ticisms, ftc; also the dates and places in Qtt' 
many, France, Ac., where Shakespeare's play* 
were first performed. The second, a history of 
Eogliah opera, list of composers, authors of 
iJlirelLi, where first produced, dates, dramntit 
pf.rtuncB, playbills, Ac. £uwaro K. VtvrAat. 

Itcronn C]ub. 

Latin Htmn, ''Puonatr OaitsTi MiuTaa." 
— This hymn oocura in Dr. New»n,.(,'- TJfmm 
Kocltna ai being ia the I^irisiiin I rbc 

YigilofAII Saint*. It acDcna, how^ itia 

nut to be found in the cditious of that Breviary 
published in 1736 and 174B. When did it fiial 
appear; and ia it poaaihie to trace ICe autbonhlpt 

C?Mr. 

A WtSK PRKCACTIOS. — t' '/« 

(5 Juillid) stiiU's that tho << utra 

King, of New Yi>rk, had, in the lust yeara of bU 
life, taken ninttulnr precaiilloivi in thr» h'^p^i of | 

funlonging his existence as loi 
eft l.<KK) dnllBm to his do' t 
thot tlm Irpiry iibuuld ^^ 

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T^jl:r. Ibet^ inrFi m sacu. iiacLx Tw 

OD ihi» frxti. Pete-n ■umc yicviii xe«f7i:.r- 
dent cui iruSe h. AV aa 137 of jt'i; ^rrrt- 
m-iTidtXilM fazuA nsut av:^^ u :o tii* l/f ::* 
John Aoitin's fiOMr ccber tbu liat iz>»«:.rj; 
referenoe to him ia JCc Miiri ft::^^^>Tk?±:T : 

A. MAcr':yr:_i. 

Wekel-baekot. — ^II Ilh bfC9 KAtcd— of vV?.r»f 
crroneoavly — that Pmck] wxt the xoT<en:or of the 
wheel- barrow. Where u this earioas uUuke 10 
be foand ? Ayox. 

Tbavslatiovs of Josefhts.— Are aay trans- 
lations of Joaepbni*i works more tmstworthy th^n 
Whiston's ? I shoald also like to know of any, if 
such exist, with a more adequate index. Is it known 
by whom the plan of the city of Jerusalem (with Tcry 
fnll and fancifal details, pablished in the edition 
of WhisUm^ Josephaa by Bohn, in 1804) wn« 
eomniled, and from what Knixoei T 

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in an oU IciIit L.Mt.loH y^A^ '•» •■ v. mmN •» »'»ll.'.»« 
wnt u|»; a iW|i*sU »«m*»''il«» »>»»* .Vilimnltj. \n Mi 
JftiucH'* r.irk, Wi»^ »llimnHnli'«l m* «•• *i» u*m\\ iltt' 

fiin>:))l in Mvtlo Titrk, <<Go. I ftiml l» ul Ih tin* 

yoiir, nntl iiimnim' tluU II u\\n\\\ l«i< llf (u^nlfi* 
i yenr, IHltt. l» llinmnitit UHrr I inol, " IIiMk \itti 

I* Tlili, 1 iirfniiiii", \* ll»i i>i*lli<>'ll<iH I'llotI l>» Mn|'<i 
Urimtlis, Vhn*:nt'ht of .Vriiv<)'*- (t'lmiiHtmi k lUH, innn, 
vol, II. 11, *ian, iM CiKNiii'A'j XftM / if.itif<i(^. 



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|»I>S.X.J0LTM,*84. 



not all bMn (^roaUy entertained with the despatch 
to my Lord I) — / U it not a witly thiDRf" I 
Bhould like to know to whnt despatch this refers, 
and Bbould be obliged to nny of yoar reAdern who 
could enlighten mo on the snhject. The answer 
to the latter qnerieo would throw a light oa the 
former. G- B, 

IkKCOitDS or Jbwisu Bibtiis.— Ciin any reader 
of '* N. & Q." kindly inform lue where the recorda 
of Jewidi births in the Itut ceatury are kept I 
Edward R. VyvrAJf. 

AmaoM OF QaoxATioira Wanted. — 
" Aored up to Uieir lip», 
Oontolled up to their obini." 

Josh L Sbadwell, 
" Dello on si bella rlsta, hallo 6 1' borrore." 

W. P. n. 8. 



HrpUrtf. 

PRINCE TITl. 
(C^S. ir. 389, 434, 494, 617.) 
The history of Prince Titi will ever remain a mib- 
ject of some interest, not on Us own intriasto merit, 
but from its beariof;; on the court history of the 
time, and the very curious critical disputntiooi to 
which it has fii^en rise. Frederick, Prince of 
Wales, was kept at Hanover from the time of his 
birth, in 1707. till the year 1727, when, on the 
acoenion of his father to the crown, new prospects 
were, of course, opened to the prince. Ho expressed 
a strong wish to marry his couBio, the Prinoeu of 
Prussia; but this did not suit the Tiew of bt^ 
father, who desired him to come at once to London, 
■where he arrircd on December 4, 1728. The 
prince soon made friends in England, and not by 
any means those bis father would bavo chosen for 
him, Feoble-mimleH, yet headstrong, fond of 
pleasure, and fully diiiposod to enjoy himself, he 
soon showed that ho lored "the ladies" and 
Rambling. He was permitted to do pretty much 
what he pleased ; but bis father was far from 
liberal to him io the matter of money. His friends 
sought to make him take on interest in politics, 
and to this he lent a willing ear ; bnt bo needed 
funds. One of his amonrs was a good deal talked 
about. The subject of this was Aone Vane, one of 
the maids of honour to the queen, a daughter of 
Iiord Barnard. His admiration for her was open 
and exceesivQ, and on June 4, 1733. i>bc gave birlb 
to a son at St. JamesV, who was christened Oora- 
wal) Fill Frederick Vane, and of this child the 
prtDM became exceedingly fond. Repeated rc- 
qnosta for more money and other circnmstances 
at last led to the natural comefjtiencen, and the 
kio!^ •J.'fltreil him to marry. Two members of the 
f^ ' lo the princf to propose that he 

■ !. Prinoeaa of Sixc-Ootba. The 

pnn-.p, v.!)-) n.iiij m fact, bat little power or choice 



in the matter, replied " Ibal ho could not but be 
extremely pleated with what«rer bis Majesty pro- 
posed " (PolHieal Stat^, March. 1730. p. SM). A 
message had, of coiirw, been pr«Tiour»ly sent 
Miss Viiiie, tolling her that she had bettrr 
abroad ; but she declined to do this, nod 
went lo Biith. Her little boy, as lo whoxc 
nity there woa, of cour«e, no cvidenci?, 
Feb. 20. 1736; thedied on March 27, 17;i6 I 
miin'i Magazitu, vol vi. pp. lliE, 168), 
pritioe married the Princess Augusta on April! 
u iu to b« obserred, however, that even lb«D 
kiut; m-ide no proper settlemeot on tlie nei 
married p^ir, but appc^ioted the queen regent, : 
on May S2 deported to HanoTer. The prince 
young, good-looking, grncioun, and hardly uted 1 
the king ; he was, therefore, of course, popull 
and many paid court to him, not because he 
loved or respected, so much as heeauso h« 
regarded as a political weapon to bo mod agUufc 
the king. Of conrse his amours were very Dotoriotn, 
but they did not in any way interfere with 
his popularity. Tbey produced ntucb talk 
not » little printing, and various names were gvf 
to the prince. Thus, io The Intriijuing Ctnirti^ 
(1732), in which "Snrello, a very avaritious 
old ludy of quality, and her granddaughter 
rlssa " figure, the hero in "Prince Learcbus, i 
to be enamoured with Vanetta." In most of the 
publications rc-Uting to Miss Vane, the hero 
" Prince Alexia '—such as 77^* Charing 
Medhy (1732), which contains a poetical' 
to Miss Vaneria, with a Goiabed pictun:^ 
lover Alexia,'" — Vanelia; or, (Ac Amown 
Oruit, }'I3i,—Alrxi$'> Paradii$, 1732, botll of 
which have engraved frontispieces, conlit'inuL* ivn- 
traits of the prince, — The Fair Ctr^ 
Stcrct HUtonj o/ tin Benuli/ul Van 
Amourt ^cith P. /l/u:u(1732),— and i 
grat, in eight scenes, with cogravingri i 
the drst plate showing— 

"Look how Alexii at a Oittance psepa. 
And his eyei fia'U upon ttie Virgin h«([t* "; 

whilst the loAt plule represents her dying : — 

"Her prutlia;; ton, mXm ! ii now no mart, 
Aod ibD exttires aiiiidit her om'roas TUnuiL'* 

In fact, during the four years preceding tbt prifl 
marriage there had been endless tales and i 
about bim under various names, the most i 
being " Prince Alexis." It was towarda | 

of the yenr 1735 that M. Paul de Tb^mfc ^ 

Gordounier, commonly called Saint • Hyaclniu" 
(IG84-I74fi), who had htcu residing some JmctJI 
Iiondon. and hod cm | pfo, aofinigsi < 

fhlnp'. in writing m: r'' — a rnnn oCj 



Histoire du Frinte Titi, A. 1 

chex la Veure Pinot| 1730, pp. m-t. n>» ^ 





NOTES AND QUE HIES. 



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bstiov " hean dnto Nov. 25, 173^, and the Irut liae 
■UUa that it i«f qm from '* L'liuprimerie do ta V«nT« 
rAaliis-du-MesoU, 1735." By tho lett«n on tlia 
Utlc^p«i;e, " A. U.,* tt was nnderstood to be n 
tDf^l ailfiftry, an<l it wtm t*eoemlIy beti^red that 
le of K fuiry tale some kind o( Rccrc-t 
Prince of Wile* waa to be fouad. 
A ti^ >r,<Mi, luvrefurc, excited a good desl of interest. 
It itm» at ooce reprial«d at Brauels and nt Am- 
ftUrddm, and shortly afterwards was trunBlaled 
into English, two editions being pnhlisbed at 
Loodoo— one by Ourll, in Febraary, 1736 {OtntU- 
tnan'g yfiiyiaine, vi. 99*), aod a second by Dodd, 
in the *anie monlh (Lo$idoH Magazine, r. 103). 
la ibe Utter cuse both of thase booln are entered 
sod are plac«d under the beading of "History, 
LifcSf &o." Theio were, therefore, it soeius, at 
leoat five editions piibliahed id 173G ; and frotn n 
note in the London MagazxM for Deiiember, 
n. 701, Iberc appears then to hsre been puhliNbed 
" Tki MtmoifA ami Uitlor^ o/ Prinee Titi, port ii., 
•old by A. Oo'ld, price "is.'' It is pliiin, Lheo, that 
t)ie book wa« prinlrd la 1735, tbnt it excited iniich 
intvrett at tlio titno, lliaL it w.-ui ooj^erly read aa n 
piece of oonrt iicandal, that its perusul wm very 
diiappoinlinif, uod that it was soon wholly for- 
gotten nod laid aside an of no interest or Taluc. 
iDlerfAt in it wa*, howerer, revived by a note in 
iJr, JoUoson's diary of bis journey to Pnris in 
1775 with the Thralea, lie siiys (BoflwcU's Lift of 
Johnjt/>n, 171)1, i. 603): ** October 14. At D['Ar- 
'I look<rd into the book^ in the lady's 
i, iu conteiupl, showed (hem to Mr. T. — 
i(f i iti : flihi lift M'm, and other book-i." In 
]S3t a new edi'.iyn of tioswcll^d bio(;nphy of John- 
1 SOD wan brought tut by J. W. Croker, io which, in 
I nfvreooe to this p.ir»]jmph, be says : — 

frfv._ ;/,,,„,., ,/ I'r.-^r^ T'ti wns Kuil to be theanto- 
|bki>^i •■-. Prince of tValoi, but wai pro- 

[Wtir . I, Ins iccrctary." 

' Cpoa itn», in bis review, MocniiUy says : — 

"Amorw :.!.»ii'l n-i- *ri.i Derer poDfied......Tbe bil- 

Itiry at wl" r>d wm a verjr pr-iper com- 

tualun tp -r Fef», s r«try tale about 

foo4 Trtnc iiu i.mI imi^iity Princs VioUnt; Mr. 
CrokcTttay finJ U tn tbo Moifa^'n da Enf^Ha," 

8oibe b»^ ' ' i the reTiewerscnmmeoced.and 

! il led lo :' nf ''inkshed." If Croker was, 

h) the 111- p r-< uiji-, mistaken as to the precise 

' tialore of the ilntonj i>f Frivcs Titi, it i^ certain 
iii.f \r i,...i,l.,v I*,-, ■,!.., in the wrno);. His chief 
Lile oD Croker, and it is 
I :; : : i n the trouble to read the 

I little ToiuTue in nuestion. If be hid, he could 
sever Imri* ^itrl «lnt he did about the "oau;>hty 

' }\\r ■■■ is no such character in 

tbr or form. "SI. de Suiot- 

11)^ .quainted vrith all ibe scandal 

of I ', and it is itupossibld to read 

thi/jMfotr« <iu < r>n«< Titi without a coavictloo 



that it was intcaded, in the first instance, as a 
satire upon George II. and bis court. The four 
chief charact«n at the opeuiog are King Gin(;u(*t, 
mean, ettnuy, and bating his sou ; Queen Tripnas 
hii wif"5, haughty, very fond of money, and ab 
hating her bod ; Prince Titi, a ^ood, kind-liearted, 
ulf'ible prinoe, very uuworthily treated by hia 
parents, but Rtill ever true and loyal — bnndsomo 
and brave, and very unjustly kept out of the ia- 
oooie due to blm «s elJeat son of the kio); ; and, 
lastly, a seoood son, Prince Triptillon, whom both 
parenta made much of, and would, if they could, 
bare made heir to the crown. It is impossible not 
to recognize in thew four George II., Queen C^iro- 
line, Frederick, Prince of Wales, and the younftj 
Duke of (Juraherbnd. As we proi;refli in the sCoryiJ 
however, which is u curious combloatioD of amator 
nonsense and fairy impossibilities, the hiatorica 
element fades away entirely. Towards the cndf i 
when Prince Titi, huvlo^ fallen in love with %\ 
charming Mi»s Bibi, and tho goorl fairy Biamantiofl 
having given the pair power to assume any form 
they please, thoy retire together to a forest and 
become birdn, and in the spring the prince wants 
to do M other birds do, aud proposes to build a 
nest, aud Bibi, who has promised not to mvttf \ 
him till tho king dies, says, ** Mon cber Prince, na 
pondons point, oe poodoas point!'*— Ibe whole 
thing becomes almost too stupid to laugh at. 

It is now necessary to draw attention to James 
Ralph (uf Philadelphia ?), the friend of Franklin, hia- 
toriiin, dramatist, political writer, willing to do any- 
thing for money, the f;iithfal servant of DubbDoding-j 
ton and Lord Bute, and for many years employed j 
in various minor duties by the Prince of Walea, j 
Of him it has been said, " He wroto the history of 
Prince TitL" Oa the death of George IL, and ua 
the request of Pclbam, George III. granted bini a 
pension of COOi. a year (Davies's Life of Garrich^ 
17H1), i. 239); bat he did not live long to enjoy it, 
for he died at his hou^e at Chiswick in January, 
1762 (Fanlkoer's Brentford, EiUr\gt <^nd Chitwick, 
p. 348), leavmg an only daughter, aud on bis death- 
bed telling bis executor. Dr. Kuse, that he would 
God nn ample provision for her in a certain little 
box. This box, it is said, contained papers in the 
handwriting of the Inte Prince of Wales and Lord 
Bute, which were inscribel "The History of 
Prince Titus," It U said that Dr. Rose Dresented 
these papers to Lord Bute, that the King was 
much pleased, and at once conferred a pensinu of 
1501. a year on Mies Ralph, who, however, died 
within a month, and that Dr. Rose also rMxiived 
BubatAnliiU marks of favour; after which Dr. Rosa 
appeared to have lieen more Affluent in his circum- 1 
stances, and would not subaef^uently nay anything 
about the nuitler. This statement is to be found iu 
full in the Ginlleman'* Magazine for May, 1800, 
p. 422, and in Nichols's li/«rary jlnecdolM, vol. ix. 
p. 691. Iu truth has been denied, on the authority 



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of Dr. Rome's dcsccDdnntii, in FaalkDcr's Brtntffrrd^ 
&Q.; buC the ftrideoc^ Df^Aiaat it& truth, after (be 
sUtement that Dr Ko^e wished to forget it and 
would DOt spenk about it, is by no rnwns oonclu- 
sWe. 

There were, it would noora, two perfpclly distinct 
histories — the ffittoirt Hu Prinee Ttti, published 
by Sftint-Hyncinthe in 1736, and & MS. history 
of Prince Titus, with which Ralph wm in notne 
Wfty conoected. It ix powilble thut the Paris book 
wua printed from a copy prepared by Balph, nnd 
dcaigned to cover and conceal the rem MS. , 
which was ccrttiinly not intended for publicAtina; 
soruelhtnt; after the fashion of the Scriblerus Club, 
who, having printed a ieven aatire on Steele in 
the form of n letter from Dr. Tripe, which they 
Bubsequently refp-eited, published a leoond edition 
of A Lttitr from Dr. Irtpe, which was, in fact, a 
mild medical quiz upon Dr. Woodward, instead of 
the former bitter attack on Steele ! The MS. of 
the Prince and Lord Bute must have been a severe 
libel on the kinf;, and ha publication might have 
been ulmoHt tream>nnus. Henco it was clearly 
DccesBtry to suppress it, and probably Ralph iva.i 
employed to get the pithless Huioire publiehcd. 
AiuoutfHt the few ooteworlby mutters in this same 
little book in the story of the faithful pafje L'Evuille, 
who, by tiid of the fairy, gets to know all that 
passes in the royal councils, anil keeps the prince 
well advised of every thing. It is said (p. 87J that 
the page made a journal of all these matten, but 
that as he wrote in cipher no one else could read 
it without his aid. This ia a broad hint that there 
was in MS. a record of important facts relating to 
the court history of 1727-35. It may be taken for 
granted that these MSS. were sooner or later rle- 
tttroyed. Walpole tdU na {Mtmoin^ vol. L p. 67) 
that when the prince died, *'tho princesa burnt, or 
■aid abe burnt, all Ins pnpcrs." It is probable thut 
Rulph vii-1 in some wny instrumental in the print- 
of the HiitoirtUx 1730, and also that he bid papers 
and knowledjje worth buying up. If that was so, 
it is certain that he knew their value, aud thut he 
gob it; but it is also ijiiite pouible that having 
parted with the original MS. he neveHheleas kept 
a copy, which, after his death, was "found," and 
which Lord Bute might bo well p!i'a£ed to aecure. 
I have nevi'r seen Curll'* English edition. It 
would he desirable to ascertain the total numWr 
of editioDv, to compare them, and, nbove nil, know 
soinetblag about the second part, laid to have been 
printed. It is probable thut when Dr. JbhnHoo 
smilMl with contempt at neeing the fiUtoirt in 
Madiinie D'ArgeDion's boudoir, he did so becanw 
he knew the real nature of the book— that^ pre- 
tending to be an biHtnrical ulicgory, it hud, in 
tntlb. tii) history in it, whiliit ai ji furv f;d.^ It 
^ f iw par; in a word, it 

cr ,r tho other. The aui 

could havo littlo rwpecl for Ibe author oi Prmu 




THi, When writing abont Ralph it la 
not to remember his enmity to Pope. Hia enera 
name seems to recall Pope's lines in the Ihmciai, 
bk. iii. II. lfi5-6;— 

" Stleuce, ye Wolves ! while Ralph to Cfnlhla bMrb 
And mskes ni^ht liideotu. Aoai* er bnn, ye ilwts t ' 
and to wish that we had a fuller aeoount of him, 
both biographical and bibliographical, than we 
have. Edward Sollt. 



H 



AuTHOK OF Utun Wawted (6* S. \x. 6(W).— 
The hymn, " Spirit of mercy, troth and i..i-.- " rra* 
formerly attributed to "Rev. It. W. K 
aa it is in tho work of Rev. Lonts C 
on ffymiu, Andtnt and Modtm^ p. lot. i 
1867 {eorrigmda, " R. W." dele). This aUn 
of authonbip is adopted by the preaonl Do-;; ■ i 
Winchester, who is, apparently, citing 5Ir. U .^ 
from p. 164, in his notes on llymna for th^j 
the Unitersity of Oxford, No. xlvii., pp. ( 
But Mr. Biggs, in a later work, EngltMh 
olof;i/, reprinUd from Ihs MmiMy Paeketf] 
Lend., 1873, obserrca that it "i? -^ ■ -- 
suppoaed, by the Rev. R. W. i 
older, being first found in F" 
And BO the Rev. E. U. Di/ 
and enlarged edition of tli 
1870, in the " Index of First Lino*," haa, •' Ana 
{1775)," which I presume to be the dat« of 
publication of the Foundling Oymnt, aad of 
Qrat known occurrence of the hymn. 

Ed. Maubbill 

This is the only bymo^ I think, in the aoaot 
Hymns, Aneitnt atul Modem without tho autfa 
name, but it ia said to be *' from Fonndltii 
Hospital Collection, a.d. 1774." G. I*. PJ 

P.3.— Id Jlvtnnt, AncUtU owi Modfr%t\ 
eilited by Mr, Biggs, the auUwnhip ia 
to " Rev. K W. Kyle, 1843." 

StR Jons SnoaTER (ti**" S. ix. BC©).— Sir Jfl 
Shorter, Lord Mayor of London, wna the Hdi 
son of John Shorter, of Staines, by his wife Buaan. 

daughter of Richard *' Forbia al'a Forebank 

Scnn, oo. Surrey " (probably Send). He was boRt 

in 1G25, lived at Southwark, mnrncd Iia" 

daughter of John Birkelt, "ofC 

dale, Oumb." (probably C^ftatll^^ 

and was captain of tho Traiiud IJ ind?'. 11* 

a son John Shorter, of Byl>n)v>k, in Krnt» 

was bom in IGCO, married Elir ' ' 

Sir KraMuui Philips. Bait,, Md 

sons and two dnugbtera: John S 

Erasmus Shorter, Arthur >'■ 

Shorter^ wbri married Sir Rob' ' 

auil was uiothiT of Honico ^ 

lotto Shorter, who rriiiiriol Vr. 

way, Lord tT<»nv 

Hertford. Th.' 

ruUted lo tho KUis wcrtupuudeaco: - 



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NOTES AND QTIERTES. 



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**8ir John Shorter, tbe prewot f»rd Mkjor, li Terr 
Kvltl) n <'>ii fiff liii bono, Qniter "Sewgnte, «• faa wu 
•,tL- I HiLTtboloin^w P^ir. The City CuiUiiti 

^U «^' •■'-it»V i»l»rmT« tm'lep y^wRitW whi'n tlio 

. Al . iiii ii(n« the Lord 

started ftt th» 
loT .1 wu nachoJ &.> 

T'On Tuee«S»y Iiwt diert the Ix>n] M«3ror. Sir John 
■r ; tb« «>ocjpif'n of Hm itUtcrniier wns liiq ftill 
Mewf^te. wlncli briiMvd liim a little, andputliim 
!• rever." — X^vtUr of Sept. 6, 1<;9S. 

COKSTAHCB RUSSKLL. 

8«»Stewfie14 P*rk, Bcmdinr. 

llDfonnatioa aboat liim, his |iareDta(;e« hU wife, 

>, and bia granilchilHreD, will l>« found id Le 

J*£dign*t of Knightt (EJarleian Society), 

M-2. W. P. CoCRTMRr. 

, Qneea Asn'i Omto. 

"iw^n rMfer«nc« to the LittU LotuLm Dindory 
will be fMD that Sir Joha Shorter was 
^ in Baolaid?. 

F. O. HiLTox Phici. 

FtrasET Saiwt (e"* S. ix. 509).— What is Ihe 

aihnriljr for the ituteiseat llmt St. Ftiney waa jio 

•al with ** ■ noma sigDifieant of tbe virtnea 

riih be wna eodowed " I Bade doe« not 

3D tbU io bi« KccouDt of him (H, if.^tii. 

Dor \» it in RibadeneirsL But tiie account 

by (bis l:ut bu q seDteaoe from wbtch the 

M^Dif to bo a possible mistransliitioa. li 

ihitt "Dieu meetuo luy nonimoit les Tortus 

il Be pUiaoit daTaD(«f£a " (t. i. p. 140 D). 

bat a gw* £[>• Mar9BAI,u 

[^toTEMUM (e* a ix. 419. 49J).— Has not much 

on this point h«eD based on plaoe-OAuies 

>Di»iniDg ibe sjrihLbte ing, which has be«n tnp- 

|^»1 to represent tbe collectiri! nniue of a tribe 1 

I^W il does not do so in all caies seems tolerably 

v. TynioKbam is on tbo Tyne ; Cotdioghuiu, 

'e» ia Uibs Coludi. In Swedish, I aui told, 

a meadow, which may account for much. 

Trlab, iti^BAtrait, narrow, close, ooofined. 

Dttaio soIuLion certainly seems more probable 

a C-eUic ; bat what light can be thrown on 

keitfaing? W. M. 0. 

DkLiJfccas (Laa !lbs) (6** 3. ix. 448).— Ac- 
ir> T.iw. irtin'iite {Grand Diet O^og., Sec), 
fiki' ti:UnM of the 8ci!Iy Iilca were 

iki B. S. CiiAR:focK. 

rtimtoOnaffnAw (fl*S, ix 3R7,47a; X. 17).— I 
M I in my printeil 

yenbucA^ from 
T" . 1' "nt; liiiiit v'thitiie, printed 

* ■ 1701," On ibc tit.lL'-pd}{0 is 

"' in 1 Funff I Anjesiiud aber, 

JJ] vrer Verbesserung I in | Seobs 

^ cinem | Anhaug, &c. The 



whole Tolmne is divided into these Theilen. 
pnj^ contains two dtrisiooi, each diTiston beinf{' 
nambered ^epsrately, with tbe nnrabcr of the 
Thoil and the namb«r of the division, except in 
the lint Theil, where ihe fii;ur«-pI.nceof the Tboil is 
left bUnk. Thu3, my firat reference, for Chonlzin, 
is 1. (Theil) and 38 for tbe division, the lowefl 
half of the page beinK oocnpied by 39. There U 
no '* ToL i. p. 3B/' nor any Roman numerals any- 
where. D. P. 
Stunrt'i Lodge, Malvern Wellt. 

OOARLKS II. A»D A GrIEK PoRT (fl" S. il. 

607). — A query with reference to Ainsworth's Old 
lit. Paul't, bk. iii. ch. iv., appeared io " N. & Q." 
respecting Constnottne Ubodocanakis from Mr. 
CuAaLU SoTttERAN (4"> S. X. £89). There w.-i8 
a reply by Mr. HAnataott AiwawoRTn, in which 
mention was made of bis " residence near the 
Three KinuH Inn, Soutbnmpton Buitdiugs"(p.359);j 
JinJ 4»., writing from the Carlton Club, stated hi»' 
life was recently publiihcd at Atbuna (p. 45H). 
The portrait and L\fe and H'ritingt of Cotutjtnline 
Rhodotanakia are referred to (0^ 8. v. 147) by 
P. K. A.; and his portrait (p. 296) by T. P. This 
is not an answer to tbe query, but may be of 
interest. £d. Marsuall. 

Sir Robert Aaron (6* S. ix, 447. 513).— Sir 
Robert Aston and Sir Robert dc A!>sbelon are two 
diMinct poraonagos. The formf>r bcloDged to thai 
family of Astons of Tixball, Staffordshire (Ciimden, 1 
Brit, in Com.Staf), and succeeded his futber, Uirj 
Roger, to tbe Alton estates S6 Hen. VI., 14-10. 
He was Hii^b Sheriff of Staffordshire anno 
31 Hen. VI. The Utter belongs, ns FIbrhkntudds 
remarks, to tbo A&ahetooa of liever, Lanca- 
shire. I would further add tbjit Sir Robert d*l 
Assheton, beside beiof; one of the executors oC 
Rdwurd III., also coiitinue<l in favour in tbe auo*1 
ceediog reign, and in 4 Rio. If. waa Warden of ' 
tbe Cinque Ports (Cotton's Ktcords, p. 1B7). 

V. B. RttOSTONK. 
Woodbridgo, 

The place of Sir Robert do Aslitoo's burial will, 
most probiibly, bo found in Collioson'a HxnioTy of 
Somenetthire (fee i. 18. 26 ; and iii. 50, 13i), 445). 
He wiu the only son nf Sir Rjbcrb de Asaheton, 
Cbr, who dicil in 1367 (/m^. j? m. 41 Edw. IIL 
second Noa. SO), by his first wife, Eliubeth, eldest 
dauithter and coheir of Ralph de Goi^ea, 8if ' 
Robert, tbe son, died *.p. in 1384, boldmg tbd 
manon of Litton, PoreattAe, Ous«icb-3t.- Michael, 
and Hradpnle, Doraet ; the manor and hundred of 
Pulteney-l/»rly, and the manors of Knolle, Cberle- 
lon.Ludvford by SnnierLon, and Fodyngton, Somer- 
set {Inq. ;Am. 7 Ric, II. No. 6). He morriol , 
Pbilippit, sinter and coheir of John, Lord TalboU : 
of Kicard'fl Castle, co. Hereford, by whom be bad | 
no bsuc. Hia widow remained, in 1385, the old 



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ie» B. Z. JtJLX ^, *3*. 



w&rrtor Sir Matthew CrQurnay, Clir., and upon liia 
death s.p, in AuKUst, 1400, ahe married, thirdly, 
Sir John Tiptoft, Knt. (sum mooed, an a bamn, to 
Parliament, 20 Hon. VI.). SUo died t.p. May 3, 
1U7 ilnq. p.m. 5 lien. V., No. 10). 

B. W. UltEBSyiELD. 

SoutliamptoD. 

According to Balnes he wob buried id tho church 
within Dover Castle {Hittorif of Lancashire, ii. 
03fl). WlLHAK E. A. Axow. 

Uigbor BroogbtoD, Maacbester. 

Boon Datb (e*" S. iii. 440; iv. 13, 55, 3r.8, 
545; T. 37; ix. 433, 517). — Bocni are in Lincnln- 
cbire highway rat«i for Kpitiriag roids. Tho 
surveyor is a boon-rrKUter, and a highway cart ia 
nhooiiW'iiH. Brochet makes ahonner derive dis- 
tinctly from (oil, others say borne, and I think 
bond has to do with it by c!oae kinship, in the 
senae of 6oon blade or companion; no doubt bon 
is the root, ah it is of bonny. C. A. Wakd. 

UiTcrBtoek Hill. 

Waltonia!! QpKfciKS (6" S, ix. 447, 512).— 
Thi Life uf Walton, " printed for private circuht- 
lion," is merely a reissue, under false pretences, of 
Zouch'i* Life, first published in 1792, 4to., and re- 
produced more than once in the interim. My 
copy of it bad a good tinted portrait of Tzaac 
Walton for frontispiece. T. WtSTWooD. 

"Patkt jakda cor kaqis" (6** 8. x. 27). — 
I believe that there was, or is, an instance of thta 
iDaoription over the doorway of Bishop's Court, at 
Sowton, near Exeter, one of the ancient houses of ' 
the bishops of Exeter, and now the reBJdence of 
Mr. Garrett, and that it ia attributed to Bishop 
Grandtaon, who filled the see from 1329 to 1370. 
The janua, however, preceded the vatet. It ia 
probably mentioned in Dr. George Oliver's Livti 
oftlu Bishopt of Better, title '• GraDdison," but I 
have not the work to refer to. 

WiNSLOW JOKBB. 

Jobation (6* S. ix. 489).— Wedgwood saya that 
to jo6e at the UDirersity ia to reprimand. In 
Halliwell's Did. we learn that jo& is a Cambridge- 
ahire word for to scold, reprove. It also means to 
hit or peck. Job's frienda rather reproached the 
patriarch than scolded him as auperiore. I think 
we mi^bt almost as well say that jobbery was 
•iiuilurly derived. C. A. Wabo. 

Havvretock Hill. 

I suspect this should be written jawbaium. It 
il 80 pronounced in Yorkshire, where it usually 
means a soolding. Compare the vulgar verb to 
jaw- R. M. M., Jun. 

I have always understood thia word to bo apelt 
javAationj as a slang equivalent for a sound scold- 
ing. Of the same clasa hIsu are such slang ex- 
pressions 08 these, "Don't jaw me!" "What are 



youjumnjpaboat?"— oU referring to the same kind 
of noisy talk. Oborqc Kavbn. 

Portrait or St. Jgrouk (6** S. x. 7). — Tho | 
following is from Jameson's S<\<:nd nnd Lftjmdnrff 
AH, vol. i. :— 

" Kepr«>Bent*tion8 of 8t. Jerome, In pictarof, pnat«, 
nnd sculpture, are *o namoroui that it were in vEin to 
attempt to give «ny detailed account of tbem, CTeti of 
tlie most reiuurk%ljlo. All, howcTer, may bo incluiled 
under the fullowing cliutficatiim, and, according to Iba 
deicriptioni given, m^y b« ouiily i-e cognized. 

" The devotional lulhjecta and tingle fifi'ii^* represent 
St. Jerome in one of tiis three frreat cbaractcrt. 1. Ai 
patron Saint and Doctor of the Cburcb. 2. At rraiiitator 
and Comnaeatator of ScriptureL 3. Am Pent tent. As 
Doctor of tha Church and teacher bo entera into every 
•ehpme of decoration, and fliids a niaco in all tacred 
buildioga. Ai Saint and Penitent ho h cliii-fljr to be 
found in the CnnTcnt« and Churches of the Jeronymites, 
who claim him «• their Patriarch. 

" In fonie of the old Venetian picturen, imtfad of 

the ofBcluI robes of a cardinal tic is habited in li^otc 
ample red drapery, part of which is thrown orcr bii 
bead. 

" When 8t. Jerome U re{ireHnt«<l in biit second great 
character, as tho trauilalor of the Hcripiures, ha U 
uiuallj (lented In a cbtc or in a coU, tunted in readin|{ or 
in writing ; he wean a looie rube thrown over hit waited 
form, ami either be Icroki down intent on bU hooir, or he 
[oak* up as if awaitioK heavenly iuipiration ; eomettmos 
an anKcl Is dictating to him. 

" Verv calobrateil ia an enipnTlng of this fiiibJecC by 
Alfred blirer. Tlie scene ii ibe interior uf a cell al 
Qctbilcbam ; two win<iowi on the left pour acrou the 
])ictnro a stream of Bunibine, which ii renresented with 
wonderful effect. 8t. Jerome is seen in tno bnck^rnund, 
»«>itcd at a detk, moit latently writing his traniUtiuii of 
ilio Scriptures; In front the Hon is cr>3Uobing, and n fox 
if. seen asleep. Theae two animals are mere emblems— 
the one of the couro^ and rigilnnoe, the other of the 
wUdom or acutenesi of the saint. The Gxecutii<n of this 
print h a miracle nf art, and it is very rare. Tlicre is 
an ezquiaitn little picture by Eliheimer copicil ffDin it, 
and uf the same sis?, at Hampton Court. I need hardly 
ohionre tbat hero the rosary and the pot of holy witter 
are anachrotiisnis, as wcU as (bo cardinal's haL By 
Albert Dtirer we bare also St. Jerome writing In a 
cavern, nn<J 8t. Jerome reading in bis cell ; both wooJ- 
cutB. The penitent St. Jerome seems to bavo been 
adopted throuj{hnut the Christian Church a« the op< 
proved symbol of Chriitian penitence, mlf-denial, ari>( 
Klf-abssetnent. In the treatment it has Ixen infinitely 
varied. The scene is a wild rocky sotitode ; Hi. Jerome, 
linir naked, emaciated, with matted hsir and beard, is 
seen on hia knees bofon a crucifix beating his breast 
with a stone. The lion is almost always introduced, 
sometimes aileep or crouching &t bts feet, snmetimea 
keeping guard, sometimes drinking at a i>trcam. Tho 
must mugnificent eiample of this treatment is by 
Titian.' Ut. Jerome kneeling on one knoe, half supported 
by a cmg^rook, and holding tbe stone, looks uii ivUh 
eoiter devotion to a crow, artlessly flieJ into a cleft In 
the rock ; two hooVt lie i-n a cliff behind ; at his feet are 
a »kuU and hour ^lass, and the lion reposes in front. 
The fci-ling ofdL'Cp sotitudc and a kind of mcrrd horror 
breatbed ovur this picture arc inconceivably fine nnd 
impresiiTO. It is worth remarking that in the uld 
Venetian pioturos St. Jerome does not wear the proper 



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76 



rbft 



^ tbftt 1 



kUi knd hat of * cftrdiiul, but tn amplo tcarlet rob«, 
|Wt of vhieb ii thrown over hii he&d ni t hood." 

Celer kt Auoax. 

Sa&KKPRARs's BiBLB (6"> S. ix. 437« fil6).— 
' The comnitinication from me on this iiintter vhtch 
Toa prinUnl hru led to the publication of the 
' Inlioninti letter in the MancJust^ Examintr and 
Tiwaof July 0:— 

SiE, — I sm ftbte to give a dHoriptJon of tUo Oible 

nftmd to litsly in joar oolamni, anJ purobasad by tlie 

hte Mr. Win. Sharp about tiiirty yean it|j;o. The Bible was 

piinteJ in Jjondon bv Robert Itarker in 1611. ItoODtainn 

tvo autograptii of Sbak»p«re, one at the commencement 

rflbe New Trstament, in full, ' Willinin Sbakipare/ witb 

Ike date 1014, aod tbo other at the end of ihe book on 

. t^ oover, al»> in fait, ' William Hhaktpero, of S. O. A., 

1C13.' No doubt the Iett«r»'S. O. A.' mean 

n-Afon. The ni-xt poewsaor items to be John 

' irwicktbiro. nho records that ho was the true 

.iiLcr •jt tl<e Bibl''. ltl;U It then appeftrii in have been 

[bthe bKoiJ* vfa William BradibKW, who sayi ibiit be ii 

" ^tnie owner of thi« Bible, a l>. I6t)6, and that be is 

1 of John Brmdibaw. of Brtdibaw, Biq , and wa< 

ept. 'J2, 163a ; be refen twioo to hli raBrriage to 

r. hit Mcond wife, by wbnra he had Bsveral aong 

idgbtert, wboM Damee are giTcn. he atan givea the 

»f tbo d'.iitb of three brothert, Oeor^e, Henry, end 

o.wbo all died in the course of two years, be sUo itates 

! hii hnnora'ile father the aforcruid John Bradshaw, 

^ iifi Jan. 21, \fA^r: Thia John Brn>i»haw. of Bradihaw, 

, may b« the celobrateJ judi^; whn jire^iiod at tbo tri&l uf 

Kiiif Diaries I., ond who residi^d at ItrndOiaw Hall, 

ike^r Chapel'cn-lcTritb. [ undcntand that the namo 

I r€ Pox U not at ail uncommon in that district, and the 

' BihU may bare bean brought by the bcfure-ineutiuned 

/oha Vox to thit part, and to have got in the bands of 

the Bradibawp. B:nco then there have been H«eral 

yeemmn of tlie Bible, who giro tbi^lr named, with the 

4M^ IbtU : jAmei Dawion, bom AuRuit S, 170J. ntid 

" y, hi» wifo. born February 13, 17(W ; Thomaa Uall, 

Jamnmr, 1727; Robert Hall. May 2tl, 1734; James 

liU tHXik, 1743, with the names of Mveral ions and 

ke»; John Hoit, bom Uecember 3()lU, ISU. and 

^Brywitod. no date. On rererrint: to a abort account 

► life of ShaV-ipere, by W. ?. Collier. Lh.l).,it st-eme 
lie poet retiro't from London life to settle down at 
brd-un-Aron in tbe year 1612. Tbcrefnre, it appears 
Itle that Ihc Bible was acquired by him at the time 

Ipabtished in 1611. lie could not have been long 
Keaiiori of it, for he died in the year I61Q. I may 
^Ehat the late 31r. Wm. Bhitrp, whowas a wetbknown 
ctor of old and rare book^, S^^., had no doubt about 
i Mng genuine. Jloptni thai the aboie may eliait lome 
fntbcf In forma tioa on this relic of the urcat poet, 
I am, youw, kc, 
, Btmckfrian Street. Boqt. Storuc, Jun. 

fau ]«tt«r can hardly fml, I ahould thiok, la lead 

I duoovery of the book. It is a little curious 

[r. Stooex docs not at«t« how he came to 

tach n miQUta knowledge of it, or hov, 

Bowiot; HO much about it, bo U yet cotircly 

nofuot as to its present wbereaboutfl. Two tilings 

BOW to be deaired, viz., the speedy ducovery 

> book, and that wheadiscorered it may prove 
to be genuiDe. It would be a matter of rejoicing 
if one more r«lic of our great poet could be re- 
ooTered ; bat we moat nob nUow our eager deaire 




for Buoh » relio to bliud as to the probability tbab 
it may bo, nfter nil, only a wortblciu forgpry, such 
n^ we have already had too many exAQipIea of. 
Mr. Yocno's Bible is intero«ting oa its owa 
account, but it is evidently not Mr. Sharp's copy. 

6. DOBKLL. 
Queen'i Cresont, Havorstook Hill. 

"PiRATS HiLLa" (e* S. ix. 465; x. 32).— 
Henry Hilli, whose shop, to quot^ the imprint of 
bid pamphlets, wiut "in Btiick-Kryars, nmr the 
Walter aide," was u notorious piratical printer, who 
published unauthorized copies of poems and playt>! 
at n uoiform price of one peony each, and wu 
flourlabing early in the reign of Queeo Anne. 
Pope, in a letter to hts friend Henry Cromwell, 
dated May 7, 1709, says, sarcasticuliy, " It is the 
happiness of this age that the modem invention of 
printing poems for pence a-piece has brought the 
nosegays of ParnaRsus to bear the same price, 
whereby the puhtic-spirited Mr. Henry HilU of 
BUckTriara has been the cause of great ease and 
singular comfort to nil the learned.'* G.iy, m his 
rer:i03 toLintnt.,thepnbri!iher,!ipe;ik!twitb bitterness 
of " Pirate Uilla' brown sheets and scurvy letter," a 
description which is fully borne out by the collect ion 
which I have, cooaisting principally of old plays of 
Ben Jonson and others. I fancy that when these wero 
published Hilla had fallen upon evil days, chiefly 
hy reason of tb« passing of the first English Copy- 
right Act, which came into operation April 10, 
1710. Copyright by common law extated, of 
course, before then ; bub this remedy agjinst 
pirates of the stamp of Henry Hills, who laid 
hands on short poeou and plays and such trifles, 
was practically worthless. The Act, which recites 
in ita preamble that ''printers, booksellers, and 
other persons " had been in the habit of taking " the 
liberty of printing, reprinting, and publishing books 
and other writings without the consent of the 
authors," Imposed for the first time a penaity on 
these practices, applicable nob only to tbose who 
printed and published but to those who " exposed 
to B&le." Hence it was, no doubt, that Hills found 
it prudent to fall bock on Bea Jonson and other 
old writers; for though copyright was itUl believed 
bo be perpetual, their heirs or assignees, even if 
they could be found, were not likely to move. 
There aeeniB reason to fear that " the public- 
spirited Mr. Henry Hills" died broken-hearted 
under this legislative persecution. According to a 
note I have mode, his death occurred in 1713. 

Mot Tromas. 

Shakspbaflian Ql-hrim : Lope db Vioa 
(6** S. X. 7). — My collection of Lope's works is, 
unhappily, very Hmite*!, the only volumes I huvo 
are; Valencia, 16(>5 ; Valladolid, 16ii9; Barceloon, 
1610 and 1617; Madrid, 1616; Madrid, 1017, 1618, 
1621, and 1635; none of which contuioa the Cfutttl' 
vino, la Hlvadeneyra's collection of Spuuah 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. i»*8.x.jown'8i. 



aulliors Lope dc Voga filU toIh. xxir., xuir., 
rixriii., xli., xliii., xW.^ xlTii,xlix.,Ui.,aDdUiil, 
Bod includes the QttUlvitus. Of the two dramw, 
f^uttlvints y jlfontwM, by Lope de Vega, and Loi 
liandoii de Verona, by R^nta, lh«re ia a oom- 
plete edition edited by the Gonde de HuhoDtbtkl* 
St«tleln<y-Deiibeo {Leipzig and Pazis, Brock- 
hauB, 1839). Both thei4 an foaodcd opoa tbe 
story of the hnpleu lovers of YeroDn^ »nd buTe 
beta tranalatcd into EagUsh. F. W, C, 

EtfOiKK OF Toutdrb (6* S. x. 29).— Mr. Top- 
nAH will 6od un exceedingly good accoant of un 
engine cif torture such t\a be vpe&ks of in Arcluto- 
lofjia, vol. xxvii. pp. 2S9-250. There ore en- 
jjraTLSgi illuslrulive of this shocking iDstrument. 
Edward Pkacock. 

The Grecian ruler was Nabia of Sparta, bis wife 
being Apega. Bee Folybias, xilL 7, and Sinilh'« 
Vici of Biog., $.v. *'Nabi«.'* 

P. J. F. Oaktillon. 

Huthu (6*^ S. z. 28).— In answer to Mr. 
AuTat;n T. O. LKvnoH Oowstt, nllow ino to 
Btato that aixty years ago might be acea in New- 
town Row, BiruiDgbiim, ibea litlle more than a 
country lano leading gut of the town, the follow- 
ing :— 

" William Bvton h«ra I live^ aiul not reftue 
To mend kII lorti ort>oot4 Ami shoes, 
Itly work 1* iTooiI, my price is juat, 
/ will d<» (hem well, i}«( »>U not try.it 
Oomi and to«>naJ)s out on tb« ■liorust notice. 
HM.—A. Berkiliire Brawn kept hew." 

William Barton, an cccent ric old fellovr, lived in a 
ooe-Btoritd cllage, which he bad built hininelf 
on some waiflc luod by the road aide. After be bnd 
resided there for more thna forty yean the luwyerv 
proved loo ctinning for biin, and turned bitu ouW 
It was too much for the old man, and broke bis 
heart. After living rent free so many yeoxi it 
went against bis will to pay rent to any one. He 
lies DOW in tbe churchyard— rent freeL 

f ATaiin FOAKE. 

BInningbsm. 

VioLOUcsLLo (6"" S. X. *U).— Tbo printing of 
" violo " for pitrf'j in my Dictiwtary h a mere mis- 
take', which I regret, I had nosucb theory as Db, 
CitANcK suggests. Waltru W. Scbat. 

Edward Waltok CitAPMAM (3^ S, it, 325^ — 
My attention has been drawn to an inquiry in your 
paper ao long ago as Oct. S4, 1803, tibout the 
nbnve gentleman. If it is not loo luie. I can give 
tbe information rcquireil, and any other mformation 
about the Cbn[}mnn family. Your corTespoDdont 
S. T. R. is quilo correct in Ills facta. Edward 
Walton Chiipman whs the fin.h son of William 
Chnpninn, &q., of Whitby and Barnes, near 
Sunderland (who died 1793), and was engaged 
under bli brotbor, WiUiom Chapman, M.B. I. A., 



ijoi atfaf 
wghtj., 

s <M 

I 

ihafJP 



on important engineering worka, aod ooDjoinfa 
with him took out sevenil pntenta. E. W. <"'' 
man died at the house of his brother Abel 
man, with whom he bad been living, Xo. 
High Street, Sunderland, iu lM7j atftd vig^t^i, 
fiTO yean. ^mg 

JoBEFU Cblawhall CuAraux, CXI^I 
Lancaster Hoase, Saroj, W.O. ^^H 

*' Jk he SUIS fas la R08B, MATS ^Al V^CfT ATflQ 

kllr'^ (B"" S. ix. 447, file).— In the ftimous ' 
of the Persian poet Sadi, the poet asks a clo 
clay how it baa come to smell so fragrantly. ** I 
sweetness ia not in myself," repliui the clay; 
I hare been lying in conCoct wiib the rote." 
seema to be tbe origin of the abore aajing, 
LiLiAM C. ftL Cras 

The following extract, which I take from 
Schneiders SerxH LitUmtre, may perhaps 
in solving the qaestioa asked by J. 0. Y.: — 

"S^Ji, pot'ts pertan, exprime, par ee ol 

apologue, quelio cit sar I'buiuuie rheurevat 1 

ilo Is pociuti' UsB geni de bieii : — 'Jo ms prooiaft^' 
dil-U; * je voia & ines pieJs ubo fculllo 4 d^nti d«ss^4kl% 
qui exhatait une odeur siuTe. Jc la rauuse et la reiriln 
aveo dvliooi.' 'Tot •jui exhales de a) •i*><"< .....'..<,..' 
lui dis-je. • cs-tn la loial '— ' Nan,' ma t- 
no suis point la rose, mals j'ai \ieu ttuc", 
«Ila; da Ik vient le doux parTum rjuoj« rc!;<iiiat. 

Chas. Ja«. FfenftT. 

Oi,D SoNO (6* a X. 47).-Thi« v 
in Bulla«U and Songt of th» Ptaa*-- 
edition of the poetai, p. SIO. PrrHiwi to il 
short notice, which tells us that it i^ in thf 
burgh Collection, and alM in the 
liabcd by the Percy Society iu i 
believed it to be much older li 
of the oldeut copy. .1 

•IS. Petwarth Sire«t, Olie«tham, ^. 

[PiTuxH Pkask hta been kind c ■ i.- 
■0D|;, which 14 too lfin<{ for i>ui l j 
forwarded to A^os. Ma. Wi 
u found in 7%i t/nittrsat &■ 

Hkv. E. iMAaSIULb supplies luc kiiuc iTirccucvai 
ClCUHPTuK,] 

" DoK JuA»," Canto xv. Btamza Ott (fl» & ii. 
filO ; z. 56).— Mr. Dixun may ban rvwli 
good service by cnllmg attention to w) 
nnonymnus correspondent df«oribe« aa 
ini^Iy incorrect form." The fict [», that 
fifteenth and sixteenth canton were nM pvUfc 
until Miireb, 1824. Bym.. .li..i a,,, i 
We may, tlierefore, presni: 
stnnxa in print, Byrnn > >ri 
the printers, whoso ' 
hisaerio-comiu faciil 
even to this day, we Li4vo : — 

" Ttiy waters waited tlirm while they ««n 
aod yet we had a - 
1373> In the TiW. , 
the matter for good. AU. Ual 



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hU Poetru of Bynnt uoconBcIouilj perpeluiites 
Ihjk.^ .10(1 thb, in iptto of Byron'ii poinlcd 

Tfrt publwhcd by Mooto. Th«n, agAiu, 

" Antl thou, who nem ]tel of liuiosn wrung 
iifwf the oobblKnceJ fotlc, ffrckt Nemetj* 1 " 
(aow corrected) which caused tbe poet much 
irriUtioD. Writing to Mr. Murray (S«pt. 34, 
,X81S). Byron «ayii ;— 

A*? in »Unz«l92.It«kethe 
. Tuture. iti ull puit of id; 

If* 1^ .... ..K' 11. ;ou trill be mor« c&rcful, 

lut ic ii p«Mibl« that in addrcrtain^ the 
' lUAy bcrucne ■ bUfpUeiii;; Bi<d I da nol 
|«k»OK C' •L/l>'r fudh iQfADuiii* pt^rrcrtiotii of titf word* 
I er <)< tuy iolcntiuni. I nir the ointo by occidflnt." 

[Ieuppu«« that oceuioaally Gifford mj^rovni Iho 
nxiw : at nil ercoti he corrected the pruofa by 
Byr-.'i,'- -l.-r", the pool Wing too lazy to do tbii 
imi k bituseir. RioiTi.no Edocumdr. 

v., __ _ -^uare, 8.W. 

Xa tbo edition of 1824, coDtHtaing cantos xr. 
{., the 6rat balf of the atunz^ runs tix net ly 
Dixon quotes it, except ib;it it has " tim- 
I " for titnhat*f &nd " awaltow'd " for iXcaHowed. 
Al ili« end of ciinto xvi. it la 8lut«d that "the 
trrort of tbo privw, in this ciinto, if there b« aoy, 
an not to he attributed to the uuthnr^ aa bo vraa 

id#prired of the opportunity of correcting the 
proof-ihretu."' Though canto la uaed in the sini^'iiltir, 
ib« probAbjIity is l)):it both cantos were iotcoded 
to tm irictinlfd in this stntemeot. The editions of 
I&Stf and Ib-lD, have tba sunie reading ns the 
edition of 1H2-4 ; but in Murruy'tt " now edition" 
ftf Byron's FoeiiccU H'orh (1856), ?oI. vi. p. 351, 
it ntoii ; — 
" TbvD ihirre wnt Qod knovi what * m I'Allemauda/ 

W iiQder«t«nJ, 

rr. -I u)Hiii tliu wbolc." 

O. K. E. B. 

M v-^ LisTBW (6" S. X, 28).-In Coh- 

:UUt I find, under dute "Pclwurlh 
— ^-y, » ui-.y ereniog, I Aug. [1823]":— 

_**T o-^»yi near a place nll«d Wwtboronffh Gfwsn 
H^^aivath (irevn^ I mw a womu) blsMibinx bt^r 
ipun and bijiiie-irurtfn linen. I linvs not mod such 
[ bafura liitco I left IiDdk laUiid." 

yr, R. Tate. 
Walpole VioanKa# DaUivortb. 

SriTAiriKiJJs may possibly find what be in- 
for in Oreat IndiutTtti af OretU Jiritnin, 
ilied in llire« vuhiraca by Cuasell Ik Co,^ 
Ibo history and prograiN of the variona 
«£»clarcs oro narrated. Alpba. 

Tl(. Aftlinr Milc?i.II, in The Pait in Iht 
tion ?0&m) Htatea that 
-y BtiU In* found in uae 
i ^ iuu»y iMota uf tSwtljud (p, tt). U. l\ R. B. 



GCHTLEHAH CROSSIXO-SwUirEft (6^ 8. it. 4 19, 

403; X. 35). — Mr. Jucob Larvrood supplier ibo 
narretire which appeared in the second serieB 
of "N. & Q." to wnich Mr. Foxall hiut olrvadf j 
giren ibe reference, in his Stoiy of th* Lon'Vua 
Parh. In a foot-note he states that "a pandletl 
to itappenrcd luiely in the newspaper)/' wher»*l 
upon a correspundeul seuL the following, wfaioh 
MiBS Busk may like to know of: — 

" At a lime when Lvnilmi did not uuntnin maro iban. 
bnlf of its preHDt i>(i[>uliitiun, the Into Mr. Aldcrniii); 
Wkttbntan [ the well -known p«triot tit tiio ttuxi of 
IVilkoa] kept a vcr; I'lrge drnpsry e«tabli«bin«nt Hi tlie 
H>Dth-pftat end iif Flci-t Htrvet, fruothiK alto to New 
Bridite Street, I wu pcfionally •cquiiiutcd with tba 
Aldcrmaa, and frt^ijuently taw l>iu in bis abop. Thaiw 
nai a man in nppartntlf (i tt«to of nbniiluttf de«titutK>n, 
who iwopt, und li^d fur mauy years swont, the cro«3)ii|{., 
(o LuHl|;iito Hill. MU« Wuilbnian, out <if punt ooinprut-. 
Rion to Dili mail, va« in the frtquuut, if not dnily, bahik ] 
of Rupplyini; biiii with aoop and otbrr nieaiis of aupnurt ; ] 
at leufi^h the poor man died, leaviog btT 7.<K)0/. IbeHi-' 
facts wem wtiil knonu at the timtf, and I bavo no duubt 
are ttill witbin the recuIU--<:tiL>n of foms few at loost of 
tbuse atill iiriaj;, uf whom I am one." 

What was the *' parallel," and in what pi^r did 
it appear t Alpua, 

Old Provxrds (e*" S. ix. 466, 498; x. 6Sy— 
One of the proverbs mentioned by HKKMRMTRDnK 
reminds me of the following lines iu Gbaucer's 
ProtuQue (II. 177-180):— 

" He jtavo not of the text a palled bffn, 
That saitl), that buDtsni bo iwit bulj mtn; 
Xe that a monk, when ha U rakoleca, 
Ii like to a fish that is waterlesMi." 

Wm. PjtNOItLLT. 

Torviiwy. 

PiCTOiiM or Saiwts (C* S. ix. 468; x. £4).— 
fn vol. xxviii. of the Siuttx Arcttnolcfftcal ColUc- 
tiunM,y. II, appears an cngravin;; of St. Richnrd 
of Chichester. In Toovey's Livts of the iiaifif$ 
there is (if I remember rightly) a picture of Su 
Wilfrid, und I think the same series contains por- 
tniits of some of (he other saints luentinnod by 
^our corresiKtDiient. The eDi;raTing of St. Ricbutd 
IS from Beroardi'a series of portraits of the bishops 
still preserved at Chichester. 

FaanfiRioK E. Sawtbr. 

Drigbton. 

A SUAEfirKAKIA5 Qdebtiok (G** S. X, 20). — 
M. A. S. M. might bivro tiddod yet another coin- 
cidence, viz, that WiUiiiiu Uarrey's first wife was 
Lady SuuthaiuptoD, mot her of Sfaakespear«'a patron, 
to whom he dedicated Venus and Aaania und Tht 
Hapt of Lueree4, Willimu Ilnrvey was knighted 
in I/>96, BO ho could hardly be the Mr, \V. H, 
to wbnni tbo &oonets are dedicated. The tomb 
at Leo has been already noticed (G"* S- t. 465). 

S. H. A. U. 

The stor; of King Leir, or lienr, is taken by 

Sbokspeare— Dames and all — frora Old Geoffrey 



lilSriik 



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Cet*&X. Jiru-98,^. 



1 



of Mocmoath's fabalons history of Britain. The 
usuiM of the dHughtera tire nlittlitly iiUeiT<l in the 
■uelliritfi ihty are Gonorilla, Regan, and Cordeilla. 
Q*o1Trrj biui^eir lirod ia the niixa of Henry I. 
nd SicphcQ ; but, with hla qtittint asauniptioD of 
porfpot Acciirtcy in the obronology of his legeads, 
he finiibiM the Uile of KioK Leir nod hi.n three 
dauKblen thus: "At this time flouriabed the 
{iroplioU Imifth BDd HoicA, aod Rome won bailt 
(HMD the eleventh before the Kalends of May by 
the two brothers, Romulus and Remus." The teal 
Cordelia, therefore, lired about 2130 yean before 
ber oftmiwokfl of Blaokb^ath. 

Ghaiilotte a. BOOBR. 
8c. SaYteur*!. 

CaoLioftTBO {0** 8. ix, 4flfl).— In All the Tear 
Jlouud, new seriea, voL xir, p. 286, there is an 
inlere«tinf{ article with reference to tbia ootorioua 
impotlor, The writer remarki: — 

" Ifa oan niKkit koM ahflmiotlr. he njri ; but If they 

frefpf a <iliort«r m nv lit o>ii piok laem out good nuint>erf. 
Ir, wconJiiin to liU own ronion of the story, pick* out 
liuinl or« »•) well in hia io<lgintti %i Whltcoml) Strevt that 
Mtu Kry wlni ivu ilwtimAxA pbun-ls, au<I thia Iidv pre- 
•fifiis )ii* wife *\IU m dumvnd oecklaoe (only a little one 
thi* nivkUM)." 

SraKATilAM. 

hfovrnai (C" 8. ix. 480; x. 30).— From mon, 
alone, iaoUted ; /r a$f for vrai, from bnu, ftrent. 

R. S. CtURKOCE. 

Oapt. Jonw Frrocbbow, R.N. (fl** S. ix. 500). 
— Id CJharnock'a Ilioymphia Namlit (v. 451-3) 
ao account is tiiren of his profesaioool serriccs, 
from 1740f when he cnraninnded the Furnace 
boutb-TOMet, cruising off the Scotch coast, till his 
denlh In 1767. An uoeodote 'm also quoted there 
frnni Kntick'K Naval Ui$tory. A Vkrofiolcgical 
Li*t of Cofitilnn of UU Majttfy't Iloyal Savg, 
I^mlnn, 1784, long 4to. (which 1 believe ii not in 
the Rritith Mtiscnm Library), oonfirms Char- 
nock's facta, and add* that ho died *' in EoglAod." 
Qeorck F. Hoopbb. 

WiLtUH or WoBCWTKtt (6** S. X. 9).— Thia 
UfOfrary, aa edited by Ntamilh 1778, abounds in 
miaprinta. In tho account of Mount's Bny " froe 
la Bfitru" can be nothing except "from Lixard." 
"Quorealake oum a yenne neckly" must be 
"Qwavai Lako^ coming agnioat Newlvn." 

TeIUHAS KEflALAKB. 

TlKBrsBAW (C*^ g. Jx. 319, 388, 370, 4:i6, 
Dll; X. 30). — D. G. C. R. contradtcii my 
htatemeota revpaotLag tho Henihaw fumily. 
ITo snja no WiUiaui Strickland of Boyotoa 
married a Henihaw, nnd that no TIe(i4b«w, 
either Clwrlo* or Edward, wan Lord Mayor np 

to 1773. V.i'i- T P,n.\ .., 1>.A.,'. p.,, ,, ..} 

Barojuiag* \. 

Sir Tbomaa .'i r 

% daagkter and oobetrtaa of fidward • Cnarles 




Henshaw, Esq., of Bltbam." The aarae HaiuhAV 
is nl^o deitcrilied in Burke'a Landid <>cn/rf as 
"Alderman and Lord Mayor of London." Will 
D. G. C. E. kindly give me h\s authority fa 
differing from Sir Bernard Burke. D. G. C. 
further states that Sir William Strickland, thir 
l}Aronet,"married, in 1G84, Elizabeth, duu^bterao^ 
heir of William Puliuer, E»q." This is olearlj 
wrong, OS he married the daughter of Willuiail 
Pntmea of Lindley, a branch of the old family of 
Palmes of Naburo. Cudstakck Bussklu 

Sw&Ilowfielil Tark, Heading. 

Eakly Stsau Natioatiok (fl* S. Ix. 508X- 
The Unicom, of Olaagov, 640 tons, vru bnilt 
wood by Robert St«eld & Co., of GroeDOofc^ 
1838. Her engines were by Onird 4 ~ 
Glasgow, between which port and Live 
traded for many years. In 1847 she was pur 
by Jamea Whitney, of St. John's, N.B., from 
British and North American Steam PaekKt Co., 
and wiis transferred to Edward Cunard, Jan., of 
Halifax, K.S., in 1849. In 1864 she was regift^nd 
de novo ab Sydney as the property of Edy* 
Manning, who sold ber in China aboni Ui« year 
1870, when her British re^^tster was oloatd. Tin 
City of Dublin Steam Packet Co. was e^tnbli '.' ■ 
in 1823, and the General Steam Nav 
during the following year. The S 
Steam Packet Co. was formed io I82ti,^u; 
conreyanoe of goods and passengers between t'c-. 
Dublin, Bristol, and London, but proved a nunon^ 
speculation for the original shareholders. It irai 
dissolved, and tho Cork Steam Hlrr" ' ' ''" ■' ' 
li.shed. By a report in the Unitti 

for 1830 H.M.S. Meteor sailed U..... . ... ^- 

Feb. 0, with the mails for the Mcditerrmneae, 
being the first adoption of steam for that purpMt. 
Eyckard Uokk Coutuuv. 

71, Brecknock Boa<l. 

SQErriNOTOK (O** S. ix. f'09). — As ori- 
written by the author, the Hob. Henry l: 
SkeftJogtoD, the lines run as follows:— 
•' Uare they penBliiJ ilieo fur erer I Oh I Thou Bcna 

ofLJiflit I'lTiiie, j^l 

Tbftt liKAt Btn-aui«d on sTsry nation from Thy VdSdlH 
in I'ElMt.tw ! " 

That bust raitod a Ticbory-troiiby, e'eo ia Uatks sou 

tbc grsTo, 
Who may tell wh»t duwn ThuQ II floih arauaJ tbe 
piisoDcra of this cutq I " 
They aro the loil four lines of a po-' 
Etruscan Tombs ot Perugia and < ' 
D. S. will i: ' '. . : - ' 

rntitled A 
Ilcmtf /ii/i.i I i 
upon-Thitme«, 1 

i\\ U M f 



right Vtscouotsaa MasMivono. 




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79 



this book of poemi the poet's i\st«r it&t«3 tbftt be 

^ difs! rtt Rome, Fob. !7, 1840, "JHst before com- 

|)U'iing the tweoly-secontl year of hU nge." Ac- 

' "" i^ to Lod(^e'(lHH3) and Foster (1882) lie was 

Feb. Ht, 1820. iiti.i died Feb. 20, 1846. 

^1R34} is wisely aileot ni to tbe date of the 

birib. and ooolentB himself triib snyiDg that 

' in Ilome in 1846. G. F. R. B. 

A Weddiso CnaroH (6*"» 8. viiL 147; ix. 135, 
kl5,359).— The piiriihiooeriaqnired after by Au'HA 
ired all her lifa ia Suffolk. William Deank. 



» 




NOTES OX BOOKS, ttc 
Alorifinat AwurtMn Authors. By D»nW O. Briulon, 
M.A. MJ). (PUiUdelphU, Briatou; Lomion, Triibner 
kCo.) 
Thf /royvow Bi>»i c/ Ritta. Edited by iloratlo tlkle, 

JkLA. (8*iiM pnbbthen.) 
Tua pultliaalion of tbcH tiro works \a h decided serrice 
U ht«rmiur«. In the firat of tbeni I>r. Itrintoti girei ft 
lUt hml tome account of ftll Ui« atill extADt worki of 
2ailt*u writers, «hit« the second i»« tniMlalion of tbo 
lOntea obaerrcd EmonK the Iroquois on tho death of 
This is, howeTcr, »carcc)y the niott Taluablo 
of the book. In the iiun>duction. nhich formi 
th«Tolume,ft most intcrt-rtin^ and instructiTC 
(iven of ihoic trtbci which uuited in (orming 
' "Toia Confpdcnicy or Lctk^c. Thu ui>ioii 
th<^ year 1460, ftod by meui b( it Ave 
t powarful Cribei tt that time occopyicg 
' oh DOW forms the north-eutcrn portion 
-tivtei were, by tho genliu and onerity of 
-t^^ratba, welded iota oat family. With 
isdctm and r«»l itftt«fimanihip this fusion 
of pTfeiioutly anta^^mitio intercsti waa carried out is 
|irtn«d by the f«ct that the twcKe thousand Iro- 
■loois Indians who bliH remain in America continue 
to acknowleilfn) tha laws, the cusLums, and tho ordi- 
nances of (hcLcsftue. The ritunl mT the funeral ceremony 
iwair is tnlcri-stirtg only as bearing oat the prsTioualy 

n^j'.'"— --'ious a* to the tone of thought of the 

In-li ; iiignage thruughont is eoniewuat highly 

rtru. ra no inconsiderahle reetmblanoe io strle 

and cUui^L'tcr to that put into the nioutlis of some nf his 
Indian btroc* by tbe lato Fenimore Cooper. What 
is nally cumm^naahle aii<l satiaraftory about this book, 
iadependent of its intrinaio OK^rits. Is that it endeavours 
In dear awajr some nf the prpjutlices of tho Americans 
•rtonSay with regard t« tlieir ]ndi<iD predeceliora. Ihe 
HfOowing passage U, for Imtonca, worthy of attoiitiou : — 
*> Tbe popular opinion of the Indian, anil more espe- 
dally of tbe Iroquois, who. hm Mr. Parkiiuiii wtttl ob- 
•. is an ' Indian of the Inriisns,' reprcBente liim t« e 
I Mnxilbiftry, innebaroai, and rindictire being, somewhat 
I S^oln kls sffMtions, haughty arid reserved towards 
hk rriinds, metcfleM to bw enemies, fond of strife, and 
wti-r- -'try and the purtuits of jieace. 8<>me 

nut* are occasiorally allowed to him; 
KirLi" uiri romance hate thrown a ulunoar round 
haracter tvbicli popolsr opinion, not without reason, 
• tically reptidintdi nnd rcKnli. The tnith is that 
cumttaiM- lich the red and white races 

b««a rueouutci <*» have been mob aenecei- 

■nly l^give ti^ > Hy false lmpre«im In reiud 



to tbe obnrecter of the aborii^iDce. Tho European colo- 
nists, superior In civilisation and thi> arts of war, landol 
on the coast with the deliherats intention of lakinf 
p<i84e«sion of the country and difplacinn the lutires. 
The tDdiaiis wcro at once thrown on tha defensive. 
From the xery (tegirming tbc-y ruoiiht, not merely for 
th<:ir lanJ^ hut for their livrs ; for it was from tbe Und 
that they drew their mcjins of llilog. All wars between 
the whttee and tbe Indlant, whstorer the colour or pre- 
tence on sitber aide, have been, on both sides, wars of 
extermination. They hsve been carried on as such wars 
always have been, and always will be, carried on. On 
the lido uf the stronger there have been constant en- 
croBchmonts, effected now by menace and now by 
c*jolery, but always prefaced by tho iniolsnce of supe- 
rior power. On the nde nf the weaker there liare been 
nltemaliuni of sullen acquiescence and of florco and 
fruitless resistanoo. Tt is not surprising that, under #ncti 
circumitaaces. the character of each party has Inen 
cresented to the other in tho most forhiilding light. The 
Indians must be judtced, like cTct7 other people, not by 
the traits which they display in the fury of a desperate 
warfare, bat hy their ordinary demeanour in time of 
peace, and especially by the character of their sootkl and 
(loraestie life. On this point tbe testimony of mission- 
aril's, and of other competent observers who hare lived 
among them, ts uniform. At home the Indians are tho 
most kindly and generous of men. Constant gnod 
huuiouf, onfftiling courtesy, ready sympathy with dlf- 
tre<B. and a truly lavith liberality, mark their intercourse 
with one another." 

We ooold quote, If epaoe permitted^ many more psgea 
of equal interest : bat, in any case, one rather starUing 
theory, contained in a note at the end uf the book, most 
not be omitted. " Philologists," says the note, "are well 
aware that there is nothing in the langQage of tho Ame- 
rican Indians to favoor the conjecture (for it is nothing 
else) which derives the race from Eikatem Asia. Uut in 
Western Europe one community Is known to exist speak' 
ing a language which, in iu geni^nl etructtire, manifette 
a near iikenest to tlte Indian tongues. Alone of alt tho 
rare* of tbe old coDlment thu Bosqaes, or Euakariani. of 
Kurthem Spain have a speech of that highly complex 
and polysyntlictic cliaracter which diittnguiabea th« 
Americao Uogusges. There is not, indeed, any mioh 
pOMJttve eimilarity in words or grammar as would proW' 
a direct afBliatioii. The likeness is merely in Uie general 
cast and mould of the speech ; but the likeness is Sd 
marked is to hare awakened much attention. If tho 
scholars who had noticed it had been avrnre of tht? facts 
now adduced with rcganl to the course of migration on 
this cDDtintnt, they would probably have been led to th» 
concluiion that this similarity in tho type of speech weft 
an ovidencc of the nnity uf race. There seems reason to 
believe that Europe — at least in its sontbem and western 
portions — was occupied in early times by a race having 
many of the characteriitlct, physical and mental, of tha 

American aborigines On the theory, which seomli 

tbos rendered probable, that tho early Europeans wertt 
of the same race as tlie Indians of America, we are able 
to aeooant fur certain cbaracterinic of the modem 
nations of Europe which would otbervtiM preient to tbo 
student of anthropolotcy a iterjilexing problem." It le 
evident that, in order to deoiue this auestion, a pbito- 
logiit would have to he acquainted with both tbe Iroquoifl 
and the Bosiiiie languages That we may noon bear <w^ 
some one who pos«o«ie« the«o qualifications, and who 
will be able to throw some light on the subject Is a con* 
inramation devontly to be wlihed. In the mean lime, 
wc Con only lincerety recommend thie seriea, and wiih 
Dr. Elrinton and bia fellow-workeri every sacceis in their 
tntereeting and praiieworihy tack. 



80 



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|9>8.X.Jn.tiC.'SL 




A retitrpiuopi CantmtriensU. Kdited Iit Oliirlei Trice 
Mtrlin. D.A., for the Mi>aUr of the Jlolli. Vol. II. 
U>"tii;tiiiiii« h Oo.) 
TliK crjrrr*poTi>Iencij prtntei] in tiiii rolume extoodx oT»r 
A jrfriod at iirarlr two ycftra, from Auk. 12, VZ'^'2, to 
Jtitir 12. Vl*t, Tn« greBter pirt of ttiis timo wu» q>cnt 
\<y Archli'uhop Pcckhim in trnvolline Almut li'i province, 
for (he twofoltJ puriMM« tit liulding rl-itatioiis in tito 
dkKcxea thruuKb nbich ho [isMeJ, and of comctiiit: 
■bnwa AmotiRit tlio secuUr nod repalar dflrKT- Tlio 
maitiDtur«tLii'K of tLe ftrcbbiihcp'i joumeyi, and that 
trhicli I lacai hia chararter in the tnD«t favounible light, 
frua the ruiMion tvliich be Dndcrtook iti October, \'28'2, Id 
tlif hf'p« of inpdifttiDt: bntircpn Kini; IMwRrd uid bii 
rubi-iliouii vuMkI, LIbwoHth, Trinco of Snowdon. Tba 
ftrebbiibop vriM in Drviin^hirs at Whitsuntide, when Ui'> 
iDViirrcction bri>kfi out in Wb1ci,ftDd lost iio time in com- 
Biftiid)[>if bin oufrrtgftri tiahopi to curiR tbo WfUli ratels 
vitb boll, bi-ok.niid catidlc. Bat Kltbouttb he did not 
•hrtntt fiv)ii> lbi« dutj to his ^oweTtig1\^ he whm a peaeo* 
tiikker In hia Itfart, and ninreover had lonf{ held fncndly 
(oUttona with tba Wctsb princa and bi« aobjecta. 8o 
tooa, llier«fur«. a« be know tbnt the king was in >'ortb 
Walca wiUi a larite nrniy, be bkBtcDod to the acene of 
action, In tb« bo|^ of prcTentiofC a var which could not 
but end In Llewellyns utter dcfltniction. He found 
Klt>ic I'idward at IWauoatii Cattle, irbrro bli offers of 
luf-diatiuii viere coolly rrceired. The king wnuld pro- 
nii>c nu coiircMiunji, but be allowed th« arcbbiabop to 
contiiiuo bis joiirney to Llewellyn, who had entrenched 
liiinicif in hit itronu furtrcti of Aber on Snowduo. The 
arcbliiahoit itftyvd thcro thrfc days, and did hi* utnioat 
to pcnuiido Llewellyn tu aubuitt without conditionii to 
the king'ii mercy. But the noweptibilitiea of tb« Welsh 
prtnce were offended by the aaaumptibn of Gngliih 
nparlority, and all the archbiahop's cminarls of sub- 
tnmlon proved ineffectual. In the meanwhile hoatilitiea 
beffikn. and tba Enffliah suffered a Kr&nt loes in an un<uo- 
rnsful attempt tu crora the rirerCnnway. Lleirellyn 
wa4 encouraged by this jjlcam of fortune to leave bi» 
•tronsbold and descend int'i tlio plaina, but he was sar- 

EHseq there by the Ifnglinb Lords of the March on Deecro- 
ar 11th folloirinic, Biid was killed in tbe battle winch 
cnaucd. As bo had died riconitauntcated. Cbrttitiiin 
burinl wa« rtfuned to his reuiaina. The nrobbishop waa 
always on the aide of meroy. and when he wus aBuml 
Lj one c'f Iili-wrllyn'fl Ru|tli*li ci>utini». Lady Maud de 
L<inKe»Tti*o, that the piincobnd li<-nid mats on the mom- 
hi{E uf ibc battle, uiid had a!>l>.<:d fur a priest in ar<im/o 
niot(>/, he {Udly excrri>ed his aulbority to grant the 
ahaolotion which allowed bis old friend to bo bnrWd in con- 
tecfatc<l cround. Llewellyn's death waa quiohly followed 
liythe cnnqueat of Wale< : fur bis brother DatI*!, who 
was the last rf tho WeUh princet, iurrcnd-re-l three 
nnntbi afterward*, and »iu vx^ciitcd at Hlirrwrbury 
Artbbi«bnp PrcVbain rxrrte<l liintMilf after ibe cunuue*t 
t»rccorifilc titc WoUb to Bi^gli*!! doniiniof.and the king 
bad h'l i*M''^ iiiiti) b" '"■* ""■•'f '•'■■Tula for the loaiea 
which the Welih CI ' i 'luring the war. 

But ff^kliftm wn" ■ i^'llibmaQ aa well 

n" ■•}'■ "^^ sternly 

T' . wttb tlicir dis- 

*!i ^ . ' required by their 

>klit,j«/iiui. lit (bow lilt) txmmpit of loyally and sub- 
UilMkon to Ibe Kngltah rule. 

Chfiiir* Qltominrji. By W. E. A. Axon. (Mancheatcr. 
Tnbba, Brook, and Cbryital ; London, Sirapkin k 

Tills Is an «xoell«nt (tddition to thoao volumes which 
rvprcfcnt lb« Incalbvrinc i4 long obacrrallon of tnen 



and mniiiterf, and of loo^t lei;cnd and folk-birc;. in »\ 
trict still liobty stored with meh irensurt*. It T 
C(irit>u» coirto)dnni>% hot •-jnite ubdeslirtiad. that 
Axon tbunld be Found tellmi* vi n]\ nVmit tha i 
quake of ir77< Thetv are ni.i 
tnany niclurosqne lerciula 

gentry.'' Mr. Axon has co1;j, . m\ 

hand, and woren tbein Into a E^BOcf al Cbostiirv garlaAJT 



Mr. Rfionn'fl reply to nndry aaaailnnta In the mattar 
of the woni "Port" will apprar in the fori., 
□utubor of the AuUuttarutn Jla'iuxiat, alnnc I 
articla by our rncDd tb« Rev. .T, Market) o« '' 
Floniiah cltr oF Hamtne, n»d snmc Teunyaonin^.. 
entitled "The Congress Afield," appropriate to 
preiottt scajun. 

A Htw ToliiTue by TliftrMu, entitled S^miw^tr, . 
shortly be publithed by Mr. T. Vliltar T'nwln. Ill 
b« edited by Mr. H. U. U. DIakc. and consist of paM 
and tclfctiunB itlastratire of luinmer. Tboma hia 
thouirbt of snob a work, for In bU jonmal be «rit_ 
"a book of the seasons, each page of which «houl'1 
written in itii own season and out of dootSj oi in ila I 
locality, whererer it may bo." 



^olfrttf to Corrr^pantirnM. 

W* Miu( call tpxiai attention to tkt fetlowvtg \ 

0» all conmioniralioni must be written tha i 

address of the sender, not necetaarily for pahUttiUaa, ( 
as a guarantee of guod faith. 

Wk cannot nnderlake to answer qneriea pfitalaly. 

To 'ecure insertion ol communications correepon«knts 
mutt obserre the fullowtns rule. Let each note, •iweryt 
or reply be written on a lenirato slip of paper, wtiii libs 
f<it;natur« of the writer ana sueh addreai •• he wisbe* ta 
appear. Corre>[Kmdrnts who repeat queries are requested 
to head the second oommuntcstiou " [>uplic«l«." 

^OAKITl (" Marriapa betwcin Ptep-nepbew Rnd Stcn 
aunt"). — In its legal and its tbeulogirat asf- 
inquiry ii etjually outnde the rnngn of que 
undertake to answer. 

A MijicnrsrtR Mab ("Sub judire.'* Ac). —Tear 
aniwor to tbia is nntioipated, fi'>> 8. Til. 160. Tbukt ft 
your answer to " With how liule wisdom," In^ wUok 
will shortly appear. 

C. P— The "Copper Captain" i i i 

ftulea Wi/eandhitvta M'^/i, by Ut ■ 

lie KtTcs ihsi^iiRcnut presents anl ( . .. 

value, end is Benerally an impostor. He ia c 
itead ufifoM. The term "aapring oaptjUii" n. 
know. Where dors it occur 1 

W. II.— t'ljff', a gang r>f hIatos goinc lo morkeii 
Aral'ic Ko-fala, r:»ri.T..ii i \V,.i..i«, i 

CoaniuvKDA.— to state tWl 

article on "Williti .-."(G"'a 

name" l]untiuKd«»,"nbi'ror£r ituCcurv, ahmli^ 
ingioK. P. b*}, col. 2, 1. Sfi, for " usuagQ " rtShA 

Editorial ComrannWln-n- nhntiM Sr *djrr«ft4 in •Tlte 
Editor of ' NoU* 
buatitesB I«tl«rs I 
SVellingtun Strm-. 

We beg I tnat wv a.. 

municaCiodf my reason, w 

to Ibis rule we lau niaaa no ftCMptlow. 





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I to CbwrnnitonU. Ac^ 



3B STALLS OF THB KNIGHTS OP THR 

OOLtiBN FLEKCB IN TUK COKO OF THE 

CATUEDKAL OP BARCELONA. 

I Bv th« origioal sUtutcs of tbo Order of the 

P€4liit& Fl««ce (Articles «., ixi.,3tiii.) it was clearly 

tha intaotioa of Ua founder, Pbilip, Dake of Bur- 

j, that tba Chapol of tlie Dukes at Dijon 

bould be Ibe chtf /uu of tbe order ; in fact, 

bould be to it what tbe Chapel o( St. George at 

\''todsor ia to oar own Order of the Gartor. Bat 

krtida xxii, which rnerved to the sov^rei^ the 

ii^ht tooouTeoe the knifibts and hold the triennial 

chapter **«a tel liea qne le Bouverain fera para- 

b: B{«TOtr par temps competent et raiaouuable 

La dialanoe des Ueux," naturally caused tbe 

•ard of the original intention, and in fact 

waa held at Dijon only one out of the 

Btj-lhreo chaptera which took place before 

Papal aothority dispensed altogether with 

tbt ifbligation of cbapt^ral elections. The other 

t*«ntytwo wt-re held wherever it best suited the 

c>artiiienc« of the aovereifja — at Brugf?, Ghent, 

<w alaiwhere in the Low Countries; and the long 

Wiiet of eon temporary eecutcbeons of tbe illuatrioaa 

I do U Toixou d'Or which still remain at 

^BroMela, Bnigea, Ghent, the Ha^uo, and 

form pages in a Libto d 'Oro of the 





highest interest to tho htatoriaQ and the goneolo- 
gist or these series only one, that wbiuh n>- 
mains at Dijon, hue. so far as my knowledge ex- 
tendx, been doKcrib«>d in print. It is to be found in 
Puvyn'fl Th^tUre d 'HonntuT it do Ouvjlti-u, tuiue iu 
(Paris, lt32<i;; but I have made aso of the oppor- 
tunities iitfotdcd by holiday trips to jot down io 
my note-books mo&t (if not all} of the others which 
remain, and it is poesible that if the matter be of 
interest to the readers of " N. & Q." these, with a 
few brief annotationa. may at fitting interrals find 
a home iu ita pages. 

The present p«per contains the series in the 
cathedral at Barcelona. It is, I think, of great 
interest us being a contemporary record of the 
only chapter ever held in Spain, the country 
which is most generally associated in the present 
day with this illiistrions order, though it is still 
conferred by the head of the house of Austria. 

It was during his fint risit as 80?ereign to his 
Spanish dominions that Charles I. (better known 
by tbe ioiperial title to which ho shortly after- 
wards attained, as the Emperor Charles V.} re- 
cetvod at Barcelona iatelligenca of the death of 
his grandfather the Emperor Muximllian, who had 
bimself been nob merely a Kuight of the GoldMI 
Fleece, but by his marriage with Mary, Duchan 
of Burgundy, tbe actual soTereiga of tbe order 
during her lifetime. 

The emperor's decease took place on January 1, 
1619, and on March 5 the young King of Spain, 
then just oommenoing his twentieth year, deligntcd 
and dazzled bis Catalonian sabjects by the brilliant 
spectacle of a chapter of the order held amid tho 
architectural glories of their magnificent oatbe- 
dral, at which two kings, those of Norway and 
Palaud, were installed a^ Knights of the Golden 
Fleece. For that eereainny large osautcheons with 
the arms of the then knigbta of the order were 
painted upon the backs of the fine stalls of tbe Coro, 
and remain,to all appearance, just as they were then 
depicted. Tbe cathedral at Bircelona is, so far as 
my experience poefl, the darkest of the Spanish 
cathedrals, in which the "dim religious light" 
prevails to an extent to which we in other countriea 
are quite unaccustomed. This made it a matter 
of some little difficulty to decipher accurately tbe 
bbiKons on the stalls. But the works of Munrice 
and Chifllet havo enabled me to correct a few 
obvious errors, and if future travellers can add 
information, or supply further cotreouoos, no one 
will be better pleased than the writer of the praaent 
paper, 

DwkSi Side, 

Tk* Rtium. 

Cbartu I. otHpain, &c. Tho Savereifo. 

1. Kinn of ErmlHnil 115. 

2. King uf I'wrtugnl ... .. ... IJO, 

3. 

4. TTaffiios ds Metun ... 100. 

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f), Jomn Manuel 

7. .Iitatiiieii, Oomto do Homci 

K, lUnry, Cimito do Nawsu 

1). PrciK-rick, Oimiit Palntine 

10. Guy, Comte do MontrcuU 

11. Iiaun-nt do OorroTod 

Vi. Jitciiun d(! (Javre 

\X Aiitiiino dv lialntn 

14. ('liarloB do litimoy 

ir>. Mlclip] von Wolkenitcin 

let, Wiltitilm Ton lUp])olittain 

17. Jean, Vicomtode Leyden 

1H. Francitii, Gonitis d'Bsi>inoy 

111. Kadriquo dtf Toledo, Due d' A Ira ... 

^>. I>ieKO do Mondova, Due do I'lnfuntado 

*J1. AlTaro dc /iii'iiKa, Due do Rpjtir ... 

*£i. Fcniand, Comto do Cardona 

*2:\. Ftulriquo llonriquoi, Comte dc Modica 

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The sUlla oooBiBt of twrnty-Bix on either Bide 
of the ohoir, without coanting those la the " re- 
turofl' fBOiDft east, four in namber on either 
Bide. In St. George's Chapel at Windsor these, 
as it will be remembered, are occupied by the 
Kuitthts of the Garter of royal descent, but at 
itaroelona they were reaerred for the sovereign 
Md his suite. The stnll of tho first knight (our 
own Henry VIU.) was thus the first in the long 
line of twenty-six on the south, or decani, side 
oftho t\m\ 

Of the four stalls on this, the sorereigu's side, 
the thin! is that really occupied by Charles. 
On the hack of the first is painted, upon an azure 
ground, touto of the fiames and fnails which com- 
)H>#e the ivlUr of the order, the royal badge of 
the Oolunm* of Hercules, with the motto " Plus 
ultiA." In the second and fourth, also on a blue 
crtniml. is » long enumeration of the royal titles 
in letters of gold, rery much as set out in Chiillet 
at )\ T<^. The third, or royal, stall has emblaz.tned 
on it the full arms of Charles as King of Spun, 
1'^uke of lUirgundy, ^c. surri^nnded by the collar 
of the v^ttl^r, and timbied with a n^yai helm lur- 
iUi,Mint^d by the tower oreet of Castile. The *Dgle 
of the »1«1U is berelled otf. and cvupie^l by a com- 
(vftTtm^nt the siie of a «t«ll. on the back of whioh 
\* au inKTiption cvMtiniemoratiTe of the chapter, be- 
tween tw\« smaller tvmpart'.uenta, on e^ch of wh;ch. 
on the usual asare grvninl, is depicted the }»ur- 
cundian b*»?c** of the '\»\-l, or place, surrvnicdevl 
\y golden t!*iBe*. The reflemrtion of this large 
s|\ft.v j^tTe f.iU ^v:u for the »>T«r«;i;n and hi* 
aitrv.dants. 

\ now rr\vee%l U* dejcrbe the Kntthers 
s:aV«, teiniA-.r^ ^.rst of aU that all the «h;«li* 
a*v »;in\".:r,t<vi by the collar of the oivier. 
W uh svaiwly an Vt^vpiion all Kaxe «n*'.* ard 
h^lRkfta. the waKt'ioiCs !.>{ which aiv inwiabiy or 
attd i^ule* , 

U Tbe f rsl MahU K*ra the iasv^ia «f «w Klec 



1 and 4, France ; 2 and 3, England; w 
royal helm and crest of England. While 
of Wales, Henry had been elected a Ki 
the Order (in which his number was llf 
sereDteenth chapter, held at Middlebargh 
land in the year 1005. 

2. The second stall bears the royal i 
Portugal, Ai^., fire escutcheons in cross a 
chained with aa many plates in saltire ; th 
within a bordure of Castile, Gu., thereo 
castles or. Crest, oat of a coronet a 
issuant, with wings expanded, or. Em 
King of Portugal and the Algarrea (No. 1 
the first of the twenty knights created by 
y. on his accession to the throne of S| 
extension of the original number of the ore 

3. The third stall was left raouit. It 
be filled in the coarse of the day by the : 
tion of King Christiem 11. of Denmai 
was present in peraon. He had espoused 
Isabella of Austria, sister of the soreretj 
daughter of Philip L of Spain and 1 
(^neen Juana. 

4. Hugues de Melun, Vicomte de Gan 
neur de Hendine et de Gaumont (No. 106). 
seren bezants (3, 3, I), and a chief or. 
out of a mural crown a bull'e head or, tl 
azure, thereon seven bezants as in the arm 
noble was elected a Chevalier of the Ordei 
chapter held at Mechlin in 1401, and « 
sequently the senior knight at the chj 
Barcelona. His grandfather Jean was 
Knight of the Order (No. S8X He had him 
dered great serrices to the Archdnke Ha 
in his conflict with the citizens of Ghi 
governor of Dendremont, and in l&Ol 
panied the Archduke Philip and the ] 
Juana on their joamey to Spain. 

5. Philippe, Bastard de Boorgt^e, . 
of the Netherlands, Seignenr de Somi 
vNo. IIIX Or, the qnartMed amu of Bi 
tn chivron^ viz., Qoarteri^Ti 1 and 4, Bi 

I ni'ylem, Ce., Franca ancient within a 

: goboce arg. and gn. S, Per pale, 1, Bi 
ancient. Bendy of six or and az., a bord 
f, Itrab^c:, &., a Uoo ramp, or, armed 
Per pale, 1, Kufpindy ancient, as bef 

'■ Limborg, Aiy.. a Boa ramp, go., qaene f< 
arme«.l and crowned or. Over all FUnd 
a lion tamp, ca., armed gn. Cmt, an 
..'\>uk'.i% .It.<-\ Philippe was one of the Ule 
son* of Philip, Duke of Bn^nndy, and 
disUBiCTiished hia»^ in the wart <^ his 
WM elected tThevaUer of the Order in IJR 
aiierwanU look holy or^is, and in 15L{ 
r««£,:cjkli<M of Vhihp IV., kfaigiave of Bai 
elected Biskfi of I'mehtk in wUoli on 
welded war aAiHt tki Dnk* of QwMi 
hJeswdUitowmaf SwobL HodMJ 

^V^** YvHb CwMff fs t dm Omimjk 2 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



83 



I. pp. 4(15-6; ADd add the dtto of bis eleo* 
}!iiict«<l ia Pkjtthaat, U^effic-iar dtircfk rfi> 
kUw^k* dct Europ'titcJun Mittelulters, 
seat, p. -433, IxEXTii., BUsbufe too 

Miinu«l, Seixneur de Bolmonte de 
4 d« y^-shtk-o dd U Torre (No. 119). 
irty, 1 uid -1, MftQiiel, Gu., a rigbl h&od 
ijs proper, winged or, rind faoldin^ a dmwn 
in pale of the fteoond ; S and 3, L^on, Ar^., 
nunp. (iQ. (or parpare), orowoed or. Crest, 
I arm habited az , brandtabin}; a flword ppr. 
[to of J^Au Mnouel de YilleoA by Aldoace 
[UflroA, he hold eererttl high emplovaitiots, 
I ftmbauador of SpMo at the Papul Court. 
ir«d the di^attj of Graodee of .SpAJn, and 
t5 me eteoted a Koif^ht of the Order Tie 
1535. and U buried io the cfaapel of St. 
the Domicioan monaatery of Ptfnafiel. 
raeqaes, Comt« de Horuee (No. ISl). Or, 
haallng boras gu , viroled arg. Greet, a 
3 roand bat erio., the lower part bordered 
beada of peacooka' fenthera ppr. Sou of 
1^ aaooDd oount, by Jeaoae de Grutaiie 
it«r of Loaii de Brug*^. Priuce of Steeo- 
Aa. Chevalier de la Toieoa d'Or, created 
h( Wiocbeeter in 147^, which ditfoity he 
dcred ia MdO), b« wus elected a Knight of 
iderin 150&. 

Icsry, Comte de Nassau (No. 132). Qaar- 
1 utd 4. Naeaaa, Ax. billultt^, a lion r«mp. 
and 3, ViandeD, Gu., a fes« arf;. Crest, 
m h^dge or, two wini^ a<]doraed, p<ir fus na. 
g. H« wai son of John, Count of NoBsau, by 
of HeBae,aad waa Cbambetbio, ambasaador 
V aad G«aeml of the Armiea of the £m- 
io faU war with that country. Ha wus 
I Koight of the Order in l^OTi. By bis 
\ narna^e with Claude de Cbalon, sister 
idraaa of Pbilibert, Prince of Orange, that 
pliiy r^mi? to the boiiso of KaHau. (See 
F t dn Ifftpmhtnifl^ pp. 291 

, deschicit-lt (fw Konujllch 
rudun ff .i^^'ffi/, pp. 7l)-82.) 

J. Woodward. 
Itom. 

(To h* wad'aiMd) 



LiEUTESANV FBLTOX. 

(Kcea-'S. iriii. I'll.) 

T oblitorAte the intereit attached 

1 which raided .Tobu Felton to tfae 

' oriety be nttnined in the history of 

U« WM no ordinury ivtsHK&in and his 

%0 *»«tlh»rf icortftK Whilat antiquaries 

.f two rivfti koivcfl woe 

*o • i mijzbty prince George, 

v it came, the early 

' bopght tho koife 




with a murderous intent, and who wielded it lo 
well, remains a mystery. A« is well known, Fcltou 
was the younger son of a younger brnnoh of ono 
of the oldeit fAmlUea in Suffolk. A f^atleiuiu by 
birlb, be was al^o a gentleman by profesaioo, being 
the tubaltern oQicer in a compmy of foot. These 
meagre facte bava been recorded by all our his- 
tofiaua ; but none, ao far aa I know, has yet dia- 
coTered — or at all events thought fit to maka 
known — the fsct that Felton served oi alioulenant 
in the army sent to Cidiz in the year 1625 under 
General Sir Kdw&rd Cecil. This is an important 
link in the story, as, besides undergoing many 
miseries in that most disastrous eipedition. Felton 
was one of the Urge batch of oltii^ers who were kept 
waiting for their pay for nearly a year and a half. 
Keltou served in tho C^ix expedition as a lieu- 
tenant in Sir Kdward Cecil's regiment, which waa 
known as the Lord Marshal's regiment, Ceoil being 
I/)rd Marshal of the Army and Ad miral of the Fleet. 
Of the ten resiments emploved in this expedition 
Cecirs was the second. The first regiment waa 
the Duke of Backineham's, commanded in his 
absence by Sir John Proud. All the rvgiments 
(except the Duke's) were composed of eleven com- 
pwie.i, and each company was officered by a cap- 
tain, lieutenant, and ensiKO. The tenth eaptaio 
un the list in Cecil's regiment waa CapL Edward 
L«igh, and the tenth lieutenant waa " ffeiton."* 
Now for my proofs that this ** ffeltoa " was the 
Fotton who asanssinated Buckingham. At the 
Record Otlioe— J). P. Donuitk, CharltA /., Ixriji. 
77, June (f), 1627—18 a list of offioera suggested 
for employmeDt in the Isle of Rhd expwlition. 
Among the perMins named, "John Felton, lien- 
tenant to Capt Lee [sic], who died In Irebknd, is 
a suitor for a company. lie stands in the list 
a lieatenant, but nnw neUtions. Much recom- 
mended by Sit W. Uredale.'' From this extract 
it is quite evident that Felton bad aerred in Ire- 
land, and that bis captain wa^ lately dead. There 
is n letter among the Stale Papers (Domestic 
Tories) from Bir Edward Ceoil (who had been 
created Viscount Wimbledon In November, 1025) 
to Mr. Nicholas, Buckingham's seoreUiry, dated 
May 1, 1637, in which he encloses a list of oflicers 
who hud. come out of Ireland to serve in the Cadiz 
expedition, with the amount of piy stiU due to 
them for their five months' empIoymenL In this 
tilt tho name of 'Mfelton" is found among the 
iieutenante, and it is noted that he bad only re- 
ceived one month's pay, which wu Z\l. Thus had 
this poor anbaltern been kept waiting nearly a 
year and a half for a sum of 84/. This fact speaks 
for itself. A memorandum among the State Panera 
for lt327 (Domestic Scries), endorsed " Nichotaa'a 
minutes of business to be broaght boforo the 

* ?ae a Utt of llie officers miipluycd in the Cntlis ex* 
re-lition in Q\an^\\\t't Journal of At Voy«gtUi Codit in 
Wlh, priiiteJ for tlic Com^eii t^ocjsty. 



84 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 




Coiinoil hy BncIciDF;faam, M117 2," eoDUion the 
followini; intelltgeQce :— 

" There or« here in town nboii f " 
BTld other iifficerx tlnit cititio i< 
of ttio army tbnt r«lumei1 frota ' 

Kent wmtit Aiid do mucU uu|)urtuiie for tlieir ^nT. 'i'li« 
.rd Wimt)lcJoii liftlh (oiit ft U-l of ftll tUrw ')f1ioeni, 
where lie hftih tet down wlist pny •vory one Imlh re- 
ceived, ftod bow much more CTcry ODO i» to liaTc fur Qf e 
months' enter tainmottt" 

On June 27 the fleet, with 6,000 soldiera bound 
for the I»Ie of Rh^, sailed out of Stoken Huy. 
Felton went with it ai na officer in Sir James 
Rftinsay'fl regiment. But ho did not go as a cAp- 
ttkux ; hU petition for prDniotton had been refosed. 
The Spitniflh proverb says, that '* to serve id the 
amiy without promottoa 18 one of the three 
wornt thtngn in life"; but not to be p:ud for one'tt 
Berrioefl is the greatest wrong of all. The promo- 
tion which liuckin^hAiu refuaed to Felton wm 
bestowed bj the duke on one of hia own friends. 
The expedition to the Isle of Rhe "wm as 
diuatrous in its resnlta aa the Oadiz expodition, 
of which it wa^ the counterpart. Tbo bullets of 
the French wmu^^ht sad hnvoe among the Engliih 
troops, and Felton's cuptain was sluin. A^ain did 
FoltoD petition for his prooiotion, which mesnt 
uight shtllinjica a dny pay instead of three, and 
njiaiu he was refused. It is said that when he 
represented to the duke that he bad not the 
means to live, the duke told biro he mij^ht haa^ 
himself if he could not live. This injuttioe caused 
Felton to lenro the army in diaguat. There was 
about 60/. due to htm for bis pay in thi« last ex- 
pedition, bat not a peony coald he R6t» Poverty, 
idlenesii, and a naturally "melanoholiftk nature," 
M Lord Oiftrendon terms it, iiitignified the wrongs 
he liad received at the duke's bo^nds. The litera- 
ture with which he fed bis morbid mind was 
that which painted Buckingham na the greatest 
euemy to bis coimtry. Felton soon beoame pos- 
Bctaea with the idea that be was the instrument 
ohoMen by Qod to rescue his coantry from the 
despot who misKOverned it. la this state of 
fanatic*! enthaiiasm he committed the dark deed. 
Uta bitt«r repentance for hia crime before ho was 
Ljtx'euted affords abundant proof that he was not 
ifimatio of tho ordinary kind, for a real fanatic 
^'wonld have gloried in the aoc to the very end of 
his life. I^t na remember that FeUon died lament* 
ing hia otime and praying for forgiveness. 

rnaRLxa DatTo^r. 
9Sj Wert Cromif ell Road, 8. W. 



OIDUAXTAR F -- - 

The str«eL« of 

F.nt;tikh names, nluLli him , 

niutiDtr on the corner*, ai.i; 

known by the garrison and 



\TURE. 
r»art hear 



!,(ij;njli rt'3MMif,. 



Itat besides these appBllaliuns there are SpaniBb 



namos, wbiob are in dally use amoti^ 

tariann. Many of these data from a , 

to the captare of tho (t^T''-~-' '■• 

may be considered of by. \ 

served in the columns ol ... -- ^^ 

Eo^litb Grst, followed by the Spinisb. WUti 

translation of the Utter : — 

Arenp's Lan«; Callqoa del PkU^Vs Une o 

PsUoe. 
Hell Lado; Callcjon del Laaarclo, Iaao of Lba 

llnowr. 
Uouib llonie lAne ; Cftllojori Oe U Bonil'i, Lane * 

ftomb, ur Puuip. 
Unichctti's Bamp ; EMa1i!ra dol £•!>{«(>, fiUIra 

Thorn. 

Cannon Lane ; Tros U Isliila, B«hlnd the Ohnrck. 
Cantl« Street; Callc doUCuiiicdia, Hlreetafll** Comedy, 

or Thculre. 
City Mill Une ; Callcjon An Curtto MIo. O. 
Civil Uo4('ital Lane ; C»ltf;on di Haii Joan dt 1 

ofSt. Johti of UM. 
Clbi*tcr lUmp; U«II«j'>h del Antigua BaAo, IaB' •> 1 .• 

Ancient Hftth. 
CoriiwaU'i I'armdo; I'Laza de la Verdara, riaoi of (Ik 

Oarden Stuff. 
Church ytrcei; CiMe Ro»l (p«rt oQ. Royal Slr«aL 
CniiTcnt lMac« ; Pinptilito dot CoDVento. 
CoqpcraKe Lane ; Cnllejon do la Gurloia, Laas af Uit 

PKn-, 

Coll - ■ ' V • 

Cn. ■ 

Doi, i ,.■.!■ 

DiDiiiu't i'liico; i'Ktio de lot Ca)>iiU«i c«, 

KiuKbt« 
l^n^neer Lane ; Calle d« tot Cordoneroa, Street of 1 

iiiBkers. 
Eiohimye Plate, i-^r C.>mmOFoif\l Sri)iar«j PI«c»J 

Mnrttllo. PUr 
Pla: IU«ti. m U 1 ■'. P»tliorU)« i 

1J>>»r|ro l^ni! ; i ...^ i .. ; .. ■.; . -, ^lr#ftt ul Ilia Vti 
(jijvTriiorV tilrcet; C'He ile tos Cordliieroa. 

yiiticinakrre. 
Governor's Lan'' 

(ioTumor'ti P»r.i 1 ry j 

dtmneia* L»a« . ' 

IlarKraro'c I'ltrade ; Pia^tilik lU iwain 

of [^nt(inocrf. 
noroB DuTnck Lone: Patio del T " ' 

Catalan, 
Ilotpiinl Ramp ; Kioal<iro d«t 1 ' 

Uoipital. 
frUn Town : Culle do S^tita AAo. 
Kirr'^''" • ^'-'v:-*! ^9U Paloma, Unf af (1i« Pna 
Kii 'lOc-ndel Uwmo dot lUj, Ism** 

Lat, 
M- 

Ma- - .-' v.. I..nfc,f r.r 

V 

Ncv 

f>l'i ■ 

ParliauiciiL i>an«, CaUfJtOi d« 



; PI 



'l4la dol Tu' 



ivdel DiAMn, pn 



I'r.iur I.<^lJ(^lA ilomj;; Ca:4la ^Ic Cu'tw 
Carlo Al&rio. 




NOTES AND QUERIES. 




85 



frtnoc Ktfirftrd't Ro«4 ; Ciimiao M Prinripc. 
llforaterT'a l«aoc ; Qtllrjon (let AUal\lej Idmo of tlie 

t oO. 

i. Barmck Street. 

n tlcl Jiirr". Liiifl or tlio Jar. 
. .19 ila lijft Cu&ito9, Ocliind Ui4 

tn»litnff (•fflce Luie ; CiiUtj«n de rercgtl, L%m or 

TrsiMV'"''^ ; roertft de U M«r. 
Wft!«ct.orl Sirwit; C.llrt Kesl (p4rt of). 

It mKr bfl roniarlcetl ihtt when lh« British op- 
Inrcd Gibraltnr the city conatBtM of tiro long 
p4ndlet »tr*el«, ninniiig north anil floulli, which 
w«r» CAon^oUd by a nnubcr of smaller streeU or 
Waw. One of Ih*^ Ktrf<oti encoded from the 
lAod Fort to thi> South Port, &nd waaMlled CaIIo 
jt^^i i» ,.,^— beari foar EDgiiih naniM Jn dif- 
im \ Waterport Street, M..in Street, 

Ob' . »nd B-nUh Purt Street. The other 

gr* ' mta Aii*, is now called rri*h Town, 

» f : -n of ita somhorn eitretuity beiny 

n»mc»d Market Street. The city was anciently 
dirided into tlireo di.ilioot parts, enclosed with 
villi^ (he gates of which were closed Kt night. 
On« WM called VilU \'iej« (the old town), 
ftnd stood on ths present Ciuenient Purtde— 
Ititi appears to hiiTe been the port &nd buoiufss 
portioo of the phico. The aeoond district was 
mmed iha Barcina, and extended from the Ciille 
g,^j,f., «... ^_ .... IX • ■-..-^rda the Moorish Caatle. 
he ^ of the Ari«tocr&cy nnd 

of i;- 1 -i .i ■> iiitf. The third portion, 

Li Tiirb.% hiy to lh& poiith of the Old Al-iniifda, 
wiiitili *jui lb<« tJnmd P.iriide of iho lait ciilury, 
fiH Conimeretnl Bqtinre of to-dny. Its 
■ u wi*ro thi? hni pnltai of the city, its hewers 
vi wood and drawers of water, and the word 
il»«lf st^ifiM " the crowd." As to the doriration 
ol Ui« narvf of tti« other district, hi B»rctuu, I 
DUi say bothtn^', eToopt- thn*- tbu word ia ;?pituisb 
L meuu A sndije-net or n trii>^.i of straw. 

Acolbrr word that pii/jili>>l mo for some limo 
•%M fpvtn ft» " ■■ r Con»<int PIacp. This 

Ivonl w»* '* r Ip," and I was informed 

I'bj aiT Gibrwti ■. : ttiat it was an E'luliah 

Imras. Aft^ a little ptlient revoarch I found 
[tlut • w-rll known tavrrn was fnrnierly kepi at 
|l^ hattd of Onnrnnt Plnco, nnd was called the 
I" Oadc and BnUle/ and fr^m this name the my<- 
ItmAtta word "Coqtierabotflte" was erolvcd by 

llkrtfc*'iT#«. R, eT»W.MlT PATTK8S0». 

UaU CrMoeBt, Faniham, Surrejr. 



^ Allow roe to ret(i«ter in 

of a reninrkabV alip by 

''0 to itn onfortunatA 

' BOth'TJiy, cfL<«ily 

lU.r. jr.. ..;;,-,....[ |■•l.llish*^l in Iii« Loidu 

He h copy of the charter granted to the 



i>org&iaes of h^fU in iSuH, nnd thus (p. ft) 
(fives one of the c)an<i>a of privilejje, "Nulla 
ftrminA dtibit con*iiet(idineni in bur^'O no«tro pro 
grrvieio vendendii,'' which ho tranalotM (p. l\\ 
"No woman ""htdl pay ctr^tom in our borough who 
u to be told intf) gl'nyry"\ adding •"« n foot-note, 
" A very liberal cnnocMion truly ! If a free 
woman sold herself (far such must be the meaoin, 
of the wordsj as a slave, the lord graciously r*-c1 
niittcil the toll due on anch a trnnsaction." Dr,* 
\Vhiljtlii<r thus sanctions the opinion that In th« 
thirteenth contnry nn Kn;;liitliwomna cotild wll 
herself a^ a sUre. But whiU yvn% the fact? The 
privileges of Leeils gmnted by Mnnrice Padnn 
in 120H were distioctty sniil lo be thoi«« enjoyr 
by the buri^eflses of Roger de Lacy st Pootopt 
gmntpd in Il!)l. And if there was any doabt 
to whntthoflflprivile^'es were, what would hare beeit 
ea-*irr than for Dr. VVhitnker to have consulted 
the Pontefmcl charter, still in existence here. Tha 
words of De Lacy'a charter are " Pro en-evitutt 
vcndendo," for selling beer; and the unfortunate 
mib?litnlion of "servitio" for cfrrruia occasioned 
thi^ ludicrous blunder. I shall bo obliged to any of 
your readers who will inform me if this perversion 
has hitherto been pointed out, and where. 

This reminds me of aoothcr singular mistake of 
the learned doctor, the correction of which is on 
rcponl In the same Loiiiit nnd Elmeitf'p. S19, 
when depcribinjj "The Yorkshire Tragedy," ha 
adds, " Rnppr iJmlnworth, who saw the ezecutioo, 
niHrmRthnt Mr. Onlverly wn*inprie^tVordern,whichji 
119 he was the eldear nun, is highly improbable. 
But Dodfiworlh myn (vol. oIt. fo. 53), " I saw hloi 
I'xi-cuteil in primo Jtirobi ; he was jtrwt," refusing 
to plead, in order to save his estateo. 

R. H. HoLMva. 

Punlofrnot. 

HPOH StNCLKTOM, THE PRINTBR OF SprMSItR'S 

" SiiKfHKAKDKS Cai,rndar."— Dr. GroKirt, in hta 
rnoKt valunble and interesting Li/f nf Sp*ni«iF 
(printed for private circulation, 1882-4), writes: — 
" It is iiircly of th« deepent lnl«rest to know that this 
Unzh HinKlrt'^n wai a fmncaihira man. flc was mr, 
mem' er of n fumily wliich d«i ived it* vurnBme from thar 
loutrjiahire tow()*liips of Grr^t and Little SinKlet'inMn* 
ibo KjlJp, iit.fti- Prtffton Tltcr<r were icTcn»I branchci 
of tlo Sineletona In tlie sittfifnth c^nturjr. Ons of ttifsa 
Wttn tlie J'ini'lctjin" if Slwirnnif. n hnmlrt \n tlie pariah of 
I'lmtron in the Fvhle. In tlic '.uiM R>.U of Pre-rton for ] 
Ido fJui'd Mprohani— a wellknonfii U'Cni et-lel>mtii>n— of J 
1542, «inor.(t9t ttio Kurfcer«f« «pp<uir ' G«ori:« Slnctetoni'' 
0«nl.,' • WilliPtm SiriRtelon hliton,' *n»l ' Uujfh Sinuletaitf'j 
Ills [^^'i'I' ' :licr.' Iluuh Sint:Ie(oniT»ji tlio iocimj < 

ton of ' 'Mil, lieiit.. fif St'inirifT nn>l 'n^a only ' 

a you'll >r Ijo Itail ynun^'pr brotliers. Rirhnrd.l 

nnd l.aiir'-iiCQ, U<-in Aflcr that <!ato At t)>Q Prettaik < 

(itiiM .Mi>rrlii»itt of ir>tI2 Ifiieli 8irigUti>n hsidiiappearej' 
frud tlio R"'i of Kuru'jve*, IhoMjt'i li'« two siirviTingl 
l'r>>tliprii atid hi* fnur 'Cplicw.vons of William ri«rf>a>eii, 
wers then cnrvltol. This dipappesnitice nf HurIi [*in|*l»a 
ton it expUintd hy the fact tlutt ho had left Lanoastilra 
and ' tetlled* In London." 



86 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



Itpfcax. Aw.t' 



WhiUc I qaite tmne with Dr. Grosart tbiit Hugh 
SiDj;Ietoa was a Lttocaihire mnn (or, at least, a. 
desceodant of one of tLe Sinjilctons of that county), 
I am in a posilioa lo prove thiit ihu prinlcr of tlio 
Shcphiardis CaUndar was not the son of George 
Singleton, of Staining. 

Accordiof; to Dngdale's ViiiUiUon io 16G4-5, 
HuKh Sijij^IetoQ, the eon of George Singleton, of 
Stainint;, mnrned Mury, the Ktsltir and coheir of 
WiJIinni Carleton, of Carletoii (a jwwerfiil locnl 
fauiiljr). and hiul issue a eon, William. On 
Jan. 36, lJJ57/d, an iofi. post mori:. wa4 taken at 
Wij;aD on the deaili of Luurenoe Cirlelon f»oa of 
"William Carleton above named), and from this it 
appears LhaC ho wai xei«ed of Citrleton Hallj and 
that by charter, dated June 20, UiS-}, he had 
granted the Mime to certain trustee*, who were to 
hold it in truBt to certain u«"<, with remainder 
to H'iMiam HingUUm, ion of lifigK Sin/fUtajtt 
cUr-fiUtd. In a cane tried in the duchy cnnrt Id 
lfi52;3, wherein John SincIetou,theiion of William 
SiD>;1elon, the eldeat brother of HuKh, win defend- 
ant, the subject in dispute being Carleton Hall, the 
fact that both Hugh Sinsleton and William bis son 
were then dead i^ fully «et forth. 

The Shepheardct CuUwlar was printed in 167D, 
but IIti>;h Singleton waa dead before ITj^T/B, 
Early iu the ecveoteenth century there wna a 
Hugh Singleton liTing at a farm cdled Whit- 
holoie, iu PoultoD-Ie-Fylde. Powibly Spenser's 
printer may have been of tbia branch of the family. 

deferring to p. 483 of Dr. Orosart'v volume, I 
may say that the John Tmver« whoae wife wag 
Sarah Spenaer (the poet's sister) was the son of 
Brian Travers, of Pille, in the parish of Bi^hop- 
TawtoD, in the county of p£von, and that no con- 
nexion has been traced between this and the 
Lancasbire family of ihe same mime. 

H. FiSHWicK, F.S.JL 

OnsoLKTKWoRna FROM THE TiiKLAWST Papers. 
(Sec 6^ S. ix. 246, 405, 478; x. 14, 20.)— "Our 
bootcs Roods will lo^t but for next fishinge 
scaaoD."— A boal'a rood was a small rope used for 
inoorin; a boat, and eccus to have been derived 
from the A. -8, rtul, nwd, ready, preparatory. 

"61. portledge." — The word sigoifiea the amount 
of a sailor's wages for a voyagft. 

In one letter it is mentioned that men were 
nec'leil lo maFnirelhe land, meaning to cultivate or 
haiidtP,irL the lund. Cf. Fr. vutnauvrc The word 
was uaed at thU time io the seme of to oultivile: 
"Had Ihey duly vmuurrd [cultivated] those 6rst 
pmetiea] notions and dictate^ of right renion" 
(South). 

*' 8om brood Cloth that they tooke in tninlte.'*— 
Skrnt tells ns that the origin of (nek is un- 
known, but cites tbe French tro'iurr and Spanbh 
trotar, to «wap or barter, wbioli u the moaoiog 



r or oi^H 
a on ^H 



ac^H 
ho^H 

ir«fof 

Finger- 
some* 
ledl^ 

whiSn 



" 1 Barvil."— Thia ia an apron of leather < 
clotb, and ii still nsed by the Bshermen 
coast of Maine, wberv ik retains ita old 
barvel. 

*' 40 yards of good doulis." — Thii WM 
linen manufactured in Brittany. 

" A firkine of gray sope and 3 or 4 Eanifl 
for to make Cbesc." — Orejr soap was one of . 
famous prodocttona of Bristol, its manafact, 
diitinff from a very early period. The aulhol 
EnglUh Worthict says that it was aocienily 
only in this city. " Banlngei" ia Deronsbir* fot 
renntt, 

" 20 pair of halings hands." — TheM were finger- 
leu gloves, usually of coarse yarn, tbe palmi some* 
times fortified with leather. They are sttU used bf 
tisbermeu to protect their bands when lwu"~ 
(heir lines. 

*' 1 sUrdell of 401 yards of CJap Oloth.*— 1 
word starddl has reference to the boant upon whu 
the cloth was wound. 

*' A Rcmlolt of aope.** — Devonahire for r«mmiaC 

" Sbc hath twizo gon a-mechtnge in the wooden* 
— That i*, she bath twice gone a-biding in thft 
woods, Tbe word mithe is still used in this acnasi. 
Shakespeare uses it tbus : "Shall the bleaaed sua 
of heaven prove a mkher and ent blockberrlM I " 

''The Huh will dum rather in the hoase than o«U 
of doores."— The word dnm is still iir.casioDiIly 
heard in the provinces and along tbe Main* coast. 
It ligniftea that the Oah will turn dark and mildew 
for want of sunshine. Tbe etymology of lb* worf 
seems to have reference io turning dark or din- 
coloration. Dnmpt is in dialectal uie for twilijEht, 
and dufn& for darkness of colour. Thus Vtfpt: 
" Her item was painted a dumb wbll« or dua 
colour," 

'* New oomnas of course nowoUo.** — NomlU wtn 
short, coarse threads, or waste, put into cloth to 
increoso its thickness. By statute Jae. I. c IS 
this was prohibited: "No penon shaU put wy 
noylt*, thrums, &c, or other deeeivaUe thing, iftia 
any broad woolen cloth." 

'*6 Uoad pannes." — These wore con' 
The word is from A.-S- md, and ■ 
colour of the pans, red. The priocip%l mucVj m 
in HlutTardihtre. Jambs Pnix^Kr BaXT«n.| 

ForllBtiJ. Mains. U.S. 

"Esousn as Sbk a SroKt"— The fr-HoB 
verbatim copy of a circubkr twut lo 
town a few weeks ago, seems too g<:. 
eluded from "N. &Q.":— 

" Sir,— Tits Vienna L«K«r V«a»t PHrtArf H 

inveiitiun Ly whicli to ' "_ 

Y'«.t Fiir voniQ jr<nir» . 
of tlollKntl (•„ l.nrW, '. » I 

•o w«l'. nor 
tliB Unilwuv. 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



87 






Yeut If Mk pment but little, trat It can jcraw tnan. 

Wlivo » firai c»n be foand wlio flittll but; lUelf vrilb the 

tntrwlii(Tti(in nf Iajcct Yot»t in EnijUnd, ihc will no 

jiloabt 'itiltc d^tfoy tti« Hollniitl Yvait l)y r«Mnn of Iter 

|gT**t aio-il an 1 force, .. .^Vlien niir n^le groirt to 

I CTkte* wtfcklj wa can land no more " ! 

BhcffltflJ. 

A DiATn WjiIINivo.— When blossom and Trait 
Appear at on« and tho fliiue time on one nod the 
uma tree, no matter what kind of troo it is, this 
fact U a ceruia nign that aome one in the house' 
hold to which the tree belon;^ >*< about to die. 
My informant, a (MiuforLabU housekeeper and an 
eame*! Pror«aiant, knows of three such cases within 
thQ lost scTen yean. Oae is the case of "our 
Jim,* in whoso Siilopiao gardra the pbenotneDoo 
appeared, and hiR Utile boy, then perfectly well, 
•tmiKditwriy fell iU and died. Another is the casie 
of an iarUpendeot ladj in the earae county, who 
perished from a like caa«6, thoii|;h, indeed, %he 
was niliDg when it happened. And in the third 
(Aie our Polly's tat^treas sickened and died, as all 
the neighboars know, in SutToIk, entirely through 
the abaormal condact of a crael cherry tree. 

A. J. M. 

P -M., OR PnorsHSED, Beauties. — I 

tho I --'icriptioo of certain fair creatures, 

mach iu V0^U0 a short time ago, as " profesaionnl 
beialie:« " had beea one of entirely modern inren- 
tioQ. Bappeoini;, however, to turn orer some of 
the oorahen of tho Spectator a few days ago, I 
light ' - fhe following: — " I shall recommend 
(he xtract out of a friend's letter to the 

';«*, who are a people almost as oo- 
I as the professed wits" {Sptrtat(»; 
._, A^__. 7, 1711). IL K. 



r*B r 



W« ttiiiti rroiAitedrrARpondsritjKlaairing information 
-) of only iirlmte inleroet, to sfflx their 
:: : :MM to their queries, in or<icr that the 

met* m»j m ul(lr*M«<l to them direct. 



Th« DoDfiwnnTn MSS— It U probably well 

[knotm to those who have madu much use of this 

raltiable collection thiit their present arrangement 

is noc that which the author intended, or which 

cnrre4p'~>Dils with the cham':Ler of the contents; 

hot tnat, partly for convenipnce of binding two 

or more- rc\-nwp-, tn^jpthcr and partly from a luis- 

apfi' nent has been altogether 

I rrt L-rences from ouch collec- 

■ l.arlttuti (p«rtioal«rly 7l»7 to S04) 

I .'^: it to Dtiod. Ou examining his 

^HMi A Toliimo of the fint quarto 

^^^■r s\ U6 —there will be found 

^HRFu.'- Ti< - I- iw-t :i( the coiumencenient a series 

^■of iDcutorandaiai of borrowiogs by Dr. Katluiniel 



Johnston, from Lord Fairfax, of parcels of the 
Totumes a« then disliDgui«hed by Dodawortb's let- 
teringv Dr. Jobnitoa'a borrowings !>eem Lo have 
consisted of (I) the roluuies A to F; (S] those 
lettered G to N. omitting M; (3) O to Y, omit- 
tini! P tnd X; (4> A\ to KK; (!>) the rest of thaSi 
series and M, P, and X, which for some reason ' 
had not been borrowed with borroffing;s (2) and (3). 
Now. what I wiih to onll attenttoa to is the fact 
that Dr. Johnston never returned these last three 
volumes (M, P, aud X}, but that M came into the 
library after the present numberiflg was cora-^ 
ploted, lo thnt it now appeara as toI. IGO; and'l 
ihnt still later vol. in was ''presented to the 
library " by Dr. Francis Drake (Eboracum), in 
1736. It is now numbered 161. P, howerer, 
fieems not to have been returned by any one. It 
was a ipiarto, apparently about an inch and a 
half thick, and, to judge from its position in the 
series, would have been a " misoellaDcous collec- 
tion." It is possible that, like M and X, it passed 
out of Dr. Johnston's ponession and was ore^^ 
looked at the dispersion of his property, and that, 
like them, it may be reco7cre<l if special inquiry 
is made abont it. Can any of your readers throw 
light on iu fate ? R. H. H. 

I'ontefraet, 

William Lakolet.— Prof. Skeat seems to be 
conTiDced by the arguments of Prof. Pearsoo that 
the author of Futa (he Plownum waa Langley, 
nod not Laogland (Clar. Press Series}, mainly, 
t conceive, because Liiogland was not a name 
peculiar to the Midland Counties. But if the 
iitithor was too humble to be ranked with the 
Liugleys of Wychwood, he was also too humble 
for the Lsngleyi of Salop, as they are most pro- ! 
t»ably of the same stock—" the Lees or Leigbs oCJ 
Langley.'* The Bornel de Langley family took! 
this title on the marriage of Roger Lee de Langley' 
with Joed, daughter of Edward Burnel, who died 
1 Henry IV., holding threo parts of the manor 
of Lingley, with the advowson of the chapel of 
Rokele. It is well known thnt at this period 
huabandi took the names of their wives — c. jr« 
John Segrnve, alia* De Norwich, aiiai Brother- 
ton — and nUo of their various estates, bo that 
Roger Leo may have assumed the mimes Burnel 
and Rokele; and it is moat probitble that William 
de Langley, 1228 (Introd. p. xvi), was an ancestof i 
of this family of Lees or I^ighs, and not a depen- 
dent of the Burnel family. The Leigha had for 
tbeir seal ten billets; and their crest was a trunk 
of a tree vert, with a squirrel gulea sitting thereon, 
browaiag on a uut-branch proper, which sets forth 
the calling of a forester. The Oxford and Salop 
Lani;ley8 Iwive an additional proof of connexion 
in the constant une nf Robert and Thomas for their 
names between 1200 and 14(H>; and both families 
come into historical notice at the same pencA — 
Tho3. Langley of Wychwooi Vi\\ VJt^v:^^ 



88 



NOTES AND QUEBIES. 



[Wi-B. X.Aco.2, 



Ijco de L-inBley 1250. It is curious to notico 
that tbe Linglojti of Torkshire are connected willi 
the Kuckleyi of the same county; and alno that, 
there were R>bert PsirtericV, father, iind his son, 
Robert Pnrtcriuk, both butcht^ra C'ltrod. p. xvii), 
HOO. who were beoefyictors to l!ie parish churoh 
of St. Mary \V'yo<l bridge. What rwfertnre in 
HAedAd to see the stuteuient of Bale in his firilish 
Auttwrt, 1867? V. B. Ekdstosb. 

Bbqinald Wrst, RiXTn Lono de la Warr 
gpKHCr. — ReginiilJ West, fifth Biron Wwt 
_|d sixth B;»ron de U Wurr (lor.1 uf the 
manor of Manchfr^ter), iiiurried AUouora Percy, 
d»U({hter of » Henry Ptrry, who in most 
printed podiKrces i^ called Etrt of NorthuinlM!r- 
laodi and who it) u^ucrally i>]eulifii'd with 
the Moond Eiirl of Korlhumberlaud. Cullius's 



P«*ray.((18l2. vol. ii. p. i; 
wife of L<'ird We»<t to he Mi 
Mrl — n pore ah^iinlity. Tiiui tliirJ e.ni liJC-lJ 
1461, icttring an infiint Bon, wbprpfls a wn off 
West wat born as eiirty va HSS: in fai 
Went WAB born long before the third e»rl i 
Oo© of your courtefiiitt Imiy cnrn^iiprtnd^ 
whom r hiive written on the subject, %Ay% f 
poftiiible thnt Lmly We^t should be tbe diu 
ihc Grst earl ; further, that it is (nl l«a 
improbable that her fnther was the aecofi 
hut that your correspondeot is of optniun that 1 
Hunry Porcy in rjufstioii was none othar tt 
Qutftpur, son of tbe first and father of the accoa 
catL T will try to summuriie your ^*iid cin* 
xpondoDC'a arguments, uud will tir 
|H*4]t|*ree ucoumiutnyiuu ber n»te>t, aii<. 
KULuorilies of ibe higbeat order; — 



Benry Pcrcj, fir0t=AUannni. ux.^MftTcnrst. f. R*Mi dc Nr'Ttllr; niir,=Mn(id, tiatt. nn'1 rvcntusl litlr rf Ti„ 
•srl.«tCv<uty-iiK ilt^ari(<i,l»45 |1) Will, .li: B'>«.13-')&; (3) mRr.eou* ImtA Lucy, b. l»i:t-&.ii:' 
43 £(1. 111. (JU)i. Pali tract Oct. 2u,m8; d. 1S72, 4,;>.,bercoualal>i!int;reiur' 

Hfltiry Utliptirsy^Klili^t-th. f. E'di 0"r>' Miircli'io, 
Lonl Peicy. b. 1871 iPo^tr-n nrl375 (Nicholi). 
[Mother died Deo, IttTT.J 



Hcorr, »' eODJsiiAllininr*, f. lU'.Il 1 Com' Wntmorelttnl. V (al earUest pr''^K«blp)J4l>I. [Parents mar. 
Elu-I. I>etw«en Nov. 20. iSlttt. nix) F«b. 13. iai>7 : brother lUoh«rU iwu \m. >u.d aUur 

I Kailieritio aluiusi ecttaluly Uia oldeit cbilJ.] 



Had Alianora been the djiuyhtpr of tho first enrl, 
she must have been, if by his first wife, Ibirry- 
aeven, or if by his second, at least twoiity-twu 
years older than her husband. She cnnnot bnve 
been tbe dAUt^fater of liia third wife, or ulic would 
hare succeeded her mother in iho Imcv ej»tatejf. 

If Alinnora's father were tbe seouud enrl. her 
mother must have been tlie eldest cbiM of her 
parents— which it was almost ocrtain ahe was not 
— and she could only evoa then be eifjhtcen at 
her daughter's birth; and AlianoM mu9t have 
been at least twenty ydiiri younger than her bus- 
band (a very anusual thiDg at that timo), and at 
most only seventeen years older thau lior son. 
Lord Wwt was born in IKJl; Richard, his son 
ttud Eucceftsnr, iu 1J3S. I should bo obliged by 
whulevL-r light your correspondents Ciin Lhruw ou 
the (juenliou, Who was the neiiry Pcn^y, father 
of AUatioru, Lady West and Li Wurr I ' Tibi. 

I8c»a'>'S.ix.2'j7,::&(j.] 

Dkattt ov Sir Ct.<^nDK«i,KT Sn-iTM* — Tn 
the Pall Midi a.izeUe of July 10 the dale of 8ir 
Cloude^lcy SIioyuI's death is pifcn as Ooif'^'"'' 
1707. Tbi» i» the date jfivrn in fJuydnS ' 

tionmy vf Bififfrrrphy; but in Ctiniii'. r->N R 

2>ay*. yoL ir, i i in The .^ 

n, fl64, h* i» t buying j 

L -r, 1703. Wbtch of iii4«> 



AoMrriAi. StR SinxKT Suitu was bom ts 
WcBluiin4ler In 1765. T\wn are two Htb» of 
hiui, one by Barrow, aootlivr by Howard. Pom 
either give the hon*e in which he was Iwni 1 (*r, 
indcppndenily, fnrae re.idcr of "N. & y.^mayo' 
his own knowtctl<;e be able to name Itv 

C. A. Waho. 

n»Yer)(«ck Hill. 

Old KiiKKcii Cap 
favour nie with tbo • 
and any ollik-r pftrLwii.ir- m 
Frtfuch QiricAiiirea (doubtlti«a en 
I iiiny describe as fitllnws, vir 
uiunilcr, with man's hrud cro^^ 
on cniwn: '■^■■' f— i '"-^ i"''" 
trophy of ; 
onbnck, ti' 

•'Co nmn»tr« inarin a (iiireu, nl n ■ 
mh- I>itU:t-.^cTio par Icjtipl n fait 



...: Cfll 
:nall cuaoB' 

". v^ili^tia 



>>iUr wUh ttititnnia) 
•ii A child; til 



•»8.X.An.%'g4.) 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



89 



I 



* 



* Dtai^i it grnTd clapr^'f loniinnl mMm« (k Tinuooo 
91 pnrrtaeti «tle fiut dtOm'itt par 8** Marthra avcQ Ib 
§t9wimioa d« diou, »lla dtvortt toos l«a Eafuiti qa6lla 
Lpowoit ktnppAr i-t b£«uooop dautru pdrMonei." 

j-]stUr ouly befin tlie pabU^ber's n&me, tbu8> 
fPirw. Chez F»UT^." 

B.. MokTOH MlDOLSTON, JoO. 

InrsxTiosi or Alcohol. — 

*A cbynciftn of Uie tliirtreritli caiiUir/, AmoM of 

Tlltn NiT*. is *ttid to tikvo l)een the firtt peiinnwho telU 

' nn intt-xicntitift iiiiric could bo obtainod 

:i of fviiic. 11'! Kami to bavo confiitcred 

^^. •• > .....ovcry. til* ditoiplD Raymond Lulljr 

papul*n»d liifi iuutcr'#kno»IciIt;e coi)lidt:rtt,..,..tl)at 

U>'>* nc** Qti'-J Wfia tbe imivi.-isiil medicine iluttiued tu 

iRft'-' . I':iorniA<i'i dourepit rsco." — E. Peacock 

) <* ' ■ i" la tbo ArcfuxQtogititl /oMrnal for 

tsUrc . ., I. 

Wbat foundation is there for these stAtementFi f 

J. fil. 

PoBTBAiTa OP Pirr.— CsD any of joiir renden 
HriL" ' ' ■ by pivinK ma Iho wbereitbouta of 
My -viDg pottniitH of the yoiinuer Pitlf 

177.'. j'l.i.wng by II. K. Sberwia of Lord Chnt- 
hzm's illne-si in (tie Houno of Lords. (£Q;2ravcd.) 

1794 aiid 1799. Two urayoa drawing* by S. de 
Ko5it«r. fKnffritvci!.) 

17»5. By HicktI. (Zngmred.) 

17— 0). Pictura by Hickel of Pitt ia the Houae 
of Com mo Di. with uLb«r portruiu. 

1797. Hy \V. Miller. (Eograred.) 

3709. By W. Owen. (KDRtiiTed.) 

171>J). Fall lengtli by Sir K. Ker Porter. (Ea- 
grared.) 

1801. Drawing by H. Edridge, (Eogrttred.) 

E. 8. 
2S, BmIccUmi Square, S.W. 

AJLHAiTAce.— Can any of your reftdera tell nic 
how to find ibe ahnouucs in the British Mukquiu 
Library? 1 am well aware that I must seitrcb in 
IbA catjJogne under " EpbeuierideB," but the 
Tolumcs %o endorsed afford nto no help in fiDdin^ 
rt-gular commoD Britieth ulu)anac!i tn stquenci. 
are mixed np auylhiug ralhcr than cbrono- 
'ly, and under vurious nnme!!, so that unlois 
loowH the name of ibe compiler, or perhaps 
bli<bcr, it ia almost imposiaible to find an 
,c for the year required. No general 
ar or secular almanac for Hading dates at 
fcoy period will aoiwcr my purpose. Say, for 
buktancef ibat I waut the series of actuul almanacs 
rxlcoding during; the last quarters of the sixteenth 
and seveiilitnlli ccnturie*, tx. gr., year by year 
frfim 1670 to 1CW\ 1675 lo 1700, under what 
h»Ad am I to search for them t K&xo. 




Bohkrt BnssLur held a commission as liou- 
rlvoiint or marines 176-, and i» H»id to have fought 
ia Aiucrici. In 1765 he appeared on the st^^e, 
;from wlucU he retired in 1796. ^abaeqaontly ho 



ii said to hare been barrack- master at Koii^his- 
bridge Barracks. Any information coucuming 
his career previous to bis appearing on the stage, 
and subsequent to his quitting it, especially dat« 
of birth| of commission, of appointment as barrack- 
master, dtc, and of death, will greatly oblige, 

Urbav. 

Massivoer Queries. — On what authority resU 
the statement of Hartley Coleridge that Masaingpr 
wrote nothing ia proee I What is the origin of tbo 
nhnuo " Geneva print ** in Tht Bondman. T. i, 13 ? 

K. D. 

Ualb and County Club, Bath, 

"Spring Captaiit." — What are the mcanlog 
and origin of this phrase, employed by Thuckeraj 
apparently in a cont<imptuoufl aenso I C, F. 

8, St. Mary's Koad, W. 

"LuxDoRpaiAHA i: pLAToitB," Hftunlw, 1790. 
— Where can I find an Knulii>b tran^liUion of the 
nbovo Work ou Piato by Luxdorf i Th« British 
Museum does not contaiD one. Will " N. & Q," 
come to my assistance! B. 

[No translation of a'ty work of Luxdorf has, we 
lOvc, appeared in BagUud.] 

BiTTS. — How camo the Earl of Bute (Minister of 
George lU.) to be interred at Stanford Hirers, ia 
EsMx? K H. Busk. 

Marriage op Pupts. — Can any one inform 
Die upon wh.-it auLhority the date of the marriugo 
of Samuel Pepys is stated by Lord Braybrooke 
as October, lG8>*d, and by the Athtnaum (1848, 
p. fi6l) as Decciiibor 1 ? OavOHD AiRT. 

&0, Uagloy Road, Birmingham. 



LEONARDO DA VIKCT'S PAINTING OF " THE 
LASr SUPPER." 
(C" S. ix. CU7.) 
At the Ume when Domonico Pino, Prior of 
Sto. Maria dollo Grozie, at Milan, wrote his 
Aorta Ge»utNa iltl Cmacolo iiuigne dipinto 
da Leonardo dti Vhici, at the end of the last 
century, the order in which the apostles are 
placed in the picture seems to have been quite 
undetermined. lie says that for all bis searching 
he could fiod no sort of documentary or other 
certain ovideuoe about it, but ho gives a tradition 
from " the learned librarian of the oouvcdc," 
though expressly abataming from voucbfng for its 
authority. It varies in so many instonoes from 
what now appears to bo the indisputably correct 
version that it is airious to peruse it. Of course 
there ia no question that the three spoatlee next 
our Lord on bis right are St. John, Judos, and SU 
Peter ; but next to St. Peter he places St, Bartho- 
loDiew, becftOae the said librarian thought he oonld 



go 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



•*>&XAtrL&*< 



dticern fome funt remains of his DAtne on Ibe 
edge of hifl garment. The next is, of course, B«ea 
to be St. James the L«8s by hiB likeness to Christ, 
and the Uat he considers to be Thaddeue or Jude. 
Then he goes on : " The flr^t on the left of OhrUt 
if poeitively Thomas, faecAUse ' si l^g^o tat.tATtA 11 
nome nell' orlo dell& rests.' " Now, it i» not very 
clear whit is intended by "the first on the 
left of Christ," because the apostle who la his 
eftmestness has risen from his seat (while the 
others have stretched forward so as to leave him 
no plac« at table), and has tbns come clove to the 
Saviour, is not Che one soated neit to Christ, nor. 
therefore, the one the librarian probably iotended 
to desi^oate. Nevertheless, it is he who is now 
considered to be Thomss. 

"The secouil is pruli&bly Andrew, beoauu aliglitly 
like Peter, hi* brother; tUe thirJ. Simun ; tUs fu'.irtli, 
Matthew, beonurn he h«s the reaolnto mitnncr nliidi 
woultlbeobsmcterUtioararecolvflrorotuUtm*; the nrtU, 
Fhi'ifi : Ahd tbc ■■xtli, Jftmei the Qremt, a« be wesrs tli« 
Vf-ji^ ia£rrtlnln!i, which become hiscbftrsater of Biahop 
vf JtttuMlcm." 

There is^ however, now, at all events, notbtng to 
distiof^JBh bis dros? from that of the others. 

Giosepps Bosai, thw Milanese psinter who, early 
in the preaeut contury, was commissioned to exe- 
cute an oil cnpy from which to work the large 
tnosaic reproduction now at Vienna, was an 
nrdent worshipper of Leonardo, and set about his 
iinderUkinii; with much earoeit study, the remit 
of which he has Kivsn to the world in his highly 
intorestinK and exbauative treatise Dd dnaeolo di 
L<onaTilu ilu Viiui, fittiDi; a largo quarto volume. 
Befuro s^litog to work on his own, he tboroaghty 
examined more than twenty principsl copies which 
had been made within two biinJred years of the 
origianl pitintin^f. In one of tbene — that in the 
convent uf Poiitc Csprissoai execated in loe."* — 
be observed that the names of the apostles wore 
written on the borders of their dresses, and he 
devotes the whole of the second book of his work 
10 showing bow well the delineation suits what is 
kn'^wn or can be inferred of the character of each. 
Or. Sigbart, in bis monof^raph on the origin il 
.TayoD studies for tbo beads of the apostles, now 
t Weiinnr, points out that this order exactly 
lilies with Leonardo's own desii^nation of them 
u his drawiotcs, mid may be taken as good evi- 
dence of his iuteotion. Piccoui adopted it. and it 
has since hfen copied, T betifve, into most modern 
manuals iiud euide-books. It is aa follows : — 

St. Joba iit4 on the ri^bt bund of (.^irisl, aod 
rezt btm Jufl!i» iwh-* hxs tiow no »alt-cflli>r iirrHf^r 
his elbow): '■ '' ler, who has risen to i. 

to th0 belt ' • to Icsru the truth • 

t. i, ". . .^ . . , 



KTonp on this side of tfas table belns j 
at, Andrew, St. James the Lw? — s:- 
our Lord in couDi^'nttice — with his hMm ntj t i 
shoulder, nrgin^ him to prompt Sl John, aad, I 
St. Thomu on the opposite side, aluioit left wtl 
out a place at table, aod St. Bartholomeir, 
ocoapiea tha returned end of the table. Th* pb _ 
next oar Loid on bis left band is oocaptea by 
tit. Jsmes the Oreat, with hta arms oatapmad ; 
St. Thomas, who, as described above, has atmou 
risen to his feet and with raised foreSnjter menaces 
the truitor,* comes next ; and thun St. PbiUp, his 
hands mi^fttin^ on bis breast. The last k'^^P '^^' 
sista of SS. Matthew, Jade, and Simon, oeoup^^H 
the roturaed end of the tible, the oomipond^^| 
plice to that of St. Bartholomew. ^^^ 

This order was an innovation on that whi^lt 
hid prevailed up to that time. I think osarly 
always Jwlm had been plaocd alone on (b*i 
opposite side of the table. I do ont 
illuminations merely, but of most of the ifl 
fresc^ear It was equally nn innovittioa 
John on the rieht hand of Christ; this 1 
the place of dt. Peter, and the ttfc was Ui^.' 
80, for instance, io the very fioo example dis 
in IStt*^ in Vu Paenct at Florence, And by i 
ascribed to GuffueUe himself. Next to St, ' 
in this picture sits St. Andrew, with a 
white beard, then St. Jamos the Lens, 
same type of face as the (Christ, and evn 
finely expressed, then St. Philip, and last onl 
side St. James i be Great Tbst St. Jcbn is [•! 
on the left does not auffloe to d«lr 
character of tbe beloved di-ijiple, fi i 
to recline on tbe table ri^ht in 
Snviour, who has his hand on his sb. 
him C9mes Sl. Butbolomew. repre^- 
with remarkably Aae eye." : St.Ti 
almost girlish, bat with a tbo' 
possibly n portrait of RifTdelle: 
St. Mutthew, Bt?m nnd old : i 
with SS. Simon mi'" 
turo, only th?ir pla- 
each is written uodii i.i .-t- . v^> 
of S'. Thomas, who wears his on ■ 
broidery of his dress. Judas, it may . . .... 

is Hrc-irledly handsome, 

This pictare haa groat limiLuri^ of ttnat 




* 8q Mtn Bosat FiceOxxt oti the r>-*Tt)>)n 
hsnd l^tolions %.u nalU to kVi 
f In tha Ktiiull iii-iiitimi m 



'11 



•,1 K— I- 



/aiif wtich tht lapcwtlcs ore divided, the second I I IVti 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



I 



with that of Cosimo Roselli in the SUtlne Chapel, 
thvoftb it ia very superior both In dnwiof; and 
f ' i £ui UoBellif too, bai m»de JadAs 

C :. ADtl he oocapies so mu':h spioe ia 

fcLi/r..i.i( i,-i Uc(t to tlio spectator that be quite 
B«piral«9 our L"ird from St. Jobo, who thus 
eitiQOt fulfil the Qospel uccAunt of having Uant 
apoa him. The apostle next St. Peter wean 
Ihe long b«ard of 3u Andrew, and the next, by 
bifl persoDjJ slmiUrity to (Jhrist, ir. of course. 
Si. Jfluies the L?S9, and the two eanie^t, bearded 
men whu fill up the table on the right bund are 
doubtlt^fla SU Philip and St. James the Grent 
JirginDim *j;«in at the opp',isite end, we have .SS. 
Situoii atid Judv, Ibrn ntt old jiiint aftd a youn^ 
one, n^ dmhl St. Matthew and St. ntrtholomov 
(for Roielli divides the apostles into twos, a? 
Leonardo placfls them in threw), and thus St. 
Tbutu-u i-i left, as it were, alone ; for thoogh fit. 
Jnbu A^rfn not. r«clint) on the Savioar, be still does 
not turn Ritiiy frtim biin. 

In thin picture the table* has been alrendy 
cleared by nerving men, who wait solemnly at the 
•xtnme ends of the picture (notwithstanding that 
dof^ gambol on the floor), nobbing btfine left but 
an eccleitastical chalice and the p&rtlcle which the 
SftTioar ia in the act of blessinf;. 

The "L»st Sapper" of D. Gbirlandaio in the 
■mailer refectory at S. Miirco, Florence, places 
the *pn«t)es in mach the same order. Judas 
again tits alone, t hieing onr Lord, and ngain he is 
made j^ood-loohing. A cat aita behind his chnirt 
8n Peler bore, ngain, is on our Lord's right band, 
SL John on tbe left, St James, with a marked 
lik«ne«a in feature to the Saviour, next to St. John. 
Their poiitioni are the same in the other picture 
attributed to GhirUndaio in the convent adjoining 
the Ognimtaatt Chorch, though there are greater 
movement and oner}^ here, and higher tinisb at S. 
Marco. St. Thomis occupies the same place in 
these as in Iba Via Fienzo, and ia depicted as 
rqoally girlish, tiiough not of tbe mudo type. I 



bnth in tbo background kboTe the Upestr; of the guest- 
chaniij«r. 

• T^ ...-■,■-, I.. -,;i ,. .., ^f^ pf J circle. It in more 
O" Laniculftr retumcJ cimIs, u in 

IL Uiit tliere U one, from the 

C« I'.c \ uLiLau l»il>r»r3r, wtiera it U borac' 

I - - - , ^ 'ire Im 1i>a no ninibui. I think Ihe oth* r 
picture* i bkve lioMnln?.] give liim on«. HiKoUi certainly 
4o«a. In fiv* if tJiPriirly panel pictarei in Dm Vntican 
l»il ' ' ' ii!.ii«, and in »nf>llier none. 

' ma the C«(iit ki S. .M«riinri, 
Tt Iiv >til cit llitru. tlial it wna 

PC. but ttifl ■bhnt, wliOH 

<)<*- :, ami it betokened tbo 

•'• ll ilruck me. Itow^yer, 

tit-' vru ma-Ie pftrticularly wiilo 

•■■ " to bi* n'>«e, and bis whoto 

m^TLcn-v .!. -. [h.; u- 9 jipccti it is of bioi that John 
and ibe Uaalar are whliperittg. 



forbear to pursue the treatment in other examples. 
out of reg*rd for your apwe. K. H. BnsK. 

In reply to W. 3. L S, l copy the fallowing 
from Jameson's Sacred and LtQfmlar^ Ari^ toL i. , 
with reference to Leonardo da Vinci's painting of 
"The Lwt Supper'*:— 

" The moment >eleeted ii tbe uttcnuice of tlie wordt. 
'Verily, veriljr. I m/ unto ;ou. that ono of you shKll 
bvtmy mp,' or rutlier the wiirila h^rs jant Keen utterotl, 
aixl t'iie pkture exttr«i3es tlit*if elTdct on tho difTAreat 
nuditora. It ia of tlicse aaditora, bU kpMtlu, that I 

bare toflpaok Next to Cliriit ia St. Jobn; be baa just 

breu ndJrcHed bv Peter, wlin bockoos to blni tUat be 
i)io<il>l tuic ' of w1i>)[n tli<! L'>rJ sjiitki)'- — hi* dia0'>rt- 
■'ilHt« fttiitudo u ho rAiied tiiin«elr to roply, ftntl loam 
hii cltLificd \i%n-U on the tabic, Che a1iu-.)St fecciinina 
Rwectnea* of hlii oounteoance, exprcM tbe cburaetar of 
th<a ecntle atid siuiablo apostle. Potor. letning from 
b«hiiiJ. t<i &lt 6fe uiid ener^^y. Jiidas, who know* full 
well of whom tho Uatiour «|iKke, ntirii b«ok aiaaied, 
over««tLin(r the iait ; hi* tinjcrs clutch tbe hwg, of which 
be has the eharKo. witti thnc action wliicb Uante de- 
•Otibei at cbaractoriilio of tbe nvariciout ; — 
' Qofiti ritiirgertirmo del tepulcro 
Col [luunu cbituo,* 
These from the tomb with clanebid gr&ip thaU rise.' 
His face if seen io proHIe, and eatt in the abadow; with- 
oat Wing vulgar, or tJtn u^ly, it ia hateful. 8t. Andrew, 
with hii bns my beard, lift* up bia bandt, expr«wlng 
the wonder of a itmplo- hearted old man. St. James 
Minor, retcmbliag the Saviour in bia mild featuroa and 
the form of hl« beard and hair, lays his hand on tbe 
shoulder of St. Petar — the exprenion iff, ' Can it b« 
poMlble! Have we heard aright?' Uartboloaew, at 
the Dxtremc end cf tho table, baa riaen perturbed from 
bia esat ; bs leana forward witb a hx>k of eager attention, 
tho ]ip« parted; be ia impttient to hair mora. (Tbe fina 
copy of UiKlooe, In tbe itoyki Academy, does not itlve 
tbis aniiiina lu<ik, he ia attAntire only.) On the left nf 
our Saviour ia St. Jatnoi Major, who Uai alao a family 
resoioblane« to Cbriit; bia arma are outstretched, ba 
abriukf back, be rapala tbe Uiougbtwitb horror. The 
TiTRcity of ibe action ami cxpreaaion are wooderCully 
true and character lattc. (MorKnen, tbe unirrmTer, orru- 
neooily eupp'.>se4 tbia to represent 8t. Tbomas, and 
placed on cue border of his rube an iDaoripliun Iixin); 
the idootity, whioli inscription, a* Bo<a1 atacrts. nerer 
did txlat iu ibo original picture.) St. TbQm>ts ia behind 
Ht. Jamrs, rather youn);, witb a uliort beard ; bo holdi 
up hi4 hand tlir«nt«niiic. — 'If tliero be indi>ed aucb a 
wretch let him look to it.' Philip, yiiunit and witli n 
btaultful bead, layi hi* band on bia lieart ; ho protests 
his love, bia truth. Matthaw, alio beardless, has more 
elegance, as one who beluuged to a more aduoated class 
than the rut; be lariii to Judo and points U our 
Savioor, aa if about to repeat lIis word', ' I'o you l».'nr 
wbaC Ho lays ? ' Simon and Ju<le ait t«t;ether (Leoufirdu 
baa fulloMcd tbe tradition which makes them old and 
brotbars). .Tude expresies coniternation : Simon, with 
hia hands stretched out, a painful anxiety." 

Cbler kt Audax. 

The following is tbe ord?r of the apostles re- 
presented in this picture, beginning from its right; 
(I) Philip, (2) Lebb.-cuB Thaddeus (St. Jude), (3) 
Matthew, (4; Judas Iscahot, (0) Peter, (6) John 



\* Z.*Ia/cnw,>iVv,W.'^ 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



(the beloved disciple), (7) Thomaa, (8) Simon tbe 
C-inaanitd, (0) Jimes Lebbceua (Jamei lh& Lvm), 
(10) Jmii'a t)i0 £ld<^r, (11) AbdMw, (IS) B»rtbolo- 
n^w. The beat copy of tho picture exUnt i« ia 
, the Koyftl Acad^mf, aud wan piioUd by Miltco 
iOpj?ioTie for the Grand Cb&rtteuBC at Pun*. A 
Tery exwilent fnc«iniile w« pnblished by Dny & 
Sun, the cminenl Htbn^rtiphent, in chromo>Iitho- 
gTAphy, Kiarty yvsin ngo ; prnor* eight gniDens, 

firintfl six kqiu^>l«. I |>0)ue»>( A copy, and it i> 
rotn the very interr-sriag Ijitle book iBsucd with 
it th»t I am able to fjivQ tho above inrormaUoD. 
Mr, IL C. Selous fiup«iiatecdcd tti reprnd notion. 

Tisy Tim, 

De Stendhal, m bEs ffi^U/ire d« la J^tiniurc tn 
Jtalie, siyH:— 

"SouB line ftnotenne <:■'- ■■■'-'- ''^rc qui c*t & P>nte 

Caprikfco, j'ai tntnv^ in liit>no <ini tn<Jiiitio 

I« iif-m d- 1 BpAtrr), «« • ni tar crl-ii ^jui eit 

*' 1 ifHticlic du BjLi.iai:ur- 8. In! i ., 

^ .'■■ le Min. lir, Hi'iiit A"<lr<^. 

, .' '. Ji-ftn, Jrsii*. 3..iiit Jdfq'.ef If M J. .1 . .^ i.t 

r^(i'>uR<. >«iiit Phthpie. ISaiiK Mmiliion. tiAtnt TliNilee, 

V0niiit Mirnon. C«» f.nlro rxt «-«iz prolwtl.lc. J« Tens 

di'c .|uil c»t tr*- ]. ".|.tlon exMtit 

I •»■)« I* r(f()ti<] "I . Ira dcm uu 

Iti.l- ,r .'itn • ijiru ■ .u tnoycn den 

'■ '■• ii«r i'Kv™i.({tl«, I'U (irtr lr» xiicienB auUurB, 

r ' <1eii» le tHliIvKti oomme <1aii4 rintcripllon. 

L-. .•.--VK.40 do cetlc Collie dt Poula Gaiiriuco att U 

HlCHAKZ) EdOCCUBH, 
38, TcJncrlh Sqiuirf. S.W. 

Lanxi tnys, Sioria Pxttorira, yo\. iv. p. 160: — 
I "SituDe induBtriu mu per ritrarre nelt' umi o nell' 
iiSUm S. Jaoopo bclJo fotuio oonvfincvuli td lor 
[flumtivre." But which figarea tepreient these two 
^•aint«1 Leonardo was a year lookiug for a »uit- 
fchlft JuAma. Edwakd H. Marsuall, M.A. 
Uutingi, 

Salt in Magical Bitks (G"> S. U. 461 ; x. 
37, f'7). — I aeiret-ly think Mn. CAtiutciurr, can 
*|]op<t ibat the very bujuII jukes with which bo 
'^attucka my quite unpretrndinK ntulemeuC about 
Jndu and the Milt-cblUr will maii*e the reit<lerB 
of "N. A: Q/'; but I leave thM lo tlietu, and 
only obacTTtf, on my own bvbalf, ih^t tf he haa 
attiiiu^d Bvcurity from ev«r hiniM-lf making a 
alip of the p«n (It bappvncd that I did not see 
ft proof of the paraKMph in ijTieii(ioQ, or the wi«, „„,, 
liiinvd of wuulil, of cotint(>, bate been 
he niukt b« l«ai ovirbiirdfueil with 
II moat of ui at the prevent d»y. 
I due* uot appear thul be h(Vt ut- 
<k. unity; fur, uut«ilh«taudioK hia 
ti* haa loine vuhicrabje ({lau nbout 
.1] rt<.,r. ri,., ,„ogj good-natuf'-'^ 
!«'dMu with whi 
i ^ 11 U a alip of tb^ 

r^ AW^ k&W*r»r, why thi» .luolAlion from (a 



Lady East^ake is brought in at all. He teema to j 
pat it forward aa if to prore that her appreciation 
of the picture waa in some way or other oppowd 
lo mine, which happens 1^ be the very C'>ntrArjr 
of the fact. In my poor leisure I hare att<>mpi«d 1 
to study the works of the great paintera mr^ 
plac4 rather than the Tarioui tnic^B in 
with which we are now oontimixlly t' 
so I have not read L^dy EasLlake's own 
but what wc mny guess to be tho v 
intended to express in the died px'i^ie.v, bo 
for from oppoein^ mine, tallies so Gl06«>Iy wUk 
it that I c3.nnot forbear transcribing the noU I 
aertbbled down at the spot when I flfat aav Um J 
picture, lomo fifteen years ago : — 

*' After all one ba« bv«rd of the detcrinntidu of Uta 
painting, nrffi'tlT 'Hrtpp''"""'' *** fif'' *''* •'!*v^»if>;r 
uicnlty mill tci 
uf J.lin, tl>9 I' 
Cftiurouliiiiiuri 



ftrt into four n»tur»l gmups vf utrvtuiv ia(limlu»lccc4 
figurci. are nil fltilt adoiirabty apparent 

I eqnally fail to see why Mr. CAauicQAicL 
faTours ua at this particulur opportunity with iha i 
flourish about hia knoa'todjife of Mdaneae art- 
treasures, as ha hsa no pt^reonal nbs'rra&ioa to 
offer on the point at issue, which aloiu ooaU 
have given occasion for treating ua to the iafomu- 
tion. 

But the whole of this u bi-fiide tho qoavtioo. I 
And I fearlessly reassert; (I) Thut ihara ia ba] 
overtonied aalt-oellar now in the picture ; U il j 
waa there it baa been painted out on some oocaiioa 
of restoratioo. The table-oloth li»s amouth and<irJ 
the hand which clutches the mouey-baR. Thm ' 
b, indeed, a mark where the surface t 
been repaired, but it ia not «o near > 
as the ealt falls in the engraving. (£} That, lutci 
thelesf, the tradition of tho incident having t«ea 
introduced to embody the popular superatitioD of J 
the lata] omen of tpttliDg kmIi has been fataHUr ta ( 
me from childhood ;* thmigh, of oouna, oa to ib« 
case of many lymbolical alliiBions in early ptctnm^ 
tbo art of tho painter introtluoea it aa a oonocy^ 
event-t 



• AiMiLt- 
un omen aa a ' 
wli»t D. - 
ki trift' 



il raccotfliart l« vj- 

\\ ti (luiiiio. ijuallb t ... — , ^--. 

)uHitn<. <1 Ift iMtiimu da tlatlo MaaxoloM iislta i 

aiof"? 'Jcl fVtiBf-oIn," 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



93 



t 






Together with th^«o aiinfrtions I repeat my 
oomment thdt tho diBc^f^pi^tioy duaerTft ioriuirj. 
lu nil prohftbility ibe epiiode wm origintlly intro- 
duced, and the eotiro ah^dnoe of ftoy trace of ic 
at pr«seat Hhowx hnw ron'^h tha picture hai be^o 
ptuotvd over; but it in pnibahly long Binoe it di^ 
appeared, for Prior Pino, in hts vUhonkt* descrip- 
tion of thp piotor?, 8fiy§ tb»t Jud&a is kanlDf; vtil- 
gitrly (t^Hanfirnmtntf) on the tabic, but do(«n not 
mcDtioQ the bkil-rTlUr, lu be would un'Ioubtedty 
liav.> iJii..- in na ritiuiitA i\n account, hnil h been 
«^' 1 timw. The oritiu^l uuthnr of thn 

A". ■' (I7h7) likftwieoMyii " »ppri|;itiAndocii 

TilUaAni««oi*," nod hothing more, thodyb his ju> 
oount til aUft very d>-tait«d, Goetbti'ii ohncrrfttiuo, 
qttotad by Mit. Oaiimichael, is to the point, and 
jtoeg eodie w»y tovards showini; th*t the spilt salt 
appeared on the wall ■» late ui biH lime ; but it is 
aUo nut lojpoutble that ho wrote hia rpmarkn at 
home, aa people ar« wont to do, bclpini* their 
mmn'jry of detail with oni^rHviaKs ; and therefort«, 
unsupported, iiDottkbAalureiyconnlusiTe.* Iccrtntd 
not ba'e bmo tbvre at tbH titue Mrn. J>tmiuan aatr 

the pioinr4<. yet the aiiuil'trly aa^a^ "Jtidiui 

utarta ha-k [lie crtHioly is mnviDg forwards, uot 
backward-] arnated, ovi^r-flHing the BttU," evi- 
d«n*ly writing from ao eni^ving. 

TliT* in annther inoidunt of the deliDCfttioQ of 
Judat w>]ii.'h ha4 pr'>rn|{ed dtiionjaion. The baud 
wbi'ib r««t4 un tli» table bold* fa<r a bo^ of moDev, 
uid it hits been miiJutained by different oritlca (i) 
thnt ibia baK coutaioi the " price of blood " lately 
r«ceire<I ; (2) that it is the common purse, of which 
he bad the charge. Boiii diacassea the two views 
dLRpMsiooateiy, deoidiDiir himwlf in favour of the 
laitof ; and the Datur<U conclasion woald bo that 
while tbii picture shows atich a marked and orlKioal 
departure froin the older conventionallsmi, yel 
tbat this kit of aymboliim was too convenient 
to bi* rraoQDMd; it eeeoia incredible any one 
shooM conceive ervo the blaokeat traitor parading 
tbe price nf fatji crime on sach an occasion- Coant 
Varri, however, who disputes whatever Boasi ad- 
vaocM, oppaiee him here also, stoutly maiotaiuiog 
tbe former view. 
In oooclusion I will beg Mr. OaaMtca^xL to 




liy jiresiiTit an nprcnnincfl rf ilill- 
..[.<.«rHMtIie"8i'h'e>ck, Entaetscti, 
" nliicli bo fiuila only 
l)i« Ubio. 

rk lince mnkinit tbi« 

lly lajr* Doit GoctKo Uktl 

wliiia writing hin ohMrmi- 

" ■ ' ..,.] 

rU, 

■nl 

\r:t. 

U, al bu Uoie la tLe piMieMtno of a Mr. Ua; iu 



refer to line 14, p, 
OiUTvisioni on Boss! 
that a more practiied 
be, in a well-printed 
adverse chUeism, has 
thi^ pen to miue by 
" Leonardo." Such 
beet of us. 



132 of Connl CaHo Verri'a 
• book. He will there find 
art critic th>i,n I pretend to 
volume of closely studied 
committed a similar nlip of 
writing *' Durer "* iu pl;ic« of 
thinga may happen to tho 
R. H. BtBK, 

May 1 add my testimony, from oareful personal 
inapectioQ this year, to that of Mis9 Bosk nt lo 
the absence of the salt-oellar from the M ilan '* Ooa- 
cnio " ? I have heard its presence in enfiravinjts, 
t&a, aoooiHiled for by the fact that these are 
t^enerally taken from an early copy in the Loiivro 
wbioh baa tbe&alt-celUr, and not from the niiiifd 
original. How or when it firil »p|>eAr<^d is ■till 
to be explained. Has the point twen discusied / 

Mn. Caruicbakl wastes a good dfal of cheap 
and rather pooderonn earossm on Mims Buhk^ 
obvioun atip, bur, doaptte bis ** more or less good 
knowledge of Mdau and its art treaanree for the 
past twenty yea rs,"u«refully avoids committiu^' him- 
self by any statement of hi* perRonal knowledge 
iif ihn f-ict in qiiemlon. Whatever Ooetfae may 
have seen or duscribes, I can testify that there is 
DOW no triiCN* of there baring been a salt-celUr in 
the original " Ceoaoolo." H. M. C. M. 

Allnw me to add my name to that of Kfiss 
Bunk as that of one other who has failed U> Hud 
in the " Oenacolo " at Milan the spilt solc-ceUar 
whicb Mr. OARUicnaBL baa no doubt that Qoethe 
saw. I have looked very earnestly for it, for I 
must admit that I had aasooiated the saporatilion 
about the ill luck of spilliag salt with the action 
of JadaSf famtliar to all iu the engravings of the 
work, and was disappointed not to find it. I 
came to tbe conclosion that it wns an invention of 
Marco Oggione. It is true that Belotti. or Mazzs, 
or Barozzi may bare painted it out. Hut ia this 
liktdy i 

Mr. Caiimichael, who has known Milan and 
its art Lreaaurea for tbe last twenty years — a period, 
however, vhieb dope not go so far ba«k as the 
date of Barossi's rtfttoration — does nut say that he 
haa Been it Can he do so f Or can any of tbe 
many correapondents who have taken tbe trouble 
to point out Miss Bosk's obrious slip of the pen 
Uke the further trouble to clear up this point, 
discarding from their minds all impressions con- 
veyed by recollections of Ot^tjione's copy or the 
eniiraving which Riiphael Morghen mjtde from 
MaLteini's cartoou — impreaiiooi by which even 
a ((jethe might, be inflaeuoed— and stating only 
what they know that they saw on the convenft' 
wall/ Kir.LionKW. 

I can confirm Misb Bcbk's atatemeot oboat the 
srklt-cellnrin Leonnrdo dii V\ncVa ** Yyvalft^VV*''*'' 
1 noticed tbii point pMlwuUx\^\wcki\.\»«Bi.v«:^iw 



■A^a 



M 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



|0*8.X<Am.«,- 



is not orerturaed. I remember seelog %n engrAT- 
ing m the room^ia vhicb thi salt-cellar was reprs- 
Koted M OTcrtaroed, and I tiirDed again to the 
picture to nuke tiiro that I had not been mis- 
taken. This was iu the earl; pArt of 1882. 

O. "W. TOMLINSON. 

nutlJcnfielJ. 

X was a little surprised to 6nd Mr. Black had 
omitt«d the cnrionx p%Mkga In Ezektel xti. 4 : 
"And aa for thy nativity, in the day tbon wast 

born thou wast not saiUd at all, nor awaddled 

at all." Prrdebick £. SAwysa. 

Brightun. 

QwAvivKB (G* S. ix. 288, 351, 390).— pRor. 
Rkkat'« dBriration of this word from a lapposed 
ItAlion oompound word nrqua viptra may at firvt 
Night appear planslble, but it will not bear one 
moment** investignlion, and in in fact impomible, 
Inasmuch an il is kued upon a palpuble niiHuntier- 
atandlQi; (1). and upon an indisputublo mialnke (2). 
With regard to (1), il ia quite true that in Sher- 
wood's Index to Cotgrare there is, '* A qnJiTiver, 
tunUM, vivt, tTaig}ie, ^ Mafteit.," and that in Cot- 
gnive himself we find, " Traigne, the aa-dragon, 
viver, quavivir: % Maraeilloia ^; but Pnor. Skkat 
is eridently quite wrong in luppoaiag that Sher- 
wood and Cotgrove wished to poiot out quavivtr 
as a Marseilles expression. In both cases qiMviver 
IN given as nu EnKliah word; how, then, can it be 
Marseillesc J No; traigne was the wor*l which 
Ihey both wished Lo give as coming from M;irseillea; 
and that this ia bo can be inferred from more th.-in 
one consideration. In ihefiriil place, Sherwood (his 
drclionnry being English-French) naturally puts 
liii En;:)i^h words in rouian tetters and his French 
wordiin itnlict, and accordingly we find quavivtr in 
roniiio, nndAf(irictf.,asreferriogtofraiVns,in italics, 
rotgrnve, on llie other band (his dictionary being 
Frcnch-Enslish), uses romon letters for the French 
words and italics for the correnponding Eagliah 
one*, and accordingly wo find '* M.irseillois," as 
referring to " Iraigne," in romao. But where we 
find the word qHnv^ver unaccompanied by tmi^t 
there we do not find anything naid about Mnrseillea. 
Thns, in Cotgrare the word •*Tumbe"i8 explained 
to mean "the great lea-dragon or quaTlver ; also 
the gurnard, called Mat Boian," which I t^ke to 
n)f>an th.-it at Rouen the word luinb<~guroard, 
And M again, a. r. " Vire," we hara simply " the 
ipinvirer or »esi-<lragoii.'* 8o much for lh« mis- 
uiidfnitAnd)ng(l). 

But if quavtvrr was not a Mnrwilles woM— and 
1 hare Jn»t shown that there is not the slightest 



• W« now »• 


mlalit tiuctf ]k- 


w«;' 


to ; 


an J 1 If ■ 


•O is I'UTc 1 



, Il Ifi i^hcrtrMMl " Miintil" 



evidence of it either in Sherwood or in Ootgrar* 
then the remainder of Prop. Sk^at's ootei, 
being ba^ed upon tbia sappoaitioo, falls at 
the groand. And even if mtaviotr (in t 
of quamm) hud been a MarseUles word, 
Skcat's derivation of it from a suppo««d Italian 
acqui viptra would still be impanible. I^bari 
already observed more than once that 
Skcat, whn is evidently more familiar with t 
Linguugea of the Teutonic and Soandinarian fam 
than he ia with tho«e commonly called Latin. 1 
a tendency to overlook the fact that the sa 
rules of word -format ion do not bold goo*] in I 
two fitmiliei of langnagea. Wattr viptr t 
good English, and W<u»emattfr (which m- 
same thing) is excellent German; but no one 
ever think of trintlutinir them into Lntin by i 
words nqua tipcru ; and af<faa vipera ts jnit 
little Italian as ajita viprra would be Latin. Ilal 
does aometimes follow Litin ftirms very closel; 
but when it does so and there is a genitive 
Latin this genitive ia always iodiciied ia Itali; 
Thus the Latin words aqaadiictu*, tfrrtr. mot 
and the Low L:itin aqmt vUtf^ hnve been 
petuated io Italian, and there Ihry have asiutni 
the forms tu^queiiotto (or arq^iiilot !o)t ttrrmoti 
(or trnno(o),t »nd acyixari^ the Latin genitiv* 
a; being represented by e, or in one case by t. U 
the Italian genttivi*, or rather subatiltite for 
geniiive^ is much more commonly used, and 
ordinary equivalent of *• water viper" would 
doubt be viprra d'aeqwi, just as wal«r-r*t 
sorcio d'acqua.X So much for the mistake (X)w 

F. CaAXcc 
Hjdenbam Hill. 

P.S, — I notice thai in my note, it. 391, a tram- 
position hits taken place in the last line uf not« t, 
for it ought to stand ** bj adding a consooaai (f 
or, in Eogliab, '/).*' 

GAnpiNDO (e** a ix. 407, 6]4).~Adnif 
Smyth's ■Suiiot's W<nd-Bor>k containi '* 
ing entry nnder this word, "One 
ppnter's crew." The term is not to l.c r.iu.ii la 
either Falconer's or Young's _Viui/ic<i/ Dittxtm- 
aria, nor is it in Jal's (jtoitaire Santiqtu. 

ORoiiaR F. UoorcL 

Sircatltam. 

TiToa Oatm AflAt* (6»* S. Tiil. 4<»fl, 49»; 
813. 801, 337, 445 ; x. 36).— I am ^ 
Mhained of inyaclf for overlooking fi / 

* / 
IuHnii 
form. 

t The tMto is frequently, and I abouM aay maiw' 



1 



^uj liioJccL, i-al , ilii:;.i'aurj j^iiai UJiUiu^ lu^n tiiau Mr.-in U tMu^i 
wkjer T*i. 



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95 



Dotic* of Titns Oates. I inaat bnTe read it veftn 
»gn, und Ktnuigetjr forgottea it, as ihe atoij of tho 
niDlher's dre«ai comes buck upoa lue Dovr ibnt I 
ftm reminded of iu Roger North is not wroni; in 
mjioi; tbat Titus was sent to St. John's, but it 
«H4 A ye&r nod a half after ho wu entered at 
('j.inq. H« bectinie a afz.ir at St. Jobo's, Feb. 2, 
]fl68,'d. Prof. Mayor could ^ive us a copy of 
Ibe entrj, and tell us who the Aniiinian tutor was. 
Adoustvs Jkssopp. 

Caret Family (6« S. ix. 60, 329, 413. 407). 
— Ia it knowa why the Earls of Moomoutb, the 
ViKOUDti Pftlklund, nod Bnron.i Uunsdon ia- 
TAnably ipcit their name with an e, vis., Carey; 
Aod for what reoaon did this family name hecooie 
•Uered iuto Cary 1 T. W. 0. 

T . (6'* S. X. 25). — Without the 

aoc l:;9 all suggestions as to the dcrira- 

iiona '.'I piiueuames are mere (pieces. Torpenhow 
roay, however, be a corruption of Tborpendhow, 

rthe Eyllabic-itioo of which would be Ttiorp-end- 
bow (not Tor-pen-how m gireo nt the reference 
above noted). If the Kuess I have hazarded ia 
correct, the derifalion would be from A.-8. Oiorpe, 
n Tillage ; A..-S. rnrfc, the end ; and OIil Norse 
haugr, u hill,— the bill by the end or outskirta of 
the village. Frkderick Davis. 

Palace Cbaabeni, St Stephen's, 8.W. 

I Sulliran (" CumberlAud nnd Weatmorland, 

B Ancient and Slodern," Ctliic Qioitary, p. 38, edit. 
H lfi57) girea ihe following: — 

"Torpenhow. B.C. lor, hill; C C. pm, hill; with a 
.. D. eadloK of tbe mmt i»««mDg— Pr. rt»7)fiiii4i, accenting 
H OB the letionil ; this reod^rs iaiiiotilhlo *ny such dorivo- 
^B tion fttTorpeu'i haw. Cf. Penhow, Munmoiitb." 

^ SnUivftD ia here very emphatic in his irjeotion of 
Ihe derivotioD ndvanced ia the Sat'irtlny Rsview. 
NicboUoD and Burn (voL it. p. 124), give the same 
dmvation as Suliivao, but also huijgcitt as iin 
alternative fAof7J-}j(n = towQ-hill. I conclude Mr. 
FiorroM has only made a ilip of the pm in making 

I tor British and pen A.-S. 

K JoHV BiXEEiTOif Crump. 

H Femjriea, neir Peorith, 

^1 Whatever may be the true explanation of this 

^Piuune, " the niual explanatioo," which your corre- 

^ rpondent givei, ia, of coune, wrong to itylo ptn 

A.-S. The Celtic pm is found in many names. 

Here are two invtanceft of names where the second 

, lylLibU hivi been added, apparently when tho 

ling of pen was no longer understood. Pen- 

b the North Riding of Yorkshire, and Penhill 

> to OBTdiff. Torpenhow in tbe map of Cum- 

viand iu Camden's JSritannia is written Tor- 

'fnnoYi it is pto gtTcD, also, in Spelman'a Villarg 

i^njriKun, 1G78' F. 0. Birkbbck Tkkrt. 

Tot-Pcmr-PiKwiTii (6"" S. ix. 449). —Ban- 
BtsUf's (?Ioswry of Cvmuh Namu (WUliams & 




Norgate) deals speciully with the subject of Cornish 
local names. It is a work of great industry, but 
19 more vaUuible for the collection of namci which 
it conlninit th:in for the interpretation it (•tfr.rii of 
them, or tbe name In question the f>>llowing 
explanation may be interesting to your corn?* 
spondent: — 

1. Tol in the Corn. ioU^ or tout, a hole, cognate 
with W. twit, Ir. nod GmI. toll, Manx totci 

2. Pedn is a late corrupt form of Corn,, Wf^Uh, 
and Breton pen, or pmn, a heailj Ir. and G.iel. 
eeantit Manx cione, 

3. r^nwUk ia a compound of ptn and guU, 
blood, and so supposed to mean " promontory of 
blood." 

The meaning of the eotir« name is given by Dr. 
Bannister us " the holed headland of Peawilh"; 
but in accordance with Cymrto construction the 
phrase ought rather to mean ** the hole of ihe be.i'l 
of Peowtth," n« t-tl is a noun. Or it is possible 
thut tol is a modification of (<i/, end or top, and 
that the name means " the top of Penwith heml." 
The WeUh form would bo Tu-U for tnl) pen f'en- 
wiih, mcttoing " the hole (or top) of Penwith head." 

Qlakirvov. 

Tbe derivation of lht« well-knowa name, Tol- 
pedo-penwith, is not difllcult except in tho lost 
syllable. 7'ol is Cornish for hole. This is a 
couuiion Aryan word, runniog through half ihs 
languages of Europe. Ptdn is later Cornish for 
ptH, a head. It is one of the ooumoneatsurriring 
Oornisfa words: — 

"Tre, pol, and pen, 
Bjr which yuu know the Cornish men." 

Penwith ia the westernmost and, I believe, largeafe i 
hundred and deanery in Cornwall. The doancrj! 
was divided a few ycare ago, but still containi^ 
twenty-6ve parishei- The meaning of th9 name, ' 
then, ia " the holed headland of Penwith." Now 
the question may be luked, *' What is the moaning 
of Penwith t " and thin is uot so certain a matter. 
It is eomotimcs thought to mean " the white bend," 
or "tho head or peninsula of separation." Tli«l 
latter would be descriptive, aa nmrkiog the separfr- I 
tion of the two seas by this tongue of land ending I 
in the Lund's Eud. Ai (or tal, it occurs often ia] 
Cornish names, «. g.^ Mcn-to-tc>/| the holed stone 
near Ponzance, To^rne iu Newlyn West, ZWcarofl 
in Carnmcnellis, Tofveroe, &c. 

W. S. Lacii-Sztrma. 

There id n Cornish word toll, which means a 
hole, the Welsh equivalent of which is tuiU. Feiln 
is late Cornish for 771^1, which means " a summit or 
promontory"; tt also has ihe signilication of'eod/* 
OS the Ijatin /inis. Tbe WeUb ia tbe same word 
pen, or p«nn. Petivith appears to he a reduplica* 
tion of ptdn and xcith, which I believe signilies 
"care," in the leose of to beware. I abowVV ^v^v.**!^^^ 
from a knovledge ol tbe ftnoiua^. \aTk^u'a^« qV ^i 



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coanty, thnt the nicnninf! of Ibe three ironln was 
"b lir>le on A niounUiD TTliioh you shonl'l crtrtfully 
avokl." I am doI awMfp of aay otber placc--Dan)efl 
with tol. I KhaiilJ tixlvise Mr. Caudew tn consult 
the Lrj:iA»t Cormt' Uritannicum^ aa the only work 
with which I &tu ncc]unioted thnt (tiven aa np- 
proxtoiate tueualog to thu Corniah laD^ince. 

Edward R. VrvrAK. 

Tol-Fedn-Ponwith -^ " the holed promontory to 
the left"; (o/ = a bole ; p^dn — ptrn ^^ headliinrl. 
The hiiTiHred in which the Land's End i^ Bittint^'d 
»titl retain*! thf* nnmc Pcnwilh. 8«« A IVtrk at the 
Land't Kmi, by ItliKht, pp. 8G, 10(J. There in a 
|iA«j.rt(;e citllfd T'o/vcriie (forpigner'o hole) between 
NinlpciH nnd Falmouth i B#e TourUU* Guide io 
Cornivally by Trexelliw, p. 74. Tolcarne i« the 
nnnie of a place Id the paiiah of Onmborne, Com- 
wntl. F. W. Wkaveb. 

Litton Vioorvjtfl, Evercreeob. Bath. 

Fnin nnd Pen nre really one and the wme ; 
^, Tornish piithi {modem Bpelliog fficu.t'hn), 
Wel«h gwjfnn. In C^rnubian place-namea J*«« 
in nppUed lo a dintrict forming ft promontory, 
Ptdn to & particular headland or rocky point ; 
but there are excopliona to this rule. Pen- 
wiih iii the name ^iv<>n to the westernmost bun- 
dr»d of Oornwalt. H^rn trifA itt nynnnymonit with 
ywWfi, meaning " while." Tot (Welsh pwll, Irish 
;>*/0 nignifies a bole, and It aUo used ndjoctively. 
Hrnoo Tdl-Pciln-PoDwiih would seem to mean 
"The holed faendlnnd of the white promontory." 

I belifve I have heitrd (hut in days trono by It wm 
cohiidcred to be the real Land's End. There is 
ftlito n CorniBli word pot (viotiely allied to the Irish), 
ftij^ntrytnii u hollow or bottom. Tvl occnnt in 
many other forni^h ph\ce-nnn)eti, e,g., Tolcirn, 
•Mhn holed cairn/' T.Wvean, 'Miitlo hollow," both 
in Prnwilh. Though I cannot refer to it, I belie»o 
Mr. CiUDKW will (jod tlie»e wordg duly oiphined 
in the vocabulary appended to KorlBHc'n //iifory 
of ConncalL PoRTHMiNaTRR. 

Thm name means th« holed or perforated head- 
land fjf Pcnwith, and referB to a funnel rocV, with 
ft pit or chasm that meanure* abonl a hundre^l 
feet in depth and eiffht in diameter. Penwith 
i« the niinte of the district. The hundred of 
Penwith inaliides nil the country to the went of 
a line drawn front Redrnlh to Oiiddan Pointy nenr 
Mapwxion. In this same diitri'-t, not fur from 
Madron, i« the anrient mnniiment called the 
Mrn-nn-Tol, or Holed Stone ; and at ronitantine, 
near K«lmouth, ii, or was, another, kunwn m the 
Tolmeah or ToImM, which, of t-oiime, is the muni 
term for luonunieuu of thix cUm, Tolinen Point 
is the nnmc of a pmtnontory in .St. Mary's hland, 
one of thn Scilly group ; and Tol C'ftrne ia that cf 

II pilfr uf rock* near Pen7Anre. The Tol in all 
tlie«6 name* has the Nnnie mpanio{(. 

io i>0rvt«bkrv ia liie vilbigc of Tolpoddlft, with 



AfTpuddle and Toner's Puddle tn Its - 
ho<id. The two latter place* are 
merely by by-roads ; but Tnl|i(i '' 
the biKb r->nd that runs from \> : i 

cheMer, and probjibly hni its nnnu^ ii<>iii d ;.>II.|^ 
The Welsh for T^I Pedti wouhl bo Pen y Twil. 

a w. s. 

Ooroish toil ia a bole ; jwdn in Uk pfn, 
extremity, head, the npper part (like h'tht for I 
i/Ti/r/n for piri/ti ; toJn for ton). C<tuidi'n reiide 
Penwiili the lefi-band promontory. " But," say 
Pnlwhele, "I find tlio noutU called by the iinriv 
the right, and the north the left. Now PetiwiC 
is the southernmost hundred of all Piit:iin ; ^*«fl 
({With, or ttujdh, the most conspicuous hj^b Ian 
or Pen-iet. the head of the island "; and he refa 
to Baxter and Lbujd. R. 8, Cuakkock. 

Engliih Chr<*}wh, anno 907, 0, ».« , Abing»!<i 

Chron.: "Her ferdeie hereahntnnPefemi 

into Swfern mnS.in and rofter J-im w#nd 

abutnn PcnwiS steort on |;ii su4 henlfe, and wS 
^a into Tamer muji:m." D (ibe Worcester Ohr 
reads renw.-vd, and the Lmd M.S li.n Penwii; 
Stfftrt^ lit. tail, here denotes headland, I lupnosl 
and is an English addition to the name. Eafj 
quotes the BrtU y Tyuytoyion : " KioR Hei 
colIecleU an army aijninst tlwynedd and Pon 
'oV van eithief o Oyrnyw lie (;el*'r Pencwn 
hyt y vann eitbiaf o Ilrydyn He ^elwir Penl 
tbaon'; i.t., from the lnnd'« end nf C 
which is called P/ngipjijd," ftiv He i;i' 
further reference. P. Ziluwooo Ro 

Ramd Makitfactuuk ffl" S. i, 2«>. — ' 
"Qnirk Work in Ooal Making" is futli 
in Chambers's BfinJc r>f fhtyf, toI. i. p 
hero was Sir John Ttiroclimorion, uf Isi'wi.ufj 
Herk<, who in 1811 offered to lay a wacf of 
lbou8sn<l Knine.Ts " that at eight o'clock < 
liotilar ereninn he wnnld sit down to dinnt 
well-woven, well-dywl, well-mnde suli, the 
which formed the fleece on sheep'p hurks 
nVlnck on the same morning,'* i^'- <"■'• '^^ 
hour nnd Ihree-qnarter*," on J'' 
ilescriWd in detail. The event v--' 
?uV'j«>ct of a largo lithograph, tih- 
>cenei, whidi is often to b« fnnnii 
(as at Alcestcr, Wexford, &c.) in Suuib Wuwic 
nbire. Emit. 

Sir John Throckmorton, in Iflll, was the mom 

of ihi", by olT'Ting a waijer. Th»* ••\..iU .... m.-rV 
at Grecnham MilU, Nfwtinry. 
hpL'Hii III, lirtlf-past five o'clncU io 

t down In dinner lO "i 
!»ix. H*' fTin fhf - 

lo, for tbr 
'. : be on th- 

at cit^lil. The V ' ;(. 

There i> aa uc->' 



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07 



Tol. i, p. fi25. I h/ivo seen a coloured print of the 
bmiacs in i farincr'i house. Eo. MARsnj.x.L. 

A few WMki ngo I wna nt WOTton-under-WooiI, 
CovrptT** villiifc, and there [ Rivr, in tbo little inn 
telletl Iho " Yurdley 0;ik/' n olonrod priat of iho 
rvflMfkuVdo ninmifrtcltirinK fetit which tovk pin'.'e 
at Kcwbtiry, Borks. It prcsootcii & piLDommJo 
view of tiie various ntngefl, ihtarini;, Hplnninf;, 
WMiving, hiiloHng, until the wool tnken from a 
ftb«#p in the morning npt»enra ut dinner iii u well- 
mndd cottt dq iho hick of tbo (^ntletunn by whom 
all the arrun^enients were mode, ood who thus 
b»mmo the winner of a brye wager. R. W. 

BrooiptoQ. 

\' ' ■< ■T'TL ftfttM that r»n acoonnt hai already op- 
uj .,1 (rum tlone'B Tul-U- li'jak.\ 

MS. AccooJiT or Battlb or Trafai-oah (G*^ S. 
fr -"•' •'"'W—U rony he worth noting that OnpL 
<'| cr, now print«d for iho first tim**, wa* 

r<:..., ;^ meniioiie-i by Sir N. U. Nlcolu* in 

Ute Seiwft lM»jin*cif*a, rii. 173, note :— 

M Ti.n -,t,t,.r t ,.. i,((n rarourcd by th« Rct. Anthony 
C '.rnf a rcr? intfr««tinj5 letter writlen 

i" !''» I'lt" fn'licr, *;apt. Ourolir. who, 

a* >'. nicostdcd t) tbo 

f -criblng linr pri>- 

c - . , _L. - . ^!ar« are, lioweror, 

CliKi lite men at thu qiDirtera on the InwiT ileck wrfito 
vpnn MnTne *'t tlio |fam III chalit * Victory or ilnalh,* 
aT< I " ' lif ihe KfcnArlot tbrowQ front L'Ai^lc let 

11' -lor'f otcir«-room," ftp. 

]l .ri ..t; i'.r<iDgo thnt Sir Ilarris NicolM sfaouM 
oot liare noticetl that ihe nccount of the nien 
obalkinif " Viclnry or I>o.tlh " on their guna nrun 
atfeuty ^\.veti in the X-tmt dironieU, xfii. 361, 
in ft iii>:'n!Mir of Cnpt. John Cooke, There ia also 
in ' ChronicU, xv. 2():j-20B, fin exlract 

fi- ■ I written by an otKcer of the Bello- 

rnfilt'wi, nht.h m diitfd I>*p. 2, 1805, and which 
je »try inlertttiog for iv>nipnri»oo with Cnpt. 
Onmlty'a Itller. Ueoruk F. lIuorBU. 

fllRftiham. 

B«poft«ADE8 (O"* S. ii. 318, 432, 611; x. On). 
— When Aberneihv gnve inBtnictions to ono cla«8 
of hia patteuta, tKey w^-re aooompaaied by the 
ad»tce, "Bend my book." There wn.^ no fuch 
ninhittoo on uiy part when I vpoke of the /^•^^ 
Wttr a( the R.T.S. m ** my edition." I merely 
mMot tho edition which 1 pouosa. There is no 
Tear DO the titlc-page ; bub my copy appears to 
MVO b«eD in Uie posMiatua of aome one in 1813. 

£d. Marshall. 

'" S. h. 507; X. 34).— r believe "to 
11' r'mr-.''t^ n rpcogniMd old Scotch word, 

tl- e. Id Keith's rAnrcAa7t/l 

>' ndtx, p. C7, there 'm an 

order, litiiicr .uto i.^.52, "That tiU the thre 
liuittlretb« men be hogbutteria furaishit with 



Powdir, Flmk, Monioghorot<i, ftod all oMtir Ofir," 
Sir Wrdter Scott uses the word moi*ivgh'>rn ai 
euitivalent to po#d«rf]iLak in the Lay nf th< iMtt 
Mifi^trel, canto ir. 1-1 :— 

" Batrooat<,all fmimcarl and 'bmldered o'er. 
And moritny-KorHi, ^nd \chrft iXxfy wore." 

Tl ia troe that in Lont;iuuir anil JJonahlaoo's 
Scoilith Dictionary, Iftwo, "to iiior« " ia not 
eiven, but they hnvo ^' vknning-horn, \\ pnwder- 
6iak or priminff horn"; nnd ^'mnraivg-ponhlrr^ 
|iowder iitted for priiuia^'," and dt-rire the word* 
from French, ^^ Amoret, prinif*, pntnini^." Ae 
these two worJa were certiiinly med in pithltc 
docamenlfl in 1552-66, it ii pUio lhi\ttho mo.inia)( 
of '* to morse" was then generally understood, and 
th.it it waa eqairaleot to " to priioe." 

EOVVAUD SoLLT. 

Morn ts no misprint, hut n word full of nieaninEf. 
From its expresftiveuefia it is just auch a word »s 
the great Sir Walter woold bo delightrd to hear 
drop front the lip^ of aome carititic Caledotnan 
rustic^ and to utilize on the occiuion wl>rii 
Father Eustace reprovca the ihicf and ruffiui 
ChTistio of the Clinthill. Thnt mori« doei not 
appear in Jamieeon ia no concltiHive reitxnu H}{aiiist 
ii« being formerly used. One nenilpinan, recently 
dea*), c^lK'Cied iu * aowll Border town »<'veral 
hundred Scotch worda not in that vftlimble dic- 
tionary, which [ hopo will, with hiindrcdi nitiro, 
appear in on enlarged edition of Jam it-son whioh 
is nowin prepamtion. Scotch philnli>;;i?l3 linowlhat 
mont, with its evident coniponnd n-nifnxf^ cimra 
frnin mnrd^o, tnorjt, to bite, fmtn which como at 
Ipaat fifteea words more. In its primary nienntng, 
tobite, it rariesio tho Scotch tongue from a simple 
nibble to n snap, In the sentence referred to it 
means thnt "ho of the CItnthill " wna cfi;jrrly tn- 
dniging in biting, stinging, or nnnwini* thoughts of 
iilaaghter. Ilsaecondarj in- ' > inclttdo the 

idea of plotting and eon-pi-- :d»"tawume« 

the form of lai^rdin th*" phri-i- ik- i^* jo^t tftcri/in 
at it," J:imie'>on haa not I liis verb cithrr, hnt hi* h.i!i 
mnTdie-(}rvp», i. c, helly-arhe or a otdic, from llio 
same root to gnaw, to pinch. Thnt the wnid M 
a mteprtnt should have been printed and road 
by milliona for fifty years without being chuUongcd 
and altered excceda the bounds of pmbahility. 
Many moro knew Scotch when it lAxued frcbi 
the press th;in now, and could esplain it to 
inquirers. If it had eBetip^-d Sir Walter'* own 
eagle eye huudreda of hia adiutrrrs uuiil have 
asked him for an explanation. 

DoMiviB Saupsok. 

Bkdk's Chair (6* S. ix. fins).— Brand d^- 
acribea this clinir aa **a great two-nrmel chair, 
flaiil to bare been deposited here (Jurrow) erer 
ffince the di^eololion of the monastery. It ts of 
oak, and appears to haTo beetibevivv wvV V\v\i ^la. 
oxc, except that at l\io Iq^ ol \.\\«i\».Ot.>.\kft ck«p 



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CB'fcaX Ap(t.2,'S«. 



piece is mortised to the standArds or upright parts 
which serve bath for legs aod its support; theitt 
with (he tetit* ncd Hides Rre rer/ ancieot, but the 
t).ick, accnrdiatj to tbe person who flbows it, hiis 
itDce been added." BraDd wrule thus in 1789, 
nnd athU, " In the Antiquarian liepertory, toI. ii. 
p. 113, is given a plate of the chair" (/iiitory and 
Antiquitit* of NtuKiSstUvpon-Tt/nf, Londoo, 
ntU, vol. ii., foot-note to p. 61). Many nenibors 
of the Archtcolo^icat Institute will doubtleas vifftC 
Jarronr Church during their meeting in Newcastle 
next month, and this relic will, 1 am sure, be 
itMpected with no ordinary intoreat. 

J. ALuruEU 
NeweutIe-iipon>TfQi- 

Old UriTiiM (6* 8. x. 47).— In the extract 
from Stevios'a MS., inserted by A. £. Brno in fais 
edition of Chauoer's Treatiat oh. the J 9(ro^t/>«, there 
nre memorinl lines on the months of a date not 
lnt*r (h[\n 155i5 (** N. & Q ," 4**' S. vii. 4fl4, 525). 
Mr. W. J. Ij">FTiB has shown that the memorial 
lines occur in Grafton's Abridgnunt of the Chro- 
niclfM of England in 1570 ('* N. & Q. ," 4" S. vii. 
3ii6). Mr. Thomas WnionT has cited them from 
Winder** Aimamtc for 1630, Cambridge (in Afdr- 
mittan'M Afagtviiru, January, 18C3, quoted in 
«N. & Q," 4»* S. vii. 386). Mr. Loftib has 
found the French in a Book of //ohm of the fif- 
teenth century (" N. & Q./' 5«^ S. i. 260). 

£o. MAtisnALL. 

FOREION MONCMKSTAL BaASSCS {e** S. X. 26). 

— With reference to the meotion of the Rev. 
W. F. Creeny's rubbings of foreign brasses, I 
shonld like to state that I have just seen some 
Bpet^iiucns of tbe pages and iltiisirations of hia 
pro()0)ied Umk on the subject, and that I can 
strongly rccoiuuiend it as likely to be a sijlendid 
work in folio, to which foreiRn as well as Eoglish 
antiquaries and libraries oiigbt \o »ubscribe. Mr. 
Creeny's address ia Norwich. C. H, Mshhiuq. 

LiTERART Tame (G^ S- U. 467; x 13).— To 
the instADces in "N. & Q." for July 5 may be 
added Charles Dickens's Pecksniff, Peckaoiffisn. 
How ofl«D, too, do we hear a man called a reguUr 
Dominie Sampsoni which with " Dryasdust " 
makes Scott contribute at least two words to the 
English lanj^oa^. Q, B. 

Upton, Sloock. 

OARIOATUTtEa OF THR MOLttCADT EsVKLOPB 

(6** S. ix. 508).— There is n caricature of the Mul- 
ready envelope In Theodore Howk's Chmcc J2k- 
mours, published by Hotten (citca 186G). 

HdOH TiLdLST. 

^I have in r n of odd* and «ds 

Nn«. I to B of ;. -lyiu for Voit.igt Snv*- 

Ifjp<M, published Uy J. \V. Soutbgate. Library, 
J^^, .'^fnad, ia June, ]?ia No. I is by Fredk. 



Froom, and tho remainder by Madeley. An- 
other, with O. J. C. in the left-hand comer, pub- 
lished by White, 59, Wych Street. Strand, Iwara 
a close resemblance to the original design by Mul-j 
ready. I uNo [)ossesB No. 1 of Fores'i C<rmic Kn- 
velopf't designed and engrared by J. Leecb, " pub. 
liabed by Mes^r.:. Fores at their Sporting and Finn J 
Prints llcpoiitory and Frame MaDuf.^tory, 41|| 
Piccadilly, corner of SaokriUe Street." 

EVERATtD HOMS GOLKXAX. 
71, BrecltQook Koad. 

I have in my collection the followiog Mulroady 
imrtations : — 

Four designed by W. Mulhcod^ KA., pQblub«d 
by W. S(M)oner, 377, Strand. 

Four signed "Madeley Del," pijblisbcdby J. W, j 
Soutbgate, Itil, Strand ; date, June 3. 1840. 

One, also by the same publisher, but alinwtil 
" Fred Froome Del." 

Oae signed '^ R. S. Harst, Ko. 3/' pabUshcd b; 
Ackermann. 

Al! tho above are the ssmo sir-e as the Mulreadyi 
envelope, but I have one double the size, called 
"The New post OtKw Kovdnpc,'* front a dMif;ri 
by Moll-U'>on*y, U.A.M : TIkjuiim White pab-l 
linhcr, 59, Wycb Street, Strand. This large oa«l 
was also issued in colours. A^ nearly all the 
names are assumed, it would be interesting to 
know the real names of the artists. 

£uii.r CoLR. 

Toign mouth. 

An illnitnited article on tbone appeared in lh4 
Ltimre Hour. I have not a Ale to coosnit, but ' 
should say it was al least fiftoea yean ago. 

J. P. BOKOXD. 

Tab Fobstth Fahilt (0»* S. ix. 100).—! ha? 
only just seen in a back number of "N. &Q,* 
question, signed Callus, relating to Ibit family.! 
1 have never seen a complete pedigree of tbi 
Forsytbs, but am trying to compile one. If youl 
correspondent is Htill desirous of infomiatioo onl 
this subject, 1 shall bo much obliged if ha vill 
communicate with me direct 

H. W. FoasTTn Haawood. 

12, Onslow Oardent, S.W. 

TKNsra (G*** S. iiL 493; ir. 90, 214: 
vi. 373, 410, 430, 470, 51», 643; vii. 1' 
172, £14; viii. US, 175, 456, &iif 
3941. — I have lately, in (prtog over 

of^y■right'i^' ' " - ^ 

coosidorabk' 
name of lenn*. ... 
oddly enough, ha-' 
the numerouiapeci: 
in your columns. 

In the first plarc-, o^ the nsm* U Kii^d 
English, wo ahor 
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feiUiir« of th« gfinie. Nonr, I b.ive cited in 1117 
ftirtuinaiy a puaotje from Spensor od the ttate of 
Irrlnori la which the rerb (0 (tnnit is ased in tbe 
sense of drlTinj; to ftod fro : " Tbe^e four garriaoDs 
iuaJDg forth upon the rnetuj will bo drive him 
frntn one Kide tn another, nnd Unnit hiin Kinon^; 
them." The only qaeation will be whether lennu^ 
here used ai a Terb, is not a mere metaphor from 
tbc nnuie of tbe fjame. But, I argned, there is no 
nccesMty for luch a stippoaitioDf inasmuch as a 
probable origin of tbe wnrd, in tbe sense required, 
louj he found in the Fr. ^imuer, ** to scarce, to 
boalt" (Ct)tf;r&Te), Bu. ttmun, to itift (Kilian). 
The m before a in timten would Dfiturolly become 
« tn patiiofi into English, like the m of Fr. Umps 
or tem$, in Eag- icnte. Bub in Wriphl's Glcuarieif 
|t. 609,1 find that f^n«?waj5 actually wvd iutbcsenffe 
of a boiling siere, nud in all probabilltj us a verb 
in the Kenao of bolting flour : *' Hoc taratantarum, 
Ani^lic^, a tout. Hie torataatariutor, Anglicc [as 
printed], a ccruare." As no sense can be made out 
of the form cmfari, it cannot be doubted tfanC it 
i^bouM really have ntood ttjitart, H in ohvinus 
that tbe o{wr»tion of boItin)( Hour would oirurd a 
uioac famtliur iainge for expressing the idea of 
hving Bomething backwards and forward*. 

H. WECowoon. 
21, Quceo Anne Rtreel. 

KoTAL Matuiiaok with a Sr.AVii (6»* S. x. 9, 
37X— Bouillet, Atla$ d'HisU tt Oiog., 18G3. Ri»ea 
llolhilda the epilbpt of Saint; deacribea her as 
"of&ixon oriym (d'oriKine Saionoe)," not naying 
word about ber position fu a shive ; stnlei^ ihut 
be wua married to Glovia II. , Kiii^ of Ncuatria 
od Burjjuudy, afterwards King of France, in 649, 
ae a religious at OheJtes in G<^, and died in 
At for bcr sons, " Cspet, Vi»loi», and Bour- 
oOf" ibey may, perhaps, he left to the Ji-w 
kprilo. Bonillet knows them not, but culU the 
sna roaJe of the marriage of Clovis and Bathllda, 
otaire IT I., King of Burgundy, Neuetria, and 
Branca; Childcric II., King of AuHlniftia, and of 
ifeaistria and France; and Thierry III., King of 
feustria and Burgundy, of Austraaia, and of 
Buce. 

What may hare been the birth of Batbilda, or 
athildis, I do not as yet find stated. But tbe 
phoue "Royal mnrriage with a slave " certainlT 
Btu tbe appearanee of connoting a slave by birth 
(like the so-called ancient famify of Hatt, who, 
fhether or not such was really the name borne 
^ their forefiilhers. were unquestionably of servile 
rigin, Uite, J. M- Keiuble. Cod. Dip. JEv. Sax.), 
rbicb B^Uhihla, whatever her parentage, does not 
,to hare been. The qneor. therefore, I nub- 
uus unanswered uulil proof is given of the 
uf a queen fnlfitling the other conditions 
of Axov., and who was of servile birth. 

KOVAD. 



^ItffrllsJitouf. 

NOTES O.V B00K9. ko. 
Rectutt de fac^imitff d I'Utatit d< t'EcoU rf« Charta, 

UvraUiin I IF. Forty-eight I'Utvt. ( I*Bri«, Pickrij.) 
Ws hftve already drawn the »tU-Dtion of our md«rs to 
this important psIieognipliiCAl putjKcation, ts^u^d liv the 
Dirtotor of th? Frtncli Eculo de« Ctikrtea. Ttio ihird 
fuciculua, wtitch hu rrcantty benn brought otit. a<|uiiU 
tbc two [inTious la point botli of bUtoricm) interttt 
Knd of artbtic finith. The plates ara tbt wnrk of M. 
I>ujirdin, and whrn ooraploted are to form 2fi0 •[>ectniens, 
illuitntinit the varlotu cbanclerUitici of tut'dinTal writ- 
ing. Of these 1!)0 krr now iMifnre us, Arntni^^d to m to 
make up 8TVcDt]r-fiT« distinct piKter. A fuurlb tivration 
is annnuncsd, which, in Addition U> niorp fncaimilca, wilt 
contain uvBriU tAhlu ullowinft the titudent to cluRify 
these d»oameot« either by order of dstei or by nibj*ot«. 
or, agnin, according to the lanKuoKei employtd. This 
fresb initslm«nt nill l«rniinkte ths fint volume of 
the fcriet. There ara two or three point* which detcrve 
noticint; in conncxian with this utfofut iwd valusble 
publicittion. In Uio fir«t pUce, it must not be luppoMil 
that we hftVB her? the earlieat effort tnado to ]iroride 
mattriftli for tbo pupils beloQKing to tbo Eools das 
Cbarten. This lit, no doobt, tbo flrst collection of 
roediaiviil faciimiles selected hj Preach erudition fur 
students at large; but proTiouR to it a set of upwards of 
600 ipeoimens hod sppcirod, dj-.nuh not for sale to tbo 
KtiDeral public, and rcserred oinlmiTely for the scholars. 
These ipecimens, taken at a time when the art of photo* 
graphy had not rcavhed iu pr«e«nt parfvction, wore not, 
certainly, worth while cireulnliuj; extensirely, and the 
eiauiplM whioU it is tntendod to puhlith htroafler will 
suffice to aHsiat Ncholars iu their paliaoKrapbic rvsearcbvi. 
^Vfi must, in the next place, allude to the extreaio rariety 
(kf the dncutritnti irboMn fur i^iilihcalioii. The prcai^ut 
faiciculus cuutains spevimeiis of liaadwriting beginning 
with (li« ninth oenturr and extenditii; so far as the 
etKhteciilh. liet us menti^o a few: Kratcments of a 
c«tato»;u« uf the DrcbiToo uf the Holy E}«e (fourteenth 
century); Knclisli slalule* (fo«jrteenth esntury); extraela 
from a rcKiilor uf the Chancery of Pope Alexander V. 
(thirteenth cantury) ; exnmiiiatinn conductad t>«fore 
the tribunal yf tlio Iiiquisitiuu at Alby in 1.3IKI ; pa*««C« 
taken from the liber nt/er of St. Maur doe Possln (four- 
teenth centuiy) ; Bible of TbcoIuIi-hu» (ninth century); 
trAiislntion of the New Testament made hy une of the 
Alliiitonsei (thirttentb ceolury). The eoncludi&K fac- 
liniile ( No. Id'J) reproduces tlis bi-einninK of the loioanoe 
of MauKis d'AiKreinont,from a Ms. of I'eterhouic. Cam- 
bridge. Thli last itam Icad^ ua to mention that the ez- 
traflU taken frwm MSt*. of a more particularly literary 
nature are ffvt in nuinher (Annier'e traiialalinD of TA« 
Dialotpi* of St. Orrpory, pruvorn;*!! songt. liomancc 0/ 
AUxawter, Ao.l, for the •implo ronson that, the coHec- 
tiuu being chiefly intended for persons itodytng palsM>- 
graphy and dJploiuatici, tha more asoful ipocimoas wvn. 
as a iiiattcr of coutac- ttiote of a \<'ffli, liiatnrieal. and 
political obtructer. Finally, the reader will otiaerTo 
nine frftgrooiits 15-13) in Dioiliu'viil G«niian; thoy refer 
to the small state of Montbeliard, and were seleetod to 
illustrate a series of lectures delivered at the Btolo dcs 
Chartei on the Teutonic languages. 

Ha Oldtr FoTM of tAc Trtai^tt of Fvtikyng* wjifA an 
ArttjU. Attributed to I>ame Juliana Uatacs, (8ntebcll 

The Am/I^t'i Notittool and XatwalUd Jitcofd, No. 1. 

(Sim|<kio, Manh&ll A Co.) 
MassM. Sat'-ukli, seem never (o tire of conferring 
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iliKt Hiej will meet with tba rucccm vrlucli •ucli enter- 
l>ri»e u llicin BO lliori'tiujlily ileMrvps. Tbia older form 
or lli« Titniyte of i'yuA-i-'i/e vif'h an Anf)lt U print«d 
from (I'f.- mrirn'criTif w'"'*! «»« foniierW in th>r po«8«i- 
eioTi '' I I : riun, Mr. Willioui HiirUort, 

LiiE I ir toruttiiig foftUirca of Mr 

Lif^i^i' ... I 'i angliiiK lilernturv, TIio 

rnkituaorii't is nrittcii (<a iWo kbccls oX pap«r ruldod 
(]ii«rU>iiifo, nnd i<i, itt'cnrdlniE to Frof. Ske»t, r'«»b»bly 
or »ri (ftrltar datt; iliAti llic miilJle of tttc AfteeDtti 
iwntiiry. If tlip jirolf8«or is T\fht — iirid wektiuw no ono 
wLu i* tif (ttr ijiixlilicd li^iiiTcuii 0|>itiion on Bitoh hsiibji^ct 
— it fulli'ivA that Air, Dcniiwin'a nianu^cript i» an oltlor 
rormuf ili-> ttL>n.tU« tliNii tliBt wbioli aitpeArcd tn Dkzoe 
JuUfiDa UnmcA's bo'ik. |>rii)Utl bj Wjnkiu du Worde in 
HM!. from wbittwfi hare Kud,our rcadora will euitj 
uiidoniliiid tlikt lliis Irnot is one of |ioaulia.r iittcr«at, 
ciiM'vinll/ MI Mr. SftU-bcIt liik* uccrt&incd, ft.ft<ir aooreful 
rnllHlioii t.f the ttxt (T (lie ni&nuicnpt vriili tbo Iflxt of 
Mtf(f, Ibnt ihtfrv ti » cuiii-i'lrnibk illffcrtnce betw«en 
tbem. nut only In the ortbnfraphy uid pbruing, but 
•ren in the mtiio. 

Tkt Jtu'ittr'i Nuttl'iih U to b« completed In twrlve 
Itainburi, nni] iacunJiicltd bjrtbv editurvuftbi* BiUutheai 
J'wcaiQTio. Under aiifU guldnnoe it ebould luccecd. 
The cover is ndornL-iJ with R.ti illuatr»liuii of the curioui 
bid noDiltiiii wLIl-U figutet oil tbo litlc-naso uf {.^tonard 
AIuoBir* I'ld fldulf t.f Fithtitg ifitH Iloott and Iaih. 
Atiiong the contoiiti h ill be f-urid ttn iat«rfratiiiK note bj 
Mr. W iitUiuvoa that rate old book I>r. Oirdinsr's Booke 
of Angt\ny. 

Wk bav« T<^«tiv*d % imiiilT ftAmpUlet eotiUcd Jiutory 

»f U.- .'■ ' ■ T ■ .' f:/n,alun I'itattUan. 

it I ^^btb Totume of the 

Ttn. I Kiwj/rt-jAtiv Archteo- 

twjicut 6uc.ti_t, ikhd io Hriiti'ii by our Ttiliictl corit- 
apondent Sir John Maolcnn. It la a tiir-dcl of succinct- 
tlcH, and in iln tffi-itly-five piigci will be found lUo btief 
history itMl chtunicro c.f 0,'iti GloQceiterfthire parifib, 
wliicb ii houndc'l on otic aido by the rircr Wye. Anti- 
(juBrifii ofi- *•■< oflrM panitil n«fty by tin* oibiUratlng 

IilcoAUrc . f rc«.»r<:li U.at tbiiyuro frei(in)n(Iy t«in)>toil to 
m loo diffusa ^b'-ii ihoroushly Intorv^led iritbciraulject, 
Sir John Maotenn lis* not. howcrer, fallen into ibid 
error ; and thiHigh hi* contribution to local history la 
conimendMbly ihurt. tt U, tit iho mme time, thoroughly 
exhauitiYc. 

' ' '"- *-rf.rJ Mstfjaiiai has n ballad of 
n, and an e<i»ty entitled " The 
•lie fiiitlicr of "IlU'.uric Whi- 
'.'ountif*," [n AH tkt 
'ire. Jolm Wycliffe 
... ;:. ,.Mtt nerindiiial. — The 
HvaumnrchaiM ' and on *' Our 
Lady t>f I,'tir(r«." — /-pwcwiit'* .Vf'.'rtrinr auiipliee n 
J'Mliii Tburkrray and 

Ibo ! in the Auti' 

tnatr _ • - NMitradamua"; 

>fr < i.l' l..ilHs'; Mr Mukell'a 

"A 1' ««l inlf>n<tt— Thft SaaUtK 

Jtrr. . niid a Ta!i. ' ' -i. 

"Tb-. . i a .M..i.d ■.. ^. 

H«h . ' C'>-:lit V '-'■ 



rrinoijial Uruit «n the 



etrk by ^ 
Muter Itu 
chtater."— 
Fear ^flu. 

la the aulj.i . 

Cor-ahiit baa tanays on 



edition of which la a Rcm of lyTtosraphical ezecatioD| 
Canada't i'ort : /V^toy Ihtwn vilAoHt iiantimgi^ 
Thought Ji*aifinff, or Afinltrn JU i/tln tVj ti/>i^iaf4, 

MtiFeM. WATXitLow k fioMi have jntii'^l )'' //■•'.< 
Sltteh aj }'t OitI Uwian Si,;-.!, odilod bj T 
Hake, and contaioirig n Uw cxurlloul iV.v. 
llbhop»]fato, Guii)»ondcr<ritit Hou*b, Kc. 

Ko. ri5 i.f £« I.ifTi aiipphcf titi admirably cba* 
racUriatic vottrait of iJEdtrrot. The o|>«ninj{ rMay '- 
on " Dildii'utaphld cC Mouotftaiibie Mullvicniuea,^^ 
M. Victor Foumel, 

Vkwt VII. of the E'\c\fclo)}adie Dutionarwot WfiL _ 
Coaaell $t Co. bat valuable articlofloa " Bar,*' " Bautift,^ 
"Baatille,"" Band/ic. 

Odh corrcapondent, the Rer, W. P. Creony, M.A., pr 
poaoK to publiab a " Book of the Monutnenlml Bmar'«< 
the Continent of Euroi*." Up IntPT. Is to loake 
aelectiDD of thoae barirtg m . < 

poueatinit uioat aiitit|uari:. , aj.j^l 

tu reproduca Ihem in faiM;..... .i ; ..; Ubj*,! 

A specimen of tlie wcrktuunphip to be employod gtvei a I 
bij[h cttiiuAte o( the vatuft of iu«U a Tolunic. 



fiaiirtt to GorrcfpaiiOrtttf. 

Wt mutt call tpteiat atttntionfo tht /oUovwy notita: 
On all conimunlcationa must be written the naote and 
addreai of the aender, not Deceeau-Uy for publication, but 
as a guarMit«e of good faitb. 

Wb cannot andcrtake to aniwer queries printoly. 
To Mcare insertion of couimunicationa corrcapomlenU 
mufll obwrre the following rule. Let each tti-ite. queay, 
or reply be written on a si-parAte slip of paper, wfui the 
»igiiature of the writer and auch address at hs wialiea lo 
Bj.|icar. Correfpondtnl* who r»'peat fjivcnr* are i«r]uested 
to head the aicond comniunic^tioli " l/u^licate." 

W. J. ("Knocked inloncucked bat ").— Tfaecxplana^ 
tion ia, obviouair, ao beaten as to 1m Ump tnoiub to be 
di'iihled up hhH o«rricd flat under the ann, like tUa 
cocked bat of an officer. Seo "2i.kO ," C" 8, x. ISS, 

CiiiB. J*», FtHKT {** Cricket").— Copious aotioca 
cricket will be limi.d in " N. k Q..'" '-'"' 8. lil.3*: 
IHS. 178,217; X. r»l:!; alao ^'i- B. xU. 48 : 6» au.' 
26(J; ii.]Wi,26S, 311,3»d: xlb '^18. 

B. T. DrxK (" Epitaph "O.-Ocouplw Its place ia tb* 
lUt, and will shortly apiwar. 

RcnKUT M. THri; T' " ■ ' ' 

faDiliiur fL-atiira in - 
ItitliwTrji of /'Ar.i' 

account, the Rloiaaiy t-f liuuitbgs, a. %*. " I-'eM 
noiuui." A loi>(t and Tuluble eaaay on the 
appeals in " N. k ti,.*' 2^ S. y. 3. Further infg 
U eupplied 2** 8. ix. \Ti, and cUewher*. 

P. J. O. (" Name of Celcbmled rcraon'O— ThskUa* 
sion is to Lr-rd OroTlll», who in ISCft, on Iha di«iti oC 
INtl. formed a miuiitry known as '* AU tb< Talenu." 

Editorial ComniOTiimtmn* «hnnlil to adilrFSSfs) tO ^Thft] 
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A LITBBARY CBAZB. 
(OontuiHft//roM p. 9Z.) 

IkUny pointn of coaUct between SliakBpere 
Kui Dnyton htve be«n cxbibiti'd. It loay, 
h« objected that too great prominence ia 
to on? iQcoTistdeTBblo inbject, but if it oan 
devlj Bbovo that, ia tbia one particalar, 
Sbakapere haa referred to current sabjeots of the 
dsj, H ilrengtbeBS the inference that all alluaions 
■hould b« tfaiu expUioed, and aidi as in fixing 
th«dAte. 
Oar Dantopblliat dvelli especial] j on two words, 
r, Aymn* and ij/irtt, aaoiibing to them an occult 
or Mot«nc ojeaniiiR nnknowo to readeri in general, 
h The word hymn occurs in Sonnet t45, thua :— 
" Cry 'Amen ' 
To «T«r7 iymn that able fpirit affoidj." 

iIb ta oeitainly pni ironically. The nieaDin^ is 
that Sfaakapere aaya '* Ditto " " to Mr. litirkc," but. 
aa b« ofM tba afgn of assent in its reli^ioaa form 
of Amen, be ooDUrta it with the word ht/mn to 
tnWaw rait ; bo, when A or B praiees the addreasee, 
P«« eobvea, " Tis so, 'tis tme." 
Hymns, bowever, were not unknown to Elisa- 
pi-nXf. for, beeides Draylon'M earliest 

iwn work. The Ilannony of the CfiureJt 

wiih Bfnntp £c., 1&91, Cbapniaii printed SHa 



Nnktot, the Shadmo of Night, contsining two 
pootical hymnv, 1^91. The Teraification is he 
above l>rnyton in eaRO and flow. Ho addressee 
night as a ;{oddesa, " I cannot do aa others, make 
Day aeem a lighter woman thxn she is by paint- 
ing." Sir John DaTies, the Ubettioe jndgo and 
satirist, printed Hymnt of Aiinxt^ oontAining 
twenty-six acro«tic8 on Eliztbelba Ke^itna, pro- 
bably in l-TiOS. Spenser printed Four f{ytn.n» in 
honoar of bearenly love and beauty, but, though 
dated 16D6, they were known much eoidier. 

2. Spirit opens Lhos, No. 8() : — 

"O, how I faint wlien I of you do write, 
Knoifing a b«ii<r tpirti doiU use your name." 
The coinparatire form here used implies one of 
two; doiirly the I that " do write" is thepositireof 
spirit, and the other writer ia, for the nonce, the 
eomparattvQ form, a " better spirit.** For iptTtt 
read "muse," No.tfft; "poet,'" No. 79; "pen," No.M, 
all synonymB. There is nothing mystic, snper- 
naiaral, or post-mortem here ; it is all Itrmg, 
working, writing reality, in the present ; the 
beter spirit is alive and "doth use your name"; 
how the name is ased belongs to the subject of 
dedioaltona. 

We have fjnrit again la &5, 66. No. 85 is 
araoolated with the word hymn ; No. 8G is the 
ciilminntion tknd finale of the subject, and, like a 
novelist's lUnoi'iment, H Is worked up to the 
highest pitch, but, as with all sublunary niAtterv, 
it will find its level if re&d by the light utfurded 
by preceding references. 

In No. Ki we have read : — 

"I Uiink good thoashta and cry 'Amen' 

To every hymo thtt aMo tpirit afl'ordi." 

Here the "able spirit " is the same entity with tho 
"better spirit" o(Ko. Si); but in No. 66 the idea is 
extended to an abstraction, thus : — 

" W'm it the proud full sail of liUgreat verw, 

Wna it liii ipinlt" 

Now this is different, A nun cannot be and not 
be at the same time. We are introduced to his 
double, his shadow : " Was it bis Hpirit, by spirits 
tnught to write above a mortal pitch t " It isa pan. 
Shakspeie, having once introduced the word 
$pirit M the ordinary equivalent for an author, 
intensities the thought, and varies the idee, ai he 
has done all through this series of sonnets. Thus, 

in No. 43, "mine eyes took on thee," in 

abeenoe. In 44 be laments that "dull substance" 
impedes his way through the elemfnts of earth 
and water ; this "dull stibstanco" is the "solid 
flesh " of Haralet. Id No. 45 the other elements, 
" air and lire," supersede the organism of bis eye, 
and bring tidings of his absent friend. Then, in 
Nm. 46, 47, his eye and heart quarrel as to who 
shall retain the imaginary picture thus visualised 
in No. 43 ; this should interest Mr. Oilton. Of 
course, the poetry of the thing is of the very highest 
possible standard. It was bis practice to flio^ov 



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[d<» a S. Aca. 0, *84. 



fto idea u m shuttlecock, nnd keep it BU8peDd«d 
in the iiir with the hkttledore his pen, then re- 
linqaish it, and take up another theme ; lo, the 
rpirit of Nca. BO, 8fi, a certain contoroporarj 
writer, is in No. b6 dereloped into " a doable." 

What Sbakspere means to convey is tbi^, viz., 
that, apart from the literary uatter produced by 
this aesomed rival in his ordinary condition of 
life, be raises the further qtiestioo, Has this in- 
dividual received a special ftfTlatnii ? lias bo l>een 
miraculously transported out of bis own body and 
brought into connexion with immortal beings, and 
BO obtained special aasistance } 

To proceed, " No; it was not his great Teru nor 
his spirit, nor bis compeers by night giving him 
aid [this sounds very humanistic, and is &Dg);efltire 
of certain well-known noctural feasts, say of rum 
and piclclcd herring]. Ko; not be, nor thataSkble 
familiar ghost which nightly gulU him with in- 
ielligence." 

We have no exact dates to rely upon; bat if 
Marlowe or one of bis well-knowD contemporaries 
were tfae better spirit of Ko. 80, the able spirit 
of 85, the writer of the great verse in 86, then 
Peele, Kaab, Lodge, Drayton, Cbnpman, Ric 
Bam6e1d, Barnaby Rich, and such like being the 
compeera, the lately deceaeed Robert Greene 
would be the affable familiar ghoat who waa re- 
productid from the spirit world over and over 
again as slepfather to nuuieroue pamphlets, freely 
maoafacturvd by suoie of these to-called "com- 
peen" but disavowed by all, lint there were 
more of luoh ''ghoits" about, and this perhaps 
would be the proper pUco to touch upon the pro- 
bable date of the sonnets, nhioh, however, will, I 
am persoaded, be best worked out by steadily 
proceeding with (he line of elucidation thus in- 
angurated. 

Tbo subject of dedications, for instance, is not 
yet eibauated. In No. H2 we read; — 
" I (rrwit Ihftii wert not msrried to my Mu»e, 
Ami tlierefar* trmyit wULout attsinc o'erluok 
TIk tiftnaUtl utinU nlik'h writerf a«c 
Of iLuir trnir subject, blcHinjs ersr; buok," 

" Dedicated words " is " underalanded nf all men," 
but the 4fqtiilur, *' bIea»iog every book/' bM not 
been properly illostrsted. In one of Drayton's 
historical works, I^nglmd'n JIiroict.il Kpistlts, 
printed 1506 bnt known to have Kcvn circnUted 
1696, and perhaps earlier, we have eIr>veo books 
and eleven inscriptions, vix., to tfae I/iidy Har- 
rington, Earl aud (\iunteiia of Bi'dford, iSir Henry 
and Lady (Joodeve, &c., ont' l.tivriDf ti p(ii4\ 
dwuion of one work; then 
lisbed his trannlntion of the j . 
dedicated the firat emotion to Lord Khd^x, and 
afterwards, in reprinting it with nHdifipm, fn- 
scribed it lo I'riuco Henry of \'^ 
brother of Charles I., and thereto t^ 
Tvnw to tfa* iJuko of Lennox, tbo Luid Ciun- 




cellor, Ixftds Balisbnry, SnueT, &c, inoluding, 
course, Lord Sotithamptoa. There are sixteen 
all of these " bleasiog!," and we know from 
Jottsoo's revelations that it was customaty 
multiply in MS. a prodaotion not in print, 
send a transctipt with a dedicatory epistls to e 
of an author's whole body of patrons. This mty 
be an cxtromo case of hard-npishneu; bat lOie 
another caae — we have much lamentation over tbe 
recorded relations of Lord Chesterfield and Dr. 
Johnson; I feel sare, though the fact ia generally 
lost sight 0^ that the groat lexicographer waa re- 
cognized as a claimant on that nobleman's genei 
eity, equally with the general body of dUn 
then waiting in the anteobamber. 

Then Spenser: his Fairy QutmU ded(ott«d 
Qaeen Elizabeth. No doubt he sent Her Msjeety 
MS. an early copy of his first thrue books, au ~ 
is known thai tbe qneen promised him a 
vnluablo con side ration— 500/. it is aaid, bat 
down by Cticil to lOOl.. and that paid grudgingly 
when be afterwards, in l.v.)0, printed this portion; 
and tbe poem still remains unnoished, the primary 
dedication remains, and appended we find veivca 
lo 8ir Ch. Hatton, Lords Uurleigb, Oxfordf&c^ 
$evmtten in all, but nut including Lord fioutb- 
ampton ; he, tbe iromort&l Spenser, mttit tbui 
have '* blessed " his own book. So this pi f git 
of Sonnet 82 ia to be read ironically. jL Q, 
( To U contiAHtd.) 



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MAOYAIt POLKTALBa. 

{Conttnunt from p. t\y) 
In tbestory hut told we clearly see interwoveo into 
un old theme a pot-pnurri of semi-ChristUBidaMk 
Again in tbo tnleof " Fisher Joe'* there ar« ide« 
utterly repellent to all onr notions of revef«ne% 
tbe Deity being but a strong man, and tbe nmli 
his helpers. This story^, togeLbor with tbe tuon 
the end, ia " new wine in old boLtle« " and both 
spoiled. Fiaher Joo caoaht n golden fiah, 
ttirned into a lovely girl; tbo two wcra at 
married, and went to a barren monntaltt, 
Joo Uid bis head on hie wife's lup aad f«U aiJaHk 
So soon as Joe was fast asleep bia wife slipped 
away ftnd crscbed her whip with » crack thai 
waa heard over "sevin times acrr-n cotmlrisa"; 
dragons appeared :ii f<aIao«; 

for this the f.iiry"lhu; v.k« 

hiubsnd. Joe waa dch^h:i:d wiLL kid uew K 
and set off to invite the lord of lbs tnaniir to 
with him on Whit Sunday. M\ ' 
unfortuustely, tn npito of the 

received froiii hts wift\ ho aUuw. j lu'- di 

see her. His lordihip at once fell violeat)/ 
love with tbo t.- . ■'.' .1 ('■'- ^■-' ' 
so bad that hc< 



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ftom the ctrriage. Three workmen, hoverer, 
ckMTCd the sick man by advinin^ him to command 
Jot to do ceruio Impotsible thin^rs. The required 
wrrjoes Joe succeeded in performioj^ by the 
lid of his vife, the lut command, the climax, 
being tbttt Joe ahoald iorita the Almighiy to 
dimter on Palm Sunday. Joe got to Paridiae by 
neeai of a mA^ie ho»e, wu ushered in by St, 
PM«r, delirered bis message, and wna charged by 
the Deity to return to the h^ron with bis commandu 
uCu Ihvkind of dinner ho required. Joe went back 
t« earth aud delivered his uiessa^e to the baron, 
vbo trembled in bis shoes at the idea of the Lord 
flaoti ag tohishonta. At this point the tale becomes 
ftDge medJey of paganism aod Christianity. 
'Locd deioended with .St. Peter, and they 
1 their way to the baroD'i,who, the moment 
ibem comiog, commanded his serranta to 
d bar erery gate. So eooa as the Lord saw 
ho turned away aud bule St. Peter cotne 
with hiru to the poor man's faouae. As they went 
00 op a steep aud ditfioult road, St. Peter was 
ttmioacded to look back, and, lo I the baron's pro- 
perty wM A sheet of water. When they arrived 
at JAe**, oar hero rushed out aod kissed the aole of 
the Deity's foot. They all entered, and sat down 
to diooer. Then said the Lord to Joe, " Set a 
table in this world for the poor and miserable, aod 
yog shail have one laid for you In the world to 
eomr. Good-bye ; you Bbidl lire in joy and In 
each other's lore.^* 

So ends this straojce tale, one of the many that 
Doald be quoted where the story-teller evldeutly 
draws upon his imsginatioo, and rounds off the 
tale with a moral for the benefit of his hearerB, 
or perba(ii atteiuptn to C'hristiaoise some incident 
that occurs in the older forois of the tnte. It 
Tooid be Ml interesting; discovery to find the 
tale in the earlier form (if any such exists), 
trxLo iLe tuodificstiona due to the changed 
ns of the folk. There are tales 
1^ ■ tiiiiK more nor leu than alle^riea. 

tbe taie beiii^ tiret of all told, and then followed 
by an ezplanatioa. The " Hua Lambs "t is such 
a taltt. A widow had three sons who wished to ^o 
oat Into eervLce. The eldest went " over suven times 
imo oOQDliiet, aud cvpu beyond that," aod then 
DMfc fto old man who en|t:i^ed him to look nfler 
bb btft kntbs, bit duty betn^ eimply to walk after 
Um Miaala. So IoD|^ aa they k^pt in a beautiful 
meadow be tended them, but when they crassed 
a swill •tream be siuiply waited for them till 
Ihey retomed, and so wn% dismieaed at eren. The 
SMOwl Mo fared in llUf* munner. The third lad 
tWa veot; bnC be waded into the stream, and, lo ! 
In flaeb ahriveUcd op, and he became skin and 

. .lidd in HoMtfKotd Ktoiria Jrom ikt Cand 
]'ht Uuiilb uid the D<TiI," Aitgumsao 



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bones, Whea he arrived at the other side Ui« 
baa lambs came and breathed npon him, and be 
was at once fairer than ever. 

After this they went on till they oitme to a 
meadow where the grass was very rich and 
high, yet, strange to esy, the beasts that fed 
there were meaKve and miserable to the but 
degree. On tbey^ went agnin, aud came to 
a meadow which was quit« barren, and yet 
the beasts that fed there were pluuip and fat 
as batter. PiUisioj; on still further, they came 
lo a vast foreit thut resounded with Umeutatioa 
and weeping;. Go looking up to see what was the 
eaaae of it the lad t%w that on every bough there 
was a young sparrow, quite naked, weeping and 
cryinf;. Next they came to au immense garden 
where two dogs fought till the foam ran down 
them, but they could not hurt each other ; beyood 
lay a great lake, where a woman was tryio({ to 
Bcoop up somethiiiK from the water with a apoon, 
but could not. Further on tfaey came to a 
beautiful, sparkliog streum; here the Ud thought 
he would like to stay aud drink, but upou sacuod 
thoughts he waited, and, lo ! he found that the 
stream flowed from the mouth of a rotUng dead 
dog. Moving on once more, they came to a garden 
the like of which eye had never seen; there the 
lid threw himself under the shade of a glorione 
lliwrry tree, Hhile his baii lambs fed arouud bim 
on the long rich grass. While he aat there a white, 
pigeon came flying in front of him. Riiaing his gun, 
be shot and bi( one of the white feathers, which 
camo fluttering down at bis feet. This he pit ia 
his pocket, snd followed the baa Inmba home, 
vrbere be told the old tuaa all his adventurer. 
" My son," replied the old man, '^ that plain iras 
your youth; the river the water of life that re- 
generates and washes all sins away; the bait lAmbt 
your angels and good t4'n<.'h«rv, who breathe new 
life into you ; the ill-fed kine the avaricious, who 
are miserable amid plenty; the plump kiue are 
those who have given of their little lo the pifor Ja 
this world, and who will feed heartily in the next 
world outof liiLle,y(>t will never buu^nr nor tbint. 
Those weepin;; birds are mothers who did not 
have their children bnptiz>!d. The fighlint{ dngs 
are relations who quarrelled over property in this 
world and will continue to do so to all eternity.* 
Tb'kt woman who was 5shing in the Uke so busily 
ia eho who in this world adulterates milk wittfcj 
water, and so id the world to come must lial 
milk out of water. The bright ptresm roeuiB, 
my dear eoo, the beautiful sermons of the 
clergy who preach, but don'c practise. The gurden 
ioto which you went is henveu, and now prove to 
me that you have been there." 

The lad produced the white feather, and then 

• Aniny remarks (Itat iUe inci>l«itti of ili« fif{liiiti^ 
dof^ atid tlie weti'lnic s^erroMt remind biui of the ils 
Bcripttons uiren iQ Daute* 411'r/AO. 



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[6<k&X.Aoa.«.' 



the old oakQ told bim that he was the white 
{Mgeon^ for God alwayi follows aud protoctp, cTeti 
thoQjth we do not know it. "That feather, too," 
continaed the old man, "is one of my ^af^en'; 
and takiu^ it from the lad he put it on the vacant 
place, breathed upon if, and all wii* well once 
mow. The jear being ended, " aud I may as well 
teU you it conaioted of three dayi then," the Ud 
had his choice of heaven or wealth; he chose 
heaven, and had health, wealth, and happiness 
fiiven onto him besidcc. *' He lives yot if ho has cot 
died since, nod may he and his pretty wife be 
your guests tomonow !"' 

WiLLUH UkKRT JoHSS. 
Yorkc Houie, Sklrbdck (Quarter, UuiIool 



Notes prou rne Bdrsar's Lcdgbrb or Ksw 

CoLt.EOK, OXPOBD. — 

lti53-4. " To the colIcctorB for Glnajiow in Soot- 
latid ii|K)Q the rcpresentntioa of tht-lr Krent loss, 
ftiiiuiiminii to lOO.WOt, by fire, by Ibe conRent of 
the VTurdcn and the whole iwciety, 41. To the 
colJectori for Marlboro hrIi, burnt by tire, by the 
Warden, &.C., 10^" Does any informution exist as 
to llie firts of Glasgow and Mnrlboruu^h i 

1661-2. "To two poor Jews reconiuiendcd by 
Dr. Pocock, 2i. To a Jewi«)i mbhi with com- 
mendations, Gi." These are specimens of very 
namerons entries of assistance given to poor trn- 
Tellers. 

1603-4. "To the old Catholic hishnp turned 
Protestant, it. Brief of di«treMed Proteitant 
charobes beyond sca^ 31" Who is this convert or 
pervert 7 

1670-1. "Torches when the Prince of Oninf;c 
was here, 23i, ^fl" Thi.i in a viait from the Prince 
of Orange, aflerwnrii« William III., some nine 
years previou!< tii hi» ninrn ij;e wi'li ^Ll^y of York. 

i685-0. "To tbo l'rvin;li Prnteittantii, 50/." 
This is port of thnt lofgo contribution to the 
Bufferers by the revocation of the Kdict of Nautes 
which gnveso much (•Ifouce to J;uue3 H. 

Jaues E. Tiiorold Kogbtis. 

House of ComniLim. ' 

"MeMDAClOX WdAXALUANDBl" — NoW thftt 

the true form of the epitaph on Sir Nnthaoiel 
Wraiall h.u been k'*6"» '^^'■^ '** authorship traced 
to ''a youu-f gcnilemnn of Oxford," it mny be 
wotth while Ut notice Itiu opiriiuu of *' n yuuni; 
fceullcmiio of Cnmbri>);;o*'QS to thctnistwortUioess 
of .Sir Niitburiivra statements: — 

er Oas^> ' 
nterfiicil wt I 
taipailotit ; Kii I 
J/ ' 
ft' 

* The ntns) endjn|[ <tf 8s(k»ly tales. 



into the tii»it Wom« if 'f-ilarin wliirli wa «i«^« m%e^ 

regard with ftdmii'* ■ "' " Hian 

tliotigb by no mc. ^l•in| 

cominriion for B :. 

SL 8euuiii 

m, Lamb'a CraduU Street. W.O. 

[See O'o 8. ix. 387. 457. fill ; z. a2.J 

CitAnoK8 AT CiiRi6T*a OoLLKOCy Camrrii 

le^i 1 — Tho fullovrint; is a OoU«g» bill at 
bridge fur an undergraduate: — 

Paid to IVfU'i Tutor, Mr. XitAatt^for UicAnrim»l 

^iica ttr. 

(lnllFp; for •iIiiiiiM"n ... >■. .» 

tiui wr'i bill from Lis admiisiiin to hi* eottllnaaircw 

Coal* 

Inciitiie Tur lii> chamber 

Commonn and sixing to Bur-.r 

L^utMreii 

nednukcr 

Uarbcr ... ^ 

Oook 

Making lili gown 

For pladh ... 

1... 

.Tamb% B. Tiioiold Bouits. 
irouso of CommoiH. 

Otrxn- BoitTDta Extraordimab-t. — In 
Timu of July 11 an " Oi^casiounl Corres 
dont," writing a long letter about Covent *l. 
Market, be(;an with tho following nurprii 
raent: "There was once a time, iw we I 
l£»ik Walton, when yon ccmld enjoy oit«r 
in the nei^bbuurhood which now Ilea bet 
Pentonville and hliutjton." Aniwell llilL, w 
Walton went oltcr-huoting, ii lorao little dUi 
from Pentonville. Jatmil 

TnB PsKRAOB, — tSnoh has been written on th* 

(►^ora;;e by lawyers and olhtr m ' 
fttitntional questions, but it in qn 
the real bcaringi of the hercditu 
uoderttood by any hut practical t,'trj< 
bus struck mo in readtuic maii} <-' 
"N. &tj.,"aud it would bo of » r. ; r. .it I 
if some of your corr<i^5i|mridentA o<>ni>i ->! |>1| 
knowledge to the elucidation of the subjev'L 

Of CQunc, it is popularly supposed Ihrre ii pnly_ 
one asfieot of ihc peerage as an b< 
and yet, apirt from the pnt«i> 
evident that our oligarchy is in vf ly >: 
ttonR to society from llio<>e held t>y tb 
siuitlur body ii. ' 
indeed, n very 
fjligarchy ri^ ^ 
[boi. ..f E.'. 
.tud tho cl' 
;o^ in itd X •■ u > 11 .''.', ■a::''. 

. r.n its n-.'.Y li.ikc'l un 

as thai »f the Bait«bburit«, 
I li C. C B, innniries. 

Apart from frnn croaUoni, lb» pMn^e bot^ 




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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



105 



ra1>J«ot«<l to Bacc«Mire mutalioap, which io their 
teodeocy reduce the weight of the oligarohical 
eUmeat, nnd create new connexions with Booiety. 
In one ii^pect — and as a matter of deiceat it is 
Dalerially to be rotfurdcd, and nUo a mutter of 
b»l' _- ■ ' -——.::v — it is nolnblj so if, fuUowiot{ S.r 
Bcv' -'S "0 adopt tbu female descent. 

Thcu . . n( the ducal and baronial fathera for 

IBob lo'ltvidujl, wcftUouM liiid ttiioip ftiioh uiaternol 
pftodfiitbcrni but Di<^ire who belonged to th<.> general 
miM of tociely. " N. & <^." has treated of pi^ersgcs 
bconniing extinct in Tiirious reigns, but »n eir«ctive 
mutMion is iniule when the peern^^e does not b»> 
ome extinct, but pitsses to n reninlo lino, u the 
doohjr of Norfolk did in this century, or passes 
under n crcilion by writ to an beiress, oc where it 
is A r«new/il in a feuiule line, us the duchy of 
KorthduiberUnd. 

Thus in each reign the researohef of your corre- 
fpoodenlj would pIiow muteriitl changes, and all 
iMkding to brini^ the pec:riifi;e back to its ori^innl 
I ■oorets. There is one comfort — that such eomuiaai- 
Btiona MQ he of no puty obaraoter, ta the greatest 
|conis who oontribntea to your ooliimni could not 
show tliat nit the Confierratire lords are descended 
ttfmi huktn or oU the Liberals from Ixirlwri. 

HVDK Cl&kkk. 

Otttbr Tamtli;.— The buildiog now called " The 
NitraTe" (partly used as a restAurant), opposite 
to Im Koyal (^lurts nf Justice^ was at first d&\%- 
"The Out«r Temple," Imt the name wna 
red, at the iRBlaQce(it,wag h-Vui) uf the Temple 
itie^. In Mr. Ij*»r(ie'!!i Jli§tory of London, 
. na, we rej»d, *' The Outer Temple, a little dis- 
trict of alley* and likoes, chtelly named after 
I Dcrereux, Eirl of E«stx, is In the City, and omen- 
[ablfi Ui the jiiriidiclion of the civic authorities.'* 
It n Ml frofu this tbut "Tlie Pulj^nro" 

mii; ■ ve been colled " The Outer Temple," 

|ftaii tDa& tilt.* name ia of some anttquity. 

Fbkdbhick E. Sattter. 
OHglileo. 

"NATTrBjfa DBtTH."— In the Mirror, Not. 21, 
LI8S&, there is mi inscription from a mural luoou- 
f ncDl in irthenter Church, Nortbumptonshire ; do 

daiim civen, but npjKirently of the lost century. It 

mBtoina the following tines : — 

" Since 111* ff troil '• guttt, lit* pul»e, K^rrati' Nature's Jrum, 
II«Lh Itvnl 'a &j)|irT>aeh, liiiil told iii^ fri»tMl be't cuiue ; 
Bf ' ' -' fhii'Ielay 

It Kiel liii way; 

.<•■ ii li* liftd trudjj 

T>' ■ - 1I16 LUtrtmll God." 

I Cim[>u. ,Mth that in Longfellow's Pm/m 

*la>t iiur h'-(trt>, though sloutand brarf, 
Bli ' ' -t drum are twating 

t lits Votbogrs¥c." 

CrTHBBRT BkDL 



CORIOCS Paballkl. — 

A iVcilttM^ in 1601/2. — " My coisn iliec toM itiB, that 
when ilt^c was ftrsC uorrted to hlr biutiKtiJ, Marcii^r, as 
•live roJe Iwrliinle htm, *li«'4' »lii)t di'wne, HtiJ lii* l«(t kir 
lit-liiml-. iK'Trr Itxiki \tM'^ to {iMn hlr U|i ; iot pIioo went 
•oc loii|i n-fifoto tli«t «li«c tmka it *"r tiiikitnIlT tlmt eliea 
ttiuuicl<t ncuor to Imve ciiuiu airatiia tu bim, hut t^ baui 
*uiit;ht n aerricc in soniR uiiknowne ptaro ; hut hi^ t Miko 
bir at Uit."— l!\trACt frnm TU Liititituf Jokrt ifantiint/^ 
Kam, fiiq., of Ou Middle Ttm/ffn, lUimtlrr nt-Late (iiiio- 
lUhcd by Ihe Cftiitdcn ti'rcieiy fruitt t))« Harlo'tan MSS. : 
the nrcMnUtion contrlhiiiion of W. Tit*, Ciq . 011 hti 
flection as Prciiiicnt. IS&d), p. i1, under dale vf Janaary, 

Dr. JofiiucHi Wtdding, 17St. — " I know not for what 
reason the murrtnyv ciremony waa not performed at 
UiiTniri);lii«iii ; but h rc*ii1ati<iii wm taki'riiiiii it ■h<iu1d 
bo at Pcrhy, for Khioli ]1u^[l(M(^ th« hride and bri<Jo* 
Kfiioiii tit cut on b'KBclick, 1 aupii'i^'j iu vory t;"'^<L | 
bumour. Uut lli(Mi|£h Mr. Topham ll«iuol«rk un»ii | 
archly to mention JoUnton'a harini; tjM him with rautih 
(jrA?jty, ' Sir, it wa* & l"Te marrinec on both rfdei,' t 
liiirc hoard fruni my illuttriout fricT»l the foHoKinic 
curioiiM nceoiiiit 'if their Journey to ctitirch uy»oii tUo 
iia[>tiAl mom [Juljr It):— *8it, iha bad ron.<l Ihu uld 
roiitiuicci, and bad got into her bo&il Ibi* riintAatiual 
Qoti<jQ that a wotoan uf iplrit abould um licr luvcr like 
a do(f. Ho, nir. at Qrat «ho told me that I rod« too f'lt, 
■nd rIiq ould not keep up with me -, and when I rode 
a httle atow«r iho pasMd me. and cmnplained that I 
laeited behind. I was not to be mado Iho slave of 
caprice, ai>d I refotved to bei^ia as I meant to end. I 
therefore puihrd on hrukly till I was fairly nut of her 
light. The road lay between two hedccf, so I wai sure 
■be could not miu it ; and I contriTed that abe ibould 
soon come up with me. When ihe did 1 ot>irnred bor 
to be in tears." — Uoswell's Life ofJuhtuon, ehap. ii. 

B. P, 

Ak Auericak View of Losdok TopooRAPnT. 
— Here is an odd note from the New York Critie^ 
Surely the statemente nre a little itartlinj;: — 

" Is anjtlihig known i>f 'Stratfurd atto Bowc * mOQ- 
tloned Iti Chaucer's Prelu'te to Ointftlfiti if Tultit 
' And Frencbe *he spako Tnl fayre and fetilly. 
After the MoIe of Hiratfoid atte llotve. 
For Prcnchfl o( Taiis was to biro uuknowe.* 

New Haven, Cona. W. L, 

" [Stnitford-atte-Bawfl is a parish in the onanty of. 
Middlesex, pr>'lHibIy cnlU-d 'stt^ Bowc ' fr-m the faiiioui 
pariah-cliurch of Si, Mary-lc-lJuw nituate therein— a 
church where tbo conicorntion of the Dlshop of Lntulon 
takps place. It has a penl oT cclohratrd boll*, nnd r-<>r>»na i 
boTu within sound of them arc jocu'arlf calle^l Corkneyi* ] 
bffcniis« the church (reator<-<l l>y Hir Christ'^'pbor Wren) 
Is bi the heart of tlio 'Ciljr' proper of bomlon, Aa t 
tbo Kienoh spt'k-Mi thciu, see tlie iiistructivr note ad Im 
fCivcu in Morris's ediiifii of tha Protoffve \nd Km'ifht't 
Talt, published hy MuomiUan.] " 

ClIAB. WeI^II. 

MlBQUOTATioHB. — TtseenHstmnge that an aulhoT'l 
80 well known as Mr. Jamea Riyn should huve 
made two miBtpiotntinos nn tlie Rnine pitge; but 
such i^ the case. In his novel '* The Talk of the 
Town," wbit;h be^an in (he July number of the 
CotiihiU Sfa'joiine, at p. 23 he writes, "'Hoar^ 
age'— the man was thirty If he was a day — 'and 
yoatb CAanot lire togctber.'" Of ooutw^ \.^« 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[6*8. X.Apd.9/ 



epithet "hoary* should be "crabbed" (SbrOte- 
»pe(ire, The PaistunaU Pxlyrtm, § xii". L 1). The 
other quotation ia made extremely vulgar : — 
" Cum tbo olork noil cuaa U>e fnnnn, 
Cwm, ob. ouM the n-liole eoncom f " 
Thi» ii from Bon GnuUiet's £<jy of the Lovthtv, 
and tbo quotfttioa should be in one line : — 

"Cun«d be tlie cl«rk and pftrsonr— ouned bo Uie whole 
coneem." 

If Mr. Payn thus blunders in bis qtiolnttons oo 
one pt^c, how many blundcn will tie niitbc in a 
whole QoTcU F, C. Birkbkck TcRRy. 

iNSCRtPTIOy trPON THIS ToWEE OF KrYSOK 

Church, Bkds. — The following ioicript.ion ii 
copitd from a tablet upon the externa) wext side 
of the tower of Keysoo Church, Ueds. I have 
preaerred the original spelling aud Brmngcment: — 

In Tnsmory or the Mieltty Hiuid of 
the Orcftt Ood uid our Savionr 
Jcsiii ChrUt Ktio I'returved the 
Life of Wil" Dickiiu April 17"' 1718 when 
be WM pointing the f^Ceeplo and Fell 
From the Kigt of the mlddol trinJow 
in the Siilarorer tlio South W««t 
P)n>i«l(«{ Lie Dropt upon the Baflvment 
Anil thetr IlrtMCti lii^ f^g «nd foot 
And DroTtt Tkiwn '2 Loxm Copein Stnne 
And 10 Krll to the Ornand with Itia Necic 
Upon one Standvd of Lii CItear 
Vben the other end took tli« firoand 
Which «■• the Nearest ef killing him 
y«t when Itfl tee be yn» Paling cried 
Out to his Brotlicr bnrd D&niol 
Woti tbc nikttcr J<ord hare Mere; 
Upon me Chriit Hftve merer open 
me Lor<l Jcbus Cbmt Uolp me Bat 
Kovr Atmount to the crouml 
Died Nor Wt» 1799 Aged 73 jean. 

A. H. MALOKhT. 
Sftlisbury. 

aurrlftf. 

Wo moit requeil correeponJonts dujrinjt information 
on fftsail; mAttori of only priTatf intereat, t^ affix tlieir 
nitmoi knd addreiwae to their r^ueri^s. In order tbit the 
tiuwen ma; be addreaeed to them direct. 



£mroLOor or MieraAt.: Ish^ko.— The out- 
bnak of cholera in the south of Fmncc having in- 
tn>du(^ed A Proven^-^I word into our newcp-ipers, 
it may tnt«re«t son>4 of yoLir readers tg point out 
that the older form of miitral wiu mtuitrtilf And 
that the word is, in fiict, conoectdd with fnnttre, 
the north-west wind baving been callttl mafjUai 
and atterwardi mUfr*il by reason of its (masterful) 
feroo and great violence «o the MedilerraoenD 
OOut. My query, however, ix ironctmintj the 
Dime of t1>e wind from the oppaiiie dirtK-tion, tie 
•otith'pMt, which ii» called in the ■umo locality 
the iiiiro. The wtird i« nttt given in the dictionary 
of Iha Kreoeh Academy. Liltni ({ires it, but 
«ffen CO etyiaology. Are we to etippota thkt U 




derives its name as coming from the quarter 

towards which tbemalte^wiDdr the miifral, issues 

(old verb ifsir) or goes } W. T. Ltmk. 

Blackliealh. 

Uathond Fahilt.— I shall b<> ^lad of onyj 
forniattriD as to the ance«try of Satuiiel Knymo 
of St. Giles-io-the-Fielda, rnerchani, who 
Sepi. 7, IT'JO, baving married, Maroh 2, i~it 
ftl' St. Giles'o, Cripplcgnte, Anue^ daugbt«r^ 
Nioholns Skinner, of London, merchant (see 
Hutchins'a l>or*ei, vol. li. p. llt-S), and had a 
SOD John Kaymond, of Tower UiU^ brvwer (was 
he not at one time of Oatlandu I'ttrk, near Wey> 
bridge, eo. Surrey 0- M.P. for Weymouth 1741 to 
1747, who died Jan, 2<t, 1782, ntj^ savcaty, 
having married BritADuia and Mary, daufcbters of 
James Ixiiube, of Hackney, and b»d, with. oLhac 
issue, John Raymond, who June 2, 1780, auun 
by royal licence the aidditional surname of 
oa suooeediDg to the property of Koirford 
CO. GloQoester (see Burke's LnmUd Gattry, " Bay- 
tnond-BnrkerofFairford Park"), wbw tnatritd^ fint, 
Marthn booth and, secondly, Margaret BoddiDgtoD, 
iiiid left issue by both wires. It is said tbal 
Samuel Hiyroond was descended from HaymoiH), 
Count d'Ku of Nonnnndy. I should be glad 
find that this could be traced. 

RiroIKALtJ StKWAUT BODMVQTOa 

DoaconsQeld Club, Tall Msll. 

TiTAMRS LoRB.— Is any reader of *'N. & 
acquainted with siny published bibUojTraphy- 
works relating to the river Thames I I have 
lect«d over » hundred, but feel sure that 
must be many more. Sug>;e<itiun« wliera 
relstinj^ to the subject muy be found (excloslraof 
the public librtiriea) would greatly oblige, 

A. a 

AoonsTiK KiKo. — Lord MocauN':- 'f 
England, voL i. chap, lij., '*Bt.-U« oT 
the End of the Beign of Charles H.," >. 
alludes to a curious confeMion by !■ 
King, the son of a clergymaa of tb > 
England, executed for highway robbery as Oof* 
cheater ia 1C73, as tntere«tiog frr'nt nrratiBj 
particulars of the inlercounie m n 

innkeepers and ostlers and tlw " 
road"; but, cnntr.iry t i 
does not inform bis ri- 
be fouud— iudced, ho ^:ivi 
than nauifl and dii(<*. 1 hi\. 
I CRD tbiok of, but some suu.^r- t....'. ,.; ,. 
the mindi of Homo of your readers tinkno 
overbokod Hy, 

KuTtKT or Hauipoy, oo. NoaniASTs.- 



because Kmley, or El 




FERLES. 



107 



ia Torlubirc, tbi* face ulciof; iU name Llurernmi. 

l)W point ind nn ihn origin of the fnniily 

"fc., A i&nure with liU club urn.) ' W iufor- 

I dhall &Uo be pLiriiculiirly glud to receive 

iftJl eopy of tbe matter in reference to the York- 

' coat, noticed by Papworlh id hi^i Dictionaitf 

I 0/ jlrrAf, and «tnled to be in the Uurleiiin MS. 

' 1'1'>4, fo. IP 1. MoreoTer, I am desirous of hifing 

'•( the tettletiient of the brnnch of 

..cuiJjin CO, Somerset This miut 

.ken I'Lice .ifter tbe marriape of the head of 

lily with the duiighter of Ifodirin, Bishop 

i.nnd Wella. The dnte of this iwirriage 1 

Kit got, but very likely it wns about 1579. 

Frtome in tbe forms Euiley and Euitja does not 

appear in Somerset, however, bo fnr as I know, 

aalil i1-,. f.M ivt'iDg century (viflv Biglund's Glot, 

owi ' j'ug. c( O'eHfii, vol, i.). The old 

I mJ^ °tern braDcb be-:ir the ti.iuit« device 

I Lbo*e oi ihe Helmdon family. If, na I think, 

the &inily origiaate<l at Emley, tn Yorkshire, it 

tuQit have been at & very early date. Besides 

ixV'iOi* their name from that place, were they 

uitfd of (he njanor? They held that of Helradon 

Is tba reii^n of Queen Eliz:ibeLb. Antwers are ro- 

<rt Co P. S. P. COKMKR. 

I ElKbtceoth Strtet. PbtlaJeliibla, Pa. 

iiryjox Familt. — Can any of your readers 
I iaform tne if there in any family by the name of 
" '■■ Britain 1 The name ia mentioned 
■ifi of Norfolk, from the Hnrleian 
ii»i;-v-'. t: i'l.. 1 by llie Kcv. S. If. Dashwood in 
[ 1S7&. The family npp«ured in SciOiale imd Cam- 
bridge, Mouocliuseu-', in 1633-CU. The m.ile 
hne of Jaraei, on early settler of Cambridge and 
iLr, i.ru.in il "^t tltr of Hartford, Con neoticut, alone 
1^ tbe derivation of the name ? Any 
.1 be gr;itufully received. 

CflAs. S. BKaioM. 
Xawloa, Mata^ C.S. 

BaRTnouMi79 Caiiparcs, " rvAartiiiiTs Vktr- 
I r If ST-cT»).ifA "* A..uu.Iu.1it.n liiTtJ.— Hn4 this 

'li, and if Kfi, 
-I ' ' < luot ajjiiat nie. 
JWiir '>. A V * B. 

vof th«otRn«rmifl wnrk4 of Ui< yAanjr^r t'oii^fer 
L ba^ we bcUevc, bcea trauahuad into Bog- 

OiUK CALLRO Tni UnrAr, 0*K. — Can any of 
ftnt oorretpQDdents infortn me what »firt of jjume 
'na WA<L, nod whrn ir,«;nmed I I h.ivo [q my 
iieauuo copy p'f « >!r,,rit. whii?h will be found in 
" ti ('/ IfiC J ■ vol. i. new scriei", 

•oi*r:Ll Rt . ■'•, Edinburgh, by 

11. ;ipi».)iuMiitf C:ipt. William 
'.ie, parish of Kiocatdine O'Neil, 

__ and •Icitiittfi ibirine alt the days of bii 



with full i>i)wcr tn hitn and bin furetwids to eiere'iM Ihfl 
Mid Gnai« tbrowout tW kdI vrrry pairt of our cud Ririg-J 

il'Uii of fik'otliitid. Cntnnwmlini; yuu k!1 our eiidi Hlieriffi 
of our ShuritJdatiiS, ttc, uid all ntlmra our J()il|r<>B nnd 
.MagUtratfi within oor iftii Kincdont, to D'.Tnutt tba ' 
■did WiMiam Frusr and hu foresaid! during Itii lifotytna ] 
to practiM tlia mid <Jftm«, he. liifcn Kt our C^mrt uf j 
Wliyt«bBll tlm 2S"i day of Juno, ICtJS ymn. and of oupj 
ti<!t;;n tbe HeTont«iiitli year. Per sigfiaturam naaii] 
If. U. N. regis mpraicHptam." 

Wk. N. Fkaseil 
Tomaveen, by Aberdeen. 

StrsaBO.'rs : Cdirdroioxs. — Where tholl I find 
any listi or acooiinU of chirurgeons between the 
yearalSOOand I6()01 Were they obliged to register , 
theouelvea, and if ao, where ? I have before tue 
several probatea of willi proved in tbo P.C.C. of 
French rcfuKcea (a.d. 1085 to 1750), in which they 
are described U9 "ohiruri{eon4,'' and as having lived { 
in the parisheji in the neighbourhood of tbe Strand 
and Charin|{ Crcva. C. Mason, 

2?, Emi-erori 0at«,8.W. 

BsK-tO!! Fauilt. — In the LmU Mercury 
Wukly HuppUmtnt at prasent some valuable in- 
formation if) forthcoming respecting the Yorkthira 
Bensons and the family of the Archbishop of 
Caulerhury, Perhapn some of the correspondents 
to "N. & Q." can give answera to the follow- 
ing queries. Henry Bcnsoa, M,P., of Knares- 
botough, 1641: who were hla parents, whom did 
he marry, and what were the names of his two 
Hons who Bitsintcd at his election i Woa Henry 
Benson, of C*harlton, Northampton, who married 
a. danjjhler of Henry Grey, Eurl of Stamford, 
about UI28, the same M.P.' H<>b«rt Benson, M.P. 
for Aldborough 1G73: who were his parental 
Wm. Benson, of Melmerby, indicted at Bicbmond 
1608, and Oiwnid Benton, of Well, Lodict«d I6O8: 
who were their parents, and did they leave off* 
flprinx ! William Benson, of Whitby, married 
Dorothy Chapman, daughter of Ingram Chapman, 
which lottrAm wu born in 1682. The son of 
Wm. Benson and Dorothy was burn 173S. Who 
were the parents of the aforesaid Wni. Benson, of 
Whitby ? Lkovric 

BrnoH'tf " Fare thkb Wkll." — I lately picked 
up fonr octavo leaves with marks of havmg been 
stitched. On the first page was * Poems | of | 
Lord Byron." On the second page, " W. Wilson, 
Printer, 4, Oreville Street, Hatton Garden, 
London." On the third pnge, "Poems | of t Lord 
Byron | on bis [ own Doroeetic Circumstances, | 
Fare thee Well ; I and | A Sketch from Private 
Life. I London, \ Printed for Kltin^fham Wilson, 
Royal I Rxcbange. | 1816." Pages A, 6, and 7 
contain Fart thee WtlL Tbe back of pujje 7, on 
which one would eipect to tied A i^iutch^&c^ is 
nonnmbered and blank. Is this tbo genuine 
original edition or a pirated edUioo } 

DOSUKTSD. 



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NOTES AND QUERIE 




"Thk EdousiniAs's Welcome."— Sixty-three 
jTMn aico, when I wm fonrteea jeftnold, I did a 
pi(«e of orDfltnental penmnnabtp, for which I usod 
some rhymes called " The EoKlishmfln'a Wolcoms." 
I remeniher four lines only : — 

" Prw to cntTW ami free to go, 
Freo to fttny a nii;ht or to; 
Free to e^t and free to dnok. 
Free to »peak and free to thiolt." 

Can you help me to liad the whole? 

B. ArPILBKK. 
16, Leopold Street, Derby. 

HsBLrpBWATT. — Td DagdaU's Vititation of 
YarUhirt, 18fl8, ooctirs iho following entry : 
*'Tlnimas neblethwAyt, slayno at Mrtncbeitnr in 
the service of Kinit Charles the first, h9 1041." 
Oan onj looil iintiqunry eliicidute the entry, or 
the olericy of the cathcdml or other nncieot church 
of the dttte supply a copy of th^ register of burinl ? 
G. Osbl-ksr Brownk. 

Sliireoski, near Workup. 

CoLitniDOE*s Tomb.— Some twenty-Rve years 
ago I visilcd the burial-plnoe of 8. T. Oolwidne, 
nod my impression is tbat I looke*! Ihrniit;h a 
graitOK into tho vniiU, and that a ({Iaas pUte let 
into the cnHin nllowpd iiic to see the poet'? face. 
Since (hen the chapel of Ili^htiate Grammar School 
has been built over the crypt, nnd Herbert Cole- 
ridne has been buried there, I found, on risiting the 
place Intely, that the grtitiog has been built up and 
tbe Tsnlt closed. I could not learn from the cn^- 
todiao whether my recollection of its former state 
ia correct, and I should bo glud to know from aoy 
of your corrMpondenti whether the poet's featnres 
were vUible formerly, as I euppoMi and when the 
changes in the tomb were made. G. G. 

PniiroK Oborok or Denmark. — When Prince 
GeofKO of Denmark went to Bristol^ I think, nod 
the mayor nnd grandees did not like to inTtte him, 
fearing they should not do things properly, n ptuia 
worthy citizen, named, I believe, John Duddeston, 
said it WAS a shame that the queen's hnsband 
should dioe at an inn, so he asked biin to come to 
his bouse and partnke of a roost joint with hiu^elf 
And his wife. The prince went ; end afterward)* 
Queen Anne invited Duddeston to London, nod 
knighted him. C.in any of yonr renders tell me 
where the anecdote ii to be r>>nDd, nnd whether 
tbe samcB of the place and the person nre correct 1 

JUI.IA GoDDAftD. 
[In the tlilfd volume of lir'ntui FaU and PrttenU by 
J.K. Nkbol., F^,A., «n<l Jnlm Tariff, tbo true %U,tt 
li iiivcD. The Iiftft of PriMf Oenrge. sctxtnUnK to Itits 
•ooiiiiiit, wni ft wealthy (obacconlit and a buronet of 
twsire yean' itaotling.J 



nold» in the early part of the present century ? 1 
should ftUo be glad to know, if possible, who is 
the present possessor of the picture. Pozxlkd. 

Habt ST.— Addressing the IaviaibleOir1,Xt 
■aye:— 

" Oh, who tliat has o'er onjnyod rapture oom|iUti 
WoiUrt ailt how w» feel it, or why tt U iWMt ; 
How MTi are cmfutcd, or how parllclei fly 
Through the medinra rofined of* nUnco of a •*jb!j 
Is there ono who but ODOe would uot rather 

known it 
Than wrilton, with Harvey, whole volumes tipno \% 

What Harvey is here alluded to F Jatoxi 

A Frkscs Paixtrr. — R. 9- ' - 

ploMant story Au Coin du Feu 

"LoSculpteurde la Fori't- Noire '^j --. i-rt 

dix aoB qu'nn artiste a fait sa reputation en peig- 
nant un petit chapeau snr un rocher en forme 
fromnge." For the purpose of an annotated 
edilioa of that book a friend of mine would J 
glml to ascertain the name of the artiat to 
Souvestre alludes. H. 

Oiford. 



pei«- 

ne d« 



>t\KTKn rRKWt— t ■ 

inform me who w.is M 

(as Henry VIII.) was paiutcd by Sir J-jsliiia iUy- [ ftt. .^lartin' 



CnTPPLEOATECHtmcHTAED.— Tandfr*taDd i 
a few years since, the earth which wo» escpi.vs 
on the occiuion of making n piihway throu 
churchyard was ihrowo over the tombC 

such quantity as to bury them. Can at, 

of " N. & Q." inform roa whether, previontl; 
this being done, tbe epitaphs, now hidden, 
transcribed; and, if so, where a record of 
may be wen ? Dukubvi 

Lalor Fahilt.— In an old MS, pedij 
come across tho name of Mary !.■'"* -^'' 
leeiu!', wni nn Irish lieireAt, and wo? 

country "Mary of the Ilillt." She : 

Thomas Vicars, captain in the army of the 
of Esitex, and secondly Viscount CUog 
This Lord Claamatier is mentioned 
joined, with all bis family, In the ret 
1641. und all bis (Mtates were confix 
sequence. Lady Clanmolter, it "pf 
Pari?, where she founded an 
gratuitous education of any of 1 
nameA of Lalor, Vicars, ond 
existed until the French liev 
of your readers enli«htco lue "m m 
nay if anything is known of this Mary J 
bor ancestors and dexcendnnls, or of llM^ 
tion sbe founded in Paris t 

Mahti:*.— St. Mirllo is one of the mc 

tcrcitiTii: r:uni.n in (hp palendAr. Vfk 
iin ! cjititfitr^ ond ride 

rr'' cnve rise to oo» afj 

<:i tVer {'I 
jii "A 
Manifliuaj ia thp ui:t<- J'a 





NOTES AND QUERIES, 



109 



pilPL Does it mean thnt evtry pig has hii day of 
dcftUt, or, u irc mj, " Ererf dog bu his day ** i 

C. A. Ward. 
BamntMk OilL 

Cartooji bt H. B.— Whnt u tlie expIaBation 
of a cartoon entitled "A Core for a Broken 
Head," H. B. Sketches, No. 597 ? 

R. M, M., Jun. 

Xcmruau StirKnaTrnov. — AcoordtDg; to Mr. 
(%4tlef Egbert Graddock, In tht Tmneaee Moun- 
fi*i«j, ft duurm for asoertuning a girl's fato ia for 
her to go to a crosa road and say as foUovs: — '*Ef 
I 'm A-goio' t«r ninrry a youDg mrm, wbiatle, Bird, 
ffblslle^ £f I'm a-t;oin* ter marry an old man, 
low. Cow, low. El I ain't a-goin' ter marry no- 
body, knock, Death, knock." Whnt is* the 
Earopeon origin of this 1 Htdk Claritk. 

Aduiiui. AfATHswa. — In tha official letter 
app.-f ';-_- ''lis ofllcer to the command of the 
M. licet Jn 17-13 I find the word«, 

"tii. .->..,..<;> hiu been pleased to rtineUiU Mr. 
MaUi««« to his rank io the nary, nod appoint him 
IoIIm ooismand of his fleet in the Moditermnean," 
tta. As I am engtiged on n work bearing on thi^ 
pctiod, I ahnll h« obliged if same of your corre- 
ipood«iits will infunii me of nny wotk wherein I 
cu And paniculara of this officer prior to the above 
ippoiotmeDt, the cause of his retirement, and 
idut became of htm after hU diamiual by court- 
BBrtiol three years later. Axfrkd Dqwbov. 
Arts C(ab, Ha&orer Square. 

B«1A«U8 O'Connor. — Tnqnisition taken at 
Ki|la»ny, en, Wnlerford, Sept. 27, 1C37 (Pub. 
RMurda, Ireland, vvl d.i(«d 181G-20, p. 60S; 
loqaisitioa No. 77. Rolls Office, Dnblm), Who 
*M thL« Brinn O'Connor, of nhat ancient sept? 
WM rp, ia Wiaerford, is " Killnany " ? 

P. S. P. Cower. 
^BtoXb Eigbteentb Street, I'biladelibia, Pa. 

AsCBDKACo** W1LUAM8, or EDiXBuron Aca- 
TieMT — T ^InijI be grateful to any one who will 
iiQ {*■> any puMlnhed noltcen of this 
; ir other tlmn thul given hy Arch- 
r io his volume of JUmxmtctnct*. 
1 to bear dirtcl. 

Ar.itx. Kkroobsou, LleaL-OoL 
Sl^tiMws 9tr«tt. Eaint>tiri:b. 

Eciz&tirTU Aelscott.— I ahonld he (tiad to know 

ri< r: ,.i„.-f, ,,„lv ,1 ,1,.^^ r.r.,„i nine, 16-20) of 

't, of Anopry, 

; alxu if her 

: wiibont mue. If neither 

ititiroa of the Arscotta would 

xita of tlie danghten of 

.. wife of Edward Ti«- 

ej, ui<i X-uitlicrinc, wife of Humphrey Prons, 



of Ohagford. See Col. Vivian's VintatioiiM vf 
Devon4hin^ p. SO. Edmukd M. Botlc 

EFrTAPR. — The following lines on a man and 
his wife are stated to be on n tombstone in some 
churchyard near London. Cftn any leader o( 
" N. & Q." say where f— 

" Tlicy wore bo on« lliat none could mj 
'Whieli Md rule or whether dM ohey; 
Ue ruled bccatiM the wouM obey. 
And she in thos obejinc rulod na well ai he." 
Eijw. T. Dua». 
I/Ons'LvIe IU>ad, Barnes, 

[Tlicto liue^ fakra been mora than ones quoted ia 
"N.i ti." S'i» H. til. ilGO, ft ct.rre*i>ontlont iftyi they^ 
come fruta Warwickshiro: y. i^), Mlc Piviii A. Buim 
aaT9 lie ba4 ecen ihem ftfiigncd to Paul Jennin Foley. 
B. 11. A., 6'^ a. T. llG, ikja tlic^ ars laid (a be oa a 
tombitooo in Croydon ; Ma. H. V'. &0T1>, p. 205, lavi ho 
thiult* tboy are by Qcorice Uecb«rt. No exact informa- 
tion appears obtainablo.j 

Authors of Qootatio^s Wastbd. — 
" Et jnedicje ailiunt artci herlMrumqae poteatat." 

C. C. M. 



Brpllrtf. 

A PLBA FUR PLACE-NAMES. 
(C"* S. X. 05.) 

I qnite agree with W. M. C. that the cnllcctioaj 
of placc-OATues will be of great value. We sbn' 
never know anything certain about the etymology!' 
till we condescend to do the drudgery of collectioa 
6rsL All turns upon this; and Englishmen may 
as well lonrn the fnot by hcnrt at once. 

1 have by me the second edition of Mr. H. 0. 
Hope's Dialtdal Plaet-Nomsnciaiure, which is an 
attempt in this direction. In his preface he 
rightly aays, at p. xi, that I recommended him to 
use "some exact mode of representing pronnncia- , 
tions, anoh m gloseia." But be did not take 11171 
advice, because his work would then have been a 
sealed book to all who do not understand glosiia 
I have to reply that I do not care whnt system is 
adopted of representing sounds, so long as the 
system is somewhere rxplnined. Ho carefully re- 
frains from ant/ explanation of his symbols, so 
that his work reniaios a scaled book to all sciontiSc 
Morkern. The same will huppcn in future tn the 
case of all similar collections They will all aliko 
be useless for scientific pnrpo?ei, unlws some 
standard system of pronuncintlon be employed, 
Olossio, or pftlipotype, or Mr. Sweet's romic, 
or the system emnfnyed in Mr. Sweet's /fi«- 
tory of English &tunda will do, or anything 
elni} that i» dtjinite. But to tnke the common 
Protean spelling as ft piide will not do ; there is 
DO laying hold of whnt is meant by it. Thus Mr. 
Hope tells as that Kyo, in SulTolk, is prononnced 
Aye. Does it, thenj rhyme with my, or with ma>j \ 



i^b 



^^ 



no 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 




We are not "spioxes," lu Mr. Yellovpluib sayv, to 
gooBf Ruch dark conundrums. 

Oae thing that ba« to be done is to bare a new 
name-index to uU the Anglo-SAxon oharteri. Mr. 
Bircb it now roprintmg these, an*! promises com* 
plete indexes. I bope wa may get them. 

Another thia;; that has to be done i« to collect 
and tftbnUte every name in Domesday Ilnok, adding 
the modem name where it ia ceri-iitily tcnon-o. 
Oaesaea are mucb wor^e tbnn uaeliua, Tor they niiv 
le:id| binder, discoaraj^e, embarrj.?^, And perplex. 
It in desirable tbiC any one who worIc4 at this 
sboiild learn Bomcthin^ ab<)iib Old French and 
An^to - Saxon proouDcintioci, or be wilt dr^w 
sucli a remarkable cindudnn tu uno that bos been 
fJrondy drawn, tliat. Bri^htbelmntoo cannot mean 
" tbe town of Crighthelm" becauao of the Domes- 
day Bpelliog. Walter \V. Skkat. 

W. M. 0. starts a very naeful idea. It U one 
Ibat fthonld command a conatdemble iopport. 
There it eridcot bail? for the form.ition of a society. 
The Place-Xame Society would lound stranRoIy, 
but perhaps Society for the Inveitlgation of 
Place-Namen would not be unsuitable. The 
■U0C6U would depcnil greatly upon the central 
orgaoixation being effisieot for registration and 
the indexing of the stores of gathered information. 
It ought to be a publishing society, cironlnting 
amongst members tbe chief part of the information 
tbnt came to hand monthly, wttb an index to tbe 
printed numbers yearly. The main index would 
zemiiin alone in the central nrchircs of tbe society, 
and could nerer be printed during the cxinteoce 
of the society. But this monthly isaua oirciiluting 
would immensely slimulalo tbe study and con- 
Riderably facilitate it. It might he arranged rery 
mucb ns is our admirable " N. ^ Q." for refor- 
riog from subsequent communications to those 
which bad gone before. But no triple division 
would be required. As to the system of pro- 
nunciation to be adopted, I think notbing so 
good as Alex. Melville Betl's ViiU'U Spsech ta 
likely to be devised by anybody, and 1 wonder 
much that it Im^ not been adopted by the com- 
pilers of the New Dictionary, we are bound to 
auppose that its system was taken up after wise 
deliberatton, but to me, as an outsider, it teems 
toeonilitnle a ounibrfius muddle. 

I do not think tbu any olbcr method than 
Bell's will he adrK]uate to tbe reconlini; of ancb 
Tery peculiar niceties of sound us will uriie in 
local dialfctjf, and \V. M. 0. has shown excellent 
asgacity in dr.i«ii i tu the neceiaity of 

tbe strict prooiin- recorded. r.iniMT;ij;c 

U •/>oiwti, ati ' car that •< 

spring. Sp,; n— it »ter. 



» si- 
rs (^^^ 



lived nil along the same, bos de«oeoded from 
to ear. and tlierefore presents mill to any man' 
with an ear tbe true bisia for etymology to ex- 
ercise upon. The G-incb Ordnance Survey 3 
is another excellent cu^gpstioo, and W. M. 
is entitled to cordial tbauki from all readers 
*' JI. & IJ." who lake any interest in place-names. 

0. A. Wxfto. 
lUvsrsiock Uill. 

Every lover of bis fatherland and htB motb 
inngiin will full in with the suggMtion 
W. M. C; but what working plon is to 
fallowed with tbe m.\teri.il« ^fiihered i Is 
gatherer to keep his store at borne f I mys 
Wgan the milking nf A dictionary of towo-nafi 
some years ago, but tbe work has been stopped 1 
more pressing needs. I would sugg«>st tbe for 
tion of a society to the end mentioned, and eeUtj 
meeting' times. lam willing mys<.df to underb ' 
North Middlesex as a start. It spems to mtj 
would be the best for those interested to node 
the work lying just around tbeai, and send lo tt 
names to "N. & (^., "or elsewhere »« agreed. tog»tll 
with tbp information as to what thpy are aboulj 
undert:ikB. It is to be hoped that tbe la 
numbers of lovers of Anglo-Saxon (or the Tent 
Kugllsh tongue*) will recntl tbe fable of the adv 
tages of unity, tvnd not let the muvement 
tbrougb from lack of bond. F. T* NoRRli.j 



ToTBiiisM (C* S. ix. 420, 494 ; x, 73).-< 
tainly it is well known (or rather, well a.«c«rLaini 
that the syllable -ing has many mean'" ■■ ' * i* 
heard people deride Kemble'e bIau 
the tribal -iny who were in utter 
what be really says. It may as well ' .e 

more that be Mctually gives a list <> i 

in -in'j to which his tribal eTplan.Tii«a ■■' 
Neither Tyningbam nor CulJiDgbam is lUIu . 
in that list. 

Perhaps it may interest some to see thai 
pusnge in .^Eifric the Grammarian, written in I 
eleventh century, about patronymics. li 
in Zupiizi's edition, p. 14 :— 

"Siimo vytiilon pil'OHymifx, tfawt Bynil f« 
natmn, jnftcr OrLcivcnm tlieawe, ri- "la 

nicftb tbd nam.-iii. Hi axi'^ *w>i ■ 
forascc: Pm'la, wnd of ihctnt I'm ' 
Cwichifm luitl of thAin CVicAf.' 

Here he exprcsiiy ttlN ti'^ 

son of Penda, and f ' 

are, respectively, th- < 

I.*., men of the tribo uf C«i' 

and be observes that there are i : 

tainly there are hundreds. It is nui a (ur 



9. X. Add. 9. *$t:] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



Ill 



I 



► 



«adi maaea UiAt Ibe ntmo fthoald vnd in -fon 
w 'ham, A aiinpld cxoeption is NcwiDgloo, 
formerly Neweolon, from the A--S. ir( Uidm niwun 
tiiat, i.e., :xi ibu new towa. The -in^r U bore n 
corruption of ilm ^ti■^Ille Eaglish -«n, pub for A.-S. 
•an, Lhe iulUiion of the deBnit^f adjective io ttie 
d»live csMi. la tbe name Newaham we have 
I»rcciMi?j Ibe s&uio A.-S. dali7e, bul difTereotlj 
Ireated, 

Wbnevpr w\i(I that fflj is Swedish for "ftmradow " 
njti-' ■ .1 very modernto acqualntnace with 

the ■^ I'hiilwl. /v't^ 14 tbe DaDinh npcllinij 

of (h-,' wur!; in Swedish it i* written tiny. The 
loeUndic ii enrf, nn<\ it leemi probnble that tbe 
oripioal iienBe was a " narrow apace," a "comer" 
or ''bit** of land, from the Icel. engr, narrow, 
eogoait* with A-S. enge, nnrrow, and the Int. 
an^0iiu ; the Welsh funn ia iny, but netd not 
be fpecially inroked. I should guesa that ing, in 
the MnBo of '* mea«^ow," is ScaodiiUTian, and I 
ftnd meatioD of the Tng$^ or moadow-land, near 
WakvHvtd. We are cooslanlly told that iny, a 
meadow, is " AoRlo-Saxoo." This Blateraeot reals 
oQ "Lye'* Diclionary; he ciliiily aMUtnes it, more 
i»*o, to expUin the Northern Eo^lisb, i.«., the 
[S<auidiaaTia.a use; und add« that it occurs in 
I Bxiiog, Ketterioij:, Readiotf, UodelcntoK (i.e., Qod- 
bclmint;, now Qodaiming), Yellini;, Exnin^, and 
StejrniDjf. But all of these, for aojlhiog that we 
know to the contrary, may be of patrooyniic origin. 
The qaeatioa U, Hiiuply, ia there a siui{Ie passage 
IB aoy A.-S. writiojf where tng, a meadow, occurs ? 
I think not. 

I have only to add that the ctTmolo(;y of place- 
oamea Is uiuaI slippery and diffioulti nnd I hare 
ao fatth in three- quartern of tbe cxplaoations which 
wc w lavlihlyoll'tired. We wantsoniethin^ thorough 
s&d •^l«oialic to guide on, for which we look at 
praaent in Tftin. Walter W. Skeat. 

Cxrnntusn Babiuoton (6** S. ix. 49(>; x. 57).— 
I rpiirt'^ to 1 1V ibal I am in the same ditUoutty as 
8>G ' J unabte to f;^t u glimpse of p. of 

the iiL to the fourth edition (1963) of 

burkes LixHiUd Ocntry. Would readers who 
h«ro thfl ineana of referring to this edition aay 
did Catherine, widow of Thomas (I) Babington, of 
lhe Grecofort bniDcb, marry secoudty, August 2, 
17-10, OoL John Pigott {aol Thomas), and die in 
' 1768? J. PiaooTT. 

NoD!e8 OP MuLTiTCDE (G"» S. IX. -123).— Tf Mr. 
ZwiCCUBW will dip into the second series of L<atYs 
/rocw £i« Uianj </ if<n;y GrevUU (laiii), ho will 
tKat It itt tiiniy piT-ilile for uo author to make 
fcOlUectiTo iiutiii )i<i!li ><u);;t|l»r and plural io (he 
lanM •ectlecicn. R<^p'>in:ig a convenmiou wUh M. 
Thicn, Mr. Greville irriLcs (p. 251}: " Uo was at 
a luu to cDOoeive how thu people was to be 
I gOftrnad, U fAsy adraaoed u tMy were now doLog 




in knowleili,^ and fe«liags of independence." Tbn 
qnfalion whether O^vemment U siujcuUr or plural 
troubled &Ir. Grcvillo a.% it now troubles ^ta* 
EofjccMBE, for on p. 00 we read, in succcisivi 
sentences : " The Government ha* been twi 

be.tteu during the l.utt veek Theiie defeats ara ~ 

very injurioiii to the Gv)vernuient, and prove that 
Ikcy may at any time be left in u minority." 

The IHarn Qontoina many interesting aoeci 
but the laogoage ia whiofa they on related la oftei 
not grommalictti. 1 will give two or three ck- 
am plea : — 

" I am inclined to think that iilnce tbe Emperor'i 
fpoech on the cltMing of tho Gzt<il.>itiiin, timl tfAt'i-'i wm 
certainly a /ic/n', tbe tone of Palnivnton. so irnrliks at 
the MiiUftion Hmuk-, boj iiuinctTUat abntel, ' — P. -09. 

" n« an 1 .Mr, Ntsmytti )i«<) a iliAcuuiin at ilinner on 
tlir tboury Utelf ettrtcil by n writor in iho AlhtMaum 
{(intV »Ao vrruta a IcUrf to KlieiiiKTe on tli« «ubj«et)f 
tbat I^rd Itacoii Kr<-)te Sbaketpsaro'a iilnyi." — V. M'L 

" 1 found Btck«rlon l.jritri*, Franoh, and LwghtOn, 
This fatter ii a iirit;ul*rl7 piflci youtb."— I'. 32S. 

" tc Was In Tain tci try atut proJuoe any impntstiao on 
tba A*#emliljr irhicU wai ia any way uafavoarable to 
OuTfrnuient," — P. 316. 

I agree with Miu EoocaKDE that armyis si njiridiir, 
hut Mr. Bennet Burleigh tn his juat-ia^ued Desert 
li'ar/uTi: being thi CliTonick of tiie Eaitcrn^ 
Souiian Campaign, p. U, writes : " For any prao- 
tio:il purpose an Ejjyptian army is useless, and 
thtir maintcoanco is but a waste of money." 

SwiPTiAKA (6»* S. I. 43).— These pipers do not 
throir any new light upon the wretched old Kil- 
root scandal. It ia quite unnecessary io say onu 
word more on tho subject in defeooe of Swift, 
and nothing that can be said can in any ni.iteri:d 
way alter the facta of tho cmo a« tegurdi Mr. 
Parker. Scott's judgment was right when he 
said, " This scandalous falaehood is only men- 
ttoned here, that it mny never he repeated on any 
future occasion" (Life of Sicifl, 1814 and ISH, 
p. 40). Tbe printing of these papers now fieemt 
to reader a few words desirable ; they shall be as 
brief as poMtble. 

The Rev. Mr. Parker on several occuions stated, 
with some circumatanccH of publicity, and once in 
tho presence of Dr. Percy, Bishop of Dromore, 
that Swift had, when at Kdroot, been guilty uf 
an action which kid him open to a criminal pro- 
eecution, and th.it to avoid this he surrendered 
the living of Kilroot and returned to Eogland. 
There was a new edition of the TatUr published , 
in 1786, And into this tbe calumny against Swift 
«a>) introduced ; it was forthwith reprinted in the 
Ointtnnan'i Magazine for August, 1786 (vol, Iv, 
p. 004), and coouios these words: "This in- 
telligence was cjuiniimtcftttfd and vouched as a ' 
fact well known in the piirish even now, by one o( 
Swift's succoaaors in the living, and is rented oa . 
tbe authority of the present Prebendary of Ktlrool^, 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



C6'i>B.X.ADa.9.^. 



I 
I 



Feb. 6, I7S&.' (See aim vol. Irii. p. 1»4, mid 
Monthly Review, January, 1787, Ixxvi. 24.) 

Such an assertioD, published forty years after 
the d«ftlb of Strife, was not left long uncb&ilenged. 
Dr. Gregory, in the GrtUleman'i Ma^caine for 
Mfty, 1786, p. 464, wrote of it, " I do no( fae«itate 
to pronounce that it b^ars in its front fahkood 
5Dd abturdity." Tbit", of course, led to further in- 
quiry. Mr. Parker did not deny that he had mnde 
tne BtAtemeot, but tbou({bt it rery unfair that hh 
usertton had been printed. He was further 
preised to produce evidence, and then admitted, 
under dat« August SS, 1767, that no evidence 
could be found. After this a note wnt inserted 
in the OentUman'i Mngasine for March, 1790 
(U. 191), coQiTnenoing, "Regard for Truth and 
Justice to the Memory of the Dead," &c. (nearly 
as given nt p. 42^ ante, and in NichoU'a Ithutra- 
tiom, viii. 84). It Is plain that ^Ir, Piirker mnde 
R Ktatcment which he could not Rubstnntinte, and 
wblcb he could hardly himaclfhaTO believed when 
he made it ; and that when called on to sub- 
stantiate it, he admitted that it was wholly with- 
out foundation. Finally Mr. Parker died in a 
mndhouie. Sir Walter Scott, it is true, did not 
refer to the article in the Ointittnan't Magazitis ; 
but he was CTidently aware of it, for he concludes 
biB note {Life of ^ivift, 1814 and 1824, p. 42), 
" The chief propogutor of the calumny fir«t re- 
tracted hia aiiscrtion^, and finally died inftane." 
It would have been well had Mr, Parker expreeeed 
Bome Borrow for having given vent to so foul a 
H(-.;iniltd with no foundation ; but as Iho poor man 
died insane, it needi no fpvat stretch of charity to 
let both him and his foolish tale be forj^otten. 

Edward Sdllt. 

Heraldic (B* S, i. 46).— There would seem to 
hare been some misreading of the blazoD, if the 
oont b supposed to be of British origin. I have 
looked in vain in Papworth'* Ordinary for any 
coat with two chevronels, and have only found 
instances of chevronelly of four and six. Nor do 
I 6nd any instance of chevrons — stipposiog the 
mistake to have arisen between a chevron and a 
cbevroDel— between so many as nine martlets, the 
highest number that I remember being lix. 

NouAD. 

Aw« OR CnArRL (fl** S. x. 49).— The pronoun 
my eCfectually, I think, disposes of the iiuppotition 
thst the testators meant the aisle of the church 
ca^-h frrqneotcd during life. But I apprehend 
that cha^ul wftfl the Anfiliciited form of atpflUt 
('ig. 7) in Du OnnKO nod of chrpiUllum, (lig. 2), 
••regroa funobr», tumulus bonorarins," and w-is 
I Applied to (lie funeral nionnmpnifind to the family 
l^wlt- or hurial-p! tee broeikth such montinient. 
•Imi, too, I am mistHken, such »pacen w*r«.', 
Ing the various rittu iterforined in Roman 
liolic timei in rcmcmnratice, Ac., of tbe 



dead, converted into a sort of rhaptlU ccrdmt*, 
I may add that Du Cange, subnig. 6, shows 
that " Ecclesios parochistes aliquaodo wpHh§ 
dictas fuiaae." Bn. NicnoLsoy. 

A chapel tn pre-Reformation times did not 
always nigoify a building jutting out from a part 
of the church. There were many chnpeli made by 
a portion of an aislo being taken off from the reit 
of the church by a scrrco. I am writing nwny 
from my boolu, but I am sure that much evtdenc« 
could be given both from modern works of arcbi- 
t«ctural description and also from old wills. 

Axoy. 

I WHS in A church some few days ago, nod waa 
looking for a brsps, when the atteodiint Miid. "Oht 
you will find it in that chiipd," pointing to a small 
uible^ Tbe u^e of the word surprised me then, 
VValtsr B. SlatMu 

SJD, Cundon Road, N. 

8ometiniej< the aisle of a church was a cbapel^ 
and nntundly it waa then called so. At Si* 
Wolfrnn's, Grantham, for instance, '* the nontli 
chancel aisle wai added as n Lndy Chanel 
chantry of the VirRin Mary, about VMO " (Slrwt'i 
Notts on Omiif/iofn, p. 141). St. STriTHlir. 

pARoniKS {C"> S. ix. 609; i. 37).— There can 
no doubt that JI/i/3/ofAer (a poem eorleATod to many j 
by such tender memories that to give nt n pirodj 
of it were a custom more honoured in tbi^ lirvncll 
than the obserrnnce) w:ui written by Jane Tiilof^ 
the once popular authoress of the Q. Q. I^itptra 
and Uymntfoy Infant MintU. Her Alemoirtj 
Correipondtnce hsre been edited by ber be 
Isnnc Taylor. The original edition of ffymi 
Infiint Stindr would supply the required oot 
oopy of the poem. Juno Tnylor was boru 1783 
aud died 183-1. 

Edward H. Manstuix, M,A. 

Tlio Library, Clarcmont. Hastings. 

Miss Caaic csn find a copy of LackioKto 
autobto}>ruphy on the reference sbelvet in 
Brilish MtHfuui Rfadiog-Uontu, topabelf of pr 
51039 ; refereno«| S(139, aulobiogmphies, voIil xv 
and xix., 2 volt, 12mo. NcKo. 

Tenii>te. 

Tbe parody In qnestion Ls utilled ^m 
Writtfn iit Covtnt utrr'" ' > '>.\-- 

" Bt, Paul'ri procUifua il , > 

Tlie warjr t-it ■InM- tun.- << 
Time •niitctl '[ircntifMni' i r, 

And \ttitt ihr atraud t. tin ra*.' 

Tt is to b*" found in Tl > 

Dilly in 1777, vol. ii. \ . 

to bo sen f)r« oilinr puroi 

namely " Th* NitTin<>ry," " 

pidlioo 10 a I " ^ 

mittHt«r II i< 

Quardian ^^kiwiUci \aa op<TA rj i\rin.*>j i.n 




NOTES ANT) QUERIES. 



KpiHpli en « ewtaiii V'M.' It mxj nv* tnmUe 

to iitiii tk*l tW tbfM Tcnn qootod by haA- 

iacta« IB kb Jfiwoirt art not to m fmmA ia Ae 

M^ aJ Mum ; U was a Uter MMitiwi, amA ia 

9aiy ia Uie "correcLad lad aacb a»- 

•dteiAtt*," of utiicb lAckinffeMi fiig leJ 

maaj. The pamdj wu ftftcrwKrdt i w nal ad, 

wilfc ft ftw altei&ttoatf in the Aforauif j7<r«2f, 

Md appt Mw d in tlu i^>»( 0/ tha Pm^Ut JmarmUa 

III fcr ITJM, pp. 140-3. Ewax* Soujt. 

I^^H do Mt ksinr whatKer tha loBaviw «ai Mp 
U&. HAMaTo5. I lure a boolc mJIed JTy JtfaOcr. 
V OMBtu.Aatiior of n^r: l(VU Kktam, Midtr 
Ac. Jc&, miblMb«d by : ^u^ 1»7. U 

nrtiahw Jfy Maiiutr aftt Jao as » doil 

Iv cUUrta, aad a 11017 aa^ t^ uva asB*. I 
4o Ml bow if thii ii tha fint mpf^uam, but 
duall thiflk 10 ; howflTCT, if Ma. Baksuos 
v«^ Hko it, r will with plmor* mad kirn a cafiy 

^ atom piaoe. WaLTSft B. Buxn. 

■ m»,Camttmttoai,S, 

m St. Phil, Bhikc.ct Ce* S. z. 00).— I ■■ «U 

■ to bi aU« to pTv lb- dMn i BMi ib w l afcnrt a^ 

■ 4«r IWUtor, Mf. &t ^Mo^tw. Bo wm 
H boraia LMdaaoc ' iiha fSmAmaimA aA 
n Magdaka, OEbcd, m <^ii; m «w X-P.ivflft. 

ima IMl to 1M7, Md Jnr 
» fnmi ISU Lo lasft. 

IfAir Qlaha OBAffT-Oaarc 
lOoartt 




kc^ Oiionl : aad thai be wm RA. ta 183i, aad 
iCi. ia 18S7. Bo «m 0«p9^ Lioaloaa«t ami 
a ■■jeintiu for Uoaaglua, aad alM he SanA 
WonhdaUTCV «hieb pbeaa he lopfcnated i* 
PeirmaMil Wan. 

Btttfco** Lamiai Omtjy i\Sfii\ mp be vac bon 
JiusaiT 18; 161S: vu ib«« l£.P. for Soalh War- 
widkAicr. aad hU baaa HJ*. for co. MoB^ban 
1641 to 1647. Stwx. 





T am tatciutod is all t!bai lalalM «• Mc S. P. 
Shirit^, ttcA oal J n a meoibv cf sy caw oaOoiv 
— Sbtfdaln, Oxford— bat abo a« a nail UM ami 
maduS fritnd. H« mataeaktad al Mm! ilia 
CblaRc, Oxford, Oot If, I8I0» Mil ^mm, 
MarBvdyn Jobs Sbirlfr. of Frrtm[Tii, aa, Wm^ 
•ick. Em.; B.A., May £1, ICmHC^. JMal« 
!fl37. Bo v»< born in Jaoa^, ttU. MP. lor 
Koaachaa, 1841-1847; M^. fcr M^fc riawim af 
Wofvkfciliira, 1853-1065. I bafa * fal tf hia 
«t^ ia bia ova hud ariUa^ 

J. a BboocaH. I» Ji. 
[ Friwy, Biifil|ii«|itn 

f Ibo oourtMy of Ibc Bar. G. 

r of EuioKtoa, I mb aai^bU 
' ]tfo«Lcr with Um ilaU bt tefaat 
Br. Biyij;9 uUi me, fiwia tftitmm 
Uf. fitbirlpy vie bora ta Soalb 
Laadoa, Jan. S3. UlS ; rai^i 
Oi&rd, 16^4 ; viw^ed M.P. ftv Mo^hv, !»<]> 
Md lor Scinlb WarvirHliha. lflDS« 1107. h^ 
>«m. A. MBMamr, M^ 

Kobiv K«««arT. fltnllaj ■ Awa, 

A loaf ai)^ ««fvfnl wbitawj M^oa a» <fe 

• Ouv kaiataMyUMiJ. 

I ira» eascaiea %x Hum mA MmMibO^ 





T' 



•fAoaat 




Mr M* 

aiaiU 
I tta aM4«9r «r Od. 7, laSL] 

Oi n ail FuoLT u Ban^av ((P S. is. SOS). 
— Ai tUi lafmaia ibaia k aa iaatAaaial aoUaa af 
ft» PariciHi^ oaaoHaim vtusa 1 may pethapiba 

■anilrtflbadma. "Tbo BafctSloaa. iirtiiifl 

Maa iM ^ii«, itaada ia a hdlav iMad 
Cte imwa. aad mm a bT^nal to 

^ *g^ rf <id <*- ribad « My 

asHifftdEVlba omto^aai 
hneb aal liwi ir 1 iHiait 400 or maaa 
akL * It »ao l^tiiid tg fc* JM,' ^d 1 
ly maim* aMMto, 
nt aaltenl aa 

Aafl tt. U7Q. OS vbU di? ia Oa 
latoaiyiiii ilHhaBafaaglo»byB» 1 
Immfimg fAiaamaabai; vbovaa toldai 
«r tho iawaMyl*W far a baU^, 



liaSaaatarh 
ama Jtad vba 



' b Ua <w» Cba body of Ok Bod Kli|« 
Am «m a oavaal ia 
, Md Or bad of bar &^ ia 100 1 
_ tolA a»)a toOar ia J^Aa ^ la 

tviibaaa^maa«,I*iik, 

hM^aada^t^d baaAi 
^« 

M. XX 



114 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 




tfi hvKt been aeUled \K tho Altunen SttQ yean 
before oh 8(M) yesm after tbe Conquesl." Quite 
lilcely: but what i* the proof/ Wtio wu their 
foander I und are there not familiea who con trice 
theronelvea as far buck, or further, tban the Wnp- 
shots f 

Wb hiive a notable illustration lo our own neigh- 
bontbood (Mnncliester), nhere the eoine Inndshnye 
been held generation nfter (generation for a perlwl 
at Iejis( of over 80<) yenr?, if not, indeed, from the 
far-oir days of Gurth nnd Wftiiibii, by the Ttiiffords 
of Trafford. The pedigree of this ancient houto 
bct>in8 with a certain Rilph or Budnlpbu^, who 
flourished in the time of Cunute the Dane, and who 
was lord of TrAffoniaLtbal time. ThiR Kiidulphitu im 
mid to have died in the reign of £^twArd the Cou- 
feesor, leariDK n eon who bore the same name. 
Barke aaye, " The ol<l aud knightly finiily of Traf- 
ford, neated at Tratford, in the county palittine of 
Laocusler, from a period antecedent to the Nonnan 
(Aiiiquest, has preserved lime iiumeniorial an un- 
broken mule deacent." Goinj; more into dctalla, 
the old writer reoiurks that "Handolphu* de 
TrafTord, who flourished 'ante-oonqueatuni,' was 
t be father of another Handolphun. of whom mcn- 
ttoD ia made in two deedi lo Kandolphu% filiiis 
Randolphus, by which it appcaratb th.it Kfimiol- 
phas the father was tben dead, and lutd flijurtabed 
in the time of Canute the D.ine, aboat the year 
U»3l>, And perhaps died in tlie time of Edward 
the Oonfeesor, about the year 1050 ; * be bad noe 
lurname, as Iben few of our Siixon uobllitie or 
gentry bad.'" From this Hundolphua sprang tbe 
gnat hotite of Trnflord, which bus exItteAl in this 
county, ni already indicated^ in an unbroken line 
for over 8<.«> years. 

How it came to pasii that the Traffords retained 
poaiearion of the lands held by their ancentor in 
the time of (?^4nule, inittead of bein^ dinplnced by 
one of the followprn of the Norman inratler, ii not 
clear; but cipcdiency and secret belrotbola were 
not unknown in thir ai^justment of differences in 
the elevfinlli any more than in the nineteenth cen- 
tury. Bo that as it mny, however, if Tfie HUcke 
Book* of Traffsftd i^ lo he cre«lited, Itidulphu^ 
the seeond of that name, and Robert, biii son, hoii 
a pardon and protection f/ninted them, about the 
ywir 1080, by ilamo, tbe Xormau buroo of Dun- 
bam Massey, with the lands and l>ody of one 
Wulfernole, a Saxon rebel (Harl. MS. 9(»77, 
P- «>2)- KnitDic. Lkary. 

SS. Clock A1U^ M»ri«b«s(Di-. 

Tbe first thing that nri^es to the mind is, What 
led Lord Palmeroiori to suppose that Piirktw 
belong&l lu tbii ol.J«t family in Knyluid I for 
sunpoftinir it lo dule from K ' a would 

QDly make it ^mq of ihtt i<M< Tbcn 

follows aaotber a>3icrtion, thai m- »> ij ' ■ 
Cbsrt^ey arc the "most ancient fumilj 
1-^,1" Thli is equally gratuitous. An ij.v. i.,..^^ 



assertion nnirersal is akiil to an aaaertion of 
omnificieoce, and when put tn tbe proof becom 
nnalujjous in dilTicully with prorioif a nei^tivi 
That both the families are old it is «nfe to auy, bo' 
that cither is tho oldest in Knf;1and it is Tory 
unsafe to say. It is only oldest till better know- 
ledge comes. Again, I do nut profess much in- 
tim:tcy with noblemen and their code of manner*; 
but for a man of birth to say to PurkUs, '• Give in4^ 
yonr hand, for thoii;^h you are a labourer," JkcJ 
is, to say the leaatr a curious Instance of viO^ritjt 

C. A. Waho. 
naverstock Illlt. 






•; 

J 




TiiK Lord's Prayrr (6«» S. x. 45). — It 
<(iitlicient> in reply to Fathkr Frank, to aay that 
unless the Greek tla-iviyKYfi in M-itU tL 13 
und Luke xi. 4 will boar the'iransLition Iravu nOj 
excellence on the part of a preacher can justify 
decidi'il tuiKfi'presbDtatioQ of tbo express words ol 
tbe Great Tciicber. It wouLI be fun^i^a to tbi 
pnges to enter at any length into a tbeolo^ic 
iir};unient; but to myself and to most of thoM whi 
u*e and tench the Lord's Prayer tbe words * " 
us not into temptation" present nodtflioally 
ever. TemptnlioD is an evil to be sbunne^ 
aieknesB and adversity; yet, like these* it i« not 
an unmixed evil, and it may be a blessed thing to 
be tempted. Tiie good man deprecates the rei 
evils wuicfa, when they come to him in the reRu' 
conrec of God's prorldeuce, he is preiiared 
endure with patience and manfully to ti^tit again 

J. MAflSKt.U 

■\Vith regard to Fathkr Fbawk's qiinrics. I 
not_ think that we can tmnilate fii) v.(TtVf.yK^ 
■^Itti'i ri'v :reipa(Tfinv otherwise than '' lead [or, i 
iu R.V., "ljrinK"]us not inlo temptation." ~ 
verb <i'r</)e'pai will not bear the m^^uincatiou tmi 
and I believe it is translated bring in :>!' ' 
places in which it is used in tbe Nev : 
e.g., Luke v. la, l»; 1 Tim. vi. 7. "G.^. 
day " and "Give ui day by day onr daily bread! 
are both c:)rrect retideriagii, scconlinK tis 
the tn'fftipov ot M.iti. vi. II, or lh« to «a(*' : 
of Luke xi. 3. Tbe former rcnderiUi^ app 
be more suitable for morning and the latter 
eveninc prayer. W. T. Lxsif. 

blftckhc&tb. 

The change of ^(I into leave In ''Lead ns nok 

into temptation " i« simply an arbitrary one. i 
cannot bo defended. The Greek both of 
Matthew's Gj<pel (vi. 13) and n( that of 
(xi. 4) is ^1/ et(rti'cyK>;« ''(^^*^< **< srofi 



.^. 



^l" 



bind." 



1 1 i.i iy;j;.T(«,(jri- Ml ir.(i*i\iUI 

F. tj. BtKKiicve TsftaV. 

Car Jiff. 

Mr. L'Kstraniis, the author of the 
(hi Thamu to Ou 7amur, in recordiog 




\.-JL}tCt- 





NOTES AND QUERIES. 



tt5 



lion viUi> n)>l)i al Sir M. MonteAore's wjoa- 
iii«, Mj«: ** Oar infermuit 
iioBs 9h\ch ihoutd be mule 
yer, which, he uid, maa mostly 
^m Maimcinidcs. One of these wu the tnb- 
ititation of 'A* we oo^ht to fnrRive,' for 'A» 
we forgive'; the other, • Leave h» not in tempta- 
tion,* infltesd o( ' Lowi m not into teinptnllon.' " By 
MoimoDide^ [n a foot-note to the abore potnte 
oat) i5 (loubilejs meikDl the T-ilininl, which wu 
reTi«e<l hj him. JuflH CHOftCillf.L SiKca. 

Ctupftead, Kent. 

Ducuuja or OBairAi.00 (ft"" S. x. 49).— The 
story of the Ducheu of Cerifdilco is toM ia AdtU 
ft Th^odortf aa educatioDal work by Nfa'l:tt»ti de 
Oeolin. E. A. BunxoM. 

Her story wm introduced in Adele «l TlUcdore, 
See Mimoiru d* Madanu dt Or»'--. p ? " ■ ed. Bar- 
rier*. J : iTos. 

i&, Petwortli StTMt, Cbe«tbAiD, M 

RoMJ.»r hkVQVXQM or Coik (C* S. ix. 467) — 
B(Uan«, or hllnnier, U a gorercipn, Poth, of course, 
ie half. Pamfi, or /'nutcha^ is fire in Sanscrit, the 
origin of our PuncA. A'oM is things or sbillingi. 
I make out from Smart nnd Croflon's ViaUd of 
Bn^uh OypTM» that bidf-a-crowo is ^^flifc kuuronn ; 
that two shillings would be dmiik'Ui ; a five- 
DMind note is pamK bManttr /tf, or piinth ingro. 
The flnt of tbew meanfl n fire-pound paper, 

C. A- Ward. 

Barerstocli UiU. 

CoMnoNPLACB BoOK (6* S. I. 4G).— I have 
foand that thd best way of k«epiD}( mantiscript 
notes is to write what it reqtiired on sheets of 
paper all of one size, and th«Q arraof^e them in 
portfolios ID alphnboticol order. The paper can, 
of course, be any size. Eiperioncc has tsHEbt 
me (hat for my own use u h:iirsbeet of nole-pnpcr 
is the best for a mere refercQcc, nnd post quarto 
for long exCrActi. The portfolios which I i)s« are 
■Dude aAer a Dutch piittern ; the original frooj 
whieh mine bare bren copied was given to mo by 
abbmrtaa in ibe XetherlaoiU. I nerer saw any 
hkf them in EnLiland, except my own and tboHu 
laade after the Dntch pattern I have spoken of. 
I Mr. Jackson, bi^oksetltrr, Market Place, Brigg, 
I makea them for in*. Edward PaacocK. 

BoUaeford Manur, Qrigg. 

The Kp-* r'" ' - ^ - -'-- '"I: is that 

Hmied to ! in two 

pMtv 1 ■ .- , ..;,:.>! nt the 

tod .:. work on the //«- 

ij'ie hitd doffiiia ihe 

■r f the leaves of the com* 

|1> •!■• comronittits and vowels 

alp^<»WL. vI'Ub. V. 1, Alt; p. 2, Ae.; 

.^Ai.; the headings of aabjecta to be divided 

lisgty — Aqualios going uadcr Aa.; Earth- 



quake, Es.; Tbomes, To. For some yeMi 
have had oocasion to collect a large nnmber or*^ 
miBcellaaeous newspaper cutting^ ataLittici, and 
folk>lore, and have found the system, with suma 
adaptation, to work very' well. Where, as in ml ' 
own ctse,a Urge amount of matter is aocumuUled 
snUdivisioQ is un easy matter. I keep separatAtI 
coltections for newspaper cutliofT*, slatislic<*, aodf 
literary T.irt:u Thf> ^rst I do not arritni(o in any-i 
narticul.u- order, but [usle in fitiard books and 
index on L'>cke'i plan. Statistit:a I divide into 
cloaaes, keeping each dosa in niphabelical order, 
thus: Electricity, PopalatioD, PublicatioDs, Itirersii., 
Steam, Towns, Water, &c. Etch cUs« I nrrangal 
in strict alphabetical oMer; but in order to aavvj 
binding, Ac, keep them on sepamte slips of papflrf 
arranged between cardboard coven. 1 Had this A) 
practical methatl. The slips are easily founds j 
easily added to, and siifHcienlly kept together itti 
woodL'u trayi>. The third class I subdivide still'l 
more miaotely, and add, as far as possible, to book* 
of reference in my possession. Thus the numerous 
out-of-the-way quotations constantly found in 
'-N. & Q." I add to my interleaved Biirtlctt; 
the foreiao mottoes and proverbs to a similae ' 
copy of Bohn's Polt/yloi; new words to ItogolVj 
Theiauru$. By these means I have all the latesfri 
ndditioDS to band, saving both time and Ubour. 

A. S. K. 

John Locke iDveDted a nucceasful plan, whicti \ 
was BO much approved hts method was copied by, 
n City shop. Tlie forms, reaily prepared, cotild l« 
bou^jht at various prices. I ctnnot ^ive the nama 
of the shop or the pamphlot in which I taw the 
fact recorded lately, owtog (o absence from home. 

C. F. A. 

Mr. J. RftAD-RoK will flod the beat plan by 
the be»t judge of a comrooDpIace book, Mr. (J. A* 
S.ila, ia the " Echoes of the Week " (July, 1882), 
in the IVitstrni^fl London Nnoi, reprinted in 
Living London; being Echoes Utechotd, by Geo. 
Aug. Salii (LoodoD, Remiogfoa ^ Co., 1883), 
pp. S20-26I. The czcelleot pUn is et^iially 
useful for indexing newspaper cuttings whea 
mounted in a "guard-book." Estic. 

BATTRNnptEO (fl** S. I. 46). — I have submitted 
the question to an eminent German lawyer, and 
this is his answer. Tha princes of Battenberg nre 
not entitled to ally Lhcmeelvee on terms of rqualily 
with members of the sovereign houses. But by a 
special family law {Familiengrtctj) promnIgi\ted 
by the sovereign of He««e, ihey hold a recognized 
position in ihtj grand duchy. Princess Victoria 
of Hes-io's unrririge with her cousin Prince lymii 
of B^ttenherg is legitimate in the grand duchy, 
ftofl there he ranks as her eqnat, but nt any other 
German court she would precede him, and he 
wouM uil ut (be bottom of the table. The Counts 
Uohenau of Berlia are the morganatic ions ol , 




NOTES AND QUERIES. 




Prince Albrccbt of PruiMa, neplirwis nf ihe 
Emperor, cousids of the Crown PrinL-e, bul no 
Familunfjesclz lins been U)u<]o in tbrir fuvonr, and 
Ihpy Uke nuik aa counts, nail not ns myitl priooes. 
Their ptiaition is the aaiiie u tbnt of the Buttco- 
berK* at fierlio, but not oa tbat of tbc Butieabergs 
in HeMe, L. A. B. 

The inarriiige of Duke AlexauJer of Hesse with 
the ConotvsH Julie vou Hiiuok? wtm ccrtaiDly a 
uiorgnnattc one, aod coQ^rqticntlj its luue &n not 
entitled to the rank of princes and princesses of 
Hesse. A quarter of a century ngo the tiRue of 
aach mnrriagea would not have been rvt^tnled tut 
tbenhiirtig, nnri so eliftible for an ulliunce with nny 
of the snrerel^Q houses of Gt'rniau y. ((real or small. 
But of late years the old rules bitve underfcone 
conaiJerabla reUxatioD. I luiiy remind C. C B. 
that the Duko of Teck, who liu now tbo rank of 
serene highness, and who has been for eiiflileen 
years the husband of a princrns of Grent Britain, 
ia the otTxpriog of a similar niorg:i»»tic union. No 
doubt this marriafje, and atill more that of another 
British princeca to a subject, bare had no slight 
influence ia breaking down the old cast 'iron 
barrier of partition between (ho little circle of 
thirty-nine or forty princely fumiliee and those 
who were connidered without the pale of then- 
hiiriigkeit. I confeu I hare nerrr been able to 
nndcrstand how a great British (and French) duke 
could coDseni to a morganatic marriage betneon 
hia daughter and one whom C. 0. B. terms "the 
Boion of a junior branch of a Snxnn graod dncby." 
I may mention, however, that tbe Grand Duke nf 
Sajte- Weimar is the undoubted chief of tbo whole 
boufie of Saxony, being the head nf the £rne«itine, 
or elder branch, while the King of Snxony repre- 
sents only the yonnger (or Albertioe} line. Such 
a thing is hardly likely to happen again, 

John Woodwaio. 

Montrose. 

To begin with your querist's kst point: let me 
say tbiil the two nnions which are put up for com- 
parison are esscntlnlly of the eomo naturo and 
fitanding, with only this slijiht difTereoce, tbat 
Ihe wife and descendants of Prince Alexnader of 
Hesse, although at 6rHt styled " counts " and 
"countessen^of Biltenberg, were, after the lapse of 
A few yrhvn, by the then reigning grand duko raised 
to the nink of " princes^ and *' princeaaei." But 
at tbifl point attention ftbouUi bo called to the fnct 
that wft upte the KnsUab word " prince " to tnms- 
late the Oerninn Fiint, which might ho compared 
with the Knglinh "niarfiuiR," as it fcillows in rank 
upon the Beraog (duke). Thn», Prince Bismarck 
in in German Piimt Bismarck, and Princess 
Battrnherg is in Germaor Fiirstin Battenhcrg. 
In the houftfs of formerly sovereign Fu.rtt«n 
(knoim aa itt*(]iattz»d princes) tbe sons and 
daughters oro itjUd FrinwK o&d Priiuifjinnm, 



I 



and morganatic families springing from members 
of actually sovf^reign houses observe the same rule, ^m 
la this way Prince Louis i^ at present styled ill ^| 
Germany Prinz L'ldwig ron Batteoberg, and will ^^ 
some dfiy bo Ciilled Piirnt B.ittenberg, when, on the 
death of his fullier, he will succeed to the family 
properly. As to the origin of tbo name and title 
of Battcnberg, It sufHoea to say that it is taken 
from an old Ueasian country town which belonged 
to tbe gruDfl duchy tilt 14(jti, whoa it was inouc- 
porated in the kingdom of PrilMia. Tbe questioa 
of "inequality " would be more salient if wo bod 
to do with the uniun between a princess of Batleo-> 
berg and a sovereign prince, where tho sooceauoa 
to a throne might be at stake. Ooi Buku. 

BAtleoborg ia a small, once Hesstan now Prao- 
sian, town. Tbe marriage between Prince Alex- 
ander of He^su and the daughter of the Polish 
Miijor von Uauke having bMO morganatic, the 
wife of the prince was raised to thcs title of a 
Prinreits of B.ttlcnherg, which title is likewise 
fthared by tho scions of this fuiiiily (one of whooi 
is the present Prince of Bulgaria), to mark ikeir 
dialinctiou from tbo reigning house of the Hesaioa 
grmod ducby. Though the alliance belweeu a Prin< 
of Bsttenberg and a dnu^hter of the aoverolg! , 
family is not strictly equni, yet the recent mar* 
ringe contracted between Prince Louis of Batteu- 
berg and tbe Oniud Duke's oldest daughter was aa 
well received in Gerouuy ni the marriage between 
the Murquli of Lome and Princess Louise in 
England. H. K. J 

Ox fur J. f 

Albxasdbr Smith (C"* S. %. 27)— See Tlu 
E'trly Ytan of AUxander Stnith, by the Rev. T.^ 
Brisbane (London and Fromp, ltitl9) ; Smilh'fl 
Lart Leava, i^kcfcKei and CrilifUnu, ediiod, with 
memoir, by P.P. Alexander (Bdiutmrgh. 1^6H)j 
Otnt Mng.^ fourth iSeries, vol. iti. pp. 2(51, 2t>d ;1 
Annual Htfjuler, 1B67, p(t. lOi, 195. See alK»| 
the many references given in the third editiuo • 
Poole's Indix to Periodicil LilttiitHre and ifl 
Thomas's Univertal Pronounfing DicHonar^ of 
Biographif and AfylAo/oyy (1671). 

G. F. R. a 

Alexander Sruilb, poet and essayist, waa bom 
at Kilmarnock, in Ayn>bire, on Dec. 31, 1B30, and 
died on .Ian. ft, |y<J7. lie was a i "niwor 

in a mantifnctiirtng houfO at Gl i 1m 

publi*ihed bin Hr«t work, .d lift /j,..;.., n, ibW. 
The nett year b« was appointed secretary to th« 
University of Edinburgh, from which time b« re> 
Htdrd to that city. Ui> died at Wsrdie, nod was 
buried near (be eastern gnl^of Warrialon Ovniflery. 
His moniimenl ja in tbo form nf an lotia or Wert 
Highland cross of Binncy sIoop, "Ic-ivinnd tiy 
James Pruiiiniood, Tt^.A. fj 

shaft ii a bronze modAtlioD hi 
o( WaUam Brodio, HSM Un U/e was wHV 




NOTES AND QUERIES. 



117 



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in 1B68 bj P. P. Alexander io a tnenioir prefixed 
to the pod's La*t Ltavcf, Miu Mtlford, in oqo 
of her lelten, writes : — "Alfred Teuo^soa b.\J9 
that AJfiXADder Smith's poems show fnncy, but. rioc 
tmsgioatioD ; and on my repeiitiof^ this to Mrs. 
BrowDiDgf abo said it wu exactly her impression. " 
" Hit proM Msays," aayt Slcdman, " were ohiirm- 
log, aod his City Poema, marked by sins of omis- 
aioQ only, mny ho rated as ncc-itively good. 
OlatgoK aad Thf 2Cight hrfore the iredliny reiilly 
an cxcelleot" (Davenport AdJLmti'a Vict, of En<j. 
Lit), Besides bis poems and euays, be contri- 
buted to mogaeiaes, rovitws, and eacyclopcedlas. 

Alpha. 

The best nccoant of Alexander Smith is a bio- 
gnphtcol introduction to a posthtimoiin Toliinie 
of his essays, eotilled LoaI Leaves (E!linbiir|.'h, 
Oltphaol). Thtrf roemoir is written by Mr. P. P. 
Alexander, »n intimate friend of Smith, and is 
marked by chariicteristic itiftigbt, delicacy of feel- 
iDff, aod gmce of style. Tboae familiar with one 
of the most etrilcing phiiosophicvl p;trodies ever 
written, Mr. Alexwoder's " Diicourse of Suiifrteig," 
ID his powerful aod enterLaiuing volume Milt ami 
CariyU, will readily infer that an autboritativa 
biographical sketch from the eaine hund will bo of 
unusual interoat aod ioiportance. 

TaouAs Bathx. 
Halcnsbursli, X.B. 

There U a b<-xik cilled 
AUrander 5;uifA, but I 
present the aiuhor'a name 
would probably bo able to obtain it from Mr. Janiea 
Tliin or Mr. John Grant, booksellers, of Edioburgh. 

B. DoBEIiL. 

Queen's Crescent, IlnTeritook llill. 

Permit me to supplement your editorial note by 
adding a reference to an iatcresting birrgrnpbical 
and literary sketch with portrait of Mr. Smith 
which will bo found in Good \i'ord$, March, 1867. 
lu 18C9 waa publisbed The Early Yeiirs of AUx- 
andtr Smith (Lnminn, 12n\o.), by llie Rer. T. 
Brisbane, and thero is aUo, I nm informed, a 
memoir by his friend Mr. Patrick Proctor Alex- 
aoder, published nomo time about 1870, but this 
work I hare not been able to trace. Mr. Smith 
was born io Kilmarnock, Deo. 31, 1829, and died 
in Edinbiirsb, Jiin. t>, 1867. He was buried in 
Warriston Cemetery, J, MAHOtL. 

If « wcost Ic • upon-Ty oe. 

The best memoir of the author of A Lift Drama 
H that by Patrick Proctor Alexander, M.A., 
prefixed to Last Lrnv^i (Edinburgh, Nimnio, 
186B). Thf Ktitly Y€ari of Aho^nd^r .Smith, by 
Rer. T. Brisbane fLondon, Hodder & Sloiiuhlon, 
1S69), should aUo bo referred to. If Ma, Wbite- 
BURsr 6nds a difficulty in obtaining either, he is 
welcome to the loao of my oopies. 

B. A. Lawuxcb. 



TAs f^arly Yeart of 
cannot remember at 
Mil. WiiiTBuaRsr 



Lu8T NoVBL OF GOLDSUITH (6* 8. X. 29). — 

Miu PuCLT.sar will find the latest summary of 
facts known with regard to the History of PrancU 
tVilU, the novel attributed to Goldsmith, in a 
noto appenrlcd to ibo edition of the Kicar of 
Wakffiehl juat pubtiabed io Bohn's SUndard 
Library (" Goldauiith's Works," vol. i. p. 238). 
Those are, brietly: Au edition of Francit WitU 
was publiahcd (in French) at Rotterdam in 1773 
(the year before Goldsmith died) ; uu edition ia 
Kngltsh was published at UpsaU in 1799. Southoy 
came ncroAs the first, or n corresponding edition, 
and in 1812 pronounced it **tt fmud"; Mr. Bobert 
Browning read the second, or some reprint of it, 
and condemned it similarly (oids bis letter in 
Korster's Life of Goldsmith, 18S2). Mit. 
PoDLTSBr's Berlin edition of 17Wi, however, seems 
to constitute a new fact, or at least it ia new to me. 

J. W. M. G. 

I had, and perhaps hirre still, although I cannot 
now Bod it, a copy of the book in'jiiired about by 
Mb. PotJLT.SRy. My c^ipy, however, although lu 
modt respects it reserobltid Mb. Puultxbit'b, was 
not attributed to Goldsmith, but to iom« other 
author whoite name I liare forgotten. I snspeot 
thiit the attribution of the work lo Guldsmitb W{\s 
merely a publidher*a device to help off an uDsale- 
able book. B, Dohkll, 

Queen's Crescent, Iliivcrstock Hill. 

It may pretty safely be asserted tlmt ilie writer 
of tbid little book was not Oliver Qoldsmith. It 
was published by Vernor & Chater In 1772, under 
the title of The Triumtihs of BcncvoUnce ; or^th* 
IfistoTy of Frtxncii irilh, 2 vols., 12mo. The 
Monthly Itcvictv said of it (Ixri. 457), " Somo 
knowledge of life, with a considerij^le portion of 
humour, tcndernes.s and sentiment." Tho Critical 
Htvitio (xxxiii. 255} obserrcs, " Wo cannot say 
th:it his history ia a matterly performance, but 
as wo applaud the desigu we will uot ooademo tho 
execution of it"; and the London Atagniiu (xlL 
^ti3) has, "This novelist affects to imitato his 
betters in this species of writing, but he is oon* 
tinnally losing sight of his object. Hia narrativo 
is tedious, and his incidents ditsgust by their uni- 
formity," Goldsuiith died on April 4, 177-1, and 
there was very soon afterwards brought out in 
Franco ** fiuloire d« Fran^ait WHIb^ ou U 
Triomph* de U Bi«»faiiance. Par TAuleur du 
MiniiWidt Wakefield. Tnidactbo de I'Anttlais." 
This is mentioupil by Southey in Omnvnut, aa 
"a fraud upon Goldsmith's reputation" (Prior's 
Life of OoldJitnithy ii. 418). Tho Berlin edition 
of liHG is probably a similar publication, and 
neither scarce nor of much Tulue. 

Edward Sollt, 

" Uidoire de Fmvfoii Wilti, on le TriompUe 
de la Hifnfaifance. Par I'Aulenr dn Mini$tra d< 
W^akeJUld. Traduction de TAnglois," was published 



IIH 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[9^ B. X. Aoa. 0. '31. 



in 1773 1>y D. J. Chnnpiion nt Amaterdam, and 
by H. BviDUD nnd Beiinet Sc HiOce nt Hotter* 
dAtn. It umy be tliou^ht worth notiof; tlmt tbe 
trsDAlation intrt Enj^liiKb of lliis book wbich waa 

5ubti«hed ftt rpsftU in 1799 is eDtitl«<l "The 
'riiimpk of Benivoltm*f. : w, tht liutory of 
VSriinci'S WiV.s, in two voluracK," and thit all re- 
rferoDce to the " author of tbe Vuxxr of \\'ok*juW* 
u omitted on the tille-pa^e. 0. F. R. B. 

Larok Fosbil Etm (0** 8. x. 87).— Dr. Back- 
land obKrres: — 

"Tbe enormoui m^tnitudo of Llie eye of the Iclitliro 

■wrui ((•!• xii. fiR. 1, 3) IB amnni; the mrMt rem&rlcftble 

pccuIiftrilicA in llie Blnicttire of thii krtimftl. rrnm tUe 

[ qiiiiTitit^ of light Kilmitlcd tn contoigtiiMics of Ut \ito- 

I wt;i'>ui lizj it Tautt bKVv |iuAAe9.«eil T>-rjr ^roxt powera of 

Tiaiun : wo h«va alio eviJeoce ttiU it bad both micro- 

, icoplc MitJ te)o*coplc pr'>pertiof It wsa an nptickl 

In^tnimont of rtricd itnd proiiigioui power, enaliling the 
Iclitliyowiiiru* t(.cic»rry it« prey at ^rcit nr little diitnncei. 
in tb« obttiurily of night ititd in tbe deptlit of tbe mq."— 

Bridgemttr Trtatiu, roL i. pp. 37(^1, LonJ., 18^. 

EV. MAnSHALL. 

ALtxASDKR M. Caul (6* S. x, 20). — Alex. 
M*C»«1 wiw bom of IVotestftnt pnrfots in Dublin 
on Maj 16, 1739. After an education nt a prinite 
school he entered Trinity College, Dublin, Oct. 3, 
18U, und there took tbe detjree of B.A. in lftl9. 
About Ibis lime he became tutor to Willitm, third 
Karl of lEosse, aflerwttrdB the distingaJHhed iwtro- 
nonif r. AbundoDto^; nil chnnce of acndeniical dis- 
tinction, he n«nt out to PoUnd in lgi>l as a mis- 
tion&ry to (ho Jewn, and commenced Btudvin^ the 
Hebrev and Ocrmun languages. Upon bis return 
to RogUod be wav ordained deacoo at Christmafl, 
1822. Id the following year be received nrieiic's 
order*, and baring married went bock la Puland 
with his wife. He continued to act as head of 
the Jewish Mission at Warsaw until the Butaoin 
of 1830, His health soon afterwards failed h!in, 
and be Goally settled in London in 1832. He 
Btill continued to show his grout interest in Jews, 
.tad look an active part in traneUtiDK the Prayer 
[Sook into Hebrew. He idno preached at the 
Bpiscopil Jews' Chapel at Palestine Pl;ioe. In 
1837 he received the dGjfree of D D. from hia old 
Tiniverflity, and in 1810 was appointed First Prin- 
C'ihI of tbe Hebrew College for the Traininii of 
the TiIiJ-i.ifi-ii-M.i! of the London Sopioly fur Pro- 
niolii nity amonji the Jcw". In 1841 

he w ! : iho bisli.ittr!,-' of Jerusalem, which 

he declined. Ifi', bov ited tbe Professor. 

Khipof Hebrew and U' ' ,'tcnilurcat KioR'a 

College, vacated by tl»e accojjtance by the Rer. 
Michael Solomon Alexander of the post which he 
had refused. In IM3 bo became rector of St. 
James'o. Oukc'i PlAe*,a»id in I81S n j.r»b*nd(»ry of 
St, Paul's. In [1, ' ': mointed 

first PrnfeMor je, nnd 

upon Mautice's ii'-^i^fjaLieii ui ilo'.m-it oI iicol»- 



1 



stastioat History ho was called upon to supply tbe 
vacancy in addition to his other work. Tltongh 
much pressed to accept A colonial bishopric, upon 
the formation of tbe sees of Melbourne, Adelaide, 
Newcastl<>, and CfLpetown in 1847, be ones more 
declined episcopil honours. In 1850 be was op- 
puinteil rector of tbe united parishes of St. Magnus 
the Murtyr, St, M»rg!iret, New Fish Street, aoil 
St. Micli:iel, Crooked Lane. Upon the revival of 
ConvDC-'ition he wiu unanimouoly eleoied Proctor 
for the Clergy of tbe Dioccae of London. He died 
on Nov. 13, 1863, la the aiity-fit'th yeor of hl« 
nse, and was buried at Jlfnrd Oernctery on ih« 
SOtb of the same montlu .See ^1 Mtmoriat Siutdk 
of Ute JUv. AlfxntuUr M*Caul, D.l)., by hi* ^ 
eldest son, the Ucv. Joseph B. M'Caiil (1863). ■ 
Uta wriiint;s were very numerous, and ^a toler- 
ably complete list" of them will bo foand ou 
pp.' 28, 28 of the Mimonal Siutch. 

G. F. K. a 

Alexander McOaul inm the great Hebrew 
scholar Dr. MoCuuI, formerly missionary to the 
Jews in Pobiod, afterwards Professor of Hebrew 
ut King's Cjllege, nnd Rector of St. Mognns, 
London Bridge. The pamphlet in question, 
JinitoJU far Btluving, &c., was dedicated to the 
(^ueen. It w:ui published in 1R40 by B. Wer- 
tbeim, 14, Paternoster Row—prabably tbe aaiSd 
Hrm known now as Wertbeim & Macintosh. 

CnARLOTTI O. BOOIH. 
8t. BaTiour'i. 

Alexander McCaut, bora in Dublin &bout the 
begioniogofthe century, was Bectorof St. Magoiu 
and Profesaorof Hebrew in Kiog> College, London. 
In early life be went to Warsaw as missionary In 
tbe Jews of Poland. He was singled out to be j 
tbe first Bishop of Jerusalem, but declined the 
appointment, afi he thought it more fitting ihst] 
the newly founded see should be filled by a Jew. ! 
Tbe short title of one of bis books as i^iven byj 
your correspoodeDt is rather ambiguous, i?ciu<mtl 
fur Belifving would seem to denote some workj 
in defence of Biblical truth ; and one of Dr.l 
McCaul's works which bad n great pupuluriiy waN*| 

An Examination of DUbop Colonso's Difficulties witb] 
retard to tbe I'ontsteajti. ttnd some Rtajotu/itr biiitv 
iny in its Autlionti^iit/ riuI £>ivin* UHgtn. 

Bitt prrbups s'>motbini; ditrrr«*nt ts Intended.. 
And herein lies the curious unibit;iiity. The re« 

ference mny l-i^ ''» " nunmlili i t'rkr!(li..i : — ■ 

Utaioni /"t 'inij 

DirnUjst ttie .r . It'- 



t 



Brompten, 

tiAAtBAU>t»SlC*K8PIUftK (ft» S. X. i3).— Uc 

Fcrg^oOf ia bii tiatnanua as a &imm (ISSST 











r, ICI7, ^ 3&, v« Wi3, 

or kvM haan^ vfckk « » watah.* Is MooniftSOB 
villi Uw Ik* MhM»Wlt*Mr Ull^mttdai lU 
cad af tte Can liKB * tMft bdb* SM ilnck. 

A **Mk« bdb* afaa laaoK iW p»*dtr hdb 
for « GMSaa, tat that br tW mall paee aT 
«fd»a»e» t«nai a tabr. TW nlikn Md aim 
tt Un wapoo vanei iligUf at ilifmat 4jI«i, 
batia Md Wh« UM iLa liiwiiim tl ill sbM 
ma|k.aaiiit««i|MOink Kcikkr did Ibc 
htQe ** «MTf7 Iha pavdw to IJm ImU fod oT a 
rmfi" fcr tbe ladle's vidlb was 6i iadiM^ and 
21 COMH Aot, IkamCon^ catar an apmurv lUglbitj 
over 31 iadna wide Bil NicaouoM. 

Cnw AftTBTrm TS*^ S. x. 0) £7% — Cati^ara ii men 
finnUiir a« ezemlibor, rioa is lilcr&Ujr a **Udo*,'* 
KoA frfittm it ratn^j ** whiu-taotd." *'T«girydd, 
yr Wo a daM Prytiaen ": "(Anhar took on h» 
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clu eua it aa aMalfial faih«r ««a tn^n jr»* ; oti 

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Sir. awokbaiKh rmriota wA Unctb. nr. 

bnUnonjr M Uia mUub aoil i«t{i«ct wiui 

rint mMUr of B(uin»auel wm rt^mUd hj bm iiva< 

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dndth MtntTviTtry cf Oie cultetc* wna c<-lckr«t*tl, wAaftJ 
ouuiof a TBI7 tllffercBl tiimii. tia W4t, 1^- fu-t, a uiiiv^f** 
■Uv ilf>n ()f tlie oltl (Ypo wl)ic)i (4 ii'Hi i i •* 

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twtiitwi. U« la, bowoTrr, U'«t roniru.' 
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lull wtioUr. 

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the Ute r i „., 

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Muter of Uallltil CuUd|;«, ()xr>'nl (HlvtotM-^it* 1 

Ht tlio preiDRiure il«AtU of M> ' "' 
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iMFMr h«i Imii ■uil'lriily cw 
wcKk linnhli, ho liml alw.tr* (>i l-i >f,:. 

Cawcra.HtHl iiroljnll; (lie pli^akitl l-l . 
J tho dcliTvi'jf i>f hla iiii|iuWr t«iuiu4.. ... •.... \,.i,\,,,iu, 
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IW Bliortrning or his liri^. TIioukIi plirticslljr unAttvd 
for flctilrouin^ Inr^^.- au>)icncoa. lie took n jrnftt ilrliiflit 
In lecturini; to tlic Ibliourii'K tUsion, with wlioiii he had 
ft ■troiigiympnth;. It iru hy apeaktn;;, ntllier tlmn hjr 
prUiii|£, tliftl lie nntunlly oxx»'"'>''»''*i hinnclr; nml m 
flof^iit a ipenkor wu he that hu ucUhcr vtitif hU 

Sjeerhei l»eforrli«nd nor utnl h\i nnte* during tlifir 
nliTery. Ic would, Ibercfwro, hardly bo fair to cri- 
ticiu too oloielr tli9 ltctiir«#, ad<IrcwM, und ollirr 
Imgioentary wriUiiK'ii wliicli are iocluded in tbia boob, 
■I nnne t>( lUtta wot left by the author In a f>>rm 
intended for piibliciition. Thvre ii, however, iiiure than 
enougli In thcM unflnlihed writings of his to show thnt 
ha wu ft deep and origlnHl thinker. Tho iiote* uf the lec- 
tarei delivered by hitn In the llftU of Tlal)i»l College upon 
*' The InduBtria) Rerolution " An of much int«re«t, and 
make ua regret tho moro Uiat he wfti not snared to writo 
ii(>on (hnt luljeot his intended book, far which he 
had dnrinK the lut year or two of tiiB life been colleot- 
inir the inateiiAls. Dr. Jowett's prefatory memoir is 
written in a iytnpathrlic yet diicriminatiiig tone, and 
il a model of n hat memotr writing ihould bo. The onljr 
ffttUt Ibat wtt c«n fiitd with it li timt it ii too abort. 

T\i OUtfjiicncf. A Comedy llall'-t in tbp Nahtiatl Spanish 
DiKlectof NicaracuB. Kditt-^l by I'aniol <}. llrinton, 
AM..BL.D. (Philadelphia, Brioton; Loudon, Triibner 
JtCc.) 
Or the Tolumei of "Drinton't Libranr of Aboriolnftl 
AroerwRO T>itenitDre"that hare been to far puMlihcdthii 
BOMtatMtiie iiiithcit intercflt. Tite Bail* d'l Oufp''itnet 
Il mid to be the only upeciracn of uny Irnnth of Mnuic 
repreeetitntiofi which'hiu been prewrred by the dewend- 
ftnt* of tbe MKni:aeii. A hatte. it mny be >ai'l. it a vT»ccie« 
ofdretnatiu repretentation, pcrfomied by m«*ked acton 
and ao<:o(iipititl«d by aonixa and tlancn. Such p<rfonn> 
ftncea have been common nt certain oeuona among the 
DftttTM of NabaatI and Mangue litirnpe. They are fully 
dMOrib«d by OyicJo, Jlistoruj (founU dt leu Initiax. 
Tli« tirraent cpeciinen i^ written in a curioun dialect, in 
which, howt^rer, the Spanieh predoiiiinAtei over the 
natLre languace. It ia curiouily naire and very far from 
decent, and describra the advcnlurea of an old msn fttid 
bis two aona with the governor, tho chief alf{iueil. and 
other authoriliei. It it inipoHiblc to atteoipt a dcKrIp- 
tion of ibiii curiooa prodnctlnn, which, while full of 
hitrreat to the pbilolngiit, is not vilbout value to the 
itudent of the drama. The book La illoitrated with 
ciirioQi iiUtea. Tba imhltcaliua of worka of thti claai, 
undtrtaken by I>r. BrUil«n, la a matter for conicra- 
tuIatioD. 

Inttrnational IT4aU\ SxkibiUon,—Offi<ial Banil^li. 

(Clowea k Sons.) 
Tflt* verioa leemi now lo ho complete, and coinprltea 
Inftciiuv* Dxt**tia nnd tkttr I'mtntio^. by Shirley P. 
Murphy; Alrnholic Drinkt. hjJ. h. Thudifuni. MI*,; 
Btnlthy t'u'itilmre anii Dfromtinn, by H. W. Edia, 
F.8.A.; fhatlUy and r*ftA<-(i^Ay U.^v*rf, by W. Karice, 
C.B.. PLS.; />•>'. hv A, W! Uvth, Uf*iih in ihuf 
Wfff/Mo^.byJ It tni^.n,.,,. /.„., I,, i: w fi.i^in, 

f.S.A- ; ,'^er^lJt ' ■'«, 

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On tbe inth Inrt. the Bmx Stanftnrd «IU Kd<i to I 

iiitoretting matter an antiqiinrian culamn. 

Wk learn that Dr. Maeaulay, the editor of (be Ltiiur* 
Uavr, haa in tho pre>« a new life of [>r, Johns'in. It 
will be tlie third of the '" Centenary Scric," pntlinhed 
by Mr. T. Kiaher L'nwin, and will be entitled l>f^ JvKm- 
toH : kit Li/«, Worli, tn<d TatU TaUt. 



fioiitri to Corrr^poiiOniU. 

fr< mvit call tp«dal alttulionlo ikt foUomnff notttti: 
On all eommunicfttioai ranat be written the nftme and 
addroiB of tbe lender, not neceaaarlly for pubUoktion, bat 
a< a guarantee of good faith. 

Wi cannot nndertako to aniwer qnariea prif»(«Iy. 
To Mcare inaertlon of communication! correrpondenta 
raait obMrvc the following rule. Let each nolo, auery, 
or replj t>e written on a avpsmle alip of paper, with Ibo 
signature of the writer and nich addrean at hi wlaha* lo 
appear. Corretpnndrnta who rrpeat gueriva are reqiM^ld 
to bead the aecoiid communication " Duplieala,** 

IIami'Tom CocftT.—l. " Twai whiiprred in beaven," 
&c.~~Tliete tinea, erroneously attributed tn Lord Byron, 
were written at Iircpdenc, in tho year JSl'*. I-v Miw 
Catharine Famhawe. The ori)(inal MB, a- . i ■, 

DeepHene album. Hee " N. k Q.," 1" H. v. . 
Tbe firtt work in which we have aeon t^ieta m r> "•>■ >^ a 
collection of miwellany pn^m4 by Juanna Uaiili(<, ptih- 
lisbcd poniewbero near l&2i>, '2. ''They couldn't fflt 
down," kc. — The French Btury from which this ii takro 
is'ildt^r thsn Injiuldabr. It li luld v&rioiiaty of Ht. Cecilia 
and (he cberuba whom ber music attracted, and of Lot 
and hl« cttleatial viiitori. Tb« £nj[tlih Udcs wa hare not 
Men. 

n.Oiiisoii, Bucnoi Ayrea ('■ DiafraM. -ha"" 

— We arc obllgrd by your vxplaiiKii'ii -weTt 

have been anticipated. 8oe 0'^ ti. Ix. I .■ v., .^/^iroLbfl 
commanioationi will appear. 

BoiLEjin.— (VaauurtT id given In tbe ImjptfiAl DUiio»*\ 
ory (Aunandale'a rdi(iun) lu "a cloM*Rni<ned harAj 
aandftono or grit found under certain coal beda in lli>| 
tower coal moaiurca of Iferbyabin, Yorkahire^ 
abire, &e." 

CBi.nt IT Ali-ax r^'Bouffb Roiuea ") — Tli* nan 
tbe bou^h to Indicate the kkIo of beer, Itc , ii a avrrlf 
of the old practice tS indicntiiig taveroa by the emplo 
meat of tb« buih. Bee 1" ::J. v. 371. 

J. O. ('MS. Vertea by Cowlpy '•).— Th* two 
you mention are included in the edltliin of Cowle| 
works puhliahed in 2 volt. 8vo., 171 o, with a third volun 
addod. The Grit, "Hall, lje>irnin|*'a Panthroii." k9 
appear* vol. 11, p. C18, and tbe aec^id p. 667. Tho pagi^ 
notion In tbla edition Ii contlnuooa through tho two 
Toluuieft. 

JoFErti LicosKK (" Palre fumer un Cfflpftad").—Wo 
Cannot give jmhltcity to this craid experirapnl, 

8t 9wiTtirn 0' Jingo ").--The derivation of tbli wnrd 
(rum a Uui<}uf name for the Deily ia auppUed by Mr. 
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KOTBB:— SUIU of ttie KnIghU •^f tho 'lolilaa riMOt, 121— 
CtBBts of WlUUm III., 1S3— Cbrjioro-aiapilar fetUpb 
— H«vv4-8oulh«)' nad Fruklng. I?l — Ke/ofClinreh unr1««I 
wflh Clork— !^[)«lk— Anthoi of " Tho C-«inp of VvrogB"— 
Wkll**! "B«lbortie '— A. Curiotltr la Naumj— Bl( boHlcU 
ClMBMn— "No CO" — Scollaiid, 125-- F^lrUz — Pu*o<>ck 
yiA-lor«— A F«nlt«t — A Now TnUIs— II Utorickl KlSi. 
OomnlHloD. 12«. 

QOERlEa:— Topoxnphu InfaniKlli-lUitorlcftl Treoa. 177— 
FMIfmUun o( (.butch— UufO do VIdoq— ilcnrr CUy— 
XtUhop KMse-tJuouttoni tn I'Atltamert-i^MU of tti« 
Kcfladei— Btcrne'B Kiln-Fro;;^ fa Irsluid-Sfnca PBiiill]r, 
I3»— Dl N. da Tftvknt— W. Wud— D«tM at Newm|k«r 
CbnsionlCAtloni— "The I.ii»t :^apper"— OMm'-Xon— Rook- 
Blliltl — K«v. 3. Mftlber— " FiillAmentCipUln"— An Eutem 
lUai't VUw af UukeU, 1^— TdonjiObUu. VAO. 

Rirue:— air Bob«rt Booth. l80-6«rjunu* RIntc*. 133— 
PooAcU— Prince*! Poc*faoBtu — Thuau l>ore-liomui7— 
FllilunUnKi Cr«at, 133— Oe— "SaI et ulira" — Solomon 
PaBsy— D«l«or Phmo— "l>oo Jnui." 1S4 — " A"m* Wm 
Or— Bndbrldip) — Smith*! " Dtaionur ' — Naw Veihi — 
Pcnteaalle— Tb« World crmUd Hkreh 15. 13£-"Boi"— 
1%a Purtlcto " Dc," IDQ-TraniUtloni of JoMpbaa— Haw- 
•Btarrlj— .Vrma of French K lnir»— PartftT. Saint— Mitres — 
BkbMi — "With bow btUo tvtjHlom." 137— Bcbwu-ffDliKcb— 
Bonioa of Slory-PreinlcrirMl - A UunilrM Yeira tmlwoen 
MurtMM— LuDb KDd Hint Sanco— Stickleback! — Kwl 
ntfwIliUiii's Pottnlt— BaUail Wanted— Kerotmade>, ISS- 
Itnnd Anow— Uodar-moder — Deralila' CoUiigo— Tha Ship 

SOTES ON BOOKS: — Cwi'i " HontaaHro "* — Bcckori 
" Hotldttr B&BDta " — Chunben^i " Illiut»tioai of tbs 
AitthCf ol yfrnrtxivf," fto. 

VoUea* lo Oopwpoajmta, Ac 



flatrtf. 

[THE .^Tiiw OF TUB KNIGUTS OP THK 
0. .RCCE IN THE CORO OP THE 

CM . Ji OF UARCKLONA. 

(Confi'iiiwi /ran p. 83.) 

9. Fre<l«Tu:, CoiiDt Palatine of the Rhine, Dukd 
of B*rAri*, Atid Elector (No. 127). Quarterly, 1 
ADtl 4, the FdlatiDftto, So., & Hon ramp, crowned or, 
>nn»d gu.; 2 uid 3, B&varia, Pusilly beady org. 
ukd ftL Orer ftU iho Elcctont^, Gatofl, on orb 
Of:. OfMi, oat of ft dtical coronet the lion of the 
PalAtiiftte between two boras of BArarim This 
prince wu born in 1482, and elected Knight of 
tb« Order in 1616. He married Dorothea, dhnghter 
of Christum I f., King of Denmark, by Isabella of 
Aaalria, and died in 155G. 

10. Oay de la Baame, Comte de Mootreail 
CKo. 12!)). Or., a bend danoettd az. Oreet, ont 
of a docal coronet a iwan iiaant or, beaked ^n. 
Fifth eon of Pierre de La Banme by A.lix de 
Larisax, he was Cberalier d'Honoeur to Mur(i:aret 
of AuBtrin, ifiiii^htt«r of the Euiperor M&xiiiiilian 
and widow of Philibert, Dnko of Savoy. lie was 
•beted a Knigfat of the Order in 1516, which year 

giro* as the date ui hia death (see Ta 
diM Armoiri'U rUt i'hcvfiii<rt <U hi Ti^Uon 

SU9); but thlt CB& hardly be correct, since 
Ufl 4rme bUzoned here aC the ohftpter of 
1519. 




11. Lanrent de Gorrerod, Comfce de Font da 
V*nr, &c fXo. 131). At, a chevron or. Crest, 
a noieorn's bead &n?-> Ai^nied ftnd crined or. Son 
of Jean de Gorrevod by Jeanne de Ch4teau*'| 
Renard. He was broufjht Dp in Spain, wu Grand 
Ecnyer of the Duke of Savoy, and, liko the pre- 
cedent, Cherftlier of Honour to his wife, the Aicb- 
ducheas Hurgaret He was Governor of Brentf 
in lAlO, and Chvnberlaia to Oharles V., who kat»1 
him the lifo rent of the Sicilian duchy of NolA j 
and of the Bisoayan mines. He was elected 
Knight of the Order in 1516, and died in 1027. 

12. Jacques de Garre, Beigncarde Ffesin, &fl. 
{No. 133). Or, n lion ramp, go., crowned and 
armed az., within a bordure eobanotde sa. Creat, 
— it is not very ea^ to say what this crest is. As 
drawn in Maurice it appears to be two wings erm, 
iasuing from a cap argent. ChifHet saya, ** Heanmft 
convert d'un bonnet pUtt de gnenles renversd paf ' 
dcrri^re d'hermines. Timbre: deux monfles do 
Roeuk-a dedans, d'hermines en dehors" (/mtjnui 
Getililitia Equiium Ordinit VclUrii Aurci, 
AntwerpifD, 1633). RioUtap blauins it, "Uni 
chapeau de gu. retr. d'berm. soatenant denx gants^ 
renv. celoi ^ deitre de gu, celui i sin. d'berm." 
Son of Grodefroy de Gavro by Marie de GUisteUes, 
be was Chamberlain to Oharles V., Governor and i 
Oaptain-General of the county of Hainault. Hv < 
wu elected a KniKht of the Order in I51fi, and 
died in 1637. He is buried in the church at 
Mons, nnder a slab with the inscription: "Cyglst 
Messire Jncques do Gavre, Seignenr de FresLa 
d'Ollegnies, d'Vgies, Mnuain^ &c. Ko eon vivant 
Grand Bailli d'Haynant, Cneualicr du Toisoa 
d'Or, Chambelau de TEmperenr Charles quint da 
bonne memoirs, leqncl trespasaa le V d'Aoait, 
1537- Priez Dieit pour son Amo." 

13. Antoino de Lilain, Comte de Hoogstraten* 
&o. (No. 135). Ga., ten lozenges conjoloed 
(3, 3, 3, 1) arg., on the first a lion ramp, of tha 
6eld. At Barcelona the lozenges seem to bo tinc- 
tured or (probably erg. tarnished), and each bears 
a lion ramp, seemingly aa,, which b certainly a 
mistake. Crest, out of a coronet an eagle's head 
or beaked arg. between two wings of the second 
(these wings, like others of the series, are what is 
known as " nn vol k Tantique,*' each demi-Tol 
generally consisting of only nine large feathera ia 
rowA of three each). Second son of Josse da 
Lalain, Seigneur de Montiguy, Sio., fay Bonne da 
la Viouville, he was brother of Charles, first CTount 
of Lolain, Kniifbt of the Order (Ko. 117) (rule 
infra, stall No. & on the Cantoris aide). He 
was himself Chamberlain to the Archdnko PbiUp, 
whom be aooompanied into Spain, He filled the 
offices later of Oounsellor and Chamberlain of the 
Emperor, and was Governor of Holland. He was 
elected a Knight of the Order in 1516, and in the 
same year was publicly created Connt of HtM^- 
stpftten, roceiTiDg iuvwUViw olVa^X i\^\X.T \t».NS» 



122 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[6<i>S.Z.Aca.l6,'8l. 



Oharch of St. Gudole, at BrnsseU, from the hands 
of the Archduke I'erdioand. He muned iMbelln 
de Culemboarf;, aurl died in IJIU, aod was baried 
in the church be bad buUt at HoogstratcD. 

14. Charles de LsnnoT, SeiKnenr de Senzdlles 
(No. 136). Arg., three lions ramp, vert, armed 
gn, croirned or. (My note gives the tincture of 
the field at Barcelona m or, but, aa in Ibe prece- 
dent case, the original tincture woa silver, which 
Tery frequently becomes tamiahed in the lapae of 
time. Mauiico in bis bl37,on adds a crescent go. 
in the centre point for difference; this I did not 
note at Barcelona.) Crest, out of a coronet or a nni- 
eom'a bead arg., armed aod maned of the firat. 
Sod of Jean de Lannoy, Seigneur do Miogoval, 
by Phtlipotte de Lalaine, be was Grand Eouyer 
to Prince Charles, and accompanied him to Spain 
for bis coronation. He was elected Knight of ihe 
Order in 1516. Later in life he was one of the 
Imperial Generals at Pavia and Vioeroy of Naplea. 
Ue died in 1637. 

15. Miohel von Wolkeoatetn (No. 142). 
Quarterly, 1 and 4, Wolkeoitein, Per bend nebuU' 
go. and arg. ; 2 and 3, VUlanders, Az., three 
pallets pointed issning from tbe base, arg. Crest, 
oDt of a coronet or, and between two borna gn.. 
tlie exterior edges ornamented with tbe eyes of 
peacooks* feathers, a hedge of the £rat surmounted 
by three ostrich feathers arg. At Barcelona the 
tinctures of the VilUnders quarters seem to be 
or and ea., but this probably in only tbe result of 
time, under which azure often turns black. Miuirice 
and Chifflet agree in putting the argent first in 
the first quarter, but incorrectly. Neither their 
blaiona nor tbe stall at Barcelona gives any indica- 
tion of the cAam;xi^n< gu., from which the three 
pallets issue in tbe correct blazon of the arms. 
(See Rietfltap, Armorial Qenlral, p. 1139, $ub 
V0C4 ; Triers, EinUitung sit dtr IVapcn-kunst, 
p, 654 ; Siebmaober }VappeHbuck, i. 2U,and Supple- 
ment, vi. IS; Spener, Opui Htraldicum, p. spec 
p. £69, plato xxr.) He wus son of Oswald von 
Wolckenstcin (of a great Tyrolese family) by 
Barbe Trautson, aod, next to tbe kings of Portugal 
and Hongary, was the first knight elected after 
the exteosion of the Order to tho number of fifty 
by Charles V. All tbe knighta who sit below him 
on tiiLs side of tbe choir were also elected at this 
dme. 

16. Gaillanme, Seigneur de Kibaupierre (No. 
144). Quarterly, 1 aod 4, Ribaupierre, Or (but 
TMdly arg.), three escutcheons gu.; 2. Hoheneck. 
Or (reaUy arv.), throe ravens' beads sa. (crowned 
or); 3. (Jeroldseek, Or (r«aUy arg.), billeUy at, 
alioo tamp, go., crowned or, la all the iiuartcrs 
Um flUvBi baa now the appearance of gald. Mau- 
rioe's cut of the arms of this kuight omita all the 
crowns. Both he and Chifll»!t arrange the quarters 
differently, thun, 1 and 4, Uoboosck ; S and 3, 
OtfvJdaeck; over alt Uiboupiene, othnwJu 



1 



Rappoltatein. Greet, tbe bust of a man habited 
in ibe arms of Rappoltstein, on his head a pointed 
(^P "^S I turned up gu,, and ornamented with a 
pheasant's feather in front ppr. It may be noticed 
that all tbe qurirtcrings above appear in the shield 
of the present Prince of Waldeck, whose ancestor 
Cbristian Lewis married Anne Elizabeth, daugh- 
ter and coheireas of George Frederick, last Count 
of Happoltatcin. The actual possession of the 
lands appeara to have passed to Christian, Prinoa 
Palatine, of Blrkenfeld, the husband of Catharine 
Agatha, the other daughter and ooheirest. No 
doubt, however, a friendly arraogemrat wu made, 
for in the next generation Antony Uirie of Wal- 
deck married his first cousin Louisa of Birken- 
feld, daughter of Cbristiun and Catharine Agatha; 
tbe present Dacheu of Albany consequoDlly 
numbers this Chevalier among her aooeators. He 
was the son of William, Seigneur de Ribanpierre, 
by Jeanne du NeuchJ'^t«l. lie was oouoaellor and 
ohanibsrlain of tbe eoipire, served with distiootion 
in Che wars of hia time, and died in 1047, aged 
seventy-nine. 

17. Jean, Seignenr de Wusenaar, Vicomte 
Leyden (No. 140). Quarterly, 1 and 4, Wasacw 

Gn., three crescents arg.; 2 and 3, Leyden, 

a fesa or. Crest, out of a tub gu,, banded or, a 
penache of oatrich feathers az. (Tbe modem 
tincture is sa.) Son of John, Viflconot of LeyJen, 
by Catherine de Halewyn. Thia knight served in 
the war in Italy, aod was severely wounded at 
Pavia. lie served later in the Low ConntriM 
agaioBt the Duke of Queldcrs, and was Governor 
of Western Friezeland. Be died in 1623, aged 
forty, from the effects of a wound from a masket- 
ball received at the siege of 81oten. His arms are 
also depicted on the stalls In the choir of tbe 
cathedral at Haarlem. (See my papers on theao 
stalls in '* N. & Q.," O"* S. ix. CI, 101.) 

18. FraD<;oia de Melun, Cbmt« d'EipIooy (No. 
I4B). Arms and crest as Na 4 above, but with Ibo 
addition of a label of four points in chief 
difference. (This label is not noticed In Man 
or ChifHol.) He was lbs sod of Jean de M*l 
Seigneur d'Espinoy, by Isabella de Luxembou 
and nephew of Hugh de Melao, Chevalier of 
Order. Ue was Hereditary Constable d Flaadars 
and Chamberlain of tbe Emperor. From faim mod 
his wife, Louiae de Foix, dowended the Priacca 
d'dflpiiuiy and the Duos de .T[tvfU!i«>. 

lU. Frttdriqoe de TvK.: ' Alva, Mar^ 

quis of Ooria, Count of :i (Xo. MO}. 

Cheqoy of fifteen (in fivo tttrr* vi throe pui«a)v 
arg. and az. Crr^tt, ont pf a coronet or 
iasuant pj - ;-'iid aa 

orA«n«d, ' . cnm 



Ibo 

I 



was oapti^-geoeral in tbe war with Fnaoe. 





NOTES AND QUERIES. 



123 







wu fto kbte leader of \ht ftrmies of Charles V. in 
Italy and in Spain. Ub mAiried Isabella de 
iSanifca, daa|{hter of tfae Duke de B'JAr, and waa 
^nodfather or tfae more celebrated Duke of AtvA, 
Governor of the Netherlands under Philip TI. 

Diego HarUdo do Mendc^k, Duke de I'ln- 

ifi^ (No. 1.^2). P<ir i»Itirc, the chief and 

on a bend or another ga.; the flanks 

in orle with tho angelio salatation, 

OBATIA TLBSA, BZ. CffSt, betwoOH 

vingfl arg. ihe head of a wolf or. Son of 
Lopez, second Dnke de I'lnfantadgo, by 
Miiria de Lana, daaghter of Alraro, Duke de 
TraxUlo. He oerred at the conquest of Grenada, 
•od fiUed many important ohargcs in Spain np to 
tta6 lime of his destlL 

SI. Ainro de ZanigA,Duka d6Bej&r(No. IM). 
Arg.f a bend aa., over all a chain of fetters in orle 
or. Crest, a hydra or. Sod of Pedro, Duke de 
H«jar, by TereaadeGuzinnn. Uo married his aunt, 
M*rie de Zurit^a, but died without iuue by her, 

S3. Femundo Romontfolck^ Duke de Cardona, 
du. (Na IGti). Qoarterly, I and 4, Per pale, 
1, Arragon-CiirdoDa, Per aaltire, in chief and bnne 
or, foar pallets ko. for Arragon ; in dexter flank. 
Gn., thr«e tblttloi or, for Cardona ; in sinister 
flank, France aDclent, a label f^i., Anjou. 2, 
Am^n-UrKel, Per saltire, in chief and bue 
Anseoa ; in flanks cheqny or and sa., Ur^^cl 
2 and 3, Remootfolck de Pwllas, the arms of the 
empire, the eagle bearing on its brcaat an eacut- 
oheoD ga.» thereon three ears of straw bcndwajfi 
ill pftla or. Crest, an ostrloh argent beaked and 
niMDbered or, in its mouth a horae-sboe of the Brst. 
Sod of Juati Remontfolck, Grst Dtike of CArdnns, 
by Aldonco Henriquez, couatn-gcrman of Fer- 
dinaul and IiAbcllti. 

S3. Fradriqua Elenriquez de Cabrera, Count de 
Melgar, Admiral of Cdiiiille (No. 1^6). The arms 
on uia stall hare been left unfinished, and are 
ortftioly iucorreot. The count bore, Qaarterly 
1 and 4, HenriqueT-., tierced "en mantle arron- 
dtp," 1 and S C^tile, Leon to base. 2 and 3, 
C«far«n, Per pale : 1, Or, a goat rampant within 
a bardure embattled aa ; 2, Per saltire, in ciiief 
ud b«M Arragon, in Sinks Anjou. The whole 
withia a bordnre. Quarterly I and 4, Or, four 
lanoen monnied gn.; 2 and 3, Arg., foar anchors 
or, tha beams az. Crest, an eagle rising sa. , 
crowned and ducally go^ed or, from the collar 
Vk anchor pendant as in the arms. Nephew of 
tha preceding knight, and of rojal but illei^'itim&te 

deweat, tbia noble was son of Xlcaiiquea by 

Marit de VoUsco. Daring the abaonco of 
Charles V. from Spain he was joint regent of 
the kiniHon) with Inigo de Veloaoo, Duke de 
friaa. lie died in 1038, and left no issue by his 
wife Anna de Cibrera, whose arms appear in the 
aliitld above, the whole forming one of the most 
auioof (deoes of heraldic manb^lUng extAut, 



2i. This stall bears only a plain gold shieldH 
sarroaoded by the collar of the Golden F]e«oe.>| 
It was the one which was to be Blled at the ohap-4 
ter by Che election and iostallation of Jacqaes at ' 
Luxemburg (viiU infia). 

25 and 2ti, The space of both the^ie stalls, sita- 
ated at the east end of the south side of the Coro^l 
is occupied by the episcopal throne. We have 
now completed our survey of the stalls on tbQ 
Decani, aoutb, or sovereign's side. 

JoH^ WoonwAED. 

Montrose. 



GRANTS OF WILLIAM III. 
The following contemporary accoant of gnuti^ 
daring the reign of WilUaui III. may be of in- 
t«re«t to your readers. It will be of use to com- 
pare with the public reoords, and was written by 
or for a Yorkshire gentleman of position of the 
time. 

A n Accompt of tkt Oranu ftuid* Met iht Fint Ikty of 
Jan", 1697. 

PeV, 1607. A Grant to Fntncii Vnaghaa of Berorall 
O'^odi ftfid Cliattelli of Frut. Ptomlen to y* rslno of 
1-2W. leized by Hob. SyJerfin. Eiq.. Ute Sheriff of y* 
County of i^ommerMt. upan a ipeoial C«;<U< lUtnttfttuta 
iasuetJ against y'l' IMumley it j'anltor j* uid Vtiuchiui. 

A Grant to Sr. Frin. Leigli. Ktt., lo oonsiJaration of 
fiO^)/. tn b« p* into h\8 Miii'^' Eicheor , and 1.000/. to 8r. 
}lti\. 8hcers or serrnil MoBfUttgca. LsnJa. and Tenem" 
within y Putsb of Sutton at Hone, in y* Cotintj of 
Kent, furfttited by J. HufT'T.), Eiq , aliu Mowsrd, wbo 
hiAndi} outltweil fi>r lligb 1're.M0F), Ilabeiitl. to y* s'* Sr. 
Fnin. and bis BcJri for cvor umler j* yearly rcQt of 
Us. W. 

Mircb.ieQ?^ AGranttoRalpb Qr>y,Btq.,OaTernot)r 
oflterbadoeB. ofl.SOO'.perannumoutofy'dutynf-land \ 
per cent, ariting nilbin y' i' Islkod from '2i^^ July, 
lti?7, during his M»j"* Pleanure, for bis support in that 
Governm'. 

A Grant to Sam. Day, Eiq., GoTcmor of B^rmaJas or 
ninimer I«land>, of ^^tOf. p. ann. out of y* Excbeqr. in 
Gimland from 14»* Jao^, lt97, during lils continuance in 
yi G'iTemm*, 

Ajiril, lljyS. A Rcloate or DUcbarito unto Antho, 
Stcncr and others a> aurctya for l>5n. ItallarJ of n Bond 
of •2,f)')0l. cntro.1 int-i by them to John Dutton Colt, E»(i., 
head Cotl^ctfir of y* Oiutoinii in y* Port of Bristol (to. 
whom y* Raid Rsllard. *rbo bad withdrawn himself, waa'i 
Clerk), w'h an Authority to give Allowance of y s^ 2,000f. 
to Jf* B* Mr. Coll (wtio ansiitni y* a* Bond to bii Maj" 
upon bit Aooo* of Customes not epeclally appropriated 
by Act of Parliani'. 
' .^lay, ItWS. A Privy 8*nl for paying nntn y Prince of 
Iicnmark S.^CKt'f. with IntercRt nftcr y* Bate of CI, p 
Coat, per Ann. from SI"- July. 1091. in Hea of 340,0 
Kixd.'ltan dne to v' i^ Prince upon two MortitsROS w' 
ho hjid upon y' hie of Temeren and the BaillUges 
Trcnsb'Jttell und Sioinliortt, part ofy' nulceofHoLstela'L 
Tarritorys, w" MortRtjrcs woro lurrmdcrcd to j' ■•' 
Duke upon his Mnj"" prutniw to pay y* latDe. 

Hii Maj"' •t};i>cd a Warrant authorizinjc 7* Ixmb 
Com"' of y Trea'ry to direct y* Tnutses f^r sale of Pea 
Parm Rents to convoy a fee farm Rout of 06^. \'ii. iit. per 
anttum issuing out of Brigitook Park, in y' County of 
MorthainptOTi, to PraqooM, Coantesfl Powsger of Sulii- 



124 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[flik8.X.Aini.».rSl. 



bury, lier Ileirg and Ktaigan for crtr, in Oorrobomtlon 
of btr Tiilo to J' t* Kent and the Arreara tliereoT vr*^ 
%\\f liBil purohued under liiB Maj". 

A Qnnt U> Ifnac Manley. Eiq., of 200^ per umure 
for tbe lifu o{ his Patlicr Jolm Alantvy, Biq., p&yable 
out or>* HerenUB ofy* Poit Offie« from Laiy Day, 161i8. 

A Prtry Beal for iniuitiDg & peniioa nf 120f. p«r annnin 
unto O. Fieldiit;;, E*q.. Into ooo nf j' Pitgei o( bfinour, 
froDi Ladyilay, J^lfT, ilnring k» Maj'" pleaiure. 

.Tuna, 169!^. A Oriiit to y* Mayor and Bur{;?»«i of 
y* Town of Nf w Caille upon Tine of j* Office of Trover 
and Poiior there for y" term of 3 utcs tborein men- 
tiooeJ. 

A ilUchanra nnto y' Marqueis of Winohuter of 1,01^0 
0UDc«i of nbit< Plate delirered bim from y* Jawell 
Office for y •enric* of h'lM Table aj Cltamberl&in to y* 
late Queen. 

July, llijj.l A Wamnl for phying unto y" Trea'er of 
Oreenwich tlnfpibtl 19,500/., iieinit ^* Finei lately im- 
poin) by Pnrliam' on John Gimlet nn'l utbers. 

A Grant uulo Nat. Crtw of y' forfeited Efltatei botb 
real km) perauoal fonnd br Inqninlion to belunii to 
Artbor Maocey, Robert Child, and I Hunt, conrloled of 
lli|>h Treason, nibjeet to y* pay*"' r-f i!M/. Ct. and intsreHt 
to Kic. AtbtuM, c^q., and 3(J0f. to «uch perioa aa hu 
Maj'' tball apjioint. 

A Grant t** y' Cliurchirardeni of 81 Mamnt'a. Weit- 
mtnMer, for y' BeneUtt of y* Poor of y BniiTParUb, of y* 
Old Cloek-booae atd y B«tl tberein in y Pallica Yard, 
Wcitm', tbo ground nbetoon y* a^ Clock houM itands 
being only oxcuptc<J. 

A Grant to Otto. Ilaron of Scbawin, hii lleiri aiid 
AMignes for erer, of t* Eatate of Krngent Maria bis 
Wife, w^ by tWMa of his beins an Alien Bora is reiteJ 
in bii Maj". 

A Grant to Dr. Titus Ofttoa for 90 yoan, if be and 
ItrbeccAh lii5wiff> or cUber of tbem aball ao lon£ live, 
of an Annuity of SOO/. per ann. out of y' BcTfiuiie of y* 
Pirtt iiffice from UO^r Pay, ICyS. 

A Grant and DeniiK to Sidney, I<ord Godolpbin, of y* 
Jtlcf of ^illy babcnd. for y* term of 80 years ^ftnr thu 
Expiration of y* laase in beioff. of y* yearly Rent of 40^, 
iayal>l« to y* Uccoiver General ofCurnwaU. 

Au|f. law. A Grat.t to Elix. TilloUon, WiJdow of 
J* late Arch Billiop of Canierbary, of an Annuity of 
20tV. per annum in addition to ber former Annuity of 
400(., payablooutof y* Ihity of land | per cent.durtnic 
lior life. 

Wm. Stkm, ai.B.c.s. 

Mexboroagfi. 

(Tolrcontinvid.) 

K.B,— The other coDteots of Ibe manasovipt 
book from which I have quoted the Above ure :— 

1. Abitnct of letters li^ned to y Lords Justices of 
Ireland importlntc Grants to be made in j' Kingdom 
froml"* Jan', 1007. 

2. An Aecomptof Gnnta iii«d« ilnc« tb« ISU* U*rch, 

im. 

8. Ab4lrftot of lett«r^ ftc (aa in No. 1). from 18». 
aUrcb, law. 

4, Report to PsHiament on furfaited ^Ut^s in Ire- 
land, Jtc, signed Fra. Annestey, John Trencbard, Jauos 
llnmllton, and Ifen. Lousford. 
\e. KwitsOranied otil of iho Honour of muilsor nod 

_ntTS of Oion an-J Berks. 

8. Tbe Humble P«tition of Jno. Uennett, E«n., |o (he 
OluDCvllur of the [>otcby of Lancaster, &e. 



OnttrsoK At A PiALtcT Word. — la your 
kindly ntiev of tb« Tolnne of Sngluh IHtM 



Word* of the Eighti^rUh Century, from Notfaan. 
Bailey's DkiionaTy, which I baye edited for the 
Eoglub Dialect Society, an objection i« initdfi to 
tbe inclauon of the word chrytom. But this is 
a dialect word, used, Bailey puiots out, to signify 
children who died before they were "chri'«i*'»!*>ii " 
In Devon they were c»1l«d chrtjdmf.r» (Uen 
Folklore^ p. 132). I «houUl hurdly have d 
yoa on tkia lubject but for the opportunity of a.-ky< 
ia^ that the SabhtUh Memorial fur July (where the 
review is quoted) oontaini a facaiiuUe of the aiito- 
fCriipb of Nathan. Boiioy from tbe Oburob Book of 
the Mill Yard Seventh Dny BaptiBt Oburoh. 

WiLLiAu £. A. Axoy. 

S1NO01.AR IJptTAPB.— The following, with iU 
curious comment, from CJinreh lielU of July 5^ 
should find ft place iu the coliimni of *' N- Sc Q ": — 
" .\t the parish church of Rollcil<y, ilcanery of Plsgf, 
and dinceto and county of Norfolk, is tbe fuHuwin^ lin- 
gular in»crii>iiou upon a large flat »(uno in tbe cbaocot . 
' Ni>e Peifon Uiat s on rarlli can bappy be, 
Beatitude oumes after Exetiuir.' 
Tbo rhyme appears to rctjuire falsi* noantlly and in* 
correct spelling (ExBr<iuIab or Cxf>iuisfr|, though place4 
over ono uf a goodly family," 

H. W. Hinrett^ 
17, UlUOrop Crotccnt, Camden flood, If. 

Have*.— "TempB do Madame nttvic." Thla 
pbrziae i« given by De Ltnoy (i. 84) as e^^\\va^^^t^^ in 
m^uvfiit tfmp$. It is cited from Oudin's ('- 
i'ViMfoMCJ, p. RS4, but no explanation of m _ 
ifi attempted. In Le Uoui, Diet. Comi'jw, I And 
the worJ havt " pour roiii«re, sec, dd-eharnil, pAle," 
&c Eoquefort gives ** Uavi, doas^ch^S, nmigre." 
Littr^ baa "fTdre^pAIe, moigrc," Ac^nud itdda ilmt 
in the eeventeenth century they alio said htwu. 
D'Aubigny uses the exprewion " lea ycnx hart'f$, 
I» barbe blanche et lonKue.*' In Michera Diet. 
(TArgot " Havre " and " Le Grand Harro " stand 
for " Dien," and Michel supposes this to be due to 
the crucifix and tbe appearance of Christ on the 
crosa ; be quotes Cotgravo as tranalating kavrt by 
grim, fell, horrid, gbaatly. If now we take thia 
name, accent tbe last ayllable, and so convert it 
into a surname ; it might roughly bo rendered 
into Eogliab aa the "weather of Mrs. O^ 
and ifi tbii way a kind of aenae may be ; 
to it that even Frenchmen havo __^ 

vealcd it with. I doubt if ono Frenchman 
thousand would attempt to explain it in any 
It mast, after all, reat with Frenchmen to 
or reject the ubovo. I ouly put it forward ab a 
oarioflty that ia possible, nnd aa being better than 
leftring to atniogs » pbmM witb no vxplatutioo at 
aa C. A. Wakd. 

Daverttoek fliU. 




RoBiiiT SountKY xy: 
««ea a letter irritt«n by »S 
R*T. J. W, Wart«r, k 



nbi&h 1m> ft^a 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



125 



'nothioff conM ever induce his fAther-io-Inw to 
ii&nk a letter." The name gcntleranD cnolosed to 
tmf fneod tli« liite Mr, Win. lilott, of tbe Cieaeml 
Pofit OiUcc, tbe fQlIowiiif; aute^^rupb lines, sent by 
SouttieT iu reply to a gcDtlemau named HuupaoD, 
vbo hwl a«ked bitu for ti frank : — 

" Ob t Ttiond of tbe Aat^t^phs, look not fo bliuk 
At rcctiTinp tiijr ansir.-r and getting no ' fnink '; 
It ii not. l>cliL-vc lue, because 1 nm williti^ 
To fioeyou f>ir ukini; tbo earn of od« •billing; 
A dftv or two tiencc the neVApiipen will tLow 
To «U tlib king'ii lubjccts wbjr I liaro done no ; 
In gncNinc tbe re&ion mean time be miinMd, 
And hold Uobort Bnoihoj from franliin)' oxcuiod; 
An<l b« lura that you evor will An<J, ion of 8ini, 
The/ntnifil of men, tbouijh no/ranter, in biin." 

It sboald bfi sixid in expUnntion tbat Sotithey wafi 
Doce retaraod to Parliament for a pockoi boroitf^b 
in bU ubicDcc from England, and Lh&t on reluming 
hnnie he lost so tlmo in applyini; for the Chiltera 
Hundred*. E. Walforh, M.A. 

llyJe Park ManiioDi, N.W. 

KnY or CnuKcn buhivj ivith Clehk.— The 

key of Bishop's Norton Church, Liucolnsbire, w:ui 

found under tho head of Matthew Lidgett, who 

vol clerk, and died in 1743. It was girento the 

Rer. E. G. Jurvis. Vicar of Hacktborue, b^ 

* Zachnrifih Wilaon, pariah clerk, io 1849, and la 

j novr in thr posfiession of bia iOD, Mr, Jarris, the 

I Virar of liurton Stalher. J. T, F. 

I1|>. IlaldcM'e niiir, Durhnm. 

8rKLx, raeantn;; a thatch-prg, does nofc occur in 
Bulliweira DictiovaTt/. It is there expliiined aa 
/'A Bplinler or narrow slip of wood. H«'nce a 
very leii» person." We .ii-e told th:it it i« » North- 
country word. It ftppvttrs to be the popular tenii 
for & ibatch-|>cg iu tbo n«iL:hbuurhood of Ponte- 
fnicL Tbatch-pega are eo deaifiuated in an adrer- 
tiaemeat cjitd of & aala of farniinf; Htock and 
iiiipiemculH wbicb took place at Fair Leigh Fanu, 
in tliat jiarisb, on April 30. 
. Edward Pkaoock. 

' wttiforJ Atanor, Brlgg. 

Ap-moR or "The Cawp of Refuok." — In 

T'l- r..r^y Sliirts, by Charlotte M. Mnson, the 

, in her description of *' The Fen 

■ ref'-ia her readers to" MinM Marlinciiu's 

<'a(r r-." This 18 not tbe lirflt time that 

|I b:i^ . book ascribed to lliea Mnrtioeau. 

J bclicTc Uiiii it i.1 a fact that tho real author wan 

'rhurlA^ Mat'farlane, Esq., father of that Miw 

■I'* who figured as MiM Longworth's 

I I Rompanion in "the YeWerton trial." 

ill.-- ' .^tory called Tht Comp of Refit^ 

waa in two imall volumes, by Charlea 

Kill 1344, and was the Grat of tbe series 

lo( ' iih Novelets," tbe word novifet, or 

'LiU» uu>t;*, being then used for the first time. 

Optbukkt Beds. 



WmTB*a "Seldorhi," Cdrioub Mibprist.— , 
In Letter xlvii. (Barrington serlea) of thia workj 
(edit. 1663, Nat. Cooke, Strand, p. 174), spcakinff i 
of houae crickets, it is said tbat " from the bamiog 
atmosphere which tbej inhabit they arc a yen 
thrifty race." A few Hnca further it is added, 
"They orenot only very thrifty, but Tcry Toracioua." 
Of course the word is thinly, tha long i having 
been taken for/, and the r and i traoRpoaed. As 
thrift ia n subject now enjoying some attonttoOj 
this error, if it baa got, into other uioderD editiona 
of the work, should be amended. A pleasing ihirti 
bas not generally been s&soci&ted with the idea of 
thri/L F. KiKO. 

Pcaimonb, Saisex. 

A CuRioeiTT IN Names. —Tbo EatUrn Dail^ 
Freu, Norwich, Monday, July 31, records tbat a 
dealer at Newton St. Faith's was sumtnoned toj 
show canoe why bis childj " Bbelomilb Bathabebtti 
Adorn Hone," tibouKl not bo vaccinated. Tbesaj 
names may not be unworthy a corner in " N. & Q.* j 

Wii. Vincent. 

Belle Vu« Biw. Norwioh. 

BicuEAOED Cheauers. — One of oar medicat. 
mcn here tells nie that the inbabitanta, aodl 
specially the smaller inhabitantK, of the nexb 
villiigd of Cbenni are often cidled by their 
" cbnfBng " neighbouring friends " Big-headed 
Cbomuera." I do not know tbe derivation of T ' ^ 
ralher uncomplimentary cpilbet, nor can I nr I^ 
Bee much reason for it. J. L. McO. 

b'utton, Surrey, 

" No 00." — May I call attention io % recent 
cock-fight Bf explaining tho common expree«ioad 
" no go" in tho vense of failure f it ie stated tbat] 
there were on the occasion so many rounds and 
60 many no goes; F. KiJfO. 

reiuniBnb, Saisex. 

Scotland. — Ta discnssing tbe races of Great 
Britnio, Dr. Freeman bos claimed tbat the river 
Forth is (he true boundary of the Kogliiih people, 
and not tbe Tweed. It is interesting to find that 
he is 9up[Hirt*d in thic, not only on ethnological 
grounds but by aiitbenlic hiatoric record. In tbe 
lifgiam Mtijtiiaitm, or book of laws, cunipile<I in 
Ihe time of David, the son of King Malcolm III., 
there is a direct statement on tbe subject, KtDg/| 
David beg:)n bia reign in 1124, a.d., and reigne 
twenly-nioe years. When sales were mado, for] 
example, of cattle, tbe buyer required from th4 ' 
seller another person to warrant that they bad not j 
been stolen. If any one afterwards challenged the 
cattle as hie, the warrant was called to court, and 
if the challenger proved his caso the warrant was 
fined to as much, sometimes, as tbrico tbe value of 
the cattle. The historic and geographical interest 
lies in these three sentencea of book i, cap. 17f 
numbered 6, 7, and 8:— 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



[«« 9. X. Acq. 10, '64. 



" If he wbo U oltatldngcil ftllegea tliftt tiis vrftmnt 
dwfelU in ArgjU, which nerUini to BootlnntI, h« Mlmll 

nto tbe E«r) of Alli"le or to the Abbot of Otrn- 
ifrocli, nml t)i«7 hImII fierii) tlioir iiifin mUIi liitn, wtio 
ftltnll I>e witFiFAws to this &s*izc niiJ rinlinurice. If uny 
miin ilwr'Hin^ in Kintjrro i^r Cuirall iflcsl'ciJ n* a warrant. 
tho Ctrl of MeiitcUh iball leiiJ tils men with hint vha 
ealli the WBirant to be witnefi. All thiMu who dwell 
beyiiDiI tho water of Forth, in Lothlitn, Gallouar. or 
other pUces, eJiill answer to their challenicen of Scot- 
land within the flpaco of ilx weeks at the hrii^se of Stir- 
Hog, io oouronnitjr with the ordinance." 

[n tho time of James I. of EaglaDcI, 1609 a,v., 
Sir John Skene, of Ciirriehill, theo " Cierk of our 
Soverei({n Lord's IleKislLT, Oounoil, and R'jIIb," 
nnd who wits also Lord-jVdvocnto of Scotland, 
nddod not«s to the aboTe pauAge. With re#pect 
to Argyle as pertnioiDg to Sootlnnd, he defineo 
Scollaod as '* the parts of (his realm north of the 
wnter of Forth "; and on the reference to " Lotbiiia, 
Gidloivitj, or other phtctifl/* he has the fnrthernote, 
that they iiro *' the pnrta of this realm upon the 
south side of the water of Forth." If Scotland nt 
that period niny bare been popalarlj considered 
u extending to tho Tweed and bho Solivay, it 
is clear that tho older liuiila were well known 
to the Uwjers^ statcstucD, und biatorions of the 
seTenleentb century. T. S. 

Faikfajc. — The followinjj original nnpubllihed 
([ think) letter of Sir T. Kuirfax, in mj possession, 
may he interesting to some of your readers. It 
has been pronoanced by good aathority Co be 
genuine. I gire it exact : — 

Jan. 1048. I.. CheUey. 

3(y Ycrie good Lord,— The men in the Writ awm to 
fiToiir our C&D40 mut^h — ai^d the Lord Genera 1 1 fi Io high 
BpreittH therat— the Diuniall hath Intt.ly (ciuen much 
falio intelligmico and all riL'tlanoe 14 on foote to clisooucr 
the firint«r i<f it. Aibhuruaiu bath l-eenc in our partJi 
lat. and 10 irreatl; luipeatcl t<i lean umch to tho Uovmio 
—butt we havB a watchfull eye on him and bii moue- 
menta an<l he aoeth nntt long btt large should all prourc 
oa mv thinke— Itt hath bccne propoMd to Mn<l ovrr 
S0,0D41 Red Coats into Ireland which ii yett itiuch <lia- 
luHMd—the rehclls hauing nMe m larj;o riomhrrt— all 
thing! are Tarie troubloua aod ^iueth grrat |it.-r|ilcxity 
tu injrHlf and th« L 'rde Generall bult we Un hope with 
the Almish'.ief aMiitence to our Counoclli atl will lio 
•ctUed — Hammond wa hare found a truilr and worthy 
brare roan and nobly fitt for bU (;t«at einplovnteiiL In 
truth tbine and honcitly, T. rainrAX. 

Endorted oa outer tide : To he Earls of M* att 
Wc*t-. 

The aboTB proves two important hiatoncal fnotn — 
that Ireland then wns dialarbcd, and that the 
aoldiere of the Fitirfax caiiw wore red coatj^ which 
bae b«en considered ft disputed point. 

0. Qdldixq. 
Oolebeiter. 



T»- 






. H'ock'fl int«DHe 
«f rie«j with bin 

•n^-^-u. ii,>.,., ...i..,,- ... ,..,,11. Ill riich deconUloa^ 
Mm not oaJyalwa^ been popular belief, but ii 



n touch of nature that baa even made iU way, 
exceptionally, into the formal and artiAcial acloQCo 
of heraldry. The severe hniiUAKC of bhuon boa 
been content in his special fsvotir to set aside Ita 
usual conventional word " displayed "fortbeexten- 
Hion of his tail, and b.-ui replnced it by dcecribi 

him as *'a peacock in his pride." But is popul 

belief rxcecding the truth when it goes a Bt«p 
further ? It is also said that he is equally con- 
acions of hia defects, so that when he is fully e^H 
panded itod basking in the adniinitinn of nil natij^f 
tind tho world, if he Hhould be reminded of m^ 
hireh and shrii*ky voice by the words " Sin^ us a 
song," his criDoline would immodiat«lr collapse. 
TnouAS Kkilslakc 
Briitol. 



tioP 



A Parallel.— There is tbla parallel in " 
Steele'4 " Prologue to Ambrose Philips'* IHatr 
Mttther tu the well-known lineA in Johnaon's 
I'dtiUy of Hunuin iVUhn: — 

"IfOt observation with oxt«n«ive view 
Survey mankind from China to Pero." 

Jobnioo* 
" Tin nothing when a fancied ioene *a In liew 
To Dkin from Coreut Garden to Peru," 

8leeli 

Mr. J. E. Payne, in his edition of Johnson's poem 
for the Clarendon Press, IdSI^ has this note» 
p. 10:— 
" ' China In Peru,' a suuesUon from a contemporarf : 
* The wonders of each region view 
Fnm frvifn Lapland to Pom.' " 

SoAUie Jenyni, Hif. (0 Lord ZoMfttw.irSS. 
My copy of the Dittrt$ud Mother is Lond., 173fi, 
tho same year with the quotation of Mr. Payne. 
But Steele's use of the rhyme " view— Peru," mtut 
have been the earlier one. He was knighted on 
the acceaaion of George I., and died in 1721). The 
DUirtutd AIothtT was published in 1725, probably 
with " Mr. Steele'* Prologne." 

Ed. MABraALU 

A New Thadk, Iflfll.— In Stamboul water ii 
M>ld in the streets, and at the Porte there are Diea 
selling, at a penny & tumbler, water from a choice 
aqueduct, *' Toxim Soo." 'There ore also many 
shops selling nothing but w.iter, plain or iced, at 
a penny a glass, and yet next door, porhupt, there 
is a ttbil, or public drinking station, where wn(| 
can be got free. Here there is no sliup for wat 
and in many of the refreshmenl ei^ 
may be lemonade, wine, or beer wbf-i- 
'■ ' " — •■^r, where it id not sold. Tur 
' >inpany, in the month of July, has pB 

, ,-^ (,► i„. -.1,5 r,, th.. p.uwngen fa 
II ' \r\ i.( A p"ri" jc day wo may be 

nn 'pSi'il '.'ll i» Our .- '..J - .- L -:-.<■¥. 

Htdx CuinKK. 

Historical MSS. Oomcfssiov : Jkr. Tat 
— In the nav Tolumo of the lUportg of the 



ATUlgyi 

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127 



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t 



toricAl MSS ComraUsion there ia aa extract from 
tt«r of Jer. Taylar, in which the name of the 
ID to whom it la sent ia left liUnk. The letter 
Intod id full in Clebcr'ii Lif< of Tutjloi\ nod it 

ippwn thpr« that it wr« adilroftsed to John 

Erclja. Tiij'lof*^ H'urlu, EJen'it edition, toL i. 

P-lxL £o. Mailsuau. 



IT-- i:it oorTB«pon-1onti dfl^irintf informfttion 

■TO f « of only rrlvfcte interest, It afitt tlicir 

nuhf r.'MRi to tlieir qoprip*, in order tlmt the 

tuweti lUMjF bd kdilreMcd to them dlreot. 



Tupi>oiupiiiA IsFERNALW. — 1. " Flve milcB be- 
Toad bell, where Peter pitched hU waistcoat.'* — 
I much re[{ret that whco I met with this curious 
i)iinu« I avglectcd to make a note of its wbere- 

An eminent book collector, noted for bis 
nta.nrf>^ declared that a man who pubUshed a 
ik without an index oiiglit to be put into the 
ihinleM hcjond boll, where the devil could not get 
a him " iTeinpU Bar, October, 1892, p. 11)1).— 
Vet the thiitle appeara to be in BOOie sense one of 
the doril'a plnnti. " HaTiog met the Lord one 
(lay, the denl aaked for oats and backwheat as fats 
reward f»r hnvini; tiiken part tn llie creation of the 
world. The request was Kraoted, wborenpoD the 
(Jeril began to dance for joy. The wolf came up 
and suddenly asked the meaning of this frivolity. 
Is bis confusion the devil forgot wbit had been 
Kiven to him, und replied that be wiu dnnciDK for 

•■ • >- vinK received the rush and the IhiHtle, to 
-itflliWHtill -Mlher^h" {AikentJPtm. .Sept. 23, 
.. -, ...iow of La Mythologit dea FlanCu, by 
Aoi^eln dc (jtibernatUX 

3. Heckie^:tirnie or llecklebirnie. — The only nc- 
couDt Riren of this pluoe Is tbit it is "three miles 
Wyond hell." In Abettlrensbire it is used nearly 
in a similar manner. If one snyv, "Go to the 
Htil,'* the other often replies, *' Go ymi to Heckle- 
biroie " (Jauieaon'd Scottim Dictionaryf 1 vol., 

i. " Villi ' md tall, bnndsome wttliab 
]■' owerifoei your wit; 

But I -.-onr Tiride refmia 

I' lye'lUit. 

la I .-'I! «it. Imt, 
T . , . .11: 



If - 



u 



Liist dwel." 



Qaoted in " N. & Q ," IJ'" 9. viii. filT. 

fi. In the early old Enali«b of JTj/ckt-Scifmtr, 
the hero, In il^ncribin^ liia travelm, says :— 

** Sir*. I lisrs betn in many a country 

• ■ • 

Also in the land of ftumbdow, 
TbrM mile out of liell." 

Qaatfrd in *' X. & Q /• B^ & tiii. 186. 
WiU eoiuebody txplaia forme (I) Pet«r ftud his 



waistcoat ; (2) the thistles ; (3) llecklebirnie ; 
(4) Pine's choir ; {&) the land of Kumbelow ? 

e. K. 

HibtoriialTriihs.— In the MS. letters of Dr. 
Richard Pococke, Bishop of Oaiory, famoui as a 
traveller in tho East as well as over these iijand% 
there are reforencei to trees which it would bo 
interestluft to hear something of now from know- 
ledge of the localities. The query i» if there aro 
relics or traditions still exintioK with regard tq 
what the Irish bishop recounts, as under, in big 
autograph vohiuie of 17S7, preierved among th^j 
MSS. of the brltisb Museum. In bis letter dai 
"Dunkton, March 24, 1757," the following appears : 

" I left SoQthsmpton on the 'ilit, and passing tbroii(;b 
Elini; eanic to tlia tiirnpika in Salisbury Bo«<l, in which 
1 wrnt for tinriis time, and left it to the right to go in 
the mvl to Riojcwood, whicli ii mvlc very good near as 
fur, if not qaito. aS the oaitle of MaIwochI. The castle 
it only a tart^o Romui camp. Towardi tlis enil of this | 
roiid we Mw the boundary stnno hctfr«r«n Rlin|; and 
.Minsted narlnhfls, Ascendinj; the hilt, we posted 
tlir.)ii|{b Oic C'lftl* of Malwood without knofr>D|C it, 
which ii dcicribcd ks oons'iRtiny of mnny acres anl tliafc 
Urgo oakt tli^" f^n the laiiks round it. Bui a little 
beyond it, hiJT a milt to the right of the road at the 
summit of the hill, we were directed to tite site of the 
famcus oak which, it is said, blew oti Chriitmu Day and 
withered t>eftire night. Palioici were put up round it by 
Charles II., and the tree bfing quita decayed, and the 
wood taken awty, a triangular jiillar wu Mt up, about 
sixteen feet hish. Thsio tnicriptions ara on the three 
sides of it : First, ' Here stood the oak ou which an 
arrow, shnt by fir Walter Tyrrel st a stag, Klaoced and 
•truck Willittm II., sumiuned RuFu^ in the breait, of | 
wliicb he initantlv died, on Augoit 1^, A.t>. 1100'; 
second. ' King WilU'iim II. being ilaia. as hefora related. 
t*as laid on a csrt belonging to ouo Furcfaoss. and 
drawn from thocce to Winchester, and buried in tha 
cathedral church of that city'; third. 'A a 17<A, tha4 
where an erent m mrmnrable had happened might not 
liereaftcr he unknown, thii stone wss sst up by John, 
Lord Delanarr, who has seen the trot (frowlng in this 
place.'" 

From Kllcsmcro, in Sbropsbiro, with date of 
June, 1757, the bi.<)bop wrote an account of an- 
other tree associated with an important erent io 
Koglish history : — 

"Seven miles from WolverbamptooisBouobel.fanious 
in blitory for beinK Lho pUce where Charles II. Iiiy hid 
after the battle of Worcenter. Ricbard PoTcret, a weiOtliy 
farmer, who lived at Hubal, k milo to the east of Tonga), 
had tha gresteit bind in tha trsnsaction of this affair. 
In the hou4o they show, up in tha garret, the trap-door 
by which the k'tuc went down and sat In an enclosed 
idace to which tbora wai no other vntnince, t>eJog sepa> 
rated from aclosct bol<^w hr a plastered jinrtition, atid tha 
whole room wsi pliatered over so that the trap door 
coald not be Kon. In a pnrbmr behw is the bed lie 
lay in, to whicli tbe wainccot npenM, and I nuppoxe the 
landlord. Pi's-Ilerbert, a Roman Catlmlic. liung up over 
it a print uf syuunic pvrson with tht^ urniuiieatof a cross 
and thia timtto, ' .Mi^ero ■uciitiiNere neclo.' Opnoiite is 
anothiT tflo'«t. inhere the king uerd to *it We wore 
llien c-in(hit*tctl to Ihf lite nf the oak. Close to it is sn 
oak ahoai aersntj or eighty years old, which tliev raised 
from an acorn of the tree, Upon a botigU of tiiat tree 



XOTES AXD QUESIBB. 



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^ nil 4bv UciB fe aia* «tdK «A M 1^ 

CfL U^ Ltmt, «fc» Mikted la «^ wm« tf 
JCbf (M«lL akm Ife fcallk ^ Wii Hi" 
n«« VM M "ikpfll imufftim" iB 1757 f»- 
litteC to 1h» «nM^ ite coliaJ hMte dtod a 
JM7. ii v«dil W«r «• to ka*v tf it uttin 
UMU X, & 

tiM«»a ftt. S4«.«7, sai 

D«tM««f««« o# CtfVBca to T«« Natstitt or 
Ylis l!k«a>nr Vf Mfjr.'fa t^ ptfiifc faKutocI ftad 
IM« pMaftffw;--^ lUelwk Mto de Biwiaa ftudato 



M^Mi 4K TU , Mtof« di» MMM Btpif bri> 
mC*«W« mmmi «■« «b opfaMii habcri qootooBk 
(WftHMk- l«MIW^totwniUuroth« 
Amrii hi r^A^ lad * afaniUr dadiattoo. It u 
Mt — t i md iM Zmatf» TUtounu— or, nali«r, it 
k «atod M Maf didteitod to Si. Utf/. I ouy 
•M UmI • firr jma u» a TfllM* Ctir wh held on 
lh|<iwh if a, Um day of tb» mtority <rf Uw B.Y,M. 
Jona BvArriBtD Obtos. 
i l iwtia a r«t>Mii<fcMi BMCfffy, Snfflum. 

llfllQ fJS Vfaoa,— What \» koown oooccrniog 
Bi|pD d> Vi»>^ w^, ta tb« uriy part of King 
pmy f ■, «M "B^naiieaUiui Ptfitariie 

Ka, I ■ ruUoUi ftt Vmcod"} or. 

FaUal i4/#iJ •) I^Jtllll llunJraJoruiii. 

iithnAmUtm ■■ nuui ^t MorUu, Col. 

flh—mwi, C«l U«lui«tuui Clurtuniii. V. 

ft w i r Of.Ar< Iba Amarieu itoUnoao, vu of 
SmM oHda. Uotmt Olar. lad nanbaat of 
tmtti$fM(, ititfaflar nf RkvAUId, tiufr(«d In 
■•97 Haaflab HUtoTi aod bad bv bar an oatir Ron, 

1^llj*(i. wli'< nrfiir/ruiMt t/i AiiiKrlin uiiil wna Iiikt lit 
Of 

d' 

ttlti. A» >ti oil 
barefAiletl. Ctm 

bbaacant} w. Uiu-uuivi. 

BarabMB, Buolu. 

BfflK _in n loi! ],176tt)to 

^^ "■ ridrw Walji » rorr uo- 

laToarablti oUtry of tbU pnitfl*. Uiaa ]liabo|i 



^ AaalK, -wxfli arifavars Ir a fiviaK P^vn bim 
I? la frrbsr fSe HibarO. I ■■ aBxwiu to 
ftad aia vbec £aa< ini aJi|MJBlid to tke ae of 
abMa,aidiiilKit*isc«a Wd vto Nshop 
|a a |iHfi<^ a foinr te <faii a^intaaMl T 



' Oe aadura 

■Ito— lili 



2v pAisa 




aafcaic 

rwrnAmmat, mm m^^a^Uk m^ aatil he 

b Mi. Tantev^Jhi^ Alb ^CJT^ or io 
Ua £^ ^larf Maaalig, ktt hara biUd to 
iadiliacaKhR F. Exxs. 




— b aaaxiMi vilk 
V«aaa««asif< 

tf ibaMb<tf thanf^ 

I na ' 

iifti 

laGbaldUA' 
alinbotod to Bariana, ^Mi i 
viik Ifac hmU « aM^ di^mad * W«K kii . 




balbnd. 

SrourA ftiti UayaaaaayrfyBawadan 

know of aay pactaal, m aagaaag of a yartiali, 
of Mn. Dfapw, Staca^ Eb^ via «a botiad m 
Briatol Oathedral I Aa j«akaa«, kaboataa Jft 
Bombay, aod bacaf Cma dat faaeib I Mi ao^ 
intmatcd in tUa aH^tA Slim, ia U» bttan^ 
ipeaka of tvo rwrtraita havlag beaa tahaa af Uiia 
beaatifol, vortUea anaia I haaa fnad ta 
"* X. & Q." waaMxr aavaa to Matfi^ifi af aba 
on kiodrad nbjaeta, bat to oa I kaaa Ml BMt 
with any allimon. iAScaa Dovaia*. 

Fnons nv Trkuvp.— Ta^K AQ.*af Jaaa §1, 

IB.'VL, it ia lUtod that fioci vaa fal yBmajtraif 

in Ireland by ipiira iatrodafad,aataBfarlMBl| 

bv a Fellov of Trinity CoDn Mfii^ to 1«U^ 

Will tonia of your uwit a pm i d aato haat fta IsaS* 

n«aa to gira tb« aamc of tba VMtv t afa iioJ Ic^ 

a« I have hard it aaaitod tbat all a nry caHy 

p«riod frt^ vere Daaeaooa ia Iiakftd, bat wan 

rxtf nnmat«d by tbfl Kotvay rate, aad w* apm 

: liy n Fcllov of Tri^ fWpL «faa 

I'VK 2(1. 172i. aad U«aat ~ ' 

;iior FaOow 1743, 

fO f taHHa dm of iiil 

fii.iHi Lii iu oti'or tu to tba Ttllov aka bad a MO^ 
tiality for frogs. A. B. CL 

8r»ii on SrKtiK Favilt.— InforBuftaoa b m- 
qn»ilod 0*^ . .riintctA a podixNt) n0ir£ac ^ 
pUce of ! ti Irotaaa ud ih» daaand- 

anta of lli' ,; namad aoai of Biefaatd SjfllSi 

Ku}., of Btidgsnorthj oo. Salop^ wbo waa fifioc in 



I a Jaai^ 



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I 



16£.% to wit, Opnr)>e Sjnge, eMmt non, born in 
)59-l.died ia 1(;53, buriM at St Morj MAgdnlen's, 
Bridg«aortb (be was Btabop of Cloy ne, wu bwioe 
married, leavtnjr obUiJrcn by both wiv«5); Joeepb, 
>«cODd Bon ; Tbom», fourth ; Richard, fifth ; 
John, sixth ; S»Dinet, sereotb (SAiuuel Synt;, 
inqoiniion Uken nt Oahirkenleo, co. Limerick, 
K»reh S, 166S or ICSS: Samuel Sing, inquisition 
taken at Brcy, co. Wicklow, Juue 1, 1688 or 
1680, ri(i< liec. Bept. of Ireland^ p. 612. Query, 
Donol both of these inqtiitiitioDS refer to one nnd 
thft Mine per^oD^ nniiiely, Snmtiel Synir, fforcntb 
Km of Ricb&rd Syng, of Brid^'eDortb /); Joshua, 
cigbtb. 

I have not mentioned either the third or ninth 
■on of Bicbard Syng, because the former {I3en> 
jamio) left no iisue, while that of tbo latter 
/gj.i _- TV, ^jj ^ ^^ij known. Answers woy 

be P. 3. P. Conner. 

i:.'^, ...... ^.^bteontb SUoct, E'Lilatlelpbio, Pa. 

Dahikl Nd5k dk Tatarez, LL.D., D.D. — 
Can any of your c-irroipondcnts fumisb me with a 
clue to this per!<nnri^e, a ciiixen of ZwoIIp, in Hol- 
land, who pmctt-Htd -ds a pbyHicinn in Paria more 
UwB » century uyo I FiiEDF.nicK L. TAVAiifi. 

38, Tbumu eiroot, Choctbkm Ilitl, Manclicit<<r. 

WiixiAX Ward. — A biographical notice of 
William Wari, bile of 3p^ House, Derby, np- 
pcored in the Derby Mercury inimcdi.'itely after 
hie Jealb, Jon. l<>, 18ii>. I nm aoxioni for a 
icpff and aui fold that a file of the pitper is pre- 
svrred in the Briti&h Mdseom, 

FdruRRicK L. Tavab£. 

38, Tliosmi SfcTMt. Cheetham Hill, Manchester. 

DATVS op KftWSFdPBR CoMUUmCATIOMB. — 

■" ~ of your readen oblige me with a re- 

(a) a loDi; letter, printed in leaded typr, 

-^ r IBM and ISfiO, in the Timu, 

■■■;iyB and Revolvers in Georgia"? 

^ •'", Aa, to a airailar letter, between 

[ibe l "One More Unfnrlunate'T 

r(r) '^'- oiittt in the D<tHy Teh graph 

of " A Aian and Dog Fight " appear ? Neuo. 

*' Tnn LafeT Sijipkr."— Can any of your readers 

infomi me what f-.tiadatioii there is for the follow- 

ilo^ letfcod about Iteonardo'e fimioun picture of 

f " The Last Supper," and where it is to be found 

I V- — ."► ' Jt irt related that the great artist iiitro- 

uy aeccMorie", beautifully painteil, into 

. ..:o, and nniougiit the^e one especially 

J-tncted the attention and udiutration of all 

•ctaton, 10 mncb to that Leonardo, iodigniiDt 

at peopU kbould give eo macfa notice to a sub* 

I, erdiHAtc detail inat^^ of fixing their Raze on the 

Kt>f our Lord as the central cljeot of the 
, baatily rote and brushed out the object, 
lending tcsmI being etfaced, henceforth he 
id vith MtiafiutioD Chat the gazo of the 



spectators was fixed, aa he desired, upon the Lord. 
I am told that soma poem in rhyme exists record* 
ing this etory, which, however, J cannot find re- 
lated either by Mrs. Jameson or Messrs, Crowe and 
Cavalcaselle, nor by the translator of Leonardo's 
Life and Estay on Painting from the Italian. I 
shall bo much obliged for information on tbia 
subject. B. A. W. 

Olduizoit. — "Justice Oldmixon pnt me in 
the pariah stocks for a Togrant." What mnde 
Cdoning pitch on the name of Oldmixon for the 
justice in bii Nttdy Knifegrindcr f Was there 
any joatioe of the peace in or about Eton at that 
time of the Dame, or wu it merely a ielection from 
the wide moge of good old English names taken 
nt bnphnznrd I O. A. WaRO. 

Uaverttock Hill. 

Bookplates.— Can any one inform me of thd 
identity of the following? — (1) Arma, Per bend 
sinister or and arg., in chief a deui griffln hob" 
a palm branch ppr; in base, two bendlets 
Greet, a deml griffin, as in the arms, between t« 
elepbante* trunks, the dexter one per fess or andj 
so., and the sinister oer feu gn. and urg. loscrlp- 1 
tion, " Bibliotbecn ThebeBiana," and a monogrami 1 
D. A. T. 8. (i) A reliicious hooa^ " Domua 88. j 
Adelbaidia ct Caietani." (3) Arms^ Quarterly, 1 
and 4, quarterly (1 and 4, az., a tower arg. ; 2 und 
3, or, a fess sa.); 2 and 3, per pole vert and oz., on 
a pale between two uiulleta arg, a branch (I olive) 
ppr. Knsigned with a bishop's bat. Motto, ** Vir- 
tutia amore caso.'' H. Astlxt Williams. 

Cardiff. 

Rev. Sakcei. Mathrh, son of the Her, In- 
crease Mather, xrna born in Boston, Ma«Ba- 
cbusette, Aug. 28, 1674, and gradunted at 
Harvard Ooll«(;e in 169U. He went to Enulaiid 
in 1(388 with hin father, and became a minister 
(probably dis^entiny) at Witney, in Oxfordshire. 
He ia said to have baxl aevon d*ugbter)t, of wbnui 
six were married. I wiith to nacfirtnia the pUca 
and date of his death, and other facta concerning 
bis lifo in England. He was a younger brother of 
the Kev. Cotton Huiher, author of thp M<iiptalia 
and oiher works. J"HN VVahd OKair. 

18, Bomcrwt Street, Iloiloo, MaMaoLowtta, U.8. 

*'TaH PABLIAKCZfT CAl'TAIN IS OOINO TO SB 

KINO." — A lady, whose parents were murri«d ia 
1 7 15, knew a song in which oocurred the following 
lines : — 

" I heard a Httle bird sing 
That ibc Pirliatuent Captain Is goInR to bo King." 

The allusion ia clearly to Cromwell. Can any of 
your readers tell me where it may be seen in fuU 7 

Akoh. 

A» Easters Kiso's Estimate of a Etrno- 
PEA^ Market.— Con any of ^oat ie»A.wi t^vt. i 



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|e»> S, 1. Am. 13. *^, 




me bo a passage in Herodotus, which I veil remem- 
ber, but c:tnQOt Had by the help of aaj iadex ? 
BouieBs^tera king (the KiojE of PersK, I auppow), 
beinj; told that the Greeks hold weekly markets, 
replies that " ho do» not think nmoh of a people 
who meet week bj week to coz*a and cheat each 
other." E. Wauord, M.A. 

2, Uydo Park Miniioiu, N.W. 

TEMursosiANA,— Looking CTsiiftlly over Elaine, 
the followiaj; two pautiges struck me aa not being 
qaite correct : — 

" King, <!uVe, o»rl. 
Count, baron— wboni he buiuIo bo overthrsw," 
"Bir Lanncolat'ii axnre lioni, crowned with gold, 
Kktup in tbo OeM." 

In the former possago, is not count a tiatology, 
nnd are not both oonnt and baron anachroniams? 
In the latter paasAfje, the lions ui described couM 
not be in any " field," on tbo metal upon metal, 
tincture upon tincture, principle. Thov would do 
ns Hupportera, of course. Of. Lord FalkUnd'a and 
Lord Ferenhum's atniater snpportera. 

AllCUAEL FXRRAR. 
Hull, In'lia. 

SIR ROBERT BOOTH, CtllEF JUSTICE OP THE 

COURT OP KING'S IlENCII, IRELAND. 

(6* S. X. 27.) 

The accoQDts of thla notable LancoBhire person 
are neither ample nor satisfactory. Cf. hSoslry 
Familif MtvioitM, p. 36 ; Oastrell'e ,Vo(i(w. C*«- 
triennM, i\. D-1 ; Liber Muuerutn rMblUnnim 
Hibtm.; Henrr Newoome's Diary and Auto- 
biography, pauim ; Booker'a Histonj of BlaeUey, 
p. S6; ManchisUr Foundationt, v. H5. 

Robert Booth is aasooiated with Maocbester 
and Sal ford by birth, breeding, burial, and bene- 
factions. He was baptixed at the Collegiate 
Church, Manchester, *July 3, 162C. Ilta father 
baring died when he was a boy, his education 
derolred upon his mother (a daughter of Oswald 
Motley, ^q., of Ancoata, Manchester), who 
August 8, 1637, was remarried, at Stockport, 
Cheshire, to the Rev. Thomas Case. Case had 
been introduced into Lancashire by Heyrioke, 
Warden of the Collegiate Church, and the Booth 
family presented him to their newly erected chapel 
in Salford. His influence upon his ntepaon's career 
was Tery marked. Dr. Jacouib nilatca that Case 
bad no children of bis own, but thut bo wsa as 
tender over hie wife's children and as alfoctiooate 
as if they had been his own: " His love to thera 
and can of them was aearoe lu be pEtralleU'd, sare 
DOl lo b« excelled. And how he pmy'd for them, 
iDstruMed tfaeoi, ua'd all meanii fi>r their Spiritual 
Oood, I hope they will never forget " {p. 51). 

tyjtjU /•»$ »i tao Manchester Grammar School, 



Booth was entered at Graj's Ion, February 18, 
1641 2,l>tting deitcribed a« son of Robert Booth, 
of Salford, gentlemiin. fie entered St John's 
College. Cimbridge, as a fellow - commoner 
Sept. 20, 1611, aged eighteen, described as soa 
of Robert Booth, gent, deceased, of Maacheater; 
bred at Manchester under Mr. Bridesake, his 
tutor and surety being Mr. Creawtck (Jdm.. 8t, 
John's, ed. by Mayor. pL i. p. (JO). Henry New- 
come, afterwards of Manohester, who was admitted 
at St John's the aame year, says It was then ta 
the very beat of the wars, and that only nina 
students were admitted that year into that great 
college. 

Booth was called to the bu on November S6, 
1010. Meanwhile Mr. C^e, who was appointed 
Rector of Stockport in July, l&ib, had eaUblished 
himself as pastor of St. Mary Magdalen in Milk 
Street, having been induced to go up to the 
metropolis with some persons of quality from 
LaDcaihirc and Cheshire, who were urgent for him 
to go. In the society which the future jadge would 
meet with under his mother's roof there would 
frequently be many of the stanchest adhereats 
to the Piirlinmentary party. There is apparently 
nothing lo show how Booth bore himself in the 
civil troubles ; bat the absence of his name from 
ooDtemporary annals and other reoords implies 
that he kept aloof from public life, lo this re- 
spect he strikingly contraata with his stepfatber, 
who, as a popular preacher and a very prominent 
member of the Assembly of Divines, was laid hold 
of by Butler for a Hudibrsstic rhyme which has 
immortalized him. Amongst the Ijcgh MS.S. at 
Lyme Hall are some letters from Robert Booth's 
pen, dated Fobruary, 1G5»'60, which show that 
he was very keenly watching events. He describe!, 
amongst other matters, the rejoicings in London 
conseq^uent on the accord between the soldiers 
and the City ; and he takes off the industrious 
Liwyer Prynne, whom he saw " with a basket- 
hilt sword," 

The Curtc Papers in the Bodleian IXhruj giro 
the date of Booth'n (irst togal promotion. He was 
recommended to the kiug l>y Sir Manrice Eustace, 
Chanoellor of the Realm of Ireland. AosordiDgl 
a royal letter, daUd Whitehall, Dec. 1, lOi 
afterwards enrolled in Otianc«ry in Ireland, oo 
inondiDg *'the learnintf and sufflciencie of Hub 
Booth, Eiq., aod his faitbfnlness to US," orderi 
letters patent to bo made out grafting him ** the 
place or office of third Ju^ge in nur (>ourt of 
Comninn Pleas in Ireland " iluring pleuMUro 
fvol, xli. No. 103 ; and Thirty'iecond H^^t. /»7'. 
Ktf^tr, p, Sii2), This promotion fairly m 
the king bestowed it hv way of reward 
and it olno show 
of his stepfather 
log lo Maui.b- - 
•luaiutanoo ^^ 



ice, 
reJ^H 




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* 



TM wting Qfl one of the feofTccfl of tha Mtneheatar 
GruDinar Sobool. Kewcome menlioni htm on 
Sept. 3. lOfll : "Mr. Caw desmofi to keep a 
privBte dhy in the behalf of Judge Booth, who 
*u now exceeding wetk in (reland, it ms kept 
in ihe ohnmber I studied to ; and we bad aboat 
RXty at it, all the chief ia the towo." Again, 
Sitnpday, April 2G, 1662 : "W'n in ye market 
placa^ I mat ladse Bi^oth, who li perfeotlj re- 
oorered. A very graoioui retiime to prayer. 
Se« Septr. last" In July the judge waa attending 
the inisei at Longford. On NoTf-mbi<r IS he waa 
made "uQcieDt" of Gmy'a Inn. On "8th March, 
I663,'*he waaat the assizes at Nau, ca Kildare. 
In June ho waa at Kilkenny assiz^a. On Aug. 19, 
1684. be got a pasi to take six horses into Ire- 
land. 

On Sept. 20, 1663, Newoomo heird of the death 
of "yong Mr. Booth," who raiy be the judge's 
own eon ; and if so, it would, as we Bhall see, 
place the date of faia first marriatije in the year 
16&I, or thereabouts. This sod doee not appear 
in the genealogiee of the family, bat he is intra- 
doced witJi some interesttn;; psrticulars in one of 
tha retigiooa treatises of Thomis C^e. When 
in 1670 Case published a qii.irto volume called 
Afoiml Pitgah, othcrwiae " Words of Ojinfort 
OTcr tha Death of our Gntious Relations," he 
dedtcftted it ''to tlia nonnarable and hts muoh 
Hooourvd Son-in-law, Sr. Robert Booth, Knight, 
Lord Chief Justice of the Common Pleas in Ire- 
lud.* He uja that the meditations were 



c-_. ;_._ , J r - 



'HvrrtioK to your »nJ my toiTpw, 

h of tlmt Kx<;«rll6nt CttiU 50ur 

"'I't.' but h\» Precioui Motber'i 

, fvr iIk' t>ioti({bt bini forth, not with tli* haunt- 

IJjut witli the ioit of lt«r own l,if* ; liti ffirlk wu 

aiA / fn.iii wliicti Tery monient or time, yo'i were 

1 to Cuncrc'lit hii Ktiuftilion to liii tender Oraitd- 

your |it.>u» ^VoiA/r [Mr». Cwe], rtiJ my Self; 

fitutituui tlinn wliicb ther« could noihirtfi: bare be«a 

1 tii-n gafifi to 11^ in tlip world : 1 am iuro we vroro m 

of it &i of our own Lxvtt ; yea Tarily uur l.iv4$ 

\ up in, tk* tJhUd't Life. He wii« in>lre'I .V<i(«ur 

a Dtflectihtc I'hU-l in wtiom ^Vd/Mre and 

•d to beat a itn/e wbieh thouM ^-kcaI in lior 

hip : and a« he t^nw to u^c bo tie ttrow in 

fdupo»ition,%nA in alt ^Vufdiof tnd Moral 

nU or which hii Arje wm c^pMt [{••ror* 

Eloaten y««nald Ood lOBtcti't him out vf our 
m, and rtioored him into an Higher Fvrm." 

Oase addi that the deaths of hia reUtivei had 

^retarded tbe publication of the volume. This is 

"Your Faithful and most Affiwtionate 

Pather-io-law. Thomas Case." ilerc. then, ia a 

«d of the deaLb of the judge's 6rst wif«, called 

he F^iY. J. Booker the danghter of Spenoer 

•atne treatise gtvefl particulars of another 
oked member of tbe Booth family. A nccond 
tion, "To my Worthy Son-in-L:iW, William 
Si^ww, Dr. in Phytick and to Mrls. Hawea hia 




vertnous Ooosort,** explains that these religiootj 
mediCationa. *' conceived upon the death of you ^ 
hopefal Nephew, the only Son of your Elder 
Brother, Sir RoHert Bi)otb, now in Ireland," had 
been prevented from being published by reanon of 
those distempers which had ever sinoe pursue ' 
him (Case) incesssntly, but they now appeared^ 
" when our sorrow? are doubled tn the death of 
your precious child Martin Hawes, your first- 
born." He dwells at length on the two children, 
who were brought up together: "Though there 
were some distmce of yean, yet there waa tha 
greatest pirity of persons observed between them, 
that though they were bat the Brother's and 
Slater's Sons, you could not (had they been to* 
getber) have distinguished them from natural 
Brethren, or Tynnea (rather) of the same btrth."'! 
We are alto told that they were so " stadiooa ia 
learning Catechisms," that they could give aa 
rational account of tliem aa if thoy had been oin> 
didates for tbe untTeriity. And it is added that 
many, both of the nobility and other*, in the 
parish of " Qiles'a in the Fields" (the purish of 
which Cue was lecturer and rector), oould (at 
that day) witness the statement 

The jadge'a aeoond wife, whom he also survived, 
waa a danghter of Sir Henry Oxeaden, of Deano, 
near Wingham, Kent ; and she is given as aeoond 
wife in Mr. Booker's pedigree, though Canon 
Raines's note implies that she waa the only wife. 
She died October 27, 1669, leaving four daughtere. 

Le Neve mentions (KnighU, pp. 217, S5B) the 
knighting of tbe judge May IS, lUBti; and amongst 
this herald's queries ia tbe memorandum, *' Qre, of < 
Sr. Antb. deaoe, the whole," t.f., the whole pedi- 
gree, to be obtained, i» it leema, from Sir Anthony 
Define. It was in 1669 that Sir Robert was pro- 
moted to the Chief Juitioeship of the Common 
Pleas in Ireland. The office of Lord Lieutenant 
was in Booth'a time in the h'tnds of the Duke of 
Ormonde and his eons, followed by the E^irl of 
Essex, and these years cDiuprlae Llie period of the 
"settlement" of Ireland, when the position of 
a judge or Privy Councillor was no Bioecure. 
Booth's last and highest promotion was in the 
year 1G79, when ho waa made Chief Justioe of 
the King's Bench. 

In tbe following year, being fifby-four yean of 
age, he made his wilU which ia in the Prerog. 
Oonrt Oant (65 North). The late Col. Chester, 
the accomplished gedealogtat, most kindly mode 
for me an abstmct of it in the year lfi'7, as follows. 
The instrument is dated Augn.it 2, 168*). Tiio 
testator describes himself as Sir Robert Booth, 
Knt., Chief Justice of H.M.'e Cjurt of Kiog'a 
Bfiucli in tbe kingdom of Ireland. He directs hia 
body to be buried in the place litely made in 
Salford Chapel, in EuglantL He bequeaths 

" all my Un'li in 8tr*Jbnllv, Croxtowne.and BillyhooVe. 
ID CO. Dablin, in Ireliuu, to my brother tiuoipbr^y 



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BooUi uid bin heirs male of liii Ikk!; ; rviuftindor to tnj 
riKht htin. To mj net^hew Robert Bfwth «ll rajr Waks. 
All ray plat«, jewels, rin^, j^o.. MiJ bll my kt^ dcir 
wifa'B )<u-&phcmalia, eqnAlly unong my iltftr dnu^tliteri. 
All otiicr real anJ n«rBoiiAl entnUt in IreUnd to my friendfl 
Sir R'J. Uevnell. KiU. tnd Bhrt., one o( tlifl .liutlees of 
tilt KittKt Bench there: Sir John Teniflt;, Kiit., H.M.H 
Solicitor General ; and Mr. ThomMCrtw ; anJ I nvpi'i"* 
ttiem exccut'jra tu truik %» to my taid ciiatc in IrDlantl. 
My landi, kc., in oo. L&ncoittr were cettled on my 
marria^a to go at my death to my daughterf. To luy 
dear molhcr Adq Caw, V't.; to my aUtcr navrp«, 50^; 
io my couria Edward ^loaley, 201 ; to my cousin William 
Crowtlier, sundry booki; to my daui;lit<jr Eliziil>ctb, 
1001., nhioh will bo due from tbo ciflcutonof Sir Hsnry 
Oxiadeaat bii d^ttb. I at,point cxecatorsaa tomy oitate 
In BnKland my father-in-law. Sir Henry Oxindon afore- 
aald, SirJamea Oxindcn Lii ion, and my uDote E'Jwar<l 
Aloilry. Kej. All tfas rcaiJoe eq[a«lly amooust my tnid 
ilaaRbtcra at twenty-one, or when married after the affeof 
wzteon. Tomy ancTcflEdwardandFrAncii Mf'fley.uidmy 
coiuio Oiwal! Motley. lOi)^., Iho lut^'mt whereof to bo 
for (hr bencGt of the rlerk and aexton of BaUord Chapel 
•forenid ; to poor of Sulford K<Of." 

Proved April 1/5, 1681, by th« iwid Sir H«nry 
Oxiadett, Knt. and It&rt., and Sir Jamea Oxin- 
dcn, Knt., power being reserred to the a&id 
Edwatd Mosley, Efq. 

Uear; Nfwcome. moit diligent in Koordiog the 
exits of his friend!!, notes the jadge's btiriHl on 
Wedneeday, Miirch 2, IG80/1, in these words, 
" Sir Hobcrt Booth buried ut SaUord this day. 
Mr. Byde preached on Is. Wii. 1," Booth's 
benefaction is duly recorded by Bishop G^trell : 
"Given by Sir Kob. Booth. L.C.J. of King's 
Bench, loot Int. to ye clerk," It is to be re- 
gretted that the detoila of the judge's ctreer are 
too few and too general to eoable as to nrrire at 
an accurate estimate of bis oharaoter. 

Tbo will of Sir Robert Booth formed the sub- 
ject of litigation sixteen years afterwards. Th>> 
complete records connected with this cue (Ex- 
ofacqaer Depo&itionB, Michaelmas term, Ko. -id ; 
Foriyfirti Hepi. Drp. Kfri-t-r, p. 151) would supply 
aome of the other detaila iii<)nired after, and 
would answer a qnestioa naked by Mit. Bookbii 
in " N. & Q.," S-"* 3. iii, 168. 

JoHjf £. Batlxt. 

StretforJ, Mancheiter. 



tzu 

1 
I 




SewkastV Ri.'cua (6"» S. ix. 440. BU ; x. 29). 
— The foUuvTing wiJI giro your correspondent Mr. 
MtjROAK an idea of the Talue of the iterjeant»' 
rings. I hare tjtken it from a truct On /As Anti- 
quihj and Dignity of (A« /)/j;r« of SfrjemUat- 
Law, by Kdward Wynne, Kaq., barriatpr-at-lnw 
(•on of Serjifnul Wynne). Under thn hemliot' 
** A General Acconnt'of the Expennes «if the Call " 

(vix, rcliittiig to the l';*II, '' " *■ 

Parker, Inner Temple ; Ti 

Ti-iiii.li- : Al.r.ili III Ou.ruT ' 
I 

IVyDQc, MidUio Temple; Kiohud lumper, iinya 



Inn ; Robert J. Kettleby, Middle Temple ; Vim. 
Haywftrd, Middle Temple ; fiainncl Price, Mid "" 
Temple; Tho§, Birnarditton. Middle Temple; ft 
Edward Bootle, Inner Tentple) is the foUomog ; 

"To the trlil'milTi f^r •i*ti;< of duty, incluilinn tl 
kin[t*M. ■■ ' ' W. 

•' K, I oarttaetled, W, Ub. id. 

"T^ .... - ■ -.•.., S(. :if. aj. 

"To the friiice vi ^Valct. in itt'U imil foihion, CI. 1 

" To the PiinccM nf Wal^a. dllt\ «/. ICi. 
" To the Duke and four I'rinceMti, it. each, joM 
faahiou, 201. 

"Tbo Urd Clianeollur. Lird President, T*or4 P 
Seal. Lord Great ChnmhirMn, Lord Snwnnl. Loi 
Chimbcrlain of the IT.iii'ch'.M, the three Cl.iefa »nd 
Maater of the Rolls, each had fourteen rii-gu, of la*. 
w' be»iile< foAhion. 

'■ To tbo two IJccretaries of State, Chancellor of tba 
Exchequer, Chanc>^Uor of the Dutchy, to the nine i>uti 
Judeet, each had fourtecD ringa, of ISi.Taluo in gold. 

•'To the Attorney General and SoIicitor-0 
twcWo Kinji's Council, to nineteen ancient 
to tbo thres Vrrtthonotari**, o the Mnater nf t 
Deiicb, to tbo Master of ;'■ 
tlitron, each baJ fourt.:-'- '■ 

" To the ColtK, each ^■. . > . "n wil 

a rtoit of 1^. value. 

" To Cii«tM nrerium of the Common Pleai aitd KioK'a 
Bcnob, to the Warden of llic Fleet, to tb-- ' ' -^ * 'Ii9 
Crttwn it) ChoTK:ery, each fourteen, of 8». » 

"To ilip Cliir-i-nrapher, to the Clerk of < 
to tbo lUbrr of the Etchcquefaftd Common i'lv;: "-• 

only one tiffictT. each li »il rjitrteen. of Oi. value, i; 

"To fifteen Philaxera, to four Bxli;cati, each .^u 
teen, 3«, 6d. value. 

"To the Stowud and CntnptraUer,each \l. 19f., wvl 
fashion, each I2«.. being euamclled. Both tot^vUivr, 
5i. &». 

" Tbe number of tinirs gWrn as of duty, crsat antl 
iniall, amounted to I,iOtf,AbiJ oaoie in all to. tbe evm of 

7^3^- . , . .. 

" Beside* what erery S<r! '^-- ' — ■ -ipon hiB 

priyatc account, and gave «.■.. <•( the 

Bur. Att'irci«», and ulbera of ■ iiu.iii«ier 

Uall, and upon ibeir rcsf<«ctiTo iirL-uiM, ni^itiii i:ama to 
more than all tbo rest of tJie cai>enK." 
The boolt itself which conlAins the ahov. 
tioued tract, wid from which I copied ib- 
is enlilled A Afu(^W/any, ■ >■ / 
TraeU, 17G5, by Edwani nd 
tlu) fiiUowing note on the nv t>.n, A m.vv cn^ 
ouly of this volume were primed to givt to t'ric; 
and none sold." Artuuh T. Wi«* 

The fdlKiwing ttxiract fffiTii the F*Oh W<;»ort5 
(hi Hijitoricai 3fa)r 

may l>c of some in'- "I 

the motto for t)> 



(Otf It, Mr. Ooai£ 
KmtT CoLB. 



•*aS.Ac«.l«,'M.1 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



1S3 



^ 



I r»memWr icadlag to the pt^ of • M*i|M«r 
or periodical, six or serea jeftn ago. tbot a Bvnbcr 
of scrTnnu' ring* wer* li«ing raMle iato coadl** 
Ktioln, I bcUore for Her Mnjestj the Qoera. Tliia 
infbnsAtJon ta ruber rapie, bat pouiblj it ntsj 
Mcvt M ft clue for lome ooe cIm to giro more par* 
tienbn. Jomr Laxx. 

37, Soathnick Street, Hyda P^tfc. W. 

PoDiow (ep* s. X. 6SX— 

" A egiBBM p««M(i btl«a^ to • i««iiihip. lordfhip, or 
TiDogn, kpd IhM* oa^t to be fwh k poand tn eTir^ 
paH'V V*" *i npiir by tbetn Mbo Iiafc uMd to doit 
>tiv' 'nd; Umi or«T«if;ht whcrenf «ml w«at cf 

itli Mdftewmnlmtbt Leet. where &fiy dcffcuU 

hereia U (>u&uh*bU." — Ftccd Jftcob'i Xaw Dieti^uarf, 

£. P. a 

The Aoytrarrf ^ hedgeirud is the officer in chArge 
of a poundj uid be la sppoioted by the orene«rB. 

C. K. P. 

Potiad- keeper u the proper name o( the officer 
in chftfya of ft pODod. At. Pereosey ami Wiocbct- 
wa he WM cftlfed the poand-driTer. See Indtz (o 
if ontctpoZ OfficUf p. 30, and the references there 
giTen. 0. F. R. a 

TTbe Ret. E. Mauball loppliei the nioe extnurt ■■ 
B. P. B.] 

pRiscKsa Pocaho:tta3 (fl* S. ix. 608 ; x. 3fl\ 
—After all, I am afraid it it far from oertaio thnl 
the EIwlo ptcLure erer hiio>; on thtso walls. The 
only Tact CtiTuarioK that supposition is that it be- 
looged to the Rolfee of Tutttngtoo before it passed 
into the Elwta family. X may odd that it is now 
in the poeaession of Mrs. Herbert Jone^ of ScuN 
tborpe Keotoxy, near Fakenham ; and I au autho- 
riied by her to say that the will ihow it to any 
one who comes to her with a proper iotroductioD. 
But if that portrait of Poofthontas nercr huog oo 
theae walls, nnotber picture, T^reoontiDg both the 

E'ncesa and her uon, whose descendantA founded 
ftcbam ttt Vir^inin, will «0on do ao. This, 
which in the pictnre referred to by Mr. Ellis (at 
the second reference), is now in tuo poesession of 
Mn. Stewart, of Heacham, and is as aoceuible to 
periooa interested in the princeas and her de> 
I icendanle u that at Soolthorpe. The Utter 
Htvprosents her in the Kngiixh ooort drees of the 
HmcJoJ. a« deecribed by Mra. Herbert Jones in 
■gxNffrin^Aam, PiuC tuid Frutnt, 1863, p. 301. 
Hvhe picture at Mra. Stewart's repretenta the prio- 
■ ceea in ao Amaiican Indian coatume, teated, with 
her aon standing on her tisht^ t.c, on the left of 
Iho piotnre. Her ftice ia full and (oa the heralda 
ny) regardanb I bava inspecled this picture 
•ITnal tJmca.ftDd with iocreaiin;; interest. The 
•xpireaaioa of tba faoe ia touch! Dt>* There does 
not Bppeitr to be any io!cri|>tion on the canraa, 
but I nave not yet seen it out of its frame. It 
^^voorabiy eoBtraate with the one at Soolthorpe in 
^peiog exoeedisgly nataml, wbereta the Elwia ptc- 



tR», Ikoogh laach better painted. \m a very 
aitiAeiil look ; Bsd, ao Ear aa I cu jadtc, tha two 
fisoea of the lady an net rrry mndi alike— aoaa 
might eay. not at atl ao, bat Iha g*C-np raakea a 
great difference ; end the hair parted in the 
middle, without headdreas, imparta a feminioe^ 
and even malemal, expr«aion to the W\ft face in 
tba Bolfe picture, which ia absent from the other 
portrait. C M. I. 

Reaeham S^l, XorfoU. 

iHAXKa honx (6^ S. X. 106).— Wonld A. a K. 
greatly oblips one who much deiim to form a 
similar collection to his own by acndiog a liat of 
tbe worfci oo the Tbamea in hit poueasioo, or 
known to him to exist, through the Editor of 
'^N.iQ/to D. 

If A. S. K. likes to send me hia liat, I dar« aay 

I &io add to it ; but it would be labour in Tain to 
write down a number of tillea without knowing 
what hia litt of a hundred coosista of. 

a A. WAta 
Uaverateok BiU. 

RoxArr (6^ & iv. 513; tx. 304, S04).— Gipete 

know nothing of their biatory. and ihvre i> oo eTi- 
deoceof their Eftypttaa origin, whilst ihereare many 
reasons for aaaigniog them an Aaiatic detceot. Thal^ 
they bare borrowed words from tbe laDgaagea 
the countries through which they have paaaed, and 
from those of the countries where they are for the 
time beinj; located, ia quite truo. Their \ 
(ooe dialect cootaios about 3,600 words} is 
upon Hindi, Ueoc^W, Persian, and other Orient 
languagea. Ma. FaSTOH aaya the ^yptiao orii^ 
of uia people u not inoonaiBtent with the fact that 
their dialect cootaina Saoakrit worda. It appenra 
to my mind to he very incbnaiUenL Ag.iiu, yonc 
corretpondent tella us that, aare aome r«lioa of ihtj 
Coptic heard io the tenta of the gipaiea, the Egyp- 
tian ia a loti language. Perhapa he ia unacquainted 
with tbe dictionaries of Coptic, Bashmnric, and 
Sahidic by Pejrron, Parthey, and Tuttam. Be- 
fore coming to noy conclaaion as to tbe origin of 
the gipeiea and of their dialects, it mitrhl bo ai . 
well to consult tbe works of Pott, GreltiuanQ, Baa-1 
drimoDt, Kogalnitschan, PawpAti, Mikloaich, Vail- 
lant, Possart, Predart, Liebich, Uicbardson, Irvine, 
Lcland, Harriot, and Smart and Crofton. 

K. S. CuAnxocE. 

FiTznAnDiNw Cre«t (fi"" S. ix. 489 ; x. 64). — 
Tlie be.%t authority un the armoriid bearing of the 
Berkeley's is Smyth, who^ io his Livti of tht 
Barkdejft, which hM just been printed for the 
members of the Bristol nod Glouoesterahire 
Archsologicnl Society, gives descriptions of iha 
seals of anna used by all the lords of Berkeley 
down to his own tiiuo, a.d. 1613, with drnwiof^s 
of moat of them. Tbe scries is well worth study- 
ing, M it ahows bow armorial bearings were at first 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



gnuiually a«umed, ud how crests, Bupportera. and 
Utnottoes were adopted nad Taried id tiaccessiTe 
f genontioDfl of the Hnmo fiiniily. It also illustrates 
' the nse of armorial Bonis. Your cnrrespoodenta 
appear to refer to tbe PluhardiDgs and Ucrkele^rs 
OS if tbey were two diatiocl families. No fftmilj 
hrvs, bovever, used tbe former oa a dlstinctiva 
name. Robert Fitzhardiag's bod and Bacc«a»or 
Maurice waa at fir.it styled Maurice Fitz-Rob«rt, 
but aft«r tbe completion of Berkeley O^utle and 
his takioj! up bta residence tbere, bo was called 
Maorioe de Berkeley, wbich name has ever since 
been Ibnt of bis descendants. Perhaps, however^ 
it is intended to distingaish between the descen- 
dants of Eobert Fitzhanliog and the older family 
of the Berkeleya of Dursley, Coberley, and Kinf^- 
wood, which became extinct in 13B2. The arms 
of tbe latter were Arg., a fess between three 
martlets sa. Tbe mitre was first used u a crest | 
by tbe Berkeleys of Berkeley Castle about tbe 
iiiiJdle of tbe fourteenth century, but was not at 
fint charged with the family arms. It was most 
probably aiiopted to indicate tbe derotion to Holy 
Church for which the Berkcloys in the Middle 
Af{ea were reuatkable, as is shown by tbe long 
list of their benefactions to, and endowments of, 
reliKious and moniuitic foundations. Aa Bishop 
Berkeley died in 1753, It is dear that there can 
be DO reference to him in the present matter, 

J. H. CooKe, F.3.A. 

Ok (6"" S. ix. 428; 1. 13).— There is no difficulty 
about this termination : (> in Danish and Swediish 
stands for island. Karfto isCburles's I^lAod; Sctndo 
is Sand Island; Uto, Outer Island. This converts 
into <u or ey as a terminal to Jersey, Guern- 
ley, and Alderney, and in Cautalcu. Holm 
is also an island ; Isaac Taylor suys " a river 
island," as La Houlme, near Rouen, but I do 
not think it i<i strictly so. C. A. Ward. 

ilKverstock HilL 

Clin Daniib colonir-iition explain Martln-hof, 
Trentis-Ao^, and Morl«-Ao«, in North Devon, or 
the Hue at Plymouth ? These are all high places 
by tlie »a. In Cornwall there are Lo-os, Pcr- 
no&ihul o<, OuDwill-M, and others; and many 
Coroish place-names end in o. 

0. B. LoxosTarr. 

Isaac Taylor, p. 333, cd. 1875, of his Wordi 
and Pl'tetf, says Oc means an island, nnd is 
Teutonic. M.AOxon. 

Id Norfolk we have CarltoD ForeAa«, HadilJ»ros, 
Hoe, LinipenAo<, nnd Stanftiw; ahn Ashiimn- 
han^h, hclaugh, and BylaugK Th(-*a but tlirce ore 
proDoanced as in tbe preceding terminations. 

Wm. Vihoekt. 

Bellf Vuc Rise, Norwich. 

"Sal it ajLLirA" (6^ Q, ix. 428, &U)^To 
what bai been atrwMf oooimaiui»k«dl on this 




subject may be added the following passiue, from 
" Tht Popttk Kingthmtt Eoglysihed by Barnabe 

Oooge," 1&70:— 

" A numlwr great of crosics first, he mmke« md liutllye, ^m 
He blowes out fr)>riiclit«, com managing them with ^H 

cruell wonls tu flye. ^H 

Tbe Toote bi^leeaes tlis iafkotes yoDK, with tprfchtes 

to bo pnufBt, 
Whom TnTthfuH chrutisn peo[ila here be^at, and 

I'ttmnU bleit, 
Theit i)irust«B ho uUt into thsir mcath, snadyatlng all 

the while, 
Tbe infAntefl tender eyes, and enr^t, with sUncltiog 

ipittlo Tile." P. 31, reprint ISSO. 

F. 0. BiKKBcec TXUBT. 

Soi-oMOH PaifST (6*" 8. i. 27).— He was con- 
cerned na legal adviser in tbe ofTiirs of many 
Huguenot refugeeii, and his name Is frequently 
fouud among the witneM« to their will*. Appa- 
rently he resided in New Hroud Street, lie 
married the daughter of a wealthy jeweller, Denis 
Cbivac, who, as the Omtlemin* iVfijuriae tells 
tiB, died Dec. 9, 1738, worth 70,iiO<)l,; and he 
himnelf was dead in December, 1762. The latter foot 
I gleaned from pnper^ which had belonged to another 
trusted adviser of the refugees, the Rev. Israel 
Anthony Aufrere, with whom he had acted as 
co-executor. Any ioformalioo H. W. F. H. may 
already pouess— the exact date of bis death, for 
instance, or whether he left issue— would be very „ 
acoepinble. H. W. ^ 

13, Half Uoon Street, W. ^H 

Date of Piibasb (fl"" S. ix. 3^)9; i. 15).— No 
example or quotation is given by Miss ButiK tot^—. 
"Meine arme Mutter." It may be a "common "^^H 



phrase, bnt in tbe RiJutUttU at Bono Schiller 
wrote upon his mother'a grave only the terse and 
tender apostrophe. " ! meine Mutter." 

W. F. HoDsox. 
Temple Ewtlt, Dover. 

" Don Jdas," Ca!«to XV. Stahxa 60 ffl»* S. 
ix. 610; X. 60, 70).— Asia Murray's "new edi- 
tioo" {1&56) the line ruu presumably as Byrnit, 
wrote it, how is it that in the Pearl Edition (1967,^ 
the line reads thus 1 — 

" ' A I'EfpfcgnoIs.' ' Umb»Ue; and ' solpicon.* '* 
I ask tbe question because Mr. Murray wiy, aoe 
thii edition, "bebM taken (he piiios locolUte cai 
fnlly the text by the oricioid MS-S. in Lord Byrooll 
writing, and lias thus been able to discover and 
expunge numerous errors from which no oth( 
edition is free." I think it is perfectly clear ho ^ 
Uyron inttndtd to word the Unn, and that if hiP 
wrote It as above il w.-ts nothing more thau a 
Utpttui cnUvii, Mr. Murray alone can say it the 



4 



h^^ 



Utytut be in the origioal MS. 

I bnvii" not seen Mnrrav 
Byttm'n i'oriicwi HVnU ( 1 
G. F. R. R In Fredarick 



FkbDC BDt.Si 



Wiuoti's ediCii 




r 



0* 8. X. Aoo. 14, 'Si) 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



185 






(Byna) of the " Cbandos Poeti," pabli«he<l eiroa 
I86S, we bare :— 

" Tbcn Ihnrt mi God knowi wlikt •'! T^l UtmantU, 
A rK$pa;;noU, timhaUt, and jriZ/MWR," &«., 

wbiob l«aTea us very much where we were before, 
Mid sfaova us that Harray's correction pused an- 
hndfld. En rtvctnche, I find in my American 
•dttioo of Th$ Worki vf Lord Byron, in Vtru 
m/td /VflM, the following iogeoioii* oonipromise: — 
**Tben tliere wu Uod koowi wli»t ' k rAitemandf,' 
'A rEUpAEQoU*,' ' titnbftlle,' Kud ' Mlpiole.'" 
Hie tt^pUolt is charminK, ftod vhymes perforce 
with *'upon the whole," in tbe fourth line of the 
•tsDza. It matter") " not a Jot "^ that there i» no 
■oeb word, I dn not know whether Mk Dixon 
u jiukiBfld in sayioif that 4ri/;;t<;on in a Spfmiob 
dltb. £rerjthin<; turns on that. Littrd says : 
" iSalpicony «.m., Met« composu de loutca Bortea de 
VtAodH et de lo^umea." An olla podrult, in short. 

UlCUARD EduCCUBS. 

" A " AS A War Car (6»* S. ir. 30R ; i. 5fl). 
— Probably the reason why no more ozamplea are 
giren in tbe New Dictionary may be tbnt tbey are 
M numerous that every one may be rupposed to 
be aoquaiDted with them. I hare pleasure in 
pototing one out to Miss Pjeacocx : — 

** NtWH were broajtht to him that hI ibe taunes and 
al tb« CoOtrvy »Jtaceot wu in a great rore, and mide 
Hen and lan^ >OD|re«, crijrtf kins Htnr^. kyng lUnry, 
* Wanrycki', a Warwreke."— Uall's Ckromicli, Itj&O. 
AL IV. f. 10 Tirao. 

Blott likely both Orafton and Holinshed copied 
this pikAsaf^e, after their usual manner, but I bare 
no time to refer R. B. 

Boflton, Lincolniliire. 

In Warkworth's (%ronw/i o/fA* First TKirUm 
yMr$ of tJu Hngn of Bdxoard J]'., printed for 
theOaniden Society, 4Lo. Lend. IS39, mention is 
made of this cry liaTtofc been uicd by fidwiurd 
himieU frfCer his lauding in Yorkahtre. 1471: 
"Afore ftUe peple, he cryed, 'A! Kynge Uerry ! 
A I Kyngo and Prynce Edirarde ! ' " (p. 14). 

TbomtoD n«ath. 

WtLLiAU BitiDRttiDOB (€»* S. ix. 428).— lu a 
gnMtogiml tree of n fiimily of the name of Robin- 
■on of Cheshunt, Oiiauncy (vol. t. p. A88, ed. 
1626) states thit Peter Robinson married Anne, 
danghterofThomavMantoDiOf London, merchiinl, 
hy tiibyl, aiBter and co-heir of William Bradhridgt^, 
fiuhop uf Kxeter. This may intcreit Pai.Aoirs. 

M.A.0X0O. 

fivrrn'fl "Pict. ot Git aso Ro«, Dtoon. and 
Mtthouwt" (0* 8. ix. 4Sfi ; X, 3.'.).— If the cor- 
m^adente critioiring Bmith't IhcUonnty for the 
omtnioa of numes wish to increase the list, they 
can refer to Heaiod's 77l«oi;onia, tt, £43 §qq. ; 
Homer'a Hind, xriil. 40 #^. ; and Vergil's Gwrgi^, 



ir. 335 47. To those who ask for tbe reason of 
omission, the answer ii«, these are " fancy" names. 
If a clasiiciil phriutu for this description is wanted, 
i( is supplied bv the Scholiast on 72.. h.«., who 
aays : itrreoi' 5t, u? uitl/xaTa Tai? f^jjpntfriv 
''Ojit}fioi TrAarret, Kada rou koI 'Hfriofioi, nVo 
Tcai- ffi'/i/Je/iijfcoroiv tJ aAAbtf ivOttafxn-fii i'mv tJ 
T« 0a\.d(TfJ~y Kal Tiji (TTOil^cnj* Toi" v^arot. I pr» 
suoie that the editor thought that merely tiotitioui 
poetical, and descriptive n.'vmea were property 
be relegated to a classical lexicon. So in Lidde 
and Soolb there is, t.g., "Kw*o6(i>a/. ' w.ive- 
receirer,' a Nereid: //., Hes." But there is not 
commonly in this lexicon a notice of proper oumes; 
e, g., Alexander is only entered in the verbal forms, 
as dAc^fit'^/it^to, derived from the name, or the 
adjectival form, applied to Paria. MiUimloit is not 
there at all, nor ThemiatoclBS. En. Maubmall. 

Nr.w VKnns (6'* 8. ii . 460).— I am not going 
to try to settle ibe quo&tion started by Mtu Wal- 
PORD. I believe it to be beyond the power of 
Prof. Skeat or any other aoholar or grammarian to 
settle what subitantire, or even adjective, shall 
be tamed into n verb when the raany-mouthed 
beast take* it into its head to make one. C7mptr«d^| 
in tbe sense of a lanncb that carriee the ampire, \%\ 
nssuTodly not a good coinage. But is there much I 
danger of ita going beyond tbe boating slang <^* 
the liver f I think not. Cricket has ita slan^;; 
football has its sinog ; and lawn tennis baa its 
genteel slang. But frenh sUng coming up destroyt 
old slang, and it is this we most look to, and' 
not to gmramarianq, to rid the dictionaries of the 
jurgon that " ncwcth every day." Are there not, 
however, barbarous verba in all languages } uAA' 
l}tiyixKvytv ai'ror? o Ao(Js, but the people rangoi- 
fied them, to make great or tmhiggm, if we nmy 
invent an Eoglinh parallel as ugly. After all, use is 
nearly everything. C. A. WarO. 

lUveritock Hill. 

FoKTENBLLK {6** S. ix. 467).— 

"A story it told by Qrimm of a visitor arriving al 
Fcrnajr, and bolof; |[rectfd hy- tbe pfttri&rcli with the 
newi that be would fiud hii hoit a ohantred man. ' One 
irrnwa a higot in one's old age ; I have a habit of htiving 
■ttitte Tiious work road to ois when I lit ilown at table.* 
And, in fact, some one t>ei[sn ti renl a pcrmoD of Alav 
•dloii, Voltaira throwing in exclanutions on tbe brauty, 
el<X)uence, Imaginktlon of the preacher, f^oddftnly, 
after three or T-^ur i>aaeB, lie culled out, ' Off with Mas- 
eillon I ' and Uuncb'-d forth dufiDj; the rfat of tbe meat 
witb bti usual ViTve and raociful extravafanco of 
imajfitiatioQ.'— .Murlcy's Voiiain, 1S7'J> p. 331. 

HxNRT Q. Horc 

Prcegrave Road, N. 

Tub World caeATKn Maktit 25 (fi** S. ix. 365, 
497; X. 53).— Not only did oar forefathers know 
tbe exact day on which tbe world was created, but 
they also knew (or thoaght they did) the place 
where Adam wu nude, the time be entered 



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gtrden of Pandlie, bow looft ba wiu there, and 
tbe rerj hoar the fatal apple was eaten : — 

"AduQ fr«a mads of eKhe* In y fotde of Damuke 
tba .ti. dkjr of y world k bn>ugbtti into p&radyM/lc 
srnncd ;* lamB dij k wab put out after myddnjr.'' — 
IJI^iq'b Po/yci'oiiiVoii, IWll, f. 01. 

" Ere ^t ilio Imt daio will rxceed nil vromen ia tonruw 
&uJ tniicrio, never camo upon thf^ w-irM rt mof inwr- 
Nblo and forrowfal wouian lliftti r . ' \.vr. that for 
her wkfl WW were til to die. TIj ■ ter women 

way bold Ibcur peace aud iW]) ili Liforo Hn. 

8am affirm (lald Luther) that Cttm wiu a^iiiceiTCil before 
U)« proiDiM of the seed that ■hould erun\\ tbo tiorpcnta 
beM, hat itxXd Lnther) I am peraundcd tliat Uie pro- 
mlMiru ina4e not ful) half a daio after llie fiill. For 
they entred toto tbe Garden aboat tbe hour nt iioondaie, 
and haTiDE appolitea to tat, ibcc tcfolc deli^bt in tba 
Apple, tbeo, about two of tlto olook (accordinij ti] our 
aocompt) wu tbo fall."— Lulber'i CoIIw/hui. I0&2, 
p. 301. 

K, R. 

*'B07., Tni COCKXKY PHRNOMKKOS" {6'" 8. IX. 

4S8: X. QS). — It woqU be iutereslinf; as well as 
amusing to oolleot the contemporaoeoaa oriticiKma 
on tbe earliest productions of Boz, and bia ood* 
teniptDOQs deai^rnatioD as n "cfwkney" author. 
Thus, in Tkt Mirrw, April IG, 1836, there la a 
review of tbe Skelehes by Ilos, with xeverul extnicts 
therefroDi. The critic nays : — 

"We think tUcm cither too nomcrouB. or too erery- 
dayt*h ; they w&nt rcli^r, and tbeir incidenta bi:>rJcr too 
oloutly on tbe commonplaco, so aa to belong to the 
aligbtaet luaffaiine writing, wbicb cnn only be aiJ to 
amuae without any hifhur effect. Thia Ji to lie regretted ; 
becuufo ikfllobes nicb nt Box can wrlto m»y b« pointed 
with a moral, and made the tehida of m>mt I'xccllent 
loatruction and improromcoC of tbo heart llcrc ia too 
loach coekuey vulgarity ; mad tbe iocidontfl laTOur too 
■trongly of low London life." 

A more recent critic has cjnicullj described the 
author of Pichcidi as the writer of '^ a comic 
middle-doss epic"; while Mr. 'VN*. D. flowolls haft 
pronounced Dickens nod Thackeray to be obsolete 
tuannerials, who could not \.>e Buffered at the pre- 
sent day, before the finer art of that new school 
which finds its "chief eiemplar" in Mr. IJenry 
James, inn. (ae* the Ccnfur^. November, 16B2). 
OfxdatJudwiu! Citthdkrt Bbdk. 

Tna Particlk "dk" nr StTRKAMxa (6*" S. ii. 
46d, 616).— There eon bo little doubt that np 
to tbo fourteenth century the nobiliary pjirticle 
"De" attached to n euroamo derived from a 
manor was a sure indication of the bearer's uoble 
birth; btit sine* that period it bos been asftomed 
in the moat fantastical manner, and in the direc- 
tories may 1m found Do Jooe?, Pe Smith, De 
Young (perhaps a comiption of De Joofl;b), De 
LonK, De lo Telle (for Doolittle), and Utely De 
Plan Nagen (for Plannagao). Zoosza. 

NoRKAHirns nwy proBUbly coniult the little 
hrO€kur* of which I appctid the title, La Parti- 

* Of mf tartb, I hare sonewbers rc*4* 




cuU Nobiiiairt, par Loots Vion (Pans, Denta^ 
It has no date, out it contiuns a document dai 
1672, so is posterior to that year. Tho aut 
bad sou$ prfue another work, Qii'«fton« ii< 
NobiUaire, but this I have not seen. There 
some papers oa this particle, &c,in Lc Hen 
d'ArmUt Paris, ISC3. See nlio La Parti 
Kobiltaire, par M. de Tardy, 1861. 

J. Woodward. 
MontrOBC, 

Ooe of the oowuoncsl methods, perfaap*, of em- 

filoying dc was in attaching it to the name of a 
ocaltty OS sign of fief or poaseBnion territorial. 
Once it became an indication of f^cntle birth, the 
narwHU would assume it. But admitting this to 
bo the moat general way in which de vrm used as 
an affix, tbero still must baro been many other 
wnya. Take, for instance, De Alau^rer and De 
tiu^rin. If, as Koruahvub says, they are both 
derired from Christian nnmex, then dc need only 
mean son of Ho-and-ao: GuiUaume (lili) do Mauger. 
Kren now I might say Malsys of Antwerp; that 
would only mean be was an iron-worker of Antwerp. 
There is thonamcofDoUDcDe,whichu!:C'3fnrmerly 
lo bo often written Atte Dene, but that did not 
mean that the place belonged to bioi. The Power 
family in Ireland hiui an ancestor Nicholas le 
Poor, summoned to PaHi.inient 137S. They wero 
Powers of Gurleon down to 1863, and then ab- 
surdly they got o royal licence to me the name 
De la Poer in lieu of Power, and now with tho 
new landlord system of Ireland they will loso 
both Power and power, and be Poor indeed. 
But it is a doubt whether Power meant uri},'in- 
ally any more than poor, like St, Peter lo 
Pour in the City. Why ebould lliero not be a 
family at Hautvilllers called MaisLre, as at Vnrk 
there might bo one called Master, and then a son 
might well bo called Jean do (It famille de) 
Maiatre 1 I do not see the least necessity for 
supposing that it mutt hare had h^ any more 
thau I should ossntne that Dee Fontaines was Lea 
Fontaines. It would puzxie one to say, without 
a good deal of family research, how Antoine 
Laurent de Jussieu got his name; in tbo Imperial 
OauUeer there is no sneb place ai Jusiien. Sb 
we suppose tho botanist's ancestor to have beel| 
great Dird<cat«ber and called I< jimcr, an old wa 
in connexion with birds f I tfo not dispute 
possibility; I only desire to show there is no 
in the cose. C. A. Ware 

llaTPratiick HtU. 

Your corrcepondcot NoRUAMiiDfl is surely 

error in aa«rtin;r '^ '^ ^" '■ 

were in naaient 

of tbe roil. 1l . . ■ «.. . ., .. . 

The fcu<t;il taw pivviiliug in , lli^ 

were uiauy and varied richts 

p«BiaDtfl woro to ft oeitAlD wtoai pTOprietotil 



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ft Urge pfttt of the soil, snbjcct to onerous rif^litfi 
of tho lords. It w&s tho opprcssiro naturo of these 
rights over Ibo property of the pensants which 
[lutened on the Revolution. Had the land be- 
loaged to the lorOs there woulii hnve been no room 
for the exeroUe of theie ancient rights. The e«*cnce 
of their exidleoce was that they were exerci)te«l hy 
one pnrty over the Unda of another. When the 
fendal law wna introduced there were many 
allodial proprietors in France, who were gradually 
"brought under tlio feudal law and retained their 
luida, DO longer free, but subject to that I.iw. 

WiLLlAlt WiCKUAir. 

I If NfiiiMAHNDS will examine Prof. Paulin Paria's 
\ De hi Partit\iU diU NobiliaiTe (Paris, Techcncr, 
186:2), pp. 34, I think he will obtain the infuruia- 
tioa he dexires. ThiA essay was delivered at the 
meeting; of the Academy of Keiuis, July 31, 1861, 
but is too lengthy (o be inserted here. 

Albert K. Frkt. 
Astor Library. N.Y. 

TaAJcsLATiONS or Joskphus (0^* S. x, CJ>).— I 
bAve to my possession u fine editiun of Muynard'a 
Jotepkut (^126 15 iu. by 10 In.), publinhed by sab- 
Bcnption by 0. Cooke, 17, Paiernoater Row. It 
Contaioa sixty beautiful eogravings taken from 
original drawing of MessriL Melz, Corbould, T. 
TVeat, and others, and ftniong them is n plan of 
the city of JcrnialetOf " with very full and fanciful 
details/' IGin. by 14 in. It aUo has full nnd 
copious indexes, further accounts nf the Jew?, &r. 
The royal licence nnd authority fur the printing 
nnd pnblishint; of the work was granted iu the 
leigo of George III. and signed Sydney, but no 
date is fixed to any part of the publication. Cun 
■ny of tho readers of "N. & Q." furot«h the year 
of pubUcAtion ? V. B. Kedstoke, 

Woodbrid({L>, 

[The work wni publiilied in nnmbsra about 1700.] 

Robert Traill, D.D., translated the JewUh War 
of Plavtus Josephus, and it was edited in 2 Tola, by 
Isnac Taylor from 1S4G to 1851. Tho Athmaiim 
pronounced it to bo very superior to Whiston's, 
but I do not think it hits n good index, if any. 
T^ylor'd notes would be likely to be good, but the 
work has, I believe, had little vogue. 

C. A. Ward. 

Earcrstock IIUI. 

HAWCE6TBnnio (C"* S. i. 49). — Tn Camden's 
Britannia there is au allusion to *' Hawcaster rigg 
00 BIsckmore, two miles north of Lcedes/' where 
I •'Mr. Thoresby describes a llonian pottery," 

Swallowfleld Park, Reading. 

I Arms or CiuLDLBaa FfiRNrn Kings (G"* S. x. 

1 46). — It certainly ia very unuaual that the dolphin 

' should be represented in connexion with the arms 

of a king of France. Still, I suppose the dauphl- 



n&tfl of Vicnnois was then vested in tho Crown, 
just as the principality of Wales and the ducbj 
of Cornwall (with its revenues) are in the sovereiga 
nutU the blrih of a Frtace of Wales. 

J. Woodward. 

FtrnsKY. Saint fC"' S. ix. 5(0 ; x. 73).— Thi« 
was probably the Fur»cy (referred to in Bede'a 
Ecd. Uist.t bk, iii, cb. xix.) who ubout the year 
()33 cauio from Ireland and founded a monastery 
amongst the East Angleii. He passed to France 
in C48, resigning bis monastery to Dicul, and 
died ut Poicou in 65U. Dicul subsequently bad a 
monastery at Boshnm in Sussex, and was there 
when St. Witfrich visited the county in 681 (Bede, 
bk. iv. ch. xiii.). FitBDKRicK E. Sawyer. 

DrightoD. 

The authority for Bt, Farsoy boine *'& name 
(tignilloant of the virtues wherewith no was on- 
dowed" is Soiithcy'a Vindicur Etdtt. An^lict 
p. 148. C. A. Waud. 

UiTcntoek Utll. 

lIiTHua, &c. (G"" 8. X. 48). — Tn liiswer to my 
eKteemvd friend, llio antiquary and poet, NottVAL 
CL.TMX, anent mitres, I have to say that not one 
Protestant bishop in England, Scotland, or Irel.tnd 
wore such upon his head since tho Re format ion. 
Mitten then descended from the cojiut to the four- 
wheeled chariot or signal cont of arui^. The crozier 
or pastonil staff also ceased in ecclesiastical n^e 
until recently, when not only prelates, but Uymoa 
generally, hare adopted this useful appurtenance. 
Your subscriber was the firitt ecclesiastic in the 
Episcopal Church of Scotland to wear at certain 
festivals both mitro and crook, as dt/ado cf« jure 
"Abbot of Susanna Rig. Willow Acre." 

J. F. S. Gordon. D.D, 

St. Andrews, Qlasgow, 

In tho Annual RcgisttTf 1781 (p. 187), it is re- 
corded that " His Grace the Arcbbiabop of Oosbel, 
dressed in his full pontlGculs, with bis mitre on his 
head," officiated at the funeral of Mra. Mathew in 
Tipperary. The Roman Catholic nrcbbisbon woi 
present also. Edwahd H. AIarsrall, iVLA. 

Jlutingi. 

Mitres ceoaed to be used in the Church of Eng- 
land after the publication of tho second Book of 
Common Prayer of Edward VI. S. M, K. 

Eaban (6** S. X. to).— There is a family of this 
name residing at Uatcli Beauchnmp, Somersetshire. 

Edward Maxah. 

"With how uttlb wisdom tub world is 
aovRRNF.D " (3^ S. iii. 2S8) — The query as to the 
original authority for this saying np|)ears still un- 
answered, but wo are now all twenty-one years 
older, and perhaps wiser. Oddly enough, Chalmers, 
IBlfi, does not include Oxensliero. The Bicg. 
UnivmtUe, however, gives us the extct words, 




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[Ci^aX. Air«.3<l«'84. 



''Xeacis, mi fiti, qiiontilla pradentia liomioe<i ro- 
gftDtur," and aays the; occur id s letter written by 
the Cbnnc«llor to bti fon JohD, ihta yonog in di- 
plomncy. The [Hotf. OhUrnlt states that the cor- 
rwiMJndenco betwren thn two, 1642-9, has been 

Inibliahed Iiy tijurwell, but I cannot refer to it 
lero. The ^'^uie is now marked down, and ought 
to be bagged bjr some one with better wenponi 
than I have. A Mamcbrstbr Man. 

ScairABKsRAca (fi"* S. x. 2?). — There is a 
ritumi of The Ttctnty - fonrth oj Februanj in 
Messrs. Oostwick and Unrnsoo'i very uvefiil Out- 
lines of Gtrman ZAterxttur*. Curlyle, in his ewnj 
on Werner, sAys hebna"ziot toom to speak "of 
thia Irngedy, but refeni to M.idiinie de Staul's 
criticisms. Edward H. Makbuall, M.A. 

The Library, Clkruniuot, n«ttini;*. 

Werner'* Twtnty fourth o/ Ftbrtianj was trans- 
lated by the Rev, E. Kiley, and published in 18-14 
bj H. Iluabes, of 15, St iUrtin-le- Grand, London. 

G. F. K. B. 

BocncR OP Stort Wasted (G** 8. Till 368 ; 
ijL 497; X. 63).— 

" It ii tmo tliikt ilie pre.it miii-ilty of drcamtltomtlit 
hiub^eri provcJ, e.ff.. by lli««pcriencfor I-iri HolUnd. 
wliu fell utloop whon liittiniof; to ftouiolioily rcKJi«K> had 
tt long ilr«in, and jot awokv in timr to hc»r the Cunclu- 
•ion of tb© icntcncc of wliich lie rcinfrabcn^ the brjrio- 
Jung.^'—EHryctopo'tia Ui-ihtnnictM, s ». " Drewu." 

Kdwabd U. Marsh au., M.A. 
ElMtings. 

The real source of the several stories and of tbe 
exemplificalioos of Lord Brougham Is to be found 
in the process of unconsciou.i thought. This wai| 
firmt diBcovered by uiyself. but first published by 
Dr. Woi, Carpeoter, l'',R.S., under the title of 
unconscious cerebration. It uflbrda the cxplaoa* 
tton of dreams and many remarkable phenomena. 
The great number of ideas and impressions in an 
indiTidual, and the rapidity of the operations of 
Ihoujjht, rejilljf unconscious, but made known to wa 
in the conncious result, are roar?ellou9 in their 
character, and hafc received scanty elucidation. 

Utde Clarki. 

Prksdkrgast : Pmdebqast (6** .S. viiL 20, 
139, 335). — Lewis derires bis information from 
Ijowcr's PatronifmiC'i liriUtnnica, Edmunds, in 
Trnra of Uniitry in th« Name* of Placa^ obttiion 
the name from preru tree ; rfint, water ; and gient, 
an inn or lodging-pbco. Hence Pceudcrgast = tbe 
inn by the tree near the water. 

. . ... Ar-nwT R. FsJir. 

Astor Ultrary. N.Y. 

A HCNDRRD YtARS RKTWRKH mi MAnRrAOR 

or A KATnrp. AND niB Son (6^ 8. ix. ifi.'i),— lo 
fl'*' ' f'Ty of (he Maudes there uucum an 

*P" en the marriages of a fAlberand a 

•po tiSiilxt ifi einmiDitai]cf, aqd owrly opprwoh- 



ing la length of time, to that which has been Di>ted_ 
in the ca^e of tbe lr>rds of Leicester. The Lor~ 
Hnwnrdcn, with whom tbe dignity commencedj/ 
was msrried to his Rrab wife in 1766. and his toRt; 
Capt. Francis Maude, K.K., was married to hifl 
second wife Jane SS, 1B19. Tbe interval fallfl 
but little short— only seven years— of the fulll 
hundred. R. W. 

Lamr and Mint Saucr (d*^ S. ix. 448; x. U, 
Si). — By family tradition I &Uo had originally be- 
lieved mint sance aa an aooompaniment to lamb 
to have been derived from the bitter herbs of the 
pASSorer, but constant ooottnentnl travel in after 
life baa railed a doubt. If the custom has really 
been adopted from the Jews, why should this have 
happened nnly in England, and not in any other 
country of Europe? R. H. Bdrc 

Sticklk;iack8 (6"" S. ix. 448).— Nasbe has 
stickle- bauck : "The silliest miller's thombe, or 
contemptible stickie-bauck of my enemi«^ is as 
basie nibbling about my fame, as if I were a 
deade man thrownc amongest them to feeds vpon" 
(" Lenten SliilT*?/ 1590, in irorfa, v. 109. Orosart, 
IBPl). G«o. L Appawjoir. 

Wimbledon. 

Earl Fitzthlliau PAiirrxD or Sir JosnuA 
nKY«oi.D9 {C"* 8. ix. 468, &II).— Tn 17G4 Lord 
Fit/.william, when sixteen, mt to Beynolds for a 
bead-fli/.ed portrait: this picture was engraved in 
the sixth volume of Reynolds's works. The picla 
belongs to the Earl of Zetland, and wus exhjbi 
by him at tho British Institation in 1S6A, and 
the Porlniit Exhibition in IH67. It now hangs 
Aske Hall, Yorkshire. The 17B5 portrnit of the 
earl, at the b(^ of thirty-seven, has never been 
exhibited at any lo.'kn exhibition since it was 
p:iinted ; the only record of ownerahip is in the 
table of contents of the 1845 edition of Reynold&'s 
works, where it is ducribed ni belonging to tbe 
Filz William family. Aloirno.v Gravrs. 

Ballad Wastrd (C"" 8. viiL 447).— 

" T iive«r by the tijlil of the MUbveloM mooDj 
And the tnight of Mary htffh." 

These lines are from an unfinished poem by 
Walter Soolt, entitled Th« Itdrtr't fV'idding. 

iL N. 0. 

Rrforuades (6** S. ix. 3(8. 433, «!! ; r 9n. 07 
— "Took pepper io tho nose**; tl, 
this with the expression "Ia nv 
tait au ner," and u.>r U made of U m iiiiiu>rr<? 
1.1 Femine aux Deux Miiris,'' an Knglinh fuik-la 
,,,..,.1.... I i„(„ Frcuch ff.r •^' '■■■■■ 
" Lo formivr 

\- .■ ; au ncs et se 

faotetnl," flow tbia pnasa^- 
lish venion of tbe story I ha r 



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BttOAD Arrow (««> S. ir 20fi, 294,418).— From 
a traoftcrint of the M3. entitled '* Naval Minates," 
DOW, I beliere, in the Pepyaiaa Libniry at Cam- 
bridf^, I take Ihe followini; notea bj Pepyi on the 
brood arrow. There la ioternal eridence to show 
that the dnte of these notes ir, ia t\\\ probability, 
ifl«r be left offloe in 1689, but nothing more can 
1>« said : — 

" Qwurc of the Murk genenillj oad under tbe Kiuae 
«r tbe Broad Arrow upOD kU GiKidi roODTenl of the Kinz 
or forfleted to him. u at the Cuatom houM or bcil(;ht 
Tor hi* aM in the Kkyt, it hciag vud ».ho (exatntno tb« 
trutti of it) tb*t it If bj tho Act of PnrUfor Tonnsne 
and Pountef;* expreuly eitabllihd fur that uh upon 
goodi forfleted." 

** One would hare tbonght that had oar Prioeea T^lud 
tfaMDwlVM M mDoh JD all Aget upon their Sea-dolnga, 
and SM-Powcr, tbfty would liaTo taken tlietr publick 
Bnwd, Mpecially that which wa« to icrvo tbom in Sea 
matter* (u ii just now obMrrdi from tomUiinu relatini; 
to that Klament, rather than from an ArroHhend. A 
conaidenLUon that would eoiily bavo incliod me from 
tho common Figure of it to hare drawn it to the tig- 
ntfylng (th-i' roielT) an Anchor r«tbor than an Arrow- 
kradj were it not that our Terf Laws, ai 1 lately herein 
noted, bare determinsd it for the latter." 

This is, p«rhitps, auffieicntiv decisivd to convince 
th« man; persooi who, like repjii, hftvo conjectured 
that the broad arrow was a corrupted representa- 
tion of the anchor. OsoKox F. EouI'KR. 

Streatham. 

"HooaR-MODER" (6«* S. ix, 607; i. 51).— In 
another panoge than the one quoted by Prop. 
Skkat, Skdton gtrea the more uaaal formj 
kitgger -mugger:— 

•* Aa men dare speka it AH^^^-mn^yer." 

»bhelton'f M<i7iwyemr«, \. 893; 
Dyoe, »ol. L p. 258. 
There are sereral examples of it in the translation 
of tbe Paruphnut of Era$mu$, where it nlwayi 
means s«cret, nnd ia generally apelt hu^tr-maggtr ; 
but in 2 Timothy, f. 21, it is given hueker mucker. 
Drant, who was a Lincolnahire clergyman, gives 
the autne spelling :~ 

*• What Taylea ft thee so (luakingtye 
to {[rubbc and iirippa tho moulde 1 
And there in Kurler mvclrtr Ijdo 
tbjr Idolle Ood thj icouMv 1 " 

Drant'e Jloratt, ]557, 1. Ut. 

M»if$y weather means dull, thick weather in this 
coiiQtT, and, in thi.^ part of it, huddlo-muddU is 
the term for disorder and oonfaaion, but huggtr- 
mu^^eris seldom or never heard; thns, apparently, 
Wv iiAUv from the nsafre of tho more northern part 
of ttM county, where Mr. Peacock lires. 

R. R 
Boilun, LlacoInihLro. 

In coonexLOQ with this discussion, it may be 
worth while to note that in tho wonderfully pic- 
turefi|ue old town of Hildesheim (Hnuover) there 
b a street ttdled Kckeiuecker Strasse. There i-i 
aoUuAg porticuluily hug^eT'muggir or concealed 



■k 



about it, aa It leads from tho Andreas Klrche to 
tho Alte Markt, and is not more of a back street 
than many others in the town, except that it has 
one queer twist in it, tho corner of which may 
po»tb1y be the Eck^ which has ^iveo rise to the 
name. Does the name occur elsewhere as tha 
name of a street I B. W. S. 

Hkraldb' Collkgk : Deoradatiov from tqc 
Hovour of KmoaTROoo (6** S. ix. 448, M3), — 
May I point oat that Mr. Walter Thorubury, 
in Old and Xew London (vol i. p. S8G), givea , 
Harchiy, instead of Harcia or Barclay, as tbe nnma i 
of one of the three degraded koi^bts ; while the i 
date ia given as 1323, instead of 1323 ? The date,] 
again, of Sir Ralph Grey is atulod to be l-lti-tij 
whereas O. F. R. B. says U68. It is because Olt\ 
and Kev London ia generally accepted as an 
authority, nnd much quoted, that I think theita 
discrepoiioies ought not to be pa.<ued unnoticed. 
Tbe surname may well be a misprint ; but which 
of the dates ia correct ? If incorrectly etated in 
Oid and A^iic London, it will bo rectified, 1 hope, 
ia future editions. ALruA. 

Thr Snip LoMiwH {6«> 3. x. 48).— The London, 
of London, S67 tons, William Andrews nutstery 
waa built in the river Thames in 1778. 69 
Lloyd^i List for March 17, 1601^ she soili 
from Portamonth for Minorca, and was lost naal 
Liabon ; date not given. Thooios, John, andj 
James Mather, merchants, of Pinsbary SqoarM 
owners. Evsaano Hohb Oolkka:c, 

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ifnUntffn. By William Carr. The Stanliopa Prise 
_ Eisiiy. l??f (Oxf-rJ. Tiioniton.) 
Nu KtronKer [.rixif c«ii he k.tbh of the efftict i>f goographi- 
cnl litufttiiiii, ioil, itiid clinuito on the history of a n«ople 
than i« to b<j found in that uf MoQtcnctcro. The Loroie 
itoryof the five hundred year*' wsr for independence 
was not known when tbe late Henry Tbumaa Buekle 
WToto the Dial vullou* fraKinttnt of A ffittory of CivitiKS- 
tun. Had he been aware of what we know, we may 
be certain that he would have used tbe history of tbe 
tribal of the Rlaclt Mountain to tuitain one eidc of bia 
great argument. Mr. Carr't painplilet is a prixe eisity, 
and U Ihemfore far too short. We have, however, unJcr 
the circuinitancefl. no right to complain uf iu not Iveing 
longer. We trust a time may come when bo may ha«u 
leisure to give uj a more extentlvJ account of one of tho 
most interesting cKpenments in civilization nhicli tbe 
W'trld has seen. Ilo ii eonipiououalr fkir. There ii 
in his pagca none of that unrtroaonahte abute of lalara 
which one •ometlmei finds in Ruthors of hijb repott*; 
and, on tl)o ot)ttr han>l, ho tells pltinly how tbe wrongi 
that the .Mtinten«'f£rinH bad aufTered have driven them at 
tinie* iiU0Hct« bf waribm barbarity. Ardent poUllcUna 
of nil parlica nficn talk fluently about "tbe Eastern 
Qutilicn " without tho tmOteit kaotrlcdge of the lutt- 
I ject. To such pertona wa (hould recommend a careftU 
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Soiid«i ffaunU I3 ClUftiJe and Riwrtidt. By Scmard 

B. B«ck«r. (BeminKlon ic Co.) 
Few collcctloni of nowspapcr &rticlei an nor* breexy, 
mote tnipiritiojr, and mora itimDlftting thin ars tbe 
ileicriptiona of holiday liognii Mr. Becker nov nipiiUof. 
^feermrily abort, tud intended to oonTcy a glimpse 
rather than a piotore, tlioy are yat inikrtcrd by elnao 
fldelity and accurate obicrrattoi). Concerning bikIi 
northern watering places as Rairogate, Scarborough, 
Ealtbuni-by<the Sea, &:c, Dotbins better baa b«cn said, 
jih'At! ptcuanc loffif p is fumisbed about nutfaem haanta, 
and oven a few forci^ plaett like SchcTflDingen. Though 
compoied of collecltd nrtiplef. ilciiuia^ //aHaCf proToku 
to coDtinaous rcaditiK, and l«w who open tba book will 
taH to read it through at a IrHth. 

JUtutrutiom of Ou Anihor of Wat*rUy: btin^ yoUea 
aiidAit«cdcteioflitatCharactn-$,''if-ttua,at^ tMititnU 
mpjioted to fti! daerH/td in kit Wiyrki. Ilf ]lo)>ort 
CbMDberi. Third Edition. {W. k R. ClianibrrO 
Tan edition ia a poHtliumoai work, and oiunt, therciore, 
ba rtgarded, to a certain oitcnt, aa a monamimt of the 
editora piftas trga jxUrtm. Tho book waa well worth 
niaatUDg, but it waa alao worth oarerat annotating on 
poiota where the author'a own jadgment, bad he atill 
Deen among ua, would probably bare lugecited anno- 
tation, if not tcxtiuil alteration. For initauco, wo cannot 
lupixna that Mr. Clinnibera would, in hi< later life, have 
■pOKon or Tra4|uair IIouso aa taking ita namo frotn the 
oarla, wbereaa, in point or fact, tba convorrc w»a tbe 
truth, and any Ocottiih hlitoncal ttudrnt w<5u1d know 
that Traqoair waa to bu fuuud In tbo Scottitb Record* 
long before a Stuart of Traqualr waa in exiatenea. And 
tn hia diacuwion of tbe auppotod or>B)nal> of tbe prinef p*l 
MCiies and obaractcn in TKe Bride of Latumrrmcor 
Mr. Chambers wai tqually unfortuoalo lo aome of bU 
language. 

Official Fear-Sook of Ltamrd and Seiatli/c Societitt, 

(Griffin A Co.) 
Tbia ia a uio8t praiseworthy and luaful compilation. It 
ia a li«t. with full particular*, of CTory Icnmed pociety, 
Dtit only in Gront Britain aitd the culoni>.f, but alio 
on tba continent uf Europe. UaTlug compared it with 
a limtUr German cauloguo, we can testify to its 
accuracy in tho lutter reaprct, and tbo wliolo work, 
attended as it must have l^OQ with great trouble and 
patience, la creditable to tbe compilor. 

Piclitrttqiu iVut*s. (Adimi k Sana ) 
Tbk above, a handbook to that part of Wales tmreraed 

Sr the Cambrian Railway, ii a marvel rif ncatneu and 
10 nf cheanneH. It cr>ntaina two excoltent mai4, and 
ta filled wita woll-ctcciitcd wn«lcut«; but it in a pity 
that the extremely pretty colnurird picture rn tbe out- 
aide cover waa not placed iniidc tbo buok, aa it ia widl 
worib pruarvation, 

Tnv. currant number of Le Litrt rontalni two readable 
anil valuable pareri — one on " Lqi OuliU do ITcrivnin : 
I'Socre et lea Cucrlem." and a lecond, with a rapunl 
illDBtraUon, opun ' Ln Bililitithtiiue 'In llHi 1 i{ibrle 
Jacob." The number alio cnntaini a y u^iuh 

ilternture by I>r. Weatland Maiiton ii'i ':LloD 

< -,»■»« wtlh an cM>av on " The 

Ei.,..-... . '- ^'"-ty of Greek.*" "Mind 

tn Animal* i> la Old London" arc 

also ti)cliula>) " 



Tan lateniatlofthl liiterarr Awiooiallnn, founded in 

Pula at a conereaa bol4 in ISTS, baa lately added to ita 

M/0 tbo 0j'/thet "Artbtic." Tbo prograaitue of the 



oomiDg Madrid congreia baa juit been diitriboted to tliq 
members, and readers of "M, & Q" ntay like to kn4 
that the Bpaniab Asaociatioa of Men of Letters aa 

ArtiiCa ifl orunnizin); what promisca to be a very i| 
tercating czYiibil-on, illu^tratiTa or Spanish arta aa 
letlrrrv, during the crvngrcM, which is to be oprnrd 
September '2i}. Tbe exbibilion will inclwlc ikctcO 
and plana and modola of nnciirnt and modern tbcatrea I 
S))iiin, and of tbeatrictl propwrtioa; collcctinns 0" 
taerameKtalfi, and of rare'MSS. and di>cii<)ieil 
neoted with tbe literary, nrtiitic, and dramalia 
of Spain. Our chief regret on reading auch a rail 
programme in tbnt It will only bo carried into exf<cut 
for the abort rpacc of a fortati;bt— f^m Oot<jbcr 1 to 1 

A SoOtiTT for the Concerration of Antiquitioa fnund 
In tbo City of London and Its Vicinity, wbiob baa Juat 
been catatiliabed, baa itrons claima upon aoUtjuartea. 
Its action bu oommcoced, uapplly cnounb, by rcacaing 
some Ham\n remains ditcoTered in Bavii Marki. An 
influoiitial committee, with Sir Ji>lin Lubbork, Bart., 
M.r., F.U S., OS troaaurer^and Mr. John K. Pricej V^ 
aa secretary, baa been appointed. 




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Wt mutl call Mpeeiat aUmOeu lo tht foUovin^ noliei 

Ox all commoDioationa must bo written tho namo ai 
addreaa of tbe aonder.not Deceeaarlly for publication, bi 
aa a guarantee of good faitb. 

Wi cannot undertake to answer qaariea privately. 

To secure insertion of commnnicatioDS correspondent! 
mnit observe tbe following rule. Let eicb note. quor)'. 
or reply be written on a separata slip of paper, with the 
aiipiaturo of tbe writer and aocb addma aa be wiahea to 
appear. Corroipondonta wlin repeat queries are re<jiKit«d 
to bead the second communication " Duplicate." 

C. 0. MoRBS {Erebro, Sweden),— A book dealing with 
the exprcSMona tmplnjod by bathers nn-l '—--'■ nf 
hatha ia not enaily found. Tbe mo«t pr'i i« 

Hutortf of Void liiitKtny, Irolh Ancxnt trr ■ 
twi< partt, the fir»t wrillen l>y Sir Joliii Flo\<;r, ;.!' I. 
field, Knt, tbo second by Dr. Kdward Bftynard, Krll 
of tbo College of Phrsccians, aittb cditiun, I^indc. 
1732, pp. 532. If we neur of any otlter work ne will 
inform yon of it throogb Ibia column. 

C A. Ward Aar» OtaSM ("An American View of 
LofhIuo Topograpby "). — It appears unTortuiiately nvces* 
sary to atate that ibo paaaagea given between braokel«« 
(TK(e, p. 105, concerning Stratford' a tt«- Bow e, are from 
tlte Kew York CViifr. and are advanced as specimena of 
confucttl and mUltating information. Some of our cor- 
reanondenta have auppnscd Ilia parafiranli, quoted a* "a 
little startling." lobuve been an editt>Hiil cnttimuui' 
Tbe marlta of rjuotation should sofoly have p: 
auch an aaiamption. 

hx\vf ("Pouring oil on troubled watera").— There" 
00 dcoisiro answer to tbe <)ui*«Uon 'jcm pot, wbkb 
senta itself every f—- — - '■- 

F. ("Letno'. > liappy before hia death " 

— Iliii aontcnee m i to br«u uttered by tfoloo 

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10«-OnBUfr Baft Jit aad MaftaB— Mvilws ot Jobs 
AMitB— Boya) Soxttaaa— Torpcatew. 1ST—" Paid fasaa," 
*c— Tal>P«te-PM«Uh~HaBd-wtma Lisa— WMcbcnft 
bi IbateBtf— A Daalk VAfBis»-P>a»-HonB «IU SMnt 
rfcaiahafTllii Tlwll vt Blt^ U Latvia i w M b b a< AI- 
■ntol niW mmr la KattmA-'Wooam ^M^m, ua. 

3(OnB 031 B0OXB:~My«*a " Bd ia l a fl rnaa Woifea of 
Jtmoa" — Ooaaaa -DliMBMB of Str J. BarwUa** — 
- Qmartaf flanaaM BacaffAL** 

SoUaaa IP O bm m m " ■ * ■* ' ! *«• 



HAOTAR FOLKTALES. 

fC«iiWiu/<«J/nm p. 104.) 

Tn« "El* Laiaba" naT be Ukep as » f«ii 

rpvaniVB of the qnunt aod dry «>7 ia irljjch tbe 

fcIk-Ute hit! off some wwkDms of the people, or 

(leila tlj no% ftt eome lectioD or dvi of the oom- 

maoity. Ox conne, there ua the tuiul Ules aboat 

th« (ixtlijh men io oertAin TiUagei, e.^., men who 

irifd to ou-rj a ladder eronwiM thronsb a foreit, 

and eo set to work to ctit a punp of that breadth 

throagh the wood ; of othen who hoiited, with a 

rope tied roaod bU neckf a boU ap to the roof 

of the church in order that be might feed on the 

grua there — DoUclng the anuual'a lofn^foe baaging 

out of hU moolb, they laid, " See, he wa&U it 

already"; and many othen^aomeof which on Kandj 

b« tntubfcled. N<xtweme«i *'l7i8gfeak*r**fseha« 

mt a niM) gircaof what he did before hi* 

<B married or bawubom.tfnll of abnir- 

>j>H<:? mMltbemoitmockatKmiHee. Other talce UU 

of the friectdabipt and enmitus of aniinala, locb aa 

, the ator7 aboDt a pig who had a moat nloable 

I doccmctit. Al he waa Eoisg away from borne 

I he adied bis friend the oog to take care of it for 

him ; boft the iio|^ bariog iom« baaincas to do, 

f liQacBttireben. 



fiaanl it on to the oat, who in tun, s**tiiiff I 
of it, hid it beUnd a beam, aod went oat to hai 
a frieodly ohak with a neighbour ; bat it ao h 
penfd that a roonM paasiog that way smelt 
docomeat aad nibbled it up, so wtwa the | 
wanted bti docamest so one ootild prodaco 
there was mutual rccriminalion, and they hav 
never spoken to each other since. (Artsy.) 

Tbe cat remiodi ns of a hamorons taU 
under tbe name of tbe " I«zy Oat,'** which 
will bffcin in the Maerar fo^oo. Ihera 
ODcc — I do DOt know where, even beyond aero 
tim(« seren coantriec, and a cock's crow ' 
that — an immensely tall poplar tie*. lUa 
had aeren times icTenty-serea branobw, on i 
braoeb thera wen aerca tinea mthi^-4 
crowa' ncats, aod in aaoh nest aeren timee earait 
seven yoong crowa. May those who do not 1 
attentirely to my tAle or who doia har* 

tjn peckad oat by all thoae yoong etowi ! 

uoae who Uiten wiUi attcDtion will nerer behold 
the land of the ZionL 

A lad raanicd a lazy rich ^irl, and made 
TOW that ha voald neTer beat her. Now, Ik 
mistress went aboat from hooaa to booaa i 
aod making miidiief, but aerer did aoytUBg 
home. St^ the lad nercr beat her. One i 
AC the hcaband was goiog ont to work, he aaid 
tfaa cat, ** Yoa cat, I eomouuid yon to do 
dking that ia needed while I am awaj ; eook i 
dinner, tidy tbe boose, and get some tpii 
done. If yoQ don't, 1 11 fs^re yoa soch a thr 
aa you hare oerer bad tn yoor life.** Tbe ' 
tLoaffbt her hosbaod was mad, and asked 
w by be gare hie orders to the oat. " Becanea t ' 
lure no one else to giro orders tfl^" mUod tho 
bnsband, " and wbcthcc she tindeateBU or no^ 
woe be to her if riw doea not carry ont my < 
maoda.' So tho naa wot to work, and too wij 
warned the cat to do as she was bid ; bat the < 
blinked on, and the wife went o-goanmog, i 
EG night came and nonght was done. When tho ' 
man entered aod saw bow roatten stood, he took 
the cat byitatu],Csat«EiedittokiawifB^sback,aDd 
began to beat H onmereifblly. ''Dont beat thai 
c&l any more! "cried the woman. "Mercy! stopl 
The cat doesnt ooderstand." " Will yoa do tho 
work instead of bee P sold the man. ''Tee, 
yea ; only slop beoting that cat.'' Ntx\ morning 
tbe cat racuved tho mow warning, and ercnin^ 
saw the aBmoaoaBaeaaatodaB before. On the " 
morning tho oak «» ia on agoDy of terror 
fled, bnt the woman Hstened^ aod that day no 
was Left andooe ; for tho ends of tho two-t' 
wbip reached some one else's bock beaidea tho' 
cat's, aod the anioia] stock its daws OiToagh aU 
in its pun. That eight all was done wbw tho 
bosband retained, and he said, " Don't be afraid, 

• ExiiB,xL 



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|attflLX.ADS.2S.'M. 



oat; I will not. thrush yoa now." Erer after that 
the cat had no more beatings, and tho mlslreu 
beeame each a good hooBowifo that jon ooald not 
wish for a better. 

Of course it is true, as Mr. Ralstoo bos 
ahown us in bis cb&ruiiDg work, Iltuiian J'^'oU;- 
Tales, Uist it is the samo jests, to a large 
extent, that form the stook-in-trade of the riistio 
wsgi amoDg the Tioeyards of France and Qer- 
many, that hare for centuries set bpards wagging 
in Cairo and Ispahan, and in the cool of day bnva 
ofaeeied the heart of the Tillsger weary with bis 
day*B toil under the bumiog sun of India. Yet 
one ia inclined to credit the Msgyar with a fair 
share of nacivo wit, and certaioly & vivid and 
on aotire iinagination. Many of the taloa contain 
striking and even beautiful parts, and, although 
told by peasants, are as polished in their coq- 
Btraction as if from the pen of the most cultuied 
writer*. This often strikes me, as tho tale is told, 
as a Bpedal featare in many of the stonrs in tho 
colleotions I have specially chosen for consideration. 
Full of pioturesqae incidents — such as when the 
Persian prince meets the elk bearing a golden 
oofiin between its horns, in which the most beanli- 
fal oraatore in the world lies, supposed to be dead, 
but really only in a trance caused by a pin hid in 
her h^ir — the tales of Hungnry are well worthy 
uf uarefut and patient study. Of course, otie ntf ets 
the old themes oTcr and orer again (gometiuici four 
or fiTO tales woven iuto one); but there are alio 
others which, so f>xt as my knowledge goes, are 
by no means coumoa, aod rarely met with else- 
where. 

SoperstitioDS and strange customs, proverbs 
;ind hvnt mots turn up on every side, coming ont 
with peculiar oleamess from the lips of those who 
aa yet have not ceased to believe in the wonders 
they relate ; for to them thunder is still St. Peter 
playing skittles, and the wood singing in the fire 
ihe groans of tho pwr luuls in purgatory, who 
uuflt be relieved fay salt ibrowu u{Jon the crack- 
ling fitc. Spirita still live in the water, and must 
bs propitiated ; mischievous sprites torment the 
UDfortuuate farmer ; elcktiess and disease are 
the results of witchcraft, and so the folk doctor 
lloarishes as the green bay tree.* Moreover, the 
peasant life finds iu reflex in the tales. Now we 
nave a full and particular description of the making 
and oODRuming <d millet cakes, aod now a j-^lly 
gathering of peasant girls met to strip Iha U'.o 
which they hnvc collected during the tuii< 
wo sea the country folk by their hearths, iu ihe 
market, on tho wayside, fuUnwiog the plonglu in 



* fn a r«cent i>: 



nuii;**r!Bi 



sorrow and in joy. We find remains of old times, 
when kioga addrossod their servnnls as "my 
dear servunt,"* for the whole folklore monarchy is 
more in the style of father and family than the 
stiff and rigid etiquette which surrounds our 
present courts. 

But I must cease cow, and leave unexplored 
the region of Johara nod the Operencian Sea,f 
beyond which He untold wonders : giants whose 
heads pierce the clouds, and whose speed is ao 
(;reut that no mortal can keep his eyes open as the 
giant carries him to his destined phu» ; witches 
of intolerable ugliness ; migio horses, so mighty 
that their feet stand in difltirent lands, and their 
heads in another, where they feed on the grassy 
plains ; they rush to the end of tho world like the 
hurricane, aod ascend glass monntaina wi^ their 
diamond- nailed golden ahoea with aa great ease as 
if they cantered along the smoothest highway; nay, 
they can even ascend to the very gates of heaven 
itself. And if their jonrney be so loog that yoath 
depurts, and their teelh begin to drop out, they 
can renew thoir slreogtb and that of the hero whose 
good fortune favours him with a Tiitos. I must 
pass by dragons with seven and nine heads, and 
by the towns of " Black Sorrow " where sLrtat* 
are in mourning beoausa day by day a dragon de- 
vours a part of its fair daugbters. Yet weep not, 
Wit reader; the gallant knight already is caroeriog 
on the plain, and though crafty " Knight Red"! 
will try to persuade the people thai he is their 
deliverer, and walk with high head adown their 
streets, yet the real man has the dragon's tongues 
wrapped up in his pocket-handkerchief ready for 
the crucial moment. 

We must moQut our Tii'os to get through the 
wonderland within oar limits, aod pais by with 
hasty glance the priaoe who for love steals into 
the fair lady'a presence, concealed in a Rdver bone ; 
and poor Cinder Jack, Cinderella's brother, who 
sits among tho asbee behind the oven, and calmly 
bearji all his brothers' uoklodoesv, fur he has n 
good friend, and three times springs over the high 
pole, and wins the golden prize, and fiually the 
lovely princess, by means of his frog friend.^ 

* TliQ Enipi^ror or Austria, u King or Hunenry, li 
Bcceiblbta ti) mil liu aulijoats ftt llo'Upfat, mtd ti'>t li>ni; 
««" ] ■ ' ' " n tlit[>(ite ^ I >I»g/ftr 

{•CKi II <iut oter ft ' 



tijr ihs mvAUriiinx " 



n." ThEittory 
1 1 t*lM as Ut« 



Uiai Ihsro wss one io ibt ud^bbgurltooa of tbvir vUia^s. { at last Ciaasr Jw:k tucustib. TUo 'ii<ll-hnown 




9*&X.Am.23,'S4.1 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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p 



Yonder oonDk tarn lomenaalti, and ob« beoomea 
> miUet firld, the other the ij'irile champ/trc^ or 
oo« an old ohjip;l. lUid the other h friar lo the 
palpit, nod no eicApe the raf;o of the iofariated 
Mreata, who folloir them like dm^onii or fAloons. 
W« meet his SatAoio majesty, bttt flad him Terj 
iDe»k luid mild, aod rery much impoMd upoo, iu 
onecttse by bii fiwn eon Johnnie, who runs away with 
the little heroine. Now wc meet a kioK cryion 
with one eye and lAtif;hiD({ with the other; caatlea 
kwivel round on the le^i of ^eeee ; loaves ;<pmik and 
%Kmiy dragooa m they describe their iiifferinn 
uDoe Uiey vere taedj ; wondrooa wella bubble 
and fouQ, and reitora cripplea to atreo^th 
and health, makiuft bands ana feet grow that 
envitMB Hintere bare oat olf from the pootyoaogeat 
iiater. .Mn^io Dran^ea wait for a« to open and 
to find th^rfin osatlea of t^old, preatded oTer by 
princeajKB whose be&nty diizzles the eye, and dims 
eTen the light of the stin by ita apleodoar ; or 
mi^bap witUo the akin liei coiled up a fairy girl, 
u a moon in brightness, and litbe aa the guulte, 
vhoee eyes flash as the diamonds; but, ob, what 
woe if opened in a land where no water \*, for 
llmi will the frafjile beauty fade away before our 
njm \ All these wonders, yea, and myriads more. 
v« miui leare for the present, bat yotu oourteoua 
reader, Deuiwbilo un find them, " I don't know 
wber*, in an old petticoat, over a hundred Tears 
old, lying in the tacks thereof, whore I foond my 
storiea; May they all be your gaeate to-morrow ! " 
CompamtiTely few referenoea hare been giran 
t4 the immense number of folk-tales whicb are 
cooneeted with , or similar to, the stories mentioned 
in the preaent article, na it will readily be seen that 
nich wonid be far beyond the limits of a sketch 
like the present. For this reason I hare con- 
fined my notes chiefly to materials whicb bare 
been eent to me by the kindness of foreifrn friends, 
or Ibe Mrape I hare collected myself. The Lap]} 
nfmncei we principally from Lappiski Evtntyr 
eg Fotiaugn, rul Pruf. Ftiii, the Swedish from 
Hoffaerg's Sctrukn I'i-ll:ir)nrr, and the Finnifih 
from Suomcn KiT}$an .Sijd^jij ja TaTinnila. With 
Ibe hewty and kindly be>tp of the nuthors and 
eollecton of the Mbove works, I bare oompleted an 
Roglish tnutslation of ihem all, and some day or 

T ■ . 1 I «n ni»nncr of wiyi, one 

<-«t reteiohlancc to our own 

■li story of tlio wiinJflfful 

' •mraice uuiitiar. Tba 

' •UBO t-lie will Dot cs\ 

■. ...■■.«. Tbfn follow* tt.« 

•iitin^ t«r iii>«in tlio doif- 

tl-.e ttir-^>lK-M. u'r'.n the 

'tin- 

1 to 

:re)( 
■il- 

tan >i4;t.iju : /.w<« >,,,.. '■Klein 



Other I bf^pe to be able to publish them wiUi 
noteR, belioTiii^ them to be of ffreat interest to , 
tho folk-lore student. W. HsiTBr JoxKS. 

Yorks Honte, Skirbeck Quarter, Boston* 



THB NAMES 0? TUK 8EAdOSd Of THB 
YBAK IS tmOUiSn. 
Those who hare much to do with the af^ed wUl 
often bear them c:)mplain that onr teaaoos hare 
ohan|{ed of later years, and that practically wo 
hare only two left to us— & damp, mtaty winter 
and a mild, humid summor. They say that the 
old Bouons only now exi&t in the imiglnation of 
the poets, and that, exc<*pt for the evidence of the 
son's regularity, the sammer may be called a six 
months' spring;, and the winter n six months' 
autumn. Ko doubt those feelings are chiefly 
owing to an increostttfE inability on the part of the 
old to resist chant^esof temperatare, and especLiIIy 
to tolerate humid and gloomy weather. Perhaps 
this necpftiary consequence of old age has some- 
thtoK to do witb an eloquent leotara which I r^ 
cently heard given by Mr. Koikto at the London 
loatitutioQ on " The Storm Otoad of the Xine- 
teenth Century," aleotore full of Btrikiog phrases, 
but of doubtful philosophy and more doubtful 
science. That lecture sngt;eat«d to my tnind somo 
reflections on the cliancter of oar seasons, and 
particularly on the origin of the names by which 
we call them. 

It seems to me that, making every allowance 
for changes produced through oultivatioD and 
civilizing influences on the earth's surfacet 
our seasons are much the same sji in ancient 
KngUnd, and that, like our earliest known 
ancestors, we hare bat two iudigeooas eeasons, 
summer and wloter. Spring and autumn are 
modem and foreign inventions for the Utter park 
of winter and the Utter part of snmmer. Before 
the advent of astronomy and cirllizition the 
seasons could not have been dittinotly marked 
out, nod must bare differed according to the 
climuto and the customs of the people in different 
countries. The Greek en/i, Oipo<i, urrupa, nnd 
^ci/j(t did not exactly correspond with the Latin 
I'cr, trstin, ni(f umnu5, and hienu, still less with the 
Kogliiih spring', summer, autumn, and winter. ]i 
not Oifios used by some Greek writers fora longer 
ftMson than oar summer—for the whole period 
of seed -sowing, cnltiratioo, and harvest? Oar 
Teutooie ancestors knew of only two teasons, 
summer and vrinter, nnd I ibink also these ara . 
the only two speoiaily mentioned in the Bible. I ] 
often used to wonder why wo have no Teutonic word] 
for the autumn, and wby*' spring" is so exclu-l 
slvely Kngliah, although "*nmmer"and "winter"] 
Am identical in Goglish, (^ennnii, Flemish, and)! 
Dutch. T.icilns (Girmanui, c. xcv'.) implies Ihaft] 
ouraucettort bad no aeoaoa of AQtuoiD, becausBi 



144 



NOTES AND QUERIES, c«*B.3LADfl.23/8i 



they bad no frails to gather. Still both " Bpring" 
and "aiitumn" maal have come early into cziBtoDCt, 
specially after intoroontse with the Boatb. 
Popular language ooufirms the idea that the 
Teutonie people nad formerly ooly " summer " aod 
" winter." Occa&ioDally we may hear the peaaaotry 
Id difTerent p»rta of EaglaDd desiKaate the Feaat 
of St. Thomas, December 21, Midwinter Day, 
inst as we all call St. John BjipttAt'e Day, June SI, 
Midsummer Day. In BrabaDt and Flaodcrs Mid- 
lent Sunday is always Zomcrdsfr, or tho first day 
of snmmer, and the feast of the Baptist is Mid- 
romcrdfif^, an with us ; while the Feut of St. 
Matthew, St>ptemb«r SI, is Wioterdai;, or 
tho first dny of winter, and Christmas h*y U 
in Fifindera Midwinter. I reatare to think 
that ''sprioK" was not origio&lly employed for 
a tfarre months' season, but only to mark the 
be^inuiug of the year, like the French jirin- 
tcmp$. or perhaps the begiooinfc of ancamer, 
as in Flanden. The year in old England began 
at the end of March. In Belgium the year b<^an 
dilTt^rently in different provinces, till by a proota- 
inHtioa of the Duo de Keqaesena, Governor of the 
Netherlands, in June, 1675, it was ordained that 
the year should begin on January 1. 

As to tlie origin of the names of the seasons, 
''spring" is identical with the Flotniih tyi-ony in 
ooa/iroTifl, origin. Tho usual Flemifih word fur this 
ae»80n is fm(e, coining from tbesamerootas/in^soft. 
" Summer ' {zoitur in Flemish and Dutch, $omm«T 
In German) is commonly referred to the same root 
fti Sunday, viz., Sunns, the goddess of the sun. 
"Autumn" (fr'Jni theLttiouitctxm) we never seem 
to have had in Eo^'iBh literature before Chaucer. 
It occurs in his translatien of B'Xthiae, bk. }., 
"the plentnous natumpe," and in Tht Comrkiint 
p/ (/(« Hinck Knight "harvest" Is found oefore 
autumn. " Winter "ii perhaps from the same root 
as '• wind," or from the same root as " wet," jast as 
HitTitM and hibemus are likely to bo from imbcr. 
Bnt t am no profeued Authority on etymology, 
and I should like to know more about tho origin 
and history of our word^ for the seasons. 

J. Maskell. 
Em«.nii«l HoipUol, 8.W. 



Lrtters of SiTt JoB5 BowRrxo TO M. Fattbirl. 
(See aute, p. 4.)— The Annual lifgUtr tot 1S22 
coQtnins the following panigraph :— 

" >[, Howrioi*, tmnitalnr of tlte RuHion aiiUioIofcyt 

Canil? 'r^Jii I'ti. t < ("■p.l.'J i.n S'rit.ir.lnv r.T.,t w,-.^ ..I-mijI 10 

•i-i Ken 

til. ....(. 



plaeetl st tho dUpotition of the Proeureur di Rot and 
tbvtkll tlie (>nper« thouM \<a funru-iloJ to l'ar't«. Aft«r 
some time lie was liberated, witluiut hv\u^ Icuu^Ut to 
trial," 

The lettera I now print belong to Ibe period of 
Sir John Bowrin{>*4 incirceritioo. His relations 
with such uotorioui Liberals as Auguitin Thierry 
and Fauricl had bruuglit him under nuiipioion, 
especially at a time when General Berton'ti eon- 
Bpirncy and other movements of (be wuifl nature 
were revealing tho deep-seated animoaity which 
existed in France againat (be govenuuent of 
Bourbons. 



1 

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AToQ bien Blm6 Pikurlel, — Jo remeta eei deoz mots i_ 
3(. Ic Proeuivur d<i Rii en reufgagcBnt, t'il u*/ TUii 
kuoun obstacle, & let fniro muttre a U pMto. 

Jfl m'oceupa toujourt dans m% prlnn do met tniduo' 
tions niue ct ftlleoinnde; mala cela m'tiiduio un ] 
O'fst (vu/ouu perdhx. Je Tout cngnjfo A Uti rcms 
au I'luitut unu viriginiDO da i>iig«t de« pivcot fjrocijue 
que ros tnductloni (ct note*) In nccrnnpiienent, ec iij 
verroDi to portl k tircr. J'tiimcrtii bion ft svolr I 
eluBun de Monzoni, aumt ^r^r nn« tmditrtinn, pt j^ 
fcrni un tirticte pour un do n ! :ioi~ 

arniA, Yoii* jiouvi-st ndrrsror 'o- 

consul STiijlxii M. Hfiiiiilton i< - . ia 

nmi*oii (I'arrit mtuiB, »tcc o.-Ji>a d Ciio tsmiiiiir imr M. 
Ic Procnrcur da Rot Los itrtidei snr I'hiiUiiro de 
rAnglctcrrd sor.t farts, et,i'e«|icro quo voui seres content 
Jo cc o'le j'y ai tiji>ul(j. 

Jc rue X une TniKc.lio lil^lorifjoo viT CO fujet. D im 
salt «i I'erabrj'jn onttra J«tnali I ^^1 

Jo Tou-Intls bien aroir lei e»hiers<faiontpara dava^^l 
toci^tc astattqtic. Volt tt me arKX. ^^^ 

Tout It vottt 

DowBTao. 

^ilaiion d' Arret. Boulogne, M Octobro, 1822. 

A Ibloniieur Faurtel, Rue dos VleiUes TuUlerias, 
No. 2-.', Paris. 

Londres. 11 Avrll, 1S33, 

CariHimo.— Jo Tous dnnne deux tnriU da r^pnme K 
TOtro kiiiiatili. Pottr Ic* cbamnnii Orrcniics, J ni une 
mals^.n qui le rhargera de la (nLituolioii nntilaiMp, 
en payant toui lea frail; a'd y a do {irofit, ct i'm 
«ati na>ur6,Jo roulali I9 donnor nu oomlt^ creo. Cue 
ImJucrinn rmnvftTia ne lo vendratt paa ici, Je do 
m^me ai noai pDnrrimi trouvi-r mi\ libmire c|ut 
cb&iy«r*it do la {ittlilicatton. M<ii, pcat>4tre, piirmi 0. 
amii ja pourr«i« trourer uno quirantaino dc pttsan^ 

3n\ loa r'reriilraicnt, mail I'rin li «iin« p'Li, on no rout ~ 
trrtdiiction tn prOTe(lci»'!.lri«no -.^^ - ■ - - - 
f^uoiqa'en prose). En rem coo mice 

«ni:iuler. Co qu'il j aora de plua dii;. . ,_ 

•crj dp vnui r<^miinerer, ot T^mi Uotoi mo ]i»f k-r franehe* 
raenl lur co point ; jo feral co que je peuK. Pour la pub- 
1io>ition del obanioijfj poar K traducilon en vers aiigti ' 
je voui n!-poitdi. 

Notre remoj d ce que J'e«p*re lrahl«n. Lapp 
nuni^ru uc [«nittra mi'au I" D^cSmbrr. J* Toudfl 
biou y airiir queliue coufo do vuoi pour montrer «e 




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' 9« ne irko kM«« flnlkfaf m atk ti laA cm 

doabt fee • ■ ■■ ■■* tet OB tUi pMM Qhmt 

,Wrf||^ «»d lk» Mtem ttywoksitfi ■■■ifiillr 

jvioM. It it rlwutwiIlT iMfrihto thi faBfr- 

l|M(«tthslM«^eMUh»»flMB boMfiaU 

T-f «2m^ nor eo^ MBd.U pifltf ranlt fran air. 

n{Stnml\ Agiia, thevardfwOs nplin 

F ^kUa m jToras v'Ti *^ nal BBm hnv mob 

I nrad «r bwy-WMi MUiffi. Qatbtcitoknd, 

L 4gimA WW • t«efaii«l hitk Ura, wifif afioB 

1^ from lluxt7-foar to &Ay-4MC, ud ra wtd 

m tbe EDmatsit of "•oUicr'' :«m OlteaiyV Tbt 

*'«l}ovcfaM* a gtwnlly rwptfiittd with Um 

''\trn ": l]ic Ultet «« the UA MKn mMmv 

tftad fi$^tmg mMm; Ika iaoMr vm a BneMwjr, 

'^snd miwUjr, ■■ SpnMf^ dcfcrifKiai i fttan , a 

ftniner. A. U MiTHiir. 

OxIoriL 

SATIUtlAL KFtTATB OV Dk. JoIUC«>3I. — SoOW 

I wTCf* renBrici oa Ibe pmt Inioogn^ilKr oocar, 

•hen tfa«7 on »o( likcJ^ be •»■ bj ntM^, in 
I Um gto«aM7 to Hfvdere'A Porau, edited by G^r^e 
I UiKW from o MS. hi bti puw&sioa in 173G, -lio., 

no^ the wocil '^ SldO." Aficf TyrwhiCt he ex- 

(Aaiat tliia as 

iM. TUb oi^i of «W/ It aa moiem m 8hdi- 

vpMrO'o TTtnUr'i ftflt. Tbo puitf« ii proper); es- 



bd 




TW >t ii f>i » fc it l oit i oJ m capital lettM*, is I 
lu Kio^ iitif ji a t » pac» «bA > kolf im^ 

. , itoo ip o cMl COM* Ibr — 
ofpofi^ of Mfaf Md hofaici^ tet oo I hm i 
boviedgo «l Uh pHtieolMO ol Ooo^o lii 
Kit I OK Ml abk to Ikiov a^ U|te apoB iL 

W. &. Bcc&LET. 

Srm,nKyrAi. Noa&— la Ba^fcm wear It* j 
veO-kaova liaeB : — 

*S»ltawaiTyiiill ■ ft^ 
TW toaaayfoK ef >t i a «i 'e — 
QU aoHMoaM Xota^ «kkh 
W iay^atteeleotat ft n l Br iiiat 
Bb« «liM the due W JTm* w M 
Ordmpa lhc«BfaAMe MOeL* 

It aaqr &•* W coaacaUv kaewa that 
wToto a wiafc en iho 0Bbfeei~a thin 
bookL Soiae xtoca ago^ wbca ia the SooUi of 
Fianee, I obtaned a ooojr. Il baa aa oacmvat 
title, with the antorial Ibtaringa of tbe Oo 
tunUj, tbe figntco of Hippoentea aad Galea* aai 
a tI^hcUo of aa ao^ aad a boj. nU U tb« 
title:— 

G«#r«rti I TftliMotfl I BiBinliaili { P« 
Chirvriria p^ ! ttaMoaeai | Ltfcri Vnx | Ad 
daisiB I PrtanpMi D. J Vtaemtaa t OoMMoa I :_— 
tjm k. IlMrtSt PtoiaU | Doobbi. | AfmA Oeiyanak Bla- 
d«o«B I fauriorcm. VeaolUa, 1E9T. 

Tbe most interestuig porlioa of the boole coasista 
of tbe pUtei, twenty-tiro ia snmberj wbiob „ 
tbo instrameiits used in tbe operalioa, and alao i 



146 



NOTES AND QUERIES. f«* s. x. am. as. 'si. 



Ihe (lotdtU of (he opcratioD, tb« ligatures, ice.; 
which ore exceedingly carious. The operation in* 
reprcMDteii ia briefly this. For a "dympathetic 
SDonfaslip of skin is cut out of the inside of 
the arm, between the elbow and the shoulder, hot 
left adhering to, or rather not ont off from, the 
foortb side. The oppostta cod ii brought into 
conjunction with the snout, or tip, &c. , ra the case 
may be ; and the hand is pulled over the head. 
The patient is clad In whit leemii to be a tigbt- 
filtinj; Jacket of lealher with a hood, and with 
apertureH fur the enr?, but withont sleeves. By an 
ingenious system of stmps and thongi the nrm ta 
80 secartd u to bo rendered immorable. Thus 
there was no fear of tbo conjunction being dis- 
turbed. But. ftccnrding to thin process, the 

"brawny pjirt" of PortAps could not have 

been arailable. EouaifD Watertok. 

[A. copy of this icsrco work was not very Innfr ftfo In 
the powttion of Air. Julm Wilson, tookKller, of Kins 
WillUi Street] 

Admiral Trout. — We InuRh at the French 
joQmnlist* who writo of Sir Wellington, Sir Peel, 
nnd Sir Gladstone, but happily such mintakeH hiive 
not obtained a place ta the litemlureof the country. 
The Dutch laugh at us, for we liave for more than 
two hundred yearn perpetuated the error of pre- 
fixing " \'«n " to the name of Tromp. It is, per- 
hapy, vain to hope, after such constant "snge, to 
correct so jutent a blunder, but at any rate it may 
bo worth the trouble to attempt it. There can 
be no bettor eridenoe of a man's name than that 
afforded by a monument erected to his memory 
by the government of his own country. I nra 
indebted to the courtesy of Mr. Yennint;, late 
Professor of English Literature at the University 
of Utrecht, for an introduction to Dr. C, de Wilde, 
Advocoat'Notaria of Utrecht, who has procured 
for me a copy of the epitaph on Tromp's tomb in 
the old church at Delft. Jt is as follows:— 
Aetemae Memorise 

Qui Batavos, qui virtutem ac rerotn kborem animi, 

1''^ ftO lufT*. 

Batavne ffentU decui, rirtutii BL-llicac rulmen, 

jacet, qui rivus nun(]u<tin jscuit et JTnp«rator<-m 

staateai mori dolero fxocnt'Io buo ducait, amor 

tilvinm, hoftium torror, Occant ttapor* 

MarlitiluH Hnr]i*-rti Troiii))iiu. 

Qqo nomine plures ontinmiur laui)e>, qoam hie lapii 

c«tiit, taoe anguatior ei ; cui tichola Orieni ct OccldcU) 

mare, materia triu'ii|j>)orum, univarsui ortia tlicKtrtim, 

ti\orite fuit, praeilohum certa pcniic'iM, Conitnercit Mix 

uwertor. fanuliaritiite utilif. non vills, poftqium nautas 

at mililei durum Kf-rtuii pit'-maet cum rlficacia Iwnif^ftio 

Rcsil Imperi'i. poit I4 proc'I'L '■ ^ ■; %»t pars 

niacTm, po>t iiKicnsB lupra 1 i ■uinnu>« 

infra a<«ricum botMrM, tnn •-<i tanlttni 

mn victor eerte inrictus X Aug. An. AorM Ctiristtanae 

ciotxiixi. 

Act. I VI .i--.^.^ ,:.,.-.. .l^iit. 

I'oiderst' TT10 mertto 

M >.' ) 

B^ Una tMiimony ii appear* that tb* Moao of tho 



dto 
onus 



celebrated admiral was Martin Tromp. "Harperti^ 
Is the translation of ibc Dulcb form " Harpetf^'^ 
2000" = the son of Harpert. His son, OomeIi| 
Tromp, Earl of Salisbury, ties beneath tbe 
monument. Pepys, in his Diary, under date _ 
May 15, lGGf>, makes a singular error in regard to 
the locality of this monument. He tbya; — 

'MVe returned to (he Hn|n>s We uot n ttoy of 

town to ifu along with us, and lie aboired a» lite citlip 
wbcrc Van Tromp li«s intorabcd wlib a ver* 6no timo 

mcnt Prom thenc« to the RraAt cliunli, that ilandi 

in a flue urcnt markst-place, over aifaia«t tlie SlaJt- 
boass, and there I saw a itately tomb of the old Prince 

of Orange bere were very Hat organs in both the 

eburclies." 

Now this describes exactly the situation and cha- 
racter of the tnro monuments in the old and new 
churches at Delft respectively, and it is probable 
that Pepys (who calU Tromp iudifferently Van 
Tromp, Tromp, and Trump) mistook the locality, 
owing to the very short distance between Delft 
and the Hague. Huou (hvey, F.3.A. 



rtiii- 

i 



"PKTtTfl MAiTBrs." — I have just come across 
the fullowing in Seward's Aneckotfi of Duti^ 
guiihtd Persont, vol. it p. 144 (1706): — 

"The term PiliU yfaUra was flrit appllsil i« 
Prince of Cnndi nnd hi* rillowcm, who, flimlicil witli 
victoriei of Leni. hv , wliJult he [tic] tiad jcainvJ, on t 
reiuni frura the nrm; to Pari* i^ve tliPtn»lvp« a 2 
nianv air*, and nero iusufferatly impertineitt and 
trouolfls-imc." 

If this is oorreot a considerable change has noma 
over tbe spirit of the phrace as It is now oaed by 
English speaktrs and writers, 

£. OvfiuaH Bnswift. 

"TnS »00V 19 MADI 09 ORKV onSMK.**— 
This is aUo fonod in Swedish, *' MAnen skall 
hlifra en grna ast fiirr iiu du kan gora"!::" The 
moon ahall become a green cheese Iwfore yon can 

do " R. a. Ghirkock. 

Hel|[oIond. 

PoRTIlAlT OF THK PiRaT DCOHRAfl OF BhcK' 

IKGUAM.— On a recent visit to Iliiucwell HaJlj 
near Richmond, in Yorksbiro, the seat of Co 
Wade-Oaltoo, a noble portrait of tbe Ducbesa 1 
Buckiugh:Lm, by V.-iodyck, was shown me. She 3 
depicted OS a majestic woman, in a standing pu«tu| 
three-quarter length and life-sized. Tliin uiust f 
tbe wife of Oeorge Villiers. first Duke of Buckir 
bam, who was osiaaetnated by John Felton at Por 
mouth in 162ft, Sir Antony Van 1 ' 
At (Jiifttle Asbby, the tent of tho ^ 

n""'"'-, '- "V 3 reinnrki'l 

• —of her 1. 



iiewbname Reetory^ Woodbrutge. 



(SnS.X. AO0.23, 'Si] 



NOTES AND QUERIES, 



UT 



I ffltut requeal eorrespon-lflnti <leiirinc lofonnntioo 
1UI7 raalt«n or only prtrtt« interait, to %&t their 
I and addrauM to their queries, in order that the 
I nuij be mddrewed to them direct. 



SnAESPEARiAKA : ToB LoAcu. — The Mlusion 
to this little fish in the pluy of 1 Henry IV., 
1[. i., seeoia to have ereatly pozzled the coiu* 
raeotAtoni. The First Carrier dectnrcn the idd to 
be "the most TilUinoua house \a all London rood 
for fleas: I am bIudk like a teDch." Hereiipoa 
M&looe EDakei a rery bad shot He wye, " Wliy 
likeat«ncb? I kaow nob, nolesa the similitude 
ooDsists in the spola of the leocb, and those made 
by the bite of T^rmin." Erery tisbfrtuao knows 
that the teoob la not spotted at all. But as to the 
loaob— to " breed flea.^ like a loach." Steevens 
roggesta that the fleas were **as big aa u loach/' n 
gaesa quite worthy to stand beside Muloue'e, 
weios that the Ash is commonty found from two 
to four iocbes long. Now-tdays, except to nutu- 
mlista and very yonntf ut]t.'tL>r», the touch in ud- 
kaown; but probably in IShakspeare's liiue, and 
oertainly loof; afterwanls, the strange practice 
existed of swallowin^f loaches whole, and this made 
the fish a familiar object. Niires, ».v. "Loach," 
saya:— "In Tht Trip to tJu Jubilee Sir Harry 
Wildair speaks of loacbeo being swallowed whole: 
*to swallow Cupids like loaches,' This la curioniily 
iUastraled by Mr. PeDoant, who says lliat this 
fish is frer[uent in a stream near Amesbury, where 
the sportsmen, through frolic, swallow it down 
whole in a ptass of wine. See DoDovan's Fiihes, 
pi xxti." The editors of Nares (IH5D) here add 
within brackets, " Xares is mistaken in this ex- 
planation. A loche was a solid form of medicine, 
to be swallowed by fluckiDg.** The cditon give 
no quotation in proof of the word locha mcaniu^ u 
form of medicine. They probably confused it with 
loch, or tohoch (with a hard c), which really was 
the old name for a kind of electuary. The swal- 
lowing of loaches survived till Swift's day, for 
towards the end of the Af emoiVi 0/ P. P. , Cltrh 
of Mil Ptiruk, it is recorded that " he had been 
taken notice of for swallowing loaches." There 
remain, then, two subjecl-s of inquiry for Shak- 
speore oommentatnnt. (I) Why n-os a flea-bitten 
. ttan said to be atung like a tench 1 and (2) Why 
was the loach supponed to breed fleas I Perhaps 
I might add, as a third question, What does the 
Carrier mean by saying, "There is ne'er a king 
in Christendom cnuld be belter bit than I have 
been"? Viby a kitig! J. Duos. 

[t>o«i aot the lut phrnM himply ncftn " I hare had a 
TOjal biting." toytU beins ramiliarlj applied to anjthlng 
Mperlatire t} 

Db Bonoif OF MiDiiUKST, — In mojit accounts 
of this family Franco do Buhun 11., who died 



Sept. U, 1S72, is said to have married Sibyl, 
daughter of William de Ferrars, Earl of Derby. 
There is one authority, however, viz., Thomas Milles, 
who, in his Catalogve of TJonour, 1G1(>, asserts 
that his wife was Sibyl, daughter of William de 
Kyme by his wife Maud, fourth daughter of the 
above William de Ferrara by bia wife Sihyl Mar- 
ihall, sister and coheiress to Ansetm, Rirl of Pem- 
broke. Which is the correct account, and where 
tlid MUles set his information from I 

D. G. C. E. 

Ditxxia — Is there any evidence that Dennis 
wrote the epitaph on Samuel Butler that D'lsroeli 
published, for the tirat time, in his Ourtofitwi of 
LiUratur*, L 210? D'Isrueli evidently was not 
8ure, for he says, " If it be Dennis's, it umst have 
been composed at one of bis most Inctd momenla." 
Where did D'laraeli get it from I He does not 
say. There is one strange line:— 

'* Ue iros a whole *i>ecie8 of poets in one." 

C. A. Ward, 

llKvcrHlock Hill, 

CoD3CH OR OoDAon. — What is a codoeh ? In 
old MS. accounts of Sir Alexander Maxwell I ftod 
it freq'iently. Thus:— 

Jiin. 7, 1713. To Thomas Little, in full of his oodoch 

•old tllil yrkr. Sj. 

Jan. A. 1714. To Alex. Bnitnsj'fl wU*. as price of a 
eu'litcli liought (S/. Bcota monev), I81. Ad. 

Feb. 10, 17U. To Arobbsld Monies in fall of bii tno 

eodacbs, pries 9i. id. 

I think it is old Scotch (Gaelic) for some kind of 
farm stock. Hbrbbrt MaxwkLI.. 

Lord Mator's Basqubttno Hottsr. — Tn an 
old map (1764) I find the above marked on the 
old Tyburn Road, just within the three miles from 
the standard in Cornbill, and at a spot near where 
Stratford Place now etinda. Can any of your 
rcttilcrs give mo, or refer me to, information re- 
apecling this banqueting houw} 7 J. J. 3. 

Sir John Berhard Bosanqcbt. — It is staled 
in Foas, voL ix. (1864) p. 151, that this judge 
"published without bis name n Lttler of a Lay- 
man on the connexion of tho prophecies of Daniel 
and the Apocalypse, embodying in a smill coinpaaa 
a grvat amount of roscarch." Can any ooe tell ms 
where I can see a copy of this work ? 

G. F. R. B. 

Thentofork. — In a book pnbliahed 1785 I And 
this word used for " before then." " Bishop Atter- 
bnry had thentofore written largely," &c. (Disney's 
Life of Syki*). Was the word one in common uso 
then or " thentofore " i G, L. F. 

pDRCRAfi'3 " MiCROcasJCDS." — I bavp a copy 
of this work, bound in vellum, which answers in 
pogcB and dale to the description given by 
Lowndes's liibliographer't Manttal of the first 



148 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 




[;«u>8. X.Airo.S8,'8i. 



edition, 1619, bnt instead of beiag 8ro. tiid 12au>. 
Jfl this & niifttakc in LoTrndes? H. GibSOK. 

Duenoi Ajrrei. 

Btetko* or Staihor Court, DBorrwicn.— 
Cab ad; on« state in whose possessioa this houne 
(now demoIiBhcd) was about tbs middle of the 
seventeenth century 7 Johm MtBxx>tTtu 

C'bettcrficid Lodge, SydeDhAtn. 

Broskk FiotTRie or Soldher. — T have a bronze 
fi^are of a soldier — French, I think— on march, 
with child in knapaauk. I think there is a tale 
connected with it. Any ioformation aa to tbia 
will greatly oblige. Wk. Pauikr. 

Pblusov akd Lovelace.— PeliiBOQ imd Love- 
loco wera oontemponu'ieB, boib of the seventeenth 
oeotury. FeliBaoa was sent to Ibe Baatille, and 
Lovelace to prison by the Laa^ PorliameDt. In 
prison Lovelace wrote tho following well-known 
lines : — 

*' Stone walla do not a prison make. 
Nor iron bars a cage ; 
Slitids innocent and ijuict take 
Thftt for a bormlto^t," 

PeltsMn wrote on the walla of bis cell : — 
" DoublM grlUn k gros clouz, 
Triples portal, forts verronz, 

Aox &nies vraiment mecbantss 
Vous rf'pr^setitex ronfar ; 

Mail aai amm iDnoctMitcS 
Yousn'ftea qao du boti, da pierres, du fer." 

That one of these is borrowed from the other there 
can be little donht; but which is tho copy und 
which U the original? The third and fourth lines 
of the French version look like on mnplilicatioD, 
and certainly are no improvement. 

£. CuuuAU Brkwxh. 

Mr. Johk SiVAOK, OF THE Ikher Tbuplk, 
ie&4-170a.— Seo his Moral Kunyg, at the end of 
vol. ii. of tho Muc^Uany Etinya, by CbarUs de 
MarfEuetpl de Saint-Denis, Seigneur de St. Evre- 
mood; also his transUtions of various French. 
Italian, and Spanish letters, dialogues; of T/i« 
Comical Worla of Mont. Sainon; of Th* Art of 
Pntdeuct; and of 2Vi« Life of Q\tsman iFAlfa- 
rache : or, (Ke ,Spani$h Ilogue, I reijuire biogni- 
phical pnrticulara of him; also datC'i un<) pi ice* of 
birth, bnptiiut, uiarriage (1), death, aod burial. 
If be had a wife and ubildren what were their 
Dftmeil C. Ma5oh. 

20, Bmpsrors Gate, 8.W. 

ARita or pKunnoKR Colijeob^ CAMiiRiKoa.— 
The uruis of the above oollp);o are (rMe*r«lly 
bUzotit * " ' 1 ■ ' 

leU I,-.! 

A chief Oi 11 (a>.i<-i 11 iiiri.'i: ;: < 

blazonry X oannot rcmncib? hi 
iodeedf from haphaard worL. 
itird^/two^irotbenunebliaonry. In Le Keur,<^m- 



bridge, and Woodbom't Applimium of Heraldi 
piibliahed by the Cambridi^e Antiquarian Sociei 
1811, it is blazoned as above, drtcr (hnrdly 
nuthority) bl.-txocK it, Rurry nry. and n/., nn orb 
martlets gu. dimidiated with vair, three palcts ( 
In the mapa of Camden and Speed, 10 10, I find 
OS at present, while Monle appears to follow Cari 
All these agree with respect to the coat of Valence ; 
but taming to older authorities I cannot find one 
to uphold thin blAxonrr. 

In the Colo MSS., vol. xlvt. p. 368, aakeleh 
given of tho seal of Denny Abbey (Wifs Cla; 
Hiiiory of WaUriHac}^)', here tho arms are cle:i 
Arg., four barsoz., an orle of martletsgo. dimidiai 
with vnir, three pxtets gii. ; not Gu., three pulett 
vatr.os now shown. Aipiin, from the same MS-, ^^ 
a roll of arms Ump, Edward I., " Lo Oonte j^l 
Pembroke "is painted Arg.rfiva bars ax., and in t^H 
Osmden Roll, "N. & Q.," 6" S. viii. 42, "No. 
116. Will de Valence," I Und, Arg., four bars 
an orle of nine martlets. Thia, as I undersLind 
is a description of the painted shield iitonlir^ni 
by the writer. The blazon appended slii^htly ditreii^ 
" Muasire Will de Valence leacii burole de i^tar 
et de arge't od les merioz de gales," Tl 
hlutonry seems to be tho only old authority t 
I can turn to to warrant the barry of ten now goo 
rally given. I should bo glad of some autbo ' 
for the three palets rair on the femme side, 
notwithstanding three centuries of use, the ual of 
Denny Abbey, a. p. 1013, as ^iven above, 
pretty conclnaivo. The arms were probably gran 
or oonGrmed in the Visitation iCi7&, which 
never been printed, and to which I have not 

Charles L. Bilu 
Clieslertoa Road, Cambridge. 

Portraits op Bishops or Licn?iKLD.— Con 
any of your readers kindly inform mo if there are 
any pictures or engravings still in existence of the 
following Bishops of Lichfield : John AtunJel, 
149B ; Geoffrey Blvth, lfi()3 ; Rowland Lee (Dean 
of York), lCr34 ; Richard Sampaon (Dean of St. 
Paul's ond BUhop of Chichester), 1536 ; Ealp^ 
Bayne, 1554 ; Thou, Benlham, 1660 ; Willi< 
Overton, IfiSO ; Robert Wright (Bishop of Brist 
1032; Accepted Frewen (A.rcbbishop of Yorl 
1044 ; ThoB. Wood, 16S<». J. K Ktni.s 

8l. John's, UohSali. 

KsocKATOccnix. — This is evidently an It^ 
place-name ; but where, in what coanty T 

P. S. P. CUXKB 
130. Soath Glglitesnth Strest, PhUaJelphU, Pa. 



one 

i 

lett 

■M 

No. 

:1 

i 




I book, bai the Ic^ty of the eloeUon wai^ it M«ms, 



eu & JL Aud. 2S, ^84.] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. ^^^ 



149 



I 



dinpnUd, and the following allustoa to it !n tbe 
Common? JourtxaU^ when the matter came before 
the Ilonse, proveii in this instance the accuracy 
of Willis ; " 16 Mtir., 1620-1. Resolved thol the 
election of Mr. Seorelary and Sir Thomas Went- 
wortb in good." My qneation is, Who wero those 
membera T No " Francis Pearco " is to bo found 
io my list of Secretaries of State, There were, at 
Iea»t, two contempora^ Sir Tboiiias Wentworlh.t, 
the one, **Kntv and Bart," oftenrarda the cele- 
brated Earl of Strafford, who sat for Yorkshire ia 
Ihia Parliament, but may have been elected aUo 
for Minehead; the other, "Sir Thomas Went- 
vorili, of North Rlnuud, Knt," who was twenty- 
two years old in 1GI2, and may have been knighted 
before 1621. V. 

Callis. — Wh.it is tbo dertration and meaning 
ef the word eailis, of which there are three at 
Btamfonl ; viz., Snowdon's Iloapitnl, or St. John's 
Cidlja ; All Sainta* CXiUis ; and WiUiumsou'a 
Oftllis ? Each oF those callises conatits of a cer- 
Uiii nomber of rooma for poor women. 

OXLXE BT AODAX. 

TnK "SuTTA NiPATA."— Mr. Lilly, 'va Ancuni 
lUli^n and MoiUm Thmtght, p. 2(J5, cites, as 
being pictured by Gotania the Kuddho, a descrip* 
tion of a monk Kok&liya in hell : — 

** Of whom we roid in tlio fiutta JVipaia, condemned, 
for tpiakinc «ril of tho br«tbrcn, td the Padatna hell, 
where the wicked are beat"n wUlt irf>n hammer*, and 

boiled ID iron pots and where tlicir tortDenls tatt 

£13,000,000,000 times as loni; as il would take to clour 
awn;r a targa load of tiny aesaniani (ec<l, at tbo r»U of 
OB* Med in a hundred jeart. This appears for»li;n to 
th« teachlns of Buildlia, who, it would aeom, rcc<>gniie4 
no bell, but tlie T^riuus furms of exUtcnce on earth. 
As bis (liectplo Schopenhauer puts it, ' Tbis world ii 
hell, anJ men are partlv the devil and partly the tor* 
tured souls.* " 

Possibly Mr, Lilly is quoting the ghastly creation 
of the brain of some hereticil Buddtiist or faoiiticnt 
Brahmin. I should like to know what is the 
HuHa Nipata, I do not see it mentioned io 
Max MiiUer's JJviory of Ancient Samkrit Littra- 
t^t. W. G. 

Scrorpics.— The books of Caspar Scioppius 
were burnt In Paris nnd London by the hangman. 
Bat in London he was haDited in effigy in 1GI2. 
On Tower Uill, or when J By what authority i 

C. A. Ward. 
Haverstook OIU. 

LAtJDBR,— Ctin any of your re.ideni tell me the 
origin of the name of Lnvider, or De Lawedre, as it 
WHS written in tho earliest records of the name } 
A grilHn segreaot was csrried by this fiimily. 
Does this throw any light on the origin of the 
[ family, and what is ibe sigulticution of the emblem 1 

J. YoujfO, 
Obsgow, 



Glko, Lowland Scotch for Horse-fly. — 
What etyiiKilotsy does Prof. Skeut sujfgest for this 
common local word ? Janiieaon, in his i^cottith 
DicUonaryf mentions tho Danish klaeg, tabanii?. 
No one can look at a horse-fly, stiokinf; his head 
down and his tail up, witboat thinkioK of ding. 
Hkbbkrt Maxwelu 

"Major Brown." — Can any one send me a 
copy of some witty lines called *' Major Brown," 
which, I am informed, appeared in one of " the 
annuals " in 1820 1 L Wray. 

Tho OreenawiLj!, Lcamingti>n. 

Anna OS Seal. — I have an impressiou of 
the following seal, and should bo plad to receive 
some information respecting It : Gn., two lions 
pass. arg. ; crest, the Stanley engle and child ; 
motto, "Sana changer." The Duko of Athole 
quarters tbo arms for Strange, but, of course, it is 
not his crc9t and motto. J. H. 

VoTAQiE or Pbixob OnAiix.RS TO Spain.— Can 
any of your readers, conversant witb the roreifica-^ 
tioD of the period, inform me if the following is ~ 

Srint, and where f There are several verses La mj 
IS., but I only give tho opening lines : — 

" Tcr/ej nppon, Prince Chartis hit Voyage far Spavu on 
Fthr.. 1622. 
" What lodden change hsth dnrkt of lat4 
The glory of the Arcadian State 1 
Tho iloapie flocks refofe to food, 
TUa Inmbcfl to ptajc, ttio Kwcs to breed. 
The Allftift nniDake, the cffrinj-es burnc. 
Till Jack and Tom doe safe rflturne." 

F. W. 0. 

Staitdard in CoRNniLt. — Have there been 
two standnrdfl ; if so, from which were the distaDoes] 
measured? Oaei I hare always understood, wafli 
at St. Andrew Uuderahaft, to which chnrcli i 
Cornhill formerly extended. As A boy, I reuiem-J 
hern cab-rnok and milcHtooe opposito St. Peter%^ 
upon Cornhill, and fancy tho distances were 
measured thence. J. J. 5. 

[The watftr atandard with four apouts (lisnos called 
the Carrtfour or Quatre-Voies) stood at iho taat end 
of Comhilt, at Its junction with Gracccburch Street, 
nUbopsgnte Htrcot, and Lcadonball Street. It waa 
creotod b; Tcter Morris, a German, and wai bolicrsd'| 
to bo the emriiQtt instaito* of ralnng water in Bnglaitd ' 
by means of an artidolal forosr. It was impairs by 
the groat ftre, and wu rinnlly rouiovod July, 167i. So4 
a-^ S. i. 4SS.1 

ScDAACE, Art rsT.— Prefixed io the first rolume 
of Churchill's Poetical irorjfe* (Aldino edition, '| 
1866) is a portniit of the author, after a palutinjj 
by Schanck. Where can I find a notice of this i 
artist ¥ His name does not occur in BrynoV' 
Dictionary, by Stanley, 1S49 ; nor in Redgmve'a 
Artiit4 oftht Engliih Stkoolt 1878. Jaydke. 

[An Inquiry concerning thii artist, tO which no acawer 
was received, appears 5"^ 8. h &3.] 



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PEATS OF SIR CLOCDESLEY BUOVEL, 

(G"' S. X. 88.) 

The Bbip AaaocUtion, with Adminl Shorel, the 

comaiikndeMn -chief, od bo&rd, tttruck on ceriaia 

rooka near tho Sotlty IiUndo, known by the Dftme 

of " Iho Bishop and bia Clerk?/' do the eveniDg of 

rOot. SS, 1707, and Shovol and all on bo&H, beinj? 

^llM^ly 900 in number, perished (*ee Buyer'a 
Anu%U of Qitwn Anne, 1707, p. 241). John 
Tatchin oommonces hij Ohierx\itur of Oct. 25, 
1707. "Th« news of Sir Cloudaley Shovel and the 
Assoi:iation'sbeiai{ li>)t hu quite snnk my spirit*.'' 
I fail to &nd la Cb&mbera's Bwh of Days, iL Qi'i, 

[any statement tbii'^ A^laiiral Sburel pi^riahed in 
tbe great storm of 1703. On the coQtratr. be 
sayip, " Tbe Admiral and part of his Ships anchored 
near tbe Guotlee^ rode oat tbe gale with little 
damage ; but of the Teasels lyiofi in the Downs 
few esoaped." Perhaps the mistake has arisen 
from the fact that Admiral Beauuinnt, who was on 
1>oard the Mary, was lost, with 2ti0 
great storm of 1703. Bojtr {Annali, 
fall details of Uie ships lost on that occasioD. Sir 
Oloadeeley ShoTol was traced after death, in a 
curious way, by means of bis fine emerald ring, 
which a sailor had abstracted from the corpse. 
This K'd to a publio funeral and monument in 
Westminster Abbey. On this the Association is 
represented in tho net of striking on the rock (see 
Dart's Wtaliniiuter Ahhen, vol. ii. p. 80). 

Edwari) Sollv. 



It is obrioQs tbal Sir Oloadeeley coald not hare 
died in 1703, m mentioned in " N. & Q ," ante, 
p. 88, nor in 1705, as recorded iu Mr. Thompson 
Cooper's DicJiimnry, but undoubti'<lIy in 1707. 

When tbe Duke of Savoy and Prince Eujjvne 
besieged Tonloo in July in the year lost earned, 
81r (^oudflsley blockaded tho place by sea ; and 
on retarnlng to EoglAnd, with fifteen ships of the 
line, bis tligship, with two others, owing to nn- 
accoantnble carelossnes?, in the dark and during 
n calm, "ran foul ou tbe rock^a beyond tbe 
Land's Kad known by the name of the Ptabop 
and bia Clerks," on tbe nigbt of Oct. 22, 1707, and 
the crews of the Asaocintion, tbe E^gle, and the 
Romncy all perished. That ** the greatest seaman 
of the Age" sbovild have been shipwrecked in the 
month named is a coincidence, for Walpole states 
*' that Sir 0. Shovel said that an admiral woald 
deserve to be broke who kept great ships out 
aft«r the end of September, and to be shot after 
October." But th« loss of Shovel and all bis cr«w 
bflj bfen atiributfd to an rxceiis hi li<(i]or in 
driokiog their "safe amvnl.' There is uUo a 
remnikabU legend councuti'd with bu fate, and ou 
tbe authority, tot, of bio gntudsbu, the Eul of 



" .Many yours nfUJr tto irrcclt nn ng«\ wnm»n cou- 
(fMtl ti> thu p«ri*b nuiiiikr. ou hat ilo ttlili?!. tint, 
eilikUitol niOi f^tii^u^, iin« man vtUn hutl •m tivcl tlio 
wreck reiohi-tl ber liut. sn I tli it alii! ht'l niur'loreil liim 
io wciirB lliff ruluible pn}i>orty nn hi« iier»"n. Thia 
ytOTtt or vreck -n then produce 1 a rin^ tftkon from tbe 
fituor of hor victim, anil it wka ftft<*rwarla IJ'tiililicd as 
0D« iirvMiibtid toSirCloudi^fh'jrSUrti'v) by L'>ril n«rke)ey," 

Vidf Burnet's O^vn Times, r. 333 ; Dyer's F!nrop«, 
lii. 194; Hone's YMr-Book, iv. 6U-, Katgbt's 
BngUind, r. 333 ; Walpole's L'JtAn, iii. 877. 

UeMitr O. Horx. 
Fraegrove Road, N. 

Admiral Sir Gloadesley Shovel was wrecked and 
drowned off Scilly, Odt. 22, 17i>7. See tho inter- 
efltin}^ innnoifraph on the sabjeat by Mr. J. H. 
Cooke, r.S.A; and, since the ailmlnil was buried 
in Westminster Abbey, r^'ferenca may also be 
made to tbe uaimpeaohable nuthnrlty of Oot. 
Chester {Abbty lUgUUr; p. SGI). Tbn false refer- 
ence of the wreck to tbe storm of 1703 upp-ars to 
have had considerable currency. Thus )[r. Nesle, 

iin bis story of the storm Id Ltnt L*!jnuU, says, " Sir 
Clondeeley Shovel's fleet was daahing to pteoes on 
the Soilly rooki." Bat W. L. is wrxinu in quoting 
'lJi"._\"J!^*''L" Tht SlUilrHl't nnmr,jx 6tiL At that p%ge there 
is no mention of Sir Cloudesley auder tbe bead of 
tbo storm, and the correct account is given at 

p. 66i). These ore the pigM of the original 

editiou ; those of Prof. Browft'a new one are 552^H 

auil u57. O. h\ S. Waiiciks, M.A. ^H 

TfcnegloB, Keowyn. Truro. ^^ 

The correct date of Sir Clondesley ShoTol'a 
death is Oct. 22, 1707. The following exlract^g 
from the Lomion 6'<i»f<«, No. '13l>7 {l>ec. 2U, 1707,^1 
to Jan. 1. 1707/8) is of suHineat Hulhorily, and ^^ 
tbe inscription on his marble monument in tbe 
nave of Westminster Abbey confirms it : — 

" Wl.it«hKll, Dee. l!l. On tho 221 IiisUnt was p«r* 
furoi'J tbs Lnturrineiit of Sir CtoudnUy SttoVal, wliil 
was unrortuiiktcly loat in tbe AMORiKititn on tlte Kocki 
called Die Ilutli<>|i and l?Ieric«. off of Scilly, en llis 2M nf 
October la«t, aud hti Boly takoti up under tbe Kocks ot 
8t. Mory'a." 

The above extract ii quoted, thongb without the 
reference, by Cbamock, Bio<fraphia Navatii, It. 
27. note. 

Shovel was in tbe groat stonu of Xov. 26, 17)' 
hut he fortunately escaped. Tbe Lottdmx Oouttty 
No. 307^ (Deo. £-C, 1703), oonUined tbe follow- 
iog ocoount : — 

" VVLit^ball, tioc. 6. An Eznrecs arrived hbn yet' 
day ill tbe Arinrtiooii from nir ninude«l«f Hbiivat. 



^ 




dated .' 

(lA tbo 'Hiiu. 
babU date. 



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Hniftft Shipi tli« Triuinpli. St. Ottonte, RoyklOttk, 
uia Cuntiiidge, rid out tho St<>rm. oince wlilcti ilicy K--»t 
tn near the Uuntleol, uhcre the Exprcii left tbetii ; But 
the reflt of lh« ttqiudrAii, Tit. tliQ Auoclation, Hu4mI, 
B«renge, fcnil UoneUhire, wera farced from their 
Ancliora, and droTO off to Bm." 

Tbii storm wu at its height between tQidoif^ht of 
Not. 26 and Beren o'clock the next morniiig, the 
wind beioR S.W. to W.aW. 

AcoordiDg to CdmpbeU'a Lxeet ofVu AdmiraU^ 
Shorel wai forced to cnt hin mainmaal by the 
board in order to iktc the ihip from running on 
the Gftlloper, uid all the Teasels with him were in 
mfttd&oger. In my own copy of The SUulntt'$ 
Hume, bearing imprint of 1862, the d«te and cir- 
oanutaDoea of Shovel's death are correctly giTeo. 
Georok F. Huupkr. 

Streatbam. 

Tbcro can bo no daubt thiit Oct. 22, 1707, is tfao 
correct date of Sit Ctoudcsloy Sborcl's dcnth. If 
any evidence ia required to prove the fact, see the 
inscription on bis monument in WestmiDater 
Abbey, given in Neole (1B23), vol. ii. p. 240, And 
The Life and Olorioria Adion* of Sir ClctuUsUy 
Hhovtly Kt., Admiral of the Con/edcrnte FUst in 
tJu Jd^tiiterrunfiiii iStii, who uns itn/ortHnately 
Drotcn^d upon tht Zind of Octuher, 1707, through 
hit Ship (A« Aiaociation sptitting on the Jiockt 
lUflr Sdily in htr Vattnqt from iht Streightt for 
England (London, 1707). In the 1864 edition of 
The Book of Dtiyi, vol. il. p. G23, it ia stated that 
Shovel " rode out " the great gule of Nov. 27, 
1703, " with little damage," and on p. 482 of the 
same edition the date of the admiral's death ia 
given correctly. O. F. R. B. 

The shipwreck and death of this gallant bat 
nofortunate admiral on the night of Oct. 22, 1T07, 
ia abundantly proved by the references to the and 
event in the newap»i>erR of the period, and iu the 
joamals of the ships of his fleet which escapi^d, 
whioh are preserved in the Public Record Office 
and British Museum, as well as in several con- 
temporary publications. How the statement that 
Sir C. Shovel perished in the great storm of Nov- 
ember, 1703, Dould have got into such authorities 
M Chambers's Book of Dayt and Tkt Siudtnt'$ 
SumCf seems inexplicable. 

J. a CooKB, F.S.A. 
I Berkeley, 

Writers leem to vary aa to the date of this rear- 
admiral's death, but the probable date was Oct. 32, 
1707. This is the date given in the Briti*h 
Chronologiat (1776), as also io Smith's iimalUr 
Si*t. of Eng. The former work gives a full 
mooount of tho shipwreck. A Guide to Weti- 
minMUr Abbty, publiahed in 1SS3, in a short 
BOoount of his denth, supplios tho same date. 
Bona, in his Ytar- Book, gives the date as 
Co. 23, 1707, vhile Mr. B. A. Davenport, ia hie 



VicK of Bioff. (1831J puts forward 17<i5 as the 
year. Alfua. 

FoBKiOK MoNCMRSTAL Brassks (C* S. X. 26, 
93), — Your correspondent Asott. states that " con- 
tinental mooiimeDtal bras!ies have received hot 
tittle attention from English urobu.>ologist4," He is 
probably not aware that ao long ago as IH&O, in the 
Archaologieal Journal, vol. vii. p. 287, tho two 
brasses he saw nt tho lihr-iry in Ghent were de- 
scribed by Mr. Albert Way, or thit Mr. A. 
Nesbitt, in several volumes of the Bame Journal 
from IS51, gave descriptions of raiiny foreign 
brasses, or that Mr. W. H. J. Woale, in 1859, an- 
nounced his intention to publish a work on monn- 
mentul slabs and brussea on the CoDtincut. One 
reason that more is nob known of these en- 
gravings is that they sre so few and so widely 
dispersed. L»t August (1683) I added some 
forty rubbings to my previoiu collection of sixly- 
dve, to the list of which be refers in the Proeeedingi 
of tho Society of Antiquaries — a list which wan not 
corrected for the prew by me and has seveml 
errors; and in journeying to get these forty rub- 
bings I went to Denmark and Sweden ; then 
crossed the Baltic to Stralsund.and wont to Thorn , 
in Polond, and to Goescn. Posen, Bresl.iu, and 
Omoow; then to Meissen, Freiberg, NordhauseD| 
Erfurt, Coburg, Bamberg, Treves, nnd Cues on the 
Moselle, tmvcIUng probably Dot less than 5,0()0 
miles. I have rubbings of all tho brasses in St. 
Jacques at Bruges to which Anon, refers, nnd 
five of them are in the list in the Aotiqunriea' Pro- 
ceedings, as are also the two from Ghent. As therit 
are certainly not 2i>0 engraved brasses — probably 
Dot 150 — on the Continent, I have rubbings of the 
m.ijor part, and certainly of all the finest examples. 
Nearly all my rubbings have been exhibited before 
the Society of Antiquaries (the last exhibition was 
on June 2Q, I&&4), and I propose to hare the 
majority of them reproduced iu my forthcoming 
hook on foreign brasses. I shall be thankful to 
Amon. for information as to plnces where brasses 
may be found which ore not in my list. 

W. F. GRKEwr. 

Norwich. 

Rocooj (i«* S. i. 321,356; ii. 27C; vii. C27; 4* 
8. iv, 168, 241; vL 2M; tt»* S. ix. IC0, 271, 376, 
436; X. 10, 54). —There can be ecnrcely any 
necessity for me to reply to Misa Bosk's and Ma. 
Ward's notes. I have LittnJ, Scheler.and Lurcbey 
on my side, and Mi89 Busk, Mh. Ward, and 
Sir J. A. Pictqm against lue. Let the rcadeni 
of " N. & Q." choose between the opposing forcw. 

The so-called reduplications given by Miss 
Bosk and Mb. Ward are most of them no re- 
duplications ati all, ia the sense that I understand 
the lost syllable of roeoco to bo a reduplication of 
the second; whilst Lhose that are reduplications 



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C**B.X.Aoo. US/8J. 



hare ouly two, and not three Rjllitblcs. To rococo, 
nccordiog to my view (and, iadceJ, nccorJiDg to 
MissBcsk'b), the loit Bvlbble cuhm intoitionallt/ 
been undo ideDticul vUU the «eooQd. In such 
words A& nOH'i, milUti, ami prcuntixta the laat 
nTlIfthld &nd that preceding it arc tbo same, but 
tQcj have not been made iDteDtioniLlly the eutue. 
Nonvs in Litia stands for novimut (io VitDicek 
t«lls us), and in pratnUxta the real tenniootion is 
nta (aa in trovata), nnd cot lata; UmL in, the first 
t or lata is acoidento), and h&s nothlog to do vitb 
the secoud. And so in mdttU tho first te is only 
iccidealally the Mine as the second te. 

An for Miss Busk's derirfttioa from haroccOt 
hftN she re:d1y ever considered what this involves ? 
First, the initial sylhible ba txm^t be ntrnck oif, 
then one of tbo c'i struck out, nud, Iiistly, tho eo 
redaplicikted. Surely tbid ia inBoitely more diHi- 
oiilt tbnn the derivation from rocJiiUe, and I am 
ofmid that no one but Miss Busk is likely to 
■ccept it^ And, oKatn, it seems to me that, in 
iipite of her knowledge of French, Miss BcsK bus 
overlooked the fact that barocco already has its exact 
equtTAleot in French, both in form and meaoinp, 
TU., baroqut. Why, then , should it have a second ? 
Besides this, I ultodclhcr deny that barocco in 
Italian and rococo in French have the same mean- 
ing. TUiroiCO in Ital. and its eqdivaluDC harotiut 
in Frcnuh may bo apj^ied to any cxtr&rngaot 
■tjle ; whereas rococo^ in ita original nnd strict 
KBse, is applicable to ow style ouly. 

F. CnABCB. 

Sydenham HDL 

Call150 OirtTRCHES jfter CHnisTuw Namm 
(ftf S. ix. 4S0; X, 32).— The church at Poynton, 
in the Cbenhire parish of Presthury, was, 1 believe, 
dedicated to St. Mary in the thirleenth century. 
In 1788 a new chnrcb in lieu of it was built by 
Sir Georjie Warren, and he had the new church 
consecrated by the name of St. George in bononr 
of his own name. But although the bishop was 
obliging the incumbent wa^ not so; he (us I nm 
infornied) wrote in the parish register a protest 
against this change of dedication— an ineff'ectual 
protest, for the church, with another which Ins 
succeeded it, Is stilt spoken of as St. George's. 

A. J. M. 

SnAKBPKARC's pLATS (6^ S. X. 68). — Mfl. 

VrvTAH will find the followloifavery iiaeful book: 
^n AiUmpt to Ddcrmint tht (Jitronulogical Order 
i^f Shaiutptare'i Playi {the Harnexs E«ioy, 1S77), 
byth" R«v. FT«ury Pntno Stokej, B.A. (London, 
M> *■ PP- xvi, S'jo ; uud also 

t» ■/, by F. a. Fleay, M.A. 

(UiiU'tn, .-niicunu.m ic Co., 1&78), pp. xxiii, 313. 



Wcist Thomson, rector of the parish of York, Pa, 
from 184D to IfifiC, died Aprd 17, 1870. and was 
buried April \'J at Prospect Hill, YorK. by the 
Kev. U. W. Spiddin;^, D.U- E. G. Kkkx. 

Wwwicii, Ultester c.i., Pa., 0.S,A. 

The Rev. Charles West Thnmnon died at Yori 

Pennsylvania, April 17, IS'O, ajjed abwit ei;;htf^ 
onn ypnn. J. H. 1). 

LAncaeter, PcnnfjrlnuiU. 

PniKCKSs PticAiiusTAit (0"» S, ix. 603; x. 3fl 
13:*).— A full description of the painting of Po 
hontai will be found at p. cxxxvi of tlio reprint 
the iVorks of Cupt. John Smith, PrauUnt 
Ktrf/itii* and Admiral of iS''ciy Hnyland, bein| 
No. la of "Tho KiJ^lish Scholar's Library," edite 
by Edvrard Arber. 

EVKaARO HOMB CoLBUAir. 

71, Brecknock llo*d. 

Date of Fftm (B'* 3. t. e9).-Tbe J?.U it 
quired after >iy G, B. is no doubt that of A<ig. 1 
1814. Two of the great ottroctiona of tbis/ll^ 
were tbo illuminsttHl bridge and pai^oila in St. 
James's Park, and tho abam naval rii;ht on the 
Serpentine in Hyde Park. A full description will 
be found in Larwood's Story of iKe London Park*, 
1831. pp. 243-349 and 481-464. In tho Ora* 
Collection^ now in the British Ntu.ieum, there ni 
leveral Tiews of the Uluminntions, iacluding do 
of " The Ohineae Bridge and Ri^oda ereclpd i»crui_ 
tho Canal in St James'a Park for tbo Illuming 
tioD, Aug. 1, 1814." E. 8. D. , 

The national jubilee on account of George II 
entering tho fiftieth year of bis reign wiis in 180 
and not, as O. B. states, ISIO. There was a gra 
display of fireworks in St, James's Park on Aug. 
1814, in celebration of tbi? general peace, when tl[ 
pagoda bridge erected there by Sir W. Cougru^ 
was burnt. See liaydn's l>Ut. of DatiM, $.% 
"James's Palace, St." Frbdk. Eulr. , 

Tho dale al>out whtob G. B, inquires is 1814, 
when there were great rejoicings in Loudon in 
consequence of tho peace when Napoleon was sent 
to Elba. I am old enough to remember the bridge 
with its pngoda across the water in SL Jamea's 
pjirk, then a atraight canal. The pngoda wa» 
il';iiiiin;iliMl from top to bottom With lauipo ; by 
inr.tjcmcnt it tottk lire, and bcfftme a 
1 .?r of Hume. Two of the men who were 

t-nguged iQ letting off firewocka from the lop lot* 
their livts. J. Caus-ick MouBC 

''A limllRr «i1iIbitio» took |tlsce on lbs 1st 

Anjiif.t, tYlJ, In till' t^.^tlH|tl h.-!inur of tttr ^ir 



" M'iOJf <Ct'' S. ix. 447>.- I 
I' to Mii. IwLift, and hnvv ! 
:ucJ Itic Igiloiving fflct*. Tb« KeV, Cborlttt iouu and vii»i(l<""i "•I'l **"'* uaujj vi mutio sO 




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Ttriotn itarto. Diirtnf Die nft«roooa « b*Iloon 
Mtdvd from St. Jtmn'f Pork, ami ttirni wu k luu- 
tnMk^ on lb« 9*rpentiae tivtr."—f^nUon, hj Sbulto 
UlAeabru Percy, Lontlon, 1S23, rot. lit. p. 214. 

From tlie detfcriptton FHTi^n. there can be no 
doabt that the pe8C« and jubilee festiritien, which 
took place in the ihree park* duriiiK the first week 
in Aaf,Tist, 1814, are referred to ia the letter, 
Fdr nil account of ihis/et/, see Lorwood'a :itoiy of 
tke London J'iirk$, vol. i. pp. 300-7, Tol ii. 
pp. 2tIl-5 ; anil ^tmuui Ittpsler for 1814, " Chro- 
nicle," pp. 07-7(K 0. F. B. B. 

r NT or "HoRaiKo" (G" S. x. 47X— 

If ' yoar correxpondeot means the prac- 

tice oi iij.iiinMD}> n boy wlio is to be flogged on tho 
bftok of aaothfr, I can certify that the cuulom was 
oburred at W<Htiula»ler when I was there {I8i6- 
1&61). JoQS I^ Shadwiix. 

LvrTKa riK Biit<JA»iy Frascus (0** S. x. 68). 
— I bcliere tbo letter indicated bj EsTi to b« 
eenoioe. In the ponession of my family is a 
uAttr from Franklin written to my f^ndfather, 
Dr. Daniel Koaez de Tavorez, ao eminent 
phyiician of Zwollc^ Oreryssel. As it may in- 
Miwt Bome of your readers, 1 forward a copy: — 

Pari*. Jan. 4, 1773. 

Sb^^Thc Kccoant jcWen In the NefrBpapen of my 
bavinK famiihed the Pliyaiciani with a receipt aitainit 
the Dropty iia Mistake. I knnw nothing of it, nTdid I 
•?er Urnr before tbit Tolncco Ashei bad any lucb rirtua. 
I ibanl Tp'i for jnur kind oneraiutntlont on our tat« 
tnectMCS a)i>I good rtithct for the Eitabllilirapnt of nur 
Llbarty. I bare tbe bonoiir to be rrBp-^ctfully, Sir, 
your iBo«tobedieat hoiot-li) ServftTit, B. FRisuLiir, 

A Moniietir de Tavarei. Rclfrnear do Ratnar, Docteur 
to Droll et en .M6tJecine, a Ztrotle en Uollan'te. 

I possess also a letter from J. Keckor, Pikria, 
Ju. 3j 1777, also addressed to uiy finindfiithcr 
Freoraick L. 'i'AYAki. 
S3, Tbomu Street. Clieetbam JUII, Manchester. 

IxniCM^IttCEXBs (tr** S. I. 69), — lo the 
Atiunmtm, which professes to represent philo- 
sophy, art, and science, a more technological use 
of words may be allowed than in journals of other 
kinds. Bat probtihly in the AtheiKsum it would 
have been io better ta^te to hnvo employed Ibo 
word xndfT-u in the pisiuitie in question. I think 
and hope that the tise of the word indicet is dying 
oat I ' ' n on the increase. Indtz is far too 
mn lib word now to stand io nay need 

of Li iTi ■: i> ■ ■tiiling') to express its plural. It is 
a pity the Index Society docs not undertake 
sniatj, useful tA*lc«, such m giving complete 
ind*x4» to pnt't-* like Spentor and Chnucor, (iray, 
Collins, &t!. The society will not take up the 
sabjecc-iadexiug of general bibliography. That 
would he a grand eSbit. O. A. WAmo. 

HaTovtoek Hill. 



TnB Camdct Roll (G* S. Tiii. 31, 41, 63).— 
Would tt be too much lo luk Mn. Weston, to 
whom we are indebted for the iibo?o TAluable 
document, to print the notes he tells us he hus 
made "on the names which appear in the roll, 
espeoiftlly on those which are foreign " i I huve my- 
self begun to examine the foreign coats, and think 
there must be much iolcreating and iniportant 
matter connected with thcni and their appcantnce 
in the roll; but it would be mere wiute of time 
for mo io continue this invesligalioD if Mr.. 
Wbstoh will be so good na to place before us the 
reealu of hi*. Take, for iostance, tbia group 
alone, as indicating the praotioe of dilTtfrenoing al 
the time of the roll : — 

71. Cuute de Quynes, VainS or and es. 

73. Ecnaud da Guynes, Vair(! or and az, a lor- 
dure gu. 

230. Sire Ernold dc OuioeSj Valrd or and az, 
n label gu. 

234. Will do Ouincs, Vairu or and oz., on a 
bordure gu. eight bexants. 

S3S. John de Guines, Vair^ or and a>., a bead gn. 

£37. Wiot de Guynes, Vaiiu or and ai., a mut«n 
crm. 

Or, again, who was (194) Will, da Flandreff, 
who, according to the Camden Roll, bore the 
remarkable coat, Or, threo palletJi ax., orer all a 
lion nmipant sa., debniised by a bend gu.l Or 
(210) the Henry de Brabant who, probably ille- 
gilitimto tike tho preceding, changed the tincture 
of tho Bnibaut lion to siWerl Perhap*, at tho 
least, Mr. Weston will kindly Icl us know if he 
has anything to tell as about these. 

Jonx Woodward. 

Last Dtiho Sfskchis (6* S. x. CO).— There is 
a work called, — 

Tbe Malefactor's Remitter; or. New ?fewKate and 
Tjburn Calendar. Conuioing the Aatlienlic blvei. 
Trials, AccounU of Bxeoatlons. Dying Sueecbes, and 
other Curlou Partlealars. relating to all tbe mo«t 
notorious Violat«rs of tbs Laws of tholr Countrr; who 
have ijuffcrcj Dcatb, and other Excmp'nry Puntifa' 
menlj, ia Knglattd, t^cotland, and IraUiiJ from Ibe 
comtnencenicnC of the yuar 1700. to tbs .Miiliommer 
Sesiions of Next Year, &c., einbaltiibod with a most 
elcfcant and iD[)(->rb set of entire Now Copper Plates, 
fliifly ciigniTed frnm Ori(fin»l Dcii|(iii, by Wato, Dodtl, 
■n<l otber«. rriiited, by authority, only for Alox. Hogg* 
No. It;. Pibternoster Aow." 

OOVSTANCB RUBSBLL. 

RecuRDs or Jewisq Birtui (C* 8. i- 70). — 
The circumatoncca conncoted with tho Jewish 
registers liMVo been thus stut«d : — 

" Vnm tlie year \tifi'\ the rogistcrs of birtbi, marrla|«fc 
and dratbs of the Juws have been oorreoUy roads and 
Ciirefiilly proservad. Tbe birth (■ enterstl at tticir cere- 
monial of iiaialng on tlis elgbth <lar ; and all tb« entries 
are mors tuiouts than ttiosa of the Christian Uiorch. 
Tbe committees of the great syntgogou bi BstIs Marks 
and Duka's Place. Aldgato, when appUilALlUtibe oom- 
missioDcrs appointed to miiuire tnil t of the 




NOTES AND QUERIES. 



f^^ax.iNLSs.'M. 



n« lUn of VirOii, Ke^ m 1S3S, Aicibwd te mH viil^ 
their rcfiiitrrt. «1,icli u« kepi U >W IMctV W«H)L 

«n the i:ruutiil tli^it tlMT v« cmUamIS thiUTui 

/or Ou Ofnm!v9iM, i:c^ LoaATUM. ^ ««r^ 
The wrtiScate of birth of Loni BMuoMAeU 
v» given iu the fiKttJMbH^ Apnl S3. 1881, 
wiib thia form of ftnlbonl^. •Vertty Roo«. 

Snahish an.) PoriQ(fnM Jrw.' Syiuigostt*, BatU 
Mtrk^ KC." Tbfft follow the cnt^ la tbt 

register;—" | htnhj certify ibat ihe nboTe ia % 
true eopy of the entry matie' in tbe RsgUlry Book 
of Births kept at the Spnoi^ih ao'l Portugaeee 
Jdw*' Synagof^e, Geris Mnrku, E. II. Liado, 
teoralory, LondoD, April 19, 1851." 

Eo. Makshalu 

Probably the conimttteea of the great !tynai(0|inies 
in BpviB Marks and in Duke'e Place, Aldgiite, 
woull fjive the iuformation ; Iber bare nil the 
register* frum 16G3 (Simi'i J/aiua//i?r tht Oenta- 
logut, pp. 4a7-aj. B. F. Scaiilett. 

Beiin Milman biu menttooed that " the nambcr 
of Jew« in Greftt BritAin vm variously stated at 
from 12,000 to SJ.OOO. They may now fairly be 
reckoned iit 3(),0l)i) in EnKlanJ : but tbJM U nn- 
certdiii. M DO accurate regiater ia kept" (vide HU- 
tory oftheJcKS, 1608). HesrT G. BorK. 

Prci^roTe Grovr, N. 

KisuKTT Family (C* 8. ix. IGS, 400, 483; x. 
56).— I am not £ure wbtcb of the following is the 
exact book to which Mh- Xesbitt refers, but be 
tuay like to bare the titles of tlireo ; — 

Cedercrona, Rweriges RiVpi El<idor*Vapl ocb Adat« 
Wapon Bok. Stookboltn, \7Vi. 

fltlemntan. Hcbblnder »cti Hutlilieb, Matrikel ofnrr 
Swr« Rikui Riaaenkap ocb Ad«l, kc. Stocltbolm, 17&1 . 
(Wiib coTirMiuationi.} 

Mcricitii 'lUcatrum XobilitatU Saecann^ 161G. 
The first in in the libmry of the Briltih Maaeani, 
but I think the others are aoL 

J. Woodward. 
Uontroie. 

Birds' Egos (C*» S. x. 69).— 0. E. 8. will Ond, 
u I have done, the followinK a a.*eful Utile hand- 
book:— BritwA BiVrfj' Eyga and Nesta J^opularly 

' V tho Il<'V. J. C. Atkinson, London, 

(Jo., 18G2 (pp. viii, 1(^2), with tweUe 

• •* (each with m.iny exarriplei<), and n 

■*8ynopllcAl Table of Eri(i!!h Ilreod- 

^au^, phowing sile and 

. .ind dumber, colour, and 

,- . ->» 1* l.ir^o ibeet, 2C in. by 

b., lo a pocket at (he end of ihe volume. 

ESTB. 

"S to be Ro "ashAimire work" on 

-^i Ii a* r, T. S. i,.k. f,,r l„jt be 

.f of 




V..,i, 



«i Um Jitkcifiil^'ihtilM iJrttanHira, arliole 



JrS*Tvf^ (8fa, Viuh, IS4.V loured 

lliud tiiilMtt, Lm4m. Ii>i6>i Bfwwtf. KvrA 
Amtrwm (Mm {iuk. WufatacloB, IBW); T)w- 
sMtmki. (M»7ia ^ImUw Fwl^itk (Bra.. War- 
*aw, 1362): B« Ukw, iMi JKir dff iMre^iedUn 
rSH (W., Lstptls, 1963); WoBey. Oothtta 
FroJItfytt»4 (Sro, LoDdoa. 1564). Tbie «iue 
article, uoder the headiog« ** Nuiifiootioo ** and 
"EjCB*" (pp. 771-775}, cooLiinj a good deal of 
genenl bformation oa the subject. AKFiu. 

In reply to 0. £. S., I hare to lay thAt the b«it 
work on the e^ of BriUnb birds is that of W. 0. 
Hewitaoo, published by Van Voont in 1846. 

Tuos. B. LucKR. 

One of the best books on birds* eges is Bnde- 
keKs Kirr dcr KijropaiicA«n Fojel (Iwrlohn, 18*14). 
Of Englitih work*, Uewitson's is probably tbe bnt, 
Colourci nintlrfitiom of the Egg* of British Bird* 
(London, 1800), present price aboal 4t. 4i. Apply 
to Mr. Wheldon, natural history bookseller, 
Great '^ueen Street, W.C. 

£. Stin>sov-BAticiR. 

C. £. S. will 6nd tmitwortby accounts of foreign 
birds' eggs in Dree's Bir(i4 uf Europe and their 
Bggi (6 vols.), published by Geo. Bell & Sons. 

A. S. K. 

Thk Macoovalds ot Glbscoi (6'' S. x. 28).— 
See;— 

An Hittorioal and GetiMlogical Aoooont uT tbe CUn 
or Family of Macdoitald of CUnranaltl, fmm Sticntrl«tt, 
Kinic of (he Ule». I<Qrii i>f ArgyW and Klntyrf, to tlia 
PrewDi Period. Hi'mK, l.^ld. 8to-. price Kit. 

Ornealoglcit and Historical Account or ttip Clan or 
FHmily of Macdunald uf tSaudi, 1025, Bio., prtTaticly 
prioied. 

These ore referred to by Lowndes, p. 1436, ISrao. 

Ed. Marsbalu 

I would refer J. H. to whAt Mr. Alexander 
Mackenzie says of thia family in bis Hiitortf of 
th* Macdonaldt and Lordi of th« ItU* ([nveroess^ 
1881), pp. 62i-fi. G. F. B. a 

Guar (Cbamut) db David (6** 8. x. 66).— 
Tbi* w.i* uav of the nntues of the " Grande Ourw " 
or " GttSit Bear." We also find " Clior Dovid " 
(without tbe dc)=lhe** CbAriol David ' quoted by 
Mil Wahd. Corap. II6teI Dicn»Uut«ldc Dieo. 
Vhar alone was also u*ed in this sense. See La 
Curne de St Palaye'a Diet., t.v. " Char." It wuubl 
seem thitt this coniitelUt ion - " . - . ' i n cil 
quite r<rc*nlly, atylcd " Li ' Z* 

•• Le Obariot de Duvid," iinu l,- '••< ;. ,.,,F-i '• 

* Id ouutrndiitkiicLi..>ii to " Irfi I'l^tit Cltariut," or I.UUa 

Sear. 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



155 



(w9 Be!ob«r«IIe*B and Luoosse'B DitUf J. v. 
" Chariot "), though Litln^ aim only " Le Ohariol." 
Comp. our St. Ch(itle«'i Wain. Chariot now gener- 
%\\y meatii a kind of cart or wAgf^on in Fr«Qch, 
bat it rorroeriy naeant a chariot (wo Littr^^), as 
might be inferred from onr present uuge of the 
word, and it mnst hure had ibis n)eaning(nri£iiiall7 
at all ereoUt) whvD used, an ubove, in cooaezion 
with King David. Char now (feDerally meaoH u 
car or cbariof, but is ocoasioaallj used in the lense 
of cart. F. Cbakcc 

SydcDham Hill. 

"Le Chariot pATiil " meaDS the oonatelLtlion 
of the Great Bear ; it is soniolimes called " Lo 
Grand Chariot," as the Little Be.ir ta oalted " Le 
Petit Chariot." Cohstanci Rdssell. 

Swallowfleld Park« Afladine. 

Lckb's Iron Crown: Goldsmith's "Tra- 
tsllkr" (6^8. I. C6).— Allow mo to correct an 
error io Dr. Brkwer's note. The king who sat on 
the Bnngarian throne in Vcrhoczi's time was 
DJadisIaas IL Ladistuui IV. died in 1290, t.e., 
more than two cealiiriee before the famous Tri- 
partii^m wim compiled. May I also ask your 
corretpondenl to kinHIy explain whnt he moans 
by the eipreHsion " a jwasant of Zeck " ? 

L. L. K. 

Hull. 

Ooo might almost infer that the writer of the 
note at this reference regards Szvkler as the name 
of a place. It is the Enf^lisb form of Szvkely, 
plural Su'kelyek, a mc« inhabttint; in Tmntiyl- 
Tania a district known as Sz^-kely'old. The hero 
immortalized in Goldamilh's TravtlUr was a 
Siekler^ born at Dalnok, a village in the Harom- 
9ti6k department. He w;u the elder son of the 
Vajda D<i28a Tami» («.«., Thomas Dominic). His 
full designation, ulvtn iu Magyar fasbion, was 
"dalookt Diizia Gjorgy." Mii^takiog bis mere 
noe-deacription for a patronymic, and prc-ienting 
it ID a oorrnpt form, Tubero CiilU him Scytba ; 
Orteliiii>, Zock ; and Ensius, f^eggiiis, I do not 
think that Goldsmith's Luke ia an error for George. 
More probabW it is a misreading, or a mistfKn- 
aeriptioD, of Zeck. DAvsa'a patriotism was o<^r- 
tainly peculiar. The exploit which first brought 
him into notice was a duel with a Turk named 
Ali at Belgrade, in whiuh be slriick oH' the Turk's 
mailed arm, and was rewarded by bis king with a 
bftDdaome property and permission to bear a bleed- 
ing arm on his escutcheon. From the command 
of a troop of horse he viis promoted to the leader- 
ship of a host of B0,()( HI men, raised thmugh help of 
ioduleences by Archbishop Bdkdc?, in 1614, for a 
crusade against Iho Turks. Tbo nobles of his 
country gavo orders lo their serfs and depondeate 
to withdraw from this volunUiry expedition ; 
wbereupoa Dussa turned his force of faaatioal 
peasants sEninst the nobles and the towos, and 



h where 
H peasai 



Imd wosto the possessions of the upper classes, 
until be was defeated and captured at TemesTir 
by the V&jda Ziipolya Jioos. His more than 
stoical endumnco of tortures almost unexampled 
in their fiendish barbarity bos surrounded his 
nama with a halo which his prerioni actions would 
soaroely have conferred upon him. The Diizu 
family, deiceoded from Adam, brother of Thom:i>', 
occupies a most honourable place in TrAnstjlTanian 
history and literaturo. See Benko'i Tranitilvinui, 
1778. ToL I. p. IS5 ; Baron Or^ia's A S-Jk^tj/.M 
Ltirdsa, 186Q-73, vol. iii. p. 184; Tol. iv. p. 2C 

V.H.IXLO.I.V. 

nwsHAW (6* S, ii. W9, 369, 37S. 436, Bll; 
X. 3!), 7B).~I am quite aware that a Hf^nshuw is 
described io ooe of the editions of Burke's Lan<ltd 
Gtntry as alderman and lord mayor; I am equally 
sure that Sir Bernard Burke can give no trust- 
worthy authority fur the statement. 1 do not 
know in what edition of Burke's Puragt 
and liarontla^t the marriaga of a William 
Strickland with a daoghter and coheiress of 
Edward Charles Ilensbaw is giren. I hare an 
edition of 1837 io which no such marriage is entered. 
Palmer was simply an error of a printer, who 
took the final letter for r instead of t. William 
I'alme', the father of the kdy, U sometimes de- 
scribed as of Old Malton, in Yorkshin>. Sir 
Edward Dering, Bart., who died April 15, 1762, 
married for hii licit wife Elisabeth, dau^fbler and 
coheiress of Edward Henshaw, of Eltham, in 
Kent, Esq.; and Sir Rowland Wynnp, or Winn, 
Bart., married in August, 1739, another daughter 
and coheiress of the same gentleman. I suspect 
that there were no more daiighten; if there were, 
I should be glad to hare a note of them to make 
my Uenehaw pedigree more complete. 

D. G. a E. 

PANTOORAPn OR PlNTAORArH (6* S. X. 67). 

— William Wallace, the son of a leather manu- 
facturer, was born at Dysart, Fifeshire, on Sept. 23, 
1TC8. He was at first apprenticed to a book- 
binder, then became a warehouseman in a printing 
oflUce, and afterwards a shopman to one of thaj 
principal tMwkaellem in Edinburgh. During this 
lime be bad been diligently pursuing bis mathe- 
matical studies. In 179-1 he was appointed 
assistant teacher of mathematics in the Academy 
of Perth. In 1803 he was elected to the office 
of mathematical master at the Bnyal Military 
College, then lately established at Great Marlow,] 
Bucks, nod afterwards removed to Saodhuratrl 
In 1819 be became Professor of MaUiematics abj 
Edinburgh L'niversity, which office he retained 
until obliged to retire from ill health in 163B. 
Upon his retirement the degree of I>octor of Laws 
was conferred upon him by the Unirersity of 
Edinburgh, and a pension from the Ciril List by 
the QorernmeDt. He died at Edinburgh, io bis 



156 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



(«•» & S. ADO. 23, *Si. 



BCTcnty - fifth ycnr, on April 28, 1843. Sm 
CbnmbersV Biographical Dictionary of Enxnenl 
fknttmn^y 1870, vol. iii. pp. 4P0 tind 4110, For 
an Account ofChriilopher 8cb«iner fe»> C!hi\Iniorn, 
vol. xxTii. pp. 231 and a3&, and NouvtlU Bio- 
graphic (SiniraU^ tomexliii. pp. 4!)0'£01. For ao 
«xpl:inntio» iind drRcriplion of th« pftntot^Tnph nnd 
oiuogrftph refpcctivoly see Eutjltth O/drpttdia 
("Ari" and Sciences "), and the jirticlo wrillcn by 
Prof. WilLice for the Knyal .Society of Biiubiirgh, 
entitled *' Account of Die Invi^nlion of the Panto* 
crapb, And a Dcscriijlioo of the Eidofcntph." 

G. F. E. B. 

JrnsK Bamsdbn (C"' S. x. C7).— U Mr. Cox 
Bure of hia stuteiuent thai Jobbo Kumidoa was 
"aon-in-Iaw and tueeasor to the coIebnUd 
Dotlotid " t I hnve re4W0ii to Ibink that whilo 
John Dollond, the F.ELS.^ wu Kuooeeded in hii 
biiainesi MtAbliabed in the City by hit aona Peter 
nnd John DoIIond, Jcsso Rtimsdrn, who bad 
niarrifd John's youngeat danfthtcr tSarah. was nn 
optician e.<il:iblitihi>d in Piccadilly. John Kaiusden 
<176B-1811X tbe only one of ht« children who 
HiitviTed to maturity, waa & captAin io the 
B.E. I.e. mercantile marine aervioe, and hia only 
BurYivinH Hon, John George (1S14-41), u barrister, 
d. «.}),, baring married Snrah Burdoltf n niece of 
tho |>opulAr member for Wcstniinstor, Sir Krancit 
Burdett, Bart. Capt. John lUnudflu married 
Mary Biinmondii, or Symonda. I ihoold bo glad 
of the dates of this lod^i marriaffe &od deatb. 

H. W. 

^ew I'nlr. Club. 

Bkx Jomsok (iJ*" 8. it 506 ; x. 37).— Thew 
Latin veraes (*' Temporihus lux ttrnftna," &c.) were 
originally quoted by Mn. Axov (3"* S, riii. lOfi) 
in i>etttcu)cnt of tho diapute reBpecling the spoiling 
ofJonnoii's name; aoit it i« noteworthy that in 
tho edition of Faroaby'a Juvcnnl, 1633. they appear 
to he signed "Ben. Johnsonins,** whilo in that of 
1689 thn sifrnnttiro is " Ben Jonsonius." It would 
be Interesting to know what tho flpellin;; is in the 
6nt edition of 1612. Can aoy correspondent 
mipply this information ? 0. M. I, 

Heachuu Hall, Norfolk. 

Charlm Vb Picrrsw (G* 8. x. 69).— 

There is an article on "Charles T.'s Lore of the 
Fine Arts" in DTsraeli's OuriotititM of LUerabtre, 
pp. 207-301 (London, 1(166), in which there is 
notice of an " Inventory of the Ooods^ Jewels, 
Plate, A.C., bclonKinj; to ICioR Charlet I., aold by 
order of tho Council of 8lat«. from the «ar ItWJJ 
to IC.''2," It i? ttatwl, "Thv i. 
Whitrh.iII, AVindwr, Grecuwn 

■^^ ' 'Ifiltit in mirn'- - 

i, ti. ).). A 

: -iiowiDg fill; ,-u^l:.„ .. L,., - -. ,--,. -., 

ngm were VaJti6d ftt (bese whimtieai pric«i ** (i6., 



p. 300). It ftppean that the cartoons of "Th_ 
Acts of the AiHMtles" were appraised at 3'3<itj 
hut could find no purebuMr. Tbo "luTentory' 
Ib in EUrt. MS. 48D3. It contains tlio pictura 
in Woodstock Manor, besides those in the paluce 
named above. Ku. MjinsaALL. 

OaaoLBTE WoEDs.Ao. («>» S. ix. 246, 405, 478j 
X. 14, 26, 86, l\0).—liun^maJJe was in old lima 
& technical sea term. In Cnpt. John Suiiihi 
Accidtuct for Yoniig ftfo-ffun, 1626, we bav* 
p. 5 (p. 70O, Arber'a reprint), " The ijmtter 
JitfaisUn hrilh the charge of the liold for Btown^^ 
rommugoiog, and triuiuiing the shippc." In Sll 
Henry Maowiiyriog's Sctman't Dictionary^ 167" 
to rttvtidoe is " to remore any goods or luggns 
out of a place (betwixt the Decks or any wbeelejj 
but most commonly we use this word to the re 
moving and clooring of things in the ship's howld, ^ 
so the goods or victuals may be well stowed and 
pl.iocd ; so when they would have this done, thoy 
Kay they will go Burning tho howld." See also 
Hukluyt, I'ojdpM, quoted in Uiohardson's /h'c-^ 
ti<rtiary, i 308 and iii. 68. The word is used iofl 
one direct seoae of room agert, to make (proper^! 
room or stowage. Bd. NiraoLsoH. 

Tns LacB Wirr (0* S. x. 49).— This article of 
dress was worn in the time of Charles IT. See, i.v. 
" Whiak," Plunch<!'8 Cycloyadi'i of Coslums (1876), 
vol. i. p, 6^1 ; and MoUelt's Ulxuiraitd Dieiionary 
of Words mt'l in Art and Archtcolo<jy, p. 344. 
Who does not remember Pepya's note, " My wife 
in hor new lace whisk, which, indeed, is very 
aobl«"? O. F. B. B. 

pEBTiLEycK IX Eholand i» 1581 (6** S. 
269, 317, 377, 430, fllO; x. 58).— Would Ml 
0. 1.. PRINCB kindly lend me the 6rtt volume i 
James Sbort's work, or loll me where I can see itj 
for it is not in tho British Museum OatAloguo. 
wish it the more as Short's statement of th 
epidemics of the tirrat exceeds in namhcr the 
giren by Dr. John Cains, Ba. KlonOLSOff. 

Qae^o's Road, South NormxxS. 

Toi " Wooden Walls" or Old Emolako (6"" 
S. ix. 420, 516).— Whether Wbitelocke was or 
was not the first who applied this ezprcasioa to 
oar men-of-war is a quostion that was asked many 
years ago in •' N, & Q." {l^ S. iii. 268). and 
remains to this day unanswered. One thing, 
however, seems to me beyond all question, and 
that is the origin of the expression ; nor had £ 
ever heard of any other than the on*- 
asaigned to it until I ui«t with a ^' 

' r of tho G\kardiaii uvwupHji 
. which 1 think witl be aa ne 
^f. & Q," as it woa to myselC 
Wooden Walls," after somo 

^ - — v.. wd aowwry, jm, of Hampihire, 

the writer adds :— 



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167 



Ftt It \s rhhcf. 1 hj cPTin'in Immfly fr.riiii 'if nrcW- 



k 
^ 



^K < rttf l>l 'ivo(4«ii w 
'«t fttf pJtnuf i»(U 6(HYf 

^> " '•* of our miry,"* 

Tu 90II10 iotcraslin){ remarks dd the 

pcuuiUvo cliiireb^s, whicli werv il«o built of wood. 
Now it rertainly does deem to be n very poor 
e^- 'Jtboso ^T.ia*l old Oiiiw wljich did u« 

•u .vice ta ibe dujs beluru " iniaclotl*" 

«cr« lluugat of, to oompire tbcm to the tliiniy 
boftrdmj; <h n bihrn or oulboute (lurely the writer 
caanol imn^fie, u hti obM>rv%tionH Mcm lu itnplj, 
tltat tbeie wooden buildiu^>t Hre [K-cu1i;\r to Tltiiup- 
khin I), '^ " " -^" "^I.ich tk bulict Niay be bcoI from a 
l^eolMt ; -, nn thft othrr b&od, nothing 

MVIIU K.„i, .,rkl tban tbftl the author of the 

•KpKiiaion iihould h-ire bad Iq bU Diind tbo w«It- 
known itnhTT^r of tbo oncle at Delphi (Herod., 
tu - bitberto been oomaoDly, and, 

M * /, suppond to hare lagKevted it. 

FniD. NOKOATK, 
QkAVTLET BeDKKLCT A90 MaOISIT (6* & IK. 

430, 490).— The tnditioB rcfejmd to by E. a B. 
dow not Mem to coolimdici the eomoioD aocouDt 
of die dg«l. Blancbard, io hie biognpby of 
l«. R. L , uys that inCuoooi iluiden wen nrca* 
lated a;rvic>«t h^r. Tbe Uoo. G. F. Berlcel^, in 
kia JA/t fnuJ Ji<t>oiteaimu, my tbkt h, & U 
•ullBreil freca MitcfM ftU thei taea'a erU »»tore 
eaa Ittfliel «■ e belpleee iraa m . ll mmm, tWt«- 
f.in, probable tbat L £. L. afpMked t« Berkeley 
for aiH, iket Berkeley openly Lxo nmt d hie iiyi» i e« 
of Hafitna^ and that Mapnm, bceriajp BcrkeWy'a 
opmian, wrM< iki absilv* artkU 'm Ftastr. Tbcn 
feltovad Ike atlK^ «o tke paUiabee and tbe daeL 
SatbaitL. K. L.majkmWntlw inJtwelaeM 
eClbedoeL kL K. a 

1C4BKIAB* <ir JofTT Avmnm (d* 8. x. 401 — 
ftfmthm Atia. fetber ef Jeha AmIm, tivea !■ 
KiiHfe^lMW fW een tiim bilbm ■■4 after 1B30. 
He bad rritrrd Cren ear tmaler 
ittle^fd to eeole for • «Wb eMM 
Jiosdm —4 Liigtwri, to fas iM4y IbreM^fa 
CM* beaav taj wmmOatim lifceiy to bee«aM«- 
KbL Oi«4m Mrtfaiil i tea hmSam far 

kg wee »»■>[■»■ II laili It ^be«B 

mi^m <Bi»wl fa to etof a^ «• IK< 
TkialedbiB to ix bw ii l f tkeee toe e««e fvn. 
■ad Ikeao^ Hie vaiM X beoM aov«lMto4 vtak 



Um. I ftiiiirtij ■etkfaL— 4 Aiitog tke ^ 
tolba torlfe fcA BrfMS M 1 «M eefie« a £7 
vilkavt M^ b^. a Mft be ^4 k«« a 



Irude ftftrr 
bitu tube ri< u i< 
tit bla nieani. 



■pec 
Jail 



mUler. I nercr board bim ineatton ihln invito but 
I wftv led to believe that be In^' «, 

hcfore the dniy wii« (»krit off, rm 

in mlt. Uc oftt^n rpoko of lii« ptrYinui lii'r, nnd 
ititinMoncd b'^ voyii(/oi hcmm the AilftDtlo, Flu 
\nt bud Inded M a rner^'hiitil 
.'} nnd the ITaitnd Stotei. I do 
^ni^ in Ibe way of 
Nitm. I Kuppniied 

r tiji^sr iMiicBj iMit lio tlfTor botialpd 

I Wiu made awaro of vtiv bold 
culati^in he rntidf. After tbo ''three djiyi" in 

aly, 1K30, the French tumU went down bcloer 
65, and be iiirnttftd tAi,m>*iL •ttirWnjg \a th<m. He 
came to me and a nrarrfiliMve to a«k 111 to witnon 
liie elKnoture lo the needful docamenL*. On meet- 
Inji him oc«ulonull;^ aflerwnrd*, anrl referring to 
the daily advaace In price*, we ppoke of tlie 
ibouianda ho hail gained. At on* ttftie he occu* 
piod a 9UI11II but pleoianl biuar, afurwanli he 
went into rery ioeziienKire lodKinjf* ; I do not 
think I erer hiu) a meal in bie oompiuy unUae It 
wm ftt n public dioorr. From bie convpnacion I 
fancy be liked to lire wall lie waa proud of Ills 
eone and of hie daughter In-law. Um lent me one 
of bar (randatiooe, Z think Tk$ Travdt tff FHmm 
FuekUr AfiufaiM. He said kis aoa, Ike aniMBt 
parliatuentary eoooac), waa hie adneet U iMBegr 
mattera. I baTe an Inapreeaion that be kad been 
brouubt np & Roman Catholic; but be bad gireo 
up tba (ailh when I knew bits. He toU lae h« 
bad ef«t bit eeaa to tbe nslvervty to qualify tbe« 
for bety ordeci to tbe Cbofck of Eaglaad u tbey 
dioea to take tkenii, m Iket vea a ebeap a«4 eaay 
way of teUiag into a jmitlenaiilike pn/baAnm. 
Oae «f tCeM Mid, *" I wiH tiy eofaecbtsff e«ee Ink" 
After ba kad M K9tt^|lba» 1 aieC kha accU 
dealaOy to I/mdrs two er tkrae tisee, 1 Ibiak 
afaoat IM3 er 1»4; afterWaidi I beard aa awra 
o4 UoL I hare atkar laeeUceitoM «f btoi, boi 
tkaea ata fwrhafi tooea tkaa aaaq(h. Bllocc 

Oiua^ 

SoTAL Bvxsun (^ a U UM^ USy^U h 
raUyWattiaf I »«a, aaaU yaa toJk af Aibvt 
Edward Wcttta, aa yaa waald wpmtk af Qtoi9» 
G«elak,CbaiUeacun,MaryTa4ar,ar Kliaebelk 
Phatijiaitt ta toe*, beta ika Sex^Ovbarg 
faafly a aaeaaMe aft aU f ffmnr Pvoa. 

ToarcntMr (i^ a z. <3. fiaiV-I dailea to a^ 
a ward to mp^mt ti ika doiraltoa yeipiMJed by 
tka ^efae^ir Smim, Mae partJeyarly aa thai 
daiaaltoa irai aeWaalr aafiBntod by mtnttt 
Xa a^iaiiMpBl*|«to IM, ia aawbMaff 
Ikaectfaaf aahaMaaM^vaaaghiMt toiraa* 
itaeifililaad ^iMf^boA aae^toaMnreb 
anikatktfifaaiWMMvlalkadMrfii. WarfHlU 
, Ikai lav le la fartoai ether eai 

jBe toOaaaan^avi 
thia Da<ae< Onaait 



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LodioD (pronoiiDced Lovdin). Henee I Uke 
Torp«Dbow to be similarly from the Nonem&D's 
name Tborfin, which ia also found eUewfaerc in 
the diatrict, oa in ThtirfinKs 8ty (tti^ footpath). 
The well-known name of Dick Turpin, found in 
tbo Banish district of Yorkshire, 1 take to bo from 
the same oritiln. I may remark, u to the con- 
nexion of hoto with a man's name, that the word 
freijucnity meant a grave-moand^ and hence may 
be in 80U10 Ciiaes coupled with the name of the 
man who was buried there. We are nlso informed 
in the Sagas that it was an object of dcatro for a 
niaa to have a how near his house, so that from 
the aummtt he could overlook his estate, and this 
also might in some coses account for its connexion 
with a mnn's name. Mr. Sullitan remarks that 
the name in localtj pronoanced Torpeona, with the 
accent on the aeoond sellable, and this he thiobi 
is fatal to the above theory. lb seems to me that 
it would be equally fatal to all the other theories, 
for in none of them is there anythioft to account 
for the accent beioj; on the second nyllable. But 
in my judgment the accent is only due to the 
llurred pronaocintion of Torpenna for Torponhow» 

KOBKHT FbROITSOK. 

"Patet sastja. cor MAnia " (6"* S. x. 27, 74) is 
over some door at Rome. Poasibly some resident 
in Rom* may say where it is, and oblige 

a T. E. 

ToL-P«Dx-P«swiTiT (e**" S. ix. 449 ; x. 95).— 
Wriline of the village of Tolpuddle, Dorset- 
shire* G. W. S. conjectures that, na it stands on 
Die hiKh-road from Wimborne to Dorchester, it 
probably derives its name from a toII-t{at«. 
Surely this oxa hardly be seriously intended. 
Tolpuddle is nn ancient parish, having its present 
name at least from the twelfth century, and was 
on a mere by-road until the present high roatl 
from Wimbocoo to Puddletown was made through 
it, by the instruuientAlily of Mr. Drox, of Char- 
borough Purk, in the year 1844. The first Turn- 
pike Act wai passed in 15 Car. IL c i. Pre- 
viounly to that time (IG63) toll gates on roads 
wer* unknown. W. R. Tate. 

Wftlpole Vioaraeo, Batesworth. 

HasD-wovKsr Links (O"" S. x. 38, 77).— 
Avrapo* of the extract from Cobbeli's Huml 
itidcM which I lately tent to "N. & Q.," it may 
interest Spitalpiklus to know that a friend of 
mine has now in use a pair of sheets of stout linen, 
34 inches wide, woven by a man at Nnrthohapol, 
A f Ulage on the rood from Petworth to OmIMming, 
About the year 1845. The old man died two or 
ihn* v-'Ki t.'i'^'. nnd the manufacture in that 
n^L wiih him. W, R. Tate, 

^■i ■ . Hiloiwanh. 

WlTcuoRArr iir Ksolamd (6»* S. \x, 363).— In 
ft DOte at the obore ref^r^noo tD« foUvwing quot*- 



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tion ii mads from a lecture delivered by Capt. 
Hans Busk at Cambridge, March 20, 1673: "In 
the short interval between 1040 and 1666 three 
thousand personi were burnt alive for this alleged 
crime" (t.B., witchcraft). TAs flufwyo/ CVtnis in 
Enghmd^ by Luke Owen Pike, published in 187d, 
considerably mitigates this statement :— 

••TliouKli. however, there were. b*yond all dmiht, manv ] 
Fxecuttnns for witeboraft hotveen the kcecmun of 
James I. and tlie death of Churlcs I., the p«r«<ini wltn 
beticTec] most firmly in thia oS«nc«, and who cotittlliutrd 
mult tu thi; liumture cf the aubject, were a* maccurtio 
in tlicir Bt&trmotitA as they wore illogicsl in their muuu- 
iriKa. Tlicir tcftimony is very nearly Tortlilets. Those 
who conrort doini sria cnti into im|k«, and pins into 
inxtruniaata of the devil, convert tens luto honiredl and 
■cores luto tbousaoda. There ia a remkrkable initanca 
of BOitto looM talk of thii kind in eome tett«ra tddrcwed 
to Sir Rdward 8ponoer In 1(14.'*. In one pvage (bai 
writer SKyt thorc were three bunitrcd witohoe Hrrsi^nnl, 1 
and Ihs i!reat«r ]iart of them ex«H:uted, id Esavx and 
SafTolk nlotio in two years. In another paMAKe the ianie 
writer bringi down the totnl to two hundred, of whom 
h« alleifea that aboTo one half were ciecuted. Tha 
wltni>M who faiU to see the iliO'^rcnoe between tha 
•laughter of nearly three liuudreil hunian hciittr* and. 
the ilsuchter of nt^oot one hundred may be cuii>idcrcd| 
altogether untruitwurthy when Uo makca nny auertioQ^ 
Involving nambera."— Vol. ii. eh. vli. jip. 13t-5. 

The period extending from 1603 to 1648-9 ia 
different from thub mentioned by Capt. Hani^H 
Busk, and probably the Urgent number of cx^H 
eculions for wtEohcraft did take place during Ihe^^ 
Long Pariiament, 16401 653. 

JuUM PiCKPOftD, >T.A. ^^ 

A Dkatr VVarhixo (6*^ S. x. 86).— The eam^| 
superstition is coumion in Uoldernesa and North^H 
Liucolntihire, and numerous stories are current in 
auppi^rt of tbo RkDic. W. UxsRT Jo:iK8. 

Naw WonD : Pram (G»* S. ix. 42tf, 575).-The 
peculiarly built ship's boats, with elevated prows, 
used by Norwegian sailors are oalled yrami. 

R. Stewart Pattkmok. 

Hale Orescent, Pnndiamj Surrey. 

IIOUSKS WITH SeCRlT GHAkfBVBS (B"* S. xii. 
248, 313; 6«'* S. ii. 12. 117, 205, 433,533: iii. 
&6 : iv, 1 16, 217: ▼. 397, 478 ; vi. 76 : viii. 238 
X.37). — BliodoD House, Sussex, which lonuMoo^;! 
to the see of Canterbury, and was a frequent re* 
sideocc of the archbishops, is remarkable in this 
way. I visited it in 1H74, to report to the Sussex 
ArchoeotoKicnl Society ou some dincovcrics there, 
and wns kiudly conducted by Mr, Leslie over the 
whole boildio^. Ho showed me thrte places of 
concealment in it, two communicalint; wl 
btuit>m«Dt, und one with the rouf. In (lift 
chamber were the leflihert* .---..m* fi 
which a fugitive oould poll ' if f 

remember rtf[btly, some li tmu 

brcn found in it, vrcmiotjiy Im by 

person etcaplnif. F. li. A '•&. 

Hprmttage, Sasaes. 



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lex 

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The Ftisn or Birds ahcimttlt peutiTTeD 
oORiso Lest (fl*" S. x. CC).— I thiok this usajje ib 
stilt kept up ill Catholic countries, for on diniDg 
at the Onnd Hotel, Pjiriit, on GooiJ Friilay la<it 
(that day being, as every oue knovi, a great foal), 
oU the courses, tave one, were of finh. and that 
coDBLsted of ■ ipocios of irat«r-foirL My ideu was 
that, OS it inbttbited the water, it was regarded as 
fish, to acoommodate tender conioieQoes. 

Kr£Dkrick £. Sawtsr. 

Brigltton. 

lavKHTioH or Alcohol (fl** 8. x. 89).— I do 
not tbink it will be quite possible to fix the inven- 
tion of alcohol, And certainly I do not belioTe tbiit 
to Arnold of ViMa Nova it will be ultioiately 
Attribated. Arnnnd de ViUeneure is bi!i real 
name. He travelled into Spain and got a know- 
ledge of medicine from the ArabiLins, to whom the 
invention of alcohol ia by cornnmn consent given, 
etymology testifying the same. The Arabic aZ kohl 
is the impnipable powder of antimony or volatile 
spirit recti6&d. Thid always gratilics me as point- 
ing very distinctly to truth out of the inherent 
defect of human speech, spirit ttnd matter touch- 
ing where Che two enter upon their uttermost re- 
finement. Langnage breaks down, but the seer 
secfl. Leonard Simpson, in hii very able Hand- 
book of Ou Ari of Dining, p. 21, which was 
mainly hued on Brillat-Savurin, alludes to the 
perfomiog of wines and the infusion of fruits, 
flowers, and spioes, and tbe eondiUt, which were 
hot in tbe mouth and warmed the stomach like 
cordials, and says that at that distant period the 
Romans dreamed of alcohol But the dream waited 
nearly fifteen centuries, in Europe at least, for 
realisation through the still. Olaus Bovrichius 
the Dane gives in his Hermtti* tt K^ptiorum 
Sapientioy p. 166, a figure of a distilling apparatus 
used by Zosimus, who lived nt the beginning of 
the fifth century. Morowood, Kuay on hiebruiiing 
Liquor*, 1H2-J, p. SB, says timt the Mnsleui 
phyiioiaa Bbazes drew over a red oil by distillution 
(a.i>. 008), called oleum benedtetum philoaophorum. 
Tbe veiled prophet Almokanna (a.d. 780) threw 
himself into a vessel of aqua fortis, and this cannot 
be obtained but by distillation, All Ibla makes it 
cdcAr that tbe invention, if not ArabLin, was long 
prior to Amaud or Raymond Lully. Friar Bacon 
(in the thirtconth cf ntur)) is said to have been ac- 
qmunted with the proctss, aD<l that Lully was is 
proved by his Teslamentum Novitrimum, Albu* 
oasis is tbougbt to hare obUiined bydraled alcohol 
or pare spirit of wine, but then ho was an Arab 
and copied from Hba^cs. In Haydn's Didionartj 
of Ditig, ed. 1871, it is said Ihnt aleohol bos never 
been reduced to a solid, but has become viscid at 
low temperatures. Kreo this is hardly a fact now, 
for It was reported in May last that a Russian 
chemist hod succeeded in transforming alcohol into 



a solid white body at a temperature of 130° Centi- 
grade. It appears to me tliat everything that 
concerns this subject wants rertJicatloQ, all falling 
short of certainty. M. Becbamp, in March, 1B73, 
at the Acad^mie dea Sciences read a paper on 
the milk of cows, and strove to show tliat alcohol 
and acetic acid are coDtaioed in milk when first 
drawn, and that tbe proportion increaies u the 
milk is kept. If so, what becomes of the present 
social craze of total abstinence ? Even etymologies 
are not Sxed. Saudxvu, according to Beacherclle, 
is aqtut viUi, not vUa, as Do. Cuarkock showed 
in " N. & Q ,*' 5"" a ii. 285; and the Italian Delia 
Crusca gives, "JipiaviCe, vino stiliato ; Spanish 
wjuardienU^ aquA ex vino igne elicita," so that it 
appears to be rather hard to find foundation for 
any statements regarding olcoboL 

C. A, Ward. 
Ilarsntock Hill. 

Oldkst Fauilt in Ekglasd (6** S. ix. &03 ; 
X. 113). — Would It not be well, before arguing 
any further on the question of Purkis v. Wnpshot, 
to settle when the Putkia story arose. I have 
known it, of oourssj from my youth up, but have 
never thought till this moment when it came into 
being. William of Malmesbory, who is the only 
authority I ciin refer to, says nothing of Purkis. 
I have not studied at all that period, but I know 
very well that at that time nobody of low degree 
had a surname, and those who carried the body 
of tbe king on a cart to Winchester would be 
known as John the Smith, Peter the Tailor, 
William the Charcoal-burner, and Gurth and 
Wamba for anything I know. J. C. 

WooDEir Etfioiks (I»* S. viL 628, 607 ; viiL 
19, 179. 265. 456. 60i; ir. 17, G2, 111, 467; 6«* 
B. vii. 377,417, Ifil; viiL 97, 118, 337, 357, 398; 
ix. 11, 75, 214).— See The Ardttrolngical Journalf 
vol. xviii. p. 73, referring to examples at Littio 
Loighs, Essex ; Abergavenny, &c. Likewise see 
vtrso of p. vii. K. G. S. 



tfttfttnancawr< 




■ROTES OX BOOKS, ko. 

Stlrcftd /Ve*c Writinjji cfJoku MUlnn. With ftfi Intftl" 
diictory Emrj hy KroMt Mytir#, (Kcein I'tiul, 
Trench k Co.) 
Tf't f)'ieu\ir»ti of Sir J'^ikui Jitynoldf. Etiited and 

Annotated by Biltuand Gomo. (Same ]iablishffrfl.) 
To tbe Mriei of ropablicAliona of Me^rn, Kcgnu Paul, 
Trench ir Co, now oommenciiiK to juitify tlip titio 
a*ri([nf(l tLtm of " 1'arcliment Libi-arif." two wnrki of 
•UhJartJ rrpiitation linTo recently K-on'iiJiled. Milt-'ii's 
pry«e writiripi »!iou]d foria a itortion of tho imallcit 
collection of bociltB. Prcawnt. in-Jeed. \t it (o lisfc them 
ill a Btiipe lo ttppropriftfely heautifiil tlint tlic only i.ljVc- 
tion tn it is tbat Udiicouni^s rctdini;, "luconnoia Kfriiii] 
of soilifijt (ir otlicrwiBe injurinn by uic » dcliKlitful a 
work of art Th< Diteourtu t^f 3if JotKua ItoiirMx 



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meanwhile, tbongh interesting ratl)«r for the Hnht tliey 
tliTfxr on iho literary and ariiitic liintory of tho f^i^li- 
teentK cmtary tliBii for the value oT the counsels con- 
Tcyed.w a work tli»t nion will not willirKly nor Boon let 
die. Doth works, in the Jaiiity ibftf« l)iey now lutijme, 
hia welcome. Curiauety unlike u the treatitienlof tbow 
to whom hu been aulffned the tuk of nibering ia the 
new edtlloDi. While Mr. MverB eparea any form or note 
or comment opon trecta which, like the Arertpafj'itta. 
Dolictt illofltntlon, afid givei a lonfc prefBce, which ij 
political nod fantastic rather than elucidatory, iinti in* 
eludes k com parietal between Sanuoi^ Agowie* au J U»in«- 
boroDKh'e loaitcrpieoe " The Girl with the Pitcher " { !), 
2At, Oono mippUea a linsularly brief introduction, a 
model in ite wey, uid appends • few inraluablo ootee. 
In the few wlecUone from Blake'i chBractcriitic tnnrg^. 
nallaaeonrcoof great noretty and intereit ii ftirrtiahcd. 
Mr. Ooese has feared to giro many of thue remarkab'v 
cxpreiiions, l««t noder the snlte of editing Reynolds ho 
should edit Blake. We cootd bare woleomed, howerer, 
a larger supply. Mr. Gosm'* own D(>t«i are icood, and 
the view be lappliea of the inflaencee aronnd Reynolds 
and the sources of contemporary informatioo wMob wera 
ioaoceasibla is jut what the reader needs. 

Quarln Setsions ntcordt. Vol. I. Part II. {Printed for 

the North Riding Record Society.) 
Toe part before us is taken up entirely by the quarter 
setalou records extending from July, 16W^ to the same 
month in \G\2. When we ny that these documents 
hare been edited by the Rer. 3. C, AtUnson, the author 
of The Cletthnd Otouary. our readoni will undentand 
that the work has been done thoroughly. The only 
fault, intlcei), that we can find is tbut Mr. Atkinson 
has made but notes too abort and given far too few 
of them. Theie c-ld papers are far from li^bl 
rrading, but they cnntain infurmatinn on almost 
arery coDceitable luVjcct that can intorcat any one 
who Is anxious to know what was the condition of hia 
forafatbert coder the first Stuart king. The powers 
of local JoBticeB of the peace are tboufibt by aome to 
be eren now rxceniTe. At the time to which tbeso re- 
cords rttate there were rcrr few things that they could 
not do. We had always tnonght that the pleasure of 
ducking scolds was reserved to lords vf manors and 
mayors of towns. In this, it seems, we were miftaken, 
for it ii recorded that *' forasmuch as Anne, wife of 
John Swoetingo of Midl«ton Whemhowe, is a notorious 
flould, a common drunkard, aad a woman of rerylewd 

and evil behaTiour when and how often soever a« 

abe shall rffend ID scolding she shal be docked," 

The duty nf keeping a night watch in Tillages b Hlua- 
trated by tbc»e papera. Richard R'chardson of PickerinK 
was finatl in 1610 "for not keeping the night watch. 
We know from inaoy of the older law books that this 
traa a public duty, but we have always tliooght that, 
except In cities and largo towns, it was one that was 
only performed wben the country wa* in a disturbed 
state. Clitra bos been said to b« a name unknown in 
the stTcutccDth century. Wc find, however, n Clam 
Bampson of ^ruton in custody for an aseeult in IttlO. 

Tnn AuiiOit namber of the Ma^atint of Amaritaa 
JJittary cntitr.inn n lour- nnt^ interesUng lift of American 
bislorieal - 1 v General Darling, Secre- 

tary of the ' 1 Society. It id roD*tnicted 

{in«^c<'ii 1.' A..i^i.-.T, K*i.TK>logical 

and ' J he the 

Mk-c -r^^Il^'l in 

n 



PbUo^uphiiad bovi-dty vf rhlLadeJt'^'*) I'uuuiivfl l& l/til. 



and the German Piiilosflplucal Society of Ponnsylraaia, 
kI«o domiciled in Philndt^lphia, and founded in 17(J4.^ 
l*enn«jl\iinin kiuI TttniftuoliOMtEs have both contributed 1 
additions to the list as Isle as U8I. * 



Toe Antiquarian Jfa^iim for Bepttmber will cun* 
tain, among other articFrs of intercBt. the Ooniideti-in 
of Mr. FcrKUBon's paper on " Tlie Dignity of a Mayor." 
and also an article on ■- dalic Law, " by Dr. Cbarlei 
Mackay. 

At the forthuming session of the American Social 
Science Association, at Saratoga, commencing Sept. 8, 
it is proposed, wu loam from the August number of the 
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CONTBNTB.— N- 244. 
HOTBS :— Sfdaar SolUi oq Lord ItroagbAn) — ProllBc Gz- 
Ubllon, 161— Boob and Art on IjonOga EJrl(lg«, 103— Orucei 
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ChirUtco— Aodent PtdMt&l— B«*«iMd Attainder— InKilp- 
Uoo oa Tombttoue— PreMdesM- " Ut roM," Ac— Birtn- 
ftUoo of Orajr. 1C8— I>b Botry— Uvuel— Bjtod od Chiucer 
— "Pten PJovnun " And D^ddo— K^iulrftlccU to Krcodi 
Prowbt— LUr«-M rft— Soldlds — CftpC. T. Wvbb'-ITago do 
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**Bup Lords" — tCadw: VarbnMM — ** Bobby Sliaftos'- 
" Bis&l Wonblpfol'-Qnotatlou WmIwI, 170. 

SVFLnS:— Foreign Ord«n. 170— Kolw on Hr. Palmcr'i 
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CUARACTBR OV LORD BRODOHAM BV 

THE REV. BYDNEY SMITH. 
We are fortuo&to enough to be able to print for 
the first time qd estimate of Lord Brotigham, 
irritt«n durin(; bis lifetime by his famo^i* njiiioci&te 
on the Edinburgh Hevuw, Sydney Smith. The 
genuineDess of tbia int«reatiDg document iro nro 
in a position to guarantee : — 

He bM A (rreater rarlety of knowldlgv, ptrliapi, thftn 
any man of hii day, but knowi notliing TOry profoundly 
and accurately. It la not juit, liowerer, to ctll liim a 
ffinattcrcr. Ha bai consi^iflrabla niathemaiicRl utUtu- 
nentt, thoaEh far from b«ingafint-rat« matbematician; 
be baa a fair Itnoirledgo of clauioi, witbout btmg an 
aceomplMhod sobolar; and bo is acquainted with tbe 
pbytical •cioncoa, without being in any desrce eminent 
as a natural philoaopher. If moaiured by fait ovn eior- 
bitant preteuaicmii, Iiii attaintncnti aro riiiiculauA; if 
fiwamred bj wbkt utber people know, Ihcy are consider* 
able, and merit runect. Tie has gr«ut puirerH of roa«on- 
lag, and great qiiicKneu; little or no imaeination, except 
in earcasna, for nbich nature baa Sited bim up with 
terrible powera, and baa gireo bim alio a fair share of 
wit and oQtnour. His latxKtr for any [lartlcular purjioea 
ii onwearied, and hli activity to promote bis endi in- 
•ibauititte. He leaTM do corner unaearched— no itono 
unturned— no human being nncoaxed and naoanTaaeed, 
or, if needs be, uotbreatened and unalanned. He baa a 
total diiregard to truth, which, a« long as the failinr wad 
Dndatected, |[aT6 hiu a ijroat increaee of power, ana baa 
weakened him in proportion aa hie true charaoter hu 



been brought to li^ht. Hia two Ereat paaeioni are Tanity 
and ambition. Ua eonsidcrs biintcif as one of the 
most wonderful worki of t'rovidenoe— U Ipocesaotly 
aiming to display that superiority to his fellow oreaturea, 
and to graxp at supreme doTuinion oTer all men and all 
tbiDfta His vanity is so preposterous that it has exposed 
bim to ludicrous failures, and iittia which h« hu written 
will surviTe biro. Uta ambition, and the falttt'hooJ and J 
intrigues with wbfoh it.workl. bave eitraoged all parties , 
from bim, and Ifft him, in the midst of bodily and tn* 
tellectual etrengtii, an insulated lodiTidua), wbom nobody 
will trust, and with wbum nobody wUl act;— tbe largert 
and saddest moral ruin I have crer aeca. 

He is a very powerful speaker in Parliament, from bis 
eameitneat« bis Tcbemence, bis forco of attack, and hli 
knowledge of the sobJMt; but is, in spite of tbeMJ 

ftowerfDl attributes, unircrsally complained of, u toOJ 
ong and tedioun. When be has got bnld of an ide«f1 
ina&ad of loucbins it lightly and iiassingon, be remainil 
upon it, turns it orer and over again, tilt a seni^on oCJ 
fatigue is produced ; every one wiihei it was dis»i«e4rl 
and that tbe orator would pass on to something elataj 
Still, with all tlieio faults, be is a great speaker. Xt ibaJ 
Bar, be had little bqcccys; as a coun<cl, he wss Tcryl 
inferior to Tory Inferior men ; and his judicial career 
was a lamentabla display of arrogant ignorance. He ia 
very good-natured, and not unwilling to obHito. Ue ia 
agreeable in toola^, not by ooDTersatton, which be doea 
not nndentand, bat by a ilTely monopoly of talking. Ia j 
which bis hearers Tory willingly acquiesce. Bis opioiona 
00 all public niattera are (wncro bo has no interest to 
serre) in the highest degree pbilosopbical. Uia first 
object ii hii own ambition, but, that serTcd, and com- 
pleteJT Bfrred, he loves the piil)Iic g<H)d, and untlonlandaj 
it. He ia dcflcieot in personal courage — is generous and 
muntfioent — with a alight, and not rcry digbt, tinso of 
Innnity, to which ho is auid to havo aomo htrodit&ry 
pretension. He is not a man of these timea, whara 
eTerytbiog is known, and vi\tcn the conversation*, and 
opiatona, and lives of men are so boldly and publicly dls- 
cuaaed, and where a masa of intelligence aod common 
sense is, in the broad face of day, opposed to tbe iplondid 
errors of great men. 

If he bad been bora in Italy In the fifteenth century 
\w would have convuUcd that country from Venice to 
Calabria, and gnined an immcnie bisturtcal reputation 
by scattering war, fraud, mtaerv, atrata^cm, and spoil 
over that fine portion of the world. 



PROLIFIC EXHIBITORS. 
The folloving liat of the two hundred most fre* 
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lished Dictioftary of Artists^ and giving Lbt 
numl>er of picturea exhibited by each, may be of 
interest to readera of " N. & Q.":— 

Wilson. John n.,R.S.A K« 

Wilion, John James 498 

Childe. EliKS 487 

SiDglebin, Henry „ 449 

Sbajer, WilUam 4S8 

Beechey. Hir William, R.A 417 

Fiokersgill, Henry William, R.A 410 

Cooper. Abraham, R.A 407 

Tcnnant, John 40fl 

Drummrird, Samuel, A.R^ ... 404 

Clint, Alfred 403 

Ward. James, R.A 400 

Chalon, Alfred Kdwanl.E,A 8S4 

Weatall. Riehard, R.A SM 



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UurUtooc, Frotlerick Y«ile« 

Woolmer, Alfred JoBcpli 

J<ine<i, Oeor)i<!, RA 

AllflD, JuH])h U'illiam 

fioddinKton, Henrj John 

Newton, l-lir WillUm John (mlnliitarc*] ... 

Shoe. Sir MuUn Archer, P.ft.A. 

Phillip!, Thomai, R.A. 

BtovBtii, George 

RuMell, John, K.A 

Howard. Henry. U.A. 

Hufland. Tbomu ChrisUiphBr 

Olaler, Thomai ... 

he, Frederick Richftrd^ R.A. 

KcitUr, Jotiii L. 

lAwn-nce. Sir ThomM, P.E.A 

West, n?r>i«nim. P.R.A 

Rom, mr William Cbarlei, R.A 

Cobbett. Edward John 

Reinagle, Ramify Rich&rd, R.A 

Tomer, JoK[<b Mnllord Willlun, R.A. 

lAni]M«r. Sir Edwin, U.A 

Koicbt, John PrRtcott, R.A 

BoQQ, Benr; Pierce 

Olirer, Archer Jartiej, A.R.A. 

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<ir«nt, yir Fr»noi», P.U.A- 

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Stewart, James 

Gilbert, Arthur 

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BOOKS PCBLISHED ON LONDON URIDGB, 
ANP ART UN THE BRIDGE. 

An Intcreetini; note by Mr. Julias Mabehall 
(6'*> S. iz. 3B1) calls to my miod the fact, ibot 
** K, & Q." does not contain anr ndditions to my 
bibrtogrMpfaical oota on Ihece little works, fwit- 
liihed G" 8. t. SSI, since the sppearacce of ibe 
Tety full notet by Mr. Page, ending 6^ S. tJi. 
lOZ, ttnd by Mr. Grat, p. 461 of the same 
Tolom?. I nave now made some scanty addi- 
tlont, some of which are culled from the pages of 
"H. & Q," wbete tb« pobliealiooB are mentioned 
cifuftlly. 

Mk. Gbat gire« tbo term of ChRrlea Tyns't 
oeaipalion of the Three Bibles as 1660-1664. 
What waji this person's DBroe / Mr. Thompson, 
tbe Lbronioler of London Bridge, gives it aa Tyns ; 
MvMrt. Taqk aud Grat, jnobAbly more cor- 
rectly, aa Tfai. Was it not Tyaa ? Larwood ciT«B 
Uj in the H%§tory of SijnAoardi, p. 264, aa Tyne. 
H« mentiona tnat Ibis bookselier*! tnde tokens 



Are extant — g:reat cariosities to tbe nQmiamstfit, 
aa bookselleri were not in the habit of issuing 
tokens. Is this not evidence that T,vub usually 
ralued his public&tions at a few coppera, vrherttaa j 
his saperiors in the trade sold nothing for leatj 
than n silver coin ? Probably some one will refer 
to tbe books and token?, and say what fais oun* 
really ww. 

1C84. " Anglornm Spteulum ; or, Etigland'i 
fToTthiei. Phnkd for Thomas Possinger at the 
Three Bibles on London Bridge, IGB4." 

J. Blare, who occupied the Looking Glass, 16S8- 
1704, sold in 1692 the sermon of Kobert ItuiseT, 
of Wardhnrat, Sussex, on the " Unpardonable Bin 
against tbe Holy Ghost," 

J. Bush kept the Black Boy on London Bridge 
in 1693, and an edition of Cocker's Jrithmeiie, 
tbe title of which is cited by Liirwnod, p. 433, 
ahowa that John Back occupied that ebop In 169^] 
I hare said that Thoe. Norris published at tha I 
Looking Glaaa up to 1721, and perhaps later. 
Mr. S. Arhott has shown that Korris published 
various works of the Rev. R. Rueeel, one of 
which, Thi Devout Chriitinn't Dail^ ('omjKinVon, 
fourth edition, appeared in 1710. 

1699. I find the following la one of Messrs. 
Robson & Kerslake's interesting catalogues: 
" Bradley (J.), Fwu; of fhe Truth of ChriUianily, 
with tht Life and Miracla ofApoUonitii Tyaneut, 
12mo. calf. For J. Back on London Bridge, &o., 
169!>." Mr. Gray traces the occupancy of tha 
Black Boy, near the drawbridge, by John Book 
up to 1606 ; Mr, Paob only up to 16**7. 

1704. Prffit and PUature l-'niUii Jh» looking 
Glass on London Bridge. Doubtless publishtMl by 
J. Blare. Mr. Grat dates tbe occupancy of th« 
Looking Olus by J. Blore from 1689. ] hava 
shown that Blare published Bunyan's i?ainl't 
Tnumph therein 1688. 

\7 19. ** The Niw Hufcry r>f Vntn\tine and 
Orton. From tbe French and beat English Originals, 
With a new set of Figures, more expret&ive of tbe 
Story, and better adapted to the Bntf rtainment 
of tbe Reader, than any jet Kxiaut. 12mo. 
Printed [by E. or H. Tracey at the Three Bibles J] 
on London Bridge. 1719," 

1734. I have mislaid the title of an account of 
earthquakes published at about this lime. 

Mr. JuLtAN Marshall has lately cited tha 
following publications by James Hedges at tha* 
Looking Glaes on Londou Bridge : — 

1739. Tkt Cowpleai Oameitcr. Tbe sixth edi- 
tion. 

1760. Seventh edition of the same. 
1754. The eighth edition, enlargfd and im- 
proved by Charles Johnson, Efq. 

My collection regarding artists acd art on 
London Bridge is m> very smnll th^tt I moat 
sul.mlt it ralber aa a qocry for additions than aa 
t' if DOl iDTprumg that the bridge, which. 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. 



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like Old I^ndoD hi the Health Exhibitioo^ wen in 
Uaelf A ohumiDg work of art, shouid hare been 
(dtonn M ft reftiaeDce by several famous ftrtiaU. 
IticKardTbompaoD, the chronicler of Loadon Bridge, 
cites, from Wine and IValnuU, what la knovn 
QonoemiDg the reiidenoe there of H&ns Holbein, 
Peter Monamy (ihe marine painter), and Jack 
LAffaene (the engraTer, acoDe-paiatcr, and Bar- 
tbMomev Fair mansger and actor), who lodged 
on the first Boor of the dwelling of a waggish 
bookasller aud Buthor-of-all-work named Crispin 
Tucker, the owner of half a shop on the east side, 
under the Southern (Traitora*) Oato. The artiat's 
ittidio, it is added, was chiefly in a bow-windowed 
back room, nhicb projected over the lliaineii, 
and trembled at every half-ebb tide, in which 
Hogarth had resided in hli early life, when 
ho engraved for old John Bowles, of the Black 
Horse, in ComhiU. It is also shown that 
Dominic Senvs, the marine painter, onco kept 
a shop upon London Bridge. Thompson ftirea 
(p. 360, first edition) an account of William Her- 
bert, the map and print seller at the Goldttn 
Globe, under the piazzas on London Bridge. He 
does not mention thai Herbert must hare enjoyed 
an excellent business, as he retired with a com- 
petency to an estate which he parchasod at Chee- 
hunt, where he died in 17!)5, at the age of aeventy- 
seven. This authority citej^, p. 637, the desoription 
of ^n Exact Vitw of London Bridge $ince the 
ConJIagraiion of the Trmporary Bridt;*, a largo 
half-sheet, published by Herbert in 17SH, ''under 
the Hauaa on the Bemains of London Bridge." 
Doubtlees his shop was rendered insecure by the 
fire, aa Thompson says that Herbert contianed in 
it until the houtes were taken down in 17rj7-B, 
when be removed to Lesdenhall Street, and thence 
to Goulston Square, WbitechapeL A N.B. on 
Herbert'! bill, *' Prints neatly framed and glazed 
for exportation, Rooms and Staircasea fitted up in 
the modern or Italian taate," recalls a subject 
which has been noticed in " K. & Q.," the practice 
of papering rooms with engravings. Upwards of 
fifty-nve years affo I knew an old mansion in 
Surrey (Aoninguey ?), a mile from Oherteey- 
lane-end, in Uie rernaeular " Obesaylenend," 
on the road to Woking, near Ottershaw Park, 
which, whether rightly or not, I have always 
regarded as tho homo of Thomoa Day, author 
of Sand/ord arid Mertoji,* the walla of the 
drawing-room of which were completely hid by 
fine line engraTings, At about the aame time 
I reoolloat two rooms— one a barber's in the Market 
Phu)e,New|>ort, Isle of Wight— which were oulirely 
papend with highly coloured caricatures, which 
would now be highly valued. I have only been 
able to obtain two engraviDgs published by 
Herbert. The fint is that of " Enieat August, 

* Wu tbis Day's hooisl 



u« oi 

prints 



Duke of Bruna^ and Loneb., Elector of the H.R. 
Empire and Bisb. of Osnaburg, Father to his 
Present Maj. King Georges Sold by W. Herbert at 
the Golden Globe on London Bridge." As George I. 
died in 1727, when Herbert was a child, Ibis mexxo- 
tint was evidently republished from an old plate. 
The other is " Elizabeth Canning, at the House of 
Mother Wells at Knfield Wash, PubUshd M ' 
3td, t7fi3, ncoordiug to Act of Parliam*, by 
Herbert on London Bridge." Both of these print 
ore tolerably fair works of art. 

Tho "cute" which illustrated tho Bridge 
publications, whether from wood or copper, 
are generally execrable. One which may juat 
pass, engraved by " Bickham. jno.,'* the portndt 
of Peter the Great, lies before me aa the 
frontispiece to the Clear's life pobliihed by J. 
Hodges at the Looking-GIoss, 1710. Tbomnion 
says that when the new south gate of the Bridge 
was taken down in the year 1760, the fine old 
Boalptnre of the royal arms was bought by a Afr. 
Williams, a stonemason of Tooley Street, who, 
being soon after employed to take down tho gate- 
way of Axe and Bottle Yard and to form the 
present King Street, in the Borough, introduced 
some of the old bridge malexialB in erecting it. 
He adds, " The ancient royal arms are yet to be 
seen on the front of a small pubUo-house on the 
ri|;ht-hand side of tho western end of the same 
street, betweRU the numbers 4 and C7, with the 
ioBoription ' G. III. K., King Street,' carved around 
them. ' A view of the gate given by Thompson, 
p. '1S7, shows that when in titu these arms had 
(r. n. engraved above them. Aa the gate, having 
been damaged by fixe, was taken down in 172G, re- 
built and finished In 172B, tho arms are probably 
those of George I, or George 11.; I am not her^d 
enough to judge which. Kecollectiog the arms, I 
went to see them about two yean ago. I think them 
exceedingly fine and spirited; but then I admire 
Bird's statue of Queen Anne before .St. Paul's, and 
uaed to " look up to " John Busbnell's royal statues 
on Temple Bjir. The City of London would do 
well to place these arms in the Guildhall, but I thiuk 
that they would be missed by the inhabitants of 
the poor neighbourhood in which they now stand. 
As I paoaed to look at them, a respectable oitjieu 
pesaing by smiled and said, " They stood on London 
Bridge! *' About forty yean sgo a wall, bordering 
the left-hand side of the roaa from the landing- 

f)lace at Greenhithe, Kent, was construotcd 
arge stones said to be from old London Brid 
If any s^ll remain they would form a fi ^ 
pedestal for tho arms. They were full of garnetaj' 
Kqilvan Oiicvxas. 



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pALiMrauT Bramkr at Oaioikrwklu — 
When the pariah church of St. Qilei, Cambenrell. 
wa« rebuilt after the Ore of 1841, the mooomaotol 
biunt which bad wcapcd tho fin won InaUd 



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with coot«niDtaoQ8 Dee;1eot. Had; of them puaed 
into private bandi, whilst ft few wero laTed and 
fixed by cement to the walls of the vettrj'. In 
tbie positioo they tuS'L'r«<I from damp, ftnd it was 
lately decided to remove them. Oa thia beinj; 
done, it vaa foand thnt do leas tbaa three of the 
pieeei were palinip§P9t4. The most interosttug 
is the pliite boariog the inicn'ption of Margaret 
Dove, d. 1582, the imd«r side of which abows that 
the pla(« was cut from the margin of a large 
Flemish brass. The portion here preserved oon- 
aisls of an inscription running in a wavy line, the 
interspacee being filled with foliage and figures of 
" weepers" holding books or with their hands in 
ibe attitude of prayer. The inscription appears 
to bare been mctrioal, the only words preserved 
being, "Bis bino mense Seound'." The second 
palimpsest is the inscriptioo of Edward Soott, d. 
l&3d, the under side of which bad been previously 
inscribed with letters of bolder and earlier cha* 

racter, "Ilic lacet Job' Ratford Civts et Giro 

obiit xxlx" die mens' »eptcmbris cuius ai'e [pro- 
pitietuT Dens. Amen.]." The third palimpseftt is 
on escutcheon, of whicb the under side shows what 
utpeara to be the foot of a figure wrapped in a 
•hroud. These three palimpMite have dow been 

sfully moantcd in oak Imniee, and so fixed to 

I bock of the choir stalls that both aides can be 

nly examined. 

I have also much plcoatiro in recording the re* 
slitutioa to the church of the bnuecs mentioned 
in Hainca'a MonumcHlal Brau€i (pt. ii. p. lOB) as 
being in private hands, The moat interesting of 
Iheeo LB the brass of John Soott, Esq., Baron of 
the Exdipqiier (d. 1532), and wife. The rfiigy 
of Edward Scott (d. Id33), whose palimpsest in- 
Boription has already been described, is also 
curious from the fnct that it is, jadging from the 
character of the armour worn, at leAst sixty years 
earlier than the inscription. The brass of Edward 
8cott is therefore a doable fraud, the cfllgy being 
that of some one else appropriated without altera- 
tion, and the inscription bcmg the plaie of John 
Katford engraved on its reverse side. I mny uUo 
mention that the bms* inscription of Thomas 
Moaehamp (d. 1037) has been found behind a 
locker in the vestry, and is now placed, together 
with a plate bearing the arms of Muscbamp, on 
the back of one of the choir Btalls. Thus by a 
singular piece of good fortime Lhcjie brasaee, which 
have been separated for the last forty years, have 
been brought together again, and it may be hoped 
that they will long remain to keep alive the 
memory of the medL-cral village church, which was 
the predecessor of the present stately (own church 
of Sir O, Gilbert Scott. £. S, Dbwick. 

"SiTnEK,LAD."— The following is worth a note: 

"Tlie origin of thii pbraie, which in not nnfre<]TienU]r 
ktard ifl thu district, was sxplitucd b; ProfcMor Toller 



^U•r•ns CullcKc)) at th* annual metttng of th« EnalUh 
Dialect 8oi-i(rty, held st .MaachMter. ATtcr remarktne 
thftt, * owing to Lho •ucrcHlv* wftrvt of immipcratiim knd 
cotniuest. there wn* % |[r««ter variety of ilinlrct in the 
United KtnKJom Ihkti in iiotnc other oouiitriof, and it 
Wk« iiofrberti •trontier tliati id Ibis diitrict Rrnl tlie N(>rUa 
of Gugland Ksocrally. wbere ihey vtn nut urmid or ex* 
[•«QiJiDg lomo lung-power upon thoir iron)*.' ho nldcd, 
' It wu with words as with fnmilie* ; t\\ej likd their upi 
and downs, and tome retl from tlieir high estate. A 
phrmM that miKht ttiU b« hettrd in Lftncsshtre waa 
' SiLfaee, lad,' but it had dropped out of the book Ian- 
gUAgx, and was heard in tha streets only. Yet, on sx- 
amioing a translation of ths Pnlmi made bofors the 
Ci)D<|ueit. he noticed thst the educated Churehioan who 
had RloHcd them Invariably translated Kcft by SihtAt — 
the very word a Manchester lad might siiU t>e heard 
using in ooovenatioa with his playmates," 

G. a 0. 

Lirerpool. 

ScoTTisn Abmb At Sbtilul— Mr. Ford, in bis 
invaluable Handbook for TraveJlert in Spain^ tells 
us (L 175) that ** the first Christian knight who 
ascended the Girnlda nft«r the Gooqueat woe 
Lorenzo Poro (Lawrence Poore), a Sootcbman. 
Ills descendant, the Marques de Motilla, still 
nwDB the ancestral bouse ia the Callo dc la 
Cuna "; and be adds, *' a Scotch herald will do 
well to look at the coats of arms in the Patio." 
Acting upon this bint (which is repeated in recent 
editions of the Handbook) I, during a visit to 
Seville in May of the present year, found ont the 
bouse and was courteously permitted to moke the 
examination suggested. It may save trouble, and 
perhaps a Htt^ disappoiDtmcnt, to future tra- 
vellers if I place on record here the result of my 
investigation. The Patio is, as usual, a cloister 
with slender columns, the capitals of wbtcb bear 
small carved coats of arms without tinctures. The 
shield which Mr. Ford thought might bo worthy 
of attention is repeated several times, and is as 

follows:— Quarterly, I, a castle on a bor- 

dure four escutcheons each charged with a 

bend ; 2, Leon impaling Arragoo, oil within 

a bordure of Bidaure (az., charged with eight 
escutcheons or, on each a fesa of the first), the 
whole for Ponce de Leon; .% (Arg.) a bend (na.), 

over all a chain in orle (or) for Zufiign; 4, 

a tree erndtcated, within a hordnre charged 

with eight boars* beads I do not know what 

arma were borne by Poore, and shall l>e glad of in- 
formation about him and them; but the only bear- 
ing which, so far as I could discover, had at nil a 
Scottish savour was the Inst quarter. There was 
absolntel; nothing else of interest in the Patio. 

JonX WOODWOBD. 
UoDtroH. 

FasKcH Woax)6 BtTRvrviiro i k hovukVD Scotch. 
— These have been frequently noted, and traced to 
the anoiont and close alliance in the fifteentk and 
sixteenth centuries between the Soottixb and 
French ooarU. Kvery now and then new ones 



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turn Dp. Here are tvo which I noted for the first 
time Id Galloway thia euminer on two BQcceisiire 
Aayf. A gamekeeper, complMDiDg of late whin* 
burninp, eaid that it was a practice ia which the 

^deatruclioo of game ©Kg* " couldna be evited'* 

~J[ilToidecl ; pron. cTueted). Next dny, white ex- 
ploriog St Nini&n'a cave, ooe man said ta another, 
'Lift tip ynn nlooe, till we get a vitee [accent on 
liut HyUHbtv] of what ia under it." On the other 
hand,* pure Cormaa words turn up in our Lowland 
hreccia. Being late for a tneetlng one day, I was 
met on the road by a friend, a working man, who 
ezolaimed, " £h, xir, but ye 're langiome the day." 

i-All these words are in Jamiesoa'a Scotiish Dic- 
ary, but I hare ncrer met with them in 

r«peecb liU lately. UfaBERT Maxwei.l. 

"Thkbe's luck is odd HtmBEW.**— SVwiA, 
some time ago, oflered as its weekly puzzle a re- 
ward for the best gueas at the score that the 
Anstntlian eleven would make in its lint 
luatcb. In a subaequent iaauo 1,0<I0 gueuea 
were recorded, ranging from 73 to 860. Eaoh 
of the 9C scores, ranging from 193 to 001, was 
guessed by 4 or more persons—no leas than 22 
baring guessed 365. I notice that 61 of these 
d6 aoorcs are odd, and only 35 even. Further, of 
the 212 persons who in groups of 7 or more 
guessed the S3 favourite scores, only 37 guessed 
oTea xiambers, while 173 guessed odd numbers. 
This seems such a curious instance of our human 
preference for odd numbors that I think it de- 
serves a note. Stoma. 

LoTBAiR OR LonaAiUB. — I hare translated the 
following interesting note from a recent issue of 
the lieinie det £lud<$ Juivti :-~- 

"The nnm© 1*7117. ^■*'*<"^' oceopt often enoagh in 
the BabbinlcttI liMrsturc or Cho Middle A|[cs, sod one 
IDKJ ny tbat it is imivertally ai(rce<I IVtnt it Klwuyt 
aiguitlM ths ancient Lornune or Ij»tliKrini[Io. Wlthoat 
oonteatiog thst, oftoner thui not^ this U the fact, and 

thnt the commrm exprtnlon l^ni? ^D3n tuually mesnt 
the famous rabbis of Lomin«, ve wuuld still mgceit 
Ibo i den liR cation of this nsmo with another lociuilj, 
and that for the foltovrine rouona. The oelebimted 
Kajib)>am numtrora «moag liia teacbers ' the wi*e man of 
Lothair,' but we hate di snt)iority far vauroine (hat 
ho oTor was in ]<orrainfi. Nor is it at at! prob«ble that 
Kabbt Tarn Tiiitcd that proTincQ. yet we read of liim 
* that be heard lecture* from tbo mouth of the doctors 
of I/othatr/ En the preface to hif S^/tr hayyaihnr ht 
speaks of a Stfrr LotMair, and tbou»rli tliii uii^rUt un- 
dioabtedly mean ' a book ilprived from Lorraine,' iti ei- 
plauatiun is far more satisfactory on the hypntheiis ws 
are abnnt to off<>r. Finallr, tlio nsmoi of II. itieir of 
Lothair^ and of Menahem or rA>lbntr appear Ia todieate 
tbat In thete caws 1<i'thuir ii ratbrr the iianm of a town 
than of a province. If ire remember tbat It, Tam and 
Rashbam lived at rtamernriC in Cliaxnpa^ne. xrt ^re 
teninied to looic for a town bothnir in tba; 
\un>\- l^iii ve tbbik «ru h\\t< found in 
ihuttfi*, situated In close proximity to the iluc^: m>»u> 
nipt, Paiiii>iorrc, and Planey, wbctf ih«r« tiiaiad 




famous schMls directed by renowned rabbii. We do 
not know whence M. Cl^mant-Mlillet, in bia notice of 
Raibi. has taVen the etalem'rnt tbat there was a Jewish 
school, or at least a lynagngne, at Lbuistre; but t bore 
were such ins tt tut tun* ibrougbout Ctiampafnio, and It 
Is highly probable that there were Jews at Lbiuatre, a 
town so close to Ramempt, Dampierre, and Plancy, R. 
Melr and R. Menabeni, whom we named abore, would 

therefore ooms from [jhulitre ; the wiie men of Tri)^. 
who were amonir RasUbam's teachers, the anthoritiee 
consnltaJ hy R. Tam, would all be Inhabitants of that 
same Uwn. This place, in the twelfth century, was 
called Lustrum, Lhuistria, Luatria ; and If we snppOM 
^as is the cose now) that the » wasulent, we should get a 

form very near l^pl?. Perhaps, then, the common as< 

presaion ITllS ^DSH may sometimes allude to the 
scholars, not of Lurrainc but <rf Lhuistre. We would 
thus bo on tbo trade of a sreat Talmudio school long 
forgotten, and whose name, at least, it would bare been 
our good rortone to rediscover," 

L ABEAHAUa. 
London Institution. 

Statues or Poets.— Kow that a statue to the 
Scotch poet Robert Burns bos been placed on the 
Embankment, the t^estion of statues in London 
for the uDroriuoste English poeta Chaucer, Shak- 
spoare, Spcoaer, Milton, Pope, and Byron may be 
coosidercd. All but one of these hud tho mis- 
fortune to bo born in London. Hvde Clarke. 

Dgrcn Cncncfi is I/isdox. — Among the 
publications of (ho Marntx Vcreeniging (tJtr., 
1B70-83, 13 vols., 8ro.) are the following:— 

1 aer. I, Kerkeraads-protoeollen d. Holl. gemeenten 
to LoDden, I5€»-71. Published by A. Kuypsr. 

2 sor. I. Acten ran de CoHoqula d. Nedorl. eemeentaQ 
in En(teland.l.'i7i>-16O»,10L:t-24. Publiibed hy J. J, 
T. Tooronenbtrgon, 

3 sar I, GoschiedenisKn en liandelingen aang. da 
Nedcrl. gentcynteo in Rnreland code Int byiondec tot 
Londen. Published by J. J. t, Tooreoenttergen, 

jDa:!T £. B. Mayor. 
Cambridge. 

SiGVATXTRKS OP JooN Lebch. — Mr, Fred. O. 
KittoD, in his most interesting biogniphtcil sketch 
of J"oAti Lt(c\ Ariisi and fli*mourw((0, Redway^ 
new edition, rerised), givea a list, with facsimiles, 
of the aignaturea adopted by Leech. Mr. Kitten 
haa omitted one of Leech's early aignatnres. It ia 
tbat of a leech followed by " delt." The wriggling 
leech is not in a bottle, and is just an inoh long. 
It is in lithography, the design (II in. by h\ in.) 
representing a charity boy, with bands, blue coat, 
and yellow breeches, atandiog before a red-aosed* 
black-whiskered man in purple and gold smoking 
cap, green pluid dreselog-gown, blue stockings, and 
red slippers. There is n common AeoX (able, on 
whiohlsa oon'e«*pot ; and a small crocked looktng- 
.,i„-- i.-^nip* on the wall, rodemeoth the coloured 
li ia this ro«lia« : " * Well, hoy, wlmtdoca 
:ii. ^iiay about the clothes I ordered /' * Please, 
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|doot yon wish jod tnAy get 'cm.*" I bnve kUo 

"imotberlithofrraphof the samosize, dmini by John 
LMcb nod colonredby hAnd,rcpreientincaI'Ondo& 
|K>licetnan addressing a small boy : *' ' Nov, then, 
vniiDg feller, whit are you loit'rioK about hero for ? * 
*0b, if you please, air, I'm only a-raitin for the 
joong^tifvoC I ptys my attention to.'" This is 

[ sot signed, bat is an unoiistakable Leech. I bAve 
these two lithographs in an old Hcrap-book, and, 
M their mariiins have been cut off, there Ib no date 
or publisher's name. They are of larger size than 
the lithof^phi of "The Rising Generation." Ab 
Irbot date were they executed ? I may remark 
that only one or two of hie numerous illaUrations 
to Tht hfoHth^ edited by Albert Smith (1S51), are 
ngned. The Bigtiaturu in each caae is "J. L." 
Mr. Kttton is mistaken in thinking that " the 
Teiy happily-phrased inscriptions attached to so 

'< many of his cuts" (p. 11) were invariably written 
by the artist. The '* little bird '* perch^ on the 
top of the letters " R. D." (p. 6) was the dicky- 
bird for " Dicky " Doyle. Ct/riuifG&T Bkck. 



mutttti, 

W« must request corrMpondents dsiiring infonnatton 
* on {xmiij ni«tL«r> of only private intereit, to affix their 
mtoes KDil lidJreMes to tbelr queries. In order that the 
ansvars msy be addmsed to them direet. 



"FtLira KATCRALia." — About 1871 there waa 
in **N. & Q." a most uiefal, though limited, 
discussion of the real meanini; of " nataml son " 
as used in legal documents. The subject was then 
lelated to the admission of Ciinntnghunie Borth- 
wick's right to the title and dignity of Lord Borth- 
irick by the House of Lords on May 3, 1870. 
His ancestor, William Borthwick, of SoUray, who 
died before May, IMl, was married to Janet Sin- 
clair, and somewhere between that period and 
1870 the phrase ^Zi'iu mUuralit would appear to 
have occurred in the pedigree, to the danger of 
the peer's claim. On August 19, 1871, a corro- 
rBpondoot, J. M., gave in "N. & Q." one very 
r<))erttnent quot-ition from an official document of 
^lfi4G, which, if supported, might settle the question. 
iThc foUowiDg ia the important clause : " Isabella 
iBinoloir JUia na^Hralts ct Ugitima^ Oliverii Sin- 
b.cbiir et ICatberinas Bcllcntyne." This clearly 
implisa that natural sonor daughter at that time was 
eqaint]eDtto/syilimaf<, and not to illrffiHmat4 son 
or daughter. Against Sinclair lineages, particnlatly 
when Scottish earldoms are in qnMtion, the detrt- 
nental meaning has too often been attributed not 
to rouse the Hugpicion tliat advantage waa being 
taken of ambiguity at different periods in the tise 
' of naturcUis by lawyers and others. From the Cod- 
alstory Court of Rochester J. M. gave an example 
of the favourable construction as Into in England 
H 1777. With the ncir light of the last thirleeo 



years on the reading of records, it would be ex- 
tremely profitable to revive a subject that has 
most important property as veil as lineage coo- 
DcxioDs, Can any readers give references to doca- 
ments or printed works where the phrase oecunt 

T. S. 

Rksistlhss F.\tk.— I remember reading in my 
schoolboy days, some sixty years ago^ about a 
prince who, as the fates decreed^ waa doomed to 
be killed by a lion. The father, like Oroesas in 
the case of his son Atys, resolved to avert this 
fste, and prevented his son joining in the hunting 
sports and nmusements of the day. One day, 
atundiag before the painting of a lion, the youth 
struck the picture with his fist, saying, " Thou 
cursed besst ! but for thee I should be free to join 
in the s[>Drt8 with those of my own age," He 
struck so hard as to wound his hand, the wound 
became mortal, and the prince died. This is the 
tale to the best of myrcco [lection, and I think I 
read it in Greek. Will one of the schobrs of 
your learned cUenlite help rae to the name of this 
prince and to tho whereabouts of the talel 

B. ConnAX Buewsb. 

FasNcii Protrstakt RKFuasBB. — Can any of 
your readers oblige me by answering the following 
queries 1 Was it customary for the French Pro- 
testant refugees to record their baptisms, marriagoi, 
and deaths in the registers of their respective 
parishes as well as in those of their own churches ? 

Are there yet preserved any letters of denisation 
later than those published by Durranfc Cooper In 
tbe Cumden Society's papers, i. «., than 1688 f 

Are there any publications relating to the re- 
fugees other than the following: Weiss, Hiitory 
of tht French I'rolatant litfttgeet ; De Felice, 
HUtory of tkf, Protsstantt in France ; Benolt, 
Hittoirt de V^dii de NatUa ; Afrnew^ Protectant 
ExUet from. Fra^xta ; Floquet, Hi^oir* dn ParU' 
vuni di NormandiM^ and the works by Burns and 
Smiles } 

Are there any burial grounds in London which 
have been specially nsra by French Proteatanta 
since 1680? 

Where can a copy of Agnew'a privately printed 
work on French Protestant exiles be seen 1 

T. R. Tallack. 

Cringloford. 

Hetdoh Fauilt. — t should be obliged if 
" N. & Q." could inform nie whether Sir Thomas 
HeydoD, of Wickbam Court, Kent, and SirThomas 
HeydoD, of Caddey, Devon, are one and the same; 
wad oIm in what part of Devon Cuddey ia situated. 

PlKCCK. 

Sill Juus HonE.- T should be glad of infor- 
mation concerning, or reference to, a Sir 
Hone who, according to a MS. genealogy 
1729) in my possession, was " knighted b; 



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Henry j' 8*** in Iho sixteenth ^car of his reign," 
and '* for fats extniorJInary merit and rnlour seated 
iQ Stroud ia Glouceaterahtre." The {{enealogy Is 
drawn oijt by ono Charles Lynej^r, vho gives aa 
bU source of iuformutioQ the AnnaU of Sir Thoa. 
Hawley, " principal HeriiM and King at Arms in 
the aforesaid reign." Natu. J. Hone. 

WiUfEnFAUiLT.— I flhitll be ranch obliged if an; 
of tho readers of ' N. & Q." will give mo any infor- 
mation other than what ia contained in !iluc4llanta 
Omtalwjica H ffenildicOf Au^ait, 1692, and vol. ii. 
of Burke'd Commoners, n\a,Hn^ (o tho family of 
Witiner of Sywell, en. Northant^, and Ryton-npoa- 
Diinnmnor. eo. Warwick, and cBpecially relating to 
a certrtin Ur. Bradford Wilmer, ofOorenlry (iinhor 
of IVilmer'i Surijtnj), wboae dauuhter innrried 
the Etev. Henry Wutkina, Vicar of Cooishuri^h, oo. 
York. Mar 12. 1772. 0. WiuiKa Foster. 

Duitun Vioftmge, Kutherham. 

NiCBoixa.— There waa a Dr. Nioholl*, apelt 
with the double ^ I think, who bad a large and 
celebrated echoot at EHliog abont the oommence- 
ment of this century and down to the year ISi^, 
or thereabouts. Was he any relation to the Dr. 
Kicbolla, of Westminster School, mentioned by 
Gowper in hia short autobiography, p. 23 (1816) I 

a A, Ward. 

Btvantock nUL 

SioHATiTRKS OF CoLi,ECTORs. — Will ony Col- 
lector Rtata what " Jll" represents. It looks like 
allowing Italian R^ but careful examination shows 
the separation at ton. In it Joshua Reynolds, 
or Jonathan Richarditon? Also, what is the 
mcKDiog of "Xd£E:LSX32 For that in the 
Great Dakes Collection of the Portraits of the 
Painters, JR. Jan.," written on the back of a red 
chalk drawing, a portrait of Quido Rent by him- 
Bclff from the Fountaine, Eadaile, and JR collec- 
tions ? J. H. Haio. 

Bkhk CHRisTRTf.— What is the meaning of this 
compound ? Spelman, in his Hitlory of Sucriltgt, 
makes Henry \ III. say to bis Parliament, respect' 
iO|; the diaaolution of religious bouses: — 

*' Sur«Iy if I, contrary to yonr expectalioo, tboold 
■aff«r the Hiniitcr* of the Cburcbef to decar. or Icam- 

Ing to bo miiiUtiC'), yju mi^bt wall my that I. being 

put in lucb vpocibl truit u t am in ttiia caee, were do 
tmity friend to you, norcbftritat>l« to my Emne-Chrtjteo, 
Doibbor a lorer of Ibe pabUo wealth, nor yet one that 
feareth God," 

K. ConnAV Brewer. 

LAscTWT CARVED Pediotai In the hall of 
the vicarage of Wymering. Hani-), stands an old 
fMik pedestal, about fonr (evi high and one foot 
equare. The front side i% eIabont*ly rarfed, while 
iho back ii phuo, and the two other sides show a 
little umnmentation but no carrcd charicteni. 
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follows : A heart-sbaped oroamoat di^plnying a 
cross ; | Asso <> | 7C3 | ; a rose-like oroament ; 
<> iiS"Gt.Aa •!.<><> PT'RAs; adeiice resembling 
a crown of thorns ; * txK *\ maar'no it'vav* 
RAS. The lowest omsments conai^t of two wreath- 
like CEirvtngs, one beneath the other. The vicar 
informs mo that he took over this nrticle along 
with tbe fixtures, &c., in the vicange, and that he 
knoirs nothing of its history or une. Some of the 
readers of " N. &. K^." might bo able to interpret 
the variooa inscriptions as given above, 

R. Stewart pAiTBRflON. 
Uale descent, FarDham. Sorrey. 

REVEnsED Attaikdeb.— " In the cose of a peer, 
when the attainder is reversed and the dignity re- 
stored, a new peerage is created and a new patent 
issued," Where can Z refer for a verification of 
this statement ? X. 0. 

ItiscRtrTiox ox A To»BsTotiK.~Tbe following 
linos are indcrihed upon a tombalone in Tottenham 
cemetery: — 

" That \n>at part of a (tood Man's Life, 
ilia tittle uttremembor'd Aots 
Of Kiadaev, and of Lofe." 

Will any of your readers direct me to the sourae 
whence they are taken i Old Mortautt. 

Pbecbdknce. — Who takes precedence, tho 
Duke of Cdwbridge or tho Buko of OumberUnd f 
In the Carter Rjllfor this year the Duke of Cam- 
bridge's name appears among the royal dukes next 
ftftcr that of the Duke of Albany ; the Duke of 
Cumberland's name appears between those of the 
Dukes of Northumberland and Wellington. If 
tho Princess Louise and the Marqnis of Lome had 
had a son, what would have been the rank uf that 
BOD and his descendants 1 Enquirer. 

"Ut ROSA FL03 TLORFJi:.'' — What is the con- 
tinuation of this quotation as applied to King 
Arthur, and what ia its source f U. R. F. 

BiRTni'LACB OF Grat. — Is it known whether 
tho bouse is itill standing to Oomhill in which tbe 
poet Oray was born in 1716; and, if so, which is it T 
There was a great fire there in 17-lA, and in tbe 
Memoirs of the Lift and Writintjs i>J Oray, by his 
friend Miuon, a note is inserted, on a passage in a 
letter from tho poet to Dr. Wharton, dated June 6 

. iph 
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note. 

I de- 

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T. Lritsr. 



of that year, which states that, ** Ti 
here omitted contained an account • 
loss of a boose b^ fir ' " ' '' 
he ehoiild be at la r 
boea tbe one in whit^it ui 
surely hare referred to I' 

Possibly, however, the bjo . j 

slroyrtd in some stibatqnent tire. I 
in endcavonrlng to ascertain Uiis poin 
ask the aniatAfioe of " K. & Q." W. 
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Db BarmT.'SicKratim >n bang CKriad «al 
to fud the IbandfttMH «£ Alowiok AbWy (the 
ooIt put oov Ebon K>^nad bug the gatw%j\ 
tad ft torabttooe hat beeo iBoad with the foUow- 
iog inMripUoo rooad the edf[«: — "ObnitaLonlta 
d« Boirj per fen leta, Hac jaoat ia mela tite^ r»- 
dlmiU'jne Uta." According M R«ioe's A9Uiq*tiiie$ 
of North Durham, p. 1 8^» in the pedigree of Goe- 
vick asd Middleh&m, then ts a LorvtU d«l But- 
terie (nr Bot«rie} of Alocnioath. This ta probably 
the ladr abore ineatiooed, but I eaaaol tvaoe her 
huaL-ADd. Oaa t,oy of joor commmdmU anpplj 
the warn f O. H. Troxfsov. 

AlBwlck. 

Haxskl. — Oa the ff%me of a portrait of Louis 
XVIII. the foltoning couplet is en^mved : — 

" Besia dum Mauella UM (ubriJet imi^ 
Oulia ipsft UL>i luwlera Tulelur RtuurMB." 

Who was the AfaaMf aboat the Freoch court at 
the time ! J. O. J. 

Braoir oh Chauceb. — In L D'hraeli't Am*- 
naitt of LiUraturty rot i., ho baa aa artiole on 
Pint Plotigkmanj where he tayi, " Bjron, thongh 
he baa thrown out a crude opinion of Chaucer, 
haa deoland that JPien] the Ploughman eicets our 
aDci«ot poeta." where can I Rod anj opioino by 
Bjroo upoD Chaacer or upon Fitri Plowman f I 
find Chaucer mentioned twice, casually, in Englisih 
Sardj and Scotck R*vietwt, but more than thia 
most be meaot, Walter W. Skeat. 

"PiEns Plowmaw " AiTD Dbtprn. — What does 
I. DTsraeli mean by eayini; that Dryden borrowed 
•'one Tery Bthkinc line" from Purs Plowman, 
and "mny poasibly hare taken olher«'W The 
imbecility or non-amenity of giving no reference in 
such a case is amazing ; but what will not authors 
do by way of a flourish ! Can any one supply the 
reference^ or the references, if more than one I (See 
I. D'lsraeli, article on Piers Ploughman io his 
Amenities of Littraturej rol. I) 

Waltbh W. Skbat. 

Eqttivalxmts to French Provertis. — Can 
any of yotir readen supply mo with the rendering 
in English, or the eqaivalont to, the following 
French proverbs ? — 

Let beaux (■[>rtu M rencoatrent 

Lk bello CHg* ne noarrit jMint I'oite&u. 

ii faut qa'uDc porto it^U ourcrte ou renn^c. 

II n'y a point de b^ros pour son valet do cliambro. 

C'eit la tauce qui fait Io poitaon. 

Lacaqne i«nt tnujoura t« hsreng. 

On ne fait point d omelettu tans ctSfer tics oeufs. 

Qui dart, dins, 

Qui terre a, gunrru a. 

Qnand on Tent noycr eon cbien, on dit qu'il ett ooragS. 

A ohaqne ttint son cicr^i;, 

A tout seignenr, tout bonoeur. 
' bn ptUti eadcaux eotreUsnusDt ramtU6. 

Feed. Oadooait. 



Iiivm>-Lors&— Thb wwd ia trniJttrd In Oa(- 
gnre, ** An hnff-anofr, swagheUy^ pofrbtg (e msd 

ooised in derision of the Oennaoea Eld BvHMnt).* 
It occuca io the Cvnta fa cfci — x dn 9intr 0«iJ(ml 
of Etienna Taboorot, known aa Le Seijineur des 
Accord^ and is applied to a Oerman wbu haa bc«n 
talking for some time in Latin to the bero. Oo« 
of the byttanders on the oooolosion of Ihe hanutgne 
obserreSf *'Ce hfT*-l<*frt k [ji>] grand tort do 
Toui entretenir »i long temps auec »on Latin, oar 
le diin^ >e B**tcv" p. 6, ed. 1614. In a phrately 
printed trE&slEtion oy aoine writer of the itii>ii11« 
of the aercnteenth ceotarr, only known as J. R of 
Charterbooae, ** Co liff're-lolfi'e''is tranalatod " tbis 
babler." What is the origin of this word| with 
which Littr^ doea not deal, and which FniDci»(^e 
Michel and DeWaa paas over without mention 1 
Is it possible there is any connexion between it 
and loaftr, a supposed Americanism, nbich the 
Slang Ih'cf ioncrry saya was in use in Knghutd at the 
beginning of the hwt oentury I I ask this question 
with E beooming maanra of trepidation. 

UftBAX. 

SciaDE.— There are some " Diaiuaalrea anainst 
Self-murder" at the end of the Memoir of UU 
Early Life of Wvn. ihxcptr^ written by himself, 
published in 1818, At p. xIt of tbo preface tt ia 
said that they are chiefly cxtr:ioto<l from the worki 
of an " eminent American divine." Is It aBcertaln* 
able who he was 1 The "diMuasives" seem lO be 
helplessly weak, such as, '* If you are indigent and 
helpless, live ; the face of things may ngreeabty 
change. If you hope for immortality, lire ; and 
prepare to enjoy it." He mast be an eminently 
foolish divine who could imagine that dissnnaivea 
such OS these would deter any one seriously driven 
to suicide to hold back fVom the step. 

0. A. Ward. 

narsntoek IIlll. 

CArxAis TnouAS Wkbii, — Will any of your 
numerous corrcspoodenta who posseas recorda, 
written or printed, letters, memoranda, or other 
authentic items tending to illustrate the personal 
history, military career, aud ovaDgellstiolaboan of 
Cnpt. Thomas Webb, of the -IHth Foot, who was 
connected with the early history of the American 
Methodist Episcopal Church, and was interred at 
the Bristol Portland Street Wesleynn Methodist 
Chapel io December, 1796, have the goodness to 
communicate, nt his early conTentenoe, with John 
P. Lockwood, 101, Windsor Road, Southporti 
All charges of transcription and postage will bo 
defrayed, and the documents returned if reouirad* 

J. P. U 

Hugo di Vbre, Exnt or Oxford, U08.— 
On a tomb in this churchyard occur the arms of 
Ibis nobleman as given by Qwilim, via.. Quarterly 
1 and 4 go., 2 and 3 or, initialing or, a bend aable. 
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•iliall be obliged to any one who will tell nie where 
tbU Cnrl of Oxford woa baried, and whether he or 
ay of his family are remembered historicjtUy aa 
^ohurch buildera id that church-buUdinK aj;e. Ac- 
oording to IocilI tradition the person (?architecl} 
to whom thia tomb was erected fell from the tower 
aad woa killed, and I have aomo reoaon to snppose 
tluitb« Wis employed by the Countess of Rich- 
mond and Derby. M. H. Lee. 
Baomer. 

Jkrrut Colmrr. — I mippose one cannot trace 
in any of the aubutbs where Jeremy Oollier re- 
sided, lupportiog hinuelf by lit^mry fabonr. The 
only fixed pointa would u tho leotureihip at 
Gray'a Ion, and h\n imprisonmenta at Newgate, 
Gate House, nod King's Bencb, nod burial in 
St. Pancraa. C. A. Ward. 

Harentock Uill. 

" Am Old Man's Diart," rt Johw Patnk 

OotxiKR, — A copy of this book, in four parU, 

Bmall 4U)., was presented to me at the time of its 

iwae In 1871-2, by Ihe writer, John Payne Collier, 

WMOmpuued by a kind autoKraphio letter. On 

the tiUft-piga ii a Bmatl portrait of the author, and 

it ia aaid on the same page to be published " For 

itrictly prirate cironlation." The aame iojuno* 

tion ia repeated in the prefaoe. for recipients are 

requested to consider it ^* strictly in the light of a 

mannscript commuQication/' It U needless to 

|iay that the book ia much prized, and that it vra-t 

plelt oa a great compliment to hare been thought 

■worthy of being presentevl with a copy from the 

well-known and Teteran worker. How many copies 

•were iuued ? S., in " N. 4 Q ," 3''' S. ix. 382, 

Inaaerta that only fifty copies were printed, whilst 

■ in a notice of the sulo of J. P. ColUcr'a library, in 

the Daily JVeiM of Aug. 12, 1SS4, it ia aaid that 

only twenty-five oopiea were issued, and that one 

Ldisposed of at that date, conlaining letters, notices, 

"Ac, inserted in it, fetched 16<U. 

Jonw PicsroRD, M.A. 
Kewboame Rectory, Woodbrldgc. 

. ** Harp Lords."— I had a terrible wigginc, ft few 

tweeka ago, from Q. A. S., in the lUttitrafed Loiuion 

U^eufi, for baring omitted to explain why Oliver 

rCromwcll's bouse of peers were called " llarp 

Lords." Will one of your correspond ents, to whom 

ure apply in all emergencies, aasiat tho hulling 

memory of O. A. S. and my isnornnco by solving 

this riddle F E. Cobbam Bkewbr, 

"Medw: FAaenacK."— In the chancel of the 

Obunh at Arre ton, in tho lalo of Wigbr, is a smalt 

^■tone, with the following inscription rudely cut 

Ivpon it. UEDw: rAnnftAL-a . viOAit . 1UI5 

|X*eciLU. 17. As there are no registcn, or other 

^risli books or doonmenti of thi> t"'Hr>il now in 

risJrooo in Arrelon, which Wi: i o 

faotue j'aformatioQ ia r*L .f, 



I ahall feel greatly obliged if any of your corre- 
spondents will giro me full and accurate bio- 
grapbicalpariiculnrs(quottngautboritieii)re»f>eoting 
im, bis ancestors, and hia deicendunta. Wliion 
vaa hia university and coll^7 Wanted for 
genealogical purposes. O. Mabok. 

20. tStnperor'i tiate, S.W. 

*' Bobby Seiaptds." — Can any of yoar nnmerout 

correspondents give me the words of this old 

northern song, which I beard as a child, and of 

which I con remember only tho following lines \ — 

** Bobby Sbaftus' f^ne to mi, 

fiitrer buckles on bti knee ; 

Wbon be comei back, be Ml marry me. 

Ueilfb for Bgbby Sbaftus t 

** Bobby Sbaftui bad a ken ; 
Sbe laid egg* fur irentleinen; 
Oeotlemen oamo trtry dny, 
nil Bobby Sbnrtui ran away. 

aeigh for Bobby Sboftut I ** 

F. C. BiBKBKCK TbRRT. 

[ir we may truit a distant memory, tbo name was 
Bbtrio.notSb&ftua, uviCberrfraln wis "n<-i[iny Uobbiut?) 
Sbitfta." Tbe woondvene quoted by Ma. Te&st ooiiiss 
we faooy, from another poani.] 

" Uionx WoRSBiPFCL."— Can any reader of 
** N. St. Q." oblige me with information as to the 
right of tbe mayor of certain towns, t.g. Salis- 
bury, to be addressed u •' Worshipful** or "Hight 
Worshipful " ? Is the right conferred by charter t 

J. 8. 

ADTaOM OF QUOTATIONS WaKTED. — 

1. " Patb«r of Eu-th and Uokven 1 t call Iby name I 
K-iund me the nooka and sbout of battle roll I " 

3. *' N'ow for tbe fijtbt I now for tlie canoon p«al I 

Forward t tbrouj{b blood aud toil and clauJ and 
fire 1 " UuruiT Oarrt* 



I 



I 



Krpltrf. 

POHEIGX OHDERS op KXrOHTHOOD CON- 

rUUREI> UN »RtTI8U SUBJECTS. 

(G"" S. X. 41.) 

Ma. Woodward has explained, in & rery interest- 
ing way, how devoid of all legal sanction fire tbe 
" Foreign Office Regulations respecting Orden of 
Knighthood "in their attempted application to aooie 
of us civilians who arc not in Her Majesty's service, 
and, as we think, have done right instead of wrong 
in our acceptance of a foreign order. There ia one 
point, however, on which Mr. Woodward under- 
slatea his caie. He apprehends *' tbat the question 
of furcigo orders is * ou alt foon' with that of 
foreign titles." But ia ite legal aspect this is not 
so, for whilst fureign title« of nnbiliiy neither had 
nor have any fnrc« in Kn^Uod, it is (|uite d liferent 
with furciji) orlcri cf Uniulithood, The late Sir 
Oeorge ' Timtt oo Aug. 13, 

1671><^; no rcgulatioD of tiio 



dA S. Z. ADd. 30, '84] 



NOTES AND QUERIES. 



171 



Forei'ija Officp, it mny be biodiDg on persons serr- 
iog tbe Croffa. " bat it cannot alc«r tbe law of 
the realm." What that kw is Sir George Bowjer 
expliiioed as follows:— 

"A foreign titlo nf nobillCj giTM only tk< r«iik of 
e«<iQir« in Enelftnd ; bit n foraign Ittitght is a kai|{bt by 
the law of England— 2 fntl.. 657; 7 /i«/>., CnlTtii'* 
CUM, 15, 16; 29tU Edward III. H^t Doit<lr-Jyt on 
JVo6iVify, 164 ; Uakt of Uniiuiwlck v. Kin« of lIuioTer. 

6 Btavan, 2 ; FUta, \. 2. c&p. 3, MC. 9. Tiie rouoo of 
I Uiii i> that Icnlchtbond <lo«a nni belonK to anT on« atitto, 
I bat i< QnirerMl tlirouifbout Chri«teQdom. T bertfore a 

knitflit in odv couatrjr is a knigbt in all othan where 
knlfchtbooil exiat«. Ami tliii principle of law formi an 
•scfiption to tbe law tbat tUo Crowu ii tbo lolo fuuotain 
of honour." 

Tbe annexed notes will fthow how different is Lbe 
etate of things aa regards tbe law of Rnghind on 
foreign titlea of nobility. They were extracted 
from a mannscn'pt copy— lent to me hy the courtesy 
of n distinguished antiquary — of Sir John Dod- 
dridge's treatise of 1642, one of the authorities 
cited by Sir George liowjer: — 

" And the common lawe^, a« als<iB tbo lawei of Cbi- 
Talrie cxercited in jr' Marshall Court, doth r>rohibit nnie 
jut'jcct of tliit renlra to receive titles of l!onour nnJ 
dtgoitie, of the K'ft or donation of a forrein Prince, 
Kioff, nr Empcrour, f'^r it is a thin^ tiroitli? toucbing 
tbe Majeilie of the Kinir, and y* itAle of bii Kinicdonia, 
^ £tl iut fnaialati$^ tt ittt/ ituunia tutnma potalalit.— 

7 C(^€, 25, T. 

" And if tlmt n man ihall brtn^ an action, and in the 
writ laatiled by such forr«in title and nitme of boaour, 
tbe Defi mar plead in abatement of hit writ, that be w 
not Duke, Earl, .Mar.jtie*««, or Baron, whoreujwn if the 
plaintilTur drfcodatit tuke iuue, thja iuue ihall not be 
tried by Jurie, but bv tbe recordea of the Parliament, 
wberein be failetb.— 6 Cote, 53 ; 7 Cote, 15. 

" And ir an KnKlisbninn be made Earl of tbe Empire or 
nf onie other forrein nation created into Honor, and y' 
King allioe doc crentc him into anie tttl« or Honor In 
I EogTand, he abtill nut be named in nil Judeciall procecd- 
[ ing4, nriolie hy lucb name and title ai he hath receiri'd 
from the Ring of tbii realm, whole aubjeet be it, and 
if by tlie Klnt; of England, ho l>« not advanced to title 
of Honour, then be eliall bear y* name onelie of bia 
haptinne and aumame. v>Utti Ae he a Knight, 20 Ed. IV. 
Q ; 7 Vole. 16, a. For experience tcacliclb that Kio^a 
joyned in lenpuc togt^thcr and by ccrttine m'ltuall, and 
aa it were naturall power of tnonarcha, accordiog to the 
law of nations, hare di)mt<>aed (^m anothcr'a Bubj«cts 
and ambaaaodoura graced with tbia dignitie of Kuigbt- 
bood 

"Bat there ia a divonitla wortliio of observation (for 
the bl|;heit and loweat dlgnitiea are univeratll) and 
tberefora a Kiii|{ht lEngliab or stranger born) is a 
Knlxht in all nation!, in what place so«ver ho receiTcd 
hia title of dijfnitie, and to ouicl't of riitht and hy law be 
named in tl>u Kings's Ouurta, 20 Ed. )V. 6; 33 Edw.lil., 
86 i OS before is eaid," 

Fbbdk. Hbkdriks. 
Linden Qardeni. W. 

' If Mr. Woodivjiro will rofer to t