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NOTES AND QUERIES:
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i&Myxca, it int(r«CommunC(atCott
FOR
LITERARY MEN, ARTISTS, ANTIQUARIES,
GENEALOGISTS, ETC.
"When found, make a nob ot" — Captain Cuttlb.
VOLUME EIGHTH.
July — December, 1853.
LONDON:
GEORGE BELL, 186. FLEET STREET.
1853.
NOTES AND QUERIES:
A MEDIUM OP INTER-COMMUNICATION
LITERARY MEN, ARTISTS, ANTIQUARIES, GENEALOGISTS, ETC.
M VOThen found* make a note of;*' — Captaiw Cuttlk.
No. 192.]
Saturday, July 2. 1853.
C Price Foarpence.
l Stamped Edition, 54f.
NoTBs: —
CONTENTS.
Page
1
2
3
4
4
Oblationora white Bull - - - - -
Newst^ad Abbey, by W. a Hasleden - - -
On a celebrated Passage in " Romeo and Juliet/*
Act III. So. 2., by S. W. Singer . - -
On the Passage ftom ** King Lear •• - - -
Manners of the Irish, by H. T. Ellacombe, &c. -
Minor Notes : — Burial in an Erect Posture — The
Archbishop of Armagh's Cure for the Gout, 1571—
The last iinnwn Survivor of General Wolfe's Army
in Canada— National Methods of applauding— Curious
Posthumous Occurrence - - - - 6
^Queries : —
Did Captain Cook first discover the Sandwich Islands?
by J. S. Warden 6
Superstition of the Cornish Miners - - - 7
Minor Queribs : — Clerical Duel —Pistol — Council of
Laodicea, Canon 35. — Pennycomequiclc, adjoining
Plymouth— Park the Antiquary— Honorary D.C.L.'*
— Battle of Villers en Couche — Dr. Misaubin —
Kemble, Willet. and Forbes— Piccalyly— Post- Office
«bout 1770 — *' Carefully examined and well-authenti-
cated"— Sir Ueister Kyley — Effigies with folded
Hands .----.-7
Minor Queries with Answers : — Passage in Bishop
Horsley — '* Marry come up ! " — Dover Court —
Porter— Dr. WhiUker's ingenious Earl— Dissimulate 9
tRsPLiBs : —
Bishop Ken, by the Rev. J. H. Markland - .10
Bohn's Edition of Hoveden, by James Graves . - II
Coleridge's Christabel, by J. S. Warden - - - H
Its - - 12
Family of Milton's Widow, by T. Hughes - - 12
'Books of Emblems — Jacob Behmen, by C. Mansfield
Ingleby -.-----13
Raffaelle^s Sposalizio - - - - - 14
Wmdfali 14
Mr. Justice Newton, by the Rev. H. T. Ellacombe and
F. Kyffin Lenthall • - - - - 15
Photographic Correspoivdencb : — Mr. Lyte's Treat>
ment of Positives — Stereoscopic Angles — Query re-
specting Mr. Pollock's Process — Gallo-nitrate of
Silver 15
SlBPLiBs TO Minor Queries : — Vcrney Note decyphered
— Em*>lemt by John Banyan — Mr. Cobb's Uiary —
" Sat cito si sat bene " — My the versus Myth — The
Gilbert Family — Alexander Clark — Christ's Cross
— The Rebellious Prayer — '* To the Lords of Con-
vention " — Wooden Tombs and Effigies — Lord
'Clarendon and the Tubwoman — House-marks —
** Amentium haud amantiiim " — The Megatherium
in the British Museum — Pictorial Proverbs —*' Hur-
rah," and other War-cries ....
Miscellaneous : —
Notes on Books, &c.
Book» and Odd Volumes wanted >
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisements . . .
17
20
21
21
SI
V0L.VIII. — No. 192.
OBLATION OF A WHITE BULL.
By lease dated 28th April, 1533, the Abbat of
St Edmund's Bury demised to John Wright,
glazier, and John Anable, pewterer, of Bury, the
manor of Haberdon appurtenant to the office of
Sacrist in that monastery, with four acres in the
Vynefeld, for twenty years, at the rent of 51, 4s. to
the Sacrist ; the tenants also to find a white bull
every year of their term, as often as it should
happen that any gentlewoman, or any other
woman, should, out of devotion, visit the shrine of
the glorious king and martyr St. Edmund, and
wish to make the oblation of a white bull. (Dodsw.
Coll. in Bibl. Bodl,, vol. Ixxi. f. 72.)
If we are to understand a white bull of the an-
cient race of wild white cattle, it may be inferred,
I suppose, that in some forest in the vicinity of
Bury St. Edmund's they had not disappeared in
the first half of the sixteenth century. The wild
cattle, probably indigenous to the great Caledonian
forest, seem to have become extinct in a wild state
before the time of L eland, excepting where pre-
served in certain ancient parks, as Chillingham
Park, Northumberland, Gisburne Park in Craven,
&c., where they were, and in the former at all
events still are, maintained in their original purity
of breed. They were preserved on the lands of
some abbeys; for instance, by the Abbats of
Whalley, Lancashire.
Whitaker (History of Craven, p. 34.) mentions
Gisburne Park as chiefly remarkable for a herd of
wild cattle, descendants of that indigenous race
which once roamed in the great forests of Lanca-
shire, and they are said by/ some other writer to
have been originally brought to Gisburne from
Whalley after the dissolution. One of the de-
scendants of Robert de Brus, the founder of Gains-
borough Priory, is stated by Matthew Paris to
have conciliated King John with a present of
white cattle. The woods of Chillingham Castle
are celebrated at this day for the breed of this
remarkable race, by which they are inhabited ; and
I believe there are three or four other places in
which they are preserved.
In the form and direction of the horns, these
famous wild white oxen seem to be living repre-
2 NOTES AND QUERIES. [No. 192.
I - ■ . . ■ ,.■■■■
sentatives of the race whose bones are fonnd in a under the only roof that kept out wet of all this vast
fossil state in England and some parts of the Con- P«l«» the fifth Lord Byron breathed his last; and to
tinent in the " diluvium " bone-caves, mixed with this inheritance the poet succeeded."
the bones of bears, hyenas, and other wild ani- It is not necessary for me to refer to the lofty
mals, now the cotemporaries of the Bos Gour, or expression of the poet's feelings on such hi» in-
Asiatic Ox, upon mountainous slopes of Western heritance, nor to the necessity of his parting from
India. I have read that white cattle resembling the estate, which appears now to be happily re-
the wild cattle of Chillingham exist in Italy, and stored to its former splendour ; but possessing
that it has been doubted whether our British wild some knowledge of a lamentable fact, that neither
cattle are descendants of an aboriginal race, or Mr. Pettigrew nor Mr. Ashpitel appears to be
were imported by ecclesiastics from Italy. But aware of, 1 feel inclined to soften the asperity of
this seems unlikely, because they were not so easily the reflections quoted; and palliate, although I
brought over as the Pope's bulls (the pun is quite may not justify, the apparently reckless proceed-
unavoidable), and were undoubtedly inhabitants ings of the eccentric nfth Lord, as he is called,
of our ancient forests at a very early period. In the years 1796 and 1797, after finishing my
However, my present object is only to inquire clerkship, I had a seat in the chambers of the late
for any other instances of the custom of offering a Jas. Hanson, Esq., an eminent conveyancer of
white bull in honour of a Christian saint. Perhaps Lincoln's Inn ; and while with him, amongst other
some of your correspondents would elucidate this peers of the realm who came to consult Mr.
singular oblation. Hanson regarding their property, we had this
I am not able to refer to Col. Hamilton Smith's eccentric fifth Lord Byron, who apparently came
work on the mythology and ancient history of the up to town for the purpose, and under the most
ox, which may possibly notice this kind of offering, painful and pitiable load of distress, — and I must
W. S. G. confess that I felt for him exceedingly ; but his case
Newcastle-upon.Tyne. was past remedy, and, after some daily attendance,
pouring forth his lamentations, he appears to have
returned home to subside into the reckless opera-
NEWSTEAD ABBEY. tious reported of him. His case was this : — Upon
The descent of property, like the family pedi- the marriage of his son, he, as any other father
gree, occasionally exhibits the most extraordmary would do, granted a settlement of his property,
disruptions ; and to those who may be ignorant of including the Newstead Abbey estate ; but by
the cause, the effect may appear as romance. I some unaccountable inadvertence or negligence of
have been particularly struck with the two inte- the lawyers employed, the ultimate reversion of the
resting papers contained in the April number of fee-simple of the property, instead of being left, as
the ArchcEological Journal, having reference to the it ought to have been, in the father as the owner of
Newstead Abbey estate, formerly the property of the estates, was limited to the heirs of the son.
Lord Byron's family, which, amongst other mat- And upon his death, and failure of the issue of the
ters, contain some severe remarks on the conduct marriage, the unfortunate father, this eccentric lordy
of one of its proprietors, the great uncle and pre- found himself robbed of the fee-simple of his own
decessor of our great poet, and having reference inheritance, and left merely the naked tenant for
to dilapidation. Mr. Pettigrew, in his paper, states life, without any legal power of raising money upon
that — it, or even of cutting down a tree. It is so many
- Family differences, particularly during the time of yf ^? ^S^' *^*,*^ I now do not remember the detail
the fifth Lord Byron, of eccentric and unsocial manners, 0^ ^^^^t passed on these consultations ; but it wmild
suffered and even aided the dilapidations of time, appear, that if the lawyers were aware ot the eflect
The castellated stables and offices are, however, yet to of the final hmitation, neither father nor son ap-
be seen." pear to have been informed of it, or the result
And Mr. Ashpitel adds that- ^lil.'S'l^r^i"'^^^^'^^^^^^^^
** The state of Newstead at the time the poet sue- order* Whether this case was at all a promoting
eeeded to the estate is not generally known: *the ^jj^^gg ^f ^jj^ alteration of the law, I do not know ;
wicked lord' had felled all the noble oaks, destroyed the ^^. ^g ^^^ j^^^ jj^^ stands, the estate would revert
finest herds of deer, and, in short, had denuded the ^^^j^ ^^ ^^^ f,^^YieT as heir of this son. This case,
^e of everything he could. The hirelings of the ^ j . j gi^^ ^^ me, and I once had
attoriiey did the rest: they stripped away all he fur- ^ a similar erroneous proposition in a
mture, and everything the law would permit them to , . \ , j ^^i i. j t tl*^^ *k;o -.^r^
remove. Tbu buildings on the east side were unroofed ; la^ge mtended settlement ; and I quoted this un-
the old Xenodocblum, and the grand refectory, were fortunate accident as an authority. JSTow, altnough
full of hay ; and the entrance-hall and monks' parlour tbis relation may not fully justify the reckless
were stable for cattle. In the only habitable part of waste that appears to have been committed, it cer-
the building, a place then used as a sort of scullery, tainly is a palliative. I do not recollect whether
Jm-T 2. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUBEIEa
onr fifth iopd had taj surviving daughter to pro-
vide for; but if he had, hia situation woi^ld be it
stiU more a^ravated portion, W. S. Haslecbh.
OH A CBI.BBBATBI>
Few passagea in Shakspeare have so often and
so ineffectuttU]' been "winnowed" as the opening
of the benutiful and passionate soliloquy of Juliet,
when ardently and impatiently invoking night's
return, which was to bring her newly betrothed
lover to her arms. It stands thus in the first folio,
from whiiJi the best quarto differs only in a few
unimportant points of orthography :
« Gallop flpflce, you fiery footed sleedes.
Towards Phiibus' lodging, such a wagoner
As Phaeton would whip you to the wish.
Andb
night ir
Spred thy close curtaine, Loue-performing night,
That run-awayes eyes may wincbe, and Roi
Leape to these aimes, untalkt of and unseen
The older commentators do not attempt
cban^ the word run-aieattes, but seek to explai
&c
Warburton saja Phcebua is the runaway.
Sleevens has a long ailment to prove that Night
s the runaway. Douce thought Juliet herself
the runaway; and at a later period the Rev. Mr.
Halpin, in a very elegunt and ingenious essay,
attempts to prove that by the runaway we must
■understand Cupid.
Mb. Knight and Mk, Collier have both of
them adopted Jackson's conjecture of unatmres,
and have admitted it to the honour of a place in
the text, but Mb. Dtce has pronounced it to be
" villainous;" and it must be confessed that it has
nothing but a slight similarity to the old word to
recommend it. Ma. Dvce himself has favoured
us with three suggestions ; the first two in his
Remarks on Collier and KnigAft Shakspeare, in
1844, where he says —
" That my) (the last ayllable of run-ouayi) ought to
be day9j 1 feel next to certain; but what word ori-
ginally preceded it I do not pretend to determine :
' Spread thy close euitun, love-peTfarming Night I
That ^^(?) Day', eyes may wint, and Uomeo
Leap to these amis, untalk'd of and unseen,' &<:.'
The correctors of tSm. Coujer's folio having
substituted —
" That nwnio eyes may wink,"
Ub. Dvce, in his recent Feiv Notei, properly re-
jects that reading, and submits another conjecture
of his own, founded on the supposition that the
word roving having been written illegibly, roaninge
was mistaken for fia-meayet, and proposes to
reid—
" That ranny cjrai may wmk."
Bvery snggestiou of Mb. Dtce, certainly the
most competent of living commentators on Shak-
ipeare, merits attention ; but I cannot say that I
think he has succeeded in either of his proposed
readings.
MoQck Mason seems to have had the dearest
QOtion of the requirements of the passage. He
;aw that " the word, wliatever the meaning of it
might be,'Was intended as a propername;" Dut he
was not happy in suggesting renomy, a French
word with an English termination.
In the course of his note he mentions that
Heath, " the author of the JfenwoZ, reads 'flumour's
eyes may wink;' which agrees in sense with the
rest of the passage, but diSers widely from run-
aways in the trace of the letters."
I was not conscious of having seen this sugges-
tion of Heath's, when, in consequence of a question
put to me by a gentleman of distinguished taste
and learning, I turned my thoughts to the passage,
and at length came to the conclusion that the
word must have been nimourers, and that from its
unfrequent occurrence (the only other example of
it at present known to me being one afforded by
the poet) the printer mistook it for runawaget;
which, when written indblinctly, it may have
strongly resembled. I therefore think l^at we
may rend with some confidence ;
" Spread thy close curtains, love-performing Night, .
That rmnmiren' eyes may wink, and Eomea
Leap to these arms, unlali'd a/ and uiueea."
It fulfils the requirements of both metre and
sense, and the words unUdh'd of and unseen make
it nearly indisputable. I had at first thought it
might be "ruraorcms eyes;" but the personifica-
tion would then be wanting. Shakspeare has per-
sonified Rumour in the Introduction to the Second
Part of King Henry IV.; and in Coriolaitui,
Act IV. Sc. 6., we have —
" Go see this Tunumrer whipp'd."
I am gratified by seeing that I have anticipated
your able correspondent, the Eev. Mb. Amaow-
suiTH, in his elucidation of " ciomour your tongues,"
by citing the same passage from Udall's Apoph-
thegmea, in my Virtaication of the Text of Shak-
speare, p. 79. It is a pleasure which must console
me for having snbjected myself to his just animad-
version on another occaston. If those who so
egregiously blunder are to be spared the castigation
justly merited, we see by late occurrences to what
it may lead ; and your correspondent, in my judg-
ment, is conferring a favour on all true lovers of
our great poet by exposing pretension and error,
from whateverquarterit may come,— a duty which
has been sadly neglected in some late partial re-
TJews of Mb. Colueh's " clevtr" corrector. M».
Abrowbhitb'b communications have been so truly
ad rem, that I think I shall be expressing the sen*
timenta of all Toor readers interested in sudi
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 192. •
m&tMn, in espraoaing a
(Yol. V
12.)
one or two. He might consider, first, that his
OWD dignity would Buffer least by letting them
pass bj him " as the idle wind ; " and, secondl j,
that Bome allowance Bhould be made for gentle-
men who engage in controversj on a subject
which, atrangelj enough, next to religion, seems
to be most productive ofdiacord. ' S. H.
Will you allow me t« suggest to your ingenious
Leeds correspondent (whose communications
would be read with only the more pleasure if they
evinced a little more respect for the opinions of
others) that before he asserts the existence of a
certain error which be points out in a passage in
King Lear to be "undeniable," it would be de-
sirable that he should support his improved
reading by other passages Irom Shakspeare, or
froD) cotemporary writers, in which the word he
proposes occurs ? For my own part, I think
A. £■ B.'s suggestion well worthy of consideration,
but I cannot admit that it "demonstrates itself,"
or "that any attempt to support it by argument
would be absurd," for it would unquestionably
strengthen bis case to show that the verb " re-
cuse was not entirely obsolete in Shakspeare'a
time. Neither can I admit that there is an "ob-
■vious opposition between means and defects," the
two words having no relation to each other. The
question is, which of two words must he altered ;
and at present I must own I am inclined to put
more faith in the authority of " the old corrector "
than in A. E. B.
Having taken up my pen on this subject, allow
me to remark upon the manner in which Ma.
Cohibb's folio is referred to by your corre-
spondent. I have carefully considered many of
the emeudations proposed, and feel in my own
mind satisfied that so great a number that, in the
words of your correspondent, demonstrate Ihem-
xehes, could not have been otherwise than adopted
from some authority. Even in the instance of the
paasftne from He^iry V., " on a table of green
frieae, ' which A. E. B. selects, I presume, as being
especially absurd, I think "the old corrector"
right ; although I had frequently cited Theobald's
correction as particularly happy, and therefore
the new version was at first to me very distasteful.
But, whatever opinion may be held as to the value
of the book, it is surely unbecoming to the dis-
cussion of a literary question to indulge in the
unsparing insinuations that have been thrown out
on all sides respecting it, I leave out of question
the circumstance, that the long and great services
of Mb. CoLLiEB ought to protect bim at least from
such unworthy treatment. Samdei, Hicksos.
P.S. — Since Writing the above, I have seen
Mb. Keiqutlet's letter. I hope he will not de-
Eive the readers of " N, & Q." of the benefit of
1 valuable communications for the offences of
Does not Shakspeare here use secure as a verb,
in the sense "to make careless?" Ifso, the pas-
sage would mean, "Our means," that is, our power,
our strength, make us wanting in care and vigi-
lance, and too self-confident. Gloucester says,
"I stumbled when I saw ;" meaning. When I had
eyes Iwalked carelessly; when I had the "means"
of seeina and avoiding atumbling-blocks, I stum-
bled and fell, because I walked without care and
watchfulness. Then he adds, " And our mere de-
fects prove our commodities." Our deficiencies,
our weaknesses (the sense of them), make us use
such care and exertions as lo prove advantages to
us. Thus the antithesis is preserved.
How scriptural is the first part of the passage !
"Let bim that thinketh be standeth uke heed lest
he fall." — 1 Cor, T. ]2,
" He hath laid in his heart. Tush, I shall never be
Pa. X. 6,
The second part is also scriptural ;
"My strength is made perfect in weakness." —
2 Cor. lii, 9.
"When 1 am weak then am I strong." — 3 Cor. lii.
10,
In Timon of Alkens we find secure used as a
verb ; " Secure thy heart," — Act II. Sc, 2,
Again, in Othello :
" I do in
n the ei
-."—Act I. Sc3.
In Du Cange's GloM. is the verb "Secware
nudS pro securum reddere." In the " Alter Index
sive Glossarium" of Ainsworlh's Dictionary is the
verb "SecKro, as to live carelessly," In
the " Yerba partim Graces Lattne scripta, partim
barbara," &c., is " Securo, as securum reddo."
The meajis of the hare in the fable for the race
(that is, her swiftness) secured her ; the defects of
the tortoise (her slowness) proved her commodity,
i\ W. J.
The following are extracts from a MS. volume
of the sixteenlji century, containing, inter alia,
notes of the Manners and Superstitions of the
July 2. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Celtic Irish. Some of our readers may be able to
elucidate the obscure references :
« The Irish men they have a farme.
They, kepp the bread.
And make bot/ranne.
They make butter and eatt molchan.
And when they haue donne
They have noe shamm.
They burne the strawe and make loishran.
They eatt the flesh and drinke the broth,
And when they have done they say
Deo gradas is smar in Doieagh,**
The next appears to be a scrap of a woman's
song:
" Birch and keyre 'tis wal veyre a spyunyng deye a
tow me.
I am the geyest mayed of all that brought the somer
houme.
Justice Deyruse in my lopp, and senscal in my
roame/* &c.
John Devereux was Justiciary of the Pala-
tinate Liberty of Wexford in the early part of
Henry VIII.'s reign. That Palatinate was then
governed by a seneschal or " senscal." The jus-
tice would seem to have been a gallant and sensual
man, and the song may have been a little satirical.
Among the notes of the " Manners " of the Irish,
it is declared that —
*< Sett them a farme — the grandfather, father, son,
and they clay me it as their own : if not, they goe to
rebellion.**
Will any antiquary versed in Celtic customs
explain whether this claim of possession grew out
of any Celtic usage of tenancy ? And also point
out authorities bearing upon the customs of Celtic
agricultural tenancy ?
The next extract bears upon the communication
at Vol. vii., p. 332. :
** An XJUagh hath three purses. He runneth behind
dore to draw his money: one cutteth the throte of
another.**
Now, was an ZJltagh an Irish usurer or money-
lender? Your correspondent at page 332. re-
quests information respecting Roger Outlaw. Sir
William Betham, in a note to the ** Proceedings
against Dame Alice Ugteler," the famous pseudo-
[Kilkenny witch, remarks that " the family of Ut-
lagh were seated in Dublin, and filled several
situations in the corporation.*' Utlagh and Out-
law are the same surnames. The named Utlagh
also occurs in the Calendar of Printed Irish Patent
Bolls. William Utlagh, or Outlaw, was a banker
and money-lender in Kilkenny, in the days of
Edward I. He was the first husband of the witch,
and brother of Friar Koger Outlaw. In favour of
the latter, who was Prior of Kilmainham, near
Dublin, a mandamus, dated 10 Edw. II., was issued
for arrears due to him since he was '* justice and
chancellor, and even lieutenant of the justiciary,
as well in the late king's time as of the present
king's." He was appointed Lord Justice, or deputy
to the Lord Lieutenant, by patent dated Mar. 15,
9 Edw. III.
Many of the Irish records having been lost, your
correspondent will do an obliging service in point-
ing out the repository of the discovered roll. Per-
haps steps might be taken for its restoration. H.
[The following communication from our valued
correspondent, the Rev. H. T. Ellacombe, affords at
once a satisfactory reply to H.*s Query, and a proof of
the utility of " N. & Q.**]
Roger Oudawe (Vol. vii., p. 559.). — Thanks to
Anon, and others for their information.
As for " in viiij mense," I cannot understand it :
I copied it as it was sent to me. B. Etii was an
error of the press for R. Etii, but I purposely
avoided noticing it, because my very first commu-
nication on the subject to " N. & Q.," under my
own name and address, opened a very pleasing
correspondence, which has since led to the re-
storation of these Irish documents to their con-
geners among the public records in Dublin ; a
gentleman having set out most chivalrously from
that city at his own cost to recover them, and I
am happy to say he has succeeded ; and in the
English Quarterly Magazine there will soon
appear, I believe, an account of the documents in
question. It would not, therefore, become me to
give in this place the explanation which has been
kindly communicated to me as to the meaning of
the last conquest of Ireland ; but I have no doubt
it will be explained in the English Quarterly,
H. T. Ellacombe.
Rectory, Clyst St. George.
;^tn0r fifAtii*
Burial in an erect Posture. — In the north transept
of Stanton Harcourt Church, Oxon, the burial-
place of the Harcourt family, is a circular slab of
blue marble in the pavement, in which is inlaid a
shield of brass bearing the arms of Harcourt, — two
bars, dimidiated with those of Beke ; the latter,
when entire, forming a cros ancree. The brass is
not engraved, but forms the outline of the shield
and arms. It is supposed to be the monument of
Sir John, son of Sir Richard Harcourt and Mar-
faret Beke, who died 1330. (See extracts from
«ord Harcourt's " Account," in the Oxford Archi-
tectural Guide, p. 178.) Tradition relates, if my
memory does not mislead me, that the knight was
buried beneath this stone in an erect posture, but
assigns no reason for this peculiarity. Is the pro-
bability of this being the case supported by any,
and what instances ? Or does the legend merely
owe its existence to the circular form of the stone?
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[No. 19a.
I ihiak that its diameter is about two feet If
Mb. Fbasbr has not met with the information
already, he may be interested, with reference to his
Query on " Dimidiation " (Vol. yu^ p. 548.), in
learning that the above-mentioned Margaret was
daughter and coheiress of John Lord Beke of
Eresby, who by his will, made the 29th of £dw. L,
devbed the remainder of his arms to be divided
between Sir Robert de Willoughby and Sir John
de Harcourt. And this may lead to the farther
Query, whether dimidiation was originally or uni-
Tersally resorted to in the case of coheiresses ?
Cheyebells.
The Archbishop of Armagh^ s Cure for* the Gout,
1571. — Extracted from a letter from Thomas
Lancaster, Archbishop of Armagh, to Lord
Burghley, dated from Dublin, March 25, 1571 : —
** I am sorofull for that yo' honor is greved w*'» the
goute, from the w^^ I beseche Almighty God deliver
you, and send you health ; and yf (it) shall please y'
honor to prove a medlcen for the same vf^^ I brought
owt of Duchland, and have eased many w*^ it, 1 trust in
God it shall also do you good; and this it is. Take
ij spaniel whelpes of ij dayes olde, scald them, and
cause the entrells betaken out, but wash them not.
Take 4 ounces brymstone, 4 ounces torpentyn, I ounce
parmacete, a handfull nettells, and a quantyte of oyle
of balme, and putt all the aforesayd in them stamped,
and sowe them up and rost them, and take the dropes
and anoynt you wheare your grefe is, and by God*s
grace yo* honor shall fynd helpe." — From the Original
in the State Paper Office.
Sp£8.
The last known Survivor of General Wolffs
Army in Canada. — In a recent number of the
Montreal Herald^ mention is made of more than
twenty persons whose ages exceed one hundred
years. The editor remarks that —
** The most venerable patriarch now in Canada
is Abraham Miller, who resides in the township of
&rey, and is 115 years old. In 1758 he scaled the
cliffs of Quebec with General Wolfe, so that his resi-
dence in Canada is coincident with British rule in the
province. He is attached to the Indians, and lives in
idl respects like them."
w.w.
Malta.
National Methods of Applauding, — Clapping
with the hands is ^oing out of use in the United
States, and stamping with the feet is taking its
. {^ce. When Mr. Combe was lecturing on phre-
nology at the Museum building in Philadelphia
twelve or thirteen years ago, he and his auditors
were much annoyed by the pedal applause of a
company in the room above, who were listening to
, the concerts of a negro band. Complaint was
made to the authorities of the Museum Society ;
.but the answer irs^i that nothing could be done, as
stamping of the feet was ^^ the national metkod of
applauding."
The crying of " hear him ! hear him ! " during
the delivery of a speech, is not in use in the United
States, as an English gentleman discovered who
settled here a few years ago. He attended a meet-
ing of the members of the church to which he had
attached himself, and hearing something said that
pleased him, he cried out " hear him ! hear him ! **
Upon which the sexton came over to him, and
told him that, unless he kept himself quiet, he
would be under the necessity of turning him out
of church. M. E.
Philadelphia.
Curious Posthumous Occurrence. — If the follow-
ing be true, though in ever so limited a manner,
it deserves investigation. Notwithstanding his
twenty-three years' experience, the worthy grave-
digger must have been mistaken, unless there is
something peculiar in the bodies of Bath people !
But if the face turns down in any instance, as
asserted, it would be right to ascertain the cause,
and why this change is not general. It is now
above twenty years since the paragraph appeared
in the London papers : —
" A correspondent in the Bath Herald states the
following singular circumstance : — * Having occasion
last week to inspect a grave in one of the parishes of
this city, in which two or three members of a family
had been buried some years since, and which lay in
very wet ground, I observed that the upper part of the
coffin was rotted away, and had left the head and
bones of the skull exposed to view. On inquiring qf
the grave-digger how it came to pass that I did not
observe the usual sockets of the eyes in the skull, he
replied that what I saw was the hind part of the head
(termed the occiput, I believe, by anatomists), and that
the face was turned, as usual, to the earth 1 1 — Not
exactly understanding his phrase * as usual,* I inquired
if the body had been b^iried with the face upwards, as
in the ordinary way; to which he replied to my
astonishment, in the afBrmative, adding, that in the
course of decomposition the face of every individual
turns to the earth ! ! and that, in the experience of
three-and-twenty years in his situation, he had never
known more than one instance to the contrary.* "
A. B. C.
^ntxiti*
DID CAPTAIN COOK ITEST DISCOVER THE SAHDWICK
ISLAin>S ?
In a French atlas, dated 1762, in my pnos-
session, amongst the numerous non-existing
islands laid down in the map of the Pacific, and
the still more numerous cases of omission in-
evitable at so early a period of Polynesian dis-
covery, there is inserted an island styled '^I. St.
Fran9ob," or " I, g. Francisco," which lies in
Joi-T 2. 1853.]
NOTES AND QtJERrEa
ahoat 20° N. and 224° E. from the meridiw ol
Ferro, and, of course, slrnost exoctlj in the eitu-
Ationof Owhjhee. That tbia large md loftj group
BUT have bwn seen by some other voyager long
beKH^ is far from improbable; but, bejoad a
question, Cook was the first to visit, describe, and
lay them down correctly in our maps. Professor
Ueyen, however, as quoted in Johnston's Phyaicai
Ath*, mentions these islands in terms which would
almost lead one to suppose that he, the Professor,
considered them to have been known to the
Spaniards in Anson's time or earlier, and that
they had been regular calling places for the gal-
leons in those days! It is difficult to conceive
auch a man capable of such a mistake ; but if he
did not suppose them to have been discovered
before Cook's voynge in 1778, bis words are sin-
gularly calculated to deceive the render on that
point J. S. Wabdek.
Celtic LeiicoD. By the Rev. Robert Willums, M.A.,
Oion., to be published in one toL 4to., price 31i, ed."
When shall we see this desirable lexicon? I
was reminded of it the other day by hearing of
the subscriptions on foot for the publication of the
great Irish dictionary, which the eminent Irish
scholars Messrs. O'DoDOvan and Curry have had
in hand for many years. Eibionhacb.
. Mb. KiNGSLEit records a superstition of the
Cornish miners, which I have not seen noted else-
where. In reply to the question, " What are the
Knockers f " Tregarva answers t
" They are ike ghmtt, the miners holrj, o/ the Old
JilBS that crucified our Lord, and vert tent for slauet bi/
: and we find
tbeii
old >
Uing-h.
call Jem
ir blocks of the bottom of the great logs, which
we call Jem' tin: and then, a town among us, too,
which we call Mariit Jea, but the old name was Ma-
nalon. that means the Bitterness of ZioD, they tell me ;
and bitter work it tras for them no doubt, poor souls'
We used to break into the old shafts and adiu which
they had made, and And old stags-horn pickaies, that
enimbled to pieces when we brought them lo grass.
And they say that if a man will listen of a still night
about those old shafts, he may hear the ghosts of them
at working, knocking, and picking, as clear as if ihere
was a man at work in the neat leiel."— Veait; a
Proilan: Lond. I85I. p. S5S.
Miners, as a class, are peculiarly susceptible of
impressions of the unseen world, and the super-
an^ work on Cornish folk lore which alludes
this superstition respecting the Jews? It would
be useless, I dare say, to consult Carew, or Borlase ;
besides, I have not them by me.
Apro^ to Cornish matters, a dictionary with
a very tempting title was advertised for publication
two or three years ago :
" Geslerar Cernewac, a Dictionary of the Cornish
Dialect of the Cymraeg or ancient British Language,
in which the words are elucidated by numerous ex-
amples from the Cornish works now remaining, with
^inar tStuttiti.
Clerical Duel. — I shall be obliged to any cor-
respondent who will supply the name of the
courtier referred to in the following anecdote,
which is to be found in Burckhurdi's Kirchen- ,
GesdhicMe der Dctitschen Gemeinden in London,
Tub. 1798, p. 77.
Anton Wilbelm Biihme, who came over as
chaiibin with Prince George of Denmark, officiated
at the German Chapel, St. James's, from the year
1705 to 1722. He waa afavourite ofQueenAnne,
and a.friend of Isaac Watts. On one occasion he
preached against adultery in a way which gave
great offence to one of the courtiers present, who
conceived that a personal attack on himself was
Intended. Me accordingly t b !l t the
preacher, which was without h t t pted;
and at the time and place app t d h h plain
made his appearance in full I w th his
Bible in his hand, and gave th b 1) a lec-
ture which led to their reco t nd f nd-
I should like also to know whether there is any
other authority for the story than that which I
have quoted. S. R. Maitlanb.
Gloucester.
Pistol. — What is the date of the original intro-
duction of this word into our vocabulary in either
of the senses in which it is equivocally used by
Falstaff in 1 IitKr)j IV., Act V. Sc. 3. ? In the
sense of fire-arms, pistols seem to have been un-
known by that name as late as the year 1541 ; for
the Stat. 33 Hen. VIII. c. 6., after reciting the
murders, &c. committed " with cross-bows, little
abort band-guns, and little bagbuts," prohibits the
possession of " any hand-gun other than such as
ihall be in the stock and gun of the length of one
whole yard, or any h^but or demibake other than
iuch as shall be in the stock and gun of the
length of three quarters of one yard." But
throughout the act there is no mention of the
word " pistol." J. F. M.
Council of Laodicea, Canoa 35. — Can any of
pour readers inform mc whether, in any early
iTork on the Councils, the word angelos is in the
sxt, without baying ungulos in the margin ? If
10, oblige me by stating the editions:
CLEBicrs (D).
8
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No, 192.
Petmycomequick^ adjoining Plymouth. — The Bath
and West of England Agricultural Society held
their recent annual meeting here. Will any of
jour correspondents oblige me with the derivation
of this remarkable word ? R. H. B.
Park the Antiquary. — In a note to the third
Tolume (p. Ixxiii.) of the Orenvitte Correspondence
is the following passage : *^ Barker has printed a
second note, . which Junius is supposed to have
■written to Garrick, upon the authority of Park
the antiquary, w?io states that he found it in a co-
temporary newspaper," &c. This is not strictly
correct. Barker says (p. 190.), " The letter was
found in a copy of Junius belonging to [Query,
* which had belonged to ?] T. Park, &c. He had
[Query, it is presumed ?] cut it out of a news-
paper ; but unfortunately has omitted to furnish
the date of the newspaper." [Query, How then
known to be cotemporary ?] The difference is
important ; but where is the copy containing this
letter ? By whom has it been seen ? By whom
and when first discovered? Where did Barker
find the story recorded ? When and where first
printed? P. T. A.
Honorary D.C,L.''s. — It was mentioned in a
report of proceedings at the late Installation, that
the two royal personages honoured with degrees,
having been aoctored by diploma, would be en-
titled to vote in Convocation, — a privilege not
possessed by the common tribe of honorary
D.C.L.'s.
Can you inform me whether Dr. Johnson had,
or ever exercised, the right referred to in virtue
of his M.A. degree (conferred on the publication
of the Dictionary), or of the higher academical
dignity to which his name has given such a world-
wide celebrity ? Cantabsigiensis.
Battle of Villers en Couche. — Some of your cor-
respondents, better versed than myself in military
matters, will doubtless render me assistance by
replying to this Query. Where can I find a
copious and accurate account of the battle, or per-
haps I should rather say skirmish, of Villers en
Couche ? If I am rightly informed, it must be one
of the most remarkable actions on record, when
the comparative numbers of the troops engaged
are taken into consideration. We have, as an heir-
loom in our family, a medal worn by an ofiicer on
that occasion: it is suspended from a red and
white ribbon, and is inscribed thus :
** rORTlTUDINE
VILLERS EK COUCHE.
24th APRIL,
1794."
I do not remember to have read any account of
the battle ; but, as I have heard from the lips of
one who gained his information from the omcer
before alluded to, the particulars were these : — •
General Mansell, with a force consisting of two>
squadrons of the 15th Hussars, and one squadron
of the German Legion, two hundred and seventy^
two in all, charged a body of the French army, ten
thousand strong. The French were formed in a
hollow square : but five times, as I am informed,
did our gallant troops charge into and out of the
square, till the French, struck with a sudden panic,
retreated with a loss of twelve hundred men. I
am desirous of authenticating this almost incredible
account, and shall be thankful for such information
as may guide me to an authoritative record of the
action in question. W. Sparrow Simpson, B.A.
Dr. Misaubin. — Will any of your numerous
correspondents give me any information, or refer
me to any work where I can find it, respecting
Dr. Misaubin, who appears to have practised in
London during the first half of the last century ?
What was the peculiarity of his practice ?
Grutik,.
Kemble, WiUet, and Forbes. — What are the
two concluding lines of an epigram published tea
or twelve years ago, beginning, —
" The case of Kemble, Willet, and Forbes,
Much of the Chancellor's time absorbs ;
If I were the Chancellor 1 should tremble
At the mention of Willet, Forbes, and Kemble ** ?
Philadelphia.
Piccalyly. — The ornament, somewhat between
a hood, a scarf, and an armlet, worn hanging over
the right shoulder of judges and Serjeants at law,
is called a piccalyly. What is the origin of thi&
peculiarity of judicial costume, what are the
earliest examples of it, and what its etymology ?
No JUBGE^
Post-Office about 1770. — Mr. Smith, in the not^^
prefixed to the Grenville Correspondence, say*
several of Junius*s letters appear to have been
sent from the same post-office ** as the post-mark
is ''peny post payd,* " — a peculiarity of spelling
not likely to occur often. Have any of your cor-
respondents letters of that date with a like post-^
mark ? and, if so, can they tell us where posted ?
P. A. O.
" Carefully examined and weU-authertticated.''^—-'
I agi'ee with Mr. Cramp (Vol. vii., p. 569.) that
" the undecided question of the authorship of^
Junius requires that every statement should be
carefully examined, and (as far as possible) only
well-authenticated facts be admitted as evidence.
I take leave, therefore, to remind him that my
Question (Vol. iii., p. 262.) remains unanswered ;^
tnat I am anxious that he should authenticate hi*
Statement (p. 63.), and name some of the ^ many**
Jolt 2. 1853.]
NOTES AND QtTERIES.
Sir Heitter JRuleff.—Who was the author of the
Viiions of Sir HeUter Ryley, and whence did it
derive its name? It iriui publielfed in 1710, and
consists of papers periodicallj published on serious
subjects. It was one of the mnnj ahort-lived
periodicals thut sprung up in imitation of the
TaiUr, and appears to have died a natural death
at the end of the so-called first volume.
H. T. RiLBT.
Effigies imtk folded Handi. — On the south side
of Llangathen Church, Carmarthenshire, is a huge
monument (of the style well designated as bed-
stead) for Dr. Anthony Kudd, Bishop of SL
David's, and Anne Dalton, bis wife, 1616, with
their recumbent effigies, and those of four sons
kneeling at their head and feet. From all these
figures the iconoclasts had smitten the hands up-
raised in prayer, and they have been replaced by
plaister hands folded on the bosom. Tbe effect is
singular. Is there any other instance of such re-
TStoration? * E. D.
mt, interjections given by Brockett. Many andihaU,
that I w|[l I Marry come up. my dirty csusi's, a saying
addressed to aiiy one who'aSects excessive delicacy.]
Doner Cotir(.— "What is the origin of the ex-
pression of a "Dover Court, where all are talkers
and none are hearers?" There is a place called
by this name in the vicinity of Harwich ?
H. T. KiMT,
[Tliere Is a legend, that Dover-Court Church in
Essex once possessed a miraculous cross wbicb spoke,
thus noticed la the Collier of Croydtm :
" And hoT the TOad of Dovercol did speak.
Confirming his opinions to be true."
So tliat it is possibly as Nares suKt^e^its. tliat this
overb:
scene of c>
T Court; all speaker
alluded
Passage in Bishop Horsley. — In the Introduction
to Vtnim Horum, a rather curious work by Henry
Care, being a comparison of the Thirty-nine Ar-
ticles with the doctrines of Presbyterians on tbe
one hand, and the tenets of the Church of Borne
■on the other, is an extract from Dr. Hakewill's
Ansurer (1616) to Dr. Carter, "an apostate to
Popery." In it occurs the following passage :
"And so, through Calvin's sides, you striKe at the
throat and heart of our religion." Will you allow
me to ask if a similar expression is not used by
Bishop Horsier in some one of his Charges ?
S. S. S.
before
you a
1 your I
and what ia not :
1 it is of late be-
come the fashion lo abuse under the name o( Calvinism,
you can distinguish with certainly that part of it which
is Dothing better than Caliinism, and that which be-
longs to our cammon Christianity, and the general
faith oF the Reformed Churches; kit, uAcn you mtaa
Old;/ lo fall fuvl of CidBiHiim, you thould tmaarily altaci
wmething more lacrtd anil of higher origin."']
"Marry comevp!" — What is tbe origin of this
expression, found in tbe old novelists ? It perhaps
originates in an adjuration of tbe Virgin Mary.
If so, how did it gain its present form ?
H. T. Eu-Br.
[Halliwell explains it as an Intarjeclion equivalent
4a indeed I Marry on tu, marry eomt tqi, Marry tonu
donr, which therefore stood open night and day ; and
that the resort of people to it was much and very
great."]
Porter. — In what book is tbe word porter,
meaning the malt liqnnr so called, first found ?
I have an impression that the earliest use of it that
I have seen b in Nicholas Amherst's Terra Filiia,
about 1726. H. T. Kilet.
[We douht whether an earlier use of this word, as
descriptive of a malt liquor, will be found than the one
noticed by our correspondent ; for it was only about
1722 that Harwood, a Ixindon brewer, commenced
brewing this liquor, which he called " entire," or " en-
tire butt," implying that it was drawn from one cast
or butt. It subsequently ohtaiued the name of fiar'er,
from its consumption by porters and lahourers.]
Dr. Whiiaker's Ingenious Earl. —
" To our equal surprise and vciation at times, we
find the ancients possessed of degrees of physical know-
quainted outseliE-i. I need not appeal in proof of this
to that extraordinary operation of chemistry, by which
Moses reduced the golden calf to powder, and then
give it mingled with water as a drink to the Israelites ;
sn operation the most difficult in all tbe processes of
chemistry, and concerning which it is a sufficient
honour for the moderns to say. that they have once or
twice practised it. I need not appeal to the mummies
of Egypt, in which the art of embalming bodies is so
eminenily displayed, that all attempts at imitation have
only showed the infinite superiority of the original to
the copy. I need not appeal lo the gilding upon those
mummies so fresh in its lustrej to the stained silk of
them, so vivid in its colours after a lapse of aOOOyears ;
to the ductility and raalteabiiity of glass, discovered by
an artist of ILome in the days of Tiberius, but instantly
lost by the immediate murder of the man nnder the
orders of the emperor, and just now boasted vainly to
be re-discoveted by the wildly txcentric, yet vividly
vigorous, genius of that earl who professes to teach law
to my lord cbaDceUor, and divinity to my lords the
10
NOTES AND QUERIES
[No. 192.
bishops, who proposes to send a ship, by the force of
steam, with all the velocity of a ball firom the mouth of
a cannon, and who pretends by the power of his steam-
impelled oars to beat the waters of the ocean into the
hardness of adamant; or to the burning-glasses of
Archimedes, recorded in their effects by credible
writers, actually imitated by Proclus at the siege of
Constantinople with Archimedes* own success, yet
boldly pronounced by some of our best judges, demon-
strably impracticable in themselves, and lately de-
monstrated by some faint experiments to be very prac-
ticable, the skill of the moderns only going so far as to
render credible the practices of the ancients. ** — The
Course of Hannibal, by John Whitaker, B. D., 1794,
vol. ii. p. 142.
Who was the earl whose tmiTersality of genius
is described above by this "laudator teniporis
acti?" H.J.
[Charles Earl Stanhope, whose versatility of talent
succeeded in abolishing the old wooden printing-press,
with its double pulls, and substituting in its place the
beautiful iron one, called after him the ** Stanhope
Press." His lordship*s inventive genius, however,
ikiled in the composing-room; for his transmogrified
letter-cases, with his eight logotypes, once attempted
at The Timea^ office, were soon abandoned, and the old
process of single letters preferred.]
Dissimulate, — ^Where is the earliest use of this
word to be found ? It is to be met with in Ber-
nard Mandeville^s Fable of the Bees, 1723 ; but is
not to be found, I think, in any dictionary. I was
once heavily censured at school for using it in my
theme ; but I have more than once of late seen it
used in a leading article of 77ie Times,
H. T. Riley.
[Dissimulate occurs in Richardson's Dictionary, with
the two following examples :
<* Under smiling she was dissimulate,
Prouocatiue with blinkes amorous.**
Chaucer, The Testament of Creseide,
" We commaunde as kynges, and pray as men, that
al thyng be forgiuen to theim that be olde and broken,
and to theim that be yonge and lusty, to dissimulate for
a time, and nothyng to be forgiuen to very yong chil-
dren.*'— Golden Boke, c. ix.]
BISHOP KEN.
(Vol. vii., p. 526.)
By converting a noun into a surname, Dodsley
has led J. J. J. into a natural, but somewhat
amusing mistake. The lines quoted are in Horace
Walpole*8 well-known epistle, from Florence, ad-
dressed to his college friend T[homas] A[shton,]
tutor of the Earl of P[lymouth].
In Walpole's Fugitive Pieces, printed at Straw-
berry Hill, 1758 (the copy of which, now before
me, was given by Walpole to Cole in 1762, and
contains several notes by the latter), the passage
stands correctly thus :
** Or. with wise ken, judiciously define.
When Piits marks the honorary coin.
Of Caracalla, or of Antonine."
Your correspondent refers to an edition of the
Collection of Poems of 1758. In a much lat«r
edition of iJiat work, viz. 1782, the line is again
printed — •
** Or with wise kkn,*' &c.
It is strange that the mistake was not corrected,
at the instance of Walpole himself, during this long
interval.
Turning to Bishop Ken, I would observe that in
his excellent Life of this prelate, Mr. Anderdon
has given the three well-known hymns " word for
word," as first penned. These, Mr. A. tells us, are
found, for the first time, in a copy of the Manual
of Prayers for the Use of the Winchester Scholars,
printed in 1700. The bishop's versions vaxy so
very materially from those to which we have been
accustomed from childhood, that these original
copies are very interesting. Indeed, within five
years after their first appearance, and during the
author's life, material changes were made, sever^
of which are retained to the present hour. It must
be admitted that some of the stanzas, as they first
came from the bishop's pen, are singularly rugged
and inharmonious, almost justifying the request
made by the lady to Bjrrom (as I have stated else-
where *), "to revise and polish the bishop's poems.**
How came these hjrmns, so far the mostpopular of
his poetical works, to be omitted by Hawkins in
the collected edition of the poems, printed in
4 vols., 1721 ?
My present object is, to call your attention to %
" Midnight Hymn," by Sir Thomas Browne, which
will be found in his works (vol. ii. p. 113., edit.
Wilkin). Can there be a question that to it Ken
is indebted for some of the thoughts and expres-
sions in two of his own hymns ?
The good bishop's fame will not be lessened by
his adopting what was good in the works of the
learned physician. He doubtless thought far more
of the benefit which he could render to the youth-
ful Wykehamists, than of either the originality or
smoothness of his own verses.
Sir Thomas Browne.
" While I do rest, my soul advance ;
Make my sleep a holy trance :
That I may, my rest being wrought,
Awake into some holy thought.
And with as active vigour run
My course as doth the nimble sun.
" Sleep is a death : O make me try,
By sleeping, what it is to die !
* Sketch of Bishop Ken^s Life, p. 107.
JtiLT 2. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
rr
And as gently lay my bead
On my grave, as now my bed.
" These are ray drowsy days ; in vain
I do now wake to sleep again.
O come that hour when I shall never
Sleep again, but wake for ever I
*< Guard me *gainst those watchful foes.
Whose eyes are open while mine close ;
Let no dreams my head infest,
But such as Jacob's temples blest.**
Bishop Ken.
** Aw^e, my soul, and with the sun
Thy daily stage of duty run.
" Teach me to live that I may dread
The grave as little as my bed.
*< O when shall I in endless day
For ever chase dark sleep away.
And endless praise with th* Heavenly cboir.
Incessant sing and never tire.
" Tou, my blest Guardian, whilst I sleep.
Close to my bed your vigils keep ;
Divine love into me instil.
Stop all the avenues of ill.
'< Thought to thought, with my soul converse
Celestial joys to me rebearse ;
And in my stead, all the night long.
Sing to my God a grateful song.**
In the work referred to — one of the most
valuable and best edited of modern days — Mr.
Wilkin, when speaking of a fine passage on music
in the Religio Medici (vol. iL p. 106.), asks whe-
ther it may not have suggested to Addison the
beautiful conclusion of his Hynm on the Glories of
Creation :
** What tho' in solemn silence, all,** &c.
This passage in Sir Thomas Browne appears for-
cibly to have struck the gifted author of Confes-
sions of an English Opium-^ater (see p. 106. of
that work). J. H. Mabkland.
BOHNS EDITION OF HOVEDEN.
(Vol. vii., p. 579.)
Mb. KiiiEx mistakes my purpose if he thinks
that my object was to make a personal attack on
him ; and for anything in my last communication
which may have appeared to possess that ten-
dency, I hereby freely express my regret. Still I
cannot allow that he has explained away the mis-
takes of which I complained, and of which I still
have to complain. The kingdom of Cork never
** extended to within a short distance of Waterford ; "
■and the territory of Desmond was never co-exten-
sive with Cork, having been always confined to
the county of Kerry. Mb. Relet, therefore, is in
error when he uses " Cork " and ** Desmond " as
-synonymous. Again, he falls into the same mis-
take bv assuming "Crook, Hook Point, or The
Crook,' to be synonyms. I never heard that
Henry 11. landed at Uook Point, which is in the
county of Wexford, and from which a land journey
to Waterford would be very circuitous. At Crook,
however, on the opposite side of Waterford
Harbour, and within the shelter of Creden Head,
he is said to have done so; and as that point
answers pretty exactly to the Crock of Hoveden,
why assume some indefinite point of the " Kingdom
of Cork " as the locality, even supposing that its
boundary did approach Waterford city f Really
Mb. Riley's explanations but make matters worse.
With regard to " Erupolensis " being an alias
of Ossoriensis, I may quote the authority of the
learned De Burgo, who, speaking of the diocese
of Ossory, observes :
'* Quandoque tamen nuncupata erat EyrupoUnais
ab Et/ro Flumine, vulgo Neoro, quod KUkenniam al-
luit.*' — Hibemia Dominicana, p. 205. note i,
I maintain that the reading public has just cause
to complain, not (as I said on a former occasion)
because the editor of such a book as Hoveden's
Annals does not know everything necessary to
elucidate his author, but because baseless con-
jectures are put forward as elucidations of ihe
text. James Gbavxs.
Kilkenny.
COLEBIDGE6 CHBISTABEL.
(Vol. vii., pp. 206. 292.)
It is difficult to believe that the third part of
Christabel, published in Blackwood for June, 1819,
vol. V. p. 286., coidd have either " perplexed the
public, * or " pleased Coleridge.** In the first place,
it was avowedly written by " Morgan Odoherty ; "
and in the next, it is too palpable a parody to have
pleased the original author, who could hardly
have been satisfied with the raving rhapsodies put
into his mouth, or with the treatment of his inno-
cent and virtuous heroine. This will readily be
supposed when it is known that the Lady Gre-
raldine is made out to have been a man in woman's
attire, and that ^^ the mark of ChristabeVs shame,
the seal of her sorrow," is neither more nor less
than the natural consequence of her having shared
her chamber with such a visitor.
Is your correspondent A. B. R. correct in stating
this parody to have been the composition of Dr.
Maginn ? In the biography of this brilliant writer
in the twenty-third volume of the Dublin Uni'
versity Magazine^ Dr. Moir, who had undoubtedly
good opportunities of knowing, mentions that h&
first contribution to Blackwood was the Latin
translation of " Chevy Chase," in the number few
November 1819 ; if this be correct, many of the
cleverest papers that appeared under the name of
Odoherty, and which are all popularly attributed
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 192.
to Afagino, muat have been tbe work of other
authors, a circumstance which I had been already
led to Bus^ct from the frequent local allusions to
Scotland in general, and to Edinburgh in par-
ticnlar, which could have Bcorcelj proceeded from
the pen of a native of Cork, who had then never
visited Scotland. Since Dr. Moir's own death, it
appears that the Eve of St. Jerry, and the Rhyme
of the Aunciertl Waggonere, have been claimed for
him, as well as some other similar pieces ; and I
believe that the series of Boxuaa, which also ap-
peared under the name of the renowned ensign
and adjutant, was written b; Professor Wilson.
Mag^n'a contributions were at first under varioua
aignatures, and some time elapsed before he made
. use of the noin de guerre of Morgan Odohertj,
- which eventually became so identified with him.
J. S. Wabseh.
Falemoalei Row.
is substituted for it. I have a note of one other
instance from Perkins on Rev. ii. 28, (ed. 1606) :
■' For as the aunne in the spring time quickeneth
In conclusion, may I request that if any genuine
instance of the use of thia word Hi, is olraerved by
any of your many contributors, they will commu-
nicate the fact to you ? At present we can only
BO back to Shakspeare, in his Wiater't Tale and
Henry VIII. B. H. C.
KEIGDTI.ET, Ma. Rtk, and myself, are more or
less mistaken. 1. Mr. Keiqbtley, in his quo-
tation from Fairfax's Taaso (Mb. Sihoeb's ac-
curate reprint, 1817), has Ai's in both lines. 2. Mb.
Rtb, in understanding me to refer to any trans-
lation proper ; unless Sternhold and Hopkins are
to be considered as having produced one. 3. My-
aelf, in aapposing the old metrical version in the
Book of Common Prayer originally had the word
its. I copied from the Oxford edition in fol. of
1770 ; but a 4to. edition, " printeii by lohn Daye,
dwelling over Aldersgate, anno 1574," does not
exhibit the word in the places specified; we have
instead her in both places.
Hitherto, then, the oldest examples of the use
of thia word have been adduced from Shakspeare.
These are to be found in the first folio, but are in
each case printed with the apostrophe after the
t, — iCs. This method of writing the word, how-
ever, soon disappeared, for in a treatise of Pemble's,
printed 1635 (the author died in 1623), it appears
aa we write it now :
" If faith alone by id own virtue and force,"— JTorf),
fol. p. 171.
I have not observed the fact remarked, that be-
sides the use of hU, her, hereof, thereof, of it, and
the, it was customary to employ the unchanged
word ii for the possessive case. I will (jive an
example or two. In the Genevan version, at
Rom. viii. 20,, wa read "Kot of it owne wille."
This passage is thus quoted in 1611 and in 1622,
bnt in a later edition of the same work, 1616, iti
As your correspondent Crahmorb has long been
a deserter from the ranks of " N. & Q.," I may
perhapa, without presumption, for once " stand in
his shoes," and reply to the challenge addressed to
him by V. M.
Much obscurity has ^I along prevailed among
the many biographers of Milton, in reference to
the family of Ehzabeth Minshull, his third wife,
and eventually, for more than fifty years, his
widow. Philips, Warton, Todd, and numerous
others, state her to have been "the daughter of
Mr. Minshull, of Cheshire," — a very vague asser-
tion! when we consider that there were at least
three or four different families of that name then
existing in the county. Pennant, who delighted
in particularities, sometimes even at the expense
of historical fact, tells us, fur the first time, in 1782,
that she was the daughter of Mr. (or Sir) Edward
Minshull, of Stoke, near Nantwicb, and that she
died at tbe latter town in March, 1726, at an ad-
vanced age. Mr. Ormerod, again, whose splendid
History of Cheshire will be the standard authority
of the county for ages after he himself ia carried
to his fathers, has unfortunately adopted the same
conclusion, and ao given a colour, as it were, to
this erroneous statement of our Cambrian anti-
quary. The Rev. Benjamin Mardon's paper,
printed in the Jaamal of the British Archaological
Association for 1849, is another and more recent
instance of the way in which such errors as thia
may become perpetuated. Another writer (Palmer)
conjectures her to have been the daugliter of Min-
shull of Manchester; but thia alao has been proved
to be entirely destitute of foundation.
The truth of the matter is (and I am indebted
to Mr. Fitchett Marsh's clear and succinct disser-
tation in tbe MisceUaay of the Chetham Society
for the information), the poet's widow was
daughter of Mr. Handle Minshull, of Wistaston,
in me county of Chester, whose great-great-
Srandfather, a younger son of Minshull of Min-
lull, settled on a small estate there in tbe I'eigit
of Queen Elizabeth, and so founded the house ot
Minshull of .Wistaston. Milton was introduced
to his Cheshire wife by his friend Dr. Paget ; and
July 2. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
13
k was by his advice that the author of Paradise
Lost once more entered into the bonds of wedlock.
Mr. Marsh, to clear up all doubt upon the subject,
and having previously -established the identity of
the family, examined the parish retjister at Wist-
aston, and there found that " Elizabeth, the
daughter of Randolph MynghuU, was baptized the
80th day of December, 1638;" so that, if baptized
shortly after birth, she must have been about
twenty-six years old when united to Milton in
1664, and about eighty-nine at her death, which
occurred in 1727.
V. M., and all others who desire farther en-
lightenment on the subject, will do well to refer
to the volume before mentioned, which forms the
twenty-fourth of the series published by the
Chetham Society. T. Hughes.
Chester.
BOOKS OF EMBLEMS JACOB BEHMEN*
(Vol. vii., pp. 469. 579.) •
Perhaps you will allow poor old Jacob Behmen,
the inspired cobbler of Gorlitz, a niche in your
temple of writers of emblems. I think he is legi-
timately entitled to that distinction. His works
are nearly all couched in emblems ; and, besides
his own figures, his principles were pictorially illus-
trated by his disciple William Law (the author of
Hie Way to Divine Knowledge, The Serious Call,
&c.), in some seventeen simple, and four com-
pound emblematic drawings. Of these the most
remarkable, and in fact the most intelligible, are
three compound emblems representing the Crea-
tion, Apostasy, and Redemption of Man. Every
phase of each stage in the souFs history is dis-
closed to view by means of double and single
doors. We are now concerned only with such of
Behmen^s emblematic works as have been trans-
lated into English. The following list contains
only those in my own library. I am acquainted
with no others :
(1.) "The Works of Jacob Behmen, the Teutonic
Theosopher, to which is prefixed the Life of the
Author, with Figures illustrating his Principles,
left by the Rev. William Law, M.A. In four
thick Volumes, royal 4to. London : printed for
M. Richardson in Paternoster Row, mdcclxiv."
With a fine portrait of Behmen facing the title-
page of the first volume. This edition contains
the following works :
1. Aurora : the Day-spring, or Dawning of the Day
in the East ; or Morning-redness in the Rising of the
Sun: that is, the Root or Mother of Philosophy,
Astrology, and Theology, from the True Ground ; or,
A Description of Nature.
2. The Three Principles of the Divine Essence of
the Eternal : Dark, Light, and Temporary World.
S. Mysterium Magnum : or an Explanation of the
First Book of Moses called Genesis.
4. Four Tables of Divine Revelation.
5. The High and Deep-Searching of the Threefold
Life of Mai^^ through or according to the Three Prin-
ciples.
6. Forty Questions concerning the Soul, proposed
by Dr. Balthasar Walter, and answered hy Jacob
Behmen.
7. The Treatise of the Incarnation.
8. The Clavis, or an Explanation of some Principal
Points and Expressions.
9. Signatura Rerum.
10. Of the Election of Grace; or of God's Will to-
wards Man, commonly called Predestination.
11. The Way to Christ discovered in the following
Treatises : — I. Of True Repentance. II. Of True
Resignation. III. Of Regeneration. IV. Of Super-
natural Life.
12. A Discourse between a Soul hungry and
thirsty after the Fountain of Life, the sweet Love of
Jesus Christ, and a Soul enlightened.
13. A Treatise of the Four Complexions, or a Con-
solatory Instruction for a Sad and Assaulted Heart in
the Time of Temptation.
14. A Treatise of Christ's Testament, Baptism, and
the Supper.
(2.) " Theosophic Letters, or Epistles of the Man
from God enlightened in Grace, Jacob Behmen^
of Old Seidenburgh, wherein everywhere [are ?]
Divine Blessed Exhortations to true Repentance
and Amendment, as also Plaine Instructions con-
cerning the highly worthy and precious Know-
ledge of the Divine and Natural Wisdome ; toge-
ther with a Right Touchstone or Triall of these
Times, for an Introduction to the Author's other
Writings : published in English for the good of
the sincere Lovers of true Christianitie, by I. S.*"
(I have only a MS. copy of this publication.)
(3.) A beautiful MS. translation of " The Way
to Christ." This is hardly so accurate as the one
already referred to, though some of the expres-.
sions are better chosen. The date of this MS. is
about 1730, or earlier.
(4.) A fair MS. translation of Jacob Behmen's
treatise called " A Fundamental Instruction con-
cerning the Earthly and concerning the Heavenly
Mystery ; how they two stand in one another, and
how in the Earthly the Heavenly becometh mani-
fested or revealed, wherein then you shall see
Babell the great citty upon Earth stand with its
Forms and Wonders; and wherefore, or out of
what, Babell is generated, and where Antichrist
will stand quite naked. Comprised in Nine Texts.
Written May 8, 1620, in High Dutch." (I have
seen no printed translation of this treatise.)
(5.) MS. translation of the fourth treatise of
" The Way to Christ," viz. " of the Supersensual
Life." This is a less accurate rendering than
either of the others above mentioned.
Perhaps your mystic correspondents will kindly
furnish fists of other publications and MSS. of
[♦ J. Sparrow. — Ed.]
14
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 192.
" the Teutonick Theosopher." There are sixteen
more of his works, of which fiHeen are cow extant
!□ Hi^h Dutch. As old Behmen ie but little known
in tliia country, save by ill-repute, as having led
astray William Law in his old age, and, through
him, having tinctured the religious philosophy of
Coleridge, it way be worth noting, that no less a
philosopher than Schilling (to whom, as we know,
Coleridge stood so greaMy indebted) elole from
the Lusatian shoemaker the comer-stonea of his
Pk&o*ophy o/Nabire. C. Huhfibld Inqlbbt.
Binningham.
the woman is, as we term it, giTen away, if she be
a spinster, she ii to have her band uncoxiered; if a
widow, covered: the words are —
(VoL vii., p. 595.)
With regard to your correspondent Mb. G.
Brindlet Aceworth's Query respectine Baf-
faeWt Sposalizio, I am induced to think ttiat the
cmtode at the chnrch of the Santa Croce at Flo-
rence WHS risht as to Ua information. In the
copy which I have of the "Ordo ad faciendum
Sponsftlia," according to the ancient me of Salii-
■ ■ ■ ^ "^ n the
lis : quod si putlla Bil, diicooperlam hibeat mannin, n
JHO. ttclaM,"
There is no reason given for thin distinction,
nor do I ever remember to have seen it noticed.
F. B. W.
Tlie Spotalixuf, at "espouads," or hetrothiiig,
is certmniy a different ceremony from the mar-
riage. Is not the fact of yonn^ ladies popularly
MHisidering and calling the third finger of the
right band the engi^ed finger, and wearing a rinc
I that finger when engased, a confirmation M
' ■' " ^ ■ itthis "betrothal'^
joar correspondent's idea, ft
the ring was placed in the r^kt hand;
marriage ceremony on the left P
Mry, the ring is nndonbtedly to be pit
bride's right hand. Wheatiy indeed savs, that
" when the man espoases his wife with it (i. e. the
ring), he is to put it vpon the fourth Jhger of her
left hand;" and then refers, for the reason of this,
the vein going from this finger directly to the heart.
Now, what are the precise words of this rubric f
After giving directions for the benediction of the
ring, provided it has not previously been blessed,
the rubric goes on thns ;
" K autem anlea fuerit annulus ille benedietus tunc
statim poslquam ilr pOBuerit annulum super librum,
sccipiena sacerdos annulum tradst ipsum viro: quem
VIC accipiat mnnu sua Jeitera cum tribus principiili-
ontbus digitis, et msnu sua sinistra tenens deilenm
spouse docente sacerdote dic^t."
The man is to receive the ring from the priest
with the three principal fingers of the right hand ;
and then, holding the right hand of the bride with
his own left hand, he shall say, " With this ring,"
&c. He is then to place the ring on her thumb,
saying "In nomine Patris;" then on her second
finger, saying "et Filii ;" then on the third finger.
Baying "et Spiritua Sancti ;" then on the fourth
finger, saying "Amen;" and there he is to leave
it. There is not a word said about the bride's
left hand, the right is alone mentioned ; and why
should the man hold her right hand with his l^fl,
but that with his right hand he may the more
easily place the rin", jfrsi on the thumb, then on
the other fingers of her right hand, until it arrives
at its final destination f
While I am upon this subject, allow me to point
out another singular direction given in a rubric in
this same " Ordo ad faciendum Sponaalia." When
(Vol. vii., p. 2aS.)
leativ indeed says, that ,„™,.,. ,. . ,. „
his wife with it (1. e. the " • " ■ " desmms of interpreting windfaO, m
- ' ■• - -' necetsanty from its origin d(aioting a gain. He
is, perhaps, expecting a handsome bequest ; I wiidi
he may get it; but he may rely on it that the
windfaU of the bequest will be accompanied by the
windfall of the " Succession Act" Let us hear
what our great Doctor says; his first explanation
is, " Fruit blown down from the tree."
W. W.'s little boys and girls would d
windfall of unripe apples, at this time of the yei
a good ; tbey will make a pie for dinner. W. V
But let us see how Johnson illustrates lus ex-
planation :
■* Their bou^hi were too great for their stem, they
became a aindfallupan tlie sudden."— Batoi,, Essay 39.
Webster copies this for his first explanation, as
he does also our Dr's. second for his second; but
BB it is not his plan to illustrate by examples, he
is saved from the eccentricity of hia original.
If we refer to Bacon we shall be remijided of
Johnson's warning, that by " hasty detruncation
the general tendency of a sentence may be
changed." The sentence bore so haatily detrun-
cated, stands thus in the Essay :
" The SpaiUns were a nice people in point of natu-
ralisation, wliereby while they kept their compaase,
ttiey stood fjrme. But when then did spread, and
thtir houghti were becommen loo great for their stemme,
thry became a windfall upon the suddaine. ' Fotentia
Theg, in Johnson's mutilated sentence, refers to
the boughs ; in Bacon, to the Spartans ; so that, in
July 2. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
U
the first place, the Spartans are transformed into
boughs, and, in the next place, the boughs into
fruit. Detruncation, however, had nothing to do
with this latter metamorphosis ; and I am afraid
this is not a solitary instance of lexicographical
incongruity.
W. W. may assure himself that a windfall is
" whatever /a^ by the wind, or with similar sud-
denness or unexpectedness, whether bringing good
or ill."
And if he will take the trouble to refer to " The
Case of Impeachment of Waste," quoted by Mr.
Abbowsmith, Vol. vii., p. 375., he will find, only a
few lines before that gentleman's quotation begins,
a legal question at issue as to the right of property
in windfalls. Q.
Bloomsbury.
MB. JUSTICE NEWTON.
(Vol. vii., pp. 528. 600.)
It would ^eatly enhance the value of contribu-
tions to '^ N. & Q.," save much trouble, and often
lead to a more direct intercourse between persons of
similar pursuits, if contributors would drop initials,
and sign their own proper name and habitat; and
in saying this, I believe the Editor will second me.
If C. S. G. had done this, I should have been
happy to send him an envelope full of proofs that
Mr. Justice Newton did not die in 1444, for that
a fine was levied before him in 1448 ; that he is
not buried in Bristol Cathedral, but in the Wyke
Aisle in Yatton Church, Somerset, where may be
seen his efiSgies beautifully carved in alabaster, in
his judge's robes, and his head resting on a wheat-
sheaf or garb ; that there was no relationship be-
tween the second baronet of Hather, his arms
being cro«« hones^ &c., and those of the judge, who
was truly a Cradock, were three garbs, &c. I
would now beg leave to refer C. S. G. to my former
communications in "N. & Q." about Cradock
Newton, particularly Vol. ii., pp. 248. 427. ; Ckro-
nica Jvdicialia^ 1635 ; Foss's Lives of the Jvdges;
and a paper of mine in the forthcoming volume of
the Proceedings of the ArchcBological Institute at
Bristol H. T. Ejllacombe.
Rectory, Clyst St. George.
From C. S. G.*s reply to my inquiry respecting
Mr. Justice Newton I conclude that at least two
individuals of this name have, at different periods,
and at a considerable interval apart, occupied the
judicial bench.
The portrait I wish to trace is of a well-known
character of the Commonwealth era, and could not,
of course, have belonged to a judge then some two
centuries deceased. My omission to state this cir-
cumstance, in the first instance, has very naturally
occasioned complete misapprehension throughout.
Since my Query was written, a duplicate of the
drawing in the Bodleian (minus the inscription),
out of the Strawberry Hill collection, has, curiously
enough, appeared in an extensive public sale. It
was likewise said to be by Bulfinch ; and farther
examination leads me to infer that both this and
the Oxford copy were, in respect of artist, in all
probability not incorrectly described. As Bulfinch
lived temp. Charles II., and the Bodleian inscrip-
tion points to his original painting as *4n the hands
of Mr. Justice Newton," it may fairly be presumed
that a second judge of the name flourished in this
reign.
Substantially, then, my original Query yet re-
mains unanswered, notwithstanding C. S. G.*s
obliging reply. F. Kyttin Lenthall.
36, Mount Street, GhrasTenor Square.
photogbaphic cobbespondence.
Mr. Lyte's Treatment of Positives. — It would
be quite superfluous, after the very excellent
communication of Mb. Pollock, were I to give a
detailed account of my method of printing albumen
positives, as, in the main, we both follow the process
of Mr. Le Gray. But as we both have our own
improvements on the original process, I will ask
for space in which to record our differences in
manipulation.
First, in regard to the chloride of gold, I
always find, and I believe such is the experience
of many photographers, that all salts of gold,
though they heighten the effect at first, have a
slow, but sure, destructive action on the picture.
Next, I find that acetic acid, by generating^
^phurous acid, has a similar effect, and my care
was to try and make a solution which should be
free from these defects. I first take my positive,
which, as a general rule, I print at least half ai
dark again as the shade required. This done, I
wash it well with water, and next with salt and
water in the proportion of about half a grain per
gallon, or quite a tasteless solution ; this removes
all the nitrate of silver from the paper, or if there
is any left, the bath of salt decomposes it, leaving
none in the texture of the paper to unite with the
hypo., which otherwise forms a sticky substance,
difficult to remove, which may be readily seen on
looking through a positive which has been too
hastily finished in the usual way, giving a dark
shade, and a want of transparency to the lights.
I then place the picture in a bath composed as
follows :
Soda3 hyposul. - - - 3 oz.
Argent, chlorid. - - 70 grs.
Fotassii iodidi - - - 5 grs.
Pyrogallic acid - - - 1^ to 2 grs.
The iodide of potassium I add on the same prin-
ciple as Mb. Pollock^s iodide of silver, but as being
16
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 192.
more convenient, as immediately on being added
it decompose? some of the chloride of silver, and
forms iodide of silver. I am happy to find that
Mb. Pollock confirms me in the use of this salt,
which I had long thought to improve the tone of
my pictures. The liquid, which will become ra-
pidly very dark coloured, must be set aside in an
open vessel in a warm place for some weeks, e.g,
till, when a positive is placed in it, left for a short
time, and then washed with water, it shows clean
and not mottled in the light. The solution may
be kept always exposed, and much improves by
this : if much used, it should be replenished with
a simple solution of hypo, three ounces or two
ounces to the pint ; if little used, it may be filled
up as much as evaporates with pure water.
The positive is left in this solution till the re-
quired tint is obtained, when it is to be placed in
plain hypo, two ounces to the pint, and in about
a quarter of an hour transferred to a basin of pure
water, and well washed in several waters. The
other detail of Mb. Follock*s process is so ad-
mirably and clearly given, and so like that I
pursue, that I will not trouble your columns with
it again.
The after-bath of pure hypo, is not absolutely
necessary ; and where it is desired to obtain fine
olive, and dark sepia, and black tints, a better
tone results from washing well, long, and fre-
quently, with water alone.
This bath also gives very rich tints with paper,
prepared without albumen : viz. —
Chloride of ammonium - - 5 grs.
Water - - - - 1 oz.
Lay the paper on this, and then hang it up to dry,
and excite with ammonio-nitrate containing seventy
grains of nitrate of silver to one ounce of water,
hould the above solution not give the requisite
tints soon after being made, add more chloride of
silver; but bear in mind that the solution will
then soon become saturated when setting posi-
tives, and when this occurs it must be rectified
by the addition of a small portion of fresh hypo.
sione, F. Maxwell Ltte.
P. S. — I may add that I have only lately tried
the addition of the iodide of potassium to my
• setting liquid, and so must qualify my recom-
mendation of it by saying so.
Fiorian, Torquay.
Stereoscopic Ans^les. — 1 am obliged to Mbssbs.
Shadbolt and Wilkinson for the information
given in reply to my Queries (Vol. vii., p. 505.).
My mode of operation is precisely that of Mb.
Wilkinson : " I obtain all the information I can
from every source; then try, and judge for myself."
Hence the present letter.
I regret to be obliged to differ from Mb. Shad-
bolt, but there is a point in his communication
which appears to me to arise from a misconceptioa
of the stereoscopic problem. He sajs (p. 557.),
" for distant views there is in nature scarcely any
stereoscopic effect." Now, surely visual distance
is merely visual stereosity ; for, to see an object
solid is merely to see its parts in relief^ some of
them appearing to project or recede from the
others. It is the difficulty of producing this effect
in landscapes, by the ordinary camera process, that
renders views taken by such means so deficient in
air, or, as the artists term it, aerial perspective,
most distant objects seeming almost as near as
those in the foreground. This indeed is the nuun
defect of all photographs: they are true repre-
sentations of nature to one eye — cyclopean pic-
tures, as it were — appearing perfectly stereoscopic
with one eye closed, but seeming absolutely flat-
tened when viewed by the two eyes. I remem-
ber being shown a huge photograph of the city of
Berlin, taken from an eminence; and a more
violent caricature of nature I never set eyes upon.
It was almost Chinese in its perspective : the
house-tops appeared to have been mangled. It
was a wonderful work of art, photographically con-
sidered ; but artistically it was positively hideous.
But the same defect exists in aU monopbotogra*
phic representations, though in a less degree, and
consequently less apparent than in views to which
a sense of distance is essential. In portraits, the
features appear slightly flattened ; and until photo*
graphers are able to overcome this, the chief of all
obstacles to perfection, it is idle to talk of the art
giving a correct rendering of nature. This is what
is wanted, more than colour, diactinic lenses, mul-
tiplication of impressions, or anything else. And
when it is remembered that the law of an ordinary
convex lens is, the farther the object from the lens
the nearer the focus, and, vice versa, the nearer
the object the farther the focus, it becomes evident
that by such an instrument distant objects must
be made to appear near, and near objects distant,
and nature consequently mangled.
The stereoscope gives us the only demonstrably
correct representation of nature ; and when that
instrument is rendered more simple, and the
peep-show character of the apparatus discon-
nected from it, the art of photography will tran-
scend the productions of the painter — but not
till then.
I am anxious to obtain all the information I
can from such of your photographic readers as are
practically acquainted with the stereoscopic portion
of the art relative to the angles under which they
And it best to take their pictures for given dis-
tances.
Mr. Fenton, the secretary of the Photographic
Society, takes his stereoscopic pictures, when the
objects are 50 feet and upwards from the camera,
at I in 25. This is, as Mb. SnAnnoLT states, Pro-
fessor Wheatstone*s rule for distances.
JniT 2. 1833.] NOTES AND QUEKIES. 17
Mk. WtLKiHBOH, on the other hand, BBsei^ that asnearlyas posuble the centre of the ground glaw
3 feet Id SOO yards is sufficient separation for the plate.
cameras : this is on]; 1 in 300, — a vait difference Nor is it esaen-^ that perfect horizontalitj or
truly. parallelism of the cameraB should be mainlauied
" For TiewB across the Thames," sajs the editor in copjing trees. For buildings, however, it is
of the PAafcignyfAic Jburnni, "Ihe cameras should absolutely necessary that the cameras be kept
be placed 12 ftet apart, and wilh this separation straight.
the effect is declared to be astonishing." I am sorry thus to trespass on your apace, but
Mb. WiLKinsoK, however, asserts that from 4 being anxious, as Mb. Wiulisson says, lo collect
to 6 feet in a mile will do well enovgh 1 information from every source, and your periodical
Fariher, Mr. Latimer Clark (the inventor of an being a happy medium for conveying and re-
ingenious stereoscopic camera) slates that with ceiving instruction, I am glad to avail myself of
regard to the distance between the two positions such a channel. *. (2)
of the cameras, he knowfl no ^ reason why the p.S. — Mr. Claudet has, I perceive, been
natural distance oflheeyes. VIZ. 2i inches, should „„jed the prize given by the Society of Arts
be much exceeded. '_' A litUe extra relief .s ob- f^^ ^^^ ^est eSsay oS the stereoscope. Can yoo,
tamed, he ad da, "without visible distortion, by ^^ any of your readers, inform me whether this is
mcreasing the separation to about 4 or 5 inches j uteiy to be published, and when and at what
but if this distance be greatly exceeded, especially ^^^ f
for near objects (1 give the gentleman's own
■words), they become Mpparently diminished in Query respecting Mr. PoUock'i Procen. — In
size, and have the appearance of models and dolls Mb. Pollock's directions for obtuning poaitivea,
rather than natural objects," which appeared in "N. & Q." (Vol. vii,, p. S81,),
The reason for making the separatJon between iodide of silver is to be dissolved in a saturated so-
the cameras greater than that between the two lution uf hypo. Can you give me the quantity of
eyes, is exceedingly simple. The sterec^raph is iodide of silver to be dissolved, and the quantity
to be looked at much nearer than Ihe object itaelf, of the saturated solution of hypo, in which it is to
and consequently ia to be seen under a much be dissolved ? N. T. B.
larger angle than it is viewed by the two eyes in
nature. Hence the two pictures should be taken Gallo-mtrate of Silver. — Can you inform me
at the angle under whieb they arc to be observed what the true nature of the decomposition is
in the stereoscope. Suppose the object to be 50 which takea place after a short time in the gallo-
feet distant, then of course it is seen by the two nitrate solution of silver ? and if there be any
eyes under an angle of 2', inches in 50 feet, or 1 ready means of rendering the silver it contains
in 240. But it is intended that the stereograph again available for photographic use?
should be seen by the two eyes when but a few Sib W. Newton, in the description of his calo-
inchea removed from them, or generally under an type process, says : " Bring out with the saturated
angle of 2^ in 12 inches, or nearly 1 in 5. Hence solution of gallic acid, and when the subject
it is self-evident that the stereoscopic angle should begins to appear, add the acelo-nitrate of silver
be considerably larger than that formed by the solution." Which way of doing this is the best, —
cptic axes of lie two eyes when directed to the mising the two solutions togeLher and applying
object itself. them to the paper ; _o ' "■ *•-"
t there is great diversity of opinion as to the wetted wilt the gallic
extent of the angles requisite for producing the T- L.
precise stereoscopic or distantial effect of nature.
For myself I prefer Professor Wheatatone's rule, ^ta\\ti tn -fflinnr rtuertetf
1 in 25 for objects beyond 50 feet distant. For »rptuS In JHinOr ffluerU*.
portraits 1 find the best angle 1 in 10 when the Verney Note decypJtered (Vol. vii., p. 568.). —
Sllter is 10 feet off, and for busts about 1 in 5 I am extremely obliged to Mb. Thompson Coopsb
when placed about 5 or 6 feet from the cameras, for his decyphered rendering of Sir Ralph Ver-
But I should be happy to receive information from ney's note of a speech or proceeding in parliament.
any of your readers concerning this important The note itself is not now in my possession, but I
branch of the phutograpbic art. For months past have requested the owner to be good enough to
I have been engaged In a series of experiments in re-collate it with the original, and if any mistakes
connexion with the subject, and wish for larger should appear in the copy, or the printing (which
experience than it is possible for any single operator is very likely), I will give you notice of the fact,
to acquire for himself. that Uie doubtful words in Mb. Coopbb'b version
Mr. Fenton, I may observe, does not keep the maT,'if possible, be set right.
cameras parallel in taking landacapea, but in- Students in the art of decyphering may be
dines them so that the same object may occupy pleased to have the key to the cy^ier recorded in
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 192.
roar pve9. I therefore give it yon as diieovered
3y^ Mb. CooPBB, and bee. Id the strongest naj, to
reiterate mv thftnka to Uiat gentleman.
0/^ aiu. (..ooPBB, ana oee, m toe
reiterate mj thanks to Aat gentl<
2. 3, 4, S.e, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 1?
f, r, k, t, b, '
20, 22, 27, 21
. P. d.
cases thej retun the Greek form of the adjective,
as iapkytiqat, EnbatantiTe and adjective, while we
generally have pairs of adjectives, as pkiloiophie,
15 16 17 18 philosophical; exialie, exlatical; &c. Some m»y
e i o u think this an advaati^ ; I do not.
Taoe. Keighti^t.
. The cyphers (if any) for j, q, y, 2 have not
been discovered, and the numbers 1, 19,21,23,
24, 25, 26 remain unappropriated. Josh Bbuce.
Etnbiema by John Statyan (Vol. vii., p. 470.), —
This work, wbiuh Ma. Cobser has not met with,
is in the folio edition of his works, forming pp. £49.
to 868. of vol, ii. (1768). The plates are small
woodcuts of Tery iudifferent execution. E. D.
Mr. Cobb's Diary (Vol. vii,, p. 477.). —This
volume was printed solely for private distribution
by the family, who also presented their relatives
and friends (amongst whom the writer was
reckoned) with another volume compiled on the
decease of Francis Cobb, Esq., the husband of
Mrs. Cobb, and entitled, Memoir of the late
Francis Cobb, E»q., of Margate, compiled from
his Journals and Letters : Maidstone, printed by
J. V. Hall and Son, Journal Offite, 1833. Bolh
of these are at the service for perusal of your in-
quiring correspondent, John Maetin. E. D.
"Sal cito si sat bene" (Vol. vii., p. 594.). — I
have not Twiss at hand j but I think F. W. J. is
mistaken in calling it a "favonrire maxim" of
Lord Eldon. I remember to have heard Lord
Eldon tell the story, which was, that the New-
castie Fly, in which he came up to town, in I forget
how many days, had on its panel the motto, "Sat
cito si sat bene;" he applied it jocularly in defence
of his own habits in Chancery. C.
Mylhe versus Myth (Vol. vii., pp. 326, 373.). —
It gives me much pleasure to have afforded Mb.
Thieiold an opportiinity for displaying so much
learning and sagacity ; but I hope he does not
imagine that he has confuted me. As T only spoke
of words which, like jiSfloj, had a single consonant
between two vowels, such words as piinih, laby^
riath, &c. have nothing to do with the' question.
If nythe, differing from the other examples which
are to be found, happens to have the for its ter-
mination, and thus resembles words of Anglo-
Saxon origin, I cannot help it, but it was formed
secundum erlem. As to Mb. TBiaioij>*s myth, un-
less to written, and printed, it will always be pro-
nounced mplh, like the French mythe.
As to the hybrid adjectives, I only wished to
avoid increasing the number ofthem. The French,
I believe, have only one, musical; for though, like
ourselves, they have made sabstantivea of the
Greek nivauiii (ac. t*x*ii). ^wiioi, &c^ in all other
The Gilbert Family (Vol. vii., p. 239,).— If youi
correspondent seeking genealogical information in
reference to my ancestors, calls on me, I will show
him a presentation copy of A Oenealoeicul Me-
moir of the Qiibert Family in Old and New Eng-
land, by J. W. Thornton, LL.B., Boston, U. S^
1850, 8vo. pp. 24, only fifty printed.
Jahbs Gilbebt.
Alexander Clark (Vol. vii., p.580.). — I should
feel obliged if J. 0. could find leisure to commu-
nicate to "N. & Q." some particulars relative to
Clarlc. He is supposed to have been the author
of a curions poem : The Institution and Progress
of the Buttery College of Slains, in the Parish of
Cruden, Aberdeinshire ; ivilh a Catalogue of the
Boohs aad MSS. in the Library of that Utti-
versitr/: Aberdeen, 1700. Mr. Peter Buchan thus
mentions him in his Gleanings of Scarce Old
Ballads:
" Clark, n drunken dominie at Slaiiia, author of a
poetical dialogue between the garricneis nnd Iiilors on
the oiigia of iheir craFis, and a most curious Latin and
English poem called the ■ Buttery College oF Slains,'
which resembled much in langu.ige and style Drum,
mond of Ilawthornden's ■Polemo Middino.'"
This poem is-printed in Watson's Collection of
Sluttish Poents, Edin. 1711 ; and also noticed in
the Edinburgh Topographical and Antiquarian
Magazine, 1848, last page. I am anxious to ascer-
tain if the emblem writer, and the burlesque poet,
be one and the same person. The dates, I con-
fess, are somewhat against this conclusion ; but
there rnay have been a previous edition of the
Emblematical Representation (1779). The Uni-
versity Clark is supposed to have been an Aber-
deenshire man. Possibly J. O. may be able to
throw some light on the subject. Pebthensis.
Christ's Cross (Vol. iii., pp. 330. 465.). — In
Morley's Introduction to Practical Music, originally
printed in 1597, and which I quote from a repriijt
by William Randall, in 4to., in 1771, eighteen
mortal pages (42 — 59), which, in my musical
ignorance, I humbly confess lo be wholly out of
my line, are occupied with the " Cantus," " Tenor,"
and " Bassus," to the following words :
" Christes Crosse be my speed in all vertue to pro-
ceede. A, b, c, d, e. f, g. h. i. k. I, m, n. o, p, q. r, b. &
I, double w, I, T, ivitli y, eiod, & per ae, can per se,
tittle tittle «t Amen, When you haue done begin
again, begia agun.- T P M
July 2. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEDSS.
19
ne ReheUwAs Prayer (VoL vii., p. 286.). —
J. A. may find the poem, of which he quotes the
opening lines, in the ChurckmcuCs Monthly Penny
Magazine^ October, 1851, with the signature
L. E. P. The magazine is published bj Wertheim
& Macintosh, 24. Paternoster Row. M. E.
" To the Lords of Convention " (Vol. vii., p. 596.)-
— L. Evans will find the whole of the ballad of
"Bonnie Dundee," the first line of which he
quotes, in Sir Walter Scott's Doom of Devorgoil,
where it is introduced as a song. Singularly
enough, his best ballad is thus found in his worst
play. FicuLNUs.
Wooden Tombs and Effigies (Vol. vii., pp. 528.
607.). — In a chapel adjoining the church of He-
veningham in Suffolk, are (or rather were in
1832) the remains of a good altar tomb, with re-
cumbent effigies carved in chesnut, of a knight and
his lady : it appeared to be, from the armour and
architecture, of the early part of the fifteenth
century ; and from the arms. Quarterly or and gules
within a harder engrailed sable, charged with es-
callops argent, no doubt belonged to the ancient
family of Heveningham of that place; probably
Sir John Heveningham, knight of the shire for the
county of Suffolk m the 1st of Henry IV.
When I visited this tomb in 1832, it was in a
most dilapidated condition : the slab on which the
ef^gy of the knight once rested was broken in ;
within the head of the lady, which was separated
from the body, a thrush bad built its nest : not-
withstanding, however, the neglecji and damp to
which the chapel was exposed, these chesnut
effigies remained wonderfully sound and perfect.
Spes.
The monument to Sir Walter Traylli and his
lady, in Woodford Church in Northamptonshire,
is of wood.
There is a wooden effigy in Gayton Church,
Northamptonshire, of a knight templar, recum-
bent, in a cross-legged position, his feet resting
on an animal : over the armour is a surcoat ; the
helmet is close fitted to the head, his right hand
is on the hilt of his sword, a shield is on the left
arm.
There is also a fine wooden effigy of Sir Hugh
Bardolph in Burnham Church in Norfolk. ' J. B.
In Fersfield Church, in Norfolk, there is a
wooden figure to the memory of Sir Robert Du
Bois, Kt., ob. 1311. See Bloomfield*s Norfolk,
vol. i. p. 68. J. B.
Lord Clarendon and the Tubwoman (Vol. vii.,
pp. 133. 211. 634.). — Upon reference to the story
of the " tubwoman" in p. 133., it will be seen that
Idx. Hyde is distinctly stated to have himself mar-
ried the brewer's widow, and to have married her
for her money. It k farther said that Ann Hyde,
the mother of Queen Mary and Queen Ann, was
the only issue of this marriage; whereas Ann
Hyde had four brothers and a sister. No alliision
is made in this account to Sir Thomas Ailesbury.
Your correspondent Mb. Warden says, that "tfe
story has usually been told of the wife of Sir
Thomas Ailesbury,** and that it may be true of
her. Will he have the kindness to furnish a re-
ference to the version of the story in which Sir
Thomas Ailesbury is said to have married the tub-
woman P L.
House-marks (Vol. vii., p. 594.). — I do not
know whether a. recollects the frequent occur-
rence of marks upon sheep in this country. Al-
though I have often seen them, I cannot just now
describe one accurately. Some sheep passed my
house yesterday which were marked with a cross
within a circle.
Riding with a friend, a miller, in Essex, about
thirteen years ago, he jumped out of the gig and
over a gate, to seize a sack which was lying in a
field. Seeing no initials upon it, I asked how he
knew that it was his; when he pointed out to me
a fish marked upon it, which he told me had been
his own and his father's mark for many years.
He also said that most of the millers in the neigh-
bourhood had a peculiar mark (not their names or
initials), each a different one for his own sacks.
A. J. N.
Birmingham.
" Amentium haud amantium^^ (Vol. vii., p. 595.).
— Your correspondent's Query sent me at once to
a queer old Terence in English, together with the
text, " opera ac industrid R. B,, in Axholmensi in-
siddyLincolnsheriiEpwortheatis. [London, Printed
by John Legatt, and are to be sold by Andrew
Crooke, at the sign of the Green-Dragon, in Paul's
Church Yard. 1641.] 6th Edition."
Here, as I expected, I found an alliterative
translation of the phrase in question : " For they
are fare as they were lunaticke, and not love-sicke, '
The translation, I may add, is in prose.
OXONIENSIS.
Waltbamstow.
The Megatherium in the British Museum
(Vol. vii., p. 590.). — It is much to be regretted
that A Foreign Surgeon should not have
examined the contents of the room which contains
the cast of the skeleton of this animal with a little
more attention, before he penned the above article.
Had he done so, he would have found many of the
original bones, from casts of which the restored
skeleton has been constructed, in Wall Cases 9
and 10, and would not have fallen into the error
of supposing that it is a facsimile of the original
skeleton at Madrid. That specimen was exhumed
near Buenos Ayres in 1789; whilst our restoration
20
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 192.
has been made from bones of another individual,
many of which are, as I have stated, to be found
in the British Museum itself, and others in that of
the Royal College of Surgeons. I am not about
to defend the propriety of putting the trunk of a
palm-tree into the claws of the Megatherium,
though I do not suppose that the restorer ever
expected, when he did so, that any one would
entertain the idea that this gigantic beast was in
the habit of climbing trees ; but I would fain ask
your correspondent on what grounds he makes the
dogmatic assertion that " Palms there were none,
at that period of telluric formation." I will
simply remind him of the vast numbers of fossil
fruits, and other remains of palms, in the Londofi
clay of the Isle of Sheppey.
W . J. Bebnhabd Smith.
Temple.
Pictorial Proverbs (Vol. v., p. 559.). — Perhaps
the book here mentioned is one of the old Ger-
man Narrenhuchs, or Book of Fools^ which were
generally illustrated with pictures, of which I have
a curious set in my possession.
Can any of your correspondents give some
account of the nature and merits of these books P
Are any of them worth translating at the present
day ? The one from which my pictures were taken
Las the title Mala GaUina^ malum Ovum, and was
published at Vienna and Nuremburg. It seems
to have been a satire on the female sex ; but the
text, I am sorry to say, is not in my possession.
H. T. RlLET.
' "HiirraA," and otherWar-cries (Vol.vii., p. 596.).
— The following passage (which I find in my notes
with the reference Menagiana^ vol. ii. p. 328.) may
partially assist your correspondent Cape :
**Le cri des anciens Comtes d'Anjou 6toit RcHlie,
£n voici Torigine. £ude II., Comte de Blois, marchant
aveo une armee considerable centre Fouike Nerra,
Comte d'Anjou, ces deux princes se rencontr^rent k
Fontlevoi sur le Cher, oit ils se livrerent bataille le
6 Juillet, 1016. Fouike eut d'abord quelque desa van-
tage ; mais Herbert, Comte du Maine (dit Eoeillechien\
6tant venu a son secours, il rallia ses troupes, and d^fit
absolument, &c. Depuis ce temps-]{l le cri des anciens
Comtes d'Anjou etoit Rallie. £t a ce propos je vous
rapporterai ce qu*en dit Maitre Vace, surnomm4 le
Qerc de Caerif dans son Roman de Normandie :
' Fran9ois crie Montjoye, et Normans Dtx-aye :
Flamands crie Arast et Angevin Rallie :
£t li ouens Thiebaut Chartre et Pdssavant crie.' "
^ This last cry is not unlike the Irish *^ Faugh-
a-Ballagh" in signification. J. H. Lebeschb.
Manchester.
The following extracts from Sir Francis Pal-
grave's History of Normandy and England, vol. i.
p. 696., explain the origin of the word ** Hurrah,"
respecting which one of your correspondents in-
quires :
" It was a * wise custom* in Normandy, established
by Rollo's decree, that whoever sustained, or feared to
sustain, any damage of goods or chattels, life or limb,
was entitled to raise the country by the cry of haro, or
haroHt upon which cry all the lieges were bound to
join in pursuit of the offender, — Haron! Ha Raoulf
justice invoked in Duke Rollo's name. Whoever failed
to aid, made fine to the sovereign; whilst a heavier
mulct was consistently inflicted upon the mocker who
raised the clameur de haro without due and sufficient
cause, a disturber of the commonwealth's tranquillity.
'* The clameur de haro is the English system of * hue
and cry.' The old English exclamation Harrow I our
national vernacular Hurrah! being only a variation
thereof, is identical with the supposed invocation of
the Norman chieftain ; and the usage, suggested by
common sense, prevailed under various modifications
throughout the greater part of the Pays Coutumier of
France."
A. M. S.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
Among the books which we have for some time in-
tended to bring under the notice of our readers is a
new and cheaper edition of The Coin Collector's Manual,
or Guide, to the Numismatic Student in the Formation
of a Cabinet of Coins : comprising an Historical and
Criticcd Account of the Origin and Progress of Coinage,
from the Earliest Period to the Fall of the Roman Em-
pire i with some Account of the Coinages of Modem
Europe, more especially of Great Britain, by H. Noel
Humphreys : and we have been the more anxious to
do this, because, except among professed collectors,
greater ignorance probably exists on the subject of coins,
their date, value, &c., than upon any other subject with
which educated people are supposed to possess some
acquaintance. Yet there are few numismatic ques-
tions likely to occur which ordinary readers would not
be enabled to solve by a reference to these two little
volumes, enriched as it is with numerous illustrations;
especially if they would place beside them Akerman's
most useful Numismatic Manual,
We are indebted to Mr, Murray for two volumes
which will be among the pleasant additions to the
cheap books of the month, namely, the new volume,
being the fourth of the reprint, of Lord Mahon's His-
tory of England to the Peace of Versailles, which com-
prises the interval between the Peace of Aix-la-Chapelle
and that of Hubertsburg; and in the Railway Reading,
for half-a-crown I the fourth edition of Lockhart's
spirited translations of Ancient Spanish Ballads, His-
torical and Romantic, Thanks, Mr. Murray, thanks !
That Mr. De la Motte, who is so well known as an
accomplished draughtsman, should turn his attention
to photography, is no slight testimony to the value of
the art That he has become a roaster in it, may be
seen by one glance at his own works on the walls of his
Fhotographio Gallery. The beginner may therefore
receive with confidence the results of that gentleman's
experience; and Th« Practice of Photography, a Manual
for Students and Amateurs, just published by him, will
JtJLT 2. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
21
be found a most useful and instructive companion to
every one who is now contemplating an excursion,
armed with a camera, for the purpose of securing for
the gratification of his friends truthful records of bis
wanderings. Mr. De la Motte wisely confines his in-
struction to the paper and glass processes ; his details
on these are clear and minute, and the book is well
worth the money for those pages of it alone which are
devoted to the ** Chemicals used in Photography."
Books Received. — On the Archaic Mode of express'
ing Numbers in English^ Saxon, Friesic, ^c, by £.
Thomson, Esq. ; a learned and ingenious tract, written
originally fur insertion in ** N. & Q.," but which fact
ought not to prevent our speaking of it in the terms
which it deserves. — A Few Words in Reply to the Ani-
madversions of the Rev, Mr, Dyce on Mr, Hunters " DiS'
quisition on the Tempest^'* 1839, and his " New Illns-
trations of the Life, Studies^ and Writings of Shakspeare,^
1845, §-c. A short but interesting contribution to
Shakspearian criticism, by one who has already done
good service in the same cause. If we cannot agree
with Mr. Hunter in all that he seeks to establish, we
can admire his knowledge of Elizabethan literature,
and appreciate the spirit in which he writes. — The
Antiquary, This is the first number of a small work
consisting of reprints of proclamations, curious adver-
tisements from early newspapers, and such odd matters
as paint more forcibly than the gravest historian, the
colours of the times.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTED TO PURCHASE.
The Complaynts of Scotland. 8vo. Edited by Leyden. 1804.
Suakspeare's Plays. Vol. V. of Johnson and Steevens's edition,
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The Eye : its primary Idea - - . . 25
Gossiping History -De Quincey's Account of Hatfield 26
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VoL.VnL— No. 193.
THE EYE : ITS PBIMABT IDEA.
I do not; remember to have remarked that any
writer notices how uniformly, in almost all lan-
guages, the same primary idea has been attached
to the eye. This universal consent is the more
remarkable, inasmuch as the connexion in ques-
tion, though of course most appropriate and sig-
nificant in itself, hardly seems to indicate the most
prominent characteristic, or what we should deem
to be par excellence the obvious qualities of the
eye ; in a word, we should scarcely expect a term
derived from a physical attribute or property.
The eye is suggestive of life, of divinity, of in-
tellect, piercing acuteness (acies) ; and again, of
truth, of joy, of love: but these seem to have been
disregarded, as being mere indistinctive accidents,
and the primary idea which, by the common con-
sent of almost all nations, has been thought most
properly to symbolise this organ is a spring— /ow5,
Thus, from VV, manare, scatere, a word not in
use, according to Fuerst, we have the Hebrew T^J?^
fons aquarum et lacrimarum, h. e. oculus. This
word however, in its simple form, seems to have
almost lost its primary signification, being used
most generally m its secondary — oculus, (Old
Testament Hebrew version, passim.) In the sense
of fonsj its derivative V]i^ is usually substituted.
Precisely the same connexion of ideas is to be
found in the Syriac, the Ethiopic, and the Arabic.
Again, in the Greek we find the rarely-used
word 6ir^, a fountain, or more properly the eye^
whence it wells out, — the same form as oir^, oculus ;
^, 6rlfi5y i^ofiai. Thus, in St. James his Epistle,
cap. iii. 11. : /lw{ti ^ mj*)^ Ik t^s ahrris Iv^s $p6€i rh
yKvicb KoA rh viKpSv,
In the Welsh, likewise, a parallel case occurs :
Llygad, an eye, signifies also the spring from
which water flows, as in the same passage of St.
James : a ydyw ffynnon dr vn Uygad (from one
spring or eye) yn rhoi dwfr melus a chwerw f
On arriving at the Teutonic or old German
tongue, we find the same connexion still existing :
Avg, augOf — oculus; whence ougen ostendere-^
Gx>this augo ; and awe, auge, ave, campres ad am'
NOTES AKD QUERIES.
[Ka 193.
nem. (Tld. SchUteri, Thes^ toI. Si. ad boc.) Am
here we cannot help noticing the similarity betweei
these words and the Hebrew ni<^ which (as wel.
Ba the Coptic iari) means primarilj a river oi
fltream ftoia a spring ; but, according to FrofeMoi
Lee, is allied to -nn, ligh^ the enlighteament o:
the mind, the opening of the ejes ; and be adds
" the application of the term to water, as runniitg.
(roiulticul, &a., is eosj." Here, then, is a sinulai
COnnezioa of ideas with a change in the metaphor
In the dialects which descended from the Teu-
tonic in the Saxon branch, the connexion between
these two distinct objects is also singularly pre-
served. It is to be found in the Low German,
the Fricsio, and the AnglO'SazoD. In the lattei
ve have ea, eah, eagor, a welling.^flowing stream :
and eak, agh, eage, an eje, whiSi might be abun-
dantly iilustrated.
We could hardlj fail to £nd in Shakspeare some
allusion to these connected images in the old
tongae; no speck of beautj could exist and es-
cape his ken. Thus :
* la that respect, too, like a loving child.
Shed yet Kinie small drop* from th; tender ipiing.
Because kind Nature doth lequire it so."
2^ Jad., Act V. Se. 3.
*■ Bsdc, fooliab lems, back to your native spring;
YoDT tributury drops belong to woe.
Which you, mtBtaking, offer up for Joy."
Son. OHd Jul., Act IIL Sc 2.
Many of the phrases of the ancient tongues, in
which the eje bears a part, have been handed
down to us, and are still preserved in our own.
My space, however, forbids me to ^o more than
allude to them; but there is one very forcible
expression in the Hebrew T^3 fJV, literally, eye in
eye, which we render much less forcibly^face to
fice. The Welsh have preserved it exactly in
thehr Uygad yn Uygad. Indeed, this is not the
only instance ia which they are proud of having
handed down the Hebrew idiom in all its purity.
Shakspeare twice uses the old phrase:
" Since then my office bath so fai prevailed.
That face to face, and royal eye to eye.
Ton have congreeted." _ /T™. V., Act V. Sc. S.
And in Tro. and Crea^ Act IIL Sc 3 ; but it ap-
pears now to be obsolete.
Before concluding, I cancot help noticing, in
connexion with this subject, the Old English term
*> the apple of the eye." I am unable to trace it
beyond lie Anglo-Saxon. The Teutonic sehandes
cugen, papilla oculi, is totally distinct ; teha being
merely medium mincfiu oetdi, whence sehan, eidere.
In the Semitic languages, as well as in the Greek
and Latin, the origin of the term is the same, and
^Tes no clue to the meaning of the Saxon term.
Thus, in the Hebrew riE"N, dun. of E^'K, komwt-
cv&u, the small image of a person seen in the eye.
In Arabic it is the man or daughter of &e eye. In
Greek we have n^pih xnp^'oy, copiurtSav; and in
Latin, pupa, pupula, pvpilia.
Has any li^hi been thrown on the Anglo-'SaxoB
tenu ? Can it be that irU, not the pupi^ is taken
to represent an apple f The pupl itself irould
then be the eye of the apple of the eye.
H. C.K.
Rectory, Hereford.
! QUinCEI S ACCOtntT OF
In proof of the severity with which the laws
against forgery were enforced, I have been re-
ferred to the case of Hatfield, banged in 1803 for
forging franks. It is given very fully in Mr. De
Quincey's " Literary Recollections of Coleridge"
in the first volume of the Boston edition of his
Works.
The story has some romance in it, and excited
great interest fifty years ago. Hatfield had lived
by swindling J and, though be underwent an im-
prisonment for debt, had, upon the whole, a long
career of success. The last scene of his depreda-
tions was the Lakes, where he married a barmaid,
who was called " The Beauty of Buttermere."
Shoi-tiy after the marriage he was arrested, tried,
and execnted. Mr. De Quincey anerwards lived
in the neighbourhood, dined at the public-house
kept by Mary's father, and was waited upon by
her. He had the fullest opportunities of getting
correct information : and his version of the story
is so trutblike, that I should have accepted it
without hesitation but for the hanging for forging
a frank. As that offence never was capital, and
was made a felony punishable with transportation
for seven years by 42 Geo. HI. c. 63., I was im-
pelled to compare the statement founded on gossip
with more formal accounts ; and I send the result
in illustration of the small reliance which is to be
placed on tradition in such matters. The arrival
of Hatfield in a carriage is graphically described.
He called himself the Hon. A ugustus Hope, brother
of the Earl of Hopetoun. Some doubts were felt
at first, but —
" To remove suspicion, be not only received letlen
continually franked letters by thai name. Now, that
bcitu/ a capita! offcTice, being not only a forgery, but (as
a forgery on the Posl-oflice) sure lo be prosecuted,
nobody presumed to question his prelensiooB any longer;
and henceforward he went lo all places with the con-
sideration due loan carl's brDlher." — P. 196.
The marriage with Mary Robinson, and the
way in which they passed the honeymoon, are
described :
Jin.T 9. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEBIEa
27
<iffrighUd numntaineerSf the bubble burst ; officers of
Justice appeared, the stranger wtu easily intercepted
Jrom flight, and, upon a capital charge, he was home
away to Carlisle, At the ensuing assizes he was tried
Jbr forgery on the proseeution of the Posi-office, found
guilty, left for execution, and executed accordingly."^
P, 199.
^ One common scaffold confounds the most flinty
bearts and the tenderest. However, it was in some
measure the heartless part of Hatfield's conduct which
^irew upon him his ruin : for the Cumberland jury, as I
bave been told, declared their unwillingness to hang him
Jbr having forged a frank ; and both they, and those who
refused to aid his escape when first apprehended, were
leeoneiled to this harshness entirely by what they heard
<lf his conduct to theur injured young feUow-country^
awMum.**— P. 201.
Hatfield was not " easily intercepted from flight."
Sir Frederick Vane granted a warrant to appre-
bend him on the charge of forging franks. Hatfield
ordered dinner at the Queen's Head, Keswick, to
be ready at three ; took a boat, and did not return.
This was on October 6 : he was married to Mary
•on the 2nd. In November he was apprehended
near Brecknock, in Wales : so those who refused
to aid his escape, if such there were, were not
•* reconciled to the hardship by what they heard
of his conduct to their young fellow -country-
woman." The "startling of the thunderclap"
was preceded by an ordmary proclamation, de-
«cribmg the offender, and offering a reward of
-601, for his apprehension. He was not " hurried
«way to Carlisle," but deliberately taken to Lon-
don on December 12 ; examined at Bow Street,
remanded three times, and finally committed;
And sent to Carlisle, where he was tried on
August 15, 1803.
Three indictments were preferred against him :
tbe first for forging a bill of exchange for 20^.,
drawn by Alexander Augustfis Hope on John
Crump, payable to George Wood ; the second for
a similar bill for 30Z. ; and the third for counter-
feiting Colonel Hope*s handwriting to defraud
the Post- office.
The Cumberland jury did not " declare their
unwillingness to hang him for forging a frank,"
that not being a capital offence. I infer, also,
that it was one for which he was not tried. He
was convicted on the first indictment ; the court
rose immediately after the jury had given their
Terdict ; and the prisoner was called up for judg-
ment at eight the next morning. Trying a man
under sentence of death for a transportable felony,
is contrary to all practice. Hatfield was executed
«t Carlisle on September 3, 1803.
Mary*s misfortunes induced the sympathising
public to convert her into a minor heroine. She
seems to have been a common-place person, with
^emall claims to the title of "The Beauty of But-
*tennere.** A cotemporary account says, " she is
«»
rather gap-toothed and somewhat pock-markedJ
And Mr. De Quincey, after noticing her good
figure, says, " the expression of her countenance
was often disagreeable."
« A lady, not very scrupulous in her embellishment
of fiicts, used to tell an anecdote of her which I hope
was exaggerated. Some friend of hers, as she affirmed,
in company with a large party, visited Buttermere a
day or two after that on which Hatfield suffered ; and
she protested that Mary threw on the table, with an
emphatic gesture, the Carlisle paper containing an
elaborate account of the execution." — - P. 204.
Considering the treatment she had received,
it is not unlikely that her love, if she ever had
any for a fat man of forty-five, was turned inta
hatred ; and it was not to be expected that her
taste would keep down the manifestation of such
feeling. When Hatfield was examined at Bow
Street, Sir Richard Ford, the chief magistrate,
ordered the clerk to read aloud a letter which he
received from her. It was :
«< Sir, — The man whom I had the misfortune to
marry, and who has ruined me and my aged and
unliappy parents, always told me that he was the Hon.
Colonel Hope, the next brother to the Earl of Hope-
toun.
" Your grateful and unfortunate servant,
** Mart Robinson."
I do not blame Mr. De Quincey, having no
doubt that he believed what he was told ; but I
have put together these facts and discrepancies, to
show how careful we should be in accepting tra-
ditions, when a man of very high ability, with the
best opportunities of getting at the truth, was so
egregiously misled.
My authorities are. The Annual Register^ 1803,
pp. 421. and 428.; The GentlemxnCs Magazine^
1803, pp.779. 876. and 983.; Kirby's Wonderful
Magazine, vol. i. pp. 309. and 336. The Newgate
Calendar gives a similar account ; but not having
it at hand, I cannot vouch it. H. B. C.
U. U. Club.
NOTES UPON THE NAMES OF SOME OF THE EABLT
INHABITANTS OF HELLAS.
I. I have never seen it yet noticed, that the
names Pyrrha, JEolus, Xuthus, Ion, are all names
of colours. Is there anything in this, or is it for-
tuitous ?
II. In accordance with the above, I think we
may refer most of the names of the early inhabit-
ants of Greece to words denoting light or colour^
or the like.
(1.) Pelas-gi, The first part of this word is, hj
Mr. Donaldson, connected with /*€A.-as, which i8
also, probably, the root of Mol-ossi,
(2.) Hellenes, connected with HeUi, SeUi, <r^Aaf,
c0Ai|, 9fi<ws. Thb derivation is made more probable
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No, 19».
bj the fact, tliftt the neighbouring Felosgic tribes
lui*e a similar meaning ; t.g^
Ferrhabi, alike to JVrrAo and np; MOiicei,
idVai; Tymphiei, tu^; Hestiiri, tarla. Add to tbis,
that the name PMhiotis seems indubitnbly to de-
rire its name from Phlhah, the Egyptian Hephas-
tUM, and to be a translation of tbe word Heluu.
N.B The existence of an Egyptian colon;r in
that part is attested by the existence of a Phthiotio
Theba.
(3.) On tbe other hand, the word Aehtetu seems
to be connected with tExat, ix"^!"") ^^^ ix'^"' in the
sense of gloom (ol oipirior a^Dt). So tbe Homeric
Cinaaeriana are derived from '"i*")?? (Job), de-
noUng darkne^a.
(4.) Lastly, I submit with great diffidence the
following examination of the words Dorut and
the ^dian Minj/ir, which I shall attempt to de-
rive from words denoting ran and moon respec-
Tbe word Bonis I assume to be connected with
ihe first part of the names Dry-opes and Dol-opes.
The metathesis in the first case eeems sanctioned
by the analog; of the Sanscrit drt and Greek iiipai,
ftod tbe mutation of I and r in the second is too
common in Greek and Latin to admit of any
donbt, e.^. ip-ya^.4os and iAyoX/rot ; Sol and Sor*
acte. With this premised, I think we may be
jnstified in connecting the followicg word with
one another.
Dores, Drymes with 2cfpiai (of liis and A'oi)
e/poj, the Scythian sun-god oh-i-nofiui, the Egyp-
tian O-siris, and perhaps tbe Hebrew 1^1 and
'Greek Jijpi; (the course of the sun being the
emblem of eternity),— Doi-opes with Sol, •&.)),
SeUi, &c.
On the other hand, the neighbouring Mim/te
Beem connected with /wiBai, /iin/ySOf tniniM, — all
with tbe sense of decreaaijig or waning ; hence re-
ferable, both in sense and (I fancy) m derivation,
to Greek M", and Latin men-sit, 3. H. J.
over again the same note aa above, a little diversi-
fied, and placed parallel to Theobald's edition in
this way :
." It lies as sightly on the back of him
As great AlcideV (Aoici upon an au."
woiik not hire beta to over- might he lAul (ihsed) wiUt
Now who, in reading these parallel notes, but
would suppose that it is Mr. Ejii^ht wbo restores
shoes to tbe text, and that it is Mr. Knight who
points out the common allusion by our old poets
to the shoes of Hercules P Who would imagine
that tbe substance of this correction of Theobald
was written by Steevens a couple of generations
back, and that, consequently, Theobald's proposed
alteration bad never been adopted P
I should not think of pointing out this, but
that Mr. £nigbt bimself, in this same prospectus,
has taken Mr. Collier to task for the very same
thing ; that is, for taking credit, in hia Noles and
EmeJidotums, for all the folio MS. i
whether known or unknown, necessary (
Indeed, the very words of Mr. Knight's com-
plaint against Mr. Collier are curiously applicable-
to himself;
" It requires the most fixed attention to the nice
distinctions of such constantly-recurring ' notes and
emendations,' to distmbiirrass tha cursory reader from
the notion tliat these are bou& fide corrections of the-
BHABSPEABE BEAniNGS, HO. IS.
" It lies as sightly on the hack of him
As great Alcldes' shoes upon an ass."
King John, Act II. 8c. I.
" The ass was to vtar the shoes, and not to bear
them on his back, as Theobald supposed, and therefoie
would read ihoai. The 'shoes of Hercules' were aa
commonly alluded to bf our old poets, as tbe <x ptde
Marculeai was a familiar allusion of tbe learned." ( Mr.
night in
39.)
Fourteen years' additional consideration has not
altered Mr. Knight's view of this passage. Inl8fi3
we find him putting forth a prospectus for a new
edition of Shakspeare, to be called "The Stratford
Edition," varioua portions from which he sets be-
fore the public by way of sample. Here we have
"Who cares to know what errors are corrected in"
(the forthcoming Stratford edition), "that exist in no
other, and which have never been introduced into tho
modem test?" — Sptcimtn, UiC, p. xxiv.
The impression one would receive irom Mr.
Knight's note upon Theobald is, that Shakspeare
had bis notion of the shoes from " our old poets,"
while ike learned had Iheirs from ex pede Her-
cvlem; but where the analogy lies, wherein tbe
point, or what tbe application, ia not explained.
Steevens' original note was superior to this, in so
much that he quoted tbe words of these old poets,
thereby giving bis readers an opportunityof con-
sidering the justness of the deduction. The only
se^ofi' to this omission by Mr. Knight is tbe intro-
duction of "ex pede Herculem," tbe merit of wbicb
is doubtless bis own.
But it so happens that the size of the foot of
Hercules has no more to do with tbe real point of
the allusion than tbe length of Frester John's ;
therefore ex pede Herculem is a most unfortunate-
illustration, — particularly awkward in a specimen
sample, the excellence of which may be ijaes- .
tioned.
July 9/ 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
29
It is sin^lar enough, and it says a great deal
for Theobald's common sense, that he saw what
the true intention of the allusion must be, although
he did not know how to reconcile it with the ex-
isting letter of the text. He wished to preserve the
spirit by the sacrifice of the letter, while Mr. Knight
preserves the letter but misinterprets the spirit.
Theobald's word " shows," in the sense of ex-
ternals, is very nearly what Shakspeare meant by
^hoes, except that shoes implies a great deal more
than shows, — it implies the assumption of the
eharacter as well as the externals of Hercules.
Out of five quotations from our old poets, given
by Steevens in the first edition of his note, there is
sot one in which the shoes are not provided with
foet But Malone, to his immortal honour, was
the first to furnish them with hoofs :
** Upon an ass ; t. e, upon the hoofs of an ass.**
Malone.
But Shakspeare nowhere alludes to feet ! His
■ass most probably had feet, and so had Juvenal's
verse (when he talks of his " satyr^ sumente co-
thurnum ") ; but neither Shakspeare nor Juvenal
dreamed of any necessary connexion between the
feet and the shoes.
Therein lies the diflerence between Shakspeare
und "our old poets;" a difierence that ought to
be sufficient, of itself, to put down the common
cry, — that Shakspeare borrowed his allusions from
them. If so, how is it that his. expositors, with
these old poets before their eyes all this time,
together with their own scholarship to boot, have
so widely mistaken the true point of his allusion ?
It is precisely because they have confined their
researches to these old poets, and have not followed
Shakspeare to the fountain head.
There is a passage in Quintilian which, very
probably, has been the common source of both
Shakspeare's version, and that of the old poets ;
with this difierence, that he understood the original
4ind they did not.
Quintilian is cautioning against the introduction
of solemn bombast in trifling afiairs :
** To get up,** says he, " this sort of pompous tragedy
about mean matters, is as though you would dress up
•children with the Tnask and buskins of Hercules.**
[" Nam in parvis quidem litibus has tragoedias movere
tale. est quale si personam Herculis et cothurnos aptare
Infantibus velis.*']
Here the addition of the mask proves that the
allusion is purely theatrical. The mask and bus-
kins are put for the stage trappings, or properties,
of the part of Hercules : of these, one of the items
was the liorCs shin ; and hence the extreme aptitude
of the allusion, as applied by the Bastard, in KiTig
John, to Austria, who was assuming the importance
of Coeur de Lion !
It is interesting to observe how nearly Theo-
bald's plain, homely sense, led him to the necessity
of the context. The real points of the allusion can
scarcely be expressed in better words than his
own:
** Faulconbridge, in his resentment, would say this to
Austria, * That lion's skin which my great father, King
Richard, once wore, looks as uncouthlyon thy back, as
that other noble hide, which was borne by Hercules,
would look on the back of an ass ! * A double allusion
was intended : first, to the fable of the ass in the lion's,
skin; then Richard I. is 6nely set in competition with
Alcides, as Austria is satirically coupled with the ass.**
One step farther, and Theobald would have dis-
covered the true solution : he only required to
know that the shoes, by a figure of rhetoric called
synecdoche, may stand for the whole character and
attributes of Hercules, to have saved himself the
trouble of conjecturing an ingenious, though infi-
nitely worse word, as a substitute.
As for subsequent annotators, it must be from
the mental preoccupation of this unlucky "ex
pede Herculem," that they have so often put their
foot in it. They have worked up Alcides' shoe
into a sort of antithesis to Cinderella's ; and, like
Procrustes, they are resolved to stretch everything
to fit. A. E. B.
Leeds.
GOTHES AUTHOB-BEMUNEBATION.
The Note in your valuable Journal (Vol. vii.,
p. 591.) requires, I think, so far as it relates to
Gothe, several corrections which I am in the positioa
of making. The amount which that great man is
said to have received for his "works (aggregate)"
is "30,000 crowns." The person who originality
printed this statement must have been completely
Ignorant of Gothe's affairs, and even biography.
Gothe had (unlike Byron) several publishers
in his younger years. Subsequently he became
closer connected with M. J, G, Cotta of Stuttgardt,
who, in succession, published almost all Gothe's
works. Amongst them were several editions of
his complete works : for instance, that published
conjointly at Vienna and Stuttgardt. Then
came, in 1829, what was called the edition of the
last hand (^Ausgabe letzter Hand), as Gothe was
then more than eighty years of age. During all
the time these two editions were published, other
detached new works of Gothe were also printed ;
as well as new editions of former books, &c. Who
can now say that it was 20,000 crowns (thalers f^
which the great poet received for each various
performance ? — No one. And this for many rea-
sons. Gothe always remained with M. Cotta on
terms of polite acquaintanceship, no more : there
was no " My dear Murray" in their strictly busi-
ness-like connexion. Gothe also never wrote on
such things, even in his bio^aphy. or diary. But
some talk was going around in Grermany, that for
one of the editions of his complete works (there
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[No. 198,
tppenred itill many volumei of posthumoui), he
had rec«iYed the above sum. I can asiert on
ffood Ruthorlt3r, that GOthc^ foreieeing his increae-
biff popularity even lon^ afier hii death, stipulated
with M. Cotta to pay his heirs a certain sum fbr
•Terj new edition of either his complete or single
works. One of the recipients of these yet cufrent
accrmnti is Bardn Wolfgang von Giithe, Attache
of the Prussian Legation at Rome.
A FoRmoN SvRoaoN.
Charlotte Street, Bloomibury Squnre.
II i^e Father of the godft his glory shrouils,
Involved in tempests and a night of clouds.**
Dryden^s ^rgiK
" Mars, hovering o*er his Troy, hU terror shrouds
tn gloomy tempests and a night of clouds.**
Pope*8 Uomtr'i IHadt book xx. lines 69) 70.
Unpublished Epitaphs. — I copied the fbllowlntt
two epitaphs from monuments in the churchyard
of Llangerrig, Montgomervshirc, last autumn.
Thev perhaps deserve printing from the slight re-
eemblance they bear to that Tn Melrose Church-
yard, quoted in Vol. vil., pp. 676, 677. :
" O earth, O earth I observe this well —
That earth to earth shall come to dwell i
Then earth In earth shall clo^e remain
Till earth fVom earth shall rise again.**
•• From earth my body first arow ;
But here to earth again it goes.
1 never desire to have it more,
To plague me as it did befbre.**
P. H. FtSftBft.
The Colour qflnh in Writings. — My attention
was called to thig subject some years ago by an
attempt made in a Judicial proceeding to prove
that part of a paper produced was written at a
ditiTerent time than the rest, because part differed
from the rest in the shade of the ink. The follow-
ing conclusions have been the result of my ob-
•ervations upon the subject :
1. That if the ink of part of a writing Is of a
dtfierent shade, though of the same colour, fVom
that of the other parts, we cannot infer fVom that
droumitanoe alone that the writing was done at
different times. Ink taken (Vom tne top of an
Inkitand will be lighter than that fVom the oottom.
wher« the dregt are : the deeper the pen is dipped
into Uie ink, the darker the writing will be.
3. Writing performed with a pen that hai been
used before, will be darker than that with a new
pen ; for the dry residuum of the old Ink that is
encrusted on the used pen will mix with the new
ink, and make It darker. And ibr the same
reason--
8. Writing with a pen previously used will b«
darker at first than it is afler the old deposi^
having been mixed up with the new ink, is used
up. M. B.
Philadelphia.
Literary /^tfwI/^/tf.-- Has it ever been noticed
that the well-known epitaph, sometimes assigned
to Robin of Doncaster, sometimes to Edward
Courtenay, third Earl of Devon, and I believe to
others besides : ** What I gave, that I have,** ltc.»
has been anticipated by, if not imitated fVomi
Martial, book v. epigr. 4^., of which the last two
lines are :
*' Extra fbrtttnam est, quiequld donatur amiels )
Quaa dederis, solss semper habebis opes.**
The English is so much more terse and senten*
tlous, besides involving a much higher moral si^-^
nifioation, that it may well be an original itsclt i,
but in that caae, the verbal coincidence is striking
enough. J. S. Wardbm.
Latin Verses pr^ed to Parish Registers, — On
a fiy-leaf in one of the registers of the parish of
Hawsted. Suffolk, Is the following note in the
handwrittnff of the Hcv. Sir John CuUum, the-
rector and historian of the parish :
** Many old register books begin with some Latin
lines, expressive of their design. The two following,
in that of St. Saviour's at Norwich, are as good as any
I have met with i
< Janua, Baptisms t medio stat T<»dajn$nUs
Utroque es folix, mort pia si sequltur.* **
Can any of your correspondents contribute other
examples f Buntsifite.
Napokon's Bees fVol. vil., p. 535.). — No one>
I believe, having addressed you farther on tha
subject of the Napoleon Bees, the models of
which are stated to nave been found in the tomb
of Childeric when opened in 1653^ '* of the purest
gold, their wings being inlaid with a red stone.,
ke a cornelian, t beg to mention that the small
ornaments resembling oees found in the tomb of
Childeric, were only what in French are called
Heurons (supposed to have been attached to the
narness of liis war-horse^. HandfVtls of them
were found when the tomo was opened at Tour-^
nay, and sent to Louis XtV. They were de-
posited on a green ground at Versailles.
Napoleon wishing to have some regal emblem
more ancient than the fleur*de4ys^ adopted the
fteurfms as bees, and the green ground as the
original Merovingian colour.
This fkot was related to me as unquestionable
by Augustin Thierry, the celebrated historian^
wW I was last in Vim, Wn. Ewaxt.
University Club.
Jolts. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
In the Qaaiierls Review for 18S2 (toL xc.
Ko. 179.) appeared a clever and speciouslj writ-
ten article on the long debated question of the
identity of Juniua, in which the writer labours at
great length to prove that Thomaa, second Lord
Ljttelton, nho died in 1779, was the rati sub-
staace of the shadow of Jmuus, hitherto sought ia
▼sin. That this Lord LjtteltOD was fully com-
petent to the task, I do not doubt j and that there
are^jnanj points in his character which may well
be reconciled with the knowledge we possess of
the imaginary Junius, I also admit — but this is
all. The author of the rsTiew has wholly fiuled,
in my opinion, to prove his ease ; and the remark
Le makes on Mr. Britten's theory (as to Col. Barre)
may equally well apply to his own, namely, that
it affords "a [another] curious instance of the
delusion to which ingenious men may resign them-
selves, when they have a favourite opinion to up-
hold 1 " The reviewer, indeed, admits that he baa
"traced the parallel from the scantiest materials;"
and in auotber passage repeats, that but " few
materials exist for a sketch of Thomas Lyttelton'a
life." Of these materials used by the reviewer,
the principal portion has been derived from the
twoYolumes of letters published in 1760 and 1782,
attributed to Lord Lyttelton, bnt the anthorship
of which has since been claimed for Williun
Coombe, The reviewer argues, that they are
■"Bubstantiaily genuine;" but evidence, it is be-
lieved, exists to the contrary.* According to
Chalmers, these letters were "publicly disowned"
■by the executors of Lord Lytlelton ; and this ia
confirmed by the notice in the Oentleman'a Maga-
xint for 1780, p. 138., shortly after the publication
of the first volume. Putting aside, however, this
moot-point (which, I trust, will he taken up by
abler hands, jis it bears greatly on the theory ad-
^-aaced by the author of the Review), I proceed to
another and more conclusive line of ailment.
In the Prelimimn/ Eitay, prefixed to Wocdfall's
edition of Junius, 1812 fvof. i. p. '46.), the follow-
ing Btatement is made in regard to that writer,
the accuracy of which will scarcely be doubted :
■■ The™
I point
3 life
during hia
not be nifTeied to pua b? without observation : and
ttut is, that daring a great part of thit Htm, from Jmti-
ary HSS to Januaiy 1772, he lalfomlg raided la
jAmdim, or itt iamaliait VKinify, and that Ae mver
gnUitd hit itaied habiiatum for a langtr period than a
. • I huT
Now, do tie known facts of Thomas Lyttelton's
life correspond with tiiii striemeot «r not ? The
reviewer says, p. US. :
" For a period of three jean after Mr. Ljttelton
lost his seat" — Ihat period dun'itg whidi Juaivt tn»*r
hit adntouAedged compotititmi — ve bnnijy find a trvoe
of him in any of the c«tt«niponuieau> letters or ms-
miMrs that have f^len under our obserTEtion."
But how is it, let me ask, that the author of the
review has so studiouslv avoided all mention of
one work, which would at once have furnished
traces of Thomas Lyttelton at this very period P
I allude to the volume of Poemi by a Young
Nobleman of diitingyUlied Abilities, Intely dececuBO,
published b;^ G. Kearsley : London, 17S0, 4to.
Does not this look much like the aappressio veti
which follows close on the footsteps of the oraertip
falsi T It is hardly credible that the reviewer
should not be acquainted with this book, for he
refers to the lines spoken in 1765, at Stowe, in the
character of Queen Mab, which form part of ite
contents ; and the existence of the work is ex-
pressly pointed out by Chalmers, and noticed by
Lowndes, Watt, and other bibliographers. Among
the poems here published, are some which ongfat
to have received a prominent notice from Uie
author of the review, if he had fairly stated tlie
case. These are :
1. Lines "to G e Ed d Ays— gh, Esq.,
[George Edward Ayscaugli, cousin to Thomas Lyt-
telton]Jr™ Veaict, the 20lh Jflii, 1770."— P. 22.
S. " An Irrc^ul^ Ode, torote ai Ficema, in ilo^, lit
2CM* of ^i^iui, 1 770."— P. 29.
3. '■ On Mr. , at Venice, in J- , 1770."
4. " An Invitation to Mrs. A— a D , moU at
Ghent in Flanden, the 2Srd of March, 1769." — P. 11.
5. " An Extempore, by Lord Lyttdton, in Itah/, oimtr
1770." — P. 48.
Admitting that these poems ere genuine, it is
evident that their author, Thomas Lyttelton, w8B
abroad in Flanders and Ita^ durin» the years
1769 and 1770; and consequently could not have
been the mysterious Junius, who in those years
(particularly in 1769) was writing constantly in
3r near London to Woodfall and the t^diHc
AdverttMer. Of what value then is the assertion
to confidently made by the reviewer (p. 133.) :
" The position of TTiDnms Ljttelton in the five years
From IT&7 Co 1779, is exactly aucb a one u it is rw-
lonable to mppoae thit Junius held during the period
)f his writings ; "
jr how can it be made to agree wilh the fact of
lis residence on the Continent during tJie greater
jart of the time f
33 NOTES AND QUERIES. [Na IBS.
The rtciewer, indMit, (ellR u« thitt "jiwl ni The sbove Mr. ]taberli wm nn IntlniMe per-
JuniiM cnnolurled his (treot work, TliomM Ljt- tonjl IVlpnd; niid fVoin Ills Inril inniience «i liniliff
tellon returned ti> lii« fittlier'f house, nnil OhnlUun ninl deputy -rccni^er nf Itewille;, bail no ihmbt
«u one of the first tn confTMiluUte Lord Lyl- cimlriliuted towftnls lliuinM Ljtlelton'n return
telton on the event." Thii wrs in l''ebruBr7 177'i i Tor tlmt borouph in ITiiR. lli« inn continued to
KuA in the Chatham CorretpoHdenrr, vol.iv. [i. 1B3., keen up a elnw connexion with the Vfljentift rmnily
Ii Lord Ljttelton'n letter of thtnki in reply. «t Arley Itoll* ; and this fitol, onntited with the
The reviewer would evidenil* hs»e It Inferred, clone proximity of Hewdley. ArJeyi nod llitglejr,
thtit TimniRfl Ltttellon had relumed home like A «nd the cii-Dumstnnce of the co-ex ecutorohip of
prodigal son, niter n temtxirarr cfltritngement, unit Lord Valentia and Mr. Kuberts, would make tu
iVoiu n coniimratiTet; short distance i but surely, natnr^ly look to the library at Arhr ns a not
hail tlie volume of Poemi been referred tn, It unlikely place nf dejMwit for llinmBt Lytielton'a
mlftht or rather mtml have occurred to a candid impera. This is not mere eot\|eciure, anrl brinn
Inquirer, that in February 1773 Thomas Lyt- me immedialelr to the imtnt at Issue: for, nt the
telton returned from his irarfli on the CDnHwnlt «ale of the Valentia Lltmtry at Arley Utstle, In
ttfUr an abgenft of nraHf thref yMm I tlut, per- December last, a manuscript volume maile lis ap-
haps, the authenticity ol' the Potmt may nt once pearance In a lot with others thus designated ;
be Wdly denied f Is this the easef Chalmers „n.i-i— i tii... _■■ t i r-r t-^ v.i_„.i.i
certaiidy'include. them with the 1,(1,,-,, as haring , '?'^^l M „!„12™ n J, „r ll^^J^-nJ
1 ,,-,. Ill I T 1 I 1 , . . ^ vols. 1 five i»lifnior«nnum Hooss of -Poutnevi ana
been " disowned by Loril L. ■ executors i but ■i-„,_i. , -i„, 7^.., „u pj.-« i-.j«..u «*■ it^^.^i n_>;.
•ays, "as to tlie /Vm*, the;y added, ' grenl part pi,ttf."
KtTtvfare tindimUetllv xpnrwwi' " It Is certain, „,,„,., , , , ,
therefore, that snmc -if the Potm, are genuine ; '^« 1^ ">e fol'o volumes thus patslo^t.ed subse-
and it is a pity that the exceiiHons were not spe- H"*"*'; '••'"e into my ham^ an. I Is evi.lcnilv one
cified, as tlie disciiPsion might then have bUn ofthe mnnuscrliUslellby Ih.miasLordLyituliona
confined within narrower limlls. The editor of "•'• J" the care of Mr. Uobertc, smce it consista
the iVms. in his address " To the Header," writes 'V*'>"J of pieces In terse and prose of his conipo-
thus in vindicaiion of them : *'^'"'' ^'^'ten either m A„ mm Aonrf, ns rough
4™ ,„, b., ir^""^;;^^;.-:;";,''';,;;-;;-; p«,, i„ ,1,1, m i «n,i S,. A; ,., i .;.
».»»«.».^«i fciti. «» xf. t.^ i^^.^ '""ft poem printed In the edition nf liSO, p, 1.,
.™, ,., .,;.,nK* ™*« ..^M-nS «lf'l.^i\- «•>• .r E«.i.";i In .!» I.™- > W
«.. «iun..i«l. ihnt B..KO-. ftnrf.rtfoflt tnwM ft. fnn.- «"'«" <" •"h.mt .Ute in the MH,, but in itie etit-
rfi.r./v <irtfrif^,' tiiin beara ilnle Mnirh 21, IT7I i nn lik<!ivi«e th.
TbH is <b? te.timnny nf one wbo "hml tbe «,i,i„u .„™-... u .i,- Mu ^:.{..,..i .... . .hJ
h.n™ii- »r hi> IHenMnp, -MA Wmto.le.l only S'VfE™! !..„ i. «il Ti'.-T-.lu
W, o.n ronriellon !■ In fatotir of 8.. .{ntSnllolt. fk. „i „?, ' v!jj° i.™ ' 5 £ i K w
ofii,. .boi. , lint, .1 .11 .™,i^ 1 .i,.ii b. .bit li ;• "X" °/„ y."^;, ,i;fr?: . 1 ' " I Ki;
..... „r .t I . .„ 1 . 1 ii.t ....I »,. .r .1... .b. omlttwl In tlie ei iHon on woouni of tbeir imle-
w.rt If tbe Tobinie, .ml mlilitlon.l proof th.t the ,.„„, 'n..« .» ....») , 1..!..^. t« .).. ......
Intlior ».. .lit«.r.l tke lireel.e time .h.n, If S'- ,iS"™.r,w il. J .1.1; 1™ ™
William rienry Lor.1 Westeole. and Wilson Ayies- '*"* »''« «*''''*^ ^«"t«'"'» "^ "''* "'<"»'«^'-'l'» ""'"'"e =
bury llnberts of Hewdley. To the Utter he let) all Dntnahia of (bur leiicts rrittn hg nomni Ls^rt-
hts " letters, verses, speeches, and writings," with W" /'«« Lfw, ihijtm i^nMrh u rfsM i^cpirmlirr m,
directions that, If published. It should be for his l^ns.
able emolument, llie Imiiortant Query therefore I'«"'« "' " •"'" "f Dinlopin. In liniWIlon of
«t mice arises, «Aal btf«mt of Oieu maniucripit, " i«jl«g«" of 'he Dead." b, M, milicr (teorsp. first
■°^"^'^-» *rtn,erforpr.«n.^^^ "-"^tWi^U^ts. Imitated tVom Lu,«llu.
" In thePflH(r.^rfpfr(inTlbt Januiirv 1, |JJ9[IT90],
apu^s red ■ notice oniie /Wmi, until tohavr linn "pub- * The eiitale at Arlev was IvR to the llun. Geotf*
lt*liedynt?rdaf •"■udalltiouiili lwo|iieTessree*traet«il Anneslcy (afterwards Karl of MminiumiU), son i^
at let>Kth, not a sillable of doubt li eiprwed •> to Lord Vilenila, bj iht will of HiomH Lotil Lytullodi
their gentibiFiieH. and Mr. lloberts was oue of th« Irualen ippidnled.
JiTLT 9. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES. '
33
Tito letters addressed by Thoinu Lytlelton to hia
father ; and a third to " Dear George," probabi; bis
cousin Geo^e EdiraTd Ayscaugh.
Some Latin lines, not remarkable fbr their deli-
Folillcal letter, airiHm /ram Jfifan, by Thomas
Lyttelton ; in which indignant notice is taken of the
eommilal of Brass Crossby, Lord Major, which too*
plate in March, 1771.
Fragment of a poem on Superstition, and Tarious
other unfinished poetical scraps.
Private memoranda of cipenses.
A page of writing in a fictitious or short-hand
character, of ntiich I can make nothing.
Remarks, in prose, on the polypus, priestcraft, &o.
Poem in French, of an amatory character.
Portion of a remarkable polilical letter, containing
■ome bitter remarks by llioaias LytteltOB on the
"first minister." He ends thus: "The play now
draws to a conclusion. I am guilty of a breach of
trust in telling him so, but I shall [not] suffer by my
indiscretion, for it is au absolute itn possibility any
man should divine who Is the author of thi letter
ugned AnusFEX."
It would appear from tbe water-mark in the
paper of wliich this MS. is composed, that it waa
procured in Italy ; and there can be little or no
doubt it was used by Thomas Lyttelton as a
draught-hook, during his travels there in 1769 —
1771 ; during which period, nearly the whole of
the contents seem to have heen written. The
evidence afforded therefore by diis volume, comes
peculiarly in support of the datea and other cir-
cuuistanoea put forth in the printed volume of
Poeins; and leads ns inevitably to the conclusion,
that it was utterly impossible for Thomas LyttelUm
to haee had any share in the Letters of Junius. H6
Las enough to answer for on the score of his early
profligacy and scepticism, without being dragged
from the grave to be arraigned for the crime of
deceit. Hia heart need not, according to the re-
viewer, be " stripped hare" by the scalpel of any
literary anatomist; but he may be leU to that
quiet and oblivion which a sepulchre in general
bestows. Before I conclude these remarks (which
I fear are too diffuse), I will venture to add a few
words in regard to the signature of Thomas Lord
Lyttelton. In the Chatham Correspondence, a
letter from him to Earl Temple is printed, vol. iv.
p. 343., the sionature to which is printed Ltt-
TLETOK, and the editors point out in a note the
" alteration adopted" in the spelling of the name ;
but it is altogether an error, for the fac-simlle of
this sijrnature in vol. iv. p. 29., as well as his will
in the Prerogative Court, prove that he wrote hia
name Lyttelion, in the same manner as his father
and uncle. As to the resemblance pointed out by
the author of the Remeta between the handwrit-
ing; of Thomas Lyttelton and that of Junius, it
exists only in imagination, since there is really no
BuniUtude whatever betweoi tiiem.
Some Queries are now annexed, in reference to
what has been above discussed :
1. In what publication or in what form did the
executors of Thomas Lord Lyttelton disown the
Letters and Poems ?
2. Is it known who was the editor of the Poenu
published in 1780?
3. Can the present representadve of the family
of Roberts give any farther information respecting
Thomas Lord Ljttelton's manuscripts P
4. Lastly, Is any letter tnown to exist in tha
public journals of the years 1770, 1771, under the
signature of ABCapEx? F. Maddxs.
British Museum.
Lord CAafAam. — I would suggest as a Query,
whether Lord Chatham's famous comparison of the
Fox and Newcastle ministry to the confluence of
the Khone and Saono at Lyons (Speech, Nov, 13,
1755), waa not adapted fi'om a passage in Lord.
Roscommon's Essay on translated Verse. Possibly
Lord Chatham may have merely quoted the lines
of Roac;ommon, and reporters may have converted
his quotation into prose. Lord Chatham (then of
course Mr. Pitt) is represented to have said :
" I remember at Lyoni to haie been carried to the
eonflui of the Rhone and the Soane : the one a gentle,
feeble, languid stream, and, though languid, of no
depth ; the other, a boisterous and impetiiout torrent."
Lord Roscommon says :
'• Thus iave I sua a rapid headlong tide.
With foaming vaves the pas^ve Saone divide
Whose lazy waters without motion lay.
While be, with eager tbree, urg'd his impttimut way."
W. EwAitr.
University Club.
Slow-worm Superslition. — <kiuld any of your
correspondents kindly inform me whether there is
any foundation for tfie superstition, that if a slow-
worm be divided into two or more parts, those
parts will continue to live till sunset (life I snp-
pose to mean that tremulous motion which the
divided parts, for some time after the cruel ope-
ration, continue to have), and whether it exists in
any other country or county beades Sussex, in
which county I first heard of it ? Towbb.
Tan^iers (Tol, vli., p. 12.). — I have not seen
any opinion as to these Queries. A. C.
Snail Gardens. — What are the continental en-
closures called snfdl gardens ? C. M. T.
Oare.
Naples and the Campa^na Felice. — Who wiia
the author of letters bearing this title, which uri-
u
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[N<x 193:
ginftllj appeared in Ackermann's Reponiory, and
were published in a collected form in 1815 ?
In a catalogue (^ Jno. Miller^s (April, 1853), I
see tliem attributed to Combe. Q.
Philadelphia.
" The Land of Green Ginger ^^ — the name of a
street in Hull. Can any of your correspondents
inform me why so called ? K. H. B.
Mugger. — Why are the gipsies in the North of
England called Muggers f Is it because they sell
mugs, and other articles of crockery, that in fact
being their general vocation 'r* or may not the word
be a corruption of Maghraibee^ which is, I think, a
foreign name given to this wandering race ?
H. T. Riley.
Snail-eating. — Can any of your correspondents
inform me in what part of Surrey a breed of large
white snails is still to be found, the first of which
were brought to this country from Italy, by a
member, I think, of the Arundel family, to gratify
the palate of his wife, an Italian lady ? I have
searched Britton and Brayley's History in vain.
H. T. RttET.
Mysterious PersoTtage, — Who is the mysterious
personage, what is h^ real or assumed lineage,
who has, not unfrequently, been alluded to in
recent newspaper articles as a legitimate Roman
Catholic claimant of the English throne? Of
course I do not allude to those pseudo-Stnarts, the
brothers Hay Allan. W. Pinkekton.
George Wood of Chester: — Of what family was
George Wood, Esq., Justice of Chester in the first
year of the reign of Queen Elizabeth, 1558 ?
Cestbisnsis.
A Scale of Vowel Sounds. — Can any correspon-
dent tell me if such scale has anywhere been
agreed on for sdentj^c purposes ? Researches into
the philosophy of philology are rendered exces-
avely complex by the want of such a scale, every
different inquirer adopting a peculiar notation,
which is a study in itself, and which, after all, is
unsatisfactory. I should feel obliged by any re-
fierence to what has been done in thb matter.
E.C.
Seven Oaks and Nine Elms. — Can any reader
of " N. & Q." inform me whether there is any old
custom or superstition connected with Seven Oaks
and Nine Elms, even to be traced as far back as
the time of the Druids ?
In some old grounds in Warwickshire there is a
drcle of nine old elm- trees ; and, besides the well-
known Nine Elms at Vauxhall, and Seven Oaks
in Kent, there are several other places of the same
names in England. J. S. A.
Old Broad Street.
Murder of Monaldeschi. — I will thank snyof
your correspondents who can ^ive me an account
of the murder of Monaldeschi, equerry to Chris-
tina, Queen of Sweden.
In the 2nd volume of Miss Pardoe's Louis XIV.
(p. 177.), Christina is stated to have visited the
Court of France, and housed at Fontainebleau,
where she had not long been an inmate ere the
tragedy of Monaldeschi took place ; and in a letter
to Mazarin she says, " Those who acquainted, you
with the details regarding Monaldeschi were very
iU-informed." T. C, T.
Governor Dameram, — I should be glad of any
particulars respecting the above, who was Go-
vernor of Canada (I think) about the commence-
ment of the present century. He had previously
been the head of the commissariat department in
the continental expeditions. Tes Bmb.
Ancient Arms of the See of York. — Can any cor-
respondent enlighten me as to the period, and
why, the present arms were substituted for the
ancient bearings of York ? The modern coat is,
Gu. two keys in saltire arg., in chief an imperial
crown proper. The ancient coat was blazoned,
Az. an episcopal staff* in pale or, and ensicrned
with a cross patee arg., surmounted by a pail of
the last, edged and fringed of the second, cnarged
with six crosses formce fitchee sa., and diiSered
only from that of Canterbury in the number of
crosses formee fitchee with which the pall was
charged. Tee Bes.
Hupfeld, — Can any correspondent of "N. & Q."
tell me where I can see Hupfeld, Von der Naiwr
lind den Arten der SprachlaiUe, which is quoted by
several German authors ? It appeared m Jahn 8
Jahrh. der PhiloL und Pdd.^ 1829. If no corre-
spondent can refer me to any place where the
paper can be seen in London, perhaps they can
direct me to some account of its substance in some
English publication. £. G.
Inscription on a Tomb in Finland. — Can any
reader of " N. & Q." explain the meaning of th0
following inscription ?
*<IBTATIB IN SUBDITOS
MABTTRI
.'lXi:S CONIDGAUS
IV "
It appears on an old monument of considerable
size in a Finnish burial-ground at Martishkin near
Peterhofi'on the Gulf of Finland. The letters are
in brass on a stone slab. The dots before the iv.^
and in the other word, are holes in the stone where-
in the missing characters had been fixed.
«r« s. A«-
Old Broad Street
Sir Isaac Newton and VdUaxre on Bailway Trm*
veiling. — Having been forciblj impressed b^ a
July 9. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
35
paragraph in a popular periodical {The Leisure
Hour^ Ko. 72.)9 I am desirous of learning upon
irhat authority the statements therein depend.
As, perhaps, it may also prove interesting to some
of the readers of ** N. & Q." who may not already
have seen it, and in the hope Uiat some of your
•contributors may be able to throw a light upon so
^curious a subject, I herewith transcribe it:
**Sir Isaac Newton and Voltaire on Railway Travdling.
— Sir Isaac Newton wrote a work upon the prophet
Daniel, and another upon the book of Revelation, in
one of which he said that in order to fulfil certain pro-
phecies before a certain date was terminated, namely,
1260 years, there would be a mode of travelling of
which the men of his time had no conception ; nay,
that the knowledge of mankind would be so increased,
that they would be able to travel at the rate of fifty
miles an hour. Voltaire, who did not believe in the
inspiration of the scriptures, got hold of this, and said:
•* Now look at that mighty mind of Newton, who dis-
covered gravity, and told us such marvels for us all to
-admire. When he became an old man, and got into
his dotage, he began to study that book called the
Bible ; and it seems, that in order to credit its fabulous
nonsense, we must believe that the knowledge of man-
Icind will be so increased that we shall be able to travel
at the rate of fifty miles an hour. The poor dotard ! '
•exclaimed the philosophic infidel Voltaire, in the self-
complacency of his pity. But who is the dotard now ?
— Rev, J, Craig,''
The Query I would more particularly ask is
^presuming the accuracy of the assertions), What
is the prophecy so wonderfully fulfilled ? R. W.
Tom Thumb's House at Oonerhy, Lincolnshire, —
On the south-west side of the tower of the church
of Great Gonerby, Lincolnshire, is a curious cor-
nice representing a house with a door in the
<jentre, an oriel window, &c., which is popularly
called "Tom Thumb's Castle." I have a small
-engraving of it (" W. T. del. 1820, R. R. sculpt.") :
and a pencil states that on the same tower are
other " curious carvings."
I would ask, therefore. Why carved? From
"what event or occasion? For whom? Why
■called "Tom Thumb's House?" And what are
the other curious carvings ? G. Creed.
Mr, Payne Collier's Monovolume Shakspeare, —
I should be extremely obliged to Mb. Collier, if
he would kindly give me a public reply to the fol-
lowing question.
The express terms of the publication of his
monovolume edition of Shakspeaxe, as advertised,
were —
" The text regulated by the <M copies, and by the
recently discovered foUo of 1632."
These terms manifestly exclude corrections from
any other source that those of coUaiian of the old
cQpies^ and tbeilif^. correcfim of the fi>lio of 1632.
Now the text of Mb. Collibb*8 monovolume
reprint contains many of the emendations of the
commentators not referred ta in Notes and Emend*
ations. For example : in The Taming of the Shrew^
where Biondello runs in to announce the coming
down the hill of the " ancient ansel " (chansed by
the corrector into ambler), two other alterations in
the same sentence appear without explanation in
the regulated text, namely, mercatante substituted
by Steevens for "marcantant" of the folios; and
surely in lieu of " surly," which latter is the word
of the folio of 16S2,
I now ask Mr. Collier, on what authority were
these emendations adopted ?
C. Mansfield Inglbbt*
Birmingham.
WILD PLANTS AND THEIR NAMES.
(Vol. vii., pp. 175. 233.)
Perhaps the following may prove of some use te
Enivri, m reply to his Query respecting the names
of certain wild flowers.
1. Shepherd's Purse (Bursa pastoris). " Sic
diet, a folliculis seminum, qui crumenulam referre
videntur." Also called Poor Man's Parmacitty,
" Quia ad contuses et casu afflictos instar sper*
matis ceti utile est." Also St. James's Wort,
" Quia circa ejus festum florescit," July 28th.
Also called Pick-purse.
2. Eye-bright, according to Skinner {Euphra*
sia\ Teut. Augentrost ; " Oculorum solamen, quia
visum eximie acuit." Fluellin (Veronica femina)^
" Forte a Leolino aliquo Cambro-Brit. ejus inven-
tore."
3. Pass Wort, or Palsy Wort (Primula veris).
" Herba paralyseos."
4. Guelder Kose (Sanibucu^osea), "Quia ex
Gueldrid hue translata est." flmeldria is, or rather
was, a colony, founded by the Hollanders, on the
coast of Coromandel.
5. Ladies' Tresses, a corruption of traces, A
kind of orchis, and used, with its various appel-
lations, " sensu obsc."
6. The Kentish term Gazel is not improbably
the same as Gale, which. Skinner says, is from the
A.-S. Gagel (Myrtus brabantica'),
7. Stitch Wort (Gramen leucanthemum, aliaa^
Hohstium pumUum), " Sic diet, quia ad dolores
laterum punctorios multum prodesse creditur."
8. The term Knappert, for Bitter Vetch, is pro-
bably a corruption of Knap Wort, the first syl-
lable of which, as in ICnap W eed and Knap Bottle^
is derived from the sound or snap emitted by it
when struck in the hollow of the hand.
9. Charlock (Rapum sylvestre); Anglo-Saxon
Cerlice.
se
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 193.
10. London Pride or Tufts (Armeria proliftra).
" Sic diet, quia flfres propter pulcbritudinem
Londtoi vald£ expetuntur." (P)
11. Arens; also HerbBennet QCaryophj/Sata).
Skinner says, " Herba Benedicta ab inaignt radios
vulDerariS vi." (?)
12. Mill Mountain, or Pur^e Flax (Zinum sj/l-
vettre catharlicunt, or Chamalinum). " Montibua
gandet."
13. Jack of tbe Buttery. "Sedi ipecie^; sic
diet, quia in tecto galacterii cresc'it." Pricket ; " a
Bapore acri."
14. Cudweed or Cotton Weed ; Live-long,
" Quia planta perennis est."
15. Sun Spurge. " Quia flores ad ortum soils
se aperiunt." Churn Staff, from ita similarity.
16. Welcome to our House {Titkymaliis Cypa-
ruaiaa). " Ob pulcbritudinem suam omnibus ex-
petitus."
IT. Kuddes {Fl. Calendulti). "Acolore aureo."
Wild or Cora Marigold. "Q. d. aurum Marite,
a colore so. floria luteo." Glouls or Goulans, with
& half-suppressed d, may Tery well be supposed to
indicate ita natural name — Gold. Anotner name
of this plant ia Lockron, or Locker Goulans.
18. Sparry (Spergula). " Sio diet, quia folia
ejus,octo, angusta, stelliformio, radios calcaris satis
exacte referunt."
19. Mercury (Joose-foot. Probably a gooae-foot
resembling Mercury (Mercurialis), a herb con-
cerningwhich Skinner doubts, but suggests, " Quia
Mercurio, tit ceteree omnea plantEe pbinetis, appro-
priata sit." Another name is Good Henry, — I find
notOoodffing- Henry — (Lapatkum utictmium), "A
commodo ejus usu in enemalis." It is also called
All-good, forasmuch aa it is useful, not only for Its
roedicioal qualities, but also in supplying the table
with a substitute for other vegetables, such as
asparagus.
A plant termed in this country Gang Flower Is
tbe sam^ as Ro^rati^^ Flower, recalling the peram-
bulation of parishes on one of those days. There
is a vast fund of interesting matter in tliose old
names of wild flowers (mixed up, of course, with
much that is trifling) ; and I cordially agree with
your correspondent, that it is well worth a steady
efibrt to rescue the fast-fading traditions relating
to thent. It must be confessed, however, that the
obstacles in the way of tracing the original mean-
ing and supposed virtues, will in many instances
te found very great, arising principally from the
&nciful translations and corruptions which our
ancestors made of the old names. Take, for in-
stance, the following :
Loose Strife or Herb Willow, from Lt/timachia,
the original being undoubtedly a man's name,
Lyaimachua.
Ale-hoof (Hedera terrestris). Anglo-Saxon Al
hehdjian. " Herba it&-/xpti<rros, ad mi5(<}B osua effi-
cacissims."
Herb Ambrose has a Greek origin, finSporoi, and
ia not indebted to the saint of that name.
Corafrey or Cumfrey. " Herba vulnera confer-
nmdnam ;" good for joining the edges of a
wound. ■
Calathian Violets. Simply cupped violets, from
Brank Ursin (AcanOmt). " It, brancba, ungai»
Blood Strange ; properly. String. To stanch.
Bertram. A corruption oinipiBfor {Pyrethrum).
Spreusidany, Hair-strong, Sulphur Wort. Cor-
rupted from Peucedanum.
Pell-a-mountain, Wild Thyme. From Serpjfl'
lum montanum.
Faceless. From Phaseolus, dim. of Phoielus; s»
called from its shallop shape.
Stick-a-dove, French Lavender, From uroixir,
ffTDixifloi, Strechas; so called Irom the irregularity of
the petals.
Such instances might be multiplied to almost
There is, doubtleaa, a good deal of scattered in-
formation respecting old English wild (lowers to
be met with, not only in books, but also among
our rural population, stored up by village sages.
Contributions of this description would surely bo
welcome in "N. & Q." ^^ ^ ~
Rectory, Hereford.
I surely b
H. C. B
curious, and I believe rather scarce, pharmacopoeia
by Wm. Salmon, date 1693, I find some 414 pagei
devoted to their uaea. This pharmacopceia, or Coin,
pleat EagluK Phy^cian, was dedicateil to Mary,
second Queen of England, Scotland, France, Ire-
land, &c., and appears to have been the first. The
preface says " it was the first of that kind extant
in the world, a subject for which we have no pre-
cedent."
" I have not trusted," he says, "to the reports of
most things therein ; and it is nothing but what I
knov and have learnt bj daily eiperlence fur tliirtj
years together, so that my prescriptions may in some
measure plead a priiilege ahove the performances of
1. Capaella (Sursa pasioria) he describes as cold
1°, and dry in 2", binding and astringent. Good
against spitting of blood or bfcmorrhage of thfr
nose, and other fluxes of the bowels. The leaves,
of which 3j, in powder may be given. The juice
inspissate, drunk with mine, helps ague. A cata-
plasm applied in inflammations, Anthony's fire,
&C-, represses them.
2, Verotiica Chamadrys he calls Euphrasia,
Eupkrommee, and says it is much commended by
Arnoldus de Villa Nova, who asserts that it not
only helps dimness of tbe sight, but tbe use of it
Jttlt 9. 1853.] NOTES AND QUEUrES. 87
makea old men to read small letters without spec- 1659, in which he spells his nune with an e in-
tacles, who coutd scarcely read great letters with stead of a, which seems to have been altered to an
spectacles before ; but that it did restore their a by his son Jacob. ■
sight who had been a long tJnie blind. Truly a Li Vertummit it says Bobart's Horiiu Sicetu
most wonderful plant ; and, if be Ireely used it, wa» in twenty volumes ; but the Oxford Bolamo
must hare been a great drawback to spectacle- Garden (hade only mentions twdve ^uairto to-
makers. Inmes : which is correct, and where is it? In
3. Primida veria, he says, moreproperly belongs one of my copies of Vertummu, a scrap of paper is
to the primrose than cowslip. The root is hau- fixed to p. 29., and the following is written upon
matic, and helps paina in the back. The herb is it:
cephalic, neurotic, and artbritio. The juice or •■ The Hortus SImus here alluded to whs sold at the
essence, with spirits of wine, stops all manner of Rer. Mr. Hodgklaaon's ale at SarBden, to Mrs. De
fluxes, is excellent against palsy, gout, and pains, Salis, wife of Dr. De Salis.'
and dUwmpers of the nerves and joints. A cata- j, ^,^3^ pedigree of the family P
plasm of the juice, with rye mea^ is good against i„ ^ ^^^^^ ^^ g^^. Kay's to Mi. Aubrey is the
luxations and ruptures. JChe flowers are good foiicing ■
asainst palsr. numbness, convulsions, and cramps, _
biing gfven in a sulphurous or 9 saline Unctu!^e . "^ ""B'"^ **■"' Mr. Bobart hath been so d.hgent
or an oily tincture, or an essence of the juice with '" °''«""'K "^^ ■"«>""« » <»llect»>n of .osecu."
spirits ot wine. The juice of the flowers, or an Is there any coilecljon extant?
ointment of the ^ouier or its juice, cleanses the » He may give me much assbunce in my intended
skin from spots, though the worthy old physician SynopHs of our English Animals, and contribute much
only gives a receipt for making essence as follows : to the perfecting of it."
Beat the whole plant well in a mortar ; add to it -j-jjj he do so P
an equal quantity of brandy or spirits of wine ;- j^ ^^ .„^ ^j. ^[^ j ^^ b^j,^^^^ ^ j^^ g;.
dose up tight m alarge bolt-head, aod set 't to j^^^^^^j,^ ,
digest in a very gentle sand-beat for three mooths. y^^ j -^ . ^ ^j ^ Loggan
Stram out all the liquor, which close up ma bolt- 3,, g ^.^ J^ p ^ij^P , -^ ^ portrait of j!^b
head .^ain, and digest in a gentle sand-heat for g^t^j %^ „^ j^ q^j-^^ AlTnaiu^k for
two months more. Rather a troublesome and 1719. can I procure it? H.T.Bobaet.
slow process this. "^
4. Geum tirbanum he calla Caryopkyltata, Herba "
imedicta, and Geitm Plinii, and should be gathered, ■ hekaxhic qubbies.
be says, in the middle of March, for then it smells ^ . .. .^. .
sweetest, and is most aromatic. Hot and dry in" . . ''^"'' P ■*
the 2", binding, strengthening, dbcussive, cepba- Cetbep is informed, 1st, That a shield in the
lie, neurotic, and cardiac. Is a good preservative ''* form of a lozenge was appropriated exclusively to
against epidemic and contagious disease; helps ■( females, both spinsters and widows, in order to
digestion. The powder of the root, dose JJ. The Bdistinguish the sex of the bearer of a coat of arms,
decoction, in wine, stops spitting of blood, dose Jss m^^ '' "^^ doubtful origin, though supposed, from the
to 5JBs. The saline tincture opens all obstructions iS^orm, to symbolise the spindle with yarn wound
of the viscera, dose Jj to ^iij. ^'*"''"' '' ' of gf^d authority, and not of very modern
Should Enivbi wish to know the medical virtues fjdate. Many instances may be seen in I'uUer, in
of our wild plants, I have no doubt but that this the coata of arms appended to the dedications of
worthy old physician will tell him what virtues the various chapters of his Church History. In
they were considered to pogsesa in his day, at least sect, ii, book vi. p. 282. ed. 1655, he has separated
by himself; and I can assure him that 1195 of the the coats of man and wife, and placed them aide by
English Physician's pages ascribe marvellous pro-*«ide; that of the latter upon a lozenge- shaped
parties, not only to plants, but to anunals, fiah, and ^shield — Party per pale arg, and gules, two eagles
even the honea of a stag's heart. E, J. Shaw, diaplaved, counteruhanged.
K 2ndly, No one has a right to inscribe a motto
' : upon a garter or riband, except those dignified
JACOB BOBABT With one of the various orders of knighthood, For
„^ , „ i- \ ""y other person to do so, is a siUy assumption.
(Vol, vii., pp.428, 578.) jhe motto ahouldbe upon a scroll, either over the
I am exceedingly obliged for the information crest, or beneath the shield.
afforded by D&.E. F,Riubaui.t concerning the _ Srdly, I cannot find that it was ever the CQstom
Sobarts. Can he give me any more communication ■" this country for ecclesiastics to bear their pa-
Oncemiiu; them ? I am annous to learn all I can. temal coat on an oval or circular shield. For-
Ihave old Jacob Bobart's signature, bearing date Ridden, as they were, by the first council of Mas-
3S
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. IS
«on, Bingham, vi. 421., in the I/xcerptions of
Ec^bright, a.d. 740, Item 1^4., and the Consti-
tutions of Othobon^ a.d. 1268, can. 4^ to bear
jams for the purposes of warfare, it is a question
whether any below the episcopal order ought, in
strict right) to display any armorial ensigns at alL
Archbishops and bishops bear the arms of th^
aees impaled (as of their spouse) with their own
paternal coats ; the latter probably only in right of
their baronies. It is worthy of remark that, since
the Reformation, and consequent marriage of
bishops, there has been no official decision as to
the bearing the arms of their wives, nor has any
precedence been granted to the latter. H. C. K.
■ Rectory, Herrford.
DOOB-HEAD INSCRIPTIONS.
(Vol. vii., pp. 23. 190. 585.)
A few years ago I copied the following inscrip-
tion from over the door of the residence of a parish
priest at Cologne :
" Protege Deus parochiam banc propter
Te et S.S. tuum, sieut protexisti
Jerusalem propter Te et David servum
tuum. IV Reg. xx. 6.
A.D. 1787.**
From the gateway leading into the Villa
Borghese, just outside of the "rorta del Fopolo,"
At Rome, 1 copied the following :
" Villae Burghesise Pincianae
Custos haec edico.
QuisquLs es, si liber
legum compedes ne hie timeas.
Ite quo voles^ carpite quae voles,
Abite quando voles.
Exteris magis haec parantur
quam hero.
[ In aureo saeculo ubi cuncta aurea,
temporum securitas fecit
bene morato :
Hospiti ferreas leges prsefigere
herus vetat.
Sit hie pro amico, pro lege
honesta voluntas.
Verum si quis dolo malo, lubens, sciens
aureas urbanitatis leges fregerit.
Caveat ne sibi
Tesseram amicitiae subiratus villicus
advorsum frangat.*'
On the entrance into the Villa Medici are the
two following :
'* Aditurus hortos hospes, in
summo ut vides
coUe hortulorum consitos,
si forte quid
audes probare, scire debes
ho8 hero
herique amicis ease apertos
omnibus."
** Ingressurus hospes bosce quoa
ingeatibus
instruxit hortos sumptibus
suis Medices
Femandus expleare viseudo
licet:
atque his fruendo plura
Velle nondecet."
The following I copied from a gateway leadii
into a vineyard near the church of San £usebi
at Rome :
** Tria sunt mirabilia ;
Trinus et unus,
Deus et homo,
Virgo et mater."
Cetbe
CONSECRATED BOSES.
(Vol. vii., pp. 407. 480.)
I forward the accompanying observations on tl
origin of the Rosa d'Oro, in compliance with ti
request contained at page 480. of the 185th N
of " N. & Q.," in case they should not have con
under your observation. They are to be found i
Histoire de Lorraine^ par R. P. Dom. Calmel
Nancy, 1745.
<* Le troisieme monastdre fonde par les parens <
St Leon est PAbbaye de Volfenheim, a deux lieues (
Colmar, vers le Midi, et a deux lieues environs d'Ege
heim, chateau des Comtes de Dasbourg, aujourdiii
(1745) inhabite, mais bien remarquable par ces vast«
ruines, sur le sommet des montagnes qui dominent si
r Alsace.
** Volfenheim etoit un village considerable, a une liev
et demi de Colmar. On voie encore aujourd*hiii a uz
demi lieue de Sainte Croix dans les champs, T^glise qi
lui servoit autrefois de paroisse. L*abbaye ^toit
quelque distance de la, au lieu oii est aujourd'hui 1
bourg de Sainte Croix.
" Volfenheim ay ant ^toit [ Qu<sre, 6te] ruin^ par li
guerres, les habitans se sont insensiblanent ^tabli
autour de Tabbaye, ce qui a form^ un bon bourg, conn
sous le nom de Sainte Croix ; parceque Tabbaye ^toi
consacree sous cette invocation. Le Pape Leon IX
dans la BuUe qu*il donna a ce monast^re la premiei
annde de son pontificat, de J. C. 1049, nous appr^i
qu*il avoit ete fonde par son pere Hughes et sa m^
Heilioilgdis, et ses freres Gerard et Hugues, qui 6toiei
deja decedes ; il ajoute que ce lieu lui etoit tomb6 pi
droit de succession ; il le met sous la protection sp^uJ
du Saint Siege, en sorte que nulle personne, de qnetqu
qualite qu'elle solt, n'y exerce aucune autorit^, xnai
qu*il jouisse d*une pleine liberty, et que Tabbesse et Ic
religieuses puissent employer quelque eveque ils jugc
roient apropos pour les benedictions d'autels, et autre
fonctions qui regardent le tninist^re episcopal : que so
neveu, le Comte Henri Seigneur d'Egesbeim, en soi
la voile, et apr^s lui, I'aine des Seigneurs fl*£gesh«i
a perp6tuit&
*' Que si cette race vient a manquer, rabbesse at ]
convent choisiront quelque autre de la parool^ da ^
July 9. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIED
i»
seigneurs^ afiir que I'avoeatie ne soit pas de ]eur race^
«t qu'apres la mort de Koentza, qui en etoit abbesse,
ct k qui le Pape avoit donne Is bien^dlctioa abbatiale,
les religieuses choisissent de leur communaut^ ou
d^aiUeurs, celle qui leur paroitra la plus propre, re-
servant toujours au Pape le droit de la b6nir. £t en
Teconnaissance d'un privilege si singulier, I'abbesse
donnera tous les ans au Saint Si^ge une Rose d*Or du
poids de deux onces Romaines. £lle Penvoyera toute
faite, ou en envoyera la matiere prepar^e, de telle sorte
qu'elle soit rendue au Pape huit jours auparavant qu'il
la porte, c^est-a-dire, le Dimanebe de Careme, 06 Ton
ofaante k Tlntroite, * Oculi niei semper ad Dominum ;'
afin qu'il puisse benir au Dimanebe *■ Laetare/ qui est
le quatrieme du Careme. Telle est Torigiue de la
£ose d*Or, que le Pape benit encore aujourd'bui le
quatrieme Dimanebe de Careme, nomm^ ' Laetare,* et
qu'il envoye a quelque prince pour marque d'estime
et de bienveillance. Ce jour-la, la station se fait k
Sainte Croix de Jerusalem. Le Pape, accompague des
cardinaux, vetus de couleur de rose, marche en caval-
cade k I'eglise, tenant la Rose d'Or a la main. II la
porte, allant a I'autel, cbarg^ de baume et de mare. II
ia quitte au ' Coniiteor,' et la reprend apres ^Tlntroite.'
II en fait la Benediction, et apres I'Evangile, il monte
«n chaise et explique les proprietes de la rose. Apres
la Messe il retourne en cavalcade a son palais, ayant
toujours la Rose en main et la couronne sur la tete. On
appelle ce Dimanebe ' Pascba rosata,' ou ' Laetare.*
" Nous avons encore un sermon du Pape Inno-
cent III., compose en cette occasion, au commence-
ment du treizieme siecle. Le Pape Nicholas IV., en
1290, dans le denombremeot qu'il fait des 6glises
qui doivent des redevances a Teglise de Rome, met le
monastere de Sainte Croix, diocese de Basle, qui doit
cleux onces d'or pour la Rose d'Or, qui se benit au
Dimanebe Laetere, Jerusalem."
P. P. P.
NOTES ON SERPENTS.
O^ol. ii., p. 130. ; Vol. vi., p. 177. —Vol. iii., p. 490.;
Vol vi., pp. 42. 147.)
Loskiel, in his account of the Moravian missions
to the North American Indians *, tells us that, —
" The Indians are remarkably skilled in curing the
bite of venomous serpents, and have found a medicine
peculiarly adapted to the bite of each species. For
example, the leaf of the Rattlesnake-root {PoJygala
senega) is the most efficacious remedy against the bite
of this dreadful animal. God has mercifully granted
it to grow in the greatest plenty in all parts most in>
fested by the rattlesnake. It is very remarkable that
this herb acquires its greatest perfection just at the time
when the bite of these serpents is the most dangerous.
• . . • . Virginian Snake-root QAristolochia serpentaria)
* The title of this curious book is, Geschtchte der
itfiMMit der ewmgelUehen Bruder unter den Indianem in
Nvrdamerika, durch Georg H. Loskiel: Barby, 1789,
8 VOL, pp. 783. Latrobe's transUtion of this book was
puUiafaed LoDd. 1794.
chewed, makes also an excellent pouhice for woinkis o£
this sort. The tat of the serpent itself, rubbed
into the wound, is thought to be efficacious. Hicr
ilesh of the rattlesnake, dried and boiled to a broth, is
said to be more nourishing than that of the viper, and
of service in consumptions. Their gall is likewise used
as medicine." — P. 146.
Pigs are excepted from the dreadful effects of
their bite ; they will even atta^ and eat them. It
is said that, if a rattlesnake is irritated and cannot
be revejtged^ it bites itself, and dies iu a few hours:
** Wird dieses Thier zornig gemacht, und es kann
sich nicht rachen, so beiszt es sich selbst, und in wenig
Stunden ist es todt." — P. 113.*
** I have seen some of our Canadians eat these rattle-
snakes repeatedly. The flesh is very white, and they
assured roe had a delicious taste. Their manner of
dressing them is very simple Great caution,
however, is required in killing a snake for eating ; for
if the first blow fails, or only partially stuns him, he tn-
stantly bites himself in different parts of the bodg, which
thereby become poisoned^ and would prove fatal to any
person who should partake of it." — Cox's Adv. on the
Columbia River .• Lond. 1832, p. 74.
** Dr. Fordyce knew the black servant of an Indian
merchant in America, who was fond of soup made of
rattlesnakes, in which he always boiled the head along
with the rest of the animal, without any regard to the
poison." — Rees's Cyclopadia.
" There is a religious sect in Africa, not far from
Algiers, which eat the most venomous serpents alive /
and certainly, it is said, without extracting their fangs.
They declare they enjoy the privilege from their
founder. The creatures writhe and struggle between
their teeth ; but possibly, if they do bite them, the
bite is innocuous."
Mrs. Crowe, in the concluding chapter of her
Night-side of Nature^ gives the testimony of an
eye-witness to "the singular phenomenon to be
observed by placing a scorpion and a mouse to-
gether under a glass."
** It is known that stags renew their ape by eating
serpents; so the phoenix is restored by the nest of
spices she makes to bum in. The pelican hath the
same ^virtue, whose right foot, if it be put under hot
dung, after three months a pelican will be bred from
it. Wherefore some physicians, widi some confections
made of a viper and hellebore, and of .some of the flesh,
of these creatures, do promise to restore yotUh, and some-^
times they do if* f
On reading any of our old herbalists, one would
imagine that serpents (and those of the worst
kind) abounded in " M^rrie Englande," and that
they were the greatest bane of our lives. It ia
* This reminds one of the notion respecting
" The scorpion girt with fire,"
immortalised by Lord Byron's famous simil^
t Eighteen Books of the Secrets of Art and Nature ;
being the Summe and Substance of NaturaU Philosophy
methodicalfy digested : London, 1661.
40
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 193^
hard to stumble on a plant that is not an antidote
to the bite of serpents. Our old herbals were com-
piled, however, almost entirely from the writings
of the ancients, and from foreign sources. The
ancients had a curious notion relative to the plant
Basil (Oscimum baailicum)^ viz., **That there is a
property in Basil to propagate scorpions, and that
oy the smell thereof they are bred in the brains of
men." Others deny this wonderful property, and
make Basil a simple antidote*
** According unto Oribasiui, phynloian unto Julian,
th« Africani, men best experienced in poiiont, affirm,
whoAoever hath eaten Basil, although he be stung with
A scorpion, shall feel no pain thereby, which is a very
different eflbot, and rather antidotally destroying than
seminally promoting its production." — Sir Tliomas
Browne, Vulgar Errort,
An old writer gives the following anecdote in
point :
** Francis Marcio, an eminent statesman of Genoa,
having sent an ambassador from that republic to the
Duke of Milan, when he could neither procure an
audience of leave from that prince, nor yet prevail
with him to ratify his promises made to the Genoese,
taking a fit opportunity, presented a handful of the
herb Basil to the duke. The duke, somewhat sur-
prised, asked what that meant ? * Sir,' replied the am-
bassador, ' this herb is of that nature, that if vou handle
it gentlv without squeezing, it will emit a pleasant and
grateful scent ; but if you squeeze and gripe it, 'twill
not only lose its colour, but It will becottu productive of
icorpionn in a little time."— 2%« Enttrtaintr : London,
1717, p. 23.
Pliny tells us that a decoction fVom the leaves
of the ash tree, given as a drink, is such a remedy
that ^* nothing so sovoraignc can be found against
the poison of^erpents ;*' and farther :
'* That a terpent dare not come neare the thaddow of that
tree. The serpent will chuse rather to goe into the
fire than to flie from it to the leaves of the ash. A
wonderful goodnesse of Dame Nature, that the ash
doth bloome and flourish alwaies before that serpents
oome abroad, and never sheddeth leaves, but oontinueth
green untill they bo retired into their holes, and hidden
within the ground."
The ancient opinion respecting the rooted anti-
pathy between the ash and the serpent is not to
De exniained merely by the fact in natural history
of its being an antidote, but it has a deeply myth-
ical meaning. See, in the Proae JSdda^ the account
of the ash Yggdrasill, and the serpents gnawing its
roots. Loskiel corroborates Pliny as to the ash
being an antidote :
*' A decoction of the buds or bark of the white ash
(Fraxinut Carolina) taken inwardly is said to be a cer-
tain remedy against the effects of poison," i*e, of the
rattlesnake.
Serpents afford Pliny a theme for inexhaustible
wonders. The strangest of his relation! perhaps
is where he tells us that serpents, **when the^
have stung or bitten a man, die for very greefe
and sorrow that they have done such a mischeefe.**
He makes a special exception, however, of the
murderous salamander, who has no such ** pricke
and remorse of conscience,** but would ** destroy ^
Ti^hole nations at one time,*' if not prevented. In
this same book (xxix.) he gives a receipt for
making the famous theriacum^ or treacle, of vipers*
flesh. Another strange notion of the ancients waa
**that the marrow of a man*s backe bone will breed
to a snake ** (Hitt, Nat<, x. 66.). This perhapt,.
originally, had a mystic meaning; for a ^eat pro-
portion of the innumerable serpent stories have a
deeper foundation than a credulous fancy or lively
imagination.
Take, for instance, the wide-spread legend of
the sea-serpent. Mr. Deane says, —
*' The superstition of *the serpent in the sea' was
known to the Chinese, as we observed in the chapter
on the * Serpent-worship of China.' But it was doubt-
less, at one time, a very general superstition among th(»
heathens, for we find it mentioned by Isaiah, ch. xxvii.
1., ' In that day the Lord, with his sore and great and
strong sword, shall punish Leviathan the piercing ser-
pent, even Leviathan that crooked serpent : and Ua
shall slay the dragon that ie in the eea* "
In Blackwood's Magazine^ vol. ii. p. 645., vol. ir.
pp. 33. 205., may be found some interesting papers #
on the " Scrakin, or Great Sea Serpent.'*
Mr. Deane*s Worship of the Serpent (London,
1830), and The Cross and the Serpent^ by the Rev,
Wm. Haslam (London, 1849), are noble works
both of them, and ought to be in the hands of
every Christian scholar. In these two words,
" Cross '* and " Serpent,'* we have an epitome of
the history of the world and the human race, at
well as the ground-work for all our hopes and
fears. In them are bound up the highest mys-
teries, the truest symbolism, the deepest realitiei,
and our nearest and dearest interests.
Lord Bacon thus narrates the classical fablo
which accounts for the Berpent*s being gifted with
the power of restoring youth :
** The gods, in a merry mood, granted unto men not
only the use of fire, but perpetual youth also, a boon
most acceptable and desirable. They being os it wera
overjoyed, did foolishly lay this gifl ot the gods upon
the back of an ass, who, being wonderfully oppressed
with thirst and near a fountain, was told by a serpent
^which had the custody thereof) that he should not
drink unless he would promise to give him the burthen
that was on his back. The silly nss accepted the con-
dition, and so the re$toration nf youth (eoldfor a draught
of water) paeaed from men to terpentt,** "^ The IViedom tf
the Ancientt (Prometheus, xxvi.).
That this, as well as the whole of the legend re-
lating to Prometheus, is a confused account of an
early tradition relative to the Fall of Man, and
his forfeiture of immortality, is obvious to any
JUhY ti. \HiV,U]
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NOTES AND QUEBIEa
[No. IB
Sthl J. In hii paper process, does not tlie ROaking
in water aiW iodizing merelj take airBj a portion
of iodide* of Bilver and potassium from tbe paper ;
or, if not, what end ii answered bj it f W. F. E.
Bath) for the CoOodion iVocen— HaTmg latelj
been awured, b; a gentleman of scientific atiain-
mentg, that tiie gensidTcaess of the prepared col-
lodioQ plate dependt rather upon the strength of
the nitrate of silver bath than on the collodion,
I am desirooB of asking how far the experience of
^nr correspondents confirms this statement. Mj
informant sasured me, that if, instead of nung a
■olntion of thirty grains of nitrate of silTcr to the
ounce of water for the bath, which is the propor-
tion recommended bj Meitsrs. Archer, Home,
Delamotle^ Diamond, &c., a sixty grain solution
be substituted, the formation of the image would
be the work of the fraction of a secoud. This
seems to me so important as to deserve being
brooght under the notice of photographers — espe-
ciallj at this busj season — without a moment's
delay,- and I therefore record the statement at
once, as, from circumstaoces with which I need
cot encamber jour pages, I shall not have an
(^portunity of trying anj experiments upon the
point for a week or two.
Upon referring to the authorities on the sub-
ject of the best solntion for baths, I have been
struck with their nniformitj. One exception only
bas presented itself, which is in a valuable pnper by
Mr. Thomas in the 6th Number of the Journal of
the Photographic Society. That gentleman directs
the bath to be prepared in the following manner ;
Into a 20 oz. stoppered bottle, put —
Nitrate of silver • - 1 oz.
Distilled water • - 10 ox.
Dissolve.
Diasolve.
On mixing these two solutions, a precipitate of
iodide of silver is formed. Place the bottle con-
tuning this mixture in a saucepan of hot water,
keep it on the hob for about twelve hours, shake
it occasionallj, now and then removing the stop-
per. The bath is now perfectly saturated with
iodide of silver ; when cold, filter through white
filtering paper, end add —
Alcohol - - - 2 drs.
Sulphuric ether - - 1 dr.
The prepared glass is to remain in the bath about
dght or ten minutes. Now, is this bath appli-
cable to all collodion, or only to that prepared by
Mr. Thomas ; and if the former, what is the ra-
tionale of its beneficial action P A Beqibiieb.
SfpTM to ^fnoT AurrfnC
Mitigation of Capital Pamihment to a Ftm
Toh viL, p. 573.). — If jonr correi^iondBI
k. B. C. redlj wishes to be releoeed from U
hard work in hunting i^ the trnth of mj a
other narratives of the mitigatian of ei^ntaijm
aithntnt to forgers, I shall be happy to recove i
note ftom him with his name and addrese, wheai
will give him the name and address of mj m
funnant in return. Bj this means I may be aU
to relieve his shoulder from a portion of it
burden, and mjself from any farther imputatkn
of " mythic accompaniments, ' Inc., which are n
palatable phrases even when coming from a gen
tleman who only discloses his initials.
AlfSED Gatti
EcclesGeld.
Chroiu^ramt (Vol. Tt p. S85.) and Atu^rat
(Vol. iv., p. 226 ). — Though we Kbtb ceased I
practise these " literary follies," they are not wifl
out interest ; and you will perhaps tbink it woH
while to add the following to your list :
has no date on the title-pase, the real date i
1652 being supplied by the cbroDOgram, which
a better one than most of those quoted in "N. .
Q.," inasmuch as all the numerical letters are en
ployed, and it is consequentiy not dependent a
the typ(^aphy.
James Howell concludes his Parly of BeaMtl 1
follows :
" Gloria lausque Deo sxCLorVM in siecVIa aimbi.
A GliTonognminaticall vene which include* not cad
this year, 1660, but batli numericall letters enow [i
illustration, by tlie way, offnoiB as eiprenive of nim
ber] to reach above a thousand years fartber, untill tt
year 2867."
Query, How is this made out P And are tha
any other letters employed as numerical than tl
M, D, C, L, V, and I ? If not, I can only mal
Howell's chronogram equivalent to 1927.
The same author, in his Qerman Diet, after na
rating the death of Charles, son of Fbilip XL i
Spain, says :
" If you de»ii» to know the yeer, this chnuiagTa
will tell you :
riLIVs ante DIeM patrlos InqVIrlt In annas,"
AUgtul (Vol. iv., p. 424. ; VoL v., pp. 38. &
450.). — Can it be shown that this word was i
general nse, as meaning a " lady's maid," befoi
thetimeof Queen Anne. It probably was so usee
Jult9. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
43
but I hav« always thought it likelj that it became
knuch more extensivelj employed, after Abigail
Hill, Lady Masham, became the favourite of Uiat
3ueen. She was, I believe, a poor cousin of Sarah
ennings. Duchess of Marlborough, and early in
life was employed by her in the humble capacity
of lady*s maid. After she had supplanted the
haughty duchess, it is not unlikely that the Whigs
would take a malicious pleasure in keeping alive
the recollection of the early fortunes ot the Tory
favourite, and that they would be unwilling to
lose the opportunity of speaking of a lady*s maid
as an;^thing else but an " Abigail." Swift, how-
ever, in hb use of the word, could have no such
design, as he was on the best of terms with the
Mashams, of whose party he was the very life and
80U1. H. T. BiLET.
Burial in uncoTtsecrated Oround (Vol. vi., p. 448.).
—Susanna, the wife of Philip Carteret Webb, Esq.,
of Busbridge, in Surrey, died at Bath in March,
1756, and was, at her own desire, buried with
two of her children in a cave in the grounds at
Busbridge ; it being excavated by a company of
soldiers then quartered at Guildford. Their re-
mains were afterwards disinterred, and buried in
Godalming Church. H. T. Rilbt.
« Cob'' and " Conners'' (Vol. vii., pp. 234. 321.).
Kr— These names are not synonymous, nor are they
Irish words. It is the pier at Lyme Regis, and
not the harbour, which bears the name of the Cob,
In the ** Y Gododin" of Aneurin, a British poem
supposed to have been written in the sixth century,
the now obsolete word chynnivr occurs in the
seventy-sixth stanza. In a recent translation of this
poem, by the Rev. John Williams Ab Ithel, M.A.,
this word is rendered, apparently for the sake of the
metre, "shore of the sea." The explanation given
in a foot-note is, " Harbour cynivr from cyn dicfr.**
On the shore of the estuary of the Dee, between
Chester and Flint, on the Welsh side of the river,
there is a place called " Connah's Quay." It is
probable that the ancient orthography of the name
-was Conner,
Goby I think, is also a British word, — cop, a
mound. All the ancient earth-works which bear
this name, of which I have knowledge, are of a
circular form, except a long embankment Cfdled
The Cop, which has been raised on the race-course
At Chester, to protect it from the land-floods and
spring-tides of the river Dee. JST. W. S, (2.)
CoHeri^e's Unpublished MSS, (Vol. iv., p. 41 1. ;
Vol. vi., p. 533.). — Thbophilact, at the first re-
ference, mquired whether we are " ever likely to
receive from any member of Coleridffe*8 family, or
£x»m his friend Mr. J. H. Green, the fragments,
if not the entire work, of his Logowphiar Agree-
11^ with your correspondent, that *'we can ill
anord to lose a work the conception of which en-
grossed much of his thoughts," I repeated the
Query in another form, at the second reference
(«tfpra), grounding it upon an assurance of Sara
Coleridge, in her mtroduction to the Biographia
Literarioj that the fragment on Ideas would here-
after appear, as a sequel to the Aids to Reflection^
Whether this fragment be identical with the Logo*
sophiOf or, as I suspect, a distinct essay, certain it
is that nothing of the kind has ever been published.
From an mteresting conversation I had with
Dr. Green in a railway carriage, on our return
from the Commemoration at Oxford, I learned
that he has in his possession, (1.) A complete sec-
tion of a work on Tlie Philosophy of Nature^
which he took down from the mouth of Coleridge^
filling a large volume ; (2.) A complete treatise
on jS>gic; and ^3.) If I did not mistake, a frag-
ment on Idea9, The reason Dr. Green assigns for
their not having been published, is, that they con-
tain nothing but what has already seen the light
in the Aids to Reflection, The Theory of Life, and
the Treatise on Method, This appears to me a
very inadequate reason for withholding them from
the press. That the works would pay, there can
be no doubt. Besides the editing of these MSS.>
who is so well qualified as Dr. Green to give us a
good biography of Coleridge ?
C. Mansfieij) Ingl£bt»
Birmingham.
Setting a Wife (Vol. vii., p.602.).— A case of
selling a wife actually and bond fide happened in
the provincial town in which I reside, about
eighteen years ago. A man publicly sold his wife
at the market cross for 161, : the buyer carried her
away with him some seven miles off, and she lived
with him till his death. The seller and the buyer
are both now dead, but the woman is alive, and is
married to a third (or a second) husband. The
legality of the transaction has, I believe, some
chance of beins tried, as she now claims some
Eroperty belongmg to her first husband (the seller),
er ri^t to which is questioned in consequence of
her supposed alienation by sale ; and I am mformed
that a lawyer has been applied to in the case. Of
course there can be little doubt as to the result.
Sc.
Life (Vol. vii., pp. 429. 608.).— Compare with
the fines quoted by your correspondents those of
Moore, entitled " My Birthday," the four follow-
ing especially :
** Vain was the man, and false as v^n,
Who said*, * Were he ordain'd to run
His long career of life again.
He would do all that he had done.' **
Many a man would gladly live his life orer
again, were he allowed to bring to bear on his
* Fontenelle.
44
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 198i
geoond life the experience ho had acquired in that
past. For in the grave there is no room, either
for ambition or repentance ; and the degree of our
happiness or misery for eternity is proportioned to
the state of preparation or unpreparation in which
we leave thts world* Instead of many a man, I
might have said most good men ; and of the others,
all who have not passed the rubicon of hope and
grace. The vista of the past, however, appears a
long and dreary retrospect, and any future is
bailed as a relief: yet on second and deeper thought,
we would mount again the rugged hill of life, and
try for a brighter prospect, a higher eminence.
Jaeltzdsbo.
" Immo Deui mlhl li dedorit ronovare JuYontam»
Ucve itsrum in ounis posilm vagirfi t rooui«m."
Itaao Ha^vkins Browna, Dt Animl Immot'
tatilattf lib. i., near tho «nd.
(See Selecta Poemata Anglorum Latina. iii. 251.)
F. W. J.
passage of Thucydiden on the Oreek Factiom
(Vol. vii., p. 594.). — The passage alluded to by
Sir a. Alison appears to oe the celebrated de-
scription of the moral efiects produced by the con-
flicts of tho Greek factions, which is subjoined to
the account of the Corcyrasan sedition, iii. 82.
The quotation must, however, have been made
fVom memory, and it is ampliflod and expanded
from the original. The words adverted to aeem
to be:
Thucydides, however, proceeds to say that the
cunning which enabled a man to plot with success
against an enemy, or still more to discover his
hostile purposes, was highly esteemed. L.
Archbishop King (Vol. vii., p. 430.). — A few
da^s since I met with the following passage in a
brief sketch of Kane O^tlara, in tho last number
of the Irish Quarterly Review :
*' In the extramely meagre publishsd notices of
0*Hara (the celebrated burletta writer), no referenoo
has been made to hid skill at an artist, of which wo
have a specimen in his etching of Dr. William Kingi
archbishop of Dublin, in a wig and cap, ot which por-
trait a copy has been made by Richardson.'*
This extract is taken from one of a very in- quotation,
teresting series of papers upon ** The Streets of
Dublin. Abhba.
their name for a bookbinder is fforelufr^ literallyi
one who covers books. I may mention another
Devonianism. The cover of a book is called its
healing, A man who lays slates on the roof of A
house is,, in Devonshire, called a hellier*
« N. W. S. (2.)
Perseverant^ Perseverance (Vol. vii., p. 400.). —
Can Mr. AftaowsMiTH supply any instances of the
verb persever (or perceyuer^ as it is spelt in tho
1555 edition of Hawes, M. i. col. 2.), from any
other author? and will he inform us when thit
** abortive hog ** and his litter became extinct.
In explaining speare (so strangely misunder*
stood by the editor of Dodsley), he should, I
think, have added, that it was an old way of
writing spar. In Shakspeare's Prologue to Troilui
and Cressida^ it is written sperr. Sparred^ quoted
by Richardson from the Romance of the Rose^ and
Troiltu and Creseide^ is in the edition of Chaucer
referred to bv Tyrwhitt, written in the Romance
" ipered," antl in Troilus " sperred." Q.
Bloomshury.
" The Good Old Cause'* (Vol. vi., passim), —
Mrs. Behn, who gained some notoriety for her
licentious writings even in Charles It.*s days, wat
the author of a play called 7'he Roundheads^ or the
Good Old Cause : London, 1082. In the Epilogjua
she puts into the mouth of the Puritans tne foU ^
lowing lines respecting the Royalists : ^p
** Yet then they raird against The Good Old Cautt t
RaiPd fooliiihty for loyalty and laws t
But when the Saints had put them to a stand,
We left them loyalty, and took their land :
Yea, and the pious work of Ueformation
Rewarded was with plunder and sequestration.**
The following lines are quoted by Mr. Teale in
his L^fe qf Viscount Falkland^ p. 131. :
** The wealthiest man among us is the best i
No grandeur now in Nature or in book
Delights us— repose, avarice, expense,
This is the idolatry ; and these we adore :
Plain living and high thinking are no morei
Tho homely beauty of The Good Old Caute
Is gone I our peace and fearful innocence,
And pure religion breathing household laws.**
Whence did Mr. Teale get these lines f Either
The Oood Old Cause is here used in a peculiar
sense, or Mr. Teale makes an unhappy use of tho
lABLTKtUBma.
Devonianisms (Vol. vii., p. 544.). — Pl7m, For*
rell, — Pillom is the full word, of which pilm is a
contraction. It appears to have been derived
fVom the British word pylor^ dust. Forell is an
archaic name for the cover of a book. The Welsh
appear to have adopted it firom the English, oi
Saying of Pascal (Vol. vii., p. 596.). — In reply
to the question of W. FttAssa, I would refer him
to PasoaKs sixteenth Provincial Letter, where, in
the last paragraph but one, we read, —
•* Mas r^v4rends p^res, mes lettres n'avalent pas ae«
ooutum^ de sa suivre de si pr^t, ni d'etre si tftendues*
Le pen d$ temps que fat en a 4t4 eauee rfs Vuh et d»
Cautre, Je n*ai fkit celte^ci plwt lonyue que pareequs Je
JULT 9. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
R.E.T.
Painl taken off of old Oak (Vol. vii., p. 620.).—
About twen^-Bis years ago, by tbe adoption of a
very gimplo process recommended by iJr, Woi-
laston, the pant was entirely removed from tha
screen of carved oak which fills the north end of
the great hall at Audlev End, and the wood re-
assumed its original colour and brillispcy. The
result was brought about bjr the application of
soft-soap, lud on of the thickness of a shilling
over the whole surface of the oak, and allowed to
remain there two or three days ; at the end of
which it was washed off with plenty of cold water.
I am aware that potash has been ollen tried with
success for the same purpose; but, in many in-
stances, unless it is. used with due caution, the
wood becomes of a darker hue, and has the ap-
pearance of having been charred. It is worthy
of remark, that Dr. Wotiaston made the suggestion
with great diffidence, not having, as he said, hud
any practical experience of the effect of such an
BpplicatioQ. Bbaybbookb.
Fatiage in fke " Temoeit" (Vol. ii., pp. 259. 399.
337. 429.).— As a parallel to the expression "most
busy least" (meaning "least busy emphatically),
I would surest the common expression of the
Uorthumbrians, " Far over near " (signifying
"much too near"). H. T. Bu.Br.
nOTBS OK BOOBS, BTC.
The Committee appointed by the Society of Anti-
quaries to comider what improvemerla could be intro-
duced into its management, has at length isaued a
Bepott; and we are glad to Gud that the allerationa
suggested by tbem have been frankly adopted by the
CounciL The piiticipal changes proposed refer to the
election of the Council ; the haying but one Secretary,
who is not to be a metnbet of that body i the appoint-
ment of Local Secretaries ; the retirement annually of
the Senior Vice-President ; and lastly, that which more
than anything else must operate for the future benefit
(^ the Society, the appointment of ■ third Standing
Committee, to be called The Executive Cainmiltet, whose
duty shall be " to superintend the corcespondence of
the Society on all subjects relating to literature and
antiquities, to direct any antiquarian operations or ei-
cavations carried on by the Society, to examine all
papers sent for reading, all objects sent for exhibition,
and to assist the Director generally in taking care that
the publications of the Society are consistent with its
position and importance." It is easy to see that if a
proper selectiati be made of the Fellows to serve on
this Committee, their activity, and the renewed interest
which will be thereby awakened in the proceedings of
and papers for reading, worthy of the body — and there-
fore unlike many which we have too frequently heard,
and to wbich, but for the undeserved imputation which
weshouldieem to cast upon our good friend Sir Henry
Ellis, might be applied, with a slight alteration, that
couplet of Matbias which t«lls —
>■ How o'er the bulk of these tnauacltd deeds
Sir Henry pants, and d ns 'era as be reads."
We have now little doubt that better days are in store
for the Society of Antiquaries.
The Annual Meeting of the Archeological Institute
commences at Chichester on Tuesday next, under the
patronage of the Dukes of Norfolk and Richmond, and
the Bishop of Chichester, and the Presidentship of Lord
Talbot de Malahide. There is a good hill of fare pro-
vided in the shape of Lectures on the Cathedral, by
Professor Willis i excursions to Boigrove Priory,
Halnaker, Godivood, Cowdray, Petwortb, Pevensey,
Amberley, Sboreliam, Lewes, and Arundel ; excava-
tions on Bow Hill i Meetings of the Sections of His-
tory, Antiquities, and Architecture; and, what wo
think will be one of the pleasantest features of the
programme, the Annjial Meeting of the Sussei Archa.
ological Society, in tbe proceedings of which the
Members of ihe Institute are invited to participale.
Books RECicrvED. — A Gloagary of Pr&pincialiama lit
Un in tht Counly of Sunex, by W, Durrant Cooper,
ieamd uUtion : a small but very valuable addition to
our provincial glossaries, with an introduction well
worth the reading. We shall be surprised if the meet-
ing of the Institute this year in Suasei does not fur-
nish Mr. Cooper with materials for a third and
enlarged edition The TrawUeri Library, No. «„
A Tout on the Constant bij Raii and Road, by John
Sarrow : a brief itinerary of dates and distances, show.-
ing what may be done in a two months' visit to the
Continent — - No. 45. Smiit Men and SwUe Mountaint,
by Hobert Ferguson : a very graphic and well-written
narratife of a tour in Switzerland, which deserves a
comer in the knapsack of the " intending" traveller.—
The Enagt, or Coanteli Civil and Moral, by J='rancit
Baam, I^mbb* St. Alban, edited by Thomas Markby:
a cheap edition of this valuable " handbook for think-
ing men," produced by the ready sale which has at-
tended The Adamctmenl of Learning by the same
editor— Sepnard the Fox, ajier Ihe Gernum Feriionof
auihe, with Illustrations by J. Wolf, Part VII., in
wbich the translator carries on the story to T^e Ouf-
lavry in well-tuned verse. — Cgcioptedia Bibliographica,
PartX. Tbiatenth Part concludes the drst half of Ihe
volume of authors and their works ; and the punc-
tuality with which the Parts have succeeded each other
is a soflicient pledge that we shall see this most useful
library companion completed in a satisfactory manner.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
m. Editnt itj ijtjiva. 1S04.
bason uhI SleeveDi't edltloD,
Vt. lima. London. ISSS. (Two Copln.)
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
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Ti DiT Lnun Di> HoLwn. Bult.lStl.
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neuoftnaviti unil Jorvtard kit addr
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V. N. (lUla). IK. Wi m injormat tf Di. DuHfurp MM
c ,., paper, in Ul kanit ki kai fotatd na errtainln lit «*
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C E. F. (Jonfi 13tfl). TV ipati In Ike tpeeimen lent iSrpfn£
Emiantr tnbitancei in tour collodion moe reeeiftmg tke artloit
■gk a prepared plate after it not been intke tnl'ote balk, and
prrtlaaiitt IB kt ewer karing been In Ike camera. Tkrg aiaji be iodida
or iodaU Hi Bluer, or imall rryilalt i^ nitrate iif paaik. if IM
Iteoaumafeellodieni or if ikt latter, il trniiU depenS npam a
dtfttllH ttdiklng iif Ike gnn caiun it trkKk all ite toMbli talu
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to dratp ifonr idlmlion lo Ike pructtt gioen bg Ul. Pollock j IM
kiHH teen matt talitfaeiorp piituret prcdmccdbp il.
- ■■ - (aollbaU}. Tke-fiiMfd-^apptaramitmUeh
, and one paint ixktb'Inig
negalitet Ike idea tkal Ike i
^feiueampleletelt liT " NOTU tm> Qirnin," Vol.. 1. tori.,
j2^^»r«Uj™M, magntm, be kad i fin- vkiek carlptpplt-
- HOTB km Qmaiu ■■ a pabOiked at napm on Prldap. at Ikat
tke C«iattry BaokieUen ntaif receive Copiei intkat nigki't paredt^
WEUROTONICS, or the Art of
C PECTACLE8. — WM. ACK-
HlTH^i OptDEbTtn, ID (be pfflrcl ion of ^HcUckt
ACHROMATIC TELE-
.iJff
WANT
LADIBigri
i>itBs«Kriti>r«ii«twoaii^7^'^'°'^^^ BBsnmr, vaiah. Clock, ud tiBnu
«lb«j|j»»in«^lllini, na lite >111 In MikBtaUuBsnlObHrrUiiiT Uw Bh
iMftwment lb. ba- woA. ;Mr lanriiiillr wnimn 1 . »• i^iliiltt. ua tM (tan.
ANTED, for the UAin' In-
mi. ACXLAKD.
1 Jm-T 9. 1853.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
aPHOTOOBAPHlC PIC-
aiw tx nxB U BLAND ■ LONG'S, lU. FltM
iftjs"ffiifcr — ' —
BLiSD > LONG, OgHdlull, FUlHOiiUist
ssassss
T. OmtwmL (ftom Honw » Co.
MrtnmKtflillT >°^ ■'>' uaoUon •
MmriaTitr of hU bcwIt nriMnoDO
SpIES'rOLDINO t/3tKllAe. po
^dlm Cuncn.vHh tin pgrliitdUtr *
Tmlnm DfUie FuidjDi Hud.
£tqj dacrlffUon Df A^ipuAtui to on
5HOTOGRAPBT. — HORNE
Jut DQbUilitd. vriH II., tne br FoN 1j. td.,
fTHE WAXED-PAPER PHO-
!«»' mik*. W«nd-Piper for La Cnj-t
Tngw. iDdbnlmiulAiiiiUiTaPkparliiiimT
kind of niotofniihj.
Bold br JOHN jAMFORD, PhclfiawtiMa
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Ko.
MURRAY'S
RAILWAY READING.
^niii Dar. Dffw mnd
ANCIENT SPANISH BAL-
rPHE GARDENERS'
Edmoa, pnl Biui., (Tha RortinltDnl
^mriii liT lh> SEV. H. BBOWin,
d edltcdbr tbi RET. T. K. ARMtHS
Lc lt«cl« of Lmdnk. and fivm^t
A MONTH IN NORWAY.
The Bjxma YalDiDH of Mamr'i BtSlwij
LIFE OF LORD BACON.
FALL OF JERUSALEM. By
STORY OF JOAN OF ARC
LITERARY ESSAYS AND
CHABACTEIta. Bt UBNKY IIAU.AH.
LIFE OP THEODORE
THE EMIGRANT. Bj SIR
CHARACTER OF WEL-
LUHITON. BjIMaDELLESVERE.
MUSIC AND DRESS. By i
THE ART OF DINING.
JOURNEY TO HEPAUL.
By LAURENCE OUPBANT.
THE CHACE, TURF, AND
BOAD. BiNIUftOD.
HISTORY, AS_A_CONDI-
TvUTCH LANGUAGE.— Wer-
.n... DkitiDnKr. isit <nib1li1ied
BEES AND FLOWERS. By
KCLBHQYUAjr.
"THE FORTY-FIVE." By
ESSAYS FROM "THE
DEEDS of NAVAL DARING.
ARGH^OLOeiGAL INSTITUTE
ereat Krftafn aiiti IrcUnlf.
UEETINO. omen WTES,
THE MEDEA of EUBIPU
[ETER ARNOLD,
1. EURIPIDIS RACC
3t._HIPP0LlrTDB, «. —HECUBA,
2. SOPHOCLIS (ED)
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THE GARDENERS' CHRO-
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NOTES AND QUERIES:
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CONTENTS.
Notes : — Page
Deprivation of the Word " Island " - - - 49
Weather Rules, by Edward Peacock - - - 50
On the modern Practice or assuming Arms - - 50
Morlee and Lovel, by L. B. Larking • • - 51
Shakspeare Correspondence, by Robert Rawlinson and
John Macray • - - - - * 51
Unpublished Letter . - . - - 53
Minor Notes : — Lines on the Institution of the Order
of the Garter— Old Ship— The Letter "h " in "hum-
ble"—"The Angels' Whisper " — Pronunciation of
Coke — The Advice supposed to have been given to
Julius III. - - - - - - 63
Queries : — i
Bishop Gardiner " De Vera ObedientiA *'
- 54
IVIiNOR Queries: —Lord Byron — Curious Custom of
ringing Bells for the Dead — Unpublished Eiisay by
Lamb — Peculiar Ornament in Crosthwaite Church —
Cromwell's Portrait — Governor Brooks — Old Books
— The Privileges of the See of Canterbury — Heraldic
Colour pertaining to Ireland — Descendants of Judas
Iscariot — Parish Clerks and Politics — " Virgin Wife
and widowed Maid "— ** Cutting off the little Heads of
Light "i^Medal of Sir Robert Walpole— La Fete des
Chaudrons — Who first thought of Table-turning ? —
College Guide ...... 55
Minor Queries with Answers : — Done Pedigree —
Scotch Newspapers, &c. — Dictum de Kenilworth —
Dr. Harwood . . . - - -57
Replies : —
Names of Places, by J. J. A. Worsaae . . - 58
Cleaning old Oak, by Henry Herbert Hele, &c. . ■ . 58
Burial in an Erect Posture, by Cuthbert Bede, B.A. • 59
Lawyers' Bags . . . . > .59
Photographic Correspondbmcb:— New Photographic
Process .......60
Bbplies to Minor Queries : — The Ring Finger —
The Order of St. John of Jerusalem— Calvin's Cor-
respondence — Old Booty's Case — Chatterton ^
House-marks, Sec Bibliography. — Parochial Li-
braries — Faithful Teate — Lack-a-daisy — Bacon —
Angel-beast : Cleek : Longtriloo— Hans Krauwinckel
— Revolving Toy — Rub-a-dub — Muffs worn by
Gentlemen — Detached Church Towers— Christian
Names — Hogarth's Pictures — Old Fogie — Clem —
Kissing Hands —Uniform of the Foot Guards — Book
Inscriptions — Humbug — Sir Isaac Newton and
Voltaire on Railway Travelling — Engine-^- verge —
*' Populus vult decipi," &c. — Sir John Vanbrugh —
Erroneous Forms of Speech — Devonianisms . 61
Miscellaneous : —
Books and Odd Volumes wanted - . • •
Notices to Correspondents . • . .
Advertisemeuts , . . - . •
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VoL.VnL— No. 194.
DERIVATION OF THE WORD "ISLAND."
Lexicographers from time to time have handed
down to us, and proposed for our choice, two
derivations of our English word Island ; and, that
one of these two is correct, has, I believe, never yet
been called in question. The first which they
offer, and that most usually accepted as the true
one, is the A.-S. Ealand, JEalond, Igland ; Belg.
Eylandt : the first syllable of which, they inform
US, is ea, Low Germ, awe, water, i. e, water-landj
or land surrounded by water. If this etymon be
deemed unsatisfactory, they offer the following:
from the Fr. isle, It. isola, Lat. insrda^ the word
island, they say, is easily deflected.
At the risk of being thought presumptuous, I
do not hesitate to say, that both these alternatives
are manifestly erroneous ; and, for the following
reasons, I propose a third source, which seems to
carry conviction with it : first, from analogy ; and
secondly, from the usage of the language from
which our English word is undoubtedly derived,
the Anglo-Saxon.
First, from analogy. Let us only consider how
frequently names are given to parts of our hills,
shores, rivers, &c., from their supposed resem-
blance to parts of the human body. Thus, for
instance, we have a head land, a neck of land, a
tongue of land, a nose of land (as in Ness, in Or-
fordness, Dungeness, and, on the opposite coast,
Grinez) ; also a mouth of a river or harbour, a
brow of a hill, haxik or chine of a \x\\\foot of a hill ;
an arm of the sea, sinus or bosom of the sea. With
these examples, and many more like them, before
us, why should we ignore an eye of land as un-
likely to be the original of our word island f The
correspondence between the two is exact. How
frequently is the term eye applied to any small
spot standing by itself, and peering out as it were,
in fact an insulated spot : thus we have the eye of
an apple, the eye or centre of a target, the eye of
a stream (i. e. where the stream collects into a
point — a point well known to salmon fishers), and
very many other instances. What more natural
term, then, to apply to a spot of land standing
alone in the midst of an expanse of water than an
eye of land ?
«0 NOTES AND QUKBIES. [Ma 164.
In niHllrniKUim uT t)il« vlow, Ixtun Wk tittlio ^ ir JNiiii«ry ma (Migi Hi, ISiiiISi il>i]i) liv Iktr. li
orluliml litn|iUN|i<> t tWiv wo flu't Ui« in)m)tt>UHi)« pramWoH bMtt|))' ywn Urn irvlumly, wlnilr.dr mlny,
«l' rrnTi "ti •W*! ll'" ""VS "I" v>'fy ftmiiipiil uww "iliwwW 1 I"»« III till. ««■« vflim nii Miii'lnti Jiiill«l>iu(
IVIii'K! All i>r tlioiii *)i«wlii|i iIihL tliio i't>iii|iimllil Mli^luttvi'n'rlleo
tm-luntH» luamljr lnullliiMle. l>ul. oMmuflji iini> <irm. l*«ul b* Iktr imri diHir,
ImIiI^. 'tliii* wo fliiil. HW*w>/if><, lliP |iii)il1 omIix II )>n>iHUn llwii * liH|>|<y yuari
fjni I mv-i'h)')!, a wIiu1i>w-U|{1ii, ovu-iIihu' i nw ■>•*, Hiil If ll vlmiii'i' in •iiiki' or mIii.
|mIii III llio oyot niA-JIWiijr<i«, W» iiiblM i? lh» fdvii will bo ttvM all Mtrli orHinliu
oyoa. Ill Uto Invt iiiiUiioD, tlio v U <lii>|>|iml i Hiij *>r tl* llic w W du Mnw alotk,
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mvpi' iiM>ii H (tohiilutt UiKlMiimi uf fuiOi coniiPMlni) Wo ilit> Otlliiwliiji'
liroii([lil Hu-w»rd. UVn thp woitl /«■, H' li Im "WlientlipliwMirtillwiitllw.luw.ilip.li Ik grwM,
KuniHiMol to uiDHn an fjrMw 1 ..uHtomf. ihhj vwy «ii,l ihlpkwiliiitlHiaiJmwn*.''
woll »Untl t>jr llMir Hit utnmli hut. It' ooi'r)' Im> "Hit fr«M. wuvli «r»«ktiiK in iIIipIkx u\A |i.».K
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llie xi'tlnii Olid Huiuwii iiUMleri." mA tlieiispHirlli tu m*lrUHhile hltn. with hli iMtN
JuLT 16. 1853.] NOTES AND QUEEIEa 51
marri^es. Mid inues descending, in the itfpuer of the The episcopal bencli, m particular, are Tery
Gentle and Noble." generally faulty in this respect, and, for the greater
Thus wrote Sir John Feme in The Blazon of part, content themselves (if not by birth entitled
Centric, printed in the year ]586. So also Coates, to bear wms) by asBumiog the ooat of some old-
in hia addilioos to Gwillim, irriting in 1724, says : established family of the same, or aemiy the same,
.,„.,, .... name. In the case of temporal peerages, which
r., il,.,gh .,.1 m th«, «,,i „.,p,.uo., .„. „^ ^„, „,j J ^ thr«i.cient con.liiulion
(as IS sliewed) taken up at any jrentlemaQs pleaaure, c-d-_j j . j ^ ■!. -jji j ,
yet hBlh tlmt liberty for m-ny iges been deny'd ; and "f England, renorat^d from the middle and low(^
.hey, by regal authorlly, madrthe rewards and en- "i»^^> *^ P"^?.** '! ""rem accordance wiA
signs of merit, &c., the gracious fasours of princes i ^"^ precepts of The Biazo» of Genlrie ; but I be-
no one being, by the Uw of gentility in England, ^''\ 'here is at least one italaace, that of a lawyer
illowed the bearing thereof, but tbosa that either bare "^ "le greatest eminence, who was last year ad-
' 41ie[D by descent, or grant, or purchase IVom tfae bod; vanced to a peerage, and to the highest rank iu
■ or badge of any prisoner they in open and lawful war his profession, who has assnmed both arms and
liad taken." supporters without the fiat of the College of Arms.
\ He proceeds to adduce various authorities on The " novi homines " of a former age set a better
■ this subject, for which I would refer to the Intro- example to those of the present day, and were
. Auction to the last edition of Gwillim's Benddry, '^\ ashamed to go honesUy to the proper office
' St 16' &c and take out their patent of arms, thus founding
'Poi-ny defines (MiwmprtMaj™ to be— f family" who have a rigU to the ensigns <S
^ honour which they assiune. araa.
' "Such as are taken up by the caprice or fancy of
vpttarti, who, being advanced lo a degree of fortune,
[ assume them without baling deserved them by any ,«,~.
\ glorious action. This, indeed (he adds), is grtat abvu UOIUXK ASB lOVSL.
^/ heraldry; but jet SO common, and so much tole- The following document, m connexion with the
^ rated, almost eretywhere, that little or no notice U trial between Morice and Lovell, in the Court of
itatenofit." Chivalry, will probably interest your heraldic
This was written in 1765. Archdeacon Nares, readers. L. B, Labkisg.
In his very amusing fleraific AnoTiialiei, printed Ceste indentur tesmoyne q' mos' Johfi de
, M» 1823, says: Cobehm t' de Cobehm ad bailie p awent de les
•■ At preaent, limiUrUy of tuoue is quite mouf^ to sires de Morlee et Louel dys lib' de bone moneye
lead any man to condude himietf to be a branch of amest' John Barnet, cest aasau' cent south p' le
■wime very ancient or noble atock, and, if occasion arise, un ptje et cent south p" lautre ptye acause q'
to assume the arms appropriate to such families, with- mesme le dit mestre John et meat' WiUm Dawode
<ut any appeal to the Heralds' office ; nor would any gj ^ggj' WJUE Sondeye serrount assessours sur la
■ ^Idmnaj, Gttihergreai!, living in affluence, he without jaWirt pcndaunt Dentre les deux syngn" susdite rf
^uch marks and symbol, on his plate, seaK carriages, j^^^ ^^^^ ^^ j^ J^^^j ^^ Chiualerie. En tesmoy-
fc^cy'^and rancel*' ''"'*"'"'^' ''"'"P'' """ ^ "'"' naunce de quel payment a ycestes endentur lea
^ nt.vH fliTwIitf^v: pntrr^nhniinrrRahlement aunt mra
iityes Busditez entrechaungeablement ount myi
It must be confessed that the middle of the lours sceals.
-nineteenth century offers the most ample facilities DonftLonndreslexxiu'dePew'erlandureagne
-for the would-be aristocrats of the age, and Suit le Koy Richard secounde quinzisme.
■without troubling Sir Charles Young or the Col- rj^ dorso 1
^^f^it'T^: "'"''' *^,f''''?"''>S «d^e'-'i»ement Lei«l,„t„, de * U paye ft mesf Joh£ Bamet p'
-cut from a newspaper of the day:- Morlee et Louel.
"Thk FimtT LivuT. — Arm* and Crests cor- _^____
lectly ascertained, and in any case a steel die eiprwaly
'Out for the butlDDs, free of cost," &c, shakspeaks cobxesfondbhcb.
There can, indeed, be no doubt that this foolish Shakspeare Emendatunu—AB this iathetf&ot
E'actice of assuming arms without right has of Shakspeare emendations, I beg to propose the
te years grown to ait absurd height ; and I fear following for the consideration of the numerous
' the assumption is by no means confined to persons readers of " N. & Q." I am the more emboldened
f who have riseD by trade, or by some lucky specu- to do so, as I find several marginal correctirau
' letiou in railwayfi, &c. ; even those who have beeo made from time to time are verified by the manu.-
"advaneed iMto on oSce or digmfy qf publiqte script corrections in Mb. Coujbk's folio of 1632,
' ■ednmuttreiion" have but seldom made tlieir tn- These proposed aTenot,however, theie, orlwoul4
^ jtmU reqtieet" to tJie heralds "to devise a eeole qf not have troubled you, though it is many moullig
, «rM«« to bt bome bg Oem mliout rtprodt." siace I first al(«ced the reading of my copy.
52
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 194.
TamtTig of the Shrew, Act V. Sc.2. — On the
exit of Kathitriaa to " fetch " la the disobedient
wives, Lucentio remarks :
/' Lvc. Here is ■ wonder, if jrou talk of a wander.
HorU And >o il U. I wonder what it bodef.
Pel. Marrj. peace it bodes, and love, and quiet life,
A<t awful rule, and right lupiemaoy ;
And, to be ahort. what not that'i sweet and happy."
I'or " an awful rule " I propose to subslitute and
lawful rule, as agreeing better with the text and
context; indeed, the whole passage indicates it.
Fetruchio means that the change in Katliadna's
temper and conduct bodes lore, peace, law, and
order, in contradistinction to awe or fear. The
repetition of the conjunction and also makes the
harmony of the language more equal ; "and love,
and quiet life, and lawful rule, and right supre-
macj," rings evenly to the ear. Considering the
number and character of the emendations in Mb.
COllibk's volume, I have the less hesitation in
proposing this one. The language of Shakspeare
IS, as we know it, for the most part so clear, har-
monious, distinct, and forcible, that I think we
are justified in considering an^ obscure, incon-
■istent, or harsh passage, as having met with some
mishap either in bearing, transcribing, or in print-
ing. Some months ago, and certainly before Mb.
Cou-ieb's volume of corrections appeared, I for-
warded to "N. & Q." (it never appeared) a cor-
rection from Aidony and Cleopatra, Act V. Sc. 2.,
where Cleojatra, contemplating suicide, says it is —
" To do that thing that ends all athei deeds.
Which Bhscklea accidcnli, and bolu up change;
Which Bleeps, atid never palates more the dung.
The beggar's nurse end CiBBar's."
The word " dung" ending the third line, was so
evidently dug, or nipple, that I thought no man
to whom it was pointed out could have a doubt
about it. Mb. Collieb remarks in his recent
volume, "This emendation may, or may not, have
been conjectural, but we may be pretty sure it is
right." I doubt if Me. Collieb would have ac-
cepted any authority other than that of his own
folio, although Shakspeare has frequently used the
word dug as a synonym for nipple, as see Romeo
and Juliet, Act I. Sc. 3. :
" NurK. And she was wean'd, — I never shall forget
it,—
Of all the days of the year, upon that day :
For I had then laid wormwood to my dug.
' but, as I said.
When it did tsste the wormwood on the nipple
Ofmy dug, and felt it bilter, pretty fool,
To see it telehy, and fall out with Ihe dug 1"
This quotation proves cleai'ly, I consider, that dug
was meant by Cleopatra, and not dung; and so I
considered before the old manuscript correction of
Mb.Coujbx'b appeared. The words "an awful"
are as clearly to my mind and lawful. I doubty
however, if they will be so acknowledged, as the
use of the words " an awful," it may be contendedi
are countenanced by other passages iu Shakspeare ;
I quote the following.
Two Gentlemen of Verona, Act IV. Sc. 1. —
" Srd OutlaiB. Know (hen, that some of ui are gen-
Such as the fury of ungovern'd youth
Thrust from Ihe company otaic/al men."
The word " awful " is surely, in this place, lawfvl;
an outlaw would be little inclined to consider men
as "awful," hut the contrary. Read the last linft
as under —
" Thrust from the company of lawfid men,"
and the meaning is simple and clear. The out-
laws were thrust from the company of lainfid men,
that is, men who obeyed the laws ihey hnd broken
in " the fury of ungovern'd youth."
In King Richard IL, Act III. Sc. 3., the follow-
ing use of the words lawfid and awful occurs :
" K. RicA. We are amazed ; and thus long have we
To watch the fearful bending of thy knee,
[ To NorthHTRberlaad,
Because we thought ourself thy lawful king;
And if we he, how dare thy joints forget
To pay their awful duly to our presence? "
The meaning in this case is no doubt clear enough,
and the words "awful duty" may be the right
ones ; but had they stood lawfid dutj/ in any old
copy, he would have been a bold man who would
have proposed to substitute awful for lawful.
Second Part of King Henry JV., Act 17.
Sc. 1.—
" Arch. To us, and to our purposes, confin'd i
We come within our aafvl hanks again,
And knit our powers to the arm of peace."
The use of the word " awful " in this passu!;e may
be right, but, as in the preceding case, Ithink,
' ' ' iha stood in any old
been found, in Ms. (
lume, the fitness would have been acknowledged.
Shakspeare used the word "lawful" in many
instances where, no doubt, it mny with renson,
strong as any given here, he changed to awful.
In the historicnf plays, lawfidking, lawful nrogenjr
lawful heir, lauful magistrate, lawful enrth, lawful
sword, &c., may be found. These suggestions,
like the pinch of sand thrown on the old woman's
cow, if they do no good, will, I trust, do no harm.
ROBBBT EaWLINBOH.
Shakspeare. — A German writer, Professor HU-
gers, of Aix-la-Chapelle, published in 18S2 &
pamphlet, in which he endeavoured to prove that
many passages in Shakspeare, which were ori^in-
yiy written in verse, have been "degraded" mioi
prose, and quotes several passages from the playft
July 16. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
53
in support of his thesis. Professor Hilgers says
that emendation of the text, by means of such a
mode of correction as would restore the corrupted
verses to their original form, has hitherto been
almost entirely neglected by commentators, or
else employed by them with yery little ability and
success. I have not seen the Proressor*s Treatise,
and only write from a short notice which I have
just perused of it in a German review; but, if
what Professor H. states be correct, the subject
appears to deserve more particular attention from
the writers in the *^ N. & Q.,*' who have devoted
their ingenuity and research to the illustration of
Shakspeare. In the hope of attracting them to
*^ fresh fields and pastures new," in which to re-
create themselves, and to instruct and delight the
world-wide readers of the great dramatist, I ven-
ture to solicit attention to Professor Hilger^s pam-
phlet and its subject. In this I only echo the
German reviewers language, who most highly
E raises the Professor^s acuteness, and the value of
is strictures, and promises to return to them at
greater length in a future number of the periodical
in which he writes. John Macbat.
Oxford.
UNPUBLISHED LETTEB.
I have thought that the following old letter,
from a retired lawyer of the seventeenth century
to his future son-in-law, might not be altogether
uninteresting to your readers, as referring to the
value of land and money at the period when it was
written. C. W. B.
S',
July >• 16^(16)95.
w° your sister marry s, there is a 1000 pounds
more to be provided. Pray putt all these things
together, and propose some way of solving all
these difficultys ; and, if you can, I should be glad
to have it annexed to your estate, and settled upon
the heirs male of your body. Upon w*'** consicter-
ation I shall be more inclined to farther your
desires in a reasonable manner.
Pray, w** you hear any more of that coiiselor^s
amours send me word, but lett me advise you
never to say anything of him or his estate that
may come to the lady's ears. I hope my Lady
Morton will not tell M*^' Tregonell any more than
what all the world should know. I heard the K^
had bid adieu to the Woodland Lady. I am very
glad of it, for I wish him better fibrtune. I writt
lately to S' John, who honoured me with a letter.
As for public news, you have heard, I suppose, of
our burning St. Mafos and Grandvile ; and that
wee have left a great many of our men before
Namur, but they continue the siege vigorously.
They say the firench are about to sett downe be-
fore Dixmude, to bring us of by revultion. Pray
p'sent mine and my daughter's service to your
sister, and believe me to be, S*", your afiectionate
kinsman and servant J. Potenger.
Hemember, at this time there is a great deal of
land to be sold, but fevr purchasers. I have
spooke to S' Miles Cooke, who promises to lett
me have your settlement to peruse, and to end
matters fairly. Since I writt my letter 'tis re-
ported .... is surrendered or taken.
These ifor Richard Bingha, Esq., at
Bingham's Malcombe, to be left at
the post-house in St. Andrew*Sy
Milborne, Dorsett.
Since you are pleased to demand my opinion
concerning your mtended purchase, I shall give
you it as well as I can upon so short a warning.
You say, if lett, you suppose it was worth a 130/.
per annu. I cannot tell by your letter whether
the mills, lett at 201, per annu, are a part of y*
130Z. : if it be, I think 2600/. a great price, being
much above twenty years' purchase, considering
the lord's rent. But if they are not included in
that sum, 'tis a good twenty years' purchase. Now
you must consider what returne this will make for
your money. I am sure, as times goe, not three
per cent; and money makes full five, and very
seldom, if ever, pays taxes. I believe it may be
very convenient for you, and it is very advan-
tageous to be entire ; but if you should contract a
debt tO' buy this estate you will be very uneasy,
and, if you marry, the first setting out will be
expensive, and it will be ill taking up money to
defray necessary charges. I conceive the lartU is
in hand, and not lett ; so that, if you have not a
tenant you must be at the expence of stocking,
w*'** will sett very bard upon you. And you know,
Minor fiaM*
Lines on the Institution of the Order of the
Garter, — I send you the following, which may bo
worth a corner in " N. & Q." The only account
I can give of them is that I found them in MS.
among other poetical extracts, without date or
author's name : —
<* When Salisbury's famed Countess was dancing with
glee,
Her stocking's security fell from her knee.
Allusions and hints, sneers and whispers went round;
The trifle was scouted, and left on the ground.
When Edfvard the Brave, with true soldier-like spirit.
Cried, * Tlie garter is mine ; 'tis the order of merit ;
The first knight in my court shall be happy to wear.
Proud distinction! the garter that fell from the fair:
While in letters of gold— 'tis your monarch's high
wUl —
Shall there be inscribed/ "111 to him that thinks
Teb Bbb.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 194.
Old Ship, — It may be of interest to some of
TOUT readers to learn that the ship which conveyed
General Wolfe on his expedition to Quebec is
itill afloat under the name of the '^ William and
Ann."
She was built in 1759 for a bomb-ketch, and
was in dock in the Thames a few days since,
sound and likely to endure for many years yet :
she is mostly now engaged in the Honduras and
African timber trades, which is in itself anroof
of her great strength. A. 0. H.
Blackheath.
The Letter "^" in "AumWe."— I was always
taught in my childhood to sink the h in this word,
and was confirmed in this habit by the usage of
all the well-educated people that I met in those
days, as also by^ the authority of every pronoun-
cing dictionary in the English language : and to
this day hear many people quite as well educated,
and of as high station m all but literary society,
as Mr. Dickens, use the same pronunciation ; but
this eminent writer has thought fit of late to pro-
scribe this practice as far as in him lies, by making
it the Shibboleth of two of the meanest and vilest
characters in his works. I should like to know
whether the aspiration of this letter is due to
Mr. D.*s London birth and residence, or whether
it has become of late the general usage of good
society. If the latter, it is clear that a new edi-
tion of Walher is required for the benefit of such as
have no wish to be confounded with the "Keeps."
Your late Numbers have given some curious in-
stances of Cockney and other rhymes. I am sorry
to see that the offensive r not only appears to be
gaining ground in poetry, but also in the mouths
of many whose station and education might have
been supposed to preserve them from this vul-
garism. If the masters of our srent schools took
as much pains with their pupils pronunciation of
English, as with that of Latin and Greek, wo
should hear less of this. J. S. Wardan.
" The Angela* TTAiVrper."— The admirers of that
popular song will bo surprised to find that there
prevails in India a tradition very similar to the
one on which that song is founded.
The other day our Hindoo nurse was watching
our baby asleep, and noticing that it frequently
smiled, said,^ ^'^ God is talking to it 1 " The tra-
dition, as elicited from this woman, seems to be
here, that when a child smiles in its sleep, God is
flaying something| pleasing to it; but when it cries.
He is talking to it of sorrow. J. C. B.
Punjab.
Pronmciation of Coke (Vol. vii., p, 586.). —
Probably the under-mentioned particulars may
tend to elucidate the Quer^ discussed in your
paper touching the pronunciation of Chief Jus-
tice Coke*s surname m his Lordship^s time.
In numerous original fkmily "Coke dooamenta**
in my possession, amongst which are a mott
spirited and highly interesting letter written bj
tne celebrated Lady ElizaMth Hatton*| Sir
Edward Coke*8 widow, quite in character witb
her ladyship, shortly after her husband*! death;
and likewise several letters written by his ohil*
dren and mndchildren ; Sir Edward • samame
is invariably spelt Coke, whilst in other his family
documents t and public precepts I possess, the
latter of which came under the eye of Lord»
Keepers Coventry and Littleton, Sir Edwnrd**
name is, in nine cases out of ten in five hundred
instances, spelt Coohe and Cooh ; thus, I submit^
raising an almost irresistible presumption that^
however the Chief Justice*s surname was written^
it was pronounced CooA and not Coke.
T. W. JoiiBs.
Nantwich.
The Advice supposed to have been given ft^
Julius III, — The Consilium^ sometimes and inad-
vertently called a Council^ addressed to Julius IIL^
Pope of Eome, by certain prelates, has just been
once more quoted, for the fiftieth time, perhaps^
within the present generation, as a genuine docu-
ment, and as proceeding from adherents of the
Church of Rome. This re-quotation appears in
an otherwise useful little volume of the Religious
Tract Society, entitled The Bible in many Tongues^
p. 96. ; and it may tend to check the use made of
the supposed Advice or Council to state, what a
perusal either of the original in Brown's FascieuXm
Herum Expetend, et Fugiend,^^ or of a translation in
Gibson's Preservative (vol. i. pp. 183. 191., ed-
1848), will soon make evident, tnat the document
in question is a piece of banter, and must be at-
tributed to the pen of P. P. Vergerio, in whose
Worhs it is in fact included, in the single volume
published Tubing. 1 568, fol. 94— 1 04.
So fVequently has this supposed Advice beea
cited as a serious affair, that the pages of **N. k Q.**^
may be well employed in endeavouring to stop tjie*
somewhat perverse use of a friendly weapon.
Noyui^
^utxM.
♦ ♦»
BISHOP OARDnfER " DB VBBA. OBBDIBIfTIA.
It is probable that others of your readers be-
sides myself have had good reason to complaia
that Dr. Maitland has cruelly raised the price of
this little book to a bibliomaniacal height, by his
inimitable description of its curious contents and
history. (Essaifs on Subjects connected with (he
Reformation^ xvii. xviii. xix.)
* net surname is so written.
f Some of them of so early a date as the year IBOO,
when Sir Edward was Attorney- General to Queeii
Elisabeth.
July 16. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
65
Some of the tiling which seem to be iodubitable
respectm^ the original work are these : — 1. That
it was first printed in 153^. 2. That, consequently,
Bishop Burnet {Hist o/Ref.^ Parti, b. iii. prl66.:
Dubhn, 1730) was mbtaken ia representing it as
Jioying been written in reply to Cardinal Pole.
3. That there uhis an octavo edition published at
Strasburg in 1536, and that Groldastufi followed it.
4. That there was an addki(mal reprint of the
tract at London in 1603. (Schelhorniiy Amom,
JSist EccUs,^ tom. i. ppt. 15. 849.) But I am
anxious to make three inquiries relative to this
really important document and its fictitious pre»
face.
1. The Koane volume, certainly the earliest in
English, professes to have been printed by " Mi-
cbal Wood" in 1553. Can we not determine the
place of its origin by the recollection of the fact,
that Bishop Bale*s Mysterye of Iniquyte^ or Con'
filiation of Ponce Pantolabus, was printed at Geneva
by "Mychael Woode" in 1545?
2. With regard to the typographical achieve-
ments of the Brocards, is it not rather an apropos
circumstance, that "Biliosus Balaeus," as Fuller
calls him, was the author of a Historia Divi Bro-
cardif (Ware's Works, ii. 325.)
3. May not Bale (or Baal, according to Pits)
be suspected to have been the composer of the
Bonnerian Preface ? He might have reckoned it
among the many Facetias et Jocos which he de^
Glares that he had put forth. It is observable that,
while the writer of this Preface designates Bishop
Grardiner as the " common cutthrot of Englande,
the same title is bestowed upon Bonner in the
Foxian Letter addressed to him by " an unknown
person" (Strype*s Memor. iii., Catal. p. 161.: Lon-
don, 1721), and which, from internal evidence
taken from the part relating to Philpot, must be
referred to the year 1555. The style of these per-
formances is similar; and let ^^gaie Gardiner,
blow-bole Boner, trusti Tonstal, and slow-bellie
Samson " of the Preface be compared with " glo-
rious Gardiner, blow-bolle Bonner, tottering Tun-
stal, wagtaile Weston, and carted Chicken." (Bale's
Declaration of Bonner's Articles, fol. 90. b., Lon-
don^ 1561.) R. G.
Minnx <SL\xzxiti.
Lord Byron. — What relation to the poet was
the Lord Byron mentioned in the Apology for the
Life of George Ann Bellamy f Ui«£I>a.
Philadelphia.
Curious Custom of ringing Bells for the Dead.
— In Marshfield, Massacnusets, it has been cus-
tomary for a very long period to ring the bell of
the parish church most violently for eight or ten
minutes, whenever a death occurs in the village ;
then to strike it slowly three times three^ wiuch
makes known to tiie inhabitants that a man or
boy has expired, and finally to toll it the number
of times that the deceased had numbered years of
existence.
The first settlers of Marshfield having been
Englishmen, ma.j I ask if this custom ever did, or
does now, exist m the mother country ? W. W.
Malta.
Unpublished Essay by Lamb-. — Coleridge is
represented in his Table Talk (p. 253. ed. 1836%
to have said that *^ Charles Lamb wrote an essay
on a man, who had lived in past time." The
editor in a note tells us he knows " not when or
where." I do not find it in the edition of his
works published in 1846, nor have I been able to
discover it in any of the journals, to which he
contributed, that have fallen in my way. Haye
any of your correspondents met with it ?
R. W. Elliott.
Peculiar Orncmient in Crosthwaite Church. — On
lately visiting Crosthwaite Church, Cumberland,
I was exceedingly struck with the great peculi*
arity of a carving, pointed out to me by the sexton,
on the left jambs of all the windows in the north
and south aisles, both inside and out. It is in the
form of a circle with eight radiations, and always
occurs about half-way between the shoulder of the
arch and the sill. During the late restoration of
the church, it has been covered with plaster in
every case in the interior, save one in the north
aisle, which is left very distinct. It does not
appear on any of the windows at the east end or
in the tower. I noticed a similar figure over the
stone door-way of the old inn at Threlkeld, with
the letters C G inscribed on one side, and the
date 1688 on the other. The sexton said, he had
never been able to obtain any intelligence as to
its symbolical meaning or , history, although he
had inquired of nearly every one who had been
to see the church. Can any of your correspon-
dents throw a light upon the subject ?
R. W. Elliott.
CromwelVs Portrait, — In the Annual Register^
1773, " Characters," p. 77. ; in Hughes's Letters^
ii. 308. ; in Gent Mag., xxxv. 357. ; and in
Noble's House of Cromwell, i. 307., is a statement,
originally made by Mr. Say, of Lowestoft, in his
account of Mrs. Bridjijet Bendish, importing that
the best picture of Oliver which the writer had
ever seen, was at Rosehall (Beccles), in the pos-
session of Sir Robert Rich. Where is this pof"
trait ? Has it ever been engraved ? S. W. Kix.
Beceles.
Governor Brooks, about a century since, was
governor of one of the West India Islands. I have
eard Cuba named as his government; and it
Might have beea thai, the short time Cuba was in
56
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 194.
tho pofidMion of the English^ ho wni governor of
it; out t Atn unoerUin. If Any con^Cipondent,
vomod in Wcit tndinn AfTttim, cao gtvo mo Any pAr-
ticulAn of tho ilimily And Antocodchu of the Abovi*,
or Any roA^ronco to*nit «orvicoii (for I iupt)oiio hint
to bAvo boon AmilitAry mAn)| it will grcAtobUflo
Tim lijm.
Old Booh* — I notice lomo of your corronpon-
dontfi, hAving fAnciod tlmt thcv Imvo picked up At
Aomo oltl book-MtAll An invHhuiblo troA«urc. Aro
coolly told by others nioro loArnod. ^* It would be
A bAd oxchnn^o for a ihilling ;** anU| AgAin» **If it
cost throo tthiUingi And Alxponcc, tho purohAaor
WAi most unforttinate.**
> MAy I Ask tho vaIuo of tho following ? Thoy
oamo into poMOMion of my fAmily About thirty
yoAfi Ago :
** Kpltomo TlieiAurl AntlqviltAtum hoo ttiit Impp.
Rom. ori«ntttUum ot occldtftitAlium tconum ttx AiitlquiM
nuniiiimiitibuii mmm (iiiclliwlme (lellncAtum.
** Ex MusAK) Jacobi dit Stntila Manlunni Antiiiuiitum.
**LugiUini, m|MhI Jacobum tla StrndA «t Thomam
Ouerolnum, Mi)t.itt. (155.*)). Cum PriviUglo Ittfglo.**
IlandMomcly got up ; gilt odgci, pp, 330. Alio,
*< Sommarlo dtilU vlttt de Gl/Impcriatortt Romanl da
C. Giolio C«Nar« nIoo a Fordinaiulo It., con lo loro
ttffitfl« CauHttf dallo ^fcdaglie i In Uoma aprcMO)
Lodovico Oiigtiani, Mi)Ckxxvit» pp. 80,"
DlttATOUtSMAIS.
The Privil(*ge« qf ihe Sifn of Canterbury.'^ I
And proftcrvca by vVilllnni of MAlmtibury, in his
Chronich^ book ill., the fbllowing lottor ft'om Popo
Bonlfaco to Justus Archbishop of Cantorbury,
rospcctittg tho privilogos of his sco :
** Tai* bo It fVom every ChrUtlan, that anything
ooncerning tho city of Canterbury bo diminiiihed or
ehanged, In present or /ktktt h'w?*, wbich was ap*
pointed by our predeeomor Pope Orogory, honnnvtr
humnH vhcmH9fnHifp» mn^ 6« ehnnp^d i but moro espe-
olally by the authority of St. IVter, tho chlvf of the
Apowtleii, xve oommand and ordain, (hat the city of
Canterbury thnH pii?r fi(>rtr\fUr f>« f^tttmtd tht A/c^ti/m-
ttinn S<>i of all Ibitaln ; and wo dcoree and appoint
immHtabfj^t that all tho provlnoeN of the kingdom of
£nffland ihall be Nubject to the Metropolitan Churoh
of tho aforesaid Hee. And If any one attempt to injuro
this ohurob, which U moro ONpecially under the power
And protection of the Holy lloman Church, or to
loMon tho Jurisdiction conceded to It, may Ooo ex-
punge him fVom the book of lif^ ) and let him know
that ho is bound by tho sentence of a curse.**
- How cAn tho exproisions I havo ttAlloised bo
rooonoilcd with tho croation of tho Archioj)iscopAl
Bed of Wostminstur f W. FiusttR,
Tor.Mohun.
Tienddk Colour pertaimnff to Ireland, — Thero
occurs ill tho ImdiH Umvereitjf Magagine for
October, 1863, An Article oiUitlod '* A Night in
tho Fino ArU* Court of our NAtionAl Exhibition,**
and At tho oonolusion a ** Noto/* in which I find
tho following rotnArks : — t
**Tlds last (tho Aguro of Krin), as described, it
purely Ideal, but legitimately brought In, as lloftan^t
figuro of * nilMrnIa* occupied a position in the Kino
Arts* Court, and suggested it. It may l>o as well to
add that KrIn Is described as wearing a ^/ms manilti
as blue, not green, is the horaldio colour pertaining to
Ireland now.
May I inquire At what time, and under what
olrouniitAnceA, bluo waa aubitituted for tho old
fkvourlto green P IImniiy IL Driibn.
St. Luoia.
Deecendanta qf Judai hcariot.'^ln Southey*!
Omniana is the following :
" It was l>oUo¥od In Tier della Valle*s time that the
descendants of Judas still oxiiteil at Corl\i, dioutfh the
pemons wbo ■ufHtred thU Imputation stoutly denied
tho truth of the genealogy."
Is anything fArther to be met with on thia cu-
rious suiyect ? G. CiittiiD.
Parinh Clerh and Politics, — In Twentif^HM
Pmlfm of Thanhgimnff and Praiee^ Love emd
Olorjf^ for the nee of a Parish Church (tCxon.|
And. Brioe, 1736), the rector ^who compiled it)i
among other reasons for omitting aU tlie impre*
ca/ory PsAlmi, lAyi, — '
** Lest a parUh clerk, or any other, should bo whetting
his «M/ctfN, or oblli^lng his 9pttt, when ho iihould bo tn»
tertaining his devotion.**
That such praotioes were Indulged In, we hAT9
tho farther evidence of DrAmston the satirist :
** Not lontf Mince pnritih clnk«t with saucy airs,
Apply*d Ari>|r havid't iWms to 9tah't\fftiiri,'''*
Can any readers of ** N. k Q.** point out ox*
amples of such misApplicAtion 1* J. 0.
''Virgin Wife and widou^d A/iiW."— Wheneo
come the words "Virgin wife and widow'd maid/*
quoted, AppArenily, by LiddcU And Scott in their
Greek Lexicon, s. v. Airtttf^fCdy, as a rendering or
illustration of Hoc. CIO. f
Avoir.
" Cutting tifthe little heade of light:' — Perhapa
you or one of your oorrespondents would help mn
to tho wheroAbouts of some thoughtful linos which
t recently cauio Across, in a volume which I accU
dentAlly took up, but the nAine of whicb has com*
pletely slipped my memory.
* The Art qf n^Htiekh in imitittiim qf Nmieet I7i8^
with A hybrid portrAit of Heidegger, tho wbit. ek$mnU
of his day.
July 16. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
57
The lines referred to typified Tyranny under the
form of the man who puts out the gas-lights at
dawn : *' Cutting off the little heads of light which
lit the world." I am not sure of the rhythm, and
so have put the lines like prose ; but they wind up
with a fine analogy of the sun in all its glory
bursting on the earth, and putting the proceedings
of the light extinguisher utterly to nought.
A. B. R.
Medal of Sir Robert Walpole, — On a brass
medal, without date, rather larger than half a
crown, are these effigies.
On one side the devil, horned and tailed proper,
with a fork in his right hand, and marching with a
very triumphant step, is conducting a courtier in
full dress (no doubt meant for Walpole), by a
rope round his neck, into the open jaws of a
monster, which represent the entrance to the
place of punishment. Out of the devirs mouth
issues a label with the words, '^ Make room for Sir
Robert." Underneath, " No Excise."
On the reverse are the figures of two naval
officers, with the legend, " The British Glory re-
revived by Admiral Vernon and Commodore
Brown." This refers of course to the taking of
Porto Bello in November, 1739.
Is this piece one of rarity and value ? J.
La Fete des Chaudrons, — In the exhibition of
pictures in the British Institution is one (No. 17.)
by Teniers, entitled "La Fete des Chaudrons."
In what publication can the description of this
fete, or fan*, be found ? C. I. R.
Who first thought of Tahle-tuming f^ Whilst
the people are amusing themselves, and the learned
are puzzling themselves, on the subject of table-
turning, would you have any objection to answer
the following Query ?
Who first thought of table-turning P and whence
has it suddenly risen to celebrity ? J. G. T.
Hagley.
CoUe^e Guide. — Will some of your correspon-
dents kindly inform a father, who is looking for-
ward to his boys going to college, in what work
he will find the fullest particulars respecting
scholarships and exhibitions at the different col-
leges in both universities ? Querist is in posses-
sion of Gilbert's Liber Scholasticus (1843), the
Family Almanack for 1852, and, of course, the
University Calendars, S. S. S.
Done Pedigree, — A very old MS. pedigree of
the family of Done of Utkington, in the county
before me, connects with that family no less than
twenty-three Cheshire families of distinction, viz.
Cholmondeley, £gerton,Wilbraham, Booth, Axden,
Leicester, and seventeen others. Now, as it ap-
pears by your note on the communication of a
correspondent (Vol. vi., p. 273.), that there exists
a pedigree of the family of Done, of Utkington, in
the British Museum, Additional MS. No. 5836.
pp. 180. and 186., perhaps you will be good
enough to say whether that pedigree discloses the
extensive Cheshire family connexion with the
Done family above noticed. T. AV. Jones.
Nantwich.
[Tlie following families connected with Done of
Utkington occur in the pedigree (Add. MS. 5836.
p. 186.): " Richard de Kingsley, a.d. 1233 ; Venables,
Swinerton, Peter de Thornton, Lord Audley, Dutton,
Aston, Gerrard, Wilbraham, Manwaring, Eliz. Traf-
ford, widow of Geo. Booth of Dunham, Ralph Legh
of High Legh, Davenport, Thomas Stanley de Alder-
ley, Thomas WagstafT of Tachbroke, and Devereux
Knightley of Fawsley." This pedigree was copied by
Cole from an old MS. book of pedigrees formerly be*
Idnging to Sir John Crew. See also Ormerod's Cheshire,
vol. ii. p. 133., for a pedigree of Done of Utkington,
Flax- Yards, and Duddon, compiled from inquisitions
post mortem, the parochial registers, and the Visitations
of 1580 and 1664.]
Scotch Newspapers^ SfC, — What are the earliest
publications of Scotland giving an account of the
current events of that kingdom ? T. F.
[ The Edinburgh Gazette, or Scotch Postman, printed
by Robert Brown on Tuesdays and Thursdays, ap-
pears to have been the earliest gazette. The first
Number was published in March, 1715. This was
followed by The Edinburgh Evening Courant, published
on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Thursdays. No. 1. ap-
peared on the 15th December, 1718, and has existed
to the present time. There was another paper issued
on May 8, 1692, called The Scotch Mercury, giving a
true account of the daily proceedings and most remark-
able public occurrences in Scotland ; but this seems to
have been printed in London for R. Baldwin. The
earliest Jlmanack published in Scotland was in 1677,
by Mr. Forbes of Aberdeen, under the title of A New
Prognostication, calculated for North Britain, and which
was continued until the year 1700.]
Dictum de KenUworth, — Said to have passed
anno 1266. What was the nature of it ?
Abbedonensis.
[It is a declaration of the parliament of Henry IIL,
containing the terms on which the king was to grant a
general pardon to the malcontents of ElV) namely, that
all who took arms against the king should pay him the
value of their lands, some for five years, others for
three and for one. A copy of it is in the Cottonian
Library, Claudius, D. ii., 119.b., and in Tyrrel's Hist,
of England, p. 1064.]
Dr. Harwood. — Can you tell me in what year
the Rev. Dr. Harwood of Lichfield, author of a
History of that city, and other works, died ? X
58
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 194.
believe it was about 1849 ; but I have not been
able to ascertain the exact date. A. Z.
[Dr. Harwood died 23rd December, 1842, aged 75.
For a biographical notice of him, see Gent, Mag, for
February, 1843, p. 202.]
NAMES OF PLACES.
(Vol. vii., p. 536.)
I have been travelling so much about in the
country since I left England, that I have not al-
ways the opportunity of seeing your " N. & Q."
until l(Mig after the publication of the different
Numbers. I have in this way seen some Queries
put to me about matters connected with the his-
tory of the Danish settlements in England. But
as I have had no particular information to give, I
have not thought it worth while to write to say
that I know nothing of any great consequence.
Just when I left Copenhagen, some days ago, a
friend of mine showed me that Mr. TAViiOB, of
Ormesby in Norfolk, asked some questions re-
garding the Danish names of places in Norfolk.
In- answer to them I beg to state, that all the
names terminating in -by unquestionably are of
Danish origin. Mr. Tayi^b is perfectly right in
supposing that several of these names of places
contain the names of the old Danish conquerors.
But I do not think that Ormesby originally has
been Grormsby. Gorm certainly is the same as
Guthrum ; but both of these names are distinctly
different from the name " Orme " or " Orm,"
which, in our old language, signifies a serpent,
and also a worm. (The famous ship, on board of
which King Olaf Tryggveson was killed in the
J rear 1000, was called " Ormen hin lange," i.e, the
ong serpent.) I have observed that several En-
glish families (undoubtedly of old Scandinavian
descent) at this day have the family-name **Onn*'
or "Orme."
Among the other names of places quoted by
Mb. Taylob, KoUesby roost probably must be de-
rived from the name "Rollo" or "Rolf;" but I
lizard the origin of the other names as being
much more doubtful. If we had the original
ferms of these names, it might have been easier to
decide upon it. As the names are now, I do not
■ee anything purely Scandinavian in them, except
ibe termination -by. It is not at all unlikely that
tlie name Ashby or Askeby might have been called
so from " Ash-trees " (Danish " Ask eller Esk "),
but I dare not venture into conjectures of this
kind.
I should be very happy if I in any other way
could be of any service to Mb. Taylob in his re-
searches about the Danish settlements in East
Anglia. His remarks upon the situation of the
villages with Danish names are most interesting
and instructive. I always sincerely wish that in-
habitants ef the different old Danish districts in
the North and East of England would, in the
same way, take up the question about the Danish
inffuence, as I feel fully convinced that very re-
markable and important elucidations might be
gained to the history of England during a long
and hitherto very little known period.
J. J.^ A. Wo&SAAE.
CLEANING OLD OAK,
(Vol. vii., p. 620. ; Vol. viii., p. 45.)
Having been so frequently benefited by the in-
struction, especially photographic, issuing from
your most useful periodical, I feel myself almost
bound to contribute my mite of information when-
ever I may chance to have the power of doing so ;
consequently, should you not get a better method
of assisting Mb. F. M. Midjdleton out of his diffi-
culty of softening old paint, as described in the
" N. & Q.," No. 191., I beg to offer him the fol-
lowing, and from experience I can vouch iav its
certainty of leading him to the desired result.
Some years since, having had occasion to enter
a lumber-room of an old building, I was struck
with the antiquated appearance of an arm-chair,
which had, in days long gone by, been daubed
over with a dirty bluish paint. Finding, on in-
?uiry, that its owner set no particular vidue on it,
met with but little difSculty in inducing him to
make an exchange with me for a good mahogany
one. Soon after its being brought into my house,
one of my domestics discovered that it positively
swarmed with a species of lice, issuing from innu-
merable minute worm-holes and crevices, which of
course rendered it in its present state worse than
useless. Determined not to be deprived of mv
prize, I resolved on attempting to rid it of this
troublesome pest by washing it over with a strong
solution of caustic soda, made by mixing gome
quick-lime with a very strong solution of the
common washkig soda (impure carbonate of soda),
and pouring on the clear supernatant liquid itii
use. This proceeding, much to my satisfaction^
not only succeeded in entirely getting rid of l^e
vermin, but on my servant's scrubbing the chair
with a hard brush and hot soap and water, I found
that the caustic soda had formed a kind of soap,
by chemically uniting with the oil contained m
the old paint, thereby reducing it to such a state
of softness, that by a few vigorous applications and
soakings of the above-named solution, and subse-
quent scrubbings, my new favourite was also freed
from its ugly time-worn jacket of dirty paint, dig-
covering underneath a beautifriHy carved send
darkly coloured oaken surface.
After being perfectly dried and saturated wit^
linseed oil, it was frequently well rubbed, and th^
July 16. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
fi9
cbair standis to this day, like some of the yaluable
discoveries made by the alchemists when in search
of the Elixir Vit», or the Philosopher's Stone, an
example of a fortunate and unexpected disclosure
made when not directly in search of it. I have
since learnt that a fluid possessing the above-
named detergent qualities, is to be purchased at
some of the oil and colour shops, the formula fbr
its preparation being kept a secret.
Hei^&t Hkbbsrt Hslb.
Ashburton, Devonshire.
F. S. — In makin? the solution on a caustic
alkali, perhaps I should have said that the common
carbonate of potass of commerce will do as weH as
the common carbonate of soda, if not better, from
the probability of its making a stronger solution.
The following recipe for taking paint off old
oak is from No. 151. of The Builder:
" Make a strong solution of American potash (which
can be bought at any colour>shop, and resembles burnt
brick in appearance); mix this with sawdust into a kind
of paste, and spread it all over the paint, which will
become softened in a few hours, and is then easily re-
moved by washing with cold water. If, after the wood
has dried, it becomes cracked, apply a solution of hot
size with a brush, which will bind it well together and
make it better for varnishing, as well as destroy the
beetle, which is often met with in old oak, and is erro-
neously called the worm.'*
The following is also from the same Number :
<'- To make dark oak pale in colour, which is some-
times a desideratum, apply with a brush a Httle dilute
nitric acid judiciously ; and to stain light oak dark, use
the dregs of black ink and burnt amber mixed. It is
better to try these plan» on oak of little value at first,
as, to make a good job, requires cave, practice, and
juttention.**
XX. C. K..
F. M. Mn)i>LETON will find that American
potash, soft soap, and warm water, will remove
paint from oak. The mixture should be applied
with a paint-brush, and allowed to remain on until
the paint and it can be removed by washing with
warm water and a hard brush. Getsbn.
BUEIAL m AN BRECT FOSTUBX.
(Vol. viii., p. 5.)
Your correspondent Chbvbbblls refers to the
** tradition** of one of the Harcourt family being
buried in an ereet posture, and asks, *^ Is the pro*
babiltty of this being the ease supported by any,
aad what instances r" As this Query has been
raised, it may be worth while to mention the fol-
lowing circumstance, as a ainffular illustration of
* remarkable subject ; though (as will be seen)
the aetwai buml in aa erect posture is here also
probd^ky '^^trsditioiid;*
Towards the elose of the last century, there
lived in Kidderminster an eccentric person of the
name of Qrton (not that Orton, the friend of Dod-
dridge, who passed some time i«i the town), but
"Job Orton," the landlord of the Bell Intt.
During his lifetime he erected his tomb ki the
parish churchyard, with this memeniO'mori inscrip-
tion graven in large characters on the upper slab :
** Job Orton, a man from Leicestershire ;
And when he's dead, he must lie under here."
This inscription remains unaltered to this day,
and may be seen on the right-hand of the broad
walk on the north side of t& spacious churchyard.
His coffin was constructed at the same time ; and,
until it should be required for other and personal
purposes, was used as a wine-hin. But, to carry
his eccentricity even to the grave, he left strict
orders that he should be buried in an erect posture :
and " tradition" (of course) says that his request
was complied with. Your correspondent says that
tradition " assigns no reason for the peculiarity'*
of the Harcourt knight's burial ; but tradition has
been more explicit in Job Orton's case, whose
reason (?) for his erect posture in the tomb was,
that at the last day he might be able to rise from
his grave before his wife, who waa buried in the
usual horizontal manner I Job Orton appears to
have had a peculiar talent for the composition of
epitaphs ; as, in his more playful moments, he was
accustomed to tell his better-half that if he out-
lived her he should put the following lines on her
tombstone :
** Esther Orton— a bitter, sour weed;
God never lov*d her, nor increased her seed."
He seems, however, to have spared her this
gratuitous insult. As a farther illustration of the
characters of this singular couple, the following
anecdote is told. Esther Orton having frequently
declared, that she should " never die happy untd
she had rolled in riches,** Job, like a good hus-
band, determined to secure his wife's happiness;
Having sold some land for a thousand pounds, he
insisted that t^e money should be paid wholly in
fuinea& Taking these home in a bag, he locked
is wife up in & voonr; knocked her down, opened
his bag of guineas, and raining the golden wealth
upon her^ rolled his Danae over and over in the
coin. " And now, Esther," said Job Orton, " thee
mayst die as soon as thee pleases : for thee'st had
thy wish, and roWd in richiss'^
CUTHBEBT BbPE, B^
ukwzBBa* B^es.
(VoL vii., p. 5570
Additional evidence of the Ikct thst lawyers
used to carry green baga towsrdi tiie ond of the
60
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 194,
■eventcenth century, is to bo found in the Plain
Dealer^ a comedy by Wychorloy.
One of the principal cliaraclers in tlio play is
tbe Widow Blackacre, a petulant, litigious woman,
always in law, and mother of Jerry Blackacre, ** a
true raw souire under ago and his mother's go-
vernment, bred to the law,^*
In Act I. So. 1., I find the following stago di-
rections :
" Enter Widow Blackacre with a mantle and a ffreen
bag, and sovcrnl papers in the other hand. Jerry
Blackacre, her son, in a gown, laden with green bags,
following her."
In Act III. So. 1. the widow is called imper-
tinent and ignorant by a lawyer of whom she
demands back her feo, on his returning her brief
and declining to plead for her. This araws from
her the following reply :
** Impertinent again and ignorant to mo I Oadkbo-
dikins, you puny upstart in the law to use mo so, you
preen hag carrier, you murderer of unfortunate causes,"
&c.
Farther on, in the same scene, Freeman, a
gentleman well educated, but of a broken fortune,
a compiler with the age, thus admonishes Jerry :
'< Come, Squire, let your mother and your trees fall
as she pleases, rather than wear this gown and carry
green bags all thy life, and be pointed at for a tony.
But you shall be able to deal witii her yet the cbmmon
way. Thou shalt make false love to some lawyer's
daughter, whose father, upon the hopes of thy marrying
her, shall lend thee money and law to preserve thy
estate and trees."
A. W. S.
Temple.
PHOTGGBAPHIO CORRBSPONDBNCB.
[By the courtesy of our valued cotemporary Th9
Atnenentm, we are permitted to reprint the following
interesting communication, which appeared in that
Journal on Saturday last.]
*'KIW rHOTOORAPHIO PROCESS.
** Henley Street, July 6.
*' Your insertion of the annexed letter fVom my
brother-in-law, Mr. John StewUrt, of Pau, will
much oblige me. The utility of this mode of
reproduction seems indisputable. In reference to
its concluding paragraph, I will only add, that the
publication of concentrated microscopic editions of
works of reference — maps, atlases, logarithmic
tables, or the concentration for pocket use of pri-
vate notes and MSS., &c., &c., and innumerable
other similar applications — is brought within the
reach of any one who possesses a small achromatic
object-glass of an incn or an inch and a half in
diameter, and a brass tube, with slides before and
behind the lens of a fitting diameter to receive the
plate or plates to be operated upon, — central or
nearly central rays only being required. The de>
tails are too obvious to need mention. — I am, &o,
*' J. F. W. IIbbschbl,
« Pau, June 11.
" Dear Herschol. — I sent you some time ago a
few small-sized studies of animals from the life,
singly and in flocks, upon collodionised glass. The
great rapidity of exposition reauired for such sub*
jects, bemg but the fraction or a second, together
with the very considerable depth and harmony
obtained, gavo me reason to hopo that ere this
I should have been able to pro(iuco microsoopio
pictures of animated objects. For the present, I
nave been interrupted. Meantime, one of my
friends here, Mr. Ileilmann, following the same
pursuit, has lighted on an ingenious method of
taking from glass negatives positive impressions of
different dimensions, and with all the delicate mi^
nutencss which the negative may possess. This
discovery is likely, I think, to extend the resources
and the application of photography, — and witk
some modifications, which I will explain, to in-
crease the power of reproduction to an almost un-
limited amount. The plan is as follows : — - The
negative to be reproduced is placed in a slider at
one end (a) of a camera or other box, constructed
to exclude the light throughout. The surface pre-
pared for the reception of the positive — whether
albumen, collodion, or paper — is placed in another
slider, as usual, at the opposite extremity (c) of
the box, and intermediately between the two ex-
tremities (at b) is placed a lens. The negative at
a is presented to the light of tho sky, care being
taken that no rays enter the box but those travers-
ing the partly transparent negative. These raya
are received and directed by the lens at b upon
the sensitive surface at c, and the impression of
the negative is there produced with a rapidity pro-
portioned to the light admitted, and the sensibility
of the surface presented. B v varying the distances
between a anu c, and c and &, any dimension re*
quired may bo given to the positive impression.
Thus, from a medium-sized negative, I have ob-
tained negatives four times larger than the original^
and other impressions reduced thirty times, ca-
pable of figuring on a watch-glass, brooch, or ring.
" Undoubtedly one of the most interesting and
important advantages gained by this simple ar-
rangement is, the power of varying the dimensions
of a picture or portrait. Collodion giving results
of almost microscopic minuteness, such negatives
bear enlarging considerably without any very per-
ceptible deterioration in that respect. Indeed, as
regards portraits, there is a gain instead of a loss ;
the power of obtaining good and pleasing likenesses
appears to me decideoly increased, the facility of
suDsequent enlargement permitting them to be
taken sufficiently small, at a sufficient distance
(and therefore with greater rapidity and certainty)
July 16. 1853.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 61
to avoid all the focal distortion bo much complained b^ increase of size till the harsbness is much dilm-
of, — while thedueenlargement of a portrait taken nished, and landscapes, alv a jb more or leas un-
on glass has the effect, moreover, of depriving it pleasing on collodion from that cause, are rendered
of uiat hardoesa of outline so objectionable in a aomewhat less dry and crude,
pollodion portrait, giving it more artistic effect, " A vei^ little practice will suffice to show the
anil tbis without quitting the perfect focal point as operator the qualit7 of glaaanegatiTeg- — I mean as
has been suggested. to vigour and development — best adapted for rei
. " But there are manj other advantages obtained producing positives by this method. He will also
bj this process. For copying bj engraving, &c. the find that a great power of correction is oblainedi
exact dimensipn required of any pictnre may at by which overdone parts in the negative can be
once be given to be copied from. reduced and others brought up. Indeed, in conse-
' " A very small photographic apparatus can thus quence of this and other advantages, I have litUa
be employed when a large one might be inconve- doubt that this process nill be very generall;
nient or impracticable, the power of reproducing adopted in portrait taking.
on a larger scale being always in reserve. Inde- " Should your old idea of preserving public
peiidentoflhia power of varying the size, positives records in a concentrated form on microscopio
BO taken of the same dimension as the negative negatives ever be adopted, the immediate positive
reproduce, as will be readily understood, much reproduction on an enlarged readable scale, with-
moi-e completely the finer and more delicate details out the possibility of injury to the plate, will be
of the negatives thnn positives taken by any other of service.
process that I am acquainted with. "I am, &c. " Johh Stxwabt."
- "The negBtive also may be reversed in its position
at a ao na to produce upon glass a positive to be
seen either 'upon or under toe glass. And while J&tpTiti tO ^(lur Qucirfctf.
tlie rapidity and facility of printine are the same _, „. „. _, , .. „., , _.
as in iU oL of positiv'es taten on paper prepared ^ ^f ^"^, ^"."ff*^ O'"'-.,'"-. ?■««»■); " ^^^
with the iodide of silver, the negafiveB. th<ie on Greek Church directs that the ring be put on the
glass particularly, being eo easUy fnjured. are much ^.ght hand (Schmid Liturpk, m. 352 : Nassau,
better preserved, all actual contact with the poai- \i^^) ^ ?"^ although the Erection of the Sarum
tive being avoided. For the same reason, by this ^""«".' "" ^? "° ■"«»"» =lf" (see Palmer a Ongt^t
process ^tive impressions can be obtained not ^^t"'^^"^ "■ 213., ed 2.) such may have formerl^F
only upoVwet paper, &c., but aUo upon hard in- *'^° *« ?"?'«'« '" England, since Baatell, in bia
flexible substanoer, auch as porcelain, ivory, glass, counter- challenge to Bishop Jewel, notes it as a
&c., — and upon this last, thrpositives being trans- "O"^'? "^ '■^^ Eeformalion, —
[larent are applicable to the stereoscope, magic " That the man should put the wedJlng-ring on the
antern, &C. fourth finger in the left band of the woman, and not on
"By adopting Ihe following arrangement, this the right hand, as hath been many hundreds of years
process may be used largely to increase the power continued." — Heylyn, Hut. Smf., u. 430. Bva ed.
and speed of reproduction with little loss of effect. But the practice of the Roman communion
From a positive thus obtained, say on collodion, jn general agrees with that of the Anglican.
eeneral hundred negatives may be produced either (Schmid, iii. 350-2.) Martene quotes from an
on paper or on albumenised glass. If on the latter, ancient pontifical an order that the bridegroom
and the dimension of the original negative is pre- should place the ring successively on three fingera
served, the loss in minuteneas of detail and bar- of the right hand, and then shall leave it on the
inonj is almost imperceptible, and even when con- fourth finger of the left, in order to mark the
siderabt; enlarged, is so trilling as in tbe majority dlfierence between the marriage ring, the symbol
of cases to prove no objection in comparison witn of a love which is mixed wilh carnal affection, and
the advantage gained in size, while in not a few the episcopal ring, the symbol of entire chastity,
cases, as already stated, the picture actually ^ains (Afart de Antiquis £ccL Ritibvs, u. 128., ed. Venet.
by an augmentation of size. Thus, by the simut- 1783; Schmid, p, 3S2.) J-C. B>
taneous action. If necessary, of some hundreds of
negatives, many thousand impressions of the same The Order of Si. John of Jervtalem (Vol. vii.,
picture may be produced in the course of a day. pp. 407, 628,1. — As my old neighbour R. L. P-
" I cannot but think, therefore, ^at this simple dates from the hanks of the Lake of Constance,
but ingenious discovery will prove a valuable ad- and may possibly not see W. W.'s communication
dition to our stock of photographic manipulatory for some time, I in the meanwhile take the liberty
processes. It happily turns to account and utilises of informing W. W. that the order of St, John
eneof the chief excellencies of collodion— that ex- was restored in England by Qoeen Mary, and,
treme minuteness of detail which from its excess with other orders revived by her, was again sup-
becomes almost a defect at times,— toning it down pressed by tie act 1 Eliz, c. 24. J. C. E.
62
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. IM.
CahMi Carretpamlenee (Vol. yii., pp. 501.
631.). — It may h% well to mentioii that all tlie
letten of CalTin which Mm. Waltmb quotef, are
to be found in the old collectioa of his corre-
ipondence; perhaps, however, the latter copies
maj be fuller or more correct in some parts.
The original French of the long letter to Pro-
tector Somerset is printed by Henrj in his Lift
of Calvin ; but, like the other documents of that
laborious work, it is omitted without notice in the
English trsYestie which bears the name of Dr.
Btebbing.
Heyljn^s mis-statement as to Calvin and Cran-
mer is exposed, and the ground of it is pointed
out, in the late edition of the Ecclesia RestauratOy
▼ol. 1. p. 134. J. C. B.
Old Booty's Com (Vol. vii., p. 634.).— A friend,
on whose accuracy I can rely, has examined the
London Gazettes for 1687 and 1688, in the British
Museum : they do not contain nny report of
Booty*8 case. I thought I had laid Booty s ghost
in Vol. ill., p. 170., by showing that the foots of
the case were unlikely and the law impossible.
H. B. C.
U. U. aub.
ChaUerton (Vol. vii., p. 267.). — We nre all
werj curious m Bristol to know what evidence
or light J. M. G. of Worcester can bring to bear
upon the Rowley Poems, from the researches (as
he states) of an individual here to prove not only
that Chatterton was not their author, but that
probably the " Venerable Rowley ** himself was.
I had thought in 1853 no one doubted their
authorship. There is abundance of proof to show
Rowley could not have written them, and that
only Chatterton could hare done so.
Bbistoliknsis.
Hous€'marks, ffc. (Vol. rii., p. 594.). — It is
▼ery well known that the sign of the ^ Swan with
two Necks," in London, is a corruption of the
private mark of the owner of the swans, viz., two
nicks made by cutting the neck feathers close in
two spaces. It is also a common custom in
Devon to mark all cattle, horses, &c. with the
owner's mark when sent out on Exmoor, Dart-
■loor, and other large uninclosed tracts for sum-
mering: thus. Sir Thos. Dyke Acland*8 mark is
an anchor on the near side of each of his large
herd of ponies, on £xmoor. W. Collths.
Harlow.
BUfliagrapky CVoi, y\l, p. 597.). — The foUow-
ing may assist MxmicomyjL :
Fiseber : Beschreibong chifger Typographischer Set-
Itenheiten nebst Beytriigcii sur Erfindungsgescfaichte
dtr BucbdruckcrfcuiMt, 8vo. Maine, 1800-4.
Origin of Prhniog, in Two JEsMiyt; with Remarks
and Appendix, 8ro. 177C.
The Typographical Antiqtitties of Gff«t Britain* hf
J. Jobnion, Dr. Dibdin, Dr. Wilkins^ and otbets*
liongnuins, 18S4.
He will also find a list of works under the head
TmnnTitfo in the Pgnny Cydapmdia. Gnrnnr.
Parochial Libraries (Vol. vi., p. 433. ; VoL viL
passim,), — A parochial library was for manv
years deposited in the room over the unok
entrance of Beccles Chureh. Tho^ books consist
chiefly of old divinity, ftc, and appear to ha^r«
been ffifts from various persons; among whom
were Bishop Trimnel (of Norwich), Sir Samud
Bamardiston, Sir Edmund Bacon of Oillinffhanii
Sir John Playters, Mrs. Anna North, and Mr«
Ridgly of London. There is a copy of Walton's
Polyglot Bible, 1655-7, besides an odd volnoM
of the same work (Job to Malachi), 1656, uncut.
It is probable that many of the books have been
lost, as the room in which they were kept wM
used as a repository for discarded ecdestastieal
appliances, and, lotterly, for charity blankets du*
rmg summer. In 1840, with the consent of the
late bishop of Norwich, and of the rector and
churchwardens of the parish, the remaining
volumes (about 170) were removed to the public
library room, and placed under the care of the
committee of that institution. A catalogue oC
them was then printed. The greater part k«v«
been repaired, with the aid of a donation of 102.
from a former inhabitant, who had reason to
believe that some of the works had been lost ia
consequence of their having been in his hands
many years sgo. Are there not numerous in*
stances elsewhere in which this example might be
copied with propriety ? S. W. Rnu
Beccles.
Faith/ull rea/<? (Vol. vii., p.529.).— «*ThongIi
this author*s name be spelt Teate, there is great
reason to believe that he was the father of Nahtta
Tate, truislator of the Psalms.** — JBt^/. Anglo-
postica, p. 361. In the punning copy of verses
preceding the *' Ter Tria is this distich :
*« We wish that TeaU and Herberts may inspire
Randals and Davenants with poetick fire.
Jo. CHismm."
My copy is on miserable paper, yet priced
3\s,6d,, with this remark in MS. by some rormer
possessor : *• Very rare : which will not be won-
dered at by any one who will read five pages care*
fully." B. D.
Lack-a-daisn (VoL ri., p. 535.). — Todd had
better have allowed Johnson to speak for himself:
laek'a'daijty, lack^a'dav, alack the day, as Juliette
nurse exclaims, and ams'the'dayf are only varione
readings of the same expression. And of such in*
quiries and such soiuuons as Todd*s, I camiol
rcfiraan from expressing my sentiments in tke
July 16. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
63
9 words of poor Ophelia^ '* Alack! and fje for
shame I" Q.
Bloomsbury.
Bacon (Vol. ii., p. 247. j V(4. iii., p. 41.). — I
tliink that you have not noticed one yerj common
use of this word, as evidently meaning heechen.
Schoolboys call tops made of boxwood, boxers;
while the inferior ones, which are generally made
of beechwood, they call docoiw. H. T. ]^lst.
Angel'heast — Cteek — Longtriho (Vol. v.,
p." 559.). — ^An account of these games, the nature
of which is required by your correspondent, is
given in the Complecd Gamester, frequently re-
printed in the latter part of the seventeenth cen-
tury. The first, which is there called beast, is said
to derive its name from the French la bett, mean-
ingy no doubt, bete. It seems to have resembled
the game of loo. Gleek is the proper name of the
second game, and not check, as your correspondent
suggests. It was played by three persons, and the
cards bore the names of Tib, Tom, Tiddy, Towser,
and Tumbler. Hence we may conclude that it
was an old English game. The third game, or
lanterloo, is evidently the original form of the
game now known as loo. Its name would seem to
indicate a Dutch origin. H. T. Ku^et.
Hans Kraumnckel (Vol. ▼., p. 450.). — When
the ground in Charterhouse Square was opened in
1834, for the purposes of sewerage (I believe), vast
numbers of bones and skeletons were found, being
the remains, as was supposed, of those who died
of the Plague in 1348, and had been interred in
that spot, as forming a part of Pardon Churchyard,
which had lately been purchased by Sir Walter
Manny, for the purposes of burial, and attached
to the Carthusian convent there. Among the
bones a few galley halfpence, and other coins, were
found, as also a considerable number of abbey
counters or jettons. I do not recollect if there
was any date on the counters; but the name
"Hans Krauwinckel" occurred on some of them
which fell into my possession, and which I gave
some years ago to the Museum of the City Librarv,
Guildhall. If these were coeval, as was generally
supposed, with the Plague of 1348, it is singular
that the same name should be found on {3)bey
counters with the date 1601. I should be obliged
if any of your correspondents could inform me
when the use of jettons ceased in England ; and
whether Pardon Churchyard was used as a place
of sepulture after^l348, and, if so, how long?
H. T. KiEET.
Revolving Toy (Vol. vi., p. 517.). — The Chinese
Iiave lanterns with paper figures in them which
revolve by the heat, and are very common about
New Year time. H. B.
Bbaogbai,
Rub'a'dtib (Vol. iii.> p. 388.). — Your corre-
^ndent seems at a loss for an early instance o£
tnis expression. In Percy's Reliques there is a
8ong» the refirun or burden of which is:
** Rcib-a»dob, rub-a-dub, so beat your druras^
Tantar% tantara, the Englishman eomes."
H. T. RiLET.
Mt0fs worn by Oendemen. — In one of Gold-
smith^ Essojfs I remember well an allusion to the
practice. The writer of the letter, or essay, states
that he met his female cousin in the Mall, and after
scNDie sparring conversation, she ridicules him for
carrying " a nasty oW-fashioned [a.d. 1760] muff;"
and his retort is, that he " heartily wishes it were
a tippet, for her sake," — glancing at her dress,
which was, I suppose, somewhat what we modems
call " decolletee. E. C. G-
Detached Church Towers. — The Norman tower
at Bury St. Edmund*s should not be included in
the lists. Although now used as the bell tower of
the neighbouring church of St. James, it was
erected several centuries before the church, and
was known as the " Great Gate of the Church*
yard," or the " Great Gate of the Church of St-
fedmund." It would be very desirable to add to
the list the date of the tower, and its distance from
the church. Bubiensis.
Add to the list the modem Roman Catholic
chapel at Baltinglass, Ireland. It has a detached
tower built in a field above it, and, although de-
void of architectural beauty, is so placed that it
appears an integral part of the chapel from almost
any point of view. Alexander Lesfbb.
Dublin.
Is not the bell-tower at Hackney detached from
the church ? I do not remember that it has been
yet named by your correspondents. B. H. C.
Christian Names (Vol. vii., pp.406. 626.).— Oa
the name of Besilius Fetiplace, Sheriff of Berk*
idiure, in 26 Elizabeth, Fuller remarks, —
*< Some may 'colourably mistake it for Basilius or
Basil, whereas indeed it is Besil, a surname ....
Reader, I am confident an instance can hardly be pro*
dueed of a surname made Christian, in England, sare
since the Reformation ; before which time the priests
were scrupulous to admit any at font, except they were
baptized with the name of a Scripture or legendary
saint. Since, it hath been common ; and although the
Lord Coke was pleased to say he had noted many of
them proTe unfortunate, yet the good success in others
confutes the general truth of the observation.**^ Worthies,
y<A. i. pp. 159, 160., edit Nuttall.
«F. C. S*
Lord C. of Ireland, which Me. William Bate^
guesses to be Lord Castlereagh, was Lord Clarey
Chancellor of Ireland^ who used also to caH men
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 194.
Hogarih'i Pictares (Vol. vii. poifint). — One of
the correspondents of " N. & Q," inquires where
he could see some pictures from this great artist.
Ma; J ask if he is anarc of the three verj fine
large paintings in the Church of St. Mary, Red*
cliffe, Bristol? which I am told will shorlly be
sold. BBlBTOLIBNSia.
P.S. — They were painted for the church, and
the vestry holds hia autograph receipt for the pay-
ment of tiiem.
OM Fogif (Vol. vii., pp. 354. S59. 6320 Whe-
ther the origin of thla term be Irish, Scotch, or
Swedish I know not; but I cannot help stating
the significant meaning which, as an Edinburgh
applying it to the veterans of the Castle garrison,
to the soldiers of the Town Guard (veterans also,
and especial foes of my school-mates), and more
generally to any old and objectionable gentleman,
civil or military. It implied that, like stones which
have ceased to roll, they had obtained the pro-
verbial covering of mosj, or, as it is called in Scot'
land (probably in Ireland also), fog. I have heard
in Scotland the " Jlfos* Rose " called the ^'' Fogie
Rose ;" and there is a well-known species of the
humble bee which has its nest in a mossy bank,
and is itself clothed with a moss-like covering : its
name amoug the Scottish peasantry is the fogie
bee. G. J. F.
Bolton,
Clem (Vol. vii., p. 615.).— Mb. EBiGHti.KT
considers this word to mean preas or restrain, and
qnotes three passages from Massinger and Jonson
in support of his opinion ; admitting, however,
that it is usually rendered starve. Now, whatever
may have been the root of this word, or whence-
Boever it may have been derived, I think it must
be admitted that starve is the correct meaning of
the word in these passages. Let the reader test it
by substituting alame for clem in each case. In
Cheshire and Lancashire the word is in common
use to this day, and invariably means starved for
want of food. Of a thin, emaciated child it is
Mud, " His mother clemt him." A person exceed-
in^y hungry says, 'Tm wellv clemd; I'm almost
or well-nigh starned." It is we ordinary appeal of
Kissing Hands (Vol, vii., p. 595.). — Capb will
find in Suetonius that Caligula's hands were kissed.
forms of the Foot Guards, 1660 to 1670, 1 have to'
refer him to the Orderly-room, Horse Guards,
where he will see the costume of the three re^-
ments since they were raised. In Mackinnon'g
Histori/ of the Coldstream Ovards, he will find
that regiment's dress from the year 1650 to 1840.
C. D.
Booh Iracriptiora (yol.Yii., p. 455.). — At the
end of No. 1801. Harl. MSS. is the following :
"Hie liber eat scriptus,
Q,ui Bciipsit sit benedictus.
Qui scriptoria rnaaum
Culpat, bflsiat anum."
In the printed catalogue there is this note:
"Neotricui quidam hos scripsil venlculos, en alio
forsaa Codice depromplos."
«.^
I have not seen the following amongst your de-
precatory rhymes. It may come in with another
batch. The nature of the punishment is somewhat
different from that usually selected, and savours of
" Si quisquis furelur
This little libellum,
PerPhoebum, perjovem.
ril kill him. I'll fell taim t
I'll stick my scalpeltum,
And teach him to Meal
JMy little libelluDi.''
In a. Gesner'a Thesaurus I have the following
label of the date 1762 ;
" Ei Caroli Ferd. Hommelii Bibliotheca.
" Intra qUBtuDrdecim dies comadatum ni reddi-
Hun^mg (Vol. viiT pp. 550.631.). — I do not
remember any earlier use of this word than in
Fielding's Amelia, 17SI. Its origin is involved in
obscurity : but may it not be a corruption of the
Ijaim ambages, or the singular ablative amia^e.'
which signifies guibbliTtg, subler_fage, and that kind
of conduct which is generally supposed to consti-
tute hufnbtig. It is very possible that it may have
been pedantically introduced in the seventeenth
century. May, in his translation of Lucan, uses
the word ambages as an English word.
H. T. RiLBT.
A severe instance of the use of the term
"humbug" occurred in a court of justice. A
female in giving her evidence repeatedly used
this term. In her severe cross-examination, the
counsel (a very plain, if not an ugly person) ob-
served she had frequently used the term humbug,
and desbed to know what she meant by it, and to
July 16. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
65
have an explanation ; to which she replied, *' Why,
Sir, if I was to say you were a very handsome
man, would you not think I was humbugging
you ? ** The counsel sat down perfectly satisfied.
G. H. J.
Sir Isaac Neivton and Voltaire on Railway
Travelling (Vol. viii., p. 34.). — The passage in
Daniel alluded to is probably the following : —
" Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall
be increased," chap. xii. v. 4. Mb. Cbaig should
send to your pages the exact words of Newton
and Voltaire, with references to the books in
which the passages may be found. John Bhuce.
Engine- d'verge (Vol. vii., p. 619.). — Is not this
what we term a garden engine? The French
vergier (viridariun^ is doubtless so named, quia
virgd definita ; and we have the old English word
verge, a garden, from the same source. H. C. K.
— Rectory, Hereford.
" Populus vult decipi" ^c, (Vol. vii., p. 572.). —
The origin of this phrase is found in Thuanus,
lib. xvii. A.D. 1556. See Jackson's Works, book iii.
ch. 32. § 9. note. C. P. E.
Sir John Vanhrugh (Vol. vii., p. 619.). — Sir
John Vanbrugh was the grandson of a Protestant
refugee, from a family originally of Ghent in
Flanders. The Duke of Alva's persecution drove
him to England, where he became a merchant in
London. Giles, the son of this refugee, resided in
Chester, became rich by trade, and married the
youngest daughter of Sir Dudley Carleton, by
whom he had eight sons, of whom Sir John Van-
brugh was the second. The presumption is he
was born in Chester, but the precise date is un-
known. Anon.
Erroneous Forms of Speech (Vol. vii., pp. 329.
632.). — With regard to your two correspondents
E. G. R. and M,, I hold that, with Cowper's dis-
putants, " both are right and both are wrong."
The name of the ^Id beet is, in the language of
the unlearned, mangel-umrzel, " the root of po-
verty." It acquired that name from having been
used as food by the poor in Germany during a
time of great famine. Turning to Buchanan's
Technological Dictionary, I find, —
** Mangd-wurz^. Field beet ; a variety between the
red and white. It has as yet been only partially cul-
tivated in Britain."
In reference to the assertion of your later cor-
respondent, that " such a thing as mangel-wurzel
is not known on the Continent," I would ask if
either he or his friends are familiar with half the
beautiful and significant terms applied to English
flowers and herbs ? If he prefer using mangold
for beet, he is quite at liberty to do so, and I be-
lieve on suflSciently good authority. What says
Noehden, always a leading authority in German :
** Mangold, Red beet ; name of some other plants,
such as lungwort and sorreL'*
Mangold is here, then, a generic term, standing
for other plants equally with the beet. One sug^
gestion, however ; I would recommend the generic
term, when used at all, to be used alone, leaving
the more familiar appellation as it stands, for the
adoption of those who prefer the homely but sug-
gestive phraseology to which it belongs. E. L. H.
Devonianisms (Vol. vii., p. 630.). — Plum, adj.
I am at a loss for the origin of this word as em-
ployed in Devonshire in the sense of " soft," e. g.
" a plum bed : " meaning a soft, downy bed.
Query : Can it be from the Latin pluma ? And
if so, what is its history ?
There is also a verb to plum, which is obscure.
Dough, when rising under the influence of heat
and fermentation, is said to be plumming well ; and
the word plum, as an adjective, is used as the
opposite of heavy with regard to currant and other
cakes when baked. If the cake rises well in the
oven, it is commonly said that it is *^nice and
plum ;" and vice versa, that it is heavy.
Clunk, verb. This word is used by the com-
mon people, more especially the peasantry, to
denote the swallowing of masses of unmasticated
food ; and of morsels that may not be particularly
relished, such as fat. What is the origin of the
word ?
Dollop, subs. This word, as well as the one
last-named, is very expressive in the vocabulary
of the vulgar. It is applied to lumps of any sub-
stances, whether food or otherwise. Such a phrase
as this might be heard : *^ What a dollop of fat
you have given me!" "Well," would be the
reply, " if you don't like it, clunk it at once." I
should be glad to be enlightened as to the etymo-
logy of this term. Isaiah W. N. Keys.
Plymouth, Devon.
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fittUaM to CorrrtponVinU.
lU T«S-PIV tf OMt lii»nth VoluiM, we ari mmftltti In nmtl
AiiiDOHiHiii tmuil It rtflrrti » IlK FhllOMphkil Truiu-
tlont, »m. xllll. p.«»., Jar a rn>l)> t* *K «|iirfli. RiofUlr m0I-
«nAc Jiim, anif nn lAlrel if trtal atriaUf M tin pUlmtaJiieml
utrU. II ii not ilmlal ton' &tt lu Hurt, or wtif MircrWlea t>
Mmrl/i* o^ " drparlmnUiifllUniliirt or arl."
H. S. aHU JlHt M t»r SihbUi VoIbdm, y. 1«)., Ikt Ui
•• rctbipi II oil ilfht lo [Uucmbl* r^"'' loo." Ac,
HlMlT POUOOK."
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<■ MHJ«r, nod inrMif l*f ^(lUi «■ Ui^lfWr.
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tlino 10 liilrtir nwndi, ugorlliic lo Ufht.
of dH«ll rlT»r Lht dholoHt Itairaarnalrni-
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ACHROMATIC TBRE-
Sm, Lmooi.
July 16. 1853.] NOTES AND QUERIEa
HAMILTON'S MODERN IN- TNDIGESTIOK. COH6TIPA-
WESTERN LIFE ASSU-
EANCE iXB AKKUITY SOCIETY.
(. FAKUAHSHT STSBET, iaSDOS.
aMS.«Sd4SS.''S1Ii"iS^ QAMUEL JOHNSON. By
KMlLj cured hiDo Bmtt'i fiwd O THOMAS CAKLYlj;. Rmrinttdfnmi
n Umi — W. S. Ku-B, tml '' CiiUeiJ mud UknUuecim Gmri."
JW?
ragved bjDnBurrj't diUi
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 194.
MURRAY'S
RAILWAY READIHG.
Hill D^-. nnr uul mjHl Edllku. roit !
ANCIENT SPANISH BAL-
UlBl. ilh Wom. by JOHN aiBSON LOCK-
HABT.ESti.
A MONTH IN NORWAY,
Tl» formet Tolnnia Hi Homr'i BiUnr
IttaiUnciin-
LIFE OF LORD BACON.
E FIBMS OB iXSOVare a
fTHE C
rt MIM Iir PBOr.
fTHE THIRD GREEK BOOK;
I inaHliiiqi • Srlmiem ftom XBITO-
PHON'B CIBOFXDIA. ■Ilh EipluuUir
Num. Bfntix. uid 1 OLoauli] Indu. Bj
THE FOURTH GREEK
BOOK L or. ttw I>uL Fpnr Bwki of XENO-
il'i Chutcli Tud. Hill
Gorron. p>i«u.
FALL OF JERUSALEM. B;
DEAN HILMAM.
STORY OF JOAN OF ARC.
Btlordmabon.
LITERARY ESSAYS AND
9i THE SECOND GREEK
THE EMIGRANT. By SIR
THE ART OF DINING.
JOURNEY TO NEPADL.
THE GARDENERS' CHRO-
POPULAR ACCOUNT OF
HINEVEH. B,A.H.I>i.YABD.
BEES AND FLOWERS. Bj
"THE FORTY-FIVE," Bj
lord MiUON.
ESSA.YS FROM "THE
DEEDS of NAVAL DARING.
M^UhRLuma^toniLlKpoloht. Uop.HiLy.
LECTURES ON THE CHA-
LECTURES ON THESCRIP-
r>URKE'S(RiglitRon. Edmnnd)
HISTORY. AS A CONDI-
Tht TvBiti'-tigtiUi tMOaa.
_....„ TfTEUROTONICS, or the Art of
4GEL8- Si.flif. Il HUviatlHBbu llH NerTCB, conl^bilnf
"■™' mHiiiiifCiin&fN^T0iiiini.I>(U1ltT,Mt-
linchDlr, ud hLL Ctmnle DIkum by DK.
rpHE STORY OF CORFE
JLOABT^tUdiDf Buy whs lun ilrcA
rjfumiJtMaA^n In UitTI^ ofSliciriT
7*n, irUEliliid«ile nuloui cutkiilui of ibc
Obnrt of Chu-la I., when u Voik, and nftac-
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flEonae BANxea. h.f.
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A mm* M INTlJn-OOllllVKIOATIOI)
imilAllY MKN, ARTISTS, ANTtUUAniKS, nKNKAlnaiBTS,, KTC.
■ ■ BMa Cr*' V OAttAItt CufTtil.
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lIuH irnty li* N>«i||itt<it Id Kl'inil ll'nl <In1«i
70
NOTES AND QUERIES.
tNo. 195.
a fanciful picture of Charity supported by angels ;
second, a view of Highgate Charity Schools (Dor-
chester House) ; third, Time with his scythe and
hour-glass*; and the fourth, in three compart-
ments, the centre containing butterflies; the
smaller at top and bottom, sententious allusions
to the value of time — " Time drops pearles from
Lis golden wings," &c. These are respectable en-
gravings, but by whom executed I know not.
After these, and before coming to the Silver Drops,
which are perhaps something akin to Master
Brooks' Apples of Gold^ the book begins abruptly :
" The Ladies* Charity School- house Roll of High-
gate, or a subscription of many noble well-disposed
ladies for the easie carrying of it on." " Being
well informed," runs the Prospectus, " that there
is a pious, good, commendable work for main-
ts^ning near forty poor or fatherless children,
born all at or near Highgate, Hornsey, or Ham-
sted : we, whose names are subscribed^ do engage
or promise, that if the said boys are decently
cloathed in blew, lined with yellow ; constantly
fed all alike with good and wholsom diet ; taught
to. read, write, and cast accompt^, and so put out
to trades, in order to live another day ; then we
will give for one year, two or three (if we well
like the design, and prudent management of it,)
once a year, the sum below mentioned," &c. The
projector of this good work was th« subject of my
present note ; and after thus introducing it, the
worthy " woollen-draper, at the sign of the Golden
Boy, Maiden Lane, Covent Garden,'' for s\ich he
was, goes on to recommend and (enforce its im-*
Eortance in a variety of caj oiling addresses, or, as
e calls them, "charity-school sticks," to the great
and wealthy ; ostensibly the production of the
boys, but in reality the concoctions of Mr. Blake,
and in which he pleads earnestly for his hohhy.
In An Essay, or Hvmhle Oue;^, how the Noble
Ladies may he inclined to give to and encottrage
their Charity-school at Highgate, Mr. Blake farther
humorously shows, up the various dispositions of
his fair friends : — " And first," says he, " my lady
such-a-one cryed. Come, we will make one purse
out of our family;" and "my lady such-an-one
said she would give for the fancy of the Roll and
charity stick. My lady such-an-one cryed by her
troth she would give nothing at all, for she had
[♦ It appears, from the following advertisement at
the end of Silver Drops, that the plates of Time and
Charity were used as receipts: — "It is humbly de-
sired, that what you or any of you, most noble Ladles,
Gentlewomen, or others, are pleased to bestow or give
towards this good or great design, that you would be
pleased to take a receipt on the backside of Time or
Charity, sealed with three scales, namely, the Trea-
surer's, Housekeeper's, and Register's ; and it shall be
fairly recorded, and hung up in the school-house, to be
read of all from Time to Time, to the world's end, we
hope."— Ed.]
waies enough for her money ; while another vrould
give five or six stone of beef every week." Again,
in trying to come at the great citizen -ladies, he
magnifies, in the following characteristic style, the
city of London ; and, by implication^ their noble
husbands and themselves: — " There is," says Mr.
Blake, " the Tower and the Monument ; the <^d
Change, Gurld-Hall, and Black wall- Hall, which
some %oo%ddfain hum again ; there is Bow steeple,
the Holy Bible, the Silver Bells of Aaron, thegodlg'
outed ministers; the melodious musick of the
Gospels ; Smithfield martyrs yet alive ; and the
best society, the very best in all the world for
civility, loyalty, men, and manners ; with the
greatest cash, bulk, mass, and stock of all sorts of
silks, cinnamon, spices, wine, gold, pearls, Spanish
wool! and cloaths ; with the river Nilus, and the
stately ships of Tarshish to carry in and out the
great merchandizes of the world." In this the city
dames are attacked collectively. Individually, he
would wheedle them thus into his charitable plans :
— " Now prayy dear madam, speak or write to my
lady out M mend, and tell her how it is with us;
and if she will subscribe a good gob, and get the
young ladies to do so too; and then put in alto-
gether with your lordship's aitd Sir James's also :
for it is necessary he or you in his stead should do
something, novo the great ship is come safe in, and
by giving some cf the ^rst-fruits of your great bay,
or netp p^ntatiom, to our school, the rest unll be
blessed the hetterr The scheme seems to Lave
offered attractions to the Highgate gentry: —
*^ The great ladies do allow their house-keeper,"
he continues, ** one bottle of wine, three of ale,
half a dozen of rolls, and two dishes of meat
a- day ; who is to see the wilderness, orchard, great
prospects, walks, and gardens, all well kept and
rolled for their honours' families; and to give
them small treats according to discretion when
they please to take the air, which is undoubtedly
the best round London." Notwithstanding the
eloquent pleadings of Mr. Blake for their assist-
ance and support, it is to be feared that the noble
ladies allowed the predictions of his friends to be
verified, and did " suffer such an inferiour meane
and little person (to use his own phraseology) to
sink under tiie burden of so good and great a
work : " for we find that Gough, in allusion thereto,
says (Topographical Anecdotes, vol. i. p. 644«) : —
** This Hospital at Highgate, called the Ladies*
Charity School^ was erected by one W. Blake, a
woollen -draper in Covent Garden ; who having pur-
chased Dorchester House, and having fooled away his
estate in building, was thrown into prison."
Even here, and under such circumstances, our
subject was nothing daunted; for the same
autnority informs us, that, still full of his philan-
thropic projects, he took the opportunity his lei-
sure there admitted to write another work upon
his favourite topic of educating and caring for the
July 23. 1853,]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
71
poor ; its title is, The State and Ctue of a JDesign
for the better Education of Tkotaands of Parish
Children successively in the vast Northern Suburbs
of London vindicated^ Sfc. Besides the ftbore^
there is another remarkable little piece whteh I
Lave seen, beginning abruptly, *' Here fblloweth a
briefe exhortation which I gave in mj owne house
at mj wife*8 fimerall to our friends then present,"
hy Blake, with the MS. date, 16^0 ; and exhibits
this original character in another not less amiable
light : — ** I was brought up," says he, " by my
parents to learne Hail Mary^ paternoster^ tfaie
Beliefe, and learne to reade ; and where I served
my apprenticeship little mcu'e was to be found."
He attributes it to God^s grace that he fell a
reading the Practice of Piety, by which means he
got a little persuading of God's love to his soul : —
*' Well, my time being out, I set up for myselfe ;
and seeking out for a wife, which, with long waiting
and difficulty, much expence ami charge, at last I
got. Four children God gave me by her ; but he
liath taken them and her all again too, who was a
woman of a thousand." Mr. B. then naturally
indulges in a panegyric upon this pattern of wives,
and reproaches himself for his former insensibility
to her surpassing merits: relating with sreat
nawetS some domestic passages, with examp&s of
her piety and trials, in one of which latter the
^nemy would tempt her to suicide : — "There lie
your garters," said he ; "but she threw them aside,
4ind so escaped this will of the Devil."
In conclusion, let me inquire if your Highgate
correspondents are cognisant of any existing in-
>stltution raised upon the foundation of William
Blake*s Charity School at Dorchester House ?
J.O.
[Our correspondent's interesting eommunieation
suggests a Query : Is there any biographical notice of
William Blake ; and was be the author of the following
piece, preserved among the Kings* pamphlets in the
British Museum ? " The Condemned Man's Reprieve,
or God's Love- Tokens, flowing in upon the heart of
William Blake, a penitent sinner, giving him assur-
ance of the pardon of his sins, and the enjoyment of
eternal happiness through the merits of Christ his
Saviour. Recommended by him (being a condemned
prisoner for manslaughter within the statute) unto his
fiister, and bequeathed unto her as a legacy.*' It is
•dated from " Exon Jayle,*' June 25, 1653, and was pub-
lished July 14, 1653."— Ed.]
A POEM BT SHSLLEY, NOT IN HIS WORKS.
The following poem was published in a South
Carolina newspaper in the 3rear 1839. The per-
son who communicates it states that it was among
the papers of a deceased friend, in a small packet,
endorsed "A letter and two poems written by
Shelley the poet, and lent to me by Mr. Tre-
lawoey la 1823. I ww prevented iron rotunung
them to him, for which I am sorry, nnce this is
the only copy of them — they have never been
published." Upon this poem was written, "Given
to me by Shelley, who composed it as we were
sailing one evening together." Uneda.
Philadelphia.
« The Calm.
« Hush ! hark ! the Triton calls
From his hollow shell,
And the sea is as smooth as a well ;
For the winds and the waves
In wild order form.
To rush to the halls
And the crystal-roord caves
Of the deep, deep ocean,
To hold consultation
About the next storm.
** The moon sits on the sky
Like a swan sleeping
On the stilly lake :
No wild breath to break
Her smooth mcusy light
And ruffle it into beams :
*< The downy clouds droop
Like mo^s upon a tree ;
And in the earth's bosom grope
Dim vapours and streams.
The darknesa is weeping,
Oh, most silently 1
Without audible sigh,
All is noiseless and bright.
** Still *tis living silence here.
Such as fills not with fear.
Ah, do you not hear
A humming and purring
All about and about ?
'Tis from souls let out,
From their day-prisonff freed,
And joying in release.
For no slumber they need.
** Shining through this veil of peace.
Love now pours her omnipresence,
And various nature
Feels through every feature
The joy intense,
Yet so pagsionless.
Passionless and pure ;
The human mind restless
Long could not endure.
** But hush while I tell.
As the shrill whispers flutter
Through the pores of the sea,—*
Whatever they utter
I'll interpret to thee.
King Neptune now craves
Of his turbulent vassals
Their workings to quell ;
And the billows are quiet,
Thov^h thinking on riot.
On the left and the right
In ranks they are coil*d upi .^ .
NOTES AND QUERIBa
[Na 193.
Like make* on the plain ;
And each one liai loli'd up
A bright flasliing streak
Of the whiu moonlight
On hii g1as9x green neck :
On every one'* forehead
There glitlera a star,
With a hairy train
Orlight^oatiny/mni afar.
And pale or fiery red.
How old Eolua goes
To each muttering blast.
Scattering blavg :
And some he bindi fiist
In hollow rocks vast,
Wiih thick lieay; foam.
< Twing Ihem round
The sharp rugged crags
That are slicking out Dear,'
Grovls he, ' ftir tine
They all should rebef.
And so play bell.'
Those that he bound.
Their prison-walls grasp.
And through the dark glooin
Scream fierce and jell;
While all the rest gasp^
In rage fruitless and vain.
Their shepherd nov leaves them
To howl and lo roar—
Of bis presence hereatce them.
To fiei sotne young breeze-
On the violet odour.
Andtt
sach it
I find no record that "the stem old solilier,"
who waa then fortr-two years of nge, and whom
the writer oddlj calls Richari] II., had any reason
to complain of want of Kenl in hia troops. They
fought well, and flogced well — if they flogged at
all. Richard died of gangrene in the shoulder;
and I hare the authority of an eminent phyBician
for Baying, that gnngrene, so near the vital parta,
would produce such mental and bodily prostra-
tion, that it ig highly improbable that the patient,
unless in delirium, should give such an order,
and impoBsible that be should live through its
To rock tl
THE IHF08aniU.ITIE3 Of HISTORT.
In The Tablet of June 18 is a leading article
on the proposed erection of Baron Marochetti'a
statue of Richard Coiur de Lion, Theolony and
history are mixed; of course I shall carefully ex-
clude the former. I have tried to trace the state-
ments to their sources ; and where I have failed,
perhaps some of your readers may be able to help
« When the physicians told him thut they could do
nothing more for him, and when his confessor Iind
done his duly faiihfolly and wiib all honesty, the slern
old soldier commanded his attendants to take him off
the bed, and lay him naked on the bare floor. When
this was done, he then bade ihem take a discipline
and scourge liitn with all their might. This was the
last command of their royal masier; and in this he
was obeyed with more zeal than he (bund displayed
when at the bead of bis troops in Palestine."
Hume and Linsard do not allude to the " disci-
pline ;" and the sdence of the latter is important.
Henry eays :
" Having eipresaed great penitence for bis vices, and
having undergone a very severe discipline from the
hands of the clergy, who altended him in iiis last nW'
menH,"&c — Vol. iii. p. 161. ed. 1777,
He Cites Brompton, and there I find the penanw
given much atronger than in The Tahiti:
" PiBcepitque pedes sibi iigari. et in altum suspendl
nudumijue corpus flagellis ciedi el lacerari, donee ipse
pTBciperat lit silerent. Cumque diu ciedereTur, ex pre-
eepto, ad modicum siluerunt, Et spiritu iterum
reassumplo, hoe idem secundo sc terlio in abundanlia
sanguinis com plevenmt. Tamdiu inse revertens, aflerri
contra dominum suum ligatis pedibus fune trahi."
This is taken from Brompton'g Chronicle in De-
cent Seriptoret Historic Aiiglicana, 1652, p. 1279.,
edited by Selden, As Broraplon lived in the
reign of Edward III., be is not a high authority
upon any matter in that of Richard I. I cannot
find any other. Hoveden and Knyghton are silent.
Is the fact stated elsewhere ? Hoveden states,,
and the modern historians follow him, that aller
the king's death, Marchader seized the archer,
flayed him alive, and then hanged him. Sly
medical authority says, that no man could be-
flayed alive: and that the most skilful operator
could not remove the skin of one arm from the
elbow to the wrist, before Ihe pntient would die
from Ihe shock to his system.
Mi\ Riley, in a note on the passage in Hoveden,
cites from the Winchesler Chronicle a possible
account of Gurdum being tortured to death. The
historian of The Tablet, in the same article, snya :
" We are far from attributing absolute perfection to
the son of Henry II.. one of [hat aivful race popularly
believed to be descended fiom the devil. When
Henry, as a boy, practising Whiggery by revolting
Court of the King of France, the saint looked at bim
with a son of terror, and said, • From the Devil you
came, and to the Detil you will go,' "
The fact that Henry II. rebelled against his
father is not given in any history which I have
JuLT 23. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
73
read; and the popular belief in the remarkable
descent of Henry, and consequently of our present
Toyal family, is quite nevr to me, and to all of
whom I have inquired. Still, finding that the
"writer had an authority for the " discipline," he
may have one for the Devil. If so, I should like
to know it ; for I contemplate something after the
example of Lucian*s Quomodo Historia sit con'
scribenda, H. B. C.
U. U. Club.
«
QUEM DEUS YULT FEBDEBB PBIUS DEMENTAT.
»f
Having disposed of the allegation that the
Oreek Iambic,
was from Euripides, by denying the assertion, I
s,m also, on farther investigation, compelled to
•deny to him also the authorship of the cited pas-
sage.
<(
orety 8e Aaifioty dy^pl xoptritrri iraic^, rhv vovp il€\aipt
vpinoy,**
Its fii*st appearance is in Barnes, who quotes it
from Athenagoras " sine auctoris nomine." Car-
nieli includes it with others, to which he prefixes
the observation,-—
** A me piacque come al Bamesio di porle per disteso,
«d a canto mettervi la traduzlone in nostra faveila, senza
entrnre trallo tratto in quistioni inutili, te alcuni versi
appartengano a Tragedia di Euripide, o no,**
There is, then, no positive evidence of this pas-
sage having ever been attributed, by any competent
scholar, to Euripides. Indirect proof that it could
not have been written by him is thus shown : — In
the Antigone of Sophocles (v. 620.) the chorus
fiings, according to Brunck,—
** ^^Iq, yhp l«c TOW
k\uvov ttfos Tr4<f>can(u'
Th Kcuchv Sofcciy tot* iffOKhy
r^5' l/tjucv, 0T<p <l>pevas
Bfhs &yu vphs &Tav
irpdo'oeiy 8* 6?<iyo(rThy XP^^^ herbs &ras,^
<* For a splendid saying has been revealed by the
wisdom of some one : I1iat evil appears to be good to
him whose mind God leads to destruction ; but that hs
•( God) practises this a short time without destroying such
a one J*
Now, had Barnes referred to the scholiast on the
Antigone, or remembered at the time the above-
cited passage, he would either not have omitted
the conclusion of his distich, or he would at once
have seen that a passage quoted as "^c rov^ of some
otie" by Sophocles, seventeen years the senior of
Euripides, could not have been the original com-
position of his junior competitor. The conclusion
of the distich is thus given by the old scholiast :
** Zray 8* 6 Aaifuay dyZpl itopaiyyf kok^
rhv yovy H\w^%irpS»Tov f fiov\%{t%TaC*
The words "when he wills it" being lefl out by
Barnes and Garmeli, but which correspond with
the last line of the quotation from Sophocles.
The old scholiast introduces the exact quotation
referred to by Sophocles as " a celebrated (noto-
rious, holiiiiov) and splendid saying, revealed by
the wisdom of some one, fiera aotpias yap 6r6 rtyos.^*
Indeed, the sentiment must have been as old as
Paganism, wherein, whilst all voluntary acts are
attributed to the individual, all involuntary ones
are ascribed to the Deity. Even sneezing was so
considered: hence the phrase common in the lower
circles in England, "Bless us," and in a higher
grade in Germany, "Gott segne euch," which
form the usual chorus to a sneeze.
The other scholiast, Triclinius, explains the pas-
sage of Sophocles by saying, "The gods lead to
error (0\a€riy) him whom they intend to make
miserable (Bwrruxf^y) : hence the application to
Antigone, who considers death as sweet."
T. J. BUCKTON.
Lichfield.
SHAKSPEABB COEBBSPONDSNCB.
A Passage in ^^The Taming of the Shrew.** -^
Perhaps I mistake it, but Mb. C. Mansfieu>
Inglebt seems to mc to write in a tone as if he
fancied I should be unwilling to answer his ques-
tions, whether public or private. Although I am
not personally acquainted with him, we have had
some correspondence,' and I must always feel that
a man so zealous and intelligent is entitled to the
best reply I can afford. I can have no hesitation
in informing him that, in preparing what he terins
my " monovolume Shakspeare," 1 pursued this
plan throughout ; I adopted, as my foundation, the
edition in eight volumes octavo, which I completed
in 1844; that was "formed from an entirely new
collation of the old editions," and my object there
was to give the most accurate representation of
the text of the folios and c^uartos. Upon that
stock I engrafted the manuscript alterations in my
folio 1632, in every case in which it seemed to
me possible that the old corrector might be right —
in short, wherever two opinions could be enter*
tained as to the reading : in this way my text in
the "monovolume Shakspeare" was "regulated
by the old copies, and by the recently discovered
folio of 1632."
Mb. Inglebt will see that in the brief preface
to the "monovolume Shakspeare," I expressly
say that " while a general similarity (to the folio
1632) has been preserved, care has been taken to
rectify the admitted mistakes of the early impression^
and to introduce such alterations of a corrupt and
imperfect text, as were warranted by better au-
thorities. Thus, while the new readings of the
old corrector of the folio 1632, considerably ex-
ceeding a Uiousand, are duly inserted in the places
74
TTOTES JtND XIUERTE&
[No. 1«5.
to wUch tbej belong, the old readings, wkidi,
durii^ the last century and a half^ haye recom-
mended themselves for adoption, and bare been
derived from a comparison of ancient printed
editions, have also been incorporated.** I do not
know how I could have expressed myself with
greater clearness ; and it was merely for the sake
of distinctness that I referred to the result of my
own labours in 1842, 1843, and 1844, during which
years my eight volumes octavo were proceeding
through the press. Those labours, it will be seen,
essentially contributed to lighten my task in pre-
paring the " monovolume Shakspeare.^
My answer respecting the passage in The
Taming of the Shrew, referred to by Ma. Inglbbt,
will, I trust, be equally satisfactory ; it shall be
equally plain.
I inserted ambler, because it is the word sub-
stituted in manuscript in the margin of my folio
1632. I adopted mercaiante, as proposed by
Steevens, not only because it is the true Italian
word, but because it exactly fits the place in the
verse, mercatant (the word in the folios) being a
syllable short of the required number. In the
very copy of Florio's Italian Dictionary, which I
bought of Kodd at the time when I purchased my
folio 1632, I find mercatante translated by the
word "marchant,** "marter,** and "trader,**
exactly the sense required. Then, as to " surely **
instead of surly, I venture to tliink that ^ surely **
is the true reading :
" In gait and countenance surely like a father.**
** Surely like a father *' is certainly like a father ;
and although a man may be surly m his ** counte-
nance,** I do not well see how he could be surly in
bis " gait ; ** besides, what had occurred to make
the pedant surly f This appears to me the best
reason for rejecting surly in favour of *• surely ;*'
but I have another, which can hardly be refused
to an editor who professes to follow the old copies,
where they are not contradicted. I allude to the
folio 1623, where the line stands precisely thus :
** In gate and countenance surely like a Father."
!rhe folio 1632 misprinted " surely ** swiy, as, in
Julms Casar^ Act I. Sc. 3., it committed the op-
poute blunder, by misprinting "surly** surely.
Another piece of evidence, to prove that " surely **
'was the poet*8 word in The Taming of Ike Shrew,
has comparatively recently fallen in my way; I did
not know of its existence in 1844, or it would have
been of considerable use to me. It is a unique
/quarto of the play, which came out some years
before the folio 1623, and is not to be confounded
with the quarto of The Taming of the Shrew, with
the date of 1631 on the title-page. This new
authority has the line exactly as it is given in the
fcdio 1623, which, in truth, was printed firom it.
]^ is now before me. J. JPayns Collibb.
July 10.
CriHetd Digest of various Readings in Ike Worhs
of Shakspeare, — There is much activity in the lite-
Taiy world just now about the text of Shakspeare :
but one moat essential w(»rk, i& reference to that
text, still remains to be perfcMrmed, — I mean, the
pubUeation of a complete digest of aU the varioiis
readings, in a concise shape, such as those whidi we
possess in relation to tlie MSS. and other edttUNis
of nearly every classical author.
At present, all editions of Shakspeare which
claim to be considered critical, contain much loose
information on readings, mixed up with notes
(frequently very diffuse) on miscellaneous tojHCS.
This is not in the least what we require : we need
a regular digest of readings, wholly distinct from
long debates about their value.
"What I mean will be plain to any one who is
familiar witib any good critical edition of the
Greek New Testament, or with such books as
€raisfbrd*s Herodotus, ihe. Berlin Aristotle, the
Zurich Plato, and the like. We ought to have,
first, a good text of Shakspeare: such as wxj
represent, as fairly as possible, the real results of
the labours of the soundest critics ; and, secondly,,
page by page, at the foot of that text, the follow-
ing particulars :
I. All the readings of the folios, which should
be cited as A, B, C, and D.
II. All the readings of the quartos, which might
be cited separately in each play that possesses
them, either as a, b, c, d ; or as 1, 2, 3, and 4.
III. A succinct summary of all the respectable
criticisms, in the way of conjecture, on the text.
This is especially needed. The recent volumes of
Messrs. Collier, Singer, and Dyce, show that even
editors of Shakspeare scarcely know the history of
all the emendations. Let their precise pedigree be
in the last case recorded with the most absolute
brevity ; simply the suggestion^ and the names of
its proposers and adopters.
IV. To simplify this last point, a new siglation
might be introduced to denote the various critical
editions.
Such a publication should be kept distinct from
any commentary ; especially from one laid out in
the broad fiat style of modern editors. Mr. Ckd*
Iier*8 v<^ume of Emendations, ipc., for instance,
need not have occupied half its present space, if
he had first denoted his MS. corrector by some
short symbol^ instead of by a lei^thy phrase;
and, secondly, introduced his suggestions by dome
such formularies as those employed in claswcal
criticisms, instead of toiling laboriously afler vari-
ations in his style of expression, till we are wearied
b^ the real iteration which lies under the seeming
diversity.
^ There should be none of this phrasework in the
digest which I recommend. If indeed it were
found absolutely necessary to connect it with a
commentary, then arrange the two portions of the
July 23. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
75
apparatus as ia Arnold*! edttt^n of Thucydidet:
the vari<B UcHonet in the middle of the page, and
the comment in a different type below it. But
I repeat^ it would be better still to give us the
digest without the comment. All would go into
one large volume. And it caimot be doubted
that sudi a volume, if thoroughly well done, would
furnish at once a sort of textus reeeptus^ and a
critical basis, from which future editors might
commence their labours. It would also be an
indispensable book of reference to all who treat of,
or are interested in, the poet*s text. Such, I say,
would be its certain proi^ects if the editor were
at once an accurate, painstaking scholai*, and a
man of true poetical feeling. The labour would
be great, but so would be the reward. It is only
what the ablest scholars have proudly undertaken
for the classics, even in the face of toils far more
severe. Would that Mr. Dyce could be roused
to attempt it ! B.
[Some such edition as that alluded to by our corre-
spondent has been long desired and eonteraplated. A
proposal in connexion with it has been afloat for some
time past, and we had hoped would have been pidblidy
made in our pages before now. There are difficulties
in the way which do not exist in the parallel uastanees
from classical literature, and which do not seem to have
occurred to our correspozkdent ; but the project is in
good bands, and we hope vlU soon be brought to
bear. — Ed.]]
Emendaiions of Shdkspeare. — I am sadly afraid,
what with one annotates* and another, that we,
in a very little time, shall have Shakspeare so
modernised and weeded of his peculiarities, that
he will become a very second-rate sort of a per-
son indeed; for I now see with no little alarm,
that one of his most delightful quaintnesses is
to give way to the march of refinement, and
be altogether ruined. Hazlitt, one the most
original and talented of critics, has somewhere
said, that there was not in any passage of Shak-
speare any single word that could be changed to
one more appropriate, and as an instance he gives
a passage from macbeth^ which certainly is one of
the most perfect and beautiful to be found in the
whole of his works :
*' This castle hath a pleasant seat ; the air
Nimbly and sweetly recommends itself
Unto our gentle senses.
This guest of summer.
The temple-haunting martlet, does approve
By his loved mansionry, that the heaven*s breath
Smells wooingly here : no jutty, frieze, buttress;
Nor coin of vantage, but this bird hath made
His pendent bed, and procreant cradle : where they
Most breed and haunt, I have observed, the air
Is delicate.**
There are some who differ from Hazlitt in the
preieBt day, and assert that there is an error in
the press in Dogberry's reproof of Borachio for
calling him an '^ ass." The passage as it stands is
as follows :
** I am a wise fellow ; and whieh is viore, an officer,
and which is more, a Juyuseholder, and which is more, as
pretty a piece of flesh as any is in Messina, and one
that knows the law, go to ; and a rich fellow enough,
go to ; and a fellow that bath had hssesf and one iJtaX
hath two gowns, and everythii^ handsome about him."
His having had losses evidently meaning, though
he was then' poor, that his circumstances were at
one time so prosperous, that he could afford to
hear losses ; and he, even then, had a superfluity
of wardrobe in ** two gowns, and everything hand-
some about him." But this little word losses^ the
perfect Shakspearian quaintness of which is uni-
versally acknowledged, is to be changed into
lecLS€9 ; if it should be leases^ how is it that it does
not follow upon " householder," instead of being
introduced so many words after ? as, if leases were
the proper word, it would assuredly have sug-
gested itself immediately as an additional item to
his respectability as a householder : for a moment
only fancy similar corrections to be introduced in
others of Shakspeare's plays, and Falstaff be made
to exclaim at the robbery at Gad's Hill, " Down
with them, they dislike us old men," instead of
" they hate us youth ;" for Falstaff was no boy at
the time, and this might be advanced as an au-
thority for the emendation. But seriously, if this
alteration is sent forth as a specimen of the im-
provements about to be effected in Shakspeare,
from an edition of his plays lately discovered, I
shall, for one, deeply regret that it was ever ret-
cued from its oblivion ; for witb my prejudices
and prepossessions against interpolations, and in
favour of old readings, I shall find it no ea&y
matter to reconcile my mind to the new. Strip
history of its romance, and you deprive it of its
principal charm ; the scenery of a play-house im-
poses upon us an illusion, and though we know it
to be so, it is not essential that the impression
should be removed. I remember once trav^li^g
at night in Norfolk, and a part of my way was
through a wood, at the end of which I came upon
a lake lit up by a magnificent moon. I subse-
quently went the same road by day : the wood, I
Uien found, was a mere belt of trees, and the Idke
had dwindled to a duck- pond. I have ever sinoe
wished that the first impression had remained UBr
ehanged; but this is a digression. There b bo
author so universal as Shakspeare, and would that
be the case if he was not thoroughly understood?
He is appreciated alike in the closet and on tbe
stage, quoted by saints and sages, in the pulptt
and the senate, and your nostrum-monger «A-
vertises his wares with a quotation from his pages;
does he then require interpreting who is his owa
interpreter ? Johnson says of lum that —
** Panting Time toil'd after him in vain.**
76
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 195.
And that he —
** Exhausted worlds and then imagined new.**
There is no passion that he has not pourtrayed,
and laid bare in its beauty or deformity ; no feel*
ing or affection to which his genius has not given
the stamp of immortality : and does he want an
interpreter ? It is treading on dangerous ground
to attempt to improve him. Even Mb. Knight,
enthusiast as he is in his veneration for Shak-
speare, and who, by his noble editions of the poet*s
works, has won the admiration and secured the
gratitude of every lover of the poet, has gone too
far in his emendations when he changes a line in
Romeo and Juliet from
to
** Hence will I to my ghostly father*s cell.
ft
** Hence will I to my ghostly friar*s close cell.**
As in the latter case the line will not scan unless
the word ^^ friar" be reduced to a monosyllable,
which, on reflection, I think Mb. Knight will be
inclined to admit. But my paper is, I fear, ex-
tending to a limit beyond which you have occa-
sionally warned your correspondents not to go,
and I must therefore draw my remarks to a close,
with a hope that not any offence will be taken
where none is intended by those to whom any of
my observations may apply. Geobge Blink.
Canonbury.
"the dance of death."
Amongst the numerous emblematic works, it
has often appeared to me that the above work
should be republished entire ; to give any part of
it would be spoiling a most admirable series. I
should desire to see it executed not as a fac-simile,
but improved by good modern artists. The his-
tory of " The Dance of Death " is too long and too
obscure to enter upon here ; but from the general
tenor of the accounts and criticisms of the work,
it does not appear to have originated at all with
Hans flolbein, or even his father, who also really
painted it at Basil, in Switzerland, but to have
had its origin in more remote times, as quoted
in several authors, that anciently monasteries
usually had a painted representation of a Death's
Dance upon the walls. It is a subject, therefore,
open to any artist, nor could it be said he had
pirated anything if he treated the subject after
his own fashion. *' The Dance of Deatn " begins
of course with king, the queen, the bishop, the
'yer, the lovers, &c., and ends with the child,
wuom Death is leading away from the weeping
ther. The original plates of Hollar, from
uulbein^s drawings, are possibly still extant, but
they are by no means perfect, although admirable
in expression. The deaths or skeletons are very
ill-drawn as to the anatomical structure, and were
they better the work would be excellent. The
Death lugging off the fat abbot is inimitable ; and
the gallant way he escorts the lady abbess out the
convent door is very good. I have the engravings
by Hollar, and have made some of the designs
afresh, intending to lithograph them at some
future day ; but there being thirty subjects in all,
the work would be a difficult task. Mr. J. B.
Yates might, indeed, with his excellent collection
of Emblemata, revive this old and beautiful taste
now in abeyance : it is now rarely practised by
our painters. There is, however, a very fine
picture in the Royal Academy Exhibition, by
Mr. Goodall, which is, strictly speaking, an emblem,
though the artist calls it an historical episode.
Now it appears to me an episode cannot be re-
duced into a representation ; it might embrace a
complete picture in writing, but as I read the
picture it is an emblem, and would have been still
more perfect had the painter treated it accord-
ingly. The old man at the helm of the barge
misht well represent Strafibrd, because, though he
holds the tiller, he is not engaged in steering
right, his eyes are not directed to his port
Charles himself, rightly enough, has his back to the
port, and is truly not engaged in manly aflTairs,
nor attending to his duty ; but the sentiment of
frivolity here painted cannot, I should say, attach
itself to him, for he is not to be reproached with
idling away his time with women and children, as
this more strictly must be laid to his son. But
the port where some grim-looking men are se-
riously waiting for him, completes a very happy
and poetical idea, but incomplete as an emblem,
which it really is ; and were the emblematic rules
more cultivated, it would have told its story much
better.
At present, the taste of the day lies in more
direct caricature, and our volatile friend Punch
does the needful in his wicked sallies of wit, and
his fertile pencil. His sharp rubs are perhaps
more effective to John BulFs temper, who can take
a blow with Punch's truncheon and bear no malice
after it, — the heavy lectures of the ancients are
not so well suited to his constitution.
Weld Tatlob.
Bayswater.
Old Lines newly revived, — The old lines of
spondees and dactyls are just now applicable : —
** Contikrbabantiir Constantinop511tanl
InntimSrablllbus sollcltudiaibus. *'
W. COLI.TN8.
Harlow.
Inscription near Cirencester, — In Earl Bathurst*s
park, near Cirencester, stands a building — the
resort in the summer months of occasional pic-nic
parties. During one of these visits, at which I
Jdlt 23. 1853.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
NOTES AMD QUEKIEa [Jfo. IM.
JtTLT 23. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
79
passage : " They bought herrings during the sea-
son, and then departed, as those Jishermen which
kill fish at Wardhouse do use to do atpresent^^
Where was Wardhouse, and wAat was the
custom there ? ^ C J. P.
Great Yiirtiiouth.
^' Adrian tunCd the bull,''* — In an old MS. in
my possession, the following verse occurs : —
** Of whate'er else yonr head be full.
Remember Adrian turn'd the bull ;
''Tis time that you should turn the diase.
Kick out the knave and take the place.*'
Would any of the correspondents of " N. & Q."
be so good as to explain to me the reference in
the second line of ihe verse ? G. M.
Carifs ^^Palavlogia Chronical — I have an old
book entitled :
" Palaeologia Chronica ; a Gironologlcal Account of
Ancient Time. Performed by Robert Gary, D.LL.,
Devon. London : printed by J. Darby, for Richard
Chiswell, at the Rose And Crown in St. Faults Church
Yard, 1677."
rand shall be glad to be informed whether the
author was any relation of Dr. Valentine Carey,
who was consecrated bishop of Exeter in 1620,
and died in 1626. (See Walton's Life of Dr.
Donne.') Chsis. Robebts.
Bradford, Yorkshire. •
The Southwarh Pudding Wonder. — ^I have been
very much pleased with tne perusal of a collection
of MS, letters, written by the celebrated anti-
quary William Stukeley to Maurice Johnson, Esq.,
tne founder of the Gentlemen's Society at Spald-
ing. These letters have not been published; the
MSS. exist in the library of the Spalding Society.
They contain much interesting matter, and fur-
nish many traits of the manners, character, and
modes of thinking and 4kcti»g ^ their respected
author.
Can an^ of your readers explain the meaning of
the following passage, whsck is found in a letter
dated 19th June, 1718: '' The Sautkieark Fkdding
wonder is over ? "
In the same letter the Dr. alludes to a con-
tested election for the office of €3iamberlain of
the City of London, which took place in 1718 :
^ The city is all in an uproar about the election of
a (^amberlain, like a country corporation foK burgesses,
where roast pig and beef and wine are dealt about
freely at taverns, and advertisements about it more
volimnnous than the late celebrated Bangorean Nottfi-
eation, though not in a calm and undisturbed way.**
Pisfi£T Thompson.
Stoke Newington.
''Boman Catholics ccmfined in Fens qfJEfy. — Mr.
Dickens, in Household Wards^ Ko. 169. p. 382., in
the continuation of a " Child's History of Eng-
land,^ S£i7s, when alluding to the threatened invA-
sion of England by the Spanish Armada :
" Some of the Queen's advisers were for seizing the
principal English Catholics, and putting them to
deatii ; but the queen — who, to her honour, used to
say that die would never believe any ill of ber subject^
which a parent would not believe of her own children
— neglected the advice, and only confined a few ^
those who were the most suspected among them, ia
the fens of Lincolnshire.**
Mr. Dickens had, of course, -as he supposec^
l^ood authority for making this statenaent; boti
m reply to a private communication, he states b6
should have been Fens of Ely. I am, perhaps,
convicting myself of gross ignorance by seeking tat
information respecting it ; nevertheless, I y&aUxrm
to ask the readers of " N. & Q." for a reference to
the authentic history^ where a corroboration of Mr.
Dickens* statement is to be found ?
FiSHET Thompson.
Stoke Newington.
White Bell Heather transplanted, '^Is it gene*
rally known that white bell heather becomes pmk
on being transplanted from its native hills into a
garden F Two plants were shown to me a iem
days ago, by a country neighbour, flowering pink,
which were transplanted, the one three, and the
other two, years ago ; the former had white bells
for two years, the latter for one year only. What
I wish to know is, Wkether these are eiLceptioBal
cases or not ? W. 0.
Argyleshire.
Oree-rCs *^ Secret Plot?' — Can you inform «ie
where the scene of the following drama is laid,
and the names of the dramatis persona f The
Secret Plot ; a tragedy by Rupert Green, l^mo.,
1777. The author of this «plajr, which was pub-
lished when he was only in his ninth year, was
the son of Mr. Valentine Green, who wrote a
history of Worcester, A. Z»
« Thefidl Mow brings fine Weather:' — Wheft
did this saying originate, and have we any proo£
of its correctness ? The late Duke of Wellington
is reported to have said, that, as regarded llio
weather, it was '' nonsense to have any faith in the
moonJ** (Vide Larpent's Private Journal^ vol. iL
p. 283.) W. W.
Malta.
Nash the Artist — In the year 1302, Mr. E,
Nash made a wAter-cc^onr drawing of the TomwL
Hall, chur<Ae8, &c., in the High Street of 4^
ancient borough of Dorchester ; a line engraving
(now rather scarce) was rfiortly aftcrwarus pub-
lished therefrom by Mr. J. Frampton, then a
bookseller in the town. Can anyxeffder of thsB
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[N6. 196.
" N. & Q." inform me nhAt Mr. Kuh tbli waa,
and what became of him ? Wm he related to the
Cattle* aad Abbeys N^osh F Johk G&buhd.
Dotcbetter.
WoodiBork of St. Andrew'* Priory Chtrch,
SarmeeU. — The Cambridge Architectural Sooietj,
which is now attempting the restoration of St.
Andrew's Priory Church, Barnwell, will feci
deeply indebted to any of your readers who can
pve iheni any information respecting; the carved
woodwork removed from that church some forty
years ago, to make way for the present hideous
arrangement of pews and pulpit. A man who
lives OD the spot speaks of a fine wood screen, and
highly decorated pulpit, some porlJODS of which
were sold by auction ; and the rest was in his pos-
session for some time, and portions of it were
given away by him to all who applied for it.
Tbb Tbeasurbb.
Tiin. Coll. Camb.
" The Mitre and ike Crown" — I find the followmg
work, at first publuhed anonymously, reprinted as
Dr. Atterbury's in Sir Walter Scott's edition of
the Somen' Tracti. Ho reason is assigned by the
editor for ascribing it to him, and I should be glad
to know whether there is any satisfactory evidence
for doing so. The original tract appears as anony-
mous in the Bodleian Catalogue :
** The Mitre and the Crown, or a real Distinction
betceen them : in a Letter to a Rererend Member
of the ConTocation: Lond. nil, Svo."
'aWvt.
Dublin.
MiUbxry Mtuie. — Was military music ever
played at night in the time of King Charles L P
, MlUTASIS.
Minor <atmftri fnft^ 'SivStani.
Sloven Church. — Can you give me any inform-
ation conceroing the origimd church of Stoven,
Safioik, which was of good Norman work through-
out, as lately ascertained by the vast number of
Norman mouldiogs found in the walls in restoring
h I" L. (2)
[In Jermyn's "Suffolk Collcctioni,'- vol. vi. (Add.
H8S. SI73.), in the British Museum, are the following
NdUs of this church, taken Ist June, IBOS, by H. I.
and D. E. D. : " The Church consiila of a nave and
chancel, bolh under one roof, which is coTcred with
thatch. ThechincelisSO tt SiiLlong, and 15 ft. 9 in.
wide. Ilie communion-table is neitber raised nor in-
closed. The floor of the whole church ii also of ibe
tame hdght. The nave is 30 ft long, and 16 ft. 1 in.
wide. Between the chancel and nave are the remains
of ■ acreen, and over it the alms of George II, between
two tables containing the Lord's Prayer, &c. In the
N. E. angle is the pulpit, which la of oak, hexagon,
ordinary, as are alio the pewa and teats. At the W.
end stands the font, which is octagon, the faces con-
taining roses and lions, and two figures holding blank
eacutcheons, the pedestal supported by four lions. The
steeple is in the usual place, small, square, of flinty
but little higher than the roof. In it is only one bell,
inscrilied 1 759- The entrance Into the church on the
N. side is through a circular Saion arch, not much
ornamented. On the side is aivothet of the same de-
scription, but more ornamented, with zig-zag moulding,
&c." Then follow the inscriptions, &i;. in the chancel,
or Mia. Elizabeth Brown, John Brown, Thomas Brown j
in the nave, of Henry KeabU, with eitracls from the
pariah register commencing in 1653.]
2^e Statute of Kilhenny. — Said to have been
passed in 1361. What was the nature of it P
^Abredonbksis.
[This statute legally abolished the ancient code of
the Irish, called tlie Brehon laws, and was passed in a
parliament held at Kilkenny in the 40th Edward III.,
under the government of Lionel, Duke of Clareno;
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. By this act, the English
selves by the common laws of England, so that who-
ever submitted himself to the Brehon law, or the lav
of the Marches, is declared a traitor. Among other
things the tUtute enacted that " the alliaunce of the
English by marriage with any Irish, the nurture of
inbntes, and gossipred with the Irish, be deemed high
treason." And again, " If anie man of English race
or fashion of the Irish, his lands' shall be sciicd, and
his bodie impilsoned, till he shall conform to English
modes and customs." This statute was followed by the
ISIh Henry VI. c. i. ii. iii., and the 28tb Hen. VI„
c. i., with similar prohibitions and penalties. These
prohibitions, however, had liitle effect j nor were ihe
English laws universally submitted to throughout Ire-
land until the lime of James I„ when Ibe final extir-
pation of the ancient Brehon law was effected.}
Kenne of Ketme. — Can any of yonr Kentish
correspondents inform me to whom a certain
Christ. Eenne of Kenne, in co. Somerset, sold the
manor of " Oaklej'," in the parish of Higijam, near
Rochester; and in whose possession it was about
the close of the reign of Queen Elizabeth or com-
mencement of James I. ?
The above Kenne, by marrying Elizabeth, the
daughter of Sir Roger Cholmeley, and widow of
Sir Leonard Beckwith, of Selby, In co. York,
acquired possession of the same manor in co.
Kent.
After the death of his first wife, be married ft
Florence Stalling, who survived him. He died in
1592. F. T.
[■ Christopher Kenne of Kenne, in the county of
Somerset, Esq., was possessed of the manor of Little
Okeley, in Higham, Kent, in the right of his wile, the
daughter and co-har of Sir Roger Cholmeley, anoa
July 23. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
81
22 Eliz. ; and theii) having levied a fine of it, sold it to
Thompson, and he, in the reign of Charles I., alienated
it to Best." — Hasted.
Of course, the Christian name of Thompson, and
other particulars if required, can be obtained by a
reference to the foot of the fine in the Record Office,
Carlton Ride.J
Rents of Assize^ SfC, — In the Valor Ecclesuut^
ticus, the following varieties of income derived
from rent of land constantly recur, viz. :
" De redditu (simply).
De redditu assisse.
De redditu libero.
De redditu ad voluntatem.**
Can the distinction between these be exactly
explained by any corresponding annual payments
for land according to present custom P And will
any of your readers be kind enough to give such
explanation P J.
[^Reddilus. — Rents from lands let out to tenants;
modern farm rents.
Redditus Assise. — Quit rents : fixed sums paid by
the tenants of a manor annually to the lord; as in
modern times.
JReddituB Libert, — Those quit rents which were paid
to the lord by ** liberi tenentes," freeholders ; as dis-
tinguished from ** villani bassi tenentes,** &c.
Redditus ad volunttxtem. — Annual payments <* ad
voluntatem donatium ; " such as *< confrana," &c. The
modern Easter Offering perhaps corresponds with them.]
Edifices of Ancient and Modem Times. — Can
any of your architectural or antic^uarian readers
inform me where a chronological list of the prin-
cipal edifices of ancient and modern times can be
found ? Gbtsbn.
[Consult Chronological Tables of Ancient and Modem
History Synchronistically and Ethnographically arranged^
fol., Oxford, 1835. For those relating to Great Bri-
tain, see Britton's Chronological and Historical lllustra*
tions, and his Architectural Antiquities of Great Britain,^
Gorram. — Please to direct me where I can find
a short account of Gorram, an ecclesiastical writer
(I suppose) mentioned by D*Aubign^ vol. v.
p. 245. L. (2)
[The divine alluded to by D*Aubign^ is no doubt
Nicholas de Gorran, a Dominican, confessor to Philip
the Fair of France. He was an admired and eloquent
preacher, and his Sermons, together with a Commen-
tary on the Gospels, appeared at Paris, 1523 and 1539.
He died in 1295.]
^ Rock of Ages'' — Wlio is the author of the
hymn beginning *' Rock of Ages P ** J. G. T.
[That celebrated advocate for The Calvinism of the
Church ofEnglandf the Rev. Augustus Montague Top-
lady.]
BEMUNEBATION OF AUTHORS.
(Vol.vii., p.591.)
Responding to the challenge of your correspon-
dent Mb. Andrews, I copy the foUowing from my
common-place book :
From Lintots memorandum'book of ** Copies when
purchased,**
Farquhar,
1705. Recruiting Officer -
1706. Beaux Stratagem -
£ s.d.
- 16 2 6
- 30 0 O
Setterton,
1712. The Miller*s Tale, with some charac-
ters firom Chaucer - - - 5 7 6
Mr. Centlivre.
1703. May 14. Love*s Contrivance - - 10 0 O
1709. May 14. Busy Body - . - 10 O O
Mr, Cibber,
Nov. 8. A third of LoVe's Last Shift 3 4 6
Nov. 5. PeroUa and Izadora - - 36 11 O
Oct. 27. Double Gallant - - 16 2 6
Nov. 22. Lady's Last Stake - - 32 5 O
Feb. 26. Venus and Adonis - - 5 7 6
Oct. 9. Comical Lover - - - 10150
Mar. 16. Cinna*s Conspiracy - - 13 0 0
Oct. 1. The Nonjuror - - - 105 0 0
1701.
1705.
1707.
1708.
1712.
1718.
Mr, Gay.
1713. May 12. Wife of Bath - - - 25 0 0
1714. Nov. 11. Letter to a Lady • - 5 76
1715. Feb. 14. The What-d'ye-call-it? - 16 2 6
Dec. 22. Trivia - - - - 43 0 O
Epistle to the Earl of Bur-
lington - - - - 10 15 O
1717. May 4. Battle of the Frogs - - 16 2 6
Jan. 8. Three Hours after Marriage 43 2 6
Revival of the Wife of Bath 75 0 0
The Mohocks, a farce - - 22. 1 Of.
Sold the Mohocks to him again.
234 10 O
Captain KiUegrew.
1718-19. Feb. 14. Chit Chat - - - 84 0 0
Mr. OzdL
1711. Nov. 18. 7 Translating Homer*s Iliad,
1712. Jan. 4. J books i. ii. iii. . - 10 8 6
1713. April 29. Translating Moliere - 37 12 6
N. Rowe, Esq.
Dec. 12. Jane Shore • - - 50 15 0
1715. April 27. Jane Grey - - - 73 5 O
Somerviffe.
1727. July 14. A Collection of Poems - 35 15 0
83
NOTES AND QUEEIEa
flTo. 195.
Poipe,
1712. Feb. 19. Statius, 1st book, and Ver- £
tumnus and Pomona - - -
Mar. 21. First edition of the Rape
April 9. To a lady presenting Voi-
ture. Upon Silence. To the author
of a poem called Successio -
1712-13. Windsor Forest (Feb. 23)
1713. July 23. Ode to St. Cecilia's Day -
1714. Feb. 20. Addition to the Rape
Mar. 23. Homer, vol. i. - -
650 copies on royal paper
1715. Feb. 1. Temple of Fame
April 21. Key to the Lock
1716. Feb. 9. Homer, vol. ii. -
May 2. 650 royal paper
July 17. Essay on Criticism -
1717. Aug. 9. Homer, vol. iii.
1718. Jan. 6. 650 royal paper - — -
Mar. 3. Homer, vol. iv,
650 royal paper
Oct 17. Homer, voL v, -
1719. April 6. 650 royal paper - "-
1720. Feb. 26. Homer, vol. vi.
May 7. 650 royal paper-
1721. Parnell's Poems - - - .
Paid Mr. Pope for the subscription-
money due on the 2nd volume of his
Homer, and on his 5th volume, at
the agreement for the said 5th vol.
— ( I had Mr. Pope*s assignment for
the royal paper that was ^en left of
his Homer) ...
Copy-money for the Odyssey, vols. i. ii. iii.,
and 750 of each volume printed on royal
paper, 4to. -...-. 615
Copy- money for the Odyssey, vola. iv. and
v., and 750 of each royal . . - 425
£
9. d.
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£4244 8 7J
From that storehouse of instruction and amuse-
ment, Nichols's Anecdotes, vol. vilL pp. 293—1
304.
I take this opportunity of forwardifig to you a
curious memorandum which I found in rummaging
the papers of a "note-maker" of the last century.
It appears to be a bill of fare for the entertain-
ment of a party, upon the " flitch of bacon" being
decreed to a happy couple. It is at Ilarrowgate,
and not at Dunmow, which would lead us to be-
lieve that this custom was not confined to one
county. The feast itself is almost as remarkable,
as regards its component parts, as that product
by Mr. Thackeray, in his delightful " Lectures,"
as characteristic of polite feeding in Queen Anne*s
reign :
"•/ame 25. — Mr, and Mrs. UdddTs Dinner mt Green
Draffon, Harrowgate, -on taking FJiitch Baeon Oaik.
BUI Fare.
Beans and bacon.
Cabbage, colliflower.
Three doz. cbickeDs.
Two shoulders mutton, eoweambenL
Two turbets.
Rump beef, &c. &c.
Goose and plumbpudding. ]
Quarter lamb, sallad.
Tarts, jellies, strawberries, cream. '
Cherrys, syllabubs, and blomopge.
Leg lamb, spinnage.
Crawfish, pickled salmon,
Fryd tripe, calves' beads.
Gravy and pease soop.
Two piggs.
Breast veal, ragoud.
Ice cream, pine apple.
Surloin bea£
Pidgeons, green peas.
lobsters, crabs.
Twelve red herrings, twenty-two dobils:*'
W.B.
'Stoekwell.
4>N THE V8B OF THE HOUR-GLASS IV FHXJPITi.
(Vol. viL, p. 4890
Perhaps the following may be of seryioe as i
farther illustration ef this subject.
ZAcharie Boyd says, in The Last BaUeU qf fht
Sovle in Deaths 1629, reprinted Glasgow, 1681, at
p. 469. :
-** Now after his Battell ended hee hath mxnemdiani
the spirit, Clepstfdra effluxit, his houre-gkisse is now
nmne oat, and his soule is come to its wished iMne,
where it is fireefimn the fetters of ^esh.**
Tius divine was minister of tlie banmj parigk
of Glasgow, the church for which was then in tlM
crypt of the cathedral. I have no doubt the hoar-
^as8 was there used from which he draws Us
simile. Y<ittr correspondent refers to sermons 'sn
hour long, but, to judge from the contents of *• Mr.
Zacharie 8 ** MS. sermons still preserved m Ite
library of the College of Glasgow, each, at the rate
of ordiniEuy speaking, must hAve occupied at least
an hour and a half in delivery. When he had 'he*
come infirm and near his end, and had found ift
necessary to shorten his sermons, his '* kirk jas*
sion ** was ofiended, as —
** Feb. IS, 1651. Some are to speak to Mr. Z. Bc^
about the soon akailing (dismisaing) of the Banonie
Kirk OB Sunday afternoon."
Though senttons are bow genendly restrietai
from three quarters to an bourns Misery, tktt
practice of long preaching in the olden times in
the west of Scotland had much prevuled. Widiin
my own recollection I have neard sermcms tit
nearly two hours* duration ; asid eariymMngmlGnr
classes of the first I^ssenfcers, on **^8aerimeiitti
Occasions** as they are yet called, the senrieai
lasted altogether (not unfrequently) continuouslj
from ten o^ock on Sabbath forenoon, to three and
July 23. 1853.]
ITOTES AND QUERIEa
83
£aiir o*olo(^ ibe following mormn^. Jk. traditional
anecdote is current of an old Fresbjterian clergy-
man, onusually full of matter, w1m>, liaving preached
out his hour-glass, was accustomed to pause, and
addressing the precentor, ^^ Another glass and then,^^
lecommenced his sermon.
A pictorial representation of the hour-glass
in a country church is to be seen in &ont of
the precentor*8 desk, or pulpit, in a ver^ scarce
humorsome print, entitled ^^ Fresbjtenan Pe-
nance," by tne famous David Allan. It also
figures in the engraving of the painting by WHkie,
of John Knox preaching before Mary Queen of
Scots. About twenty years ago it was either in
the Cathedral of Stirling or the Armory of the
Castle (the ancient chapel), that I saw the hour-
glass (about twelve Inches high) which had been
connected with one or other of the |mlpits, from
both of which John Knox is s!ud to have preached.
It is likely the hour-glass is there "even unto
this day " (unless abstracted by some relic hunter) ;
and if it could be depended on as an original ap-
pendage to the pulpits, would prove that its use
was coeval with the times of the Scottish Re-
formation. I think its high antiquity as certain
as the oaken pulpits themselves.
At an early period the general poverty of the
country, and the scarcity of clocks and watches,
must have given rise to the adoption of the hour
sand-'glass, a simple instrument, but yet elegant
and impressive, for the measurement of a brief
portion of our fleeting span. G. N.
Glasgow.
On the 3 1st May, 1640, the churchwardens of
Great Staughton, co. Huntingdonshire, " are, and
stand charged with (among oUier churdi goods), a
jmlpit Btandinge in the church, having a cover
over the same, and an houre-^asse adjominge."
Copy of a cutting from b ssagazine, name and
date unknown :
** Among Dr. 'Rawlinson^ manuscripts in the Bod-
leian Library, No. 941 contains a collection of Miscel-
laneous DisconrseSf by Mr. Lewis of Margate, in Kent,
whence ihe following extract has been made :
** * It-appears that these hour-glasses were coeval with
our Reformation. In a fine frontispiece, prefixed to
the Holy Bible of the bishops' translation, printed in
4to. by John Day, 1569, Archbishop Parker is repre-
sented in the ptilpit wiA an hour-glass standing on bis
right hand ; ours, here, stood onthe left without any
frame. It was proper that«some time should be pre-
scribed for the 4eng^ of the serman, And clocks and
txatcbes wore not then so common as they are •novr,
2lnB-time of an hour con^ued till ihe Aevoluiion, as
appeals by Bishop Sanderson's, TiIletson*s, StiUing-
€oetljB, Dr. Barrow's, and othersVaermons, printed dur*
ii^thot tine.*
'^ The writer of .this artide was informed in 1811
by the.U«r« Mr. ^Busder, «rko Jbad the oumcy of St.
Dunstan'a, Fleet-Street, that the large silver liour-glasar
formerly used in that church, was melted down into
two staff heads for the parish beadles.
^ An hour-glass frnme of iron, fixed in the wall by
the side of the pulpit, was remaining in 1797 in the
church of North Moor, in Oxfordshire."
JosBFH Hnc.
St. Neots, Huntingdonshire.
In many of our <Ad pulpits built during the
seventeenth century, wh^ hour sermons n^ere the
rule, and thirty minutes the exception, the shelf
on which the glass used to stand may still be seen.
If I recollect rightly, that oi' Miles Gover4ale was
thus furnished, as stated in the newspapers, at the
time the church of Bartholomew was removed.
Perhaps this emblem was adopted on gravestones
as significant of the^^aracter of Death as a minister
or preacher.
The late Basil Montague, when delivering a
course of lectures on ^' Laughter " at the Islington
Institution some few years since, kept time by the
aid of this antique instrument. If I remember
aright, he turned the glass and said, ^^Another glass
and ffien^^ or some equivalent expression.
£. G. Ballabp.
There is an example at the churdi of St. Alban,
Wood Street, Cheapside. This church was rebuilt
by Sir C. Wren, and finished 168^ ; showing that
the hour-glass was in use subsequent to the times
alluded to. J. D. Aluc^owt.
I saw, on 13th January last, an iron hour-glass
stand affixed to a pillar in the north aiale of Belton
Church, in the Isle of Axholme.
Edwaud Peacock.
Bottesford Moors, Kirton-in-Xindsey.
liADIES ABM6 BOBNE IN A LOZEKGE.
(Vol. vii., p.571.)
The subject of the Query put by your corre-
spoBdent is one ihat has frequently occurred to
me, but which is involved in obscurity. Heraldic
writers generally have contented themselves with
the mere statement of ladies* arms being thus
borne ; and where we do£nd an opinion hazarded,
it is uoore in the form of a quotation from a name-
less author, or of a timid suggestion, than an at-
tempt to elucidate the questifm by argument <kr
from history.
By some this form of shield is said to have
descended to us from the Amazons, who .bore such:
others say, from the form of their tombstones I
Now we find it to represent the ancient spindle
so much used by ladies ; and again to be a shield
found by the Romans unfit &r use, and therefore
transferred to the weaker sex, arho wefle *^ allowed
to place their ensigns npoQ it, ivith one comer
always uppermost.**
84
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 195.
"" Here are quotations from a few of our writers
on the science of Heraldry : —
Burke, Encychp. Herald, 1844. Queen Victo-
ria bears her arms on a full and complete shield ;
** for," says the old rhyme —
<* Our sagest men of lore define
The kingly state as masculiney
Paiseant, martial, bold and strong,
The stay of right, the scourge of wrong ;
Hence those that England's sceptre wield,
Must buckle on broad sword and shield.
And o*er the land, and o'er the sea.
Maintain her sway triumphantly.**
This, unfortunately, is only one side of the ques-
tion : and, though satisfactorily accounting for the
shape of the shield of royalty, does not enlighten
us on the " origin and meaning " of the lozenge.
Babrington, Display of Heraldry^ 1844: —
*' An unmarried daughter bears her father's arms on
a lozenge>shaped shield, without any addition or altera-
tion.**
Berrt, Encych Herald, 1830 : —
** The arms of maidens and widows should be borne
in shields of this shape.**
RoBSON, British Herald^ 1830 : —
<* Lozenge, a four-cornered figure, differing from
the fusil, being shorter and broader. Plutarch says
that in Megara [read Megura], an ancient town of
Greece, the tombstones under which the bodies of Ama-
zons lay were of that form : some conjecture this to be
the cause why ladies have their arms on lozenges. '*
PoRNT, Elements of Heraldry, 1795, supposes —
The lozenge may have been originally a fusily or
fusee, as the French call it : it is a figure longer than
the lozenge, and signifies a spindle, which is a woman*s
instrument.**
This writer also quotes Sylvester de Petra
Sancta^ who would have this shield to " represeiU
a cushion, whereon women used to sit and spin, or
do other housewifery."
Brydson, Summary View of Heraldry^ 1795: —
** The shields on which armorial bearings are repre-
sented are of various forms, as round, oval, or some-
what resembling a heart; which last is the most
common form. Excepting sovereigns, women un-
married, or widows, bear their arms on a lozenge
shield, which is of a square form, so placed as to have
one of its angles upwards, and is supposed to resemble a
distoff"
Botes, Crreat Theatre of Honour, 1754. In
this great work the various forms of shields, and
the etymology of their names, are treated on at
considerable length. The Greeks had five: — the
Aspis, the Oerron or Oerra, the Thurios, the
Laiveon, and the Pelte or^ Pelta. The Romans
had the Ancile, the Scutum, the Clypeus, the
Parma, the Cetra, and others ; but none of these
approached the shape of the lozenge. The shields
of modern nations are also dealt with at length;
still the author appears to have had no informa-
tion nor an opinion upon the lozenge, which he
dismisses with these remarks : —
" L*^cu des filles est en lozenge, de mSme de celtii dw
veuves ; et en France et ailleurs, celles-ci rornent et
Tentourent d'une cordelidre ou cordon k divers neuds.
Quant auz femmes marines, elles accollent d*ordinaire
leurs armes avec celles de leurs ^poux ; mais qudque-
fois elles les portent aussi en lozenge,^
CoATv,s, Dictionary of Heraldry, 1725, quotes
Colombiere, a French herald, who, he says, gives
upwards of thirty examples of differently formed
shields ; but no allusion is made to the lozenge.
Carter, Honor Redivivus, 1660.
DuGBALE, Ancient Usage in bearing Arms, 1682.
GwiLLiM, Display of Heraldry, 1638.
Camden, Remains, 1637.
Gerard Legh, Accedence ofArmorie, 1576.
None of these authors have touched on the sub-
ject ; which, considering that at the least two of
them are the greatest authorities, appears some*
what strange.
Ferne, Blazon of Gentrie, 1586 —
** Thinks the lozenge is formed of the shield called
Tessera or Tessela, which the Romans, finding unfit for
use, did allow to women to place their ensigns upon,
with one of its angles always upmost.**
Though unable at this moment to furnish ex-
amples m proof of my opinion, I must say that
it is contrary to the one expressed by vour corre-
spondent Cetrep, that " formerly all ladies of
rank** bore their arms upon a complete shield, or
bore shields upon their seals. The two instances
cited by him are rather unfortunate, the connexion
of both ladies with royalty being sufficiently close
to suggest the possibility of their right to the ''full
and complete '* shield.
Margaret^ Duchess (not Countess) of Norfolk,
was sole heir of her father, Thomas of Brotherton^
fiflh Earl of Norfolk, son of King Edward I., and
Marshal of England. She, '* for the greatness of
her birth, her large revenues and wealth,**j{|wa8
created Duchess of Norfolk for life ; and at the
coronation of King Kichard II. she exhibited her
petition '*to be accepted to the office of High
Marshal,** which was, I believe, granted. In such
case, setting aside her royal descent^ I apprehend
that, by virtue of her office, she would not bear
her arms in a lozenge. She bore the arms of
England with only a label for difference.
Margaret, Countess of Richmond, was herself
royally descended, being great-granddaughter of
John of Gaunt^ son of Edward III. ; was daugh-
ter-in-law of Henry V.'s widow, and mother of
Henry VII. Being descended from the ante-
nuptial children of John of Graunt*8 third wife,
who had been legit imatised by act of parliament
for all purposes except succession to the crowD,
July 23. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
85
Henry VII. would probably desire by every
means in his power to suppress anything sugges-
tive of bis unsubstantial title to the crown. It
might be by his particular desire that his mother
assumed the full regal shield, on which to emblazon
arms differing but slightly from those of her sou,
the king.
It is not, however, my opinion that the form of
shield under consideration is anything like so
ancient as some of the authors would make it. I
do not believe it comes to us either from the
Amazons or the Romans.
My own opinion, in the absence of any from the
great writers to guide me, is, that we owe the
use of this form of shield amongst ladies to hatch"
■merits or funeral achievements. During the time of
mourning for persons of rank, their coats of arms
are set up in churches and over the principal
entrances of their houses. On these occasions it is
well known their arms are always placed in a large
black lozenge ; a form adopted as the most proper
figure for admitting the coats of arms of sixteen
ancestors to be placed round it, four on each of
the sides of the square.
It was not until the reign of Richard III. that
the College of Arms was regularly incorporated;
and though the science of heraldry received its
highest polish during the splendid reigns of
Edward III. and Henry V., it had yet scarcely
been subjected to those rules which since the
establishment of the College have controlled it.
Mark Noble, in his History of the College ofArms^
says that the latter reign —
" If it did not add to the wealth of the nation at
large, gave rise to a number of great families, enriched
by the spoils of Azincourt, the plunder of France, and
the ransom of princes. Tlie heraldic body was pecu-
liarly prized and protected by the king, who, however,
was very whimsical in the adoption of cognizances and
devices."
During the greater portion of the fourteenth
century, and the early part of the fifteenth, there
was a rage for jousts, tilts, and tournaments ; and
almost every English nobleman had his officers of
arms ; dukes, marquesses, and earls were allowed
a herald and pursuivant ; the lower nobility, and
even knights, might retain one of the latter. To
these officers belonged the ordering of everything
relating to the solemn and magnificent funerals,
which were so general in these centuries, and
which they presided over and marshalled.
During the reign of Edward IV. the exact form
of these obsequies was prescribed. Not only were
the noblemen*s own heralds there, but the king*s
also : and not in tabards bearing the sovereign's,
but the deceased's arms. .
So preposterously fond of funeral rites were
monarchs and their subjects, that the obsequies of
princes were observed by such sovereigns as were
in alliance with them, and in the same state as if
the royal remains had been conveyed from one
Christian kingdom to another. Individuals had
their obsequies kept in various places where they
had particular connexions.*
Is it too much then to presume that in the
midst of all this pomp and affectation of grief, the
hatchment of the deceased nobleman would be
displayed as much, and continued as long, as pos-
sible by the widow ? May we not reasonably
believe that these ladies would vie with each
other in these displays of the insignia of mourning,
until, by usage, the lozenge-shaped hatchment
became the shield appropriated to the sex ?
These hypotheses are not without some found-
ation ; but if any of your correspondents will
enunciate another theory, I shall be glad to give
it my support if it is found to be more reasonable
than the foregoing. Bboctuna.
Bury, Lancashire.
photographic cosbespomdence.
Mvltiplication of Photographs. — In Vol. viii.,
p. 60. is a letter from Mb. John Stewart of Pau
suggesting certain modes of operating in pro-
ducing positive photographs, and which sugges-
tions are apparently offered as novelties, when, in
fact, they have been for some considerable time in
practice by other manipulators. Of course, I do
not suppose that they are otherwise regarded by
Mr. Stewart than as novelties, who cannot be
acquainted with what is doing here ; but it ap-
pears to me desirable to discriminate between facts
that are absolutely^ and those that are relatively
new.
Most of the transparent stereoscopic photographs
sold in such numbers by all our eminent opticians,
are acttudly produced m the way recommended
by Mr. Stewart ; and reduced copies of photo-
graphs, &c., have been produced in almost every
possible variety by Dr. Diamond, and many
others of our most eminent photographers. Very
early in the history of this science, the idea was
suggested by Mr. Fox Talbot himself, of taking
views of a small size, and enlarging them for mul-
tiplication ; and, if I am rightly informed, Mr.
Ross was applied to to construct a lens specially
for the purpose. Some months back, as early at
least as March or April in the present year, Mr.
F. H. Wenham actually printed on common chlo-
ride paper a life-size positive from a small nega-
tive on collodion ; and immediately afterwards
adopted the use of iodized paper for the same pur-
pose; and after he had exhibited the proofs, I
myself repeated the experiment. In fact, had
there been time at the last meeting of the Photo-
graphic Society, a paper on this very subject
would have been read by Mr. Wenham ; but the
♦ Noble.
86
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 195.
business before ihe meeting was too extensive to
admit of it. My object is not, of course, to offer
anj objection to tbe proposition, but simply to put
in a claim of merit for the idea originiuly due to
Mr. Fox Talbot, and secondarily to Mr. Wenham,
who I believe was an earlier operator in this way
than any one. Geo. Shasbolt.
Yellow Botttes for FhotograpMc Chemicals^ —
As light transmitted through a yellow curtain, or
yellow glass, does not affect photographic ope-
rations, would it not be desirable to keep the
nitrate of silver and its solutions in yellow glass
bottles, instead of covering the plain white glass
with black paper, as I see directed in some cases ?
Ceridwen.
Donnyhrook Fair (Vol. vii, p. 549.). — Abhba
will find his answer in D' Alton's History of the
County of DvbUn^ p. 804. :
" About the year 1 174, Earl * Strongbow'gaTe Don-
nybrock (Devonalbroc), amongst other lands, to Walter
de Riddlesford ; and in 1204, King John granted to
the corporation of Dublin license for an annual tight-
day fair here, commencing on the day of th? finding of
the Holy Cross (May 3rd), with similar stallages and
tolls, as established in Waterford and Limerick.**
This scene of an Irishman's glory has been
daguerreotyped in lines that may be left in your
pages, as bemg probably quite as little known to
your readers as is the work above cited :
** Instead of weapons, either band
Seized on such arms as came to hand.
And as famed Ovid paints th* adventures
Of wrangling Lapitbae and Centnurs,
Who at their feast, by Bacchus led*
Threw bottles at each others' head ;
And these arms failing in their scuffles.
Attacked with andirons, tonges, and shovels :
Sd clubs and billets, staves and stones.
Met fierce, encountering every sconce.
And cover*d o*er with knobs and pains.
Each void receptacle for brains.**
J.D.
Abigail (Vol. iv., p. 424. ; Vol. v., pp. 38. 94.
450.; Vol. viii., p. 42.). — Not having my "N. &
Q.** at hand, I cannot say what may have been
already told on this subject, but I think I can
answer the Queries of your last correspondent,
H. T. Kylev. There can be, I think, no doubt that
the familiar use of the name Abigail, for ih^ genus
" lady's maid," is derived from one whom I may
call Abigail the Great ; who, before she ascended
King David's bed and throne, introduced herself
under the oflt-reiterated description of a '^ hand-
maid." (See 1 Sam. xxv. 24, 25. 27, 28. 31.) I
have no Concordance at hand, but I suspect there
is no passage in Scripture where the word hand-
maid is more prominent ; and so the idea
associated with the name AbigaiL An Abigml Sk
a hand-maid is therefore merely analogous to a
Goliaih for a giant ; a Job for a patient man; a
JSamiou for a strong one ; a JezeM for a ahrev,
&c. I need hardly add, that H. T. Rti.bt*8 coa-
jecture, that this use of the term Abigail had iQj
relation to the Lady Masham, is, therefore, quite
supererogative — but I aiay go fkrther. tiie oU
Duchess of Marlboroagh's Apology^ which Jnt
told the world that Lady Masham*8 Christian
name was Abigail, and that she was a poor ooaaa
of her own, was not published till 1742« wheaaH
feeling about ^^ Abigau Hill and her brother Jack"
was extinct. In fine, it will be found that the me
of the term Abigail for a lady's maid was muflb
more frequent before the change of Queen Anne's
Whig ministry than after* C.
Honorary Degrees (Vol. viii , p. 8.). — ^Honoraiy
degrees give no corporate rights. Johnson nerer
himself assumed the title of Doctor ; conferred <B
him first by the University of Dublin in 1765,
and afterwards in 1775 by that of Oxford. See
Croker s Boswell, p. 168. n. 5., for the probable
motives of Johnson's never having called himself
Doctor. C.
Red Hair (Vol. vii., p. 616.). — The Danes are
said to have been (and to be even now) a red-
haired race.
They were long the scourge of England, and to
this possibly may ba attributed in some degree
the prejudice against people having hair of diit
colour.
In Denmark, it is said, red-hair is esteemed a
beauty.
That red-haired people are fiery and paauonaie
is undoubtedly true ; at least I vouch for it as fitf
as my experience goes ; but that they enut a dis-
agreeable odour when inattentive to personal
cleanliness, is probably a vulgar prejudice ariang
from the colour of their hair, resembling that S
the fox — unde the term " foxy." A. C. IL
Exeter.
Historical Engravir^ (VoL vii., p. 619.}« — ^I
am glad I happen to be able to inform £L S.
Tatlob that his engraving, about the restoration
of Charles II., is to be found in a book entitled —
** Verhael in forme van JounuhU van de Rsjrs fatim t
V^rtoeven van den seer Doorluohtige ende Madht^
Prins Carel de II.*' &c ** la 's GxaveB-ha|(fl^ bg
Adrian Vlack, m.i>c.i:.x.** &c
Folio. The names at tbe eomer of the ewgimfiag
are apparently "F. T. viiet, jn. P. fwiapc,
sculp." J. iL 6.
Proverbs quoted by Suetonius (VoL vii., p. ^M.).
— A fuU explanation of the proverb
July 23. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
87
wUl be found in the Ade^^ia of Enumue^ under the
head '* Festina knte/* p. 588^ edit. 1599. That it
was a faTOurite proverb of ihe Emperor Angustus
is also stated by Gelliias, Noct. Att. x. 11., and
Macrob., Saturn^ vi. 8. The versei—
•* ij9^m!K\tt yip 4<rT* ifAtlyttv ^ dpa<rvs ffrparrjXdTriSf**
is from the Phosnissce of Euripides, y. 599. L.
" Sat cito^ SI sat hetie^ (Vol. v., p. 594 ; Vol. vili.,
p. 18.). — Your correspondent C. thinks that F.
W. J. is mistaken in calling it a favourite maxim
of Lord Eldon. Few persons are more apt to
make mistakes than F. W . J. He therefore sends
the following extract from Twiss's Life of Lord
C. Eldon, vol. i. p. 49. They are Lord Eldon's
own words, after having narrated the anecdote to
which C. refers :
** In short, in all that I have had to do in futare life,
professional and judicial, I have always ielt $he effect
of this early admonition on the pannels of the vehicle
which conveyed me from school, * Sat cito, si sat bene.*
It was the impression of this which made me tliat de-
liberative judge-— as some have said, too deliberative ;
and reflection on all that is past will not authorise me
to deny, that whilst I have been thinking * Sat cito,
si sat bene,* I may not sufficiently have recollected
whether ' Sat bene, si sat cito* has had its iafluence.*'
The anecdote, and this observation upon it, are
taken by Twiss from a book of anecdotes in Lord
Eldon*s own handwriting. F. W. J.
CouocU of Leufdieea, Canon 35. (VoL viii., p. 7.).
— Cx£Bicus (D.) will find Angelas in the text,
without Angulos in the margin, in any volume
which contains the version by Dionysius Exi^us,
or that by Gentianus Hervetus ; the former prmted
Mogunt. 1525 ; Paris, 1609, 1661, and 1687 : the
latter, Paris, 1561 and 1618 ; and sufficientlv sup-
plied by Beverege and Howel. Both translations
are given by Crabbe, Suriua, Binius, and others.
The corrupt reading Angvlos^ derived from
Isidorus Mercator, appears in the text, and without
a marginal correction, in James Merlin's edition
of the Councils, Colon. 1530 ; in Carranza*s Summa,
Sahnant 1551, Lugd. 1601, Lovan. 1668 (in
which last impression, the twelfth, the true head-
ing of the Canon, according to Dionysius and
Crisconius, viz. " De his qui Angehs colunt," is
restored) ; and in the Sanctiones Ecclesiasticce of
Joverius, Paris, 1555.
For Angelos in the text, with a courageous
"fort^ legendum** Angrdos in the margin, in Pope
Adrian's Epitome Canonum^ we are deeply in-
dited to Oantsius (Tkesamr, Mmmm,, ii. 271. ed.
Basnage); and this is the method adopted
Longus it CoriQiano and Bail. B
Anna Lightfin^ (VoL vii., p. 595,}. — I have
heard my mother speak of Anna Lightfbot: her
family beknged to the xeligioaa community called
. O.
Friends or Qnsdcers. My mother was bom 1751,
and died in the year 1836. The aunt of Anna
Eleanor Lightfoot was next-door-neighbour to my
grandfather, who lived in Sir Wm. Warren s
Si|uare, Wapping. The family were from York-
shire, and the father of Anna was a shoemaker,
and kept a shop near Execution Dock, in the same
district. He had a brother who was a linendraper,
living in the neighbourhood of St. Jameses, at the
west end of the town ; and Anna was frequently
his visitor, and here it was that she became ac-
quainted with the great man of the day. She was
missing, and advertised for by her friends : and,
after some time had elapsed, they obtained some
information as to her retreatv, stating that she
was well provided for ; and her condition became
known to them. She had a son who was a corn-
merchant, but, from some circumstance, became
deranged in his intellects, and it is said eommdtted
suicide. But whether she had a daughter, I neyex
heard. A retreat was provided for Anna in one
of those large houses suiTounded with a high wall
and garden, in the district of Cat-and-Mutton
FieldS, on the east side of Hackney Road, leadii^
from Mile End Road ; where she lived, and it is
said died, but in what year I cannot say. All this
I have heard my mother tell when I was a young
lad : furthermore your deponent knoweth not.
J. M. C.
Jack and GiU (Vol. vii., p. 572.). — A some-
what earlier instance of the occurrence of the ex-
pression " Jack and Gill " is to be found (with a
slight difference) in John Hey wood's Dialogue of
Wit and FoUy, page 11, of the Percy Society's
reprint :
** No more hathe he in mynde, ether payne or care.
Than hathe other Cock my hors, or Gyll my mare ! '*
This is probably not more than twenty years
earlier than your correspondent's quotation from
Tusser. H. C. K.
Simile of the Soul and the Magnetic Needle
(Vol. vi. passim ; Vol. vii., p. 508.). — Southey, in
bis Omniana (vol. i. p. 210.), cites a passage from
the PartidaSy in which the magnetic needle is used
in illustration. It is as ToUows :
^£ bien aasi como los maritierog se guian en la
noche eseura por el aguja, que les es medianera entre
la piedra 4 la estrella, 6 les muestra por de vayan, tam-
bien en los malos tiempos^ como en los buenos ; otroii
los que han de coBsejar al Key, se deven sienpre giiiar
por la justicia ; que es medianera entre Dios 6 el
mundo, en todo tiempo, para dar guardaloa & los
buenos, 6 pena & los malos, d cada uno segund su me-
rescimiento."-— 2 Partida, tit. ix. ley 28.
This passage is especially worthy of attentioOy
as having been written half a century before the
supposed invention of the mariner's compaas fay
Flavins Gioias at Amalfi; and, as Southey re*
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 196.
tnari:!, "it miut have been nell known and in
general use before it would tUus be rererred to as
a familiar illustration."
I do not think that an/ of j'our correspondents
have quoted the halting linea wilh which Bjron
mars the pathos of the Rousseau-like letter of
Donna Juba {Don Jaan, canto i. stanza cxcvi.) :
" Mj heart is feiDiniDe, dot can forget —
To all, except one imagE, madly blinit ;
So shakes the needle, and so stands the pole.
As vibrates my fond heart to my Hx'd •oul."
Oibbott't Library (Vol.vii., pp.407. «5. 535.).
— The following quotation from Cyrua Reddin^'s
" Recollections of the Author of Vathek " (iVeio
Montkla Magazine, vol. Ixxi. p. 308.) maj interest
J. H. M. and jour other correspondents under this
« ' I bought it (says Beckford) to have something to
md when I passed through Lausanne. 1 have not
been there since. I shut myself up for sliweeks, from
arly in the morning until nighl. only sow aod then
taking a iide. The people thought me mad. I read
myself nearly blind.'
" I inquired if the books were rare or eiirioui. He
replied iu the negativp. There were eicellenl editions
of ths principal historical writers, and an extensile
eolleclion of (ravels. The most Taluahle work was an
edition of £iu(iilAiiii,- there was also a MS. or two.
All the books were in eicelleoE condition; in number,
considerably above six thousand, near seven perhaps.
He should have read himself mad if there had been
noTelty enough, and he had stayed much longer.
" ' I broke away, and dashed among the mountains.
There is eicellent reading there, loo, equally to my
taste. Did you ever travel alone among niounUins? '
•• I replied that 1 had, and been fully sensible of
their mighty impressions. ■ Do you retain Gibbon's
" ' It is now dispersed, I believe. I made il a pre-
•ent to my excellent physician. Dr. Schall or Scholl
<I am not certain of the name). I never saw it after
WlLUAH Batbs.
Birmingham.
St. PayTi EpUOes to Seneca (Vol.Tii, pp.500.
S83.). — The affirmation so frequentl/ made and
alluded to by J. M. S. of Hull, that Seneca became,
in the lost jear of his life, a convert to Christianity,
ia an old tradition, which has just been revived by
a French author, M. Amedee Fleury, and is dis-
cussed and attempted to be established bj him at
great length in two octavo volumes, I have not
read the book, but a learned reviewer of it, M. S.
De Sacj, shovrs, with the greatest appearance of
reason and authority, that the tradition, instead
of being strengthened, is weakened by all that
M. Fleury has said about it. M. De Sacj's re-
view is contained in the Journal Jet DSbatt of
June 30, in which excellent paper he is a frequetit
and delightful writer on literary subiecta. In the
hope that it may interest and gratify J. M. S. to
be informed of M. Fteury'a new work, I send tlui
scrap of information to the " N. & Q."
JOBK Maceit.
Oifbrd.
" Bip, Bip, BvrraA .'" (Vol. vit, pp. 595. 633.).
— The reply suggested by your correspondent
R.S.F., that the above exclamation originated in
the Crusades, and is a corruption of the initial
letters of *' Hierosolyma est perdita," never ap-
peared to me to be very apposite.
In A Collection of National EnglitA Battadt,
edited and published by W. Chappie, 1838, in s
description of the song " Old Simon, the King,"
the favourite of Squire Western in TVnt Jonei, toe
following lines are quoted :
** ' Hang up all the poor htp drinkers,'
Cries old Sim, the king oFskinken." *
A note to the above states, in reference to tie
word " hep," that it was a term of derision, lo-
plied to those who drank a weak infusion of the
" hep " (hip) berry, or sloe. " Hence," says the
writer, " the exclamation of ' Hip, Wp, hurrah,'
corrupted from 'Hip, hip, away.' Tne couplet
quoted above was written up in the Apollo Room
at the Devil Tavern, TempTe Bar, where Ben
Jonson's club, the " Apollo Club," used to meet.
Many a drinker of modern Fort h;is equally good
reason to exclaim with his brethren of old, "Hip,
hip, away ! " J. Bmbkt.
Emblemata (Vol. vii., p. 614.). — I have a small
edition of the EmbUmata Horatiana, with the fol-
lowing title-page :
" Othonis Vnen I Emblemata Horatiana Imaginibai
in at incisis atque Latino, Germanieo, Gallica «t
lielgico carmine Illuslrata i AmsteUedami, apud Hen-
n WeU
. lae,
The engravings, of which there are ]
about four inches by three ; the book <
207 pages, exclusive of the index. " Amioitis
Trutino," mentioned by Mb. Weui Tatlok, is
the sixty-sixth plate on page 133.
There is another volume of Emblems by Otho
Venius, of which I have s copy :
" Amornm Emhlenuta Figuiis M.aea Ineita, studio
Othonis Vicnl : Batato Lugdunensis Antverjus Veoalia
apud Anctorem proslaut apud Hieronymum Ver-
The engravings, of which (besides an all^orical
frontispiece representing the power of Venui)
there are 124, are oval, measuring five inches in
len^h by three and a half inches m heighL The
designs appear to me to be very good. On the
July 23. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
89
first plate is the name of the engraver, " C. Boel
fecit. Each engraving has a motto, with verses
in Latin, Italian, and French. Recommendatory
verses, by Hugo Grotius, Daniel Heinsius, Max.
Yrientius, Fh. Rubentius, and Petro Benedetti,
are prefixed. It appears from Rose*s Biographical
Dictionary (article "Van Veen"), that Venius
published another illustrated work, The Seven
Ttoin Sons of Lara. Is this work known ?
Horace Walpole did not appreciate Venius. He
says :
**The perplexed and silly emblems of Venius are
well knowtL*'—' Anecdotes of Paintittfff vol. ii. p. 167.
The Emblems of Gabriele Rollenhagius (of
which I have also a copy) consist of two centuries.
The engravings are circular, with a motto round
each, and Latin verses at foot. My edition was
published at Utrecht, MDCxin.
I write rather in the hope of eliciting inform-
ation, tlian of attempting to give any, on a subject
which appears to me to deserve farther inquiry.
Q.D.
Campvere, Privileges of (Vol, vii., pp. 262. 440.).
— Will your contributors J. D. S. and J. L. oblige
me with references to the works in which these
privileges are mentioned P
They will find them noticed also at pages 67.
and 68. of the second volume of L. Guicciardini*s
Belgium (ed. 1646) : " Jiw. Oruis libera.'' This
is mentioned as one of the privileges of Campvere.
Can any of your legal friends tell me what this is,
and where I may find it treated of? E.
Slang Expressions : " Jtist the Cheese " (Vol. vii.,
p. 617.). — This phrase is only some ten or
twelve years old. Its origin was this : — Some des-
perate witty fellows, by way of giving a comic
turn to the phrase ** C*est une autre chose,** used
to translate it, " That is another cheese ; ** and after
awhile these words became ^' household words,**
and when anything positive or specific was in-
tended to be pointed out, " That's the cheese ** be-
came adopted, which is nearly synonymous with
" Just the cheese.*' Astolpho.
Tlie Honorable Miss JE, St, Leger (Vol. vii.,
p. 598.). — Perhaps your correspondent Mb.
IBreen may like to be informed that the late
General the Honorable Arthur St. Leger related
to me the account of his relative having been made
a master mason, and that she had secreted herself
in an old clock-case in Doneraile House, on pur-
pose to learn the secrets of the lodge, but was dis-
covered from having coughed. The Rev. Richard
Arthur St. Leger, of Starcross, Devon, has an en-
graving of the lady, who is represented arrayed in
all the costume of a master mason, with the apron,
ring, and jewel of the order. W. Collyns.
Harbow*
Queries from the Navorscher (Vol. vii., p. 595.).
— "The Choice of Hercules," in the Taller, was
written by Addison; Swift did not contribute
more than one article to that publication, a treatise
on *' Improprieties of Language.** The allegory of
" Religion being the Foundation of Contentment**
in the Adventurer , was the work of Hawkeswortb,
to whose pen most of those papers are attributable.
" Amentium hand amantium.** — The alliteration
of this passage in the Andria of Terence is some-
what difficult to preserve in English ; perhaps to
render it
•* An act of frenzy rather i^kKw friendthip,**
would keep up the pun, though a weak translation,
bringing to mind the words of the song :
** O call it by some other name.
For friendship is too cold.**
In French the expression might be turned "foUe-
ment plut6t que fol&trement,** although this is a
fault on the other side, and a stronger word than
the original. T. O. M.
" Pity is ahin to love ** (Vol. i., p. 248.). —
Though a long time has elapsed since the birth-
place of these words was queried, no answer has,
I think, appeared in your columns. Will you then
allow me to refer H. to Southern*s Oroonoko^
Act II. Sc. 1. P
«* Blandford, Alas ! I pity you.
Oroonoko, Do pity me ;
Pity's akin to love, and every thought
Of that soft kind is welcome to my soul.
I would be pity*d here.**
W. T. M.
Hong Kong.
MiflttUiincaxti*
KOTE8 ON BOOKS, ETC.
Our library table is covered at this time with books
for all classes of readers. The theological student will
peruse with no ordinary interest the learned Disserta"
Hon on the Origin and Connexion of the Gospels, with a
Synopsis of the Parailel Passages in the Original and
Authorised Version, and Critical Notes, by James Smith,
Esq., of Jordan Hill : and when he has mastered the
arguments contained in it, he may turn to the new
number of The Journal of Sacred Literature, in which
will be found a great variety of able papers. Our
antiquarian friends will be gratified with a volume
compiled in a great measure from original family
papers, by its author Mr. Bankes, the Member for
Dorsetshire; and which narrates The Story of Cor/e
Castle, and of many who have lived there, collected from
Ancient Chronicles and Records ; also from the Private
Memoirs of a Family resident there in the Time of the
Civil Wars, The volume, which is with good feeling
inscribed by the author to his friends and neighbours^
Members of the Society for Mutual Improvement in
the borough of Corfe Castle, contains many interesting
90
NOTES AND QUEBIEa
[No. I9S.
nMicM ofhi9enc»tors,iheire)l-known jndg*, SirJiAn
Bankei and his Isd; — ao nwinanble far her gallant
defiince of Cotfe C»Mle— drmwn 6om the femilj papen.
3^ Boynl DticaU of Ntltea aad tTtBiafflim fiom Ed-
amrd /„ Kii^ of EnpUad, witA Tailit of Pedigrtt and
Genialegieai Mtmoirt, compiled bj C. E. Frtoeb, ia >
boiidBomelf pointed volume, which will pleasa the
gencilogiu ; while the bistoiimd Uudeot will be moie
interested in The Flawtri of fliHory, tiptai^ luch oi
Ttlate to lit Again of Brilamfrom Ikt Btgiaiting of the
World to tht Ftar 1307, calletted by Matthea iff Ifal-
miniltr, tramlaled by C. D. Vongc, Vol. I., a new vo-
lume of Bohn's Anliqaarias Library, and an important
addition tohia series oftranslation«<rf OUT call; national
chioDicles. The daiBical student ia indebted to the
same publisher fur the aecond Tolume of Mr. Owen's
JVan»fa(i'on of tht Orgaaan, or Ltigical Trtatiia of
AriilalU : nor will he regard ai the least important
addiUon to his libraiy, the new Part (No. VII. ) of
Smith's Dictionary of Crttk and Soman Giegraphy,
vhich extends from Cyrrhui to Etruria, and is distia-
gnished by the same eicellencea aa the preceding Paris.
We must conclude these Notes with a brief reference
to a handsome reprint of the great >rark of De Quincy,
the appearance of which in the London Magoiiae some
tbirlj jears wuce crealed so great a senealioo, we
mean of couise his Cmfenioia of an Eagliti Opiuia-
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CONTENTS.
Page
Books chained to Desks in Churches : Font Inscription :
Parochial Libraries, by W. Sparrow Simpson, B.A. -
Real Signatures versus Pseudo-names, by the Rev. James
Graves --_.--
Popular Stories of the English Peasantry, by Vincent
T. Sternberg .-----
Shakspeare Correspondence^y Cecil Harbottle, Sec. -
Epitaph and Monuments in Wingfield Church, Suffolk -
Original Royal Letters to the Grand Masters of Malta -
Minor Notes :— Meaning of *' Clipper ".» Anathema,
Maran-atha — Convocation and the Society for the
Propagation of the Gospel in Foreign Parts — Pigs
said to see the Wind — Anecdote of the Duke of
Gloucester - • - •
93
- 94
94
95
98
99
. 100
Queries : —
Lord William Russell
Ancient Furniture — Prie-Dieu -
. 100
- 101
Minor Queries : —Reynolds* Nephew —Sir Isaac New-
ton— Limerick, Dublin, and Cork — Praying to the
West — Mulciber — Captain Booth of Stockport —
" A saint in crape" — French Abbes — What Day is it
at our Antipodes ?— " Spendthrift " — Second Growth
of Grass — The Laird of Brodie — Mrs. Tighe, Au-
thor of " Psyche "— Bishop Ferrar — Sir Thomas de
Longueville — Quotations wanted— Symon Patrick,
Bishop of Ely : Durham : Weston : Jephson — The
Heveninghams of Suffolk and Norfolk — Lady Percy,
Wife of Hotspur (Daughter of Edmund Mortimer, Earl
of March)— Shape of Coffins— St. George Family Pic-
tures— Caley (John), "Ecclesiastical Survey of the
Possessions, 8tc. of the Bishop of St. David's," &c. —
Adamson's " Lusitania lllustrata"— Blotting-paper —
Poetical Versions of the Fragments in Athenseus
Bbplibs : •—
Robert Drury ..-.--
The Termination -by - - • - -
The Kosicrucians, by William Bates ...
Inscriptions on Bells, by W\ Sparrow Simpson, B.A. -
Was Cook the Discoverer of the Sandwich Islands ? by
C. E. Bagot ------
Megatherium American um, by W. Pinker ton .
Miscellaneous : —
Books and Odd Volumes wanted -
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisements . . .
102
104
105
106
108
108
109
Photographic Correspondence :— Stereoscopic Angles
— Yellow Bottles for Photographic Chemicals - 109
Replies to Minor Queries : — Earth upon Earth, &c.
— Picalyly — Mr. Justice Newton — Manners of the
Irish — Anns of the See of York — " Up, Guards, and
at 'em ! " — Coleridge's Christabel : the 3rd Part —
Mitigation of Capital Punishment — The Man with
the Iron Mask — Gentleman executed for Murder of a
Slave — Jahn's Jahrbuch — Character of the Song of
the Nightingale, &c. . - . . - 110
. 114
. 114
. 115
Vol. VIII. — No. 196.
BOOKS CHAINED TO DESKS IN CHURCHES: FONT
INSCRIPTION : PAROCHIAL LIBRARIES.
It would be interesting to have a complete list
of the various books still to be found chained to
desks in our ancient churches. The " Bible of the
largest volume," the " Books of Homilies allowed
bj authority," and the Book of Common Prayer,
are ordered by Canon 80. to be provided for every
church. In some places this regulation is still com-
plied with : at Oakington, Cambridgeshire, a copy
of a recent (1825) edition of the Homilies lies on
a small desk in the nave. But besides these au-
thoritative works, other books are found chained
to their ancient desks : at Impington, Cambridge-
shire are, or were, " three black-letter volumes of
Fox*8 Martyrs chained to a stall in the chancel."
(Paley's Ecclesiohgisfs Guide, ^c.) At St. Ni-
cholas, Rochester, chained to a small bracket desk
at the south side of the west door, is a copy of A
Collection of Cases and other Discourses to recover
Dissenters to the Church of England, small 8vo.,
1718. The Paraphrase of Erasmus may probably
be added to the list (see Professor Blunt's Sketch of
the History of the Reformation, 10th edit., p. 130.),
though I cannot call to mind any church in which
a copy of this work may now be found. In the
noble minster church at Wimborne, Dorsetshire,
is a rather large collection of books, comprising
some old and valuable editions : all these books
were, and many still are, chained to their shelves ;
an iron rod runs along the front of each shelf, on
which rings attached to the chains fastened to the
covers of the works have free play ; these volumes
are preserved in an upper chamber on the south
side of the chancel. The parochial library at St.
Margaret*s, Lynn, Norfolk, is one of considerable
interest and importance ; amongst other treasures
are a curious little manuscript of the New Testa-
ment very neatly written, a (mutilated) black-
letter copy of the Sarum Musal, and many fine
copies of the works of the Fathers, and also of the
Reformers ; these are preserved in the south aisle
of the chancel, which is fitted up as a library, and
are in very good order. At Margate Church are
a few volumes, of what kind my note-book does
94
NOTES AND QUERIESL
[No. 196.
not inform me. I may also mention, in connexion
with St. Nicholas, Rochester, that the font is oc-
tagonal, and inscribed with the following capital
letters, the first surmounted by a crown :
C.B.I.
. A . K.
The large panel on each side contains one of the
letters ;°the font is placed close to the wall, so
that the remaining letters, indicated by asterisks,
cannot now be read : the sexton said that the
whole word was supposed to be "Christian," or
rather "Cristian." Beside the font is a very
quaint iron bracket-stand, painted blue and gold,
" constructed to carry " two candles.
TV. Spaeeow Simpson.
P. S. — Permit me to correct an error of the
press in my communication at p. 8. of your present
volume, col. 1.1. 10. from bottom; for "worn,"
read " won."
BEAL SIGNATUBES VEBSUS PSEUDO-NAMES.
It is pleasant to see so many of the correspon-
dents of " N. & Q." joining in the remonstrance
against the anonymous system. Were one to set
about accumulating the reasons for the abandon-
ment of pseudo-names and initials, many of the
valuable columns of this periodical might be easily
filled ; such an essay it is not, however, my in-
tention to inflict on its readers, who by a little
thought can easily do for themselves more than a
large efiusion of ink on the part of any corre-
spondent could effect. I shall content myself with
recounting the good which, in one instance, has
resulted from a knowledge of the real name and
address of a contributor.
The Rev. H. T. Eixacombe (one of the first to
raise his voice ngainst the use of pseudo-names)
having observed in " NT. & Q." manj communi-
cations evincing no ordinary acquaintance with
the national Records of Ireland, and wishing to
enter into direct communication with the writer
(who merely signed himself J. F. F.), put a Query
in the "iJotices to Correspondents," begging
J. F. F. to communicate his real name and address.
There in all probability the matter would have
ended, as J. F. F. did not happen to take
"N. & Q.," but that the writer of these lines
chanced to be aware, that under the above given
initials lurked the name of the worthy, the cour-
teous, the erudite, and, yet more strange still, the
unpaid guardian of the Irish Exchequer Records
— James Frederick Ferguson, — a name which
many a student of Irish history will recognise with
warm gratitude and unfeigned respect. Now it
had so happened that by a strange fortune Mb.
Ellacombe was the repository of information as
to the whereabouts of certain of the ancient
Rteords of Ireland (see Mb. Ellacombe's notice
cf the matter, Vol. yiii., p. 5.), abstracted at some
former period from the " legal custody " of some
heedless keeper, and sold by a Jew to a German
gentleman, and the result of his communicating'
this knowledge to Mr. Ferguson, has been the'
latter gentleman's "chivalrous" and successful
expedition for their recovery. The English Qmr'
terly Review (not Magazine^ as Mb. KmkcoMBB
inadvertently writes), in a forthcoming article on
the Records of Ireland, will, it is to be hoped,
give the full details of this exciting record hunt,
and thus exemplify the great utility^ not to speak
of the manliness, of real names and addresses,
versus false names and equally Will-o'-tbe-Wisp
initials. James Gbatss.
Kilkenny.
POPULAB STOBIES OF THE ENGLISH PBASAJITBT.
(Vol. v., p. 363. &C.)
Will you allow me, through the medium of " N.
& Q.," to say how much obliged I should be for
any communications on this subject. Since I last
addressed you (about a year ago) I have received
many interesting contributions towards my pro-
posed collection ; but not, I regret to say, quite to
the extent I had anticipated. My own researches
have been principally confined to the midland
counties, and I have very little from the north
or east Such a large field requires many gleaners,
and I hope your correspondents learned in Folk-
lore will not be backward in lending their aid to
complete a work which Scott, Southey, and a
host of illustrious names, have considered a desi-
deratum in our national antiquities.
I propose to divide the tales into three classes—
Mythological, Humorous, and Nurse-taies. Of
the mythological I have already giv6n several
specimens in your journal, but I will give the
following, as it illustrates another link in the
transmission of Mb. Keightley's Hindustani
legend, which appeared in a recent Number. It is
from J!^orthamptonshire.
T?ie Bogie and the Farmer.
Once upon a time a Bogie asserted a claim %o a
field which had been hitherto in the possession of
a farmer; and after a great deal of disputing,
they came to an arrangement by agreeing to
divide its produce between them. At seed time,
the farmer asks the Bogie what part of the crop
he will have, " tops or bottoms." " Bottoms," said
the spirit : upon which the crafty farmer sows the
field with wheat, so that when harvest arrives thd
corn falls to his share, while the poor Bogie is
obliged to content himself with the stubble.
Next year the spirit, finding he had made such an
unfortunate selection in tne bottoms, chose the
tops ; whereupon cunning Hodge set the field
with turnips, thus again outwitting the simple
July 30. 1853.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 96
claimant. Tired of this unproGUible farming, the Any notes of legends, or Ruggesttons of anj
Bogie agrees to hazard his claims on a moving' kind, forwarded to mj addreaa as below, will be
match, Ihinking that his supernatural atrengch thaukfull/ received and acknonledoed.
vould give him an easy victorj ; but before the Yikcbht T. Siebsbbbo.
day of meeting, the cuiming earth-tiller procures 15, Slors Street, Bedford Square,
a number of iron bars which he stows among the
grass to be mown by his opponent; and when the
tri.l oommenM. tk. Miu.pecting goblio «nd. bi. ,,„„„„ co..«.poNra»CE.
progress retarded by bis scythe coming into con-
tact with these obstacles, which he takes to be The old Corrector on " The WiTiier'i Talc."—
Bome very hard — very hard — species of dock. I am glad to find that you have another corre-
" Mortal hard docks, these," s^d he ; " Nation spondent, and a very able one too, under the sig-
hard docka ! " His blunted scythe soon brings nature of A. £. B., who takes the same view of
him to a stand Btlll, and as, in such cases, it is not " Aristotle's cheeks " as I have done ; though I
allowed for one to sharpen without the other, he think he might have paid mc the compliment of
turns to his antagonist, now far ahead, and in- J<f< noticing my prior remonstrance on this suh-
quires, in a tone of despair, "When d'ye wiffle- ject. It is to be lamented, that Ma. Collier
waffle (whet), mate ?" " Waffle 1 " said the should have hurried out his new edition of Sbak-
■, with a well-feigned stare of amazement, speare, adopting all the swefeping emertdatUm* of
*' O, about noon mebby." " Then," said the de- bis newly-found commentator, without paying Iha
Bpairing spirit, "That tbief of a Christian has done slightest heed to any of the suggestions which have
me i " and so saying, he disappeared and was never been offered to him in a friendly spirit, or afford-
beurd of more. ing time for tha farther objections which are con-
Under Nvrse-tales, I include the extremely tinually pouring in. At the risk of probably
puerile stories of the nursery, often (as in the wearying some of your readers, I cannot forbear
-German ones) interlaced with rhymes. The foU submitting to you a few more remarks ; but I shall
lowing, from the banks of the Avon, sounds like confine tbeoi on this occasion to one play. The
sn echo from a Gterman story-book. Winier'a Tale: which contains, perhaps, as many
T III VU poetical beauties as any single work of our great
±,ilUe ±.Uy. dramatic bard. With reference to the passage
In the old time, a certain good king laid all the quoted in p. 437., I can hardly believe that Shak-
ghosts, and hanged all the witches and wizards speare everwrotesucha poorunmeaningfine bs>—
save one, who fell into a had way, and kept .. . . they arc false as ^^ ««*.."
a school in a small vdlafie. One day Little Elly ^ . ..,,..
looked through a chink-hole, and saw him eat- '"'.'' .'^'"! ^ perceive any possible objection to the
ing man's flesh and drinking man's blood; but """'E'"*" "ords "oer dyed blacks. They may
Little Elly kept it all to herselt; and went to school ^"''" mean false mourners, putting an ore/- dark
as before. .And when school was OTer the Ogee semblance of grief ; or they mav allude figuraUvely
filed his eyes upon her, and said — *" "'^ material of mourning, the colours of which
' , . . T-,1 " over-dyed will not stand. In either of these
A 4*^., *"" ''.. senses, the passage is poeticol ; hut there is nothiBg
And Elly coma torn.." likel^etry in '-Sur d^ ifacit." ^
And when thev were gone he said, " What did you in p. 450. the alteration of the word " and" to
see me eat, Elly f "heaven" may be right, though it is difficult t«
■• O tomething did I see, conceive how the one can have been mistaken for
iiut ootiiing will [ (ell, the other. At all events, the sense is improved
Unto my dying day." by the change ; but I do not sec that anything is
And so he pulled off her shoes, and whipped her gained by the substitution in the next line of
till she bled (this repeated three days) ; and the "dream" for "theme." Whotever the king said
third day he took her up, and put her into a rose- '° ^^^ ravings about Hermione, might as aptly be
bush, where the rain rained, and the snow snowed, ""Hed part of bis " theme " as part of his " dream."
and the hall hailed, and the wind blew upon her The subject of his dream was in fact his tteme.'
all night. Quickly her tiny spirit crept out of Neither^ can I discover any good reason for
her tiny body and hovered round the bed of her changing, in p, 452t
parents, where it snng in a moumftil voice for " . . and nne may drink, depart,
erermore — And yet purtake no venom,"
" Dark, weary, and cold am I, into " drink a part." The context clearly shows
Litile knoneth Gunmie where am I." the author's meaning to have been, that if any one
Of the Humorous stories I have already given departed at once after tasting of the beverage, hd
S specimen in VoL t, p. 363. would have no knowledge of what he had drtink ;
96
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 19&
but if he remained, some one present might point
out to him the spider in the cup, and then *' he
cracks his gorge," &c.
In p. 460. Mb. Collier says that the passage,
"dangerous, unsafe lunes i* the king," is mere
tautology, and therefore he follows the old cor-
rector in substituting ^^unsane lunes.'^ Now it
strikes me that there is quite as much tautology
in " unscme lunes " as in the double epithet, " dan-
gerous, unsafe." It is, in fact, equivalent to " in-
sane madness ; " and, moreover, drags in quite
needlessly a very unusual and uncouth word.
In p. 481. we have the last word of the follow-
ing passage —
" I never saw a vessel of like sorrow.
So fiird and so becoming," -»
converted into " o'er-running.^^ This may possibly
be the correct reading ; but, seeing that it is im-
mediately followed by the words —
«* . . .in pure white robes.
Like very sanctity,"
I question whether " becoming " is not the more
natural expression.
** There weep — and leave it crying,"
is made —
" There wend — and leave it crying,"
which I submit is decidedly wrong. I will not be
hypercritical, or I might suggest that in that case
the words would have been ^Hhither wend;" but I
maintain that the change is contrary to the sense*
The spirit of Hermione never could have been in-
tended to say that the child should be left crying.
She would rather wish that it might not cry ! The
meaning, as it seems to me, is, that Antigonus
should weep over the babe, and leave it while so
weeping.
In p. 487. the words " missingly noted" are
altered to " musingly noted," which is a very ques-
tionable improvement. Camillo, missing Florigel
from court, would naturally note his absence ; and
he may have mused over the causes of it, but
there could be no necessity for musing to note the
fact of his absence : and I cannot help thinking
that the word missingly is more in Shakspeare*s
style.
I cannot subscribe at all to the alteration in
p.492. of the word " unrolled " to " enrolled." To be
enrolled and placed in the book of virtue is very
like tautology ; but I conceive Shakspeare meant
Autolycus to wish that his name might be unrolled
from the company of thieves and gypsies with
whom he was associated, and transferred to the
book of virtue.
I am entirely at issue with the old corrector
ppon his emendation in p. 498. :
** . . Nothing she does or seemst
But smacks of something greater than herself; '*
he says, ought to be : " Nothing she does or says,^^
And how does Mb. Collier explain this misprint?
Why, by stating that formerly "says" was often
written " sales." Now, I cannot for the life of me
discover why the word "saies" should have beea
mistaken for "seems," any more than the word
** says." But surely the phrase, " nothing she
does or seems," is far more poetical and elegant
than the other. It says in effect : there is nothing
either in her acts or her carriage, ** but smacks of
something greater than herself." We have posi-
tive evidence, however, that the passage could not
have been "nothing she does or says," viz. that
this speech of Polixenes immediately follows a
lonff dialogue between Florizel and Perdita, which
could not have been overheard, because CamiUe
directly afterwards says to the king :
«<
He tells her something.
That makes her blood look out.**
Thereby clearly proving, that the king could not
have been remarking on what she said.
The transformation of the last-mentioned line
into —
« That wakes her blood — look out !*•
cannot, I think, be justified on any ground. He
tells her something which " makes her blood look
out." That is, something which makes her blush
rush to the surface to look out upon it I What
can be more natural ? The proposed alteration is
not only unnecessary, but awkward !
In p. 499., if the words " unbraided wares" must
be altered, I see no reason for the change to " «n-
broided" wares. It seems to me that embraided
would be the most proper word.
What possible reason can there be for convert-
ing " force and knowledge," in p. 506., to " sense
and knowledge ? " If I may be excused a play
upon the words, I should say the sense of the pas-
sage is not at all improved, and the force is en-
tirely lost.
I must protest most decidedly against the cor-
rection of the following lines, p. 507. :
" . . . . Can he speak ? hear ?
Know man from man? dispute his own estate?**
Dispute his own estate means, defend his property,
dispute with any one who questions his rights.
The original passage expresses the sense quite
perfectly, while "dispose his own estate" appears
to me poor and insipid in comparison.
Mr. Collier's objection to the speech of
Camillo, in p. 514.,
** . . it shall be so my care
To have you royally appointed, as if
The scene you play were mine ; "
is, that to make the scene appear as if it were
Camillo's, could be of no service to the young
prince. Now Camillo says nothing about the scene
appearing as his. He says he will have the prince
royally appointed, as if the scene he played were
really his own : that is, as if he were the party
interested in it, instead of the prince.
JuLT 30. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
97
The reading of the old corrector—.
. A.ir
The Kcne <rou pla; vete tiue,"
iTOuld be nonsense ; because, so for as the [>Tince
appearing to be Bohemia's son (which was what
he was most amioua about), the scene to be
plitred was really tmt !
The lust correction I have now to notice i» in
the suliloquj of Autoljcua in p. £22. : where Mb.
CoLLiEB prr>po8es to read, " who knows how that
may turn luck to mj advantage," instead of " may
turn hack to raj advantage." I see no advantage
in the change, but the very reverse. " Who
knows but my availing myself of the means to do
the prince my master a service, may come back to
tue in the shape of some advancement P" This
seems to me to be the author's meaning, and it is
legitimnlcly expressed. How frequently it has
been said Uiat an evil deed recoils upon the head
of the perpetrator! Then why not a good deed
turn back to reward the doer ? Cecil Ha.bbottle.
F. S. — It is rather singular that A. E. B., who,
as I have already shown, has so completely ahelned
me in bis remarks upon "Aristotle's checks,"
should now complin of the yerj same thing him-
self, and snj that his " humble auxilia have been
coolly appropriated, without the slightest acknow-
ledgment." However, as our opinions coincide
upon the passage in question, I am not disposed
to pick a quarrel with him. I cannot, however, at
all concur in his alteration of the passage in King
Lear : " Our means secure us," to " Our means
reciae us." I will certainly Leave him " in the
quiet possession of whatever merit is due to this
rettoration," or rather this invention I Can A. E. B.
show any other instance in which Shnkspeare has
used the TCrb reciue; or will he point out any
other author who has adopted it in the sense re-
ferred to ? Johnson culls it a "juridical word :"
and T certainly have no recollection of having met
with it, except in judicial proceedings.
I Clin neither subscribe to the emendation of
A. E. B., nor to that of the old commentator, but
inRnitely prefer the original words, which appear
to me perfectly intelligible. The sense, as it
strikes me, is, that however we may desire things
which we have not, the meant we already possess
are sufficient for our security ; and even our de-
J^cU prove serviceable. Blinilness, for instance,
will make a man more careful of himself; and
then the other faculties he enjoys will secure him
from harm.
"King Lear," Act IV. Se. 1.—
" Our meini secure ui, and our mere defeela
Prove our commodiciei.'*
1 defence of this
o which he
cough are both deceptive, the word "recuse" is
nownere to be found in Shakspeare ; nor, as far as
I know, in any dramatist of the age. If it be used
by any of the latter, it is probably only in the
strict legal meaning, which is quite different fronl
that which A.B. B. would attach to it. This is
conclusive with me; for I hold that there is no
sounder canon in Shakspearian criticism than
never to introduce by conjecture a word of which
the poet does not himself elsewhere make use, or
which is not at least strongly sanctioned by co-
temporary employment.
I therefiire, as the passage is flat nonsense, re-
turn to the well-abused "
dester emendation, " want
And now permit one v
deceased and untoward personage.
I think much of the unpopularity int
has fallen with a certain class of critic
to their not allowing him fair play.
Suppose a MS. placed in our hands, containing,
beyond all doubt, what Ma. Collieb's corrected
second fulio is alleged to contain, authoritatire
emendations of the text : what should we, a priori,
expect to find in it?
That text is abominably corrupt beyond a
doubt ; it contains many impossible readings,
which must he misprints or otherwise erroneous ;
many improbable readings, harsbi
' tciuate, and the like.
Now it is excessively unlikely that a truly cor-
rected copy, could we find one, would remove all
the impossible readings, and leave all the impro-
bable ones.
It is still more unlikely that, in correcting the
improbable passages, it would leave those to which
Mr. A., or Mr. B., or Mr. C, ay, or all of us to-
gether, have formed an attachment from habit,
predilection, or prejudice of some kind. Such
Ebrases as " the blanket of the dark," " a man that
ath had losses," "unthread the rude eye of re-
bellion," and many more, have become consecrated
in our eyes by habit; they have assumed, as it
were, the character of additions to our ordinary
Tocabulary ; and yet I think sound reason itself,
and iJiat kind of secondary reason or instinct which
long familiarity with critical pursuits gives us,
combine to suggest that, occurring in a corrupt
text, they are probably corruptions; and cor-
ruptions in lieu of some very common and even
prosaic phrases, such as the corrector substitutes
for them, and such as no conjectural critic would
venture on.
In short, the kind of disappointment which
many of these corrections unavoidably give to the
reader, is with me an argument in favour of tbeie
genuineness, not against it • ■ j
And, lastly, in so very corrupt a text, it is a
priori probable that manv phrases which appear
"aecore," but that, unless my memory and Ayi- to need no correction at aU, are misprints or mis-
98
NOTES AND QUERIED
[No. 196.
takes nevertheless. It is probable that the true
text of the poet contained many variations utterly
unimportant, as well as others of importance, from
the printed one. Now here it is precisely, that
we find in the corrector what we should anticipate,
and what it is difficult to account for on any
theory disparaging his authority. What could
have induced him to make such substitutions as
swift for " sweet," then for " there," all arose for
** are arose," solemn for " sorry," fortune for
" nature," to quote from a single play, the Comedy
of Errors^ which happens to lie before me, — none
of them necessary emendations, most of them
trivial, unless he had under his eye some original
containing those variations, to which he wished
his own copy to conform ? It is surely wild
guessing to attribute corrections like these to a
mere wanton itch for altering the text ; and yet no
other alternative is suggested by the corrector's
enemies.
I am myself as yet a sceptic in the matter,
being very little disposed to hasty credulity on
such occasions, especially where there is a possi-
bility of deceit. But I must say that the doctrine
of probabilities seems to me to furnish strong ar-
guments in the corrector's favour; and that the
attacks of professed Shakspearian critics on him,
both in and out of " N. & Q.," have hitherto
rather tended to raise him in my estimation.
H.M.
i Aristotle's Checks t. Aristotle's Ethics, —
*' Only, good master, while we do admire
This virtue, and this moral discipline.
Let's be no stoicks, nor no stocks, I pray ;
Or so devote to Aristotle's checks.
As Ovid be an outcast quite abjur'd."
Taming of the Shrew, Act I. Sc. 1 ,
The following are instances of the use of the
substantive check by Shakspeare :
« Orlando. A man that had a wife with such a wit,
might say, — * Wit whither wilt?*
** Bosalind. Kay, you might keep that check for it,
till you met your wife's wit going to your neighbour's
bed."
" Falstaff. I never knew yet, but rebuke and check
was the reward of valour."
^ Antony, This is a soldier's kiss ; rebukable.
And worthy shameful check it were to stand
On more mechanic compliment."
" Belarius O, this life
Is nobler, than attending for a check."
** lago. However, this may gall him with some
check,"
*' Desdemona, And yet his trespass, in our common
reason
is not almost a fault
To incur a private cheek,"
These instances ma^ show that the word in
question was a favourite expression of the poet.
It is true there was a translation of the !Ethics of
Aristotle in his time, The Ethiqucs of Aristo&e.
If he spelt it ethiques, no printer would have blun-
dered and substituted checks.
Judge Blackstone suggested ethicks^ but John-
son and Steevens kept to checks. And Johnson,
in his Dictionary^ sub voce Devote, quotes the pas-
sage, but which, by a strange printer's misreaoing,
is referred to " Tim. of Ath.' instead of Tarn, of
Sh, in Todd's edit. o£ Johnson's Dictionary (1818).
W.N.
Fall Hall.
EPITAPH AMD HOKT7MEKT8 IK WINGFIIXI) GHTJBCB^
SUrPOLK.
I am not aware if the following epitaph has
yet appeared in print ; but I can safel v assert
that it really has a sepulchral origin ; unlike those
whose doubtful character causes them to be placed
by your correspondent Mb. Shibi<et Hibbbbd
among the "gigantic gooseberries** ("N". & Q.,"
Vol. vii., p. 190.). I copied it myself from a grave-
stone in the churchyard of the village of Wing-
field, Suffolk. After the name, &c. of the (k-
ceased is the following verse :
" Pope boldly says (some think the maxim odd),
• An honest man's the noblest work of God ; *
If Pope's assertion be from error clear,
The noblest work of God lies buried here.**
Wingfield Church itself is an interesting old
place, but has been a good deal mauled in times
past ; and the brasses, of which there were once
several, are all gone. It is, I believe, a good deal
noted for a parvise, or room over the porch, from
which, by an opening in the wall, a view of the
altar is obtained. There are two or three piscinas
in different parts of the church, and a sediila near
the altar, ihe most interesting objects are, how?
ever, three altar tombs, with recumbent figures of
the £arls of Suffolk ; the earliest, which is of
wood, representing either the first or second peer
of the family, with his spouse. The next in date
is that of the celebrated noble who figures in
Shakspeare's Henry VI. The monument is, if I
recollect right, of alabaster. The figure is attired
in complete armour, and was originally painted ; a
good deal of the colour still remaining. This and
the following monument are partly let into the
wall, and are surmounted by beautiful Grothic
canopies. The third is, I believe, also of alabaster,,
and is the ef^gy of (I think) the nephew of Mar-
garet of Anjou's earl, and who lies by the side of
his wife, one of Edward IV.'s family.
It is very likely that all I have been writing i&
no news to any one. In that case I have but to
ask your pardon for troubling you with suck a
worthless Note. Fxctob.
July 30. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
99
OBJGTSAL ROTAL LETTERS TO TOE QSANB MASTERS
OF MALTA.
In searching through the manuscripts now filed
away in the Record OflSce of this island with Dr.
Villa, who has charge of them, and for whose
assistance in my search I am greatly indebted, I
have been gratified by seeing several original
letters, addressed by difiereot monarchs of Eng-
land to the Grand Masters of the Order of St.
John of Jerusalem. Each of the royal letters in
the following list bears the signature of the writer :
Writer.
Date.
In what Lan-
To whore addressed, or by vihom
r*"- t
guage written.
received.
Henry VIII.
....
8th January, 1523
Latin
Villiers de L*Isle Adam.
Ditto -
....
1st August, 1524
Ditto
Ditto.
Ditto -
....
14th January, 1526
Ditto
Ditto.
Ditto -
■ - - •
10th day, 1526 (month
omitted)
Ditto
Ditto.
Ditto -
....
22ad November, 1530
Ditto
Ditto.
Ditto -
....
17th November, 1534
Ditto
Ditto.
Charles II.
....
17th January, 1667-8
Ditto
Nicholas Cotoner.
Ditto -
....
29th April, 1668
Ditto
Ditto.
Ditto -
. - - -
26th January, 1675-6
Ditto
Ditto.
Ditto -
....
I^ast day of Novem*
ber, 1674
Ditto
Ditto.
Ditto -
....
21st June, 1675
Ditto
Ditto.
James II.-
....
13th July, 1689
French
Gregory Carafa.
Anne
....
8th July, 1713
Ditto
Raymond Ferellos de Roccaful.
George I.*
....
24th August, 1722
Latin
Anthony Manoel de Villena.
James (the Pretender)
14th September, 1725
French
Ditto.
George II.
....
19th June, 1741
Latin
Emanuel Pinto de Fonseca.
Ditto -
....
8th December, 1748
Ditto
Ditto.
Ditto -
....
6th November, 1756
Ditto
Ditto.
* The letter of George I. is countersigned " Carteret;" those of George II. by "Harrington," " H. Fox,"
and " Bedford." None of the other letters in the above list bear any signature but that of the king or queen
who wrote them. Among the letters of Henry VIII,, addressed to Villiers de L'Isle Adam, there is one of
much interest. I refer to that of the earliest date, in which his majesty strongly recommended the Grand
Master to accept of Tripoli, on the coast of Barbary, and the islands of Malta and Gozo, as a residence for the
convent, which Charles V. had ofifered him. The importance oS Malta as a military station was known in
England three hundred years ago. L'Isle Adam (with the exception of La Valetta), the most distinguished of
all the Maltese Grand Masters, died on the 21st of August, 1534. The last letter of Henry VIII., addressed to
him, came to his successor, Nicholas Cotoner. On the mantle which covered the remains of thb great man these
few words were inscribed, — " Here lies Virtue triumphant over Misfortune."
Intending in a short time to examine these royal
letters more closely, and hoping to refer to them
again in " N. & Q.," I refrain from writing more
at length on the present occasion. W. W.
La Valetta, Malta.
P.S. — Perhaps the following chronological table,
referring to the Maltese Grand Masters who are
mentioned in the above Note, may not be un-
interesting to the readers of " N. & Q." :
Name.
When elected.
When deceased at Malta.
Villiers de L'Isle Adam . - - . .
Nicholas Cotoner .......
Gregory Carafa .......
Raymond Perellos -.---•-
Anthony Manoel de Villena - - • • -
Emanuel Pinto de Fonseca • . • » .
At Rhodes, 1521
At Malta, 1663
Ditto 1680
Ditto 1697
Ditto 1722
Ditto 1741
1534, 21st of August.
1680.
1690.
1720.
1736.
1773.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 196.
^InDi: fiattt.
Meaning of "Clipper." — I have more than
once been atikeil the meaning and derivation of
the term clipper, which has been so much in vo^ue
for some years pa»t. It is noer quite a nautical
term, at lenst amonz the fresh-water sailors : and
we find it most treqaentl; applied to j'achcs,
steamers, fast-sailing merchant vessels, &c. And
in addition to the colloquial use of the word, so
common in praising the appearance or qualities of
a vessel, it has become one quite recognised in the
official description pven of their ships bj mer-
ohants, &c. Thus we often see an advertisement
headed " the well-known clipper ship," " the
noted clipper bark," and so forth. This use of the
word, however, and its application to vesaeU, is
somewhat wide of the origmal.
The word in former times meant merely a
hackney, or horse adapted for the road. The
owners of such atiimala naturally valued them in
proportion lo their capabilities for such service,
among which great speed in trotting was con-
sidered one of the chief: fast trotting horses were
eagerly sought after, and trials of speed became
the fashion' A horse then, which was pre-eminent
in this particular, was termed a clipper, i. e. a
hackney, par excellence.
The original of the term ia perhaps the tbllow>
ing: Klepper-lehn was a feudal tenure, so termed
among the old Germans, where the yearly due
from the vassal to the lord was a klepper, or, in its
stead, so many bushels of oats : and the word
klepper, or Ueopper, is explained by Haltaua. Qloi.
Germ. Med. Mvi, 1738:
made lome progreu in the business referred to them,
m charter wai presently procured to place the cod-
■identioD of thnt matter in other huids, where it nov
remains, uid will, we hope, produce excellent fruiti.
But whaterer tliej are, thej must be acknowledged to
hare sprung from the overture! to tliat purpose firstmulB
by the lower house of Convocation." — Sotat Proceediuft
in till ConmcatiOM of 1705 fuiUifi^ npmtitWl, p. Ift
of Preface.
W. FxAsn.
Tor-Mohun.
Pigt said to tee ike Wind. — In Hudibraa, Inde-
pendant says to Presbyter :
*> You ilole from the beggars all your toaes.
And gifted mortifying groani ;
Had lighu when better eyes were blind.
At pigt art laid toue Ike icmrf. "
Pt. 3,0.11.1.1105:
That most delightful of editors. Dr. Zachary Grey,
with alt his muItifBrious learning, leaves us here
in the lurch for once with a simple reference to
"Hudibras at Court," Potthumous Works, p.213.
Is this phrase merely an hyperbolic wajr of
saying that pigs are very sharp -sighted, or is it an
actual piece of folk-lore expressing a belief that
pigs have the privilege of seeing " the viewless
wiud?" I am inclined to take the latter view.
Under the head of " Superstitions," in. Hone's
Year-Book for Feb. 29, 1831, we find :
" Among CI
in sayings at present i
e these, that
Rectory, Hereford.
Anathema, Maraa-atiia. — Perhaps the follow,
ing observation on these words may be as in-
structive to some of the readers of " X. & Q." as
it was to me. Maran-atha means "The Lord
Cometh," and is used apparently by St. Paul as a
kind of motto : compare j xipiat tyyij, Phil. iv. 5.
The Greek word has become blended with the
Hebrew phrase, and the compound used as a for-
mula of execration. (Sec Conybeare and Howson's
Life and EpisUee of Si. Paid, p. 64., note 4 )
F. W. J.
Convocation and the Society for the Propagation
of the Qotpel in Foreign Parte. —
"When the committee I have mentioned wai ap-
pointed, March IS, 1700, to consider what might be
done towards propagaling the Ciriitian Rdigim ai
jmfated in Ike Church of Eagtand ia our Forfign
Plantotiom 1 and the committee, composed of very
venerahle and experienced men, well Eulted for such
an inquiry, bad sat several limes at St. Paul's, and
The version I have always heard of it is —
" Pigs can see the wind 'tis said.
And it seemelh to them red."
ElBIOHXAca.
Anecdote of the Duke of Gloucetler. — Looking
through some of the Commonwealth journals, I
met with a capital mot of this spirited little Stuart.
•• It is reported that the titulsr Duke of Gloueester,
beintt informed that (he Dutch fleet wbs about the Isle
of Wight, he was asked to which side he stood most
addicted. 'Hie foung man, apprehending that his
livelihood depended on the parliament, and that it
might be on art to circumvent him, turning to the go-
vernor, demanded of him how he did construe 'Quam-
diu se bene gesserit.' " — Wccilg IiUtlligautr.
Spbsuhd.
&\initi.
LORD WIUJA.B1 EDSSEIX.
Can any of your correspondents inform me
where the virtuous and patriotic William Lord
Bussell was buried? It is singular that neither
Burnet, who attended him to the scalTold, nor his
descendant Lord John Russell in writing his life,
nor Collins's Peerage, nor the accounts and letters
of his admirable widow, make any allusion to his
July 30. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
101
remains. At last I found, in the State Trials^
vol. ix. p. 684., that after the executioner had held
Tip the head to the people, " Mr. Sheriff ordered
his Lordship*s friends or servants to take the body
and dispose of it as they pleased, being given
them by His Majesty's favour." Probably, there-
fore, it was buried at Cheneys ; but it b worth a
Query to ascertain the fact.
My attention was drawn to this omission by the
discovery of the decapitated man found at Nune-
ham Regis (" N. & Q.," Vol. vi., p. 386.), and from
observing that the then proprietor of the place
appears to have been half-sister to Lady Russell,
VIZ. daughter of the fourth Lord Southampton,
by his second wife Frances, heiress of the Leighs,
Lords Dunsmore, and the last of whom was
created Earl of Chichester. But a little inquiry
satisfied me this could not have been Lord Rus-
selFs body ; among other reasons, because it was
very improbable he should be interred at Nune-
ham, and because the incognito body had a peaked
beard, whereas the prints from the picture at
Woburn represent Lord Russell, according to the
fashion of the time, without a beard.
But who then was the decapitated man ? He
was evidently an offender of consequence, from
his having been beheaded, and from the careful
embalming and the three coffins in which his re-
mains were inclosed. The only conjecture I see
hazarded in your pages is that of Mb. Hbsleden
(Vol. vi., p. 488.), who suggests Monmouth ; but
he has overlooked the fact stated in the original
communication of L. M. M. R., that Nuneham only
came into the possession of the Buccleuch family
through the Montagues, i. e, by the marriage of
Henry, third Duke of Buccleuch, to Lady Eliza-
beth Montagu ; the present proprietor, Lord John
Scott, being their grandson. This marriage took
place in 1767, or eighty- two years after Mon-
mouth^s execution, and thirty-three years after the
death of his widow, the Duchess of Buccleuch and
Monmouth, who is supposed to have caused the
body to be removed from Tower Hill.
Notwithstanding the failure of heirs male in
three noble families within the century, viz. the
Leighs, the Wriothesleys, and the Montagus, the
present proprietor is their direct descendant, and
there are indications in the letter referred to, that
the place of interment of his ancestors, as well as
of this singular unknown, will no longer be aban-
doned to be a depository of farm rubbbh.
W. L. M.
ANCIENT 7URNITUBB — PBIB-DIEU.
Perhaps some of the readers of " N. & Q." will
be able to give me some information as to the use
of an ancient piece of furniture which I have met
with. At Codrington, a small village in Glou-
cestershire, in the old house once the residence of
the family of that name, now a farm-house, they
show you in the hall a piece of furniture which
was brought there from tne chapel when that part
of the building was turned into a dairy. It is a
cupboard, forming the upper part of a five-sided
structure, which has a base projecting equally
with the top, which itself hangs over a hollow
between the cupboard and the base, and is
finished off with pendants below the cupboard.
The panel which forms the door of the cupboard
is wider than the sides. All the panels are carved
with sacred emblems ; the vine, the instruments of
the Passion, the five wounds, the crucifix, the
Virgin and child, and a shield, with an oak tree
with acorns, surmounted by the papal tiara and
the keys. The dimensions are as follows :
Depth from front to back, 2 feet 4J inches.
Height, 4 feet 8 inches.
Height of cupboard from slab to pendants,
2 feet 6 inches.
Height of base, 9 J inches.
Width of side panels, 1 foot 8 inches ; of centre
panel, 1 foot 10^ inches.
Width of the door of the cupboard, 1 foot
6 inches.
The door has carved upon it a scene represent-
ing two men, one an old man sitting upon a chair,
the other a young one falling back from a stool ; a
table separates them ; and in the next compart-
ment (for an arcade runs through the group) a
female figure clasps her hands, as if in astonish-
ment. This I can hardly understand. But the
panel with the papal ensigns I think may throw
some light on the use of the whole. In the year
1429, «fohn Codrington of Codrington obtained a
bull from Pope Martin V. to have a portable altar
in his house, to have 'mass celebrated when and
where he pleased. I find that such a portable
altar ought to have " a suitable frame of wood
whereon to set it.'* Such altars are frequently
mentioned, though I believe very few remain ; but
I never could hear of the existence of anything to
show what the frame would be. It occurs to me
as possible that this piece of furniture may have
been used for the purpose. The whole Question
of portable altars is an interesting one, ana if this
account should by the means of " N. & Q." fall
into the hands of any one who is acquainted with
the subject, I hope he would consider it worth a
communication.
For some time I was at a loss for another in-
stance ; however, I have just received from a
friend, who took interest in the subject, a sketch
of something almost identical from the disused
chapel at Chillon in the Canton Vaud. Of this I
have not the measurements, but it stands about
breast-high. It is there called a "prie-dieu," and
is said to have belonged to the Dukes of Savoy,
but the size is very unusual for such a use. I
send sketches of each of the subjects of my Query,
102
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 196
and liopa thut, if this ehould be thought wortliy of
ft place in " N. k Q.," some one nil! be able and
wUting to afford some icformatioii aboat them. I
would add aa a farther Query, the question of the
meaning of the battle-aie and pansy, which appear
on the " prie-dieu " at Chillou. Is it a known
badge of the Savoy family t B. U. C.
MiRUt (BturM.
Regrwldt' Nephew. — In the Correspondi
" "arriok, vol. i. pp. 664. 658., 4to.
letters of Sir Joshua Reynolds regarding
David Garriok, vol i. pp. 664. 658., 4to., 1831
Joshua Reynolds re^
a play written by bis nephew, uan you tell
•( S
whether this was the Rev. Mr. Palmer, mioiaUr
of the Temple Church, and who was afterwards
Dean of Caslicl ; or had Sir Joshua any other
nephew? The letters are dated 1774, and the
author appears to have been resident in London
about that time. A. Z.
Sir Itaac Ifewton. — Which i» the paisage in
Newton's Optict to which Flamateed refers, in his
account of the altercation between them, as having
given occasion to some of the enemies of the former
to tax him with Atheism ? and is there any evi-
dence, besides what this passage may aSbrd, in
favour of Dr. Johnson's assertion, that Newlon set
CTi/a)aniafldeIf (Boswell, July 28, 1763.) The
Optici were not published till 1704, but had been
composed many years previously. J. S. Wardem.
Limerick, Dublin, and Cork.- — Can any of your
Irish or other correspondents inform me to whom
we are indebted for the lines —
" Limerick was, Dalilio is, and Cork shall be.
The fincEt city of the three" ?
Also, in what respect Limerick waa formerly bu-
periot to Dublin r If.
Dublin.
Frayiag to Sie West. — A. friend of mine told
me that a Highland woman in Strathconan, wish-
ii^ to say that her mother-in-law prayed for my
fnend daily, said : " She holds up her hands to the
Weit for yon every day." If to the Ea»t it would
have been more intelligible ; but why to the West F
L. M. M. R.
Midciher. — Who was Mulciber, immortalised (!)
in Garth's Diepensary (ed. 1699, p. 65.) as "the
Majbr of Broinicham?" My copy contwns on
the fly-leaf a MS. key to all the names save this.
H. C. Wakdb.
Kidderminster.
Captain Booth of Stoc^orl (Vol vl., p. 340.).—
Aa yet, no reply to this Query has been elicited;
but as it b a subject of some interest to both
Lancashire and Cheshire men, I shmiH Uks to
ascertain from Jatteb in what'callection be met
with the MS. copy of Captain Booth's Ordiaarf
of Arms f Its existence does not appear to have
been known to any of our Cheshire or Lancashire
historians; for in none of their works do I find
any mention of such an individual as Capt. Booth
of Stockport. Sir Feter Leycesler, in hia A^
guities of Buckhv) Hundred, Cheshire, repeatedly
acknowledges the assistance rendered him by John
Boodi of Twanbow's ifooA of Pedigrees ; but this
entleman appears merely to have collected for
'heahire, and not for Lancashire. Sir Georeo
Booth, afterwards Lord Delamere, Is the oiJy
Captain Booth I have yet met with in my limited
sphere of historical research ; and I am not aware
that he ever indulged much in genealogical study.
I. HuOBsi.
Qiester.
a saint in lawn."
W.T. M.
Whence this line P
Uong Kong.
French Abbet. — What was the precise ecclest-
Mtical and social slaias of a Frencn Abb6 before
the Revolution f W. Fxaui.
Tor-Mohua.
Wluil Dai/ it a at our ArUipodei * — F^bapi yoa
can give me a satisfactorj' answer to the followiag
question, a reply to which I have not yet beai
able to procure.
I write this at 11 p.m. on Tuesday, JuV 13 ; at
our Antipodes it is, of course, 11 a-m. ; but is it
II a.m. on Tuesday, July 12, or on Wednesday,
July 13 P And whichever it is, what is the reason
for Its beinj £0 ^ fo' 't' seems to me that the aolu-
tion of the question must be perfectly arbitrary.
H.
" SpendthH/i." — In Lord John RusseU'a Memo-
rinU of Charlet James Fox, vol. t. p. 43., there i«
a letter addressed to Mr. Hichard Fitiputrick, ill
which Mr. Fox asks " if he was in England when
Lord Carlisle's Spendthrift came out." And at the
foot of the same page there is a note in nhich it is
stated that this " was probably some periodical
paper of 1767."
My object in writing the above is for the par-
pose of asking what publication the Spend&rift
really was, and where it can be purchased or seen P
W.W.
Malta.
Second Orowth of Orass. — The second frrowth
of grass is known by different names in different
localities. In some it b called /(ig-, in others afier-
math and after-graxt. The former name la com-
mon about Uxbridge, and the latter about St(^
Pogis, in Buckinghanishire. In Uertfoidahira it ia
Jolt 30. 1853.]
N0TB8 AND QUETIIBS.
ntllnl higfrri-mntifff'i T am tint certiiln thnt this In
tlie (wirrwl nticllhiit nf (lie imme, nerer Imrlng wvn
H eillipr In wrltlnn or itlnt. In tiHcei't^riihlre
nod t5iinilirl(lf!P!'hire Ihe nnme ttMlnli mernWn, I nm
tnlil, nnil hpwe flilifh r/tftiir, miide mim \he milk
vF <'iiwH nlik'li liHte gi'RKeil pihlinli. (jnn nn/ (if
yniir ccrr^RnnniletitR (iiW In the nbove nnitieo, or
llirnir n tight iipoii llielt origin r H. W. l^
tUlli.
Th« T.itiM nf IhmllP, — Onn but of ynur corre-
PpoiiilcrilB rxi'.lniii what Jniiiiw V. vT Hv'Wlsiiil
mentis in IiIn ct^li-brnted bRlkil when he injfl :
" I llldclll T>
en»i il<
Aci'iT'llriff I" (he literHl mennini!, il wmilil leeni
thnt Ihe Lnin) of llniille nnn niiinptliiti|{ lens Ihnn
n {!<<iifl<<MinMr Conlil lii» m«\Mj Inleml lo ka-
tlripp the nllpppd niTnl iVfliwiit nf Ilrnilie finiD
Knililhle, tlie non or'Dllli, kitijr tiF Ihe J'tHx (oce
Jlfr». Tlnh', Anlhnr nf " Pfgrhf." — Tliprfl Is n
mnnunipnt In InWIiiHo'ftiMrHijnnl, ro. Kilhrnnj',
(o Ihe niomorj' of llie nnlhoreoFt of thnt WntlTnl
imi'm I'tj/rhp, Mm. MHrj 'I'ljihe, wllh h nUtne of
lipr, oniil I'l Iri- Uj KlnnMinn, which ii|ii|.emrii(, no lo
IlK Ippiiif. fioni (1.P Miiflel of ihnt cr.1el,rnlMl (ipiil|it(ir,
t hflTP fiprii runlrftdii'l.ctl. Hhn was Ihe ilnt(j(lil«
(if Ihn It'-T. W, Illncfcflird, nnri mnrrloil Mr. irpMi-j'
I'lulioof lV..<.ilF.(n,.k. Irplanr), In \7»n. 'JIhHm-
Bi!ri|iti'iii, wliirli, t tiplierp, In In eiilDleiiOP, wnn ii'jl
niWiHl In iliP nidiuimpnt In lB4fl, C'hm anr nf jour
4'nrrpc|ioii(lL'iils fnioiir me willi npopyofltf nml
wflH (hpnintiie hj flnxinnn f U (here nn* milhr-nllc
meni'iii' Mri1il!> (lellghlfnl pnelpflsr Whpndjil her
Itniiliflnil Mr. Tljihe dk' f lie l<> nnid In hnre mir-
vlrtHl hlK Inrlj, who lilcd In Intn, Imt a rimrt IIimp!
niid Ihnt he wns tlio nnllior nf n tlinlmv nf the
finiiil,/ nf Kllkfiina. I tiellere It wnn imTliiiliiijj
llio pfinfchvnrd (if tiiUlloge Ihnt Sirs, llcirinim
wrnip " The Itrnro nf a PupIpm." Rhe U rnlil to
Imri' tipen *ery hennliriil. In Ihpre miy ollipr
piit'rR»''i1 [Hirtrnlt of her In eslnlenre liecide the
wie nniiPiifd lo Ihe ceiprnl eilitliiim uf her (menu.
Anj iinrlii'iiliirs rptnllii^ In thin Indj or her hiiK-
bninl If ill he eitteeined \sj T, I). IVHtTBoRiiJi.
/7;»*o/i l-'ftrm: —Vfta llin TUnhoti fprrftr (irt-
Fnrrnr), llip iiiflrljr who mifTpred during Ilip relftn
(if MnrV, nf Ihe wnmr fflmlly b« Kerrerit (iir Kerrnrn)
fnri of rierh]' nnd NotlhiKhnm, In (lie rpl^n of
Ilenr/Ttt. r A C-mitAnT UnAnnit.
mr Tlinmniito r.ntiKHi-rlll'.^Jn (ha JMC 17/10,
n HIr Tlioiiin* tip l.nnoiietllle, Imtonet, tnui »
tlmlRnnnt In hin Mnjml/ii (lf>p(, nnd hi* cnmmlii-
ilon bure dnts flrd June, 1TIU. I abmild be gl«l
If any of r
irrespnndpnl* (.■mild Inlhnn me If
he WRfi n dwmidnnt of Urn lie LnneuPTlllp, Ihe
(■epnnd /Vrfw ArHtlPn nf B Innd'n '■ lll-rp^nllwl
chief." The tphI Hir 'rhnnin<> ile ImiiBneTllla
rppiiM>fi In the chnnOiTni'il of Ilourl jp. In Hip roiinl.v
nf Ahenkpn. Ihinttie In n imrinh friiiiirht wliU
hinlnrlo repiillpFHon!.. On Ihe hill of llnrra, with-
in n tnilQ of the pnrinh chnn-h, Unice nt on<H> nnit
Kir eier imt r jipriod lo (he rwht nml power nf Iha
Ctimlnff. I xhonhl be i-lnd In lenrii If nnr of llm
ileBPeminnlB of Ihe t.ieulfimnt J<oiii;iip»illo nllU
nnrrirp, nnd if he wnn niir (Ipsppoilnnl. nf Ihe fft-
Twite "iJe hnngnp.ill(." of (Ik- oM-ii llinp.
iilMlolmit "IIHlfll. —
(f.) " N»pr Piiil)ii|!. xlill WHiniiini!.-'
(9.) "Clipn- llip liillcr nld i-f (li•|^tl].(li(llnlpnt."
WhPll^(. f C!, MUNPFIM,!. j!»01,»l!T.
niriTilngliaiD.
Si/mm IhMrh, JtUnp of niii — Jlnrhnm ~
IVFthin ~ Jptihiin — III A Rinnll nnliililoHrniihr
of Bjnioi, I'lilrl'-l., IhP 1iMi<.,i-f. wifP i- Mrtd-it In
lin»p lippn /'•■nrl'i/'i' .tpphfrn, ernn-lnhihl cf Imilj
Iliirhnni of lliirclnll. Cnii nut nf T'mr remlerB
inform me who llild I.mlj. Diirlinin wmP
reiiphipe .fi'iih-'in wb-i ilnn^ililr-i' of Rlr (Vnc
llni.(P> .liipli-on. I (.npiir™. nf Mnllnw In Irclnnd.
line of lliolirm I'lilrii'k'o f;rnn<liliinf;l.lr.r*, I'e*
tiPlnpp, mnrrii"! K'lwnnl lVi>»liin, I liidpr-Hi-crpUry
ofHlnle. nrCiiikroiinli'Ji (llcrta?), tinprr, Whn
wnn lip, nnd nre lliere nii/ ilceotimlHiils of llili
man Inge T K. U.
7'fti* Trrr>-iii»ffhim> nf flii/fnll, nml IVni-fnU. -
'nil. niiclt'iil. r,.Miil/ Irnri'fl il? pi-diKti-" ihri.iijth
Iwenlj-livp kni.ulilp In pi ^minn lo linlllr lie-
tenlniflinme, whn lived wlnm (.'nnnle wn* kinff of
k,i>|!lnM'l, nun. 11120. (Hpe llnrlPJnn MBH. 1449.
fol. til I., i mid Riinlhpr'n Dnrlnr, fty.)
" ■• n-p kniuhl-, Wr .Inhn Ilprpnyiig-
,ln,,.i<nr|<>d n poltnlernl lirnnrh,
/nllPi' llr>«pnilit<linin nn*ipellHlI
ami AkIoii PBliilPfi, KlnHiinlKliire (IJIIiii), who mnr-
ripd Annpin, dniijihlpr nf MlKliprhert llip .IiiiIkp.
Ills eldp^t non wnn Nirlmln*, who ninrritil Kl\r,B,
dniiHhlerof Hir.lohn Ilppyorj nnd Hip oIiIp"! non
[>r iTie iRPl-nmnpil wnn I'ir Wnlter IIpTPiilnf{h«a
(inia. ob. Kiiin.
Nnw I rIwiiM TppI (jrpnilr n1.1i(ii"l In nny of
ymir rendprn If, froin aiij of llii? ]in1iliiihpd or
wrltlpn domimcnifl relnlinE In llip pniinlj nf
Hlnm>ril, or from nnj nihcr nonrpp, Iher pniiU
rhvnnr me wllh nnnwern In Ihe fiilhmlnit <j'npriei :
1. Whom did Wr IVnllnr Il-vpninghni" itiRrrj-f
Ills (*cnnrt Bon mnrrlpd the widow nf HIr Bdwird
Hlmcnn, Itnrl. j but
g. WhnI nnn Ihe nnmp of Rlr Wnlter'H H<)etk
atm, mkI wkniD did ht mmtj ? The Inns of tlila
hnin (I.I
NOTES AMD QUERIES.
[No. 19&
latter mnrriage was Charles HeTeningham of
Lichfield (ob. 1782), who married a dauahter of
Bobinson of Appleby, and John Ueveningham.
A Chip or the Out Blocs.
ladg Perq/, Wife of Hotspur (Bavghter of
Edmiatd Mortimer, Earl of March). — Upon what
authority does Mias Strickland say (Live* of the
QaeeTu of England, vol. iv. p. 300.) that it is
BtBted "by all ancient heralds" that this lady died
without issue F What herald can say this nithout
bastardising the second £arl of Nortbumberland ?
This assertion is a very sweeping one, and I have
sought in vain for the statement said to be made
by all heralds. G.
Shape of CoMru. — It would be interesting to
ascertun in what localities any peculiar form of
coffin is used ?
lu Devonshire, particularly among the farmers
and poorer classes, the ridged coffin is very ge-
neral, the end being gabled. The top, instead of
being flat with one board, is made of two boards,
like the double roof of a house ; in other respects
the shape is of the common form. The idea is,
that such cofSns resist much longer the weight of
the superincumbent earth ; but there can be no
doubt that it is a very aocient shape. Many years
ago I heard that in some parish in this county the
coffin was shaped tike a flat-bottomed boat ; the
boat shape is known to have been an old form.
H. T. EuJlCOxbb.
Clyst St. George.
St. George Family Pieturet, — In Gaa^a Sepul-
chral Monumenlt, vol. iii. p. 77., it is mentioned,
with reference to the estate of Hatley St, George,
in connty of Cnmbridge, that, at the sale of the
house in 1782, "The family pictures were removed
to Mr. Fearce's house at Cople, Bedford." Can
any one tell me if the family pictures here spoken
of irere those of the St. George family (which in-
habited the house for six hundred years) ; and if
BO, what has become of them ? B. A. S. O.
Ceylon, June 11, ISSS.
Caleg (John), " Eccleaiastieal Samei/ of the Poi-
Blotting-paper — When did blotting-paper firat
come into use. Carlyle, in hia Life of Cromw^
twice repeats that it was not known in thoae daya
Is not this a mistake? I have a piece which]
am able to refer to 1670. -SpEBiEini.
Poetical Virsiona of the Pragmenlf in Athejiaiu.
— Can any of your correspondents inform me of
the locun of any of tbe>e, in addition to BlacAwood,
xxsvi., and Eraser's Magazine T
P. J. F. GAIiTlIJA>K, B. A
^tifMti.
logue, to be privately printed. It is unknown ™
the bishop of the diocese and Mr. Black. Can
any of your readers give any information about itP
JOUH MutTIN.
Froifield.
AdamiorCa "Ztuttonia lUiutrala" — Is there any
]^ospect of Mr. Adamson continuing his Liuitaitia
Itluslrata f Could that accomplished Portuguese
student kindly inform me if there is any better
insight into Portuguese literature than tbnt con-
tuned in Bouterweck's Qesehichie der Poetie laid
BeredtamkeUt W.M.M.
BOBEBT SBDBT.
(Vol. r., p. 533. ; Vol. vii., p, 485.)
Under the conviction that Robert Drury wai t
real character, and his Madagatrar a true narra-
tive of his shipwreck, sufierings, and captivity, I
crave your permission to give a few additional
reasons why I think he should be discharged fhini
the fictitious, and admitted into the catalogne of
real and hnnafide English travellers.
I have before stated that Drury did not skulk in
the background when he published hts book in 1727i
but, on the contrary, invited the public to Tom's
Coffee-house, where he engaged to satisfy the in-
crclulous, and resolve the doubting. By the 3rd
edition of Madagascar, 1743, it farther appears
that he continued " for some years before his
death" to resort to the above-named house; "at
which place several inquisitive genilemen received
from his own mouth the confirmation of those
particulars which seemed dubious, or carried with
them the air of romance." The period was certainly
unpropitious for any but a writer of fiction, and
Drurj seems to have anticipated no higher rank
for his Treatite, in point of authenticity, than thai
occupied by the several members of the Bobineos
Crusoe school. He, however, positively- affirms it
to be "a plain honest narrative of the muter of
fact;" which is endorsed in the follovring terms
by " Capt. William Mackett :"
" Thli is to cerllff, that Robert Drary. fifteen yean
a slave in Madagascar, nov living in London, wai re-
deemed froni thence anri braught into England, hit
native country, by myselC I eateem him an honot
industTioiis man, of good reputation, and do firmly be-
lieve that the account he gives of hia itrmnge and itir-
prising adventures it genuine and authentic."
Mackett was a commander in the E. I. Comp^
lerrice ; and the condenser of Drury's MSS., afler
showing the opportunities the Captain had of as-
suring himself upon the points he cerUfies to^
characterises him as a well-known person, of the
highest integrity and honour : a man, indeed, as
unlikely to be imposed upon, as to be guilty of
lendinv himself to others, to carry out a deception
upon the public.
July 30. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
105
Mr. Burton, in his lately published "Narra-
tives," points out another source of information
regarding Drury, in the Gent. Mag. for 1769,
•where will be found an account of W. Benbow ;
in this, allusion is made to his brother John Ben-
bow, who was wrecked with Drury in the " De-
grave " Indiaman, on Madagascar. W. D., who
communicates the information to Stlvanus Ur-
ban, asserts that he recollects hearing the MS.
Journal of this John Benbow read ; and that it
afforded to his mind a strong confirmation of the
truthfulness of Drury's Madagascar. He adds
the following curious particulars anent our sub-
ject: — "Robin Drury," he says, "among those
who knew him (and he was known to many, being
a porter at the East India House), had the charac-
ter of a downright honest man, without any ap-
pearance of fraud or imposture. He was known
to a friend of mine (now living), who frequently
called upon him at his house in Lincoln*s Inn
Fields, which were not then enclosed. He tells
me he has oflen seen him throw a javelin there,
and strike a small mark at a surprising distance.
It is a pity," he adds, " that this work of Drury's
is not better known, and a new edition published*
(it having been long out of print) ; as it contains
much more particular and authentic accounts of
that large and barbarous island, than any yet
given ; and, though it is true, it is in many respects
as entertaining as Gulliver or Crusoe."
It may farther be mentioned that the French,
who have a good acquaintance with Madagascar,
** have found Drury's statement of the geography,
the natural history, the manners of the people,
and the conspicuous men of the time, in Mada-
gascar, remarkably accurate." (Bib. Gen. des
Voyages^ Paris, 1808.) Archdeacon Wrangham
says : " Duncombe (?) calls Drury's Madagascar
the best and most genuine account ever given of
the island;" and the missionary Ellis quoted
Drury without the slightest suspicion that any
doubt hangs over the genuineness of his narrative.
Drury's account of himself runs thus: — "I,
Robert Drury," he says, when commencing his
book, " was bom on July 24, 1687, in Crutched
Friars, London, where my father then lived ; but
soon after removed to the Old Jury, near Cheap-
side, where he was well known, and esteemed for
keeping that noted house called *• The King's
Head,' or otherwise distinguished by the name of
the Beef-stake House ; and to which there was all
my father's time a great resort of merchants, and
gentlemen of the best rank and character." To
this famous resort of the Revolutionary and Au-
gustan ages I lately betook myself for my stake, in
the hope that mine host might be found redolent
* The editions of Madagatear known to me are those
oM787, 1731, and 1743, by the original publisher,
Meadows, Hull, 1807, and London, 1826.
of the traditional glory of his house. But alas !
that worthy, although firmly believing in the an-
tiquity of the King's Head, and of there being
som^ hook in existence that would prove it, could
not say of his own knowledge whether the king
originally complimented by his predecessor was
Harry the Eighth or George the Fourth !
In conclusion, I would just add, is not the cir-
cumstance of our subject holding the humble post
of porter at the East India House confirmatory of
that part of his story which represents him as one
of the crew of Hon. Company s ship " Degrave,"
whose wreck upon Madagascar I take to be an
undoubted fact r What so probable as this recog-
nition, in a small provision for a man in his old
age, whose misfortunes commenced while in their
service? Finally, to me the whole narrative of
Robert Drury seems so probable, and so well
vouched for, that I have given in my adhesion
thereto by removing him to a higher shelf in my
library than that occupied by such apocryphal per-
sons as Crusoe, Quarle, Boyle, Falconer, and a
host of the like. J. O.
THE TEBMINATION -BT.
(Vol. vii., p. 536.)
I would suggest a doubt, whether the suffix - Jy,
in the names of places, afibrds us any satisfactory
evidence, per se, of their exclusively Danish origin.
This termination is of no unfrequent occurrence in
districts, both in this country and elsewhere, to
which the Danes, properly so called, were either
utter strangers, or wherein they at no time esta-
blished any permanent footing. The truth is, there
seems to be a fallacy in this Danish theory, in so
far as it rests upon the testimony of language ;
for, upon investigation, we generally find that the
word or phrase adduced in its support was one
recognised, not in any single territory alone, but
throughout the whole of Scandinavia, whose dif-
ferent tribes, amid some trifling variations of dia-
lect, which can now be scarcely ascertained, were
all of them as readily intelligible to one another
as are, at this day, the inhabitants of two adjoin-
ing English counties. If this were so, it appears
that, in the case before us, nothing can be proved
from the existence of the expression, beyond the
fact of its Norse origin ; and our reasonable and
natural course is, if we would arrive at its true
signification, to refer at once to the parent tongue
of the Scandinavian nations, spoken in common,
and during a long-continued period, amid the
snows of distant Iceland, on the mountains of
Norway, the plains of Denmark, and in the forests
of Sweden.
This ancient and widely-diffused language was
the Icelandic, Norman, or Donsk tunsa, — that
in which were written tlie Eddas and Sk^da, the
106
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 19&
Nj41a nnd Heimskringla. In it we have the suffix
5y, under the forms of the verbs ek by, eh hid, or
at hua, and ek hyggi or hyggia, manere, habitare,
incolere, struere, edificare ; also the nouns hu
(Ang.-Sax. by, Dan. ho, hy), domus, habitaculum ;
and hui, ineola, colonus, vicinus ; closely assimi-
lated expressions all of them, in which the roots
are found of our English words hide, abide, be, by
(denoting proximity), buUd, borough, bury (Ed-
mondsbury), harrow, byre, bower, abode, &c. Now,
these explanations undoubtedly confirm the inter-
pretation assigned by Mb. E. S. Taylor to his
terminating syllable; and it is probable enough
that the villages to which he refers received their
titles from the Danes, who, we know, on the sub-
jugation of its former inhabitants, possessed them-
selves of the country in which they are situated.
This, however, is a begging the question ; for,
resting simply on the evidence of the suffix, it is
equally probable that these places preserved the
names assigned to them by their former northern
colonists. But our b^ or hua, the Ang.-Sax. bugan
and bedn, and the Germ, (ich) bin and bauen, have
all been referred by learned philologists to the
Greek ^vos, or to fii6a), or to ira^a, iraOoixai ; and the
word has affinities scattered throughout numerous
languages (there are the Camb.-Brit. bydio, habi-
tare, and byw, vivere, for instance), so that we are
surrounded by difficulties, if we attempt to esta-
blish from its use any such point as that involved
in your correspondent's Query. CowgIll.
THE BOSICBUCIANS.
(Vol.vii., p.619.)
When Pope, in dedicating his Rape of the Lock
to Mrs. Arabella Fermor, was desirous of put-
ting within the reach of that lady the information
which Mb. E. S. TATiiOB has sought through your
pages, he wrote :
** The Rosicruciana are a people that I must bring
you acquainted with. The best acoount of them I
know is in a French book called Le Cornpte de Gabalis,
which, both in its title and size, is so like a novel, that
many of the fair sex have read it for one by mistake."
— Dedicatory Letter to the Rape of the Lock,
This celebrated work was written by the Abb6
Montfaucon de Villars, and published in 1670.
** C'est une par tie (says Voltaire, Siecle de Louis
XIV.) de Tancienne mythologie des Perses.
L'auteur fut tue en 1675 d'un coup de pistolet.
On dit que les sylphes Tavaient assassine pour
avoir revele leurs myst^res." In 1680, an En-
glish translation appeared (penes me), entitled :
" The Count of Gabalis ; or the Extravagant Mys-
teries of the Cabalists, exposed in Five Pleasant Dis-
courses on the Secret Sciences. Done into English by
P. A. (Peter Ayres), Gent., with short Animadver-
sions. London: printed for B. M., printer to the
Royal Society of the Sages at die Signe of the Bosy
Crusian."
The original French work went througli serenl
editions : my own copy bears the imprint of Am'
sterdam, 1715, and has appended to it La SuHe A
Cornpte de Gabalis, on JEntretiens sur les Scieneet
secretes, touchant la nouvelie Philosophies*^ &c.
So much in deference to Pope, — whose onlj
object, however, was to make Mrs. Fermor ac-
quainted with so much of Rosicrucianism as was
necessary to the comprehension of the machinery
of his poem. Mb. E. S. Tatlob must go farther
afield if he is desirous of " earning the vere
adeptus,** and becoming, like Bailer*s Malpho —
'< For Mystic Learninq wondrous able.
In magic Talisman and Cabal,
Whose primitive tradition reaches
As far as Adam*s first green breeches ;
Deep-sighted in Intelligences,
Ideas, Atoms. Influences ;
And much of TERRA-lNcooNrrA,
Th* intelligible world could say ;
A deep Occult Philosopbbr,
As learned as the wild Irish are.
Or Sir Aoripfa ; for profound
And solid lying much renowned.
He Anturofosophus, and Fludd,
And Jacob Behmen understood ;
Knew many an amulet and charm*
That would do neither good nor harm ; \
In Rosy- Crucian lore as learned
As he that vere adeptus earned.**
Hudibras, Part i. Canto 1.
These lines enumerate, in a scarcely satiricil
form, the objects and results of a study o^BosUsrui'
danism, in so far as it differs from that of alchemy
and the occult sciences. The history of the
Bosicrucians, — or rather the inquirv as to whether
actually existed at any time such a college or
brotherhood, and, if so, to what degree <2* an-
tiquity can it lay claim, — forms another and, per-
haps, somewhat more profitable subject of atten-
tion. This question, however, having been fullj
discussed elsewhere, I will conclude bv a catalofwe
raisonne of such books and essays (tiie most un-
portant of which are readily obtainable) as wiH
enable your correspondent to acquire for himself
the information he seeks.
Allgemeine und Genend Refimnation der
weiten Welt, beneben der Fama Fratemitatis, oder
Enstehung der Briiderschaft des loblichen Ordens des
Roaenkreutzesj &c. 8vo. Cassel, 1614. [Ascribed to
John Valentine Andrea. la this pamphlet occurs tba
frst mention of the society ; no allusion being made to
it in the works of Bacon, Paracelsus, Agrippa, &c. It
was republished at Frankfort in 1617 under a some-
what different title. Appended to it is a tract en-
titled " Sendbrieff, oder Bericlit an Alle welche von
den neuen Briiderscbaflfl des Ordens von itosen-Creittr
genannt etwas gelesen,'* &e. This work eontaioa a fafl
account of the origin and tenets of the hrotheflMO^
JuLT Sa 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
lor
and is the source whence modern writers have drawn
their information. It called into existence a host of
pamphlets for and against the very existence and tenets
of the society.]
Histoire de la Philosophie Hermetique, accom-
pagnee d'un Catalogue raisonn^ des Ecrivains de cette
Science, par I'Abbe Lenglet du Fresnoy. 3 vols. 12mo.
Paris, 1742.
Theomagia, or the Temple of Wisdom, containing
the Occult Powers of the Angels of Astromancy in
the Telesmatlcal Sculpture of the Persians and jEgyp-
tians ; the knowledge of the Rosie- Crucian Physick,
and the Miraculous in Nature, &c., by John Heydon.
8vo. 1664. [The works of this enthusiast are ex-
tremely curious and rare. He is also the author of
the following.]
The Wiseman's Crowne, or the Glory of the Rosie-
CrosSf &c. ; with the Regio Lucis, and Holy House-
hold of jRo5i«- Crucian Philosophers. 8vo. 1664,
Elhavarevna, or the English Physitian's Tutor in
the Astrabolismes of Mettals RosiC' Crucian^ Mira-
culous Sapphiric Medicines of the Sun and Moon, &c.,
all Harmoniously United, and Operated by Astro-
mancy and Geomancy, in so Easie a Method that a
Fine Lady may practise and compleat Incredible,
Extraordinary Telesmes (and read her Gallant's de-
vices without disturbing her fancy), and cure all
Diseases in Yong and Old, whereunto is added Pson-
thonphancia, &c. 8vo. 1665.
Dictionnaire Infernal ; ou Repertoire des Etres,
Apparitions de la Magique, des Sciences occultes,
Impostures, &c., par Collin de Pladcy. Svo. Paris,
1844.
To render this list more complete, a great num-
ber may be added, the titles of which will be found
in the following essays, from which much inform-
ation on the subject will be gained : —
New Curiosities of Literature. By George Soane,
B. A. 2 vols. Svo. London, 1849. [In vol. ii. p. 135.
is an able and interesting essay entitled " Rosicrucian-
ism and Freemasonry" in which the author, with
considerable success, endeavours to show that Rosi-
crucianism had no existence before the sixteenth
century, and is a mere elaboration of Paracelsian
doctrines : and that Freemasonry is nothing more than
an offspring from it, and has, consequently, no claim
to the antiquity of which it boasts.]
Swift's Tale of a Tub. [In Section X. of this won-
derful book will be found a caustic piece of satir« on
the futility of the Rosicrucian philosophy.]
Butler's Hudibras. [Gray's notes to part I.,
passim,']
Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions. By
Charles Mackay, LL.D. 2 vols. Svo. [In the section
devoted to the AlchymistSy is a carefully compiled
account of the Rosier ncians.']
Chambers's Papers for the People, No. 33., vol. v.,
** Secret Societies of the Middle Ages."
Idem, No. 66.^ " Alchemy and the Alchemists.*'
The Guardian, No. 166.
The SpecUtor, No. 574^
Idem, No. 379. [This number contains Budgell's
L^emi of ike Sqtukhre of Mosieruciut,'}
The Rosicrucian : a Novel. 3 vols. Svo. ;,
Zanoni. By Sir E. L. Bulwer.
After the slumber of a century, with new ob-
jects and regulations, Rosicrucianism (so to
speak) was revived in the country of its birth.
A very curious volume was published fifty years
s^o, entitled Proofs of a Conspiracy against all
the Religions and Governments of Europe^ carried
on in the secret meetings of Freemasons^ lUuminaOf
and Reading Societies, by John Kobinson, A.M.,
&C., 8vo,, London, 1798. This volume is chiefly
occupied by a history of the origin, proceedings,
and objects of the lUuminati^ a sect which had
rendered important services to revolutionary in-
terests, and laid the foundations of European
propagandism. Much curious matter relative to
this sect will also be found in George Sand's
Comtesse de Rudolstadt, vol. ii. ; upon, or just
before, its extinction, a new political association
was formed at Baden and Carlsruhe, under the
auspices of Baron von Edelsheim, prime minister
of the Elector, under the title of Die Rosenkrietzer,
This society was called into existence by a re-
actionary dread of that republicanism in politics,
and atheism in morals, which seemed at that time
to prey upon the vitals of European society. The
society soon spread, and had its affiliations in
various parts^ of Germany, giving such uneasiness
to Buonaparte, to the accomplishment of whose
projects it exercised an adverse influence, that he
despatched a secret messenger for the purpose of
obtaining information as to its projects and de-
velopments. He did everything in his power to
destroy the association, which, however, survived,
until his murder of Palm, the bookseller, for pub-
lishing the Geist der Zeit, seeming to call for a
new and modified association, led to its extinction,
and the creation of a new secret society, the cele*
brated Tungen-Bund, in its place.
It will be seen that in the foregoing I have
confined myself to that part of your correspon-
dent's Query which relates to " the Brethren of
the Rosy-Cross." I have not ventured to allude
to the Alchymists, or the writings of Paracelsus,
his predecessors and follow ei*s, which form a
library, and demand a catalogue for their mere
enumeration. If Me. E. S..Tatlob, however, is
desirous of farther information, and will favour
me with his address, I shall be happy to assist his
researches in Hermetic philosophy to the extent
of my ability, William Bates.
Birmingham.
The Society of Rosicrucians, or Rosecroix (whom
Collier calls a sect of mountebanks), first started
into existence in Germany in the seventeenth
century. They laid claim to the possession of
divers secrets, amonc^ which the philosopher's
stone was the least. They never dared to appear
publicly, and styled themselves The Invisible.
108
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 19t
In 1622 they put forth the following advertise-
ment:
** We, deputed by our College, the principal of the
brethren of the Rosicrucians, to make our visible and
invisible abode in this city, through the grace of the
Most High ; towards whom are turned the hearts of
the just : we teach without books or notes, and speak
the languages of the countries wherever we are, to draw
men like ourselves from the error of death.*'
The Illuminati of Spain were a branch of this
sect. In 1615 one John Bringeret printed a work
in Germany containing two treatises, entitled The
Manifesto and Confession of Faith of the Fraternity
of the Rosicrucians in Oermany. H. C. K.
Rectory, Hereford.
INSCBIPTIONS ON BELLS.
(Vol. vi., p. 554. ; Vol. vii., p. 633.)
My note-book contains a considerable number
of inscriptions on bells ; some extracted from
books, but others transcribed from the bells them-
selves. I send you a few of the most remarkable
inscriptions,* with one or two notes on the subject.
Chesterton, Cambridgeshire :
1. "God save the Church."
2. ** Non sono animabus mortuorum, sed viventium.*'
S. Benet*s, Cambridge (see Le-Keux' Memo*
rials) :
1. ** Of all the bels in Bennet, I am the best,
And yet for my casting the parish paid lest.
1607."
2. ** Non noraen fero ficti,
Sed nomen Benedict!. 1610.**
S. " This bell was broke, and cast againe,
by John Draper, in 1618,
as plainly doth appeare :
Churchwardens were,
Edward Dixon,
for one,
who stood close to his tacklyn,
and he that was his partner then,
was Alexander Jacklyn.**
Girton, Cambridgeshire :
'* Non clamor sed amor cantat in aure Dei.**
l^toneleigh, Warwickshire :
1. ** Michaele te pulsante Winchelcombe a petente
diemone te libera.
S. ** O Kenelme nos defende ne maligni sentiamus
focula.**
Eastry, Kent :
** One bell inscribed with the names of the church-
wardens and the maker; a shilling of William III.,
and other coins are let into the rim.**
Erith, Kent :
** A tablet in the belfry commemorates the ringing
of a peal of 726 changes in twenty-six minutes.'*
S. Clement, Sandwich, Kent :
** In the ringing chamber of this noble tower is t
windlass for lowering the bells in case of repairs be-
coming necessary, with a trap-door in the floor open-
ing into the church.**
S. Mary, Sandwich, Kent :
** This bel was bought and steeple built, a.d. 171S.
J. Bradley, R. Harvey, Cb. wardens. R. P. F."
S. Andrew, Histon, Camb. :
** Coins of Queen Anne in the rim of one bell ; but
dated 1723.**
S. Stephen's Chapel, Westminster (Weever,
Ftm. Mon., p. 491., edit. fol. 1631) :
** King Edward the Third built in the little sane-
tuarie a clochard of stone and timber, and placed therein
three bells, for the vse of Saint Stephen's Cbappel
About the biggest bell was engrauen, or cast in the
metall, these words :
' King Edward made mee thirtie thousand weight
and three :
Take mee downe and wey mee, and more you sbsU
fynd mee.*
But these bells being to be taken downe, in the raigne
of King Henry the Eight, one writes Tndemeath with
a coal :
* But Henry the Eight will bait me of my weight*"
If any farther extracts may interest you, the/
are very much at your service.
W. Spabbow Simpson, B.A.
WAS COOK THB BI8C0VEBEB OF THfi SAKDWXCK
ISLANDS ?
(Vol. viii., p. 6.)
Mb. Wabben will find this question dlscossed
by La Perouse (English 8vo. edit., vol. ii. ch. 6.)t
who concludes unhesitatingly that the Sandwidi
group is identical with a cluster of islands dis-
covered by the Spanish navigator Ghietan in 1542,
and by him named *' The Kmg*8 Islands.** These
the Si)aniard placed in the tenth, although tiie
Sandwich Islands are near the twentieth, degree
of north latitude, which La Perouse believed wss
a mere clerical error. The difference in longi-
tude, sixteen or seventeen degrees, he ascribed
to the imperfect means of determination possessed
by the early navigators, and to their ignorance of
the currents of the Pacific.
Allowing for the mistake in latitude, the Kjn|fs
Islands are evidently the same as those found on
some old charts, about the nineteenth and twen-
tieth degrees of north latitude, under the names
of La Mesa^ Los Mayos^ and La Disgraeiada;
which Capt. Dixon, as well as La Perouse, soiigfat
for in vain in the longitude assigned to them.
They appear to have been introduced into the
July 30. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
109
English and French charts from that found in the
galleon taken by Commodore Anson, and of which
a copy is given in the account of his voyage.
Cook, or Lieutenant Roberts, the compiler of ue
charts to his third voyage, retained them; and
La Ferouse was the first to erase them from the
map. There can, indeed, be little doubt of their
identity with the Sandwich Lslands. But although
Cook was not actually the first European who had
visited those islands, to him rightly belongs all the
glory of their discovery. Forgotten by the Spa-
niards, misplaced on the chart a thousand miles
too far to the eastward, and unapproached for
240 years, their existence utterly unknown and
unsuspected. Cook was, to all intents and pur-
poses, their real discoverer. C. E. Baoot.
Dublin.
MEGATHEBIUM AMEBICANUM.
(Vol. vii., p. 590.)
Ts not the cast of a skeleton in the British Mu-
seum, recently alluded to by A Foreign Surgeon,
and which is labelled Megatherium Americanum
Blume., better known to English naturalists by its
more correct designation of Mylodon rohustus
Owen ; and if so, why is the proper appellation
not painted on the label ? If that had been done,
A Foreign Surgeon would not have fallen into
the error of confounding the remains of two dis-
tinctly different animals.
Might I beg leave to add, for the information of
your correspondent, that no British naturalist " of
any mark or likelihood," has ever assumed that
(though undoubtedly sloths) either the Myhdon^
Scelidotherium^ or Megatherium^ were climbers.
Indeed, the whole osseous structure of those
animals proves that they were formed to uprend
the trees that gave them sustenance. By no other
hypothesis can we intelligibly account for the im-
mense expanse of pelvis, the great bulk of hind-
legs, the solid tail, the massive anterior limbs
furnished with such powerful claws, and the ex-
traordinary large spinal chord — all these the
characteristic features of the Mylodon.
Whether there were palms or not at the period
of the telluric formation, I cannot undertake to
say ; but as A Foreign Surgeon assumes that a
palm is an exogenous tree (!), I am induced to
suspect that his acquaintance with geology may be
equally as limited as his knowledge of botany.
Besides, what can he mean by speakmg of a sloth
*' the size of a large bear ? " W hy, the Mylodon
must have been larger than a rhinoceros or hippo-
potamus. The veriest tyro in natural history
would see that at the first glance of the massive
dceleton.
It is a painful and ungracious task to have to
pen these obseryations, especially, toO| in the case
of a stranger. But " N. & Q." must not be made a
channel for erroneous statements, and we '* natives
and to the manner born** must be allowed to know
best what is in our own museums.
W. PlNKERTON.
Ham.
PHOTOGRAPHIC CORRESPONDENCE.
Stereoscopic Angles, — Like many of your cor-
respondents, I have been an inquirer on the sub-
ject of stereoscopic angles, which seems to be still
a problem for solution. What is this problem ?
for until that be known, we cannot hope for a
solution. I would ask, is it this? — Stereoscopic
pictures should create in the mind precisely such a
conception as the two eyes would if viewing the ob"
ject represented hy the stereograph. If this be the
problem (and I cannot conceive otherwise), its
solution is simple enough, as it consists in placing
the cameras invariably 2 j- inches apart, on a line
parallel to the building, or a plane passing through
such a figure as a statue, &c. In this mode of
treatment we should have two pictures possessing
like stereosity with those on the retinas, and con-
sequently with like result ; and as our eyes enable
us to conceive perfectly of any solid figure, so
would the stereograph. I believe, therefore, that
this is, under every circumstance, the correct
treatment ; simply because every other mode may
be proved to be false to nature.
Professor Wheatstone recommends 1 in 25 when
objects are more than 50 feet distant, and this
rule seems to be pretty generally followed. Its
incorrectness admits of easy demonstration. Sup-
pose a wall 300 feet in extent, with abutments,
each two feet in front, and projecting two feet
from the wall, at intervals of five feet. The
proper distance from the observer ought to be
450 feet, which, agreeably with this rule, would
require a space of 18 feet between the cameras.
Under this treatment the result would be, that
both of the sides^ as well as the fronts^ of the three
central abutments would be seen ; whilst of all
the rest, only the front and one side would be
visible. This would be outraging nature, and
false, and therefore should, I believe, be rejected.
The eyes of an observer situated midway between
the cameras, could not possibly perceive either of
the sides of the buttress opposite to him, and only
the side next to him of the rest. This seems to
me conclusive.
Again, your correspondent *. (Vol. vii.,
p. 16.) says, that for portrait's he finds 1 in 10 a
good rule. Let the sitter hold, straight from the
front, t. e, in the centre, a box 2^ inches in width.
The result would be, that in the stereographs the
box would have both its sides represented, and
the front, instead of being horizontal, consisting
of two inclined lines, t. e. unless the cameras were
110
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 196.
I^aoed on one line, wken it would be horizontal.
In such treatment the departure from both is as
great as in the first example, and the outrage
greater, inasmuch as, under these circumBtances
(I mean a boy with a box), to any person of
common sense, the caricature would be at a glance
obvious. This rule, then, although it produces
stereosity enough, being false, should also be re-
jected.
I believe that 2^ inches will be found to be
right under any circumstance ; but should suffi-
cient reasons be offered for a better rule, I trust I
am open to conviction, and shall hail with great
pleasure a demonstration of its correctness.
Should it, however, turn out that I have given
a right definition, and a correct solution of this
most interesting problem, I shall rejoice to know
that I have rendered an essential service to a
great number of anxious students in photography.
T. L. MEBBrrr.
Maidstone.
"* Yellow Bottles for Photographic Chemicals. —
The proposal of your correspondent Geridwen to
employ yellow glass bottles for preventing the de-
composition of photographic solutions has been
anticipated. It was suggested by me, in some
lectures on Photography in November 1847, and
in January of the present year, that yellow bottles
might be so used, as well as for preventing the
decomposition, by light, of the vegetable sub-
stances used in pharmacy, such as digitalis, ipe-
cacuanha, cinchona, &c. For solutions of silver,
however, the most effectual remedy against pre-
cipitation is the use of very pure water, procured
by slow redistillation in glass vessels at a tempe-
rature much below the boiling point.
Hugh Owen.
3Sitpliei to §^inav ^ntvit€.
0
Earth upon Earthy SfC. — ^I think the information
which has been elicited in connexion with the so-
called " Unpublished Epigram by Sir W. Scott,"
"N. & Q.," Vol. vii., p. 498., sufficiently curious
to justify an additional reference to the senti-
laent in question ; the more so as I have to men-
tion the name of its putative author. In Mont-
gomery's Christian Poet, 3rd edit. p. 58., he gives,
imder the title of " Earth upon Earth," five verses,
which it would appear are substantially the same
as those published by Weaver (whose Funeral
Monuments, his only publication, I have not within
reach), but they exhibit considerable verbal dif-
ference in the verses corresponding with those
cited in " N. & Q," Vol. vii., p. 576. Montgo-
uery tells us in a note that this extract, given
under the name of William Billyng, along with
aiwther from a poem entitled "' The Five Wounds
of Christ," by the same author, were froaa **•
manuscript on parchment of great aDiiquity, in
possession of William Bateman, Esq.," of whidt
a few copies had been printed at Manchester, aad
^* accompanied by rude but exceedingly curtouB
cuts." Now who was AVilliam BiUyng? AjA
whan did he live? Montgomery saya ^^theagei
of this author is well known." The death of tke
Archbishop of Canterbury, to whom Wearer
(Fun. Mon. 1631) applies the^ratfbrd epigrapli,
'sMS. int
is temp. Edward III. Is Mr. Bateman'
hand indicating so early a date ?
J.H.
Picali^y (Vol. viii., p. 8.). — In Bamabj Kidi's
Honestie of this Age, p. 37. of the Percy Society
reprint, we find this passage :
" But be that some fortie or fifty yeares sitbens
should haue asked afler a Pickadilly, I wonder who
could haue understood him, or could haue told what a
Pickadilly had beene, either fish or flesh.*'
Little did the writer think that in future years
the name would become a "household word;"
though his prophecy as to the meaning of tiie
word has been fulfilled by the appearance of tlie
Query in the pages of " N. & Q."
The editor of the work, Mr. Peter Cunningham,
has a long note on the above passage ; and I am
indebted to him for the following.
" Ben Jonson ( }Forks by Gifford, viii. S70.) speaks
of a picardill as a new cut of band much in fashion :
* Ready to cast at one whose band stands still.
And then leap mad on a neat picardilL*
" But Middleton, The World tost at Tennis, 1620^
speaks of a pickadill in connexion with the shears, the
needle, &c. of the tailor ; from which it appears to hate
been an instrument used for plaiting the picked Van-
dyke collar worn in those days.
** Mr. GiSbrd, in a note on another passage in Ben
Jonson, says :
' Picardil is simply a diminutive o£pieca (Span, and
Ita).), a spear-head ; and was given to this article of
foppery from a fancied resemblance of its stiffimed
plaits to tl}e bristled points of these weapons. Blonnt
thinks, and apparently with justice, that PietuHUy took
its name from the sale of the ' small stiff eoUars fo
called,* which was first set on foot in a house noar the
western [eastern] extremity of the present street by
one Higgins, a tailor.* "
The bands worn by the clergy and judges^ fte.,
at the present day, are lineal descendants of the
old picadilSi reduced to a more sober cut ; and the
picked ornament alluded to by your correspon-
dent no doubt derived its name from its resem-
blance in shape to these tokens of ancient fashion.
XX. O. K*
— Rectory, Hereford.
Mr. Justice Newton (Vol. vii., pp. 52S. 600l ^
Vol. viii., p. 16.). — I did not answ^ Mb. F.
KTrrxN Lenthall's first Qnery^ because it wii
July 30. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Ill
palpable, from the context, that the ** Mr. Justice
Newton" he inquired after could not possibly be
the Chief Justice who flourished in im fifteenth
century; and because I am not aware of any
judge of the superior courts of that name, during
the time of the Commonwealth, or the years which
immediately preceded or followed that period.
Indeed, his designation as " Mr. Justice Newton,
of the Middle Temple,'" plainly proves that he
could not have been a judge upon the Bench at
Westminster. He may perhaps have been a Welsh
judge; or, remembering that "JVIr. Justice'* was
the common title for a Justice of the Peace, it is
still more probable that he was merely a magis-
trate of the county in which he resided.
EnwABD Foss.
Manners of the Irish (Vol. viii., p. 5.). — In the
very curious extract given by your correspondent
H., hoyranne is very likely to stand for horhhan,
the Irish for " lamentation " or " complaint." An
Irish landlord knows full well that, even up to the
present day, his tenants "keep the bread, and
make horbhan,^ Molchan, I suspect, comes from
miolcy whey. Loccdran stands for loisgrean, corn
turned out of the ear. As to the concluding line
of the extract, I must leave it to some better Irish
scholar than I can boast myself.
" I am the geyest mayed of all that brought the somer
houme,"
plainly has reference to the old practice, still pre-
valent in some parts of Ireland on May-day, when
young girls carry about a figure dressed as a baby,
singing the Irish song, ru5An7A|i ifhrt) ^n fATT)fiA
lli)P, "We have brought the summer with us"
(See Transactions of the Kilkenny Archtsological
Society), JJUagh {JJltojch) is Irish for an Ulster
man, as H. will see by consulting any Irish dic-
tionary, and can have no connexion with Utlagb,
the Kilkenny money-lender. UgteUer is of course
f^ misprint for Kyteller, Would that H. would
give us his real name and address, or at least allow
me to ask whether H. F. H. do not constitute his
initials in full. James Graves.
Kilkenny.
Arms of the See of York (Vol. viii., p. 34.). —
I was about to send a note to " N. & Q., pointing
out that Mr. Knight, in his heraldic illustrations
to 2 Hen, /F., in his Pictorial Edition of Shah'
spearey has given the modern bearings of the see
of York to Archbishop Scroope, instead of those
which belonged to that date, when I observed a
Query from Tee Bee, asking the date and origin
of the change of arms which took place. I am sorry
that I am imable to give any authority for my state-
ment, but I believe it to be not the less true, that
the change in question took place when Cardinal
Wobey came to the see. Nor can I give any
farther reason fi3r that change than the not(M*ioa9
jealousy of the Cardinal towards the superior
rank of the Archbishop of Canterbury. Up to
this period the arms of the two sees were precisely
the same, though Tee Beb gives the number of
crosses " patee fitchee " on the pall for difference ;
I should be glad to know whether there is good
authority for this statement. The present arms of
the see evidently have reference to the dedication
of the ancient cathedral church to St. Peter.
Ha C. K.
Rectory, Hereford.
" Up, Guards, and at 'em!'' (Vol. r., p. 426.).-—
These oft-quoted words have already engaged the
attention of the readers of " N. & Q." Your fre-
quent correspondent C. (Vol. v., p. 426.) is of
opinion that the Duke did make use of these, or
equivalent, words. The following extract I have
copied from an article in the June number of
BenUey's Miscellany, It will be found at p. 700.
as a foot-note to a clever article, one of a series;,
entitled "Bandom Recollections of Campaigns
under the Duke of Wellington," written by an
officer of the second brigade of Guards.
" The expression attributed to the Duke of * Up,
guards, and at them again 1 * I have good reason for
kn»mng was never made use of by him. He was not
even with the brigade of Guards in question at the time
they rose from their recumbent position to attack the
French column in their iront> and therefore could not
well have thus addressed them. I never heard this
story till long after, on my return to England, when it
was related by a lady at a dinner-table ; probably it
was the invention of some goodly Botherby. I re-
member denying my belief at the time, and my view
has since been sufficiently confirmed. Besides, the
words bear no internal evidence of the style either of
thought or even expression of him to whom they were
attributed.'*
The invention of the goodly Botherby has pros-
pered ! CUTHBERT BeDE, B. A.
Coleridge's Christahel-^The Srd Part (Vol. viii.,
pp. 11, 12.). — Mb. J. S. Warden asks if I am
correct in stating the Srd part of Christahel to be
the composition of Dr. Maginn. I can but ^^give
my awthority''' in a reference to a sketch of
Maginn's life, in a new and well-conducted peri-
odical, The Irish Quarterly Review, which, in the
number for September, 1852, after giving a most
humorous account of a first interview betweea
Blackwood and his wild Irish contributor, who
had for more than a year been mystifying the
editor by contributions under various signaturef,
proceeds thus : —
«* A few days before the first interview with Blaek-
wood, Magtnn had sent in his famous * Third part of
Christahel.* It is only to be found in the Magazine ;
and as many of our readers must be unacquainted with
Hm potoa, we here sub^join it."
112
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 196.
The poem follons, contBining the Uaes which led
to the first inquirj on this subject.
It nas hanng read the Memoir in Th« Iritk
Qaarl^ly which eoabled me ho promptly to ra-
member where the liQes were to be found ; but I
had long before beard, and never doubted, that the
clever parody waa composed by Dr. Maginn.
A. B. R.
Bdniont.
MUigaiion of Capital Pumthment (Vol. viii.,
p. 42 ). — I am sorry Mb. Gattt takes the phrase
" mythic accompaniments " as an imputation on
himself. I did not intend it for one, having no
doubt that he repeated the story na he heard it.
In it were two atatementa of the highest degree of
improbability. One I showed (Vof v., p. 434.) to
be contrary to penal, the other to forenaic practice.
One Ma. Gattt found to have been only a report,
the other to have occurred at a different place and
under different circumatancea. Had theae been
stated in the first version, I should not have dis-
puted them. Whittington was thrice Lord Mayor
of London — that is history, to vfhich the pro-
phecy (if Bow-bella and the exportation of the cat
are "mythic accompaniments.
A word as to " disclosing only initials." I think
you, aa a means of authentifiuation, should have
the name and address of every correspondent.
You have mine, and may give them to any one
who pars me the compliment of asking ; but I do
not seek farther publicity. H. B. C.
Oiibrd.
The Man with the Iron Mask (Vol. vii., pp. 234.
344.). — I think that Mr. James, 'mhU Life and
Times of Louit XIV^ has, to say the least, ahown
strong grounds for doubting the theory which
identifies this person with Mathioli ; and since
then several writers have been inclined to fall
back, in the want of any more probable explana-
tion, on the old idea that the captive was a twin
brother of Louis. What has become of the letter
from M. de St. Mara, said to have been discovered
Bome years ago, confirming this last hypothesis P
Has any such letter been published, and, if so,
vhat is the opinion of ita genuineness f
J. S. Wasdbk.
GetUUman executed for Murder of a Slave
CVd. vii., p. 107.) — Sometime between 1800 and
I80S, Lora Seaforth being Governor of Barbadoei,
a slaveowner, having killed one of his own slaves,
was tried for the murder and acquitted, the law
considering that such an act was not murder.
Thereupon Lord Seaforth came to England, ob-
twnedan act of parliament declaring the killing of
a slave to be murder, and returned to Barbadoea
to resume his ofBcial duties. Soon allerwards
another slave was killed by his owner, who was
tried, convicted, and Kntenced to be hanged for
murder under tbe new act of parliament. At the
time appointed the prisoner was brought out for
execution, but so strong was public feeling, that
the ordinary executioner was not forthcoming;
and on the governor requiring the sheriff to per-
form his office either in peraon or by deputy, after
some excuses he absolutely refused. The go-
vernor then addressed the guard of soldiera, de-
siring a volunteer for executioner, adding, " who-
ever wonld volunteer should be subsequently
protected aa well aa rewarded then." One pre-
sented himself, and it thenceforth became aa dan-
gerous to kill a slave as a freeman in Barbadoes.
G.BL£.a
Jahn's Jahrbuch (Vol. viii., p. 34^. — Permit
me to inform your correspondent E. C. that there
is a copy of Jahn's JiihrbOcher fUr Fhilologie vtd
Fadago^ in the library of Sir Robert Taylor's
Institution, Oxford. Although this library is for
the use of members of the university, I am sure
the curators of the institution will give their per-
mission to consult the hooka in it, to any gentle*
man who is properly recommended to them.
J. Mac BAT.
Oiford.
Character of the Song of thx Nightingdie
(Vol. vii., p. 397.). — I imagine that many of the
writers quoted by your correspondent lived in
places too far removed ia the north or west (as is
my own case) ever to have heard the nightingale^
and are, in consequence, not competent authorities
as to a song they can only have described at
second hand ; but that Shelley was not far wrong
in styling it voluptuous, and placing it amidst the
luxurious bowers of Daphne, may receive some
condrmation from an anecdote told by Nimrod
(" Life and Times," Frater't Magazine., toL xxv.
p. 30t.) of the sadefiects produced both on morals
and parish rates by the visit of a nightingale one
summer to the groves of Ertbig, near Wrexham.
J. S. Waxdbs.
I accidently met with a scrap of evidence on
thb point lately, as I was driving at midnight on
a sudden call to visit a dying man. The nightin-
gales were singing in full choir, when my servant,
an intelligent young man from the country, re-
marked, " A cheerful little bird the nightingale.
Sir. It is beautiful to hear them singing when one
is walking alone on a dark night."
Unaophiaticated judgment of this sort, when
met witn unsought, seems to be of real value in a
question depending for its decision so much upon
the faithful record of impressions. Oxoxumsis.
yaltbanutow.
Mb. CnrHBBBT 'BanB gives, in his liat of
epithets of the nightingale, "solemn," as used
by Milton, Otway, Graingle. How the last two
employ the term I do not knoW) perlu^ tbejr
JuiT 30. I8S3.] SOTES Aire) QUERIES.
114
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na !»«•
siniplj, their coats of aims Tarjing only in metal
and colour :
Aynisworthe. Gyves.
Bainbrige. Gibbes.
Batten. Hftll.
Daueys. HakelcCt.
Daverston. Lewston.
Stephen Hoby Tthe earliest ancestor of the
fiisham family of wnom any record is preserved),
mRrried , the daughter and heiress of —
Bylmore, whose arms were — Gu. three halberds
(long-handled battle-axes) in pale ar. handled
or. : hence, no doubt, the three battle-axes in con-
nexion with the Hoby or Hobby name at Bisham
Church. William Hoby, of Leominster, the tenth
in descent from the above-mentioned Stephen,
married Catherine, sole daughter and heiress of
John Forden alias Fordaprne, hj Gwentwynar,
daughter and heiress of Sir Griffith Vahan alias
Vaughan, Knight Banneret; who was, as I am
led to think, of Denbigh or its neighbourhood.
I shall be happy to find I have thrown any light
upon the Query of A. C. H. C. C.
Sir O, Browne, Bart (Vol. vii,, p. 528.). — ^Your
correspondent Newbubt is in error in styling this
George Browne a baronet, nor was he of West
Stafford or Wickhara. He was the sole son and
heir of Sir George Browne, Knight, of Wickham-
breux, co. Kent, Caversham, co. Oxford, and Cow-
dray in Midhurst, co. Sussex ; which last estate
devolved on this family by the will of William
Fitzwilliam, Earl of Southampton, the son of Lucy
(daughter and co-heiress of John Nevill, Marquess
of Montagu) by her first husband. Sir Thomas
Fitzwilliam of Aldwark, co. York ; which Lucy
became the wife of Sir Anthony Browne, who was
knighted at the battle of Stoke, June 6, 1487,
and succeeded as above-mentioned to the Cowdray
estate.
George Browne, who married Elizabeth or
Eleanor, the daughter of Sir Richard Blount, was
of Wickhambreux, Caversham, and also of West
Shefford in co. Berks ; his name appears as thus
in the Visitation of this county anno 1623. Of the
nineteen children, he had three sons whose names
are not given, and who died in the Royal cause
during the civil wars : but as Richard, the third
«on, is expressly mentioned, ho certainly was not
one of the three killed in the service of King
Charles I. Sir George Browne, second, but eldest
surviving son, was made a K.B. at the coronation
of King Charles IL ; and was celebrated by Pope
in his " Windsor Forest." He married ElizabeUi,
daughter of Sir Francis Englefield^ the second
bai'onet of Wootton Bassett^ co. Wilts, and died
3, p. m. George, the eldest born, died an infant.
Henry, the fourth son, died unmarried March 19,
1668, and was buried at West Shefford; and
John, the fifth son, was of CAversham, and created
a baronet May 19, 1665. He married tbe widow
of —— Bradley, and was the ancestor of the
baronet! of Caversham, extinct in 1774. Three
daughters, whose names are not ^iven, became
nuns. Eleanor, another daughter, died unnuurried,
Nov. 27, 1662, and was buried at West Shefibrd:
and Elizabeth was the wife of John Yate of West
Hanney, co. Berks ; and who died Jan. 26, 1671,
before his wife. H. C. C
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lUgh tlhiiteh ntn\ hrnn Chitfch - - • -
C(Y(ie1iit1ht(t No»ei «ti sev«>r<tl tnliunderBtriod Wordi, by
tlie Ret. W. H. Arrow«Tnlth - . - -
fineeMlnit nn (Imen end n DpHy, by T. 3. Biicktoii
Abttdet of Mftckrtpy Confihei . _ - -
ShnkHppere 0 irresponelence, by C. Miuiifleld In^teby,
Thomni Felooner, Ac. - - - - -
MtNOR NotRsit — Ffllnlflpd Ofrtre«totie In Stretfbfd
Churehyard - nnrnflclei In the filver Th«me§ — Note
for tiondnri Tnpographerti — The Alleiei «nd tnithitf
or Authors— Pure -~ Darltng't " Cyclopedia Bibllo.
graphica" • - - • • - - 184
Page
117
120
IVI
\n
198
DttKtillti t —
Delft ManuraHure, by 0. Morgan
- 180
Mmoa Qttfhfet t — The Withered Hand and Motto
" UHnam " — lllfitory nf York — " Hauling over the
coali"— Dr. llutler nod ftt. Kdmiind'i flury — Waih-
Ington— Nortiiifi of WInster— Sir Arthtir Alton —
•' Jrtmlf«on the PIppr "— " Reiser (Homer " - Tletk'i
'•Comtedlft Dlvltm "—Fossil Trees between Cairo and
Rup« 1 Strenm Ilk" that In Bar of Argastoll — Presby-
lef Inn TitU'S— Mnimrs and RherKh — The Beauty of
Buttermere — Sheer Hulk -The Lapwing or Peewitt
fVMnellus crlstntus) — " Could we with Ink," Ac —
Laimciilng Query ■-. Manliness • - *•
MiNON QiikwiBS WITH AwswfittS! — Pues or
•• Jerningham •' and ♦' Doteton "
^f fSCfeLLANKOfa : —
Notes on Books, Ac.
Book* and Odd Volumes wanted
Notices to Correspondents
Adtertisemeiiti
. 185
Pews-*
- 187
flattie of Vniers en Courhe, by T. C. Smith, Ac. - 187
Rnall-eating, liy .tohn Tlmbs, Ac. - - -188
losfrlptlon near Cirencester, by P. M. Fisher, Ac, - 189
Curlou* Custom of rinfting Bells for the Dead, by the
Hev. 11. T. Rllacomhe and M. W. RIHot - - 130
"Who first thought of Table-turning ? by John Macray lal
•Scotchmen In Poland - - - - - 181
Anticipatory Use of the Cross, by Gden Warwick - 188
l»MotooasFMio CoRHtsrofitiUHcif » — Olais Chambert
ftir Photoaraphtr — Dr. Diamond's Bepilei — Trial of
],i>nse«— la it dangerous to use the Ammonlo^Nltrate
of Sliver? 188
IDtrMBs TO MiHoa Ot'iRtKi ! — Burke's Marriage —
The House of Falahill- Descendants of Judas IscaHot
— Milton's Wldow—Whltaker's Ingenlotis Fart— Are
White Cats d af? _ Consecrated Hoses — The He-
fonned Frtilh—lbiuse-tnaiks - Trash — Adamsnniana
— Portrait of Crnmwell - Btirke's " Mighty Bnar of
the Forest "— " Anientlum baud Atnintlum *•— Talley.
rmid'a Maalm — FngiUh Blsliops deprlted liy Queen
Kticalieth— Cloves at Fairs— St. Domloic— Names of
Pliutts— Specimens of Foreign Fnglish, Ac. - • 184
. 188
. 188
- 188
. 139
Vol. Vllt No. 107.
flatril.
tttOtt C»UltCll AND LOW Ottt71ICtf.
A Univermt Hintory of Party ; with the Origin
qf Party Names* would form an acceptable addi-
tioti to liternrjr history : *' N. & Q.'* has contributed
towards such a work some disquisitions on our
party names Whig and Tory^ and The Oood Old
Cau«e» Such names as Puritan^ Malignant^ Evan**
gelical-ff can be traced up to their first oommenoe*
mentf but some obscurity hangs on the mintage*
date of the names we are about to consider.
As a matter of fact, the distinction of High
Church and Low Church always existed in tuo
lleformed Engliflli Churchy and the history of these
parties would be her history. But the ttames were
not coined till the close of the seventeenth oen«
tury, and were not stamped in full relief as party-
names till the first year of Queen Anne^s reign.
In October, 1702. Anne's first Parliament and
Convocation assembled :
** From the deputes in Conirooation at this period*
the AppellfltionA MipH Chureh and Low Church originated*
And they were afterwards awA tu dlstinguiah the clergy.
It is singular that the bishops | were ranked among
• There is a book called Wttory of Pitrty^ fVom the
Wm of the Whiy and Tary Facthm Chat. IL to the
t*a»»tny qf the Hefbrm Bill^ by G. W. Cooke : Lond.
tS36-57, B vols. 8yo. } but, as the title shows, it Is
litnited In scope.
f See tiaweis's Sermnna on tSnangeflcal PHHctptef
and Praetke : Lond. 17G9, 8vo. j T/ieTrue Churchmen
atvcrtaincd / or, An Apology Jhr tho$c of the Ilegular
Clergy of the ketabtinhmentf who are Bometimes called
Evangefical MinUten: occaeioned by the PnblicattoHt
of Lfr», Mey, Hey^ Croft ; Meiers, Daubeny^ Ludtam^
Polwhete^ P'eJlowee t the Itevlewert, ^c. t by John Over-
ton, A.B., York, 1809, 8vo., 2nd edit. See also the
various memoirs of Wlillfleld, Wesley, ftc. ) and Sir
J. Stepheti's Esenys on *' The Clapham Sect " and «• The
Evangelical Succession."
I It is not so very " singular," when we remember
that the bishops were what Lord Campbell and Mr.
Macaulay call '* judiciously chosen" by William. On
this point a cotemporary remarks, " Some steps have
been made, and large ones too, towards d Smtth re*
formation, by suspending and ejecting the chief and
most sealous of our bishops, and others of the higher
118
NOTES AND QUERIES.
£No. 197.
the Low Churchmen (see Burnet, ▼. 138. ; Calamy,
i. 643. ; Tindal's Con/.,iv. 591.)"— Lall^bury's Hiit,of
the Convocation, Lond. 1842, p. 319.
Mr. Lathbury is a very respectable authority in
matters of this kind, but if he use "originated"
in its strict sense, I am inclined to think he is
mistaken ; as I am tolerably certain that I have
met with the words several years before 1702. At
the moment, however, I cannot lay iny hands on
a passnge to support this assertion.
The disputes in Convocation gave rise to a
number of pamphlets, such as A Caveat against
High Church, Lond. 1702, and T?ie Low Church^
men vindicated from the unjust Imputation of being
No Churchmen^ in Answer to a Pamphlet called
" The Distinction of High and Low Church con-
tidered:"^ Lond. 1706, 8vo. Dr. Sachevereirs
trial gave additional zest to the dudgeon eccle-
siastick, and produced a shower of pnmphlets. I
give the title of one of them : Pulpit War, or Dr.
S — /, the High Church Trumpet, and Mr. H — ly,
the Low Church Drum, engaged by way of Dia-
logue, Lond. 1710, 8vo.
To understand the cause of the exceeding bit-
terness and virulence which animated the parties
denominated High Church and Low Churchy we
must remember that until the time of William of
Orange, the Church of England, as a body — her
sovereigns and bishops, her clergy and laity —
comes under the former designation ; while those
who sympathised with the Dissenters were com-
paratively few and weak. As soon as AVilliam
was head of the Church, he opened the floodgates
of Puritanism, and admitted into the church what
previously had been more or less external to it.
This element, thus made part and parcel of the
Anglican Church, was denominated Low Church.
William supplanted the bishops and clergy who
refused to take oaths of allegiance to him as
king de Jure ; and by putting Puritans in their
place, made the latter the dominant party. Add
to this the feelings of exasperation produced by
the murder of Charles L, and the expidsion of the
Stuarts, and we have sufficient grounds, political
and religious, for an irreconcilable feud. Add,
again, the reaction resulting from the overthrow
clergy ; and by advancing, upon all vacancies of sees
and dignities, ecclesiastical men of notoriously Preabt/-
terian, or, which is worse, of Erastian principles. These
are the ministerial ways of undermining Episcopacy ;
and when to the seven notoriotis ones shall be added
more, upon the approaching deprivation, they will
make a innjority ; and then we may expect the new
model of a church to be perfected." (Somers* Tracts,
vol. X. p. 368. ) Until Atterbury, there were few High
Church Di&hops in Queen Anne's reign in 1710. Bur-
net singles out the Bishop of Chester : " for he seemed
resolved to distinguish him<;elf as a zealot for that
which is called High Church:* -- Hist, Own Time,
voL iv. p. 26a
of the tyrannous hot-bed and forcing-system,
where a sham conformity was maintained by coer-
cion ; and the Church- Papist, as well as the Churek-
Puritans, with ill-concealed hankering after the
mass and the preaching-house, by penal statutes
were forced to do what their souls abhorred, and
play the painful farce of attending the services of
'* The Establishment.'*
A writer in a High Church periodical of 1717
(prefacing his article with the passage from Pro-
verbs vi. 27.) proceeds :
** The old way of attacking the Church of England
was by mobs and bullies, and hard sounds ; by calling
Whore, and Babylon, upon our worship and litargy, sim
kicking out our clergy as cfttfR6 day* : but now they
have other irons in the 6re ; a new ei^ne is set up
under the cloak and disguise of temper, tni«ty, eonqtre'
hension, and the Protestant religion. Their business nov
is not to storm the Church, but to hdl it to ahep: to
make us relax our care, quit our defences, and neglect
our safety .... These are the politics of their Popish
fathers: when they had tried all other artifices, Uiey
at last resolved to sow schism and division in tlie
Church : and from theuce sprang up this very gene-
ration, who by a fine stratagem endeavoured to set vs
one against the other, and they gather up the stake*.
Hence the digtineiion of High and Low Church^** ^ 7%0
Scourge, p. 251.
In another periodical of the same date, in the
Dedication ^^ To the most famous University of
Oxford," the writer says :
** These enemies of our religious and civil establish-
ment have represented you as instillers of davitih doe-
trines and principles . . . if to give to God and Cesar his
due be such towVing, and High Church principles I
am sure St. Peter and St. Paul will scarce escape being
censured for Tories and Hiyhjlyers.** — The Entertainer,
Lond. 1717.
"If those who have kept their first love, and whose
robes have not been defiled, endeavoar to stop these
innovations and corruptions that their enemies would
introduce, they are blackened for High OhmrA PapiUs,
favourers of I know not who, and &11 under the .public
resentment."— 76. p. 301.
I shall now give a few extracts from Low Church
writers (quoteil in The Scourge)^ who thus de-
signate their opponents :
" A pack or party of scandalous, wicked, and pro-
fane men, who appropriate to themselves the name of
High Church (but may more properly be said to be
Jesuits or Papists in masquerade), do take liberty to
teach, preach, and print, puhlickly and privately, sedi-
tion, contentions, and divisions among the Protestants
of this kingdom." — Motives to Union, p. 1.
" These men glory in their being members of the
High Church (Popish appellation, and therefore they
arc the mure fond of that) ; but these pretended sons
are become her persecutors, and they exercise their
spite and lies both on the living and the dead."— The
Snake in the Grass brought to Light, p. 8.
Aug. 6. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
lid
*' Our common people of the High Church are as
ignorant in matters of religion )Eu the bigotted Papists,
which gives great advantage to our Jacobite and Tory
priests to lead them where they please, or to mould
them into what shapes they please.*' — Reasons for an
Union, p. 39.
** The minds of the populace are too much debauched
already from their loyalty by seditious arts of the Hiffh
Church faction,^ — Convocation Craft, p. '84.
•* We may see how closely our present Highflyers
pursue the steps of their Popish predecessors, in reck«
oning those who dispute the usurped power of the
Church to be hereticks, schismaticks, or what else they
please." — /ft. p. 30.
** All the blood that has been spilt in the late un-
natural rebellion, may be very ju.stly laid at the doors
of the High Church clergy." — Christianity no Creature
of the State, p. 16.
" We see what the Tory Priesthood were made of in
Queen Elizabeth's time, that they were ignorant, lewd,
and seditious : and it must be said of 'em that they are
true to the stuff still." — Toryism the Worst of the Two,
p. 21.
"The Tories ^nd High C%«rcA, notwithstanding their
pretences to loyalty, will be found by their actions to
be the greatest rebels in nature," ^-^ Reasons for an
Union, p. 20.
Sir W. Scott, in his Life of Dry den^ Lond. 1808,
observes that —
** Towards the end of Charles the Second's reign,
the High- Church-men and the Catholics regarded them-
selves as on the same side in political questions, and not
greatly divided in their temporal interests. Both were
sufferers in the plot, both were enemies of the sectaries,
both were adherents of tlie Stuarts. Alternate con-
version had been common between them, so early as
since Milton made a reproach to the English Univer-
sities of the converts to the Roman faith daily made
within their colleges : of those sheep —
* Whom the prim wolf with privy paw
Daily djvours apace, and nothing said.' "
Life, 3rd edit. I8S4, p. 272.
I quote this passage partly because it gives Sir
Walter's interpretation of that obscure passage in
Lycidas, respecting which I made a Query (Vol. ii.,
p. 246.), but chiefly as a preface to the remark
that in James II.'s rergn, and at the time these
party names originated, the Roman Catholics were
in league with the Puritans or Low Church party
against the High Churchmen, which increased the
acrimony of both parties.
In those days religion was politics, and politics
religion, with most of the belligerents. Swift,
however, as if he wished to be thought an excep-
tion to the general rule, chose one party for its
politics and the other for its religion.
" Swift carried into the ranks of the Whigs the
opinions and scruples of a High Church clergyman . . .
Such a distinction between opinions in Church and
State has not frequently existed : the High Churchmen
being usually Tories, and the Low Church divines uni-
versally ffhigs," — Scott's Life, 2nd edit.: Edin. 18^»
p. 76.
See Swift's Discourse of the Contests and DisseU'
sions between the Nobles and Commons of Athent
and Rome : Lond. 1701.
In his qvLsAnt Argument against abolishing Chris^
tianity^ Lond. 1708, the following passage occurs :
** There is one advantage, greater than any of the
foregoing, proposed by the abolishing of Christianity :
that it will utterly extinguish parties among us by
removing those factious distinctions of High and Low
Church, of Whig and Tory, Presbyterian and Church
of England."
Scott says of the TaU of a Tub:
" The main purpose is to trace the gradual corrup-
tions of the Church of Rome, and to exalt the English
Reformed Church at the expense both of the Roman
Catholic and Presbyterian establishments. It waft
written with a view to the interests of the High Church
party." — Life, p. 84.
Most men ' will concur with Jeffrey, who ob-
serves :
" It is plain, indeed, that Swift's High Church prin-
ciples were all along but a part of his selfishness and
ambition ; and meant nothing else, than a desire to
raise the consequence of the order to which he happened
to belong. If he had been a layman, we have no
doubt he would have treated the pretensions of the
priesthood as he treated the persons of all priests who
were opposed to him, with the most bitter and irre-
verent disdain." — Ed. Rev., Sept. 1816.
The following lines are from a squib of eigitt
stanzas whicli occurs in the works of Jonathan
Smedley, and are said to have 'been fixed on the
door of St. Patrick's Cathedral on the day of
Swift's instalment (see Scott, p. 174.) :
" For High Churchmen and policy,
He swears he prays most hearty ;
But would pray back again to be
A Dean of any party."
This reminds us of the Vicar of Bray, of famous^
memory, who, if I recollect aright, commenced liis
career thus :
" In good King Charles's golden days.
When loyalty no harm meant,
A zealous High Churchman I wa<;,
And so I got preferment,"
How widely different are the men we see classeil
under the title High Churchmen! Evelyn and
Walton *, the gentle, the Christian ; the arrogant
Swift, and the restless Atterbury.
It is difficult to prevent my note running
beyond the limits of *' N. & Q.," with the ample
♦ Of Izaak Walton his biographer, Sir John Haw-
kins, writing in 1760, says, "he was a friend to a
hierarchy, or, as we should now call such a one, a High
Churchman/*
120
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 197.
materials I have to select from ; but I cannot wind
up without a definition ; so here are two :
« Mr. Thelwall says that he told a pious old lady,
who asked him the difference between High Church and
Low Churchi •The High Church place the Church
above Christ, the Low Church place Christ above the
Church.* About a hundred years ago, that very same
question was asked of the famous South: — 'Why,*
said he, * the High Church are those who think highly
of the Church, and lowly of themselves; the Low
Church are those who think highly of themselves, and
lowly of the Church.**— Rev. H. Newland*8 Lecture on
Tractarianism, Lond. 1852, p. 68.
The most celebrated High Churchmen who lived
in the last century, are Dr. South, Dr. Samuel
Johnson, Rev. AVm. Jones of Nayland, Bp. Home,
Bp. Wilson, and Bp. Horslej. See a long passage
on " High Churchmen" in a charge of the latter to
the clergy of St. David's in the year 1799, pp. 34.
37. See also a charge of Bp. Atterbury (then
Archdeacon of Totnes) to his clergy in 1703.
Jabltzbero.
CONCLUDING NOTES ON SEVERAL MISUNDERSTOOD
WORDS.
(Continued from Vol. vii., p. 568.)
Not bein^ minded to broach any fresh matter
in " N. & Q.,'* I shall now only crave room to
clear off an old score, lest I should leave myself
open to the imputation of having cast that in the
teeth of a numerous body of men which might, for
aught they would know to the contrary, be as
truly laid in my own dish. In No. 189., p. 567.,
I affirmed that the handling of a passage in
Cymbeline, there quoted, had betrayed an amount
of obtuseness in the commentators which would
be discreditable in a third-form schoolboy. To
substantiate that assertion, and rescue the dis-
puted word " Britaine " henceforth for ever from
the rash tampering of the meddlesome sciolist, I
beg to advertise the ingenuous reader that the
clause, —
« For being now a favourer to the Britaine/'
is in apposition with Deaths not with Fosthumus
Leonatus. In a note appended to this censure,
referring to another passage from L. L. L., I
averred that Ma. Collier had corrupted it by
changing the singular verb dies into the plural
die (this too done, under plea of editorial li-
cence, without warning to the reader), and that
such corruption had abstracted the true key to
the right construction. To make good this last
position, two things I must do : first, cite the whole
passage, without change of letter or tittle, as it
stands in the Folios '23 and '32 ; next, show the
trivial and vulgar use of ** contents ** as a singular
noun. In Folio *23, thus :
** Qu. Nay my good Lord, let me ore-rule you now ;
. That sport best pleases that doth least know how.
Where Zeale striues to content, and the contents
Diet in the Zeale of that whieh it presents :
Their forme confounded, makes moat forme in mirth,
When great things labouring perish in their birth.**
Act IV. p. 141.
With this the Folio '32 exactly corresponds, save
that the speaker is Ptin^ not Qu. ; are^ruUs is
written as two words without the hyphen, and
strives for striues. 1 have been thus precise, be-
cause criticism is to me not " a game,'* nor admis-
sive of cogging and falsification.
I must now show the hackneyed use of conientg
as a singular noun. An anonymous correspondent
of " N. & Q." has already pointed out one m Mea-
sure for Measure, Act I V. Sc, 2. :
*< Duke. The eontente of this is the retume of the
Duke.**
Another :
** This is the contents thereof.** — Calvin's 82nd Ser»
mon upon Job, p. 419., Golding*s translation.
Another :
" After this were articles of peace propounded, y*
eontente wherof was, that he should departe out of
Asia.** — The Sist Booke of Justine, fol. 139.» Gelding's
translation of Justin's Trogue Pompeius,
Another :
*< Plinie writeth hereof an excellent letter, the eos-
tents whereof is, that this ladie, mistrusting her husband,
was condemned to die,** &c. — Hietorieail Meditationt,
lib. iii. chap, xl p. 178. Written in Latin by P. Came-
rarius, and done into English by John Molle, Esq.:
London, 1621.
Another :
<* The contents whereof is this.** — Id,, lib. v. chap.Ti.
p. 342.
Another :
" Therefore George, being led with an heroicall dis-
daine, and neuertheless gluing the bridle beyond mo-
deration to his anger, vnderstanding that Albert was
come to Newstad, resolued with himselfe (without
acquainting any bodie) to write a letter vnto him, the
contents whereof was,'* &c. — Id., lib. ▼. chap. xii. p. 366.
If the reader wants more examples, let him give
himself the trouble to open the first book that
comes to hand, and I dare say the perusal of a
dozen pages will supplv some ; yet have we two
editors of Shakspeare, «fohnson and Collier, so un-
acquainted with the usage of their own tongue,
and the universal logic of thought, as not to know
that a word like contents, according as it is under-
stood collectively or distributively, may be, and,
as we have just seen, in fact is, treated as a sin-
gular or plural ; that, I say, contents taken seve-
rally, every content, or in gross, the whole mass, is
respectively plural or singular. It was therefore
optiond with Shakspeare to employ the word
either as a singular or plural, but not in the same
sentence to do both : here, however, he was tied
Aus. 6. I8S3.]
NOTES AND QCEEIES.
121
to tbe singuIaT, for, wanting a rhjnie to eosieiUi,
the nominative to preients muat be siDSular, and
that nominatiTC was the pronoun of confentt.
Since, therefore, the pluml die and the singular if
could not both be referable to tbe same noun eon-
tenb, by Bilentlj substitu^ne die for dies, Mb.
CoLLiBB has blinded his reader and wronged his
author. The purport of the passage amounts to
this: the cotiteiUt, or structure ^towit, of the sboir
to be exhibited), breaks down in tbe performer's
zeal to the subject which it presents. Johnson
Tery properly adduces a much nappier eipression
of the same thought from A Midtammer Ntgkt't
Dreamt:
The reader cannot fail to have observed the fault-
less punctuation of the Folios in the forecited
passage, and I think concur with me, that like
many, ay, most others, all it craves at llie hands
of editors and commentators is, to be left alone.
The last two lines ask for no explanation even to
the blankest mind. Words like eostenlt are by no
means rare in English. We have tiding* and neaii,
both singular and pluraL Mk. Collier himself
rebukes Malone for bis ignorance of such usage
of the latter word. If it be said that these two
examples have no singular form, whereas contetds
Las, there is means, at any rate precisely ana-
logous. On the other hand, so capricious is lan-
guage, in defiance of tbe logic of thought, we have,
if I may so term it, a merely auricular plural, in
the word coTpte referred to a single carcase.
I should here close my account with " K. & Q."
were it not that I have an act of justice to per-
form. When I first lighted upon the two ex-
amples o! ehoMmhre in Udall, I tuought, as we say
in this country, it was a good " fundlas," and re-
farded it as my own property. It now appears to
e but a waif or stray; therefore, naim cuiqae, I
cheerfully resign the credit of it to Mb. Sinoeb,
the rightful proprietary. Proffering them for the
inspection of learned and unlearn^ I of course
foresaw that speedy sentence would be pronounced
br that division, whose judgment, lying ebb and
close to the surface, must needs first reach the
light. I know no more appropriate mode of re-
quiting the handsome manner in which Mr. Sinqeb
has been pleased to speak of my trifiing contribu-
tions to " N. & Q." than by asking him, with all
the modesty of which I am master, to reconsider
the passage in Romeo and Juliet; for though his
substitution (ruTnoiireri vice runawa^ei) may, I
think, clearly take the wall of any of its rivals, yet,
believing that Juliet invokes a darkness to shroud
her lover, under cover of which even tbe fugitive
from justice might snatch a wink of sleep, 1 must
for mj own part, as usual, still adhere to the
authentic text. W. K. Arrowbhitu.
P. S. — In answer to a Bloomsbury Querist
(Vol, viii., p. 44.), I crave leave to soy that I never
have met with the verb perceyaer except in Hawes,
he. cit. ; and I gave the latest use that I could call
to mind of tbe noun in my paper on that word.
Unhappily I never make notes, but rely entirely on
a somewhat retentive memory ; therefore the in-
stances that occur on tbe spur of the moment are
not always the most apposite that might be selected
for the purpose of illustration. It, however, he
will take the trouble to refer to a little boob, con-
sisting of no more than 448 pages, published in
1576, and entitled A Panoplie of Epiulles, or a
Loohin^-giasac far the VjSeamed, by Abraham
Flemming, be will find no fewer than nine ex-
amples, namely, at pp. 25. 144. 178, 2S3. 277. 2B3.
(twice in the same page) 333. 382. It excites
surprise that the word never, as far aslam aware,
occurs in any of the voluminous works of Sir
Thomas More, nor in any of the theological pro-
ductions of the Reformers.
With respect to speare, the orthography varies,
as ^re, sperr, »parr, laispar; hut in the Prologue
to Troiltu and C'retsida, tperre is Theobald's cor-
rection of ttirre, in Folios '23 and '32. Let me
add, nbat I bad forgotten at the time, that an-
other instance of budde intransitive, to bend, oc-
curs at p. 103. of The Life of Faith in Death, by
Samuel Ward, preacher of Ipswich, London, 1622.
Also another, and a very sijjnificant one, of the
phrase to have on the hip, in Fuller's Hittorie oftkt
Holy Wan-e, Cambridge, 1647 :
" Arnulphus iras at (]uiet as b lambr, and dursl never
challenge hia interest in Jermalem Irom Godlrey's do-
nation; as fearing to areitle with the king, who torf
Aim on tht hip, and could out him at pleasure for his
bad maanen." — Book ii, cbap. viii. p. 55.
In my note on the word traih, I si
too peremptorily) that overtop wa
hunting term (Vol. vii., p. 567.). At the n:
I had forgotten tbe following passage :
" Thetefoie I would penwade all lovers of hunting
twice a ireek to fuUow after them a train-scent; and
when he is able to top Ihem an all soria of earth, and to
endure heats and colds stoutly, then he may the better
relie on his speed and toughness." — The HnKting-hom^
cbap. vii. p.TI., Oxford, IGtiS.
d (somewhat
In the Odyaaey, xvii. 541-7., we have, imitating
tbe hexameters, the following passage :
" Thus Penelope ipake. Then quickly Telemachui
rupid and high-toned words td
122
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 197.
• Go then directly, Eurosas, and call to my presence
the strange guest.
See*8t thou not that my son, tv'ry word 1 have spoken
hath gneez'd atf*
Thus portentous, betok*ning the fate of my hateful
suitors,
AU whom death and destruction await by a doom
irreversive.
Dionysius Halicamassus, on Homer's poetry
(«. 24.), says, sneezing was considered by that
poet as a good sign (jar6fi€o\ov &ya06v) ; and from
the Anthohgy (lib. ii.) the words o68i A^yei, Ztv
ffUffov, ihv irrapyt show that it was proper to ex-
claim "God bless you !'* when any one sneezed.
Aristotle, in the Problems (xxxiii. 7.), inquires
why sneezing is reckoned a God (9ioi ri rhu fxep
irrttpfi6vy ^fhy •nyo^fitda tlvai) ; to which he suggests,
that it may be because it comes from the head, the
most divine part about us (^tiordrov ray trcpi rjfias).
Persons having the inclination, but not the power
to sneeze, should look at the sun, for reasons he
assies in Problems (xxxiii. 4.).
Autarch, on the Daemon of Socrates (s. 11.),
states the opinion which some persons had formed,
that Socrates* daemon was nothing else than the
sneezing either of himself or others. Thus, if
any one sneezed at his right hand, either before or
behind him, he pursued any step he had begun ;
but sneezing at his left hand caused him to desist
from his formed purpose. He adds something as
to different kinds of sneezing. To sneeze twice
was usual in Aristotle's time ; but once, or more
ihan twice, was uncommon (Prob. xxxiii. 3.).
Pctronius {Satyr, c. 98.) notices the " blessing "
in the following passage :
** Giton collectionc splritus plenus, ter continuo ita
sternutavit, Ut grabatum concuteret. Ad t\\iQva motum
Eumolpus con versus, solvere G'ltom, jvheV
T. J. BUCKTON.
Birmingham.
ABUSES or HACKNET COACHES.
[The following proclamation on this subject is of
interest at the present moment. ]
By the King.
A Proclamation to restrain the Abuses of Hackney
Coaches in the Cities of London and Westmin-
ster, and the Suburbs thereof.
Charles R.
Whereas the excessive number of Hackney
Coaches, and Coach Horses, in and about the
Cities of London and Westminster, and the Sub-
urbs thereof, are found to be a common nuisance
to the Publique Damage of Our People by reason
* The practice oi snuff-taking has made the sneezing
at anything a mark of contempt, in these degenerate
days.
of their rude and disorderly standing and pts^
ing to and fro, in and about our said CHfcies aad
Suburbs, the Streets and Highways bei^ thereby
pestred and made impassable, the nrenmli
broken up, and the Common Passages obstructed
and become dangerpus, Our Peace Tiolated, and
sundry other mischiefs and eyils oocastoned :
We, taking into Our Princely consideratioi
these apparent Inconveniences, and resolving that
a speedy remedy be applied to meet with, and
redress them for the future, do, by and with the
advice of our Privy Council, pubiisb Our Royal
Will and Pleasure to be, and we do by this Gar
Proclamation expressly charge and command^ That
no Person or Persons, of what Estate, Degree, or
Quality whatsoever, keeping or using any Hack- |
ney Coaches, or Coac;h Horses, do, from and after
the Sixth day of November next, permit or suftr
the said Coaches and Horses, or any of them, to
stand or remain in any the Streets or Passages
in or about Our said Cities either of Liondon or
Westminster, or the Suburbs belonging to dtiier
of them, to be there hired ; but that tlaey and every
of them keep their said Coaches and Horses withm
their respective Coach-houses, Stables^ and Tarda
(whither such Persons as desire to hire tiie same
may resort for that purpose), upon pun d Oar
high displeasure, and such Forfeitures, Pains^ and
Penalties as may be inflicted for the Contempt fd
Our Royal Commands in the Premises, whereof
we shall expect a strict Accompt.
And for the due execution of Our Pleasure
herein, We do further charge and command the
Lord Mayor and Aldermen of Our City of London,
That they in their several Wards, and Our Jus-
tices of Peace within Our said .Cities of London
and Westminster, and the Liberties and Suburbs
thereof, and all other Our Officers and Ministers
of Justice, to whom it appertaineth, do take
especial care in their respective Limits that this
Our Command be duly observed, and that they
from time to time return the names of all those
who shall wilfully offend in the Premises, to Our
Pi*ivy Council, and to the end they may be pro-
ceeded against by Indictments and Presentments
for the Nuisance, and otherwise according to the
severity of the Law and Demerits of the Ofienders.
Given at Our Court at Whitehall the 18tih day
of October in the 12th year of Our Reign.
God save thb Einq.
London : Printed by John Bell and Christopher
Barker, Printers to the King^s most Excellent
Majesty, 1660.
Pepys, in his Diary, vol. i. p. 14i2., under date
8th November, 1660, says :
" To Mr. Fox, who was very citil to me. Notwith-
standing this was th« first day of the King'b prodama*
Aug. a 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
123
tion. against hackney coaches coming into the streets ta
stand to be Iiired, yet I got one to carry me home."
T. Ih
SaAKSPEABE CORBESPONDENCB.
Passage in " The Tempest^ Act L Sc, 2. —
** The sky, it seems, would pour down stinking pitch,
But that the sea, mounting to the welkin's cheek.
Dashes the fire out,**
**The manuscript corrector of the folio 1632,"^
Mr. Collier informs us, " has substituted heat for
* cheek,' which is not an unlikely corruption, a
person writing only by the ear."
I should say very unlikely : but if heat had been
actually printed in the folios, without speculating
as to the probability that the press-copy was
written from dictation, I should have had no
hesitation in altering it to cheek. To this I
should have been directed by a parallel passage in
Richard IL, Act III. Sc. 3., which has been over-
looked by Mr. Collier :
** Methinks, Ring Richard and myself should meet
With no less terror than the elements
Of fire and watert when their thundering shock
At meeting tears the cloudy cheeks of heaven.^*
Commentary here is almost useless. Every one
who has any capacity for Shakspearian criticism
must feel assured that Shakspeare wrote cheeky
and not heat.
The passage I have cited from Bichard II,
strongly reminds me of an old lady whom I met
last autumn on a tour through the Lakes of Cum-
berland, &c. ; and who, during a severe thunder-
storm, expressed to me her surprise at the per-
tinacity of the lightning, adding, " I should think.
Sir, that so much water in the heavens would
have put all the fire out."
C. Mansfield Ingleby.
Birmingham.
The Case referred to hy Shakspeare in Hamlet
(Vol. vii., p. 550.). —
C(
If the water come to the man." — Shakspeare.
•The argument Shakspeare referred to was that
contained in Plow den's Report of the case of
Hales V. Petit, heard in the Court of Common
Pleas in the fifth year of the reign of Queen
Elizabeth. It was held that thouuh the wife of
Sir James Hale, whose husband was felo^de'se^
became by survivorship the holder of a joint term
for years, yet, on office found, it should be for-
feited on account of the act of the deceased hus-
band. The learned Serjeants who were counsel
for the defendant, alleged that the forfeiture
should have relation to the act done in the party's
Uletime^ which was the cause of hia death. '^ And
upon, this," tliey said, " the parts of the act are to
be considered." And Serjeant Walsh said :
<* The act consists of three parts. Tlie first is the
imagination,, which is a reflection or meditation of the
mind, whether or no it is convenient for him to destroy
himself, and what way it can be done. The second is
the resolution, which is the determination of the mind
to destroy himself, and to do it in this or that par-
ticular way. The third is the perfection, which is the
execution of what the mind has resolved to do. And
this perfection consists of two parts, viz. the beginning
and the end. The beginning is the doing of the act
which causes the death ; and the end is the death, which
is only the sequel to the act. And of all the parts, the
doing of tlie act is the greatest in the judgment of our
law, and it is, in effect, the whole and the only part
the law looks upon to be material. For the imagination
of the mind to do wrong, without an act done, is not
punishable in onr law ; neither is the resolution to do
that wrong which he does not, punishable ; but the
doing of the act is the only point the law regards, for
until the act is done it cannot be an offence to the
world, and when the act is done it is punishable. Then,
here, the act done by Sir James Hale, which is evil and
the cause of his death, is the throwing of himself into
the water, and death is but a sequel thereof, and tliis
evil act ought some way to be punished. And if the
forfeiture shall not have relation to the doing of the
act, then the act shall not be punished at all, for inas-
much as the person who did the act is dead, his person
cannot be punished, and therefore there is no way else
to punish him but by the forfeiture of those things
which were his own at the time of tlie act done ; and
the act was done in his lifetime, and therefore the for-
feiture shall have relation to his lifetime, namely, to
that time of his life in which he did the act which took
away his life."
And the judges, viz. Weston, Anthony Brown,
and Lord Dyer, said :
" That the forfeiture shall have relation to the time
of the original offence committed, which was the cause
of the death, and that was, the throwing himself into
the water,, which was done in his lifetime, and this
act was felony.** " So that the felony is attri--
buted to the act, which act is always done by a living
man and in his lifetime^" as Brown said; for he said,
" Sir James Hale was dead, and how came he to his
death ? It may be answered. By drowning. And who
drowned him ? Sir James Hale. And when did he
drown him ? In his lifetime. So that Sir James
Hale being alive, caused Sir James Hale to die ; and
the act of the living man was the death of the dead
man. And then for this offence it is reasonable to
punish the living man who committed the offence, and
not the dead man. But how can he be said to be
punl^ed alive when the punishment comes after his
death ? Sir, this can. be done no other way but by
devesting oat of him, from the time of the act done ia
his life, which was the cause of his death, the title and
property of those things which he had in his lifetime."
The above extract is long, but the work from
which it is taken can be accessible to but very few
124
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 197.
of jour readers. Let them not, however, while
they smile at the arguments, infer that those who
tooK part in them were not deservedly among the
most learned and eminent of our ancient judges.
Thomas Falconer.
Temple.
Shakspeare Suggestion, —
** These sweet thoughts do even refresh my labours ;
Most busy— less when I do it."
Tempeit, Act III. So. 1.
I fear your readers will turn away from the
Tery sight of the above. Be patient, kmd friends,
I will be brief. Has any one suggested —
** Most busy, least when I do**?
The words in the folio are
** Most busy lest, when I do it.**
The *Mt** seems mere surplusage. The sense re-
quires that the thoughts should be **most busy"
whilst the hands **do least;" and in Shakspeare*8
time, **lest" was a common spelling for least.
Icon.
Shakspeare Controversy. — I think the Shak-
speare Notes contained in your volumes are not
complete without the following quotation from
The Summer Night of Ludwig 'neck, as translated
by Mary Maynard in the Athen. of June 25, 1853.
Puck, in addressing the sleeping boy Shakspeare,
flsys :
" After thy death, V\\ raise dissension sharp.
Loud strife among the herd of little minds :
Envy shall seek to dim thy wondrous page,
But all the clearer will thy glory shine.**
Ceridwen.
Falsijied Gravestone in Stratford Churchyard.
— The following instance of a recent forgery
having been extensively circulated, may lead to
more careful examination by those who take notes
of things extraordinary.
The church at Stratford-upon-Avon was re-
paired about the year 1889 ; and some of the
workmen having their attention directed to the
fact, that many persons who had attained to the
full age of man were buried in the churchyard ;
and, wishing ** for the honour of the place,** to
improve the note-books of visitors, set about
manufacturing an extraordinary instance of lon-
§evity. A gravestone was chosen in an out-of-
le-way place, in which there happened to be
a space before the age (72). A figure 1 was
cut in this space, and the age at death then
stood 172. The sexton was either deceived, or
assented to the deception ; as the late vicar, the
Rev. J. Clayton, learned that it had become a
practice with him (the sexton) to show strangers
this gravestone, so falsified, as a proof of the ex-
traordinary age to which people lived in the pariah.
The vicar had the fraudulent figure erased at once,
and lectured the sexton for his dishonesty.
These facts were related to me a few weeks since
by a son of the late vicar. And as many strangers
visiting the tomb of Shakspeare "made a note** of
this falsified age, "N. & Q.'* may now correct the
forgery. Robert Rawlinson^.
Barnacles in the River Thames. — In Porta's
Natural Magic^ £ng. trans., Lond. 1658, occurs
the following curious passage :
** Late writers report that not only in Scotland, but
also in the river of Thames by London, there is a kind
of shell-fish in a two-leaved shell, that hath a foot full
of plaits and wrinkles : these fish are little, round, and
outwardly white, smooth and heetle*.shelled like an
almond shell ; inwardly they are great bellied, bred as
it were of moss and mud ; they commonly stick in the
keel of some old ship. Some say they come of wornM*
some of the boughs of trees which fall into the sea ; if
any of them be cast upon shore they die, but they
which are swallowed still into the sea, live and get out
of their shells, and grow to be ducks or such like
birds (!)."
It would be curious to know what could give
rise to such an absurd belief. Sfebibmd.
Note for London Topographers. '-^
** The account of Mr. Mathias Fletcher, of Green-
wich, for carving the Anchor Shield and King's Arms
for the Admiralty Office in York Buildings, delivered
Nov. 2, 1668, and undertaken by His Majesty's com-
mand signified to me by the Hon. Samuel Pepys, £sq.»
Secretary for the Affairs of the Admiralty :
*« For a Shield for the middle of the £ s. d^
front of the said office towards the Thames,
containing the Anchor of Lord High Ad-
miral of England with the Imperial Crown
over it, and cyphers, being 8 foot deep and
6 foot broad, I having found the timber,
&c. 30 0 O
** For the King's Arms at large, with
ornaments thereto, designed for the pedi-
ment of the said front, the same being in
the whole 1 5 foot long and 9 foot high, I
finding timber, &c. - - - • 73 15 0
£103 15 O**
Extracted from Rawlinson MS. A. 170, fol. 132.
J. Yeowblim
The Aliases and Initials of Authors. — It ha»
often occurred to me that it would save much
useless inquiry and research, if a tolerable list
could be collected of the principal authors who»
have published their works under assumed names
or initials : thus, " R. B. Robert Burton," Nathaniel
Crouch^ "R.F.Scoto-Britannicus," RohertFairUif^
&c. The commencement of a new volume of
Aug. 6. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
125
^' N". & Q." affords an excellent opportunity for at-
tempting this. If the correspondents of " N. & Q."
would contribute their mites occasionally with this
view, by the conclusion of the volume, I have little
doubt but a very valuable list might be obtained.
For the sake of reference, the whole contributions
obtained could then be amalgamated, and alpha-
betically arranged. Pebthensis.
Pure, — In visiting an old blind woman the
other day, I was struck with what to me was a
peculiar use of the word pure. Having inquired
after the dame*s health, and been assured that she
was much better, I bei^n^ed her not to rise from
the bed on which she was sitting, whereupon she
said, '* Thank you, Sir, I feel quite pure this
OXONIENSIS.
mornmg.
Oakridge, Gloucestershire.
Darling's ''^ Cyclop<Bdia Bibliographical'' — The
utility of Mr. Darling's Cydoposdia Bihliographica
is exemplified by the solution conveyed under the
title " Crellius," p. 813., of the following difficulty
expressed by Dr. Hey, the Norrisian professor
(^Lectures, vol. iii. p. 40.) :
" Paul Crellius and John Maclaurin seem to have
been of the same way of thinking with John Agricola.
Nicholls, on this Article [Eighth of the Thirly-nine
Articles], refers to Paul Crellius's book Be Liberlate
Christiana^ but I do not find it anywhere. A speech of
his is in the Bodleian Catalogue, but not this work."
Similar information might have been received
by your correspondent (Vol. vii., p. 381.), who
inquired whether Huet's Navigations of Solomon
was ever published. In the Cyclopaedia reference
IS made to two collections in which this treatise
has been inserted, Crit Sac, viii. ; Ugolinus, vii.
277. With his usual accuracy, Mr. Darling states
there are additions in the Critici Sacri printed at
Amsterdam, 1698-1732, as Huet's treatise above
referred to is not in the first edition, London,
1660. BiBLIOTHECAB. ChETHAM.
<kMtxiti*
DELFT MANUFACTURE.
I am extremely desirous of obtaining some in-
formation respecting the Dutch manufactories of
enamelled pottery, or Delft ware, as we call it.
On a former occasion, by your connexion with
the Navorscher, you were able to obtain for me
some very valuable and interesting information in
reply to some question put respecting the Dutch
porcelain manufactories. I am therefore in hopes
that some kind correspondent in Holland will be
so obliging as to impart to me similar information
on this subject also. I should wish to know —
When, by whom, at what places, and under
what circumstances, the manufacture of enamelled
pottery was first introduced into Holland ?
Whether there were manufactories at other
towns besides Delft ?
Whether they had any distinctive marks ; and,
if so, what were they ?
Whether there was more than one manufactory
at Delft ; and, if so, what were their marks, and
what was the meaning of them ?
Whether any particular manufactories were
confined to the making of any particular sort or
quality of articles ; and, if so, what were they ?
Whether any of the manufactories have ceased ;
and, if so, at what period ?
Also, any other particulars respecting the ma-
nufactories and their products that it may be pos-
sible to communicate through the medium of a
paper like " N. & Q." Octavius Morgan*
fRinav ^xtztici.
The Withered Hand and Motto " UtinamJ'^ —
At Compton Park, near Salisbury, the seat of the
Penruddocke family, there is a three-quarter
length picture, in the Velasquez style, of a gen-
tleman in a rich dress of black velvet, with broad
lace frill and cufis, and ear-rings, probably of the
latter part of Queen Elizabeth*s reign. His right
hand, which he displays somewhat prominently, is
withered. The left one is a-kimbo, and less seen.
In the upper part of the painting is the single
Latin word " utinam " (O that !). There is no
tradition as to who this person was. Any sug-
gestion on the subject would gratify J,
History of York, — Who is the author of a
History of Yorh^ in 2 vols., published at that city
in 1788 by T. Wilson and R. Spence, High Ouse-
gate ? I have seen it in several shops, and heard
it attributed to Drake ; and obtained it the other
day from an extensive library in Bristol, in the
Catalogue of which it is styled Drake's Ehoracum.
Several allusions in the first volume to his work,
however, render it impossible to be ascribed to
him. It is dedicated to the Right Honourable Sir
William Mordaunt Milner, of 2Tunappleton, Bart.,
who was mayor at the time. R. W. Elliot.
Cliflon.
^^ Hauling over the coals,"" — What is the origin
and meaning of the phrase, " Hauling one over
the coals ;** and where does it first appear ? Fabeb.
Dr, Butler and St. Edmund's Bury, — Can any
of your readers give me any information respect-
ing the Mr. or Dr. Butler, of St. Edmund's Bury,
referred to in the extracts from the Post Boy and
Gough's Topography, quoted by Mr. Ballard in
Vol. vii., p. 617. ? BuRiENSis.
Washington, — Anecdotes relative to General
Washington, President of the United States, in-
126
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 197.
tended for a forthcoming work on the " Homes of
American Statesmen," will be gratefully received
for the author by Joseph Stansburt.
26. Parliament Streer.
Norman of Winster. — Can any of your corre-
spondents afford information bearing on the family
of Norman of Winster, county of Derby ?
" John Norman of Winster, county of Derby,
married, in 1715 or 17 16, to Jane (maiden name par-
ticularly wanted). The said J. Norman married
again in 1723, to Mary" (maiden name wanted
also).
I shall be particularly obliged to any one afford-
ing such information. W.
Sir Arthur Aston, — I shall be much obliged,
should any of your very numerous correspondents
be able to inform me in which part or parish, of
the county of Berkshire, the celebrated cavalier
Sir Arthur Aston resided upon his return from the
foreign wars in which he nad been for so many
years engaged ; and previously to the rupture be-
tween Charles I. and the Houses of Parliament.
I believe one of his daughters, about the same
period, married a gentleman residing in the same
county: also that George Tattersall, Esq., of
Finchampstead, a family of consideration in the
same county of Berkshire, was a near relative.
Chabthah.
^^Jamieso7i the Piper,** — I am anxious to ascer-
tain who was the author of the above ditty ; it
was very popular in Aberdeenshire about the
beginning of this century. The scene, if I remem-
ber rightly, is laid, in the parish of Forgue, in
Aberdeenshire. Possibly some of the members of
the Spalding Club may be able to enlighten me
on the subject. Batheksis.
^^ Reiser Glomer^^ — I have a Danish play enti-
tled Keiser Olomer, Frit oversatte afdet Kyhhmske
vech C. Bredahl: Kiobenhavn, 1834. It is a mix-
ture of tragedy and farce : the former occasionally
good, the latter poor buffoonery. In the notes,
readings of the old MS. are referred to with
apparent seriousness ; but Gammel Gumbas Saga
is quoted in a manner that seems burlesque. I
cannot find the word " Kyhlam" in any dictionary.
Can any of your readers tell me whether it signi-
fies a real country, or is a mere fiction ? The
work does not read like a translation ; and, if one,
the number of modern allusions show that it is
not, as it professes to be, from an ancient manu-
script. M. M. E.
TiecKs Comadia Divina, — I copied the follow-
ing lines six years ago from a review in a Munich
newspaper of Batornicki's UhgottUche Comodie.
They were cited as from Tieck's suppressed (zu-
riickgezogen) satire, Za Comodie Divina^ from
which Batornicki was accused of plundering freelj,
thinking that, from its variety, he would not be
detected :
** Spifzt so hoch ihr konnt euer Ohr,
Gar wunderbare Dinge kommeD hier vor.
Gott Vater identificirt sich mit der Kreatur,
Denn er will anschauen die absolute Natar ;
Aber zum Bewustseyn kann er nicht gedeihen.
Drum muss cr sich mit sich selbst entzweien."
I omitted to note the paper, but preserved the
lines as remarkable. I have since tried to find
some account of La Divina Comedia^ but in vain.
It is not noticed in any biography of Tieck. Can
any of your readers tell me what it is, or who
wrote it P M. M. E.
Fossil Trees between Cairo and Suez — JS^eam
like that in Bay of ArgastoU, — Can any of yovt
readers oblige me by stating where the best in-
formation may be met with concerning the veiy
remarkable fossil trees on the way from Cairo ta
Suez? And, if there has yet been cOscovered
any other stream or rivulet running from the
ocean into the land similar to that in the Bay of
ArgastoU in the Island of Cephalonia ? B« IL
Presbyterian Titles (Vol. v., p. 516.). — Where
may be found a list of '* the quaint and nncouA
titles of the old Presbyterians r "
P. J. F. GiJXTULuoim, B. A.
Mayors and Sheriffs, — Can you or any of your
readers inform me which ought to be considered
the principal ofiicer, or which is the most import-
ant^ and which ought to have precedence of the
other, the mayor of a town or borough, or the
sheriff of a town or borough ? and is the mayor
merely the representative of the town, and the
sheriff of the Queen ; and if so, ought not the re-
Eresentative of majesty to be considered more
onourable than the representative of merely a
borough ; and can a sheriff of a borough claim to
have a grant of arms, if he has not any previous ?
A SUBSCBIBEB.
Nottingham.
The Beauty of BuUermere. — In an article con-
tributed by Coleridnje to the Morning Post (yid.
Essays on his own Times, vol. ii. p. 591.), he says;
<' It seems that there are some circumstances attend-
ing her birth and true parentage, which would aoeooDt
for her striking superiority in mind and manners, in a
way extremely flattering to the prejudices of rank and
birth."
What are the circumstances alluded to P
R. W. EuuoT.
Clifton.
Sheer Hulk, — Living in a maritime town, i^d
hearing nautical terms frequently used, I had al-
ways supposed this term to mean an old
Aug. 6. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
127
with sheers, or spars, erected upon it, for the pur-
pose of masting and unmasting ships, and was led
to attribute the use of it, by Sir W. Scott and
other writers, for a vessel totally dismasted, to
their ignorance of the technical terms. But of
late it has been used in the latter sense by, a
writer in the United Service Magazive professing
to be a nautical man. I still suspect that this use
of the word is wrong, and should be glad to hear
on the subject from any of your naval readers.
I believe that the word " buckle " is still used
in the dockyards, and among seamen, to signify to
»' bend" (see " N. & Q.," Vol. vii., p. 375.), though
rarely. J. S. Warden.
The Lapwing lor Peewitt ( Vanellus cristaius). —
Can any of your correspondents, learned in natural
history, throw any light upon the meaning in the
following line relative to this bird ? —
** The blackbird far its hues shall know,
As lapwing knows the Tine."
In the first line the allusion is to the berries of the
hawthorn ; but what the lapwing has to do with
the mne^ I am at a loss to know. Having forgotten
whence I copied the above lines, perhaps some one
will favor me with the author's name.
J. B. Wbitbobne.
" CouM we with ink,^^ Sfc. — Could you, or any
of your numerous and able correspondents, in-
form me who is the bona fide author of the follow-
ing lines ? —
'' Could we with ink the ocean 'fill.
And were the heavens of parchment made,
Were every stalk on earth a quill,
And every man a scribe by trade ;
To write the love of God above,
Would drain the ocean dry ;
Nor could the scroll contain the whole.
Though stretch*d from sky to sky.**
Naphtali.
Launching Query. — With reference to the acci-
dent to H.M.S. CaBsar at Pembroke, I would ask,
Is there any other instance of a ship, on being
launched, stopping on the ways, and refusing to
move in spite of all efforts to start her ? A. B.
Manliness. — Query, What is the meaning of
the word as used in " N. & Q.," Vol. viii., p. 94.,
col. 2. 1. 12. Anonymous.
Pues or Pews. — Which is the correct way of
spelling this word ? What is its derivation ? Why
has the form pue been lately so much adopted ?
Omega.
[The abuses connected with the introduction of pues
into ohuTcfaes have led to an investigation of their his-
tory, as veU 4W to the etymology of the word. Heooe
the modern adoption of its original and more correct
orthography, that of pve ; the Dutch puyCf puyd, and
the English pue, being derived from the Latin podium.
In Vol. iii., p. 56. ■, we quoted the following as the earliest
notice of the word from the Vision of Piers Plouman:
** Among wyves and wodewes ich am ywoned sute
Yparroked in pties. The person hit knowetb.**
Again, in Richard III. t Act IV. Sc. 4. : "And makes
her pue-fellow with others moan.*' — In Decker's Wett"
ward Hoe : ** Being one day in church, she made mone
to her pue-fellow.** — And in the Northern Hoe of the
same author : ** He would make him a pue-fellow witb-
lords." — See a paper on TTie History of Pews, read be-
fore the Cambridge Camden Society, Nov. 22, 1841.]
** Jemingham*^ and " Doveton.** — Who was the
author of Jemingham and Doveton^ two admirable
works of fiction published some twelve or fifteen
years ago ? They are equal to anything written
by Bulwer Lytton or by James. J. Mt.
[The author of these works was Mr. Aastrutber.^
BATTXE OF VILLBBS EN COVCHB.
(Vol. viii., p. 8.)
I possess a singular work, consisting of a series
of Poetical Sketches of the campaigns of 1793 and
1794, written, as the title-page asserts, by an
" officer of the Guards ;" who appears to have been,,
from what he subsequently states, on the personal
staff of His Royal Highness the late Duke of York.
This work, I have been given to understand, was-
suppressed shortly after its publication ; the ludi-
crous light thrown by its pages on the conduct of
many of the chief parties engaged in the transac*
tions it records, being no doubt unpalatable ta
those* high in authority. From the notes, whidi
are valuable as appearing to emanate from an eye-
witness, and sometimes an actor in the scenes he
describes, I send the following extracts for the
information of your correspondent ; premising
that the letter to which they are appended is dated'
from the " Camp at Inchin, April 26, 1794."
" As the enemy were known to have assembled in
great force at the Camp de Caesar, near Cambray,
Prince Cobourg requested the Duke of York would
make a reconnaissance in that direction : accordingly,
on the evening of the 23rd, Major- General MansePs
brigade of heavy cavalry was ordered about a league'
in front of their camp, where they lay that night at
a farm-house, forming part of a detachment under
General Otto. Early the next morning, an attack was
made on the French drawn up in front of the village
of Villers en Couchee (between Le Cateau and Bou-
cbain) by the 15th regiment of Light Dragoon?, and
two squadrons of Austrian Hussars : they charged '
the enemy with such velocity and force, that, darting
through their cavalry, they dispersed a line of infantiy
formed in their rear, forcing them also to retreat pre-
1&8
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 197.
cipitately and in great confusion, under cover of the
ramparts of Cambray ; with a loss of 1 200 men, and
three pieces of cannon. The only British officer
««rouDded was Captain Aylett : sixty privates fell, and
''about twenty were wounded.
** Though the heavy brigade was formed at a dis-
itance under a brbk cannonade, while the light dragoons
luid so glorious an opportunity of distinguishing them-
selves, there are none who can attach with propriety
any blame on account of their unfortunate delay ; for
which General Otto was surely, as having the com-
mand, alone accountable, and not General Mansel, who
acted at all times, there is no doubt, according to the
best of his judgment for the good of the service.
** The Duke of York had, on the morning of the
26th, observed the left flank of the enemy to be unpro-
tected ; and, by ordering the cavalry to wheel round
and attack on that side, afforded them an opportunity
of gaining the highest credit by defeating the French
army so much superior to them in point of numbers.
** General Mansel rushing into the thickest of the
enemy, devoted himself to death ; and animated by his
example, that very brigade performed such prodigies of
valour, as must have convinced the world that Britons,
once informed how to act, justify the highest opinion
that can possibly be entertained of their native courage.
Could such men have ever been willingly backward?
Certainly not.
<* General Hansel's son, a captain in the 3rd Dragoon
Guards, anxious to save his father's life, had darted
forwards, and was taken prisoner, and carried into
Cambray. Since his exchange, he has declared that
there was not, on the 26th, a single French soldier left
in the town, as Chapuy had drawn out the whole gar-
rison to augment the army destined to attack the camp
of Inchi. Had that circumstance been fortunately
known at the time, a detachment of the British army
might easily have marched along the Chauss^e, and
taken possession of the place ere the Republicans could
possibly have returned, as they had in their retreat
described a circuitous detour of some miles." •
Mb. Simpson will perceive, from the above
extracts, that the brilliant skirmish of Villers en
Couche took place on April 24th ; whereas the
defeat of the French army under Chapuy did not
occur until two days later. A lar^^e quantity of
ammunition and thirty-five pieces of cannon were
then captured ; and although the writer does not
mention the number who were killed on the part
of the enemy, yet, as he states that Chapuy and
near 400 of bis men were made prisoners, their
loss by death was no doubt proportionately large.
The 15th Hussars have long borne on their
colours the memorable words ** Villers en Couche"
to commemorate the daring valour they displayed
on that occasion. T. C. Smith.
In CruttwelFs Universal Gazetteer (1808), this
^lage, which is five miles north-east of Cambray,
18 described as being '* remarkable for an action
between the French and the Allies on the 24th of
April, 1794.** The following officers of the 15th
regiment of light dragoons are there named as
having afterwards received crosses of the Order of
Maria Theresa for their gallant behaviour, from
the Emperor of Germany, viz. :
" Major W. Aylett, Capt, Robert Pocklington, Capt.
Edw. Michael Ryan, Lieut. Thos. Granby Calcraft,
Lieut. Wm. Keir, Lieut. Chas. Burrel Blount, Cornet
Edward Gerald Butler, and Cornet Robert Thos.
Wilson."
D. S.
SNAIL-EATING.
(Vol. viii., p. 33.)
The Surrey snails referred to by H. T. Hilet,
are thus mentioned by Aubrey in his account of
Box Hill :
** On the south downs of this county (Surrey), and
in those of Sussex, are the biggest snails that ever I
saw, twice or three times as big as our common snails,
which are the BavoU or Drivalle, which Mr. Elias
Ashmole tells me that the Lord Marshal brought
from Italy, and scattered them on the Downs here-
abouts, and between Albury and Horsley, where are
the biggest of all.*'
Again, Aubrey, in his Natural History of Wilt'
shire, says :
" The great snailes on the downes at Albury, in
Surrey (twice as big as ours) were brought from Italy
by * ♦ * Earle Marshal, about 1638." — Aubrey's
History, p. 10., edited by John Britton, F.S.A., pub-
lished by the Wiltshire Topographical Society, 1 847.
The first of these accounts, from Aubrey's Surrey,
I have quoted in my Promenade round Dorking,
2nd edit. 1823, p. 274., and have added in a note :
" This was one of the Earls of Arundel. It is pro-
bably from this snail account that the error, ascribing
the planting of the box (on Box Hill) to one of the
Earls of Arundel, has arisen. The snails were brought
thither for the Countess of Arundel, who was accus-
tomed to dress and eat them for a consumptive com-
plaint."
When I lived at Dorking (1815—1821) a breed
of large white snails was found on Box Hill.
John Times.
Mr. H. T. Rilet is informed that the breed of
white snails he refers to is to be plentifully found
in the neighbourhood of Shere. I have found
them frequently near the neighbouring village of
Albury, on St. Martha*s Hill, and I am told they
are to be met with in the lanes as far as Dorking.
I have always heard that they were imported for
the use of a lady who was in a consumption ; but
who this was, or when it happened, I have never
been able to ascertain. Kbdlam.
The breed of large white snails is to be found
all along the escarpment of the chalk range, and is
Aug. 6. 1853.]
NOTES AND QnERIES.
BOt confined to SurrOT. It ia said to have been
introduced into England bj Sir Eenelm Digbj,
Wid was considered very nutritious and wholeiome
for consuniptire patients. About the end of the
kst century I was in the habit of collectin_g a few
of tbe common garden snails from the fruit'trees,
and taking them every morning to a lady who was
in a delicale atate of health ; sbe took them boiled
or stewed, or cooked in some manner witb milk,
making a mucilaginous drink. E. H.
I have eomewbere read of the introduction of a
foreign breed of snails into Cambridgeahire, I
forget the exact locality, for the table of the
monks who imported them ; but unfortunately it
was before I commenced making *■ notes " on tbe
subject, and I have not been able to recollect
where to find it. Seledcds.
(Vol. Tiii., p. 76.)
This inscription ia not " in Earl Bathurst's
|HU'k," as your correspondent A. Smitr saya, but
IS in Oakley Woods, situated at some three or four
miles' distance from Cirencester, and being sepa-
rated and quite distinct from the park j nor ia the
inscription correctly copied. Hudder, in bis new
HUtory of Oloueeitershire, 1779, says:
" Concealed u it were in the wood atands Airred'a
Ball, a building that has the sembUnce of great aii-
tiquily. Over the door opposite to the south entrance,
on the inside, is the follawmg inscription in the Saion
character and language [of whicli there follows ■
copy]. Over the south door is the fuUowiiig Latin
translation :
" ' Fcedua quod ^Ifrodua & Gylhrunus reges,
omnea Aitj^lla tapiaita, Sf piicuig ; Angllnm incolebant
orientalem, ferierunt ; & non aolum de aeipsia, verum
etiam de natfa suis, ac nondum in lucem editis, quot.
quot miiencoTdiie divintc aut regiv Telint esse parti-
cipe^ jurcjurando sanierunt.
'"I'rimd ditionis nostra fines ad TAainesin eie-
huiitur, inde ad Leam uaq; ad fontem ejus ; turn recta
ad BedlbrdUin, *ac deniq; per Usam ad viam Vete-
I copy from Rudder, with the atopa and con-
tracted " et's," as they stand in his work ; though
I think the original has points between each word,
SS marked by A. Smith.
The omissions and mistakes of your correspon-
dent (whiuh you will perceive are important) are
marked in Italics above.
Rudder adds, —
■' Behind this building is a ruin with a stone on the
chimney-piece, on which, in ancient characters leliered
on the stone, is this inscription :
who should not have Informed the reader that this
building ia an eicellent imiutiun of antiquity. The
name, the inscription, and the ivrlting over the doors,
of the eonrention between the good king and his pagan
enemies, were probably all suggested by the similarity
of Achelie, the ancient name of this place, to ^cglta,
where King Alfred tested with bis army the night
before he attacked the Danish camp at Ethandun,
and at length forced their leader Godrum, or Cuthrum,
or Gormund, to make such convention."
It is many years since I saw the inscription, and
then I made no note of it ; but I have no doubt
that Rudder baa given it correctly, because when
I was a young man I was intimately acquainted
with him, who was then an aged person ; and a
curious circumstance that occurred between ua,
and is still full in my memory, impressed me with
tbe idea of his great precision and exactness.
I would remark on tbe explanation given by
Rudder, that the Iglea of Asser is supposed by
Camden, Gibson, Gougb, and Sir Richard Colt
Hoare to be Clayhill, eastward of Warminster ;
and Ethandun to be Ediiielan, about three miles
eastward of Weslbury, both in Wilts.
Asser says that, " in the same year," the year of
tjie battle, " the army of tbe pagans, departing
from Chippenham, as had been promised, went to
Cireneealer, where they remained one year."
On tbe signal defeat of Guthrum, be gave bos-
tages to Alfred ; and it is probable that, if any
treaty was made between them, it was made im-
mediately after the battle j and not that Alfred
came from liia fortress of ^Ihelivgay to meet
Guthrum at Cirencester, where bis army lay afler
leaving Chippenham.
If the treaty was made soon af^r the battle, it
might have been at Alfred's Hall near Cirences-
ter, especially if Hampton (Minchinhampton in
Glonceaterahire), which ia only six miles from
Oakley Wood, be the real site of the ^reat and
important battle, as was, a few years since, very
plausibly argued by Mr. John Marka Moflatt, in a
Eaper inserted, with the signature " J. M. M.," in
irayley's Graphic and Hialoricalllhatrator, p. 106.
et teq., 1834.
The mention of Rudder's Illstory brings to my
mind an inscription over the door of Westbury
Court, which I noticed when a boy at school, in
the village of Westbury in this county. This man-
sion was taken down during the minority of Mav-
nard Colchester, Esq., the present owner of tbe
estate. Rudder, in bis account of that parish, has
preserved the inscription —
" It would have been inexcusable in the topographer
to have passed by so eurioui a place without notice ;
but the bislariau would have bten equally culpable
He reads the first three letters "Deo Optimo
Maximo," and says the subsequent line contains
the initials of the following hexameter :
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 197.
alluding to the successive descent of property fron
one generation to another.
Perhaps one of your reitdera may be enabled tc
tell me whether the above line be original, oi
copied, and from whom. P. H. Fibbeb
Stroud.
The agreement referred to is no other than
the famous treaty of peace between Alfred and
Guthrun, whose name, by the substitution of at
initial " L." for a " G.," among various other inac-
curacies for which your corrcapondent is perhapf
not responsible, has been disguised under the form
of "LvthrTnvs." The inscription itself forma the
commencement of the treaty, which is stated, in
Turner's Anglo- Saxoas, book iv. ch. t., to be still
extant. It ia translated as follows, in Lambard'e
4pX«o«V"«, p. 36. ; —
"Fndus quoJ AlureJui & Gjthruaui r^ei » w-
plenlum Anglorum, alque eorum ommuiii qui orLea-
talem incolebuit Angliam oonsiilto ferieroDt, !□ quod
praterea sioguU uan boIlub de se ipns, verum etUm ie
nJitis suls, Bc nondum in lucem editii (quotquot saltern
miserioorcli« ditinc aut regie veliat cste participes),
"Ftimo i^tur diiionii nostra fines ad Thameehn
AuTinm evehuntor : Inde od Leam flumen profecti. ad
fontem ejui deferuntor: turn recti ad Bedfcmliani por-
riguDtor. ae denique per Usam fluriuiniiorrecti kd Tiam
Vetelingianam deainuntD."
Another translation will be found in Wilkins's
I^etAnglo-SaxonKie, p. 47., and the Saxon ori-
^ual in both. As to the boundaries here defined,
see note in Spelman's Alfred, p. 36,
At Cirencester Guthrun remained for twelve
months afler his baptism, according to his treaty
with Alfred. (See Sim. Dmulm. dcge^ii Region
Angloram, sub anno 679.) J. F. M".
Ctruous ctrstOH c
(Vot.v
.,p.55.)
W. Wt alluding to such a castora at Marshfield,
Maaaachnaeta, asks "if this custom ever did, or
doM now exist in the mother country?" The
curiosity is that jour worthy Querist has nevDr
beard of it ! Dating from Malta, it may be he has
never been in our ringiitg i^antl .- for it must be
known to every Englishman, that the custom,
varying no doubt in different localities, exists in
every pariah in England.
Tacpaagi?is bell is of older date than the canon
of our church, which directs " that when any is
passing out of this life, a bell shall be tolled, and
the mmiater shal! not then slack to do bia daty.
And after the party's death, if h so fall ont, thai
shall b« rung no more than one ibort peaL"
It is interesting to learn that our colouiata keep
up this custom of their mother country.
In this parish, the custom has been to ring as
quickly aftj^r death as the aexton can be found;
and toe like prevails elsewhere. I have known
persons, lenaible of their approaching death, direct
the bell at once to be tolled.
Durand, in his Rituali of the Roman Church,
aays : " For expiring persons bells must be tolled.
And auch ia Btill the general custom : either before
or after the hteli ia rung, to toil three times three,
or three times two, at intervals, to mark the sex.*
"Defunctos plorare" is probably ag old as any
use of a bell ; but there is every reason to beliere^
that —
" the ringiDg oF bells at the departure of the soul (to
quote from Brewster's Eney, ) originated in the darkest
ag«a, but with a different view fram that in which the;
■re DOW employed. It was to avert the inlluenoe of
Demons. Bui if the Biiperstition of our ancestort
did not originate in this ima^nary virtue, while Ibey
preaerved the practice, it is cerlaia tbey believed the
mere nolae had the asme effect; and as, according to
their ideas, evil apirita were always hoTering around to
make ■ prey of departing louls, the tolling of belli
struck them with terror. We may trace the practio*
of tolling bells during funerals to the like aource^ This
baa been practised from times of great antiquity ; the
bells being muffled, fin the nke of greater solemnity,
in the aame way as drums are muffled at mililary
H. T. Ellacohbb.
iteclory, Qyat Sl George.
At St. James' Church, Hull, on the occurrence
of a death in the parish, a bell is tolled quickly
for about the space of ten minutes ; and before
ceasing, nine knells g^ven if the deceased be a
man, six if a woman, and three if a child. As far
as I have been able to ascertain, the custom is
now almost peculiar to the north of England ; but
in ancient limca it must have been very general
according to Durandua, who has the following in
his ila/iona^e, lib. i. cap. 4. 13.:
" Verum allquo morlente, cnmpanx dcbent pulsari;
ul populus hoe audiens, oret pro illo. Pro muliero
quidem l>i$, pro co quod invenit asperitatem .... Pro
vicibus simpulsatur. quot ordines h
ultimum vero compulsiirl debet cum o:
■ populuspioquositoranduc
1. aid Cult., I
. 176.
—Mr. SlruU**
* This custom of three tolls for a nun, and [wo for
1 woman, ia tlius eipiained in an ancient Homily on
rHnity Sunday: — " At the deth of a meune, three
ImIIi ^ould be ronge as hit knyll in worship of the
Trinitie. And for a woman, who wai the second per-
il^ of the Trinitie, two bells should be ronge."
Aug. 6. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
131
Also a passage is quoted from an old English
Homily, ending with :
" At the deth of a manne three bell is 'shulde be
ronge, as his knyll, in worscheppe of the Trinetee ; and
for a womanne, who was the secunde persone of the
Trinetee, two bellls should be rungen."
In addition to the intention of the "passing-
bell," afforded by Durandus above, ijb has been
thought that it was rung to drive away the evil
spirits, supposed to stand at the foot of the bed
ready to seize the soul, that it might '* gain start."
Wynkyn de Worde, in his Golden Legend^ speaks
of the dislike of spirits to bells. In alluding to
this subject, "Wheatly, in his work on the Book of
Common Prayer, chap. xi. sec. viii. 3., says :
** Our Church, in imitation of the Saints of former
ages, calls in the minister, and others who are at hand,
to assist their brother in his last extremity."
The 67th canon enjoins that, " when any one is
passing out of this life, a bell shall be tolled, and
the minister shall not then slack to do his duty.
And after the party's death, if it so fall out, there
shall be rung no more than one short peaV*
Several other quotations might be adduced
(vid. Brand's Antiq,, vol. ii. pp. 203, 204. from
which much of the above has been derived) to
show that " one short peal " was ordered only to
be rung after the Reformation : the custom of
signifying the sex of the deceased by a certain
number of knells must be a relic, therefore, of very
ancient usage, and unauthorised by the Church.
R. W. Elliot.
Clifkon.
was living in Bremen, and who, in her correspon-
dence with her brother, had been rallying him
about the American spirit-rappings, and other
Yankee humbug, as she styled it, so rampant in
the United States. Her brother instanced this
table-moving, performed in America, as no delusion,
but as a fact, which might be verified by any one ;
and then gave some directions for making the
experiment, which was forthwith attempted at the
lady's house in Bremen, and with perfect success,
in the presence of a large company. In a few
days the marvellous feat, the accounts of which
flew like wildfire all over the country, was exe-
cuted by hundreds of experimenters in Bremen.
The subject was one precisely adapted to excite
the attention and curiosity of the imaginative and
wonder-loving Germans; and, accordingly, in
a few days after, a notice of the strange pheno-
menon appeared in The Times, in a letter from
Vienna, and, through the medium of the leading
journal, the facts and experiments became rapidly
diffused over the world, and have been repeated
and commented upon ten thousand fold. As the
experiment and its results are now brought within
the domain of practical science, we may hope to
sep them soon freed from the obscurity and uncer-
tainly which still envelope them, and assigned to
their proper place in the wondrous system of
** Him, in whom we live, and move, and have our
being." John Maceat.
Oxford.
WHO FIBST THOUGHT OP TABLE- T UBNING ?
(Vol. viii., p. 57.)
Respecting the origin of this curious pheno-
menon in America, I am not able to give your
correspondent, J. G. T. of Hagley, any inform-
ation ; but it may interest him and others among
the readers of " N. & Q." to have some account
of what appears to be the first recorded experi-
ment, made in Europe, of table-moving. These
experiments are related in the supplement (now
lying before me) to the AUgemeine Zeitung of
April 4, by Dr. K. Andree, who writes from
Bremen on the subject. His letter is dated
March 30, and begins by stating that the whole
town had been for eight days preceding in a state
of most peculiar excitement, owing to a pheno-
menon which entirely absorbed the attention of
all, and about which no one had ever thought
before the arrival of the American steam-ship
" Washington " from New York. Dr. Andree
proceeds to relate that the information respect-
ing table-moving was communicated in a letter,
brought through that ship, from a native of
Bremen, residing in New York, to his sister, who
SCOTCHMEN IN POLAND.
(Vol. vii., pp. 475. 600.)
" Religious freedom was at that time [the middle of
the sixteenth century] enjoyed in Poland to a degree
unknown in any other part of Europe, where generally ,
the Protestants were persecuted by the Romanists, or
the Romanists by the Protestants. This freedom, united
to commercial advantages, and a wide field for the exer-
cise of various talents, attracted to Poland crowds of
foreigners, who iled their native land on account of
religious persecution ; and many of whom became, by
their industry and talents, very useful citizens of their
adopted country. There were at Cracow, Vilna, Posei^
&c., Italian and French Protestant congregations, A
great number of Scotch settled in different parts of
Poland ; and there were Scotch Protestant congr^a-
tions not only in the above-mentioned towns, but also
in other places, and a particularly numerous one at
Kieydany, a little town of Lithuania, belonging to the
Princes Radziwill. Amongst the Scotch families set-
tled in Poland, the principal were the Bonars, who
arrived in that country hefore the Heformation, but
became its most zealous adherents. This family rose,
by its wealth, add the great merit of several of its
members, to the highest dignities of the state, but b&f
came extinct during the seventeenth century. There
are even now in Poland many families of Scotch de-
scent belonging to the class of nobles ; as, for instance,
132
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 197.
tlic Hsliburtani, Wllsani, Fergusei, Stuarts, HftsUn,
Watsons. &c. Tvo PratettHiit clergymen of Scotch
origin, Fonjlh and Inglis, have composed lome sacred
poetTf. But the most eontpicuous of all the Polish
Seolchinen is undoubtedly Dr. John Johnstone [born
in PoUnd 1603, died 16T5], perhaps the most remark-
able writer of the serenteenth century on natural his-
torj-. It seems, indeed, that there is a mysterious linL
connecting the two distant countries ; because, if many
Scotsmen had in bygone days sought and found a
wcond tatherland in Poland, a strong and acliie sym-
pathy for the sufferings of the last-named country, and
her exiled children, has been evinced in our own times
by the natives of Scotland in general, and by some of
the most distinguished amongst them in pirlicular.
Thui it was an eminent bard of Caledonia, the gifted
author of The Pkmurn of Hopt, who, when
' Sarmatia fell, unwept, without a crime,'
ha* thrown, by bis immortal strains, over the &II of her
liberty, ■ halo of glory which will remain unfaded as
long as the Eni;1ish language lasts. The name of
Thomas Campbell is venerated throughout all Pohnd;
but there is also another Scotch name [Lord Dudley
Stuart} which is enshrined in the heart of every true
Pole."— From Count ValerUn Krasinski's Skttch of
the Stligioii Hiitory of the Sclavonic NUlioaj, p. 167. :
Edinburgh, Johnstone and Hunter, 18S1.
J.K.
ASTICIPATOBI TTSIS OF THE C}
(VoL vii., pp. 548. 629.)
IthinkTsE Wbiterof "Commdnii
THE Un9EBH World " would hiive some difficulty
in referrinn; to the works on which he bnsed the
Btatement that " it was a tradition in Mexico that
when that form (the cross) should be victorious,
the old Ttjliginn should disappear, and that a
eimtlar tradition attached to it at Aleiandria."
He doubtless made the statement from memorj,
and uniDlentionally confounded two distinct facts,
-viz. that the Mexicans worshipped the cross, and
bad prophetic Intimations of the downfall of their
nation and religion bj the oppression of bearded
Btrangers from the East. The quotation hj Mr.
Peacock at p. S49., quoted also in Purchas' Pil-
grima, vol. v., proves, as do other authorities, that
the cross was worshipped in Mexico prior to the
Spanish invasion, and therefore it was impossible
that the belief mentioned hy The Wbitbs, &c.
could have prevailed.
On the first discovery of Yucatan, —
" Grijaha was astonished at the sight of large crosses,
evidently objects of worship." — Prcscolt's Mtxito,
vol. i. p. 203.
The cross on the Temple of Serapis, mentioned in
Socrates' Ecc. Hut., was undoubtedly the well-
known Crux aiaata, the symbol of life. It was as
the latter tliat the heathens appealed to it, and the
Christians explained it to them as fulfilled in the
Death of Christ.
Mb. Peacock asks for other instances : T subjmn
In India. — The great pagoda at Benares is
btiilt in the form of a cross, (Maurice's Ind,
Ant., vol. iii. p. 31., City, Tavernier.)
On a Buddhist temple of cyelopean structure
at Muadore (Tod's Rajasthan, vol. i. p. 727.), the
cross appears as a sacred figure, together witb
the double triangle, another emblem of very wide
distribution, occurring on ancient British eotni
(Camden's Bn'tonniiw), Central American build-
ings (Norman's Travels in Yucatan), amonj; the
Jews as the Shield of David (Brucker's HUtary
of Philoiophy), and a well-known masonic symbol
frequently introduced into Gothic ecclesiastical
In Palettine. —
" According to R. Solomon Jarchi, the Talmud, and
Maimonides, when the priest sprinkled the blood of
the victim on the consecrated cakes and hallawed
utensils, he was always careful to do it in the form of
a croif. The same symbol was used whrn the kings
and high priests were anointed." — Faber's Horn
Moiaica, vol. ii. p. I8S.
See farther hereon, Dcano on Serpent Worship.
In Persia. — The trefoil on which the sacrifices
were placed was probably held sacred from its
cruciform character. The cross (*) occurs on
Persian buildings among other sacred symbols.
(E. K. Porter's Travels, vol. ii.)
In Britaia. — The cross was formed by baring
a tree to a stump, and inserting another crosswise
on tbe top ; on tbe three arms thus formed were
inscribed the names of the three principal, or
triad of gods, Hesas, BeUuuM, and Tarams. The
stone avenues of the temple at Ciasserniss are
arranged in the form of a cross. (Borlase's An-
tiquities of Cornwall.)
In Scandinavia. — The hammer of Thor was in
the form of the cross ; see in Herbert's Select let'
landic Poetry, p. H., and Laing'aKVng's q/'iVonmiy,
vol. i. pp. 224. 330 , a curious anecdote of King
Haoon, who, having been converted to Christianity,
made the sign of the cross when he drank, but
persuaded his irritated Pagan followers that it was
the sign of Thor's hammer.
The Ggure of Thor's hammer was held in the
utmost reverence by his followers, who were called
the children of Thor, who in the last day would
save themselves by his mighty hammer. The
fiery cross, so welt known by Scott's Tivid de-
scription, was originally the hammer of Thor,
which in early Pagan, as in later Christian times,
was ased as a summons to convene the people
either to council or to war. (Herbert's Stleet Ice-
landic Poetry, p. 11.) Edbh Warwick.
Acq. 6. I6S3.]
NOTES AND QUEBIEa
133
FBOTOGKAPHIC GOKBUPORDBtlCB,
Oloit Chamber* /or Photography. — I am
lirouB to construct n imsll glau chamber
Uking portraits in, and Bhall be much oblige
^ou can BBiiat me hy piving me instractioDi I
It glioiild be conii meted, or dj dirccting[ me wl
I si I all find clear and sufficient directions, bi
dimensions, mnterials, and arrange men la, I:
essential that it should be all of violet-eoloi
5 loss, ground at one side, at that irould add a g
cal to the expense F or vrill nbile glass, witli
blue gauze curtain* or blinds, aniner P
I'robablj a full ansirer to this iiic^uirj, ace
Esnied nitn such woodcut illiutrations as vrt
e necessarj to render the description comp]
and such as an artificer could work byr w
confer a boon on many amateur photographen
veil as your obliged servant, C. E
[In the coQitruction of ■ pljotograjiliic houK
beg lo infurin our corrrtpondent ttiar it is l>]r no m
aenitixX lo u» entirely violet-coloured glau, but
roof tliereof rxpowd lo llie rajs o( (lie sun ahouli
so prolecled ; for alihougli tliu light ii much aubd
and the glare lo painful to llie eja of (tie sill
■aken away, yei hut few of the aclinic rsys ura
■iructed. It hug bren proposed to cost the interior
amalt mixed with itirch, and Bflcrwards varnished ;
thia dues not nppear to hnve aniwered. Calico,
white nnd coloured, has alio been uicd, hut it is
tainl; not so elTectual or pleaaant. Upon the w'
the a
culatio
■ir ; blinds Lo be apptird at $uvh tpota only ai
found rerjuiallr. Adjoining, or in one corner, a ■
closet should be provided, admitting only yellow 1
which nuy be eflecttuilly accompliahed by mear
yellow calico. A freeiupply of water iaindiapens
which may be conveyed both to and fram by mes
the gutta percha tubing now in such geneial uie.
apprehend, however, thai iha old proverb, " Vou i
cut jouc conl according lo jour clolh," is mos'
pGclelly applicalile lo oui qneriat, for not only i
(he houie be oonitructed according to the advani
afforded hy the localily, but the amount of ei[
will lie very dilTercnlly lliouglit of hy diKerent pen
one will be content with any moderate arrangei
which will ansffer the purpose, where anolher wi
aearcely utiaflcd unleis everything la quite of an
character. ]
Dr. DiamotuTi Repliet. — I am sorry I !
not before replied to the Queries of jT^^ur
respondent W.P.E., contained in Vol.viii,, p,
but absence from home, together with a prei
of public duties here, bu prevented me froi
lat. No doubt a tmall portion of tiitrat
potash ii formed when the iodiied collodion ii
mersed in the bath of nitrate of silver, by mutual
decomposition ; but it is in so small a qusnUty h
not to deteriorate the bath.
3nd, I t>clieve collodion will keep good much
longer than is generally supposed ; at the be-
ginning of last month I obtained a tolerably ^ood
portrait of Mr. Pollock from some remains m a
small bottle brought to me by Mr. Archer in
September 18fi0; and I especially notice tbii fact,
as it is connected with the first introduction of the
use of collodion in Ensland. Generally speaking,
I do not find that it deteriorates in two or three
months ; the addition of a few drops of the iodizing
solution will generally restore it, unless it has be-
come rotten : this, I think, is the cate when the
gun cotton has not been perfectly freed from the
acid. The redness which collodion asaumes by
age, may also be discharged by the addition of a
few dropi of liquor ammoniEe, but I do not think
it in any way accelerates its activity of action,
3rd. "Washed ether," or, as it ia sometimes
called, " inhaling ether," has been deprived of the
alcohol which the common ether contains, and it
will not dissolve tlie gun cotton unless the alcohol
is restored to it. I would here observe that an
encesa of alcoliol (spirits of wine) thickens the
collodion, nnd gives it a mucilaginous appearance,
rendering it much more dilhcult to use by its
aWnesa in fiowing over the glass plate, oa well as
producing a lesa even surface than ivhcn nearly all
ether ia used. A collodion, however, with thirty-
five per cent, of spirits of wine, is very quick,
allowing from its leas tenacious quality a more
rapid action of the nitrate of silver bath.
4tb. Cyanide of potassium has been used to re-
dissolve the ioilide of silver, but the results are by
no means so satisfactory ; the cost of pure iodide
of potassium bought at a proper market is certainly
very inconsiderable compared to the disappoint-
ment resulting from a false economy.
irW.DuuoxD.
Surrey County Asylum.
Trial of Lenaet. — When you want to try a
lens, first be sure that tlie slides of your camera
are correctly constructed, wliicb ia easily done.
Place at any distanco you please a sheet of paper
printed In small type; focus thia on your ground
glaas with the OBsistance of a magnifying-glass ;
now take the slide which carries your plate of
glass, and if you have not a piece of ground glasa
at hand, insert a plate which you would otherwise
excite in the bath after the application of collodion,
but now dull it by touching it with putty. Ob-
serve whether you get an equally clear and well-
focuBsed picture on this ; if you do, you may con-
clude there ia no fault in the construction of your
Having ascertained this, take a chess-board, and
place the pieces on the row of squares which rua
IM
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 197.
from corner to corner ; focas the middle one^
whether it be king, queen, or knight, and take a
picture; you will soon see whether the one best in
the visual focus is the best on the picture, or
whether the piece one or more squares in advance
or behind it is clearer than the one you had pre-
liously in focus. The chess-board must be set
square with the camera, so that each piece is
farther oflf by one square. To vary the experi-
ment, you may if you please stick a piece of
printed paper on each piece, which a little gum or
common bees'-wax will effect for you.
In taking portraits, if you are not an adept in
obtaining a focus, cut a slip of newspaper about
four inches long, and one and a half wide, and
turn up one end so as it may be held between the
lips, taking care that the rest be presented quite
flat to the camera ; with the help of a magnifying-
glass set a correct focus to this, and afterwards
draw in the tube carrying the lenses about one-
sixteenth of a turn of the screw of the rackwork.
This will give a medium focus to the head : ob-
serve, as the length of focus in different lenses
varies, the distance the tube is moved must be
Learned by practice. W. M. F.
Is it dangerous to use the Ammonio-Nilrate of
i^ilver f — Some time ago I made a few ounces of
a solution of ammonio -nitrate of silver for printing
positives; this I have kept in a yellow coloured
glass bottle with a ground stopper.
I have, however, been much alarmed, and re-
frained from using it or taking out the stopper,
lest danger should arise, in consequence of reading
in Mr. Deiamotte*s Practice of Photography, p. 95.
(vide " Ammonia Solution ") :
** If any of the ammonio •nitrate dries round the
stopper of the bottle in which it is kept, the least
friction will cause it to explode violently ; it is therefore
better to keep none prepared.*'
As in pouring this solution out and back into
the bottle, of course the solution will dry around
the stopper, and, if this account is correct, may
momentarily lead to danger and accident, I will
ifeel obliged by being informed by some of your
learned correspondents whether any such danger
exists. Hugh H£kd£bson.
Burke's Marriage (Vol. vii., p. 382.). — Burke
married, in 1756, the daughter of Dr. Nugent of
Bath. (See Nat. Cycl, s. v. *' Burke.")
P. J. F. Gantillon, B. A.
The House of FalahiU (Vol.vi., p. 533.). —As
I have not observed any notice taken of the very
interesting Query of Abrbdoniensis, regarding^
s ancient baronial residence, I may state that
I ! is a Falahill,. or Falahall, in the parish of
Heriot, in the county of Edinburgh. Whether it
be the FalahiU referred to by Nisbet as having
been so profusely illuminated with armorial bear-
injjs, I cannot tell. Possibly either Messrs. Laing,
Wilson, or Cosmo Innes might be able to give
some information about this topographical and
historical mystery. Stobnowat.
Descendants of Judas Iscariot ( Vol.viii., p. 56.). —
There is a collection of traditions as to this person
in extracts I have among my notes, which perhaps
you may think fit to give as a reply to Mb.
Creed's Query. It runs as follows :
" On dit dans TAnjou et dans le Maine que Judas
Iscariot est ne a Sable ; la-dessus on a fait ce vers:
* Pcrfidus Judaeus Sabloliensis erat.*
** Les Bretons disent de meme qu*il est ne au Nor-
mandie entre Caen et Rouen, et i ce propos lis reeitoif
ces vers .
* Judas etoit Normand,
Tout le monde le dit —
Entre Caen et Rouen,
Ce maUieureux naquit.
II vendit son Seigneur pour trente marcs contants.
Au diable soient tous les Normands.*
^ On dit de meme sans raison que Judas avoit dn-
meui e a Corfi>u, et qu*ii y est ne. Pietro della Valle
rapporte dans ses Voyages qu'etant a Corfou on lui
montra par rarete un bomme que ceux du pays assu-
roient etre de la race du traitre Judas — quoiqu'U le
nidt. C'est un bruit qui court depuis long terns ea
cette coutr^e, sans qu'on en sache la c»use ni Torigine.
Le peuple de la ville de Ptolemais (autrement de
I'Acre) disoit de meme sans raison que dans une tour de
cette ville on avoit fabriqu^ les trente deniers pour
lesquelles Judas avoit vendu notre Seigneur, et pour
cela ils appelloient cette tour la Tour Maudite.**
This is taken from the second volume of JHfe-
nagiana, p. 232. J. H. P. Lbreschs.
Manchester.
Milton's Widow (Vol. viii., p. 12.).— The in-
formation once promised by your correspondent
Cbanmobe still seems very desirable, because the
statements of your correspondent Mb. Hughbs
are not reconcilable with two letters given in
Mr. Hunter's very interesting historical tract on
Milton, pages 37-8., to which tract I beg to refer
Mb. Hughes, who may not have seen it. These
letters clearly show that Richard Minshull, the
writer of them, had only two aunts^ neither of
whom could have been Mrs. Milton, as she must
have been if she was the daughter of the writer's
grandfather, Randall MinshuU. Probably 1^
Blizabeth died in infancy, which the Wistaston
parish register may show, and which roister
would perhaps also ahow (supposing Milton took
his wife from Wistaston) the wanting marriage ;
or if Mrs. Milton was of the Stoke-MinshuU fa-
mily, that parish register would most likely dis-
Aug. 6. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
13S
dose hiff third marriage, wbich eertainlj did not
take place sooner than 1662. Gabuchithb.
Whitaker's Ingenious Earl (VpL viiL, p. 9.)« —
It was a frequent saying of Lord Stanhope's, that
he had tanght law to the Lord Chancellor, and
divinity to the Bishops ; and this saying gave rise
, to a carieature, where his lordship is seated acting
the schoolmaster with a rod in his hand. £. H.
Are White Cats deaff (Vol. vii., p.331.).—
In looking up your Numbers for April, I observe
a Minor Query signed Shiblet Hibbebd, in
which your querist states that in all white cats
stupidity seemed to accompany the deafness, and
inquires whether any instance can be given of a
white cat possessing the function of hearing in
anything like perfection.
I am myself possessed of a white cat which, at
the advanced age of upwards of seventeen years,
still retains its hearing to great perfection, and is
remarkably intelligent and devoted, more so than
cats are usually given credit.for. Its affection for
persons is, indeed, more like that of a dog than of
a cat. It is a half-bred Persian cat, and its eyes
are perfectly blue, with round pupils, not elon-
gated as those of cats usually are. It occasionally
suffers from irritation in the ears, but this has
not at all resulted in deafness. H.
Consecrated Roses (Vol. vii., pp. 407. 480. ;
Vol. viii., p. 38.). — From the communication of
P. P. P. it seems that the origin of the consecration
of the rose dates so far back as 1049, and was " en
reconnaissance " of a singular privilege granted to
the abbey of St. Croix. Can your correspondent
refer to any account of the origin of the conse-
cration or blessing of the sword, cap, or keys ?
G.
The Reformed Faith (Vol. vii., p. 359.). — I
must protest against this term being applied to
the system which Henry VIII. set up on his re-
jecting the papal supremacy, which on almost
every point but that one was pure Popery, and
for refusing to conform to which he burned Pro-
testants and Roman Catholics at the same pile.
It suited Cobbett (in his History of the Reform-
ation), and those controversialists who use him
as their text-book, to confound this system with
the doctrine of the existing Church of England,
but it is to be regretted that any inadvertence
should have caused the use of similar lanofuage in
your pages. J. S. Wabden.
House-marhs (Vol. vii., p. 594.). — It appears
to me that the house-marks he alluded to may be
traced in what are called merchants' marks, still
employed in marking bales of wool, cotton, Sec, and
which are found on tombstones in our old churches,
incised in the slab durincr the sixteenth and seven-
teenth centuries, and which tilt hLtely puzzled the
heralds. They were borne by merchants who had
no arms. £. G. Batj.atmk
Trash (Vol. vii., p. 566.). — The late Mr.
Scatchard, of Morley, near Leeds, speaking in
Hone*s Table Book of the Yorkshire custom of
trashing, or throwing an old shoe for luck over a
wedding party, says .-
'< Although it is true that an old shoe is to this day
called * a trash/ yet it did not, certainly, give the name
to the nuisance. To * trash * originally signified to
clog, encumber, or impede the progress of any one
(see Todd's Johnson) ; and, agreeably to this explana-
tion, we find the rope tied by sportsmen round the
necks of fleet pointers to tire them well, and dieck
their speed, is hereabouts universally called *■ trash
cord,* or *dog trash.* A few miles distant from
Morley, west of Leeds, the • Boggart * or * Barguest,*
the Yorkshire Brownie is called by the people the
Gui-trathy or Ghei-irash, the usual description of which
is inimriably that of a shaggy dog or other animal, en-
cumbered with a chain round its neck, which is heard
to rattle in its movements. I have heard the common
people in Yorkshire say, that they * have been trashing
about all day ; * using it in the sense of having had a
tiring walk or day*s work.
" East of Leeds the * Boggart * is called the Pad^
foot."*
Adamsoniana (Vol. vii., p. 500.). — Michel
AdaTzson (not Adamson), who has left his name to
the gigantic Baobab tree of Senegal {Adansoma
digitata), and his memory to all who appreciate
the advantages of a natural classification of plants
— for which Jussieu was indebted to him — was
the son of a gentleman, who after firmly attaching
himself to the Stuarts, left Scotland and entered
the service of the Archbishop of Aix. The En-
cyclopcedia Britannica, and, I imagine, almost all
biographical dictionaries and similar works, con-
tain notices of him. His devoted life has deserved
a more lengthened chronicle. Seleucus.
Your correspondent E. H. A., who inquires re-
specting the family of Michel Adamson, or Michael
Adamson, is informed that in France, the country
of his birth, the name is invariably written "Adan-
son ;" while the author of Fanny of Caernarvon, or
the War of the Roses, is described as "John Adam-
son." Both names are pronounced alike in French;
but the difierence of spelling would seem adverse
to the supposition that the family of the botanist
was of Scottish extraction. Henry H. Bbeen.
St. Lucia.
Portrait of Cromwell (Vol. viii., p. 55.). — The
portrait inquired after by Mb. Rix is at the
jDritish Museum. Being placed over the cases in
the long gallery of natural history, it is extremely
di^ult to be seen. JoBir Bbvcb;
136
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 197.
Burke's ''Mighty Boar of the Forest'' (Vol. iii.,
p. 493. ; Vol. iv., p. 391.)' — It is not, I hope, too
late to notice that !Burke*s description of Junius is
an allusion neither to the Iliadj xiii. 471., nor to
Psalm Ixxx. 8-13., but to the Iliad, xvii. 280-284.
I cannot resist quoting the lines containing the
simile, at once for their applicability and their
own innate beauty :
Kawplipj ooT* iu 6ptaai Kxivas doK^pois r* difyohs
*Prittites ^Kc'Sfluro'cv, i\i^<^fyos 8td fi^ffffos,
Us vihs TcAoftwvos.*'
W. Fraseb.
Tor-Mohun.
" Amentium hand Amaniium" (Vol. vii., p. 595.).
— The following English translation may be con-
sidered a tolerably close approximation to the
alliteration of the original : '' Of dotards not of the
doting." It is found in the Dublin edition of
Terence, published by J. A. Phillips, 1845.
C. T. R.
Mr. Phillips, in his edition, proposes as a trans-
lation of this passage, " Of dotards, not of the
doting:' Whatever may be its merits in other
respects, it is at all events a more perfect alliter-
ation than the other attempts which have been
recorded in " N. & Q." Erica..
Warwick.
When I was at school I used to translate the
phrase '' Amentium baud amantium ** (Ter. Andr,,
1. 3. 13.) ''Lunatics, not lovers," Perhaps that may
satisfy Fidus Imterpres. n. B.
A friend of mine once rendered this " Lubbers,
not lovers." P. J. F. Gantillon, B. A.
Talleyrand's Maxim (Vol. vi., p. 575. ; Vol. vii.,
p. 487.). — Young^s lines, to which Z. E. B. refers,
are:
** Where Nature's end of language is declined.
And men talk only to conceal their mind."
With less piquancy, but not without the germ of
the same idea. Dean Moss (ob. 1729), in his ser-
mon Of the Nature and Properties of Christian
Humility, says :
" Gesture is an artificial thing : men may stoop and
cringe, and bow popularly low, and yet have ambitious
designs in their heads. And speech is not always the
just interpreter of the mind : men may use a condescend-
ing style, and yet swell inwardly with big thoughts of
themselves." — Sermons, ^c, 1737, vol. vii. p. 402.
COWGILL.
English Bishops deprived by Queen Elizabeth
(Vol. vii., pp. 260. 344. 509.).— The following par-
ticulars concerning one of the Marian Bishops are
at A. S. A.*s service. Cuthbert Scot, D.D., some-
time student, and, in 1553, Master of Christ*s
Church College, Cambridge, was made Vice-Chan-
ccUor of that University in 1554-5 ; and had the
temporalities of the See of Chester handed to him
by Queen Mary in 1556. He was one of Cardinal
Pole*s delegates to the University of Cambridge,
and was concerned in most of the political move-
ments of the day. He, and four other bishops,
with as many divines, undertook to defend tbe
principles and practices of the Bomish Church
against an equal number of Beformed divines. On
the 4th of April he was confined, either in the
Fleet Prison or the Tower, for abusive language
towards Queen Elizabeth ; but having by some
means or other escaped from durance, he retired
to Louvain, where he died, according to Bymer*s
F(zdera, about 1560. T. Hughes.
Chester.
Gloves at Fairs (Vol. vii., passim,). — To the list
of markets at which a glove was, or is, hung out,
may be added Kewport, in the Isle of Wight
But a Query naturally springs out of such a note,
and I would ask. Why did a glove indicate that
parties frequenting the market were exempt from
arrest ? What was the glove an emblem of?
W. D— N.
As the following extract from Gorr*s Liverpool
Directory appears to bear upon the point, and as
it does not seem to have yet attracted the atten-
tion of any of your correspondents, I beg to for-
ward it : —
** Its (t. e. LiverpooVs) fair-days are 25th July and
11th Not. Ten days before and ten days after each
fair-day, a hand is exhibited in front of the Town-hall,
which denotes protection; during which time no person
coming to or going from the town on business con-
nected with the fiiir can be arrested for debt within its
liberty."
I have myself frequently observed the " hand,**
although I could not discover any appearance of a
fair bemg held. B.
St. Dominic (Vol. vii., p. 356.). — Your cor-
respondent BooKWOBM will find in any chronology
a very satisfactory reason why Machiavelli could
not reply to the summons of Benedict XIV.,
unless, indeed, the Pope had made use of " the
power of the keys,** to call him up for a brief
space to satisfy his curiosity. J. S. Warden.
Names of Plants (Vol.viii., p. 37.).— Ale-hoof
means useful in, or to, ale; Ground-ivy having
been used in brewing before the introduction of
hops. " The women of our northern parts" (says
John Gerard), " especially about Wales or Cheshire,
do tunne the herbe Ale-hoof into their ale ... •
being tunned up in ale and drunke, it also purgeth
the head from rhumaticke humours flowing from
the brain.** From the aforesaid tunning, it was
also called Tun-hoof (eWorld of Words) ; and in
Gerard, Tune- hoof.
Aug. 6. 1853.]
NOTES AND QXJERIES.
137
Considering what was meant by Ladj in the
names of plants, we should refrain from supposing
that Neottia spiralis was called the Ladj-traces
*' sensu obsc.," even if those who are more skilled
in such matters than I am can detect such a
sense. I cannot learn what a ladj*s traces are ;
but I suspect plaitings of her hair to be meant.
*' Upon the spiral sort,'* says Gerard, " are placed
certaine small white flowers, trace fashion," while
other sorts grow, he says, " spike fashion," or " not
trace fashion." Whence I infer, that in his da
trace conveyed the idea of spiral.
Specimens of Foreign English (Vol. iii. passim,),
— I have copied the foUowmg from the label on a
bottle of liqueur^ manufactured at Marseilles by
" L. Noilly fils et C'«." The English will be best
understood by being placed in juxtaposition with
the original French :
•* Le Vermouth
est un Yin blanc l^Srement amer, parfum^ avec des
plantes aromatiques bienfaisantes.
** Cette boisson est tonique, stimulante, febrifuge et
astringente; prise avec de Teau elle est aperitive et
raffraichissante : elle est aussl un puissant pr^servatif
contre les fi^vres et la dyssenterie, maladies si frequentes
dans les pays cbauds, pour lesquels elle a et^ particu-
lierement compos^e."
** The Wermouth
is a brightly bitter and perfumed with aromatical and
good vegetables white wine.
** This is tonic, stimulant, febrifuge and costive
drinking ; mixed with water it is aperitive, refreshing,
and also a powerful preservative of fivers and bloody-
flux ; those latters are very usual in warmth countries,
and of course that liquor has just been particularly
made up for that occasion.**
Henbt H. Breen.
St. Lucia.
Blanco White (Vol. vij., pp. 404. 486.).— Your
correspondent H. C. K. is right in his impression
that the sonnet commencing
*' Mysterious Night ! when our first parents knew,** &c.
was written by Blanco White. See his Life
(3 vols., Chapman, 1845), vol. iii. p. 48.
J. K. R. W.
Pistols (Vol. viii., p. 7.). — In Strype's Life of
Sir Thomas Smith, Worhs^ Ox on. 1821, mention
is made of a statute or proclamation by the Queen
in the year 1575, which refers to that of 33
Hen. VIIL c. 6., alluded to by your correspondent
J. F. M., and in which the words pistol and pistolet
are introduced :
** The Queen calling to mind how unseemly a thing
it was, in so quiet and peaceable a realm, to have men
KO armed ; . . . did charge and command all her sub-
jects, of what estate or degree soever they were, that
in no wise, in their journeying, going, or riding, they
carried about them privily or openly any dag, or pistol,
or any other harquebuse, gun, or such weapon for fire,
under the length expressed by the statute made by the
Queen*s most noble father. . . . [Excepting however]
noblemen and such known gentlemen, which were
without spot or doubt of evil behaviour, if they carried
dags or pistolets about them in their journeys, openly,
at their saddle bows,** &c.
Here the dag or pistolet seems to answer to our
" revolvers," and the pistol to our larger horse-
pistol. H. C. K.
Rectory, Hereford.
Passage of Thxtcydides on the Greek Factions
(Vol. viii., p. 44.). — If L., or any of your readers,
will take the trouble to compare the passage
quoted, and the one referred to by him, in the
following translation of Smith, with Sir A. Alison's
supposititious quotation* (Vol. vii., p. 594.), they
will find that my inquiry is still unanswered.
The passage quoted by L. in Greek is, according
to Smith :
'< Prudent consideration, to be specious cowardice ;
modesty, the disguise of effeminacy ; and being wise in
everything, to be good for nothing.**
The passage not quoted, but referred to by L., is :
** He who succeeded in a roguish scheme was wise ;
and he who suspected such practices in others was
still a more able genius.** — Vol. i. book iii. p. 281.
4to. : London, 1753.
In this " counterfeit presentment of two bro-
thers, L. may discern a family likeness ; but my
inquiry was mr the identical passage, " sword and
poniard" included.
If L. desires to find Greek authority for the
general sentiment only, I would refer him to pas-
sages, equally to Sir A. Alison*s purpose, in
Thucydiaes^ iii. 83., viii. 89.; Herodotus^ iii. 81.;
Plato*s Republic^ viii. 11. ; and Aristotle*s Politics,
V. 6. 9. I beg to thank L. for his attempt, although
unsuccessfuL T. J. Bdckton.
Birmingham.
The earliest Mention of the Word ^^ Party**
(Vol. vii., p. 247.). — In a choice volume, printed
by "Ihon Day, dwelling over Aldersgate, be-
neath St. Martmes," 1568, 1 find the word occur-
ring thus :
" The paiiy must in any place see to himselfe, and
seeke to wipe theyr noses by a shorte aunswere.** — A
Discovery and playne Declaration of the Holy Inquisition
of Spayne, fol. 10.
Permit me to attach a Query to this. Am I
right in considering the above-mentioned book as
rare? I do so on the assumption that "Ihon
Day " is the Day of black-letter rarity.
R. C. Waede.
Kidderminster.
* Europe, vol.ix. p. 397., 12mo.
138
NOTES AND <iUERIE&
INo. 197.
Creole (Vol. vii., p 381.). — It U curious to
obserre how differently thia word is applied by
difTerent naUoiu. The English apply it to whi^
children born in the West Indies ; the French, I
believe, exclusively to the miKed racea ; and ^e
Spanish and Portuguese to die blacks born in
their coloniefl, never to whitet. The Utter, I
think, is the true and original meaning, as its
primary signification is a home-bred slave (front
" criar," to bring up, to nurse), as distinguished
from an imported or purchased one.
J. S. Warden.
mUaXUntom.
pen. A euiiaui litUe pamphlet on a /act in Nat>al
PhiloHphy, whidi we belie** no pbilouvhec oac eidHr
undentaad or iceouul for.
Siuiu Recuvid. — STKrTOf'i Bailuay JUading:
HUlory at a Comdltion of Social Pragrea, by Santaet
Lucas. An able lecture on an interesting subject —
TV TianttiT'i Library, No. 4€. ; Tmtntf Ytttrt i* Oc
PUIippi^ei, by De la Gironi^re. One of the bnt
numbers of this valuable tcriei. — Cj/tl/fmlia BSeo-
graphica. Part XI., Auguat. This eleventh Fart rf
Mr. Darling's useful Catalogue extendi froiii jamct
IbbetMn 10 Bemaid lja.my.—Archaobigla Camirvm.
JVa« Sn-iti, No. XF. : Offlilaining, among oltier papoi
of interest to the Inbabitants of Ihe principality, one on
tbe arms of Oo-en Glendwr, by the acoompli^wd in-
liquary to vhom our readers were indebted for a pa}ici
on the same subject in our owa oolurous.
We have before us a little volume by Mr. Willich,
the able Actuary of the University Life Auuranee So-
ciety, eniitled Pipu/xr TabUi anwtgtd in a hcio Form,
giving Iriformation at S'tfhtfor atctrtaining, according fo
tht Carlide Tabh if MorlaliU/, the Palut nf Lifihold,
Liatehatd, and Church Property, Satewai Finn, ^c,
lie Putlic Fundi. Jnmial Amrage Price and Intirr^ an
Conioltfrow 1731 to 1851 , alio tmioui iiterating and
aieful fablei, tquaUg adapted to tie Office and the Li-
brary Tablt. Ample as is this title-page, it really gives
but an impeifeet notiim of the varied contents of this
useful library and wiiting-desk companion. For in-
stance, Table Vni. of the Miscellaiieoos Tables gives
the average price of Consols, with the average rate of
interest, Irom 1731 to 1851 1 but this not only shows
when Consols were highest and when lowest, but aUo
wbst Administration was then in power, and the cbief
events of each year. We give this as one instance of
the vast amount of curious inibrmation here combined ;
students the notices of Chinese Chronology in tbe pre-
Gice, and the Tables of Ancient and Modern Itinerary
Measures, as parts of the wort espeeisily deserving of
their attention. In ihort, Mr. Witlicb's Popular Tabia
form one of those useful valumes, in which mnsses of
scattered information are concentrated in such a way as
to render the book indispensable to all who have once
MorTnimiim, itt Hiitory, Dodrina, and Pracliea, by
tbe Rev. W. Sparrow Sitnpsou, is a small pamphlet
containing thesuhstanoe of two lectures on this pestilent
heresy, delivered by the author before tbe Kennington
Branch of the Church of England Young Men's So-
ciety, and is worth the attention of these who wii,h to
know something of this now vide-spread mania.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
ISnio. WitHI^rtr
iLSn. Rid. Bditpd b; Lcydeb. ISM.
■. of JohoioD Kid Steeveij.'i edlUto,
.till of Sookt Wanted art rtfmatid
in anil Icweir prtco, earriare An,
■„ PubUiher of " NOTBiT AND
fiatUei to CarrcifpiiHtieiitil,
•unig of %Bi. Hi., pp. Sti'.tK.
On Ihe CuUom of Borough- Eagb'ii i.
Suites, by George R. Corner, Esq. ims well-eon- t. „jo«,
sidered paper oti a very curious custom owes its origin. CoUodAi* are
we believe, to a Query in oin" columns. We wish hII canaaiailcuii
questions agitated In " N. & Q." were as well illua- n,*n°I"i^'Afi
trated as this has been by the learning and ingenuity Camicorim.'
of Mr. Comer. Afi-rc<,^
A Narnaive of Practical Exptrimentt proving to De- price Tkreir ■
manitration the I>iKWery of Water, Coali, and Mineral, ""'* '^^'"
in tie Earth by miani of the Bowing Fori or Divimng .J-'^X'f
Sod, j-c, calltcled, reported, and edited by Francis Fhip- ^it^ih
ho inqviret rerpectimg the Ut
tjrom Da. DimaKi
-Vol. vtll,.p.l(M..
nioni, '■ D'ltraeli'i
Id M in Uc BnA
Aero. 6. 1853.]
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NOTES AND QUERIES:
A MEDIUM OF INTER-COMMUNICATION
LITERARY MEN, ARTISTS, ANTIQUARIES, GENEALOGISTS, ETC.
** "WlieB fOQBdf make a note of." — Caftain Cuttlx.
No. 198.]
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KoTii:—
CONTENTS.
Bacon*t Eitayi, by Markby
Ttie Isthmus of Panama -
Page
. 141
. H4
Folk Lore : ~ Legends of the County Clare — Moon
Superstitlons—'Warwiclishire Folk Lore— Nurthamp-
tonshire Folk Lore — Slow-worm Superstition — A
Devonshire Charm for the Thrush - - - 145
Old Jokes . . . . . . -146
An Interpolation of the Players : Tobacco, by W. Robson 147
Minor Notbi : — Curious Epitaph — Enigmatical Epi-
taph — Books worthy to be reprinted — Napoleon's
Thunderstorm-- Istamboul: Constantinople - - 147
Queries : — .
Striit-stowers, and Yeathers or Yadders, by C. H.
Cooper ....... 148
Minor Qcbribs : — Archbishop Parker's Correspon.
dence— .Amor Nurami — The Number Nine — Position
of Font — Aix Ruochim or Romans loner— ** Lessons
for Lent/' &c. — ** La Branche des reaus Lignaget "—
Marriage Service — " Caar " or " Tsar " — Little
Silver — On Asop's (?) Fable of washing the Blacka.
moor — Wedding Proverb — German Phrase — Ger>
man Heraldry — Leman Family — A Cob-wall— Inscrip-
tion near Chalcedon — Domesday Book — Dotinchem
— "Mirrour to all," /^c — Title wanted — Portrait
of Cliarles I. : Countess Du Barry . . .149
Minor Quvribs with Answers: — "Preparation
Martyrdom " — Reference wanted — Speaker of
House of Commons in 1697 ...
Replies : —
Inscriptions In Books ....
The Drummer's Letter, by Henry H. Breea
Old Foaies ......
Descendants of John of Gaunt, by William Hardy
for
the
. 152
- 153
. 153
- 154
- 155
Photographic Corresfondrncb : — Lining of Cameras
— Cyanuret of Potassium — Minuteness of Detail on
Paper — Stereoscopic Angles — Sisson's developing
Solution — Multiplying Photographs — Is it dangerous
to use the Ammonio-nitrate of Silver ? . - 157
Replies to Minor Queries : — Burke's Marriage —
Stars and Flowers — Odour from the Rainbow —
Judges stvled Reverend — Jacob Bobart — " Putting
your foot into it " — Simile of the Soul and the Mag-
netic Needle — The Tragedy of Polldus — Robert
Fail lie — " Mater ait natseJ;' &c Sir Juhn Vanbrugh
— F6t« des Chaudrons — Murder of Monaldeschi —
Land of Green Ginger— Unneatb — Snail Gardens —
Parvise— Humbug — Table-movins — Scotch News-
papers^ Door- head Inscriptions — Honorary Degrees
— " Never ending, still beginning " -
Miscellaneous : —
Books and Odd Volumes wanted
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisemeuti . .
. 158
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Vol. vm;— No. 198.
BACON*S ESSAYS, BT MABKBT.
Mr. Markby has recently published his promised
edition of Bacon*s Essays ; and he has in this, as
in his edition of the Advancement of Learnings
successfully traced most of the passages alluded to
by Lord Bacon. The following notes relate to a
few points which still deserve attention :
Essay I. On Truth:— "The poet that beauti-
fied the sect that was otherwise inferior to the
rest.'*] By '* beautified" is here meant " set ofi* to
advantage," ** embellished."
Essay II. On Death. —
Many of the thoughts in the Essays recur in
the " Exempla Antithetorum," in the 6th book
De Augmentis Scientiarum, With respect fo this
Essay, compare the article "Vita," No. 12., in
vol. viii. p. 360. ed. Montagu.
" You shall read in some of the friars* books
of mortification, that a man should think with
himself what the pain is, if he have but his finger's
end pressed or tortured, and thereby imagine what
the pains of death are when the whole body is cor-
rupted and dissolved."] Query, What books are
here alluded to ?
" Pompa mortis magis terret, quam mors ipsa."]
Mr. Markby thinks these words are an allusion
to Sen. Ep. xxiv. § 13. Something similar also
occurs in Ep. xiv. § 3. Compare Ovid, Heroid,
X. 82. : " Morsque minus poenas quam mora mor-
tis habet."
" Galba, with a sentence, * Feri si ex re sit populi
Romani.* "] In addition to the passage of Tacitus,
quoted bj Mr. Markby, see Sueton. Galh. c. 20.
" Septimus Severus in despatch, ' Adeste si quid
mihi restat agendum.' "] No such dying words are
attributed to Severus, either in Dio Cassius,
Ixxvi. 15., the passage cited by Mr. Markby, or
in Spartian. Sever, c. 23.
In the passage of Juvenal, the words are, " qui
spatium vitae," and not " qui finem vitse," as quoted
by Lord Bacon. Length of life is meant.
Essay III. Of Unity in Religion. —
" Certain Laodiceans and liikewarm persons."]
The allusion is to Rev. iii. 14 — 16.
144
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 198.
person alluded to. The saying is repeated in
Apophthegms^ No. 14. p. 414.
** xhe Spartans and Spaniards have been noted
to be of small despatch : ' Mi venga la muerte de
Spagna, — Let my death come from Spain, for
then it will be sure to be long in coming. "] The
slow and dilatory character of the Lacedaemonians
is noted in Thucyd. i. 70. : ** KaX /uV xal ioKvoi irphs
^fxas utWrirds'* And again, i. 84. : ^^Kai rh fipaSh
Kol /AcXAov, h fi4fupovr(u /MUicrra iiyuS»v,^ Livy repre-
sents the Rhodians making a similar remark to
the Roman senate in 167 B.C.: ** Atheniensium
populum fama est celerem et supra vires audacem
esse ad conandum : Laccdaemoniorum cunctato-
rem, et vix in ea, (^uibus fidit, ingredientem,*'
xlv. 23. Bayle, in his Pensies sur les Cometes^
§ 243., has a passage which illustrates the slowness
of the Spaniards : — "D'un c6t6 on prevoyoit, que
Tempereur et le roi d*£spogne se serviroient de
tr^s grandes forces, pour opprimer la chr6tient^ :
xnais on prevoyoit aussi de Tautre, quMls ne seroient
jamais en ^tat de Taccabler, parceque la lenteur
et les longues ddlib^rations qui ont toujours fait
leur partage, font perdre trop de bonnes occasions.
Vous savez la pens6e de Malherbe sur ce sujet :
S*il est vrai, dit-il dans quelqu*une de ses lettres,
que TEspagne aspire h. la monarchie universelle,
je lui conseille de demander k Dieu une surs^ance
de la fin du monde.**
Essay XXVI. Of seemingwise. —
" Magno conatu nugas."] Trom Terence, Heaut
iii. 5. 8. : ** Ne ista, hercle, magno jam conatu mag-
nas nugos dixerit.'*
Essajr XXVII. Of Friendship.—
^^Epimenides the Candian."] Bacon calls the
ancient Cretan priest Epimenides a **Candian,**
as Machiavel speaks of tlie capture of Rome by
the " Francesi under Brennus. Mr. Pasbley, in
his Travels in Crete^ vol. i. p. 189., shows that
Candia is a name unknown in the island; and
that among the natives its ancient denomination
is still in use. The name Candia has been pro-
pagated over Europe from the Italian usage.
" The Latin adage meeteth with it a little :
* Magna civitas, magna solitudo.*"] See Erasm.
Ada^.y p. 1293. It is taken from a verse of a Greek
comic poet, which referred to the city of Megalo-
polis in Arcadia : " *Eprifxia fxtydw* ffrlp t} MrydKrj
Waij." — Strab. viii. 8. § 1.
** The Roman name attaineth the true use and
cause thereof, naming them * participes curarum.* *']
To what examples of this expression does Bacon
refer P
" The parable of Pythagoras is dark, but true :
• Cor ne edito.* "] Concerning this Pythagorean
precept, see Diog., Laert. viii. 17, 18., cum not.
The saying of Themistocles is repeated in Apo»
phthegmsy No. 199. p. 392.
The saying of tieraclitus is repeated, ApO'
phthegmSf No. 268. ; De Sap. Vet^ vol. xi. p. 846.
It IS alluded to in Nov. Org.^ ii. 32. : " Quicquid
eniin abducit intellectum a consuetis, sequat et
complanat aream ejus, ad recipiendum lumen sic--
cum etpurum notionum verarum.**
** It was a sparing speech of the ancients, to say
that a friend is another himself.**] See Aristot.^
Mag. Mor. ii. 11.: **M/a ^ati^ ^v^^ i/ ifA^i kcU i
roiW-ov;** and again, c. 15.: **ToioDror olos ?r<pos
tlyeu iyiff 6,v 7< Kal aipdBpa ^ihov iroi'ti<rpSy &<nrfp rh
\ry6yLWov * IkKKoi oVroi 'HpoKXris^ * &?^os ^l\os iy^^ **
Eth. Eud. vii. 12. : ** 'o y^p ^ihos fio6\tTat ^tim^
&ffirtp tf mipoifita ^o'lv, Ah\os 'HpoicX^f, &AXof o^f .**
lite
(To be continued.)
THB ISTHMUS OF PAITAMA.
The interest which the execution of the railroad
across the Isthmus of Panama excites, induces me
to transmit you the following extract from Grafi^e*8
New Survey of the West Indies^ 8vo., London, 1699.
A few lines relative to the author, of whom but
little is known, may be also of use. He was the
son of John Gage, of Haling ; and his brother was
Sir Henry Gage, governor of Oxford, killed at the
battle at Culham Bridge, Jan. 11, 1644. Hi»
family were of the Roman Catholic faith; and he
was sent by his father in 1612 into Spain, to study
under the Jesuits, in the hope he would join that
society ; but his aversion to them led him to enter
the Dominican Order at Valladolid, in 1612. His
motives were suspected; his father was irritated-
threatened to disinherit him and to arouse against
him the power of the Jesuits of England if he re»
turned home. He now determined to pass over to
the Spanish possessions in South America; but as an
order had been issued by the king, forbidding this
to any Englishman^ it was onlv by inclosing him
in an empty sea-biscuit case, he was able to sail
from Cadiz, July 2, 1625. He arrived at Mexico
on October 8 ; and after residing there for some
time to recruit himself from the voyage, resolved
to abandon a missionary scheme to the Philippine
islands he had planned, and occordinglj', on the
day fixed for their departure to Acapulco, escaped
with three other Dominicans for Chispat. ne
was here well received, and went subsequently to
the head establishment at Guatimala. He was
soon appointed curate of Amatitlan ; and during
his residence at this and another district contrived
to amoss a sum of 9000 piastres, with the aid of
which he sought to accomplish his long-cherished
desire of returning to England. Many difficulties
were in his way ; but on the 7th January, 1637,
he quitted Amatitlan, traversed the province of
Nicaragua, and embarked from the coast of Costa
Rica. The ship was soon after boarded by a
Dutch corsair, and Gage was robbed of 8000
piastres. He succeeded in reaching Panama^
traversed the Isthmus, and sailed from rorto Bella
Aug. 13. 1853.]
BOTES AND QUERIE&
143
** Keither give thou ^sop*s cock a gem," &c.]
Compare Apophthegms^ No. 203. p. 3d3.
" Such men in other men*s calamities are, as it
were, in season, and are ever on the limdiag part^'\
By " the loading party" seems to be meant the part
which is most heavily laden ; the part which sup-
ports the chief burthen.
" Misanthropi, that make it their practice to
bring men to the bougb, and yet have never a tree
for the purpose in their gardens as Timon had."]
Query, What is the allusion in this passage?
Nothing of the sort occurs in Lucian^s dialogue of
Timon.
Essay XIV. OfNobility.— See-4wft7Aeto,No. 1.
vol. viii. p. 354.
Essay XV. Of Seditions and Troubles. —
" As Macbiavel noteth well, when princes, that
ought to be common parents, make themselves as
a party," &c.] Perhaps Lord Bacon alludes to
Disc, iiL 27.
'^ As Tacitus expresseth it well, ' Liberius quam
ut imperantium raeminissent.* "3 Mr. Markby is
at a loss to trace this quotation. I am unable to
assist him.
The verses of Lucan are quoted from memory.
The original has, '* Avidumque in tempora," and
"** Et concussa fides."
*' Dolendi modus, timendi non item."] Query,
Whence are these words taken ?
" Solvam cingula regum."] Mr. Markby refers
to Job x^i. 18. ; but the passage alluded to seems
to be Isaiah xlv. 1.
The story of Epimetheus is differently applied
in Sap, Vet, vol. x. p. 342.
The saying of Caettar on Sylla is inserted in the
Apophthegms^ Na 135. p. 379. That of Galba is
likewise to be found in Suet. Galb, 16.
Essay XVI. Of Atheism.-— See AntUheta^ No. 13.
vol. viii. p. 360.
*^ Who to him is instead of a god, or melior
natura."] From Ovid, Met. 1. 21. : " Hanc deus
€t melior litem natura diremit."
Essay XVII. Of Superstition. — See Antitheta^
No. 13. vol. viii. p. 360.
Essa^ XIX. Of Empire. — See Antitheta^ No. 8.
vol. viii. p. 358.
" And the like was done by that league, which
Guicciardini saith was the secuiily of Italy," &c.3
The league alluded to, is that of 1485. See Guic-
ciardini, lib. i. c. 1.
"Neither is the opinion of some of the school-
men to be received, that a war cannot justly be
made but upon a precedent injury or provocaticm."]
Grotius lays down the same doctrine as Bacon,
De J. B. et P., ii. 1. §§ 2, 3, Query, What school-
men are here referred to ?
Essaj XX. Of Counsd.— See AntUhetm, No. 44.
vol. viit. p. d77.
Jupiter and Metis.] See Sap, Vet^ vol. xi.
p. 354.
"For which inconveniences, the doctrine of
Italy» and practice of France, in some king^^ times,
hath introduced cabinet councils : a remedy worse
than the disease."] By " cabinet councils " are here
meant private meetings of selected advisers in the
king's own apartment.
"Frincipis est virtus maxima nosse suos.**]
From Martial, viii. 15.
" It was truly said, ^Optkni consiUarii mortuV **]
Compare Apophthegms^ No. 105.: "Alonzo cJ
Arragon was wont to say of himself, that he was a
great necromancer ; for that he used to ask counsel
of the dead, meaning books."
Essajr XXI. Of Delays.— See AntUheta, No. 41.
vol. viii. pb^ 376.
" Occasion (as it is in the commcm verse) turnetii
a bald noddle," &c.] See " N. & Q.," Vc^. iii.,
pp. 8. 43., where this saying is illustrated.
Essay XXII. Of Cunning. —
" The old rule, to know a fool from a wise man :
*Mitte ambos nudos ad ignotos, et videbis.'"]
Attributed to " one of the philosophers " in Apa-^
phtkfgmsy No. 255. p. 404.
'* 1 knew a counsellor and secretary that never
came to Queen Elizabeth of England with bills to
sign, but he would always first put her into some
discourse of estate, that she might the less mind
the bills."] King*s or queen^s bills is a technical
expression for a class of documents requiring the
royal signature, which is still, or was recently, itt
use. See Murray's Official Handbook^ by Jdr.
Redgrave, p. 257. Query, To which of Queen
Elizabeth's Secretaries of State does Bacon allude ?
And again, who are meant by the " two who were
competitors for the Secretary's place in Queen
£lizabeth*8 time," mentioned lower down ?
Essay XXin. Of Wisdom for a Man's Self.— •
•* It is the wisdom of rats, that will be sure to
leave a house somewhat before it fall."] Query,
How and when did this popular notion (now en-
grafted upon our political language) originate ?
" It is the wisdom of crocoailes, that shed tears
when they would devour."] This saying seems to
be derived from the belief^ that the crocodile
imitates the cry of children in order to attract
their mothers, and then to devour them. See
Siilgues, Des Erreurs et des Prejttges, torn. ii.
p. 406.
Essay XXIV. Of Innovations.— See Antitheta^
No. 40, vol. viii. p. 375.
Essay XXV. Of Despatch. •— See Antitheta,
No. 27. vol. viii. p. 368.
" I knew a wise man, that had it for a by- word,
when he saw men hasten to a conclasioDy ' Stay a
little, that we may make an end the sooner.'"]
Mr. Markby says that Sir Amias Faukt is the
144 NOTES AND QUERIES. [No. 19&
person alluded to. The saying is repeated in It is alluded to in Nov, Org., ii. 32. : " Quicquid
Apophthegms, No. 14. p. 414. eniin abducit intellectum a consuetis, sequat et
** The Spartans and Spaniards have been noted complanat aream ejus, ad recipiendum lumen sic-
to be of small despatch : * Mi venga la muerte de cum etpurum notion um verarum."
Spagna, — Let my death come from Spain, for "It was a sparing speech of the ancients, to say
then it will be sure to be long in coming.' "] The that a friend is another himself."] See Aristot,
slow and dilatory character of the Lacedaemonians Mag. Mor. ii. 11.: "M/a ^>afily tf^vx^ rj ifi^ kcSl ft
is noted in Thucyd. i. 70. : ^"^ KaX ii)\v koX ikOKvoi rtphs toiJtow;" and again, c. 15.: "ToioOros oios Zrtpot
IfjMs fitWrirds" And again, i. 84. : " Kol rh fipaSh €tyeu iyia, &v yt koI a<p6^pa ^l\w rcovti<r(fi, &CT9p tJ
Kol ficXXov, ft fjL^fupovrou fxdKuTTa tjixwy" Livy repre- \€y6fi€V0¥ * &Wos odros 'HpcutKriSf * &Wos ^(\os iy<&* **
Bents the Rhodians making a similar remark to JSth. Eud. vii. 12. : " 'o y^ ^ixos fio6\€Tat cfratj,
the Koman senate in 167 b.c. : " Atheniensium &<nrcf) ^ wapotfxla ^<r2v, &x\os 'HpoicX^y, (Saaos ©Jtoj.**
populum fama est celerem et supra vires audacem L.
esse ad conandum : Lacedcemoniorum cunctato- (^To he continued.)
rem, et vix in ea, quibus fidit, ingredientem," _«_«__
atlv. 23. Bayle, in his Pensees sur les Cometes,
§ 243., has a passage which illustrates the slowness the isthmus or paitama.
of the Spaniards :-:" D^^un c6t6 on prevoyoit, que rphe interest which the execution of the raiboacf
1 empereur et le roi d Espagne se serviroient de ^^^^gg ^^^ Isthmus of Panama excites, induces me
tr^ grandes forces, pour oppnmer la chr^tient6 : ^^ transmit you the following extract from Gi^'s
mais on prevoyoit aussi de 1 autre, qu ils ne seroient j^^^ Survey of the West Indies, 8vo., London, 1699.
jamais en ^tat de 1 accabler, parceque la lenteur ^ ^^^ lines relative to the author, of whom but
et les longues deliberations qui ont toujours fait ^^^jg jg ^nown, may be also of use. He was tiie
leur partage, font perdre trop de bonnes occasions, g^^ of John Gage, of Haling ; and his brother was
Vous savez la pensee de Malherbe sur ce sujet : sj^. genry Gage, governor of Oxford, kiUed at the
Sil est vrai,dit-il dans quelquunedeseslettres, y^^^^^^ at Cufham Bridge, Jan. 11, 1644. His
jue 1 Espagne aspire k fa monarchic universelle, f^^ji ^^^^ ^f ^j,e Ron,|n Catholic faith; and he
le lui conseiUe de demander k Dieu une surseance ^^s sent by his fatlier in 1612 into Spain, to study
de la fin du monde. ^ ^^^^^ the Jesuits, in the hope he would jom that
Essay XXVI. Of seeming wise. — society ; but his aversion to them led him to enter
^^ "Magno conatu nugas."] From Terence, ficaw^. the Dominican Order at Valladolid, in 1612. His
iii. 5. 8. : " Ne ista, hercle, magno jam conatu mag- motives were suspected; his father was irritated-
pas nugas dixerit." threatened to disinherit him and to arouse against
Essay XXVII. Of Friendship. — him the power of the Jesuits of England if he re-
" Epimenides the Candian."] Bacon calls the turned home. He now determined to pass over to
ancient Cretan priest Epimenides a "Candian," the Spanish possessions in South America ; btit as an
as Machiavel speaks of the capture of Rome by order had been issued by the king, forbidding this
the " Francesi'* under Brennus. Mr. Fashley, in to any Englishman, it was only by inclosing him
his Travels in Crete, vol. i. p. 189., shows that in an empty sea-biscuit case, he was able to sail
Candia is a name unknown m the island ; and from Cadiz, July 2, 1625. He arrived at Mexico
that among the natives its ancient denomination on October 8 ; and after residing there for some
is still in use. The name Candia has been pro- time to recruit himself from the voyage, resolved
pagated over Europe from the Italian usage. to abandon a missionary scheme to the Philippine
" The Latin adage meeteth with it a little : islands he had planned, and accordingly, on the
* Magna civitas, magna solitude' "] See Erasm. day fixed for their departure to Acapulco, escaped
Adag.,^.\2^Z. It is taken from a verse of a Greek with three other Dominicans for Chispat. He
comic poet, which referred to the city of Megalo- was here well received, and went subsequently to
polls in Arcadia : " *Eprifxia fieydM (rrlv t} MeydKrj the head establishment at Guatimala. He was
Waw." — Strab. viii. 8. § 1. soon appointed curate of Amatitlan ; and during
" The Roman name attaineth the true use and his residence at this and another district contrived
cause thereof, naming them* participescurarum.'"] to amass a sum of 9000 piastres, with the tad of
To what examples of this expression does Bacon which he sought to accomplish his long-cherished
refer ? desire of returning to England. Many difficulties
" The parable of Pythagoras is dark, but true : were in his way ; but on the 7th January, 1637,
• Cor ne edito.' "] Concerning this Pythagorean he quitted Amatitlan, traversed the province of
precept, see Diog., Laert. viii. 17, 18., cum not. Nicaragua, and embarked from the coast of Costa
The saying of Themistocles is repeated in Apo' Rica. The ship was soon after boarded by s
phthegms, No. 199. p. 392. Dutch corsair, and Gage was robbed of 8000
The saying of Heraclitus is repeated, Apo' piastres. He succeeded in reaching Panama^
phthegms, No. 268. ; De Sap, Vet., vol. xi. p. 346. traversed the Isthmus, and sailed from rorto Bello
Aug. 13. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
in the Spanish fleet, wbicli reached Sao Sucar,
STov. 28, 1637. He returned to England after
an absence of twentj-four yeara. His father was
dead ; he found himself disinherited, and altbougk
bardly recognised by his family at first, he met
ultimately with kindly treatment. During bia
residence in S. America, doubts had arisen in his
nind as to the truth and validity of the creed
And ritual to which he was attached. Whether
this was the consequence of reflection from his
theological studies, or animated love of change
which his conduct at times betrayed, cannot be
decided. He resolved to proceed to Italy, and
renew his studies there. Upon his return, after a
short residence, he renounced Catholicism in a
sermon he preached at St. Paul's. About 1642
he attached himself to the Parliament cause, and
it is said be obtained the living of Deal in Kent;
as the parish registers contain an entry of the
burial of Mary daughter, and Mary wife, of
Thomas Gage, parson of Deal, March 21, 1652 ;
but when he was married, and whom he married,
does not appear. Gage's work has been rather
too much decried. It contains matter of interest
relative to the state of the Spanish possessions ; and
his credulity and superstition must be considered
in relation to his opportunities and his age.
Perhaps some of your readers may contribute
farther information concerning him, as the general
accounts I have been able to meet with are con-
tradictory and insufficient. The Biographic Uni-
verselle states, that it was his Survey of the Wetl
Ivdiet that led to the English expeditions to the
Spanish Main, which secured Jamaica to the En-
glish in 1654, and adds he died there in 16S5.
The registers at Deal could probably prove this
fact; but I confess to doubt as to whether Gage
really were the parson alluded to as resident there
in 1652. He was evidently of a roving unsteady
nature, fond of adventure, and the first to 0[>en to
English enterprise a knowledge of the atate of the
Spanish possessions, to prevent which the council
Of the Indies had passed so many stringent laws,
Colbert caused tins work to be translated, and it
tias been often reprinted on the Continent, but
much mutilated, as bis statements relative to the
Koman Catholic priesthood gave offence. A good
memoir of Gage is still to be desired. The folTow-
tng is the extract relative to (he Isthmus of Pa-
nama, Wegt Indies, p. 1 5 1 . : —
"Tbe Peruvian pait cnntainelh all the loulherD
truit, and is lyed lo the Meiican by the Isthmus or
Strait of Darien, being no more than I T, or. aa olhcn
•■7, in ths narrowest place, but 12 miles broad, from
the Dortli to the south sea. Many have menlloned to
tlie Council of Spain the cutting ot a navigable channel
through this small Isthmus, so to shorten the voyage
to China and the Moluecoet. But the kingi of Spain
bare not yet idtempted to do it ; some say lest in the
work he should lose thoie tew Indians which are Iril
(would to God it were lo, that they were or had been
so careful and tender of the poor Indians' lives, more
paputoui would that vait and spacious country be at
tliii day), but otheTi say he halh not attempted it lest,
the passage by the Cape Bona Esperania (Good
Ho,
r, Ihos
night b
ceptacie for pirates. Uoivever, this hath not been
attempted by the Spaniards; they give not for reason
any extraordinary great charge, for that would soon be
recompensed with the apeeUie and easie conveying that
This bears reference to projects before 1635,
or during his residence in S. America, between
1625—1637 ; but Gage could hardly have under-
stood the nature of the Spanish character, and ths
geniiu of the government, to specuUte upon the
cause of their neglect of every useful enterprise
for the promotion of commerce and public good.
S.H.
Legendi of the County Clare. — On the weflt
coast of Ireland, near the Cliffs of Moher, at some
distance out in the bay, the waves appear con-
tinually breaking in white foam even on the
le, and that it becomes visible
once every seven years. And if the person who
sees it could keep his eyes fixed on it till he
reached it, it would then be restored, and ha
would obtain great wealth. The man who related
the legend stated farther, that some years a^
some labourers were at work in a field on the hdl
aide in view of the bay; and one of them, hap-
pening to cast hia eyes seaward, saw the city In all
Its splendour emerge from the deep. He called
to his companions to look at it ; but though thejr
were close to him, he could not attract their at-
tention ; at last, he turned round to see why they
would not come ; but on looking back, when ha
had succeeded in attracting their attention, the
city had disappeared.
The Welsh legend of the Islands of the Blessed,
which can only be seen by a person who stands
on a turf from St. David s churchyard, bears ft
cunous coincidence to the aboTe. It is not im-
possible that there may have been some found-
ation for the vision of the enchanted city at Moher
in the Fata Morgana, very beautiful spectacles of
which have been seen on other parts of the coast
of Ireland. Fbahcu Kobekt Davibs.
Moon SupersCitioiu (Vol. viii., p. 79.). — In this
ase of fact and science, it is remarkable that even
with the well-informed the old faith in the "chango
of the moon " as a prognostic of fair and foul wea-
ther still keeps its hold. W. W. asks " have we
any proof of" the "correctness" of this faith P To
suppose that the weather raries with the amount of
146
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[No. 198.
31ummated rarfaee on the moon ironld make tlie
ehange in tbe weather yary with the amount of
moonshine, which of course is absurd, as in that case
the clouds would have much more to do with the
question than the moon*s shadow. But still it may
be said the moon may influence the weather as it
is supposed to cause the tides. In answer to this
I heg to state the opinion of Dr. Ick, who was for
upwards of ten years the curator of the Birming-
ham Philosophical Institute, an excellent meteoro-
logist, geologist, and botanist. He assured me
that after the closest and most accurate observa-
tion of the moon and the weather, he had arrived
at the conclusion that there is not the slightest
observable dependence between them.
C. Mansitbld Inolebt.
Birmingham.
Warwickshire Folk Lore. — The only certain
remedy for the bite of an adder is to kill the
offending reptile, and apply some of its fat to the
wound. Whether the fat should be raw or melted
down, my informant did not say, but doubtless
the same effect would be produced in either case.
If a pig is killed in the wane of the moon, the
bacon is sure to shrink in the boiling ; if, on the
other hand, the pig is killed when the moon is at
the full, the bacon will swell. Erica.
Warwick.
Northamptonskire Folk Lore. — There is a sin-
gular custom prevailing in some parts of Nor-
thamptonshire, and perhaps some of your cor-
respondents may be able to mention other plaees
where a similar practice exists. If a female is
afflicted with fits, nine pieces of silver money and
nine threehalfpences are collected from nine ba-
chelors : the silver money is converted into a ring
to be worn by the afflicted person, and the three-
halfpences (t. e. 13^) are paid to the maker of
the ring, an inadequate remuneration for his la-
bour, but which he good-naturedly accepts. If
the afflicted person be a male, the contributions
are levied upon females. E. H.
Slow'tmrm Superstition (Vol. viii., p. 33.). — As
a child I was always told by the servants that if
any serpent was " scotched, not killed," it would
revive if it could reach its hole before sunset, but
that otherwise it must die. Hence the custom, so
universal, of hanging any serpent on a tree after
killing it. Seubucus.
^ A Devonshire Charm for the Thrush. — On
Tisiting one of my parishion^nn, whose infant was
ill with the tbrusfa, I asked her what medicine she
had given the child ? She replied, she bad done
nothing to it but say the eighth Psalm over it. I
found that her cure was to repeat the eighth Psalm
over the infant three times, tl^ee days running; and
on my hesitating a doabt m to the effica^ of the
remedy, she appealed to llie case of another of her
children who had su^red badly from the ^rasii^
but had been cured by the use of no other means.
If it was said ^ with the virtue,*' it was, «he de-
clared, an unfailing cure. The menUon, iu this
Psalm, of ^ the mouths of babes and sucklings,**
I suppose led to its selection. W. Fkasbe.
Tor-Mohun.
OLD JOKS8.
Every man ought to read the jest-books, Ihat
he may not make himself disagreeable by re-
peating ^ Ml Joes ** as the y^ry last good thinffs.
One book of this class is little more than ue
copy of another as to the points, with a change
of the persons; and the same joke, slightly varied^
appears in as many different countries as the same
fairy-tale. Seven years ago I found at Prague
the " Joe " of the Irishman saying that there were
a hundred judges on the bench, because there was
one with two cyphers. The valet-de-place told,
me that when the Emperor and Metternich were
together they were called " the council of ten,**.
because they were eins und zero.
It is interesting to trace a joke back, of whicli
process I send an example. In the very clever
version of the Chancellor of Oxford's speech on
introducinsf the new doctors {Punchy No. 622.).
are these lines :
*< En Henleium I en Stanleium ! Hie emlnens pr»»
sator :
Ille, filiuB pnldhro patre, faercle pulchrior orator ;
Demosthenes in herba, $ed in ore retinent iilos
QuoM, antequam peroravit, Grteeus respuit lapUlos."
Ebenezer Gmbb, in his description of the oppo-
sition in 1814, thus notices Mr. F. Douglas :
** He is a forward and frequent speaker ; remarkable
for a graceful inclination of the upper part of his body
in advance of the lower, and speaketh, I suspect (^after
the manner of an ancient^ witfi pebbles in his mou/A.'*-— >'
New Whiff Guide, 1819, p. 47.
In Foote*s Patron, Sir Boger Dowlas, an East
India proprietor, who has sought instruction in
oratory from Sir Thomas Lofty, is introduced U>
the conversazione : —
** Sir Thomas. Sir Roger, be seated. This geatk-
man has, in common with the greatest orator the world
ever saw, a small natural infirmity ; he stutters a little t
but I have prescribed the same remedy that Demo-
sthenes used, and don*t despair of a radical cure. WeU,
sir, have you digested those general rules ?
^ Sir Jioger. Pr-ett-y well, I am obli-g*d to yoa^-
Sir Th-onoas.
Sir Thomas. Did you open at the last fpeaerail
court?
Sir Itoffer. I att*empt-ed Ib-ur or five times.
Sir Thomas, What hindered your progress ?
Sir Roger. 2%epe~6-^fc«.
Aus. 13. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEBIE&
147
Sir Thomcu, Oh^ the pekbUs in kig mouth : but they
are only put in to practise in private : you ghould take
Aem out when you are addrening the pubKc,**
I cannot trace the joke farther, but as Foote,
though so rich in wit, was a great borrower, it
might not be new in 1764. H. B. C.
Garrick Club.
AN II7TERP0LA.TI0N OE THE PltATBBS : TOBACCO.
I have witoessed the represenUUion of the Twe^h
Night as often, during ti^ bat five-aad-forty years,
as I have had an opportunity- ; and, in every in-
stance. Sir Toby, Sir Andrew, and the Clown, in
their rollicking orgies, smoke tobacco. Now, this
must be an " interpolation of the players ;" for not
only was tobacco unknown in Illyria, at the period
of the story, but Shakxpeart does not once name to-
hacco in his works^ and, therefore, was not likely
to give a stage-direction for the use of it. The
great poet is freely blamed for anachronisms ; it is
but fair he should have due credit when he avoids
them. The stories of his plays are all antecedent
to his own time, therefore he never mentions
either the drinking of tobacco, or the tumultuous
scenes of the ordinary which belonged to it, and
which are so constantly met with in his cotem-
porary dramatists. I see there is a note in my
oommonplace-book, after some remarks upon
Greenes Friar Baaan and Friar Bungay, " that this
play, though wntten by a pedant^ ami a Master of
Arts, contains more anachronisms than any one
play of Shakspeare's."
Can any of your correspondents learned in stage
traditions say when this *' smoking interpolation"
was first made ?
But, Sir, I think I shall surprise some of your
readers by pointing out another instance of the
absence of tobacco or smoking. In the Arabian
Night's Entertainments, which are said to be such
faithful pictures of oriental manners, there is no
mention of the pipe. Neither is coffee to be met
with in those tales, so delightful to all ages. We with
difficulty imagine an oriental without his chibauk ;
and yet it is certain they knew nothing of this
luxury before the sixteenth century. At present,
such is the almost imperious necessity felt by the
Turk for smoking and cofiee, that as soon as the
gun announces the setting of the sun, during the
fast of the Ramada, before he thinks of satisfying
his craving stomach with any solid food, he takes
his cup of coffee and lights his pipe. — As I think
it dishonest to deck ourselves with knowledtj^e
that is not self- acquired, I confess to the having
but just read this "note" in the last number of
the Revue des Deux Mondes, in a fine work upon
America by the celebrated savant, M. Amn^e.
W. BOBSON.
StodLw^U.
Curious Epitaph, — In the Diary of ThomoB
Moore, Charles Lamb is said at a certain dinner
party to have "quoted an epitaph by Clio Rickraan,
m which, after several lines in the usual jog-trot
style of epitaph, he continued thus :
' He well perform*d the husband's, fiither's part,
And knew immortal Hudibras by heart.' *'
There is an epitaph in the churchyard of New-
haven, Sussex, in which the last of these two lines
occurs, but which does not answer in other respects
to the character of the one quoted by Lamb. On
the contrary, it is altogether eminently quaint,
peculiar, and consistent. The stone is to the
memory of Thomas Tipper, who departed this life
May the 14th, 1785, aged fifty-four years ; and the
upper part is embellished with a representation,
in bas-relief, of the drawbridge which crosses the
river, whence it might be inferred that the compre-
hensive genius of Mr. Tipper included engineering
and architecture. The epitaph runs thus :
(* Reader, with kind regard this grave survey,
Nor heedless pass where Tipper's ashes lay.
Honest be was, ingenuous, blunt and kind.
And dared do what few dare do — speak his mind»
Philosophy uid History well be knew.
Was versed in Physlck and in Surgery too :
The best old Stingo he both brew*d and sold.
Nor did one knavish act to get his gold.
He play'd through life a varied comic part.
And knew immortal Hudibras by heart.
Reader, in real truth this was the man :
Be better, wiser, laugh more if you can.**
Is there any reason for supposing this epitaph
to have been written by Clio Rickman ; and s
anything known of Mr. Tipper beyond the bio-
graphy of his tombstone ? G. J. De Wiij>b»
Enigmatical Epitaph, — I offer for solution sxi
enigma, copied from a tomb in the churchyard of
Christchurch in Hampshire :
•* WE WERE NOT SLATKE BUT RATSD ;
EATSD yOT TO LIFE,
B^T TO BE BVRIED TWICE
XT MEN OF STRIFE.
WHAT REST COVLD *■ LIVING HAVE,
WHEN DEAD HAD NONE ?
AGREE AMONGST TOT,
HERE WE TEN ARE ONE.
HCV. aOOCRS DIED AFRIL 17, 1641.
I. R.
i«
The popular legend is, that the ten men perished
by the falling in of a gravel-pit, and that their re-
mains were buried together. This, however, will
not account for the ** men of strife."
Is it not probat)Ie that, in the time of the civil
wars, the bodies might have been disinterred for
the sake of the leaden coffins, and then deposited
in their present resting-jdace P
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 198.
The tomb mar have been erected some time
afterwards by " 1. E.," probably a relative of the
" Henry Kogers," the date of whose death U com*
memorated. T. J.
Books vtorthy to he reprinted (Vol. vii., pp. 153.
203.). — In addition to those previously mentioned
in " N. & Q.," there i^ one for which a crying
necessity exists for a new edition, namely, The
Complaj/tii of ScoSand, It is oflen advertised
and otherwise sought for ; and when found, can
only be had at a moat extravaeant price. It was
originally wrilten in 1548 ; and in ISOl, a limited
impression, edited by Dr. Leyden, was published;
and in 1829, "Critiques upon it by Duvid Herd,
and others, with observations in answer by Dr.
Leyden," to the number of seventy copies. TAt
Complaynt o/Seotland and Sir Tristram, an edition
of Vhich was edited by Sir Walter Scott, and
published in 1804, are two of the oldest MOtk» of
which the literature of Scotland can boaat.
Imtxbsbbs.
NapoleoiCt TAuaderslorm. — The passage of the
Niemen by the French army, and its consequent
entry on Uussian territory, may be said to have
been Napoleon's first step towards defeat and ruin.
A terrible thunderstorm occurred on that occasion,
according to M. Segur'a account of the Euaaian
campaign.
When Napoleon commenced the retreat, by
which he yielded all the country beyond the Elbe
(and nhicD, therefore, may be reckoned a second
step towards his downfall), it was accompanied by
a tnunderstorm more remarkable from occurring
at such a season. Odelben says ;
" C'^tait un pheDom^ne b]en eitiaaidinaire dmni un
parell siiiMin, eC avec te froid qu'on venait d'^prouver,"
&c. — Odelben, Canqi. de ISIfl, vol. i. p. SB9.
The first step towards hia second downfall, or
third towards complete ruin, was hia advance upon
the British force at Quatre-Braa, June 17, 1813.
This also was accompanied by an awful thunder-
storm, which (although gathering all the forenoon)
commenced at the very moment he made his at-
tack on the British rear-guard (about two p. m.),
when the first gun fired was instantaneously re-
sponded to by a tremendous peal of thunder.
Thunder, to Wellington, was the precursor of
victory and triumph. Witness the above-men-
tioned introduction to the victory of Waterloo;
the terrible thunder, that scattered the horses of
the dragoons, the eve of Salamanca ; also, the
night preceding Sabugal. And perhaps some of
the Duke's old companions in arms may be able
to add to the category. A. C. M.
Exeter.
Titamboid — Corittantinople. — Mr. (aflerwarda
Sir George) Wheler, who took holy orders and
became rector of Houghton-le* Spring in the
diocese of Durham, makes the following remarb
in his Journey into Oreeee, ffc. (fol., Lond. 1683),
p. 178. :
'■ Conitantinople it now vulgarly called Slaiabiil hj
the Turks ; bul by the Greeks more often IttampeE,
which mutt needi be a corruption from the Oratk
.... 1 either ^m Constantinopolia, which in prct
ceH of time might be corrupted tnio Slanpolit or /><aa-
pnli 1 or rather, from it being culled r6Xis hot' ^o^^.
For the Turks, bearing the Greeks eipren their going
to Constantinople by *l['H)rT^i', which tbey pronounce
Is-tia-polln, and often for brevity's sake Stinpoli, might
•oon ignorantly call it Iilaitpoli or SlaniM, according
as either of them came into vogue first. And Ihere-
tbre I think theirs i* a groundless fancy who fetch it
(rom the Turkish word Iitaaboid, which aignifin t
city full of or abounding in the true faith, the nunc
being so apparently of Greek origiaal."
W. S.6.
Newcaitle-on. Tyne.
fiturfrtf.
STanr-STOWBBS, ahd ibaibbbs oa tasduu.
In the Collection of divers curious Historical
Pieces printed by the Eev. Francis Peck at the
end of his Memoirt of Oliver Cromwell, is —
" Some account of the Murder of the Hermit of
Eskdsle-aide, near Whitby, in Com. Ebor. by WillUm
de Bruce (Lord of Ugle Bamby), Ralph de Peiiey
(Lord of Snealou), and one Allalson, a GeuL, andef
the remarkable penance which the Hermit ei^oyoad
them before be died."
The B
f is briefly this:— On the 16tli Oo-
Allalaon were bunting the wild boar in Ea'kdale-
aide, where was a chnpel and hermitage, in which
lived a monk of Whitby, who was a hermit. The
boar beins hotly pursued by the dogs, ran into
the chapel and there laid down and died. The
hermit shut the door on the hounds, who stood at
bay without. The three gentlemen coming up,
flew into a great fury, and ran with their boar-
ataves at the hermit and so wounded him that he
ultimately died. The three gentlemen, fearing
bis death, took sanctuary nt Scarborough, btit the
Abbot of Whitby being in great favour with the
king, removed them out of sanctuary^, wherebj
they became liable to the law. The dying hermit
(he survived till the 8th December), on the
abbot's proposing to put them to death, suggested
the following penance, to which, in order to isve
their lives and goods, they consented, and to which
the abbot likewise agreed :
" You and yours shell hold your lands of the Abbat
of Whitby and his suceessots alter this manner, via.
upon the eve (or morrow before] Ascension Day, you,
or some of you. shall come to the wood of Stray- Head,
which is in Eikdale-side, by auc-rlsing, and there shall
Auo. 13. 1853.]
NOTES AJND QUEEIES.
the officer of the abbat blov bU hom, that ye may
know fao<r to find him. And he shall ddiier to joa,
William de Bruce, ten sUkes, eleven strut-stowers, and
eleven yeathers, to be cut by you, and those that come
for you, with a knife of a penny price. And you,
Kalph de Peircy, ahall take one and tirenty of each
■OTl, to be cut in the some manner. And you, Al-
lat«on, shall take nine of each sort, to be cut as afore-
said. And then ye sliall tnke Ihem on your tracks, and
carry Ihem to the toirn of Whitby, and take care to be
there before nine of the clock, and at the same hour, if
it be a full sea, to cease your service. But, if it below
vater at nine of the dock, then each of you shall, the
same hour, let your stakes at the edge of the vater,
each stake a yard from Ihe other, and so yeather them
your slrut.rtowers, that they may stand three tides,
each of you shall" really do, perform, and execute this
service yearly at the hour appointed, except it be afull
Bca, when this service shall cease ; in remembrance that
ye did most cruelly slay me. And that ye may the
more seriously and fervently call upon God far mercy,
and repent unfeignedly of your sins, and do good
works, the officer of Kskdale-side shall blov. Out on
you I Out on you ! Outonyoul forthis heinous crime
of yours. And if you or yours shall refuse this service
■t the aforesaid hour, when it shall not be a full sea,
then you shall forfeit all your lands to the Abbat of
Whitby and bis succeasotB."
There is a similar accounl, with verbal and
Otlier variationj, "From a printed copy published
at Whiibv a few years ogo," in filount'g Joeaiar
Tenarei, by Beckwith, pp. 537—560. In that ac-
count the iTord, which m Mr. Peck's account is
"yeithers," is " yadders." Mr. Beck with stales,
"This service ia sriU annually performed."
Sir Walter Scott (Marmion, Canto u. si. 13.)
thus alludes to the legend :
" Tlien ^Vhitby's nuns exulting told.
How to their house three Barons bold
Must menial service do ;
While horns blow out * note of shame.
And monks cry ■ Fye upon your name I
In wrath, for loss of silvBD game.
Saint Hilda's priest ye slew.' —
•This on Ascension Day, each year.
While labonring on our harbour pier,
Must Herbert, Bruce, and Percy hear.' "
In note 2. C. the popular account printed and
circulated at Whitby is given. It is eubatantially
the same with that given by Beckwith, but for
" strut-s lowers" we have " strout-stowers j" and
for "yadders" we have "yethers." It appears,
also, that the service was not at that Ume per-
formed by tbe proprietors in person ; and that
Eart of the lands charged therewith were then
eld by a gentleman of tbe name of Herbert.
I shail be giad if any of your correspondents
will elucidate the terms strut-itAwers, and yea-
thers or yadders. C. H. Coofbb.
Cambridge,
ArchhUhop Pariej's Correspondence. — I am
now engaged in carrying out a design which has
been lone entertained by the Parker Society, that
of publishing the CorresponiJence of the distin-
n;uished prelate whose name that Society bears.
If any of your readers can favour me with refer-
ences to any letters of tbe archbishop, either un-
published, or published in works but little known,
I shall feel exlremely obliged, I add my own
address, in order that I may not encumber your
pages with mere references. Any information be-
yond a reference will probably be as interesting to
your readers generally as to myself.
John Bbucb.
S. Upper Gloucei
I, Dorset Squa
AmorNummi. — Can any of your correspondenla
inform me as to the authorship of the following
So SI
rt-loads t
■e told.
(ruth, we [no?] doubt, in days of old.
But now, thanks to our good friend, Billt Pitt,
This wholesome golden adage will not sit [Gt?] ;
On English ground the vice dissolves in vapour.
Being at best only a love — of paper."
It must have appeared in an English ministerial
paper about the year 180S. — From the Navortcker.
DlONTSIOB,
The Niimher Nine. — Can any of your mathe-
matical correspondents inform me of tbe law and
reason of the following singular property of the
numbers? If from any number above nine the
same number be subtracted written backwards,
the addition of tbe figures of the remiuuder wilt
always be a multiple of nine ;
972619
916279
fi6340 the sum of whici
935012
210529
714483 the sum of whicI
45 the sum of which is
sis, t
9x2.
John Lahuehs.
Fosilion o/Tonf. — The usual and very signiS-
cant position of the font is near tbe church door.
But there is one objection to this, viz. that the
benches being best arranged facing the chancel,
the people cannot without much confusion see the
baptisms. This being so, perhaps a better place
150
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 198.
for the font is at the entrance of the chancel. The
holy ri(e, so edifying to the congregation, as well
as profitable to the recipient, can then be duly
seen ; and the position is tolerably symbolical,
expressing as it were " the way that is opened for
us into the holiest of all.'* I am curious to know
if there are any ancient examples of this position,
and how far the canon sanctions it, which directs
that the font be set up in ^^the ancient usual
places *' [plural] ? While on the subject let me
put another Query. The Rubric directs that the
font be "then," i,e, just before the baptism,
filled with pure water. In what vessel is the
water brought, and who fills the font? What
are the precedents in this matter? Rules, I
think, there are none. A. A. D.
Aix Huochim or Romans loner. — On the verge
of the clifi*at Kingsgate, near the North Foreland,
is a small castle or fort of chalk and fiint, known
by the above name. Can any of your readers give
any information regarding the date of the erection
of this curious edifice ? Some of the local guide-
books attribute it to the time of Vortigern, or
about 448; but this seems an almost fabulous
aBtiquity, A. O. H.
Blackheath.
" Lessons for Lent^^ Sec, — Lessons for Lenty or
Instructions on the Two Sacramento of Penance
and the B. Eucharist^ printed in the year 1718.
Who was the author ? H.
"ia Branche des reaus Lignages^ — Have any
of jour correspondents met with a romance, of
which I have a MS. copy, entitled " La Branche
dea reaus Lignages ?" The MS. I possess is evi-
dently a modern copy, and begins thus :
" Et tens de cell mandement
Duquel j'ai fait ramembrement
£t qu'aucun liomme d'avis oit
Jehan, qui Henaut justisoit
Guerr^oit et grevoit yglises
!En la garde le roi commises
Ne . . . li vouloit faire bommage."
The^ poem is divided by numbers, probably re-
ferring to the pages of the original : beginning with
1292, and ending with 1307. It is also evident,
from the first verses themselves, that I have only
a fragment before me. — From the Navorscher,
Ganske.
Marriage Service, — Are there any parishes in
which the custom of presenting the fee, together
with the ring, in the marriage service, as ordered
by the rubric, is observed ? E. W.
"Caror" or «* 2>ar." — Whence the derivation
of the title Czar or Tsar f I know that some
suppose it to be derived from Caesar, while others
trace it from the terminal ^sar op 'Zar in tlie
names of tlte kings of Babylon and Assyria : as
Phalas-5ar, Nebuchadnez-zar, &c. In jPersian,
sar means the supreme power. I have heard much
argument about its origin, and would be much
obliged if any reader of " N. & Q." could state
the correct derivation of the word.
By which Emperor of Russia was the title first
assumed ? J. S. A
Old Broad Street
Utile SUver, — There are several places in
Devonshire so called, villages or hamlets. It is
said, they are alway situated in the immediate
neighbourhood of a Roman, or some oUier aneient
camp. Hence, some people suppose the name is
given to these localities from the number of silver
coins frequently found there.
Will any of your correspondents throw light on
this subject ?
As Qv^ry one knows, there is also a Silverton in
Devonshire — Silver-town par exceUemce, Is it
in any way connected with the ''Little Silvers ?**
A.aM.
Exeter.
On JEsoj^^s (?) FaMe of washing the Blacka'
moor, — Is it possible the well-known fable was a
real occurrence? The following extract would
seem to allude to an analogous fact :
" Counting the labour as endlessc as the maids ia
the Strand, which endeaToured by washing the Blaek-
a-more to make him white.*' — Ca%e of Sir Ignoramiu
of Cambridge, 1648» p. 2S.
R. C. Wards.
Kidderminster.
Wedding Proverb, — Is the ff^iowing distich
known in any part of England? —
** To change the name, but not the letter.
Is to marry for worse, and not for better.**
I met with it in an American book» but it was
probably an importatioii. Spiksteb.
German Phrase, — What is the origin of a sar-
castic German phrase often used ?
** £r erwartet dass der Himmel voU Basi^eigen
langt.**
X»« M. M. R.
German Heraldry, — Where can I refer to a
book in which the armorial bearings of all the
principal German families are engraved ?
Spexibkd.
Lemon Family, — About the middle of the seren-
teenth century, say 1650 to 1670, two gentlemea
lefl England for America, who are sapposed to
have been brothers or near relatives dT §nr John
Leman, who was Lord Mayor of London in 1616.
Traditions, which have been preserved in maan-'
script, and which can be traced back OTer cue
AVG. 13. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
161
hundred years, tell of a correspondence which
took place between the said Sir John and the
widow of one of the brothers, in relation to her
returning to England.
The writer of this (a descendant of one of these
fentlemen) is anxious to learn the names of the
rothers and near relatives of this Sir John ; and
■whether any evidence exists of their leaving Eng-
land for America, &c., &c. ; and would feel much
indebted to any one who would supply the inform-
ation through your paper. R. W. L.
Philadelphia.
A Cob-wall, — Why do the inhabitants of Devon-
shire call a wall made of tempered earth, straw,
and small pebbles mixed to;zether, a coh-wall ?
Walls so constructed require a foundation of stone
or bricks, which is commonly continued to the
height of about two feet from the surface of the
ground. Has the term cnh reference to the fact
that such a wall is a superstructure on the found-
ation of stone or brick ? A. B. C.
Inscription near Chalcedon. — Tn 1675, when
Sir Geo. Wheler and his travelling companion
visited Chalcedon (as recorded in his Voyage from
Venice to Constantinople^ fol., Lond. 1682, p. 209.),
it was famous only tor the memory of the great
council held there in a.b. 327, the twentieth of the
reif^n of Constantine the Great :
** The first thing we did (he says) was to visit the
metropolitan church, where they say it was kept ; but
M. Nanteuil assured us that it was a mile from
thence, and that he had there read an inscription that
mentioneth it. Besides, it is a small obscure building,
incapable to contain such an assembly.'*
Has the inscription here spoken of been noticed
by any traveller, and can any of your readers refer
to a copy of it ; and say whether it is cotem-
porary, and whether it has been more recently
noticed ? W* S. G.
Newcastle-on- Ty DC.
Domesday Booh. — What does the abbreviation
gld", or geld", applied to terra, signify ? Also, in
the description of places, there is frequently a
capital letter, B., or M., or S. before it, as in one
oase, e,g, " B. terr. gld wasta." Can any one in-
form me what it signifies ?
In the case of many parishes, it is stated that
there was a church there : is it considered com-
elusive authority that there was not one, if it is
not mentioned in Domesday Book f A. W, H.
Dotinchem, — What modern town in Holland,
or elsewhere, bore or bears the name of Dotinchem,
at which is dated a MS. missal I have inspected,
written in the fifteenth century ? The reason for
believing the place to be Dutch is, that the Calen-
dar marks the days of the principal saints of
Holland with red letters. There are other indi-
cations in the Calendar of the missah having been
written in and for the use of a community situated
where the influence of Cologne, Li^ge, Maestricht,
and Daventer would have been felt.
Perhaps, should the above Query not be an-
swered itt England, some correspondent of your
Dutch cotemporary the Navorscher may have the
goodness to reply to it. G. J. B. Gobdoit.
Sid mouth.
" Mirrmir to aU," ^c, — Can yon refer me to any
possessor of the poetical work entitled a Mirrour
to aU who love tofoUow the Wars (or Waves), 4to.:
London, printed by John Wolfe, 1589 ? A copy
was sold by Mr. Rodd for six guineas. (See hig
Catalogue for 1846.) H. Dblta.
Oxford.
Title wartted,^^! have a copy of the Pt^^
Porcorum, the margin of which is covered with
illustrative and pardlel passages, among which it
the following :
•«Heros
Ad magnum se accingit opus fermmque bifurcuiA ]
Cote aeuit, pinguique perungit acumina lardo;
Deinde suts, vasto consurgens corpore, rostrum
Perfurat et furcam capulo tenus urgct, at ilia
Prominuit rostro summisque in naribus bsesit.**
Xmpoxotpoy. 182.
I shall be much obliged to any one who will
give me the full title to the book from which this
is quoted, and any account of it. G. H. W.
Portrait of Charles L — Countess Du Barry, —
In Bachaumont*s MSmoires Secrets, 8fc., I read
the following passage under date of March 25,
1771:
«* LUmperatrice des Russies a fait enlever tout }«
cabinet de tableaux de M. le Comte de Thiers, amateur
distingu^, qui avait une tr^»-belle collection en ce
genre. M. de Marigny a eu la douleur de voir passer
ces richesses chez T^ranger, faute de fonds pour les
aequ^ir pour )e eompte da roi.
" On distinguait parmi ces tableaux un portrait en
pied de Charles I., roi d'Angleterre, original de Van-
dyk. C*e8t le seul qui soit rest^ en France. Madame
la Comtesse Dubarri, qui d^loie de plus en plus son
go6t pour les arts, a ordonn^ de Vacheter : elle Ta pay6
24.000 livres. 'Et sur le reprocbe qu*on lui faisait 4a
choisir un pareil morceau entre tant d'autres qui auraient
d{^ lui mieux eonvenir, elle a repondu que e*^it im
portrait de famille qu*elle retirait En effet, les Do-
barri se prdtcndcnt parents de la Maison des Stuarda."
Can you give me any account of this portrait of
King Charles by Vandyk, for which the Countess
Du Barry paid the sum of 1000/. sterling ?
What grounds are there for the allegation, that
the Countest was related to the royid House of
Stuart? Hbubt H. Bbsbx.
8t« Jjomm.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. X91
" Preparation for Martyrdom." — Can any of
jowc correspondents ^cover for me the anthor of
the fallowing work F —
" A Preparation fbr Martyrdom ; a DUeourse about
the CauK, the Temper, the AsaisUncea, and Renrdi
of a Martyr of Jnus Chriit : in Dialogue betwixt a
Itfinister and a Gentleman his Parishioner. Land.
1681, ^to."
In order to aSbrd somewhat of a clue to this
discovery, I send a few extracts from another
WQonjmoua work : A Letter to the late Author of
the ^'Preparaiioafor Martyrdom^' alluding to ya-
rious circumstances relating to the author :
" I muil confess that I had once as great a vene-
I.U<,» f=. ,.u .. for «,, o. [ot] ,.ur l^^,. in Ih.
fdiurch ; hut tlien you preach'd honestly, and liy'd
peaceably ; but since pride or ambitious discontent,
or some particular respects to some special friends of
the adverse party, or something 1 know not what elsf,
has thrust you upon scribbling, and ■ design of being
popular ; since you had forsufcon your first love (if
CTer you had any) to our church and establishment,
and appear to be running over ad parltra Doaali, to
the disturbers of our church and peace, you must needa
pardon thia abort reflection, thougii from an old Irleud,
and sometimes a great admirer of you.
" Aa for the present establishment, you have (you
conclude) as much already irom that as you are likely
to have, but you claw the democratical party, hoping
at long run to see an (Englii/,) Parliament ) that is,
we must know, one that has no French pensioners
ahuCBed into it to blast the whole business, such as will
be govem'd by your instructions j and then Presbytery
(you trust) will lie turn'd up Trump, the Directory
onee more take place of the Liturgy, and God knows
what become of the Monarchy, and Mr. C. be made a
. " What an excellent design was lliat of your Stipu-
lation, which I heard one say was like a new modell'd
Independency. 'Twai intended, I suppose, as an ex-
pedient to reduce the sheep of your own flock, which
through your default chiefly (as is commonly reported)
were gone astray; but because this tool could not
work, without the force of a law to move it, therefore
by law it must have been establishc, and the whole
nation forsooth eomprehended under it, and all muat
have set their instruments to your key, and their voices
! had tl
impious, in your unworthy reflections upon almod aB
the honest people of England since the beginning of
the reign of Olivtr the First, and some time before;
not sparing many loyal worthies' memory who held up
a good cause upon their sword paints (as you eiprus
it) as long as they could ; and when they could do so
no longer, either dy'd fbr't, or deliver'd themselves np
to the will of the conqueror, yet never (aa you) ahjor'd
the cause. Our rulers you suppose are ill eOected
(otherwise your talk of Popery at your rate ia like
piracy li
engine
with firm footings in Psrllament, as was hoped, our
Eytiih world had been lifted offits pillars long before
this day ; it had gone round, and in the church all old
things had been done away, and everything bad ap-
peared new. But, Sir, I trust the foundations of our
eburch stand more sure than to need such silly props as
your Caiholicon (as you vainly call il) to support 'em.
" What an excellent thing too is your book of Pa-
tronage? 'Twere no living f<>r Simon Magui, or any
of his disciples here, if those rules you there lay down
were but duly attended to.
" But in those two books you showed yourself prag-
matical only J hut in tbis of Martyrdom not a little
bring in Popery) : and, undoubtedly, it had been in
already, had not the prayers of Mr. C, and the fifty
righteous iVon- Cant in every city, prevented iL"
Dublin.
[The Prtparation far Martyrdom is not to be fbund
either in the Bodleian or British Museum Cataloguo.
The author of the Lilltr in reply to it, however, has
afiorded a clue to its authorship. Zachary Cawdrcy,
who appears to have been an admirer of the Vicar of
Bray, was Rector of Barthondty in Cheshire durpg
the Commonwealth, and for fourteen years after the
Restoration ; this explains the hint in the l.ttter, of
" setting their voices to the tune of B — &y." Cawdrey,
moreover, was the author of Diieoane of Patronofti
heing a Modtit laqahy into the OrigiiuU of it, and a
farther Promution of the Hillary of if: which is also
noticed in the Letter. Zaehary Cawdrey was bora at
Melton Mowbray shout ISlfi; at (he age of sixteen
he entered St. John's College, Cambridge; and in
1649 became Rector of Barthomley, where he died
Dec. 24, 1684. His brother David was one of tb*
ejected, and the author of several warks.J
Reference mmted. — I finiJ, in Blackwood,
No. XXXVI. p. 431}., a reference to an article in
the Ediabtirgh BevietB, by Sir D. E. Sandford, on
Greek banquets. As I cannot find the article
iticlf, may X a«k your assbtance ?
P. J. F. Gaktiuxir.
N. B. — In the article in Blackwood, p. 441., for
" Hegesanrfer " read Hegeeippui ; p. 444., for
"Deingfe"readDemgli«,- p. 450.,for"Nan»iifi^"
read Nausiniftu; p.4SS., for " He«perideg " read
Hyperides.
Speaker of the ffotue of Cotnmotu in 1697. —
Who was the Speaker who succeeded Sir John
TreTor, and was Speaker of the House of Com-
mons in 1697 ? W. Fbaser.
Tor<MohuD,
[Peter Foley, Esq, succeeded Sir John Trevor,
March 14, 1694- Sr Thomas Littleton, Bart., wa»
chosen the next Efpeaker, December S, IG98.]
Aug. la. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
153
IIT8CRIPTION8 IN BOOKS.
(VoLvii. passim.)
Under this head the following translation of
?art of the inscription at Behistun may be classed,
t is, I apprehend, the earliest of this sort of in-
scription :
** Darius rex dicit: si hanc tabulam, hasque effigies
spectas, et lis injuriam facias, et quamdiu tibi proles
sit non eas conserves, Oromasdes hostis fiat tibi, et
tibi proles non sit, et quod facias id tibi Oromasdes
frustretur."
See Kawlinson*s ** Translation of the Great Per-
sian Inscription at Behistun,** par. 17. Asiatic So'
cietifs Transactions,
The following is an extract from Maitland*s
Dark Ages, p. 270., notes 3 and 4 :
"Terrible imprecations were occasionally annexed
by the donors or possessors of books ; as in a sacra-
mentary which Mastene found at St. Benoit sur Loire,
and which he supposed to belong to the ninth century.
* Ut si quis eum de Monasterio aliquo ingenio non
redditurus abstraxerit cum Juda proditore, Anna et
Caipha, portionem aetemse damnationis accipiat. Amen,
Amen, Fiat, Fiat.* "
' There is a curious instance of this in a manu-
script of some of the works of Augustine and Am-
brose in the Bodleian Library :
'* Liber S. Mariae de Ponte Robert!, qui eum abs-
tulerit, aut yendiderit, vel quolibet modo ab hac do mo
absciderit, sit anathema maranatha. Amen.'*
In another hand (alien^ manu), —
'* Ego Johannes £xon Epus, nescio ubi est domus
predicta, nee hunc librum abstuli, sed modo legitimo
adquisivL"
Also page 283. :
** Liber B. Mariae de Camberone : si quis eum abstu-
lerit, anathema esto."
In the preface to a late publication (1853),
FragmeiUs of the Iliad of Homer from a Syrian
Palimpsest, edited by William Cureton, the editor
tells us :
« The Palimpsest Manuscript, in which I discovered
these fragments of a very ancient copy of the Iliad of
Homer, formed a part of the library of the Syrian
convent of St. Mary Deipara, in the Valley of the
Ascetics, or the Deserts of Nigritia. On the first page
of the last leaf the following notice occurs: ' This vo-
lume of my Lord Severus belongs to the reverend and
holy my Lord Daniel, Bishop of the province of
Orrhoa (Edessa), who acquired it from the armour of
God, when he was down in the province of the city of
Aroida, for his own benefit, and that of every one that
readeth it. But under the curse of God is he who-
soever steals it, or hides or removes it «... or
tears, or erases, or cuts off this memorial from it, for
«ver. And through our Lord Jesus Christ may he
who readeth it pray for the same Daniel, that he may
find mercy in the day of judgment 1 Yea, and Amen^
and Amen. And upon the sinner who wrote it, may
there be mercy in the day of judgment ! Amen. But
at the end of his life he bequeathed it to this sacred
convent of my Lord Silas, which is in Tarug (a city of
Mesopotamia), for the sake of the remembrance of
himself and of the dead belonging to him. May the
Lord have mercy upon him in the day of judgment I
Amen. Whosoever removeth this volume from this
same convent, may the anger of the Lord overtake him
in both worlds to all eternity ! Amen.* "
Anoit.
In some of Dugdale*s MS. volumes in this College
is the following, written by himself:
** Maledictus sit qui abstulerit"
Thomas W. EIing, York Herald.
College of Arms.
THE drummer's liETTER.
(VoLvii., p. 431.)
Mr. Forbes rightly describes the Drummer's
Letter in the SentimentalJoumey as "not only cor*
rectly but elegantly written." There is, more-
over, in two or three places, a play upon words,
which indicates an intimate acquaintance with the
idiomatic turns of the language. But all these
circumstances are, to my mind, only so many
CTounds for the belief that the French of the
letter is not Sterne's.
If we are to judge of Sterne's French from the
samples to be met with in Tristram Shandy and
the Sentimental Journal, there is ample evidence
that his knowledge of that language was some*
what superficial. I shall give a few examples.
Your readers are familiar with the incident in
Tristram Shandy, where the Abbess and Mar-
garita, having occasion to make use of two very
coarse and indecent expressions, resort to the
ludicrous expedient of splitting them in two, each
pronouncing a separate syllable. Those words
are scandalously common in the mouths of French-
men ; and yet Sterne seems so little aware of the
correct spelling of them, that he makes the poor
nuns give utterance to two words, one of which,
"bouger," means "to move," and the other,
" fouter," is unknown to the French language.
Farther on, in chapter xxxiv., the commissary
employs the expression "C'est tout egal;" but
this is merely the translation of our English
phrase " 'Tis all one." The French say " C'est
^gal," but never " C'est tout 4gal."
In the Sentimental Journey, under the head of
" The Bidet," La Fleur is made to say " C'est ua
cheval le plus opini&tre du monde." Now, the
man who could write the Drummer's Letter
would not have applied the epithet "opini&tre**
154
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 198.
to ft horse ; and, ftt ftnj rate, he would have Sfud
♦* CTest le cheval le plus opini&tre du moncle."
In the chapter headed "The Passport" and
also in another place, we have the phrase " Ces
Messieurs Anglais sont des gens tr^s extraordi-
naires/* This should be " Messieurs les Anglais/*
&c.
Again, under the head of " Characters,** Count
de B. says, " But if you do suppoii it, Af. Anglais ,
jon must do it with all your powers.** This " M.
Anglais *' is our " Mr. finglisoman.** The correct
expression is " M. TAnglais ** — Mr. the English-
man.
I might add other instances ; but these, I
trust, are sufficient to warrant the opinion that
the Drummer*8 Letter^ in its present shape, was
not written by Sterne. JEIbnst H. jBsben.
St. Lucia.
OLD FOGIES.
(Vol. vii., p. 632.)
At the place above referred to, Me. Ebightlet
puts to me several Queries ; but being resident in
the country, I had not an opportunity of seeing
them till the 15th instant, and it took some days
to get the information that would enable me to
amwer them.
I have now obtained the most ample evidence
•f the existence, in the latter part of the last, and
the beginning of the present, centuries, of the
existence of a peculiar body of men called the
Fogies^ in Edinburgh Castle. My informants
agree in describing them as old men, dressed in
red coats with apple-green facings, and cocked
hat9. One says that they fired the Castle guns ;
another says that he understood them to be the
keepers, or, as we might say, the warders of the
Castle, and that they were sometimes brought into
the town to assist in quelling riots ; and this gen-
tleman*s recollection of them goes back to 1784 at
least. But the oldest date I have been able to get
is from a much respected friend, the retired Town
Clerk of Edinburgh, who writes to me thus : *' I
have a most vivid recollection of the Castle Foggies*
They were an invalid company, and my recol-
lection of them goes as far back at least as 1780,
when I was at Stalker*s English school in the
Lawnmarket.**
To the testimony of these still living witnesses,
I have to add that of Dr. Jamieson, who gives the
word in his Dietionaiy as one of common and well-
known use in Scotland in his time, 1759 — 1808 ;
though he may have been mistaken in supposing
it to be exclusively Scottish. It was for his tes-
timony to this /act that I referred to Dr. Jamie8on*8
Dietionary^ and not for bis etymology, for I am
tH>t so much of a ** true Soot ** as to consider bim
iofiillible in that d^artment. I have BOi leisare
at present to search any farther for the word in
books, but in the meantime I presume to think
the evidence I have procured or its use in Scot-
land, will carry us nearly as far back as Mx.
Keightl£T*s for its use in Ireland.
I cannot pretend to much acquaintance with
the Swedish langunge, but I was quite well aware
that that " is what is meant by the mysterious Sa.-
G.*' I was also aware that in the kindred Teu-
tonic tongues the word runs through the various
forms of vogt^ fogat^ phogat^ voget, tfoogd^ fi^g^%
ff*g^dy fogett^ with the meaning of bailiff^ steward,
preses, watchman, guard or protector, tutor, over-
seer, jud<re, mayor, policeman; and I doubt not
that fogie belongs to the same family, though it
has lost its tail. Ma. Kbigrtlbv does not need
to be told that words frequently degeneriite in
meaning, falling from the noblest to the basest,
from the purest to the most obscene. Is there
then anything improbable in supposing that a wwd
once applied to the governor or ehief keeper of a
castle, came at last to be applied to all, even the
meanest, of his subordinates P Dr. Jamieson as-
serts that theword/(;^c2ein the Su.-G. has actually
had that fate ; can Mb. Kbightlbt controvert
him ?
As a proof, quantum valeat, that the Castle fogies
were so called for some other reason than merely
because of their being ^* old folks,** I may neii«
tion that there was in Edinburgh, for more than
a century, another bo(ly of veterans, called the
Town Guard, or City Guard, maintained by the
magistrates as a sort of military police, or tteit^
doruierie, and finally disbanded m 1817. This
corps was generally recruited from old soldiers ;
and during the period of my acquaintance with
them (9J years) they were all aged, and some of
them very old men ; yet I never heard the word
fogies applied to them. On the contrary, they
were always distinguished from the fogies by the
elegant appellation of the ^*Toon Rottens,** or
Town Rats, as well as by their facings, which
were dark blue. Some, indeed, of my younger
friends, who remember the ** Rats ** very well, say
they never heard of the ** Fogies ** at all ; onlj
one of them, who lived when a boy at the Castfe
Hill, perhaps about forty years ago, recollects of
the word "fogie** as being then applied to the
soldiers of the ordinary veteran or garrison bat-
talions, with blue facings, that had superseded the
fogies in the keeping of the Castle; but of the
veritable apple-green fogies of the older establish-
ment, he nas no remembrance. As my own re-
collections of Edinburgh go back to 1808, the
fogies, I presume, must have been by that time
eitinct, for I never saw any of them, thoagh I
frequently heard them spoken of by those who
had seen them.
I may mention also that while " fogie** was in
me, aad of well understood appHcation in Seet-
Aug. 13. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIEa
155
land, the pbrase " old folks," or, to write it accord-
ing to our vernacular pronunciation, " auld fo*k,"
was also, and continues to be, in general and fa-
miliar use ; but nobody in Scotland, I dare say,
ever imagined that " the auld fu'k " of his or-
dinary acquaintance were just "old fogies," or
had anything whatever to do with- that peculiar
class of men, properly so called, the keepers of the
royal castles. It is most remarkable, also, that
while the corrupt derivative, as Mb. Keightlbt
says " old fogie * is, has been almost quite for-
gotten among us, having disappeared with the
men that bore the name of fogies, the parent form,
as he would have " old folks *' or " auld fo'k " to
be, should remain in full vigour and common use,
as part of our living speech. In a word, from all
I can learn it would appear that the word " fogie,"
in its most general acceptation, means by itself,
without the *' old," an old soldier ; and that " old
fogie " is only a tautological form, arising from ig-
norance of its meaning. Be its origin, however,
what it may, I have no hesitation now m express-
ing my conviction that Mb. KsiGHTiiEr's etymo-
logy of the word is utterly groundless. J» L.
City Chambers, Edinburgh.
DBSC£NJ>A19T3 OT JOHK OF GAUNT.
(Vol. vii., p. 628.)
All persons will, I think, agree with Mb. Wab-
DBN in his very just complaint of the carelessness
with which many of the English Peerages are com-
}Mled. It would be a task, little short of a new
compilation, to correct the errors and inaccuracies
with which many of these productions abound, the
less pardonable now, bcMsause of the facilities
afforded for consulting the Public Records, should
even our older genealogists, without such aids, be
in some degree excused ; but as Mb. Wabdeb in-
vites, by a personal appeal, the rectification of a
chronolc^icail error which has crept into all the
Peerages, founded upon the authority of Dogdale,
respecting the period of the death of Thomas,
sixth Lord Fauconberge, I^am induced to send
you a few Notes, which a recent examination of
the Records in the Tower of London has supplied.
When the facts are made patent, there will be
no need to dwell upon the inconsistencies pointed
out by Mr. Wabden, and the alleged incompati-
bility in regard to age for an union between two
persons of some note in family history, the son of
the first Earl of Westmoreland and his Countess
Joan and the daughter and heir of the Lord Fau-
conberge, who formed an alliance from which the
co-heirs are, it is believed, represented at this
day.
The birth of William Nevtll, Lord Faucon-
l»er^ afterwards created Earl of Kent, second
son of a marriage which took place early in, or
just before, the year 1397, may be assif^ned to in
or about the year 1400; and we shall presently
see that his future wife was bom on the 18th ra
October, 1406, and married to him before the 1st
of May, 1422.
Walter, fifth Lord Fauconberge, died on the
29th of September, 1362 (Esc. 36 Edw. III., 1st
part. No. 77.), leaving a sou Thomas (issue of his
first marriage with Matilda, sister and co-heir of
Sir William de PateshuU, Kt., Esc. 33 Edw. III.,
1st part. No. 40., and Eot. Orig.^ 34 Edw. III.,
Ro. 2.), then a minor, under eighteen years of
age.
Thomas, who was bom circa 1345, was already
in 1362 married to his first wife Constancia, by
whom he does not appear to have left any issue
surviving. His was rather an eventful life ; some
incidents not noticed by Dugdale will be briefly
cited. On the 10th of August, 1372, being then
a knight or chivaler, he had letters of protection
on going abroad in the king*s service, in the com-
pany of Thomas de Beauchamp^ Earl of Warwick
{RoL FruHc.^ 46 Edw. III.). Here it seems he
forgot his allegiance, and having gone over to the
French side was branded "tanquam proditor
domini Regis Angli» " (Esc. 5 Ric. II., No. 67.,
6 Ric. IL, No. 180., and 11 Ric. IL, No. 59.).
Can this have been the origin of the error in as*
signing his death to the year 1376 P He was,
however, yet living in 1401, as in that year be
succeeded to the reversion of the estates which his
step-mother Isabella (a sister of Sir John Bygot,
Chivaler), the widow of Walter Lord Faucon-
berge, held in dower (Esc. 2 Hen. IV., No. 47.).
Not long after this, and apparently a few years
only before his death, and when somewhat ad-
vanced in years, he married a second time. I
have not been able to ascertain to what family his
wife Joan, or Johanna, belonged, but she survived
her husband only a short time. About the period
of his marriage, too (9th August, 1405), an oc^
currence of some importance to bis descendants
is recorded, namely, a grant by the king to Sir
Thomas Bromflete and Sir Robert Hilton, of the
custody and governance of all his estates in Eng-
land, which bad come into the king*s hands ^* ra«
tione ideociae ThomsB Fauconberge, Chivaler," to
hold during the life of the said Thomas. This
grant, however, was in the following year, on
24th December, 1406, revoked and annulled, be-,
cause the said Thomas had proved belbre the
king and his council in Chancery, "quod ipse
sanae discretionis hactenus fuerit et ad tunc ex*
istat," and he was thereupon re-admitted to his
estates which had descended to him ''jure hsere-
ditario post mortem Walteri Fauconberge patria
stti, cttjus hseres ipse est** {Rot Pat,i p» 1^
8 Heo. IV., m. 16.). He had only a few months
before (15th February, 1406) obtained from the
king liverj of an estate which had eome to him in
156
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 198.
1375 as one of the co-heirs, on his mother*8 side,
of his grandmother Mabilia, a sister of Otho de
Graunson, upon the death without issue of Thomas
de Graunson, son of the said Otho. {Rot Pat,,
p. 1., 7 Hen. IV., m. 6.)
Was there in fact any real ground for the sug-
gestion of Lord Fauconberge s idiocy ? This is
one of the gravest imputations that can be cast
upon a family, and it is a most unpardonable pre-
sumption to make it lightly and without justice;
but it is somewhat singular that nearly fifly years
afterwards, his only daughter and heir, born at
the very period when this charge was being re-
futed, and when he himself was upwards of sixty
^ears of age, became the subject of a commission
issued to inquire of her alleged imbecility and
idiocy. The commissioners sat at Gisburn in
Cleveland in the county of York, on the 28th of
March, 1463, and it was then found by the in-
quest that " Johanna Fauconberge nuper comi-
tissa de Kent, fatua et ydeota est, et a nativitate
sua semper fuit, ita quod se terras et tenementa
sua neque alia bona sua regere scit, aut aliquo
tempore scivit : ** the jury also returned that she
had not alienated any lands or tenements since
the death of William, late Earl of Kent, her late
husband. That Joan, the wife of Sir Edward
Bethom, Kt., thirty years old and upwards,
Elizabeth, the wife of Richard Strangeways, Esq.,
twenty-eight years old and upwards, and Alice,
wife of John Uonyers, Esq., twenty-six years old
and upwards, were the daughters and heirs, as
well of the said William the late eai*l, as of the
said Joan the late countess. (Esc. 8 Edw. IV.,
No. 33.)
Thomas Lord Fauconberge died on the 9th of
September, 1407, leaving the above-mentioned
Joan, or Johanna, his daughter and heir, an infant
of one year old. (Esc. 9 Hen. IV., No. 19. ; see
also Esc. 9 Hen. V., No. 42.) His widow Joan
had assignment of dower after her husband^s
death on 20th October, 1408, and she herself died
in the following year, on the 4th of March, 1409.
(Esc. 10 Hen. I v.. No. 15.) A later inquisition,
however, taken on 1st of April, 1422 (Esc.
10 Hen. v., No. 22*.), states that the said Joan,
widow of Sir Thomas Fauconberge, Chivaler, died
on the 23rd of June, 1411. The first date is most
probably the correct one, as a fact would be more
likely to be accuratelv stated by a jury impan-
neled a few months only after the event recorded,
than by an inquest, taken after an interval of
twelve or thirteen years.
On the formal proof of age (Esc. 10 Hen. V.,
No. 22**.) of Joan Fauconberge, daughter and heir
of Thomas Lord Fauconberge and Joan his wife,
taken at Northallerton, in the county of York, on
the 1st of May, 10 Henry V., 1422, she was de-
scribed as the wife of William Neville. She
appears to have been born at Skelton in the said
county, and baptized in the church there on the
feast of Saint Luke the Evangelist (18th of Oc-
tober), 1406 ; and on the same feast in 1421, being
the 9th of Henry V., she had accomplished her
fifteenth year. Dugdale (tom. ii. p. 4.) has fallen
into a singular mistake in alluding to this events
not to speak of the obvious inconsistency which
those writers who follow his account have intro-
duced in assigning the year of Lord Fauconberge*s
decease to 1372, thus making the daughter's birth
to have occurred more than thirty years after her
father's death. It is this : — One of the witnesses^
who speaks to the period of the baptism of Joan,
was named Thomas Blawefrount the elder, fifly
years of age and upwards, and the reason as-
signed by him for his remembrance of the event
is as follows : " Et hoc scit eo quod Isabella filia
prsedicti Thomse desponsata fuit cuidam Johanni
Wilton, et idem Thomas fuit ad sponsalia eodem
die quo prsfata Johanna baptizata fuit, propter
quod bene recolit quod prsefata Johanna fuit
setatis prgedictse." Dugdale has by a strange over-
sight made the Isabella here described to be the
daughter of Thomas Fauconberge, and sister of
Joan, instead of the witness* own daughter.
It is not quite evident, from the language of the
document which records the imbecility of the
Countess of Kent in March 1463, whether she
was then actually dead. It appears, however,
clear that she survived her husband, who lived but
a few months to enjoy his newly acquired dignity.
The account given by Dugdale of John, son of
Thomas Lord Fauconberge, is scarcely intelligible.
He says this lord ** left issue John, his son and
heir,** and subsequently adds, ** which John died
without issue in the lifetime of his father.**
Lord Fauconberge may have had a son by his
former wife, but I have seen nothing to confirm
this supposition. By an inquisition taken afler
the death of Sir Walter Fauconberge, Chivaler, at
Bedford, on the 18th of November, 1415, it was
found that Joan, widow of one Sir John Faucon-
berge, Chivaler, deceased, whom Thomas Broun*
flete, junior, afterwards married, was then living,
and that she granted to the said Sir Walter all the
estate which she had in certain rents payable by
Matilda AVake, formerly the wife of Sir Thomaft
Wake, Chivaler; that the said Sir Walter died
on the 1st of September, 1415, but the jurors
knew not who was his heir, (Esc. 3 Hen. V.,
No. 15.) Dugdale (vol. ii. p. 234.) cites a feoff-
ment dated 9 Hen. IV., 1407-8, which shows that
Thomas Brounfiete, Esq., was then married to the
said Joan, and consequently that Sir John Fau-
conberge was dead at that time.
I must close this, for I fear I have now ex*
ceeded the limits which your valuable paper may,
with justice to others, spare to subjects of this
nature. Whjjam Hakdt.
Aug. 13. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
157
PHOTOGRAPHIC GOBBBSPONDENCE.
Lining of Cameras, — I find nothing so good to
line a camera with as black velvet; for, black the
inside of a camera as you will, if it is hard wood or
any size used, there will be reflection from the
bottom, which, with very sensitive plates, gives a
dulness which, I think I may say, is caused by
this reflection. I think even the inside of the lens
tube might advantageously be lined with black
velvet. W. M. F.
Cyanuret of Potassium, — ^I have been using lately
12 grs. of cyanuret of potassium in 1 oz. of water
for clearing the collodion plates, instead of hypo.
There is one advantage, that there are no crystals
formed if imperfectly washed, which is too common
with hypo. You must take care to well wash off
the developing fluid, whether pyrogallic, proto-
nitrate, or protosulphite : if you use the latter
40-grains strong, the whitest pictures can be ob-
tained, nearly as white as after bichloride of
mercury. A good formula to make it is —
Distilled water - - - 11 drachms.
Alcohol - - • - 1 drachm.
Nitric acid - - - 20 minims. *
Protosulphate of iron - - 60 grains.
This I know to act well with care, and it will keep
a long time.
I find protonitrate solution -—
Water - - - - 1 J ounce.
Barytes - - - - 150 grains.
Protosulph. - - - 150 „
mixed in a proportion of 8 to 4, with a 3 -grain
solution of pyrogallic — a very nice developing
mixture ; and, if poured back again after being
used, will suffice 6 or 8 times over ; but it is best
new. W. M. F.
Minuteness of Detail on Paper, — Being fond
of antiquarian studies, and having learned from
" N. & Q.'* the value of photography to the ar-
chaeologist, I have serious thoughts of taking up
the practice of the art. Before doing so, however,
I am anxious to learn how far that minuteness of
detail which I so much prize, and which is of such
value to the antiquary, is to be obtained by any of
the processes on paper. I have seen some spe-
cimens produced by collodion which certainly ex-
hibit that quality in an eminent degree. Is any-
thing approaching to such minuteness attainable
by any of the Talbotype processes ? F. S. A.
[Had this Query reached us last week, we should
then, as now, have replied in the afiirmative. We
should then have referred, for evidence in support of
our statement, to Mr. Fenton*s Well Walk, Chelten-
ham, published in the Photographic Album, and to Mr.
Buckle's View of Peterborough. But we may now
adduce a work almost more remarkable for this quality,
namely, a view of Salisbury, by Mr. Russell Sedgefield,
a young wood engraver, which is about to appear in
the forthcoming part of the Photographic Album,
To this beautiful specimen of the art we may cer-
tainly refer as a proof that it is quite possible to obtain
upon paper the greatest nicety of detail; in short,
every minuteness that can be desired, or ought to be
attempted.]
Stereoscopic Angles. — I think there can be little
doubt that Mr. T. L. Merbitt (Vol. viii., p. 110.)
has solved the problem as to stereoscopic angles :
there can be no reason why one angle should be
used for near objects, and another for distant. A
true representation of nature is required ; and, as
we cannot view any object with one of our eyes
eighteen or twenty feet separate from the other,
so it appears to me a true picture cannot be ob-
tained by taking two views so far apart. The
result must be to dwarf the objects ; and, in con-
firmation of this, I may state that I was not con-
vinced that the stereoscopic views were taken
from nature till I understood the cause of their
reduction. All views that I have been able to
purchase, of out- door nature, appear to me to be
taken from models, and not from the objects them*
selves.
A view of a tower conveys the idea, not of a
tower of stone and lime, but of a very careful
model in cardboard ; and this is exactly what
might be expected from taking the views at so
wide an angle. A church is seen, as it would be
seen by a giant whose eyes were twenty feet apart,
or as we would see a small model of it near at
hand.
I hope that some of your photographic corre-
spondents will settle this question, by taking views
of the same object both by the wide and close
angle, and, by comparing them, ascertain which
conveys to the mind the truest representation of
nature. T. B. Johnston.
Edinburgh.
Sisson*s developing Solution (Vol. vii., p. 462.).
— Will you be so good as to ask Mr. Sisson if he
finds the above to answer as a bath to plunge the
plate intOy instead of pouring on, as in the case of
pyrogallic ?
He is entitled to the warm thanks of all photo^*
graphers for the discovery of a solution which
produces such pleasing tints with so much ease ;
and it needs but the qualification I inquire after
to render it perfect. I have used it when at least
three weeks made, and am not sure that it is not
even better than when fresh. S. B.
P.S. — Why not devote a little more space to
this fascinating art in " N. & Q.'' ? I think, if
anything, it grows less latterly.
MulHplpng Photographs. — In Vol. yiii., p. 60.,
you reprint a communication from Sir W. Her*
schel which has appeared in TAe Athenaum,
NOTES A2ID QUEBIES. [No. 19«L
Ave. 13. 1853.]
NOTES AOT) QUERIES.
154
John Moi?e, Esq^ London, 1635, which lately esme
into my hands : — La navel NaJtara Brevmm dm Juge
Tresreverend Jfansievr Aidhony Fitzherbert ; with
a new table by William Rastall. The preface is
headed as follows: — ** La Preface sur ceet lieua
compose per le Reverend Justice Anthony Fitz-
herbert."
Anthony Fitzherbert was appointed Chief Jus-
tice of the Common Fleas in 1^23, and died io
30 Hen. VIU. WilUam Raatall was appmnted
Serjeant-at-law in 1554, and one of tlie Justices
of the Common Fleas in 1558: it would seem,
therefore, that as Rastall ts not styled ^ Serjeant-
at-law" tn die title-page of the hock, when he
made a new table to its contents, that the com-
plimentary style of Reverend, as applicable to the
judges, was used at least as late as the middle of
the sixteenth century.
Thomas W. King, York Herai/D.
College of Arms.
Jacob Bolmrt (Vol. viiL, p. 37.). — I beg to
supply the followinjr additional particulars relating
to the Bobart family. In the Correspondence of
Dr. Richardson, edited by Mr. Dawson Turner,
will be found a letter from Bobart junior to the
Doctor, with a reference to two other letters. In
pages 9, 10, and 11, a copious note respecting the
Bobart family, by the enditor, is given. A short
notice of Bobart jun. also appears in the Me-
moirs of John Miirtyn, Frofessor of Botany at
Cambridge. The following epitaph on Bobart
jun. is in Amherst's Terns Films, 1726 :
" Here lies Jacob Bobart,
Nail*d up in a cupboard."
In the preface to Mr. Nichols* work on Atdographs,
among other albums noticed by hitn as being in
the Britiiih Museum, is that of David Krieg, with
Jacob Bobart*s autograph, and the following
verses :
*<VIKrUS SOA GLORIA.
Thhik that day lost whose descending sun.
Views from thy hand no noble accion done.
Tovr success and hftppyness
Is sincerely wished by
Ja. BoaAitT, Oxibrd."
Mr. Richardson's engraved portrait of Bobart
the Elder is only a copy of Burghers' engraving,
so highly spoken of by Granger, and cannot,
therefore, be nearly so valuable as the latter.
Gablichithe.
« PuUing your foot into it'' (Vol. viii., p. 77.)
W. W. is certainly " Will o' the Wisp" himself.
We must not allow him to lead us into Asia, hunt-
ing for the origin of a saying which is nothing
more than a coarse allusion to an accident that
happens day after <lay to every heedless or be-
iu|[hted pedestrian in England ; but if a foreign
ongim mut be found £nr ^ia saying, let us travel
to Grreeee rather than to Hindofitm, and we ahall
see in the writings of .£schylus :
'^X^^* tfapaii^eiif yot^eruv re rhv Kokws
Tlpda-trotr?" K.r, \. — Pirom, Vine, 27 1 .
C. FoSBSS.
Temple.
Simile of the Sotd and the Magnetic Needle
(Vt)l. vi., pp. 127. 207. 280. 368. 566. ; Vol. vii.,
p. 508.). — We have all overlooked the following
use of this simile in Thomas Hood's poem, ad-
dressed to Rae Wilson :
** Spontaneously to God should tend the soul.
Like the magnetic needle to ihe Fole ;
But what were that intrinsic virtue worth.
Suppose some feUour, with more zeal than knowledge,
Fresh from St. Andrew's College,
Should nail the conscious needle to the north?**
C. MaNSFIEIJ> iMGIiEBY.
Birmingham.
The Tragedy of Polidus (Vol. vii., p. 499.). —
This tragedy, printed at London 1723, 12mo., has
a farce appended to it called All BedeviCd, or the
House in a Hurry, Browne was patronised bj
Hervey, the author of the Meditations, The scene
of the drama is in Cyprus. The lover of Folidus,
" the banished general," and Rosetta, daughter to
Orlont, chief favourite to the king, form the
groundwork of the plot. My copy was formerly
in the collection of plays which belonged to Stephen
Jones, author of the Biographia DramaUoa.
J. Mt.
Robert Fairlie (Vol. vii., p. 581.). — In answer
to the Query as to Robert rairley, or more pro-
perly Fairlie, I may mention that there is in my
possession a presentation by the Faculty of Advo-
cates, dated July 27, 1622, to "Robert Fairlie,
son lawfuU to Umquhill Robert FaiHie, goldsmith,
Burgh of Edinburgh, to the said bursar place and
haill immunities quhill he pass his course of Phi-
losophie," in the College of Edinburgh. This un-
doubtedly was the author of the two very rare little
poetical volumes referred to ; and it proves, from
the use of Uie word " Umquhill," that his father
was then dead.
There is an error in stating that the Kalendariwn
is dedicated to the Earl of Ancrum. In the copy
before me it is inscribed " Illustrissimo et Nobilif*
simo Domino, Domino Roberto Karo Comiti a Sum-
merset," &c. The other work is the one dedicated
to Lord Ancrum. I have both works, and they cer-
tainly were costly, as I gave five guineas for them«
They had originally been priced at ten guineas.
A Bursary, according to Jamieson, b " the en-
dowment given to a suident in a university, bm
exhibition." It is believed that Fairlie wis of the
Aynhize &mii j of tiiat name. J* Ms .
160
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[Na 198.
"JWofcr ait nata," j-c. (Vol.Tii., pp.247, 248.).—
When calling attention to these lines in "N.&Q."
(Vol. vii., p. ISS.), I at the same time asked if
Buch ■ relationship as that mentioned in them woa
ever known to eiist ? This Query was verj
kindly and aatiBfactorily answered by your cotre-
Bpondents Anok and Tra. Bu^ remarkable as were
the instances mentioned by them of the two old
ladies in Cheshire and Limington, who could speak
to their descendants in a female liue to the fifth
geueration, still that Z am non to record of an old
man in Montenegro ia much more singular, as be
could converse with hia lineal descendants in an
■uninterrupted male line one generation farther
from him, (i. e.) to the sixth. The case is too well
authenticated to admit of a doubt, and until some
one of your correspondents shall favour me with
another equally to be credited, it will remain in
the columns of " N. & Q." as the only one known
to its readers : —
" Colonel Vialla de SommUtes, a Frenchman, wlio
wu for a long time goiemor of Ibe proiince of Catano,
mentiEjns a faniiLy he saw in a villaj^e of Montene^o,
which reckoned lir generations. The veneralile head
of the family was 117 yenrs old, his son 1 00, his grand-
lon 82, great-grandson 60, and the son of this last, wba
was 43, bad a son aged SI, whoae child was 2 years
W.W.
Sir John VaniTVgk (Vol. Tiii., p. 65.). — Anoh.
points at Chester as the probable birthplace of the
above knight, named in Mb. Huohbs'b Query.
Now, Mr. Davenport, in his Siog. Diet., p. 546.
(wherein is a wood-engraved portrait of Sir John),
states that he was bora in London, about 1672 ;
but, supposing hia place of nativity was, as your
correspondent auggeats, Chester, it might very
easily be ascertained by searching the parochial
register of that city in or about the above year.
Fete de> Chaudroia (Vol. vii!., p. 37.). — Some
account of this f?te will probably be found In Du-
cange't Olossariam Media et Infimm LatimtaHa.
I have not a copy of the work at hand for reference.
John Macbat.
Oxford.
Murder of Monaideschi (Vol. viii^ p. 34.). —
The following account of this event is taken from
the Biographia Universelie, article "Christine, reine
de Sugde :"
" Cet Itallen avait joul do loute la confiance de U
reine, qui lui avait i&vUk ses pensles lea plus secretes.
ArriT^e & Fontaineblesu, elle Taccusa de trahiion, et
riaolut de le faire mourir. Un religieui de I'ordre de
la Trinili. le P. Lebet, fut appele pour le priparer k la
nort. Maaaldeschi se jeta aui pieda de la reine et
Ibndii en larmes, Le teligieox, qm a public lui-meme
un rfcit de I'fvfnement, fit i Chrii^ne lea plus fortei
reprfaentalioni sur cet acle de vengeance qu'elle vauiait
eiereer arbitrairemeut dans une terra ^trang^re et dans
le palais d'un grand aouveraini mais elle resta inSei*
ible, et ordonna a Suntinelli, capitaine de ses gardea, da
faire eifcuter I'arrSC qu'elle avait prononc^. Moual-
descbi, H)up(onnant le danger qu'd courait, a'etait cui-
rass^ : il falInC le Trapper de pluaieurs coups avant quH
eipirit, et la galerie des Cerfs. oil se paua cctte ac^na
r^voltante, fut leiute de son sang. Pendant ce tempi,
Christine, au rapport de pluueura hiMoriens, ftail darn
calme de choses indiSerenies ; selon d'autres rapporla,
elle fut pr£sente i I'eiecutioo, accabla Monaldesi^i de
dissimuler. Que cea details soient fond£s ou non, la
Diort de Monaideschi est une Uche inefTafable k la me-
moire de CbriitJne, et c'est k regret qu'on voiC sur la
liate de aes apologiatea le nom du tameui Ideibnilz."
In the answer which Queen Christina sent lo
the objectioDB made in Poland to her election aa
their sovereign, occurs the following passage ;
" Le Pere dira en tSmoignagc de la vinxi, que cet
homme me forja de le faire mourir par la trahison la
de«
nal £cr
mfme, en presence de irois t^moins, et du F^re ptieui
de Fontainebleau : qu'ils savent qu'il diC lui-meme:
' Je suis digne de mille morls.' et que je lui fis donner
lea sacremeos dont il £tait capable avant que do le &irB
mourir." ~ Mlmoira conctrnant Chritimt, Anul. et
I^eipiig, 1759, torn. iii. pp. 386-7.
'A\i^.
Dublin.
Tour correspondent will find an account of thli
affair in the Appendix to Ranke's HUtory of Vim
Popes. ' f.£H.
Zand of Green GiBger (Vol. ylii., p. 34.). — It
is so called from the sale of ginger having been
chiefly carried on there in early times. As far as
lean recollect, none of the locw histories gives any
derivation of the name; those of Gent and Frost
certainly do not, and this is the one generally re-
ceived by the inhabitants. Salthouse Lane and
Blaoket Row are other streets, which may be
referred to as having obtained their names in a
similar way. B. W. Elliot.
Clifton.
An inhabitant of Hull has informed me that thi*
street was so named by a house-proprieUr wfaosa
fortune had been made in the West Indies, and I
think by the sweetmeat trade. T. K. H.
UnnealA (Vol. vii., p. 631.). — It strikes me that
^our correspondents Ma. C. H. Coopsnand E. G. B.,
in reply to Ma. Wsaaur'a inquiry respecting the
AtTG. 13. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEIE&
161
use of the word " unneatb," used in PameU's
Fairy Tale, have fallen into a slight mistake in
supposing that the seemingly old words used in
this poem are really so. I make no doubt that
Mb. Halliwell is correct in noting the word
*• unneath ** as signifying " beneath," in the patois
of Somerset ; but I gravely suspect that Parnell
had picked up the word out of our older poets,
and used it m the passage quoted without con-
sideration.
The true meaning of " unneath " (which is of
Saxon oricrin, and variously written ''unnethe,
unnethes ") is scarcely, not easily.
Thus Chaucer says :
" The miller that for-dronken was all pale,
So that unnethes upon his bors he sat.**
The MiUers Prologue^ v. 3123. [Tyrwhitt.]
And again : •
" Yeve me than of thy gold to make our cloistre.
Quod he, for many a muscle and many an oistre»
When other men hau ben ful wel at ese
Hath been our food, our cloistre for to rese :
And yet, God wot, unneth the fundament
Parfourmed is, ne of our pauement
K' is not a tile,'* &c.
The Sompnours Tale, v. 7685»
"Unneath," signifying difficult, scarcely, with
diffijcuUy, occurs so frequently in Spenser, that it
is unnecessary to burden your pages with refer-
ences. It may be remarked, however, that this
latter author occasionally employs this word in the
sense of almost T. H. de H.
Snail Gardens (Vol. viii., p. 33.). — In very
many places on the Continent snails are regularly
bred for the table : this is the case at Ulm, Wir-
temberg, and various other places. A very lively
description of the sale of snails in the Roman
market is given by Sir Francis Head. I have
collected much interesting information on t|his
point, and shall feel grateful for any farther
'* Notes " on the subject. Sbleucus.
Parvise (Vol. vii., p. 624.). — Perhaps the fol-
lowing quotation may throw light on your cor-
respondent D. P.*s inquiry respecting this word,
in French Parvis. It is taken from a Dictionnaire
Universel, contenant generalement tons les mots
franqois, tant vieux que modemes, Sfc, par feu
Messire Antoine Furetiere, Ahhe de ChaJivoi,
three vols, folio. La Haye et la Rotterdam, 1701 :
" Parvis, *. w. — Place publique qui est ordinaire-
ment devant la principale face des grandcs Eglises.
IjC parvis de Notre Dame, de Saint Genevieve. On
le disoit autrefois de toutes les places qui ^toient de-
vant les paluis, et grandes maisons. Les auteurs
Chretiens appellent le Parvis des Gentiles, ce que les
Juifs appelloient le premier Temple, II y avoit deux
Parvis dans le Temple de J6ru&alem ; Tun int^rieur,
qui ^oit celui des Pr^tres ; et Tautre ext^rieur, qu'on
appelloit aussi le Parvis d^Israel, ou le Grand Parvis*
— Le Cl.
" Quelques-uns disent que ce mot vient de Paradisus ;
d'autres de parvisium, qui est un lieu au bas de la oef
oh Ton tenoit autrefois les petites Ecoles, d docendo
parvis pueris, Voyez Menage, qui rapporte plusieurs
titres curieux en faveur de Tune et de Tautre opinion.
D'autres le derivent de pervius, disant qu*on appelloit
autrefois pervis, une place publique devant un bati-
ment.'*
T. H. DB H.
Humbug (Vol. vii., p. 631.). — Allow me to add
the following to the list of explanations as to the
origin of this word. There appeared in the Berwick
Advertiser the following origin of the word hum*
bug, and it assuredly is a very feasible one. It
may be proper to premise, that the name of bogti^
is commonly pronounced bug in that district of
Scotland formerly called the ** Meams^' *
" It is not generally known that this word, presently
so much in vogue, is of Scottish origin. There was in
olden time a race called Bogue, or Boag of that ilk, in
Berwickshire. A daughter of the family married a
son of Hume of Hume. In process of time, by default
of male issue, the Bogue estate devolved on one Geor*
die Hume, who was called popularly * Hume o* the
Bogue,* or rather *Aum o* the Bug.* This worthy
was inclined to the marvellous, and had a vast incli-
nation to exalt himself, his wife, family, brother, and
all his ancestors on both sides. His tales however did
not pass current ; and at last, when any one made an
extraordinary statement in the Mearns, the hearer
would shrug up his shoulders, and style it just * a hum
o' the bug.* This was shortened into hum-bug, and the
word soon spread like wildfire over the whole kingdom.**
How far this is, or is not true, cannot be known ;
but it is certain that the Lands of Bogue, com-
monly called by country folk " Bug," passed by
marriage into the Hume family ; and that the male
representatives of this ancient family are still in
existence. This much may be fairly asserted,
that the Berwickshire legend has more apparent
probability about it than any of the other ones.
^ J.Mt.
P. S.--" That ilk," in old Scotch, means "the
same:" in other words, Hume of that ilk is just
Hume of Hume ; and Brodie of that ilk, Brodie
of Brodie.
Table-moving (Vol. vii., p. 596.). — I imagine
that the great object in table-moving is to produce
the desired effect without pressure. During ex-
periments I have often heard the would-be " table-
movers" cry "Don't press: it must be done
without any pressure." J« A. T.
Scotch Newspapers (Vol. viii., p. 57.).— In Bud-
diman's Life, by G. Chalmers (8vo. Lend. 1794),
it is stated that Cromwell was the first who com*
municated the benefit of a newspaper to Scotland.
I«2
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 1961
In 1652, Cbrifltopher Hig^ins^ a prkiter, wbom
Cromwell had conveyed with his army to Leitb,
reprmted there what had been ah-eady poblkhed
tt London, A IHurrud cf somepassc^es and affairs
for the information of the Engliah Soldiers, A
newspaper of Scottish manufacture appeared at
£dlnburgh, the same authority relates, on the 3 1st
of December, 1660, under the title of Mercuritts
Ccdedonius; comprising the affairs in agitation in
Scotland, with a survey of foreign intelligence.
It was published once a week, in a small 4to. form
€# eight pages. Chahners adds, that —
" It was a son of the Bishop of Orkney, Thomas
Lydserfe, who now thought h€ had the wit to amuse,
tbs knowledge to instruct, and the address to eap ivate
Ibe lovers of news in Seotland. Bat he was only able,
wttii all h» pcHvers, to extend his publication to ten
mimbers, whiefa were very hiyal, very ilLttcrste, and
very affected.**
John Macsat.
Oxford.
Door^kead InscripOons (Vol. vii., pp. 23. 190.
588.; Vol. viii., p. 38.). — Over the door of the
house at Sahrfngton, Sussex, in which Selden was
bom, is this inscription :
** Gcatirs, honeste, mlhi ; non clavdar, inito sedeq'
Fvr, abeas ; non sv* fisicta solvka tibi."
It has been thus paraphrased :
1. By the late William Hamper, Esq., Crent,
Mag,y 1824, vol. ii. p. 601. :
'* ThouVt welcome, honest friend i walk in, make free :
Thie^ get thee gone ; my doors are clofi*d to thee."
2. By Dr. Evans :
<* An honest man is always welcome here ;
To rogues 1 grant no hospitable cheer.'*
3. In Evans's Picture of Worthing, p. 120. :
*' Dear to my heart, the honest here shall find
The gate wide open, and the welcome kind ;
Hence, thieoes, away \ on you my door shall close,
Within these waits the wicked ne*er repose."
4. In Shearsmith's Worthing, p. 71. :
" The honest man shall find a welcome here,
My gate wide open, and my heart sincere ;
Within these walls, for him I spend my store.
But thieves, away I on you I close my door.'*
Anow.
Honorary Degrees (Vol. viii., pp. 8. 86.). — The
short note of C. does not elucidate — if, indeed, it
touches upon — the matter propounded. It was
stated, whether correctly I know not, that hono-
rary doctors created by diploma (reference being
made to the Duke of Cambridge, and one or two
other royal personages) would have the distinctive
privil^e of voting in Convocation. It then oc-
curred to me that Johnson — whose Oxford dignity
was conferred in 1776, by special requisition of
tlie Chancellor, Lord North (his M. A. degree had
*»* Letters, stating particwlars and lowest pvie«, emtr^ge Jt^mt,
t» b« sent to Mr. Bbll. PuUishar oC ** NOT&ii Alltt
QUERIES." 186. Fleet Street,
been, I judge, likewise by diploma) — i» not me»»
tioned bj Buswell or CrdLer, as having on aaj
occasion exereised the right referred to. Did lie
possess that right ? and, if so, was it ever exer-
cised ? The fre()uency of hb visits %» Oxfiwrd, aad
the alleged rigid ailberence to academical rostuiT,
make the question one of some interest : beside^
in regard to a person so entirely «ici generis^ and
upon whose cliaracter and career so much uiinatd-
ness of biographical derail has been bestowed, it ia
not a little remarkable how many point* are abnost
barren of illustration. IL A.
^^Never ending, stiU beginning** ^ohym^i^ 109.).
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^ Like as it was with JBsopV damsel, tmmed
from a cat to a woman."] See Babrius, Fab. 32»
" Otherwise they maj saj, * Mnltum incola fait
anima mea.* "] Whence are these words bor-
rowed ?
Essay XXXIX. Of Custom and Education.—
See AtUith.y No. 1Q« voL viiL p. 3^9.
*' Only superstition is now so well advanced, that
men of the first blood are as firm as butchers bj
occupation, and votary resolution is made equi-
pollent to custom, even in matter of blood.**] This
IS an allusion to the Gunpowder Plot.
^The Indian wives strive to be burnt with the
corpse of their husbands.**] The practice of sut-
tee is of great antiquity. See Strabo, xv. 1. § 30.
62. ; Val. Max. ii. 6. 14.
" The lads of Sparta, of ancient time, were wont
to be scourged upon the altar of Diana, without so
much as quechingJ''] To queche here means to
squeak.
" Late learners cannot so well take the />/y."]
To take the ply is to bend according to the pres-
sure ; to be flexible and docile under instruction.
Essay XL. Of Fortune. — See Antith,^ No. 11.
vol. viii. p. 359.
" Serpens, nisi serpentem comederit, non fit
draco.**] What is the origin of this saying ?
The character of Cato the elder, cited from
Livy, is in xxxix. 40. ; but the words are quoted
memoritery and do not agree exactly with the ori-
ginal.
For tlie anecdote of Timotheus, see " N. & Q.,**
Vol. vii., p. 493.
Essay XLII. Of Youth and Age. — See Antith,,
No. 3. vol. viii. p. 355.
" Herraogenes the rhetorician, whose books are
exceedingly subtle, who afterwards waxed stupid.**]
Hermogenes of Tarsus, who lived in the reign of
Marcus Aurelius, wrote some able rhetorical works
while he was still a young man ; but at the age of
twenty -five fell into a state of mental imbecility,
from which he never recovered.
** Scipio Africanus, of whom Livy saith in effect,
• Ultima primis cedebant.* **] The allusion is to
Ovid, Heroid, ix. 23-4. :
** Ccepisti melius quam desinis : ultima primis
Cedunt : dissimiles hie vir et iile puer."
Essay XLIIL Of Beauty.— See Antith.^ No. 2.
Tol. viii. p. 354.
^ A man cannot tell whether Apelles or Albert
Durer were the more trifler; whereof the one
would make a personage by geometrical propor-
tions, the other by taking the best parts out of
divers faces to make one excellent.**j With re-
gard to Apelles, Lord Bacon probably alludes to
the story of Zeuxis in Cic. De Inv. it. 1.
*' Pulcrorum autumnus pulober.**] Query, What
is the source of this quotation P
EsssyXLVI. Of Gardens;-*
Many of the names ef plants in this Essay re-
quire illustration. GermiHngs appear to be broom,
irom genista i qttotffins are codlings, a speciee of
api>le ; wardens are a species of pear, concemmg
which see Hud8on*s Domestic Architecture of the
Thirteenth Century ^ p. 137. Buihces are explained
by Halliwell to be a small bl&ck and tartish plumt*
growing wild in some parts of the country.
" My meaning is perceived, that you may have
ver perpetuuniy as the place a£fords. ] The allu-
sion, probably, is to Virgil, Oeorg. ii. 149. :
*^ Hie ver assiduicm, atque altenis menslbiis antas.**
" Little low hedges, round, like welts, with some
pretty pyramids, I like welj.**] A welt was the
turned-over edge of a garment.
** Abeunt studia in mores.**] From Ovid*s
Epistle of Sappho to Phaon, JEp, xv. 83.
^^ Let him study the schoolmen, for they are
cymini sectores.""] The word KVf4,afoirpl(mis is ap-
plied in Aristot., JEih, Nic. iv. 3., to a miserly
person ; one who saves cheeseparings and candle^
ends.
Essay LII. Of Ceremonies and Respects. — See
Antitk y No. 34. vol. viii. p. 371.
" It doth much add to a man*s reputation, and
is (as Queen Isabella saith) like perpetual letters
commendatory, to have good forms.**] Query,
Which Queen Isabella was the author of this
saying P
Essay Lm. Of Praise. — See Antith.^ No. 10.
vol. viii. p. 858.
"Pessimum genus inimicorum laudantium.**]
From Tacit. Agric. c. 41., where the words are:
*' Pessimum inimicorum genus, laudantes.** Zatc-
dantium for laudantes in the text of Bacon is an
error.
Essay LIV. Of Vain-glory.— See iln^iYA., No. 19.
vol. viii. p. 364.
Essay L VI. Of Judicature. —
*^ Judges ought to remember that their office is
jus dicere, and not ju^ dare,''^^ Compare Aph. 44.
and 46., in the eighth book l)e Augmeniis» L.
BISHOP BURNET, H. WHARTON, ANI> SMITK.
The following curious piece of literary history
is quoted from pp. 145—147. of Smith*s De Be
Nummaria :
** But having thus owned the bishop's generosity, I
must next inform the reader what occasion I have to
make some complaint of hard usage, partly to myself,
but infinitely more to Dr. H. Wharton, and that after
his decease also. The matter of fact lies in this order.
After Ant Harmer had published his Specimen of
Errors to be found in the Bishop's History of th§ Bs"
formation, there was a person that frequented the
cofl^-boute where we met daily at Oxon, and who
166
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Pfo. 169.
his History of Henry VII. : " Like to eoppice-
woods, tbat, if j'ou te&ve in them itsddles too
thick, they will run to bushes and briars, and
hsTe little clean underwood " (vol. iii. p. 236,, ed.
MontBgu). The word ttaddle means an uncut tree
in a coppice, left to grow. Thus Tusaer says,
" Leave growing for staddlea the likest and best."
See Richardson in v., and Narea' Ohsaary in
Staddle, where other meaningB of the word are
explained.
"The device of King Henry VII."] See Lord
Bacon's HUlory, ib. p. 234.
"Nay, it Beemeth at this instant tliey [the
Spaniards] are sensible of this want of natives ;
aa by the Fr^matical Sanction, now published,
sppeareth."] To what law does Lord Bacon ol-
"Eomalus, after his death (as they report or
f^gn), sent a present to the Bomans, that above
all they should intend arms, and then tbey should
E-ove the greatest empire of the world."] See
ivy, i. 16., where Romulus is described as giving
this message to Proculus Julias. A similar mes-
sage is reported in Pint. Rom. 28.
"No man can by caretaking (as the Scripture
suth) add a cubit to his stature.^ See Matt. ti.
27.
Essay XXX. Of Regimen of Health. — See
AntOh., No. 4. vol. viii. p. 355.
Essay XXXI. Of Saspicion. — See Antith.,
No. 43. vol. viii. p. 377.
Essay XXXIL Of Discourse.—
"I knew two noblemen of the west part of
England," &c.] Query, Who are the nobloncD
referred to ?
Essay XXXIH. Of Plantations.--
" When the world was young it hegat more
children ; but now it is old it begets fewer."]
This idea is taken from the ancients. Thus Ln-
cretius :
" Sed quia gaem aliquam pariendi debrt habere,
Destitit, ut mulier spatio defessa vetusto."
V. 823-4,
" Consider likewise, what commoditieB the soil
where the plantation is doth naturally yield, that
they may some way help to defray uie charge
of the plantation ; so it be not, as was said, to the
dLtimely prejudice of the main business, at it halh
fared ivilh tobacco in Virgima."'] On the excessive
cnltivation of tobacco by the early colonists of
Virginia, see Grahame's Hialory of North Ame-
riea, vol. i. p. 67. King James's objection to to-
bacco is well known.
"But moil not too much underground."} This
old word, for to toil, to laboar, has now become
provincial.
"InranrijAandunwholesoijaegrounds."] Marith
is here used in its original sense, as the adjective of
mere. Spenser and Milton nse it as s substantive;
whence the word Trmrifi,
" It is the guikineea of blood of moiiy eoix-
miierable persons."] No instance of the word
commiaerahU is cited in the Dictionaries from any
other writer than Bacon.
Essay XXXIV. Of Ridies.— See AntUh., No. 6.
vol. viii. p. 356.
"In sudore vnltus alien!."] Gen. iii. 19.
"The fortune in being the first in an iDTeo*
tion, or in a privilege, doth cause sonietiiiiei a
wonderful overgrowth in riches, as it wax with tin
firat sngar-rnan in the Canaries."] When was (he
frowth of sugar introduced into the Canaries?
'o what does Bacon allude ? It does not appeir
that sugar is now grown in these islands ; nt Wt
it is enumerated among their imports, and traC
among their exports.
Essay XXXV. Of Prophecies.—
" Henry VI. of England said of Henry VII,
when he was a lad and gave him water, 'Thb ia
the lad that shall enjoy the crown for which we
strive.' "] Query, la this speech reported by my
earlier writer?
" When I was in Franco I heard from one Dr.
Pena, that the queen-mother, who was given to
curious arts, caused the king her husband's na-
tivity to be calculated under a false name, and
the astrologer gave a juiigment that he should be
killed in a du^ ; at which the queen laughed,
thinking her husband to be above chaltenfrea and
duels ; but he was slain upon a course at tilt, tie
splinlera of the staff of Montgomery goine in at his
beaver."] The king here alluded to is Henri II.,
who was killed at a tournament in ISS9 ; his queen
was Catherine de Medici. Bacon's visit to France
was in 1576-9 (Life, b^ Montagu, p. xri.J, dur-
ing the reign of Henri III., when Catherine of
Medici was queen-mother. Query, Is this pro-
phecy mentioned in any French writer P
" Octon;esimus octavus mirabilis annns."] Con-
cerning ^e prophecy which contained this verse,
see Bajle, Diet., art. Slower, note b i art. Bntaekita,
Essay XXXVn. Of Masques and Trionwhs.—
" The colours that show best by candlelignl are
white, carnation, and a kind of sea-water green ;
and oei, w apangs, as they are of no great cost, so
they are of most glory."f Mr. Markby says diat
Montagu and Spiers take the liberty of altering
the word oes to ouches. Halliwell, in his Die-
tionary, explaina oes to mean eyes, citing on;
manuscript esample. This would agree tolerably
with the sense of the passage before ns. (htches
would mean jVuie^s.
Essay XXXVm. Of Nature ia Men. — See
Antith., No. 10. vo!. viii. p. 439.
"Optimus iile animi vindex," &C.] "Dle-^
vindex " in Ovid. "
Axro. 2a 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIESL
167
'* Like as it was with Mse^p^s damsel, tmraed
from a cat to a woman."] See Babrius, Fab. 32»
" Otherwise iheymstj say, ' Maltum incola ftiit
anima mea.' "] Whence are these words bor-
rowed ?
Essay XXXIX. Of Custom and Education.—
See Antith,,, No. IQ. voL viiL p. 359.
'' Only superstition is now so well advanced, that
men of the first blood are as firm as butchers by
occupation, and votary resolution is made equi-
pollent to custom, even in matter of blood.**] This
IS an allusion to the Gunpowder Plot.
"■ The Indian wives strive to be burnt with the
corpse of their husbands."] The practice of sut-
tee h of great antiq«dty. See Strabo, xv. 1. § 30.
62. ; Val. Max, ii. 6. 14.
" The lads of Sparta, of ancient time, were wont
to be scourged upon the altar of Diana^ without so
much as queching,^''] To qmche here means to
squeak.
" Late learners cannot so well take the ^/y."]
To take the ply is to bend according to the pres-
sure ; to be flexible and docile under instruction.
Essay XL. Of Fortune. — See Antith.^ No. 11.
vol. viii. p. 359.
" Serpens, nisi serpentem comederit, non fit
draco."] What is the origin of this saying ?
The character of Cato the elder, cited from
Livy, is in xxxix. 40. ; but the words are quoted
memoriter^ and do not agree exactly with the ori-
ginal.
For the anecdote of Timotheus, see " N. & Q.,"
Vol. vii., p. 493.
Essay XLII. Of Youth and Age. — See Antith.,
No. 3. vol. viii. p. 355.
" Hermogenes the rhetorician, whose books are
exceedingly subtle, who afterwards waxed stupid."]
Hermogenes of Tarsus, who lived in the reign of
Marcus Aurelius, wrote some able rhetorical works
while he was still a young man ; but at the age of
twenty -five fell into a state of mental imbecility,
from which he never recovered.
'* Scipio Africanus, of whom Livy saith in effect,
•Ultima primis cedebant.' "] The allusion is to
Ovid, Heroid. ix. 23-4. :
" Ccepisti melius qu«m desinis : ultima primis
Cedunt : dissimiles hie vir et ille puer.'*
Essay XLIIL Of Beauty.— See Antith., No. 2.
Tol. viii. p. 354.
•* A man cannot tell whether Apelles or Albert
Dnrer were the more trifler; whereof the one
would make a personage by geometrical propor-
tions, the other by taking the best parts out of
divers faces to make one exceUent."j With re-
^gard to Apelles, Lord Bacon probably alludes to
the story of Zeuxis in Cic. De Inv, ii. 1.
•' Pttlcrorum autnmnus puloher."] Query, What
is the Mmree of this quotation ?
Es8«yXLVI. Of Gardens:—
Many of the names of plants in this Essay re-
quire illustration. Oennitings appemr to be broom,
from genista; qtio^ins are codlings, a species of
apple ; wardens are a species of pear, concerning
which see Hudson*s Domestic Architecture of the
Thirteenth Century, p. 137. Bultaces are explained
by Halliwell to be a small black and tartish plum^
growing wild in some parts of the country.
" My meaning is perceived, that you may have
ver perpetuuntj as the place affords. ] The allu-
sion, probably, is to Virgil, Georg, ii. 149. :
*^ Hie ver asuduma, atqoe altenis mensibiis aestao.**
" Little low hedges, round, like welts, with soBae
pretty pyramids, I like well."] A twft was the
turned-over edge of a garment.
** Abeunt studia in mores.**2 From Ovid's
Epistle of Sappho to Phaon, Ep, xv. 83.
" Let him study the schoolmen, for they arc
cymini sectores.**'] The word KVfjLiuoirpi<rrris is ap-
plied in Aristot., JEth, Nic. iv. 3.^ to a miserly
person ; one who saves cheeseparings and candle^
ends«
Essay LII. Of Ceremonies and Bespects. — See
Antith, No. 34. vol. viii. p. 371.
" It doth much add to a man's reputation^ and
is (as Queen Isabella saith) like perpetual letters
commendatory, to have good forms."] Query,
Which Queen Isabella was the author of this
saying P
Essay LIEI. Of Praise. — See ATUiih,, No. 10.
vol. viii. p. 358.
"Pessimum genus inimiccMmm laudantium."]
From Tacit. Agric. c. 41., where the words are:
*' Pessimum inimicorum genus, laudantes." Zau^
dantium for laudantes in the text of Bacon is an
error.
Essay LIV. Of Vain-glory. — See Antith.^ No. 1 9»
vol. viii. p. 364.
Essay L VI. Of Judicature. —
"Judges ought to remember that their office is
jv^ dicere, and not jv^ dare.^^'] Compare Aph. 44.
and 46., in the eighth book be Augmentis, L.
BISHOP SUBNET, H. WHABTON, KSI^ SMUK.
The following curious piece of literary history
is quoted from pp. 145 — 147. of Smith's Ih Me
Nummaria :
" But having thus owned the bishop's generosity, I
must next inform the reader what occasion I have to
make some complaint of hard usage, partly to myself,
but infinitely more to Dr. H. Wharton, and that »fter
his decease also. The matter of fact lies ia this order.
After Ant Harmer had published his Specimen of
Errors to be found in the Bishop's History of th* JU'
fonmation, there was a person that frequented the
cofifee-bouie where we met daily at Oxod^ and who
168
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 19gf.
afterwards became a prelate In Scotland, that was con-
tinually running dotvn that History for the errors dis-
covered in it, many of which are not very material, and
might in so large a work have been easily pardoned ;
and in order to obtain such a pardon, I acquainted his
Lordship with some more considerable errata to be
found in the first volume of Anglia Sacra, out of which
I had drawn up as many mistakes as I could possibly
meet with, and had descanted upon them, as far as I
was able, in the same method Ant. Harmer had drawn
up his, and without acquainting the Bishop who was
the author, sent them up to his Lordship with license,
if he thought fitting, to print them. But when the
collection was made, I had prefixed a letter to his
Lordship, and next an epistle to the reader. In the
former it was but fitting to compliment his Lordship,
but the latter was altogether as large a commendation
of Dr. Wharton's skill, diligence, and faithfulness in
viewing and examining the records of our English
church history. The disgust that this last gave his
Lordship obliged him to stifle the whole tract ; but yet
he was pleased to show part of it to many by way, as
I suppose, of excuse or answer for his own mistakes ;
but as I take it, after the Doctor's decease, he made it
an occasion of foully bespattering him as a man of no
'Credit, and all he had writ in that Specimen was fit to
go for nothing ; which practice of his lordship, after I
came to read both in the preface and introduction to
his third volume, I was amazed at his injustice both to
the living and the dead. For I had acquainted his
Lordship that the faults were none of Dr. Wharton's
own making, who had never seen the MS. itself, but
only some exscript of it, writ by some raw and illiterate
person employed by some of his Oxford friends to send
him a copy of it. I once threatened my Lord Bishop's
son that I had thoughts of publishing this and some
other facts the Bishop had used to avoid the discovery
of some other errata communicated to him by other
hands; but I forbore doing so, lest I should seem. un-
grateful for kindnesses done and offered to me."
E. H. A.
« * I shall not give you ray name,* 4S. Stamper's
Alley."
" What you please,' 49. Market Street."
In the errata are the following :
" For Cross Woman read Cross Widow.**
« For Cox Cats read Cox Cato.**
The alphabetical arrangement of a Directory is
as great a leveller as the grave. In the Directory
for 1798, after —
« Dennis, Mr., Tai/Ior, Pewter Platter Alley.**
appears the following :
** Dorleans, Messrs., Merchants, near 100. South
Fourth Street.**
These were Louis Philippe an(! one of his brothers,
who lived at the north-west corner of Fourth and
Princes Streets, in a house still standing, and now
numbered 110.
Talleyrand and Volney lived for some time in
Philadelphia ; but, not being house -keepers, their
names do not appear in any of the Directories.
Uneda.
Philadelphia.
EARLY PHILADELPHIA DIBECTORIES.
The first Philadelphia Directories were published
in the year 1785, when two appeared : Wnite*s and
M'Pherson's. The latter is a duodecimo volume
of 164 pages, and contains some things worth
making a note of.
Some persons do not seem to have compre-
hended the object of the inquiries made of the
inhabitants as to their names and occupations ;
supposing, perhaps, that they had some connexion
with taxation. The answers given by such are
put down in the Directory as the names of the
respondents. Thus :
« * I won't tell you,* S: Maiden's Lane.**
« * I won't tell it,' 15. Sugar Alley."
" * I won't tell you my name,' 160. New Market
Street."
« * I won't have it numbered,* 478. Green Street."
" < I won't tcU my name,' 185. St. John's Street."
SQAK8PEARE CORRESPONDENCE.
Shakspeare Readings, No. X, — " Sheer^^ versus
" Warwick-sheer,^^ — At page 143. of Notes and
Emendations^ Mr. Collier mdulges in the following
reverie : —
" Malone did not know what to make of * sheer
ale,' but supposed that it meant sheering or reaping ale,
for so reaping is called in Warwickshire. What does
it mean ? It is spelt sheere in the old copies ; and that
word begins one line, Warwick having undoubtedly
dropped out at the end of the preceding line. . . .
It was formerly not at all unusual to spell * shire *
sheere ; and Siy's * sheer ale * thus turns out to have
been Warwickshire ale, which Shakspeare celebrated,
and of which he had doubtless often partaken at Mrs.
Hacket's. We almost wonder that, in his local parti-
cularity, he did not mention the sign of her house," &c.
The meaning of sheer ale was strong ale — that
which we now call " entire " — ale unmixed, un-
reduced, unmitigated — the antithesis of that
" smaU ale," for a pot of which poor Sly begged
so hard, sinking his demand at last to " a pot o the
smallest ale." If Christopher lived in our own
times, he might, on common occasions, indulge in
small; but for great treats he would have Barclay's
entire : and, mstead of bullying Dame Hacket
about " sealed quarts," he would perhaps, in these
educated days, be writing to The Times under the
signature of " A Thirsty Soul." Sly evidently was
rather proud of underlying a score of fourteen-
pence for sheer ale.
Let us hear in what sense old Phil. Holland, in
Precepts of Healthy uses the word :
<* And verily water (not that onely wherewith wine
is mingled^ but also which is drunke betweene whiles,
Aug. 20. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
169
apart by itselfe) causeth the wine tempered therewith
to doe the lesse harme : in regard whereof, a student
ought to use himseife to drinke twice or thrice every
day a draught of sheere water/' &c.
Here "sheere water" is put in apposition to
that with which " wi7ie is mingled; " the meaning
of sheer, therefore, is integer: and sheer milk
would be milk before it goes to the pump.
But perhaps it will be objected that sheer, ap-
plied to water, as in this place, may mean clear,
bright, free from foulness. Well, then, here is
another example from Fletcher's Double Marriage^
where Castruccio is being tantalised after the
fashion of the Governor of Barataria :
**Cast. (tastes.) Why, what is this? Why, Doctor I
Doctor, Wine and water,, sir. *Tis sovereign for your
heat : you must endure it.
Villio. Most excellent to cool your night-piece, sir 1
Doctor. You*re of a high and choleric complexion,
and must have allays.
Cast. Shall I have no sheer wine then ? **
The step from this to sheer ale is not very
difficult.
It may be remarked that, at present, we apply
several arbitrary adjectives, in this sense of sheer,
to different liquors. Thus, to spirits we apply
" raw," to wines and brandy " neat," to malt drink
"stout" or "strong;" and then we reduce to
"half and half," until at length we come to the
very "small," a term which, like other lowly
things, seems to have been permitted to endure
from its very weakness. A. E. B.
Leeds.
" Clamour your tongues^^ ^c. — '
" Clamour your tongues, and not a word more."
Wint. Tale, Act IV. Sc. 4.
Notwithstanding the comments upon this word
clamour, both in the pages of " N. & Q," and by
the various editors of Shakspeare, I have not yet
seen anything that appears to my mind like a
satisfactory elucidation.
Gifford, not being able to make anything of the
word, proposed to read charm, which at all events
is plausible, though nothing more. Nares says the
word is in use among bell-ringers, though now
shortened to clam. Unfortunately the meaning
attached to the term by the ringers is at variance
with that of clamour in the text ; for to clam the
bells is what we should now call putting them on
sette or setting them, and this is but preparatory
to a general crash: still it is possible that the
words may be the same.
Mb. Aubowsmith (Vol. vii., p. 567.) maintains
the genuineness of clamour in preference to charm;
and, without a word of comment, quotes two pas-
sages from UdalFs translation of Erasmus his
Apothegms — "oneless hee chaumbreed his tongue,"
&c. ; and again — " did he refrein or chaumbre
the tauntying of his tongue." I confess I cannot
fathom Mb. Abbow8mith*s intention ; for the
obvious conclusion to be drawn from these quota-
tions is, that charm, and not clamour, is an abbre-
viation of the older word chaumbre,
I am very much inclined to think that the verb
in question comes directly from the A.-S. We
find the word clam or clom — a bond, that which
holds or retains, a prison ; in the latter form the
word is frequently used, and for the use of the
former in the same sense Bosworth quotes Boe-
thius (Kawlinson's ed., Oxon. 1698, p. 152.), which
work I am unable to consult. From these words,
then, we have clommian, clcemian, &c., to bind or
restrain. It seems not very unlikely that from
this original came Shakspeare's word clammer or
clamour, I may add that Skinner explains the
word clum by a note of silence, quoting " Chaucer
in fab. Molitpris " (I have no copy of Chaucer at
this moment within reach) ; and in the A.-S. we
find clumian, to keep close, to press, to mutter,
comprimere, mussitare : all these words probably
have the same root.
An instance of the use of the word clame or
clamour is to be found in a work entitled The
Castel of Helthe ; gathered and made by Syr
Thomas Elyot, Knight, SfC. ; printed by Thomas
Berthelet: London, 1539 (black-letter). At p. 52*
is the following :
" Nauigation or rowynge nigh to the laude, in a
clame water, is expedient for them that haue dropsies,
lepries, palseyes, called of the vulgar people, takynges,
and francies. To be carried on a rough water, it is a
violent exercise," &c.
H. C. K.
Rectory, Hereford.
Shakspeare Suggestions (Vol. viii., p. 124.). —
Icon asks — "Has any one suggested 'Most
busy, when least I do.' The ' it ' seems mere sur-
plusage ? "
The same suggestion, nearly verbatim, even to
the curtailment of the " it," may be found in this
present month's number of Blackwood's Magazine,
p. 186.
But Icon will also find the same reading, with
an anterior title of nearly three years, together with
some good reasons for its adoption, in " N. & Q.,"
Vol. ii., p. 338. And he may also consult with ad-
vantage an illustrative quotation in Vol. iii., p. 229.
In the original suggestion in " N. & Q.," there
is no presumption of surplusage : the word " it " is
understood in relation to labours ; that word being
taken as a collective singular, like contents, and
other words of the same construction.
The critic in Black wopd disclaims consulting
" N. & Q. ; " and it is, no doubt, a convenient dis-
claimer. He follows the herd of menstrual Aris-
tarchi, by hailing, with wondering admiration, the
substitution of ethics for checks ! And he shows
his fitness for the task he has undertaken, by stat-
NOTES AND QUEEIEa
[No. IMl
inf tlikt " Mr. Siiiger aU»e IimI tlie good Uate to
print it (etkica) in bit text «f 1 836."
Mr. H>lUvcell, fcowerer, ia ■ rocent pamphlet,
states tliat —
** Tbia jKw tmatdatimt hn not onl; been meotioned
in ■ jcmt Tarietv of editioaiT but tua bem introduced
hita On ttxt bf no f<mr titm fiet edilort, the fint, I
believe, in point of time, being the llei. J. liaon, irbo
■abMitnled ttluei into tbe text u early u 1T8T.'
A, E. B.
Critic^ Digeit. — Your readers huve seen
no more welcome anDouncement than that con-
tauned in p. T5. of your present volume, that this
C'DJect of a worlc, bringing into one view the
hours of preeeilintt editors and comment»lor», is
in good hands and likely to be brought to bear.
On the form of such a work it is perhaps prema-
ture to offer an observation ; bat, to be perfect, it
ought to range with that remarkable monument
of a lady's patient industry, Mrs. Cowdeo Clarke's
Concordance. On the materiaU to be employed,
all your readers have such an interest in the sub-
ject as to warrant them in making suggestions ;
and it will be well to do so before the plana are
fiilly matured.
It ounht, in my opinion, to be more compre-
heoure flian even the largest scheme suggested by
your correspondent ; for, in addition to the com-
ments wbicD may be thought most worthy of inser-
tion in full, or nearly so, it ought to contain at least
a referenee to every known comment, in the alighl«Bt
degree worthy of notice, in relation to any passage
in the work. To accomplish this would of course
be a work of enormous labour, and the object of
the present Note is to suggest as a first step, the
circulation of a list of works intended to be con-
sulted, for the purpose of inviting additions ; not
that such a list should encumber the pages of
"H. &Q.," but I am much mistaken if you would
not afibi^ facilities for receiving tt
tioni aaked for. This course is the i
inasmuch as, in addition to works
MToly on the subject of Shakspeare, there is a
TMt amount of Shakspearian criticism spread over
works, the titles of which give no indication of the
noceiaity for consulting them. For instance, up-
wards of two hundred pages of Coleridge's Literary
Seaatnt are so employea ; and though, perhaps,
llie work is so well known that it would have
ftnnd a place in the first copy of the list I have
BOggested, it may serve aa an illustration of the
■ort of information which it would be desirable to
inTite. J. F, M.
narrmng a
it then oocorred to me, tiiat it wodd be catioa
to collect in like manner a cofBjrfete list of Iha
sentences, which, as is well known to atudenttef
history, the Emperors of Germany were aocot-
tomed to assume at their coronations, A reoMt
risit to Frankfort has given me an opportMMJty of
making and sending you such a Ibt Tbe mato^
are collected from inscri^ons on a aeries of kn-
perial portraits which adbim the principal i liaai
ber in the Bomer or town hall of that city. jHm
list, if it have no oilier interest, will al least Bern
to remind us that some of the Latin aphorism* aad
"wise saws" current among us now, have bea
doing duty in the same capacity for centuriei:
Conrad I, 911. (Franconia.) Fortttiut cam Hn-
ditarfaHit.
Henry I. 91B. (Saiony.) Advin([ietamtardw,ed
beneficentiam velox.
Otho I. (The Great.) 93G. (Saxony.) SaHn* tH
ratione aqaitalU mortem oppetere, qttamfugattl
inhoneita vivere.
Saxony.) Cunt omttihtu paeem;
beilum.
Otho III. 983. (Saxony.) FacOe tingvla rwH-
pjaiurjaeulaq non eonjuwla.
Henry II. 1002. (Bavaria.) Niha imperue amtt,
ita fiet vC 171 nuUo contrialeril.
Ccnrad II. 1024. (Franconia.) Ouutium vwru,
imprimis obiervato.
•Henry III. 1039. (Franconia.) QaiHtema^M;
exeerationem in benedictionem mviat.
Henry IV. 1056. (Franconia.) MuitinmltatawU,
Henry V. 1106. (Fi
I was much interested in the listi given in
"N. &Q." last year of the nottos adopted by
,) Miter qui morUn
1125. (Saxony.) Audi alleram partem.
Conrad HI. 1137. (Swabia.) Paucaaimaliis,mxia
tecum lomiere.
Frederick!. (Barbarossa.) 1 152. (Swabia.) Pra-
habet artem, nee novit loguendi.
Philip. 1197. (Swabia.) Qaod male ctEptmn eti,
Tie pudeat muta»se.
OthoIV. 1208. (Brunswick.) Sb-epU eouer inter
Frederick H. 1218. (Swabia.) Complurimim
TArionitn, ego ttrepilum audiri.
1250—1272. Qrmid interregnum. (See Hallara,
Middle Ages, eh. v.)
Rodulph of Hapsburgh. 1273. MeVitu hem im-
perare guam imperiiirn ampliare.
• Hallnm sajs, that the imperial prerogntive nevei
Teacbed so high ■ point as in the reign of thiamonanh.
The tuccnsion to the throne appears to btrre bam
regiTded as hereditaiy; imrt a very efficient oantnil
ptMsrved by th» empenn over the usually i>wbar£-
Aug. 20. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEIE&
171
Adolphus. 1291. (Nassau.)
Albert I. 1298. (Austria.) Fvgam victoria nescit.
Henry VII. 1308. (Luxemburg.) Calicem mtm
dedisti mihi in mortem.*
Louis IV. 1314. (Bavaria.)
Charles IV. 1347. (Bohemia.)
Wenceslaus. 1378. (Bohemia.)
Robert. (Count Palatine.) 1400. Misericordia
non caiisam, sedfortujiam spectat.
Sigismund. 1411. (Luxemburg.) Mala vitro ad-
sunt,
Albert IL 1438. (f Austria, House of Hapsburgh.)
Amicus optimcs vitce possession
Frederick III. 1440. AustricB imperare orbi ttm-
verso.
Maximilian L 1493. Tene mensuram et respice
finem.
Charles V. 1519. Plus ultra,
Ferdinand I. 155S. Fiat justiHa^et per eat mundus,
Maximilian H. 1564. Deus providebit,
Rodolph II. 1576. Fidget Ccesaris astrum,
Matthew. 1612. Concordi lumitie major,
Ferdinand II. 1619. Legitime certantibus.
Ferdinand III. 1637. Pietate etjustitia.
Leopold I. 1657. Consilio et industrid,
Joseph I. 1705. Amore et timore,
Charles VI. 1711. Constantid et /ortitudine,
Charles VIL 1742.
Francis I. 1745. Pro Deo et imperio.
Joseph II. 1765. Virtiite et exemplo.
Leopold II. 1790. Opes regum^ corda subditorum.
Francis II. 1792. Lege etfide,
I have added, by way of rendering the catalogue
more complete, the name of the particular family
of German princes, for which each emperor was
selected. A glance at these names furnishes a
remarkable illustration of an observation of Sis-
mondi :
*' That the great evil of an elective monarchy, is the
continual struggle on the part of the rulers to make it
hereditary.*'
It is scarcely necessary to remind your readers,
that the integrity of Charlemagne's empire was
preserved until the deposition of Charles the Fat ;
that France and Germany did not become sepa-
rate until after that event ; and that Conrad was,
therefore, the first of the German sovereigns, as
he was certainly the first elected by the confede-
rate princes. Joshua G. Fitch.
♦ At the death of Henry, Frederick the son of
Albert disputed Louis's election, alleging that he had
a majority of genuine votes. He assumed the motto,
Beatd morte nihil beatius,
f All the succeeding princes were of this family.
POEMS BT MISS DELAVAL.
If the accompanying soi^ have not been
printed before, they may perhaps be worth pre-
serving. They were written and set to music by
a highly nccomplished lady, the daughter of Ed-
ward Hussey Delaval, Esq., the last of his name
and race, sometime Fellow of Pembroke College,
Cambridge ; the cotemporary of Gray and Mason,
and well known for his literary and scientific at-
tainments :
** Where the murm'ring streams meander,
Where the sportive zephyrs play,
Whilst in sylvan shades I wander,
Softly steal the hours away.
I nor splendor crave nor treasure.
Calmer joys my bosom knows ;
Smiling days of rural pleasure.
Peaceful nights of soft repose.**
** Oh Music, if thou hast a charm.
That may the sense of pain disarm,
Be all thy tender tones address'd
To soothe to peace my Anna's breast,
And bid the magic of thy strain
To still the throb of wakeful pain ;
That, rapt in the delightful measure.
Sweet hope again may whisper pleasure,
And seem the notes of spring to hear,
Prelusive to a happier year.
And if thy magic can restore,
The shade of days that smile no more,
And softer, sweeter colors give
To scenes that in remembrance live.
Be to her pensive heart a friend ;
And whilst the tender shadows blend.
Recall, ere the brief trace be lost.
Each moment that siie priz'd the most."
E. n. A.
§Siixmx fiaM.
The Rights of Women. — Single women, ifho
were freeholders, voted in the State of New Jersey
as late as the year 1800. In a newspaper of that
date is a complimentary editorial to the female
voters for having unanimously supported Mr.
John Adams (the defeated candidate) for Presi-
dent of the United States, in opposition to Mr.
Jefferson, who was denounced as wanting in
religion. Unbda..
Philadelphia.
Green Pots used for drinking from by Members
of the Temple. — During the summer of 1849, when
the new part of Paper Buildings in the Temple
was being built, the workmen, in making the ne-
cessary excavations, dug up a great number of
pots or cups, which are supposed to have been
used for drinking from by the students. I have
recently met with the following letter from Sir
172
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 199:
Julius Caesar to Sir W. More, whicli may be in-
teresting to some of your readers :
** After my hartie commendac*ons, &c. Whereas in
tymes past the bearer hereof hath had out of the Parke
of Farnham, belonging to the Bishoprickc of Winches-
ter, certaine white clay for the making of grene potts
usually drunk in by the gentlemen of the Temple, and
nowe understandinge of some restraint thereof, and that
you (amongst others) are authorized there in divers re-
spects during the vacancye of the said Bishopricke;
my request, therefore, unto you is, and the rather for
that I am a member of the said house, that you would
in favo' of us all p*mytt the bearer hereof to digge and
carrie away so muche of the said claye as by him shalbe
thought sufficient for the furnishinge of the said house
w*^ grene potts aforesaid, paying as he hath heretofore
for the same. In accomplishment whereof myself with
the whole societie shall acknowledge o'selves much be-
holden unto you, and shalbe readie to requite you at
. all times hereafter w^** the like pleasure. And so I bid
you moste hear til ie farewel.
•* Inner Temple, this xix*'' of August, 1591.
'* To the right worshipful Sir W*m More, Knight,
geve these."
This letter is printed in the Losely Manuscripts^
p. 311. B.
Bristol.
Quarles and Pascal, — In Quarles' Emblems^
book i. Emblem vi., there is a passage :
** The world's a seeming paradise, but her own
And man's tormentor ;
Appearing fixed, yet but a rolling stone
Without a tenter ;
It is a vast circumference where none
Can find a centre,**
And Pascal, in one of his Pensees^ says :
'* Le monde est une sphere infinie, dont le centre est
partout, la circonference nuUe part.**
Here we have two propositions, which, whether
taken separately, or opposed to each other, would
seem to contain nothing but paradox or contradic-
tion. And yet I believe they are but different
modes of expressing the same thing.
Henbt H. Bbeen.
St. Lucia.
•
Offer to intending Editors. — I had hoped that
some one would accept Mb. Cbossley*s offer of
Ware's MS. notes for a new edition of Poxes and
Firebrands. I myself will with pleasure contri-
bute a copy of the book to print from (assuming
that it will be properly executed), and also of his
much rarer Coursing of the Bomish Pox, which
should form part of the volume.
If any one is disposed to edit the works of Dr.
John Rogers, the sub-dean of Wells, I will, with
the same pleasure, supply his Address to the
Quakers, of which I possess Mr. Brand's copy,
which he has twice marked as extra rare; and
Rodd, from whom I purchased it, had never seen
another copy. The entire works might be com-
prised in two volumes octavo.
It is to be regretted that Mr. Flintoff has not
yet published Wallis's Sermons on the Trinity, to
accompany his excellent edition of Wallis's Letters,
1840. Would it not be possible to obtain so many
names as would defray the expense of printinor ?
S. Z, ij, s..
Head-dress. — The enormous head-dresses worn
in the time of Charles I. gave rise to the follow-
ing lines :
" Hoc magis est instar tecti quam tegminis ; hoc noir
Ornare est ; hoc est aedificare caput.**
Clebicus (D.y
PoX'hunting, — Can any of your correspondents:
inform me, when the great national sport of fox-
hunting first came into vogue P
Gervase Markham, whose work on sports, called.
Country Contentments, or the Husbandman* s Recre-
ations, was published in 1654, gives due honour ta
stag-hunting, which he describes as " the most
princely and royall chase of all chases." Speaking
of hare-hunting, he says, " It is every honest manV
and good man's chase, and which is indeed the
freest, readiest, and most enduring pastime ;" but
he classes the hunting of the fox and the badger
together, and he describes them as " Chases of a
great deal lesse use or cunning than any of the
former, because they are of a much hotter scent^
and as being intituled stinking scents, and not
sweet scents."
Although he does admit that this chase may be
profitable and pleasant for the time, insomuch as^
there are not so many defaults, but a continuing,
sport ; he concludes, " I will not stand much upon
them, because they are not so much desired as the
rest." R. W. B.
Broderie Anglaise, — Being a young lady whose-
love for the fine arts is properly modified by a
reverence for antiquity, I am desirous to know
whether the present fashionable occupation of the
" Broderie Anglaise," being undoubtedly a revival^
is however traceable (as is alleged) to so remote &
period as the days of Elizabeth ? Sabah Anna..
" The Convent,''* cm Elegy, — Among the works
ascribed to the Abbe FranQois Arnaud, a member
of the French Academy, who died in 1784, there
is one entitled, Le Couvent, Elegie iraduite de
V Anglais, What is the English poem here alluded
to ? IlENBr H. Bbeen.
St Lucia.
Memorial of Newton, — The subscription now
in progress for raising a statue to Sir Isaac Newton
Aug, 20. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
173
at Grantham, the place of his early education,
recalls to my recollection a memorial of him, about
which I may possibly learn a few particulars from
•some one of the numerous readers of " N. & Q."
I remember hearing when a school-boy at the
college, Grantham, some thirty-five years ago, that
Newton's name, cut by himself on a stone in the
recess of one of the windows of the school-house,
was to be seen there no long time back ; but that
the stone, or the portion of it which contained the
name, had been cut out by some mason at a time
when the building was being repaired, and was in
the possession of a gentleman then living in the
largest house in Grantham — built, I believe, by
Mmself. Those of your readers who knew Gran-
tham at the time, will not need to be told the
name of the gentleman to whom I allude. The
■questions I would wish to ask are these :
1. Was such a stone to be seen, as described,
«ome forty or fifty years since ?
2. Is it true that it was removed in the way
that I have stated ?
3. If so, in whose possession is the stone at this
present time ? M. A.
Mammon, — Perhaps some of your readers could
refer me to some work containing information in
Teference to the following allegation of Barnes, on
Matt. vi. 24. :
<* Mammon b a Syriac word, a name given to an idol
worshipped as the god of riches* It has the same mean-
ing as Plutus among the Greeks. It is not known that
•the Jews even formally worshipped this idol, but they
•used the word to denote wealth."
My question relates to the passages in Italics.
Derivation of WeUesley. — In a note to the
lately published Autobiographic Sketches of Thomas
T)e Quincey, I find (p. 131.) the following passage :
'< It had been always known that some relationship
•existed between the Wellesleys and John Wesley.
Their names bad in fact been originally the same ; and
the Duke of Wellington himself, in the earlier part of
Jiis career, when sitting in the Irish House of Com-
mons, was always known to the Irish journals as
Captain Wesley. Upon this arose a natural belief,
Ihat the aristocratic branch of the house had improved
the name into Wellesley. But the true process of
change had been precisely the other way. Not Wesley
bad been expanded into Wellesley, but inversely, Wel-
Jesley had been contracted by household usage into
Wesley, The name must have been Wellesley in its
earliest stage, since it was founded upon a connexion
with Wells Cathedral."
May I ask what this connexion was, and whence
the authority for the statement ? Had the illus-
trious Duke*s adoption of his title from another
town in Somersetshire anything to do with it ?
J.M.
Cranwells, Bath.
1
The Battle of Cruden — A Query for CopeU'
hagen Correspondents, — In the year 1059, in the
reign of Malcolm III., king of Scotland, a battle
was fought on the Links of Cruden, in the county
of Aberdeen, between the Danes and the Scots,
in which the Prince Royal, who commanded the
Danish forces, was slain. He was buried on the
field, near to which, according to the custom of
the times. King Malcolm " biggit ane kirk." This
church was overblown with sand, and another
built farther inland, which is the present parish
church. To the churchyard wall there leans a
black marble gravestone, about 7 ft. X 3 ft. 6 in.,
which is said to have been sent from Denmark as
a monument for the grave of his royal highness.
The stone has the appearance of considerable an-
tiquity about it, and appears to have been inlaid
with marble, let into it about half an inch ; the
marks of the iron brads, and the lead which se-
cured it, are still visible.
" Tradition says it did from Denmark come,
A monument the king sent for his son."
And it is also stated that, until within the last
hundred years, a small sum of money was annually
sent by the Danish government to the minister of
Cruden for keeping the monument in repair. I
should be glad to learn if there are any documents
among the royal archives at Copenhagen, which
would invalidate or substantiate the popular tra-
dition. Abbedonemsis..
Ampers and (Iff or &). — I have heard this
symbol called both ampers and and apusse and.
Which, if either, is the correct term ; and what is
its derivation ? C. Mansfield Ikgleby,
Birmingham.
TTie Myrtle Bee. — I should feel much obliged
to any reader of " N. & Q." who would answer
the following questions respecting the bird called
the Myrtle Bee ; separating carefully at the same
time the result of his personal experience from any
hearsay evidence that he may have collected on
the subject. In what places in the British Isles
has the bird been seen ? During what months ?
Is it gregarious, or solitary ? What are its haunts
and habits, and on what does it feed ? What is
its colour, shape, and size ? Its mode of flight ?
Does any cabmet contain a preserved specimen,
and has any naturalist described or figured it
either as a British or a foreign bird ?
W. R. D. Salmon.
Birmingham.
Henry Earl of Wotton, — Jan van Kerckhove,
Lord of Kerkhoven and Heenvliet, who died at
Sassenheim, March 7, 1660, married Catherine
Stanhope, daughter of the Earl of Chesterfield ;
and had issue Charles Henry, who in 1659 was
chief magistrate of Breda, and was created Earl
174
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[No. 199.
of Wotton by the king of England. Could any
of your readers favour me with the date of the
above marriage, as also those of the birth of
the father and the son ; as well as that of the
elevation of the latter to the peerage of Bfhgland ?
— From the Navorscher. A. I.
Connexion hetiveen the Celtic and Latin Lan^
guages. — Can any of your correspondents supply
any links of connexion between the Celtic and
Latin languages ? M.
Queen Anne's Motto, — What authority have we
for asserting that "Semper eadem" was Queen
Anne*s motto, and that it expired with her ?
Cleric us (D.)
Anonymous Books. — Can any of the readers of
" N. & Q." furnish the names of the authors of
either of the following works ?
1. The Watch ; an Ode, humbly inscribed to the
Right Hon. the Earl of M— f— d. To which is added,
the Genius of America to General Carleton, an Ode.
liondon : J. Bew, 1778. 4to.
2. Fast Sermon, preached at — — Feb. 10th, 1779,
by the Reverend ; showing the Tyranny
and Oppression of the British King and Parliament
respecting the American Colonies. Inscribed to the
Congress. 8vo. (^Sine loco aut anno. An ironical
Piece, severe on America.)
3. National Prejudice opposed to the National In-
terest ; candidly considered in the Detention or Yield-
hig up Gibraltar' and Cape Breton, by the ensuing
Treaty of Peace, &c. In a Letter to Sir John Bernard.
London : W. Owen, 1748. 8vo,
4. The Blockheads; or Fortunate Contractor. An
Opera, in Two Acts, as it was performed at New York,
&c. Printed at New York. London : reprinted for
G. Kearsley, 1783. 12rao.
5. The Present State of the British Empire in
Europe, America, Asia, and Africa, &c. : London,
1768, 8vo., pp. 486.
Who prepared the chapters on America in this
volume f Sbrviens.
Major Andre. — A subscriber having observed
the amount of valuable and recondite information
elicited by a happy Query concerning General
Wolfe, hopes to obtain like success in one he now
puts forward in regard to the personal history, &c.
of the unfortunate Major John Andre, who was
•hung by the Americans as a spy during their
Revolutionary War. Being engaged upon a bio-
graphy of Major Andre, he has already collected
considerable matter ; but wishes to leave no stone
unturned in his task, and therefore begs his bre-
thren of " N. & Q." to publish therein any anec-
dotes or copies of any letters or documents con-
cerning that gallant but ill-fated gentleman. A
reference to passages occurring in printed books
bearing on this subject, might also well be given ;
for there is so little known about Major Andre,
and that little scattered piecemeal in so many and
various localities, that it is hardly possible some of
them should not have escaped this writer's notice.
Seryiens.
[Smith's Authentic Narrative of Major Andre, 8vo,
1808, has most probably been consulted by our cor-
respondent. There is a good account of the Major in
vol. ii. of the Biographical Dictionary of the Useful
Knowledge Society, and it is worth consulting for the
authorities quoted at the end of the article. See also
the Eneyclopcedia Americana, article *' Benedict Ar-
nold; ** the American Whig Review, vol. v. p. 381.;
New England Magazine, vol. vi. p. 353. ; and for a vin-
dication of the captors of Andr6, the Analectie Maga-
zine, vol. x. p. 307, Articles also will be found re-
specting him in Gentleman's Magazine, vol. 1. pp. 540.
610. ; vol. li. p. 320. ; vol. lii. p. 514. Major Andr^ is
one of the principal subjects of The British Hero w
Captivity, a poem attributed to Mr. Puddicombe, 4to.
1782.]
" The Fatal Mistake,''^ — Can you tell me where
the scene of the following play is laid, and the
names of the dramatis personce : The Fatal Mistake,
a Tragedy, by Joseph Haynes, 4to., 1696?
The author of this play, who was known by the
name of Count Haynes, was an actor in the theatre
at Drury Lane about the time of James II., and
died in 1701. There is an account of his life
written by Tom Browne. Gw.
[The title-page of A Fated Mistake states that it was
written by Jos. Hayns ; but according to the Biog,
Dramatica, it is not certain that Count Haines was
the author. The dramatis personce are : Men, Duke,
Duke of Schawden's ambassador, Rodulphus, Baldwin,
Eustace, Ladovick, Albert, Godfrey, Amulph, Fre-
derick, Welpho, Conradine, Gozelo, Lewis, Ferdi«
nando. Women, Duchess Gertruedo, Lcbassa, de-
mentia, Idana, Thierrie, Maria, Lords and Ladies,
Masquers, Soldiers.]
Anonymous Plays, —
1. A Match for a Widow ; or, the Frolics of Fancy.
A Comic Opera, in Three Acts, as performed at the
Theatre Royal, Dublin. - London : C. Dilly, 1788.
8vo.
2. The Indians ; a Tragedy. Performed at the
Theatre Royal, Richmond. London : C. Dilly, 1790.
8vo.
3. Andr6 ; a Tragedy in Five Acts, as now per-
forming at the Theatre in New York. To which is
added the Cow Chase ; a Satirical Poem, by Major
Andre. With the Proceedings of the Court Martial,
and authentic Documents concerning him. London :
Ogilvy & Son, 1799. 8vo.
Sebyibms.
[1. A Match for a Widow is by Joseph Atkinson,
Treasurer of the Ordnance in Ireland, the friend and
associate of Curran, Moore, and the galaxy of Irish
genius. He died in 1818.
Aug. 20. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIEa
175
2. The Indians is by William Richardson, Pro-
fessor of Humanity in the University of Glasgow, who
died in 1S14.
3. Andre is by William Dunlap, an American dra-
matist.]
High Commission Court — Can any of your
readers refer me to works bearing on the proceed-
ings of the High Commission Court ? The sort of
information of which I am in search is not so much
on the great constitutional questions involved in
the history of this court, as in the details of its
mode of procedure; as shown either by actual
books of practice, or the history of psirticular cases
brought before it. J. F. M.
[Some account of the proceedings of the High
Commission Court is given in Reeves's Hiatory of the
English Law, vol. v. pp. 215 — ^218. The Harleian
MS. 7516. also contains Minutes of the Proceedings
of the High Commissioners at Whitehall, July 6, 1616,
on the question of Commendums, the king himself
being present. It makes twentyone leaves.]
^t^liti^
BOSICBUCIANS.
(Vol. vii., p. 619. ; Vol viii., p. 106.)
We frequently see Queries made in these pages
which could be satisfactorily answered by turning
to the commonest books of reference, such as
Brand, Fosbroke, Hone, the various dictionaries
and encyclopaedias, and the standard works on
the subjects queried. Now it seems to me that
"K. & Q." is not intended for going over old
ground, and thus becoming a literary treadmill ;
but its mission lies in supplying information not
easily founds and in perfecting, as far as possible,
our standard works and books of reference. Mr.
Taylor's Query affords an opportunity for this,
as the ordinary sources of information are very
deficient as regards the Rosicrucians.
According to some, the name is derived from
their supposed founder. Christian Rosencreutz, who
died in 1484. And they account for the fact of
the Rosicrucians not being heard of till 1 604, by
saying that Rosencreutz bound his disciples by an
oath not to promulgate his doctrines for 120 years
after his death. The mystical derivation of the
name is thus given in the JEncyc, Brit, : —
*' The denomination evidently appears to be derived
from the science of chemistry. It is not compounded,
as many imagine, of the two words rosa and crwx,
which signify rose and ci'DSSy but of the latter of these
two words and the Latin ros, which signifies dew. Of
all natural bodies dew was deemed the most powerful
dissolvent of gold ; and the cross in the chemical lan-
guage is equivalent to light, because the figure of the
cross exhibits at the same time the three letters of
which the word lux, light, is compounded. Now Itix
is called by this sect the seed or menstruum of the red
dragon, or, in other words, gross and corporeal lights
which, when properly digested and modified, produces
gold. Hence it follows, if this etymology be admitted,
that a Rosicrucian philosopher is one who, by the in-
tervention and assistance of the dew, seeks for light ;
or, in other words, the phiiosopher*s stone.
" The true meaning and energy of this denomination
did not escape the penetration and sagacity of Gassendi,
as appears by his Examen Philos, Fludd, torn. iii. s. 15.
p. 261 . ; and it was more fully explained by Renaudot
iu his Conferences Publiqnes, torn. iv. p. 87."
The encyclopaedist remarks that at first the title
commanded some respect, as it seemed to be bor-
rowed from the arms of Luther^ which were a cross
placed upon a rose.
The leading doctrines of the Rosicrucians were
borrowed from the Eastern philosophers* ; the
Christian Platonists, schoolmen, and mystics:
mixed up with others derived from writers on
natural history, magic, astrology, and especially
alchemy. All these blended together, and servea
up in a professional jargon of studied obscurity,
formed the doctrinal system of these strange pm-
losophers. In this system the doctrine of elemental
spirits, and the means of communion and alliance
with them, and the doctrine of signatures^ are the
most prominent points.
Let me refer Mr. Taylor to Michael Meyer's
Themis Aurea, hoc est de legihus Fraternitatis Rosea
Ci^cis, Col. 1615 ; the works of Jacob Behmen,
Robt. Fludd, John Hey don, Peter Mormius, Eu-
gene Philalethes ; the works of the Rosicrucian So-
ciety, containing seventy-one treatises in different
languages ; the Catalogue of Hermetic books by
the Abbe Lenglet du Iresnoi, Paris, 1762 ; Man-
get's Bihlioth, Chem. Curios.^ Col. 1702, 2 vols,
folio ; and the Theatrum Chemicum, Argent. 1662,
6 vols. 8vo.
I must make particular mention of the two
most celebrated of the Rosicrucian works; the
first is La Chiave del Cabinetto, Col. 1681, 12mo.
The author, Joseph Francis Borri, gives a most
systematic account of the doctrine of the Rosic
Cross in this interesting little volume. He was
imprisoned for magic and heresy, and died in his
prison at Rome in 1695 at the age of seventy
years. On this work was founded one still more
remarkable —
" Le Compte dc Gabalis, ou Entretiens sur les
Sciences Secretes. * Quod tanto impendio absconditur
etiam solum modo demonstrarc, destruere est.*— r
Terlull, Sur la Copie imprimee k Paris, chez Claude
Barbin. — m.dc.lxxi. 1 2mo., pp. 1 50."
• The Jewish speculations on the subject of ele-
mental spirits and angels (especially those that assumed
corporeal forms, and united themselves with the daugh-
ters of men) were largely drawn on by the Rosicrucians.
(See the famous Liber Zohar, Sulzbaci, 1684, fol. ; and
Pbilo, Lib. de Gigantibus, See also Hoornbeek, Lift.
pro Convert, Jud,, Lug. Bat., 1665, 4to.)
IM
NOTES AND QUERIES
[No. 199.
This work, thus published anonjmoualy, was from
the pen of the AbW da Villars, An English
translation was published at London in 1714.
The doctrine of the Rosj Cross entered largely
into the literature of the seventeenth eenturj.
This applies especially to the masques of James I.
and CLai-les I. To the same source ShakBpeare
owes his Ariel, and Milton much of his Comut.
It Is strange, but instructive, to obserTO hoir
Tariouslj diflerent minds make use of the same
juateriara. What greater contrast can ire haie
th»n The Rape of the Lock and Undine.'— tha
• one redolent of the petit-maitre and the Cockney;
the other a work mi generii, of human conceptions
. tho most exquisite and splrit-frn grant. WIeland'a
Idria und Zenide, Bulwer's Zanoni, nnd Mackay's
' Salamandrine, are also based on Rosicruclon prin-
ciples. Mention of the Rosicrucians occurs In
Izaak Walton's Angler and Butler's Hadibna —
see Zachary Grey's note nnd authorities referred
to by him. See also l?ro interesting papers on the
subject In Chambers's Edinb. Journal, ed. 1846,
-vol. vi, pp. 298. 316. Eibionnacu.
Jul; SO, 1S53.
" Atalanta Fugiens, hoc est, Ernblemsta Nova de
^Seereda Natural Chjmica. Accommodati pu-Cim
Dculis et intellectui, figurU cupr
Hca AuUnta ut fugit, sio una toi muticalii leinpeT
fugil ante aliam el altera intequitur, ut Hippomeaes:
stabiliuntur et iirmanlur, qua: Eimplei
anquan
naloi
: Ilict
virgo mer£ chymica e«t, nempe Mercuriui philoio-
pbiciis a sulfure auceo in fuga Hiatus et retentus, quern
si quia sistere noTerit, aponsam. quom ambit, babebit, un
minua, pecditionem suarum rerum est intsrilum," &e.
— Page 9,
(Vol.l
). 131.)
.pigrami
i plus minus 50 Fugii Muaicslibua
dism distichia canendii peraptAm correspond^ant, non
absq: lingulari jucunditate videnda, legenda, roedi-
tinda, intelligenda, dijudlcanda, canenda, et eudienda.
AutboreMichaeloMajerD, Imperial. ConsiBtorii Comite,
Med. D. Eq. Ei. etc. ; Oppenheimii, ei Typograpbia
Hieronytni Galleri, sumptibui Job. Tbeodori de Bry,
HDCiTiii." Small 4to. pp. 211.
The title-page is adorned with emblematical
figures. The work contains a portrait of the
Author, and fifty emblems executed nlth much
Sirit. Amongst others we Lave a Salamander in
e fire, a green lion, a berm aphrodite, a dragoon,
&C. Every right page has a motto, an emblem,
and an epigram under the emblem in Latin. Tlie
left page gives the same in German, iritb the Latin
words set to music. After each emblem we have
a " Dlscursus."
The following remarks on the title occur ia the
preface :
*■ Atalanta Po'etia oelebrata est propter fugam, qui
. victis pro Virgine, priEmio Vjcloriio propoaito, mors
obiigit, donee ab Hippomene, Juvene audacloie et
provido, auperala et obtenta ut tiium malorum aure-
oruin per Vices inter currendum objectu, qua dum
iUa toUerel, praveota eat ab eo, metam Jam allingente :
John Searson was a merchant in Philadelphia in
the year 1766. A few days before seeing the in-
quiry respecting bim, I came across his advertise-
ment In the PenTttylvania Qazelle ; but not having
made a note of the date, I have since been unable
to find it. His stock was of a very miscellaneous
character, as "Bibles and warming pans," "spell-
ing-books and Bwords," figured in it in juxta-
position. He taught school at one time In Bask-
ing Ridge, New Jersey.
A copy of his poem on " Down HIU" Is before
me i and it is quite as curious a production as the
volume of poems which lie afterwards published.
He describes himself In the title-page ns " Late
Master of the Free School in Colerain, and formerly
of New York, Merchant." The volume was printed
in 1794 by subscription at Colerain.
The work is introduced by " A Poem, being a
Cursory View of Belfast Town," thus commencing:
« With pleasure I view the Toim of Beltiut,
Where many dear friendi their loll baie been east :
The Buildings are neat, the Town very elean.
And Trade very brisk are here to be seen;
Their Shipping are numeraui, as I behold.
And JUercbanta thiire here in rlcbei, I'm told."
Here are some farther specimens from this poem:
" I'«e walk'd alone, and vieWd the Paptr Mia,
Its walk, the eye with pleasure fill.
I've view'd the Mountains that surround Bilfjibt,
And find they are romantic to the last
The Church of Bei.fast ia auperb and grand.
And to the Town an ornament does Bland i
Their Meeting HouKs alio is so neat,
The congregation large, fine and complete."
The volume contains a dedication to tlie Ber.
Mr. Josiab Klarshall, rector of Maghera, a preface,
a table of contents, and "A Prayer previous to tho
The whole book is so intensely ridiculous tliat
it is difficult to select. The following are rather
chosen for their brevity than for any pre-eminent
absurdity :
•• The Earl of BriBtol here some time do dwell,
Which after-ages sure of him will tell."
Aug. 20. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
177
** Down- Hill's so pleasing to the traveller's sight,
And th' marine prospect would your heart delight."
'* The rabbit tribe about me run their way,
Their little all to man becomes a prey.
The busy creatures trot about and run ;
Some kill them with a net, some with a gun.
Alas ! how little do these creatures know
For what they feed their young, so careful go.
The little creatures trot about and sweat,
Yet for the use of man is all they get.**
** He closed his eyes on ev'ry earthly thing.
Angles surround his bed : to heaven they bring
The soul, departed from its earthly clay.
He died, he died ! and calmly pass'd away,
His children not at home ; his widow mourn.
And all his friends, in tears, seem quite forlorn."
Some of the London booksellers ought to re-
print this work as a curiosity of literature. Some
of the subscribers took a number of copies, and
one might be procured for the purpose. The
country seats of the largest subscribers are de-
scribed in the poem.
The book ends with these lines (added by the
" devil " of the printing-office, no doubt) :
" The above rural, pathetic, and very sublime per-
formance was corrected, in every respect, by the author
himself."
This is erased with a pen, and these words written
below — " Printer's error." Uneda.
Philadelphia.
"feom the sublime to the ridiculous,*' etc.
(Vol. v., p. 100.)
Since my former communication on the use of
the phrase "From the sublime to the ridiculous
there is but a step," I have met with some farther
examples of kindred forms of expression, which
you may deem worth inserting in " N. & Q."
Shakspeare has an instance in Romeo and Juliet,
where he describes " Love " as —
'* A madness most discreet,^
A choaking gall, and a preserving sweet."
Quarles has it in his Emblems, Book iv. Epi-
gram 2. : —
" Pilgrim, trudge on; what makes thy soul complain?
Crowns thy complaint ; the way to rest is pain :
The road to resolution lies by doubt ;
The next way home's the farthest way about."
We find it in this couplet in Butler :
*^ For discords make the sweetest airs.
And curses are a kind of prayers."
Kochester has it in the line —
** An eminent fool must be a man of parts."
It occurs in Junius*s remark —
*« Your Majesty may learn hereafter how nearly the
slave and the tyrant are allied."
and in the following well-known passage in th6
same writer ;
" He was forced to go through every division, re-
solution, composition, and refinement of political
chemistry, before he happily arrived at the caput
mortuum of vitriol in your grace. Flat and insipid in
your retired state; but, brought into action, you
become vitriol again. Such are the extremes of alter-
nate indolence or fury which have governed your
whole administration."
The thought here (be it said in passing) seems
to have been adopted from these lines in Ro-
chester :
" Wit, like tierce claret, when 't begins to pall,
Neglected lies, and *s of no use at all ;
But in its full perfection of decay
Turns vinegar, and comes again in play."
But the most beautiful application of this senti-
ment that I have met with, occurs in an essay on
" The Uses of Adversity," by Mr. Herman Hooker,
an American writer : —
<< A pious lady, who had lost her husband, was for a
time inconsolable. She could not think, scarcely could
she speak, of anything but him« Nothing seemed to
take her attention but the three promising children he
had left her, singing to her his presence, his look, his
love. But soon these were all taken ill, and died within
a few days of each other ; and now the childless
mother was calmed even by the greatness of the stroke.
As the lead that goes quickly down to the ocean's
depth ruffled its surface less than lighter things, so the
blow which was strongest did not so much disturb her
calm of mind, but drove her to its proper trust."
Henbt H. Bbeen.
St. Lucia.
PASSAGE IN THE BURIAL SERVICE.
(Vol. viii., p. 78.)
« Tn the midst of life we are in death."
A writer in the Parish Choir (vol. iii. p. 140.)
gives the following account of this passage. He
says :
** The passage in question is found in the Cantarium
Sti, GaUi, or choir-book of the monks of St. Gall in
Switzerland, published in 1845, with, however, a slight
deviation from the text, as we are accustomed to it.
« Medid Vita of St Nother.
* Medi& Vitd in morte sumus : quem quajrimus ad-
jutorem, nisi Te Domine, qui pro peccatis nostris justd
irasceris. Ad te clamaverunt patres nostri, speraverunt,
et liberasti eos. Sancte Deus : ad te clamaverunt patres
nostri, clamaverunt et non sunt confusi. Sancte Fortis,
ne despicias nos in tempore senectutis : cum defecerit
virtus nostra, ne derelinquas nos. Sancte et misericors
Salvator amarae morti ne tradas nos.*
'*On consulting the Thesaurus HymwAogicus of
Daniel (vol. ii. p. S29.) I find the followuig notice.
178
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 199.
It is called ' Antiphona pro Fcccatis/ or * de Morte ;*
and the text there given corresponds nearly with that
in our Burial Service.
" Media vltd in morte sumus :
Quern quaerimus adjutorem nisi Te Domine,
Qui pro pcccatis nostris juste irasceris:
Sancte Deus, sancte fortis, sancte et misericors Sal-
vator,
Amarae morti ne tradas nos.
" Rambach siys, * " In the midst of life" occurs in
MSS. of the thirteenth century, as an universally com-
mon dirge and song of supplication on all melancholy
occasions, and was in this century regularly sung at
Compline on Saturdays. A German translation was
known long before the time of Luther, and was en-
larged by him by the addition of two strophes.' Mar-
tene describes it as forming part of a religious service
for New Year's Eve, composed about the year 13CX).
** Hoffmann says that this anthem * by Notker the
Stammerer, a monk of St. Gall's (an. 912), was an
extremely popular battle-song, through the singing of
which, before and during the fight, friend and foe
hoped to conquer. It was also, on many occasions,
used as a kind of incantation song. Therefore the
Synod of Cologne ordered (an. 1316) that no one
should sing the Media vita without the leave of his
bishop.'
** Daniel adds that it is not, to his knowledge, now
used by the Roman Church in divine worship ; but
that the admirable hymn of Luther, * Mitten wir im
Leben sind,* still flourishes amongst the Protestants of
Germany, just as the translation in our Prayer-Book
is popular with us."
Geo. a. Trevor.
Your correspondent J. G. T. asks whence comes
the expression in the Burial Service, " In the
midst of life we are in death ? " There are some
lines in Petrarch which express precisely the same
idea in nearly the self-same words ; but as the
thought is by no means an unlikely one to occur
to two separate and independent authors, we may
not go to the length of charging the seeming^ pi a-
fiarism upon the compilers of our Prayer-Sook.
have mislaid the exact reference*, but subjoin
the lines themselves :
' Omnia paulatim consumit longior atas,
Vivendoque siinul morimurj rapimurque manendo :
Ipse mihi collatus cnim, non ille videbor ;
Frons alia est, moresque alii, nova mentis imago,
Voxque aliud mutata sonat."
John Booker.
Prestwich.
Patrick's purgatory.
(Vol. vii., p. 552.)
Dr. Lanigan, in his learned Ecclesiastical HU'
iory of Ireland (vol. i. p. 368.), states that the so-
called Patrick's Purgatory is situated at Lough
[* Barbftto Sulmonensi, epUt. i. — En.]
Derg (Donegal). It is never mentioned in any
of the lives of the apostle, nor heard of till the
eleventh century, the period at which the canons
regular of St. Augustine first appeared, for it was
to persons of that order, as the story goes, that
St. Patrick confided the care of that cavern of
wonders. Now there were no such persons in the
island in which it is situated, nor in that of St.
Davoc [Dabeoc ?] in the same lake, until about tiie
beginning of the twelfth century. This purgatory,
or purging place, of Lough Derg, was set up against
another Patrick's purgatory, viz. that of Crough
Patrick, mentioned by Jocelyn, which, however
ill-founded the vulgar opinion concerning it, was
less objectionable. Some writers have said that
it got the name of Patrick's Purgatory from an
Abbot Patrick, that lived in the ninth century ;
but neither were there canons regular of St. Au-
gustine at that time, nor were such abridged
modes of atoning to the Almighty for the sins of a
whole life then thought of. It was demolished in
the year 1497, by order of the Pope, although it
has since been in some manner restored.
The original Patrick's Purgatory then, it would
appear, was at Croagh Patrick, in Mayo, near
Westport ; speaking of the pilgrimages made to
which, the monk Jocelyn (in his Life of St Patrick^
written a.d. 1180, cap. 172.) says that —
** Some of those who spent a night there stated that
they had been subjected to most fearful torments, which
had the effect, as they supposed, of purging them from
their sins, for which reason also certain of them gave
to that place the name of St. Patrick's Purgatory."
By the authority of the Lords Justices who
governed Ireland in 1633, previously to the ap-
pointment of Wentworth, Lough Derg Purgatory
was once more suppressed ; but the sort of piety
then fostered among the members of the Roman
communion in Ireland could ill afford to resign
without a sti*uggle what was to them a source o£
so much consolation. High influence was, there-
fore, called into action to procure the reversal of
the sentence ; and the Roman Catholic Queen of
Charles I. was induced to address to the Lord
Deputy of Ireland a letter in which she requested
that he would be pleased *' to allow, that the
devotions which the people of that country have
ever been wont to pay to a St. Patrick's place
there, may not be abolished." The Lord Deputy
declined acceding to this request, and said in his
reply, " I fear, at this time, when some men's zeal
hath run them already, not only beyond their
wits, bitt almost forth of their allegiance too^ it
might furnish them with something to say in pre-
judice and scandal to his majesty's government,
which, for the present indeed, is by all means to
be avoided." And adds, ** your Majesty might do
passing well to let this devotion rest awhile."
After this second suppression, the devotion has a
second time been *^ in some manner restored ;** and
Aug. 20. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES*
179
multitudes throng to tlie place on the faith of a
false tradition, so long since exposed and exploded
by their own authorities. Three hundred find
fifty years ago, the Pope, the representative of the
Bishop of Clogher, and the head of the Franciscans
in Donegal, combined their efforts to put down
the scandalous fabrication ; but yet it remains to
this day an object of cherished religious venera-
tion— an object of confidence and faith, on which
many a poor soul casts itself to find consolation
and repose. And those multitudes of pilgrims,
year after year, assemble there, no influence which
they look to for guidance forbidding them, to do
homage to the vain delusion.
D. W. S. P. will find farther information on
this subject in The Catholic Layman for April
last : Curry, Dublin. William Blood.
Wicklow.
LORD WILLIAM BUSSELL.
(Vol. viii., p. 100.)
In answer to W. L. M.'s inquiry, "where the
virtuous and patriotic William Lord Russell was
buried ? " I beg to state that I possess a pamphlet
entitled :
" The whole Tryal and Defence of William Lord
Russel, who Dyed a Martyr to the Romish Fury in
the Year 1683, with the Learned Arguments of the
Council on both sides. Together with his Behaviour
and Speech upon the Scaffold : His Character and
Behaviour. London : printed by J. Bradford, at the
Bible in Fetter Lane."
There is no date to it ; but from the appearance
of the paper, type, a rude woodcut of the execu-
tion, &c., I doubt not that it was printed soon
after the event, or certainly immediately after the
Revolution, to meet the popular wishes to have
information on the subject. It consists of sixteen
octavo pages, very closely printed. The opening
paragraph says :
•* Among the many that suffered in a Protestant
cause [all the Italics used in this communication are
those of the pamphlet], and indeed whose measure
seem'd to be the hardest of all, was this honorable per-
son William Lord Jiussel, who was generally lamented
for his excellent Temper and good Qualities; being
allowed to be one of the most sober and judicious
Noblemen in the Kingdom, which even his Enemies
could not deny ; and the Merit and Esteem he bore
was more cause of Offence against him than any Mat-
ter that was reap'd up at his Tryal ; all which in effect
was merely grounded upon Malice (I mean Popish
Malice) that could not be forgot, from his Lordship's
being one of those earnest sticklers for Protestant
Liberty, and jeven the very foremost that prefer*d the
Bill of Exclusion," &c.
Then follows the trial, headed "July 13, 1683,
the Lord Russel came to his Tryal at the Old
Bailey." The indictment is described ; the names
of the jury are given ; judges and counsel named ;
the evidence, examinations, and cross-examinations
(by Lord Russel) very interestingly narrated:
the Report concluding, after a short address from
Lord Russel, "Then the Court adjourned till
four in the afternoon, and brought him in guilty.*'
These particulars are followed by " The last
Speech and Car^nage of the Lord Russel upon the
Scaffold^ Sfc" As to the executioner's work, all
other accounts that I have seen state that after
" two " strokes the head was severed from the
body. The publication says :
" The Executioner, missing at his first Stroke,
though with that he took away his Life, at two more
severed the Head from the Body .... Mr. Sheriff
[continues the account] ordered his Friends or Ser-
vants to take the Body, and dispose of it as they pleased,
being given them by His Majesty's Favour and BouaUi/,**
The narrative proceeds :
" His Body was conveyed to Cheneys in Buckingham^
shirct where *twas Buried among his Ancestors. There
was a great Storniy and many loud Claps of Thunder
the Day of his Martyrdom. An Elegy was made on
him immediately after his Death ; which seems, by
what we have of it, to be writ with some Spirit, and a
great deal of Truth and Good-will ; only this Frag-
ment on't could be retriev'd, which yet may not be
unwelcome to the Reader :
* * Tis done — he*s Crown'd, and one bright Martyr moref
Black Rome, is charged on thy too bulky score.
All like himself, he mov'd so calm^ so free,
A general whisper questioned — Which is he ?
Decked like a Lover — thd" pale Death's his Bride,
He came, and saw, and overcame, and dy*d.
Earth weeps, and all the vainly pitying Crowd :
But Heaven his Death in Thunder groaned aloud,* "
A "sketch of his character" closes the account.
Perhaps W. S. M. may deem these particulars not
wholly uninteresting, but tolerably conclusive,
considering the time of publication, when the fact
must have been notorious.
A Hermit at Hampstbad.
OAKEN tombs, ETC.
(Vol. vii., p. 528.)
At Banham, Norfolk, in a recess in the wall of
the north aisle of the church, is an oaken effigy
of a knight in armour in a recumbent position.
Blomefield says :
« It is plain that it was made for Sir Hugh Bardolph,
Knight, sometime lord of Gray's Manor, in this town,
who died in 1203; for under his left arm there is a
large cinquefoil, which is the badge of that family," &c.
Since he wrote, however (1739), with a view to
the better preservation of this interesting reliei
some spirited churchwarden has caused it to be
180
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[Ka 199.
veil painted ttnd sanded ; so thitt it now looks
edmott aa well m stono. At the Bume time, the
marks bj which BlomcGelJ thought to identlfj it
are necessarily obliterated. T. B. D. H.
William de Valente, Ear! of Pembroke, who
was slain at Bayonne in 1296, — hia effigy in wood
is in St. Edmund's Chapel in Westminster Abbe^,
covered with enamelled brass. There is also in
Abergavenny Church, amongst the general wreck
of monumental remains there, a cross-legged effigy
in wood, represented in chain mail ; which tlie
tate Sir Samuel Mevrick supposed to have been
that of William de Valence. It is mentioned in
Coxe's MoamoulAiAire, p. 192.
The effigy of Aymer de Valence referred to in
Whitaker ("N. & Q.," Vol. vii.. p. 528.) is not of
wood i he evidently refers to that of William de
Valence.
In Gloucester Cathedral there is the wooden
monument of t. croas-legged knight attributed to
Bobert Duke of Normandy, the eldest son of the
Conqueror; but it is probably of a little later
period. Thomas W. Kimq (York Herald).
Cullege of Arms.
In the Cathedral of Gloucester, there is a
wooden effigy of the unfortunate Robert Duke of
Norm.indy, eldest son of the Conqueror. It is so
many years since I saw it, that 1 do not offer any
description : but, if my memory be correct, it has
the legs crossed, and (what is curious) is loose,
and can be turned about on the tomb. A. C. M.
Exetti.
On the south side of Hie chancel of St. Giles'
Church, Durham, is a wooden effigy in full armour;
the head resting on a helmet, and the hands raised
as in prayer. It is supposed to be the tomb of
John Heath, who became possessed of the Hospital
of St. Giles Kepyer, and is known to have been
buried in the chaneel of St. Giles' Church. He
died in 1590. At the feet of the wooden effigy,
are the words " hodie uichi." The figure was
restored in colours about ten years ago.
CtllllBBRT BbDB, B. a.
ones, which form part of a beautiful ode on iba
attributes of God, not unmixed with a considerable
proportion of the fabulous, which is sung in every
synagogue during the service of the first day M
the feast of Pentecost.
May I now be permitted to ask you, or any of
your numerous correspondents, to inform me wlw
was the bona file translator of Rnbbi Uaylr ben
Isaac's lines ? The English lines are often quoted
by itinerant advocates of charity societies as hav-
ing been found inscribed, according to some, on
the walls of a lunatic asylum, according to others;
on the walls of a jprlson, as occasion requires ; but
extempore quotations on platforms are sometimea
vague. Moses Maboouohth.
Wjbunbury.
The verses arc in Grose's Olio (p. 292.), and
are there said to be written by nearly an idiot,
then living (March 16, 1779) at Cirencester. It
happens, however, that long before the supposed
idiot was born, one Geoffrey Chaucer made use erf
tlie same ides, and the same expressions, although
applied to a totally different subject, vii. in his
" Balade warnynge men to beware of deceitful
Wer parcliment smoth, white and scribbabell, ''
And tbc gret see, that called is th' Ocein,
Were tourned into ynke blackir than aabell,
Ectie sticks a p«a, ache man a scrivener able.
Not coud thei wrilin woman's treacherie,
Beware, tberefbrc, the blind cicth many a flie."
Again in the " Remedic of Love," the same lines
occur with a few slight alterations.
In vol. X. of the Modem Uninersdl Hiatory,
p, 430. note, I meet with this sentence :
ided by Jocbanan ; not in liglit of
t of his
iitraordini
{Vol. viii., p. 127.)
The bona fide author of the following linos —
" Could we with Ink the ocean till,
And were the heavens ot parchment made.
Wen
luill,
And every man a scribe by trade i
To write the love of God bIiotc.
Would drain the ocean dry i
Nor could the scroll contain the whole,
Tliough streEch'd from sky to sky."
is Rabbi Mayir ben Isaac. The above eight lines
ore almost a literal translation of four Chaldee
Rabbles, ai
prising a height, that, according (o them, if the whole
heavens were paper, all the trees in the world pen^
and all the men writers, they would not suffice to poi
down all hia lessous."
In later times, in Miss C. Sinclair's HiSI and
Vidlei/, p. 25., we have :
■■ If the lake could be transformed into an ink-atan^
the mountains into paper ; and if all the birds that
hover on high were to subscribe their wings for quiUi^
it would be atill insufficient to write balf the praise and
admiration that are jusllv due."
CLE.
These lines are by Dr. Walls. I cannot jart
now distinctly recollect whet^ they are to be found,
but I think in Milner's Life of Waili. My recol-
lection of them is that they were impromptu, mvoi
at an evening party. H. eL 8.
f Aug. 20. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
COSRBSPOHDENCB.
Wathing or not wasiing CoUoJioa Picbirei after
developing, previotu lofixii^. — Since the question
hu been mooted 1 have tried both ways, and have
come to the conclusion that there is verj little
difference in the resulting appearance of the pic-
ture. The faypo. ia certoiiilj deteriorated wnen
no washing is adopted. I think it is beet to pour
off the first quantity applied into a cup kept for
the purpose ; this is diecoloured : I then pour on
more cleun hypo., and let it reniiun till the picture
clears, and pour this into another cup or bottle for
future use. What was poured into the first cup
mAj, irhen a sufficient quantity is obtained, be
filtered, and by addin" more of the sail is not use-
less. I pour on merely enough ,it first to wash oET
the developing fluid, and pour it off at once. The
C'cture ia cicured much sooner if the saturated
fpo. solution is waruicd, which I do by plunging
die bottle into a pewter pint pot filled with hot
■water. W. M. F.
Slereoscopie Angles (Vol. viil., pp. 109. 157.). —
I perfectly agree with jour correspondent Mb. T.
Ii. Mebbitt (p. i09.J respecting " stereoscopic
angles," having arrived at the same conclusion
eome months since, while at Hastings, where I
produced stereoscopic pictures by uioviog the
camera only two inchea : having in one, seven
bouses and five bathing-machines ; and in the
Other,^oe houses and eight bathing. machines. If
I had separated the two pictures more, I should
have had all balhivg-machines in one and aU houses
in the other ; which convinced me that nothing
more is required thnn the width of the tnro eyes
for all distances, or, sliditly to exaggerate it, to
three inches, which will produce a pieaaing and
natural effect : for it is quite certain that our eyes
do not become wider apart as we recede from an
object, and that the intention is to give a true
representation of nature as seen by one person.
!Now, most stereoscopic pictures represent nature
as it never could be seen by any one person, from
the same point of view ; and I feel confident that
all photographers, who condescend to make stereo-
scopic pictures, will arrive at the same conclusion
before the end of this season.
If this be correct, nil difficulty is reraoTed ; for
it is always advisable to take two pictures of the
same prospect, in case one should not be good ;
and two very indifferent negatives will combine
into one very good positive, when viewed by the
stereoscope : thus proving the old saying, that two
negatives make an affirmative.
Hehbi Wilkihsob.
it on, believing that it was easier to observe the
progress of the picture by that mode. If S. B.
will forward me his address, I shall be happy to
enter more minutely into my mode of operating
with it than I can through the medium of "h!
& Q." I have receiied other favourable testi-
mony as to the value of my developing fluid for
gloss positives.
While I am writing, will you allow me to ask
your photographic correspondents whether any of
them have tried Mr. BlUIIer'a paper process re-
ferred to by Mr. Delamotte at p. 143. of his work?
It was first aimounced in the Athenaum of Nov. 2,
1851. When I first commenced photogr^by
(June, 1652), I tried the process ; and from what
I did with it, when I was almost entirely ignorant
of the manipulation, I am inclined to think it a
valuable process. The sharpness of the tracery in
my church windows, in a picture I took by the
process, is remarkable. Mr. Delamotte truly says ;
" This ia a most striking diacovery, as it super-
sedes the necessity of any developing agent after
the light has acted on the paper." Mr. Miiller
says, Uiat simple wasliiug in water seems to be
sufficient to fix the pictui e. This is also a striking
discovery, and tolally unlike any other very sensi-
tive process that I am acquainted with ; and more
striking still, that the process should not have been
more practised. J. Lawsoh Sissos.
EdingChorpe Iteclory.
Sissou's Deeelopiitg Solution. — In answer to
8. B.'s inquiry, I beg to say, that I have not tried
the above solution as a bath. I have always poured
SrjiTfrij to ^tnnc &\uxtti.
Robert Dnirg (Vol. v., p. 533. ; Vol. vii,, p, 485.;
Vol. viii., p. 104.).~I believe the Journal of Eo-
bert Drury to be a genuine book of travels and
adventures, and here is my voucher :
" The best and most authentic account ever given
of Madogascsr was pulilislied in 1TZ9. by Robert
Drury, who being shipwrecked in the Degrave Eiat
Indiaman, on the south side of Hint ii,U«d, in ITOS,
being then a boy, Uvsd there as a slave BUeta yeara,
and after his return to England, among those who
at (he East India House), had the character ofu down,
right honest man, without any ■ppearaoce of fraud or
impoilure." — John Duncombe, AI. A., one uf the Ui
preachers in ChiLst Church, Canterbury, 1775.
Mr. Duncombe quotes several statements from
Drury which coincide with those of the Eeverend
William Hirst, the astronomer, who touched at
Madagascar, op his voyage to India, in 1759. Ten
years afterwards Mr. Hirst perished in the Aurora,
and with him the author of The Shiptvreci.
Bolton Cosnet.
Seal Sigmtures Eersvt Pseudo-Name* (Vol. vi^
p. 310.; Vol. viii., p. 94.), —There i» no doubt
that the straighifoiwardness of open and undis-
guised communications to your excellent miscel-
NOTES AND QUERIE&
{No. 19».
Isny ia desirable ; but a few words may be said on
behalf of your anonymoiia contributora. If the
rule were established that every correspondent
should add hia name to hia communication, many
of your friends might, from motives of delicacy,
decliDc asking a question or hazarding a reply.
By adopting a nom-de-guerre, men eminent in
their various pursuits can quietly and unosten-
tatioualv ask a question, or contribute information.
If the latter be done with reference to standard
works of authority, or to MSS. preserved in our
public depositories, the disclosure of the name of
the contributor odds nothing to the matter con-
tributed, and he may rejoice that he baa been the
means of promoling the objects of the " N. & Q."
without the " blushing to find it fame." It should,
however, be a tiae qua non that all original com-
munications, and those of matters of fact, should
be authenticated by a real signature, when no re-
ference can be given to authorities not accessible
to the public; and it is to be regretted that such
authentication baa not, in such cases, been ge-
nerally afforded.
Thos. Wm. Kibq (York Herald).
Lines on the Instiiution of ike Oarter (Vol. viiL,
p.63.).—
" Her stocking's security fell from her tnee,
Allosions and hints, sneers and whispers went round."
May I put a Query on the idea auggested by
these lines — that the accidental dropping of her
garter implied an imputation on the fair fame of
uie Countess of Salisbury. Why should thia be?
That it did imply an iniiiulation, I judge as well
from the vindication of the lady by King Edward,
as also from the proverbial expresaion used in
Scotland, and to be found in Scotfs Works, of
"casting a leggln girth," as synonymous with a
female "faux pas." I have a conjecture, but
diould not like to venture it, without inquiring
the general impression as to the origin of this
notion. A. B. R,
Behnont.
"Short red, God red," ^c. (Vol. v 11., p. 500.).
— Sir Waller Scott has committed an oversight
when, in Tnlei of a Grandfather, vol. i. p. 85., he
mentions a murderer of the Bishop of Caithness to
have made use of the expression, " Schort ted,
God red, slea ye the biachop." Adam, Bishop of
Caithness, was burnt by the mob near Thurso, in
1222, for oppression in the exaction of tithes;
John, Earl of Orkney and Caithness, was killed in
retaliation by the bishop's party in 1231.
The language apoken at that time on the sea-
coast of Caithness must have been Norse. Suther-
land would appear to have been wrested fiom the
Orkney -Norwegians before that period, and the
the Norae continued to be the apoken tongue till
a later period, when it was superseded by the
Scottish. The Norwegians in tlie cod ti the
ninth century colonised Orkney, and expdled or
destroyed the former inhabitants. The WeMen
Isles were olao subjugated by them at that tiae,
and probably Caithness, or at all events a little
later. It would be deairable to know the race and
tongue previously eziating in Caithness, and if
these were lost in the Norwegians and Nopse, and
an earlier Christianity in Scandinavian l:'i^ranism.
This may, however, lead tb the unfathomably dari:
subject of the Picts. Is it known when Nor
spoken in Caithness? Tbe etoiy itf
the burning of the Bishop of Caithness forms the
conclusion of the Orkneyinga Saga; and ride
TorfKUB, Oreadei, p. 154,, and Dalrymple'e Am¥iU
of ScoUand, of dates 1222 and 1231. F.
Martlin. Mount (Vol. vii., pp.38. 117.).— At
" Brandon," the seat of tlie Harrisons on the
James River, Virginia, ia a likeness of Miaa Blotmt
by Sir Godfrey Kneller; and at "Berkeley," alao
on the J.imes Hiver, and the reaidence of another
branch of the same family, is one of the Duelieas
of Montagu, also by Kneller. Thus much in an-
swer to the Query. But in this connexion I ivould
mention, that on the James River are siany fine
Eictures, portraits of worthies famous in JGosliah
istory. At " Shirley" there is one of CoLHfll,
by Vandyke ; at Brandon, one of CoL Byrd, by
Vandyke ; alao Lord Orrery, Duke of Areyle,
Lord Albemarle, Lord Egmont, Sir Robert Wal-
pole, and others, by Kneller.
These pictures are mentioned in chap. is. of
Travels in North America during the Years 1834 —
ISSG, by the Hon. Charles Augustus Slomty ; a
gentleman who either is, or was, Msst^ of the
Queen's Household. T. Bai.ch,
Ph^aelpbia.
Longevity (Vol. viil., p. 113.^.— As W. W.
asserts that Uiere is a lady livmg (or was two
months ago) in South Carolina, who is inoun to
be 131 years old, h<!will no doubt be good enough.
to let tlic readers of " N. & Q." know it also. And
although W. W. thinks it will not be necessary to
search in "annual or parish registers" to prove
the age of the aingujar Singleton, yet he most
produce documentary evidence of aome sort;
unless, indeed, he knows an older person who re-
members the birth of the aged Carolinian.
Having paid the wcll-knowu Mr. Bamum a fee
to see a negretss, whom the cute showman exhibited
as the nurse of the great Washington, I have fifty
cents worth of reasons to subscribe myaelf
A DODBTKB.
Celtic tongue and race gaining on the Norse; but
on the aea-coast of Caithneas I should appre'
Iti (VoLviL, p.578.). — B.H.C. ia perfectly
irrect in saying that I waa nuatalcen in my qoo-
appreheod tallon from Fairlks's Tatao. It only rr "-
Aug. 20. 1853.]
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183
me to ezi^ain how I fell into tibe error. It was,
then, from using Mr. Knight*s edition of the work^
for though the orthography was modernised, which
I like, I never dreamed of an editor's taking the
liberty of altering the text of his author. I love
to be corrected when wrong, and here express my
thanks to B. H. C. I inform him that there is
another passage in Shakspeare with its in it, but
not having marked it, I cannot find it just now : I
think it is in Lear.
I have said that I like modernised orthography.
We have modernised that of the Bible, and of the
dramatists ; why then are we so superstitious with
respect to the barbarous system of Spenser P I
am convinced that the Fairy QueeUj if printed in
modern orthography, would find many readers who
are repelled by the uncouth and absurd spelling
of the poet, who wanted to rhyme to the eye as
well as to the ear. Let us then have a " Spenser
for the People." Thos. KeightiiET.
Oldham, Bishop of Exeter (Vol. vii., pp. 14.
164. 189. 271.). — Me. Walcott will be interested
to learn, that Bishop Hugh Oldham was not a
native of Oldham, but was bom at Crumpsall, in
the parish of Manchester ; as appears from Dug-
dale s Visitation of Lancashire, and the " Lanca-
shire MSS.," vol. xxxi. His brother, Richard
Oldham, appointed 22nd Abbot of St. Werburgh's
Abbey, Chester, in 1452, was afterwards elevated
to the bishoprick of Man, and, dying Oct. 13, 1485,
was buried at Chester Abbey, Chester.
T. Hughes.
Chester.
Boom (Vol. vii., p. 620.). — This word, expres-
sive of the cry of the bittern, is also used as a
noun :
** And the loud bittern from his bull-rush home,
Gave from the salt-ditch side his bellowing boom**
Crabbe, The Borought xxii.
Ebenezer Elliott is another who uses the word
as a verb :
" No more with her will hear the bittern boom
At evening^s dewy close."
Cuthbebt Bede, B.A.
Lord North (Vol. vii^ p. 317.). — If C. can pro-
cure a copy of Lossing*s Pictorial Field-book of
the American Revolution, he will find in one of the
volumes a woodcut from an English engraving,
presenting to our view George 111. as he appeared
at the era of the American Revolution. It may
serve to modify his present opinion as to the
king's figure, face, &c M. £.
Philadelphia.
Dutch Pottery (Vol. v^ p. 343. ; Vol. vi., p. 253.).
— At Arnhem, about sixty -five or seventy years
ago, there existed a pottery foimded by two Ger-
mans: H. Brandeis, and the well>known savant
H. Ton Laun, maker of the planetarium (orrery}
described by Professor van Swinden, and pur-
chased by the Society Felix Meritis in Amsterdam.
The son of Mr. Brandeis has still at his residence^
No. 419. Bapenburgerstraat, several articles manu-
factured there : such as plates, &c. What I have
seen is much coarser than the Saxon porcelain,
yet much better than our Delft ware. Perhaps
Mr. Van Embden, grandson and successor of Von
Laun, could give farther information.
S. J. MULDEB.
p. S. — Allow me to correct some misprints in
Vol. vi., p. 253. Dutch and German names
are often cruelly maltreated in English publica-
tions. In this respect " N. & Q." should be an ex-
ception. For " Ltchner " read Lcichner ; for " Dorp-
Aeschryver" read Dorp&eschryver ; for "Blasse**
read BliiasS ; for " Hceren " read Haeren ; for
"PallandA" read Palland; for "Daenbar" read
Daewber. — From the Navorscher,
Cramners Correspondences (Vol. vii., p. 62 L). —
Will Me. Walter be so good as to preserve in
your columns the letter of which Dean Jenkyns
has only given extracts ?
Two points are to be distinguished ; Cranmer's
wish that Calvin should assist in a general union
of the churches protesting against Komish error
— Calvin^s offer to assist in settling the Church of
England. The latter was declined ; and the reason
is demonstrated in Arc^bp. Laurence*s Bampton
Lectures, S. Z. Z. S.
Portable Altars (Vol. viii., p. 101.). — I am not
acquainted with any treatise on the subject of
portable altars, from which your correspondent
can obtain more information, than from that which
occupies forty- six pages in the Becas DissertO'
tionum HistoricO'Theologicarum, published, for the
second time, by Jo. Andr. Schmidt, 4to. Helmstad.
1714. R. G.
Poem attributed to Shelley (Vol. viii., p. 71.). —
The ridiculous extravaganza attributed to Shelley
by an American newspaper, was undoubtedly
never written by that gifted genius. It bears
throuochout unmistakeable evidence of its trans-
atlantic origin. No person, who had not actually
witnessed that curious vegetable parasite, the
Spanish moss of the southern states of America,
hanging down in long, hairy-like plumes fixwn the
branches of a large tree, could have imagined the
lines, —
** Ihe downy'clouds droop
Like moss upon a tree.*'
Who, again, could believe that Shelley, an En-
glish gentleman and scholar, could ever, either in
writing or conversation, have made use of the
common American vulgarism, " play heU ! *'
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[No. 199.
is, in taj humble opicion, a matter of little
interest. But ns ft probable guess, I should say
tbat it carries strong internal evidence of having
been iriitten b; that erratic mortal, Etigar Fa<?.
W. PiNKEBTOH.
Him.
indy Peres, TFi/e of Hotspur (Daushler nj
Edmund Mortimer, Earl of Marck) (Vol. viii.,
p. 104.). — On reference to the volume and page
of Misa Strickland's Liees of the Queens of Eng-
land, cited by your correspondent G., I find that
not only does this lady, hj her sweeping assertion,
bastardise the second E. of Northumberland, but,
in her zeal to outsay all that " ancient heralds "
ever can have said, she annihilates, or at least
reduces to n mjtli, the mother of Thomas, eighth
Lord Clifford. This infelicitous statement may
have been corrected in the second edition of the
Lives, for in "N. & Q.," Vol. vii., p. 42., there is
a detailed pedigree tracing the descent of Jane
Seymour tlu-ough Margaret Wentworth, her mo-
ther, by an intermarriage with a Weatworth, and
a granddaughter of Ilolspur, Lord Percy, (not
dmtghter, as Miss Strickland writes) from the
blood-royal of England. My object, however, in
writing this is not farther to point attention to
Miga Strickland's mistake, but to invite discussion
to the point where this pedigree may be possibly
faulty. I will not say " all ancient heralds," but
some heralds, at least, of acknowledged reputation,
viz. Nicolas, Collins, and Dugdule*, have stated
that the wife of Sir Philip Wentworth was a
daughter of Roger fifth Lord Clifford. If (his be
so, m truth there is an end at once of the Sey-
ffiOnr's claim to royal lineage ; for it is an un-
doubted fact that it was the grandson of Roger
fifth Lord, namely, John, seventh Lord Clifford,
K.G., nlio married Uotspur's only daughter.
C.V.
" Up,_ guards, and at them .'" (Vol. v., p. 426. ;
Tol.viii., p. 111.). — Some years ago, about the
time that the Wellington statue on the arch at
Hyde Park Corner was erected, I was dining at a
table where Wyatt the artist wns present. The
conversation turned much upon the statue, and
the exact neriod at which the great Duke is repre-
sented. Wyatt said that ho was represented at
that moment when he is supposed to have used
the words ; " Up, guards, and at them I " It having
been questioned whether he ever uttered the
words, I asked the artist whether, when he was
taking the Duke's portrait, the Duke himself
acknowledged using them ? To which he replied.
not Bay what expression he did u
sion. The company at dinner seemed much it
Pcnnycomequick (Vol. viii., p. 113.). — A similar
story to that relaled by your correspondent Mr.
Hele is told of FiUmouth. Previously to its being
incorporated as a town by Charles II., it was called
Smtkick, from a smith's shop, near a creek, which
extended up Ihe valley. The old Cornish word
ick signifies a "creek ;" and as it became a village it
was called " Penny com equick," which your corre-
spondent H. C. K. clearly explains. The Welsh
and Cornish languages are in close affinity. The
name " Penny com equick" is evidently a corrupted
old Cornish name: see Pryce's .Irrftco/o^ta Com»
Brilannica, v. "Pen," " Coomb," ond " lek," Uie
head of the narrow valley, defile or creek, It has
been thought by some to mean " the head of the
cuckoo's valley; and your correspondent's Weldi
derivation seems to countenance such a translation.
The cuckoo is known in Scotland, Wales, and
Cornwall as " the Gaick Gmieh." Ma. Hble,
perhaps, will be amused at the traditional story
of the Falmouthians respecting the origin of
Penny comequick. Before the year 1600, there
were few houses oti the site of the present town;
a woman, who had been a sei-vant with an ancestor
of the late honourable member for West Cornwall,
Mr. Pindarves, came to reside there, and that
fentleman directed her to brew some good ale, as
e should occasionally visit the place with his
friends. On one of bis visits he was disappointed,
and expressed himself angry at not finding any ale-
It appeared on explanation that a Dutch vessel
came mto the harbour the preceding day, and the
Dutchmen drained her supply ; she said the Pemtg
anae ao guiek, she could not refuse to sell it.
JlHES COBKIEH.
Falmouth.
Captain Booth of Stoehport (Vol. viii., p. 102.).
— In answer to Mr. Hdgbes'b inquiry about this
antiquary, I beg to state that he will find an
Ordinary of Arms, drawn up by Captain Booth
of Stockport, in the Shepherd Library, Preston,
Lancashire. It is one among the numerous valu-
able MSS. given by the executors of the Iota
historian of Xancashire, Ed. Bnines, Esq., M.P.,
to that library. In Lysons' Magna j
(volume Cheshire), your c
indent will also
find a mention of a John Booth, Lsq., of Twemlow,
Cheshire, who was the author of various heraldlo
manuscripts. It may, perhaps, be hardly necessary
to inform Cheshire antiquaries that an almost in-
exhaustible fund of information, on heraldry and
eenealo^, ia to be found in tbe manuscripta of
Kondle Holme, formerly of Chester, whioi are
Aug. 20. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
185
now preserved among the Harleian MSS. in the
British Museum. Jattee.
" Hurrah,'' ^c. (Vol. viii., p. 20.).— The clameur
de Haro still exists in Jersey, and is. the ancient
form there of opposing all encroachments on
landed property, and the first step to be taken hj
which an ejectment can be finally obtained. It
was decided in Pinel and Le Gallais, that the
clameur de Haro does not apply to the opposal of
the execution of a decree of the Royal Court.
It is a remarkable feature in this process, that
it is carried on by the crown ; and that the losing
party, whether plaintiff or defendant, is mulcted
in a small fine to the king, because the sacred
name of Haro is not to be carelessly invoked with
impunity.
See upon the subject of the clameur, Le Geyt
sur les Constitutions, etc, de Jersey, par Marett,
vol. i. p. 294. M. L.
Lincoln's Inn.
I do not think that the explanation of these
words, quoted by Mr. Beent, is much more pro-
bable than that of " Hierosolyma est perdita." In
the first place, if we are to believe Dr. Johnson,
hips are not sloes, but the fruit or seed-vessels of
the dog-rose or briar, which usually go by that
name, and from which it would be difficult to
make any infusion resembling wine. In the next
place, it will be found, on reference to Ben Jon-
son's lines " over the door at the entrance into the
Apollo" (vol. vii. p. 295., ed. 1756), of which the
distich forms a part, that it is misquoted. The
words are, —
" Hang up all the poor ^op-drink crs,
Cries old Sym, the king of skinkers;"
the hop or ale-drinkers being contrasted with the
votaries of wine, " the milk of Venus," and " the
true Phoebeian liquor." Is it not possible, after
all, that the repetition of, " Hip, hip, hip," is
merely intended to mark the time for the grand
exertion of the lungs to be made in enunciating
the final " Hurrah !" ? Cheverells.
Detached Belfry Towers (Vol. vii., p. 333. ;
Vol. viii., p. 63.). — The bell-tower at Hackney,
mentioned by B. H. C, is that of the old parish
church of St. Augustine. This church was rebuilt
in the early part of the sixteenth century, which
is about the time of the present tower ; and when
the church was finally taken down in 1798, the
tower was forced to be left standing, because the
new parish church of St. John-at-Hackney was
not strong enough to support the peal of eight
bells. H. T. Grifeith.
Hull.
Blotting-paper (Yol.Ym., p. 104.). — I am dis-
posed to agree with Speriend in thinking Carlyle
must be mistaken in saying this substance was not
used in CromwellV time. The ordinary means for
drying writing was by means of the fine silver
sand, now but rarely used for that purpose ; but
I have seen pieces of blotting-paper among MSS.
of the time of Charles I., so as to lead me to think
it was even then used, though sparingly. This is^
only conjecture ; but I can, however, establish its
existence at a rather earlier date than 1670. In
an "Account of Stationery supplied to the Receipt
of the Exchequer and the Treasury, 1666 — 1668,"
occur several entries of " one quire of blotting-
paper," "two quires of blotting," &c. Earlier
accounts of the same kind (which may be at the
Rolls House, Chancery Lane) might enable one to
fix the date of its introduction. J. B — t»
The following occurs in Townesend's Preparative
to Pleading (Lond. 12mo. 1675), p. 8. :
** Let the dusting or sanding of presidents in books
be avoided, rather using Jine brown paper to prevent bhi-
ting, if time of the ink's drying cannot be alloured ; for
sand takes away the good colour of the ink,* and getting
into the backs of books makes them break their
binding."
From this passage it may be inferred, that fine
brown paper, to prevent blotting, was then rather
a novelty. C. H. Coopeb.
Cambridge.
Biddies for the Post- Office (Vol. vii., p. 258.),—
The following is an exact copy of the direction of
a letter mailed a few years ago by a German living
in Lancaster county. Pa. :
" Tis is fur old Mr. Willy wot brinds de Baber in
Lang Kaster ware ti gal is gist rede him assume as it
cums to ti Pushtufous."
meaning —
** This is for old Mr. Willy, what prints the paper in
Lancaster, where the jail is. Just read him as soon as
it comes to the Post- Office."
Inclosed was an essay against public schools.
Uneda.
Philadelphia.
Midciher (Vol. viii., p. 102.).— I beg to inform
Mr. Wardb that in the printed Key to the Dis-
pensary it is said, " *Tis the opinion of many that
our poet means here Mr. Thomas Foley, a lawyer
of notable parts." T. K,
KOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
Although, like Canning's knife-grinder, we do not
care to meddle with politics, we have one volume on
our table belonging to that department of life which
deserves passing mention, we mean Mr. Urquhart's
Progress of Russia in the West, North, and ^outh, ly
opening the Sources of Opinion, and appropriating the
186
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The English, Iribh, and Scotch Knights of the Order of
St. John of Jerusalem, by William Wlnlhrop - - 189
Diiport's Lines to Izaak Walton - - - - 193
tihakspearo CMrrespondencc*, by C. Mansfield Inglcby,
James Cornish, ike. ..... 193
Minor Notes : — Sir Francis Drake — Similarltv of Idea
in St. Luke and Juvenal — Sincere — Epitaph 'in
Appleby Ctmrchyard, liCicestershire - - -196
<2(^GRIB8 : —
The Crescent, by W. Robson
. 19G
JBIiNOR QuEHiBS : — The Hebrew Testament — Dr.
Franklin — Flemish Refugees— " Sad are the rose
leaves " — References wanted — Tea-marks —William
the Conqueror's Surname — Old Saying— To pluck
a Crow with One — *' Well's a fret " — Pay the Piper
— Greek Inscription upon a Font, mentioned by
Jeremy Taylor— Acharts — Attainment of Maiority—
>lartman's Account of Waterloo _ Henry Chicheley,
Archbishop of Canterbury— Translation of Atheneeut
— Passages from Euripides — Anderson's Royal Gene-
alogies .-.----
']Ml.iGELLANB0U8 '. —
Books and Odd Volumes wanted -
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisements . . .
196
Minor Queries with Answers : — Louis le Hutla - 199
S^KPUBs: —
Bee- Park — Bee- Hall 199
Milton's Widow, by J. F. Marsh and T. Hughes - 200
J'cculiar Ornament in Crosthwalte Church • - 20)
Curious Mistranslations, by Henry H. Breen - - 2Ul
♦• To speak in lutestring." by the Rev. W. Eraser - 202
vBurial in Unconsecrated Places, by Wm. T. Hesleden
and R. W. Elliot 202
Photographic Correspondbncb:— Mr. Muller's Pro-
cess-— Detail ou Negative Paper — Ammonlo-nltrate
of Silver • - - - - - - 203
Heplies to Minor Quebies: — "Up, guards, and at
them I " — German Heraldry — The Kye — Canute's
Point, Southampton — Symon Patrick, Bishnp of Ely:
Durham: Weston — Battle of Villers en Couch6 —
•Curious Posthumous Occurrence— PasHuge In Job —
'St. Paul and Svneca — Haiilf naked — Books chained
•to Desks in Churches — Scheltrum— Quarrel — Wild
Plants, and their Names — Jeremy Taylor and Chris,
topher Lord Hatton — Burial on the North Side of
Churches — Rubrical Query — Stone Pillar Worship
— - Bad — Porc-pisee — Luwbell — Praying to the West
— Old Dog— Contested Klections — " Rathe" in the
Sense of "early "—Chip in Forrit«ge — " A saint in
'crape is twice a saint in lawn " — Gibbon s Library :
West's Portrait of Franklin — Derivation of " Island"
— Spur— On the Use of the Hour-glass in Pulpits —
Selling a Wife — Impossibilities of History — Lad and
Lass — Enough ....-- 204
- 210
. 210
. 210
VoL.VIir. — No.200.
THE ENOLISU, IRISH, AND SCOTCH KNIGHTS OF
THB ORDER OF ST. JOHN OF JERUSALEM.
For the following list of the English, Irish, and
Scotch knights of the Order of St. John, who are
mentioned in the records of this Island when
under its rule, I am in a great measure indebted
to Dr. Vella, who, after having made at my re-
quest a diligent search through very many old
volumes and manuscripts, has kindly favoured me
with the result of his labours. The names of the
knights and places mentioned in this Note are
written, in every instance, as Dr. Vella and my-
self have seen them recorded. Before commenc-
ing with the list, I have a few remarks to offer,
that the terms peculiar to the Order which I shall
make use of may be understood by those of your
readers who are unacquainted with its history.
The English tongue comprised the priories of
England, fieland, and Scotland, and thirty-two
different commanderies. Its property, which was
seized by Henry VIIF. in 1534, was afterwards
restored by Queen Mary, and finally and effec-
tually confiscated by Elizabeth in the first year
of her reign. Her Majesty's order for the seizure
of the Irish estates was duted on the 3rd of June,
1559, and addressed to William Fitzwilliam.
Vide the " Diplomatic Code of the Order," and
Rymer, vol. xv. p. 527.
Although Dr. Vella and myself had every wish
to classify the knights of the English tongue
under their different languages, still we have
failed in our first attempt, and to enable us to
succeed we must ask for assistance from your cor-
respondents in England. Tbey must be known
by their names ; thus, for instance, the Dundas*s of
1524 and 1538 were as evidently of Scotch, as the
Russells of 1536, 1537, and 1554 were of English
descent. We might apply the same remark to
many other knights whose names will be found
recorded in the Ujllowing list.
Whenever a vacancy occurred by the death of
a grand master, who was always a sovereign
prince, the election for bis successor could only-
take place in the convent. It was not necessary that
the person elected should be present. Villiers De
190
NOTES AND QUERIES.
£No. 200.
L'Isle Adam was residing m France in 1521, when
his brethren at Rhodes made him their chief. The
grand priors, commanders, and knights, who were
absent from Malta, whether employed in the
service of the Order or not, had neither a voice nor
ballot in the election ; and the more effectually to
prevent their interference, as also that of the
Roman pontiff, only three days were allowed to
transpire before a successor was chosen, and pro-
claimed as the head of the convent.
Henry VIII. addressed L' Isle Adam as follows :
" Reverendissimo in Christo Patri Domini, F. de
Villers L. Isleadam, Magno Hierosolymitani Or-
dinis Magistro, et consanguineo, et amico nostro
carissimo." George II., as the king of a Protestant
country, sent a letter to Emmanuel Pinto, bear-
ing the following superscription : " Eminentissimo
Prineipi Domino Emmanuel! Pinto, Magno Or-
dinifi Melitensis Magistro, Consanguineo, et Amico
Nostro Carissimo."
Boisgelin hns stated in the first volume of his
History of Malta, p. 194., that the —
** King of England addressed the grand master by
the following titles: * Eminentissime princeps consan.
guinea et amice noster carissime.' The King of
France gave the Order the title of * Tres chers et bons
amis ; * and the grand master that of * Tres cher et tres
wame cousin,' in the same style as he addressed the
Dukes of Tuscany."
That this note may not occupy too much space
in your interesting publication, I would now
merely remark that the " convent ** was known as
the place where the grand master, or his lieute-
nant, resided, and the *' tongue," according to the
code of the Order, was the term applied to a
nation. A grand prior was the chief of his lan-
guage, who resided in his native country. A
" Turcopolier " was the title of the conventual
bailiff of the venerable language of England, *' and
it took its name from the Turcopoles, a sort of
light horse mentioned in the history of the wars
carried on by the Christians in Palestine." The
English knights won for themselves this high
honour by their gallantry in the Holy Land, and
in remembrance it ever after remained with their
tongue. A Turcopolier was the third dignity in
the convent, and the last knight who enjoyed it
was Sir Richard Shelley, Prior of England. At
bis decease the grand master assumed the title for
Itimself. The two interesting letters addressed
by Sir Richard Shelley to Henry VIII., in which
he complained of his majesty's treatment to the
Order of St. John, and pleaded in its favour, were
published in the English language, and five years
ago were to be seen in the government library of
this island. But, on my asking a short th»e ago to
refer to them, I regretted to find that they had
been taken from the library by a genHeman who
was well introduced to the librarian, afid whose
eondaet in this, and some other tranBactioiis where
valuable l)ooks are concerned, cannot be too
strongly condemned. Before returnins? from this
brief digression to the subject of my Note, might
I ask if these letters are known in England, and
whether copies could be easily procured for a
friend who is desirous of having them inserted in
a forthcoming publication?
The Knights of St. John being members of a
masonic institution, termed each other brothers, as
is customary with members of the craft at the
present time. And it may not be out of place to
remark that several of the chapels, churches, and
fortifications of !Malta are ornamented with, ma-
sonic signs and emblems, which have been several
times referred to, and cleverly explained within
the last three years in different numbers of the
Masonic Quarterly Review* Those of your
readers who take an interest in masonry may
peruse these papers of a distinguished mason, now
stationed in the West Indies, with instruction and
pleasure.
Boisgelin has recorded in the first volume of his
History of Malta, p. 182., that the Order of St.
John of Jerusalem ** might with propriety be con-
sidered as being at the same time hospitaller, re-
ligious, military, republican, aristocratical, mon-
archical," and lastly, as if these different terms,
which, without his explanation, would appear to
be incorrect as applying to one institution, were
not suflScient, he has added in a note, that in the
last days of its existence it might also have been
called democratical. He has stated that it was —
** Hospitaller, from having hospitals constantly open
for the reception of the sick of all coimtries and re-
ligions, M'hom the knights attended in persMi. Re-
ligious, because the memhers took the three vows of
chastity, obedience, and poverty, whicili last eonsisted
in havinj( no property independent of the Order at
large, aad on that account the Pope was their superior.
Military, from being constantly armed, ffid always at
war vith the infidels. Republican, as their chief was
chosen from anr>ong themselves, and could not enact
laws, or carry them into execution, without their con-
sent. Arifitocratical, since none but the k»i^fats and
grand master had any share in the legislartive and ex-
ecutive power. Monardiical, from having a superior
who could not be dispossessed of his dij^raty, and iras
invested with the right of sovereignty over the subjects
of the order, together with those of Malta and ite de-
pendencies. And lastly, Democratical, from the in-
troduction of a language which did not reijiiire any
proofs of nobility.**
Before taking leave of Boisgelin, it should be
recorded that he was a Knight of Malta ; and his
history, one of the best now extant., appeared in
* The language to which Boisgelin re&rs, warn that
of England. A iexv years afler the Reformation, and
in 15^5^ the council decreed that it was no longer re-
quired for those who joined the English tongue to be
noblemen. Vide fol. 35.
AtJG. 27. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
191
ihoee troubled tim«s, wlien lie hoped bj eondli-
ating all gavenimeixts, to see his Order again re-
stored. Inflaenced in fill tbii^s by thk hope,
yain os it was, his Btatemests diouki be received
with some grains of allowance.
Before calling attention to the following list, I
have to state that a knight could not becoane a
commander before he had made four cruises in
the galleys, or served five years in the convent.
He had also to remain three years a commander
before he could claim a pension. Those knights
who are known to have been at Malta will be dis-
tinguished by a t-
A.
f Aylmer, Sir George - - - .
Commander of Holstone.
Adfil, George -----
Albrit, Oliver - - - - .
B.
Bouth, John - - - - -
Turcopolier, killed at the siege of Rhodes.
Blasly, Robert - - - - -
Boydel, Edward - - - - -
fBabttngton, John - - - - -
Bailiff of Agaila, Commander of Dslbj.
tBabington, Philip - - - - -
jBelingham, Edward - - - -
Commander of Dynmore.
fBalfard, Richard - - - - -
fBrown, Edward - - - - -
f Broke, Richard - - - - -
Commander of Mount St. John.
Boydel, George - - - - -
Boydel, Roger - - - - -
Turcopolier.
fBentham, Anthony - - - -
Boyse, Andrew - - - - -
c.
Corbet, William - - - -
Commander of Templebruer.
Cane, Sir Ambrose - - -
Chanure, John - - - -
Campledik, Tihomas ...
Commander of 'Carbr&ke,
Chambers, Sir James - - -
D.
Deston, Claude . - - .
Docray, Thomas - . - .
Prior of the English tongue.
T)undas, George - - . -
Commander of Tarfichin in Scotland.
•fDingley, Thomas - - - -
1521
1524
1527
1522
- 1526
- L529
- 1531
- 1531
- 1531
- 1531
- 1531
- 1531
- 1532
- 1533
- 1536
- 1588
- 1522
- 1525
- 1525
- 1529
- 1533
- 1522
- 1523
- 1524
. 1531
fDundas, Alexander .... 1538
Dudley, Gewge - - - - . 1546
Received in the Order at Malta tn 1545.
E.
Edward, George - ... - 1525
•fEluyn, Edmund ... - - 1545
Received in the 0*der at Malta in 1545.
F.
Fairfax, Nicholas 1522
Commander of T«mp1e Combe.
Fitzmorth, Robert .... 1527
Fortescue, Adrian .... 15^
This brave knight perished on the iBcaffi»ld in Eng-
land at the time of the Reformation (vide
*'N.& Q.," Vol. viL, p. 628.); was enrolled among-
the Saints ; and his portrait, with a sprig of palm
in the hand, as an emblem of his martyrdom, is
now to be seen in one of the chapels of St. John's
Church at this island. The 8th of July is the
day now observed in commemoration of his suf-
ferings, and of those who suffered with him.
Fortescue, Nicholas - . - - 1638
This nobleman, of the same family as die preceding,
was received in the Order on bis own urgent ap-
plication ; and with the hope that, by bis assist-^
ance, the English language would be restered.
G.
- 152a
Golings, Thomas - - - -
Commander of Bbdisford.
tGonson, Sir David - - - - 1533
The last lieutenant of the Turcopolier at Malta.
fGerard, Sir Jlenry - . - . 1541
Glene, Lewis - - . - - 1^55
H.
Hyerton, George -
Hall, Thomas
fHa-lison, James
Hufisey, Edmund -
Hussey, Nicholas -
HiU, Edward
■fHoi'nehill, Thomas
I.
- 1523
- 1S36
- 1526
- 1528
- 1531
- 1531
- um
1569
Irving, James - - . - .
Solely by the strenuous exertions of this knight it
was decided, in a general chapter held in l£69f
that the Scotch should enjoy the s»me dignities
and emoluments whidi bad been <previeusly
granted to the English and Irish knights.
Jones, William
J.
L.
Laytcm, AznJwxMe -
Commander ef Beveriy.
- 1522
- 1627
192
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 200.
Layton, Cuthbert
Lyndesey, Walter
Lambert, Nicholas
Mobysteyn, John -
- 1528
- 1532
- 1538
M.
- 1526
Capellano, and Chancellor, of the Provincial Chap-
ter of the English Language.
Massinbert, Oswaldus - - - - 1527
N.
Newport, Thomas - - - -1528
Bailiff of Aquila, and Commander of Newland.
Nevil, Richard 1528
Commander of Willington.
Newton, Thomas 1529
- 1536
Newdegatt, Donston
O.
Ozis, John.
On the 1 6th of March, 1 533, this knight obtained
permission to return to England. Vide fol. 1 68.
P.
Pole, Alban - - - -
Commander of Mount St. John.
Philip, Thomas - - - -
Plunket, Nicholas - - -
Pool, George - - - -
Pool, Henry . - - -
Pemperton, Thomas - - -
Commander of Mount St. John.
- 1520
- 1521
. 1527
- 1531
- 1531
- 1533
R.
1521
Ransom, John (Senior)
Prior of Ireland.
Roberts, Nicholas - - - - 1522
Roche, Edward 1527
Ransom, William ----- 1527
tRoger, Anthony ----- 1533
fRansom, John (Junior) - - - 1533
Turcopolier.
tRussell, Philip 1536
fRuBsell, Anthony ----- 1537
•(•Russell, Egidius ----- 1554
Governor of the city, and Captain of the forces.
S.
Sheffield, Thomas -
Commander of Beverly.
Sand, George
f Sandiland, James -
Sutton, John
Salisbury, William
fStarkey, Oliver -
- 1521
- 1528
- 1530
- 1530
- 1537
- 1555
Confidential secretary of La Valetta, and buried in
St. John*s Churchy at the foot of his tomb.
tShelley, Sir Richard - - - - 1566
Prior of England, and last Turcopoltefr of his lan-
guage. On the 25th of June, 1567, Sir Richard
obtained permission to dispose of his property as
he wished.
fShelley, James ----- 1566
j-Shelley, John 1582
fStuart, Fitzjames 1689
A natural son of James IL A letter is now exist-
ing in which this monarch requested the Grand
Master to receive his son as Grand Prior of the
English language, if it should be agreeable Co the
will of the Pope. It may be noted that the
Germans were the only knights in the Convent
who would never admit a natural son of a noble
or monarch among them.
Theril, William
Tyrell, William
- 1533
- 1535
U.
Urton, George ----- 1523
Upton, Nicholas ----- 1536
Turcopolier, and greatly distinguished in July,
1551, when, at the hesd of thirty knights and
four hundred mounted volunteers, he very gal-
lantly repulsed Dragufs attack on the island.
Returning to the convent he died of his wounds.
On the 20th of June, 1565, Dragut fell mortally
wounded in the famous siege of Malta, and the
point where he was killed still bears hb name.
His scimetar is now to be seen in the Maltese
armoury.
w.
Wagor, John - - - . - 1523
Weston, Sir William - - - - . 1525
A brief historical description of Sir William
Weston's sufferings, decease, and burial will be
found in the second volume of Sutherland's
Kniyhts of Malta, p. 115., which appears to be a
correct translation from Vertot's Wsiory of the
Order.— Vide « N. & Q.," Vol. vil, p. 629. ; and
Vertot, lib. 10.
Wyhtt, Sir Rowland - - - . 1528
West, Clement - - - . . 1532
This knight was a Turcopolier, and never placed
his signature to a document without writing im-
mediately above it " As God wills."
Wise, Andrew ----- 1593
Nominally Prior of England in 1598. Being re-
duced to the greatest extremity, the Roman
Pontiff decreed that the language of Castile and
Leon should allow him out of its revenue a
thousand ducats a-year. The Spanish knights
objecting to pay this sum, there was a trial
before the Grand Master to enforce it ; a report
of which is now in the Record Office. Tiie
Popc*s decree was confirmed.
Aug. 27. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
193
In looking through the records of the " English
tongue," I have met with the name of only one
lady, Catherine Burchier, who was prioress of
Buckland in 1524. Any information respecting
her history, or that of the knights whose names
are recorded in the above list, will be most ac-
ceptable. William AVinthrop.
La Valctta, Malta.
DUPORTS LINES TO IZAAK WALTON.
Sometime since I met with the following epigrams
of the learned scholar, divine, and loyalist James
Duport, written on the fly-leaf of a copy of his Muses
SubsecivcBj seu Poetica Stromata, presented by him
to Izaak Walton. I presume that they have never
been printed, and that they were written inDuport's
own hand. If so, they may be thought worthy of
a place in the columns of " N. & Q." They will
be read with some interest by those who respect
Duport, and love the memory of good old Izaak
Walton. I may add, that the autograph of I. W.
is in the book, thus :
"Izaak Walton",
Given by the Author,
so May, 1679."
" Ad virum optimum mihique amicissimum Isaacum
Waltonum, de Hbris a se editis, mihique doDO missis,
nee non de vita Hookeri, Herbert!, et aliorum :
Munera magna mihi mittis ; nee mittis in hamo
Rex Piscatorum sis licet, atque Pater.
Mutus ego ut piscis semper 1 nunquamne reponam ?
Piscibus immo tuis et tibi mitto Sales :
Sed quid pro vitis Sanctorum ? mitto Salutem ;
Vita etenim non est vita, Salutis inops.
Tuissimus,
J. D."
<< Ad cundem de sua Episcopi Sanderson! Vita.
Quern Juvenis quondam didici, Tutore magistro,
Nunc Sandersonum, te duce, disco Senex.
Macte nove o Plutarche Biographe ; dans aliorum
Qui vitas, vitam das simul ipse tibi :
Nempe erls oeternum in Scriptis, Waltone, superstes,
Non etenitn nurunt hacc monumenta mori.
J. Duport,"
Winchester.
W. H. G.
SHAKSPEARE COBBESPONDENCE.
ZacTiaridh Jackson, — "N. & Q." will not, I am
sure, refuse to give his due to Zachariah Jackson,
the author of Shakspeare's Genius Justified^ by
showing to how great an extent the conjectures
of Jackson had, by thirty-four years, anticipated
the Notes and Emendations, I subjoin a list of the
old corrector's emendations, which are also found
in Jackson's work :
Play.
Text.
Emendation.
Paeeia
Corner.
Pa^ein
JadiLson.
Two Gentlemen of Verona, Act 11. Sc. 1, -
Merry Wive« of Windsor, Act I. Sc. a -
Measure for Measure, Act I. Sc, S. • -
Ditto Ditto ActIILSc.2. .
Taming of the Shrew, Act IV. Sc. 4. -
All's Well that Ends Well. Act III. Sc. 1. -
Twelfth Night, Act V. Sc. 1. -
Winter's Tale, Act IV. Sc. 3. - - -
Henry V., Act V. Sc. 2.
" In telling her mind."
" She carves"
** Propagation of a dower."
" What say'st thou, trot?'*
" Except they are busied."
** Happiness and prime."
'• TAen cam'st in smiling."
" So attir'd, sworn."
" Untempering eflTect."
" In telling ^ott her mind."
" She craves."
•• Procuration of a dower."
♦* What say'st thou, troth f "
" Except while they are busied."
" Happiness in prima"
" Thou cam'st in smiling."
« So attir'd, so worn."
" Untempting eflfect."
18.
30.
43.
49.
152.
159.
181.
192.
264.
9.
17.
44.
127.
89.
31.
142.
229.
Besides these nine verbatim coincidences, the fol-
lowing four are very approximate.
Taming of the Shrew, Induction, Sc. 2. :
Folios. — "And when he says he is, say that he dreams."
Collier MS. — "When he says what he is, say that he
dreams." — Notes and Emendations, p. 142.
Jackson.— ." And what lie says he is, say that he
dreams." — JRestorations and lUustrations, p. 114.
Taming of the Shrew, Act 11. Sc 1. :
Folios.—" No such jade, Sir, as you, if me you mean."
Collier MS — " No such jade to bear you, if me you
mean." — Notes and Emeitdations, p. 147.
Jackson. — ** No such jade as 5"ou, — bear ! if me you
mean,"— Restorations and Illustrations, p. 11 9.
1 Henry VI., Act V. Sc. 3. :
Folios. — " Confounds the tongue, and makes the senses
rough,"
Collier MS. — " Confounds the tongue, and mocks the
sense of touch,'* — Notes and Emendations, p. 276.
Jackson. — " Confounds the tongue, and makes the
senses touch,*' — Restorations and Illustrations, p. 233.
Cymbeline, Act III. Sc. 4. :
Folios. — . , . . " Some jay of Italy,
Whose mother was her painting, hath betrayed him."
Collier MS. — "Who smothers her with painting, hath
betrayed him." — Notes and Emendations, p. 495.
Jackson. — " Who smoother was : her painting hath be*
tray'd him." — Restorations and Illustrations, p. 375.
Besides these four emendations, which at any
rate are very suggestive of those in Mr. Collier 8
folio, I beg to caU attention to Jackson's defence
of TheobSd's (and his own) proposition to read
untread for unthread, in King John, Act V. Sc. 4.,
which is strikingly like Mr. Collier's defence of
the same reading in the margin of the Folio 1632.
194
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 200.
The whole of Jackson^s notes on King John are
wdl worth reading. I beg to mention two of
these, as iHustrations of oil Jackson*s acuteness,
when not under the warping influence of the ca-
coethes emendandi. His defence of untrimmed
bride, in Act IL Sc. 1., is most convincing. He
says, —
" Constance stimulates [Lewis] to stand fast to his
purpose, and not to let the devil tempt him, in the like-
ness of an untrimmed bride, to waver in his determin-
ation ; for that the influence of the Holy See would
strip King John of his present royalty. Where then
would be the great dowry Lewis was to receive with
his wife? At present he has only the promise of five
provinces, and 30,000 marks of English coin ; there-
fore, as the dowry has not been paid, Blanche is still
Mt tnUrimmmi bride." — BecoUeciiona and lllustrationst
p. 179.
His note on the use ot invisible, in Act V. Sc. 7.,
is also excellent :
*' Death having prayed upon the reduced body of the
king, quits it, and now invisible, has laid siege to the
mind.**
I have elsewhere stated my opinion that -'^ all
Jackson's emendations are bad." I should have
added that some few are very plausible and spe-
cious, and worthy of consideration. I will men-
tion one in King Jokti, Act lY. Sc. 2. Pembroke
says, —
** If, what tit rest you have, in right you hold," &c.
Now, rest and rigJit are no antithesis, nor are they
allied in meaning. Jackson inserts a f between in
and rest —
" If, what infrest you have in right you hold," &c. —
which lie supports by admirable parallels from the
same play. I will cite one more example of Jack-
son's sagacity, from his notes on 1 Henry I V., Act L
Sc. 3. Plotspur says, —
*' Never did hare and rotten policy," &c.
Jackson reads, —
« Never did barren, rotten policy," &c.
Mr. Collier never once refers to Jackson. Mr.
Singer, however, talks familiarly about Jackson,
in his Shakspeare Vindicated, as if he had him at
his fingers' eids ; and yet, at page 239., he favours
the world with an original emendation (viz. " He
did hehood his anger," Timon, Act HI. Sc. 1.),
which, however, will be found at page 389. of
Jackson's book. I may be in error, but I cannot
but think such ignorance, on the part of profes-
sional Shakspearians, very culpable.
C. Mansfield Ingleby.
Birmingham.
On Three Pftssages in " Meam»refor Measvre.^^
— I have to crave a small space in your columns,
which have already done much good service kit
the text of Shakspeare, to aiake a very few re-
marks on three passages in the play of Measure
for Measure. It is no sweeping change of reading
that I am about to advocaite, nor, as I think, any-
thing over ingenious ; inasmuch as, in two of the
passages in question, I propose to defend the
reading of the first folio, which, I contend, has
been departed from unnecessarily ; while, in the
third, I suggest the simple change of an f into
an s.
In Act II. Sc. 4., these lines occur in Angelo's
soliloquy, in my folio of 1623 :
" The state whereon I studied
Is like a good thing, being often read,
Growne feard and tedious."
Mr. Knight, and other editors, read /card, as in
the original, but give no explanation ; though such
a strange epithet would seem to require one. I
propose to read seared, i.e. dry, the opposite of
fresn. This, as the saying is, *' retjuires," I think,
" only to be pointed out to be admitted."
Lower down in the same scene we find the
following passage, in one of Angelo's addresses to
Isabel :
** Such a person.
Whose creadlt with the judge, or owne great place,
Could fetch your brother from the manacles
Ofthe all. building law."
The word building has always been a stumbling-
block to editors. Johnson first proposed to read
binding, and his successors have adopted it, and
such is now the generally received reading. Mr.
Collier's old corrector is also in favour of the
same change. I have always felt convinced, how-
ever, that building was the word which Shakspeare
wrote. That which answers to it in the A.-S* is
bytling, hytleing, a building ; bytUem^ to bvild ,*
which are inflected from byth, biotuL, a hammer or
mallet (whence our beetle) ; so that the strict
meaning of the verb is Jirmare, confirm€are^ to
fasten, close, or bind together. This will ^ive
much the same meaning to building as that im-
plied in the proposed substitute binding.
Not having met with the word used inr this
peculiar sense by any old writer, I covdd not
venture to maintain the reading of the folk) on
these grounds, which I have just mentioned, aloiie.
At length, however, I have been successful^ and I
am now able to quote a passage from a wodc
published very shortly before this play, entitled :
« The Jewel House of Art and Nature," &c., ** Wth-
fuUy and familiarly set downe according to the
Author's owne experience, by Hugh Platte, of I4b-
coln's Inne, geutleniaii« London, 1594."
in which this word building is used in precisely
the same sense as that whicn I defend. In ^ tiie
Preface of the Author,** the following passage
occurs :
** I made a eondieioaall promise of some farther dis-
couerie in arteficiall conceipts, then either mj health
Aug. 27. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
195
or leisure would then permit : I am now resolued
(notwithstanding the vnkind acceptation of my first
fruits, which then I feared and hath since falne out, is
a sufficient release in law of the condition) to make the
same in some sort absolute (though not altogether
according to the fulnesse of my first purpose), and to be-
come a building word unto me."
I apprehend that this parallel instance is all
tliat is wanting to preserve, for the future, the
reading of the first folio unimpaired.
The third passage on which I have a remark to
offer, is that much tormented one in Act III.
Sc. 1., which stands in my first folio thus :
" Cla. The prenzie, Angelo ?
Isa. Oh, 'tis the cunning liuerie of hell,
The damnest bodie to inuest, and couer
lu prenzie gardes."
I need not say a word about the various sug-
gestions of primzie, priestly, princely, precise, &c.,
which have appeared from time to time ; my
business is solely with the original word in the
first folio. I have always felt sure that this is
none other than the poet*s own word, and no error
of the printer ; for how could it be possible to
make a gross mistake in a word which occurs
twice within four lines, and one, moreover, so un-
usual ; the printer must surely have been able to
decipher the letters from one of the two written
specimens. It will be observed that there is a
comma after prenzie in the original, indicating
that the word is a substantive, not an adjective.
Now what is the Italian for a prince? Not only
principe, but also prenze; and in like manner we
find principessa and prenzessa, I have no doubt
that what bhakspeare did write was —
** The prenzie, Angelo ? "
while a little lower down he converted the word
into an adjective :
" To inuest and couer
In prenzie gardes."
It is obvious to remark that this meaning of
prenzie exactly fits the sense : Angelo was a prince,
and he was clad in robes of ofEce, adorned with
princely " gardes," or trappings. Shakspeare, no
doubt, was very well acquainted with Italian
tales and poems ; the word may have become
quite familiar to him. His intention here, in put-
ting the term in question into Claudio's mouth,
may have been to give an Italian character to the
scene, introducing thus the local term of dignity of
the deputy; thus recalling the audience, by the
occurrence of a single word, to the scene of the
plot ; for though this is said to be in Vienna, yet
it is to be observed that not a name throughout
the play is German, everything is Italian. And
let it not be objected that the use of this word
involves an obscurity which Shakspeare would
have avoided ; we are hardly able to judge, now-
a-days, whether a particular word was obscure or
not in his time : at all events,, there would be no
difi[iculty in adducing instances of what we should
call more obscure allusions, and I think there can
be little doubt that the well-educated in those
days well understood the Italian prenze to mean a
prince. H. C. K.
Rectory, Hereford.
^^ Hamlet'* and G, Steevens. — In Act I. Sc. 4.,
Horatio asks Hamlet : *' What does this mean, my
Lord?" (The noise of music within). Hamlet
replies :
" The king doth wake to-night, and takes his rouse.
Keeps wassel, and tJte swaggering up-sprii^ reels***
G. Steevens, in a note of this passage, says:
" The swaggering up-spring was a German danced
Is not the allusion directed to the king, whom
Hamlet describes as " a swaggering up'Spring,^ or
" upstart f " Should not the line —
" O horrihUt O horribhy most horrible ! **
in the Ghost's narrative in ih.^ fifth scene, be given
to Hamlet ? James Cornish.
Falmouth.
Sir Francis Drake. — Having traversed the
globe within three years, his travels were thus
noticed by a poet of his day :
" Drake, pererraii novit quern terminus orhis,
Quemque semel mundi vidlt uterquc Polus.
Si tacuant homines, faciant te sidera notum,
Sol uescit comitis non memor esse sui."
G1.EBICUS (D.)
Similarity of Idea in St. Lvke and Juvenal. ^-^
Examples of identity of expression existing be-
tween the Scriptures and ancient heathen writers
have already appeared in " N. & Q." Permit me
to add the following passages, which appear to me
to afford an instance of similarity of idea :
" hiyu vfjuVf Zri iky odrot, ciwirijatMriyf oi \idoi jccjcp^-
loyroi." — Luc. cap xix. v. 40.
*' Audis,
Jupiter, haec, nee labra moves, quum mittere vocem
Dcbueras, vel roarmoreos, vel aeneus?
Juven. Sat. xiii. v. 113.
The satirist would seem to say (taking the sor-
tie's view), that even if Jupiter existed only la
brass and marble, the very statues would "cry
out " against the impious perjury.
I drop my initials, and beg to subscribe myself
Abch. Wsn.
Sincere.— Trench, On the Study of Words,, 4 A
ed., p. 197., says :
** They would be pleased to learn tliat ' sincere ' may
be, I will not say that it is, without wax (sine cer&}»
as the best and finest honey sliould be.*^
196
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 20a
Is not this derivation erroneous ? Sincere does
not mean "pure, like virgin-honey;" but it ex-
presses the absence of deception. I doubt not
that it is derived from —
" The practice of Roman potters to rub wax into the
flaws of their unsound vessels when they sent them to
market. A sincere [without wax] vessel was the same
as a sound vessel, one that had no disguised flaw."
So says Bushnell (God in Christ, p. 17.). The
derivation is no novelty. I reproduce it merely
to correct an error which is obtaining currency
under the name of Mr. French. I should he
obliged to any of your correspondents who would
refer me to, or still better cite, any passages in
the Latin classics relating to the practice I have
mentioned. C. Mansfield Ingleby.
Birmingham.
Epitaph in Applehy Church-yard, Leicester'
shire, —
" T was a fine young man,
As you would sec in ten.
And when I thought of this,
I took in hand my pen,
And wrote it down so plain
That every one might see ;
How I was cut down,
Like blossoms from a tree.**
J. G. L.
<Si\itxit^*
THE CRESCENT.
I shall be obliged to any correspondent of
** N. & Q." who will point out the period at
which the crescent became the standard of Ma-
hometanism. Poets and romancers freely bestow
it upon any time or scene in which Mussulmans
are introduced ; Sir Walter Scott mentions it
in the Talisman, but after the strange liberties
he has taken with Saladin and Richard, he be-
comes, on such a question, no higher authority
than writers of meaner name. I cannot find it in
the history of Mahomet, or in that of his imme-
diate successors. The first time Michaud, in his
fine Histoire des Croisades, speaks of it is in the
reign of Mahomet II., which is many centuries
after periods at which modern poets, and even
historians, have named it as the antagonistic
standard to the cross. The crescent is common
upon the reverses of coins of the Eastern empire
long before the Turkish conquest, and was, I have
reason to believe, in some degree peculiar to the
Sclave nations. Was it the standard of the Turks,
as contradistinguished from other Saracens ? or,
was it adopted by Mahomet II. after his conquests
of Constantinople and the eastern countries of
Europe? I am aware that if this last idea be
substantiated, it will make it much more modern
than it is generally supposed to be, but our ideas
of everything Turkish were for so long a time
mixed with the wonderful and the romantic, that
we must not expect much correctness on suck
points. The Turks came into fearful contiguity
with the West in the fifteenth century ; Europe
had as much to dread from them then as from tn&
Russians now. This event and the art of printing .
were almost cotemporary, and the crescent haa
been presented to us as the symbol of Maho-
metanism ever since ; but I much doubt it can be
proved to have been so at a far remoter period.
W. ROBSOJT*.
Stock well.
:^ut0r ^uerierf.
The Hebrew Testament. — Having lately com-
pleted the above work, so as to be " ready for the
press" without much delay, I should be glad,,
before I resign the MS. to the hands of the
printer, to have the advantage of the suggestions
of those of your erudite readers who have made
sacred criticism their study.
MosEs Mabgolioutif..
Dr. Franklin. — I possess the following lines in
the handwriting of Dr. Franklin, written in the
year 1780. Can any of your readers tell me whe
was the author of them, and when and where they
were first printed ?
" When Orpheus went down to the Regions below»
Which men are forhidden to see ;
He tun'd up his Lyre, as historians show.
To set his Euridice free.
All Hell was astonished, a person so wise
Should so rashly endnn^^er his life.
And venture so far ! But how vast their surprise,.
When they heard that he came for his wife.
** To find out a punishment due to the fault,
Old Pluto had puzzled his brain ;
But Hell had not torments sufficient he thought,.
So he gave him his wife back a^^ain.
But pity succeeding, soon mov'd his hard heart,.
And, pleas'd with his playing so well,
He took her again, in reward of his Art ;
Such power had Music in Hell 1"
G. M. R
Flemish JRefvgees. — In the troubled times of
the Keformation, England was not seldom the
refuge for Flemings who, for the sake of religion,,
abandoned their country. Among these was Mr.
Joos Tuck, who, according to a consistorial deci-
sion of Dec. 14, 1582, was proposed by G. Van
Den Haute, then pastor at Sluis, to the brethren
of the Flemish Class, since " they had taken know-
ledge of the sound and good gifts of their brother.*'
He left Sluis soon after, probably in July, 1583,
and withdrew to England. I should be glad to
learn what befell him there.
Peter Lambert was a student'of the University
of Ghent : though, as far as I am aware, he is not
Aug. 27. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
197
mentioned in Te Water's History of the Reformed
Church and University in Ohent On July 21,
1583, a student made known his wish to propose
himself as candidate for the ministry ; and on
August 4 appeared Peter Lambert, student of
the University of Ghent, before the consistory,
requesting the brethren to grant him the twenty-
iive guilders which had been promised ; because,
on account of the troubled state of the country,
he wished to flee to England, on which request
was decided : '^ Since a well-known and pious
brother, who is compelled to flee, is in need of
help, let the deacons and pensionary of the town
be addressed thereon." Very probably, therefore,
lie also took refuge in England. Can any one give
me farther information ? — From the Navorscher,
J. H. Van Dale.
" Sad are the rose leaves^'^ Sfc, — Can you or
Any of your correspondents tell me whence come
the following lines ? —
" Sad are the rose leaves which betoken
That there the dead lie buried low ;
But sadder, when the heart is broken,
Are smiles upon the lips of woe."
They are quoted from memory from the album of
a lady friend. Iseldunensis.
Wanted^ the original habitat of the following
Sentences :
1. " Ministerium circa, non magisterium supra.
Scriptures."
2. " Virtus rectorem ducemque desiderat, vitia
5ine maffistro discuntur."
3. "In necessariis unitas, in non-necessariis
libertas, in omnibus charitas."
4. " Exiguum est ad legem bonum esse." Wet-
etein assigns this last to Seneca, Epist, 17. ; but
there is some error. It very likely is in Seneca.
5. "Verbum audimus, motum sentimus, prae-
sentiam credimus, modum nescimus." Durandus
is the author.
6. " En rem indisnam ! nos qui jam tot annos
6umus doctores S. Tneologise, denuo cogimur adire
ludos literarios." Spoken by the adversaries of
Erasmus.
What is the eai'liest authority for the story of
St. John and his partridge ?
Will Mr. Bolton Coeney be kind enough to
explain the occasion of Person's notable speech
recorded on the last page of his Curiosities Illus"
trated f
His sagacity was not at fault in suspecting a
French origin for D'Israeli*s story, p. 89. See
Bassompi^re, in Retrospective Review^ xiii. 346.
S. z. z. s.
Teo'tnarks, — Accident threw in my way lately a
catalogue of a large sale of teas in Auncing Lane ;
nod my attention was drawn to certain marks
against the several lots, which appeared to indi-
cate particular qualities, but to me, as uninitiated,
perfectly incomprehensible. In this dilemma I
asked one of our principal brokers the meaning of
all this, and I was informed that teas are sampled
and tasted by the brokers, and divided in the
main into seven classes, distinguished as follows :
Nal.
No. 2.
No. 3.
No. 4.
No. 5.
No. 6.
No. 7.
r
Gal-
lows.
h
Tee.
II''-
Good
middling
A.
//.
Good
mid-
dling.
Mid-
dling
A.
/.
Mid-
.dllng.
/
Ordi-
nary.
Can any of your correspondents tell us when
this classincation was first introduced, or the ori-
gin of the first two characters ? Can they be
Chinese, and the names given from some fancied
resemblance to the gallows, or the letter T turned
sideways ? My friend the broker, though a very
intelligent man, could give me no information
whatever on these points. W. T.
42. Lowndes Square.
William the Conqueror'' s Surname, — Had Wil-
liam a surname ? If so, what was it ? By sur-
name I mean such as is transmitted from father to
son, not the epithets he used to bestow on himself
in documents, as " I, William the Bastard," " I,
William the Conqueror," &c. Tee Bee.
Old Saying, —
** Merry be the first
And merry be the last.
And merry be the first of August."
Having frequently heard this old saying, I take
the liberty of asking, through your much valued
paper, if any of your readers are able to tell me
its origin P Edm. L. Baoshawe*
Bath Literary Institution.
To pluck a Crow with One, — It is a common
expression in all ranks, I believe, of this country,
to speak of ** plucking a crow " with such a one ;
meaning, to call him to account for some delin-
quency. Can any of your correspondents inform
me of the origin of the phrase ? W. W.
" WelFs afretr — When, after a short pause in
conversation, any one utters the interjection,
" Well ! " it is a very common practice in Not-
tingham to say :
** . . . . . . and \otJt9 afretf
He that dies for love will not be hang'd for debt.**
I have asked a great number of persons for an
explanation, but they all use the phrase without
any meaning. Can you, or any of your readerg,
tell me if it liave any ; or if it be only nonsensical
doggrel ? D£yoNiEN8i8«
198
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 200.
Pay the Piper, — This expression surely has a
firm foundation. Can any of your correspondents
trace it P W. T. M.
Hong Kong.
Greek Inscription upon a Font^ mentioned by
Jeremy Taylor, —
" This w&s Ingeniously signified by that Greek in-
scription upon a font, which is so prettily contrived,
that the words may be read after the Greek or after
the Hebrew manner, and be exactly the same :
* Lord, wash my sin, and not my face only.*" — Life of
Christy part i. sect. 9. disc. 6., *< On Baptism," vol. ii.
p. 235,, £den*s edition.
Can any reader of " N". & Q.** state the bishop*8
authority for this iugenious device ? A. Tatlob.
Aoharis. — The following is extracted from Dug^
dale*s Monasticon :
** Radulphus WiolifF armiger tenet in Wicliff duas
partes decimarum de dominicis quondam Aeharia^ quon-
dam ad 5. s. modo nihil quia ut dicit sunt incluse in
parco suo, ideo ad consilium."
What is the meaning of the term Acharis^ and
of the passage ? It is an extract from the Bentale
spiritualium Possessionum atque temporalium Prio*
ratus Sancti Martini juxta Richmund in agro Eho^
racensi. A. W. IL
Attainment of Majority, — ^Professor De Moboan
will, I am sure, permit me to put this question to
him:
In a short treatise " On Ancient and Modern
Usage in Reckoning," written by him for the
Companion to the Almanac of 1850, he explains, at
page 9., the usage of attainment of minority in
these words :
** Nevertheless in the law, which here preserves iho
old reckoning^ he is of full ago on the 9th : though he
were born on the 10th, he is of KgQ to execute a
settlement a minutt after midnight on the morning of
the Qth."
I want to have this statement reconciled with the
openinpr scene of Ben Jonson's Staple of Newsy
where Penny boy jun. counts, as his watch strikes
— " one, two, three, four, five, six I " —
« Enough, enough, dear watch,
Thy pulse hath beat enough
— The hour is come so long expected," &o.
Then " the fashioner " comes in to fit on' the heir*a
new clothes ; ho had " waited below *till the clock
struck," and gives, as an excuse, "your worship
might have pleaded noiiage^ if you had got 'em
on ere I could make just affidavit of the time.*'
All these particulars are too verbatim to admit
of doubt as to the peculiar usage of that time ; and
firom other sources I know that Ben Jonson was
right : but it is not alluded to in the treatise first
mentioned, nor is it stated when the usage was
altered to " a minute after midnight." A. B. B.
Leeds.
ffartman^s Accotmt of Waterloo. — In the note
to the 3rd Canto of Childe Harold^ Stanza 29,
Lord Byron says :
" The place where Major Howard fell was not far
from two tall and solitary trees, which stand a few
yards from cnch other at a pathway*s side* Beneath
these he died and was buried. The body has since
been removed to England."
I have a copy on which one has written —
** Hartman*8 account is full and interesttng. H«
wa» in conversation with Miyor Howard when he was
killed ; and afterwards gave directions for bis burial.
Though no poet, he could describe graphically what
he saw and did."
The position of Hartman, and his apparent
familiarity with Major Howard, seem to take him
out of the herd ot writers on Waterloo; but I
cannot learn who he was, or what he wrote. Can
any of your readers tell me ? The note may have
been made in mere wantonness, but it looks
genuine. Gr. D.
Henry Chicheley^ Archbishop of Canterbury, —
When was Henry Chioheley, Archbishop of Can-
terbury, born ; who, Camden tells us, was the
" greatest ornament" of Higham Ferrers P I have
seen his birth somewhere stated to have taken
place in the year L360 ; but no day or month was
given. I should also be glad to know to what
extent he was a contributor towards the restoration
of Croydon Church, the tower and porch of which
bear his arms ? rLW, Elliot.
Translation of Athenans, — I find| in the das^
sical Journal, xxxviii. 11., published in 1828, that
an English translation of Athensous had been com-
pleted before his death by R. Fenton, Eso^., F.R.3;,
author of the History of Pembrokeshire, The
writer fiu^ther says : "We have reason to believe
that the MS. is now in possession of his son, the
Rev. S. Fenton, Vicar of Fishguai^ in Pembroke-
shire." Has this version, or any part of it, ever
been published? F. J. F. Gantillon,.B.A.
Passages from Euripides, — Rogers transli^tes
two fine passages from Euripides :
** There is a streamlet issuing from a rook," &o».
and
** Dear is that valley to the murmuring bees," &a
Where is the original Greek to be found P F.
Anderson^s Royal Genealogies, — Is there any
memoir or biographical account extant of James
Anderson, D.D., tlie learned' compiler of that most
excellent and valuable work bearing the above
title, and published in London, 1732, fol. P G.
Aug. 27. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
199
Miliar ^utxiti toftg ^n^tx^.
Louis le Hutin, — When or for what reason was
the sobriquet "Hutin" attached to Louis X. of
France ? And what is the meaning of " Hutin ? "
F. S. A.
\^Hutin is defined by Roquefbrt, brusque, emportey
guereUeur, from the Low Latin Hutinus j and in illus-
trating the word he furnishes the following reply to
our correspondent's Query : " Mezerai rapporte que
Louis X. fat surnomm^ Hutin, parceque, des son en-
fance, il aimait A quereller et d se battre, et que oe
sumom fut* lui donne par allusion k un petit maillet
dont se servent les tonneliers, appele hutinet, parce-
qu'il fait beaucoup de bruit. "3
BEE-PARK BEE-HALL.
(Vol. v., pp. 322. 498.)
Enjoying as we do the advantages of the ex-
tension of scientific knowledge, and its application
to our routine of daily wants, we are apt to forget
that our forefathers were without many things we
deem essentials. Your correspondents C. W. G.
and B. B. have touched upon a curious feature of
antiquity, wiiich science and commerce have ren-
dered obsolete. Yet, before the introduction of
sugar, bees were important ministers to the luxu-
ries of the greats as mentioned at the above-cited
pages. I was struck with the following passage in
the first forest charter of King Henry In. :
« Every freeman . . . shall likewise have the
honey whieh shall be found in his woods."
This, in a charter second only in importance,
perhaps, to Magna Charta itself, sounds strange to
our ideas ; modems would not think it a very
royal boon. But the note with which Mr. R.
Thomson {Historical Essay on the Magna Charta
of King John^ p. 352.) illustrates this passage is
interesting, and, though rather long, may be worth
insertion m your columns :
** The second part of this chapter secures to the
woodland proprietor all the honey found in his woods ;
which was certainly a much more important gift than
it would at first appear, since the Hon. Daines Har-
rington remarks, that perhaps there has been no law-
suit or question concerning it for the last three hun-
dred years. In the middle ages, however, the use
of honey was very extensive in England, as sugar was
not brought hither until the fifteenth century; and it
w» not only a general substitute for it in preserving,
but many of the more luxurious beverages were, prin-
cipally composed of it, as mead, metheglin, pigment,
and morat, and these were famous from the Saxon days,
down even, to the time of the present charter (1217).
In the old Danish and Swedish laws bees form a prin-
cipal subject ; and* honey was a considerable article of
rent in Pdland, in which It was a custom to bind anyi
one who stole it to the tree whence it was taken. The
Baron de Mayerberg also relates, that when he tra-
velled in Muscovy in 1661, he saw trees there ex-
pressly adapted to receive bees, which even those who
felled their own wood were enjoined to take down in
such a manner that they who prepared them should have
the benefit of the honey. Nor was the wax of less im-
portance to the: woodland proprietors of England, sinee
candles of tallow are said to have been first used only
in 1290, and those- of wax were so great a luxury, that
in some places they were unknown : but a statute con-
cerning wax- chandlers, passed in 1433 (the 11th of
Henry VI. chap. 1 2.), states that wax was then used
in great quantities for the images of saints. Only re-
ferring, however, to the well-known use of large wax
tapers by King Alfred in the close of the ninth cen-
tury, it may be observed that in the laws of Hoel Dha,
king of South Wales, which are acknowledged. as au-
thentic historical documents, made about a. d. 940, of
much older materials, is mentioned the right of the
king's chamberlain, to as much wax as he could bate
from the end of a taper." — Coke;,Manwoodi BcW'
rington ;. Statutes of the Recdm,
Perhaps jou will allow a few words more in
illustration of B. B.'s Queiy (Vol. v., p. 498.).
A recent correspondent, writing of some modem
experiments on the venom of toads, suggests the-
propriety of contributing to a list of "vulgar
errors " which have proved to be " vulgar truths."
It would not much surprise me to learn that, after
all, the popular belief in the eflScacy of the rough,
music of the key and warming-pan might be.
added to his list. At all events the reason stated:
by B. B. to prove its uselessness, viz. that bees''
have no sense of hearing, must; I think, be
abandoned, as a Query of Mb. Stdket Smibkit
(Vol. vii., p. 499.), and an answer (Vol. vii.,
p. 633.), will show. That all insects are possessed;
of hearing, naturalists seem now as well convinoed;
of as that they have eyes ; though some naturalists
formerly considered they were not, as LinneeuA
and Bonnet; while Huber (liis interesting ob-
servations on bees notwithstanding) seems to have
been quite undecided on the point. Bees, as welL
as all other insects, hear through the medium of
their antennae, which in a subordinate degree are
used as feelers ; observing which, perhaps, Huber
and others were indisposed to ascribe to them the*
sense in question.
In reference to Mb. Sydney Smibkb*s Query,
so far from other naturalists confirming Huber*r
observations as to the effect produced by the sound
emitted by the Sphynx atropos on the bees, be-
sides Dr. Bevan (quoted Vol. vii., p. 633.), the
intelligent entomologist, Mr. Duncan, author of the^
entomological poHion of The Naturalises Library
(vol. xxxiv; pp. 53 — 65.), completely disprovea^
them. He tells us that he has closely, watched*
bees, and has seen the queen attack the larva cells ;.
but the sentinels^ notwithstanding the reiteratioa-
of the queenly sound, so far ^m remaining mo*-
200
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 200.
tionless, held their sovereign in check, and stub-
bornly persisted in the defence of their charge
against the attacks of their queen and mother.
Besides this disproval of the incapacitation of bees
by the emission of a sound, another from the ex-
periments of Huber himself may be mentioned.
He introduced a Sphynx atropos into a hive in the
daytime, and it was immediately attacked and
killed by the workers. Query, Might not the
explanation of the robbery of hives by this moth
be, that the darkness of night incapacitates the
bees, while it is the time nature has provided for
the wanderings of the Sphynx ? Tejb Bee.
MILTOM 8 WIDOW.
(Vol. vii., p. 596. ; Vol. viii., pp. 12. 134.)
A contribution of mine to the miscellaneous vol.
' of the Chetham Society's publications having been
introduced to your readers by the handsome no-
tice of Mr. Hughes, I feel bound to notice the ob-
jection raised by your correspondent Garlichithe
(Vol. viii., p. 134.), who has confounded Randle the
grandfather and Randle the son of the writer of
these letters quoted by Mr. Hunter. Richard Min-
shuU, who was the writer of these letters in 1656,
and died in the following year, had several sons,
- of whom the eldest, Randle, correctly described
by Mr. Hughes as the great-great-grandson of
*tiie Minshull who first settled at Wistaston, had
^«even children, of whom Elizabeth, the widow
of Milton, was one. She was baptized at Wistaston
on the 30th Dec. 1638. In 1680 (about six years
after her husband's death), by means of a family
arrangement with Richard Minshull of Wistaston,
frame- work knitter, who, there can be little doubt,
was her brother, evidenced by a bond in my posses-
sion, she acquired a leasehold interest in a farm
at Brindley, near Nantwich. On the 20th July,
1720, by her name and description of Elizabeth
Milton, of Nantwich, widow, she administered to
the effects of her brother, John Minshull, in the
Consistory Court of Chester ; and her will, the
probate of which is also in my possession, is dated
22nd August, and proved 10th October, 1727. Mr,
Hughes having given a reference to the volume
where this information will be found in detail, a
reference to it might have saved Garltchithe
the trouble of starting an objection, and shown
him that, so far from the facts stated being irre-
concilable with Mr. Hunter*s tract-, that gentle-
man's reference to Randle Holme's Correspondence
was suggested by a communication of my own to
The AthetKBum, and in its turn furnished me with
the clue from which I eventually ascertained the
?articulars of Mrs. Milton's birth and parentage,
am sorry to say that I have wholly failed in
finding the register of her marriage : it is not in
the register-book of her native place. It might
be worth while to search the register of the
parishes in which Milton's residence in Jewin
Street, and Dr. Paget's in Coleman Street, are
situate. There is no uncertainty as to the date,
which Aubrey tells us was in " the yeare before
the sicknesse."
Though Cranmore (Vol. v., p. 327.) is said to be
a deserter from the ranks of " ]N. & Q.," I hope he
is known to some of vour readers, and that they
will convey to him a hint that he is under some-
thing like a promise to furnish information, which,
as regards Dr. Paget's connexion with the poet's
widow, will still be welcome. J. F. Marsh.
Despite his acknowledged infidelity, I must
tender my thanks to Garlichithe for his oblig-
ing reference to Mr. Hunter's tract ; albeit there
is, I may be permitted to suggest, no position
assumed in my note upon Milton's widow which
that tract in any way contravenes or sets aside.
The fact is, Garlichithe, in the outset, entirely
misapprehends the nature of my argument ; and
so leads himself, by a sort of literary " Will-o'-
the-wisp," unconsciously astray.
It was not Randle the grandfather of Richard
Minshull, writer of the two letters transcribed by
Mr. Hunter, but Randle the eldest so7i of this
Richard Minshull to whom I referred as the father
of Elizabeth Milton. Nor is it possible that this
Elizabeth could have "died in infancy," seeing
that I possess a copy of a bond Tthe original is
also extant) from her brother Richard, then of
Wistaston, where he was baptized April 7, 1641,
secured to her as Elizabeth Jafilton, dated June 4,
1680.
As to the marriage itself, it may have taken
place in London, wnere the poet resided; or,
which is more probable, at or near the residence
of their mutual friend. Dr. Paget. Milton was
certainly not over-careful about ritual observances,
and it is not therefore unlikely that the rigid
Puritan preferred a private, or what is termed a
civil marriage, to one religiously and properly
conducted in tlie church of his forefathers.
T. HuoHss.
peculiar ornament in crosthwaite church.
(Vol. viii., p. 55.)
It is probable that these circles with eight ra-
diations are the original dedication-crosses of the
church. Such crosses are still to be seen painted
on the piers of the nave in Roman Cati^olio
churches. Durandus, describing the consecration
of a church, says :
** In the meanwhile within the building twelve
lamps be burning before twelve crosses, which be de-
picted on the walls of the church Lastlyi he
[the bishop] anointeth with chrism the tweWe crosses
Aug. 27. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
201
depicted on the wall." — Durandus On Syn^lism, ed.
Neale and Webb, p. 115.
In the Pontifical, De Ecclesics Dedicatione, the
rubric directs, —
** Item, depingantur in parietibus Ecclesia? intrinse-
ciis per circuitum duodecim cruces, circa decern palmos
super terram, videlicet tres pro quolibet, ex quatuor
parietibus. Et ad caput cujuslibet crucis figatur unus
clavus, cui affigatur una candela unius uncia;."
Dedication-crosses occur at Salisbury Cathedral,
and at Uffin^ton Church, Berks, and in both cases
on the exterior of the buildings.
The crosses at Salisbury are seven in number,
viz. one over each side-door at the west end, two
on the buttresses of the north and south transepts,
two on the buttresses of the east end, and one in
the centre of the east wall. The number at Uf-
fington is twelve, disposed as follows : Three under
the east window, three under the west window,
one under the south window of the south tran-
sept, one under the north window of the north
transept, one on the south wall of the nave, one
on the north wall of the nave, one on the south
wall of the chancel, and one in the east wall of
the south transept. In each case the crosses have
been of brass inlaid in the wall, with the exception
of one, which is of stone, and of more elaborate
design. The rationale of dedication-crosses, ac-
cording to Durandus, is, —
" First, as a terror to evil spirits, that they, having
been driven forth thence, may be terrified when they
see the sign of the cross, and may not presume to enter
therein again. Secondly, as a mark of triumph ; for
crosses be the banners of Christ, and the signs of his
triumph Thirdly, that such as look on them may
call to mind the passion of Christ, by which he hath
consecrated his Church, and their belief in his passion,"
&c.— Page 125.
Under these aspects the exterior would seem the
more fitting, and may have been the original posi-
tion of them. Perhaps Me. Elliot will inform us
what is the number of crosses at Crosthwaite ?
Chevesells.
CURIOUS MISTBANSLA.TIONS.
(Vol. vL, p. 321.)
I have found, in D'Israeli*s Curiosities ofLitera'
ture^ two or three instances in which he mistrans-
lates from the French. The first occurs in the
following passage in the article headed " Inquisi-
tion:"
" Once all were Turks when they were not Ro-
manists. Raymond, Count of Toulouse, was con-
strained to submit. The inhabitants were passed on the
edge of the sword, without distinction of age or sex.'*
From the words which I have marked for Italics,
it is clear thatD^Israell translated the passage from
some French author ; but not being aware of the
idiomatic expression " passer au fil de Tepee," and
that it means "to put to the sword," he trans-
lated the words in their literal sense, which in
English is no sense at all.
The second example will be found in the article
headed "Mysteries, Moralities," &c. D'Israeli
quotes some extracts from the Mystery of Sf,
Vennis, and concludes with the following on the
subject of baptism :
" Sire, oyez que fait ce fol prestre :
II prend de I'yaue en une escuelle,
Et gete aux gens sur le cervele,
Et dit que partants sont sauves.*'
which he translates thus :
** Sir, hear what this mad priest does :
He takes water out of& ladle,
And, throwing it at people*s heads,
He says that when they d^art they are saved I"
The error of " out of" for "into" is unimpor-
tant; but not so where he renders "partants" by
" when they depart." The word " partant," in the
original, is an adverb, and means "thereupon,"
"forthwith." This DTsraeli has mistaken for
" partant," the participle of " partir :" and hence
the erroneous construction given to the passage.
A third sample occurs in the same article, where
the author quotes from one of the dramas called
Settles, a passage in which are these lines :
" Tuer les gens pour leurs plaisirs,
Jouer le leur, I'autrui saisir.*'
These he translates as follows :
** Killing people for their pleasures,
Minding their own interests, and seizing on what be-
longs to another.*'
Here we have "jouer le leur," to gamble, ren-
dered by " to mind their own interests ; " a rather,
eq^uivocal method, it must be confessed, of accom-
plishing that object.
These are among the very few instances in
which DTsraeli, by quoting from the original au-
thorities, enables us to form an opinion as to the
correctness of his anecdotes ; and when we con-
sider that by far the greater proportion of these
are drawn from French sources, there is reason to
apprehend that they may not have always been
given with sufiGicient fidelity. I am confirmed in
this view by another quotation which DTsraeli
seems to have misunderstood. He is speaking of
the feudal custom of the French barons, according
to which they were allowed to cohabit with the
new bride during the first three nights after mar-
riage. Upon this he remarks :
« Montesquieu is infinitely French when he could
turn thb shameful species of tyranny into a bon mot ;
for he boldly observes on this : * C*etait bien ces trois
nuits U qu*il fallait choisir; car pour les autres on
202 NOTES AND QUERIES. [No. 200.
n'auriit pai donni buueoup d'nrgenl.' Tho IcgislBtor, whilt I have BiipposeJ it to mean— to apeak u the
in the wil, forgot the fuelingB of his henrt." echo or exnct repeater of another man's wordj.
I have never been able to conceive wbat mean- Where cnn instances be found of the Duke of
ing D'laraeli could bavc attached to this quotation Grafton's using this expression, which Fhilo-
from Montesquieu, so as to tortum it inlo a 6o« Junius ridiculusf W. Fusu.
mot. Not onlj Is tliere nothing of tlio kind in the Tor>Mo1iun.
words ho quotes, but there is not even an attempt .
at it. Tho writer merely suggests a reason for tlie ^^
S reference given to the first three niglits ; and in noRiii. in rKCONSBCRATBD riMima.
oing so he expi-esaes tlio sentiments of the barons, /y^] ^; posstnt 1
and not his own. And yet, it is upon this strange
misapprehension of Monteninieu's meaning, that So inony interostbg noUees have been made by
DTsraeli lays at the door of that illustrious mnn joar correspondents on the subject of peouliar
the imputation of being " infinitely French," and intornientB, — skipping about from one part of the
of forgetting, for the sake of a ton niol, tlie feelings country to another, and dropping down from the
of hisheartj IIbhbt II. Bbehh. south into Lincalnshire, as if in search of far-
St, Lucia. ^^^' instances, — that I am induced to add to the
^__^^^ number of records, by stating the fact as to th&
•^-~-^^ ]^(g ]yp_ Dent, of Winterton, whose body, at hU.
"to spmak in lutestbino." particular request, was dqiosited aflar his death
/T7„i :•.: ., ioo\ in his own garden, on the south of the honaeia.
(.vol. 111., p. IW.) Winterton, where he not only lived but died.
The Query on the meaning of the phnue " to Friend Jonathan, as he was Guniliarly called,
speak in lutestring," used by Philo-iMiniut, has wassnuwof shrewd understanding, iwdpoHesHOB^
remained lo long without an answer, that to at- strong common sense ; yet, like othera, ha h«d hu
tempt to give one now seems almost to require au fulinss, and amongst tiiem the amor nvmmi was
apology. I will however do so. In Letter XL VII., cot the least obtnisirc. As a very wealthy nun he
dated May 28, 1771, Fhilo-Junius says ; ^^ looked up to by a little aspiring community of
"Iws. Irf to trouble you with tl,r«. ob.erv.lions '^""•'^.'■' in the nciglibourW; and.hieown drew,
bj a p.i»ge, wliich, to ^ai fn luu,tri<,g, ' I met with ^.''<5" '" " _ bet tor suit, exhibited an appearanoe of
e of mj roading,' i
is connexion with that fraternity.
whicli I mean to put a quntion to the ■dTacntca fur "^^^ Quakers had a small burial-grotind at
piitilegf." Thcalby, in the parish of Burton-upon-Stother,
Now we know that If twn liit^ji or nthor '^^'^ ^ ""^ 7^" "8° ^^^ '•" cunowty to in-
»h.". chord of ooTof tfom i, .Irudt.lS 00"; ,"t f"°"' f^T""' Li"." ,'-?.,°?-i* 'l£"
.ponding ohord of tb. olhnr „in vibr.to in nni.on, r*"'iT" ' A "/"■""J.;' V'"^' *'Tl£°"
.Id gi.; . .imilB not. i on. lotctrlng ,ill ,cbo 2° f" , k. '^'""f ^'"f\ 'T. K'°f^
lb. olhor. Tb. .tor, of tb. nud.n ,& b.ll.rri "'"f" m'kiM .t on. Urn. .tood . lot of oott™.
tb,t tho .piril of l,r d..d l0T.r wu ».„• hS "'l =■?"■• ■""."■'•'' by jommon .ton. .J^
boi..,o li. h,rp .o.ndod ro.poniiT, not., to bra S™ '"" f' *" "»" ,"^5° "'SS -""v ■'^.
.nd ,ho died i..rt-brok,n U.n J,o ,„ «„2 ""' " ""f ' 'f, "> "8l.»'.l -" <i» W
clvod, i. macionlij well known. " To .pmk in ST"' ""!,' °°?V "PX?* ■'. ,'» .»?"'•''« 'f.'!;'
IntCTlring- i, th.n to .p..k u motb.r n„n', 'J,""j'°,°, ''..""t ■■■". L -i 1 , .v u V "'
•oho i .nd Pbilo-Juniu. b™ t.u tb, eobo of tbo "'""'" '° ''"" } V'""^ "' ""' "'%'}<'''>. ™
Dnk. of Gmaon, .nd u>«i ihi. rtMiri pb™, ™ ""Jj' " »»» '""^"J °^P ,"' f>o.n>ii«g
dni,i«lj, u b.ing . f.„urit., or at !.«• w.ll- "",'.'■' ■"■ " ;•"".;"' I'* ..A'"' " » P"".
known .,prM.ion of bi.. In . l.ttn- wbicb U ".J!" """5° ."V" °?.'r"l'"'°"' " =?» '' 'S
upondtd 1. . noto to L.tKr XX, .nd wbioh i, "»!""« < "? '?' "f . P""."!" ,'" '"'^ ""' '"*
S& «x dny. pr.rioa. to tb, on^ j«.l ,uot.d, °^'"' •""«»" ". "g" !■>». b."" "•» .•
m. M.y 22,1771, bo «17.: piotl^r.Mu. .pot, b.nng tiros or fonr l.rg« trMii
^ ' ' overlooking it.
" But Juniu. ha. . poU .uthoril)- to .upport him. Upon nn nfter innuiry I w.a told that . funMd,
whiih X T^ "»;. •'• 1^ f a,^^; • I «... b»i Utol, takon pl.t. Sir,, .t wbi.b Fri,nd Jono-
JSil' " I, ,". ' ."" -°J""«.;." »• ?"""• "'.T' tb«. wa. th. prJ«ding .tUndrmt. But in pm-
difficulty m stubbing up the strong nettles, and
I haTe not found tho phrase " to speak in lute- digging the roots to form a decent grave ; and
Btnng anywhere else j hot I think, from a com- it was after all to difficult to find comfbrtable.
pariaon of these two quotations, that it must mean standing-room about the grave, that I haTB erer
Abo. i1. 1853.]
KOTES AND QnHKIES.
since concluded that Mr. Dent must have been
disgusted ivith it, as, upon deporting their lost
friend in the earth, he, ns spokesntsn, thought it
unnecessary to m^e any observations, and he
recommended that thej should at once cover the
body up; and so it was done.
That Mr. Dent had anv antipathy to the church
I do not know, but that he had a great dislike to
paying unnecessary fees I have a good recollection
of. Before his death he requested that his body
should be deposited in his own garden ; and his
request was attended to by his nephew.
After the old gentleman's death, the present
Mr. Dent, with a praiseworthy attention, repaired
and restored in the Elizabethan style the old
dilapidated dwelling-house and homestead where
his uncle lived. And I one day paid a'visit to the
grave, which is an unpretending ridge on a well-
mown graBs-pIat, and which, with the house and
ground, appeared to be property attended to ; and
so, I presume, it continues to be,
Wu. T. Hbbledeh.
J, H. M., in bringing forward BaskerviUe as an
example of this unuaual occurrence, says, that " he
directed he should be buried under a ariudmill near
his garden." In a volume of Epitaphs, printed at
Ipswich in 1806, once the property of Archdeacon
Nares, end containing several MS. notes by him,
Baskerville'a is given, with a note by tie editor, in
which he is stated to have been "inumed accord-
ing to his own desire in a corneal building near bis
late widow's house." The epitaph, written by
Baskerville himself, commences with these lines —
Beneith this eont. in anamtecraled ground,
A fiiend to tbe liberties of mankind directed
His body to he inurned."
Tbe expression in eadi case, respecting the place
of his interment, seems scarcely strong enough for
us to conclude it was atcimhailL Ferliaps J. H.M.
will kindly favour me with tJie authority for his
statement. Nares has made the following note on
the epitaph at the bottom of the page :
"I heard John Wilkea, after praising BaaterTille,ftdd,
' But lie was a teirible infidel i he used to shock me I ' "
E. W. Elliot.
Clifton.
[At tbe suggestion of serenil dorrSBpondents we hare
ropiinted rrom Tie Alitmeatn of tbe S2nd Nov. 1G51,
the artiole detailing the new process by Mr. Muller
n£antd to by the Rev. Ms. Sussn in our lut Number.]
Mr. Mtdler's Process. — "The following photo-
graphic process has been communicated to us by
Mr. C J. Muller, from Ptttna in the £a<t Indies.
We hare submitted it to an experienced' photo-
gnqilier; and he informs us diat it offers many
advantage over the Talbotype or tbe Catalisw
a' pe of Dr. Woods, which it somewhat resembles ;
at it is easy in all its manipulatory details, and
certain in Its results. We give Mr. MuUer's own
" ' A solution of hydriodate of iron is made in
the proportion of eight or tengrains of iodide of
iron to one ounce of water, "nuB solution I pre-
pare in the ordinary way with iodine, irou-tummgs,
and water. — The ordinary paper employed in pho-
tography is dressed on one side witit a solutioa of
nitrate of lead (fifteen grains of the salt to an
ounce of water). When dry, this paper is iodiied
either by immersing it completely in the solution
of the hydriodate of iron, or by floating the leaded
surface on the solution. It is removed after the
lapse of a minute or two, and lightly dried with
blotting-paper. This paper now contains iodide
of lead and protonitrate of iron. While still moiii^
it is rendered sensitdve by a solution of nitrate of
silver (one hundred grains to the ounoe) and
placed in the camera. After an exposure of the
duration generally required jbr Talbot's paper, it
may be removed to a dark room. If ^e image is
not already out, it will be found speedily to ap-
pear in great strength and with beautiful sharp-
ness wHlioui any farther application. The yellow
tinge of the l^hts may be removed by a little
hyposulphite of soda, though simple washing in
water seems to be sufficient to Qx the picture.
The nitrate of lead may be omitted ; and plain
paper only, treated with the solution of the hydrio-
date of iron, and acetic acid may be used with the
nitrate of silver, which renders it more senaitive.
Thelead, however, imparts apeculiar colorific efibot.
The red tinge brought about by the lead may be
changed to a black one by the use of a dilute solu-
tion of sulphate of iron : — by which, indeed, the
latent im^e may be very quickly developed. The
papers however will not keep after being iodized.'
" Mr. Muller suggests, that as iodide of lead is
completely soluble in nitrate of silver, it might
furnish a valuable photographic fluid, which could
be applied at any moment when required.
" No small degree of interest attaches to this
process, originating in experiments carried on in
C«i^^ India. It appears perfectly applicable to
tiia albumenised glass and collodion processes."
DetaU on Negative Paper. — I have not obserred
before this, that any pbotomphic operator has
"noted" the burnishing of the iodized paper
frevious to adding the exciting solution, though
know it b usual to burnish before taking aproof.
This 13 a very useful adjunct to obtaining- minute-
ness, and it is a plan I have sometimes adopted^ I
at first thought it would injure or knock off thtt
iodized surface, but no injury whatever arises
from the rubbing. I use a small piece of glass
rod, polished flat at one end, so that it may present
204
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 200.
a facet about half an inch square ; but I should
imagine a better instrument might be manufactured
with a proper handle, and some mode of obtaining
pressure ; not obtaining sufficient is the cause of
a little after-disarrangement if the nitrate of silver
is laid on with a brush, but if floated the polish
remains.
It cannot be doubted but paper is adequate to
any detail ; and when a paper shall be manufac-
tured of a perfect kind, there is no reason to sup-
pose but paper generally will rival collodion tot
most purposes.
Nothing prevents it at present but the uneven
surface of paper. It is very nearly perfect in the
French negative paper; but that nas so many
other drawbacks to its use that it cannot be safely
depended upon. Our manufacturers have still
some improvements to make ; for if Canson Fr^res
bad lefl out the blackening chemical in the paper,
it would have been better than anyof ours in my
estimation. Weld Tatlob.
Amnumio-nitrate of Silver. — Will any of your
scientific correspondents explain the chemical
cause of my inability to form the ammonio-nitrate
of silver from a solution of nitrate of silver upon
which albumenized paper has been previously
floated ? Having excited some albumenized paper
on a forty-grain solution of nitrate of silver, I kept
the solution which had not been consumed for the
purpose of converting it into the ammonio-nitrate.
But on dropping in the ammonia, not only did no
precipitate take place, but the ammoniacal smell
which usually gives place to the tarry odour re-
mained. No albumen appeared to be dissolved
from the paper, and the solution had lost none of
its silver, which I subsequently collected by means
of having formed a chloride. Thb has occurred
to me more than once, and I call attention to it,
as the investigation of it may lead to some new
results. Philo-Pho.
" Up, Guards, and at them /" (Vol. v., p. 426. ;
Vol. viii., pp. 111. 184.). — It will, I hope, close all
debate on this anecdote, to state that the account
I gave of it in Vol. v., p. 426., was from the Duke
himself. I thought it very unlike him to have
given his order in such a phrase, and I asked him
how the fact was, and he answered me to the efl*ect
I have already stated. C.
Oerman Heraldry (Vol. viii., p. 150.). — Your
Querist will probably And what he inquires for in
Fursten*s German Arms, published at Nurenberg
in folio, 1696. The plates are sometimes divided
and bound in three or four oblong volumes. The
work known as Fursten's German Arms was com-
menced by Siebmacker, continued by Furst and
Helman, and, in 1714, by Weigel. It is oftea
quoted under these respective names ; but of later
years, more frequently under that of Weigel's
Book of German Arms (Weigel Wapenbuch). It
consists of six Parts, and professes to give the
arms of the principal nobility of the Roman king-
dom : dukes, princes, princely counts ; lords and
persons of position, foregone and existing, in all
the provinces and states of the German empire.
The Preface is by John David Kohler. G.
In the year 1698 a book was published by J. A.
Rudolphi, at Nurenberg, entitled Heraldica Cu-
riosa. It is in German, a thin folio, with an in-
numerable quantity of engravings of the arms of
German families. J. B.
The Eye (Vol. viii., p. 25.). — I hope that in-
teresting question raised by your correspondent
H. C. K., respecting the term '* apple of the
eye," will meet with attention from some philo-
logist. It might help to solve it, if it comd be
discovered when the phrase first came into use
in our language. Is it possible that the word
" apple" is a corruption of the Latin ** pupilla ?" or
is it, according to U. C. K.*s suggestion, that the iris,
and not the pupil, is taken to represent an apple ?
Doubtless your learned correspondent is aware
that in Zech. ii. 12. the Hebrew phrase is varied,
the word riDS being used, and occurring only in
this passage. If Gesenius*s derivation of this word
be correct, which makes it to signify " the gate of
the eye," we have this idea put into a fresh shape.
Have not the Arabs a phrase, " He is dearer to
me than the pupil of mine eye," as well as the
other one, "The man of the eye?" Curiously
enough, the Greeks express this idea by another
word than KSfnt, viz. yK-fivri (i.e. K6fnis alyfi, the
splendour of the pupil (kin. c^yKrf), or the pupil
itself, o<f>ea\fiov K6pi\), in which the change of signi-
fication is exactly the converse of what it is in
K6ftri\ viz., 1st, pupil; 2nd, a little girl; whence,
as a term of reproach, l/o/oe koi^ yxiivn. QuissTOB.
Canute^ s Point, Southampton (Vol. vii., p. 380.).
— A correspondent having noticed the inscription
on the Canute Castle Inn, Southampton, inquires
for proof to authenticate the locality of the tra-
dition referred to. I submit the following extract
from a local history :
<* Canute*s Point was a projection of the shore near
the mouth of the Itchen, where it is supposed the cde-
brated but much-embellished reproof to his courtiers
was administered ; and it was preserved by a line of
piles driven into the beach, until the construction of
the docks, which effaced the old beach line. Of Ca^
nute*s Palace there are still a few remains, and the
position fully justifies the presumption of its identity.**
These piles were, I believe, in existence in the
year 1836, when the act for the construction of
the docks was obtained. Wulliam Spook*
Aug. 27. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Sijmnn Patrick, Bishop of Eli/ — Durham —
Weilon (Vol. viii., p. 103.).— ,
"Eilwatd Wcslon, A.B. 17Z3, A.M. 1727, born at
Eton, ton of Steven Weston or 1682, Bisbop of Eieler.
He iras secretary to Lord Townsenit at HanoTer,
during the king's residence there in 1729. He con-
tinued ^veral years In tlic ollice of Lord Hnrringlon
as Becretary. He vras also Iraasmllltr (query, troni-
ftrfor ?) of the State PapeTS,and one of the clerks to the
Signet. In 1741 he was appointed gazetteer, a ptsce
of considerable einolunwnt. In 1746 he was secretary
to Lord Haningtoii, Lord- Lieu (en ant of Irclaiitl, and
became a privy councillor of that kinititom. He pul>-
lialied, tbough a layman, a volume v( sermons. His
son Is nour [vii. 1797] a prebendary of Durham and
Si. Paul's, and rector of Theitield near Royston."—
Jiaiwood'* Alumni Etoneaiei, p. 300., under I7t9.
Corkenhatcli must be Coekenhatcb, near Bnrk-
way, J. H, L.
Satile of rnicra en Couche (Vol. vjii., pp. 8.
127.), — All autUoiitalive record of tbis action may
be found iu —
" An Historical Journal of tlie British Campaign
ou Hie Continent, in the year I7<)4; nltli the Retreat
through Holland, in the year 1795. By Captain L.T.
Jones, of the 14lh regimenl. Dedicated, by permit
sion. to his Royal Highness Field Marshal the Duke
of York. Printed fur the Author. Birmingham,
1797."
The list of subscribers contains about a hundred
names. There ia a. copy of it in the Britisb Museum.
The one now before mc is rendered more valuable
by copious marginal notes, evidently written by the
author, which are at the service of your corre-
spondents. They funiiEh the following exlra-
orJinary instance of personal bravery :
" The same officer of this corps (3rd dragoon
guards), who lore ofT the corpse of General Mansell,
relate! $ome particulars in the nclion of the S4tl), under
Gen. Otto : —that a man of the name of Barnes, who
bad been unfortunately reduced from a Serjeant lo the
ranks, had bravely advanced, doing eiecu|ion ou the
enemy, till his retreat was foreclosed, and he w»» seen
engaged with live French dragoons at once; all of
these he fairly cut down, when nine more came upon
him, whom lie faced and faitly kept at bay, till one of
" It is not possible to describe the bravery of the
army on that day, nearly the whole of the British
eavalry were engaged, and gained immortal honour."
The Duke of York's address to the army,
publiBhcd on the 2Sth of April, thus concludes :
" His Royal Highness has, at all times, had the
highest confidence in the courage of the British troops
in general, and he trusts that the cavalry will now be
convinced that whenever they attack villi the firmneti,
velocity, and order nhich they bliowed on this occasion,
no number of the enemy (we have lo deal with) can
BlBLIOTHECAR. ChBTHAM,
Carious Poslhumoui Occurrence (Vol. viii., p. 5.),
— Though the viortby grave -Jigger's account, re-
ported by A. B. C., may be cibargeable with some
exaggeration as to the generality of body -turning,
and though the decomposing reason assigned may
not be true, yet, that many dead human bodies
are found with their faces downwards, is never-
theless quite correct.
WorlM are now in progress, at tlie east end of
this metropolis, under my own immediate observ-
ation, where this fact has been incontestably veri-
fied. How long since, or on what occasion, these
remains of mortality were placed there, I know
not ; but, in the course of excavation required for
the foundations, they are frequently met with,
and, in many instances, in tliis strange position,
I had couie to the conclusion, that, during some
raging pestilence (and which may indeed again
occur, unless an acceleration takes place in our
wounded- snake-like motion in the way of sanitary
improTenient), I say, it had been my impression,
that during some such awful calamity, the anxiety
of the uncontaninated to avoid infection bad in-
duced them to remove their less fortunate fellow-
creatures out of the way with so much haste as
actually to bury Ibem alive I and in some con-
vulsive struggle between life and death, they had
turned themselves overt K. M.
In reply to this Note, I would remark that I
have consulted a grave-digger "grown old in
the service" here, and he tells me he never re-
members a case where, after interment, in pro-
cess of time the occiput lakes the place of the
facial bones ; but, he says, very frequently the
head drops either on one side or the other — a ai-
cumstance which any one conversant with the
human skeleton and the connexion of the cranium
vritU the vertebr» would deem most natural.
BsisiouBnBiB.
Passage in Job (yd\.\ii., p. H.). — This question
is answered, as far as it seems possible, hy^ameB,
in his Notes on Job, which Mr. Edwin Jokes may
easily consult. The fact appears to be that we have
no informiition respecting the passage in question
beyond what is furnished by itself fi. H. C.
St. Pa>d and Seneca (Vol. viii., p. 88.).— There
ia an account of the work referred to in the July
number of the Journal of Sacred Literature, edited
by Dr. Kitto. It will be found among the "Foreign
Intelligence." " "^
B. H. C.
Hanlf-naked (Vol.vii., pp.432.558.). — Aa my
Query m reference lo this place has drawn forth a
206
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 200.
Note or two from some correspondents of yours,
allow me to thank them, and at the same time to
inform them that " A general Collection of all
the Offices of England, with the Fees, in the
Queene*s guifte," a manuscript temp. Elizabeth,
contains the following reference. Under the head
•* Castles," &c. occurs, —
Walbertoa and
Haulf-naked.
" Com, Sussex.
'Keeper of the Manor of
Half-naked and Good-
wood
Keeper of the Wood and
Chace of Walberton -
8,
d.
- 20 0 O
3 O 10."
Chablbs Heed.
Books chained to Desks in Churches (Vol. viii.,
p. 94.). — An engraving of a very fine perpendi-
cular lettern, having a book fastened to it by a
chain, is given in the Proceedings of the Arch. Inst.
for 1846, as existing at that time in the church of
St. Crux, York. In 1851 I noticed the upper
part of one in Chesterton Church near Cambridge,
placed on the sill of the east window of the south
usle with a book lying upon it, very much torn
and wanting the title-page. I ascertained the
subject of it at the time ; but omitted to make a
note of it, and I am sorry to say it has now slipped
my memory.
Hutter, in his Somersetshire, speaks of some old
reading-desks, which were still remaining in 1829
in Wrington Church, fastened to the walls of the
chancel,, on which were several books, " especially
Fox's Martyrs, and* the Clavis BibUorum of
F. Roberts, who was rector of the parish in 1675."
There was one also about the same time at Chew
Magna Church, Somersetshire ; with a copy of
Bishop Jewel's Defence of the Church chained to
it. In Kedcliff Church, Bristol, there is a small
mahogany one supported by a bracket, with a
brass chain attached, near the vestry on the north
side of the choir. Until within a very few years,
a desk, with Fox's Martyrs lying upon it, was in
the Holy Trinity Church, Hull, affixed to one of
the pillars in the nave.
A fine old Bible and chain is shown amongst the
relics at Trinity Church, Stratford-upon-Avon.
It would appear that theological woi^s were
not the only ones secured in this manner : for I
find (Butter's Somersetshire, p. 258.) that one
Captain S. Sturmy of Easton in Gordano pub-
lished a folio, entitled The Mariner's or ArtisarCs
Magazine, a copy of which he gave to the parish
to be chaii^d and locked in the desk, -until any
ingenious person should borrow it, letting 3/. as
a security in the hands of the trustees against
damage, &c. B. W. Elliott.
It is somewhat strange that I should have
omitted the following passage whilst writuag on
this subject in a recent Number, as the work
I
to which it refers, Bishop Jewel's I>efence of hU
Apology for the Church of England^ ii so wdl
known :
"At the desire of Archbishop Parker, a copy of the
Defence was set up soon after Jewel's death, in almost
every parish church in England ; and fragments of it
are still to be seen in some churches, together with the
chain by which it was attached to the reading-desk
provided for it."
This extract is taken from the Life qf Bishop
Jewel, prefixed to the English translation of the
Apology, edited by Dr. Jelf for the Societj for
promoting Christian Knowledge (8vo. Lend. 1849),
p. XX.
An order for the setting up of "^the Parcphrases
of Erasmus in English upon the gospels " in some
convenient place within all churches and chapels
in the province of York, will be found in Arch-
bishop Grindal's Injunctions for the Laity, § 4.
(Remains, ^c, Parker Society, p. 134.) See also
the Articles to be enquired of within Ae Province
of Canterhurie, § 2. (Ibid. p. 158.)
W. Sparrow Simpsov.
In Malvern Abbey Church is a stand to which
two books are chained. The one in a commentary
on the Book of Common Prayer ; the other is a
treatise on Church Unity. In Kinver Church
(Worcestershire) are three books placed in a desk
(not chained) in the south aisle : being The WhoU
Duty of Man (1703) ; A Sermon made in Latiite in
the Reigne of Edward the Sixte, by John Jewel,
Bishop of Sarisburie ; and lite Aetes and MonU'
mentes of Christian Martyrs (1583).
CUTHBBRT BXDE, B. A.
At Bowness Church, on Windennere Lake,
there is (or at least was, in 1842) a copy of
Erasmus's Paraphrase chained. If I am not mis-
taken, some of Jewel's works wiU ako be found
there. E. H. A.
Schellrum (Vol. vi., p. 364.). — Kari* will find
sckeUrum, variously written *^ scheltrun, aheltrun,
shiHroun, schetrome," of very common occurrence
in the translation of the Old Testament \yj WicUff
and his followers ; it is there rendered from the
Lat. ades. The instances quoted by Jamieson,
from the Latin testudo, come nearer to the origin,
shield. Q.
Bloomsbury.
Quarrel (Vol. vi., p. 172.). — Baixiolsnsis will
be pleased with Mr. Trench's ingenious account of
our conversion of a complaint into a quarrel.
" The Latin word (qttereJa) m^ns properly < com-
plaint,' and we have in 'querulous* this its prosier
meaning coming distinctly out. Not so, however, in
< quarrel,' for Englbbmen, being wont not merely to
* complain,' but to set vigorously about righting and
redressing themselves, their grie£i being also grievaacai*
out of thift word, whi^ might hftv« given tb«m only
Aug. 27. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
207
' querulous ' an^d * qnerulousness,* have gotten ' quarrel '
as well." — On the Stutfy of Words, p* 57.
" We migbt safely conclode,*' Mr. Trench prenmcs,
** that a nation would not be likely tamely to submit
to tyranny and wrong, which made * quarrel ' out of
* querela.' "
This, I say, is very ingenious, but did this nation
make qwarrel out of querela ? Did they not take
it ready made from their neighbours, the French,
Italian, Spanish, who have all performed, and, I
presume, led the way in performing, tlie same
exploit ; showing that they must all have bad the
same dbposition inhering in them to set about
righting and redressing themselves, though not
always, perhaps, with so prompt and active a
vigour as that ascribed to the English by Mr.
Trench. Q.
Bloom*»bury.
WildPleaUs^ arid their Naanes (Vol. vii., p. 233.).
— A preparation from St. John^s Wort, called red
oil, is used in the United States for the cure of
bruises and cuts. It may have been formerly
used in England. St. John*s Wort is one of the
commonest weeds in the Middle States. Un£i>a.
Pfailadelphra.
Jeremy Taylor and Christopher Lord Hattan
(Vol. vii., p. 305.). — Bishop Taylor uses the word
relative in the sense of a dependant or humble
friend in several places in his works ; a fact which
his editor. Bishop Heber, missed observing, as
appears from a passage in the Preface to Taylor's
Worhs, M. E.
Philadelj^iia.
Burial on the North Side of Churches (Vol. vi.,
p. 112. &c.). — The opinion of your corref.pondent
SiLLEUcus, that the avoidance of burial on the
north side of a churchyard is to be attributed to
its being generally the unfrequented side of the
church, is borne out by the fact, that in the rare
cases where the entrance to the church is only on
the north side, the graves are also to be ibund
there in preference to being on the south, which
in such a case would of course be *' the back of
the church." Seleucus mentions one instance of
a church entered only from the north. To this
example may be added the little village church
of Mai'tin Hussingtree, between Worcester and
Droitwich, where the sole entrance is on the
jkorth, and where aU the burials are on the same
side of the church. Cuthbert Bei^b, B. A.
Muhrical Query (VoL viL, p. 247.). — The con-
tradiction of the two rubrics is purely imaginary.
Both are to beclosdy construed. The ^r^ enjoins
notice to be given of Communion as of any other
festival ; the second provides that in the same ser-
vice (notice having been so given) the Exhortation
shaU be the last impressfton on the thoc^ts of the
congregation. S. Z« Z. S»
Stone Pillar Worship (Vol. vii., p. 383.).— The
Rowley Hills near Dudley, twelve in number, and
eadi beanng a distinctive name, make up what
may be called a mountain of basaltic rock, which
extends for several miles in the direction of Hales
Owen. From the £ice of a precipitous termin-
ation of the southern extremity of these hills rises
a pillar of rock, known as the '^ The Hail Stone.**
I conjecture that the word hail may be a eornip*
tion of the archaic word Acrfy, h<dy ; and that this
pilhir of rock may have been the object of religioas
worship in ancient times. The name maj have
been derived directly from the Anglo-Saxon Hsdeg
Stan, holy stone. It is about three quarters of a
mile distant from an ancient highway called
"The Fortway," whieh is supposed to be of British
origin, and to have led to the salt springs at
Droitwich. I have no knowledge of any other
place bearing the name of Hail Stone, except a
farm in the parish of West Fetton in Shropshire,
which is called "The Hail Stones.** No stone
pillars are now to be found upon it : there is a
quarry in it which shows that the sand rock lies
there very near the surface. Dr. Plot, in his
History of Staffordshire (p. 170.), describes the
rock on the Rowley Hills as being " as big and as
high on one side as many church steeples are.**
He relates that he visited the spot in the year
1680, accompanied by a land-surveyor, who, ten
years before that time, had noticed that at this
place the needle of the compass was turned six
degrees from its due position. The influence
which the iron in basaltic rocks has on the needle
was not known at that period, and the Doctor
makes two conjectures in explanation of the phe-
nomenon observed. First, he says, " there must
be in these lands that miracle of Nature we call a
loadstone ; " and he adds, " unless it come to pass
by some old armour buried hereabout in the late
civil war.** The sonorous property of the rock led
him to conjecture "that there might be here a
vault in which some great person of ancient times
might be buried under this natural monument;
but digging down by it as near as I could where
the sound directed, I could find no such matter.**
Plot does not mention the name by which this
rock was known. It is not mentioned at all by
either Erdeswick, Shaw, or Pitt, in their Histories
of Staffordshire. N. W. S.
Bad (Vol. vL, p. 509.). — Home Tooke's ety-
mology may, perhaps, satisfy B. H. Cowpbb's in-
quiry, or at least gratify his curiosity. He as-
sumes the bay or bark of a dog to be excited by
what it abkorsy hateSj defies; and farther, tiiat aui
epi-thet of bad b apj^ed by us to that, which, far
reasons whieh we may call moral (fistheticy 1 be^
208
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 200.
lieve I ought to say) reasons or feelings, we hate^
or abhor. And he forms it thus, hay-ed, bay*d,
WJ, bad, Q.
Bloomsbury.
PorC'pisee (Vol. vi., p. 579.). — Mb. Warde
will find that this is the old English way of writing
porpoise^ more nearly to the French and Italian.
Spenser writes porcpisces^ and Ray porpesse, i. e.
porc'pesee. Both are quoted in Richardson.
" WTiecd instead of milk," is whey or whig. " To
flesh in sin," is to indulge in, to accustom to, to
inure to, the gratification of the sinful lusts of the
flesh. Johnson has from Hales the same expres-
sion " fleshed in sin," which he interprets " har-
dened." Q.
Bloomsbury.
LowbeU (VoLvii., pp. 181. 272.). — Your cor-
respondents H. T. W. and M. H. will find suffi-
cient reasons from Nares* quotations to convince
them that hwbeU is so called from its sound ; and
the usage by Hammond (in Johnson) that the
verb, to lowbell, was used consequentially to sig-
nify to frighten into a snare, and thus, to ensnare.
And the noun, a snare, allurement, temptation.
'* Now commonly he who desires to be a minister
looks not at the work, but at the wages ; and by that
lure or lowheU may be toll'd from parish to parish all
the town over." — Milton, "Hirelings," &c.. Works,
▼ol. i. p. 529.
Q.
Bloomsbury.
Praying to the West (Tol. vlii., p. 102.). — The
isles of the West, by which is understood what we
term the British Isles, in the ancient Hindoo
writings are described as ihe Sacred Isles, or the
abode of religion. The Celtic tribes used the
practice of turning to the West in their religious
rites, having adopted it in a very early age from
a reason similar to that which led the Turks in a
later age to turn towards Mecca, and other nations
towards the East; that is, the superior sanctity
attached by each to these several points. This
practice the Celtic tribes brought with them in
their migration from the East to those parts in
which we now find it in the West ; where it has
been retained by their descendants after the cir-
cumstances which gave rise to it had been lon^
forgotten. G. VT.
Stansted, Montfichet
Old Dog (Vol. iv., p. 21.).— See The Observer
(Cumberland's), No. 131. : — " Uncle Antony was
an old dog at a dispute." F. J. F. Gantullon, B.A.
Contested Elections (Vol. vii., p. 208.). — An
account of many of the English contested elec-
tions may be found in Oldfield's Representative
History of Great Britain and Ireland^ 6 vols. :
London, 1816. I hope that X. Y. Z. .does not
rank this among the "wretched compilations.**
Oldfield was a man of much experience as a par-
liamentary agent, and his book is entertaining —
at least, to us Americans. l£. "E.
Philadelphia.
'"Bathe" in the Sense of early'' (Vol. vii^
p. 634. et alibi.). — See The Antiquary, cap. xzxix.
I (vol. i. p. 468. People's Edition), where Maggie
Mucklebacket says :
" I havena had the grace yet to come down to thank
your honour for the credit ye did puir Steenie^ wi*
laying his head in a rath grave.**
The Glossary explains the word as ready^ quicks
early. P. J. F. Gantillon, B. A.
Chip in Porridge (Vol. i., p. 382.). — Though
a long time has elapsed, I see nothing more on the
subject of this phrase than Q. D.*8 application for
information regarding it.
I take it to mean a nonentity, a thing of no im-
portance, and to have no more distinctive origin
than the innumerable other cant sayings in daily
use.
In a book recently published. Personal Adven^
tures of our own Correspondent, by M. B. Honan,
vol. i. p. 151., occurs this passage :
" It is very easy to stand well with all by being,
what is vulgarly called, 'a chip in porridge.* **
W. T. M.
Hong Kong.
" A saint in crape is twice a saint in lawn "
(Vol. viii., p. 102.). — See Pope's Moral Essays^
Ep. 1. 1. 136. F. B— w.
Gibbon's Library (Vol. vii., p. 407.) — West's
Portrait of Franklin (Vol. vii., p. 409.). — Gibbon*8
library was sold at Lausanne m 1833. I have a
copy of Le Theatre de Marivaux, four volumes
12mo. (Amst. et k Leipzig, 1756), which contains
the following MS. note on the fly-leaf of the first
volume : '* Gibbon*s copy, bought at the sale of his
library at Lausanne, Sept. 1833. — John Wobds-
woRTH." You will find a reference to this gentle-
man, "N. & Q.," Vol. v., p. 604. About four
hundred of Gibbon*s books were in the library of
the late Rev. Samuel Farmar Jarvis, of Con-
necticut^ who bought them nt Lausanne. Among
them was Casiri, Bibliotheca ArabicO'Hispama.
Some of these books had his name, E. Gibbon,
printed in them in Roman letters ; others had his
coat of arms. Dr. Jarvis*s library was sold by
Lyman and Raw don in New York on the 14tn
of October, 1851, for very good prices. I possess
Gibbon's copy of Herrera's America^ in English,
6 vols. 8vo.
I think there must be some mistake about the
portrait of Dr. Franklin by West, mentioned by
Aug. 27. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
209
your correspondent H. G. D. I have never heard
of but one portrait by West of Dr. Franklin, and
that was painted for my grandfather, Mr. Edward
Duffield, one of the executors of the Doctor's will,
and sent to him by the Doctor himself. It is now
in my possession, in excellent preservation. A short
notice of it will be found in the ninth volume of
Franklin's Writings (Sparks's ed.), p. 493.
Edward D. Ingraham.
Walnut Street, Philadelpliia.
Derivation of ''^Island'''* (Yol.viii., p. 49.). — H. C.
K.'s derivation of island from eye^ the visual orb,
because each are surrounded by water, seems to
me so like a banter on etymologists, that I am
doubtful whether I ought to notice it ; but as our
Editor seems, by the space he has given it, to take
it as serious, I shall venture to say two or three
words upon it. H. C. K. begins by begging the
question : he says that " the etymon from the Fr.
isle^ It. isola^ Lat. insula, is manifestly erroneous.^*
iNow I think I can prove — and that by a single
word — that it is "manifestly" the true one. I
only reverse his order of placing these words; they
should stand, the mother first, the children after ;
insiUa Lat., isola It., isle Fr., and to them I add
my single word, which H. C. K. has chosen to
ignore altogether, isle English ; as. Isle of Wight,
Isle of Man, Isle of Thanet, Isles of Arran, &c.
This single word, thus supplied, is to my mind a
sufficient answer to H. C. K.*s theory ; but I may
add, as a corroboration, the peculiarity of retain-
ing in spelling, and dropping in pronunciation, the
8 in the English is;le and island, just as it is in the
French isle and islot. Indeed the relation between
the French and English words is, in this case, not
derivation but identity. I may also observe that
the Scotch and Irish names for an island, inch, innis,
ennis — as, J7?c^-keith, Innis-fdWen, Ennis-kiWen
— are "manifestly" derived from insula, the com-
mon parent of all. I half suspect that H. C. K.
is a wag, and meant to try whether we should take
seriously what he meant as all my eye ! C.
Spur (Vol. vi., pp. 242. 329.). — To spur is to
spere, by Gower written sper, to searcn or seek,
to inquire into ; and your correspondents might
have found the word fully treated and illustrated
by Jamieson, and more briefly by Richardson.
To a^k at church is a common expression, and
Spur Sunday is merely Asking Sunday. Q.
Bloomsbury.
On the Use of the Hour-glass inPidpits ("Vol. vii.,
p. 489. ; Vol. viii., p. 82.). — The complete iron
framework of an hour-glass remained affixed to
the pulpit of Shelsley Beauchamp Church, Worces-
tershire, until the restoration of the church, about
eight years ago, by the present rector, the Rev.
D. Melville, who carefully preserved the hour-
glass relic. In order to show how much had been
done for the church, I drew interior and exterior
views of the old building, with its great dilapi-
dations and unusually-monstrous disfigurements,
which drawings were hung in the vestry, at the
suggestion of the rector, as parish memorials ; a
proceeding which I think might be copied with
advantage in all cases of church restoration. In
the one drawing mentioned the hour-glass stand
is a conspicuous object. Cuthbert Sede, B.A.
The following extract is from a tract published
by the Cambridge Camden Society, entitled A few
Hints on the Practical Study of Ecclesiastical Anti"
quities:
" Hour-glass Stand. A relick of Puritanick times.
They are not very uncommon ; they generally stand
on the right'haud of the pulpit, and are made of iron.
Examples : Coton, Shepreth. A curious revolving
one occurs at Stoke D'Abernon, Surrey, and in St. John
Baptist, Bristol, where the hour-glass itself remains.
Though a Puritanick innovation, it long kept its place:
for Gay in his Pastorals writes :
' He said that Heaven would take her soul no doubt.
And spoke the hour-glass in her praise quite out : *
and it is depicted by the side of a pulpit in one of
Hogarth's paintings."
I saw, a few weeks ago, an iron hour-glass stand
affixed to the pulpit in Odell Church, Beds.
W. P. Storeb.
Olney, Bucks.
" The inventorie of all such church goods, etc
which the churchwardens [of Great Staughton, co.
Hunt.] are and stand charged with. May 31, 1640.
[//iter alia.']
" Itm. A pulpit standinge in the church, having a
cover over the same, and an houre-glasse adjoininge.'*
Joseph Rix.
St. Neots.
Selling a Wife (Vol. vii., pp. 429. 602.). —There
can be no question that this offence is an indictable
misdemeanor. I made, at the time, a memoran-
dum of the following case :
" West Riding Yorkshire Sessions, June 28, 1837.
Joshua Jackson, convicted of selling his wife, im-
prisoned for one month with hard labour."
S. K.
Chiswick.
Impossihilitics of History (Vol. viii., p. 72.). —
St. Bernard, according to Gibbon, lived from 1091
to 1153. Henry I., who did rebel against his
father, was twelve years oMer than the Saint, and
ascended the throne at the nge of twenty-one in
the year 1100, when the Saint was nine years old.
The descent from the devil alludes, I should think,
to Robert le Diable, the father of the Conqueror.
The historian of The Tablet found the authority
most probably in some theatrical review or flv-leaf
of the libretto. J» H. L.
210
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 200.
Led and Z«» (Vol. vii., p. 256.)« — Lass^
Hickes (quoted bj L^e in Junius) says, was
originally written, and is a corruption of laddess ;
thus, we may suppose laddess, ktdse, lass : and lad
may correlate with the Gr. A^wt^, a leader, so
fiixDiliar to us in the sneered at jmd-agogue, i. e.
the hoj-leader. The lad, from the Anglo-Saxon
Usdian, to lead (says Junius), is the lead — " One
who, on account of hb tender years, is under a
leader, a guide, a director."
We apply the [common expression " He is yet
in leading string '* to him who has not strength or
courage to go luone, to act independently for him-
self. Q.
Bloomsbury.
Enough (Vol. vii., p. 455.). — Enough was not,
and is not always, nor was it originally, pro-
nounced enuf. The old way of writing was
"ynou, inouh, ynowgh ;" and in Gower, enough is
made to rhyme with slough, i. e. slow or slew, the
past tense of slay. Ms. Weight will find this to
be so by looking into Richardson's quotations.
The word, he will see also, was from very early
lames written, as still not un frequently pronounced,
enew or enow. Q.
Bloomsbury.
1774.
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"ThatSwinney" 213
Monumental Inscription in Peterborougli Cathedral, by
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Folk Lore: — Superstition of tiie Cornish Miners —
Northamptonshire Folle Lore - - - - 215
Shalispeare Correspondence . - - - 216
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VoL.Vni. — No.201.
"that swinney."
Junius thus wrote to H. S. Woodfall in a private
note, to which Dr. Good has affixed the date
July 21st, 1769 (vol. i. p. 174.*) :
" That Swinney is a wretched but dangerous fool.
He had the impudence to go to Lord G. Sackvilley
whom he had never spoken to, and to ask him whether
or no he was the author of Junius : take care of him."
This paragraph has given rise to a great deal of
speculation, large inferences have been drawn
from it, yet no one has satisfactorily answered the
question, who was " that Swinney ? "
That neither Dr. Good nor Mr. George Wood-
fall, the editors of the edit, of 1812, knew anything
about him, is manifest from their own bald note
of explanation, " A correspondent of the printers."
Some reports say that he was a collector of news
for the Public Advertiser, and subsequently a
bookseller at Birmingham, but I never saw any
one fact adduced tending to show that there was
any person of that name so employed. Others
that the Rev. Dr. Sidney Swinney was the party
referred to : and Mr. Smith, in his excellent notes
to the Grenville Papers, vol. iii. p. Ixviii., assumes
this to be the fact. I incline to agree with him,
but have only inference to strengthen conjecture.
What may be the value of that inference will
appear in the progress of this inquiry, Who was
Dr. Sidney Swinney ?
Reports collected by Mr. Butler, Mr. Barker,
Mr. Coventry, and others, say that the Doctor had
been chaplain to the Russian Embassy, chaplain
to the Embassy at Constantinople, and chaplain to
one of the British regiments serving in Germany.
Mr. Falconer, in his Secret Revealed, p. 22., quotes
a para^aph from one of Wray's letters to Lord
Hardwick with reference to the proceedings at
the Royal Society :
** Dr. Swinney, your Lordship's friend, presented
his father-in-law HowelPs book."
Swinney's father-in-law, here called Howell, was
John Zephaniah Holwell, a remarkable man, whose
name is intimately associated with the early his-
tory of British India, one of the few survivors bf
the Black Hole imprisonment, the suocessor of
214
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Ho. 201.
Clive B9 goTemor, ind a writer on many inbjecta
connected with Hindoo antiquitiei. Swiiuiej
enrols liim amongst his heroes,
"HoWell, Clive, York, Lawreoce, Adams, Coote,
Of Draper, Bath-urung Tar bis baffled luit."
And he refers, in a note, to those
" Unjp-Bteful monslcrj (heretofore in a certain trading
eompany), who hare enciraToured to vilify and sully
one of tLie brightest characters that ever etbted."
I learn larther, from a volunte of y^igUioe
certain frittid of mine, in the deseriplion of ■ ihort
tour wbicb ht made through the principal part* of tlM
Levant ; should they be accompanied with H few caiual
It must be obvious, ader this declaration, that
the Tour set forth so conspicuauslj in the title-
page, was not written by Swinney. Now the
" Itinerary" which follows is advowedly " wrote by
1 after
hia flourishing fashion hecills on nnolher occasion
" Mathew Swinney of immortal memory ; " from
one of his dedications that the Doctor himself nas
educated at Eton ; from the books of the Royul
Society that he was of Clare Hall, Cambridge ',
from dates and dedications, that from 1764 to
1T68, be was generally resident at Scarborough ;
and from tbe Genilemaii't Magazine, tLat bo died
there 12th November, 1783.
That Swinoej had been chaplain to the Russian
Embassy I have no reason to believe i but that be
had beeu in the fast for a time, possibly as chap-
laia to the Embassy at Constantinople, is asserted
in the brief biographical notice iu the Gendtman'i
Afagatine, and would leem to be proved \ij a work
which he pubbsbed ia 1769, called^
"A Tour through some parti of tlie Levant: in
which it included An Account of th« Present Stale of
tbe Seven Churches in Asia. Also a brief Eiplanation
of the Apocalypse. By Sidney Svinoey, D.D."
Nothing, however, can be inferred from a title-
page of Swinney's. Here we have two or three
distbct works referred to ; — A Tour, including
" An Account of the Seven Churches," and the
"Explanation of the Apocalypse." Now I must
direct attention to tie fact, that from the peculiar
pnnctuation and phraseology — die full-stop after
A«a in this title-page — it may hare been Swmney's
intention to indicate, without asserting, that the
Account of the Apocalypse wi^ was by Sidney
Swinney. If ao, though Swinnej's name alone
figures in the title-p^e of the work, he is re-
aponsible only for one or two notes !
I would not have written conjectorally on this
subject if I could have avoided it; but though
Swinney was a F.A.S. F,R.S., and though Uie
wort is dedicated to the Fdlowi of those Sodeties,
no copy of it is to be found in the libraries of
either, or in the British Musenm. I cannot,
therefore, be sure that my own ccroy m perfect.
What that cop^ contains is thus set forth in half a
dozen lines of introducdoa :
■■ Before 1 [8. S.] enter npon the more impnrtanl
pari of any diasertatioo [Tbe Eiplanatioa of tlu Apo-
•^pie], it nay not be inproper to give you mme
•ecouDt of ibe preseot state of (he Eevn Cbui«b« in
Asia, as they are, tnUcA vat ctmmtmictUd te aw by a
The truth I suspect to have been this : — Swin-
ney was not prudent and was poor, and raised
money occasionally, al^er the miserable fashioii of
the time, by publishing books on snbacriptioB, and
receiving subscriptions in anticipation <rf pabli-
About this time, from 1767 to 1769, he pub-
lished a Sermon; The Ninth Satire of Horace, a
meaningless trifle of a hundred lines, swollen, bj
printing the original and notes, into a quarto ; a
volume of Fugitire Pieces; and tbe first canto rf
The Battie of Mindai, a Poem m thrgt Booht,
enriched with critical Notes by Two Friatdt, and
with ezplanatorg Noiei bg the Avffmr, Ot the
latter work, as of the Tour, I have never leai but
i specimen , . „ , , ,
tajning the first and second
Whether the third canto was ever pub-
lished is to me doubtful ; SMoe of your corre-
spondents may be able to give you information.
My own impression is tJiat it was oo^ and for the
following reasons.
Swinney, Id appears, had received subscriptions
for the work, and promised ia his prospectus a
plan of iMe batflu, and portra^ of the heroes,
which the work does not contain. "However, to
make some little amends" to his "generous aub-
BCribers," Swinney announces his intention to
present them with " three books instead of oac."
Tbe first bo(^ is dedicated to Earl Waldi^rave,
who commanded "the six British regiments of
infantry" on the "ever memorable IstAugnst,
llSd," sndanote affixed states that "Book the
Second" will be published an Ist January, and
" Book tbe Third '' on 1st of August
But the public, ss Swinney says, were kept " in
suspense " almost three years for the second book,
which was not published until 1772 ; and in the
dedicatioB of tbn second book, also to Earl Wal-
degraTe, Sivinney says :
" Doubtless Duuijr of my mbseriberi have thought
me very tmniintlfiil of the pronme I madfl tlnm in my
printed proposal, in which I undeilook to pidduli ^
fnem out of hand. Ill heidlh has been tbe nte cause
rf ray disappointing their eipeeUtions. A fever of the
nerves ... for these four years, bas mdend au in-
capable. ... In my original proposals I undertook to
publish this ivork in two books. [In tbe introduction
be says, as I have just quoted, am book.] Poefical
Sept. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIE&
215
matter hath increased upon me to snch a degree, in the
genial climate of Languedoc, as to have enabled me to
compose several more books on this interesting subject,
all which I purpose presenting my subscribers with at
the original price of half a guinea. . . . Many months
ago this Second Book was printed off; but on my
arrival in town from Montauban (whither I purpose
to return), I found there were so many faults and
blunders in it throughout, that I was under the neces-
sity of condemning five hundred copies to the inglorious
purpose of defending pye bottoms from the dust of an
oven. . . . Profit, my Lord, has not been my motive
for publishing : if it had, I should be egregiously dis-
appointed, for instead of gaining I shall be a consider-
able loser by the publication ; and yet many of my
subscribers have given me four^ five, and six times over
and above the subscription-price for my Poem, How even
the remaining books will see the light must depend entirely
upon my pecuniary ^ not my poetical abilities. The work
is well nigh completed ; but not one solitary brother
have I throughout the airy regions of Grub Street
who is poorer than I. It is not impossible, however,
but when som^ of my particd friends shall know this, they
may enable me by their bounty to publish out of hand.**
This leads me to doubt whether tiie third book
was ever published, for I think the most ** partial"
of his friends — those who had given " four, five,
and six times over and above the subscription
price ** — must have had enough in two books. If
it were not published, it is a curious fact that, in a
poem called The Battle of Minden^ the battle of
Minden is not mentioned ; though not more extra-
ordinary perhaps than the omissions of the " Ex-
planation of the Apocalypse " in his previous work.
I come now to the question. Why did Junius
speak so passionately and disrespectfully of Swin-
ney, and what are the probabilities that Swinney
had never before (July) 1769 spoken to Lord <t.
SackvUle ? These I must defer till next week.
T. S. J-
M01ffUME»TAL INSCRIPTION IN PETEBBOROUH
CATHEDBAIi.
The following Notes occur on a fiy-leaf at the
end of a copy of Gunton's History of Peterborough
Cathedral, and appear to have been written soon
after that book was printed:
" Among other thin^ omitted in this history, I can-
not but take notice of one ancient inscription upon a
tomb in y« body of the church, written in old Soxoo
letters, as followeth :
■^ ' ws : Ki : PAR : ci : pacisez : rvB. : le : alms :
ESTRAVNGE : DB : WATER VILLE : PBISS.*
** This inscription may seem to challenge som« rela-
tion to William de Waterville, one of the abbots «f
this church. (See p. 23.)"
'* On Seunour Gascelin de Marrham*8 tomb, men-
tioned p. 94., these letters seem to be still legible:
' ci : GIST : EDOVN : gasoeun ; BrnKStuvA : ds
HARRHAM : XABI8 : DE : RI '. AIM . . '■^ ZV
EST MERCIS : rATER : ITOSIER.
*n
'* In St. Oswald's Chapel, on y* ground round the
verge of a stone :
* HIC lACET COR . . « . ROBERTI DE SVTTON
ABBATIS ISTIVS MONASTERII CVIVS ANIMA
REQVIESCAT IN FACE. AMEK.' **
« In y« churchyard is this inscription :
1^1 ' AKA lOANNIS DE SCO IVONE QVOA FOMIS
FMA A M DUII FACE REQVIESCAT. AMEN.'
" This may probably relate to Ivo, sub-prior of this
monastery, whose anniversary was observed in y* Ka^
lends of March. (See page 324. of this book.)"
« In y« churchyard :
'Joannes Pocklington, S. S. Tbeologise doctor, ofoiit
Nov. 14, A. D' 1642.'
* Anne Pocklington, 1655.'
* Mary, y« wife of John Towers, late Lord Bp. of
Peterborough, dyed Nov. 14, a. d. 1672.*
< Quod mori potuit prsstantissime foemm«
Compton Emery
Filiae Joannis Towers S. T. P.
Hujus Ecclesiae quondam Episcopi
Yiduae Koberti Rowell LL. D.
Nee non charissimae oonjugis
Richardi Emery Gen:
In hoc tumulo depositum : Feb. 4.
A» ^tatis .54,
Ao Domini 1683.'"
A marginal note states that *^ The Chapter-house
and Cloyster sold in 1650 for 800/., to John Baker,..
Gent., of London." H. Thos. Wake.
rOUL ZX>BS.
Superstition of the Cornish Miners (Vol. viiL,-
p. 7.). — I cannot find the information desired by
your correspondent in the Cornish antiquaries, and
have in vain consulted other works likely to ex-
plain this tradition ; but the remarks now offered
will perhaps be interesting in reference to the
nation alluded to. The Carthaginians being oT
the same race, manners, and religion as the PhflB»
nicians, there are no particular data by which we
can ascertain the time of their first trading to ihe
British coast for the commodity in such request
among the traders of the East. The genius of
Carthage being more martial than that of Tyre,
whose object was more commerce than conquest,
it is not improbable that the former might by
force of arms have established a settleittent in the
Cassiterides, and by this means have secured that
monopoly of tin which the Phcenieians and their
colonies indubitably enjoyed for several centuries,
Norden, in his Antiquities of ComwaH, mentions
it as a tradition universally received by the inha-
bitants, that their tin mines were formerly wrought
by the Jews. He adds that these old works are
there at this day called Attal Barasln, the ancient
216
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 201.
cast-off works of the Saracens, in which their tools
are frequently found. Miners arc not accustomed
to be very accurate in distinguishing traders of
foreign nations, and these Jews and Saracens have
probably a reference to the old merchants from
Spain and Africa ; and those employed by them
might possibly have been Jews escaped the
horrors of captivity and the desolation which
about that period befel their country.
** The Jews," says Wbitaker ( Origin of Arianism,
p. 334. ), ** denominated themselves, and were deno-
minated by the Britons of Cornwall, SaracenSy as the
genuine progeny of Sarah. The same name, no doubt,
carried the same reference with it as borne by the
genuine, and as usurped by the spurious, offspring of
Abraham.**
BiBLIOTUEC.Ul. ChETHAM.
Northamptonshire Folk Lore (Vol. vii., p. 146.)«
— In Norfolk, a ring made from nine sixpences
freely siven by persons of the opposite sex is con-
sidered a charm against epilepsy. I have seen
nine sixpences brought to a silversmith, with a
request that he would make them into a ring ; but
isld, was not tendered to him for makin;^, nor do
I tnink that any threehalfpences are collected for
payment. After the patient had letl the shop,
the silversmith informed me that such requests
were of frequent occurrence, and that he supplied
the patients with thick silver rings, but never
took the trouble to manufacture them from the
aizpences.
A similar superstition supposes that the sole of
the left shoe or a person of the same age, but op-
posite sex, to the patient, reduced to ashes is a
cure for St. Anthony's fire. I have seen it applied
with success, but suppose its efficacy is due to
some astringent principle in the ashes. £. G. R.
SnAKSFEABB GOBBBSPONDENCB.
On Two Passages in Shakspeare. — Taking up a
day or two since a Number of " N. & Q.,*' my at-
tention was drawn to a new attempt to give a
solution of the difficulty which has been the tor-
ment of commentators in the following passage
from the Third Act of Romeo and Juliet :
•* Gallop apace, you fiery -footed steeds.
Towards Phoebus' mansion ; such a waggon cr
As Phaeton would whip you to the West,
And bring in cloudy night immediately. —
Spread thy close curtain, love-performing Night,
That runaways* eyes may wink, and llomco
Leap to these arms, untalk'd of and unseen."
" Runawajrs* *' being a manifest absurdity, the
recent editors have substituted "unawares," an
uncouth alteration, which, though it has a glim-
mering of sense, appears to mo almost as absurd
as the word it supplies. In this dilemna your
correspondent Mb. Sinqbb ingeniously suggests
the true reading to be, —
** That rumourera" eyes may wink, and Romeo
Leap to these arms, untalk'd of and unseen.**
No doubt this is a felicitous emendation, though
I think it may be fairly objected that a rumourer,
being one who deals in what he hears, as opposed
to an observer, who reports what he sees, there is
a certain inappropriateness in speaking of a ru-
mourer*s eyes. Be this as it may, I beg to sug-
gest another reading, which has the merit of havinp^
spontaneously occurred to me on seeing the word
" runaways* in your correspondent's paper, as if
obviously suggested by the combination of letters
in that word. I propose that the passage should
be read thus :
** Spread thy close curtain, love-performing Night»
That rude day's eyes may wink, and Romeo
Leap to these arms, untalk'd of and unseen."
A subsequent reference to Juliet^s speech has left
no doubt in my mind that this is the true reading,
and so obviously so, as to make it a wonder that
it should have been overlooked. She first asks
the *' fiery-footfed steeds " to brin^ in " oloadr
night," then night to close her curtain (that day^
eyes may wink), that darkness may comei under
cover of which Romeo may hasten to her. In the
next two lines she shows why this darkness is pro-
pitious, and then, using an unwonted epithet, in-
vokes night to give her the opportunity of dark*
ness :
" Come, civil night,
Thou sober suited matron all in black.
And learn me how to lose a winning game," &c.
The peculiar and unusual epithet ** civil,** here
applied to night, at once assured me of the accu-
racy of the proposed reading, it having evidently
suggested itself as the antithesis of "rude" just
before applied to day ; the civil, accommodating,
concealing night being thus contrasted with the
unaccommodating, revealing day. It is to be re-
marked, moreover, that as this epithet civU is,
through its ordinary signification, brought into
connexion with what precedes it, so is it, through
its unusual meaning of grave^ brought into con-
nexion with what follows, it thus furnishing that
equivocation of sense of which our great dramatist
is so fond, rarely missing an opportunity of '* pal-
tering with us in a double sense."
I think, therefore, I may venture to offer you
the proposed emendation as rigorously fulfilling
all the requirements of the text, while at the same
time it necessitates a ver^ trifling literal disturb-
ance of the old reading, since by the simple change
of the letters nato into ded^ we convert "run-
aways* ** into " rude day's," of which it was a very
easy misprint.
Having offered you an emendation of my own,
I cannot miss the opportunity of sending you
Sept. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
217
another, for which I am indebted to a critical
student of Shakspeare, my friend Mr. W. R.
Grove, the Queen s Counsel. In AWs Well that
ends Well, the third scene of the Second Act opens
with the following speech from Lafeu •,
" They say miracles ace past ; and we have our phi-
losophical persons to make modern and familiar things,
supernatural and causeless. Hence is it that we make
trifles of terrors ; ensconcing ourselves in a seeming
knowledge when we should submit ourselves to an un-
known fear."
On reading this passage as thus printed, it will
be seen that the two sentences of which it is com-
posed are in direct contradiction to each other ;
the first asserting that we have philosophers who
give a causeless and supernatural character to
things ordinary and familiar : the second stating
as the result of this, "that we make trifles of
terrors," whereas the tendency would necessarily
be to make " terrors of trifles.'* The confusion
arises from the careless pointing of the first sen-
tence. By simply shifting the comma at present
after " things," and placing it after " familiar," the
discrepancy between the two sentences disappears,
as also between the two members of the first sen-
tence, which are now at variance. It should be
pointed thus :
" They say miracles are past ; and we have our phi-
losophical persons to make modern and familiar, things
supernatural and causeless.**
It is singular that none of the editors should have
noticed this defect, which I have no doubt will
hereafter be removed by the adoption of a simple
change, that very happily illustrates the import-
ance of correct punctuation. K. H. C.
Shakspeare' s SkuU. — As your publication has
been the medium of many valuable comments
upon Shakspeare, and interesting matter con-
nected with him, I am induced to solicit inform-
ation, if you will allow me, on the following sub-
ject. I have the Works of Shakspeare, which
being in one volume 8vo., I value as being more
portable than any other edLition. It was published
by Sherwood without any date aflixed, but pro-
bably about 1825. There is a memoir prefixed by
Wm. Harvey, Esq., in which, p. xiii., it is stated
that while a vault was being made close to
Shakspeare*s, when Dr. Davenport was rector, a
young man perceiving the tomb of Shakspeare
open, introduced himself so far within the vault
that he could have brought away the skull, but
he was deterred from domg so by the anathema
inscribed on the monument, of —
" Curs*d be he that moves my bones.**
This is given upon the authority of Dr. Nathan
Drake's work on Shakspeare, in two vols. 4to.
Now in this work much is given which is copied
into the memoir, but I do not there find this
anecdote, and perhaps some reader of '* N. & Q.**
may supply this deficiency, and state where I may
find it. I may be allowed to state, that Pope 8
skull was similarly stolen and another substituted.
I annex Wheler^s remark that no violation of
the grave had, up to the time of his work, taken
place.
" Through a lapse of nearly two hundred years have
his ashes remained undisturbed, and it is to be hoped
no sacrilegious hand will ever be found to violate the
sacred repository." — History of Stratford-upon-Avon^
by R. B. Wheler (circa 1805 ?), 8vo.
A SUBSGBIBEB.
•
On a Passage in ^^Macbethy — Mb. Singleton
(Vol. vii., p. 404.) says, " Vaulting ambition, that
overleaps itself," is nonsense — the thing is impos-
sible ; and proposes that " vaulting ambition "
should " rest his hand upon the pommel, and o'«r-
leap the saddle (sell)," a thing not uncommon in
the feats of horsemanship.
Did Mb. Singleton never 6'erleap himself, and
be too late — later than himself intended ? Did he
never, in his younger days, amuse himself with a
soprasalto ; or with what Donne calls a " vanlter's
sombersault ? " Did he never hear of any little
plunderer, climbing a wall, overreaching himself to
pluck an apple, and falling on the other side, into
the hands of the gardener ? " By like," says Sir
Thomas More, " the manne there overshotte him-
self."
What was the manne about ? Attempting such a
perilous gambol, perhaps, as correcting Shakispeare.
To overleap "| , . ,-rmerely, to leap, reach, shoots
^^ inimseiti ^^^^ or beyond the mark
I himself intended.
Q.
overreach
overshoot
}
are
Bloomsbury.
P.S. — Mb. Abbowsmith reminds us of the old
saw, that "great wits jump." He should recol-
lect also that they sometimes nod.
Lemon-juice administered in Gout and Rheuma"
tism, — At a time when lemon-juice seems to be
frequently administered in gout and rheumatism,
as though it were an entirely new remedy, I have
been somewhat amused at the following passage,
which may also interest some of your readers ; it
occurs in Scelta di Lettere Familiari degli Autori
piu celehri ad uso degli studiosi delta lingua Jta-
liana, p. 36., in a letter "Di Don Prancesco a
Teodoro Villa" :
" lo non posso star meglio di quel che sto, e forse
perche uso di spesso il bagno freddo, e beo limonata a
pranzo e a cena da molti mesi. Questa d la mia quoti-
diana bevanda, e dacche mi ci sono messo, m* ha &tto
un bene che non si puo dire. Di quelle doglie di capo,
218
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[No. 201.
t^c un tempe mi scoequassavano !• tempie, non ne
swBto piii una. Le ▼ertigini, che un tratto mi favori-
irtUM> si di spesso, se ne sono ite. Sino uii reumatismo,
che m* aveva afferrato per un braccio, s* e dlleguato,
cosH ch' io farei ora alia lotta col piii valente marinaro
•calabrese che sia. L* appetito mio pizzica del vorace.
-Che buona cosa il sugo d' un limone spremato neir
acqua, e indolciato con un po* di zucchero! Fa di pro-
^arlo, Teodoro. Chi sa che non assesti il capo e lo
stomaco auche a te."
S. Gr. C.
Weather Proverbs. — Are these proverbs worth
recording ?
" Rain before seven, fine before eleven."
-" A mackerel sky and mare's tails,
Make lofty ships carry low sails."
"** If the rain comes before the wind,
Lower your topsails and take them in :
If the wind comes before the rain,
Lower your topsails and hoist them again."
Tke expreasicms in the latter two are maritime,
and the rhymes not very choice ; but they hold
equally in terrestrial matters, and I have seldom
found them wrong. Kubi.
Dog Latin. — The answer of one of your late cor-
respondents (E. M. B., Vol. vii., p. 622.) on the
subject of " Latin — Latiner," has revived a Query
in your First Volume (p. 230.) as to the origin of
this expression which does not appear to have been
answered. I do not remember having seen any
explanation of the term, but I have arrived at one
for myself, and present it to your readers for what
it is worth. Nothinjr, it must be admitted, can be
more inconsistent with the usual forms of language
than the Latin of mediaeval periods ; it is often, in
fact, not Latin at all, but merely a Latin form
given to simple English or other words, and ad-
mitting of the greatest variety. Now of all ani-
mals the distinctions of breed are perhaps more
numerous in the canine race than any other. The
word " mongrel," originally applied to one of these
quadruped combinations of variety, has long been
used to signify anything in which mixture of class
existed, especially of a debasing kind, to which
such mixture generally tends. Kothing could be
more appropriate than the application of the term
to the " infima latinitas " of the Middle Ages ; and
from " mongrel " the transition to the name of the
genus from that of the degenerate species appears
to me to be very easy, though fanciful. J. B — t.
Thomas Wright of Durham. — In the PhUoso-
pkical Magazine for April, 1848, 1 gave an account
of the " Original Theory 'or new Hypothesis of the
Universe " of Thomas Wright, whose anticipations
of modern speculation on the milky way, the
central sun, and some other points, make him one
of the most remarkable astronomical thinkers of
bis day. In the biography in the OewUenunCs
Magazine for 1793, he is described as strugg^iog
for a livelihood when a young man, and no account
is given of the manner in which he obtained the
handsome competence with wluch he emerges in
1756, or thereabouts. A few days after my ac*
count was published, I was informed (by Captain
James, R.E.) that a large four-foot orrery, con-
structed by Wright for theRoyal Academy at Ports-
mouth, was still m that town ; and that by the title
of '^J. Harrises Use of the Globes** it appears that he
(Wright) kept his shop at the Orrery^ near Water
Lane, Fleet Street (No. 136.), under the title of
instrument-maker to his Majesty. In an edition
of Harris (the 8 th, 1767), which I lately met
with, the above is described as " late the shop of
Thomas Wright," &c. By the advertisements which
this work contains, Wright must have had an ex-
tensive business as a philosophical instrument-
maker. The omission in the biography is a strange
one. Possibly some farther information may fall
in the way of some of your readers.
A. De Morgan.
A Funeral Custom. — At Broadwas, Worcester-
shire, in the valley of the Teame, it is the custom
at funerals, on reaching " the Church Walk,** for
the bearers to set down the coffin, and, as they
stand around, to bow to it. Cuthbebt Bsns, B.A.
UTTLEGOTT
e^utrteif.
SIB JOHN POPHAM.
Every one knows the tradition attached to the
manor of Littlecott in Wiltshire, and the alleged
means by which Chief Justice Sir John Popham
acquired its possession. It is told by Aubrey,
Sir W^alter Scott, and many others, and is too no-
torious to be here repeated. Let me ask you or
your learned correspondents whether there exists
any refutation of a charge so seriously detrimental
to the character of any judge, and so inconsistent
with the reputation which CJhief Justice Popham
enjoyed among his cotemporaries ? See Lord
Ellesmere's notice of him in the case of the Post-
nati (^State Trials^ ii. 669.), and Sir Edward Coke*s
flattering picture of him at the end of Sir Drew
Drury*s case {Reports^ vi. 75.). Are there any
records showing that a Darell was ever in fact
arraigned on a charge of murder, and the name of
the judge who presided at the trial ? Is the date
known of the death of the last Darell who pos-
sessed the estate, or that of Sir John Popham^s
acquisition of it ? The discovery of these might
throw great light on the subject, and possibly
afford a complete contradiction.
Sir Francis Bacon, in his argument against Sir
John HoUis and others for traducing public justioei
states that —
« Popham, a great judge in his time, was complainad
of by petition to Queen Elizabeth ; it vrm eommittcd
Sept. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
219
to four privy coiincUlors, but the same was found to
be slanderous, and the parties punished in the court.**—.
State Trials, vol. ii. p. 1029.
If this petition could be discovered, and it should
turn out that the slander complained of in it had
reference to this story, the investigation which it
then underwent by the four privy councillors, and
the chief justice's enjoyment of his high office for
so many subsequent years, would go far to prove
the utter falsehood of the charge. This is a " con-
summation devoutly to be wished ^ by every one
who feels an interest in the purity of the bench,
and particularly by the present possessors of the
estate, who must be anxious for their ancestor's
fame.
Your useful publication has acted the part of
the " detective police " in the elucidation ol many
points of history less interesting than this, and I
trust you will consider the case curious enough to
justify a close examination. Edward Foss.
EABLT EDITION OF THE NEW TESTAMENT.
I should be greatly obliged if I could obtain
through " N. & Q." when, where, and by whom
an imperfect black-letter copy of the New Testa-
ment, lately come into my possession, was printed,
and also who was the translator of it.
It is bound in boards, has three thongs round
which the sheets are stitched, seems never to have
been covered with cloth, leather, or other material
like our modern books, has had clasps, and is four
inches long and two inches thick.
The chapters are divided generally into four
or five parts by means of the first letters of the
alphabet. The letters are neither placed equi-
distant, nor do they always mark a fresh para-
graph.
It is not divided into verses. There are a few
marginal references, and the chapter and letter of
the parallel passages are given.
Crosses are placed at the heads of most chapters,
and also throughout the text, without much ap-
parent regularity. It contains a few rude cuts of
the Apostles, &c. The Epistles of St. Peter and
St. John are placed before that to the Hebrews.
Letters are frequently omitted in the spelling,
and this is indicated by a dash placed over the one
preceding the omitted letter. A slanting mark (/)
is the most frequent stop used. I will transcribe
a few lines exactly as they occur, only not using
the black-letter.
" B. As some spake of the temple/ howe yt was
garnessbed with goodly stones, and iewels he sayde.
.The dayes will come/ when of these thyngis which ye
se shall not be lefte stone upon stone/ that shall not be
tbrewen doune. And they asked hym sayinge/ Master
wh$ shall these thynges be? And what sygnes wil
there be/ when suche thyoges shal come to passe."*—
St. Lttke^ cb. xxL
Land is spelt londe ; saints, iainctis : authority,
aucterite, &c. A. Boakdman.
P.S. It commences at the 19th chapter of St.
Matthew, and seems perfect to the 21st chapter
of Revelation.
Minav ^uerifrf.
Ravilliac. — I have read that a pyramid was
erected at Paris upon the murder of Henry IV.
by Ravilliac, and that the inscription represented
the Jesuits as men —
*' Maleficae superstitionis, quorum instinctu peculiaris
adolescens (Ravilliac) dirum facinus instituerat.'* -^
Thesaur. Hist, torn. iv. lib. 95, ad ann. 1598.
We are also informed that he confessed that it
was the book of Mariana the Jesuit, and the
traitorous positions maintained in it, which in-
duced him to murder the king, for which cause
the book (condemned by the parliament and the
Sorbonne) was publicly burnt in Paris. Is the
pyramid still remaining? If not, when was it
taken down or destroyed, and by whom or by
whose authority ? Clbricus (D).
Emblem on a Chimney-piece, — In the com-
mittee room of the Church Missionary Society,
Nos. 16. and 17. Upper Sackville Street, Dublin,
a curious emblem-picture is carved on the centre
of the white marble chimney-piece. An angel or
winged youth is sleeping in a recumbent posture ;
one arm embraces a sleeping lion, in the other
hand he holds a number of bell flowers. In the
opposite angle the sun shines brightly ; a lizard is
biting the heel of the sleeping youth. I shall not
offer my own conjectures in explanation of this
allegorical sculpture, unless your correspondents
fail to give a more satisfactory solution.
Ath Chi^iath.
" To know ourselves diseased,*^ SfC. —
** To know ourselves diseased, is half the cure."
Whence? C. Mansfield Inglebt.
Birmingham.
" Poetas and Arria^ — Can you inform me who is
the author of Pcetas and Arria, a Tragedy, 8to.,
1809?
In Genest's Account of the English Stagey this
play is said to be written by a gentleman of the
University of Cambridge. Can you tell me whe-
ther this is likely to be W. Smyth, the late Pro-
fessor of Modem History in that university, who
died in June, 1849 ? Gir.
Heraldic Query. — A. was killed in open re»
bellion. His son B. lived in retirement under a
fictitious name. The grandson C. retained the
apsujned Qame* and obtained new arms. Query,
S20
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 201.
Can the descendaDts of G. resume the arms of A. ?
If so, must Uiey substitute them for the arms of
C.| or bear them quarterly, and in which quarters P
Francis F.
Lord Chancellor Steele, — Is any pedigree of
William Steele, Esa, Lord Chancellor of Ireland
temp. Commonwealth, extant ; and do any of his
descendants exist ?
It is believed he was nearly related to Captain
Steel, goyernor of Beeston Castle, who suffered
death by military execution in 1643 on a charge
of cowardice. Statfold.
"-4 Tub to the Whaler —What is the origin of
this phrase ? Fimuco.
Legitimation {Scotland), — Perhaps some of
your Scotch readers ** learned in the law " would
obligingly answer the subjoined Queries, referring
to some decisions.
1. Will entail property go to a bastard, legiti'
mated before the t/nion under the great seal (by
the law of Scotland) ?
2. Will titles and dignities descend ?
3. Will armorial bearings ? M. M.
Inner Temple.
" Vaut mieuar," S(*c, — The proverb " Vautmieux
avoir affaire li Dieu qu*k ses saints ** has a Latin
origin. What is it ? M.
Shakspeare First Folio, — Is there any obtain^
aide edition of Shakspeare which follows, or fully
contains, the first folio ? M.
The Staffordshire Knot, — Can any of your
readers give the history of the StafFordfshire knot,
traced on the carriages and trucks of the North
Staffordshire Railway Company ? T. P.
Sir Thomas Elyot, — I shall be extremely
obliged by a reference to any sources of inform-
ation respecting Sir Thomas £)lyot. Knight^ living
in the time of Henry VIII., son of Sir Richard
Elyot, Knight, of Suffolk.
I shall be glad also to know whether a short
work (among^ others of his in my possession) en-
titled The Defence of good TTomen, printed in
London by Thomas Bcrthelet, 1545, is at all a
rare book f H. C. K.
** Celsior exsurgens pluviis,^* ^c, —
'* Celsior exsurgens pluviis, nimbosque oadentes,
Sub pedibus cernens, et cseca tonitrua calcans.**
Can you oblige me by stating where the above
lines are to be found P They appear to me to
form an appropriate motto for a balloon. J. P. A.
The Bargain Cup, — Can the old English cus-
tom of drinking together upon the completion of
a bargain, be traced back rarther than the Nor-
man era? Did a similar custom exist in the
earlier ages Y Danl. Dyke, in his MysterieM (Loii«
don, 1634), says :
*< The Jews being forbidden to make couenants with
the Gentiles, they also abstained firom drinking with
them ; because that was a ceremonie vsed in ttrikinf^
of couenants/*
Tliis is the only notice I can find among old
writers touching this custom, which is cert4unl7
one of considerable antiquity : though I shoula
like confirmation of Dyke*s words, befbre I cair
recognise an ancestry so remote. R. C* Wabdb^
Kidderminster.
School-Libraries, — I am desirous of ascertunin^
whether any of our public schools possess any
libraries fur the general reading of the scholars, m
which I do not include mere school-books of Latin»
Greek, &c., which, I presume, they all possess, baft
such as travels, biographies, &c.
Boys fresh from these schools appear generally
to know nothing of general reading, and fi'om the
slight information I have, I fear there is nothing
in the way of a library in any of them. If not,
it is, I should think, a very melancholy fact, and
one that deserves a little attention : bat if any of
your obliging correspondents can tell me what
public school possesses such a thing, and the fiusili-
ties allowed for reading in the school, I shall take
it as a favour. Weu) Tatloit.
Bayswater.
Queen Elizabeth and her " true ** Lookiw^gku9,
— An anecdote is current of Queen Elicabeth
having in her later days, if not during her last
illness, called for a true looking-glass, having for a
long time previously made use of one that was in
some manner purposely falsified.
What is the original source of the story ? or at
least what is the authority to which its circulation
is mainly due ? An answer from some of youv
correspondents to one or other of these questions
would greatly oblige Ysronica.
Bishop Thomas Wilson, — In Thoresby's Diary^
A. D. 1720, April 17 (vol. ii. p. 289.), is the fol-
lowing entry :
** Easter Sunday • . . afler evening pn^era
supped at cousin Wilson's with the Bishop of Man*s
son."
Was there any relationship, and what, between
this '* cousin Wilson," and the bishop*s son, Dr.
Thomas Wilson ? I should be glad of an^ in-
formation bearing on any or on all these subjects*
WiLUAM DbHTOK.
Bishop Wilson*s Worhs, — The IUt. John
Kebuq, uursley, near Winchester, being eimged
in writing the life and editing the works of Kshop
Wilson (Sodor and Man), would feel obliged by
Sept. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
221
the communication of any letters, sermons, or other
writings of the bishop, or hj reference to any in-
cidents not to be found in printed accounts of his
life.
Hobhes, Portrait of, — In the Memoirs of
T. Hobbes, it is stated that a portrait of him was
painted in 1669 for Cosmo de Medici.
I have a fine half-length portrait of him, on the
back of which is the following inscription :
*« Thomas Hobbes, »t. 81. 1669.
J-. Wick Wrilps, Londiensis, Pictor CaroU 2^'. R.
pinx*.*'
Is this painter the same as John Wycke, who
•died in 1702, but who is not, I think, known as a
portrait painter ?
Can any of your readers inform me whether a
portrait of Hobbes is now in the galleries at Flo-
rence, and, if so, by whom it was painted ? It is
possible that mine is a duplicate of the picture
which was painted for the Grand Duke.
W. C. Tkevelyan.
Wallington.
Brasenose^ Oxford, — I am anxious to learn the
origin and mcanmg of the word JBrasenose. I have
somewhere heard or read (though I cannot recall
where) that it was a Saxon word, brasen haus or
" brewing-house ;" and that the college was called
by this name, because it was built on the site of
the brewing-house of King Alfred. All that
Ingram says on the subject is this :
" This curious appellation, whicli, whatever was the
origin of it, has been perpetuated by the symbol of a
brazen nose here and at Stamford, occurs with the
tnodern orthography, but in one undivided word, so
«arly as 1278, in an Inquisition, now printed in the
Hundred Rolls, though quoted by Wood from the
manuscript record." — Sec his Memorials of Oxford.
CUTHBERT BeDE, B.A.
[Our correspondent will find the notice of King
Alfred's brew-house in the review of Ingram's A/emo-
rials in the British Critic, vol. xxiv. p. 139. The writer
•says, ** There is a spot in the centre of the city where
Alfred is said to have lived, and which may be called
the native place or river-head of three separate so-
cieties still existing, University, Oriel, and Brasenose.
Brasenose claims his palace. Oriel his church, and
University his school or academy. Of these Brasenose
College is still called, in its formal style, ' the King's
Hall,* which is the name by which Alfred himself, in
liis laws, calls his palace ; and it has its present sin-
gular name from a corruption of brasinium, or brasiri'
Ause, as having been originally located in that part of
4he royal mansion which was devoted to the then im-
portant accommodation of a brew-house." Churton,
in hit Life of Bishop Smyth, p. 277., thus accounts for
the origin of the word : — ** Brasen Nose Hall, as the
Oxford antiquary has shown, may be traced as fiir back
as the time of Henry III., about the middle of the
thirteenth century ; and early in the succeeding reign,
6th Edward I., 1278, it was known by the name of
Brasen Nose Hall, which peculiar name was undoubt-
edly owing, as the same author observes, to the cir-
cumstnnce of a nose of brass affixed to the gate. It is
presumed, however, this conspicuous appendage of the
portal was not formed of the mixed metal, which the
word now denotes, but the genuine produce of the
mine ; as is the nose, or rather face, of a lion or leo-
pard still remaining at Stamford, which also gave
name to the edifice it adorned. And hence, when
Henry VIII. debased the coin, by an alloy of coppert
it was a common remark or proverb, that * Testons
were gone to Oxford, to study in Brasen Nose.* *']
O, Downing. — Can any one point out to me a
biography of G. Downing, or at least indicate a
wonc where the dates of the birth and death of
this celebrated statesman may be found? He
was Endish ambassador in the Hague previous to
and in the year 1664, and to him Downing Street
in London owes its name. A very speedy answer
would be most welcome. — From the Navorscher.
A. T. C.
[In Pepys's Diary, vol. i. p. 2. edit. 1848, occurs the
following notice of Sir George Downing : — " Wood
has misled us in stating that Sir George Downing was
a son of Dr. Calibut Downing, the rector of Hackney.
He was beyond doubt the son of Emmanuel Downing,
a London merchant, who went to New England. It
is not improbable that Emmanuel was a near kinsman
of Calibut ; how related has not yet been discovered.
Governor Hutchinson, in his History of MassachnaettSf
gives the true account of Downing*8 affiliation, which
has been farther confirmed by Mr. Savage, of Boston,
from the public records of New England. Wood calls
Downing a sider with all times and changes ; skilled
in the common cant, and a preacher occasionally. He
was sent by Cromwell to Holland, as resident there.
About the Restoration, he espoused the King's cause,
and was knighted and elected M. P. for Morpeth, in
1661. Afterwards, becoming Secretary to the Trea-
sury and Commissioner of the Customs, he was in 1663
created a Baronet of East Hatley, in Cambridgeshire,
and was again sent ambassador to Holland. His
grandson of the same name, who died in 1749, was the
founder of Downing College, Cambridge. The title
became extinct in 1 764, upon the decease of Sir John
Gerrard Downing, the last heir male of the family.*'
According to Hutchinson, Sir George died in 1684.]
Unhid. — Can any of your readers inform me as
to the derivation of this word, or give any instance
of its recent use ? I have frequently heard it in
my childhood Tthe early part of the present cen-
tury) among the rural population of Oxon and
Berks. It was generally applied to circumstances
of a melancholy or distressing character, but some*
times used to express a peculiar state of feeling,
being apparently intended to convey nearly the
same meaning as the ennui of the French. I re*
823
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 201.
collect an alluaion to tht plirase someirhei-e in
Misa Mitford's writ'iDgs, who speaks of it as pecu-
liar to Berks; but as I was then ignamnt of
Captain Cuttle's maxim, I did not " make a note
of It," so that I am unable to laj mj hand on the
panage. G. T.
Reading.
[Mr. Sternberg alio Tound thii word in North-
amptonshire : for in his Tnluable worlt on The Dialtct
and Folk Lort of that county occurs the following
dorivation of it : — '• UNitEn, Huhkid, i. lonely, dull,
miiersble. ' I was «o ta\itd when ye war away,' ' A
tmhtd house,' &c. Mr. Bosifarlh jfivci, as the dcrir.
ative, the A.-S. imcyd, soliUry, without speech. In
Batchelor's Lut of Brdfordikirt tFordt, it is spelt
Pilgrim' i Progreii. — The common editions con-
tain & third part, setting forth the life of Tender-
coMcience : this ihird part Is thought not to have
been written by Bunjan, and is omitted from
some, at least, of the modern editions. Con any of
jour readers explain by whom this addition was
made, and all about it ? The subject of the Fil-
friitCs Progress generally — the stories of a similar
ind which are said to have preceded — especially
in Catholic times — the history of its editions and
annotations, would give some ioteresiiog columns.
[Mr. George OfTur. in his Introduction lo The Fil-
jrrtm'* Pmffrrii, published by the Hanserd Kno)lyi
Society in 1847, notices the third pnit as a forgery ; —
"In a very few years afler Bunyan's death, this third
part made its appearance ; and although the title does
not directly smy that it was written by Bunyan, yet it
was at first generally received as such. In 1695, it
reached a secDnd edition ; and a sixth in 1 705. In
1708, it was denounced in the title to the ninth edition
of the second part, by H ' Note, Iht third pari, lufgatcd
tobt J. Bitnj/an'i, i« an impoilurt.' The author of this
forgery is as yet unknown." Mr. OSbr lias also de-
TOled fifty pagos of his Jntrrwiuction to the conjec-
tured prololjpes of liunjan's Pili/rim's Pregrtii. He
■ays, " Every assertion or suggestion that came lo my
knowledge has been investigated, and the works re-
ferred (0 have hecn analysed. And beyond this, every
■llcfpicical work that could be found, previous to the
eighteenth eenluij, has been eiamined in all the Euro-
pean languages, and tlie result Is a perfect demonstra-
tion of the complete originality of Bunyau."]
John Frewen. — What is known of this divine ?
He was minister at Northiam in Sussex in 1611 ;
and published, the following year, a small volume
of SermoTu, bearing reference to some quarrel
between himself and parishioners. Are> these
Sermon* rare ? Anv particulars would be accept-
»ble. R. C. Wabdb.
Kidderminster.
■ the
" the puritanical Rector of
Northiam," a* Wood calls him, and indeed hb name
carries a symbol of his Rither'a sanctity. Wood has
given a few particulars of John, who, he aays, ■■ wn
I a learned divine, and a frequent preaclier of the thM,
I and wrote, 1. Fruitful Imtnietiont and NtcetKny Doc
1 triat, to edify in the Fear of God, ^., 1587. 4. fVatt-
/ul Inltntdilmi for the General Camtt of KtformaHaH,
againit tie Standeri of lie Pope arid litagtu, ffe„ 1589.
3. Certain Choice Grmndt and Frlneipltt ^ our
CkTutian Religion, with their ueetal Et/mitmu, bf
Way of Qutttiont and Anjaer; ^c, 1621, and other
things. lie died in 1627 (about the latlar end], and
was buried in Northiam Church, leaving than befaind
these sons, viz. Accepted, Thankful, Stephen, JoMpb,
Benjamin, Thomas, Samuel, Ji^n, &c whi^ John
seema to have succeeded hit fiillicr in tba RaMotj of
Northiam ; hut whether the said fatber waa edoMt^ at
Oifovd, I cannot tell."]
Histories of Literature. — Can any correap<ul-
dent inform me of the best, or one or two prin-
cipal Histories of Literature, published in tite
English language, with the names of the author
and publisher ; as well as, if possible, the uie and
price P Jlhonastsbibhus.
[Our correspondent cannot do better than procure
Hallam'a Introdattion lo the Llteraiuri of Emrope in lie
Fifteeith, Sixteenth, and Secenteenth Centnriei, S vali.
8vo. (.161.). He may also consult with advantage
Dr. Maitland's Dark'Agti, which illustratea the atatb
of reli^nn and literature in from the ninth to lb*
twelfth centuries, 8yo., 12i. ; and Berringlon's LUnwy
Hletory of the Middle Age,, .It. 6cf.]
" Mrs. Shaw's Tamhttoae." — In Leigh's ObserV'
ations (London, 1660) are several quoUtiona from
a work entitled Mrs. Shaw's Tomislonr. Where
may a copy of this be seen ? R. C. Waedb,
[Mrs. Dorothy Shan
Remaim, 1 658, may be seen In the Britiah Mmnim,
FrcBs-mark, HIS. I 41.]
HepXiti,
(ToLviii., p.I82.)
A correspondent who seema to delight in albl-
lants, signing himself S, Z. Z. S., invites me to
" preseree, in your columns, the letter of Calvin to
Crnnmer, of which Dean Jenkyns has o:^ given
extracts," as noticed by mo in your ToTtIL,
p. 621.
I would not shrink from the trouble «f tran-
scribinp; the whole letter, if a complete g<^>7 were
only to be found in the short-lived columns of ft
newspaper, as inserted in the Record at May Id,
1643, by Merle d'Aubigne; but the Dean faM
E'ven a reference to the volume in which both the
Iters he cites are preserved and accessible, vi«.
Cahiit Epistles, pp. 1S4, 135., Gener. 1616.
Sept. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
223
S. Z. Z. S. justly observes that there are two
points to be distinguished: £rst, Cranmer's wish
that Calvin shoiJd assist in a general union of the
churches protesting against Romish errors; se-
cond, Calvin's offer to assist in settling the Church
of England. He adds, " The latter was declined ;
and the reason is demonstrated in Archbishop
Laurence's Bampton Lectures''' I neither possess
those lectures, nor the volume of Calvin's epistles ;
but all I have seen of the correspondence between
him and Cranmer, in the Parker Society's editions
of Cranmer, and of original letters between 1537-
58, and in Jenkyns' Remains of Cranmer^ indis-
poses me to believe that Calvin made any " offer
to assist in settling the Church of England." It
appears from Dean Jenkyns' note, vol. i. p. 346.,
that Archbishop Laurence made a mistake in the
order of the correspondence, calculated to mislead
himself; and as to Heylyn's assertion, Eccles,
Restaur., p. 65., that Calvin made such an offer,
and "that the Archbishop (Cranmer) knew the
man and refused his offer,' the Dean says :
" He gives no authority for the latter part of his
statement, and it can hardly be reconciled with Cran-
mer*s letter to Calvin of March 20, 1552."
The contemptuous expression, he " knew the man
and refused his offer,' is, in fact, utterly irrecon-
cilable with Cranmer's language in all his three
letters to Melancthon, to Bullinger, and to Calvin
(Nos. 296, 297, 298. of Parker Society's edition of
Cranmer's Remains, and Nos. 283, 284, 285. of
Jenkyns' edition), where he tells each of the other
two that he had written to Calvin from his de-
sire—
** Ut in Anglia, aut alibi, doctissimorum et opti'
morum virorum synodus convocaretar, in qua de puritate
ecclesiastical doctrinas, et prsecipue de consensu con-
troversiae sacramentariae tractaretur.**
Or, as he said to Calvin himself:
*' Ut doctl et pii viri, qui alios antecellunt eruditione
et judicio, convenirent."
Your correspondent seems to have used the
word " demonstrated " rather in a surgical than in
its mathematical sense.
Having taken up my pen to supply you with an
^.nswer to this historical inquiry, I may as well
notice some other articles in your No. 199. For
•example, in p. 167., L. need not have referred your
readers to Halliwell's Researches in Archaic Lan-
guage for an explanation of Bacon's word " bul-
laces." The word may be seen in Johnson's
Dictionary, with the citation from Bacon, and in-
stead of vaguely calling it " a small black and
tartish plum," your botanical readers know it as
the Prunus insititia.
Again, p. 173., J. M. may like to know farther,
that the Duke of Wellington's clerical brother was
entered on the boards of St. John's College, Cam-
bridge, as Wesley, where the spelling must hare
been dictated either by himself, or by the person
authorised to desire his admission. It continued
to be spelt Wesley in the Cambridge annual ca-
lendars as late as 1808, but was altered in that of
1809 to Wellesley. The alteration was probably
made by the desire of the family, and without
communicating such desire to the registrary of the
university. For it appears in the edition of
Graduati Cantahrigienses, printed in 1823, as
follows :
"Wesley, Gerard Valerian, Coll. Job. A.M. 1792-
Comitis de Mornington, Fil. nat. 4*°».*'
In p. 173., C. M. Inglebt may like to know, a&
a clue to the origin of his apussee and, that I wte
taught at school, sixty years ago, to call & And
per se, whilst some would call it And''per-8e''€ind,
In the same page, the inquirer B. H. C. re-
specting the word mammon, may like to know tbst
the history of that word has been given at some
length in p. 1. to p. 68. of the Parker Society's^
edition of Tyndale's Parable of the wicked Mam'-
mon, where I have stated that it occurs in a form
identical with the English in the Chaldee Targum
of Onkelos on £xod. xviii. 21., and in that of
Jonathan on Judges, v. 9., as equivalent to riches f
and that in the Syriac translation it occurs in a
form identical with Mafjuupa, in Fxod. xxi. 30., fifr
a rendering for IM, the price of satisfactioii..
In B. H. C.'s citation from Barnes, even seems a
mbprint for ever. The Jews did not again fall
into actual idolatry after the Babylonish captivity ;
but we are told that in the sight of God covetous-
ness is idolatry. Hemby Walter^
Hasilbury Bryan.
BABNACLES.
(Vol. viii., p. 124.)
A Querist quoting from Porta's Natural Magic
the vulgar error that " not only in Scotland, but
in the river Thames, there is a kind of shell-fish
which get out of their shells and grow to be duckSy
or such like birds," asks, what could give rise ta
such an absurd belief ? Your correspondent
quotes from the English translation of the Magia
Naturalis, A. d. 1658; but the tradition is very
ancient. Porta the author having died in 1515 a.b.
You will find an allusion in Hmibras to those —
" Who from the most refin*d of saints.
As naturally grow miscreants,
As barnacles turn Solan d geese,
In th' islands of the Orcades."
The story has its origin in the peculiar formation
of the little mollusc which inhabits the multivalve
sbdl, the Pentalasmis anatifera, which by a fieslij
peduncle attaches itself by one end to the bottoms
of ships or floating timber, whilst from the other
£24
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 201.
there protmdes a buncli of curling and fringe-like
cirrbi, by the agitation of which it attracts and
collects Its food. These cirrbi so much resemble
feathers, as to have suggested the leading idea of
a bird's tail : and hence the construction of the
remunder of the fable, which is thus given with
grave minuteness in The Herbal, or General HiS'
torie of Plants, gathered by John Gerarde, Master
in Chirurgerie : London, 1597 :
*'What our eyes have seen, and our hands have
touched, we shall declare. There is a small island in
lADcashire called the Pile of Foulders, wherein are
found the broken pieces of old and bruised ships, some
'whereof have been cast thither by shipwreck ; and also
«tbe trunks or* bodies, with the branches of old and
^rotten trees, cast up there likewise, whereon is found
a certain spume or froth, that in time breedeth unto
.certain shells, in shape like those of a mussel, but
sharper pointed, and of a whitish colour ; wherein is
contained a thing in form like a lace of silk finely
woven as it were together, of a whitish colour ; one
end whereof is fastened unto the inside of the shell,
even as the fish of oysters and mussels are ; the other
end is made &st unto the belly of a rude mass or lump,
-which in time cometh to the shape and form of a bird.
"When it is perfectly formed, the shell gapeth open,
-and the first thing that appeareth is the foresaid lace
or string ; next come the legs of the bird hanging out,
and as it groweth greater, it openeth the shell by
degrees, till at length it is all come forth, and hangcth
only by the bill. In short space after it cometh to full
maturity, and falleth into the sea, where it gathereth
feathers, and groweth to a fowl, bigger than a mallard,
and lesser than a goose ; having black legs, and a bill
or beak, and feathers black and white, spotted in such
manner as our magpie, called in some places a Pie-
Annet, which the people of Lancashire call by no other
name than a tree-goose ; which place aforesaid, and all
those parts adjacent, do so much abound therewith,
that one of the best may be bought for threepence.
For the truth hereof, if any doubt, may it please them
to repair unto me, and I shall satisfy them by the testi-
mony of credible witnesses." — Page 1391.
Gerarde, who is doubtless Butler*s authority,
says elsewhere, that " in the north parts of Scot-
land, and the islands called Orcades," there are
certain trees whereon these tree-geese and barna-
cles abound.
The conversion of the fish into a bird, however
&bulous, would be scarcely more astonishing than
the metamorphosis which it actually undergoes —
the young of the little animal having no feature to
identify it with its final development. In its early
stage (L quote from Carpenter s Physiology, vol. i.
p. 52.) it has a form not unlike that of the crab,
** possessing eyes and powers of free motion ; but
afterwards, becoming fixed to one spot for the re-
mainder of its life, it loses its eyes and forms a
shell, which, though composed of various pieces,
Has nothing in common with the jointed snell of
the crab."
Though Porta wrote at Naples, the story bas
reference to Scotland; and the tradition is evi-
dently northern, and local. As to Spbrieub's
Query, What could give rise to so absurd a story?
it doubtless took its origin in the similarity of the
tentacles of the fish to feathers of a bird. Bat I
would add the farther Query, whether the ready
acceptance and general credence given to so ob-
vious Bf fable, may not have been derived from
giving too literal a construction to the text o£ the
passage in the first chapter of Genesis :
" And God said, Let the waierthrmg forth abwadanAy
the moving creature that hath life, and the fowl that
may fly in the open firmament of heaven ? **
J. Embksoh Tenneht.
Drayton (1613) in his Poly^olbiotij iii., in con-
nexion with the river Dee, speaks of —
" Th* anatomised fish, and fowls from planchers sprung."
to which a note is appended in Southey*s edition,
p. 609., that such fowls were ** barnacles^ a bird
breeding upon old ships/* In the Enteriamng
Library, " Habits of Birds," pp. 363 — 379., the
whole story of this extraordinary instance of igno-
rance in natural history is amply developed. The
barnacle shells which I once saw in a sea-port,
attached to a vessel just arrived from the Medi-
terranean, had the brilliant appearance, at a dis-
tance, of flowers in bloom*; the foot of the
Lepas anatifera (Linnaeus) appearing to me like
the stalk of a plant growing from the ship's side :
the shell had the semblance of a calyx, and the
flower consisted of the fingers (Jtentacidd) of the
shell-fish, ^' of which twelve project in an elegant
curve, and are used by it for making prev of small
fish.*' The very ancient error was to mistake the
foot of the shell-fish for the neck of a goose, the
shell for its head, and the tentacula for a tafl of
feathers. As to the body, non est inventus. The
Barnacle Goose is a well-known bird : and these
shell-fish, bearing, as seen out of the water, re-
semblance to the goose's neck, were ignorantly,
and without investigation, confounded with geese
themselves, an error into which Albertus Magnus
(d. 1280) did not fall, and in which Pope Pius IL
proved himself infallible. Nevertheless, in France,
the Barnacle Goose may be eaten on fast-days by
virtue of this old belief in its marine origin.
T. J. BucKTOir.
DIAL INSCRIPTIONS.
(Vol. iv., p. 507. ; Vol. v., p. 155., &c.)
In the churchyard of Areley-Kiogs, "Worces-
tershire (where is the singular memorial to Sir
Harry Coningsby, which I mentioned at Vol. vi ,
* See Penny CycL, art. Cirripida, vii. 206., revers-
ing the woodcut.
Sept. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
225
n
o
s
CO
n
p. 406.), is a curious dial, the pillar supporting
which has its four sides carved with figures of
Time and Death, &c., and the following inscrip-
tions.
On the south side, where is the figure of
Time:
** Aspice—- ut aspicias.'*
" Time's glass and scythe
Thy life and death declare,
Spend well thy time, and
For thy end prepare."
" O man, now or never ;
While there is time, turn unto the Lord,
And put not off from day to day.'*
On the north side, where is the figure of Death
standing upon a dead body, with his dart, hour-
glass, and spade :
" Tliree things there be in very deede.
Which make my heart in grief to bleede :
The first doth vex my very heart.
In that from hence I must departe ;
The second grieves me now and then.
That I must die, but know not when ;
The third with tears bedews my face,
That I must die, nor know the place.
I. W.
fecit. Anno Dmi.
1687."
** Behold my killing dart and delving spade ;
Prepare for death before thy grave be made;
for
After death there's no hope."
** If a man die he shall live again.
All the days of my appointed time
Will I wait till my days come." — Job xiv. 14.
** The death of saints is precious.
And miserable is the death of sinners."
The east side of the pillar has the following :
** Si vis ingredi in vitam,
Serva mandata."
'* Judgments are prepared for sinners." — Prov. xiv. 9.
And on the west :
" Sol non occidat
Super iracundiam vestram."
" Whatsoever ye would that men
Should do unto you.
Do ye even so unto them."
I subjoin a few other dial inscriptions, copied
from churches in Worcestershire.
Kidderminster (parish church) :
" None but a villain will deface me.'*
Himbleton (over the porch) :
« Via Vitse."
Bromsgrove :
** We shall — ." (i.e. we shall die-all).
Shrawley :
" Ab hoc momento pendet seternitas."
CUTHBERT BeDE, B.A.
THE
" SALTPETER MAKER."
(Vol. vii., pp. 377. 433. 460. 530.)
The following humble petition will give an idea
of the arbitrary power exercised by the " Salt-
peter maker" in the days of Good Queen Bess ;
and of the useful monopoly that functionary con-
trived to make of his employment, in defiance of
county government :
" Righte honorable, our humble dewties to yo*^ good
Lordshippe premised, maye it please the same to be
advertised, that at the Quarter sessions holden at New-
ark e within this countie of Nottingham, There was a
generall Complaynte made unto us by the Whole
Countrie, that one John Ffoxe, saltpeter maker, bad
charged the Whole Countrie by his precepts for the
Caryinge of Cole from Selsonn, in the Countie of Not-
tingham, unto the towne of Newarke w^^in the same
countie ; beinge sixteene myles distante] for the make-
inge of saltpeter, some townes w*^ five Cariages and
some w*'* lesse, or els to geve him foure shillinges for
everie Loade, whereof he hath Recyved a great parte.
■Uppon w«>^ Complaynte we called the same Ffoxe be-
fore some of us at Newarke at the Sessions, there to
answere the premisses, and also to make us a propclon
what Loades of Coales would serve to make a thowsand
of saltpeter, To thend we might have sett some order for
the preparing of the same : But the said Ffoxe will not
sett downe anie rate what would serve for the make-
inge of a Thowsande. Therefore we have thoughte
good to advertise your good Lordshippe of the pre-
misses, and have appoynted the clarke of the peace of
this countie of Nottingham to attend yo* good Lord-
shippe to know yo' Lordshippes pleasure about the
same, who can further informe yo' good Lordshippe of
the particularities thereof, if it shall please yo' good
Lordshippe to geve him hearinge. And so most bumblie
take our Leaves, Newarke, the viij"* of Octob', 1589.
" Your Lpp most humblie to Comaunde,
Ro. Markham, William Sutton,
Ra(7f Barton, 1589, Nihs Roos,
Brian Lassels, John Thornhaoh.*'
The document is addressed on the back ''To
the Right Honorable our verie good Lord the
Lord Burghley, Lord Heighe Threasoro' of Eng-
land, yeve theis ;*' and is numbered LXL 72. among
the Lansdowne MSS., B. M.
The proposal quoted below has no date at-
tached, but prob£U)ly belongs to the former part
of the seyenteenth century :
** The Service.
"1. To make 500 Tunne of refined Saltpetre within
his Ma^^** dominions yearely, and continually, and
cheaper.
2. Without digging of hou8e$ or charging of eartt, or
any other charge to the subject whatsoever.
226
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 201.
3. To performe the whole service at our owne cost.
4. Not to hinder any man in his owne way of makeing
saltpetre, nor importation from forreine parts.'*
The following memorandum is underwritten :
** Mr. Speaker hath our Bill ; Be pleased to-morrow
to call for it."
The original draft of the above disinterested
offer may be seen Harl. CLVIII. fol. 272.
FURVUS.
St. James's.
TSAB.
(Vol. viii., p. 150.)
The difficulty in investigating the origin of this
word is that the letter c, " the most wonderful of
all letters," says Eichhoff (Vergleichung der Spra'
cheu^ p. 55.), sounds like h before the vowels a, o,
t£, but before c, i, in French, Spanish, Portuguese,
and Dutch, as «, in Italian as tsh^ in German as
to. It is {jways ts in Polish and Bohemian. In
Bussian it is represented by a special letter ix,
t9i; but in Celtic it is always h. Conformably
with this principle, the Russians, like the Germans,
Poles, and Bohemians, pronounce the Latin c as
ts. So Cicero in these languages is pronounced
Tsitsero^ very differently from the Greeks, "wh5
called him Kikero. The letter tsi is a supple-
mentarjr one in Russian, having no corresponding
letter m the Greek alphabet, from which the
Russian was formed in the ninth century by St.
Cyril. The word to be sought then amongst
cognate languages as the counterpart of tsar (or
as the Germans write it czar) is car, as pronounced
in English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and
Dutch. The most probable etymological con-
nexion that I can discover is with the Sanscrit
J car, to move, to advance ; the root of the
Greek rA^Pov, in English car, Latin curro, French
caiirs. So Sanscrit caras, carat, movable, nimble ;
Greek XP*^^f Latin currens. And Sanscrit cdras,
motion, Greek x^V^Sj Latin curnts, cursus, French
char, English car, cart, &c. The early Russians
were doubtless wanderers, an off-shoot of the
people known to the Greeks as Scythians, and to
the Hebrews and Arabians as Gog and Magog,
who travelled in cars, occupying first one terri-
tory with their flocks, but not cultivating the land,
then leaving it to nature and taking up another
resting-place. It is certain that the Russians
have many Asiatic words in their vocabulary,
which must necessarily have occurred from their
being for more than two centuries sometimes
under Tatar, and sometimes under Mongol do-
mination ; and the origin of this word tsar or car
may have to be sought on the plateaus of North-
east Asia. In the Shemitic tongues (Arabic, He-
brew, Persian, &c.) no connexion of sound or
meaning, so probable as the above Indo*£aropean
one, is to be found. The popular deriirati<»iB of
Nabupolassar, Nebuchadnezzar, Belshazzar, -&&,
are not to be trusted. It is remarkable, howerer,
that these names are significant in Russian. (See
" N. & Q.," Vol. vii., pp. 432, 433, note.) The
cuneatic inscriptions may yet throw l^bt on these
Assyrian names. In Russian the Kingdom is
Tsarstvo, the king Tsar, his queen Tscarina, his
son is Tsarevitch, and his daughter Tsarevna,
The word is probably pure Russian or Slavic.
The Russian tsar used about two hundred years
ago to be styled duke by foreign courts, but he
has advanced in the nomenclature of royalty to be
an emperor. The Russians use the word impe^
ratore for emperor, Kesar for Caesar, and 9amO'
dershetse for sovereign. T. J. Buckton.
Birmingham.
In Voltaire's History of the Russian Empire^ it
is stated that the title of Czar may possibly be
derived from the Tzars or Tchars oi the kingdom
of Casan. When John, or Ivan Basilides, Grand
Prince of Russia, had completed the redaction of
this kingdom, he assumed this title, and it has
since continued to his successors. Before the
reign of John Basilides, the sovereigns of Rossfa
bore the name of Velike Knez, that is, great prince,
great lord, great chief, which in Christian coun-
tries was at^rwards rendered by that of great
duke. The Czar Michael Federovitz, on occasion
of the Holstein embassy, assumed the titles of
Great Knez and Great Lord, Conservator of all
the Russias, Prince of Wolodimir, Moscow, No-
vogorod, &c., Tzar of Casan, Tzar of Astracan,
Tzar of Siberia. The name of Tzar was there-
fore the title of those Oriental princes, and there-
fore it is more probable for it to have been de-
rived from the TsTias of Persia than from the
Roman Caesars, whose name very likely never
reached the ears of the Siberian Tzars on the
banks of the Obj. In another part of Voltaire's
History, when giving an account of the celebrated
battle of Narva, where Charles XII., with nine
thousand men and ten pieces of cannon, defeated
" the Russian army with eighty thousand fighting
men, supported by one hundred and forty-five
pieces of cannon," he says, " Among the captives
was the son of a King of Georgia, whom Charles
sent to Stockholm; his name was MUtdesky
Czarowitz, or Czar's Son, which is farther proof
that the title of Czar or Tzar was not originally
derived from the Roman Caesars." To the above
slightly abbreviated description may not be unin-
terestingly added the language of Voltaire, which
immediately follows the first reference :
" No title, how great soever, is of any signification,
unless they who bear it are great and powerful of
themselves. The word emperor, which denoted only
the general of an army, beiiame the title of the sove-
Sept. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
227
Migns of Rome ; and it is now conferred on the su-
preme governor of all the Russias."
^ A Hbrmit at Hampstbad.
I beg to inform J. S. A. that the right word is
Tsar, and that it is the Russian word answering
to our king or lord, the Latin Rex, the Persian
S?tah, &c. There may be terms in other lan-
guages that have an affinity with it, but I believe
we should seek in vain for a derivation. T. K.
^'liAND OF GBEEN GINGEB.*'
' (Vol. viii., p. 160.)
I wish that R. W. Elliot of Clifton, whom I
recognise as a former inhabitant of Hull, had given
the authority on which he states, that " It is so
called from the sale of ginger having been chiefly
carried on there in early times." The name of
this street has much puzzled the local antiqua-
ries ; and having been for several years engaged
on a work relative to the derivations, &c., of the
names of the streets of Hull, I have spared no
pains to ascertain the history and derivation of
the singular name of this street.
I offer then a conjecture as to its derivation as
follows : — The ground on which this street stands
was originally the property of De la Pole, Duke
of Suffolk, on which he had built his stately manor-
house. On the attainder of the family it was
seized by the king ; and Henry VIH. several times
held his court here, on one of his visits having
presented his sword to the corporation. It was
then, 1538, called Old Beverley Street, as seen in
the survey made of the estates of Sir William
Sydney, Kt. In a romance called Piraute el
Blanco, it is stated : " The morning collation at
the English Court was green ginger with good
Malmsey, which was their custom, because of the
coldness of the land." And in the Foedera, vii.
233., it is stated that, among other things, the
cargo of a Genoese ship, which was driven ashore
at Dunster, in Somersetshire, in 1380, consisted of
^reen ginger (ginger cured with lemon-juice). In
Hollar's Map of Hull, 1640, the street is there laid
out as built upon, but without any name attached
to it. No other plans of Hull are at present
known to exist from the time of Hollar, 1640, to
Gent, 1735. In Gent's plan of Hull, it is there
called " The Land of Green Ginger ;" so that pro-
bably, between the years 1640 and 1735, it re-
ceived its peculiar name.
I therefore conjecture that, as Henry VIII.
kept his Court here with his usual regal magni-
ficence, green ginger would be one of the luxu-
ries of his table ; that this portion of his royal
f property, being laid out as a garden, was pecu-
iarly suitable for the growth of ginger — the same
as Pontefract was for the growth of the liquorice
plant; and that, upon the property being built
u|>on, the remembrance of this spot being so
suitable for the growth of ginger for the Court,
would eventually give the peculiar name, in the
same way that the adjoining street of Bowl- Alley-
Lane received its title from the bowling-green
near to it. John Richabdsok.
13. Savile Street, Hull.
This has long been a puzzle to the Hull anti-
(juaries. I have often inquired of old persons
likely to know the origin of such names of places
at that sea-port as " The Land of Green Ginger,"
" Pig Alley," " Mucky-south-end," and " Rotten
Herring Staith ;" and I have come to the conclu-
sion, that "The Land of Green Ginger" was a
very dirty place where horses were kept : a mews,
in short, which none of the Muses, not even ?rith
Homer as an exponent, could exalt (""Eirta
irrtpofVTa tv hJdavdronTi btoiai ") into the regions of
poesy.
Ginger has been cultivated in this country as a
stove exotic for about two hundred and fifty years.
In one of the histories of Hull, ginger is supposed
to have grown in this street, where, to a recent
period, the stables of the George Inn, and those of
a person named Foster opposite, occupied the
principal portion of the short lane called " Land
of Green Ginger." It is hardly possible that the
true zingiber can have grown here, even in the
manure heaps ; but a plant of the same order
(ZingiberacetB) may have been mistaken for it.
Some of the old women or marine school-boys of
the Trinity House, in the adjoining lane named from
that guild, or some druggist, may have dropped,
either accidentally or experimentally, a root^ if
not of the ginger, yet of some kindred plant.
The magnificent Fuchsia was first noticed in the
possession of a seaman's wife b^ Fuchs in 1501,
a century prior to the introduction of the ginger
plant into England. T. J. Buckton.
Birmingham.
PHOTOGRAPHIC COBRSSPONDENCE.
Stereoscopic Angles. — The discussion in " N,
& Q." relative to the best angle for stereoscopic
pictures has gone far towards a satisfactory con-
clusion : there are, however, still a few points which
may be beneficially considered.
In the first place, the kind of stereoscope to be
used must tend to modify the mental impression ;
and secondly, the amount of reduction from the
size of the original has a considerable influence
on the final result.
If in viewing a stereoscopic pair of photographs,
they are placed at the same distance from the eyes
as the length of the focus of the lens used in pro^
ducing them, then without doubt the distance be-
tween the eyes, viz. about two and a quarter
228
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 201.
inches, is the best difference between the two
points of view to produce a perfectly natural re-
sult ; and if the points of operation be more distant
from one another, as I have before intimated, an
effect is produced similar to what would be the
xjase if the pictures were taken from a model of the
•object instead of the object itself.
When it is intended that the pictures taken are
to be viewed by an instrument that requires their
-distance from the eyes to be less than the focal
length of the lens used in their formation, what is
the result? Why, that they subtend an angle
larger than in nature, and are consequently appa-
rently increased in bulk ; and the obvious remedy
is to increase the angle between the points of
generation in the exact ratio as that by which the
visual distance is to be lessened. There is one
other consideration to which I would advert, viz.
that as we judge of distance, &c. mainly by the
degree of convergence of the optic axes of our two
eyes, it cannot be so good to arrange the camera
with its two positions quite parallel, especially for
objects at a short or medium distance, as to let
its centre radiate from the principal object to be
delineated ; and to accomplish this desideratum in
the readiest way (for portraits especially), the in-
genious contrivance of Mr. Latimer Clark, de-
scribed in the Journal of the Photographic Society,
appears to me the best adapted. It consists of a
modification of the old parallel ruler arrangement
on which the camera is placed; but one of the
sides has an adjustment, so that within certain
limits any degree of convergence is attainable.
Now in the case of the pictures alluded to by Mr.
H. Wu-KiNsoN in Vol. viii., p. 181., it is probable
they were taken by a camera placed in two po-
sitions parallel to one another, and it is quite clear
that only a. portion of the two pictures could have
been really stereoscopic. It is perfectly true that
two indifferent negatives will often combine and
form one good stereoscopic positive, but this is in
conse<juence of one possessing that in which the
other IS deficient ; and at any rate two good pictures
will have a better effect : consequently, it is better
that the two views should contain exactly the same
range of vision. Geo. Shadbolt.
Protonitrate of Irofi, — "Being in the habit of
using protonitrate of iron for developing collodion
pictures, the following method of preparing that
solution suggested itself to me, which appears to
possess great advantages : —
Water - - - - 1 oz.
Protosulphate of iron - - 14 grs.
Nitrate of potash - - - 10 grs.
Acetic acid - - - - ^ drm.
Nitric acid - - - - 2 drops.
In this mixture nitrate of potash is employed to
convert the sulphate of iron into nitrate in place
of nitrate of baryta in Dr. Diamond*8 formula, or
nitrate of lead as recommended by Mr. Sissou^
the advantage being that no filtering is required,
as the sulphate of potash (produced bj tbe doubFe
decomposition) is soluble in water, and do^ not
interfere with the developing qiudities of the
solution.
" The above gives the bright deposit of silver
so much admired in Dr. Diamond*s pictures, and
will be found to answer equally well either for
positives or negatives. If the nitric acid be
omitted, we obtain the effects of protonitrate of
iron prepared in the usual way. John Spillbb.*'
(From the Photographic Journal.)
Photographs in natural Colours. — As *' N. & Q."
numbers among its correspondents many residents
in the United States, I hope you will permit me
to inquire through its columns whether there is
really any foundation for the vei^ startling an-
nouncement, in Professor Hunt's Photography^ of
Mr. Hill of New York having *' obtained more
than fifty pictures from nature in all the beauty
of native coloration," or whether the statement
is, as I conclude Professor Hunt is inclined to
believe, one of those hoaxes in which many of our
transatlantic friends take so much delight.
Mattbb-op-Fact.
Photographs hy artificial Lights. — Maj I ask
for references to any manuals of photography, or
papers in scientific journals, in which are recorded
any experiments that have been made with the
view of obtaining photographs by means of arti-
ficial lights ? This is, I have no doubt, a subject
of interest to many who, like myself, are busily
occupied during the day, and have only theur
evenings for scientific pursuits : while it is obvious,
that if such a process can be successfully prac-
tised, there are many objects — such 2A , prints^
coins, seals, objects of natural history and anttquHy —
which might well be copied by it, even thoi^h
artificial light should prove far slower in its action
than solar light. A Clbbk.
Vandyke in America (Vol. viii., p. 182.). — I
would take the liberty of asking Ma. Bai^ch of
Philadelphia whom he means by Col. Hill and
Col. Byrd, *^ worthies famous in English history,
and whose portraits by Vandyke are now on the
James River ? " I know of no Col. Hill or Byrd
whom Vandyke could possibly have painted. I
should also like to know what proof there is that
the pictures, whomsoever they represent, are by
Vandyke. Mr. Balch says that he favours us
with this information "in answer to the query ^*
(Vol. vii., p. 38.) ; but I beg leave to observe that
it is by no means '' in answer to the query,** which
was about an engraved portrait and not picture^ and
Sept. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
229
liis thus bringing in the Vandykes a propos de
bottes makes me a little curious about their au-
thenticity. C.
Title wanted — Choirochorographia '(Vol. viii.,
p. 151.). — The full title of the book inquired
afler is as follows :
*' Xoipox<v/>o7pa^ia : sive, Iloglandias Descriptlo. —
Plaudite Porcelli Porcorum pigra Propago ( Eleg. Poet.) :
Londini, Anno Domini 1709. Pretium 2'*,*' 8vo.
The printer, as appears from the advertisement
at the end of the volume, was Henry Hills. The
middle of the title-page is occupied by a coarsely
executed woodcut, representing a boar with a
barbed instrument in his snout, and a similar in-
strument on a larger scale under the head, sur-
mounted with some rude characters, which I read
"turx trvyk bevis o hamtvn."
The dedication is headed, " Augusto admodum &
undiquaq; Spectabili Heroi Dommi H S
Maredydius Caduganus Pymlymmonensis, S.P.D."
The entire work appears to be written in ridicule
of Hampshire, and to be intended as a retaliation
for a work written by Edward Holdsworth, of
Magd. Coll. Oxford, entitled Miiscipida, site Kap.-
€po'pvo-paxia, published by the same printer in
the same year, and translated by Dr. Hoadly in
the fifth volume of Dodsley's Miscellany, p. 277.,
edit. 1782.
Query, Who was the author ? and had Holds-
worth any farther connexion with Hampshire
than that of having been educated at Winchester
School ? J. F. M.
Second Growth of Grass (Vol. viii., p. 102.). —
E.. W. F. of Bath inquires for other names than
"fog," &c. In Sussex we have "rowens," or
"rewens" (the latter, I believe, a corruption),
used for the second growth of grass.
Halliwell, in his Dictionary of Archaic and Pro-
vincial Words, has ^^ Rowens, after-grass," as a Suf-
folk word. Bailey gives the word, with a some-
what different signification ; but he has ^^Rowen
hay, latter hay," as a country word.
William Figg.
Lewes.
In Norfolk this is called "aftermath eddish,"
and " rowans " or " rawins."
The first term is evidently from the A.-S. mceth,
a mowing or math : Bosworth's Dictionary. Ed-
dish is likewise from the A.-S. edisc, signifying
the second growth; it is used by Tusser, Oc-
tober's Husbandry, stanza 4. :
** Where wheat upon eddish ye mind to bestow.
Let that be the first of the wheat ye do sow.**
Mowings also occurs in Tusser, and in the Prom"
ptorium Parmdorum, rawynhey is mentioned. In
J3ulej*8 Dictionary it is spelt rowen and rotighings :
this last form gives the etymology, for rowe, as
may be seen in Halliwell, is an old form for rough.
E. G. R.
I have always heard it called in Northumberland,
fog ; in Norfolk, after-math ; in Oxfordshire, I.am
told, it is latter-math, ITiis term is pure A.- Saxon,
mceth, the mowing ; the former word fog, and
eddish also, are to be found in dictionaries, but
their derivation is not satisfactory. C. I. B.
Snail eating (yo\,y\\\», p. 34.). — The beautiful
specimens of the large white snails were brought
from Italy by Singlc'speech Hamilton, a gentleman
of verta and exquisite taste, and placed in the
grounds at Paynes Hill, and some fine statues
likewise. On the change of property, the snails
were dispersed about the country ; and many of
them were picked up by my grandfather, who
lived at the Grove under Boxhill, near Dorking.
They were found in the hedges about West Hum-
ble, and in the grounds of the Grove. I had this
account from my mother ; and had once some of
the shells, which I had found when staying in
Surrey. Julia R. Bockett*
Southcote Lodge.
The snails asked afler by Mr. H. T. Riley are to
be met with near Dorking. When in that neigh-
bourhood one day in May last, I found two in the
hedgerow on the London road (west side) between
Dorking and Box Hill. They are much larger
than the common snail, the shells of a light brown,
and the flesh only slightly tinged with green. I
identified them by a description and drawing given
in an excellent book for children, the Parents
Cabinet, which also states that they are to be found
about Box Hill. G. Rogers Lokg.
The large white snail {Hdix pomatia) is found
in abundance about Box Hill in Surrey. It is
also plentiful near Stonesfield in Oxfordshire,
where have, at different periods, been discovered
considerable remains of Roman villas ; and it has
been suggested that this snail was introduced bj
the former inhabitants of those villas.
W. C. Treveltan.
Wallington.
Sotades (Vol. vii., p. 417.). — Sotades is the sup-
posed inventor of Palindromic verses (see Mr.
Sands* Specimens of Macaronic Poetry, p. 5., 1831.
His enigma on "Madam" was written by Miss
Ritson of Lowestoft). S. Z. Z. S.
The Letter " h " in « humble " (Vol. viii., p. 54.).
— The question has been raised by one of your
correspondents (and I have not observed^ any
reply thereto), as to whether it is a peculiarity of
Londoners to pronounce the h in humble. If, as 8
Londoner by birth and residence, I might be
allowed to answer the Query, I should say that
230
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. aoi.
tibte k is nerer heard in humble^ except when the
word is pronounced from the pulpit. I believe it
to be one of those, either Oxford or Cambridge, or
both, peculiarities, of which no reasonable expla-
nation can be given.
I should be glad to hear whether any satisfactory
general rule has been laid down as to when the h
snould be sounded, and when not. The only rule
which occurs to me is to pronounce it in all words
coming to us from the Celtic " stock," and to pass
it unsounded in those which are of Latin origin.
If this rule be admitted, the pronunciation sanc-
tioned by the pulpit and Mr. Dickens is con-
demned. Benjamin Dawson.
London.
Lord North (Vol.vii., p. 317. ; Vol.viii., p. 184.).
— Is M. E. of Philadelphia laughing at us, when
he refers us to a woodcut in some American pic-
torial publication on the American Revolution for
a true portraiture of the figure and features of
King George III. ; different, I presume, from that
which I gave you. His wood mi t, he says, is taken
"from an English engraving ;*' he does not tell us
who either piunter or engraver was — but no matter.
We have hundreds of portraits by the best hands
which confirm my description, which moreover
was the result of personal observation : for, from
the twentieth to the thirtieth years of my life, I
had frequent and close opportunities of approach-
ing his Majesty. I cannot but express my sur-
prise that *' N". & Q." should have given insertion
to anything so absurd — to use the gentlest term —
as M. E.'s appeal to his " woodcut." C.
Singing Psalms and Politics (Vol. viii., p. 5Q,).
— One instance of the misapplication of psalmody
must suggest itself at once to the readers of " N".
& Q.," I mean the melancholy episode in the his-
tory of the Martyr King, thus related by Hume :
" Another preacher, after reproaching him to his face
with his misgovernment, ordered this Psalm to be
sung,—
* Why dost thou, tyrant, boast thyself.
Thy wicked deeds to praise ? *
The king stood up, and called for that Psalm which
begins with these words, —
* Have mercy, Lord, on me> I pray ;
For men would me devour.'
The good-natured audience, in pity to fallen majesty,
showed for once greater deference to the king than to
the minister, and sung the psalm which the former had
called for.** — Hume's History of Englandy ch. 58.
W. Fbaser.
Tor-Mohun.
Dimidiaiion by Tmpaleinent (Vol. vii^ p. 630.). —
Tour correspondent JD. P. concludes his notice on
this subject by doubting if any instance of '^Dimi-
dtation by Impalement can be found since the
time of Henry VILL If he turn to Andenon*s
Diplomata Scotia (p. 164. and 90.), he will fi»d
that Mary Queen of Scots bore the arms of Franee
dimidiated with those of Scotland from a.d. 1560
to December 1565. This coat she bore as Queen
Dowager of France, from the death of her first
husband, the King of France, until her marritfe
with Darnley. T. H. hb H.
" Inter cuncta micans^^ j-c. (^Vol. vi., p. 413. ;
Vol. vii., p. 510.). — The following translation is
by the Rev. Greo. Greig of Kenuington. It pre-
serves the acrostic and mesostic, though not the
telestic, form of the original :
(<
In glory rUinK sec the sun,
En
So
Up _ . _ _
Sun Thou of RighteousncM Divine,
Illustrious orb ^f dayv
ightening heaven's wide expanse. Expel night*s gloom wmj.
ight into the darkest soul, JESUS, l^hou dost hHart,
ilting Thjr^lifc.giving smUes Upon the deadcn*d htart :
Sole King of Saints Hum
art."
H. T. GRirnTH.
Hull.
Marriage Service (Vol. viii., p. 150.).— I haTe
seen the Kubric carried out, in this parttcolarY ia
St. Mary*s Church, Kidderminster.
CUTHBSBT BUDB, B. A.
Widowed Wife (Vol.viii., p. 56.). — Eur, Hee*
612. " Widowed wife and wedded maid,** occurs
in Vanda*s prophecy ; Sir W. Scott's The B&»
trothedy ch. xv. S. 2^ Z. S.
Pure (Vol. viii., p. 125.). — The use of the
word pure pointed out by Oxoniensis is nothing
new. It is a common provincialism now, and was
formerly good English. Here are two examples
from Swift (^Letters^ by Hawkesworth, voL iv. 1768,
p. 21.):
** Ballygnll will be a pure good place for air.**
Ibid. p. 29. :
** Have you smoakt the Tattler yet ? It is much
liked, and I think it a pure one."
C. Mansfield I]xqi«b»t.
Birmingham.
" Purely, I thank you,** is a common reply of
the country folks in this part when accosted as
to their health. I recollect once asking a mar-
ket-woman about her son who had been ill, and
received for an answer : " Oh he's quite JUrce
again, thank you. Sir.** Meaning, of course, that
be had quite recovered. Nosais Dbgk«
Cambridge.
Mrs. Tighe (Vol.viii., p. 103.).— "There is a
likeness of Mrs. Henry Tighe, the authoress of
* Psyche,* in the Ladies* monthly Museum for
February, 1818. It is engraved by J. Hopwood,
jun., from a drawing by Miss £mma Drummoiid.
Underneath the engraving referred to, art ike
words ' Mrs. Henry Tighe ; * but she is calM m
Sept. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
231
the memoir, ' wife of William Tighe, Esq., M.P.
for Wicklow, whose residence is Woodstock, county
of Kilkenny, author of The Plants^ a poem, 8vo. :
published m 1808 and 1811 ; and Statistical Ob--
servations on the County of Kilkenny, 1800. Mrs.
Tighe is described as having had a pleasing per-
son, and a countenance that indicated melancholy
and deep reflection ; was amiable in her domestic
relations ; had a mind well stored with classic lite-
rature ; and, with strong feelings and affections,
expressed her thoughts with the nicest discrimi-
nation, and taste the most refined and delicate.
Thus endued, it is to be regretted that Mrs. Tighe
should have fallen a victim to a lingering disease
of six years at the premature age of thirty-seven,
on March 24, 1810.' — The remainder of the short
notice does not throw any additional light on
Mrs. Tighe, or family ; but if you. Sir, or the
Editor of « N. & Q." wish, I will cheerfully tran-
scribe it. — I am, Sir, yours in haste, Vix.
« Belfast, Aug. 15."
[We are indebted for the above reply to the Dublin
Weekly Telegraph, which not only does us the honour
to quote very freely from our pages, but always most
liberally acknowledges the source from which the
articles so quoted are derived.]
Satirical Medal (Vol. viii., p. 57.). — I have
seen the same medal of Sir R. Wulpole (the latest
instance of the mediaeval heU-Tnouth with which I
am acquainted) bearing on the obverse — " the
GENEROUSE (sic) DUKE OF ABGYLE ;" and at the
foot " NO PENTIONS." S. Z. Z. S.
" They shot him dead at the Nine-Stone Rig "
(Vol. viii., p. 78.). — Your correspondent the
Borderer will find the fragment of the ballad he
is in search of, commencing with the above line,
in the second volume of the Minstrehy of the Scot-
tish Border, p. 114. It is entitled *'Barthram*s
Dirge," and " was taken down," says Scott, " by
Mr. Surtees, from the recitation of Anne Douglas,
an old woman, who weeded his garden."
Since the death of Mr. Surtees, however, it has
been ascertained that this ballad, as well as " The
Death of Featherstonhaugh," and some others in
the same collection, were composed by him and
passed off upon Scott as genuine old Scottish
ballads.
Farther particulars respecting this clever li-
terary imposition are given in a review of the
" Memoir of Robert Surtees, " in the Athenaum of
August 7, 1852. J. K. R. W.
Hendericus du JBooy9 : Helena Leoitora de Sieveri
(Vol. v., p. 370.). — Are two different portraits of
each of these two persons to be found ? By no
means. There exists, however, a plate of each,
engraved by C. Visscher ; but the first impres-
sions bear the address of E. da Booys, the later
that of £. Cooper. As I am informed by Mr.
Bodel Nijenhuis, Hendericus du Booys took part
in the celebrated three-days' fight, Feb. 18, 19,
and 20, 1653, between Blake and Tromp. — From
the Navorscher, M.
House-marks, Sfc. (Vol. vii., p. 594. ; Vol. viii.,
p. 62.). — May I be allowed to inform Mb. Col-
LTNS that the custom he refers to is by no means
of modern date. Nearly all the cattle which
come to Malta from Barbary to be stall-fed for
consumption, or horses to be sold in the garrison,
bring with them their distinguishing marks by
which they may be easily known.
And it may not be out of place to remark,
that being one of a party in the winter of 1830,
travelling overland from Smyrna to Ephesus, we
reached a place just before sunset where a roving
band of Turcomans had encamped for the night.
On nearing these people we observed that the
women were preparing food for their supper,
while the men were employed in branding with
a hot iron, under the camel's upper lip, their own
peculiar mark, — a very necessary precaution, it
must be allowed, with people who are so well
known for their pilfering propensities, not only
practised on each other, but also on all those who
come within their neighbourhood. Having as
strangers paid our tribute to their great dexterity
in their profession, the circumstance was published
at the time, and to this day is not forgotten.
w.w.
Malta.
" Quifacitper alium, facit per se" — In Vol. vii.,
p. 488., I observe an attempt to trace the source
of the expression, " Qui facit per alium, facit per
se." A few months since I met with the quotation
under some such form as " Qui facit per alium,
per se facere videtur," in the preface to a book on
Surveying, by Fitzherbert (printed by Berthelet
about 1535), where it is attributed to St. Au-
gustine. As I know of no copy of the works of
that father in these parts (though I heard him
quoted last Sunday in the pulpit), I cannot at
present verify the reference. J. Sleednot.
Halifax.
Kngin-d-verge (Vol. vii., p. 619. ; Vol. viii.,
p. 65.). — H. C. K. is mistaken in his conjecture
respecting this word, as the following definition of
it will show :
*^ Engins'Ct-verye. lis comprenaient les diverses es-
p^s de catapultes, les pierriers, &c." — Bescherelle,
Dictionnaire National,
B. H. C.
Campvere, Primlegea of (Vol viii., p. 89.). —
"Jus uruis liberae." Does not this mean the
privilege of using a crane to raise their goods free
of dues, municipal or fiscal ? Grus, grue, krahn^
232
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 201.
kraan, all mean, in their different languages, crane
the bird, and crane the machine. J. H. L.
Humbug — Ambages (Vol. viii., p. 64.). — Maj
I be permitted to inform your correspondent that
Mr. May was certainly correct when using the
word " ambages " as an English word in his trans-
lation of Lucan.
In HowelFs Dictionary, published in London in
May 1660, I find it thus recorded ;
** Ambages, or circumstances."
*' Full of ambages.*'
w.w.
Malta.
« Going to Old Weston'' (Vol. iii., p. 449.).— In
turning over the pages of the third volume of "N.
& Q." recently, I stumbled on Abun^s notice of
the above proverb. It immediately struck me
that I had heard it used myself a few days before,
-without being conscious at the time of the singu-
larity of the expression. I was asking an old man,
who had been absent from home, where he had
been to ? His reply was, " To Old Weston, Sir.
You know I must go there before I die." Know-
ing that he had relatives living there, I did not,
at the time, notice anything extraordinary in the
answer; but, since reading Abun's note, I have
made some inquires, and find the saying is a com-
mon one on this (the Northamptonshire) side
of Old Weston, as well as in Huntingdonshire.
I have been unable to obtain any explanation of
it, but think the one suggested by your corre-
spondent must be right. One of my informants
(an old woman upwards of seventy) told me she
had often heard it used, and wondered what could
be its meaning, when she was a child. W. W.
B Rectory, Northamptonshire.
Meynolds's Nephew (Vol. viii., p. 102.). — I think
I can certify A. Z. that two distinct branches of
the Palmer family, the Deans, and another claim-
ing like kindred to Sir Joshua Beynolds, still
exist ; from which I conclude that Sir Joshua had
at least two nephews of that name. I regret that
I cannot inform your correspondent as to the
authorship of the piece about which he inquires ;
but, in the event of A. Z. not receiving a satisfac-
tory answer to his Query through the medium of
your publication, if he will furnish me with any
farther particulars he may possess on the subject,
I shall be happy to try what I can do towards
possessing him with the desired information.
J. Sansom.
Oxford.
The Laird of Brodie (Vol. viii., p. 103.). —
I. H. B. mistakes, I think, the meaning of the
lines. The idea is not that the Laird was less
than a gentleman, but that he was a gentleman of
mark ; at least, I have never heard any other in-
terpretation put upon it in Scotland, where the
ballad of "We'll gang nae mair a-roving," is a
great favourite. King James is the subject of the
ballad. That merry monarch made many lively
escapades, and on this occasion he personated a
be^garman. The damsel, to whom he successfully
paid his addresses, saw through the disguise at
first ; but from the king's good acting, when he
Eretended to be afraid that the dogs would " rive
is meal pokes," she began to think she had been
mistaken. Then she expressed her disgust by
saying, that she had thought her lover could not
be anything less than the Laird of Brodie, the
highest untitled gentleman probably in the neigh-
bourhood : implying that she suspected he might
be peer or prince. W. C.
Mulciber (Vol. viii., p. 102.). — It may not be a
suflficient answer to Mb. Wabd's Query, but I
wish to state that there was no " Mayor of Bromig-
ham" until after the passing of the Reform Biu.
I think that it may be inferred from the extract
given below, that the mayor was no more a reality
than the shield which he is said to have wrought :
** His shield was wrought, if we may credit Fame,
By Mulciber, the Mayor of Bromigbam.
A foliage of dissembPd senna leaves
Grav'd round its brim, the wond'ring sight deceives.
Embost upon its field, a battle stood,
Of leeches spouting hemorrhoidal blood.
The artist too expresst the solemn state,
Of grave physicians at a consult met ;
About each symptom how they disagree !
But how unanimous in case of fee I
And whilst one ass-ass-in another plies
With starch'd civilities— the patient dyes."
N. W. S.
Voiding Knife (Vol. vi., pp. 150. 280.). — The
following quotation from Leland will throw more
light on the ancient custom of voyding :
« In the mean time the server geueth a voyder to
the carver, and he doth voyde into it the trenchers that
lyeth under the knyues point, and so cleanseth the
tables cleane." — CoUectanea, vol. vi. p. 11., "^The In-
tronization of Nevill.*'
Q.
Bloomsbury.
Sir John Vanhrugh (Vol. viii., pp. 65. 160.). —
Previous to sendins you my Query about the
birthplace of Sir John Vanbrugh, I had carefully
gone through the Registers of the Holy Trinity
parish, Chester, and had discovered the baptisms
or burials of seven sons and six daughters of
Mr. Giles Vanbrugh duly registered therein. Sir
John's name is not included in the list ; therefore,
if he was bom in Chester, his baptism must have
been registered at one of the many other parish
churches of thb city. The registers of St. Jeter's
Church, a neighbouring parish, have also been
Sept. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
S88
examined, but contain no notice of tlie baptism of
tite future knight. I will, however, continue the
chace ; and should I eventually faJl in with the
object of my search, will give my fellow- lab oarers
the benefit of my explorations. Mr. Vanbrugh
sen. died at Chester, and was buried with Eeveral
of his children at Trinity Church, July 19, 1689.
T< Hughes.
Chester.
Portrait of Charles 7.— The portrait of Charles I.
by Vandyke (the subject of Mb. Bbeen's Query,
"If. & Q.," Vol. viiiT p. 151.) ia no less than the
celebrated picture in which the monarch is repre-
sented atflnding, with his right hand resting on a
■walking cane, and bis left (the arm being beauli-
fully fgreahortened) against his liip ; and immedi-
ately behind bira bis horse is held by an equerry,
anppoaed to be (he Marquis of Hamilton. The
picture hangs in the great eiiuare room at the
Louvre, close on the left hand of the usual en-
trance door, and is undoubtedly one of the finest
in that magnificent collection. As a portrait, it is
without a rival. It is well known in this country
by the admirable engraving from it, executed in
1782, by Sir Robert Strange.
The description of this picture iu the Catalc^ue
for 1852 du Miisee Nalioraile du Louvre, is aa
follows : —
"Gravl pat Strange; par Bornefoy ; par Duparc;
— Filhol, I. i. pi. S.
" Callection de Louis XV. — Ce tableau, qui a Hi
ex&ule vers 1635, ne fut pay6 a van Dvcfc que 100
Hires sterling. En 1754, il faisoit partie, suivaut
Sescamps, du cabinet du marquis de Lassay. On
trouve cetle note dans les memoires secrets de Baehau-
Then follows the passage quoted by Me. Bbeen.
I can find no mention of a Dubarry among the
ancestors of the monarch. H. C- K.
Buriid m an erect Posture (Vol. viii., p. 59.). —
" Pas-i, paSB, who will yon chantry door,
And through the chink in the rtactureii floor
Look down, and see a grisly sight,
A vault where the bodies are buried upright ;
There face to face and hand Ly hand
TJie Ciaphams and Maulcterers stand."
WorrJswoTth. WhiU Doe of Aylitone, Canto 1.,
p. 59., line 17., new edition, 1B37.
See note on line 17 token from Whituker's
Craven:
" At the east enJ of the north aisle of Bolton Priory
Church is a chantry belonging to Betbmesley Hall,
■t)d a vault where, according to tradition, the Clapbatns
were buried upright."
F. W. J.
Snii-Sloieers and Yealhers or Yailderf (Voi.'viii.,
p. 148.), — The former of these words is, I believe,
obsolete, or nearly so. It means bracing* stakes :
ttrut, in carpentry, Is to brace ; and etowir is a small
kind of stake, as distinguished from the " ten
stakes" mentioned in the legend quoted by Mb.
CoOPEB.
The other word, Yeather or Yadder, is yet In use
in Northumberland (viil. Brockott's Glossary^,
and is mentioned by Charlton in his History of
Whitby, The legend referred to by Mb. Coopke
is, I suspect, of modern origin ; but Dr. Young,
in his History of Whitby, vol i. p. 310., attributes
it to some of the monks of the abbey \ on what
grounds he does not say. The records of the
abbey contain no allusion to the legend; and no
ancient MS. of it, either in Latin or English, has
ever been produced. The penny-hedge a yearly
renewed to this day ; but it is a service performed
for a different reason than that attributed in the
The term strut is commonly used by carpentera
for a brace or stay. Stower, in Bailey s Dic-
tionary, is a stake ; Halliwell spells it ttoure, and
says it is still in use. Forby connects the Norfolk
word stour, stiff, inflexible, applied to standing
corn, with this word, which he says is Lowland
Scotch, and derives tliera both from Sui.-G. sloer,
stipes. A yeather or yadder seems to be a rod to
wattle the stakes with. In Norfolk, wattling a
live fence is called ethering it, which word, evi-
dently with yeather, may be derived from A.-S.
ether or edor, a hedge. The barons, therefore,
had to drive their stakes perpendicularly into the
sand, to put the strut-stowers diagonally to enable
them to withstand the force of the tide, and
finally to wattle them together with the yeatbers.
E.6.B.
Armsof See of York (Vol. viii., p.lll.). — It
appears thot the arms of the Sea of York were
certainly changed during Wolsey's lime, for on
the vaulting of Christ Church Gate, Canterbury,
is a shield bearing (in sculpture) the same arms
as those now used by the Metropolitan See of
Canterbury, impaling those ofWolsey, and over
the shield a cardinal's hat. This gateway was
built in 1317; yet in the parliament roll of
6tb Henry VIII,, 1515, the keys and crown are
impaled with the arms of Wolsey as Archbishop
of York (see fac-simile, published by Willement,
4to. Lond, 1899), showing that the alteration was
not generally known when the gateway was built.
Although the charges on the earlier arms of the
See of York were the same as on that of Canterbury,
the colours of their fields differed; for in a north
window of the choir of York Minster is a shield
of arms, bearing the arms of Archbishop Bowett,
who held the see from 1407 to 1423, impaled by
the pall and pastoral Btaff, on a field guies. The
glass is to all nppearance of the fifteenth century.
234
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 201.
Lemon Family (Vol. viii., p. 150.). — Without
being able to give a substantial reply to R. W. L.'fi
Query, it may assist Lim to know that Sir John
Leman had but one brother (William), who cer-
tainly did not emigrate from his native land. Sir
John died, March 26, 1632, without issue ; and
was buried in the chancel of St. Michael, Crooked
Lane, London. His elder brother, William, had
five sons ; all settled comfortably in England, and
not at all likely to have left their native country.
One of the Heralds^ Visitations for the counties of
Norfolk or Suffolk would materially assist your
Fhiladelphian correspondent. T. Hughes.
Chester.
Position of Font (Vol. vii., p. 149.). — In the
church of Milton near Cambridge, the font is
huiU into the north pier of the chancel arch ; and
from the appearance of the masonry, &c., this is
evidently the original position. I have visited
some hundreds of churches, and this is the only
instance I have observed of a font in this position.
Numerous instances occur where it is hutU into
the south-western pier of the nave.
NoRBis Deck.
Cambridge.
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240
Milton and Malatesti, by Bolton Comey . . -
"That Swinney"
Tom, Mythic and Material, by V. T. Sternberg
Shakspcare Correspondence, by T. J. Biicktoo, Thos.
Keightley, &c. ......
Minor Notes: — Gray: " The ploughman homeward
pIod»" — Poetical Tavern Signs — " Aouae in Vinum
converse. Vidit et erubuit lympha pudica Deum ">-
Spurious Edition of Baily's "Annuities " — " Illus-
trium Poetarum Flores " — French Jeux d'Esprit - 241
Queries : ~.
Samuel Wilson ... . • . .242
Minor Queries:— The Rothwell Family.- Definition
of a Proverb — Latin Riddle — D. Ferrand : French
Patois — " Fac precor, Jesu benigne," &c — The
Arms of De Sissonne — Sir George Brown — Pro-
fessional Poems — **A mockery," &c. — Passage in
Whiston — Sh iulder Knots and Epaulettes — The Yew
Tree in Village Churchyards — Passage in Tennyson
— " When ih3 Maggot bites" — Eclipses of the'Sun
— •• An " lefjre " u " long— ^ Reversible Names —
<?ilbert White of Selborne — Hoby, Family of; their
Portraits, &c. — Portrait of Sir Anthony Wingfield —
Lofcapp, Lufcopp, or Luvcopp — Humming Ale . 243
Minor Queries with Answers : — Dr. Richard Sher.
lock— Cardinal Fieury and Bishop Wilson— Dr. Dodd
a Dramatist — Trosacbs — Quarter
. 246
^Ieplies: —
Jacob Bohme, or Behmen, by J. Yeowell - - 246
Inscriptions on Bells, by Cuthbert Bede, B.A. - - 243
Passage in Milton -.-... 249
Designed false English Rhymes .... 249
Attainment of Majority, by Professor De Morgan - 250
X.!tdy Percy, Wife of JElotspur (Daughter of Edmund
Mortimer, Earl of March), and Jane Seymour's Royal
Descent ....... 251
rHOTOGRAPRic CORRESPONDENCE : — Three New Pro-
cesses by Mr. Lyte — MuUer's Processes: Sisson's
Developing Solution .....
HEruEs TO Minor Queries :— Alterius Orbis Papa—** All
my eye" — " Clatnoiir your tongues " — Spiked Maces
represented in Windows of the Abbey Church, Great
3Ialvern — Ampers and — Its — '* Hip, hip, hurrah ! "
— Derivation of " Wellesley " — Penny-come-quick
— Eugene Aram's Comparative Lexicon — Wooden
Tombs and Effigies — Queen Anne's Motto — Lon-
ferity — Irish Bishops as English Suffragans — Green
'ots used for drinking from by Members of the
Temple — Shape of Coffins — Old Fogies — Swan-
marks— Limerick, Dublin, and Cork — ** Could we
with ink," &c. — Character of the Song of the Night-
ingale— Adam&on's " Lusitania lilustrata" — Adam-
soniana — Crassus' Saying, &c. • - -
"Miscellaneous : —
Books and Odd Volumes wanted > • • -
Notices to Correspondents . • . .
Advertisements .-••••
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Vol. VIII. — No. 202.
MILTON AND MALATESTI.
About nine years after Milton visited Italy, he
thus briefly noticed, in a letter to Carlo Dati, his
surviving Florentine friends :
" Carolo Dato patricio Florentine Tu in-
terim, mi Carole, valebis, et Cultellino, Francino, Fres- '
cobaldo, Malatestae, Clementillo mlnori, et si quem
alium nostri amantiorem novisti ; toti denique Gad*
dianae academiae, salutem meo nomine plurimam dices.
Interim vale. — Londino, Aprilis 21. 1647,"
The above extract is from The prose works of
John Milton, as printed in 1806, and I shall add to
it the translation by Robert Fellowes, A.M., from
the same edition :
" To Carolo Deodati, a Florentine noble In
the mean time, my dear Charles, farewell, and present
my kind wishes to Cultellino, Francisco, Trescobaldo»
Malatesto, the younger Clemantillo, and every other
inquiring friend, and to all the members of the Gaddian
academy. Adieu. — London, April 21. 1647,"
Warton states, in a note on the minor poems of
Milton, that Mr. Brand discovered, on a book-
stall, a manuscript of La tina of Malatesti, dedi^
cated to Milton ivhile at Florence y and that he
gave it to Mr. Hollis, who sent it in 1758, to-
gether with the works of Milton, to the Accademia
della Crusca. Warton justly observes, " The first
piece would have been a greater curiosity in Eng-
land." With these facts the information of the
most recent biographers of Milton seems to ter-
minate. I am enabled, however, to prove that the
work is IN PRINT, and shall transcribe my authority
verbatim :
" Mal4testz, Antonio. La tina, equivoci rusticali (ia
50 sonetti). Londra, Tommaso Edlin, 1757, in 8®.
Non ifatta in Londra quest* ediz, ntl 1757, ma presso
che 80 anni dopo in Venezia, ed in numero di 50 esemplari
in carta velinOt due in carta grande int/lese da disegnot ed
unOf unico, in pergamena.
II Malatesti aveva regalato una copia di questl
graziosisfiirai Bonetti al celebre inglese Gio. Milton^
neU* anno in cui egli visitava Tltalia. Dopo la morte
del Milton pervennero in mano del sig. Brant, gen-
iliaomo inglese, il quale una copia nc i'^^9 tra^r(^ per
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[No. 202.
regalaria a Gio. Marsili, prof, dell' Universita di Pa-
dova, che nel 1757 si trovava in Londra. II ms. del
Marsili servl a questa ristampa che porta in fronte
quella stessa prefazione in inglese che stava nel ms.
Marsiliano."
The authority alluded to is the fourth edition of
the Serie dei testi di lingua of Bartolommeo Gamba,
Venezia, 1839, royal 8vo. — one of the best biblio-
graphical compilations ever produced. I was led
to suspect, on glancing at the note, that Gamba
himself was the editor of the volume, and now
consider it as certain, for La Una appears under his
name in the index. As copies of the work must
have reached England I hope to see the dedication
reprinted, and am sure it would be received as a
welcome curiosity.
I cannot commend Mr. Fellowes as a translator
of Milton. To Carolo is a solecism ; Deodati
should be Dati ; the period which precedes the
extract is entirely omitted; and the five names
which follow Charles, besides being mis-spelt, have
the termination which can only be required in
Latin composition! I believe we should read
Coltellini, Francini, Frescobaldi, Malatesti, and
Clementini. On Coltellini and Malatesti there is
much valuable information in Pogo^iali and Gamba.
BOLTOW CORWBT.
"that swinney.'*
{Continued from p. 215.)
Swinney was the devoted servant of all men in
power — of all who had been or were likely to be in
power — except, perhaps, the peace-makers, who,
curiously enough, did not please this minister of
peace — of all, perhaps, who subscribed to his pub-
lications, or had the means to subscribe ; and
who, if they did not, might hereafter. Swinney 's
volume of Fugitive Pieces was dedicated to the
Duke of Grafton. A third edition contains additions
which show how Swinney's great zeal outran his
little discretion. The following verses appeared
originally in The Public Advertiser on the 27th of
May, 1768, and are bad enough to be preserved
as a curiosity :
** An Extempore Effusion on reading a Scurrilous In-
vectioe against the Duke of G n [^GrafLonl,
published in yesterday's Newspapers,
Cursed be the Wretch, and blasted rot his name,
Who dares to stab an injured G n's fame !
Who (while his public virtue stands confest.
And lives within his Rotal Master's breast)
Can rake for Scandal in liis private life,
And widen breaches between man and wife;
Who casts a stone (like some unthinking Clf ),
That haply shall recoil against himself!
Anguish, Remorse, and Terror seize his Soul,
And waste it quick where fiends malicious howl ;
May those rank pests through which bis father fell.
Announce his coming to the Gates of Hell !
And yet, or ere he plunge into the Lake,
Where no cool stream his endless thirst can slake.
May Christ in mercy deprecate his doom,
And may to Him his promised Kingdom come I
" SiDNET SwiKKET.'*
Not content with future punishment, the Doctor,
in another poem, threatens present vengeance ;
** But hark thee, wretch ; believe him while he swears;
Sid (by the gods) will crop thine asses ears.
Should thou persist a G n to impeach.
And blast those virtues thou canst never reach.**
As Draper had taken Granby under his pro-
tection, so Swinney must needs play the chivalrous
in defence of Grafton. The dedication of The
Battle ofMinden is dated 20th May, 1769, and the
poet in the exordium goes out of his waj to notice,
as I suppose, the attacks of Junius :
'* His [Sid's] blood recoils with an indignant rage,
'Gainst the base hirelings of a venal i^e.
Wretches t that spare nor nunlsters nor kings, *
Blend good with bad, profene with sacred things ;
Whose vengeful hearts, with wrath and malice curs^
Blast virtuous deeds ; and then, with envy burst.
They dart their arrows, innocence traduce.
And load e'eij G n with their vile abuse.**
To this passage he appends the fbllowing note,
which occupies, in his magnificent typographical
volume, a whole quarto page :
" It is observable that this amiable personage [the
Duke of Grafton], and most consummate statesman,
has been bespattered with as much low ealurany and
abuse, from various quarters, as if be had been the
declared enemy of his country, instead of having man-
fully and courageously stood up in support of its true
interests. — S."
Let us consider now. What are the probabilities
of Swinney never having spoken to Lord George
Sackville ?
That he did on that occasioD speak to Lord
George — that he did ask him *' whether or no he
was the author of Junius" — may be assumed:
and it is very probable that Junius heard of it, at
fiuTst or at second hand, from Swinney himself; for
the impertinent blockhead that would ask such a
question, was just the man to tell what he had
done, and to think it a good thing. But had he
never before spoken to Sackville f Was this a
fact or a flourish — an aflectation of seeret in-
formation, like the '^sent** and "went** about
Garrick — the "every partieular next ^y" —
which we now know to have been UBtrue.
That Swinney had been chaplain to one of the
British regiments serving in Germany is manifest
from twenty different references in the poem and
the notes. I lay no stress on his poetical flights
about Euphorbus ; but he speaks repeatedly from
personal experience — specially refers to cnrcum-
stances occurring when quartered at a farm-house
near Embden — at the camp at Crossdorf — ac-
knowledges personal favours received during the
Skpt. 10. 1853.]
NOTES ANI> QUERIES.
239
campaign from Greneral Harvey, and on another
occasion attentions from Granby. Here, for ex-
ample, is a poetical picture which brings Swinnej
vividly before us :
" At Marienbourn, the vaunting army halts,
A pastor from the heav'n-devoted train.
Brings bams and fowls, and spreads them on the plain :
The jovial officers their bellies fill,
Ralii/ their chaplain, and applaud him stUI.*'
Swinney must therefore have served under
Sackville ; for, as he tells us, Sackville
" by George was made
Good Marlbro's successor ** —
and certainly the probabilities are that he must
have been personally known to — had before
spoken to him. Sackville must at this very time
have been particularly anxious about Swinney
and his doings, wise or unwise. That fatal battle
of Minden had been the ruin of all his hopes — the
overthrow of all his ambition. In my opinion,
Sackville had been shamefully and shamelessly
run down on that occasion ; but whether justly or
unjustly stripped of his honours and degraded for
his conduct, here was a man about to write
a poem on the battle, to immortalise those who
fought in it ; and Sackville must have been keenly
alive to what he might say of him. Swinney
foreshadowed what his opinion would be in the
First Book, where he enumerates Sackville
amongst his " choice leaders " —
" Good Marlbro', Sackville, Granby, Waldgrave bold,
Brudenell and Kingsley."
This was published early in 1769.
In the Second Book Lord George is brought
prominently forward. The " bewilder'd Ferdi-
nand," " doubtful himself," summons a council of
war, and calls first on Sackville for advice.
" Sackville, dl^lose the secret of thy breast :
Say, shall we linger in ignoble rest ?
Shall we retreat? advance, or perish here?
Resolve our queries : state thy judgment clear."
Sackville now plays the "high heroical," and
talks through six pages ; but to what purpose I
am unable to conjecture. There seems to be a
great deal of angry remonstrance — of offensive
remonstrance :
** When I ask [says Sackville to Ferdinand], didst ever
thou consult
A chief, till now, and wait the sage result ?
When Aalm's camp was deluged all in rain.
And floods rusbt o*er an undistinguisht plain.
To thy flint heart remonstrances were vain :
What, then, avail'd neglected Mailbro's prayers !
His instances? His unremitted cares?
The Elector*s stables had sufli>eieBt room.
Stalls, without end, anticipate. th« do€Hin
Of British chargers, forced to march, at noon,.
Beneath their riders* we^ht and scorching sun."
Swinney then gives in a note what he calls ihA
genuine queries proposed hj Prince Ferdinand,
with Sackville*s answer : which answer is nearljp
as void of distinct meaning as the poetry, but ia
favour I think of risking a battle. The general pur-
port, however, foreshadows what Swinney's eonclu«
sion would have been — that Sackville^ the friend oi
the British soldier, protested against the frauds bjr
which they were robbed and starved; protested
against their being called on to do all the work^
and run all the risks of the campaign ; and dis-
dains to humour or flatter Prince Ferdinand.
These were, in brief, the explanations givea by
Sackville's friends as the cause of his dissrrace—
Granby the favoured, a gallant soldier indeed
but a mere soldier, being comparatively indifferent
about such commissarisd matters, and much more
easily deceived by the cunning of the selfish Grer-*
mans and English. This intention is made stiU
more clear in another note, wherein Swinnejir
states :
" We may be enabled to account for a certain dis-
graceful event, in some future observation of ours^
equally to the honour of the person disgraced, and to th«e
innocent cause of that disgrace."
Under these circumstances there can be little-
doubt that Sidney Swinney, D.D., was the party
alluded toby Junius; as little, I think, that Swinney
had before, and long before, spoken to Lord George-
Sackville, — must have been dear to Sackville, a»
one of the few who had served under, and yet had a
kind word to say for him, — had said it indeed, and
was about to repeat it emphatically. That Swiik-
ney was the fool Junius asserted, the extract al'-
ready given must have abundantly proved ; but 1
will conclude with one other, in which he not-
only anticipated Fitzgerald, but anticipated the:
burlesque exaggerations in the "Rejected Ad-
dresses :"
'< Horse, Foot, Hussars, or ere they noarch review'd.
• • . • • • *>
The Foot, that form the first and second line.
All smartly drest, like Grecian heroes shine;
Their bold cock'd hats, their spatterdashers white»^
And glossy shoes, attract his ravisb'd sight.**
T.S.J.
TOM, MYTHIC AND MATERIAL.
"All Toms are alike^" quoth the elegant Pelhani;
and if we were asked to define the leading idea of
him, we should describe a downright honest Jotm
Bull, essentially manly^ but withal a bit — perhaps
a large bit — of a dullard. His masculinity is tiiw
questionable. A male cat, as every liodtj knows,
is a Tom-CAt ; a romping bey-like, girl is. a Tom-^
boy, or a Tom -rig ; a barge nob-headed pin i» a
Tom- pin; and in many pro'vineial fleets the
great toe i8,^r excellence^ the 2Vm^toe. Last^^not
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[No. 202.
least, there is the nectar of St. Giles, the venerable
Old Tom, In proof of his stupidity we can adduce
a goodly show of epithets — STom-fool, Tbm-neddy,
Tom-noddy, Tbm-cull, 7\?»i-coney, Tom-farthing,
&c. We know, indeed, there are people who hold
that even in these instances Tom is merely the
masculine prefix to distinguish the ^c-fool (i. e.
the Tom-fool) from the Molly or she-foo\ of the
ancient mumming. But the race of Toms must
not lay this flattering unction to their souls, for
the hypothesis won't stand. The very monosyllable
itself, like " Sammy," has a strong twang of the
bauble in it. An open truth-lovmg fellow is a
Tom Tell-truth : but, on the other hand, all tin-
kers— a sadly libelled race of men — are invariably
Tom-tinkers, as all tars have been Jack-iuvs from
time immemorial. In some of the old-fashioned
country games nt cards the knave is called Tom ;
and the wandering mendicants who used to levy
black-mail, under the plea of insanity, were Mad
Toms, or " Tomjy-o'-Bedlam.*' " Tom all alone "
is a northern sobriquet for the Wandering Jew,
who, the last time we heard of him, was caught
stealins: jringerbread nuts at Richmond Fair. In
the legendary division there is the notorious Tom- .
Styles — the depredatory Tom the piper's son
(legitimate issue of Tom Piper, the musician of
the old Morris Dance) — the fortunate Tom Tidier
of the original diggings, and that heroic little liege
of Queen Mab, the knight of the thumb. Tom-
Tumbler was a saltatory fiend in the days of Regi-
nald Scott ;^ and Tom Poker still devours little
folks in Suffolk, without doubt (thinks Forby) a
descendant of the Sui.-G. tompte poecke, or house-
goblin. As for the ignominious Tom Tiler (North
Country for hen-pecked husband) we cannot
allow him to belong to the family ; for who can
imagine a hen-pecked Tom ! he must have been
a wretched individuality, a suffering, corporeal
Tiler.
Tom also bestows his name on divers other
things, animate and inanimate. Among fishes
there are Tommy-Loach, Tom/wy-Bar, and Tom-
Toddy (the Cornish name of the tod-pole). The
Long- Tom and the Tom-tit are both ornithologicd
Toms. Tom Tailor is a child's name for the
Harry-long-legs — another singular instance, by
the way, of Christian names applied to animals.
Tom-trot reminds one of pre-pantaloon orgies,
and is (I think) something in the brandy-ball line.
Finally, we may remark, that a large proportion
of her Majesty's subjects are in the habit of con-
ferring the endearing name upon the staff of life
itself. "Navvies," agricultural labourers, and
such like gentry, are accustomed to divide all
human food into two classes, which they euphoni-
cally denominate respectively Todge and Tommy;
the former comprising spoon-meat, and the latter
all hard food which requires mastication. But
this, we think, is not a case of Tom per se, but
rather referable to the Camb.-Brit. iamoj which
has exactly the same acceptation.
y. T. St£SNB£B6.
SHAKSPEARE COSBESFONDENGE.
Shakspearian Parallels. — Searching for Shak-
spearian parallels, I find the following, which may
have suggested to our bard hb Seven Ages. The
first is by Solon, extracted from Clemens Alexan-
drinus (^Stromat vi. p. 685., Paris, 1629), which
differs from Philo Judseus (i. p. 25.), the only two
authorities to whom we owe the preservation of
this ode, as also from the text of the critic Brunck
and the grammarian Dalzell. An imitation of the
Greek metres is attempted in the paraphrased
translation attached. The second is a sonnet from
Tusser, who extends the period of life beyond
seventy, the age of Solon and David in hotter
climes, to eighty-four for hyperboreans, but as-
signs, with David, the imbecility belonging to
such advanced years.
7. Ileus fikv AvTiSos eiov trt vfprios ep/cos IWvt«i^
^{nraSt iKSdWci vpwTOV iu eirr* thecriy,
14. Tohs 8' 4r4povs Zre 8^ TeAcVct 0ejry Itt* iyiavTOvs,
"H^Tjs iK(t>aiv€i <nr4pixaTa yeivofiiimis.
21. T^ TpiTdrri 8i yheiov at^o/xevooy iirl yvlcov
Aaxvovrai, XP®*^* &v&oi &ixu€ofA4vrjs.
28. TJ Bk rerdprp vas rts iv 4SSofidSi fiey* Apiaros
'IffXvy, ^VT* &vdpes (rfifiar^ Iexowt* iiper^s.
35. Hifiirrp 8' &piov avZpa ydfiov ixffxvrifxivoy chat. [
Ka\ iral^y ^Tyrelv els drrlffco yeveiiv,
42. Tj 8* 6/CT77 TTfpnrdifTa KaraprvcTat y6os ^v^iphs,
OvZ* iffiBsiv iff" dfjiws ipya fidraia d'cAci.
49. 'Eirreb 8^ vovy koI* y\(6(r<ray iy kSiofAdtri n4y* Apt-
ffTOS'
56. OKT(i) 8' h4i(pOT4poay T4(Taapa koX }i4iC fnj,
63. Tg 8* iudrp in fihv Zifvarrai, fifTpidrtpa 8* alrov,
Uphs lAcydKriv hper^v (Tupid re icol Zlvapus.
70. Tp deKdrri 8' 8t€ 8)) Te\4<rri &ehs Iitt* €Viavroi>s,
OifK tty &apo5 4&)r fiotpay tx"^*- ^M^drov,
7. Youth immature, not a tooth in his jaw^ while an
infant he slumbers ;
Growing, shows teeth i* th* first seven years of
his life.
14. God, in the next seven years, to him grants eT*ry
pow'r of production ;
Thus soon commands man, sacred, to look on
the sex.
21. Thirdly, his beard, while it roughens his chin;
and his limbs, freely playing.
Grow lustVously bright, changing their flowery
hue.
28. Fourth, in this 8ev*n-fold order, the man very
speedily shoots forth.
Mighty in muscular limbs, proud of bis vigour
and strength,
/ Read^foriral
Sept. 10. 1853.]
KOTES AND QUERIED
35. Fifth, in malurit;, glowing; in hsaltli, witb bU
heart in the right place.
Let him, wUdam-Jain'd, think upon chilitren
43. Siith, let him carefully ponder on things of im-
portance to mankind ;
Disdaining whate'er, formerly, Ibolish he sought.
49. Seventh, in mind or in tongue ia he best, either
I exeetllng, for a term of
63. Ninth, he declines in his powers of force, and the
deeds of his yuuthhoodi
Shorn of the vigour of manhood, he awaits his
70. God in the tenth of the seven, mature, all his
functions develop'd.
Consigns him, full ripe, darkly to sleep in the
So far Solon. Tusser quaintly but wiselj :
" Man's age divided here ye have.
By 'prenticeships, from birtli to grave.
7. The lirsl seven years hring up as a child,
14. The next to learning, for waxing loo wild.
21. The neit, keep under Sir Hohbard de Hoy ;
liS. Tlie next, a man, no longer a boy.
35. The next, let Lusty ky wisely to wive;
42. The next, lay now, or else never to thrive.
49. The next, make sure for term of thy life i
56. The ncil, save somewhat fur children and wife.
63. The neit, be stayd, gi™ over thy lust ;
70. The next, think hourly, whither thou must.
77. Tlie neit, get chair and crutches to stay ;
84. The neit, to heaven ; God send us the way I
Who loseth their youth shall rue it in age.
Who hateth the truth in sorrov shall rage."
T. J. BnCKTOK.
" CtmtenU dies " — Love's LabourU Lost, Act V.
Sc. 2. (Vol. vlii., pp. 120. 169.). —I must be
permitted, with all due courtesy, lo correct Mb.
Abhowsmith's assertion respecting this phrase ;
because, from its dogmatic tone, iC is calculated
to mielead readers, and perhaps editors. He
maintains that this is a good concord, and pro-
nounces Johnson and Collier (mj'self, of course,
included) to be "unacquainted with the usage of
their own tongue, and the universal language of
thought," for not discerning it.
Now it mnj, perhaps, surprise Mb. Abbovismith
to be told that he has proved nothing — that not a
single one of his instances is relevant. In this
passage the verb is neuter or active ; in all of his
quotations it is the verb tabstiaUitie we meet.
Surely one so well versed, as we must suppose him
to be, in general grammar, requires not to be told
that tliis verb takes the same case after as before
it, and that the governing case often follows.
stances of " contents " governing a singular verb.
Let him then produce an eioci parallel to "contenta
dies," or even such a structure as this, " the con-
tents is lies and calumnies," and then we maj
hearken to him. Tdl that has been done, my in-
terpretation is the only one that gives sense to the
passage vrithout altering the text.
An exact parallel to the sense in wUch I take
"contents" is found in —
" But heaven hath a hand in these events.
To whose high will we bound our calm eotUtnti."
Mic&. II., Act V. Sc. 2.
In conclusion, I must add that I still regard this
emendatory criticism as a "game," tJie Latin
hidus, as it gives scope to sagacity and ingenui^,
but can rarely hope to arrive at certainty; and it
does not, like questions of ethics or politics, involve
important interests, and should never eicile our
angry feelings. As to "cogging and falsification,"
which Mb. A. joins with it, tbey can have no just
reference to nte, as I havp never descended to the
employment of such artifices. Thos. Keiobtlet.
P. S. — I have just seen H. C. K.'s observation
on " clamour your tongues" in the Winters Tale,
and it really seems strange tbat be should not
have read, or should have forgotten ray view of it
in " N, & Q.," which is j)recisc?ly similar to his
own. As to suspecting hira of pilfering from me,
nothing is farther fruu my thoughts.
Meaning of Delighted , — With reference to the
word delighted in Shakapeare, much discussed in
"N, & Q.," may I remhid you that we call that
which carries (or is furnished, or provided with)
wings, winged; that which carries wheels, wheeled;
that which carries masts, masted ; and so on. Why
then should not a pre- Johnsonian writer call that
which carries delight, delighted f It appears to
me that this will suf&uiently explfun " delighted
beauty;" and "the delighted spirit" I would
account for in the same way : only remiCTking that
in this case, the borne delights meant are ddigbta
to the hearer ; in the other case, delights to all
whom the bearer approaches, J. W. F.
^iiiac fiattS.
Gray — " The ploughman homeward plods." —
On lookin" over some MSS. which I had not seen
for years, I met with one of which the tbllowing is
" A person had a paper folded with this line from
' The ploughman homewards plods hja weary way.'
A poetical friend, on looking at the quotation, thought
it might be expressed in various ways without destroy-
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ing the rhyme, or altering the sense. In a diott time
he produced the following eleven different readings.
It is doubtful whether another line can be found, the
words of which admit of so many transpositions, and
still retain the original meaning : —
1. The weary ploughman plods his homeward way.
2. The weary ploughman homeward plods bis way.
3. The ploughman, weary, plods his homeward way.
4. The ploughman weary homeward plods his way.
5. Weary the ploughman plods his homeward way.
6. Weary the ploughman homeward plods his way.
7. Homeward the ploughman plods his weary way.
8. Homeward the ploughman weary plods his way.
9. Homeward the weary ploughman plods his way.
10. The homeward ploughman weary plods his way.
11. The homeward ploughman plods his weary way.'*
I know not whether this has ever appeared in
print. To me it is new, at least it was, as I now
recollect, when I read it several years ago ; but
as the exercise is ingenious, I thought 1 would
trespass on " N. & Q.*' with it, so that, if not here-
tofore printed or known, it might be made " a note
of.** A Hebmit at Hampstead.
Poetical Tavern Signs, — Passing through Dudley
the other day, I jotted down two signs worthy, I
think, of a place m " N. & Q.*'
No. 1. rejoices in the cognomen of the " Lame
Dog '' with the following distich :
** Step in, my friend, and rest awhile,
And help the Lame Dog over the style.*'
No. 2., with a spirited representation of a round
of beef, invites her Majesty's subjects thus :
" If you are hungry, or adry.
Or your stomach out of order,
Their's sure relief at the • Hound of Beef,'
For both these two disorders."
R. C. Wardjb.
Kidderminster.
''''Aqua in Vinum conversre. Vidit et erubuit lym^
pha pudica Deumr — The interesting note under
this title (Vol. vi., p. 358.) refers to Campbeirs
Toets. The following is an extract from Camp-
bell:
" Richard Crashaw there [Cambridge] published his
Latin poems, in one of which is the epigram from a
Scripture passage :
* Lympha pudica Deum vidit et erubuit.*^*
Campbell's Brit. Poets, ed. 1841, p. 198.
In the Poemata Anglontm Latina is the follow-
ing epigram on our Saviour's first miracle at the
marriage feast :
" Undc rubor vestris et ndn sua purpura lymphis,
Quae rosa mirantes tam nova mutat aquas ?
Numen (convivae) prtesens agnoscite numcn —
Vidit et erubuit nympha pudica Deum."
I presume this epigram is Crashaw's poem to
'wfaioh Campbell refers ; but query. Until I saw
the note in ^N. k QV* I fluj^tosed that the cele-
brated line —
" Lympha pudica Deum vidit et erubuit."
was the happy ex tempore produce of Dryden's
early genius, when a boy, at Westminster School.
If the epigram which I have copied is the original,
the last line is surely much improved by the (tra-
ditional) line which (jampbell.has recorded. Surely
lympha is preferable to nympha ; and surely the
order of the word erubuit ending the line is the
best. F. W. J.
Spurious Edition ofBaily's *^^ Annuities'* (Vol. iv.,
p. 19.). — In the place just referred to, I pointed
out how to distinguish the spurious edition, among
oilier marks, by uie title-page, I looked at a copy
on a stall a few days ago, and found tliat the title'
paee has been changed. Those who have re-
printed it have chosen the old title-page, which
stood in the work before two volumes were made
of it. A. De Mobgan.
" lllustrium Poetarum Flores,** — On leaving
London I thought of bringing with me two or
three pocket cuissics; unfortunately, in looking
for them, I picked up lllustrium Poetarum Flares
per Ociavianum Hfirandtdam olim diMecti, &c.,
Londini, 1651, and brought that little book with
me instead ; and, upon looking into it, I find it the
worst printed book I ever saw ; and I send you
this Note as to it, as a warning against so dis-
graceful a publication. Such a work, if w^U
executed and properly printed, would be a very
pleasant companion in a vacation ramble.
S. G. C.
French Jeux d^ Esprit, — In the spring of 1852,
when Prince Louis Napoleon was doing all he
could to secure the imperial crown, the following
hexameter line was passed from mouth to mouth
by theLegitinoates. I am inclined to think that it
never appeared in print :
" Napoleo cupit Imperium, indeque Gallia ridet.**
Which translated mot'd-mot gives a clever
double sense :
" Napol6on desire Tempire, et la France en rit
[Jfenri]."
J* H. z>E H.
SAMUEL WILSON.
I should be glad of any information respecting
Samuel Wilson, Esq., of Hatton Garden, in the
parish of St. Andrew, Holborn, whose will was
proved October 24, 1769, and which I have read.
He was the donor of the bequest, known al
" Wilson's Charity," to the Corporation of tlw
Sjept. 10. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
243
City of London, for loans to poor tradesmen. I
wish to ask, —
1. What is known of his origin, familj, personal
history, &c. ? ^
2. What was his precise degree of relationship
to the Halseys, whom he calls " cousins " in his
will ? Were they related to the family of that
name at Great Gaddesden, Herts ?
3. Did he publish any, and what, letters or
books ? for he leaves his MSS. of every kind to
his friend Richard Glover, Esq. (the poet I pre-
sume), with full power to collect any letters or
papers he may have already published, and also
to arrange and publish any more which he may
think intended or suitable for publication.
4. Is there any published sketch of his life ?
The only notice I have seen is the one of a few
lines in the GeniLemaiCs Magazine^ just after his
death.
In compliance with your excellent suggestion
(VoL vii., p. 2.}, I send my address in a stamped
envelope for any private communication which
may not interest the general reader. E. A. D.
The Rothwell Family. — When WiUiara Flower,
Esq., Norroy, confirmed the ancient arms of this
family to Stephen Rothwell, gent., of Ewerby,
county of Lincoln, on the 1st April, 1585, and
granted a crest (no such being found to his ancient
arms), the said Stephen Rothwell was statedto be
*' ex sui cognomir.is familia antiqua in comitatu
LancastriaB oriundus." Can any of the readers of
^^N. & Q." give any information respecting the
family from which he is stated to be descended ?
Glaius.
Definition of a Proverb. — Where can I find
the source whence I. D*Israeli took his definition
of a proverb, viz. " The wisdom of many and the
wit of one ?" C. Mansfield Inglebt.
Birmingham.
Latin Riddle. — Aulus Gellius {Nodes Atticce,
lib. XII. cap. vi.) proposes the following enigma,
which he terms " Per hercle antiquum, perque le-
pidum : "
" Semel minusne, an bis minus, non sat scio,
An utrumque eorum, ut quondam audivi dicier,
Jovi ipsi regi noluit concedere."
The answer he withholds for the usual reason,
" Ut legentium conjecturas in requirendo acuere-
mus."
Is there among the readers of " N. & Q." an
CEdipus who will furnish a solution ? R. Price.
St Ives.
D. Ferrand — French Patois. — Hallman, in the
7th chapter of his Poesie und Beredsamkeit der
Franzosen, gives several specimens of the French
provincial poets of the sixteenth century, and
among these the following from a poem on the dis-
persing of a meeting of Huguenots by the soldiers :
** Quand des guerriers fut la troupe entinchee
Non n'aleguet le dire du Prescheux,
Que pour souffrir Tame est de Dieu tombee,
Femme et Mary, comme le fianchee.
Four se sauver quitest leu zamoreux
En s'enfiant ocun n'avet envie,
De discourir de rEternelle vie,
Saiuct Pol estet en alieur guissement
No ne palet de Bible en Apostille
Qui en eut pale quand fut en un moment
Les pretendus grippez par la Soudrille.
" Le milleur fut quand la troupe enrang^e
Fut aux Fauxbourgs, hors de lieu perilleux.
Car tiel n'estet o combat qu'un Pygmee,
Qui se diset o milieu de stermee
S'estre monstre un gcant orgueilleux
Les femmes ossi disest ma socur, m'amie,
De tout su brit ie sis toute espamie.
Petit troupeau que tu as de tourment,
Pour supporter le faix de I'Evangile
Soufirira-t-on qu'un vaye impudemeat
Les pretendus grippez par la Soudrille.**
D. Ferrand, Inv. Gen., p. 304,
Hallman gives no farther inforfnation. I shall
be glad if any of your readers can tell me who
D- Ferrand was, what he wrote, and of what pro-
vince the above is the patois. B. Snow.
Birmingham.
" Fac precor, Jesu henigne^'' Sfc. — In the Sacra
Privaia, new edition, Bishop Wilson quotes the
following lines :
** Fac precor,
Jesu beuigne, cogitem
Ha^ semper, ut semper tibi
Summoque Patri^ gratias
Agam, pieque vos colam,
Totaque mente diligam."
Can any of your readers inform me where they
come from ? William Denton.
The Arms of De Sissonne, — Can any of your
correspondents inform me where I could find a
copy of Histoire Genealogique de la Maison Rotfole
de France^ or any other work in which are bla-
zoned the arms of " De Sissonne " of Normandy,
connected with that regal house ? J. L. S.
Sir George Brown, — Sir George Brown, of West
Stafford, Berks, and of Wickham Breaux, Kent,
married Eleanor, daughter of Sir R. Blount, of
Maple Durham, Oxon ; and by her had issue several
children, and amongst them one son Richard, who
was a diild under &ye years of age in 1623. I
shall feel obliged if any of your correspondents
can tell me where I can find a pedigree of this
Richard, and in particular whether he married.
244
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 202.
'wliom lie married, and tbe names of his several
children, if any. Kewbubiensis.
Professional Poems. — Can you tell me who is
the author of Professional Poems hy a Profes-
sional Gentleman, 12mo., 1827, published at Wol-
verhampton ; and by Longman, London ? Gw.
" A mockery^'* ^c. — Whence is the quotation,
** A mockery, a delusion, and a snare?** W. P.
Passage in Whiston, — In Taylor on Original
Sin^ Lond. 1746, p. 94., it is said :
" INIr. Whiston maintains that regeneration is a
literal and physical being born again, and is granted to
the faithful at the beginning of the millennium."
The marginal reference is, Whistoii on Ordinal
JSin, Sec, p. 68.
I cannot find the book or the doctrine in any
collection of Whiston's writings which I have met
with ; but as he was a copious writer and a ver-
satile theologian, both may exist. Can any reader
of « N. & Q.** tell me where to find them ? J. T.
Shoulder Knots and JBpaxdettes, — What is the
origin of the shoulder knot, and its ancient use ?
Has it and the epaulette a common origin ?
Getsbn.
The Yew Tree in Village Churchyards. — Why
did our forefathers choose the yew as the insepar-
able attendant upon the outer state of the churches
raised by them ? Apart from its grave and
fiombre appearance, I cannot help recognising a
mysterious embodiment of the spirit of evil as the
intention of the planters. We know that in all
mediaeval edifices there is an apparent and dis-
cernible endeavour to place in juxta-position the
spirits of good and evil, to materialise the idea of
an adversative spirit, antagonistic to the church's
teachings, and hurtful to her efforts of advance-
ment. I look upon the grotesque cephalic corbels
as one modification of this, and would interpret
many equally mysterious emblems by referring
them to the same actuating desire. Now the yew
is certainly the most deadly of indigenous pro-
ductions, and therefore would be chosen as the
representative of a spirit of destruction, the op-
posite to one that giveth life by its teachings, of
which the building itself is the sensible sign. I
crave more information from some learned eccle-
siologist on the subject, which is certainly a most
interesting one. R. C. Wabde.
Kidderminster.
Passage in Tennyson. —
" Or underneath the barren bush.
Flits by the blue sea-bird of March,^*
In Memoriam, xc. What bird is meant ?
W. T. M,
* Hong Kong.
" When the Maggot hites.^^ — A note will oblige
to explain the origin of the phrase, that a things
done on the spur of the moment is done *' Wheifc
the maggot bites.** AnoN.
Eclipses of the Sun. — Where can I find a list
of solar eclipses that have taken place since the
time of the invasion of Julius Csesar? I am
greatly in want of this information, and shall be
grateful to any correspondent who will give me
the reference required. C. Mansfieu) Ingubbt.
Birmingham.
"-/In" hefore "«*' long. — I should be much
obliged to any of my fellow-students of " N. & Q.**
who would answer the following Query: What
is the reason of the increasingly prevailing custom:
of writing an before words'beginning with u long^
or with diphthongs having the sound of u long ?
Surely a written language is perfect in proportion
as it represents the spoken tongue; if so, this is-
one of the many instances in which modern
fashions are making English orthography still*
more inconsistent than it was wont to be. It ap-
pears to me just as reasonable to say "an youthful
(pronounced yoothful) person,** as "an useful
(pronounced yoosefid) person.*'
If there is a satisfactory reason for the practice,.
I shall be delighted to be corrected ; but, if not, I
would fain see the fashion " nipped in the bud."
Benjamin Dawson*
London.
Reversible Names. — Some female names spell
backwards and forwards the same, as Hannah, AnnOy
Eve, Ada : so also does madam, which is feminine*
Is this in the nature of things, or can any one pro«
duce a reversible proprium quod maribus f No
arguments, but instances ; no surnames, which are
epicene ; no obsolete names, such as Odo, of which-
it may be suspected that they have died precisely
because an attempt was made to marify them : oc
say, rather, that Odo, to live masculine, was obliged
to become Otho. Failing instances, I shall main-
tain that varium et mutahile semper femina only
means that whatever reads bacKwards and for-
wards the same, is always feminine. M.
Gilbert White of Selbome. — Can any of the
correspondents of " N. & Q.** inform me whether
any portrait, painted, engraved, or sculptured,
exists of this celebrated naturalist ; and if so, a
reference to it will greatly oblige W. A. Lu
St. John's Square.
Hoby, Family of; their Portraits, ^c. — In the
parish church of Bisham, in the county of Berks,
are some fine and costly monuments to the me-
mory of several members of this family, who were
long resident in the old conventual building there.
Are there any engravings of these monuments f
Sept, 10. 18S3.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
And if ao, in what work ; or where are the in-
aoriptiona to be met with ? I possess two fine
engraved portraits of this fumily : the originals by
Hans Holbein are said to be in "His Majest/a
Collection;" whore are the originals now? Do
they still adorn the walls of Windsor Castle P The
cna is inscribed —
" Pliillip Mabbie, Knight,"
" The other —
" Tlie Lady Hobbie."
The orthography of the names is the same as
engraved on die portraits. The former was Sir
Philip Hoby, one of the Privy Council to King
Henry VIII. ; and the lady was, I believe, the
wife of Sir Thomas Hoby, of Leominster, co.
Herefoi-d, wlio died in 1596, aged thirty-six. Was
this the learned Lady Hoby, who wrote one of the
epitaphs above referred to ? Are there any other
portraits of members of this ancient, but now
extinct family, in existence ? They bore for arms,
" Arg. three spindles in fesse gules, threaded or."
What was their crest and motto f
J. B. Whitborne,
Portrait of Sir Anthony Wingjield. — Can any
person inform ine where the picture of Sir An-
thony Wingfield is, described in Horace Walpole's
Letterg, and which he saw in an old house in
SufTolfc belonging to t!ie family of Naunton, de-
-scended from Secretary Naunton, temp. James I. ;
" Sir Aiitliony WingfielJ, who, having Iiis hand
lucked Into his girdle, the housekeeper told us had lind
his fingers cut off by Henry VIII."
0-
(Henry I. for instance), there is contained a grant
of a toll called lofcopp, lufcopp, or hwcopp. Could
any of your correspondents give me any farther
information respecting tbe meaning of the word,
than is oontuned in the first volume of " H. & Q.,"
pp. 319,371.? J.CTW3.
Alitor fflurrictf fuftig aii^crtf.
Dr. Richard Sherlock. — Dr. Richard Sherlock,
afterwards Vicar of Winwick, had hia first cure in
Ireland, I should be glad to know where he offi-
ciated, and to receive any information respecting
him beyond what is met with in his nephew,
Bishop Wilson's, life of him. Wiu.iam Denton.
[A few additional notes have been added to Bishop
Wilios-s Life af Dr. Richard Slitrkcli, in the sevenili
edition, S vols. 1S4J-14. The editor, the Rev. H. H,
Sberlock, M. A., has the roHuwing note on his first
cure in Ireland: ••'WoaH(AiAen. Oxon., vol. iv, p. 259,
Blibs) leads us to suppose that Dr. Sherlock was or.
darned immediately after Uking his Master's degree,
and adds, that ' soon after he became minister of se-
veral small parishes in Ireland, united together, and
yielding no more than 80L a year.' The editor has not
been able to obtain any particulars of his ordination,
ror (lie names of the united parishes in Ireland where ,
he ministered. Canonicaliy, lie could not have been
ordained earlier than A. D. les?,"]
Cardinal Fleury and Bishop Wilion. — Ther«
exists a tradition to the effect that durin^a war
between thia country and France, CardinalFleury
gave directions to the French cruisers not to mo-
lest the Island of Man, and this out of regard to
the character of its apostolic bishop, WiSon. I
should be glad to know whether any and what
authority can be assigned for this story,
WiixiAM Denton.
[Tlie slory rests upon the authority of the Rev. C.
Cruttwell, the bishop's biographer and editor. The
following passage occurs in the Lift of Bhhgp Wilson,
vol,!, p. 226. ai his Worki, third edition, 8vo., 1784,
and in the folio eilition, p. 57. : — " Cardinal Fleury
wanted much to see him [the bishop], and sent over
— purpose to inquire after his ]--'-'
and I
: dale of b
s they „
e the
wo oldest bishops, and be believed the poorest, in
Europe ; at the same time inviting him to France.
The Bishop sent the CardiOQl an answer, irhich gave
him so high an opinion of him, tliat he obtained an
order that no French privateer should ravage the Isle
of Man." Feltham, in \iH Tour through the Ide of Man,
1798, aller quoting this story, adds, "And that the
French still respect a Manksman, some recent instances
Dr. Dodd a Dramatist, — I have aeen it some-
where stated, that after Dr. Dodd's trial, be sent
for Mr. Woodfail to consult him respecting the
publication of a comedy he bad written in his
South, entitled Sir Roger de Coverlet/, and which
e had actually revised and completed while ia
Newgate, Was it ever published ; and if Tiot,
where ia the MS. ? V. T. Stebnbbbs.
[Woodbll's interview with Dr. Dodd at the Old
Bailey, is given in Cooke's Memoirs of Samtiel Foote,
vol. L p, 195., and is quoted in Baker's Biographia
Dranuttiea, vol. iii. p, S78., edit. ISIZ. It appears
that Dodd's comedy was commenced in his earlier
days, and finished during his confinement in Newgate;
but was neither acted nor printed. In a pamphlet,
entitled Hislorical M^oin of the Life and Writinga of
the late Rev. William Dodd, published anonymously iu
1T77, but attributed to Mr. Reed, it ia stated at p. 4.,
that " Sir Soger de Coverley is now in the liandi of
Mr. Harris of Covent Garden Theatre,']
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 202.
S plied to lilie
atriiie P
Troncbs Hotel.
[The Mine TrOiflcha aigmfiea ill Gaelic the roi/ijft ot
Irillid ttrrUoryi a sIgniKcalion perfectly applicable (o
the confused mass of abrupt crags which, in some con-
vulsion of nature, has been scpatated from the ncich-
bouting mountains of Ben Vennu and Ben An. T^ia
hj Sir Walter Scott, in his poem of Tlie Lady of the
Xaic]
Quarter. — Whence comes the uae of the word
Quarter, as applied to sparing of life in battle ?
apecling these individuals, William Law, in a
letter written in reply to one received irom a
Mr, Stephen Pennj, speaks in the following terms r
" The traniUtors of Jacob Behmen, EllLstone and
hended Iheii
iithor
Troiichi Hotel.
[ A correspondent of the Gent. Mag., vol. Uv
Orlando, who bote this emblem on his !
called ' II CaTaliere del Quartiero ; ' though
thing singular that he won the ilevice f ~
Saracen chie£]
J. G. T.
iBtgIie«.
(Vol.viii., p. 13.)
Some farther particulars respecting the writings
of that remarkable cbaracter, who, according to
jonr correspondent, " led aatray William Law,
and through him tinctured the religious philoso-
phy of Coleridge, and from whom Schelling stole
the corner-stones of his Philosophy of iVohire,"
m^perhaps interest the readers of " N. & Q."
wto Bolime, or Behmen, was, may be seen by
■ reference to Francis Okely's Memoir of him,
and to the article in the Penng Cyelopadia (vol. t.
p. 61.) written by Dr. Bialloblotzky ; which, with
the exception of a few trifling errors, is carefully
compiled. The true character of hia philosophy
has Deen ably and fully described in the later
writings of William Law, especially in bis Anm-
adnertions o« Dr. Trapp (at the end ot An Appeal
At all thai Doubt or Disbelieve the Truth* of Bave-
htioti) ,' in The Wai/ to Dimne KaowMge ; The
^ril of Love ; his Letters ; and in the fragment
of a Dialogue, prefixed to the first of the four
volumes in 4to. of Behmen's Worhe.
Behmen's writings first became generally known
in this country bj translations of the moat im-
portant of them by a gentleman of the name of
Ellistone, and of minor ones by Mr. Humphrey
Blunden and others, Ellistone dying before he
had completed the translation of the great work
upon Geaeiia, it was continued by his cousin,
John Sparrow, a barrister in the Temple j who
also translated and published (he remainder of
Bebmen'a writings in the English language. Re-
places the KHSe ia mUlakw.'
" A new translator of Jacob Behmen is not to have
it in intention to make his authoc more intelligible by
softening or refining his language. His style is what
learning and skill In words, but because what he saw
or spoken of befbre i and therefore if he was to put it
down in writing, words must be used to signify that
which the; had never done before.
- If it shall please God that I undertake this work,
I rfiall only endeavour to make Jacob Behmen speak
as he would have spoken, had he wrote in EngliA.
Secondly, to guard the reader at certain places from
wrong apprehensions of his meaning, by adding hoe
and. there a note, as occasion requires. Third ly, and
ehtelly, by Prefaces or Iiilrodiietions to prepare and
direct the reader in the true use of these writings.
This last is most of all necessary, and yet vould be n>-
lirely needless, if the reader would but observe Jacob
Behmen's own directions. For there is not an error,
defect, or wrong turn, which the reader can bli into,
in the use of these booiis, but is most plainly set before
him by Jacob Behmen.
" Many persons of learning in the last century read
Jacob Behmen with great earnestness ; but it was only,
as it were, to steal from him certain mysteries of
Nature, and lo tun away with the philosopher's !lone ;
and yet nowhere could they see the foliy and impos-
sibility of their attempt so full; shown them, as by
Jacob Behmen himself."
quarto English treatises of Behmen.
The four-volume edition of Jacob Behmen's
Worii, in large 4to., 1764-81, is an unsatisfactory
performance ; having, in fact, nothing in common
with the projected edition by William Law, aa
expressed in the above letter, Nevertheless, it
has been useful in many respects; especially as
being instrumental in making the productions of
Dion. Andreas Freber more generally known.
This edition, moreover, is incomplete; as several
important treatises, besides bis Letters, are en-
tirely omitted. The order, too, in which the pieces
are inserted from the Book of the Incarnation is
altogether wrong.
It is
1, but
uppojil
I, that
William Law was the editor of this edition. From
his work, 77ie Wa>/ lo Divine Knowledge, printed
some years after the date of the letter quoted
Sept. 10. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
247
above, it appears that he intended to publish a
new and correct translation of Beh men's Works ;
but did not survive to accomplish it. He died in
1761, before the first of the four volumes was
published ; and if he were in any way identified
with it, it could only be by some one or two of his
corrections (found in hb own copy of the Works
after his decease) being incorporated therein ; but
of this there is some uncertainty. The Symbols,
or Emblems, which are stated in the title-page of
this edition to have been " left by Mr. Law,*' were
not his production, but merely copies of the
originals themselves. These were all designed by
the above Dionysius Andreas Freher, a learned
German, who had resided in this country from
about the year 1695 till his death in 1728, in
illustration of his own systematic elucidations of
the ground and principles of the central philo-
sophy of Deity and Nature, opened as a new
original, and final revelation from Grod^ in " his
chosen instrument, Behmen." It was, I believe,
from Freher, that Francis Lee (see " N. & Q,"
Vol. ii., p. 355.) became so deeply versed in the
scope and design of high supersensual and mys-
tical truth. From the year 1740, Freher, by his
writings, demonstrations and diagrams, may be
considered the closet-tutor of William Law at his
philosophical retreat at King's Clifie, in respect to
the great mysteries of Truth and Nature, the
origin and constitution of things, glanced at in
what are populjurly called Law's later or mystical
writings.
Next to Behmen's Works, and coupled with
those of Law, Freher's writings and illustrations
must, in regard to theosophical science, be con-
sidered the most valuable and important in exist-
ence. Freher also was personally acquainted with
Gichtel, who was deeply imbued with the philo-
sophy of Jacob Behmen, viz. " the fundamental open-
ing of all the powers that work both in Nature and
Grace ,*" and who, perhaps more than any other in-
dividual, experimentally lived and fathomed it.
Freher's original manuscripts and copies of
others (besides those formerly in the possession of
William Law), as well as the manuscripts of Law
and of Francis Lee, and some original documents
relating to the Philadelphian mystic author, Mrs.
Jane Lead (Lee's mother-in-law), are now in the
possession of Mr. Christopher Walton, of Ludgate
Street ; who, I understand, is on the eve of com-
pleting, for private circulation, a voluminous ac-
count of these celebrated individuals. It will also
contain, if I am correctly informed, a represent-
ation of the whole nature and scope of mystical
divinity and theosophical science, as apprehensible
from an orthodox evangelical — or, in a word, a
standard point of view ; as likewise of the nature
and relations of the modern experimental tran-
scendentalism of Animal Magnetism, with its in-
ductions of the trance and ckarvoyance, in respect
to the astral as well as Divine magic ; with other
similar recondite, but now lost, philosophy. But
to return to Behmen.
The publication of the large edition of his
Works in question was undertaken at the sole
expense of Mrs. Hutcheson, one of the two ladies
who were Mr. Law's companions and friends in
his retirement at King's Clifie, out of respect to
his memory ; and who furnished the books Mr.
Law left behind him relating to this object. The
chief editor was a Mr. George Ward, assisted by
a Mr. Thomas Langcake, two former friends
and admirers of Law ; who occasionally superin-
tended his pieces through the press, being then
resident in London. And the reason of this edi^
tion not being completed was, that both Mrs.
Hutcheson and Mr. Ward died about the time of
the publication of the fourth volume ; Mrs. Gib-
bon*, the aunt of the historian, it appears, not
being willing to continue the publication. All
that these parties did as editors was, to take the-
original translations, change the phraseology here
and there without reference to the German ori-
ginal (which language it is supposed they did not
understand), omit certain portions of the trans^
lator's Prefaces, alter the capital letters of a few
words, and conduct the treatises .through the press.
The literary productions which have com-
manded the admiration and approbation of such
deep thinkers as Sir Isaac Newtonf, William Law,.
Schelling, Hegel, and Coleridge, may perhaps,
before long, be thought worthy of republication.
What is required is a well-edited and correct
translation of Behmen's entire Works, coupled with
* Among the papers of this lady were found, after
her decease, several letters to her from her nephew,
Edward Gibbon, the historian, and his friend Lord
Sheffield, from which it would appear that the re-
ligious views of the former had, at least from the year
1788, undergone considerable change. From one of
these interesting letters, shortly to be published, I
have been kindly permitted to make the following
extract : — " Whatever you may have been told of my
opinions, I can assure you with truth, that I consider
religion as the best guide of youth, and the best sup-
port of old age ; that I (irmly believe there is less real
happiness in the business and pleasures of the world',
than in the life which you have chosen of devotion and
retirement."
f William Law, in the Appendix to the second edi-
tion of his Appeal to all that Dovht or Disbelieve the .
Truths of the Gospel^ p. 314., 1756, mentions that
among the papers of Newton (now in Trinity College,
Cambridge) were found many autograph extracts from
the Works of Behmen. This is also confirmed in an
unpublished letter, now before me, from Law to Dr.
Cheyne in answer to his inquiries on this point. Law
affirms that Newton derived his system of fundamental
powers from Behmen ; and that he avoided menticNi-
ing Behmen as the originator of his system, lest it
should come into disrepute.
248
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 202.
those of Freher, his great illustrator, (includ-
ing also the Emblems, &c. of Gichters German
edition), and preceded by those of Law, which
treat upon the same subject, namely: — 1. Answer
to Hoadley on the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper.
2. Christian Kegeneration. 3. Animadversions on
Dr. Trapp. 4. The Appeal. 5. The Way to Di-
vine Knowledge. 6. The Spirit of Love. 7. Con-
futation of Warburton. 8. Letters.
To conclude. The following are the terms in
•^hich William Law speaks of Behmen's writings
■in one of his letters :
** Therein is opened the true ground of the un-
- changeable distinction between God and Nature, making
all nature, whether temporal or eternal, its own proof
that it is not, cannot be, God, but purely and solely
the want of God ; and can be nothing else in itself but
a restless painful want, till a supernatural God mani«
fests himself in it. This is a doctrine which the learned
of all ages have known nothing of; not a book, ancient
or modern, in all our libraries, has so much as at-
tempted to open the ground of nature to show its birth
and state, and its essential unalterable distinction from
the one abyssal supernatural God; and how all the
glories, powers, and perfections of the hidden, unap-
proachable God, have their wonderful manifestation in
nature and creature."
And on another occasion :
** In the Revelation made to this wonderful man, the
first beginning of all things in eternity is opened ; the
whole state, the rise, workings, and progress of all Nature
is revealed ; and every doctrine, mystery, and precept
of the Gospel is found, not to have sprung from any
arbitrary appointment, but to have its eternal, unalterable
ground and reason in Nature. And God appears to
save us by the methods of the Gospel, because there
was no other possible way to save us in all the possi-
bility of Nature."
And again :
** Now, though the difference between God and
Nature has always been supposed and believed, yet the
true ground of such distinction, or the why, the how,
and in what they are essentially different, and must be
so to all eternity, was to be found in no books, till the
goodness of God, in a way not less than that of miracle,
made a poor illiterate man, in the simplicity of a child,
to open and relate the deep mysterious ground of all
things,**
Thus much upon the " reveries " of our " poor
possessed cobbler." It may be well to add, that
Freher's writings (in sequence to those of Law
above named) are all but essential for the proper
understanding of Behmen, especially of his descrip-
tions of the generation of Nature, as to its seven
properties, two co-eternal principles, and three
constituent parts : which is the deepest and most
difficult point of all others to apprehend rightly
(that is, with intellectual clearness, as well as
sensitively in our own spiritual regeneration),
and indeed the key to every mystery of truth and
life. J. Yeowell.
Hoxton.
INSCRIPTIONS ON BELLS.
(Vol. vi., p. 554. ; Vol. vii., pp. 454. 633. ;
Vol. viii., p. 108.)
Himbleton, "Worcestershire :
1. " Jesus be our GoD-speed. 1675."
2. " All prayse and glory be to Gou for ever. 1675."
3. " John Martin of Worcester, he made wee ;
Be it known to all that do wee see. 1675."
4. " All you that hear my roaring sound.
Repent before you lie in ground. 1675.**
Hanley Castle, Worcestershire :
1. ** Ring vs trve.
We praise you. a.r. 1699."
2. " God prosper all our benefactors, a.r. 1699."
3. " God save y« King.
Abr» Rudhall cast vs all. 1699."
4. " God save y« King and y" Chvrch. 1699."
5. «* Abr» Rudhall cast vs all. 1699."
6. " Jas. Badger, minister. Rd. Ross, Gorle Chetle,
C. W. 1699."
From the ten bells of St. Thomas*s Church,
Dudley (rebuilt 1816), the following are the most
remarkable :
5. " William, Viscount Dudley and Ward ;
To doomsday may the name descend—-
Dudley, and the poor man's friend."*
6. " Ring and bid thee cry Georgius Rex III., Eng-
land, thy Sovereign's name. God save the
King. T. Mean of London, 1818."
Of the eight bells in St. Mary's Church, Kidder-
minster, the following are the inscriptions on the
first five :
1. " When you us ring
We'll sweetly sing. 1754."
2. « The gift of the Rt. Hon. Lord Foley. 1754."
3. «« Fear God and honour the King. 1754."
4. " Peace and good neighbourhood. 1754."
5. ** Prosperity to this parish and trade. 1754."
There is a small bell (dated 1780) which is com-
monly called the " Ting-tang," and is rung for the
last five minutes before each service, which bears
the appropriate inscription :
" Come away.
Make no delay."
* The worthy nobleman's sobriquet must not be eon«
founded with a popular ointment.
Sept. 10. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
249
On one of the bells of Burford Church, near
Tenbury, is the following inscription :
<< At service-time I sound,
And at the death of men ;
To serve your God, aud well to die.
Remember then.**
The inscriptions on the bells of St. Helen's
Church, Worcester, are very singular ; the names
they bear tell their date :
1. ** Blenheim.
First is my note, and Blenheim is my name ;
For BIenheim*s story will be first in fame."
2. ** Barcelona.
Let me relate how Louis did bemoan
His grandson Philip's flight from Barcelon."
3. *' Ramilies,
Deluged in blood, I, Ramilies, advance
Britannia's glory in the fall of France."
4. " Menin.
Let Menin on my sides engraven be.
And Flanders freed from Gallic slavery."
5. '* Turin,
When in harmonious peal I roundly go.
Think on Turin, and triumph of the Fo."
6. ** Eugene,
With joy I bear illustrious Eugene's name,
Fav'rite of Fortune, and the boast of fame."
7. ^* Marlborough.
But I, with pride, the greater Marlborough bear.
Terror of tyrants, and the soul of war."
8. " Queen Ann.
Th' immortal praises of Queen Ann I sound ;
With union blest, and all these glories crown'd."
In Clifton-on-Teme Church (dedicated to St.
Kenelm) are the two following bell-inscriptions,
the second of which appears to contain a date :
** Per Kenelmi merita sit nobis coelica vita."
« HenrlCVs leffreyes KeneLMo DeVoVIt."
The following are from the six bells of Kinver
Church, Worcestershire :
1. *< In Christo solo spem meamrepono. a.r. 1746."
2. " Cui Deus pater ecclesia est mater. a.r. 1746."
3. " In suo templo numen adoro. a.r. 1746."
4. ** We were all cast at Gloucester by Abel Rudhall,
1746. Fac manus puras ccelo attoUas."
5. " Jos. Lye and John Lowe, churchwardens,
A. R. 1 746. Opem petentibus subvenit Deus."
6. " W" Gosnell and Sam, Brown, churchwardens.
John Rudhall /ec*. 1790."
CUTHBEBT BeDE, B.A.
PASSAGE IN MILTON.
<* And every shepherd tells his tale
Under the hawthorn, in the dale."
I have read with interest the " !N'otes " (Vol. i.,
pp. 286. 316.) on these lines of the Allegro ; be-
cause, in spite of early prepossession in favour of
the idea commonly attached to them, I was con-
verted, some years ago, by the late Mr. Constable,
R.A., whose close observation of rural scenery
and employments no one can question.
His account of the matter was this :
^* It is usual in Suffolk, and I have seen it often my-
self, for the shepherd, assisted by another man or boy,
to make the whole flock pass through a gap, in order
to facilitate the tale. One fellow drives them through
the opening by moving about, shouting, and clapping
his hands, while his comrade, on the other side of the
hedge, and under cover of a thorn or other thick busb»
counts them as they leap through. I have not only
seen but assisted, when a boy, at the shepherd's tale ;
and I do believe Milton had no other idea in his mind.
For, indeed, the early morning is not the time the
poets choose for lovers to woo, or maids to listen ; and
Milton has described a scene where all were up and
stirring. Neither is the word 'every* appropriate,
according to the common interpretation of the passage ;
every shepherd would not woo on the same spot ; but
that spot might be particularly favourable for making
the tale of his sheep."
Your correspondent J. M. M. adduces an argu-
ment in favour of the romantic versus the pastoral,
which seems to me entirely devoid of weight. He
thinks that Handers " ' Let me wander * breathes
the shepherd's tale of love.*' Surely there is more
imagination than truth in this. There is a series
of images in the words of that song : it was neces-
sary, unless the^ music varied unreasonably to suit
them all, to choose a pleasing, but not very signi-
ficant, melody, and, above all, to make the close of
it a fit introduction for the " merry bells,'* and
"jocund Rebecs," which burst in immediately
after. I confess I find nothing of the amatory
style in Handel's setting of the two disputed lines.
BLe chose the Pastorale or f time, as for "He shall
feed his flock," " O lovely Peace," &c. But were
it so, I could not admit Handel as an authority,
because, as a foreigner, and an inhabitant of towns,
he could not possibly be conversant with the rural
customs of England. S. B.
DESIGNED FALSE ENGLISH BHTMES.
(Vol. vii., p. 483.)
I was much surprised to see in your paper such
a lengthened defence of Irish rhymes by a reference
to those of English poets, and particularly to Pope.
I thought it was well known that he, at last, be-
came sensible of the cloying efiect of his never-vary-
ing melody, and sought to relieve it by deviations
«50 NOTES AND QUERIES. [No. 202.
from propriety. Thia is porticQliirlj reniRrkable in Hud the quotation been correct, it Toald have
his Homer, irfaere he has numerous Irish rhymes been better seen that I no more make the day o.^
"peace" and "race;" beaides "war" and majoritv begin a minute after midDieht, than I
;" "far," "dare;" with many other slill more iiinke the daj of birth end a minnte before mid-
barbaroua metres. But all those were by regular night. A second, or even the tenth of a second,
design : for, if ever poet "lisped in numbers," it would have done as well.
was he; and "the numbers came" at his command. The old reckoniag, of which I was speaking, was
He introduced those uncouth rhymes to somewhat the reckoning which rejects fractions ; and the mftt-
roTighen his too Ions continued melody, just as ter in question was the day. For my illustration,
certain discords are allowed in great musical com- any beginning of the day would have done as well
positions. It showed good judgment, for they are as any other ; on this I must refer to the paper
an agreeable change by variation. Other English itself Nevertheless, I was correct in implying
poets too have false rhymes: for even Gray, in his that the day by which age is reckoned begins at
celebrated Elegy, has "toil" and "smile;" "abode" midnight ; and I believe it began at midnight in
and "God." the time of Ben Jonson. The law recognised, two
But, with respect to Irish poets, Swifi should kinds of days ; — the natural day of twenty-four
not have been mentioned at all ; because, with hours, the artificial day from suorise to sunset,
perhaps the exception of his " Cadenus and Va- The birthday, and with it the day of majority,
nesaa, his poetry was of the doggerel kind ; and would needs be the natural day; for otherwise
he purposely used Irish rhymes and debased a child not born by daylight would have no birth-
EngUah. Thus, in the " Lady s Dressing-room ; " day at all. I cannot make out that the law ever
" Five houn, .nd -■ho could *> it len in ? recoBmsed a day of twenty-four hours beginning at
By haughty Cffilis spent in dressbg." ^"7 "O"'" except midnight. For payment of rent,
__„ . , , . , , the artificial day was recognised, and the tenant
yiU any one say it was through .goorance that he ^^ renuired to tender at such time before sunset as
did iwt sound the g m dressing P Pope, m his ^^^m leave the landlord time to count the money
"EloisatoAbelai-d, which is sweetness to atcess, ^y daylight ; a reasonable provision, when we
concludes with : tl,i„t upon the vast number of different ooins
" He best can paint 'em who haa felt 'em mort." which were legal tender. But even here it seems
Why this is a downright vulgarism compared' to *<> hive been held that though the landlord might
Swift's open and undisguised doggerel : enter at sunset, the forfeiture could not; be en-
" Libtrtaj il nalak solvm ■ forced if the rent were paid befbre midnight. A
Fine word! ! I wonder where you rtole 'em " legal friend suggested to me that perhaps Ben
_ .c.-n. n, ■ ■,■-.' Jonson bad more experienceof the terminus of the
Leaving Swift out of the question, Irish poets d„ ^ between landlord and tenant, than of that
aie much more careful about their rhymes than „i,icb emancipates a minor. This would not have
Uie English ; because they know that what wodd „,„^t me : but a lawyer views man simply as tie
be excused or overlooked in them, would be ^ ^^ jient in ^stress, ejectment, w uiar-
deemed ignorance on their own parts. I venture j^n/j, jjc.
J? ^^^. i**^ '•'^'^ *^® T"? *^'^ rhymes ia ^.'e. g. twice makes the question refer to
Pope a fi';'^/l'>''e than in all the poems of Gold- „i,ereas I was describing faio. If I were
smith and Moore together ; thouA I must aaam ^s well up in the drama oa I aSould like to be, I
observe that those of Pope were ^ intentionJ. „i^t perhaps find a modern plot which turns
A. B. C, upon a minor coming of age, in which the first
day of majority ia what is commonly called the
ATTAHMEiiT OF MAJORiTf. birthday, instead of, as it ought to be, the day
fV I ■■■ ino \ before. Writers of fiction have in all times had
(V0I.V111., p. 198.) fictitious law. If we took decisions from the
A. E. B. has not quotedquite correctlj^. He has novelists of our own day, we should learn, among
put two phrases of mine into Italics, which makes other things, that married women can in all cir-
them appear to have special relation to one another, cumstanccs make valid wills, and that the destruc-
while the word which / put in Italics, " nailh" be tion of the parchment and ink which compose the
has made to be " 9lh." Farther, he has left out material of a deed is also the destruction of all
some words. The latter part should run thus, Ihe power to claim under it.
words left out being in brackets : Singularly enough, this is the second case in
"... though he were born [a minute before mid- "hich my papor on reckoning has been both mis-
ni^t] on the 10th, he is of age lo execnte a settlement quoted and misapprehended in "N. & Q." My
at s minute after midnight on the morning of Ihe 9th, knowledge of the existence of this periodical began
forty-eight hours all but two minutes befbre he has with a copy of No. 7. (cont^ning p. 107., Vol. i.),
drawn breath fiir Ihe space of twenty-one jears." forwarded to me by the courtesy of the Editor, on
Sept. 10. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
25^1
account of a Query signed (not A. E. B. but) B.,
affirming that I had '^ discovered a flaw in the
great Johnson ! " Now it happened that the flaw
was described, even in B.*s own quotation from
me, as "certainly not Johnson's mistake, for he was
a clear-headed arithmetician." B. gave me half a
year to answer ; and then, no answer appearing,
privately forwarded the printed Query, with a
request to know whether the readers of " N. & Q."
were not of a class sufficiently intelligent to appre-
ciate a defence from me. The fact was, tnat I
thought them too intelligent to need it, after the
correction (by B. himsen, in p. 127.) of the mis-
quotation. It is not in letters as in law, that
judgment must be signed for the plain tifl* if the
defendant do not appear. There is also an ano-
nymous octavo tract, mostly directed, or at least
. (so far as I have read) much directed, against the
arguments of the same article, and containing mis-
apprehensions of a similar kind. That my unfor-
tunate article should be so misunderstood in three
distinct quarters, is, I am afraid, sufficient pre-
sumption against its clearness ; and shows me that
obscurus fio is, as much as ever, the attendant of
hrevis esse hhoro : but I am still fully persuaded
of the truth of the conclusions. A. De Mobgan.
LADT PBBCT, WIFE OP HOTSPUR (dAUGHTEB OP
EDMUND MORTIMER, EARL OP MARCH), AND
/ANE SETMOUR's ROTAL DESCENT.
(Vol. vii., p. 42. ; Vol. viii., pp. 104. 184.)
The mischief that arises from apparently the
most trifling inaccuracy in a statement of fact is
scarcely to be estimated. A mistake is repeated,
multiplied, and perpetuated often to an extent
that no after rectification can thoroughly eflace.
Blunders even become sacred by antiquity; and
the attempt to correct any misstatement, if it does
not entirely fail through the subsequent destruc-
tion of evidence that would have contained the
refutation, is frequently received with a coldness
and suspicion, and can seldom, with every aid from
undoubted sources, be brought to prevail against
the more familiar and preconceived impression.
An illustration of this may be seen in the refer-
ence made by your correspondent C. V. to the
authority of Dugdale, as overriding the result of
later investigations relative to the issue respec-
tively of the fifth and seventh Lords Clifford of
Westmoreland. The loose and ill-advised asser-
tion of Miss Strickland, intended as it clearly was
to insinuate a mean origin in Jane Seymour, and
to lessen her pretension to an exalted birth, has
fortunately received a most complete and signal
disproof; but a question is now raised, which, if
it can be supported, will suit Miss Strickland's
view quite as well as her own inconclusive state-
ment. I cannot but think that what she wished
to say is, as hinted in the suggestion of C. V., that
the claim contended £[)r cannot be supported
through the alleged marriage of a Wentworth with
the descendant of Elizabeth Percy, because Eliza-
beth, Lady Percy's only daughter, Ladjr Elizabeth
de Percy, who married John, Lord Clifford, is by
some ancient heralds stated to have left no daugh-
ter. This would have been an intelligible asser-
tion, and not entirely inconsistent with what may
be gathered from peerages, and other works com-
piled solely upon the authority of Dugdale ; and
it is indeed the very point of difficulty contem-
plated by your learned correspondent C. V., who,,
if I do not mistake the signature, is himself an
authority entitled to much respect.
Dugdale, Collins, and Nicolas make the inter-
marriage of Wentworth to have taken place with
a daughter of Roger, fifth Lord Clifford; and
Dugdale and Collins are silent as to any female
issue of John, the seventh Lord. Edmondson
(JBaronagium Genecdogicum, vol. iv. p. 364.)
adopts the same conclusion ; but no higher autho-
rity is cited by any one of the above writers, upon
which to found this statement. On the other
hand, both Collins and Edmondson, in the Went-
worth pedigree, show the marriage of Sir Philip
Wentworth, of Nettlested, to have taken place
with a daughter of John, seventh Lord Clifford.
Edmondson describes the daughter as EUzaheth ;
but Collins more accurately calls her Mary^
Banks {^aronage^ vol. ii. p. 90.) gives both state-
ments with an asterisk, implying a doubt as to
which of the two is to be accepted.
The Pembroke MS. contains a summary of the
lives of the Veteriponts, Cliffords, and the Earls
of Cumberland, compiled from original documents
and family records for the celebrated Lady Anne
Countess Dowager of Pembroke, daughter and
sole heir of George Clifford, Earl of Cumberland,
who died in 1605. This valuable collection gives
the most minute particulars and anecdotes con-
nected with the ancient family of the Lords
Clifford and their descendants, and being a few
years anterior in date to the publication of Dug-
dale's Baronage^ the information contained there
is entitled to the greatest possible weight as an
original and independent authority.
In this MS. (a copy of which is in the Britidb
Museum, Harl. 6177.) the descendants of Roger,
fifth Lord Clifford, are named, but there is no
mention of any daughter who formed an alliance
with a Wentworth. Afterwards come the issue of
the marriage of John, seventh Lord Clifford, with
Elizabeth Percy, the only daughter of Henry
Lord Percy, surnamed Hotspur, son to Henry
Earl of Northumberland.
** This Elizabeth Percy was one of the greatest
women of her time, both for her birth and her mar-
riages, &c. Their eldest son, Thomas de Clifibrd,
succeeded his fiither both in his lands and honours, &e.
362
KOTES AND QUER1E&
[No. 202.
Henri^, tbeir aKOnil son, dUd nithout iisue, but ii
Miry Clifford, nuiried to Sir Phiiip Wentworth, Kt„
of whom deicended the Lords Wentvorth that are
nov livin);, and Hie Earl of SlrnlTord, and tlie Earl of
Cleieland."
To which nfthc above Btfttements must we give
flredit? If Dugdale be right, there will appear a
fltartling discrepance in the agC9 of the two persona
who are presumed to have formed the alliance in
Jueation ; whereas if the fillntion given in the
emhroke MS. Is relied upon, their ages will be
quite consistent, and all the other circumstances
perfectlj in accordance.
Roger, fifth Lord Cliffonl, wna horn and bap-
tiied at Brou!(ham on the 20Lh of July, 7 Edw. III.,
1333 ; his eldest son Thomns, sixth lord, was born
(area 1363, being twenty-six yenrs old at his
father's death, which huppenc<l on 13th July,
1389, in the Jiily-sixth year of his age. Thomas
Lord Clifford died on 4th of October, 1392,
leaving his son and heir John (seventh Lord
Clifibrd) on infant of about three years old.
This lord married the Lady Elizabeth de Percy
<sirca 1413, and his eldest sou was born on 20th of
August, 1414 : he died on 13th March, 1422.
The wife of Sir Philip Wentworth, were she a
daughter of Roger, fifth Lord Clifibrd, must have
been born between 1363 and 1389 ; if a dau^hter
of John, seventh Lord Clifford, she must have
been born between 1414 and 1422.
In my former note, it was shown that the father
and mother of Sir Philip Wcntworth were married
before June, 1423 j that Sir Philip was boi-n circa
1424, and married In 1447; and that his eldest
son, Henry Wentworth, being thirty years of age
at his grnndmothcr's denth in 1476, must hare
been born circa 1448. It is therefore clear, that
if his wife, Mary de Clifford, wei-e a daughter of
the fitlh Lord Clifibrd, she could not have been
less than thirty-five years older than her husband,
and sLity years old when her eldest son was born.
On the other supposition, she may have been
about the same lige with her husband, or perhaps
two or three years only hia senior.
Can there then be any longer a doubt that this
is a mistake of Dugiiale ? The other eminent
genealogists, cited by your correspondent, have
adopted the statement witliout farther investiga-
tion and upon no better authority, and the error
has thus become familiarised by constant repeti-
tion. Had the misrepresentation been set right
in the first instance, your readers would have
been spared the infliction of this lengthy confu-
tation ; Miss Strickland herself protected from
the humiliation of a defeat, '* in daring to dispute
a pedigree with King Henry VIII. ;" and some of
tlie numerous living descendants of the Protector
Somerset been saved from much concern at find-
ing a pedigree demolished, through which they
had been wont to cherish the harroless vanity of
being allied to tha honour of a royal lineage.
W. H.
Three Nem Processes iy Mr. Lyle, — Will you
kindly allow me room in your pages for llie In-
of the fullowlng three processes, which may
combination with which to excite collodion. The
second Is on the subject of a capital develomng
agent, and, I believe, a partially new one. The
third, a certain improvement In the production of
positives on albumen paper.
To make my collodion, I use the Swedish fil-
tering psper, as recommended by the Count de
MontJzon, Mr. Crookes, &c., not so much on ac-
count of its superior properties, as the easier ma-
nipulation, and the greater certainty of ohtaininft
a completely soluble substance. IIavin« obtiuncd
a clear and tolerably thick collodion, take
Rectified spirits of wine - - - . 1 ot.
Iodide of ammonium ... 45 grs.
Bromide of ammonium - • - 12 grs.
Chloride of ammonium - - - 1 gr.
Iodide of silver, freshly precipitated from the am-
moniated nitrate, as much as the solution thus
produced will take up — a small excess, which wilt
settle at the bottom, will not signify. Nearly the
same compound, one which Is equally good, is
produced as follows. Take
Rectified spirits of wine - - - I oz.
Iodide of ammonium - - - SO grs.
Bromide of ammonium - - - 12 grs.
Chloride of silver - - - - 5 gra.
Whichever of these two sensitizers is used, take
1^ drachma, and add to every ounce of the collo-
Collodion thus prepared is moat rapid In ita
action, friving a deep negative (with Ross's sixteen
giunea lens, and the developing agent I shall here-
after describe) in ten seconds in cleni' weather,
and Instantaneous positive pictures, which may be
afterwards darkened with the solution of ter-
chlorlde of gold, in chloride of ammonium. It
does not easily solarize, and, what is best of all,
gives the most pleasing half-tones.
I find it preferable, in taking landscapes, to
rather increase the quantity of the iodide of am-
monium, in order to give complete opacity to the
sky J but if the operator pleases, be may produce
the most admirable effect with the above-named
proportions, by painting in clouds at the back of
the plate with Indian ink : and this latter i>1an ia
[ireferable, as the addition of more of the iodlds
Dwere the half-tones.
Sept. 10. 1853.]
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253
If more of the chloride than above specified be
added, it will cause the plate to blacken all over
during development, before the extreme lights are
fully brought up.
My developing agent is made as follows. Take
Distilled water - - - - 10 oz.
Pyrogallic acid - - - - 6 grs.
Formic acid - - - - - 1 oz.
The latter is not to be the concentrated acid, but
merely the commercial strength. These, when
mixed, form so powerful a developing agent, that
the picture is brought out in its full intensity,
almost instantly, while at the same time all the
deep shades ai*e quite unaffected, and the half-
tones come out with a brilliancy I have never
seen before.
Another excellent developing agent is composed
as follows. Take
Distilled water -
Sulphuric acid -
Protosulphate of iron -
Formic acid
- 10 oz.
- 3 drops.
i oz.
- 1 oz.
-
6
oz.
M
6
oz.
-
n
dr.
The formic acid is also a most capital addition to
the protonitrate of iron, and either this or the
former liquid produce most brilliant positives,
leaving a fine coating of white dead silver. I may
also make mention of the improvement I have
made in the albumen paper, which consists in the
introduction of the chloride of barium into the albu-
men, in place of chloride of ammonium or chloride
of sodium. Take
Water -----
Albumen - - - -
Chloride of barium
Whip these up, till they are converted entirely
into a white froth ; when this has settled into a
liquid, pour it into a tall jar, and allow the pre-
cipitate, which will then separate, to settle com-
pletely, and strain the supernatant liquid through
fine muslin. The paper, being laid on the surface
of this fluid for a space of from five to ten mi-
nutes, may be taken oflf and hung up by a crooked
pin to dry, and then ironed. It is to be sensitized
with nitrate of silver, 120 grains to the ounce of
water. The setting liquid I use is prepared ac-
cording to the formula given by me in Vol. vii.,
p. 534. of your journal, except that I prefer to
use half to one grain of pyrogallic acid, and 1*20
grains of chloride of silver. This paper must be
soaked for a few minutes or so in rain water, after
being printed, before being placed in the hypo. ;
the presence in the water of any salt seems to de-
stroy the tone of this paper.
Florian, Torquay.
MuUer's Processes — SissorCs Developing Solu'
Hon, — I am glad to find that I have called the
attention of your photographic correspondents to
Mr. Muller's process, as detailed in TheAthenceum
of Nov. 22, 1851, which seems to have been
strangely overlooked and neglected. As your
correspondents have induced you to reprint the
article, perhaps you will also yield to my request,
and reprint an article from the same journal of
later date (Jan. 10, 1852) containing another
process, more economical and more sensitive than
the other, invented also by Mr. Muller, and the
value of which I have proved. In that, as in the
other, there is no developing agent required. Ta
save time I have copied from my note-book the
article itself, and append it to this communica*
tion.
A photographer of several years' standing in-
forms me that my developing solution produces
excellent negatives upon glass, and that he has
been trying it as a bath with success. He writes
me : — "I use your developing solution for nega-
tives only ; and by using a very small openings
say about y^^ths of an inch diameter, single achro-
matic lens, I have produced negatives in one
minute, which print most beautiful bright positives.
The views I have taken and developed with your
solution were without sunshine, the sky very
cloudy, three o'clock p.m. The collodion was pre--
pared by Messrs. Knight & Son."
Since I received his letter I have tried a nega-
tive so developed, with the best success; and I
attribute the success to the fact that you may go
on developing with that solution any length of
time almost, without any fear of spoiling the
negative, thus getting thickness of deposit ; and
that the deposit on pictures taking so long a time
to develop has a very perceptible yellow tinge,
which, like the gold in Professor Maconochie's
method (detailed in Photographic Journal for this
month), stops the chemical rays.
J. Lawson Sisson»
Edingthorpe Rectory.
" Patna, India, Nov. 9, 1851.
*' Plain paper is floated on a bath of aceto-
nitrate of silver, prepared of 25 grs. of nitrate of
silver, 1 fluid oz. of water, 60 minims of strong
acetic acid. When well moistened on one side,
the paper is removed, and lightly dried with blot-
ting-paper ; it is then placed with the prepared side
downwards on the surface of a bath of hydriodate
of iron (8 grs. of the iodide in 1 oz. of water). It
is not allowed to remain on this solution, for if this
were the case it would become almost insensitive.
The silvered surface must be simply moistened
with the hydriodate — the object being to get a
minimum quantity of it difiiised equally over the
silvered surface. The photo^apher accustomed
to delicacy of manipulation will find no difficulty
in this. While still wet the paper is placed upon
a glass (face downwards), and exposed in the
S54
yOTES AKD QUEBIES.
[No. 202.
OKiierB for periods varying from 10 to 60 aeconcli,
kcoording to circunwtiuiceB. In sunshine, and
nbea the object to be co|>iecl ia bright, S aecoads
in tliit climnte (India) it lufficient. Excellent
portrvts are obtained in shade Jn 30 seconds ; 60
seconds is the maximum of exposure. The pic-
ture is remoTed from the cnmern and alioired to
develop itself spontaneonslj in the dark, then
soaked in water, and fixed in the usual manner
with the hyposulphite of soda." — Aihenmat,
Jan. 10, 1852.
Xtepliitf to JHfnar &uirlal.
AUeritu Orbit Papa (Vol. iii., p. 497.). — It was
Pope Urban II. who, at the Council of Bari, in
Apulia, cave this title to St. Anselm, the colem-
porary Archbishop of Cunterbury, who was pre-
sent, and, in a learned and eloquent discourse,
confuted the Greeks, See Laud's Wttrki (Ang.-
Cath. Lib.), vol. ii. p. 190. ; note where the autho-
rities William of Malmesbury and John Capgrave
are cited. E, H. A,
" All my eye " (Tol. vii., p. 525.). — An earlier
toe of this " cant phrase " than that given by Ma.
DiMKL may be found in Archbishop Bramhall's
Amwer to the Epislie of M. de la Milietu-re, which
answer was first published in 1CJ3 : —
" Firthly, tuppose (all lliia Dotivitlislanditig) sucli n
conference should bald, wlmt trawa liave you lo pro-
just as
other plnces, and gained by Iheir
might pa( in your ejn and nt mpo
hII'i H'orii, vol, i. pp. 63-9^ edit.
(AeworK.".
Oi, 1843.
The Archbishop elsewhere mnkes use of the
same expression. Of its origin I can say nothing :
r the left,"
K. Blax:
" Clamour your tonguea," ^c. (Vol. vii!., p. 169.).
— Surely, surely, the "ciame water," in II. C. K.'s
extract from The Caatel of Heltke, and which is
set in antithetical opposition to "a rai^A water,"
is only calme water; by that common metathesis
nhich gives us briddee for birds, brunt for burnt.
So. II, T. GairriTH.
SpHed Mace* represented in Ike Window nf
the Abbei/ Church, Great Malvern. — There is an
instrument of this nature described by some of the
martyrologists under the name of " Scorpio," and
figured by Hieronyraus Magius (Jerome Maggi)
in bis treatise De Equtdeo. It is there repre-
sented as a thick stick, set with iron points, and
wai used, together with rods, and the plumbetx or
loaded chain scourges, to torment the confessors.
I am inclined to think, however, that the wea-
pon! represented in the windows at Great Malvern
are intended for morning star*, which were much
employed in arming the watch in the cities of
northern Europe in the Middle Ages, and at a
later period as well. This weapon (a variety of
which was called a holy-water sprinkle, fVom the
brusb-like arrangement of its spikes) had along
shaft like a balbcrt, and is often introduced in
paintings of the sixteenth and seventeenth cen-
turies, as borne by the Jewish guard who appear
in the varions scenes of Our Lord's Passion.
Of coarse the artists represented their charac-
ters OS wearing the dress and provided with arms
of their own period ; as we see the Roman soldiers
at the foot of the cross in some German and Dutch
Eictures, mere portraits of the sworders and swash-
ucklors of the seventeenth century,
I mav mention tliat a weapon of this coarae
description is generally put into the hands of a
ruffian, or at least of some very inferior character.
In La Mart Ji'Artur, Sir Launcelot encounters
on a bridge "a passing foul churl," who disputes
his passage, and ■' lashes at him with a great club,
full of iron pins."
I remember seeing a barbarous weapon takes
from a piratical vessel, which consisted of a mas-
wooden club, heavily loaded with lead, fur-
Olibrd.
Ampera and (bf or ^) (Vol. viii,, p. 173.).—
" N. & Q." has exhibited a forge tfu In ess, of which
he is very seldom guilty. If lie and his corre-
spondent Ma. Mahsfibld Inolebt will refer to
Vol. ii., p. 230., they will find the same question
asked by Ma. M. A, Lower ; and if ihey will
turn over the leaves to p, 284., they will £nd an
answer by ♦., which he now begs to repeat. The
word designated is and-per-ae-and. Curiously
enough, the first of the above printed symbohl
seems to have been formed from ^.'s cxplaoatiou,
that it was nothing more than a fiourisuing "et."
:e with the
, I have the
pleasure to inform him that in Richard Burnfield's
'Poena (reprinted by James Boswell for the Rox-
burgh Club), " The Complaint of Poetrie for the
deaOi of Liberalitie," 1598, is one of the pieces,
and on the first page of signature C. the word ila
occurs, but as a contraction of it it ;
" The maimed souldier camming from the waire ;
The woeruti wight, whoie house wu lately bunul ;
Theiillieiaule; the wofHil traueylar;
And aU, whom Fortune at her feet hath spurud i
Lament the loue of Uberalitie ;
ib Due to hauG in griafe som« oampanie."
Sept. 10. 1853.] KOTES AND QUERIEJa US
While on the opponte page we bsv« " U awlt " of Bath and W«lls aotil the time of Ralph ds
for " ii» soule," tlitu : Salopia (auooeeded aji. 1329, died a.d. 1363), who
- But « » worfall moLher dorth l«ment, 8*'* '* » *« ^9^^ ^""^ °f '•'^ cathedral, hy
H« tender bsbe, »>ih cruel death oppre« ; "1'™ "'''^ "^^n held down to the last year (1852),
'Whole life vu ^uUesse, pura aud inaocent, vhen they Bold the fee of il to Bobert Charles
< And tfaereibn sure il suuU is gone to rest) : Tudway, Esq^ M.P. for Wells. ISA.
So Bountie, which lierselfe did upright lieepe. Weill.
Yet for her loste, loue cannot chu»e bat weepe." _ _
„ . .L- I w .L 1 ■ .1. r. PMJny-<;om<!-suic*CVol.Tiii,,pp. 8.113. 184.)^
May not th>B lead to the concltis.on that it was y„„, correspondents on the subject of this name
to avoid confasion w.th the ellipsis of .( u. that jo not appear to ba aware that there is a place
the powessive caae was thus wntten .(? ^^ ^ ^^j^j j^ j^j^j . ^ ^^^ public-house,
b. W. biNQSB. jp^ o„g Qj. j„^ others, on the high road between
" a;^ «.-., i—n). f " /Wni ,.;:; ™, on iok i Wicklow and Arklow, near the sea-ahore, three
ships' compsmes at lie !ste naval review can ,, j .,>, "^ ■ 1 .- t u k .i.« »
■ _^i_ ... ,„, . .^... J I .i^- .f.' and do not think tbat the site countenances
Tberarenot«W., butint^- "" "^ T".' '■"."" '""„W
jectional .omuis ; with no other meaning than to H. C. K. a mgenious etymolt^y. u.
?repare for and time liie coming "hurrah!" Eugene Aram' t Comparative Lexicon (Vol. -ou^
t'hen the men are ready^ to cheer, the boatswain's p, fl97,)_ _ Mh. E. S. Taylob will perhaps be ^ad
mate gives the signal " hip, hip," and then follows k, ^nou that specimens of the above Lexicon were
the general " hurrah ! " This practice is adopted printed at the end of a small work published about
in public asaemblieaforthe same reason —to ensure twenty-five years since by Mr, Beli of Richmond
concert and unity in the final cheer. "Hurrah!" (Yorkahire), entitled The Trial and Life if
also I tftko (pace Sir F. Palgrave) to be a mere E„gene Aram. NoHLifl Dsck.
ttmnd: a nataral exclamation of pleasure, with no Cenibridge.
more instriusic meaning than "Oh!" or "Ah !"
for pain, or "Bah!" for contempt. It surety can Wooden Tombs and Effigies (Vol. vii., pp.S2B.
have no connesion with the phrase of old Norman 607., &c.). — At Sparsholt, Berks, in the south
law — "elameurs de haro :" for " haro" is an trsjisept, are two female effigies of wood, under
exclamation of dissent and opposition. " Crier sepulchral arches, richly carved in stone : one of
Jiarosurquelqu'un," is to excite mischief and scan- them is engraved in Hollis's Monuments. At
dal against him — the very reverse oi hurrah! C. Burghfield and Barkbam, in the same county, are
also wooden effigies of the fourteenth century.
Derivation of •^Wellesley" (Yol. vfu., p. 173.).— At Hildersham Church, Cambridgeshire, withio
In reply to J. M., I think the following particulars the altar rails, on the north side, is a wooden
may not be uninteresting to him. There is good monument of a knight and his lady : the kni^t
reason to believe that the name of Wellesley was cross-legged, and drawing his sword. They are
derived from an ancient manor about one mile said to be the effigies of Sir Thomas Busteler and
sonih of Wells, called Wellesleigb, which once lady temp Edward II. Nokeis Deck,
belonged to the Bishops of Bath and Wells. It is Cambridae
certain that a family called " De Wellsleigh" lived, ' '
and held considerable lands in this manor at a Queen Anne's Motto (Vol. viii., p. 174.), — By
very remote period. In 1253, a Philip de Wells- an order of the queen in coundl, 17th of April,
leigh, and in 1349 another of the same name, are 1707, consequent upon the union of Scotland with
recorded as holding part of the manor of the England, it was declared in what manner the en-
Bishops of Bath and Wells. These lands, with signs armorial of the United Kingdom (called
the serjeanty and office of bailiff and " cryer of Groat Britain) should thenceforth be borne ;
the hundred," passed into the family of the Hills when it was also declared tbat her majesty's motto,
of Spaxton, A.D. 1435. In 7 Henry VII., John " Semper eadem," should be continaed. G.
Stourton held half a knight's fee in this manor :
"formerly held by WUliam de Wellsleigh." I Ztmgevity (Vol. vii., p. 358, &c.). — Several of
have an original deed in my possession dated 26th the upland parishes bordering on the river Tare
Edward I., being a feoffment or grant of lands in have had remarkable instances of longevity. One
Dinder (an adjoining parish) by William Le of the best authenticated was a man named Pottle,
Fleming, " Ddb de Dynder," in wWch " Thomas who rewded on the Eeedbam estate of the {ate
de Welesle^e" and "Bobert de Welesle^" <ao J- P. Leathes, Esq, of Herringfleet. When
the name is spelt) are, among others, named bb Pottle was 104 years old, the tenantry on the
witneaea. Tlus manor was held by the Biahopa estate subscribed to Juve his portrait puntea.
256
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 202.
wbicb they presented to their landlord, each re-
taining a lithograph copy of it Many of these
copies I hnve seen. Two years after this I con-
versed with the old man, who was then keeping
cows on a common. There was nothing remark-
able about him except his voice, which was very
loud and powerful. He has now been dead some
time, but I do not know his exact age at death.
In the register of burials for the parish of
Bunham, Norfolk, is this entry :
« August 12, 1788. William Russels, aged One
hundred and one years.**
The clergyman has entered the age in round text-
hand, evidently that the entry might not escape
notice. E. G. R.
'^ Irish Bishops as English Suffragans (Vol. vii.,
p. 569.). — The following instances of Irish bishops
acting as bishops in England will be additional
illustrations of the facts adduced by An Oxford
fi. C. JL. .'
** Requisitus idem Simon de suis Ordinibus dicit,
quod apud Oxoniam recepit Ordinem subdiacont a
quodam Episcopo VbemitB, Albino nomine, tunc vicario
Episcopi Lincolniensia, Item ab eodem recepit Ordi-
nem diaconi ^ Capellanus de Sandhurst
Johannes De Siveburn dicit, quod ordinatus fuit sudia-
oonum apud Cicestriam, Diaconum apud Winton.,
ah Episcopo Godfrido, in Vbernia.** — Maskell's Ancient
Liturgy of the Church of England, p. 181., note.
W. Fbaseb.
Tor-Mohun.
Green Pots used for drinhing from by Members
of the Temple (Vol. viii., p. 171.). — The green
Eots mentioned in Sir Julius Caesar's letter had
een introduced into the Inner Temple about
thirty years before its date. This appears from
the following passage in Dugdale's Origines Ju"
ridiciales (1680), p. 148., where he refers to the
register of that Society, fol. 127 a. :
•* Untill the second year of Q. Eliz. reign, this So-
ciety did use to drink in Cups of Ashen- Wood (such
as are still used in the King's Court), but then those
were laid aside, and green earthen pots introduced,
which have ever since continued."
When were these green pots discontinued?
Paper Buildings were erected nearly fifty years
before Dugdale's time. The new part built in
1849 was on the south of these, which may,
perhaps, have been the site of the dust-hole of the
Society, and thus become the depositary of the
broken pots mentioned by B. Edwaed Foss.
Shape of Coffins (Vol. viii., p. 104.). — As bearing
somewhat upon Mr. Ellacombe*s Query, allow
me to remark that when travelling a few years
since in the United States, having about an hour's
delay in the city of Rochester, N. Y., I entered
one of the churches during a funeral service.
When the ceremony (at which a considerable
number of persons attended) was concluded, the
congregation left their seats and walked in very
orderly procession towards the reading-desk, in
front of which was placed the coffin, without any
pall or covering. They then slowly walked round
it, in order, as I afterwards found, to take their
last look at the departed. This they were enabled
to do without the removal of the lid, by raising
the upper or head portion of it, which was hinged,
a square of glads beneath allowing the face to be
seen. This strange custom, which, for my own
Eart, I think would be ** more honoured by the
reach than the observance," as the recollection
of the living face to me is far preferable to that
of death, I do not remember to have seen noticed
by any of our many travellers in America, though
I afterwards found it to be general. The coffins,
which are somewhat differently shaped to ours,
sloping towards the feet, are rarely covered with
cloth ; but are generally made of some hard wood,
such as walnut, highly polished.
EOBEBT WbIOHT.
Old Fogies (Vol. viii., p. 154.). — There may
be too much of even a good thing, and I wish
some of the writers in "N. & Q." would study
compression a little. A short paragraph which I
wrote, more in jest than earnest, on the above
phrase, has drawn down on me no less than two
columns from J. L. But this comes of meddling
with Scotland.
One might fancy that J. L. was the Irish, not
the Scottish advocate, for he proves the prior
claim of Scotland by showing that the word which
I had stated to have been in use in Dublin in the
first half of the last century, was known in Edin-
burgh in the last half of it. He must also excuse
my saying that he does not seem ever to have
studied etymology, one of the rules of which is,
that if a probable origin of a word can be found in
the language to which it belongs, we should not
seek elsewhere. 'Nowfogie (i. Q.folkie^ the Dutch
voVtje) comes as surely from foVty as lassie from
lasst or any other diminutive from its primitive.
I now have done with the subject.
Thos. Keightlet.
Swan-marhs (Vol. viii., p. 62.). — ^W. Colltns's
remark on swan-marks may mislead ; therefore it
isworth noting that " the swan with two necks " is
not "a corruption of the private mark of the owner
of the swans, viz. two nicks made by cutting the
nech feathers close in two places." The nicks were
made in the beah; and the privilege of having
swan-marks was by grant from the crown.
The Vintners' Company's mark for their swans
on the Thames was two mcks ; hence a two -nicked
swan was a very appropriate sign for a tavern.
The royal swans are marked wiw five nicks, two
lengthwise, and three across the bill. (See Hone's
Sept. 10. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
267
Every-day Booh, 1827, p. 963. ; YarrelFs British
Birds ; Jardine's Nat Lib, ; Penny Cyclop., art.
" Swan.") It is to be noted, however, that Hone
is in error in saying the two nicks are the royal
swan-mark. Eden Warwick.
Birmingham.
Limerich, Dublin, and Corh (Vol. viii., p. 102.).
—I should think the author of this doggrel couplet,
if we are to consider it as a fair specimen of his
poetic genius, may safely be permitted to remain
in obscurity. Be that as it may, the lines are by
no means new, nor are they confined to the sister
isle alone. In the Prophecies of Nixon, the Che-
shire Merlin, who lived nobody knows when,
except that it was certainly a " long time ago," we
are given to understand that :
** London streets shall run with blood,
And at last shall sink ;
So that it shall be fulfilled,
That Lincoln was, London is, and York shall be
The finest city of the three."
As I have just stated, the original date of these
Prophecies is somewhat involved in mystery ; but
I myself possess copies of three different editions
published during the last century, the first of the
three, purporting to be the sixth edition, bearing
date London, 1719. A Life of Nixon, affixed to
this edition, states him to have lived and prophe-
sied in the reign of King James I. ; at whose court,
we are farther told, he was, in conformity with
his own prediction, starved to death. His Pro-
phecies are, by the learned, held to be apocryphal ;
the country folk of Cheshire, on the contrary,
have as much faith yi them and their author as
they have in the fact of their own existence.
T. Hughes.
Chester.
" Could we with inh^^ Sfc, (Vol. viii., pp. 127.
180.). — I am surprised that none of your corre-
spondents has referred to Smart, the translator of
Horace, who has been frequently stated to be the
writer of these lines, and I believe* with truth.
E. H. D. D.
Character of the Son^ of the Nightingale
(Vol. vii., p. 397. ; Vol. viii., p. 112.). — Although
Milton seems to have generally used the epithet
solemn in its classical sense (as cleverly pointed
out by Mr. Sydney Gedge), and meant to repre-
sent the nightingale as the customary attendant of
night, yet there is at least one passage where the
epithet appears to me not to have this meaning ;
but to express that the song of the nightingiue
caused " a holy joy," and was heard not only in
the day-time, but all through the night. For
although Milton calls the nightingale '* the night-
warbling bird," and so makes it *' the customary
attendant of the night," yet he also elsewhere as
truly speaks of it as a day singer. The passage I
referred to is in Paradise Lost, book vii.^ and
seems to me to bear the meaning above spoken of:
though Mr. Gedge may perhaps make " solemn"
refer back to the last noun " even." And I con-
fess that the meaning seems dubious :
*< From branch to branch, the smaller birds with song
Solac*d the woods, and spread their painted wings
Till even ; nor then the solemn nightingale
Ceas*d warbling, but all night tun*d her soft lays.**
I can add one other epithet to the one hundred
and nine which I have already given of the night-
ingale's son": :
Wond'ring, Dryden (" Falamon and Arcite*').
I may add, that Otway and Grainger (errone-
ously printed Graingle) appear to have used
" solemn" in the ordinary meaning of the word.
CUTHBERT BeDE, B.A.
AdamsorCs ^^ Lusitania Illustrata^* (Vol. viii.,
p. 104.). — Your correspondent W. M. M. may
consult the following works with great advantage :
" Resume de I'Histoire Litteraire du Portugal, suivi
du Resume de I'Histoire Litteraire du Bresil, 12mo. :
Paris, 1826."
" Parnaso Lusitano, ou Poesias selectas dos auctores
Portuguezos antigos e modernos, illustrados cum notas^
percedido de una Historia abreviada da lingua e
poesia Portugueza, torn, v., I8mo. : Paris, 1826."
The destruction by fire of Mr. Adamson's
library, which was so rich in Portuguese litera-
ture, has, with other circumstances, hitherto pre-
vented the continuation of the Lusitania Illustrata ;
but the appearance of future parts, in furtherance
of the origmal plan, is by no means abandoned.
E. H. A.
Adamsoniana (Vol. vii., p. 500. ; Vol. viii.,
p. 135.). — I was aware of the way in which the
famous naturalist spelt his name, but supposed
that Michel Adanson and Michad Adamson were
the same, the former being merely the French
mode of writing according to their pronunciation.
I was also aware of the leading events in the
naturalist's own career, but was desirous if pos-
sible of identifying his father : " the gentleman
who, after firmly attaching himself to the Stuarts,
left Scotland, and entered the service of the
Archbishop of Aix."
Perhaps I may be more fortunate in obtaining
some information respecting another Scot of the
same name : James Adamson, for thirty-one years
rector of Tigh, in Kutlandshire, who is described
in the inscription upon his tombstone as "natu
Scotus, Anglus vita, moribus antiquis, cum rege
suo in prosperis et adversis." I believe he was
the father of John Adamson, M.A., Rector of
Burton Goggles, in Lincolnshire : the author of
two sermons ; one published in 1698, and entitled
The Duty of Daily frequerUing the Public Service
258
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 202,
of the Church ; another published in 1707, being
the Fftnend Sermon for Sir JE. Tumor of Stoke
Rochford * (whose chaplain he was), a great f^o-
moter of pious and charitable undertakings. Can
these sermons be now procured? Is anything
farther known respecting the author or his family ?
E. RA.
Crassus* Saying (VoLvii., p. 498.). — Mb. Ewabt
will not easily extract his English from the Latin,
which is simply, " Fit salad for such lips."
S. Z. Zt, s*
Stanzas in " Childe Harold " (Vol. iv. passim),
— This stanza has already occupied too many of
your pages ; will you, however, allow me to put a
ryder on it, by referrmg your correspondents
to Lord Byron*s oum ignorance of the meaning of
an expression in this stanza, expressed in a letter
to Murray, published in Moore s Life, Letter 323,
dated Venice, 24th September, 1818, when, after
pointing out an error in the same canto, he says :
** What does * thy waters wasted them ' mean ? That
i» not me. Consult the MS. always."
And in a note by Moore on this letter, he says,
" This passage remains also uncorrected."
At the end of this letter Byron writes, "I saw the
canto by accident.^ Query : If Byron only saw
his cantos by " accident," would not a new edition
of his works collated with his MSS. be " a con-
summation deyoutly to be wished." S. Wmson.
Glasgow.
""WelTs a fret'" (Vol. viiL, p. 197.).— This is one
of a class which will be lost if not recorded.
Forty years ago, in the West of England, and
perhaps elsewhere, a seryant, when teased by a
child to know where such a person was, would
answer —
^ In bis skin.
When he jumps out, you may jump in."
The answer to Ehf was always Straw^ 1 dare
stkj more of these things will be produced. What
ought they to be called ? M.
Tenet or Tenent (VoL vii., p. 205.). — We speak
of the tenets of a sect. Somewhat less than a cen-
tury ago the formula would haye been their
tenents ; and was not this the more correct ?
Balliolensis.
Mrs, Catherine Barton (Vol. iii., pp. 328. 434.).
— When I answered the Query, I was not aware
of what Baily states in ^he Supplement to Flam-
stead, p. 750. Rigaud ascertained for Baily that
Mrs. C. B. (the title Mistress being giyen at that
period to marriageable young ladies) was not the
w(/e, but the sister of Colonel Barton. Both were
the children of Hannah Smith, Newton's half-
\^ This sermon is in the British Museunu— £d.J
sister, and Robert Barton. Mrs^ C. B. waa bora
about 1680. M.
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it by some few observations of our own. We shall take tiuU Sfporm
tun/ty also of noticing a communication with which we havebeen
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Greek Inscription on a Font — We have been remmded ba
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p. 198., had been discussed in our preceding Vtdume^ pp. 178^
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Cat has been anticipated, •* N. * Q.," Vol. iU, pp. «77. 412.;
Vol. v., p. 402. -. rr ,
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see ^ an article in the present Number.
T. D. S. (Ruthin'^. In aU probability there nr a d^ien^ qf
acetic acid in your developing solution, air the acetic acid is impure
and is adulterated with sulphuric acid. A few drops tff nitrate qf
baryta would test the purity.
Colouhing Collodion Pictures. >. We risould like to see a
specimen of Mr. Lane's skill, and should be very happy to ^Mtrt
his process.
PHorroGRAPHT AT Bath — We understand that a pmnuMH ii
pugning the correctness of some processes given in **''tL ft Q."
has been published at Bath, but, as we know neither the author's
name nor the pubHsher, have to request n^finrmatim on tikue
points from some Bath phot<^itapher.
Errata. — In p. 194., for "bytleing" read "bjthlii«:** ftkf
•Vbyth " read •« bytl. ; " p. 19S., the 24th line froi» the bottom of
the page, for •* the prenxie Angelo " read ** the preaae Angela ; •*
p. 207., for " parish of West Fetton " read ^' pariah of West
Felton."
A few complete sets qf** Notes and Qubbibs,** Vols. f. tovif.,
price Three Guineas and a Ha^f, may now be had g for which
early application is desirable.
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CONTENTS.
Our Shakspearian Correspondence - •
KoTKs : —
Mr. Pepyg and Ea*t London Topography, &c. •
Ficts* Houses in Aberdeenshire . - -
Page
. 261
> 263
• 264
Folk Lore : — Legends of the County Clare — Devon-
shire Cures for the Thrush - - - - 264
Heraldic Notes: — Arms of Granville — Arms of
Richard, King of the Romans . - . - 265
Shakspeare Correspondence, by J. O. Halliwell and
Thos. Keightley 265
Minor Notes : — Longfellow*s Poetical Works — Sir
Walter Raleigh — Curious Advertisement — Grave-
stone Inscription — Monumental luscription • - 267
IQUERIBS : —
Sir Philip Warwick . . . - -268
Seals of the Borough of Great Yarmouth, by E. S.
Taylor .269
Minor Queries: — Hand in Bishop Canning's Church
— "I put a spoke in his wheel '*^— Sir W. Hewit —
Passage in Virgil — Fauntleroy — Animal Prefixes
descriptive of Size and Quality — Punning Devices
— " Pmece with a stink" — Soiled Parchment D<»ed8
— Roger Wilbraham, Esq.'s, Cheshire Collection
— Cambridge and Ireland — Derivation of Celt —
Ancient Superstition against the ''King of England
entering or even beholding the Town of Leicester
— Burton — The Camera Lucida — Francis Moore — >
Waugh, Bishop of Carlisle — Palace at Enfield —
*' Solamen miserls," &c. — Soke Mills — Second Wife
ofMallet -..269
Minor Queries with Answers : — Books burned by
'the Common Hangman — Captain George Cusack —
Sir Ralph Winwood ....
Seplibs : —.
Books chained to Desks in Churches, by J. Booker, &c.
Kpitaphs, by Cuthbert Bede, B.A., &c. - . .
Parochial Libraries .....
*' Up, Guards, and at them ! '* by Frank Howard
Photographic Correspondence : — Mr. Mullar*s Pro.
cess — Stereoscopic Angles — Ammonio-nitrate of
Silver ....... 275
Hbplibs to Minor Queries:- Sir Thomas Elyot —
Judges styled ** Reverend" — " Hurrah " and other
War.cries— Major Andr£— Early Edition of the
New Testament — Ladies* Arms borne in a Lozenge
— Sir William Haokford — Mauilies, Manillas — The
Use of the Hour-glass in Pulpits — Derivation of the
Word ** Island " — A Cob- wall — Oliver Cromwell's
Portrait— Manners of the Irish — Chronograms and
Anagrams —"Haul over the Coals;" — Sheer Hulk —
The Magnet — Fierce — Connexion between the
Celtic and Latin Languages — Acharis, &c. .
. 272
273
273
274
275
YIiscnLANEous : .-
Notes on Books, &c. * •
Books and Odd Volumes wanted
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisements
- 276
. 282
• 282
. 282
- 283
Toi^VIIL — No.203.
X>UR SHAKSPEARIAN COBBESPONDENCE.
We have received from a valued and kind corre-
spondent (not one of those emphatically good-natured
friends so wittily described by Sheridan) the following
temperate remonstrance against the tone which has
distinguished several of our recent articles on Shak-
speare : —
Shakspeare Suggestions (Vol. viii., pp. 124.
169.). —
*^ Most busy, when least I do."
I am grateful to A. E. B. for referring me to
the article on " Shakspeare Criticism " in the last
number of Blackwood's Magazine. It is a very
able paper, and worthy of general attention.
I ought to add some few explanatory observa-
tions upon the subject of my former communica-
tion, but the tone of A. E. B.'s comments forbids
me to proceed with the discussion; the more
especially as my suggestion has been made a reason
for introducing into your pages comments which
seem to me to be altogether unwarrantable upon
other portions of the article in Blackwood. Who^
ever may be the writer of that article — I do not
know — he needs no other defence than a re-
ference to his paper. It is not on his account
that I venture to allude to this subject; it is
rather on yours, Mr. Editor, and with a view to
the welfare of your paper. I cannot think that
you or it will be benefited by converting conver-
sational gossip about Shakspeare difficulties into
" a duel m the form of a debate,*' seasoned with
sarcasm, insinuation, and satiric point. This ia
not the kind of matter one expects to find in
" N. & Q. ; " neither do I think your pages should
be made a vehicle for " showing up" such of " tha
herd of menstrual Aristarchi *' as chance to differ
in opinion from some of your smart and peremp-
tory, but not unfrequently inaccurate and illiberal
correspondents.
I know that you yourself are in this respect
much in the power of your contributors, rro-
bably you were as ignorant of the existence of the
article in Blackwood as I was.* It is now brought
* We had not seen this very able article until our
attention was called to it by this letter. We regret
262
NOTES AND QUERIES
[No. 203.
before your notice, and I invite you to look at
it, and judge for yourself whether A. E. B. has
treated you, your paper, or the writer of that very
excellent article, with common fairness in the
remarks to which T allude.
I make these observations on two grounds : first,
as one who has many reasons for being anxious
for the prosperity of "N. & Q. ;" and seeondlj,
because I know it to be the opinion of several of
your earliest and warmest friends, that there is a
tendency in som« of your Shakspeare contributors
to indulge in insinuation^ imputation of m^ves,
and many other things which ought never to
appear in your pages. We lately observed, with
dteep regret, that you were misled (not by A.E.B.)
into the insertion of unjustifiable insinuations^
levelled against a gentleman whom we all know to
be a man of the highest personal honour.
The questions which are mooted in your pages
Ought to be discussed with the mutual rorbearance
and enlarged liberality which are predominant in
the general society of our metropolis ; not with
the keen and angry partizanship which distin-
guishes the petty squabbles of a country town.
Icon.
Our readers know that we ourselyes recently noticed
the tendency of too many of oar correspondents to de-
part from the courteous i^irit by which the earlier
communications to this Journal were distinguished.
The intention we then announced of playing the tyrant
in future^ and ezercbing with greater freedom our
'''editorial privilege of omission," we now repeat yet
aoore emphatically. Icon well remarks that wx are
much in the power of our contributors, indeed wk
are more so than even he supposes.
An article on the Notes and Emendatiotu wlueh
lately appeared in our columns concluded, in its ori-
ginal form, with an argument against their genuine-
ness, based (m the use of a word unknown to Shak-
speare and his cotemporaries. This appeared to us
somewhat extraordinary, and a reference to Richard-
son's excellent Dictionary proved that our eorrespon*
dent was altogether wrong as to his facta. We of course
omitted the passage ; but we ought not to have received
a statement founded on a mistake which might have
been avoided by a single reference to so common a
book.
Again, at p. 194. of the present volume, another
correspondent, after pointing out some coincidences
between the old Emendator and some suggested cor-
rections by Z. Jackson, and stating that Ma. Coluer
never once refers to Jackson, proceeds : ** Ma. Sikgxb,
that the author of it was iu>t aware of what had been
written in ** N. & Q." on many of the points discussed
by him. Such knowledge mi^t have modified some of
his views.
however, talks familiarly about Jackson, in his Shah'
speare Vindicated, as if he had him at his fingers* ends;
and yet, at p. 239., he favours the world with an ori-
ginal emendation (viz. < He did behood his anger,*
Timon, Act III. Sc. I.), which, however, will be found
at page 389. of Jackson*s book.** Now, after this, who
would have supposed that, ,as we learn firom Ma.
SiXGER, ** Mr. Inglebt has founded his charge on
such slender grounds as one cursory notice of Jack"
soo at p. 283. of my book, where I mentiooed him
merely on the authority of Mr. Collier.** And who
that knows Mr. Singer will doubt the truth of his
assertion, that he has not even seen Jackson's book for
near a quarter of a century, and that he had not the
slightest reason to doubt that the conjecture o£ hAood
for behave was his own property ?*
But there is another gentlenum who, althou^ he has
never whispered a remonstrance to us upon the subject,
has even more grounds of complaint than Ma. Sikoer,
Ibr the treatment which he has received in oor columns ;
we mean our valued friend and contributor Hibu Col-
lier, who we feel has received some iujustiee in our
pages. But the fact is that, holding, as we do uih
changed, the opinion which we originally eiqpressed of
the great value of the Notes and Emendation» — know-
ing Mr. Collier's character to be above suspicion — and
believing that the result of all the discusstons to which
the Notes and Emendations have given rise, will even-
tually be to satisfy the world of their great value, — we
have not looked so strictly as we ought to have done,
and as we shall do in future, to the tone in which they
have been discussed in ** N. & Q.^
And here let us take the opportunity of offering a
few suggestions which we think worthy of being borne
in mind in all discussions on the text of Shakspeare,
whether the object under consideration be what Shak^
peare actually wrote, or what Shakspeaie reallj meant
by what he did write.
First, as to this latter point. Some years ago a
distinguished scholar, when engaged in translaiing
Gothe*s Fansty came to a passage involved in eon-
siderable obscurity, and which he found was inter-
preted very differently by different admirers of the
poem. Unable, under these circumstances, to procure
any satisfactory solution of the poet*s meanio|^ the
translator applied to Gothe himself^ and received ftom
him the candid reply which we think it fiur firom im-
probable that Shakspeare himself might give with re-
ference to many passages in his own writings,—** 'nmt
* On this point we would call especial attentkni to
Mr. Halliwell*s communication on the Difficulty of
avoiding Coincident Suggestions on the Text of Shakipaire,
which will be found in our present Niimb«r.
Sept. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEIE&
263
be was very sorry he could not assist him, but he really
did not know exactly what he meant when he wrote
it.** We doubt not some of our contributors could sup-
ply us with many similar avowals.
This opinion will no doubt oiFend many of those
blind worshippers of Sbakspeare, who will not believe
that he could have written a passage which is not per-
fect, and who, consequently, will not be satisfied with
any note, emendation, or restoration which does not
make the passage into which it is introduced ** one en-
tire and perfect chrysolite." But this is unreasonable.
We have direct evidence of the imperfect character of
much that Shakspeare wrote. When told that Shak-
speare had never blotted a line, Ben Jonson — no
mean critic, and no unfriendly one — wished he had
*' blotted a thousand.** Would rare Ben have uttered
such a wish ignorantly and without cause ? We be-
lieve the existence of such defects in the writings of
Shakspeare, as they were left by him. It follows, there-
fore, that in our opinion Shakspeare is under great
obligations to the undeservedly-abused commentators.*
It would be strange indeed, when we consider how
many men of genius and learning have busied them-
selves to illustrate his writings, if none of them should
have caught any inspiration from his genius. We be-
lieve they have done so. We believe Theobald's " bab-
bled o* green fields *' to be one of many instances in
which, with refer«[ice to some one particular passage^
the scholiast has proved himself worthy of and excelling
his author. Yes, Shakspeare, the greatest of all un-
inspired writers, was but mortal ; and his worshippers
would sometimes do well bear in mind that their golden
image had but feet of clay.
fitttti.
MB. PEPYS AND EAST LOWDOW TOPOGEAPHT, ETC.
In " N. & Q." (Vol. i., p. 141.) there appeared
an article upon the Isle of Dogs, &c., which spoke
of the neglected topography of the east of LfOndon,
and requested information on one or two points.
Haying felt much interested in this matter, I have
endeavoured to obtain information by personal
investigation, and send you the following from
among a mass of Notes : —
1. Jsle of Dogs, In a map drawn up in 1588
by Robert Adams, engraved in 1738, this name is
applied to an islet in the river Thames, still in
* One of the most specious arguments which have
been advanced against the genuineness of the Notes and
Emendations is, that they agree in many instances with
readings which had been suggested nuiny years before
the discovery of the MS. Notes. Of course it is obvious
that, wherever the readings are right, they must do so ;
and these coincidences serve to satisfy us of the correct-
ness of both.
part existing, at the south-west comer of the
peninsula. From this spot the name sppears to
nave extended to the entire marsh.
2. Dick Shore, Limehouse. This is now called
Duke Shore, Fore Street. In Gascojne*8 Map of
Stepney, 1703, it is called Dick Skoar. Smee
that time Dick has become a Duke. Mr. Pepjs
would find boats there now if he visited the spot.
3. Mr. Pepys, in his Diary of Mar. 23, 1660,
speaks of "the great breach," near Limehouse.
The spot now forming the entrance to the City
Canal or South Dock of the West India Dock
Company was called " the breach,** when the canal
was formed.
4. July 31, 1665. Mr. Fepys speaks of the
Ferry in the Isle of Dogs. This ferry is named
as a horse-ferry by Norden in the Britanmm
Speculum, 1592 (MS.). The ferry is still used, but
only seldom as a horse-ferry.
5. Oct. 9, 1661. Mr. P. mentions Captain
Marshe's, at Limehouse, close by the lime-house.
There is still standing there a large old brick
house, which may be the same ; and the lime-kiln
yet exists, for, as Norden says, " ther is a kiliki
ccmtynually used.**
6. Sept. 22, 1665. Mr. P. speaks of a discovery-
made " m digging the late docke.** This discovery
consisted of nut trees, nuts, yew, ivy, &c., twelve-
feet below the surface. Johnson no doubt told
him the truth. The same discovery was made in
1789, in digging the Brunswick Dock, also at
Blackwall, and elsewhere in the neighbourhood.
This very week (Aug. 25, 1853) I procured
specimens of several kinds of wood, with land and
freshwater shells, from as great a depth in an
excavation at the West India Docks; the wood
from a bed of peat, the shells from a bed of clay-
resting upon it. There exists an ancient house i^.
the dock which Mr. P. visited, and which is pro-
bably the same.
Other illustrations of the Diartf from this,
quarter might be adduced; let these^ however^
suffice as a specimen.
It may probably be new to most of your readers,,
as it is to me, that an ancient house in Blackwall
(opposite the Artichoke Tavern) is said to have
been the residence of Sebastian Cabot at one-
time, and at another that of Sir Walter Raleigh^
Whether the tradition be true or not, the house
is very curious, and worth a visit, if not worthy
of bemg sketched and engraved to preserve its
memory. Perhaps the photograph in this case
could be applied. ' v ^-^^^
It is not impossible that Sir John de Pulteney
or Poultney, to whom the manor of Poplar waa
granted in the 24th of Edward III., resided ott
this spot. My reasons for thinking it are — thia
fact, which connects him with the neighbourhood ;
and the inference from two other facts, viz. that
the house in which Sir John resided in town was
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 203.
called Cold Harbour^ and that Cold Harbour is
here also to be found. Sir John Pulteney is thus
connected \?ith both the places known by this
name.
I would give my name in verification, but you
have it, as you should have the names and ad-
dresses of all your correspondents. B. H. C.
Poplar.
PICTS* HOUSES IN ABEBDEENSHIRE.
A short time ago, one of those remarkable re-
mains of a very remote antiquity, and called by
the country-people Picts' Houses, Yird, Eirde, or
£rde houses, was discovered by Mr. Douglass,
farmer, Culsh, in the parish of Tarland, Aberdeen-
shire, near his farm -steading, on the property of
our noble Premier. It is a subterranean vault,
of a form approaching the semicircular, but elon-
gated at the farther end. Its extreme length is
thirty-eight feet; its breadth at the entrance a
little more than two feet, gradually widening
towards the middle, where the width is about six
feet, and it continues at about that average. The
height is from five and a half to six feet. The
sides are built with stones, some of them in
the bottom very large ; the roof is formed of
large stones, six or seven feet long, and some of
them weighing above a ton and a half. They
must have been brought from the neighbouring
hill of Saddle-lick, about two miles distant, being
of a kind of granite not found nearer the spot.
The floor is formed of the native rock (horn-
blende), and is very uneven. When discovered
it was full of earth, and in the process of excava-
tion there was found some wood ashes, fragments
of a glass bottle, and an earthenware jar (modern),
some small fragments of bones, and one or two
teeth of a ruminant animal, and the upper stone
of a querne (hand-corn-mill, mica schist), together
with a small fragment, probably of the lower
stone. But, alas ! there were no hieroglvphics or
cuneiform inscriptions to assist the antiquary in
his researches. These underground excavations
have been found in various parishes in Aberdeen-
shire, as well as in several of the neighbouring
counties. In the parish of Old Deer, about fifty
years ago, a whole village of them was come upon ;
and about the same time, in a den at the back of
Stirlinghill, in the parish of Peterhead, one was
discovered which contained some fragments of
bones and several flint arrow-heads, and battle-
axe^ in the various stages of manufacture. In no
case, however, have any of those previously dis-
covered been of the same magnitude as the one
described above. They were generally of from
twelve to fifteen feet in length, and from three to
four feet in height, and some only six feet in
length, so that this must have been in its day
(when?) a rather aristocratic afiair. Have any
similar excavations been found in England ? The
earliest mention of the parish of Tarland, of which
there is any account, is in a charter granted by
Moregun, Earl of Mar, to the Canons of St.
Andrews, of the Church of S. Machulnoche (S.
Mochtens, Bishop and Confessor) of Tharuclund,
with its trthes and oblations, its land and mill, and
timber from the Earl's woods fbr the buildings of
the canons, a.d. 1165-71 ; and a charter of King
William the Lion, and one of Eadward, Bishop of
Aberdeen, both of same date, confirming the said
grant. Abredonemsis.
FOLK LOBE.
Legends of the County Clare. — How Fuen-
Vic-Couil (Fingall) obtained the knowledge of
future events. — Once upon a time, when Fuen-Vic-
Couil was young, he fell into the hands of a giant,
and was compelled to serve him for seven years,
during which time the giant was fishing for the
snlmon which had this property — that whoever ate
the first bit of it he would obtain the gift of pro-
phecy ; and during the seven years the only nou»
rishment which the giant could take was after this
manner : a sheaf of oats was placed to windward of
him, and he held a needle before his mouth, and
lived on the nourishment that was blown from the
sheaf of corn through the eye of the needle. At
length, when the seven years were passed, the
gianfs perseverance was rewarded, and he caught
the famous salmon and ffave it to Fuen-Vic-Couil
to roast, with threats of instant destruction if he
allowed any accident to happen to it. Fuen-Vic-
Couil hung the fish before the fire by a string, but,
like Alfred in a similar situation, being too much
occupied with his own reflections, forgot to turn the
fish, so that a blister rose on the side of it. Terrified
at the probable consequences of his carelessness,
he attempted to press down the blister with his
thumb, and feeling the smart caused by the burn-
ing fish, by a natural action put the injured
member into his mouth. A morsel of the fish ad-
hered to his thumb, and immediately he received
the knowledge for which the giant had toiled so
long in vain. Knowing that his master would
kill him if he remained, he fled, and was soon pur-
sued by the giant breathing vengeance : the chace
was long, but whenever he was in danger of being
caught, his thumb used to pain him, and on put-
ting it to his mouth he always obtained knowledge
how to escape, until at last he succeeded in putting
out the giant*s eyes and killing him ; and always
afterwards, when in difiSiculty or danger, his thumb
used to pain him, and on putting it to his mouth
he obtained knowledge how to escape.
Compare this legend with the legend of Cerid-
wen, Manes Taliessin, MaMnogion^ vol. iii.
pp. 322, 32S., the coincidence of which is very
curious. Where also did Shakspeare get the
Sept. 17. 1853.]
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265
speech he makes one of the witches ulter in Mae-
leth :
" Bj (he pricking ofviy tKumhi,
Something wicked tliis wny comes."
Francis Rodebt Da vies.
Devottihire Cures for the Thrmh. — " Take
three rushes from anj running stream, and pass
them scparatelj through the mouth of the infant;
then plunge the rushes again into the stream, and
as the cun-ent bears them away, 30 will the thrush
depai-t from the child,"
Should this, as is not unlikelj, prove inolTectual,
" Capture the nearest duck that can be met with,
and place its mouth, wide open, within the mouth
of the sufferer. The cold breath of the duck will
be inhaled bj the child, and the disease mill era-
duallj', and as I have been informed, not the less
surely, take its departure." T. Hughes.
Chester.
Anaa of Graavilie. — The meaning of the pecu-
liar, bearing which, since the thirteenth century,
lias appertained to this noble family, has always
been a matter of uncertainty to heraldic writers ;
it has been variously blazoned as a clarion, clavi-
cord, organ-reat, lance-rest, and aufilue. The
majority of her^ds, ancient and modern, term it
a clarion without quite defining what a clarion is :
that it is meant for a musical instrument (pro-
bably a kind of hand-organ), I have very little
doubt ; for, in the noodcut Mrs. Jameson gives
in her Legends of ike Madonna (p. 19.) of Piero
Laurati's painting of the " Maria Coroaata," the
■uppermost angel on the left b represented as car-
rying an instrument exactly similar to this charge
as it is usually drawn. The date of this painting
is 1340. This is probably about the date of the
painted glass window in the choir.of Tewkesbury
Abbey Church, where Robert Earl of Gloucester
bears three of these clarions on his suTCoat ; and
upon a careful examination of these, I was con-
vinced that they were intended to represent in-
struments similar to that carried by the angel in
Laurati's painting.
Arms of Richard, King of the Romans. — This
celebrated man, the second son of King John,
Earl of Cornwall and Foictou, was elected King
of the Romans at Frnnkfort on St. Hilary's Day
(Jan. 13th) 12S(>. His earldom of Cornwall was
represented by — Argent, a lion rampant gules
crowned or; his earldom of Foictou by a bor-
dnre sable, bezantce, or rather of peas (poix) in
reference to the name Poictou ; and as king of
the Romans he is sud to have borne these arms
upon the breast of the German double-headed
eagle displayed sable, which represented that dig-
nity. I do not recollect having seen them under
this last form, but I have "made a Note of" several
other variations I have met with : —
1 . In Dorchester Church, Oxfordshire, in painted
glass: Argent, a lion rampant, gules crowned oi*,
within a bordure sable beaant6e.
2. On the seal of a charter granted by the
earl to the monks of Okeburry : a lion rampant
crowned. No bordure.
3. On an encaustic tile in the old Singing-school
at Worcester : A lion rampant not crowned, with
a bordure bezantee. Another tile has the eagle,
single -headed, displayed.
4. Encaustic tiles at Woodperry, Oxfordshire:
A row of tiles with the lion rampant, apparently
within a bordure, but without the bezants ; fol-
lowed by another row which has the eagle dis-
played, but not double-headed.
5. On an encaustJc tile at Hailes Abbey, Glon-
cestershire, Ibunded by him : The double-headed
eagle only, countercharged.
6. On a tile in the Priory Church of Great Mal-
vern : The double-headed eagle displayed, within
a circular bordure bezantec.
7. On a tile which I have seen, but cannot just
now recollect where : The double-headed eagle,
bezantec, without any bordure.
A curious instance of cx-oiBcio arms added to
the paternal coat, occurs on the monument of
Dr. Samuel BIythe, at the east end of St. Edward's
Church, Cambridge. He was Master of Clare Hall,
and in this example hig paternal arms — Argent, a
chevron gulca, between three lions rampant sable —
occupy the lower part of the shield, being divided
at the fees point by something like an inverted
chevron, from the arms of Clare Hall, which ihua
occupy the upper half of the shield. The date is
1713. Is this way of dividing the arms a blunder
of the painter's, or can any of your readers point
out a similar instance F Nobbis Dbck.
DiMculty of avoiding Coincident Suggestiom on
the Text of Shakspeare. — A correspondent in
Vol.viii., p.]93.,is somewhat unnecessarily severe
on Mr. Collier and Mb. Singbr, for having over-
looked some suggestions in Jackson's work : the
enormous number of useless conjectures in that
publication rendering it so tedious and unprofit-
able to consider them attentively, the student is
apt to think his time better engaged in investi-
gatJng other sources of informatton. I think,
therefore, little of Mb. Coli-ieb overlooking the
few coincident suggestions in Jackson, which are
smaller in number than I had anticipated ; the
real cause for wonder consisting in the ignoring
so many conjectures that have been treated of
years ago, often at great length, by some of the
266
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 203.
most distinguished critics this eoantrj has pro*
daced. Generally speaking, however, there is in
these matters such a tendency for reproduction,
I should for one hesitate to accuse any critic of
intentional unfairness, merely because he puts
forth conjectures as new, when they have been
previously published ; and I have found so many
of my own attempts at emendation, thought to be
original, in other sources, that I now hesitate at
introducing any as novel. These attempts, like
most others, have only resulted occasionally in
one that will bear the test of examination after it
has been placed aside, and carefully considered
when the impression of novelty has worn off. I
think we may safely appeal to all critics who
occupy themselves mucli with conjectural criti-
cism, and ask them if Time does not frequently
seriously impair the complacency with which they
re^rard their efforts on their first production.
Vol. viii., p. 216., contains more instances of
coincident suggestions, R. H. C. indulging in two
conjectures, both supported very ably, but in the
perfect unconsciousness that the first, rude daySj
was long since mentioned by Mr. Dyce, in his
Remarks^ 1844, p. 172. ; and that the second, the
change of punctuation in AlVs Well that JEnds
Well, is the reading adopted by Theobald, and
it is also introduced by Mr. Knight in the text of
his " National Edition," p. 262., and has, I believe,
been mentioned elsewhere. It may be said that
this kind of repetition might be obviated by the
publication of the various readings that have been
suggested in the text of Shakspeare, but who is
there to be found Quixotic enough to undertake
so large and thankless a task, one which at best
can only be most imperfectly executed : the mate-
rials being so scattered, and often so worthless, the
compiler would, I imagine, abandon the design
before he had made great progress in it. No fair
comparison can be entertained in this respect
between the text of Shakspeare and the texts of
the classic authors. What has happened to
R. H. C, happens, as I am about to show, to all
who indulge in conjectural criticism.
Any reader who will take a quantity of disputed
passages in Shakspeare, and happens to be igno-
rant, of what has been suggested by others, will
discover that, in most of the cases, if he merely
tries his skill on a few simple permutations of the
letters, he will in one way or another stumble on
the suggested words. Let us take, for example,
what may be considered in its way as one of the
most incomprehensible lines in Shakspeare —
" Will you go, An-heires f ** the last word being
printed with a capital. Running down with the
vowels from a, we get at once an apparently
plausible suggestion, "Will you go on heref
but a little consideration will show now extremely
unlikely this is to be the genuine reading, and that
Mr. Dyce is correct in preferring Mynheers — a
suggestion which belongs to Theobald, and not,
as he mentions, to Hanmer. But what I main-
tain is, that on here would be the correction that
would occur to most readers, in all probability to
be at once dismbsed. Ms. Collier, nowever, says
"it is singular that nobody seems ever to have
conjectured that on here might be concealed under
An-heires ; ** and it would have been singular had
this been the case ; but the suggestion of on here
is to be found in Theobald's common edition.
Oddly enough, about a year before Ma. Colliee's
volume appeared, it was again suggested as if it
were new.
Let us select a still more palpable instance
(Measure for Measure^ Act 11. Sc. 1.) : " If this
law hold in Vienna ten years. Til rent the fairest
house in it after threepence a 5ay." K this read-
ing be wrong, which I do not admit, the second
change in the first letter creates an obvious altera-
tion, datfy making at least some sort of sense, if not
the correct one. Some years ago, I was rash
enough to suggest day, not then observing the alter-
ation was to be found in Pope*s edition ; and Mb.
CoLUEB has fallen into the same oversight, when he
fives it as one of the corrector's new emendations,
regard these oversights as very pardonable, and
inseparable from any extensive attempt to correct
the state of the text. All Shakspearian conjec-
tures either anticipate or are anticipated.
Mr. Dyce being par excellence the most judi-
cious verbal critic of the day, it will scarcely be
thought egotistical to claim for myself the priority
for one of his emendations — " Avoid thee, friend, '
in the Few Notes, p. 31., a reading I had men-
tioned in print before the appearance of that
work. This is merely one of the many evidences
that all verbal conjecturers must often stumble on
the same suggestions. Even the MS. corrector*s
alteration of the passage is not new, it being found
in Pope's and in several other editions of the last
century; another circumstance that exhibits the
great difficulty and danger of asserting a conjec-
ture to be abs(dutely unknown.
J. O. Haxliwell.
P.S. The subject is, of course, capable of almost
indefinite extension, but the above hasty notes will
probably occupy as much space as you would be
willing to spare for its consideration.
Alcides' Shoes, — There is merit, in my opinion,
in elucidating, if it were only a single word in
our great dramatist. Even the attempt, though
mayhap a failure, is laudable. I therefore have
made, and shall make, hit or miss, some efforts
that way. For example, I now grapple with that
very odd line —
** As great Alcides* shoes upon an ass."
KinyJohn, Act IL Sc. 1.
out of which no one has as yet extracted, or I
think ever will extract, any good meaning : Argal^
Sept. 17. 1
S.]
NOTES AND QtJBKEES.
it is corrupt. No\r it appears to me that the
critic who proposed to read gJiowe, came very
near the truth, and would have hit it completely
if he had retained Akides', for it is the genitive
with rohe understood. To explain :
Austria has on him the "skia-coat" ofCffiur-
de-Lion, and Blanch cries, —
" O '. well did he bccoine tliat lion's robe,
That did disrobe the li<Hi of that robe."
" It lies," observes the Bastard,
" It lies ai Bighll; on the back ofliim {Aailria)
As great Atcides' (robe) shows upon an ass ; —
But, aaa, I'll take that burden ftom four back," &o.
Were it cot that dolk is the luual word in this
flay, I might be tempted to read doe». In read-
in" or actine, then, the casura should be made at
Akides', with a slight pause to give the hearer
time to supply robe. I need not say that the robe
is the lions skin, and that there is an allusioB to
the fable of the ass.
Xow to justify this reading. Our ancestors
knew nothing of our mode of mating genitives by
turned commas. They formed the gen. sing., and
nom. and gen. p!., by simply adding » to the nom.
sing. ; thus iing made kings, kings, kings (not
Silk's, kings, kings'), and the context gave the
case. If the noun ended in ae, ce, she, or eke, the
addition of s added a syllable, as horsee, pri-acti,
&c., but it wus not always added. Shakspeare,
for example, uses Lncrece and cockatrice as ge-
nitives. I find the first instances of such words
as James's, &c,, about (he middle of the seven-
teenth century, but I am not deeply read in old
books, so it may have been used earlier.
In foreign words like Alcidei, no change ever
took place; it was the same for all numbers and
cases, and the explanation was left to the conteit.
Here are a couple of examples from Shakspeare
himself:
" My fortunes every way as fairly ranked —
If not with vantage — as Demetrius."
Midnmmer Night't Driam, Act I. Sc. I.
" To Brutus, to Cassiui. Burn ell. Some to De-
cius hou!e, and Eome to Cascas ; fome to Ligacius.
Away t go ! " — Jiiliua Caiar, Act III. Sc. S.
All here are genitives, as well as Caseas, If any
doubt, Brutus and Cassius, we had just been told,
" Are rid like madmen through the gates of Eome,"
so ikey could not be burned. I say now, juditet
I must not neglect to add that there was an-
other mode of forming the genitive, namely, by
the possessive pronoun, as the king hia palace.
" A ily that flew into my mistress her eye," is the
title of one of Carew's poems.
Thos. Eeightlei.
Zongfelhic's Poetical Works. — One of the best
printed editions of Longfellow's Poetical Works
which has appeared in England is ushered in by
"An Introductory Essay" by the Rev. G. Gilfillan,
A.M. I had lived in hopes, through each suc-
cessive edition, that eitlier the good taste of tbe
publishers would strike out the preface entirely,
or the amended taste of its author curtail some of
its redundancies. As neither has been the case,
but tjie 4th edition of the book now lies before
me, I beg to ofier the following examples :
1. Of Ancient History :
" His [Longrelloo's] ornamenls, unlike those of the
Subiae maid, have not ciuihed him."
2. Of Modern History — Dickens a Poet :
" A prophet may wrap himself up in ausl«re and
drinking.' Tbu> came Sbakspesre, Dryden, Burns,
Scott, Gi^the ; and thui have come in our iaytDickentf
Hood, and Longfellow.''
Is the song of " The Ivy Green " in Piekmck suffi-
cient to justify this appellation? I do not re-
member any other " Poem " by Charles Dickens.
3. Of Metaphors, Out of sixteen pages it ig
dilBcuh to make a selection ; but the lollowing
are striking:
" If not a prophet, (ora hy a lecrtl burdta, and Hllering
U in wild tumultuous strains, .... be has found in-
spiration ... in the legends uf other lands, whose
and delicately cherithed."
" Eicelsion," wg are told, " is one of tliose happy
thoughts which seeiu to drop down, tike fine dayi, from
same serener region, or likt vundlingi of Iht tdt>iial
doot, which meH inata»ttsl lAf ideat of all minds, and run
wi afttruiardt, and for ever, in the current of lie human
heart."
Docs not tliis almost come up to Lord Costle-
reagh's famous metaphor F It certainly goes
beyond Mr. GilBlIan's own praise of Longfellow,
whose sentiment is described as " never false, nor
strained, nor mawkish. It is always mild, . . . and
sometimes it approackes the subiime." Mr. G. goei
one step farther. W. W.
Northamptonshire.
Sir Walter Baleigh.—l End the following re-
monstrance in defence of this distinguished man,
against the imputation of Hume, in a letter ad-
dressed by Dr. Parr to Charles Butler :
<■ Wli; do you follow Hume in representing lUIeigh
as an infidel? For Heaven's sake, dear Sir, look to
bis pre&ce to his Hiilory of the Wbridi look at his
Letter; in a little I8mo., and here, but here only, you
will find a tract [entitled The Sceptic], which led
Hume to talk of Raleigh as an unbeliever. It is an
epitomo of the principles of the old sceptics; and to
me, who, like I>r. Clarke and Mr. Hume, am a reader
368
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 203.
of Sextiis Empiricus, it is very intelligible. Indeed,
Mr. Butler, it is a most ingenious performance. But
mark me well : it is a mere lusua ingenii,**
Mr. Butler appends this note :
''Mr. Fox assured the Reminiscent, that either he,
or Mrs. Fox to him, had read aloud the whole, with a
small exception, of Sir Walter Ra1eigh*s History.** —
Butler's ReminiscenceSf vol. ii. p. 232.
Balliolensis.
Curious Advertisement — The following genuine
advertisement is copied from a recent number of
the Connecticut Couranty published at Hartford in
America :
** Julia, my wife, has grown quite rude.
She has left me in a lonesome mood ;
She has lefl my board,
She has took my bed.
She has gave away my meat and bread.
She has \e£t me in spite of friends and church.
She has carried with her all my shirts.
Now ye who read this paper,
Since she cut this reckless caper,
I will not pay one single fraction
For any debts of her contraction.
Levi Rockwell.
East Windsor, Conn. Aug. 4, 1853,**
G. M. B.
Gravestone Inscription, — I send an inscription
on a gravestone in Northill churchyard, Bedford-
shire, which is now nearly obliterated, given me
by the Rev. John Taddy :
'* Life is a city full of crooked streets.
Death is the market-place where all men meets.
; If life were merchandise which men could buy.
The rich would only live, the poor would die."
Julia R. Bockett.
Southcote Lodge.
Monumental Inscription, —
•* Here lyeth the body of the most noble Elizabeth,
daughter of John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster, own
sister to King Henry the Fourth, wife of John Holland,
Earl of Huntingdon and Duke of Exeter, after married
to Sir John Cornwall, Knight of the Garter, and Lord
Fanhope. She died the 4th year of Henry the Sixth,
Anno Domini 1426.**
The above is on a monument in Burford Church,
in the county of Salop, and will perhaps be inter-
esting to your correspondent Mb. Habdt.
Burford Church, in which there are several
other interesting monuments, is situated in the
luxuriant valley of the Teme, about eight miles
£outh-east of Ludlow. A Salopian.
SIB PHILIP WABWICK.
" A Discourse of Government, as examined by
Reason, Scripture, and the Law of the Land. Written
in 1678, small 8vo. : London, 1694."
** Memoirs of the Reign of King Charles I., &c.y
8vo. : London, 1702."
To oneor the other of these publications there
was prefixed a preface which, as giving ofience to
the government, was suppressed. I a^ree with
Mr. Bindley, who says (writing to Mr. Granger),
'* The account you have given in your books of the
suppressed preface to Sir Philip Warwick's Memoirs, i»
an anecdote too curious not to make one wish it authen.'^
ticatedJ'* — Letters to Mr. Granger, p. 389.
The statement of Granger is adopted also by
the Edinburtrh editor of the Memoirs in 181^
(query, Sir W. Scott ?), who says in his preface,
** These Memoirs were first published by the learned
Dr. Thomas Smith, a nonjuring divine, distinguished
by oriental learning, and his writings concerning the
Greek Church. The learned editor added a preface so-
much marked by his political principles, that he was
compelled to alter and retrench it, for fear of a prose-
cution at the instance of the crown.** -— Preface, p.ix.
So far as concerns the Memoirs. But in a note
prefixed to a copy of the Discourse of Government^
now in the Bodleian among Malone*s books, and
in his handwriting, it is stated,-—*
** This book was published by Dr. Thomas Smitfar, the
learned writer concerning the Greek Church. The
preface, not being agreeable to the Court at the time it
was published (the 5th year of William III.), was sup-
pressed by authority, but is found in this and a few
other copies. Granger says (vol. iv. p. 60., vol. v.
p. 267., new edit) that this preface by Dr. Smith was
prefixed to Sir P. W.*s Memoirs of Charles I. ; but this
is a mistake. Whether Smith was the editor of the
Memoirs I know not — Edmond Malone.'*
The obnoxious preface is assigned to the Dis^
course of Government also, by a writer in the
GentlemaiiLS Magazine for 1790, p. 509., where i*
a portrait of Warwick, and a notice of his life.
The Edinburgh editor of the Memoirs gives the
original preface of that work, which presents no-
thing at which exception could be taken. But as
my copy of the Discourse is one of the few which
(according to Malone) retains the address of " the
publisher to the reader," I transcribe the following
passages, which perhaps will sufficiently explain
the suppression in 1694 :
" As to the disciples and followers of Buchanan,
Hobbs and Milton, who have exceeded their masters in
downright impudence, scurrility, and lying, and the
new modellers of commonwealths, who, under a zealous
pretence of securing the rights of a fancied original
contract against the encroachments of monarchs, are
sowing the seeds of dternal disagreements, confusions,
Sept. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
269
and bloody wars throughout the world (for the influ-
ence of evil principles hath no bounds, but, like infec-
tious air, .spreads everywhere), the peaceable, sober,
truly Christian, and Church-of- England doctrine con-
tained in this book, so directly contrary to their furious,
mad, unchristian, and fanatical maxims, it cannot other-
wise be expected but that they will soon be alarmed,
^nd betake themselves to their usual arts of slander
and reviling, and grow very fierce and clamorous upon
at. Whatever shall happen," &c.
Subsequently the author is spoken of as
•** A gentlemen of sincere piety, of strict morals, of a
^reat and vast understanding, and of a very solid judg-
luent ; a true son of the Church of England, and cori'
tequently a zealous asserter and defender of the truly
^Christian and apostolical doctrine of non-resistance j al-
'ways loyal and faithful to the king his master in the
worst of times,*' &c.
After these specimens, there Tvill be little diffi-
<;ulty, I think, in determining that Granger was
mistaken in describing the preface to the Memoirs
as that which was suppressed, and that it was the
publisher's " address to the reader " of the Dis-
course which incurred that sentence. Dr. Thomas
Smith appears to have edited both works ; and in
-the same address informs us of other works of
Warwick in
■'* Divinity, philosophy, history, especially that of Eng-
^nd, practical devotion, and the like. This I now
publish [the Discourse"] was written in the year 1678
-(and designed as an appendix to his Memoirs of the
Reign of King Charles the First, of most blessed me-
mory, which hereafter may see the light, when more
auspicious times shall encourage and favour the publi-
•cation), which he, being very exact and curious in his
compositions, did often refine upon," &c.
It may be well to inquire whether any of these
theological or philosophical lucubrations are yet
<extant. Was Sir Philip connected at all with
Dr. Smith, or was he descended from Arthur
Warwick, author of Spare Minutes f
Balliolensis.
SEALS or THE BOBOUGH Or GBEAT TABMOUTH.
I shall be exceedingly obliged by any explana-
tory remarks on the following list of seals : —
1. Oval (size 2-1 in. by 1-3). The angel Ga-
l)riel kneeling before a standing figure of the
Virgin, and holding a scroll, on which is inscribed
JLVE MABiA. Legend:
• iji S. HOS * PITALIS * lER * NE * NACH.
Yarmouth was anciently called Gernemutha, or
lernemutha ; and Ives attributes this seal to Yar-
mouth, though both the legend and the workman-
ship have a decidedly foreign appearance.
Can any more satisfactory locality be assigned
It?
2. Circular (1 in. in diameter). Three fishes
naiant (the arms of Yarmouth), within a bordare
of six cusps. Legend :
SAAL D* ASAl D* GRANT GARNAMVT.
Workmanship of about the fourteenth century;
use unknown ; but it has been employed for seal-
ing burgess letters for many years past, until
1847.
Can it have reference to the staple ? (Vid. Sta-
tutes at Large, Anne ; 27 Ed. III. stat. 2. ; 43
Ed. IIL cap. 1. ; 14 Ric. II. cap. 1.)
3. Circular (size I'l in. diameter). On an es-
cutcheon a herring hauriant ; the only instance of
this bearing in connexion with Yarmouth. Legend :
Of this seal nothing whatever is known. Its work-
manship is of the fifteenth century. The sug-
gested extension of the legend is " Sigillum ofiicii
contrarotulatoris " — in nova Jernemutha, or in
nave Jernemuthe. But was Yarmouth ever called
nova Gernemutha f or what was the ofiice alluded
to?
The above are required for a literary purpose ;
and as speedy an answer as possible would much
oblige me. E. S. Taylob*
Hand in Bishop Canning's Church, — In Bishop
Canning's Church, Wilts, is a curious painting
of a hand outstretched, and having on the fingers
and thumb several inscriptions in abbreviated
Latin. Can any correspondent tell me when and
why this was placed in the church ; and also the
inscriptions which appear thereon ?
KUSSELL GOLE*
^* I put a spoke in his ivheel" — What is the
meaning of the phrase, "I put a spoke in his
wheel?"
In April last, a petition was heard in the Kolls
Court on the part of the trustees of Manchester
New College, praying that they might be allowed
to remove that institution to London ; and a single
trustee was heard against such removal. One of
the friends of the college was on this occasion
heard to remark, "the removal to London was
going on very smoothly, and it would have been
done by this time, if this one trustee had not put
his spoke in the wheel :^* meaning, that the con-
scientious scruple of this trustee was the sole iwi-
pediment to the movement Is this the customary
and proper mode of using the phrase ; and, if so,
how can putting a spoke to a wheel impede its
motion ?
On the other hand, having heard some persons
say that they had always understood the phrase to
denote affording help to an undertaking, and con-
fidently allege that this ipust be the older and
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IfOTES AKD QUERIEa
[Na 20S.
more correct usage, for " what," tAj thej, " it a
wheel without rpokes P* I ioqnired of an intel-
ligent lodj-, of long American descent, in what
way 9be had been acenitonied to hear the phrase
emplojed, and the aniwer wa< : " Certaint; as a
help : we Tued to bqj to one who had anjtiung in
hand of difficult aceompliahment, 'Do not be
faint-hearted. Til give you a spoke.' "
Dr. Johnson, in the folio edition of hb Die-
lioaarg, 1755, after defining a spoke to be the
"bar of a wheel that passes from the nave to th«
felly," cites :
•■ All yon godii
In ganenl lynod, talie away h«r power,
Bmk all th* ipoiit and fullin to her wheel.
And bowl (he round nave down Ihe hill of Heaven."
G.K.
Sir W. Hemt. — Al p. 139, of Mr. Thonra's
recent edition of PuIIeyn's El^iaoit^ieal Cimpen-
Hum, Sir W. Hewit, the father-in-law of Edward
Osborne, who was destined lo found the ducal
a elothworker ; others again, that he was a goM-
sniith. Which is correct ; and what is the
authority ? And where may any pedigree of the
Osborne family, previota to Mdieard, be seen ?
H. T. Gbiititb.
P<ui<Ke in Virgil. — Dr. Johnson, in his cele-
brated tetter to liOrd Chesterfield, says, in refe-
rence to the hollownesB of patronage : " The
shepherd, in Virsil, grew at last aeqaainted with
Love ; and found him a native of the rocks." To
what passage in Virgil does Johnson here retkr,
snci what is tiie point intended to be conveyed ?
R. FiTzsiaons.
Dublin.
Faunlleroy. — In Binna' Analamt/ of Sleep it is
stated that a. few years ago an affidavit was taken
In an English court of justiee, to the effect that
FauDtlcroy was still living in a town of the
United States.
Can any of your correspondents refer me to the
rarcumstance in question ? C. Clinton Blbbt.
Animal Prefixes, detcriptive of Size and Qiuditu.
— Will somebody oblige me by pointing out in
the modem lansua^es any analogous instances to
the Greek gor, English Aorw-radish, if»jr-rose, had-
finch, &c. t C. Clittoh Bxbkt.
Punning Devicei.—S\t John Cullum, m his Hist,
qf Haiested, Ist edit. p. 114., says that the seal
of Sir William Clopton, knight, t. Hen. VII-, was
"a ton, out of which issues some plant, perhaps a
caltrop, which might be contracted to the first
syllable of his name.'* This appears to be too
violent a contraction. Cut toy of jtnir readers
suggest aoT other or closer analogy between the
name and device F Bubibhsis.
"Rnece unth a tfink." — In ArrAtashop Bram-
balFs Schiim Ouarded (written against Serjeant)
there is a passage in which the above curions
expression occurs, and of which I can find no sa-
tisfactory, nor indeed any explanation whatever.
The passage is this (Workt, vol. ii. p. 545., edit.
" But when b« ii biflled \a the caiiu. he bath a re-.
■orre, — that Vanerable Bade, and Gildas, and Foie in
his Acts and Monnrnvnti, do bimd the Bvitona for
wioked men, linking them ' as good ai Atheiita ; of
wbieh gang if thii Dlnoth were one,' be 'will odtbar
wish Iha Pop* tueh &iaiil*, noi envy them to the Fro-
lestantB.'
" What needeCh this, when he hath got the worst of
th* oaute, to dareod bimwir like a pima wM ■ Ktot t
Wa read do other oharacter of Diootb, hut as oT a piOM^'
lear— c^ and prudent man."
Can any of your renders furnish an explanttionP
R. BLaiiSTOiT.
Soiled Parchment DeetU. — Having In my pos-
session some old and very dirty parchment deeds,
and other records, now almost ulegible fJrMn tW
accumulation of grease, &c,, on the surface of
the skins, I am desirous to know if there be'
any "royal road" to the clennsinff and restoration
of these otherwise enduring MSC P T. Hdobbb.
Roger WHbratam, E*q'> Ckeihife CoUeetim.
— Can any of your conespon dents say where the
original collection made by the above-named
gentleman, or a copy of them, referred to in Dr.
Foote Gower'a Sketch of Oie Maierials for a
Ckethire SSttorr/, may now he met with 7
Cestribnsii,
Camliri/lffe and Ireland. — In the first volume
of the Pictorial Hiitory of England, p. 270., it is
stated that —
" Marti
iCioned in Domtiday Book
among the commodities brought by eea to Cheiter;
and this nppears from other authorities to have been
one of the esporta in ancient times Trom Ireland. ETo-
ticea are sIbo found of mercbanla from Ireland iandimp
ot Cantbtidgi witli cloths, and expoung ihnt mer-
cbanillie to lale."
The authority quoted for this statement is Turner,
vol. iii. p. 113.
On referring to Turner's Anglo-Saxons, I find
it stated :
" We read of merchants from Ireland landing at_
CtnnbHdffe with etotbs, and etpoaing their merchan-
Mr. Turner refers to Gale, vc4. ii. p. 482.
I do not know to what work Mr. Turner refers,
unless to Gale's Rerum Anglicamm Scrtptoret Ve-
Sept. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
271
teres ; on exammmg this I ean find no passa^ at
the page and Tolume indicated, on the subject.
Can any of your readers state where it is to be
found ? It appears remarkable that the merchants
from Ireland should land at the inland town of
Cambridge, and it seems a probable conjecture
that Cambridge is a mistake for Cambria.
William of Malmesbury speaks of a commence
between Ireland and the neighbourhood of Chester,,
and it seems much more probable that the mer--
chants of Ireland landed in Wales than in Cam^
bridge.^ John Thkupp.
Derivation of Celt. — What, is the proper de-
rivation of the word ceU, a» applied to certain,
weapons of antiquity ? A good airthority, in Zhrr
Smithes Dictionary of Cheek and Itoman AnHqui'-
ties', p. 351., obtains the term from —
*' Celtes, an old Latin word for a chisel, probably
derived from cah, to engrave."
Mr. Wright (T*he Celt, Roman, and Saxon, p. 73.)
says that Hearne first applied the word to such
implements in bronze, believing them to be'
" Bioman celtes or chisels ;" and that —
'* Subsequent writers, ascribing these instruments to
the Britons, have retained the name, forgetting its
origin, and have applied it indiscriminately, not only to
other implements of bronze, but even to the analogous
instruments of stone."
And he objects to the term " as too generalty im-
plying that thizkgs to which it is applied are Celtic"
On the other hand, Dr. Wilson (PreMsioric An-
ncds, p. 129.) prefers to retain the word, inasmuch
as the Welsh etymologists, Owen and Spurrell,
furnish an ancient Cambro-British word eelt, a
flint stone. M. Worsaae (Primeval Antiq.y p. 26.)
confines the term to those instruments of bronze
which have a hollow socket to receive a wooden
handle ; the other forms being called paalstabs on
the Continent. lb seems clear that there is no
connexion between this word and the name of the
nation (JJeltcs) ; but its true origin may perhaps
be elicited by a little discussion in the pages of
" N. & Q." C. R. M.
Ancient Superstition against the King of England
entering or even beholding the Town of Leicester. —
The existence of a superstition to this effect is
recorded in Kishanger's Chronicle, and also, as I
am informed, in that of Thomas Wikes; but this I
have not at present an opportunity of eonsulting.
Rishanger's words are :
" Rex [Henricus III.] autem, capta Norhamptun.,
Leycestr. tendens, in ea hospitatus est, quam nullus
regni praeter eum etiam videre, prohibentibus quibus-
dara superstitiose, praesumpsit.'* — P. 26.
It is also mentioned by Matthew of Westmin-
ster. (Vide Bohn's edition, vol. ii. p. 412.) The
statement, that no king before Henry III. had
entered the town, is however incorrect, as Wilfiam
the Conqueror and King John are instances to the
contrary.
Can any of your correspondents explain the*
origin of this superstition, or favour me with aay
farther notices respecting it ?
It is not unworthy of observation that very
many of the royal personages who have visited
Leicest^, have been either unfortunate in their
lives, or have met with tragical deaths.
We may, however, hope, for the credit of the
town, that their misfortunes may be attributed to
other causes, rather than to their presence within'
it» time-ballowed walls. Wm. Keklt.
Leicester.
Sturtan. — Is there any family of this name wha
can make out a descent from, or connexion with,
& Mr. John Burton, alderman of Doneaster, who
died 1718 ? C. J.
The Camera Ludda. — I should feel ma€tk
obliged to any reader of " IT. & Q.** who would be'
kind enough to answer the following questions,
and refer me to any work treating of the handling
and management of the Camera Lucida.. I have
one made by King of Bristol, and purchased aboat
thirty years ago : it draws out, Gke a tdeseopey
in tm%e pieces, each six inches long ; and at full
length will give a picture of the dimensions oi
twenty inches by twelve. The upper pieee ifr
marked from above downwards, thosr at two
inches below the lens, *' 2 ; '' at an inch below ilMit
point, " 3 ;" at half an inch lower, " 4 ;" at half «*
inch lower still, *'5 ;" half an inch below the point
"5," a "7" is marked ; and half an inch below,
the " 7," there is a " 10 ;" at seven-eighths below
this last, " D " is marked. What reference have
these nicely graduated points to the distance of an,
object from the instrument ? Do the figuresi
merely determine the size of the picture to be
taken? How is one to be guided in their use
and application to practice ? Cajlet^
Francis Moore. — Francis Moore was born at
Bakewell about the year 1592, and was Proetor of
Lichfield Cathedral at the time of the Great RebeK
lion. I am anxious to know who were his parentt^'
and what their place of abode.
Ei^wABD Peacock.
Bottesford Moors, Kirton-in-Lindsey.
Waugh, Bishop of Carlisle. — What were the
family arms of Dr. John Waugh, Bishop of Car-
Hsle, who died October 29, 1734? Was he of a
Scotch family, and are any of his descendants now*
living? RuruB.
Palace at Enfield. — We read that there was
formerly a royal palace at Enfidd in Middlesex^
ten miles north from London ; and one room still
272
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 203.
remains in its original stale. Can you, or any of
your subscribers, inform me whereabouts in the
town it is situated ? Also, the date of erection of
the church ? Hazelwood.
" Solamen miseris,'* §^c. — Please to state in
what author is the following line ? No one knows.
'* Solamen miseris soclos habuisse doloris."
A Constant Eeadeb.
Soke Mills. — Correspondents are requested to
communicate the names of " Soke " or Manorial
Mills, to which the suit is still enforced. S. M.
Second Wife of Mallet, — The second wife of
Mallet was Lucy Elstob, a Yorkshire lady,
daughter of a steward of the Earl of Carlisle.
Can any of your readers inform me at what place
in Yorkshire her father resided, and where the
marriage with Mallet in 1742 took place? She
survived her husband, and lived to the age of
eighty years. Where did she die, and what family
did Mallet leave by hb two wives ? F.
Xteamington.
Books burned hi/ the Common Hangman, —
«* Historia Anglo- Scotica: or an Impartial History
of all that happened between the kings and kingdoms
of England and Scotland from the beginning of the
Reign of WtUiam the Conqueror to the Reign of Queen
Elizabeth, &c., by James Drake, M.D , 8vo., London,
1703.-
Of this work it is said, in a note in the Catalogue
of Geo. Chalmers' library (fourth day's sale,
Sept. 30, 1841), that —
♦« On June 30, 1703, the Scotch parliament ordered
this book to be burned by the hands of the common
hangman, and that the magistrates of Edinburgh should
see it carried into effect at eleven o'clock on the fol-
io nring day.**
Will any correspondent of yours furnish me
with some notice of Dr. Drake, the author, and
also explain the ground of offence upon which his
book was condemned ? I confess to be unable to
discover anything to offend ; neither, as it seems,
could Mr. Surtees, for he says :
" I quote Drake's Historia Anglo- Scotica^ 1 703, a
book which, for what reason I never could discover,
was ordered to be burned by the common hangman."
— History of Durham, vol. iv. p. 55. note L
Any notices of books which have been sifrnalised
by bemg subjected to similar condemnation, would
much interest me, and perhaps others of your
readers. Balliolensis.
[The ground of offence for burning the Historia
Anglo- Scotica is stated in The Acts of the Parliaments of
Scotland, vol. xi. p. 66., viz.: ** Ordered, that a book pub-
lished by the title of Historia Anglo- Scotica, by James
Drake, M. D., and dedicated to Sir Edward Symour,
containing many false and injurious reflections upon
the sovereignty and independence of this crown and
nation, be burnt by the hand of the common hangman
at the mercat Cross of Edinburgh, at eleven o'clock
to-morrow (July 1, 1703), and the magistrates of Edin-
burgh appointed to see the order punctually executed."
It would appear from the dedication prefixed to this
work, that Drake merely pretended to edit it, for he
says, that " upon a diligent revisal, in order, if possible,
to discover the name of the author, and the age of his
writing, he found that it was written in, or at least not
finished till, the time of Charles I." But he says no-
thing more of the MS., nor how it came into his bands.
A notice of Dr. Drake is given in Chalmers's Biogra*
phiccd Dictionary, and in the preface to The Memorial
of the Church of England, edit. 1711, which was also
burnt by the common hangman in 1705. See " N. &
a,*' Vol. iii., p.519.]
Captain George Cusack. — It appears by an
affidavit made by a Mr. Thomas Nugent in the
year 1674, and now of record in the Exchequer
Kecord Office, Dublin, that —
** He, being on or about the 20th of September-
preceding in London, was by one Mr. Patrick Dowdall
desired to goe along with him to see one George
Cusack, then in prison there for severall hainous of-
fences alleadged to have beene by him committed,
which he could not do by reason of other occasions ;
but having within two or three days' afterwards mett
with Mr. Dowdall, was told by him that he had since
their last meeting seene the said Cusack in prison
(being the Marshalsea in Southwark) with bolts on,
and that none of Cusack's men who were alsoe in
prison were bolted : "
that on the 11th of November Cusack was still in
restraint, and not as yet come to his trial :
" That there were hookes written of the said CusacKs
offences, which he heard cryed about in the streets of
London to be sold, and that y* generall opinion and
talke was that the said Cusack should suffer death for
his crimes."
By a fragment of an affidavit made by a Mr.
Morgan O'Bryen, of the ]Middle Temple, London,
it appears that this man was a Captain George
Cusack, who, I presume, was a pirate. May I
take leave to ask, are the above-mentioned books
in existence, and where are they to be found ?
James F. Fbbquson.
Dublin.
[In the British Museum is the following pamphlet:
— « The Grand Pyrate : or the Life and Death of
Captain George Cusack, the Great Sea- Robber, with
an Accompt of all his notorious Robberies both at Sea
and Land; together with his Tryal, Condemnation,
and Execution. Taken by an Impartial Hand.**
London, 1676, pp. 24. 4to.]
Sir Balph Winwood, — I am particularly de-
sirous of obtaining some information respecting
Sept. 1?. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
Sir Ealph Winwood, private secretarj to James I.,
and sbould feel much obliged if any of jour nu-
merous correBpondents would favour me with any-
tliiiig thejr may knon coDcerning biiD, or wilh tbc
titles of any works in wbick his name is mentioned.
H. P. W. R.
[BiograpliicHl notices of Sir Ealph Wjiiwobd will
be found in Biographla Brltannica, Siipplemint ; Lloyd's
Slate WaHhia; Wood's Athena i Gtiagei and Chal-
mers' Biograpliical Dictionaries. Sir F. Drake's Voyage,
by T. Maynarde, ia dedicated to hiin. Letters to him
&om Sir Thomas Roe, in 1615, 1616, are iti the
British Museum, Add. MS. 6tl5. fol. 71. ^S. 146.
And a letter to him from Sit Dudley Carlton will be
found in the Ccntfnnan's Magazine, vol. Ivii. p. 143.
The Diaries of the time of James 1. may also be con-
sulted ; a liit of them is given in " N. & Q.," Vol. Ti.,
p. 363.]
I>ESKS IN CHUKCHES.
(VoLviii., p.93.)
The authority for this ancient custom appears
to be derived from an act of the ConYOcatioo which
aasembled in 1562. Strype informs us (Annals,
Tol. i. e. 27.J that at this Convocation the follow-
ing injunctions were given :
"First, That a Catechism be set fortli in Latin,
which is already done by Mr. Bean of Paul's [Dean
Nowell], and wantetli only viewing. Secondly, That
ceruin Articles [the Thirty-nine Articles], containing
the principal grounds of Christian religion, be set forth
much like to sueli Articles as were set forth a little
before the death of King Edward, o! which Articles
the most part may be used wilh additions and correc
lions as shall be thought convenient, lliirdly. That
to these Articles also be adjoined the jtpolap;/, nrit by
Bishop Jevell, lately set Tortb after it, hatb been once
again revised and so augmented and corrected as occa-
sion serveth. That these be joined in one t>ook ; and
by common consent authorised as containing true doc-
trine, and be enjoined to be taught the youth in the
Universities and grammar scliools throughout ihe
realm, and also in cathedral churches, and collegiate,
and in private houses : and that wbosoever shall preach,
declare, write, or speak anything in derogation, de-
praving or despising of the said hook, or any doctrine
therein contained, and be thereof lawfully convicted
before any ordinary, &c., he shall be ordered as in case
of heresy, or else shall be punished as is appointed for
those that offend and speak against the Book of Com-
mon Prayer, set forth In Ibe first year of the Queen's
Majesty's reign that now is : that is to say, be shRll
Kir the grst offence forfeit 100 marks ; for the second
olTence, 400 marks; and fur the third o9'.:nce, all his
piods and chattels, and shall suffer imprisonment
during life."
It is probable that this book found a place in
churches as alFording a standard of orthodoxy
easy of reference to congregations in times not
sufficlenllv remote from the Beformation, to render
the preacning of BomiEh doctrines unlikelv . This,
if the surmise be correct, would be empnatically
to brin^ the officiating minister to hook. In Frest-
wich Church, the deslc yet remtuns, tc^ether with
the " Book of Articles, bound up as prescribed
with Jewel's Apology (black-letter, 1611), but the
chain has disappeared. The neighbouring church
of Bingley has also its desk, to which the chain is
still attached; hut the "Book of Articles" has
given place to some more modern volume.
JOBH BoOBSK-
Prestwich.
Mb. Simpson will find some account of the
Paraphrase of Erasmui so chained fof which he
says he cannot reeal an instance) at Yol i., p, 172.,
and Vol. v., p. 332.
The following list (remains of which more or
less perfect, with chains appended, tire still ex-
tant) will probably be interesting to many of your
readers;
" Boeii chained In the Chmch, 25lh April, 1606.
Dionisius Carthusian vpon the Nev Testament, in
two volumes,
Origen vpon St. Paules Epistle to the Itoinanes.
Origen against Celsus.
Lira vpon Fenlalhucke of Moses.
Lira vpon the Kings, &c.
Theopbilact vpon the New Testam'.
Beda vpon Luke and other P" of the Testam'.
Opuscula Augustini, Ihome i.
Augustini Questiones in Nouu Testamentii.
The Paraphrase of Erasmus.
The Defence of Ihe Apologye.
Prleriua Postill vpon the Dominicall Gospells."
From Ecclesfield Church accounts.
J. Easxvood.
Comber's Companion to the Temple,
a desk, and bearing a written inscripnuu w mn
effect that it should never be removed out of the
church ; but sbould remain chained to its desk
for ever, for the use of any parishioner ivho might
choose to come in and read it there.
N. B. I have mislaid my copy of this inscrip-
tion ; aud should feel greatly obliged to any of
your correspondents who may be residing in or
near Great Malvern, for a transcript of it. As it
may be thought somewhat long lor your pages,
perhaps some correspondent would kindly copy it
out for me, and inclose it to Rev. H. T. Gbiffith,
Hull.
University Club.
EPITAPHS.
(Vol. vii. ^XMJim.)
A goodly collection of singular epitaphs has ap-
peared in " N. & Q." ; but I believe it yet lacks
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 203.
a specimen of the fbAowing^tombstoire tomfoolery
-—an initial epitapb. Green, in bis History cf
Worcester^ gives toe following inscription from a
monument nnder the north-west wmdow of St.
Andrew's Church in that city :
« Short of Weight.
U L T B O
R W
I H O A J R
A D 1780 A 63.*
Green adds the following explanation of this
riddle :
** In fuU measure it would hare stood thus : < Here
Lieth The Body Of Richard Weston, En Hopes Of A
•Toyfiil Besurreetion. Anno Domini 1780. Aged C3J*'
Richard Weston was a baker, and the ** Short
of weight** ^ves the doe to the natnre of his
dealings, and also to the right reading of the
epitaph.
The following is from Ombersley Churchyard,
Worcestershire :
" Sharp was her wi^
Mild was her nature ;
A tender wife,
A good humoured creaiote^**
From the churchyard of St. John^ Worcester :
" Honest John's
Dead and gone.'*
From the churchyard of Cofton Haekett, Wor-
cestershire, are the two following' :
*< Here lieth the body of John Galcy, se&, in eipact-
ation of the Last Day. What sort of man be was that
day will discover. He was clerk of this parish fifty-
five years. He died in 1756, aged 75."
The next is also to a Galey. Your correspondent
FiCTOB (Vol. yiii., p. 98.) gives the same epitaph,
slightly altered, as being at Wingfield, SufiTo^ :
" Pope holdly asserts (some think the maxim oddy,
An honest man's the noblest work of Gc».
If this assertion is from error dear.
One of the noblest works of Goo lies here.""
From Alvechurch, Worcestershire ; to a man
and wife :
** He, an honest, good-natured, worthy man ; she, as
emUient for conjugal and maternal virtues during her
marriage and widowhood, as she had been befiue for
amiable delicacy of person and manners."
The following, which is probably not to be sur^
passed, appeared in one of the earliest numbers of
Household Words, It is from the churchyard of
Pewsey, Wiltshire :
" Here lies the body of Lady 0*Looney, great-niece
of Burke, commonly called the Sublime. She was
bland, passionate, and deeply religious : also, she
painted in water-colours, and sent several pictures to
the Exhibition. She
and of such is the kingd<
first eousm Ca Lady Jones r
Or facsren.
CuTHBXBrr Beds, B.A.
If epitaphs of recent date are admitted m "N.
& Q,,** peniaps the following, upon an editor, which
lately appeared in the Hmifax Colonist^ may not
be out of place in your publication :
** Here Kes an editor t
Stioois if you will ;
In mercy, kind Pioridcncey
Let hira lie j<iS.
He lied tot \as Hving : so
He Utred, while be Ued,
When he ceutd Hot tit hngtrf
He lied down^ and died."
W. W.
Malta.
" Here lies a Wife, a Friend, a Mother,
I believe there never was such another ;
She had a head to earn and a heart to give.
And many poor she did relieve.
She lived in virtne and in virtue died.
And now in Heaven she doth reside*
Tes ! it is true as tongue can tell,
If she had a fault, it was loving me too well.
And when I am tying by her side.
Who was m lift^ her daily pride,
Tho* she's confined in cofl(ns Ihree,
She*d leave them all and. cone te me ! **
The above lines, written on a tablet ki* a ehtwch
at Exeter, were composed by Mr. Tockett, tafiow-*
chancQer, to the memory of his wife. An old sub-
scriber of *N. & Q.** thinks this epitaph more
strange and curious than any whidi has yet ap-
peared in the columns of that valuable pubficalion.
Anok.
PASOCHIAI. laBBARtES.
(VoL viL, p. 507.)
I copy the following^ from the fly-leaf of A
Treatise of Eedesiastical Benefices and Eevenaes^
by the learned Father Paul, translated by Tobias
Jenkins, 8vo., Westminster, 1736 :
** Bibliotbeca de Bassingbourn in Com. Gant. Ddoa
dedit Edvardus Nightingale de Kneesewortb Armiger
Filius et H«res Fundatoris. FeU 1™>, 1735**."
How the volume got out of the library I know-
not : it was purchased some years since at a sale
in Oxford. Y. B. N. J.
To the list of narochml libraries allow me ta
add that of Denchworth, near Wantage, Berks.
In a small apartment over the porch, the parvise^
I recollect, some years since, to have seen a very
fair collection of old divinity, the books being, all
of them, confined by chains^ according to the
ancient usage, an mstance of which I never saw
elsewhere.
Sept. 17. 1853.]
KOTES AND QTJERIEa
At St. Peter's Chnrcb, Tiverton, there i« aho a
collection of books, mostly the gift of the Newtea,
Biehsrd (rejected in 1646 and restored in 166C),
and John his son, rector* of the portions of Tid-
combe and Clitre 'm that church. The books are
preserred Jn a room otet the vestry.
£ALLIOI.SnBIS.
Another venxraMe archdeacon now living per-
mitted the chnrchivardena of Swaffham to give
hiin a fine copy of Cranmer'a Bible helongiiig to
the church library. S. Z. Z. S.
Add to the list Finedon, in Northamptonshire,
where there is a collection of upwards of 1000
volumes in the parvise over the porch. E. H. A.
" UP, GUABDS, AMD AT THEM I
(Vol. v^ p. 426. ; Tol.viii., pp. ill. 184.)
The authority for the Duke of Wellington hav-
ing used these words at the battle of Waterloo is
Capt. Batty, of the Grenadier Guards, in a letter
written a few days alter the battle, published in
Booth's Batde of Waterloo, and Hlustrated by
George Jones, Esq., R.A., who is believed to have
superintended the whole publication. I append
the extract: —
^' Upon the ciffflry btiug r^uUed, the Duke him-
self ordered OUT Hcond bstulion to form line with tb«
thirJ battalion ; and, after ndvsncing to tba brov of
the liill, to lie down and sheltei ouTidTeg horn tb« fiie.
Here ire TemaiDed, I imagine, near an bour. It was
now abaut seven o'clock. The French infantry haJ in
vun been brought against our line i and, u a hit
reaource, Buonaparte resolfed tipon attacking our part
irf tb* position with hii veteian Imperial Guard, pro-
mising them the ^under of Btuwels. Their artillery
and the; advanced in solid column to wb«re ve ley.
The I>itke, wbo was riding behind us, watched their
approach ; and at length, when within a hundred yards
of us, exclaimed 'Up, guards, and at them again!'
Never was there a prooder moment than this fw out
country or Dursetres," &c. — Second Letter of Capt.
Batty, Grenadier Guards, dated June 3S. 1815, from
the village of Gommignies ; his Fir&t Letter being
dated Bavay, June 31, 1815.
This circumstantial account, written so few days
after the battle, deta,iling affirmatively the com-
mand to the guards as heard by one of themselves,
will probably countervail the negative testimony
of C. as derived from the Duke's want of reeol-
lection: as well as the "Goodly Botherby's" of
Mr. Cutbbert Bbse, As an instance of the
Duke's impressions of tlie battle, I may add, that
he stated that there was no smoke, though Mr.
Jones told ^e, that when he was on the ground
two days afterwards the smoke was still hanging
over it. Fbase Howard.
PBOTOaBAPHIC COKKBBPOICBKircB.
Mr. MvBer'a Proceu. — Mb. Sisson inquires
for any one's experience in the use of the above
formula, and I b^ to say I remember when it wa>
published I tried it, but gave it up. It is an excel-
lent plan, but requires improvement. The follow-
ing were my objections :
If the objects are not trell illuminated by the
sun, the imz^e is not sharp. The skies taken are
singularly the reverse of the iodide- of-potash roe-
thod, as they are almost transparent
The xdulions of iron are a constant trouble by
precipitating.
It has the same disadvantages as other modes
on paper from inequality in the strength of the
image. The phott^apluc pons aahtorum appears
however to be got over by the process, vii^ takkg
the picture at once in the camera; and it is verr
possible that it can be made perfect. A maU-
rintity of chromate of potash, about one grwn tv
ee ounces of solution of iodide of inm, give* k-
little more force to the picture.
I find the nitrate of lead a very useful salt in
iodising pnper. Six grains of the salt to the
ounce oi water, and tincture of iodine added till
a pale yellow, will give additional sensitiveness to
iodized paper, if the sheets are floated npoo tW
solution. This will shorten the time in thecsiacTS
nearly five imnntes ; but it requires core, as it iB
apt to Bolariib
A weak solution of iodide of iron has also the
same eltect, and, if blotted ofT at once, it vrill miC
blacken by the use of gallic acid. Wiu> TAn.(n.
Stereoscopic AngUt. — When I last i
you, I fancied I should set the Btereo8CO{nc-an^e
trnestbn at rest. It appears, however, that Mm. G.
SHADBOLT IS unconvinccd ; and as I ^one (to the
best of my knowledge) have defined and solred
the problem in relation to this subject, you will
perhaps allow me to offer a few words in rejoinder
to Mr. S.'s arguments ; which, had that gentle-
man thought more closely, would not have been
advanced. This is also requisite, because, fi«m
their speciousness, they are likely to mislead such'
as take what they read for granted. Mb. S. says
that when the stereographs are placed at the same
distance from the eyes as the focal length of the
lens, that 2J inches is the best space for the
cameras lo Iw apart ; and that were this space
increased, the result would be .ts though the pic-
tures were taken from models. To this I reply,
that the only correct space for the cameras to be
apart is 2^- inches (i. e. the space usually found to
be from pupil to pupil of our eyes), wid this
under every circumstance ; and that any depar-
ture from this muat produce error. As to the
model-like appearance, I cannot see the reason of
276 NOTES AND QUERIES, [No. 203.
it. Next Me. SHiDBOLr aajs, nuil rightly, tliat Ammoaio-nilrate of Sileer. — The inability of
when the pictures ore seen from a less distance your correspondent Puilo-pho. to form the am-
thnn the focal lennth of the lens, thej appear to m on io -nitrate of silver from a solution of nitrate
be increased in bulk. But the "obvious remedy" of silver, which has been used to excite albu-
I pronounce to be wrong, as it must produce menjzed paper, is in all probability owing to the
error. The remedy is nevertheless obvious, and presence of a smalt quantity of nitrate of am-
consists in placing tbe stereographs at the same mania, which has been imparted to the solution
distance from the eyes as the focal length of the by the paper,
lens. But, if this cannot be done, it were surely Salts of ammonia form, with those of silver,
better to submit to some trifling exaggeration double salts ; from which the oxide of silver is
than to absolute deformity and error. Ma. S. not precipitated by the alkalies,
says also, that as we mainly judge of distance, &c. I cannot hovrever explain liow it was that tbe
by the convergence of the optic axis of our eyes solution had lost none of its silver, for the paper
(Query, Howdopersonswithonlyoneeyejudge?), could not in such case have been rendered aenai-
so, in short or medium distances, it were belter tive. J. Lbachhar.
to let the camera radiate from its centre to the go. Compton Terrace, Islington.
pnncipal object to he delineated. The result of
this must be error, as the folloning iUustration
will show. Let the sitter (for it is especially re- u^ti.* »« juif-n^ <ia.<»(arf
commmded i. poilr.io) hold b.fore him, tori- *•>"" '" *"»" ^"'l^
zontally, and in parallelism with the picture, *a Sir Thomas Elgot (Vol. viii., p. 220.). — Parti-
niler two feet lon^ ; and let planes parallel to the culars respecting this once celebrated diplomatist
ruler pass through the sitter's ears, eyes, nose, and scholar may be collected from Beroefs Hilt.
ftc. The consequence would be that the ruler, and Reformation, ed. 1841, i. 95,; Strype's Ecdetiat-
all the other planes parallel to it, would have two tical Memorials, i. 221. 2G3., Append. No.LXIL;
vanishing points, and all the features be errone- Ellis's Letters, ii, 113.; Archieologia, xxxiii.;
ously rendered. This, to any one conversant with Wright's Suppression of Mamateriea, 140. ; Ze-
perspective, should suffice. But, aa all are not landi Encomia, 83. ; Leiand's CoUectanea, iv. 136
acquainted with perspective, perhaps the follow- — 148. ; Jtetroipective Review, ii. 381. ; FringPurge
ing illustration may prove more convincing. Sup- Expenses of Princess Mary, 82.230.; Chamber-
pose an ass to stand facing tlie observer; a boy hiiu'a Holbein Heads i Smith's AtUographs ; Ful-
astrlde him, with a big drum placed before him. ler's Worthies (Cambridgeshire) ; Wood's Atkenre
Now, under the treatment recommended by Me. Oxonienses, i, 58. ; Lysons' Cambridgeshire, 159.
G,_ Sbadbolt, both sides of the oss would be The grant of Carlton cum Willingham in Cam-
visible; both the boy's legs; and the drum would bridgeshire to Sir Thomas Elliot and his wife is
have two heads. I'his would ba untrue, absurd, enrolled in tbe Exchequer (UiHgiaalia, 32 Hen.
ridiculous, and quite as wonderful es Mr. Fenton's VIIL, para 3. rot. 22, vei 221 ,) ; and amongst tbe
twelve-feet span view from across the Thames. Inquisitions filed in that Court is one taken after
Once more, and I shall have done with the pre- his death (Cant, and Hunt., 37 ve! 38 Hen. VIIT.).
sent arguments of Mn, G. Shadbolt. He aays \ believe it will be found on investigation, that
that the two pictures should have exactly the Sir Richard Elyot (the father of Sir Thomas) waa
same range of vision. This I deny : for, were it of Wiltshire rather than of Suffolk. See Leiand's
so, there would be no stereoscopic effect. Let the CoHectaneo, iv. 141. n., and an Inquisition in tbe
object be a column : it is evident that a tangent to Exchequer of the date of 6 or 7 Hen. VIH, thus
the left aide of the column from the right eye, described in the Calendar : " de manerro de Wan-
could not extend so far to the left as a tangent borough com. Wiltesproficua cujuamanerii Ricar-
10 the left side of the column from the left eye, dus ETiot percepit." C, H. Coofxb.
and vice verxS. And it is only by this difference Cambridge
in the two pictures (or, in other words, the range
of vision) that our conceptions of solidity are Judges styled" Reoerend" (yo\.viu.,p.lSS.'). —
created. This is not exactly the test to suit the As it ii more than probable that your pages may
views of Mb. Shai>bolt, as I am quite aware ; in future he referred to as authority for any state-
but I chose it for its simplicity, and because it will ment they contain, especially when the fact they
bear demonstration; and my desire has been to announce is vouched by so valued a name as that of
elicit truth, and not to perpetuate error. my friend Yobk IIsrau}, I am sure that he will
In conclusion, I beg to refer Ma. G. Shadbolt excuse me for correcting an error into whii^ he
to my definition and solution of the stereoscopic has fallen, the more especially as Lord Campbell
problem — which I then said I believed — but is equally mistaken (Ztird C/ianceHori, i. 539.).
which I now unhesitatingly Oisert to be correct. Yohk Herald states, that " Anthony Fitz-Hcr-
T. L. Mabbiott. bert was appointed Chief JusUce of the Common
Sept. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
277
Pleas in 1523, and died in 30 Henry VIH." Fitz-
Herbert was never Chief Justice, He was made
a judge of the Common Pleas in 1522 ; and so
continued till his death at the time mentioned,
1538. During that period, the office of Chief
Justice of the Common Pleas was successively held
by Sir Thomas Brudenell till 1531, by Sir Robert
Norwich till 1535, and then by Sir John Baldwin,
who was Chief Justice at the time of Fitz-Herbert*s
death.
William Rastall (afterwards Judge), in the
early part of his career, joined his iathcr in the
printing business, and there are several books
with his imprimatur. It was during that time
probably that he formed the table to the Natura
Brevium of Anthony Fitz- Herbert, mentioned in
the title-page to York H£bald*s volume.
Edwasb Foss.
*^ Hurrah'^ and other War-cries (Vol. vii.,
pp. 595. 633. ; Vol. viii., pp. 20. 88.). — Hurrah is
the war-cry of many nations, both in the army and
navy. The Dutch seem to have adopted it from
the Russians, poeta invito, as we see in the follow-
ing verses of Staring van den Wildenborg :
« Is 't lioera ? Is 't lioera ?
IrVat drommcl kan 't u schelen ?
Brul, smeek ik, geen Kozakken na !
Als Fredrik*s batterijen spelen —
Als Willem*s trommen slaan
Blijv' Ncerland's oorlogskreet : * Val aan 1*
Waar jong en cud de vreugd der overwinning deelen,
Bij Quatre-Bras* trofee,
Blijve ons gejuich Hoezeef^*
Accept or reject this doggerel translation :
** Is it hurrah ? Is it hurrah ?
What does that concern you, pray ? }
Howl not like Cossacks of the Don ! '
But, when Fredericks batteries pour — *
When William's drums do roar —
Holland's war-cry still be : * Fall on I*
When old and young
Raise the victor's song.
At Quatre-Bras' trophy.
Let Huzzah our joy-cry be !"
Hoera (hurrah) and hoezee (huzza), then, in
the opinion of Staring, and indeed of many others,
have not the same origin. Some have derived
hoezee from hausse, a French word of applause at
the hoisting (Fr. hausser) of the admiral's flag.
Bilderdijk derives it from Hussein, a famous
Turkish warrior, whose memory is still celebrated.
Dr. Brill says, " hoezee seems to be only another
mode of pronouncing the German juchhe'^ Van
Ipercn thinks it taken from the Jewish shout,
*' Hosanna ! " Siegenbeek finds " the origin of
hoezee in the shout of encouragement, *Hou zee !'
(hold sea)." Dr. Jager cites a Flemish author,
who says " that this cry (' hou zee,' in French,
Hens mer) seems especially to belong to us ; since
it was formerly the custom of our seamen always
^zee te houden' (to keep the sea), and never to
seek shelter from storms." Dr. Jager, however,
thinks it rather doubtful ** that our hoezee should
come from ^ hou zee,* especially since we find a
like cry in other languages." In old French huz
signified a cry, a shout ; and the verb huzzer, or
hucher, to cry, to shout ; and in Dutch husschen
had the same meaning. — From the Navorscher,
Major Andre (Vol. viii., p. 174.). — The sisters
of Major Andr^ lived until a comparatively very
recent date in the Circus at Bath, and this fact
may point Sebviens to inquiries in that city.
. T. F.
In reply to Sbevieks's Query about Major
Andre, I beg to inform him that there is a good
picture of the Major by Sir Joshua Reynolds in
the house of Mrs. Fenning, at Tonbridge Wells,
who, I have no doubt, would be enabled to give
him some particulars respecting his life.
W. H. P.
Early Edition of the New Testament (Vol. viii.,
p. 219.). — The book, about which your corre-
spondent A. BoARDMAN inquires, is an imperfect
copy of Tyndale*s Version of the New Testament :
probably it is one of the first edition ; if so, it was
printed at Antwerp in ld26 : but if it be one of
the second edition, it was printed, I believe, at
the same place in 1534. Those excellent and
indefatigable publishers, Messrs. Bagster & Sons,
have within the last few years reprinted both
these editions ; and if your correspondent would
apply to them, I have no doubt but they will be
able to resolve him on all the points of his inquiry.
F. B w.
Ladies' Arms home in a Lozenge (Vol. vii.,
p. 571. ; Vol. viii., pp. 37. 83.). — As this question
IS still open, I forward you the translation of an
article inserted by me in the first volume of the
Navorscher. Lozenge-formed shields have not
been always, nor exclusively, used by ladies ; for,
in a collection of arms from 1094 to 1649 (see
Descriptive Catalogue of Impressions from Scottish
Seals, by Laing, Edinburgh) are many examples
of ladies' arms, but not one in which the shield has
any other form than that used at the time by
men. In England, however, as early as the four-
teenth century, the lozenge was sometimes used
by ladies, though perhaps only by widows. Nisbet
(System of Heraldry, ii. 35.) mentions a lozenge-
formed seal of Johanna Beaufort, Queen Dowager
of Scotland, attached to a parchment in 1439;
while her arms, at an earlier period, were borne
on a common shield (Gent, Mag., April, 1851).
In France the use of the lozenge for ladies was
very general ; yet in the great work of Flacchio
(Qenealogie de la Maison de la Tour) are found
several hundred examples of ladies* arms on oval
NOTES AND QUEfilES.
[No. 803.
lUeMs ; and La Vredii Otaeaiogia e
HJFlati'
r hand, loienges hftve aametimet b«en
tuedbrmen: forinBtaDce, onaBealofFerdinuid,
la&nt of Spain, in Yredius, 1. c. p. I4S. ; also on
ft dollar of Count Maurice of Hanau, in Eohler'a
Muntxbebatig. 14. See acatn the arms of the
Count of Sickmgen, in Siebmacher, Suppl. xi. 2.
So muuh for tbe use of the lozenEe. Moat ex-
planations of its origin appear equallj far-fetched.
Tliit of Meneatrier, in his Pratique det Armoires
(p. 14.), seenu to me the least forced. He derires
the French name toxange from the Dutch lofzang:
" In Holland," he «y», " the custom prerails every jear,
!n Maj-, to affii ^ena and lofianprn (songs of praiie)
in louiige-rormed tablets on the doors of newly-made
■ugUtralSB. Young mea hung such tablet! on the
doors of th«r sweethearts, or newly-married persoos.
Abo on the death of distinguished persons, loienge-
shaped pieces of blacli cloth or veltet, vllh the arms,
name, and date of the death ot the deceased, were ei-
hibited an the front of the liouse. And since ihtre %b
SOU U, bt laid of women, cicrpt on their mam'ajie or
thatk,Jortkitna,o<thaiitbicome cuiiomary on all otra-
tioiu (o hh/ot 1A(ii tht lozengt-xhaptd ihitUt."
In confirmation of this ma; be mentioned, that
fbrmerlj lozoage and hzanger were used in the
French for lo'uange and lover; of nhich Menes-
trier, in tbe above-quoted work (p. 431.), cites
veveral instances.
Besides the conjectures mentioned by H. C. K.
KoA Bboctch*, may be cited that of Laboureur :
who Ands both the form and the name in the
Greek word ^ayinio^ (ozetige with the article,
toxenge) ; and of Scaliger, who discovers lautan-
gw in laurangia, lauri folia. See farther, Bemd.
Wapenweaen, Bonn, 1841, John Scott.
Norwich.
Sir WiUirm Mank/ord (Vol. ii., p. 161. &e.).
— Tour learned correspondent Mb, Edwabd
Fobs proves satisfactorily that Sir W. Gascoigne
was not retained in bis office of Chief Justice by
King Hen. V. But Mb, Foss seems to have over-
looked entirely the Devonshire tradition, which
represents Sir William Bankford (Gascoigne's
successor) to be the judge who committed Prince
Henry. Risdon (b. Bulkworthy, Sunty of Devon,
ed, 1811, p. 246.), after mentioning a chapel built
by Sir W. Hankford, gives this account of the
matter:
" This !i that deserving judge, that did justice upon
the king's son (afterwards King Henry V.), who. when
he was yet prince, commanded him to free a servant
of his, arrugned for felony at the king's bench bar;
whereat the judge replied, he would not. Herewith
tha prince, enraged, essayed himself to enlarge the
priiaiMr, but the judge fortiad ; insomuch as the princ*
in fury stept up to the bench, and gave the judge
a blow on the face, who, nothing thereat daunted, toli
him boldly : ' If yon will not obey your soTereign^
laws, who iliall obey you when you shall be king?
Wherefore, in the king's (your latber'a) name, I cont.
mand you prisoner to the king's bench.' Whenat the
prince, abashed, departed to prinn. When King^
Henry IV„ his iatUer, was advertised thereof (** &at
flieth fame), after he bad examined the circumstances
of the matter, he rejoiced to hare a tan so obedient to
hit laws, and a judge of such integrity to administer
Justice without fear or favour of the person ; but withal
dismissed the prince from his place of president of the
council, which he conferred an his second son,"
Bisdon makes no mention of SirW. Hankford's
being retained in office by King Henry V. But
at p. 277., V. Monkleigh, ne gives the traditional
ftocount of Hankford's death (anno 1422), which
represents the judge, in doubt of his safety, and
mistrusting the sequel of the matter, to have com-
mitted suicide by requiring his park-keeper to
shoot at him when under tbe aemblance of a
poacher :
" Which report (Risdon adds) is so credible amosg
the common sort of people, that they eao show the tree
yet growing where this fact was committed, known by
the name of Hankibrd Oak."
J. Saxgoil.
Mauiliea, MaaUlai (Vol, vU,, |>, 53S,),— W.H. S.
will probably find some of the intbrmatioo which
he aska for in Tu>o Euays on the Ring-Jtft/ney of
the Celta, which were read in the year 1837 to
the members of the Royal Irish Academy by Sit
William Betham, and in some observations on
these essays which are to be found in the Oentle-
matii Magazine of that year, Dnring the years
1S36, 1837, and 183S, there were made at Bir-
miogham or the neighbourhood, and exported from
Liverpool to the river Bonney in Africa, large
quantities of cail-iron rings, in imitation of the
copper rings known as "Manillas" or "African
ring-money," then made at Bristol, A vessel
from Liverpool, carrying out a considerable quan-
tity of these cast-iron rmgs, was wrecked on the
coast of Ireland in the summer of IB36. A few
of them having fallen into the hands of Sir
William Betham, he was led to write the Eaeagt
before mentioned. The making of these cast-iron
rings has been discontinued since the year 1S38,
in consequence of the natives of Africa refusing to
give anything in exchange for them. From in-
quiry which 1 mada in Birmingham in the vear
1839, I learnt that more than 2£0 tons of these
cast-iron rings had been made in that town and
neighbourhout in the year 1838, for the African
market. The captain of a vessel trading to Africa
informed me in the same yenr that the Black
Despot, who then ruled oa the banks of the river
Bonney, had threatened to mutilate, in a way
wluch I will not describe, any one who should
be detected in landing these counterfeit rings
within lus territories. N. W. S. '
Sept. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
279
The Use of the Hour-glass in Pulpits (VoL vii.,
p. 589. ; VoL viii., p. 82.). — Your correspondent
A. W. S. baying called attention to the use of the
hour-glass in pulpits (Vol. viL, p. 589.), I beg to
mention two instances in which I have seen the
stands which formerly held them. The first is at
Filton Church, near Barnstaple, Devon, where it
still (at least very lately it did) remain fixed to
the pulpit; the other instance is at Tawstock
Church (called, from its numerous and splendid
monuments, the Westminster Abbey of jN'orth
Devon), but here it has been displaced, and I saw
it lying among fragments of old armour, banners,
&c., in a room above the vestry. They were
similar in form, each representing a man s arm,
cut out of sheet iron and gilded, the hand holding
the stand ; turning on a hinge at the shoulder it
lay flat on the panels of the pulpit when not in
use. When extended it would project about a
yard. BALLioiiENSis.
George Poulson, Esq., in his History and Anti'
quities of the Seignory of Holdemess (vol. ii.
p. 419.), describing Keyingham Church, says
that —
'* The pulpit is placed on the south-east corner ;
beside it is an iron frame-work, used to contain an
hour-glass."
Edwabd Peacock.
Bottesford Moors, Kirton-in-Lindsey.
Derivation of the Word ^^ Island" (Vol. viii.,
p. 209.). — Your correspondent C. gives me credit
for a far greater amount of humour than I can
honestly lay claim to. He appears (he must ex-
cuse me for saying so) to have scarcely read
through my observations on the derivation of the
word island^ which he criticises so unmercifully ;
and to have understood very imperfectly what he
has read. For instance, he says that my " deri-
vation of island from eye, the visual orb, because
each are (sic) surrounded by water, seems like
banter,** &c. Had I insisted on any such analogy,
I should indeed have laid myself open to the
charge ; but / did nothing of the hind, as he will
find to be the case, if he will take the trouble of
perusing what I wrote. My remarks went to
show, that, in the A.-S. compounded terms, Ea-
londf Igland, &c., from which our word island
comes, the component ea, ig, &c., does not mean
water, as has hitherto been supposed to be the
case, but an eye; and that on this supposition
alone can the simple ig, used to express an island,
be explained. Will C. endeavour to explain it in
any other way ?
Throughput my remarks, the word isle is not
mentioned. And why ? Simply because it has
no immediate etymological connexion with the
word island, being merely the French word na-
turalised. The word isle is a simple, the word
island a compound term. It is surely a fruitiest
task (as it certainly ia unnecessary for any one^
with the latter word ready formed to his hand in
the Saxon branch of the Teutonic, and, from its
very form, clearly of that family), to go out of his
way to torture the Latin into yielding something
utterly foreign to it. My bebef is, that the re-
semblance between these two words is an acci-
dental one ; or, more properly, that it is a question
whether the introduction of an s into the word
island did not originate in the desire to assimilate
the Saxon and French terms. H. C. K.
A Cob'WaU (Vol. viii., p. 151.). — A "cob" is
not an unusual word in the midland countiesj
meaning a lump or small hard mass of anything :
it also means a blow ; and a good " cobbing " is
no unfamiliar expression to the generality of school-
boys. A " cob-wall," I imagine, is so called from
its having been made of heavy lumps of clay,
beaten one upon another into the form of a wau.
I would ask, if " gob," used also in Devonshire
for the stone of any fruit which contains a kernel,
is not a cognate word ? W. Fbassb.
Tor Mohun.
Oliver CromweWs Portrait (Vol. vi. passim), —
In reference to this Query, the best portrait of
Oliver Cromwell is in the Baptist College her^
and 500 guineas have been refused for it.
I am not aware if it is the one alluded to by
your correspondents. The picture is small, and
depicts the Protector without armour : it is by
Cooper, and was left to its present possessors by
the Rev. Andrew Gifford, a Baptist minister, in
1784.
Two copies have been made of it, but the
original has never been engraved ; from one of the
copies, however, an engraving is in process of ex-
ecution, after the picture by Mr. Newenham, of
" Cromwell dictating to Milton his letter to the
Duke of Savoy." The likeness of Cromwell in
this picture is taken from one of the copies.
The original is not allowed to be taken from off
the premises on any consideration, in consequence
of a dishonest attempt having been made, some time
ago, to substitute a copy for it. B&iSTOiiiENSis.
Manners of the Irish (Vol. viii., pp. 5. 111.). —
A slight knowledge of Gaelic enables me to sup-
ply the meaning of some of the words that have
puzzled your Irish correspondents. Molchan
(Gaelic, Mtdachan) means " chuse."
** Deo gracias, is smar in Doieagh.*'
I take to mean " Thanks to God, God is good."
In Gaelic the spelling would be — "is math in
Dia." A Roman Catholic Celt would often hear
his priest say " Deo Gratias."
The meaning of the passage seems to be pretty
clear, and may be rendered thus: — The Irish
farmer, although in the abundant enjoyment of
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[No. 203.
bread, butter, cbeese, flesh, and brotb, is not only
not ashamed to complain of poverty as an excuse
for non-payment of his rent, but has the effrontery
to thank God, as if he were enjoying only those
blessings of Providence to which ne is justly en-
titled. W. C.
Argyleshire.
Chronograms and Anagrams (Vol. viii., p. 42.).
— Perhaps the most extraordinary instance to be
found in reference to chronograms is the follow-
ing:
<* Chronograph ica Gratulatio in Felicissimum ad-
ventum Serenissimi Cardinalis Ferdinandi, Hispani-
arum Infantis, a Collegio Soc. Jesu. Bruxellie publico
Belgarum Gaudio exhibita."
This title is followed by a dedication to S. Michael
And an address to Ferdinand ; after which come
one hundred hexameters, every one of which is a
chronogram^ and each chronogram gives the same
result, viz. 1634. The first three verses are, —
« AngeLe CaeLIVogl MIChaeL LUX UnICa CaetUs.
Pro nUtU sUCCInCta tUo CUI CUnCta Minis-
trant.
SIDera qUIqUe poLo gaUDentIa sIDera VoL-
VUnt.'»
The last two are, —
**Vota Cano: haeC LeVIbus qUamVIs nlJnC In-
CLyte prInCeps.
VersICULls InCLUsa, fLUent in saeCULa Cen-
tUm."
All the numeral letters are printed in capitals,
and the whole is to be found in the Parnassus
Poeticus Societatis Jesu (Francofurti, 1654), at
pp. 445-448. of part i. In the same volume there
18 another example of the chronogram, at p. 261.,
in the "Septem Marias Mysteria" of Antonius
Chanut. It occurs at the close of an inscription :
"StatUaM hanC — eX Voto ponit
FernanDUs TertlUs AUgUstUs."
The date is 1647.
**Henriot, an ingenious anagrammatist, discovered
the following anagram for the occasion of the 15th :
* Napoleon Bonaparte sera-t-il consul a vie>
La [le] peuple bon reconnoissant votera Oui.'
There is only a trifling change of a to c.** — Gent. Mag.y
Aug. 1802, p. 771.
The following is singular :
" Quid est Veritas? = Vir qui adest,**
I add another chronogram " by Godard, upon the
birth of Louis XIV. in 1638, on a day when the
eagle was in conjunction with the lion's heart :"
" EXorlens DeLphIn AqUILa CorDIsqUe Leonis
CongressU GaLLos spe LietltlaqUe refeCIt."
B. H. C.
" Haul over the CoaU " (Vol. viii., p. 125.). —
This appears to mean just the same as ^* roasting**
— to inflict upon any one a castigation per verbum
and in good humour.
To cover over the coals is the same as to lower
over the coals, as a gipsy over a fire. Thus Hodge
says of Gammer Gurton and Tib, her maid :
*<'Tis their daily looke.
They cover so over the coles their eies be bleared with
smooke.**
To carry coals to Newcastle is well understood
to be like giving alms to the wealthy; but
viewed in union with the others would show wbat
a prominent place coals seem to have in the popu-
lar mind. B. H. C.
Poplar.
Sheer Hulk (Vol. viii., p. 126.). — This phrase
is certainly correct. Sheer ^-mere^ a. hulk, and
nothing else. Thus we say sheer nonsense, sheer
starvation, &c. ; and the song says :
<* Here a sheer hulk lies poor Tom Bowling,
The darling of our crew," &c.
The etymology of sheer is plainly from shear.
B. £L C«
Poplar.
77ie Magnet (Vol. vi. passim}, — TMs was used
by Claudian apparently as symbolical of Venus or
love:
** Mavors, sanguinea qui cuspide verberat urbe^
£t Venus, humanas quae laxat in oda curas,
Aurati delubra tenent communia templi.
Effigies non una Deis. Sed ferrea Martis
Forma nitet, Venerem maynetica gemma JlyMtroL**
Claud. De Magnete,
B. £U C.
Poplar.
Fierce (Vol. viii., p. 125.). — Oxonibnsis men-
tions a peculiar use of the word "fierce." An in-
habitant of Staflbrdshire would have answered
him : "I feel quite force this morning.**
W. Fbaseb.
Tor-Mohun.
Connexion hetween the Celtic and Latin Lan*
guages (Vol. viii., p. 174.). — Your correspondent
M. will find some curious and interesting articles
on this subject in vol. ii. of The Scottish Journal^
Edinburgh, 1848, p. 129. et infra.
Duncan Mactayish.
Lochbrovin.
Acharis (Vol. viii., p. 198.). — A mistake, pro-
bably, for achatisy a Latinised form of achate a
bargain, purchase, or act of purchasing. The
passage in Dugdale seems to mean that " Ralph
Wicklifij Esc^., holds two-thirds of the tithes of
certain domains sometime purchased by himi for-
Sept. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
281
merly at a rental of 5«., now at nothing, because,
as he says, thej are included in his park.'*
J. Eastwood.
Henry, Earl of Wotton (Vol. viii., p. 173.). —
Philip, first Earl of Chesterfield, had a son Henry,
Lord Stanhope, K.B., who married Catherine, the
eldest daughter and co-heir of Thomas, Lord
Wotton, and had issue one son Philip, and two
daughters, Mary and Catherine. Lord Stanhope
died s. p. "Nov. 29, 1634. His widow was governess
to the Princess of Orange, daughter of Charles I.,
and attending her into Holland, sent over money,
arms, and ammunition to that king when he was
distressed by his rebellious subjects. For such
services, and by reason of her long attendance on
the princess, she was, on the restoration of
Charles IT. (in regard that Lord Stanhope, her
husband, did not live to enjoy his father's ho-
nours), by letters patent bearing date May 29,
12 Charles XL, advanced to the dignity of Countess
of Chesterfield for life, as also that her daughters
should enjoy precedency as earl's daughters.
She took to her second husband John Poliander
Kirkhoven, Lord of Kirkhoven and Henfleet, by
whom she had a son, Charles Henry Kirkhoven,
the subject of the Query.
This gentleman, chiefly on account of his mo-
ther's descent, was created a baron of this realm
by the title of Lord Wotton of Wotton in Kent,
by letters patent bearing date at St. Johnstone's
(Perth) in Scotland, August 31, 1650, and in
September, 1660, was naturalised by authority of
parliament, together with his sisters. He was
likewise in 1677 created Earl o^ Bellomont in Ire-
land, and, dying without issue, left his estates to
his nephew Charles Stanhope, the younger son of
his half-brother the Earl of Chesterfield, who took
the surname of Wotton.
This information is principally from Collins,
who quotes "Ec. Stem, per Vincent." I have
consulted also Bank's Dormant Baronage, Burke's
Works, and Sharpens Peerage. Broctuna.
Bury, Lancashire.
Anna Lightfoot (Vol. vii., p. 595.). — An ac-
count of " the left-handed wife of George III."
appeared in Sir Richard Phillips' Monthly Ma-
gazine for 1821 or 1822, under the title of (I
think) " Hannah Lightfoot, the fair Quaker."
Alexander Andrews.
Lawyers Bags (Vol. viii., p. 59.). — Previous
correspondents appear to have established the
fact that green was the orthodox colour of a
lawyer's bag up to a recent date. May not the
change of colour have been suggested by the sar-
casms and jeers about " green bags," which were
very current during the proceedings on the Bill
of Pains and Penalties, commonly known as the
Trial of Queen Caroline, some thirty years ago ?
The reports of the evidence collected by the com-
mission on the Continent, was laid on the table in
a sealed green hag, and the very name became for
a time the signal for such an outcry, that the
lawyers may have deemed it prudent to strike
their colours, and have recourse to some other less
obnoxious to remark. Balliolensis.
" When Orpheus loentdown^^ (Vol. viii., p. 196.),
— In reply to the Query of G. M. B. respecting
" When Orpheus went down," I beg to say that
the author was the Rev. Dr. Lisle (most probably
the Bishop of St. Asaph). The song may be found
among Ritson's English Songs. When it was
first published I have not been able to ascertain,
but it must have been in the early part of the
last century, as the air composed for it by Dr.
Boyce, most likely for Vauxhall, was afterwards
used in the pasticcio opera of Love in a Village^
which was brought out in 1763. C. Oldenshaw.
Leicester.
Muffs worn hy Gentlemen (Vol. vi. passim;
Vol. vii., p. 320.). — In Lamber's Travels in Canada
and the United States (1815), vol. i. p. 307., is the
following passage ;
" I should not be surprised if those delicate young
soldiers were to introduce muffs : they were in general
use among the men under the French government, and
are still worn by two or three old gentlemen.'*
Uneda.
Philadelphia.
Wardhouse, and FishermnrCs Custom, there
(Vol. viii., p. 78.). — Wardhouse or Wardhuuse,
is a port in Finland, and the custom was for the
English to purchase herrings there, as they were
not permitted to fish on that coast. In Trade^s^
Increase, a commercial tract, written in the earlier
part of the seventeenth century, the author, when
speaking of restraints on fishing on the coasts of
other nations, says :
'* Certain merchants of Hull had their ships taken
away and themselves imprisoned, for fishing about the
Wardhouse at the North Cape."
W. PlNKEBTONir
Ham.
"/» necessariis unitas,^* SfC. (Vol. viii., p. 197.). —
The sentence, "In necessariis unitas, in dubiis
libertas, in omnibus caritas," may be seen sculp-
tured in stone over the head of a doorway leading
into the garden of a house which was formerly the
residence of Archdeacon Coxe, and subsequently
of Canon Lisle Bowles, in the Close at Salisbury.
It is quoted from Melancthon.. The inscription
was placed there by the poet, and is no less the
record of a noble, true, and generous sentiment^
than of the discriminating taste and feeling of hiift
by whom it was thus appreciated and honoured^
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 203.
Would that it might become the motto of aB our
csUiedral precincts I W. S.
Northiaxn.
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TojL. VIII. — No. 204.
EXTINCT YOLCANOS AND MOUNTAINS OF GOLD IK
SCOTLAND.
It IS by some supposed that the Hill of Noth,
in the parish of Khynie, Aberdeenshire, had at
one time been a volcano in full operation : others,
again, maintain that the scoria found on and in
the neighbourhood are portions of a vitrified fort,
which had at one time stood on its summit. I am
not aware that the matter has been investigated
since our advancement in the science of geology
has enabled us to have a more intimate know-
ledge of these things than formerly. The last
statistical account of Scotland has suffered severely
in its Aberdeenshire volume, in consequence of
the temporary deposition of the " seven Strath-
bogie clergymen." The accounts of their several
parishes were written by parties only newly come
to reside in them, and who appear to have taken
little interest in it ; and Rhynie is one of these.
Those who argue for its having been a volcano,
say that it is very possible that there may at one
time have been an electric or magnetic chain con-
necting it with subterranean fire in some other
quarter of the world ; and that by some convul-
sion of nature, the spinal cord of its existence had
been broken, and life became extinct. This hypo-
thesis has been acted on, in accounting for the
earthquakes which occur at Comrie in Perthshire.
The great storm which devastated the princely
estates of Earl Ooodwin in Kent (circa anno
1098), and now so well known to manners as the
Goodwin Sands, is also said to have laid waste the
parish of Forvie, in Aberdeenshire. On the oc-
casion of the great earthquake at Lisbon in 1755,
a flock of sheep were drowned in their cot in the
neighbourhood of Lossiemouth, near Elgin, by
the overflowing of the tide, although far removed
from ordinary high-water-mark. Assuming this
mountain to nave been a volcano, are there any
others in Great Britain ? While on the subject
of mountains in that quarter, there is another
which also demands attention for quite a different
reason, the Hill of Dun-o-Deer, in the parish of
Insch : a conical hill of no great elevation, on the
top of which stand the remains pf ?^ vitrified fort
286
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 204.
or castle, said to have been built by King Gregory
about the year 880, and was used by that monarch
as a hunting- seat ; and where, combining business
with pleasure, he is said to have meted out even-
handed justice to his subjects in the Garioch. It
has long been the popular belief that this hill con-
tains gold ; and that the teeth of sheep fed on it
assume a yellow tinge, and also that their fat is of
the same colour. Notwithstanding this, no at-
tempt at scientific investigation has ever been
made. The operations on the line of the Great
North of Scotland Railway, now in progress in
the immediate neighbourhood, may possibly bring
something to light. This line passes fur many
lailes through a country particularly rich in recol-
lections of the " olden time" — cairns, camps, old
ohapels, druidical circles, sculptured stones, &c. ;
and where ancient coins, battle-axes of all the
three periods, urns and elf-arrow heads, Roman
armour, &c., have been disinterred by the ordi-
nary labours of the field. Within a short dis-
tance of its route lies the Hill of Barra, where the
famous battle was fought, anno 1308, between the
"Bruce" and the "Comyn;" the Bass at In-
verary, the Hill of Benachie, with the remains of
a fortification on its summit, said to have been
erected by the Picts ; the field of Harlaw, famed
in song, where the battle was fought in 1411, in
which Donald of the Isles was defeated. There
are many traditional ballads and stories relating
to Benachie and Noth. There is a ballad called
" John O'Benachie ;" and another, "John O'Rhy-
nie, or Jock O'Noth ; " and they do not appear in
any collection of ancient ballads I have seen. It
is said that long " before King Robert rang," two
giants inhabited these mountains, and are supposed
to be the respective heroes of the two ballads.
These two sons of Anak appear to have lived
on pretty friendly terms, and to have enjoyed a
social crack together, each at his own residence,
although distant some ten or twelve miles. These
worthies had another amusement, that of throwing
stones at each other ; not small pebbles you may
believe, but large boulders. On one occasion,
however, there appears to have been a coolness
between them; for one morning, as he of Noth
was returning from a foraging excursion in the
district of Buchan, his friend of Benachie, not
relishing what he considered an intrusion on his
legitimate beat, took up a large stone and threw
at him as he was passing. Noth, on hearing it
rebounding, coolly turned round; and putting him-
self in a posture of defence, received the ponde-
rous mass on the sole of his foot : and I believe
that the stone, with a deeply indented foot-mark
on it, is, like the bricks in Jack Cadets chimney,
" alive at this day to testify." Legendary lore
and fabulous ballads aside, it would indeed be
strange if something interesting to the antiquary
does not turn up in such a mine as this. It is
carious, however, that in all the operations ante-
cedent to covering Great Britain with, as it were,
a network of iron, so very few discoveries should
have been made of any importance, either to the
antiquary or geologist. Abbsdonensis.
THOMAS BLOUNT, AUTHOR OF " FBAGMENTA ANTI-
QUITATI8," ETC.
Being on a visit to some friends on the confines
of the county of Salop, bordering on Hereford-
shire, I took the opportunity long cherished of
visiting the spot ^^ere lie the remains of the
author of Boscohel; Fragmenta Antiquitatis, or
Ancient Tenures of Land, and Jocular Customs of
Manors^ ^c, and copied the following inscription
from his monument, in the chancel of the ancient
church of Orleton in the latter county. I believe
it has never been published ; and although neither
Note nor Query is connected with it, it may serve
to fill up a corner in your valuable miscellany,
and thus preserve from the oblivion of a retired
country church, a memorial of one well known tb
the antiquarian world of literature. It is on a
brass plate inserted in a stone monument against
the wail of the chancel :
" D. O. M.
Hie seminatur Corpus Animate
Spiritale resurrecturum
Thomjb Blount.
De Orleton in agro Herefordiensi Armigerl,
Ex interiori Teraplo Londini JCti.
Viri priscis Moribus avitae Fidei,
Vitae integerrimae, Pietatis solidae,
Fidelitatem, Dilectionem, Amorera, Charitatem,
In Principem, Suos, Amicos, Omnes,
lUibatc coluit.
Uxorem duxit
Annam
Filiam Eadmundi Church Armigerl
£ Maldonia East Saxonum.
Unica Corporis prole.
(Elizabetha)
Mentis multiplici
(Libris utilissimis)
Fanaillam propagavit, perennavit Famam.
Requiem, Lector, si fas ducis, huic apprecare
Et meiior abi.
Obiit Decembris 26, 1679. ^tatis 6U
Pientissima Coniunx
moerens
Posuit."
The village of Orleton is celebrated for a very
large annual fiiir, which occurs on April 23 ; and
a saying is connected therewith : " That the cuckoo
always comes on Orleton fair-day;" which has
doubtless arisen from the circumstance, that this
" messenger of spring" generally arrives in ,this
country by that day. J. B. Whitbohne.
Sept. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
287
tbeir horaes after a race b^ allonino; tbem to roll
on the ground ; for Fbeidtppidea, £e wild joung
man of Uie p1&7i ^^o spent much of his own time
and of hia btber's monej on the " turf," and who
is shovrn in the opening scene faat asleep in bed,
dreaming of his favourite amusement, saja ver;
quietlj,
-'Anjt rhy Irrot f^iiMaas otmtt" [39]—
an order which he had probably often given to his
groom, at the Hippodrome, the Newmarket or
Ascot of Athens,
I have often Been racing, I have often seen
hunters brought home after a hard dsy's work,
and I have read of forced marches, &c. made by
cavalry and artillery ; but never yet have 1 heard
of an English Houyhnhnm, either at borne or
abroad, who was invited to refresh himself after
his labours, civil or military, classically, with a
roli.
Dobbin, that four-footed Ofellua,
" Ruslicus, ahnarmis sapiens, crassaque MiDervi,"
whenever be has the iuck to spend his summer
Sunday's oHum cam dignitate in a paddock, in-
variably indulges in a baker's dozen, nithout
w^ting for an invitation to do so, and without
saying " with your leave " or " by your leave."
They ordered this matter better in Africa some
fifty years ago, and I hope they still continue so to
By one of the stipulations of the hollow Peace
of Amiens, the colony of the Cape of Good Hope
was restored by Great Britain to the Batavian
Republic, which immediately appointed Mr, J. A.
de Mist its Commissary- General, and despatched
him to receive the ceded territory from the handa
of the English, to insta! the new Governor, Gene-
ral J. W. Janssens, into his high office, and to re-
organise the constitution of the colony.
Having fulSlled these duties, Mr. De Mist de-
termined to make a tour of inspection, and be
accordingly travelled on horseback nearly 4500
English miles through the interior. Among his
suite was a Dr. Lichtenstein, the physician and
iavaat of the party, who afterwards published an
account of the expedition.
The extract that I am about to make from hia
work may at first sight appear unnecessarily long ;
but I wish the "courteous reader" to bear in mind
phanes, but for tbatof bringing forward additional
evidence, to prove that a dry roll may occasionally
be of as much service in recruiting the strength
and spiritH of that noble animal, the horse, when
jaded by violent exertion or long-protracted toil,
as our English nottrums, a warm jotA w a bottle
of water. Dr. Lichtenatein sayB, —
" Out road led us soon agiin over the Vogel river,
and here we were obliged to supply ourselves wiSi
water far the whole day, since not a drop was to be
met with again till the Melk river, a dislance of ten
hours [^ SO English miles]. When we had filled our
vessels, and our cattle bad drunk plentifully, we pro-
ceeded on our way.
" It is difficult for an European to farm an idea of
(he hardships that are lo be encountered in a journey
over such a dry plain at the hottest season of the year.
All vegetation seems utterly destroyed ; not a blade of
grass, not a green leaf, is anywbere to be seen; and
the soil, a stiff loam, reQects back the heat of tbe suD
with redoubled force : a man may congratulate hirnadf
that, being on horseback, be is raised some feet above
it. Nor is any rest from these fatigues to be thought
e Afiicfln hor
veil >.
hardships, alihough they faav
strength Chan the European, that it is incredible what
a length of viaj they will go, in the most intense heat,
without either food or drink. It is, however, cua-
the saddles are taken off, and the animaU are suCTered
to roll upon the ground and stretch out their limbs fiir
a short time. This tliej do with evident delight, and
after they have well rolled, stretched, and shaken tbem.
selves, they rise up and go on as much refreshed as if
they had bad food and drink given them. On arriving
ut a farm, the invitation of the host, who comes imme-
diately to the door, is, • Get off. Sir, nnd let him roll."
e, and leads bim^
backwards and fon
Is for
I, to r
breath, and he is then unsaddled ai
" These rollings were then the only refreshment we
could offer our horses, and both they end their riijers
were, when towards evening they arrived at the Itlelk
river, eiceedingly exhausted." — TVopeft I'a SmOberli
Africa in the Ytart 1803 — 1806. By Henry Liehlen-
stcin. Doctor in Medicine and Hiiioaopby, Ac. ftc
Translated from tbe original German by Anne Flump-
tre : London, Henry Colburn, ISIS; vol. i. chap. xnv.
C. FOBBSS.
Temple.
On Saturday the 30th of July, 1853, the dead
body of a young woman was discovered in a field
at Littleport, in tbe Isle of Ely. Tbe body hu
not yet been identified, and there can be little
doubt that the young woman was murdered. At
the adjourned inquest, held on the 29th of Angast,
before Mr. William Marshall, one of the coronera
for theiale, the following eitraordinary evidence
'James Jessop, an elderly, rtspeelable-looking la-
bourer, with a ibce of the most perfect stolidity, and
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 204.
vrho p<»sessed a most curiously •shaped skull, broad and
flat at the top, and projecting greatly on each side over
the ears, deposed : * I live about a furlong and a half
from where the body was found. I have seen the
body of the deceased. I had never seen her before her
death. On the night of Friday, the 29th of July, 1
dreamt three successive times that I heard the cry of
murder issuing from near the bottom of a close called
Little Ditchment Close (the place where the body was
found). The first time I dreamt I heard the cry it
woke me. I fell asleep again, and dreamt the same
again. I then woke again, and told my wife. I could
not rest ; but I dreamt it again after that. I got up
between four and five o'clock, but I did not go down
to the close, the wheat and barley in which have since
been cut. I dreamt once, about twenty years ago,
that I saw a woman hanging in a barn, and on passing
the next morning the barn which appeared to me in
my dream I entered, and did find a woman there hang-
ing, and cut her down just in time to save her life. I
never told my wife I heard any cries of murder, but I
have mentioned it to several persons since. I saw the
body on the Saturday it was found. I did not mention
my dream to any one till a day or two after that. I
saw the field distinctly in my dream and the trees
thereon, but I saw no person in it. On the night of
the murder the wind lay from that spot to my house.'
** Rhoda Jessop, wife of the last witness, stated that
her husband related his dreams to her on the evening
of the day the body was found."
In Mr. John Hill Burton's Narratives from
Criminal Trials in Scotland^ is a chapter entitled
" Spectral and Dream Testimony," to wliich the
above evidence will be a curious addition.
C. H. COOPEB.
Cambridge.
SHAKSPEARE CORRESPONDENCE.
^^PriarrCs six-gaied city^^ Sfc. — In the prologue
to Troilus and Cressida occurs —
<* . . . . Priam's six-gated city,
Dardan and Tymbria, Ilias, Chetas, Trojan,
And Antenorides, with massy staples.
And corresponsive and fulfilling bolts."
What struck me here was the omission of the
onljr gate of Troy really known to fame, the Sccean^
which looked on the tomb of the founder Laome-
don j before which stood Hector, " full and fixed,"
awaiting the fatal onslaught of Achilles; where
Achilles, in turn, received his death-wound from
the shaft of Paris ; and through which, finally, the
wooden horse was triumphantly conveyed into the
doomed city.
The six names are shown to be taken by Shak-
speare in part from Caxton, and in part from
Lydgate : and in Knigbt*s edition we are told that
they are " jjure inventions of the middle age of
romance- writers."
Let us examine this assertion. The names are
to be found pretty nearly as above, but with one
important difference, in Dares' History of the
Trojan War, Mv authority is Rusbus, the Del-
phine editor of Virgil (see his note at JEn, ii.
612.). Now Dares (perhaps the oldest of the pro-
fane writers whom we know) was a Phrygian, who
took part in the Trojan war, and wrote its history
in Greek : and the Greek original was still extant
in the time of -SJlian, from a.d. 80 to 140. Of
this, now lost, a Latin translation still survives, by
some attributed to Cornelius Nepos, and by some
regarded as spurious ; but, either way, its date must
be long antecedent to ^' the middle age of romance-
writers." It was doubtless from this Latin history
that Caxton or Lydgate, or both, derived directly
or indirectly the names they adopted ; and yet it
is to be noted that they give respectively the
names of Chetas and Cetheas to one of their gates,
and omit the well-known Sccean, which Dares
expressly mentions ; for I presume that no prin-
ciple of philology will sanction the identificatioa
of Sccean with either of the terms used by these
two writers.
I have trespassed somewhat on your space, but
let me hope the subject may be farther elucidated.
The points I wish to put forward are, Shakspeare's
omission of the Scaian gate, and the proposition
by Knight (for a proposition it is, though in a
participular form), that these six names are " pure
inventions of the middle age of romance- writers."
W. T. M.
Hong Kong.
On the Word ^^ delighted^'' in ^^ Measure for
Measure,** Sfc. (Vol. viii., p. 241.). — Inasmuch as
the controversy respecting this word seems to be
over, and no one of the critics and commentators
on Shakspeare*s text appears to have the slightest
clue to the real meaning and derivation, I will
enlighten them. But, first, I must say, I am sur-
prised that Dr. Kennedy should (though he has
certainly hit on the right meaning) be unable to
give a better account of the word than that in
Vol. ii., pp. 139. 250. And as to the passage quoted
(Vol. ii., p. 200.) by Mr. Singer from Sidney's
Arcadia, I beg to inform him that the word delight^
which occurs therein, is a misprint for daylight !
We find, in the Latin, the substantive deliciee^
delight, pleasure, enjoyment; and the adjective
(derived from the same root, and guiding us to the
original meaning of the substantive) delicatus, which,
amongst other meanings, has that of tender, soft,
gentle, delicate, dainty.
As the early English scholars were not very
particular about the form of the words they intro-
duced from the Latin, or indeed of those which
were purely English, for they changed them at
their pleasure, — and that this is the case, I pre-
sume no one at all versed in the literature of the
time of Henry VIII. will dispute, — it requires no
great exertion of fancy to believe, that, finding
Sept. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
the Eubatantive delicite Englished dsligM, tliej
rendered Ihe adjective delicatus delighted. The
fact that they did uae the words delight and deli-
cote as Bjnonymoiis, is proved bj a pnsa^e in " a
boke named the Gouernour deubed bj Sjr Thomas
Eljot, K[iyght, Londini, 1557 :" in which, at folio
203., p. 1., we find Titua, the son of Vespasian,
wlio was ordinarily termed " the delight of man-
kind," called " the delicate of the world,"
We are therefore to conclude that the words
delicate and delighted were used indifferently by
writers of the age of Shakspeare, as well as by
those previous to him, to express the same thing ;
and that by the phrase "delighted spirit" in
Measure for Meatvre, "delighted beauty" in
Othello, "delighted gifts" in Cymheline, we are
to understand, exquisitely tender, delicate, or
precious.
I cannot agree with Db. Kennedi' that delici/f,
delicatus come from dcligere rather than delicere;
since, if my memory does not deceive me, the
former is as often, if not olUner, used by good
writers to express (o drive away, to upset, to re-
move from, or detach — as to select or choose —
which is the only me.inlng the word has akin to
delicue ; whereas delicere is actually used by one
of the earlier Latin poets for to delight.
The word dainti/, I may inform De. Kknnedt,
is from the obsolete French dein or dain, delicate ;
which probably came from the stilt, older Teut.
deiiiin, minuta (vid. Schilter). H. C. K.
Rector)-, Hereford.
^mar floUi.
Epitaph from Stalbridge. — The following
epitaph from the churchyard of Stalbridge, Dor-
setshcre, may perhaps be thought worthy of pre-
servation, if it be not u hackneyed one :
" So fond, so young, so gentle, so sincere,
" ■ ved, so early lost, mny c'
Yet
■ol, if th
I Me,
Ded by h
end for wliicli 'twas givi
C:juld he too soon escape this norld of sin
Or could eternal life too soon begin ?
Then cease his death too fondly to deplore,
Wliat could the longest lire have added mc
noticed the narrow escape which JTowell had from
arrest by some of Bishop Bonner's emissaries in
Queen Mary's reign, having had a bint to fly
whilst fishing in the Thames, " whilst Nowell was
catching of fishes, Boanor was catching of Nowell,"
proceeds to say, —
" Without offence It may be remembered that, leav.
ing a bottle of ale, when fisliing, in tlie grass, he found
it some days after no bottle, but a gun, such tbe sound
at the opening thereof: and this is believed (casualty
is the mother of more inventions than industry*) the
original of botlled ale in England,"— Nutull's edit.,
BAUJOLEnSW,
A CoUection of Sentences out of some of Ike
Writings of the Lord Bacon (i. 422. edit Mon-
tagu), with the ensuing exceptions, ia taken out
of the Essays, and in regular order ;
No. 1. p. 33. of the same volume.
No. 2. p. 21.
No. 3. p. 5.
No. 51. "My reference is illegible: the words
are, — " Men seem neither well to understand their
riches nor their strength; of the former they be-
lieve greater things l£an they should ; and of the
lat(«r, much less. And from hence, certain fatal
pillars have bounded titc progi-ess of learning."
No. 68. pp. 173. 272. 321.
No. 69. p. 18S.
No. 70. p. 176.
No. 71. Vol. vi., p. 172. The Charge of Owen,
Law and Usage. — In The TintM of September 1,
the Turkish correspondent writes as follows :
" MahiDOud Pasha declared in (he Divan of the 17th
that -he would divorce his wife, but would not advisa
a dishonourable peace with Russia.' Tliis is an ex-
pression of tbe strongest liind in use amongst the
Turks."
It is worth a Note that, in spile of polygamy
and divorce is spoken of as the greatest of ui
likelihoods.
M.
Curious Extracts. — Dean Noaell — Bottled
Beer, — I was somewhat hasty in assuming; (see
Vol. vii., p. 135.) that bottled beer was an unknown
department in early times, as the following extract
will show. It is from Fuller's Worthies of Eng-
land, under " Lancashire," the subject of the no-
tice being no less a person than the grave divine
Alexander Nowell, dean of St. Paul's, author of
the Catechism, whose fondness for angling is uiso
commemorated by Izaak Walton, Fuller, having
C. W. B. Manichaan Games. — Take any game played
by two persons, such as draughts, and let the play
be as follows : each plays his best for himself, and
follows it by playing the worst he can for the
other. Thus, when it is the turn of the white to
ind then the black as badly (for the other player)
IS lie can. Tbe black then does the best he can
vith the black, and follows it by the worst be can
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 204.
do for Ihe white. Of eourae, by neptratii^ the
good and ctU principles, foar persons might plav.
Sohtt't Hoeeden. — Bj waj of expressing mj
sense of obligation to Mr. Bnhn and bis editors
for the Anliquarian Library, perhaps yoii will
suffer me to point out what appears to be an inac-
curacy in the translation of Roger de Hovcden's
AnaaL? At p. 123. of vol. it., the word SuiteUe
(as it appears to etaod in the original text} is
translated into Stoale : but surely no other place
il here meant than the church of St. Mary 9 at
So^aeW (or SuthuieU, Sudwelt. Sjaeell, or Suell,
as variously spelt, but never Swale), in Notting-
' I wonld also notice a trifling error (perhaps
only a misprint) at p. 1^5. ; where we are informed
in a note, that the Galilee of Durham Cathedral is
at the edit end, whereas its real position is at the
meat. J. Sahsoh.
Olford.
Millott at Eyford Bo>ue, Giotto: — In the
British Museum (says Wilson in his description
sf Christ's College, Cambridge) is the original
(ffoclaaiatioii for Milton's appearance after the
Bestoratton. Where was he secreted P I find this
note in my book : — At Eyford House, Gloucester-
shire, within two miles of Stow-on -the- Wold, on
the rond to Cheltenham, a, spring of beautiful
water is called "Milton's Weil," running into a
tribntary of the Thames. The old house, &&,
at the time would be out of the way of common
information. F. J.
AutrfUt.
BABL OF leicbstbb's pobtsait, 1585.
There is at Fenahu^s^ among many other in-
teresting memorials of the Dudleys, an original
portrait of Elizabeth's Earl of Leicester, with the
followin" panted upon it: "Robert, E. of Lei-
oealer, Sladtholder of Holland, a.d. 1585." After
this comes the ragged staS*, but without its usual
accompaniment, the bear. Under the staff follow
these enigmatical lines, which I request any of
your correspondents to translate and explain. I
tcaid you a translation in rhyme; I should thank
them tbe more if they would do the same : as to
ezpluMtioD, the longer the better.
" Principls bic Baculus, patcis columcnque, decusque.
Hoc una, ingratos quod beet, ipse miser."
This nggei staffby Leiceatec't potent liand,
Brougbt succour, safety, to Ibis (hreaten'd land:
* The seal of the vicars of Southvel), ann. ISes,
had in its circumference lbs words "Commune sigil-
Inm Vic«iorum SuuelJ."— Vid. Thorolon'a NotHng-
hcauAin, NorA MuiUiam, ed. IT96, vol.iii. p. 156.
One thing alona embitters eitry tboa|^t.
He to uogtalefal men these hlouDga btongfaL
Now for a word of commentary: and first as to
" Stadtholder of Holland, a.d. 1583." The good
woman who showed the picture ioformed us that
it was painted by order of the stadtholder, and
presented to Leicester; if so, there would have
been a juaiu provinciarum ftrderatarwn depictui,
or something of that sort ; but no such compli-
ment was to be expected from the Dutch, for tbej
hated him, compluned of his conduct, memo-
rialised the queen against him : see the pamphlets
in the British Museum, 4to. 1587, C. 32. a. 2. But
though it was most unlikely that the Duttih c
inity and presumption, and still more with that
to call himself rA« Sladtholder, and to order his
painter to put that title under his portrait.
The verses may now be referred to in support
of this view of the subject. Leicester therein re-
presents himself ae unhappy, because be had be-
stowed blessings on the ungrateful Dutch.
In conclusion, take the following fall-lengtlt
portrait of Leicester's indignation (Leicetler, a
Belgit viluperatia, loqaitur) :
" This ragged staff my resolulian shows,
To save my Queen and HoUand from their fbei :
SliII deeply seated in mv heart remains
One cau^e. one fruitful caaw, of all my paiBi ;
'Tis base ingralLtude — 'lis Holland's hate.
My presence sav'd that country, ehang'd its &te.
But Die base pedlars gain'd my sov'ieign's ear.
And at my counsels and my eourage sneer ;
Tliey call me tyrant, breaker of my word,
Fond of a warrior's garb without his sword.
Bold 35 a lion when no danger's near.
They say I seek their country for myself,
To fill mj bursting bags with plunder-d ptlf;
They say with goose's, not with eagle's wing,
I wish to soar, and make myself a ting.
Tlie daunted Spaniard fled without a blow,
And bloodless chaplels crown'd my conquering biow.
Dutchmen I with minds more stagnant than your
(But in reproachful words more knaves than fools).
You win not see, nor own the debt you owe
To him who conquers ■ retreating foe.
Sacb base ingratitude aa thia alloys
My triumph's glory, and my bosom's joya."
y.T.
Tunbridge VltWt.
Sept. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEBIEa
Mr. La^ard, in his work upon Nineveh and
Babj'lon, in reference to the articles of bronze
JTom Assyria now in the British Museum, states,
that the lin used in the composition was probably
obtained from FhcEoicia ; and, consequently, that
that used in the Assyrian bronze may actually have
been exported nearly three thousand years ago from
the British Isles.
The Assyrians appear to have made an exten-
sive use of this metal ; and the degree of i>erfec-
tion which the making of bronze had then reached,
clearly shows tliat they must have been long ex-
perienced in the use of it. They appear to have
received what they used from the Phoenicians.
When and hy whom was tin first discovered in our
island ? Wore the Celtic tribes acquainted with
it previoitsly to the arrival of the Fhcenicians upon
our shores ?
It is said that the Phmnicians were indebted to
the Tyrian Hercules for their trade in tin ; and
Qiat this island owed to them its name of Barat-
anae, or Britain, the land of tin. Was the Tyrian
Hercules, or, as he was afiernards known and
worshipped, as the Melkart of Tyre, and the Mo-
loch of the Bible, was he the merchant-leader of
the first band of Phrenicians who visited this
island? TVAen did Ab live? G. W.
SUnsted, Montfichet.
give me any information likely to solve the diffi-
culty?
I may as well notice here that amongst the
many ways in which the name of Ihis island has
been pronounced and spelt, that of Mavn seems to
have prevailed at the period of the Norwegian
occupation. On a Hunic monument at Kirk
Michael, we have it very distinctly so spelt.
With regard to the name Mona, applied both to
Man and An^lesea, I have little doubt we maj
find its root in the Sanscrit roan, to know, wor-
ship, &c., whence we have Manu, ' the sou of
Brahma, Menu, Menes, Minos, Moonshee, and
Monk. The name Mona would seem to have
been applied to both islands, as being speciallj
the habitation of the Druids, whose name pro-
bably came either from the Celtic Troai-wyt,
wisemen, or the Saxon dm, a soothsayer, very
close in signification to the Sanscrit mooni, a holy'
sage, a lenrned person. As connected with tlus
idea I way ground another Query : Might not
these two Monas, the abode of piety and wisdom,
be the true /uuofntr i^aot, the Fortuaaiit Insula of
the ancients ? J. G. Cdmmins.
Castletoivn.
Amongst the many strange dei'ivatlons given of
the name of Mona or Man (the island), I find one
in an old unpublished MS. by an unknown au-
thor, of the date about 1658, noticed by Felthain
(Tour through the Isle of Man, p. 8.), on which I
venture to ground a Query. The name of the
island is there said to have been derived from
Maune, the name of the great apostle of the Mann,
before he received that of Patricius from Pope
Celestine.
Now if St. Patrick ever had the name Maune,
he could not have given it to the island, which
was called Mona, Monabio, and Menavia, as for
hack as the days of Ctesar, Tacitus, and Pliny. I
have not access to any life of St Patrick in which
the name Maune occurs ; but in the Penny Cy-
clopadia, under the head " Patrick," I find it said,
" According to Nennius, St. Patrick's original
name was Maur," and I find the same stated in
Boae's Biographical Dictionary. But the article
in the latter is evidently taken from the former,
and I suspect the Maur may in bolli be a mis-
print for Maun,* Can " N. & Q." set me right, or
[•
n MonumtHla Hittorica Britannica the passage
Quia Maun prius vocabatur," In ■ note ftom
t MS. the word a spelt Mauun—Ea.}
Ma. RiCHAsn Binoham, whose new and im-
proved edition of his ancestor's works is now
printitfg at the Oxford University Press, would
feel sincerely obliged to any literary friend who
should become instrumental in discovering the
following paasnge from one of the sermons of
Augustine :
" Non Tnirsri debetis, fralres carissimi, quod inter
Ipsa mysleria de inyslcriis nihil diximua, quod non
itatim ea, qiife (radidimus, interpretali sucnua. Ad-
bJbuimua enim tarn Sanctis rebus atque divinbi haiiorein
Joseph Bingham (b. x. ch. v. s. II.) cites thoM
words as from " Serm. I., inter 40. a Sirmondo
;dit09," which corresponds with Serm. V. accord-
ing to the Benedictine edition, Paris, 1689 — J700,
torn. V. p. 28. ; but no such words occur in that
iermon. The passive is daggered by GrishoviuB,
who first gave the citations at length ; neither has
Me. R. Binquah hitherto been able to meet with
it, though a great many similar desiderata in
Former editions he has discovei'ed and corrected.
An answer through "N. & Q." will oblige;
itill more so if sent direct to his present address,
S7. Gloucester Place, Fortman Square, London.
Ma. BiNauAM would also be glad to be informed
where Athanasius uses the term Stdnomt, generally
Tor any minister of the church, whether deacon,
presbyter, or bishop F Joseph Bingham (b. il.
::h. XX. a. I.) cites the tract Contra Oentei, but
the expression is not there.
292
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 204,
The earlier a reply comes tlie more acceptable
will it be.
51. Gloucester Place, Portman Square.
*^ Terr(e JiUus.''* — When was the last "Terras
filius'* spoken at Oxford ; and what was the origin
of the name ? W. Fbaseb.
Tor-Mohun.
Daughter pronounced Dafterl — In the Vemey
Papers lately printed by the Camden Society is a
letter from a Mistress Wiseman, in which she spells
daughter "daftere." It is evident that she pro-
nounced the 'ough as we do in laughter. Is this
pronunciation known to prevail anywhere at the
present day ? C. W. G.
Administration of the Holy Communion, — Which
side, north or souths is the more correct for the
priest to commence administering the Holy Sacra-
ment of the Lord's Supper ? Give the authority
or reasons in support of your opinion. I cannot
find any allusion in Hook's Church Dictionary, or
in Wheatly's Common Prayer ; and I have seen
some clergymen begin one end, some the other.
Clericus (A.).
Love Charm from a FoaVs Forehead, — I have
searched some time, but in vain, in order to find
out what the lump or love charm, taken out of a
foal's forehead, was called. Virgil mentions it in
JEneidy lib. iv. 515., where Dido is preparing her
funeral pile, &c. :
** Quseritur et nascentis equi de fronte revulsus,
£t matri praereptus, amor,**
Tacitus also makes mention of it continually. I
have no doubt but that through your interesting
and learned columns I shall obtain an answer. It
was not philtrum, H. P.
A Scrape, — What is the origin of the ex-
pression " Getting into a scrape ? " Y. B. N. J.
*' Plus occidit Gula^* Sf*c, — Can any of your
correspondents direct me where the following
passage is to be found ? —
" Plus occidit gula, quam gladius."
T.
Anecdote of Napoleon, — I remember to have
Leard of a young lady, one of the detenus in France
after the Peace of Amiens, having obtained her
liberation through a very affecting copy of verses
of her composition, which, by some means, came
under the notice of ISTapoleon. The Emperor was
80 struck with the strain of this lament, that he
forwarded passports, with an order for the imme-
diate liberation of the fair writer. Can any of
your correspondents verify this anecdote, and sup-
ply a copy of the verses P Balliolsmsis.
Canonisation in the Greeh Church, — Does the
Greek Church ever now canonise, or add the
names of the saints to the Calendar ?
1£ so, by whom is the ceremony performed ?
Aktomt Closb.
Woodhouse Eaves.
Binometrical Verses, — Who made the follow-
ing verse ? —
** Quando nigrescit nox, rem latro patrat atroz.*'
It b either hexameter or pentameter, according to
the scansion ? C. Mansfielb Inglebt.
Birmingham.
Dictionary of English Phrases, — Is there in
English any good dictionary of phrases similar to
the excellent Frasologia Italiana of P. Daniele ?
G.K.
Lines on Woman, — W. V. will be glad to know
if any of the correspondents of " N. & Q." can tell
where the following lines are to be found P —
" Not she with traitrous kiss her master stung,
Not she denied him with unfaithful tongue ;
She^ when apostles fled, could danger brave.
Last at his cross, and earliest at his grave.**
Collections for Poor Slaves, — I have met with
the following memorandum in a parish register,
and have seen notices of similar entries in others :
** 1680. Collected for the redemption of poor slaves
in Turkey, the sum of 2jt. 8cf."
Can you refer me to the king's letter authorising
such collections to be made ? W. S.
North iam.
[Some information upon this point will be found in
« N. & Q.," Vol. i., p. 441. ; Vol. ii., p 12.]
The Earl of Oxford and the Creation of Peers,,
— Where will be found the answer made by the
Earl of Oxford when impeached in the reign of
Queen Anne for creating in one day twelve peers ?
S.NT.
" Like one who wdkes^^ ^c, — Can any of your
readers supply the authorship and connexion of
the following lines ? —
" Like one who wakes from pleasant sleept
Unto the cares of morning.**
C. W. B.
Bells at Berwick-upon-Tweed, — Can any one
favour me with a parallel or similar case, in
respect to bells, to what I recently met with at
Berwick-upon-Tweed P The parish church, which
is the only one in the town, and a mean structure
of Cromwell's time, is without either tower or
Sept. 24. 1833.]
.NOTES AND QUERIES.
293
bell; and the people are Bummoned to divine
service from the belfry of tbe town-hull, which has
n very respectable steeple. Indeed, sa much more
ecclesiastical in appearance is tlie to nn -hall than
the church, that (as I waa told) a regiment of
soldiers, on the first Sunday after their arrival at
Berwick, marched to the former building for divine
service, although the church stood opposite the
barrack gate. My kind informant also told me
that he found n strange clergyman one Sunday
morning trying the town-hall door, and rating the
absent sexton ; having undertaken to preach a
missionary sermon, and become involved in the
same mistake as the soldiers.
But more curious still was the news that there
is a meeting-bouse in Berwick belonging to the
jinli-burghers, who are dissenters from the Church
of Scotland, which has a bell, for the ringing of
which, as a summons to worship, Barrington,
Bishop of Durham, granted a licence, which still
«sists. I wa9 not aware that bishops either had,
or exercised, the power of licensing hells ; but
my informant will, I doubt not, on reading this,
either verify or correct the statement. At the
time when the bell was licensed, the congregation
irere iu communion with the Church of Scotland.
Alfeed Gattt.
The Eeale Family, of ths Hoo, HerU. — I shall
be obliged to any of your readers for information
respecting the Sir Joiustban Keate, Sari., of the
lloo, Hertfordshire, who waa living in the year
1683 ; also for any particulars respecting his
family ? I especially desire to know what were
Lis relations to the religious parties of the time,
as I have in m^ possession the journal of a non-
conformist minister, who waa his domestic chaplain
from 1683 to 16S8. G.B. B.
Cambiidge.
Divining-rod. — Can any of the correspondents
of " N. & Q." supply instances of the use of the
divining-rod for finding water P I know several
circumstances which might incline one, in these
table-turning days, to inquire seriously whether
there be any truth in the popular notion.
G. W. Skteinq.
Medal and Relic of Mtry Queen of Scots— 1
have in my possession a medal, the size of a crown
piece, of base metal, with perhaps some admixture
of silver. On one side of this are the arms of
Scotland with two thistles, and the legend —
and the reverse, a yew-tree witb a motto of three
words, of which the last seems to be vibes, the
date 1966, and ihe legend —
have been made from the yew-tree under which
Mary and Darnley had been accustomed to meet.
I have been told that there is some farther tra-
dition or superstition connected witli these relics :
if there be, I ahall be glad to be informed of it, or
of any other particulars concerning Ihcm.
w. ruASBB,
Tor- Moll un.
Buhlrode's Portrait. — Prefixed to a Copy in
mj possession of Essays upon the following iSi(6-
jecU: 1. Generosity, §-c., by Whitelock Bulstrode,
Esq., 8vo. Lond. 1724, there Is a portrait of the
author, bearing this note in MS. : " This scarce
portrait has sold for 71." It is engraved by Cole,
from a picture by Kneller, in oval with armorial
bearings below, and is subscribed " Anno Salutis
17-23, xtntis73." lam at a loss to suppoae it
ever could have fetched the price assigned to my
impression by its previous owner, and should feel
obliged if any of your correspondents would stale
whether, from any peculiar circumstances, it maj'
have become rare, and so acquired an adventitious
value. It does not appear to have been known to
Granger.
While the two names are before me, I venture
to inquire how (he remarkable interchange oc-
curred between that of Whitelock Bulstrode the
Essayist, and Bulstrode Whitebdi tbe Memorialist,
of the parliamentary period. Was there any-
family connexion ? Baluolbnbis.
The Assembly House, Kentish Toum, — Can
any of your antiquarian correspondents give me a
clue as to the date, or probable date, of the erection
of this well-known roadside public-house (I be^
pardon, tavern), which ia now bein^ pulled down?
I am desirous of obtaining some slight account oT
the old building, having just completed au etching,
from a sketch taken as it appeared In ita diaman-
tled state. Possibly some anecdotes may be
current regarding it. I learn from a rare little
tome, entitled Some Account of Kentish Town,
published at that place in 1821, and written, I
believe, by a Mr. Elliot, that the Assembly House
waa formerly called the Black Bull. The writer
of this Query asked "one of the oldest Inha-
bitants," who was seated on a door-step opposite
the houae, his opinion concerning its age: con-
aldering a little, the old gentleman seriously said
he thought it might he two or three thousand yeaiK
at least! Thia opinion I am afraid to accept as
correct, and I would therefore seek, through the
medium of " N. & Q,," aome information which
may be more depended upon. W. B. B.
CamJen New Town.
Letters respecting Hougomont. — Could any
reader of " N. & Q." kindly furnish the under-
signed with certain Letters, whicb Lave recently
S94
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na204.
■ppeared in The Times, on "The Defence of Hou-
gomonl?" Such letters, eitraoted, would be of
moch serrice to him, bs thej are wanted for b.
specific purpose. The letters from Saturday,
Sept. 10, ineltuipe, are already obtwned : but the
letters on the eubject previous to that date are
wanting, and would greatly favour, if it were pos-
sible to have then, Aban.
Swillinglon.
Peter Lombard. — Ur. Hnllam, in his Literatare
v/Earope (vol. i. p. 128.), says, on the authority
of Ueiners (vol. iii. p. 11.) :
"Pder Lombard, in
■jttematic basis of sctaolf
Greek words, and eiplai
' SeRtenliartim, the
ilogj,
ighdy.
Baving, however, examined this work for the
Eiorpose of ascertaining Peter Lombard's know-
edge of Greek, I must, out of regard to strict
truth, deny the statement of Meiners ; for only
one Greek word in Greek letters is to be found in
the Liber Sententiamm, and that is fuTidvia : and
BO far from Peter explaining this word rightly, he
Bays, " Pcenitentia dicitur a puniendo " (lib. iv.
dist. xir.) J an etymoli^ical notion which caused
Luther to think wrongly of the nature of repent-
ance, til! he leamt the meaning of the Greek
word, which he received with joy as the solution
of one of bis greatest difficulties in Romanism. I
do not consider the introduction of such Latinized
church words as ecclesia, epincopiu, presbyter, or
oven hoiaoBusiui, as evincing any knowledge of
Greek on the part of Peter Lombard, wherein he
appears to have been lamentably deficient, as the
great teacher and authority for centuries in
Christian dogmatics. Your correspondents will
greatlj oblige me by showing anything to the con-
traiy of my charge against Pet«r Lombard of
being ignorant of Greek. T. J. Bucktor.
Birmingham.
Life of Samgny. — Is there In French or En-
glish any life or memoir of Savigny ? C. H.
Picture hy Hogarth. — Some years since agentle-
man purchased at Buth the Srst sketch of a picture
aud to be by Hogarth, of " Fortune distributing
her favours." Shortly afterwards a gentleman
called on the purchaser of it, and mentioned to
him that he knew the finished painting, and that
it was in the panelling of some house with which
he was acquainted.
I am desirous of finding out for the family of
the purchaser, who died recently, Isr, whether
there is any history that can be attached to this
picture; and 2ndly, to discover, if possible, in
whose possession, nnd where, the finished painting
is preserved. J. K. R. W.
0[{nor (BtmrEri inffb %tittatxt.
Gloiiarial Qaeriei. — In a Subsidy Roll of 2*
Edw;ird I., in an enumeration of property in the
parish of Skirbeck, near Boston, Lincolnshire,
upon which a nin(ft was granted to the king, I find
the following articles and their respective value.
What where they P ~
"3alece, 18i.
I baotU cum armcnt. 15»."
In the taxation of Leake I find —
"9 hoeaslf. 6s."
In that of Leverton —
In BalteriBick —
I pull. i?d."
In Wrangle -
• I stagg. 2»."
PlSflBT TSDUPtOII.
Stoke Newingtan.
[It is very desirable that In all cases Querints deur-
ousofeiplanationsof words, phrases, or passages, ^ould
give the context
3 Akct, were it not for the price, one would
render "herrings;" but the price, IBi,, forbids such
interpretation. Perhaps aleci is a misreading for vaece,
cows ; whirh might ivcll occur in a carelessly written
roll temp. Edirard L
I bacclt cum amekt. is 1 baeeVua cum armameKtit, one
ass (or pack-horse) with its furniture.
BAocaiif. is 9 jylpi. " Hogaster, porcelluB." — Da
Cange.
1 paS. (i. e. puUului), I colt.
1 itagy., a yearling oi.]
Military KnigMs of Windsor. — I shall feel
obliged lo any of your correspondents who will
furnish some nccount, or refer me to any work in
which notices may be found of this foundation,
its statutes, mode of appointment, endowmenlB,
&c. ? Up to the reign of William IV. tiey were
known, I believe, as Poor Knights of Windsor.
Y. B. S. J.
[Consult Ashmole's Hiilory of Ike Order of the
Gorier, pp. 99— 101., edit. 1715, Among the Birch
and Stoane MSa in Ihe British Museum are the fol-
loiving articles : No. 4S45. Statutes for the Poor
Knights of Windsor, 1 EVit. Orders and roles for the
estBbKsbment and good government of the said thirteen
poor knights. The Queen's Majestie's ordinances for
Ihe continual charges. No. 4847. Articles of cora-
plaiut exhibited by the Poor Knights (to the KntghM
of the Garter) against the Dean and Canons. The
Dean and Canons' answer to the Poor Knights' second
replication. The complaint of the Poor Knights to
King Richard II. A petition ofthe Poor Knights to
Ihe king and parliament for a repeal of the aot of in.
Mirporation, A. 23 Edw. IV. The petition of Ihe
Poor Knights of Windsor to George IT., Jan. SS,
I7S5. This petition was drawn up by Mr. Fortescue,
Sept. 24. 1853.]
KOTES AKD QUERIES.
■fterwirdi HaMer of the Rolls. The Foot Knights'
njoindn to their former petition. The tnemoii&l of
the Poor Knights to John Willes, Esq., Attoroey-
General. Another petition to J. Willes, Esq. Copy
of an indenture between Queen Elizabeth and thv
Dean and Chapter of Landi, to the value of GOO/, a
;ear and upwards, for the niaintennncc of the Pool
Knights, 1 Elii. Orders and rules for the establish,
ment and good governnient of the said thirteen Poor
Knights. The case of the Poor Knights (printed),
with several other papers relating to tliem.]
" Elijah't Maatle." — Who was the anthor of
Elijah's Mantle ? And are there any crounds for
ascribing it to Canning f W. Fkaser.
Tor-Mohun.
[Hiis poem was attributed to Cunning, as noticed
by Mr. Bell, in his Life of George Canaing, p. 206.
He says, " Mr. Canning's reputation was again put
Milton seems to have dwelt widi pleasure on
his intercourse with these witty, injieniotis, and
learned men, during bis two-months' sojourn at
Florence ; and it is remarkable that Nicolas Hds-
siuB has spoken of the same men, in much tiie
Bttme terms, In bia dedication to Carlo Dati of t*>e
second book of his Iltdici CompoaimeiUi :
" Sanctum mehercules habebo semper Jo. Bapt. Doaij
memoriam, non tarn suo nomine («t li hoc quoque)
aut quod Freicobaldos, Caralcintes, Gaddios, Caltd-
linos, (dios urbis restre viros precipuos mihi conciliarit,
quorum amicitiam feci hactenus, et titciam porrd
cujus opera in notitiam, ac familiarilatem plurimoTum
apud vos hominum esimiorum rooi irreperem."
And, ai^r mentioning others, he adds ;
*^ Quid de Valerlo Chimentellio, homine omni Ittei^
turn perpalita, dicani? Quid de Joanne Pricteo? qui
One feels some degree i
meeting here with the ns
Of the distinguished tr
(Vol. ii., p. 146. ; VoL viii., p. 237.)
When I gave some account of La Tina of
Antonio Malatcsti, and its dedication to Milton,
two years since, I was not aware that it had been
printed, aa I had no other edition of Gamba's
Serie delT Edixioni de' TecH di Lingua, than the
£rst printed in 1812. That account was derived
from the original MS. which formerly passed
through my hands. I fear tJiaC mj friend Mr.
Bolton Coknbt will be disappointed if he should
meet with a copy of the printed book, for the MS.
contained no other dedication than the inscription
on the title-page, of which I made a tracing. It
represents an inscribed stone tablet, in the follow-
ing arrangement :
Tiaa. Equiuoci Rustical!
di Antonio Malatesti co-
puEti nella eua Villa di
Taiano il Settembre dell*
L'Anno, 1637.
Sonetti Cinquanta
Dedicati all' 111"' Signorc
Et Padrone Osi-° 11 Signor'
Giouanni Milton Nobll'
Inghilese."
Z copied at the tjme eight of these equivocal
sonnets, and in my farmer notice gave one as a
specimen. Tbey are certainly very ingenious,
and may be "graziosbsimi" to an Italian ear and
imagination \ but I cannot think that the pure
mind of Milton would take much delight in ob-
scene alluuotis, however neatly wrapped np.
disappointment at not
le of Milton,
n mentioned by Milton,
occur in that ourions
little volume, the Bibliotkeca Apromata. Bene-
detto Buommattei and Carlo Dati are well known
from their important labours ; and of the others
there arc scattered notices in Rilli Notizie dtgU
Uontini lUustre Fiorentine, and in Sidvini FaxU
Consolari ddV Accademia Fioreniina. I have an
interesting little -volume of Latin verses by Jacopo
Gaddi, with the following title : Poetica Jacobt
Gaddii Corona e Sdeelis Poematiis, Notia AUe-
goriia conlexta, Bononis, 1637, 4to.
There is a good deal of ingenious and pleasing
burlesque poetry extant hj Antonio Malatesti.
I have before mentioned his Sphinx: of this I
have a dateless edition, apparently printed about
the middle of the last century at Florence: the
title is La Sfinge Enimmi del Signor Antanio Ma-
latesti. Commendatory verses are prefixed by
Chimcntelli, Coltellini, and Galileo Galilei. Thei
last, from the celebrity of the writer, may deserve
the small space it will occupy in your pages. It
is itself an enigma :
■• Del SiQNoa GaLd.co Galilei
SONPITO.
Mostro sou' lo p\ii sliano, e plii difforme,
Che I'Arpii, la Sirens, o la Chimera ;
Ch' abbia di membra coii varie fbrme.
>, e r altra
-ohou
Piit Che s' una sia bianc
Spesso di Caociator diet
Che de' miei pie van ritraeeiando 1'
Nelle tenebre oscure ^ il mio soggiotno ;
Che se dall' ombre il chiaro lume paaao,
Tosto r alma da me sen fugge, come
Sen fu^e il sognoall' apparir del giomo,
E le mie membra diiunito laato,
£ 1' ester perdo con la vita, ^ 1 nomc*
296
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 204.
Three more lonneU bj this illastrlous man are
printed b; SiUvini iu bia Fasli, of which he eaje :
" I quali nsenila pnrto di H gmn menle, mi cnn-
cederj la gloiU il benl);nD Icttorc, chc io, nd honore
deUa Toicuii Posiii, gli esponga il prima alia pubiica
Dr. Fellowcs was not singular in confounding
Dati and Deodati ; it had been done by Fentun
and others : but that Dr. Symmons, in his Life of
Milton (p. 133.)i should transform La Tina into
a jcine-prea), is ludicrously amusing. Za Tina is
the rustic mistress to whom the sonnets are sup-
jKMed to be addressed ; and every one knows that
ruslicale and contadiiifsca is that naive and pleas-
ing rustic style in which the Florentine poets
delighted, from tlie expresaive nature of the patois
of the Tuscan peasantry ; and it might have been
flaid of Malutesti's sonnets, as of another rustic
■poet:
" Ipsa Venus laptos jam nunc miftravit in ogros
I may just remark that the ClemenHlh of Milton
■ should not be rendered ClemeTilini, but Chimenlelti.
Ae UoUi tells us, —
" Clemen till u I fu iiuel Dottore y'alrrio Chimenlelti
di eui leggesi una vaghjssima CicaUla nel sesCo volume
.delle PiosG Fioreiitine."
S. W. SiHOEE.
Micktehsm.
" wnrdahip," " pupillage," &c., seem to smack too
much of legal teclinology to countenance the sup"
position of poetic license.
But liad I not accidentally met with an in-
teresting confirmation of Ben Jonson's law of
usage, or usage of law, I should not have put
forth my Query at nil, nor presumed to address it
to PaoFESsoB De Mohgan ; iny principal reason
for so doing being that the interest nttoching to
discovered evidence of a forgotten usage in legal
reckoning, must of course be increosed tonfolrl if
it should appear to have been unknown to a gen-
tleman of such deep and acknowledged research
into that and kindred subjects.
In a black-letter octavo entitled A Concordancie
of Vearet, published in and for the year 1615, and
therefore about the very time when Ben Jonson
was writing, I find the following in chap. xiii. :
" Tlie day la ot two sorts, natural and arlillciaU ; the
nntuisl da; is the space of 34 hours, in n'hicli time the
d bjtl
■game
ATTAlNJtBKT O
I greatly regret that there should be anything
1q the matter or manner of my Query on this sub-
ject to induce Mb. Ds Mobgah to reply to it
more as if repelling an olTence, than assisting in
the investisatmn of an interesting question on a
subject with which he is supposed to be especially
conversant. I can assure him that I hod no other
object in writing ninth numerically instead of
literally, or in omitting the words he has restored
In brackets, or in italicising two words to which I
wished my question more particularly to refer,
than that of economising space and avoiding need-
less repetition ; and in the use of the word
" usage ' rnther than " law," of which he also
complains, I was perhaps unduly influenced by the
title of hia own treatise, from which I was quoting.
But however I may have erred from e.iact quo-
tation, it is manifest I did not misunderstand the
sense of the passage, since Mb. Db Mobqan now
repeats its substance in these words, —
" I cannot mate out that the law ever recognised a
da; of twenty-four liours, beginning at any hour ex-
cept midnight."
This is clearly at direct issue with Ben Jonson,
whose introduced phrases, "pleaded nonage,"
ificiall day continues from sunne-iiiing to
sunne-setting : and ihe attiflclBll night is from the
suiine's setting to his rising. And you must note that
this natural day, according to divers. Iiatti divers Ixs
ginnings : As the Romanes count it from mid-night to
mid-night, Wcause at thai time out Lorde was borne,
being Sunday ; and so do we oceount it for Ristine
dayes. 'Die Arabians begin their day at noone, and
end at noone the neit day ; for because they say the
sunne was made in Ihe meridian; and so do all as-
tronomers account the day. because it alwayes falleth
at one certaine time. Tbe Umbrians. the Tuscans, the
Jewes, tlie Athenians, Italians, and Egyptians, do be^n
their day at sunne-set, and so do we celebrate fiistiTBll
dayes. Tlie Babylonians, Persians, and Bohemians
begin their day at sunne-rising, holding till sunne-
lelting ; and h) do our laaytn tounl it in Eagland."
Here, at least, there can be no supposition of
dramatic fiction ; the book from which I hava
made this extract was written by Arthur Hopton,
a distinguished mathematician, a scholar of Ox-
ford, a student in the Temple ; and the volume
itself is dedicated to " The Right Honourable Sir
Edward Coke, Knight, Lord Chiefs Justice of
England," &c. A.E.B.
Leeds, Sept. la
(Vol. viii., p. 222.)
He is supposed to have been the son of Richard
Frewen, of Earl's Court, in Worcestershire, and
was born either at that place or in its immCMliate
vicinity in the early part of the year 1558. Richard
Freweu purchased the presentation to Northiam
rectory, in Sussex, of Viscount Montague, and
presented John Frewen to it iu Nov. 1583; and
Sept. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
29t
he continued to hold that living till his death,
which took place at the end of April, 1628.
He was buried in the chancel of his own church,
May 2nd ; and a plain stone on the floor, with an
inscription, marks the place of his interment. He
was a learned and pious Puritan divine, and
wrote :
1. " Certaine Fruitfull Instructions and necessary
Doctrine meete to edify in the feare of God." 1587,
18 mo.
2. " Certaine Fruitfull Instructions for the generall
Cause of Reformation against the Slanders of the Pope
and League, &c." 1589, small 4to.
3. He edited and wrote the preface to —
" A Courteous Conference with the English Catho-
lickes Romane, about the Six Articles ministered unto
the Seminarie Priestes, wherein it is apparently proved
by theire owne divinitie, and the principles of their
owne religion, that the Pope cannot depose her Majestie,
or release her subjects of their alleageance unto her,
&c. ; written by John Bishop, a recusant Papist."
1598. Small 4to.
4. " Certaine Sermons on the 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8
verses of the Eleventh chapter of S. Paule his Epistle
to the Romanes." 1612, 12mo.
5. " Certaine choise Grounds and Principles of our
Christian Religion." 1621, 12mo.
6. A large unpublished work in MS. entitled
** Grounds and Principles of Christian Religion,"
left unfinished (probably age and infirmity pre-
vented him from completing it) : it consisted of
seven books, of which two only (the fourth and
fifth, of 95 and 98 folio pages respectively) have
been preserved.
John Frewen had three wives, and by each of
the first two several children, of whom the follow-
ing lived to grow up, viz. by Eleanor his first
wife, (1.) Accepted Frewen, Archbp. of York;
(2.) Thankful F., Purse Bearer and Secretary of
Petitions to Lord Keeper Coventry ; (3.) John
F., Rector of Northiam ; (4.) Stephen F., Alder-
man of the Vintry Ward, London ; (5.) Mary,
wife of John Bigg of Newcastle-upon-Tyne ; (6.)
Joseph F. By his second wife, Helen, daughter
of Hunt, J. F. had (7.) Benjamin, Citizen
of London; (8.) Thomas F. ; (9.) Samuel,
Joseph, Thomas, and Samuel joined Cromwell's
army for invading Ireland ; and one of them
(Captain Frewen) fell at the storming of Kil-
kenny ; another of them died at Limerick of the
plague, which carried off General Freton ; the
other (Thomas) founded a family at Castle Connel,
near Limerick.
John Frewen's Sermoiis in 1612 are in some
respects rare ; but the following copies are extant,
viz. one in the Bodleian at Oxford ; one in the
University Library at Cambridge ; one in po3ses-
sion of Mr. Frewen at Brickwall, Northiam ; and
one sold by Kerslake of Bristol, for 7*. 6^., to the
Eev. John Frewen Moor, of Bradfield, Berks.
If R. C. Warde, of Kidderminster, has a copy
which he would dispose of, he may communicate
with T. F., Post-office, Northiam, who would be
glad to purchase it. J. F.
" VOIDING KKIFE," "VOIDER," AND " ALMS-BASKET.'*
(Vol. vi., pp. 150. 280. ; Vol. viii., p. 232.)
In later times (the sixteenth century) the good
old custom of placing an alms-dish on the table was
discontinued, and with less charitable intentions
came the less refined custom of removing the
broken victuals after a meal by means of a voiding-'
knife and voider: the latter was a basket into
which were swept by a large wand, usually of
wood, or voiding-knife^ as it was termed, all the
bones and scraps left upon the trenchers or scat-
tered about the table. Thus, in the old plays,
Lingua, Act V. Sc. 13.: "Enter Gustus with a
voiding'knife ;^' and in A Woman hilled with Kind"
ness, " Enter three or four serving men, one with
a voider and wooden knife to take away."
The voider was still sometimes called the almS'
bashet, and had its charitable uses in great and
rich men's houses : one of which was to supply
those confined in gaols for debt, and such pri-
soners as had no means to purchase any food.
In Green's Tu Quoque, a spendthrift is cast into
prison ; the jailer says to him :
" If you have no money, you had best remove into
some cheaper ward; to the twopenny ward, it is
likeliest to hold out with your means ; or, if you will,
you may go into the hole, and there you may feed for
nothing."
To which he replies :
" Ay, out of the cdms-bashet, where charity appears
in likeness of a piece of stinking fish."
Even this poor allowance to the distressed pri-
soners passed through several ordeals before it
came to them ; and the best and most wholesome
portions were filched from the alms'hashet, and
sold by the jailers at a low price to people out of
the prison. In the same play it is related of a
miser, that —
" He never saw a joint of mutton in his own house these
four-and-twenty years, but always cozened the poor
prisoners, for he bought his victuals out of the a/ms-
basket"
In the ordinances of Charles II. (Ord, and Reg.
Soc, Ant, 367.), it is commanded —
" That no gentleman whatsoever shall send away any
meat or wine from the table, or out of the chamber*
upon any pretence whatsoever ; and that the gentle-
men-ushers take particular care herein, that all the
meate that is taken off the table upon trencher-plates
be put into a basket for the poore, and not undecently
eaten by any servant in the roome ; and if any person
shall presume to do otherwise, he shall be prohibited
298
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 204.
immcdiatdy to reroaine in the dismber, or to oome
there i^^aiiif until further order.'*
The alms'hasket was also called a mctundf and
those who partook of its contents maunders,
W. Chaffers.
Old Bond Street.
THE LETTER
"h" IX HUMBLE.
(Vol. viii., p. 229.)
The recent attempt to introduce a mispronun-
ciation of the word humble should be resisted by
every one who has learned the plain and simple
rule of grammar, that " a becomes an before a
Towel or a silent A." That the rule obtained a
considerable time ago, we have only to look into
the Book of Common Prayer to prove, where the
congregation are exhorted to come ^* with an
humble, lowly, penitent, and obedient heart,** and
I believe it will be admitted that the compilers of
that work fully understood the right pronunciation.
It may assist to settle the question by giving
the etymology of the word humble. It is derived
from the Celtic utm, the ground, Latin httmus,
Umal in Celtic is humble, lowlvy obedient; and
the word signifies the bending of the mind or dis-
position, just as a man would kneel or become
prostrate before a superior. Eras. Crosslet.
In the course of a somewhat long life I have
resided in the North of England, in the West, and
in London, upwards of twenty years each, and my
experience is directly the reverse of that of Mr.
Dawson. I have very rarely heard the h omitted
in humble, and when I have heard it, always con-
sidered a vulgarity. The u at the beginning of a
word is always aspirated. I believe the only
words in which the mitial h is not pronounced are
derived from the Latin. If that were the general
rule, which, however, it is not, as in habit, herb,
&c., still, where h precedes ti, it would be pro-
nounced according to the universal rule for the
aspiration of «. E. H.
The letter " h ** to be passed unsounded in those
words which are of Latin origin, — Try it :
** Ha ! 'tis a horrible hallucination
To grudge our hymns their halcyon harmonies.
When in just homage our rapt voices rise
To celebrate our heroes in meet fashion ;
Whose hosts each heritage and habitation,
Within these realms of hospitable joy,
Protect securely *gainst humiliation.
When hostile foes, like harpies, would annoy.
Habituated to the sound of h
In history and histrionic art.
We deem the man a homicide of speech.
Maiming humanity in a vital part.
Whose humorous hilarity would treat us.
In lieu of A, with a supposed hiatus."
* *
SCHOOL rJERAMBS.
(Vol. viii., p. 220.)
I have great pleasure in removing from the
mind of your correspondent an erroneous im-
pression which must materially afifect his good
opinion of a school to which I am sincerely at-*
tached. He asks if in any of the public schools
there are libraries of books giving general inform-
ation accessible to the scholars. Now my in-
formation only refers to one, that of Eton. There
is a library at Eton consisting of some thousand
volumes, filled with books of all kinds, ancient and
modern, valuable and valueless. It is open to the
150 first in the school on payment of eighteen
shillings per annum, and pn their refusal the
option of becoming subscribers descends to the
next in gradation. The list, however, is never
full. The money collected goes to the support
of a librarian, and to buy pens, ink, and paper,
and the surplus (necessarily small) to the purchase
of books. The basis of the library is the set of
Delphin classics, presented by George I. The
late head master (now provost) has been a most
munificent contributor; Prince Albert has also
presented several valuable Tolumes. Whenever
the Prince has come to Eton he has always visited
the library, and taken great interest in its welfare ;
and on his last visit said to the provost that he
should be quite ready and willing to obey the call
whenever he was asked to lay the first atone of a
museum in connexion with the library.
ETONSMSn.
The free ^ammar school at Macclesfield,
Cheshire, has always had a library. It did contain
some rare volumes of the olden time ; it was at
various times more or less supported by a small
payment from the scholars. Some years since
Mr. Osborn, the then head master, soucited sub-
scriptions fVom former pupils, and with some
success. Of the present state of the school li-
brary I know nothing. Edward Hawkins.
At Winchester there are libraries for the com-
moners and scholars containing books for general
reading : they are under the several chaise of the
commoner-prefects and the prefect of library, who
lend them on application to the juniors.
Mackenzie Walcott, M.A.
Christ*s Hospital has a library such as inquired
after by Mb. Weld Taylor. The late Mr.
Thackeray, of the Priory, Lewisham (who died
about two years ago), bequeathed to this school
his valuable library of books on seneral literature
for the use of the boys. Previously to this be-
quest the collection of books was small. N.
Sept. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
299
DB. JOHN TATLOB.
(Vol. i., p. 466.)
My attention lias been caught by some remains
in the early volumes of your work upon my learned
ancestor Dr. John Taylor, minister at Norwich,
and subsequently divinity tutor at Warrington.
Whatever opinion may hiave been attributed to
Dr. Parr concerning Dr. Taylor, this I know, that
on revisiting Norwich he desired my father (the
Dr.'s grandson) to show him the house inhabited
by him while he was the minister of the Octagon
Chapel.
Dr. Parr looked serious and solemn, and in his
usual energetic manner pronounced, " He was a
great scholar."
Dr. John Taylor was buried at Kirkstead *,
Lancashire, where his tomb is distinguished by
the following simple inscription :
** Near to this place lies interr'd
what was mortal of
loHK Tatlor, D. D.
Reader,
Expect no eulogium from this Stone.
Enquire amongst the friends of
Learning, Liberty, and Truth ;
These will do him justice.
Whilst taking his natural rest, he fell
asleep in Jesus, the 5th of March, 1761,
Aged 66r
The following inscription, in Latin, was com-
posed by Dr. Parr for a monumental stone erected
by grandchildren and great-grandchildren in the
Cfctagon Chapel, Norwich :
** JoANNi Taylor, S.T.P.
Langovici nato
Albi ostii in agro Cumbriensi
bonis disciplinis instituto
Norvici
Ad exequendum munus pastoris delecto a.d. 1733.
Rigoduni quo in oppldo
Senex quotidie aliquld addiscens
Theologiam et philosophiara moral em docuit
Mortuo
Tert. non. Mart.
Anno Domini mdcclxi.
.ffitat. Lxvi.
Viro integro innocent! pio
Scriptori Graecis et Hebraicis litteris
probe erudito
Verbi divini gravissimo interpret!
Religionis simplicis et incorrnptee
Acerrimo propugnatori
Nepotes ejus et pronepotes
In hac Capella
Cujus ille fundamenta olim jecerat
Monumentum hocce honorarium
Poni curaverunt."
S. R.
* His first appointment, as minister of the Gospel,
was at Kirkstead Chapel.
PORTRAIT OF SIR ANTHONT WIVOFIBLD.
(Vol. viii., p. 245.)
It is most likely that Q., who inquired relative
to a picture of Sir Anthony Wingfield, may occa-
sionally meet with an engraving of this worthy,
though the depository of the original portrait is
unknown. The tale told Horace Walpole by the
housekeeper at the house of the Nauntons at
Letheringham, Suffolk, is not correct. Sir An-
thony was a favourite of the monarch, and was
knighted by him for his brave conduct at Te-
rouenne and Toumay. A private plate of Sir
Anthony exists, the original portrait from which
it was taken being at Letheringham at the time
the engraving was made. The position of the
hand in the girdle only indicates the fashion of
portraiture at the time, and is akin to the frequent
custom of placing one arm a-kimbo in modern
paintings.
The Query of your correspondent opens a tale
of despoliation perhaps unparalleled even in the
days of iconoclastic fury, and but very imperfectly
known.
The estate of Letheringham devolved, about the
middle of the last century, upon William Leman,
Esq., who, being obliged to maintain his right
against claimants stating they descended from a
branch of the Naunton family who had migrated
into Normandy at the end of the preceding cen-
tury, was placed in a position of considerable dif-
ficulty to defend his occupation of the house and
lands. I will not say by whom, but in 1770 down
came the residence in which the author of the
well-known Fragmenta Regalia had resided, and,
what is far worse, the Priory Church, which, after
the Dissolution, was made parochial, and which
was filled with tombs, effigies, and brasses to
members of the family — BoviUes, Wingfields, and
Nauntons — was also levelled with the ground.
It was stated at the time that the sacred edifice
had only become dilapidated from age, and that
the parishioners were therefore obliged to do
something. What was done, however, was no re-
edification of the fabric, but its entire destruction,
and the erection of a new church. Fortunately,
Horace Walpole saw the edifice before the con-
tractor for the new building had cast his *^ desiring
eyes " upon it, and has recorded his impressions in
one of his letters. More fortunate still, the late
Mr. Gough and Mr. Nichols visited it, and the
former employed the well-known topographical
draughtsman, the late James Johnson of Wood-
bridge, SufTolk, to copy some of the effigies, which
were afterwards engraved and inserted in the
second volume of the Sepulchral Monuments. The
zeal of Johnson, however, led him to preserve, by
his minute delineation, not only every monument
(onlv two, I think, are given by Gough), but also
the interior and exterior of the church, with the
300
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 204.
position of the tombs. The interior view may be
seen among Craven Ord's drawings in the library
of the British Museum ; and I am hnppy to say
I possess Johnson*s original sketches of all the
monuments, and of the exterior of the building.
A fair idea of the extent of the destruction may
be gained by the mention of the fact, that six
hundred-weight of alabaster effigies were beaten
into powder, and sold to line water-cisterns. Some
of the figures were rescued by the late Dr. W.
Clubbe, and erected into a pyramid in his garden
at Brandeston Vicarage, with this inscription :
**Fuimu8* Indignant Reader, these monumental re-
mains are not (as thou mayest suppose) the ruins of
Hme, but were destroyed in an irruption of the Gotbs
so late in the Christian era as the year 1789. Crtdltt
potteri,**
John Woddehspoon.
Norwich.
William Naunton, son and heir of Thomas
Naunton (temp. Hen.VII.)* and Margery, daugh-
ter and heiress of Richard Busiarde, married Eli-
zabeth, daughter of Sir Anthony Wingfield. Their
only child, Henry Naunton, was the father of two
sons, viz. Robert the secretary (temp. James I.),
whose son died unmarried, and daughter, married
to Paul Viscount Bayning, died without issue ; and
William Naunton (fil. 2'). His son and heir, who
married a Coke, had one daughter, Theophila,
married to William Leman (ancestor of the family
whose great estates are in search of an owner) :
their only issue, Theophila, married Thomas Rede,
who thereby became possessed of Letheringham
in Suffolk, and the whole of the Naunton pro-
perty. His estates went to his son Robert, who,
dying without issue in 1822, left them much di-
minished to his nephew, the Rev. Robert Rede
Cooper, second son of the Rev. Samuel Lovick-
Cooper and Sarah Leman, youngest daughter, and
eventually heiress, of the above Thomas Rede.
The Rev. Robert Rede Rede (for he assumed that
name) died a few years ago possessed of Ashmans
Park, Suff., which was independent of the Naun-
ton property, and of certain heir-looms, the sole
remains of the great estates of the " Nauntons of
Letheringham," which continue in the possession
of the descendants of that family. It is at Ash-
mans that the portrait inquired for by your corre-
spondent Q. will probably be found. Whether
that estate has already been sold by the daughters
of the late possessor (four co-heiresses) I am un-
able to say. H. C. K.
BARNACLES.
(Vol. viii., p. 223.)
In reference to the article on the barnacle bird
in " N. & Q." as above, I send you a paper which
I lately put in our local journal (The Tralee
Chronicle)^ containing a collection of notices of
the curious errors and gradual correction of them,
on the subject of the barnacle. I fear it may be
long for your columns, but don^t know how to
shorten it; nor can I well omit another amusing
notice of the subject, to which, since I published
it, an intelligent friend called my attention ; it is
from the Memoirs of Lady Fanshaw: —
" When we came to Calais, we met the Earl of
Strafford and Sir Kenelm Digby, with some others of
our countrymen; we were all feasted at the Governor*s
of the castle, and much excellent discourse passed ;
but, as was reason, most share was Sir Kenelm Digby*s,
who had enlarged somewhat more in extraordinary
stories than might be averred, and all of them passed
with great applause and wonder of the French then at
table ; but the concluding one was — that barnacles, a
bird in Jersey, was first a shell-fish to appearance, and
from that sticking upon old wood, became in time a
bird. Af^ersonie consideration, they unanimously burst
out into laup^htcr, believing it altogether false, and, to
say the truth, it was the only thing true he bad dis-
coursed with them! — that was Iiis infirmity, tho*
otherwise a person of most excellent parts, and a very
free bred gentleman." — Lady Fanshaw*s Memmr^
pp. 72-3.
A. B. B.
Belmont.
As a tail-piece to the curious information
communicated respecting these strange creatures
in Vol. i., pp. 117. 169. 254. 840., Vol. viii^
pp. 124. 223., may be added an advertisement^ ex-
tracted from the monthly compendium annexed
to La Belle Assemhlee^ or BelFs Court and Fa^
shionahle Magazine^ for June, 1807, in the fblloir-
ing terms :
" Wonderful natural curiosity, called the Goose Tree»
Barnacle Tree, or Tree bearing Geese, taken up at sea,
on the 12th of January, 1807, by Captain Bytheway,
and was more than twenty men could raise out of the
water, which may be seen at the Exhibition Rooms*
Spring Gardens, from ten o'clock in the morning till
ten at night, every day. Admission, one shilling;
children half-price.
" The Barnacles which form the present Exhibitioiiy
possess a neck upwards of two feet in length, resem-
bling the windpipe of a chicken ; each shell contains
five piecQs, and notwithstanding the many thousands
which hang to eight inches of the tree, part of the fowl
may be seen from each shell. Sir Robert Moxay, in
the Wonders of Nature and Art, speaking of this sin-
gularly curious production, says, in every shell he
opened he found a perfect sea-fowl, with a bill like
that of a goose, feet like those of water-fowl, and the
feathers all plainly formed.
**The above wonderful and almost indescribable
curiosity, is the only exhibition of the kind in the
world."
Sept. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
301
PHOTOGBAPHIC COBBESPONDENCE.
Precision in Photographic Processes, — I have
for a long period observed, and been much an-
noyed at the circumstance, that many of your
photographic correspondents are very remiss when
they favour you with recipes for certain processes,
in not stating the specific gravity of the articles
used ; also, in giving the quantities, in not stating
if it is by weight or measure.
To illustrate my meaning more fully, I will
refer to Vol. viii., p. 252., where a correspondent,
in his albumen process, adds " chloride of barium,
7i dr." Now, as this article is prepared and sold
both in crystals and in a liquid state, it would be
desirable to know which of the two is meant before
his disciples run the risk of spoiling their paper
and losing their time.
How easy would it be to prefix the letter f
Vfhere fluid oz., dr., or other quantity is meant.
Trusting that this hint may in future induce
your correspondents to be as explicit as possible
on all points, believe me to be an
Amateub Fhotogbapheb.
Tent for Collodion, — As I have frequently be-
nefited from the hints of your correspondents, I
in my turn hasten to communicate a very simple
plan I have contrived for a portable tent for the
collodion process, in the hope it pnay be found to
answer with others as well as it has done with me :
it is as follows.
Bound the legs of my camera stand (a tripod
one) I have made a covering for two of the sides,
of a double lining of glazed yellow calico, with a
few loops at the foot to stake to the ground ; the
third side is made of thick dark cloth, much wider
and larger than to cover the side, which is fastened
at one leg of the stand to the calico. The other
side is provided with loops to fasten to correspond-
ing buttons on the other leg, and by bending on
my knees I can easily pull the dark cloth over
my head and back, fasten the loops to the buttons,
and then I can perfectly perform any manipulation
required, without the risk of any ray of white
light entering ; and certainly nothing can be more
portable.
The simplicity of the thing makes any farther
description of it unnecessary, to say nothing of
your valuable space. Jan.
Mr. Sisso7i^s Developing Solution, — The Rev.
Mb. Sisson, in a letter I received from him a few
days ago, stated that he had been trying, at the
recommendation of a gentleman who had written
to him upon the subject, a stronger developing
solution than that the formula for which he pub-
lished some time back in your pages, and that it
gave splendid positive pictures with very short
exposure in the camera.
Since I received his letter I have been able to
corroborate his testimony in favour of the stronger
solution, and have much pleasure in sending you
the formula for the benefit of your readers. It is
this : I J drachms of protosulphate of iron in five
ounces of water, 1 drachm of nitrate of lead,
letting it settle for some hours ; pour off the clear
liquid, and then add to it 2 drachms of acetic
acid. J. Leachman.
20. Compton Terrace, Islington.
Mr, Stewarts Pantograph, — Will some of your
photographic readers, who may know the proper
size of Wb. Stewabt*s pantograph, give a detailed
description of it ? We should have focal length
of lens, size of box, and the length of the sliding
parts of it. Cannot the lens be made fast in the
middle of the box, provided the frames can be
adjusted for different- sized pictures? R. Elliott.
George Browne of Shefford (Vol. viii., p. 243.).
— I observe that in your interesting publication
you have inserted the Query which I sent you
long since. A somewhat similar Query of mine
has already appeared, and been answered by your
correspondents H. C. C. and T. Hughes ; the
latter stating that my particulars are not strictly
correct, inasmuch as the individual styled by me
as " Sir George Browne, Bart." was in reality
simple " George Browne, J^*^." I admit this
error ; but if I was wrong Mb. Hughes was so
too, for George Browne's wife was Eleanor, and
not Elizabeth, Blount, as appears by his afiidavit
in the State Paper Office, wherein he deposes that
he " had by Bllinor, his late wife, deceased daugh-
ter of Sir Richard Blount, eight sons, namely,
George, Richard, Anthony, John, William, Henry,
Francis, and Robert, and seven daughters."
The sons are thus disposed of:
1. George, created K. B. at the coronation of
Charles IL; married Elizabeth Englefield; had
issue two daughters ; died 1678.
2. Richard, a captain in the king's army, 1649,
and was dead in 1650.
3. Anthony, who was " preferred to the trade
ofaMarchant," 1650.
4. John, a page to Prince Thomas, uncle to the
Duke of Savoy; created Bart. 1665; married
Mrs. Bradley ; had issue.
5. William, had a " reversion of a copyhold in
Shefford."
6. Henry, died unmarried, 1668; buried at
Shefford.
7. Francis, nine years old in 1651 ; and
8. Robert, four years old in 1651.
In that year (1651) Henry, Francis, and
Robert were living with their guardian, Mr.
302
NOTES AND QUEBIE&
[No. 204.
Libb, of liardwick, Oxon; and booh afterwards
we find them placed under the care of a clergy-
man at Appleshaw. But here wo seem to lose
Bight of them altogether.
Mr. IIughjss says that the only sons who married
were Greorgc, the heir, and John, the younger
brother ; but we have no evidence of tliis ; and as
it is probable that some of the others, namely,
Richard, Anthony, William, Francis, and Robert,
married, I wish to procure proof either that they
did or did not. If any of these married, I wish to
know which of them, to whom, and when and
where.
Perhaps some of your correspondents can tell
me where Richard, Anthony, and William re-
aided, and what became of Francis and Robert
after they had left their tutor, the minister of
Appleshaw. Nbwbububmsis.
Wheale (Vol. vi., p. 579. ; Vol. vii., p. 96.).—
Since this word is once more brought forward in
" N. & Q." (Vol. viii., p. 208.), I will answer the
Query respecting it. 1 was prepared to do so
shortly afler it first appeared, but I had reason to
expect a reply from one more conversant with
such archaisms. If the Querist, or either respon-
dent, had examined the context, he could not
have failed to discover a clue to the meaning, as
the words " call of dragons " instead of " wine,"
and ^* wheale ' instead of "milk," are evidently
translations of some expressions in the preface of
Pope Sixtus (or Xystus) V., to his edition of the
Vulgate. The words there are " fel draconum pro
vino, pro lacte sanies obtruderetur." W^heale more
commonly signified, in later times, a pustule or
boil ; but it is from the Ang.-Sax. hwele, putre-
faction. The bad taste of such language is too
manifest to recj^uire farther comment.
If I were disposed to conclude with a Query, I
might ask where Q. found that wheale ever meant
whe;/ f W. S. W.
Middle Temple.
Sir Arthur Aston (Vol. viii., p. 126.). — He was
appointed Governor of Reading, November 29,
1642 ; that his relative, Geo. Tattershall, Esq.,
was of Stapleford, Wilts, and only purchased the
estate. West Court in Finchampstead, which went,
on the marriage of his daughter, to the Hon. Chas.
Howard, fourth son of the Earl of Arundel, and
was sold by him. A Readbb.
^^ A Mockery,'' ^c. (Vol. viii., p. 244.).— Thomas
Lord Denman is the author of the phrase in ques-
tion. That noble lord, in giving his judgment in
the case of O'Connell and others against the Queen,
in the House of Lords, September 4, 1844, thus
alluded to the judgment of the Court of Queen*s
Bench in Ireland, overruling the challenge by the
traversers to the array, on account of the fraudu-
lent omission of fifty-nine names from the list of
jurors of the county of the city of Dublin :
•* If it is possible that tudi a practice as that which
has taken place in the present instance should be al-
lowed to pass without a remedy (and no other remedy
has been suggested), trial by jury itself instead of
being a security to persona wbo are accused, will be a
dehttioitt a mockery^ and a anare"
See Clark and Finnelly's Reports of Cases in the
House of Lords, vol. xi. p. 351. C. H. Coopeb.
Cambridge.
Norman of Winster (Vol. viii., p. 126.). — I do
not know if W. is aware that there was a family
of Norman who was possessed of a share of the
manor of Beeley, in the parish of Ashford, Derby-
shire, which came from the Savilles, the said
manor having been purchased by Wm. Saville,
Esq., 1687. A Rbabsr.
Arms of the See of York (Vol. viii., pp. 34. 111.
233.). — Thoroton has a curious note on this sab-
ject in his History of Nottinghamshire (South
Muskham, in the east window of the chancel), from
which it would appear that neither Thoroton
himself, nor his atter-editor Thoresby, could be
aware of the change that had taken place. The
note, however, may help to complete the eakna
of those incumbents of the see of York who
(prior to Cardinal Wolsey) bore the same arms as
the see of Canterbury :
" There arc the arms of the see of Cdnterhury, im*
paling Arg, three boars* heads erased and erected table,
Booth, I doubt mistaken for the arms of Torkf as they
are with Archbishop Lce*s a^skin in the same window;
and in the hall window at Newstede the see of Cnn/cr-
bury impales Savage, wbo was Archbishop of I'bfAalsoi,
but not of Canterbury that 1 know of.** — Vol. iiu
p. 153., ed. Notts, 1796.
Can any of your antiquarian contributors say
why the sees of Canterbury and York bore
originally the same arms? Ilad it any relation
to the struggle for precedence carried on for so
many years between the two sees ? J. Sansom.
Mr. Waller, in his volume on Monumental
Brasses, in describinff that of William de Gren-
feld, Archbishop of York, says :
" The arms of the two archiepiscopal sees were for-
merly the same, and continued to be so till the Re«
formation, when the pall surmounting a crosier was
retained by Canterbury, and the cross keys and tiara
(emblematic of St. Peter, to whom the minster is de-
dicated), which until then had been used only for the
church of York, were adopted as the armorial bearings
of the see.'*
To the word " tiara** he appends a note :
** Or rather at this period a regal crown, the tiara
having been superseded in the reign of Henry VIII.**
Sept. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
303
He gives no authoritj for the statement, but
the note appears contradictoryj and implies two
changes in the first to the cross-keys and tiara,
which may corroborate the notion of its having
been adopted by Cardinal Wolsey ; secondly, the
substitution of the crown for the tiara. Can this
be proved ? F. H.
JRoger Wilbraham, JEsq.^s, Cheshire Collection
(Yol. viii., p. 270.). — It is probable these MSS.
are still at the family seat of the Wilbrahams,
Delamere Lodoje, Northwitch. When Ormerod
published his History of Cheshire., in 1819, they
were in the custody of the family. He says
(vol. iii. p. 232.) :
*' In the possession of the family is a curious series of
journals commenced by Richard WDbraham of Nant-
wich, who died in 1612, and continued regularly to the
time of his great-great-grandson» who died in 1732.
As a genealogical document, such a memorial is in-
valuable; and it contains many curious incidental no-
tices of passing events, and of minute particulars relat-
ing to the town of Nantwich, of whose rights the
Wilbrahams of Townsend were the never -failing and
active guardians."
J. Yeowell.
Pierrepont (Vol, YiUy p. 606.). — A descendant
thanks C. J. The information wanted is parent-
age and descent of John Pierrepont of Wad-
worth, who in a family mem. by his great-great-
granddaughter is called " Uncle to Evelyn, Earl
of P." Any information respecting John Pierre-
pont or his descendants through Margaret Stevens
will much oblige A. F. B.
Diss.
Passage in Bacon (Vol. viii., p. 141.). — In the
Notes on Bacon's Essay II. " On Death," there
appears the following :
*• In the passage of Juvenal, the words are * Qui
spatium vitae,' and not * Qui iinem vitae,' as quoted by
Lord Bacon. Length of days is meant.**
His lordship's memory and ear too certainly misled
him with respect to the wordings but he has cor-
rectly given us the sense, Juvenal has been
arguing (1. iv. Sat. x.) on the vanity of earthly
blessings, so called, in quite a philosophic way ;
it is hardly possible to suppose him closing his
sermon with —
** Fortem posce animum, mortis terrore carentem,
Qui spatium vitae extremum inter munera ponat
Naturae, qui ferre queat quoscumque labores,
Nesciat irasci, cupiat nihil, et potiores
Herculis aerumnas credat, saevosque labores,
£t Venere, et ccenis, et pluma Sardanapali."
if by spatium he meant " length ; " but how apt
and beautiful in Lord Bacon's sense I A note on
the passage in the Yar. Ed. of 1684 has *' Qui
sciat mortem munus aliquod natursB esse."
Emmakuei. Cajttab.
Monumental Inscription in Peterborough Caike*
dral (Vol. viii., p. 215.). — In consequence of the
very curious Notes communicated by H. Tho6»
Wake, I would beg to draw that gentleman's
attention to the very important MS. collections of
Bp. White Kennet on the subject of thb cathedral
in the Lansd. MSS., British Museum, to which I
shall be happy to give him the references in a
private letter, if he will favour me with his address.
E. G. BAIiLABD.
Lord North (Yol. vii., p. 207.). — I feel much
obliged to your corjespondent C. for his courtesy
in replying to my inquiry concerning this noble-
man. His remembrance of the personal appear*
ance of George III., and his remarks on the
subject, are in my opinion conclusive; but the
appearance of the statement in the Life of Gold-
smith was such as to provoke inquiry. May I
ask your correspondent C. (who appears to be ac-
quainted with the North genealogy) whether a
sister of the premier North, by the same mother,
was not alive some years after the year 1734?
Collins records the birth of an infant daughter:,
but the fact is overlooked in modern peerages.
Observer.
Landof Green Ging-er (Vol.viii-, pp. 34. 160.227.)*
— Mr. Frost, in his History y p. 71., &c., has shown
many instances of alteration in the names of stjreeta
in Hull from the names of persons, as from Alde^
gate to Scale Lane, from Schayl, a Dutchman;
and Mb. Bichabdson has made it most probable
that the designation "Land of Green Ginger"
took place betwixt 1640 and 1735. It has oc-
curred to me, that a family of the Dutch name of
Lindegreen (green lime-trees) resided at Hull
within the last fifty years or more. Now the
"junior" of this name would be called in Dutch
"LindegToen jonger," which may have originated
the corruption "Land o' green ginger." This
conjecture would amount to a solution of the
question, if the Lindegreens had about 150 years
ago any property or occupation in thb lane. The
Dutch had necessarily much intercourse with
Hull : one of their imports was the lamprey,
chiefly as bait for turbot, cod, &c., obtained in the
Ouse near the mouth of the Derwent ; which fish
was conveyed in boats in Ouse Water, and was
kept alive and lively by means of poles made to
revolve in these floating fish-ponds, as I was in-
formed by an alderman prior to the reform of that
ancient borough. But lamprey has now^ either
migrated, or been exterminated by clearing the
Ouse of stones*, or by the excessive cupidity of
the fisherman or gastronomer. T. J. Buckton*
Birmingham.
* The Petromyzon by attaching itself to a stone
forms a drill, by which it furrows the shoal for the
depont of Hs^ spawn.
304
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 204.
Sheer, and Shear Htdh (Vol. vii., p. 126.). — A
sheer bulk is a mere bulk, simply tbe bull of a
vessel unfurnished with masts and rigging. A
sTiear bulk, on tbe contrary, is tbe bull of a vessel
fitted witb shears (so termed from tbeir resem-
blance to tbe blades of a pair of sbears when
opened), for tbe purpose of masting and dismasting
otber vessels.
Tbe use of tbe word buckle, in tbe signification
of bend, is exceedinjjly common botb among sea-
men and builders. For its use among tbe former
I can vouch ; and among tbe latter, see tbe evi-
dence at the coroner*s inquest on the late melan-
cboly and mysterious accident at the Crystal
Palace. W. Pinkebton.
Ham.
Serpent with a Human Head (Vol. iv., p. 191.).
— The following passage from Gervasius Tilberi-
ensis (Otia Imperialia, lib, i. sect. 15.) shows that
tbe idea of the serpent which tempted Eve, having
a woman's bead, was current in tbe time of Bede.
I having not bad an opportunity of finding where-
abouts in Bede*s writings tbe passage quoted by
Gervasius occurs :
« Nee erit omlttendum, quod ait Beda, loquens de
serpente qui Evam seduxit : * Elegit enim diabolus
quoddam genus serpentis foemineum vultum habentis,
quia similes similibus applaudunt, et movit ad loquen-
dum linguam ejus.*'
C. W. G.
" When the maggot bites " (Vol. viii., p. 244.). —
An Anon correspondent asks for a note to explain
tbe origin of the saying that a thing done on tbe
spur of tbe moment is done "when tbe maggot
bites." Perhaps the best explanation is that
afforded in tbe following passage from Swift's
Discourse on the Mechanical Operation of the
Spirit :
" It is the opinion of choice virtuosi that the brain is
only a crowd of little animals with teeth and claws
extremely sharp, and which cling together in the con-
texture we behold, like the picture of Hobbes*s Levia-
than ; or like bees in perpendicular swarm on a tree ;
or like a carrion corrupted into vermin, still preserving
the shape and figure of the mother animal : that all
invention is formed by the raorsure of two or more of
these animals upon certain capillary nerves which pro-
ceed from thence, whereof three branches spring into
the tongue and two into the right hand. They hold
also that these animals are of a constitution extremely
cold : that their food is the air we attract, their excre-
ment phlegm. And that what we vulgarly call rheums,
and colds, and distillations, is nothing else but an epi-
demical looseness to which that little commonwealth is
very subject from the climate it lies under. Farther,
that nothing less than a violent heat can disentangle
these creatures from their hamated station in life ; or
give them vigour and humour, to imprint the marks of
their little teeth. That if the mocsure be hexagonal,
it produces poetry ; the circular gives eloquence. If
the bite hath been Conical, the person whose nerve is
so affected shall be disposed to write upon poUti«K;
and so of the rest."
J. Ehebson Teknest.
Definition of a Proverb (Vol. viii., p. 242.). —
The proverb, "Wit of one man, tbe wisdom of
many," has been attributed to Lord Jobn Russell:
I think in a recent number of tbe Quarterly Re"
view. The foundation was laid most probably by
Bacon :
" The genius, wit, and spirit of a nation are dis-
covered by their proverbs.*'
It may not be perhaps generally known to your
readers, that in a small volume, called Origines de
la Lengua Espanola, SfC, por Don Chegorio Ma*
yans y Siscar, Bibliothecario del Ret nuestro
Sehor, en Madrid, Aiio 1737, will be found a
numerous collection of Spanish proverbs. A MS.
note in my copy has a note, stating that tbe DdS.
made for Mayans, from tbe original, in tbe na-
tional library at Madrid, is now in the British
Museum, Additional MSS., No. 9939.
The work is divided into dialogues ; and in the
copy in question are some remarks by a Spanish
gentleman, I fear too long for your pages : but I
send you an English version by a friend, of one d
tbe couplets in the dialogues, " Diez marcos tengo
de oro :"
** Ten marks of gold for the telling.
And of silver I have nine score.
Good houses are mine to dwell in.
And I have a rent-roll more :
My line and lineage please me :
Ten squires to come at my call.
And no lord who flatters or fees me,
Which pleases me most of them all."
John Martin.
Woburn Abbey.
Gilbert White of Selbome (Vol. viii., p.244.).—
Oriel College, of which Gilbert White was for
more than fifty years a Fellow, some years since
offered to have a portrait of him painted for tbeir
ball. An inquiry was then made of all the mem-
bers of bis family ; but no portrait of any descrip-
tion could be found. I have beard my father say
that Gilbert White was much pressed by bis
brother Thomas (my grandfather) to have bis
portrait painted, and that be talked of it ; but it
was never done. A. Holt White.
"J Tub to the Whale'' (Vol. viii., p. 220.). — In
the Appendix B. to Sir James Macintoshes Life of
Sir Thomas More is the following passage :
** The learned Mr. Douce has informed a friend of
mine, that in Sebastian Munster*s Cosmography there
is a cut of a ship, to which a whale was comtug too
close for her safety ; and of the sailors throwing a tub
Sept. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
305
to the whale, evidently to play with. The practice of
throwing a tub or barrel to a large fish, to divert the
animal from gambols dangerous to a vessel, is also
mentioned in an old prose translation of the Ship of
Fools, These passages satisfactorily explain the com-
mon phrase of throwing a tub to a whale."
Sir James Macintosh conjectures that the phrase
"the tale of a tub" (which was familiarly known
in Sir Thomas More's time) had reference to the
tub thrown to the whale. C. H. Coof£b.
Cambridge.
The Number Nine (Yol. viii., p. 149.). — The
property of numbers enunciated and illustrated by
Mb. L.4MMENS resolves itself into two.
1. If from any number above nine be subtracted
the number expressed by writing the same digits
backwards, the remainder is divisible by nine.
2. If tlie number nine measure a given number,
it measures the sum of its digits.
As the latter is proved in most elementary books
on Algebra, I confine my proof to the former.
Let the number in question be —
Oo + a, . lO + fltj . 102 +
. + a
n-
Then
1 • lO'^-'+fl
v»_l
n- 10„
On + fln-l • lO + an-2 •102+.. +ai • 10''~' + ao • 10;^
is "the same number written backwards." The
difference is —
(a„-a,) (10«-l) + K_i-a,) (10"-2-l) .10+ . .
+ (a —a |C102— 1) . 102'~ if n be even, but
n-\
2 ~2~
And every term of this difference, as involving* a
factor of the form (1—10"), is divisible by 9 ; and
therefore the difference is divisible by 9.
C. Mansfield Inglebt .
Birmingham.
The Willivgham Boy, — Abbedonensis will find
full information on all the points he appears from
your Notices to Correspondents (Vol. viii., p. 66.)
to have inquired after in —
" Prodigium Willinghamense, or Authentic Memoirs
of the Life of a Boy born at Willingham, near Cam-
bridge, with some Reflections on his Understanding,
Strength, Temper, Memory, Genius, and Knowledge,
by Thos. Dawkes, Surgeon."
W.P.
Unluchj Days (Vol. vii., p. 232.). — The Latin
verses contained in the old Spanish breviary, ad-
verted to by W. PiNKEBTON, bear a close resem-
blance to those which are to be found in the Red
Book of the Irish Exchequer. The latter form
part of a calendar which is supposed to have been
written either durinc: the reign of John or
Henry III. A similar calendar, with like verses,
has been printed by the Archaeological Society,
Dublin. As the lines in the lied Book vary m
some respects from those which have appeared in
" N". & Q.," I have taken the liberty of inclosing
a transcript of them.
** January, Prima dies mensis, et septima truncat ut
ensis.
February. Quarta subit mortem, prostemit tertia
fortem.
March, Primus mandantem, dirumpit quarta bi-
bentem.
April. Denus et undenus, est mortis vulnere plenus.
May. Tertius occidit, et septimus hora relidit.
June, Denus pallescit, quindenus federa nescit.
July, Terdecimus mactat, Julii denus labefactat.
August. Prima necat fortem, perditque secunda cho«
ortem.
September. Tertia Septembris, et denus fert mala
membris.
October. Tertia cum dena, clamat sit Integra vena..
November, Scorpius est quintus, et tertius est nece
cinctus.
December, Septimus exanguis, virosus denus ut an-
guis."
James F. Febguson.
Dublin.
Rhymes on Places (Vol. vii. passim.), — Midlo-
thian :
" Musselboro* was a boro*,
Whan Edinboro' was nane ;
An Musselboro* Ml be a boro*.
Whan Edinboro's gane.*'
W. T. M.
Hong Kong.
Cambridgeshire folks say, —
" Hungry Hardwick,
Greedy Toft,
Hang-up Kingston,
Caldecott* naught."
P. J. F. Gantillon, B. a.
Quotation Wanted (Vol. vi., p. 421.). — See
Byron's Dream, stanza ii. v. 30. :
" She was his life,
The ocean to the river of his thoughts."
P. J. F. Gantillon, B. a.
Lamech (Vol. vii., p. 432.). — For "Lamech,"
see Mr. Browne's excellent Ordo Sceciorum, ch. vii.
§ 302., 1844 — a book deserving to be much more
widely known. S. Z. Z. S,
Muggers (Vol. viii., p. 34.). — The names mug-
gers and potters, betokening dealers in mugs and
pots, are, in the north of England, applied indis-
criminately to hawkers of earthenware, whether
of gipsy blood or not. Indeed, the majority are
evidently not gipsies. T. D. Ridlbt.
♦ Pronounced Cawcoie,
306
NOTES AND QUEBIEa
[Na 204.
KOTE8 OH BOOKS, BTO.
We have receWed from Messrs. Williams and Nor-
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periodicals, with which, when they know their nature,
some of our readers may desire better acquaintance.
Our antiquarian friends, for instance, may be glad to
know, that the opening number of one of these, the
Anzeige fur Kunde de» Deutschen Vorzeit, Organ dea
GtrmaiUtchen Mu$euM$ (which is to appear monthly),
contains, among other articles of antiquarian interest,
Dotes on the earliest known MS. of the Nuremburg
Chronicle, and on an early MS. of the Nibelungen ;
notice of an original Letter of Pirkheimer, relative to
the wars of Maximilian against the Swiss ; and also of
a remarkable, and hitherto unknown, old copper-plate
engraving on six sheets by an unknown artist, apparently
of the school of Martin Schon, illustrative of that cam>
paign ; and an account of an early miscellaneous MS.,
in which is a List of Masons' Marks. The second is
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DeuUehe Mythologie und Sitienkundct and numbers
among its contributors, W. Grimm, Nordnagel, Kuhn,
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their talents to the study of popular antiquities. We
hope shortly to find room for a specimen or two of the
'* Old World" stories and customs which they have
here recorded.
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we have received No. XII., which extends from Ber-
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O. T. (Reading). We are kappif to be akie to assmre emr Cor-
respondent that that venerable antiquary John Britton is stitt
among us^ and, when ure last saw him, €U hale as his beU JHessds
amid wish.
H. H. R. wiUftmd in our earlier volumes several Notes ms tke
subject qf his Query.
W. M. The line —
•• Incidis In Scyllam cnplens vitare Charybdlm,**
is from lib. v. 301. qf the Alex&ndrcis qf Phi/ip Guaitier: aatissoi
Tempora, but
•• Omnia mutantur, nos et mutamur in lllis»**
isfiromapoem by Matthew Borbonius in the DelitlsB Postarum.
Oermanorum, vol.i. p. 683.
H. C. C. Will this Correspondent favour us with his address im
exchange for that f/NEweoRY, xohich we have, and who wishes to
correspond with him f
J. O. May we insert the interesting Reply sent by this Cor*
respondent, or is it his wish that we should forward Uf
W. S. F. will find an interesting article on the loss ofOray^s
original MS. Jrom La Grande Chartreuse, in our First Volume,
p. 41G.
J. M. O. Is not the translation of The Ode. spoken qf in the
article alludfd to as hring by James Hay Beattie, the one respect-
ing which our Querist inquires f
F. M. (A Bfaltese). 1. We should recommend our Corre^tom*
dent to make his gun cotton with the nitrate of potash and sulphuric
acid, as originally recommended iis ** N. it Q.,** taking care Asii
they are both thorovffUtf incorporated before the mddttum of tke
cotton. Much vesatton qften occurs in consequence qfthe various
strengths of nitric acid. But the gun cotton can now be procured
at some qfthi' photographic houses quite as reasonaUlf as ii mm be
prepared. 2. Acetic acid is added to the pyrogallic acid to prevent
its too rapid deeompositum, and tofaeHOate the more ea^Jhwing
qf the fluid over the plate. But the more acetic acid is tued^ the
more slow will be the develttpment. S. Is not the ertuMmg qf the
sUbumen the result qf the climate qf Malta f
F. ( Manchester). JVe do not think that you earn do better than
adopt strictly the mode qf obtaining positives recommended by Mr.
Pollock, and which we printed some time sinee ; or that pursued
by Dr. Diamond, which we have m type^ but have been compelled
to postpone until next week.
A. B. C. Having ourselves practised the Paper Process, ac-
cording to the directions ginen in our first Number far the present
year {with the correction of using the gallic add, which^ as stated
in a subsequent Number, was hi/ accident omitted)^ we would ad-
vise our Correspondent to adhere strictly to those rules rather than
any other with which we have since become acquainted. We are
qf opinion that ss^fficient care is very rarely used in the preparation
qf the iodized paper, and upon which all Juture success must de-
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CONTENTS.
The Groanfng-board, a Story of the Days of Cbarlef 11.,
by Dr. E. F. Rimbault - - - - -
The Etymology of the Word " Awkward '* - -
inedited Poem — "The Deceitfulness of Love," by
Chris. Roberts > - . . .
JBale MSS., referred to in Tanner's " Bibliotheca
Britannico-Hibernica," by Sir F. Madden
Charles Fox and Gibbon .....
Samuel Williams > • . • . .
Shakspeare Correspondence, by Samuel Hickson, &c. .
JfiNOR Notes : — Doings of the Calf's Head Club —
Epitaph by Wordsworth — Tailor's ** Cabbage " —
Misquotations — The Ducking Stool — Watch-paper
Inscription .....
Page
309
310
. 311
311
312
312
313
- 315
Queries : —
Birthplace of Gen. Monk, by F. Kyffin Lenthall - 316
Minor Queries: — Harmony of the Four Gospels —
The Noel Family — Council of Trent — Roman
Catholic Patriarchs— The "Temple Lands" in
Scotland — Cottons of Fowey — Draught or Draft
of Air — Admiral Sir Thomas Tyddeman — Pedigree
Indices — Apparition of the White Lady — Rundle-
'fitone— Tottenham — Duval Family — Noses of the
Descendants of John of Gaunt — General Wall —
John 1 Daniel and Sir Ambrose Nicholas Salter —
-Edward Bysshe — President Bradshaw and John
MUton 316
AiiNOR Queries with Answers : — Ket the Tanner ~-
"Namby-pamby" - - - - - 318
ISbplies : —
Editions of Books of Common Prayer, by the Rev.
Thomas Lathbury, Sec. - . - - - 818
The Crescent, by J. W. Thomas - - - - 319
'Seals of the Borough of Great Yarmouth - - 321
Moon Superstitions, by J. N. Radcliffe and .G. William
Skyiing 821
Xatin Riddle, by the Rev. Robert Gibbings - - 322
" Hurrah 1 " by Sir J. E. Tennent and J. Sansom - 323
.Photographic Correspondence : — Process for Print-
ing on Albumenized Paper - - - - 324
Hbplibs to Minor Queries : —'Anderson's Royal Ge-
nealogies—Thomas Wright of Durham — "Weather
Predictions — Bacon's Essays : BuUaces — Nixon the
Prophet — Parochial Libraries —*• Ampers and," &c.
The Arms of De Sissonne — St. Patrick's Purga-
tory—Sir ; George Carr — Gravestone Inscription —
•"A Tub to the Whale "— Hour-glasses in Pulpits
— Slow.worm Superstition — Sincere— Books chained
to Desks in Churches: Seven Candlesticks — D.
Ferrand: French Patois — Wood of the Cross —
Ladies' Arms in a Lozenge— Burial in unconsecrated
Ground — Table-turning — " Well's a fret " — Tenet
for Tenent - - - - - - 326
Miscellaneous : —
Books and Odd Volumes wanted
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisements . -
- 330
- 330
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ToL. VIII.— ISTo. 205.
THE GROANING-BOARD, A STORT OF THE DATS 0^
CHARLES II.
The English public has ever been distinguished
by an enormous amount of gullibility.
" Ha ha, ha ha 1 this world doth pass
Most merrily I'll be sworn ;
For many an honest Indian ass
Goes for an unicorn.** ,
So sung old Thomas Weelkes in the year 1608,
and so echo we in the year 1853 ! What
with "spirit-rapping," "table-moving," "Chelsea
ghosts,^* " Aztec children," &c., we shall socm, if
we go on at the same rate, get the reputation of
being past all cure.
In looking over, the other day, a volume in the
Museum, marked MS. Sloane 958., I noticed the
following hand-bill pasted on the first page :
** At the sign of the Wool-sack, in Newgate Market,
is to be seen a strange and wonderful thing, which is an
elm boardy being touched with a hot iron, doth express
itself as if it were a man dying with groans, and trem-
bling, to the great admiration of all the hearers. It
hath been presented before the king and his nobles,
and hath given great satisfaction. Vivat Rex"
At the top of the bill is the king's arms, and the
letters C. B., and in an old hand is written the
date 1682. On the same page is an autograph of
the original possessor of the volume, " Ex libris
Jo. Coniers, Londini, pharmacopol, 1673."
In turning to Malcolm (^Anecdotes of the Mart"
ners and Customs of London^ 4to. 1811, p. 427.),
we find the following elucidation of this mysterious
exhibition :
« One of the most curious and ingenious amuse-
meuts ever offered to the publick ear was contrived in
the year 1682, when an elm plank was exhibited to the
king and the credulous of London, which being touched
by a hot iron, invariably produced a sound resembling
deep groans. This sensible, and very irritable board,
received numbers of noble visitors ; and other boards,
sympathising with ^heir afflicted brother, demonstrated
^ow much affected Uiey might be by similar means,
•jilie publicans in different parts of the city immediately
applied ignited metal to all the woodwork of their
houses, in hopes of iindin|^ «ensitiv? timber; but X do
310
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pSTo. 205.
not perceive any were so successful as the landlord of
the Bowman Tavern in Drury Lwie, who had a mantle
tree so extremely prompt and loud in its responses,
that the sagacious observers were nearly unanimous in '
pronoundog it part of the same trunk which had
afforded the original plank.**
The following paragraph is also given by Mal-
colm from the Loyal London Mtrcwry^ Oct. 4,
*< Some persons being this week drinkiag at the ,
Qaeen^ Arms Tavern, in St MartinVle- Grand, in the
kitchen, and having laid the fire-fork in the fire to light
their pipes, accidentally fell a discoursing of the oroan-
mg-board, and what might be the cause of it. One in
the eompany, having the fork in hia band to light his
pipe, [would needs make trial of a long dresser that
stood there, which, upon the first touch, made a great
noise and groaning, more than ever the board that was
showed did ; and then they touched it three or four
times, and found it far beyond the other. They all
having seen it, the house is almost filled with specta-
tors day and night, and any eorapany calling for a glass
of wine may see it; which, in the judgment of all, is
fiur louder, and makes a longer groan than the other ;
which to report, unless seen, would seem incredible.**
Amonp: the Bagford Ballads in the Museum
(three vols., under the preas-mark 648. m.) is pre-
Berved the following singular broadside upon the
subject, which is now reprinted for Hie first time :
^*A 17KW SONG, OK THS STaAKOS AITD WOKDTRTVh
GaOA WING -BOARD.
" What fate inspir*d thee with groans.
To fill phanattck brains?
What is't thou sadly thus bemoans,
In thy prophetick strains ?
«« Art thou the ghost of William Pryn,
Or some old politician ?
Who, long tormented for his sin.
Laments his sad condition ?
« Or must we now believe in thee,
The old cheat transmigration ?
And that tliou oovr art come to be
A call to reformation ?
*^ Tlie giddy vulgar to thee run,
Amaz'd with fear and wonder;
Some dare affirm, that hear thee groan^
Thy noise is petty thunder.
" One says and swears, you do foretell
A change in Church and State ;
Another says, you like not well
Your master Stephen^ s fate.*
** Some say you groan much like a whigg.
Or rather like a ranter j
Some say as loud, and full as big.
As Conventicle Canter.
* This was Stephen College, a joiner by trade, but a
man of an active and violent spirit, who, making him-
self conspicuous by his opposition to the Court, ob-
tained the name of the Protestant joiner. His hte is
well known. *
** Some say you do petition,
And think you represent
The woe and sad condition
Of Old Hump Parliament,
" The wisest say you are a cheat ;
Another politician
Says, 'tis a misery as great
And true as Hatfield » vision.*
*^ Some say, 'tis a new evidence^
Or witness of the plot ;
And can discover many things.
Which are the Lord knows what.
'* And lest you should the plot disgrace.
For wanting of a name,
Nmrrathe Bomrd henceforth we'll place
In registers of fiune.
•• London : Printed for T. P. in the year 1682."
The extraordinsry and lone-lived popoUrity
<rf the " groaning-board " is fuUy evinced by the
number of cotemporary allusions: a few will
suffice.
Mrs. Mary Astell, in her Essay in Defence of
the Female SeXj 1696, speaking of the character of
a " coffee-house politician," observes :
" He is a mighty listener after prodigies : and never
hears of a whale or a comet, but he apprehends some
sudden revolution in the state, and looks upon a
groaning-hoard, or a speaking-head, as forenumers of
the day of Judgment.**
Swift, in his Tale of a Tub, written in the fol-
lowing year (1697), says of Jack :
<* He wore a large plaister of artifieiall oaustioks
on his stomach, with the fervor of which he would set
himself a groaning like the famous hoard upon appli-
cation of a red-hot iron.*'
Steele, in the 44th number of the Tader^ speak-
ing of Powell, the " puppet showman^** Bays :
** He has not brains enough to make even wood
speak as it ought to do i and I, that have heard the
groaning-board, can despise all that his puppets diall be
able to speak as long as they live.**
So much for the ^ story" of the groamng'hoard.
As to "how it was done," we leave the matter
open to the reader's sagacity.
THB ETYMOLOGT OF THE WOBP "AWKWARD."
Most persons who have given their attention to
the fonnation of words, and have employed their
leisure in endeavouring to trace them to their
source, must have remarked that there are many
words in the English language which show on the
* Martha Hatfield, a child twelve years old in Sept.
1 652, who pretended to have visions " concerning Christ,
faith, and other subjects.** She was a second edition of
the " holy maid of Kent.**
Oct. 1. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
311
part of learned philologists, the compilers of dic-
tionaries, either a strange deficiency in reading, or
a want of acquaintance with the older tongues:
or perhaps, if we must find an excuse for them, a
habit of " nodding."
The word awkward is one of these. Skinner*s
account is as follows :
** Ineptus, &fjul)apurr^s, prapposteru^ ab A.-S. seperd,
perversus ; hoc ab « priep. loquelari negativa privativa,
et weardf versus."
Johnson follows Skinner, interpreting awkward
in the same way, and with the same derivation ;
but unfortunately he had met with the little word
awk, and, not caring to inquire into the origin of
it, as it seemed so plain, he explains it as '* a bar-
barous contraction of awkward,** giving the follow-
ing example from L'Estrange :
" We have heard as arrant jingling in the pulpits as
the steeples ; and the professors ringing as awk as the
bells to give notice of the conflagration.**
Xow the real state of Ihe case is, that just as
forxoard and backward are correlatives, so also are
toward and awkward. We speak of a toward child
as one who is quick and ready and apt ; while, by
an awkward one, we mean precisely the contrary.
By the former we imply a disposition or readiness
to press on to the mark ; by the latter, that which
is averse to it, and fails of the right way. Parallel
instances, though of course not corresponding in
meaning, are found in the Latin adverstu^ re*
versus, inversus, aversus.
The term awkward is compounded of the two
A.-S. words atoeg <»* aw6^ (which is itself made
up of a, from, and weeg, a way), meaning away,
out: "auferendi vim habet," says Bosworth, of
which we have an instance in aweg weorpan, to
throw away ; and weard, toward, as in hamweard,
homewards. We thus have the correlatives to-
weard and aweg-tveard, with the same termination,
but with prefixes of exactly opposite meanings.
In the latter word, the prefix would naturally
come to be pronounced as one syllable, and the g
as naturally converted into k.
The propriety of the use of the word awkward
hy Shakspeare, in the Second Part of Henry VL,
Act III. Sc. 2., is thus rendered apparent :
** And twice by awkward wind from England's bank,
Drove back again,** &c.,
t. ff. untoward wind, or contrary : an epithet which
editors, while they thought it required an apology,
have been unable to explain rightly.
With r^ard to the word awk, I can only say
that it is one of very unfrequent occurrence ; I
have met with it but once m the coarse of my
own readings so that I am unable to confirm my
view as fully as I could wish ; still, that one in-
stance seems, as fari» it goes, sa^sfactory enough :
it occurs in Golding*s translation of Ovid*s Metam.,
London, 1567, f<A. 177. p. 2. :
" She sprincled us with bitter jewce of unoouth herbes,
and strake
The awk end of her charmed rod uppon our heads,
and spake
Woordes to the former contrarie," &c.
The awk end here is, of course, the wrong end,
that which was not towards them.
Perhaps some of the readers of " N. & Q." may
have met with other instances of the usage of tiie
word. It does not occur in Chaucer nor (I am
pretty sure) in Gower. H. C. K.
HfEBTTED POSM. — *^ THE BECEITFULinBSS OP liOVB."
The fdlowing lines, written about 1600, are, I
think, well worthy of preservation in your columns.
I believe they have never been published ; but if
any of your correspondents should have met with
them, and can inform me of the author, I shall feel
much obliged. Chris. Bobbsts.
Bradford, Yorkshire.
Deceitftdness of Love,
Go, sit by the summer sea.
Thou, whom scorn wasteth^
And let thy musing be
Where tne flood hasteth.
Mark how o'er ocean's breast
Bolls the hoar billow's crest ;
Such is his heart's unrest
Who of love tasteth.
Griev'st thou that hearts should change?
Lo ! where life reigneth.
Or the free sight doth range,
What long remaineth ?
Spring with her fiow'rs doth die »
Fast fades the gilded sk^ ;
And the full moon on high
Ceaselessly waneth.
Smile, then, ye sage and wise ;
And if love sever
Bonds which thy soul dotili love.
Such does it ever !
Deep as the rolling seas,
Soft as the twilight breeze.
But of more than these
Boast could it never I
BALE MSS., REFERRED TO IN TANNER's " BIBLIO-
THECA BRITANNICO-HIBBBNICA."
Most persons who consult this laborious and
useful work will probably have been struck -and
puzzled by the frequent occurrence of two refer-
ences given by the Bishop as his authoriti^
namely, "^ MS. Bal. Sloan." and <<MS. Bal. Glynn.^
312
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[No- 205.
To answer, therefore (by anticipation), a Query
Tery likely to be made on this subject, I have to
state, that by " MS. Bal. Sloan." Tanner refers to
a manuscript work in two volumes, in Bale*s hand-
writing, formerly in Sir Hans Sloane*s collection,
and numbered 287, but presented by him to the
Bodleian Library ; as appears by a letter from
Hearne to Baker (in MS. Harl. 7031. f. 142.),
dated August 6, 1715, in which he writes :
" We have BaWs accounts of the Carmdita, in two
volumes, being not long since given to our public
library by Dr. Sloane.**
In the original MS. Sloane Catalogue, the work
was thus entered : Joannes BalcBus de Sanctis ei
iUustribus viris Ordinis Carmelitarum, et eorum
Scriptis: Joannis Balai Annales Carmelitarum.
Another volume, partly, if not wholly, in Bale's
handwriting, relative to the Carmelite Order,
existed formerly in the Cottonian Library, under
the press-mark Otho, D. iv., but was almost en-
tirely destroyed in the fire which took place in
1731.
By " MS. Bal. Glynn.," or (as more fully re-
ferred to under "Adamus Carthusiensis**) "MS.
Bale penes D. Will. Glynn.," Tanner undoubtedly
means a printed copy of Bale's Scriptorum Illus^
irium Majoris Brytannice Catalogus^ with marginal
notes in manuscript (probably by Bale himself)
which was preserved in the library of Sir William
Glynne, Bart., of Ambrosden. I learn this from
Tanner's original Memoranda for his Bihliotheqa^
preserved in the Additional MSS. 6261. 6262.,
JBritish Museum ; in the former of which, ff. 122-*-
124., is a transcript of the "MS. notse in margine
Balei, penes D. Will. Glynne." The Glynne MSS.
are described in the Catt. MSS.AnglicB, fol. 1697,
vol. ii. pt. 1. p. 49. ; but the copy of Bale, here
mentioned, is not included among them. These
MSS. are said to be preserved at present in the
library of Christ Church College, Oxford ; and it
is somewhat singular, that no account of the
MSS. in this college should have been printed,
either in the folio Catalogue of 1697, or in the
valuable Catalogue of the MSS. in the college
libraries recently published. Perhaps some of the
correspondents or " N. & Q." may communicate
information on this head. F. Madden.
CHARLES FOX AND GIBBON.
The following is taken from the fly-leaves of my
copy of Gibbons jRcwwe, 1st vol. 1779, 8vo. :
** The following anecdote and verses were written by
the late Charles James Fox in the first volume of his
Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
** The author of thb work declared publicly at
Brookes's (a gaming-house in St. James* Street), upon
the delivery of the Spanish Rescript in June, 1779, that
there was no salvation for this country unless six of the
heads of the cabinet council were out off and laid upon
the tables of both houses of parliament as examples;
and in less than a fortnight he accepted a place under
the same cabinet council.
** On the Author's Prokotion to thb Board of
Trade in 1779.
By the Right Hon. C. J. Fox.
" King George in a fright
Lest Gibbon should write
The story of Britain's disgrace,
Thought no means more sure
His pen to secure
Than to give the historian a place.
'* But his caution is vain,
*Tis the curse of his reign
That his projects should never succeed ;
Tho* he wrote not a line,
Yet a cause of decline
In our author's example we read.
** His book well describes
How corruption and bribes
O'erthrew the great empire of Rome;
And his writings declare
A degeneracy there,
Which his conduct exhibits at home."
G. M. B.
SAJtfUEL WIIXIAMS.
The obituary of the past week records the death
of Samuel Williams, a self-taught artist^ whose
pencil and graver have illustrated very many of
the most popular works during the last forty years,
and to whose productions the modem school of
book- illustrations owes its chief force and charac-
ter. Samuel Williams was born Feb. 23, 1788, at
Colchester in Essex ; and during his very earliest
vears, his self-taught powers were remarkable, as
he could draw or copy with the greatest ease any-
thing he saw ; and he would get up at early dawn,
before the other members of the family were stir-
ring, to follow the bent of his genius. His boyish
talents attracted much notice, and, had he not
been very diflSdent, would have brought him be-
fore the world as a painter. In 1802, he was ap-
prenticed to Mr. J. Marsden, a printer in Col-
chester, and thenceforward his pencil was destined
to be employed in illustrating books. Whilst yet
a lad, he etched on copper a frontispiece to a bro-
chure entitled the UoggeshaU Volunteers; and
this was a remarkable production, as he had never
seen etching or engraving on copper; and he
about the same time taught himself engraving on
wood, executing numerous litUe cuts for Mr.
Marsden: amongst others, a frontispiece to a
History of Colchester, So much was his talent
seen by parties calling at his employer's, that Mr.
Crosby, a publisher of some note in his day, pro-
mised tha^ when hia apprenticeship ended, he
Oct. 1. 1853.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
Bbould drair and engTEive fi
tory i and thia promise nas fnithfullj performed,
and a seriea of three hundred cuts given to him
immediately. Besides these, he executed nume-
rous commissions for Mozley, Durton and Harvey, shakspearb cobbesponsbhce.
Ariiii'a Mrf Mr,ganm! .ni ote work, j in all q, „ p , ,, „, Smtd Port 0/ ffmry IT.
wh.eh. Ton. natural Mmgandviuoiou. draw- _n, n^^a „/ PM^ff.-l ka». read »iib
"*^"f!^.iu '"?-^^'?"'^J 5^- 1 ■ , much pleasure jour very temperate remarks on
In 1809 h,,,,.t,aion<lon for. .hort lime, aiid ,,,3 ,,', eootjltntion, Jf ,o„e of jour corre-
ietutnedtoColehe.ler,andres,dea he,-el,lil819, o„jeul„ and I tru.t tlat, afar Jo gentl, a
wheuLe letlled m London. In ISSJ, Mr. C. ,Jt„k. ,„^ eertuioly tie most goodtnatured
Wh.ttmgbao, publiihed an eddion of Scb,,,,. Editor ll.ing, all will heoc.forih go - merry aa a
Crtnoe the diu.tratjon, to whick were drawn and „^i jj|... i„ong.t the Ere that I hare
engraved b, the snbjeet of Ih,. noticei and the piek.d'np ,;nce my Srit aequainlance with
freedom of bnndling, as compared wjth ootem- S N. S Q,-' is that profound troth,
porarj works, was conspicuous. Alter these, Trim- . ,
mer's A'atarai ffiston/, published bj Whittingham; '"''^ = '^'J f'°°^ '<"'^ ""^^ "* '"" '"= '
the illustrations to Wiffin'g GarcUasao de la Vega ; but I must say I think it would be a yerj dull
and other works, showed his talentd aa a designer one if we all thought alike ; as " N. & Q." would
as well as engraver. be a very dull book if it were not seasoned with
In 1823, William Hone started his Enery-Day differences of opinion, and its pages diversified
Sook, employing Mr. Williaois to make the draw- with discussions and ingenious argument. And
ings for the"Months," andotheriIIustra.tions; and what can be more agreeable, when, like an anU
the peculiar style, like pen-and-ink sketches, at- mated conversation, it is conducted with faimesa
• tracted much notice, the freedom and ease of these and good temper P
drawings being greatly admired ; and some of our However, now we are to start fair again ; and
present artists confess to having been first taught to begin with a difference, I must presume to
fay copying the free off-hand sketches in Hone's question a decision of your own which I would
Every-Day Book. A second volume followed in fain see recalled, I believe with you that Mb.
1846, and the Table Book in 1847; in 1848 the Collibb's Notes and Emendations gives the true
Olio was published, and afternards the Parterre ; reading of the passage in Henri/ V., " on a table
both works remarkable for their spirited iliuslra- of green frieze," and I, moreover, think that
tions. Several of the engravinna to the Loudon Theobald's conjecture " and 'a babbled o' green
Stage, 1847, displayed great variety of expression fields," was worthy of any poet. Theobald was
in die figures and faces. Hewitt's Rural Life of engaged in the laborious work of minute verbal
Englaad, Selby's Forest Trees, Thomson's Sea- correction, and necessarily took an isolated view
»ons (the edition published by Bogue), Miller's of particular passages. Ii^esenting the difficulty
Pictures of Counlri/ Life, oil drawn and engraved which this passage did, his suggestion was a happy
by him, exhibit exquisite rural " bits," in which, and poetical thought. But wnen you say that the
like Bewick, Samuel Williams could express with scholiast excelled hie author, we must take an-
the graver the touch of bis pencil, thus far excel- other view of the case. The question is not as to
ling his cotemporaries. The Memorial of the which passage is the most poetical, but which is
Martyrs was the last work on which be exercised most in place ; which was the idea most natural to
his double skill. Of works not drawn by himself, be expressed. And in this I think you will admit
WifSn'j Tasso shows some of his best effi>rts ; but that Sbakspeare's judgment must be deferred to,
as for years past he had been engaged on most of the and that taiing the character of FalstafT, together
best works of the day, it is impossible to specify all. ivilh the other circumstances detailed of his death, it
Had he devoted bis time to painting, which the is not natural that he should be represented as
constant employment with pencil and graver " babbling o' green fields."
prevented, he would have taken high rank as a You are aware that Fielding, in his Journey
painter of rural life, as his pictures of " Sketching from this World to the next, met with Shakspeare,
a Conn try man," and "Interior of a Blacksmith's who, in answer to a similar question to that put
Shop," exhibited in the Royal Academy when at to G(>the, gave a like answer to the one you re-
Somerset House, testify, as they are marked by port. This arises in a great measure from the
perfect drawing and admirable expression. Some imperfection of language ; the most careful writers
miniatures on ivory, painted in his veir youthful at times express themselves obscurely. But with
days, arc marvellous for close manipulation and regard to Ben Jonson, I should say that, though
correct likeness. After a long and painful ill- neither a mean nor an unfriendly critic, he was
ness, borne with great fortitude, Mr. Williams ex- certainly a prejudiced one. He saw Shakspeare
pired on the I9th September, his wife having pre- from the conventional- classic point of view, and
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[Na 206.
would doubtless have *^ blotted" much that we
should have regretted submitting to his judgment.
Yet, after all, the anecdote is not according to the
fact. Shakspeare did *^ blot ** thousands of lines,
probably many more than Ben Jonson himself
ever did ; and* of this we have the best evidence
in whole plays almost re-written. Even in the
single instance rare Ben gives of Shakspeare's in-
correctness, published many years after the Iatter*s
death, the memory or hearing of the former either
were at fault, or the line had been " blotted.**
Absolute perfection is, of course, not to be
looked for ; there is no such thing in reference to
human affairs, unless it be in constant and unob-
structed growth and development. This is ex-
hibited la Shakspeare's writing to a degree shown
by no other writer. The shortcomings of Shak-
speare are most evident when he is compared with
lumself, — the earlier with the later writer. But
take his earliest work, so far as can be ascertained,
in its earliest form, and the literature of the age
cannot produce its equal. Samubi* Hickson.
" I kne\7 there iras but one way, for bis nose was as
sharp as a pen, and *a babbled of green fields." —
" I knew there was but one way, for his nose was as
sharp as a pen on a table of green frieze." — Shakipeare
correeteri.
Some of the alterations in the manuscript cor-
rections in Mr. Collier*s old edition of Shak-
8peare*s plays I a^ee with, but certainly not in
this one, since we lose much and gain nothing by
it. Shakspeare, in drawing a character such as
Falstaff, loaded with every vice that flesh is heir
to, and yet making him a favourite with the au-
dience, must have been most anxious respecting
his death, and therefore awakened our sympathy
in his favour. In ushering in the account of the
death-bed scene, he makes Bardolph say :
" Would I were with him, wheresome*er he is, either
in heaven or in hell.**
This expression Burns the poet considered the
highest mark of regard that one man could pay to
another, for in his poem on a departed friend, he
says:
" With such as he, where'er he be^
May I be saved, or daran*d,**
Mrs. Quickly, in describing the scene, says :
**He*8 in Arthur's (Abraham's) bosom, if ever man
went to Arthur's bosom. 'A made a finer end, and went
away, an it had been any christom child ; for after I
saw him fumble with the eheets, and play with flowers,
and smile upon his finger's ends, I knew there was but
one way ; for his nose was as sharp as a pen» and *a
hobbled of green Jieldt,"
Mrs. Quickly, aftw describing the outward signs
of dec^ and second childishness, teUs us he 2^5-
bied. Shakspeare, as the only means of gaining
our forgiveness, makes him die in repentance for
his sins, and seems to have had the Twenty-third
Psalm in his mind, where David puts his trust in
Grod*s grace, when amongst other passages it says :
" He maketh me lie down in green pastures^^ and
further on, "Yea, though I walk through the
valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil,
for thou art with me.** I have endeavoured to
give you a reason why I prefer the old reading of
the text : if any of your correspondents will give
a better for the new^ I shall be ^lad to see it, as I
am convinced the more we examine into the works
of our wonderful bard, the more we shall be con-
vinced of his superhuman genius ; we are, there-
fore, all indebted to Mb. Gollisb for his searching
investigations, as they set us in a reflective mood.
, I ■ J. B»
Your just remarks on Theobald*s *^ *a babbled
of green fields *' recalls to me a note which I find
appended to the passage in the margin of my
Shakspeare,
** **A babbled of green fields, t.e. singing anatohes of
the 23rd Psalm :
' In pastures green He feedeth me,* &o.
< And though I walk e'en at death's door,* &e.
n '*
This note I jotted down in my schodboy days,
and thirty years* experience at the beds of the
dying only convinces me of its correctness.
Again and again have I heard the same sweet
strains hymned from the lips of the dying, 9xA
soothing with hope the sinking spirit, ay, even of
great and grievous sinners. Indeed, I have oome
to stamp it as a sure mark of impending death,
and have said with the dame, " I knew there was
but one way, for *a babbled of ^reen fields;"
thouffh I trust with diflerent doctrine than her*s,
viz. tkat reliffion is the business of none but the
dying, and thence, that to talk of rel4;ion is a
sure sign of approaching death.
When Falstaff " babbled of green fields,** he
was labouring under no ^' calenture.** His heart
was far away amid the early fresh pure scenes ctf
childhood, and he was babbling forth snatches of
hymns and holy songs, learned on his mother's
knee, and now called up, in his hour of need, to
cheer, as best they miffht, his parting spirit.
Strange is it that Theobald, when he suggested so
happy an emendation, missed half its beauty and
its real bearing.
Throughout the whole passage it is evident that
Falstaff was ejaculating scraps of long forgotten
hymns and Scripture texts, which were utterly
incomprehensible to those about him. '^ 'A bab-
bled of green fields,**— *^ he cried out of sack,**—-
" and of women,** — " incarnate,** — " whore of
Babylon,** — all suggest holy ejaculations, per-
verted by the ignorance of the godless bystanders.
In all Shakspeare there is hardly to lie found a
more touching scene, <» one more true to nature ;
NOTES AKD QUEBIE&
3Lfi
it is most graphic and characteristic. The lone-
linesa of the during sinner, with none to stund bj
he could recall from the lessons of Iii9 childhood,
"He shall feed me in a green pasture," &c. ; — then —
ere he could reach those assuring words, " Tea,
tJiougi I walk through the yallcj of the shadow
of death, I will fear no evil, for Thou art with me.
Thy rod and Thj staff comfort me," the miser-
able consciousness that it is all too late, " So 'a
cried outGod,God, God;"— then— the utter wai^
of religious sympathy in the bystanders, Sym,
Quickly, BardolphjBoy, in their misinterpretations,
luid perverse commentaries on his ejaculations,
just such as we might expect from hearts gorged to
the full with vice and sensuality; — then^the re-
deeming touch of tenderness in the Dame, beaming
through all her benighted efforts to cheer, in her
own way (awful to think on, the only way known
to her), the last hours of her dear old roysterer,
"Now I, to '•comfort him, bid him 'a should not
think of God, I hoped there was no need to
trouble himself with any such thoughts yet ; " and
the unilying fondness with which she upholds his
memory, and will not brook a word of ribaldry, or
what she deems slander, gainst it, all eridenciDg
that —
" The worst of nn had left hei wonua slllL"
Surely £
parties ii
•. characteristic of all the
be ibund in Shakspeare.
^inor fioUe.
Doings of the Cidft Htad Club. —- In an old
newspaper called The Weeklt/ Oracle, of Feb. 1,
173S, is the following curious paragraph :
"Thursday (Jan.29) la the eteolDg a diiorder of
a vei; paTticuUr nature happened in SuSblk Street;
tis said lliat seieral young gentlemen of distinction
having met at a houae there, calling themselres the
Calf's Head Club; and aboat seven a'clock a baofire
being Ut up before the door, just wbea it was in its
height, they brought ■ cair's head to the winilow
dresaed in a napkia-cap. and after some huiias, threv
it into the fire. The mob were entertiuDed with stroog
beer, and tbr same time hallooed as well as the best ;
but taking a disgust at some healths which were pro-
posed, grew so aDtiageou<i that they broke all the
windows, forced rhemaelves inn> the house, and would
probably have pulled it down, had not the guards been
sent to prevent further mischief. The damage is com-
puted at some hundred pounds- The guards were
posted aTl nigbt in the street tot the security of the
neighbouriiood."
£. G. Ballabd.
Epib^h by Wordsworth. — There is a beautiful
epitaph by VYordsworth in Sprawle; Church,
Worcestershire, to the wife of G. C. Verngn, Esq.,
}f Uanbury. Wordsworth has made the follow-
ing slight alterations to it, in his published poems :
[ quote from the one-volume 6vo. edition of
Moxon (1845). The first two lines are not on tke
tablet. The words within brackets are tiioae
which appear in the original epitapk:---
• By a hlai huiband guided, Mart/ eamt
Fiem iuare$l tindrid, VeroMi itr thv mouk ;
She came, though meek of soul, in seemly prida
Of happioess and hope, a youthful bride.
O dread reverse i If aught 6e so which provai
That God will chasten whom he deailj loves.
Faith bore her up through pains in mercy given.
And troubles tAat [which] were each a step to Heaven.
Two habea were laid In earth before she died ;
A third now stumliers at the mother's side;
Its sister-twin supviies, whose smiles afford [impart]
A trembling solace to Aer widow'd lord [her father's
heart.]
Reader I if to thy bosom cling the pam
Of recent sorrow combated in vata ;
Or if thy cherish'd grief have faii'd to thwart
lime, still intent on bis insidious part.
Lulling the mouruet^ best good thougliU asleep,
Pilfaring regrets we would, but cannot, keep ;
Bear with Aim [those] — judge him [those] gently
Hii Qtbeir] bitter loss by IhU numorial [;monumenUl]
-And pray that in hii £tbeir] faithful breast die gnM
Of resignation find a hallow'd place."
Tailor') " Caibage."—
" The term cabbage, by which tailors desigoata tha
cribbed pieces of eiMb, is said tn be derived Irom an
old wori^ ' cablesh,' i. e, wind-rallen wood And tbeut
'hell,' where they store the cabbage, from 'bdaa,' to
hide."
Clbbicdb RusTicira.
3tuqw)tetiotu. — 1. Sallnst's memorable de-
finition of friendship, as put into the month of
Catiline (cap. 20.J, is quoted in the "Translstkm
of Aristotle's Ethics," in Bohn's Ciauical liitTary
(p. 241. note A), as the saying of Terence.
3. The Critic of September lit quotes tke
"Viximns insignes inter ntramque Jttcetn" of
Properthis (lib. ir. 1 1. 46.) as from Martial.
3. In Prater's Magazine for October 185%
]>. 461., we find " Quem patente porti," ke. quoted
Irom Terence instead of Catullus, as it is correctlj
in-tke number for May, 1653.
P. J. P. GAMTIliOlI, B.A,
The DMciing Stool.— la tha Museum at Scw-
horough, one of these eogineB is preserved. It
m said that there are persons still living in the
town, who remranber its services being employed
when it stood upon the old pieir. It is a sub-
stastial um-chAui of oak ; vith ea uqu bar ex-
316
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 205.
tending from elbow to elbow, just as the wooden
one is placed in a child^s chair to prevent the
occupant from falling forward.
W. J. BfiBNHARD Smith.
Temple.
Watch-paper Inscription, — Akin to dial in-
scriptions are inscriptions on watch-papers used
in the days of our grandfathers, in the outer case
of the corpulent watch now a-days seldom seen.
I send you the following one, which I read many
years since ; but as I did not copy the lines, I can*
not vouch for their being strictly accurate :
" Onward perpetually moving.
These faithful hands are ever proving
How quick the hours fly by ;
This monitory pulse-like beating, "*
Seems constantly, methinks, repeating.
Swift 1 swift ! the moments fly.
Reader, be ready — for perhaps before
These hands have made one revolution more.
Life's spring is snapt — you die I "
F. JaM£S.
BISTHFLACE OF 0£N. MONK.
In a clever biographical sketch by M. Guizot,
originally published in a French periodical (the
Hevue Frangaise) under the title of "Monk,
Etude Historique," George Monk, first Duke of
Albemarle, is said to have been born on the 6th
of December, 1608, at the manor-house of Fothe-
ridge, the ancient inheritance of his family, in the
county of Devon.
This Fotheridge (otherwise Fen-the-ridge) is,
it appears, a village or hamlet situated "on the
ascendant ridge of a small hill," in the parish of
Mer ton, about four miles south-west of Torrington.
As M. 6uizot*s statement, in so far as locality is
concerned, seems open to doubt at least, if not
positive exception, I wish to elicit, and place on
record, through the medium of " N. & Q." if I
can, some farther and perhaps more decisive in-
formation on the subject. In opposition to M.
Guizot*s authority (whence derived or whatever
it might be), Lysons, in his account of Devonshire
in the Magna Britannia, positively lays the venue
of Monk*s birth in the parish of Lancros or
Landcross, near Bideford, confii*matorily alleging
that his baptism took place there on the llui of
December in the year above mentioned. *In
another account, a notice of the Restoration by
M. Kiordan de Muscry, appended to Monteth s
History of the Hehellion, he is said to have been
born in Middlesex, an assertion to which (in the
absence of all authority) little value can, of course,
be ^ven. The slightest local investigation, in-
cluding a reference to the parochial registers of
Landcross and Merton, would, however, probably
at once solve the difficulty. Buffer the known
fidelity of Lysons, and the probability of his pos-
sessing superior information on the specific point
at issue over that of M. Guizot, I should be most
reluctant to impeach the accuracy of any state-
ment of fact, however trifling or minute, emanating
from that distinguished writer. Few indeed there
are, even amongst our own historians, whose claimsk
on our faith, arising from close and accurate re-
search, intimate knowledge, clear perception, and
thorough comprehension of the events of that
most eventful period of English history, com-
mencing with the Revolution of 1640, can (as^
manifested in their published works at least) vie;:
with those of M. Guizot. With some few of the
opinions, interpretations, constructions, and com-
ments passed or placed by M. Guizot on the life-
and actions of Monk in this same "Etude His-
torique," I shall, perhaps (with all deference)^
be tempted to deal on some future occasion. An
able translation of the work, from the pen of the
present Lord Wharnclifie, appeared Jn 1838, the-
vear immediately succeeding its first publication..
The prefatory observations and valuable notes-
there introduced richly illustrate the text of M»
Guizot, whose labours, in this instance, are cer-
tainly not discreditably reflected through the-
medium of his English editor. With one expres-
sion of Lord WhamcliflTe's, however (in the note-
to which this paper chiefly refers), I take leave to
difier, wherein he hints that the question of
Monk*s birthplace can have little interest beyond
the limits of the county of Devon, clearly a palp-
able error. F. Ktffin LEiiTHAUi..
. Harmony of the Four Gospels. — Can any oV
your correspondents furnish me with the date of
the earliest Harmony, or the titles of any early-
ones ? Any information on the subject will muco
oblige Z. 4*
The Noel Family. — Will any of your readers
be kind enough to give me information on the
following point? About the commencement of
the last centuVy, a Rev. Wm. Noel lived at Rid-
lington, county of Rutland : he was rector of that
Earish about the year 1745. What relation was>
e to the Earl of Gainsborough then living ? Was-
it not one of the daughters of this clergyman who'
married a Capt. Furye ? Tbecejs...
Council of Trent — ^References are requested to
any works illustrative of the extent of knowledge
attainable by the Romish clergy, at the sittings of
this council, in (1.) ecclesiastical antiquities, (2.^
historical traditions, (3.) biblical hermeneutics.
T. J. BUCKTOK.
Birmingham.
Oct. 1. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
317
Roman Catholic Patriarchs, — Has any bishop
in the Western ilhurch held the title of patriarch
besides the Patriarch of Venice ? And what
peculiar authority or privileges has he ?
W. Faaser.
Tor-Mohun.
The " Temple Lands " in Scotland. — I am
-anxious to learn some particulars of these lands.
I recollect of reading, some time ago, that the
superiorities of them had been acquired by John
B. Gracie, Esq., W. S. Edinburgh; but whether by
purchase or otherwise, I did not ascertain. Mr.
Oracie died some four or five years ago. Perhaps
fiome correspondent will favour me with some
information on the subject. In the Justice Street
of Aberdeen, there is a tenement of houses called
Mauchlan or Mauchline Tower Court, which is
said to have belonged to the order. In the
charters of this property, themselves very ancient,
reference is made to another, of about the earliest
date at which the order began to acquire property
in Scotland. Abbedoneksis.
Cottons of Fowey,—Pi. family of " Cotton " was
settled at Fowey, in Cornwall, in the seventeenth
century. The first name of which I have any
-notice is that of Abraham Cotton, who married
at Fowey in 1597. They bore for their arms.
Sable, a chevron between three cotton-hanks. Or
a crescent for difference : crest, a Cornish chough
liolding in the beak a cotton-hank proper. William
Cotton, mayor of Plymouth in 1671, was probably
one of this family. The name is not Cornish ; and
these Cottons had without doubt migrated at no
distant period from some other part of the king-
tlom. Any information relating to the family or
its antecedents will be very gratefully received by
R. W. C.
Draught or Draft of Air, — Will some of your
•contributors inform a reader what term or word
may be correctly used to signify the phrase
•** current of air " up the flue of a chimney, or
through a room, &c. ? The word draught or draft
IS generally or universally used ; but that signifi-
cation is not to be found attached to the word
draught or draft in any dictionary accessible to
the inquirer. The word is used by many English
scientific writers, and was undoubtedly used by
Dr. Franklin to signify a current of air in the flue
^jf a chimney (see also lire's Diet.), Yet the word
cannot be found in Johnson or Ogilvie's Imp. Diet.
with this signification. The word " tirage ' is also
used by French writers with the above signifi-
cation ; and though in French dictionaries its
meaning is nearly the same, and nearly as ex-
tended as the English word draught or drafts yet
it cannot be found in the Diet de VAcad. to signify
as above.
New York.
Admiral Sir Thomas Tyddeman commanded
the squadron sent during the war with the Dutch
in the reign of Charles II. to assist in the capture
of certain richly laden merchant vessels which
had put into Bremen, but (owing to the treachery
of the Danish governor, who instead of acting in
concert with the English, as had been agreed,
opened fire upon them from the town) was unable
to effect his purpose.
After the admiral's return to England, a question
was raised as to his conduct during the engage-
ment ; and some persons went so far as to accuse
him of cowardice; but the Duke of York, who was
then in command of the fleet, entirely freed him
from such charges, and declared that he had acted
with the greatest discretion and bravery in the
whole affair.
He died soon after this, in 1668, according to
Pepys's account, of a broken heart occasioned by
the scandal that had been circulated about him,
and the slight he felt he was suffering from the
Parliament. Perhaps some of your readers can
inform me where I may meet with farther particu-
lars relating to Admiral Tyddeman. I am parti-
cularly desirous to gain information as to his
family and his descendants; also to learn upon
what occasion he was created a baronet or knight.
Captaiw.
Pedigree Indices,-— Js there any published table
of kin to Sir Thomas White, the founder of St.
John's College, Oxford, or of William of Wyke-
ham, after the plan of Stemmata Chicheliana f
Is there any Index to the Welsh and Irish
pedigrees in the British Museum? Sims' valu-
able book is confined to England.
Are there Indices to the pedigrees in the Lam-
beth Library, or the Bodleian Library at Oxford ?
The proper mode of making a search in the
Universities of Oxford and Cambridge wanted ?
Y. S. M.
Apparition of the White Lady, — I observe in
two works lately published, an allusion made to an
apparition of the "White Lady," as announcing
the death of a prince; in the one case of the
throne of Brandenburgh *, the other that of
France, t Can any of your readers point out the
origin of this popular tradition ? C. M. W.
Rundlestone, — Can any information be given of
the origin of the term ** Rundlestone," as applied
to a rock off" the Land's End ; and also to a remark-
able stone near Hessory Tor ? (Vide Mr. Bray's
Journal, Sept. 1802, in Mrs. Bray's work on the
Tamar and Tavy : and see also in the Ordnance
Maps.) J. S. R.
Garrison Library, Malta.
* In Michaud's Biographic,
f Louia XFII.f by A. De Beauchesne.
318
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 205.
ToOenJiam.— 'Whit is the deriva^on of TotteD-
hun Park, Wilts, and of Tottenham Conrt Road J
The snceat^r of the Iriih familj of that name vrtu
from Cambridgeahire. Y. S. M,
Jhaxd Family. — Is or nas there a French
familj of the name of Duval, gcntilhomiues ; and
if BO, Mn an^ relationship be traced between
Buch famll^r and the " Walls of Coolnamuck," an
ancient Anglo-Norman fkmily of the south of
Ireland, who tre considered to hare been originallj
is a bequest of ten potmdt to hig kituman, John
Millcm, which cannot be SMd to Ifc an insignificant
tegacj two centuries ago.
Can anv of your numerous corMspondenta
afford a clue to the familj connexion between
these distinguished individuals ? T. P. L.
named " Duval f "
H.
Note*- of &e Deteendaula of John of OmaU
(Tol. vii., p. 96.)- — What peculiarity have tiey ?
I am one, and I know manj othen ; but I am at
a lost to knoui the meaning of E. D.'s remark.
T. S. M.
General WaU. — Can any of your Irish corre-
tpondeuts give me any information respecting the
parentage and descent of General Richard Wall,
who was Prime Minister at the Court of Spain in
tiie year 1750 or 1753 (vide Lord Mahon) ; also
whether the General belonged to that branch of
the Walls of Coolnamuck, whose property fell
into the hands of certain English persons named
Ruddall, in whose family some Irish property still
Did the general have any siateraF la there
any monograph Ufe of the general P H.
John Darnel and Sir Amhrose Nicholas Sailer. —
Can any of the readers of " N. & Q." give any
information reapeeting one John Datiyel or
Daniel, of Clement's Inn, who translated from the
Spanish, " Jehovah. A free Pardon miih many
Oraeea therein contained, granted to all Christians
bg our most Holy and Reverent Father Ood
AJmahtie, the principal High Priest and Bishoppe
in Heaven and Earth, 1576 ; and An exceUent
Comfort to all Christians againstall ktnde of Cala-
mities, 1S76F
Also any information respecting Sir Ambrose
Nicholas Salter, eon of John Nicholas of Reding-
worth, in Huntingdonshire, to whom the first
gSiiasT OuerM to(tt) ^nSbteri,
Ket the Tanner. — Can you or any of your
correspondents give me any information about
" Ket the Tanner ; " or refer me to any book oi
books containing a history or biosrajihy of that
remvkable person F As I want the information
for a historical purpose, I hope you will give me
as lengthy an account as possible. W. J. Libtoh,
Bnntwood, Coniiton, LaneaEhlre.
[A lonji; Recount of Ket, ind liia Inmrreetion, it
given in Blomefield'i Norfolk, vol. ill pp. 399—960.,
edit IS06. Incidental no^es of him will be almi
Ibund in Aleiiuider Nevyllus' Norfoike Faria and Hair
Folyr, under Ket, Iheir accvritd Captaite. 4IO., 16S!li
Stripe's Ecdetlaitical Memoriali, vol. i. ; HeyllnS BU-
lory of the Sefomuttion , Stoir's ChroHitU; Godwml
Amalet of England ; and Shiran Turner's Modtm Sit-
(orjf d/ Enpland, under Edward VI. A Fragment of
the Requests and Demiinds of Ket and his Aeoomplioea
is prercrved in the Harleian M& 301. art. 41.]
"Namby-pamby." — What is the deriraljon of
Mombg-pam^ t Clbkicds RnsTicna.
[£Sr John Stoddart, in bis article 'Oruamar"
(£nc]f. MttTopaStiata, vol. i. p. 1 1B.), nmarks, that the
word " Namby-patiib!/ Btenis to be of moderB ftbrioatioD,
and is partieularly intended to detcribs that style of
poetry which afiects the inlanline itiDplidty of tba
nutsery. It would perhaps be difficult to trace any
part of It to a significant origin."]
01 the city
of London, 1375-6. B. B. W.
Edward Bysshe. — I shall feel particularly
obliged to any of ;youT correspondents who will
fkTonr me with a bit^aphical notice of Edward
Bysshe, author of The AH of English Poetry,
7^e British Pamasevs, &c., especially the dates
Wid places of his birth and death. Crvis.
President Bradshaio and John jifillon. — In a
pamphlet by T. W. Barlow, Esq., of the Honorable
Society of Gray's Inn, entitled Cheshire, its His-
torical and Literary Associations, published in
1852, it is stated that amone tlw memorials of
friends which President Bradshaw'a
(Vol. vii., pp. 18.91.321.)
As yon have printed various lists of Prayer-
Books, I send you the fallowing of such books as
are in my own possession. Other persons may,
perhaps, send lists of copies in private libraries :
1549. Book of Common Prayer. Whitchurch, June.
Folio.
1549. May. Folio. fWants title and krt lerf.)
1549. June. Folio. {Lul leaf wuting.)
I55K. Whiichureh. Folio.
1559. Grafton. Folio. (Title wanliof.)
IS5Z. WhitdiurdL 4to. The Gnl edition (o which
the prose EWtet and the Godly Prayers were
1567. 410. (No title.)
Oct. 1. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
319
1580. Folio.
1574. 4to. •
1578. Folio.
1551. Ordinatio Ecclesiae seu Ministerii, &c. 4to. A
Latin translation of the Book of 1 549.
1548. Ordo Distributionis Sacramenti, &c. 12mo. A
Latin translation of the Order of Com-
munion.
1571.
1574.
1596.
1604.
1605.
1605.
1614.
1615.
1618.
1616.
1621.
1622.
1616.
1625.
1628.
1631.
1633.
1633.
1633.
1634.
1636.
1636.
1637.
1637.
1639.
1640.
1637.
1713.
1660.
1660.
1660.
1690.
1661.
1662.
1662.
1662.
1662.
1662.
Liber Precum Publicarum, &c. Londini, 24mo.
8vo. •
8vo.
Book of Common Prayer. Folio. ( Royal Arms
on sides.) The first edit, of the rejgn of
James I.
Folio.
Folio.
4to.
Folio.
4to.
12 mo., bound in silver by the nuns of Little
Gidding.
4to. In Welsh.
Folio.
Liturgia Inglesia, 4to-, large paper. A Spanish
translation, made at the cost of Archbishop
Williams.
4to. The same.
La Liturgie Angloise, 4to., large paper. This
translation was also made at the charge of
Williams.
4to. The same.
Common Prayer. Folio. First edition of the
reign of Charles I. This copy was used by
Secretary Nicholas, in his family, during the
period of the Commonwealth. A clause in
his own hand is inserted in the Prayer for the
King.
12mo.
Folio.
Folio.
Edinburgh. 12 mo. (Young.)
12mo. The same.
4to.
Folio, large paper. (Royal Arms on sides.)
Folio.
4to.
12mo.
4 to.
24mo.
Edinburgh. Folio. (Young.)
8vo., large paper. (Watson's reprint of the pre-
ceding.)
Folio.
Folio. (A different edition.)
4to.
12 mo.
Folio, large paper, with the Form at the Heal-
ing.
Folio, large paper, with the Form at the Heal-
ing.
Folio, large paper.
Folio.
Folio.
Folio. Second edition of this year.
1662. Cambridge. 8vo.
1662. Cambridge. 8vo. Different edition.
1669. Folio.
1686. Folio.
1687. Folio, large paper.
1692. 8vo.
1694. Folio.
1699. 8vo.
1700. 8vo.
1703. Folio, with the Form at the Healing.
1708. 8vo., with the Form at the Healing.
1769. 12mo., with the Form at the Healing.
1715. Folio, with the Form at the Healing.
I have excluded from my list all {hose thin
editions of the Prayer Book, which were usually
bound up with Bibles, except in three instances.
The exceptions are these : — The folio, 1578 ;
Young's edition, 1633 ; and that of 1715. (gene-
rally these thin books, which have only references
to the Epistles and Gospels, are of no value what-
ever. The exceptions in this list, however, are
important books. The book of 1578 was prepared
by the Puritans, and is so altered that the word
priest does not occur in a single rubric. Toun^'s
book of 1633 is the first Prayer Book printed in
Scotland ; and the edition of 1715 is remarkable
for " The Healing," though George I. never at-
tempted to touch for the king's evu.
Should you deem this list worth printing, I will
send another of occasional forms^ now in my pos-
session, from the rei^n of Elizabeth to the acces-
sion of the House of Hanover. It may lead others
to do the same, and thus bring to light some forms
not generally known. The Prayer Books and oc-
casional forms in our public libraries are known
to most persons ; but it is important to ascertain
the existence of others in private collections.
Thomas Lathbubt.
Bristol.
I possess a copy of the Prayer Book of an edi-
tion I do not see mentioned in any of the lists
published in " N. & Q." It is small octavo, im-
printed by Bonham, Norton, and John Bill, 1627.
K.L.
THE CRESCENT.
(Vol. viii., p. 196.)
Your correspondent W.Robson, in asking to
have pointed out " the period at which the crescent
became the standard of Mahometanism," appears
to assume, what is more than doubtful, that it has
becHj and still is so. For although " modern poets
and even historians have named it as the anta-
gonistic standard to the cross,'* the crescent cannot
be considered as ^^ the standard '* of Mahometanism
— emphatically, touch less exclusively — except
in a poetical and figurative sense. That it is one
among several sfandards, I admit ; it is used by
320 KOTES AND QUERIES. [No. 205.
the Turks u kn ornament, and probably as ft Thus it sppeoTB that the crescent holds but a.
■tmbol, of their domtniou, or m connexion with lubordinate position among the ensigns at present
their rclijuion. This may have originated in the in use among the Turks. As to its histiiry, I
following fact : — Mahomet, at the introduction of have found no trace of it'in connexion with tiiat
his religion, said to his followers, who were ig- of (he Crusndes. Tasso, in Za Geraialemme Li-
t of astronomy, ." VVhen you see the new berata, mentions "the spread standards" of tha
noon, begin tha fast; when you see the moon, soldan's army "waving to the wind" ("Sparse al
celebrate the Bairam." And at this day, althoueh vento ondegjinndo ir le bandiere," caulo XX.
the precise time of the lunar changes may be st. 28.), but he makes no allusion to the cretcgnl.
Ascertained from their ephemerides, yet they never I have not access lo Michaud's Hisloire lUs Croi-
'begiu either the Ramazan, or the Bairam, till some tades, and shall be glad if your correspondent will
have testified that they baTe seen the new moon, quote the passage to which he has referred. Does
(Cantemir's HUtory of the Othman Empire, pref. Michaud speak of it as existing at that lime f
■pp. iv, V.) Bui the ancient Israelites had precisely This does not clearly appear from the reference.
the same custom in commencing their " new moons There were several sultans named Mahomet who
And appointed feasts." (See Calmel, art. " Month.") reigned in or near the age of the Crusades, two
That which may properly be called the standard of the Seljak dynasty; the first the conoueror of
of the Turks, is the ∈ai CA«ny, or Standard of Bagdad, the second cotemporary with Bald-
■the Prophet. It is of green silk*, preserved in win III., king of Jerusalem. In the Caiizmian
the treasury with the utmost care, and never dynasty, Mahomet I. waa cotemporary with
brought out of the seraglio but to be carried to Godfrey, Baldwin I., and Baldwin II. ; and Ma-
the army. This banner is supposed by the Turks hornet 11. commenced his reign about a. d. 1206.
to ensure victory, and is the sacred signal to But the conqueror of Constantmople, Mahomet II.,
which they rally. (De Tott's Memoiri, vol. ii. was of the Othman dynasty, and lived some cen-
pp. 2, 3.) turies later, the fall of that city having taken
The military ensigns which the grand seignior place a.s. 1453. To which of these eras does Mi-
bestows on the governors of provinces and other chaud ascribe the use of the creieent for the first
great men, include the following : 1, The satu'ak, time?
or standard, only distinguished from that of Ma- Afler all, perhaps, the Turkish crescent, like the
hornet by the colour, one being red and the other modern crown of Western Europe, may be but s
green. 2. The tug, or standniS consistJng of one, variation of the horn, the ancient symbol of au-
two, or three horse-tails, according^ to the dignity thority, so often alluded to in the Old Testament,
of the office borne byhira who receivesit. Pachas The two cusps or horns of the crescent, and tha
of the highest rank are distinguished by three circle of diverginft rai/s in tbe diadem, suggest
tails, and the title heglerbeg, or prince of princes, that the variation is simply one of number; and
Those next in rank are the pachas of two tails, the derivation is strongly corroborated by ety-
and the beys are honoured but with one. These mology. The Hebrew word pp (keren) is con-
tails are not tDom by the pachas, but fastened at nected with, and possibly the original source of,
theendof a lance, having a gilt handle, and carried our two words horn and crown. Its dual (har-
before the pacha, or fixed at the aide of his tent, naim) signifies homt or rayi, as in Habak. iii.4.
3. The alem is a large broad standard, which in- A fact mentioned by D'Herbelot may have
stead of a spear-head has a silver plate in the some connexion with the Turkish crescent. When
middle, bored in the shape of a crescent or half- the celebrated warrior, Tamugin, whose conqueati
moon. (Cantemir, Hist. Oth. Emp., p, 10.) preceded those of the Olhman dynasty, assumed
The sultan's barge, with canopy of purple silk, m a general assembly of the Moguls and Tartars
supported throne-like by four gilt pillars, is the title of Ghenghis Khan, or king of kings, " II
adorned with three gilt candlesticha ; and only the y ordonna qu'une comette blanche seroit dor^-
capudan pacha, when going to sea, is allowed to navant I'^tendart g£n£ral de ses troupes " (_Biblio-
have sunilar ornaments, as he is then considered as thegue Orientals, p. 379.). Thus did the Mogul
deriyd padiihahi, emperor of the sea. Even the conqueror {to use the words of the JPsalmist) " lift
Tizier IS only permitted to display a canopy of up the horn on high." (Psalm Iixv. 5.) About
green silk on ivory pillars, but without candle- half a century after the death of Ghengia Khan,
Sticks. (lb., p. 424.) Aladin, Sultan of Iconium, conferred on Othman,
'. who afterwards founded the Turkish empire, tba
• So sajs De Tott : Cantemir nyi it is red. Bui *"*' '''^'" ~ "* '^''"'"' at»ndards, and Other Orna-
thi« discrepsnoy in the aulhorilies is easily accounted ""cnts of a general. (Cantemir, Hist. Oth. Eiap.,
for, since the Sanjak Cherif i> so sEcted ihst it must P- •**■) "^^^ explanation of the alem by the his-
be looked upon by none but the Miutinant, tlie true torlan in his annotations, I have already quoted,
believers. If seen by the Eyes of ^joourt (unbelievers}. This is the only allusion to the crescent as an ea-
it would be prDfined. (De Tott, MtimnVi, p. 3.) sign that I h&TC met with in Cantemir.
Oct. 1. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
321
The painters of Christendom (no high autho- of Gernemue, that they should henceforth hold
rities in this matter) often represent the crescent the town in "fee -farm," paying yearly the sum of
as a part of Turkish costi^me, worn in front of the 551. in lieu of all rents, tolls, &c. Probably on
turban. But in the portraits of the Turkish em- this occasion a seal of arms was granted. About
perors, "taken from originals in the grand seig- the year 1306 a dispute fell out between Great
nior*s palace," there appears no such ornament. Yarmouth and the men of Little Yarmouth and
(See the plates in Cantemir's History.) Many of Gorleston adjoining, the latter insisting on the
them are represented as wearing the sorguSf a right to load and unload fish in their harbours ;
crest of feathers adorned with precious stones, but the former prevailed as being a free burgh,
Like the horn, it is an emblem of authority, which the others were not. In 1332 a charter
Many of them have two fastened to the turban. was granted (6 Ed. III.) for adjusting these dia-
Your correspondent states that " the crescent is putes, wherein it was directed — -
common upon the reverses of coins of the Eastern «rp. . ,• i j -i.! i i ..u j i.-
i^ir* i.i.rT«i*i i.t»T •■ "^^ snips laden with wool, leather, and skins
empire long before the Turkish conquest." I ^^.^j, ^^ ^^^^om is due, shall clear out
think this highly probable, but would be glad to ^om that port where our beam and the seal called
see the authorities for the fact. I cannot admit, coket remain, and nowhere else (ubi thronus noster et
however, that the crescent was m any de^ee sigillum nostrum, quod dicitur cokei, existunt, et non
" peculiar to Sclave nations ;" for, first, the ScT&ve alibi carcentur)."
nations reached no farther south than Moravia, __, » . ▼ ^ i , i « .
Bohemia, and their vicinity ; they did not occupy ^^^ $^^«^ ^?» }^^ ^^^able to say : but the king s
the seat of the Eastern empire, which was partly ^^am for weighing merchandise, called thronus or
Greek and partly Roman. Secondly, though I ^^^^^^ stood usually m the most public place of
have no work on numismatics to consult, I have *°® **^^^ orj)ort. The legend on this seal appears
casually met with instances in which the heavenly
bodies are represented on Persian, Fhcenician, and
Koman coins. As instances, in Calmet's Dic-
tionary, art. "Moloch," is represented a Persian
coin with the figures of a star and crescent; in
the Pictorial Bible, 2 Chron. xv. 16., a Phoenician
coin bearing a crescent; and in Matt. xx. 1., on a
to be old French, and is evidently the " seal of
assay of Great Yarmouth."
The third seal has probably belonged to Little
Yarmouth. The arms of Great Yarmouth were
" azure three herrings in pale argent." It is not
unlikely that during the disputes between the two
ports the Little Yarmouthites might assume a
Roman coiS of Augustus, there is the figure of f jj ^f *J°*j ? ^^^ ^ such things were more care-
a star. The Turks, however, stamp nothing on
their coins but the emperor's name and the date
of coinage.
Again, in European heraldry, Frank, German,
Gothic, and not Sclave, the crescent appears ; in
"common charges," for example, as one of the
emblems of power, glory, &c. ; and among " dif-
ferences," to distinguish a second son.
Should the above facts tend to throw any light
on the subject of your correspondent's inquiry, I
shall be gratified ; and if any of my views can be
shown to be erroneous, it will afford me equal
pleasure to correct them. J. W. Thomas.
Dewsbury.
fully looked after then than in these degenerate
days, they would not venture on the three
herrings, but content themselves with one; and
they might desire to dignify their town as " New"
instead of " Little " Yarmouth.
With regard to the first seal, I should judge
from its oval shape, the cross, and legend, that it
is ecclesiastic, and has no connexion with Yar-
mouth. Bboctuna.
Bury, Lancashire.
SEALS OF THB BOROUGH OF GREAT YARMOUTH.
(Vol. viii., p. 269.)
I fear that the result of my researches will be
but of little service ; but your Querist is heartily
welcome to the mite I offer.
The second seal appears to have been the seal
of assay ; probably used for certifying the cor-
rectness of the king's beam, or for sealing docu-
ments authorising exports, of which there were
formerly many and various from this port. Yar-
mouth was held by the kings until 9 John, when
a, charter was granted to his burgesses, inhabitants
MOON SUPERSTITIONS.
(Vol. viii., pp. 79. 145.)
Notwithstanding the authority upon which Mb.
Ingleby founds the assertion, that there is not the
"slightest observable dependence" between the
moon and the weather, the dictuA is open to some-
thing more than doubt. That the popular belief
of a full moon bringing fine weather is not strictly
correct, is undoubted; and the majority of the
popular ideas entertained on the influence of the
moon on the weather are equally fallacious ; but
that the moon exerts no influence whatever on the
changes of the weather, is a statement involving
grave errors.
The action of the moon on meteorological pro-
cesses is a highly complex problem ; but the prin-
322
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 205.
cipal conclusions to which scientific obseryations
tend, on this matter, may be pointed out without
perhaps encroaching too much on the space of
« N. & Q."
Luke Howard, of Ackworth, several years ago,
concluded, from a series of elaborate observations,
extending over many years, that the moon exerted
a distinct influence on atmospheric pressure : and
Col. Sabine has more recently shown, from observ-
ations made at the British Magnetical and Meteor-
ological Observatory at St. Helena since 1842 —
*< That the attraction of the moon causes the mercury
in the barometer to stand, on the average, '004 of an
£nglish inch higher when the moon is on the meridian
above or below the pole, than when she is six hours
distant from the meridian." — Cosmos, vol. L note 381,
(author, trans.); Phil, Trans,, 1847, art v.
Luke Howard farther gives co^nt reasons,
from his tabulated observations, for toe conclusion
that the moon has an appreciable effect upon the
weather, exerted through the influence or its at-
traction on the course and direction of the winds,
upon which it acts as a marked disturbing cause ;
and through them it affects the local distribution
of temperature, and the density of the atmosphere.
There is no constant a^eement between the phases
of the moon and certam states of the weather ; but
an apparent connexion is not unfrequently ob-
served, due to the prevalence of certain winds,
which would satisfactorily account for the origin
and persistence of the popular belief: for, "it is
the peculiar and perpetual error of the human
understanding to be more moved and excited by
aflirmatives than negatives" (Nov, Org., Aph. 46.).
For example, in 1807, "not a twentieth part of
the rain of the year fell in that quarter of the
whole space, which occurred under the influence
of the moon at full** (Lectures on Meteorology^ by
L. Howard, 1837, p. 81.). In 1808, however, this
phase lost this character completely.
A more marked relation is found between the
state of the weather and the declination of the
moon : for —
" It would appear, that while the moon is far south of
the equator, there falls but a moderate quantity of rain
with us ; that while she is crossing the equator to-
wards these latitudes, our rain increases*; that the
greatest depth of rain falls, with us, in the week in
which she is in the full north declination, or most
nearly vertical to these latitudes ; and that during her
return over the equator to the south, the rain is re-
duced to its minimum quantity. And this distribulion
obtains in very nearly the same proportions both in cut ex^
tremely dry and in an extremely wet season,** — Climate of
London, by L. Howard, vol. ii. p. 251., 1820.
Still more recently, Luke Howard has summed
up the labours of his life on this subject, and he
writes :
** We have, I think, evidence of a great tidal wave,
or swell in the atmosphere, caused by the moon*8 attrac-
tion, preceding her in her approach to us, and follow-
ing slowly as she departs from these latitudes. Wer6
the atmosphere a calm fl^d ocean of air of uniform
temperature, this tide would be manifested with as
great regularity as those of the ocean of waters. But
the currents uniformly kept up by the sun's varying
influence effectually prevent this, and so complicate
the problem.
*< There is also manifest in the lunar influence a
gradation of effects, which is here shown, as it is found
to operate through a cycle of eighteen years. In these
the mean weight of our atmosphere increases through
the forepart of the period ; and having kept for a year
at the maximum it has attained, decreases again through
the remaining years to a minimum ; about which there
seems to be a fluctuation, before the mean begins to
rise again.** — <* On a Cycle of Eighteen Years in the
Height of the Barometer** (Papers <m Meteorohgy,
Fun II. ; i%a Trans., 1841, Part IL).
It is satisfactory to all interested in this matter
to know that "the incontestable action of oar
satellite on atmospheric pressure, aqueous preci-
pitations, and the dispersion of clouds, will be
treated in the latter and purely telluric portion oT
the Cosmos^ (vol. iii. p. 368., and note 596, where
an interesting illustration is given of the effects
of the radiation of heat from the moon in the
upper strata of our atmosphere).
Jno. K.'Radgijffje.
Dewsbury.
Not being quite satisfied with Ms. InaLiiiT^s
answer to W* W .*s Query, I heft to refler inquirem
to the Nautical Magazine for Jmy, 1850, and three
subsequent months, in which will be found a
translation by Commander L. G. Heath, ILN., of
a pf^r published by M. Arago in the Antttiaire du
Bureau des Longitudes for the year 1833, entitled
"Does the Moon exercise any appreciable In*
fluence on our Atmosphere ?'* This treatise enters
fully into the subject, and gives the results of
several courses of experiments extending over
many years ; which go to prove that in Germany,
at all events, there is more rain during the waxing
than during the waning moon. Several popular
errors are imown to have arisen in the belief that
certain appearances in the moon, really the effect
of peculiar states of the atmosphere, were the
cause of such atmospheric peculiarities ; but we
are allowed some ground for supposing that this
" vulgar error " may have some foundation in
" vulgar truth." G. Wuxiam SKTmnia.
XiATIN BIBDLB.
(Vol. viiL, p. 243.)
The enigma of Aulus Gellius (Nodes AtiictB,
lib. xii. cap. vi.), though transmitted to us in a
corrupt form, is solved at once by the story men-
tioned by Livy (lib. i. cap. Iv.). When Tarquinius
Oct. 1. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
323
Superbus was about to build the Temple of Jupi-
ter Capitolinus, it was found necessary to "ex-
augurate" or dispossess the other deities whose
shrines had previously occupied the ground. All
readily gave way to Father Jupiter with the ex-
ception of Termintis ; and the point of the riddle
lies in the analogy between " Semel minus," "5w
minus," and " Ter minus."
I extract a note from the copy of Aulus Gellius
before me :
<< Barthius (^Adv,, lib. xvi. cap. xxii.) hos versus ita
legebat :
< Semel minus ? Non. Bisminus ? Non. Sat scio.
An utrutnque? Verum; ut quondam audivi dicier,
Jovi ipsi regi noluit concedere.*
** Ita et trimetri sua sibi constant lege, et acumen
repetitis interrogatiunculis. Alioquin frigidum^ re-
sponsum. Potest tamen ita intelligi, ut semel, bis, irao
ter Jove minus sit, et noluerit tamen Jovi cedere.'* —
Page 560. N. : Lugd. Batav., 1706, 4to.
Lactantius, "the Christian Cicero," thus tells
the story :
"Nam cum Tarquinius Capitolium facere vellet; eo-
que in loco multcMrum deorum sacella essent : consu-
luit eos per augurium; utrum Jovi cederent, et ce-
dentibus cseteris, solus Terminus mansit. Unde ilium
Poeta * Capitoli immobile Saxum * vocat (Virg., ^n,
ix. 441.). Facto itaque CapitoUo, supra ipsum Ter-
minum foramen est in tecto relictum : ut quia non
cesserat, libero coelo frueretur."— 2>c Falaa JRelig,, lib. i.
cap. XX. ad fin,
Livy, in a subsequent book (v. 45.), Dionysius
of Halicarnassus (Aniiqu, Rom.y lib. iii. cap. Ixix.)
and Florus assert that Juventas also refused to
move ; and St. Augustine tells the same story of
Mars. I may as well quote his words :
« Cum Rex Tarquinius Capitolium fabricare vellet,
eumque locum qui ei dignior aptiorque videbatur, ab
Diis aliis cemeret prseoccupatum, non audens aliquid
contra eorum facere arbitrium, et credens eos tanto
numini suoque principi voluntate cessuros ; quia multi
erant illic ubi Capitolium constitutum est, per augu-
rium queesivit, utrum concedere locum vellent Jovi :
atque ipsi inde cedere omnes voluerunt, pra^ter illos,
quos comraemoravi, Martem, Terminum, Juventatem :
atque ideo Capitolium ita constitutum est, ut etiam
iste tres intus essent tarn obscuris signis, ut hoc vix
homines doctissimi scirent." — De Chit. Dei, lib. iv.
cap. xxiii.S.
Nor must I omit the following from Ovid :
" Quid, nova quum fierent Capitolia? Nempe Deorum
Cuncta Jovi cessit turba, locumque dedit.
Terminus ut memorant veteres, inventus in aede,
. Restitit, et magno cum Jove templa tenet.
Nunc quoque, se supra ne quid nisi sidera cernat,
Exiguum templi tecta foramen habent.*'
Fast, lib. ii. 667., &c.
Much more information may be found in Smith's
Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography^ &c.,
sub voc. Terminus. Servius, ad Aen. ix. '448.
Folitiani, MiscelL c. 36. Histoire JRomaine, par
Catrou et Rouille, vol. i. p. 343. &c., N. : ^ Paris,
1725, 4to. Grasvii, Thesaur, Antigu. Rom., vol. ix.'
218. N., and vol. x. 783. Traject. ad Rhen., 1699,
fol. Plutarch, in Vit Num<B. Robpbt Gibbinos.
it
HURBAH I
!"
(Vol. viii., p. 20. &c.)
In two previous Numbers (Vol. vL, p. 54. ; Vol.
yii., p. 594.) Queries have been inserted as to the
derivation of the exclamations Hurrah I and Hip^
hip, hurrah ! These have elicited much learned
remark (Vol. vii., p. 633. ; Vol. viii., pp. 20. 277.),
but still I think the real originals have not yet
been reached by your correspondents.
As to hip, hip ! I fear it must remain question-
able, whether it be not a mere fanciful conjecture
to resolve it into the initials of the war-cry of
the Crusaders, " Hierosolyma est perdita ! " The
authorities, however, seem to establish that it
should be written " hep" instead of hip, I would
only remark, en passant, that there is an error in
the passage cited by Mb. Brent (Vol. viii., p. 88.)
in opposition to this mediaeval solution, which en-
tirely destroys the authority of the quotatk)n. He
refers to a note on the ballad of *' Old Sir Simon
the King," in which, on the couplet —
** Hang up all the poor hep drinkers,
Cries Old Sir Sim, the king of skinkers.**
the author says that " hep was a term of derision
applied to those who drank a weak infusion of the
hep (or hip) berry or sloe : and that the exclam-
ation ' hip, hip, hurrah ! * is merely a corruption
of ' hip, hip, away !' " But, unfortunately for this
theory, the hip is not the sloe, as the annotator
seems to suppose ; nor is it capable of being used
in the preparation of any infusion that could be
substituted for wine, or drunk "with all the
honours." It is merely the hard and tasteless
buckey of the wild dog-rose, to the flower of which
Chaucer likens the gentle knight Sir Thopas :
** As swete as is the bramble flour,
That beareth the red hepe,**
This demurrer, therefore, does not affect the
validity of the claim which has been set up in
favour of an oriental origin for this convivial
refrain.
As to Tivrrah ! if I be correct in my idea of its
parentage, there are few words still in use which
can boast such a remote and widely extended
prevalence. It is one of those interjections in
which sound so echoes sense, that men seem to
have adopted it almost instinctively. In India
and Ceylon, the Mahouts and attendants of the
baggage-elephants cheer them on by perpetual
repetitions of ur-ri, ur-ri ! T%e Arabs and camel-
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NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[No. 205.
drivers in Turkey, Palestine, and Egypt encourage
their animals to speed by shoutina; ar-ri, ar-rS!
The Moors seem to have carried the custom wilb
them into Spain, where the mules and horses ore
«till driven with cries of ai-ri (whence the mule-
teers derive their Spanish appellation of arrieros).
In France, the sportsman excites the hound by
shouts of hare, hare ! and the waggoner turns
bis horses by his voice, and the use of the word
hvrhaid! In Germany, according to Johnson
(in oerho Huery), " Hars was a word used by
the did Germans in urging their horses to speed,"
And to the present day, the herdsmen in Ireland,
and parts of Scotland, drive their cattle with
ehoata of harrieh, hurrish ! In the latter country,
in fact, to htrri/, or to harry, is the popular term
descriptive of the predatory habits of the border
reivers in plundering and "driving the cattle" of
the low landers.
The sound is so expressive of excitement and
energy, that it seems to have been adopted in all
nations as a stimulant in times of commotion ;
and eventually as a war-cry by ihe Russians, the
English, and almost every people of Europe. Sir
Francis Fal!;rave, in the passage quoted from his
Hitloty of Normandy (" N. & Q.," Vol. viii., p. 20.}.
has described the custom of the Normans in
raising the country by " the cry of haro" or karon,
upon which all llie lieges were bound to join in
pursuit of the offender. This clamevr de haron is
the origin of the English " hue and cry ;" and the
word hue itself seems to retain some trace of the
prevailing pedigree.
This stimulating interjection appears, in fact, to
have enriched the French language as well as our
own with some of the moat expressive etymologies.
It is the parent of the obsolete French verb harer,
" ia hound on, or excite clamour gainst any one."
And it is to be traced in the eplUiet for a worn-
out horse, a harideUe, or haridan.
In like manner, our English expressions, to
hurry, to harry, and harasa a flying enemy, are all
instinct with the same impulse, and all traceable
to the same root. J. Emesson Tebbbbt.
The following extract from Mr, Thos. Dicey's
Sist. of Guerruey (edit. Lond. 1751), pp. 8,9,10,,
may be worth adding to the foregoing notes on this
subject :
" One thing more relating to Hallo Mr, Falle, in
hii account of Jersey, introduces in the fallowing
wanner, not only for the singularity of il, but the
particulEir concern nhich that island has still in it,
" Whetlier it beRan through Rollo's ovn appoint-
ment, or look iU rise among the people from an awful
it is, that a custom obtained in his time, that in case
of incroacbment and invasion of property, or of any
other oppiessian and violence requiring immediate
teiaedy, tlie patty aggrieved need do no more than call
upon the name of the Duke, though at
a distance, thrice repeating aloud
instantly the aggressor was at his peril to forbear
attempting anything further. — Aa f or ffa ! is the
exclamation of a person suffering; Ro is the Duke's
name abbreviated ; so that Ha-Ro is as much as to say,
O / flottj, my Prince, luccotir me. Accordingly (says
Mr, Falle) with us, in Jersey, the cry is, Ha-Ro, i
raidt, man Prince I And this is that famous Clameta-
de Haro, subsisting in practice even when Hollo waa
no more, so much praised and commented upon by
all olio have nrote on the NoriDBn Uvs. A notable
example of its virtue and power vu leen about one
hundred and seventy years after Rollo's death, at
William the Conqueror's funeral, when, in confidence
lliereof, a private man and a subject dared to oppose
the burying of his body, in the following manner:
" It seems that, in order to build the great Abbey of
Si. Stephen at Caen, where he intended to lie after his
decease, the Conqueror had caused several houses to
be pulled down for enlarging the area, and amongst
them one whose owner had recnved no satisbction for
his loss. The son of that person (others say the per-
son himself) observing the grave to be dug on that
very spot of ground which had been the site of his
father's bouse, went boldly into the assembly, and for-
bid them, not in the namt of God, as some have it, but
■'■ the name of RcHo, to bury the body there,
" Faulus JEmylius, who relates the story, ttyt that
he addressed himself to the company in these words:
' He who oppressed kingdoms by his arms has been my
oppressor also, and has kept me under ■ continual fear
of death. Since I have outlived him who injured me,
I mean not to acquit him now he is dead. The ground
whereon you are going to lay this man is mine ; and I
affirm that none may in justice bury tbeir dead in
ground which belongs to another. If, after he is gone,
force and violence are still used to detain my right
from me, I affeal to Rollo, the founder and fiuher
of our nation, who, though dead, lives in his laws, I
take refuge in those laws, owning no authority above
"This uncommonly brave speech, sptJteo in (ircKnee
of the deceased king's own son. Prince Henry, after-
wards our King Henry I., wrought its effact : the
Ha-Ro was respected, ihe man bad compensation mode
him for Ilia wrongs, and, all opposition ceasing, the
dead king was laid in his grave."
J. SABtOK.
PBOTOORAFHIC COBRBBFOHSEHCB.
Proeesi for Priniiitg on Albumenized Paper. —
The power of obtaining agreeable and well-printed
positives from their nezatives being the great ob-
ject with all photographers, induces me to com-
municate the following mode of preparing albu-
menized paper; a mode which, although jt doei
not possess any remarkable novelty, seems to ma
deserving of being made generally known, from
its giving a uniformity of results which ma; at all
times be depended upon.
Oct. 1. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
325
Independently of the very rich and agreeable
tones which may be produced by the process which
I am about to describe, it has the property of
affording permanent pictures, not liable to that
change by time to which pictures produced by the
use of the ammonio-nitrate solution are certainly
liable. I have upon all occasions advocated the
economical practice of photography, and the
present process will be found of that character;
but at the same time I can assure your readers
that a rapidity of action and intensity are hereby
obtained with a 40-grain solution of nitrate of
silver, fully equal to those gained from solutions
of 120, or even 200, grains to the ounce, as is fre-
quently practised.
In eight ounces of water (distilled or not) dis-
solve forty grains of common salt, and the same
quantity of muriate of ammonia.* Mix this so-
lution with eight ounces of albumen ; beat "j" the
whole well together, allow it to stand in a tall
vessel from twenty-four to forty hours, when the
clear liquor may be poured off into a porcelain
dish rather larger than the paper intended to be
albumenized.
Undoubtedly the best paper for this process,
and relative quantity of chemicals, is the thin
Canson Fr^res* ; but a much cheaper, and per-
haps equally suitable paper, is that made by Tow-
good of St. Neots. Neither with Whatman's nor
Turner's papers, excellent as they are for some
processes, have I obtained such satisfactory results.
If the photographer should unfortunately possess
some of the thick paper of any inferior makers,
he had far better throw it away than waste his
chemicals, time, and temper upon the vain en-
deavour to turn it to any good account.
The paper, having first been marked on the
right-hand upper corner of the smooth side, is
then to be floated with that marked side on the
albumen. This operation, which is very easy to
perform, is somewhat difficult to describe. I will
however try. Take the marked corner of the
sheet in the right-hand, the opposite corner of the
lower side of the paper in the left ; and bellying
out the sheet, let the lower end fall gently on to
the albumen. Then gradually let the whole sheet
fall, so as to press out before it any adherent par-
ticles of air. If this has been carefully done, no
air-bubbles will have been formed. The presence
of an air- bubble may however soon be detected by
the puckered appearance, which the back of the
* The addition of one drachm of acetic acid much
facilitates the easy application of the albumen to the
paper ; but it is apt to produce the unpleasant redness
so often noticeable in photographs. The addition of
forty grains of chloride of barium to the two muriates,
yields a bistre tint, which is admired by some photo-
graphers.
f Nothing answers so well for this purpose as a
small box-wood salad spoon.
paper assumes in consequence. When this is the
case, the paper must be carefully raised, the bubble
dispersed, and the paper replaced. A thin paper
requires to float for three minutes on the albumen,
but a thicker one proportionably longer. At the
end of that time raise the marked corner with the
point of a blanket pin ; then take hold of it with
the finger and thumb, and so raise the sheet
steadily and ver^ slowly, that the albumen may
drain off at the lower left corner. I urge this
raising it very slowly, because air-bubbles are very
apt to form on the albumen by the sudden snatch-
ing up of the paper.
Each sheet, as it is removed from the albumen,
is to be pinned up by the marked corner on a long
slip of wood, which must be provided for the pur-
pose. In pinning it up, be careful that the albu-
menized side takes an inward curl, otherwise, from
there being two angles of incidence, streaks will
form from the middle of the paper. During the
drying, remove from time to time, with a piece of
blotting-paper, the drop of fluid which collects at
the lower corner of the paper.
In order to fix the albumen, it is necessary that
the paper should be ironed with an iron as hot as
can be used without singeing the paper. It should
be first ironed between blotting-paper, and when
the iron begins to cool, it may be applied directly
to the surface of each sheet.
To excite this paper it is only needful to float it
carefully from three to five minutes, in the same
way as it was floated on the albumen, upon a
solution of nitrate df silver of forty grains to the
ounce. Each sheet is then to be pinned up and
dried as before. It is scarcely necessary to add,
that this exciting process must be carried on by
the lia;ht of a lamp or candle.
This paper has the property of keeping good
for several days, if kept in a portfolio. It has also
the advantage of being very little affected by the
ordinary light of a room, so that it may be used
and handled in any apartment where the direct
light is not shining upon it ; yet in a tolerably in-
tense light it prints much more rapidly than that
prepared with the ammonio-nitrate.
The picture should be fixed in a bath of sa-
turated solution of hypo. The hypo, never gets
discoloured, and should always be carefully pre-
served. When a new bath is formed, it is well to
add forty grains of chloride of silver to every eight
ounces of the solution.
A beautiful violet or puce tint, with great
whiteness of the high lights, may be obtained by
using the following bath as a fixing solution :
Hyposulphite of soda - - 8 ounces.
Sel d'or 7 grains.
Iodide of silver - - - 10 grains.
Water ----- 8 ounces.
It may be as well to add, that although the ni-
trate of silver solution used for exciting becomes
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NOTES AND QUEBIES.
[No. 205,
discoloured, it acts equally well, even when of a
daik brown colour; but it may always be de-
prived of its colour, and rendered sufficiently pure
again, by filtering it through a little animal char-
coal. Hugh W. Diamond.
Anderson^ s Royal Oenealogiea rVol. viii., p. 198.).
— In reply to your correspondent G., I may be
permitted to remark that it is generally under-
stood that no *' memoir or biographical account **
is extant of Dr. James Anderson ; but short
notices of him and his works will be found on re-
ference to the OentlemarCs Magazine^ vol. liii.
p. 41. ; Chalmers* General Biographical Diction'
ary^ 1812; Chambers* Lives of luustrious ScotS'
men, 1833 ; Biographical Dictionary of the Society
of Usefitl Knowledge^, 1843 ; and also in Ro8e*s
New Biographical Dictionary^ 1848. T. Gr. S.
Edinburgh.
Thomas Wright of Durham (Vol. viii., p. 218.).
— *It may interest Mb. Db Mobgan to be referred
to a manuscript in the British Museum, marked
^* Additional, 15,627.,*' which he will find to be one
of the original ** note-books," if not the very note-
book itself, from which the notice of the life of
Thomas Wright was compiled for the Oentleman's
Magazine, It is, in fact, an autobiography by
Wright, written in the form of a journal ; and
although containing entries as late as the year
1780, it ceases to be continuous with the year
1748, and has no entries at all between that year
and 1756. This break in the journal sufficiently
accounts for the deficiency in the biography, given
by the GentlenuuCs Magazine,
I may mention, also, that the Additional MS.
15,628. contains Wright's unpublished collections
relative to British, Roman, and Saxon antiouities
m England. £. A. Bond.
Weather Predictions (Vol. viii., p. 218. &c.). —
The following is a Worcestershire saying :
" When Bredon Hill puts on his hat,
Ye men of the vale, beware of that.**
Similar to this is a saying I have heard in the
northern part of Northumberland :
"When Cheevyut (i. e. the Cheviot Hills) ye see put
on his cap,
Of rain ye'U have a wee bit drap.*'
There is a saying very common in many parts of
Huntingdonshire, that when the woodpeckers are
much heard, rain is sure to follow.
Cuthbebt Bsdb, B.A.
BacorCs Essays : BvUaces (Vol. viii., pp. 167.
223.). — " BuUace" (I never heard Bacon's plural
used) are known in Kent as small white tartish
plums, which do not come to perfection without
the help of a frost, and so are eaten when their
fellows are no more found. They have only been
cultivated of late years» I believe, but how long
I cannot telL G» Wujliam Sktbihq.
Somerset House.
** Bullaces " are a small white or yellow plum,
about the size of a cherry, like a very poor kind
of greengage, which, in ordinary seasons, when
I was a lK>y, were the common display of the fruit-
stalls at the corners of the streets, so common and
well known that I can only imagine Mb. Halu-
WBix to have misdescribed them by a slin of the
pen writing black for white. Fbamk Howard.
"Gennitings" are early apples {quasi •Ttute*
eatings^ as ^gilMowers," said to be corrupted
from Jul^ flowers). For the derivation sugeested
to me while I write, I cannot answer \ but for the
fact I can, having, while at school in Needham
Market, Suffolk, plucked and eaten many a
" striped genniting," while " codlins " were on a
tree close by. And many a time have I been
rallied as a Cockney for saying I had gathered
" enough " instead of " enow," which one of your
Suffolk correspondents has justly recorded as the
county expression applied to number as distiu-
guished from quantity. Frank Howard.
Nixon the Prophet (Vol. viii., p. 257.). — Mr.
T. Hughes mentions Nixon " to nave lived and
prophesied in the reign of James I., at whose
court, we are farther told, he was, in conformity
with his own prediction, starved to death.** 1
have an old and ragged edition, entitled The Lifk
and Prophecies of the celebrated Robert Nixon^ the
Cheshire Prophet, The "life" professes to be
Prepared from materials collected in the neigh*
ourhood of Vale Boyal, on a farm near which,
and rented by his father, Nixon was bom —
« on Whitsunday, and was christened by the
of Robert in the year 1467, about the seventh year of
Edward IV."
Among various matters it is mentioned, —
" What rendered Nixon the most noticed was, thai
the time when the battle of Bosworth Field was fought
between King Richard III. and Kins Henry VI L, he
stopped his team on a sudden, and with bis whip
pointing from one laud to the other, cried ' Now Ri-
chard ! now Henry ! * several times, till at last he said,
* Now Harry, get over that ditch and. you gain the
day I'"
This the plough-holder related; it afterwards
proved to be true, and in consequence Robert wm
required to attend Henrr VII.'s court, where he
was ** starved to death, owing to having been
locked in a room and forgotten. The Bosworth
Field prophecy, which has often been repeated.
Oct. 1. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIESi
327
carries the time of Nixon*s alleged exbtence much
before the period named bj I.Hughes, namely,
James I.*s reign. A Hermit at Hampstjbab.
Parochial lAbrariea (Vol, vm^ p. 62.). — There
is an extensiye, and rather yaluable, library at-
tached to St. Mary*s Church, Bridgenorth, pre-
sented to and for the use of the parishioners, by
Dean Stackhouse in 1750. It comprises some eight
hundred volumes, chiefly divinity. There are two
or three fine MSS. in tne collection, one especially
worthy of notice. A splendidly illuminated Latin
MS., dated about 1460, engrossed upon vellum,
and extending to three hundred leaves (C. 62. in
the Catalogue). I noticed many fragments of
etarlj MSS. bound up with Hebrew and Latin
editions of the Bible ; and a portion of a remark-
ably fine missal, forming the dexter cover of a
copy of Laertius de Vita Pkilosophica (4to. 1524).
Surely a society may be formed, havmg for its
object the rescuing, transcribing, and printing of
those scarcely noticed fragments. Mji. Hales*
plan appears perfectly feasible. lam convinced
much interesting matter would be brought to light,
if a little interest was excited on the subject.
R. C. Wabdb.
Kidderminster.
Over the porch of Nantwich Church is a small
room, once the repository of the ecclesiastical
records ; but latterly (in consequence of the sacri-
legious abstraction of those documents by an un-
known hand) used for a library of theological
works, placed there for the special behoof of the
neighbouring clergy. The collection is but a
small one ; and is, I fear, not often troubled by those
for whose use it was designed. T. Hughes.
Chester.
" Ampers and,'' Sfc. (Vol. viii., p. 173.). — Mju
C. Mai«8fiei4D Inglebt having revived this Query
without apparently being aware of the previous
discussion and of Mb.Nicholl^s solution, " andj^^r
ae and," may I be permitted to enter a protest
against the latter mixture of English and Latin,
though fully concurring in the statement of Mb.
NiCHOLL, that it is a rapidly formed et (^). To
the variety of pronunciations already appearing in
** N. & Q.," let me add what I believe will be
found to be the most general, empesand, which I
believe to be a corruption from emm^esSyand
(MS. and) by the introduction of a labiixlj as in
many other instances. But has any one ever seen
it spelt till the Query appeared in " N. & Q.," and
where ? Fbank Howaxd.
The Arms of De Sissonne (Vol. viii., p. 243.).
— There is a copy of Histoire Genealogique et
Chronohgique de la. Maison Royale de France, par
le Pere Anselme, nine vols, folio, Paris, 1726--33,
in the library of Sir B. Taylor s InstitutioDf Ox-
ford. The arms of the Seigneurs de Sissonne are
not blazoned in it. It is staled by Ansel me, tiiat
''Louis, Batard de Sarrebrucbe-Rouey, fik iiaturel
de Jean de Sarrebruche, Comte de Rouoy, fut Seignenr
de Sissonne, seryit sous Jean d'HumiSres, et est nomm^
dans plusieurs actes des ann^es 1510, 1515, 1517, et
1518. II fit un accord devant le prevot de Paris avec
Robert de Sarrebruche, Comte de Roucy, le 28 Mars,
1498» touchant la terre et cfaatellenie de Sissonne." —
Tome viii. p. 537.
The arms of the *' Comte de Sarrebtrache, Sire de
C(Hnmercy en Lorraine, Conseilier et Chambellaa
du Koi, Bouteiller de France," &c., are repre-
sented—
<* D*asur seme de croix recroiset^ au pied fich6
d*or, au lion d'argent couronn^ d'or sur le tout.**
The following are also extracts from the Histoire
GSnialogique :
" Louis de Roucy, Comte de Sissonne, Section de
Laon, portoit d^or au lion cTazttr.** • . . •
** Le Nobiiiaire de Picardie, in 4°. p.464 donnei Louis
de Roucy, Comte de Sissonne, deux neveux, Charles et
Louis de Roucy, Seigneurs d*Origny et de Ste PreuTe***
— Tome viii. p. 538.
J. Macrat.
St. PatricJC* Purgatory (Vol. vii., p. 552.). —
Some degree of doubt appearing to exist, by the
statement in p. 178. of the present volume, as to
the position of the real St. Patrick's Purgatory, I
send the following from Camden :
" The Liffey,** says he, " near unto his spring head,
enlarges his stream and spreads abroad into a lake,
wherein appears above the water an island, and in i^
bard by a little monastery, a very narrow vault within
the ground, much spoken of by reason .of its religious
horrors. "Which cave some say was dug by Ulysses
when he went down to parley with those in hell.
" The inhabitants," be continues, ** term it in these
days EUan »' Frugad&ry, that is, The lile of Purgatory^
or St. Patrick's Purgatory. For some persons devoutljr
credulous affirm that St. Patrick, the Irishmen's
apostle, or else some abbot of the same name, obtained
by most earnest prayer at the hands of God, that the
punishments and torments which the widked are to
suffer after this life, might here be presented to the
eye; that so be might the more easily root out tha
sins and heathoush errors which stuck so &st to his
countrymen the Jrisb,"
G.W.
Stansted, Montfichet.
Sir George Carr (Vol. vii., pp. 512. 558.). —
Since W. St. and Guuelmus replied to my Query,
I have discovered more particular information
regarding him. Li a MS. in Trinity Cojlege,
Dublin, I find the following :
** Sir George Carr of Southerhall, Yorkshire, mar«
ried, on Jan. 15, 1637, Grissell, daughter of Sir Robert
Meredith, Chancellor of the Exchequer in Ireland ;
their son, William Carr, born Jan. 11, 1639, married
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[No. 205.
on August 29, 1665, Elizabeth, daughter of Francis
(Edward) Synge, Bishop of Cork. There were two
children of this marriage : Edward, bom Oct. 7, 1671
(who died unmarried); and Barbara, born May 12,
1672 ; she married John Cliffe, Esq., of Mulrankin, co.
Wexford, and had several children, of whom the eldest,
John, was grandfather of the present Anthony Cliffe of
Bellevue, co. Wexford, Esq."
Edward Synge was Bishop of Cork from Dec.
1663 to his death in 1678.
Sir George Carr apx>ear3 to be the son of Wil-
liam Carr, the eldest son of James Carr of York-
shire : see Uarl. MS. 1487, 451.
Sir Bobert Meredith, father of Lady Carr, mar-
ried Anne, daughter of .Sir William Upton, Clerk
of the Council in Ireland.
Could any of your correspondents give any ac-
count of the family of either of them ? Y. S. M.
Gravestone Inscription (Vol. viii., p. 268.). —
The gravestone inscription communicated by
Julia R. Bockett consists of the last four lines of
the ballad of " Death and the Lady " (see Dixon's
JBalladSf by the Percy Society). They should
be:
" The grave's the market-place where all men meet.
Both rich and poor, as well as small and great :
If life were merchandise that gold could buy.
The rich would live, the poor alone would die."
In the introduction to Smith's edition of Hol-
bein's Dance of Death, the editor says :
** The concluding lines have been converted into an
epitaph, to be found in moat of our village churchyartU,"
Of the truth of which assertion the churchyard
of Milton-next- Gravesend, in Kent, furnishes an
illustration, as I copied the lines from a stone
there some years ago. Being generally, I imagine,
quoted from memory, they do not appear to be
exactly similar in any two instances.
S. Singleton.
Greenwich.
*' A Tub to theWhale]' (Vol.viii., pp.220. 304.).—
I observe that a Querist, Fimlico, asks the origin
of the phrase to " throw a tub to the whale." I
think an explanation of this will be found in the
introduction to Swift's Tale of the Tub. I cannot
lay my hand on the passage, but it is to the effect
that sailors engaged in the Greenland fisheries
make it a practice to throw over-board a fM6 to a
wounded whale, to divert his attention from the
boat which contains his assailants.
J. Emerson Tennekt.
Hour-glasses in Pulpits (Vol. vii., p. 489.^
Vol. viii., pp. 82. 209.). — Whilst turning over the
pages of Macaulay's History, I accidentally stum-
bled upon the following passage, which forms an
interesting addition to the Notes already col-
lected in your pages. Speaking of Gilbert
Burnet, Bishop of Salisbury, he says :
" He was often interrupted by the deep hum of bis
audience ; and when, after preaching out the bour-glas^
which in those days was part of the furniture of the
pulpit, he held it in his hand, the congregation cla-
morously encouraged him to go on till the sand had
run off once more.** — Macaulay's History, vol. ii.
p. 177. edit. 3., with a reference in a foot-note to
Speaker Onslow*s Note on Burnet, i. 596, ; Johnson's
Life of Sprat.
The hour-glass stand at St Alban's, Wood
Street, appears to be a remarkable example : see
Sperling's Church Walks iti Middlesex, p. 155., and
Allen's Lambeth. And in the report of the
meeting of the Archaeological Association at Ko-
chester, in the Illustrated London News of the 6th
August, 1853, it is noted that in the church at
Cliff, "the pulpit has an hour-glass stand dated
1636 :" the date gives an additional interest to this
example. W. Sfaebow Suifson.
Slow-worm Superstition (Vol. viii., p. 33.). —
The slow-worm superstition, about which Tower
inquires, and to whom I believe no answer has
been returned, is quite common in the North of
England. One of the many uses of ** N. & Q.*' is
the abundant proof that supposed localisms are in
fact common to all England. I learn from the
same Number, p. 44., that in Devonshire a slater
is called a hellier. To hill, that is to cover, ^^ hill
me up," t. e. cover me up, is as common in Lanca-
shire as in Wicliff's Bible. We have not, how-
ever, hellier or hillier for one whose business it is
to cover in a house. P. P.
Sincere (Vol. viii., p. 195.). — I should be glad
if Mb. Ingleby would point out any authority for
the practice of the Roman potters to which he
refers. The only passage I can call to mind as
countenancing his derivation is Hor. Hp. i. 2. 54. :
*' Sincerum est nisi vas, quodcumque infundi^ acescit.**
in which there is no reason why sincerum should
not be simply sine cera, sine fuco, i. e. pure as
honey, free or freed from the wax, thence any-
thing pure. This derivation is supported also by
Donatus, adTer. Eun. i. 2. 97., and Noltenius, Lex.,
Antibar. Cicero also, who chose his expressions
with great accuracv, employs sincerus as directly
opposed to fucatus m his Dialogus de Amicit, 25. :
" Secernere omnia fucata et simulata a dnceris atquft
veris."
In the absence of positive proof on the other
side, I am inclined to think Mb. Tbench is right.
n. B.
Books chained to Desks in Churches — Seven
Candlesticks (Vol. viii., pp.94. 206.). — In Mr.
Sperling's Church Walks in Middlesex, it is noted
Oct. 1. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
329
in tbe account of the church at Whitchurch (alias
Little Stanmore), that —
" Many of the prayer books, given by the duke [of
Cbandos], still remain chained to the pues for the use
of the poorer parishioners.*' — P. 104.
At p. 138. a curious ornament of some of the
London churches is referred to :
" We find several altar-pieces in which seven wooden
candlesticks, with wooden candles, are introduced, viz.
St. Mary-at-Hill; St. Ethelburga, Bishopsgate; Ham-
mersmith, &c. : these are merely typical of the seven
golden candlesticks of the Apocalypse." — llev. i. 20.
This portion of ecclesiastical furniture appears
to' me sufficiently unusual to be worth notmg in
your pages : is it to be found elsewhere than in
churches in and near London ? If not, a list of
those churches in which it is now to be seen would
be acceptable to ecclesiologists.
W. Sparrow Simpson.
Oxford.
D.Ferrand; French Patois (Yol.viii., p. 243.). —
The full title of Ferrand's work, referred to by
your correspondent Mr. B. Snow of Birmingham,
IS as follows :
" Inventaire General de la Muse Normande, divisee
en xxviii parties oii sont descrites plusieurs batailles,
assauts, prises de villes, guerres etrangeres, victoires
de la France, histoires comiques, Esraotions popu-
laires, grabuges et choses remarquables arriv^es k
Rouen depuis quarante annees, in 8o., et se vendent
a Rouen, chez Tavthevr, rue du Bac, a I'Enseigne de
rimprimerie, m. dc.lv., pages 484."
There is also another publication by Ferrand
with the title of —
" Les Adieux de la Muse Normande aux Palinots,
et quelques autres pieces, pages 28."
The author was a printer at Rouen, and the
patois in which his productions are written is the
Norman. The Biographie Universelle says they
are the best known ox all that are composed in
that dialect. J. Macray.
Wood of the Cross (Vol. vii., pp. 177. 334. 437.
488.). — Is it an old belief that the cross was com-
posed of four different kinds of wood ? Boys, in a
note on Ephesians iii. 18. (JVorhs^ p. 495.), says,
" Other have discoursed of the foure woods, and
dimensions in the materiall crosse of Christ, more
subtilly than soundly," and refers in the margin to
Anselm and Aquinas, but without giving the re-
ference to the exact passages. Can any of your
readers supply this deficiency ? R. J. Allen.
Ladies* Arms in a Lozenge (Vol. viii., pp. 37.83.).
— ^BROCTUNAhaff a theory that ladies bear their arms
in a lozenge, because hatchments are of that shape ;
and it is probable that widows in old time " would
Tie with each other in these displays of the in-
signia of mourning." It has, however, escaped his
memory, that maids with living fathers also use
the lozenge, and that in a man s hatchment it is
the frame only, and not the shield at all, which
has the lozenge shape. The man*s arms in the
hatchment not being on a lozenge, it is scarcely
possible his widow could thence have adopted it.
He suggests that the shape was adopted for hatch-
ments as being most convenient for admitting the
arms of the sixteen ancestors.
I wish to insert a Query, as to whether the six-
teen quarters ever were made use of this way in
English heraldry ? Perhaps your readers will be
willing to allow that the lozenge is surely a fitting
emblem for the sweeter sex ; but is not the routine
reason the true one after all ? The lozenge has a
supposed resemblance to the distaff, the emblem of
the woman. We have spinster from the same idea;
and, though I cannot now turn to the passage, I
am sure I have seen the Salic law described as
forbidding " the holder of the distafi* to grasp the
sceptre." P. P.
Burial in unconsecrated Ground (Vol. vi., p. 448. ;
Vol. viii., p. 43.). — The late elegant and accom-
plished Sir W. Temple, though he laid not his
whole body in his garden, deposited the better
part of it (his heart) there ; " and if my executors
will gratify me in what I have desired, I wish my
corpse may be interred as I have bespoke them ;
not at all out of singularity, or for want of a dor-
mitory (of which there is an ample one annexed
to the parish church), but for other reasons not
necessary here to trouble the reader with, what I
have said in general being sufficient. However,
let them order as they think fit, so it be not in the
church or chanceV* (Evelyn's Sylva^ book iv.)
" In the north aisle of the chancel [of Wotton
Church] is the burying-place of the Evelyns (within
which is lately made, under a decent arched chapel, a
vault). In the chancel on the north side is a tomb,
about three feet high, of freestone, shaped like a coffin;
on the top, on white marble, is this inscription :
* Here lies the Body
of John Evelyn, Esq.* "♦
This inscription commemorates the author of
Sylvd, and evinces how unobsequiously obsequies
are sometimes solemnised.
Evelyn mentions Sumner On Garden Buriai^
probably " not circulated."
BiBLIOTHECAR. ChBTHAM.
Table-turning (Vol. viii., p. 57.). — Without
going the length of asserting, with La Bruy^re,
that "tout estdit," or believinc^, with Dutens, that
there is no modern discovery that was not known,
in some shape or other, to the ancients, it seems
* Aubrey*8 Natural History and Antiquities of Surrey^
vol. iv.
830
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 205.
not unreasonmbld to suppose that table-turning,
the principle of which lies so near the surface of
social life, was practised in former ages.
l!liis reminds one of the expression, so familiar
among controversialists, of ^ turning the tables **
upon an adversary. What is the origin of the
latter phrase ? It is time some explanation of it
were offered, if only to caution the etymologists
q€ a future age against confounding it widi our
"table- turning.** Henbt H. Bbben.
St Lucia.
"Fefl** a frtV (Vol. viii., p. 197.).— I beg
leave to suggest to Dbvonibnsis the following as
a probable explanation of the use of this phiase ;
the rhyme that follows being superadded, for the
Bake of the jingle and the truism, in the best style
of rustic humour.
Well I is often used in conversation as an ex-
pletive, even by educated people, a slight pause
ensuing after the ejaculation, as if to ^lect the
thoughts before the reply is given. Is it not
therefore called a fret^ or stop, in the Devon
vernacular, figuratively, like the fret or stop in
a musical instrument, the cross bars or protube-
rance in a stringed, and a peg in a wind instru-
ment?
Hamlet says, in taunting Rosencrantz for his
treasonable attempts to worm himself into his con-
fidence,—
" Call me what instrument you will ; though you
canyref me, you cannot play upon me.**
Taken In this other sense in which we use the
word/re^, is it not probable that it has passed into
a proverb ; and that the lines, as given by D£VO-
iraENSis, are a corruption of
« Well 1 don't fret ;
He who dies for love will never be hang'd for debt."
— the invention of some Damon to comfort Stre-
phon in his loneliness. M. (2)
Tenet for Tenent (Vol. viii., p. 258.).— The note
of your correspondent Balliolensis does not
address itself to the Query put by Y. B. N. J. in
Vol. vii., p. 205., When aid the use of tenent
give way to tenet f
You will find that Burton, in the Anatomy of
Melancholy, which was published in 1621, uses
uniformly tenent (vide vol. i. pp. 1. 317. 408. 430.
446. &c.).
But Sir Thomas Browne in 1646, twenty-four
years later, printed the first edition of his Vulgar
Errors under the title of Pseudodoxia epidemica,
or Enquiries into very many received Tenets and
commonly presumed Truths.
I cannot find that Burton in any passage respects
the grammatical distinction suggested by both
your correspondents, that tenet should denote the
opinion of an individual, and tenent those of it sect.
He applies the latter indifferently, both as regards
the plural and singular. Thus, ** Aponensis thinks
it proceeds," but "Laurentius condemns hu
tenent'* (part L sect iii. mem. 3.). And again,
**the;f are furious, impatient in discourse, stiff
and irrefragable in their tenents** (ib. p. i. «. ir.
mem. 1. sub. 3.). J. EMBasoN Tsnkbnt.
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Notes on Newspapers : ** The Times," Daily Press,
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by Joshua G. Fitch - - - - - 335
Binders of the Volumes in the Harleian Library - 335
French Verse, by Thos. Keightley - - - 336
A Spanish Flav-bill, by William Robson - .336
Shakspeare Correspondence, by Robert Rawlinson,
C. Mansfield Ingleby, &c. . - - - 336
Minor Notes :— Injustice, its Origin — Two Brothers
of the same Christian Name — Female Parish Clerli • 338
Queries : —
Descendants of Milton ....
An anxious Query from the Hymmalayas
. 339
. 339
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Advertisements . •
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Translation of the Prayer Book into French - - 343
Praying to the West - - - - - 34 J
.Taco'.> Bobart, by Dr.E. F. Rimbault - - - 344
Early Use of Tm.— Derivation of the Name of Britain,
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W.King, Ac. 346
Stars are the Flowers of Heaven, by W. Fraser - - 346
Books burned by the common Hangman, by John S.
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THE TIMES, DIILT
ToL.Vnr.— No.206.
PRESS, ETC.
A newspaper, rightly conducted, is a potent
power in promoting the well-being of universal
man. It is also a highly moral power — for it
quickens mind everywhere, and puts in force those
principles which tend to lessen human woe, and
to exalt and dignify our common humanity. The
daily press, for the most part, aims to correct
error — whether senatorial, theological, or legal.
It pleads in earnest tones for the removal of public
wrong, and watches with a keen eye the rise and
fall of great interests. It teaches with command-
ing power, and makes its influence felt in the
palace of the monarch, as well as through all
classes of the community. It helps on, in the path
of honorable ambition, the virtuous and the good.
It never hesitates or falters, however formidable
the foe. It never crouches, however injurious
to itself the free and undisguised utterance of
some truths may be. It is outspoken. When the
nation requires them, it is bold and fearless in
propounding great changes, though they may clash
with the expectations of a powerful class. It
heeds the reverses to which a nation is subjected,
and turns them to good account. It does not
abuse its power, and is never menaced. It is un-
shackled, and therefore has a native growth. It
looks on the movements of the wide world calmly,
deliberately, and intelligently. We believe the
independency of the daily press can never be
bribed, or its patronage won by unlawful means.
Its mission is noble, and the presiding sentiment
of the varied intellect employed upon it is " the
greatest good to the greatest number." It never
ceases in its operations. It is a perpetual thing :
always the same in many of its aspects, and yet
always new. It is untiring in its eflbrts, and un-
impeded in its career. We look for it every day
with an unwavering confidence, with an almost
absolute certainty. Power and freshness are its
principal characteristics ; and with these it com-
bines a healthy tone, a fearless courage, and an
invincible determination. That it has its imper-
fections, we do not deny— and what agency i»
334
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[No. 206.
without them ? It is not free from error, md no
estate of the realm can be. The purity of the
public press will be increased as Christianity ad-
yances. There is no nation in the world which
can boast of a press so moral, and so just, as the
daily newspaper press of Great Britain. The vic-
tories it achieves are seen and felt by all : and
when compared with the newspaper press of other
countries, it has superior claims to our admiration
and re«ird.
Takmg The Times as the highest type of that
class of newspapers which we denominate the daily
?ress, these remarks will more particularly apply.
*he history of such a paper, and its wonderful
career, is not sufficiently known, and its great
commercial and intellectual power not adequately
estimated. The extinction of such a journal (could
we suppose such a thing) would be a public
calamity. Its vast influence is felt throughout
the civilised world ; and we believe that influence,
generally speaking, is on the side of ri^ht, and for
Sie promotion of the common weal. It is strange
that such an organ of public sentiment should have
been charged with the moral turpitude of receiv-
ing bribes. That it should destroy its reputation,
darken its fair fame, and undermine the very
foundation of its prosperity, by a course so de-
grading, we find it impossible to believe. We feel
assured it is far removed from everything of the
kind : that its course is marked by great honesty
of purpose, and its exalted aim will never allow it
to stoop to anything so beneath the dignity of its
character, and so repugnant to every sense of rec-
titude and propriety. It is no presumption to
assert that, under such overt influences, it remains
unmoved and immovable ; and to reiterate a re-
mark made in the former part of this article, " its
independency can never be bribed, or its patron-
age won by unlawful means." Looking at it in
its colossal strength, and with its omnipotent
power (for truth is omnipotent), it may be classed,
without any impropriety, among the wonders of
the world.
Allow me to give to the readers of " N. & Q."
the following facts in connexion with The Times^
and on the subject of newspapers generally. They
are deserving of a place in your valuable journal.
There were sold of The Times on Nov. 19, 1852,
containing an account of the Duke of Wellington's
funeral, 70,000 copies : these were worked off at
the rate of from 10,000 to 12,000 an hour. The
Times of Jan. 10, 1806, with an account of the
funeral of Lord Nelson, is a small paper com-
pared with The Times of the present day. Its size
is nineteen inches by thirteen : having about eighty
advertisements, and occupying, with woodcuts of
the coffin and funeral car, a space of fifteen inches
by nine. Nearly fifty years have elapsed since
then, and now the same paper frequently publishes
a double supplement, which^ with the paper itself,
contains the large number of about 1,700 adver-
tisements.* 54,000 copies of The Times were sold
when the Royal Excnange was opened by the
Queen ; 44,500 at the close of Rush's trial. In .
1828, the circulation of The Times was under
7,000 a day ; now its average circulation is about
42,000 a day, or 12,000,000 annually, t The gross
proceeds of The Times, in 1828, was about 45,000/.
a year : and, from an article which appeared twelve
months ago in its columns, it now enjoys a gross
income equal to that of a flourishing German
principality.
We believe we are correct when we assert, that
there were sold of the Illustrated London Netos^
with a narrative of the Duke's funeral (a double
number), 400,000 copies. One newsman is said to
have taken 1000 quires double number, or 2000
quires single number : making 27,000 double
papers, or 54,000 single papers (twenty-seven
papers being the number to a quire), and for
which he must have paid 1075H It is a remark-
able fact, that Manchester, with a population of
400,000, has but three newspapers; Liverpo<^
with 367,000, eleven; Glasgow, with 390,000,
sixteen; Dublin, with but 200,000, no less than
twenty-two. The largest paper ever known was
published some years ago by Brother Jonathan,
and called the Boston Notion. The head letters
stand two inches high ; the sheet measures five
feet ten inches by four feet one inch, being about
twenty-four square feet ; it is a double sheet, with
ten columns in each page ; making in all eighty
columns, containing 1,000,000 letters, and sold
for S^d, In the good old times, one of the earliest
provincial newspapers in the southern part of the
kingdom was printed by a man named Mogridge,
who used to insert the intelligence from Yorkshire
under the head " Foreign News."
It b curious to search a file of old newspapers.
It is seldom we have the opportunity of doing so,
because we rarely preserve them in consecutive
order. It is easy to keep them, and would repay
the trouble, and their value would increase as
years rolled on. Such reading would be very in-
teresting, and more so than we can at all imagine.
It is a history of every day, and a record of a
people's sayings and doings. It throws us back
on the past, and makes forgotten times live again.
Some of the early volumes of The THmes news-
paper, for instance, would be a curiosity in their
* The largest number of advertisements in one
paper with a double supplement was in June last,
2,250.
f The quantity of paper used for The Times with a
single supplement is 126 reams, each ream weighing
92 lbs., or 7 tons weight c^ paper; with a double sup*
plement, 168 reams.
I During the week of the Duke*s funeral, there
were issued by the Stamp Office to the newspaper
press more than 2,000,000 of stamps.
Oct. 8. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
335
way. We should read them with special interest,
as reflecting the character of the age in which
they appeared, and as belonging to a series exer-
cising a mighty influence in moulding and guiding
the commercial and political opinions of this great
nation. The preservation of a newspaper, if it be
but a weekly one, will become a source of instruc-
tion and amusement to our descendants in gene-
rations to come. H. M. BEAiiBT.
North Brixton.
{(
IN QUIETNESS AND CONFIDENCE SHALL BE TOUB
STBENGTH.
»♦
There is an old house in the "Dom Platz," at
Frankfort, in which Luther lived for some years.
A bust of him in relief is let into the outer wall ;
it is a grim- looking ungainly ef^gy, coarsely
coloured, and of very small pretensions as a work
of art; but evidently of a date not much later
than the time of the great Iconoclast. Round the
figure, the following words are deeply cut : " In
silentio et in spe, erit fortitude vestra. ' Can any
of your readers tell me whether any particular cir-
cumstance of Luther*s life led him to adopt this
motto, or otherwise identified it with his name ;
or whether the text was merely selected by some
admirer after his death, to garnish this memorial ?
In either case it is not uninteresting to notice,
that this passage of Scripture has been employed
more than any other as the watchword of that
religious movement in the English Church which
we are accustomed to associate with Oxford and
the year 1833. It forms the motto on the title-
page of the Christian Year; it has been very
conspicuous in the writings of many eminent de-
fenders of the same school of theology ; and it is
thus alluded to by Dr. Pusey in the preface to
that celebrated sermon on the Eucharist, for which
he received the University censure :
*< Since I can now speak in no other manner, I may
in this way utter one word to the young, to whom I
have heretofore spoken from a more solemn place ; I
would remind them how almost prophetically, sixteen
years ago, in the volume which was the unknown
dawn and harbinger of the re-awakening of deeper
truth, this was given as the watchword to those who
should love the truth, ' In quietness and confidence
shall be your strength.' There have been manifold
tokens that patience is the one great grace which God
is now calling forth in our church," &c.
I will not here inquire which of the two great
religious revolutions I have mentioned has been
more truly characterised by the spirit of this
beautiful and striking text, but perhaps some of
your readers will agree with me in thinking that
the coincidence is at least a note-wortRy one ; and
not the less so, because it was probably unde-
signed. Joshua G. Fitch.
BINDESS OF THE YOLUMSS IN THE HASLSIAN
LIBBABY.
In Dr. Dibdin*s Bibliographical Decameron^
1817, vol. ii. p. 503., he thus introduces the sub-
ject:
" The commencement of the eighteenth century saw
the rise and progress of the rival libraries of Harley
and Sunderland. What a field, therefore, was here for
the display of the bibliopegistic art ! Harley usually
preferred red morocco, with a broad border of gold, and
the fore-edges of the leaves without colour or gilt.
Generally speaking, the Harleian volumes are most
respectably bound ; but they have little variety, and the
style of art which they generally exhibit rather belongs
to works of devotion."
In a note on the above passage, Dibdin adds :
** I have often consulted my bibliomaniacal friends
respecting the name of the binder or binders of the
Harleian Library. Had Bagford or Wanley the chief
direction ? I suspect the latter*^
If Dr. Dibdin and his " bibliomaniacal friends **
had not preferred the easy labour of looking at
printed title-pages to the rather more laborious
task of examining manuscripts, they might readily
have solved the Query thus raised by referring
to Wanley's Autograph Diary^ preserved in the
Lansdowne Collection, Nos. 771, 772, which proveft
that the binders employed by Lord Oxford were
Christopher Chapman of Duck Lane, and Thomas
Elliot. Very many entries occur between Ja-
nuary 1719-20 and May 1726, relative to the
binding both of manuscripts and books in mo*
rocco and calf; and it appears, in regard to the
former material, that it was supplied by Lord
Oxford himself. Some of these entries will show
the jealous care exercised by honest Humphrey
Wanley over the charge committed to him.
" 25th January, 1 719-20. This day having inspected-
Mr. Elliot's bill, I found him exceedingly dear in all
the work of Morocco, Turkey, and Russia leather,
besides that of velvet.
" 28th January, . Mr. Elliot the bookbinder
came, to whom I produced the observations I made
upon his last bill, showing him that (without catching
at every little matter) my Lord might have had the-
same work done as well and cheaper, by above SlU
He said that he could have saved above eight pounds-
in the fine books, and yet they should have looked
well. That he now cannot do them so cheap as be
rated them at ; that no man can do so well as himself^
or near the rates I set against his. But, upon the
whole, said he would write to my Lord upon the
subject.
"13th July, 1721. Mr. Elliot having clothed the
CODEX AVREvs in my Lord's Morocco leather, took the
same from hence this day, in order to work upon it
with his best tools ; which, be says, he can do with
much more conveniency at his house than here.
" 19th January, 1721-22. Mr. Chapman came, and
received three books for present binding. And upon
KOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 206.
fail reqaeit I delivered {by order) si< Morocro skins to
b« used in raj Lord') atrriet. He deairei to hate
them At > cheap price, and to bind at befoTe. I uy
that my Lord will not turn Icatliei-seller, and there-
fore he must bring hither hii propofals for binding with
mj Lord's Morocco sbini j otheiwise his Lotdihip will
appoint aome other binder to do so.
"17th September, 1725. Mr. Elliot brouglit the
parcel I last delirered unto him, but toolt one bacit to
amend a blunder in the lettering. He said that he
hn used my Lord's doe-skin upon sii books, and that
the; may serie instead of calf; only the grain is
eoarser. like ttiat of sheep, and this skin was tanned
too much.
"23rd December, IT25. Mr. Chapman came, but I
my Lord's former business, wliiuh lie had frequently
postponed, that he might serve the bookselleis ilie
In the niary of T. Moore I lately read, with
aome surprise, the folloiriiig passages :
•' Attended watchfully to her [Mdlle Duchesnois]
TCoitative, and find that in nine •vraes out of ten ■ A
cobbler there was, and he lived in ■ stall' is the tune
of the French heroics." — April £4, 18S1.
" Two lines I met in Athalic ; how else than accord-
ing to the ' Cobbler there was,' Sic, can they be re-
peated ?
' N'a pour servlr sa cause et lenger ses injures,
Ni le cceur assei droit, ni las mains assec pures.' "
May 30, 1S2I.
Now, if this be the mode of reading these lines,
I confess all my ideas are crroueous with respect
to French poetry. I have alwajs considered that
though liemisticlis and occasionally whole lines
occur in it, which bear a resemblance to the
Spanish Versos de ArLe Mayor, the anapsstiu
measure of "A Cobbler" is quite forekn to it.
I may, however, be mistaken ; and it is in the
hope of elifiiting information on the subject that I
aend these few remarks to " N. & Q." Should it
appear that I am not wrong, I will on a. future
occasion endeavour to develop my ideas of the
French rhythm ; a subject that I cannot recollect
to have seen treated in a satisfactory manner in
any French work.
Bishop Tegner, the poet of Sweden, seems nlso
to have differed in opinion with Moore respectitiB
the rhythm of French poetry, for he compares it
to the dancing of a deaf man, who forms bis steps
accurately, but who does not keep time. Both
are alike mistaken, in my opinion ; and their error
arises from their judging French poeti'y by rules
that are foreign to it. The rhythm of French
verse Is peculiar, and differs from that of any other
language. Thos. Kbigbtlet.
Though not much a frequenter of theatres of
late, I WBI recently induced, by tha ffourishiag
Sblic annoancemeula, to go to Drury Lane
catrc ; with the chance, but scarcely in the
hope, of seeing what I never yet have seen, a per-
fect Othello. Alas ! echo still answers never yet.
But yours are not the pages for dramatic criticism.
As my bill lay before me, I could not help
thinking what an execrably bad taste our modem
managers show in the extravagant and ridiculous
announcement of the splendour of the itar you
come to contemplate ! If Mr. Brooke have great
merit, he needs not all this sound of trumpets; if
he have it not, he is only rendered the more con-
temptible by it. I have some of the play-bills of
John Kemble's last performances before me, and
there is none of thin fustian ; the fact, the per-
formance, and the name are simply announced.
If our taste improves in some respects, it does not
in this; it is a retrogression — a royal theatre
sinking back into the booth of a fwr. Shak-
speare's and Ryron'a texts have been converted
into the showman's explanations of panoramas : to
what vile uses they may be next applied, there is
no guessing. Poor Sliakspearc ! bow I have pitied
him, and you too, Mr. Editor, as I have seen Iiiin
for so many months undergoing the operation of
the teazle in "¥!. & Q. !" I hope there will be
soon an end of this "skimble stuff," "signifying
nothing."
But my observation upon the Drury Lane play-
bill reminded me of one I have in my common-
place book ; and, as a correspondent and reader of
" N. & Q,," I tliink it my duty to send it :
A Spaniih I^ny-bill, eihtbiled at SeeiUi, 1762,
" To the Sovereign of Heaven— to the Mather of the
Eternal World — to the Polar Stnr of Spain — to the
Comforter of all Spain — to the faithful Protectress of
the Spanish Nation- to the Honour and Glory of the
Most Holy Virgin Mary -for her beneEt, and for the
Propagation of her Worship — the company of Come-
dians will this day give a representation of the Comis
Piece called —
Tlie celebrated Italian will also dance the Fandango,
and the Theatre will be respectably illuminated."
SH^ESPE&BB COBBESFOSDBHCB.
TTie Meteorology of Skaiipeare. — A (rentiae
might be written on meteorology, and might
be illustrated entirely by passages taken from
the writings of " the world's greatest poet,"
" N, & Q." may not be the fitting medium for a
lengthened treatise, but it is the most proper de-
pository of a few loose Notes on the subject.
Oct. 8. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
337
Those who stud/ Shakspeare should, to under-
stand him, thoroughly study Nature at the same
time : but to our meteorology. Kecent observers
have classified clouds as under :
Howard's Latin
Nomenclature.
Foster's English
Names.
Local Names.
Cumulus.
Cirrus.
Stratus.
Nimbus.
Stackencloud.
Curlcloud.
Fallcloud.
Raincloud.
Woolbag,
Goatshair, Grey
Marestails.
There are composite forms of cloud, varieties of
the above, which need not be noticed here. The
Cumulus is the parent cloud, and produces every
other form of cloud known, or which can exist.
Mountain ranges and currents of air of unequal
temperatures may produce visible vapour, but not
true cloud.
Cumulus. This cloud is always formed at " the
dew point." The vapour of the lower atmosphere,
at this elevation, is condensed, or rendered visible.
In fog the dew point is at the surface of the earth ;
in summer it may be several thousands of feet
above. The Cumulus cloud forms from below.
The invisible vapour of the lower atmosphere is
condensed, parts with its thousand degrees of
latent heat, which rush upwards, forcing the va-
pour into the vast hemispherical heaps of snowy,
glittering clouds, which, seen in midday, appear
huge mountains of clouds ; the " cloud-land " of
the poet, floating in liquid air. The Cumulus
cloud is ever changing in form. Cumulating
from a level base, the top is mounting higher and
higher, until the excessive moisture is precipitated
in heavy rain, hail, or thunder showers.
The tops of the Cumulus, carried away by the
upper equatorial currents, form the Cirrus clouds,
which clouds must be frozen vapour, as they are
generally from twenty to thirty thousand feet
above the level of the sea. The base of the Cu-
mulus is probably never more, in England, than
five thousand feet high, rarely this. The Nimbus is
the Cumulus shedding its vapour in rain ; and the
Stratus is the partially exhausted and fading Nimbus.
Poets in all ages have watched the clouds with
interest ; and Shakspeare has not only correctly
described them, but has, in metaphor, used them
in some of his sublimest passages. Ariel will
" ride on the curled clouds" to Prosperous *^strong
bidding task ;" that is, ride on the highest Cirrus
cloud, m regions impassable to man. How admir-
ably the raming Cumulus (Nimbus cloud) is de-
scribed in the same play ;
" Trinculo, Here's neither bush • nor shrub, to bear
off any weather at all, and another storm brewing. I
• Bu8?i, not brush, as misprinted in Knight*s edition.
hear it sing i* the wind : yond* same black cloud, yond*
huge one, looks like a foul'*' bumbard that would shed
bis liquor ....
* * * * Yond* same cloud cannot choose but fall
by pailfuls.**
Hamlet points to a changing Cumulus cloud,
when he says to Polonius, "Do you see that cloud,
that almost in shape like a camel ? "
" Pol, By the mass, and *tis like a camel, indeed.
Ham. Methinks it is like a weasel.
PoL It is back'd like a weasel.
Ham, Or like a whale ?
Pol. Very like a whale."
But the finest cloud passage in the whole range
of literature is contained in Antony and Cleopatra,
painting, as it does, the fallen and wasting state of
the emperor (Act IV. Sc. 12.) :
" Ant. Eros, thou yet behold*st me ?
Eros. Ay, noble lord !
Ant. Sometime we see a cloud that's dragonish :
A vapour, sometime, like a bear, or lion,
A tower'd citadel, a pendant rock,
A forked mountain, or blue promontory
With trees upon't, that nod unto the world,
And mock our eyes with air. Thou hast seen these
signs :
They are black vesper's pageants.
Eros. Ay, my lord.
A/it. That which is now a horse, even with a thought.
The rack dislimns ; and makes it indistinct,
As water is in water.
Eros. It does, my lord.
Ant. My good knave, Eros, now thy captain is
Even such a body : here I am Antony ;
Yet cannot hold this visible shape, my knave."
Those who wish to understand this sublime pas-
sage must watch a bank of Cumulus clouds at the
western sky on a summer s evening. The tops of
the clouds must not be more than five or ten de-
grees above the apparent horizon. There must
also be a clear space upwards, and the sun fairly
set to the last stages of twilight. It will then be
comprehended as to what is meant by "black
vesper's pageants," and Warton and Knight will
no more mislead by their note. It is only at
" black vespers " that such a pageant can be seen,
when the liberated heat of the Cumulus cloud is
forcing the vapour into the grand or fantastic
shapes indicated to the poet*s eye and mind.
How truly does Antony read his own condition
in the changing and perishable clouds. Shakspeare
names or alludes to the clouds in more than one
hundred passages, and the form of cloud i^ ever
correctly indicated. Who does not remember the
* Foul. Surely this ought to he full. A foul bum-
bard might be empty. " Foulness" and " shedding his
liquor " are not necessarily contingent ; but fulness
and overflowing are. A full vessel, shaken, cannot
choose ** but shed his liquor."
338
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 206.
passag^es in Romeo and Juliet f Much more might
oe written on this subject.
Robert Rawunson-
At*the Hull meeting of tbe British Association,
Mr. Russell, farmer, Kilwhiss, Fife, read a paper
on " The Action of the Winds which veer from the
South-west to West, and North-west to North."
This he wound up by a reference to Shakspeare,
which may be worthy of noting :
"In concluding, J cannot help remarking: that this
circuit of the wind from SW. by W. to NW. or N.,
from our insular position, imparts to our climate its
fickleness and inconstancy. How often will our
brightest sky become suffused by the blackest vapours
on the slightest breach of SW. wind, and the clouds
will then disappear as speedily as they formed, when
the NW. upper current forces their stratum of moist
air to rise and mingle with the dryer current above.
I do not know who first noticed and recorded this
change of the wind from SW. to NW., but the re-
gularity of the phenomenon must teach us that the
law which it obeys is part of a grand system, and in-
vites us to trace its action. I do not think it will be
out of place to point out the fact that the great English
poet seems to have been quite familiar with this feature
of our weather, not only in its most striking manifest-
ations in the autumn and winter months, to which he
especially refers, but even in its more pleasant aspects
of summer. Shakspeare likens the wind in this shift-
ing to an individual who pays his addresses in succes-
sion to two fair ones — first he wooes the North, but in
courting that frigid beauty a difference takes place,
whereupon he turns his back upon her and courts the
fair South. You will observe the lines are specially
■applied to the winter season —
' And more inconstant than the wind, who wooes
Even now the frozen bosom of the north.
And, being angered, puffs away from thence.
Turning this /ace to the dew-dropping south.*
— I am not aware that the philosophic truths contained
in these lines has ever before been pointed out The
beautiful lines which the poet, in his prodigality, put
into the mouth of one of hb gay frolicsome characters,
the meaning of them he no doubt thought might have
been understood by every one ; but his commentators
do not seem to have done so. In some editions turning
his tide has been put for /ace, which is feeble and un-
meaning. And I do not think the recent emendation
by Mr. Collier on the text is any improvement, where
tiit is substituted for Jace, which impairs both the
beauty and harmony of the meti^hor."
Akon.
A Word for ^^ the Old Corrector,^ — Allow me, as
an avowed enemy to " the Old Corrector's" novel-
ties, to render " the Great Unknown " one act of
justice. I am convinced there are but two prac-
tically possible hypotheses, on which to account
for the MS. emenaations : either the emendations
were for the most part made from some authori-
tative document, or they are parts of a modem
fabrication. No third supposition'can be reason-
ably maintained. Mb. Knight's view, for ex-
ample, gives no account of the immense number of
coincidences with the conjectural emendations of
the commentators. Whichever of the two hypo-
theses be the true one, I need hardly say that
Ms. CoLLiEB*s name is a sufficient guarantee for
all honorable dealing, so far as he is connected
with the MS. corrections.
Permit me farther to do an act of justice to
Mb. Collibb himself. In my note on a passage
in The Tempest, I stated that Mb. Collieb had
overlooked a parallel passage in Richard II, It
was I who had overlooked Mb. Collieb's supple-
mental note. However, I must add, that how
Mb. Collieb could persuade himself to print heat
for ** cheek,** in his " monovolume edition," after
he had seen the passage in Richard II., is utterly
beyond my power of comprehension.
C. Mansfield Inglbbt.
Birmingham.
fSiixiax ^AttH.
Injustice, its Origin. — In looking through • file
of papers a few days since, I met with the follow-
ing as being the origin of this term, and would
ask if it is correct ?
" When Nushervan the Just was out on a hunting
excursion, his companions, on his becoming fatigued,
recommended him to rest, while they should prepare
him some food. There being no salt, a slave was
dispatched to the nearest village to bring some. But
as he was going, Nushervan said, ' Pay for the salt yoa
take, in order that it may not beconoe a custom to rob,
and the village ruined.' They said, < What harm will
this little quantity do ? ' He replied, * Tbe ort^n of in"
justice in the world was at first small, but every one
that came added to it, until it reached its present
magnitude.' **
w.w.
Malta.
TiDo Brothers of the same Christian Name, —
An instance of this occurs in the family of Croft
of Croft Castle. William Croft, Esq., of Croft
Castle, had issue Sir Richard Croft, Knight, his
son and heir, the celebrated soldier in the wars of
the Roses, and Richard Croft, Esq., second son,
^who, by the description of Richard Croft the
Younger, received a grant of lands ** in 146] . (Ae-
trospective Review, 2ud Series, vol. i. p. 472.)
Tbwabs.
Female Parish Clerk. — In the parish register
of Totteridge appears the following :
" 1802, March 2. Buried, Elizabeth King, widow,
for forty-six years clerk of this parish, in the ninety-
first year of her age.**— ^icrii on Parish Registers, llO.
Is there any similar instance on record of a
woman being a parish clerk ? Y. S. M.
Oct. 8. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
339
DESCENDANTS OF MILTON.
It is well known that the issue of the poet became
extinct in 1754, unless they survived in the de-
scendants of Caleb Clarke, the only son of Milton's
third daughter, Deborah. Caleb Clarke went out
to Madras, and was parish clerk at Fort St. George
from 1717 to 1719. In addition to a daughter, who
died in infancy, he had two sons, Abraham and
Isaac ; of neither of whom is anything known, ex-
cept that the former married a person of the same
surname as himself; and had a daughter Mary,
baptized in 1727. Sir James Mackintosh made
some ineffectual attempts to trace them, and came
to the conclusion that they had migrated to some
other part of India.
I am perhaps catching at a straw : but it is pos-
sible there may be something more than a coinci-
dence in the name of Milton Clark, who is spoken
of in the fourth chapter of the Key to Uncle Tom's
Cabin as brother to Lewis Clark, the original of
the character of George Harris. Perhaps some of
your transatlantic friends can inform us :
1st. Whether there is, or has been, in use any
system of assigning names to slaves, which would
account for their bearing the Christian and sur-
name of their owners or other free men, and thus
lead to the inference that there has been some free
man of the name of Milton Clark.
2nd. Whether there is any family in America
of the name of Clark, in which Milton, or even
Abraham or Isaac, is known to have been adopted
as a Christian name ; and, if so, whether there is
any tradition in the family of migration from
India. J. F. M.
AN ANXIOUS QUEBT TBOM THE HTMMAI1ATA8.
I was honoured, a few days ago, with a com-
munication from India, which contains a Query
that is out of my power to answer. But being
very solicitous to do my best towards affording
the desired information, I bethought myself of
sending the letter, in extenso, for insertion in your
very valuable and exceedingly useful miscellany.
I venture to think that you will agree with me,
that the interesting nature of the communication
entitles it to a place in " N. & Q." As the letter
speaks for itself, I shall say no more about it, but
proceed to transcribe the greatest part of it at
once.
*<Landour Academy, May 26th, 1853.
" Rev. M. Margoliouth,
** Sir, — I do not know in what terms to apolo-
gise to you for this communication, especially as
it may entail trouble on you, which can result in
my advantage alone.
"I am a Jew, believing that Jesus is the
Messiah; and I trust this will induce you to
assist me in my search after some of my relations,
whom I believe to be in England.
" I wrote to Dr. Adler, Chief Kabbi of the
Jews in England, some years ago, but his inform-
ation was limited to some distant connexions, the
Davises, Isaacs, and Lewises, who still professed
Judaism. Subsequent inquiries discovered two
uncles of mine, Charles Lewes and Mordan Lewes,
in London, who informed me that my grandfather,
Isaac Levi, was for ten years a clergyman of the
Church of England, and had a congregation at
Lynn, in Norfolk, and that he had published a
tract against Judaism. Beyond this I can get no
farther information : my uncles are either too
poor or unwilling to prosecute their inquiries any
farther. Could you ascertain for me whether my
grandfather left any family, and if any member is
still alive ? My object is to discover their exist-
ence, and to renew a correspondence which has
been interrupted for more than forty years.
" I am the grandson of Isaac Levi, for many
years dead, reader of a con^egation of Jews in
London; my father, Benjamm Levi, is still alive,
and is with me. I keep a school at Landour, in
the Hymmalayas, in the north-western provinces
of India. I have been led to write to you after
reading your Pilgrimage to Hie Land of My Fathers^
and seeing in it that you are the author of a work
entitled The Jews in Great Britain, which I have
not seen, and concluding from this that if any one
can obtain information you can.
^^ I send this letter to Messrs. Smith and Elder,
booksellers, of Cornhill, London, with a request
to send it to you through your publisher, Mr, R.
Bentley," &c. &c.
I do not feel justified in publishing the la^t two
paragraphs in my correspondent's letter, and have
therefore omitted them. I shall feel extremely
obliged to any of the readers of " N. & Q.'* who
could and would help me to answer the anxious
Query from the Hymmalayas. M. M.
Wybunbury, Nantwich.
Minax ^wtxiti*
" De la Schola de Sclavoni'' — On a large marble
slab at North Stoneham, near Southampton, is the
following inscription :
«* Ano Dni mcccclxxxxi Sepvltvra de la Schola de
Sclavoni."
Is this the burial-place of the family of one of
the foreign merchants settled in this country, and
can any of the correspondents of " N. & Q." give
any information about it ? John S. Bdbn.
Mineral Acids.^As it is generally supposed that
these powerful solvents were not known anterior
to circiter a. d. 1100, 1 should be glad to learn what
opinion is entertained by the learned conoerniBg
340
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 206.
tbe death of the prophet Hokcn al Mokannah.
This person is said to have disappeared in 785, or
163 of the Hejrah, by casting himself into a
barrel of cprroiive fluids, which dissolved his
body. Is it not the best supposition, that this
story was supposed by Khondemir and others, in
more advanced ages of science, to account for the
fact of hii having disappe:ired, and of his real
fate having never been ascertained? I have
never seen this apparent anticipation of chemical
discoveries animadverted on. A. N.
Richard Geering, — Wanted, arms, pedigree,
and particulars of the family of Richard Geering,
one of the six clerks in Chancery in Ireland from
March 1700 to April 1735. One of his daughters,
Prudence, married, in 1722, Charles Coote, Esq.,
M.P., and by him was mother of the last Earl of
Bellamont. Another daughter, Susannah, was
wife of Mr. Charles Wilson ; who was, it is be-
lieved, a connexion of the family of Ward of
Newport, in Shropshire. Any information about
Mr. Wilson's ancestry would be very acceptable.
Y. S. M.
Stipendiary Curates. — What is the earliest
mention of stipendiary curates in our ecclesiastical
establishment ? And what other national churches
have priests placed in a corresponding position ?
Berosus.
Our Lady of RowicevaL — Can you or any of
your correspondents furnish me with particulars
of our Lady of Rounceval ? A. J. Dunkin.
Rodents Colt, — A lady of a certain age is said
in common parlance to be "Forty, save one, the
age of Roden*s colt." What can Nimrod tell us
touching this proverbialised animal ?
R. C. Wabde.
Kidderminster.
Sir Ch?'istopher Wren and the Yotm^ Carver,
— ' A reader has a floating notion in his head of
having once read in the Literary Gazette a strange
story of a country boy going to town to seek em-
ployment as a carver or sculptor ; of his being
accosted by Sir Christopher Wren, and offering to
carve for him a sow and pigs, &c. Can any. cor-
respondent have pity on him, and tell him where
to find the tale ? A. H.
Vellum Cleaning, — Are there not preparations
in use for cleaning the backs of old vellum-bound
books without destroying the polish ? How made,
or where procurable ? J. F. M.
Dionysia in Bceotia, — Can any of your readers
refer me to a passage in any ancient author in
which this supposed town is mentioned ?
Dumersan refers to Diodorus Siculus as his au-
thority for its existence^ but my search in that
author has been vain, and I am not alone in that
respect. Augustus Langdon.
Bloomsbury.
Poa Tax in 1641. — I find in Somers' Ti-adSf,
2nd ed. vol. iv. p. 298. :
** Tlie copy of an order agreed upon in the House of
Commons upon Friday, 1 8th June, wherein every man
is rated according to his estate, for the king's use.*'
Is there on record the return made to this order ;
and where may it be consulted ? Tewars.
Thomas Chester, Bishop of JElphiii, 1580. —
This prelate, who was tlie second son of Sir
William Chester, Kt., Lord Mayor of London
in 1560, by hia^ .first wife Elizabeth, daughter of
Thomas Lovett, Esq., of Astwell in Northampton-
shire, is said by Anthony it Wood {Athencs Oxon.,
ed. Bliss, vol. ii. p. 826.) to have " given way to
fate at Killiathar in that city, in the month of
June in 1584." The calendars of the Will Office
of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury do not
contain his name ; can any of your Irish contri-
butors inform me whether his will was proved in
Ireland ? I should be glad to know, too, what
will offices exist in Ireland, and from what period
they date their commencement. He is said to
have married , daughter of Sir James Cla-
vering, Kt., of Ax well Park in Northumberland :
does any pedigree of the Claverings supply tliis
lady's Christian name ? His eldest brother, Wil-
liam Chester, Esq., married his cousin-german
Judith, daughter and co-heiress of Anthony Cave,
Esq., of Chichley Hall, Bucks, and was ancestor
to the extinct family of the baronets of that name
and place. Bishop Chester died s, p, Tewabs^
Rev, Urban Vigors. — Amongst the chaplains of
King Charles I., was there one of the name of
Vigors, the Rev. Urban Vigors of Taunton ? Any
particulars of him will be acceptable. Y. S. M.
Early English ilfiS^.— -What is the earliest
document, of any historical import to this country,
now existing in MS. ? T. Hughes;
Curing of Henry IV. — The best account of the
curing of Hen. IV. from the leprosy : vide Lam-
bard's Dictionary, p. 306. A. J. Dumkin.
Standard of Weights and Measures. — I would
gladly learn something of the system of weights
and measures in other countries, and particularly
whether in England and America there exists
for this object any government inspection ; and if
so, how this is executed P A list of works on this
subject would be most welcome. I am acquainted
only with the works of Ravon, Fabrication de*
Poids et Mesures, Paris, 1843, and of Tarb^, Poids,
Mesures et Virification, both found in the Bn-
cyclopSdie Roret) and the Vollstandige Darstellung
Oct. 8. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
341
des Masz' und Gewicht- Systems in Grossherzog-
thum Hessen, by F. W. Grimm, Darmstadt, 1840.
— From the Navorscher, *. *.
Parish Clerks* Company. —
" In making searches in registers of parishes within
the bills of mortality, a facility is afforded by the com-
pany of parish clerks ; by paying a fee of about two
guineas, a circular is sent to all the parish clerks, with
the particulars of information required : the registers
are accordingly searched, and the result communicated
to the clerk of the company."
The above I give from Burn's History of Parish
Registers^ p. 217. note, published in 1829. Is this
the case at present ; and if so, what is the direc-
tion of the clerk of the Company ? I wish this
system existed in Oxford. Y. S. M.
Orange Blossom, — Can any reader of " N. & Q."
inform me why the flowers of the orange blossom
are so universally used in the dress of a bride ?
and from what date they have been so used ?
Augusta.
Mr, Pepys his Queries, — I cannot say that I
Kiet with Pepys as Fielding did Shakspeare, in a
Journey from this World to the next; but I met
with seven of his Queries among the Rawlinson
MSS. in the Bodleian, addressed to Sir William
Dugdale, a name dear to all orthodox antiquaries.
It would appear the Secretary to the Admiralty
felt the want of a " medium of inter-communi-
cation " in his day. Here are his Queries :
1. Whether any foreigners are to be found in
our list of English admirals ?
2. The reason or account to be given of the
place assigned to our admirals in the Act of Pre-
cedence ?
3. Whether any of the considerable families of
our nobility or gentry have been raised by the
sea?
4. Some instances of the greatest ransoms here-
tofore set upon prisoners of greatest quality.
5. The descent and posterity of Sir Francis
Drake ; and what estate is now in the possession
of any of his family derived from him.
6. Who Sir Anthony Ashby was ?
7. What are and have been generally the pro-
fessions, trades, or qualifications, civil or military,
that have and do generally raise families in Eng-
land to wealth and honour in Church and State r
J. Yeowell.
50. Burton Street
Foreign Medical Education, — Can any con-
tributor direct me to any sources of information
on the regulations concerning medical instruction
and medical degrees in the principal universities
on the Continent ? Medicus.
Chandler, Bishop of Durham, — Lord Dover, in
the second volume of his edition of Walpole's
Letters to Sir Horace Mawi, p. 373., in a note,
thus speaks of this prelate :
** A learned prelate and author of various polemical
works, he bad been raised to the see of Durham in
1 730, as it was then said, by symoniacal means.**
Can any of your readers inform me where I can
obtain evidence of the symoniacal means by which
it is said this bishop obtained the bishopric of
Durham ? One would scarcely think so cautious
a man as Lord Dover would refer to the impu-
tation, without some evidence on which his lord-
ship could rely.
Mr. Surtees, in his History of the Bishops of
Durham^ makes no allusion to the symoniacal
means by which Chandler obtained his promotion
to the see of Durham. He gives a list of the
bishop*s printed works, amongst which is a " charge
to the grand jury of Durham concerning engross-
ing of corn, &c., 1740.** Can jou, or any of your
readers, inform me where this pamphlet is to be
met with ? For I am curious to know how a
bishop could make a charge to a grand jury.
There must surely be some mistake in the title of
the pamphlet. Fka. Mewbubn.
Darlington.
[The charge of simony is loosely noticed by Shaw
in his History of Staffordshire, vol. i. p. 278. He says,
** Edward Chandler was translated from Lichfield and
Coventry to Durham in 1730 ; and it was then publicly
said that he gave 9000Z. for that opulent see.** To this
Chalmers, in his Biog. Did,, adds, ** which is scarcely
credible.** The Charge by the bishop is in the British
Museum : it is entitled, " A Charge delivered to the
Grand Jury at the Quarter* Sessions held at Durham,
July 16, 1740, concerning engrossing of corn and grain,
and the riots that have been occasioned thereby.** 4to.»
Durham.]
Huggins and Muggins, — Can any of your
readers assign the origin of this jocular appella-
tion ? I would hazard the conjecture, that it
may be a corruption of Hogen Mogen, High
Mightinesses, the style, I believe, of the States-
General of Holland ; and that it probably became
an expression of contempt in the mouths of the
Jacobites for the followers of William III., from
whence it has passed to a more general application.
F. K»
Bath.
[Hugger-mugger, says Dr. Richardson, is the com-
mon way of writing this word, from Udal to the present
time. No probable etymology) he adds, has yet been
given. Sir John Stoddart {Ency. Metropolitana, vol. i.
p. 120.5 has given a long article on this word, which
concludes with the following remarks : — " The last ety-
mology that we shall mention is from the Dutch title^
342
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 206.
Hoog Moogtmdt (High MightineMes), pirn Xo the
Sutes- General, tad much ridiculed by some of our
English vritcrai as in Hudibrat;
• But 1 have sent him for a token
To your Low.country, Hagen Mogtn.'
It bus been supposed that hugger-mugger, corrupted
from Hogm Mogm. was meant in derision of the secret
traniaet'Kins of their Mightinesses ; but it is probable
that the fornier word was knoirn in English before the
Utter; and upon the whole it seems most probable that
hugger is a mere intenaitiTC form of /tug, and that mjr-
^er is a reduplicalion of sound with a Blight variation,
vbiefa is so commoa In cases of this Lind.'O
BaMerilash. — Whftt is tlie meanine and the
etymology of "balderdash F " W. FaAfom.
Tor.MohuD.
[Skinner suggests the following etymology i " Bit-
DKuiisH, ;»(« miztiu, credo ab A.-S. bald, i-a^\,ialder,
audador Tel audscius, et nostra daihi niitere, q. d. potuM
Umere mixtui." Dr. Jnmieson explains it as " foolish
and noisy talk. Islandie, ImMur, stullomm balbnlles."
Dr. Ogiliie, howerer, has queried its derivation from
the " ^nish balda, a trifle, or baldmar, to insult with
■bu»Te language; Welsh. boUffri, to prattle. Mean.
•easeless prate I a jai^u of wonJa; ribaldry; anything
jumbled together without judgmenL"]
Loveli, Sculptor. — What ia known of this
Mtiat? That he was in adTunce of the age he
flourished in is evinced by his beautifully ex-
ecuted engravings in Imvc'm Sacrifice (fd. Lond.
1652), which for delicacy of work are far beyond
my thing of the period. R. C. Wabdk.
Kidderminster.
[Ii tbe name Lovell, or Loisell? Sat we End that
Struttt In his Dictionary of Etigravtrt, vol' iL p. 1 01 .,
■peaks of " P. Loisell having affiled some ali^t etch-
ingi^ something In the style of Gaywood (If 1 mistake
not), to Benlove's TttapkUia, or Levt't Saaifiet."^
St. Werenfridand Butler's "Lives of the SainU."
— One of your correspondents will perhnpfl ex-
plain the cause of an omission in Butler's Lives of
the Sainla. The life of St. Werenfrid, whoae an-
niversary is the I4th of August, ia abatracted,
Tol. iii. p. 492. His name occurs in Ihe table of
contents ; and pages 493 and 494, where tbe life
ahonid hare appeared, are wanting ; atill page
49S follows 492 correclly in type, so that the
former must have been reprinted after tbe cas-
tration of the leaf. Was the saint deemed un-
worthy of the place which had been allotted to
him ? J, H. M.
[In the best edition of Butler's Liea (12 voh
1R1S--13), the life of St. Werenfrid is given oo Nov. '
He is honored in Holland on theI4tb of August; ai
his life appears In Britamiia Sancia on that day, bl
in the Bollandists on the SStli of August]
p. 40,, which I send, as it may tend to clear np
the question : "
" In the case of Sir WiTliam Hawkaworfh, related
by Baker in his CAnmitie of Iht Time tf Edmard IV.,
P.S23. (iiiiinna]4Tl), he being weary of hla lib, and
willing to be rid of it by another's hand, Uamed hla
parker for Bufieriag his deer to be destroyed ; and com-
manded him Chat he should sboot the iHit man that
he met in his paik that would not stand or speak. The
knight himself came in the night into the park j and
being met by tbe keeper, refused to stand or apeak.
The keeper shot and killed him, not knowing him to
be his master. This seems to be do felony, but ex-
cusable by the statute of Malefactorei in Parcii."
This account varies from Eitson's in the name
" Hawksworth " instead of "Haniford," and the
date 1471 instead of 1422. It seems plain that
Lord Hale had no idea that the person Miot was a
judge; and possibly the truth may be, that it was
a descendant of the judce that w«i shot. Even if
Hankford's death were m 1432, u lUted by Ris-
don, the traditional account that he caused hia
own death " in doubt of his safety" does not aeem
very probable, as Henry V. came to the throne
in 1412-13. Probably some of your reader* may
be able to clear up the matter,
I was at Harewood the other day, tmd examined
a tomb there alleged to be that of the C.-J. Gas-
coigne. In the centre of the west end of the tomb
is a shield ; first and fourth, fiye flenrs-de-lys
(France) ; second and third, three lions pawaot
^ardant (England). —May I ask how these anna
happen to be on this tomb ?
There are several other shields on the tomb,
but all are now undisticgnishable except one ;
which appears to be a bend impaling a saltire, as
far as I can make it out : the coloura are wholly
obliterated. The head of the figure has not a coif
on it, as I should have anticipated ; but a cap fit-
ting very close, and a bag is suspended from tbe
left arm. — Is it known for certain that this is
C.-J. Gascoigne's lomb ? S. G. C.
Harrogate.
Mr. Sansom need not hare been very mnch
surprised that I should have omitted noticing a
tradition concerning Sir William Hankford, when
I was merely rectif^ring an error with reference to
Sir William Gascoigne. That I hare not over-
looked entirely "the Deronshire tradition, which
represents Sir William Hankford to be the judge
Oct. 8. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
343
who committed Prince Henry," may be seen in
The Judges of England^ vol. iv. p. 324., wherein I
show the total improbability of the tale. And my
disbelief in the story of Hankford*s death, and its
more probable application to Sir Robert Danby,
is already noticed in " N. & Q.," Vol. v., p. 93.
Edward Foss.
TRANSLATION OF THE PRATER BOOK INTO FRENCH.
(Vol. vii., p. 382.)
In answer to some of the questions proposed by
O. W. J. respecting the Prayer Book translated
into French, 1 am able to give this information.
A copy of a French Prayer Book is to be found
in the JBodleian Library (Douce Coll.), which is
very probably the first edition of the translation.
A general account of this book may be gained
from Strype's Mem, EccL K. Ed. VI. (vol. iii.
p. 208. ed. 1816) ; also Strype's Mem. Ahp.
Cranmer (b. ii. c. 22. sub fin. and c. 33., and
App. 54. and 261.) ; also Collier's Eccl. Hist,
vol. ii. p. 321.
From these sources we may conclude that a
translation of the first book of K. Ed. VI. was
begun very soon after its publication in England,
at the instigation of Pawlet (at that time governor
of Calab), with the sanction of the king and the
archbishop " for the use of the islands of Guernsey
and Jersey, and of the town and dependencies of
Calais ; ** but it does not seem to have been com-
pleted before the publication of the second book
took place, and so the alterations were incorpo-
rated into this edition.
The translator was "Fran^oys Philippe, a
servant of the Lord Chancellor" (Thos. Goodrick,
Bishop of Ely), as he styles himself. The printer's
name is Gaultier. It was put forth in 1553.
There is still extant an *' Order in Council " for
the island of Jersey, dated April 15, 1550, com-
manding to " observe and use the service, and
other orders appertaining to the same, and to the
ministration of the sacraments, set forth in the
booke sent to you presentlye." It is uncertain
what the book here referred to- was, whether a
translation or a copy of the English liturgy.
There are copies extant of another liturgy put
forth in 1616, purporting to be " newly translated
at the command of the king." The printer's
name is Jehan Bill, of London. The name of
John Bill appears also as king's printer in the
English authorised edition of 1662.
Another was published in 1667, by Jean Dun-
more and Octavien Pulleyn.
The edition of 1695, published by Erringham
(Everingham) and R. Bentley, has the sanction
of K. Charles 1 1, appended to it.
Numerous editions have since been published,
varying in many important points (even of
doctrine) from one another, and £1*0111 their En-
glish original. There is now no authorised
edition fit for general use ; the older translations
having become too antiquated by the variations
in the French language to be read in the churches.
M. A. W. C.
PRATING TO THE WEST.
(Vol. viii., p. 208.)
Although going over old ground, yet, if it be
permitted, I would note a curious coincidence
connected with this far-spread veneration for the
West.
As mentioned by G. W., the Puranas point to
the '^ Sacred Isles of the West" as the elysium of
the ancient Hind^, ** The White Islands of the
West." The Celtss of the European continent
believed that their souls were transported to-
England, or some islands adjacent. (See Ency •
clopedie Methodique^ art. ** Antiquites," vol. i.
p. 704.) The Celtic elysium, " Fkth-Innis," A re-
mote island of the West, is mentioned by Logan in
his Celtic Gael, vol. ii. p. 342., who no doubt
drew his information from the same source as
Professor Rafinesque, whose observations on this
subject I transcribe, viz. :
'* It is strange but true, that, throughout the earth,
the place of departed souls, *the land of spirits^ was^
supposed to be in the West, or at the setting sun. This
happens everywhere, and in the most opposite religiODfl,
from China to Lybia, and also from Alaska to Chili
in America. The instances of an eastern paradise were
few, and referred to the eastern celestial abode of yore,
rather than the future abode of souls. The Ashinists,
or Essenians, the best sect of Jews, placed Paradise in
the Western Ocean ; and the Id. Alishe, or Elisha of
the Prophets, the happy land. Jezkal (our Ezekiel)
mentions that island ; the Phoenicians called it Alizu^
and some deem Madeira was meant, but it had neither
men nor spirits ! From this the Greeks made their
Elysium and Tartarus placed near together, at first in
Epirus, then Italy, next Spain, lastly in the ocean, as
the settlers travelled west. The sacred and blessed
islands of the Hindus and Lybians were in this ocean ;
Wilford thought they meant the British Islands.
Pushcara, the farthest off, he says, was Iceland, but
may have meant North America.
" The Lybians called their blessed islands * Aimones;''
they were the Canaries, it is said, but likely the At-
lantides, since the Atlantes dwelt in the Aimones," &e.
And farther he says, the Gauls had their Coca^e,
the Saxons their (jockaign, Cocana of the Lusita-
nians, —
« A land of delight and plenty, which it proverbial to
this day I By the Celts it was called ' Dunna fead>
huigh,' a fairy land, &c- But all these notions have
earlier foundations, since the English Druids put their
paradise in a remote island in the west, called * Flath-
344
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 206.
Innis,' the flat island," &c. — American Nations, vol. ii.
p. 245. et infra.
The coincidence then is this. The same ve-
neration for the West prevails among many of our
Indian tribes, who place their Paradise in an
island beyond the Great Lake (Pacific), and far
toward the setting sun. There, good Indians
enjoy a fine countrv abounding in game, are
always clad in new SKins, and live in warm new
lodges. Thither they are wafted by prosperous
.^ales; but the bad Indians are driven back by
-adverse storms, wrecked on the coast, where the
remains of their canoes are to be seen covering
^the strand in all directions.
I cannot refrain from adding here another coin-
'cidence connected with futurity. The above idea
of sailing to the Indian Paradise, though prevalent,
ns not general ; for instance, the Minnetarees and
Mandans believed that to reach Paradise the souls
"of the departed had to pass over an extremely
narrow bridge, which was done safely by the good
Indians,^ but the bad ones slipped off and were
t)uried in oblivion. (See Long^s Expedition to the
JRochy Mountains, vol. i. p. 259.)
The Chepewa crosses a river on a bridge formed
by the body of a large snake (see Long's Expe-
dition to St, Peter's River, vol. i. p. 154.) ; and in
the same volume it is stated that the Dacota, or
Sioux, believe they must pass over a rock with a
sharp edge like a knife. Those who fall off go to
the region of evil spirits, where they are worked,
tormented, and frequently flogged unmercifuUv.
Now, this bridge for gaining Paradise is just
the Alsirat of the Mahomedans ; I think it will be
found in the Bihliotheque Orientcde of D'Herbelot;
fit all events it is mentioned in the preliminary
discourse to Sale's Koran, Sale thinks Mahomet
borrowed the idea from the Magians, who teach,
that on the last day all mankind must pass over
the " PM Chinavad " or " Chinavar," t. e, « The
Straight Bridge." Farther, the Jews speak of
the " Bridge of Hell," which is no broader than a
thread. According to M. Hommaire de Hell, the
Kalmuck Alsirat is a bridge of iron (or causeway)
traversing a sea of filth, urine, &c. When the
wicked attempt to pass along this, it narrows be-
neath them to a hair's breadth, snaps asunder, and
thus convicted they are plunged into hell. {Travels
in the Steppes of the Caspian, ^c, p. 252.)
Having already trespassed most unconscionably,
I forbear farther remark on these coincidences,
except that such ideas of futurity being found
amongst nations so widely separated, cannot but
induce the belief of a common origin, or at least
of intimate communication at a former period,
and that so remote as to have allowed time for
diverging dialects to have become, as it were,
distinct languages. A. C. M.
Exeter.
JACOB BOBART.
(Vol. viii., p. 37.)
The completion of a laborious literary work has
taken my attention away from the " N. & Q." for
some weeks past, otherwise I should sooner have
given Mr. Bob art the following information.
The engraving of old Jacob Bobart by W.
Richardson is not of any value, being a copy from
an older print. Query if it is not a copy of the
very rare engraving by Loggan and Burghers ?
The original print of the " founder of the phy-
sick garden," "D. Loggan del., M. Burghers
sculp., 1675," which Mr. Bobart wishes to procure,
may be purchased of A. E. Evans, 403. Strand, for
21, I2s, 6d, I also learn from Mr. Evans' inva-
luable Catalogue of Engraved BriHsh Portraits
(an octavo of 431 pages, lately published), that
there exists a portrait of Bobart, " the classical
alma mater coachman of Oxford," whole length,
by Dighton, 1808. The same catalogue also con-
tains other portraits of the Bobarts.
Since my last communication on the present
subject, I find the following memorandums in one
of my note-books, which possibly may be unknown
to your correspondent; they relate to MSS. in
the British Museum.
Add. MS. 5290. contains 227 folio drawings of
various rare plants, the names of which are added
in the autograph of Jacob Bobart the elder.
Sloane MS. 4038. contains some letters from
Jacob Bobart to Sir Hans Sloane, 1685-1716;
also one from Anne Bobart, dated 1701.
Sloane MS. 3343. contains a catalogue of plants
and seeds saved at Oxford, by Mr. Bobart,
1695-6.
Sloane MS. 3321., consisting of scientific letters
addressed to Mr. Petiver, contains one from Jacob
Bobart, and another from Tilleman Bobart. The
latter has a letter dated ^'Blenheim, Feb. 5,
1711-12," to some person unknown, in Sloane
MS. 4253.
Tilleman Bobart^ appears to have been employed
in laying out the park and gardens at the Duke of
Marlborough's magnificent seat at Blenheim. A
number of his original papers and receipts were
lately disposed of by auction at Messrs. Puttick
and Simpson's. (See the sale catalogue of July 22,
1853, lot 1529.J Edward F. Ribibault.
EARLY USE OF TIN. — DERIVATION OF THE NABCB
OF BRITAIN.
(Vol. viii., p. 290.)
Many questions are proposed by G. W., to which
it is extremely improbable that any but a conjee*
tural answer can ever be given. That tin was in
common use 2800 years ago, is certain. Probably
evidence may be obtained, if it have not been so
Oct. 8. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES-
345
already, of its use at a still earlier period ; but it
is unlikely that vre shall ever know who first
brought it from Cornwall to Asia, and used it to
harden copper. It is, however, a matter of in-
terest to trace the mention of this metal in the
ancient inscriptions, Egyptian and Assyrian, which
have of late years been so successfully interpreted.
Mistakes have been made from time to time, which
subsequent researches have rectified. It was
thought for a long time that a substance, men-
tioned in the hieroglyphical inscriptions very fre-
quently, and in one mstance said to have been
Erocured from Babylon, was tin. This has now
een ascertained to be a mistake. Mr. Birch has
proved that it was Lapis lazuli^ and that what was
brought from Babylon was an artificial blue-stone
in imitation of the genuine one. I am not aware
whether the true hieroglyphic term for tin has
been discovered. Mention was again supposed to
have been made of tin in the annals of Sargon. A
tribute paid to him in his seventh year bjr Pirhu
(Pharaoh, as Col. Rawlinson rightly identifies the
name ; not Fihor, Boccharis, as I at one time sup-
posed), king of Egypt, Tsamtsi, queen of Arabia,
and Idhu, ruler of the Isabeans, was supposed to
have contained tin as well as gold, horses, and
camels. This, however, was in itself an impro-
bable supposition. It is much more likely that in-
cense or spices should have been yielded by the
countries named than tin. At any rate, I have
recently identified a totally different word with
the name of tin. It reads anna ; and I supposed
it, till very lately, to mean " rings." I find, how-
ever, that it signifies a metal, and that a different
word has the signification " rings." When Assur-
yuchura-bal, the founder of the north-western
palace at Nimrud, conquered the people who
lived on the banks of the Orontes from the con-
fines of Hamath to the sea, he obtained from them
twenty talents of silver, half a talent of gold, one
hundred talents of anna (tin), one hundred talents
of iron, &c. His successor received from the same
people all these metals, and also copper.
It is already highly probable, and farther dis-
coveries may soon convert this pro6ability to cer-
tainty, that the people just referred to (whom I
incline strongly to identify with the Shirutana of
the Egyptian inscriptions) were the merchants of
the world before Tyre was called into existence ;
their port being what the Greeks called Seleucia,
when they attempted to revive its ancient great-
ness. It is probably to them that the discovery
of Britain is to be attributed ; and it was probably
from them that it received its name.
In G. W.*s communication, a derivation of the
name from barat^anac, " the land of tin," is sug-
gested. He does not say by whom, but he seems
to disclaim it as his own. I do not recollect to
have met with it before ; but it appears to me,
even as it stands, a far more plausible one than
bruit-tan, " the land of tin :" the former term being
supposed to be Celtic for tin, and the latter a ter-
mination with the sense of land: or than brit"
daoine, " the painted (or separated) people."
I am, however, dbposed to think that the namQ
is not of Phoenician origin, but was given by their
northern neighbours, whom I have mentioned as
their predecessors in commerce. These were evi-
dently of kindred origin, and spoke a language of
the same class ; and I think it all but certain, that
in the Assyrian name for tin (anna) we have the
name given to it hy this people, from whom the
Assyrians obtained it. "The land of tin" would
be in their language barat (or probably barif)
anna, from which the transition to Britannia pre-
sents no difficulty. I assume here that b-f'-t^
without expressed vowels, is a Phoenician term for
" land of." I assume it on the authority of the
person, whoever he may be, that first gave the
derivation that G. W. quotes. I have no Phoeni-
cian authority within reach : but I can readily
believe the statement, knowing that banit would
be the Assyrian word used in such a compound^
and that n, r, and b are perpetually interchanged
in the Semitic languages, and notoriously so in
this very root. Ummi banitiya, "of the mother
who produced me," is pure Assyrian ; and so
woula banit-anna, " the producer of tin," be ; all
names of lands being feminine in Assyrian.
It would be curious if the true derivation of the
world-renowned name of Britain should be ascer-
tained for the first time through an Assyrian,
medium. Enw. Hincks.
Killyleagh, Down.
As there are several Queries in the Note of
G. W. which the Celtic language is capable of
elucidating, I beg to offer a few derivations from
that language.
Britain is derived from briot, painted, and
toll, a country — i, e, " the country of the painted
people." It IS a matter of history, that the people
of Britain dyed their bodies with various colours.
Tin is from the Celtic tin, to melt readily, to
dissolve. It is also called stan : Latin, stannum,
Hercules is from the Phoenician or Celtic, Earr*
aclaide, pronounced JSr^aclaie, i. e. the noble
leader or hero.
Melkarthus is derived from Mal-catair^ pro-
nounced Mal'Cahir, i. e. the champion or king of
the city (of Tyre).
Moloch cannot be identical with the Tyrian
Hercules, as Moloch was the god of fire : pro-
bably a name for the sun, from the Celtic mole,
i. e. fire. Fbas. Cbosslby.
846
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 206.
TEW-TBEES IN CHUBGHTABD8.
(Vol. viii., p. 244.)
Whilst offering a solution to the Query of R. C.
Warde, as to the placinpf yew-trees in church-
yards, I am obliged to differ from him toto cceloy
by considering the derivation of the name of the
plant it5slf, though I must candidly confess that
the soli uon of the Query and the derivation of
the word are my own.
Yew is ancient British, and signifies existent and
enduring, having the same root as Jehovah ; and
yew is Welsh for it t>, being one of the forms of
the third person present indicative of the aux-
iliary verb bdd, to be. Hence the yew-tree was
planted in churchyards, not to indicate death, de-
spair, but life, hope and assurance. It is one of
our few evergreens, and is the most enduring of
all, and clearly points out the Christian's hope in
the immortality of the soul : Resurgam,
Whilst on the word yew^ I may perhaps observe
that I am hardly inclined now (though I once was
so) to derive from it, as the author of the Etymo'
logical Compendium does, the name yeoman. I
think that yeoman is not yeto^man, " a man using
the yew-bow," but yoAe-man, a man owning as
much land as a yoke of oxen could plough m a
certain time. J. G. CuMBaiiG.
The following extract from the Handbook of En-
glish Ecclesiology, p. 190., may be of some assist-
ance to your correspondent :
'* Yew. These were planted generally to the south
of the churchy to supply green for the decoration of
churches at the great festivals ; this tree being an em-
blem of immortality. It is a heathen prejudice which
regards it as mournful. It is not probable yews were
used as palms ; the traditional name given to the withy
showing that this was used in the procession on that
festival."
WnxiAM W. KufG.
Instead of troubling you with a particular answer
to Mr. Waede's inquiry, let me refer him to the
Forest Trees of Britain, by the Rev. C. A. Johns,
p. 297. et seq., where, among many other curious
and interesting facts, he will find the various
reasons assigned by different authors, ancient and
modern, for the plantation of yew-trees in church-
yards. I do not find, however, that the origin in-
geniously assigned by Me. Waedb is among the
number. tp,
I have always supposed, but I know not upon
what authority, that the custom of planting yew-
tlrees in churchyards originated in the idea of sup-
plying the yeomen of the parish with bows, in the
good old archery days. Ignoramus. •
stars are the IXOWXBS OY HBATEH.
(Vol. viL passim,')
1 sent a Note to ** N. & Q.** some time ago, ex-
pressing my conviction that the original locale of
this beautiful idea was in St. Cbrysostom ; baty as
I could not then give a reference to the passage
which contained it, my suggestion was of oonne
not definite enough to call for attenticMi. I am
now able to vindicate to the ^ golden-moatfaed **
preacher of Antioch this expression of poetic
fancy, the origination of which has exeitec^ and
deservedly, so much inquiry among the readers of
** N. & Q." It occurs in Homily X., " On the
Statues,** delivered at Antioch. I transcribe the
passage from the translation in ITte Library of ike
Fathers :
** Follow me whilst I enumerate the meadows, the
gardens, the flowering tribes; all sorts of herbs and
their uses, their odours, f<Hms, di^MmUon ; yc% but
their very names ; the trees which are firiutfbl and the
barren ; the nature of metals ; that of animals» in the
sea or on the land ; of those that twim and tboae that
traverse the air ; the mountains, ths fbmta» the groves;
the meadow below and the meadow ahove ; for there it a
meadow on the earth, and a meadow too in tA« «ty; zhi
YARiods FLOWERS OF THE STARS; the ross below, and
the rainbow above I . . . . Contemplate with me the
beauty of the sky ; how it has been preferred so long
without being dimmed, and remains as bright and
clear as if it had been only fabricated to-day ; more-
over the power of the earth, how its womb has not be-
come effete by bringing forth during so long a time !*
&c. — Homily X., «« On the Statues," pp. 178-9.
W.Fraseb.
Tor-Mohun.
P. S. — Are the following lines, which, contiun
this idea, and were copied long ago from the
poet*s comer of a provincial paper, with tbe title
of "The Language of the Stars, a fragm^t," worth
preserving r
** The stars bear tidings, voiceless though they are :
*Mid the calm loveliness of the evening air.
As one by one they open clear and high.
And win the Vondering gaze of infancy.
They speak, — yet utter not. Fair heavenly flowers
Strewn on the floor- way of the angels* bowers !
'Twas His own hand that twined your cbaplets
bright ;
And thoughts of love are in your wreaths of light.
Unread, unreadahle by us: — there lie
Higli meanings in your mystic tracery ;
Silent rebukings of day*s garish dreams.
And warn in <^ solemn as your own fair beams.*
BOOKS BUBNEB BY THE COMMOIT HANGMAIT.
(Vol. viii., p. 272.)
Your correspondent Baxxiolbnsis should re-
member that at the time Dr. Drake published his
Oct. 8. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
847
ButormAngio-SeoHea, 1703, there were no bounds
to the angry passions and jealousies evoked bj tbe
dtscuBSJon of the projected union ; consequently,
whit may appear to us in tbe preaeut day au in-
lufficient reason foe the treatment the book met
with in the northern metropolis, wore a very
different aspect to the Scots, who, under the
popular belief that they were to be »oid to their
enemies, saw every movement with distrust, and
tortured everything said or written on this side
tbe Tweed, itpon the impending question, to dis-
cover an attack upon their national independence,
their cburch, and their valour.
Looking at Dr. Drake's book, then, for tbe
data upon which it was condemned, we find that
it opens with a prefatory dedication to Sir E.
Seymour, one of Queen Anne's Commissioners
for the Union, and a high churchman, wherein the
author distinctly ventures a blow at Presbytery
when he says to hb patron :
" The Isngaishinf; oppressed Church of Scotland is
■ot without hopes of finding in jou hereafter tbe same
sncceoAil cbamplon and restorer that ber sister of
England hoi already eiperienced."
He farther calculated upon Sir Edward inspiring
the neighbouring nation " with as great a respect
for the generosity of the English aa they have
heretofore had to dread their valour." Now the
Scots neither acknowledged the Episcopacy which
Seymonr is here urged to press upon them, nor
had they any such slavish fear of the vaunted
English prowess with which Dr. Drake would have
them intimidated ; without going farther, there-
fore, into the book, it appears to rae that the
Scots parliament bad a right to consider itwritten
in a bad spirit, and to pacify the people by con-
demning it.
Defoe, in his Hulory of the Union (G. Chal-
mers' edition, London, 1786), says :
" One Dr. Drake writes a preface to an abridgment
of the ScbU History, wherein, speaking something re-
flecting upon the freedoni and independence of Scot-
land, the Scots parliament caused it to be burned by
the hangman in Edinburgh,"
In his Northern Memoirs, 1715, Oldmixon ob-
" They (the Jacobites) therefore put Dr. E>rake. au-
thoT of the High Church Memariali, upon publishing
an antiquated Scotch history, on purpose to vilify the
whole nation in the preface, and create more ill blood.
This had the desired effect. Tbe Scots parliament
bighly resented the affront, and ordered it to be burnt
by the common hangman at Edinburgh,"
D'lsraeli, in his Calamitiea of Aulhon, has the
following interesting notice of Drake :
" I must add one more striking example of apolitical
■Qtbui in the cage of Dr. James Drake, a man of
gcniu* and an excellent writer. He resigned an ho-
noiable profenioD, that of medicine, to adopt a very
contrary one, that of becoving an author by profesaioa
for a parly. As a Tory writer be dared every ex-
tremity of the law, while he evaded it by every sub-
tlety of artifice; he sent a masked lady with his MSS.
to the printer, who was never discovered; and was
change of an t for a (, or nor for nD(, one of those
by which the law, li
Lisgrace,
often prol
: honor of hearing h!
ensured from the throne, of being imprisoned, of
eeing his Memoriali of the Church of England burned
t (the Rayal EicliHuge) London, and his mn. AngL
!cot. at Edinburgh. Having enlisted himself in the
■ay of the iKwtsellers, among other works, I suspect,
libel
The a,
rl of I.ei
e instructive n
; under the ti
i<i( Stent
" Drake was a lover of literature ; he lefl behind him
a version of Herodotus, and a system of anatomy, ones
the most popular and curious of its kind. After all
this turmoil of his literary life, neither his masked lady
meot brought a writ of error, severely prosecuted him;
and abandoned, as usual, by those (or whom he had
annihilated a genius which deserved a better fate, his
raving against cruel persecutors, and patrons not much
more humane."
Another book before me, and one which shared
the fate of Drake's in Edinburgh, is T/te Supe-
rioriiy and Direct Dominion of the Inqieriai Crowu
of England over the Crown and Kingdom of Scot-
bind, the true FouTidalion of a compleat Union re-
ataerted: 4to. London, 1705. This had appeared
the year before, but was reproduced to answer
the objections to it from the other side. It waa
written by William Attwood, Esq. If it required
a nice discrimination to discover the offence of
Drake, tliere was no such dubiety about this
book, which goes the whole length of Scottish
vassalage ; and Mr. Attwood would lead us to be-
lieve that he knocks over the arguments of Hodgea
and Anderson* for Scottish independence with as
much ease as he would ninepins.
* Jaa. Hodges, a Scotch gentleman, who supported
the Independency in a work entitled War belwixl (As
Tmo Kingdomt coniidertd, for whjcb. says Attwood,
" be bad 4800 Scats Funds given him fur nothing but
begging the question, and bullying England with tbe
" An Historical Essay, showing that the Crown of
Scotland is Initependent j wherein the gross Errors <^
a late book, entitled ' The Superiority and Direct Do-
minion,'&o., and some other books for that purpose,
arc exposed by Jaa. Anderson, A. M.. Writer to Hia
Majesty's Signet," Edin. 1705. For this work An-
348
NOTES AND QUEEtES.
[No. 20ft
Unfortunntelj tbese anbjccts nrc D);nin forced
upon us, and a reference to Bomc of the booke I
have cited will enable gentlemen who arc curioun
upon the point to judge for themselves in the
mutter of the present agitation of " Justice to
Scotland." , J. O.
On Mny 5, 1686, M.CIauile's account of the
Massacre of St. Bartholomew was burnt in the
Old Exchange, " eo mighty n power .and ascendant
here had the French ambassador." (Evelyn's Me-
main.} John S. Bdbn.
rSOTOGBAPBIC
Sttreoteopic Anglet. — As 1 presume that Mb.
T. Ii. Mebbitt is, like myself, only desirous of
arriTing at truth, I beg to- offer the following
reply to his last communication (Vol. viii.,
pp. 275-6.), In which be misinterprets some ob-
servations of mine upon the aubjecl in question.
With regard to the distance quoted by me of
Sj Inches, I look upon it as the same thing as
intended by M». Mebwtt. — that h, the average
distance between the centres of the eyes ; and it
amounts simply to a difierence of opinion between
ns_; but, so far as that point is concerned, I am
Siite ready to adopt 2^ inches as a standard, al-
ough I believe that the former is nearer the
truth : however, I require more than a mere aiser-
tion that " the onlr/ correct apace for the cameras
to be apart is 2^ inches, and this under every
circumstance, and that any departure from this
Tnrut produce error." I quote verbatim, having
merely Italicised three words to point my meaning
more clearly. An object being 3 feet distant, and
another at 10 feet from the observer, a line be-
tween the eyes will subtend a very muck larger
angle in the former than in the latter Instance :
hence the inclination of the axes of the eyes is the
chief criterion by which people with the usual
complement of those useful organs judge of proxi-
mity ; but if half a dozen houses are made to ap-
pear as if 10 or 12 feet distant (by means of the
increase of the angle between the points of form-
ation of the pictures), while the angle which each
picture subtends is relatively smaTl; It is clear
that both eyes will see in relief at a short distance
half a dozen houses in a spnce not large enough
ibr a single brick of one of them, and, consequen3y,
the vieu) will appear at if taken from a model.
Mr. Mbbbitt will object that an erroneous effect
is produced; if he will refer to my statement
deraon received the tUanks o( the ScoMiih parliament,
» well as lome pecuniary reward. ( Chilmers' Life of
Buddimatt.) Tlie autliars of these boaks having made
out a case which was adapted at the national one,
no»i« surprising that thej iliould hand ovei
and Attwood to the hangman far sltempting
(Vol. viii., p. 228.), he will find that it ia pr«ciwlr
what I admitted; and he appears to have over-
looked the prosito attached to my next ohterr-
ation (judging by his comment thereon), so I shall
make no farther remark upon that pomt, beyond
inquiring why the defect he is content to put up
with is called a trijiing exaggeration, ivhi^ that
which is less offensive to me Is designated as abtolutt
deformity and error ? Persons with one eye are
vol good judges of distance, and this mar be eauly
tested thus; — Close one eye, and endeavour to
dip a pen In an inkstand at some little distance
not previously ascertained by eiperinwnt, nith
both eyes open ; it will be found far less euj thaa
would he imagined. One-eyed people, from habit,
contrive to judge of distance mainly bv reUMve
poiition, and by moving the head lafenmy cause a
change therein : to them, all pictures are, to an
extent, stereoscopic.
I am really amazed that my advocacy of Uu
radial. Instead of the paralld, posiUon of the
cameras should have been so miaondentood.
Surely, it cannot be seriously asserted that tba
former will produce two vanishing points^ and the
latter only one ? And as to the supposition coa-
nectcd with the hoy, the ass, and^the drum, a
camera that would produce the effect of abowiug
both sides of the ass, both legs <^ the boy, ana
both beads of the drum, with a MOtemml o^ onlv
2^ inchet, whether radially or parallel, would In-
deed be a curiosity. But if the motion of the
camera extended over a space sufficiently large to
exhibit the phenomena aUuded to, then it wonlil
confirm what I have before advanced, viz. present
the Idea of a imall taodel of the objecta, wbicli
could be so placed as to •UtoTi naturally these very
effects.
_ That the axes of the eyes are inclined when
viewing objects. Is readily proved thua : — Let a
person look across the road at any object — say a
shop'window ; but stand so that a lamp'pott near
him shall intervene, and be in a direct line between
the observer's nose and the object viewed. If he
be requested to observe the post instead of t^
distant object, the pupils of bis eyes will be seen
to approach one another; and on again looki^
to the distant object, will instantly recede. The
range of vision is another point that appears to be
misunderstood, as we are differing aboat wwdl
instead of facts. The column Is an illnstratiM
that will exactly suit m_y views; for I call the
range of vision tbe same if taken from side to nde
of the column, although it is perfectly tme that
the tangents to the two eyes differ by the a^^
they subtend : but certainly Mb. WiLxiitson's case
(VoLviii., p. 181.) of seven houses and five bathing-
machines in one picture, and five houses and eight
)uld hand over Drake machines iu the other, illustrates an instance where
the range of vision is not the same ; but I CMitend
that the stereoscopic effect is then eoiyCwd to firs
Oct. S. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
349
houses and five macliines, otherwise Mb. Wii-kib-
eon's supposititious case (ibid.'), of ilII mBGhinea in
one, and all bousea in the other, might be con-
sidered as stereoscopic.
In concluding this verj lengthened and, I fear,
tediouB reply, £ beg to assert that I am most
uilling to reuant any proposition I mny have put
forth, if proved to be erroneous ; but I must have
proof, not mere assertion. And farther, my wil-
ling (hanks ai'C ulirnys tt.-udered to any one Icind
enough to correct an error. Geo. SuADnoLT.
Mr. Pamphrey's Pfocc.fs for securing black Tints
in Positives. — The iuiportante that appears to be
attached by some of thy correspondents to the
stereoscopic appearance of photogrnplis, induces
me to call the attention of those who may not
have noticed it to the fact that, as all camera
pictures are monocular, they ore best seen by
closing one eye, and then they truly represent
nature ; and the effect of distance (which so often
appears wanting in photographs) is given with
marvellous cSecl, so well indeed as to render the
use of a stereoscope unnecessary. Like other pho-
tographers, I have been long seeking for a method,
easy, cheap, and certain, for obtaining the black
tints that are so highly prized by many in the
French positives ; and having at last attained the
object of my search, I lose no tima in laying it
before my fellow- operators.
I obtain these results with a twenty-grain solu-
tion of nitrate of silver, a fact that^itl, I think,
fpecimci).* I use Canson's paper, either albumen-
ized or plain (but the former is far preferable).
If albumen is used, I dilute it with an equal mea-
sure of uater, and add half a grain of common sail
(chloride of sodium) to each ounce of the mixture.
^is is applied to the paper with a soft flat brush,
and all bubbles removed, by allowing a slendci
stream of the mixture to flow over it^ surface : il
ii then hung up to dry, and afterwards the albu-
men is coagulated with a hot iron. If the papei
is used plain, a solution of common salt (half i
grain to one ounce of water) is placed in a ahollov
tray, and the paper floated on its surface for i
minute, and then bung up to dry. Excite, ii
either case, with an ammoiiio-nitrate of silver so
lution (twenty grains to one ounce of water), b;
floating the paper, prepared side downwards, fo
one minute, and hang up to dry.
Print tolerably strongly, and the proof will b'
of a reddish -bronn. Fix In tolerably strong solu
tion of hypo, soda; (I never weigh my hypo., n
cannot give the proportion), that either has beei
in use some time, or else, if new, has been nearl;
saturated with darkened chloride of silver- Whei
ized, remove the proofs into another vessel of the
lame solution of hypo., to which has been added
chloride of gold and acetic acid. The way I do
.his is to dissolve one drachm of chloride of gold
n two and a half ounces (1200 minims) of water.
Df this I take twenty minims (which will contain
me grain Au Cl^) and forty minims of acetic
icid (Beaufoj's) for every dozen proofs (of the
iizc of 7 X 9 in.), that I mean to operate on, and
laving mixed the gold and acetic acid with the
iolution of hypo., place the proofs in it till they
ittain the desired colour : they are tbea to be
Lvashed and dried in the usual way.
Knowing that so cheap and easy a process for
obtaining these tints would have been a great
boon to me a short time since, I lose no time in
communicating this to the readers of " N. & Q."
I shall feel a pleasure in explaining the plan more
in detail to any photographer who may feet dis-
posed to drop me a line. WiLUAU Fuufhrbt.
Osbaldwict, near York.
J&tgititi ta SSinat tAunUi,
BoslienyiUe the Printer (Vol. TJii., p. 203.). —
In reply to Mb. Eluott's inquiry, I beg to say
that Baskerville the printer was merely named as
one who had directed his interment in unconae-
cratcd ground, llie exact place of his burial was
not deemed a point of importance, but it having
been questioned, I am able to state that the spot
was correctly described by me. Nichols, in his
Literary Anecdotes (vol. viii. p. 456.), tells us that
" Bnskerville was buried in a tomb of masonry, in
the shape of a cone, under a windmill in bia garden ;
on the top of this windmill, after it fell into dis-
use, he had erected an urn, and had prepared an
inscription," of which Mb. Eluott baa given a
portion.
In his will, doted January G, 1773, he directs
his body " to be buried in a conical building here-
tofore used as a mill, which I have lately raised
higher, and painted and prepared for it." It
seems somewhat surprising that one, who shocked
even John Wilkes as " a terrible infidel," should
have printed a most beautiful folio Bible, at on
eipense of 2000^., and three or more editions of
the Book of Common Prayer. Still joore, in
1762, he telb Walpole that he bad a grant from
the University of Cambridge to print their 8vo.
and 12mo. Common Prayer Books, and that for
this privilege he laboured under heavy liabilities
to the University. Baskerville doubtless regarded
these books with a tradesman's eye, indifferent to
the subjects of the works issued from his press,
provided they sold. It would, however, be vwy
unjust to this admirable printer to name him
without praise for the diatinguiabed beauty of hia
typography : it was clear and elegant, and he
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 206.
It curioui in tlie choice both of hi* paper
iitpape
J.H.W
four benutiful lines which W.
ooncluaion of a poem entitled " Woman," written
bj Eton Barrett. About the close of the last
centurj, Eton Burett and hia younger brother
Richard Barrett vere at a private school on
Wandsworth Common. Mj brothers and I were
their school fellows. The Barretts were Irish
boys ; I think (but I apeak very doubtfully) from
Cork. Eton Barrett was a boj of more than ordi-
Referring to a collection of notei on the ancient
commerce and manufactureii of Ireland, which Z
have lately made, I find — cited as an instance of
the general use of Irish cloth in England at an
carl/ period — that Henry IV., in 1410, gave a
rojal grant of tolls, for the purpose of paving the
town of Cambridge ; in which, among other arti-
cles, Irish cloth is taxed at the rate of twopence
per hundred. The grant, " De villa Cantabrigin
paveanda," will be found in Bymer's Fadera.
W. PlNEEBTOir.
Ham.
nary talent. lie was a genius a
'"?..'
lights around him. I remember his writing a play
with prologue and epilogue, which was performed
before the master and liia family, &c., with so
much success, that the masLer prohibited any future
dramatic performances, fearing that be might
incur blame for eDCOuraging too much taste for
the theatre. Our master gave up his school be-
fore the year 1800. . Eton Barrett, a great many
years ago, published a little volume of poems, of
which " Woman" was one. I do not reuii;mber
that I ever met him since our scbool-dnya. 1 have
heard that be adopted Tory politics in Ireland,
and that his brother attached himself to O'Coonell,
and conducted some newspaper ; but this is mere
report. Allow me to take this opportunity for
observing, that many of the communications to
" N. & Q.," such as those in which matters of fact
are stated, ought, it may justly be urged, to be
authenticated by the signature of the contributor.
I feel the truth of this so strongly, that, though I
do not sign mv name, yet I bare thought it right
to make myself known to you, so that you know
the persqn who contributes under the signature
F. W. J.
Haidf-naked (Vol. viii., p. 205.). — The manor
house of Halnnker, adjoining Walberton and Good-
wood, ia thus spoken of by Dallaway in hia Hist,
of Sussex, "Rape of Chichester," p. 131.: — "Hal-
naker, called in Domeiduj/ ' Halneche,' and in
writings of verv ancient date Halnac, Ualnaked,
and HaMhaked.'' Then follows a short description
of the old manor-house.
It has been lately visited by the Archreological
Association, under the direction of Lord TSbot
de Malahide ; and it is probable that the indus-
trious antiquaries of Sussex will soon give ua a
more detailed account of it in their neit volume
of Traiuaetions. M. (2.)
Cambridge and Ireland (Tol. viii., p. 270.). —
The story of Irish merchants landing at Cambridge
is " very like a whale," " loucbed upon the deserts
of Bohemia." I think, however, that I can trace
the source of tbia glaring and oft-repeated error,
aa there really exists a docuraentarjr connexion
between Irish cloth and the town of Cambridge.
the lesser Aaiobiographicid Sketch (Vol. vii., p. 477.). —
The fragments found by Chevbkblu are parts of
The Li^ary of Useless Knowledge, by Athanasios
Gasker, Esq., F.R.S., &c. : London, W. Pickering,
1837. H. J.
Statute Book of All Souls College ; Robert Hove*
den's Life of Chickely ,' and the reapective Lira
by Arthur Duck and O. L. Spencer, have all been
examined for the date of Uenry Chichely't birt^
but without success.
Tbe most probable conjecture is, that he wu
born in 1362; since in 1442 (see bis "Letter to
Pope Eugenius," printed in the Appendix to Spen-
cer s Life) be describes himself as having either
completed or entered upon his eighteenth year.
EdWAKD F. RufB^DLT.
'^Diseover^ of the Inquisition" (Vol. viii^ p. 137.).
— It is a mistake to suppose that all John Day ■
publications are rare. Montanut'a Discover)/ and
playnt Declaralion of sw^ry luifiU Praeliees of
the Holy Inquisition of Spayne, newfy bvnda^a,
4to., 1SG8, is not uncommon. Herbert and Heber
possessed copies; and a copy sold at Saunders'i
in 1818 for five shillings. My own copy (a r^
markably fine one) cost sixteen shillings at Evans's
in 1 840. Tbc edition of 1569, containing BomQ
additions, is of greater rarity.
Edwakd r. RncBAtna.
DiDini'iMr Bod (Vol. viii., p. 293.).— In the firtt
edition of hia M^kematieal Recreation*, HnUOB
laughed at the divining rod. In the interval be-
tween that and the second edition, a lady nude
him change hit note, by using one before him at
Woolwich. Hutton had the courage to puUidi
the account of the experiment in the second edi-
tion (vol. iv. pp.216— 231.), after the account ka
had previously ^iven. By a letter from Hutton to
Bruce, printed in the memoir of the former whidi
the latter wrote, it appeait that the lady was Ladj
HUbanke. U.
"Pinece with a stUk" fVoL viii., p. 270.).—
Archbishop Bramhall's editor should have spelled
the first word pinnace, and then your correspondent
Mft. Bi-AusTON could easily have understood the
Oct. 8. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
351
allusion. In speaking of the offensive compo-
sition, well known to sailors, the word revenge,
and not defend, was used bj Bramhall. R. G.
Longevity (Vol. viii., p. 113.). — I do not think
any of your correspondents has noticed the case
of John Whethamstede, ^bbot of St. Albans, who
wrote a Chronicle of the period between 1441 and
1461 : *'' He was ordained a priest in 13S2, and died
in 1464, when he had been eighty-two years in
priest's orders, and was above one hundred years
old." Surely this is a case suflSciently authen-
ticated for your more sceptical readers. (Henry's
History of Great Britain, 2nd ed., Lond. 1788,
vol. X. p. 132.) Tewabs.
Chronograms (Vol. viii., pp. 42. 280.). — The
following additional specimen of this once popular
form of numerical puzzle is not, I think, unworthy
a corner in " N. & Q."
On the upper border of a sun-dial, affixed to
the west end of Nantwich Church, Cheshire, there
appeared, previous to its removal about 1800, the
undermentioned inscription :
" Honor DoMIno pro paCe pop VLo sVo parta."
Now, seeing that Nantwich was, during the
civil dissensions which culminated in the murder
of Charles I., a rampant hot-bed of anarchy and
rebellion, we should hardly be prepared for such
a complete repudiation of those principles as is
conveyed in the line before us, did we not know
that the same anxiety to get rid of the " Bare-
bones" incubus universally prevailed. The nu-
merals, it will be seen, make up the number 1661,
which was the year of the coronation of King
Charles II. ; and, no doubt, also the year in which
the dial in question was erected. T. Hughes.
Chester.
Heraldic Notes (Vol. viii., p. 265.). — The bear-
ing of the arms of Clare Hall by Dr. Blythe is not
strictly correct, because, with the exception of the
three principal Kings of Arms, the Earl Marshal,
tha Master of Ordnance, and a few others espe-
cially, arms of office do not exist in England. The
general mode of bearing them is by impalement,
giving the preference (dexter) to the arms of dig-
nity. In the example under notice, the arms of
dignity or office are borne upon a/7z2e, which has
somewhat the appearance of an inverted chevron.
It is not at all a common mode of bearing addi-
tions ; but I remember one case, viz. the grant by
King Henry VIII. to the Seymours, after his mar-
riage to Lady Jane, of the lions of England on a
pile. BsocTUNA.
Bury, Lancashire.
Christian Names (Vol. y\\, passim), — May I be
permitted to correct one or two errors in Mb.
Bates's Note on this subject, Vol. vil, p. 627. ?
The person described as a "certain M. L-P.
Saint-Florentin ** was no less a person than the
Duke de la Vrilliere, who filled several important
offices during the reiga of Louis XV, The allu-
sion in the epigram to his " trois noms " has no
reference to his names, whether Christian or patro-
nymic, in the sense in which the question has been
discussed in " N. & Q.," but to the three titles
which he successively bore as a public man. He
commenced his career as M. de rhelippeaux ; was
afterwards created Comte de Saint-Florentin, and
sometime before his death was raised to the dignity
of Duke de la Vrilliere.
My authority for this statement is the cotempo-
rary work, Les Memoires secrets de Bachaumont^
where, under date of December, 1770, the epigram
is thus introduced, with a variation in the first
line:
** Un autre plaisant a fait d*avance T^pitaphe de M.
le due de la Vrilliere. EUe roule sur ses trois noms dif-
ferents de Fhelippeaux, Saint-Florentin, et la Vrilli^e:
' Ci-git, malgre son rang, un homme fort commun,
Ayant porte trois noms, et n*en laissant aucun.* "
The sense being, that his titles had been his only
distinction, and that even they had not been suffi-
cient to rescue his character from obscurity and
contempt.
However " applicable " this epigram may be to
the bearers or borrowers of three names, it will be
some comfort to them to know that its point was
not directed as^ainst them, but a^^ainst a class of
men of muchligher pretension^of one of whom
it has been said :
" He left the nanu, at which the world grew pale.
To point a moral, or adorn a tale."
Henbt H. Bbebn.
St. Lucia.
"/ om/ a spoke in his wheel " (Vol. viii., p. 269.).
— If G. K., being wronged, should cherish the un-
christian spirit of revenge, let him playfully insert
a spoke in the wheel of his friend's tandem, as it
bowls along behind a pair of thorough-bred tits,
with twelve months* hard condition upon old oats
in them.
By simply putting a spoke in the wheel of the
waggon employed in the removal of the Manchester
College to London, one trustee opposed a decided
" impediment to the movement*' of that institution.
W. C.
P. S. — Allow me to point out a misprint at
Vol. viii., p. 279., "Manners of the Irish:** for
chtise read cheese.
Judges styled Reverend (Vol. viii., pp. 158. 276.).
— ^With respect to the error into which I was led
in making Anthony Fitzherbert Chief Justice of
the Common Pleas, I beg to express my thanks
for our good friend*8 correction. My statement
352
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 206.
was founded on the authority of the Visitation-
Book of the county of Derby, a.d. 1634, in which
Anthony Fitzherbert is called " Chief Justice
of ;** and, as the question of his rank as a
judge was not one at the moment of communi-
cating my Note, I made no farther inquiry. I
find, however, upon reference to Vincent's Col-
lections for Derbyshire^ that Anthony Fitzherbert
18 styled, in a very good pedigree of his family,
"Unus Justiciariorum de Coi Banco." Had I
turned to Dugdale*s Origines Jttridiciales, the
error might have been avoided.
Thos. W. Kikg (York Herald).
Palace at Enfield (Vol. viii., p. 271.). — Queen
Elizabeth, in the early part of her reign, frequently
kept her court at Enheld. Her palace was the
manor-house, near the church, of which little now
remains. In Lysons* time (1793) it had been in
a great measure rebuilt, and divided into tene-
ments. He adds, " the part which contains the
old room is in the occupation of Mrs. Peny."
When I saw this room, about twenty years
ago, it was in its original state, with oak panels
and a richly ornamented ceiling. The chimney-
piece was supported by colunms of the Ionic and
t/orinthian order, and decorated with the cogni-
zances of the rose and portcullis, and the arms of
France and England quartered, with the garter
and the royal supporters. Underneath was this
motto, "^ola salus servire Deo, sunt caetera
fraudes."
In the garden was a magnificent tree, a cedar
of Libanus, which was pointed out to me as
having been planted by Queen Elizabeth. But
upon this point tradition was at fault. In the
Oentlema^s Magazine for 1779, p. 138., may be
seen an account of this remarkable cedar, which
was planted by Dr. Robert Uvedale, the botanist,
a tenant of the manor-house iu 1670.
The church at Enfield does not date farther
back than the middle of the fifteenth century.
The devices of a rose and ring, which occur over
the arches of the nave, seen also upon the tower
of Hadley Church, with the date 1444, *' supposing
it to have been, as is very probable," says Lysons,
"a punning cognizance adopted by one of the
priors of Walden, to which monastery both
churches belonged, will fix the building of the
present structure at Enfield to the early part of
the fifteenth century." Edward F. Kimbaujlt.
' Sir John Vanbntgh (Vol. viii., pp. 65. 160. 232.).
— Are not your correspondents on the wrong
scent as regards the birthplt^ce of Sir John Van-
brugh ? In the memoir prefixed to the collection
of his Plays, 2 vols. 12mo., 1759, it is said :
" Sir John Vanbrugh, an eminent dramatic writer,
son of Mr. Giles Vanbrugh of London, merchant, was
born in the parish of St. Stephen^ Walbrook, in 1666.
The family of Vanbrugh were for many years mer-
chants of great credit and reputation at Antwerp, and
came into England in the reign of Queen Elizabeth,
on account of the persecution for religion.**
Mr. Cunningham (Handbooh of London, p. 282.)
speaks of William Vanderbergh, the supposea
father of Sir John, as residing in Lawrence-
Poultney Lane in 1677. He refers to Strype's
map of Walbrook and Dowgate wards, and A
Collection of the Names of the Merchants living in
and about the City of London, 12mo. 1677.
The writer of the notice of Sir John Vanbrugh
in Chambers* Cyclopcedia of English Literature^
vol. i. p. 597., says :
** Vanbrugh was the son of a successful sugar-baker,
who rose to be an esquire, and comptroller of the
treasury chamber, besides marrying the daughter of
Sir Dudley Carlton. It is doubtful whether the
dramatist was born in the French Bastile, or the
parish of St. Stephen's, Walbrook. The time of his
birth was about the year 1666, when Louis XIV. de-
clared war against England. It is certain he was in
France at the age of nineteen, and remained there some
years.**
The family vault of the Vanbrughs is certainly
in St. Stephen's Church, Walbrook, where Sir
John was buried on the 30th of March, 1726.
Edward F. Bimbault.
Greek Inscription on a Font (Vol. viii., p. 198.).
— This Query has already been answered and
illustrated in Vol. vii., pp. 178. 366. 417. ; but the
following passage may he of interest, as affording
instances of the same inscription in France, and
pointing out the probable source of its usage, viz.
from the ancient Greek metropolitan church at
Constantinople :
** St. Memin est une abbaye celebre sous Tancien
nom de Micy, sur la riviere de Loire, proche d*Orl£ans.
II y a dans T^glise de ce monast^re un ben4tier de
forme ronde, avec cette inscription grecque grav^ sur
le bord du bassin, NPFON ANOMHMA MHMONAN
O^N. La meme chose est ^ Paris, au ben^tier de
St. Etienne d'Egres, et aussi autrefois a celui de Sainte
Sopliie k Constantinople." — Voyages liturgiques " de
France, par le Sieur MoUon, p. 219., 8vo. 1718.
It may be added (on Cole*s authority, vol. xxxy.
f. 19 b.) that the same inscription is inscribed round
a large silver basin used formerlpr at the master*s
table on festival days, in Trinity^ College Hall,
Cambridge ; and I have also seen it on a silver-
gilt rose-water basin, introduced at the banquets
given by the master of Magdalene College in the
same university. /«•
« Fierce '* (Vol. viii., p. 280.). -- In this part of
the country the words pert, pronounced "peart,"
and pure, bear the same meaning, of well in health
and spirits. Francis Johk Scott.
Tewkesbury.
Oct. 8. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
353
Giving Quarter (Vol. viii., p. 246.). — It must
be observed that the older form of the expression
is " keeping quarter : " .
" That every one should kill the man he caught,
To keep no quarter.** — Drayton in Richardson,
Now a very obvious application of the word
quarter^ instanced by Todd, is to signify the
proper station or appointed place of any one.
" They do best who, if they cannot but admit love,
yet make it keep quarter, and sever it wholly from their
serious affairs." — Bacon's Essays,
To keep quarter, then, is to keep within measure,
within the limits or bounds appointed by some
paramount consideration ; and hence, as in the fol-
lowing passage from Shakspeare (where it is
clumsily interpreted amity or companionship), the
word is used as synonymous with terms or con-
ditions :
" Friends all but now.
In quarter and in terms like bride and groom
Divesting them for bed, and then but now
Swords out and tilting one at other's breast."
In the same sense Clarendon speaks of " offering
them quarter for their lives if they would give up
the castle," i. e, offering them conditions for their
lives on their performing their part of the bargain.
Again, in a passage of Swift, cited by Todd :
" Mr. Wharton, who detected some hundred of the
bishop's mistakes, meets with very ill quarter
from his Lordship," i. e. meets with very ill con-
ditions of treatment from him. Finally, to give
quarter in the military sense is to give conditions
absolutely, as opposed to the unmitigated exercise
of the victor's power, and, as the most important of
all conditions, to spare life. H. W.
Sheriffs of Glamorganshire (Vol. iii., p. 186.).
— The list of the Gtamorganshire sheriffs here
inquired for was not printed by Mr. Traherne,
but by the Rev. H. H. Knight, M. A., of Neath,
and of Nottnge Court, in Glamorganshire : it is a
little pamphlet in a paper cover. Tewaes.
" When the maggot bites " (Vol. viii., p. 244.). —
A correspondent asks why a thing done on the
spur of the moment is said to be done " when the
maggot bites." It signifies rather doing a thing
when the fancy takes one. When a person acts
from no apparent motive in external circumstances,
he is said to have a maggot in his head, to have a
bee in his bonnet ; or, m French, " Avoir des rats
dans la tete ; " in ]?latt-Deutsch, to have a mouse-
nest in his head, the eccentric behaviour being at-
tributed to the influence of the internal irritation.
H.W.
i
Connexion between the Celtic and Latin Lan"
uages (Vol. viii., p. 174.). — Your correspondent
1, will find much valuable information on this
subject in a work entitled Thoughts on the Origin
and Descent of the Gael^ by James Grant, Esq.,
Advocate : Edinburgh, Constable & Co., 1814.
Fbakcis Johk Scott.
Tewkesbury.
Bacon^s Essays (Vol. viii., p. 143.). — Bacon's
Essay VII. : " Optimum elige," &c. Pythagoras, in
Plutarch de Exilio. — Essay XV. : ** Dolendi mo-
dus," &c. Plin., lib. viii. ep. 17. fin. C. P. E.
'' Exiguum est;' ^c. (Vol. viii., p. 197.). — "Exi-
guum est ad legem bonum esse." Vide Senec, de
Ira, ii. 27. C. P. E.
Muffs worn by Military Men on a March
(Vol. viii., p. 281.). —In the year 1592 the Duke
of Nevers was despatched by Henry IV. with all
speed to a place called Bully, in order to cut off
the retreat of the Duke of &uise, lately defeated
near Bures. Sully speaks of him thus :
** The Duke of Nevers, the slowest of men, began
by sending to make choice of the most favourable roads,
and marched with a slow pace towards Bully, with his
hands and his nose in his muff, and his whole person
well packed up in his coach." — Jtf«noir« of Sully,
vol. i. p. 235., English edit, Edinburgh, 1773.
Fbancis John Scott.
Tewkesbury.
" Earth says to Earth " (Vol. vii., pp. 498. 576.).
— A fac-simde of these lines, discovered in the
chapel of the Guild of the Holy Cross at Strat-
ford-on-Avon (with many other curious plates),
may be seen in Fisher's Illustrations of the Paint'
iiigs, &c., edited by J. G. Nichols, Esq., and pub-
lished in 1802, and afterwards continued.
Erica speaks of " Weaver's " Account.-* Unless
this is a misprint for " Wheler's" (Account ofStrat-
ford'on'Avon\ perhaps he will oblige me with the
full title of Weaver's work. Estb.
Poetical Tavern Signs (Vol. viii., p. 242.).' — I
would add the following sign- inscription to those
noted by K. C. Wabdb. It was on the walls of a
tavern half-way up Richmond Hill, three miles
south of Douglas, Isle of Man, kept by a man of
the name of Abraham Lowe :
" I'm Abraham Lowe, and half-way up the hill,
If I were higher up, what's funnier still,
I should be belowe. Come in and take your fill
Of porter, ale, wine, spirits, what you will.
Step in, my friend, I pray no farther ^o ;
My prices, like myself, are always low."
J.G.C.
Unhid (Vol. viii., p. 221.).— Is not the word
hunhs, so common in people's mouths, — An old
hunks, an old miser or miserable wretch, to be re-
ferred to the same derivation as unhid, hunkidf
F. B— w.
354
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 206.
Camera Lucida (Vol. ▼iii., p. 271.). — Caebt
will find Dr. WoUaston's dcaioription of his in-
yention, the ^* Camera LacidSt** in the 17th to-
Inrne of NicKohan^s Journal, M. C. M.
KOTB8 ON BOOKS, BTC.
Messrs. MacMillan of Cambridge have commenced
the publication of a series of theological manuals by
A Hittory of the Christian Church (^Middle Age)^ by
Charles Hardwick, M.A. ; which, although written
for this series, claims to be regarded as an integral and
independent treatise on the Mediseyal Church. The
work, which extends from the time of Gregory the
Great to 1520^ when Luther, having been extruded
from those churches that adhered to the communion
of the Pope, established a proyisional form of gOTcm-
ment, and opened a fresh era in the history of Europe,
b distinguished by the same diligent research and con-
scientious acknowledgment of authorities which pro-
cured for Mr. Hard wick's Hittory of the Articles of
HeliffioH such a favourable reception. The work is
illustrated by four maps, which have been especially
constructed for it by Mr. A. Keith Johnston.
The amiable and accomplished author of Propoaale
for Christian Union, and of Welsh Sketches, has just
issued the third and concluding series of his little vo-
lumes on Welsh history, civil and ecclesiastical. We
have no doubt that the eight chapters of which it con-
sists, and in which he treats of Edward the Black
Prince, Owen Glyndwr, Prince of Wales, Mediaeval
Bardism, and the Welsh Church, will be read with
great satisfaction, not only by all sons of the Prin-
cipality, but by all who look with interest on that
portion of our island in which the last traces of our
ancient British race and language still linger.
Books . Reckivkd. — The Journal of Sacred Litera-
ture, No. IX. for October, continues to put forth strong
claims to the support of those who have a taste for
pure biblical literature. From the address of its new
editor, it would seem not to be so well known as the
object for which it is established plainly deserves. —
Cyclopcedia Bibliographical Part XIII. for October,
continues its useful course. Every succeeding number
only serves to prove how valuable the work will be
when completed. — The Shakspeare Repository, edited
by J. H. Fennell, No. III., is well worth the attention
of our numerous Shakspearian readers.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
WANTXD TO PURCBASB.
FoRD*.s Handbook op Spain. Vol. I.
Austin Cheironomia.
Rbv. E. Irving's Orations on Death, Judgment, Heaven,
AND Hell.
Thomas Gardener's History of Dunwich.
Marsh's History of Hurslby and Baddesley. About 1805.
8vo. Two Copies.
NicBPHORUs Catena on tbb Pentateuch.
pRooopius Gazjeus.
Watt's Bibliooraphia Britannica. Parts V. and VI.
Maxwell's Digest op thb Law of Intestates.
Carlylb's Chartism. Crown Svo. 2nd Edition.
Tat BuiLOia, No. 590.
OswALU CaoLLii Opbra. Itaao. Geneva, 1635.
Oappariu.*8 UNmuRD-or CuaiosiTiis. Translated by Cbdmead.
London. l8mo. 1650.
Beaumont's Psyori. 2nd Edit, folio. Camb., 1703.
YAMFBLKTS.
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CONTENTS.
Notes on Midland County Minstrelsy, by C. Clifton
Barry -.-----
Comet Superstitions in 1853 . . . .
The Old English Word " Belilte " - - -
Druses, by T, J. Buckton - - - - -
Folk Lorb : — Legends of the County Clare -
Shakspeare Correspondeoce, by Thomas Keightley, &c.
Death on the Fingers - - - - -
Minor Notes : — On a " Custom of ye Englyshe " —
Epitaph at Crayford — The Font at Islip— " As good
as a Play " ..----
Page
357
358
358
360
360
361
3G2
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Lorett of Astwell -
Oaths
The Electric Telegraph
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ISlSOBLLANEOUS : —
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Jidvertisements - - -
363
. 363
. 364
. 364
MiNOK Queries : — Queries relating to the Porter
Family —Lord Ball of Bagshot — Marcarnes — The
Claymore — Sir William Chester, Kt. — Canning on
the Treaty of 1824 between the Netherlands and
Great Britain — Ireland a bastinadoed Elephant —
Jtfemorial Lines by Thomas Aquinas —" Johnson's
turgid style " — Meaning of " Lane," &c. — Theobald
le Botiller — William, fifth Lord Harrington — Sin-
gular Discovery of a Cannon-ball— Scottish Castles-
Sneezing— Spenser's "Fairy Queen" — Poema del
Cid — The Brazen Head- - - - - 354
Minor Queries with Answers:— " The Basilics " —
Fire at Honiton — Michaelmas Goose - - - 367
368
369
370
371
372
Photographic Correspondence : — Mr. Sisson's de-
veloping Fluid— Dr. Diamond's Process for Albu-
menized Paper — Mr. Lyte's New Process - - 373
41EPLIBS TO Minor Queries : — Derivation of the Word
•• Island" — "Paetus and Arria"— " That Swinney "
— The Six Gates of Troy — Milton's Widow — Boom
" Nugget " not an American Term — Soke Mill —
Xinometrical Verse — Watch-paper Inscription —
Dotinchem — Reversible Names and Words— De-
tached Church Towers — Bishop Ferrar — *' They
shot him by the nine stone rig "—Punning Devices-
Ashman's Park —** Crowns have their compass," &c.
— Ampers and— Throwing Old Shoes for Luck —
Ennui - 374
- 377
- 377
. 378
Vol.. Vm. — No. 207.
NOTES ON MIDLAND COUNTY MINSTBELST.
It has oflten occurred to me that the old coun-
try folk-songs are as worthy of a niche in your
mausoleum as the more prosy lore to which you
allot a separate division. Why does not some
one YfTite a Minstrelsy of the Midland Counties ?
There is ample material to work upon, and not
yet spoiled by dry-as-dust-ism. It would be vain,
perhaps, to emulate the achievements of the
Scottish antiquary; but surely something might
be done better than the county Garlands^ which,
with a few honorable exceptions, are sad abortions,
mere channels for rhyme- struck editors. There is
one peculiarity of the midland songs and ballads
which I do not remember to have seen noticed,
viz. their singular affinity to those of Scotland, as
exhibited in the collections of Scott and Mother-
well. I have repeatedly noticed this, even so far
south as Gloucestershire. Of the old Staffordshire
ballad vrhich appeared in your columns some
months ago, I remember to have heard two dis-
tinct versions in Warwickshire, all approaching
more or less to the Scottish type :
" Hame came our gude man at e*en."
Now whence this curious similarity in the ver-
nacular ideology of districts so remote ? Are all
the versions from one original, distributed by the
wandering minstrels, and in course of time
adapted to new localities and dialects ? and, if so,
whence came the original, from England or Scot-
land ? Here is a nut for Db. Himbault, or some
of your other correspondents learned in popular
poetry. Another instance also occurs to me.
Most of your readers are doubtless familiar with
the pretty little ballad of "Lady Anne" in the
Border Minstrelsy^ which relates so plaintively the
murder of the two innocent babes, and the ghostly
retribution to the guilty mother. Other versions
are given by Kinloch in his Ancient Scottish
Ballads, and by Buchan in the Songs of the Norths
the former laymg the scene in London :
«• There lived a ladye in London,
All alone and alonie,
She*s gane wi* bairn to the clerk*s son,
Down by the green-wood side sae bonny.**
358
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 207.
And the latter across the Atlantic :
" The minister's daughter of New York,
Hey with the rose and the Lindie, O,
Has fa*en in love wi' her father's clerk,
A' by the green burn sidie, O."
A "Warwickshire version, on the contrary, places
the scene on our own " native leas : "
" There was a lady lived on lea,
All alone, alone O,
Down the greenwood side went she,
Down the greenwood side, O.
*** She set her foot all on a thorn *,
Down the greenwood side, O,
There she bad two babies born,
AH alone, alone O.
« O she had nothing to lap them in,
All alone, alone O,
But a white appurn and that was thin,
Down the greenwood side, O," &c.
Here there are no less than four versions of the
same ballad, each differing materially from the
other, but all bearing unmistakeable marks of a
common origin. It would be interesting to know
the process by which this was managed.
C. Clitton Babry.
COMET SUPERSTITIOKS IN 1853.
From the 19th of August to the present time
that brilliant cornet^ which was first seen by M.
Klinkerfues, at Gottingen, on the 10th of June
last, has been distinctly visible here, and among
the ignorant classes its appearance has caused no
little alarm. The reason of this we shidl briefly
explain.
During the past fifty-five years the Maltese
have grievously snflered on three different occa-
sions; firstly, by the revolution of 1798, which
was followed by the plague in 1813; and lastly, by
the cholera in 1837. In these visitations, all of
which are in the recollection of the oldest inhabit-
ants, thirty thousand persons are supposed to have
perished.
Mindful as these aged people are of these sad
bereavements, and declaring as they do that they
were all preceded by some " curious signs " in the
heavens which foretold their approach, men's
minds have become excited, and, reason as one
may, still the impression now existing that some
fatal harm is shortly to follow will not be removed.
A few of the inhabitants, more terrified than
their neighbours, have fancied the comet's tail to
be a fiery sword, and therefore predict a general
war in Europe, and consequent fall of the Ottoman
Empire. But as this statement is evidently
* In one of the Scottish ballads the same idea is
more prettily expressed " leaned until a brier."
erroneous, we still live in ^eat hopes, notwith-
standing all previous predictions and '* curious
signs," that the comet will pass away without
bringing in its train any grievous calamity.
By the following extracts, taken from some
leading journals of the day, it will be seen that the
Maltese are not alone in entertaining a supersti-
tious dread of a comet's appearance. The Ameri-
cans, Prussians, Spaniards, and Turks come in
the same list, which perhaps may be increased by
your correspondents :
« The Madrid journals announce that the appear-
ance of the comet has excited great alarm in that city,
as it is considered a symptom of divine wrath, and a
presage of war, pestilence, and affliction for humanity.**
— Vide GalignanVs Messenger of August 31, 1853.
** The entire appearance (of the comet) is brilliant
and dazzling ; and while it engrosses the attention and
investigation of the scientific, it excites the alarm of
the superstitious, who, as in ancient tiroes, regard it as
the concomitant of pestilence and the herald of war.**—
Vide New York correspondence of The Sun^ Aug. 24,
1853.
*' The splendid comet now visible after sun-set on
the western horizon, has attracted the attention of every
body here. The public impression is, that this celestial
phenomenon is to be considered as a sign of war ; and
their astrologers, to whom appeal is made for an inter-
pretation, make the most absurd declarations : and I
have been laughed at by very intelligent Turks, when
I ventured to persuade them that great Nature's laws
do not care about troubles here below." — Vide Turkish
correspondence of J%e Herald, Aug. 25, 1853.
" The comet which has lately been visible has served
a priest not far from Warsaw with materials for a very
curious sermon. After having summoned his congre-
gation together, although it was neither Sunday nor
festival, and shown them the comet, he informed them
that this was the same star that had appeared to the
Magi at the birth of our Saviour, and that it was only
visible now in the Russian empire. Its appearance on
this occasion was to intimate to the Russian eagle,
that the time was now come for it to spread out its
wings, and embrace all mankind in one orthodox
and sanctifying church. He showed them the star
now standing immediately over Constantinople, and
explained that the dull light of the nucleus indi-
cated its sorrow at the delay of the Russian army in
proceeding to its destination." — Vide Berlin corre-
spondence of 7%e Times,
w.w.
Malta.
THE OLD ENGLISH WORD " BELIKE."
The word belikey much used by old writers, but
now almost obsolete, even among the poor, seems
to have been but very imperfectly understood —
as far as regards its original meaning and deriv-
ation. Most persons understand it to be equiva-
lent, or nearly so, to very likely, in all likelihood^
perhaps^ or, ironically, forsooth; and in that
Oct. 15. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
opLnioQ tlie^ are not far wroo^. Zt occurs in thk
sense in numerous passages in Shakspeare ; for
instance :
" Some meny mocLisg lord, Ulilte, "
Imvit Labosr'i Loit,
" O (hen, btlilu, ihe wu old >nd gentle."
Saay F.
" Btliit, this slioif imports the si^menL"
Ifamlel.
Sucti also was Johnson's opinion of the word,
for he repreaenia it to be " from tike, as hy likeli-
hoodf" nnd assigns to it the meiraings of "pro-
bablj, likely, perhaps." However, I venture to
Bay, in opposition to so great an authority, that
there is no immediate connexion whatever between
the words iel/ke and likely, with the exception of
the accidental similarity in the ayllable like.
We find three different meanings attached to
the same form like in English, viz. like, similis ; to
like, i.e. to be pleased wifli ; and the present word
belike, whose real meaning I propose to explun.
The first is from the A.-S. tic, gelic; Low Germ.
lick ; Dutch gelyk ; Dan. l^ (which is said to
take its meaning form lie, a corpse, i. e. an essence),
which word also forms our English termination -ly,
sometimes preserving its old form like ; as manly
or manlike, Godly or Godlike ; A.-S. werlic, Godlic ;
to which the Teut. adjectival termination lick is
analogous.
The second form, to like, i. e. to he pleased with,
is quite distinct from the former (though it has
been thought akin to it on the ground Uiat sitnili
nmilis placet) ; and is derived from the A,-S.
liciaa, which is from lie, or foe, a gift ; Low Germ.
licon; Dutch Jvira.
The third form, the compound term belike
(mostly used adverbially) is from the A.-S. licgan,
heliegan, which means, to lie hy, near, or around ;
to attend, accompany j Low Germ, and Dutch,
hggen; Germ, liegen. In the old German, we
have licken, ligin, Hggen — -jacere ; and geliggen—se
kabere ; which last seems to be the exact counter'
part of our old English belike ; and this it was
which first su^ested to me what I conceive to be
its true meaning. We find the simple and com-
f pound words in juxtaposition in Otfridi Eeajig.,
ih. i. cap. 23. 110. in vol. i. p. 221. of Schiller's
Tkes. Teid.:
" Tboh er nu bilibao e!,
Faramea thoh thar er si
Zi thiu'i nu Bar giligge.
Thoh er bigrabcn Ugge."
" EtsI vero is (Lazarus) jam mortuus est,
Eamus tameii ubi is .it,
Quomodoidjam se hBbeat(quo inBtatu flint resiji
Eliamsi jam sepultus jaceat."
On which Schilter remarks :
" Zi thiu*! nn ur glligge quomodo K res babi
bodie ittmtU verbo utimur,— wie e> itebe, uuteht."
We thus see that the radical meaning of the
word belike is to lie or be near, to attend ; from
which it came to express the simple condition, or
state of a thing : and it is in this latter sense that
the word is used as an adverbial or rather an hi-
teijeetional expression, when it may be rendered,
il may be so, lo H ii, is it to, &c. Sometimes ironi-
cally, sometimes expressing chance, &c. ; in the
course of time it became superseded by the more
modem term perhapa. Instances of similar ellip-
tical expressions are common at the present day,
and will readily suggest themselrea ; the modem
please, used for entreaty, is analogous.
It is not a little singular that this acconnt of
the word belike enables us to understand a passage
in Macbetk, which has been unintelligible to all
the commentators and readers of Shakspeare down
to the present day. I allude to the following,
which stuids in mj first folio,' Act IV. Sc. 3., thnt:
" What I am truly
Whilher indeed before they lieere approach.
Old Seyivard, with ten thousand warlike men.
Ahead; at a point, was setting foarth ;
Now well (ogelber, and the ebance of goodnesse
Be like our warranted quarrel."
Now it is not easy to see why Malcolm should
wish that " chance" should " be like^ i. e. similar
to, their "warranted quarrel;" inasmuch as that
?uarrel was most unfortunate and disustrouB.
hance is either fortunate or unfortunate. Tlie
1, is utterly irreconcilable with cAonee.
Still this sense has pleased the editors, and th^
have made " of gooduease " a precatory and inter-
iectional expression. Surely it is far more pro-
bable that the poet wrote beme (belicgan, geliggen)-
as one word, and that the meaning of the passage
ia simply " May good fortune attend our ent^-
prise." Mr. Collibh's old corrector passes over
this difficulty in silence, doubtless owing to the
that the word was well understood
I have alluded to the word like as expressiTe
in the English language of three distinct ideas,
and in the A.-S. of at least four j is it not possible
that these meanings, which, aa we find the words-
used, are undoubtedly widely distinct, haviog
travelled to us by separate channels, may never-
theless have had originally one and the same
source f I should be glad to elicit the opinion of
some one of your more learned corrcspondenta as
to whether the unused Hebrew p' may rot fx
that source. ^- O.K.
Rectory, Hereford.
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 207.
Comparinz the initiatory undertaking or co-
venant of flie Druses, as represented by Col.
Churchill in his very important disclosures (Xe-
lanrni, ii. 244.), with the original Arabic, and the
German translation of Eichhom (Repertorium fur
BiM. utid Morgeviand, lib. lii. 2'.i2.), I find that
the following additions made by Col. Churchill (or
De Sacy, whom he follows) are not in the Arabic,
but appear to be glosses or amplifioationB. For
example :
" I put my trust and conBdenee in our I^rd Hakim,
ttie One, Itie Eternal, without attribute and oitbout
"That in serving Him he will secie no other,
whether past, present, or to come."
" To tbe obierTaDce o! wbich he sieredlf binds hini-
lelrby the present contract and engagement, should he
«Ter reveal the lenst portion of it to others.'
"The moat High, King of Kings, [ihe creator] of
the beaten and the earth."
" Might; and irresistible [force]."
Col. Churchill, although furnishing the amplest
account which has yet appeared of the Druse re-
ligion, secretly held under the colour of Maho-
— ""~"sm, has referred very sparingly to the cate-
of this sect, which, being for the especial
instruction of the two degrees of moootheists,
constitule the most authentic source of accurate
knowledge of their faith and practices, and which
are to be found in the ori^nal Arabic, with a
German translation in Eichhorn's Repertorium
(»ii. 155. 2020. In tbe same work (xiv. 1., xyii,
ST.), Bruns (Kennicott's colleague) has furnished
from Abulfaragius a biograpby of Hamsab, the
Hakem ; and Adler (xt. 265.) bns extracted, from
Tarious oriental sources, historical notices of the
founder of tbe Druses-
Hie subject is peculiarly interesting at the
present juncture, as it ia probable that the Chinese
relkious movement, partaking of ft peculiar kind
of Christianity, may have originated amongst tbe
Druses, who appear from Col. Churchill to have
lieen iu expectation of some such movement in
India or China in counexion with a re-appearance
ef the Hakem. T. J, Buckton.
Birmingham.
L^etidi of the County Clare. — How Jlsaheen
(Oinan) viiited the Land of " Thiemah Ogiek " (the
CoBJtfty of perpebial Youth), — Once upon a time,
when Us^eeu was in the full vigour ot his youth,
it happened that, fatigued with tbe chace, and sepa-
rated from his companions, he stretched himself
Buderatreeto rest, and sooff fell asleep, "Awaking
with a start," he saw a lady, richly clothed and of
vorethaamortalbeauty, gazing on him; nor was it
Ions until she made him understand that a warmer
feeline than mere curiosity had attracted ber j nor
was Ussheen Ions in reB[MndiDg to it. The lady
then expl^ned that she was not of mortal birt^
and that he who wooed an immortitl bride must
be prepared to encounter dangers such as would
appal the ordinary race of men. Ussheen, with-
out hesitation, dcdared his readiness to encounter
■ny foe, mortal or immortal, that might be opposed
to him in her service. The lady then declared
herself to be the queen of "Ttiiemah Ogieh,"
and invited him to accompany her thitber and
share her throne. They tiien aet out on their
journey, one in all respects sinular to tliat under-
taken by Thomas tbe Rhymer and the queen of
Faerie, and having overcome all obstacles, arrived
at " the land of perpetual youth," where all the
delights of the terrestrial paradise were .thrown
open to Ussheen, to be enjoyed with only one
restriction. A broad flat stone was pointed out
to him in one part of the palace garden, on which
he was forbidden to stand, under penalty of the
heaviest misfortune. One day, however, finding
himself near tbe fatal stone, the temptation to
stand on it became irresistible, and he yielded to
it, and immediately found himself in full view of
his native land, the existence of which he had
forgotten from the moment be had entered tbe
kinedom of Thiernah Ogieh. But alas I bow waa
it diauged from that country he bad left only a
few days rince, for " the strong had become weaik,"
and " the brave become cowards," while oppres-
sion and violence held undisputed sway llurough
land. Overcome with grief, he hastened to the
the queen to beg that he might be restored to
bis country without delay, that be mif^bt endea*
vour to apply some remedy to its mufortunea.
Tlie queen's prophetic skill made ber aware of
Ussheen's transgression of ber commands before
he spoke, and she exerted all her persuasive
powers to prevail upon him to give up his desire
to return to Erin, but in vain. She then asked
him how long he supposed be bad been absent
from bis native land, and on his answering " thrice
seven days," she amazed him by declaring that
three times thrice seven years bad elapsed since
bis arrival at the kingdom of Thiemah Ogieh;
and though Time had no power to enter tbat land,
it would immediately assert its dominion over him
if he left it. At length she persuaded him to
promise that he would return to his country for
only one day, and then come back to dwell with ber
for ever ; and she gave him a jet-black bone of
surpassing beauty, n'om whose back she charged
bim on no account to alight, or at all events not
to allow tbe bridle to fall from his hand. She
fairy steed, be soon found himself approaching bis
former home ; and as he jotimeyed be met « man
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361
driving before bim a horse, across whose back
was thrown a sack of corn : the sack having fallen
a little to one side, the man asked Ussheen to
assist him in balancing it properly ; Ussheen
instantly stooped from his horse, and catching the
sack in his right hand, gave it such a heave that
it fell over on the other side. Annoyed at his
mistake, he forgot the injunctions of his bride, and
sprung from his horse to lift the sack from the
ground, letting the bridle fall from his hand at
the same time : instantly the horse struck fire
from the ground with his hoofs, and uttering a
neigh louder than thunder, vanished ; at the same
instant his curling locks fell from Ussheen's head,
darkness closed over his beaming eyes, the more
than mortal strength forsook his limbs, and, a
feeble helpless old man, he stretched forth his
hands secKing some one to lead him: but the
mental gifts bestowed on him by his immortal
bride did not leave him, and, though unable to
serve his countrymen with his sword, he bestowed
upon them the advice and instruction which
flowed from wisdom greater than that of mortals.
Francis Kobert Dayies.
SHAKSPEABE CORRESPONDENCE.
On " Hun-awayes " in Romeo and Juliet, —
" Gallop apace, you fiery-footed steedes.
Towards Phoebus' lodging such a wagoner
As Phaeton would whip you to the west.
And bring in cloudie night immediately.
Spred thy close curtaine, Love-performing night,
That run-awayes eyes may wlncke, and Romeo
Leape to these armes, vntalkt of and vnseene."
Your readers will no doubt exclaim, is not this
question already settled for ever, if not by Mr.
SiNGER*s substitution of rumourer^s^ at least by
that of R. H. C, viz. rvde days ? I must confess
that I thought the former so good, when it first
appeared in these pages, that nothing more was
wanted ; yet this is surpassed by the suggestion
of R. H. C. As conjectural emendations, they
may rank with any that Shakspeare's text has
been favoured with ; in short, the poet might un-
doubtedly have written either the one or the other.
But this is not the question. The question is,
did he write the passage as it stands in the first
folio, which I have copied above ? Subsequent
consideration has satisfied me that he did. 1 find
the following passage in the Merchant of Venice^
Act II. Sc. 6. :
" but come at once,
For the close night doth play the run-away,
And we are staid for at Bassanio*s feast"
Is it very difficult to believe that the poet who
called the departing night a run-away would apply
the same term to the day under similar circum-
stances ?
Surely the first folio is a much more correctlj
printed book than many of Shakspeare's editon
and critics would have us believe. H. C. K»
— — Rectory, Hereford.
The Word " clamour'' in " The Winters TaU^^
— Mr. Eeightley complains (Vol viii., p. 241.)
that some observations of mine (p. 169.) on the
word clamour^ in The Winter's Tale, are precisely
similar to his own in Vol. vii., p. 615. Hail
they been so in reality, I presume our Editor
would not have inserted them ; but I think they
contain something farther, suggesting, as they do,
the A.-S. origin of the word, and going far to
prove that our modern calm^ the older clame^ the
Shakspearian clamour, the more frequent dem^
Chaucer's clum, &c., all of them spring from the
same source, viz. the A.-S. clam or clom, which
means a band, clasp, bandage, chain, prison ; from
which substantive comes the verb ckemianj to
clam, to stick or glue together, to bind, to imprison.
If I passed over in silence those points on which
Mr. Keightley and myself agreed, I need scarcely
assure him that it was for the sake of brevity, and
not from any want of respect to him.
I may remark^ by the way, on a conjecture of
Mr. Keiohtley*s (Vol. vii., p. 615.), thatperhapSi
in Macbeth, Act Y. Sc. 5., Shakspeare migbt
have written '^ till famine clem thee," and not, as it
stands in the first folio, ** till famine cling thee,"
that he is indeed, as he says, *Mn the region of
conjecture : " cling is purely A.-S., as he will find
in Bosworth, " Clingan, to wither, pine, to cling
or shrink up ; marcescere." H. C. K,
Rectory, Hereford.
Three Passages in " Measure for Measured —
H. C. K. has a treacherous memory, or rather,
what I believe to be the truth, he, like myself,
has not a complete Shakspeare apparatus. Col-
ijer*s first edition surely cannot be in his library,
or he would have known that Warburton, long
ago, read seared for feared^ and that the same
word appears in Lord Ellesmere's copy of the
first folio, the correction having been made, as
Mr. Coluer remarks, while the sheet was at press.
I however assure H. C. K. that I regard his cor-
rection as perfectly original. Still I have my
doubts if seared be the poet's word, for I have
never met it but in connexion with hot iron ; and
I should be inclined to prefer sear or sere; but this
again is always physically dry, and not meta-
phorically so, and I fear that the true word is not
to be recovered.
I cannot consent to go back with H. C. K. to
the Anglo-Saxon for a sense of building, which I
do not think it ever bore, at least not in our poet^s
time. His quotation from the "Jewel House,"
&c. is not to the point, for the context shows that
" a building word" is a word or promise that will
362
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 207.
Ht me ft-bnilding, 1. 1. writing. After all I see no
difficulty in " the aU-bmUUng law ; " it meaas tbe
Uw that builJa, maintains, and repairs tbe irhole
social edi&ce, and is well suited to Angeto, whose
object was to enhance the favour be proposed to
Again, if H. C. K. bad looked at CoiJ.iEB'g edit.,
be would have seen tbnt in Act I. Sc. 2., priiteely
b the reading of tbe second folio, and not a
modern conjecture. If he rejects this authority,
he must read a little farther on perjury for
priuiry. As to the Italian preiae, I cannot re-
ceive it. I very much doubt Sbakspeare's know-
ledge of Italian, and am sure that he would not, if
he understood the word, use it as an adjeutive.
Mb. CotuBs's famed corrector reads with War-
burton prieilli/, and substitutes garb for guards, a
change which convinces me (if proof were want-
ing) that he was only a guesser like ourselves, for
it is plain, from the previous use of tbe word
hwitig, that guards is tbe right word.
Thos. KwOHTLar.
Siaitpeart't Works tcHh a Sigeit of aU the
Readings (Vol. Tiii-, pp. 74, 170.). — I fully concur
with your correBpondeat's suggestion, and beg to
suggest to Mb. IIilliwell that his splendid mono-
graph edition would be greatly improved if he
would undertake tbe task. As his first volume
contains but one play (_Tempesi), it may not be
too late to adopt the Bugeestion, so that every
v»riation of the text (in the Briefest possible form)
might be seen at a glance. Estb.
'■ Isaac uith, I am old, and I knon- not the day of
my death (Cm. XKvii. 2.) ; no more doth any, though
never id yaung. As soon (saitli the proverb) goei the
lamb'i akin to the market as that of the eld ihttp; and
Iha Hebrev uying ia, There be aa many yaung skulU
in Golgotha as oldt young men moy die (for none have
or can make any agreement with the grave, or any
covenant with death, ha. ixvjii. 15. 18.), but old men
mmst die. Tia the grant statute of heaven (ff(6. ir.
37.). Saiex qiuui tmiaex, an old man ia half dead ;
yea, now, at flfl; years old, we are accounted three
patti dead ; thia lesion we may learn from our fingers'
mdi, the dimensions whereof demonatrate this to ua,
begioDing at the end of the little linger, repreaenting
OUT childhood, rising up to a little higher at the end
of the ring-finger, which betokens our youth ; from it
la the top of the middle finger, which ia the highest
point of our elevated hand, and ao most aptly repre-
■enta our middle age, when we come to our ucfi^, or
bwght of stature and atrength ; then begini our de-
olioiag age, from thenoe to the end of our forefinger,
vdiioh amounts to a little fall, hut from thence to the
end of the thumb there la a great fall, to show, when
nun goes down (in his old age)he foils fnat and far, and
breaks (a* we my) with a witness. Now, if our very
fingers' end do read ut aueh a divine lecture of roor-
tality, oh, that we could take it out, and have it perfect
[aa we say) on our fingers' end, &a.
"To old men death ispnsjaHui'i, atanda before their
door, &0. Old men have (pcdcm in cymAd ChanaW)
3ne foot in the grate already ; and the Creek word
■filimy (an old man) ia derived from n^ to tli -fyr
ipay, which aignifies a looking towards the grounds
decrepit age goes stooping and grovelling, as groaning
lo the grave. It doth not only expect death, but oft
iolicita it." — Christ. Neaa's Compleat Hiatory aad
Myitery af Iht Old and Nia Tut., fol. Lond. 1690,
chap. aiL p. 227.
From The Barren Tree, a sermon on Lnke xiiL
7., preached at Psul'a Cross, Oct. 26, 1623, by
Ihos. Adams :
" Our bells ring, our chimneis smoake, our fields
rejoice, our children dance, ourselues ling and play,
Jooii Dtaaia plaia. But when righteouanease hath sowne -
and cornea to reape, here is no harueat ; obn ttl^faiw,
I finde none. And aa there was neuer lesse wisdome
ID Greece then in time of the Seven Wise Men: so
neuer lesae pietie among va, then now, when vpon good
cause moat ia expected. When Ihe sunne ia brightest
the aUra he darkeat; ao the cleerer our light, the mora
gloomy our life with the deeds of darkness. The
Cimerians, that live in a pcrpetuall mist, though they
Anaiogoras, that saiv the suone and yet deiued it, is
not condemned of ignorance, but of impietie. Former
times were like Leah, blcare-eyed, but fruitful i the
preacnl, like Rachel, faire, hut barren. We giie auch
acclamation to Ihe Cospell, that we quite forget to
obaerve the law. As vpon some aolemne festivall, tbe
bells are rung in all ateeples, but then the clocks are
tyed vp ; there is a great vntun'd confusion and clangor,
but no man knowea how the time pasaeth. So in this
vniuersall allowance of liberlie by the Gospell (wbieh
indeed rejoyceth our hearla, had wg the grace of uAot
vaage), the clocks that lei vs how the lime passes.
Truth and Conicience, that show tbe bounded vss and
decent forme of things, are tyed vp, and cannot be
heard. Stitl Fructun non inceaio, I Gnde no fruits. I
am sorry to pssse the fig-tree in this plight j but as I
Gnde it, so I must leave il, till the Lord mend it."—
Pp. 39, 40., 4to. Lond. 1623.
Baiuolbmsis.
fRiam fiattt.
Oh a " Ciutom ofjf Englgihe." — When a more
than ordinarily doubtM matter is offered us for
credence, we are apt to inquire of the teller if he
" sees any green " in our optics, accompanying the
□uerjtby an elevation of tne right eyelid with the
forefinger. Now, r^arding this merely as a
"fast" custom, I marvelled greatly at finding a
similar action noted by worthy Master Blun^ as
conveying t« bis mind aa analogous meaning.
I can scarcely credit its antiquity ; but what other
meaning can I understand from the episode ha
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relates ? He had been trying to pass himself ofif
as a native, but —
" The third day, in the morning, I, prying up and
dourn alone, met a Turke, who, in Italian, told me —
Ah! are you an Englishman, and with a kind of
malicious posture laying his forefinger under his eye,
methought he had the iookes of a designe.'* — Voyage in
tlie Levant, performed by Mr, Henry Blunt, p. 60. : Lond.
1650.
— a silent, but expressive, "posture," tending to
eradicate any previously formed opinion of the
verdantness of Mussulmans ! R. C. Warde.
Kidderminster.
Epitaph at Cray ford, — I send the following
lines, if you think them worthy an insertion in
yourEpitaphiana : a friend saw them in the church-
yard of Crayford, Kent.
" To the Memory of Peteb, Izod, who was thirty-
five years clerk of this parish, and always proved him-
self a pious and mirthful man.
" The life of this clerk was just three score and ten,
During half of which time he had sung out Amen.
He married when young, like other young men ;
His wife died one day, so he chaunted Amen.
A second he took, she departed, — what then ?
He married, and buried a third with Amen.
Thus his joys and his sorrows were treble, but then
His voice was deep bass, as he chaunted Amen.
On the horn he could blow as well as most men,
But his horn was exalted in blowing Amen.
He lost all his wind after threescore and ten.
And here with three wives he waits till again
The trumpet shall rouse him to sing out Amen."
Tradition reports these verses to have been com-
posed by some curate of the parish. Qu^stob.
The Font at Islip. —
" In the garden is placed a relic of some interest —
the font in which it is said King Edward the Con-
fessor was baptized at Islip. The block of stone in
which the basin of immersion is excavated, is unusually
massy. It is of an octangular shape, and the outside
is adorned by tracery work. The interior diameter of
the basin is thirty inches, and the depth twenty. The
whole, with the pedestal, which is of a piece with the
rest, is five feet high, and bears the following imperfect
inscription :
< This sacred Font Saint Edward first receavd.
From Womb to Grace, from Grace to Glory went,
His virtuous life. To this fayre Isle beqveth'd,
Prase .... and to vs but lent.
Let this remaine, the Trophies of his Fame,
A King baptizd from hence a Saint became.'
** Then is inscribed :
* This Fonte came from the King's Chapel/ in Islip.' "
Extracted from the Beauties of England and
Wales, title « Oxfordshire," p. 454.
In the gardens at Kiddington there —
<< was an old font wherein it is said Edward the Con-
fessor was baptized, being brought thither from an old
decayed chapel at Islip (the birth-place of that religious
prince), where it had been put up to an indecent use,
as well as the chapel." — Extracted from The English
Baronets, being a Historical and Genealogical Account of
their Families, published 1727.
The Viscounts Montague, and consequently the
Brownes of Kiddington, traced their descent from
this king through Joan de Beaufort, daughter of
John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster. C. B.
" As good as a Play,^' — I note this very or-
dinary phrase as having royal origin or, at least,
authority. It was a remark of King Charles IL,
when he revived a practice of his prectecessors,
and attended the sittings of the House of Lords.
The particular occasion was the debate, then
interesting to him, on Lord Koos* Divorce Bill.
W. T. M.
Hong Kong.
^xttxiti.
LOVETT OP ASTWELL.
It is stated in all the pedigrees of this family which
I have seen, that Thomas Lovett, Esq., of Astwell
in Northamptonshire, who died in 1542, married
for his first wife Elizabeth, daughter (Burke calls
her " heir," JExtinct Baronetage, p. 1 10.) of John Bo-
teler, Es(j., of Woodhall Watton, in Hertfordshire.
The pedigree of the Botelers in Clutterbuck's
Hertfordshire (vol. ii. p. 476.) does not notice this
marriage, nor is there any distinct allusion to it in
the wills of either ifamily. Thomas Lovett's will,
dated 20th November, 1542, and proved on the
following 19 th January, does not contain the
name of Boteler. {Testamenta Vetusta^ vol. ii.
p. 697.) His father Thomas Xovett, indeed, in
his will dated 29th October, 7 Henry VII., and
proved 28th January, 1492 (^Test. Vetust^ vol. ii.
E. 410.), bequeaths to Isabel Lovett and Margaret,
is daughters, "C2. which John Boteler oweth:
me," but he refers to no relationship between the
families. Again, **John Butteler, Esquier,** by
his will, dated 7th September, 1513, and proved
at Lambeth 11th July, 1515, appoints "his most
gracious Maister, Maister Thomas Louett," to be
supervisor of his will, and bequeaths to him ** a
Sauterbook as a poore remembraunce ; " but he
alludes to no marriage, nor does he mention a
daughter Elizabeth. This John Boteler is said
by Clutterbuck to have married three wives :
1. Katherine, daughter of Thomas Acton ; 2. Mar-
garet, daughter of Henry Belknap, who died
18th August, 1513; 3. Dorothy, daughter of
William Tyrrell, Esq., of Gipping in Suffolk : the
last-mentioned was the mother of his heir. Sir
Philip Boteler, Kt ; but I can nowhere fiuid who
was the mother of the son Bichard, and the
daughters Mary and Joyce mentioned in his willf
NOTES AND QUEKIES. [No. SOT.
Oct. 15. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
365
Did not Sir R. K. Porter write an account of
Sir John Moore's campaign in the Peninsula? —
What is the title of the book, and where can it be
procured ? *
Who was Charles Lempriere Porter (who died
Feb. 14, 1831, aged thirtj-one), mentioned on the
Porter tombstone in St. PauFs churchy ard at Bris-
tol ? — Who was Phoebe, wife of Dr. Porter, who
died Feb. 20, 1845, aged seventy-nine, and whose
name also occurs on this stone ?
Did this family (which is now supposed to be
extinct) claim descent from Endymion Porter,
the loyal and devoted adherent of King Charles
the Martyr ? D. Y. N.
Lord Ball of Bagshot — Coryat, in his Cm-
dities, vol. ii. p. 471., edit. 1776, tells us that at
St. Gewere, near Ober-Wesel —
<* There hangeth an yron collar fastened in the wall,
with one linke fit to be put upon a man*s neck, with-
out any manner of hurt to the party that weareth it.
** This collar doth every stranger and freshman, the
£rst time that he passeth that way, put upon his neck,
which he must weare so long standing till he hath re-
deemed himself with a competent measure of wine.*'
Coryat submitted himself to the collar " for no-
Telty sake,^* and he adds :
" This custome doth carry some kinde of affinity
with certain sociable ceremonies that wee have in a
place of England, which are performed by that most
reuerend Lord Ball of Bagshot, in Hampshire, who
tloth with many, and indeed more solemne, rites inuest
his brothers of his vnhallowed chappell of Basingstone
( Basingstoke ?) (as all our men of the westerne parts
of England do know by deare experience to the smart
of their purses), then these merry burgomaisters of
-Saint Gewere vse to do.**
Will any of your readers state whether the
Xiustom is remembered in Hampshire, and afford
explanation as to the most Kev. Lord Ball ? The
writers that I have referred to are silent, and I do
not find mention of the custom in the pages of
Mr. Urban. J.H. M.
Marcames. — In 6uillim*s Display of Heraldry
^6th edit., London, 1 724), sect. 2. chap. v. p. 32.,
occurs the following description of a coat of arms :
-" MarcarneSt vaire, a pale, sable."
There is no reference to a Heralds' Visitation,
x>r to the locality in which resided the family
bearing this name and coat. It is only mentioned
corporation : it was hung up in the Guildhall a fe\r
years since.
* In 1808, Sir R. K. Porter accompanied Sir John
Moore's expedition to the Peninsula, and attended the
campaign throughout, up to the closing catastrophe of
the battle of Corunna. On his return to England, he
published anonymously. Letters from Portugal and
^Mitn, written during the March' of the Troops under Sir
John Moore, 1809, 8v^ Ed.]
as an instance among many others of the use of a
pale in heraldry. I have searched many heraldic
books, as well as copies of Heralds* Visitations,
but cannot find the name elsewhere. Will any
herald advise me how to proceed farther in tracing
it ? G. R. M.
The Claymore, — What is the original weapon
to which belongs the name of claymore {claidk
mhor)? Is it the two-handed sword, or the
basket-hilted two-edged sword now bearing the
appellation ? Is the latter kind of sword peculiar
to Scotland ? They are frequently to be met
with in this part of the country. One was found
a few years since plunged up to the hilt in the
earth on the Cotswold Hills. It was somewhat
longer than the Highland broadsword, but exactly
similar to a weapon which I have seen, and which
belonged to a Lowland Whig gentleman slain at
Bothwell Bridge. If these swords be exclusively
Scottish, may they not be relics of the unhappy
defeat at Worcester ? Fbai^cis John Scott.
Tewkesbury.
Sir William Chester, Kt. — It is said of this
gentleman in all the Baronetages, that " he was a
great benefactor to the city of London in the time
of Edward VL, and that he became so strictly re-
ligious, that for a considerable time before his
death he retired from all business, entered himself
a fellow-commoner at Cambridge, lived there some
years, and was reputed a learned man.*' Did he
take any degree at Cambridge, and to what college
or hall did he belong ? Must there not be some
records in the University which will yield this in-
formation ? I observe the " Graduati Cantabri-
gienses ** only commence in 1659 in the printed list ;
but there must be older lists than this at Cam-
bridge. Collins mentions that he was so con-
spicuous in his zeal for the Reformed religion,
that he ran great risk of his life in Queen Mary*s
reign, and that one of his servants was burnt in
Smithfield. Can any one inform me of his au-
thority for this statement ? Tewabs.
r
Canning on the Treaty of 1824 between the
Netherlands and Great Britain, — When and under
what circumstances did Canning use the following
words? —
" The results of this treaty [of 1824 between England
and Holland, to regulate their respective interests in
the East Indies] were an admission of the principles
of free trade. A line of demarcation was drawn,
separating our territories from theirs, and ridding them
of their settlements on the Indian continent. All these
objects are now attained. We have obtained Sinca-
pore, we have got a free trade, and in return we have
given up Bencoolen."
Where are these words to be found, and what
is the title of the English paper called by the
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[No. 207.
French Courier du Commerce f — From the
Navorscher, L. D. S.
Ireland a bastinadoed Elephant. — '* And Ireland,
like a '^bastinadoed elephant, kneeled to receive
her rider." This sentence is ascribed by Lord
Byron to the Irish orator Curran. Diligent
search through his speeches, as published in the
United States, has been unsuccessful in finding it.
Can any of your readers " locate it," as we say in
the backwoods of America? A bastinado pro-
perly is a punishment inflicted by beating the soles
of the feet : such a flagellation could not very con-
veniently be administered to an elephant. The
* figure, if used by Curran, has about it the cha-
rtuster of an elephantine bull. tRS.
Philadelphia.
Memorial Lines by Thomas Aquinas, —
'* Thomas Aquinas summed up, in a quaint tetrastic^
twelve causes which might found sentences of nullity^
of repudiation, or of the two kinds of divorce ; to which
some other, as monkish as himself, added two more
lines, increasing the causes to fourteen, and to these
were afterwards added two more. The former are
[here transcribed from] the note :
' Error, conditio, votum, cognatio, crimen,
CultCks disparitas, vis, ordo, ligamen, honestas,
Si sis affinis, si forte coire nequibis^
Si parochi, et duplicis desit praesentia testis,
Raptave si mulier, parti neo reddita tuta» ;
Haec facienda vetant connubia, facta retractant.' **
From Essay on Scripture Doctrines ofAduUery
and Divorce, by H. V. Tabbs, 8yo. : Lond.
1822.
The subject was proposed, and a prize of fifly
pounds awarded to this essay, by the Society for
Propagating Christian Knowledge in the Diocese
of St. David*s in 1821. This appears to me to
have been a curious application of its funds by
such a society. Can any of your readers explain
it P Balliolbnsis.
" JohnsorCs turgid style " — " What does not
fade f " — Can any of your readers tell me where
to find the following lines ?
" I own I like not Johnson's turgid style,
That gives an inch th' importance of a mile,"
&c; &c.
And
*'Wliat does ifot fade? The tower which long has
stood
The crash of tempests, and the warring winds.
Shook by the sure but slow destroyer, Time,
Now hangs in doubtful ruins o*er its base,"
&c. &c.
A. F. B.
Meaning of " Lane^^ SfC, — By what process of
development could the Anglo-Saxon laen (i. e. the
English word lane^ and the Scottish loaning) have
obtained its present meaning, which answers to
that of the limes of the Roman ammensores f
What is considered to be the English measure-
ment of the Roman juger, and the authorities for
such measurement ?
What is the measurement of the Anglo-Saxon
hydey and the authorities for such measurement ?
H.
Theobald le Botiller. — What Theobald le Bo-
tiller did Rose de Vernon marry ? See Vernon,
in Bnrke*s Extinct Peerage ; Butler, in Lynch's
Feudal Dignities ; and the 2nd Butler (Ormond),
in Lodge's Peerage, Y. S. M.
WiUiamy fifth Lord Harrington, — Did William,
fif^h Lord Harrington, marry Margaret Neville
(see Burke*s Extinct Peerage) or Lady Catherine
Courtenay ? The latter is given in Burke^s Peer^
age and Baronetage^ in Sir John Harrington's
pedigree. Y. S. M.
Singular Discovery of a Cannon-bdU. — A heavy
cannon-shot, I should presume a thirty-two pound
ball, was found embedded in a large tree, cut
down some years since on the estate of J. W.
Martin, Esq., at Showborough, in the parish of
Twyning, (Gloucestershire. There was never till
quite lately any house of importance on the spot,
nor is there any trace of intrenchments to be dis-
covered. The tree stood at some distance from
the banks of the Avon, and on the other side of
that river runs the road from Tewkesbury through
Bredon to Pershore. The ball in question is
marked with the broad arrow. From whence and
at what period was the shot fired ?
Francis John Scott.
Tewkesbury.
Scottish Castles. — It is a popular belief, and
quoted frequently in the Statistical Account of
Scotlandj and other works referring to Scottish
affairs, that the fortresses of Edinburgh Castle,
Stirling Castle, Dumbarton Castle, Blackness
Castle, were appointed by the Articles of Union
between England and Scotland to be kept in
repair and garrisoned. Can any of your readers
refer to the foundation for this statement ? for no
reference is to be found to the subject in the
Articles of Union. Scbtmzeoub.
Edinburgh.
Sneezing, — Concerning sneezings it is a curious
circumstance that if any one should sneeze in
company in North Germany, those present will
say, "lour good health;" m Vienna, gentlemen
in a cafe will take off their hats, and say, " God
be with you ; " and in Ireland Paddy will say, " God
bless your honour," or " Long life to your honour."
I understand that in Italy and Spam similar ex-
pressions are used.; and I think I remember hear-
Oct. 15. 1853.] NOTES AND QUERIES.
ZM
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 207.
Can yovL or any of your readers furnish me with
the tUle of the book intended, or direct me to any
other sources of information on the subject of the
Honiton fires ? S. T.
^Notices of fires at Honiton occur in the following
irorks : — The Witdom and Righteousness of Divine
Providence, A sermon preached at Honiton on oc-
casion of a dreadful fire, 21st August, 1765, which
consumed 140 houses, a chapel, and a meeting>house.
By R. Harrison, 4to. 1765. — Shaw, in his Tow to
the West of England, p. 444., mentions a dreadful fire,
19th July, 1747, which reduced three parts of the
town to ashes. — Lysons* Devonshire, p. 281., states that
Honiton has been visited by the destructive calamity
of fire in 1672, 1747, 1754, and 1765. The last-men-
tioned happened on the 21st August, and was the most
calamitous; 115 houses were burnt down, and the
steeple of Allhallows Chapel, with the school, were
destroyed. The damage was estimated at above
10,500/.]
Michaelmas Ooose, — The following little incon-
Ai&tency in a commonly-received tradition has led
me, at the request of a large party of well-read
and literary friends, to request your solution of
the difficulty in an early Number of your paper.
It is currently reported, and nine men in ten
will tell you, if you ask them the reason why
goose is always eaten on the 29th Sept.,'or Michael-
mas Day, that Queen Elizabeth was eating goose
when the news of the destruction of the Invincible
Armada was brought, and she immediately put
down her knife and fork, and said, *^ From this da^
forth let all British-born subjects eat goose on this
day."
Now in Creasy^s Battles it is stated that the
Spanish fleet was destroyed in the month of July.
How could it then be the 29th of Sept when the
news of its defeat reached her majesty f If any of
your readers can solve this seeming improbability
he will greatly oblige Michaelmas Day.
[Although it may be difficult to show how it is that
the custom of eating goose has in this country been
transferred to Michaelmas Day, while on the Continent
it is observed at Martinmas, from which practice the
goose is often called St. Martin's bird, it is very easy to
prove that there is no foundation for the tradition
referred to by our correspondent. For the following
extract from Stow*s Annates (ed. Howes), p. 749., will
show that, so far from the news of the defeat of the
Armada not reaching Elizabeth until the 29th of
September, public thanksgivings for the victory had
been offi*red on the 20th of the preceding month :
**On the 20th of August, M. Nowell, Deane of
Paules, preached at Paules Crosse, in presence of the
lord Maior and Aldermen, and the companies in their
best liveries, moving them to give laud and praise
unto Almightie God, for the great victorie by him
given to our English nation, by the overthrowe of the
Spanish fleete.*']
P0BTRAIT8 or H0BBB8 AND LETTERS OF HOLLAB.
(Vol.viii., p.221.)
Althou^ I cannot answer the c[uestion of Sib
Waltee Teeveltan, the following notices re-
specting the portraits of the Philosopher of
Malmesbury may not be unacceptable to nim and
to those who hold this distinguished man*s memory
in high respect.
That admirable gossip, John Aubrey, who lived
in habits of intimacy with Hobbes, has left us such
a lively picture of the man, his person, and his
manners, as to leave nothing to desire. In reading
it we cannot but regret that Aubrey had not been
a cotemporary of our great poet, about whom he
has been only able to furnish us with some hearsay
anecdotes.
Aubrey tells us that —
" Sir Charles Scarborough, M. D., Physician to hit
Royal Highness the Duke of York, much loved the
conversation of Hobbes, and hath a picture of him
(drawne about 1655), under which is this distich :
* Si qusris de me, mores inquire, sed ille
Qui qusrit de me, forsitan alter erit.' *'
** In their meeting (t. e, the Royal Society) at Gresham
College is his picture drawne by the life, 1663, by a
good hand, which they much csteeme, and several
copies have been taken of it."
In a note Aubrey says :
" He did me the honour to sit for his picture to
Jo. Baptist Caspars, an excellent painter, and *tis a
good piece. I presented it to the Society twelve years
since.**
In other places he tells us :
** Amongst other of his acquaintance I must not
forget Mr. Samuel Cowper (Cooper), the prince of
limners of this last age, who drew his picture as like
as art could afford, and one of the best pieces that ever
he did ; which his Mi^esty, at his retume, bought of
him, and conserves as one of his greatest rarities in his
closet at Whitehall.**
In a note he adds :
** This picture I intend to be borrowed of his Ma-
jesty for Mr. Loggan to engrave an accurate piece by,
which will sell well both at home and abroad."
Again he says :
** Mr. S. Cowper (at whose house Hobbes and Sir
William Petty often met) drew his picture twice : the
first the King has ; the other is yet in the custody of
his (Cooper*s) widowe; but he (Cowper) gave it in-
deed to me (and I promised I would give it to the
archives at Oxon), but I, like a fool, did not take pos-
session of it, for something of the garment was not
quite finished, and he died, I being then in the
country.'*
Oct. 15. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
369
This picture is, I believe, now in my possession.
It is a small half-length oil painting, measuring
about twelve inches by nine. Hobbes is repre-
sented at an open arch or window, with his book,
the Leviathan, open before him ; the dress is, as
Aubrey states, unfinished, and beneath is the re-
markable inscription, —
" AUT EGO INSAKIO SOLUS : AUT EGO SOLUS NON IKSAKIO.**
It represents the philosopher at an advanced age,
and is conformable in every respect to the follow-
ing description of his person :
** In his old age he was very bald, yet within dore he
used to study and sit bareheaded, and said he never
tooke cold in his head, but that the greatest trouble
was to keepe off the flies from pitching on the bald-
ness. His head was of a mallet forme, approved by
the physiologers. His face not very great, ample
forehead, yellowish-red whiskers, which naturally
turned up ; belowe he was shaved close, except a
little tip under his lip ; not but that nature would
have afforded him a venerable beard, but being mostly
of a cheerful and pleasant humour, he affected not at
all austerity and gravity, and to look severe. He con-
sidered gravity and heavinesse of countenance not so
good marks of assurance of God's favour, as a cheerful,
charitable, and upright behaviour, which are better
signes of religion than the zealous maintaining of con-
troverted doctrines. He had a good eie, and that of a
hazel colour, which was full of life and spirit, even to
his last ; when he was in discourse, there shone (as it
were) a bright live coale within it. He had two
kinds of looks ; when he laugh t, was witty, and in a
merry humour, one could scarce see his eies ; by and
by, when he was serious and earnest, he opened his
eies round his ele-lids : he had middling eies, not very
big nor very little. He was six foote high and some-
thing better, and went indifferently erect, or rather,
considering his great age, very erect.'*
Aubrey was one of the patrons of Hollar, of
whom he has also given us some brief but in-
teresting particulars. The two following letters,
which were transcribed by Malone when he con-
templated a publication of the Aubrey papers,
deserve preservation ; indeed, one of them relates
immediately to the subject of this notice :
« Sir,
** I have now done the picture of Mr. Hobbes, and
have showed it to some of his acquaintance, who say it
to be very like ; but Stent has deceived me, and maketh
demurr to have it of me ; as that at this present my
labour seemetli to be lost, for it lyeth dead by me.
However, I retume you many thankes for lending mce
the Principall, and I have halve a dozen copies for
you, and the painting I have delivered to your Mes-
senger who brought it to mee before.
^ Your humble servant,
<* W. Hollar.
« The 1st of August, 1661."
" [For Mr. Aubrey.]
« Sir,
** I have beene told this morning that you are in
Town, and that you desire to speak with mee, so I did
presently repaire to your Lodging, but they told mee
that you went out at 6 o'clock that morning, and it
was past 7 then. If I could know certaine time when
to finde you I would waite on you. My selve doe
lodge without St. Clement's Inne back doore ; as soon
as you come up the steps and out of that doore is the
first house and doore on the left hand, two paire of
staires into a little passage right before you ; but I am
much abroad, and yet enough at home too.
" Your most humble servant,
« W. Hollar.
** If you had occasion to aske for mee of the people
of the house, then you must say the Frenchman
Limmner, for they know not my name perfectly, for
reasons sake, otherwise you may goe up directly.*'
This minute localising of one of the humble
workshops of this admirable artist may not be
unacceptable to Mb. Feteb CuNNiiiGHAjf for some
future edition of his very interesting Handbook
of London, It may not be amiss to add that
Hollar died on the 25 th of March, 1677, in the
seventieth year of his age, and that he was buried
in St. Margaret*s churchyard, Westminster, near
the north-west comer of the tower, but without
a stone to mark the spot. S. W. Sinqbr.
Mickleham.
PAROCHIAL LIBBABIES.
(Vol viii., p. 62.)
In the vestry of the fine old priory church at
Cartmel, in Lancashire, there is a good library,
chiefly of divinity, consisting of about three hun-
dred volumes, placed in a commodious room, and
kept in nice order. This small but valuable col-
lection was left to the parish by Thomas Preston,
of Holker, Esq.
There is another in the vestry of the church at
Castleton, in Derbyshire; or rather in a room
built expressly to contain them, adjoining the
vestry. They were left to the parish by the Rev.
James Farrer, M.A., who had been vicar of Cas-
tleton for about forty-five years, and consist of
about two thousand volumes in good condition,
partlv theological and partly miscellaneous, about
equally divided, which are lent to the parishioners
at the discretion of the vicar. Mr. Farrer left
behind him a maiden sister, and a brother-in-law
Mr. Hamilton, who resided in Bath ; the former
of whom erected the room containing the books,
and a vestry at the same time; and both con-
siderably augmented the number of volumes, and
made the library what it now is.
Under the chancel of the spacious and venerable
parish church of Halifax, in Yorkshire, are some
large rooms upon a level with the lower part of
the churchyard, in one of which is contamed a
good library of books. Robert Clay, D.D., vicar
of Halifax, who died April 9, 1628, was buried ia
this library, which he is said to have built.
S70
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 207.
In the Bech^ Home >t Whitchurcli, in Slirop-
■hire, built by Richard Newcome, D.D., rector of
that place, and aftenrardt Bishop of St. Asaph,
Ibere is a, T^uable llbrarj left: as an heirloom by
the beqoeflt of Jane, Countess Dovaper of Bridj;e-
wmter; who, in the year 1707, having purchaaed
firam his executors the library of the Reverend
Clement Santey, D.D., rector of Whitchurch, for
S051., left it for ever for the use of the rectors for
the time being. The number of the volumes was
2250 : amongst which are a fine copy of Walton's
Pdpghtt Bible, some of the ancient Fathers, and
other valuable theological works. This collection
has been subsequenuy increased by a bequest
from the late Rev. Francis Henry, Earl of Bridge-
water (of eccentric memory), rector of Whitchurch,
who by his wilt, dated in 1S2S, gave the whole of
hii own txK^ in the Rectory House st Whitchurch,
to be added to the others, and left also the sum of
I60I. to the rector to be invested in his name, and
the dividends thereof expended by him, together
with the money arising from the sale of his lord-
ship's wines and liquors in his cellan at Whit-
church, in the purchase of printed booba fbr t^
arc of the rectors of that parish for the time being.
The same noble earl presented to the rector of
Middle, in the county of Salop, a small collection
of books towards founding a library there : and
bequeatbed by his will the sum of 8001., to be ap-
plied, under the direction of the rector of Middle
for the time being, for augmenting this library.
He also left a farther sum of ISOl. to be invested
in the name of the rector ; and the diridends
thereof expended by him in the purchase of books
fbr the continual augmentation of the library, in
tie same manner as he bad done at WTiitohurdi.
It is to this Earl of Bridgewater that we are
indebted not only for those valuable works the
Bridgemater TreatUes, but also for large be-
quests of money and landed property to the trus-
tees of the British Museum, for the purchase of
manuscripts, in addition to those from his own
collection, which he had already bequeathed to the
same institution. Taos. Coksbk.
Stand Rector;.
" FartiaOan of Hie Ghrioiu Tlctory eUalitd by Mb
Engliih Cavalry over Ihe Fttvch under Ike Command
of General dap nil, al Troiioillt, on lAt i6tk of April,
1794.
" On the 35th, according to orders received trota the
Committee of Public Safetj, and subsequently IVom
General Pichegru, General Chapuii, *lio commaaded
the Camp of Caraar, inarched from tbence with his
whole force, consisting of 35,000 infantry, 3000 OBvalry,
and leienty-live pieces of cannon. At Cambray be
divided them into three columns; the one nurehed
by Ligny, and attacked the redoubt at Troiuille,
which wSB molt gollanlly defended by Col. CongTeve
Bigainst this column of 10,000 men. lie second
column was then united, consisting of 12,000 men,
which marched on the high road as far as Beausoii,
and from that village turned offto join the first column {
and the attack recommenced against CoL Congravels
redoubt, who kept the whole at bay. Tbe enemy's
flank was supported by the village of Caudiy, to de-
fend which they bid six pieces of cannon, £000 in-
fantry, and 500 caialry. During this period Gen,
Otto conceived it practicable to fall on their dank
with the cavalry \ in consequence of which, Gen.
Mansel, with about 1450 men — consisting of the
Bluei, 1st and 3rd Dragoon Guards, £th Dragoon
Guards, and Ut Dragoons, 15th and 16th Dragoons,
with Gen. Dundas, and a divlsioa of Auitiian cuicaB-
siers, and another of Archduke Ferdlnsnd's hussan
under Prince Swartienburg — after several manoniTres,
came up with the enemy in tbe lillage of Caudry,
through which they charged, putting the cavalry to
flight, and putting a number of infantry to the sword,
sod taking the cannon. Gen. Chapuis, perceiving th*
attack on the village of Caudry, sent down the regt-
ment of carabineeti to support those troops; but tixa
succour csme too late, and this regiment was charged
by the English light dragoons and the hussars, and
immediately gave way with some little loss. The
charge was then eonlinued against a battery of eight
pieces of eannon behind a small ravine, which was soon
carried ; and, with equal rapidity, tbe heavy cavalry
rushed an to attack a battery of fourteen pieces of
cannon, placed on an eminence behind a very steep
inks fell ; and
(VoL viii., pp. 8. 127.)
I am in a position to furnish a more complete
account of this skirmish, and of tbe action of
April 26, in which my grandfather, General
Mansel, fell, from a copy of the Evaning Mail of
May 14, 1794, now in the possession of J. C
Mansel, Esq., of Cosgrove Hall, Northamptonshire.
Your correspondent Mb. T. C. Smith appears to
have been misinformed as to the immediate Bup<
preaaion of the Poetical SHetchei by an officer of
the cannon, being loaded with grape, did tc
tion : however, a coniiderable body, with Gun, Mansel
at their head, passed the ravine, and charged the can-
non with inconceivable intrepidity, and Iheir eSbrts
were crowned with tbe utmost sucoess. This erent
decided the day, and the remaining time was passed
In cutting down battalions, till every mao and horse
was obliged to give up the pursuit from fatigue. It
was at the mouth of this battery that tbe brave and
worthy Cen. Mansel was shot : onp grape-shot enter-
ing bu chin, fracturing the spine, and coming out be-
tween the shoulders ; and tha other breaking his arm
to splinters ; his horse was also killed nnder him, his
Brigade-M^jar Payne's horse shot, and his son and
aide-de-camp, Capt. Manael, wounded and taken pri-
toner; and it is since known that he was taken into
*^ Oct. 15. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
371
* Arras. The French lost between 14,000 and 15,000
men killed ; we took 580 prisoners. The loss in tum-
1 brils and ammunition was immense, and in ail fifty
' pieces of cannon, of which thirty-five fell to the English;
, twenty-seven to the heavy, and eight to the light
cavalry. Thus ended a day which will redound with
immortal honour to the bravery of the British cavalry,
^ who, assisted by a small body of Austrians, the whole
■ not amounting to 1500, gained so complete a victory
» over 22,000 men in sight of their corps de reserve, con-
i sisting of 6000 men and twenty pieces of cannon.
Had the cavalry been more numerous, or the infantry
able to come up, it is probable few of the French
would have escaped. History does not furnish such
an example of courage.
" The whole army lamented the loss of the brave
General, who thus gloriously terminated a long mili-
tary career, during which he had been ever honoured,
esteemed, and respected by all who knew him. It
should be some consolation to those he has left behind
him, that bis reputation was as unsullied as bis soul
was honest ; and that be died as be lived, an example
of true courage, honour, and humility. On the 24th
General Mansel narrowly escaped being surrounded at
Villers de Couch^ by the en^my, owing to a mistake
of General Otto*s aide-de-camp, who was sent to bring
up the heavy cavalry : in doing which he mistook the
way, and led them to the front of the enemy's cannon,
by which the 3rd Dragoon Guards suffered consider-
ably.**— Extract from the Evening Mail, May 14, 1794.
From the above extract, compared with the
coinmunication of Mb. Smith (Vol. viiL, p. 127.),
it appears that tbe 15th Light Dragoons were en-
gaged in both actions, that of ViUers en Couche
on April 24, and that of Troisoille (or Gateau) on
the 26th. In the statement communicated by
Mb. Simpson (Ibid. p. 8.), there appears to be
some confusion between the particulars of tbe two
engagements. H. L. Mansel, B.D.
St. John's College, Oxford.
As the action at Villers en Couche has lately
been brought before your readers, allow me to
direct your correspondent to the Journals and
Correspondence of Sir Harry Calvert, edited by
Sir Harry Verney, and just published by Messrs.
Hurst and Co., — a book which contains a good
deal of valuable information respecting a memor-
able campaign. Sir Harry Calvert, under the
date of the 25th of April, 1794, thus describes the
action at Villers en Couche :
" Since Tuesday, as I foresaw was likely, we have
been a good deal on the qui vive. On Wednesday
morning we had information that the enemy had moved
in considerable force from the Camp de C^sar, and
early in the afternoon we learned that they had crossed
the Selle at Saultzoir, and pushed patrols towards
Quesnoy and Valenciennes. The Duke [of York]
sent orders to General Otto, who had gone out to
Cambray on a reconnoitring party with light dragoons
and hussars, to get into the rear of the enemy, find out
their strength, and endeavour to cut them off. The
enemy retired to Villers en Coucb^ that night, but
occupied Saultzoir and Haussy. Otto, finding their
strength greater than he expected, about 14,000, early
in the evening sent in for a brigade of heavy cavalry
for his support, which marched first to Fontaine An-
tarque, and afterwards to St. Hilaire ; and in the
night he sent for a farther support of four battalions
and some artillery. Unfortunately he confided this
important mission to a hussar, who never delivered it,
probably having lost his way, so that, in the morning,
the general found himself under the necessity of
attacking with very inferior numbers. However, by
repeated charges of his light cavelry, he drove the
enemy back into their camp, and took three pieces of
cannon. He had, at one time, taken eight ; but tbe
enemy, bringing up repeated reinforcements of fresh
troops, retook five.
<* Our loss I cannot yet ascertain, but I fear the 15th
Light Dragoons have suffered considerably. Two
battalions of the enemy are entirely destroyed."
The especial bravery of the troops engaged on
the 26th, which is another subject noticed by your
correspondent Bibliothecak. Chetham j)rompted
the following entry on his journal by Sir Harry
Calvert :
" April 26. — The enemy made a general attack on
the camp of the allies. On their approaching the
right of the camp, the Duke of York directed a
column of heavy cavalry, consisting of tbe regiment
of Zedwitsch Cuirassiers, the Blues, Royals, 1st, Srd,
and 5th Dragoon Guards, to turn the enemy, or en-
deavour to take them in flank, which service they per-
formed in a style beyond all praise, charging repeat-
edly through the enemy's column, and taking twenty-
six pieces of cannon. The light dragoons and hussars
took nine pieces on the left of the Duke's camp.*'
Sir Harry Verney has printed in an Appendix
his father's well-considered plans for the defence
of the country against the invasion anticipated in
1796. J. B.
ATTAINMENT OF MAJORITY.
(Vol. viii., pp. 198. 250. 296.)
The misunderstanding which has arisen between
Professor De Morgan and A. E. B. has pro-
ceeded, it appears, from the misapplication of the
statement of the latter*s authority (Arthur Hop-
ton) to the question at issue. Where Hopton
says that our lawyers count their day from sunrise
to sunset, he, I am of opinion, merely refers to
certain instances, such as distress for rent :
" A man cannot distrain for rent or rent-charge in
the night (which, according to tlie author of The Mirror,
is after sunset and before sunrising)." — Impey on
DiUress and Replevin, p. 49.
In common law, the day is now supposed among
lawyers to be from six in the morning to seven at
night for service of notices ; in Chancery, till eight
at night. And a service after such times at night
372
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 207.
ipould be counted as good only for the next day.
In tiie ca«e of Liffin v. Pitcher, 1 Dowl. N. S.
767., Justice Coleridge said, " I am in the habit
of giving twenty-four hours to plead when I give
one day.** Thus it will be perceived that a
lawyer*s day is of difierent lengths.
With regard to the time at which a person
arrives at majority, we have good authority in
support of Fbofessos De Morgan's statement :
** So that foil af^ in roale or female is twenty-one
yean, which age is completed on the day preceding
the anaiversary of a person^s birth, who till that time
is an infknt, and so styled in law.*' — Blackstone's
CwHmen/ariet, vol. i. p. 463.
There is no doubt also that the law rejects
fractions of a day where it is possible :
** It is clear that the law rcjecteth all fractions of
days for the uncertainty, and commonly allows him
that hath part of the day in law to have the whole day,
unless where it, by fraction or relation, may be a pre-
judice to a third person.** — Sir O. Bridgm. 1 .
And in respect to the present case it is auite
clear. In the case of Re^. v. The Parish of St
Mary, Warwick, reported in the Jurist (vol. xvii.
p. 55l.\ Lord Campbell said :
** In some cases the Court does not regard the fraction
of a day. Where the question is on what day a person
«ame of age, the fraction of the day on which he was
born and on which he came of age is not considered."
And farther on he says :
" It is a general maxim that the law does not regard
the fraction of a day.**
Russell Gole.
I only treat misquotation as an offence in the
old sense of the word ; and courteously, but most
positively, I deny the right of any one who quotes
to omit, or to alter emphasis, without stating what
he has done. That A. E. B. did misunderstand
me, I was justified in inferring from his implica-
tion (p. 198. col. 2.) that I made the day begin " a
minute after midnight."
Arthur Hopton, whom A. E. B. quotes against
me (but the quotation is from chapter xiv., not
xiii.), is wrong in his law. The lawyers, from
Coke down to our own time, give both days, the
natural and artificial, as legal days. See Coke
Littleton (Index, Day), the current commentators
on Blackstone, and the usual law dictionaries.
Nevertheless, this discussion will serve the
purpose. No one denies that the day of majority
now begins at midnight : no one pretends to prove,
by evidence of decisions, or opinion of writers on
law, that it began otherwise in 1600. How then
did Ben Jonson make it begin, as clearly A. E. B.
shows he does, at six o*c1ock (meaning probably a
certain sunrise) ? Hopton throws out the natural
day altogether in a work on chronology, and lays
down the artificial day as the only one known to
lawyers : it is not wonderful that Jonson should
have fallen into the same mistake.
A. De Mobgak.
8IMILABITT OF IDEA IN ST. LUKE A19D JUVEKAL.
(Vol. viii., p. 195.)
I send, as a pendant to Mb. Weib*s lines from
Juvenal, the following extract from Cicero :
'* Sed in ek es urbe, in qu& hec, vel plura, et ornatiora,
parietes ipti loqui posse videantur.** — Cio,Epi8t,\, vi. S.:
Torquato, Pearce*s 12mo. edition.
Most, if not all, of the readers of ^^ N. Sc Q.*' are,
I believe, pleased by having their attention drawn
to parallel passages in which a similarity of idea
or thought IS found. Let us adopt for conciseness
the term ** parallel passages ** (frequently used in
" N. & Q.**)) ^ embracing every kind of similarity.
Contributions of such passages to ** N. & Q.** would
form a very interesting collection. I should be
particularly pleased b^ a full collection of parallel
passages from the Scriptures and ancient and mo-
dern literature, and especiallj^ Shakspeare. (See
Mb. Buckton^s " Shakspcarian Parallels,** anti^
p. 240.)
To prevent sending passages that have been in-
serted in " N. & Q.," every note should refer to
the note immediately preceding. I send the fol-
lowing parallel passages with some hesitation, be-
cause I have not my volumes of ** N. & Q.** at
hand, to ascertain whether they have already ap-
peared, and because they are. probably familiar to
your readers. I do not, however, send them as
novelties, but as a contribution to the collection
which I wish to see made :
" 'Airb 8^ T»0 fi^ fx'^vros Koi £ Ix*^ if>^<rcTOi Air*
at)ToS.**— Afa^/. xxv. 29., Luke xix. 26.
*' Nil habuit Codrus. Quis enim hoc negat ? et tamen
illud
Perdidit infelix totum nihil.** — Juvenal, i. ilL 208.
The rich man says :
** ^ux^, ^X*^ ToWh iiyaBii KtlfMva ctr irri ToWd' &va-
Td^ov, ^dyt, ir/c, (^patvov,"* — Luke xii. 19.
"Lo, this is the man that took not God for his
strength : but trusted unto the multitude of his
riches.**— Pt, lii. 8.
" For he hath said in his heart. Tush, I shall never
be cast down : there shall no harm happen unto me.** — .
P», X. 6., &0. (See Ohadiah v. 3. : ** Who shall bring
me down to the ground ? **)
So Niobe boasts :
** Felix sum, quis enim boo neget ? felixque manebo.
Hoc quoque quis dubitet ? tutam me copia fecit.
MiU'or sum quam cui possit Fortuna nocere.**
Ovid, Met vi. 1D4^
Oct. 15. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
37S
^ov covy riiv 8i iv r^ a^ d<f>6a\fJUf doxhu ou KaravotTs,**
MatL vil 3*
** Cum tua per videos oculis mala lippus inunctis^
Cur in amicorum vitiis tam cernis acutum,
Quam aut aquila, aut serpens Epidaurius ? "
Hor. Serm. i. iiL 25.
**'H vh^ irpoiKo^cv, ri 5i ^/nepa ifyyiKcv.'* — JRom, xiii.
12.
t>
** 'AAA' tofjify • /iciAo yitp vh^ Hverai, lyy{>di V ^6s.*
Hom. Iliad, x. 251.
F. W. J.
Brighton.
PHOTOGRAPHIC COBBESPOHDENCE.
Mr. SissorCs developing Fluid, — Since I sent
you the new formula for Mr. Sisson*s positive de-
veloper, which you published in Vol. viii., p. 301.,
Mr. Sisson has written to me to say that if, in-
stead of the acetic acid, you add two drachms of
formic acid, the new agent proposed by Mr. Lyte,
you certainly obtain the sweetest-toned positives
he has ever seen. The pictures, he says, come out
very quickly with it indeed ; and with a small
lens in a sitting-room he can iu about ten seconds
obtain the most wonderful detail. Every wrinkle
in the' face, and ladies* lace ribbons or cap-strings,
he says, come out beautifully.
The formula then, as improved by Mr. Sisson,
IS —
Water ...
-
- 5 oz.
Protosulphate of iron -
-
- IJ drs.
Nitrate of lead
m
- 1 dr.
Formic acid - - -
m
- 2 drs.
Perhaps you will give your readers the benefit
of it in your next Number. Having tried it my-
self, I think they will be delighted with the beau-
tiful white silvery tone, without any metallic re-
flection, produced in pictures developed with it.
J. Leaghman.
20. Compton Terrace, Islington.
Dr. Diamond's Process for Albumenized Paper,
— Photographers are under many obligations to
Dr. Diamond, particularlv for the valuable in-
formation communicated through " N. & Q./* and
fais obligingness in answering inquiries. I make
no doubt he will readily reply to the following
questions, suggested by his late letter on the pro-
cess for printing on albumenized paper.
Will the solution of forty grains of common salt
and' forty grains of mur. amm., without the albumen,
be found to answer for ordinary positive paper
(say Canson^s, Turner's, or Whatman's) ? and, in
that case, may it be applied with a brash ?
Will the K)rty-grain solution of nit. sil. (with-
out amm.) answer for paper so prepared? and
may this idso be applied with a brush r
Should the positives be printed out Terj
strongly ? and how long should they remain in
the saturated bath of hypo. ?
Is not the use of sel d*or subject to the objec-
tion that the pictures with which it is used are
liable to fade in time ?
Dr. Diamond says that pictures produced by
the use of amm. nit. of silver are not to be de-
pended on for permanency. If this be so, it is
very important it should be known, as the use of
amm. nit. is at present generally recommended
and adopted. C. E« F.
Mr, Lytis New Process, — Although I presume
it is none of your affair what is said or done in
" another place," will you kindly ask Mb. Lttb
for me, if he will be so good as to explain the
discrepancy which appears between his "new
processes," as given in the Journal of the Photo-
graphic Society of Sept. 21, and "N. & Q." <rf'
Sept. 10? In the former he says, for sensitizinv^,
take (amongst other things) iodide of ammoma
60 grains : in " N. & Q.,' on the contrary, what
would seem to be the same receipt, or intended as
the same, gives the quantity of this salt one fonr^
less, 45 grains — a vast difference. Again, in
the developing solution the quantity of formic
acid is double in your paper what it is in the
journal.
I should not have trespassed on your space, but
would have written to Mr. Lyte directly, except
from the fear that some other unfortunate prac-
titioner may have stumbled over the same impedi-
ment as I have done, and may not have had
courage to make the inquiry. S. B.
[Having forwarded this communication to Mju
Lyte, we have received from that gentleman the fol-
lowing explanations of his process, &c.2
The process which was published in the Phato^
graphic Journal was, I am sorry to say, not qnite
correct in its proportions, on account of a mistake
in inclosing the wrong letter to the Editor ; but
the mistake will, I trust, be rectified by another
communication which I have now sent.
The whole of the formulae, however, as givea m
" N. & Q.," are quite correct.
Let me now, however, trespass on yonr pages
by a few more answers to several other Querists,
and which at the same time may be acceptable to
some of your readers.
1. The developing agents which are made with
iron are very applicable as baths to immerse the
plate in ; and the formic acid, from its powerftd
deoxidizing property, renders the iron salt more
stable during long use and exposure to the air.
2. In coating paper with albumen, if the upper
edge of the paper be sufficiently turned back, and
the paper be forced down sufficiently on to the
surface of the albumen, no bubbles will form ; and
374
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 207.
the operator vriVL not be troubled with the streaks
so often complained of.
3. No time can possibly be fixed for the expo-
sure of the positive to the action of the hypo. ; and
to produce the best effeots, the positive must be
continually watched, both while printing and
while in the hypo.
4. Ko hot iron should be applied to the positive
afler beins printed, but the picture should be al-
lowed to Srj spontaneously.
5. The developing agent with the pyrogallic
and formic acids will keep good a very long time,
longer, I think, than that in which acetic acid is
used, but cannot be used as a dipping bath.
6. I find the formic acid which I obtain from
difierent chemists rather variable in its strength.
What I use is rather below the average strength,
so that in general about six drachms of the com-
mercial acid will suffice where I use one ounce ;
but the excess seems to produce no bad result.
7. A ^reat advantage of the pyrogallic deve-
loper which I recommend, is that of its being able
to be diluted to almost any extent, with no other
result than simply making the development slower.
Another point is also worthy of notice, viz. a
method by which even a very weak positive on
glass may be converted into a very strong negative.
I take a saturated solution of bichloride of
mercury in hydrochloric acid, and add of thb one
to six parts of water. This I pour over the col-
lodion plate, and watch it till the whitening pro-
cess is quite complete. Having well washed the
surface with water, I pour over it a solution of
iodide of potassium, very weak, not more than
two or three grains to the ounce of wat^r. The
efiect of this is to turn the white parts to a bril-
liant yellow, quite impervious to actinic rays.
This process is only applicable to weak negative
or instantaneous pictures, as, if used on a picture
of much intensity, the opacity produced is too
great. By using, however, instead of the iodide
of potassium, a weak solution of ammonia, as re-
commended by Mr. Hunt, a less degree of intensity
may be produced ; again a less intensity by hypo-
sulphate of soda ; and a less degree again, but still
a slight darkening, by pouring on the bidiloride,
and pouring it off at once, fefore the whitening
commences. I thus can tell the exact degree of
negative effect in any picture of whatever intensity.
The terchloride of gold is most uncertain in its
results, at any rate 1 find it so.
I must again beg you to excuse the sreat length
of my communication, and hope it will be of ser-
vice to my fellow photographers.
F. Maxwell Lttb.
Florian, Torquay.
Derivation of the Word " Island " (Vol. viii.,
p. 49.). — I have received through the kindness of
Hensleigh Wedgwood, Esq., a copy of the Philo-
logical Journal fi>r Feb. 21, 1851, in which my late
observations on the etymology of the word island
are shown to be almost identical with his own,
published more than two years ago, even the
minutest particulars. His own surprise on seeing
my remarks must have been at least as great as
my own, on learning how singularly I had been
anticipated ; and those of your readers who will
refer to the number of the journal in question, will
be doubtless as much surprised as either of us.
This coincidence suggests two things : first, the
truth of the etymology in question ; secondly, the
excellency of that spirit which (as in this instance)
*' thinketh no evil ; and, in so close a resemblance
of ideas as that before us, rather than at once start
a charge of plagiarism, will believe that it is pos-
sible for two persons, with similar habits of thought^
to arrive at the same end, and that, too, by singu-
larly identical means, when engaged on one and
the same subject. H. G. K.
Rectory, Hereford.
" Pistus and Arria " (Vol. viii., p. 219.). —As I
have not observed a reply to the Query respect-
ing the author of Pcetus and Arria^ a tragedy, I
beg to state that the work was not written by a
gentleman of the University of Cambridge, out
by Mr. Nicholson, son of Mr. Nicholson, a well-
known and highly respectable bookseller in Cam-
bridge, in the early part of the present century.
The young man, who, besides bemg unfailing in
his attention to business, had a literary turn, and
was attached to the fine arts, died in the prime of
life. Afler his death, the poor father, with tears
in his eyes, presented me with a copy of the
tragedy. I am glad to record this testimony to
the character of persons well known to me during
several years. Mojprvs Ilior^.
''That Swinney'' (Vol. viii., p. 213.) I am
well pleased with the manner in which T. S. J.
has unearthed "that Swinney," if indeed, as is
very probable, Sidney Swinney really was the
man who interfered wildi the great unknown. It
may not be impertinent to state that Sidney
Swinney, who was of Clare Hall, Cambridge, be-
came B.A. in 1744, M.A. in 1749, and D.D.
(per solium) in 1763. It may also be worth noting
that a Geor^ Swinney, of the same college, be*
came B.A. in 1767, and M.A. in 1770. This
Oeorge Swinney may have been Sidney Swinney's
son, or his near relatioQ ; and may have been tiie
man who went to Lord G. Sackville in July, 1769 ;
but I think this not likdy. I will only observe
farth^ that, in the "Graduati Cantabrigienses,*'
Oct. 15. 1853.]
KOTES AND QUEMES.
the names &re spelled Steiney ; bnt chuigea of thii
kind, bj the psrties themselves, are b; no meiuiB
The question, whether Swinne]! had erer before
3oken to LordG. Sackville, remains unanswered,
though Junius most probably made a mistake in
that matter. VimBrxiHB Weaioii.
The &t Oatei of Troy (Toi. viii., p. 288.)- —
The passive of Dsres relative to the gates of
Troj desenbes the deeds of Priam on succeeding
to the throne :
" Prlamus ut Ilium venit, n
a r«cit, a
I red-
didit Regiim quoque KdiGcavit, et ibi Jot!
Ilio parUs fecit, qu arum hiec sunt nomina: Antenorea,
Dardaaia, Ilia, Scica, Tbymbrn, Trojani. Deinde,
postquam Ilium stabilitum Tidit, lempua eipectavit." —
Chap. 4.
It will be observed that these six names corre-
rnd with the six names in Shakspeare, except
t Shakspeare, following some ignorant tran-
scriber, substitutes Cketm for Sciean,
The work, consisting of forty-four short chap-
ters, which has come down to ns under the title of
De Excidio TroftE Historia, bj Dares Phrygius,
is a pseudonymous productioo, nliich cannot be
placed earlier than the fifth or sixth century.
See the preface to the edition of Dederitk, Bonne,
1633 ; or tJie article " Dares," by Dr. Schmitz, in
Dr. Smith's Dictionary of Greek aitd Roman Bio-
graphy. Other writers spoke of four gates of
Troy. (See Heyne, Exc. iiv. ad Mn. ii.) L.
Mmon'$ Widow (Vol. Tii., p. 396. ; Vol. Tiii.,
g). 12. 134. 200.). — Having noticed several
ueries and Replies in your pages concerning the
family of the poet Milton's third wife, I beg to
five the following eitracta from apampblet printed
y Puilan of Cheater so recently as 1851, entitled
Historical Facts connected with ffantwich and its
Neighbourhood .-
" In that same ;ear (IGGS), Miltoa wai received at
Stete Hall 01 the Au^iaad of EliiaboA Mlnthull, At
groad-davghterof Geoffrey MimhuUT—'P. SO. " Not &r
aunds the Yew Tree House."
There can be little doubt the author of the
pamphlet referred to derived the information on
which those statements were made from an au-
thetdic source ; and if so, it seems pretty clear, the
Elizabeth MinshuU whom Milton married was
grand-daughter of Oeoffrey Mituhidl ofSto\e Hall.
T. P»L.
jlder^-y-Acn (the Boom-bird), or Btemp-y-Gors
(Boom of the Fen) ; the u is pronounced as
double o. W. R. D. S.
"Nugget" not an American Term (Vol. viL
pataim), — It is a mistake in your correspondent
to suppose that the word " nugget " was nsed in
California by American " digger* " to denominst«
a lump of gold. That wordwas never heard of
in this country until after the diacoyeries in Aus-
tralia. It is not used now in California ; " lump "
is the proper term ; and when a miner accumulates
a quantity, he boasts of his "pile," or rejoices in
the possession of a " pocket full of rocks. WC
Philadelphia.
Soke MiU (Vol. Tiii^ p. 272.). — Suit is not
now enforced to the Kings Mills in the manor of
Wrexham, in the county of Denbigh, but t^
lessee of the manorial rights of the crown receives
a payment at the rate of threepence per bu^el
for all the malt ground in hand-mills within the
limits of the manor. Tatft.
Vene (Vol.viii., p. 292.). — This
verse appeared in the Athenaum (Sept. 2, 1843,
No. 1088, p. 883.), given by one correspondent aa
having been previously forwarded by another ;
but it does not appear to have been previoualT
published. M.
Watch-paper Inscription (Vol. viii., p. 316.). —
Twenty-five years ago this inscription was set to
music, and was popular in private circles. The
melody was moderately good, and tiie " monitory
pulse-like beating " of course was acted, perhaps
over-acted, in the accompaniment. I am not
sure it was printed, but the fingers of young ladies
produced a great many copies. Your corre-
spondent's version is quite accurate, and I think
he must have heard it sung, as well as read it.
Segiiius irritant, &c. is not true of what is read aa
' ' what is heard wiUi music. U.
parts of Wklet, where it ia very expressively called
Botiaelum (VoL viii., p. 151.). — Dotinchem
appears to be the place which is called DeutiekeM
in the map of the Netherlands and Belgium, pub-.
lished by the Useful Knowledge Society in 1843,
and Deutehom in the map of the kingdom of the
Netherlands, published by the same society in
1830. Moren spells the name Dotechem, Dote-
hom, and Dotehaa. It is situated on the Tssel,
souUi-east of Doesburg. B. J.
Reverrible Names and Word) (Vol. viU, p. 244.).
— I cannot call to mind any such propria masadu :
but I think I can cast a doubt on your corre-
spondent's crotchet. Surely our avic authorities
(not even excepting the Mai/or') are veritable
males, though sometimes deserving the tobriqaet
of "old women." Surveyors, builders, carpenters.
376
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 207.
and bricklayers are the only persons who use the
leveL On board ship, it is the males who profes-
sionally attend at the poop. Our foreign-looking
friend rotator^ at once suggestive of certain cele-
brated personages in the lower house, is by ter-
mination mascmine ; and such members, in times
of political probation, never fail to show them-
selves evitative rather than plucky.
But some words are reversible in sense as well
as in orthography. If a man draw "on" me, I
should be to blame if at least I did not ward " off**
the blow. Whom should we repel sooner than
the leper f Who will live hereailer, if he be a
doer of evUf We should always seek to deliver
him who is being reviled. Even Shakspeare was
aware of the fact, that it is a Ood who breeds
magots in a dead dog (vide Hamlet), " Cum mul-
tifl alils.** The art of composing palindromes is
one, at least, as instructive as, and closely allied
to, that of (/^-ciphering. If any one calls the com-
positions in question " trash,** I cannot better an-
swer than in palindrome. Trash f even interpret
NineveKs art! lor the deciphering of the cuneiform
character is both a respectable and a useful exer-
cise of ingenuity. The English language, how-
ever, is not susceptible of any great amount of
palindromic compositions. The Xatin is, of all,
the best adapted fbr that fancy. I append an in-
scription for a hospital, which is a paraphrase of a
Terse in the Psalms :
*' Acide me malo, sed non desola me, medica.**
I doubt whether such compositions should ever
be characterised by the term aotadic, Sotadic
verses were, I believe, restricted to indecent love-
songs. C. Mansfiejld Inglebt.
Birmingham.
Detached Church Towers (Vol. vii. passim;
VoLviii., p. 63.). — At Morpeth, in Northumber-
land, the old parish church stands on an eminence
at the distance of a mile from the town. In the
market-place is a square clock tower, the bells in
which are used for ordinary parochial purposes.
At Kirkoswald, in Cumberland, where the
church stands low, the belfry has been erected on
an adjoining hilL E. H. A.
Bishop Ferrar (Vol. viii., p. 103.). — ^Bishop
Ferrar, martyred in Queen Mary's reign, was not
of the same family with the Ferrers, Earl of
Derby and Nottingham. Was your correspon-
dent led to think so from the fact of the martyr
having been originally a bishop of the Isle of Man ?
A Lineal Descendant of the Marttb.
[' Cambridge.]
•* They shot him by the nine stone rig*^ (Vol. viii.,
p. 78.). — This fragmentary ballad is to be found
2n the Border Minstrelsy, It was contributed by
£. Surtees of Mainsforth, co. Durham, and de-
scribed by him as having been taken down from
the recitation of Anne Dou^as, an old woman
who weeded in his garden. It b however most
likely that it is altogether factitious, and Mr.
Surtees* own production, Anne Douglas being a
pure invention.
The ballad called « The Fray of Haltwhistle,**
a portion of which, '* How the Thirlwalls and the
Ridleys a*,** &c., is interwoven with the text in
the first canto of Marmion, is generally understood
to have been composed bv Mr. Surtees. He,
however, succeeded in palming it upon Scott as a
genuine old ballad ; and states that ne had it from
the recitation of an ancient dame, mother of one
of the miners of Alston Moor. Scott*s taste for
old legends and ballads was certainly not too dis-
criminating, or he would never have swallowed
" The Fray of Haltwhbtle.*' Perhaps he suspected
its authenticity, for he says of it:
** Scantily Lord Marmion's ear could brook
llie harper's barbarous lay.**
T. D. RiDLBT.
Punning Devices (Vol. viii., p. 270.). — In the
4th volume of Surtees* History of Durham^ p. 48.,
there is an account of the Orchard Chamber in
Sledwish HaU :
** In the centre is a shield of the arms of Clopton ;
being two coats quarterly, a lion rampant and a cross
pattee fitchie g over all, a crescent for difference.* On
two other shields, impressed from one mould, are the
initials £. C, the date 1584, and a tun with a rose
elapt on.*'f
Old Gbumbleum.
Ashman* s Park — Wingjields Portrait (Vol. viii.,'
p. 299.). — Could any correspondent in Suffolk
inform me if Ashman*s Park has been sold ; and
if the pictures are anywhere to be found, espe-
cially that of Sir Anthony Win^field P TTie com-
munication of H. C. K. relative to the above
subject is very interesting. Q.
" Crowns have their compass^^ ^c. (Vol. iv.,
p. 428.).— In the well-known lines attributed to
Shakspeare, and quoted in the above volume, the
third stands thus :
** Of more than earth can earth make none partaker.*'
I find that Quarles has borrowed this in his
Emblems^ book i. Emblem vi. :
*< Of more than earth can earth make none possest^*
Henbt H. Bbeen.
St Lucia,
* Tills note says the arms are reversed, being im«
pressed from a mould.
f ** The crest of Clopton is a falcon clapping his
wings, and rising from a tun ; and I verily believe the
rose dapt on to be the miserable quibble intended.'*
Oct. 15. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
377
Ampers Cff (Vol. ii., pp.230. 284.; Vol.viii.,
pp. 173. 223. 254.). — Allow me to thank both ^.
and Mb. Henby Walteb for their replies to my
Query ; but I am unhappily no wiser than Mb.
LowEB was after $.*s nrst response. What on
earth " et-per-se" or " and-per-se-and" can mean,
I am at a loss to imagine. Why should et be
called "e^ by itself ?" Until this Query is an-
swered, I am as much in the dark as ever. While
I am upon the matter, I would farther ask this
mysterious Ampers and, "who gave thee that
name ? " May it find a proxy to answer iorjX !
C. Maksfield Imgleby.
Birmingham.
The origin of this expression is explained in
Vol. ii., p. 318. With regard to the orthography of
the word, it seems to me that, if the etymon be
followed, it ought to be written and-per-se-and;
if the pronunciation, OTTzpu^s;^ amf. L.
Throwing Old Shoes for Luck (Vol. vii., p. 41 1 .).
— There is an old rhyme still extant, which gives
an early date to this singular custom :
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Vitt.. VIIL — No. 208.
A PROPHET.
What a curious book would be " Our Prophets
and Enthusiasts ! ** The literary and biographical
records of the vaticinators, and the heated spirits
who, after working upon the fears of the timid,
and exciting the imaginations of the weak, have
flitted into oblivion ! As a specimen of the odd
characters such a work would embrace, allow me
to introduce to your readers Thomas Newans, a
Shropshire farmer, who unhappily took it into his
head that his visit to the lower sphere was on a
special mission.
Mr. Newans is the author of a book entitled
A Key to the Prophecies of the Old and New
Testament ; showing (among other impending
events) " The approaching Invasion of England ; "
'* The Extirpation of Popery and Mahometisme ;"
" The Restoration of the Jews," and " The Mil-
lennium." London : printed for the Author (who
attests the genuineness of my copy by his signa-
ture), 1747.
In this misfitted key he relates how, in a vision,
he was invested with the prophetic mantle :
" In the year 1723, in the night," says Mr. Newans,
** I fell into a dream, and seemed to be riding on the
road into the county of Cheshire. When I was got
about eight miles from home, my horse made a stop on
the road ; and it seemed a dark night, and on a sudden
there shone a light before me on the ground, which
was as bright as when the sun shines at noon-day. In
the middle of that bright circle stood a child in white.
It spoke, and told me that I must go into Cheshire^
and I should find a man with uncommon marks upon
his feet, which should be a warning to me to believe ;
and that the year after 1 should have a cow that would
calve a calf with his heart growing out of his body in
a wonderful manner, as a token of what should come
to pass ; and that a terrible war would break out in
Europe, and in fourteen years after the token it would
extend to England.'*
In compliance with his supernatural communi-
cation, our farmer proceeded to Cheshire, where
he found the man indicated ; and, a year after, his
own farm stock was increased by the birth of a
calf with his heart growing out. And after taking
his family, pf s^yen, tp withes? tp the truth of
882
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 208.
what he describes, he adds with great simplicity :
** So then I rode to London to acquaint the
ministers of state of the approaching danger ! '*
This story of the calf with the heart growing
out, is not a bad type of the worthy grazier him-
self, and his hearty and burning zeal for the
IVotestant faith. Mr. Newans distinctly and re-
peatedly predicts that these "two beastly reli-
gions," t. e. the Popish and Mahomedan, will be
totally extirpated within seven years I And " I
have, says he, "for almost twenty years past,
travelled to London and back again into the
country, near fifty journies, and every journey
was two hundred and fifty miles, to acquaint the
ministers of state and several of the bishops, and
other divines, with the certdnty, danger, and
manner of the war" which was to bring this about.
Commenting on the story of Balaam, our prophet
says : " And now the world is grown so full of sin
and wickedness, that if a dumb ass should speak
with a man's voice, they would scarce repent:"
and I conclude that the said statesmen and divines
did not estimate these prophetic warnings much
higher than the brayings of that quadruped which
they turned out to be. Mr. Newan professes to
have penned these vaticinations in the year 1744,
twenty-one years after the date of his vision ; so
that he had ample time to mature them. What
would the farmer say were he favoured with a
peep at our world in 1853, with its Mussulman
system unbroken ; and its cardinal, archbishops,
and Popish bishops firmly established in the very
heart of Protestant England ? J. O.
FOI<K LOBE.
Folk Lore in Cambridgeshire. — About twenty
years ago, at Hildersham, there was a custom of
ringing the church bell at ^ve o'clock in the
leasmg season. The cottagers then repaired to
the fields to glean ; but none went out before the
bell was rung. The bell tolled again in the
evening as a signal for all to return home. I
would add a Query, Is this custom continued ;
and is it to be met with in any other place ?
F. M. MiDDLSTON.
New Bfiinswick Folk Lore : — Common Notions
respecting Teeth, — Among the lower orders and
Heroes, and also among young children of re-
spectable parents (who have probably derived the
notion from contact with the others as nurses or
servants), it is here very commonly held that
when a tooth is drawn, if you refrain from thrust-
ing the tongue in the cavity, the second tooth
wUl be golden. Does this idea prevail in England P
Superstition respecting Bridges, — Many years
affo my grandfather had quite a household of
blacks, some of whom were slaves and some free.
Being bred in his family, a large portion of my
early days was thus passed among them, and I
have often reverted to the weird superstitions
with which they froze themselves and alarmed
me. Most of these had allusion to the devil:
scarcely one of them that I now recollect but
referred to him. Among others they firmly held
that when the clock struck twelve at midnight, the
devil and a select company of his inferiors regu-
larly came upon that part of the bridge caSed
"the draw," and danced a hornpipe there. So
firmly did they hold to this belief, that no threat
nor persuasion could induce the stoutest-hearted
of them to cross the fatal draw after ten o^dock at
night. This belief is quite contrary to that which
prevails in Scotland, according to which, Kobin
Bums being my authority, " neither witches nor
any evil spirits have power to follow a poor wight
any farther than the middle of the next nmnmg
stream."* C. D. D.
New Brunswick, New Jersey.
North Lincolnshire Folk Lore, — Here follow
some shreds of folk lore which I have not seen as
yet in " N. & Q." They all belong to North
Lincolnshire.
1. Death sign« If a swarm of bees alight on a
dead tree, or on the dead bough of a living tree,
there will be a death in the family of the owner
during the year.
2. If ^ou do not throw salt into the fire before
you begm to churn, the butter will not come.
3. If eggs are brought over running water they
will have no chicks in them.
4. It is unlucky to bring eggs into the house
after sunset.
5. If you wear a snake's skin round your head
you will never have the headache.
6. Persons called Agnes always go mad.
7. A person who is born on Christmas Day will
be able to see spirits.
8. Never burn egg-shells ; if you do, the hens
cease to lay.
9. If a pigeon is seen sitting in a tree, or comes
into the house, or from being wild suddenly be-
comes tame, it is a sign of death.
10. When you see a magpie you should cross
yourself; if you do not you will be unlucky.
Edward Peacock.
Bottesford Moors.
Portuguese Folk Lore.--'
" The borderer whispered in my ear that he was one
of the dreadful Lobishomens, a devoted race, held in
mingled horror and commiseration, and never mentioned
♦ " Now, do thy speedy utmost, Meg,
And win the key-stane of the brig :
There at them thou thy tail may toss,
A running stream they dare na crass."
Tarn O* Shunter.
Oct. 22* 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
383
without emotion by the Portuguese peasantry. They
believe that if a woman be deliTered of seven male
infants successiyely, the seventh, by an inexplicable
fatality, becomes subject to the powers of darkness ;
and is compelled, on every Saturday evening, to
assume the likeness of an ass. So changed, and fol-
lowed by a horrid train of dogs, he is forced to run an
impious race over the moors and through the villages ;
nor is allowed an interval of rest until the dawning
Sabbath terminates his suiFerings, and restores him to
his human ishape.** — From Lord Ckrnarvon's Ptirtrtgcd
and GaUicia, vol. ii. p. 268.
E. H. A.
POPE AND COWPEE.
In Cowper's letter to Lady Hesketh, dated
January 18, 1787, occurs a notice for the first
time of Mr. Samuel Rose, with whom Cowper sub-
sequently corresponded. He informs Lady Hes-
keth that —
*' A young gentleman called here yesterday, who
came six miles out of his way to see me. He was on
a journey to London from Glasgow, having just left
the University there. He came, I suppose, partly to
satisfy his own curiosity, but chiefly, as it seemed, to
bring me the thanks of some of the Scotch professors
for my two volumes. His name is Rose, an English-
man."
Prefixed to a copy of Hayley's Life and Letters
of William Cowper, Esq., in the British Museum,
is an extract in MS. of a letter from the late
Samuel Rose, Esq., to his favourite sister, Miss
Harriet Rose, written in the year before his mar-
riage, at the age of twenty-two, and which, I be-
lieve, has never been printed. It may, perhaps,
merit a corner of " N. & Q."
"Weston Lodge, Sept. 9, 1789.
" Last week Mr. Cowper finished the Odyssey^ and
we drank an unreluctant bumper to its success. The
labour of translation is now at an end, and the less
arduous work of revision remains to be done, and then
we shall see it published. I promise both you and
myself much pleasure from its perusal. You will
most probably find it at first less pleasing than Pope's
versification, owing to the difference subsisting between
blank verse and rhyme — a difference which is not
sufficiently attended to, and whereby people are led
into injudicious comparisons. You will find- Mr.
Pope more refined : Mr. Cowper more simple, grand,
and majestic ; and, indeed, insomuch as Mr. Pope is
more refined than Mr. Cowper, he is more refined than
his original, and in the same proportion departs from
Homer himself. Pope's must universally be allowed
to be a beautiful poem : Mr. Cowper's will be found a
striking and a faithful portrait, and a pleasing picture
to those who enjoy his style of colouring, which I am
apprehensive is not so generally acceptable as the other
master's. Pope possesses the gentle and amiable graces
of a Guido : Cowper is endowed with the bold sub-
lime genius of a Raphael. After having said so much
upon their comparative merits, enough, I bope^ to re-
fute your second assertion, which was, ^at women, in
the opinion of men, have little to do with literatBre.
I may inform you, that the Iliad is to be dedicated to
Earl Cowper, and the Odyssey to the Dowager Lady
Spencer ; but this information need not be extensively
circulated."
J. YSOWSLK.
50. Burton Street.
SHAKSPSARB COBRESFONDENCX.
"-4* You Like It^ — Believing that whatevefT
illustrates, even to a trifling extent, the great
dramatic poet of England will interest the reaiders
of " N, & Q.," I solicit their attention to the re-
semblance between the two following passages :
*< All the world's a stage.
And all the men and women merely players."
** Si recte aspicias, vita hoic estfdbida quadam,
Scena autem, mundus versatilis : histrio et actor
Quilibet est hominum — mortales nam propria cuncti
Sunt personati, et falsa sub imagine, vulgi
Praestringunt oculos : ita Diis, rtsumque jocumquet
Stultitiis, nugisque suis per sceeula prabent,
• ••••••
*' Jam mala quae humanum patitur genus, adnumerabo.
Principid postquam e latebris male olentibus alvi
Eductua tandem est, materno sanguine foedus,
Vagit, et aitspicio lacrymarum ncucitur infans,
. .•*...
" Vix natus jam vincla subit, tenerosque coefcet
Fascia longa artus : praesagia dira futuri
Servitii. .....
. • . « * • .
" Post ubi jam valido se poplite sustinet, et jam
Rite loqui didicit, tunc servire incipit, atque
Jussa pati, sentitque minas i^vsque magistriy
Ssepe patris matrisque manu fratrisque frequenter
Pulsatur : facient quid vitricus atque noverca ?
FitjuveniSy erescunt vires : jam spemit habenas,
Occluditque aures monitis, furere incipit, ardens
Luxuria atque ira : et temerarius omnia nullo
Consilio aggreditur, dictis melioribus obstat,u
Deteriora fovens : non ulla pericula curat,
Dummodo id efficiat, suadet quod coeca libido..
• .. • « . • .-
** Succedit gravior, meUor, prudentior atas,
Cumque ipsa curae adveniunt, durique labores ;
Tunc homo mille modis, studioque enititur omni
Rem facere, et nunquam sibi multa negotia desunt.
Nunc peregre it, nunc ille domi, nunc rure laboratj
Ut sese, uxorem, natos, famulosque gubernet,
Ac servet, solus pro cunctis soUicitus, nee
Jucundis fruitur dapibus, nee nocte quiet^.
Ambitio hunc etiam impellens, adpublica mittit
Mania : dumque inhiat vano male sanus honori,
Invidiae atque odii patitur mala plurima: deineeps
Obrepit canis rttgosa senecta capiliis,
Secum multa trahens incommoda corporis atque
Mentis : nam vires abeunt, speciesque colorque.
Nee non dejiciunt sensus : audirCf videre-
384
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 208.
LangueMCunt, gtisttuque minor Jit : denique semper
Aut hoc, aut illo morbo vexantur — inermi
Manduntur vix ore cibi, vix crura bacillo
Suitentata meant : animus quoque vulnera sentit.
Duipit, et fongo torpet confectus ab avo"
It would have only occupied your space need-
lessly, to have transcribed at length the celebrated
description of the seven ages of human life from
Shakspeare*s As You Like It; but I would solicit
the attention of your readers to the Latin verses,
and then to the question. Whether either poet has
borrowed from the other ? and, should this be de-
cided affirmatively, the farther question would arise.
Which is the original ? Abtebus.
Dublin.
[These lines look like a modern paraphrase of Shak-
speare ; and our Correspondent has not informed us
from what book he has transcribed them. — £d.]
Passage in ^^King John** and ^^ Borneo and Juliet,**
— I am neither a commentator nor a reader of
'Commentators on Shakspeare. When I meet with a
difficulty, I get over it as well as I can, and think
no more of the matter. Having, however, acci-
dentally seen two passages of Shakspeare much
ventilated in "N. & Q.," I venture to give my
j)Oor conjectures respecting them.
1. King John, —
** It lies as sightly on the back of him,
As great Alcides* shows upon an ass."
I consider shows to be the true reading ; the re-
ference being to the ancient mysteries, called also
shows. The machinery required for the celebra-
tion of the mysteries was carried by asses. Hence
the proverb : " Asinus portat mysteria;." The
connexion of Hercules — "great Alcides" — with
the mysteries, may be learned from Aristophanes
and many other ancient writers. And thus the
meaning of the passage seems to be : The lion's
skin, which once belonged to Richard of the Lion
Heart, is as sightly on the back of Aitstria^ as
were the mysteries of Hercules upon an ass.
2. Borneo and Juliet, —
•* That runaways eyes may wink."
Here I would retain the reading, and interpret
runaways as signifying " persons going about on
the watch." JPerhaps runagates^ according to
modern usage, would come nearer to the proposed
signification, but not to be quite up with it. Many
words in Shakspeare have significations very re-
mote from those which they now bear.
Patrick Muirson.
Shakspeare and the Bible, — Has it ever been
noticed that the following passage from the Second
Part of Henry 7K., Act I. Sc. 3., is taken from the
fourteenth chapter of St. Luke's Gospel ?
** What do we then, but draw anew the model
In fewer offices ; or, at least, desist
To build at all ? Much more, in this great work,
(Which is almost to pluck a kingdom down,
And set another up) should we survey
The plot, the situation, and the model ;
Consult upon a sure foundation,
Question surveyors, know our own estate,
How able such a work to undergo.
A careful leader sums whiit force he brings
To weigh against his opposite ; or else
We fortify on paper, and in figures.
Using the names of men, instead of men :
Like one that draws the model of a house
Beyond his power to build it.**
The passage in St» Luke is as follows (xiv.
28-31.) :
*< For which of you, intending to build a tower, sit-
teth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he
have sufiBcient to finish it ?
" Lest haply, after he hath laid the foundation, and
is not able to finish it, all that behold it begin to mock
him,
'* Saying, This man began to build, and was not able
to finish.
*' Or what kine, going to make war agunst another
king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he
be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh
against him with twenty thousand ? "
I give the passage as altered by Mr. Collier's
Emendator, because I think the line added by
him,
" A careful leader sums what force he brings,**
is strongly corroborated by the Scripture text.
Q. D.
Judicial Families. — In vol. v. p. 206. (new
edition) of Lord Mahon*s History of Englana^ we
find the following passage :
** Lord Chancellor Camden was the younger son of
Chief Justice Pratt, — a case of rare succession in the
annals of the law, and not easily matched, unless by
their own cotemporaries, Lord Hardwicke and Charles
Yorke."
The following case, I think, is equally, if not
more, remarkable : —
The Right Hon. Thomas Berry Cusack-Smitb,
brother of the present Sir Michael Cusack- Smith,
Bart., is Master of the Rolls in Ireland, having
been appointed to that high office in January,
1846. His father. Sir William Cusack-Smith,
second baronet, was for many years Baron of the
Court of Exchequer in Ireland. And his grand-
father, the Risht Hon. Sir Michael Smith, first
baronet, was, like his grandson at the present day,
Master of the Rolls in Ireland.
Is not this " a case of rare succession in the
annals of the law, and not easily matched ? *'
Abhba.
Oct. 22. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
Derivation of " Topig Tarvi/" — When things
are in confusion they are genernllj Baid to be
tujued "topsy turvy." The expression ia de-
rived from a. way in which turf for fuel ia placed
to dry on its being cut. The surface of the ground
IB pared off with the healh growing on it, and the
heath is turned downward, and left some days in
that state that the earth may get dry before it is
carried away. It means then top-side-lurf-way.
Ci^BicDB Rustic cs.
Dietumaries and Sticyclopadios. — Allow me to
offer a suggestion to the publishers and compilers
of dictionaries; first as to dictionaries of the lan-
Sage. A lai^e class refer to these ouly to learn
! meaning of words not familiar to them, but
■which may occur in readitig. If the dictionaries
are framed on the principle of displaying only the
classical language of England, it is ten to one they
will not supply the desired information. Let
there be, besides classical dictionaries, glossaries
nhich will exclude no word whatever on account
of rarity, vulgarity, or teohnicaZity, but which may
very well exclude those which are moat familiar.
As to encyclopedias, their value is chiefij as sup-
plements to the library ; but surely no one studies
anatomy, or the differential calculus, or archi-
tecture, in them, however good the treatises may
he. I want a dictionary of miscellaneous subjects,
such as find place more easily In an encyclopedia
than anywhere else ; but why must I also purchase
treatises on the higher mathematice, on navigation,
on practical engineering, and the like, some of
which I already may possess, others not want, and
none of which are a bit the more convenient be-
cause arranged in alphabetical order in great vo-
lumes. Besides, they cannot be conveniently re-
placed by improved editions. ENCTci.op.9mic us.
" 3£arg, weep m more for me."— There is a well-
known ballad of this name, said to have been
written by a Scotchman named " Low." The
first verse runs thus :
« The moon had climbed tlie biglicst hill.
Which rises o'er the source of Dee,
And from the eastern cummit sped
Its silver light on tower and tree.'
I find, however, amongst my papers, a fragment
of a version of this same ballad, of, I assume,
earlier antiquity, which so surpasses Low's ballad
that the author has little to thank him for his
interference. The first verse of what I take to be
the original poem stands thus;
» The moon had climbed the highest hill,
Where eagles big* aboon the Dee,
And like the looka ofa lovely dame,
Brought joy to every body's ee."
No poetical reader will require his attention to
be directed to the immeasurable su^rlority of
this glorious verse : the high poetic animation, the
eagles' visits, the lovely looks of female beauty,
the exhilarating gladness and joy affecting the
beholder, all manifest the genius of the master
bnrd. I shall receive it as a favour if any of your
correspondents will furnish a complete copy of the
original poem, and contrast it with what "Low"
fancied his " improvements." James Cobnibb.
Epiiaph at Wood DiUon. — You have recently
appropriated a small space in your " medium of
intcrcummuiiicatiou " to the subject of epitaphs.
I can furnish you with one which I have been ac-
customed to regard as a " grand climacterical ab-
surdity," About thirty years ago, when inakins
a short summer ramble, I entered the churchyara
of Wood Ditton, near Newmarket, and my at-
tention was attracted by a headstone, having in-
laid into its upper part a piece of iron, measuring
about ten inches by six, and hollowed out into the
shape ofa diih. I inquired of a cottager residing
on the spot what the thing meant? I was in-
formed that the party whose ashes tbe grave
covered was a man who, during a long life, had
a strange taste for sopping a slice of bread in a
dripping-pan (a pan over which meat has been
roasted), and would relinquish for this all kinds
of dishes, sweet or savoury ; that in his .will he
left a request that a dripping-pan should be fixed
in his gravestone ; that he wrote his own epitaph,
an exact copy of which I herewith give you, and
which he requested to be engraven on the stone:
" Here lies my corpse, who was the man
That loved a sop in the dripping-pan;
But now believe me I am dead, _
See here the pan stands at my head.
Still for sops till the last I cried,
But could not cat, and so I died.
My neighbours they perhapa will laugh,
When they read my epitaph."
J.H.
Cambridge.
Pictorial Pun. — In the village of WarbleMn, in
Sussex, there is an old public-house, which has for
its sign a War Bill in a tun of beer, in reference
of course to the name of the place. It has, how-
ever, the double meaning of " Axe for Beer."
E. W. B.
I am about to print some information, hitherto
I believe totally unknown, relative to the voyage
of Sir Thomas Button in 1612, for the discover;
of the north-west passage.
Of this voyage a journal was kept, which was in
existence many years afterwards, being offered by
386
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 208,
its author to Secretary Dorchester in 1629, then
engaged in forwarding the projected voyage of
** S^orth-West " Foxe ; it is remarkable, however,
that no extended account of this voyage, so im-
portant in its objects, has ever been published. I
am desirous of knowing if this journal is in ex-
istence, and where? Also, Lord Dorchester's
letter to Button in February, 1629 ; of any farther
information on the subject of the voyage, or of
^ir Thomas Button.
What I possess already are, 1. "Motiues in-
ducing a Proiect for the Discouerie of the North
Pole terrestriall ; the streights of Anian, into the
South Sea, and Coasts thereof," anno 1610.
2. Prince Henry's Instructions for the Voyage,
together with Kmg James's Letters of Credence,
1612. 3. A Letter from Sir Thomas Button to
Secretary Dorchester, dated Cardiff, 16th Feb.,
1629 (from the State Paper Office). 4. Sir
Dudley Digges' little tract on the N.-W. Passage,
written to promote the voyage, and of which there
were two distinct impressions in 1611 and 1612.
5. Extracts from the Carleton Correspondence,
and from the Hakluyt Society's volume on Voy-
ages to thfe North- West.
I shall be glad also to learn the date, and any
other facts connected with the death of John
Davis, the discoverer of the Straits bearing his
name. John Pethebam.
94. High Holborn.
The Words " Cash'' and " iJ/bJ."— In" Moore's
Diary I find the following remark. Can any of
your numerous readers throw any light on the
subject ?
" Lord Holland doubted whether the word * Cash '
was a legitimate English word, though, as Irving re-
marked, it is as old as Ben Jonson, there being a
character called Cash in one of his comedies. Lord
Holland said Mr. Fox was of opinion that the word
* Mob * was not genuine English." — Moore's Diary,
vol. iii. p. 247.
Clericus Eusxicus.
«| History of Jesus Christr -^ G. L. S. wifl feel
obliged by any correspondent of " N. & Q." stat-
ing who is the author of the following work P —
** The History of the Incarnation, Life, Doctrine,
and Miracles, the Death, Resurrection, and Ascension
of Our Blessed Lord and Savibur, Jesus Christ In
Seven Books ; illustrated with Notes, and interspersed
with Dissertations, theological, historical, geographical,
and critical.
** To which are added the lives, Actions, and Saf-
fertngs of the Twelve Apostles; also of Saint Paul,
Saint Mark, Saint Luke, and Saint Barnabas. To-
gether with a Chronological Table from the beginning
of the reign of Herod the Great to the end of the
Apostolic Age. By a Divine of the Church of
England.
•* London : printed for T. Cooper, at the Globe, in
Paternoster Row, 1737.**
This work is in one folio volume, and all I can
ascertain of its authorship is that it was jwt writ«
ten by Bishop Gibson, o£^" Preservative " fame.
Quantity of the Latin Termination -anus. — ^Proper
names having the termination ^anus are always
long in Latin and short in Greek : thus, the Clau-
dianus, Lucianus, &c. of the Latins are ILxavUavos
and ABVKidvos in Greek. What is to be said of the
word Xfuaruxyoc ? Is it long or short, admitting it
to be long in the Latin tongue ?
While on the subject of quantities, let me ask,
where is the authority for that of the name of the
queen of the Ethiopians, Candace, to be found ?
We always pronounce it long, but all books of
authority mark it as short. Anti-Babbabus.
Wehb and Walker Families, — Perhaps yow op
some of your numerous readers could inform no
if tiie Christian names of Daniel and Roger were
used 160 or 180 years ago by any of the nnmerons
families of Webb or Webbe^ resident in Wilts or
elsewhere ; and if so, in what family of t^at name?
And is there any pedigree of them extant f and
where is it to be found?
Was the Rev. Greo. Walker, the defender of
Derry, connected with the Webbs ? and if so, how,
and with what familv ?
Is there any Webb mentioned in history at die
siege of Derry ? and if so, to what family of that
name did he belong f Guuslmus.
dawdrey's " Treasure of Similes.'' — ^I stumbled
lately at a book-stall on a very curious old book
entiUed A Treasurie or Store-house of Similes
both pleasant, delightftdl, and profitable. Hie
title-page is gone^ but in an old hand on the cover
it is stated to have been written by a oertaia
"Cawdrey," and to have been printed in 1609,
where I cannot discover. Can any of your oor->
respondents oblige me with some information con-
cerning him P The book is marked ** scarce.***
J. a.. S.
Poi?U of Etiquette, — Will some of your numerous
correspondents kindly inform me as to the xule
in sucn a case as the following : when an elder
brother has lost both his daughters in his old age,
does the eldest daughter of the younger brother
take the style of Miss Smith, Jones, Brown, or
Robinson, as the case may be P F. D., M.R.C.S.
Napoleon's jSpei/uigr.— Macaulay, in his History
of JEnglandy cnap, vii., quotes, m a foot-note,
a passage from a letter of William III., written
in French to his ambassador at Paris, and then
makes this remark, *' The spelling is bad, but not
worse than Napoleon's."
Oct. 22. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEBIEa
Can jou refer me to some authentic proof of
the fact that Napoleon vis unable to spell cor-
reetlj ? It is well known that he affected to put
his thoughts upon paper with great rapidit; ; and
the consequence of this practice iras, that in almost
everj word some letters were dropped, or their
places indicated hf dashes. But this was only
one of those numerous contrivances, to which he
was in the habit of resortina, in order to impress
those around him with a,a idea of his greatness.
Hbnht H, Bbeen.
S(. Lucia.
Trench on Prmjerbs. — Mr, Trench, in this ex-
cellent little work, states that the usual translation
of Psalm cxxvii. 2, is incorrect:
" Let me lemmd ;ou of such [pioverlis] also as the
following, often quoted or alluded to by Greek and
Latin authors : 7^ net of t/ie ileeping {fisherman)
in the words of the Psalmist (Ps. cxoii. 2,), were they
accurately translated, a beautiful and perfect parallel ;
'He gtTelh his beloved" (not 'sleep.' but) 'in their
sleep ;' bis gifts gliding into their bosoms, they knaw-
ing not how, and as little eipecting as baving laboured
for them."
The Hebrew is ^UE^ iin'^ I??', the literal trans-
lation of which, " He giveth (or. He will gire) to
his beloved sleep," seems to me to be correct.
As Mr, Trench. is a reader of " N, & Q.," per-
haps he would have the kindness to mention in its
pages the grounds he has for his proposed trans-
lation. £, M. B,
Rings formerly taom by JEcclesiaalici. — In de-
scribing (he finger-ring found in the grave of the
Vener^le Bede, the writer of j1 brief Account of
Durham Cathedrai add^,—
" No priest, during tbe reign of Catholicity, iras
buried or enshrined without bis ring," — P. SI.
I have seen a similar statement elsewhere, and
wish to ask, Ist, Were priests formerly buried
with tbe ring ? 2ndly, If so, was it a mere cus-
tom, or was it ordered or authorised by any rubric
or canon of our old English Church ?
I am very strongly of opinion that such never
was the custom, and that the statement above
quoted iias its origin iu the confounding priests
with bishops. Martene says, when speakmg of
the manner of burying bishops, —
" Episcopus debet baber<
est. Cstcri lacerdates non,
amici sponsi vel vicarii," — De Aatiquii Eedttin Hiti-
bui, lib. III. cap, xii, n. II.
Cevbep.
Suder's ^' Lives of Ihe Sainla." — Can any of your
correspondents supply a correct list of tbe various
1, quia sponai
editions of this popular work? The notices in
Watt and Lown^s are very unsatisfactory.
J. Ybowbu.,
Marriage of Cousins — It was asserted to me
the other day that marriage with a, second cousin
is, by the laws of England, illegal, and that suc-
cession to property has been lately barred to the
bsue of such marriage, though the union of ifr«(
cousins entails no such consequences. Is tnerfi
aoy foundation for this atatemcat? J.F.
is current at this place which says that —
" If it hadn't been for Cobb-busb Hill,
Thorpe Castle would baie stood tbere still."
or the last line, according to another version, —
" There would have been a castle at Tborpe still,"
Now it appeiirs from Lipscomb's JTiatory of the'
county, that the castle wa.3 demolished by Fulke
de Brent about 1215 ; how then can this tradition
be explained ?
Cobb-hush Hill, I am told, is more than half a
mile from the village. H. Thq«. Waks.
Wh^re was Edward II. MUedf — Hume and
Lingard state that this monarch was murdered at
Berkeley Caatlc. Bchard and Rapin are silent^
both as to the event and as to the locality. But
an earlier authority, viz, Martyn, in his Hiitorie
and Lives of Twenlie Kings, 1615, says :
" He was committed to the Castle of KiUtugvorth,
and Prince Edward was crowned king. And not long
after, the king being removed to the Castle of Corff,
was wickedly assayled by bis'keepcrs, who, through a
hornc which they put in his," &c.
Birmiugbam,
Encore. — Perhaps some correspondent of "TS.
& Q." can assign a reason why we use this French
word in our theatres and concert rooms, to expreM
our desire for the repetition of favourite songs,
&c. I shoidd also lite to know at what period it
was introduced. A, A.
Ameoiti Pedigree — Can any of your corre-
spondents supply me with a full pedigree of Am-
cotts of Astrop, CO. Lincolnshire P I do not refer
to the Visitations, but to the later descents of the
family. The last heir male was, I believe, Vincent
Amcotts, Esq., great-grandfather to the present
Sir William Amcotts Ingilby, Bart. Elizabeth
Amcotts, who married, 19th July, 1684, John
Toller, Esq., of Billingborough Hall in Lincoln-
shire, was one of this family, and I suppose aunt
to Vincent Amcotts. I may mention, the calendars
* FionouDced "Dirvp,
388
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[N(x«W.
of the Will Office at Lincoln have no entries of
the name of Amcotts between 1670 and 1753.
Tewabs.
Blue Bell — Blue Anchor, — A bell painted blue
18 a common tavern sign in this country (United
States) ; and the blue anchor is also to be met
with in many places. As these signs evidently
had their origin in England, and one of them is
alluded to in the old Scotch ballad «' The Blue
Bell of Scotland," it seems to me that the best
method to apply for information upon the subject
18 to ask " iJ". & Q." Are these signs of inns
heraldic survivors of old time ; are tney corrup-
tions of some other emblem, such as that which
in London transformed La Belle Sauvage into the
Bell Savage, pictorialised by an Indian ringing a
hand-bell; or is the choice of such improper
colour as blue for a bell and an anchor a species
of symbolism the meaning of which is not gene-
rally known ? WC,
Philadelphia.
" We*ve parted for the longest time** — Would
you insert these lines in your paper, the author of
which I seek to know, as well as the remaining
verses ?
" We've parted for the longest time, we ever yet did
part,
And I have felt the last wild throb of that enduring
heart :
Thy cold and tear-wet cheek has Iain for the last
time to mine,
And I have pressed in agony those trembling lips of
thine.*
R. Jermyn Coopeb.
f The Rectory, Chiltington Hunt, Sussex.
Matthew Lewis, — Allow me to solicit inform-
ation, through the medium of " N. & Q.," where
I can see a pedigree of Matthew Lewis, Esq., De-
puty Secretary of War for many years under
the Right Hon. William Windham, then M.P. for
Norwich, and other Secretaries-at-War. I rather
think Mr. Lewis married a daughter of Sir Thomas
Sewell, Kt., Master of the Rolls from 1764 to
1784; and had a son, Matthew Gregory Lewis,
known as Monk Lewis, who was M.P. for Hindon
at the close of the last century : a very clever but
eccentric jroung man. I also believe Lieut.-Gren.
John Whitelocke, and Gen. Sir Thos. Brownrigg,
G.C.B., who died in 1838, were connected by
marriage with the Sewell or Lewis families.
C. H. F.
^ Paradise Lost, — In A Treatise on the Dramatic
Literature of the Greeks, by the Rev. J. R. Darley,
I read the following remark :
" In our own literature also, the efforts of our early
dramatists were directed to subjects derived from reli-
gion i even the Paradise Lost is composed of a series
of minor pieces, originally cast in the dramatfx; form, of
which the creation and fall of man, and the several
episodes which were introduced subordinately to these
grand events, were the subject-matter.**
This statement beins at variance with the re-
ceived opinion, that Milton, from his early youth,
had meditated the composition of an epic poem, I
would inquire whether there is any evidence ta
support Mr. Darley's view? Milton has been
charged with having borrowed the design of
Paradise Lost from some Italian author ; and this
allegation, coupled with that made by Mr. Darlej,
would, if founded, reduce our great national epic
to what H^zlitt has described as ** patchwork and.
plagiarism, the beggarly copiousness of borrowed
weSth." Henbt H. Breen.
St. Lucia.
Colonel Hyde Seymour, — Who was " Colonel
Hyde Seymour ? " I find his name written in a
book, The Life of WUliam the Third, 1703.
H. T. Ellacombb*.
Vault at Richmond, Yorkshire, — In Speed's
plan of Richmond, in Yorkshire, is represented
the mouth of a " vault that goeth under the river,
and ascendeth up into the Castell." Was there
ever such a vault, and how came it to be destroyed
or lost sight of? One who knows Richmond well
tells me that he never heard of it. O. L. R. G>
Poems published at Manchester, — Can any con-
tributor to '* N. & Q." inform me who was the.-
author of a volume of Poems on Several Occasions^
published by subscription at Manchester ; printed
for the author by R. Whitworth, in the year 1733 ?■
It is an 8vo. of 138 pages; has on the title-page
a line from Ovid :
** Jure, tibi grates, candide lector, ago,**
and begins with an "Address to all my Sub-
scribers ; " after which follow several pages of
subscribers* names, which consist chiefly of Staf-
fordshire and Cheshire gentry. My copy (for
the possession of which I am indebted to the
kindness of Dr. Bliss, the Principal of St. Mary's-
Hall, Oxford) was formerly in the library of Mr.
Heber, who has thus noted its purchase on the-
fly-leaf, "Feb. 1811, Ford, Manchester, 7s, erf.'"
Dr. Bliss has added, on the same fly-leaf, " HeberV
fourth sale, No. 1908, not in the Bodleian Cata-
logue." The first poem in the book is " A Pasto-
ral to the Memory of Sir Thomas Delves, Baronet.**
It is probablv a scarce book ; but possibly some-
of your book-learned correspondents may help me>
to the author's name. W. Snetd..
Denton.
HandeVs Dettingen Te Deum, — Any inform-
ation as to the circumstances under which Handet
composed this celebrated Te Deum, and the place
Oct. 22. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
389
And occasion of its first public performance, will be
welcome to Fhilo-Hakdel.
Edmund Spenser and Sir Hans Sloane, Bart. —
As I believe myself (morally speaking) to be
lineally descended from the former of these cele-
brated men, and collaterally from the latter, may I
request that information may be forwarded me,
either throup^h your columns or by correspon-
dence, regarding the descendants of the great poet
und his ancestry ; and also whether, among the
many thousand volumes bequeathed by Sir Hans
to the nation, some record does not exist tending
to prove his genealogical descent ? At present 1
know of no other pedigree than that Mr. Burke has
given of him in his Extinct Baronetage, I shall feel
•exceedingly gratified if any assistance can be given
tne relating to these two families.
W. Sloane Sloane-Evans.
Cornworthy Vicarage, Totnes.
The Ligurian Sage, — In GiflTord's Mceviad,
lines 313-316, 1 read, —
" Together we explored the stoic page
Of the Ligurian, stern tho* beardless sage 1
Or trac*d the Aquinian thro' the Latin road,
And trembled at the lashes he bestow'd."
The Aquinian is of course Juvenal ; but I must
confess me at fault with respect to the Ligurian.
W. T. M.
[The Ligurian sage is no doubt Aulus Persius
Placcus who, according to ancient authors, was boru
at Volaterrae in Etruria ; but some modern writers
conclude that he was born at Luna? Portus in Liguria,
from the following lines (Sat. vi. 6.), which seem to
Telate to the place of his residence :
** Mihi nunc Ligus ora
Intepet, hybernatque meum mare, qua latus ingens
Dant scopuli, et multa littus se valle receptat.
Lunai portum est operae cognosccre, elves.*'
"When approaching the verge of manhood, Persius be-
<came the pupil of Cornutus the Stoic, and his death
took place before he had completed hb twenty-eighth
year.]
Gresehrok in Yorkshire, — Can you or any of
your correspondents give me any information as
to what part of Yorkshire the manor of Grese-
brok lies in ? In Shaw's History of Staffordshire
«(2 vols, folio), there is a "Bartholomew de
Gresebrok" mentioned as witness to a deed of
Henry III.'s time, made between Robert de Gren-
don. Lord of Shenston, and Jno. de Baggenhall ;
which family of Gresebrok, it is said, ** probably
took their name from a manor so called in York'
^iire, and had property and residence in Shen-
:stone, from this early period to the beginning of
the century, many of whom are recorded in the
registers from 1590 to 1722."
The above is quoted by Shaw from Sanders's
History of Shenstone, p. 98., and perhaps some of
your correspondents may possess that work, and
will oblige me by transcribing the necessary in-
formation.
Any particulars of the above family will much
oblige your constant reader 'HpoXSucos.
[According to Sanders, the family of Greisbrook
was formerly of some note at Shenstone. He sajs that
'< Greisbrook, whence the family had their name, is a
manor in Yorkshire, which, in the reign of Henry IIL9
was in the great House of Mowbray, of whom the
Greisbrooks held their lands.' Roger de Greisbrook
(temp. Henry II.) is mentioned as holding of the fee
of Alice, Countess of Augie, or Ewe, daughter of
William de Albiney, Earl of Arundel, by Queen Alice,
relict of Henry I," Then follow some particulars of
various branches of the family, from the year 1580 to
the death of Robert Greisbrook in 1 71 8. Sanders's
History is included in vol. ix. of Bibliotheca Topographica
JSritannica.']
StiUingfleet^s Library, — The extensive and
valuable library of Edward Stillingfleet, the
learned Bishop of Worcester, who died in 1699,
is said to be contained in the library of Primate
Marsh, St. Patrick's, Dublin. Can any of your
correspondents state how it came there ? Was
it bequeathed by the bishop, or sold by his de-
scendants ? He died at Westminster, and was
buried in Worcester Cathedral.
J. B. Whitboenb.
[Bishop Stillingfleet*s library was purchased by
Archbishop Marsh for his public library in Dublin.
A few years since Robert Travers, Esq., M. D., of
Dundrum near Dublin, was engaged in preparing for
publication a catalogue of Stillingileet*s printed books,
amounting to near 10,000 volumes. The bishop's
MSS. were bought by the late Earl of Oxford, and
are now in the Harleian Collection. See The Life of
Bishop StilUnfffleett 8vo., 1735, p. 135., and Biog, Brit,
s. v.]
The whole System of Law, — On December 26,
1651, the Long Parliament, stimulated by Crom-
well to various important reforms in civil matters,
resolved, —
** That it be referred to persons out of the House to
take into consideration what inconveniences there are
in the law, and how the mischiefs that grow from the
delays, the chargeableness, and the irregularities in the
proceedings of the law, may be prevented ; and the
speediest way to reform the same."
The commission thus appointed consisted of
twenty-one persons, among whom were Sir Ma-
thew Hale, Sir Anthony Ashley Cooper, and John
Rushworth. They seem to have set to work with
great vigour, and submitted a variety of impor-
tant measures to Parliament, many of which were
NOTES AND Q0EEIES. [No. 208.
Oct. 22. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
891
Miss Cuzzona. They are however in fact selected
from two poems addressed to daughters of Lord
Carteret, and are put together arbitrarily, out of
the order in which they stand in the original
poems. There is a short poem by Philips in the
same metre, addressed to Signora Cuzzoni, and
dated May 25, 1724, beginning, " Little syren of
the stage;" but none of the verses quoted in the
Treatise on the Bathos are extracted from it.
Namby-pamby belongs to a tolerably numerous
class of words in our language, all formed on the
same rhyming principle. They are all familiar,
and some of them cnildish ; which last circum-
stance probably suggested to Pope the invention
of the word namby-pamby^ in order to designate
the infantine style which Ambrose Philips had in«
troduced. Many of them, however, are used by
old and approved writers ; and the principle upon
which they are formed must, be of great antiquity
in our language. The following is a collection of
words which are all formed in this manner :
Bow-wow » — A word formed in imitation of a
dog*s bark. Compare the French aboyer.
Chit-chat. — Formed by reduplication from chat.
A word (says Johnson) used in ludicrous conver-
sation. It occurs in the Spectator and Tatler.
Fiddle-faddle. — Formed in a similar manner
from to fiddle^ in its sense of to trifle. It occurs
in the Spectator.
Flim-flam. — An old word, of which examples
are cited from Beaumont and Fletcher, and Swift.
It is formed from flam^ which Johnson calls " a
cant word of no certain etymology." Flam^ for a
lie, a cheat, is however used by South, Barrow,
and Warburton, and therefore at one time ob-
tained an admission into dignified style. See
JSTares' Glossary in v.
Hab or nab. — That is, according to Nares,
have or have not; subsequently abridged into
hab^ nab. Hob or nob is explained by him to mean
** Will you have a glass of wine or not ?" Hoby
nob is applied by Shakspeare to another alterna-
tive, viz. give or take {Twelfth Night, Act III.
Sc. 4.). See ISTares in v. Habbe or Nabbe.
Handy-dandy. — "A play in which children
change hands and places" (Johnson). Formed
from hand. The word is used by Shakspeare.
Harum-scarum. — " A low but frequent expres-
sion applied to flighty persons ; persons always in
a hurry" (Todd). Various conjectures are offered
respecting its origin : the most probable seems to
be, that it is derived from scare. The Anglo-
Saxon word hearmsceare means punishment (see
Grimm, Deutsche RechtsaJterthiimer, p. 681.) ; but
although the similarity of sound is remarkable, it
is difficult to understand how liarum-scarum can
be connected with it.
Helter-skelter. — Used by Shakspeare. Several
derivations for this word are suggested, but none
probable.
Higgledy-pie^ledy.--*^ A cant word, ccnmipted
from higgle, which denotes any confused masB, as
higglers carry a huddle of provisions toffetber**
(Johnson). It seems more probable that the word
is formed from pig; and tJiat it alludes to the
confused and indiscriminate manner in which pigi
lie together. In other instances (as chit-chat,
flim-flam, pit-a-pat, shilly-shally, slip-slop, and
Eerhaps harum-scarum), the word which forms the
asis of the rhyming reduplication stands second^
and not first.
Hocus-pocus. — The words ecus bochug appear,
from a passage cited in Todd, to have been used
anciently by Italian conjurers. The fanciful idea
of Tillotson, that hocus-pocus is a corruption of
the words hoc est corpus, is well known. Compare
Richardson in v.
Hoddy-doddy. — This ancient word has yarioua
meanings (see Richardson in v.). As used by
Ben Jonson and Swift, it is expressive of con-
tempt. In Holland*s translation of Pliny it sig-
nifies a snail. There is likewise a nursery rhyme
or riddle :
" Hoddy-doddy,
AH legs and no body."
Hodge-podge appears to be a corruption of
hotch-pot. It occurs in old writers. (See Richard-
son in Hotch-pot.)
Hoity-toity. — ^Thoughtless, giddy. Formed from
the old word to hoit, to dance or leap, to indulge
in riotous mirth. See Nares in Hoit and Hoyt
Hubble-bubble. — A familiar word, formed from
bubble. Not in the dictionaries.
Hubbub. — Used by Spenser, and other good
writers. Richardson derives it from hoop or
whoop, a shout or yell. It seems rather a word
formed in imitation of the confused inarticulate
noise produced by the mixture of numerous voices,
like mur-mur in Latin.
Hugger-mugger. — Used by Spenser, Shak-
speare, and other old writers. The etymology is
uncertain. Compare Jamieson in Hudge-mudge,
The latter part of the word seems to be allied
with smuggle, and the former part to be the re-
duplication. The original and proper sense of
hugger-mugger is secretly. See Nares in v., who
derives it from to hugger, to lurk about ; but query
whether such a word can be shown to have existed ?
Humpty-dumpty. — Formed from hump. This
word occurs in the nursery rhyme :
** Humpty-dumpty sat on a wall,
Humpty-dumpty h&d a great fall," &c.
Hurdy-gurdy. — The origin of this word, which
is quoted from no writer earlier than Foote, has
not been explained. See Todd in v.
Hurly-burly. — This old word occurs in the well-
known verses in the opening scene of Macbeth —
** When the hurly bwrly^s done,
When the battle's lost and won*'—
392
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 208.
where see the notes of the commentators for other
instances of it. There are rival etymologies for
this word, but all uncertain. The French has
hurlu'bttrlu. Nares in Hurly,
Hurrv-scurry. — This word, formed from hurry,
is used by Gray in his Long Story,
Nick'nack. — A small ornament. Not in the
dictionaries.
PiC'tiic. — For the derivation of this word, which
seems to be of French origin, see "N. & Q.,"
Vol. vii., pp. 240. 387.
Pit-pat, or PiUa-pat — A word formed from
jipat, and particularly applied to the pulsations of
the heart, when accelerated by emotion. Used hj
3en Jonson and Dryden. Congreve writes it
a'pit'pat
Riff-raff. — The refuse of anything, "II ne lui
4airra rif ny raf." Cotgrave in Rif, where rif is
said to mean nothing.
RoUt/'pooly, — "A sort of game " (Johnson) . It
is now used as the name of a pudding rolled with
sweetmeat.
Roivdy'dowdyy and Ruh-a-duh. — Words formed
in imitation of the beat of a drum.
ShiUy-shally, — Used by Congreve, and formerly
written " shill I, shall I."
Slipslop. — " Bad liquor. A low word, formed
by reduplication of slop*^ (Johnson). Now gene-
rally applied to errors in pronunciation, arising
from ignorance and carelessness, like those of
Mrs. Malaprop in The Rivals.
IHp-top. — Formed from top, like slip-slop from
slop.
^ jTirra-lirra. — Used by Shakspeare :
« The lark that tirra Krra chants."
Winter' $ Tale, Act IV. Sc.2.
From the French, see Nares in v.
The preceding collection is intended merely to
illustrate the principle upon which this class of
words are formed, and does not aim at complete-
ness. Some of your correspondents will doubtless,
if they are disposed, be able to supply other ex-
amples of the same mode of formation. L.
EAJtIi OF OXFOBD.
(Vol. viii., p. 292.)
S. N. will find the Earl's answer in a volume,
not very common now, entitled A Compleat and
Impartial History of the Impeachments of the Last
Ministry, London, 8vo., 1716. The charge re-
specting the creation of twelve peers in one day
formed the 16th article of the impeachment. I in-
close a copy of the answer, if not too long for
your pages. G.
** In answer to the 16th article, the said Earl doth
insist, that by the laws and constitution of this realm,
it is the undoubted right and prerogative of the Sove-
reign, who is the fountain of honor, to create peers of
this realm, as well in time of Parliament at when there
is no Parliament sitting or in being; and that the
exercise of this branch of the prerogative is declared in
the form or preamble of all patents of honor, to pro-
ceed ex mero motu, as an act of mere grace and favor,
and that such acts are not done as many other acts of a
public nature are, by and with the advice of the Privy
Council ; or as acts of pardon usually run, upon a
favorable representation of several circumstances, or
upon reports from the Attorney- General or other
officers, that such acts are lawful or expedient, or
for the safety or advantage of the Crown ; but flon^
entirely from the beneficent and gracious disposition
of the Sovereign. He farther says, that neither the
warrants for patents of honor, the bills or other en-
grossments of such patents, are at any time communi-
cated to the council or the treasury, as several other
patents are ; and therefore the said Earl, either at
High Treasurer or Privy Councillor, could not have
any knowledge of the same : Nevertheless, if her late
sacred Majesty had thought fit to acquaint him with
her most gracious intentions of creating any number of
peers of this realm, and had asked his opinion, whether
the persons whom she then intended to create were
persons proper to have been promoted to that dignity,
he does believe he should have highly approved h«r
Migesty*s choice ; and does not apprehend that in so
doing he had been guilty of any breach of his duty, or
violation of the trust in him reposed ; since they were
all persons of honor and distinguished merit, and the
peerage thereby was not greatly increased, considering
some of those created would have been peers by descent,
and many noble families were then lately extinct : And
the said Earl believes many instances may be given
where this prerogative hath been exercised by former
princes of this realm, in as extensive a manner ; and
particularly in the reigns of King Henry the Eighth,
King James the First, and his late Majesty King Wil-
liam. The said Earl begs leave to add, that in the
whole course of his life he hath always loved the esta-
blished constitution, and in his private capacity as well
as in all public stations, when he had the honor to be
employed, has ever done his utmost to preserve it, and
shall always continue so to do.**
PICTS HOUSES.
(Vol. viii., p. 264.)
The mention there made of the recent discovery
of one of these subterranean vaults or passages in
Aberdeenshire, induces me to ask a question in
regard to two subterranean passages which have
lately been discovered in Berwicksnire, and which
so far differ from all others that I have heard or
read of, that whereas all of them seem to have
been built at the sides with lar^e flat stones, and
roofed with similar ones, and uien covered with
earth, those which I am about to mention are both
hewn out of the solid rock. Thev are both situated
in the Lammermoor range of hills. Those persons
who have seen them are at a loss to know for what
Oct. 22. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
393
purpose they could have been excavated, unless
for the purpose of sepulture in the times of the
aborigines, or of very early inhabitants of Britain,
as they in many respects resemble those stone ^aves
which are mentioned in Worsaae's Description of
the PrimoBval Antiquities of DewwarA, translated
and applied to the illustration of similar remains
in England by Mr. Thoms.
One of these cavities is situated on a remote
pasture farm, among the hills belonging to the
£arl of Lauderdale, called Braidshawrigg ; and
was discovered by a shepherd very near his own
house, within less than a quarter of a mile up a
small stream which runs past it, and on the oppo-
site side of the water, a few yards up the steep hill.
The shepherd had observed for some time that one of
his dogs was in the habit of going into what he sup-
posed to be a rabbit hole at this place, and when he
was missing and called, he generally came out of
this hole. At last, curiosity led his master to take a
spade and dig into it ; and he soon found that, after
^^^^^^^ down into the soil to the rock, the cavity
became larger, and had evidently been the work
of human hands. Information was given to Lord
Lauderdale, and the rubbish was cleared away.
It (the rubbish) did not extend far in, and after
that the passage was clear. The excavation con-
sists of a passage cut nearly north and south (the
entrance being to the south) through various
strata of solid rocks, partly grauwacke, or what is
there called whinstone)^ and partly gray slate : the
strata lying east and west, and nearly vertical.
The whole length of it is seventy -four feet. From
the entrance the passage, for four or five yards,
slopes downwards into the hill ; it then runs hori-
zontally the length of sixty-three feet from the
entrance, when it changes its direction at right
angles to the westward for a distance of eleven
feet ; when it ends with the solid rock. It is
regularly from three feet four inches to three feet
six inches wide, and about seven feet high, the
ceiling being somewhat circular. The floor is the
rocl^cut square. The time and labour must have
been great to cut this passage, as not more than
one man could conveniently quarry the rock at
the same time. It might have been supposed that
this was a level to a mine, as copper has been
worked in this range farther eastward ; but the
passage does not follow any vein, but cuts across
all the strata, and keeps a straight line, till it
turns westward, and then in another straight line ;
and the fioors, sides, and roof are all made quite
regular and even with a pickaxe or a hammer.
There does not appear to have been at any time
any other habitation than the shepherd*s house, and
another cottage a little lower down the stream, in
the neighbourhood. The discovery of this cavern
recalled to the recollection of myself, and some of
my family, that a few years ago, in cutting a road
through the rock into a whinstone quarry, about
four miles south of Braidshawrigg, near a mill,
we had cut across the east end of a passage some-
what similar to the one before mentioned, but
running east and west ; that we had cleared it out
for a short way, but as it then went under a
corner of one of the houses belonging to the mill,
we stopped, for fear of bringing down the building,
as this passage, though cut out of the solid rock,
was not a mine, but had been worked to the sur-
face ; and, if it ever had been used for purposes of
sepulture, must have been rooffed with flagstones,
and then covered with earth like other Picts'
houses. But these roof-stones must have been
carried away, and the whole trench was filled with
rubbish, and all trace of it on the surface was
obliterated. This passage we have lately opened,
and cleared out. To the westward it passes into
the adjoining water-mill, which is itself in great
part formed by excavation of the rock ; and the
east wall of the upper part of the mill is arched
over the passage. Beyond the west wall of the
mill which adjoins the stream, there is a continu-
ation of the trench through the rock down to the
water, which serves to take away that which passes
over the millwheel at ri^rht anorles to where the
rock has been cut away to make room for the mill-
wheel itself. That which has been cut away in
making the trench, is a seam of clay slate about
three feet six inches in breadth, between two solid
whinstone rocks. The length of the passage, from
the east end, which terminated in rock, to the mill,
is sixty-three feet. The mill is thirty feet, and
the cut beyond it twelve feet : in all, one hundred
and five feet. The average depth is about twelve
feet ; but as it slopes down to the stream, some of
it is sixteen feet deep. It has been suggested that
it might have been dug out in order to obtain the
coarse slate ; but the difficulty of working a con-
fined seam like this, in any other way than by
picking it out piecemeal with immense labour,
seems impossible. It can never have been meant
to convey water to the mill, as the highest part
begins in the solid rock, and the object must
always have been to keep the water on the
highest possible level, until it reached the top
of the millwheel. Nothing was found in either
of these excavations. — After this long discussion.
Query, What can have been the purpose for which
these laborious works can have been executed ?
J. D* s.
PRONUNCIATION OE "HUMBLE.
(Vol. viii., pp. 229. 298.)
It is my misfortune entirely to difler from Me.
Dawson (p. 229.) and Mr. Crosslbt (p. 298.) as
to the pronunciation of humble ; and permit me to
say (with all courtesy) that I was unfeignedly
surprised at the latter^s assertion, that sounding
3»4
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 208.
tbe A is " a recent attempt to introduce a mispro-
nnnciation,*^ as I have known that mode of pro-
nunciation all but universally prevalent for nearly
the last forty years ; and I have had pretty good
opportunities for observing what the general usage
in that respect was, as I was for some years at a
Tery large public school, then at Oxford for more
ihan the usual time, and have since resided in
London more than twenty-five years, practising
as a barrister in Westminster Hall, and on one of
iJ^e largest circuits. If, therefore, I have not had
ample means of judgin? as to the pronunciation of
humblej I know not where the means are to be
found ; especially as I doubt whether humble and
hmnbli/ are anywhere so frequently used as in
courts : a counsel rarely making a speech without
^humbly submitting*' or making a ^^hnmble ap-
plication.** Now tne result of my experience is,
that the h is almost universally sounded ; and at
this moment I cannot call to mind a single gen-
tleman who omits it, who does not also omit it in
many other instances where no doubt can exist
that it ought to be sounded.
Mb. Dawson believes the sounding the h to be
** one of those, either Oxford, or Cambridge, or
both, peculiarities of which no reasonable expla-
nation can be given." Now I believe Mb. Daw-
son is right in supposing that that usage is general
both at Oxford and Cambridge, and I rather
think that not only an explanation of the fact may
be ^iven, but that the fact itself, that in both the
Universities the h is sounded, is extremely cogent
evidence that it is correct. It cannot be doubted
that the fact that a word is spelled with certain
letters is clear proof that, at the time when that
spelling was adopted, the word was so sounded as
to give a distinct sound to each of the letters used,
and that clearly must have been the case with
words beginning with h especially. When, there-
fore, the present spelling of humble was adopted,
the h was sounded. Now, whilst I freely admit
that the utterance of any word may be changed —
" Si volet usus, quern penes arbitrium est, et jus et
norma loquendi" — still it cannot be questioned
that the usage must be so general, clear, and dis-
tinct among the better educated classes (where-
ever they may have received their education) as
to leave no reasonable doubt about the matter;
and that it lies on those who assert that such a
change has taken place, to show such a usage as I
have mentioned. And when the number of the
members of the Universities is considered, and
their position as men of education, it must at least
admit of doubt whether, if a general usage pre-
vailed among them to pronounce a particular word
in the manner in which it originally was pro-
nounced, this would not alone prevent a different
pronunciation among others from having that
general prevalence, which would be sufficient to
justify a change in the utterance of such word.
But let us consider whether the usage of the
Universities is not very cogent evidence that the
h is generally sounded throughout England, 1.
Each University contains a large number of the
higher and better educated classes. 2. The mem-
bers come from all parts of England indiscrimi-
nately. 3. Infinitely the majority come from
schools ; and some of the lar^e schools have gene-
rally many members at each University. By such
persons the pronunciation of the schools cannot
fail to be represented. 4. Every one on entering
the University is expected at least to know his
own language. 5. Tnere is no instruction, as far
as I know ^owever much the fact may be to be
regretted), ever given in English at either Univer-
sity. 6. There is a perpetual change of about a
third of the members every year, few remaining
above three years. Now can any one, who can-
didly considers these facts, doubt that a usa^e in
pronouncing a particular word at either Univer-
sity, if generally prevalent, is very strong evi-
dence that the same usage is generally prevalent
throughout England ; but if any one does enter-
tain such a doubt, surely it must be done away,
when he finds that the same usage prevails at b<ik
Universities ; though there exists such a d^ree
of rivalry between them as would prevent the one
from adopting from the other any usage which
was liable to any tbe least doubt, and though
there is no communication between them that
could account for the same usage prevailing in both.
Mb. Cbosslet appeals to the Prayer Book as a
decisive authority, and instances ** an humble" &c.
If any one will examine the Prayer Book, he will
find that it is no authority at m; as "an** is at
least as often used erroneously before h as not.
In reading over the first sixty-eight Psalms, I
found the following instances : — Ps. xxvii. 3. and
Ps. xxxiii. 15., " An host of men ;" Ps. xlvii. 4. and
Ps. Ixi. 5., "An heritage;'* Ps. xlix. 18., "An
happy man;'* Ps. Iv. 5., "An horrible dread;"
Ps. Ixviii. 15., " An high hill." And in the same
Psalms I only found one instance of a befoq^ A,
viz. in Ps. xxxiii. 16., "A horse;'* and in this
case the Bible version has " An horse." In the
first Lesson for the 19th Sunday after Trinity,
Dan. iii. 4., "An herald,'* and 27., "An hair of
their head," occur ; and in the next chapter (iv.
13.), "An holy one.** It is plain from these in-
stances (and doubtless many others may be found),
that the use of " an " before A, in the Bible or
Prayer Book, can afford no test whatever whether
the h ought to be sounded or not. S. G. C.
After the sensible Note of your correspondent
E. H., it is perhaps hardly necessary to sy more
on the subject of aspirated and mute h. If these
remarks, therefore, seem superfluous, they may
easily be suppressed, and that too without any
offence to the writer.
Oct. 22. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
395
It IS very dangerous to dogmatise on the En-
glish language. We really have no authority to
which we can confidently appeal, except the usage
of .good society : ** Quern penes arbitrium est, et
jus et norma loquendi." Unfortunately, however,
every man is convinced, that in his own society
that usage is to be found; and your correspon-
dents, who have a<»reed in approving the Heapian
pronunciation, will probably, on that ground, still
retain the same opinion.
The only words in the English language, in
which h is written, but not pronounced, are words
derived from Latin through the French ; but of
these, many in English retain the aspirate, though
in French nearly all lose it. The exceptions col-
lected by E. H. satisfactorily prove that we do not
follow the French rule implicitly. They indeed
carrj the non-aspiration farther than to words of
Latm derivation. They omit the aspirate to nearly
all words derived from Greek. This we never do.
I think that E. H.*s rule, of always aspirating h
before m, is not entirely without exceptions.
Except in Ireland, I never heard humour or
humorous aspirated, though in humid and humect
the h is always sounded. If this be right, it de-
pends solely on the usage of good society, and not
on rules laid down by Walker or Lindley Murray,
whose authority we do not acknowledge as infal-
lible. I may here remark, that no arguments can
be drawn from our Liturgy or translation of the
Bible that would not prove too much. If, because
we find in our Liturgy " an humble^ lowly, and
obedient heart," we are to read " an'wmj//?," we must
also read " an 'undred, an 'ouse, an 'eap, an *eart ;'*
for an was prefixed in our Liturgy as well as in our
translated Bible to every word beginning with A,
and not (as one of your correspondents supposes)
only to words beginning with silent h. Among
young clergymen there is a growing habit (de-
rived I suppose from Walker, or other such
sources) of indulging in the Heapian dialect. I
think Mr. Dickens will have done us more good
by his ridicule, than will ever be effected by
serious arguments ; and I feel as much obliged to
him as to E. H. To show how dangerous it is to
be bound by a mere grammarian authority, a
disciple of Vaugelas or Restaut (no insignificant
names in French philology) would be led to read
les her OS as if it were " les zeros." E. C. H.
SCHOOL LIBBABIE8.
(Vol. viii., p. 220.)
I can answer Me. Weld Tatlob for at least one
public school having no library, nor any books for
other purposes than tasks, i, e. Christ's Hospital,
London : whether any other metropolitan schools
are provided with books I do not know. When I
was at the above school, at all events, we had no
books except for learning out of; whether reform
has crept in since I was there, twenty-five years
ago, I cannot say. I speak of then, not now.
I remember very well a dusty cupboard with
" Read, Mark, Learn," painted in ostentatious let-
ters on it. And these profound words were just
like a park gate with high iron railings, where you
may peep in and get no farther — no more could
we : for we never saw the inside of it, and nobody
could say where the key was; therefore what
flowery pleasaunce of knowledge it contained
nobody perhaps knows to this day. I also remem-
ber how greedily any entertaining book was bor-
rowed, begged, and circulated ; and thumbed and
dog's-eared to admiration. Rasselas and GruUi"
ver's Travels, Robinson Crusoe, or Sandford and
Merton, poor things ! they became at last what
might be supposed a public arsenal of umbrellas
would at the last.
When I reflect on that time, and the dreary
winter's evenings, trundled to bed almost by day-
light, my very heart sinks. What a luxunr if
some Christian had been allowed to read aloud for
an hour, instead of lying awake studying the
ghastly lamp that swung from the ceiling in the
dormitory ; or if some one with a modicum of in-
formation had given half an hour's lecture on
some entertaining branch of science. Perhaps
these antique schools are reformed in some mea-
sure, or perhaps they are waiting till their betters
are.
I observe, however, that certain parish work-
house schools have, within these few days, taken
the hint. Perhaps our public schools, for some
are very wealthy, may be able to afibrd to follow
their example. E. H.
Wimborne Minster, Dorset.
Marlborough College possesses a library of about
four thousand volumes, entirely the munificent
contribution of Mr. M'Geachy, one of the council.
The boys of the fifth and sixth forms are allowed
access daily at certain fixed hours, the librarian
being present. In addition to this, libraries are
now being formed in each house, which are main-
tained by small half-yearly subscriptions, and
which will contain books of a more amusing cha-
racter, and better suited for the younger boys.
B. J«
PHOTOGBAPHIC COBBESPONDENCE.
Albumenized Paper, — If this subject be not
already exhausted, the following account of my
method of preparing the material in question,
which diff*ers in some few important particulars
from any I have seen published, may be of in-
terest to some of my brother operators.
396
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 208.
I have, after a very considerable number of ex-
periments, succeeded in producing the very highly
varnished appearance so conspicuous in some of
the foreign proofs ; and although I cannot say I
admire it in general, more especially as regards
landscapes, yet it is sometimes very effective for
portraits, giving a depth of tone to the shadows,
and a roundness to the flesh, which is very strik-
ing. Moreover, a photographer may just as well
be acquainted witn every kind of manipulation
connected with the art.
Having but a very moderate amount of spare
time, and that at uncertain intervals, to devote to
this seductive pursuit, I am always a great stickler
for economy of time in all the processes, as well as
for economy of material, the former with me having,
perhaps, a shade more influence than the latter.
As m all other processes, I find that the kind of
paper made use of has a most important bearing
upon the result. That which I find the best is of
French manufacture, known as Canson Freres'
(both the thin and the thick sorts), probably in
consequence of their being sized with starch.
The thin sort (the same as is generally used for
waxed-paper negatives) takes the hicrhest polish,
but more readily embrowns after being rendered
sensitive, and the lights are not ever quite so white
as when the positive paper is used.
In order to save both time and labour, I prepare
my papers in the largest sizes that circumstances
will admit of, as it takes little or no more time to
prepare and render sensitive a large sheet than a
small one ; and as I always apply the silver solu-
tion by means of the glass rod, I find that a half-
sheet of Canson*s paper (being seventeen inches
by eleven inches the half-sheet) is the best size to
operate on. If the whole sheet is used, it requires
more than double the quantity of solution to en-
sure its being properly covered, which additional
quantity is simply so much waste.
A most convenient holder for the paper whilst
being operated upon, is one suggested by Mr.
Home of Newgate Street, and consists of a piece
of half-inch Quebec yellow pine plank (a soft
kind of deal), eleven inches by seventeen inches,
screwed to a somewhat larger piece of the same
kind, but with the grain of the wood at right
angles to the upper' piece, in order to preserve a
perfectly flat surface. On to the upper piece is
glued a covering of japanned flannel, such as is
used for covering tables, taking care to select for
the purpose that which has no raised pattern, the
imitation of rosewood or mahogany being un-
exceptionable on that account. The paper can be
readily secured to the arrangement alluded to
by means of a couple of pins, one at each of two
opposite angles, the wood being sufficiently soft
to admit of their ready penetration.
To prepare the Albumen, — Take the white of
<me egg; this dissolve in one ounce of distilled
water, two grains of chloride of sodium (common
salt), and two grains o^ grape sugar ; mix with the
egg, whip the whole to a froth, and allow it to
stand until it again liquefies. The object of this
operation is to thoroughly incorporate the ingre-
dients, and render the whole as homogeneous as
possible.
A variety in the resulting tone is produced by
using ten grains of sugar of milk instead of the
grape sugar.
The albumen mixture is then laid on to the
paper by means of a flat camePs-hair brush, about
three inches broad, the mixture being first poured
into a cheese plate, or other fl^it vessel, and all
froth and "bubbles carefully removed from the
surface. Four longitudinal strokes with such a
brush, if properly done, will cover the whole half-
sheet of paper with an even thin film ; but in case
there arc any lines formed, the brush may be
passed very lightly over it again in a direction at
right angles to the preceding. The papers should
then be allowed to remain on a perfectly level
surface until nearly dry, when they may be sus-
pended for a few minutes before the fire, to com-
plete the operation. In this condition the glass is
but moderate, and as is generally used ; hut if^
after the first drying before the fire, the papers
are again subjected to precisely the same process,
the negative paper will shine like polished glass.
That is coated again with the albumenizing mix-
ture, and dried as before.
One %gg^ with the ounce of water, &c., is enough
to cover five half-sheets with two layers, or five
whole sheets with one.
I rarely iron my papers, as I do not find anj
advantage therein, because the moment the silver
solution is applied the albumen becomes coagu-
lated, and I cannot discover the slightest differ-
ence in the final result, except that when the
papers are ironed I sometimes find flaws and
spots occur from some carelessness in the ironing
process.
If the albumenized paper is intended to be kept
for any long time before use, the ironing may be
useful as a protection against moisture, provided
the iron be sufficiently hot; but the t^perature
ought to be considerable.
To render the paper sensitive, I use a hun-
dred-grain solution of nitrate of silver, of wluch
forty-five minims will exactly cover the sheet of
seventeen inches by eleven inches, if laid on with
the glass rod. A weaker solution will do, but
with the above splendid tints may be produced.
As to the ammonio-nitrate of silver, I have totally
abandoned its use, and, after many careful ex-
periments, I am satisfied that its extra sensitive-
ness is a delusion, while the rapid tendency of piqper
prepared with it to spoil is increased tenfold.
The fixing, of course, modifies considerably the
tone of the proof, but almost any desired shade
Oct. 22. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
397
may be attained by following the plan of Mb. F.
M. Lttb, published in " N. & Q.,*' provided the
negative is sufficiently intense to admit of a con-
siderable degree of over-printing.
It is a fact which appears to be entirely over-
looked by many operators, that the intensity of the
negative is the chief agent in conducing to black
tones in the positive proof; and it is almost im-
possible to produce them if the negative is poor
and weak : and the same observation applies to a
negative that has been over-exposed.
Geo. Shadbolt.
Cement for Glass Baths. — The best I have
tried is Canada balsam. My baths I have had in
use five years, and have used them for exciting,
developing hypo, and cyanide, and are as good as
ivhen hrst used. Koxm.
New Process for Positive Proofs, — I have tried
a method of preparing my paper for positive
proofs, which, as I have not seen it mentioned as
employed by others, and the results appear to me
very satisfactory, I am induced to communicate to
you, and to accompany by some specimens, which
will enable you to judge of the amount of success.
I use a glass cylmder, with air-pump attached,
such as that described by Mr. Stewart as em-
ployed by him for iodizing his paper. I put in
this the salt solution, and that I use is thus com-
posed : 2 drachms of sugar of milk, dissolved in
20 ounces of water, adding —
advantages which the mode I have detailed pos-
sesses are, I think, these :
Greater sensitiveness in the paper,
A good black tint, and
Greater freedom from spots and blemishes, all
very material merits. C. E. F.
[Our Correspondent has forwarded five specimens,
four of which are cextainly very satisfactory ; the fifth
is the one prepared by brushing.]
Chloride of barium
Chloride of sodium
Chloride of ammonium -
- 15 grs.
- 15 grs.
- 15 grs.
In this I plunge several sheets of paper rolled into
a coil (taking care that they are covered by the
solution), and exhaust the air. I leave them thus
for a few minutes, then take them out and hang
them up to dry ; or as the sheets are rather diffi-
cult to pin, from the paper giving way, spread
them on a frame, across which any common kind
of coarse muslin or tarletan, such as that I inclose.
Is stretched.
I excite with ammonio-nitrate of silver, 30
grains to 1 ounce^of water, applied with a flat
brush.
I fix in a bath of plain hypo, of the strength of
one-sixth. The batn in which the inclosed spe-
cimens were fixed has been in use for some little
time, and therefore has acquired chloride of silver.
I previously prepared my paper by bmshing it
with the same salt solution, and the difierence of
effect produced mav be seen by comparing a proof
so obtained, which I inclose, with the others.
This latter is of rather a reddish-brown, and not
▼epy agreeable tint. I have inclosed the proofs as
printed on paper of Whatman, Turner, and Canson
Fr^res, so as to show the effect in each case. The
30it^liti to iffRinax ^ntviti*
The Groaning JElm-planh in Dublin (Vol. viii.,
p. 309.). — Dr. Rimbault has given an account
of the groaning-board, one of the popular delusions
of two centuries ago : the following notice of it,
extracted from my memoir of Sir Thomas Moly-
neux, Bart., M.D., and published -in the Dublin.
University for September, 1841, may interest your
readers :
" In one of William Molyneux's communications he
mentions the exhibition of ' the groaning elm-plank * in
Dublin, a curiosity that attracted much attention and
many learned speculations about the years 1682 and
1683. He was, however, too much of a philosopher to
be gulled with the rest of the people who witnessed
this so-called < sensible elm-plank/ which is said to
have groaned and trembled on the application of a hot
iron to one end of it. After explaining the probable
cause of the noise and tremulousness by its form and
condition, and by the sap being made to pass up
through the pores or tubuli of the plank which was in
some particular condition, he says : ' But, Tom, the
generality of mankind is lazy and unthoufhtful, and
will not trouble themselves to think of the reason of a
thing : when they have a brief way of explaining any*
thing that is strange by saying " The devil's in it,"
what need they trouble their heads about pores, and
niatters, and motion, figure, and disposition, when the
devil and a witch shall solve all the phenomena of
nature.' "
W. R. Wilde.
Passage in Whiston (Vol. viii., p. 244.). — J. T.
complains of not being able to find a passage in
Whiston, which he says is referred to in p. 94. of
Taylor on Original Sin, Lond. 1746. I do not
know what Taylor he refers to. Jeremy Taylor
wrote a treatise on original sin; but he lived
before Whiston. I have looked into two editions
of the Scripture Doctrine of Original Sin, by John
Taylor, one of Lond. 1741, and another of Lond.
1750; but in neither of these can I find any
mention of Mr. Whiston. 'AXtetis.
Dublin.
" When Orpheus went doum" (Vol. viii., pp. 196.
281.). — In addition to the information given
upon this old song by Mr. Oldenshaw, I beg ta
add the following. It was written for and song
388
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 208.
bj Mr. Beard, in a pantx>miiiiic entertainment en-
titled Orpheus and Euridice^ acted at the theatre
in Lincoln's Inn Fields in 1740. The author of
the entertainment was Mr. Henry Sommer, but
the song in question was *Hransiated from the
Spanish " by the Rev. Dr. Samuel Lisle, who died
Rector of Burclere, Hants, 1767. It was long
yery popular, and is found in almost all the song-
books of the latter half of the last century. Mr.
Park, the editor of the last edition of Kitson*s
English Songs (vol. ii. p. 153.), has the following
note upon this song :
" An answer to this has been written in the way of
echo, and in defence of the fair sex, whom the Spanish
author treated with such libellous sarcasm."
As tills ** echo song " is not given by Ritson or his
editor, I have transcribed it from a broadside in
my collection. It is said to have been written by
a lady.
" When Orpheus went down to the regions below,
To bring back the wife that he lov'd,
Old Pluto, confounded, as histories show.
To find that his music so moT*d :
That a woman so good, so virtuous, and fair,
l%ould be by a man thus trepann'd.
To give up her freedom for sorrow and care,
He own*d she deserved to be damn'd.
** For punishment he never study'd a whit,
The tornaents of hell had not pain
Sufficient to curse her ; so Pluto thought fit
Her husband should have her again.
But soon he compassion'd the woman's hard &te.
And, knowing of mankind so well,
He recalVd her again, before 'twas too late.
And said, she*d be happier in hell.*'
Edwasd F. Rimbault.
Foreign Medical Editcation (Vol. viii., p. 341.).
-—Your correspondent Medicus will find some
information respecting some of the foreign univer-
sities in the lancet for 1849, and the Medical
Times and Gazette for 1852. For France he will
find all he wants in Dr. Roubaud*s Annuaire Me-
dioal et Pharmaceuiique de la France^ published
by Bailli^re. 219. Regent Street. M. D.
« Short red, good red'' (Vol. viii., p. 182.). —
Sir Walter has probably borrowed this saying
from the story of Bishop Walchere, when he re-
lated the murder of Adam, Bishop of Caithness.
This tragical event is told in the Chronicle of
Mailros, under the year 1222 ; also in Forduni
Scotichronieon, and in Wyntoun's Chronicle^ book
vii. c. ix. ; but the words " short red, good red,*'
do not appear in these accounts of the transaction.
J. Mn.
Collar of SS, (Vols, iv.— vii. passim). — At
the risk of frightening you and your correspon-
dents, I venture to resume this subject, in conse-
quence of a circumstance to which my attrition
has just been directed.
In the parish church of Swarkestone in Derby*
shire there is d monument to Richard Harpur, one
of the judges of the Court of Common Pleas in
the reign of Elizabeth ; on which he is represented
in full judicial costume, with the collar of SS.,
which I am told by the minister of the parish is
** distinctly delineated." It may be seen in Fair-
holt*s Costumes of England, p. 278.
As far as I am aware, this is the only instance,
either on monuments or in portraits, of a puisne
judge being ornamented with this decoration.
Can any of your correspondents produce another
example? or can they account, from any other
cause, for Richard Harpur receiving such a dis-
tinction ? or may I not rather attribute it to the
blunder of the sculptor ? Edwabb Foss.
Who first thought of Table-turning (VoL riii.,
p. 57.). — It is impossible to say who discovered
the table-turning experiment, but it undoubted Ij
had its origin in the United States. It was prac-
tised here three years ago, and, although some-
times associated with spirit-rappings, has more
fre<]^uently served for amusement. Chi this con-
nexion it may be proper to say that Professor
Faraday^s theory of unconscious muscular force
meets with no concurrence among those who know
anything about the subject in this country. It is
notorious that large tables have been moved fre-
quently by five or six persons, whose fingers
merely touched them, although upon each was
seated a stout man, weighing a hundred and fifty
or sixty pounds : neither involuntary nor volun-
tary muscular force could have effected that phy-
sical movement, when tlfbre was no other purchase
on the table than that which could be gained by a
pressure of the tips of the fingers. ^B.
Philadelphia.
Passage of Thucydides on the Oreek Factions
(Vol. vii., p. 594. ; vol. viii., pp. 44. 187.)» — My
attempt to find the passa^ attributed by Sir A.
Alison to Thucydides in the real Thucydides wag
unsuccessful for the best of reasons, viz. tiiat it
does not exist there. He has probably borrowed
it from some modern author, who, as it appears
to me, has given a loose paraphrase of the words
which I cited from Thucyd. in. 82., and has ex-
panded the thought in a manner not uncommon
with some writers, by adding the expression about
the " sword and poniard.** Some other misquo-
tations of Sir A. Alison from the classical writers
may be seen in the Edinburgh Review for April
last, No. CXCVHL p. 275. L.
Origin of ^^CUpper^' as applied to Vessels
(Vol, viii., p. 100.). — For many years the fleetest
sailing vessels built in the United States were
Oct. 22. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
399
constructed at Baltimore. They were very ^arp,
long, low; and their masts were inclined at a
much greater angle than usual with those in other
vessels. Fast sailing pilot boats and schooners
were thus rigged ; and in the last war with Eng-
land, privateers of the Baltimore build were uni-
versally famed for their swiftness and superior
sailing qualities. ** A Baltimore clipper" became
the expression among shipbuilders for a vessel of
peculiar make ; in the construction of w^ch, fleet-
ness was considered of more importance than a
carrying capacity. When the attention of naval
architects was directed to the construction of swift
sailing ships, they were compelled to adopt the
clipper shape. Hence the title "Clipper Ship,"
which has now extended from America to England.
Philadelphia.
Passage in Tennyson (Vol. viii., p. 244.). — In
the third edition of In Memoriam, lxxxix., 1850,
the last line mentioned by W. T. M. is " Flits by
the sea-blue bird of March," instead of ** blue sea-
bird." This reading appears to be a better one.
I would suggest that the bird meant by Tennyson
was the Tom-tit, who, from his restlessness, may
be said to flit* among the bushes.
F. M. MiDDLBTON.
Huefs Navigations of Solomon (Vol. vii., p. 381.).
— This work of the learned Bishop of Avranches
was written in Latin, and translated into French
by J. B. Desrockes de Parthenay. It forms part
of the second volume of a collection of treatises
edited by Bruzen de la Martini^, under the title
of Traites Geographiques et Hisioriques pour foci'
liter VinteUigence de VJScriture Sain6e^ par divers
auteurs cel^res^ 1730, 2 vols. 12mo.
I am unable to reply to £dina*8 isecond Query,
as to ike result of Huet*8 assertions.
Henbt BL Bkess.
St. Lucia.
Sincere (Vol. viii., pp. Id5. 328.). — The deriva-
tion of this word from sine cerd appears very fanci-
ful. If this were the correct derivation, we should
expect to find sinecere^ for the e would scarcely be
dropped ; just as* we have the English word ^'ne-
cure^ which is the only compound of the prepod-
tion sine I know ; and is itself not u Idxtin wordy
but of a later coinage. Some give as the deriv-
ation semel and xcpdiw — that is, once mixed, with-
out adulteration ,* the « being len^hened, as the
Greek ouc^ros. The proper spellmg would dien
be simcerus^ and euphonically sincerus: thus we
have sim-pleXy which does not mean without a
6)ld, but (semel plioo, trKiiuo) onoe folded. So
also singvlusy semel and termination. The proper
meaning may be from tablets, iserata tabeutBy
which were ^onoe smeared with wax" and then
written «pon; they were then sineerm^ without
forgery or dec^>tion. If they were in certain
places covered with wax again, for the purpose of
adding something secretly and deceptively, they
cease to be sindertis. J. T. Jeffcogk,
n. B. asks me for some authority for the
sdleged practice of Koman potters (or crock-
vendors) to rub wax into the flaws of their un-
sound vessels. This was the very burden of my
Query] I am no proficient in the Latin classics :
jret I think I know enough to predicate that n. B.
IS wrong in his version of the line —
^ Sincerum est nisi vas, quodcunque iafundis acescit."
I understand this line as referring to the noto-
rious fact, that some liquors turn sour if the air
gets to them from without. " Sincerum vas" is a
sound or air-tight vessel. In another place (^Saf.,
lib. i. 3.), Horace employs the same figure, where
he says that we " call evil good, and good evil,"
figuring the sentiment thus :
" At noa virtutes ipsas invertimus, atque
Sincerum eupimus vas incrustare '* —
meaning, of course, that we bring the vessel into
suspicion, by treating it as if it were flawed.
Dryden, no doubt, knew the radical meaning of
sincere when he wrote the lines cited by Johnson :
" He try'd a tough well-chosen spear ;
Th' inviolable body stood sincere."
C. Mansfiejld Ingleby.
Birmingham.
The Saltpetre Man (Vol. viii., p. 225.). — In
addition to the curious particulars of this office,
I send you an extract from Abp. Laud*s Diary :
" December 13, Monday. I received letters from
Brecknock ; tliat the saltpeter man was dead and buried
the Sunday before the messenger came. This saltpeter
man had digged in the CoUedge Church for his work,
bearing too bold upon his commission. The news of
it came to me to London about November 26. I went
to my Lord Keeper, and had a messenger sent to
bring him up to answer that sacrilegious abuse. He
prevented his punishment by death."
John S. Bueh.
Major Andre (Vol. viii., p. 174.). — Tliere is
in the picture gallery of Yule College, New Haven,
Conn., an original sketch of Major Andre, ex-
ecuted by himself with pen and ink, and without
the aid of a glass. It was drawn in his guard-
room on the morning of the day first fixed for hii
execution. J. B.
Longevity (Vol. viii., p. 182.).— A DouBXBa Is
informed that the NationallnieUigencer (published
at Washington, and edited by Messrs. Gales and
Seaton) is ^e authority for my statement re-
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Love Charm from aFoaVs Forehead (Vol. viii.,
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ove charm, consisting of a fig-shaped excrescence
on a foaFs forehead, and called Hippomanes,
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** HippomaneSfCarmenque loquar, coctumque venenum,
Privignoque datum ? "
And again, 615. :
** ut avunculus ille Neronis,
Cui totam tremuli frontem Caesonia pulli
Infudit."
It was supposed that the dam swallowed this
excrescence immediately on the birth of her foal,
and that, if prevented doing so, she lost all affec-
tion for it.
However, the name Hippomanes was appUed to
two other things. Theocritus (ii. 48.) uses it to
signify some herb which incites norses to madness
if they eat of it.
And again, Virgil (Geor. iii. 280.), Propertius,
Tibullus, Ovid, &c., represent it as a certain
virus :
'* Hippomanes cupidae stillat ab inguine equse."
The subject is an unpleasant one, and H. P. is
referred for farther information to Pliny, vui. 42.
8. 66., and xxvui. 11. s. 80. H. C. K.
This lump was called Hippomanes ; which also
more truly designated, according to Virgil, an-
other thing. The following paragraphs from Mr.
Keightley's excellent Notes on VirgiVs Bucolics
and Oeorgics will fully explain both meanings :
'* Hippomanes, horse-rage : the pale yellov^ fiuid
which passes from a mare at that season [». e. when she
is horsing] (cf. Tihul, ii. 4. 58.), of which the sm^
(jaura^ V. 251.) incites the horse.
** Vero nomine. Because the bit of flesh which was
said to be on the forehead of the new-born foal, and
which the mare was supposed to swallow, was called
by the same name (see ^n, iv. 515. ) ; and also a
plant in Arcadia ( Theocr. il 48.). With respect to the
former Hippomanes, Pliny, who detailed truth and false-
hood with equal faith, says (vui. 42.) that it grows on
the foaPs forehead ; is of the size of a dried fig (^carioa)t
and of a Mack colour ; and that if the mare does not
swallow it immediately, she will not let the foal suck
her. Aristotle (/T. A., viii. 24. ) says this is merely aa
old wives* tale. He mentions, however, the tc&KioVy ot
bit of livid flesh, which we call the foal's bit, and which
he says the mare ejects before the foal.** — Notes, Sfc,
p. 278. on Georffic. iii. 280. £
With regard to the plant called Hippomanes^
commentators, as may oe seen from Kiessling's
note on Theocritus, ii. 48., are by no means
agreed. Certainly Andrews, in his edition of
Freund, is wrong in referring Virgil Oeorgic. m.
283. to that meaning. The use of legere vrohsLlly
misled. £. S. Jackson.
Wardhouse, where was? (Vol. viii., p. 78.).—
It probably is the same as W%rdoehuus or
Vardoehus, a district and town in Norwegian
Finmark, on the shores of the Arctic Ocean, in-
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W. C. Tbsteltak.
Wallington.
Divining Bod (Vol. •viii., p. 293.). — The in-
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Herbert Mayo, in his letters On the Truths con*
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To the facts there recorded I may add, that I
have heard Mr. Dawson Turner relate that he
himself saw the experiment of the divining rod
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Noel Byron ; and some account of it is to be
found, I believe, in an article by Sir F. Palgrave,
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Waugh^ Bishop of Carlisle (Vol.yiii., p. 271.).—
His arms are engraved on a plate dedicated to
him by Willis, in his Survey of the Cathedrals of
England^ 1742, vol. i. p. 284., and appear thus,
Argent^ on a chevron gules^ three besants ; but in a
MS. collection by the late Canon Kowling of
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of Lincoln ; Dean of Gloucester ; and Bishop <»
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Pagoda (Vol. v., p. 415.). — The European word
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of the syllables, from da-gO'ba, which is the Pali
or Sanscrit name for a Budhist temple. It ap-
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the word in Ceylon, the modem holy isle of
Budhism. Ph.
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The Scottish National Records ....
Patrick Carey ------
Inedited Lyric by Felicia Hemans. by Weld Taylor
•* Green Eyes," by Harry Leroy Temple
Shakspeare Correspondence, by Samuel Hickson, &c. -
IffiNoa Notes : — Monumental Inscriptions — Marlbo-
rough at Blenheim — Etymology of " till," " until "
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Doctor — English Clergyman in Spain — Caldecott's
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Chapel— Perfect Tense — La Fleur des Saints —
Dasis — Book Reviews, their Origin — Martyr of
Collet Well — Black as a Mourning Colour— The
Word " Mardel," or " Mardle," whence derived? —
Analogy between the Genitive and Plural — Balllna
Castle — Henry I.'s Tomb — " For man proposes, but
God disposes ^' — Garrlck Street, May Fair — The
Forlorn Hope— Mitred Abbot In Wroughton Church,
Wilts — Reynolds' Portrait of Barrettl — Crosses on
Stoles — Temporalities of the Church — Etymology
of " The Llaard " — Worm in Books - - - 410
Minor Queribs with Answers:- Siller Gun of Dumfries
— Margery Trussell — Caves at Settle, Yorkshire —
The Morrow of a Feast — Hotchpot — High and Low
Dutch — " A Wilderness of Monkies '^— Splitting
Paper — The Devil on Two Sticks in England - 412
.Hbplibs : —
Stone Pillar Worship and Idol Worship, by William
Blood, &c. - - - - - - 413
•• BUgueur " and " Blackguard," by Phllar6te Chasles 414
Harmony of the Four Gospels, by C. Hardwick, T. J.
Buckion, Chris. Roberts, &c. . - - . 415
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The two principal causes of tlic loss of these
records are, the abstraction of them by Edward I,
in 1292, and the destruction of a ^reat many
others by the reformers in their religious zeal.
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Bruce, the history is not much to be depended on.
A great many valuable papers connected with the
ancient ecclesiastical state of Scotland were carried
off to the Continent by the members of the ancient
hierarchy, who retired there after the Reformation.
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and in the destruction of their depositories by
revolutions and otherwise. That a great many
are yet in existence abroad, as well as at home»
which would throw great light on Scottish history,
and which have not yet been discovered, there
is no doubt, notwithstanding the unceremonious
manner in which many of them were treated. At
the time when the literati were engaged in investi-
gating the authenticity of Ossian*s Poems (to ^o
no farther back), it was stated that there was m
the library of the Scotch College at Douay a
Gaelic MS. of several of the poems of great anti-
quity, and which, if produced, would have set the
question at rest. On farther inquiry, however, it
was stated that it had been torn up, along with
others, and used by the students for the purpose
of kindling the fires. It is gratifying to the an-
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being made, of great importance : it was announced
lately that there had been discovered at the Trea-
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of 1715-16, consistmg chiefly of informations of
persons said to have taken part in the rising ; and
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Hugh Cressingham. The letters patent have also
been found, by which, in 1304, William Lamber-
^ ton, Bishop of St. Andrew's, testified his having
come into the peace of the king of England, and
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bound himself to answer for the temporalities of
his bishopric to the English king. Stray dis-
coveries are now and then made m the charter-
rooms of royal bur^s, as sometime ago there
was found m the Town-house of Aberdeen a
charter and seyeral confirmations by King Robert
Bruce. The ecclesiastical records of Scotland
also suffered in our own day ; the original charters
of the assembly from 1560 to 1616 were presented
to the library of Sion College, London Wall,
London, in 1737, by the Honorable Archibald
Campbell (who had been chosen by the Presbyters
as Bishop of Aberdeen in 1721), under such con-
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becoming the propertjr of the Kirk of Scotland.
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committee of the House of Commons, the records
were produced and laid on the table of the com-
mittee-room on the 5th of May, 1834. They were
consumed in the fire which destroyed the houses
of parliament on the 16th of October of the same
year. It was only after 1746, and on the break-
mg up of the feudal system, when men's minds
b^an to calm down, that any attention was paid
to Scottish antiquities. Indeed, previous to that
period, had any one asked permission to examine
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purely for a literary purpose, he would have been
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of Ancient Charters; Documents and Records
illustrative of the History of Scotland^ edited by
Sir Francis Palgrave, 1837; Jamieson's History
of the Culdees ; Toland's History of the Druids ;
fialfour's History of the Picts ; Chalmers' Cale-
donia; Stuart's Caledonia Romana; History of
the House and Clan MacJtay ; The Genealogical
Account of the Barclays of Ury for uprvards of
700 Years; Gordon's History of the House of
Sutherland; M^Nicol's Remarks on Johnsons
Journey to the Western Isles; Kennedy's Annals
of Aberdeen; Dalrymple's Annals^ &c. &c.
Abbedonensis.
* See Scottish Journal^ Edinburgh, 1 847, p. S., for
a very interesting article on the Early Records of
Scotland.
PATBICK CABET.
Looking over Evelyn's Diary, edited by Mr.
Barry, 4to., 2nd edit., London, 1819, 1 came upon
the following. Evelyn being at Rome, in 1644,
says:
** I was especially recommended to Father John, a
Benedictine Monk and Superior of the Order for the
English College of Douay ; a person of singular learn-
ing, religion, and humanity ; also to Mr. Patrick Cary,
an abbot, brother to our learned Lord Falkland, a
witty young priest, who afterwards came over to our
church.**
It immediately occurred to me, that this " witty
young priest" might be Sir Walter Scott's protege^
and the author of ^^Triviall Poems and Triolets^
written in obedience to Mrs. Tomkins' commands
by Patrick Carey, Aug. 20, 1651," and published
for the first time at London in 1820, from a MS.
in the possession of the editor.
Sir Walter, in introducing his " forgotten poet,'*
merely informs us that his author "appears to
have been a gentleman, a loyalist, a lawyer, and a
rigid high churchman, if not a Roman Catholic."
In the first part of this book, which the author
calls his "Triviall Poems," the reader will find
ample proof that his character would fit the " witty
young priest" of Evelyn ; as well as the gentle
blood, and hatred to the Roundheads of Sir
Walter. As a farther proof that Patrick Carey
the priest, and Patrick the poet, may be identical^
take the following from one of his poems, com-
paring the old Church with the existing one :
" Our Church still flourishing w* had scene.
If th* holy-writt had euer becne
Kept out of laymen's reach ;
[ But, when 'twas £nglish*d, men halfe-witted.
Nay, woemen too, would be permitted,
T' expound all texts and preach."
The second part of Carey's poetical essays is
entitled " I will sing unto the Lord," and contains
a few "Triolets;" all of an ascetic savour, and
strongly confirmatory of the belief that the author
may have taken the monastic vow :
" Worldly designes, feares, hopes, farwell !
Farwell all earthly joyes and cares I
On nobler thoughts my soule shall dwell ;
Worldly designes, feares, hopes, farwell !
Att quiett, in my peaceful cell,
I'le thincke on God, free from your snares ;
Worldly designes, feares, hopes, farwell !
Farwell all earthly joys and cares.
Pleasure att courts is but in show.
With true content in cells wee meete ;
Yes (my deare Lord 1) I've found it soe,
Noe joyes but thine are purely sweete !*'
The quotation from the Psalms, which forms
the title to this second part, is placed above " a
helmet and a shield," which Sir W alter has trans-
OCX. 29. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
407
ferred to his title. This ^ bean what heralds call
a cross anchor^e, or a cross moUne^ with a moltov
Tant queje puis'* With the exception of the rose
beneath this, there is no identification here of
Patrick Carey with the Falkland familj. This
cross, placed before religious poems, may howerer
be intended to indicate their subjects, and the
writer's profession, rather than his family es-
cutcheon ; although that may be pointed at in the
rose alluded to, the Falklandis bearing ** on a bend
three roses of the field.** J. O.
[" Ah ! you do not tnow Pat Carey, a younger
brother of Lord Falkland*s,** says the disguised Prince
Charles to Dr. Albany RocheclLBTe in Sir Walter Scott's
Woodstock, So completely has the fame of the great
Lord Falkland eclipsed that of his brothers^ that many
are, doubtless, in the same blissful state with good
Dr. Rocheeliffe, although two editions of the poet's
works have been given to the world. In 1771, Mr.
John Murray published the poems of Carey, from a
collection alleged to be in the hands of a Rev. Pierre-
pont Cromp, apparently a fictitious name. In 1820,
Sir Walter Scot^ ignorant, as he confesses himself, at
the time of an earlier edition, edited once more the
poems, employing an original MS. presented to him
by Mr. Murray. In a note in Woodttocky Sir Walter
sums up the information he had procured concerning
the author, which, scanty as it is, is not without in>
terest. " Of Carey,** he says, " the second editor, like
the first, only knew the name and the spirit of the
verses. He has since been enabled to ascertain that
the poetic cavalier was a younger brother of the cele-
brated Henry Lord Carey, who fell at the battle of
Newberry, and escaped the researches of Horace Wal-
pole, to whose list of noble authors he would have been
an important addition." The first edition of the poems
appeared under the following title, Poems from a ManU'
script written in the Time of Oliver Cromwell^ 4to. 1771,
1«. 6d. : Murray. It contains only nine pieces, whereas
the present edition contains thirty-seven. — Ed.]
INEDITED LTBIC BT FELICIA HEMAN8.
A short time since I discovered the following in
the handwriting of Mrs. Hemans, and it accom-
panied an invitation of a more prosaic description
to a gentleman of her acquaintance, and a relative
of mine, now deceased. I thought it worth pre-
serving, in case any future edition of her works
appeared ; but the 13th, 14th, and 15th lines are
defective, from the seal, or some other accident,
having torn them off, and one is missing. And
though perhaps it would not be difficult to restore
them, yet I have not ventured to do so myself.
The last two lines appear to convey a melancholy
foreboding of the poet's sad and early fate. Can
any one restore the defective parts ?
WSLD TATI.OB.
Bayswater.
Water IMiM,
Come away, Fuck, while the dew is sweet ;
Come to the dingle where fairies meet.
Know that the lilies have spread their bells
0*er all the poob in our mossy dells ;
Stilly and lightly their vases rest
On the quivering sleep of the waters* breast.
Catching the sunshine thro* leaves that Qaow
To their scented bosoms an emerald glow ;
And a star from the depth of each pearly cup^
A golden star ! unto heaven looks up.
As if seeking its kindred, where bright they lie,
Set in the blue of the summer sky.
.... under arching leaves we'll float,
.... with reeds o'er the fairy moat,
.... forth wild music both sweet and low.
It shall seem from the rich flower's heart,
As if 'twere a breeze, with a flute's faint sigh.
Come, Puck, for the midsummer sun srows strong.
And the life of the Lily may not be long. — Mab*
"gseen etbs.'
Having long been familiar with only one in»
stance of the possession of eyes of this hue — the
well-known case of the "^r<?e7<-«yed monster Jea*
lousy," — and not having been led by that associ«
ation to think of them as a beauty, I have bees
surprised lately at finding them not unfrequently
seriously admired. Ex, gr, :
** Victorian, How is that young and ^reen^eyed
Gaditana
That you both wot of?
Don Carlos, Ay, soft emerald eyes \
Victorian, A pretty girl : and in her tender eyes^
Just that soft shade of green we sometimes see
In evening skies. *'
Longfellow's Spanish Student, Act IL Sc. 3.
Mr. Longfellow adds in a note :
*'The Spaniards, with good reason, consider this
colour of the eye as beautiful, and celebrate it in a
song ; as, for example, in the well-known Villancieo : j
* Ay ojuelos verdes,
Ay los mis ojuelos,
Ay hagan los cielos
Que de mi te acuerdes f
Tengo confianza,
De mis verdes ojou,* **
Bbhl de Faber, Fhresta, No. S55,
I have seen somewhere, I think in one of the
historical romances of Alexander Dumas (F^re)>
a popular jingle about
" La belle Duchesse de Nevers,
Auz yeux verts," &c.
And lastly, see Two Oendemen of Verom^
Act IV. Sc. 4., where the ordinary text has :
** Her eyes are grey as glass, and so are mine.**]
Here *' The MS. corrector of the folio 1682 qagt'^
verts * grey' into ^ green ;' * Her eyes are green 90-
408
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 209.
grass ;* and such, we bave good reason to suppose,
was the true reading." (Collier's Shakspeare Notes
and Emendations^ p. 25.)
The modem slang, " Do you see anything green
in my eyeP** can hardlpr, I suppose, be called in
evidence on the question of fceauty or ugliness.
Is there any more to be found in favour of ^* green
£yesf'^ Habbt Lebot Tbmflb.
SHAKSPEABB COBBESPONPENCE.
On the Death of Falstaff (Tol. viii., p. 314.). —
The remarks of your correspondents J. B.^ and
Nemo on this subject are so obvious, and I think I
jnay also admit in a measure so iust, that it ap-
pears to me only respectful to tnem, and to all
who may feel reluctant to give up Theobald's
reading, that I should give some detailed reason
for dissenting from their conclusion.
In the first place, when Falstaff began to " play
with flowers, and smile upon his fingers' ends," it
was no far-fetched thought to place him in fancy
amon^ green fields ; and if the^ disputed passage
were m immediate connexion with the above, the
argument in its favour would be stronger. But,
unfortunately, Mrs. Quickly brings in here the
conclusion at which she arrives : " I knew there
was but one way ; /or," she adds, as a farther
reason, and referring to the physical evidences
upon his frame of the approach of death, " his nose
was as sharp as a pen on a table of ereen frieze."
We can hardly imagine him "babbling" at this
moment. "How now. Sir John, quoth I;" she
continues, apparently to rouse him : " What, man I
be of good cheer. So [thus roused] 'a cried out —
God, God, God I three or four times : now, I to
comfort him," &c. Does this look as though he
were in the happy state of mind your correspon-
dents imagine P 1 take no account of his crying
out of sack and of women, &c., as that might have
been at an earlier period. At the same time it
does not follow, had Shakspeare intended to re-
place him in fancy amid the scenes of his youth,
that he should have talked of them. A man who
is (or imagines he is) in green fields, does not talk
about green fields, however he may enjoy them.
Both your correspondents seem to anticipate this
difficulty, and meet it by supposing Falstaff to be
" babbling snatches of hymns ; " but this I con-
ceive to DC far beyond the limits of reasonable
conjecture. In fact, the whole of their very beau-
tiful theory rests upon the very disputed passage
in question. At an earlier period apparently, his
mind did wander ; when, as Mrs. Quickly says, he
was " rheumatick," meaning doubtless lunatic, that
is, delirious ; and then he talked of other things.
When he began to " fumble with the sheets, and
play with flowers, and smile upon his fingers*
ends," though for a moment he might have
fancied himself even " in his mother's lap," or any-
thing else, he was clearly past all " baboling." In
saying this, I treat Falstaff as a human being who
lived and died, and whose actions were recorded
by the faithfullest observer of Nature that ever
wrote. Samuel Hickson.
Passage in " Tempest^-^
*< Thy banks with pioned and twilled brims.
Which spongy April at thy best betrims,
To make cold nymphs chaste crowns.'*
Tempett, Act IV. Sc. 1.
The above is the reading of the first folio.
Pioned is explained by Mb. Gollieb, " to dig," aa
in Spenser; but Mb. Halliwbll (Mono^pk
Shakspeare, vol. i. p. 425.) finds no authority to
support such an interpretation. Mb. Collieb's
anonymous annotator writes "tilled;" but surely
this is a very artificial process to be performed bv
" spongy April." Hanmer proposed " peopled ;^ '
Heath, " lilied ;" and Mb. H aixiwell admits this
is more poetical (and surely more correct), but
appears to prefer " twilled," embroidered or inter-
woven with flowers. A friend of mine suggested
that "lilied" was peculiarly appropriate to form
"cold nymphs chaste crowns,' from its imputed
power as a preserver of chastity : and in Mb.
Halliwell's folio, several examples are quoted
from old poets of " peony " spelt " piony ;" and of
both peony and lily as " defending from unchaste
thoughts." Surely, then, the reading of the first
folio IS a mere typographical error, and peonied and
lilied the most poetical and correct. £ste.
Monumental Inscriptions (Vol. viii., p. 215. &c.).
—I have never seen the monumental inscription
of Theodore Palseologus accurately copied in any
book. When in Cornwall lately, I took the
trouble to copy it, and as some of your readers
may like to see the thing as it is, I send it line for
line, word for word, and letter for letter. It is
found, as is well known, in the little out-of-the-
way church of St. Landulph, near Saltash.
** Here lyeth the body of Theodoro Paleologus
Of Pesaro in Italye, descended from y* Imperyall
Lyne of y* last Christian Emperors of Greece
Being the sonne of Camilio, y* sohe of Prosper
the Sonne of Theodoro the sonne of lohn, y* sonne
of Thomas, second brother to Constantino
Paleologus, the 8th of that name and last of
y* lyne y* raygned In Constantinople, untill sub-
dewed by the Turkes, who married with Mary
Y* daughter of William Balls of Hadlye in
Souffolke Gent, & bad issue 5 children, Theo-
doro, lohn, Ferdinando, Maria & Dorothy, and de-
parted this life at Ciyfton y« 2V^ of January, 1636."
Ed. St. Jacksoit.
Oct. 29. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
409
Marlborough at Blenheim, — Extract from a
MS. sermon preached at Bitton (in Gloucester-
shire ?) on the day of the thanksgiving for the
victory near Hochstett, anno 1704. (By the
Reverend Thomas Earle, afterwards Vicar of
Malmesbury ?)
" And so I pass to the great and glorious occasion
of this day, w** gives us manifold cause of praise and
thanksgiving to Almighty God for . . . mercies
and deliverances. For y« happy success of her Ma-
jesty's arms both by land and sea [under the] Duke of
Marlborough, whose fame now flies through the world,
and whose glorious actions will render his name iU
lustrious, and rank him among the renowned worthies
of all ages. Had that threatning Bullet, w'^ bespat-
tered him all over with dirt, only that he might shine
the brighter afterwards ; had it, I say, took away his
Life, he had gone down to the grave with the laurels
in his hand."
Is this incident of the bullet mentioned in any
of the cotemporary accounts of the battle ? E.
JEtymohgy of " /i7/," " untile — Many monosyl-
lables in language are, upon examination, found to
be in reality compounds, disguised by contraction.
A few instances are, non^ Lat. ne-un-(us) ; dorU^
Fr. de-unde ; such^ Eng. so-like ; whichy who-like.
In like manner I believe till, to- while, and until,
unto-while. Now while is properly a substantive,
and signifies time, corresponding to dum, Lat., in
many of its uses, which again is connected with
diu, dies, both which are used in the indefinite
sense of a while, as well as in the definite sense of
a day, Adesdum, come here a while ; interdum,
between whiles. If re (Gr.) is connected with
this root, then iare, to-while, till. Lawrence
Minot says, " To time (till) he thinks to fight."
Dum has the double meaning of while and to-
whUe, E. S. Jacksok.
Dog-whipping Day in Hull, — There was some
time since the singular custom in Hull, of whip-
ping all the dogs that were found running about
the streets on October 10 ; and some thirty years
since, when I was a boy, so common was the prac-
tice, that every little urchin considered it his duty
to prepare a whip for any unlucky dog that might
be seen in the streets on this day. This custom
is now obsolete, those " putters down" of all boys'
play in the streets — the new police — having
efiectually stopped this cruel pastime of the Hull
boys. Perhaps some of your readers may be able
to give a more correct origin of this singular cus-
tom than the one I now give from tradition :
" Previous to ths suppression of monasteries in Hull,
it was the custom for the monks to provide liberally
for the poor and the wayfarer who came to the fair,
held annually on the 11th of October ; and while busy
in this necessary preparation the day before the fair,
a dog strolled into the larder, snatched up a joint of
meat and decamped with it. The cooks gave the alarm ;
and when the dog got into the street, he was pursued
by the expectants of the charity of the monks, who
were waiting outside the gate, and made to give up the
stolen joint. Whenever, after this, a dog showed his
face, while this annual preparation was going on, he
was instantly beaten off. Eventually this was taken
up by the boys ; and, until the introduction of the new
police, was rigidly put in practice by them every 10th
of October.**
I write this on October 10, 1853 : and so
efiectually has this custom been suppressed, that I
have neither seen nor heard of any dog having
been this day whipped according to ancient cus-
tom. John Bichasdson.
13. Savile Street, Hull.
State : Hamlet, Act I. Sc. 1. — Professor Wilson
proposed that in the ^^ high and palmy state of
Rome," state should be taken in the sense of city :
** Write henceforth and for ever State with a tower-
ing capital. State, properly republic, here specifically
and pointedly means Reigning City. The ghosts
walked in the city, not in the republic.*' — Vide "'Dies
Boreales,'* No. 111., Dlackivood, August, 1849.
Query, Has this reading been adopted by our
skilled Shakspearian critics ?
Coleridge uses state for city in his translation of
The Death of Wallenstein, Act III. Sc. 7. :
" What think you ?
Say, shall we have the State illuminated
In honour of the Swede ? '*
J.M.B.
e^ueritij*
P0LABIS£D lilGHT.
During the last summer, while amusing myself
with verifying a statement of Sir D. Brewster re-
specting the light of the rainbow, viz. that it is
polarised in particular planes, I observed a pheno-
menon which startled me exceedingly, inasmuch as
it was quite new to me at the time ; and, notwith-
standing subsequent inquiries, I cannot find that it-
has been observed by any other person. I found,
that the light of the blue sky is partially polarised.
When analysed with a Nicols* prism, the contrast
with the surrounding clouds is very remarkable ;
so much so, indeed, that clouds of extreme tenuity,
which make no impression whatever on the un-
assisted eye, are rendered plainly visible.
The most complete polarisation seems to take
place near the horizon ; and, when the sun is near
the meridian, towards the west and east. The
depth of colour appears to be immaterial, as far
as I have been able to ascertain with an instru-
ment but rudely constructed for the purpose. The
light is polarised in planes passing through the
410
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. S09.
oye of the ob»erver, wid ■res of great circles in-
teTfecling tlie aun'i diso.
From the ftbaeooe (lo far u I un aware) of all
mentioD of thu remarkable fact in worka on the
■ubject, I am led to conclude t^at it is Bomethiiis
new ; ahould this, however, turn out otberwise, J
diall be obliged bj a reference to anj author who
esplaing the phenomenon. The greater intensity
towards the noriion wojid point to successive
reftaotioQS as the most probable theorj. H. C. K.
"SoIm* Populi," it. — What is the origin of
the u;ing, " Salus populi suprema lex F " £. M.
DramaHe Reprtsenbitioju by tiit Hour-glatt. —
I have seen it stated (but am now unable to trace
the reference) that, in the infancy of the drama,
ita reprewntationi were sometimes regulated bj
tbe houi>glasi. Does the history of the art, either
•mong the Greeks or the Romana, furniah aoy
well-autheDliaaled inatance of tbis practice f
Hbnet H. Binit.
this the proper mods of interpretation, or is tWe
StAeeo, p. 948. — What name are these com-
posite initials meant to represent f The Othen
are eaaily deciphered. Should we read StiKeeo:=
Sarah Nelson Coleridge ? J. H. B.
E7\gliih Clergyman in Spain. — T am anxious to
discover tbe capacity in which a certain clergrman
was present with the English army in Spain
early in the eighteenth century (probably with
Lord Peterborough's expedition). Can any readers
of " N. Si'Q." refer me to any book or record fitnu
.. I ■ •. t . ^ obtun this information f D. Y.
Parry and Son, Chester, dated IB34. It ia en-
titled Moll/ Wntingt of ttu Firil Chriitiaiu, eaUtd
tA« Nem Ttibtment (the text written fVom the
oommon veraion, but altered by comparing with
the Greek), with notes. I shall be glad to know
who lifr. Oddecott wna or is f and whether Uia
JoKn CmnphiiU of Jamaica. — I shall be Tery
nuoh obliged if any of four reader* can (rive me
any information respecting John Campbell, £s(].,
of Gibraltar, Trelawny, Jamaica, who died in
January, 1817, at Clifton (I believe), but to whose
memoi7 a monument was erected in Bristol Ca-
thedral by his widow. I abould be glad to know
her maiden name, and whether he left anysur-
Tiving family f Also bow he was related to a
family going by thi name of IJanam or Hannam,
-who lived at Arkindale, Yorkshire, about one
hundred years before the date of his decease ; he
appears, loo, to have bad some connexion with a
person named laaae Madley, or Bradley, and
through his mother with the Turners of Klrk-
lea^am. This inquiry is made in the hope of
unravelling a genealogical difficulty whiuh has
hitherto baffled all endeavour to solve it.
D.E.B.
Lsaraington.
Hodfhinfi Tr§e, Warmiclu — In the plan of
Warwick, drawn on Speed's Map of that county,
b a tree at the end of West Street, called on the
plan ** Hodgkins's Tree :" against this tree is re-
presented a gun, pointed to the left towards the
fields. — Can any of your readers furnish tbe tra-
dition to this tree pertaining F 0, L. R. Q,
TheDoolor,^., p. S,, one volume edition. — The
sentence in the Garamna tongue, if anrgramina-
tiied into " You who have written Madoc and
Tbalaba and Kehama," would require a i( to
be substituted for an A in Wheliaha. Query, Is
WttOatoMe Chapel. — There ia a ruin of a
ehapel in the hamlet of Westhumble, in Miekle-
hsm, Surrey. At what time was it builtf To
what aaint consecrated F and from what oausa
Perfect Tetue. — In Albit^' "Companion" to
Soic to Mffok French, one of the first exercises is to
turn into French the following phrase, " I liave
seen him vestenlay." I should be much obliged
to Ma. J. S. Wa>dbn (to whom all readers of
" N. & Q." stand so greatly indebted for his ex-
cellent article on " WiU and Shall "), if he would
state the rule for the uae of the perfect tense in En-
^lish in respect to spedfied time, and the rationalt
involved in such rule. C. MaHSFiitLD InaLBBT.
Birmingham.
e, I'autr* Jour, noui rompit da sn main*
Uii mouehoir qu'il trouva dan* una FUmr die Mali,
Dlnot qua noui mftlians, parua oiims •Btoysblst
AvM la aainlstt la pknina du diable.'
Can any of your readers inform me what Fleur
del Sainti was t Was it a book F If so, what
were lis contents f C. P. G.
Otuie. — Can any oorrespondent inform me of
the correct quantity of the second syllable of ihls
word F In Smith's OeagrepHical Dictionary it is
marked long, while Andrews' Xexinm gives it
Oct. 29. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
411
short, neitber of tbem giving anj reason for their
respecdve quantities. T.
Book Reviews^ their Origin. — ^Dodsley published
in. 1741 The Public Register, or the Weekly
Magazine. Under the head of " Records of Lite-
rature/* he undertook to give a compendious
account of " whatever works are published either
at home or abroad worthy the attention of the
public." Was this small beginning the origin of
our innumerable reviews ? W. Ceamp.
Martyr of Collet Well. — One James Martyr, in
1790, bought of George Lake the seat called
Collet Wefl, in the parish of Otford. Can anj
reader of " N. & Q. tell from what family this
Martyr sprang, and what their armorial bearings
are? Q.M.S.
Slack as a Mourning Colour. — Can any of your
correspondents kindly inform me when black was
first known in England, as the colour of mourning
robes ? We read in Hamlet :
** *Tis not alone ray inky cloak, good mother.
Nor customary suits of solemn black,
That can denote me truly.'*
w.w.
Malta.
The Word " Mardel,'' or " Mardle,'' whence de-
rived f — It is in common use in the east of Nor-
folk in the sense of to gossip, thus : " He would
mardel there all day long," meaning, waste his
time in gossiping. J. L. Sisson.
Analogy between the Genitive and Plural. — In a
note by Kev. J. Bandinel, in Mr. Christmas' edi-
tion of Pegge's Anecdote's of the English Language,
1844, the question is asked at p. 167. :
'* Why is there such an analogy, in many languages,
between the genitive and the plural ? In Greek, in
Latin, in English, and German, it is so. What is the
cause of this?*'
Can you point me to any work where this hint
has been carried out ? H. T. G.
Hull.
BaRina Castle. — Where can I see a view of
Ballina Castle, in the county of Mayo ? and what
is the best historical and descriptive account of
that countv, or of the town of Castlebar, or other
places in the county ? 0. L. K. G.
Henry I.^s Tomb. — Lyttleton, in his History of
England, quoting from an author whose name I
forget, states that no monument was ever erected
to the memory of this kin<^ in Reading Abbey.
Man, on the contrary, in his History of Reading,
without quoting his authority, states that a
splendid monument was erected with recumbent
figures of Henry and Adelais, his second wife ;
which was destroyed by the mistaken zeal of the
populace during the Reformation.
Which of these statements is the true one?
And if Man*8 be, on what authority is it probably
founded P Fembrokisnszs.
^^ For man proposes, hut Ood disposes.^* — This
celebrated saying is in book i. elk xiz. of the
English translation of De Imitatione Christi, of
which Hallam says more editions have been pub-
lished than of any other book except the Bible. —
Can anj of your correspondents tell me whether
the saying originated with the author, Thomas A.
Kempis ? A. B. C.
Oarrick Street, May Fair. — In Hertford Street,
May Fair, there is fixed in the wall of a house
(No. 15.) a square stone on which is inscribed :
« Garrick Street, January 15, 1764."
I shall be glad to know the circumstances con-
nected with this inscription, which is not in any
way alluded to in the works descriptive of London
to which I have referred. C. L R.
The Forlorn Hope. — The " Forlorn Hope *' is
the body of men who volunteer first to enter a
besieged town, after a breach has been made in
the fortifications. That I know : but it is evi-
dently some quotation, and if any of your readers
should be able to give any information as to its
origin, and where it is to be found, I should, as I
said before, be much obliged. Fentoit.
Mitred Abbot in Wroughton Church, Wilts. —
Not very long ago, while this church was under
repair, there was discovered on one of the pillars,
behind the pulpit, a fresco painting of a mitred
abbot. I have corresponded with the rector on
the subject, but unfortunately he kept no drawinff
of it ; and all the information he is able to afford
me is, that ** the vestments were those ordinarily
pourtrayed, with scrip, crosier," &c. Such being the
case, I have troubled " N. & Q." with this Query,
in the hope that some one may be able to give me
farther information as to date, name, &c.
RUSELL GOLE.
Reynold^ Portrait of BarretH. — Can any of
your correspondents inform me where the portrait
of Barretti, by Sir Joshua Reynolds, now is ?
Geo. R. CoBNxm.
Crosses on Stoles. — When were the three
crosses now usually embroidered on priests*
stoles in the Roman Catholic Church introauced ?
Were they used in England before the Reform-
ation P In sepulchral brasses the stoles, although
embroidered and fringed, and sometimes abo
enlarged at the ends, are (so far as I have ob-
served) without the crosses. If used, what was
their form? H.P.
41S
NOTES AND QUEBIES.
[Na SOS.
Temporalities of the Church. — Is there any
record esisting of a, want of money for the main-
tenance of the clerfiy, or for otber pious uses, in
any part of Ihe world before the establishment of
the Chnstian religion under Constantine 7 or of
any necessity having arisen for enforcing the
payment of tithes or oflerings by ecclesiastical
censures during that period f H. P.
Eb/mdt^y of ^^ The Ziiiuvf." — What is the
etymology of the name "The Lizard," aa applied
in our maps to that long low green point, stretch-
ing out into the sea at the extreme south of
England ? My idea of the etymology would be
(judging from the name and pronunciation of a
small town in the immediate neighbourhood of the
point) lys-ard, from two Celtic words : the first,
lys, as found in the name Liamore, and others of a
like class in Ireland and the Highlands of Scotland;
the second ard, a long point running into the sea.
In Cornwall, to my ear, the name had quite the
Celtic intonation i^^-dn/; not at all like LtzSrd,
B3 we would speak it, short. C. D, liAuoNT.
Green«k.
Worm in Books. — Can you or any of your nu-
merous correspondents sujrgest a remedy for the
worm in old books and MSS. t I know of a valu-
able collection in the muniment room of a noble-
man in the country, which is suffering severely at
tie present time from the above destructive agent ;
and although smoke has been tried, and shavings
of Russia leather inserted within the pages of the
books, the evil still exists. As this question has
most likely been asked before, and answered in
your valuable little work, I shall be obliged by
your pointing out in what volume it occurs, as I
nsTe not a set hy me to refer to and thus save
you the trouble. Aletbeb.
tainar Auttiei ioitb ?itvtfatrS.
Silkr Oun of Dumfries. — Can any of your
readers tell me the history of the " Siller Gun of
Dundee" [Dumfries], and give me an account of
the annual shooting tor it? O. L. E. G.
[The Siller gun of Dumfries is a small silver tube,
like the barrel of s pistol, but derives grest imparlance
liromi its being the gift of James VI., thst monarch
having ordained it as a prize to the best marksman
among the corpomlions of Dumfries. The contest
was, b; royal auttiority, licensed to take place every
year ; but in consequence of the trouble and eipense
attending it, the custom has not been so frequently
observed. Whenever the festival was appointed, the
4th of June, during the long reign of George III.,
was invariably chosen for that pnrpose, being bis
majesty's birthday. The institution itself may be re-
garded aa a memorial of the Waponihau, or showing
of arms, the ttiootjng at butts and bowmarfcs, and
other military and gymnastic sports, uiliodueed by our
ancestors to keep alive, hy competition aiid priiea, the
arrow : at Dumfries the contest w»» Iransferied to
in five cantos, by John Mayne, 1836.]
Margery Trassell, — Margery, daughter an J
coheiress of Roger Trussell, of Macclesfield,
married Edmund de Dowjies fof the old Cheshire
family of Downes of Tasall, Sbrigley, &c.) in the
fourth year of EdwRrd II. Query, What arms
did she bear? and were the Trussells of Maccles-
field of the some family as that which, in con-
sequence of a marriage with an heiress of Main-
waring, settled at Warminehnm, in the reign of
Edward III , and whose heiress, in later times,
married a De Verc, Earl of Oxford ?
W. Smbtd.
Denton.
[In the Harleian MS. 4031. fol. 170. is a long and
curious pedigree of ihe Trussells and their intermar-
riage vith the Mainivarings, in the person of Sic
William Trussell, Lord of Cubbleston, with Maud,
daughter and heiress of Sir Warren Mainwaring, The
arms are: Argent a fret gu. heianl^ for TrusaelL The
same arms are found on the window of the cbarch of
Warmineham in Cheshire. Tliese would consequently
be the arms of Margery, daughter of Rt^er Truaell.
The arms originally were : Argent a cross form£e flory
gu. ; but changed on the marriage of Sir William
Trussell of Mershton, co. Northampton, with Rose.
daughter and heiress to William Fantolph, Lord of
Cubbleston, who bore. Argent a fret gu. becante.]
Caves (U Settle, Yorkshire. — Being engaged on
antiquarian investigations, I have found it neces-
saiy to refer to some discoveries made in the caves
at Settle in Yorkshire, of which my friends in that
county have spoken. Now, I cannot find any
printed account. I have referred to all the works
on the county antiquities, and particularly to Mr^
Phillips's book lately published ^which professes to
describe local antiquities), but m vain. I cannob
find any notice of them. It is very likely some
one of your better-informed readers may be abia
to assist me, Bbiqahtia.
Battersea.
[Sea two letters by Charles Roach Smith and Joseph
Jackson in Archaolngia, vol. xiii. p. 384., on the " Ro-
man Remains discovered in the Caves near Settle in
Yorkshire." Our correspondent has perhaps toosulted
(he following work -. — A Tour to Ihe Covei in Ihe S»-
virom of Ingleborongh and Silllt, in Ihi Ifeal Hiding of
rbriihirt, 8vo. 1781.]
The Morrow of a Feast. — It appears from the
papers, that the presentation of the civic function-
aries to the Cursitor Baron at Westminster, took
place on Sept. 30. Pray is this the tnorrout ai
St. Michael, as commonly supposed ? Does not the
analog; of " Morrow of All Souls " (certainly tlie
Oct. 29. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
413
«ame day as All Souls Day, i, e. Nov. 2) point out
tliat the Morrow of St. Michael is the 29th, t. e,
Michaelmas Day. That morrow was anciently
equivalent to morning, we may infer from the fol-
lowing passages :
^* Upon a morrow tide." — Gower, Conf, Am., b. iii.
** Tho* when appeared the third morrow bright,
Upon the waves," &c.
Spenser's Fairy Queen, ii. xii. 2.
« Good morrow." — Passim.
R. H.
"[Is not our correspondent confounding the morrow
of All Saints, which the 2nd of November certainly is,
with the morrow of All Souls ? Sir U. Nicolas, in his
Biost useful Chronology of History, says most distinctly:
— " The morrow of a feast is the day following. Thus,
the feast of St. Peter ad Vincula is the 1st of August,
and the morrow of that feast is consequently the 2nd of
August." — P. 99.]
Hotchpot — Will you kindly tell me what is the
derivation of the legal term hotchpot^ and when it
yras first used ? M. G. B.
[The origin of this phrase is involved in some ob-
scurity. Jacob, in bis Law Dictionary, speaks of it as
" from the French," and his definition is verbatim that
given in The Termes of the Law (ed. 1598), with a very
^ight addition. Blackstone (book ii. cap. 12.) says,
** which term I shall explain in the very words of Lit-
tleton : < It seemeth that this word hotchpot is in En-
glish a pudding ; for in a pudding is not commonly
just one thing alone, but one thing with other things
together.' By this housewifely metaphor our ancestors
meant to inform us that the lands, both those given
in frankmarriage, and those descending in fee-simple,
should be mixed and blended together, and then di-
idded in equal portions among all the daughters.**]
High and Low Dutch, — Is there any essential
difference between High and Low Dutch ; and if
there be any, to which set do the Dutchmen at
the Cape of Good Hope belong ? S. C. P.
[High and Low Dutch are vulgarisms to express
the German and the Dutch languages, which those
nations themselves call, for the German Deutsch, for
the Dutch HoUlindisch. The latter is the language
which the Dutch colonists of the Cape carried with
them, when that colony was conquered by them from
the Portuguese ; and has for its base the German as
spoken before Martin Luther's translation of the Bible
made the dialect of Upper Saxony the written lan-
guage of the entire German empire.]
" A Wilderness of MoTikeys.'* — Would you
kindly inform me where the expression is to be
found: "I would not do such or such a thing for
a wilderness of monkeys ? " C. A.
Ripley.
[" Tubal One of them showed me a ring that he
had of your daughter for a monkey.
** Shyloek. Out upon her ! Thou torturest me,
Tubal : it was my turquoise ; I had it of Leah, when
I was a bachelor : I would not have given it for a
wilderness of monkies" — Merchant of Venice, Act IIL
Sc. 1.]
Splitting Paper, — Could any of your readers
give the receipt for splitting paper, say a bank-
note? In no book can I find it, but I believe
that it IS known by many. H. C.
Liverpool.
[Paste the paper which is to be split between two
pieces of calico ; and, when thoroughly dry, tear them
asunder. The paper will split, and, when the calico is
wetted, is easily removed from it.]
The Devil on Two Scichs in England. — Who is
the author of a work, entitled as under ?
" The Devil upon Two Sticks in England ; being a
Continuation of Le Dlable Boiteux of Le Sage,
London : printed at the Logographic Press, and sold
by T. Walter, No. 169. Piccadilly; and W. Richard-
son, under the Royal Exchange, 1790."
It is a work of very considerable merit; an
imitation in style and manner of Le Sage, but
original in its matter. It is published in six
volumes 8vo. William Newman.
[William Coonibe, Esq., the memorable author of
The Diaboliad, and The Tour of Dr. Syntax in Search
of the Picturesque.']
Beplt>^«
STONE PILLAR WOBSHIP AND IDOL WORSHIP.
(Vol. v., p. 121. ; Vol. vii., p. 383.)
Stone Pillar Worship, — Sir J. E. Tennent in-
quires whether any traces of this worship are to be
K)und in Ireland, and refers to a letter from a corre-
spondent of Lord Koden^s, which states that the
peasantry of the island of Inniskea, off the coast of
Mayo, hold in reverence a stone idol called Neevougi,
This word I cannot find in my Irish dictionary,
but it is evidently a diminutive, formed from the
word JEevan (^ott)a]3), image, or idol : and it 13
remarkable that the scriptural Hebrew term for
idol is identical with the Irish, or nearly so —
J).? (^JEevan), derived from a root signifying nega^
tion, and applied to the vanity of idols, and to the
idols themselves.
I saw at Kenmare, in the county of Kerry, in
the summer of 1847, a water- worn fragment of
clay slate, bearing a rude likeness to the human
form, which the peasantry called Eevan, Its ori-
ginal location was in or near the old graveyard of
Kilmakillogue, and it was regarded with reverence
as the image of some saint in ** the ould auncient
times," as an " ould auncient *' native of Tuosisfc
(the lonely place) informed me. In the same im*
mediate neighbourhood is a guUaune (^aU^i)), or
stone pillar, at which the peasantry used " to give
414
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 209-
rounds ;** also the carious small lakes or tarns, on
which the islands were said to move on July 8, St.
Quinlan's [Kilian ?] Day. (See Smith's History
if Kerry.)
However, such superstitious usages are fast fall-
ing into desuetude ; and, whatever may have been
the early history of Eevan, it is a sufficient proof
of no vestige of stone pillar worship remaining in
Tuosist, that, to gratify the whim of a young gen-
tleman, some peasants from the neighbourhood
removed this stone fragment by boat to Kenmare
in the spring of 1846, where it now lies, perched
on the summit of a limestone rock in the grounds
of the nursery-house. J. L.
Dublin.
Idol Worship, — The islands of Inniskea, on the
north-west coast of Ireland, are said to be in-
habited b^ a population of about four hundred
human beings, who speak the Irish language, and
retain among them a trace of that government by
chiefs which in former times existed in Ireland.
The present chief or king of Inniskea is an intel-
ligent peasant, whose authority is universally ac-
knowledged, and the settlement of all disputes is
referred to his decision. Occasionally they have
been visited by wandering schoolmiisters, but so
short and casual have such visits been, that there
are not ten individuals who even know the letters
of any language. Though nominally Roman Ca-
tholics, these islanders have no priest resident
amone them, and their worship consists in occa-
sional meetings at their chief s house, with visits
to a holy well. Here the absence of religion is
filled with the open practice of pagan idolatry; for
in the south island a stone idol, called in the Irish
Neevaugi, has been from time immemorial reli-
giously preserved and worshipped. This god, in
appearance, resembles a thick roll of homespun
flannel, which arises from a custom of dedicating a
material of their dress to it whenever its aid is
sought : this is sewed on by an old woman, its
priestess, whose peculiar care it is. They pray to
it in time of sickness. It is invoked when a storm
is desired to dash some helpless ship upon the coast;
and, again, the exercise of its power is solicited in
calming the angry waves to admit of fishing.
Such is a brief outline of these islanders and
their god ; but of the early history of this idol no
authentic information has yet been obtained. Can
any of your numerous readers furnish an account
of it ? William Blood.
Wicklow.
"blagueub" and "blackguard."
(Vol. vii., p. 77.)
I cannot concur in opinion with Sir Emerson
Tbnmbnt, who thinks he has a right to identify
the sense of our low word hlagueur with that of
your lower one, blackguard, 1 allow that there is
some slight similitude of pronunciation between
the words, but I contend that their sense is per*
fectly distinct, or, rather, wholly different ; as db-
tant, in fact, as is the date of their naturalisation
in our respective idioms. Your blackguard had al-
ready won a *•*• local habitation and a name ** under
the reigns of Pope and his immediate predecessor
Dryden. Of all living unrespectable characters
our own blagueur is the youngest, the most inno-
cent, and the shyest. He is entirely of modern
growth. He has but lately emerged from the
soldier*s barracks, the suttler*s shop, and the mess-
room. As a prolific tale-teller ne amused the
leisure hours or superannuated sergeants and hal£>
pay subalterns. Ten or twelve years ago he had
not yet made his appearance in plain clothes ; he
is now creeping and winding his way with slow
and sure steps from his old haunts into some first-
rate cofiee-nouses and shabby-genteel drawing-
rooms, which Carlyle calls skam gentility. He
bears on his very brow the newest Jiuniv'Stamp,
The poor young fellow, afler all, is no villain ; he
has no kind of connexion with the horrid rascal
Sir Emerson Temnent alludes to — with the
blackguard. That he is a boaster, a talker, an
idiot, a nincompoop ; that he scatters ** words^
words, words," as Folonius did of old ; that he is
bombastic, wordy, prosy, nonsensical, and a fool,
no one will deny. But he is no rogue, though he
utters rc^ueries and drolleries. No one is justified
in slandering him.
The blackguard is a dirty fellow in every sense
of the word — Agredin (a cur), the true trans*
lation, by-the-bye, of the word blackguard, Vol-
taire, who dealt largely in Billingsgate, was very
fond of the word gredin :
** Je semble k trois grtdinst dans leur petit cenreau.
Que pour Stre imprimes et relics en veau," &c.
The word bla^ueur implies nothing so contemp-
tuous or offensive as the word blackguard does.
The emptiness of the person to whom it applies is
very harmless. Its etymon blague (bladder, to-
baccO'bag)y the pouch, which smoking voluptuaries
use to deposit their tobacco, is perfectly symbolic
of the inane, bombastic, windy, and long-winded
speeches and sayings of the blagueur. Every
French commercial traveller, buss-tooter, and Pa-
risian jarvy is one. When he deports himself with
modesty, and shows a gentlemanly tact in his pecu-
liar avocation, we call him a craqueur (a cracker).
** Ancient Pistol " was the king of blagueurs ; Fal-
staff, of craqueurs. I like our Baron de Crac, a
native of the land of white-liars and honey-tongued
gentlemen (Gascony). The genus craqueur is
common here : as it shoots out into a thousand
branches, shades, varieties, and modifications, ju-
dicial, political, poetical, and so on, it would be
Oct. S9. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
ite out of my proTinee to pursue farther the
icription of blagtiair-lsiad or Wamejr-land.
F.S. — Ezctue mj French-Eaglish.
PHII.AKBTB ChISI-EB, MsZATUIiBUS.
Fuia, Palais de I'lonitut.
(Vol. V
., p. 316.)
In answer to Z. I maj state that the first
attempt of this kind is attributed to Tatian.
Eusebiua, in his £ce. HUt. (quoted in Lardner's
Worka, vol. ii. p. 137. ed. 1788), says, he " com-
posed I knoir not what — harmony and collection
of the gospels, which he called Iia Tfeadinay."
Eusebiua himself composed a celebrated harmony,
of which, as of some others in the aixteenth and
two following centuries, there is a short account
in Michaelis's Ijilrodaction to the New Test^ trans-
1 the
early and middle ages are noticed in Home's
Introduct., vol. ii. p. 274. About the year 330,
Juvencus, a Spaniard, wrote the evangelical his-
tory in heroic Terse. Of far greater merit were
the four books of Augustine, De Comenn Qaatuor
Evangelurrxan. After a long interval, Ludolphus
the Saxon, a Carthusian monk, published a work
which passed through thirty editions in Germany,
besides being translated into French and Italian.
Some years ago I made out the following list of
Harmonies, Diatessarons, and SynopticaT tables,
published since the Reformation, which may in
some measure meet the wish of^o"^ correspondent.
It is probably incomplete. The dates are those
of the first editions.
was followed by Ammouius, whose 'kpiiavht an-
E;ared about 230 ; and in the next century by
usebius and St. Ambrose, the former entitling
his production nip) rni rir t-iorr/t^^ivr Sta^urda, the
latter Concordia Evangelii MattbiBi ft Lueee- Bat
by far the ablest of the ancient writings on thit
subject is the De Cometuu Evangelittanan of St.
Augustine. Many authors, such as Foiphyry, ia
his KvTct Xfurnarm' A^ai, had pointed with an UF
of triumph to the seeming discrepancies in the
Evangelic records as an argument subvernTe of
their claim to parimount authority (" Hoc enim
Solent quasi palmare suie vanitatis objicere, qood
ipsi Evangelistie inter seipsos disBentlant." — Lib. i.
c. 7.). In writing these objections St. Augustine
had to handle nearly all the difficulties which
offend t^e microscopic critics of ti^ present day.
His work was urged afresh upon the notice of t&s-
biblical scholar by Gerson, chancellto' of the Um-
versity of Paris, who died in 1429. The Mono-
tesiaroa, sea unum ex qaatuor Eoan^eliia of that
gifted writer will be found in Du Pin's edition rf
his Works, iv. 83. sq. Some additional inform-
ation respecUng Harmonies is supplied in Ebrard's
Wissenichaftliche Kritih der evangeluckeH 6e-
schichle, pp. 36. sq. : Francfurt a. M., 1842.
C. Habdwick.
St. Cathaiine's Hall, Cambridge.
Seller sajrs (^Sibl Herm., part ii. c 4. a. 4.) that
" The greater part of the works on the harmony rf"
the gospels are quite useless for our times, ■■
their authors mostly proceed on incorrect prio-
dples." He refers only to the chief of them,
namely :
Oslander, 1537.
Osian
J>n;e>
Chen
1549.
1593.
Lightfool.
Cmdock, 166S.
RithBTrfson, 1654,
Sandbagen, 1684.
Le Clerc, 1 699.
1702.
ard, 1707.
■Wilis
Blisching, 1T56.
Macknight, 1756.
Bertliogs, 1 767.
Gritsbw:li, 1T7G.
Priestley (Greek), 1777.
Prie,.ley{Eng.). 1780.
Newcome (Greek), 1778.
Newcome (Eng-.), 1802.
White, 1799.
Dg Wette, 1318.
Thompson, R, iSOB.
Chambers, 1813.
Tbompson, C, 1815.
Warner, 1819.
Carpenter, 1B35.
1549-72.
Chemniti, 1593.
Lightbol, 1644.
Van Til, 1687.
Lamy, 16S9.
Le Roux, 1699.
La Clerc, 1700.
Maj, 1707.
VoQ Canstein, 171)
Rus, 1727-30.
Hauber.
For other Harmonies,
Macknight, 1756.
Bengel. 1766.
BUsching, 1766.
Bertlings, 1767.
Prieitley, 1777.
Schutte,1779.
Stephan, 1779.
Griesbaeh, 1776-97.
White, 1799.
De Wette, 1818.
Mr. Home's Bihliog.
Hi
I. Heringa considers that the fM-
ers "have brought the four Evange-
barmomouB arrangement, namely :
I Slronck, 1:
I Townsend,
SCO.
Talian wrote his ESwrytAiM' Jii riv Turvdpur as
early as the year 170. It is no longer extant, but
we have some reason for believing that this Har-
mony had been compiled in an unfriendly spirit
(Theodoret, BareL Fabid., lib. i. c. 20.). Tatian
1784.
Bergen, 1804.
And especially as to the sufferings and resurrection
of Christ :
VoBs, 1701. I Michaelis (translated b;
Iten, 1743. Dueketi, 1827).
I Ciemer, 1795.
T. J. BucKTOK.
Bitmin^am.
416
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No, 209.
Ammonius, an Egyptian Christian nearly co-
temporary with Origen (third century), wrote a
Harmony of the four gospels, which is supposed to
be one of those still extant in the Bihlioth, jl/ar.
Patrwn. But whether the larger Harmony in
tom. ii. part 2., or the smaller in tom. iii., is the
genuine work is doubted. See a note to p. 97.
of Reid*s MosheinCs Ecclesiastical History^ 1 vol.
edition : London, Simms and Mclntyre, 1848.
Chris. Koberts.
^Bradford, Yorkshire.
SMALL WORDS AND LOW WORDS.
(Vol. ii., pp. 305. 349. 377. ; Vol. iii., p. 309.)
A passao^e in Churchill, and one in Lord John
'KusselFs Life of Moore^ have lately reminded me
of a former Note of mine on this subject. The
structure of Churchill's second couplet must surely
have been suggested by that of Pope, which formed
my original text :
" Conjunction, adverb, preposition, join
To add new vigour to the nervous line : —
In monosyllables his thunders roll, —
He, she, it, and, we, ye, they, fright the soul."
Censure on Mossop.
Moore, in his Journals, notes, on the other side
of the question, a conversation between Rogers,
"Crowe, and himself, "on the beauty of monosyl-
labic verses. * He jests at scars,' &c. ; the couplet,
* Sigh on my lip,' &c. ; * Give all thou canst,' &c.
&c., and many others, the most vigorous and
musical, perhaps, of any." (Lord John Kussell's
Moore^ vol. ii. p. 200.)
The frequency of monosyllabic lines in English
poetry will hardly be wondered at, however it
may be open to such criticisms as Pope's and
Churchill's, when it is noted that our language
contains, of monosyllables formed by the vowel a
alone, considerably more than 500 ; by the vowel
6, about 450 ; by the vowel i, nearly 400 ; by the
vowel o, rather more than 400 ; and by the vowel
tt, upwards of 260 ; a calculation entirely exclusive
of the large number of monosyllables formed by
diphthongs.
I hardly know whether the following " literary
folly " (as "D'lsraeli the Elder" would call it, see
Curiosities of Lit. sub tit.), suggested by dipping
into the above monosyllabical statistics, will be
thought worthy to occupy a column of " N. & Q."
However, it majr take its chance as a supple-
mentary Note, without farther preface, under the
name, for want of a better, of Univocalic verses :
The RussO' Turkish War.
A. Wars harm all ranks, all arts, all crafts appal :
At Mars* harsh blast arch, rampart, altar fall I
Ah ! hard as adamant, a braggart Czar
Arms vassal-swarms, and fans a fatal war !
Rampant at' that bad call, a Vandal-band
Harass, and harm, and ransack Wallach-land !
A Tartar phalanx Balkan*s scarp hath past,
And Allah's standard falls, alas ! at last.
The Fall of Eve,
E, Eve, Eden*s Empress, needs defended be ;
The Serpent greets her when she seeks the tree.
Serene she sees the speckled tempter creep ;
Gentle he seems — perversest schemer deep —
Yet endless pretexts, ever fresh, prefers,
Perverts her senses, revels when she errs.
Sneers when she weeps, regrets, repents she fell ;
Then, deep -revenged, reseeks the nether hell !
The Approach of Evening.
I. Idling I sit in this mild twilight dim,
Whilst birds, in wild swift vigils, circling skim.
Light winds in sighing sink, till, rising bright,
Night's Virgin Pilgrim swims in vivid light !
Incontrovertible Facts.
O. No monk too good to rob, or cog, or plot.
No fool so gross to bolt Scotch col lops hot.
From Donjon tops no Oroonoko rolls.
Logwood, not Lotos, floods Oporto's bowls.
Troops of old tosspots oft, to sot, consort.
Box tops, not bottoms, schoolboys flog for sport.
No cool monsoons blow soft on Oxford dons.
Orthodox, jog-trot, book>worm Solomons 1
Bold Ostrogoths of ghosts no horror show.
On London shop-'fronts no hop-blossoms grow.
To crocks of gold no dodo looks for food.
On soft cloth footstools no old fox doth brood.
Long-storm-tost sloops forlorn work on to port.
Rooks do not roost on spoons, nor woodcocks
snort.
Nor dog on snowdrop or on coltsfoot rolls.
Nor common frog concocts long protocols.
The same subject continued,
U, Dull, humdrum murmurs lull, but hubbub stuns.
Lucullus snuffs up musk, mundungus shuns.
Puss purrs, buds burst, bucks butt, luck turns up
trumps ;
But full cups, hurtful, spur up unjust thumps.
Although I am the veritable K. I. P. B. T. of
the former N"otes, I sign myself now, in accord-
ance with more recent custom,
Habbt Lebot Temple.
A CHAPTEB ON BIKGS.
(Vol. vii. passim,)
The Scriptures prove the use of rings in remote
antiquity. In Gen. xli., Joseph has conferred on
him the king's ring, an instance more ancient than
Prometheus, whom fables call the inventor of the
ring. Therefore let those who will hold, with Pliny
and his followers, that its use is more recent than
Homer. The Greeks seem to have derived the
custom of wearing it from the East^ and Italy
from the Greeks. J^ivenal and Persius refer to
' Oct, 29. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
417
rings which were worn only on birthdays. Cle-
mens Alexandrinus recommends a limit within
which the liberty of engraving upon them should
be restrained. He thinks we should not allow an
idol, a sword, a bow, or a cup, much less naked
human figures ; but a dove, a fish, or a ship in full
sail, or a lyre, an anchor, or fishermen. By the
dove he would denote the Holy Spirit; by the
fish, the dinner which Christ prepared for his dis-
ciples (John xxi.), or the feeding of thousands
(Luke IX.); by a ship, either the Church or human
life ; by a lyre, harmony ; by an anchor, constancv;
by fishermen, the apostles or the baptism of chil-
dren. It is a wonder he did not mention the sym-
bol of the name of Christ ( J ), the cross which is
found on ancient gems, and Noah*s ark.
Rings were worn upon the joints and fingers,
and hence Clement says a man should not wear a
ring upon the joint (in articulo)^ for this is what
women do, but upon the little finger, and at its
lowest part. He failed to observe the Roman
custom of wearing the ring upon the finger of the
left hand, which is nearest the heart, and which
we therefore term the ring-finorer. And Macro-
bius says, that when a ring fell from the little
finger of Avienus* right hand, those who were pre-
sent asked why he placed it upon the wrong hand
and finger, not on those which had been set apart
for this use. The reasons which are given for this
custom in Macrobius were often* laughed at by
H. Fabricius ab Aquapendente, viz. that it is stated
in anatomical works, that " a certain nerve which
rises nt the heart proceeds directly to that finger
of the left hand which is next the little finger," for
nothing of the sort, he said, existed in the human
body.
The vmz distinfjuished the free-born from the
servile, who, however, sometimes obtained the jus
annuli, or privilege of the ring. It was used as a
seal, a pledge, and a bond. Women, when be-
trothed, received rings ; and the virgin and martyr
Agnes, in Ambrose, says, " My Lord Jesus Christ
hath espoused me with his ring." Theosebius also,
in Photius, says to his wife, " I formerly gave to
thee the ring of union, now of temperance, to aid
thee in the seemly custody of ray house." He ad-
visedly speaks of that custody^ for the lady of the
house in Flautus says,
" Obsignate cellas, referte annulum ad me :
Ego hue transeo."
Wives generally used the same seals as their hus-
bands : thus Cicero (Ad Attic, xi. 9.) says, "Pom-
ponia, I believe, has the seals of what is sealed."
Sometimes, however, they used their own.
Touching the marriage ring, of what style and
material it was, and whether formerly, as now,
consecrated by prayers to God. Its pattern ap-
pears to have been one which has gone out of use,
viz. right hands joined, such as is often observed
on ancient coins. Tacitus (Hist, i. 11.) calls it
absolutely dextrasj right hands. Amon^us it was
called a faith (una fade, Comp. Eng. "Plight my
troth ")y and not without precedent, for on the
coins of Vitellius, &c. right hands thus joined bear
the motto Fides. An esteemed writer (NTider), in
his Formicarium, mentions a rustic vir^m who de-
sired to find a material ring as a token of her
espousal "in signum ChHstijens desponsationis^^
and found a ring of a white colour, like pure
silver, upon which two hands were engraved
where it was united. It was formerly customary
to bless a crown or a ring by prayers. The form
of consecration used by the priest is thus given in
ancient liturgies :
" Bene *b die Domine, Annulum istum et coronam
istam, ut sicut Annulus circundat digitum hominis, ct
corona caput, ita gratia Spiritus Sancti circundet spon-
sum et sponsam, ut videant filios et filias usque tertiam
et quartam generationem : qui collaudent nomen viven-
tis atque regnantis in secula seculorum. Amen.**
For the crown, see Is. Ixii. 1. (E. V. Ixi. 10.).
The words of Agnes above cited have reference to
giving the right hand and a pledge.
These particulars are from the Symbol. Epist,
Liber of Lauren tins Pignorius, Patar. 1628; where,
in Ep. I. and XIX., many other references are to
be found. B. H. C.
ANTICIPATORY USE OP THE CROSS. — RINGING BELLS
FOR THE DEAD.
(Vol. viii., pp. 130. 132.)
I trust that the following information may be
acceptable to you and the authors of two interest-
ing papers in "N. & Q." (Vol. viii., pp. 130-2.),
viz. "Anticipatory Use of the Cross," and "Cu-
rious Custom of rmging Bells for the Dead."
When encamped, in 1823 or 1824, near the town
(not the cantonment) of Muttra, on the river
Jumna, a place of celebrated sanctity as the scene
of the last incarnation of Vishnoo, the protective
deity or myth of the Hindoos, an Italian gentle-
man of most polished manners, speaking English
correctly and with fluency, was introduced to me.
He travelled under the name of Count Venua, and
was understood to be the eldest son of the then
Prime Minister of Sardinia. The Count explained
to me that his favourite pursuit was architecture,
and that he preferred buildings of antiquity. I
replied, that while breakfast was preparing I could
meet his wishes, and led him to a large Hindoo
edifice close by (or rather the remains), which a
Mogul emperor had partially destroyed and there-
by desecrated, the place having since been occa-
sionally used by the townspeople as a cattle-shed,
or for rubbish.
The Count, not deterred by heaps of cattle-dung,
paced the dimensions, gazed on the solidity of the
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NOTES AND QUERIEa
[Na 209.
stone masonry, approved of the construction and
shape of the arched roof, pointed out the absence
of all ornament excepting a simple moulding or
two as architectural lines, and then broke out
into'enthusiastic admiration. *'The most beautiful
building I the greatest wonder of the world I
Shame on the English government and English
gentlemen for secreting such a curiosity! Here
IS the cross ! the basilica carried out with more
correctness of order and symmetry than in Italy I
The early Christians must have built it ! I will
take measurements and drawings to lay before the
cardinals ! "
I was never more surprised, and assured the
Count that I was unacquamted with the cathedral
buildings of Europe, and I believed English gen-
tlemen generally to be as ignorant as myself I
could not but acknowledge that the local govern-
ments had, as it seemed to him, evinced but little
sympathy with Hindooism; and that whatever
might be European policy in respect to religion,
the East India Company mi^ht have participated
in the desire which prevails m Europe to develop
ancient customs, and the reasons of those customs.
It might be presumed that we should then have
contemplated this specimen of architecture with a
knowledge of its original purposes, and the history
of its events, had the Grovernor-General commu-
nicated his wish, and with due courtesy and dis-
interestedness invited the learned persons and
scholars at the collies of Muttra and Benares to
assist such inquiries. It is but little the English
now know of the Hindoo organisation, and the
little they do know is derived from books not
tested nor acknowledged by such learned persons.
I assisted Count Venua as far as I was able, for
I rejoiced at his intention to draw the minds of
the literati of Italy to the subject. Sad to sa^, the
Count was some time after killed by falling mt-o a
volcanic crater in the Eastern Isles !
I may here mention that I first saw the old
building in 1809, when a youthful assistant to the
secretary of a revenue commission. The party,
during the inclement month of September, resided
in one of the spacious houses at Muttra, which
pious Hindoos had in past times erected for the
use of pilgrims and the public The old temple
(or whatever it might have been) was cleaned out
for our accommodation during the heat of the day,
as it then was cooler than the house. The elder
civilians were men of ability, classical scholars,
and first-rate Asiatic linguists. They descanted
on the mythological events which renders "Brij,"
or the country around Muttra, so holy with the
Hindoos, but not one of them knew nor remarked
the " cross and basilica.**
In youth, the language assigned to flowers ap-
peared to me captivating and elegant^ as imparting
the finer feelings and sympathies of our nature.
In maturer age, and after the study of the history
of the customLS of mankind, symbols and emblems
seemed to me an universal language, which deli-
cately delineated the violent passions of our kind,
and transmitted from generation to generation
national predilections and pious emotions towards
the God of Creation. That mythology should so
generally be interpreted Theism, and that forms
or ceremonials of worship should be held to limit
and define belief in creed, may, in my appr^en-
sion, be partly traceable to the school-book Lam-
pri^re*s Clasncal Dictionary, You or your corre-
spondents may attribute it to other and truer
causes.
The rose, the thistle, the shamrock, the leek,
the lion, the unicorn, the harp, &c. are familiar
examples of nations! emblems. The ivy, the
holly, and the mistletoe are joined up with the
Christmas worship, though probably of Druidical
origin. The Assyrian sculptures present, under
the " Joronher,** or effulgence, a sacred tree, which
may assimilate with the toolsu and the P^P^ tree,
held in almost equal veneration by the Hindoos.
The winged lions and bulls with the heads of mei^
the angels and cherubim, recall to mind passages
of scriptural and pagan history. The sciences of
astronomy and mathematics have afforded myths
or symbols in the circle, the crescent, the bident,
the trident, the cross, &c.
The translators of the cuneiform inscrmtions
represent cruaifixion as the common punishment
for rebellion and treason. The Jews may have
imitated the Assyrians, as crucifixion may have
been adopted long before that of Christ and the
two thieves (Qy. robbers). The Mahomedans,
who have copied the Jews in many practices and
customs, executed gang robbers or daccorts by
suspending the criminals from a tree, their heads
and arms being tied to the branches, and then
ripping up the abdomen. I myself saw in Oude
an instance of several bodies. It may be inferred,
then, that the position of the culprits under exe-
cution was designated by crucifixion. The Hin-
doos mildly say that when their system of goveam-
ment existed in efficiency there was neither crime
nor punishment.
To the examples mentioned by vour corre-
spondent, I admit that the form of the cross, as
now received, may be derived from that of Christ,
discovered on Mount Calvary in 236 A.D. Con-
stantine, in 306 a.d., adopted it as a standard in
Labarum. Other nations have attached staves to
eagles, dragons, fish, &c. as standards ; and there-
fore, construing "Crux ansata'* literally, the en-
sign of Constantine might be formed by attaching
a staff to the Divine Glory represented in the
Egyptian paintings and Assyrian sculptures.
I should be glad to learn the precise shape of
the cross on the Temple of Serapis. If it be the
emblem of life or the Creative Power, then the
mythology of the Nile agrees with that of the
Oct. 29. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
419
Granges. If it be the symbol of life, or rather of
a future state after judgment, then the religious
tenets and creed of Muttra should be elucidated,
examined, and refuted by the advocates of con-
version and their itinerant agents. Moore's Hindoo
Pantheon (though the author had at Bombaj, as
a military officer, little opportunity of ascer taming
particulars of the doctrine) sufficiently treats,
imder the head of the " Krishna," the subject so as
to explain to the conversionists, that unless this
doctrine be openly refuted, the missionaries may
in truth be fighting their own shadow.
The basilica seems to have originally been the
architectural plan of the Roman Forum, or court
of justice. Ihe Christians may have converted
some of these edifices into churches ; otherwise
the first churches seem to have been in the form
of a long parallelogram, a central nave, and an
aisle on eacn side, the eastern end being rounded,
as the station of the bishop or presbyter. The
basilica, or cathedral, was probably not intro-
duced until the eighth century, or later.
I have not just now access to the works of Tod
and Maurice. The former, I doubt not, is coiTect
in respect to the Temple of Mundore, but I be-
lieve the latter is not so in regard to Benares.
The trident, like that of Neptune, prevails in the
province of Benares ; and when it, in appropriate
size, rises in the centre of large tanks, has a very
solemn effect. I, a great many years ago, visited
the chief temple of Benares, and do not recollect
that the cross was either noticed to me or by me.
This, I think, was the only occasion of observing
the forms of worship. There is no fixed service,
no presiding priest, no congregation. The people
come and go in succession. I then first saw the
bell, which, in size some twenty-five pounds weight,
is suspended within the interior. Each person, at
some period of his devotion, touched the tongue of
the bell as invocation or grace. The same pur-
pose is obtained by Hindoos, and particularly the
men of the fighting classes, previously to commen-
cing a cooked dinner, by winding a large shell,
which gives a louder sound than a horn. The
native boys however, on hearing it, exclaim in
doggrel rhyme, which I translate,
« The shell is blown,
And the devil is flown."
Fear seems so much the parent of superstition,
that I attribute this saying to the women, who, as
mothers, have usually a superstitious dread not only
of evil spirits, but also of the evil eye of mortals
towards their young ones. When, some twenty
years ago, I was told by a Kentish countryman
that the church bell was tolled to drive away evil
spirits from a departing soul, I supposed the man
to be profanely jocose ; but since then I have tra-
velled much in this country and on the Continent-,
and have seen enough to satisfy me that super-
stition prevails comparatively less in Asia than
in Europe ; and the pages of " N. & Q." abun-
dantly corroborate the opinion. H. N.
PHOTOOBAPHIC COBRB8POin>EIICE.
Stereoscopic Aisles, — I am concerned that my
definition and solution of stereoscopic angles (a
misnomer, for it should be apace) in " N. & Q.,*'
with subsequent illustrations, have not satisfied
Mb. Shadbolt, as I am thus obliged to once
more request room in your pages, and this time
for a rather long letter. When I asserted that
my method is the only correct one, it behoved me
to be prepared to prove it, which I am, and will
now do.
It seems that Mb. Shadbolt has not a know-
ledge of perspective, or, with a little reflection and
trifling pains in linear demonstration on paper, he
might have convinced himself of the accuracy of
my method. It were well, then, to inform Mb.
Shadbolt, that in perspective, planes parallel to
the plane of delineation (in this case, the glass at
back of camera) have no vanishing points; that
planes at right angles to plane of delineation have
but one ; and that planes oblique have but one
vanishing point, to the right or lefl, as it may be,
of the observer's eye. This premised, let the
subject be a wall 300 feet in length, with two
abutments of one foot in front and five feet in
projection, and each placed five feet from the
central point of the wall, which is to have a plinth,
at its base, and a stone coping at top. On a
pedestal four feet high, two feet wide, and six feet
long, exactly midway betwixt the abutments, let
an ass be placed, a boy astride him, a bag drawn
before the boy, who holds up a long stick in line
with the ass, &c., that is, facing the observer.
The right distance for the observer's place is 450
feet. If the cameras be placed two inches and a
half apart, on one line parallel to the wall, the
stereographs will be in true perspective for the iuH^
eyes, that is, all the planes at right angles to the
plane of delineation will have two vanishing
points, which, being merely two inches and a half
apart, will, in the stereoscope, flow easily into one
opposite the eye ; whilst the plinth, coping, and
all lines parallel to them, will be perfectly hori-
zontal ; and the two pictures would create in the
mind just such a conception as the same objects
would if seen by the eyes naturally. This would
be stereoscopic, true to nature, true to art, and,
I affirm, correct.
Now, let the same subject be treated by Profes-
sor Wheatstone's method, when the cameras would
be eighteen feet apart. Situated thus, if placed
on one line, and that parallel to the wall, the
extreme end at the right could not be seen bj
the camera at the left, and tsice versa; so that they
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[No. 209,
must radiate from tbe centre when tbe glass at
back of camera would be oblique to the wall, and
the plinth, coping, top and bottom of pedestal,
would have two vanishmcr points, at opposite sides
of the centre, or observer's eye ; both sides of the
ass, both the legs of boy, and two heads to the
drum would be visible ; whilst the two sides of
pedestals would have each a vanishing point,
serving for all lines parallel to them. But these
vanishing points would be so far apart that they
could not, in the stereoscope, flow into one : the
result would be, that the buttresses would be
wider at back than in front, as would also the
pedestal ; while the stick held by the boy would
appear like tivo sticks united in front. This would
be untrue to nature, false to art, preposterously
absurd, and I pronounce it to be altogether
erroneous.
This being the case 'with a long distance, so
must it be with shorter distances, modified in
exact proportion to the diminution of space
between the cameras, &c. For, let tlie object be
a piece of wood three feet long, four inches wide,
and six inches deep, with a small square piece
one inch, and six inches high, placed upright
exactly on a line from end to end of the three
feet (that is, one at each end) and midway between
the sides. Let this arrangement be placed across
another piece of wood three or four feet long,
which will thus be at right angles to the piece at
top. By my method all will be correct — true to
nature and to art, and perfectly stereoscopic:
whilst by the radial method (recommended by
Mr. Shadbolt), with two feet space for cameras,
there would be the top piece divided at the
farther end, where there would be two small up-
right pieces instead of one ; and this because
the two vanishing points could not, in stereo-
scope, flow into one : whilst the lower piece of
wood would have two vanishing points at oppo-
site sides. This, then, being untrue to nature,
untrue in art, in short, a most absurd mis-
representation, I pronounce to be utterly wrong.
I have made the space two feet between cameras
in order to show how ridiculous those pictures
might become where there is an absence of
taste, as, by such a person, two or ten feet are as
likely to be taken as any less offensively incorrect.
As regards range of vision, I apologise to Me.
Shadbolt for having misconceived his exact
meaning, and say that I perfectly agree with him.
With respect to the "trifling exaggeration"
I spoke of, allow me to explain. For the sake of
clearness, I denominate the angle formed from
the focal point of lens, and the glass at back of
camera, the angle of delineation ; the said glass,
the plane of delineation ; and the angle formed by
the stereograph to the eye, the stereoscopic angle.
It must be borne in mind that the stereoscopic
angle is that subtended by one stereograph and
the eye. I find by experiments that the angle
of delineation is very oflen larger than the stereo*
scopic angle, so that the apparent enlargement
spoken of by Mb. Shadbolt does not oflen exist ;
but if it did, as my vision (thou<rh excellent) is
not acute enough to discover the discrepancy,
I was content. I doubt not, however, under
such circumstances, Mr. Shadbolt would prefer
the deformities and errors proved to be present,
since he has admitted that he has such preference.
I have little doubt that, if desirable, the stereo-
scopic angle, and that of delineation, could bs
generally made to agree.
As to the means by which persons with two
eyes, or with only one eye, judge of distance, I
say not one word, that being irrelevant to this
subject. But that the axes of the eyes approxi-
mate when we view objects nearer and nearer
cannot be doubted, and I expressed no doubt;
and it appears to me very probable that on this
fact Mb. Shadbolt founds his conclusion that
the cameras should radiate. This, however, ought
not to be done for the reasons I have assigned.
It will not do to treat the cameras as two eyes^
and make them radiate because our eyes do ; for
it must be remembered that light entering the
eyes is received on curved — whilst when it enters
the cameras it falls on flat surfaces, occasioning
very different results. And if this be maturely
considered by Mr. Shadbolt, I believe his
opinion will be greatly altered.
As to the model-like appearance, I cannot yet
understand exactly why it should exist; but of
this I am certain, the eyes naturally do not per-
ceive at one view three sides of a cake (that is,
two sides and the front), nor two heads to a drum,
nor any other like absurdity ; so that I perceive
no analogy between this model-like appearance
and natural vision, as stated to be the case by Mb.
Shadbolt.
To confirm, practically, the truth of my illustra-
tive proofs, I will send you next week some glass
stereographs, to be placed at Mb. Shadbolt's
disposal, if he likes, and you will be so kind as to
take charge of them. T. L. Mebbitt.
Maidstone.
BerefeUarii (Vol. vii., p. 207.). — John Jebb
mentions the herefeUarii as a distinct kind of
mongrel dependants or half-ecclesiastics of the
Middle Ages, dirty, shabby, ill-washed attendants,
whose ragged clothes were a shame to the better
sort of functionaries. He gave excellent and just
reasons for his opinion, and a very probable con-
struction of the sense of the word. But the
etymon he proposes is rather unsatisfactory. An-
glo-Saxonism is a very good thing ; simplicity and
common sense are very good things too. May not
Oct. 29. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
421
htrefeUarita, the dirtv ragamuffin with tattered
clotLei, be good monkish l^atia for bare-fell (i.e.
imrt'tUn), or rather lare-ftUowf the most natural
metBinorphosiB imaginable. Bere ia the old or-
thoepy of bare ; and every one knows tliat in Lon-
don (east) a fellow naturally becomes a fellor.
P.S.— Excuse my French -English.
Fhilabete Cuasles, Mazarinffius.
Paris, Palais de I'lnstitut.
" To htovi ouTselnea diseased," SfC. (Vol. viii.,
p. 219.).—
" To knoir ourselves diseased is half our cure."
Olovet at Fairs (Vol. viii., p. 136.). — As an
emblem of power and an acknowledgment of
goodness, " Saul set u[i a hand " after hia victory
over the Amalekites, 1 Sam. xv. 12., (Taylor's
Eebretn Concordance, in voce m'.), 2 Sani. xviii.
. 18., Isaiah Ivi. 5. The Fhcenician monuments
are said to have had sculptured an them an arm
and hand held up, with an inscription graven
thereon. (See Gesenius and Lee.) If, us stated
by your correspondents in the article referred to,
the glove at fairs " denotes protection," and in-
dicates "that parlies frequenting the fair
!mpt from '" "" '' ' '---- - '-
9 at least a remarkable
coincidence. The Fh<Enician3 were the earliest
merchants to the west of England that we have
any account of: con any connexion be traced
historically between the Phornician traffic and the
modern practice of setting up a band, or glove, at
fkirs ? I well remember the feelings of awe and
wonder with which I gazed when token in child-
hood to see "the glove brought in" and placed
over the guildhall of my native city (Ejteter) at
the commencement of "Lammas Fair." Has the
glove been associated with this fair from its com-
mencement ? and if not, how far back can its use
be traced ? The history of the fair is briefly this :
it existed before the rforman Conquest, and was
a great mart of business ; the tolls had belonged
to the corporation, but King John took one-half,
and gave them to the priory of St. Nicholas.
Henry VHL sold, the fair wiUi the priory; and
anno second and third of Philip and Mary it was
made over to the corporation, who have ever since
been lords of the fair. (Izacke's ilfemnriab, p. 19.;
Oliver's History of Exeter, pp. 83. 1S8., &c.)
J. W. Thomas.
Dewsbury.
I may add that at Barnstaple, North Devon,
the evening previous to the proclamation of the
fair, a large glove, decked with dablias, is pro-
truded on a pole from a wiudow of the Quay Hall,
remains during the fair, and is removed at its
termination. Alay not the outstretched glove
signify the consent of the authorities to the com-
mencement and continuance of the festivities, &c.,
and its withdrawal a hint for their cessation ?
I may add also that on the morning of pro-
claiming the fair, the mayor and corporation
meet their friends in the council chamber, and
partake of spiced toast and ale. Dbofssiao.
"An"be/ore "u" long fVol- viii., p.244.).—
The custom of writing an before ti long must have
arisen and become established when u had its
primitive and vowel sound, nearlv resembling that
of our 00, a sound which it still has in several
languages, but seems to have lost in ours. The
use of an before u long was Wen proper; habit and
precedent will account for its retention by manr,
after the reason for it has ceased, and when its
use has become improper. But although the
custom is thus accounted for, there exists no
satisfactory reason for its continuance; and I an
sorry to learn from your correspondent that It is
"increasingly prevailing," J. W. Thomas.
Dewsbury.
" The Good Old Cavse" (Vol. viil., p. 44.). —
D'Israeli, in Quarrels of Authors, under the. head
of "Martin Mar- Prelate," has the following re-
marks on the origin and use of the expression,
" The Good Old Cause : "
" It is remarkable that Udall repeatedly employed
that eipression, which Algernon Sidney left as his last
legary to the people, when be told them tie was about
to die for ' thai Old Caujc, in which 1 was from my
yauth engsged.' Udali perpetually insisted on ' Tht
Cause.' This was a term which served at least for a
watch-word: it rallied the scattered members of the
republican party. The precision of the eipression
might have been dlFlieult to ascertain; and, perhaps,
remole an origin as in the relga of Elizabeth ; and
suspect it may still be freshened up and varnished over
for any present occasion."
Hbnbt H. Bsbbn.
St. Lucia.
The following curious parngraph in the Foit
Soy, June 3-5, 1714, seems to nave been con-
nected with the Jacobites :
" There are lately arriyed here the Dublin Pleoipo's.
All persons that haie any busint
Old Cause, let 'em repair ti
House at Charing Cross, where Ihey may meet witli
the said Plenlpo's every day of the week eicepl
Sundays, and every evening of those days they are tt
be spoke with at the Klt-Cat Club."
I Man's Coflee
E. G. Ballabi
Jeroboam of Claret, ^e. (Vol. vii., p. 528.). —
ancient building in the town, which Is a magnunf anything more than a bottle larger
422
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 209.
than those o( the ordinary size, and containing
about two quarts; or a Jeroboam other than a
wittjr conceit applied to the old measure Joram or
Jorum, by some profane wine^bibber f H. C. K.
Humbug (Vol. vii., p. 631.). — The real signi-
fication of the word humbug appears to me to lie
in the following derivation of it. Among the
many issues of base coin which from time to time
were made in Ireland, there was none to be com-
pared in worthlessness to that made by James II.
from the Dublin Mint : it was composed of any-
thing on which he could lay his hands, such as
lead, pewter, copper, and brass, and so low was its
intrinsic value, that twenty shillings of it was only
worth twopence sterling. William III., a few
days after the Battle of the Boyne, ordered that
the crown piece and half-crown should be taken
as one penny and one halfpenny respectively.
The soft mixed metal of which that worthless
coining was composed, was known among the
Irish as Uim bog, pronounced Oom-bug, t. e. soft
copper, t. e, worthless money ; and in the course
of their dealings the modem use of the word
humbug took its rise, as in the phrases ^ that's a
piece of uimbog (humbug)," " don*t think to pass
offjouT uimbug on me." Hence the word humbug
came to be applied to anything that had a specious
appearance, but which was in reality spurious. It
is curious to note that the very opposite of hum^
bug, i. e. false metal, is the word sterling, which is
also taken from a term applied to the true coinage
of the realm, as^riing coin, sterling tmih, sterling
worth, &c. Fbas. Cbosslst.
''Could we with ink,'' ^c. (Vol. viii., pp. 127.
180.). — If Rabbi May ir Ben Isaac is the bona
fide author of the lines in question, or the sub-
stance of them, then the author of the Koran has
been indebted to him for the following passage :
** If the sea were ink, to write tiie words of my Lord,
verily the sea would fail before the words of my Lord
would fail ; although we added another sea unto it as
a farther supply.** — At Korcu^ chap, zviii., entitled
** The Cave,'* translated by Sale.
The question is. Did Rabbi Mayir Ben Isaac,
author of the Chaldee ode sung in every syna-
^gue on the day of Pentecost, flourish before or
since the Mohamedan era ? J. W. Thomas.
Dewsbury.
''Hurrah!'' (Vol. viii., pp. 20. 277. 323.). —It
would almost seem that we are never to hear the
last of "Hurrah! and other war-cries." Your
correspondents T. F. and Sis J. Emekson Ten-
NENT appear to me to have made the nearest ap-
proach to a satisfactory solution of the difficulty ;
a step farther and the goal is won — the object of
inquiry is found. I suppose it will be admitted
that the language which supplies the meaning of a
word has the fiurest claim to be considered its
parent language. What, then, is the meaning of
" Hurrah, and in what language ? As a reply to
this Query, allow me to quote a writer in BUuk"
wood's Magazine, April 1843, p. 477. :
'<' Hurrah !* means itrike in the Tartar langoi^."
— Note to art. «* Amulet Bek."
So then, according to this respectable authority,
the end of our shouts and war-cries is, that we
have " caught a Tartar ! "
Again, in Blackwood, 1849, vol. i. p. 673., we
read:
** He opened a window and cried ' Hourra 1 * At
the signal, a hundred soldiers crowded into the house.
Mastering his fury, the Czar ordered the young officer
to be taken to prison." — Art ** Romance of Russian
History."
Thus, in describing the '' awful pause ** on the
night preceding the Russian attack on Ismail, then
in possession of the Turks, Lord Byron says :
«* A nroment — and all will be life again !
The march ! the charge I the shouts of either fudi 1
Hurra ! and Allah ! and — one instant more —
The death-cry drowning in the battle's roar.**
Works, p. 684. col. 2.
J. W. Thomas.
Dewsbury.
" Qui facitper alium facit per se " (VoL viii.,
p. 231.). — '^ Qui facit per alium, est perinde ac
si faciat per seipsum," is one of the maxims of
Boniface VIII. (Sexti Decret, lib. v. tit. 12., de
Reg. Jur. c. 72. ; Bohm. Corp, Jur, can., torn. iL
col. 1040.), derived, according t-o the glossary
(vid. in Decret,, ed. fd.. Par. 1612), from the
maxim of Paulus (D^est, lib. 1. tit 17., de Div.
R^. Jur. 1. 180.), '* Quod jussu alterius solvitur,
pro eo est quasi ipsi solutam esset.** £. M.
Tsar (VoL viii., pp. 150. 226.) — Is not tsar
rather cognate with the Heb. *^ (Bar), a leader,
commander, or prince ? This root is to be found
in many other languages, as Arabic, Persian ; Latin
serrtK Gesenius gives the meaning of the word
nnb (Sarah), to place in a row, to set in order ;
to be leader, commander, prince. If tsar have thb
origin, it will be synonymous with imperator, em-
peror. B. H. C
Scrape (VoL viii., p. 292.). — I do not know
when this word besan to be used in thb sense.
Shakspeare says "Ay, there's the rub:" an ana-
logous phrase, which may throw light upon the
one " to get into a scrape. Both are metaphors,
derived from the unpleasant sensations produced
by rubbing or grazing the skin. The word pinch
is, on the same principle, used for difficulty ; and
the Lat. fo<t&ii2ah'o=trouble, and its synonym in
Gr., ^Xc^is, have a similar origin and application.
Oct. 29. 1853.]
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423
" To get into • BCmpe " is, Uierefore, to get into
trouble. S. H. G.
!e (VoL Tiii., p. 202.).—
" Among the artida consumed at Mr. RyUnd'i at
Binninghsm, wu tfae bod; of the lite Mr. Baslerville,
who by hi) vill ordered (bat he sbould be buried in bis
own house, and he iru accoidingi; interred there. A
Mone cloKt wat erected In it, where he wu depotited
in a standing posture. The house was afterwards sold
with this express condition, that it thould remain
there." — Account of the Birmingbam riots in 1T91,
irom the Uabnital Magazine, vol. iii., where it ia said
the houEe was burned on Friday aAenioon, July 15.'
B. H. C.
A great-uncte of mine owned the Baskerville
property (be, BaBkerville, was buried in his own
g'ounda) at tlio time of tlie Churcli itnd King
lot in 1791; but it waa the recent growth of tbe
town that occasioned tbe diaiuterment. R.
Sheriffi of Olamorgaiahire (Vol. iii., p. 186. ;
Vol. Tiii., p. 353.). — Your correspondent Tbwabb
Ib certainly wrong in ascribing to the Rev. H, H.
Knight the list of Glamorganshire sheriffs in-
auired for bj Eduusd W. It is tiue this gen-
eman printed a lilt of them many years after the
former, which was privately printed by the Bev.
J. M. Traherne, and subsequently published a
Cardiff Ouide, by Mr. Bird of Cardifl'. I bave
seen both copies, and the latter may doubtless
yet be seen upon application to Mr. Bird. I have
also seen the more recent ibt by my learned friend
ijje rector of Neath. Bibuothecab. CuBTnAH.
Si/Jige FamUy — tsb voce Carr Pedigree (Vol.
TiLiP-SdB. ; Vol. viii., p. 327.).— Has the atale-
ment made by Guuelhus, m to the origin of the
name of Synge, ever appeared in print before P
Aad if so, where ? I bave long been curious to
identify the individual whose name underwent
8ucb a singular change, and to ascertain if be
really was a chantry priest as reported. Was he
George Sjnge, the grandfather of George Synge,
BiehopofCloyne,barn 15»4? Of what family was
Mary Paget, wife oC <Jie ReT. Richard Synge,
preacher at tbe Savoy in 1715? The name appears
these matters is essential in a publication like
" N. & Q.," he will excuse me for setting him
right. The name of tbe author of die poem of
" Woman"wM not Eton Barrett, bat Eat«n Stan-
nard Barrett. He was connected with the press
in London. Your correspondent is correct in
stating that the Barretts were from Cork. Eaton
Stannard Barrett was a man of considerable ability.
He published several works anonymously, all of
wbicD acquired celebrity ; but I believe the poem
of " Woman," published by Mr. Colburn, was the
only work to which he attached his name. He
was the author of the well-known political satire
called AU the TalenU; of tlie mock romance of
TTie Heroine, in which the absurdities of a school
of Rction, at that time in high favour, are happily
ridiculed ; and of a novel which had great success
in its day, and is still to be found in some of the
circulating libraries, called Six Weeks at Long't.
Eaton Stannard Barrett died manyyears ago in the
Eritne of his life and powers. His brother, Richard
arrett, is still living, and resides in the neigh-
bourhood of Dublin. He is tbe author of some
controversial and political pamphlets, of which
the principal were Iriik Prieitt, and Tht Bible not
a Dangerous Book. He afterwards conducted
The PUoi newspaper, establisbed for the support
of Mr. O'Connell's policy in Ireland, and was one
of tbe persons who suffered imprisonment with
Mr. O'Connell, and who were designated in the
Irish papers as the " martyrs." Roubrt Bsix.
Liile Family (Vol. vii., p. 365. et ante). — R.
II. C. will find in Berry's Hampihire Geneaiogiei
(I vol. folio, London, 1833) a pedigree of the
Liales be alludes to as being buried at Thruxton,
Hampshire. The shield. Lisle impaling Courte-
nay, on the altar tomb there would appear to be-
long to Sir John Lisle, Kt., who married Joan,
daughter of John Cour^ay, Earl of Exeter.
AbTHCB PiOBT.
personally o
it Bridgenorlh, writing them-
Sing. Tbe punning motto of this fiunily is
* ■ g : " Celestia oanimus."
Abthdb Paobt.
74. Geoi^ St, Manchester.
worth noticing : " Celestia
Zinet on Woman (yoLvii'i^ p. 350.). — Tonr
correspondent F. W. J. has occasioned me some
perplexity in tracing the quotation which he refers
to Vol. viii,, p. 204., but which is really to be
found at p. 292. He appears to have fallen into
this error by mistaking the number on the right
hand for the paging on the left. As accuracy in
SKUttXbmtma.
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Lord Halifax and Mrs. Catherine. Barton, by Proressor
De Morgan ...... 429
Dr. Parr on Milton - - - - - 433
FartsofMSS., by Jolin Macray - - - - 434
'William Blake 435
Folk Lorb : — Legends of tlie Coimty Clare — The
Seven Whisperers ..... 436
Italian.Englisn, German-English, and the Refugee Style,
by Fhilar^te Chasles ..... 436
Shakspeare Correspondence, by Thos. Keightley, &c. - 437
Minor Notes : — Decomposed Cloth — First and Last
— Cucumber Time — MS. Sermons of the Eighteenth
Century — Bos well's " Johnson " — Stage Coaches —
Antecedents — The Letter X — A Crow>bar - • 43S
Queries : —
Minor Queries : — Bishop Grehan — Doxology —
A rrow.mark— Gabriel Poyntz — Queen Elizabeth's
and Queen Anne's Motto, " Semper eadem " — Bees
— Nelly O'Brien and Kitty Fisher — "Homo unius
iibri" — "Now the fierce bear," &c. — Prejudice
against Holy Confirmation — Epigram on MacAdam
— Jane Scrimshaw —The Word " Qtiadrille " — The
Hungarians in Paules — Ferns Wanted — Craton the
Philosopher — The Solar Annual Eclipse in the Year
1*263 — D'lsraeli: how spelt ? — Richard Oswald —
Cromwell's Descendants — Letter of Archbishop
Curwen to Archbishop Parker - - - - 440
JtfiNOR Queries with Answers: — Margaret Patten —
Etymology of " Coin" — Inscription at Aylesbury —
•" Guardian Angels, now protect me," &c. — K. C. B.'«
— Danish and Swedish Ballads — Etymology of
" Conger " — *' Si vis me flere, dolendum est primum
tibi"
Replies : —
Medal and Relic of Mary Queen of Scots, by John
Evans, &c. .._..-
Early Use of Tin Derivation of the Name of Britain -
Pictorial Editions of the Book of Common Prayer
Yew-Trees in Churchyards, by Fras. Crossley, &c.
'Osborn Family - - - - - .
Inscriptions on Bells, by W. Sparrow Simpson and
J. L. Sisson ,.-..-
Ladies* Arms borne in a Lozenge ...
The Myrtle Bee, by C. Brown > - . -
Captain John Davis, by Bolton Corney - - -
Thotogkaphic Correspondence : — Clouds in Photo-
graphs — " The Stereoscope considered in relation to
the Philosophy of Binocular Vision " — MuUer's
Processes — Positives on Glass ... - 451
Replies to Minor Queries: — Peculiar Ornament in
Crosthwaite Church — Nursery Rhymes — Milton's
Widow— Watch-paper Inscriptions—Poetical Tavern ]
Signs— Parish Clerks* Company—" Elijah's Mantle'*
Histories of Literature — Birthplace of General
jVionk — Books chained to Desks in Churches, &c. - 452
Miscellaneous : —
Notes on Books, &c.
Books and Odd Volumes wanted -
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisements ...
442
444
445
445
447
448
448
448
450
450
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Vol. Vm. — No. 210.
LORD HALIFAX AND MBS. CATUEBINE BARTON.
Those who have written on the life of New-
ton have touched with the utmost reserve upon
the connexion which existed between his half-
niece Catherine Barton, and his friend Charles
Montage, who died Earl of Halifax. Thej seem
as if they were afraid that, by going fairly into
the matter, they should find something they
would rather not tell. The consequence is, that
when a writer at home or abroad, Voltaire or
another, hints with a sneer that a pretty niece
had more to do with Newton^s appointment to
the Mint than the theory of gravitation, those
who would like to know as much as can be
known of the whole truth find nothing in any
attainable biography except either total silence
or a very awkward and hesitating account of half
something.
On looking again into the matter, the juxta-
position of all the circumstances induced in my
mind a strong suspicion that Mrs. C. Barton was
privately married to Lord Halifax, probably before
his elevation to the peerage, and that the marriage
was no very great secret among their friends. As
yet I can but say that the hypothesis of a private
marriage is, to me, the most probable of those
among which a choice must be made : farther in-
formation may be obtained by publication of the
case in "N. & Q.,** the most appropriate place of
deposit for the provisional result of unfinished in-
quiries.
Charles Montague (bom April, 1661, died May
19, 1715) made acquaintance with Newton when
both were at Trinity College in 1680 and 1681.
Newton was nineteen years older than Montague,
and had been twelve years Lucasian professor.
At the beginning of their friendship, the Lucasian
professor must be called the patron of the young
undergraduate, who was looking for a fellowship
with the intention of taking orders, a design which
he did not find sufficient encouragement to
abandon until after he had sat in the Convention.
By 1690, the rising politician had become the
p«tron of the author of the Principia, who in t^at
NOTES AND QUERIESi
[No. 210l
jetr or tlie next Tueaine an aspirttut for public
employment. The iriendahip of Newton uid
Moulague lasted until the death of the latter,
interrupted only bj a cooineaa (on Newton's side
at leut) in 1691, ari«ing out of a suspicion in
Newton's mind that Montague wu not sincere in
hia intentions towards his Iriend.
Catherine Barton (born 1680, died 1739} naa
the daughter of Robert Barton and Newton's
balf-sister, Hannah Smith (Bailj's Flanuteed, Sup-
j){«ineitf,p.750.). Lieut.-Col.Barton, usually called
her husband, was her brother. Tbe p^greea
Sublished by Turner recognise this fact : Swift
stinctly states it, and Biguid proves it in various
ways in letters to Baity, which lately passed
through mjF hands on their way to the Observatory
at GreenwicL The mistake ought never to have
been made, for Jfr«. C, Barton (as she was usually
denominated) must, according ID usage, have been
reputed single so long as her Christian name was
introduced.
Hrs. C. Barton married Mr. Conduitt, then or
afterwards Newlon's assiatant, and his successor :
this marrii^e probably took place in 1718, the
jear in which Newton introduced Conduitt into
tbe Royal Society. AmoDg tbe Tumor memo-
rials of Newton, now in possession of the Royal
Society, is a watch having the inscription "Mrs. C.
Conduitt to Sir Isaac Newton, January, 1706."
This (Jaie cannot be correct, for Sviil in 1710,
Halifax in 1712, Flamateed in 1715, and Monmort
in 1716, call her Barton : alt but Flamateed were
Any one who looks
theii
irlption will s
i that it
13 old as the
leither ornamented nor placed . ..
shield or other envelope, while the case is beauti-
folly chased, and has an elaborate design, repre-
■enting Fame and Britannia examining tbe por-
tnut of Newton, Moreover, "Mrs. Conduilt"
would nev» have described herself as "Mrs. C.
Conduitt."
Montague was not, so far as nsual accounts
state, what even in our day would be called a
Lbertine. He married the Countess of Manchester
(the widow of a relative) before his entry into
public life, and was deeply occupied in party
gli tics and fiscal administration. I am told that
ivenant impugns his morals : this may be the
exception which proves the rule ; some of the
lampoons directed against the Whig minister are
preserved, and these do not attack his
character i '
can learn.
r under allusion, e
All the cotemporarj evidence yet adduced as
to the relation between Lord Halifax and Cathe-
rine Barton, is contained in one sentence in the
Zi/e of the former, two codicils of his will, and
tne aJlaaiiin of Flamsteed's. The Life, with tbe
will attached, was appended to two different pub-
"- ' s of the wcika of Ealiikc, ia ITlfl and
1716. The pasBsige from the Zi/e is as folhnn
(p. 195.):
" I am likeiriie to account for snatber Omiamon in
the Coune of this HiMorj, which is that of the Dnth
of tbe Lord Halijax't Lady ; upon whoic Dcceaw his
Lord^ip took a Resolution of livinff single t&ence
forward, and cast his E;e upon the Widow of one
Colonal Barton, and Ncice to the fnmous Sir /noe
Ntwlan, to be Su per- inten dent of his domestick ASuTf.
But as this Lady wga young, bcsutirul, and gay, t»
tboae that wen given to censure, pass'd a Judgmeat
upon ha wbieb the no Vfaya memcd, (ince ihe wa*i
Woman of itrict Honour and Virtue ; and tho' sba
migbt be agreeable to bii Lardahip in every Particular,
tbni noble Peer's Complaisance to her. proceeded
wholly ftom the great Estcpm he had for her Wit and
most exquisite Understanding, as will appear from wbtt
relates to her in his Will at the Cloae of tbcs* Ha-
This sentence is an inaertion (thej
as far back as p. 64.)' It speaks of Mrs. C. Barton
as if she were dead : and it is worthy of note that
this lady, who lived to communicate to Fontenelle
materials for his Hoge of Newton, had excellent
opportunity, had it pleased her, to have contrtt^
dieted or varied any part of the account given bj
Halifax's biographer ; and this without appearing.
The actus! communication made to Fontenelle hj
her husband, Mr. Conduitt, is in existence, and was
printed by Mr. Tumor ; it contains no aUosion
to the subject. Farther, It appears by the bio-
grapher's account that she had passed as a widow,
which is not to be wondered at : the Colmul
Barton who was the son of circumstances, must
have been created before her brother (who died
in 1711) attained such rank, perhaps before he
entered the army at all.
Tbe will gives very different evidence from that
far which it is subptsnaed : it is dated April 10^
1706. In the first codicil (dated April 12, 1706)
Lord Halifax leaves Mrs. Barton all his jeweu
and SOQOl. " as a small token," he says, " of the
great love and affection I have long bad for her."
In B second codicil (dated February 1, 1712) the
first codicil is revoked, and the bequest ta aug-
mented to 5000'., the rangership, lodg^ and
household furniture of Busuey Park, and the
manor of Apscoort, for her life. These are given,
B^s Lord Halifax, *' as a token of the sincere love,
affection, and esteem, I have long had for her
person, snd as a emoU recompense &t the pleasure
and happiness I have bad in her conversation."
In this same codicil "Mrs. Catherine Barton" is
described as Newton's niei», and 100^ is leit to.
Newton 'I OS a mark of the great honour and
esteem I have for so great a man." Tbe con-
cluding sentence of the codicil is as follows :
" And I strictly charge and command my executor
to give all aid, help, and assistance to her in posseasing
and eqjoyiog what I have benby gives k«r ; and iJto
Not. 5. 1863.]
NOTES AND QUEBXBSw
4S1
in doiojiif any aet or acta necessary to transfer to ber an
annuity of two hundred pounds per etnnum, purchased
in Sir Isaac Newton's name» which I hold for her in
trust, as appears by a declaration of trust in that
behalf."
This codicil immediately became the subject
of remark, and the terms of it seem to have
been understood as they would be now. Flam-
steedf writing in July, 1715 (Halifax died in May),
says:
** If common fame be true, be died worth 1 50^000/. ;
out of which he gave Mrs. Barton, Sir I. Newton's
niece* for her exedkni conversation [the Italics are
Baily's, the original, I suppose^ underlined], a curious
house, 50001 with lands, jewels, plate, money, and
household furniture, to the value of 20,000^ or more."
I pay no attention to the statement that {Biogr,
Srtt, Montague, note BB.) Lord Halifax was dis-
appointed in a second marriage. It amounts only
to this, that Lord Shaftsbury, having a certain
lad^ in his heart and in his eye, was afraid he had
a rival, and described the person talked of in terms
-which make it pretty certain that Halifax was
intended. But it by no means follows that be-
cause a certain person is '^ talked or* for a lady,
and a lover put in fear by the rumour, the person
is really a rival : and not even a biographer would
have shown himself so unfit for a novelist as to
have drawn such a conclusion, unless he had been
biassed by the wbh to show that Halifax was at-
tached to another than Mrsv Barton.
It must of course be supposed that the intro-
duction of Montague to Newton^s niece was a
consequence of his acquaintance with Newton, and
took place in or near 1696, when Newton came to
London, where his niece soon began to reside with
him. And since, in 1706, the connexion, what-
ever it was, bad been of long standing, we may
infer that it had probably commenced in 1700.
The case is then as follows. Montague received
into his house, as ^ superintendent of his domestic
affairs" after the death of his wife, the niece of
his old and revered friend Newton, a conspicuous
officer of the crown, a member of Parliament, and
otherwise one of the most famous men living. This
niece had been partly educated by Newton ; she had
lived in his house ; we know of no other protector
that she could have had, in London ; and the sup-
position that she left any roof except Newton's to
take shelter under that of Montague, would be
purely gratuitous. She was unmarried, beautiful,
and gay ; and probably not so much as, certainly
not much more than, twenty years old. A hand-
some annuity was bought for her in Newton's
imme, and held in trust by Halifax : if it had been
bought hf Newton, Conduitt would have mentioned
it in his list of the benefactions which Newton's
relatives received from him, especially after the
publicity which it had obtained from Halifax's will.
That she did not tenant the housekeeper's room
while the friends of Halifax were round has tabl%
may be inferred from the epigrams^ poor as tltey
are, which were made in her honour as a celebratea-
beauty and wit, in a collection of verses (reprinted
in Dryden's Miscellanies) on the best known toastft
of the day. Halifax bequeathed her a proviiioii;
which might have suited his widow, in terms whioll
must have been intended to show that she had
been either his wife or his mistress ; while ia the
same document he brought prominently forward
his respect for Newton, tibe fact of her beme
Newton's niece, and the annuity which he haS
bought for her in Newton's name. An nncon-
tradicted paragraph in the life of Halifax, pub*
Ibhed immediately after the will, and evidently
not intended to bring forward any fact not per»»
fectly well known, records her residence in the
house of that nobleman and the consequent ru-
mours concerning her character, affirms that the
was a virtuous woman, and refers to the wilt to
prove it : though the will denies it in the plainest
English, on any supposition except that of a pri«»
vate marriage. Finally, the lady married a re*
spectable man after the death of Lord Halifax,
and with him lived in the house of her illustrionsi
uncle.
That she was either the wife or the mistress of
Halifax, I take to be established ; it is the natural
conclusion from the facts above stated, all made
Eublic during her life, all left uncontradicted 1:^
erself, by her husband, by her daughter, by Lord
Lymington her son-in-law, and by the uncle who
had stood to her in the place of a father. It is.
impossible that Newton could have been ignorant
that his niece was living in Montague's houses
enjoyed an annuitv bought in his own name, and
was regarded by the world as the mistress of his
friend and political patron. The language of the
codicil shows that, be the nature of the connexion
what it might, Halifax meant to tell the world
that it might be proclaimed in all its relation to
the name of Newton. To those who cannot,
under all the circumstances, believe the oonnexioa
to have been what is called platonic, the proba*
bility that there was a private marriage is pre-
cisely the probability that Newton would not have
sanctioned the dishonour of his own niece : and
even if the connexion were only that of friendsh^
Newton must have sanctioned the appearance ami
the forms of a dishonourable intimacy : the oo*
habitation, the settlement, and the defiance of
opinion. Now there is no reason to suppose of
Newton that he would be a party to either pro*
ceeding, which would not apply as well to any
man then alive : to Locke, for instance. Looking'
at the morals of the day, we are hj no nieans ju»* '
tified in throwing off* at once, with dis^st, tiie
bare idea of the possibility of a distinguished
philosopher consenting to an illicit intercoiirse«
between his finend and his niece : we axe bopad^
432
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 2ia
in discussing probabilities, to distinguish 1850 from
1700. But, even putting out of view the puritj
of Newton's private life, and of the lives of his
most intimate friends, there is that in the weaker
part of his character which is of itself almost con-
clusive. Right or wrong, Newton never faced
opinion. As soon as he found that publication
involved opposition, from that time forward he
published only with the utmost reluctance, and
under the strongest persuasions ; except when,
as in the case of some of his theological writing,
he confided the manuscript to a friend, to be
anonymously published abroad. The Principia
was extorted from him by the Royal Society ; the
firstpublication on fluxions was under the name
of Wallis ; the Optics were delayed until the
death of Hooke ; the first appearance against
Leibnitz was anonymous ; the second originated
in a hint from the King. This morbid fear, which
is often represented as modesty, would have made
him, had he acted a part with regard to his niece
which he could not avow, conduct it with the
utmost reserve. The philosopher who would
have let the theory of gravitation die in silence
rather than encounter the opposition which a dis-
covery almost always creates, would not have
allowed his name to be connected with the an-
nuity which was the price of his niece's honour,
or which carried all the appearance of it, even
supposing him base enough to have connived at
the purchase. And in such a case, Halifax would
have taken care to respect the secrecy which he
would have known to have been essential to New-
ton's comfort : he would not have published to the
world that his mistress was Newton's niece, and
that Newton was a party to a settlement upon
her. There seems to me, about the codicil as it
stands, a declaration that the connexion with
Newton's niece was such as, if people knew all,
Newton might have sanctioned. And the sup-
position of a private marriage, generally under-
stood among the friends of the parties, seems to
me to make all the circumstances take an air of
likelihood which no other hypothesis will give
them : and this is all my conclusion.
If there were a marriage, the most probable
reason for the concealment was, that it was con-
tracted at a time when the birth and station of
Mrs. Barton would have rendered her production
at court as the wife of Montague an impediment
to his career. He was raised to the peerage in
1700, and as the connexion was of long standing
in 1706, it may well be supposed that it com-
menced at the time when (in his own opinion at
least) his prospects of such elevation might have
been compromised by a decided misalliance. The
lower the tone of morals, the greater the ridicule
which attaches to unequal marriages, Montague,
though of noble family, was the younger son of a
younger son, and not rich : it was common among
the Tories to sneer at him as a parvenu. He had
made his first appearance in the great world as
the husband of a countess-dowager, and it may be
that the parvenu was weak enough to shrink from
producing, as his second wife, a woman of Terf
much lower rank, the granddaughter of a country
clergyman, and the daughter or a man of no pre-
tension to station. That Mr. Macaulaj has not
underrated the position of the country dergj, is
known to all who have dipped into the writings of
the seventeenth century. It is not, however,
necessary to explain why the supposed marriage
should have been private. As the worid is con-
stituted, no rules of inference can be had down in
reference to the irregular relations of the sexes.
With reference to the insinuation that Newton
owed his official position rather to his niece than
to his ability, it can be completely shown that, on
the worst possible supposition, the office in the
Mint could have had nothing to do with Mrs. C.
Barton. Newton was appomted to the lower
office (the Wardenship) in March, 1695-96, when
the young lady was not sixteen years old, and
before she could have been a rendent under her
uncle's roof. The state of the coinage had caused
much uneasiness; it was one of the difficulties,
and its restoration was one of the successes, of the
day. The best scientific advice was taken : Locke,
Newton, and Halley were consulted, and all were
placed in office nearly at the same time ; Newtcm
in the London Mint, ^allev in the Chester Mint,
Locke in the Council of Trade. Neither Locke
nor Halley had any nieces. Before Newton*8 ap-
pointment there was some negociation of a pubuc
character : the Wardenship was not yacan^ and
the government seems to have tried to induce
Newton to take something subordinate. March 14^
Newton wrote to Halley, in reference to a current
rumour, — ** I neither put in for any place in the
Mint, nor would meddle with Mr. Hoards [the
comptroller's] place, were it offered me." On the
19th, Montague informs Newton that he is to have
the Wardenship, vacant by the removal of Mr.
Overton to the Customs. Foiur years afterwards,
when the great operation on the coinage, by mauT
declared impracticable, had completely succeedeo,
Newton, a principal adviser and the principal ad-
ministrator, obtained the Mastership m the course
of promotion. Montague was raised to the peerage
in the following year, and mainly, as the patent
states, for the same service. Sp that, though
Montague was the patron as to the Wardenship, vet
scientific assistance was then so sorely needed, uat
no hypothesis relative to any niece would be ne-
cessary to explain the phenomenon of Newton's
appointment : while, as to the Mastership, it may
almost be said that Montague was more indebted
to Newton for his peerage, than Newton to Mon-
tague for that promotion which any minister must,
under the circumstances, have granted.
Not. 5. 1853.] NOTES AND QUERIES. «a
In no account of Newton that I ever read is it There is another point which our modern
stated that Mra. Barton nas an inUmate friend of manners will not allow to be verj close!; handled
Swift, probably through Halifax. Having been in print, but on which I am dispoeed to lay some
told that there h frequent mention of her in stress. On September 28, 1710, and April 3,
Swift's Journal to Stella, I examined that series 1711, Swift visited Mrs. Barton at her lodginsB.
and the reat of the correspondence, in which her On each of these occasions she regaled him with
name occurs about twenty times. One letter from a good story, which there is no need to repeat:
herself, under the name of Conduitt (Noreni- there is no hiirm in either, and they arc far from
ber 29, 1733), is indorsed by the Dean, " Mj old being the most singular communications which kfi
IHend Mrs. Barton, now Mrs. Conduitt," and es- made to Stella; but they go beyond what, even in
tabllshes the identity of Swift's friend with that day, wilL be considered as the probable con-
Newton's niece : otherwise, it proves nothing here, versation of a maiden lady of thirty-one, with a
The other points to be noticed are as follows. bachelor man of the world of forty-three. Bat
1710, September 28, November 30, March 7 ; they by no means exceed what we know to be the
1711, April 3, Jul^ 18, October 14 and 25, Swift license then talcen by married women; andSwift's
Twited or dined with Mrs. Barton at her lodgings, tone with respect to the stories, combined with hig
Se was also at this time on good terms with obvious respect for Mrs. Barton, may make any
Halifax, and dined with him November 2S, 1710, one lean to Ihe supposition that he believed bim-
and with Mrs. Burton on November 30. Ac- self to be talking to a married woman,
cording to the idiom of the day, lodgingi was a The reserve of Swift puta us quite at fault as to
name for every kind of residence, and even for the the locality of Mrs. Barton's lodgings. Tiiey may
apartments of a guest in the bouse of his boat, have been in Lord Halifax's house ; but if not, it
ISlr anything to the contrary in the mere word, requires some supposition to explain why they
the lodgings might have been in the house of Lord were not in that of Newton, with whom sne had
Halifax, or of Newton himself. But, on the other lived, and with whom she certainly lived al^ the
hand, the future Dean, much as he writes to death of Halifax. Perhaps, when farther research
Stella of every kind of small talk, never mentions is m.ade in such directions as may be indicated
Halifax and Mrs. Barton together, never makes by the only unreserved statement of the existing
the slightest allusion to either in connexion with cose which has ever been printed, the conclusion J
the other, thoush in one and the same letter he arrive at, as to me the moat probable, ma}^ either
minntes his havmgdinedwithHalifaxon the28th, be reinforced, or another substituted for it. Be
and with Mrs. Barton on the 30th. There must this as it may, such points as I have discussed, re-
have been intentional suppression in this. All lating to such men as Newton, will n '
the world knew that there was some liaison be- abeyance for c < ■ ■ ■ > >
tween the two ; yet when Swift (171 1, Nov. 20) they will,
records his having been " teased with wbiggish ^_^^__
discourse " by Mrs. Barton, he does not even drop
a sarcasm about her politics having been learnt "B. pahb oh uilton.
from Halif<ix This is the more remarkable as Amongst my autographs I find the inclosed
the two seem to have been almost the only persons j^^^^ f^^,„ jy^' p^^^ ° j^ j^ „^;„g„ ^ ^ jjf.
who are mentioned as talking wh.ggery to h.m. ^^^^^ ^f ^^^ ;„ ^ ^ „^^ iH^bte
To this hst, however, may be added Lady Bett^ ^^^^ /^ ^^^^^ -^ -^ addressed, or when written,
Germain, well known to the readers of Swift s j ^„ „„^(,le to say. As it relates to the opinion^
poetry, who joined Mrs. Barton in inflicting the ^^[j ^y Milton, i«rhaps you may think it worth
yexfttion, and at whose house the conversation insertion in your work, particularly as Milton has
took place. It thus appears that Mrs. Barton was ^^^ j,^^ ^/y^^j of some papers in "N.&Q."
received m a manner which shows that she was ]n^gj„ WMF
regarded as a respectable woman. The sup-
pression on the part of Swift may indicate respect Copy of Letter from Dr. Parr, without date or
for his two friends (that he highly respected Mrs. addi-ess.
Barton appears clear), and observance of a con- Dear Sir,
vention established in their circle. But perhaps I send you Johnson's Li/e of Milton. My
it is rather to be attributed to his own position former feelings again return upon me, that John-
with respect to Stella, which was cert»nly peculiar, son did not mean to affirm that Milton prayed not
though no one Can say what their understnnding upon any occasion or in any manner ; but that
was at the date of the journal. This journal camo he was engaged in no visible worship; that he
again into Swift's hands before it was published ; prayed at no Elated time ; that he had not what
BO that we can only treat it as containing what he we may call any regular return of family or pri-
finally chose to preserve. AUuBiona may have vate devotion. Pray read Ihe sequel. That he
been struck oat. lived without prayer can hardly be olBrmed, this
U4
NOTES AND QUERIES.
tNo.su.
eatAj is decided in mj &voar : it mnj ireu the
upeiTsnce of contradiction to the former passage,
that omitting public prayer he omitted all i in
trutii, the eiprewion just quoted ia too peremp-
tory and too general. But the sense of Johnson
oantiot be mistaken, if jou attend to the different
■nam he had in each sentence; and I repeat my
(bnaer nasertion, that Johnum did not think
Hilton destitute of a devout spirit, or totally
Begligent of prayer in some form or other.
Tours, TCry traly and respectfully,
J. Pakb.
• !■*
As an instance of the unfortunate dispersion
of the ports of valuable MSS. through different
countries, occasioned probably, in the case now
to be mentioned, by public conTulsions and the
wQd fury of revolutionarj mobs in France, will
you afford me space to quote an interesting de-
sciiption of a MS. from Uie catalogue of a library
to be sold at Paris in December next ? The MSS.
«Bd printed books in this library belonged to the
eminent bookseller J. J. De Bure, whose ancestor
wu the distinguished and well-known biblio-
jiruiher GrulUaume de Bure. The publicity given
to descriptions like the present through the me-
dium of "N. & Q." may ultimately lead, on some
oocasions, to the scattered volumes being brought
together again, either by way of purchase, or in
«zohange tot other works. Jobs Macb&t.
Oxford.
^ Catalogue del Lieret rarti et precieax, maniacrUt tt
imprimh, dt la BibHothtqiu dt feu M. J. J. De Bure,
aiKi'cH Ubraire du Sot et de b Bibliolliiqv! Sogate, etc.
" No. 1395. Le Second Livre dcs Commentnirea dc
la Gnore GalUqne, par Cuu9 Julius Cs»r, traduict
«■ ftanfOTs. In-8, mar. noir, avea d«a fennoin en
*■ Manuserit sur tQin.
*■ L'ouyrsgB ne porta pas de litre ; on lit seulement
•or la {dHt du volume, Tomus Secundus, et au veisa
du 31 buillet ; c'y eommence le Second livre dea Com-
nMouIres de la Guerre Galtfque.
"Cemanuscril atti fait pour Franfois T"j le ehif-
IVe de ce Prince se trouve au premier teuillet Jm
V«L ae compoH de 94 f^illeti de teite, et de 4 leuii-
lets de table. L'Ecriture est trgs-belle, et paraU SCre
de I'un des meilleurs calligraphes de I'^poque de
F^anfois I**; faeaucoup de moU sant en or et en azur.
"On remarqne 28 miniatures, 15 med«llon» d'Em-
pereurs et d'autres personnsges Remains, 1 2 figures
d'engins ou msebines de guerre, et 3 fleurons ; en tout
£8 peintures.
" Ce n'est point, & propremenl parler, une traduction
dn Commentaires. L'autcurBUpposc, danslepr^mbule
de oette paitie de rouvrege, que Franfois 1' uu Cam-
imnamaut du Moj/t d^Avgmte, Pbk 1519, oflont eoun'r k
■ttiftK iafimmt de Byeert, y fait la mcmtn dt CSir.
" De la, il itaUit nn dialogue «atrB lea
sonnagei, Franfoi* I" ■'eaquie
de la guerre dei Gaulea, et C^aai lui tm
tails tels gu'ilt ont £l£ itxitM par lai-mAoae.
■' On ne preuute nudheureDsemeiit ici qu'nD Tsai
Le Tome i. est au Mua£e Britanntque % on le trwvei
diquf sous le No. 6205. dans le CataJag^ of tin Hi
bian MSS. in the Sritiik JVunaB, London, IRK
Tome ill in folio. Ce Tome i. eat d6:rit dam t'n-
vrage de M. Waagen, Kumtuitrlie nmd EMiatbr u Af-
land md Font, BerTin, IB3T, Tobn 1. p. 14S.
" Le Tome liL ittit i veadre dan OM do*
nfes, au prii de 3000 froiwa, cboa M. Tvdbmm (Adh-
fin du fiiUtqpAib, ann6e 1850^ No. 1SX2. al r.»ia)i
nana De aavona oil il a^ sctudienwnt.
■ Notre volume est le plus pricunx das Xttm. H
Temporta nir lea deni autrea pv )e «oaabtc da pal>-
tures (le Tome L n'ea a que 14, et 1b Tone iii. wi»-
ment IE) et par rint^rit qu'o&ent «■ p^utuca ds-
" La premiere, oharmante minUturs ai
gris et or, repr£sente Franfoii I' 1 dbeval, ooaram a
serf; U dernidre nwntre la priie du oerfl
" Farmi les autre* auJL-ta, fgiJeoaeut tiwtb Oi fd-
saille, on remarque pluueurg bataillei ultra lea Somua
etlea Gauloia, rendues dans Iran dnsadMailiavvena
finesse admirable d'eifeution. Maia oequi, par-deana
tout, danne un prii infini i oe manaacril, oc aoot ant
portiaits, en medallions, qui nprodBiaent lea IraiM M
quelques hommes de gut
Jig EODt peinta avee une
ment merveilleuaa ( dea
dans les Commentariei de C£*ar, aont Merits i tibtt im
portraits ; lea noma vfritablea ont iii ttaofca mi-dta-
de 41 ans;
I da 34 I
3°. Qidntut TUiirita SabiMUt, Odet d* FooBt ^Wmx),
Sieur de Lautrec, &g& de 41 ana i 4*. JMn, la Hai^
schal de Chsbones, Seigneur de la FaHee^ igi de 5T
ans ; 5°. Liaiui AnoKuleiia CUta, Ahm da Heat-
moreney, agj da 28 ans, et deptua Cwwu alable ia
France i 6'. PtAL Seidia Baaiiu, )• ICwanltal de
Fteurangea, Seigneur de la Harebe (Mark), premiB
SdgoenT de Sedan, igi de 24 am i 7>. FHUiia Omna,
le SieuT de Toumon, qui fust ta£ i la batailla da Pavia,
<• La plupart des miniatures du vnlnma asot aig-
n6et C 1519. La perfection qui la* distingac lea
Bvait d'aborJ fait attcibuer au otUlm mioiaturiite
Guila Gloria ; maintensnt on «nut ponvoit affinnet
qu'ellea appartiennent i un peintre nomni£ Godeftoy.
II ae trouve k la bibllotb^ue de I'Ar*enaI one traduo-
tion franfaiae de* Triomphe* de Pftrarque, avee daa
mmia.turea qui sont Incantestablcment de Ib mime
main et de Is meme £poque. Or, I'ime de oes minia-
tures est aign^ Godefmy,
" On pent voir le rsppnxAieaient qne lUt entre laa
deux tnanusctits M. Watgan, dan* Touna^ laxi m-
desBus, Tome iii. p. 395. Ituf saorait, da iasta,y avoir
aueun doute Bur le nom de I'artiite, lonqn'oai ftt dan
le BuOttiit du BibSopliile (pagea dtik cibSia) qaa fia-
KoT. 5. 1S53.] NOTES AND QUEBIES. OS
*iean d«i miniiituret du Tome iiL wmE tlgaiea Goda- destitute children, i« popularly coDudered due to
Jitdi piciorit, 15S0. the paiielieg of St. Botulpb, Afdgate, and St. Mur-
" Ce pr^eieui manutcrit ne sera pu vendu ; il a 4te garet'a, Weatminster : and if he would farther
ligui par M. d« Bure ail dfpartemeQl des ManuserKi gutjgfy himbelf upon that point, he wiU see U
de la Bibliotbeque Impinale. claimed tiy the first named; a Blab in front «f
^^_^^_^ their Bchools, adjoining the Royal Mint, bearing
an inscription to the purport that it was the first
■wiLiUM BLAXB. Protestant charity-school, erected by voluntarj
(Continued from p. 71.^ oontiibiilions in 1693.
If it comes to the earliest London school lac
I venture to send yon another Note regarding poor children, perhaps the Catholics take the lead;
William Blake, claiming for that humble indivi- for we find that it was part of the tactics of the
dual the honour of being the pioneer in the esta- JeauitB, In the reign of Jamea II., to promote their
blishment of chanty-Bchools in Britain, from which design of subverting the Protestant religbn by
department of our soml system who can calculate infusing their Romish tenets into the minds of the
tie benefits accrued, and constantly accruing, to children of the poor by proTiding schools for them
this country! _ in the Savoy and Westminster.
We look in vain through the Silver Drops of Blake says with rerereoce to this movement :
William Blake for any record of an existing in- ., ^^^^^ ^^^ scheme he waa en^aeed upon was a Rood
Stitution, such as he would have his " noble ladies" ^q^,. because il will in some measure slop the mouths
rear at Highgate. Among the many incentives ^f pipist,, „ho are prone to saj, Where are your
he uses to prompt the charitable, we do not find works, and bow few are your hospiials, and how small ia
him holding up for their example any model your charily, nDtwithstanding your greaCpreacbingf
(unless U be " bid Sutton's brave hospitarj ; in j^ remarkable little book, and a very fit corn-
all his amusmg Chanty-school Sticks, his tone j^^ f^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ j;, of WiUiam Blake, to
M that of a man trying to persuade people that ^^1,1, [^ ^^^^^ ^ striking similarity, is the Hetas
the thing he proposes IS ^asible. " Some of HOlemis of Dr. Franck. In thi^ the German
ftem, says the saugu me Blake, "have scarce ^^^^^^ ^^„tes, in a style which bears more than
ftith enough to believe in the success of this great an accidental resemblance to the work of theCovent
aod good design. Kay, your brother Cornish q^^^^ PhUanthropist, how, litUe by litUe, by
himself, continues he in addressing one of his iQ,portunity and perseverance, he nursed his own
ladies, although full of good works, would have charitable plans, of a like kind, into fuU life and
persuaded me to lay. t down upon the ground of its ^- ^„^ ^oth Drs. Woodward and Kennett
impract.cab.litj-. ThelanguageofBIa^ is every- endorse and command the "miraculous footstepi
whereadvocatjngthis"neu. way of chanty. _ "If ^^ BWms Providence" in the labours of Dr.
itbeneu., says lie to an objector, " the more s the pranck. "Could we," says Dr. Kennett, "trace
pity ; and, with reference to the_ poasib Jity of (^e obscurer footsteps of our own charity- schools,
|ilure, he would thus shame them into iberality. the finger of God would be as evidently in them."
Speaking of his fine, handsome, and well cloathed ^yj, ^he Bishop of Peterborough should be igao-
toys; not too fine, because they are the ladies ! rant of these earlier efforts to the same end in hk
our enthusiast adds to this soft mivdur .- ^^ country, U somewhat marveUoos. _ Franck
" But now, if a year or tito hence they should be began Lis charitable woit at Glaucha in 1698 f
grown, which God forbid '. poor ragged, half-starved, while Blake wfts labouring to establish his High-
and no cloaths, country foita would ay. .rfio ride or gate School in 1685. That Franck should know
go that way. Were there not good ladiet eooogh ia nothing about onr pioneer in charitable educatiw,
•ndaboutLondontomamumoMliitleschool?" is probable enough ; but that lie English divine*
Here then is prima facie evidence, I think, that I have mentioned, with Wodrow, Gillies, and M
my subject, poor crazy William Blake, was the host of others, should foe unaware that die pro-
originatot of one of the greatest social improve- ceodings at Halle were only the counterpart of
inents of modern times. those done fourteen years before by Blake in
The charity -school movement had obtained a their own land, is certainly surprising, and afford*
strong hold upon the public mind early in the another proof of the proneness of Britons to extol
past century ; but although I have sought for the everything foreign to the neglect of what is native
name of Blake through many books professing to and at their own doors.
give an account of the early history of such in- Perhaps some of your readers will think I orap-
sl^tutlons, I have not yet met with the slightest estimate the importance of the question, whether
allusion to him, his school, or his Siher Drops. the charlty-schooi movement is of British or ferc^n
The superficial inquirer into the history of grawth ; or whether the honour of its applicatiott
English charity -scho^s will be told that the to the poor (for all eharitg-scbtxAs are not far
honour of the first erecting such, and caring for such) belongs to my subject William Blake, or
436
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 210.
some other philanthropic individual ; if such there
be, let them repair to our Metropolitan Cathedral
on the d^j of the annual assemblage of the Lon-
don charity children : and if, on contemplating
the spectacle which will there meet their eye,
they ao not think it an object of interest to dis-
cover who, as Dr. JCennelt says, " first cast in the
salt at the fountain-head to heal the waters^ and
broke the ground that was before barren," I pity
them.
In concocting this Note, I have had before me
the following :
1. Lysons's Environs of London^ 1795, where
will be found a short notice of Blake. The author,
following Gough, makes my subject a madman,
and says his scheme "failed after laying out
5000/. upon it."
2. Sermon preached for Charity»schools^ by
Dr. Kennett, 1706.
3. Sermons of Dr, Smalridge and T. YvMen^
1710 and 1728. These divines give the prece-
dence to Westminster School, " erected 1688."
4. Wodrows Letters^ edited by Dr. M*Crie,
3 vols., Edin. 1843.
5. Pietas Hallensis : or an Abstract of the
Marvellous Footsteps of Divine Providence, in
the building^ of a very large Hospital, or rather
a Spacious College, for Charitable and Excellent
Uses ; and in the maintaining of many Orphans,
and other Poor People therein at Glaucha, near
Halle in Prussia, related by the Rev. A. H.
Franck, 3 parts, 12mo., London, 1707-16. Let
the curious reader compare this with Blake*s book.
J.O.
FOLK LOBB.
Legends of the County Clare, — About nine
miles westward from the town of Ennis, in the
midst of some of the wildest scenery in Ireland,
lies the small but very beautiful Lake of Inchiquin,
famous throughout the neighbouring country for
its red trout, and for being in winter the haunt of
almost all the various kinds of waterfowl, includ-
ing the wild swan, that are to be found in Lreland,
while the woods that border one of its sides are
amply stocked with woodcocks. At one extremity
of the lake are the ruins of the Castle of Inchiquin,
part of which is built on a rock projecting into the
lake, there about one hundred feet deejp, and tiiis
legend is related of the old castle : — Once upon
a time, the chieftain of the Quins, whose strong-
hold it was, found in one of the caves (many of
which are in the limestone hills that surround the
lake) a lady of great beauty, fast asleep. While
gazing on her in rapt admiration she awoke, and,
according to the customs of the Heroic Age, soon
consented to become his bride, merely stipulating
that no one bearing; the name of 0*Brien should
be allowed to enter the castle gate: this betne
agreed to, the wedding was celebrated with afi
due pomp, and in process of time one loveljr boy
blessed tneir union. Among the other rejoicings
at the birth of an heir to the chief of the clan, s
grand hunting-match took place, and the chase
having terminated near the castle, the chieftain,
as in duty bound, requested the assembled nobles
to partake of his hospitality. To this a ready assent
was given, and the chiefs were ushered into the
great hall with all becoming state ; and then for
the first time did their host discover that one
bearing the forbidden name was among them.
The banquet was served, and now the absence of
the lady of the castle alone delayed the on-
slaught on the good things spread before them.
Surprised and half afraid at her absence, her hus-
band sought her chamber : on entering, he saw
her sitting pensively with her child at the window
which overlooked tne lake ; raising her head as he
approached, he saw she was weeping, and as he
advanced towards her with words of apology for
having broken his promise, she sprang through
the window with her child into the lake. The
wretched man rushed forward with a cry of
horror : for one moment he saw her gliding over
the waters, now fearfully disturbed, chaunting a
wild dirge, and then, with a mingled look of grief
and reproach, she disappeared for ever ! And the
castle and the lordship, with many a broad acre
besides, passed from the Quins, and are now the
property of the O'Briens to this day ; and while
the rest of the castle is little better than a heap
of ruins, the fatal window still remains nearly as
perfect as when the lady sprang through it, aa
irrefragable proof of the truth of the legend in
the eyes of the peasantry.
Francis Robert Davibs.
The Seven Whisperers* — I have been informed
by an old and trustworthy servant that aboufc
twenty years ago, as he was walking one clear
starlight night with two other persons, they heard)
for the space of several minutes, high up in the
air, beautiful sounds like music, which gradually
died away towards the north. He spoke of it as
an occurrence not very uncommon, and said it was
always called " The SevenWhisperers." On inquiry
I found the name well known amongst the poorer
classes.
Is it not an electrical phenomenon ?
Mbtaouo.
Essex.
ITALIAK-BNGLISH, GERMAN-ENGLISH, AND THE
REFUGEE STTUS.
(Vol. vii., p. 149.)
Every one has admired the odd bits of Italian-
English which " N. & Q.** lately published, a true
Nov. 5. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
t^ilological curiosity. Such queer medleja bave
been the result irhenever two opposite idioms have
been thrown together and unskilFulIy stirred up.
Very few foreigners indeed, Sclavonic nations
being eicepted, and particularly the Sussiana,
write French tolerably well. The present Lord
Hahon and Lady Montaigne, in an excellent
Essay on- Marriage, are exceptions to the rule.
Voltaire used to say, —
" Fallen 1DU9 T09 Ters k Paris ;
Et n'alUi pas en Allemagnel"
And very right be was. His kinirly disciple com-
mitted more than once such Irish rhymes as
" Je vais cueilUi dana Uurs sentlen {ilea Uusea)
De fraiches et charinantes roiei ;
Et je dedaigne les lauciers.
En exceptant les lauriers laucM."
Forgetting the diflerence of pronunciation be-
tween the soft t of rose (raze) and the lisping
sound of the c in sauee (som). As I have not bj
me the ponderous and Toluminous vrorlcs of the
poetical monarch, I may have altered some of the
words of tlie quotation; but the rhymes aauce
and rose I aver to be true to the primitive copy.
Even Protestant refugees, born of French parents,
brought up amongst their co-religionists and coun-
trymen, wrote a strange gibberish, often ungram-
Blatical, always unidiomattc, of which traces may
be found even in Basnage and Ancillon. A recent
French theologian, the clever author of a Life of
Spinosa, written in Germany and published in
Paris with some success, has such expressions as
" Les villes protestantes preferent la liberie arec
CaWin que la tyrannique Concorde >veo Luther." —
Hist. Crit. da SaiionalisBie, p. 49.
" Et aillcui : Stuttgard Dontil etait conservateur
HI LA Biblioth^que."— 76.
And M. Amand Saintes is a Frenchman, and S
most erudite man. The celebrated Frau Bettina
Ton Arnim, who dared to translate into English
and to print in Berlin (apud Trowitzsch and Mon,
1838), under the new title of Diarg of a Child,
her own untran stateable letters to Gothe, had at
least the very good excuse of her nationality for
her peculiar English, the choicest, funniest, mad-
dest, and saddest English ever penned on this
planet or in any other, and of which I hope "K.
& Q." will accept some small specimens, taken at
random among thousands such. To begin with
the opening address :
" To the Eiigliah Bardi.
*■ Gentlemen 1 — Tlie noble cup of your mellifluous
ttmgoe so often brimmed with imraorlality, here filled
wiih odd but pure and tier; draught, do not refuse to
taste if you relish its spirit to be home&lc, though not
home.boTD. " Bbttiha AaNiu."
We will next pass to the " Preamble" :
■• The translating of Golhe'a Correspondence with a
Child into English was generally disapproved of. Pre-
vious to its publication in Germany, the well-renowned
Mrs. Austin, by regard for the great German poet,
proposed lo translate it; hut after having perused it
with attention, the literate and the most Tamed boak-
seller of London thought unadvisabk the publication
of a book that in every way widely diflered from the
spirit and feelings of Ibe English, nod therefore it could
not be depended upon for eiciting Ibejr interest Mrs.
Austin, by her gracious mind to comply with my
wishes, proposed to publish some fragments of it, but
as no musician ever likes to have only those passages
of bis composition executed that blandish the ear, I
likewise refused my assent lo the maiming of a work,
became a work of art, that only in the untouched deve-
lopment of its genius might judiciously be enjoyed and
appraised."
Our next and last is taken from p. 133. :
" From those venturesome and spirit-nigbt- wander-
ings I came home with garments wet with melted
snow ; they believed I bad been in the garden. When
night I (brgot all ; on Ibe next evening at the same
time it came back to tay mind, and the fear too I had
suffered j I could not eonceive, how I had ventured to
walk alone on that desolate road in tlie night, and to
stay on suob a waste dreadful spot; I stood leaning at
tbetcourt gale; to-day it was not so mild and still as
yesterday; the galea rose high and roared along; ihe;
sighed up at my feet and hastened on yonder side, the
fluttering poplars in the garden bowed and flung off
their anon'-burden, the clouds drove away in a great
hurry, what rooted fast wavered yonder, and what
could ever be loosened, was swept away by the hasten-
ing breezes" (1 1 1)-
F.S. — Excuse my French -English.
Philab&te Ch&sles, Mazarinseus.
Puis, Palais de I'lnstituL
Meaning of "Delighted" in some Places of
Shakipeare. — I am sorry to be obliged to differ so
often m opinion with H. C. K., but as we are both,
I trust, solely actuated by the love of truth, he
no doubt will excuse me. My difference now
with him is about " delighted spirit," by which he
understands the "tender delicate spirit," while I
take it to be the "delectable" or "delightful
spirit." As I think this is founded on the Latin,
Ibeg permission to quote the following portion of
my note on Jug. ii. 3. in my edition of Sallust :
" Iticompius, iipBafTos, i. t. incapable of dissolution,
the iMompliUlii of Ihe Fathers of the Church. In
imitation probably of the Greek verbal adjective in tsi,
as olpmti, UTfrriis, etc„ Ihe J^Atins, especially Sallust,
sometimes used the past part, as equivalent to an adj.
in bilis : comp. iliii, 5. ; Ixivi. 1. ; ici. T. ; Cat i. i,.
438
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 210.
* Non exorate stant adamaste YieB ; ' Property it. 1 1. 4.,
<Mare scopuUs tmi cces^um ; * Flin. Nat, Hist., xiu 14.
It is in this sense tliat flexva is to be understood in
Virg. JEn,y v. 500.**
The same employment of the past part, is
frequfflo^t in our old English writers, and I rather
think that thej adopted it from the Latin. The
earliest instance which I find in mj notes is from
Golding, who renders the tonitrus et inevitabile
fttlmen of Ovid (^Met m. 301.) :
** With dry and dreadful thunderclaps and lightning to
the same.
Of deadly and unavoided dint**
In Milton I have noticed the following participles
used in this sense : unmoved, abhorred^ tmnumbered,
unapproached, dismayed^ tmreproved, tmremoved^
unsucceededy preferred. But as Milton was ad-
dicted to Latinising, I will give some examples
from Shakspeare himself:
** Now thou art come unto a feast of death,
A terrible and unavoided danger.**
1 Hen. VL, Act IV. Sc 5.
«( We see the very wreck that we must suffer.
And ttnaooufefll is the danger now.
For suffering so the causes of our wreck."
Bich. Il.y Act XL Sc. I.
**^ All imawidBd is the doom of destiny.**
RieK lit. Act IV. Sc. 4.
** Inestimable stonei^ iinoo/ti«cf jewels.**
25., Act I. Sc. 4.
** Tell them that when my mother wen^ with child
Of that insatiate Edward.'*— /&., Act III. Sc. 5.
** I am not glad that such a sore of time
Should seek a plaster by contemned revolt."
King John^ Act V. Sc 2.
**^ The mtumuring surge
That on the unnuniber'd idle pebbles chafes.'*
Lear, Act IV. Sc. 6.
" O, undistinguished space of woman's will." — lb,
I could give instances from- Spenser and even
firom Pope, but shall only observe that when we
say ^ an undoubted fact " we mean an indubitable
one. . Thos. Kbiohtlbt.
P.S. — lam not disposed to quarrel withH. C. K.'s
derivation of awkward (Vol. viii., p. 310.), but I
must observe that the more exact correlative of
toward seems to be wayward. The Anglo- Saxons
appear to have pronounced their 5 as ^ ; but after
tiie Conquest it was pronounced hard in some
cases, and so wayward and awkward may bave
the same origin.
ShcAspeare Portrait. — Can any of your cor-
respondents state whether the sign of Shakspeare,
said to have been painted at a cost of 1502., and
which in 1764 graced a tavern then in Drury
Lane^ called '* The Shakspeare," and in that year
was taken down and removed into the couatrj^
and used for a similar purpose,^ still exists, mod
where? and is the artist who painted such sign
known P Chaklecott.
" Taming of the Shrew."** — I cannot help think-
ing that Christopher Sly merely means that he is
fourteenpence on the score for sheer ale, — no-
thing but ale; neither bread nor meat, horse
housing, or bed.
He has drunk the entire amount, and glories in
his iniquity, like a true tippler. G. H. K.
Lord Bacon and Shakspeare. — Can any of those
correspondents of " N. & Q." who have devoted
attention to the lives of two of England*s greatest
worthies, Francis Bacon and William Shakspeare,
account for the extraordinary fact that, altnough
these two highly gifted men were cotemporaries,
no mention of or allusion to the other is to be
found in the writings of either P Bacon was bont
in 1561, and died m 1626 ; Shakspeare, who wasr
born in 1563, and died ten year9 before the great
chancellor, not only loved
** To suck the sweets of sweet philosophy,"
but Inreathes throughout every pase of his woiip-
drous writings a spirit of philosophy as profouBcl
as his imagination is unlimited ; yet nowhere^ it 10
believed, can he be traced as making the slightest
allusion to the great father of modern philosopfar-
Baeon, on the other hand, whom one can scarcely
suppose to have been ignorant of the writings of
the dramatist, bat who indeed may rather be be^
laeved to have known him persomuly, seems alto-
gether to ignore his existence, or the existence of
any of his matchless works. As the solution of
this problem could not but throw much light on
that most interesting subject-, — the history of the
minds of Shakspeare and Bacon, — I venture to
throw it out as a fit subject for the research of
some of your contributors v^sed in the writings
of these great spirits of their own age, no less than
of all time. Tu£TA»
fSi^Xitsx $0trtf*
Decomposed Cloth. — In Mr. Wright's valuable
work on The Celt^ the Roman, and the Neuron, p»308.y
is mentioned the discovery at York of a Komaa
coffin, in which were distinctly visible "the colour^
a rich purple," as well as texture of the doth with
which the body it had contained had been covered.
I should think that the colour observed was not
that of the ancient dye, but rather was caused by
phosphate of iron, formed by the combination of
iron contained in the soil or water, with phosphoric
acid, arising firom the decomposition of animal
matter. It may ehetk be observed in similar
cases, as about animal remains found in bogs, and
about ancient leather articles found in exesra^
NoV; 5, 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
43»
tloDS, especially when any iron !» m contact with
them, or in the soles of shoes or sandals studded
with nails. W. C^ Tkbveltan.
Wallington.
First and Last — There cannot be two words
more different in meaning than these, and yet they
are both used to express the same sense! Of
two authors equally eminent, one shall write that
a thing is of the^s^ and the other of the last im-
portance, though each means the greatest or ut-
most. How is this ? To me J^rst appears pre-
feraHe, though last may be justifiable. Being on
the subject of words, I am reminded of obnoxious,
which is applied in the strangest ways by different
authors. It is true that the Koman writers used
ohnoxius in various senses ; but it does not seem
so pliable or smooth in English. Generally it is
held to indicate disagreeable or inimical, though
our dictionaries do not admit it to have either of
those meanings I A. B^ C.
Cucumber Time, — This term, which the work-
ing-tailors of England use to denote that which
their masters call " the flat season,*^ has been im-
ported from a country which periodically sends
many hundreds of its tailors to seek employment
in our metropolis. The German phrase is "Die
saore Gurken Zeit," or pickled gherkin time. A
misunderstanding of the meaning of the phrase
inay have given rise to the vulgar witticism, that
tailors are vegetarians, who " live on cucumber "
while at play, and on " cabbage " while at work.
N. W. S.
MS. Sermons of the Eighteenth Century. —
Having lately become possessed, at the sale of an
old library, of some MS. Sermons by the Rev. J.
Harris, Rector of Abbotsbury, Dorset, from the
year 1741 to 1763, 1 shall be happy to place them
in the hands of any descendant of that gentleman.
W. EWABT.
Pimpeme, Dorset.
' BosweWs ^^Johnson^ — In vol. v. p. 272. of my
favourite edition, and p. 784. of the edition in one
volume, Johnson, writing to Brocklesby, under
date Sept. 2, 1784, calls Windham " inter Stellas
Luna minores." Boswell, in a note, says, " It is
remarkaUe that so good a Latin scholar as John-
son should have been so inattentive to the metre,
as by mistake to have written stellas instead of
ig-nes'' Now, with all due deference, a Captain
M Native Infantry ventures to suggest that both
Stellas and ignes are wrong, and that Johnson was
thinking of the noble opening of Horace's 15 th
Epode:
*< Nox erat, et coela fulgebat Luna aereno,
Inier minora sidera. *'
F. C.
. Bangalore.
Stage Coaches. -^ It occurs to me as highly de-
sirable that, before the recollection of the old sti^e
coach has faded from the memory of all but me
oldest inhabitant, an authentic statement should
be placed on record of the length of the stagw^
and the speed that was obtained, by this mode of
conveyance, in whidi England was for s& many
years without a rival.
The speed of mail coaches is, I believe, chroni-
cled in the British Almanac of the Society fer
the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge; but their
speed, if I mistake not, was surpassed by that of
the " Rival,'' which travelled (from Momnouth, I
think) to London after the opening of the Great
Western Railway.
Could any of your correspondents favour us
with the time-bill of that coach, detailing the
length of the several stages, and the time of per-
formance ? It would also be interesting to chronicle
the period during which this rivsJry with the
railway was maintained. Geo. E. Fbebs.-
Antecedents. — The word " antecedents,'* as a
plural, and in the sense attached to it hf the
French, is not to be found in any English dic»^
tionary that I have the means of consulting. Ajouil
yet it seems now to be conmionly used as an
English expression^ even by some of ous "best
writers;
When was this word first im]^rtedf and h^
whom ? I have just met with an instance of it in
Jerdan*s Autobiography, voL i. p. 191. :
*' I got him (Hammon), with a full knowledge of htfc^
antecedents, into the employment of a humaiw aad-
worthy wine merchant of Bordeaux.**
Henbt H. BmnHK.
St. Lucia.
The Letter X. — The letter X on brewers' CBakjk
is probably thus derived :
Simjdex:=:srng\e x, or X.
2>?/pZex=double x, or XX.
Tnp^ear= treble x, or XXX.
This was suggested by Owen's Ep^ram, fib. xil.
34. :
** Laudatur vinum simplex, eenr isia duplex,
Est bona duplicitas, optima simf^icitas.**
B. o.. v..
A Crow-bar. — In Johnson's Dictionary the
explanation given of this word is " piece of nron
used as a lever to force open doors, as the Latins
called a hook cortms.''' In Walters' English,
and Welsh Dictionary, the first part of which was
published about the year 1770, this word is
printed " Croe-bar." Is it probable that the word
crow has been derived from the Camb.-Brit. word
cro, a curve ? and that the name has been ginsen
from the circumstance of one end of a crow-bar
being curved for the purpose of making it more
efficient as a lever ? N . W. S-
440
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 210.
Minor ^nttUi.
Bishop Grehan, — I want any information ob-
tainable with reference to a Roman Catholic
bishop in Ireland named Grehan; his Christian
name, family, date of his bishopric, and name of
it. Where can I find such particulars ?
O* L. It* G*.
Doxology, — In his "Christmas Carol!" to the
tune of " King Salomon," old Tusser has the fol-
lowing :
" To God the Son and Holy Ghost,
Let man give thanks, rejoice, and sing,
From world to world, from coast to coast,
For all good gifts so many ways,
That God doth send.
Let us in Christ give God the praise,
Till life shall end!**
•Query, Is thb the origin of our own doxologies ?
L. A. M.
Great Yarmouth.
Arrow^marh, — On an ancient pump of wood,
-extracted from the Poltimore mine in North
Devon, I perceive a deeply cut arrow-mark.
What is the inference as to the age of this relic
'from the mark referred to ? The fragment is that
' of a large oak tree hollowed out, and now decom-
posing from exposure after its long burial. J. R. P.
Gabriel Poyniz. — There is a portrait here in-
scribed ** Gabriel Poyntz, an. Domini 1568, aetatis
suae 36 :** and having a coat of arms painted on it-,
Barry of eight, or and gules, with a crest very in-
distinct, but apparently a liou*s head, and the
motto " Clainte refrainte."
Can any of your correspondents inform me of
the meanmg of this motto, and the language in
which it is expressed ; and also what the crest is ?
G. Poyntz was of South Okendon in Essex, and
there is an account of his family in Morant*s
Essex; from which it appears that he was de-
scended from the family of Poyntz of Tockington
in Gloucestershire, of which there is an account
in Atkins' Gloucestershire. He was afterwards
knighted. — Any information as to him, in addition
to that which is contained in Morant, would bo
very acceptable. S. G. C.
Bradley, Ashbourne.
Queen Elizabeth's and Queen Anne's Motto^
^^ Semper eadem" — Upon what occasion, and by
what authority was the motto " Semper eadem '
used as the royal motto in the reign of Elizabeth ?
The authority for Queen Anne*s motto has been
afforded by your correspondent G. (Vol. viii.,
p. 255.) ; though he has not fully answered the
original Query (Vol. viii., p. I74.)i as the motto in
Question was signified to tne public in the London
Gazette, Dec. 21—24, 1702 ; was ordered to be
continued in 1707, and to be discontinued (by an
order in council) on the accession of the House of
Hanover in 1714, when the old motto *^Dieu et
mon droit '' was resumed. Z. Z. Z.
Bees. — In these parts the increase of the apiary
is known by the three following names: — The
first migration from the parent hive is (as all your
country readers are aware) a swarm ; the next b
called a cast ; while the third increase, in the same
season, goes under the name of a cote. Perhaps
some one will kindly inform me if these names are
common in other parts of England ; and if there
are any other locsd designations for the different
departures of these insect colonists.
John P. Stilwell.
Dorking.
Nellt/ O'Brien and Kitty Fisher. — Perhaps
some of the readers of " N. & Q." can tell me
where information is to be found respecting these
two celebrated women, who have been immortalised
by Sir Joshua Reynolds, and whose portraits are
sometimes to be met with.
" Cleopatra dissolving the Pearl " is a portrait
of Kitty, and he probiu)ly introduced them both
into some of his fancy pictures.
As I happen to possess a good portrait of one
of them, I should like to know something of their
history. Cantab.
University Club.
** Homo unius libri.'\ — To whom does this say-
ing originally belong ? The British Critic gives
it to St. Thomas Aquinas :
** Wlien asked on one occasion who is in the way
to become learned, he answered, < Whoever will con-
tent himself with the reading of a single book.* **— .
The British Critic, No. Lix. p. 202.
W. Fbaseb.
Tor-Mohun.
" Now the fierce bear,** ^c. — Can any of your
readers inform me who is the author of the fol-
lowing lines P
** Now the fierce bear and leopard keen,
All perished as they ne*er had been ;
Oblivion *s their best home.
There is an oath on high.
That ne*er on brow of mortal birth.
Shall blend again the crowns of earth.'*
I
e.
Prejudice against Holy Confirmation. — I have
found among my rural parbhioners an idea very
prevalent, that it is wrong, or at least highly im-
proper, for a married woman to become a candi-
date for, or to receive holy confirmation ; and this
quite apart from any sectarian views on the
matter. I should like to know if any of my
Not. 5. 1853.]
DOTES AND QTIEKIES.
441
clerical brethren have noticed the eams super-
stition as I must call it. Labourers' wives in
some cases have at once stated their beinn married
09 a valid objection; and in others their husbands,
although Churchmen, have at once entered their
veto on their being confirmed. Can it arise from
any vague reminiscence of the practical rule of
the Church of England on the subject, which has
been so long ignored? W. Fbaseb.
Tor-Mohua.
Epigram on MacAdam. — Who was the author
of the following epigram?
« My Essay on Roads, quoth MaoAdam, lies there,
The result of a life's lufubration ;
But-iloea not the litle-page looK rather bare?
I long for a Latin quotation.
" A Delphin edition oF Virgil stood nigh.
To second his classic desire;
When the roadjmalier hit on the shepherd's replv,
' Mirar Magii' I rather oda-mire."
Jane Scrimahaw. — Can any of youi
correspondenls inform me if there is any other
biographical notice of Jane Scrimshaw, who at-
tained the advanced age of 127, and resided for
upwards of eighty years in tlie Merchant Taylors'
Almshouse, near Litile Tower Hill, than that
recorded in Caulfield's Memoirs of Remarkable
Characters f J. T. M.
The Word " Quadrille." — May I trouble some
kind reader to give me the origin, derivation, full
and literal meaning, and the several senses, in their
regular succession, of the above word Quadrille T
There seems to be much uncertainty attached to
the word. Veritatis Amicds.
The Hvagarians in Paules. — Perhaps some of
the ingenious contributors to " N. & Q." may be
able to assist P. C. S. S. to explain the following
passi^re in the dedication of a rare little book,
Dehkers Dreame (Lond. 4to. 1620). It is in-
scribed:—
" To the truly accomplished pentleman, and worthy
deserverof all men's loves, Master Endym ion Porter. Sir,
if you aske why, from theheapesof men, Ipickeyouout
only to be that jifurui ahantut which must defend me.
lelt me tell ;ou (what vou bnowe allready) that boakes
are like the Hungarians in Paules, who have a pcivi-
ledge to holde out their Turkish history for anle one
to reade. I1iey beg nothing : the teited past-bord
talkes all — and if nothing be given, nothing is spoken,
but God knowes what they thinkel"
An explanation of the above passage is ve^
earnestly desired by
Ferni Wanted. — Specimens of the following
rare ferns are much wanted to complete a col-
Voi. VIII.— No. 210.
lection : — Woodaia ilvengia, WooiUia <dpina, Cyt'
topteria monlana, Laatrea cristala, Laalrea recurea,
Lastrea multiflora, Aipleitinm altemijtonon, TH'
chomanea apeciotnm.
The undersigned will feel very much obliged to
any charitable person, residing near the habitat of
any of the above-mentioned ferns, who would take
the trouble to forward to him, if not a root, at
least a specimen for drying, he need scarcely say
that any expenses will be most cheerfully defrayed.
Hbhbi Cooper Kbt.
Slretton Rectory, near Hereford.
Craiim Gie Philosopher. — Two of the figures on
the brass font in the church of St. Bartholomew
at Li&ge are superscribed Johannes Evangelistu
et Cralon Philosophus. — Can any reader of "N.
& Q." say if anything is known about the latter,
who is represented as being baptized by the
Evangelist? R. H. 0.
The Solar Annual Edipae in the Year 1263. —
In the Norwegian account of Haco's expedition
agtunst Scotland, a.d. 1263, published in the
original Islandic from the Flateyan and Frisian
MSS., with a literal English version by the Rev.
James Johnstone, I read as follows :
" While King Haco lay in Ronaldsvo, a great dark-
bright round the cuo, and it continued so for some
hours."— P. 45,
King Haco, according to the account, left
Bergen on his expedition " three nights before the
'Selian' vigils . . . with all his fleet," and,
" having got a gentle breeze, was two nights at
sea when be reached that harbour of Shetland
called Breydeyiar Sound (Bresaay Sound, I pre-
sume) with a great part of hia navy." Here he
remained "near half a month, and from thence
sailed to the Orkneys; and continued some time
at Elidarwiok, which is near Kirkwall . . . After
St. Olave'a wake (July 18, 0. S.) King Haco,
leaving Elidai'wick, sailed south before the Mull
of Ronaldsha, with all the navy ;" and bein^ joined
by Ronald from the Orkneys, with the ships that
had followed him, he "led the whole armament
into Ronaldsha, which he lefl upon the vigil of
St. Lawrence (July 30, O. 8.)."
Now I wish to know, 1. On what Am in
August this eclipse took place, the day of the
week, commencement of the eclipse, &c.
2. Whether any cotemporary, or other writes
besides the Icelandic historian, bos recorded this
eclipse ? S.
Filzroy Street.
D'laraeli — how spelt f — CkccA»vs is so for-
tunate as to possess all the acknowledged works
of D'Israeli the elder, as published by himself,
la (he title-page ot every one of them, the name
442
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 210.
of the elefiant and accomplished author Is Bpelt
(aa above) aUk an apostrophe. Id the kt«
edition of bis collected works, by hie no less ac-
complished son, tlie name ia printed wilhont the
apostrophe. Indeed Ihe name so appears in all
the vforka of Mr. D'lsraeli the younger; a prac-
tice which he seems to have taken up even in the
lifetime of hia father, who spelt it diOerently.
Can any of your readers inform Caucasus of the
reason of this difference, and of the authority for
it, and which is the correct mode ? He has vainly
sour^ht for information in the Heralds' Visitation
books for Buckinghamshire, preserved in the
British Uuseum. Cadcasus.
Richard Otmald. — Could an; of your corre-
spondents give me any information respecling
Mr. BIcbard Oswald, the commissioner who neco-
oiated the Treaty of 1 782 at Paris, with Franklin,
and his other colleague!!, representing the United
States P Is there any obituary or biographical
notice of him in existence ? L.
Ci'ormvelVa Deicenrlanta. — Oliver Cromwell's
daughter Bridget was baptized August 4, 16'24 ;
married to Ireton January 13, 1646-7; a widow
Nov. 26, 1651; married to General Fleetwood,
Lord President in Ireland, before 1652 ; died at
Stoke, near London, 1681. — Can anjrof your cor-
respondents furnish the date of this lady's mar-
riage with Fleetwood ; also, a list of her children
and grandchildren by Fleetwood ? It is supposed
that Captain Fleetwood's daughter, i. e, the Ger '
SRinot Hmtxiti toftb fltiltDrttf.
Margaret Patten. — I have just seen a curious
old picture, executed at least a century ago, and .
which was lately found amongst some family
Eapers. It is a half-length of an old woman in
omely looking garments ; a dark blue stufl'gown,
the sleeves partially rolled up, and irhile sleeving
protruding from under, not unlike the fashion of
to-day ; a white and blue checked apron ; around
her neck a while tippet and a handkerchief, on
her head a " mutch,' or close linen cap, and a lace
or embroidered band across her forehead to bide
the absence of hair. She holds something undi^
tinsuishabte in one band.
The picture is about 10x8 inches, and is done
on glass, evidently transferred from an engraving
on steel. The colours have been laid on with
hand, and then, to preserve and make an opaiiue
back, it has received a coating of plaster of Paris ;
alti^ether in its treatment resembling a coloured
photograph.
By-the-bye, I am sorry I could not get a copy
(photographic) of it, or that would have rendered
intelligible what I fear my lame descriptions
cannot. Beneath the figure is the following in<
scrip lion :
" Marc
lP*TI
ral's granddaughter, married a Berry.
Letter of Archbishop Curuten to Archbiship
Parker.— In The Hunting of the Romish Fox,
collected by Sir James Ware, and edited by
Bobert Ware (8vo., Dublin, 1683), there is a long
account of an image of Ihe Saviour which, to tlie
astonishment of the p^ooil people of Dublin, and
by the contrivance of one Father Leigh, sweated
blood in the year 1559. It is added, at p, 90. :
" The Archbishop of Dulilin wrote (Ai'i relation and
to thh fffeel. to his brother, Arolibishop of Caiiteihuty,
Matthew Parker, who was very joyful al the receipt
The whole chapter in which this occurs is statei]
to be " taken out of the Lord Cecil's Afemorials.''
Can any of your reailers give me assistance in
finding these Afemorials, or this letter to Arch.
bishop Parker, or a copy of it? I intended tc
have made it an object of inquiry and search ii
Dublin, but I have been prevented accomplishing
my design of visiting that country. Perhaps som(
of your Irish readers may be able to help me.
JOHK BbUCE
Born in the
Scotland, noiv
Marg", Westrainsster.aged 138,"
There is no date appended.
The word "Lochnugh" in the inscription is
evidently spelt from the Scotch pronunciation of
Lochwinnoch, near Paisley.
I should he very elail if any of your readers or
correspondents in London could ascertain if the
name, &c. is to be found in the records of St.
Margaret's, Westminster, and also give me some
facts as to the history of this poor old Scotch
woman, left destitute so far from home and
kindred.
If it can be authenticated, it will make another
item for your list of longevals.
Jambs B. Mubdoch.
Glasgow.
[In the Bmrd-rootn of the workhouse of St. Mar-
garet's. Westminster, is a portrait of Margaret Fatten,
which corresponHs with the picture jusl described, and
bears the folloiring inscription :
"MsBGAHiT Pattitm, aged 136: the Gift of John
Dowse)!, William GofT, Mattbeiv Burnett, Tliomai
Parker, Robert Wright, John Parquol, Oveneers,
Christ Church, and there is a stone on the eartetn
boundary wall inscribed, " Near this place lielh Mab-
QAaiT pAtTHN, who died June 26, 1739, in the Parish
Workhouse, aged 138.' In Waleott'i Jfcmorioii of
Nov, 5. 1853,]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
443
WestminsteTy p. 288., we are told ** she was a native of
Loch borough, near Paisley. She was brought to
England to prepare Scotch broth for King James IT.,
but, owing to the abdication of that monarch, fell into
poverty and died in St. Margaret*s workhouse, where
her portrait is still preserved. Her body was followed
to the grave by the parochial authorities and many of
the principal inhabitants, while the children sang a
hymn before it reached its last resting-place."]
Etymology of " Co«a." — What is the etymology
bf our noun and verb coin and to coin f I do not
know if I have been anticipated, but beg to sug-
gest the following: — Coin^ a piece of cornered
metal ; To coin^ the act of cornering such block of
metal.
In Cornwall, the blocks of tin, when first run
into moulds from the smelting furnace, are square ;
and when the metal is to be fined or assayed, the
miner's phrase is, that it is to be coined ; for the
corners of the moulded block are cut off^ and sub-
jected to the assay ; and the degree of fineness
proved is stamped on the now cornerless block —
thereafter called a coin of tin. It is, I conceive,
by no means a violent supposition that such coins
of tin were current as money very many ages
before either silver, gold, copper, bronze, lead, tin,
or any other metal moulded, stamped, engraved,
t)r fashioned into such coins as we now know had
come into use. We know to what far-back ages
the finding of tin carries us, its find being entirely
confined to Cornwall ; its presence near the sur-
face in an ore readily reduced and easily melted
making its reduction into the metallic state pos-
sible in the very rudest state of society and of the
arts. C. D. Lamont.
Greenock.
[See Dr. Richardson for the following derivation: —
*' Fr. coigner. It. cuniare^ Sp. cunavt acuiiar^ to wedge,
and also to coin. Menage and Spelman agree from
the Latin cuneus. ^Cuneusj sigillum ferreum, quo num-
mus cuditur ; a forma dictum : atque inde coin quasi
cune pro moneta.' An iron seal with which metal is
stamped ; so called from the shape. And hence money
is called coin (q. cune^ wedge). — SpelmanJ'* The Rev.
T. R. Brown, in an unpublislied Dictionary of Difficult
Etymology *i suggests the following; — " Fr. coign^ a
coin, stamp, &c. ; Gaelic, cuin^ a coin. Probably from
the Sanscrit kan^ to shine, desire, covet; kanaka^ gold,
&c. The Hebrew ceseph, money, coin, is derived in
like manner from the verb casaph, to desire, covet. The
other meaning attached to the French word coign, viz.
a wedge, appears to be derived from quite a different
root."]
Inscription at Aylesbury. — ^Tn the north transept
of St. Mary's Church, Aylesbury, occurs the fol-
* This useful work makes two volumes 8vo. : but
how is it the learned Vicar of Southwick printed only
nine copies ? Was he thinking of the sacred ISint 9
lowing curious inscription on a tomb of the date
of 1584 :
" Yf, passing by this place, thou doe desire
To knowe what corpse here shry'd in marble He,
The somme of that whiche now thou dost require
This slender verse shall sone to thee descrie.
** Entombed here doth rest a worthie Dame,
Extract and born of noble house and bloud.
Her sire, Lord Paget, bight of worthie fame,
Whose virtues cannot sink in Lethe floud.
Two brethern had she, barons of this real me,
A knight her freere. Sir Henry Lee, he hight,
To whom she bare three impes, which had to name,
John, Henry, Mary, slayn by fortune spight.
First two being yong, which cavs*d their parents mone.
The third in flower and prime of all her yeares :
All three do rest within this marble stone.
By whiche the fickleness of worldly joyes appears.
Good Frend sticke not to strew with crimson flowers
This marble stone, wherein her cindres rest,
For sure her ghost lyves with the heavenly powers,
And guerdon bathe of virtuous life possest."
Can any of your readers give me any other
instances of children being called imps f and also
tell me wherefore the name was given them ? and
how long it continued in use ? T. W. D. Brooks.
Cropredy, Banbury.
[The inscription is given in Lipscomb*s BuckinghaniF-
shire. Home Tooke says imj) is the past participle of
the A.-S. impart, to graft, ta plant. Mr. Steevens
(Note on 2 Henry IV., Act V. Sc. 5.) tells us, " An
imp is a shoot in its primitive sense, but means a son in
Shakspcare." In Hollinshed, p. 951., the last words
of Lord Cromwell are preserved, who says, " And after
him that his sonne Prince Edward, that goodlie impe,
may long reign over you.** The word imp is per-
petually used by Ulpian Fulwell, and other ancient
writers, for progeny :
"And were it not thy royal impe
Did mitigate our pain."
Again, in the Battle of Aicazar, 1594 :
" Amurath, mighty emperor of the East,
That shall receive the wnp of royal race.**
See other examples in Todd's Johnson and Dr.
Richardson's Dictionaries. Shakspeare uses the word
only in jocular and burlesque passages, which, says
Nares, is the natural course of a word growing ob-
solete.]
" Guardian Angels, now protect me,* ^c. — I
remember John Wesley, and also his saying the
"Devil should not have the best tunes." There
was a pretty love-song, a great favourite when I
was a boy :
«* Guardian angels, now protect me,
Send to me the youth 1 love."
the music of which Wesley introduced to his
congregation as a hymn tune. The music I have,
t and I shall be glad if any of your correspondents
444
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 2ia
can oblige me with the first yerse of this love-
song ; I only recollect the above lines.
William Gakdineb.
Leicester.
[The following is the song referred to by our cor-
respondent :
The Forsaken Nymph.
*' Guardian angels, now protect me,
Send to me the swain I love ;
Cupid, with thy bow direct me ;
Help me, all ye powers above.
Bear him my sighs, ye gentle breezes,
Tell him I love and I despair,
Tell him for him I grieve, say *tis for him I live ;
O may the shepherd be sincere !
•* Through the shady grove I'll wander,
Silent as the bird of night,
Near the brink of yonder fountain,
First Leander bless*d my sight.
Witness ye groves and falls of water,
Echos repeat the vows he swore :
Can he forget me? will he neglect me?
Shall I never see him more ?
** Does be love, and yet forsake me.
To admire a nymph more fair ?
If 'tis so, I'll wear the willow.
And esteem the happy pair.
Some lonely cave V\\ make my dwelling.
Ne'er more the cares of life pursue ;
The lark and Philomel only shall hear me tell,
What bids me bid the world adieu."]
K, C jB.*«. — I observe that in the London Ga-
zette of January 2, 1815, which regulates the ex-
isting order of the Bath, it is commanded by the
sovereign that " there shall be affixed in the
church of St. Peter at Westminster escutcheons
and banners of the arms of each K. C. B." Has
this command been regularly fulfilled on the
creation of each K. C. B. ? I believe that on each
creation fees are demanded by the Heralds* Col-
lege, for the professed purpose of exemplifying the
knight^s arms, and affixing his escutcheon ; but I
never remember to have seen the escutcheons in
Westminster Abbey. Tewabs.
[The order never was fulfilled. If the knights were
entitled to armorial bearings, no fees whatever were
demanded by or paid to the Heralds* College. The
statutes of 1815 were, however, abrogated and annulled
by the statutes of 1847, and the banners are not re-
quired to be suspended in the Abbey. The erection of
the banners and plates, however, rested with the officers
of the order, and the Heralds' College had nothing to
do with the matter?]
Danish and Swedish Ballads. — What are the
best and most recent collections of ancient Danish
and Swedish ballad poetry ? J. M. B.
[We believe the best and most recent collection of
Danish ballads is the edition of Udvafgie Danske Viser
fra Middelalderenf by Abrahamson, Nyerup, Rabbek,
&c., in five small Bvo. volumes, Copenhagen, 1812. The
best Swedish collection was Svenska Folk- Visor /ran
Forteden, collected and edited by Geijer and Afzelius,
and published at Stockholm, 1814 ; but the more
recent collection published by Arwidson in 1834 is
certainly superior. It is in three octavo volumes, and
is entitled Svenska Fornsdnger. En Sanding af K'dmp^
visor. Folk-visor, Lekar och Dansar, samt Barn- och
Vail- Sanger.]
Etymology of ^^ Conger, ^^ — What is the ety-
mology of the word Conger, as applied to the
larger kind of deep sea eels by our fishermen
(who, be it remarked, never add eel. Conger-eel
is entirely used by shore-folk) ?
I imagine that it may be traced from the Danish
Kongr, a king, or kings ; for being the greatest
of eels, the nshermen, whose nets he tore, and
whose take he seriously reduced, might well call
him in size, in strength, and voracity — Kongr, the
king. C. D. Lamont.
Greenock.
[Todd and Webster derive it from the Latin conger
or congrvs ; Gr. y&yypo^, formed of ypi<o, to eat, the
fish being very voracious; It. gongro ; Fr. congre."]
^^ Si vis me flere, dolendum est primum tibi.*^^
This is, I think, the ordinary form of a saying cited
somewhere by Goldsmith, who calls it " so trite a
quotation that it almost demands an apology to
repeat it." Whence comes it originally ? I am
unable to give the exact reference to the passage
in Goldsmith, but in his Citizen of the Worlds
letter 58rd, he has a cognate idea :
" As in common conversation the best way to make
the audience laugh is by first laughing yourself, so in
writing," &c.
W. T. M.
Hong Kong.
[Horace, De Arte Poetica, 102.]
MEDAL AND RELIC OF MART QUEEN OF SCOTS.
(Vol. viii., p. 293.)
I possess a cast of this medal as described by
your correspondent W. Fraser, but which is a
little indistinct in some of the letters of its inscrip-
tions. The yew-tree represented on it is generally
supposed to be that which stood at Cruikston
Castle nearly Paisley ; and its motto "Vires" may
perhaps have been intended to denote its natural
strength and durability. The date of the medal
being 1566, and Mary's marriage with Lord
Darnly having taken place on July 29, 1565, the
yew-tree may have been introduced to comme-
morate some incident of their courtship, and gives
likelihood to the common tradition. I once had a
small box composed partly of its wood, and pf
Nov. S. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
445
that of the "Torwood Oak" near Stirling, which
was presented to me about thirty-five years ago
by an aged lady, whose property it had been for
a long time previously, and who placed much
value on it as a relic. Though visiting Cruikston
Castle in early life, I never heard of there being
any feeling of "superstition" connected with such
little objects as the crosses, &c. which were long
made from the w9od of the yew-tree. They are
all, I think, to be viewed simply as curiosities
associated with the historical interest of the place,
and similar examples are to be found among
our people in the numerous quaichs (drinking-
cups) and other articles which have been formed
from the "Torwood Oak" that protected the
illustrious Sir William Wallace from his enemies ;
from his oak at Elderslie, said to have been planted
by his hand, two miles to the west of Paisley ; and
lately from such scraps of the old oaken rafters
of the Glasgow Cathedral as could be obtained in
the course of its modern repairs.
As respects the yew-tree immediately concerned,
some notices of its remains may be found in a
work entitled The Severn Delineated^ by Charles
Taylor, Glasgow, 1831, at page 82. The author,
who was a very curious local antiquary, died in
1837, aged forty-two. As his book is now scarce,
I may be excused from subjoining rather a long
extract, but which also throws some light on other
particulars of this subject :
** Retreating from Househill (a seat in the vicinity)
to Cruikston Castle, tlie country is rich, and the
scenery delightful. The castle itself might be the
subject of volumes, as it has been the theme of many a
poet, and the subject of many a painter's pencil. Its
name is known all over the world, or may be so, from
the circumstance of its once having been the residence
of Mary Queen of Scots and Henry Lord Darnly ;
and though the famed yew-tree decks not now the
* hallowed mould,* as the poet expresses himself,
* Is there an eye that tearless could behold
This lov'd retreat of beauty's fairest flower?*
About three years ago a large fragment fell from the
south wing of this ruin, despite of all the attention
Sir John Maywell paid to keep it up. The founder of
this castle was one De Croc ; hence the name Crock-
ston, Crocston, or Cruikston. This family (says Craw-
furd), falling in ane heiress, she was married to Sir
Alexander Stewart of Torbolton, second son to Walter,
the second of that name, Great Stewart of Scotland,
and of this marriage are descended the families of Darnly
and Lorn."
Cruikston is now the property of Sir John
Maywell of Nether Pollock. Of the trunk of the
once —
Lady Maywell ordered to be made by an ingenioua
individual, at PoUockshaws, an exact model of the
castle, and some table and other utensils, which
are still in preservation at Pollock. Before its
removal, many are the snufi-boxes, toddy ladles,
&c. that have been made of it, and are still in pre-
servation by the curious. The following couplet,
composed by the late Mr. W. Craig, surgeon, is
inscribed on one of these ladles, which has seen no
little service :
** Near Cruikston Castle's stately tower.
For many a year I stood ;
My shade was of the hallow'd bower ;
Where Scotland's queen was woo'd."
Another medal of Queen Mary's, of considerable
size, of which I have seen a cast many years since,
contained the following inscriptions :
** O God graunt patience in that I suffer vrang.**
The reverse has in the centre :
** Quho can compare with me in grief,
I die and dar nocht seek relief.**
With this legend around :
" Hourt not the ^ quhais [heart whose] joy thou
art."
" They all appear [says Mr. Pinkerton] to have
been done in France by Mary's directions, who was
fond of devices. Her cruel captivity could not debar
her from intercourse with her friends in France ; who
must with pleasure have executed her orders as aSbrd-
ing her a little consolation.'*
G.N.
Mr. Fkaser's supposed medal is a ryal (or
possibly a J ryal) of Mary and Henry, commonly
Known as a Cruickstown dollar ; from the idea
that the tree upon them is a representation of the
famous yew-tree at Cruickstown Castle. It ap-
pears, however, from the ordinance for coining
these pieces, that the tree is a " palm-tree crowned
with a shell paddock (lizard)* creeping up the
stem of the same." The motto across the tree is
"DAT GLORIA VIRES." (Scc Lindsay*s Scotch
Coinage, p. 51.) John Evans.
((
green yew.
The first that met the royal Mary*s view ;
When bright in charms the youthful princess led
The graceful Darnly to her throne and bed." —
I
EARLT USE OF TIN. DERIVATION OF THE NAME
OF BRITAIN.
(Vol. viii., p. 344.)
The reply of Dr. Hincks appears to require
the following. While seeking information upon
the fiirst of these matters, I took up one of my old
school-books, and at the foot of a page found the
following note : " Britannia is from Barat-anac, the
land of tin." I do not recollect to have seen it
elsewhere ; but it appeared to me so apt and cor-
rect that I adopted it at once.
That the Shirutana of the Egyptian inscriptions,
NOTES AM) QUEBIE& [Na 210.
Not. 5. 1863.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
441
in the air holds a scroll, on nhich is inscribed,
"The Liturgj of theCliurch of England, adorned
■with fifty-five historical cuts ; P. La Tergne del.,
M. Van der Gucht sc." Beneath the picture,
"Sold by Robe. Whiiledge at the Bible in Ave
Uaria Lane, near Stationers' Hall."
Some of the outs are very curiom, as No. 16,,
which represents the Devil (adorned with a crown,
Bceptre, and tail) standing on the top of a high
conical rock, and our Blessed Lord at a little dis-
tance from him. The appearance and attitude of
the Apostles are somewhat grotesque. One of the
best is St. Philip (No. 39.), who is represented as
a wrinkled, bearded old man, contemplating a
crucifix in his hand.
No. 51. is a picture of Guy Fawkes approaching
the Parliament House, with a lantern in his hand.
A large eye is depicted in the clouds above, which
sheda a stream of light on the hand of the con-
Bpirator. No. 32. is "The Martyrdom of King
Charles I." No. 33. " The Restoration of Mon-
archy and King Charles II." A number of
cavaliers on horseback, with their conical hats and
long treaees, occupy the foreground of this pic-
ture i the army appears in the background. This
is (he last, though the scroll advertises fifty-five
The Prefaces and Calendar are printed in very
small bad type. The four State Services are
enumerated in the Table of Contents. After the
State Services follow, "At the Healing;" the
Thirty-nine Articles, and a Table of Kindred and
Affinity. This edition neither contains the Ordinal
nor a metrical version of the Psalms. Notwith-
standing the date on the title-page, King George
is prayed for throughout the book, except in the
service "For the Eighth Day of March," when
Queen Anne's name occurs.
Of the modern pictorial editions of the Book of
Common Prayer maybe mentioned that of Charles
Knight, " illustrated by nearly seven hundred
beautiful woodcuts by Jackson, from drawings by
Harvey, and six illuminated titles ; with Explana-
tory Notes by the Rev, II. Stebbing," royal 8vo.,
London, 1838; reprinted in 1846. ThatofMur-
ray, " illuminated by Owen Jones, and illustrated
with engravings from the works of the great
masters, royal 8vo., London, 1845; reprinted in
1850 in med. 8vo. That of Whittaker in 12mo.
and 8vo., " with notes and illuminations." The
last, and by far the best, pictorial edition is that
of J. H, Parker of Oxford, " with fifty illustra-
tions ; selected from the finest examples of the
early Italian and modern German schools, by the
Rev. H. J. Rose and Rev. J. W. Burgon."
Jakltziisso.
IB W -Tins IN CHDSCSTABDg,
(Vol. viii., p. 346.)
This has long been to me a vexed question* and
I fear that none of your correspondenta tuve.
given a satisfactory answer.
I have seen in London sprigs of yew and palm
willow offered for sale before Palm Sunday, At
this period they may, I think, be always found in
Covent Garden Market. I saw them last year-
also in the greengrocers' shops at Brighton. To
me these are evident traces of an old custom of
using the yew as well as the willow. The origin
is to be found in the Jewish custom of carrying
" branches of palm-trees, and boughs of (AicA Irees,
and vrillows from the brook" (Leviticus xxiii. 39,
40.).
Wordsworth alludes to this in his sonnet on
seeing a procession at Chamouny :
"The Hebrews thus carrying in joyful state
Thick Loughs of paint and willows from Ibe brook,
March'ti round the altar — to commemorate
How. wliea their course they from the desert took.
Guided by signs which ne'er ihe sky forsook.
They lodged in leafy Unts and cabins low.
Green boughs were borne."
In A Voyage from Leith lo Lapland, 1851,
vol. i. p. 1 32., there is an account of the funeral of
the poet Oehlenschl^er. The author states, —
"Tlie
Scand
ording,
I old
w\\\ bavo
«, with eTergraenbougbl €
bunches of Hr and boi, mingled in Eome inslances wiih
arlilicial floweTs. It is customary at all funerals to
strew evergreens before the door of the house whera
the body lies, but it is only for some very distinguinbed
person indeed they are &lrewn all the way to ths
Forby, in his Eatt Anglican Vocabulary, says it i»
a superstitious notion that —
"If joo bring yew into the I
amongst Che evergreens used Co du
a death in the fimily before the eni
I believe the yew will be found generally on the
south side of the church, but always near tJie prin-
cipal entrance, easy of access for the procession on
Palm Sunday, and perhaps for funerals, and that
it was used as a substitute for the palm, and
coupled with " the willow from the brook," hence
called the palm willow. A Holt White.
P. S. — I cannot agree with jour correspondent
J. G. CuMMiNQ, that the yen is one of " our few
evei^eens." I doubt our having in England anj
native evergreen but the holly.
The etymology of the name of the yew-tree
clearly shows that it was not planted in churck-
yards as an emblem of evil, but one of immortality,
Thenameof the tree in Celtic is jufior, pronounced
gewar, i.e. " the evergreen head." The townflf
448
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 210.
Newry in Ireland took its name from two yew-
trees which St. Patrick planted: A'Niubaride^
pronounced A-Newery^ i. e. " the yew- trees,**
whieb stood until Cromweirs time, when some
Boldiers ruthlessly cut them down.
In the Note by Me. J. G. Gumming, a derivation
18 evidently required for the English word yeo-
man, which he suggests is taken from '* yokeman."
Teoman is from eo, pronounced yo, i. e. free,
worthy, respectable, as opposed to the terms
viUein^ serf, &c. ; so that yeoman means a freeman,
a respectable person. Fras. Cbosslet.
OSBOBN FAMILY.
(Vol. viiL, p. 270.)
Mb. H. T. Griffith asks where may any pedi-
gjree of the Osborrie family, previous to Edward
Osborne, the ancestor of the Dukes of Leeds, be
seen. In reply, I am in possession of large collec-
tions relating to the Norman Osbornes, from whom
I have reasons to believe him to have been de-
scended. Those Osbornes can be proved to have
been settled in certain of the midland counties of
England from the time of the attainder and down-
fall of the son of William Fitzosborne, Earl of
Hereford and premier peer, down to a compara-
tively late period. A branch of them was pos-
sessed of the manor of Eelmarsh in Northampton-
•hire ; and their pedigree, beginning in 1461, may
be seen in Whalley's Northamptonshire : but this
16 necessarily very imperfect, on account of the
author's want of access to documents which have
subsequently been opened to the public.
I may here notice that an inexcusable error has
been committed and repeated in several of the
collections of records published by the Parliament-
ary Commission, who have, in numerous instances,
and without any warrant, interpreted Osb, of the
MSS. as "Osbert." Thus they have deprived
Fitzosborne, Bishop of Exeter (a.d. 1102), of some
of his manors, and within his own diocese, and
conferred them on Osbert the Bishop, although
there never was a bishop of that name in England.
I took the liberty of pointing out this error to one
of the chief editors concerned in these works ;
but as he has taken no notice of my observations,
I must infer that he thinks it most prudent to
excite no farther inquiry.
The Osboms, now so numerous in London,
appear to have come from the Danish stem from
which the Norman branch was originally derived.
Their number, which has increased even beyond
the ordinary ratio of the population, may perhaps
be dated from the wife of one of them who (temp.
Jac. I.) had twenty-four sons, and was interred in
old St. Paul's.
I shall be very happy to afford any assistance in
my power to the gentleman who has occasioned
tkesQ remarks. Omicbon.
INSCBIPTIONS ON BBIXS.
(Vol.vi., p. 554. ; Vol. vii., pp. 454. 603.; VoL viii.,
pp. 108. 248.)
Many thanks are due to your correspondent
CuTHBEBT Bede, B.A., for his interesting series
of inscriptions on bells. The following are, I
think, sufficiently curious to be added to your
collection : —
Kouen Cathedral :
** In the steeple of the great church, in the cltie of
Roane in Normandy, is one great bell with the Jike
inscription.** [Like, that is, to the inscription at
St. Stephen's, Westminster : see " N. & Q.,* VoL viii.,
p. 108.]
** Je suis George de Ambols,
Qui trente-cinque mille pois ;
Mes luis qui me pesera,
Trente-six mille me trouvera.**
** I am George of Ambois,
Thir tie-five thousand in pois ;
But he that shall weigh me,
Thirty-six thousand shall find me.**
Weever, Fun, Mon„ edit fol. 1631, p. 492.
St. Matthew, Great Milton, Oxfordshire :
1. " I as treble begin.
3. " I was third ring.
8. ( Great bell) ** I to church the living call, and to
the grave do summons.**
Inscription suggested as being suitable for six
bells, in the JScclesiologist (New Series), vol. i.
p. 209. :
L "Ave Pater, Rex, Creator :
2. Ave Fili, Lux, Salvator:
3. Ave Pax et Charitas.
4. Ave Simplex, Ave Trine;
5. Ave Regnans sine fine,
6. Ave Sancta Trinitas.**
Inscriptions are often to be found in Lombardic
characters, and on bells of great antiquity. Can
any of your ecclesiological correspondents furnish
me with the date of the earliest known example ?
W. Spab&ow Sibcpson.
On bells in Southrepps Church, Norfolk ;
<< Tuba ad Juditium. Campana ad Ecelesiam, 1641.*'
" Miserere mei Jhesus Nazarenus Rex Judaeorum.**
J. L. SiSSON.
LADIES* ARMS BORNE IS A L0ZBN6B.
(Vol. viii., pp. 37. 83. 277. 329.)
I broached a theory with a concluding remark
that it would give me great pleasure to see one
more reasonable take its place. I fear that, if all
your readers anxious to clear up an obscure
point in an interesting science take no more
trouble than P. P., we shall find ourselves no
Nov. 5. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
449
nearer our object in tlie middle of your eightieth
volume than we are now in your eighth.
What P. P. is pleased to term the " routine "
reason is after all but one among many, and is
not better substantiated than some of the others
quoted by me; for though the lozenge has a
" supposed " resemblance to the distaff or fusil,
heraldically it is but a supposed one, and by most
writers the difference is very distinctly indicated.
Boyer says :
" A fusil is a bearing in heraldry made in the form
of a spindle, with its yarn or thread wound about it.
Fusils are longer than lozenges, and taper or pointed at
both ends."
The same author thus describes a lozenge :
** A Rhimbus, in geometry, is a figure of four
equal and parallel sides, but not rectangular."
Robson says :
" Fusil, a kind of spindle used in spinning. Its
formation should be particularly attended to, as few
painters or engravers make a sufficient distinction between
the fusil and lozenge,**
Nisbet describes a lozenge to be —
** A figure that has equal sides and Unequal angles,
as the quarry of a glass window placed erect point ways."
He adds :
" The Latins say, ' Lozengae factas sunt ad modum
lozanglorura in vltreis.* Heralds tell us that their use
in armories came from the pavement of marble stones
of churches, fine palaces and houses, cut after the form
of lozenges, which pavings the French and Italians
call loze and the Spaniards loza,**
Sylvester de Petra-Sancta of the lozenge says
much the same :
<< Scutulas oxigonias scu acutangulus erectas, et
quasi gradiles, referri debere ad latericias et antiquas
domus olim, viz. Nobilium quia vulgus, et infamiae
sortis homines, intra humiles casus, vel antra inhabi-
tantur."
Of the fusil Nisbet writes :
" The fusil is another Rhombular figure like the
lozenge, but more long than broad, and its upper and
lower points are more acute than the two side points."
He adds that :
** Chassanus and others make their sides round, as in
his description of them : * Fusae sunt acutae in supe-
riore et inferiore partibus.et rotundas ex utroque latere ;*
which description has occasioned some English heralds,
when so painted or engraven, to call them millers*
picks, as Sir John Boswell, in his Concords of Armory,
and others, to call them weavers* shuttles.**
Menestrier says of lozenges :
** Lozange est une figure de quatre pointes, dont
deux sont un peu plus ^tendues que les autres, et
assise sur une de ces pointes. C'est le Rhomb des
math^maticiens, et les quarreaux des yitres ordinaires
en ont la figure.**
Of fusils :
" Fusees sont plus 6tendues en longue que les
lozanges, et afifUees en point comms les fuseaux.
Elles sont pieces d'architecture ou Ton se sert pour
ornement de fusees et de pesons."
The celebrated Boke of St. Albans (1486) thus
describes the difference between a lozenge and
fusil :
** Knaw ye y" differans betwix ffusillis and losyng.
Wherefore it is to be knaw that ffusillis ar euermore
long, also fusyllis ar strattyr ouerwart in the baly then
ar mascules. And mascules ar larger ou*wartt in the
baly, and shorter in length than be fusyllis."
The mascle is afterwards explained to be the
lozenge pierced. Again :
** And ye most take thys for a general enforraacion
and instruccion that certanli losyng eu*more stand
upright .... and so withpwte dowte we have the
differans of the foresayd signes, that is to wete of
mascules and losynges."
Dallaway, an elegant writer on Heraldry, says :
** Of the lozenge the following extraordinary descrip-
tion is given in a MS. of Glover, * Lozenga est pars
vitri in vitrea fenestra.* But it may be more satisfac-
tory to observe that the lozenge, with its diminutive,
are given to females instead of an escocheon for the
insertion of their armorial bearings, one of which is
supposed to have been a cushion of that shape, and the
other is evidently the spindle used in spinning ; both
demonstrative of the sedentary employments of women.
On a very splendid brass for Eleanor, relict of Thomas
of Woodstocke, who died 1384, she is delineated as
resting her head upon two cushions, the upper of which
is placed lozenge-wise.'*— P. 140.
The above is taken from his Miscellaneous Oh"
servations on Heraldic Ensigns.^ the following &om
the body of his great work:
<* Females being heirs, or conveying feodal lordships
to their husbands, had, as early as the thirteenth century,
the privilege of armorial seals. The variations were
progressive and frequent ; at first the female effigy had
the kirtle or inner garment emblazoned, or held the
escocheon over her head, V}r in her right hand ; then
three escocheons met in the centre, or four were joined
at their bases, if the alliance admitted of so many.
Dimidiation, accollation, and impalement succeeded
each other at short intervals. But the modern practice
of placing the arms of females upon a lozenge appears
to have originated about the middle of the fourteenth
century, when we have an instance of five lozenges
conjoined upon one seal ; that of the heir female in the
centre impaling the arms of her husband, and sur-
rounded by those of her ancestors.'* — P. 400.
I think this quotation from so learned a writer
goes far towards settling the whole question. I
confess myself willing to have my theory placed
second to this, while I must discard the '* distaff**
4A0
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 2ia
notioBv unless better substantiated thaa b^ the
French saying from their Sali<jue law, which I
here give for P. P/s information : " Nunquam
corona a lance transibit ad fusum." I am willing
to admit the antiquity of this notion ; for while
the shape of the man*s shield is traced by Sylvanus
Morgan to Adam*s spade, he takes the woman*i3
from Eve's spindle I
<* When Adam delved, and Eve span.
Who was then the gentleman ? **
In Greofiry Chaucer's time the lozense anneurs
to have been an ornament worn by neralas in
their dress or crown. In describing the habit of
oae^ he says :
** They crowned were as kinges
With crowns wrought full of loienges
And many ribbons and many fringes.**
As for the difference between the lozenge and
fusil, I could multiply opinions and esamples, but
hope those given will be sufficient.
I cannot conclude these few hasty remarks
without expressing a wish that one of your corre-
spondents m particular would take up this sub-
ject, to handle which in a masterly manner, his
position is a guaranty of his ability. I refer to
the gentleman holding the office of X ork Herald.
B&OCTUNA.
Bury, Lancashire.
TSI MTBTLI BBB.
(Vol. viii., p»lT8w)'
From a very early period, and throughout life, I
hanre been, accustomed to shooting, and well re»
member the bird in question, but whether the term
was local or general, I am unable to state, never
having met with it save in one Locality; and
many years have elapsed since I saw one, although
in the habit of frequenting the neighbourhood
where it was originally to be seen. I attribute its
disappearance to local causes. I met with it
dormg a series of years, ending about twenty-five
years since, at which period I lost sight of it. It
was to be met with during the autumn and winter
in. bogs scattered over with bog myrtle, on Chob-
ham and the adjacent common ; I never met with
it c^where. It is solitary. I am unacquainted
with its food, and only in a single instance had I
ever one in my hand. Its tongue is pointed^ sharps
and appearing capable of penetration. Its colour
throughout dusky light blue, slightly tinged with
yellow about the vent. Tail about one inch,
being rather long in proportion to the body,
causing the wings to appear forward, with a mi-
niature pheasant-like appearance aa it flew, or
rather darted, from bush to bush, with amazii^
^ckness, its wings moving with rapidity, straight
in its flight, keepmg near the groundy appearing
loth to wing, never passing an intenrening bush if
ever so near ; and I never saw one fly over eisht
or ten yards, and never wing a second time, whueh
induced our dogs (usinff a sporting phrase) to
puazle them, causing a oelief that they were ia
most instances trodd^ under the water and graaa
in which the myrtle grew, and which nothing but
a dog could approach. I never saw one sitting
or li^t on a branch of the myrtle, but invariably
flying from the base of one plant to that of an-
other. I am not aware that any cabinet contains
a preserved specimen, or that the bird has ever
been noticed by any naturalist as a British or
foreign bird.
Should W. R. D. S. covet farther information as
to the probable cause of its disappearance, and my
never naving met with it elsewhere, perhaps he
will favour me with his address. I cannot think
the bird extinct. C. Bbowk.
Egham, Surrey.
CAPTAIN JOHN DAVIS.
(Vol. viii., p. 385.)
The earliest memoir of captain John Davis, the
celebrated arctic navigator, is that given by the
reverend John Prince m his D anmonii orientaijm
ILLUSTBES, or the worthies ofDevon^ Exeter, 1701,
folio. It b, however, erroneous and defective in
important particulars, and has misled some eminent
writers, as Campbell, Eyri^ Barrow, &c.
Despite the assertions of master Prince, I ques^
Hon if captain Davis married a daughter of sir
John Fulmrd ; I am sure he was not the first pilot
who conducted the Hollanders to the East-Indies ;
I am sure the journal of the voyage is not printed
in Hakluyt ; I am sure the narrative of his voyage
with sir Edward Midielbome is neither dedicated
to the earl of Essex nor printed in Hakluyt ; I ttat
sure he did not write the RtUtery or brie/ cUrecHan^
for saUing* into the JEast' Indies ; I am sure he wrote
two works of which Prince says nothing ; I am
sure he did not make Jive voyages to the East-
Indies ; and I am sure, to omit other oversights,
that he did not "return home safe again.** To
the latter point I shall now confine myself.
In 1604 king James, regardless of the charter
held by the East-India company, granted a license
to sir Edward Michelbome, one of hia ffentlemen-
pensioners, to discover and trade with the " couo>-
tries and domynions of Cathaia, China, Japan^**
&c. This license, preserved in the Rolls-chapel,
is dated the twenty-fifth of June. On the fifth of
December sir Edward set sail from Cowes with
the Tiger, a ship of 240 tons, and a pinnace --
captain Davis being, as I conceive, the second in
command. In December 1605, being near the
island of Bintang, they fell in with a junk of
70 tonS) carrying ninety Jiq^ese, most of them
Nov. fL 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERISa
451
'^in too gallant a habit for sajlers :" in fact, tliej
were pirates ! The unfortunate result shall now
be stated in the words of ih& pirate Michelbome :
** Vpon mutuall courtesies with gifts and feastings
betweene vs, sometimes fiue and twentie or snEe and
twentie of their chieftist came aboord : whereof I
would not suffer aboue sixe to haue weapons. Their
was neuer the like number of our men aboord their
iunke. I willed captaine John Dauis in the morning
[the twenty-seventh of December] to possesse himselfe
of their weapons, and to put the companie before mast,
and to leave some guard on their weapons, while they
searched in the rice, doubting that by searching, and
finding that which would dislike them, they might
suddenly set vpon my men, and put them to tlie
sword : as the sequell prooued. Captaine Dauis being
beguiled with their humble semblance, would not pos-
sesse hiraselfe of their weapons, though I sent twice of
purpose from my shippe to will him to doe it. They
passed all the day, my men searching in the rice, and
they looking on : at the sunne-setting, after long search
and nothing found, saue a little storax and beniamin :
they seeing oportunitie, and talking to the rest of their
companie which were in my ship, being neere to their
iunke, they resolued, at a watch-word betweene them,
to set vpon vs resolutely in both ships. This being
concluded, they suddenly killed and droue ouer-boord,
all my men that were in their ship ; and those which
were aboord my ship sallied out of my cabbin, where
they were put, with such weapons as they had, finding
certaine targets in my cabbin, and other things that they
Tsed as weapons. My selfe being aloft on the decke,
knowing what was likely to follow, leapt into the
waste, where, with the boate swaines, carpenter and
some few more, wee kept them vnder the halfe-decke.
At their first comming forth of the cabbin, they met
captaine Dauis comming out of the gun-room e, whom
they pulled into the cabbin, and gluing him sixe or
seuen mortall wounds, they thrust him out of the
cabbin before tliem. His wounds were so mortall,
that he dyed assoone as he came into the waste." —
Purehas, L 137,
BOLTOK COBKBT.
PHOTOOBAPHIC COBBESPOHBEKCB.
Clouds in Photographs, — I wish one of your
Ehotographic correspondents would inform me,
ow clouds can be put into photographs taken on
paper? Mr. Buckle's photographs all contain
clouds f 2.
" The Stereoscope considered in relation to the
Philosophy of Binocular Vision " is the title of a
small pamphlet written by a frequent contributor
to this journal, Mb. C. Majksfibld Inglbbt, in
which he has '^ attempted to sketch out such
modifications of the theory of double vision as
appear to him to be entailed on the rationale of
the stereoscope.*' The corroboration thus indi-
rectly afforded to the principles of Sir William
Hamilton'a Pkdaaophy of Perception has induced
Mb. Inglsby to dedicate his work to that distin-
guished metaphysician* The essay will, we have
no doubt, be perused with great interest by maaj
of our photographic firiends, for whose gratificatioa
we shall borrow its concluding paragraph.
** In conclusion we must not forget to acknowledge
our obligations to the photographic art, not merely as
one of the most suggestive results of natural science,
but as a means of the widest and soundest utility. To
antiquaries the services of photography have a unique
value, for, by perpetuating in the form of negatives
those monuments of nature and art which, though
exempt firom common accident, are still subject to
gradual decay fi'om time, it places in the hands of us
all microscopically exact antitypes of objects wfaiefa^
from change or distance, are otherwise inaccessible.
To the artist they afford the means of facilitating tbe
otherwise laborious, and often mechanieal, task d
drawing in detail firom nature and firom the humaat
figure.
" To the physician, to tiie naturalist, and to the vaam
of science, the uses of photography are various and im-
portant, and already the discoveries which have bem
directly due to this modern art are of stupendous
utility.
^ To the metapbysieiany its uses may be suffieientfj
gleaned from the applications considered in the pre-
ceding pages» But to all these classes of men the pb^
tographic art derives its chief glory from its application
to the stereoscope; and i^ by elucidating the prin-
ciples of vision by meana of this application, we have
in any degree given a stimulus to the practice and im-
provement of the photographic processes, our paiiMi
have been happily and fruitfiilly bestowed."
MuUer's Processes, — Would yon ii^bnn me^,
through the medium of ** N. & Q..,'* what mima-'.
facture of paper is best adapted to the two pro-
cesses of Mr. Muller ? I haye tried several : with
some I find that the combination of their starck
with the iodide of iron causes a dark precipitate
upon the face of the paper ; and with those papcts
prepared with size, there appears to me great
difficulty (in his improyed process afler the paper
is moistened with aceto-nitrate of siWer) to procure
an e<^ual distribution of the iodide oyer its surface^
, as it mvariably dries or runs off parts of tiie psmer^
or is repelled by spots of size on the paper when
dipped m the iodide of iron bath. — ^A reply to the
foregoing question would greatly oblige
A Constant Beasbb.
Essex.
Positives on Glass. — Sometimes, when your sitter
is gone, and you hold your portrait up to the light
to examine its density, you find in the face and
other parts which are dark, so yiewed, minute
transparent specks, scarcely bigger than a pin*ft
point. When the picture is backed with mack
lacquer, you have consequently small blach spoti»
which deform the positive, especially when viewed
through a lens of short focus. A friend of mine
452
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 210.
cures this defect very easily. After having ap-
plied the amber varnish, he stops out the spots
with a little oil-paint that matches the lights of the
picture ; of course the paint is put upon the var-
nished side of the glass. When the paint is dry,
the black lacquer is carried over tne whole as
msual. T. D. Eaton.
Norwich.
Peculiar Ornament in Crosthwaite Church
(Vol. viii., p. 200.). — I am exceedingly obliged to
Chevebells for his reply to my Query. I am
sorry to say that I failed to make a note of the
number of the circles ; but, as far as I can re-
member, there are six windows in each aisle, so
in all there would be twenty-four, each window
having two carved upon it, one on the right jamb
without, and the other on the left within.
R. W. Elliot.
Clifton.
Nursery Rhymes (Vol. viii., p. 455.). — I would
suggest to L. that a consideration of rhymes may
sometimes indicate, by the change in the pronun-
ciation, the antiquity of the verse : e, g.^
** Hush aby, baby, on the green bough.
When the wind blows the cradle will rock,
And when the bough breaks/' &c.
Here, according to modern pronunciation, the
rhymes of the first couplet are imperfect, so that
it was probably composed in the Saxon era, or
while the word bough was still pronounced bog or
hock, if, R.
MiUorCs Widow (Vol. vii., p. 596. ; Vol. viii.,
pp. 12. 134. 200.). — Reading up my arrears of
" K". & Q.," which a long absence from England
has caused to accumulate, I find frequent inquiries
made for some information which I once promised,
relative to Milton's widow. I fear that your cor-
respondents on this subject have formed an exag-
gerated idea of the importance of the expected
note, and that they will see but a " ridiculus
mus** after all. As I have no means at hand at
the present moment wherewith to attempt to elu-
cidate the Minshull genealogy, I shall content
myself by simply sending my original notes,
namely, brief abstracts of the wills of Thomas and
Nathan Paget preserved at Doctors' Commons.
Thomas Paget, minister of the gospel at Stock-
port, in Cheshire, makes his will May 23, 1660;
mentions his three daughters Dorothy, Elizabeth,
and Mary ; and leaves estates at different places
in Shropshire to his two sons. Dr. Nathan and
Thomas, whom he appoints his executors. He en-
treats his cousin Minshull^ apothecarie in Man"
Chester, to be overseer of his will, which was
proved October 16, 1660.
[I have before (Vol. v., p. 327.) shown the con-
nexion between the Pagets and Manchester.]
Nathan Paget, Doctor in Medicine, will dated
January 7, 1678, was then living in the parbh of
St. Stephanas, Coleman Street, London, leaves
certain estates, and his house in London where he
resided, to his brother Thomas Paget, clerk. Be-
quests to his cousin John Goldsmith of the Middle
Temple, gent., and his cousin Elizabeth Milton, to
the Society of Physicians, and the poor of the
parish of St. Stephen's. Will proved January 15,
1678.
I have omitted to note what the bequests were.
I will only add, that some time ago I dropped mj
alias of Cbanmore, and have occasionally appeared
in your sixth Volume as Abthub Paget.
Watch-paper Inscriptions (Vol. viii., p. 316.).
— ^I recollect, when at school, having an old silver
watch with the following printed lines inside the
case :
" Time is — the present moment well employ ;
Time was — is past — thou canst not it enjoy ;
Time future — is not, and may never be ;
Time present — is the only time for thee."
Jno. D. Allcboft.
Poetical Tavern Signs (Vol. viii., p. 242.). -—
May I add to those mentioned by your corre-
spondent Mb. Wabde, one at Chatham. On the
sign-board is painted " an arm embowed, holding
a malt-shovel, underneath which is written, —
** Good malt makes good beer,
Walk in, and you'll find it here."
G. Bbindlet Acwobth.
Star Hill, Rochester.
At a small inn in Castleton, near Whitby, the
sign represents Kobin Hood and Little John in
their usual forest costume, and underneath appear
the following doggerel lines :
'* To gentlemen and yeomen good,
Come in and drink with Robin Hood ;
If Robin Hood is not at home.
Come in and drink with Little John.**
F.M.
Parish Clerks^ Company (Vol. viii., p. 341. )• —
The hall is in Silver Street, Wood Street; the
beadle is Mr.Bullard, No. 9. Grocers' Hall Court,
Poultry.
If the circulars of the company were attended
to, a great service would be rendered to the
public ; but as there are about one hundred and
sixty churches in the metropolis, the chance of
a parish clerk finding any particular marriage, &c.
is, at the best, but as one to one hundred and
sixty. Besides this, the parish registers are ge-
nerally in the custody of the clergyman, and it is
therefore feared that the searches are but too often
Nov, 6. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
453
neglected, unless the reward is sufficiently tempt-
ing to induce the loss of time and the probability
of an unsuccessful examination. John S. Bubn.
« ElijaKs Mantle " (Vol. viii., p. 295.). — James
Sayers, Esq^, a solicitor of Staple Inn, was the
author of this beautiful poem, and he was also the
reputed author of some of Gilray*s best caricatures.
SUUM CUIQUE.
Histories of Literature (Vol. viii., p. 222.). —
In addition to the works of HuUani, Maitland, and
Berrington mentioned by you, I would recom-
mend your correspondent Ii^monastebieksis to
procure an anonymous publication, entitled An
Introduction to the Literary History of the Four*
teenth and Fifteenth Centuries, London, 1798, 8vo.
It is a much neglected work, replete with interest-
ing information relative to the state of literature
during the dark ages. I observe a copy in calf,
marked 4s. 6d, in a bookseller*s catalogue pub-
lished lately in this city. T. G. S.
Edinburgh.
Birthplace of General Monk (Vol.'viii., p. 316.).
— I regret to find I am in error in saymg that
Lysons positively assigns Landcross as Monk*s
birthplace in the Magna Britannia.
The mistake is of slight import as respects the
Query, but accuracy m citing authorities is at
least desirable, and ought (in common justice) to
be ever most scrupulously regarded.
*' General Monk appears to have been a native
of this village ; he was baptized at Lancras, De-
cember 11, 1608," is, I find, the actual passage,
the substance of which (writing in Germany, far
from any means of reference), I at the time be-
lieved I was more correctly quoting.
F. KyrpiN Lenthall.
Reform Club.
Books chained to Desks in Churches (Vol. viii.,
pp. 93. 273.). — In the library of St. Walburg's
Church at Zutphen, consisting chiefly of Bibles
and other Latin works, the books are fastened to
the desks by iron chains. This was done, it is
said, to prevent the Evil One from stealing them,
a crime of which he had been repeatedly guilty.
The proof of this is found in the stone-floor,
where his foot-marks are impressed, and still
show the direction of his march : they also teach
us the important fact, that the feet of his tene-
brious majesty are very like those of a large dog,
and do not, as is generally supposed, resemble
those of a horse. — ^From the Navorscher.
L. V. H.
In the chancel of Leyland Church, Lancashire,
are four folio books chained to a window seat
which makes a sloping desk for them: they are
Foxe*s Martyrs and Jewell's Apology, both in
black-letter, title-pages torn, and much worn ;
and a Preservative against Popery^ in 2 vols.,
dated 1738. P. P.
A copy of the Bible was formerly affixed by a
chain in Wimborne Minster, Dorset, but has
been removed to a certain library.
The covers of a book are chained to a desk in
the church of Kettering ; the book itself is gone.
B. H. C«
In the parish church of Borden, near Sitting-
bourne, Kent, a copy of Comber on the Common
Prayer is chained to a stand in the chancel.
ESTA,
Pedigree Indices (Vol. viii., p. 317.). — If CJlp-
TAiN wishes to make a search for a pedigree in
the libraries at Cambridge, he will learn from the
MSS. Catalogue of 1697 in which of the libraries
MS. volumes of heraldry and genealogy ought to
be found; he should then apply, either through
some master of arts, or with a proper letter of
introduction in his hand, to the librarian for leave
to search the volumes. He will find that generally
every facility is aflbrded him which the safe keep-
ing of historical evidences allows. He will do well
to select term-time for the period of making a
search ; and before seeking admission to a college
librarian, it will be found convenient to both
parties for him to give a day's notice, by letter or
card, to the librarian, who has oflen occupations
and engagements that cannot always be got rid of
at the call of a chance visitor. Cantab.
There are not any published genealogical
tables showing the various kindred of William of
Wykeham or Sir Thomas White similar to those
contained in the Stemmata Chicheliana. A few
descents of kindred of Sir Thomas White may be
seen in Ashmole*8 History of Berkshire, 3 vols.
8vo. G.
Portrait ofHobbes (Vol. viii., p. 368.).— I have
an etching (size about 6^ in. by 8} in.) inscribed :
<'Vera et Viva Effigies Thom^e Hobbes, Malmes-
buriensis."
and under this :
" I. Bapt. Caspar pinxit ; W. Hollar fecit aqua forti,
1665."
It is a half-length portrait, and represents
Hobbes uncovered, with his hands folded in his
robe ; and is without any arch or other ornament.
Did Caspar paint more than one portrait of
Hobbes ? Is this the one mentioned by Hollar, in
his letter dated 1661, quoted by Mb. Singee.
Wm. M'Cssb.
Tenets or Tenents (Vol. vii., p. 205. ; Vol. viii.,
p. 330.). — Were there two editions of the Vu^ar
Errors published in the same year, 1646 ? For
my copy, " printed by T. H. for Edward Dod, and
454
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 210.
are to be sold in Ivie L«&e, 1646,** and which I
have always supposed to be of the first edition, has
" Tenents, very distinctly, on the title-page. On
the fly-leaf, opposite to Uie title-page, is the ap-
probation of John Downame, dated March 14,
1645, and commencing thus :
** I have perused these learned animadversions upon
tile common tenets and opinions of men/* &c.
H. T. G.
Hull
Door-head InacripHons (Vol. vii,, pp. 28. 190.
588.; Vol. viii., pp.88. 162.). — Over a house in
Hexham, in the street called Gilligate, is the fol-
lovrang inscription :
«C D. 168S. J. D.
Reason doth wonde^ but Faith he tell can.
That a maid was a mother, and God was a man.
Liet Reason look down, and Faith see the wonder ;
For Faith sees above, and Reason sees under.
Reason doth wonder what by Scripture is meant,
Which says that Christ*s body is our Sacrament :
That our bread is His body, and our drink is His
blood,
Which cannot by Reason be well understood ;
For Faith sees above, and P^eason below.
For Faith can see more than Reason doth know.**
Cetbep.
The following is reported to have been inscribed
by the Pope (1725) over the gate of the Aposto-
lioai Chancery :
** Fide Deo — die ssepe preces — peccare caveto— -
Sit humilis — pacem delige— magna fuge —
Multa audi — die pauca — tace secreta — rainori
Farcito — > majori cedito — ferto parem.
Propria fac — non differ opus — sis asquus egeno-—
Psrta tuere — pati disce — memento mori.**
H. T. Ellacombs.
HouT'glass Stand C^ol. vii., p. 489. ; Vol. viii.,
pp, 82. 209. 828.). — There is an hour-glass stand
attached to the right-hand side of the pnlpit of
Edingthorpe Church, Norfolk. The date of the
pulpit is 1632. I. L. S.
Buhirode Whitlock and Whitelocke Bulstrode
S^ol. viii., p. 298.).--Bulsti'ode Whitlock was
e son of Sir James Whitlock, Kt., by Elizabeth,
dan^xter of Edward Bulstrode, of Hedglev-Bul-
Btrode, in the county of Buckingham ; and White-
locke Bulstrode was the son of Sir Richard, eldest
son of the above-mentioned Edward Bulstrode.
(See Lives of the Lords Chancellors^ ^c, by an
Impartial Hand, vol. ii. p. 1.; and Chalmerses
Biographical Dictionary.) 'AXietJs.
Dublin.
Movable Metal Types anno 1435 (Vol. vii.,
p. 405.).^ — Although 1 am not able to give any
aafermation concerning Sister Margarite, or the
conyent at Mnr, I yet nay obserre, 1st, that <lie
last three letters of the legend • - k can hardly
refer to Laurens Janrroon Coster, for his name
in 1435 was never spelt with k, but always with c ;
and, besides, if a proper name be here intended,
it will certainly be that of the binder. 2ndly, that
in the catalogue of the Haarlem City Library,
from p. 77. to 112., mention is made of six works,
which, though bearing no date, were, it is more
than probable, printed with movable metal types
before 1435. One of these, Aelii Donati Oram"
matica Lc^inm Fragmenta cbco, was printed before
1425, and the writer of the catalogue adds in hif
notes:
« Ipsos typos, quibus hae lamellae sunt excusae, fuisse
mchiUst cum nonnullaB litcrae inversae evidenter testantnr,
tum omnium expertissimormn typographorum reiqne
typographical peritissimorum arbitrum, qui has lam-
nias contemplati sunt, unanima et oonstans affirmavit
sententia. Quin et/kao* eos esse perhibuernnt pluiim^
et in his Koningius, magno quamvis studio negavecak
typorum ligneorum mobilium acerrimus propugnator
Meermannus.**
From the Navorscher,
CONSTAIITKB.
Oaken Tcmbs (Vol. vii., p. 528. ; Vol. viiL,
p. 179.). — In the chancel of Brancepeth Chnrch,
00. Durham, are oaken effigies of a Lord and Lady
Neville, of which the following is a descripticm.
The figure of the man is in a coat of mul, the
hands elevated with gauntlets, wearing his casque,
which rests on a bull's or buffalo's head, a collar
round his nedc studded with gems, and on the
breast a shield with the arms of Neville. The
female figure has a high crowned bonnet, and the
mantle is drawn close over the feet, which rest on
two dogs couchant. The tomb is ornamented with
small ^ures of ecclesiastics at prayer, but is with-
out inscription. Leland (/h'n., i. 8.0.) says :
** In the paroche chirch of Saint Brandon, at Brans-
peth, be dyvers tumbes of the Nevilles. In the quire
is a high tumbe, of one of them porturid with his wife.
This Neville lakkid heires male, wherapoan great con-
certation rose betwixt the next hcire male, and one of
the Gascoynes."
CuTHBBBT Beds, B.A«
Stafford Knot (Vol. viii., p. 220.). — It was the
badge or cognisance of the house of Stafford,
Earls of Stafford. Hsnbt Gouoh.
Emberton, Bucks.
Hand in Bishop's Cannings Church (VoL viiL,
p. 269.). — See an article on this " JVIanus Medi*
tationis,** with a copy of the inscription, in the
Ecclesiologisty vol. v. p. 150. Henby Gough.
Emberton, Bucks.
Arms of Richard, King ofiS^ RouMMt (Vol. Tm.,
p. 265.). — I think it might be proved that the
border refws not to Foitou (wludi is represented
Nov. 5. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
4S6
by the crowned lion), but to ComwaU, tbe ancient
feudal arms of which are SahU^ fifteen hezants, re-
ferring, as it would seem, to its metallic treasures.
See an article on the numerous arms derived from
those of this Richard, in the appendix to Mr.
Lower's Curiosities of Heraldry, Hshxy Oouoh.
£mberton, Bucks.
Burial in an erect Posiiion (VoLviii., pp.59.
233.). — So Ben Jonson was buried at West-
minster, probably on account of the large fee de-
manded for a full-sized grave. It was long sup-
posed by many that the story was invented to
account for the smallness of the gravestone ; but
the grave being opened a few years ago, the dra-
matist's remains were discovered in the attitude
indicated by tradition. Hekbt Gough.
Emberton, Budks.
In the IngoMshy Legends^ vol. i. p. 106., we
have:
" No 1 — Tray's humble tomb would look bat shabby
'Mid the sculptured shrines of that gorgeous Abbey.
Besides, in the place
They say there's not space
To bury what wet-nurses call *a Babby.'
Even < rare Ben Jonson,* that famous wight,
I am told, is interr'd there bolt upright,
In just such a posture, beneath his bust.
As Tray used to sit in to beg for a crust."
Is there any authority for the statement ?
Erica.
Wooden Effigies (Vol. viii., p. 255.). — These
are by no means uncommon, though it is to be
feared that many have perished wiuiin compara-
tively recent times. In the church of Clifton
Reynes, Bucks, there are wooden effigies of two
knights of the Keynes family with their wives.
HSNBT OOUGH.
Emberton, Bucks.
Wedding Divination (VoL vii., p. 545.). — The
following mediaeval superstition may be quoted as
a pretty exact parallel of the wedding divination
alluded to by Oxonisnsis. It is from Wright's
selection of Latin stories of the thirteenth and
fourteenth centuries, Harl. MS. 463. : —
** Vidi in quibusdam partibus, quando mulieres nu-
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Voi.,VlIL — No.211.
NOTES ON GRAMMONT.
Agreeinoj with Mr. Peter Cunningham (vide
History of Nell Gwyn)^ that a new edition of
Grammont is much wanted, I beg to avail myself
of your pages, and to offer a few remarks and
notes which I have made in reference to that very
entertaining work for the consideration of a future
annotator.
Of the several maids of honour mentioned there-
in I will begin with those of the queen. They are
Miss Stewart, Miss " Warminster," Miss Bellen-
den, Miss Bardon, Miss de la Garde, Miss Wells,
Miss Livingston, Miss Fielding, and Miss Boyn-
ton.
The names of Miss Stewart (Frances Theresa),
Miss Boynton (Catherine), Miss Wells (Wine-
fred), and Miss Warmistre are found among the
original six, appointed on the queen's marriage,
May 21, 1662. The affiliation and marriages of
the first two have been well ascertained; but Miss
Warmistre's birth is yet open to some conjecture,
whilst her marriage, like Miss Wells's parentage, is
wholly unknown.
Horace Walpole, on the authority of the last
Earl of Arran, of the Butler family, has con-
founded her with Mary, one of the daughters of
George Kirke, E.«q., a groom of the bedchamber
to Charles I., by Mary his wife, daughter of Aure-
lian Townsend, Esq., " the admired beauty of the
tymes," on whose marriage at Christ Church,
Oxford, February 26, 1645-6, "the king gave
her." She herself was maid of honour to the
Duchess of York in 1674, and the year following
left the court, we may believe, under the same
circumstances as Miss Warmistre, more than ten
years before, had quitted it : after being the mis-
tress of Sir Thomas Vernon, the second Baronet
of Hodnet in Shropshire, she became his wife, and
ended her life in miserable circumstances at Green-
wich in 1711.
" 171 1, 17 August, Dame Mary, relict of Sir TlioiVias
Vernon, carried away." — Burial register of Greenwich
Church.
She was sister to Diana, the last De Vere, Earl
of Oxford's, countess, a lady of as free a morality
462
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[No. 211.
as herself and as her mother, and second wife of
Sir Thomas, whose first lady, Elizabeth Chol-
mondley, died in June, 1676. Sir Thomas died
Februarys, 1682-3, leaving by her three children,
Sir Richard, the last baronet, Henrietta, and Diana,
who all died unmarried.
A portrait of Lady Vernon, by Sir Peter Lely,
has been engraved in mezzotinto by Browne, and
lettered "Mary Kirk, Lady Vernon, maid of
honour to Queen Catherine." Another portrait (?)
has been engraved by Scheneker for Harding's
Orammont^ 1793. A third portrait was purchased
at the Strawberry Hill sale, by Mr. Rodd of Little
Newport Street, for \L 5s,
A portrait of the Countess of Oxford is or was
at Mr. Drummond*s of Great Stanmore. It was
bequeathed to his family by Charles, first Duke of
St. Alban*s, who was her ladyship's son-in-law.
Of Mrs. Anne Kirke, who was " woman to the
queen" Henrietta Maria, there are several por-
traits. Granger records :
" Madam Kirk. Vandyck p. Gaywood f. h. sh.
** Madam Anne Kirk. Vandyck p. Browne, large b.
sh. mezz."
These engravings are most probably from the
same painting — the fine whole-length exhibited last
year among the collection of pictures by ancient
masters in rail Mall :
*« Madam Kirk, sitting in a chair, Hollar, f. h. sh.**
He also mentions her miniature at Burghley.
There is at Wilton a splendid painting by Van-
dyck of Mrs. Kirk, seated with the Countess of
Morton, Lady Anne Keith, eldest daughter of
George, fifth Earl Mareschal, and wife of William
Douglass, seventh Earl of Morton, K.G. She was
governess to the Princess Henrietta.
This painting has been engraved by Grousvelt.
There is another engraving from the first-named
Vandyck by Beckett.
Of Lady Vernon and her mother there is to be
found mention, in the secret service expenses of
Charles 11. and James II., lately printed. The
elder lady on her husband's death (he was buried
in the cloisters of Westminster Abbey, April 5,
1679) seems to have had a pension of 250/. per
annum. The younger was the recipient, on two
occasions, of lOOZ. " bounty " only.
Mrs. Kirke and her daughter Diana are un-
favourably alluded to by Mrs. Grace Worthley,
a lady of the same class, who will not " be any
longer a laughing-stock for any of Mr. Kirk's
bastards" (vide letter to her cousin Lord Bran-
don, September 7, 1682, Diary of Henry Sidney,
Earl of Romney, i. pp. xxxiii. xxxiv.). And again,
the same lady, in another letter, speaks of " the
common Countess of Oxford and ner adulterous
bastards" (Ibid,), Mr. Jesse's quotation from
** Queries and Answers from Garraway*s Coffee
House" (vide The Court of the Stewarts, vol. ii.
p. 366.) may be here reproduced in support of i
the epitaph which this angry lady has been pleased
to assign the countess, who, it would seem, had
robbed her, well born and well married, of her
noble keeper "the handsome Sidney :"
*<Q. How often has Mrs. Kirk sold her daughter
Di. before the Lord of Oxford married her ?
A, Ask the Prince and Harry Jermyn.'*
The following curious extract from one of the
Heber MSS. at Hodnet has been kindly furnished
me by Charles Cholmondeley, Esq., of the Ivy
House, Wisbeach, co. Cambridge, to whom the
MS. belongs :
X A • • • * f
" Sir Thomas the second baronet's death is men-
tioned in Lady Rachael Russeirs letters. His second
wife was one of King Charles's Beauties, but the account
in Granger of her is not correct, as it appears that she
lived some time with Sir Thomas, as mistress, before
their marriage. He left her in great distress, as the
profits of the estate were embezzled by attorneys and
stewards. The following is a copy from a letter from
her to one Squibb, an attorney who had the manage-
ment of the estate :
*SlR,
* "When you were last here you were pleased to say
that in some little time I should bee payd some money.
I have had with me my woman's husband y* did serve
mee about two yeares since ; and hee is soe impatient
for what I owe her y* hee will staye noe longer. It
is given me to understand I must goe to prison or paye
part of w* I owe him. Things fly to a great violence,'
and if you thinke it will bee for the credit or advantage]
of my childerne y* such an afront should come to mee,^
is the question. I have nothing to depend on but w*;
must come from the estate of Sir Richard Vernon.]
How I have been used by the trustees you are noei
stranger to. • I am now forced to live on charity, and
I grow every day more and more weary of it. For my
childern's sake I remain in England, or else I would
seeke my fortune elsewhere. Pray to take this into
consideration, and see w* can be done.
* I am, Sir, y' most humble servS
* Vernon.
* P. S. — If you can, pray doe mee y« favour to send
mee by to-morrow at one of y* cloke, twenty shillings,
to pay for wood, or I must sit w^^'oute fyer ; y* will be
ill for a person confined to the house.' **
It is not certain whether it is to "Mistris Kirke,"
Ladj Vernon's mother, that Charles I. refers in his
letter addressed to Colonel Whaley on the day of
his escape from Hampton Court, November 11,
1647, but it is very likely to have been so. There
was a Mistress (Anne) Kirke, sworn in a dresser
to Queen Henrietta Maria in Easter week, 1637
(vide Strafford Papers, vol. ii. p. 73.), whose full-
length portrait by Vandyke has been frequently
engraved, by Browne, Gaywood, Hollar, Beckett,
&c. ; and this lady may be the " Mrs. Anne Kirke,
unfortunately drowned near London Bridge," who
was buried in Westminster Abbey, July 9, 1641.
Nov. 12. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
463
In Westminster Abbey was buried, May 23,
1640, "Mr. Kirk's daughter." Captain George
Kirke married there, February 10, 1699-1700,
Mary Cooke. George Kirke, Esq., died Jan. 10,
1703-4, and was buried in the abbey cloisters
(Mon. Inscr.) ; and Mrs. Mary Kirke died Decem-
ber 17, 1751, and was also buried there (M. I.).
We may presume that all these Kirkes were of
the same family.
Having now clearly released the annotator from
all farther interference with Mary Kirke's private
history, and having excluded her handsome face
from any future illustrated edition of Grammont,
I must leave him to deal with Miss Warmistre.
It seems most probable that Dr. Thomas War-
mistre, dean of Worcester, who died October 30,
1665, was her Tather, as he is known to have
been a Koyalist. His will, as. it is not to be
found at Doctors' Commons, must be sought
for at Worcester. His brother Gervais was a
married man, but his effects, unfortunately for
our inquiries, were administered to at Doctors*
Commons, August 31, 1641. That Warmistre
was her right name is proved by Lord Cornbury's
letter to the Duchess of Bedford, June 10, 1662
(Warburton's Rupert^ vol. iii. pp. 461 — 464.). Her
portrait is at Hengrave Hall, Suffolk, and has been
engraved by Scriven for Carpenter's Grammont^
1811.
Lord Cornbury's letter contradicts GrammOnt's
statement, that Miss Boynton and Miss Wells
came in on a removal, for they were of the ori-
ginal six maids of honour. Among these is named
a Miss Price (Henrietta Maria), who we may sup-
pose a sister to the Duchess of York's Miss Price,
one of Grammont's most conspicuous heroines ;
and if so, when I come to speak of the Duchess's
maids of honour, her parentage will be proved.
Of Miss Carey, rejoicing in the prefix of Simona,
the sixth of the queen's original maids of honour,
we have no farther occasion to speak.
In 1669 the queen appears to have had four
maids of honour only, the places vacated by Miss
Stewart's and Miss Warmistre's marriages being
unoccupied. This state of affairs leads me to
doubt whether Miss Bellenden ever held the ap-
pointment. Mademoiselle Bardon, Grammont ad-
mits, was not actually a maid of honour, and
Mademoiselle de la Garde certainly never was.
Lord Bbatbbooke has suggested to me, with
some show of reason, that the first may be the
** Mrs. Baladine " who held a place of less emolu-
ment (that of dresser, probably) in the Duchess
of York's household, and who left in the middle of
the quarter, between Michaelmas and Christmas,
1662 (vide Household Book of James Duke of
York at Audley End), as if she had the prudence
" de quitter la cour avant que d'en ^tre chassee."
*' La desagreable Bardon " may have been a
daughter, or some other near relation, to Claudius
Bardon, mentioned in the secret service expenses
of Charles II.
Mademoiselle de la Garde was appointed a
dresser to the queen on her marriage (vide Lord
Cornbury's letter), and continued in this office till
1673, when she died. Her father, Charles Peliott
Baron de la Garde, or her brother, if she had one,
was a groom of the privy chamber to Queen Ca-
therine in 1687, and her mother a dresser to the
Duchess of York in 1662 (Duke of York's House-
hold Book). Mary her sister, who became the
wife of Sir Thomas Bond of Peckham, co. Surrey^
Baronet, comptroller of the household to Queen
Henrietta Maria, was a lady of the privy chamber
to the same queen.
Of mademoiselle I may add, that she married
Mr. Gabriel Silvius, carver to the queen, in 1669
(compare first and second editions of Anglice No'
titia, 1669) ; and of her husband, in addition to
the particulars already stated by the annotators,
that he received the honour of knighthood Janu-
ary 28, 1669-70, married a second wife (a fact
overlooked by the annotators, including Mr. Cun-
ningham), viz. Anne, daughter of the Hon. William
Howard, a younger son of Thomas first Earl of
Berkshire, at Westminster Abbey, November 12,
1 677, went the same year to the Hague as master
of the household to the Prince of Orange (Eve-
lyn), became privy purse to James II. (The British
Compendium, or Riidiments of Honour), died at his
house in Leicester Fields, January, 1696-7, and
was buried in the church of St. Martin. It was^
his second wife, and widow, who died October 13,
1730.
If, as it is possible. Miss Bellenden did hold the
appointment of maid of honour to the queen, she
must have replaced Miss Stewart or Miss War-
mistre ; and if Miss Livingston and Miss Fielding
held like appointments, one of the two must have-
replaced her, and they, again, must have removed
from the court before 1669. I am not at present
able to say who those three ladies were.
Before bringing this paper to a conclusion, I
must be permitted to refer Mr. Cunningham to
five letters, written by Count de Comminges, the-
French ambassador in London, and printed by
LoBD Bbatbrooke in his Appendix to Pepys,
which Mr. C. has very unaccountably overloosed
when settling the chronology of Grammont.
The first, to M. de Lionne, dated '^Londres,
Janvier 5-15, 1662-3," announces the arrival of
the Chevalier the day before ^* fort content de son
voyage. II a ete ici re^u le plus agreablement an
monde. II est de toutes les parties du Roi." The
second, to Louis XIV., dated " Decembre 10-20,
1663," informs the king of the chevalier's joy at
being allowed to return to France, and of his in-
tention to leave England in four days. He also
informs Louis that he believes the chevalier will
see the court of France in company of " une belle
464
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 211.
Angloise.'* A postscript, dated "Decerabre 20-24,"
says that the King of England, for certain stated
reasons, has persuaded the chevalier to remain a
day longer ; and, farther, " II laisse ici quelques
autres dettes, qu*il pretend venir recueillir quand
il se declarera sur le sujet de Mille Hamilton,
qui est si embrouilld que les plus clairvoyans n*y
voyent goutte/' The third, dated "Mai 19-24,
1664," is also to the King of France, and speaks of
the Chevalier*s wife, " madame sa femme." The
next letter is addressed to M. de Lionne, and
dated "Aout 29, Septembre 8, 1664." It con-
tains this important intelligence : " Madam la
Comtesse de Grammont accoucha hier au soir d*un
fils beau comme la m^re, et galant comme Ic pere."
The last letter, dated " Octobre 24, Novembre 3,
1664," and addressed to the same M. de Lionne,
commences as follows : " Le Comte de Grammont
est parti aujourd'hui avec sa femme."
These several letters, all important to the anno-
tator of Grammont, give the precise dates of the
chevalier's first visit to the Court of Charles II., and
of his departure, and settle the date of his mar-
riage within a few days. This event must have
taken place in December, 1663. Mrs. Jameson
and Mr. Cunningham place it in 1668.
On another occasion I will return to this sub-
ject. G. Steinman Steinman.
CHANGE OF MEANING IN PROVEHBTAL EXFBES-
SIONS.
I entirely agree with G. K. (Vol. viii., p. 269.)
respecting the original sense of " Putting a spoke
in one's wheel." It surely meant to aid him in
constructing the wheel, say of his fortune. As the
true sense of this expression seems to have been
retained in America when lost in its birthplace,
so Ireland has retained that of another which has
changed its sense here. By "finding a mare's
nest" is, I believe, meant, fancying you have
made a great discovery when in fact you have
found nothing. I certainly remember the late
Earl Grey using it in that sense in his place in
parliament. But how does this accord with the
following place in Beaumont and Fletcher ?
«' Why dost thou laugh ?
What mare's nest hast thou found ? "
Bonduca, Act V. Sc. 2.
•on which, rather to my surprise, Mr. Dyce has
'no note. Now in Ireland, when a person is seen
laughing immoderately without any apparent
cause, it is usual to say, *' 0, he has found a mare's
nest, and he's laughing at the eggs.'* This per-
fectly agrees with the above passage from Bonduca^
and is doubtless the original sense ond original
form of the adaire.
There is another of these proverbial expressions
which, I think, has also lost its pristine sense. By
" Tread on a worm and it will turn ** is usually
meant that the Tery meekest and most helpless
persons will, when harshly used, turn on their per-
secutors. But the poor worm does, and can do,
no such thing. I therefore think that the adase
arose at the time when toorm was inclusive of we
snake and viper, and that what was meant was,
that as those that had the power to avenge them-
selves when injured would use it, so people should
be cautious how they provoked them. I am con-
firmed in this view by the following passage in the
Wallenstein's Tod of Schiller, Act II. Sc. 6. :
** Doch einen Stachel g^b Natur dem Wurm,
Dem WillkUr iibermuthig spielend tritt.'*
Thos. EIeightlet.
EXTBACTS FBOM COLCHESTER CORPORATION
RECORDS.
I inclose you some rather curious extracts
from the corporation books of Colchester, which I
made a few years since, during an investigation of
some of the charities of that ancient borough.
Jas. Whishaw .
** The informacon of Richard Glascock of Horden-of-
the-Hill, in the County of Essex, Cord way ner, aged
twenty-four yeeres or thereabouts, taken upon oath
the 5»*» of June, 1651, before Jno. Furlie, Gent.*
Mayor of the Towne of Colchester.
** The Informant saieth, that upon the Lord*s daie,
the fower and twentieth daie of May last, that one W"»
Beard of Horden abovesaid, did cut off the taile of the
catt of Thomas Burgis of Fanies Pishe, and Margaret,
the wife of the s<* Tho* Burgis, after the catt's taile was
cutt off, came home, and seeing that her catt*s taile had
bin cutt off she enquired who had done it, and being
told that the s** W™ Beard had done it, she &<> she
would be even w**» him before he went out of towne.
" Richard Glascock.**
«* The informacon of H' Potter, aged twenty yeeres or
thereabouts, of Horden abovesaid, Lynnen Weaver,
taken upon oath the day and yeere abovesaid.
•* This informant saieth, that y« s* fower and twentieth
daie of May the taile of the catt of the s*^ Thomas Bur-
gis being cutt off by the s* W« Beard, and y* s* Mar-
garet the wife of the s* Tho* Burgis haveing bin told
that the s* W» Beard had done it, she p'sentlie told
the s** Beard she would be even with him before he
went out of towne, and flewe in his face, and said she
would give him something before he went out of her
bowse. And this informant saieing, Good woman, I
hope you will g^ive him noe poyson, and she replyed,
he would not be soe foolish as to take any thinge of
her, but she would be even w^ him before he went out
of towne. "Henrv Potter."
•* The informacon of R* Spencer, aged thirtie yeeres or
thereabouts. Servant to Capt" Thomas Caldwell, taken
upon oath the day and yeere aforesaid.
** This informant saieth, that the before-named W"
Beard being very sicke and in a strange distemper, and
Not. 12. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
46S
hsieing heard that Mtrgaret, Ibe vire of the before-
naniEd Thomoa Burgis, had threatened him, did sus'
pect the t' W- Beard raiglit be bewitched or ill dealt
»'>>, did cut off lOine of his haire off from his head, and
did wind it up tugelher and put it into the fire, and
could not for a gaod while make it burne, untill he
tooka a candle and put under it or into it, and then
w" much adoe it did burne, and after it was burnt y*
t," Beard Uie slill, and before it wai burnt he >ras in
ancb a distemper that three men could hardlie hold him
into bis bed. « Rich.4ed Spencsh.
*■ hb + mart."
One bears it so oflea repeated, that Convocation
Wfla finallj BuppreHsed in 1 7 1 7, in consequence of the
ftccusations brought bj the Lower House against
Bishop Hoadley, that it seems worth while noting
in correction of this, that though no licence fiom
the Crown to make canons has ever been granted
unce that time, jet that Convocation met and sat
in 172S, and again for some sessions in the spring
of 1742, when several important subjects were
brought before it; among which was the very in-
teresting question of curates' stipends, in these
words :
" Vllth, That much reproach is brought upon the
beneficed, and much oppression upon the unbeneHced,
dergy, by curates accepting too scanty salaries from in-
and which was really the last subject that was
ever brought before Convocation. On Jan. 27,
1742, it was unanimously agreed, tliat "tbe mo-
tion made bj the Archdeacon of Lincoln concern-
ing ecclesiastical courts and clandestine marriages,
the qualifications of persons to be admitted into
hoi/ orders, and the salaries and titles of curates,"
should be "reduced into writing, and the parti-
culars offered to the House at their next assem-
bly." But in the next session, on Mai-ch 5, 1742,
lie Prolocutor, Dr. Lisle, was afraid to go on wilh
the business before the House, and after "speak-
ing much of a pi-amumire" and " echoing and re-
verberating the word from one side of good King
Henry's Chapel to the other," Ihe whole was let
drop ; and Convocation was fully consigned to the
silence and the slumber of a century. The whole
of these transactions are detailed in a scarce pam-
phlet, A Letter to Ihe Rev. Dr. Lisle, Proloeuior of
the Lower Home, by the Archdeacon of Lincoln
(the Venerable G. Reynolds). W. Fbaheb.
Tor-Mob un.
" When siie comes into Ihe roam, it ia like ■ beau-
tiful air of Moiart breaking upon you." — Thackeray
" On a good-looking young Lady." (Quoted in Wctt-
minHtr Riniiw, April 1853.)
S. " Two stars keep not their motion in one sphere,"
Whence?
"We are the twin stars, and cannot shine in one
sphere. When he rises I must set." — Congrete,
Lace fir Lave, Act III. So. 4.
3. " Et ce n'est pas toujours par valeur et par
chastet^ que Ics hammes sont lajllants et que les
femmes sont chastes." — De La Rochefoucauld, Mai. i.
" Yes, faith 1 I believe some women are virtuous,
too ; but 'tis as I believe some men are valiant, through
fear."_Congreve, ioBt/ui-i-OK, AclIlL So. 14.
4. "Hais si Ics vaisseaui aillonnent un moment lei
ondes, la tague vient elfacer aussitut eelte l^g^re
fut au premier Jour de la Cr^tion."— Corinnt, b. i.
ch.4.
" Such as Creation's dawn beheld, thou rollest now I "
Byron, Childi Hanid.
5. " Jl est plus hontcui de se mefier de ses amis que
d'en eite troinpi;." — De La Rochefoucauld, Max.
" Belter trust all, and be deceived.
And weep that trust, and that deceiving.
Than doubt one heart that, if believer).
Had blessed thy life with true believing!
" Oil 1 in this mocking world, too fast
The doubting lieiid o'erUkes our youth :
Better be cheated to the last.
Than lose the blessed hope of truth I "
Mrs. Butler (Fanny Keinble).
6. In " N. & Q.," Vol. iv., p. 435., I cited, as a
" ' 10 Sbelley, tbe ft"" '" ''■■■■
vol. vi. p. 158. :
" The sense of flying in our sleep might, lie thought,
probably be the aniieipation or forefeeliog of an un-
evolved power, like an Aurelia's dream of butterSy
In Spicer's Sights and Souadt (1853), p. 140., is
to be found a poem professing to Lave been " dic-
tated by the spirit of Robert Soutliey," on
March 25, 1S5I, tiie fourth stanza of which runs
as folio trs :
" The ioul, like some sweet flower-bud yet unblown.
Lay tranced in beauty in its silent cell :
Tbe spirit slept, but dreamed of worlds unknown.
As dreams tht ehrysalit within its theO.
Ere summer breathes iu spell."
What inference should be drawn from this c
(VoL ir., p. 435. J Vol. vL, p. 123.; Vol. »ii.,
p. 151.)
1. " When she had passed it seemed like tbe ceasing of
exqtuaile muue." — Longfellow's EwagdiM, Part L 1.
466
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 211.
SHAK8PEABE CORRESPONDENCE.
Shakspeare's Works with a Digest of all the
Readings (Vol. viii., pp. 74. 170.362.)- — I am ex-
ceedingly obliged to your correspondent Estb for
-bis suggestions, and need not say that any sincere
advice will be most respectfully considered. In
the second volume of my folio edition of Shak-
epeare, I am partially endeavouring to carry out
the design to which he alludes, by giving a digest
of all the readings up to the year 1 684. How is
It possible to carry out his wish farther with any
advantage ? I should feel particularly thankful
for a satisfactory reply to the following questions
in relation to this important subject : — 1. As many
copies of the first and other folio editions, as well
as nearly all the copies of the same quarto editions,
differ from each other, how are these differences
to be treated ? What copies are to be taken for
texts, and how many copies of each are to be col-
lated P 2. Are such books ai Beckett, Jackson,
and others, to be examined? If not, are any
conjectural emendations of the last and present
centuries to be given ? Where is the line to be
drawn ? A mere selection is valueless, or next to
valueless ; because, setting aside the differences in
opinion in such matters, we want to know what
conjectures are new, and which are old ? 3. Are
the various readings suggested in periodicals to be
given? 4. Can any positive and practical rules
be furnished, likely to render such an under-
taking useful and successful ? J. O. Halliwell.
Local Rhymes^ Kent, —
*' Between Wickham and Welling
There's not an honest man dwelling ;
And I'll tell you the reason why,
Because Shooters' Hill's so nigh."
Unless this is preserved in " N". & Q." it will
probably be forgotten with the highwaymen, whose
proceedings at Shooters' Hill, no doubt, origin-
ated it. G. W. Sktrinq.
Samuel Pepys's Orammar. — I have lately been
looking over the Diary of this very clever person,
and I confess it has surprised me to find him, a
graduate of Cambridge, and, in fact, I may say a
man of letters, constantly employing such vulgar
bad grammar as " he do say," and such like. I am
the more surprised when, on looking at his letters,
even the familiar ones to his cousin Roger and to
W. Hewer, I can find nothing of the kind, they
being as grammatical and as well written as any
of the time.
My hypothesis is — Lord Bratbrooke can cor-
rect me if I am wrong — that Pepys, writing his
Diary in short-hand, used one and the same
character for all the persons of the present tense
of doy and that the decypherer did not attend to
this circumstance. In his letter to Col. Legge
(vol. V. p. 296.), Pepys writes ** His R. H. does
think," &c., which in the Diary would surely be
" His R. H. do think," &c. In a similar way I
would account for the use of come instead of came
in the Diary^ as there is nothing of the kind in
the Letters. Should I be right, I may have
rendered a slight service to the memory of an
able and worthy man. Thos. Keightley.
Roman Remains. — In Wright's Celt, Roman, and
Saxon, p. 207., a curious Roman altar, dedicated
to Silvanus, " ab aprum eximisB forme captum,"
is mentioned as found at Durham. It was found
in the wild district to the west, in the neighbour-
hood of Stanhope in Weardale, and is preserved
in the rectory house there.
P. 330., figure A. This armilla (?) was not found
in Northumberland, but in Sussex, together with
several others of the same form, a torques and
celts. W. C. Trevbltan.
WallingtOD.
To grab, — A very popular writer has lately
rightly denounced the use of this word as a vul-
garism. Like many other monosyllables used by
our working classes, it may plead antiquity in
extenuation of its vulgarity. It has been derived
from the Welsh word grabiaw, to grasp, and in
ancient times was one of our " household words.*'
The retention by a tailor of a portion of the cloth
delivered to him, although it had been a usage
from time immemorial, might have been considered
by our forefathers as a grabbage : we now call it
cabbage, N. W. S.
Curfew at Sandwich, — Sometime back it was
stated that the curfew at Sandwich had been dis-
continued. It has been resumed in consequence
of the opposition made by the inhabitants. The
same occurred about twenty years ago. (From in-
formation on the spot.) E. M.
Ecclesiastical Censure, — Ecclesiastical censure
was often used in the Middle Ages to enforce
civil rights, specially that of the exemption of the
clergy from tne judgment of a lay tribunal. The
following instance tnereof is new to me. I have
copied it from "Collectanea Gervasii Holies,"
vol. i. p. 529., Lansdowne MS. 207., in the British
Museum :
«* Ex Archis Line. aP 1 307.
" The Major and Burgesses of Grimesby hanged a
Preist for theft called Richard of Notingham. Here-
upon ye Bp sendes to ye Abbott of Wellow to associate
to himsclfe twelue adjacent chapleins to examine ye
cause, and in St. James his Church Excommunicates all
y* had any hand in it of whatsoever condition they
were, yS King, Queen, and Prince of Wales excepted ;
Not. 12. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
467
and ye B? himselfe did Excommunicate them in ye
Cathedral Church of Lincolne, ye fifth of ye Ides of
Aprill following."
Edwabd Peacock.
Bo^esford Moors, Kirton-in-Lindsey.
The Natural History of Balmoral, — Dr. Wil-
liam Macgillivray, Professor of Civil and Natural
History in the Marischal College of Aberdeen,
and who died there Sept. 5, 1852, left an unpub-
lished MS. on " The Natural History of Balmoral
and its Neighbourhood." This work has been
purchased from his executors by His Royal High-
ness Prince Albert ; and is to be printed for the
use of Her Majesty and the Royal Family, and
for curculation among their august relatives. It
was the last work on which the distinguished
author was engaged, and was only completed a
short time previous to his death. It also contains
some curious speculations regarding several plants
and herbs of that Alpine district, and their uses in
a medicinal and domestic point of view, as known
to the ancient Caledonians and Picts. Altogether
it is a most interesting work. W.
Shirt Collars, — In Hone's Every-day Booky
vol. ii. p. 381., I find the following, which I think
is after the present ridiculous fashion of wearing
shirt collars, viz. so tight round the neck, and so
stiff, that it is a wonder there are not some serious
accidents.
These collars, at present worn by the fast young
men of the day, are called " The Piccadilly three-
folds.*' Now, if this goes on until they get to a
" nail in depth, and stiffened with yellow starch,
and double wired^'" I think it will only be proper
to put a heavy tax upon them.
•* Piccadilly. — The picadil was the round hem, or
the piece set about the edge or skirt of a garment,
whether at top or bottom ; also a kind of stiff collar,
made in fashion of a band, that went about the neck
and round about the shoulders : hence the term
* wooden piccadilloes' (meaning the pillory) in ffudi-
hras ; and see Nares* Glossary, and Blount's GlotsO'
graphia. At the time that ruffs and picadlls were
much in fashion, there was a celebrated ordinary near
St. James's, called Piccadilly : because, as some say, it
was the outmost, or skirt-house, situate at the hem of
the town : but it more probably took its name from
one Higgins, a tailor, who made a fortune by picadil*,
and built this with a few adjoining houses. The name
has by a few been derived from a much frequented shop
for the sale of these articles ; this probably took its
rise from the circumstance of Higgins having built
houses there, which however were not for selling ruffs ;
and indeed, with the exception of his buildings, the
site of the present Piccadilly was at that time open
country, and quite out of the way of trade. At a later
period, when Burlington House was built, its noble
owner chose the situation, then at some distance from
the extremity of the town, that none might build beyond
him. The ruffs formerly worn by gentlemen were
frequently double wired, and stiffened with yeUow starch :
and the practice was at one time carried to such an
excess, that they were limited by Queen Elizabeth * to
a nayle of a yeard in depth,* In the time of James I.,
they still continued of a preposterous size : so that,
previous to the visit made by that monarch to Cam-
bridge in 1615, the Vice-chancellor of the University
thought fit to issue an order, prohibiting * the fearful
enormity and excess of apparel seen in all degrees, as,
namely, strange piccadilloes, vast bands, huge cuffs, shoe
roses, tufts, locks, and tops of hair, unbeseeming that
modesty and carriage of students in so renowned a
university.* "
It is scarcely to be supposed that the ladies
were deficient in the size of their ruffs, &c.
I must conclude this in the words of the im-
mortal poet :
** • . • . . New fashions.
Though they be never so ridiculous.
Nay, let them be unmanly, yet are followed."
H.E.
^utrit^.
"days or MY YOUTH."
The following lines are understood to have been
written by the late Mr. St. George Tucker of Vir-
ginia, U. S. Any information in support of this
opinion, or, if it be unfounded, in disproof of it, is
requested by T.
DAYS or MY YOUTH.
Days of my youth ! ye have glided away.
Hairs of my youth ! ye are frosted and gray ;
Eyes of my youth ! your keen sight is no more ;
Cheeks of my youth ! ye are furrow'd all o'er ;
Strength of my youth ! all your vigour is gone ;
Thoughts of my youth ! all your visions are flown !
Days of my youth ! I wish not your recall.
Hairs of my youth ! I'm content you should fall ;
Eyes of my youth ! ye much evil have seen ;
Cheeks of my youth ! bathed in tears have yott
been ;
Thoughts of my youth ! ye have led me astray ;
Strength of my youth ! why lament your decay !
Days of my age ! ye will shortly be past ;
Pains of my age ! yet awhile can ye last ;
Joys of my age ! in true wisdom delight ;
Eyes of my age ! be religion your light ;
Thoughts of my age ! dread not the cold sod,
Hopes of my age ! be ye fix'd on your God !
St. George Tucker, Judge.
i^tmrr €Lxtttitii.
Randall Minshidl and his Cheshire Collections.^^
Of what family was Randall ]\linshull, who, in the
Addenda to Gower's Sketch for a History of
468
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 211.
Cheshire^ p. 94., is stated to have professedly made
a collection for the Antiquities of Cheshire by the
desire of Lord Mai pas ? and where is such collec-
tion at the present time to met with ?
Cestbiensis.
Machey*s ''''Theory of the Earth'' ^1 have a small
pamphlet entitled,
** A New Theory of the Earth and of Planetary
Motion ; in which it is demonstrated that the Sun is
Vicegerent of his own System. By Sampson Arnold
Mackey, author of Mythological Astronomy and C/ra-
nia*8 Key to the Revelations , &c. Norwich, printed for
the Author."
There is no date on the title-page, but a notice
on the second page indicates 1825. The book is
extraordinary, and shows great astronomical and
philological attainments, with some startling facts
in geology, and bold theories as to the formation
of the earth. I have endeavoured to procure the
other two works of which Mr. Mackey is said to
be the author, and also some account of him, but
without success. I can hardly suppose that a
writer of so much ability and learning can be
unknown, and shall feel much obliged by any in-
formation as to him or his writings. «f. Ward.
Coventry.
Birthplace of King Edward V. — Can you give
me any information as to the exact birthplace of
this monarch ?
Hume (vol. ii. p. 430.) merely says that he was
born while his mother was in sanctuary in London,
and his father was a fugitive from the victorious
Earl of Warwick.
Commynes (book iii. chap. 5.) also says that she
took refuge " es franchises qui sont k Londres,"
and " y accoucha d*ung filz en grant povret^."
Chastellain, at p. 486. of his Chronique^ says :
^'EUe alia k Saincte- Catherine, une abbeye, di-
soient aucuns : aucuns autres disoient It Yase-
monstre (Westminster), lieu de franchise, qui
oncques n'avoit est6 corrompu."
I should be glad to have some more definite in-
formation on this point, if any of your readers can
supply it. A Leguleian.
Name of Infants, — In Scotland there is a super-
stition that it is unlucky to tell the name of infants
before they are christened. Can this be explained ?
R. J. A.
Geometrical Curiosity, — Take half a sheet of
note-paper ; fold and crease it so that two opposite
corners exactl v meet ; then fold and crease it so
that the remaming two opposite corners exactly
meet. Armed with a fine pair of scissors, proceed
now to repeat both these folds alternately without
cessation, taking care to cut off quite flush and
clear all the overlappings on both sides after each
fold. When these ovenappings become too small
to be cut off, the paper is in the shape of a circle,
i. e, the ultimate intersection of an infinite series
of tangents. Perhaps Professor De Morgait
will give the rationale of this procedure.
C. Mansfield Ikglebt.
Birmingham.
Denison Family, — Can any correspondent of
" N. & Q." inform me how the Denisons of Den-
bies, near Dorking, in Surrey, and the Denisons
of Ossington, in Nottinghamshire, were related ?
Who was Mr. Robert Denison of Nottingham,
who took a very active part in politics at the
commencement of the French Revolution ? His
wife had a handsome legacy from a rich old lady,
one Mrs. Williams, of whom I would much like to
know something farther. E. H. A.
" Came'' — In Pegge's Anecdotes of the English
Language f p. 189., we read :
'* The real preterit of the Saxon verb comcm, is com.
Came is therefore a violent infringement, though it is
impossible to detect the innovator, or any of his ac-
complices."
When was the word came introduced into our
language? Early instances of its use would be
very welcome. H. T. G.
Hull.
Montmartre, — By some this name is derived
from mons martis ; oy others from mons martyrum.
Which is the more satisfactory etymology, and
upon what authority does it rest ?
Henry H. Breen.
St. Lucia.
Law of Copyright : British Museum, — Ob-
serving that the new law of copyright, which was
passed and came into operation on the 1st of July,
1842, expressly repeals all of the statutes pre-
viously existing on that subject, I am anxious to
know, through the medium of " N. & Q.," if the
British Museum authorities can claim and enforce
the delivery of any book, although not entered on
the books of Stationers' Hall, which may have been
printed and published before the passing of the
said act of 1842. If so, then what is the state of
the act or statute which bears upon that par-
ticular privilege ? J. A.
Glasgow.
Veneration for the Oak, — The oak — " the brave
old oak" — has been an object of veneration in this
country from the primaeval to the present times.
The term oak is used in several places in Scrip-
ture, but nowhere does it appear to refer to the
oak as we know it — our indigenous oak. The
oakj under which God appeared to Abraham, bears
apparently a resemblance to the tree of life of the
Assyrian sculptures ; and, perhaps, the Zoroasirian
Nov. 12. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
469
Homo, or sacred tree, and tbe sacred tree of the
Mindus ; and the same may yet be found in the
JBritUh oak. Is there a botanical affinity between
these trees ? Are they all ociks f Was the tree
of lif Cytia described in the Bible, an oak f G. W.
Stansted, Montfichet.
Father Maithew^s Chickens, — Can any of your
correspondents explain why grouse in Scot-
land are sometimes called '* lather Matthew's
chickens?" M. R. G.'
Pronunciation of Bible and Prayer Book proper
Names. — I feel sure that many of your clerical
correspondents would feel much obliged by any
assbtance that might be forwarded them through
the medium of your columns respecting the cor-
rect pronunciation of those proper names which
occur during divine service: such as Sabaoth,
Moriah, Aceldama, Sabacthani, Abcdnego, and
several others of the same class. — The opinions
already given in publications are so contradictory,
that I have been induced to ask you to insert this
Query. W. Sloane Sloane-Evans.
Cornworthy Vicarage, Totnes.
MSS. of Anthony Bave, — I possess a volume
of MS. Sermons, Treatises, and Memorandums
in the autograph of one Anthony Bave, who
appears, from the doctrines broached therein, to
liave been a moderate Puritan. What is known
concerning him ? It is a book I value much from
the beauty of the writing and the vigorous style
of the discourses. B. C. Warde.
Kidderminster.
Be turn of Gentry , temp. Hen, VI, — In what
collection, or where, can the Be turn of Gentry of
England 12th Henry YI. be seen or met with ?
Glaius.
Taylor's ''^ Holy Living ^ — In Pickering's edi-
tion of this work (London, 1848), some of the
quotations are placed in square brackets {e.g,
on p. xii.) ; and some of the paragraphs have an
asterisk prefixed to them (as on p. 8.). Why ?
A. A. D.
Captain Jan Dimmeson. — Can any one give me
some information about him ? I find his name on
a pane of glass, with the date of 1667, in the
vicinity of Windsor. I had not an opportunity
to obtain a copy of some words that were painted
on the glass, beneath a fine flowing sea with a
£hip in full sail upon its bosom. F. M.
Greek and Roman Fortification, — Where can I
obtain an account of Greek and Boman fortifica-
tion ? I am surprised to find that Smith's ClaS'
sical Dictionary has no article upon that subject.
J. H. J.
The Queen at Chess, — In the old titles of the
men at chess, the queen, who does idl the hard
work, was called the prime minister, or grand
vizier. When did the change take place, and who
thought of giving all the power to a woman f
Truly in the game ** woman is the head of the
man, * reversing the just order. C. S. W.
Vida on Chess. — I have had in my possession
for more than five years a translation of Vida on
Chess, It is in the handwriting of a celebrated
poet of the last century; but whether a mere
transcript or a version of his own, is more than
I can afiTirm. Now, I shall feel obliged by any
information on the subject, whether positive or
negative, and transcribe the exordium with that
view. It is not the version which was made by
George Jeffreys, and revised by Alexander Pope* :
*' Vida*s Scaccliis, or Chess.**
« Armies of box that sportively engage.
And mimick real battels in their rage,
Pleas'd I recount ; how smit with g1ory*s charms,
Two mighty monarchs met in adverse arms,
Sable and white : assist me to explore.
Ye Serian nymphs, what ne'er was sung before.*'
Bolton Cobnet.
Miliar ^ntxit^ fx>ifb ^nSis^tti.
Thornton Abbey. — Can any of your readers give
me some information respecting an old and ruinous,
building called " Thornton Abbey," situate about
ten miles from Grimsby, Lincolnshire, and also
about two miles from the river Humber ?
ViCTOB.
Grimsby.
[Tanner states, the house was called Thorneton
Curteis, and Torrington. It was founded by William
le Gros, Earl of Albemarle, and Lord of Holderness,
about the year 1139, for Austin Canons, and was de-
dicated to the Virgin Mary. Dugdale says, that when
first founded it was a priory, and the monks were in-
troduced from the monastery of Kirkham ; but was
changed into an abbey by Pope Eugenius IIL»
A.D. 1148. Though Henry VIII. suppressed the
Abbey, he reserved the greater part of the lands to
endow a college, which he erected in its room, for a
dean and prebendaries, to the honour of the Holy
and Undivided Trinity. From the remains it must
have been a magnificent building. Originally it con-
sisted of an extensive quadrangle, surrounded by a
deep ditch, with high ramparts, and built in a style
adapted for occasional defence. To the east of the
gateway are the remains of the abbey church. The
chapter-house, part of which is standing, was of an oc-
tangular shape, and highly decorated. On the south
of the ruins of the church is a building, now occupied
as a farm-house, which formerly was tlie residence of
the abbots. It was afterwards the Eeat of Edward
* The only one which I have seen.
470
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 211.
Skinner, Esq., *ho married Ann, daughter of Sir
William WentiraTtli, brother to the unfortunate Earl
of SlraRbid. The estate was purchaaed from one of
the Skinner family b; Sir Richard Sutton, Bart. ; it
b now in the poaaesaian of Lord Yarborough. In
■kelelou was fuund, irilh ■ table, a book, and a candle-
stick. It is supposed to have been the remains of the
fourteenth abbot, who, it ii slated, wai for aome crime
■entenced to be immured — ■ mode of eapllal punish-
ment not uncotntDon in monoateriei. Four Tieiri of
the abbey are given in Allen's Hiitory of Lincohuhin,
ToL ii., and some farther notices of iu ancient sUte will
be found in Dugdale's Monaititon, vol. •!. pi. i. p. 324, ;
Tanner's Notitia, Lincolnshire, liiyii. ; and Beautia
qf Engbad and Wala,-ro].ij. p. GB4.]
Bithop Wilson's " Sacra Privabt." — In the new
edition of this work, p. 381., thcra is given a. table
of " The Collects, with their Tendencies." Under
the head of Fasting, references are made to the
First Sunday io Lent, and the Tenth and Twenty-
tkird after Trinity. There must be some mistake
in this, as the last two .enllccts refer to prayer.
This for your correspondent Mb. Dbntoh, to
whom I understand the Church is indebted for the
redintegration of the good bishop's journal.
A. A. D.
[We have subtnitled the above to the Ret. Willi.u
DiNTON, who expresses his obligations to A. A. D. for
pointing out the error, which seems to have escaped
the DOtiea of all the previous editors of the Sacra
Privala. Hie aecond edition is now at presi, and, if
not too late, the correction will be made. Ma. Dih-
TON doubts whether the list after all ia the bishop's ;
but thinks it was on1j copied by him from some work.
Can any one point out the source? It is singular
that another mistake of the bishop's should have
escaped the notice of all previous editors, namely, the
tendency of the collect for Whit-Sunday being de-
•Otibed as HumiHatim instead of lUumiitation.]
Derivation ofChemistry." — Are there any his-
torical reasons for deriving the word chemistry
from Chemi, the name of Egypt, as is done by
Bunsen and others P T. H. T.
[Or. Thomson, the writer of the article "Che-
mistry" in the EncfElop<cdia Brltaanica, thus notices
this derivation : " The generally received opinion
among alchymistical writers was, thai chemistry ori-
gbated in Egypt ; and the honour of the invention
has been unanimously conferred on Hermes Trisme-
He is by tome supposed lo be tli
I Chan
f Han
first occupied and peopled Egypt. Plutarch informs
name is supposed to be derived from Chanaan. Hence
it was inferred that Chanaan was the inventor of cic-
Biistry, to which he a9i(ed his own name. Whether
the Hermes of the Greeks was Chanaan, or his son
Mizraim, it is impossible to decide; but lo Hermes is
assigned the invention of chtmitlrif, or tit art ofmatit^
gold, by almost the unanimous consent of the adepts."
Dr. Webster says, " The orthography of this word has
undergone changes thmugh a mere ignorance of its
origin, than which nothing can be more obvious. It
it the Arabic iimta, the occult art or science, fram
toinai, to conceal. This was originally the art or
science now called alchemy ; the arl of converting
baser metals into gold." Webaler says the correct or.
thography is cAimulry.]
Burning far Witchcraft. — When and nhere was
the last person burned to deoth for witchcraft in
England P W. R.
[We beUeve the last ease of burning for witchcraft
was at Bury St Edmunds in 1664, tried by Sir
Matthew Hale, although some accounts sUte that the
victims. Amy Duny and Rose Callender, were executed.
In the same year Alice Hudson was burnt at York for
having received lot. at a time from his Satanic ma-
jesty. Tlie last case of burning in Scotland was in
Sutherland, a. d. 1T32 : the judge was Captain David
Ross, of Little Dean. At Glatus, in Ireland, a servant
prl was burnt so late as 1786. The last authenticated
instance of the swimming ordeal occurred in 1785,
and is quoted by Mr. Sternberg from a Narthanq^im
Mercury of that year:— "A poor woman named
Sarali Bradshaw, of Mcars Asbby, who was accused of
being a witch, in order to prove her innocence, sub-
mitted to the ignominy of being dipped, when she
immediately sunk to the bottom of the pond, which
was deemed to be an incontestable proof that she was
The Small City Companies. — Where does the
fullest information appear respecting their eartf
condition, &c. ? Herbert's work only occasiondly
refers to them, and I am nware of many incidental
notices of them in Histories of London, &c. ; but
The companies of Pewterers or Bakers, for ex-
ample. S.
[Beside the incidental notices to be found in Stow,
Uaitlend, and Seymour, our correspondent must con-
sult the Harleian MSS. ; and if be will turn to the
Index volume at p. 294., he will find references to the
following compniiies:— Bakers', Drapers', Painters',
Stainers', Pinners', Scriveners', Skinners', Wai-cband-
lers'. Wharfingers', Weavers', and other miscellaneous
notes relating to the city of London generally.]
Roasseau and Boileaa. — Are there any full and
complete English translations of Rousseau's Con-
fessions and Boileau's Satires f Alledius.
[The following translations have been publislied : —
The Canfiuioni of J. J. Smiiteaii, iu two Parts, Loudon,
12mo., five vols., 1790; Boileau's Solirej, 8vo.,180a:
see also his Worhi made English by Mr. Ozell and
others, two vols. Svo., London, 1711-12, and three
vols. 8vo., London, 1714.]
Bishop KenneU's lifS. Diarg.—WbeTt is Bishop
Keunett B MS. Diary, from which his often-cited
desci^ption of Dean Swift is taken, to be found f
Not. 12. 1853.]
NOTES Airo QUEKIES.
9 formerly in the poasesBioc
Lansdowne, and ia now in the British Museum.
I have never been abie
F. B,
(VoI.viU., p. 364.)
D bj ^ Walter Scott
win oe louna hi p, -s^jm, in Lansdowne MS. 1024.,
which forms the third and laat Tolume of Bishop
Kennelt's " Materials for an Ecclesiastioal History of
England."]
Ther
a ben
(Vd.Yi., p.S96.; Vol. vu., pp. 12. 134.200.373.)
It may be worth recording, that ftinong the
MS, papers of the late James Boswell, nhich were
I believe sold by auction by Messrs. Sotbeby and
Co., there was the office copy and probate of the
will of Milton's widow. She was described as
Elizabeth Milton of Namptwicb, widow ; and it
was dated the 27th of August, 1727. In the will
she beqneatlied all her effects, after the payment
of her debts, to be divided betveen her nieces and
nephews in Namptwich ; and named aa her execu-
tors, Samuel Acton and John AUcock, Esqs. Pro-
bate was granted to John Allcock, October 10,
1727,
Beside this, there was a bond or acquittance,
dated 1680, from Richard Mynshiill, described of
Wistaston in Cheshire, frame-work knitter, for
loo;, received of Mrs. Elizabeth Milton in con-
sideration of a transfer to her of a lease for lives,
or ninety-nine years, of a messuage at Brindley
in Cheshire, held under Sir Thomas Wilbroham.
Tbere were also receipts or releases from Mil-
ton's three daughters, Anne Milton, Mary Milton,
and Deborah Ckrke (to the last of which Abraham
Clarke was a party) : the first two dated Feb. 22,
1674i the last, March 27 in the same year; for
1001. each, received of Elizabeth Milton their
Htep-mother in consideration of their shares of
their father's estate. The sums were, with the
consent of Christopher Milton and Richard Powell,
both described of the Inner Temple, to be die-
posed of in the purchase of rent-charges or an-
nuities for the benefit of the said daughters.
Two of these documents appear to be now in
the possession of your correspondents Mb. Mabss
and Ma. Huches; but I have met with no men-
tion hitherto of the destination of the others.
These may seem trifling minutiEe to notice, but
nolbing can fturly be considered unimportant
which may lead to the elucidation of the domestic
history of Milton. S. W, Sibger,
MickUbam,
doubt that, as your correspon-
dent suggests, the judicial oath was originallj
taken without kissina; the book, but with the form
of laying the right hand upon it ; and, moreorer,
that this custom is of Pagan.origitt. AJnoDgst the
Greeks, oatha were frequently accompanied hj
sacrifice ; and it whs the custom to lay the hands
upon the victim, or upon the altar, thereby calUng
to witness the deity by whom the oath was swom..
So Juvenal, Sal. siv. 218. r
" Falsua erit testis, vendet perjuria summa
Eiigua, et Cereria tangens aramque pedemque."
The Christians under the later Roman em-
perors adopted from the Greeks a similar cere-
mony. In the well-known ease of Omjehund r.
Barker, heard in Michaelmas Term, 1744, and re-
ported in I Ali, 27„ the Solicitor- General quoted
a passage from Selden, which gives us some in-
formaUon on this point :
" Mittimus hie, principibus Christianls, ut ei his.
torlis eatis obviis liquet, solennia fuisse et peculiaris
jiiramenta, ut per vultura sancti Lucas, per pedem
Chiisti, per sanctum liunc vel ilium, ^usmodt alia
: Inolem
: aligBo mis aat lactis aul pnm-
ita laltmtiora Otriilianorum
juramenta Jierent, aat tactli laeroianclia euanffcHit, aat
inipfcdi, aut in eomni proientia tjtonu ad peclat amola,
lublata aatprolensai alque is corporaliter seu personor
liter juramentum pisstnT'i dictum est, ut ab juramentis
per epistolam, aut in seriptis solummodo prsstilis dis-
Lord Coke tells us, in the passage quoted at
p. 364., that this was called the corporal oath,
because the witness " toucheth with hia hand some
part of the Holy Scripture;" but the better
opinion seems to be, that it was so called from the
ancient euslom of l.iying the hands upon the cor-
porale, or cloth which covered the sacred elements,
by which the moat solemn oiith was taken in
As to the form of kissing the book, I am in-
clined to think that it is not of earlier date than
the latter part of the sixteenth century, and that
it was first prescribed as part of the ceremony of
taking the oaths of allegiance and supremacy. In
the Harl. Misc., vol, vi, p. 282. (cdil. 1810), ia on
account of the trial of ^targa^et Fell nnd George
Vox, for refusing to take the oalli of allegiance,
followed by " An Answer to Bishop Lancelot
Andrewe's Sermon concerning Swearing," At
p. 298., Fox brings forward instances of conscien-
tiouB scruples among Cbristians in former times,
respecting the taking of oaths. He says :
" Did not the Pope, when he had got up over the
cburclies, give forth both oath and curse, with bell.
NOTES AlTD QUEEIES. [No. 211.
Ifov. 12. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
473
mends readers a proper ablution of their hands
before turning the consecrated leaves :
** Utere me, lector, mentisque in sede locato ;
Cumque llbrum petis hinc, sit tibi Iota manus !*'
Saith Library,
Less lenient are the imprecations commemorated
by Don Martenne and Wanlej. The one in-
scribed on the blank leaf of a Sacramentarj of
the ninth century is to the following effect :
** Si quis eum (librum) de raonasterio aliquo in-
genio non redditurus, abstraxerit, cum Juda proditore,
Anna et Ca'ipha, portionem seternae damnationis acci-
piat. Amen I Amen I Fiat! fiat!" — Voyage Litte^
rairci p. 67.
That is fierce and fiery, and in very earnest. A
MS. of the Bodleian bears this other inscription,
to the same import :
** Liber Sanctae Marise de Fonte Robert!. Qui eum
abstulerit aut vendiderit aut quamlibet ejus
partem absciderit, sit anathema maranatha.'*
Canisius, in his Antiques Lectiones (i. ii. p. 3.
320.), transcribes another comminatory distich,
copied from a MS. of the Saint Gall library :
" Auferat hunc librum nuUus hinc, omne per sevum,
Cum Gallo partem quisquis habere cupitl"
Such recommendations are now no longer in
use, and seem rather excessive. But whoever has
witnessed the extreme carelessness, not to say im-
probity, of some of the readers admitted into the
public continental libraries, who scruple not to
soil, spoil, and even purloin the most precious
and rare volumes, feels easily reconciled to the
anathema maranatha of the ninth and tenth cen-
turies.
P.S. — Excuse my French-English.
Fhilabete Chasles, Mazarinaeus.
Paris, Palais de Tlnstitut.
LIVEBIES WOBN, AND MENIAL SERVICES PERFORMED,
BT GENTIiEMEN.
(Vol. vi., p. 146.)
However remarkable the conduct of the rustic
esquire of Downhara may appear in the present
day, when he accepted and wore the livery of
his neighbour the Knight-Baronet of Houghton
Tower, it was a common practice for gentlemen
of good birth and estate to accept and wear, and
even to assume without solicitation, upon state
occasions, the livery of an influential neighbour,
friend, or relation, in testimony of respect and
affection for the giver of the livery.
Thus it appears in the Diary of Nicholas Asshe-
ton that, in 1617, to the Court at Mirescough
" Cooz Assheton came with his gentlemanlie ser-
vants as anie was there," and that the retinue of
menial servants in attendance upon Sir Kichard
Houghton was graced by the presence of more
than one country gentleman of good family.
Baines, in his History of Lancashire, vol. li.
p. 366., also relates concerning Humphrey Che«
tham, that —
"In 1635 he was nominated to serve the office of
sheriff* of the county, and discharged the duties thereof
with great honour, several gentlemen of birth and
estate attending and wearing his livery at the assizes,
to testify their respect and affection for him.**
Evelyn, in his Diary, gives a similar account of
the conduct of " divers gentlemen and persons of
quality " in the counties of Surrey and Sussex :
*' 1634. My father was appointed sheriff for Surrej
and Sussex before they were disjoyned. He had 116
servants in liverys, every one livery*d in greene sattin
doublets. Divers gentlemen and persons of quality
waited on him in the same garbe and habits which at
that time (when thirty or forty was the usual retinue
of the high sheriff) was esteemed a great matter. Nor
was this out of the least vanity that my father exceeded
(who was one of the greatest decliners of it); but be-
cause he could not refuse the civility of his friends and
relations, who voluntarily came themselves, or sent in
their servants.**
The practice of assuming the livery of a relation
or friend, and of permitting servants also to wear
it, appears to have existed in England in the time
of Kichard II., and to have had the personal ex-
ample of this sovereign to support it. He seems,
however, to have thereby excited the disappro-
bation of many of his spiritual and temporal peers.
I produce the following passage with some hesi-
tation, because it is by no means certain that any
one of the liveries thus assumed by Richard was a
livery of cloth :
'M?*** Richard II. a.d. 1393-4.
** Richard Count d*Arunde1l puis le comencement de
cest present Parlcment disoit au Roy, en presence des
Achevesques de Canterbirs et d*Everwyk, le Due de
Gloucestr*, les Evesques de Wyncestre et Saresbirs, le
Count de Warrewyk et autres
" Item q le Roy deust porter la Livere de coler le
Due de Guyene et de Lancastr*.
" Item q gentz de retenue de Roi portent mesme la
Livere
" A qei iire Sr le Roi alors respond! au dit Count
q bientot aprcs la venue son dit uncle de
Guyene quant il vient d'Espaign darrein en Engleterre
q mesme nre Sr le Roi prist le Coler du cool mesme
son uncle et mist a son cool demesne et dist q*il vor-
roit porter et user en signe de bon amour d*entier coer
entre eux auxi come il fait les Liveres ses autres uncles.
" Item (quant au tierce) nre Sr le Roi disoit q ceo
fuist de counge de luy et de sa volunte q gentz de sa
retenue portent et usent mesme la Livere de Coler.**-—
HoUs of Parliament, ^ol. iii. p. 313.
" Richard Earl of Arundel, afler the commencement
of this present parliament, said to the King in the pre-
sence of the archbbhops of Canterbury and of York,
474
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 211.
the Duke of Gloucester, the Bishops of Winchester
and Salisbury, the Earl of Warwick, and others ....
« Item. That the King uses to wear the livery of the
collar of the Puke of Guienne and of Lancaster.
'* Item. That persons of the retinue of the King
wear the same livery.
** To which our lord the King then answered to the
said earl ....
** That soon afler the coming of his said uncle of
Guienne, when he came from Spain last into England,
that himself our lord the King took the collar from the
neck of the same his uncle and put it on his own neck,
and said that he vowed to wear and to use it in sign
of good love of whole heart between them also, as he
did the liveries of his other uncles.
** Item (as to the third). Our lord the King said that
it was by leave from him, and by his wish, that per-
sons of his retinue wear and use the same livery of the
collar."
This practice of one of our early soverei^s
seems to afford a precedent for the mode in which
divers gentlemen and persons of quality volun-
tarily showed civility towards Richard Evelyn,
and for that in which several gentlemen of birth
and estate testified their respect and affection for
Humphrey Chetham. Nicholas Assheton also ap-
pears to have the support of this royal precedent
m so far as relates to his accepting and wearing
the livery of a friend and neighbour ; and the
custom of his day evidently lends its sanction to
his forming, upon a state occasion, one of the body
of menial servants in attendance upon Sir Richard
Houghton, when he went to meet the king.
Another passage in the Bolls of Parliament
seems to afford a respectable civic precedent for
the services performed t>j Nicholas Assheton and
other liveried gentlemen, when they waited at the
lords' table at Houghton Tower :
«« nth Edward III. a.d. 1337.
** A nre Seigneur le Roy et a son conseil monstre
Richard de Bettoyne de Loundres, qe come au Corone-
ment iire Seigneur le Roy q ore est il adonge Meire de
Loundres fesoit i'office de Botiller ove ccc e lx vadletz
vestutz d'une sute chescun portant en sa mayn un coupe
blanche d*argent come autres Meirs de Loundres ountz
faitz as Coronementz des pgenitours nostre Seigneur
le Roy dent memoire ne court pars ct le fee q appen-
doit a eel jorne c'est asavoir un coupe d'or ove la
covercle et un ewer d*or enamaille lui fust livere p
assent du Counte de Lancastre et d'autres Grantz
qu*adonges y furent du Conseil nostre Seigneur le Roy
p la mayn Sire Ro'bt de Wodehouse et ore vient en
estreite as Viscountes de Londres hors del Chekker de
faire lever des Biens et Chateux ^u dit Richard
.-T^^ixZi. xiis. vld. pur le fee avant dit dont il prie ne*
ini
remedie lui soit ordeyne.
" Et le Meire et Citoyens d'Oxenford ount p point
de chartre q'ils vendront a Londres a I'Encorronement
d'eyder le Meire de Loundres pur servir a la fest et
toutz jours Vount usee. Et si i plest a nre Seigneur le
Roy et a son Conseil nous payerons volonters la fee
issent qe nous soyons descharges de la service.** -^ i2o£b
of Parliament, vol. ii. p. 96.
** To our lord the King and to his Council sheweth
Richard de Bettoyne of London, that whereas at the
coronation of our lord the King that now is, he their
mayor of London performed the office of butler with
three hundred and sixty valets clothed of one suit each,
bearing in his hand a white cup of silver, as other
mayors of London have done at the coronations of the
progenitors of our lord the King, whereof memory
runneth not, and the fee which appertained to this
day's work, that is to wit, a cup of gold with the cover,
and a ewer of gold enamelled, were delivered to him
by assent of the Earl of Lancaster, and of the other
grandees who then there were of the council of our
lord the King, by the hand of Sire Robert de Wode-
house, and now comes in estreat to the viscounts of
London out of the Checquer, to cause to take the
goods and chattels of the said Richard, eighty-nine
pounds twelve shillings and sixpence, for the fee afbr&>
said, whereof he prays that remedy be ordained to him.
*' And the mayor and citizens of Oxford have, by
point of charter, that they shall come to London to
the coronation, to help the mayor of London to serve
at the feast, and always have so done. And if it please
our lord the King and his Council, we will pay wil-
lingly the fee, provided that we be discharged of the
service.**
There can be little doubt that the citizens of
Oxford bore their own travelling expenses ; and it
seems probable that the citizens of London and
Oxford bore the cost of the three hundred and
sixty suits of clothes and three hundred and sixty
silver cups ; but this is scarcely sufBcient to ac-
count for their willingness to pay a sum of money
equivalent to about fifteen hunted pounds in the
present day, in order to be relieved from the
honourable service of waiting clothed in uniform,
each with a silver cup in his hand, helping the
Mayor of London to perform the office of butler
at coronation feasts. However this may be, it is
still somewhat remarkable that, in the seventeenth
century, Nicholas Assheton of Downham, Esq.,
and other gentlemen of Lancashire, upon a less
important occasion than a coronation feast, dressed
in the livery of Sir Richard Houghton and volun-
tarily attended, day after day, at the lords* table
at Houghton Tower, and served the lords with
biscuit, wine, and jelly. J. Lewblyn Curtis.
FEMALE PARISH CLERKS.
(Vol. viii., p. 338.)
The cases of Rex v. Stubbs and Olive r. Ingram,
mentioned in the following extracts from Pri-
deaux*s Guide to Churchwardens, p. 4., may be of
service :
** Generally speaking, all persons inhabitants of the
parish are liable to serve the office of churchwarden.
Nov. 12. 1853.]
NOTES AND QtrBBIES.
■ad from the cawt of Rex 0. Stubbs (2 T. R. S95. ;
1 Botl. 10.), in which it wbs held that a woinan is not
exempt from serving the oSioe of oveneer of the pimr,
and Olive c. Ingram (2 Str. 1114.), in which it was
held that ahe may be a parlsb sextan, there may,
perhaps, be some ground for coateading a woman u
not exempt from Ibu duty."
RuaSBLL GOLE.
A few jeaia ieo (she muj still be go) there was
a gentlewoman ^e parish clerk of some church in
IjoodoQ ; perhaps some of jour readers maj be
able to say where : a deputy officiated, escepting
occasiouaUy. But many such instances haie oc-
curred.
In a note in Prldeaux's Directions to Church-
vmrdeia (late edition), the following references
are given as to the power of women to fill paro-
chial and other such offices : Res v. Stubbs,
2 T. R. 359. i Oliye v. Icgram, 2 Strange, 1 1 U.
H. T. Eu-acoMBE.
Rectory, Clyst St. George.
I b^ to inform T. S. M. that when I went to
reside near Lincoln in I82S, a woman was clerk to
the parish of Sudbrooke, and died in that capacity
a very few years after. I do not remember her
name at this moment, but I could get all par-
ticulars if required on my return to Sudbrooke
Holme. BicH. Elusoh.
Balmoral Hotel, Broadatairi, Kent.
I am able to mention another instance of a
woman acting as parish clerk at Ickbargh, in the
county of Norfolk. It is tbe parish to Buckenham
Hal!, the seat of the Honourable Francis Baring,
near Thetford. A woman there has long officiated
as parish clerk, and still continues acting in that
capacity. F, R.
I beg to refer Y. S. M. to the following passage
in Madame d'Arblay's Diary, vol. v. p. 246. :
" There was at Collumpton only a poor wretched
ragged noman, a female clerk, to show ui this churcb :
she pays a man for doing the duty, while she receive*
the salary in right of her deceased husband I "
M. L. G.
At Miaterton, near Crewkerne, in Somerselsbire,
Mary Mounford was clerk for more than thirty
years. She gave up the office about the year
1S32, and is now in Beamineler Union, just eighty-
nine years old. Hebbebt L. Au.bn.
lecfcd by Mb. Bepb, permit me to Bdd sisty-five
DaulianmiTUlrel. Herrick.
Ddigktfui. Shelley.
Duiky-bnma. Trench.
£ar^. C. Smith.
Elegiac. Dibdin.
Enaimmred. Sbelley.
Fabled. By con.
Fair. Smart.
Gr«/«i.t Lodge.
Gurgling. Lloyd.
Hallaie-d. Moore.
HMHdrid-thToatid. Tenny-
InBinlAt. Hurdis.
Letbian. Bromley.
Lave-Jearntd. Thomson.
LoBt-tiek. Warton.
Gib-
LvUiiiff. AnoD.^
Mdiov. Strangfbrd.
Midnight miailrel. Logan.
Moody. Hurdis.
Nightly. Bidlake.
Pandimim. Drummond.
Panged. Hood.
Pitiful. Herrick.
Plaintfid. Drummond.
Qttasering. Poole.
Qverulmu. Kennedy.
Rapturmii. Southey.
Rural. Dry den.
Sab!e.\\ Drummond.
Sadly-pltaiing.^ Anon.
Secret. Shelley.
Stiy. Chaucer.
Sequeilrred. J. Montgo-
Shg. Ddlaa.
SilaeT-tujied. Carey.
Simp^. Derrick,
Sobbiiiy. Flanchg.
Soft- tuned. Whaley.
POETICAL EPITHETS C
(Vol.vii.,p.397.i Vol.v
I N1G1ITIIIOAI.E.
iTo the one hundred and ten epithets poeti-
cally applied to the nightingale and its song, col-
■ring.
Sarroa-ioolhing. Shaw.
Sprightly. Elton.
Saal-brtotted. Beaumont
and Fletcher.
Sweet-tongutd. Anon,**
Sylvan tyren. PattisoD.
Tearful Potter.
Tendtrat. WiSen.
Tkraeian. Lewis.
TrampiiTHng. Hurdle
Vnadomtd. Hurdii;
Unhappy. Croiall.
Wat':hf>J. Philips.
Witr-hing. Proelor.
Wno^and. Smith.
Wretched. Shirley.
Wronged. P. Fletcher.
Yearly. Drayton.
Young. Lewis.
The character of the mere song alone has been
described in the following terms :
Mdodiautlay. Potter.
Lofty long. Yalden.
A tlorm of tound. Shelley.
Imprative lay. Merry.
SwiBiag tloa. Kirk White.
Tremidouily ddw. C. Smith.
Wildmdody. Shelley.
Thick mehdioni note. Lloyd.
Ifymnoflorc. Logan.
Melting lay. Henley.
Marmmiou, woe. Fomfret.
Well, tnned warble. Shakspeare.
• Blackwood's iVIag., Jan. 183B.
t " I regard the prettie, greeful bard
With tearful!, jet delightfull, notes complaine,"
HeliconUk
} Lays of the Minneiingers.
§ Weekly Visitor, July, 1835.
[{ " Night's sable birds, which plain when othen
sleep."— namnantia.
^ EveDiag Elegy. — Pottical Calendar.
** Harleiao Miscellany, vol.viiL
KOTES AND QUEBIES.
[No. 211.
Sadly iweet. Potter.
Varivl ttralni. Pope,
Thick-warbkd «r>l». MUtnn.
W. PlHKKHTOH.
Photographic Exhibition. — We understand that
the Photographic Society has mnde nrranjiementa
for an exhibition of photoj;raphs in the metropolis
during the months of Jnnuary and Februnry next.
The exhibition will not be coniined to the works of
native phot ogrnpb era, but will comprise specimens
of the moat eminent foreign arCi.its, who have been
Epeciallj invited to contribute. From the advances
which have been made in tliis favourite art, even
since the recent exhibition in the rooms of the
Sodety- of Arts, we may confidently nntiulpnte
tW tne display on the present ocoaaion will be
«ne of the highest interest.
Hoai natch Li^ht it obitructed by a Lens f — Can
any of your scientific correspondenla furnish me
with an approximation to tiie quantity of light
which is transmitted through an ordinary double
achromatic lens, say of Ross, Yoightlander, or any
oiher celebrated maker? Loi.
Stureoscopie Aaglei. — I cannot agree to my
opponent's assumed amendment (P) (Vol. viii.,
p. 419.) space, for the simple reason that it would
be virtually abandoning tbe whole of the points
in dispute between us ; when farther discussion,
and more mature considei-ation, only tend to con-
\ince me more firmly of the correctness of the
propositions I have advocated, viz. ;
IsL That circumstances mas and do arise in
which a better result is obtained in producing
stereographs, when the chord of the angle of
generation is more or less than 2^ inches.
2nd. Tbnt the positions of the cnmcra should
noi be parallel but radial.
I certslnly thought that I had, as I intended,
expressed the fact that I treat the cameras pre-
cisely aa tico eyee, and moreover I still contend
that they should be so treated ; my object being
to present to each eye exactly such a picture aim
in suck a direction at would be presented under
eerlain eircumslances. The plane of delineation
beio^ a flat, instead of a curved surface, has
nothing whatever to do with this point, because
the curves of the retinas are not portions of one
curve-having a common centre, but each-having
ita own centre in tbe axis of the pupil. That a
plane surface for receiving the image is not so
good ns n spherical one would be, is not disputed;
but this observation applies to photographs iinirer-
xiUy, and is only put up with as the lesser of two
evils. A plane surface necessarily contracts the
field of view to such a space aa could be cut out
of the periphery of a hollow sphere, the versed
sine of which bears but a small ratio to its chord.
There is another misunderstanding into which
my opponent has fallen, viz. the part of tbe ohjeot
to be aelineated, which should form the centre of
radiation, is not the most contiguous visible point,
but the most remote principal point of observation.
I perceive that this is tbe cose from two illustra-
tions lie was kind enough to forward me, being
stereographs of a T square, placed with the points
of junction towards the observer, and the tall re-
ceding from him ; and in one cose tbe angle of
the souare is made the centre of radiation, and
while its distance from the camera Is only si- •""■♦
the points of delineation a — -■ ' — '
feet apart.
To push an argument to tbe extreme to test its
value, is quite right ; but this goes far beyond the
extreme, if I may be allowed such a very Hiber-
3 than three
No object, however tninulc, can be clearly seen
if brought nearer to the eyes than a certain point,
because it will be what is lechnicnlly called out of
fouus. It is true that this point diifers in different
individuals, but tbe average distance of healthT
vision is 10 inches. How, adopting Ma. Mebxitt s
own standard of 2^ Inches between the eyes, it is
clear that, supposing Ibe central point had been
rightly selected, the distance between the cameras
was only double what might have been token as
an extreme distance. It is scarcely necessary to
suggest what a person devoid of taste (In whioU
category I am no doubt included) might do in
producing monstrosiiies by adopting the radial
method, as such an one is not very likely to pro-
duce good results at all.
I now address myself to another accusation. It
is quite true that I am unacquainted with the
scholastic diamas of perspective, but equally true
that I am familiar wiih the facts thereof, aa any
one must be who has studied optical and geome-
trical science generally; and while I concur in
tbe propositions as enunciated for a onc-e;rd pic-
ture, I by^ no means agree to the assumption that
the " vanishing points, ' in the two stereographs
taken radially with the necessary precautions,
" would be BO far apart, that they could not in the
stereoscope flow into one ;" on the contrary, direct
experiment shows me, what reason also suggests,
that they do flow into one as completely <u in
nature when viewed by both eyes.
I put the proposition thus, because I do not
hesitate to avow that in nature, as interpreted by
binocular vision, these points do not absoliUcly,
but only approximately, flow into one; otherwise
one eye would be as effective as two.
I have not the smallest objection to my views
being considered '■ false to art," as, alas! her fidelity
to nature is by no means beyond sus^cion.
Not. 12. 18S3.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 477
Laatlj, as to the model- like appearance of stereo- doirn tills Query. What could have led jour cor-
grapbs tnken at a large angle, Tor the fact I need respondent J. G. Fitch to use so peculiarly inap-
oqIj refer the objector to moat of the beautiful proprinle a sjnonjm for Martin Luther as " ttlQ
foreign views now bo abundant in our opticians' great Iconoclnat ? " Has he any historical evi-
sbops : for the reason, is it not palpable that dence for Luther's breaking a single image P
increasing the width of the eyes is analogous to It is not to defend Lutber, but to point out ft
decreasing the size of the object P and if naturally defect in his teaching, as it is regarded by the ad-
we cannot "perceive at one view three sides of a herents of other Frutestant churches, that Dr.
cake, two beads of a drum, nor any other like MaclHine has said, in his note on Book iv. cb. i.
absurdity," it ia only because we do not use ob' § IS. ofMosbeim:
jecU sufficiently^ tmdlto permit us to do so. Even .. n ;, evident, from severs! p^ssges in Iha writings
vhile 1 am irritiDg this, I have before me a small gf Lutlier, that he wns bv no means STerse lo t)ie use
rectangular inkhoTder about 1^^ inches square, and of images', but that, on the contrary, be looked upon
distant from my eyes about one foot, in which them as adapted to eieite and animate the devatian of
the very absurd phenomenon complained of does the people."
exist ; the front, top, and bolk sides being perfectly Mosheim, and Merle D'Aublgn^, and probably
visible at once : and bein^ one of those obstinate ^^^^^ historian of the Reformation in Gei
fellows who will persist i" judgi-g personally from ^^ i,e died as witnesses for the notorious
e:tperience .f possible, I lear 1 shall be found in- f,,<.t, that Carlstadt excited the citizens of Wittem-
corn-ible on the points on which your correspon- ^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^^^ ;^ ;„ their churches when
dent las so kindly endeavoured to enlighten me. l^[J^^^ „^^ concealedin the Castle of Wartbunj,
Geo.
Luiher was concealed in the Castle of Wartburg,
id that he rebuked and checked these proceed-
To introduce Clonda Cfal viii., p. 451.) aa de- '^ga "" ''^^ return. See Mosheim, as cited before,
sired by your correspondent 2., the negotiv'
D'Aubigne, book ii. ch. vii. and viii. H. W.
be treated ,n the skv by solu. on of cyanide of po- jj j^^j_^„ y. ^Vol. viii.. p. 340.).-Mj
taasium laid on in tjie form desired w.th a camels g.^at- great-grand mother was a sister of Bishop
hair pencil. This discharges a portion of the re- ^. = ^^^^^ consecrated to the see of Leighlii
duced silver, and allows the l.ght o penetrate ; ^^% ^ jjarch 8, 1690. He, I know, was a
bu great care .s required to stop the action by ^^,^^j^g ^f j^^ j^^^ Urban Vigors. An
well washing in water before the process has gone Urbiin Vigors of Ballycormack, co. Wexford, also
too far. White clouds are produced by pamtuig ^^^j^ » great-gwat-aunt, a Miss Thomas,
them in vtilh a black pigment mixed in size. ^j^^^^ ^^ y\^^^^ Thomas, Esq., of Limerick. I
Ueo. bHADSOLT. j|,Dy]j^ equally with your correspondent Y. S. M^
wish to know any particulars of the " Vigors"
»enl£erf to fHinat «lierW. fa™''! i ^""^ should be delighted to enter into
correspondence with bim.
Death of Edward IT. (Vol. viii., p. 387.). — W. StotNB Si.oasb-Evam».
P. C. S. S. has noticed with considerable surprise Cornwotlhy Viiarnge, Totoes.
the very slrange assertion of Ml. C. M. Inglbhi ...
with reference to the murder of Edward II. at Portrait of Baretti (Vol. mi., p. 411.). — Jji
Berkeley Castle, viz. that " Echard and Rapin are reply to Ma. G. R. Cobnbb b Query regarding Sir
silent, botli as to the event and the locality." If Joshua Reynolds picture of Baretti, I can give
Me. Inglkbi will again refer to Echard (vol i. bim the information he requires.
p. 341., edit. 1718) and to Rapin (vol.iii. p. 147., This very interesting portrait is now at my
edit. 1749),hewill perceive that the two historians brother's, Holland House, Kensington,
record " both the event and the locality." My lale father. Lord Holland, had a pretty
Mb. Inclbbt did not perhaps consider that the picture of the late Lord Hertford s mother (I be-
transaction in question took place during the "eve), or some near relation of his. Not being
reign of Edward III. ; and is, therefore, not to be connected with that family, my father oflered it to
sought for at the close of that of Edward //. Lord Hertford, leaving it to his lordship to g'TO
(where probably Ma. C. M. lNGi.BBr looked for him such picture oa he might choose in exchange.
it), but among the occurrences in the time of Some time afterwards this portrait of Baretti wft»
Edward III. flla. C. M. Inglebt will assuredly sent, und was much prized and admired. It re-
find it there, not only in Echard and Rapin, but presents Baretti reaifing a small hook, which be
in every other History of England since the date bolds close to his fuce with bothhanda; he is in a
of the "event." P. C. S. S. wbite coat, and the whole carries with it a cer-
tainty of resemblance. This occurred about
Luther no Iconoclaat (Vol. viii., p. 335.). — An twenty-five years ago. Perhaps it may interert
occasional contributor wishes the Editor to note your readers to learn that our distinguished
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 211.
e inter, Watts, hw punted for my brother, Lord
lUond, a. portrait of soother distinguished
ItaliaD, Mr. ranizzi, and pendant to the former.
He is repreaented leaning forward and writing,
and the likeness is verj striking, C. Fox.
AddiiOD Road.
Patat^e in Sophoctes. — In Vol. viii., p. 73., ap-
pears an article by Mr, Bdcktoh, in which he
quatea the foUowliig conclusion of a passage ia
Sophoclei :
"'Or^i fpimt
ei&t Hryti irpij lerar
npiaatir f i\iyofTir xfirar irtit irat."
This, rirpii ariafopi ap/itl^my, he translates, —
"Whose mind the God leads to destruction ; but that
Ai (Iht God) practises this a short time without dHtro;-
ing Bucb an one."
Bnt for the Italics it might have been an over-
tight : thev would seem to linplj he has some
authority for his translation. I have no edition
of Sophocles by me to discover, but surely no
critical scholar can acquiesce in it. The only
aetive sense of-wpiiTatw I remember at the moment
is to exact. It surely should be translated, " And
Ae, toAtm the Ood so leads to i.TTi, fares a very short
time without it." The best translation of Sttj is,
perhaps, infatuation. Moreover, how is the above
translation reconciled with the very superlative
h\tfe<rT»r f M.
Sneers of the same Name (Vol. viii., p. 338.).
— It 19 not unusual in old pedigrees to find two
brothers or two sisters with the same Christian
name ; but it is unusual to find more tiian two
living at the same time with only one Christian
name between them : this, however, occurs in the
familv of Gawdy of Gawdy Hall, Norfolk. Thos.
Gawdy married three wives, and by each had a son
Thomas. The eldest was a serjeant-at-law, and
died in 1556. The second was a judge of the
Queen's Bench, and died in November, 158T or
1388. The third is known as Sir Francis Gawdy,
Chief Justice of the Common Pleas ; but he also
X baptized by the name of Thomas. Lord Coke,
1 succeeded him as Chief Justice, says (Co. Lit.
" If ■ man be baptized by the name of Thomas, and
after at his canGrmation by the bishop he is named
John, he may purchase by his name of confirmation ;
and this was the case of Sir Franeia Gawdie, late C. J.
of C. B., whose nanie of baptism was Thomas, and his
name of confirmation Frsucij; and that name of Francis,
by the advice of all the judges in anno 36 Henry VIII.
(1544-5), he did bear and after used in all his pur-
chases and grants. "
_ The opportunity afforded by the Roman Catho-
lic Church of thus changing the baptismal name
may help to account for this practice, which pro-
bably arose from a desire to continue the particular
name in the famllr. If one of two sons with the
same name of baptism died in childhood, the other
continued the name : if both lived, one of them
might change his name at confirmation. There is
no name given at confirmation according to t.hfl
form of the Church of England. F. B.
High Batch and Low Dutch (Vol. viii., p.413.).
— Considerable misapprehension appears to have
arisen with regard to these expressions, from the
fact of the German word Devtsch being some*
times erroneously understood to mean Dutch.
But German scholars very well know that in
Germany nothing is more common than to speak
of Hoch Deultch and Nieder Deulach (Hi^h Ger-
man and Low German), as applied respectively to
that langu^e when grammatically spoken and
correctly pronounced, and to the bad grammar
and worse pronunciation indulged in by many of
the provincials, and also by the lower class of
people in some of the towns where High German
IS supposed to prevail. Thus, for example, Dresden
is regarded as the head-quarters oT Hoch Deatach,
because there the language is spoken and pro-
nounced with the roost purity : Berlin, also, aa
regards the well-educated classes, boasts of the
Hoch Devtsch; hut the common people (daa
Volb) of the Prussian capital indulge in a direct
called Nieder Dcutseh, and speak and pronounce
the language as though they were natives of some
remote province. Now, the instance of Berlin
I take to be a striking illustration of the meaning
of these expressions, as both examples are com-
prised in the case of this city.
The German word for " German " is Dentseh ;
for "Dutch" the German ia HoUSndisch ; apd I
presume it is from the similarity of Deii(.scA and
Ihitch that this common error is so frequently
committed. For the future let it be remembered,
that Dutch is a term which has no relation wliat-
ever to German ; and that " High German " is
that language spoken and written in its purity,
"Low German' all the dialects and mispronun-
ciations which do not come up to the standard of
correctness. Jambs Spencb Habrx.
8. Arthur Street.
TraTiilationa of the Prayer Book into French
(Vol. vii., p. 382.; Vol. viii., p. 343,). — Besides
the editions already mentioned, a 4to. one was
published at London in 1689, printed bv B.
Everingham, and sold by B. Bentiey and M.
Magnes. Prefixed to it is the placet of the king,
dated 6th October, 1662, with the subsequent
approbation of Stradling, chaplain to Gilbert
(Sheldon), Bishop of London, dated 6th April,
1663.
It seems (" N. & Q.," Vol. vii., p. 92.) that a
Not. 12. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
479
cop7 is in tbe British Musenin ; one te also In mj
posseBBion.
I presume tbat there were other editions between
the jears 1663 and 1689. H. P.
Divining-rod (Tol. tUI,, p. 293.). — For > full
account of the divinJne rod see La Fht/sigae
oeculle, ou Traite de la Sagiietle_ Dininutoire, ^c.,
par Fere L. de Vallemont, a work hy no means
uncommon, having pasaed throuoh several editions.
Mine is "k Paris, chez Jean Boudot, avec priv.
1709, in 12°. avec figures," with the addition of a
"Traite de la Connoiasance des Causes Mag-
n^tiques, &c., par un Curieux."
A Cornish lady informs me that the Cornish'
miners to this day use the divining-rod in tlie way
repreaeuied in Sg. 1. of tbe above-mentioned work.
R. J. R.
In tfc 35l3t number of the Monthly Magazine,
dated Alarcb 1st, 1821, there is a letter to the
editor from W. Partridge, dated Boibridge,
Gloucester, giving several instances of his having
successfully used tbe divining-rod for the purpose
of discovering water. He says the gift is not
possessed by more than one in two thousand, and
attributes the power to electricity. Those persona
in whose handa it will work must possess a re-
dundancy of that fluid. He also states that
metals are discovered by tbe same means. K. B.
Sloyt-atorm Superstition (Vol. viil., p. 33.)
Tbe belief that the slow-worm cannot die until
sunset prevails in Dorsetshire. In the New
Forest the same superstition cxiaEa with regard to
the brown adder. Walking in tbe heathy country
between Beaulieu and Christ Church I saw a
very hirge snake of this kind, recently^beaten to
death by the peasant boys, and on remarking
that the lower jaw continued to move convulaively,
I waa told it would do ao "till the moon was up."
An aged woman, now deceased, who bad when
youn" been severely bitten by a snake, told me
she always felt a severe pain and aweUing near
where the wound had been, on the anniversary of
tbe occurrence. la this common? and can it be
accounted for ? W. E.
Plmpcroe, Dorset.
RavaiUiac (Vol. viii^ p. 219.). — ;Tbe destruction
of tbe pyramid erected at Paris upon the mnrder
of Henry IV., is mentioned by ThuanuB, Hiat.,
lib. 134. cap. 9. In your correspondent's Query,
Thesaur. is, I presume, misprintal for Thuan,
B.J.
Lines on the Inatitulion of (he Garter (Vol, viii.,
p. 182.). — A.B.R.aays, "as also from the pro-
verbial expression used in Scotland, and to be
found in Scott's Works, of ' casting a leggin
firth,' as synonymous with a female ' faux pas.' "
may mention to your correspondent (if he is not
already aware) that the expression Is taken from
Allan Ramsay's continuation of Chriatt Kirk on
the Oreeit (edit, Leith, 1814, I vol. p. 101.) :
" Or bairns can rend, they first maun spell,
I learn'd this frae my mammy;
And COOK a kgn gitlk mysell,
Lang or I married Tammie."
and is explained by the author in a note, " Like a
tub that loses one of its bottom hoops." In the
nest of Scotland the phrase ia now restricted to a
young woman who has had an illegitimate child,
or what is more commonly termed " a misfortune,"
and it Is probable never had another meaning.
Legen or leggen is not understood to have any
afSnity in Its etymology to the word leg, but is
laggen, that part of the staves which projects from
the bottom of the barrel, or of the child's Ivggie,
out of which he sups his oatmeal parritck ; and
the girth, gird, or hoop, that by which the vessel
at this particular place Is firmest bound together.
Burna makes a fine and emphatic use of the word
laggen In tbe "Birthday Address," in speaking of
the "Royal lasses dabty" {Cunnii^hame, edit.
1826, vol. ii. p. 3-29.) :
" God bless you a', consider now,
Ye'ieuncomiickledaiitet:
But ere the course o" life be thro"
It may be bitter aantet
An I hae seen their coggLe fou.
That yet hae tarroiVc at it;
But or the day vas done, I ttow.
The lagget they lise elautel."
which means, that at last, whether through pride,
hunger, or long fasting, the appetite had become
ao keen, that all, even to the last particle of the
parritch, was clauiet, acartit, or scraped from the
bottom of the coggie, and to its inmost recesaes
surrounded by tbe laggen girth. Of the motto of
the garter, " Honi soit qui mal y pense," I have
heard a burlesque translation known but to few,
in " Honeys tweet qao' Molly Spence," synonymonB
with Proverbs, chap. ii. verse 17 : " Stolen waters
are sweet, and bread eaten in secret Is pleasant."
G.N.
Passage in Bacon (Vol. viii., p. 303.).— I bad,
partly from inadvertence, and partly from a belief
that a tautology would be created by a reourrenea
to the idea of death, after the words "mortis ter-
rore oarentero," in the preceding line, understood
the verae in question to mean, " which regards
length of life as the last of Nature's gifts." On
reconsider aljon, however, I do not doubt that tbe
received interpretation, which makes spairam ex-
tremwn equivalent lojlnem, ia the correct one. L.
What Day is it at our Antipodes f (Vol. toi^
p. 102.). — A peraon sailing to our Antipodes
westward will lose twelve hours ; by sailii^
thither eastward he will gwn twelve hours. If
NOTES AND QUEEIEa
[No. 211.
both meet t<^ther at tlie Mme hour, tar eleven
o'clock, the one will reckon 11 a.m., the other
11 P.M. EsTJt.
Ca/W Head Club (Vol. viu., p. 31S.). — In
Hone's Every Day Book, vol. !!. pp. 158, 159, 160.,
some more inforiQation is given on tlic interesting
event referred to in the Note made by Mb, E. G.
Ballabd. a print is given of the scene; and the
obnoxious toasts are also quoted ; tbey are ; " The
pious memorj of Oliver Cromwell j" "Damn — n
to the race of the Stuarts ; " " The glorious year
1648 ; " " The man in the mask," &c. The print
is dated 1734, nbich proves that the meeting at
which tbe disturbance arose was not tbe first
which had taken place. S. A. S.
Bridgewater,
Heraldic Query (Vol. viii., p. 219.). — Although
A. was killed in open rebellion, I tliink his ar-
morial bearings were not forfeited unless be was
subsequently attainted by act of parliament; and
even in that case it is possible that tbe act con-
tained a provision that the penoltr should not ex-
tend to the prejudice of an; otner person than
the ofiender. Assuming thiit A. was not attainted,
or that the consequences of hie attainder were thus
teslricted to himself, or that his attainder hos
been reversed, it is clear that bis lawful posterity
are still entitled to bis ai-ms, notwithstanding the
acceptance by bis grandson C. of a new crant,
nLich obviously coSd no more affect the title to
the ancient arms than the creation of a modern
bnrony can destroy the right of its recipient to an
older one. The descendants of C. beinj; thus en-
titled to both coats, could, I imagine, without diffi-
culty obtain a recognition of their right; and I
think they might either use tbe ancient arms
alone, or the ancient and tbe modern arms quar-
terly, precedence being given to the farmer. The
proper course would be to seek tbe licence of the
crown for the resumption of tbe ancient surname,
as well as of tbe arms. Such permission would, I
apprehend, be now conceded, even though it should
appear that the arms were really forfeited.
Henri Gooqh.
Emberton, Bucks.
The Temde lands ia Scotland (Vol, viii.,
p.317.). — These lands, or a portion of them,
were acquired, and afterwards transferred by sale,
to Mr. Gracie, by James Maidment, Esq., the
eminent Scottish antiquary, who, in 1828-29,
privately printed —
"Templari.: Papers Relative to th« History, Pri.
viUges, and Possessions of the Scottish Knights Tem-
plin, and their Successors, (he Knights cf St. John of
1, with Notes," &c.
subject, provided he can obtain it; for the work,
professing to be printed by the author for presents,
IS eon6ned to twenty-five copies, and must there-
fore be nire. In 1831 was published by Ste-
venson, Edinburgh, an Historical Account of Lin'
lithgoicshiTe, by the late John Ft-nney.* This
is edited by Mr. Jlaidment, and contains a chapter
entitled an "Account of tbe Transmission of the
United Estates of the Templars and Hospitallers,
afler the dissolution of the Order in the reign of
Queen Mary ; " and although the object ot the
editor is to notice tbe charters connected with
Linlithgowshire, the book contains a sketch of tbe
general history of the lands in question, abridged
Irom the Templaria. ■* '^
J.O.
This will no doubt contain all that your cor-
respondent ABB£i>ONEitsis could desIre upon the
Sir John Vanbrugk (Vol. viii., p. 6S. &o.V ~Ta
An Accomit of the life and Death of Mr. MallAeio
Henry, published in the year 1716, bis bio^ipber
having related that he was chosen a minister of a
congregation of Dissenters in tbe city of Chester,
and that he went there to reside on the first day
of June, 1687, goes on to state (p. 73.) :
" That city was then very happy in several worthy
gentlemen that liad liabitatians tliere ; they were not
altogether ilrangerg to Mr. Henry before he cams to
live among them, but now they cmue to be bis very
intimate acquaintance; some of these, as Alderman
Mainvaring and Mr. Vanbnigh, father to Sir John
Vanbrugh, were in communion with the Church of
England, but they lieard Mr. Hcixry on the week-day
lectures, and always treated bim with great and serious
This evidence serves to show that a Mr. Van-
brugh, who was livin" in Cheater in 1687, was the
father of Sir John Vanbrugh. I have been toli
that in former times there was a sugar-bakery at
Chester. Did the father of Sir Jubu Vanbrugh
carry on that business at Chester during any
period of his residence there P M. W.&
Sir Arthur Asian (Vol. viii., p. 126.). — In re-
ference to the Query of your correspondent
CuABTHAH, I take leave to i-efcr him to Playfair's
Baronetage, -vol. ii. p. 2S7., where a pedigree of that
ancient family is inserted. In p. 261. is a note, by
which it appears that tbe said Sir Arthur Aston
had a daughter Elizabeth, born in Russia, and
married to James Thompson of Joyce Grove in
Berkshire.
In addition thereto, I recollect seeing the copy
of a deed of sale, dated April, 1637, by which it
appears that Nicholas Hercy, of Kettlcbed, in co.
Oxon., sold to James Thompson of Walltngford,
in CO. Berkshire, " Joys Grove," in Netuebed
aforesaid ; and there is united with the same James
Thompson, apparently as a trustee, " George Tat-
lersall the younger, of Finchampstead, in said co.
of Berkshire."
* Query the late George Chalmers.
Nov. 12. 1853.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 481
1 also take leave to refer your oorrespondent to
Lysons's EneiroTU of London, vol. ii. p. 393., under
■WmOUA by It<Atrl SU«nrt, Book.eller, PalilBy.
head of " Fulhani," wliere it is stated that Sir
Arthur Astoii's father resided in that parish.
An Anti quart.
Tbr Sprct.ioi. printed b, Ale». L.^rie A Co.. Lc^on, IM>4.
Nugget (Vol. viii,, p. 375.).— Colonel Mundy,
in Our Antipodet, saya that the word nugget was,
before the days of gold digging, used by the
farmers of Australia to express a small thick bul-
Wanted by J. T. CAwiAfl-., Fir-ood, Chadd.Hoo, near Oldham.
lock, such as our English farmers would call a
lumpy one, or a little great one. A. H. WmrB.
uti Autograph CoUtaori (o Iht aUvrrliimnU »*** apprar, trn
paptri, tcktch ha«t btm miucd irMia IBc lait liciitc monlhifnm
Itc proper ctalada. and Ihtfll imlg tr loo glad In ktar IHal iy u
MUtfttaneoui.
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Nov. 12. 1853.] NOTES AND QUEEIBa
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 211.
TO AVTOaAAVH AVD XAJHmOBm OOX&BOTOBS
I HE SECOND HEBREW
BOOKi wnWDlnj th. BOOK^^fOE-
THE FIRST HEBREW
HERALDIC ILLUSTRA-
TIONS, »c. BriP.HiKRISON.
I. Boll of Anna granled by
II. Roll of Arms frantea b?
KnlfhtaCamiHiilMuiit lh« Siue ot fulftvc-
IIL Roll of Arm» granted by
IV. Roll of Arms of all the
JSd,lll. """'
V. Facsimile of Magna Cliarta,
VL Genealogy of Sovereigns of
VIL FacsimileB of the Warrant
tndof Kins Chule.!' Price, on mrt^mcnt,
SCIENCE OF ARCHERY,
I,et(erB from Mathev HuUon
lie Thite Itaiivhtert oTLvd WIucIicIh
Letters from Beau Null as i
a the Dnke of Bomenet. describing
.0 l^ies C. aod H. Finch.
DsiMl Ansait ud ttmtintim, ins.
Letter A-om W. Edirards to Malhev Hutton.
Ditid Bnrlr.Deoantar lllb, mi.
Letters cnntuning A Proposal of Marriage Avm the Duke of So-
menEl » Lldr C. Finch. V*Ui I7B.
Letter from the Duke of Somerset to the Earl of Wincheliea on the
Letters between Lord Granville and the Duke of Somerset, as to
Autograph Notes from George HI. to Charles, Earl of Fgremont, ou
Letter of Lord Lyttleton to the Earl of Egremont, inclosiog Com-
pUmentniT Venu b> Lndj EffmnonL HuttAJtaoMnr lalilKI-
A Particular of the Duchess of Somerset's Debts.
Dittd OetolKr Tlh. 1st.
1 the Coontess of Northumbei-
Applr to MESSRS, B
JOSEPH I,IU.T, 10. Klni Blmt, CsTCnt Oniden. ImAgn.
lit Cilnlime wlU t* formirfta to u^|ir«il1e>iiu tnt
BEMOSTHENIS DE FALSA
ex ColleE^. CuDhrldse-
TEE STEREOSCOPE,
REMARKS ou some of Sir
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NOTES AND QUERIES:
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LITERARY MEN, ARTISTS, ANTiaUARIES, GENEALOGISTS, ETC,
^ Wlien found, make a note of." — Captaih Cdttlk.
No. 212.]
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CONTENTS.
KOTBS: —
Page
Party-Similes of tlie Seventeenth Century: — No. 1.
•• Foxes and Firebrands." No. 2. " Tiie Trojan
Horse" 485
Testimonials to Donkeys, by Cuthbert Bade, B.A. - 488
Longevity in Cleveland, Yorkshire, by William Durrant
Cooper - - - - - - - 488
Rev. Josiah Fullen • - - - -489
Folk Lorb : — Ancient Custom
Nottinghamshire Customs
in Warwickshire —
- 490
Minor Notes : — A Centenarian Couple — " VenI,
vldi, vici " — Autumnal Tints — Variety is pleasing —
Rome and the Number Six — Zend Grammar — The
Duke's First Victory — Straw Paper — American
Epitaph ....... 490
Queries : —
Laurie (?) on Currency, &c.
** Donatus Redivivus "
. 491
- 492
Minor Queries : — Henry Scobell — The Court House
— Ash -trees attract Lightning — Symbol of Sow, &c.
— Passage in Blackwood — '. Rathband Family —
Encaustic Tiles from Caen — Artificial Drainage —
Storms at the Deatli of Great Men — Motto on Wyl-
cotes' Brass — " Trail through the leaden sky," Ac —
Lord Andley's Attendants at Foictiers — Roman
Catholic Bible Society - - - - - 493
Minor Queries with Answers: — "Vox Populi Vox
Dei " — " Lanquettes Cronicles " — " Our English
Milo " — " Delights for Ladies "— Burton's Death
— Joannes Audoenus — Hampden's Death - - 494
Replies : —
" Pinece with a Stink," by W. Pinkerton, &c.
Monumental Brasses abroad, by Josiah Cato
Milton's •♦ Lycidas," by C. Mam
by
Mansfield Ingleby
Weld Taylor and G. Brindley
496
497
497
498
499
500
School Libraries,
Acworth -------
Cawdray's " Treasurie of Similies," and Simile of
Magnetic Needle, by Rev. E. C. Harington, &c.
" Mary, weep no more for me," by J. W. Thomas
Photographic Corresfondencb :— Clouds in Pho-
tographs—Albumenized Paper — Stereoscopic An-
gles— Photographic Copies of MSS. - - - 501
Replies to 'Minor Quebil's: — Lord Cecil's "Memo-
rials"— Foreign Medical Education — Encyclopaedias
Pepys's Grammar —"Antiquitas Saecuh Juventus
Mundi "—Napoleon's Spelling— Black as a mourning
Colour — Chanting of Jurors — Aldress — Huggins
and Muggins — Camera Lucida — "When Orpheus
went down" — The Arms of De Sissone — Oaths of
Pregnant Women — Lepel's Regiment — Editions of
the Prayer Book prior to 1662 — Creole— Daughter
pronounced " Dafter " — Richard Oeering — Island - 502
Miscellaneous : —
Books and Odd Volumes wanted •
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisements - . .
. 5C5
. 505
- 505
V0L.VIII. — No.212.
PABTT-8IMILES OP THE SEVENTEENTH CENTURY I
NO. I. " FOXES AND FIBEBBANDS." NO. U. " THE
I
TROJAN HORSE.
With Englishmen, at least, the seventeenth was
a century pre-eminent for quaint conceits and
fantastic similes: the literature of that period,
whether devotional, poetical, or polemical*, was
alike infected with the universal mania for strained
metaphors, and men vied with each other in giving
extraordinary titles to books, and making the con-
* Dr. Eachard, in his work on The Grounds and
Occasions of the Contempt of the Clergy and Religion
inquired into, London, 1712, after ably showing up the
pedantry of some preachers, next attacks the ** indis-
creet and horrid Metaphor Mongers." " Another thing
that brings great disrespect and mischief upon the
clergy ... is their packing their sermons so full of
similitudes*' (p. 41.). Eachard has a museum of curi*
osities in this line. TTie Puritan Pulpit, however, far
outstrips even the incredible nonsense and irreverence
which he adduces. Let any one curious in such matters
dip into a collection of Scotch Sermons of the seven-
teenth century. Sir W. Scott, in some of his works, has
endeavoured to give a faint idea of the extraordinary
way in which passages of Holy Scripture were applied
in the same century. I have a very curious book of
soliloquies, which unfortunately wants the title-page.
From internal evidence, however, it appears to have been
written in'Ireland in the seventeenth century: the writer
signs himself" P. P." The editor of this little 12mo.,
in " An Epistle to the Reader,** after reprehending
"the wits of our times'* for "quibbling and drolling
upon the Bible," says immediately after : — " This
author's innocent abuse of Scripture is so far from coun-
tenancing, that it rather shames and condemns that
licentious and abominable practice. Nor can we admit
of the most useful allusions without that harmless
(nay helpful and advantageous) KaraxfrfifTiSy or abuse
here practised ; wherein the words are indeed used to
another, but yet to a Holy end and purpose, besides that
for which they were at first instituted and intended.**
The most reverend of our readers must need smile,
were I to give a specimen of this "innocent abuse."
While noticing the false wit which passed current in
that century, we must not forget that the same age
produced a South and a Butler : and that in beauty of
simile, few, if any, surpass Bishop Jeremy Taylor.
486
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 212.
tents justify the title. Extravagance and the far-
fetched were the gauge of wit : Donne, Herbert,
and many a man of genius foundered on this rock,
as well as Cowley, who acted up to his own defini-
tion :
" In a true Piece of Wit aU things must be,
Yet all things there agree ;
As in the Ark^ join'd without force or strife,
AU creatures dwelt — all creatures that had life.**
It is not, however, for the purpose of illus-
trating this mania that I am about to dwell on
the two similes which form the subject of my
present Note : I selected them as favourite party-
similes which formed a standing dish for old
Anglican writers ; and also because they throw
light on the history of religious party in England,
and thus form a suitable supplement to my article
on " High Church and Low Church" (Vol. viii.,
p. 117.).
As the object of the Church of England, in
separating from Rome, was the reformation^ not
the destruction of her former fuith, by the very
act of reformation she found herself opposed to
two bodies; namely, that from which she sepa-
rated, and the ultra-reformers or Puritans, who
clamoured for a radical reformation.
Taking these as the Scylla and Chary bdis —
the two extremes to be avoided — the Anglican
Church hoped to attain the safe and golden mean
by steering between these opposites, and find, in
this via media course, the path of truth.
Accordingly, her divines abound with warnings
against the aforesaid Scylla and Charybdis, and
with exhortations to cleave to the middle line of
safety. Acting on the proverb that extremes meet^
they were ever drawing parallels between their
two opponents. On the other hand, the Puritans
stoutly contended that they were the true middle-
men ; and in their turn traced divers similarities
and parallels betwixt " Popery and Prelacy,'* the
" Mass Book and Service Book." *
* An Analysis of the "divers pamphlets published
against the Book of Common Prayer" would make a
very curious volume. Take a passage from the Anatomy
of the Service Book, for instance : *• The cruellest of the
American savages, called the Mohaukes, though they
fattened their captive Christians to the slaughter, yet
they eat them up at once ; but the Service-book savages
eat the servants of God by piece-meal : keeping them
alive (if it may be called a life) ut sentiani se moriy that
they may be the more sensible of their dying" (p. 56.),
Sir Walter Scott quotes a curious tract in Woodstock,
entitled Vindication of the Book of Common Prayer
against the Contumelious Slanders of the Fanatic Party
terming it " Porridge.*' The author of this singular
and rare tract (says Sir W.) indulges in the allegorical
style, till he fairly hunts down the allegory. The
learned divine chases his metaphor at a very cold scent,
through a pamphlet of six mortal quarto pages. — See a
Without farther preface, I shall give the title of
a curious work, which will tell its own story :
" Foxes and Firebrands / or A Specimen of the Danger
and Harmony of Popery and SeparcUion. Wherein is
proved from undeniable Matter of Fact and Reason,
that Separation from the Church of Enprland is, in the
Judgment of Papists, and by Experience, found the
most Compendious way to introduce Popery, and to
ruine the Protestant Religion :
* Tantum Reiigio potuit suadere Malorum,^ "
A work under this title was published, if I
mistake not, in London in 1678 by Dr. Henry
Nalson ; in 1682, Robert Ware reprinted it with
a second part of his own; and in 1689 he added
a third and last part in 12mo., uniform with the
previous volume.* In the Epist. Ded. to Part II.
the writer says of the Church of England :
" The Papists on the one hand, and the Puritans on
the other, did endeavour to sully and bespatter the
glory of her Reformation : the one taxing it with in-
novation, and the other with superstition."
The Preface to the Third Part declares that
the object of the whole work is " to reclaim the
most hagfifard Papists" and Puritans.
Wheatly,in treating of the State Service for the
29th of May, remarks :
" The Papists and Sectaries, like Sampson's Foxes,
though they look contrary ways, do yet both join in
carrying Fire to destroy us : their End is the same,
though the method be different." — Rational Iliust. of
the Book of Common Prayer, 3rd edit., London, 1720,
folio.
The following passage occurs in A Letter to the
Author of the Vindication of the Clergy, by Dr.
Eachard, London, 1705 :
" I have put in hard, I'll assure you, in all com«
panics, for two or three more : as for example. The
Papist and the Puritan being tyed together like Sampson*s
Foxes. I liked it well enough, and have beseeched
them to let it pass for a phansie ; but I could never
get the rogues in a good humour to do it : for they say
that Sampson^s foxes have been so very long and so very
often tied together, that it is high time to part them.
It may be because something very like it is to be found
in a printed sermon, which was preached thirty-eight
years ago : it is no flam nor whisker. It is the forty-
third page upon the right hand. Yours go thus. viz.
Papist and Puritan^ like Sampson* s Foxes, though looking
and running two several ways, yet are ever joyned to~
gether in the tail. My author has it thus, viz. The
Separatists and the Romanists consequently to their other-
wise most distant principles do fid/y agree, like Sampson^s
Foxes, tyed together by the tails, to set tUi on fre^ although
their faces look quite contrary ways/' — P. 34.
It would be easy to multiply passages in which
this simile occurs ; but what I have given is suffi-
Parallel of the Liturgy with the Mass Book, Breviary,
^c, by Robert Bay lie, 1661, 4to.
[♦ See " N. & Q.,** Vol. viii., p. 172.— Ed.]
Nov. 19. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
48r
cient for mj purpose, and I must leave room for
" The Trojan Horse." * . . . . -
I must content myself with gWing the title of
the following work, as I have never met with the
book itself: T?ie Trajan Horsey or The Presby-
terian Oovernment Unbowelled, London, 1646.
In a brochure of Primate BramhalFs, entitled
** A Faire Warning for England to take heed of the
Preshyterian Government .... Also the Siiifulnesse
and Wickednesse of the Covenanty to introduce that
Government upon the Church of England."
the second paragraph of the first page proceeds :
" But to see those very men who plead so vehemently
against all kinds of tyranny, attempt to obtrude their
own dreames not only upon their fellow-subjects, but
upon their sovereigne himself, contrary to the dictates
of his own conscience, contrary to all law of God and
man ; yea to compell forreigne churches to dance after
their pipe, to worship that counterfeit image which
they feign to have fallen- down from Jupiter, and by
force of arms to turne their neighbours out of a posses-
sion of above 1400 years, to make roome for their
Trojan Horse of ecclesiastical discipline (a practice
never justified in the world but either by the Turk or
by the Pope) : this put us upon the defensive part.
They must not think that other men are so cowed or
grown so tame, as to stand still blowing of their noses,
•whilst they bridle them and ride them at their pleasure.
It is time to let the world see that this discipline which
they so much adore, is the very quintessence of refined
I^opery.^
My copy of this tract has no place or date : but
it appears to have been printed at the Hague in
1649. It was answered in the same year by
" Robert Baylie, minister at Glasgow," whose
reply was " printed at Delph."
As the tide of the time and circumstance rolled
on, this simile gained additional force and depth ;
and to understand the admirable aptitude of its
application in the passage I shall next quote, a
few preliminary remarks are necessary.
There was always in the Church of England a
portion of her members who could not forget that
the Puritans, though external to her communion,
were yet fellow Protestants ; that they differed not
in kind, but in degree — and that these differences
"were insignificant compared with those of Rome.
At the same time, they reflected that perhaps the
Church of England was not exactly in the middle,
and that she would not lose were she to move
a little nearer the Puritan side. Accordingly,
various attempts were made to enlarge the terms
of her communion, and eject from her service-
* See Grey's Hudibras, Dublin, 1744, vol. ii. p. 248.,
vol. i. pp.150, 151., where allusions both to "The Trojan
Mare "and tying "the fox tails together" occur. Butler
was versed in the controversies of his day, and, more-
over, loved to satirise the metaphor mania by his ex-
quisitely comic similes.
book any lingering " relics of Popery " which might
offend the weaker brethren yciept the Puritans :
thus to make a grand Comprehension Creed — a
Church to include all Protestants.
This was tried in James I.'s reign at the Savoj
Conference; but in spite of Baxter^s strenuous -
efforts and model prayer-book, it was a failure.
Even Archbishop Sancroft was led to attempt a
similar Comprehensive Scheme, so terrified was he
at the dominance of the Roman Church in the
Second James's reign : however, William's acces-
sion, and his becoming a nonjuror, crossed hi»
design. In 1689, Tillotson, Burnet, and a number
of William's " Latitudinarian" clergy made a bold
push for it. A Comprehension Bill actually passed
the House of Lords, but was thrown out by the
Commons and Convocation. From William's time
toleration and encouragement were extended to
all save "Popish Recusants;" so that there were
a large number in the Church of England ready
to assist their comrades outside in breaking dowtt
her fences. The High Churchmen, however, as
may be guessed, would not sit tamely by, and see
the leading idea of the Anglican Church thrown ta
the winds, her via media profaned, her park made
a common, and her distinctive doctrines and fencea
levelled to the ground. What their feelings were,
may be gathered from this indignant invective :
*' The most of the inconveniences we labour under
to this day, owe their original to the weakness of some^
and to the cowardice of others of the clergy. For had
they stood stiff* and inflexible at flrst against the en-
croachments and intrigues of a Puritanical faction^
like a threefold cord, we could not have been so easily^
shattered and broken. The dissenters, as well skilled,
in the art of war, have besieged the Church in form :
and at all periods and seasons have raised their bat-
teries, and carried on their saps and counter-scarps
against her. They have left no means unessayed or
practised, to weaken her. And when open violence
has been baflled, and useless, stratagem and contrivance
have supplied what force could never effect. Hence it-
is, that under the cant of conscience and scruple, they
have feigned a compliance of embracing her com-
munion ; if such and such ceremonies and rules that
then stood in force could be omitted, or connived at :
and having once broke ground on her discipline, they
have continued to carry on their trenches, and haC^^
almost brought the Great Comprehension- Horse within
our walls ; whilst the complying, or the moderate clergy
(as they are called), like the infatuated Trojans, helped
forward the unwieldy machine ; nor were they aware of
the danger and destruction that might have issued oat-
of him." — The Entertainer, London, 1718, p. 153.*
♦ Let any one interested in the history of Compre-
hension refer to the proceedings relative to the form-
ation of the " Evangelical Alliance." Jeremy Collier
gives a curious parallel : — " Lord Burleigh, upon some
complaint aj^ainst the Liturgy, bade the Dissenters
draw up another, and contrive the offices in such a
form as might give general satisfaction to their brethren*.
488
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 212.
I shall but add a postscript to mj former Note.
In "N. &Q." (Vol. viii., p. 156.), a number of
pamphleta on High Church and Lon Church are
referred to. A muterly sketch of the two theories
is given at pp. 87, S8. of Mr. Kingsley's Yeaat,
London, 1851. Jabltzdebo.
The following extract from nn article on " An-
(ding iu North Wales," which appeared in The
yield newspaper of October 22nd, contains a spe-
cimen of an cntirel/ original kind of testimonial,
which seems to me worthy of preservation in
"N. & Q.'s" museum of curiosities :
" Beguiled by the treacherous represenlmlions of a
oarUin Mr. Williams, and the high character of his
donkeips, I undertook the ascent of Dunes Bran, and
poked about among the ruins of Crow Cutis on its
aummit, where I found nothing of an; consequence,
eioept an appetite for my dinner. The printed paper
which Mr. Williams hands about, deploiing the loss
of Ills 'chsrflcler,' and leslirying to the wonderful
Upon this overture tlie first clasits struck out their
lines, and drew nio>^t1y by the portrait of Geneva.
This draught was referred to the consideration of a
second clatsis, who made no less than «> hundrfd ei-
ceptions to it. The third cisssis quarrelled with (he
corrections or the second, and declared far a new model.
The founh refined no less upon the third. The trea-
surer advised all these reviews, and difTtrent com-
mittees, on purpose to break their measures and silence
their clamours against the Church. However, since
they eould not come to any agreement in a form for
divine service, he had a handsome opportunity for a
release : for now they could not decently importune
him any farther. To part smoothly with them, he
assured their agents that, when they came to any
unanimous resolve upon the mallet before Ihcm, they
might eipect his friendships and that he should be
ready to bring their scheme to a selllement." Col-
lier's Hitl.. vol. viii. p. 16. See CarJwell's Hisl. of the
Cmfereice conntcltd icUh Iht Seciilot n/ Ihi Sooli of
Cimmon Praytr, London. IS49, Bvo. See also Quar-
ttrly Rivintr. vol. 1. pp. 508—56!., No. C. Jan. 1834.
The present American Prayer Book is formed on the
Comprehen'ion scheme. Last year Pickering published
■ Book of Common Prai/er of Iht Church of England,
adapltd for GtHcral Ose in other Frotettant Chwcha,
which is well worth referring lo.
Those who wish^ to ■' comprehend " at the Roman
wde of the o.'a media were very few. Elisabeth and
Laud are the most prominent instances. Clmrles L,
and afterwards the Noruurors, had schemes of com-
munion with the Greek Church. A HiHorg <if Com-
preheniio* would involve a historical notice of the
Thirty-nine Arlicles, and (he plan of Comprehension
maintained by some lo be the intention of their
iramers. It should include also distinctive sketches
of the classes formerly denominated Chunh Papitti and
ChHreh PuTllani.
superioiily of all hli animals, is ratlier amusing. Mr,
Williams evidently never had a donkey 'what wouldn't
go.' This paper commences with an affidavit ham
certain of Ibe householders and tilerali of LlaDgolleD,
that he 'had received numerous testimonials, all of
which we are sorry lo say hai been lost.' Those pre-
served, however, and immotlalised in print, suffice to
establuh Mr. Williams' reputation:
"Mr. W. and his son and daughter bear testi-
mony to the civility and attention of Mr. Willianu
and his donkeys.
" S, P., Esquire, attended at the Hand Hotel, 24th
June, 1851, and engaged four of Mr. WillUms* don-
keys for the use of a party of ladies, who expressed
themselves highly grntitied. The animals were re-
markably tractable, and void of stupidity.
" Mrs. D. A, B, visited Valle Crueis Abbey on the
beck of Mr. Williams' ass, and is well aatisfied.
" Sept 4. 1858.
This is to certify that
Is lo Donkey
Ever more her i
■ery par
On ' Jenny Jones'
She'll ride while she's alive ! "
Those who have viaiced Malvern will remenber
the vast quantity of donkeys who rejoice in the
cognomen of " The Roynl Moses." Their history
is as follows ; — When the late Queen Dowajtec
was at Malvern, she frequently ascended the hilla
on donkey-back ; and on all such occasions pa-
troiiised a poor old woman, whose stud had been
reduced, by a succession of misfortunes, to a
solitary donkej, who answered to the name of
" Moses." At the close of her visit, her majesty,
with thnt kindness of heart which wns such a
distinpuishing trait in hen character, not only
liberally rewarded the poor old woman, but asked
her if there was anything that she could do for
her which would be likely to bring back her
former prosperity. The old woman turned the
matter over in her mind, and then said, "Please
your majesty to give a name to my donkej." This
her M.ijesty did. " Mosea " became " the Royal
Moses ; " every body wanted to ride him ; the
old woman's custom increased ; and when the
favoured animal died (for he is dead) he lefli
behind hira n numerous family, all of whom are
culled aller their father, "the Royal Moses."
CuTSDBBr Sede, B.A.
A cursory conversation with a lady in her
eighty-Gflh year, now living at Skellon in Cleve-
land, in the North Riding of Yorkshire, when she
Nov. 19. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
489
deprecated the notion that she was one of the old
inhabitants, led me to inquire more particularly
into the duration of life m that township. The
minister, the Rev. W. Close, who has been the in-
cumbent since the year 1813, and who has had the
duties to perform, and the registers to keep, there-
fore, from about the period of the act which re-
quired the age to be stated, now forty years ago,
Mras most willing to give me aid and extracts from
the burial register, from the commencement of
1813 to August, 1852, during which period 799
persons were buried. The extracts show these
extraordinary facts.
Out of the 799 persons buried in that period, no
less than 263, or nearly one- third, attained the
age of 70. Of these two, viz. Mary Postgate, who
died in 1816, and Ann Stonehouse, who died in
1823, attained respectively the ages of 1 01 . Nine-
teen others were 90 years of age and upwards,
viz. one was 97, one was 96, one was 95, four
were 94, one was 93, five were 92, three were 91,
and three were 90. Between the ages of 80 and
90 there died 109, of whom thirty-nine were 85
and upwards, and seventy were under 85 ; and be-
tween the ages of 70 and 80 there died 133, of
whom sixty-five were 75 years and upwards, and
sixty-eight were between 70 and 75. In one page
of the register containing eight names, six were
above 80, and in another five were above 70.
In this parish of Skelton there is now living a
man named Moon, 104 years old, who is blind
now, but managed a small farm till nearly or quite
100 ; and a blacksmith named Robinson Cook,
aged 98, who worked at his trade till May last.
In the chapelry of Brotton, which adjoins
Skelton township, and has been also under the
spiritual charge of Mr. Close, the longevity is even
more remarkable. Out of 346 persons buried
since the new register came into force in 1813,
down to 1st October, 1853, no less than 121, or
more than one-third, attained the age of 70. One
Betty Thompson, who died in 1834, was 101 ;
nineteen were more than 90, of whom one was
98, two were 97, three were 95, one was 93, four
were 92, five were 91, and three were 90; there
were forty- four who died between 80 and 90 years
old, of whom nineteen were 85 and upwards, and
twenty-five were between 80 and 85 ; and there
were fifty- seven who died between the ages of 70
and 80, of whom no less than thirty-one were 75
and upwards. The average of the chapelry is in-
creased from the circumstance that sixteen bodies
of persons drowned in the sea in wrecks, and
whose ages were not of course very great, are in-
cluded in the whole number of 346 burials. That
celibacy did not lessen the chance of life, was
proved by a bachelor named Simpson, who died at
92, and his maiden sister at 91.
I am told that the neighbouring parish of Up-
leatham has also a high character for longevity,
but I had not the same opportunity of examining
the register as was afforded me by Mr. Close.
And now for a Query. What other, if any
district in the north or south, will show like or
greater longevity? William Dubbant Coopjeib,
BEV. JOSIAU PULLEN.
Every Oxford man regards with some degree
of interest that goal of so many of his walks,
Joe PuUen's tree, on Headington Hill. So at
least it was in my time, now some thirty years
since. Perhaps the following notices of hira, who
I suppose planted it, or at ail events gave name
to it, may be acceptable to your Oxford readers.
They are taken from that most curious collection
(alas! too little known) the Pocket-books of Tom
Hearne, vol. liii. pp. 25-35., now in the Bodleian :
"Jan. 1, 1714-15. Last night died Mr. Josiah Pul-
len, A.M., minister of St. Peter's in the East, and
Vice- Principal of Magdalen Hall. He had also a par-
sonage in the country. He was formerly domestick chap-
lain to Bishop Sanderson, to whom he administered the
sacrament at his death. He lived to a very great age,
being about fourscore and three, and was always very
healthy and vigorous. He was regular in his way of
living, but too close, considering that he was a single
man, and was wealthy. He seldom used spectacles,
which made him guilty of great blunders at divine
service, for he would officiate to the last. He admini*
stered the Sacrament last Christmas Day to a great
congregation at St. Peter's, which brought his illness
upon him. He took his B. A. degree May 26, 1654.
He became minister of St. Peter's in the East anno
1668, which was the year before Dr. Charlett was en-
tered at Oxford."— P. 25.
" Jan. 7, Friday. This day, at four in the afternoon,
Mr. PuUen was buried in St. Peter's Church, in the
chapel at the north side of the chancell. All the
parishioners were invited, and the pall was held up by
six Heads of Houses, though it should have been by
six Masters of Arts, as Dr. Radcliffe's pall should have
been held up by Doctors in Physic, and not by Doctors
of Divinity and Doctors of Law."— P. 32.
Dr. Radcliffe's funeral had taken place in the
preceding month.
In Nichols's Literary Anecdotes, vol. iv. p. 181.,
is the following epitaph of PuUen, drawn up by
Mr. Thomas Wagstaffe :
"Hie jacet reverendus vir Josia Pullen, A.M.,
Aulas Magd. 57 annos vice principalis, necnon hujusce
ecclesisB Pastor 39 annos. Obiit 31 « Decembris, anno
Domini 1714, aetatis 84."
From the notice of Thomas Yalden, in John-
son's Lives of the Poets, it appears that Yalden
was a pupil of Pullen. (See also Walton's Life
of Sanderson, towards the end.) I hope this may
elicit some farther account of a man whose name
has survived so long in Oxford memory.
490
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 212.
As to tlie tree, I have some recollection of
liaving heard that it had a few years aoro a narrow
escape of being thrown down, sometime about the
vice-chancellorship of Dr. Sjmons, who promptly
came forward to the rescue. Was it ever in such
peril ? and, if so, was it preserved ?
Balliolensis.
FOLK LORE.
Ancient Custom in Warwickshire. — In Sir Wil-
liam Dugdale*s Diary ^ under the year 1658, is
noted the following :
** On All Hallow Even, the master of the family
antiently used to carry a bunch of straw, fired, about
his oorne, saying,
* Fire and red low,
Light on my teen low.*"
^an any of your readers learned in ancient lore
explain the custom and the meaning of the
couplet, as well as its origin ? Does it now at all
prevail in that county ? J. B. Whitborne.
Nottinghamshire Customs. — 1. The 29th of
May is observed by the Notts juveniles not only
by wearing the usual piece of oak-twig, but each
young loyalist is armed with a nettle, as coarse as
can be procured, with which instrument of torture
are coerced those unfortunates who are unpro-
vided with "royal oak," as it is called. Some
who are unable to procure it endeavour to avoid
the penalty by wearing " dog-oak " (maple), but
the punishment is always more severe on discovery
of the imposition.
2. On Shrove Tuesday, the first pancake cooked
Is given to Chanticleer lor his sole gratification.
3. The following matrimonial custom prevails
at Wellow or Welley, as it is called, a village in
the heart of the county. The account is copied
from the Notts Ouardian of April 28, 1853 :
<* Wellow. It has been a custom fi'om time imme-
moriid in this parish, when the banns of marriage are
published, for a person, selected by the clerk, to rise
and say * God speed them well,' the clerk and con-
fregation responding, Amen ! Owing to the recent
eath of the person who ofiiciated in this ceremony,
last Sunday, after the banns of marriage were read, a
perfect silence prevailed, the person chosen, either from
want of courage or loss of memory, not performing his
part until after receiving an intimation from the clerk,
and then in so faint a tone as to be scarcely audible.
His whispered good wishes were, however, followed by
a hearty Amen, mingled with some laughter in different
parts of the church."
I do not know whether any notices of the above
have appeared in " N. & Q.,*' and send to inquire
respecting 1. and 3. whether a similar custom holds
elsewhere; and whether 2. has any connexion
with the disused practice of cock-shying ?
FURVUS.
A Centenarian Couple. — The obituary of Blacks
wood's Magazine for August, 1821, contains the
following :
" Lately, in Campbell, County Virginia, Mr. Chas.
Layne, sen., aged 121 years, being Irarn at Albemarle^
near Buckingham county, 1700. He has left a widow
aged 1 10 years, and a numerous and respectable family
down to the fourth generation. He was a subject of
four British sovereigns, and a citizen of the United'
States for nearly forty-eight years. Until within a few
years he ei\joyed all his faculties, and excellent health.**
The above extract is followed by notices of the
deaths of Anne Bryan, of Ashford, co. Waterford,
apfed 111; and Wm. Munro, gardener at Rose
Hall, aged 104. Cuthbert Beds, B.A.
" Veni, vidiy viciJ* — To these remarkable and
well-known words of the Roman general, I beg to
forward two more sententious despatches of cele-
brated generals :
Suwarrow. " Slava hogu ! Slava vam !
Krepost Vzala, yiatam.**
" Glory to God and the Empress I IsmaiPs ours.**
It is also stated, I do not know on what authority,
that the old and lamented warrior, Sir Charles
Napier, wrote on the conquest of Scinde, " Pec-
cavi.
Perhaps some of your correspondents could add
a few more pithy sentences on a like subject.
G. Lloyd.
Dublin.
Autumnal Tints. — Scarce any one can have
failed to notice the unusual richness and brilliance
of the autumnal tints on the foliage this year. I
have more particularly remarked this in Clydes-
dale, the lake districts of Cumberland and West-
moreland, and in Somersetshire and Devonshire.
Can any of the contributors to " N". & Q.*' inform
me if attributable to the extraordinary wetness of
the season ? R. H. B.
Vaf^ety is pleading. — Looking over my last
year's note-book, I find the following morceau^
which I think ought to be preserved in " N. & Q. :"
" Nov. 30, 1851. Observed in the window of the
Shakspeare Inn a written paper running thus :
* To be raffled for :
The finding of Moses, and six
Fat geeze (II).
Tickets at the bar.' **
R. C. Wardb.
Kidderminster.
Rome and the Number Six, — It has been re-
marked lately in " N. & Q.** that in English his-
tory, the reign of the second sovereign of the same
name has been infelicitous. I cannot turn to the
Not. 19. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
491
note I read, and I forget whether it noticed the
remarks in Aubrey*8 Miscellanies (London, 8vo.,
1696), that " all the second kings since the Con-
quest have been unfortunate." It may be worth
the while to add (what is remarked by Mr. Mat-
thews in his Diary of an Invalid) ^ that the num-
ber six has been considered at Rome as ominous
of misfortune. Tarquinius Sextus was the very
worst of the Tarquins, and his brutal conduct led
to a revolution in the government ; under Urban
the Sixth, the great schism of the West broke out ;
Alexander the Sixth outdid all that his prede-
cessors amonjjst the Tarquins or the Popes had
ventured to do before him ; and the presentiment
seemed to receive confirmation in the misfortunes
of the reign of his successor Pius VI., to whose
election was applied the line :
" Semper sub sextis perdita Roma fuit."
W. S. G.
Neweastle-on-Tyne.
Zend Grammar. — The following fragment on
Zend grammar having fallen in my way, I inclose
you a copy, as the remarks contained in it may be
of service to Oriental scholars.
I am unable to state the author's name, although
I suspect the MS. to be from a highly important
quarter. The subject-matter, however, is suffi-
ciently important to merit publication.
" 'ITie Zendy of disputed authenticity, and the As'
mani Zuban, a notoriously fictitious tongue, compared."
" It is well known that Sanscrit words abound in
Zend; and that some of its inflexions are formed by the
rules of the Vyacaran or Sanscrit grammar.
" It would therefore seem quite possible that by ap-
plication of these rules a grammar mi^ht be written
of the Zend. Would such a composition afford any
proof of the disputed point — the authenticity of the
Zend?
*' I think it would not, and support my opinion by
reasons founded on the following facts.
" The Asmani Zuban of the Desstd is most inti-
mately allied to Persian. It is, in fact, fabricated out
of that language, as is shown by clear internal evidence.
Now the grammatical structure of this fictitious tongue
is identical with that of Persian : and hence by follow-
ing the rules of Persian grammar, a grammar of the
Asmani Zuban might be easily framed. But would
this work advance the cause of forgery, and tend to in-
vest it with the quality of truth ? No more, I answer,
and for the same reason, than is a grammar of the
Zendf founded on the Vyacaran, to be received in proof
of the authenticity of that language.**
Kenneth R. H. Mackenzie.
The Duke's first Victory. — Perhaps it may in-
terest the future author of the life of the Duke of
Wellington to be informed of his first victory. It
was not in India, as commonly supposed, but on
Donnybrook Road, near Dublin, that his first
laurels were won. This appears from the Free^
man's Journal^ September 18th, 1789, where we
learn that in consequence of a wager between him
and Mr. Whaley of 150 guineas, the Hon. Arthur
Wesley walked from the five-mile stone on Don-
nybrook Road to the corner of the circular road
in Leeson Street, in fifty-five minutes, and that a
number of gentlemen rode with the walker, whose
horses he kept in a tolerable smart trot. When it
is recollected that those were Irish miles, even de-
ducting the distance from Leeson Street to the
Castle, whence the original measurements were
made, this walk must be computed at nearly six
English miles. Omicbon.
Straw Paper. — Various papers manufactured
of straw are now in the market The pen moves
so easily over any and all of them, that literary
men should give them a trial. As there seems
considerable likelihood of this manufacture being
extensively introduced, on account of the dearness
of rags, &c., it is to be hoped that it will not be
improved into the resemblance of ordinary paper.
Time was when ordinary paper could be written
on in comfort, but that which adulterated Fal-
stafiTs sack spoiled it for the purpose, and con-
verted it into limed twigs to catch the wingcid
pen. M.
American Epitaph (Vol. viii., p. 273.). — The
following lines are to be seen on a tombstone in
Virginia :
** My name, my country, what are they to thee ?
What whether high, or lovr, my pedigree?
Perhaps I far surpassed all other men :
Perhaps I fell behind them all — what then ?
Suffice it, stranger, that thou see'st a tomb,
Thou know'st its use ; it bides — no matter whom.*'
w.w.
Malta.
^utvitii.
LAURIE (?) ON CURRENCY, ETC.
I have before me a bulky volume, apparently
unpublished, treating of currency and of many
other politico- economical afiairs ; the authorship
of which I am desirous of tracing. If any reader
of " N. & Q." can assist my search I shall feel
greatly obliged to him.
This volume extends to 936 closely printed
Eages, and is altogether without divisions either of
ook, chapter, or section. It has neither title-
page, conclusion, imprint, or date ; and my copy-
seems to consist of revises or "clean sheets" as
they came from the press. The main gist of the
work is thus described, apparently by the author
himself, in a MS. note which occupies the place of
the title-page ;
" It is here meant to show that in civilised nations
money is an emanating circulable wealth and power,
492
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 212.
without which individuals cannot go on in improve-
ment on independent principles. It resolves wealth
into the forms roost conducive to this object, and pre-
pares for the highest services both individuals and
communities.*'
The book, however, is extremely discursive, and
no small portion of it is devoted to foreign politics.
Thus, of the "Eastern Question," the author dis-
poses in this fashion :
** Austria, to answer its destination, ought to com-
prise Wallacbia, Bessarabia, Moldavia, and, following
the line of demarcation drawn by the Danube, the whole
territory at its debouchment . . . Turkey cannot re-
gard the sacrifices proposed as of much importance,
when such security as that now in contemplation could
be obtained. Tiie whole strength of her immense
empire is at present drained to support her contest on
this very barrier with Russia. But that barrier, it is
evident, would this way be effectually secured: for
Austria has too many points of importance to protect,
to dream of creating new ones on this feeble yet ex-
tended confine of her domains." — Pp. 835, 836.
From internal evidence, the book appears to
have been written between 1812 and 1815. It is
printed in half-sheets, from sig. A to sig. 6 B, and
three half-sheets are wanting, viz. E, 5 Q, and
6 R. In place of the lost two, the following MS.
note is inserted :
" The speculations in the two following sheets in-
cluded views that related to the disorganised state of
Turkey, and the unhappy dependence of the Bourbon
family ; which are now, from the changes which have
taken place, altogether unfit for publication."
The sole indication of the authorship which I
have observed throughout the volume lies in the
following foot-note, at p. 893. :
" This is all that seems to be necessary to say on the
subject of education. In a treatise published by me a
few years ago, entitled Improvements in Glasgow, I
think I have exhausted,** &c.'*^
The only treatise with such a title which I find
in Wattes Bibliotheca Britannica is thus entered :
•* Laurie, David. Proposed improvements in Glas-
gow. Glasg., 1810, 8vo. — Hints regarding the East
India Monopoly, 1813. 25."
My Queries then are these :
1. Is anything known of such a treatise on
"circulable wealth,** &c., as that which I have
named ?
2. Is any biographical notice extant of the
" David Laurie " mentioned by Watt ?
I may add that the volume in question was
recently purchased along with about 1000 other
pamphlets and books, chiefly on political economy :
*'' I find no mention of Mr. Laurie, or of his
'< Improvements in Glasgow," in Cleland*8 Annals of
Glaspowy published in 1816; nor is he mentioned in
Mr. M*Culloch's Literature of Political Economy,
all of which appear to have formerly belonged to
the late Lord bexley, and to have been for the
most part collected by him when Chancellor of the
Exchequer. £.
Old Trafibrd, near Manchester*
"donatds bedivivus."
Can you, or any of your correspondents, give
me any information relative to the history or
authorship of the following pamphlet ? —
** Donatus Redivivus : or a Reprimand to a modern
Church- Schismatick, for his Revival of the Donatistical
Heresy of Rebaptization, in Defiance to the Judgment
and Practice of the Catholick Church, and of tlie
Church of England in particular. In a Letter to
Himself. London, 1714."
The same tract (precisely identical, except in the
title-page) is also to be found with the following
title :
** Rebaptization condemned. Wherein is shown,.
1. That to Rebaptize any Person that was once Bap-
tized, even by Laymen, in the name of the Sacred
Trinity, is contrary to the Practice of the Catholick
Church in all Aj^es. 2. That it is repugnant to the
Principles and Practice of the Church of England.
3. The Pernicious Consequences of such a Practice.
By the Author of Plain Dealing, or Separation without
Schism," &c. London, 1716.
I am aware that, according to Dr. Watt, the
author of Plain Dealing was Charles Owen, D.D.,
but he makes no mention of Donatus JRedi'
vivuSy and I am unable to discover any account
of Dr. Charles Owen or his writings elsewhere.
There appears to have been a reply to Donatus
Bedivivus, purporting to be from the pen of a
Mrs. Jane Chorlton. This I have never seen,
and have only learned of its existence from a sub-
sequent pamphlet with the following title :
"The Amazon Disarmed: or, the Sophisms of a
Schismatical Pamphlet, pretendedly writ by a Gentle-
woman, entituled An Answer to Donatus Redivivus^
exposed and confuted ; being a further Vindication of
the Church of England from the scandalous imputation
of Donatism or Rebaptization. London, 1714."
The dedication of this last tract begins as follows :
" To the Reverend Mr. L— ter, and the Demi-re-
verend Mr. M — 1 — n.
" Gentlemen,
" This letter belongs to you upon a double account,
as you were the chief Actors in the late Rebaptization,
and are the supposed Vindicators of it, in the Answer
to Donatus ; a Treatise writ in Defence of the Senti-
ments of the Church, which you father upon a Dis-
senting Minister, and disingenuously point out to
Mr. O n by Name," &c.
The point which I wish particularly to ascertain
is, whether Dr. Charles Owen was really the
Not. 19. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
493
author of either of the tracts I have mentioned ;
and if so, who he was, and where I can find an
account of him and his writings. *AXt€t5y.
Dublin.
Henry Scohell. — Henry Scobell, compiler of a
well-known Collection of Acts, was for several
years clerk to the Long Parliament. I should be
glad to learn what became of him after the dis-
solution of that assembly. A Leguleian.
The Court House, — This place is situated in
Painswick, in Gloucestershire, and has been de-
scribed to me as an old out-of-the-way place.
Where can I meet with a full description of it ? Is
the tradition that a king — supposed to be either the
first or second Charles — ever slept there true ?
P.M.
Ash'trees attract Lightning, — Is it true that
ash-trees are more attractive to lightning than
any others ? and the reason, because the surface
of the ground around is drier than round other
trees ? C. S. W.
Symbol of Sow, 8fc. — A sow suckled by a litter
of young pigs is a common representation carved
on the bosses of the roofs of churches. What is
this symbolical of? P. G. C.
Ottery St. Mary.
Passage in Blackwood, —
" I sate, and wept in secret the tears that men have
ever given to the memory of those that died before the
dawriy and by the treachery of earth our mother." —
Blackwood's Magazine, December, 1849, p. 72., 3rd line,
second column.
Will some of your readers give information re-
specting the above words in Italic ? D. N. O.
JRathhand Family, — Can any of your readers
assist me in distinguishing between the several
members of this clerical family, which flourished
during the period of the Commonwealth, and im-
mediately preceding? Prom Palmer's Noncon^
formist Mem, (vol. i. p. 520.), there was a Mr.
William Rathband, M.A., ejected from Southwold,
a member of Oxford University, who was brother
to Mr. Rathband, sometime preacher in the Min-
ster of York, and son of an old Nonconformist
minister, Mr. W. Rathband, who wrote against
the Brownists. — I should feel obliged by any in-
formation which would identify tnem with the
livings they severally held. Olives.
Encaustic Tiles from Caen, — In the town of
Caen, in Normandy, is an ancient Gothic building
standing in the grounds of the ancient convent of
the Benedictines, now used as a college. This
building, which is commonly known as the " Salle
des Gardes de Guillaume le Conquerant,** was
many years ago paved with glazed emblazoned
earthenware tiles, which were of the dimensions of
about five inches square, and one and a quarter
thick ; the subjects of them were said to be the
arms of some of the chiefs who accompanied
William the Conqueror to England. Some anti-
quaries said these tiles were of the age of Wil-
liam I. ; others that they could only date from
Edward III. I find it stated in the GentUmmiB
Magazine for March, 1789, vol. lix. p. 211., that
twenty of the tiles above spoken of were taken up
by the Benedictine monks, and sent as a present
to Charles Chadwick, Esq., Healey Hall, Lanca-
shire, in 1786. The rest of the tiles were de-
stroyed by the revolutionists, with the exception
of some which were fortunately saved by the
Abbe de la Rue and M. P. A. Lair, of Caen.
What I wish to inquire is, firstly, who was Charles
Chadwick, Es(]^. ? and secondly, supposing that he
is no longer living, which I think from the lapse
of time will be most probable, does any one know
what became of the tiles which he had received
from Prance in 1786 ? George Boase.
P. S. — The GentlemarCs Magazine gives a plate
of these tiles, as well as a plate of some others with
which another ancient building, called " Grand
Palais de Guillaume le Conquerant,** was paved.
Alverton Yean, Penzance.
Artificial Drainage, — Can any of your cor-
respondents refer me to a work, or works, giving
a history of draining marshes by machines for
raising the water to a higher level ? Windmills, I
suppose, were the first engines so used, but neither
BecKmann nor Dugdale informs us when first used.
I have found one mentioned in a conveyance dated
1642, but they were much earlier. Any inform-
ation on the history of the drainage of the marshes
near Great Yarmouth, of which Dugdale gives a
passing notice only, would also be very acceptable
to me. E. G. R.
Storms at the Death of great Men, — Your cor-
respondent at Vol. vi., p. 531., mentions "the
storms which have been noticed to take place at
the time of the death of many great men known to
our history."
A list of these would be curious. With a
passing reference to the familiar instance of the
Crucifixion, as connected with all history, we may
note, as more strictly belonging to the class, those
storms that occurred at the deaths of " The Great
Marquis" of Montrose, 21st May, 1650; Crom-
well, 3rd September, 1658 ; Elizabeth Gaunt, who
was burnt 23rd October, 1685, and holds her re-
putation as the last female who suffered death for
a political ofience in England; and Napoleon,
5th May, 1821 ; as well as that which solemnised
494
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 212.
the burial of Sir Walter Soott, 26th September,
1882. W. T. M.
Hong Kong.
Motto on Wylcotes* Brass, — In the brass of Sir
John Wylcotes, Great Tew Church, Oxfordshire,
the following motto occurs :
"in . on . is . AL.**
I shall feel obliged if any one of your numerous
correspondents will enlighten my ignorance by
explaining it to me. W. B. D.
Lynn.
" Trail through the leaden sky,' ^c. —
** Trail through the leaden sky their bannerets of fire.'*
Where is this line to be found, as applied to the
spirits of the storm P B. C. Wabde.
Kidderminster.
Lord Audley^s Attendants at Poictiers, — Accord-
ing to the French historian Froissart, four knights
or esquires, whose names he does not supply,
attended the brave Lord Audley at the memorable
battle of Poictiers, who, some English historians
say, were Sir John Delves of Doddington, Sir
Thomas Button of Dutton, Sir Robert Fowlehurst
of Crewe (all these places beinnf in Cheshire), and
Sir John Hawkstone of Wriuehill in Staffordshire ;
whilst others name Sir James de Mackworth of
Mackworth in Derbyshire, and Sir Richard de
Tunstall alias Sneyde of Tunstall in Staffordshire,
as two of such hnights or esquires. The accuracy
of Froissart as an historian has never been ques-
tioned ; and as he expressly names only /our
attendants on Lord Audley at the battle of Poic-
tiers, it is extremely desirable it should be ascer-
tained if possible which of the six above-named
knights really were the companions of Lord Aud-
ley Froissart alludes to ; and probably some of your
learned correspondents may be able to clear up
the doubts on the point raised by our historians.
T. J.
Worcester.
Roman Catholic Bible Society. — About the
year 1812, or 1813, a Roman Catholic Bible So-
ciety was established in London, in which Mr.
Charles Butler, and many other leading gentle-
men, took a warm part. How long did it con-
tinue? Why was it dissolved? Did it publish
any «nnual reports, or issue any book or tract,
besides an edition of the New Testament in 1815 ?
Where can the fullest account of it be found ?
Will any gentleman be kind enough to sell, or
even to lend, me Blair's Correspondence on the
Roman Catholic Bible Society, a pamphlet pub-
lished in 1813, which I have not been able to meet
with at a bookseller's shop, and am very desirous
to see. Henry Cottow.
Thurles, Ireland.
" Vox Populi Vox Dei.** — Lieber, in the last
chapter of his Civil Liberty, treating of this
dictum, ascribes its origin to the Middle Ages,
acknowledging, however, that he is unable to give
anythino^ very definite. Sir William Hamilton, in
his edition of the Works of Thomas Reid, gives
the concluding words of Hesiod's Works and Days
thus :
** The word proclaimed by the concordant voice of
mankind fails not ; for in man speaks God.**
And to this the great philosopher adds :
** Hence the adage (?), * Vox Populi vox Dei.* *
The sign of interrogation is Sir William Hamil-
ton's, and he was right to put it ; for whatever the
psychological connexion between Hesiod's dictum
and V. P. V. D. may be, there is surely no his-
torical. "Vox Populi vox Dei" is a different
concept, breathing the spirit of a different age.
How fai* back, then, can the dictum in these
very words be traced ?
Does it, as Lieber says, originally belong to the
election of bishops by the people ?
Or was it of Crusade origin ?
America begs Europe to give her facts, not
speculation, and hopes that Europe will be good
enough to comply with her request. Europe has
given the serious " V. P. V. D." to America, so
she may as well give its history to America too.
Amebicus.
[As this Query of Americus contains some new il-
lustration of the history of this phrase, we have given
it insertion, although the subject has already been dis-
cussed in our columns. The writer will, however, find
that the earliest known instances of the use of the
saying are, by William of Malmesbury, who, speaking
of Odo yielding his consent to be Archbishop of Can-
terbury, A. D. 920, says : " Recogitans iilud Proverbium,
Vox Pupttli Fox Dei; " and by Walter Reynolds, Arch-
bishop of Canterbury, who, as we learn from Walsing-
bam, took it as his text for the sermon which he
preached when Edward III. was called to the throne,
from which the people had pulled down Edward XL
Americus is farther referred to Mr. G. Cornewall
Lewis' Essay on the Influence of Authority in Matters of
Opinion (pp. 172, 173., and the accompanying notes)
for some interesting remarks upon it. See farther,
«N. & Q.," Vol. i., pp. 370. 419. 492.; Vol. iii.,
pp. 288. 381.]
^'Lanquettes Cronicles.** — Of what date is the
earliest printed copy of these Chronicles? The
oldest I am acquamted with is 1560, in quarto
(continued up to 1540 by Bishop Cooper). Is
this edition rare ? R. C. Warde.
Kidderminster.
[The earliest edition is that printed by T. Berthe-
let» 4to., 1549. The first two parts of this Chronicle,
Not. 19. 1833.] NOTES AND QCBKIES.
496
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 212.
n pUtol, onins to
luUoiisI; overcharged ? T. J.
canced hj the burstinjt of li
ita hiving been ;' ■— ->-
[See the GenikmBn'i Magatiat Tor May, 1 1) 1 5, p. 395.,
for " A true and railhruU NiiralLre of the Death of
Ua*ter Hambdcn, who wai mortally Trounded at Chall-
gmn Fighl, *.d. 1643, and on Ihc 1 8th of June," From
tag againsl Prince Rupert at Chilgrovo Field, he was
■truck with tiro carbine-balta in tba shoutder, which
broke the bone, and terminated fatally.]
in his Theatrum Inteetomm (Lond. 1634), thus
relates the story :
" Anno 1503. dum hcc Pennio scriptilaret, Mortla-
cum Tameain adjacentem viculum, magna festinatione
aceersebatur ad duas nobilet, r
vestiglii percussas, et quid r
veritai. Tandem reeognita.
icio eontagionis lalde
(Vol. viii., pp. 270. 330.)
I watild not have meddled nith tliis subject tf
R. G., getting on a wrong scent, had not arrived
at the very extraordinary conclusion that Bi-am-
hall meant a " pinnace," and an " offensive com-
'poaition well known to sailora ! "
The earliest noUce that I have met with of the
pineee in an English work, ia in the second part
of the Secreti ofMaialer Alexis nf Piemont, trans-
lated by W. Warde, Lend. 1568. There I find
the following secrets — worth knowing, too, if
effective :
" Againil ttinking Btrmin calUd Pvitliiti. — If you
rub your bedsteede with squilla stamped willi vinaigre,
or with the leaTes of cedar tree todden in oil, you shall
never feel punese. Alto if you set under the bed a
pay Is full of water the puuesci will not trouble you at
all."
Butler, in the first eanto of the third part of
Hudibras, also mentions it thus :
" And stole his lalismanic louse —
His flea, his morpion, and punaise."
If the Querist refers to hia French dictionary
he will soon discover tlie incBiiing [of morpion
and punaise — the latter without doubt the
pistce of Bishop Bramhall. Cotgrave, in bis
FMtich-Enslisk Dictionjiry, London, 1650, definea
ptOHUie to be "the nnjsonie and stinking vermin
called the bed punie."
It may be bad taste to dwell any longer on this
sabject ; but as it illustrates a curious fact in
natural history, and aa it has been well said, that
whatever the Almighty biia thought proper to
create ia not beneath the study of mankind, I
shall crave a word or two more.
The pineee is not originally a native of this
country; and that is the reason why, so many
years after ita first appearance in England, it was
known only by a corruption of its French name
maiaiae, or lis German appellation wandiatu (wall-
louse). Penny, a celebrated physician and natu-
ralist in the reign of Henry VII., discovered it
at Morllake in rather a curious manner. Uouffet,
Mouffct also tells us that in bia time tl
was little known in England, thoush very
on the Continent, a circumstance which be aac
to the superior deanliness of the English :
" Muadltiem frequenlemque leclulorum ct i
trarem lotionem, cum Gjlli, Germani, et Itali i
cunuit, pariunt magis hanc pestem, Angli autem
Ray, in his H'utoria TnaectorTim, published ia
1710, merely terms it Ae putiics or wall-louse ;
indeed, I am not aware that the modern name of
the insect appears in print previous to 1730, when
one Sou thai published A Treatise of Buggt,
Southal appears to have been an illiterate person ;
and be erroneously ascribes the introduction of
the insect into this country to the large quantities
of foreign fir used to rebuild London afler the
Great Fire.
The word it^, aignifying a frightful object or
spectre, derived from the Celtic and the root of
bogie, bug'aboo, bug-bear — is well known in our
earlier literature. Spenser, Shokspeare, Milton,
Beaumont and Fletcher, Holinshed and many
others, use it ; and in Matthew's BibU, the fifiL
Terse of the ninety-first psalm is rendered :
" Thou Shalt not ncde to be afraid of any bugs by
night."
Thus we see that a real " terror of the night "
in course of time, assumed, by common consent,
the title of the imaginary evil spirit of our au-
One word more. I can see no difficulty in
tracing tlia derivation of the word hambug, with-
out going to Hamburg, Hume of tie Bog, or any
such distant sources. In Grose's Dictionary of the
Vulgar Tongue, I find the word hma signilying
to deceive. Peter Pindar, too, writes :
N'ow, the rustic who frightens his neighbour
with a turnip Isnthorn and a white sheet, or the
spirit-rapping medium, who, for a consideration,
treats his verdant client with a communication
from the unseen world, most decidedly humbugs
him ; that is, hums or deceives bim with an ima-
ginary spirit, or bug. ' W. FlKKBHTOtT.
I take it that the editor of Archbishop Brnm-
hall's Wtn-ki vras judicious in not altering the
wl Nov. 19. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
497
fei word pinece to pinnace, as an object very different
from the latter was meant ; t. e. a cimex, who
^ certainly revenges any attack upon his person
^ with a stink, Pinece is only a mistaken ortho-
^ graphy of punese, the old English name of the
^ obnoxious insect our neighbours still call a punaise
(see Cotgrave in voce). Florio says " Cimici, a
kinde of vermine in Italic that breedeth in beds
and biteth sore, called punies or wall- lice." We
have it in fitting company in Hvdihras, lu. 1. :
<* And stole his tallsmanic louse,
His flea, his morpion, and punese.'*
This is only one more instance of the danger of
altering the orthography, or changing an obsolete
word, the meaning of which is not immediately
obvious. The substitution of pinnace would have
been entirely to depart from the meaning of the
Archbishop. S. W. S.
MONUMENTAL BRASSES ABROAD.
(Vol. vi., p. 167.)
A recent visit to the cathedral of Aix-la-Cha-
pelle enables me to add the following Notes to the
list already published in " N". & Q."
The brasses are five in number, and are all con-
tained in a chapel on the north-west side of the
dome:
1. Arnoldus de Meroide, 1487, is a mural, rect-
angular plate (3' • 10''x2' . 4'0i on the upper
half of which are engraved the Virgin and Child,
to whom an angel presents a kneeling priest, and
St. Bartholomew with knife and book.
2. Johannes Follart, 1534, is also mural and
rectangular (5' • 2J''x2' • 4'^, but is broken into
two unequal portions, now placed side by side.
The upper half of the larger piece has the follow-
ing engraving : — In the centre stands the Virgin,
wearing an arched imperial crown. Angels swing
censers above her head. St. John Baptist, on her
right hand, presents a kneeling priest in surplice
and alb ; and St. Christopher bears " the myste-
rious Child" on her left. The lower half contains
part of the long inscription which is completed on
the smaller detached piece.
3. Johannes et Lambertus Munten, 1546. This
is likewise mural and rectangular (2' • IIJ'^X
2' • 1'^). It is painted a deep blue colour, and
has an inscription in gilt letters, at the foot of
which is depicted an emaciated figure, wrapped in
a shroud and lying upon an altar-tomb : large
worms creep round the head and feet.
4. Johannes Paid, 1560. Mural, rectangular
(3' . 4'^X2' . 4^0- This is painted as the last-
mentioned plate, and represents the Virgin and
Child in a flaming aureole. Her feet rest in a
crescent, around which is twisted a serpent; on
her ri^ht hand stand St. John Baptist and the
Holy Lamb, each bearing a cross ; and to her left
is St. Mary Magdalene, who presents a kneeling
priest.
5. Henricus de . . . . This in on the floor in
front of the altar-rails, and consists of a rectan-
gular plate (2' . 9'^X2' • I'Q, on which is repre-
sented an angel wearing a surplice and a stole
semee of crosses fitchee, and supporting a shield
bearing three fleurs-de-lis, with as many crosses
fitchee. A partially-effaced inscription runs round
the plate, within a floriated margin, and with evan-
gelistic symbols at the corners.
In the centre of the choir of Cologne Cathedral
lies a modem rectangular brass plate (8^ • KX^ X
3' • ll'O to the memory of a late archbishop, Fer-
dinandus Augustus, 1835.
Beneath a single canopy is a full-length picture
of the archbishop in eucharistic vestments (the
stole unusually short), a pall over his shoulders,
and an elaborate pastoral staff in his hand.
JOSIAH CaTO.
Kennington.
MILTON S
" LTCIDAS."
(Vol. ii., p. 246. ; Vol. vi., p. 143.)
Your correspondent Jabltzberg, at the first
reference, asks for the sense of the passage, —
" Besides what the grim wolf with privy paw
Daily devours apace, and nothing sed :
But that two-handed engine at the door
Stands ready to smite once, and smite no more."
My own' view of this passage strongly testifies
against the interpretation of another passage at
the second reference.
The two-handed engine, I am positive, is St. Mi-
chaeFs sword. Farther on in the poem the bard
addresses the angel St. Michael (according to
Warton), who is conceived as guarding the Mount
from enemies with a drawn sword, for in this form
I apprehend does tradition state the vision to have
been seen ; and he bids him to desist from looking
out for enemies towards the coast of Spain, and to
" look homeward," at one of his own shepherds
who is being washed ashore, in all probability
upon this very promontory. Milton elsewhere
(Par.Lostf book vi. 251.) speaks of the "huge
two-handed sway" of this sword of St. Michael;
and here, in Lycidas, he repeats the epithet to
identify the instrument which is to accomplish the
destruction of the wolf. St. Michael's sword is to
smite off the head of Satan, who at the door of
Christ's fold is, " with privy paw," daily devouring
the hungry sheep. Note here that, according to
some theologians, the archangel Michael, in pro-
phecy, means Christ himself. (See the authorities
quoted by Heber, Bampton Lectures, iv. note l^
p. 242.) Hence it is His business to preserve His
own sheep. In the Apocalypse the final blow of
St. Michael's (or Christ's) two-edged sword, which
498
NOTES AND QUERIE&
[No. 212.
is to cleave the serpent's head, is made a distinct
subject of prophecy. (See Rev. xii. 7 — 10.)
While on this subject allow me to ask, Can a
dolphin wall ? Can a shore wash ? i
C. Maj<sfibd Inglebt. '
Birmingham.
SCHOOL UBBABIES.
(Vol. viii., pp. 220. 395.)
In returning thanks to those of your correspon-
dents who re{3ied to my Query, I ought, perhaps,
to have begged to learn such of our public schools
that were without libraries, as the best means of
obtaining for them bequests or gifts that would
form a nucleus of a good library. For example,
a correspondent informs me that the governors of
Queen Elizabeth^s Grammar School, Wimbome,
Dorset, are laying by 10/. a year towards the pur-
chase of books for that purpose : that having no
library at present, there now is a favourable oppor-
tunity for either a gift or a bequest : but I should
in any case prefer a selection of works likely to
prove readable for young people, as history, bio-
graphy, travels, and the popular works of science.
I can quite imagine that Eton, Winchester,
Westminster, Harrow, Shrewsbury, and other
similar great schools, would have such libraries,
but these are not half the number of our public
foundations ; the wealthy schools above mentioned,
and the rich men's children who go to them, would
be in a sad plight indeed were they not amply
provided for in such matters. But there are
others whose mission is not less important-, perhaps
more so ; and on this head none would be better
pleased than I to find I laboured under an ^^ er-
roneous impression," as remarked by Etonensis.
The English public appeared to have an " erro-
neous impression " that they were better provided
with books than any other people a short time ago,
till it was disproved when the agitation respecting
parochial libraries was set on foot, the facts ap-
pearing on the institution of the Marylebone
public library.
It has been shown that in France and Ger-
many the public libraries, and the volumes in
them, far exceed any that we possess ; a strange
fact, when we are better provided with standard
authors than any other language in the world. I
should much wish these brief parallels answered.
The city of Lyons has a magnificent public library
of 100,000 vols., open to all; how many has her
rival Manchester ? Boulogne has a public library
of 16,000 vols. ; how many has Southampton ?
From the obliging notices of correspondents in
" N. & Q.," we have had several articles on pa-
rochial libraries, and the sum of the whole appears
to be most miserable ; surely some bad system has
prevailed either in not having proper places for
them, or in some other fault. In one place the
resident clergvman sells them: surely if they
were combined under some enlarged plan, people
desirous of making beouests or gUls would do so
very willingly when they knew they would be
cared for and made use of; for it is probably the
case that private libraries are more numerous here
than abroad, and that there are altogether more
books in the country. I am told by a correspon-
dent that in his time there were no books at Christ's
Hospital, therefore the bequest made is, I presume,
a late one ; and if such is the case, it will be a favour-
able opportunity for the governors of that school
to enlarge the collection and make it available to
the scholars.
If, therefore, our schools are no better provided
than our public libraries, the inquiry may be of
service; but if they are, it cannot do harm to
know their condition. It is true I have heard of
but one public school hitherto that has no library
and wants one, but I shall remain unsatisfied till
other returns make their appearance in " N. & Q,"
or privately, when, if it should appear I have
taken a wrong opinion, I shall be as pleased as
anybody else to find myself mistaken.
Weld Tatlox.
Bayswater.
In answer to your correspondent Mb, Wbj:j>
Tatlob*s Query on this subject, may I be allowed
to say that at Tonbridge School, where I was
educated, there is a very good general library,
^consisting of the best classical works in our own
language, travels, chronicles, histories, and the
best works of fiction and poetry, and I believe all
modern periodicals.
This library is under the care of the head boy
for the time being, and he, with the other monitors,
acts as librarian. Books are given out, I believe,
daily ; the library is maintained by the boys
themselves, and few leave the school without
making some contribution to its funds, or placing
some work on its shelves.
The head master, the Rev. Dr. Welldon, ap-
proves of all books before they are added to uie
library.
There is also what is called the ** Sunday Li-
brary," consisting of standard works of theology
and church history, and other works, chiefly pre-
sented by the head and other masters, to induce
a taste for such reading.
I am sqrry that Mb. Weld Tatlob should have
to complain" of the general ignorance of public
schoolboys ; but I know I may on behalf of the
head boy of Tonbridge say, he will be happy to
acknowledge any contribution from Mb. Weld
Tatlob, which he may be disposed to give, to-
wards the removal of this charge.
G. Bbimdlet Acwobth.
Stor Hill, Rochester.
Nov. 19. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
499
CAWDBAY*S *^ TBEA8UBIE OF 8IMIIJE8,** AND 8IMILB
OF MAGNETIC NEBDI^.
(Vol. viii., p. 386.)
There can be no doubt as to the authorship of
the Store-house of Similies, The work is now
before me, and the title-page is as follows :
** A Treasurie or Store-bouse of Similies ; both
Pleasaunt, Delightful!, and Profitable for all Estates
of Men in General] : newly collected into Heades and
Common Places. By Robert Cawdray. London :
printed by Thomas Crcede, 1609.**
The only reference to his Life, which I can find,
is in "The Epistle Dedicatorie ;" and two ances-
tors of mine, " Sir John Harington, Knight, and
the Worshipful James Harington, Esquire, his
brother," in which, when assigning his reasons for
the "Dedication," he says :
** Calling to mind (right worshipfuls) not only the
manifold curtesies and benefits, which I found and re-
ceived, now more than thirty years ago, when I taught
the grammar achoole at Okeham in Rutland^ and sundry
times since, of the religious and virtuous lady, Lucie
Harington," &c.
The "Dedication" is subscribed "Robert Caw-
dray." Cawdray was also the author of a work
On the Profit and Necessity of Catechising^ London,
1592, 8vo. E. C. Harington.
The Close, Exeter.
The " Epistle Dedicatorie," as well as the title-
page, appears to be wanting in J. H. S.'s copy of
Robert Cawdray's Store-house, which was "printed
by Thomas Creede, London, 1609." From this
we find that it was dedicated to "his singular
benefactors, Sir John Harington, Knight, as also
to the WorshipfuU James Harington, Esquire, his
brother," whose "great kindness and favourable
good will (during my long trouble, and since)"
the author afterwards " calls to mind," and also
the "manifold curtesies and benefites which I
found and received, now more than thirtie years
agoe (when I taught the Grammar School at Oke-
ham in Rutland, and sundrie times since) of the
religious and vertuous lady, Lucie Harington your
Worship's Mother, and my especial friend in the
Lord." )Vould this be the "lady, a prudent
woman," who " had the princess Elizabeth com-
mitted to her government" (vide Fuller's TFbr^ie*,
Rutlandshire) ?
J. H. S.'s Query recalls two examples of the
"magnetic needle simile" (Vol. vi. and vii. /?flW5im),
which Cawdray has garnered in his Store-house,
and which fact would probably account for their
appearance in many sermons of the period, as the
book being expressly intended to " lay open, rip
up, and display in their kindes," "verie manie
most horrible and foule vices and dangerous sinnes
of all sorts;" and the "verie fitte similitudes"
being for the most part "borrowed from manie
kindes and sundrie naturall things, both in the
Olde and New Testament,'* and being as the
writer says " for preachers profitable," would find
a place on many a clerical shelf; and its contents
be freely used to " learnedly beautifie their matter,
and brauely garnish and decke out" their dis-
courses. I fear that I have already encroached
too much on your valuable space, but send copies
for use at discretion. In the first, the " Sayler's
Gnomon" is used as an emblem of the constancy
which ought to animate every " Christian man ;**
and in the second, of steadfastness amidst the
temptations of the world. I shall be glad to know
more of Cawdray than the trifles I have gathered
from his book :
*< Euen as the Sayler*s Gnomon, or rule, which is
commonly called the mariner's needle, doth alwayes
looke towards the north poole, and will euer turne to-
wards the same, howsoeuer it bee placed : which is
maruellous in that instrument and needle, whereby the
mariners doo knowe the course of the windes : Euen
so euerie Christian man ought to direct the eyes of
his minde, and the wayes of his heart, to Christ ; who
is our north poole, and that fixed and constant north
starre, whereby we ought all to bee governed : for hee
is our hope and our trust ; hee is our strength, where-
upon wee must still relic."
'* Like as the Gnomon dooth euer beholdc the north
starre, whether it be closed and shutte uppe in a cofifer
of golde, siluer, or woode, neuer loosing his nature :
So a faithfull Christian man, whether hee abound in
wealth, or bee pinched with pouertie, whether hee bee
of high or lowe degree in this worlde, ought con-
tinually to haue his faith and hope surely built and
grounded uppon Christ : and to haue his heart and
minde fast fixed and settled in him, and to follow him
through thicke and thinnc, through fire and water,
through warres and peace, through hunger and colde,
through friendes and foes, through a thousand perilles
and daungers, through the surges and waues of enuie,
malice, hatred, euill speeches, ray ling sentences, con-
tempt of the worlde, fiesh, and diuell : and, euen in
death itselfe, bee it neuer so bitter, cruell, and tyran-
nicall ; yet neuer to loose the sight and viewe of Christ,
neuer to giue ouer our faith, hope, and trust in him."
SlOMA.
Stockton.
Robert Cawdray, the author of A Treasurie or
Store-house of Similies, was a Nonconformist
divine of learning and piety. Having entered into
the sacred function about 1566, he was presented
by Secretary Cecil to the rectory of South Lufien-
ham in Rutlandshire. After he had been em-
ployed in the ministry about twenty years, he was
cited before Bishop Aylmer and other high com-
missioners, and charged with having omitted parts
of the Book of Common Prayer in public worship,
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 212.
cont^ned in the book. Having refused, (
ing to Strjpe, to take the onth to answer all suci
itrticiles 119 the commissioaera should propose, hi
was deprived of his ministerial office. Mr. Brook
however, in his Lieei of Ihe PuriViiiM,''state9 tba
thouj;h he might at first have refused the oath
jet that he afterwards complied, and gave answeri
to the various articles which he proceeds to detai
at length. He was cited aj^ain on two subsequeni
occasions; and, on his third appearance, beinj
required to subscribe, and to wear the surplice, be
refused, and was imprisoned, and ultimately de.
prived, He applied to Lord Burleigh to inter,
cede on his behalf, and bb lordship warmlj espoused
his cause, and engaged Attorney Morrice to un-
dertake his defence, but his arguments proved
inefiectual. Mr. Cawdraj, refusing to submit, was
brought before Archbishop Whitgift, and other
high commissioners, Maj 14, 1590, and wag de-
graded and deposed from the ministry and made
a mere layman. The above account is abridged
from Brook's Lives of the Puritans, London, 1813,
pp. 430^3. 'AAHiii.
Dublin.
P. S. Besides the Treiuiirie of Similieg, I find
the following work under his name in the Bodleian
Catalogue :
" A Table Alphabeticall ; conteyning and teaching
the True Writing and Vndeiitanding of bard vsuall
English Wnrdes, borrowed from the Hebrew, Greeke,
Laline, or French, &c. London. Uvo. 1601."
The title of this work is —
" A Treasurie or SCore-lioiise of Similies ; both
Pleasant, Delightfull, and Profitable for all Estates of
Men in Generall : neivly collecteil into Hcadet and
Common Places. Ity Robert Caw dray. Thomas
Creed, London, 1609, 410."
Cawdray was rector of South Lnffenham, in
Rutland ; and was deprived by Bishop Ajlmer
for nonconformity in 1587. He appealed to the
Court of Exchequer, and his case was argued be-
fore all the judges in 1591. A report of the trial
ia in Coke's Report), inscribed "De Jure Regis
Eoclesiastieo." There is a Life of Cawdray in
Brook's Live) of the Puritans (vol.i. pp. 430 — 443.),
which contains an interesting account of his
examination before the High Commission, ex-
tracted from a MS. register. Notices of him will
also be found in Neal's Pui-itans, 1837 (vol. i.
pp.330. 341 .) ; and Hoyliu's History of the Presby
ttriaiis, 1672 (fol. p. 317.). Johh I. Dbkdgb.
(Vol. viii., p. 385.)
For the following information respecting the
author, and the original, I am indebted to the
Lady's Magazine of 1820, from which I copied it
several years ogo.
Mr. Joseph Lowe, born at Kenmore in Gal-
loway, 1750, Ihe son of a gardener, at fourteen
apprenticed to a weaver, by persevering diligence
in the pursuit of knowledge, was enabled in I77I
to enter himself a student in Divinity in the Uni-
versity of Edinburgh. On his return from college
he became tutor in the family of a gentlemaD,
Mr. M'Ghie of Airds, who had severaT beautiful
daughters, to one of whom be was attached, though
it never was their fate to be united. Another of
the sisters, Mary, was engaged to a surgeon, Mr.
Alexander Miller. This young gentleman was
unfortunately lost at sea, an event immortalised
b^ Mary's Dream. The author was unhappy in
his marriage with a lady of Virginia, whither he
had emigrated, and died in 1798. This poem was
originally composed in the Scottish dialect, and
afterwards received the polished English form
from the hand of its author.
" The lovely moon had climb'd the hill.
Where eagles big aboon the Dee,
And, like the looks of a loiely dame.
Brought joy to every bodj's ee :
A' but eneet Mary deep in sleep,
Her thoughts on Sandy fur at sea;
A voice drnpt saflly on her ear —
' Sweet Mary, weep nae mair for me I'
•• She lifted up her waukening een,
To see from whence the sound might be.
And there she saw young Sandy stand.
Pale, bending on her liis hallow ee.
' O Man ■ ■
1 1n deatl
I tbia
■ ' The '
weepni
i aneath the SCI
e sad in bliis,
d slept when we left the bay,
J3ut soon it waked and raised the mai
And God he bore us down the deep —
Wha strave wi' him, but slrave in vai:
He strelch'd his arm and took me up,
TliD' laith I was to gang but thee:
1 loot frae heavtn aboon the storm.
Sac K
"Takeaffthae
weep ni
i-sheets Irae thy bed.
Which thou hast fauldcd down for m^
Dnrobe thee of thy earthly stole —
I'll meet in heaven aboon »i' thee.'
1^ Nov. 19. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
501
PHOTOGRAPHIC CORSESPONDENCE.
Clottds in Photographs (Vol. viii., p. 451.). —
Your correspondent on this subject may easily
produce clouds on paper negatives by drawing in
the lights on the back with common writing ink.
There is usually some tint printed with all ne-
gatives, therefore the black used will stop it out.
It is at the same time unfair and untrue to the
art, because clouds cannot be represented in the
regular mode of practice. If they appear, as they
do sometimes by accident, it is well to leave them ;
but in no art is any trick so easily detected as in
photography, and it cannot add to any operator's
credit in expertness to practise them. W. T.
Alhumenized Paper. — In a late Number of
"N. & Q." you published an account of albu-
menizing paper for positives by Mr. Shadbolt.
Having considerable experience in the manipu-
lation of photograpbical art, I have bestowed great
pains in testing the process he recommends ; and,
I regret to say, the results are by no means satis-
factory. I well know the delicacy which is re-
quired in applying the albumen evenly to the
surface of the paper, and am therefore not sur-
prised to find that each of his "longitudinal
strokes" remains clearly indicated, thereby en-
tirely destroying the effect of the picture.
He also advises that the paper should not be
afterwards ironed^ as it is apt to produce flaws and
spots on the albumenized surface ; and he believes
that the chemical action of the nitrate of silver
alone is sufficient to coagulate the albumen, with-
misled, and so interesting and elegant an art as
photography brought into disrepute by experi-
ments which, however well intentioned, plainly
indicate a want of experience. K. N. M.
[Mr. Shadbolt's scientific acquirements appeared to
us to demand that we should give insertion to his plan
of albumenizing paper : although we felt some doubts
whether it did not contain the disadvantages which our
correspondent now points out. We had met with such
complete success in following out the process recom-
mended by Dr. Diamoi^d in our 205th Number, that
we did not think it advisable to make any alteration.
For our own experience has shown us the wisdom, in
photography as in other matters, of holding fast that
which is good. — Ed.]
Stereoscopic Angles, — Notwithstanding the space
you have devoted to this subject, I find little
practical information to the photographer : will
you therefore allow me to presume to offer you
my mode, which, regardless of all scientific ruleSy
I find to be perfectly successful in obtaining the
desired results ?
My focussing-glass is ruled with a few perpen-
dicular and horizontal lines with a pencil, and I
also cross it from corner to corner, which marks
the centre of the glass. These lines always allow
me to place my camera level, because the perpen-
dicular lines being parallel with any upright line
secures it.
Having taken a picture, I note well the spot of
some object near the centre of the picture : thus,
if a window or branch of a tree be upon the spot
where the lines cross X , I remove the camera in
a straight line about one foot for every ten yards
out the application of heat. This I have found m . _ ii.i
practice to be incorrect: for when I have excited distance from the subject, and brmg the same
albumenized paper, to which a sufficient heat has P^je^t to the same spot : I believe it is not very
not been applied, I have invariably observed that important if the camera is moved more or less,
a portion of the albumen becomes detached into This may be known and practised by many of
the silver solution, making it viscid, and favouring 7?"^ friends ; ^t I am sure others make a great
its decomposition. Consequently, the sheets last difficulty in effecting those satisfactory results
excited seldom retain their colour so long as those '"^'^ich, as I have shown,
long
which are first prepared. But even laying aside
the question of the coagulation of the albumen,
atisfactory
may be so easily obtained.
H. W. D.
(rpr'esum; Co^thfZ^c^)T^\s^^^^^^^ '^¥ copying of MSS:, or printed leaves,-is begin-
in a late Number, I find De. Diamond uses a °^°g *^ ^^^'^^ '"T^^"''^; r.^Yl! 1'^^^^^
^^ . 1 ....,/. i. A ness of thus applyinor it (as I have been iniormecl
40-gram solution with perfect success ; and my . professional photographer) is so great, that I
own experience enables me to verify this formula ^ \ ^^ ^P ^= ^ {^^ ^ 8^, j.^^^ j^
as being sufficiently powerful : -no additional m- . y. ^j,^^; ^„ ^^ {„
tensity of colour being obtamed by these strong j ., ® . s «^^««„:.,J „r,^ „«/»o^fo;«
solutions, it is a mere wliste of material. Therefor! ^'^ ^^^ P'«^«?' '["''LnTTn' ;. f, Jn^rdpr S
T .1 . 1 ' ^ ^ r n • cc L' -i.!. process of copying by hand. And it is in order to
I think your correspondent fails m enectinsr either \ , . , . ^^-'i ° ^•'_ j__' ^ui *»*->
your correspondent
economy of material or time.
However painful it may be to me to offer re-
marks at variance with the opinions of your kind
and intelligent correspondents, yet I consider it
a duty that yourself and readers should not be
help to bring about so desirable a state of things,
that I send these few lines to your widely-circu-
lated journal. M. D.
502
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 212.
^tplM to Minav ^ntviti.
Lord Cecils " Memorials " (Vol. viii., p. 442.).
— Ceeirs " First Memorial " is printed m Lord
Somers's Tracts. It appears that Primate Ussher,
and, subsequently, Sir James Ware and his son
Robert, had the benefit of extracts from Lord
Burleigh's papers. Mr. Bbucb may find the
"Examination" of the celebrated FaithfuU Co-
mine, and " Lord CecyVs Letters," together with
other interesting document^, entered among the
Clarendon MSS. in Pars altera of the second vo-
lume of Caial, Lib, Manuscr. AngL et Hib., Oxon.
1697. R. G.
Foreign Medical Education (Vol. viii., pp. 341.
398.). — In addition to the previous communica-
tions on this subject, I beg to refer your corre-
2K>ndent Medicus to Mr. Wilde's Austria ; its
iterary^ Scientific^ and Medical Institidions^ with
Notes on the State of Science^ and a Guide to the
Hospitals and Sanitary Institutions of Vienna^
Dublin : Curry and Co., 1842. j. D. M»K.
Encyclopcedias (Vol. viii., p. 385.). — Surely
there must be many persons who sympathise with
ENCTCLOPiEDicus in wishing to have a work not
encumbered and swollen by the heavy and bulky
articles to which he refers : perhaps there may be
as many as would make it worth the while of some
publisher to furnish one. Of course copyright,
and all sorts of rights, must be respected ; but
that being done, there would be little else to do
than to cut out and wheel away the heavy articles
from a copy of any encyclopaedia, and put the rest
into the hands of a printer. The residuum (which
is what we want) would probably be to a con-
siderable extent the same. When necessary ad-
ditions had been made, the work would still be of
moderate size and price. N. B.
Pepys's Orammar (Vol. viii., p. 466.). — I am
unable to answer Mb. Keightlet*s Query, not
having the slightest knowledge of short-hand ; but
I always understood that the original spelling of
every word in the Diary was carefully preserved
by the gentleman who decyphered it.
No estimate, however, of Pepys's powers of
writing can be formed from the hasty entries re-
corded in his short-hand journal, and, as I conceive,
they derive additional interest from the quaint
terms in which they are expressed.
Bbatbrooke.
*^Antiquitas Scsculi Juventus MundV^ (Vols. ii.
and iii. passim), — The following instances of this
thought occur in two writers of the seventeenth
century ;
" Those times which we term vulgarly the Old
World, were indeed the youth or adolescence of it . . .
if you go to the age of the world in general, and to the
true length and longevity of things, we are properly the
older cosmopolites. In this respect the cadet may be
termed more ancient than his elder brother, because
the world was older when he entered into it. Nov. 2,
1647." — Howell's LeUert, Uth edit. : London, 1754,
p. 426.
Butler, in his character of "An Antiquary,*'
observes :
** He values things wrongfully upon their antiquity,
forgetting that the most modern are really the most
ancient of all things in the world ; like those that
reckon their pounds before their shillings and pence,
of which they are made up.** — Thyer's edit., vol. ii.
p. 97.
Jarltzbbro.
Napoleon's SpeUing (Vol. viii., p. 386.). — The
fact inquired after by Hknrt H. Bbeen is proved
by the following extract from the Memoires of
Bourrienne, Napoleon's private secretary for
many years ;
** Je pr^viens une fois pour toutes que dans les copies
que je donnerai des ecrits de Bonaparte, je r^tablirai
I'orthographe, qui est en g6n6ral si extraonUnairtmtiatt
esiropiee qu*il serait ridicule de les copier exactement."
— Mem. i. 73.
c.
Blach as a mourning Colour (Vol. viii., p. 411.).
— Mourning habits are said first to appear in Eng-
land in the time of Edward III. Chaucer and
Froissart are the first who mention them. The
former, in Troylus and Creseyde^ says :
** Creseyde was in widowe's halut Hack,"
Again :
** My clothes everichone
Shall bkicke ben, in tolequyn, herte swete^
That I am as out of this world gone.**
Again, in the Knights Tale^ Falamon appeared
at a funeral
" In clothes black dropped all with tears.*'
Froissart says, the Earl of Foix clothed himself
and household in black on the death of his son. At
the funeral of the Earl of Flanders black gowns
were worn. On the death of King John of iiVance,
the King of Cyprus wore black. The very men-
tion of these facts would suggest that black was
not then universally worn, but being gradually
adopted for mourning. B. H. U.
Chanting of Jurors (Vol. vi., p. 315.). — No
answer has yet been given to J. F. F.*8 Query on
this, yet the expression *'to chant*' was not an
unusual one, if we may believe Lord Strafford :
** They collected a grand jury in each county, and
proceeded to claim a ratification of the rights of the
crown. The gentlemen on being empanelleid were in-
formed that the case before them was irresistible, and
that no doubts could exist in the minds of reasonable
Nov. 19. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIE&
503
men upon it. His majesty was, in fact, indifferent
whether they found for him or no. * And there I left
them,' says Strafford, * to chant together, as they call it,
over their evidence.' The counties of Roscommon,
Sligo, and Mayo instantly found a title for the king.**
This extract is from a very eloquent article on
Lord Strafford in the British Critic^ No. LXVL
p. 485. W. Fra8£B.
Tor-Mohun.
Aldress (Vol. v., p. 582.). — Your correspondent
CowGiLL gives an instance of the use of this obso-
lete word in an epitaph in St. Stephen's, Norwich,
and asks where else it may be met with. I have
just found it in a manuscript diary, under date
1561, and also as used in the same city :
** A Speech made after Mr. Mayor Mingay's Dinner.
" Master Mayor of Norwich ; an it please your
worship you have feasted us like a kinge. God bless
the Queen's grace. We have fed plentifully, and now
whilom I can speak plain English, I heartily thank
you Master Mayor, and so do we all. Answer, boys,
answer ! Your beere is pleasant and potent, and soon
catches us by the caput and stops our manners, and so
Huzza for the Queen's Majesty's Grace, and all her
bonny brow'd dames of honour ! Huzza for Master
Mayor and our good dame Mayoress, the Alderman
and his faire Aldress ; there they are, God save them
and all this jolly company. To all our friends round
country who have a penny in their purse, and an
English heart in their bodies, to keep out Spanish Dons
and Papists with their faggots to burn our whiskers.
Shove it about. Twirl your cup-cases, handle your
jugs, and huzza for Master Mayor and his good
dame ! "
How long is it since the ladies of our civic dig-
nitaries relinquished the distinction here given to
one of their order ? What was the cup-case ?
Charles Keed.
Paternoster Row.
Huggins and Muggins (Vol. viil., p. 341.). —
In the edition of Mallet's Northern Antiquities^
edited by J. A. Blackwell, Esq., and published by
Bohn (^Antiquarian Library^ 1847), tne following
conjectural etymology of the words Huggins and
Muggins is given by the editor in a note on the
word Muninnj in the glossary to the Prose Edda :
" We cannot refrain for once from noticing the cu-
rious coincidence between the names of Odin's ravens,
Hugin and Munin — Mind and Memory — and those
of two personages who figure so often in our comic
literature as Messrs. Huggins and Muggins. Huggint,
like Hughy appears to have the same root as Hugin,
viz. hugr, mind, spirit ; and as Mr. Muggins is as in-
variably associated with Mr. Huggins, as one of Odin's
ravens was with the other (as mind is with memory),
the name may originally have been written Munnins,
and nn changed into gg for the sake of euphony.
Should this conjecture, for it is nothing else, be well
founded, one of the most poetical ideas in the whole
range of mythology would, in this plodding, practical,
spinning-jenny age of ours, have thus undergone a
most singular metamorphosis.'*
Jno. N. Radcuitb.
Dewsbury,
Camera Lucida (Vol. viii., p. 271.). — With my
camera lucida I received a printed sheet of in-
structions, from which the following extract is
made, in answer to Caret :
" Those who cannot sketch comfortably, without
perfect distinctness of both the pencil and object, must
observe, that the stem should be drawn out to the mark
D, for all distant objects, and to the numbers 2, 3, 4, 5,
&c. for objects that are at the distances of only 2, 3,
4, or 5 feet respectively, the stem being duly inclined
according to a mark placed at the bottom ; but, after
a little practice, such exactness is wholly unnecessary.
The farther the prism is removed from the paper, that
is, the longer the stem is drawn out, the larger the ob-
jects will be represented in the drawing, and accord-
ingly the less extensive the view.
" The nearer the prism is to the paper, the smaller
will be the objects, and the more extensive the view
comprised on the same piece of paper.
" If the drawing be two feet from the prism, and the
paper only one foot, the copy will be half the size of
the original. If the drawing be at one foot, and the
paper three feet distant, the copy will be three tim^
as large as the original : and so for all other distances.**
T. B. Johnston.
Edinburgh.
" When Orpheus went down" (Vol. viii., pp. 196*
281.). — This seems to be rightly attributed to
Dr. Lisle. See Dodsley's Collection of PoenUy
vol. vi. p. 166. (1758), where it is stated to have
been imitated from the Spanish, and set to mu^c
by Dr. Hayes. It is not quite correctly given in
" N. & Q.'"^ J. Kblway.
The Arms of De Sissone (Vol. viii., p. 243.). —
I beg to refer J. L. S. to Histoire Genealogique et
Chronologique de la Maison Rot/ale de France, ^c^
tom. viii. p. 537., Paris, 1733 ; and also to Ltvre
d'Ordela Noblesse^ p. 429., Paris, 1847.
CiiBsicns (D).
Oaths of Pregnant Women (Vol. v., p. 393.). —
Women of the humbler classes in the British.
Islands appear to have an objection, when preg-
nant, to taJce an oath. I have not observed any
attempt to explain or account for this prejudice.
The same objection exists among the JBurmese.
Indeed, pregnant women there are, by long-ob-
served custom, absolved from taking an oath, and
affirm to their depositions, "remembering their
pregnant condition." The reason of this is as
follows. The system of Budhism, as it prevails in
the Indo-Chinese countries, consists essentially in
the negation of a Divine Providence. The oath of
Budhists is an imprecation of evil on the swearer,
604
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 212.
addressed to the innate rewarding powers of
nature, animate and inanimate, if the truth be not
spoken. This evil may be instantaneous, as Sud-
eten death from a fit, or from a flash of lightning ;
the first food taken may choke the false swearer ;
or on his way home, a tiger by land, or an alli-
gator by water, may seize and devour him. I
have known an instance of this occur, which was
spoken of by hundreds as a testimony to the truth
of the system. Now it is supposed by Budhists
that even an unconscious departure from truth
may rouse jealous nature to award punishment.
In the case of pregnant women this would involve
the unborn offspring in the calamity. Hence
women in that condition do not take an oath in
Burmah. Ph.
Kangoon.
LepeTs Regiment (Vol. vii., p. 501.). — J. K.
may rest assured that no trace can now be disco-
vered of a regiment thus named, which existed in
the year 1707. I have searched the lists of cavalry
and infantrjr regiments at the battle of Almanza,
fought April 25th of that year, and do not find
this regiment mentioned. May I substitute for
" Lepers " regiment, " Pepper's " regiment P The
colonelcy of that corps, now the 8 th Royal Irish
Hussars, became vacant by the fall of Brigadier-
General Robert Killigrew at Almanza, and it was
immediately conferred on the lieutenant-colonel
of the corps, John Pepper, who held it until
March 23, 1719. G.L. S.
Editions of the Prayer Book prior to 1662
(Vol. vi., pp. 435. 564. ; Vol. vii. passim), — I
nave recently met with the following editions,
which have not, I think, been yet recorded in
your pages :
1630. folio, London.
1639. 4to. Barker and Bill. ^
1661. 8vo. London, Duporti, Latin.
The first and third are in Mr. Darling's Encyc,
BibLy see columns 366, 367 ; the second I saw at
Mr. Straker's, Adelaide Street, Strand.
Will some of your readers kindly tell me in
what edition of the Prayer Book the " Prayers at
the Healing " are last met with P I have them in
a Latin Prayer Book, 12mo. London, 1727.*
W. Sparrow Simpson.
Creole (Vol. vii., p. 381. ; Vol. viii., p. 138.). —
I have never met with any satisfactory explanation
of the origin of this word ; its meaning has under-
gone various modifications. At first it was limited
[* It appears from a note in Pepys's Biaryt June 23,
1660, that ihe library of the Duke 5f Sussex contained
four several editions of the Book of Common Prayer,
all printed after the accession of the House of Hanover,
and all containing, as an integral part of the service,
«« The Office for the Healing."— Ed.]
in its application to the descendants of Europeans
born in the colonies. By degrees it came to be
extended to all classes of the population of colo-
nial descent ; and now it is indiscriminately em-
ployed to express things as well as persons, of
local oriffin or growth. We say a Creole negro, as
contra-distinguished from a negro born in Africa
or elsewhere ; a Creole horse, as contra-distin-
guished from an English or an American horse ;
and we speak " Creole ** when we address the un-
educated classes in their native jargon.
Henry H. Breeit.
St. Lucia.
Daughter pronounced "Da/ter "( Vol.viii., p. 292.).
— This pronunciation is universal in North Corn-
wall and North-west Devonshire. J. R. P.
Richard Qeering (Vol. viii., p. 340.). — If
Y. S. M. will favour me with the parentage of
"Richard Geering, one of the six clerks in
chancery in Ireland," I shall be better able to
judge whether he was of the family of Geering,
Gearing, or Geary, of South Denchworth in the
CO. of Berks, of which family I have a pedigree.
I can also supply their coat of arms and crest.
Any information of the Geerings, ancestors of the
said Richard, the chancery clerk, will be acceptable
to your occasional correspondent H. C. C.
If this Richard Geering is related to the Geer-
ings of South Denchworth, in Berkshire, I refer
Y. S. M. to Clarke's Hundred of Wantir^^ Parker,
Oxford, 1824.
The Geerings bought the manor of Viscount
Cullen. It was formerly in the possession of the
Hydes : several of the Geering monuments are in
the church. Their arms. Or, on two bars gules
six mascles of the field, on a canton sable a
leopard's face of the first. The Geerings were
long tenants of a part of the estate which they
purchased ; they are extinct in the male line. A
grandson, John Beckett, Esq. (by the female line),
of the last heir, possessed a small farm in the
parish which was sold by him some years ago.
The manor now belongs to Worcester College,
Oxford, who purchased it of Gregory Geering,
gent., in 1758. The name is spelt Gearing and
Geary in the early registers.
The books in the small study (mentioned in
"N. & Q.** some time ago) were given by Gregory
Geering, Esq., Mr. Ralph Kedden, vicar of
Denchworth, and Mr. Edward Brewster, sta-
tioner, of London, most of which are attached by
long chains to the cases. Julia R. Bockett.
Southcote Lodge.
Island (Vol. viii., p. 279.). — H. C. K. is quite
right in saying that the s has been inserted in this
word : not, however, as he thinks, ** to assimilate
KOT. 19. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
the Saxon and French terms," but from a fftncied
French or Latin derivation, just as rime is spelt
rhyme, because Jt nas fancied that it came from
fiu9nhs ; and as critics and editors will print ccetum
instead of cielum, contrary to all authoritj, be-
cause tbe^ have taken it into their heads that it
comes from Kai\or, We have eiIso ipright, im-
pregnable, and other misspelt words, for nliich it is
difficult to assign a reason. But I think H. C. K.
is altogether mistaken in connecting the A.-S. ^
(pr. eep, an island, with eye. It is evidently one of
tne original underived nouns of the Teutonic fa-
inilj, being ig A.-S., ey Icel., whence 6 Swed., S or
oe Dan., and whicb also appears in the German and
Dutch eiland; nblle in the words for eye Haeg is
radical, as eage A.-S., avgu Icel., auge Germ.,
<w^ Dutch. T. K.
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The State Prison in the Tower, by William Sidney
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Vol. VIII. — No. 213.
THE STATE PRISON IN THE TOWEB.
A paragraph has lately gone the round of the
newspapers, in which, after mentioning the alter-
ations recently made in the Beauchamp Tower and
the opening of its " written walls" to public in-
spection, it is stated that this Tower was formerly
the place of confinement for state prisoners, and
that " Sir William Walla(;e and Queen Anne
Boleyn" were amongst its inmates.
Now, I believe there is no historical authority
for saying that "the Scottish hero" was ever con-
fined in the Tower of London ; and it seems cer-
tain that the unfortunate queen was a prisoner in
the royal apartments, which were in a difierent
part of the fortress. But so many illustrious per-
sons are known to have been confined in the
Beauchamp Tower, and its walls preserve so many
curious inscriptions — the undoubted autographs
of many of its unfortunate tenants — that it must
always possess great interest.
Speaking from memory, I cannot say whether
the building known as the Beauchamp (or Wake-
field) Tower was even in existence in the time of
Edward I. ; but my impression is, that its archi-
tecture is not of so early a time. It is, I believe,
supposed to derive its name from the confinement
in it of Thomas de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick,
in 1397. Of course it was not the only place of
durance of state prisoners, but it was the prison
of most of the victirils of Tudor cruelty who were
confined in the Tower of London ; and the walls
of the principal chamber, which is on the first
storey, and was, until lately, used as a mess-room
for the officers, are covered in some parts with
those curious inscriptions by prisoners which were
first described in a paper read before the Society
of Antiquaries in 1796, by the Rev. J. Brand, and
published in the thirteenth volume of The Ajxhao'
logia,
Mr. P. Cunningham, in his excellent Handbook^
says:
« William Wallace was lodged as a prisoner on his
first arrival in London in the bouse of William de
Leyre, a citizen, in the parish of All Hallows Staining,
at the end of Fenchurch Street."
510
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 213,
Mr. Cunningham, in his notice of the Tower,
mentions Wallace first among the eminent persons
who have been confined there. The popular ac-
counts of the Tower do the like. It was about
the Feast of the Assumption (Aug. 15) that
Wallace was taken and conducted to London ;
and it seems clear that he was forthwith im-
prisoned in the citizen's house :
** He was lodged,** says Stov, ** in the house of
William Delect, a citizen of London, in Fenchurch
Street. On the morrow, being the eve of St. Bartho-
lomew (23rd Aug.), he was brought on horseback to
Westminster . . . the mayor, sheriffs, and aldermen of
London accompanying him ; and in the Great Hall at
Westminster . . . being impeached," &c.
The authorities cited are, Adam Merimuth and
Thomas de La More. His arraignment and con-
Uenmation on the Vigil of St. Bartholomew are
also mentioned by Matthew Westminster, p. 451.
Neither these historians, or Stow or Holinshed,
afford any farther information. The latter chi*o-
nicler says that Wallace was ** condemned, and
thereupon hanged" {Chron., fol., 1586, vol. ii.
p. 313.). He was executed at Smithfield ; and it
IS not improbable that, if, after his condemnation,
he was taken to any place of safe custody, he was
lodged in Newgate. The following entry of the
expenses of the sheriffs attending his execution is
on the Chancellor's Koll of 33 Edw. I. in the
British Museum :
** Et in expeni t misis fcis p eos3 Vice*" p Willo le
Walleys Scoto lat^ne predone puplico utlagato inimico
et rebellione p> qui in contemptu P> p Scociam se
Regem Scocic falso fecat noiare t t ministros {^ in
■ptibus Scocic inUecit atq. dux' excercitu hostilit contr*
Rege p judiciu Cur 1^ apud Westih dist'heudo sus-
pendendo decollando ej viscera concremando ac cj
corpus q^rterando cuj corpis quartia ad iiij mi^iores
▼illas Scocie t*nsmittebantur hoc anno .... £xj s. juL'*
The day of the trial, August 23, is generally
given as the date of his execution. It therefore
appears that the formidably Scot never was a
prisoner in the Tower.
The unfortunate Queen Anne Boleyn occupied
the royal apartments while she was a prisoner in
the Tower. From Speed's narrative, it appears
that she continued to occupy them after she was
condemned to death. On May 15 (1536) she was
(says Stow)
<* Arraigned in the Tower on a scaffold made for the
purpose in the King's Hall; and afler her condemn-
ation, she was conveyed to ward again, the Lady
Kingston, and the Lady Boloigne her aunt, attending
on her."
On May 19, the unfortunate queen was led forth
to "the green by the White Tower" and he-
Beaded.
In the record of her trial before the Duke of
Norfolk, Lord High Steward (see Report of JDc-
puty Keeper of Public Records)^ she is ordered to
DC taken back to " the king*s prison within the
Tower;" but these are words of form. The oral
tradition cannot in this case be relied upon, for it
pointed out the Martin Tower as the place of her
imprisonment because, as I believe, her name was
found rudely inscribed upon the wall. The Beau-
champ Tower seems to have been named only
because it was the ordinary state prison at the
time. The narrative quoted by Speed shows,
however, that the place of her imprisonment was
the queen's lodging, where the fading honours of
royalty still surrounded Anne Boleyn.
William Sidney Gibson.
Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
INEBITBD LBTTBB FROM HENRT Tin. OF EN€U:<AND
TO JAMES V. OF SCOTLAKD.
I lately transcribed several very interesting
original manuscripts, chiefly of the seventeenth
century, but some of an earlier date, and now
send you a literal specimen of one evidently be-
longing to the sixteenth century ; although, not-
withstanding the day of the month is given, the
year is not. If you think it worthy of a place in
your very excellent publication, you are quite at
liberty to make use of it, and I shall be happy to
send you some of the others, if you choose to
accept them. They chiefly relate to the period
when the Duke of Lauderdale was commissioner
for Scotch affairs at the English Court ; and one
appears to be a letter addressed by the members
of the Scottish College at Paris to James I. on the
death of his mother. Thos. Nimmo.
Right excellent right high and mighty prince,
our most dereste brother and nephew, we recom-
mende us unto you in our most hertee and affec-
tuous roaner by this berer, your familyar servitor,
David Wood. We have not only receyved your
most loving and kinde let" declaring how moch ye
tendre and regarde the conservation and mayn-
tennance of good amytie betwene us, roted and
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and confesse to be daylly more and more in your
consideration and remembraunce (but also two
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JTOT. 26. 1853.] KOTES AND QUEBIES. flU
good and nertooDS ^nce, have gonKK^e to herte **>•* '• " oft*" *■* "•* that penoai ire 4t a loH'Ibr
and mynde the (mod nde and order n[^K>n the wsntofwich » guide, but i( »(>*(*« Aw," mo.
borders (with redreese and refoniMcion of inch Now, the luggesticm of a thort printed gnide t»
kttemptats as haTe been conij>tted and done in the the readijtg-room was evidentlj considered as of
Mme), not doubting bat if je for joar partie as we some importance. The principle of smiu cDittua
intende for ours (doe effectuailj persiste and con- is also of some importance. We observe that
tjnne in BO good and uertnoie purpose and intente), lord Seymour the esaminer ascribes the sugges-
iiot only our realmes and subjectts ihall lyae tion to some witneaies — but lord Seymour the
qujetlj and peasablj without occasion of brecbe, reporter claims tbe credit of it for himself! It is
but also we their heddes and goneraont shall bo the afler-tbouglit of his lordship of which I have
encrease and angroent oar sjncere lore and to complain.
sffecoD as shall, be to the inilissotuble asauram- If we turn to the evidence, it will appear that
mente of good peace and euretie to the inestimable Mr. Feter Cunningham suggested a printed
benefit, wealth, and comodicie of ns our realmes " catalogue of the books in the readine-room,"
Mad subjectts hereafter. Q. 4800. — I must now speak of myself When
Bight excellent right high and mightie prynce^ summoned before the commissioners as a witness,
our most derest brother and nephew, the olessed I took with me the printed Directions respecting
Trynytie have you in bis government. the reading-room for the express purpose ot point-
Given under our signet at Yorke place besides ing out their inconsistency and insufficiency, and
Westminster, the 7th day of December. of advocating the preparation of a guide-book.
Your lovyng brother and uncle, ^^ I cannot repeat my arguments. It would oc-
Henbt will cupy too much space. I can only refer to the
[This letler, which i) not included in the Siait questions 6106— 6116. The substance is this: —
Papers, " King Henry VIII.," published by tbe Re- I Contended that every person admitted to the
cord Commissioners, was probably written on the 7ih reading-room should be furnished with instruc-
Deeember, 1524-25, as in the fuurth voluaiB of that tions hou) tu proceed — instructions as to tbe cabl-
colleetion is a letter from Magnus to Wolscy, in which lognes tvhich ke shovld Coiisull — and instructions
he says, p. 301. : " Davy V/aod eame hoome about the for ashing for the books. On that evidence rests
■me tyme, and sithenne his iiider eomming haih my claim to the credit of having suggested it
dootw, and continually dooth mycbe good, mating Guide to the reading-room. Its validity shall be
honourable reaporl not oonly to the Quenes Grace, left to the decision of those who venerate the
but also to another. He is worthy thank es and gra- motto ofTom Heame — Sdcm cuiQOE.
mercea." This David Wod or Wood, was a servant of jjjg trustees of the British Museum seem to
the queen, Margaret of Scotland.] have paid no attention to the recommendation of
the royal commissioners. Tliey issue the same
Directions as before. After you have obtained
HAHSBOOK TO THE LiBR&BT OT THE BOITIBH admission to (he reading-room, you are furnished
MUSBDH. with instructions as to the mode of obtaining it! —
In the Report of the royal commissioners on the but you have no guide to the numerous catidOTues.
British Museum, printed in 1850, we read — What Mr. Antonio Panizzi, the keeper or the
„ ,,, r ■ - .t . ■.!. r . L department of printed books, says might be done^
" We are of opinion thnt, with reference to such a t,/,^ -r,- l j c ^ *i. j . ^ e
measure as the one now sueeested reivine information Kichard Sims, of the department of manu-
to persons at a distance as W the exislenM of works in scripts, Bays shall be done. His Handbook ti> the-
tbe library], and to other measures and regulaiioni ^'"'^'^ •>/ '^e British Museum is a very compre-
generally affecting the use of the library, it is desirable hensive and instructive volume. It is a trium-
to prepare and publish b compendious Guide to the phant refutation of the opinions of those who, to
Ttadiag-room, as described and luggiOed by lord the vast injury of literature, and serious incoD'
Seymour at Q. 9521." venience of men of letters, slight common senee
The reference is erroneous. At Q. 9521. there ""^ "?' "'■''*J' '". ^'"'"" °^ visionary schemes and
■j not a word on the BubjectI At Q. 9322. we P™?""' elaboration.
read-
"{Lord SeynovT— to Antonio Fanlzzi, Ek].) Yon
a great advantage to those who frequent the reading-
There is no want of precedents for a work of
this class, cither abroad or at home. As to the-
public library at Paris— I observe, in my own--
small collection, an Euai kistoriqite stir la biblio'-
thique dti roi, par M. le Prince ; a Histuirt
printed guide to the reading-room, lo tell them what wfimei de, medaMes, pir M. Marion du Mersan i
books of reference there wrre, and to tell them bow » Notice des esiampes, par M. Duchesne, &C.
they were to proceed to get books, and other infom.- For a precedent at home, I shall refer to the
ation, from the want of which they state Ibey have Synopni of the eonletlta of the British Mvtma.
been at a great loss? {Mr. FtoUxn.y I do not bcliava Tbe^teditiOD of that interesting work, witbth*
NOTES AND QUERIES. [No. 21S.
or. 26. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
513
as if it had been with an iron hammer) given ; to the
■{ ^reat amazing of me and my two servants, Fulcis and
d INilkton.''
^ D. Jardine.
Miixav ^0ttjsf»
^ Bojid a Poet, 1642, O. S. — In the Perfect Di-
^ umall, March 29, 1642, we Lave the following
3 curious notice :
f ** Upon the meeting of the House of Lords, there
: teas complaint made against one Bond, a poet, for
: making a scandalous letter in the queen's name, sent
£ from the Hague to the king at York. The said Bond
j; attended upon order, and was examined, and found a
. delinquent ; upon which they voted him to stand in the
pillory several market days in the new Palace (Yard),
Westminster, and other places, and committed him to
the Gatehouse, besides a long imprisonment during the
pleasure of the house : and they farther ordered that
as many of the said letter as could be found should be
i burnt."
' His recantation, which he afterwards made, is in
^ the British Museum. E. G. Ballabd.
The late Harvest. — In connexion with the pre-
sent late and disastrous harvest, permit me to
contribute a distich current, as an old farmer
observed to-day, "when I was a boy :'*
** "When we carry wheat o' the fourteenth of October,
Then every man goeth home sober,"
Meaning that the prospect of the "yield" was not
good enough to permit the labourers to get drunk
upon it. R. C. Wardb.
Kidderminster.
Misquotation. — In an article entitled " Popular
Ballads of the English Peasantry," a correspondent
of " N. & Q." (Vol. v., p. 603.) quotes as " that
spirit-stirring stanza of immortal John^^ the lines ;
" Jesus, the name high over all," &c.
These lines were not written by John^ but by
Charles Wesley. Here is the proof:
1st. A hymn of which the stanza quoted is the
first, appears (p. 40.) in the Collection of Hymns
published by John Wesley in 1779 ; but in the
preface he says, " but a small part of these hymns
are of my own composing."
2nd. In his Plain Account of Christian Per'
fection^ he says :
" In the year 1749, my brother printed two volumes
of Hymns and Sacred Poems, As I did not see them
before they were published, there were some things in
them which I did not approve of; but I quite ap-
proved of the main of the hymns on this head.'' — Worksy
vol. xi. p. 376., 12mo. ed. 1841.
3rd. The lines quoted by your correspondent
form the ninth stanza of a hymn of twenty-two
stanzas (which includes the six in John Wesley's
Collection)^ written " after preaching (in a church),"
and published in " Hymns and Sacred Poems, Xa
two volumes. By Charles Wesley, M.A., Student
of Christ Church, Oxford. Bristol : printed and
sold by Felix Farley, 1749." A copy is in my
possession. The hymn is No. 194.; arid the
stanza referred to will be found in vol. i. p. 306.
J. W. Thomas.
Dewsbury.
Epitaph in Ireland. — The following lines were
transcribed by me, and form part of an epitaph
upon a tombstone or mural slab, which many
years past was to be found in (if I mistake not)
the churchyard of Old Kilcullen, co. Kildare :
** Ye wiley youths, as you pass by.
Look on my grave with weeping eye :
Waste not your strenth before it blossom.
For if you do yoiis will shurdley want it."
J. F. Ferguson.
Dublin.
Heynolds (Sir Joshua's) Baptism. — I have been
favoured by the incumbent of Plympton S. Mau-
rice with a copy of the following entry in the
Register of Baptisms of that parish, together with
the appended note ; which, if the fact be not
generally known, may be of interest to your cor-
respondent A. Z. (Vol. viii., p. 102.) as well as to
others among the readers of " N. & Q." :
" 1723. Joseph, son of Samuel Reynolds, clerk>
baptized July the 30th."
On another page is the following memorandum :
" In the entry of baptisms for the year 1723, the
person by mistake named Joseph, son of Samuel Rey-
nolds, clerk, baptized July 30th, was Joshua Reynolds,
the celebrated painter, who died February 23, 1792.**
Samuel Reynolds, the father, was master of
Plympton Grammar School from about 1715 to
1745, in which year he died. During that period
his name appears once in the parish book, in the
year 1742, as "minister for the time being" (not
incumbent of the parish) : the Rev. Geo. Lang-
worthy having been the incumbent from 1736 to
1745, both inclusive.
Query, Was Sir Joshua by mistake baptized
Joseph ? or was the mistake made after baptism,
in registering the name ? J» Sansom.
Oxford.
Tradescant.—HliQ pages of "N. & Q." have
elicited and preserved so much towards the his-
tory of John Tradescant and his family, that the
accompanying extract from the register of St.
Nicholas Cole Abbey, in the city of London, should
have a place in one of its Numbers :
" 1 638. Marriages. — John Tradeskant of Lambeth,
CO. Surrey, and Hester Pooks of St. Bride's, London,
maiden, married, by licence from Mr. Cooke, Oct. 1.**
S14:
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No.. tlS.
Tfa'w lady erected the original monument in
Lambeth churchjard upon the death of her hus-
band in 1662. She died 1678. G.
GBAMMAB IN RELATION TO LOGIC.
Dr. Latham (Outlines of Logic, p. 21., 1847, and
English Langvagey p. 510., 2nd edition) defines the
conjunction to be a part of speech that connects
propositions, not worass His doctrine is so palpably
and demonstrably false, that I am somewhat at a
loss to understand how a man of his penetration
-can be so far deceived by a crotchet as to be
blind to the host of examples which point to the
•direct converse of his doctrine. Let the learned
Doctor try to resolve the sentence. All men are
either two-legged, one-legged, or no-legged, into
three constituent propositions. It cannot be done ;
either and or are nere conjunctions which connect
words and not propositions. In the example,
John and James carry a basket, it is of course quite
plain that the logic of the matter is that John
carries one portion of the basket, arid James carries
the rest, But to identify these two propositions
with the first mentioned, is to confound grammar
With logic. The former deals with the method of
expression, the latter with the method of stating
•^in thought) and syllogising. To take another
example, Charles and Thomas stole all the apples.
The fact probably was, that Charles* pockets con-
tained some of the apples, and Thomas* pockets
contained all the rest. But the business of gram-
mar in the above sentence is to regulate the fo7*m
of the expression, not to reason upon the matter
expressed. A little thought will soon convince
any person accustomed to these subjects that
conjunctions always connect words, not propositions.
The only work in which I have seen Dr. Latham*s
^mdamental error exposed, is in Boole*s Mathe-
matical Analysis of Logic; the learned author,
though he seems unsettled on many matters of
logic and metaphysics, has clearly made up his
mmd on the point now under discussion. He
says :
" The proposition, every animal is either rational or
irrational, cannot be resolved into, Either every animal
is rational, or every animal is irrational. The former
belongs to pure categoricals, the latter to hypothe-
ticals [Query dittjunctives'\. In singular propositions
such conversions would seem to be allowable. This
animal is either rational or irrational, is equivalent to.
Either this animal is rational, or it is irrational. This
peculiarity of singular propositions would almost justify
our ranking them, though truly universals, in a separate
class, as Ramus and his followers did." — P. 59.
This certainly seems unanswerable.
If Dr. Latham is a reader of " N. & Q.,** I
should be glad if he would give his reasons for
adhering to his original doctrine in the £ace of
such facts as ^ose I have instanced.
C. Mansfield Inglbbt.
Birmingham.
THE CORONET [cBOWN] OF LLEWELYN AP GBIF-
FITH, FRINGE OF WALES.
A notice, transferred to The Times of the 5th
instant from a recent number of The Builder, on
the shrine of Edward the Confessor, after men-
tioning that ^ to this shrine Edward I. offered the
Scottish regalia and the coronation chair, which is
still preserved,** adds, "Alphonso, about 1280,
offered it the golden coronet of Lleweljm, Prince
of Wales, and other jewels.**
Who was Alphonso? And would the con-
tributor of the notice favour the readers of " N,
& Q.** with the authority in extenso for the offer-
ing of this coronet ?
The period assigned for the offering is certainly
too early ; Llewelyn ap Griffith, " the last sove-
reign of one of the most ancient ruling families of
Europe** (Hist. ofEnglatid, by Sir James Mackin-
tosh, vol. ii. p. 254.), having been slain at Boilth,
Dec. 11, 1282. Warrington (^Hist of Wales^
vol. ii. p. 271.), on the authority of Rymer's JVb-
dera, vol. ii. p. 224., says : ** Upon stripping Lle-
welyn there were found his Privy Seal ; a paper
that was filled with dark expressions, and a list
of names written in a kind of cypher;" omitting,
it will be observed, any reference to Llewelyn*^
coronet. That monarch's crown was probably
obtained and transmitted to Edward I. on the
capture, June 21, 1283, or shortly after, of his
brother David ap Griffith, Lord of Denbigh, who
had assumed the Welsh throne on the demise of
Llewelyn; the Princess Catherine, the daughter
and heir of the latter, and deiure sovereign Prin-
cess of Wales, being then an mfant. Warrington
states (vol. ii. p. 285.) that when David was
taken, a relic, highly venerated by the Princes of
Wales, was found upon him, called CrosseneyeJt-^
supposed to be a part of the real cross brought by
St. Neots into Wales from the Holy Land ; and
he adds that, besides the above relic, which was
voluntarily delivered up to Edward by a secretary
of the late Prince of Wales, " the crown of the
celebrated King Arthur, with many precious
jewels, was about this time presented to Edward,"
citing as his authorities Annates Waverleienses,
p. 238. ; Rymer*s Foedera, vol. ii. p. 247.
There are some particulars of these relics in the
ArchcBologia Camhrensis ; but neither that period-
ical, nor the authorities referred to by Warrington,
are at the moment accessible to me.
Cambro-Briton.
Not, 26. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
516
Miner <SLutxUi.
Monumental Brass at Wanlip, Co. Leicester^ and
Sepulchral Inscriptions in JEngtish. — In the church
of Wanlip, near this town, is a fine brass of a
knight and his ladj, and round the margin the
following inscription, divided at the corners of the
slab by the Evangelistic symbols :
** Here lyes Thomas Walssh, Knyght, lorde of Aniep,
and dame Kat'ine his Wyfe, whicbe in yer tyme made
the Kirke of Anlep, and halud the Kirkyerd first, in
Wirchip of God, and of oure lady, and seynt Nicholas,
that God haue yer soules and mercy, Anno Dui
millmo ceo® nonagesimo tercio.'*
Mr. Bloxam states, in his Mon, Arch, of Chreat
Britain^ p. 210., that —
** There are, perhaps, no sepulchral inscriptions in that
tongue (English) prior to the fifteenth century ; yet at
almost the beginning of it, some are to be met with,
and they became more common as the century drew to
a dose.*'
Is there any monumental inscription in English,
earlier than the above curious one, known to any
of your correspondents ? Wuxiam Kelly.
Leicester.
Influence of Politics on Fashion. — Can any one
of tne numerous readers of " N. & Q." explain
the meaning of the following passage of the note
of p. 305. of Alison's History of JSurope, 7th
edition ? —
** A very curious work might be written on the in-
fluence of political events and ideas on the prevailing
fashions both for men and women ; there is always a
certain analogy between them. Witness the shepherd-
plaid trousers for gentlemen, and coarse shawls and
muslins worn by ladies in Great Britain during the
Reform fervour of 1832-4."
Henri van Laun.
King William's College, Isle of Man.
Rev. W, BondaU. — Can any of your cor-
respondents give information respecting the Rev.
William llondall, Vicar of Blackhampton, Devon-
shire (1548), who translated into English a portion
of the writings of the learned Erasmus ?
HiSTOBICUS.
Henry, third Earl of Northumberland. — The
above nobleman fell on the battle field of Towton
(Yorkshire), 29th March, 1461, and was interred
in the church of St. Denys, or Dionisius, in York,
where his tomb, denuded of its brass, is still
pointed out. Pray does an account exist, in any
of our old historians, as to the removal of the body
of the above nobleman from that dread field of
slaughter to his mansion in Walmgate in the above
city, and of his interment, which doubtless was a
strictly private one? Again, does any record
exist of the latter event in any book of early re-
gisters belonging to the above church P Doubt*
less many readers of '* N. & Q." will be able to
answer these three Queries.
M. AlSLABIE DeNHAM*
Fiersebridge, Darlington.
** When %oe survey ^^ ^c. — ^Where are the follow-
ing lines to be found V
** When we survey yon circling orbs on high.
Say, do they only grace the spangled sky ?
Have they no influence, no function given
To execute the awful will of Heaven ?
Is there no sympathy pervading all
Between the planets and this earthly ball ?
No tactile intercourse from pole to pole.
Between the ambient and the human soul ?
No link extended through the vast profound.
Combining all above, below, around ? **
AXLEDIUS.
Tumbuirs Continuation of Robertson. — Some
years ago, a continuation of Robertson^s work on
Scottish Peerages was announced by Mr. Turnbull,
Advocate of Edinburgh. — I shall be glad to be
informed whether it was published ; and by whom
or where. FeciausI
An Heraldic Query. — "Will any one of your
contributors from Lancashire or Cheshire, who
may h^e access to ancient ordinaries of arms,
whether in print or in manuscript, favour me by
saying whether he has ever met with the follow-
ing coat : Per pale, argent and sable, a fess em-
battled, between three falcons counterchanged,
belled or ? It has been attributed to the family
of Thompson of Lancashire, by Captain Booth of
Stockport^ and an heraldic writer named Saun-
ders ; but what authority attaches to either I am
not aware. Is it mentioned in Corry's Lancashire f
Hebaldicus.
Osbom flius Herfasti. — Were Osborn, son of
Herfast, abbot of S. Evroult, and Osborn de
Crepon (filius Herfasti patris Gunnoris comiUssse),
brothers f or were there two Herfasts ?
J. Sansom.
Jews in China. — A colony of Jews is known to
exist in the centre of China, who worship God ac-
cording to the belief of their forefathers ; and the
aborigines of the northern portion of Australia
exercise the rite of circumcision. Can these
colonists and aborigines be traced to any of the
nations of the lost tribes P Histoeiciw.
Derivation of '' Mammet:' —The Rev. R. Che-
nevix Trench, in his book on the Study of Words^
4th edition, p. 79., gives the derivation of the old
English word mammet from " Mammetry or Maho-
metry," and cites, in proof of this, Capulet calling
his daughter *^ a whining mammet,'^ Now JohnsoiH
516
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 213^
in his Dictionary^ the folio edition, derives mammet
from the word maman, and also from the word
man ; and mentions Shakspeare*s
" This is no world to play with mammetSt or to tilt with
lips."— /fcnry IV. (First Part), Act II. Sc. 3.
As both Dr. Johnson, the Rev. Ch. Trench, and
many others, agree that mammet means " puppet,"
why not derive this word from the French marmot,
which means a puppet. — Can any of the readers
of the "N. & Q.' give me a few examples to
strengthen my supposition ? Henri van Law,
King William's College, Isle of Man.
Non-recurring Diseases, — Among the many
diseases to which humanity is subject, there are
some which we are all supposed to have once, and
but once, in our lifetime. Is this an unquestioned
fact ? and if so, has anything like a satisfactory
explanation of it been offered ? B.
Warville. — There being no to in the French
language, whence did Brissot de Warville derive
the latter word of his name ? Uneda.
Philadelphia.
Dr. Doddridge. — A poem entitled " To my Wife's
Bosom," and beginning
" Open, open, lovely breast,
Let me languish into rest ! ** %
occasionally appears with the name of the Rev.
Dr. Doddridge as the author. Is it his ? M. E.
Philadelphia.
Pelasgi. — In an article which appeared some
time ago in Hogg's Instructor, Thomas de Quin-
cey, speaking of the Pelasgi, characterises them
as a race sorrowful beyond conception. — Wliat
is known of their history to lead to this inference ?
T. D. Ridley.
West Hartlepool.
Hue's Travels, — I was lately told, I think on
the authority of a writer in the Gardener's Chro-
vide, that the travels of Messrs. Hue and Gabet in
Thibet, Tartary, &c., was a pure fabrication, con-
cocted by some Parisian litterateur. Can any of
your readers confirm or refute this statement ?
C. W. B.
27ie Mousehunt. — I should feel much obliged
to any reader of " N. & Q." who would refer me
to any mention of in print, or give me any in-
formation from his own personal experience, re-
specting a small animal of the weasel tribe called
tne mousehunt, an animal apparently but little
known ; it is scarcely half the size of the common
weasel, and of a pale mouse-colour. It is said to
be well known in Suffolk, whence, however, after
some trouble, I have been unsuccessful in obtain-
ing a specimen; young stoats or weasels having
been sent me instead of it. I could not find a
specimen in the British Museum. Some years
ago I saw two in Glamorganshire ; one escaped
me ; the other had been killed by a ferret, but
unfortunately I neglected to preserve it. Near
the same spot last year a pair of them began
making their nest, but being disturbed by some
workmen employed in clearmg out the drain in
which they had ensconced themselves, were lost
sight of and escaped.
Mr. Colquhoun, in 77ie Moor and the Lock^
ed. 1851, says :
" The English peasantry assert that there are two
kinds of weasel, one very small, called a <cane,* or
< the mousekiller.' This idea, I have no doubt, is
erroneous, and the * mousekillers * are only the young-
ones of the year, numbers of these half-grown weasels
appearing in summer and autumn.**
The only description I have met with in print is
in BelVs Life of Dec. 7, 1851, where "Scrutator,'*
in No. 15. of his Letters *• On the Management of
Horses, Hounds, &c.," writes :
" I know only of one species of stoat, but I have
certainly seen more than one species of weasel. ...»
There is one species of weasel so small that it can
easily follow mice into their holes ; and one of these,
not a month ago, I watched go into a mouse*s hole in
an open grass field. Seeing something hopping alon^
in the grass, which I took for a large long-tailed field
mouse, I stood still as it was approaching my position*
and when within a foot or two of the spot on which I.
was standing, so that I could have a full view of the
animal, a very small weasel appeared, and quickly dis-
appeared again in a tuft of grass. On searching the
spot I discovered a mousehole, in which Mr. Weasel
had made his exit."
W. R. D. Salmon.
Zochvood, the Court Jester. — In some MS.
accounts temp. Edw. VI., Mary, and Elizabeth,
now before me, payments to "Lockwood, the
king's jester," or ** the queen's jester, whose name
is Lockwood," are of almost annual occurrence.
He appears to have travelled about the country
like the companies of itinerant players.
Are any particulars known respecting him, and
where shall I find the best account of the ancient
court jesters ? I am aware of Deuce's work,
and the memoirs of Will. Somers, the fool of
Henry VIII. William Kelly.
Leicester.
Right of redeeming Property, — In some coun-
try or district which I have formerly visited,,
there exists, or did recently exist, a right of re-
deeming property which had passed from its-
owner's hands, somewhat similar to that pre-
scribed to the Jews in Leviticus xxvi. 25. &c.y
and analogous to the custom in Brittany, with
which Sterne's beautiful story has made us fa-
Nov. 26. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
517
miliar. Can you help me to remember where it
is? C.W.B.
Dictionary of Zingari, — Can you direct me to
n glossary or dictionary of this language ? I have
fleen Borrow's Lavengro^ and am not aware whe-
ther either of his other works contains anything of
the sort. I should imagine it cannot be a perfect
language, since the Rommanies located in our lo-
cality invariably use the English articles and pro-
nouns ; but knowing nothing more of it than what
1 glean from casual intercourse, I am unable to
decide to my own satisfaction. R. C. Warde.
Kidderminster.
[A dictionary of the Zincali will be found in the
first three editions of the following work: The Zincali;
or, an Account of the Gypsies of Spain ; with an original
Collection of their Songs and Poetry, and a copious
Dictionary of their Language. By George Borrow,
2 vols., 1841. This dictionary is omitted in the fourth
edition of 1846 ; but some " Specimens of Gypsy dia-
lects" are added. Our correspondent may also be re-
ferred to the two following works, which appear in the
current number of Quarritch's Catalogue: "Pott, Die
Zigeuner in Europa und Asien, vol. i. Einleitung und
Orammatik, ii. Uebcr Gaunersprachen, Worterbuch
«nd Sprachproben, 2 vols. 8vo. sewed, 155, Halle,
1844-45," " Rotwellsche Grammatlk oder Sprach-
kunst ; Worterbuch der Zigeuner-Sprache, 2 parts in
1, 12ino. half-bound morocco, 7s, 6d. Frankfurt,
1755."]
Si?* Robert Coke, — Of what family was Sir
Robert Coke, referred to in Granger, vol, iii.
p. 212., ed. 1779, as having collected a valuable
library bestowed by George, first Earl of Berkeley,
on Sion College, London, the letter of thanks for
which is in Collins ? T. P. L.
Manchester.
[Sir Robert Coke was son and heir to Sir Edward
Coke, Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench. The
Cokes had been settled for many generations in the
county of Norfolk. Camden has traced the pedigree
of the family to William Coke of Doddington in Nor-
folk, in the reign of King John. They had risen to
considerable distinction under Edward III., when Sir
Thoraas Coke was made Seneschal of Gascoigne. From
him, in the right male line, was descended Robert Coke,
the father of Sir Edward. See Campbell's Lives of
Chief Justices, vol. i. p, 240.]
Begium Donum. — What is the origin and his-
tory of the " Begium Donum ?" Henbi van Laun.
King William's College, Isle of Man.
[In the year 1672, Charles II. gave to Sir Arthur
Forbes the sum of 600/., to be applied to the use of
the Presbyterian ministers in Ireland. He professed
not to know how to bestow it in a better manner, as
iie had learnt that these ministers had been loyal, and
had even suffered aa his account ; and as that sum re-
mained undisposed of in "the settlement of the revenue
of Ireland," he gave it in his charity to them. This
was the origin of the Regum donum. As the dissenters
approved themselves strong friends to the House of
Brunswick, George I., in 172S, wished too to reward
them for their loyalty, and, by a retaining fee, preserve
them stedfast. A considerable sum, therefore, was
annually lodged with the heads of the Presbyterians,
Independents, and Baptists, to be distributed among
the necessitous ministers of their congregations.]
WTio was the Author of ^^ JemingJiam''* and
^^JDoveton ? " (Vol.viii., p. 127.). — Me. Anstrutheb
begs to decline the compliment ; perhaps the
publisher of the admirable History of the War in
Affghanistan can find a head to fit the cap.
Oswestr}'.
[On a reference to our note-book, we find our au-
thority for attributing the authorship of these works to
Mr. Anstruther is the Gentleman's Magazine for Sep-
tember, 1837, p. 28.S. In the review of Doveton the
writer says, " There is in it a good deal to amuse, and
something to instruct, but the whole narrative of
Mr, Anstruther is too melodramatic," &c. However,
as he declines the compliment, perhaps some of our
readers will be able to find the right head to fit the
cap.]
Alma Mater, — In Ainsworth's Latin DiC'
tionary I observed he limits the use of that ex-
pression to Cambridge. I have been accustomed
to see it used for Oxford, or any other university.
AVhat is his reason for applying it to Cambridge
alone ? Ma, L.
[Bailey, too, in his Dictionary, applies the epithet
exclusively to Cambridge, Alma mater Cantabrigia : so
that it seems to have originated with that university.
It is now popularly applied to Oxford, and other uni-
versities, by those who have imbibed the milk of
learning from these places. The epithet has lately been
transplanted to the United States of America.]
3ftcplte^»
ALEXANDER CLABK.
(Yol. viii., p. 18.)
In communicating a few particulars about
Alexander Clark, I must disappoint your corre-
spondent Pebthensis ; my subject answering^ in
no respect to Peter Buchan's " drucken dominie,"
the author of the Buttery College. Alexander
Clark, who has fallen in my way, belongs to the
class of" amiable enthusiasts ;" a character I am
somewhat fond of, believing that in any pursuit a
dash of the latter quality is essential to success.
Clark was by profession a gardener ; and as my
friends in the north always seek to localise their
worthies, I venture to assign him to Annandale.
My first acquaintance with him arose from his
518
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[No. 213.
Emblematical Representation falling into my hands ;
and, pursuing my inquiries, I found this was but
one of some half-dozen visionary works from
the same pen. In his View of the Glory of the
Messiah's Kingdom, we have the origin of his
taking upon himself the prophetic character ; it is
entitled :
** A Brief Account of an Extraordinary Revelation,
and other Things Remarkable, in the Course of God's
Dealings with Alexander Clark, Gardener, at Dum-
crief, near Moffat, Anandale, in the Year 1749."
"In the month of August, 1749," says he, "at a
certain time when the Lord was pleased to chastise me
greatly in a bed of affliction, and in the midst of my
great trial, it pleased the Almighty God wonderfully
to surprise me with a glorious light round about me ;
and looking up, I saw straight before me a glorious
building in the air, as bright and clear as the sun : it
was so vastly great, so amiable to behold, so full of
majesty and glory, that it filled my heart with wonder
and admiration. The place where this sight appeared
to me was just over the city of Edinburgh ; at the
same instant I heard, as it were, the musick bells of
the said city ring for joy."
From this period, Clark*s character became
tinged with that enthusiasm which ended in his
belief that he was inspired ; and that in publish-
ing his —
" Signs of the Times : showing by many infallible
Testimonies and Proofs out of the Holy Scripture,
tliat an extraordinary Change is at Hand, even at the
very Door," —
he was merely " emitting what he derived directly,
by special favour, from God I "
** The Spirit of God," he says on another occasion,
** was so sensibly poured out upon me, and to such a
degree, that I was thereby made to see things done in
lecret, and came to find things lost, and knew where to
go to find those things which were lost 1 "
This second sight, if I may so call it, set our
author upon drawing aside the veil from the pro-
phetic writings ; and his view of their mystical
sense is diffused over the indigested and rambling
works bearing the following titles :
"A View of the Glory of the Messiah's Kingdom."
1763.
** Remarks upon the Accomplishment of Scripture
Prophecy."
" A Practical Treatise on Regeneration." 1 764.
« The Mystery of God opened," &c. Edinburgh. 1 768.
** An Emblematical Representation of the Paradise of
God, showing the Nature of Spiritual Industry in
the Similitude of a Garden, well ordered, dressed,
and kept, with Sundry Reflections on the Nature
of Divine Knowledge, 1779."
In his Address to the Friendly Society of Gar'
deners, Clark gives some account of his worldly
condition ; of his early training in religious habits ;
his laborious and industrious devotion to his pro-
fession, with which he seems to have been greatly
enamoured, although poorly paid, and often in
straits. Subsequently to the great event of his life
— his vision — our subject appears to have come
south, and to have been in the employment of
Lord Charles Spencer at Hanworth in Middlesex.
Like most of the prophets of his day, Clark was
haunted with the belief that the last day was ap-
proaching; and considering himself called upon
to announce to his acquaintance and neighbours
that this " terrible judgment of God was at hand,**
he got but contempt and ridicule for his pains : —
more than that, indeed, for those raising the cry
that he was a madman, they procured the poor,
man's expulsion from his situation. Under all
these discouraging circumstances, he maintained
his firm conviction of the approaching end of time :
so strongly was his mind bent in this direction,
that *^ I opened the window of the house where I
then was, ' says he, " thinking to see Christ coming
in the clouds ! "
** I was three days and three nights that I could not
eat, drink, nor sleep ; and when I would close my eyes*
I felt something always touching me ; at length I beard
a voice sounding in mine ears, saying * Sleep not, lest
thou sleep the sleep of death :' and at that I looked
for my Bible, and at the first opening of it I read
these words, which were sent with power, * To him
that overcometh,* *' &c.
Poor Clark, like his prototype Thomas Newans,
laboured hard to obtam the sanction of the hier-
archy to his predictions :
*' I desire no man," he says, ** to belieye me without
proof; and if the Reverend the Clergy would think
this worth their perusal, I would very willingly hear
what they had to say either for or against.**
The orthodoxy of the " Reverend the Clergy" was
not, however, to be moved ; and Alexander Clark
and his books now but serve the end of pointing
a moral. With more real humility and less pre-
sumption, there was much that was good about
him ; but letting his heated fancies get the better
of the little judgment he possessed, our amiable
enthusiast became rather a stumbling-block than a
light to his generation. J. O.
AMCOTTS PEDIGBBE.
(Vol.viii., p. 387.)
Although I may not be able to furnish your
inquirer with a full pedigree of this family, my
Notes may prove useful in makinf^ it out.
From a settlement after marriage in 1663, of
Vincent Amcotts of Laughton, in the county of
Lincoln, gentleman, I find his wife*8 name to be
Amy; but who she was is not disclosed. It ap-
pears she survived her husband, and was his
Nov. 26. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
51 &
widow and relict and executrix liviog in 1687.
Their eldest cUuj^hter Elizabeth married John
Sheffield, Esq., of Croxb; ; and I have noted
three children of theirs, viz. Vincent, who died
B.p. ; Chriahipher, who, with Margaret, his wife,
in 1676 sold the Croxby estate; and Sarah. What
farther as to this brandi does not appear, although
my next Vincent Amcotta maj be, and probablj
was, a descendant. This Vincent AmcotU was of
Harrington, in the count; of Lincoln, Esq. ; and
who, from his marriage settlement dated Ma; 16
and 17, 1720, married Elizabeth, the third of the
four daughters of John Quincy of Aslaokbj, in the
county of Lincoln, gentleman : and I find the
issue of thia marriage to be Charles Amcotts of
Kettlethorpe, in the county of Lincoln, Esq., who
died in 1777 s. p. ; Anna Maria, who married
Wharton Emerson ; Elizabeth, who died previous
to her brother Charles ; and Frances, who mar-
ried the Rev. Edward Bnckworth of Washing-
borough, in the count/ of Lincoln, Clerk, Doctor
of Laws.
After the death of Charles Amcotts, we find
Wharton Emerson at Kettlethorpe, having as-
sumed the name of Amcotts : he waa created a
baronet in 1796, the title being limited in re-
mainder to the eldest son of his daughter Elizabeth.
Sir Wharton Amcotts married a second wife,
Amelia Campbell, by whom be had a daughter,
but what became of her does not appear. Eliza-
beth, the daughter and heir of Sir Wharton Am-
cotts by his first wife Anna Maria Amcotts,
married in 1780 John Ingilby, Esq^ of Eipley,
who in the next year was created a bar<»iet ; and
they appear to have had eleven children, viz, John,
Charles Amcotts, the present Sir William Amcotts
Ingelby, in whom both titles are vested, Eliza-
beth, Augusta, Anna Maris, and Ann ; which last
three died in infancy ; Diana, Vincent Eosville,
who died at a year old ; and Julia and Constance.
~ y Notes extend. W. S. IIesledeh.
Thus far my 1-
(Vol. viii., p. 272.)
I have an original letter of Sir Ralph WTnwood's,
in French, addressed "A Monsieur Mons' Charles
Huyshens, Secretaire du Conseil d'estat de Mesa"
les Estnts S la Haye," which, as it may possibly be
interesting to your correspondent H. P. W. H., I
here transcribe :
" Mons'. — Vos derniBres m'ont rendu tes-
inoignage de vostre boon' afiectton en mon en-
droict. Car je m'osseure que vous n'eussiez jamais
recommende vostre filz ik ma protection si moD
Dom n'eust estu enregistr£ au nombre de vos
meiUeurs et plus affectionnes amya. Je m'envay,
dans pen de joura, trouver Sa Ma'' en son re-
tour d'Escoce, et j'eepere sur la fin du moyg de
7*" de me rendre ^ ma maison ^ Londres. Sur
ce teraps-lii, s'il vous plaira d'envoy er v" filz vera
moy, it sera le bien vena. Son traittement rendra
tesmoinage de I'eatime que je fus de vostre amiti^.
De vous envoyer dea nouvelles, ce seroyt d'en-
voyer Noctaas AtAenai. Tout est coy icy. La
mort de Concini a rendu la France heureuse,
Mais ritalie est en danger d'estre expos^e ^ la
tiraanie d'Eapagne. Je vous baise les mains, et
suis, Mons', vostre plus affectionn^ servit',
RoDOlPHB WlHWOOD,
" De Londrea, le 7°" de Juillet,"
The year is not indicated, but the allusion t»
the death of Concini (the celebrated Mar^cbal
d' An ere, who was assaseinated by order of
Louis Xm.) proves that this letter was written in
1617, and very shortly before the death of the
writer, which occurred on the 27th of October in
that year.
M. Charles Hujghens, to whom the letter ia ad-
dressed, was probably the father of Constantiue-
Huyghens, the Dutch poet-politician, who was
secretarj and privy counsellor to the Stadtholders
Frederict Henry, and William I. and II., and
who, not improbably, was the son here mentioned
aa recommended to the protection of Sir R. Win-
wood, and who, at that date, would have been
twenty-one years of age.
Constantine was himself the father of the stilt
more celebrated Christian Huyghens, the astro-
nomer and mathematician. The seal on the letter,
which is in excellent preservation, ia a shield
bearing the following arms : 1. and 4. a cross bo-
tonn^ 2. and 3. three fleurs-de-lis. W. Shbts.
Denton.
TBEVCH OH PBOVBBBS.
(Vol. viii., p. 387.)
I hope that neither Mr. Trench nor his critic
E. M. B. wilt consiiier me interfering by my
making an observation or two on the correct ren-
dering of the latter part of Fs. cxxvii. 2, Mr.
Trench is perfectly correct by supposing an eilip-
sia in the sentence alluded to, and the words
should have been tranalated, "He will give to bia
beloved whilst he [the beloved] ia asleep." The
translation of the authorised version of that aacred
affirmation ia unintelligible. Mr. Trench has tie,
support of Luther's version, which has the •en-
teuce thug :
" Seinen Freunden giebt er ea •chlalEnd.'*
The celebrated German Jewish translator of the
Old Testament agrees with Mr. Trench. The fol-
lowing is Dr. Zunz's rendering :
" Das giebt er seineni LieliUng im SchUC*
620
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 213.
The following is the Hebrew annotation in the
far-famed Moses Mendelsohn's edition of the Book
of Psalms:
^i>3i \^ m)V2 n ran Kin i^rx )in'h n-^pn inan^
: nmtD
"The holy and blessed One will give it to his be-
loved, in whom He delights, whilst he is yet asleep
and without fatigue."
I need not adduce passages in the Hebrew
Psalter, where such cllipsises do occur. E. M. B.
evidently knows his Hebrew Bible well, and a
legion of examples will immediately occur to him.
MosEs Margoliouth.
"Wybunbury, Nantwicli.
If E. M. B. will refer to Hengstenberg's Com'
mentary on the Psalms, he will find that Mr.
Trench is not without authority for his trans-
lation of Ps. cxxvii. 2.* I quote the passage from
Thompson and Fairbairn's translation, in Clark's
Theological Library^ vol. iii. p. 449. :
** WK' for n^^ is not the accusative, but the prepo-
sition is omitted, as is frequently the case with words
that are in constant use. For example, 2"1J^, 1pn» to
which n^C^ l^ere is poetically made like. The expo-
sition He gives sleep, instead of iVt sleep, gives an un-
suitable meaning. For the subject is not about the
sleep, but the gain,**
C. I. E.
Winkfield.
Has the translation of Ps. cxxvii. 2., which ^Ir.
Trench has adopted, the sanction of any version
but that of Luther ? N. B.
ox PALINDROMES.
(Vol.vii., p. 178. &c.)
Several of your correspondents have offered
Kotes upon these singular compositions, and
Agbicola db Moxte adduces
"NIVON ANOMHMATA, MH MONAN 0>FIN *'
as an example. As neither he nor Mr. Ella-
combe give it as found oiU of this country, allow
me to say that it was to be seen on a benitier in
the church of Notre Dame at Paris. If it were
not for the substitution of the adjective MONAN
for the adverb MONON, the line would be one of
the best specimens of the recurrent order.
I notice that a correspondent (Vol. vii., p. 336.)
describes the palindrome as being universally 50-
tadic. Now, tliis term was only intended to apply
to the early samples of this fanciful species of
verse in Latin, the production of Sotades, a Uo-
man poet, 250 B.C. The lines given by Bceoticus
(Vol. vi., p. 209.),
" Roma tibi subito motibus ibit amor?"
owe their authorship to his degraded Muse, and
many others which would but pollute your pages.
The hexameter " Sacrum pin^e," &c. given
by n. ♦. (Vol. vi., p. 36.), is to be found in Misson*8
Voyage to Italy, copied from an old cloister wall
of Santa Marca Novella at Florence. These in-
genious verses are Leoline*, and it is noted that
"the sacrifice of Cain was not a living victim."
I have seen it stated that the English language
affords but one specimen of the palindrome, while
the Latin and Greek have many. The late Dr.
Winter Hamilton, the author 01 Nugce Literarice,
gives this solitary line, which at the best is awk-
wardly fashioned :
<< Lewd did I live & evil did I dwel.**
Is any other known ?
Some years since I fell in with that which, after
all, is the most wonderful effort of the kind ; at
least I can conceive of nothing at all equal to it.
It is to be found in a poem called Uolrifta
K.apKtv€Khvy written in ancient Greek by a modern
Greek called Ambrosius, printed in Vienna in
1802, and dedicated to the Emperor Alexander.
It contains 455 lines, every one of which is a
literal palindrome.
I have some hesitation in giving even a quota-
tion ; and yet, notwithstanding the forced cuarac-
ter of some of the lines, your readers will not fail
to admire the classic elegance of this remarkable
composition.
" E5 *E\i(rdS€T, "Avva t* HacrlKtvf,
''E\a€f rh Kcucd, Koi HxaKa KariSoKt,
*AptTh irfiya(rt 8i aa yrj 'frar4p€L
2«i$fiaTi crw <p4yt <pivt <pus Irc^uis,
2v 89} "Hpws olos 2 'Pws otos i&fnj rjivs :
No2 trh \a^ i\a^ oK^aiov,
ZSih ico iSvu iK€t tvQios its,
'*Ci 'Pwy lfA€ ri ah \v(nT€\h &pu,
*AAAd T^ iv vtf fidXt, \a€wu via t' &AXa
^cmijp (rh l^co (S» i\tt bit XccD, ts c9s ftiTUS
^hv iHe ffornipa (81& prirus iJiavhs"
Chablbs Rebd.
Paternoster Rovr,
Here is a palindrome that surrounds a figure of
the sun in the mosaic pavement of Sa. Maria del
Fieri at Florence :
** En giro torte sol ciclos et rotor igne."
Could any of your correspondents translate this
enigmatical line P Mosaftub.
E. L Club.
The Claymo7*e (Vol. viii., p. 365.). — I believe
there is no doubt that the true Scottish claymore
is the heavy two-handed sword, examples of which
are preserved at Dumbarton Castle, and at Haw-
* Leo was a poet of the twelfth century.
Nov. 26. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
521
thornden, and respectively attributed to William
Wallace, and to Robert the Bruce. The latter is
a very remarkable specimen, the grip being formed
either of the tusk of a walrus or of a small ele-
phant, considerably curved ; and the guard is con-
structed of two iron bars, terminated by trefoils,
and intersecting each other at right angles. The
blade is very ponderous, and shorter than usual
in weapons of this description.
The claymore of modern times is a broadsword,
double or single-edged, and provided with a
basket hilt of form peculiar to Scotland, though
the idea was probably derived from Spain.
Swords with basket hilts were commonly used by
the English cavalry in the reigns of Charles I.
and II., but they are always of a different type
from the Scotch, though affording as complete a
protection to the hand. I possess some half-
dozen examples, some from Gloucestershire, which
are of the times of the civil wars. There are
many swords said to have been the property of
Oliver Cromwell; one is in the United Service
Museum : all that I have seen are of this form.
W. J. Bebnhakd Smith.
Temple.
Temple Lands in Scotland (Vol. viii., p. 317.). —
Your correspondent Abbedonensis, upon a refer-
ence to the undernoted publications, will find
many interesting particulars as to these lands, viz. :
1. "Templaria: Papers relative to the History,
Privileges, and Possessions of the Scottish Knights
Templars, and their Successors the Knights of Saint
John of Jerusalem, &c. Edited by James Maidment.
Sm. 4vo. 1828-29."
2. " Abstract of the Charters and other Papers re-
corded in the Chartulary of Torphichen, from 1581 to
1596; with an Introductory Notice and Notes, by
John Black Gracie. Sm. 4to. 1830."
3. " Notes of Charters, &c., by the Right Hon.
Thomas Earl of Melrose, afterwards Earl of Hadding-
ton, to the Vassals of the Barony of Drem, from 1615
to 1627 ; with an Introductory Notice, by John Black
Gracie. Sm. 4to. 1830."
4. " Fragmenta Scoto- Monastica : Memoir of what
has been already done, and what Materials exist, to-
wards the Formation of a Scottish Monasticon : to
which are appended, Sundry New Instances of Goodly
Matter, by a Delver in Antiquity (W. B. Turnbull).
8vo. 1842."
The "Introductory Notices" prefixed to Nos.
2. and 3. give full particulars of the various sales
and purchases of the Superioritus, &c., by Mr.
Gracie and others. T. G, S.
Edinburgh.
Lewis and Sewell Families (Yol. viii., p. 388.).
— Your correspondent may obtain, in respect to
the Lewis family, much information in the Life
and Correspondence of Matthew Gregory Lewis,
two vols. Svo., London, 1839, particularly at
pp. 6. and 7. of vol. i. He will there find that
Matthew Lewis, Esq., who was Deputy Secretary
of War for twenty-six years, married Frances
Sewell, youngest daughter of the Right Hon. Sir
Thos. Sewell ; that Lieut.-Gen. AYhitelocke and
Gen. Sir Thos. Brownrigg, G.C.B., married the
other two daughters of Sir Thos. Sewell; and
that Matthew Gregory Lewis, who wrote the
Cattle Spectre, &c., was son of Matthew Lewis,
Esq., the Deputy Secretary at War.
With regard to the Sewell family. The Right
Hon. Sir Thos. Sewell, who was Master of the
Rolls for twenty years, died in 1784 ; and there
is, I believe, a very correct account of his family
connexions in the GentlemarCs Magazine for 1784,
p. 555, He died intestate, and his eldest son,
Thos. Bailey Heath Sewell, succeeded to his
estate of Ottershaw and the manors of Stannards
and Fords in Chobham, Surrey. This gentlemaa
was a magistrate for the county of Surrey ; and
in the spring of 1794, when this country was
threatened by both foreign and domestic enemies,
he became Lieut.-Col. of a regiment of Light
Dragoons (fencibles), raised in Surrey (at Rich-
mond) by George Lord Onslow, Lord-Lieut, of
the county, in which he served six years, till the
Government not requiring their services they
were disbanded. Lieut.-Col. Sewell died in 1803,
and was buried in the church at Chobham, where
there is a monument to his memory. Of his
family we have no farther knowledge than that
he had a son, Thos. Bermingham Heath Sewell,
who was a cornet in the 32nd Light Dragoons,
and lieutenant in the 4th Dragoon Guards during
the war of the French Revolution. The History
and Antiquities of Surrey, by the Rev. Owen
Manning and Wm. Bray, in three vols, folio, 1804,
has in the third volume much concerning the
Sewell family. D. N.
PharaoKs Ring (Vol. viii., p. 416.). — The men»
tion of the ring conferred on, or confided to,
Joseph by the Pharaoh of Egypt, as stated in
Genesis xli. 42., reminds me of a ring being
shown to me some years ago, which was believed
by its then possessor to be the identical ring, or at
all events a signet ring of the very Pharaoh who
promoted Joseph to the chief office m his kingdom.
It was a ring of pure gold, running through a
hole in a massive wedge of gold, about the size, as
far as I recollect, of a moderate-sized walnut. On
one of its faces was cut the hieroglyphic (inclosed
as usual with the names of Egyptian kings in an
oval), as I was assured, of the king, the friend of
Joseph, as was generally supposed by the readers
of hieroglyphics: I pretend to no knowledge of
them myself.
The possessor of the ring, who showed it to me,
was Mr. Sams, one of the Society of Friends, ft
bookseller at Darlington. Since railroads have
522
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 213,
whirled me past that town, I have lost my means
of periodical communication with him. He had,
not long before I saw him last, returned from the
Holy Land, where he assured me he had visited
every spot that could be identified mentioned in
the New Testament. He had also been some time
in Egypt, and had brought home a great quantity
of Egyptian antiquities. The lesser ones he had in
the first floor of a carver and gilder's in Great Queen
Street, between the Freemason's Tavern and
Lincoln's Inn Fields. He was then anxious that
these should be bought for the British Museum,
and I think that at his request I wrote to the Earl
of Aberdeen to mention this, and that the answer
was that there was already so large a collection in
the Museum, that more, as they must most of
them be duplicates, would be of no use.
What has become of them I know not. I was
told that a number of his larger antiquities, stone
and marble, were for some time placed on Waterloo
Bridge, that being a very quiet place, where peo-
ple might view them without interruption. I did
not happen to be in London that season, and there-
fore did not see them. J. Ss.
[The whole of Mr. Sams*s collection of Egyptian
antiquities were bought by Joseph Mayer, Esq , F.S. A.,
of Liverpool, about tviro years ago, to add to his pre-
vious assemblage of similar monuments, and are placed
by him, with a very valuable collection of mediaeval
antiquities, in the Egyptian Museum, 8. Colquitt Street,
Liverpool. The small charge of sixpence for each visit
opens the entire collection to the public ; but it is a
lamentable fact, that the curiosity or patriotism of the
inhabitants does not cover Mr. Mayer's expenses by a
large annual amount]
« Could we with ink," ^c, (Vol. viii., pp. 127. 180.
257. 422.). — Have not those correspondents who
have answered this Query overlooked the con-
cluding verse of the gospel according to St. John,
of which it appears to me that the lines in question
are an amplification without improvement ? Ma-
homet, it is well known, imitated many parts of the
Bible in the Koran. £. G. B.
^^Pojpulus vvlt decipi" (Vol. vii., p. 578.;
Vol. viii., p. 65.). — As an illustration of this
expression the following anecdote is given. When
my father was about thirteen years old, being in
London he was, on one occasion in company with
Dr. Wolcot (Peter Pindar), who, calling him to
him, laid bis hand on his head, and said, " My
little boy, I want you to remember one thing as
long as you live — the people of this world love
to be cheated." Uneda.
Philadelphia.
Red Hair (Vol. vii., p. 616. ; Vol. viii., p. 86.).
— It is frequently stated that the Turks are ad-
mirers of red hair. I have lately met with a
somewhat dilSerent account, namely, that the
Turks consider red-haired persons who are fat as
*' first-rate " people, but those who are lean as the
very reverse. M. £•
Philadelphia.
" Land of Green Ginger " (Vol viii., p. 227.).
— The authority which I am able to afibrd Mb.
Richardson is simply the tradition of the place,
which I had so frequently heard that I could
scarcely doubt the truth of it ; this I intended to
be deduced, when I said I did not recollect that
the local histories gave any derivation, and that it
was the one ^generally received by the inha-
bitants.**
To my mind the solution brought forward by
Mb. Buckton (Vol. viii., p. 303.) carries the
greatest amount of probability with it of any yet
proposed ; and should any of your correspondents
have the opportunity of looking through the un-
fublished history of Hull by the Rev. De la
*ryme, " collected out of all the records, charters,
deeds, mayors* letters, &c. of the said town," and
now placed amongst the Lansdowne MSS. in the
British Museum, I am inclined to think it is Very
likely it would be substantiated.
In Mr. Frost's valuable work on the town,
which by the way proves it to have been " a place
of opulence and note at a period long anterior to
the date assigned to its existence by historians,"
he differs materially from Mb. RicnABBSOK, in
considering that Hollar's plate was "engraved
about the year 1630," not in 1640 as he states.
There is also another which appeared between the
time of Hollar and Gent, in Meisner's LibeUus
novus politicus emhlematicus Civitatum^ published
in 1638, which though not "remarkable for accu-
racy of design," is well worthy of notice. It bears
the title " Hull in Engellandt," and abo the fol-
lowing curious inscriptions, which I copy for the
interest of your readers :
" Career nonnunquam firmum propugnaculuin.
Noctua clausa manet in carcere iirmo ; Insidias volu*
crum vetat cnim cavea.**
" Wann die Eull eingesperret ist,
Schadet ihr nicht der Feinde list,
Der Kefig ist ihr nicht unniitz,
Sondern gibt wieder ihr Feind schiitz.**
These lines refer to a curious engraving on the
left side of the plan, representing an owl impri-
soned in a cage with a quantity of birds about,
endeavouring to assail it. R. W. Elliot.
Clifton.
" / put a spoke in his wheeP (Vol. viii., p. 351.).
— Does not this phrase mean simply interference,
either for good or evil ? I fancy the metaphor is
really derived from putting the bars, or spokes,
into a capstan or some such machine. A number
Nov. 26. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
523
of persons being employed, another puts his spoke
in, and assists or hinders them as he pleases. Can
a stick be considered a spoke before it is put into
its place, in the nave of the wheel at least ? We
often hear the obseryation, ^^Then I put in my
spoke," &c. in the relation of an animated discus-
sion. May I venture to suggest a pun on the
preterite of the verb to speak f
G. William Sktbino.
Pagoda (Vol. viii., p. 401.). — May not the
word pagoda be a corruption of the Sanscrit word
** Bhagovata," sacred ? Bishop op Brechin.
Dundee.
Passage in Virgil (Vol. viii., p. 270.). — On this
part of Johnson's letter, Mr. Croker observes :
" I confess I do not see the object, nor indeed the
meaning, of this allusion."
The allusion is to Eclogue vm. 43. :
** Nunc scio, quid sit Amor : duris in cotibus ilium
Aut Tmarus, aut Rhodope, aut extremi Garamantes,
Nee generis nostri puerum nee sanguinis, edunt.**
As the shepherd in Virgil had found Love to be
not the gentle being he expected, but of a savage
race — "a native of the rocks " — so had Johnson
found a patron to be *' one who looked with un-
concern on a man struggling for life," instead of a
friend to render assistance.
Supposing Johnson's estimate of Lord Chester-
field's conduct to be correct, I cannot help think-
ing the allusion to be eminently happy.
J. Kelwat.
To speak in Lvtestnng (Vol. viii., p. 202.). —
Lutestrings or lustringy is a particular kind of silk,
and so is taffeta; and thus the phrase may be
explained by Shakspeare's Lovers Labour*s Lost,
Act V. Sc. 8. :
** Taffeta phrases, silken terms precise."
Junius intended to ridicule such kind of affectation
by persons who were, or ought to have been, grave
senators. J. Kelwat.
Dog Latin (Vol. viii., p. 218.). — A facetious
friend, alluding particularly to law Latin with its
curious abbreviations, says that it is so called be-
cause it is cur-tailed ! J. Kelwat.
Longevity (Vol. viii., p. 113.). — I recollect
seeing an old sailor in the town of Larne, county
Antrim, Ireland, in the year 1826-27, of the name
of Philip Lake, aged 110, who was said to have
been a cabin boy in Lord Anson's vessel, in one
of his voyages. If any of your correspondents
can furnish the registry of his death it would be
interesting. Fras. Cbosslet.
Mary Simondson, familiarly known as ^^Aunt
Polly," died recently at her cottage near Ship-
pensburg, Pennsylvania, at the advanced age of
126 years. M. E.
Philadelphia.
Definition of a Proverb (Vol. viii., p. 243.). —
C. M. Inglebt inquires tlie source of the follow-
ing definition of a proverb, viz. '^ The wisdom of
many, and the wit of one."
<* To Lord John Russell are we indebted for that
admirable definition of a proverb : * The wisdom,* &c.*'—
See Notes to Rogers's Italy, 1848.
The date is added since, in an edition of 1842 ;
this remark makes no part of the note on the line,
" If but a sinew vibrate," &c. Q. T.
Ireland a bastinadoed Elephant (Vol. viiL,
p. 366.). — I venture to suggest whether this ex-
pression may not be something more than a ball,
as Wi, inclines to call it. If any one will look at
a physical map of Ireland at some little distance, a
very slight exercise of the " mind's eye " will serve
to call up in the %ure of that island the shape of
a creature kneeling and in pain. Lough Foyle
forms the eye ; the coast from Bengore Head to
Benmore Head the nose or snout ; Belfast Lough
the mouth ; the coast below Donaghdee the chin ;
County Wexford the knees. The rest of tlie
outline, according to the imagination of the ob-
server, may assume that of an elephant, or some-
thing, perhaps, "very like a whale." Some
fanciful observation of this kind may have sug-
gested the otherwise unaccountable simile to
Curran. Polonixj»,
Ennui (Vol. vii., p. 478. ; Vol. viii., p. 877.). —
The meaning of tnis admirable word is beat
gleaned from its root, viz. nmt. It is somewhat
equivalent to the Greek icypmn/lou, and signifies the
sense of weariness with doing nothing. It gives
the lie to the dolce far niente : vide Ps. cxxx. 6.,
and Job vii. 3, 4. Ennui is closely allied to our
annoy or annoyance, through noceo, noxa, and their
probable root vox, vv^. It is precisely equivalent
to the Latin tcedium, which may be derived from
tceda, which in the plural means a torch, and
through that word may have a side reference to
night, the tcedarum hor<B : cf. Ps. xci. 5. The sub-
ject is worthy of strict inquiry on the part of com-
parative philologists. C. Mansfield Inglebt.
Birmingham.
BeUe Sauvage (Vol. viii., p. 388.). — Your
Philadelphian correspondent asks whether Blue
Bell, Blue Anchor, &c., are corruptions of some
other emblem, such as that which in London trans-
formed La Belle Sauvage into the BeU Savage.
This is not the fact. The Bell Savage on Lud-
gate Hill was originally kept by one Isabella
Savage. A cotemporary historian, writing of one
of the leaders in a rebellion in the days of Queen
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 21S.
Mary, saya, "He tlien snt down upon
opposite to Bell Savage's Inn."
JA.HE3 'El
Homer Ion.
ffiiforj, o/Ynrh (Vol. vlji., p. 125.). — There is
■a History of York, published in 1785 by Wilson
and Spence, describeil to be an abridgment of
Drake, trhich ia in three Tolumes, and may be a
later edition of tlie esme work to nliich Mk.
Elmot alludes. F. T. M,
He. Cannon Street.
Eitcorn (Vol. viii., p. 38T.). — Tf A. A. knows
the meaning of " this French word " I am a little
surprised at liia Quei'v, Perhaps he m:an3 to ask
why a French word should be used P It probably
was first used at concerts and operas (ancora in
Italian), where the perfurmGrs and even tlie per-
formances were foreign, and so became the fasliion.
Fope says :
" To the same notei thy sons shall hum ot snore,
And all thy yawning daughters cry ciicorr,"
It was not, I think, in uae so early as Sliak-
apeare's time, who makes Bottom anticipate that
"the Duke shall say. Let him roar again, let Lim
roar again," where the jingle of " encore " would
have been obvious. It is somewtiat curious that
where we use the French word encare, the French
audiences use the Latin word " bis." C.
'^ Hauling over the Coah" (Vol.viii., p.l25.).—
This saying I conceive to have arisen from the
custom prevalent in olden times, when every Baron
was supreme in his own castle, of extracting
money from the unfortunate Jews who happened
to fall into his power, by means of torture. The
most usual modas operandi seems to have been
roasUng the victims over a slow fire. Every one
remembers the treatment of Isaac of York by
IVont'de-Bceuf, so vividly described in Sir Walter
Scott's Ivaiihoe. Although the practice has long
been numbered amongst the things that were, the
fact of its Laving once obtaine<l is handed down to
posterity in this saying, as when any one is taken
to task for his shortcomings he is hauled over the
eoaU. Jons F. Stuwsli..
The Words "Cash" and " Moh" (Vol. viii.,
p.386.).— Mb. Fox wis right: mob is not genuine
Endish — teste Dean Swjfd A lady who was
well known to Swift used to say that the greatest
scrape she ever got into with liim was by using
the word mo6. " Why do you say that ? " he
exclaimed in a passion ( " never let me hear you
say that again 1 " " Why, sir," she asked, " what
am I to say?" "The rabble, to be sure," an-
swered be. (Sir W. Scott's Woris of Smift,
vol. ix.) The word appears to have been intro-
duced about the commencement of tlie eighteeat^
century, by a process to which we owe many □tho'
and similar barbnrisms — " beauties introduced to
supply the want of wit, sense, humour, and learn-
ing." In a paper of The Taller, No. 230., mucb
in the spirit, and possibly from the pen, of Swift,
complaint is made of the " abbreviations and eli-
sions " whicb bad recently been introduced, and a
humorous example of them is given. By these,
Che authoi' adds,
" Consonants of most obdurate sound are joined to-
gether without one softening vowel to intervene I and
all this only to make one syllable of two, directly con-
trary to the example of the Greeks and Romant, and
a natural tendency towards relapsing into barbarity.
And this is still more visible in the next refiaement,
which consists in pronouncing the first syllable in a
word that lias many, and dismissing the rest. Thui
we cram one syllable and cut ofT the rest, as the owl
fattened her mice after she had hit oS their legs to pre-
vent their running away; and if ours be the same
reason foi maiming our words, it will certainly answer
the cod. for I am sure no other nation will desire to
I have only to add (see JUachwooiTa JWagaxiae,
vol. ii., 1842) that "mob is mobile."
Cash appears to be from the French ciutte, a
chest, cash. J. W. Thokas.
Dewsbury.
Cash is from the French caiiie, the money-
chest where specie was kept. So caisiier became
" cashier," and specie "casfi."
Mob, Swift tells us (Falite Converiation,JatrtA.^,
is a contraction for mobile.
Cr.Gniciis RusTicus has not, I fear, Johnson's
Dictionary, where both these derivations are
given. C.
Ampers y (Vol, ii., pp. 230. 284. ; Vol. tHL
pasaim). — Mb. Ibglebt may well ask what "and-
per-Be-and" can mean. The fact is, this is itself
a corruption. In old spelling-books, after the
twenty-six letters it was customary to print the
two following symbols with their explanations ;
&o. et cetera. ^
& (per se), and.
Children were taught to read the above "et-
cee, et cetera" and "et-per-se, and." Such, at
least, was the case in a Dublin school, some ninety
years ago, where my informant, now many jeais
deceased, was educated. As nt was not there
pronounced like cee, but like say, there was no
dunner of confounding the two names. In Enr-
landj^where a different pronunciation of the Latin
word prevailed, such confusion would be apt to
occur; and hence, probably, English teachers aab-
stituted and for et; from which, in course of
time, the other corruptions mentioned by Ms.
LowBB were developed. E. H. D. D.
Nov. 26. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
525
The Keate Family, of the Hoo, Herts (Vol. viii.,
p. 293.). — The following account is taken from
^urke*s Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies of Eng^
land^ Lond. 1841 :
** William Keate of Hagbourne, in Berkshire, left
five sons. The second son, Ralph Keate of Whaddon,
in "Wiltshire, married Anne, daughter of John Clarke,
Esq., of Ardington, in Berkshire, and had with other
issue Gilbert Keate, Esq., of London, who married,
first, John, daughter of Nicholas Turbervile, Esq.,
of Crediton, in Devon, and, secondly, Elizabeth,
daughter of William Armstrong, Esq., of Remston,
Notts, and by her had another son, Jonathan Keate,
Esq., of the Hoo, in the county of Hertford, which
estate he acquired with his first wife, Susannah,
daughter of William, and sister and heir of Thomas
Hoo, of the Hoo and Kimpton, both in Hertfordshire.
Mr. Keate was created a baronet by King Charles II.,
12th June, 1660. Sir Jonathan was sheriff of the
county of Hertford, 17 Charles II., and knight of the
same shire in Parliament, in the thirtieth of the same
reign. By his first wife he had issue, Gilbert Hoo,
his heir, Jonathan, Susan, Elizabeth : all died sine
prole. He married, secondly, Susanna, daughter of
John Orlebar, citizen of London, but by her had no
issue. He died 17th September, 1700. The baronetcy
became extinct in the person of Sir William Keate,
D. D., who died 6th March, 1757."
*A\i€(;s.
Hour-glasses (Vol. viii., p. 454.). — In the
church of Wiggenhall, St. Mary the Virgin, the
iron frame of an hour-glass, affixed to a wooden
stand, immediately opposite the pulpit, still re-
mains. W. B. D.
An iron hour-glass stand still remains near the
pulpit in the church of Ashby-Folville, in this
county (Leicester). It is fixed to the wall con-
taining the staircase to the rood-loft.
In the old church of Anstej, recently pulled
down and rebuilt, was an ancient hour-glass
stand, consisting of a pillar of oak, about four
feet high, the top of which is surmounted by a
light framework of wood for the reception of the
hour-glass. This specimen is preserved in the
museum of this town. William Kelly.
Marriage of Cousins (Vol. viii., p. 387.). —
If there is any foundation for such a statement as
is contained in the Query of J. P. relative to the
marriage of cousins, it consists rather in the
marriage of first cousins once removed than of
second cousins. It will be seen that the latter
relationship belongs to the same generation, but
it is not so with the former, which partakes more
of the nature of uncle and aunt with nephew and
niece. W. Sloane Sloane-Evans.
Cornworthy Vicarage, Totnes,
There is no legal foundation for the statement
that marriage with a second cousin is valid, and
with a first cousin invalid. The following quota-
tion from Burn's Ecc. Law by Fhill., vol. ii. p. 449.,
will probably be considered to explain the matter :
" By the civil law first cousins are allowed to marry,
but by the canon law both first and second cousins (in
order to make dispensations more frequent and neces-
sary) are prohibited ; therefore, when it is vulgarly
said that first cousins may marry, but second cousins
cannot, probably this arose by confounding these two
laws, for first cousins may marry by the civil law, and
second cousins cannot by the canon law.*'
J. G.
Exon.
Waugh, Bishop of Carlisle (Vol. viii., p. 271.),
was the son of Thomas and Margaret Waugb,
of Appleby, in Westmoreland; born there 2nd
February, 1655 ; educated at Appleby school ;
matriculated at Queen's College, Oxford, 4th
of April, 1679 ; took his degree of M. A. the 7th
of July, 1687 ; and elected Fellow on the 18th
of January following. He married Elizabeth,
widow of the Eev. Mr. Fiddes, rector of Bride-
well, in Oxford, who was the only surviving child
of John Machen, Esq., of , in the county
of Oxford, by whoin he left a son, John Waugh,
afterwards chancellor of the diocese of Carlisle.
Kableoleksis.
Marriage Service (Vol. viii., p. 150.). — I have
been many years in holy orders, and have always
received the fee together with the ring on the
Prayer Book, as directed in the Rubric. The
ring I return to the bridegroom to place upon the
bride's finger ; the fee (or offering) I deposit in
the offertory basin, held for that purpose by the
clerk, and on going to the chancel (the marriage
taking place in the body of the church) lay it on
the altar. Note. — In the parish in which I first
ministered, the marriages had always been com-
menced in the body of the church, as directed ;
in the second parisu in which I ministered, that
custom had only been broken by the present in-
cumbent a few years since. A Bectob.
I have seen the Bubric carried out in this parti-
cular, in St. Mary's Church, Kidderminster,
C^UTHBEBT BeDE, B.A.
Hohy, Family of (Vol. viii., p. 243.). — In
answer to Mr. J. B. "VVniTBOBNE, I beg to state
that the Bev. Sir Philip Hoby, Baronet, was in
the early part of the last century chancellor of
the archdiocese of Dublin. He was an intimate
friend of Archbishop Cobbe, and there is a picture
of him in canonicals at Newbridge, co. Dublin.
T. C.
Cambridge Graduates (Vol. viii., p. 365.). —
Your correspondent will find a list of B.A.'s of
Cambridge University from the years 1500 to
1717 in Add. MS. 5885., British Museum.
Glaius.
526
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 21a.
** I own I like not^* fpc. (Vol. viii., p. 866.). —
The lines —
* I own I like not Johnson's turgid style,** &c.
are by Peter Pindar, whose works I have not,
and so cannot give an exact reference. The
extract containing them will be found in Chambers*
CjfcloptBcUa o/£nglish Literature^ vol. ii. p. 298.
P. J. F. Gantuxon, B.A.
*\Topsy Turvy'' (Vol. viii., p. 385.).— This is
ludicrously derived, in Roland Cashel^ p. 104.,
from top side V other way,
P. J. F. Ganttllon, B.A.
" When the Maggot bites " (Vol. viii., pp. 244.
804. 353.). — Another illustration of this phrase
may be found in Swift (Introduction to Tcie of a
Tub):
" The two principal qualifications (says he) of a
fiinatic preacher are, his inward light, and his head full
of maggots ; and the two different fates of his writings
are to be burnt or worm-eaten."
The word maggot is sometimes used for the
whim or crotchet itself; thus Butler :
" To reconcile our late dissenters,
Our brethren though by different venters ;
Unite them and their different maggots.
As long and short sticks arc in faggots."
Hudibrcu, part iii. canto 2.
So also it is used by Samuel Wesley (father of
the founder of the Methodists) in his rare and
&ce<aous volume entitled Maggots^ or Poems on
several Subjects never before handled, 12mo., 1685.
William Bates.
Birmingham.
'\Salus popuH;' ^c. (Vol. viii., p. 410.). — The
saying " Salus populi suprema lex " is borrowed
from the model law of Cicero, in his treatise de
Legibus, in. 3. It is made one of the duties of the
consuls, the supreme magistrates, to regard the
safety of the state as their highest rule of conduct :
** Regio imperio duo sunto ; iique pneeundo, judi-
cando, consulendo Praetores, Judices, Consules appel-
lantor. Militlae summum jus habento, uemini parento :
oUis salus populi suprema lex esto.''
The allusion appears to be to the formula used
by the senate for conferring supreme power on
the consuls in cases of emergency : " Dare operam,
ne quid respublica detrimenti caperet." (See
Sallust, Bell. Cat. c. 29.) L.
Aristotle regards the safety of the citizens as
the great end of law (see his Ethics^ b. i. ch. 4.) ;
and Cicero (de Finibus, lib. ii. c. 5.) lays down a
similar principle. B. H. C.
Theodoro Paleologus (Vol. viii., p. 408.). —The
inscription referred to was printed m Archaologia,
vol. xviii., and with some account of the Paleoloffi
to which a Querist was relerred in ** N. & Q^**
Vol. v., p. 280. (see also pp. 173. 357.). It k
astonishing how much will be found in that
" Californian mine," if the most excellent indices
of the several volumes are only consulted. Your
correspondent could in the present case have
pointed out the errors of the inscription already
m print had the indices to " N. & Q." attracted
him. J*
Worm in Boohs (Vol. viii., p. 4 12.). — In reply
to Alethes I beg to acquaint him that I have
tried various means for destroying the worm in
old books and MSS., and the most effectual has
been the chips of Russia leather ; indeed, in but
one instance have I known them fail.
Newbukiensis.
The Porter Famify (Vol. viii., p. 364.).—!. The
reason of the word Agincourt bemg placed above
the inscription in Bristol Cathedral is, that the
Porter family were descendants of Sir WilUam
Porter who fought at Agincourt.
2. Charles Lempriere Porter was the son of
Dr. Porter.
3. This family was descended from Endymioa
Porter of classic and loyal memory.* J. R. W» '
Bristol.
Buckle (Vol. viii., p. 304.). — This wwrd is in
common use by the artizans who work upon sheet-
iron, to denote the curl which a sheet of iron
acquires in passing through a pair of rollers. The
word has been derived from the French boucUy a
curl. The shoe-buckle has got its name from its
curved form. In the days in which every man in
this country, who was in easy circumstances, wore
a wig, it was well known Uiat to put a wig itt
buchlcy meant to arrange its curls in due form.
** When Hopkins dies, a thousand lights attend
Tlie wretch, who living sav*d a candle's end :
Shouldering God's altar a vile image stands.
Belies his features, nay, extends his hands ;
That live-long wig which Gorgon's self might own.
Eternal buckle takes in Parian stone.'*
Pope, Moral Essays, Epistle lu.
N. W. S.
The ''Forlorn Hope'' (Vol. viii., p. 411.), —.
This is no quotation ; but the expression arose in
the army from its leader or captain, who, being
often a disappointed man, or one indifferent to
consequences, now ran the " forlorn hope " either
of ending his days or obtaining a tomb in West*
minster Abbey. From the captain, after a time,
the term descended to all the little gallant band.
In no part of our community will you find such
[* The biographical notices of Endymion Porter are
extremely scanty. Can our correspondent furnish any
particulars respecting him? — Ed.]
Not. 26. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIEa
527
meaning expressions (often very siang ones) used
as in the army. A lady, without hearing anything
to shock " ears polJte," might listen to the talk of
a mess table, and be unable to understand clearly
in what the conversation consisted. " He is gone
to the bad " — meaning, he is ruined. " A wig-
ging from the office" (a very favourite expression)
— a reprimand from the colonel. "Wigging**
naturally arising from tearing the hair in anger
or sorrow, and the office of course substituting
the place from whence it comes for the person who
sent it. Besides many others, quce nunc, &c.
A DSAGOOK.
Nightingale and Thorn (Vol. iv., p. 175., &c.). —
«* If I had but a pottle of sack, like a sharp prickle,
To knock my nose against when I am nodding,
I should sing like a nightingale.'*
Fletcher, The Lover* s P^ressy Act III. So. 2.
W. J. Bernhabd Smith.
Temple.
Burial in Unconsecrated Ground (Vol. vi.,
p. 448. ; Vol. yiii., p. 43.).— The following curious
entry occurs in the parish register of Pimperne,
Dorset :
" Anno 1627. Vicesimo quinto Octobris.
** Peregrinus quldam tempore pestes in communi
campo mortuus eodem loco quo inventus sepultus."
There was a pestilence in England in 1625. In
1628 sixteen thousand persons died of the plague
at Lyons. W. E.
I do not know whether the case recorded in
London Labour and the London Poor, vol. i.
p. 411. — by the way, is that work ever to be
completed, and how far has it gone ? — of a man
buried at the top of a house at Foot's Cray, in
Kent, has been noticed by any correspondent.
P. J. F. Gantillon, B. a.
Sangaree (Vol. iii., p. 141.). — I take it that
the word ought to be spelled sansgris, being de-
rived from the French words sans, without, and
gris, tipsy, meaning a beverage that woidd not
make tipsy. I have been a good deal in the
French island of Martinique, and they use the
term frequently in this sense as applied to a be-
verage made of white wine (" Vin de Grave *'),
syrup, water, and nutmeg, with a small piece of
fresh lime-skin hanging over the edge of the glass.
A native of Martinique gave me this as the de-
rivation of the word. The beverage ought not to
be stirred after the nutmeg is put in it, as the fas-
tidious say it would spoil the flavour. T. B.
Point of Etiquette (Vol. viii., p. 386.).— The
title Miss, without the Christian name, belongs to
the eldest unmarried daughter of the representa-
tive of the family only. If he have lost his own
children, his brother is heir presumptive merely to
the family honours ; and can neither aflflume nor
give to his daughter the titles to which they are
only expectants. The matter becomes evident, if
you test the rule by a peerage instead of a squirage.
Even the eldest daughter of a baronet or landed
gentleman loses her title of Miss, when her bro-
ther succeeds to the representation, provided he
have a daughter to claim the title. P. P.
Etymology of^' Monk** and « TiT?," ^c. (Vol. vin.,
pp.291. 409.). — Will you allow me one word on
these two cases? Monk is manifestly a Greek
formative from /lovos, and denotes a solitaire.
The proposed derivation of tiU, from to-whiU, is
not new ; but still clearly mistaken, inasmuch as
the word tiU is found in Scotch, Swedish, Nor-
wegian, Danish, and others of the family. A word
thus compounded would be of less general use.
Besides which, tO'WhUe would scarcely produce
such a form as till; it would rather change the
t into an aspirate, which would appear as th,
B. H. C.
Forrell (Vol. vii., p. 630.). — Your correspon-
dent T. Hughes derives this word (applied in
Devonshire, as he tells us, to the cover of a book)
from forrell, "a term still used by the trade to
signify an inferior kind of vellum." Is it not
more natural to suppose it to be the same word
which the French have made ybMrrtfou, a cover or
sheath ? (See Du Cange, vy. Forellus, ForreUusJ)
J. H. T.
Dublin.
Parochial Libraries (Vol. vii., p. 507. ; Vol. viii.
passim"), — There is a library at Wimbome Min-
ster, in the Collegiate Church, which, on my visit
two years since, appeared to contain some valu-
able volumes, and was neglected and in very bad
condition. B.
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and Astronomy, The subjects treated of in the present
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illustrated with thirty-seven lithographic plates, and
upwards of two hundred engravings on wood. The
work was undertaken with the very popular object of
supplying the means of acquiring a competent know-
ledge of the methods and results of the physical
sciences, without any unusual acquaintance with ma-
thematics ; and in the methods of demonstration and
illustration of this series of treatises, that principle has*
as far as possible, been adopted ; so that by means of
the present volumes, persons who have not even a su-
perficial knowledge of geometry and algebra may yet
acquire with great facility a considerable acquaintance
with the sciences of which they treat. The present
volume contains a very elaborate index, which, com-
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Peter Brett -------
Richard's " Guide tlirougli France," by Weld Taylor -
"Women and Tortoises - - - - -
Weatlier Rules, by W. Winthrop - . -
Occasional Forms of Prayer, by Rev. Thomas Lathbury
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Epitaph in Torrington Churchyard, Devon — The
early Delights of Philadelphia — Misapplication of
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Painting —Peter Allan — Haschisch or Indian Hemp
Crieff Compensation — Admission to Lincoln's Inn,
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Portrait of Lee, Inventor of the Stocking-frame —
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FETEB BRETT.
Vol. VIIL — No. 214.
Your correspondent T. K. seems to think that
Scotchmen, and Scotch subjects, have an undue
prominence in " N. & Q. : " let me therefore in-
troduce to your readers a neglected Irishman^ in
the person of Peter Brett, the " parish clerk and
schoolmaster of Castle-Knock." This worthy seems
to, have been a great author, and the literary
oracle of the district over which he presided, and
exercised the above-named important functions.
His magnum opus appears to have been his Mis'-
cellany ; a farrago of prose and verse, which, to
distinguish it from the herd of books bearing that
title, is yclept, par excellence^ Brett's Miscellany,
When Mr. Brett commenced to enlighten the
world, and when his candle was snuflSd out, I
know not. My volume of the above work pur-
ports to be the fifth :
" Containing above a hundred useful and entertain-
ing Particulars, Divine, Moral, and Historical ; chiefly
designed for the Improvement of Youth, and those who
have not the Opportunity of reading large Volumes,
Interspersed with several Entertaining Things never
before printed. Dublin, 1762."
The parish clerk's hill of fares is of the most
seductive kind. Under all the above heads he
has something spicy to say, either in prose or
verse ; but the marrow of the book lies in the
Preface. To say that a man, holding the import-
ant ofBces of parish clerk and schoolmaster, could
be charged with conceit, would be somewhat rash ;
if, therefore, in remarking upon the rare instance
of a parish clerk becoming an author, he lets out
that " whatever cavillers may say about his per-
formance, they must admit his extensive reading,
and the great labour and application the concoc-
tion of these books has cost him," he is but in-
dulging in a feeling natural to a man of genius,
and a pardonable ebullition of the amour jyropre,
Mr. Brett seems to have been twitted with the
charge of taking up authorship as a commercial
spec; he sullenly admits that his book-making
leaves him something, but nothing like a recom-
pense, and draws an invidious comparison be-
tween one Counsellor Harris and himself; the
534
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[No. 214.
former having received 200^. per annum for col-
lecting materials for the Life of King William III.,
while he, the schoolmaster of Castle-Knock,
scarcely gets salt to his porri<1ge for his Collectiowt
and Observations for perpettuiting the Honour and
Glory of the King of Kings.
Peter farther boasts that these his volumes
" Contain the juice and marrow of many excellent
and learned authors, but compacttd after such an
ingenious manner, that the learned would find it a
great difficulty to show in what authors they are to be
found!*'
A plan for which, I think, the learned would award
him the birch. Mrs. Brett is no less a genius than
her husband ; and she takes advantage of the
publication of the MisceUany, to stick the follow-
ing little bill upon the back of the title
" Ann Hrett, wife of the said Peter, at the sign of
the Shroud in Christ Church Lane, opposite to the
Church, makes and sells all Sorts of Shrouds, draws
all Sorts of Patterns, does all manner of Pinking, and
teaches Young Misses Reading and Writing, Arith-
metic, and Plain Work. The Dublin Society," she
adds, " was pleased to honour her wiih a handsome
Present for her Curious Performance with the Pen.'*
J.O.
BICHARD^S "guide THROUGH FRANCE."
(Translated from the French on the 12th edition.
I'aris : Audin, 25. Qua! des Augustins.)
As we are not supposed to be sensible of our
own failings, I should much wish to know whether
any Engli^h-Fi*ench exists equal to some French-
English I know of, and inclose a specimen. Mb.
P. Chasles has played the critic so well with the
English tongue, that perhaps he can find us a few
specimens. Without doubt, it will be a wholesome
correction to the Malaprop spirit if she is shown
up a little ; and I regret extremely that Mr. P.
Chasles whs not invited to correct the proofs of
the Itineraire de France, Here we are posting
with M. Bichard :
"The courier k franc-etrier cannot use bridle of
their own, they must not outrun the postilion who
leads them, and the post master if they might arrive at,
without their postillion, must not give them horse
before this last is come. The supply-horses, according
to the number of persons, shall be put to carriages as
much as the disposition of the vehicles will admit.
For example, three horses shall be put to cabriolets,
and till six to the berline, but as it should not be pos-
sible, to put a horse en arbalete (cross-bow) without
notable accidents, either to caleches with two horses or
to the limonieres; they shall be obliged to pay the
charge fur supply horse.**
Here we are in a steamer, p. 52. :
'* The sea is smooth, the sky pure, the air calm,
everything promises a happy navigation, our boat is in
a very favourable position in the middle of the Seine,
on the right hand the hills of Honfleur, on the left the
coast of Ingouville, let us pause a little more on these
shores we are going to leave : behold on the east the
fortifications of Havre, small seats! clusters of trees!
this is the village of TEure threatened by the sea of an
entire destruction. We must not pass over this green
hill so delightful to #iew, standing on the opposite
shore seamen would not forgive my silence, among
these higii trees stands a chapel dedicated to Notre-
Dame-de- Grace. Ingouville is of 4,800 inhabitants,
among which a great many Englishmen live there as
in their own country, having their particular diurcfa-
yard, physicians, and many occasions of hearing from
England, which they can perceive from their pavilions.
The traveller can go to Elbeuf by land or water. The
lover of the scenes of nature will enjoy very romantical
prospects, a new kind of view will strike liis sight, a
long train of rocks called D*Orival, the noost part steep,
covered with evergreen trees, which seem shoc^ out,
with difficulty, of their craggings.**
He tells us Soissons (p. 102.) ** has a college, 8
pretty theatre, and a bishoprick-sec, from the
cradle of Christianity into the Gauls.** At Cou-
lommieres (Seine et Marne), " the sciences are not
cultivated, but the inhabitants know pretty wdl
how to play at nine pins." At Fontaines les Cor-
nues, *Hhe inhabitants of Paris with a small ex-
pense can procure to himself a scenery scarecely to
be found in the other quarter of the globe ! ** At
Chntillion-sur-Seine, 'Hhe streets are neat and
well aired.'* At Aries, p. 361., a head of a goddess
carved in marble :
" The way in which the neck and left shoulder are
ended, points out that the head is related to a Bgure in
drapery cut in another block.**
" The merchant of Bordeaux is distnigaisfaed by his
noble easy and pompous manner, be makes himself
easily forgiven a sort of boasting, which is' the foible d
the country."
How the ladies bathe at Mont d*Or, p. 218. :
" At five in the morning bathing begins. Two
hardy Highlanders go and fetch in a kind of deal
boxes the fashionable lady, who when in towu never
quits her bed-do%vn before noon, the annuitant, the rich
man, are all brought in the same manner io these
boxes. It is one of the most pleasant bathing esta-
blishments ; it offers a peristyle, a small resting-room,
a warming-place for linen, with partitions to prevent
its mixture.**
The work consists of 446 mortal pa^es, though
I am bound to sny a portion here and there is re-
spectably written. Wbij> Tatiab.
WOMEN AND TOKTOKSBS.
I had intended sending you a paper on Bi8h(q[>
Taiylor*s Similes^ with Illustrative Notes on some
Passages In his Works; but I soon found that your
utmost indulgence could not afibrd me a titae of
Dec. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIE&
636
the space I would require. Instead, therefore, I
send you an illustration of a single simile, as it is
short, and not the least curious in the lot :
** All vertuous womenf like tortoises^ carry their house
on their heads, and their chappel in their heart, and
their danger in their eye, and their souls in their hands,
and God in all their actions." — Life of Christy Fart I.
8. ii. 4. »
** Phidias made the statue of Venus at Elis with one
foot upon the shell of a tortoise, to signify two great
duties of a virtuous woman, which are to keep home
and be silent." — Human Prudence, by W. De Britaine,
12th edit.: Dublin, 1726, 12mo., p. 134.
" Vertuous women should keep house ; and 'twas
well performed and ordered by the Greeks :
' . . . muHer ne qua in publicum
Spectandam se sine arbitro praebeat viro : '
Which made Phidias, belike, at Elis paint Venus
treading on a tortoise : a symbole of women's silence
and housekeeping ... 1 know not what philosopher he
was, thctt would have women come but thrice abroad
all their time, to be baptized, married, and buried; but
he was too straitlaced. " — Burton's ^na/. MeL, part iii.
sec. 3. mem. 4. subs. 2.
** jlpelles us'd to paint a good housewife upon a snagi;
which intimated that she should be as slow from gad-
ding abroad, and when she went she shold carry her
bouse upon her back : that b, she shold make all sure
at home. Now, to a good house ivife, her house shold
be as the sphere to a star (I do not mean a wandring
star), wherin she shold twinckle as a star in its orb."
— Howell's Parlg of Beauts : Lond. 1660, p. 58.
The last passage reminds us of the fine lines of
Donne (addressed to both sexes) :
** Be then thine own home, and in thyself dwell ;
Inn anywhere ;
And seeing the snail, which everywhere doth roam,
Carrying his own home still, still is at home,
Follow (for he is easy-paced) this snaU :
Be thine own palace, or the world's thy jail."
Ekbionnach.
WEATHEB RULES.
(Vol. vii., pp. 373. 522. 699. 627.)
J. A., Jun., being desirous of forming a list of
weather rules, I send the following, in the hope
that they may be acceptable to him, and interest- '
ing to those of your readers who have never met
with the old collection from which they are taken.
English.
In April, Dove's-flood is worth a king's good.
Winter thunder, a summer's wonder.
Unroll dust is worth a king's ransom.
A cold May and a windy, makes a fat barn and
findy.
Spanish,
April and May, the keys of the year.
A cold April, much bread and little wine.
A year of snow, a year of plenty.
A red morning, wind or rain.
The moon with a circle brings water in her beafi:..
Bearded frost, forerunner of snow.
Neither give credit to a clear winter nor cloiidy
spring.
Clouds above, water below.
When the moon is in the wane do not sow anything.
A red sun has water in his eye.
Red clouds in the east, rain the next day.
An eastern wind carrieth water in his hand.
A March sun sticks like a lock of wool.
When there is a spring in winter, and a winter in
spring, the year is never good.
When it rains in August, it rains wine or honey.
The circle of the moon never filled a pond, but the
circle of the sun wets a shepherd.
Italian,
Like a March sun, which heats but doth not melt^
Dearth under water, bread under snow.
Young and old must go warm at Martlemas.
When the cock drinks in summer, it will rain a
little after.
As Mars hasteneth all the humours feel it.
In August, neither ask for olives, chesnuts, nor
acorns.
January commits the fault, and May bears the
blame.
A year of snow, a year of plenty.
French,
When it thunders in March, we may cry Alas X
A dry year never beggars the master.
An evening red, and a morning grey, makes a pil-
grim sing.
January or February do fill or empty the granary.
A dry March, a snowy February, a moist Apru,
and a dry May, presage a good year.
To St. Valentine the spring is a neighbour.
At St. Martin's winter is in his way.
A cold January, a feverish February, a dustj
March, a weeping April, a windy May, presage
a good year and gay. W. WiNTHMxr*.
Malta.
OCCASIONAL FORMS OF PBAYEB.
I now send you a list of Occasional Forms of
Prnyer in my own possession, in the hope that the
example may be followed by other individuals.
A Fourme to be used in Common Prayer twise a
Weke, and also an Order of Publique Fast to ba
u<ied every Wednesday, &c. during this time «f
Morulitie, &c. London, 1563.
This was the first published occasional form of tiie
reign of Elizabeth.
NOTES AND QUERTEa
[No. 214.
know that a very ancieot golden collar wm lately
i<]und in the village of Stanton, StsfTuribfaire,
which u about thiee miles DOrtb of Ashbourne.
A labourer digging up a field, which had not
the time, sprang up, and the labourer taking li for
A anake, struck it out of hia way wiih his spade :
the next morning it was discovered not tu be a
anake. Unfortunatelv tbe blow had broken off a
small piece at one end. The collar is now in the
possession of the person with whom the curate of
StAnton lodges. The description given to me Is,
that it is about two feet long, and formed of three
piAcea of gold t it ined together, and, with the above
ezceptiuQ, in a very good state of preservation.
I bear that there ia a similar collar in the
British Museum, that was found in Ireland, but
none that was found in England; and that the au-
thoritlea of the Museum have been informed of
this collar, but have taken no steps to obtain pc
■esaiou of it. "^ '*
!. 6. C.
[Our correspondent is under an erroneous impression
veral are figured in the Archaotogin, and we have lonie
reason to believe Ibal the torque now d«cribed, and of
tioulars, resembles one which formed part of the cele-
brated Polden find described by Mr. Harford in (he
fburteenlh volume of the Archaologia, ond Dgured at
p. 90. \ and alto that found at Boyton in Suffolk in
IBM, and engraved in the ^rc*ao/(««i, vol. mi. p. 471.
-E..1
in 179B ; and it baa been supposed the Hkeneso of
the Duke of York was the best taken of that
Prince. Could any reader inform me on what daj
this review took place P*
When one sees a picture of Sbakspeare, No. 276.,
and more especially in tbe palace of his i:otem-
pornry Sovereigns, one is naturally led to inquire
into its authenticity. I am therefore desirous to
obtain some Information relative to it.
In "N. &Q.," Vol. vi., p. 197,, you had several
correspondents inquiring concerning the custom of
royalty dining In public ; perhaps it may interest
Iheni to know that there are two very attractive
Eictures of this ceremony in this collection, num-
ered 293 and 234 : the first is of Charles I. and
Henrietta Maria; the other Frederick V., Count
Palatine and King of Boheinla, who married Eliza-
betb, daughter of James I. These two pictures
are by Van Bassen, of whom, perhaps, some cor-
respondent may be enabled to give an account
*,
Richmond, Surrey.
There are two or three of these concerning
which I should be obliged to any reader of your
fmblication who would satisfy my Queries.
No. 119., " The Battle of Forty," by P. Snayers.
"ITiis seems a kind of combat a oatraitee of kntghts
4traief de pied en cap. Where cau I find any ac-
count or det.iil of it P
No. 314., "Mary of Lorraine, mother of Mary
<Jueen of Scots." This is a very pleasing picture,
in good preservation, and as it was not in its
present position two years ago, I conclude it bas
recently been added. She was ninth child of
Claude de Lorraine, firtt Due de Guise, born in
1515, and married in 1538 to James V. of Scot-
land, and she died in the forty-fifth year of her
age, 10th Juno, 1560. There are the arms of the
Guise family in the right-hand corner, with a date
of 1611. Pray by whom was it painted, and where
can 1 find any notices respecting it P
No. 166., '■ George III. reviewing the lOth
Light Dragoons, commanded by tiie Prince of
Wales." This picture was considered the chef
itieuBre of Sir William Beechej, and wns painted
^inar &vnitt.
Helmets. — VHiat is the antiquity of the prac-
tice of placing helmets over the shields of armorial
bearings ; and what are tbe varieties of helmets in
regard to the rank or degree of persons? S. N^.
The JVursroui.— What is the origin of the word
Ifur.trow, a name applied by Plott, in his Biitory of
Staffbrdihire, to the shrew mouse, and by the com-
mon people in Cheshire at the present day to the
field-mouse ; or rather, perhaps, indiscriminately
to field and shreiv mice P If. R.
Cily Bellmen, — When were city bellmen first
established P By whom appointed ? What were
their duties P What and how were ihey paid P
What have 1>een their employment and duUes
down to the present day P Crito,
* George III. had one or two copies of Ibis plo-
ture taken for him j and Ihere is a curious circumstance
relative to one of these, which Lady Chatterton men-
fivns in ber Homi SMchti, published In three vols.
8vo., 1B4! : "In one respect ihe picture (which
George III, gave to Lord Sidmoutti, and which the
latter lind put up at the slone lodge in Richmond New
Park) dilTeri from Ihc original at Hampton Court ; it
is lingular enough thai in this copy tbe figure of the
Prince is omitted, which unt dwi 6y tki King's dtiire,
and is a sirikingand rather comical proof of Iha dislike
which he felt towards his son. When Ihe Prince be-
came King, he dined here, and remarked lo Lord Sid.
moulh that his portrait had been omitled, and hinted
thai it ought 10 be restored. This, however, was
evaded, and Ihe eopv remains in its originil stale." —
Vol. i. pp. 18, 19.
Dec. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
53r
A Form of Prayer with Thanksgiving, to be used on
the 29th of May, 1661.
The original edition. It differs from that which
was sanctioned by Convocation and published in 1662.
Form of Prayer, &c. June 12. Fast during a Dearth.
1661.
Form, &c. Fast during a Sickness. 1661.
Form, &c. Fast, to implore a Blessing on the Naval
Forces. April 5, 1665.
Form, &c. Thanksgiving for Victory by Naval Forces.
July 4, 1665.
Form, &c. Fast, on occasion of the Fire of London,
1666.
Form, &c. Thanksgiving for Victories at Sea. 1666.
Form, &c. Fast. 1674.
Form, &c. Fast. 1678.
Form, &c. Fast. Dublin, 1678.
Form, &c. Fast. Dublin, 1679. To seek Reconcili-
ation with God, and to implore Him that he would
infatuate and defeat the Counsels of the Papists our
Enemies. By the Lord Lieutenant.
Form, &c. Fast. 1680.
Form,&c. Thanksgiving. 1683. For the discovery of
Treason.
Form, &c. Thanksgiving. 1685.
Form of Prayer with Thanksgiving for 29th May,
1685.
First edition of this reign. It was altered by the
authority of the Crown.
Form of Prayer, &c. January 30, 1685.
First edition of this reign.
Form of Prayer, &c. February 6, 1685.
The accession service of James II.
A Form or Order of Thanksgiving, to be used, &c,
in behalf of the King, the Queen, and the Koyal
Family, upon occasion of the Queen's being with
Child. 1687.
This form was the occasion of much comment at the
time.
A Form of Prayer with Thanksgiving, &c., for the
Birth of the Prince. 1688.
A Form, &c. Fast. 1689.
A Form, &c. Fast. 1690.
A Form, &c. Fast. 1694.
A Form, &c. Fast. 1714. Thanksgiving on the Ac-
cession of George I.
Thomas Lathbuey.
Bristol.
Chaw Moving. — Recent occurrences made me
look back at GlanvilFs Blow at Modern Sadducism,
and I observed that in his account of the " Dasmon
of Tedworth," who was supposed to haunt the
house of Mr. Mompcsson, and who was the original
of Addison's " drummer," it is stated that on the
5th November, 1662, "in the sight and presence
of the company, the chairs walked about the
room," p. 124. N. B.
Epitaph on Politian in the Church of the Anmm»
ciation at Florence* —
" Politianus in hoc tumulo jacet Angelus, unum
Qui caput, et linguas (res nova) tres habuit.**
From Travels of Sir John Reresby.
Y. B. N. J.
[The following translation of this epitaph is given in
the Ency. Britannica, but it is there stated to be in
St. Mark's, Florence :
" Here lies Politian, who, things strange indeed.
Had, when alive, three tongues, and but one head.**]
Epitaph in Torrington Churchyard^ Devon, —
«
She was — my words are wanting to say what. "
Think what a woman should be — she was that.*
If
Which provoked the following reply :
" A woman should be both a wife and mother,
But Jenny Jones was neither one nor t'other.*
Baxliolensis.
Hie early Delights of Philadelphia. — In Gabriel
Tliomas's Description of the Settlement of Phila^
delphia occurs the following passage :
*^ In the said city are several good schools of learning
for youth, for the attainment of arts and sciences, also
reading and writing. Here is to be h^d, on any day
in the week, cakes, tarts, and pies ; we have also
several cook-shops, both roasting and boiling, as in
the city of London : happy blessings, for which we
owe the highest gratitude to our plentiful Provider,
the great Creator of heaven and earth,"
Is not this a superb jumble ? A Leguleian.
Misapplication of Terms. — Legend is a thing
"to be read" (legendum"), but it is often impro-
perly applied to traditions and oral communica-
tions. Of this there have been some instances
in "N. & Q." One has just turned up, Vol. v.,
p. 196.: " I send you these legends as I have heard
them from the lips of my nurse, a native of the
parish." J. W. Thomas.
Dewsbury.
''Plantin'' Bibles in 1600. — While looking?
over the " Stackhouse Library ** (see " N. & Q.,"
Vol. viii., p. 327.), I observed on the fly-leaf of an
Hebrew Bible, 1600 (a. 100 in catalogue), a short
MS. memorandum, which I think worth pre-
serving. It ran as follows :
£ s, d.
" Plantin Heb. Bible, interlineing costes - 2 10 O
Plantin in octavo - - -10 0
Buxtorf's Biblia in two vols. - - 2 10 O
Hebw Bible, 4to. 2 vols. - -200
Inne 16° 8 vols. - - .2 0 0**
R. C. TVaebe.
Kidderminster.
Ancient Gold Collar found in Staffordshire, —
It may probably interest some of your readers to
S38
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 214
know that a very ancient golden collar was lately
found in the village of Stanton, Stattunlehire,
which ii about three milea north of Ashbourne.
A labourer digging up a field, which had not
been ploughed or dug up in the niemorv of man,
turned up the collar, wnidi, being curled up at
the time, sprang up, and the labourer tuking it for
« anake, struck it out of liis way with Lis spade :
the next uiorning it was discovered not to be a
snske. Unfortunately the blow had broken off a
small piece at one end. The collar is now in the
possession uf the person with whom the curate of
Stanton lodges. The description given to me is,
that it is about two feet lung, and formed of three
pieces of gold twined together, and, with the above
etceptiou, in a very good state of preservation.
I uear that there is a similar collar in the
British Museum, that was found in Ireland, but
none that was found in England; and (hat the au-
thorities of the Museum have been informed of
this collar, but have taken no Bl«ps (o obtain pos-
[Our vorrespondcat is under an erroneous impreision
aa to gold toiijues not being found in Eni^lund. Se-
veral are figured in tlie Archaalogia, and we have aome
reason to believe that the torque now described, and of
tieulirs, resembles one which formed part of the cele-
brated Polden find described b; Mr. Harrord in the
fburteenth lolume of tlie Architoliyia, and figured at
p. 90. ; and also that found at Boyton in Suffolk in
1835, and engraved in the Amhaologia, vol. mi. p. 171.
in I79S ; and it has been supposed tlie likencNOJ
tlie Duke uf York was the beat taken of that
Prince. Could any reader inform me on what dtj
this review took place?*
When one sees a picture of Shakspeare, No. 376,
and more especlully in the palace of bis eet/ut.-
pornry sovereigns, one is naturally led to inqnin
into its authenticity, I am therefore deurout tt
obtain some information relative to it.
In"N.&Q.," Vol. vi., p. 197, jou had seveiil
correspondents inquiring concerning th« custom of
royalty dining in public ; perhaps it may interest
tbeni to know that there are two very atttictive
pictures of tbis ceremony in this collection, nniii-
bered 293 nnd 294 : the first is of Chartea L ind
Henrietta Maria; the other Frederick V^ Ck)mit
Palatine and King of Bohemia, who married £[iH<
betb, daughter of James I. These two pictures
are by Van Bassen, of whom, perhaps, aome cor*
respondent may be enabled to give an account.
*.
Richmond, Surrey.
(Buttietf.
ar PUACB.
There are two or three of these concerning
which I should be obliged to any reader of your
publication who would satisfy my Queries.
No. 1 19., " The Battle of F.>rty," by P. Snayers.
This seems a kind of cmabat a mitrance of knights
armis de pied en cap. Where can I find any ac-
count or detail of it ?
No. 314., "Mary of Lorraine, mother of Mary
<2ueen of Scots." This is a very pleasing picture,
in good preservation, and as it was not in its
present position two years ago, I conclude it has
recently been added. She was ninth child of
Claude de Lorraine, first Duo de Guise, born in
1515, and married in 1538 to James V, of Scot-
land, and she died in the forty-fifth year of her
age, 10th June, 1560. There are the arms of the
Guise family in the right-hand corner, with a date
of 1611. Pray by whom was it painted, and where
can I find any notices respecting it ?
No, 166., '■ George III. reviewing the 10th
Light Dri^oons, commanded by the Prince of
Wales." This picture was considered ihe chef
^cmnre of Sir William Beecbey, and was pwnted
Helmet!. — What is the antiquity of the pnu>
tice of placing helmets over the shields of annarial
bearings ; and what are the varieties of helm^ in
regard to the rank or degree of persons i 8. N.
Tke Nursrow. — What is the origin of the word
JVuMroui, a name applied by Plott, in his HiMb>ty of
Staffiirdikire, to the shrew mouse, and b^ the oum-
mon people in Cheshire at Ihe present day to the
field-mouse ; or rather, perhaps, indisorimiDately
to field and shren mice ? N. U.
City Bellmen. — When were city bellmen first
established? By whom appointed f What were
their duties? What and now were thev pMdf
What have been their em[doynieiit awl duties
down to the present day P Cvio.
* George III. had one or two ot^ies of tbi* pie-
relative Co one of these, which Lady Chntterton meo-
lions in her Home Sktlchti, published in three nds;
8vo., 18^1: "In one respivt Ihe picture (which
George III. gare to Lord Sidmouth, and which the
latter had put up at the stone lodge in Richmond New
Park) differs from the original at Hampton Court : it
is singular enough tiiat in this copy the figure of the
Prince is omitted, tahich mat doue by tke Kiug't dmirt,
and is a sirikingand rather comical proof of the dialifca
wLich he felt towards his son. When t!ia Prince be-
came King, he dined here, and remarked to Lord ad-
mouth tliat his portrait had been omitted, and hinted
that it ought to Iw restored. This, however, was
eiaded, and the copy remains in its original Hata,".—
Vol. 1. pp. 18, 19.
Dec. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
539
Papers Elegy on an Unfortunate Lady. — In the
new edition of Pope's Works^ in course of publi-
cation, edited hy Mr. Carruthers, Inverness, it is
conjectured that the poet threw " ideal circum-
stances '' into his most pathetic and melodious
elegy, and " when he came to publish his letters,
put wrong initials, as in other instances, to conceal
the real names" (Pope's Poet Works^ Ingram,
Cook, and Co., vol. ii. p. 184.). The initials are
Mrs. W., niece of Ladj A. I have always thought
that a clue might be obtained to the name of this
lady, by following up the hints in Pope's printed
correspondence. Mrs. or Miss W. is mentioned
or alluded to by Craggs and Pope, in connexion
with the characters in the Rape of the Lock. One
suggests the other. Inquiry should be directed
to the families of Pernor of Tusmore, Lord Petre,
and Sir George Brown. But I have heard a tra-
dition in a Catholic family in the north of Eng-
land that the lady was a Blount ; probably one of
the Blounts of Soddington, or of some one of the
numerous branches of that ancient family.
Ax Inquirer.
" Too wise to err, too good to he unkind" — In
what author may this passage be found ?
" Too wise to err, too good to be unkind."
E. P. H.
Clapham.
Passage in the " Christian Year.'^ — In the beau-
tiful lines on Confirmation in this work, the fol-
lowing verse occurs :
'< Steady and pure as stars that beam
In middle heaven, all mist above,
Seen deepest in the frozen stream :— -
Such is their high courageous love.**
I should be grateful for an explanation of the
third line. A. A. D.
David's Mother. — I used to think it was im-
possible to ascertain from the Old Testament the
name of David's mother. In the Genealogies re-
corded in the Sacred Scriptures, by J. S. (usually
assumed to stand for John Speed, the historian
and geographer), the name of the Psalmist's mo-
ther is given "Nahash." Can this be made out
satisfactorily ? Will the text 2 Sam. xvii. 25., as
compared with 1 Chron. ii. 15., warrant it ?
Y. B. N. J.
Emblems. — Can any of your readers inform me
what are the emblematic meanings of the different
precious stones, or of any of them r or in what work
I shall find them described ? N. D.
" Kaminagadeyathooroosoomokanoogonagira.'" —
In an appeal to the Privy Council from Madras,
the above unparalleled long word occurs as the
description of an estate. I believe that its extreme
length and unpronounceable appearance is without
an equal. Can any of your readers acquainted
with Indian literature translate it ? if so, it would
greatly oblige F. J. G.
** Quid facies^' g-c. —I have lately met with the
following curious play on words in an old MS,
book. Can any of your correspondents give any
account of it ?
** Quid facies, facies Veneris si veneris ante ?
Ne pereas, per eas ; ne sedeas, sed eas f **
Baxltolensis.
WiU of Peter the Great. — M. Lamartini^re, ia
a French pamphlet on the Eastern question, gives
a document in several articles containing advice
with respect to the policy of his successors on the
throne of Russia, in which he advises her to make
great advances in the direction of Constantinople,
India, &c., and advocates the partition of Poland.
Upon what authority does this document rest?
and who is M. Lamartiniere ? B.. J. Aluin.
H. Neele, Editor of Shakspeare. — In the pre-
face to Lectures on English Poetry, being the jRc-
mains of the late Henry Neele (Lond. 1830),
mention is made of a new edition of Shakspeare*s
dramatic works, " under the superintendence of
Mr. Neele as editor, for which his enthusiastic
reverence for the poet of ' all time ' peculiarly
fitted him, but which, from the want of patronage,
terminated after the publication of a very few
numbers." These very few numbers must have
appeared about 1824 — 1827; yet the answer to
my repeated inquiries after them in London is
always " We cannot hear of them." Can any one
give me farther information ? — From the Na"
vorscher. J. M.
MS. by Rubens on Painting. — May I inquire of
M. Philaretb Chasles whether he ever saw or
heard of a manuscript said to be written in Latin
by Rubens, and existing in the Bibliotheque Na-
tionale at Paris? One or two fragments have
occasionally been quoted : I think one may be
found in Sir Joshua Reynolds* Discourses, and the
same is used by Burnet in his work on painting ;
but no authority is given as to the source of tne
information.*
If such a work can be found, it would confer a
great boon upon the profession of the fine arts, if
It were brought to light without delay.
Wbld Taylor.
Peter Allan. — Will some correspondent of
"N. & Q." afford information as to the exact date
and place of birth of the celebrated Peter Allan,
whose cave at Sunderland is regarded as one of
the principal curiosities of the north of England ?
[* This may probably be Rubens's MS. Album, of
which an account is given in Vertue*s Anecdote* of
Painting, vol. ii. pp. 185, 186 Ed.]
540
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 214.
IVhat is known of his general history ; and is any | west end of St. Lawrence Church/* In 18453hi»
member of his family now living ? E. C. street was renamed Gresham Street.]
Haschisch or Indian Hemp. — I have been for
some time trying to procure some of the Haschisch^
or Indian hemp, about which Dr. Moreau has
publishe(i such an amusinpf book, Du Haschisch et
de V Alienation Mentale, Par. 1845. — Can any of
your readers tell me where I can get any ? The
narcotic effects of the common hemp plant are
well known in our country districts : where, under
its ironical alias Honesty^ the dried stalk is often
smoked, but the tropical variety appears to be
infinitely more powerful in its operation.
V. T. Sternbebg.
Crieff Compensation. — During the rebellion in
1715, the villnge of Crieff, Perthshire, was burnt
by the Highland army, on account of the attach-
ment of its inhabitants to the royal cause. It has
been stated that, some years ago, the descendants
of the sufferers received from government a sum
equivalent to a certain proportion of the loss
which had been sustained.
Is there any oflicial record in reference to this
compensation ? D.
Admission to Lincoln^s Inn^ the Temple.^ and
Gray's Inn. — Have there ever been published, or
do there exist anywhere in MSS., lists of the
persons who have been from time to time matri-
culated as students of those inns of court ?
A publication of them would be of the greatest
value to the biographical department of literature.
G.
Orders for the Household of Lord Montagu. —
The second Viscount Montagu, jjrandson and heir
of Anthony Browne, created Viscount in 1554,
ob. 1592, compiled a detailed code of regulations
for his family, thus entitled :
** A Booke of Orders and Rules established by me,
Anthony, Viscount Mountague, for the better direction
and government of my howsholde and family, together
with the general! dutycs and charges apperteyninge to
myne oflficers and other servantcs. Anno Dui 1595."
Has this curious illustration of ancient domestic
manners ever been published ? Albbet Wat.
Cateaton Street. — I am anxious to ascertain
the meaning and derivation of this word : the
London Cateaton Street, I believe, is changed
into Gresham Street. I have lately learnt that
there is a Cateaton Street in Liverpool also.
Ettmo.
[Cateaton Street, or *' Catteten Street," says Stour,
** is a corruption of Catte Street, which beginneth at
the north end of Ironmonger Lane, and runneth to the
Portrait of Lee^ Inventor of the Stocking'-frame,
— In II at ton's History of London (published in
1708), it is stated that a picture (by Balderston)
of Lee, the inventor of the stocking-frame, hung^
: in the hall of the Framework Knitters' Companj.
The inquirer wishes to ascertain whether the pic-
ture is yet in existence or not; and, if still in
existence, where it can be seen. M. B.
[In Cunningham's Handbook of London, p. 527.»
s. V. Weavers' Hall, Basinghall Street, is a quotation
from the Quarterly Review for January, 1816, in which
the picture is spoken of as then existing in the Stock-
ing Weavers' Hall.]
Cocker's Arithmetic (Vol. iv., pp. 102. 149.). —
Some correspondence appears in " N. & Q." aboat
the first edition of "Old Cocker." I should
be glad to ascertain the date of the latest edition.
Tteo.
[The British Museum contains the following edi-
tions of Cocker's Arithmetic : — the 20th, Lond. 1700;
the 37th, perused and published by John Hawkins
(with MS. notes), Lond. 1720; 41st, Lond. 1724;
50th, corrected by Geo. Fisher, Lond. 1746. Watt
notices one revised by J. Mair, Edinb. 1751. In
Professor de Llorgan's Arithmetical Books, p. 56., where
a full history of Cocker's book is given, mention is
made of an Edinburgh edition, 1765, and a Glasgow
edition of 1777.]
Lyhe Porch or Litch Porch, — What is the pro-
per name for the porch found, not unfrequentlj,
at the churchyard gate under which the body was,
I believe, supposed to rest before the funeral ? Is
it lyhe or litch ? The derivation may be difiercnt ia
different parts of England, as they were originally
Saxon or Danish. Liig Dan., lyk Dutch, and
leiche Ger., are all different forms of the same
word. The first two approach nearer to lyke^ the
latter to litch. J. H, L
[In most works on ecclesiastical architecture it is
called lich-gate, from Anglo-Saxon lich, a corpse: hence
Lich'fidd, the field of dead bodies. In the Glotuary of
Architecture we read : " Lich-gate, or corpse -gate, leieh-^
engang. Germ., from the Ang.-Sax. lick, a corpse, and
geat, a gate ; a shed over the entrance of a clnirchyard,
beneath which the bearers sometimes paused when
bringing a corpse for interment. Tlie term is also
used in some parts of the country for the path by
which a corpse is usually conveyed to the church.**}
Henry Burton, — Henry Burton was bom in
1579 ; studied at Oxford, and was at one time
minister of St. Matthew, Friday Street. In 1636,
he drew upon himself the vengeance of the Star-
Chamber, by two discourses in which he severel/
inveighed against the bishops. For this ofienoe
he y?as fined, deprived of his ears, and sentenced
to imprisonment for life. He was liberated hj
Dec. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
541
the parliament in 1640, and died in 1648. What
theological works did he write ? — From the Na^
vorscher.
DiONTSIUS.
[Barton's pen was so prolific, that we cannot find
room for a list of his works; and must refer Dionysius
to the Bodleian Catalof^ue, where they fill nearly a
column, and to Watt's Bibliotheca, s.v.]
Bj'itish Matliematicians, — ^I am anxious to learn
if there is any book which contains an account of
the lives and works of eminent British arithme-
ticians and mathematicians ? Euclid.
[Consult the fallowing: — Biographia Philosqphica :
being an Account of the Lives, Writings, and In-
ventions of the most eminent Philosophers and Mathe-
maticians, by Benjamin Martin : London, 1764, 8vo.
There is also a Chronological Table of the most emi-
nent Mathematicians affixed to John Bossut's General
History of Mathematics^ translated from the French by
John Bonnycastle : London, 1803, 8vo. Some notices
•of our early English mathematicians will also be found
in the Companion to the Almanac for 1837, and in the
Magazine of Popular Science^ Nos. 18. 20. and 22.]
"Ze5 Lettres Juices,^'' — Will any of your corre-
spondents inform me who is the author of Lettres
Juives ? The first volume of my edition, in eight
volumes r2mo., has the portrait of Jean Batiste
B., Marquis de , ne le 29 Juin, 1704. J. R.
Sunderland.
[" Tar le Marquis D'Argens," says Barbicr.]
ATTAINMENT OF MAJORITY.
(VoLviii., pp. 198. 250.)
In replying to Professor De Morgan's last
communication on this subject, it may be as well,
in order to avoid future misunderstanding, to re-
vert briefly to my original question. I pointed
out Ben Jonson*s assertion, through a character in
one of his plays, that about the beginning of the
seventeenth century, it was the custom to regard
the legal rights of majority as commencing with
eix o'clock a.m., and I asked to have that assertion
reconciled with our present commencement at
midnight, and with the statement that the latter
is in accordance with the old reckoning.
Thus I started with the production of afBrmative
evidence, to rebut which I cannot find, in the
replies of Professor De Morgan, any negative
evidence stronger than his individual opmion,
which, however eminent in other respects, has un-
doubtedly the disadvantage of being two hundred
years later than the contemporary evidence pro-
duced by me. I afterwards cited Arthur Ilopton
as authority that lawyers in England, in his time,
did make use of a day which he classifies as that
of the Babylonians ; but inasmuch as he apparently
restricts its duration to twelve hours, whereas all
ancient writers concur in assigning to the Baby-
lonians a day of twenty-four hours, there is evi-
dently a mistake somewhere, attributable either
to Hopton or his printers.
This mistake may have arisen either from a
misprint, or from a transposition of a portion of
the sentence.
Tiie supposition of a misprint is favoured by the
circumstance that Hopton was, at the time, pro-
fessing to describe natural days of twenty-four
hours; of these there are four great classes of
commencement, from the four principal quarters
of the day ; viz. from midnight, from mid-day,
from sun-setting, and from sun-rising. Hopton
had already assigned three of them to different
nations, and the fourth he had properly assigned,
so far as its commencement at sunrise was con-
cerned, to the Babylonians. What, then, can be
more probable than that he intended this day also,
like the rest, to be of twenty-four hours' duration ;
and that the words " holding till sun-setting "
ought, perhaps, to have been printed " holding till
suxi-rising f '
This way of reconciling seeming anomalies, by
the supposition of probable misprints, receives
great encouragement in the occasional occur-
rence of similar mistakes in the most carefully
printed modern books. I lately noticed, while
reading Sir James "Ross's Southern Vorjage of
Discovery^ a work printed by the Admiralty, and
on which extraordinary typographical care had
been bestowed, the following, at page 121. of
vol. ii. :
<< It was full moon on the 15th of September, at
5-38 A.M."
But the context shows that " full moon " ought
to have been printed new moon, and that *'5*S8 a.m."
ouffht tobe 5'38 p.m.: and what renders these two
mistakes the more remarkable is, that they have
no sort of connexion, nor is the occurrence of the
one in any way explanatory of the other.
Now, the misprint of " sun-setting " for sun*
rising, which I am supposing in Hopton's book,
would be much more likely of occurrence than
these, because these form part of a series of care-
fully examined data from which a scientific deduc-
tion, is to be drawn, while Hopton's is a mere loose
description. And, moreover, a twenty-four hour
day, commencing and ending with sunrise, does
not, after all, appear to be so wholly unknown to
English law as Prof. De Morgan supposes, since
Sir Edward Coke, to whom the Professor espe-
cially refers, describes such a day in these words :
" Dies naturalis constat ea 24 horis et continet diem
solarem et noctem ; and therefore in Inditeraents for
Burglary and the like, we say in nocte ejusdem diei,
Istc dies naturalis est spatium in quo sol progreditur
ab oriente in occidcntem et ab occidente iterum in
orientem."
542
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 214.
But there is another way of reconciling the dis-
crepancy— Hopton may not have intended the
words ** holding till sun-setting" to apply to the
Babylonians, but only to "the lawyers in England,'*
whose day, he says, commenced at the same time as
the Babylonian day. The transposition of the words
in question to the end of the sentence would give
such a meaning, viz. "The Babylonians begin
their day at sun-rising, and so do our lawyers
count it in England, holding till sun-setting.**
Altered in this way, the latter clause does not
necessarily apply to the Babylonians.
Here again we have a lawyers* day almost ver-
bally identical with one assigned to them by Sir
Edward Coke : " Dies artificialis sive Solaris incipit
in ortu solis et desinit in occasu, and of this the
law of England takes hold in many cases.*'
Nor does Lord Coke strengthen or vary his de-
scription in the least, when speaking of the day
commencing at midnight ; he uses again the same
expression with regard to it, " The Egyptians
and Romiins from midnight, and so doth the law
of England in many cases''
Hence the authority of Chief Justice Coke, is
at best only neutral ; for who will undertake to
prove to which of these classes of " many cases **
Lord Coke meant to assign the attainment of ma-
jority ?
In support of Ben Jonson*s testimony, it may be
urged that the midnight initial of the day was
itself derived by us from the Romans ; and it is
nearly certain that they did not perform any legal
act, connected with birthday, until the commence-
ment of the dies solis.
A proof of this may be observed in the discussion
by Aulus Gellius (N'oct. Altic.^ iii. 2.) as to which
day, tliG preceding or the following, a person's
birth, happening in the night, was to be attributed.
. He quotes a fragment from Varro, —
" Homilies qui ex media noctead proximam mediam
noctem his boris xxiv nati sunt, uno die nati di-
cunlur."
On which Gellius remarks :
** From these words it may be observed that the ar-
rangement of (birth) days was such, tliat to any person
born after sunset, and before midnight, the day from
which that night had proceeded should be the birth-
day ; but to any person born during the last six hours
of the night, the day whicli should succeed that night
must bvj the birthday."
This explanation might seem almost purposely
written in reply to some such difficulty as occurred
to Professor De Morgan (ante^ p. 250.), when
he remarks that, if birthday were to be confined to
daylight, "a child not born by daylight would
have no birthday at all ! " But since it was no-
torious amongst the Romans that the civil day
began at midnight, such a quceri solitum ns this
could never have been mooted, if the birthday ob-
servance had not been known and acknowledged
to have a different commencement. In continua-
tion of the same subject, Gellius proceeds to quote
another passage from Varro, wnich I shall also
repeat, not only as furnishing still farther proof
that the Romans did not regard the night as
forming any part of the birthday, but ^so as
affording an opportunity of recording an opinion
as to the interpretation of Varro's words, which,
in this passage, do not appear to have ever been
properly understood.
After stating that many persons in Umbria
reckon from noon to noon as one and the same day,
Varro remarks :
" Quod quidem nimis absurdum est ; nam qui ca-
lendarum hora sexta natus est apud Umbros, dies ejus
natalis videri debebit et calendarum dimidiatus, et
qui est post calendas dies ante horam ejusdem diei
sextam.'*
Now why should beginning one's birthday at
noon appear so absurd to Varro ? Simply because
the hours of the night were not then supposed to
be included in the birthday at all, and therefore
Varro could not realize the idea of a birthday con-
tinued through the night.
He says that, according to the Umbrian reckon-
ing, a person bom on any day after the point of
noon, would have only half a birthday on that
day; and for the other half, he would have to
take the forenoon of the following day. Varro
had no notion of joining the afternoon of one day
to the forenoon of another, because he looked
upon the unbroken presence of the sun as the very
essence of a natal day.
Nothing can be plainer than that this was the
true nature of the absurdity alluded to ; but it
would not suit the prejudices of the commentators,
because it would compel them to admit that sexta
hora must have been in the afternoon^ in opposition
to their favourite dogma that it was always in the
forenoon.
For if Varro had intended to represent sexta
hora in the forenoon^ he would have said that the
other half-day must be taken from the afternoon
of the pridie, instead of saying, as he does say,
that it must be taken from the ybr^noon of the
postridie of the Calends.
Consequently, Varro means by " qui Calenda-
rum hora sexta natus est," a person born in the
sixth hour of the day of the Calends ; the sixth
hour being that which immediately succeeded
noon — the media hora of Ovid. But what Varro
more immediately means by it is, not any parti-
cular point of time, but generally any time after
noon on the day of the Calends.
That the true position of sexta hora^ when im-
E lying duration, was in the afternoon, has long
een a conviction of mine ; and I have elsewhere
produced undeniable evidence that it was so con-
Dec. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
54S
sidered by ancient authors. But this passage
from Varro is a new and hitherto unnoticed proof,
and certainly it ought to be a most convincing
one, because it seems impossible to give to Varro*s
words a rational meaning without the admission of
this hypothesis, while with it everything is clear
and consistent.
The commentators, driven by the necessity I
have just pointed out, either to admit the afternoon
position of sexta hora^ or to abstain from reading
it as a space of time, have attempted to force a
meaning by reading sexta hora iu its other sense,
an absolute mathematical point, ih^ punctus ipse of
noon.
In so doing they have not scrupled to libel
Varro's common sense ; they represent his idea of
the absurd to consist in the embarrassment that
would be caused by the birth occurring at the
critical moment of change, — split as it were upon
the knife-edge of noon ; so that, in the doubt that
would arise as to which day it should belong, it
must be attributed partly to both !
This interpretation is so monstrous, and so evi-
dently wide of the meaning of the words, that its
serious imputation would scarcely be believed, if
it were not embalmed in the Delphin edition of
Aulus Gellius, where we read the following foot-
note referring to the argumentum ad absurdum of
Varro : '
" Infirmiim omnino argumentum, et quod perinde
potest in ipsum Varronem retorqueri. Quid enim ?
Si quis apud Romanos Calendis hora vi. noctis fuerit
natus, nonne pariter dies ejus natalis videri debebit, et
partim Calendarum, et partim ejus diei qui sequetur? "
It is not worth while to inquire what may have
been the precise dilemma contemplated by the
writer of this note, since most certainly it is not a
reflex of Varro's meaning. The word dimidiatus
is completely cushioned, although Gellius himself
has a chapter upon it a little farther on in the
same volume.
The anomaly that amused Varro was the ne-
cessity of piecing together two halves not be-
longing to the same individual day and with the
hiatus of a night between them ; a necessity that
would assuredly appear most absurd to one who
had no other idea of birthday than the twelve
consecutive hours of artificial day, which he would
call " the natural day."
This proneness of the Komans to look upon the
dies solis as the only effective part of the twenty-
four hours, is again apparent in their commence-
ment of horary notation at sunrise, six hours later
than the actual commencement of the day. And
in our own anomalous repetition of twice twelve,
we may still trace the remains of the twelve-hour
day ; we have changed the initial point, but we
have retained the measure of duration.
It is, however, certain that the two methods of
reckoning time continued for a long time to exist
contemporaneously. Hence it became necessary to
distinguish one from the other fty name, and thus
the notation from midnight gave rise, as I have
remarked in one of my papers on Chaucer, to the
English idiomatic phrase "of the clock ;" or the
reckoning of the clock, commencing at midni^t^.
as distinguished from Roman equinoctial hours,,
commencmg at six o*clock a.m. This was what
Ben Jonson was meaning by attainment of ma-^
jority at six o'cloch, and not, as Pbopessob Db
Morgan supposes, " probably a certain sunrise."'
Actual sunrise had certainly nothing to do with
the technical commencement of the day in Ben
Jonson's time. For convenience sake, six o'clock
had long been taken as conventional sunrise all the
year round : and even amongst the Romans them*
selves, equinoctial hours were frequently used at
all seasons. Actual sunrise, in after times, had
only to do with " hours inequall," which are said
to have fallen into disuse, in common life, so earljr
as the fifth or sixth century.
I trust I may now have shown reasonable
grounds for the belief that Ben Jonson may, after
all, have had better authority than his license as a
dramatic poet, for dating the attainment of ma-
jority at six o'clock a.m. ; and that nothing short
of contemporary evidence directly contradictory
of the custom so circumstantially alluded to l^
him, ought to be held sufficient to throw discredit
upon it. It is one of the singular coincidences
attending the discussion of this matter by Gellius,.
that, at the conclusion of the chapter I have been
expatiating upon, he should cite the authority or
Virgil ; observing that the testimony of poets is
very valuable upon such subjects, even when
veiled in the obscurity of poetic imagery.
. A.E.B.
Leeds.
LORD HALIFAX AND MBS. CATHERINE BARTON*
(Vol. viii., p. 429.)
Your correspondent Prof. De Morgan has sa
ingeniously analysed the facts, which he already
possesses, bearing on the connexion of Sir Isaac
Newton's niece with Lord Halifax, and her desig-
nation in the Biographia Britannica, that I am
tempted to furnish him with some additional evi-
dence. This question of Mrs. Catherine Barton's
widowhood has often been canvassed by that por-
tion of her relatives who do not possess the cus-
tody of Sir Isaac Newton's private letters.
The Montagues had a residence in the village
of Bregstock in Northamptonshire, where the
Bartons lived. The Bartons were a family of good
descent, and had long been lessees of the croim
with the Montagues for lands near Braystock.
There were several Colonel Bartons, whose
respective ages and relationship can best be ex-
S44
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 214.
bibited bj n short pedicree. Thomas Barton hnd
two aons, Tliomas nud Robert.
Bobert (born in 1630, and wLo died in 1633)
married Hannili Smilli, Newton's hnlf-sistcr, by
whom he had Hannah (born 1678), Catherine
(born 1C79, died 1739), Colonel Robert (born
I6S4).
Thomas (born in lG19,dlod in 1704) niamed
Alice Palmer, by whom Iw hod Tliomaa, who
niorried Mary Dale, by whom he had Tliomas
(d.s.p.), Colonel Matthew (bom 1072), Colonel
Noel (born 1C74, died 1714). Thomas had a
second son, Geoffrey, who married lilizabeth ,
iywhom he had Charles (born 1700), Cults (born
1706), Ci\thorlne (born 170D), Montague (born
1717), and others.
In a family paper written by a granddaughter
of Colonel Noel Barton, at her mother's dictation,
it is stated that Colonel Matthew mnrrled a rela-
tive of Sir Isaac Newton, and was Comptroller of
the Mint ; but this paper is not very correct in its
Other statements.
On the other hand, a connexion of the family
who signs himself II. in an old nuniber of the
Oenileman's Magazine, says of Newton :
" He had a hair-sister, whi> had a dnugliter, to ivbom
be gave (lie best of ediicatioTis, the rnmous n-illy Kliss
Barton, wlio married Mr. Conduit of (he Mint."
I bad always thought that Catherine Barton's
brother Robert had died too early to attain the
rank of Colonel. In the British ^luseum, in the
BecisteT, there is an account of a sermon preached
at the funeral of Bobert Barton in the year 1703.
I could not find the sermon.
The famous Duchess of Marlborough thus
satirises Mouse Montague :
x He was n frightful figure, and yet pretended to be
« lover ; and followed several beauties, who laughed nt
him for it."
It is worth mentioning that Colonel Noel Bar-
ton died in London in 1714, while in attendance
on his patron IrtDrf Gainsborough, soon after he
bad been appointed Governor of t!ie Leeward
Islands. This was the year before Lord Halifax's
Li/e was written, and possibly might have been
the cause of the design;ition " Widow " being ap-
plied to Catherine Barton by mistake. Whatever
the connexion of this lady with Lord Halifax may
bare been, it does not seem to have given any
o&ence to her relatives. You will observe that
Geoffrey Barton names his sons Charles and Mon-
tague, and his daughter Catherine. Charles
afterwards received the rectory of St. Andrew's
Holboi-n from the family of Montague ; and Cutts
waaDeanof Bristol under Bishop Montague. And
Montague obtained preferment from Mr. Conduit.
Neither the family of Montague, nor that of
Barton, seem to have thought the connexion dis-
creditable. Jloreover, the births of these children
of Geoffrey Barton, a clergyman, occurred at the
very noriod when the name of Catlierine should
have been most distasteful, had the intimacy been
dislionourable.
Mr. Conduit died in the year 1738, and Mrs.
Conduit iu the year 1 739 ; and Catherine Conduit
did not become Lady Lymington till 1740. Pro-
bably both Mr. and Mrs. Conduit made wills.
Have they been examined at Doctors' Commons ?
J. W. J.
(Vol.viii., pp. 12. 134. 200. 375. 4S2. 471.)
It is pleasing to find so much interest excited
among the readers of " N. & Q." relative to the
parentage of this lady ; and we may fairly hope
that the spirit of research which has Ihue been
awakened, will not die away until the last spark
of error and mystery has been extinguished.
T. L. P. has favoured us with quotations from a
little pamphlet, entitlotl Historical Facts eonnecled
toith JvanhcicA and its Ifeighbovrhood. Now, after
giving this work a most careful perusal, I cannot
but think that the title of the book is, in this in-
stance at least, a misnomer. The authoress, for
it was written by a lady long resident iu the
vicinity, has evidently wrought upon the found-
ations of others ; and taking the veteran Ormerod
OS a sufficient authority, has given full vent to her
imagination, and pictured, with "no 'prentice
hand," the welcome visits of Milton to Stoke
Hall, a place which, in all probability, was never
once honoured with the presence of this great
man. There is no evidence whatever adduced to
give even the semblance of colour to this unfor*
f unate error ; whereas, on the side of the Wistaslon
controvertible.
As if, indeed, to give us "confirmation sure" of
the truth of this position, our old friend Cbahmobb
starts up, " like a spirit from the vasty deep," and,
after an absence of many months from our ranks,
pays off his ancient score by producing the evi-
dence he so long ago promised us. From it wo
gather that Thomas Paget, the father, named his
eotui'n Itlinshull, apotheearv in Manchester, over-
seer of his will ; and that his son, Nathan Paget,
eighteen years afterwards, names in his will John
Goldsmith and Elizabeth Milton as hia cousins,
and makes bequests to them accordingly. Now,
it so happens that Thomas, son of Richard Min-
shull of Wistnston, was an apothecai-y, and that he
settled in Manchester, and ihereupon founded the
family of Miiiahull of Manchester. This gentle-
Dec. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
545
man was doubtless the cousin referred to in the
will of the elder Paget. It farther happens, that
Thomas Minshull, the grandfather of this Man-
chester apothecary, married a daughter of Gold-
smith of Ifantwich. The John Goldsmith of the
Middle Temple would then doubtless be the
nephew or grand-nephew of this lady, and in
either case a cousin of Thomas Minshull of Man-
chester, and of Elizabeth Minshull of Wistaston.
This is another, if not a completing link in the
genealogical chain, and convinces me, now more
than ever, of the correctness of my conclusions.
I may add that the whole of the deeds referred
to by Mb. Singer are now in the safe and worthy
keeping of Mr. J. Fitchett Marsh, of Warrington ;
and that they are published in extenso, together
with a valuable essay on their historical import-
ance by their present possessor, in the first volume
of Miscellanies issued by the Chetham Society.
T. Hughes.
ANTICIPATORY USE OP THE CROSS.
(Vol. viii., pp. 132. 417.)
I am not sure that any of your correspondents
have noticed the resemblance between the letter
T t, especially in some of its ancient forms, and
the form of the cross. In the Greek, Etruscan,
and Samaritan forms of this letter, we have re-
presentations of the three principal forms which
the cross has assumed : Tj t» >< • ^^ ^^ also re-
markable that in Ezekiel ix. 4. 6. : " Set a mark on
the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry,"
&c., the word rendered "mark" is in (Tau), the
name of the Hebrew letter answering to the above :
and as the Samaritan alphabet, which the present
Hebrew characters have superseded, was then in
use, it is highly probable that the " mark " re-
ferred to in Ezekiel's vision was the Samaritan
Tan, as seen on ancient Hebrew shekels, resem-
bling a St. Andrew's cross.
A circumstance relating to the Paschal sacrifice
mentioned by Justin Martyr, in his conference
with Trypho the Jew, and which he asserts with-
out contradiction from his learned opponent, is
worthy of a note :
" This lamb, which was to be roasted whole, was a
symbol of the punishment of the cross, which was in-
flicted on Christ, To yap oirjcoixevoi/ irpo^arov^ k. t. K
For the lamb which was roasted was so placed as to
resemble the figure of a cross ; with one spit it was
pierced longitudinally, from the tail to the head ; with
another it was transfixed through the shoulders, so that
the forelegs became extended." — Vid. Just. Martyri
Opera, edit. Oberther, vol. ii. p. 106.
Your correspondent II. "N. appears to have
fallen into several errors, which (having appeared
in " N. & Q.") ousfht not to pass unnoticed.
1. He confounds the basilica with the cruciform
cathedral, and with "the plan of the Homan
forum."
Basilica (from Gr. BouriXiKij, a royal dwelling)
was the name given by the Romans to those
public edifices in which justice was administered
and mercantile business transacted. Several of
these buildings, or the remains of them, still exist
in Rome, each forum probably having had its
basilica, Vitruvius, who constructed one at
Fanum, says it ought to be built " on the warm
side of the forum, that those whose affairs call
them thither might confer without being incom-
moded by the weather." Yet H. N". says : " The
basilica seems to have originally been the archi-
tectural plan of the Roman forum." The most
perfect specimen of the antique basilica is that
discovered at Pompeii, on the south side of the
forum and at right angles with it. By consulting
a good plan of Pompeii, or glancing at a plan of
its basilica, any one may see that it was not cruci-
form, but " in the form of a long parallelogram,"
with a central^space and side porticoes, answering
to the nave and aisles of a church. The early
Christians adopted the basilica form for their
churches : those built in the form of a Greek op
Latin cross are of much later date. Yet H. N.'s
learned friend exclaims, when viewing the temple
of Muttra, " Here is the cross I the basilica car-
ried out with more correctness of order and
symmetry than in Italy ! "
2. H. N. assumes that the Jews practised
crucifixion as a punishment, and " may have imi-
tated the Assyrians, as crucifixion may have been
adopted long before that of Christ and the two
thieves (Qy. robbers)." Crucifixion appears to
have been in use from a very remote period, but
was never adopted by the efews. The Romans,
who with all their greatness were an atrociously
cruel people, employed it as the peculiar and
appropriate punishment of delinquent slaves-
Christ was " crucified under Pontius Pilate," the
Roman Procurator of Judea, at a time when that
country had become subject to the Romans, and
its rulers could say, "It is not lawful for us to
put any man to death."
3. When H. N. refers to " the advocates of
conversion and their itinerant agents," it is difli-
cult to perceive exactly what he intends, except
" to hint a fault and hesitate dislike." But before
a writer undertakes to cast a reflection on those
great societies who have been labouring — ^^not by
coercion, but by instruction and persuasion, by
the circulation of the scriptures and the preaching
of the Gospel — to substitute Christianity for
idolatry among those who are under the govern-
ment of Great Britain, he should well understand
the grounds of his censures, so as to be able " to
explain to the conversionists that, unless this doc-
trine be openly refuted, the missionaries may in
truth be fighting their own shadow."
546
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 214.
How then has H. N. explained the doctrine
which they are to refute — the meaning of the
" cross and basilica '* in India ? The only witness
in proof of it has disappeared " by falling into a
volcanic crater.*' He himself professes to be quite
iffnorant of cathedral architecture ; and the En-
glish government^ and English gentlemen gene-
rally, who have shamefully secreted such a trea-
sure, are equally ignorant. Why had they not
consulted the living Church of Hindooism, and
shown it a little sympathy and respect with a
view to getting enlightened? Whereas "the
little they do know is derived from books." Far-
ther, " the elder civilians, men of ability, classical
scholars, and first-rate Asiatic linguists," when
assembled in that very building, though they
descanted on the sanctity of the place, " not one
of them knew nor remarked the 'cross and
basilica.*" And when visiting the great temple
of Benares, H. N. does not recollect that the
cross was either noticed to him or by him.
It may be true that when the Hindoo " system
of government existed in efficiency, there was
neither crime nor punishment" — a shadowy
tradition, I presume, of the state of innocence 1
It may also be true that " the mythology of the
Nile agrees with that of the Ganges.'* But it
would not follow that the cross is a myth derived
from the mysteries of Egypt or the astronomy of
India. It would still remain an unquestionable
fact, that the cross, for ages nn instrument of
ignominious torture under Pagan Kome, only
ceased to be so when Christianity had won its
way through all ranks of society up to the im-
perial throne ; then its employment was abolished
by Confetantine, partly from the humanising in-
fluence of the new faith, and partly out of re-
verence to Him who had suffered on it for the
world's redemption.
The anticipations of Christianity supplied by
Paganism, of which Krishna " burnishing the
head of the serpent " is a striking example, may
be easily accounted for, and their source pointed
out. As a corruption of the earliest revelation.
Paganism contains, as might be expected, a por-
tion of truth blended with much error. Indeed,
it would be no difficult task to prove that clas-
sical and oriental mythology is in some sense, and
to a great extent, the shadow of biblical truth.
What then ? In endeavouring to supplant ido-
latry in the Roman empire, were the Apostles and
first preachers of Christianity merely " fighting
their own shadow ? " They recognised those
truths which even heathens admit, but opposed
and overthrew the accumulated errors of ages.
Yet there were some even then who condemned
the preaching of the cross as "foolishness," till
success demonstrated its wisdom.
Lastly, H. N., having " travelled much in this
country and on the Continent," is convinced
"that superstition prevails comparatively less in
Asia than in Europe,** and that "the pages of
* N. & Q.* abundantly corroborate the opinion.**
This is far more startling than the discovery of
the "cross and basilica** at Muttra. To admit
it, however, would require us to disregard the
testimony of a cloud of witnesses, and to ignore
all our former reading. The vast systems of
Asiatic superstition, it seems, are less objectionable
than our own folk lore ; the tremendous shades of
Brahma andBudhu, of Juggernaut and theffoddess
Kali, with their uncouth images and horrid wor-
ship, are harmless when compared with Puck, the
Pixies, and Robin Goodfellow ; and Caste, Suttee,
and Devil-worship* are evils of less magnitude
than cairns, kist-vaens, and cromlechs. The
mental balance must be peculiarly constructed
that could lead to such a decision. Certainly
H. N. b no Rhadamanthus. " Dat veniam corvis,
vexat censura columbas."
The appeal to " N. & Q." in corroboration of
his opinion forms a pleasant and suitable con-
clusion of the whole: for while in India super-
stition still undeniably lives and "prevails," it is
one special object of " N. & Q." to embalm the
remains of local superstitions in Great Britain
that have either breathed their last, or are in
extremis; to collect the relics of long-departed
superstitions that were once vigorous and rampant
in our island, but are now in danger of being lost
and forgotten. Their very remnants and vestiges
have become so rare that they are unknown to the
great mass of the community ; and the learned,
therefore, especially those versed in ethology, are
urged to hunt them out wherever they exist in
the different districts of the country, before they
fall into utter oblivion. J. W. Thomas.
Dewsbury.
I would be^ to suggest to H. NT. that if hb
friend Count Venua saw in the Hindoo temple at
Muttra both the form of a perfect cross and of a
" basilica, carried out with more correctness of
order and symmetry than in Italy," he must have
been so totally ignorant of early architecture as
to make his observations quite worthless, since
there is no more similitude between the cruciform
church and the basilica than there is between two
parallel lines (=) and two lines crossing each
other at right angles (4-).
" The precise shape of the cross on the Temple
of Serapis " can only be inferred from the words
of the historian cited, and the inference therefrom
is strong that it was the crux ansata.
Edsn Warwick.
Birmingham.
* For proof of the existence of Devil-worship, see
Vakkun Nattanawat a Cingalese poem, translated by
John Callaway, printed for the Oriental Translation
Fund: J. Murray, 18S9.
Dec. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
547
■ DBCOBATiyE PAVEMENT TILES FROM CAEN.
J (Vol. viii., p. 493.)
0 The tiles presented, in 1786, to Mr. Charles
2 Chad wick, of Mavesyn-Ridware, Staffordshire, are
P preserved in the church at that place. They form
^ two tablets affixed to the wall in the remarkable
g sepulchral chapel arranged and decorated, at a
g great cost, bj the directions of that gentleman
1 towards the close of the last century, when the
, greater portion of the church was rebuilt. The
, north chapel, or aisle, containing the tombs of the
Mavesyns and the Ridwares, the ancient lords of
the estates which descended to Mr. Chadwick, was
preserved ; and here are to be seen two cross-
legged effigies, a curious incised portraiture on an
altar-tomb, representing Sir Robert Mavesyn,
1403, with other incised slabs and interesting me-
morials ; to which were added, by Mr. Chadwick,
a series of large incised figures, which surround
the chapel. These last are not shown in the view
given in Shaw's History of Staffordshire^ vol. ii.
p. 191., having been executed since the publication
of that work ; and it is stated that they were en-
graved by the parish clerk under Mr. Chadwick*s
direction, being intended to pourtray the succes-
sive lords of the place from the Norman times to
the sixteenth century, each in the costume of his
period. There are also numerous atchievements
and other decorations attached to the walls ;
amongst these are the pavement tiles from Caen,
one of which bore the same arms as are assigned
to the family of Malvoisin-Rosny, and on that ac-
count probably Mr. Chadwick placed these relics
from Normandy amongst the enrichments of his
mausoleum.
In regard to Mr. Boase's first inquiry, " Who
was Charles Chadwick, Esq. ? " it may suffice to
cite the detailed account of the family given by
Shaw, and the short notice of that gentleman
which will be found in the History of Stafford-
shire, vol. ii. p. 185.
On a visit to Mavesyn-Ridware in 1839, I was
struck with the appearance of these tiles ; their
design and fashion at once recalled those from
Caen with which I had been familiar in Normandy.
Having ascertained their origin, I took occasion
to state the fact of their preservation at this church
in the " Notes on Decorative Tiles," communicated
to Mr. Parker by me, and given in the fourth
edition of his useful Glossary of Architecture, in
1845: see p. 367.
It should be observed that the number of tiles
composing the two t^lets now to be seen is forty ;
whilst the number, as stated Gent Mag., vol. lix.
part i. p. 211., and in a second letter from Mr.
Barrett, in vol. Ix. part ii. p. 710., not cited by
Mr. Boase in his Query, is twenty. Me. Boase
is probably aware that the sixteen tiles from the
Great Guard Chamber at Caen, which supplied the
subject of Mr. J. Major Henniker*s memoir, were
presented by him to the Society of Antiquaries of
London, and are now in their museum, as noticed
in the catalogue, compiled by myself, p. 30.
A coloured drawing of an heraldic pavement at
Caen, taken about 1700, is preserved in a volume
of the great collection formed by M. de Gaignieres,
and bequeathed by Gough to the Bodleian Li-
brary. It comprises chiefly drawings of French
sepulchral monuments, arranged by localities ; and
there is one volume, entitled Recueil de Tapisseries,
d'Armoiries et de Devises, in which may be found
the interesting memorial of this decorative pave-
ment of tiles, which was destroyed during the
fury of the Revolution. Axbebt Wat,
Cliarles Chadwick, Esq., of Healy Hall, Lanca-
shire, and Mavesyn-Ridware, in the county of
Stafford, to whom the monks of St. Stephen, at
Caen, presented, in the year 1786, a series of
encaustic tiles with heraldic devices taken from
the floor of the (so called) " Great Guard Cham-
ber of the Palace of the Dukes of Normandy,"
died in 1829. I infer that the tiles were brought
to the Lancashire residence of Mr. Chadwick
because the description and the drawing for the
engraving were both supplied to the GentlemarCs
Magazine by a Lancashire antiquary, Thomas
Barnett, of Hydes Cross, Manchester : but as the
descendants of Mr. Chadwick no longer reside in
Lancashire, the hall being occupied by a woollen
manufacturer, I have been unable to obtain any
information respecting the tiles, though long de-
sirous to do so.
I direct attention to another series of the same
tiles, sixteen in number, which were presented to
the Society of Antiquaries through the president,
the Earl of Leicester, in 1788, by John Ilenniker,
Esq., M.A., F.R.S., S.A., and M.P., who after-
wards took the additional name of Major. This
gentleman received the tiles from his brother,
Captain Henniker, then resident at Caen; and
in 1794 he published an interesting account of
them with engravings, entitfed Two Letters on the
Origin, Antiquity, and History of Norman Tiles
stained with Armorial Bearings (London, John
Bell, Strand). The engravings both in this
volume and in the Gentleman's Magazine are
indifferently executed, and too small in scale to
be of use. Mr. Henniker describes the colours of
his tiles to be "yellow and brown," while Mr.
Barnett states that the tiles in Mr. Chadwick's
possession were " light grey and black ; " a curi-
ous discrepancy, seeing that in all other respects
they were exactly similar. These tiles are of so
much heraldic and antiquarian interest that if
either set could be made available for the purpose,
it is very desirable that they be engraved of full
size, and printed by the modern easy process to
imitate the colours. Gilbert J. French.
548
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[No. 214.
MOTTOS OF THE EMPERORS OF GERMAKT.
(Vol.viii., p. 170.)
"With your permission I shall enlarge the list of
mottos of the German emperors, as well bj com-
mencing^ with the Germano-Frankish era as by
supplying those omitted in the series given by
Mb. Joshua G. Fitch. My authorities are Reus-
neri St/mbola Inweratoria tribits classibua Cas,
Rom. Italic.y C, Jr. Grceconim^ C, R, Oermanico ;
and Sadeler, St/mbola divina et humana Pontificttm^
Imperatoram^ Regum, &c. :
Carol! Magni. 752. Christus regnat,^ viricit, 7;*/-
umphaL
Ludovici Pii. 814. Omnium rerum vicissitudo,
Lotharli I. 840. Ubi mel, ibifel.
Ludovici II. 855. Par sitfortuna labori.
Caroli 11. (Calvi.) 875. Jtistitiam injustitia parit.
Car oil III. (Crassl.) 881. Os garrulum intricat
omnia,
Arnulphi. 888. Facilis descensus Acerni.
Ludovici III, 899. Midtorum manuSy paiicorum
consilium.
Othonis Magni. Aut mors ant vita decora.
Othonis III. Unita virtus valet.
Henrici II. (Claudi.) Ne quid nimis.
Friderici I. (-^nobarbi.) Aliud. Qui nescit dissi-
midare nescit imperare.
Friderici II. Minarum strepitus^ asinorum crepitus.
The following is the correct reading of the words
given in Vol. viii., p. 170. : Cumplurium triari-
orum ego strepitum audivi.
Adolphi. Animm est qui divites facit.
Albert! I. Aliud. Quod optimum idem jucun^
dissimum.
Henrici VII. Aliud. Fide et consilio.
Ludovici IV. Sola bona qua honesta.
Aliud. Deo et Ccesari.*
Caroli IV. Optimum aliena insaniafrui.
Aliud. Nvllius pavet occursum.
Wenceslai. MorosopM moriones pessimi.
Aliud. Tempestati parendum.
Sifflsmiindi. Aliud. Sic cedunt munera fatis.
Alberti II. Aliud. *Fugam victoria nescit.
Friderici IIL Rerum irrecuperabilium foelix ob-
livio,
Aliud. A. E. I. O. U.
That these vow^els are supposed to signify " Aus-
trisB est imperare orbi universo " has already been
communicated in "N. & Q." Reusner has given
them another interpretation : " Aquila electa iuste
vincit omnia."
" Aliud. Hie regit, ille tuetur. Leges et arma in
promptu habes, ilia? regiint, haec tucntur imperium. A
Justiniano habet," &c. — Sadeler, p. 43.
* " Symbol um [aquila solem contra tuens] quo jam
se non tantum adversario opponit sed cum Deo parum
modcste ponit. Est quidem aquila Jovi sacra ut ad
fabulas rem revolvamus. Sed absit mihi omnis cum
Deo comparatio." — Sadeler, p. 39.
IMaximiliani I. Aliud. In mami Dei Regis ed
\cor'\.
Aliud. Per tot discrimina,
Caroli V. Alixid. Nondum in au^e [Sol].
Aliud. Fundatori quietis [laureaj*
Ferdinand!. Fiat fustitia aut pereat mundiis.
Aliud. A. I. P. Q. N. S. L A.
*' Accidit in puncto quod non speratur in anno ;
Temporis in puncto qui sapit, ille sapit."
Maximilian! II. Comminuam vel extingucttn.
{Puta semiplenam Turcarum lunwam.^
Rudolph! II. Aliud. Ex voluntate Dei omnia.,
Aliud. Sic ad astra.
Aliud. Tu ne cede malis.
In Reusner's work the raottos are accompanied
by copious and erudite comments ; and in Sade-
ler's by engravings also ; the devices or achieve-
mcnts of distinguished men, denominated in the
Italian language Imprese^ and in the Latin Sjfm^
bola Heroica. Bibliothecak. Chstham.
PHOTOGRAPHIC CORRESPONDENCE.
Simplicity of Calotype Process. — The session
of the Photographic Society was commenced with
a paper from our original correspondent, Db.
Diamond, under the above title. Our journal
having led to such facilities of question and
answer, has induced many of our readers to ask
upon several points additional instructions, some
of which we have ourselves thought might have
been made more clear ; and having written to
Dr. Diamond he has promised us a revised
copy for our next Number. Replying to some of
our Querists, he says, " The plain photographic
facts are correct ; but I wrote the paper on the
morning of the day on which the Society met, and
was not aware it was to be printed in the Jounud
until I received my copy."
Albumenized Paper. — As my only object in
writing* on this subject was to communicate to
other? the plan which I had found in practice
most successful, I think it necessary to correct
some points of misapprehension which it is evident
your correspondent K. N. M. has fallen into.
Vol. viii., p. 501.
In the process I recommended, the paper, if
cockled up, readily becomes flat and even if kept
in a portfolio or any similar receptacle ; and as I
never float my paper to sensitize it, I have not the
inconvenience of the silver solution becoming
spoiled by particles of th^ albumen. The 100
grains to the ounce for the solution I do not find
more extravagant when applied, as I have indi-
cated, with a glass rod, than one of 30 grains to
the ounce when the paper is floated, because in
the former case I use only just enough to cover
the paper, viz. forty-five minims to a half-sheet of
TiDEC. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
549
^j Canson's paper, and there is no loss from any
portion adhering to the dishes, evaporation, or
- filtering. This is far more than would be ima-
^- gined when only a sheet or two of paper is re-
— quired at one time. Lastly, with regard to the
^ strokes being visible after printing the positive, I
^. do not find them so in general, though occasionally
. - such a thing does happen when sufficient care has
not been taken in the preparation ; but I find striae
quite as visible on two positives prepared by Dr.
■■ JDiAMOND himself, which he kindly gave me : how-
■ ever, I will forward a sample of my paper for your
• judgment, and also a portion for K. N". M. if he
will take the trouble of trying the same.
Geo. Shadbolt.
New Developing Mixture. — Having for some
months past used the following developing mix-
ture, and finding it very bright and easily applied,
I beg to offer it to your notice. It does not cost
' more than three farthings per ounce, and there-
fore may be worth the consideration of beginners.
I do not know a better where the metallic appear-
ance is not desired.
2^0. 1. Pyrogallic acid - 2 grains.
Glacial acetic acid - 1 drachm.
Water - - - 1 oz.
iNo. 2. Protosulphate of iron 10 grains.
Nitric acid - - 2 drops.
Water - - - 1 oz.
To six drachms of No. 2. add two of No. 1.
I pour it on, but do not return it to the bottle, as
it is apt to spoil if so used. T. L. Merritt.
Queries on the Albumenized Process. — Allow me
to put a few questions through your valued paper.
In the albumen process on glass, Messrs. Ross
and Thomson, in Thornthwaite's Guide, recom-
mend 10 drops of sat. solution of iodized potassa
to each Qgo;^. Now is it meant ten drops, or ten
minims ? If the former, a drop varies with the
bottle and quantity of liquid in it ; and ten drops
are nearly half the bulk of ten minims, generally
speaking. Then as to the egg: an egg in this
country is only at most "6 5 ; i^i England an egg
appears twice as large. — Could you state the
general bulk of an egg in England ; and to what
quantity by bulk or weight of albumen- the 10
drops or minims are to be applied ? When I say
an egg is only 6 5? I mean the white of one.
A Subscriber.
Bombay.
an error into which I had fallen " respecting the
elm-trees at and connected with Waterloo."
I certainly was given to understand, when I
received the monody, that it was written by the
public orator on the death of his son who fell at
Waterloo : whereas it clearly appears by the obi-
tuary in the Gentleman's Magazine, that Ensign
William Crowe, first battalion, 4th foot, son of the
public orator at Oxford, was hilled at the attack
upon New Orleans, Jan. 8, 1815.
I hasten to acknowledge my mistake, though I
am glad that the two copies of verses found a
place in your columns. Braybrooke.
Richard Oswald (Vol. viii., p. 442.). — Your
Querist will find many letters to and from him in
Franklin's Memoirs. He was for some years a
merchant in the city of London. In 1759 he
purchased the estate of Auchincruive, in the
county of Ayr, and died there in 1783. No
memoir of him has ever been published. He was
for many years an intimate friend of Lord Shel-
bourne, who sent him to Paris in 1782, and again
in 1783, to negotiate with Franklin, with whom
he had been for some time acquainted. During
the Seven Years* War he acted as commissary -
general to the allied armies under the Duke of
Brunswick, who said of him in the official de-
spatches, that "England had sent him commissaries
fit to be generals, and generals not fit to be com-
missaries." J. H. E.
Poems in connexion with Waterloo (Vol. vii.,
p. 6.). — A correspondent of the Naval and Mili-
tary Gazette of November 19, 1853, signing him-
self " M. A., Pem. Coll., Oxford," has pointed out
Grammonis Marriage (Vol. viii., p. 461.). —
In one of the notes to Grammont, originally, I
believe, introduced by Sir W. Scott in his edition,
but which appears at p. 415. of Bohn's reprint, we
are told on the authority of the Biographia Gallica^
vol. i. p. 202. :
" The famous Count Grammont was thought to be
the original of The Forced Marriage. This nobleman^
during his stay at the court of England, had made love
to Miss Hamilton, but was coming away from France
without bringing matters to a proper conclusion. The
young lady's brothers pursued him, and came up with
him near Dover, in order to exchange some pistol shot
with him. They called out, ' Count Grammont, have
you forgot nothing at London ? ' * Excuse me,' an-
swered the Count guessing their errand, ' I forgot to
marry your sister ; so lead on, and let us finish that
affair.'"
My object in this communication is to supply
an omission in Mr. Steinman's very interesting
Notes, who does not show, as he might have done,
how the letters of M. de Comminges prove the
truth of this story. For, from the passage quoted
by Mr. Steinman from the letter to the king,
dated Dec. 20 — 24, 1663, it is evident that the
count was about on that day to leave England
" without bringing matters to a proper conclusion ;
while that he married the lady within a day or
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[Na 214.
two of that date ranj fstrlj be inferred from the
Minfluncement on Aug. 29 — Sept. 8, 1G64, that
"Madame In Comtcaie de Grammunt accoucha
hier au 9oir d'ua fils." Ma. STBiNUAn's umiaaiou
was probubl^ inlenttnnal ; I have Bupplied It in
the hope thut the date and place of the marriags
maj now be ascertained, and for the purpose of
expresain^.; my hope that ne shall soon be fa-
voured bj Mb. Stkimman's return to thia aub-
ject. HoBACE Walpolb, Jud.
Life (Vol. vii., p. 429.). — Let me give A. C.
the testimony of tvo poets and it philoaoplier in
support of the "n^neral feeling" about the re-
newal of life, which will surely bear down the
authority of three writers meotionsd b; him.
Cowper'it nolion may be gBthered from the
couplet :
" So numerous are the follies that annoy
The mind aod heart oFevcrj sprightly boy."
Kirke White must have bad a similar idea:
"Theie are who think that childhood do«s not share
With age the cup, the bitter cup, of care;
Alas I they know not thii unhappy truth.
That every age and rank is horn to lulh."
The next four lines may also be attentively
considered. I quote from his " Childhood," one
of his earliest productions by the way — but what
production of bis was not early?
Still more decidedly, however, on the point
speaks Cicero (de Senectute) :
" Si qui) Deua mihi largiatur ut ea hie tetnU re-
puereuam, et in cunis vagiani, caldt ruimiii."
The following pnsaage is also at A. C.'a service,
provided you can find space for it, and there are
" no questions asked " as to its whereabouts :
" I have heard them say that our childhood's hours
■re the happiest time of our earthly race; and they
apeak with regret of their summer bowers, and the
mirth they knew in the butlerHy chase; and they
■oriOH- Co think that those dsys are past, when their
young liearts bounded with lightsome glee, when, by
none of the clouJj of care o'ercast, the sun of their joy
shone cheerily. But, oh 1 they surely forget that the
boy may have grief of his own that strikes deep in his
heart; that an angry frown, or a broken toy, may
inflict for a time a cureless smart ; and that little pain
is as great to him as a weightier woe to an older mind.
Aye I the harsh reproof, or unfavoured whim, may be
■harp as a pang of a graver kind. Then, how dim-
sighted and thoughtless aie those, who would they
were frolicsome children and free; they should rather
rejoice to have flod from the woes that hung o'er them
once so heavily. In misfortune's rude shocks the
rt of fAe man may perchance disclose relief;
Muteipuia (Vdl.YAU, p.22g.)— 3'A« NameUmpL
— Besides the translation of this poem by Dr.
Hoadly, of which ■ nul« in Dodaley informs w
that the author, Holdswortb, said it was "exceed-
ingly well done," 1 have before ne another,
printed in London for K. Gosling, 1712, with an
engraved fronti.ipiece, illustrative of the triumph-
ant reception of Tatfy's invention. The depreda-
tions of the mouse are illustrated in the ^arioui
figures around, as cheeses burrowed through,
even the invasion of a sleeping Welshman's verj
tpKos ottii-Tw, &c. The title is, Tkt Mowie-Trap,
Both translations are in blank verse, but that
of the latter is ver^ blank indeed, and poMeasei
little in common with Milton's t^U, except the
absence of rhyme. It thus begins :
" Tile British mountaineer, who first uprear'd
A mouse-trap, and engoal'd the little thjef.
The deadly wiles and fate ineitricable.
Rehearse, my Muse, and, oh ) Iby preience diagn.
Auiiliar Pbcebus. moclal foe to mice:
Whence bards in ancient limes thee Smintheus
term-d," &c.
Muscipula must have made some sensation to
have been translated by two different persons.
tVelsh rabbih, and their supposed general fondness
for cheeae, have furnished many a joke at the
expense of the inhabitants of the principality.
eofhi
will h
'nealh
name of Llo^d ;
" Two gibbets dejected. L L
A cheese in full view, O
A toaster erected, Y
Ballard MSS. in the Bodleian, vol. nil. p. SO.
BereMkirii (Vol. viii^ p. 420.). — M. Pbiia-
BBiE Chaslbs has misrepresented Johh Jbbb'b
Query and conjecture about berefellarii (VoL vii.,
p. 207.). He never spoke of these officers u
" half eceleiiaatics (!), dirty, shabby, ill-washed
attendants." They were priests of an inferior
grade, answering to the minor canons of cathe-
drals, and superior to the vicars choral, who were
also called penonie and rectores chori. He has
far too great a respect for collegiate founda-
tions to use such opprobrious terms when speaking
of any clnss of ministers of divine service. The
only conjecture J. Jebb made was, that the word
might possibly have been a corruption (arising
from incorrect writing) of btnefieiarii, which is
continually used abroad for the inferior clergy of
collegiate churches, though not common in Eng-
Deo. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
lutd. It is juat poitihU, though not verj pro-
bable, tbnt this somewbiit foreign word wu mis- Kurgant
read, and ^a»e rise to a blundering corruption con-
▼ejing ludicrous ideas, the " turpenomeii" alluded
to by the Archbishop of York tempore Ric. II.
The conjectural deiivalion of the word from
Aoglo-SanoQ words was not my own, but that of
a aubsequeat correspondent. It is jusl one of
those conjectures which, like that of " Mazari-
lUeuB," may be quite as likely to be false as true.
I could suggest twenty that would be quite as
likely ; such iis bier-followera (altenders on fu-
nerals, as did the clerks and inferior clergy in ca-
thedrula), or ftMrjF/eifouw (query, burying fellows),
or beer fellows {like Ibe beerers in Dean Aldrich'a
famous catch), or belli/ JiUers, &c., or lastly, some
corruption of Beverly itself. BarefeUoii-a is aa
likely as any. Still I cannot think that these
functionaries were low or contemptible. Their
position corresponded to a very honourable status
m cathedral churches. John Jehb.
Harmony of the Four Gospeh (Vol. Tiii.,
pp. 316. 413.). — I am greatly obliged to Mb.
Hahdwick, Mb. Bdckton, and J. M. for their
valuable and satisfactory replies to my Query.
To the list of those Harmonies published since the
Beformatiou, may be added that of John Hind,
1632, under the title of
" Tlie Storie of Stories, or (he Life of Christ, bc-
eoiding to the foure holy Evnngelists : with a harmoDie
of Ihem, and a table of tlieir oliapturs and verses, col-
lected by Johan Hind. London, jirintvd b; Miles in
Fleshcr, 1632. ■'
It is dedicated to the " Lady Anne Twisden," with
whom, and her son the learned Sir Roger Twisden,
this John Hind, " a German gentleman of Meik-
lenbur^h, a most religious honest knowing man,
IWed abore thirty years," &c.
Surely Doddridge's Family Expositor should be
difFbrent people who ruled oth
: all of tb
e kind;
L region. The
added to the list.
Z. I.
PicW Howes and Argils (Vol. viii., p. 264.), —
Malte-Brun, in his Universal Oeography, English
translation, vol. vi. p. 3S7., has a passage in his
description of BuBsia which applies to this matter.
The steppes of Nogay lie immediately to the
north of the peninsula of the Crimea, both being
included ill tne Russian government of Taurida,
and both countries were formerly inhabited by
the Cimbri or Cimmerians. Malte-Brun says :
■' The colonists are in many places ill provided wiih
timber for building; they live under (he ground, and
the hillocks, which are so common in the country, and
which served in ancient times for graves or monuments
of the dead, are now converted into houses, the vaults
are changed into roo^ and beneath thera are aubtcr-
Ihese tumuli ; they are scattered throughout New
Russia; they were raised at different times by the
unlike iha rude HOrk* of (he early Hungarians, other*
■re formed of large and thin stones, like the Scandi-
nivian tombs. It is to be regretted that the diETertat
articles contained in them have been only of late yean
This does not establish the identity of the Areil
and Kurgan, but I think it shows more particular
information is likely to be met with on the sub-
ject. M. Malte-Brun, vol.vi. p. 1S2., in his de-
scription of Turkey, mentions a curious town on
the hills of the Strandschea, a. little to the west of
Constantinople. It is called Indchiguis, and ii
inhabited by Troglodytes ; its numerous dwellingg
arc cut in solid rocks, stories are formed in the
same manner, and many apartments that commu-
nicate with each other. W. H. F.
BotwelVs "Johni/m" (Vol. viii., p. 439.). —
" Crescit, occulto velot arbor ffivo,
Fama Marcelli : mlcat inter omnes
Julium sidus, velut inter ignei
Luna minores."
Hor. Carm. i. »ii. 45—48.
F. C. has overlooked the point of Boswell's re-
mark, viz. that Johnson had been " inattentive to
metre." C. Fobbbs.
Temple.
Pronunciation of " Humble" (Vol. viii., p. 393.).
— I venture once more to trespass on your pages,
the hope of helping to settle the right pronun-
ciation of hvmble. In the controversy respecting
it, the derivation of the word should not be over-
looked, as it is a most important point ; for I con-
sider that the improper use of the h has arisen
from people not knowing from whence the word
was taken. Now, as I am of opinion that it will
go far lo prove that the h should be silent in
humble, by giving a list of the radical words in the
English language in which that letter is silent,
and their derivations, I beg to do bo ; premising
that they are derived from the Celtic language, in
which the h is not used in the same m_anner that
it is in other languages :
Heir, from oigeir, i. e. the young man who suc-
ceeds to a property : the word is pronounced air.
Honetl, from oinnicteac, i. e. just, liberal, gene-
rous, kind.
Honour, from onoir, i. e. praise, respect, worship.
Hour, from uair, pronounced voir, i. e. time
time,
itvly, obedient, sub-
Humonr. The derivation of this word is ob-
scure, but in the sense of mirth it may be derived
from uaim-mir, i. e. loud mirth, gaiety.
The compounds formed from these words have
the A silent ; and every other word beginning with
652
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[No. .214.
that letter should have it fully sounded. Such
being my practice, I cannot be accused of culti-
vating the Heapian dialect^ which I hold to be
equally abominable with the improper use of the
letter h, Fbas. Cbosslet.
May not the following be the true solution of
the question ? All existing humility is either pride
or hypocrisy ; pride aspirates the A, hypocrisy
suppresses it. I always aspirate. M.
Continuation of Robertson (Vol. viii., p. 515.).
— The supplementary volume proposed by Mr.
TuBNBUiiL, which is wanted extremely, was never
published, owing to the fact that eighty subscribers
could not be found to indemnify him for the ex-
pense of printing. G.
Nostradamus (Vol. vii., p. 174.). — My edition
of Nostradamus^ 1605 (described in "N. & Q.,"
Vol. iv., p. 140.), has the quotation in question ;
but the first line has "le sang du juste," not "le
sang du jusse."
The ed. of 1605 is undoubtedly genuine. Be-
sides the twelve centuries of prophecies, it contains
141 " Presages tirez de ceux faits par M. Nostra-
damus," and fifty-eight " Predictions admirables
pour les ans courans en ce Siecle, recueillies des
memoires de feu M. Nostradamus," with a dedica-
tion to Henry IV. of France, " par Vincent Seve,
de Beaucaire, 19 Mars, 1605." R. J. R.
Quantity of Words (Vol. viii., p. 386.). — Anti-
Babbabus need not say we always pronounce
Candace long, for I have never heard it otherwise
than short. Labbe says it should be short, and
classes it with short terminations in acus ; but I
am not aware that, there is any poetical authority
for it. Canace and canache are both short in
Ovid ; all which may have helped to the inference
for Candace, Facciolati has an adjective canddcuSf
to which I refer your correspondent. AV. Hazel.
*^ Man proposes, hut God disposes^* (Vol. viii.,
p. 411.). — This saying is older than the age of
Thomas ^ Kempis, who was born about a.d. 1380.
It probably originated in two passages of Holy
Scripture, on one or both of which it may have
been an ancient comment :
** Hominis est animam prasparare, et Domini guber-
nare linguam." " Cor hominis disponit viam suam,
sed Domini est dirigere giessus ejus." — Proverbs xvi,
1. 10.
The sentiment in both is the same, and their
pith is given in a still more brief and condensed
form in our own proverb. It is remarkable that
while Dr. A. Clarke, in his notes on Proverbs xvi.,
has quoted it without reference to its authorship
in the edition of Stanhope's version of De Imita-
Hone Christi, which I happen to have, it is not to
be found ; but its place (according to your corre-
spondent's reference) is occupied by the tivo texts
above quoted. The work referred to is asserted
by some to have been only translated or tran-
scribed by a Kempis, and written by John Gerson,
Chancellor of the University of Paris, a great
theologian, who died in 1429. Be that as it may,
I can assure your correspondent A. B. C. that the
saying in question did not originate with the author
of that work. In Piers Ploughman's Vision^
written a.d. 1362, it is thus introduced:
" And Spiritus justiticB
Shall juggen, wol he nele he {will he nil he /)
After the kynges counseil,
And the coraune like.
And Spiritus prudentice,
In many a point shall faille.
Of that he weneth will falle.
If his wit ne weerc.
Wenynge is no wysdom,
Ne wys ymaginacion.
Homo proponity et Deus disponit.
And governeth alle good vertues."
Vol. ii. p. 427., 11. 13984-95. Ed. London :
W. Pickering, 1842.
In the same way the author frequently intro-
duces Latin texts from the Bible, and other books
of authority and devotion. In the notes the
editor generally refers to the place from whence
the quotation is taken ; but as there is no re-
ference in connexion with the present passage, I
infer that he was not aware of its source.
J. W. Thomas.
Dewsbury.
Polarised Light (Vol. viii., p. 409.). — I am
unable to furnish H. C. K. with knowledge from
the fountain-head touching this phenomenon. On
referring, however, to a little work, much valued
in my boyish days, I find it thus mentioned :
** Tlie blue light of the sky is completely polarised
at an angle of seventy- four degrees from the sun, in a
plane passing through the sun*s centre." — P. 219.
Newtonian Philosophy, by Tom Telescope : Tegg, Lond.
1838.
Surely the Herschels mention this. R. C. Wabde.
Kidderminster.
NOTES ON BOOKS, ETC.
The attempt to establish a Surrey Archcsological
Society has at length proved successful. Upwards of
one hundred and seventy Members have already joined
the Society. The Duke of Norfolk has accepted its
Presidency, and the Earl of Ellesmere, the Bishop of
Winchester, and Lord Viscount Downe, are among the
number of its Vice-Presidents. The Society has good
work before it, and we trust will set about it in a way to
Dec. 3. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
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46. Addison Road North, Notting Hill ; from whom
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Proceedings for 1 852 is now before us, and affords satis-
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of which it numbers nearly fiye hundred, are by no
means diminished. The papers and the illustrations of
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The want of a collection of the early antiquities of
this country has long been the greatest reproach which
foreigners have been able to make against the British
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known and probably unique collection. The Faussett
Museum, Strange to say, that offer was declined : but,
as a communication from the Society of Antiquaries
strongly urging the propriety of a reconsideration of
this decision— so that an opportunity which may never
recur may not be lost — has been addressed to the
trustees, we still hope that the Faussett Museum will
yet fill the empty cases at Great Russell Street, and
form, as it is well calculated to do, the nucleus of a
national collection of our own national antiquities. We
understand Mr. Wylie has most liberally offered to
present his valuable Fairford Collections to the Mu-
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KoTEs:--
Original Royal Letters to the Grand Masters or Malta,
by William Wintlirop - - - - -
Fenny Siglits and Extiihitions in tlie Reign of James I.,
by A. Grayan .-----
Tlie Impossibilities of our Forefathers - - -
Parallel Passages, by the Heir. John Ooolier -
Astrology in America « - - - -
SliNOR Notes : — ** Hierosolyma est perdita **— Quaint
Inscription in a Beifry — The Chronicles of the Kings
of Israel and Judah— The Using a Circumstance as
a " Pep," or " Nail,*' to hang an Argument on, *c. —
Turkish and Russian Grammars — Chronograms in
Sicily— Stone Pulpits — Advertisements and Pro-
spectuses - - - - - -
Page
- 557
558
559
560
661
. 561
^Queries : —
English Refugees at Ypenstein
- 562
HiNOR QuBRiER : — Pe' rarcli's Laura — " F.pitaphium
Lucretiae " — M'Dowall Family — Arms of Geneva —
Webb of Monckton Farleigh— Tran»laiion Wanted —
Latin Translation from Sheridan, &c — Gale of Rent
Arms of Sir Richard de Loges — Gentile Names of
the Jews — Henry, Earl of Wotton — Kicker-eating
Chadderton of Nuthurst, co. Lancashire — George,
Jfirst Viscount Lauesborough, and Sir Charles Cot-
terell— "Firm was their taith," &c. — The Mother
of William the Conqueror — Pedigree of Sir Francis
Bryan - - - - - - - 562
IdiNOR Qdbries with Answers : — " The Whole Duty
of Man " — •* It rained cats and dogs and little pitch-
forks : " Helter-skelter — Father Traves— Precise
Dates of Births and Deaths of the Pretenders —
Clarence ------
- 564
TReplibs : —
Mackey's " Theory of the Earth "
Sincere, Simple, Singular -
Poetical Tavern Signs
Homo Unius I^ibri - - -
The Forlorn Hope, by W. R. Wilde
Tleck's " Comoedia Divina "
Liveries worn by Gentlemen
- 565
- 567
. 5ti8
- 6f9
- 669
- 570
- 571
Photographic Correspondence. — Queries on Dr.
Diamond's Calotype Process — Albumenized Paper - 572
Ueplies to Minor Queries:— Marcarnes — X on
Brewers* Casks — No Sparrows at Lindham — Theo-
bald le Botiller — Vault at Richmond, Yorkshire —
Lord Audley's Attendants at Poictiers — Portraits
at Brickwall House — The Words " Mob " and
" Cash"— English Clergyman In Spain — The Cld
— Exterior Stoups — Green Jugs used Hy the Tem-
plars — " Peccavi," I have Scinde — Raffaele's *' Spo-
salizio " — Rarl)r Use of Tin: Derivation of the
Name of Britain — Unpublished Epigram by Sir
Walter Scott — Derivation of the Word " HunibuK "
— Bees— Topsy Turvy— Parish Clerks and Politics, &c. 572
>[l8CELLANBOU8 : —
Notes on Books, &c.
Books and Odd Volumes wanted -
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisements . - .
- 577
- 578
- 578
- 578
Vol. VIIL — No.215.
I
ORIGINAL ROYAL LETTERS TO THE GRAND MASTERS
OF MALTA.
(Continued from p. 99.)
In my first communication I did myself the
pleasure to send you a correct list of all the royal
letters which had been sent by different English
monarchs to the Grand Masters of Mnlta, with
their dates, the languages in which they were
written, and stating to whom they were addressed.
I now purpose to forward with your permission
from time to time, literal translations of these
letters, which Mr. Strickland of this garrison has
kindly promised to give me. The subjoined are
the first in order, and have been carefully com-
pared, by Dr. Vella and myself, with the originals
now in the Record Office.
No. 1.
Henry by the grace of God, King of England and
France, Defender of tlie Faith, and Lord of
Ireland, to the Rev. Father in Christ, Philip
Villiers de L'isle Adam, Grand Master of the
Order of Jerusalem.
Our most dear friend — Greeting :
The venerable and religious men, Sir Thomas
Docreus, Prior of St. John's in this kingdom, and
Sir W. Weston of your convent, Turcoplerius,
have lately delivered to us the epistle of your
Reverence, and when we had read it, they laid
before us the commission which they had in charge,
with so much prudence and address, and recom-
mended to us the condition, well being, and ho-
n'»ur of their Order with so much zeal and
aff«'Ction, that they have muoh increased the good
will, which of ourselves we feel towards the Order,
and have made us more eager in advancing all its
affairs, so that we very much hope to declare by
our actions the affection which wc feel towards
this Older.
An<l ihat we might give some proof of this our
dispo8iti<»n. we have written at great length to His
Imperial Majesty, \n favour of maintaining the od-
cupation of Malta, and we have given orders to
our envoys there to help forward this affair as
tuuch as they are able. The other matters, indeed.
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NOTES AND QUEEIESw
[No. 215.
?'Our Reverence vriti learn more in detail from the
etters of the sai(] Prior.
From our Palace at Richmond,
Eighth day of January, 1523,
Your good friend,
Henrt Rex.
No. II.
Henry by the grace of God, Kin^ of England and
France, Defender of the Faith, and Lord of
Ireland, to the Rev. Father in Christ, Philip
Yilliers de L*Isle Adam, Grand Master of the
Order of Jerusalem.
Our most dear friend — Greeting :
By other of our letters we have commended to
your Reverence our beloved Sir W. Weston, Tur-
coplerius, and the whole Order of Jerusalem in
our kingdom ; but since we honour the foresaid
Sir W. Weston with a peculiar affection, we have
judged him worthy that we should render him
more agreeable and more acceptable to your Re-
verence, by this our renewed recommendation ;
and we trust that you will have it the more easily
in your power to satisfy this our desire, because,
on account of the trust which you yourself placed
in him, you appointed him special envoy to our-
selves in behalf of the affairs of his Order, and
showed that you honoured him with equal good
will. We therefore most earnestly entreat your
Reverence not to be backward in receiving him on
liis return with all possible oflSces of love, and to
serve him especially in those nnitters which regard
his office of Turcoplerius, and his Mastership.
Moreover, if any honours in the gift and disposal
of your Reverence fall due to you, with firm con-
fidence we beg of you to vouchsafe to appoint and
promote the foresaid Sir William Weston to the
same, which favour will be so pleasing and ac-
ceptable to us, that when occasion offers we will
endeavour to return it not only to your Reverence,
but also to your whole Order. And may every
happiness attend you.
From our Pulace at Windsor,
First day of August, 1524,
Your good friend,
Henry Rex.
No. III.
Henry by the grace of God, King of England and
France, Defender of the Faith, and Lord of
Ireland, to the Rev. Father in Christ, Philip
Yilliers de L'IsIe Adam, Grand Master of the
Order of Jerusalem.
Our most dear friend — Greeting :
Ambrosius Layton, our subject, atid brother of
the same Order, has delivered to us your Re-
Terence*8 letter, and from it we very well under-
stand the matters concerning the said Order,
which your Reverence had committeii to bis
charge to be delivered to us ; but we have delayed
to return an answ^, and we still delay, because
we have understood that a general Chapter of
your whc^e Order will be held in a short time, to
which we doubt not that the more prudent and
experienced of the brethren of the Order will
come, and we trust that, by the general wish and
ccmnsel of all of you, a place may be selected for
this illustrious Order which may be best suited
for the imperial support an<l advancement of the
Republic, and for the assailing of the infidels.
AVhen therefore your Reverence shall have made
us acquainted with the place selected for the said
Chapter, you shall find us no less prompt and
ready than any other Christian prince m all things
which can serve to the advantage and support of
the said Order.
From our Palace at Richmond,
Fourth day (month omitted), 1526,
Your good friend,
Hbiikt R«c.
That the subject of the above letters may be
better understood, it may be necessary to state
that L*Isle Adam was driven out of Rhcides by the
Sultan Solyman, after a most des|)erate and san-
guinary struggle, which continued almost without
intermission from the 26(h of June to the 18th of
December, 1523. From this date to the month of.
October, 1530, nearly seven years, the Order of
St. John of Jerusalem had no fixed residence, and
the Grand Master was a wanderer in Italy, either
in Rome, Viterbo, Naples, or Syracuse, while
begging of the Christian Powers to assist hini in
recovering Rhodes, or Charles V. to give him
Malta as a residence for his convent. It was
during this period that the above letters, and
some others which I purpose sending hereafter,
were written. Wijujam WiHTHaop.
FENNT SIGHTS AND EXHIBITIONS IN THS BBION
OF JAMBS I.
The following curious list may amuse some
of your readers. I met with it among the host
of panegyri<!al verses prefixed to Master Tom
Coryate*s Crudities, published in 1611. £v«*n in
those days it will be aihuitted that the English
were rather fond of such things, and glorious
Will himself bears testimony to the fact. (See
Tempest, Act II. Sc. 2.) Tlie hexameter verses
are anonymous ; perhaps one of your well-read
antiquaries may be able to assign to them the
author, and be disposed to annotate tliein. I
would particularly ask when was Drake's ship
broken up, and is there any date on the chair *
made from the wood, which is now to be seen at
the Bodleian Library, Oxford ?
** Why doe the rude vulgar so hastily post in a mad*
nesse
To jraze at trifles, and toyes not worthy the viowing ?
[* l*he date to Cowley's Iimb on the ehair is l6dS.]
J>MC. 10. 1853.]
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M9
And ihinke them happy, when may be shew*d for a
penny
The Fleet-streete Mandrakes, that heavenly motion
of Eltham,
Westminster Monuments, and Guildhall huge Co-
rinsus,
That home of Windsor (of an Unicorne very likely),
The cave of Merlin, the skirts of Old Tom a Lin-
eolne,
Kin{; John's sword at Linne, with the cup the Fra-
ternity drinke in,
The tombe of Beauchampe, and sword of Sir Guy a
Warwicke,
The great long Dutchman, and roaring Marget a
Bar wick e.
The mummied Princes, and Caesar's wine yet i*
Dover,
Saint James his ginney-hens, the Cassawarway*
moreover.
The Beaver i* the Parke (strange Beast as e*er any
man saw),
Do^vne-shearing Willowes with teeth as sbarpe as a
hand -saw.
The latice of John a Gaunt, and Brandon's still i'
the Tower,
The fall of Ninive, with Norwich built in an hower.
King Henries slip-shoes, the sword of valiant Ed-
ward,
The Coventry Boares-shield, and fire-workes seen
but to bedward,
Drake's ship at Detford, King Richard's bed-sted
i' Leyster,
Tiie Wliite Hall Whale-bones, the silver Bason i*
Chester ;
The live-caught Dog-fish, the Wolfe, and Harry the
Lyon,
Hunks of the Beare Garden to be feared, if he be
nigh on.
All these are nothing, were a thousand more to be
scanned,
(Coryate) unto thy shoes so artificially tanned."
In explanation of the last line, Tom went no
less than 900 miles on one pair of soles, and on
his return he hunt; up these remarkable shoes for
a nieniorial in Odcombe Church, Somersetshire,
■where they remained till 1702.
Another " penny " sight was a trip to the top
of St. Paul's. (See Dekker*B Gur;i Borne Book,
1609.) A. Gratan.
THB IMPOS8IBIIJTIE8 OF OUR F0RBVATHBR8.
In turning over the pages of old authors, it is
amusing to note how the mountains of our primi-
tive ancestors have become mole^hilU in the hands
of the present genenition ! A few instances would,
I think, be very instructive ; and, to set the ex-
* '* An East Indian bird at Saint James, in the
keepin<r of Mr. Walker, that will carry no eoalcs, but
este thamjM whot as you wilL"
ample, I give you the following from mj own
note-book.
The Overland Jowmey to India, — From tibe
days of Sir John Mandeville, until a comparative
recent period, how portentous of danger, iSim^
culty, and daring has been the '^ Waye to Yade
wyih the Maruelyes thereof!"
In Lingua^ or the Combat of the Tongue, \pf
Brewer, London, 1657, originally pubUsbed m
1607, Heursis complains that Phantaaes had inter*
rupted his cogitations upon three things wluob
had troubled his bruin for many a day :
** Phant. Some great matters questionless ; what ircie
they?
Beur, The quadrature of the circle^the philosophcrV
stone, and the next way to the Imdua,
Phant. Thou dost well to meditate on these thi^fs
all at once, for they'll be found out altogether, mi
gracoB c€Uenda$,**
Dr. Robertson's Disqnmtion on the Knowledge
the Ancients had of Indioy shows that communi-
cations overland existed from a remote period ;
and we know that the East India Company had
always a route open for their dispatches on
emer<rent occasions ; but let the reader consult
the Reminiscences of Dr. Dibdin, and he will find
an example of irs utter uselessness when resorted
to in 1776 to apprize the Home Government of
hostile movements on the part of an enemy. T\>
show, however, in a more striking light, the dif-
ference between the "overland route" a century
back, an<l that of 1 853, I turn up the Journal of
Bartholomew PUdsted: London, 1757. This gen-
tleman, who was a servant of the East India Com-
pany, tells us that he embarked at Calcutta i&
1749 for Enj^lnnd; and, after encountering many
dilficulties, reached Dover via Bussorah, Aleppo
and Marseilles in twelve months ! Bearing tois
in mind, let the reader refer to the London daily
papers of this eit^hth day of November, 1853, and
he will find that intelligence reached the city on
that afternoon of the arrival at Trieste of tlie
Calcutta steamer, furnishing us with telegrajdi^
advices from —
Bengal, Oct. 3.
Bombay, Oct. 14. -
Hong Kong, Sept. 27.
36 days !
25 days ! f
46 days! If
Rapid as this is, and strikingly as it exemplifies"
the gigantic appliances of our day, the cry of
Heursis in the play is still for the next, or a nearer
roay to India ; nnd, besides the Ocean Mail, the
mM<inificent sailing vessels, and the steamers of
fabulous dimensions said to be building fur ike
Cape route to perform the passage from London
to Calcutta in thirty diiys, we are promised the
electric telegraph to furnish us with hews from the
above-named ports in a less number of hours tbaii
days DOW occupied !
S60
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 216.
We have thus seen that the impetus once given,
it is impossible to limit or foresee where this ten-
dency to knit us to the farthermost parts of the
world will end !
" Steam to India" was nevertheless almost
stifled at its birth, and its early process sadly
fettered and retarded by those whose duty it was
to have fostered and encouraged it — I mean the
East India Company. From this censure of a
body I would exclude some of their servants in
India, and particularly a name that may be new
to your readers in connexion with this subject,
that of the late Mr. Charles F. Greenlaw of Cal-
cutta, to whom I would ascribe all honour and
glory as the great precursor of the movement,
subsequently so triumphantly achieved by the
Peninsular and Oriental Company. This gentle-
man, at the head of the East India Company^s
Marine Establishment in Bengal, brought all the
enthusiasm of his character to bear upon the ques-
tion of steam via the Red Sea; and raised such an
agitation in the several Presidencies, that the slow
cocLch in Leadenhall Street was compelled to move
on, and Mr. Greenlaw lived to see his labours
successful. Poor Greenlaw was as deaf as a post,
and usually carried on his arm a flexible pipe,
with an ivory tip and mouth-piece, through which
he received the communications of his friends.
How often have I seen him, after an eloquent ap-
peal on behalf of his scheme, hand this to the
party he would win over to his views : and if the
responses sent through it were favourable, he was
delighted; but, if the contrary, his irascibility
knew no bounds ; and snatching his pipe from the
mouth of the senseless man who could not see the
value of " steam for India," he would impatiently
coil it round his arm, and, with a recommendation
to the less sanguine to give the subject the atten-
tion due to its importance, would whisk himself
off to urge his pomt in some other quarter ! I
have already said that Mr. Greenlaw lived to see
the overland communication firmly established;
and his fellow citizens, to mark their high esti-
mation of his character, and the unwearied appli-
cation of his energies in the good cause, have
embellished their fine "Metcalfe Hall" with a
marble bust of thb best of advocates for the in-
terests of India. J. O.
PABALLEL PASSAGES.
[(Vol. viii., p. 372.)
'* Adopting the suggestion of F. W. J., I con-
tribute the following parallel passages towards the
<5ollection which he proposes :
1. " And He said unto them, Take heed and beware
of covetousness, for a man's life consisteth not in the
abundance of the things which he possesseth.'* —
Luke zii. ] 5.
** Non posRidentem multa vocaveris
Recte beatum ; rectius occupat
Nomen beati, qui Deorum
Muneribus sapienter uti,
Duramquc callet pauperiem pati ;
Pejusque leto flagitium timet.**
lAor, Carm^ lib. iv. ode ix.
2. '* For that which I do I allow not : for what I
would that do I not ; but what I hate that do I.**—
Rom. vii. 15.
" Sed trahit invitam nova vis ; aliudque Cupido,
Mens aliud suadet. Video meliora, proboque :
Deteriora sequor.**
Ovid, Metam,, lib.vii. 19-21.
" Qu2e nocuere sequar, fugiam quas profore credam.**
Hor„ lib. I. epist. viii. 11.
3. <* Without father, without mother, without de-
scent," &c. — Heb. vii. 3.
<* Ante potestatem Tulli atque ignobile regnum,
Multos saepe viros, nullis majoribus ortos
Et vixisse probos," &c. — Hor. Sat, u vi. 9.
4. ** For I have said before, that ye are in our hearts
to die and live with you " — 2 Cor. vii. 3.
** Tecum vivere amem, tecum obeam libens.**
Hor. Carm., lib. in. ir.
5. ** Let us eat and drink, for to-morrow we die." —
I Cor. XV. 32.
" Convivae certc lui dicunt, Bibamus moriendum est."
Senec Controo. ziv.
6. ** Be not thou afraid though one be made rich, or
if the glory of his house be increased ; for he shall carry
nothing away with him when he dieth, neither shall his
pomp follow him." — Ps. xlix. 16, 17.
" How loved, how honoured once, avails thee not ;
To whom related, or by whom begot :
A heap of dust alont* remains of thee.
*Tis all thou art, and all the proud shall be.**
Pbpe.
** Divesne. prisco natus ab Inacho,
Nil interest, an pauper, et infima
De gente sub divo moreris
Victima nil miserantis Orci."
Hor. Ccurm,^ lib. ii. iii.
The following close parallelism between Ben
Jonson and Horace, though a little wide of your
correspondent's suggestion, is also worthy of no-
tice. I have never before seen it remarked upon.
It would, perhaps, be more correct to describe it
as a plagiarism than as a parallelism :
« Mosca, And besides. Sur,
You are not like the thresher that doth sUnd
With a huge flail, watching a herp of corn.
And, hungry, dares not taste the smallest grain,
But feeds on mallows, and such liitter herbs;
Nor like the merchant, who haih fille'l his vaults
With Romagnia, and rich Candian wines,
Yet drinks the lees of Lombard's vinegar :
You will lie not in straw, whilst moths and worms
Dec. 10. 1853.]
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561
Feed on your sumptuous hangings and sofl beds ;
You knoiy the use of riches." — Bun Jonsou, The Fox,
** Si quis ad ingentem frumenti semper acervum
Prorectus vigilet cum longo fuste, neque illinc
Audeat esurieiis dominus coutingere granum,
Ac potlus foliis parens vescatur amaris :
Si, positis intus Cliii veterisque Falerni
Mille cadis — nihil est, tercentum millibus, acre
Potet acetum ; age, si et-stramentis incubet, unde —
Octoginla annos natus, cui stragula vestis,
Biattarum ac tiuearum epulse, putrescat in area."
Hor. Sat.f lib. ii. iii.
John Boo&eb.
Prestwich.
ASTBOLOGY IN AMERICA.
The six following advertisements are cut from
a recent Number of the New York Herald:
" Madame Morrow, seventh daughter of a seventh daughter,
and a descendant of a line of astrologers reaching back for cen-
turies, will give ladies private lectures on all the events of life, in
regard to health, wealih, love, courtship, and marriage. She is
-without exception the most wonderful astrologist in the world,
or that has ever been known. She will even tell their very
thoughts, and will show them the likenesses of their intended
husbands and absent friends, which has astonished thousands
during her travels in Europe. Siie will leave the city in a very
short time. 76. Broome Street, between Cannon and Columbia.
Gentlemen are not admitted."
** Madame la Compt flatters herself that she is competent, by
her great experience in the art of astrology, to give true inform-
ation in regard to the past, present, and future. She is able to
see clearly any losses ner visitors may have sustained, and will
five satisfactory information in regard to the way of recovery,
he has and continues to give perfect satisfaction. Ladies and
gentlemen 50 cents. 13. Howard Street."
*' Mad. la Compt has been visited by over two hundred ladies
and gentlemen the pait week, and has given perfect satisfaction ;
and, in consideration of the great patronage bestowed upon her,
»he will remain at 13. Howard Street for four days more, when
«he will positively sail fur the South."
"Mrs. Alwin, renowned in Europe for her skill in foretelling
the future, has arrived, and will furnish intelligence about all
circumstances of life. Slie interprets dreams, law matters, and
love, by astrology, books, and science, and tells to ladies and
gentlemen the name of the persons they will marry ; also the
names of her visitors. Mrs. Alwin speaks the English, French,
and German languages. Residence, 25. Rivington Street, up
stairs, near the Bowery. Ladies 60 cents, gentlemen 1 dollar."
"Mrs. Prewster, from Philadelphia, tenders her services to
the ladies and gentlemen of this city in astrology, love, and law
matters, interpreting dreams, &c., by books and science, con-
stantly relied on by Napoleon ; and will tell the name of the lady
or gentleman they will marry ; also the names of the visitors.
Residence, No. 59. Great Jones Street, corner of the Bowery.
Liadies 50 cents, gentlemen 1 dollar."
" The celebrated Dr. F. Shuman, Swede by birth, just arrived
In this city, offers his services hi astrology, physiognomy, &c.
He can be consulted on matters of love, marriage, p;i8t, present,
and future events in life. Nativity calculated for ladies and
gentlemen. Mr. S. has travelled through the greater part of the
world in the last forty two years, and is willing to give the most
satisfactory information. Office, 175. Chambers Street, near
Greenwich."
*'^ Hierosolyma est perdita^ — Whilst studying in
Germany, I remember seeing one day some Jews
in a great passion because a few little boys had
been shouting " Hep ! hep ! " On information I
heard, that whenever the German knights headed
a Jew-hunt in the Middle Ages, they always
raised the cry " Hep I hep ! " This is remem-
bered even to the present day. Henbi yan Laun,
King William's College, Isle of Man.
Quaiiil Inscription in a Belfry. — I think the fol-
lowing unique piece of authorship deserves, for its
quaint originality, a corner in " N. & Q." It is
copied from an inscription dated Jan. 31, 1757, in
the belfry of the parish church of Fenstanton,
Hunts :
"January y« 31, 1757.
Hear was ten defran*
Peals Rung in 50 min-
utes which is 1200,
Changes by thouse,
names who are Under;
1. Jn» Allin
2. Jm" Brown
3. Jno. Cade
4. Rob* Cole
5. Will" How."
" All you young Men y* larn y« Ringen Art,
Besure you see & will perform your part*
no Musick with it Can Excell.
nor be compared to y« Melodeus belb,"
Perhaps I may as well add that this is a faithful
copy of the original inscription, both in ortho-
graphy and punctuation. W. T. Watts.
St. Ives, Hunts.
The Chronicles of the Kings of Israel and Judak,
— After the many conjectures which have been
formed respecting the D^DST nm IDD of the kings
of Israel and Judah, allow me to suggest the pro-
bability of their bearing some resemblance to the
records of the ** wars " and " might " of the mon-
archs of Assyria, recently brought to light by
Mr. Layard. «•
The Using a Circumstance as a " Peg,'' or " iVai7,''
to hang an Argument on, §-c. — In the parliament-
ary debates we frequently read of one honor-
able member accusing another honorable membei^
of dragging in a certain expression or quotation
for the mere sake of hanging upon it some argu-
ment or observation apposite to his motion or
resolution. — Query, The origin of this term ?
My attention was drawn to it by reading the
First Lesson at Morning Prayer for 25 th May,
viz. Ezra ix. 8., where the expression means some-
thing to hold by, or some resting-place.
In the following verse, the term is changed into
" a wall," meaning some support or help. ^ .
Has this passage ever challenged the attentipn
of any of your numerous readers, or can the com-
mon saying fairly be referred to it ? Anon.
Norwood.
Tw^kish and Russian Grammars, — At the
present moment it may be found interesting to
make a note of it for " N. & Q.,*' that the fir^t
462
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[No. 215.
Turkish and Russian grammars published in this
country appeared at Oxford ; the Turkish, by
Leaman, in 1670, and the Russian, by Ludulf, in
1696. Both are written in Latin. J. M.
Oxford.
Chronograms in Sicily. — After the opening of
4lie gold mines at Fiume-di-Nisi, which are now
being reworked^ the Messinese struck coins bear-
ing the motto —
«« eX VlsCerlbVs Mels haeC fVnDItVr."
Giving xvicivMicvDiv. 1734 ?
On a fountain near the church of St. Francesco
<li Faola :
« D. O. M.
Imperante Carlo VI., Vicregente Comite de Palma,
Gubernante Civitatem Comite de Wallis.
P. P. P.
Vt action lb Vs nostrls IVste proCeDaMVs.*'
Which gives vcnviivcDMV. 1724.
The death of Charles, Infanta of Spain, is thus
indicated :
« FILIVs ante DIeM patrloa InqVIrIt In annos."
1568. G. E. T. S. R. N.
Stone Pulpits, — A complete list of ancient stone
pulpits in England and Wales would be desirable.
Their positions should be specified ; and whether
in use or not, should be stated. I have seen the
following :
Nantwich, Cheshire ; at the junction of north
transept and chancel (not used).
Bristol Cathedral ; adjoining one of the north
{Mllars of nave (not used).
Wolverhampton Collegiate Church; adjoining
one of south pillars of nave (in use ?)
T. H. Eebslet, B.A.
Audlem, Nantwich.
Advertisements and Prospectuses, — It is, I be-
lieve, the custom for the most part to make waste-
pKpcr of the advertisements and prospectuses that
^*e usually stitched up, in considerable numbers,
with the popular reviews and magazine*). Now,
4UI these a<lventitious sheets often contain scraps
and fragments of contemporaneous intelligence,
literary and bibliographical, with occasional artis-
tic illustrations, would it not be well to preserve
them, and to bind them up in a separate form at
the end of the year ; connecting them with the
particular review or magazine to which they be-
longed, but describing also the contents of the
volume by a distinct lettering-piece ?
If the work of destruction of such frail, but
frequently interesting records, should go on at
tlie present rate, posterity will be in danger of
losing many valuable data respecting the stat€ of
British literature at different periods, as depicted
by a humbler class of documents, employed by it
for the diffusion of its copious productions.
John Macbat.
tfturrM.
ENGLISH BEFUGBES AT TPBNSTBIir.
When I was at Alkmaar about thirty years ago, I
strolled to the neighbouring village of Heilri, on the
road to Limmen, where I saw, surrounded bja moat,
the foundations of the castle of Ypenstein. A view
of this once noble pile is to be found in the well-
known work of Rademaker, Kabinet van Neder^
landsche en Kleefsche Oudheden. This place, as
tradition tells, once witnessed the perpetration of
a violent deed. When the son of the unfdrtunate
Charles I. was an exile in our country, this bouse
Ypenst«in was occupied by a family of Bnglisfa:
emigrants, high in rank, who lived here for a while
in quiet. How far these exiles were even heref
secure from the spies of Cromwell appeared on a
certain dark night, after a suspicious vessel had
been seen from the village of Egmond, when an
armed band of the Protector's Puritans, led by
a guide, marched over the heath to the house
Ypenstein, seized all the inhabitants, and carried
them off, by the way they had come, to the coast^
put them on board, and transported them most
probably to England. In such secresy and silence
was this violation of territory and the rights of
hospitality perpetrated, that no one in the neigh-
bourhood perceived anything of the occurrence,
except a miller who saw the troop crossing the
pathless heath in the direction of the coast, bat
could not conceive what had brought so many
persons together in such a place at midnight.
I would gladly learn whether anything is known
of this transaction ; and if so, where I may find
farther particulars of this English family, their
probable political importance, &c To investi^^ate
the truth of this tradition, that we may acquit or
convict the far-famed Cromwell of so fool aorime^
cannot certainly be untimely, now that two oele-
brated learned men have undertaken to Tittdieate
his memory. — From the Navorscker.
LlQUABBIXOB.
Minav €iutxM*
PetrarcVs Launu -— Mr. Mathews, in his Diaty
of an Invalid in Italy, Sfc., p. 380., in speaking
of the outrages and indignities which, during the
Revolution, were committed throughout France
on the remains of the dead, and were amongst the
most revolting of its horrors, mentions, on the
authority of a fellow-passenger, an eye-witness,
that the body of Petrarch's Laura had been seen
exposed to the most brutal indiffnities in the
streets of Avignon. He told Mr. Mathews tiiat
Dec. 10. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
56a
it had been embalmed, and was found in a mummy
state, of a dark brown colour. I have not met
with any mention of these circumstances else-
where. Laura is stated to have died of the plague
(which seems to render it unlikely that her body
was embalmed); and, according to Petrarch*s
famous note on his MS. of Virgil, she was buried
the same day, after vespers, in the church of the
Cordeliers. The date was April 1, 1348. That
church was long celebrated for her tomb, which
contained also the body of Hugues de Sade, her
husband. The edifice is stated to be ruined, its
very site being converted into a fruit- garden;
but the tomb is said to be still entire under the
^*ound ; and more than twenty years after the
French Revolution, a small cypress was pointed
out as marking the spot where Laura was interred.
Is the circumstance of the desecration of her
tomb mentioned by any other writer ? If it really
took place, are we to conclude that the tree — if it
still exists — marks only the place where she had
been interred : for, that the body was rescued and
recommitted to the tomb, can hardly be supposed?
Wm. Sidney Gibson.
*^ Epitaphium Lucreticey — The following lines
are offered for insertion, not because I dou|^t their
being known to many of your readers, but with a
view to ask the name of the author :
** Epitaphium Lucretice,
Dum foderet ferro tenerum Lucretia pectus
Sanguinis et torrens egrederetur : ait,
* Accedant testes me non cessisse tyianno
' Ante virutn sanguis, spiritus ante Decs.'*'
Balliolensis.
M^Dowall Family, — More than a century ago
there was a family (since extinct) of the name of
M*Dowall, in the county Cavan, Ireland, belong-
ing to some branch of the ancient and noble Scot-
tish family of that name, who had mi«rrated to
these shores. Perhaps some of your readers could
inform me as to what branch they belonged, and
when they settled in Ireland, as also if there be
any pedigree of them extant, as I am very anxious
to learn something of them at all events ?
GULIELMUS.
Dublin.
Arms of Geneva, — Will atiy of your corre-
spondents oblige nie with a technical blazon of the
arms of the town of Geneva ? F. F. B.
Bury St. Edmunds.
Wehh of Monckton Farleigh, — Perhaps some
reader of " N". & Q." would be so good as to in-
form me what were the arms, crest, and motto
of the Webbs of Monckton Farleigh, co. Wilts ;
also, if there be any pedigree of them extant, and
where it is to be found ; or otherwise would direct
me what would be my best means to ascertain
some account of that family, who are now repre-
sented by the Duke of Somerset? Hshrx.
Dublin.
Translation Wanted, — Can any of your corre-
spondents inform me where I may meet with a
translation by the Rev. F. Hodgson, late Provost
of Eton, &c., of the Atys of Catullus ?
P. J. F. Gantillon, B. a.
Latin Translation from Sheridan^ S^c. — My
treacherous memory retains one line only of each
of two translations into Latin verse, admirably
done, of two well-known pieces of English poetry.
The first from a song by Sheridan, of the lines :
*' Nor can I helieve it then,
Till it gently press again."
** Conscia ni dextram dextcra pressa premat."
The second :
'* Man wants but little here below.
Nor wants that little long.'*
is thus rendered :
^* Poscimus in terris pauca, nee ilia diii.'
If in the circle of your correspondents the com«
plete translations can be furnished, you will, by
their insertion, gratify other lovers of modern
Latin poetry besides Balliolensis.
Gale of Rent, — I can imagine what is meant by
2k gale ofrent^ and be thankful I have not to pay
one. But what is the origin of the term gale as
thus applied ? Y. B. N. J.
Arms of Sir Richard de Loges. — What were
the arms borne by Sir Richard de Loges, or
Lodge, of Chesterton, in the county of Warwick,
temp. Henry IV. ? Lir.
Gentile Names of the Jews. — Are the Jews
known to each other by their Gentile names of
Rothschild, Montefiore, Davis, &c. ? or are these
only their nommes de gtterre, assumed and aban-
doned at will on change of country ?
G. E. T. S. R. N.
Henry, Earl of Wotton (Vol. viii., pp. 173.281.).
— The editors of the Navorscher express their
thanks to Bboctuna for his reply to their Query,
but hope he will kindly increase their debt of
gratitude by elucidating three points which seem
to them obscure :
1. Which Lord Stanhope died childless? Not
Henry, Lord Stanhope, for he (see p. 281.) left a
son and two daughters ; nor yet Philip, for his
widow had borne him daughters. Or have we
wrongly understood the letters s,p, to signify sine
prole f
2. Was it the Earl of Chesterfield, half-brother
of Charles Henry van den Kerckhove, or Charles
564
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 215.
Stanbope his nepheir, who took the name of
Wotton ?
3. Knight's National Cyclopcsdia of Useful
Knowledge (vol. xi. p. 374.) names James Stan-
hope, Earl Stanhope, the eldest son of the Hon.
Alexander Stanhope, second son of Philip Stan-
hope, first Earl or Chesterfield. Had the latter
then, besides the above-named (see p. 281.) Henry,
Lord Stanhope, also other sons ?
Kicker- eating, — Can any of your West York-
shire readers supply me with information relative
to a practice which is said formerly to have pre-
vailed at Cleckheaton, of eating "kicker, or
horseflesh ? It is a fact that natives of that lo-
cality who come to reside at Leeds are still sub-
lected to the opprobrium of being kicker- eaters.
^ H.W.
Chadderton of Nuthurst, co, Lancashire. — When
did the family of Chadderton become extinct?
Had Edmund Chadderton, son and heir of George
Chadderton by Jane Warren of Poynton, any de-
scendants ? and if so, what were their names and
the dates of their respective births, marriages, and
deaths ? In short, any particulars relating to
them down to the period of the extinction of this
family would be most acceptable. J. B.
Oeorge^ first Viscount Lanesborough^ and Sir
Charles CottereU. — G. S. S. begs to submit the
following questions to the readers of "N. & Q. :"
When did George Lane, first Viscount Lanes-
borough, in Ireland, die ? And when Sir Charles
Cotterell, the translator of Cassandra f AVhere
were they both buried ?
" Firm was their faith^^ §t. — Who was the
writer of those beautiful lines, of which the fol-
lowing, the only verse I remember, is a portion ?
*< Firm was their faith, the ancient bands.
The wise in heart, in wood and stone.
Who rear*d with stern and trusting hands.
The dark grey towers of days unknown.
They fill'd those aisles with many a thought^
They bade each nook some truth recall,
The pillared arch its legend brought,
A doctrine came with roof and wall 1 "
And where can they be met with entire ? P. M.
The Mother of William the Conqueror, — Can
you or any of your correspondents say which is
right? In Debrett's Peerage for 1790 the ge-
nealogy of the Marchioness Grey gives her descent
from *' Rollo or Fulbert, who was chamberlain to
Robert, Duke of Normandy ; and of his gift had
the castle and manor of Croy in Picardy, whence
his posterity assumed their surname, afterwards
written de Grey. Which Rollo had a daughter
Arlotta, mother of William the Conqueror." Kow
history says that the mother of the Conqueror was
Arlette or Arlotte, the daughter of a tanner al
Falaise. We know how scrupulous the Norman
nobility were in their genealogical records; and
likewise that in the lapse of time mistakes ue
perpetuated and become history. Can history in
this instance be wrong ? and if so, how did the
mistake arise? I shall feel oblijred to any one
who can furnish farther information on the sub*
ject. Alpha.
Pedigree of Sir Francis Bryan. — This acoom-
plished statesman, and ornament of Henry VIILV
reign, married Joan of Desmond, Countess Dow«-
ager of Ormonde, and died childless in Ireland
A.D. 1550. Query, Did any cadet of his family-
accompany him to that country? I found a
Louis Bryan settled in the county of Kilkenny in
£lizabeth*s reign, and suspect that he came in
through the connexion of Sir F. Bryan with the
Ormonde family. Any information as to the
arras and pedigree of Sir F. Bryan will greatlj
oblige James Gbaybs*
Kilkenny.
I
" The Whole Duty of Man.'* — Of what nature
is the testimony that this book was written bjr
Dorothy Coventry, " the good Lady Pakington?
QUJSSITOB.
[The supposition that Lady Packington was the
author of The Whole Duty of Man, arose from a copy
of it in her handwriting having been found at West-
wood after her death. (Aubrey's Letters, toI. ii. p. 125.)
But the strongest evidence in favour of Lady Packing-
ton is the following note : " Oct. 1 3, 1698. Mr. Thomas
Caulton, Vicar of Worksop, in Nottinghamshire, in the
presence of William lliornton, Esq., and his lady,
Mrs. Heathcote, Mrs. Ashe, Mrs. Caulton, and Johi»
Hewit, Rector of Harthill, declared the words follow-*
ing: 'Nov. 5, 1689. At Shire-Oaks, Mrs; Eyre took
me up into her chamber after dinner, and told me that
her daughter Moyser, of Beverley, was dead. Among
other things concerning the private affairs of the family,,
she told me who was the author of The Whole Duty of
Matit at the same time pulling out of a private drawer
a MS. tied together, and stitched in 8vo., which she
declared was the original copy written by Lady Pack-
ington her mother, who disowned ever having written
the other books imputed to be by the same author^
excepting T/^e Decay of Christian Piety, She added»
too, that it had been perused in MS. by Dr. CoveU
Master of Trinity College, Cambridge, Dr. Stamford,
Prebendary of York, and Mr. Banks, liector of the
Great Church at Hull.* Mr. Caulton declared this,
upon his death-bed, two days before bis decease-
W. T. and J. H." This is quoted from the llev.
W. B. Hawkins's Introduction to Pickering's edition of
1842; and a similar account, with unimportant va-
riations, IS given in « N. & Q.," Vol. ii., p. 292, : see
also Vol. v., p. 2S9., and Vol. vi, p. 537.}
J)eo. 10. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
665
" // rained cats and dogs and little pitchforks,^* —
helter-skelter. — What can be the origin of this
isajing? I can imagine that rain may descend
avath such sharpness and violence as to cause as
mucb destruction as a shower of "pitchforks"
■Trould; but if any of your readers can tell me
wbj heavy rain should be likened to " cats and
dogs," I shall be truly obliged. Many years ago
I saw a most cleverly drawn woodcut, of a party
of travellers encountering this imaginary shower ;
some of the animals were descending helter-skelter
irom the clouds ; others wreaking their vengeance
on the amazed wayfarers, while the " pitchforks"
vrere running into the bodies of the terrified party,
.■wliile they were in vain attempting to run out of
the way of those which were threatening to fall
upon their heads, and thus striking them to the
ground. So strange an idea must have had some
peculiar origin. — Can you or your readers say
what it is ? M. E. C.
P. S. — I find I have used a word above, of
•which every one knows the signification^ " helter-
«kelter;" but I, for one, confess myself ignorant
•of its derivation. And I shall be glad to be in-
formed on the subject.
[As to the etymology o{ heUer-skelter, Sir John Stod-
xlart remarks, " The real origin of the word is obscure.
If we suppose the principal meaning to be in the first
'part, it may probably come from the Islandic hilldr
-pugna ; if in the latter part, it may be from the Ger-
'man schaliertt to thrust forward, which in the dialect of
the north of England means *to scatter and throw
Abroad as molehills are when levelled ; ' or from skei/lf
which in the same dialect is ' to push on one side, to
overturn.* "]
Father Traves. — Can any of your Lancashire
xeaders refer me to a source whence I might
X)btain information on matters pertaining to the
life of one Father Travers [Traves], the friend
4ind correspondent of the celebrated martyr John
Bradford ?
As yet I have but met with the incidental men-
iilon of his name in the pages of Fox, and in Hoi-
Jingworth's Mancue^isis^ pp. 75, 76. A Jesuit.
[The name is spelt by Fox sometimes Traves and
-sometimes Travers ; but who he was there is no par-
-ticular mention ; except that it appears from Brad-
■ford's letters that he was some friend of the family, and
'from the superscription to one of them, that he Tvas
the minister of Blackley, near Manchester, in which
place, or near to which, Bradford's mother must then
have resided. Strype says, he was a learned and pious
gentleman, his patron and counsellor. — Mem, Eccles.,
vol. iii. part i. p. 364.]
Precise Dates of Births and Deaths of the Pre-
tenders, — Will anv one be so kind as to tell me
the date of the birth and death of James VIII.
^nd his son Charles III. (commonly called Prince
Charles Edward Stuart) ? These dates are given
so variously, that I am anxious to ascertain them
correctly. L. M. M. B.
{[We believe the following to be the precise dates :•—
James VIII., born June 10, 1688; died January 2,
1 765-6. Charles Edward, born December 20, 1 720
(sometimes printed as New Style, Dec. 31) ; died
January 31, 1788.]
Clarence. — Whence the name of this dukedom ?
Was the title borne by any one before the time of
Lionel, son of Edward III. ? W. T. M.
[The title Clarence was, as we learn from Cam-
den (Pritonnta, edit. Gough, vol. ii. pp. 73, 74.), derived
from the honour of Clare, in Suffolk ; and was first
borne by Lionel Plantagenet, third son of Edward IIL,
who married Elizabeth de Burgh, daughter and heir
of William, Earl of Ulster, and obtained with her
the honour of Clare. He became, jure uxorig. Earl of
Ulster, and was created, September 15, 1362, Duke of
Clarence.]
macket's "theory or the eabth."
(Vol. viii., p. 468.)
About the year 1827, when the prosecutions for
blasphemy were leading hundreds and thousands
to see what could be said against Christianity,
with a very powerful bias to make the most of all
that they could find, some friends of mine, of more
ingenuity than erudition, strongly recommended
to my attention the works of a shoemaker at
Norwich, named Mackey, who they said was more
learned than any one else, and had completely
shown up the thing. It is worth a note that I
perfectly remember the cause of their excitement
to have been the imprisonment of the Rev. Robert
Taylor, for publishing various arguments against
revelation. I examined several works of Mackey's,
and I have yet one or two bound up among my
wonders of nature and art. As in time to come,
when neither love nor money will procure a copy
of these books, some tradition may set inquirers
looking after them, perhaps it may be worth while
to preserve a couple of extracts for tbe benefit of
those who have the sense to hunt the index of
" N. & Q." before they give up anything.
«♦ The Virgin Andromeda, the daughter of Cepheus
and Cassiopeia, was the representative of Palestina ; a
long, narroiv, rocky strip of land ; figuratively called
the daughter of Rocks and Mountains ; because it is a
country abounding with rocks and stones. And the
Greeks, really supposing Cepha, a rock or stone, to
have been the young ladies father, added their sign of
the masculine gender to it, and it became Cepha-vt.
And mount Cassius being its southern boundary was
called Cassiobi ; from its being also the boundary of
the overflowed Nile, called Obi, which the Greeks
566 NOTES AND QUERIES. [No. 216.
softened into Cassiopeia^ and supposed it to have been little of his mind, and lost sight of him altogether
her mother; . . .** — Mythological Astronomy, part se- till about 1840. Then circumstances connected
cond, Norwich, 1823, l2mo., p. xiii. with mj own line of study led me to call on him
. ** The story of Abraham, notwithstanding all the j^ Doughty's Hospital, Norwich, an asylum ht
endeavours of theologians to give it the appearance of g^gg^j persons. I found him surrounded by astro-
the hiatory of human beings, has preserved its mytho- j^q^\qqX apparatus, books, the tools of his former
logical features with an outline and colouring, easily ^^^^ ^^^ ^j ^j^^^^ ^^ strange litters. In the
to be recognised by every son of Urama [Ur of the conversation that ensued, I learned mnch of the
?r:]|. VetreSt^rn thlt ZXyX^t:: -rklngs of his mind ; though his high^lf-appn.
their harvest about the time which the sun >*•*. ot>er ^'^^^^^ could not descend to unreserved conrcrse
the equator, and if we go back to the time of Abraham '^Jth a woman. My object was, to ascertain by
we shall find that the equator [perhaps he means what steps he had arrived at bis theory of the
vquinoz] was in Taurus ; the Egyptians must, then, earth's motion, but I could gain nothing distinct
have had their harvest while the sun was in the Bull ; He mentioned the AsicOic Researches as contain-
ihe Bull was, therefore, in their figurative way of ing vast information on his peculiar subject;
speaking, the father of harvest, not only because he quoted Latin, and I think Greek, authors; and
plough^ the ground, but because the sun was there seemed to place great dependence on Maurice sad
when they got in their harvest: thus the Bull was Bryant; but, above all, on Capt. Wilford*S JSmo^
doubly distinguished as their benefactor ; he was now, flg showed me some elaborate calculations, at
more than ever, become the Bull of life, I e. he was ^bich he was then working ; and still fancied him-
not only called ^6ir, the Bull, but ^6ir-am or Ab'-r-ann, gelf qualified, perhaps destined, to head a great
tiie5u//o//./e,-- the father of bar vest And as their revolution in 5ie astronomical worid. I cuinot
harvest was ongmally under the direction of Iseth, or , ^ , . tno^u^i^ ^r aetAoffr went m I
Isis, whatever belonged to harvest was Isiac ; but the ^^ ^^^ lar nis Knowieoge Ot geoiogy went, as 1
Bull, Abiram, was now become ih^ father of Isiac f and ?°\ ''''^^'^^^ acquainted with ihat SCi«loe. He
to give this the appearance of a human descent, they J?^ evidently read and studied deeply, but akoe;
added to Abir, the masculine affix ah; then it became ?»» ^wn intellect had never been brushed by the
AB*.aH-AM who was the father of Isiac. And we intellects and superior information of truly sden-
actually find this equivoque in the hebrew history of tific men, and it appeared to me that a vast deal
Abram whom the Lord afterwards called Abraham, who of dirt, real dirt, nad accumulated in his mind,
was the yb^Aer ^/«aac, whose seed was to be countless My visit disappointed and pained me; but he
as the sand on the sea^shore for multitude ; even this seemed gratified, and I thereiore promised to call
is truly applied to /aiac the offspring of Ab'-rh -am ; for again, which I did, but he was not at bome.. I
countless indeed are the offspring of the scythe and think this visit was soon after he had remoTed
sickle / but if we allow Isiac to be a real son of Ab-rah- into the hospital, for I then purchased his last
am we must enquire after his rnother. During the ^ork. The Age of Mental Emancipation, published
time that the equator [perhaps he means the sun] ,s iggg before he obtained that asylum. He died
passing through the constellation of the Bull m the ^^^^ jg^g ^ut I do not know the exact year,
spring, the BuU would ruetnthe east every morning j„ ^^^ ^j^.^ ^^ Norwich, I wiU m^ake in-
m the harvest time, in i^gypt, — but in the poetical . . •' „ . . , .. . ■»«• i. ^ ax.
hmguage of the ancients, it would be said thatTwhen ^^^^^J ^" ^^^ P^^'^*^ re ating to Mackey, of the
^Hm consorts with Aurora he will produce Isiac. Tf'y few persons now left who took mterest m
But Aurora is well known to be the golden splendour of ^^°^' ^^^ ^ ^^^^^ ^ can find the printer of his last
the east, and the brightness of the east is called Zara, paniphlet.
and the morning star is Serah, in the eastern Ian- I have not the work mentioned in "N. & Q.;"
guages, and we find a similar change of sound in the but, besides his last work, I have The Mythological
name of Isaac's mother, whom the Lord would no Astronomy of the Ancients demonstrated, which is
longer call Sarai but Sarah. These are remarkable partly in poetry.
coincidences!" — Companion to the Mythological Astro- I have been obliged to write thb Note in the
Homy, Norwich, 1824, 12mo. pp. 177 — 179. first person, as I can give only my own impres-
M. sions respecting Mackey ; and I wish that ere this
In answer to the inquiry respecting this sin- you ™ay bave received clearer information from
gular man, I beg to say that I remember him be- more competent persons. If your Querist have
tween the years 1826 and 1830, as a shoemaker the least grain of faith in the theory of Mackey, I
in Norwich. He was in a low rank of trade, and hope he will not let the subject drop, for I have
in poor circumstances, which he endeavoured to long been deeply interested in it. F. C. B.
improve by exhibiting at private houses an orrery Diss,
of his own making. He was recognised as a
"genius;" but, as maybe seen by his writinors, Mackey, of whom your correspondent inquires,
had little reverence for established forms of belief, was an entirely self-educated man, but a learned
At the period of which I speak, which was soon shoemaker, residing in Norwich. He devoted all
after the publication of his first work, I knew but his leisure time to astronomical, geological, and
DsC. 10. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
69t
phflological pursuits ; and had some share in the
formation of a society in his native town, for the
fiiirpose of debating questions relative to these
9cience6. I have understood that he was for some
time noticed bj a small portion of the scientific
world, but afterwards neglected, as, from bis own
account, he appears also to have been by his
literary fellow townsmen ; and at last to have died
in a Norwich alms-house. This is but a meagre
account of the man, but it is possible that I may
be able to glean farther particulars on the subject ;
for a medical friend of mine, who some time ago
lent me Mythologioal Astronomy^ promised to let
me see some papers in his possession relative to
this learned shoemaker's career, and to a few of
his unpublished speculations. When I have an
opportunity of seeing these, I shall be glad to com-
municate to your correspondent through **N. & Q."
anything of interest. The title-page of MythO'
logiccd Astronomy runs thus :
*' The Mythological Astronomy of the Ancients
demonstrated by restoring to their Fables and Sym-
bols their Original Meanings. By Sampson Arnold
Mackey, Shoemaker. Norwich : printed by R. Walker,
near the Duke's Palace. Published May 1, 1822, by
8. A. Mackey, Norwich."
The book contains a variety of subjects, but
principally treats of the Hindoo, Greek, and Koman
mythology; and endeavours to deduce all the
febles and symbols of the ancients from the starry
sphere. It also contains a singular hypothesis of
the author's upon the celebrated island of Atlantis,
mentioned by Plato and other Greek authors ; and
some very curious speculations concerning the
doctrine of the change in the angle which the
plane of the ecliptic makes with the plane of the
equator.
Urania's Key to the Revelations is bound up with
the above work. I forgot to say that his Ancient
Mythology demonstrated is written in verse, and
afterwards more fully explained by notes. His
poetical abilities, however, neither suit the subject,
nor are of a very high order. His prose is better,
but here and there shows the deficiency of edu-
cation. E. M. K.
Grantham.
SIMCEBE, SIMPLE, SIKGULAB.
(Vol. viii., pp. 195. 328. 399.)
When a hive of bees is taken, the practice is to
lay the combs upon a sieve over some vessel, in
order that the honey may drain out of the combs.
Whilst the combs are in the hive, they hang per-
pendicularly, and each cell is horizontal ; and in
this position the honey in the cells which are in
the course of being filled does not run out ; but
when the combs are laid on the sieve horizontally,
the cells on the lower side of the combs hang per-
pendicularly, and then the honey begins to nun
out of those that are not sealed up. The honey
that so runs out is perfectly pure, and free from
wax. The cells, however, that are sealed op wilb
wax still retain their honey; and the ordinary
process to extract it is to place the sieve with the
combs upon it so near a fire as gradually to mdt
the wax, so as to let the honey escape. During
this process, some portion of wax nnavoidably
gets mixed with the honey. Here then we have
two kinds of honey : one in a perfectly pure state^
and wholly sine cera ; the otner in some degree
impure, and mixed cum cera. Can anything be
more reasonable than to suppose that t^e former
was called sincervm mel^ just as we call it virgin
honey ? And this accords with Ainsworth*s deri*
vation, " ex sine et cera : ut mel purum dicitur
quod cer& non est permixtum.** If it be said that
there is nothing to show that the old Romans
adopted.the process I have described, I reply it i»
immaterial what process they followed in ora«r to
extract what would not flow out of itself; as
whatever did flow out of itself would be mel sine
cera.
If such were the origin of the term, it is etaj
to see how appropriately, in a secondary sense, it
would denote whatever was pure, sweet, unadul-
terated, and ingenuous.
Now if we apply this sense to the line :
" Sinoerum est nisi vas quodounque infundls acescit,*'— >
it will mean, *' unless the vessel be sweet and pore^
it will turn whatever you pour into it sour.'*
This is the interpretation that has always
hitherto been put upon the line ; which is thus
translated by Tommaso Gargallo, vol. iii. p. 19..
edit. 1820:
<* Se non e puro il vase, ecoo gi^ guasto
Che che v' infondi."
And by Francis (vol. iv. p. 27., 6th edit.) : —
" For tainted vessels sour what they contain. **
The context shows that this is the correct tram*
lation, as sincerum vas is obviously in opposition
to " auriculas coUectd sorde dolentes," in the pre-
ceding line.
The line itself plainly refers to the well-known
fact, that if wine or other liquor be poured into a
foul vessel, it will be polluted by it. Nor can I
avoid noticing the elegant opposiUon, according lo^
this construction, between the sweetness in jin-
cerum^ and the acidity in acescit,
1 also think that Mb. Inglebt's version cannot
be correct for the following reason. Cracks may
exist in every part of a vessel alike ; and as^ tlie
part filled by the liquor is always many times
greater than the remainder of the vessel, craoks
would more frequently occur in the former ; and»
as where air can get in the liquor can get out, it
66S
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 215.
ia plain that in the majority of instances the liquor
would run away instead of turning sour. "Now
the line plainly contains a general affirmative pro-
position that all liquor whatsoever will be turned
sour, unless the vessel be sincerum ; and therefore
j^at version cannot be right which applies only
rio a few instances.
*' Sincerum cupimus vas incrustare" is well
rendered by Gargallo (vol. ii. p. 37.) :
" . . • . Insudiciar bramiamo
Anco il vase piii pure ; "
ftnd by Francis (vol. ili. p. 39.) :
<* And joy th* untainted vessel to begrime.*'
TThe passage is well explained in the note to
"Baxter's Hor. (p. 310. edit. 1809) ;
** Incrustari vas dicitur cum aliquo vitioso succo
illlnitur atque inquinatur.*'
And the passage in the 18th satire of Lucilius
fihows that this is an accurate explanation :
«« Regionlbus illis
Incrustatu* calix ruta caulive bibetur."
A practice, I rather think, prevails in some parts
of England of rubbing the inside of a vessel with
sweet nerbs, in order to flavour cyder or other
liquor.
It appears from the same note :
'* Fracta vasa et gypsare et pelUculare Veteres consue-
vSre. Gypsantur et pelliculantur vasa plena ad aera
e% sordes excludendas. Sincerum proprie mel sine
cer&, vel, quod magis hue pertinet, vas non ceratum :
nam a ceratura odorem vel saporem trahit.**
If these passages show the practice of sealing ves-
sels with wax, they also show that the wax was
what afiected the flavour of the liquor.
Mb. J£FFC0CK plainly errs in saying that sim-
plex "does not mean without a fold, but once
folded." In Latin we have the series simplex,
duplex, triplex, &c., corresponding precisely to the
English single, dovble, treble, &e. And as single
denotes a tning without a fold, so does simplex,
Mb. Jbffcock's derivation would make simplex
and duplex mean the same thing. Now duplex
does not mean twice folded, but double.
Nor can I think that sinmdus can be "semel
and termination." Ainswortn derives it from the
Hebrew n/iD» which denotes whatever is pecu-
liar or singular. It occurs to me to suggest whe-
ther it may not be derived from sine angvlis. The
term denotes unity — one person, one thing. Now
the Roman mark for one is a straight line, and
that is '*that which lies evenly between its ex-
treme points;** it is emphatically a line without
bond, an^le, or turning — "linea sine angulus:**
ongulus, like its Greek original, denoting any bend,
irhether made by a straight or curved line.
• Though I cannot at this moment refer to any
er Latin words compounded of sine, we have
in Spanish simpar, without equal: sinigual, «iit«
justicia, sinrazon, sinnumero, sinsahor.
The delight I take in endeavouring to attain
the correct meaning of the classics will, I hope,
form some apology n}r the length of this Note.
S. G. C»
NewcastI e-u pon-Ty ne.
POETICAL TAVERN SIGNS.
(Vol. viii., p. 242.)
In an old collection of tavern signs of the last
century, among many others I find the following.
On the sign of the " Arrow,** at Knockholt, in
Kent, —
** Charles Collins liveth bere«
Sells rum, brandy, gin, and beer ;
I made this board a little wider.
To let you know I sell good cyder.**
On the- sign of the " Shoulder of Mutton and
Cat,** at Hackney, in Middlesex, —
«* Pray Puss don*t tear.
For the mutton is so dear ;
Pray Puss don*t claw,
For the mutton yet is raw.*'
On the sign of the " Gate,** at Blean Hill, in
Kent, —
" Stop, brave boys, and tqueneh your thirst,
If you won*t drink, the horses must.**
On the sign of the " Ship in Distress," in
Middle Street, Brighton, Sussex, —
*^ With sorrows I am compass*d round ;
Pray lend a hand, my ship's aground.**
On the sign of the " Waggon and Horses," ia,
Black Lion Street, Brighthelmstone, «—
** Long have I travers'd both far and near,
On purpose to find out good beer,
And at last I found it here.**
KUBT.
At a small way-side beer-shop in the parish of
Werrington in the county of Devon, a few years
since there was the following sign :
<< The Lengdon Inn, kept by M. Vuller.
Gentlemen walk in and sit at your aise,
Pay for what you call for, and call for what you plaise ;
As tristing of late has been to my sorrow.
Pay me to-day and I'Utristee to-morrow.**
J. p.
Launceston.
Not far from Kilpeck, Herefordshire, I have
seen a wayside public-house, exhibiting the sign
of the "Oak,** under which is the following
couplet :
** I am an oak, and not a yew,
So drink a cup with good John Pugh."
Dec. 10. 1853.]
KOTES AND QUEKIES.
As "good Jolu Pngt" sold excellent cider, I did
not repeat compljiog nitb the injunction.
W. J. Bbrhbabd Suitb.
Temple.
This ia at a roadside public-house near Maiden-
head, known bj the sign of the '* Gate." It is
" Hiis gate hangs high,
It hinders none;
Drink heart;, boys.
And traiel on."
I remember a sign near Marlborough of the " Bed
Cow," and the landlord, being also a milkman, had
inscribed under the rude drawing of a cow these
" The Red Coir
Gives good milt now."
Newbubiensis.
HOMO UNI OS UBBi.
(Vol. viii., p. 440.)
I have not verified in the works of St. Thomas
this saying ascribed to him, but I subjoin a pas-
sage &om Bishop Taylor, where it is quoted :
" A rlvep cut into many rivulets divides also its
■trengtb, and grows contemptible and apt to be forded
bf a lamb and drunk up hy a summer nm ; so is the
spirit d( man bulled in THiiety. and divided in itself;
it abates its fervour, cools into indiflerencj, and becomes
trifling by Its diipersioti and inadvertency. Aquinas
was once asked, with what compendium a man might
best become learned? He answered, Bi/ reading of one
hwik; meaning that an understanding entertained with
■eteral objects is intetit upon neither, and profits not."
—Life of Chritt, part ii. s. lii. 16.
He also quotes Ecclua (si. 10.), St. Gregory,
St. Bernard, Seneca, QuintUlian, and Juvenal to
the same purpose.
Southej quotes part of this passage from Bishop
Ta3'lor (in the Doctor) and adds:
"Lord Holland's poet, the prolific Lope de Vegs,
tells ua to the same purport. The ffomo Uiltti Librt
is indeed proverbially farmidable to all conversational
figurantes : like your sharpshooter, he knows his piece,
and is sure of his shot."
The truth of this dictum of St. Thomas cannot
Ik too much insisted on in this age of manj books,
which affords such incentiTes to literary dissipa-
tion and consequent shallowness.
■' An intellectual man, as the world now conceives
of him, is one who is full of < views,' on all subjects of
philosophy, on all matters of the day. It is almost
thought a disgrace not to have a view at a moment's
notice on any question from the Personal Advent to the
Cholera or Mesmerism. This is owing in a great
measure to the necessities of periodical literature, now
GO much in request. Every quarter of a year, every
month erery day, there must be a supply for the
gratification of the public, of new and luminous
theories on the subjects of rellglnn, foreign politic^
home politics, civil economy, finance, trade, agriculture,
emigration, and the aolonies. Slavery, the gold Gelds,
German philosophy, the French empirv, Well'ugtoD,
Feel, Ireland, must al! be practised on, day alter day,
by what are called original thinkers."— Dr. Neamatt't
Due. on Univ. Educ., p. iiv. (preface).
This writer follows up the subject very ably,
and hia remarks on that spurious phllosophism
which shows itself in what, for want of a better
word, he calls " viewiness," are worth the atten-
tion of all homines vnias libri.
F.S. — As I think of it, I shall make a cognate
Query. Some facetious opponent of the school-
men fathered on St. Thomas Aquinas an ima-
ginary work in sundry folio volumes entitled Dt
OmHibus Rebas, adding an equally bulky and
imaginsiry supplement — Et Quibttndam Aliit. This
is as often used to feather a piece of unfledged
wit, as the speculation concerning the number
of angels that could dance on the point of a
needle, and yet I have never been able to trace
out the inventor of these vbionary tomes.
ElBIOMNACB.
(Vol. viii., p. 411.)
M;^ attention was directed to the consideration
of this expression some jearj ago when reading in
John Dymmoks' Treatise of Ireland, written a^ut
the year 1600, and published among the Tracts
relating to Ireland, printed for the &ish Arehao-
logical Society, vol. li., the following paragraph :
•' Before the vant-guard marched the fordom hopr,
consisting of forty shott and twenty shorle weapons,
with order that they should not diwharge until! tbey
presented theire pieces to the rebulls' breasts in their
trenches, and that sooddenly the short weapons should
enter the trenches pell mell: vpon eyther syde of the
guarde) marched wingsofshottenterljned with pikes, to
which were sent secondes with as much care and dill'
gence as occasion required. The baggage, and b parte
of the horse, marclied before the battell ; (he rest of the
horse troopes fell in before the reareaiarde encept thirty,
which, in the head of the narclonu hopi, conducted by
Sir Hen. Danvers, made the retreit of the whole army."
— P. 32.
The terms rearelome hope and forhme hopt
occur constantly in the same work, and bear the
same signification as in the foregoing.
Remarking upon this circumstence to my friend
the late Dr. Graves, be wrote the following notice
of the word in the Dublin Quarterly Joward of
Medical Science, of which I was then the editor, m
Feb. 1S49 :
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. Sit
Jm h^t. The wHectiTa lui nothing to ilo with dc-
■piir, nar the aubMaative with tba ' ehvnier whleb
lingen ■till bahind ;' thare wu no luch poatioaJ depth
in thevords m originitlj' lucd. Exrycoipi marcbing
in an; enem;^ country had ■ imall body (rf'men « the
hnd (katipt or Aofw) of the adianccd guard ; and
which wat termed the forhriH hopt (bn being hera
another imall body at the bead of the rere guard was
called the nar-bm hopt (ii.). A raference to Jahn-
lon'i Dictiotuiry proTu that ciTiliana were milled ai
early a* the time of Dryden bj the mere sound of a
teehnieal military phrase ; and, in proceu of time, ersn
military men forgot the true meaning of the words. II
fciiTe* me to aap the bundalinna of an error to which
w* are indabttd for Byron'a baautiful line :
■ The Aill of hope, miinamed yiirbra.' "
W. E. WlUW.
Duhlin.
(Vol. riii., p. 128.)
The title-page of this work ia : Comadia Dinina,
tAit drei Vorreden von Pettr Hammer, Jeun Paul,
uad deta Heraungeber, 1S08. The absence of
Eublisher's name and place of publication leaves
ttte doubt that the name W. G. H. Gottbardt,
ud the date "Baael. Mai 1, 1808," ue both fio-
titioui.
But for fiitdinfc the pauage cited hj M. U. E.
at p.SS., I sbouid have auppoaed that the Munich
critic had referred to some other book with the
same title. No one who has read thie can suppose
it WBB written by Tiack. The Catholic- romantio
Bobool, of which he was the moat distinguidied
member, furnishea the chief objects of the author's
ridicule. Novalis, GiJrret, and P. Schlagel are
the moat prominent; but at p. 138. ii an absurd
sonnet " an Tieck."
The Comadia Divina is a very clever and some-
what profane sntire, such as Voltaire might haTC
written bad he been a German of the nineteenth
centur/. It opens witli Jupiter complaining to
Mercury of ennui (eine langweilige Exulem), and
Uiat he is not what lie was when young. Mercury
advises a trip to Loipzi)} fair, where he may get
good medical advice for hie gout, and certainly
will see something new. They go, and hear
various dealers sing the catalogues of their goods.
The lines quoted by M. M.^. are sung by a
young man with u puppet-show and barrd-organ
to tlie burdeD :
Bsthetica of Giirres. The whole of tlia aoog ii
good ; and I quote one stansa as showing a
sound appreciation of the current meta^y-
" Die Intelligeni eonitniirt dob in der fivA
All Object, und erkennt lieh, und du itt gwobttdb
Denn aui dieaen und andern Conitructuran
Entatehen I«hrUiiolier und ProfeMuien."
They visit the garret of Herr Novnlis Octavi-
anuB Uomwunder, a maker of books to order
upon every subject : they learn the mysteries of
the manufacture. The scene is olerer, but muoh
of the wit is unappreciable as directed against
productions which have not surviTed. Japita,
m compasaioQ to Hornwuuder, changes him to a
goose, immediately after which a bookseUer enters,
and, mistakii^ the gods for authors, makes them
an offer of biz dollars and twelve grosohen the
octavo volume, besides something for the kitchen.
Jupiter, enraged, changes him to a fox, which
forthwith eats the goose "feathers and all."
They then go to see the play of the Fall of
Man (B^ SmdaifaU). The sutyeet U treated
after the manner of Hans Saoha, bat with this
difference, that the simple-minded old Knrwn-
berger saw nothing incon^uous in making Cain
and Abel say their catechism, and Cain go away
from the examination to fight with the low boyi
in the'street ; whereas the author of Dtr SiM*»r
fail is advisedly irreverent. Another proof! if oi>B
were wanted, that he was not Tieck.
Hit UngSttiicht ComlkUt is not by BatonuaU,
but translated by him from the Polish. In the
preface he apolc^ises for inelegant German, as
that is not his native languafe ; and I preanme
he is a Pole, as he says the aut£or's name u known
among us (iiaffr uiu). As he calls it a poem
(Diehtang), the original is probably in tbtm. 2
think the Munich critic could have seen only
some extracts from the Comadia Damu ; for, so
far from Bstornicki "plundering freely," I do not
find any resemblance between the works except
in the sole word comadia. The Comadia Divaut
is a mockery, not poliUcal, but literary, and aa
such anti-mystic and conservatiTO. Sit UttgHO-
licAe Comiidie is wild, mjrstical, supernatural,
republican, and communistic. Zt contains pas-
sages of great power, eloquence, and pauios.
German critics are often prosy and inefficient,
but not given to wilful misrepresentation or care-
lessness in examining the books they review.
The writer in the Munich journal must be held
an exception. H. B. C.
U. U. Club.
He exhibits things taken from the physic* of
Oken, the metaphysics of Schelling, and the
Dec. 10. 1853.] NOTES AND QUERIES. 571
UTBBiES WORN BY GENTLEMEN. The cotI recommended that Mr. (afterwards
r^ . TT 1 ••• >r \ ^^^^ William Herrick and Mr. Bromley should
(Vol. VI., p. 146. ; Vol. vui., p. 473.) ^e chosen, and in strong language warned them
The prevalence of the custom of the Hveries of ^^"^ ^l«<^*^°f, ^'l ^^Z^^. BelgrB.ye of Belgrave
noble and other persons being worn by others O^ho had greatly offended him^^
than the retainers of the family, in the ^igns of Belgrave stiU contineweth his great practfing m
Henry VI. and Elizabeth, is exemplified by two i!*^^*"^ *\^ ^^Tn' f^^ ^ '' ^""^^
documents preserved amongst the MSS. of the ^'; ^,7,%^^, ^^C" ^^ ^^' f ^^i^ "^^ ^
corporation of this borough The first, which is ^%<;^^" looke to make accompt of me.
also curious as a specimen of the language of the }} *PP^*^ that many members of the corpo-
period, is an award under the seal of Margaret ^**J°^ ^^^^ f 7^*^^ favourable to Mr. Belgrave,
S Anjou; under whom, as they had previously ?^,f ^^ ^^^ ^^^.^^^^' ^ explamed in the following
done inder Katherine, queen of Henry V., thi ^^**^^ '
O0n>oration farmed the bailiwick of the town : " flight Ho«, oure bumble dewties remSberd, &c.,
may yt please yo* good Lpp. to be c*tified, that upon
« Margaret, by the grace of God, Quene of England Tuesday morninge laste, being assembled for the choice
and of Ffiraunce and Lady of Irland, Doughter of the of o' Burgesses, Mr. George Belgrave p'sented him-
Kyng of Sicile and Jerlm. Be it knawen to all men selfe amongest us, in a blewe coat w**^ a bull head, af-
to whom this p^sent writyng (endented) shall come, firminge and protestinge he was yo' Lp's s'vt, and that
that whereas a certejrn Comission of my fuldoutfull S' Henrie Harrington, verye Ute the nigbt before, bad
Xiord was directed to c'teyn psones to enquere as well obteyned that favour of yo' ho' in his bebalfe ; and
of yevyng of lyu'e, as of other diu's articles muche bemoned his former undewtifuU cariage towards
|>efore the Comissioners of the seyd Comission it was yo* Lp, w*'^ a remorsive remembrance of many most
p'sented by William Neuby and other of our tenhtz of bo. favors receaved from yo' Lp and yo' house, to-
]L«ycestre that c'teyU psones, in Leycestre, wards bis auncestors, him, and his; and, recommend-
had taken clothyng of diu'rez p'sones, ayenst the forme inge his former suite to be one of oure Burgesses, being
of the statut ; that ys to wete, that some of hem had demanded whether he had any letter from yo' Lp, an-
taken clothyng of the Viscount Beaumont, and some swered, that this (poyntinge at his coat and cogni-
of S' Edward Grey, Lord Fferrers of Growby, and zance) he hoped was a sufficient testimonie of y» Lp's
some of hem had taken clothyng of other diu*res psones, favour towards him, and of bis submission towards yo*
by cause of which p*sentement diu'res psones, some of ho' ; and further, that it was so late before S' Henrie
the houshold of the seyd Lord Fferrers, and some of cold pcure yo' Lp's said favour, as that you cold not
the clothing of the said Lord, with other wele wilners well write, and, for the truth of the pmises, he offered
to the said Lord, as yet not to us knawen, by support* his corporal oathe. Whereupon we, thinkingejill thb
aeon and favour, and for pleasance to the said Lord, as to be true, made choyce of him, vr^ Mr. WiUm Har-
we ben enfo'med betyn and sore woundetyn ricke, to be o' Burgesses. And now, tliis evening, wee
the said William Neuby, and manesten to bete other are credibly certified that y' Lp hath geven him no
of our tenntz of Leycestre." She doth there- suche entertaynem* ; and thus by his said lewde and
fore '* ordeyn, deme, and awarde " that the said Lord most dishonest dealinge, being much abused, we
Ferrers pay c, marks to William Neuby, that he "be thought it o' dewties forthew*»» to signifle the same
goode lorde to the said William Neuby ; and to all unto yo' Lp, humbly cravinge yo' Lp's most ho'able
other tenntz in our lordship of Leycestre ; and that favor for some reformacon of this vile practize. And
the said lord shall not geve any clothyng or liue*y to thus, w*** remembrance of oure dewties, wee humbly
anypsone dwellyng within our said lordship," &c. . . . take o' leaves. From LeiC, this xx*** day of October,
" Yeven the xx day of May, the yere of the reign of my 1601. __
most douted Lord Kyng Henr* the Sext, xxvil" " Youre honor's most humble to comaunde,
_, , , /. 1 M Signed by " Willm Rowes, Maior,
Ihe above extracts show one of the evils to Robert Hetricke,"
:which the practice led ; another, mentioned in the And ten others,
deed, was that of deerstealing. William Newby . , ,
was mayor of the town in 1425, 1433, and 1444-5. An angry and characteristic reply from the earl
The second document is a curious letter from follows, but with which, as it is printed in Jhomp-
the mayor and some members of the corporation son's History of Leicester (p. 318.), 1 will not
to George Earl of Huntington, lord-lieutenant of trespass upon your valuable space. At "lay be
the county, and a frequent resident in the town, sufficient to say, that he tells the mayor that —
where^^ a part of his mansion, called " Lord's „ Notwithstanding this treacherous devise of that
JPlace," and in which James I. was entertained, cunninge practisore, I feare it will appeare, upon due
still exists. The draft of this letter forms part of scanninge of this accydent, y* there remaynes a false
an interesting series of correspondence between brother amongst you .... And as for y« p'sone hym-
the corporation and the earl, respecting the nomi- self whoe hathe thus shameleslye sought to dishonoure
nation of the parliamentary representatives of the me and deceave you, I will, by the grace of God, take
town in 1601. suche order as in honor and lawfullye I maye, bothe
672
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 215.
for y* better unfouldinge of this, as also for sucbc pun-
njTsbm* as the law will inflict.*'
In pursuance of this determination, the earl
exhibited an information against Mr. Belgruve in
the Star Chamber. The subsequent proceedinprs
which took place on the subject in parliament will
be found noticed in D'Ewes's Journal^ and quoted
in Thompson*s History of Leicester^ pp. 319-323.
William Kellt.
Leicester.
take care not to draw it along, but so to lift it that the
last corner is not moved until it is raised from the al-
bumen. In pinning up be careful that the paper takes
the inward curl, otherwise the appearances exhibited
will be almost sure to take place. As the albumeniaing
liquid is of very trifling cost, we recommend the use of
two dishes, as by that means a great economy of time
is obtained.3
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appearance in developing, on Turner's paper espe-
cially, and which he says are owing to minute
pieces of metal in the paper, what is the best way
of hiding them in the negative, so that they may
as little as possible injure the positive ? I have
suflTered sadly from this cause ; and have tried to
stop them with ammonio-nitrate, which turns afler
a time to red, and stops the light effectually ; but
I should prefer some black colouring the strength
of which one could measure by seeing its imme-
diate effect.
2. And again, when one has black spots, what
is the best means of lessening their intensity, if
not of wholly removing them ? ^^Mroypcupos.
[Where light spots occur in a negative. Dr. Dia-
mond recommends, as the most effectual mode of stop-
ping them, a little gamboge neatly applied with a
camel-hair pencil. Where a great intensity is desired,
Indian ink may be applied in the same manner, taking
care in both cases to smooth off the edges with a dry
brush. The cyanide of potassium applied in the same
way, but with very great care, will remove the black
spots. Before it appears to have quite accomplished
its object, a negative should be immersed in water, as
its action is so energetic]
Alhumenized Paper, — I have followed Dr. Dia-
Moin>*s directions for albumenizing paper (thin
Canson negative) as accurately as I can, but I
cannot prevent the albumen in drying, when
pinned up, from forming into waves or streaks.
This will be best understood from a specimen of a
sheet which I inclose, and I shall be much obliged
if you can tell me how this can be avoided. Some
alhumenized paper which I have purchased is
quite free from this defect, but being at a distance
n*om London, it is both convenient and economical
to prepare my own paper. C. E. F.
^ [We would recommend our correspondent to remove
his paper from the albumen still more slowly ; and to
Marcames (VoL viii., p. 365.). — Can this cu-
riously sounding name be an archaic form of
Mackamess, a name, I think, still borne by living
persons ? Pbancis John Scott.
Tewkesbury.
X on Brewers' Casks (Vol. viii., p. 439.). — Tour
correspondent B. H. C, though ingenious, is in
error. The X on brewers* casks originated in tlw
fact, that beer above a certain strength paid lOt.
duty ; and the X became a mark to denote beer
of that better quality. The doubling and tripling
of the X are nothing but inventions of the brewers
to humbug the pubEc. 3. *!.
No Sparrows at Lindham (Vol. vli., p. 233.). —
Amongst the various responses in connexion with
the Queries given on the page above noted, com-
municated direct, the only one which I have
thought worthy of insertion in my MSS. is as fol-
lows:
'* As for there being no sparrows at Lindham, it
may be accounted for in the following legend : — A
few years ago I was in that district when I heard some
account of a person called * Tom of Lindham ; * who^
by the way, was a curious personage, and performed
some very extraordinary and out-of-the-way feats. At
on^ time he was lefl at home to protect the com from
the sparrows ; when, to save trouble, he got all of them
into the bam, and put a harrow into the window to
keep them in ; and so starved (i, e. hungered) them to
death."
Furthermore Mr. Whittaker kindly commnni*
catcd of the above Yorkshire worthy :
" At the close of Tom*s life he took it into his head
to make a road across a part of Hatfield Chase to his
own dwelling ; when, according to the legend, he em-
ployed supernatural aid : with this clause in the con-
tract, that he, Tom, should not inquire any particulars
as to the character of his assistants or helpmates. One
day, however, being more curious than prudent, he
looked behind him ; his workmen immediately disap-
peared, and Tom of Lindham was no more heard of»
His road still remains in the state he left it."
M. AlSLABIE DeNHAIT.
Plersebridge, near Darlington, Durham.
Theohaldle BotiUer (Vol. viii., 5. 366.).— Theo-
bald le Botiller was an infant at his father*8 deatli,
1206. He had livery in 1222 ; and in 9 Hen. IIL»
Bto. 10. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
573
1225, married Robesia or Rose de Verdun, not
Vernon* She was so great an heiress that she
retuned her own name, and her posterity also bore
it. She founded the Abbey of Grace Dieu,
Liecestershire, in 1239; and diei 1247-8. Her
husband died in 1230, leaving two sons : Jolm de
Verdun, who inherited, and Nicholas, who died in
Ireland without issue ; and one daughter Maud,
who married John FitzAlan, Earl of Arundel.
Walter Deyebeux.
Hampton Court Palace.
Vault at Richmond, Yorkshire (Vol. viii., p. 388.).
—Touching the " vault," or underground passage,
"that goeth under the river" of Swale, from the
Castle of Richmond to the priory of St. Martin,
every tradition, i, e. as to its whereabouts, is, I
believe, now wholly lost.
Your Querist, however, who seems to feel an
interest in that beautiful and romantic portion of
the north countrie, will perhaps welcome the fol-
lowing mythe, which is connected, it is possible,
"with the identical vault which is depictured by
Speed in his Plan of Richmond. It was taken
down from the lips of a great-grand-dame by one
of her descendants, both of whom a?'e still living,
for the gratification of your present correspon-
dent, who, like Luther,
** Would not for any quantity of gold part with the
wonderful tales which he has retained from his earliest
childhood, or met with in his progress through life."
But to my legend :
Once upon a time a man, walking round Rich-
mond Castle, was accosted by another, who took
him into a vennel, or underground passage, below
the castle; where he beheld a vast multitude of
people lying as if they were sleeping. A horn
and a sword were presented to him : the horn to
blow, and the sword to draw ; in order, as ftiid
his guide, to release them from their slumbers.
And when he had drawn the sword half out, the
sleepers began to move ; which frightened him so
much, that he put it back into the sheath : when
instantly a voice exclaimed,
" Potter 1 Potter Thompson !
If thou had cither drawn
The sword, or blown the horn.
Thou had been the luckiest man that ever was born.'*
So ends the Legend of the Richmond Sleepers
and Potter Thompson ; which, mayhap, is scarcely
worth preserving, were it not that it has preserved
and handed down the characteristic, or rather
trade, cognomen and surname of its timorous at
least, if not cowardly, hero.
M. Ajslabie Dekham.
Piersebridge, near Darlington, Durham.
Lord Audley's Attendants at Poictiers (Vol. viii.,
p. 494.). — A notice of the arguments in opposition
to the statement, rested mainly on the grant of
arms by John Touchet, Lord Audley, to the de-
scendant of Sir James de Mackworth, in con-
sideration of his having been one of these esquires,
occurs in £lore*s Rutland, p. 130. and p. 224. And
it appears to be satisfactorily shown by the grant
itself, that it was not made on account of the
services of Sir James. J. P. Jun.
Portraits at BrickwaU House (Vol. vii., p. 406.).
— Tmmerzeel says, in his Levens der Kunstschilders
(^Lives of the Painters), vol. iii. pp. 238,239. :
" Thomas van der Wilt, born at Piershil in the
district of Putten, was a disciple of Verkolje at Delflt,
where he also settled. He painted portraits, domestic
scenes, &c., which were not free from stiffness. He
also engraved in mezzodnto after Brouwer, Schalken,
and others. His drawings were engraved by his son
William, who died young."
He was living in 1701, and was probably
grandson of a person of the same name who re-
sided in 1622 at Soetermeer near Ley den, for
in the register of the villages of Rhynland are
found :
«* Jan Thomas van der Wilt and Maritgen Pietersdr,
his wife, with Thomas, Maritgen, Pieter, Cornelis,
Grietge, Jannctge, and Ingethen, their children.**
The portrait painted by Terburgh probably
represents Andries de GraefF, who, in 1672, is
called by Wagenaar, in his Vaderlandsche Hist, of
that year (p. 82.), late burgomaster of Amster-
dam. It is then necessary to ascertain whether
this late burgomaster died in 1674. The family de
Graeff also resided at Delft, where several of its
members became magistrates. Elsevib.
The portrait of the old gentleman is, in my
opinion, doubtless that of Andries de Graeff, who
was elected burgomaster of Amsterdam in 1660,
and filled the office several times afterwards,
although after the year 1670 his name no more
appears on the list of burgomasters, which can
very well agree with the date of death (1674) on
the portrait. — From the Navorscher,
A. J. VAN DEE Aa.
Gorinchenu
The Words ''Mob'' and ''Cash" (Vol. viii.,
pp. 386. 524.). — Clebicus Rusticus will find
the origin and first introduction of the word mob
fully stated in Trench's Lectures on the Study of
Words (p. 124. fourth ed.). In addition to the
quotations there made, Clericus Rusticus may
refer to Dryden's preface to Cleomenes (1692), to
the 230th number of The Tatler, written by Swift
(an. 1710), and to the Dean's Introduction to Polite
Conversation.
Cash, — What Lord Holland may have meant
by a legitimate English word it is hard to say.
Dr. Johnson derives it from the Fr. caisse (or
casse), which Cotgrave interprets " a box, a case^
574
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 215.
or chest ; also, a merchant's auh or counter.**
Todd confirms the correctness of Johnson's ety-
molo<;j by a usage in Winwood's Memorials;
where tlie Countess of Shrewsbury is said to have
20,000/. in her cash. And Richardson farther
confirms it by a quotation from Sir W. Temple ;
and one from Sherwood, who explains cashier,
" Qui garde le casse de Targent de merchand ; "
and a merchant's cashy *' casse de merchand.'* Q.
Bloomsbury.
English Clergyman in Spain (Vol. viii., p. 410.).
— The clergyman was perhaps attached to the
army of England in Spain, in the capacity of chap-
lain. I recommend a search for the record of
his licence, which will very probably recite his
appointment ; and this record is most likely to be
found with the proper officer of the diocese of
Lonilon, in Doctors' Commons. I have seen one
extraordinary discovery of information of the kind
now sought by D. Y., in this quarter ; and D. Y.
will probably be so kind as to note his success in
" N. & Q.," if he obtains his information here or
elsewhere. E.
The Cid (Vol. viii., p. 367.).— I find in the
catalogue of my library, the greatest part of which
was destroyed by fire in 1849, amongst other
books relating to The Cid, the following :
** Romancero, e Historia del muy valeroso Caval-
lero el Cid Ruy Diaz de Bivar, en lengu^ije antiguo,
recopilado per Juan de Escobar. En esta ultima im-
pression van anadidos muchos romances, que basta
aora no han sido impresses, ni divulgados, 12mo. con
]icen9ia. En Pamplona, por Martin de Zavala, ano
ITOe."
*' Romancero e Historia del mui valeroso Cabellero
el Cid Rui-diaz de Vibar, en lenguage antiguo, reco-
pilado por Juan de Escobar, neuva edicion, reformada
sobre las antiguas, aiiadida e illustrada con varias notas
y composiciones del mismo tiempo y asunto para su
mas facil intelligencia, y adomada con un epitome de la
Historia verdadera del Cid. Por D. Vicente Gonzales
del Reguero. 1 2mo. con licencia, Madrid, Imprenta de
Cano, 1818."
In Thorpe's Catalogue, 1841, No. 1355, is an
edition, 12mo., Segovia, 1629. John Adamson.
Exterior Stoups (Vol. v., p. 560. ; Vol. vi.,
pp. 18. 86. 160. 345. 497. 591., &c.).— -Having
introduced this subject to " N. & Q.," you will
perhaps allow me to return to it, by adding to the
list of churches where exterior stoups may be seen,
the names of Leigh and Shrawley, Worcestershire.
A recent visit to these places made me aware of
the existence of the stoups. That at Leigh is in a
shattered condition, and is on the south side of
the western doorway : it is now covered in by a
porch of later date. That at Shrawlej is on the
eastern side of the south door, and is hollowed out
within the top of a short column. Shrawley
Church possesses many points of interest for the
antiquary : among which may be mentioned, a
Norman window pierced through one of the bat«
tresses of the chancel. Among the noticeable
things at Leigh Church is a rude sculpture of the
Saviour placed exteriorly over the north door of
the nave, in a recess, with semicircular heading
and Norman pillars. The rector is graduslij
restoring this fine church.
CUTHBERT BSDK, B.A*
Oreen Jugs used by the Templars (Vol. viii.,
p. 171.). — In clearing out the ground for the
foundation of Raymond Buildings in Gray's Inn,
about thirty years since, two earthen green jugs
were dug up, which are preserved by the bendiers
as a memento of " the olden times."
They will hold very little more than half a pint
of liquor, are tall and of good proportions, but so
small at the top as almost to preclude their being
used to drink out of, and having a lip it is sur-
mised that they held the portion assigned to eadt
student, who was also supplied with a drinking
horn.
I have seen a jug of the same description in the
possession of a gentleman in Lincoln's Inn, which
he informed me was brought to light in excavating
for the new hall. It is therefore probable that
all the inns of court were accustomed to provide
jugs of the same description. F. Whitmaxsh.
" Peccavi," I have Scinde (Vol. viii., p. 490.). —
Your correspondent Mr. G. Llotd, who says he
does **not know on what authority*' it is stated
that " the old and lamented warrior. Sir Charles
Nq^ier, wrote on the conquest of Scinde, Peccaoil^
is informed that the sole author of the despatph
was Mr, Punch. Cuthbbrt Bi^>B, B.A.
In a note touching these well-known words, Mb.
G. Llotd says, " It is also stated, I do not know on
what authority, that the old and lamented warrior,
Sir Charles Napier, wrote on the conquest* of
Scinde, Peccavi!^ The author of Democritus m
London, with the Mad Pranhs and Comical Cbn-
ceits. of Motley and Robin Good-FeUoic, thus al-
ludes to this saying in that work. I presume he
had good authority for so doing :
iS'ir P. " What exclaimed the gallant Napier,
Proudly flourishing his rapier !
To the army and the navy.
When he conquer*d Scinde ? * Peccavi f * •*
A SUBSCBIBIB.
Raffaelle^s Sposalizio fVol.vii., p.595.; Vol. viii.,
p. 61.) — The reason why the ring is placed on
Deo. 10. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIE&
57*
the third finger of the right hand of the Blessed
Yirffin in Raffaelie's " Sposalizio " at Milan, and
in Ghirlandais^s frescoe of the same subject in the
Santa Groce at Florence, is to be found in the
fact that the right hand has always been con-
sidered the hand of power or dignity, and the left
hand of inferiority or subjection. A married
woman always wears her ring on the third finger
of the left hand to signify her subjection to her
husband. But it has been customary among
artists to represent the Blessed Virgin with the
ring on the right hand, to signify her superiority
to St. Joseph from her surpassing dignity of Mo-
ther of God. Still she is not always represented
BO, for in Beato Angelico's painting of the marriage
of Mary and Joseph she receives the ring on her
left hand. See woodcut in Mrs. Jameson's Le-
gends of Madonna^ p. 170. In the Marriage of
the Blessed Virgin by Vanloo, in the Louvre, she
also receives the ring on the left hand. Giotto,
Taddeo Gaddi, Perugino, &c., have painted the
"Sposalizio," but I have not copies by me to
refer to. Cetbep.
Early Use of Tin, — Derivation of the Name
of Britain (Vol. viii., pp. 290. 344. 445.). —Your
correspondent G.W. having been unable to inform
Db. Hincks who first suggested the derivaticm of
Britannia from Baratanac or Bratanac, I have
the pleasure to satisfy him on this point by re-
ferring him to Bochart's Geographia Sacra^ lib. i.
c. xxxix. In that great storehouse of historical
information, the Memoirs of the Academy of In-
scriptions and Belles- Lett res, there are some pro-
found researches by Melot and others, in which
may be found answers to all the Queries proposed
by G. W.
The islands, rivers, mountains, cities, and re-
markable places of Phoenician colonies, had even
in the time of the habitation of the Greeks and
Romans Phoenician names, which, according to
the spirit of the ancient languages of the East,
indicated clearly the properties of the places
which bore those names. See instances in Bochart,
ubi supra ; Sammes*s Britannia Antigua lUustraia^
or the Antiquities of Ancient Britain derived from
ihe Phoenicians ; and D'Hancarville's Preface to
Hamilton*s Etruscan, 8fc, Antiquities,
BlBLIOTHECAR. ChETHAM.
Unpublished Epigram hy Sir Walter Scott
(Vol. vii., pp. 498. 576.). — The following extract
is from the Gentleman* s Magazine, March, 1824,
p. 194. :
" Mr, J. Lawrence of Somers Town observes : * In
the summer of the year 1770 I was on a visit at Beau-
mont Hall on the coast of Essex, a few miles distant
from Harwich. It was then the residence of Mr. Can-
ham. ... I was invited to ascend the attics in order
to read some lines, imprinted by a cowboy of preco-
cious intellect. I found these in handsome, neatly
executed letters, printed and burnished with leaf-gold,
on the wall of his sleeping-room. They were really
golden verses, and may well be styled Pytlmgorean
from their point, to wit :
< Earth goes upon the earth, glittering like gold ;
Earth goes to the earth sooner than 'twould ;
Earth built upon the earth castles and towers;
Earth said to the Earth, All shall be ours.*
The curiosity of these lines so forcibly impressed them
on my memory, that time has not been able to efface a
tittle of them. But from what source did the hoy obtain
them ? "
Permit me to repeat this Query ? J.R.M., M.A.
Derivation of the Word " Humbug " (Yol. viii,
passim). — Not being satisfied with any of the
derivations of this word hitherto proposed in your
pages, I beg to suggest that perhaps it may be
traced to a famous dancing master who flourished
about the time when the word first came into use.
The following advertisement appeared in the
Dublin Freeman's Journal in Jan. 1777 :
" To the Nobility,
" As Monsieur Hurabog does not intend for the
future teaching abroad after 4 o'clock, he, at the request
of his scholars, has opened an academy for young ladies
of fashion to practise minuets and cotillions. He had
his first assembly on Friday lasst, and intends continuing
them every Friday durirg the winter. He does not
admit any gentlemen, and his number of ladies is
limited to 32 ; and as Mrs. Humbog is very conversant
in the business of the Toilet Table, the ladies may
depend on being properly accommodated. Mr. Humbog
having been solicited by several gentlemen, he intends
likewise to open an academy for them, and begs that^
those who chuse to become subscribers will be so good
as to send him their addresses, that he may have the.
honour of waiting upon them to inform them of his
terms and days. Mr. Humbog has an afternoon
school three times a week for little ladies and gentle-
men not exceeding 14 years of age. Terms of his
school are one guinea per month and one guinea
entrance. Any ladies who are desirous of knowing
the terms of his academy may be informed by appoint-
ing Mr. Humbog to wait upon them, which he will do
on the shortest notice. Capel St. 21 Jan. 1777."
Omicbok.
Bees (Vol. viii., p. 440.).-- In the midland
counties the first migration of the season is a
swarm, the second a cast, and the third a spindle,
Ebioa.
Topsy Turvy (Vol. viii., p. 385.). — I have
always understood this to be a corruption of
" Topside t'other way," and I still think so.
Wm. Hazel.
Parish Clerks and Politics (Vol. viii., p. 56.). —
In the excitement prevalent at the trial of Queen
Caroline, I remember a choir, in a village not a
hundred miles from Wallingford, Berks, singing
676
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 215,
with great gusto the 1st, 4th, lltb, and 12th
verses of 35th Psalm in Tate and Brad/s New
Version. Wm. Hazel.
Phantom Bells—'' The Death Bell" (Vol. vii.
passini), — I have never met, in any work on folk-
lore and popular superstitions, any mention of
that unearthly bell, whose sound is borne on the
death-wind, and heralds his doom to the hearer.
Mil kle alludes to it in his fine ballad of '' Cumnor
Halle r
** The death-belle thrice was heard to ring.
An aerial voice was heard to calle.
And thrice the raven flapi)*d its wing,
Arounde the towers of Cumnor Ilalle.'*
And Rogers, in his lines " To an Old Oak :"
** There once the steel-clad knight reclined.
His sable plumage tempest-tossed :
And as the death-beU smote the wind.
From towers long fled by human kind.
His brow the hero crossed."
When ships go down at sea during a terrible
tempest, it is said the '* death- beir' is often dis-
tinctly Leard amid the storm- wind. And in tales
of what is called Gothic superstition, it assists in
the terrors of the supernatural.
Sir W. Scott perhaps alluded to the superstition
in the lines :
" And the kelpie ran^.
And the sea-maid sang.
The dirge of lovely Rosabelle."
ElBIONKACH.
Porter Family (Vol. viii., p. 364.). — Full par-
ticulars of the existing branch of this ancient
family can be afforded by the Rev. Malcom Mac-
donald of South End, Essex, chaplain to Lady
Tamar Sharpe, the aunt and guardian of the re-
presentatives of Sir R. K. Porter. M. H. J.
Thavies Inn.
The Mitred Abbot in Wroughton Church, Wilts
(Vol. viii., p. 411.). — The figure was painted in
fresco, not on a pillar, but on the spandril-space
between two arches. The vestments, as far as I
can make out, are an alb, a tunicle and a cope,
and mitre. The hands do not appear to hold any-
thing, and I see nothing to show it to represent a
mitred abbot rather than a bbhop. The colours
of the cope and tunicle were red and green, the
exterior of the cope and the tunicle being of one
colour, the interior of the cope of the other. The
figure was the only perfect one when I visited the
church, and the rain was washing it out even as
I sketched ; but there had been one between every
two arches, and there were traces of colour
throughout the aisle, and the designs appeared to
me unusually elegant. I believe my slight sketch
to be all that now remains ; and I shall be glad
to send a copy of it to your correspondent if he
wishes for it^ and will signify how I may convey
it to him.
Passage in Virgil (Vol. viii., p. 270.). — Is this
the passage referred to by Doctor Johnson ?
" Nunc scio, quid sit Amor : duris in cotibus ilium
Aut Tniarus, aut Rhodope, aut extremi Garamantes,
Nee generis nostri puerum, nee sanguinis, edunt."
Virgil : Bucolica, Eel. viiL 1. 43.
"• The shepherd in Virgil grew at last acquainted
with Love, and found him a native of the rocks."
Dr. Johnson found his reward not in vain solicit*
ations to patrons, but in the fruits of his literary
labours.
The famous lines in Spenser's "Colin Clout's
come home again," * on the instability and hollow*
ness of patronage, may occur to the reader :
** Full little knowest thou, that hast not tride.
What hell it is in suing long to bide :
To lose good days that might be better spent.
To waste long nights in pensive discontent.
To speed to-day, to be put back to-morrow.
To feed on hope, to pine with fear and sorrow.
To fret thy soul with crosses and with cares ;
To eat thy heart through comfortless despaires,*' &c.
F.
Sir Anthony Fitzherbert, Chief Justice (Vol. viii.,
Sp. 158. 276.). — In "A Letter to a Convocation
Ian," which was recently edited by a frequent
contributor to your pages, the Rev. W. Fsaser,
B.C.L., and is favourably mentioned by you, I
find the following sentence, declaring that Sir
Anthony Fitzherbert was Chief Justice :
" I must admit that it is said in the second part of
Rollers Abridgment, that the Archbishop of Canterbury
was prohibited to hold such assemblies by Fitzherbert^
Chief Justice, because he had not the King*8 licence.
But he adds that the Archbishop would not obey it;
and he quotes Speed for it." — P. 88. of original pam-
phlet, and p. 86. of Mr. Eraser's reprint.
Mr. Fraser merely refers to Sir Anthony
Fitzherbert as being made judge of the Common
Fleas in 1523, and does not enter into this ques-
tion, which deserves investigation. M. W. B.
** To put a spoke in his wheel" (Vol. viii.,
pp. 269. 351.). — W. C.'s answer to G-. K.'s in-
quiry is so very facetious, that I must confess I
do not understand it.
As to the meaning of the expression, I think
there can be no doubt. Ainsworth interprets it,
" Scrupulum injecisti mihi, spem meam remo-
ratus es."
In Dutch, "Een spaak in tViel steeken,** is
"To traverse, thwart, or cross a design." See
Sewel's Woordenboeh,
The effect is similar to that o'f spiking cannon.
And it is not improbable that spoke, known by the
[ ♦ In Mother Hubberd's Tale. —Ed.]
Dec. 10. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
m
Ignorant to form part of tte wheel, has been 1
tfaem corrupted from spike : and that the act
driving a ipihe into the nave, bo as to prevent i.
wheel fi'om turning on its axle. '
Bloomsbur;.
BaUina Cattle (Vol. TJii., p. 4110.-0. L.RJ
inquires about Ballina Casile, Castlebar, and
the general hlstorj, descriptions, &c. of the c
Majo. In the catalogue of mj manuacrlpt cc
lections, prefixed to my Annals of Boyle, or Ear
HUtory of Irelaiid (upwards of 200 volumuE
"Sa. 37. purports to be " one volume Svo., co)
taining lull compilations of records and ever
connecled with the county of Mayo, with referen'
to the authorities," and it has special notices
Castlebar, Cong, Burrishoole, Kilgarvey, Louj
Conn, &c., and notes of scenery and statiatit
I offered in the year 1847 to publish a hiaioi
of ibe county if I was indemnified, but I did n
succeed in my application. I have, of court
very full notices of the records, Sec. of Ballin
and the other leading localities of that interestii
but too long neglected county, which I wou
gladly draw out and assign, as I would any oth
of my innnuscript compiiaLiona, to any litera
gentleman who would pnipose to prepare tbe
for publication, or otherwise exlrnct and repa
from them as may be sought. John D'Alto
48. Summer H.11, Ditblin.
Mardle (Vol. viii., p. 411.).— This is the corre
spelling as fixed by Hal I i well. I should pr
pose to derive it from A.-S. malhelian, to spes
diaciTurse, haran<pe ; or A.-S. metkel, discoun
aeecli, conversation, (Bosworth.) Forby giv
is nurd only with the meaning; " a large pond
a sense confined to Suffolk. But his vocabula
of Enst Anjilia is especially defective in Ei
Norfolk words — an imperfection arising from 1
residence iu ihe extreme west of that county.
E. G.
Charles Diodati (Vol. viii., p. 295.). — W
Singes mentions that Dr. Fellowcs and otbi
have confounded Carlo Datl, Milton's Florenti
friend, with Charles Diodati, a schoolfellow (i
Fsiil'a, London) to whom he aildresses an Ituli
sonnet and two Latin poems. Charles Diod;
practised physic in Cheshire; died 1638, Vi
this youno; friend of Milton's a relative of Gi
vanni Diodati, who transUted the Bible in
Italian; born at Lucca about 1589; became
Protestant; died at Geneva, 1649? Mi.
Zmigerjily (Vol. viii., p. 442.). — Ma. Mo
DOCh's Query relative to Margaret Patten i
minds me of a print exhibited in the Dub
£^hibitiun, which bore the following inscriptioi
'• Mury Gore, bom at CuttonTcilh in Yorhsbi
«.D. 13B2 ; lived upwards of one hundred years
Ireland, and died in Dublin, aged 145 yean. This
print wsi done Iroin a picture taken (the word ii totn
off) when the was an hundred and forty-lhree. Vw)>
luych jiinxif, T. Chambers Jtl"
ElBIOHMACH.
"JVou- the fierce bear," ^c. (Vol. Tiii., p. 440.).
— The lines respecting wbieb 9. requests inform-
ation are from Mr. Eeble's ChrUtian Year, in the
poem for Monday in Whllsun Week. They «r*
however, misquoted, and should run thus
" Now the fierce bear and leopard keeD
Are perish'tt as tfiey ne'er had been.
Oblivion is tbeir liome."
G. R. M.
nOTES OH BOOKS, BTC.
!lr; of Hie lilghest order is appreciated in
will n
reader!
'omtry Ckinhyard
> dedicate (heir talents to its Illustration.
just issued by Mr. Cundall, wbich is illustrated on
every page with engravings on wood from drawings
by Birkett Foster, George Thomas, and a Lady, The
artists have caught the spirit of the poet, and tbdr
ranciful creations Imve been transretred to the wood
with the greatest delicacy by the engravers, — the re-
sult being a most tasteful little volume, which must
take a foremost rank among the gift-books of tho
coming Christmas.
Boots Received. — Smith's Dictionary of Gmh and
Soman GlBsraphy, by various Writer), Part VIII,,
which eitends from the conclusion of the admirable
article on Etruria to Germania, and includes GaSla
Citolpinit and Trantaipina, which scarcely required
the initials (C. L.) to point out the accomplished
scholar by whom they are written Darling's Cycla-
pitdia BiMiograpUca: Parts XIV. and XV. eitend from
O. M. Milchttt to Matim or De Sacchi. Tbe value of
this analytical, bibliographical, and biographical Li-
brary Manual will not be fully appreciable until tbe
work is completed. — Tht National Mitcdlany, Vol. I.
The first volume of this magaiine of General Litera-
ture is just issued in a handsome form, suitable to the
typographical excellence for which this well-directed
and well-conducted miscellany is remarkable. — Rtmaint
of POyan Smcoadom, princiiially from Tumuli in Enyland,
Part VIII. : containing Bronze Bucket, found at
Cuddesden, Oifordshire; and Fibula, found near Kl-
lesdon, Leicestershire, Wo would suggest to Mr.
Akerman that the Branie Bucket is scarcely an el-
omple of an objtct of archnological inlerest, which
requires to be drawn of tlie size of the original, and
coloured from it ; and that the value of his useful work
would be increased by his adhering to bis origiual
arrangement, by which the illustrative letter-press ap-
peared In the same part with the engraving to which
it referred.
NOTES AND Qn£BIE&
[No. 916.
BOOKS AND ODD VOLUMES
•KAVno TO rOKCHU*.
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Jonu-i (or Na;liiut) Rhhoni, bf Wilkir. 1 VoU. St
WllB.>fO»ch's LIH. 5 Vols.
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*aiF-i»w ifjiiMff,', aurf runrr-i pnt'Tt ii^nitrt^i iM. ati
auk prrficUn ulnlmV ■•y rriulu. T»e lUn Omim I, .jf all
alirrt tmul ^l/HUnl lo trow, i i'4l il ti prfRrtH' la aU -ilhrrt^
£RINCE OF WALES'S
SKETCH-BOX. ^ConlalMiw Colonra,
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
exctuitd; tiMd at all the Pho-
Dirw^rfrniucliJtialpftlKiiDUflcinfaDrikA^,
Su.
T OiWll. Ew,.
nM^tMH.— Wllll4m1Uc>i.B4ihain.M.I>.
arm T^d BinHuh lemporMTfl"
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KDS n/.sT^V^'i Chui^nidi uidMEsSlta.
PHOTOGRAPHIC CAME-
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tkemiUh
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 215.
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CONTENTS.
>TI8:— Page
Teaching a Dog French, by Arthur Paget - - 581
The Religion of the Russians - - - - 582
JLeicestershire Epitaphs, bv William Kelly - - 582
IyODgfellow*s ** Reaper ana the Flowers *' - - 583
lliNOR Notes : — " Receipt " or " Recipe " —Death of
Philip III. of Spain — Churchwardens — Epigram —
Oxford Commemoration Squib, 1849 — Professor
Macgillivray— Manifesto of the Emperor Nicholas - 683
DBRIES : —
William Cookworthy, the Inventor of British Porcelain,
by J. Prideaux ------ 585
Catholic Floral Directories, &c. - - - - 685
George AIsop ------ 685
JtfiMOR Queries : — B. L. M. — Member of Parliament
electing himself— " Suaviter in modo, fortiter in re "
—Jacobite Garters — Daughters taking their Mothers*
Names — General Eraser — A Punning Divine —
Contango — Pedigree to the Time of Alfred —
*' Service is no inheritance"— Antiquity of Fire-irons
— General Wolfe at Nantwich — " Corporations have
no Souls," &C..— Leeming Family— MS. Poems and
Songs — Bishop Watson ... - - 585
3fiNOR Queries with Answehs : — Herbert's " Memoirs
of the Last Years of Charles I.*' — *- Liturgy of the
Ancients " — " Ancient hallowed Dee " — Who was
'True Blue ? — Charge of Plagiarism against Paley —
Webers " Cecilia " — Andrew Johnson — MS. by
"Glover — Gurney's Short-hand — Spurious Don
"Quixote - - - - - • ' 587
IPLIE8 : —
Pronunciation of Hebrew Names and Words in the
Bible, by T. J. Buckton, &c. -
Lord Halifax and Mrs. Catherine Barton, by Weld
Taylor -------
Inscriptions in Books - - . . .
Praying to the West - - - - -
•* Green Eyes," by C. Forbes, &c. - - -
The Myrtle Bee, by W. R. D. Salmon - - -
Tin
Milton's Widow ------
Books chained to Desks in Churches— Old Parochial
Libraries -------
The Court- house, by P. H. Fisher - - -
Photography On the Simplicity of the Calotype Pro-
cess, by Dr. Diamond - - - - -
Heplirs TO Minor QuERiE8:—Bolike— Stage-coaches
— Birthplace of King Edward V. — Ringing Church
Bells at Death — What is the Origin of " Getting into
a Scrape ? " — High Dutch ami Low Dutch — Dis-
covery of Planets — Gloves at Fairs _ Awk — Tenet
— Lovett of Astwell— Irish lth}mes — Passage in
Boerhaave — Unkid — To split Paper — La Fleur des
Saints — Dr. Butler and St. Edmund's Bury, &c. - 600
. 590
590
591
692
Wi
593
594
595
596
596
[ISCBLLANEOUS : —
Notes on Books, &c.
Books and Odd Volumes wanted -
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisements . - .
- 606
- 607
- 607
. 6U8
V0L.VIIL — No.216.
TEACHI17G A DOG FSEHCH.
«N. &Q." the other day (Vol. viii., p. 464.)
contained a carious tale of a cat : will you insert
as a pendent the following one of a dog ? The
supposition that D. Julio was some obnoxious
Frenchman protected by the Government, seems
necessary to account for the " teaehyng a dogg
frenche *' in front of his door constituting such a
dire offence. His name occurs, if I remember
rightly, in Dr. Dee's Diary (Cam. Soc.), but I have
not the book at hand to refer to. Perhaps some
of your correspondents may inform me who he
was. The original is in the Lanedowne MS.
(114. No. 8.) in the British Museum; and the
fact of its being amongst Lord Burleigh's papers
shows that the occurrence took place between 1571
and 1596, the respective dates of his appointment
as " 1 tresurer " and his death. Arthur Paget.
** I), JuVuit Abstract of the Deposicdns of ye tvitnestet
sicorne touching ye speches of John Paget.
" To proue that one William (sic) Paget, on the
v*** day of this present moueth, being Fry day, be-
tkwixt viii and ix of the clocke at nyght, went vp
and down teaehyng a dogg frenche.
** 1. M''* Karter, a jentil woman borne, sayeth, that
about the same tym, she did hear the said Paget, that
he wolJ teache his dogg to speak frenche.
<*2. M'^ Anne Coot, a jentilwoman, affirmeth the
same.
" 3. One William Poyser, ye*man, sayeth, that he
harde Paget saye that he wold make his dogg speake
as good frenche as any of them.
" 4. James Hudson sayeth, that standing at his
maister s doore he did hear Paget speake to bis dogg
in a straunge language, but what language he knew
not
** 5. Edward, a grosser, is to be deposed that he
harde Paget fsay, I will teache my dogg to speake
frenche, and was talking with his dogg in frenche.
** To proue that the sayd Paget did say, Shortlye will
come vnto the realme frenche dogges, 1 hope I shall
see thaine all rootted out.
« 1. M''* Karter sayeth, she harde Paget say,
Shortlie wil come vnto the realme frenche dogges, I
hope 1 shall see thame all rootted out.
582
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No.
« 2. M'^ Anne Coot affirmeth the same.
"3. William Poyser sayeth, he harde Paget say,
Within this week or two, there will come a great
many frenche dogges.
"4. M'^ Eleonore Borgourneci vppon her othe
affirmeth the same.
" 5. The 1 maior writteth in his Ife to my 1 tresurer
that Paget affirmeth before him that he wold the
realme were ryd of all yll straungers, adding this
qualification. [Qualification not given.]
** To proue the great assembly that was with Paget,
before D. Julio came home to his howse.
** 1. John Polton saieth, when his maister came home
there was about a hundreth persone of men, women,
and chyldren, vp and downe there.
" 2. James Hudson sayeth, that he thinketh there
XX
was about lui people assembled in the streett before
this examinat his maister came home.
** 3. Richard Preston sayeth, that there was in his
iudgement aboue a hundred people in the streett before
this deponets maister came home, and after his m' came
home the nomber of the people were greater.
" To proue that the sayd Paget did resiste to the
constable when he came to apprehend him.
** 1. William Poyser sayeth, when the constable came
to apprehende the sayd Paget he kept the constable
out with force, and sayd he should not enter on him.
** 2. James Hudson sayeth, Paget wold not suffer the
constable to entere vnto his hdwse, but sayd if any
man will entere vnto this howse, yf it were not f'
felony or treason to apprehend him, he wold kill hym,
yf he could, f ' he sayd his bowse was his castell.
*'S. Richard Preston sayeth, when the constable
came to apprehende Pagett, he hauing a bill or halberd
in his hand, did keape him out of his howse, and sayd,
he showld not enter except it were f ' felonye or treason,
or that he brought my 1 maiors warrant."
THE BBLIOION OF THB RUSSIANS.
Public attention being vcrj particularly directed
towards the Russian nation at the present time, a
few remarks regarding some peculiarities in their
manner of worship, &c., which probably are not
generally known, may be interesting.
I have been for some time past endeayouring
to determine the exact nature of the homage the
Russians pay to the "gods" — whether they should
be called images or pictures f and whether the
Russians should be considered idolaters or not?
Whenever a Russian passes a church, his cus-
tom is to cross himself (some do so three times,
accompanying it with bowing). In every room
in their houses an image (or picture) is placed in
the east corner, before which they uncover their
heads and cross themselves on entering.
Their churches are filled with these their repre-
sentatives of the deity, and it is very curious to
observe a devout Russian kissing the toe c
crossing himself before another, while to a
he will in addition prostrate himself, eve
his head to the ground ; this latter is als
frequently done at intervals during the a
tion of their services : but their church
always open, so that if any one wants to p
votion to a particular image (or picture) wl
service is going on, he can do so.
I understand that they consider they m
the deity through these representations,
present day these gods are called obraaz, of
the literal translation is image. The old Scl
word for them is eekona^ which was forme
general use, and has exactly the same me
answering to the Greek word €ucup. As fa
can make out, neither of these words can be
lated picture ; but I do not remember ti
found this point touched upon in any b<
have read on Russia or its religion; and
if any correspondent is able to give us i
information on the subject, he will do so.
The Russians also believe in relics, in
efficacy in healing diseases, working other
cles, &c. Notwithstanding this, a very
time ago, a new relic was found in the so
Russia, and a courier being immediately desp
with it to the Emperor at St. Petersburg ;
arrival, his Imperial Majesty (expecting
important news regarding his operations
neighbourhood of Turkey), when told his c
exclaimed, " Away with the relic ! it is t
put an end to such nonsense." Would th
were to be carried out ! But their supere
seem too deeply rooted to be done away m
a short time. J.
LEICESTEBSniBS BPITAFR8.
Having seen only one epitaph from this <
among those which have appeared in '* N.
# annex a few specimens, which you may p
deem worth inserting in your pages.
Burbage :
** These pretty babes, who we did love.
Departed from us like a dove ;
These babes, who we did much adore,
Is gone, and cannot oome no more.**
Hinckley :
** My days on earth they were but few.
With fever draughts and cordials few.
They wasted like the morning dew.**
Braunstone ^
« All triumph yesterday, to-day all terror I
Nay, the fair morning overcast ere even :
Nay, one short hour saw well and dead. War's
Having' Death's swift stroke unpereeived givei
Bso. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
£88
Another:
" An honest, prudent wife was she ;
And was always inclin*d
A tender mother for to be,
And to her neighbours kind.**
Belgrave. This I quote from memory ; it may
not be verbally, but it is substantially correct :
** Laurence Stetly slumbers here ;
He lived on earth near forty year ;
October's eight>and-twentieth day
His soul forsook its house of clay,
And thro* the pure ether took its way.
We hope his soul doth rest in heaven.
1777."
IM'ewtown Linfordi adjoining Bradgate Park. In
ihis churchyard is a tombstone on which is en-
graved only the letters of the alphabet and the
Hmple numerals. The story goes, that be who
lies below, an illiterate inhabitant of the village
in the last century, whose name, I believe, is now
forgotten, being very anxious that, after death, a
tombstone should be erected to perpetuate his
memory, and bdng fearful that his relatives might
neglect to do so, came to Leicester to purchase
one himself. Seeing this stone in the mason's
workshop (where it was used by the workmen as
a pattern for the letters and figures), he bought it
" a bargain," supposing it would serve his purpose
as well as a new one, and after his decease it was
placed at the head of his grave, where it now ap-
pears.
AH Saints' churchyard, Leicester. On two chil-
dren of John Bracebridge, who were both named
John, and died infants :
** Both John and John soon lost their lives,
And yet, by God, John still survives.'*
Throsby (Hist o/Leic.) relates that Bishop Thur-
low, at one of his visitations, had the words by
Ood altered to thro* God. William Kellt.
Leicester.
LONGFBLLOw's ^BEAPEB Aim THE FLO WEBS.*'
On looking over, a short time ago, a boot of
German songs, I was much struck by the similarity
of thought, and even sometimes of expression,
between the above piece from Mr. Longfellow*s
Voices of the Night, and a song by Luise Eeichardt,
a few verses of which I subjoin ; as perhaps the
song may not be known to some of your corre-
spondents.
«• It is a favourite theme," as Sir W. Scott says, •« of
laborious dulness to trace such coincidences, because
fhey appear to reduce genius of the higher order to the
usual standard of humanity, and of course to bring the
author nearer to a level with his critics."
It is not, however, with the vie^ of detracting
from the originality of Mr. Longfellow, thai these
two small pieces are put side by side ; for possibly
the song alluded to was never seen by our trans-
atlantic neighbour, but merely for the purpose
of showing how the poets treat the same, and cer-
tainly not very novdl subject.
**DBa SCHNITTXa TOD.
(Von Luise Reichardt.)
** £s ist ein Schnitter, der heisst Tod,
Der hat Gewalt vom hbchsten Gott.
Heut* wetzt er das Messer,
Es schneid't schon viel besser.
Bald wird er drein schneiden,
Wir miissen's nur lelden.
Hiite dich, schbn's BlUmelein !
" Was heut' noch griin und frisch dasteht,
Wird morgen schon hinweg gemaht ;
Die edlen Narzissen,
Die Zierden der Wiesen
Die schon* Nyagnithen,
Die turkischen Binden.
Hute dich, schbn*s Blumelein !
*' Viel hundert tausend ungezahlt.
Was nur unter die Slchel fallt :
Ihr Rosen, ihr Lilien,
Euch wird er austilgen,
Auch die Kaiserkronen
Wird er nicht verschonen.
Hiite dich, schbn's Bliimelein I
" Trotz, Tod 1 Komm her, ich fiircht* dich nicht I
Trotz, eil daher in einem Schnitt I
Werd' ich nur verletzet,
So werd' ich versetzet,
In den himralischen Garten,
Auf den wir alle warten,
Freue dich, schon's Bliimelein ! "
J. C. B*
" Receipt " or " Recipe,*^ — In one of Mr. Byle's-
popular tracts, " Do you pray f " Wertheim and*
Mackintosh: London, 1853, occurs the following,
expression, p. 18. :
" What is the best receipt for happiness?'*
Is the use of " receipt " for " recipe " to be ad-
mitted into the English language ? W. E.
Death of Philip III, of Spain, — D'lsraeli, lA
his Curiosities of Literature, states to the efiect
that this king's fatal illness was induced by the
overheating of a brazier, whereof state etiquette
forbad the removal until the person in regular
attendance should arrive. For this statement
he quotes no authority, and consequently Mb.
Bolton Cobnbt, in his Illustrations of the Cfu".,
riosities of Literature (2nd ed., p. 87.)» discredits;
the story.
It b singular that Mb. Cobnet should have for*
gotten that the anecdote it givezi by the Man&»hal
564
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 2I&
de BaMompierre, who was at Madrid at the timi
of tba kings deatb ; tbe Marechol's informant wb
the Marquis de Fobar, mho was present at th
Ktne. Is not tbia sufficient? (See Mtmoires d
Sattontpierre, under tbe date of lltkof Marcb
1621, vol. J. p. 548. of the edition of Cologne
166S.) . C.V
ChurcTiwardetu. — In an old ecrap-book in mj
posseaaion, I met nith the following, wbicb, sboulc
jou deem it of sufficient interest, I shall be glad t<
aee inserted in " N. & Q." The print appeara t<
be about sixtjor aeventj years old, Dnd evidentlj
from a newspaper :
tiquitf, they baling been iirst sppalnud at the Africsr
Council, held under Celestine and Bonirace, about tlit
year of our Lard 433. These oBicerB have at different
periods been distinguished by different appellations
Dcftntora, (Economi, and Prapoiiti Ecclesia, Ttiiti
SynodaUt, &c. In the lime of Edirard III. tliev irert
called Church Reies, as wc reKd in Chaucer : '
At this day they are called Churchwardens ; all those
naines bving eipressiTe of the nature of the office,
rerenues, buildings, and furniture of the church. Iii
an old churchwarden's hook of accounts, belonging la
the parish of Farringdon, in the county of Berk!, and
bearing date k.p. 1518. there is the form of admitting
churchwardens into their office at that period, in the
iWlowing words : ' OierchyB Wardenjs, thvs shall be
TOUr charge : to be true to God and to the clierche : fu>
love nor for fiivor off no man wythin thys patrlche to
withold any ry^ht to the cherche ; but to resseve the
detlys to hyt belongythe, or else to go to the de«ell.' '
Tour readers will observe that tbe last is a very
summary kind of sentence. Any farther inform-
ation relating to the institution of churchwardens •
will be esteemed by J. B. Wditsohnb.
Epigram. — In an old book 1 found this epigram,
publiBhed in 1660, more suitable perhaps for your
columns during tbe excitement of the Papal aggres-
sion than now ;
the Commemoration in 1849; it created agreit
sensation at the time, from iti clever allusion Is
the political changes on tbe other Bide of IIh
channel, and, I think, deserves to be rescaed fnn
oblirioD by a place in the columns of " N. tt Q.;*
" Citizen Aeademiciani,
■' The cry of Heform has been too long unheard.
Our infatuated rulers refused to listen to it. The
term of their tyranny is at length aocompliahed. Thi
Vice- Chancellor baa fled on horseback. The Frocton
have resigned their usurped authority. Tbe Scunb
have fraternised with the friends of liberty. Tbe
University is no more. A Republican Lyceum will
henceforth diffuse tight and civilisation. The hebdo-
madal board is abolished. The Legislative Powen
will be entrusted to a General Convention of the wbote
Lyceum. A Provisional Government has been esta-
blished. The undersigned citizens have nobly derated
themselves to the task of administration.
(Signed) " Citizen Cloitoh (Pntida
o/tAe
Bosaou ( Optrattvt).
John Conihotok.
Wttiamsos."
Tour academical readers will appreciate the
signatures. Tbwam.
Professor MacgilUvray. — The mention by W.
(Vol. viii., p. 467.) of thia lamented naturalist's
pofltbumous work, descriptive of tbe Ifaturat Bit-
lory of Balmoral, and of its intended publication
by Prince Albert, induces me to hope that yon
will give insertion to the following extract from
Professor Macgiilivray's History of Ike MoOusana
AnimuU of Aberdeenshire, p:., as ahowing the
character of the man, and the apirit in which he
prosecuted his reaearches.
n inveitigation
bo have not Ji-
1 object. The
nnol be at all apprei
rough the world hath
" Hate and debate Rome
Yet Roma, amor is. ifbackward read ;
Then is it strange, Rome hate should foster ? no,
For out of backward love, all bate dolh grow." '
„ , AuQnia.
Kdmburgh.
Oxford Commemoration Sguii, 1849. — The
followingjeu d-esprit was circulated in Oxford at
■B ^' 'P",. "■* '"»"»""'"' of Churchwardens consult
Burn-. £„fe,i„^„, t„„ (^ churchwardens; and
the works noticed in " N. & Q.," Vol. vii., p. 359.]
ocky coasts and sandy beeches of thr. , .^j,
nd bills of the interior, the pasture*, rnosay banks,
hJckets, woods, rocks, ruins, walls, ditches, pooli,
anals, rills, and rivers, were all to be aniduously
sarched. No collections of molluscs made in the
islriet were known to me, nor do any of our libraries
in the wotlis necessary to be consulted, although
that of King's College supplies some of great *ali
In a situation so remote from the great centres of civi-
lisation, the solution of doubts is oflen difficult of at-
tainment, and there is altrays a risk of deNiibing as
new what may already have been entered into the
loni catalogue of known objects. But the pleasure of
joQtinually adding tonne's knowledge, the sympalhy
3f friends, the invigorating influence of the many
famblings required, the delight of aiding others in the
lame pursuits, and many other circumstancea, amply
larry one through greater difficallies (bar
luffice t<
;hDse alluded lo, even alMnild tbe itewa of flw ig-
^ Dec. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
685
9
W^ norantly-wise, or the frowns of the pompously- grave,
■f' be directed toward the unconscious wight, who, im-
^ ; mersed in mud, gropes with the keenness of a money-
it gatherer, for the to them insignificant objects, which
^ have exercised the wisdom and the providence of the
/ glorious Creator.*'— -Preface, p. 10.
J. Macbat.
r Manifesto of the Emperor Nicholas, — Some of
r tlie newspapers, having stated that the concluding
liatin words in this manifesto — *'Domine in te
speravi, ne confundar in eternum" — are from the
Psalms, I beg to say that these words are not
taken from the Scriptures of either Testament,
nor from the Apocrypha ; but constitute the last
verse of the " Te Deum," commencing, " We
acknowledge thee to be the Lord," and ending,
•* O Lord, m thee have I trusted, let me never be
confounded." It is usual to sing "Te Deum"
after victories, but Nicholas begins his song before
he achieves one : taking the last yerse first,
T. J. BUCKTOIC.
Lichfield.
^utxiti*
-WILLIAM COOKWORTHT, THE INVENTOB OF BRITISH '
POBCELAIN.
In endeavouring to revive the neglected me-
mory of this good and great man, I have care-
fully looked over the chief periodicals of his day
(1730 to 1780) with very little success; perhaps
Decause those I have at command, the OentlemarCs
Magazine^ Universal Magazine, and Universal
Museum, were not those selected for his corre-
spondence.
If any of your readers can refer me to any
papers or essays of his, or any details of the in-
ternal management of his China works, or of his
public or private life, it will be doing me a great
favour.
What I have hitherto collected are chiefly frag-
mentary accounts of his life and character ; general
notices of his discovery of the China clay and
stone, of the progress of his manufactory, and of
his treatment of British cobalt ores ; details of his
experiments on the distillation of sea-water for
use on ship-board; a treatise in detail on the
divining rod ; and several of his private letters,
chiefly religious.
Most of these I have thrown out in print, under
the title of Relics of William Cookworthy, ^c,
which I am desirous of making much more com-
plete. J. Fbideatjx.
CATHOLIC FLOBAL DIBECTOBIES, ETC.
More than a year ago (Vol. vi., p. 503.) I made
a Query respecting Catholic Floral Directories,
and two worKs in particular which were largely
quoted in Mr. Oakley's Catholic Florist, Lend.
1851 ; and I again alluded to them in Vol. vii.,
p. 402., but have not got any reply. The two
works referred to, viz. the Anthohgia Borealis et
Australis, and the Florilegium Sanctorum Aspira*
tionum, are not to be heard of anvwhere (so far as
I can see) save in Mr. Oakley s book. During
the last year I have ransacked all the bibliogra-
phical authorities I could lay hold of, and made
every inquiry after these mysterious volumes, but
all in vain.
The orthography and style of the passages cited
are of a motley kind, and most of them read like
modern compositions, though here and there we
have a quaint simile and a piece of antique spel-
ling. In fact they seem more like imitations than
anything else ; and I cannot resist the temptation
of placing them on the same shelf with M^Fherson's
Ossian and the poems of Kowley. In some places
a French version of the Florilegium is quoted :
even if that escaped one*s researches, is it likely
that two old English books (which these purport
to be), of such a remarkable kind, should be un-
known to all our bibliographers, and to the readers
of " N. & Q.," among whom may be found the
chief librarians and bibliographers in the three
kingdoms. Is it not strange also that Mr. Oakley
and his "compiler" decline giving any inform-
ation respecting these books ?
I shall feel extremely obliged to any correspon-
dent who will clear up this matter, and who will
furnish me with a list of Catholic Floral Direc-
tories. ElBIONNACH.
GEOBGE ALSOF.
George Alsop was ordained deacon 1666-67,
priest 1669, by Henry King, Bishop of Chichester.
He printed in 1669 —
"An Orthodox Plea for the Sanctuary of God,
Common Service, and White Robe of the House.
Printed for the Author, and sold by R. Reynolds, at
the Sun and Bible in the Postern."
It is a small 8vo. of eighty-six pages, exclusive of
the dedication to the Bishop of Chichester, and an
Epistle to the Reader, and has a portrait of the
author by W. Sherwin.
Can any of your readers give me any account
of this George Alsop, his preferment, if any, and
the time of his death ?
He is, I feel persuaded, a different person from
the author of A Clwracter of Maryland, 12mo.,
1666. ^- B.
B, L, M, — What is the meaning of the abbre-
viation B. L. M. in Italian epistolary correspond-
ence? I have reason to believe that it is used
S86
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 2ia
where flome degree of acquuntance exists, but not
in addressing an entire stranger. In a correspond-
ence now before me, one of the writers, an Italian
gentleman, uses it in the subscription to every one
of his letters, except the first, thus :
" Ho Thonore d* essere col piu profondo rispetto B.L.M.
li di Lei Umillss. Dev. Servo.**
** Frattanto la prego di yolermi credere nella piu ampla
estentione del termine B. L. M.
II di Lei Ubbo. ed Obligato Servitore.**
I need not add more examples. There is'no-
thing in Graglia*s Collection of Italian Letters that
explains it. J. W. T.
Dewsbary.
Member of Parliament electing himself, — In the
biographical notices of the author of an Inquiry
into the Rise and Orowlh of the Royal Prerogative
in England^ 1849, I find the following curious
circumstances :
" The writ for election (of a member for the county
of Bute) was transmitted to the sheriff, Mr. M*Leod
Bannatine, afterwards Lord Bannatine. He named
the day, and issued his precept for the election. When
the day of election arrived, Mr. Bannatine was the only
fireeholder present. As freeholder he voted himself
chairman of the meeting ; as sheriff he produced the
writ and receipt for election, read the writ and the
-oaths against bribery at elections ; as sheriff he ad-
ministered the oaths of supremacy, &c., to himself as
chairman ; he signed the oaths as chairman and as
sheriff; as chairman he named the clerk to the meeting,
and called over the roll of freeholders ; he proposed
the candidate and declared him elected ; he dictated
and signed the minutes of election ; as sheriff he made
an indenture of election between himself as sheriff and
liimself as chairman, and transmitted it to the crown
office.**
Can any of your correspondents furnish me
with a similar case ? H. M.
Peckham.
" Suaviter in modo^ fortiter in re." — This rule
is strongly recommended by Lord Chesterfield in
one of his letters, as " unexceptionably useful and
necessary in every part of life." Whence is it
taken, and who is its author ? J. W. T.
Dewsbury.
Jacobite Garters, — Can any of your readers in-
form me of the origin of the " rebel garters," a
pair of which I possess, and which have been
carefully handed down with other Stuart relics by
my Jacobin fathers ?
They are about 4 feet long, and IJ inch deep,
of silk woven in the loom ; the pattern consists of
a stripe of red, yellow, and blue, once repeated, and
arranged so that the two blue lines meet in the
centre. At each end, for about six or seven
inches, and at spaces set at regular intervals.
these lines of colour are crossed, so as to form a
check or tartan ; the spaces corresponding witk
the words in the following inscription, and one
word being allotted to each space :
<* Come lett ua with on« heart agree "
and it is continued on the other :
** To pray that God may blees P. C**
The tartan, however, does not appear to be the
" Royal Stuart."
Probably they were distributed to the friends
and adherents of poor Prince Charles Edward, to
commemorate some special event in his ill-fated
career. But it would be interesting to know if
many of them remain, and, if possible, their correct
history. E. Ln L
Daughters taking their Mothers^ Names, — Can
any of your readers favour me with any instances^
about the time of the first, second, and third Ed*
wards, of a daughter adding to her own name that
of the mother, as Alicia, daughter of Ada, &c
BUBDBNSXS.
General Fraser, — Have there been any Life
or Memoirs ever published of General Fraser, who
fell in Burgoyne*s most disastrous campaign ? If
any such exist I should be glad to know of them.
W. FSASBB.
Tor-Mohun.
A Punning Divine, — Wanted the whereabouts
of the following sentence, which is said to be
taken from a volume of sermons published during
the reign of James I. :
" This dial shows that we must die aQ ; yet notwith-
standing, all houses are turned into ak houses; our
cares into cates ; our paradise into a jmmV o* dice ; ma*
trimony into a matter of money, and marriage into a
merry age; our divines have become dry vines i it was
not so in the days of Noah, — O no ! **
w.w.
MalU.
Contango. — A technical term in use among the
sharebrokers of Liverpool, and I presume else-
where, signif)ring a sum of money paid ibr aocom*
modating either a buyer or seller by carrying the
engagement to pay money or deliver shares oyer
to the next account-day. Can your correspondents
say from whence derived ? Aomoiid.
Pedigree to the Time of ^{^"rerf. — Wapshott,
a blacksmith in Chertsey, holds lands held by his
ancestors temp. Alfred (M*Culloch*s Highlands^
vol. iv. p. 410.). Can this statement be confirmed
in 1853 ? A. C,
" Service is no inheritance,^ — Will you or any
of your readers have the goodness to inform me
588
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
[No. 216.
Col. Edw. Coke, and Mr. Hen. Firebrace. With the
Character of that Blessed Martyr, by the Reverend
Mr. John Diodati, Mr. Alexander Henderson, and the
Author of the Princely Pelican, To which is added,
the Death- Bed Repentance of Mr. Lenthal, Speaker
of the Long Parliament ; extracted out of a Letter
written from Oxford, Sept. 1662. London : printed
for Robert Clavell, at the Peacock, at the West-end of
St. Paul's, 1702."
The " Advertisement to the Reader " states that,
** there having been of late years several Memoirs
printed and published relating to the life and actions
of the Royal Martyr, King Charles I., of ever-blessed
memory, it was judged a proper and seasonable time
to publish Sir Thomas Herbert's Carolina TTirenodia,
under the title of his Memoirs, there being contained in
this book the most material passages of the two last
years of the life of that excellent and unparallei*d prince,
which were carefully observed and related by the author
in a large answer of a letter wrote to him by Sir Wil-
liam Dugdale. In the same book is printed Major
Huntington's relation made to Sir William of sundry
particulars relating to the King ; as also Colonel Edw.
Coke's and Mr. Henry Firebrace's narratives of seve-
ral memorable passages observed by them during their
attendance on him at Newport, in the Isle of Wight,
anno '48. All these were copied from a MS. of the
Right Reverend the Bishop of Ely, lately deceased ;
and, as I am credibly informed, a copy of the several
originals is now to be seen amongst the Dugdale MSS.
in Oxford library. To these Memoirs are added two
or three small tracts, which give some account of the
affairs of those times, of the character of K. Charles I.,
and of 'his just claim and title to his Divine Meditations,
These having been printed anno 1646, 48, 49, and very
scarce and difficult to procure, were thought fit to be
reprinted for publick service. As to the letter which
gives an account of Mr. Lenthal's carriage and be-
haviour on his death-bed, it was printed anno 1662,
and the truth of it attested by the learned Dr. Dicken-
son, now living in St. Martin's Lane This I
thought fit to advertise the reader of, by way of intro-
duction, that he might be satisfied of the genuineness
of the respective pieces, and thereby be encouraged to
peruse them with confidence and assurance."]
" Liturgy of the Ancients,*' — "Who was the
author of a thin 4to. book entitled The Liturgy
of the Ancients represented, as near as may fte,
in JEnglish Forms^ ^c, " London, printed for the
Authour, 1696." He added to it "A Proposal of
a compleat work of Charity." T. G. Lomax.
Lichfield.
[Edward Stephens is the author of this Liturgy, who
describes himself as ** late of Cherington, co. Glouces-
ter, sometime barrister-at-law of the Hon. Society of
the Middle Temple, and since engaged, by a very
special Divine Providence, in the most sacred employ-
ment." He farther informs us, that ** when it pleased
God to discharge him from the civil service, his first
business in public was a gentle and tacit admonition of
the neglect of the most solemn and peculiar Christian
worship of God in this nation ; accompanied by such
public acts in the very heart of the chief city, as made
it a most remarkable witness and testimony against
them who would not receive it, but rejected the counsel
and favour of God towards them." Stephens's Liturgy
has been republished by the Rev. Peter Hall, in his
Fragmenta Liturgica, vol. ii., who thus notices the
author : — " Stephens was the leader of a class by no
means contemptible, though himself as odd a mixture
of gravity and scurrility, learning and trifling, pietism
that could stoop to anything, and liberalism that stuck
at nothing, as English theology aiTords." Some ac-
count of Edward Stephens will be found in Leslie's
Letter concerning the New Separation, 1719 ; and in An
Answer to a Letter from the Rev, C. Leslie, concerning what
he calls the New Separation, 1719. Stephens advocated
the practice of daily communion.]
^^ Ancient hallowed Dee^ — What is the his-
torical, traditional, or legendary allusion in this
epithet, bestowed by Milton on the river Dee P
J. W. T.
Dewsbury.
[Dee's divinity was Druidlcal. From the same
superstition, some rivers in Wales are still held to
have the gifl or virtue of prophecy. Giraldus Cam*
brensis, who wrote in 1188, is the first who men-
tions Dee's sanctity from the popular traditions. In
Spenser, this river is the haunt of magicians :
" Dee, which Britons long ygone
Did call DIVINE."
And Browne, in his Britannia's Pastorals, book ii. § 5,,
says,
" Never more let holy Dee,
Ore other rivers brave," &c.
Much superstition was founded on the circumstance of
its being the ancient boundary between England and
Wales; and Drayton, in his tenth Song, having re*
cited this part of its history, adds, that by changing its.
fords it foretold good or evil, war or peace, dearth or
plenty, to either country. He then introduces the
Dee, over which King Edgar had been rowed by eight
kings, relating to the story of Brutus. See more on
this subject in Warton's note to line 55* in Milton's
Lycidas :
" Now yet where Deva spreads her wizard stream.*']
Who was True Blue f — In the churchyard of
Little Brickhill, Bucks, is a table monument bear-
ing the following inscriptions :
"Here lieth y« body of True Blue, who departed
this life January y* 17th, 1724-5, aged 57. Also y«
body of Eleanor, y*' wife of True Blue, who departed
this life January 21st, 1722-3, ageed (sic) 59."
Who was "True Blue?** If it were not for
his wife Eleanor, one would take him to be some
kin to "Eclipse** or "Highflyer." Lysons makes
no mention of such a person ; nor, I am assured
by a friend who has made the search for me, does
Lipscomb; although another friend referred me
there under the conviction that he was not only
named, but that his history was given. The kind
Dec. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
589
ei tombstone is sufficient to show that he was a
person of some property, and yet he has not only
^ no ^ BsQ*** affixed to his name, but it is without
;i the prenx "Mr/* One can scarcely doubt that
!^ the name is not a real one. Browns, Blacks,
if' Whites, and Greens there are in abundance, but
i nobody ever heard of a " Blue ;" nor, so far as I
f know, did anybody ever christen his child " True."
( Yet what could have been the incidents of a life
r that required the fiction to be carried even to the
grare ? G. J. De Wilde.
[The foregoing monumental inscription is given in
I«ip8comb*s Bucks, vol. iv. p. 76., to which is subjoined
the following note:— *' The singularity of this name
has occasioned much curiosity; but no information
can be obtained besides that of Trtu Blue having been
a stranger, who settled here, and acquired some pro-
perty, which after his decease was disposed of. It has
been conjectured that he lived here under a feigned
name. One Hercules True, about 1645, kept a house
at Windsor, to which deer-stealers were accustomed to
resort ; and he uttered violent threats against a person,
'whose son, having been killed in attempting to resist
the deer-stealers in the Great Park, Thomas Shemonds
prosecuted the murderers, and True declared he would
knock his brains out, and is believed to have afterwards
absconded."]
Charge of Plagiarism against Paley, — Has
any reply been made to the accusation against
Paley, brought forward some years ago in
ThelAthenceum ? It was stated (and apparently
proved) that his Natural Theology was merely a
translation of a Dutch work, the name of whose
author has escaped my recollection. I suppose
the archdeacon would have defended this shame-
ful plagiarism on his favourite principle of expe-
diency. It seems to me, however, that it is high
time that either the accusation be refuted, or the
culprit consigned to that contempt as a man which
he deserved as a moralist. Fiat Justitia.
[We have frequently had to complain of the loose
manner in which Queries are sometimes submitted to
our readers for solution. Here is a specimen. The
communication above involves two other Queries,
which should have been settled before it bad been
forwarded to us, namely, 1. In what volume of the
Athen<Bum is the accusation against Paley made ? and,
2. What is the title of the Dutch work supposed to be
pirated ? After pulling down six volumes of the Athe'
ncBum, we discovered that the charge against Paley ap-
peared at p. 803. of the one for the year 1848, and
that the work said to be pirated was written by Dr.
Bernard Nieuwentyt of Holland, and published at
Amsterdam about the year 1700. It was translated
into English, under the title of The Religious Philo'
sopher, 3 vols. 8vo., 1718-19. The charge against
Paley has been ably and satisfactorily discussed in the
same volume of the Athen(Bum (see pp. 907. 933.), and
at the present time we have neither <* ample room nor
verge enough " to re-open the discussion in our pages.]
Weber's " Cecilia^ — Can you inform me
whether a work by Grottfried Weber, entitled
,Cecilia, is to be had in English or in French ? I
find it constantly referred to in the said Weber's
work on the Theory of Musical Composition, and
in MUller's Physioh^,
For any information you can give me on the
subject I shall feel much indebted.
Phllhabmonicus .
Dublin.
[CdSctVta is a musical art journal published in Ger-
many, and is thus noticed at page 12. of Warner*s
edition of Godfrey Weber's Theory of Musical Compo^
sition: — "Since 1824 we have been laid under great
obligations to our distinguished mathematician and
writer on acoustics. Professor W, Weber, for most in-
teresting developments on all these points, which he has
arranged into an article in the journal C<Bcilxa, vol. xii.,
expressly for musicians and musical instrument manu-
facturers."]
Andrew Johnson, — In the character of Samuel
Johnson, as drawn by Murphy, there . is the re-
mark, "Like his uncle Andrew in the ring at
Smithfield, Johnson, in a circle of disputants, was
determined neither to be thrown or conquered."
Other allusions are made, in BoswelFs JLife, to
this uncle having " kept the ring," but I cannot
find out who he could have been. There was a
noted bruiser, Tom Johnson ; but certainly he was
not the person in question. I shall be glad if any
of your readers can inform me who this ** Uncle
Andrew" was, and what authority there is for
believing that he was a pugilistic champion of
note. PuGiLLus.
[In the Variorum Boswell, i. e. Croker*s ed., 1847,
p. 198., PuGiLLUS will find a note by the editor, stating
that Dr. Johnson told Mrs. Piozzi that his uncle An-
drew ** for a whole year kept the ring at Smithfield,
where they wrestled and boxed, and never was thrown
or conquered.'*]
MS, by Olover, — Can Me. Bolton Cornet,
or Mb. R. Sims, inform me whether the Lans-
downe MS. 205. is in Glover's handwriting ?
H. M.
[This volume (Lansdowne, 205. ) contains twenty-six
articles in difierent hands. Art. S. contains pedigrees
by Glover in his own hand. See MS. Harl. 807., and
an autograph letter in MS. Cot., Titus B. vii. fol. 14.]
Gumey'^s Short-hand, — Can any of your cor-
respondents inform me if there have been any
alterations in this system of short-hand since 1802 ?
Also, if it be now much used ?
Wm. O'Sdluvak.
Ballymenagh.
[This well-known system of short-hand is certainly
still in use, — in fact, is that employed at the present
time by the Gurneys, who are the appointed short-
hand writers to the Houses of Lords and Commons.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 216,
Spuriotu Don Quixote. — What En^tish anc
French rereioDS are there of the apunous con-
tinuation of Don Quixole by Avellaneda ?
V. T. STBRNBBRa
[A notice of the English translations Is given ir
Lowndes's Bib. Man., lol. i. p. 374.. an. Cervsntea
Consult also Ebert's BibL Did., val. i. p. 299., far tht
French translations.]
rRDi[nf(cu.Tioi( or hkbbbw hamu i
(Vol. Tiii, p. 469.)
Your correspondent does not, of oonrae, inauin
wliRt ia the proper Hebrew pronunciation oi the
■ereral UUtrt, but rather what ii the accented
syllable in each word. To pronounce in a mannei
nearly approachinj; to the Hebrew might make
the congregation stare, but would appear rery
pedantic to a learned ear. The aafest mode is tc
examine the Greek of the Septuaglnt, not of the
if ew Testament (if the reader does not under-
stand Hebrew), and obserre the place of the acute
accent. On that place, if it be on the penultimate
or sntepennltimate, the accent ahould be laid in
English. But if the accent be on the last lyllable,
though it is strictly right to place it there also in
EnElish, it ia not worth while to do so, for fear of
maciug hearers talk about a strange sound, in-
stead of attending to the service. It will be safer
to accent the penultimate in dissyllables, and the
antepenultimatQ in trisyllables, which in the Greek
are acutitones ; in fact, to pronounce, aa all cler'
pymen used to pronounce, until a pedantic and
Ignorant practice arose of lengthening, or rather
■ceenting, every syllable in the penultimate, which
had or was supposed to have a long quantity in
Greek. Hence the comparatively new habit of
pronouncing SaSmie, ZaSovf^r, atienxBari, AnXEiyuf,
with a strong accent on the penultjma; whereas
the old-fashioned way of accenting the antepenuU
tima makes no one stare, and is a much nearer
i^proach to the true pronunciation. There is a
curious inconsistency in the common way of read-
ing, in English, iatiaptm and Kaiaapua. Samarta
b decidedly a Greek word ; but yet, in this word,
it is usual to accent the an tepen ultima. CesaxSa
is decidedly a Latin word Grsclaed, and yet it Is
usual to read this with an accent on the ante-
penultlma. I never observed any of those who
read Sab4otb, Zabiilon, and sabachth^ni, read
either Samaria or Cesiirea. The Greek accents
on Hebrew words always accord, as Hebraists
know, with the tonic accent in tiiat language.
EC. H.
the following representation of their pronunclatira
In the originals is offered. The vowels are to be
read as in Italian, the M as in English, and the
hh as ch in German :
Hebrew. Sabaoth^M-co'titA.
Hebrew. [The]Moriah=[Atun-]«d'-ri-ydA.
Syriac. Aceldama=Ur-i&-(jf-mi.
Syro>Chaldee. Eli Eli lamma sabachtbani^
e-fi Si tam-ma »S-iahh-tS-ui, as in Matthew ; or
e-l4-ki, as in Mark.
Chaldee. Abednego = (!-ti&Isf-^o.
The coBxmHonal pronunciation given by WaUcev
is perhaps best adapted to English eara, whieb
would be quite repulsed by an attempt to restore
the ancient pronunciation of such familiar words,
for instance, as Jacob, Isaac, Job, and Jeremiah.
T. J. BucxioK.
Lichfield.
UlttD HAUrAX AI
(Vol.viii^ pp.429, 643.)
One has some doubt, in reading PsorESSOK Db
Moroah's article on the abovB snbject, what in-
ference is to be drawn from it. If it is to prove
a private marriage between Halifax and Mrs.
Barton, on the strength of the date on the watch
at the Boyal Society oeing falsified, it is a failure.
I have examined that watch since Pbofbbsor Dx
MoKOAN published his Note, and can testify most
decidedly that, if anything, the inscription is older
than the case, nor is there a vestige of anything
like unfair alteration ; and any one accustomed to
engraving would arrive at the same conclusion.
The outside case ia beautifully chased in Louis
Quatoree style : but the inner case, on which ^e
inscription is graven, has no need of such elaborate
work, nor is such work ever introduced on the
inside of watches ; they are invariably smooth.
And all that is noticeable in the present instance
is, that the writing has lost the sharpness of the
graver bj use, or returning it into its casej or
more proDably the case has not been used at all,
being cumbersome and set aside as a curious work
of art, which indeed it is.
The date on the watch Is 1708, and FBorssaoK
Ds MoBOAN states that Mrs. Barton was married
in 1718 ; the watch therefore denies this ; but
when she married Conduit ought, if possible, to
be found out by register, which might prove the
watch date untrue ; but the watch declares she
was Mrs. Conduit in 1706. She was then of course
twenty-eight years of age: thus «q come to a
Pjbc. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
591
plainer conclusion that when she lived with
£[alifax, or whatever other arrangement they
made, a position which is said to have occurred
between 1700 and the time of Halifax's death
in 1715, she was really Mrs. Conduit, and not
Catherine Barton. And thus we are brought
to think that if there is any private marriage in
the case, it is between the lady and Mr. Conduit ;
at all events she went back to her husband, if the
watch is true.
As to an apology for Newton, I look upon it
in a very different light : first, I should say he had
no clear right to interfere in the matter, as the
lady was married ; and supposing he had, he could
Iiave done no more than expostulate. He lived
in a world of his own studies, and did not choose
to be interrupted by quarrels and scandals. And
it is certainly a proper addition to say, that the
public morals of that age are not to be judged by
the present standard. All these account very
well for Newton's silence on the subject ; but to
settle the matter, some search might be made in
the registers of the parishes where they resided, in
order that the subject may be fullyexplained.
Wbm) Tatlob.
INSCRIPTIONS IN BOOKS.
(Vol. viii. pp. 64. 153. 472.)
In the famous Rouen Missal, called St. Guthlac's
book, is the following inscription in the handwrit-
ing of Kobert, Bishop of London, and afterwards
Archbishop of Canterbury, who was formerly head
of the monastery of Jumieges, to which the book
belonged, and where, in 1053, he died :
** Quem si quis vi vel dolo seu quoquo modo isti
loco subtraxerit, animae suae propter quod fecerit dc-
trimentum patiatur, atque de libro viTentium deleatur,
et cum justis non scribatur.**
John Grollier had on all his books inscribed :
" Portio mea, domine, sit in terra viventiuni ; **
and underneath :
** lo. GroUierii et Amicorum."
Henry de Kantzan wrote a decree for his
library, of which here is the fulminatory clause :
*' Libros partem ne aliquam abstulerit,
Extraxerit, clepserit, rapserit,
Concerpserit, corruperit,
Dolo malo,
Illico maledictus,
Perpetuo execrabilis.
Semper detestabilis,
Esto, maneto."
See Dibdin's bibliographical works. J. S.
Norwich.
The two following are copied from the originals
written in the fly-leaf of Brathwayte*8 Panedone^
or Health from Helicon, pub. 1621, in my poMes*
lion :
1.
" Whose book I am if you would know,
In letters two I will you show :
The first is J, tlie most of might,
The next is M, in all men*s sight ;
Join these two letters discreetly.
And you will know my name thereby.
Jas. Moeret,*
2.
** Philip Morrey is my name.
And with my pen I write the same ;
Tho* had such pen been somewhat better,
I could have mended every letter."
Cbstbiehsis;,
On the fly-leaf of Theaphila, or Lovers Sacrifice,
a divine poem by E. B., Esq., London, 1652, 1 find
the following rare morsel :
^ Mr. James Tinker,
Rector of St. Andrews, Droitwich.
'< Father Tinker, when you are dead.
Great parts a long wir you are fled*
O that they wor conferred on mee.
Which would ad unto God*s glory."
The subject of the above laudation flourished in-
the early part of the last century.
In a Geneva Bible, date 1596 :
** Thomas Hand : his booke :
God glue him grace theare on to looke :
And If my pen it had bin better,
I would haue mend it euery letter.
1693."
R. C. Wabdi,
Kidderminster.
German Book Inscription. — You have not ycti
I think, had a German book-inscription : allow me
to send you the following out of an old Faust^
bought last year at Antwerp :
** Dieses Buch ist mir lieb,
Wer es stielt ist ein Dieb;
Mag er heissen Herr oder Knecht,
Hangen ist sein verdientes Recht."
Underneath is the usual picture of the gallow04
tree and its fruit. Iseldunenkes*
PBAYING TO THE WEST.
(Vol. viii., p. 343. &c.)
The setting sun and the darkness of evening ha9
been immemorially connected with death, just as
the rising orb and the light of morning with life.
In Sophocles (jCEdiptis Bex, 179.), Pluto is called
tffTTtpos ecSs ; and the ** Oxford translation'* has the
following note on the line :
'* In Lysia*s Oration against Andocides is this pas-
sage : To expiate this pollution (the mutilation of the
592
NOTES AND QUERIEa
[Na 216.
Herm»), the priestesses and priests turning towards the
tetting sun, the dwelling of the infemcd gods, devoted
irith curses the sacrilegious wretch, and shook their
purple robes, in the manner prescribed by that ]a\r,
which has been transmitted from the earliest times.** —
Mitfordy History of Greece, ch. zxii.
Liddell and Scott consider "Zp^Bos (the nether
gloom) to be derived from ipi<i><a^ to cover ; akin
to ipffUfSs^ and probably also to Hebrew erev or
ereby our e»e-nin^ ; and mention as analogous the
Egyptian Amenti, Hades, from ement, the west.
(Wilkinson's EgypiiaTiSy ii. 2. 74.)
Turning to the East on solemn occasions is a
practice more frequently mentioned. There is an
interesting note on the subject in the Translation
Above quoted, at CEdipus Col., 477.,
" XoAs x^^^^o^ (rrdyra vphs vpcorriv ?«,"
und doubtless much more may be found in the
commentators. The custom, as is well known,
found its way into the Christian Church.
■ " The primitive Christians used to assemble on the
steps of the basilica of St. Peter, to see the first rays of
the rising sun, and kneel, curvatis cervicibus in honorem
splendid! orbis. (S. Leo. Serm. VII, De NativS) The
practice was prohibited, as savouring of, or leading to,
Gentilism. (Bernino, i. 45.)" — Southey's Common-
Place Book, ii. 44.
** The rule of Orientation, though prescribed in the
Apostolic Constitutions, never obtained in Italy, where
the churches are turned indiscriminately towards every
quarter of the heaven.** — Quarterly Review, vol. Ixxv.
p. 382.
In the Reformed Church in England the custom
is recognised, as far as the position of the material
church goes. (See rubric at the beginning of the
Communion Service.) "The priest shall stand
at the north side of the table ;" but turning east-
ward at the Creeds has no sanction that I know
of, but usage. (Compare Wheatly On the Com"
man Prayer, ch. ii. § 3., ch. iii. § 8. ; and Williams,
The Cathedral (" Stanzas on the Cloisters "),
xxiv. — xxviii.)
The rationale of a western paradise is given in
the following extract, with which I will conclude :
" Wlien the stream of mankind was flowing towards
the West, it is no wonder that the weak reflux of posi-
tive information from that quarter should exhibit only
the impulses of hope and superstition. Greece was
nearly on the western verge of the world, as it was
known to Homer ; and it was natural for him to give
wing to his imagination as he turned towards the dim
prospects beyond All early writers in Greece
believed in the existence of certain regions situated in
the West beyond the bounds of their actual know-
ledge, and, as it appears, of too fugitive a nature ever
to be fixed within the circle of authentic geography.
Homer describes at the extremity of the ocean the
Elysian plain, * where, under a serene sky, the fa-
vourites of Jove, exempt from the common lot of
mortals, enjoy eternal felicity.** Hesiod, in like mao*
near, sets the Happy Isles, the abode of departed
heroes, beyond the deep ocean. The Hesperia of the
Greeks continually fled before them as their know-
ledge advanced, and they saw the terrestrial paradise
still disappearing in the West." — Cooley*s History of
Maritime Discov., vol. i. p. 25., quoted in Anthon*s
H'irace,
A. A.D.
"gbeen byes.*
(Vol. viii., p. 407.)
In the edition of Longfellow's Poetical TfbrJb
published by Routledge, 1853, the note quoted by
Mr. Temple ends thus :
** Dante speaks of Beatrice*s eyes as emerald* (^Pur-
gatorio, xxxi. 116.). Lami says, in his Annotazioni,
* Erano i suoi occhi d* un turchino verdiccio, simile a
quel del mare.* '*
More in favour of " green eyes*' is to be found
in one of GiflTord's notes on his translation of the
thirteenth satire of Juvenal. The words in the
original are :
" Casrula quis stupuit German! lumina,**
Juv. Sat. xni. 164.
And Gifford's note is as follows :
" Ver. 223. .. . and eyes of sapphire hlue9'] The
people of the south seem to have regarded, as a pheno-
menon, those blue eyes, which with us are so commoni
and, indeed, so characteristick of beauty, as to form an
indispensable requisite of every Daphne of Grub Street.
Tacitus, however, from whom Juvenal perhaps bor-
rowed the expression, adds an epithet to cmdean, which
makes the common interpretation doubtful. « The
Germans,* he says (De Mor. Ger, 4.), *have truces et
ccerulei oculi, fierce, lively blue eyes.' With us, this
colour is always indicative of a soft, voluptuous lan-
guor. What, then, if we have hitherto mistaken the
sense, and, instead of blue, should have said sea-green ?
This is not an uncommon colour, especially in the
north. I have seen many Norwegian seamen with
eyes of this hue, which were invariably quick, keen,
and glancing.
" Shakspeare, whom nothing escaped, has put an
admirable description of them into the mouth of J'uliet*8
nurse :
< O he*s a lovely man ! An eagle, madam.
Hath not so green, so quick, so fair an eye.
As Paris hath.*
** Steevens, who had some glimpse of the meaning of
this word, refers to an apposite passage in 2%e Two
Noble Kinsmen, It is in iSmilia*s address to Diana :
'• ' . . • Oh vouchsafe
With that thy rare green eye, which never yet
Beheld things maculate,* &c.
" It is, indeed, not a little singular, that this expres-
sion should have occasioned any difiiculty to his com-
mentators ; since it occurs in most of our old poets.
Bsa 17. 1S58.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
593
and Dnimmond of Hawthornden uses it perpetually.
One instance of it may be given :
* When Nature now had wonderfully wrought
All Auristella*s parts, except her eyes :
To make those twins, two lamps in beauty's skies.
The counsel of the starry synod sought.
Mars and Apollo first did her advise^
To wrap in colours black those comets bright,
That Love him so might soberly disguise,
And, unperceived, wound at every sight !
Chaste Phoebe spake for purest azure dyes ;
But Jove and Venus green about the light.
To frame, thought best, as bringing most delight.
That to pined hearts hope might for aye arise.
Nature, all said, a paradise of preen
Placed there, to make all love which have them seen.' "
Gifford's Translation of Juvenal and Persivs,
Srd edition, 1817.
Gifford's quotation from Romeo and Juliet
(errors excepted) is to be found in Act III. Sc. 5.
C. FOBBES.
Temple.
" Isabelle etait un peu plus ag6e que Ferdinand.
£lle etait petite, mais bien faite. Ses cheveux, au
rooins tres blonds, ses yeux verts et pleins de ft-Uy son
teint un peu olivatre, ne I'empechaient pas d'avoir un
visage imposant et ngreable. {lieoolutions d'Espagne,
tom. iv, liv. viii. ; Mariana, Hist, cT Espagne^ torn. ii.
liv. XXV. ; Ilist. de Ferdinand el d'Isabel/ey par M. 1' Abb6
Mignot, &c.)" — Florian, Gonzalve de Cordoue, Precis
Historique sur les Maures d'Espagne, quatrieme epoque,
note t.
E. J. M.
Hastings.
THE MTRTKB BEE.
(Vol. viii., pp. 173. 4/>0.)
Allow me to thank C. Brown for the reply he
has sent to my inquiries on this subject. I shall
certainly avail myself with pleasure of the permis-
sion he has given me to communicate with him by
letter ; but before doing so, T hope you will allow
me to address him this note through the medium
of your pages. The existence of the Myrtle Bee
as a distinct species has been denied by ornitholo-
gists, and as I think the question is more likely to
be set at rest by public than by private corre-
spondence, I trust C. Brown will not consider that
I am presuming too much on his kindness if I ask
him to send me farther information on the follow-
ing points ; What was the exact size of the bird
in question which he had in his hand ?. AVhat was
its size compared with the Golden-crested Wren?
"Was it generally known in the neighbourhood he
mentions, and by whom was it known ? By the
common people as well as others? From what
source did he originally obtain the appellation
" Myrtle Bee," as applied to this bird ? It has
Vol. viii. — No. 216.
been suggested to me that the bird seen by C.
Brown may have been the Dartford Warbler
{Sgloia provincialiSfGmeh), wings short, tail elon-
gated (this, if the Myrtle Bee is the Dartford
Warbler, would account for its " miniature phea-
sant-like appearance ") ; a bird which, as we are
informed in YarrelFs Hist, of British Birds, 1839,
vol. i. p. 311. et seq,, haunts and builds among the
furze on commons ; flies with short jerks ; is very
shy ; conceals itself on the least alarm ; and
creeps about from bush to bush. This description
would suit the Myrtle Bee. Not so the colour,
which is chiefly greyish-black and brown ; whereas
the bird seen by your correspondent was " dusky
light blue." Nor again does the description of
the Dartford Warbler, *' lighting for a moment on
the very point of the sprigs" of furze (vid. Yarrell
ut sup.), coincide with the account of the bird seen
by C. Brown, who " never saw one sitting or
light on a branch of the myrtle, but invariably
flying from the base of one plant to that of ano-
ther." In conclusion I would venture to ask
whether your correspondent's memory may not
have been treacherous resi)ecting the colour of a
bird which he has not seen for twenty-five years,
and whether he has ever seen the Dartford
Warbler on Chobham or the adjacent commons?
W. K. D. Salmon.
TIN.
(Vol. viii., pp. 290. 344.)
The first mention I remember of the place from
whence tin came, is in Herodotus (lib. iii. c. 115.).
He there says :
*• But concerning the extreme parts of Europe to-
wards the west, I am not able to speak certainly. For
I neither believe that a certain river is called Eridanus
by the barbarians, which flows into a northern sea, and
from which there is a report that the amber is wont to
come, nor have 1 known (any) islands, being Cassite-
rides (waa-trtrfpi'Sas iova-as)^ from which the tin is wont
to come to us. For, on the one band, the very name
Eridanus proves that it is Hellenic and not Barbaric,
but formed by some poet ; and on the other, I am not
able, though paying much attention to this matter, to
liear x>f any one that has been an eye-witness that a sea
exists upon that side of Europe. But doubtless both
the tin and the amber are wont to come from the ex-
treme part of Europe.'*
KcMrfffrepoy, according to Damm, is so called
because it is more ready to melt than other
metals, i. e. Kavairepos, from Ka/w, to burn ; this de-
rivation agrees with that given by Mr. Crosslet
of tin, " from the Celtic tin, to melt readily;" and
it receives some support from Hesiod (i). G. 861.),
where he speaks of the earth burning and melting
as tin or as iron, which is the hardest of metals.
But I own I doubt this derivation. First, be-<
594
NOTES AND QUERIES.
{No. 216.
cause it is quite clear to my mind that Herodotus
had no idea that it had a -Greek derivation. He
assigns the Greek origin of the word Eridanus as
a reason for disbelieving the statement as to it;
and had he known that Cassiteros had a like
oric^in, it cannot be doubted that he would have
assigned the «ame reason as to it likewise. In-
stead of which he resorts to tlie fact that he could
not obtain any authentic account of any sea on
that side of Europe, as a proof that the Cassi-
terides did not exist. In truth, his assertion as to
the Greek origin of the one, coupled with the
reason that is added, seems almost, if not quite,
equivalent to a denial that the other had a Greek
origin. Secondly, it is in the highest degree im-
probable that these islands should have received
their name from the Greeks, as it is contrary to
all experience that a country should be named by
persons ignorant of its existence. The names of
places are either given to them by those who dis-
cover them, or the names by which tl>ey are called
by their inhabitants are adopted by others.
At the time Caesar invaded this island, there
was a people whom he calls Cassi (^Ccbs. de B. G..,
lib. v. 21.), of whose prince Camden says, " from the
Cassii their prince, Cassivellaunus or Cassibelinus,
first took his name;" and he -adds that " it «eems
very probable that Cassivellaunus denotes as much
as the Prince of the Cassii." (damd. Brit, p. 278.,
edit. 1695.) According to which the word would
be compounded of Cassi and vellaitnus or belintis^
and this derivation is fortified by the word Cuno-
belinus, which plainly is formed in a similar
manner. Now there is a Celtic word, tir or ter
(from which terra is derived), and the AVelsh
word tir (which I have heard pronounced teer),
all denoting land. If then this word be. added to
Cassi, we have Cassiter, that is, the land of the
Cassii, Cassiland. And as we huve England, Scot-
land, and Ireland, possibly the ancient inhabitants
may have called their country Cassiter; and as
chalyhs, steel, was so called both by the Greeks
and Romans from the people that made it, so
might tin be from the country where it was found.
My derivation is conjectural, no doubt, and as
such I submit it wiCh great deference to the
candid consideration of your readers.
Isaiah, who lived b.c. 758, mentions tin in i. 25.
Ezekiel, who lived b.c. 598, mentions tin xxji.
18. 20. ; and xxvii. 12., speaking of Tyre, he says.:
" Tarshish was thy merehant by reason of the multi-
tude of all kinds of riches ; with silver, iron, <»«, and
lead, they traded in thy fairs."
This passage clearly shows that, at the time
spoken of by Ezekiel, the trade in tin was carried
on by the inhabitants of Tarshish, whether that
place designates Carthage, or Tartessus in Spain,
or not; and there can be little doubt that they
brought the tin from England ; and the addition
of ailver, iron, and 4ead, temds te strengthen this
opinion.
Herodotus recited his History at the Olympic
Games, b.c. 445 ; and probably the same people
traded in tin in his time as in the time of £zekiel.
The Hebrew word for -tin is derwed &om a
verb meaning "to separate," and seeoas to throw
no light-en the subject. -S. G. C.
MILTON S WIDOW.
(Vol. viii., pp. 452. 544. &c.^)
Your correspondents Mr. Marsh and Mr.
Hughes are entitled to an apology from me for
having so long delayed noticmg their comments
on my communication on the above .^subject in
Vol. viii , p. 134., which comments Tiave failed in
convincing me that 1 have fallen into the -error
tliey attribute to me, 'because it is manifest
Richard Minshull of Chester, son of Kichard of
Wistaston, the writer of the letter of May *J5rd,
1656, set forth in the Rev. Mr. Hunter's Milton
Pamphlet, pp. 37. and 38., could only -have been
fifteen years old when that letter was written, he
having, as Mr. Hughes states, been born in 1641,
so that he must have been only three years the
junior of his supposed niece, Mrs. Milton, then
Miss Minshull, born in 1638, according to Mr.
Marsh's account of her baptism ; and furthermore
be, Richard, the writer of the. said letter, must
be fairly presumed to have been married at the
date of such letter, which he thus commences:
" My love and best respects to you and my
daughter [meaning no doubt. his daughter-in-law],
tendered with trust of your health." Very un-
likely language for a parent to -address to his son,
a boy oi fifteen, on so important a subject as a
family pedigree. If this youthful Richard Min-
shull really was Mrs. Milton's uncle, his brother
Handle Minshull, her father, must have been very
many years older than him, whioh was not very
probable.
I notioed in a recent Number of your pages, with
great satisfaction, a eomnvunication fromCRANMER,
who has avowed himself to be your correspondent
Mr. Arthur Paget, for which, in common with
Mr. Hvohes and others, I feel very thankful to
him, notwithstanding it falls short of connecting
Mrs. Milton with Richard Minshull of Wistaston,
the Holme correspondent of 1656.
That historians have been much misled in as-
suming that Mrs. Milton <was a daught<er of Sir
Edward Minshull of Stoke, cannot, I think, be
questioned ; although it may be very fairly asked
whether there were not other respectable Minshull
families living in the neighbourhood of Wistaston,
of which Mrs. Milton might have been a member,
and yet allied to the Paget and Goldsmith families.
Garlighithb.
Dec. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
595
Mb. Hugbbs ia quite right, both in hia facts, «o
fkr as they go, and in Ibe inference he dratra from
them in con^rmation of the now veil ascertained
identity of Millon'g widow with the daughter of
Handle Mjnibull of Wistaston. Uia ol>servations
derive additional force from the fact, that two gene-
rations of Minsiiull of Wist as ton married ladies of
the name of Goldsmith. Thomas Minshull, the
fTeat-grandrHtlier of Milton's widow, married
Golilsmlth of Nantwich, as his sou Richard in-
formed Randiil Holmes, in a letter among the
Harl. MSS., noticed hj Mr. Huntbb, and. as
pointed out bj Ma. Hugbes ; but the writer of
that letter also married a ladj of the same name,
Eliiabethr daughter of Nicholas Goldsmith, of
Boswortb, in tUe county of Leicester. The fiict is
worth noticing, though no very accurate estimate
can be formed of the precise degree of relation-
■hip to be inferred from the title of " cousin." a
couple of centuries apo. My authority is the
Cheshrre visitation of 1663-4. Several other MS.
pedigrees are in existence i in. some of which the
kdy's name Ts slated ns Ellen, instead of Elizabeth,
and her father's as Richard InsteatT of Nicholas.
Thomas Minshull of Manchester, the uncla of
Milton's widow, deserves perhnps a passing word
of notiee, as having embalmed the mortal remains
of Humfjirey Cheiham. J. F, M.
Warrington.
Our elegant poet Fenton, having written a
Life of Milton, and no douht often visited his
ftace of nativity (Shelton, in the Staffordshire
'otteries),.liB surely must have known something
respecting Miltoid. third wife's family, who liv^
only a (vw miles fi-om thence; and if the Fenton
in a sad dilapidated state, arising from the damp-
ness of the room, which is without a fire-place.
Many of the volumes were the gift of a Doctor
Fowie, with his autograph, stating that they were
given as a lending library to the parishioners.
The present incumbent is the Rev. — Hughes,
a very excellent and zealous pastor, with the
modem church in Aberystwitli annexed, who,
should' this narrative meet bis eye, or be commu-
nicated to him, might be induced to make In-
quiries into the losses which had taken place, and
prevent farther dilapidations and dtcay, in what
was, no doubt, once considered a valuable acqui-
sition to the iiihabitonts of the parish.
Permit me to add, that in a room over the en-
trance porch of that venerable Saxon church St.
Peter in the East, at Oxford, there is a large lend-
ing library for tlie use of the parishioners, largely
contributed to by several of its recent and present
zealous incumbent, and to which- church so much
Las Islely been done to remove former eye-sores,
and to lender it one of the most chastely decorated
and best attended parish churches in the Uni-
versity. J. M. G-
In an old MS. headed
" Articles, Conditions, and Covenants, upon wlilch
the Provost and other officers of King's College in
Cambridge have admiUeii Mictiaei Mills, ScholUr of
tlie said College, to be Keeper oF the I'ublick Library
of the said CcJlege."
the seventh and last article is —
the neighbourhood of Shelton, it is not unlikely
they will throw some light on the family of ihe
poet's widow. Mbwikgtoh.
again decentlji, without t
■ ■ ■ ■ ignified to all eor
(Vol. vili., p. 93.)
On a recent visit to Aherystwith, I. walked to
the mother church of Llaiibadarn, a fine old build-
ing, which I was glail to find, since a former visit,.
' was undergoing important repairs in its exterior.
While inspecting the interior, I requested the
clerk to show me into the vestry, and upon in-
Siiring if the church possessed any blnck-letter
ibie, Foxe's Martyrs, or any of those volumes
which at the Reformation were chained to the
desks or pews, he opened n case in the vestry, in
which I was sorry to observe many volumes, not
of that early date, but about a century and a half
old, yet valuable in their day as well as at present.
I by
soever, upon any pretence, H permitled to carry any
book out of the library to tbcic chambers, or auy other-
wise to be used as a private book, it being against the
statutes of our college in ^''case provided."
Un<ier " Orders for regulating the pubilck library
of King's College," Order IV. :
" All the fellows and scholars, and all other persons
allowed the use of Ihe library, shall Mrefolly set up
the chjuns."
Michael Mills got King's in 1683. T. H.L.
In. the church of Wiggenliall, St. Mary the
Virgin,, the following books may he seen fastened
by chains to a wooden desk in the chancel ; Foxe's
Book of Martyrs, in three volumes, chained to the
same staple ; the Book, of llomilies ;. the Bible,
with calendar in rubrics.; and the norks of Bi-
shop Jewell, in one volume. The tttle-p^e is
lost from all the above : in other respects uiey are
in a fair stale of preservation, considering their
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[No. 216.
nntiqiiitj, of which their chsracters bcin^r ok
Engrisb, is A auBicient proof. W. B.D
At a loiree recently helJ at Crosby Hall, theri
were exhibited by tho church wnracns of St.
Benet'a, Gracecliurch Strool, Ernsmus' Commen-
tary on the Oospek in English, irith the cbuini
nnncTtcd, by which they were fastened In the
church. There are two Tolumes, in good pre-
servation, and black letter.
Ill Minster Church, near Margate, Kent, there
ia an oak cover to a Bible chained to a desk, temp,
Henry VIII. The whole of the letter-press haa
been taken away (b^ small pieces at a time) by
visitors to this beautiful Norman church.
J. W. BaowN.
At Bromsgrove Church, Worcestershire, ft copy
of Bishop Jewel's Sermon on 1 Cor, ix, K. (1609)
is chained to a small lectern.
At Suckley Church, also in Worcestershire,
there is a blaek-letter copy of the Homilies, I57S,
" tBedEiBA,
to Rudder (p. 59S.) for the InuUlion w Is tb*
Cdloqux.
The lodge, an old wooden house, in this piriih,
more properly deserves the character of an "old
out-of-the-way lumse." I remember it many
years ago, when it contuined a court, in whicti
were galleries, approached by stairs, and leading
to the sleeping-rooms of the mansion ; such ai
were formerly in the court-yard of the Bull and
Mouth Inn, London, and are now in the yard
of the New Inn, Gloucester. P. H. Fisbbb.
Stioud.
r TBE CALOTTPE PKOCKRS,
There is a copy of Fojte's MomimenU so chained
in the cbanccl ol Luton Church, Bedfnnlshire.
Uaoeenzib Walcott, M. a.
(Vol. 1
i., p. 49S.)
This place is not " an old out-of-the-way place,"
OS described to F. M., but stands in a paddock ad-
joining the churchyard, in the town of " Pninswick,
in Gloucestershire." It is a respectable old stone-
buiU house in the Eliz.ibetban style ; and stands
on nn eminence commanding a view of one of the
Steasant valleys which abound in this parish. I
o not know of, and do not believe that there
ia, any "full description of it." Neither of the
county histories, of Atkyns (1712), Rudder (1779),
Eii.lgo (1803), or Fosbrook (1807), mentions the
court-house, though probably It is referred lo by
Atkyns as " a handsome pleasant house adjoining
the town, [then] lately the seat of Mr. Wm.
If either Charles L or II. slept there, it was
doubtless King Charles I^ on the ninht of the 5th
of September, 1643, on which day he raised the
siege of Gloucester, and
" Tliousands of the royalist army murclied in (he
rain iip Painswiok hill, on the summit of which iliey
called Spoonbed hill. On this hill, Iradition says, as
the princes, weary of their present life, asked him,
' When should tliey go home?' ' I have no home to
po to," replied the disconsoUle king. He went on lo
Fains wick, and passed the night there." — Bibliothtea
GlouealriaiiM (Webb), Introduction, p. 68., referring
(Read before the Photagrapbii: Society, Nov. 3, 1853.)
I feel that some few words are required to
explain to the Society the reasons which have
induced me to call their attention to a branch of
photography, which of all others has been dwelt
upon most fully, and practised with such success
by so many eminent photographers.
The flourishing slat« of this Society, which is
constantly receiving an accession of new Members,
indicates the great number that have lately com-
menced the practice of photography, and to those
I hope my observations will *iot prove vmaecept-
able, because of all others the calotype process is
undoubtedly the simplest, and the most useful j
not only fi-om that simplicity, but from its being
available when other modes could not be used.'
I am also induced to urge on the attention of
the Society the advantages of this, one of the
earliest processes, because I think that there has
been lately siMih an eager desire for something
new, that we all have more or less run away from
a steady wish to improve if possible the original
details of Mr. Fox Talbot ; and have been tempted
to practise new modes, entailing much more care
and trouble, without attaining a correspondingly
favourable result..
Amongst antiquaries I have long noticed, that
many who have especially studied one particular
• In a communication I formerly addressed to my
Mend the Editor of "N. & ft.," one of the argumenu
I used in favour of the collodion process was, that the
Dperalor was enshled nt once to know the results of his
atiempls; and was not left in suspense concerning tlie
probable succcH, as with ■ paper picture requiring an
ifter-deTClopmenl.
1 made that observation not only from the partial
mccesa which had then attended my own manipuli-
;ioni, but from the degree of suecera which wa» at-
Lained by the majority of my photographic fiieods.
But that objection is now nimost entirely rbmond by
ihe comparative ceiUinty to which the paper process
■ reduced.
Dec. 17. 1853.]
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branch of archeology, think and speak slightingly
of those departments in which they are not much
interested. One fond of research in the early
tumuli is esteemed to be a mere *^pot and pan
antiquary" by one who, in his turn, is thought to
waste his time on ** mediaeval trash ;" and this feel-
ing pervades its many sections.
I hope I shall not give offence in saying, that
amongst photographers I have noticed somewhat
of a similar spirit, namely, an inclination to value
and praise a production, from the particular mode
of operation adopted, rather than from its in-
trinsic merits. The collodion, the waxed paper,
or the simple paper processes have merits per-
taining to themselves alone ; and those who ad-
mire each of these several processes are too apt to
be prejudiced in favour of the works produced by
them.
Before proceeding farther, permit me to observe,
that if some of my remarks appear too elementary,
and too well known by many assembled here, my
reason for making tbem is, that I have myself
experienced the want o^ plain simple rides^ not-
withstanding the many able treatises upon the
subject which have already been written : I hope,
therefore, I shall receive their pardon for entering
fully into detail, because a want of success may
depend upon what may appear most trivial.
I think the greatest number of failures result
from not having good iodized paper ; which may
be caused by
1. The quality of the paper ;
2. The mode of preparing it;
3. The want of proper dejinice proportions for a
particular make of paper ;
because I find very different results ensue unless
these things are relatively considered.
I have not met with satisfactory results in
iodizing the French and German papers, and the
thick papers of some of our English makers are
quite useless.
Turner's paper, of the " Chafford Mills" make,
is greatly to be preferred, and therefore I will
presume that to be used, and of a medium thick-
ness. The great fault of Turner's paper consists
in the frequent occurrence of spots, depending
upon minute portions of brass coming from the
machinery, or from the rims of buttons left in the
rags when being reduced to pulp, and thus a single
button chopped up will contaminate a large por-
tion of paper ; occasionally these particles are so
large that they reduce the silver solutions to the
metallic state, which is formed on the paper ; at
other times they are so minute as to simply de-
compose the solution, and white spots are left,
much injuring the effect of the picture.
Whatman's paper is much more free from
blemishes, but it is not so fine and compact in its
texture ; the skies in particular exhibiting a mi-
nutely speckled appearance, and the whole picture
admitting of much less definition.*
All papers are much improved by age ; pro-
bably in consequence of a change which the size
undergoes by time. It is therefore advisable that
the photographer, when he meets with a desirable
paper, should lay in a store for use beyond his
immediate wants.
It may not be inappropriate to mention here,
in reference to the minuteness attainable by paper
negatives, that a railway notice of six lines is per-
fectly legible, and even the erasure for a new
secretary's name is discernible in the accompany-
ing specimen, which was obtained with one of
Koss's landscape lenses, without any stop what-
ever being used, and after an exposure of five
minutes during a heavy rain. The sky is scarcely
so dense as could be desired, which will be fully
accounted for by the dull state of the atmosphere
during the exposure in the camera.
Having selected your paper as free from ble-
mishes as possible, which is most readily ascer-
tained by holding it up to the light (as the rejected
sheets do perfectly well for positives, it is well to
reject all those upon which any doubt exists),
mark the smoothest surface; — the touch will
always indicate this, but it is well at all times not
to handle the surfaces of papers more than can
be avoided. There is much difference in various
individuals in this respect ; some will leave a mark
upon the slightest touch, whereas others may rub
the paper about with perfect impunity.
I prefer paper iodized by the single process ;
because, independently of the ease and economy
of time, I think more rapidity of action is attained
by paper so treated, as well as that greater inten-
sity of the blacks, so requisite for producing a
clear picture in after printing.
To do this, take sixty grains of nitrate of silver
and sixty grains of iodide of potassium, dissolve
each separately in an ounce of distilled water, mix
and stir briskly with a glass rod so as to ensure
their perfect mixture ; the precipitated iodide of
silver will fall to the bottom of the vessel ; pour
off the fluid, wash once with a little distilled water,
then pour upon it four ounces of distilled water,
and add 650 grains of iodide of potassium, which
should perfectly redissolve the silver and form a
clear fluid. Should it not (for chemicals differ
occasionally in their purity), then a little more
should be very cautiously added until the fluid is
perfectly clear.
The marked side of the paper should then be
carefully laid upon the surface of this fluid in a
proper porcelain or glass dish. Then immediately
♦ The effect was illustrated in two negatives of the
same suhject, taken at the same time, exhibited to the
iveeting, and which may now be seen at Mr. Bell's by
those who take an interest in the subject.
598
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[No. 216.
remove it, lay it upon its dry side upon a piece of
blotting-paper, and stroke it over once or twice
with a glass rod ; this as effectually expels all the
particles of air as complete immersion ; it is also
more economical, and has the advantage of re-
quiring much less time in the after-immersion in
the hypo, when it is required to remove the iodide.
Either pin the paper up, or lay it down upon its
dry side, and when it becomes tolerably dry
(perfect dryness is not requisite), immerse it in
common cold water for the space of four hours,
changing the water during that time three or four
times, so that all the soluble salts may be re-
moved ; often move the papers, so that when se-
veral sheets are together, one does not press so
much upon another that the water does not equally
arrive at all the surface.
If this paper is well made, it is of a pale straw
colour, or rather primrose, and perfectly free
from unevenness of tint. It will keep good for
several years ; if, however, the soluble salts have
not been entirely removed, it attracts damp, and
becomes brown and useless or uncertain in its ap-
plication.
Some of our oldest and most successful operators
still adhere to and prefer the iodized paper pre-
pared by the double process, which certainly
effects a saving in the use of the iodide of potas-
sium. The following is the easiest way of so
preparing it: — Having floated your marked sur-
face of the paper on a 30-grain solution of nitrate
of silver, and dried it*, immerse it for 20 minutes
in a solution of iodide of potassium of 20 grains to
the ounce, when it immediately assumes the de-
sired colour. It is then requisite, however, that it
should undergo the same washing in pure water
as the paper prepared by the single process.
Upon the goodness of your iodized paper of
course depends your future success. Although it
is not requisite to prepare it by candle-light (which
in fact is objectionable from your inability to see
if the yellow tint is equally produced), I think it
should not be exposed to too strong a light ; and
as the fly-fisher in the dull winter mouths prepares
his flies ready for the approaching spring, so may
the photographer in the dull weather which now
prevails, with much advantage prepare his stock
of iodized paper ready for the approach of fine
weather.f
* For this purpose, strips of wood from 1 inch to
Ij square will be found much more convenient to pin
the paper to than the tape or string usually recom.
mended. The pressure of a corner of the paper to the
wood will render it almost sufficiently adherent with-
out the pin, and do away with the vexation of corners
tearing off.
f Some difference of opinion seemed to exist at the
reading of the paper, as to the propriety of preparing
iodized paper long before it was required for use, and
Many other ways of iodizing paper have been
recommended which have proved successful in dif-
ferent hands. Dr. Mansell, of Guernsey, pours the
iodide solution upon his paper, which previously has
had all its edges turned up so as to resemble a dish ;
he rapidly pours it off again after it has completely
covered the paper, and then washes it in three
waters for only ten minutes in all : he considers
that thereby none of the size of the paper is re-
moved, and a more favourable action is obtained.
In the experiments I have tried with the use of
the air-pump, as recommended by Mr. Stewart, I
have met with much trouble and little success ;
and I am inclined to attribute the very beautiful
specimens which he has produced to his own good
manipulation under a favourable climate.*
To excite the paper take 10 drops (minims) of
solution of aceto-nitrate of silver, and 10 drops of
saturated solution of gallic acid, mixed with 3
drachms of distilled water.
The aceto-nitrate solution consists of —
- 30 grains.
1 drachm.
1 ounce.
Nitrate of silver
Glacial acetic acid
Distilled water f
If the weather is warm, 6 drops of gallic acid to
the 10 of aceto-nitrate will suflice, and enable the
prepared excited paper to be kept longer.
This exciting fluid may be applied either directly
I have since received some letters from very able pho-
tographers who have attributed an occasional want of
success to this cause. I have, however, never myself
seen good iodized paper deteriorated by age. Many
friends tell me they have used it when several years
old ; and I can confirm this by a remarkable instance.
On Tuesday (Dec. 6) I was successful in obtaining a
perfectly good negative in the usual time from some
paper kindly presented to me by Mr. Mackinly, and
which has been in his possession since the year 1844.
I should add, the paper bears the mark of " J. What-
man, 1842," and has all the characters of Turner's best
photographic paper. It appears to be a make of What-
man's paper which I have not hitherto seen, and, from
its date, was evidently not made for photographic pur-
poses.
* The paper may be iodized by pouring over it
80 minims of the iodizing solution, and then smoothing
it over with the glass rod. Care must however be
taken not to wet the back of the paper, as an uneven-
ness of depth in the negative would probably be the
result.
f Much more attention should be paid to the purity
of the distilled water than is generally supposed. In
the many processes in which distilled water is used,
there is none in which attention to this is so much re-
quired as the calotype process. I mention this from
having lately had some otherwise fine negatives spoiled
by being covered with spots, emanating entirely from
impurities in distilled water purchased by me during a
late excursion into the country.
Dec. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
599
hy means of the glass rod, or by floating, as
before, and then the glass rod. But if floating is
resorted to, then a larger quantity must be pre-
pared. As soon as it is applied the paper should
be blotted ofi* by means of blotting-paper (which
should never be used more than once in this way,
although preserved for other purposes), and put
into the dark frames for use.'*' It is not requisite
that the paper should be perfectly dry. This ex-
citihg should be conducted by a very feeble light ;
the paper is much more sensitive than is generally
supposed ; in fact, it is then in a state to print
from by the aid of gas or the light of a common
lamp, and very agreeable positives are so produced
by this negative mode of printing.
I would advise the aceto-nitrate of silver and
the solution of gallic acid to be kept in two bottles
with wooden cases diff*ering in their shape, so that
they may not be mistaken when operating in com-
parative darkness. A ^ of an ounce of gallic acid
put into such a 3-ounce bottle, and quite filled up
with distilled water as often as any is used, will
serve a very long time.
I would also recommend that the paper should be
excited upon the morning of the day upon which it is
intended to be used ; no doubt the longer it is
kept, the less active and less certain it becomes. I
have, however, used it successfully eight days after
excitement, and have a good negative produced at
that length of time. The general medium time of
exposure required is five minutes. In the ne-
gatives exhibited, the time has varied from three
minutes to eight, the latter being when the day
was very dull.
The pictures should be developed by equal
quantities of the aceto-nitrate of silver and the
saturated solution of gallic acid, which are to be
mixed and immediately applied to the exposed
surface. This may be done several hours after the
pictures have been removed from the camera.
Care should be taken that the back of the pic-
ture does not become wetted, as this is apt to
produce a stain which may spoil the printing of
the positive.
If upon the removal of the paper from the dark
frame, the picture is very apparent, by first ap-
plying a little gallic acid, and immediately after-
wards the mixed solutions, less likelihood is in-
curred of staining the negative, which will be
more evenly and intensely developed. If a
browning take place, a few drops of strong acetic
acid will generally check it.
Should the picture be very tardy, either from
♦ It is very requisite that the glasses of the frames
should be thoroughly cleansed before the excited papers
are put into them. Although not perceptible to the
eye, there is often left on the ^lass (if this precaution is
not used) a decomposing influence which afterwards
shows itself by stains upon the negative.
an insufficient exposure, want of light, or other
cause, a few drops of a solution of pyrogallic acid,
made with 3 grains to the ounce of water, and a
drachm of acetic acid, will act very beneficially.
It sometimes gives an unpleasant redness upon
the surface, but produces great intensity upon
looking through it. Until the pyrogallic solution
was added, there was scarcely anything visible
upon the specimen exhibited, the failure having
in the first instance happened from the badness of
the iodized paper.
As soon as the picture is sufficiently developed
it should be placed in water, which should be
changed once or twice ; after soaking for a short
time, say half an hour, it may be pinned up and
dried, or it may at once be placed in a solution
almost saturated, or quite so, of hyposulphite of
soda, remaining there no longer than is needful
for the entire removal of the iodide, which is
Ifnown by the disappearance of the yellow colour.
When travelling it is often desirable to avoid
using the hyposulphite, for many reasons (besides
that of getting rid of extra chemicals), and it may
be relied on that negatives will keep even under
exposure to light for a very hmg time. I have
kept some myself for several weeks, and I believe
Mr. Rosling has kept them for some months.
The hyposulphite, lastly, should be eflectually
removed from the negative by soaking in water,
which should be frequently changed.
Some prefer to use the hypo, quite hot, or even
boiling, as thereby the size of the paper is re-
moved, allowing of its being afterwards readily
waxed.* I have always found that pouring a
little boiling water upon the paper effectually
accomplishes the object; some negatives will
readily wax even when the size is not removed.
A box iron very hot is best for the purpose ; but
the most important thing to attend to is that the
paper should be perfectly dry, and it should there-
fore be passed between blotting-paper and well
ironed before the wax is applied. Negatives will
even attract moisture from the atmosphere, and
therefore this process should at all times be re-
sorted to immediately before the application of the
wax.
Some photographers prefer, instead of using
wax, to apply a solution of Canada balsam in
spirits of turpentine. This certainly adds much
to the transparency of the negative ; and, in some
instances, may be very desirable. Even in so
simple a thing as white wax, there is much va-
* If boiling water is carefully poured in the nega-
tive in a porcelain dish, it will frequently remove a
great deal of colouring matter, thereby rendering the
negative still more translucent. It is astonishing how
much colouring matter a negative so treated will give
out, even when to the eye it appears so clean as not to
require it.
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[No. 216<
rietj ; some forming little flocculent appearances
on the paper, which is not the case with other
samples. Probably it may be adulterated with
Btearine, and other substances producing this dif-
ference.
Before concluding these remarks, I would draw
attention to the great convenience of the use
of a bag of yellow calico, made so large as to
entirely cover the head and shoulders, and con-
fined round the waist by means of a stout elastic
band. It was first, I believe, used by Dr. Mansell.
In a recent excursion, I have, with the greatest
ease, been enabled to change all my papers with-
out any detriment whatever, and thereby dis-
pensed with the weight of more than a single
paper-holder. The bag is no inconvenience, and
answers perfectly well, at any residence you may
chance upon, to obstruct the light of the window,
if not protected with shutters.
I would also beg to mention that a certain
portion of the bromide of silver introduced into
the iodized paper seems much to accelerate its
power of receiving the green colour, as it un-
doubtedly does in the collodion. Although it
does not accelerate its general action, it is de-
cidedly a great advantage for foliage. Its best
proportions I have not been able accurately to
determine ; but I believe if the following quantity
is added to the portion of solution of iodide of
silver above recommended to be made, that it will
approach very near to that which will prove to
be the most desirable. Dissolve separately thirty
grains of bromide of potassium, and 42 grains of
nitrate of silver, in separate half-ounces of dis-
tilled water ; mix, stir well, and wash the precipi-
tate ; pour upon it, in a glass measure, distilled
water up to one ounce; then, upon the addition of
245 grains of iodide of potassium, a clear solution
will be obtained ; should it not, a few more grains
of the iodide of potassium will effect it. It may
be well to add that I believe neither of the solu-
tions is injured by keeping, especially if preserved
in the dark.
I would here offer a caution against too great
reliance being placed upon the use of gutta-
percha vessels when travelling, as during the past
summer I had a bottle containing distilled water
which came into pieces ; and I have now a new
gutta-percha tray which has separated from its
sides. This may appear trivial, but when away
from home the greatest inconvenience results from
these things, which may be easily avoided.*
* Mr. Shadbolt suggested a remedy for the disasters
referred to by Dr. Diamond with regard to the gutta-
percha vessels. Gutta-percha is perfectly soluble in
chloroform. Mr. Shadbolt therefore showed that if
the operator carries a small bottle of chloroform with
him, he would be able to mend the gutta-percha at
any moment in a few seconds. It was not necessary
Dishes of zinc painted or japanned on the in-
terior surface answer better than gutta-percha,
and one inverted within another forms, when tra-
velling, an admirable lid-box for the protection of
glass bottles, rods, &c. On the Continent wooden
dishes coated with shellac varnish are almost en-
tirely used.
Belike (Vol. viii., p. 358.). — The reasoning by
which H. C. K. supports his conjecture that '* be-
like " in Macbeth is formed immediately by pre-
fixing be to a supposed verb, like, to lie, is in-
genious, but far from satisfactory. In the first
place, we never used to like in the sense of to lie^
the nearest approach to it is to lig. And in the
next place, the verb to ZtAe, to please, to feel or
cause pleasure, to approve or regard with appro-
bation, as a consequential usage (agreeably to the
Dutch form of Liicken (Kilian), to assimilate)^ is
common from our earliest writers. Instances
from Robert of Gloucester, Chaucer, and North,
with instances also of mislike^ to displease, may
be found in Richardson ; and others in Todd a
Johnson,
Now, when we have a word well established in
various usage (as like^ similis), from which other
usages may be easily deduced, why not adopt that
word as the immediate source, rather than seek
for a new one ? That like^ now written /y, is
from lic^ a corpse, t. c. an essence, has, I believe,
the merit of originality ; so too, his notion that
corpse is an essence, and the more, as emanating
from a rectory, which probably is not far removed
from a churchyard.
H. C. K., it is very likely, is right in his concep-
tion that all his three likes *^ have had originally
one and the same source ; " but he does not appear
inclined to rest contented with the very sufficient
one in our parent language, suggested by Ri-
chardson (in his 8vo. dictionary), the Gothic
lag-yan ; A.-S. lec-gan, or lic-gan, to lay or lie.
I should interpret belike (for so I should write
it with H. C. K.) by " approve." Q.
Bloomsbury.
Stage-coaches (Vol. viii., p. 439.). — The fol-
lowing Note may perhaps prove acceptable to
G. E. F. The article from which it was taken
contained, if I remember rightly, much more in-
formation upon the same subject :
" The stage-coach * Wonder,* from London to
Shrewsbury, and the * Hirondelle,* belonged to Taylor
of Shrewsbury. The * Hirondelle * did 120 miles in
8 hours and 20 minutes. One day a team of four
greys did 9 miles in 35 minutes. The * Wonder * left
that the bottle should hold above half an ounce of
chloroform.
" Dec. 17. 1853.]
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i Xdon Yard, Sbrembar;, one morning at 6 o'clock, and
r vai It IilingtOD at 7 o'clock the same evening, being
■; only 13 hours on tlie road." — The Tima, July II, 1842.
W. E. ». S.
■ Birthplace of King Edward V. (Vol. viii.,
p. 46S.). -
"1471. In this jcar, the Ibird day of NoTember.
Queen Elizabeth, being, as before is said, in West-
minster Sanctuary, >rsa lighted of a fair prince. And
»lthin the said place the said child, without pomp, was
after christened, whose godfathers were the abbat and
prior of the said place, and the Lady Scrope god-
mother." — Fabian's Chronicle, p. 659., Lend. 1811.
M&CKBKZIB WaLCOTT, M.A.
Fuller, In hia Worthies, -vol. W. p. 414., sajB Ed-
, -ward, eldest son of Edward IV. and Elizabeth his
J queen, was bom in the saiictuarj of Westminster,
' Ifovember 4, 1471. A.
: Ringing Church Bells at Death (YoX. vlii.,
, p. 53. &c.). — The custom of ringing the church
Dell, as soon as might be convenient after the pass-
ing of a soul from ita earthlj prison-house, in the
manner described in " N. & Q.," existed ten yeara
■ffo in the parish of Banniarsb, in the West Riding
of Yorkshire, and had existed there beforelbecame
ita rector, twenty-lwo years ago. First a brisk
peal was rung, if I mistake not, on one of the
lighter bells, mliich vras raised and lowered ; then,
upon the same, or some other of the lighter bells,
the sex of the deceased was indicated by a given
number of distinct strokes, —I cannot with cer-
tainty recall the respective numbers ; lastly, the
tenor bell was made to declare the supposed age
of the deceased by as many strokes as had been
Gonnted years. John Jimes.
Whq,l is the Origin of •' Gelling into a Scrape ? "
fVol.viji., p. 292.). — It may have been, first, a
tumble in the mire ; by such a process many of us
la childhood have both literally and figuratively
"got into a sernpe." Or, secondly, the expression
may have arisen from the use of the razor, where
to be shaved was regarded as an indignity, or
practised as a token of deep humiliation. D'Ar-
vieux mentions an Arab who, having received a
wound in hia jaw, chose rather to hazard his life,
than allow the surgeon to take off his beard.
When Hanun had shaved off half the beards of
David's servants, " David sent to meet them, be-
cause they were greatly ashamed : and the king
said, ' Tarry at Jericho until your beards be
grown, and then return ' " (2 Sam. x. 4, 5.). The
expedient of shaving off the other half seems not
to have been thought on, though that would na-
turally have been resorted to, had not the in-
dignity of being rendered beardless appeared in-
tolerable. Under this 6gure the desolation of a
country is threatened. " In the same day shall
the Lord shave with a razor that is hired, by them
beyond the river, even by the King of Assyria,
the head, and the hair of the feet, and it shall
consume the iseard" (Isaiah vii. 20.). Agiun, as
a token of grief and humiliation : "Then Job
arose and rent his mantle, and shaved bis beard,"
Sc— "There came fourscore men, having thar
beads shaven, and their clothes rent, and having
cut themselves," &c. (Jer. xli. S.). Or, thirdly,
the allusion may be to the consequence of be-
coming infected with some loathsome cutaneous
disease. " So Satan smote Job with sore boila
from the sole of his foot unto hia crown. And he
took him a potsherd' to terape himself withal"
(Job ii. 7, 8.). J.W.T.
Dewshury.
Bigh Dutch and Lom Dutch (Vol. viii., p. 478.).
— Nieder Deutsch, or rather Neder Duitscb, is the
proper name of the Dutch language ; at leaat it is
that which the people of Holland give to it. Low-
German doea not necessarily mean a Tulgar patois.
It is essentially as different a langnage from High
German, or rather more so, as Spanish is from
Portuguese. T believe German purlsls would
point out Holstein, Hanover, Brunswick (not
Dresden), aa the places where German is most
classically spoken. I wish one of your German
(not Anglo-German) readers would set us right
on this point. The terra Dutch, ns applied to the
language of Holland as distinguished from that of
German, Is a comparative modernlBm in English.
High Dutch and Low Dutch used to be the dis-
tinction ; and when Coverdale's Translation oftht
Bible is said to have been "compared with tfae
Douche," German, and not what we now call
Dutch, is meant. Deutsch, in short, or Teutsch,
la the generic name for the language of the Teu-
tones, for whom Germani, or Ger-mauner, was
not a national appellation, but oue which merely
betokened their warlike character. E. C. H.
Discovery of Planets (Vol. vii., p. 211.) —
I should wish to ask Mb. H. Walter, who has a
learned answer about the discovery of planets,
whether the idea which he there broaches of a lost
world where sin entered and for which mercy was
not found, be hia own original invention, or
whether be is indebted to any one for it, and if
so, to whom? QosBTOB.
Olones at Fairs (Vol. viii., pp. 136.421.). —
This title has changed into a question of the open
hand as an emblem of power. In addition to the
instances cited by your correspondentB, the fol-
lowing may be mentioned.
The Romans used the open hand aa a standard.
, The Kinga of Ulster adopted it as their peculiar
cognizance ; thence it wa< transferred to the
shield of the baronets created Knights of Ulster
by James I. ; to many of whose families recent
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NOTES AND QUERIE&
[No. 216.
myths have in consequence attributed bloody
deeds to account for the cognizance of the bloodj
hand. The Holte family of Aston Hall, near this
town, affords an instance of such a modern myth,
which has, I think, already appeared in *' N. & Q."
The subject of modem myths would form a very
interesting one for your pages.
An open hand occurs on tombs in Lycia. (Fel-
lowes' ^cta, p. 180.)
The Turks and Moors paint an open hand as a
specific against the evil eye. (Shaw*s Travels in
Barharyy p. 243.)
The open hand in red pflint is of common oc-
currence on buffalo robes among the tribes of
North America, and is also stamped, apparently
by the natural hand dipped in a red colour, on the
monuments of Yucatan and Guatemala. (Stephen*s
Yucaian.) £dxn Wabwick.
Birmingham.
Awk (Vol. viii., p. 310.).— H. C. K. asks for
instances of the usage of the word awk. He will
find one in Richardson's Dictionary^ and two of
amUy :
« The mAe or Ua hand."— HoUand*8 Plutorch,
" They receive her auJdy^ when she (Fortune) pre-
senteth herself on the right hand.** — Ibid,
" To undertake a thing awkely, or ungainly. **«-Ful-
ler's Worthies,
Q.
Bloomsbury.
Tenet (Vol. viii., p. 330.) was used by Hooker
and Hall, and is also found in state trial, 1 Hen. V.,
1413, of Sir John Oldcastle. Sir Thomas Browne,
though he writes tenets in his title, has tenent in
c i. of b. vii. But these variations may be gene-
rally placed to the account of the printers in those
days. (See Tenbt, in Richardson.) Q.
Bloomsbury.
LoveU of Astwell (Vol. viii., p. 363.).— Since I
wrote on this subject,* I have consulted Baker*s
excellent History of Northamptonshire^ and I find
the pedigree (vol. i. p. 732.) fully bears out my
strictures on Betham and Burke*s account of
Thomas Lovett, and his marriage with Joan Bil-
linger. With regard to Elizabeth Boteler, Mr.
Baker simply states that Thomas Lovett, Esq., of
Astwell, married to his first wife Elizabeth, daugh-
ter of John Boteler, Esq., of Watton Woodhall,
Herts ; but I observe that (Idem. vol. i. p. 730.)
there is in Wappenham Church (the parish of
which Astwell is a hamlet) a brass to the memory
of " Constance, late the wife of John Boteler, Esq.,
and sister to Henry Vere, Esq., who died May 16,
1499 :" this lady, 1 conjecture, was the mother of
Elizabeth Boteler, afterwards Lovett; and her
daughter must have been heir to her mother, as
the arms of Vere and Green are quartered on her
grandson Thomas Lovett*s tombstone in the same
church ; as well as on another monument of the
Lovetts, the inscription of which is now obli*
terated. The pedigree of the Botelers in Clutter-
buck (HertSi vol. ii. p. 475.) does not give this
marriage ; but John Boteler, Esq., of Watton
Woodhall, who was of full age in 1456, and whose
first wife Elizabeth died Oct. 28, 1471, b said to
have married to his second wife Constance, daugh-
ter of — Downhall of Gedington, co. North-
amptonshire. Can this be the lady buried at
Wappenham ? She was the mother of John Bo-
teler, Esq., of Watton Woodhall, Sheriff of Herts
and Essex in 1490 ; and therefore her daughter
would not be entitled to transmit her arms to her
descendants. Or could the last-mentioned John
Boteler, who died in 1514, have had another wife
besides the three mentioned in Clutterbuck?
There can be no question that one of the two
John Botelers of Watton Woodhall married Con*
stance de Vere, as the marriage is mentioned on
the monument at Wappenham. I hope some of
your genealogical readers may examine this point.
Tbwaxs.
Irish Rhymes (Vol. viii., p. 250.). — In •'The
Wish," appended to IThe Ocean of Young (after-
wards suppressed in his collected works, but quoted
by Dr. Jonnson), are the following rhymes :
" Oh ! may I steal
Along the vale
Of humble life, secure firom foes.**
And again :
** Have what I have,
And live not have,**
And yet again :
<( Then leave one beam
Of honest fame.
And soorn the labour'd monument.**
And in his ** Instalment" (which shared the same
fate as "The Wish"):
** Oh I how I long, enkindled by the theme,
In deep eternity to launch thy name,^
Young was no " Milosian : " so these rhymes go
to acquit Swift of the Irishism attributed to him
by CuTHBBBT Beds ; as, taken in connexion with
those used by Pope and others, it is clear they
were not uncommon or confined to the Irish poets.
At the same time, I cannot think them either
elegant or musical, nor can I agree with one of
your correspondents, that their occasional use
destroys the sameness of rhyme. If poets were to
introduce eccentric rhymes at pleasure, to pro-
duce variety, the shade of Walker would I think
be troubled sorely. Axbxandbb Amdbbws.
Passage in Boerhaave (Vol vii., p. 45d.). — As
the passage is incorrectly given from memory^ k
Dec. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
ia not eftsj to say where it is to be found. I ven-
tare, however, to hy before th« Fo&EiaN SmtoEON
file following, from the Iiiatituiionea Mediea cat.
digetUt, ab Herm. Boerhaave (Vienna, 1775),
p. 362. :
" Unde tamen mon lenilTi per hai mutationes aceiilit
ineritibilis, et ex ipi^a sanitate seguens."
And from Ph. Ambr. Jfarhesz, Prielectiones in
H. Boerh,, Init. Med. (Vienna, 1785), vol. iiL
p. 44.:
"Turn Tivere cessat decripilus aenei, sine morbo in
mortem transiens, iiiii seiiectutia vitiura ineluctabile
pro morbo habeas, "
See also § 475. Possibly the required passage
may be found in Burton's AccowU of the Life, ^.
o^ Dr. Boerhaane (London, 1743). Allow me,
Lowever, to quote the following f^m a discourse
of Joauues Oosterdijk Schacht (Boerhaave's co-
temporary), delivered by him September 12, 1729,
when be entered on the profeasorsbip at Utrecht.
ZVom this it will appear that the words ascribed
to Boerhaave may be attributed to other learned
slightest appea
If any ft
Tlien Crato the
iplcs, threw himself at the
apostle's feet, believed, and were baptiied ; and Crato,
preachinif openly the faith of the Lord Jeaus became
a true philoiopher. Moreover, the two brothen who
before destroyed their property to no purpose, now, in
obedience to [he evangelical precept, aold their jewels.
And amultitude of believer! began toattachtbemselvat
to St. John, and to follow hia »lep»."_ Ordiriaa Vita-
U; h. 11. ch. T. (Mr. Fotreater'a tranalatiiMi), Bofan'a
edit, voL i. pp. 24a 241.
J. SajfBOH.
The Curfew (Vol. vii., pp. 167. 539.) Add to
the already long list of places where the cnrfew
bell is still rung the following :
St. Werburgh's (Cathedral) Cheater, Acton,
Audlem, Nantwich, Wybunburyj all in Cheahiro
and adjoining parishes,
Madeley, Staffordshire. In thiB place i
Audlem, Nantwich.
T. H. Eesslet, B.A.
"Net
mi igitv
Bialis supem
tantum comitatam olirepere. Bed ipHm inorbum esse,
at olim vidit vetustai, et hodiema sbunde docet eipe-
nentia." — Joann. Oosterdijk Schacht, Oratie Inangv-
nOit cat. (Traj. ad Rhenum, 17S9).
From the Naeortchtr. L. D. R.
Ginnekin,
Craton the Philosopher (Vol. viii., p. 441.). —
" At that time two brothers, who were eitremely
rich, sold their inheritance by the advice of Crato the
philosopher, and bought diamonds of singular value,
which they crushed in the Forum before all the people,
thus mating an ostentatious eihibition of their con-
tempt for the world. St. John, happening to be pass-
ing through the Forum, witnessed this display, and,
pitying the folly of these miiguided men, kindly gave
them sounder advice. Sending for Crato their master,
who had led them into error, he blamed the wasteful
deitruction of valuable property, and instructed him
in the true meaning of conlempt for the world accord-
log to Christ's doctrine, quoting the precept of that
teacher, his own Master, when, in reply to the young
man who inquired of Him how he might obtain eternal
life. He said, ■ If thou wlh be perfect, go and sell all
have treasure in heaven ; and come 'and follow me.'
Crato the philosopher, acknowledging the soundness
of the apostle's teaching, entreated him to restore the
Jewels which had been foolishly crushed to their former
eonditinn. St. John then gathered op the precious
fiaxments, and. while he held them in his hand, prayed
stipala Thomas' Blount (Vol. viil., p. 2S6.). — Since
forwarding the monumental inscription inaerted
as above, which makes this gentleman's death to
take place on Dec. 26, I find that Sir William
Dugdnie, with whom Blount was on terms of in-
timacj, as he calls bim " my very worthy friend,"
has the following notice of him in hie Diary under
the year 1679:
prayer being c
eluded. I
eyes r
His
Thus making a difference of ten days, which it
probablv an error made by the engraver of the
inscription. It may be interesting to know from
the same authority, that Mr. Blount's chamber
was in Fig Tree Court, on the hack side of the
Inner Temple Hall, London, his country resi-
dence being at Orlton. From his correspondence
with Sir William, it appears that he rendered him
much assistance in his works. J. B. Whitbosiie.
Pronuncialiom of " Cohe" and " Cowper"
(Vols.iv. and v.piMsim,- Vol.vi., p.I6.). — So much,
and so well to the purpose, has already been said
in " N. & Q,," in support of the averment that
the former of these names was originally pro-
nounced Cooit, that it may appear needless to
adduce additional evidence ; still, considering the
source from which the testimony I am now bring-
ing forward is derived, I think I may stand
excused for recurring to the subject. It is from
the Court Books of the manor of Mitcham (the
birthplace of Sir Edward Coke), and from iLe
parochial registers ; in which, and, indeed, in all
cotemporarj records where sound was followed in
the spelling, I find the name of this family wri
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 216.
Cook or Coohe. The great Sir Edward's own
baptismal register is thus entered — 1551, Feb. 7.
"Edward Cooke genero." Surely this is con-
clusive. The same pronunciation was vulgarly
followed almost up to the present time. There
must be many who remember at the Norfolk
elections the cry of " Cook for ever," as well as
that of the opposite political party who threw up
their caps for Woodhouse; for so Wodehouse was in
like manner pronounced. Again, the Hobarts,
another Norfolk family, were always called Huh'
harts ; and more anciently Bokenham, Buckenham,
Todenham, Tuddenham^ and others I could name,
showing that in the Norfolk dialect the usage
was in pronunciation to soften the o.
Now as regards the sound of Cowper, the same
class of authorities, old deeds, court rolls, and
parish registers, appears to lead to a different con-
clusion from that of your other correspondents.
We have now no Cowper family of Norfolk origin ;
oi Coopers we have multitudes : the names of whose
forefathers were written Couper or Cowper ; and
if written as pronounced, the analogical inference
is that the original pronunciation was Cowper,
Cooper being merely the modern way of spellmg ;
and curiously enough, the parish of Hoo, in this
county, is called and now usually spelt How,
G. A. C.
Unhid (Vol. viii., p. 353.). — Unketh, uncouth,
are different writings of the same word. Jamieson
has uncoudy, which he explains, dreary; and
coudt/, i. e. couth, couthy, nearly allied to cuth,
notus (see couih (could), uncouth^ unketh, in
Richardson ; and coudj/, uncoudy, in Jamieson).
Lye has *' Uncwid, solitary ; whence, perhaps, the
not entirely obsolete unkid'* Grose also tells us
that, in the north, uncuffs and uncuds mean news.
It is very plain that these are all the same word,
differently written and applied. Q.
Bloomsbury.
To split Paper (Vol. viii., p. 413.). —
" Procure two rollers or cylinders of glass, amber,
resin, or metallic amalgam ; strongly excite them by
the well-known means so as to produce the attraction
of cohesion, and then, with pressure, pass the paper
between the rollers ; one half will adhere to the under
roller, and the other to the upper roller ; then cease
the excitation, and remove each part." — From the Civil
Engineer and Architect's Journal.
A. H. B.
La Fleur des Saints (Vol. viii., p. 410.). — The
work which Moliere intended was in all proba-
bility the French translation of a Spanish work
entitled Flos Sanctorum, The author of it was
Alonso de Villegas. It was first printed at
Toledo in 1591, and an English version appeared
at Douay in 1615. Some idea of the contents
may be gathered from the following title: Flos
Sanctorum, Historia General de la Vidoj y fieeftoi
de Jesu Christo Dios y Sehor nuestro ; y de iodot
los Santos, de que reza, y haze Jiesta la IgUm
Catolica, ^c. My copy is the Madrid editio& of
1653. C. Hakdwicc
St Catharine's Hall, Cambridge.
Dr. Butler and St. Edmund's Bury (VoL loiL,
SI 25.). — Could this have been Dr. Williaor
utler, of eccentric memory, bom at Kpsw^
about 1535, and buried in St. Mary's Ghurdi,
Cambridge, 1618 ? G. A. C.
Major Andre (Vol. viii., p. 174.). — Two
nephews of Major Andre, sons of his sister, Mrs.
Mills, are resident in Norwich, both being sur-
geons there. Perhaps, on application, your cor-
respondent Servieks would be able to obtain from
them some serviceable information regarding this
unfortunate officer. G. A. C.
Wooden Tombs and Eff^es (Vol. viii., p. 255.).
— In the church of Chew -Magna, co. Somerset, is
the effigjr of Sir John Hautville, cut (says Collui-
son, vol. ii. p. 100.) in one solid piece of Irish oak.
He lies on nis left side, resting on his hip and
elbow, the left hand supporting his head. The
figure is in armour, with a red loose coat without
sleeves over it, a girdle and buckle, oblong shield,
helmet, and gilt spurs. The right hand rests on
the edge of the shield. This monument was
brought many years ago from the neighbouring
church (now destroyed) of Norton Hautyille. Sir
John lived temp. Henry III. The popular story
of him is that he was a person of gigantic strength,
and that he carried, for a feat, three men to tiie
top of Norton church tower, one under each arm,
and the third in his teeth! (Collinson, vol. ii.
p. 108.) J.E.J.
FroissarCs Accuracy (Vol. viii., p. 494.). — The
accuracy of Froissart as an historian has never
been questioned, says T. J. This assertion ought
not to pass without a note. If T. J. will look
into Hallam*s Lit. of Europe, ch. iii., he will find
that judicious and learned critic comparing Frois-
sart with Livy for " fertility of historical inven-
tion,*' or, in other words, for his unhesitatingly
supplying his readers with a copious and pictu-
resque statement of the details of events, where
they were palpably out of the reach of his know-
ledge.
As a gleaner of chivalrous gossip, and a painter
of national manners, Froissart is perhaps un-
equalled. Take up his account of a campaign on
the Scottish borders, and he relates the proceed-
ings in his amusing style, as if he had been behind
every bush with the Scotch, and hunting for
them in vain with every English banner. But if
his accuracy be inquired into, he tells you that
Carlisle, which he calls Cardoel en Gkdtes, is on
I>EC. 17. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
605
the Tjne, and was garrisoned in vain with
*' grand plants de Galois,** to prevent the Scotch
from gassing the Tyne under its walls (vol. i.
eh. xviii. xix. zxi.)*
So much bj way of note ; but there is a Query
"which I should be glad to see answered. Bayle
(art. Froissart) quotes a German critic as affirm-
ing that in the Lyons edition of Froissart, by
Denys Saulvage, 1559: ''Omnia quas AuIsb Gallicse
displicebant, deleta, vixque decimam historiae
partem relictam esse.'* Does Col. Jobnes notice
this inaccuracy in the edition generally procur-
able ? And does he state whether he saw, or con-
sulted, or received any benefit from the exist-
ence of the MS. copy of Froissart, once in the
library of Breslaw ? Henby Walter.
Nursery Rhymes (Vol. viii., p. 452.). — I fear
J. R.*s anxiety to find a Saxon origin to a nursery
rhyme has suggested unconsciously a version which
does not otherwise exist.* The rhyme in my
young days used to be, —
i(
Hushaby, baby, on the tree top,
When the wind blows the cradle will rock.**
— a sufficient rhyme for the nursery.
Eden Warwick.
Birmingham.
"^ip, hip, hurrah .''* (Vol. viii., pp. 88. 323.).—
Sib J. Embrson Tennent, in answering Mr.
Bbemt*s observation at p. 88., seems to have been
fighting a shadow. Upon reference to Mr. Chap-
SjU's Collection^ vol. ii. p. 38., quoted by Mr.
bent, it appears that a note by Dr. Burney, in a
copy of Hawkins's History of Music, in the British
Museum, is the authority for the reading :
" Hang up all the poor hep drinkers,
Cries old Sim, the King of skinkers.**
In the folio edition of Ben Jonson's Worhs,
published by Thomas Hodgkin, London, 1692, in
which the "Leges Convivales** are I believe for
the first time prmted, the verses over the door of
the Apollo are given, and the couplet runs :
** Hang up all the poor hop drinkers,
Cries Old Sym, the King of skinkers.**
Probably Mr. Chappell misread Dr. Burney's
MS. note : at all events Mr. Brent's ingenious
suggestion is without foundation. A. F. B.
Diss.
• Dodo (Vol. vii., p. 83.). — Dodo or Doun Bar-
d6lf married Beatrix, daughter of William de
Warren of Wormegay. She was a widow in 1209,
and remarried the famous Hubert de Burgh.
Anon.
Oaths (Vol. viii., p. 364.). — Your correspondent
assumes that the act of kissing the Bible, or other
book containing the Holy Gospels, by a judicial
witness, is a part of the oath itself. Is it such, or
is it merely an act of reverence to the book ? In
support of the latter supposition, I would quote
Archdeacon Faley, who says, that after repeating
the oath, —
"The juror kisses the book; the kiss, however,
seems rather an act of reverence to the contents of the
book, as in the Popish ritual the priest kisses the
gospel before he reads it, than any part of the oath.**
— Mor, and PoL Ph^, p. 193., thirteenth edition.
In none of the instances given by C. S. G. does
kissing the book appear to be essential. Does
not this rather favour Dr. Paley's explanation ?
which, if it be correct, would, I think, afford
grounds for concluding that the practice of kissing
the book accompanied the taking of ancient oaths,
and is not, as G. S. G. suggests, an addition of
later times.
Again, may I bring forward the same authority
in opposition to that quoted by your correspondent
with reference to the origin of the term corporal
oath :
" It is commonly thought that oaths are denomi-
i)ated corporal oaths from the bodily action which ac-
companies them, of laying the right hand upon a book
containing the four gospels. This opinion, however,
appears to be a mistake, for the term is borrowed from
the ancient usage of touching upon these occasions the
corporale, or cloth, which covered the consecrated ele-
ments." — P. 1 9 1 .
R. V. T.
Mincing Lane.
The old custom of taking the judicial oath by
merely laying the right hand upon the book, is un-
doubtedly, thinks Erica, of Pagan origin. In my
humble opinion it is far too common with us to
ascribe thmgs to Pagan origin. I would venture to
assert that the origin of this form of judicial oath
may be traced to Deuteronomy xxi. 1 — 8., where
at the sacrifice offered up in expiation of secret
murder, the rulers of the city nearest the spot
where the corpse was found were in presence of
the corpse to wash their hands over the victim,
and say, " Our hands did not shed this blood, nor
did our eyes see it." Cetrep.
Mayors and Sheriffs (Vol. viii., p. 126.). — In
answer to a Subscriber, there can be little or no
doubt, I consider, but that the mayor of a town
or borough is the principal and most important
officer, and ought to have precedence of a sheriff
of a town or borough. By stat. 5 & 6 Wm. IV.
cap. 76. sec. 57., it is enacted, " That the mayor
for the time being of every borough shall, durmg
the time of his mayoralty, have precedence in all
places within the borough." As sheriffs of towns,
and counties of towns, do not derive their ap-
pointments from the Crown, but from ithe councils
of their respective towns, &c. (see sec. 61. of the
606
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 216.
above Act), I do not imagine that thej can legally
claim precedence of mayors, on the alleged ground
of any ** representation of Majesty," in the face of
the particular enactment aboye quoted; which,
indeed, seems to me to give to the mayor within
his own borough precedence of a high sheriff of
a county, if present on any public occasion. I am
not aware that the sheriff of a borough, as such,
can ^* claim to have a grant of arms, if he has not
any previous ;" although I have no doubt he may
readily obtain one, upon payment of the usual
fees. ' C. J.
Mousehuni (Vol. viii., p. 516.). —
** A Mousehunt is a little animal of the species of
weasel ; it has a very slender body, about the length of
a rat, with a long hairy tail, bushy at the end ; the
back is of a reddish- brown colour, the hair long and
smooth ; the belly is white, as are also its feet ; it runs
very swiftly, swaying its body as it moves along from
side to side. The head is short and narrow, with small
ears, like those of a rat ; the eyes are black, piercing,
and very bright. Their chief food is rats, mice, young
chickens, little birds, and eggs. They frequent mole-
hills, and are often caught in the traps set for the
moles ; they are destroyed by ferrets and dogs. These
mousehunts live, for the most part, in holes beneath
the roots of trees, or in old buildings.*'
The above description of the Mousehunt is given
in Tlie History of a Field-mouse by Miss Black.
Should it be thought of sufficient authority to de-
serve a place in " N. & Q.," the coincidence which
led " Little Downy" to be read to a little girl on
the morning of Nov. 26 will amuse. E. B. R.
" Salus popvli," ^c. (Vol. viii., p. 410.).— -Selden,
in his Table Talk (art. People), states, on what
authority I know not, that this was part of the law
of Xn Tables. E. S. T. T.
Love Charm from a FoaTs Forehead (Vol. viii.,
p. 292.).— The word which H. P. wants is Hip-
jiomanes. The reference which the Lexicons give
is to Aristotle's History of Animals ^ viii. 23. 5.
I shall be ^lad to have some of H. P.'s refe-
rences to Tacitus, as I cannot now call one to
mind. In connexion with the subject, I should
like to know if the white star, which used to be so
fashionable on horses* foreheads, was always or
generally produced artificially. W. Fbasbb.
Tor-Mohun.
Land of Oreen Oinger fVol. viii., pp. 160. 227.).
— So named, in all probability, from green ginger
having been manufactured there. Green ginger
was one of the favourite conserves of our ances-
tors, and great quantities of it were made in this
country from dried ginger roots. In an old black-
letter work without date, but unmistakeably of the
sixteenth century, entitled The Booh of pretty
Cdceits, taken out of Latine^ French^ Duteh^ and
English^ there is a receipt ^ To make Green Gin-
ger," commencing thus : — ** Take rases of cased
ginger and use them in this sort." I need not
quote the long-winded receipt. Suffice it to say
that dried ginger was placed in alternate layers
with fine white sand, and the whole mass sept
constantly wet until the ginger became quite son.
It was then washed, scraped clean, and put into
sirup. There can be no greater difficulty in finding
a derivation for the Land of Green Ginger, than
for Pudding Lane, or Pie Corner.
W. PniKUtToir.
Ham.
MiittHKntaxisi.
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so rich in philological illustration, and a knowledge
that Mr. Way's labours have been greatly impeded by
his removal from London, where only he can meet with
the authorities which he is obliged to consult, may
well explain the delay which has taken place in its
publication. But we doubt not that the Camden
Council are justified iu the hope which they have ex*
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is received, will encourage the editor to proceed with all
possible dispatch to the conclusion of the work.
Rich, like the Promptorium, in philological illustra-
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social history of the thirteenth century, is the next
work; and for which the Camden Members are in-
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James Morton. The Aneren Riwk ; a Treatise on the
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that many have thought seriously of editing. The in«
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selecting it for publication ; while the manner in whieh
it has been edited by Mr. Morton, and the translation
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cue who may favour him with communications.
Books Received. — As usual, we have a large item
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prising caterer of good and cheap books, Mr. Bohn.
We have two volumes of his Standard Library^ namely,
'Adam Smith's Theory of Moral Sentiments ; and Dip-
' wertation on the Origin of Languages, with the Biogra^
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Stewart — and a work of greater present interest,
though in itself of far less importance, namely, Ranke*8
Mistory of Servia, and his Insurrection in Bosnia, trans-
lated from the German, by Mrs. A. Kerr, and the Slave
JPtovinces of Turkey, chiefly from the French of M. Cy-
prien Robert, a volume which will be read with eager-
ness in the present condition of the political world.
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work is an edition of Gibbon's Decline and Fall, with
the notes of Guizot, Wenck, and other continental
writers ; and farther illustrations by an English Church-
man. In thus choosing Gibbon, Mr. Bohn has not
•bown his usual tact. He may not mean his edition
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not so intended. We speak thus freely, because we
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CONTENTS.
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Folk Lore in the Reign of King Jamei I. • -
The Ballad of Sir Hugh, &c. . -
PennsyWanian Folk Lore : Christmas ...
County Hhrmes ......
Legends or the County Clare: Fueniricouil (Fingal)
and the Giant, by Frances Robert Davies . .616
Folk Lobb Miscellanies : ~ Yorkshire Tradition .-
Custom on St. Thomas's Day— Custom on Inno.
cents' Day— Marriage Custom at Knutsford, Cheshire
— Folk Lore in Hampshire ~ Propitiating the Fairies
.-Cornish Folk Lore— King Arthur in the Form
of a Raven — St. Clement's Apple Feast in Stafford,
shire— Newr Year's Eve and New Year's Day - 617
Minor Notes : — Carlist Calembourg —Jewish Custom
— Lachlan Macieane — German Tree — The late
Dnke . . - . . . .618
The Story of Crispin and Crispianus, by J. Davies
Devlin .......
Minor Qubries : -- Barrels Regiment — Okey the Regi*
cide — Lady Mason's Third Husband — Creation of
' Knights— Martyn the Regicide — History of the
Nonjurors — Florin and the Royal Arms — A MiS'
tietoe Query ...... 620
Minor Qubries with Answbbs : — Sewell Family —
Greek Epigram — Translations from JEschytus —
Prince Memnon's Sister— " Oh ! for a blast,*'^ &c. —
Robin Hood's Festival — Church in Suffolk -
BiPLiBS ; .»
Hiscbllanbocs : —
Books and Odd Volumes wanted
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisements
619
• 621
Children called Imps • • « • • 623
The Divining Rod . . . . .623
Change of Meaning in Proverbial Expressions, &c. . 624
Sneezing, by Francis John Scott, &c. ... 624
Books burned by the common Hangman, by W.
Fraser, &c. ...... 625
Jews in China, by T. J. Buckton .... 626
Poetical Tavern Signs ..... 626
TheCurfew, by Cuthbert Bede, B.A. . . - 628
Photographic Correspondence:— Photographic En.
graving — Collodion Negatives . • • • 628
Bbplibs to Minor Qubries :—** London Labour and the
London Poor "—> Felicia Hemans's inedited Lyric —
Sir Arthur Aston — Grammar in relation to Logic —
Descendants of Milton — Pronunciation of Bible
Names — Henry L's Tomb — Bells at Berwick-upon-
Tweed — Return of Gentry, temp. Henry VL — P«ter
Allan — Burial in an erect Posture'— The Word
** Mob" — Gen. Sir C Napier — To Come— Passage
]n Sophocles — Party-Similes of the Seventeentli Cen-
turv — Judges styled Reverend — Veneration for the
Oak — Rapping no Novelty • • - .629
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. 633
V01..VIIL — No.217.
rOLK LORB IN THB BEIGN Or KING JAMBS I.
In turning over the pages of an old book of
controversial divinity, I stumbled upon the fol-
lowing illustrations of folk lore ; which, as well
from their antiquity as from their intrinsic curio-
sity, seem worthy of a place in your columns.
They make us acquainted with some of the usages
of our ancestors, who lived in the remoter dis-
tricts of England early in the reign of James I.
The title of the volume in which they occur is the
following :
•* The Way to the True Church ; wherein the
principall Motives persuading to Romanisme, and
Questions touching the Nature and Authoritie of the
Church and Scriptures, are familiarly disputed ....
directed to all that seeke for Resolution ; and espe-
cially to all his loving Countrymen of Lancashire, by
John fFhite, Minister of God's Word at Eccles. Folio.
London, 1624.**
This, however, is described as being *' the fifth
impression ;" the Preface is dated Oct. 29, 1608 ;
so that we arrive at the conclusion that the usages
and rhymes, to which I now desire to invite the
attention of your readers, were current in the
north-west districts of England more than two
hundred and fifty years since.
White is insisting upon " the prodigious igno-
rance** which he found among his parishioners
when he entered upon his ministrations, and he
proceeds thus to tell his own tale :
** I will only mention what I saw and learned,
dwelling among them, concerning the saying of their
prayers ; for what man is he whose heart trembles not
to see simple people so far seduced that they know not
how to pronounce or say their daily prayers ; or so
to pray that all that hear them shall be filled with
laughter? And while, superstitiously, they refuse to
pray in their own language with understanding, they
speak that which their leaders may blush to hear.
These examples I have observed from the common
people."
The crseo.
** Creeium 2uum patrum onitentem creatonim ejus
anicum, Dominum nostrum qui sum sops, virgin!
Marise, crixus fixus, Ponchi PUati audubitiers, morti
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NOTES AND QUERIEa
^No. 2J/.
by sonday, father a femes, scelerest un judicanim, finis
a mortibus. Creezum spirituum sanctum, ecU Catholi»
reraissurum, peccaturum, communiorum obllviorum,
bitana et turnam again.**
THE LITTLK CREED.
** Little Creed, can I need,
Kneele before our Ladies knee ;
Candle light, candles burne.
Our Ladie pray*d to her deare Sonne,
That we might all to heaven come.
Little Creed, Amen.*'
** This that followeth they call the * White Pater-
noster : '
** White Pater-noster, Saint Peter's brother.
What hast i* th t*one hand ? white booke leaves.
What hast i* th' t'other hand ? heaven yate keyes.
Open heaven yates, and steike [shut] hell yates :
And let every crysome child creepe to its owne mother.
White Pater-noster, Amen.'
t*
** Another Prayer :
" I blesse me with God and the rood.
With his sweet fiesh and precious blood ;
With his crosse and his creed.
With his length and his breed.
From my toe to my crowne.
And all my body up and downe.
From, my back to my brest,
My five wits be my rest ;
God let never ill come at ill.
But through Jesus owne will.
Sweet Jesus, Lord. Amen.'*
u
Many also use to weare vervein against blasts ; and
when they gather it for this purpose, firste they crosse
the herbe with their hand, and then they blesse it thus :
** Hallowed be thou, Vervein,
As thou growest on the ground.
For in the Mount of Calvary,
There thou wast first found.
Thou healedst our Saviour Jesus Christ,
And staunchedst his bleeding wound ;
In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy
Ghost,
I take thee from the ground.'*
These passages may be seen in the " Preface to
tlie Reader," § 13., no page, but on the reverse of
Sig. A 4.
It might at first appear somewhat strange that
these interesting remnants of early belief should
have escaped the notice of your numerous corre-
spondents, whose attention has for so long a period
been directed to this inquiry : but this may be
accounted for if we remember that the volume in
which they occur is one which would seem, prima
facie, least likely to afford any such materials. It
is one of those uninviting bulky folios of which
the reigns of James and Charles I. furnish us
with so many specimens. Here we might fairly
expect to discover abundant illustrations of pa-
tristic and scholastic theology, of learning and
pedmntiy, of earnest devotion, and ill-temper no
less earnest; but nothing whereby to illustrate
the manners or customs, the traditions, or the
popular usages or superstitions, of the common
people. This may be a hint for us, however, to
direct our attention to a class of literature which
hitherto has scarcely received the attention to
which it would appear to be entitled ; and I would
venture to express my conviction, that if those
who are interested in the illustration of our popu-
lar antiquities were to give a little of their time t9
early English theology, the result would be more
important than might at first be anticipated.
THE BALLAD OF SIB HUGH, ETC.
The fact mentioned by your correspondeBt G.
Clifton Babbt, at p. 357., as to the affinity of
Midland songs and ballads to those of Scotland, I
have often observed, and among the strikuiff m-
stances of it which could be adduced, the f<£ov-
ing may be named, as well known in Northamp-
tonshire :
** It rains, it rains, in merry Scotland ;
It rains both great and small ;
And all the schoolfellows in merry Scotland
Must needs go and play at ball.
'* They tossed the ball so high, so high.
And yet it came down so low;
They tossed it over the old Jew*8 gates.
And broke the old Jew*s window.
*< The old Jew's daughter she came out ;
Was clothed all in green;
' Come hither, come hither, thou young fflr Hngfaf
And fetch your ball again.*
<* ' I dare not come, I dare not come.
Unless my schoolfellows come all;
And I shall be flogged when I get home^
For losing of my ball.*
" She *ticed him with an apple so red.
And likewise with a fig :
She laid him on the dresser board.
And stick^d him like a pig.
** The thickest of blood did first come out*
The second came out so thin ;
The third that came was his dear heart's Uood,.
Where all his life lay in.*'
I write this from memoi^ : it is bat a fragment
of the whole, which I think is printed^ with vari-
ations, in Percy's Rdiques, It is also worthy of
remark, that there is a resemblance also between
the words which occur as provincialisiiis in the
same district, and some of those which are used in
Scotland; e.g. whemble or whommel fsoaMlnNl
not^ aspirated, and pronouneed wemAu)f to tun
upside down, as a dish. This word is Sootidh^ al"
though they do not pronounce the b anj mora
than in Campbell, which sounds verj much 13ra
Camel fiLfirtL
^' Vao. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES:
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iPnUfSTLYARlAH FOLK I^RB : CHBI8TMA8.
' This anniversaiT holds the same rank in the mid-
Stf flouthern, and western states as Thanksgiving
Jjfi^r in the eastern states or New England, where,
Olpnng to the Puritan origin of the bulk of the in-
Mibitants, Christmas is not much celebrated. In
Fennsjlvania many of the usages connected with
HrSre of Grerman origin, and derived from the
epurlj sellers of the Teutonic race, whose de-
WBendants are now a very numerous portion of the
population. The Christmas Tree is thus devised :
jOI is planted in a flower-pot filled with earth, and
itf branches are covered with presents, chiefly of
confectionary, for the younger members of the
fiunily.
Wnen bed-time arrives on Christmas Eve, the
children hang up their stockings at the foot of
their beds, to receive presents brought them by a
fkbulous personage called KrUhkinklej who is be-
lieved to descend the chimney with them for all the
diildren who have been good during the previous
year. The word KrishJtinkle is a corruption of
Christ'kindleiti, literally Christ-infant, and is un-
derstood to be derived from the fact that a repre-
sentation of the Infant Saviour in the manger
formed part of the decorations prepared for the
children at Christmas.
If the children have not been good during the
year previous, instead of finding sugar-plums and
other presents in their stockings on Christmas
morning, they discover therein a birch-rod. This
is said to have been placed there by Pehnichol, or
Nicholas with the fur, alluding to the dress of
skins in which he is said to be clad. Some make
PeUnichol identical with KrishkinMe, but the more
general opinion is that they are two personages, one
lie rewarder of the good, the other the punisher
of the bad.
The functions ascribed to Erishkinkle in Penn-
sylvania are attributed to Saint Nicholas, or
Santa Claus in the State of New York, first
settled by the Hollanders. The following poem,
written by Clement C. Moore, LL.D., of New
York, describes the performances of St. Nicholas
on Christmas Eve, and is equally applicable to
our Erishkinkle :
"A Visit from St. Nieholat.
'TWas the night before Christmas, when all through
the house
Sot a creature was stirring, not even a mouse ;
Tbe stockings were hung by the chimney with care.
In hopes that St. Nicholas soon would be there.
Hie children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of sugar-plums danced in their heads;
And mamma in her kerchief and I in my cap
Had just settled our brains for a long winter's nap,
^IHien out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
I sprang from my bed to sec what was the matter.
Away to the window I flew like a flash,
Tore open the shutters and threw up the sash ;
The moon on tbe breast of tbe new-fallen snow
Gave tbe lustre of day to tbe objects below ;
When what to my wondering eyes should appear
But a miniature sleigh and eight tiny rcindeer>
With a little old driver so IiTely and quick,
I knew in a moment it must be St. Nick.
More rapid thim eagles his coursers they came.
And he whistled and shouted and call'd them by uai
' Now, Dasher I now, Dancer I now, Prancer I now,
Vixen 1
On, Comet ! on, Cupid I on, Dunder and Blixen t
To the top of the stoop *, to the top of the wall I
Now dash away ! dash away ! dash away all !*
As dry leaves before the wild hurricane fly.
When they meet with an obstacle, mount to the akj-^
So up to the house-top the coursers they flew,
With the sleigh full of toys and St Nicholas too^
And then in a twinkling I heard on the roof
The prancing and pawing of each little hoof.
As I drew in my head and was turning around,
Down the chimney St. Nicholas came with a bouodL-
He was dressed all in fur from his head to his foot.
And his clothes were all tarnish 'd with ashes and sool^
A bundle of toys he had flung on his back ;
And he look*d like a pedlar just opening his pack.
His eyes, how they twinkled ! his dimples, how menry.^
His cheeks were like roses, his nose like a cherry ;
His droll little mouth was drawn up like a bow.
And the beard on his chin was as white as the snowr
The stump of a pipe he held tight in his teeth.
And the smoke it encircled his head like a wreath.
He had a broad face and a little round belly,
That shook, when he laugh *d, like a bowl full of Jellyic.
He was chubby and plump, a right jolly old elf.
And I laugh'd when I saw him, in spite of myself.
A wink of his eye and a twist of his head
Soon gave me to know I had nothing to dread.
He spoke not a word, but went straight to his work^
And fill'd all the stockings, then turned with a jerk ;;
And laying his finger aside of his nose.
And giving a nod, up the chimney he rose.
He sprang to his sleigh, to his team gave a whistlcv
And away they all flew like the down of a thistle :
But I heard him exclaim, ere he drove out of sight,.
'Happy Christmas to all, and to all a good night.'**
Philadelphia.
COUNTY KHTMBS.
Kbnt.
" He that will not live long.
Let him dwell at Murston, Tenham, or Toog.'^
« Dover, Sandwich, and Winchelsea,
Rumney and Rye, the five parts be.'*
Cheshirc
** Chester of Castria took the name,
As if that Castria were the same."
* Stoop means, in the language of the New YorkcB%»
a portieo.
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 217.
LiNCOLKSHiRC — Stamford.
** Doctrinfe studium, quod nunc viget ad vada Bourn,
Tempore venturo celebrabitur ad vada Saxi.*'
•* Science that now o'er Oxford sheds her ray,
Shall bless fair Stamford at some future day.**
Wiltshire— jSo/wftwry Cathedral.
<* As many days as in one year there be,
So many windows in this church you see.
As many marble pillars here appear,
As there are hours through the fleeting year.
f As many gates as moons one here does view
Strange tale to tell, yet not more strange than true.**
Chippenham'— On a Stone.
" Hither extendeth Maud Heath's giO,
For where I stand is Chippenham clift."
SuKKKT'— Market Housef Famham,
** You who do like me, give money to end me,
You who dislike me, give as much to mend me."
Woking— ~ Sutton,
** Beastly 'Oking — pretty Sutton,
Filthy foxglove — bachelors button."
••'Oking was— Guildford is— Godalming shall be."
Somersetshire.
••Stanton Drew,
A mile from Pensford — another from Chew,"
Pembrokeshire.
** Once to Rome thy steps incline.
But visit twice St. David^s shrine."
*• When Percelty weareth a hat.
All Pembrokeshire shall weet of that."
Bolt Court.
J. Ebff.
LEGENDS OF THE CO. CLARE : FUENVICOUIL (fINOAl)
AND THE GIANT.
Once upon a time, a Scotti.««h giant who bad
heard of Fuenvicouil's fame, determined to come
and see which of them was the stronger. Now
Fuenvicouil was informed by his thumb of the
g]ant*s intentions, and also that on the present oc-
casion matters would not turn out much to bis
advantage if they fought: so as he did not feel
the least bit '* blue-raowlded for the want of a
batin','* like Neal Malone, he was at a loss what to
do. Oonagb, his wife, saw his distress, and soon
contrived to find out the cause of it ; and having
done 80, she assured bim that if he would leave
things to her mana<;ement, an^l strictly obey her
directions, she would make the giant return home
faster than he came. Fuenvicouil promised obe-
dience ; and, as no time was to be lost, Oonagb
commenced her preparations. She first baked
two or three large cakes of bread, taking care to
put the griddle (the iron plate used in Ireland
and Scotland for baking bread on) into the largest.
She then put several gallons of milk down to boil,
and made whey of it ; and carefully collected the
curd into a mass, which she laid aside. She then
Eroceeded to dress up Fuenvicouil as a baby ; and
aving put a cap on his head, tucked him up in
the cradle, charging him on no account to speak,
but to carefully obey any signs she might make to
him. The preparations were only just completed,
when the giant arrived, and, striding into the
house, demanded to see Fuenvicouil. Oonagh
received him politely ; said she could not tell any
more than the child in the cradle^ where her hus-
band then was; but requested the giant to sit
down and rest, till Fuenvicouil came in. She then
placed bread and whey before him till some better
refreshments could be got ready, taking care to
give him the cake with the griddle in it, and senr-
ing the whey in a vessel that held two or three
gallons. The giant was a little surprised at the
quantity of the lunch set before him, and proceeded
to break a piece off the cake, but in vain ; he then
tried to bite it, with as little success : and as to
swallowing the ocean of whey set biefore him, it
was out of the Question ; so he said he was not
hungry, and would wait. He then asked Oonagh
what was the favourite feat of strength her husband
prided himself upon. She could not indeed par-
ticularise any one, but said that sometimes Fuen-
vicouil amused himself with squeezing water oat
of that stone there, pointing to a rock lying near
the door. The giant immediately took it up ; and
squeezed it till the blood started from his fingers,
but made no impression on the rock. Oonaflh
laughed at his discomfiture, and said a child comd
do that, handing at the same time the lump of
curds to '* the baby." Fuenvicouil, who had oeen
attentively listening to all that was going on, gave
the curd a squeeze, and some drops of whej fell
from it. Oonagh, in apparently great delight,
kissed and hugged her **dear baby ;" and break-
ing a bit ofi^ one of the cakes she had prepared,
began to coax the *• child** to eat a little bit and
get strong. The giant amazed, asked, could that
child eat such hard bread? And Oonagh per-
suaded him to put his finger into the child's moath,
"just to feel his teeth ;** and as soon as Fuenvi-
couil got the giant*s finger in his mouth, he bit it
ofil This was more than the giant could stand ;
and seeing that a child in the cradle was so strongs
he was convinced that the sooner he decftraped
before Fuenvicouil's return the better; so he
hastened from the house, while Oonagh in Tiiit
pressed bim to remain, and never stopped till he
returned to his own place, very happy at having
escaped a meeting witn Fuenvicouil.
Fbancbs Kobebt Datom*
Dae. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
617
FOLK LOBE MISCELLANIES.
Yorkshire Tradition, — The following tradition
of Osmotherlj, in Yorkshire, was related to me as
h&ng current in that county. Can jou inform
jne if it is authentic f
Some years ago there lived in a secluded part
of Yorkshire a lady who had an only son named
Os or Oscar. Strolling out one day with her
child they met a party of gipsies, who were
anxious to tell her the child's fortune. After
"being much importuned she assented to their
request. To the mother's astonishment and grief
they prognosticated that the child would be
idrowned. In order to avert so dreadful a ca-
lamity, the infatuated mother purchased some
land and built a house on the summit of a hi^h
liill, where she lived with her son a long time in
peace and seclusion. Happening one fine sum-
mer's day in the course of a perambulation to have
fiitigued themselves, they sat down on the grass to
rest and soon fell asleep. While enjoying this
xepose, a spring rose up from the ground, which
caused such an inundation as to overwhelm them,
and side by side they found a watery grave.
After this had occurred, the people residing in the
neighbourhood named it Os-by-his-mother-lay,
which has since been corrupted into Osmotherly.
R. W. Cabteb.
Custom on St. Thomcui's Day (Dec. 21). — At
fiarvington, in Worcestershire, it is the custom on
8t. Thomas's Day for persons (chiefly children)
to go round the village begging for apples, and
ADging the following rhymes :
** Wissal, wassail through the town,
If you*ve got any apples, throw them down.
Up with the stocking, and down with the shoe»
\ If you*ve got no apples, money will do.
The jug is white, and the ale is brown,
This is the best house in the town."
CUTHBEBT BeDE, B.A.
Custom on Innocents* Day {Dec. 28). — At
ITorton (near Evesham) it is the custom on Dec.
28 to ring, first a muffled peal for the slaughter
of the Holy Innocents, and then an unmuffled
peal of joy for the deliverance of the Infant Christ.
CUTHBEBT BeDE, B.A.
Marriage Custom at Knutsford^ Cheshire. —
A singular but pleasing custom exists among the
inhabitants of Knutsford in Cheshire. On the
occasion of a wedding, when the bride has set out
for the church, a relative invariably spreads on
the pavement, which is composed of peobles, be-
fore her house, a quantity of silver sand, there
called '' greet," in the form of wreaths of flowers,
and writes, with the same material, wishes for her
happiness. This, of course, is soon discovered by
others^ and immediately, especially if the bride or
bridegroom are favorites, appear before most of
the houses numerous flowers in sand. It is said
that this custom arose from the only church tiiey
had being without bells, and therefore, to giye
notice of a wedding, they adopted it ; and though
now there are other churches and a peal of belu,
they still adhere to the above method of commu-
nicating intelligence of such happy events. Why
sand should be used I have not been able to learn,
and I should be much obliged for anv information
on the point, there being no sandpits m the locality
of Knutsford, or such like reason for its use.
One circumstance I may mention connected
with weddings there. On the return of the party
from church, it is usual to throw money to the
boys, who, of course, follow, and if this is omitted,
the latter keep up a cry of ** a buttermilk wed-
ding." BUSSELL GOLB.
Folk Lore in Hampshire, — In Hampshire the
country people believe that a healing power exists
in the alms collected at the administration of the
sacrament, and many of them use the money as a
charm to cure the diseases of the body. A short
time ago a woman came to a clergyman, and
brought with her half-a-crown, asking at the same
time for five ** sacrament sixpences '* in exchange.
She said that one of her relations was ill, and that
she wished to use the money as a charm to drive
away the disease. This superstition may have
arisen from the once prevalent custom of distri-
buting the alms in the church to those of the poor
who were present at the sacrament.
I have heard that the negroes in Jamaica attach
the same ** gifts of healing " to the consecrated
bread, and often, if they can escape notice, will
carry it away with them. As no account of thb
superstition seems to be recorded in " N. & Q.,"
perhaps you would like to " make a note of it."
F. M. MiDDLBTOK.
Propitiating the Fairies. — Having some years
since, on a Sunday afternoon, had occasion to ride
on horseback between two towns in the eastern
part of Cornwall, I met a christening P^i'ty, also
on horseback, headed by the nurse with a baby in
her arms. Making a nalt as I approached her,
she stopped me, and producing a cake, presented
it to me, and insisted on my taking it. Several
years after, when in the Isle of Man, I had the
opportunity of hearing an elderly person relate
several pieces of folk lore respecting the witches
and fairies in that island. It had been customary,
within his recollection, for a woman, when carrying
a child to be christened, to take with her a piece
of bread and cheese, to give to the first person she
met, for the purpose of saving the child from
witchcraft or the fairies. Another custom was
that of the " Queeltah," or salt put under the
churn to keep off had people. Stale water was
thrown on the plough ** to keep it from the litOe
'-.•u<mi9^n»muJtM
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 217.
^IkM^ A cross was tied in the tail of a cow " to
keep her from had bodies** On May morning it
'was deemed of the greatest importance to avoid
groing to a neighbour's house for fire ; a turf was
itkorrfnrr kept burning all ni^ht at home. Flowers
0^wmg in a hedge, especially green or yellow
^sea, were good to keep off the fairies. And
tiaally, the last cake was left " behind the turf-
^lag for the litUe people.'' J. W. Thomas.
Dewsbury.
Comiih Folk Lore : King Arthur in the Form
tof m Raven, — In Jarvis's translation of Don
^mxote, book u. chap, v., the following passage
4ioeurs:
^* Have you not read, sir,* answered Don Quixote,
^tke annals and histories of England, wherein are re-
.«onled the fitmous exploits of King Arthur, whom in
4»r Castllian tongue we alivays call King Artus; of
-whom there goes an <^d tradition, and a common one
4iU oirer that kingdom of Great Britain, that this king
^id not die. but that by magic art he was turned into
« mwen ; and that, in process of time, he shall reign
Mgtin, and recover his kingdom and sceptre ; for which
Teason it cannot be proved, that, from that time to this,
4ny Englishman has killed a raven ? * **
My reason for transcribing this passage is to
ceeord the curious fact that the legend of Kin^
Arthur's existence in the form of a raven was stiU
cepeated as a piece of folk lore in Cornwall about
MKty years ago. My father, who died about two
^jears since at the age of eighty, spent a few years
•of lus youth in the neighbourhood of Penzance.
Oae day, as he was walkmg along Marazion Green
witk his fowling-piece on his shoulder, he saw a
4it a distance and fired at it. An old man
was near immediately rebuked him, telling
ikst he ought on no account to have shot at a
ravQii, for that King Arthur was still alive in the
tfaraa of that bird. My father was much in-
terested when I drew his attention to the passage
wkieh I have quoted above. Perhaps some of
yoar Cornish or Welsh correspondents may be
^Me to say whether the legend is still known
LOBg the people of Cornwall or Wales.
Ebgab MacColloch.
SL dements Apple Feast in Staffordshire. —
On ihe feast of St. Clement's (Nov. 23) the
<Udlrea go round to the various houses in the
*^" ^ which they belong singing the following
' Clemany ! Clemaity 1 Clemany mine !
A good red apple and a pint of wine,
•Some of your mutton and some of your veal,
If it is good, pray give me a deal ;
If it is not, pray give some salt.
Butler, butler, fill your bowl ;
If thou fillst it of the best.
The Lord 11 send your soul to rest ;
If thou fillst it of the small,
Down goes butler, bowl and all.
Pray, good mistress, send to me
One for Peter, one for Paul, i
One for Him who made us all,
Apple, pear, plum, or cherry.
Any good thing to make us merry ;
A bouncing buck and a vdvet chair,
Clement comes but once a year ;
Off with the pot and on with the pan,
A good red apple and 1*11 begone."
How the above came to be conglomerated I know
not, as there seem to be at least three separate
compositions pressed into St. Clement's service.
I shall be glad to know if any of your contri-
butors can furnish farther illustrations of St
Clement*s apple feast. I believe, in Worcester-
shire, St. Catherine and St. Clement unite in
becoming the patrons on these occasions.
G. £. T. & R. IT.
New Year's Eve and New Yearns Day. —An-
other German custom prevalent in Philadelphia is
the custom of celebrating the departure of the old
year and the arrival or the new by discharges
of fire-arms. As soon as the sun sets the firmg
commences, and it is kept up all night with
every description of musket, iowling-piece, and
pistol. It is called " firing out the old year ** and
** firing in the new year.** Unbda.
Philadelphia.
Carlist Calembourg. — The original of the
French jeu d^esprit in YoL vui., p. 24^^ was a
Carlist calembourg circulated in the salons about
the middle of 1831 :
" La nation n*aime pas Louis-Philippe mab en rit
(ffenri)^
There was another also very popular :
" In travelling to Bordeaux you must go to Orleans."
- V. T. Stbrhbbbg.
Jewish Custom. — In a recently publidied
music-novel of some merit, called Ckarhs Am*
ehester, occurs the following :
" * I shall treat him as my son, because he will indeed
be my music-child, and no more indebted to me than I
am to music, or than we all are to Jehovah.* * SSr^ yoa
are certainly a JeWt if you tay Jehovah ; I was qidte sure
of it before, and I am so pleased.**
There is a great error as to custom here, for the
Jews never attempt to pronounce the ** four-
lettered** Name, and in reading and npraking
always use instead Adonai or Elohim. And even
converted Jews retain for the moat pari the sane
habit. The writer of Charles AueheHer oaa only
defend himself by the example of the writir fls
]tea S4. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEBIE&
619
Iwtuhoe, who hu made the ume OTersiKht ; aod
a still more glaring one besidea in makinE leaac
tbe Jew wUh bis daughter had been called fienoni,
t e. the Am of «orro». Tbe Tonel letters of Je-
hovali are merely those of Adonsi, inserted bj tbe
JCaoBorites ; but this ia another subject.
W. F&Asu.
Tor-Mohun.
Zaehldn Macleans. — This iodiTidual, whose
daim to the authorshig) of Junius has been laCeljr
rerived, was in Philadeluhia ninetj-five years
wo, and his name figures Uiere in the accounts of
the overaeers of the poor, under date of Novem-
ber 9, 1758 :
** Bj caili received of James Coultaaa, Ule sherifi",
being a Gne paid by Laughlane M'Claia for kisiing
of Osboin's wife (after hia commisiians aod vriiing
bond were dedocted) - - - £24:5:0"
This was in Pennsjlvania currency ; but it was an
•(pensive kiss even in that, bein^ (besides the
CommiBsiont and sherifF's charge for writing the
bond) equivalent to sixty-four dollars and fifty
Mntfl of our present currency. M. E.
- FhiladelphU.
.German Tree. — Tbe following extract con-
cerning thia accessory to Christmas, which is now
■o popular, may jierhapa be interesting at the pre-
■ent season. It is taken from the Loseley Maau-
teripts, edited by A. J. Kempe, P.S.A., 1836,
p. 75. note.
* " We remember a German of Ihe household of the
late Queen Caroline, making what he termed a CAriil-
nuu tree for a juvenile party at that festive season.
Tbe tree waa a branch of some evergreen fastened on a
board. Its boughs bent under the weight of gilt
orangea, almonds, &c i and under it was a neal model
of a farm-house, surrounded by figures of animals, &c.,
sridently a remain of the pageants constructed at that
Is this the first notice of a German tree in Eng-
laoidF The adjunct of the farm-house seems now
to be diapeiued with in this couDlry. Zzus.
The late X>uA£.— The following curious coinci-
dence, which lately appeared in the Meatk Herald,
deservea transplanting to the Uterary museum of
"N. ScQ.":
" From (lie &ct of the Moinington (araWi baving
bren BO connected by property, &c. with tbe panah of
Trim, in which town the late Duke spent so many of
bii early days, and commenced hia career in lila by
being elected, when scarcely twenty-one years of age,
to represent the old borough of Trim, tbe fallowing
onincidence is worth relating. On the news of tbe death
of the Duke lewihing Trim, the Very Rev. Dean Butler
(xuised tbe shime of balla to be rung in reapect to hii
memory ; and die large bell, which was eonsidend one
of the finest and sweetest in Ireland, hardly bad toll^
a Mcond time for tbe occasion when it auddenly brake,
became mule, and ceased to send forth its notes.
Whether this was to be attributed to neglect of the
ringer, or regret fur the great man of the age, it is hard
to say ; but, lery odd as it may appear to be. on cl.
amining the bell, it was found to be cast by Edmund
Blood, 176.4, the very year the Duke was born. Thua
this fine bull commenced iU career with the birth of
the Duke, and ceased to sound at hia death. The
parish of Trim is now getting the bell recast, and the
old inetBl ia to be seen at Mr. UodgetL Abbey Street,
Dublin."
J. Vsownx.
* AHD OBiarunDS.
" The CaispiN trade I What belter trade can be ?
Ancient and famous, independent, free 1
No other trade a brighter claim can find ;
No other trade display more share of mind I
No other calling prouder names can Iwast, —
In arms, in arta, — themselves a perfect host!
All honour, seal, and patriotic pride ;
To dare beroic, and in suBeriog tried I
But first and chief — and as such claims inspire —
Our Patron Brothers, who doth not admire?
CaisPiH and CalsriaHua i they who sought
Safety with us, and at the calling wrought :
Martyrs to Truth, who in old time4 were cast
Lorn outcasts forth to labour at ibe iitti
Mould the stout sole, sew with the woven thread.
Make the good Jit, and win their daily bread.
This was their strait and doing — this their doom;
They sought our ahclUr, and they found a home I
Helpless and hapless, wandering 10 and fro.
Weary they came and hid them Irom the foe;
Two high-horn youths, to hoty things impell'd.
Hunted from place to place, (hough still they held
Th«[ sacred faith, and died for it, and threw
The glory of tbat death on all who made Ihe Skoe I
" Such is the atory — ao behaved our trade ;
And then the Church Its zealous homage paid.
And made their death-day holy, as we see
Still in Ihe Calendar, and atill to bel
And long the Shoemaker has felt tlte claim.
And proved him joyliil at such lofty bme ;
For theirs it was by more than blood allied.
Alike they worshlpp'd, and alike they died I
Nor minded how the Pagan nlpp'd their youth —
They are not dead who anSer for the Truth I
The akies receive them, and the earth's warm heart
In grateful duty ever plays its part,
Kmbalms their memory to all ftiture time.
And thns, in love, still punishes Ihe crime ;
Sees, though ihe corae be trampled to tbe dust.
Tbe mutder'd dead bate retribution just 1
620
NOTES AND QUERIESL
[No. 217.
** Wliere are they now who wrought this fiendish
wrong ?
We hate the actors, and have hated long.
And where are they, the victims ? Always here ;
We feel their glory, and we hold it dear !
Oh yes, 'tis ours ! that glory still is ours.
And, lo ! how breaks it on these festive hours ;
Each heart is warm, each eye lit up with pride»
'Tis sanction*d in our loves and sanctified !
Far o'er the earth — the Christianised — where'er
The Saviour's name is hymn'd in daily prayer.
The winds of heaven their memories tender waft,
Commix'd with all the sorceries of tlie crafU
The little leather artizan — the boy
To whom the shoe is yet but as a toy,
A thing to smile and look at, ere the day
Severer task will make it one of pay
(A constant duty and a livelihood),—
He, the young Crispin, emulous and good.
Is told of the Prince Martyrs — sometimes Royal I
(The trade, in its devotion, being so loyal.
It fain would stretch the fact or trifle still.
Eager, as 'twere, to get on highest hill.)
Through the fair France, through Germany, and
Spain,
The blue-skied Italy, the Russias twain.
And farther still, across the Western Mainu
There is the story known, engraft, 'tis true.
With things, as often is, of weight undue ;
Yet still 's enough, when sifted to the most.
To make the trade rejoice, and as a toast.
Now, as is wont, and ever to be given.
Hail to the memory of our friends in heaven I
Crispin and Crisfianus — they, the two.
Who, like ourselves, have made the Boot and Shoe!"
The story as told in these verses is not exactly
the same as the one current among the makers of
the boot and shoe in our own island, an account
in an old book called The History of the Gentle
Craft (the production, no doubt, of the well-
known Thomas Delony) being the basis of the
tradition as received now by the British shoe-
maker. In the Golden Legende^ one of the earliest
of our printed books, and in Alban Butler*s Lives
of the ScUntSy as compiled from the Roman Martyr-
oloffies, as also in the inscriptions of some pieces of
ancient tapestry formerly belonging to the shoe-
makers* chapel in the Cathedral of Notre Dame,
Paris, but, when I saw them, in one of the gal-
leries bf the Louvre, is the like version as the one
here given. The authority, too, of the Church
Calendar of England, even as it still remains after
the loppings of the Reformation, is another corro-
boration that Crispin and Cbispianus, brothers,
were early martyrs to the Christian faith, and
through that chiefly honoured, and not because
the one became a redoubted general and the other
a successful suitor to the daughter of some all-
potent emperor. In the Delony version — itself,
m every probability, a borrowing from the popu-
lar mind of the Elizabethan period, — these things
are put forth ; while in trade puntings and songs
the Prince Crispin is assumed to have a wife or
sister, one can hardly tell which, in the person of
a princess, the Princess Crispiamvs, and who
figures as the patron of the women's branch of
the shoemakers* art; Crispin himself presidii^
over the coarser labour for the rougher sex. This
artifice, if not purely historical, is at least very
excusable, because so natural, seeing that the
duplex principle has such an extensive range;
that even the feet themselves come into the world
in pairs, and so shoes must be produced after the
same fashion — paired, as the shoemakers hare
done by their adored Crispin and Crisfianus.
It has now but to be stated that the writer of
the foregoing lines (a long time now the common
property of his fellow- workmen) and this present
paragraph, has for many years contemplated the
production of something which might assume even
the size of a book, in connexion with the various
curious particulars which may be affiliated with
this Crispin story, and therefore would be glad to
find some of the numerous erudite readers of **N.
& Q ** helping his inquiries either through the me-
dium of future Numbers, or as might be addressed
privately to himself, care of Mr. Clements^ Ixx^-
seller, 22. Little Pulteney Street, Regent Street.
J. Davies Dsyi<iic»
fflinov ^utviei*
Barrels Regiment, — I suppose that to this
regiment a song refers which has for its burden,—
" And ten times a day whip the barrels.
And ten tiipes a day whip the barrels.
Brave boys.",
I shall be very much obliged to any one who will
tell me where I can find this song, or the circum-
stances or persons to which it refers. It was pro*
bably written about the year 1747. E. H.
Okey the Regicide, — I should be much obliged
for any information relative to the descendants
of Colonel John Okey, the regicide, executed
AprU 19, 1662, O. S. E. P. jEL
Clapham*
Lady Mason*s Third Husband, — Secretary
Davison, in a letter dated London, 23rd Decem-
ber, 1581, and addressed to Lady Mason, re-
quests this lady "to join with his honour her
husband** in standing sponsor with Sir Christopher
Hatton, or Sir Thomas Skirley, to his son, horn
a few days before. Sir John Mason, second
husband to Lady Mason, died in 1566. Who
then was " this honour,** her third P G. S. S.
Creation of Knights, — When were the f<^ow-
ing knights made? — Sir WiUiam Fleming, Sir
George barker, Sir George Hamilton, Sir Edward
Sec. 24. 18S3.]
NOTES AND QCEBIEa
611
de Cuteret, Sir Willi&m Armourer : — the first
ir Charlea I. ; the funr folloiriDs by Charles It.
G. S. S.
Martgn the Regicide. — Wu Martyn the regi-
wde married or not ? If married, is it known
whether be biid children ? and if any of his chil-
dren settled in Ireland, and became possessed of
|VDperty in thtkt country P E. A. G.
Sittory of the Nor^urors. — What are the best
anthorities for the history of the Nonjurors and
their sufferings ? Of course, Lathbury, Hickes's
Zi/e of Kemeicett, be. are well known. Whence
«sme their adopted motto ; " Cietera quis nescit ? "
Anj reader who would communicate a.xij inform-
ation on these points to C. B. would confer a
&Tonr. C. E.
Florin and ihe Royal Armi. — What is the an-
tlioritj for placing the national arms (which are
by royal procUmations ordered to be borne
quarterly in ratification of the respective nnioQS,
Mid to be borne under one imperial crown) in
aeparate shielda? They surely cannot with any
heraldic propriety be so arranged. The absurdity
was remarked in the reign of the Georges, for by
tiie separation of the coats the arms of the German
dominions of George I. obtained the second place,
viz. the dexter side, with France on the sinister,
and Ireland at the bottom or fourth place.
Mat o' the Mist.
A Mistletoe Query. — Why has mistletoe the
priTilepe of allowing the fair sex to be kissed
under ixa branches, on condition that a berry is
plucked off at the time ? And also, when was this
first allowed f • J. W. Astoh (late of Trin. Col.)
Miliar iQMtxlti Inftb HwSotti.
SeweU Family (Vol.viii., p. 521.). — Tour cor-
respondent D. N. states, that "nothing farther is
known of the family of Lieut.-Col. Sewell, who
died in 1803, than that be had a son Thos. Bailey
referred to Lodge's Peerage, he would have found
that the Honorable Harriet Bereaford, fourth
daughter of the Most Rev. Wm. Beresford, Lord
Archbishop of Tuara, and first Baron Decies,
married Jan. 25, 1796, Thos. Henry Bermingham
(not Bailej?) Daly Sewell, Esq. ; and died June II,
1B34, having had three children, viz. :
1. Thomas, formerly Page of Honour to the
LordLieutenant of Ireland, circa 1829, atlerwards
a penwoner of Trin. Coll. Dublin, and subse-
anently Lieutenant 13th Light Infantry; who
led at Landour, Bengal, Aug. 1, 1836.
2. Isabella, who married her cousin Major Mar-
cus Beresford, in October, 1828 ; and died in 1838.
3. Louisa, married to the Hon. SirW.E.Leeson,
and died in 1849 or 1850.
Will D. N. favour me with the dates of tha
birth and death of the late unfortunate, and, aa I
believe, ill-used Lieut. -Greneral John Whitelocke^
whom he mentions, with the localities where the
birth and death occurred ? G. L. S.
[We h»«e mbmitted our correspondenl's eommuai-
cHtian lo D. N,, wbo hu kiniil; forwarded tbe follow-
iog teplj !
" My communicatLon (Vol, vlll, p. 521.) I was aware
wa> far liom a perfect pedigree of Ihe Sewell family,
■ad my object was to gife sucli notices as might form
tently informed. Your correspODdent G. L. 8. bai
very well supplied the eaiera daual, where my inform-
ation termioated with the appointment of Comet
Sewell to a Lieutenancy In the 4tb (Royal IrUh)
Dragoon Guards. In the I<oDdon Gazette 13789,
June 23, IT95, be ii inserted as 'Mr. Bermlngliam
Daly Henry Sewell' to be a comet in the 32nd Liglit
Dragoons; and ns in filling up commisuons much ac-
curacy is aWays considered very essential, lam difc
posed to regard those Chiiitian names as correct
" There was a Rev. George Sewell, Rector of By-
fleet, Surrey. Was he a brother of Lieut.-Col. Sewell
of the Surrey Light Dragoons?
>' Did the Right Hon. Sir Thomas Sewell marry a
second wife 7 For 1 find, in Tit Globe of October 9,
1820 : ' Died, Saturday, Sejit. 16, at Twyford Lodge,
Maresfield, Sussei, in her seTenty-eighlli year, Lady
Sewell, widow of the late Right Hon. Sir Thomaa
Sewell, Master of the Rolls and Piiiy Councillor,
&c.' Now, in Manning's Sum>/, toI. iii. p. £01., it is
stated that LieuU-Col. Sewell died in IB03, in his
lifiy-nghth year, which would render it impossible for
him to be the son of tbe above-named Lady SewelL
In Horslield's Shhm, 4ta., 1835, vol. i. p. 375., I find
a William Luther Sewell, Esq., who most probably
was connected by (ho second marriage, residing at the
above Twyford Lodge.
" I regret that I cannot reply distinctly to the in-
quitie* ^ G. L. S. respecting the late Lieut. -General
Whitelocke. I have inefleclually seoiched all tha
various biographical dictionaries to that oF the Rev.
H. J. Rose in twelve volumes, 18^8, inclusive, without
having found one that has taken the least notice of him.
I had casually heard, some years since, that he had
flied bis residence in Somersetshire, and that he bad
died there j which 1 find confirmed by a paragraph in
the AntHial Rrgiittr, vol. Uivi. for 1834 (CAronWt^
p. 218., which states that he died 'near Bath,' in
February, 1834. With such scanty information on tbe
required points, I would still refi>r G. L. S. to a work
entitled The Georgian Mra, in 4 vok, London, 1832 ;
where ha will find, in vol. iL p. 475., a short miVftory
memoir of Lieut.- General Whitelocke, which is dis-
passionately and candidly written, and which account*
very reasonably for the inauspicious result of his mili-
tary operations. There is one slight error in tbe
account of !%< Groiyiim Mra, viz. in the date of
622
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 217.
fint appointment of Mr. Whttelocke to a commission
In the army, which appears in the London Gazette,
No. 11938. of December 26, 1778, and runs thus:
<14th Foot, John Whitelocke, Gent., to be Ensign
ifiee Day." — I trust some reader of ** N. & Q.** will
fiimish us with the dates of the birth and death of
]Ueut.- General Whitelocke, specifying when they took
place, as desired by G. L. S., with an abridgment of
deficient particulars in his history. D. N."]
Cfreek Epi^am, — In the Bath Chronicle o£
the 10th of November last, I find the following
advertisement :
** The Clergyman of a Town Parish, in which are
a«T«ral crippled persons, at present unable to attend
divine worship, will feel very grateful to any gentle-
man or lady who will give him an old Bath chair for
the use of these poor people ; two blind men having
offered, in this ease, cbariubly to convey their erippled
neighbours regularly to the House of God.**
Surely this arrangement is not a new idea, and
there is, if I mistake not, a Greek epigram that
records its success in practice several hundred
years ago. Can any of your readers, whose Greek
18 less faded than mine, refer me to the epigram ?
Geo. E. Fbere.
[Probably the following epigram is the one floating
in the faded memory of our correspondent :
« ♦lAinnoT, 01 Zl uiAnpoT.
Hrjpbs 6 fUy yviois, 6 8* &/>* Sfxfituriir i.fKf>6iT€poi 91
Eif a6rohs rh r^x^s iyZtls iipdviaav,
Tv<p\hf yhp ?uw6yuiov ^irw/i^oi^ fidpos vKpvv,'
Tflus Ktipov ipMVous &Tpairby &pOofiarci,
Tldyra Bh ravr* ^SISo^c wucp^ wdirroXfios iuniyteri,
'AAA^Xots iitpivai ro^AXiir^s cis lAcoy.**
Anthftlogi<it in ustim ScholtB Wesimonati, :
Oxon. 1724, p. 58.]
TransloHons from JEschylus, — Whose trans-
lation of the tragedies of ^schylus is that which
accompanies Flaxman*s compositions from the
same ? I ought to state that there is merely a
line or two under each plate, to explain the sub-
ject of each composition, and that my copy is the
unreduced size. H.
Kingston-on- Tliamcs.
[The lines are taken from N. Potter*s translation of
the Tragedies of iEschylus, 4ta, 1777.]
Prince MemnovLS Sister. — Who was Prince
]M[emnon's sister, alluded to by Milton in II Peti'
teroso f J. W. T.
Dewsbury.
[Dunster has the following note on this line : —
'< Prince Memnon*s sister ; that is, an Ethiopian
princess, or sable beauty. Memnon, king of Ethio-
pia, being an auxiliary of the Trojans, was slain by
Achilles. (See Virg. JEn, i. 489., * Nigri Memnonis
arma.*) It does not, however, appear that Memnon
had any sister. Tithonus, according to Hesiod, had
by Aurora only two sons, Memnon and Emathion,
Theog, 984. This lady is a creation of the poet.**]
'' Oh! for a Ma«C j*c. — Who was the author
of the couplet —
<* Oh I for a blast of that dread horn,
On Fontarabian echoes borne ? **.
A. J. DuNKnTi
[The lines .—
** O for the voice of that wild horn.
On Fontarabia*8 echoes borne*
The dying hero's eall,**-^
are by Sir Walter Scott, and form part of those whieb
excited the horror of the father of Frank Osbaldiaton,
when he examined his waste-book in searoh of RtpeirtM
OMiuKurd and inward — Corn Debentures, &c See Btib
Roy, chap. ii. p. 24. ed. 1829.]
Robin HoocTs Festival, — Can an j of your cor-
respondents refer me to a good account of the
festival of Robin Hood, which was so popular witii
our ancestors, that Bishop Latimer could get no
one to come to hear him preach on that day f
In the churchwardens accounts of St. Helens,
Abingdon, published in the first volume of the
Archaohgia, there is an entry in 1566 of the sum
of ISd. paid for " setting up Robin Hood*8 Bower."
R. W. B.
[The best account of Robin Hood's festival on the
first and succeeding days of May is given in Robin
Hood: a Collection ofaU the Ancient Poenm, Songt, and
Ballads, reloHoe to that celebrated Outlaw ; [by Joseph
Ritson], among the notes and illustrations in vol. i.
pp. xcvii — ex. Consult also A LyhU Gette of Robin
Hode, by John Mathew Gutch, vol. i. pp. 60 — 64. ; and
George Sonne's "New Curiosities of Literature, vol. i.
pp. 231—236.]
Church in Suffolk, — In restoring a church in
Suffolk, apparently of the date of Henry VII.,
except two Norman doors, the walls were fbund
full of Norman mouldings of about 1100, or not
much after. Will you kmdlj give me a list of the
works where I may be likely to find an account of
this original church ? Davy and Jermyn*8 SuffMy
in the British Museum, says nothing about it.
The two Norman doors are universally admired,
and the church is now Norman still throughout.
In the reconstruction of about 1100, the two doors
do not seem to have been in any way restored or
meddled with. 6. L,
[Our correspondent may probably find tome account
of this church either in Suckling's Antiqmiies of SMptlk^
4to., 2 vols., Gage's History of Suffolk (Thingoe Hun-
dred), 4to., or in H. Jermyn's Collections for a General'
History of Suffolk, in the British Museum, Add. MS&
8168—8196.]
i>BC. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUEKIES.
CHILDBBN GALLBD ~IBIP8.
(Vol. viii., p. 443.)
'* Heere resteth the bodye of the noble Impe, Robert
(rf Duddeley, Baron of Denbigh, sonne of Robert, Earle
of Leicester, nepheir and heire unto Ambrose, Earle of
Warwiek, brethren, both sonnes of the mighty Prince
John, ]ate Duke of Northumberland, that was cosin
md heire to Sir John Grey, Vicount L'Isle, nephew
and heire unto the Lady Margaret, Countesse of
Shrewsbury, the eldest daughter and coheire of the
noble Earle of Warr : Sir Richard Beauchampe here
interred ; a childe of great parentage, but of farr
greater hope and toward nesse, taken from this transi-
tory unto ererlasting life in his tender age, at Wan«
•tead in Essex, on Sunday, 1 9th of July, in the yeare of
our Lord God 1 584, being the 26th yeare of the happy
Ifaine of the most virtuous and godly Princesse, Queene
Elizabeth, and in this place layd up among his noble
auncestors, in assured hope of the general! resurrection."
•— Lady's Chapelt St, Mary's Church, Warwick,
H.B.
Warwick,
An inscription on a tomb at Besford, near Fcr-
flhore, Worcestershire, of the same period as that
at Aylesbury (mentioned by Mr. Brooks), con-
tiuns also the word imp. The tomb at Besford is
a most singular one, consisting of two large folding
doors fixed against the wall, their panels and the
interior being painted over with figures and in-
scriptions. From the latter, which are of some
length, the following extracts will be sufficient to
illustrate the subject :
" An impe entombed heere doth lie."
** . . . elder . . . from Christ to straie,
When such an impe foreshewes the waie."
The old poetical word sugar ed, " Noe sugred
word," occurs in the inscription.
The " impe " is supposed to be Richard Hare-
well, who died in 1576, aged 15 years, to whom
a second monument, of alabaster (close by the
former), was also erected ; a rare circumstance, I
thonld suppose. The Harewells appear to have
been a family at the time of the Conquest ; the
two following lines are a part of one of the in-
scriptions :
" Of Hareweirs blodde ere Conquest made,
« Knowne to descende of gentle race."
Kasb, in his History of Worcestershire^ makes
mention of this singular monument, but is any-
thing but correct in giving its inscriptions.
CUTHBERT BeDE, B.A.
T. W. D. Brooks will find this word used by
some modern authors to denote a child. In
Moral and Sacred Poetry^ selected and arranged
by the Rev. T. Willcocks and the Rev. T. Horton
CDevonport, W. Byers, 1834), there is at p. 254.
a piece by Baillie, addressed " To a Child,**
first line of which rans thus :
" Whoae imp art thou, with dimpled cheek ?***
And in a poem by Rogers, on the following
the children of a gipsy are called imps,
J. W. N.
Plymouth.
THE DIVINIKG RODW
(Vol. viii., pp. 293. 479.>
The inclosed extract from a letter which I htn^
just received from a friend on the subject ef the
divining rod, will probably interest your
as an answer to a Query which appeared
weeks ago [in your excellent work. You
entirely rely on the accuracy of the facts staled*
J.A.H.
" However the pretended effect of the divining:
rod may be attributed to knavery and credii&y
by philosophers who will not take the tronl^ or
witnessing and investigating the operation, any
one who will pay a visit to the Mendip Hills ]»
Somersetshire, and the country round their base^
may have abundant proof of the eflScacy of it. Its^
success has been very strikingly proved alon^ the
ran^e of the Pennard Hills also, to the south fst
the Mendip. The faculty of discovering water by
means of the divining rod is not possessed by
every one ; for indeed there are but few who
possess it in any considerable degree, or in whose
hands the motion of the rod, when passing mer
an under^ound stream, is very decided; and
they who have it are quite unconscious of their
capability until they are made aware of H bgp-
experiment.
^* I saw the operation of the rod, or rather of m
fork, formed of the shoots of the last year, held hfr
the hands of the experimenter by the extreokhicSy,
with the angle projecting before him. When -he
came over the spot beneath which the water
flowed, the rod, which had before been perfeeily
still, writhed about with considerable force^ so
that the holder could not keep it in its foroMr
position ; and he appealed to the bystanders to
notice that he had made no motion to prodnoe
this effect, and used everv effort to preyeni it.
The operation was several times repeated with
the same result, and each time under the
inspection of shrewd and doubting, if not
dufous, observers. Forks of any kind oi
wood served equally well, but those of dead wood
had no effect. The experimentor had discovcroA
water, in several instances, in the same pariib
(Pennard), but was perfectly unaware of hia #•»
pability till he was requested by his landlcnrd ta
try. The operator had the reputation of a
fectly honest man, whose word might be
NOTES AND QUBBIBS. [No. 217.
Dec. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
625
Athenaeus, sajs Potter in his Archaologia GrcBca^
proves that the head was esteemed holj, because
it was customary to swear by it, and adore as holy
tlie sneezes that proceeded from it. And Ari-
stotle tells us in express terms that sneezing was
accounted a deity : " Thv nrappihv ^f6v rryoT^fieecu* —
Archaol. Orac. (5th ed.), p. 338.
** Oscitatio in nixu letalis est, sicut
Sternuisse a coitu abortiyum."
Quoted from Pliny by Aulus Gellius,
Noct, Att, III. xvi. 24.
Erasmus, in his Colloquies^ bids one say to him
who sneezes, " Sit faustum ac felix,*''or " Servet
te Deus," or " Sit salutiferum," or " Bene vertat
Deus."
^ Quare homines sternutant ?
** Respondetur, ut virtus expulsiva et vislva, per hoc
purgetur, et cerebrum a sua superfluitate purgetur, etc.
£tiam qui sternutat frequenter, dicitur habere forte
cerebrum." — Aristotelis Problemata: Amstelodami, anno
1690.
Query whether from some such idea of the
beneficial effect of sneezing, arose the practice of
calling for the divine blessmg on the sneezer ?
When Themistocles was offering sacrifice, it
happened that three beautiful captives were
brought him, and at the same time the fire burnt
clear and bright, and a sneeze happened on the
right hand. Plereupon Euphrantides the sooth-
sayer, embracing him, predicted the memorable
victory which was afterwards obtained by him, &c.
There is also mention of this custom (the ob-
servation of sneezing) in Homer, who has intro-
duced Penelope rejoicing at a sneeze of her son
Telemachus :
" O&x Spdas 8 /jLot vths iviirrapfv"
Sneezing was not always a lucky omen, but
varied according to the alteration of circum-
stances— ^^ T&v irrapfJLooy ol fihu tl(rlv w<f>€\iixoi, oi 5^
/8A.a§€/oo/," "Some sneezes are profitable, others
prejudicial" — according to the scholiast upon the
following passage of Theocritus, wherein he makes
the sneezing of the Cupids to have been an un-
fortunate omen to a certain lover :
it
2</iiX^5a /iiv tpwrts iir4irraf>oy,^
If any person sneezed between midnight and
the following noontide it was fortunate, but from
noontide till midnight it was unfortunate.
If a man sneezed at the table while they were
taking away, or if another happened to sneeze
upon his left hand, it was unlucky; if on the right
hand, fortunate.
If, in the undertaking any business, two or four
sneezes happened, it was a lucky omen, and gave
encouragement to proceed ; if more than four, the
omen was neither good nor bad ; if one or three,
it was unlucky, and dehorted them from proceed-
ing in what they had designed. If two men were
deliberating about any business, and both of them
chanced to sneeze together, it was a prosperous
omen. — ArchaoL Grac. (5th ed.), pp. 339, 340.
Francis Johk Scott.
Tewkesbury.
The custom your correspondent Medicus al-
ludes to, of wishing a person "good health," after
sneezing, is also very common in Russia. The
phrases the Russians use on these occasions are —
" To your good health I " or " How do you do P"
«!• S. A*
Old Broad Street.
BOOKS BURNED BY THE COMMON HANGMAN.
(Vol. viii., pp. 272. 346.)
To the list of these literary auto da /^s we may
well add the burning of Bishop Bumet*s famous
Pastoral Letter, which was censured by the House
of Commons, January, 1692, and was burned by
the common hangman. The offence contained in
it was the ascribing the title of William III. to
the crown of England to a right of conquest. A
recollection of this gives additional point to the
irony of Atterbury in attacking Wake :
** William the Conqueror is another of the pious
patterns he recommends, * who would suffer nothing,*
he says, < to be determined in any ecclesiastical causes
without leave and authority first had from him.* ....
His present majesty is not William the Conqueror;
and can no more by our constitution rule absolutely
either in Church or State than he would if he could :
his will and pleasure is indeed a law to all his sub-
jects ; not in a conquering sense, but because his will
and pleasure is only that the laws of our country
should be obeyed, which he came over on purpose to
rescue, and counts it his great prerogative to maintain ;
and contemns therefore, I doubt not, such sordid
flattery as would measure the extent of his supremacy
from the Conqueror's claim.'* — Atterbury 's Rights,
Powers, and Privileges of Convocation, pp. 1 58 — 1 60.
Atterbury never misses a hit at Burnet when
he can conveniently administer one, and the
Bishop endeavours to smile even while he winces :
** He writes with just and due respect of the king
and the present constitution. Tliis has come so seldom,
from that corner that it ought to be the more con«
sidered. I will not give that scope to jealousy as to
suspect that this was an artifice ; but accept it sin«
cerely,*' &c The Bishop of Sarum's Reflections on
tlie Rights, Powers, §•€., p. 4.
W. Fbaseb.
Tor-Mohun.
The following may come under the list wanted
by Balliolensis :
<*The covenant itself^ together with the act for
erecting the high court of justice, that for subscribing
the engagement, and that for declaring England a
NOTES AND QUERIEa [No. Sir.
DfeC. 24. 1853«]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
ear
Bradford:
" Who liyes here? who do you think?
' Mi^r Lister : give him a drink.
Give him a drink — for why ?
Because, when he's sweeping,
He's always dry."
** John Thompson doth live here.
He sweeps your chimney not too dear.
And if your chimney should get on fire,
He puts it out at your desire.
Sweep that chimney clean.
And then come down and drink.** .
Tlie public-houses to which the above are ap-
pended are kept by sweeps.
** Call here, my boy, if you are dry.
The fault's in you, and not in I.
If Robin Hood from home is gone.
Step in and drink with Little John."
The name of the public-house is *^ The Robin
Hood."
Over another tavern door I noticed the fol-
lowing very pithy and brief sentence :
" Tobacco given away to-morrow.*'
Charles WiUiisoN.
Bradford, Yorkshire.
A sign at Newhouse, a small public-house on
Dartmoor, hard by a rabbit-warren, on the road-
side leading from Moreton to Tavistock, six miles
from the former town. John Roberts was the
worthy landlord some considerable time since. It
ran thus :
** John Roberts lives here.
Sells brandy and beer.
Your spirits to cheer ;
And should you want meat.
To make up the treat.
There be rabbits to eat**
(A verbatim copy.)
A swinging sign on the front of a public-house
on the borders of Dartmoor could once boast of
the following quaint invitations.
• The side presented to view, prior to entering
the wild waste, underneath a rude painting of a
weary traveller in a storm, had the following rude
Oouplet :
<« Before the wild moor you venture to pass.
Pray step within and take a glass.'*
The attempt at poetry on the reverse side, be-
low a highly-coloured daub representing a Christ-
mas fire on the hearth, surrounded by a goodly
hand of jolly fellows, read thus :
*^ Now that the bleak moor you've safely got over.
Do stop a while, your spirits to recover."
Over the door of a spirit and beer shop at the
lower end of Market or High Street, Plymouth,
maj be seen the following very salutary and ^Be»
interested piece of advice. It is printed in the
triangle formed by the spread of a gigantic pair of
compasses, which gives name to the house :
** Keep within compass.
And then you'U be sure,
To avoid many troubles.
That others endure.**
The house is located near the quay ; and it iii
devoutly to be wished that the jolly tars of the
neighbourhood, who make it a constant place of
resort, would profit by its wise counseL H. H. H.
There is (or was some two or three years since)
at Coopersale, in Essex, a sign-board in front of
the " Queen Victoria" (only a beer-house by the
way), with these lines :
" The Queen some day.
May pass this way.
And see our Tom and Jerry ;
Perhaps she*ll stop,
And stand a drop.
To make her subjects merry.*'
On the other side are some different lines, which
I forget. Alexander Andrews*
1. At Overseal, Leicestershire :
" Robin Hood is
D^id and gone :
Pray call, and drink
With Little John."
2. The sign of " The Bee Hive," in Birmingham
and other places :
** Within this Hive, we're all alive,
Good liquor makes us funny :
If you are dry, step in and try.
The flavour of our honey."
3. The sign of" The Gate" (of frequent occur-
rence) :
** The Gate hangs well.
And hinders none ;
Refresh and pay.
And travel on."
T. H. Kebslet, B.A.
Audlem, Nantwich.
In King Street, Norwich, at the sign of "The
Waterman," kept by a man who is a barber, and'
over whose door is the pole, are these lines :
^ Roam not from pole to pole.
But step in here ;
Where nought exceeds the shaving,
But the beer."
J • L* S«
There used to be at a small roadside inn, be-
tween Wetherby and Borobridge (Yorkshire), at
a place called Ninivy, the following inscriptioii ;
ess NOTES AND QUERIES. [No. 217.
whether or not it u lUIl in existeoce I cannot At Durbam the curfeir b rung (on the Ermt
saj; bell of the cathedral) at nine o'clock. It ia
« At NineTch, where dwelt Old Toby. tUerefora of the same use to the studenta of the
Pray ttop and drint before you go by." University of Durham aa " Tom la to the atu-
Q T n dents of the University of Oxford, vie. it marks
^^^___^ ' ' ' the closing of the college galea.
CCTHBEBT BeDK, B.A.
rHOTOOBAPHic corrbbfoudbhcb.
Me a eopy of
remarkable only ii
<Vol. ii., pp. 103. 175. 189. 311. ; Vol. iv.. p. 240-!
Vol. vi., pp. S3. 112. ; Vol. vii., pp. 167. 530.;
VoLviil., p. 603.) P/iotogTapkie Easrraving. — l inelon a eopy of a tittle
The curfew ia still rung at Kidderminster at ^^\f'"J^''.\r^^''"'- "*'''"'';' ^T'^^J^V"
MirU fiVlfiflr Tt ;< tl,o iinn,i»l riwlnm thprP on ■ 'l""! *n»t the illustration, are produced by photography,
■o^toclpck. It IS tl.e annual custom mere, on ft The general theory of the method is thi.: a pimia of
certain night, to continue the ringing for one hour, i^";, ^^,^^ ^f,;, , ^^;f„^ ,,^.„ ^^^^ ^f ^^,
ft inni of raoner_ having been left for that purpose .ui^^nce. so as lo be opaque or semi-opaque (the sub-
as a thank-offering to God, for the curfew having ^„^ ,i,o«Id be light coloured), and a daign ii etohwi
beentberaeansofBavingapersonfromdestruction. „„ itwlth * needle. From this ri^m positive pio-
This person bad lost hia way on his return from turcs are printed photographically,
Bridgenorth F»r, and when (as he afterwards A) to deuila, the printsof the mioe (p.4G.) and tha
discovered) on the point of falling from a great cat (p. 37.) are from a glau coated with iodised eollo-
height, the sound of the Kidderminster curfew dian rendered semitine, exposed to Aint light fiw ft
caused him to retrace his steps and regain the iboTt time and developed. Ia tlilt method, tba gloss
road. A five o'clock morning bell is also rung at should be heated j and the collodion &Hruii«i witb
Kidderminster. This and the curfew bell have **>■ hand, to make it adhere well." The owl (p. 81)
been rung for many years past by " Blind Wil- ?",^. tlj* "°'^,. Cp- "OO »™ f"«n " «'■*• wat*! «ith
liam," who, notwithstanding his total blindness, '«"^'> "•"'"ion "renilered sensilire ' only, and not
finds his way along the streits that lead ftom his ^."'•'-P'd » -» to be only semi-opaque. On ^is high
• . ,, ^ , 'I 1 .,,,<. .., ., lights were put vilh opique white, ana darki were
etched out, Tl ' ' ~
= .,,,,,., , » ., hut requires m
E'*...""?"?:.".'! ."'/..:5."!°J!. ™.?':; Ibrn,., mBhod. in ..d.r to bU III. pi,bl
houK to Ih. chuiiT., .nd g.ia. Ik. belfry will, the S,j""? 'S.-''!,.. 'Z'^2.7 ,.%Ztii7S!!!J^
. . f< 11 -1. . I 3 -Li. .1. etched out. iois has the eneet of a linteduthoffripn,
greatest ease. So well m be acquainted with the ^^^^ ^^;^„ ^^^j, „„^ „„ j^ p,.„ji„g ^hil. S.^
of the streets in as decided ft-manner as if ,„_ that I have utually prlnlfd the stork faintly ao as
bis wide-open eyes were endowed with sight; and, not to ihow the "tint" at all. The frontiipiwre u
■with Biniilar facility, be unlocks the gates and ftom a paper negative, a method muoh mora trouble,
church doors. It is curious to see him on the aome and tedious than either of the othen, both in
dark winter evenings, apparentlr guiding bis steps preparation of the negative and in printing.
by the light of a lantborn, which he probably I have lately tried gilt glaii to etch upon. This
carries in order to prerent careless people, who would he eieellent, were it not most painful to (ho
are blessed with ai^t, from running against him. eyes. And more than two yean ago, I prepared a
Like most (if not all) blind people, hehas an ex- negative by painting whites with water colour on trans-
traordinary ear for music, and will quickly ropro- P«tent glass with moderate success.
duce on his violin any tune that may have caught } ^"f f^^""? rec'^''^i f^™ ^™' f po^''"
Lis fancy. At this present festive period, a Kid- E!!"*^ '^™, \''T"nr° n'T ??*>'?' "i^"?
derminater Christmas would lack oSe of its com- ^""f r°?-'" *'^^- °^f '^ "" J'^ h«" *ri«d.
ponent parts, were Blind Willie and his fiddle not ^i„"h," ,„' ,n"ci^of eZ.vne """ "'
there to add to the harmoy of the kindly season. q„„ whil £ the heat coating*"for the glan i and
During the month preceding Christmas, he pro- ,h.i will be the cost of printing on a greTt aeala, a*
menades the streets at unlimely hours, and draws compared with woodcut, lithograph, &o. ; In whloh
from his old fiddle all the musie which it is capable must he included the eost of the skilled workman
of giving forth. Indeed, Blind Willie may be which will be saved by this method?
considered (in Kidderminster at least) as the bar- Hdou BuLcaanav,
bingerofChristmas, for he warns the inbabitanto jwi,^„ ,, ,jj ^^^^ .^e work referred to is aa
of Its approach, long before the ordinary "waita jaition of IH. Siilory of Lite, Dawnu, that the
na-ve taken their ordinary measures for the aante prints in it are executed by a lady, and printed at
purpose. And when Christmas Da^ ia past and home by the photographic proeeas, and that a liroKed
Sane, be makes n house-to-house visitation fbr the number of copies may be bad on application to Messrs,
hristmas-box which is to be the reward of his .
■' early minstrelsy." • This method was luggested to me by Fnfcnor
The curfew is rung at Bewdley in Worcester- Maconochie, who indeed prepared the glass on irtiUt
ahire. tba mice wen etelied.
Bjbo. 24. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
629
CSonttoble and Co, of Edinburgh, the sale being for
Ike benefit of the Glasgow Ragged School, we have
BO doubt many of our readers will be glad to secure
copies, and help to forward the good work which its
publication is intended to promote.]
CoBodioH Negaitvet, — Allow me to communicate a
mure and simple way of darkening collodion positives
for printing. It was shown to me by a friend of mine ;
and not having seen it in your ** N. & Q.,** 1 have
undertaken to lay it before your readers, hoping that
it may be found useful to many beginners.
After having developed your picture, as a positive,
with protosulphate of iron and nitric acid, wash it well
from the developing fluid, and keep it on one end that
all the water may drop from the plate. Then take
three parts of a concentrated solution of gallic acid,
and one part of a nitrate of silver solution, 60 grains
to the ounce of water ; mix together, and pour on the
plate. The picture will gradually begin to blacken ;
aod after half an hour or more, you will obtain a suffi-
aent density for printing a positive on paper.
Every one who will take the trouble to try it will
be sure to succeed. Of all the ways to blackening a
picture for printing I have tried, not excepting Pro-
fessor Maconochie*s method with chloride of gold and
muriate of ammonia, the surest I find is the one which
I have laid before you. Just try it, and you will be
glad with the result. F. M. (a Maltese.)
Malta, Valetta.
30iepXUi tn Minax ^utxlti.
* ^^Zondon Labour and the London Poor" (Vol. viii.,
p. 527.). — I beg to inform Mb. Gantuxon that
the above work is discontinued. The parts en-
titled " Those that will work " and " Those that
cannot work" have been completed, and form a
Taluable book; but the discontinuance of the
third part is no loss at all, for in commencing upon
"Those that will not work," Mr. May hew began
with a history of prostitution in ancient and
modern times, a subject which did not possess the
novelty or originality of his other divisions, and
consequently bis readers fell off so fast that he
was forced first to raise the price of, and after-
wardff to discontinue altogether, the publication.
Probably, if he had confined himself to treating
the London prostitutes as he did the coster-
mongers, the work would have been completed,
and would then have formed a complete encyclo-
psedia of London Labour and the London Poor.
Arthur C. Wilson.
Brompton.
Felicia Hemans's inedited Lyric (Vol. viii.,
p» 407.). — Your correspondent Mr. Weld Tay-
lor seems to possess the first rude draught of the
following beautiful piece by Felicia Hemans, en-
titled, '' The Elfin Call,'* a duet sung by Miss A.
Williams and Miss M. Williams, Miss Messent and
Miss Dolby, Mrs. A. Newton and Miss Lanza^
Miss Cobitt and Miss Porter, Mrs. Aveling Smith
and Miss Sara Flower, Miss Emma Lncombe and
Miss Eliza Birch, Miss Turner and Miss E. Turner.
The music by Stephen Glover :
** Come away, Elves ! while the dew is sweet.
Come to the dingles where fairies meet ;
Know that the lilies have spread their bells
O'er all the pools in our forest dells ;
Come away, under arching bows we'll float.
Making each urn a fairy boat ;
WeUl row them with reeds o*er the fountains fire^
And a tall flag-leaf shall our streamer be.
And we*ll send out wild music so sweet and low.
It shall seem from the bright flower's heart to flow ;
As if *twere a breexe with a flute's low sigh^
Or water-drops train'd into melody.
And a star from the depth of each pearly cup,
A golden star into heav'n looks up.
As if seeking its kindred where bright they lie.
Set in the blue of the summer sky.**
J. Yeowbll.
Sir Arthur Aston (Vol. viii., pp. 126. 302.).—
Though unable to inform Chastham and A.
Reader in what part of the co. of Berks the
above cavalier resided during the interval of
time named by the former, I think I can state the
connexion, by marriage only, between the Tat-
tersall and Aston families : I believe it will be
found that they were not " nearly related.**
Thomas Howard, fourth duke of Norfolk, by
his first wife, Mary Fitzalan, had Philip (jure
matris)y Earl of Arundel, who died 1595 attainted,
and was succeeded by Thomas, created Earl of
Norfolk. This last was father of Henry Frederick
and grandfather of Charles Howard, of Greystock
Castle, who man*ied Mary, eldest daughter and
coheiress of George Tattersall, of West Courts
Finchampstead, and Stapleford, co. Wilts.
Charles Howard, as above, was the fourth
brother of Henry, sixth Duke of Norfolk, which
last was grandfather (through Thomas, his son, of
Worksop) of Mary Howard, who married Walter
Aston, fourth Baron Aston, of Forfar, in Scotland*
H. C. C»
I furnished a memoir of this famous soldier to
the OentlemarCs Magazine in 1833 or 1834.
G. Steinman Steinmaw*
Chrammar in relation to Logic (Vol. viii., p. 514.)»
— Me. Imglebt evidently has but a superficial
view of this doctrine, which is not only Dr.
Latham's, but one, I apprehend, pretty well known
to every Oxford undergraduate, viz. that, logi»
cally, conjunctions connect propositions^ not wortU»
By way of proving the falsity of it (which he says
is demonstrable), he bids l3r. Latham "resolve
this sentence : All men are either two'legged^ one^^
legged, or no-legged:" and adds, "It cannot be
done.'* I may inform him that the three categorical
propositions, " A man is two-legged, or he is one*
6se
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[Na 817.
kgged, or he i* noJe^ed," connected b; their
wveni copulw, are equivalent to and co-exteniive
^th the dujuDcdTe propositloa which he ioBtaaceg.
Mb. Iholbby quote* Boole'* Mathematical (f)
Analj/tia of Logic in support of hu opiaioD; but,
from the followiDg Bpecimen of that work, it does
not appear to be much of an authoritj. The
author aaja :
" The propcuiEtan, Ertrj animal i* cither latiooal or
imlional, cannot be resolTed into, Either oer; animal
is ntionil or STBry animal is irrational. The fbrmer
belongs to pun oalegacioBls, the latter to hjpo-
thetiMli."
' Now the first sentence of this passage is an ab-
surd truism ; but the propoaitton iu question can
be resolved into — An animal is rational or it is
irrational. Again, " the former does not belong
to pure categoricals," it is slmplj disjuactiTe.
Mk. iHanssi fails into the same error, and more-
OTer seems not to be aware that a disjunctive pro-
position ia at the same time hypothetical.
'Logically speaking, a conjunction implies two
propositions; and, strictly, connects propositions
only. To sa^ that conjunctions connect words,
nay be true m a certain sense ; but it is a very
Mparfioial and Iuok mode of ataliug the matter.
: - -i ■ Bactory, Hereford.
of more than once or twice, people of the same
names, and those very uncommon ones, who were
in no way related to each other ; nevertheless,
I venture to tell your correspondent J. F, M.
that about twenty years ago there was living the
skipper of a coasting vessel, trading between
Bndport and London, named Caleb Clark. He
or hii family are prohablj living at Bridport now.
AXipa.
iVowMciofirm ofBMe Namtt (Tol.viii., p. 469.).
— The clerk of a retired parish in North-west
Devon, who had to read the first lesson always,
nsed to make a hash of Shadrac, Meshac, and
Abedneeo ; and as the names are twelve times
repeated in the third chapter of Daniel, after get-
ti^ through them the first time, he called t£em
"the aforesaid gentlemen" afterwards.
W. COLLTRB.
Harlow.
Hmrn I.'t Tomb (Vol. viii., p. 411.).— I fancy
that the much mooted question, as to the existence
of « monumental tomb over the remains of King
Henry I. in Reading Abbey, may at once be set
at rest hj referring to Tanner'a Notitia Moaattica,
edit. 1744, in the second column of p. 15, ; where
it is evident that a tomb and an effigy of King
Henry I. had once existed; that they had both
lUlen into decay ; and that, in the time of King
Richard IL, the Abbot of Reading was reqniMd ts
repair both the tomb and the effigy of King Henry
the founder, who was there buried, within tha
space of one year, a* the condign on whidi dM
charters were to be confirmed :
•' Cart 5 & G Rie. II. n. 94. ; Pat 8 Eia. IL
p. I. m. 18. i Pat 16 Rio. II. p. 1. m. BB. i Pat. SI
Kic, II. p. 3. m. 16. * ConGciD. Libertatum, modo
Abbu infra unum Annum honeate nparurat Tumbui
at loiaginem S. Hnriei Fundalorii, ilndcin humMi."
LT.A.
BeU«o(Serwic4-towii-rioei«J(Tol.viii^p.29a.);
CAamOtr, Bitkop of Durham (Vol. viii, p. Ml.).
— I may perhaps "kill two birds with one stone^"
by reminding Mbssks. Gattv and Nbwbdmi that
the Bishops of Durham were formerly iVlNCM of
the Palatinate. It was probably in that capui^
that Bishop Chsndler delivered a chai^ to tM
Grand Jury, and Bishop Barington licetMsd m
meeting-house bell. This latter prelate inM, I
believe, the last who eierdsed the flinctioni of
that high office. Wm. Hoxl.
Betum of Otntrg, tmtp. Henry VI. (V«4. Tiiin
p. 469.). — The return of 12lh Henry VL n
printed in Fuller's Worthies, under each conn^.
G. STBimun SnnafAK.
I read in Fuller's Worihiei, edit. Nuttall, vol. i.
p.60. ;
" A later list might be presented of the Engliih
gentry towarda the end of the reign of King Heary
VIII."
Peter A2lan (Vol. viii., p. 539.).— Toor BOrr«>
Bpondent £. C. will find much interesting infimn-
atioo respecting this person in an Mcoont cf htm
reprinted from the .Saitdtr^iHKj mid i>iinUM Cmn^
BeraU, and published (184S) by Vint and Cvn^
Sunderland, under the title of Marede» Jloei, or
tie Story of PeUr Allan, and Startden Mfarim
GroUo. He, his wife, eight children, and and
father and mother, are there desoribed u
a very flourishing oondi^on : and (if I r
righth) I saw &em all, when I hat vinted tha
rock in 18£0. Cuthwbit Bxttm, B.A.
Bwial ia an Erect Posture (Vol. viii, p. 3.). —
The following passage, which I quote from Hearne'l
CoSection of Antiquarian Diicourtet, vol. i. p. 212.,
may perhaps prove acceptable to CHEVBBU.La, as
showing (on b'adltional authority) that thti mode
of burial wus anciently adopted in the case of
ffaptains in the army i
" For them aboie the graunde buryed, X )an t^
tradition beard, that when anye notable oapt^ne dyad
in bettaloreampe,lhesDuMyenuted to take his body*,
J%BC 24. 1653.] NOTES AND QUERIES. «S1
lamwe or pik« iota fan lumd i ud then hit fvllowe Q." being u) azceUeot medium for luch uiggcs-
•onldjen did bj tnrell ererye maa bringe to muche tions.
•arthe, and In; e aboute him ss ahould cover him, lod SophocieB having referred to " an illuitrioaa
mount up to eoier tb« top of hi» pike." Mjing of fome one," anii the old scholiut hwing
I have B Terj curious print in mj poMeuion, furniahed this Mjiog,
HltutTBting the manners and cuetomB of the Lip- "'Oi-ov f i taliiat irtfii ropirirf muni
landers ; and, amongst tlie rest, their nodes of Tte hw Mk^ wpinr f ^HAiitrw,"
IjKrial. In one ewe several bodies are repreieuted ;t merely became necessBrj lo compare the foim
studing in an npnght potture, p^fectlj nude ^i,,^^ Sophocles adopted to suit lOTinetre with
with raLhngs all round except m the front; and ^^^ words of this « illustrious sajlng," whence it
Mother, one body IS repreBenled in a Bimikr cott- >p™red that-
dition, inclosed in akind of sentrr-box. '^'^ , , ,-,,,.
R W P f ffaii\firTai'--wpdiiim6 aKiyavTlir-xpir«''iKTii dTot;
Clifton. ' and therefore I could not agree with the common
version, " and that he lives for a brief space apart
TAb Word '' Moi" (Tol,viii.,pp,386.524.3730- from its visitation ;" erroneous, as I submit, from
— Hoger North, speaking of the King's Head, or the adoption of Brunck's reading Ti>iciteir, inslead
Oreen Ribbon Club, winch was "a more visible of reading, as I venture to do, with Uermaon,
administration, mediate, as it were, between his 3tii &¥•■ - - . . iipaaaii t\ taking btis as the nomir
Vttdship (Shafiabur]') and the greater and lesser native of both verbs.
Vulgar, who were tn be the immediate tools," Neither the Oxford translation, Edwards's, noi
■ays : Buckley's, renders iMywrrov "cirry brief," agreeably
" I may note (hat the rabble firrt cliangcd iheir to the admonition of the old scholiast to the con-
fitJe, and were called (At mo*, in the aasembli™ of thii trary. I'he word "practise" objected to is, I
dub. lE was their beuE of burthen, and called first submit, derived from rpaffain, to act, through
miUle culyui, but fell naturally into the contraclion of wpdyiut, business, and upSfit, practice, and is there-
oqe syllable, and eser tince ii become proper English." fore the most appropriate English word, although
-^£*oin™, part 111. ch. iii.p.S9- the word "does will furnish Sophocles' meau-
H. GmDisBE. ing nearly as well. I shall, however, be most
Gen. 5.r C. N^ier (Vol. viii., p. 490.).— b^ppy to submit to correction by any classical
J may state, for tSe instrucUon of officers who scholar. 1. J.BocKroir.
think study needless in their profession, that, bav- Lichfield.
ng enjoyed the intimate friendship of Sir C p^^.Smii?e. of the S«OTfe*n(A Century
Nap^r for some time before he had the command (Vol. viii., p. 4S5.).-I must beg of you to con-
m the midland district of England, I •"""tantly J^ji^t i^^ i„^^' statement oTJaeItzbebo at
found h.m_ eng^ed in mquir.es connected with ^^ ^^^ y^,^^ ..^^ ,^ ^l,^ ^^.^^ „f t^,
his profession He was always m training. Not ^^^ ^ j, j j , ft- y^^ Rome."
Iftiig before this tnne he had returiied from Caen, ^^^ Church of England did'' never «p«™(e
la Normandy and he told me thai when there he y ^ Christfan Church ; the doctrine
fad surveyed the ground on which W.li.am the ^ discipline of the Church of England is to be
Conqueror had acquired mditaryf^oe before he , ^ ;/i,er Book of Common Prayer. Popes
"•^^w^^n"" England, and b» conclusion j^ ^^^ ^.^^ jy_ ^g.^^^ t„ ^'„„g^ ^
■'f ^L ^"^ S^°H''^">J' 7" lemarkably weU ^^ if Queen Elizabeth would acknowledge the
instructed for his time m the art of war. He p™'„upremacy ; and Roman Catholics in tbe«
^pressed hi. intention to wnte on ^.a subject; ^^1,^^ habitually conformed to the worship of the
tat great events soon afterwards called him to ^.^^ „f j,„ f^^^ j.^^ ^^ g^^^ ^^^^ of
JudiajWhioh became the scene of his own mastery Elizabeth's reign, after which time the,
mmibtarywidcivil command. T. l". ^^^ prevented from d^ing so bv the bull of
To Com* (Vol. viii., p. 468.).-In the Lower ^}-^^ J' f:^"'^^ ^^^^ ^^' '^''^^' ''""'' ""O^"'
Saxon dialect, to come is eamen, and the imper- '"»'*^ *^'* sovereign
fec,«inGo4ie„».., It would therefore ^m ^,^J:>^^ '^ ^' '^'^TJ^tTc^^
that die English came is not an innovation, but a g"<->'™-
partUl restoration or preservation of a very an- Judgei styUd Reverend (Tol. viii., pp. 158. 276.
cientform. (See Adeluug'a Worterbuch.'} 351.). — Sir Anthony Fitzherbert was certainly
E. C. H. jj(,t (jhief justice, yet in A Letter to a Convocatum
Patiage in Sophocles (Vol. viii., pp. 73. 478.). •^-^n ^ fin-^ ^'^ '" ^^J^''^ '
— The Italics were introduced to draw attention " I must admit that it is said in the second part of
to the new version which was adventured, "S, & Bolle's Abridgment, thai the Archbishop of Canterbury
632
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[No. 217.
prohibited to bold such assemblies by Fitsherbert,
Chief Justice, because he had not the King's licence ;
but he adds that the archbishop would not obey it, and
he quotes Speed for it. I shall not consult that lame
historian for a law-point, and it seems strange that
Rolle should cite him.** — JU C Af., p. 38.
I have not lately had an opportunity of looking
into either Rollers Abridgment of CasfiSy or Speed*8
History of Great Britain, but I am not able to
discover to what event in any of Henry VIII.'s
convocations allusion b here made. I am there-
fore led to think that Fitzherbert must be a
misprint, and that we should read in the above
passage " Fitz-Peter/* and that the following is
the circumstance, in King John*s reign, whicn is
referred to by the author of the Letter :
** This vear (1200), Hubert, Archbishop of Canter-
bury, held a National Synod at Westminster, notwith-
standing the prohibition of GeoffVey Fitz- Peter, Earl
of Essex, and Chief Justiciary of England." — Collier's
Eecleaicutical History, vol. i. folio, p. 410.
I shall be glad if any of yoar readers can throw
farther light on the passage. W. Fbaseb.
, Tor-Mohun.
^ Veneration for the Oak (Vol. viii., p. 468.). —
Since my Query upon this matter appeared, I find
that Mr, Layard, m his work upon Nineveh and
Babylon, at p. 160., describes a cylinder of ^een
felspar, whicn he believes to have been the signet
of Sennacherib, and upon which is engraved a
rare mode of portraying the supreme deity, and
a sacred tree, whose flowers are in this instance in
the shape of an acorn. Whence did the Assyrians
derive this veneration for a tree bearing acorns ?
Did they derive this notion, as they did their tin,
from Celtic Britain P I believe they did. G. W.
Stansted, Montfichet.
Happing no Novelty (Vol. viii., p. 5 12.). — De
Foe, m his veracious History of Mr. Duncan
Campbell (2nd ed., p. 107.), quotes a story of
spirit-knocking from '* the renowned and famous *'
Mr. Baxter's History of Apparitions, prefacing it
thus:
"What in nature can be more trivial than for a
spirit to employ himself in knocking on a morning at
the wainscot by the bed's head of a man who got drunk
over night, according to the way that such things are
ordinarily explained ? And yet I shall give you such
a relation of this, that not even the most devout and
precise Pruhyterian will offer to call in question."
According to De Foe, Mr. Baxter gave full
credit to the story, adding many pious reflections
upon the subject, and expressing himself " posed
to think what kind of spirit this is." R. 1. R.
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Notes:—
St. Stephen's Day and Riley's Hoveden, by J. S.
Warden -------
The Holy Trinity Church, Hull, by K. W. Elliot
HiNOR Notes : — Italian-English — American Names
— Rulers of the World iu 1853 — Revocation of the
Edict of Nantes - - - - -
Page
637
638
- 638
QUERIBS : —
Derivation of Silo, by Augustus Strong -
- 639
Minor Queries: — Handwriting — Rev. Joshua Brooks
— " New Universal Magazine " — Francis Browno —
Advent Hymn — Milton's Correspondence — "Beg-
ging the Question " — Passage of Cicero
Minor Queries with Answers :— Goldsmith's ** Haunch
of Venison ------
HlSCBLLANEOUS : —
Notes on Books, &c.
Books and Odd Volumes wanted
Notices to Correspondents
Advertisements --
Vol. VIIL — No.218.
639
- 640
Replies : —
School Libraries, by Weld Taylor, P. H. Fisher, &c. - 640
Trench on Proverbs, by T. J. Buckton, &c. - - 641
Major Andre ...... 643
Passage in Whiston . - - - - 645
Helmets ....... 645
Hampden's Death .-..-. 646
Peter Allan, by Shirley Hibberd . - - - 647
*• Could we with inlc," &c., by the Rev. Moses Margo-
liouth, &c. -..-.- 648
W^hat Day is it at our Antipodes ? - - -643
TifOTOGRAPnic Correspondence: — Aceto-Nitrate of
Silver— On the Restoration of old Collodion - 649
Replies to Minor Queries : — Admissions to Inns of
Court — Inedited Lyric by Felicia Hemans — De-
rivation of Britain — Derivation of the Word Celt
— " Kamtnagadeyathooroosoomokanoogonagira " —
Cash — '* Antiquitas Saeculi Juventus Mundi " —
Caves at Settle, Yorkshire — Character of the Song
of the Nightingale — Inscriptions in Books — Door-
head Inscription — Fogie — Sir W. Hewet — Ladies*
Arms borne in a lozenge — The Crescent — Abigail
— HandlMok to the Library of the British Museum —
The Arms of Richard, King of the Romans — Greek
and Roman Fortifications — Osbernus filius Herfasti
— Devonianisms — Gentile Nantes of the Jews ~. Lon-
gevity — Reversible Names — Etymology of Eve —
Manifesto of the Emperor Nicholas — Binometr leal
Verse— Gale of Rent - - - . - 650
. 655
- 656
- 656
- 657
ST. Stephen's day and biley*s hoyeden.
In Roger de Hoveden's account of the accident
which proved fatal to Leopold, Duke of Austria,
the jailer of Richard I. (Bohn's edit., vol. ii.
p. 345.), St. Stephen's Day, on which it occurred,
is twice stated to be before Christmas Day, instead
of after it. Is this an error of the author, or of
the translator ? * or are they right, and was St.
Stephen's martyrdom in those times commemo-
rated on a different day from what it now is ? I
cannot find, on reference to the authorities within
my reach, that this last was the case. Mr. Riley
does not notice the discrepancy at all.
In the translation of this volume, a few errors
have come under my observation, to which I beg
to call Mr. R.'s attention: 1. In his note on Co-
rumphira's prophecy, at p. 36., he seems to forget
that the Mahometan year differs from the Julian
by eleven or twelve days, and that in consequence
A.D. 1186 does not correspond to a.h. 564; in
fact, the old astrologer is perfectly correct in
his chronology, more so than in his predictions,
many of which were signally falsified in the course
of the next few years. 2. A mountain frequently
mentioned by his author as projecting into the
sea at the boundary of Catalonia and Valencia,
and called ^* Muncian," he says in a note at p. 151.
is " probably Montserrat," which is far from either
the sea or the frontier ; the maps of Spain all
show, near the town of Vinaros on the east coast,
a hill on the sea-shore called " Monte Sia," which
still, as then, forms the boundary in that direction
between the two provinces. 3. In his note at
p. 156. on "Mount Gebel," the translator says,
"he (the author) probably means Stromboli;"
surely the name of Mongibello, and the mention
of Catania a few lines farther down should have
shown him that Etna only could be meant, although
part of the mistake is due to Hoveden himself,
who talks of it as a separate island from Sicily.
Mr. Riley's other geographical notes are generally
[• The text in the Scriptores post Bedam reads : —
" Eodam anno die S. Stephani protomartyris infra
natale Domini.'*]
638
NOTES AND QUERIE&
[No. 218.
correct, though a little more pnins might have
great); increased their number, to tho elucidation
of hia author's account of the Crusaders' pro-
ceedingsin the East. 4. At. p. 249. awell-known
passase from Horace la ascribed to Juvenal.
J. S. Wabmf.
There is an error in the headii^ of one of the
architectural notes appended to the Proceedingi
of Ike Arch. Init. held at York in 1846. From
the description which is given (p. 38.), it is pinin
that the above church is the one to which the note
refers ; not that of St. Mary's, which ii the title
of the article.
The material of the whole church is not, also,
" brick with stone dressings," as the note informs
lu, ontj the chancel, south porcb, and south tran-
sept ; all the rest is of stone, and in a verj sad
State of repsir. A few jears ago, the south tran-
sept was restored ; but the ornamental part was
worked in such bad stone, that the crockets of the
Sinnacles have alreadj begun to moulder away.
t is a curious fact, that Bishop Ljllleton, who
visited Hull in 1756 for the express purpose of
" examining the walls of the town, and the mate-
rials of which the Holy Trinity Church is con-
structed," should have stated in the Arrkanlogia
(vol. i, p. 146.) that there did not appear to be " a
tingle brieh in or about the whole fabric, except a
few in the south porch, placed there of late years."
There is a matter of great archieological interest
connected with the part of the church which is
built of brick ; for, as there is reason to believe
that the chancel was raised in the year 12S5, there
is good foundation for the supposition, that Hull
was " the first town to restore in this country the
useful art of brickmaking" (Frosfs Mull, p. 138.).
The walls of the town, which were erected by
royal licence in 1322, nnd still standing with their
gates and towers in the time ofLeland and Cam-
den, are described by them as being of brick.
Leland also says (Itin., edit, Hearne, fol, 53.) that
the greater part of the " houses of the town at
that tyme (Richard II.) was made al of brike."
R. W. EixioT.
Clifton.
tion of olil goodi, all quits new, eintnted from private
personal dif^iDgL He ielli tooled cLayi, old maible
■tones, will) bauo'TelieTO!, with stening-pots, brass
HcrificiLig pofs, and antik lamps. Here ii a stocking
of calves lieads and feels Tor single ladies and amateurs
travelling. Alfio old coppers and oandleaticki ; with
Nola jugs. Eltuscin saucers, and much more intel-
lectual minds articles ; all entitling him to learned
man's inspection to examine him, nnd supply it with
illustrious protection, of which be hope full and valo-
rous Mtisbelion.
" N. B. — He make all the old thing brand n
geiitlen
coiled
,.ndw
r for
He have also one manner quite original Tor
I, all indeed unique, and advantage him to
V. T. Stbbbbbbo.
American Namei. — In the Journal of Thomas
Moore, lately published in Lord John Russell's
memoirs of the poet, is the following passage,
under date of October 18, 1816 :
■' Some traveller in America mentions having met a
man called Romulus Riggs ; whether true or not, very-
like thnr miilure of the classical and the low,"
Then
IS borne by a very respectable ir
guage
Naples
Eagliak (Vol. viii., p. 436.).— The fol-
whotesale assassination of the English lau-
naa perpetrated in the form of A circular,
stributed among the British reiidenta at
in 1832 :
rph the Cook, he offer to one illuminated public
■t partiaular for British knowing men in general
narkable, pretty, Gimous, and splendid aollte-
hrother Remus B . .
in the district of Columbia, Romulus, who sur-
vived his brother, aflerwai'ds became an eminent
merchant in Fhiladelphiu, nhere be died a few
Philadelphia.
Rulera of the World m 1853. —Perhaps the
following table, whiuh I have recently met with ia
a foreign journal, may be thought of sufficient in-
terest to make a Note of. In these unsettled
times, and in ease of a general war, how much
niijjht it be changed !
There ore at present eight]r-three empires,
monarchies, republics, principalities, duchies, end
electorates.
There are six emperors, including his sable
highness, Faustin I. of St. Domingo ; sixteen kings,
numbering among them Jamaco, King of all the
Mosquitoes, and also those of Dahomey and the
Sandwich Islands ; five queens, including Bana-
valuna of Madagascar, and Pomare of the Society
Islands \ eighteen presidents, ten reigning princes,
seven grand dukes, ten dukes, one pope, two
sultans, of Borneo and Turkey ; two govemora, of
Entre Rios and Corrientes ; one viceroy, of Egypt ;
one shah, of Persia ; one imann, of Muscat ; one
ameer, of Cabul ; one bey, of Tunis ; and lastly,
one director, of Nicaragua. W. W.
Malta,
Bbc. si. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIE&
689
Bevocation of the Edict of Nantes, — The im-
mense loss sustained by France in all her great
interests, as affecting her civil and religious li-
berties, her eommercev trade, arts, sciences, not to
ijpeak of the unutterable anguish inflicted upon
Innidred of thousands of individuals (among whom
were the writer's maternal ancestors, — their
Bsme, Courage), b j the reyocation of the Edict of
Kantes, has lately called into action the pens of
•ome industrious and talented men of letters,
tmong whom M. Weiss is one of the most me-
litorious. His interesting work, I obsenre, is
about to receive an Engli»i dress. In the shape
of a Note through your medium, in order that the
translator may avail himself of information which,
possibly, may not have reached him, it should be
Known that Mr. William Jones, one of the highly
respected and accomplished employes of the
British Museum, has written a letter to the
Journal des Dehats (inserted in its number of
Nov. 30, and signed with his name), containing
fiirther information of a painfully- absorbing
nature, from documents in the Museum, respecting
the dragonnadesj and the sufferings and perse-
cutions of a French pastor. John Macbay.
Oxford.
Baretti*8 dictionary of that language, I find the
word " Siix>, a subterraneous granary.'* But, Sir»
this discovery only raises another question, and
one which I wish much to see solved. A Spanidb
substantive must be for the most part the name of
something exbting at some time or other in Spain.
WheUy therefore, did such granaries exist in
Spain, in what part of the country, and under what
circumstances f Augustus Stbohg.
Walcot Rectory, Bath.
<fturrittf.
DEBIVATION Or SILO.
Can you or any of your correspondents inform
me what is the derivation of the word silo f
For many years after the colony of New South
Wales was founded, it was almost wholly depen-
dent upon the mother countiy for such supplies
of grain, &c. as were necessary for the life and
health of its inhabitants ; and, consequently, store
ships were regularly despatched from our shores
to Sydney.
It happened however that, in consequence of
wrecks and other disasters, the colonists were, on
more than one occasion, reduced to the greatest
distress, and starvation almost began to stare them
in the face. Under these circumstances, one of the
early governors of Sydney, to prevent the recurrence
of famine, gathered a large supply of com and de-
posited it in granaries which he had excavated out
of the solid rock at the head of the bay, near the
month of the Paramatta River. These were termed
tiloa or siloes : they were hermetically sealed up,
and from time to time the old corn was exchanged
for new.
The su{^ly of corn in these remarkable store-
houses is still kept up ; nor as late as the time of
my departure from those colonies last year, did
I hear of any intention of discontinuing this old
eustom.
Now the termination of this word in o marks
it as Spanish ; and accordingly, on reference to
fSiiaax ^nttM.
Handwriting, — I should be much obliged if any
of your coiTespondents could inform me (and that
soon) whether there be published, in English,.
French, German, or Spanish (though it is most
desired in English), a manual giving a standard*
alphabet for the various kinds of writing now in*
use, viz. English hand, engrossing, Italian, Ger-
man text, &c., with directions for teaching the-
same ; in fact, a sort of writins-master^s key : and
if so, what is its title, and where it can be pro-
cured.
A friend believes to have seen such a work
advertised in The Athenaum (probably three or
four years ago), but has no recollection of the-
name. E. B.
Eev, Joshua Brooks. — Can any of your nume-
rous readers inform me as to the early history of
the late Rev. Joshua Brooks, who was for many
years chaplain of the Collegiate Church, Manchester,
and who died in 1821 ?
C. (1.)
" New Universal Magazine^ — I wish to know
the time of the commencement and termination of
the The New Universal Magazine, or Ladif*s Polite
Instructor.
A fevr volumes are in the British Museum.
Vol. vi. is for July 1754 to January 1755. D.-
Francis Browne. — Anthony Browne, first
Viscount Montague, married, secondly, Magdalen,,
daughter of Lord Dacre of Gillesland, from whom
descended (amongst others) Sir Henry Browne of
Kiddington. This Sir Henry married twice: his
second wife was Mary Anne, daughter of Sir P.
Hungate ; by her he had issue Sir reter Browne,
who died of wounds at Naseby. Sir Peter mar^
ried Margaret, daughter of Sir Henry KnoUyg,
and had two sons, Henry and Francis, Did this
Francis Browne ever marry ? and if so, whom,
and when, and where ? NswHUBiBicnai.
Advent Hymn. — Why is this hymn not included)
amongst those at the end of the Book of Commoni
Prayer ?
Might it not be added to those already given
for the other festivals of the Church, &c.r It
640
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 218.
would be an advantage in those churches where
the Prayer Book Psalms are used, and might avoid
the necessity of having separate Psalm and Hjmn
Books ; a custom much to be objected to, differ-
ing as they do in different churches, as well as
preventing strangers from taking part in them.
WiLLO.
Milton s Correspondence, — Has any English
translation of Milton's Latin familiar Correspon'
dence been published; and if so, when and by
whom ? Cranston.
^^ Begging the Question.^* — Will any correspon-
dent explain this phrase, and give its origin ?
Cabnatic.
Passage of Cicero. — I lately met with a writer
of some deep learning and research, who, amongst
other topics, entered into the subject of musical
inflection by orators, &c. Now, unfortunately, the
title and preface of the book is absent without
leave, nor is there any heading to it, so I can do
no more than say, the author refers to a passage
in these words :
" Cicero declares that only three tones or variations
of sound, or interval, were used in speaking In his time ;
whereas now our preachers, orators, and elocutionists
take in a range of eight at least.**
Will some indulgent reader of " "N. & Q." tell
me where such a passage occurs ? Semi-Tone.
^tii0r ^utxiti iuttib ^n^tti.
Goldsmith's " Haunch of Venison.'^ — What is
the name in this poem beginning with H, which
Goldsmith makes to rhyme with "beef?" Tlie
metre requires it to be a monosyllable, but there
is no name that I have ever heard of that would
answer in this place. Is the H a mistake for K,
which would give a well-known Irish name ?
J. S. Warden.
[A variation in the Aldine edition gives the line
« There's Coley and Williams, and Howard and Hiff."
Mr. Bolton Cornet, in his unrivalled edition of
Goldsmith's Poetical Works, 1846, has furnished the
following; note: — « JIoward=H. Howard? author of
The Choice Spirits Mustum, 1765; Co/cy=: Col man,
says Horace Walpole ; H — rM = Hogarth? a surgeon
of Golden Square ; Hiff= Paul Hiffernan, M. D.,
author of Dramatic Genius, &c.** Mr. Peter Cun-
ningham, in his forthcoming edition of Goldsmith, will
probably tell us more.
SCHOOL UBRABIES.
(Vol. viii., pp. 220. 395. 498.)
When I mentioned the above subject in '^ N.ic
Q.,*' I admit that my meaning may have taken
too wide a signification. I, however, wrote ad-
visedly, my object being to draw the attention of
those schools that were in fault, and in the hope
of benefiting those that desired to do more. I
suppose I must exonerate Tonbridge, therefore,
from any aspersion; and as it appears they are
well provided, from Bacon and Kewton to Punch
and the Family Friend^ I am at a loss to know
how I can be of service.
Of the defects in popular education I am as
sensible as the rest of the multitude appear to be,
and my particular view of the case would, I fear,
be too lengthy a subject for these columns. It is
quite clear, however, that education is partial,
and in some sort a monopoly; its valuable
branches being altogether out of the reach of
more than half the population, and the staple in-
dustry of the people not sufficiently represented, —
as, for instance, the steam-engine. In them there
is not sufficient concentration, if I may use the
term, of instruction; and the requirements of
many arts and trades insufficiently carried out ;
the old schools and old colleges much too classical
and mathematical. If this position is untrue, no
popular scheme can be adopted at present; but
it appears more than probable that before long
the subject will be brought before the House of
Commons, and education made accessible to aU.
As to the money for the purpose, the country will
never grudge that. The obstacle appears to lie
more in persuading the endless religious sects into
which we are divided to shake hands over the
matter.
At present my only desire is, that boys at public
schools should have plenty of books, being assured
that reading while we are young leaves a very
strong and permanent impression, and cannot be
estimated too highly : besides which, if a youth
has access to works suited to his natural bent, he
will unconsciously lay in a store of valuable in-
formation adapted to his future career.
Wsxj> Taixob.
When I was at the College school, Gloucester,
in 1794, there was a considerable library in a
room adjoining the upper school. I never knew
the books used by the boys, though the room was
unlocked : in fact, it was used by the upper master
as a place of chastisement ; for there was kept the
block (as it was called) on which the unfortu-
nate culprits were horsed and whipped. The -li-
brary, no doubt, contained many valuable and
excellent works ; but the only book of which I
know the name as having been in it (and that
Dec. 31. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
641
only by a report in tlie newspapers of the day) was
Oldham's Poems, which, after a fire which oc-
cnrred in the school-room, was said to have been
the only book returned of the many which had
been taken away. P. H. Fisher.
Stroud.
In Knight's Life of Dean Colet (8vo., London,
1724), founder of St. Paul's School, there is a
catalogue of the books in the library of the school
at the date specified. The number of the volumes
k added up at the end of the catalogue, in MS.,
and the total amount is 663 volumes. The latest
purchases bear the date of 1723, and are: —
Fierson (sic) On the Creed, Greenwood's English
Chrammar, and Terentius In usum Delphinu The
books for the most part are of a highly valuable
and standard character. Does the library still
exist ? have many additions been made to it up
to the present time ? and is there a printed cata-
logue of it? J. M.
Oxford.
TBENCH ON FBOYEBBS.
(Vol.viii., pp. 387. 519.)
The error, which Luther was the first to fall into,
in departing from the anciently received version
of Ps. cxxvii. 2., Mendelsohn adopted; but no
translator of eminence has followed these two
Hebraists ; although some critics have been car-
ried away by their authority to the proper Jewish
notion of " gain," and not sleep, being the subject.
Luther's version — "Denn semen Freuuden gibt
er es schlafend" — was certainly before the re-
visers of our authorised version of James I. ; but
was rejected, I consider, as ungrammatical and
false : ungrammatical, because the transitive verb
" give " {gibt) has no accusative noun ; and false,
because he supplies, without authority, the place
of the missing noun by the pronoun "it" (es),
there being no antecedent to which this it refers.
Mendelsohn omits the it in his Hebrew comment,
supplied however unauthorisedly by Mb. Mabgo-
liiouTH in his translation of such comment. But
Mendelsohn introduces the "cj" (it), in his Ger-
man version (Berlin, 1788, dedicated to Ramler),
without however any authority from the Hebrew
original of this Psalm. He is therefore at vari-
ance with himself. And, farther, he has omitted
altogether the important word 1? (so or thus),
rendered " denn'' (for) by Luther.
As to the *' unintelligible authorised version," I
must premise that no version has yet had so large
an amount of learning bestowed on it as the
English one ; indeed it has fairly beaten out of
tiie field all the versions of all other sections of
Christians. The difficulty of the English version
arises from its close adherence to the oriental
letter ; but if we put the scope of this Psalm into
the vernacular, such difficulty is eliminated.
Solomon says, in this Psalm : " Without Je-
hovah's support, my house will fall : if He keep
this city, the watch, with its early-risings, late-
resting, and ill-feeding, is useless : thus He (by so
keeping or watching the city himself) gives sleep
to him whom He loves'* The remainder of the
Psalm refers to the increase of population as
Jehovah's gift, wherein Solomon considers the
strength of the city to consist. The words in
Italics correspond precisely in sense with those of
the authorised version — ^^For so He giveth His
beloved sleep;" and the latter is supported fully
by all the ancient versions, and, as far as I can at
present ascertain, by all the best modern ones.
T. J. BUCKTON.
Lichfield.
What is there unintelligible in the authorised
translation of Psalm cxxvii. 2., " He giveth His
beloved sleep?" It is a literal translation of
three very plain words, of the simplest gram-
matical construction, made in accordance with all
the ancient versions. A difficulty there does in-
deed exist in the passage, viz. in the commencing
word p ; but this word, though capable of many
intelligible meanings, does not enter into the pre-
sent question. Since the great majority of critics
have been contented to see no objection to the
received translations, it is perfectly allowable to
maintain that the proposed rendering makes, in-
stead of removing, a difficulty, and obscures a
passage which, as generally understood, is suffi-
ciently lucid. Hengstenberg's difficulty is, that
the subject is not about the sleep, but the gain.
But is not sleep a gain? Can we forget the
iWou hapov of Homer ? that is, sufficient, undis-
turbed sleep, rest. Hengstenberg's remark, that
all, even the beloved, must labour, is a mere
truism. The Psalmist evidently opposes exces-
sive and over- anxious labours, interfering with
natural rest, to ordinary labour accompanied with
refreshing sleep. The object of his censure is
precisely the fifpi^va, which forms the subject of
our Lord's warning ; who censures not due care
and providence, but over-anxiety. Burkius rightly
remarks, that i<^^ is antithetical to surgere, se^
dere, dolorum. Hammond observes, with far more
clearness and good sense than Hengstenberg,
" For as to the former of these, wicked men that in-
cessantly moil, and cark, and drudge for the acquiring
of it, and never enjoy any of the comforts of this life,
through the vehement pursuit of riches, are generally
frustrated and disappointed in their aims : whereas, on
the contrary, those who have God*s blessing thrive in-
sensibly, become very prosperous, and yet never lose any
sleep in the pursuit of it,**
Bishop Home agrees ; his remarks having evi-
dent reference to Hammond's. So Bishop Hors-
642
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[No. 218.
ler, more brieflj, but with his usual force : " You
take all this trouble for your security in yain,
whilst He eives His beloved sleep." Dr. French
and Mr. Skinner adhere to the same sense in their
translation, and pertinently refer to Psalms iii.
And iy., in which the Psalmist, though beset by
enemies, lies down and takes his rest, defended
by Grod his Keeper. So far, indeed, from seeing
anything unintelligible, I see no obscurity, either
of expression or connexion, in this view, but very
^eat obscurity in the double ellipsis now pro-
posed. In the received translation we have a
transitive verb, and a noun, obviously its accu-
^tative, according to the natural sequence and
simple construction of the Hebrew language. In
the proposed rendering we must understand an
Accasative case after giveth (i. e. bread, as Rosen-
miiller and others observe), and a particle before
■$leep. The transitive verb has no subject; the
noun nothing to govern it. We must guess at
both.
As for the alleged instances of ellipses, I main-
tain they are not analogous. I cannot call to
mind any which are ; and if any of your corre-
spondents would show some they would do good
service. Hengstenberg's examples of 3*\y, -^pa, &c.
«re surely not in point. We have a similar el-
iipais, often used in idiomatic English, morning'^
noon, and night; but who would say sleep, instead
of tm sUep^ or while asleep f The ellipses in the
Psalms, in the Songs of Degrees themselves, are
very numerous, but they are of a different na-
ture ; and neither the position nor the nature of
the word VC^ warrants that now defended, as far
48 I can remember.
May I remark, by the way, that the Psalm falls
rather into three strophes than into two. The
first speaks of the raising up of the house, and of
the city (an aggrj^ation of houses), protected by
the Almighty. lae last is in parallelism to the
first, though, as oflen happens, expanded; and
tpeaks of the raising up of toe family, and of the
family arrived at maturity, the defenders of the
city, through the same protecting Providence.
The central portion is the main and cardinal sen-
timent, viz. the vanity of mere human labour, and
the peace of those who are beloved of God.
John Jebb.
There is a proverb which foretells peril to such
as interpose in the quarrels of others. But as
neither Mr. Trench, nor E. M. B., nor Mb. Mab-
QOLiouTH, have as yet betrayed any disposition to
quarrel about the question in dispute, a looker-on
need not be afraid of interposing.
The Query, about the solution of which they
differ, is the proper mode of rendering the last
clause of V. 2. Ps. cxxvii. In our Liturgy and
Bible it is rendered, " For so He giveth His be-
loved sleep;" of which E. M. B. says, "It seems
to me to be correct ;** though he justly observes
that " He will give ** would be more close. Mr.
Trench appears to have rendered it, " He giveth
His beloved in their sleep.** Mb. Mabgoliouth
says " the words should be, He will give to His
beloved whilst he [the beloved] is asleep.** In
each case the Italics, as usual, designate words not
existing in the Hebrew text.
When expositors would get through a difficult
passaffe, their readers have, not unfreqnently, the
vexation of finding that a word of some import*
ance has been ignored. Such has been the case
here with the little word p, which introduces the
clause. Its ordinary meaning is so ; and the office
of the word so, in such a position, is to lead the
mind to revert to what has been previously said,
as necessary to the proper application of what
follows. Now, the Psalmist*s theme was the
vanity of all care and labour, unless the Lord
both provide for and watch over His people ; for
80 He will give His beloved sleep — that happy,
confiding repose which the solicitude of the
worldly cannot procure. This is, surely, intel-
ligible enough ; and even if p may be translated
for (which Noldius, in his Coneoraantia Particu-
larum, afiirms that it here may, adducing however
but one dubious instance of its bein^ so used else-
where, viz. Jeremiah xiv. 10.), or if the various
reading, O, be accepted, which would mean for^
our version of the clause will be quite compatible
with either alteration.
In this concentrated proposition are contained,
the mode of giving, so ; the character of the re-
cipient, his Moved; and we reasonably expect to
be next told what the Lord will give, and the text
accordingly proceeds to say, sleep» Whereas, if
either Mr.Trench*s or Mb. Mab60liouth*8 version
of the clause could properly be accepted, the gift
would remain entirely unmentioned ; after atten-
tion had been called to the giver, to his mode of
giving, and to the recipient who might expect his
bounty. But whilst Mr. Trench is constrained to
interpolate in (heir^ apparently unconscious that
the Hebrew requires beloved to be in the singular
number, Mr. Mabgououth translates feOfi^ as if
it were a participle, which Luther seems also to
have heedlessly done. Yet unless M^ be a noon,
derived with a little irregularity from |B^, he ^eni,
it has nothing to do with sleep. It cannot be tne
participle of {t^, for that vero has a participle in
the usual form, not wanting the initial \ which
occurs in several places in the Old Testament, and
is used by Mendelsohn in the very sentence Mb.
Mabgououth has quoted from that Jewish ex-
positor. The critic who will not adcnowkdge
K^t^^ to be a noun in this clause, is therefore tied
up to translating it as either the participle or the
preterite of bO^ to change, or to f^Pf^ <^ would
thus make the clause retdly unintelligible.
Hbnbt Waltb*.
Dec 3L 1853.]
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643
1S[. B. inquires whether the translation of
Psalm cxxvii. 2. adopted by Mr. Trench has
the sanction of anj version but that of Luther.
I b^ leave to inform him that the passage was
translated in the same manner by Goverdaie :
" For look, to whom it pleaseth Him He giveth
it in sleep.*^ De AVette also, in modern times, has
" Giebt er seinen Geliebten im Schlafe." .
Vatablus, in his Annotations, approves of such
a rendering : ^* Dabit in somno dUectis suis." It
has also been suggested in the notes of several
modern critics.
Kot one of the ancient versions sanctions this
translation.
The sense of the passage will be much the same
whichever of these translations be adopted. But
the common rendering appears to me to harmonise
best with the preceding portion of it. S. D.
MAJOR ANDRE.
(Vol. viii., pp. 174. 604.)
The following extracts and cuttings from news-
papers, relative to the unfortunate Major Andre,
may interest your correspondent Serviens. I
believe I have some others, which I will send when
I can lay my hand upon them. I inclose a peucil
copy of the scarce print of a sketch from a pen-
and-ink drawing, made by Andre himself on
Oct. 1, 1780, of his crossing the river when he
was taken :
** Visit to the Grave of Andre, — We stopped at
Piermont, on the widest part of Tappan Bay, where
'the Hudson extends itself to the width of three miles.
On the opposite side, in full view from the hotel, is
Tarry town, where poor Andre was captured. Tradition
says that a very large white-wood tree, under which he
was taken, was struck by lightning on the very day
that news of Andre's death was received at Tarry town.
As I sat gazing on the opposite woods, dark in the
shadows of moonlight, I thought upon how very slight
a circumstance often depends the fute of individuals
and the destiny of nations. In the autumn of 1780,
a fiirmer chanced to be making cider at a mill on the
east bank of the Hudson, near that part of Haver-
straw Bay called * Mother*s Lap.* Two young men,
carrying muskets, as usual in those troubled times,
stopped for a draught of sweet cider, and seated them-
sdves on a log to wait for it. The farmer found them
looking very intently on some distant object, and in-
quired what they saw. * Hush, hush I* they replied;
* the red coats are yonder, just within the Lap,' pointing
to an English gun-boat, with twenty-four men, lying
on their oars. Behind the shelter of a rock, they fired
into the boat, and killed two persons. The British
ratumed a random shot ; but ignorant of the number
of their opponents, and seeing that it was useless to
waste ammunition on a hidden foe, they returned
whence they came with all possible speed. This boat
bad been sent to convey M^jor Andre to the British
sloop-of-war Vulture, then lying at anchor off Teller's
Point. Shortly after Andrl arrived, and finding the
boat gone, he^ in attempting to pass through the in-
terior, was captured. Had not those men stopped to
drink sweet cider, it is probable that Andre would not
have been hung ; the American revolution might have
terminated in quite a different fashion ; men now
deified as heroes might have been handed down to
posterity as traitors; our citizens might be proud of
claiming descent from Tories, and slavery have been
abolished eight years ago, by virtue of our being British
Colonies. So much may depend on a draught of cider !
But would England herself have abolished slavery had
it not been for the impulse given to freit principles by
the American revolution? Probably not. It is not
easy to calculate the consequences involved even in
a draught of cider, for no fact stands alone ; each has
infinite relations. A very pleasant ride at sunset
brought us to Orange Town, to the lone field where
Major Andre was executed. It is planted with potatoes,
but the plough spares the spot on which was once bis
gallows and his grave. A rude heap of stones, with
the remains of a dead fir tree in the midst, are all that
mark it ; but tree and stones are covered with names.
It is on an eminence commanding a view of the country
for miles. I gazed on the surrounding woods, and
remembered that on this selfsame spot, the beautiful
and accomplished young man walked back and forth,
a few minutes preceding his execution, taking an earnest
farewell look of earth and sky. My heart was sad
within me. Our guide pointed to a house in full view,
at half a mile's distance, which he (old us was at that
time the bead-quarters of General Washington. I turned
my back suddenly upon it. The last place on earth
where I would wish to think of Washington is at the
grave of Andre. I know that military men not only
sanction but applaud the deed ; and, reasoning accord-
ing to the maxims of war, I am well aware how much
can be said in his defence. I'liat Washington con-
sidered it a duty, the discharge of which was most
painful to him, I doubt not. But, thank God, the
instincts of my childhood are unvitlated by any such
maxims. From the first hour I read of the deed, until
the present day, I never did, and never could, look
upon it as otherwise than cool, deliberate murder. That
the theory and practice of war commends the transac-
tion, only serves to prove the infernal nature of war
itself A few years ago, the Duke of York
requested the British Consul to send the remains of
Major Andr^ to England. At that time two thriving
firs were found near the grave, and a peach-tree ; which
a lady in the neighbourhood had planted there, in the
kindness of her heart. The farmers who came to wit-
ness the interesting ceremony generally evinced the
most respectful tenderness for the memory of the un-
fortunate dead, and nuiny of the children wept. A few
idlers, educated by militia trainings and Fourth of July
declamation, began to murmur that the memory of
General Washington was insulted by any respect shown
to the remains of Andre ; but the offer of a treat lured
them to the tavern, where they soon became too drunk
to guard the character of Washington. It was a beau-
tiful day, and these disturbing spirits being removed,
the impressive ceremony proceeded in solemn silence.
644
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 218.
Tlie coffin was in good preservation, and contained all
the bones, with a small quantity of dust. The roots
of the peach-tree had entirely interwoven the skull with
their fine network. His hair, so much praised for its
uncommon beauty, was tied, on the day of his execution,
according to the fashion of the times. When his grave
was opened, half a century afterwards, the riband was
found in perfect preservation, and sent to his sister in
England. When it was known that the sarcophagus
containing his remains had arrived in New York, for
London, many ladies sent garlands and emblematic
devices, to be wreathed around it, in memory of the
' beloved and lamented Andre.* In their compas-
sionate hearts, the teachings of nature were unperverted
by maxims of war, or that selfish jealousy which dig-
nifies itself with the name of patriotism. Blessed be
God, that custom forbids women to electioneer or fight.
May the sentiment remain till war and politics have
passed away ! Had not women and children been kept
free from their polluting influence, the medium of
communication between earth and heaven would have
been completely cut off. At the foot of the eminence
where the gallows had been erected, we found an old
Dutch farm-house, occupied by a man who witnessed
the execution, and whose father often sold peaches to
the unhappy prisoner. He confirmed the account of
Andres uncommon personal beauty, and had a vivid
remembrance of the pale but calm heroism with which
he met his untimely death." — From Miss Child's
Letters from New York,
*^ Andre. — At the little town of Tappan, the unfor-
tunate Major Andr^, condemned by the council of war
as a spy, was executed and buried. His remains were
disinterred a few years ago, by order of the English
Government, carried to England, and, if I mistake not,
deposited in Westminster Abbey ; whilst the remains
of General Frazer, who fell like a hero, at the head of
the King's troops, lie without a monument in the old
redoubt near Still Water. The tree that grew over
Andre's grave was likewise sent to England ; and, as
I was told, planted in the King's Garden, behind
Carlton Palace.** — Duke of Weimar*s Travele,
•* Distniennent of Major Andri. — This event took
place at Tappan on Friday, 10th inst., at one p. m.,
amidst a considerable concourse of ladies and gentle-
men that assembled to witness this interesting cere-
mony. The British Consul, with several gentlemen,
accompanied by the proprietor of the ground and his
labourers, commenced their operations at eleven o'clock,
by removing the heap of loose stones that surrounded
and partly covered the grave. Great caution was ob-
served in taking up a small peach-tree that was grow-
ing out of the grave ; as the Consul stated his intention
of sending it to his Majesty, to be placed in one of the
Royal Gardens. Considerable anxiety was felt lest the
coffin could not be found, as various rumours existed
of its having been removed many years ago. However,
when at the depth of three feet, the labourers came to
it. The lid was broken in the centre, and had partly
fallen in, but was kept up by resting on the skull. The
lid being raised, the skeleton of the brave Andre ap-
peared entire ; bone to bone, each in its place, without
a vestige of any other part of his remains, save some .of
his hair, which appeared in small tufls ; and the only
part of his dress was the leather string which tied it.
** As soon as the curiosity of the spectators was gra-
tified, a large circle was formed ; when Mr. Eggleso,
the undertaker, with his assistants, uncovered the sar-
cophagus, into which the remains were carefully re-
moved. This superb depository, in imitation of those
used in Europe for the remains of the illustrious dead^
was made by Mr. Eggleso, of Broadway, of mahogany ;
the pannels covered with rich crimson velvet, sur-
rounded by a gold bordering ; the rings of deep bur-
nished gold ; the pannel also crimson velvet, edged
with gold ; the inside lined with black velvet; the whol&
supported by four gilt balls.
*< The sarcophagus, with the remains, has been
removed on board his Majesty's packet ; where, it is
understood, as soon as some repairs on board are com-
pleted, an opportunity will be affijrded of viewing it.**— •
From the New York Evening Post of Aug. 11.
** The remains of the lamented Major Andre have*
(as our readers already know) been lately removed
from the spot where they were originally interred in
the year 1780, at Tappan, New York, and brought ta
England iu the Phaeton frigate by order of his Royal
Highness the Duke of York. Yesterday the sarco-
phagus was deposited in front of the cenotaph in West-
minster Abbey, which was erected by his late Majesty*
to the memory of this gallant officer. The reinter-
ment took place in the most private manner, the Dean
of Westminster superintending in person. Major- Gen.
Sir Herbert Taylor attending on the part of his Royal-
Highness the Commander-in-Chief; and Mr. Locker^
Secretary to Greenwich Hospital, on behalf of the-
three surviving sisters of the deceased.** --i From news-
paper of which the name and date have not been pre-
served.
G. C,.
With many tbanks for the obliging replies ta
my Query for information concerning this gentle-
man, I would desire to repeat it in a more specific
form. Can none of your readers inform me
whether there do not remain papers, &c. of or
concerning Major Andre, which might without
impropriety be at this late day given to the world r
ana if so, by what means access could be had
thereto? Are there none such in the British
Museum, or in the Stale Paper Offices P My name
and address are placed with the Editor of thia
journal, at the service of any correspondent wha
may prefer to communicate with me privately.
SfiBVI£N8>
Major Andre occupied Dr. Franklin*s house
when the British army was in Philadelphia in 1777
and 1778. When it evacuated the city, Andre
carried off with him a portrait of the Doctor^
which has never been heard of since. The British
officers amused themselves with amateur thea-
tricals at the South Street Theatre in Southwark^
then the only one in Philadelphia, theatres being
prohibited in the city. The tradition here is^
that Andre painted the scenes. They were de*
r
Bxo. 31. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
645
^oyed with the theatre by fire about thirty-two
jrears ago. M. E.
- Philadelphia.
FASSAGE IN WHISTON.
(Vol. viii., pp. 244. 397.)
The book for which J. T. inquires is ;
** The Important Doctrines of Original Sin, Justifi-
eation by Faith and Regeneration, clearly stated from
Scripture and Reason, and vindicated from the Doc-
trines of the Methodists; with Remarks on Mr. Law*s
kte Tract on New Birth. By Thomas Whiston, A.B.
Printed for John Whiston, at the Boyle's Head, Fleet
Street. Pp. 70."
• I do not know who the author was. Perhaps a
son of the celebrated Willidm Whiston, six of
whose works are advertised on the back of the title-
page ; and whose Memoirs^ Lond. 1749, are "sold
by Mr. Whiston in Fleet Street." If the passage
cit«d by J. T. is all that Taylor says of Thomas
Whiston, it [conveys an erroneous notion of his
pamphlet, which from pp. 49. to 70. is occupied by
the question of regeneration. I think his doctrine
may be shortly stated thus : Regeneration accom-
panies the baptism of adults, and follows that of
infants. In the latter case, the time is uncertain ;
but the fact is ascertainable by the recipients be-
coming spiritually minded.
Afterwards he says :
<* I cannot dismiss this subject without observing
•another sense of regeneration in the Gospel. However,
this makes no alteration in the doctrine I have before
established; because, with us, regeneration and new birth
are terms that bear the same exact meaning. What I
before delivered of the spiritual new birth or regenera-
tion is strictly true, though the word regeneration is
sometimes used in another sense. It is not to be there
understood of a spiritual or figurative birth, but of a
literal and actual revival of the body from corruption.
But this is not that new birth we have before inquired
after, but only the assured and certain consequence of
our preserving ourselves to the end in that spiritual
state or birth we have entered into in this world. That
I do not represent the sense of the word regeneration
unfairly, may be gathered from Matt. xix. 28., rightly
pointed and distinguished :
** * And Jesus said unto them. Verily T say unto you,
that ye which have followed me (in the regeneration,
when the Son of Man shall sit upon the throne of his
glory), ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging
the twelve tribes of Israel.* Here regeneration is not
to he understood in the same sense as the new birth or
reptneration mentioned by our Saviour (John iii.), from
whence the new birth is to be derived and stated ; but,
as I before observed, must be referred to a literal
restoration to life, i. e. either to the general resurrec-
tion, or rather to the Millennium, when Christ is to
reign upon earth over the Saints for a thousand years,
after the dissolution of the present form of it. 1 make
no doubt that this latter opinion is the genuine sense
of the text I have quoted from St. Matthew : and con-
sequently, that regeneration, in this passage, is to be
applied to the first resurrection of the dead, or to the
supposed Millennium." — Pp. 67, 68.
The above will show that Thomas Whiston did
not ^* maintain that regeneration is a literal and
physical being born again," in the sense which the
passage quoted by J. T. conveys. I have not
seen Taylor's work with the date 1746. As the
name is common, and the pamphlets and sermons
of that time on original sin are mnumerable, many
Taylors may have written besides the one men-
tioned by *A\i€h. J. T.*s Taylor cannot be ex-
cused even on the ground of having read only a
part of the book he misrepresented : for he refers
to p. 68., from which he must have seen that
Thomas Whiston there explained only an isolated
passage. H. B. C.
Garrick Club.
HELMETS.
(Vol. viii., p. 538.)
The following observations upon the helmet, by
Stephen Martin Leake, Esq., Garter, may be ac-
ceptable to your querist S. N.
" The helmet, called galea by the Greeks, cassis by
the Romans, is called helm (which signifies the head)
by the Germans ; whence the French heaume, and our
helmet. It is of great account with the Germans : the
helm and crest deriving their use from tournaments,
whence arras took their origin ; and this being with
them the most essential mark of noblesse, neither the
Germans nor French allow a new made gentleman to
bear a helmet, but only a wreath of his colours ; and
when he is a gentleman of three descents, to bear a
helmet with three barrs for his three descents (Mcnes-
trier, Abrege mSthodique des Armoiries, 1672, p. 28. ;
Origine des Ornemens des Armoiries, p. 2. ). Tgmbre is
the general word used for the casque or helm by the
French. Menestrier, in his Origine des Ornemens des
Armoiries^ p. 1 S., says the modern heralds observe three
things with regard to the tymbre : the matter, the form,
and the situation, lliat kings should have their hel-
mets of gold open, and in full front ; princes and lords
of silver, and somewhat turned with a certain number
of barrs, according to their degree ; gentlemen to have
their helmets of steel, and in profile. Colombiere
assigns a knight a helmet bordered with silver, barons
with gold, counts and viscounts the like, and the barrs
gold ; marquisses the helm same, and damasked with
gold; dukes and princes the gold helmet, damasked.
And as to the barrs, new gentlemen without any ;
gentlemen of three descents, three barrs ; knights
and ancient gentlemen, five ; barons seven ; coimts and
viscounts nine ; marquisses eleven. But Moreau, who
first propagated these inventions ( Origine des Omc"
mens des Armoiries, p. 17.), assigns to an emperor or
king eleven, a prince or duke nine, a marquis and
count seven, a baron five : whence it seems there is no
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[No. 218.
certain rule or uniform practice observed herein, unless
in the situation of the helmet, wherein both the Ger-
mans and French account it more noble to bear an
open helmet than a close one ; but these are novel dis-
tinctions. Anciently, the helmets were all turned to
the right, and close ; and it is but some years since,
says Menestrier {AbrSgS mitkodigve, 1672, p. 28.),
that they began to observe the number of grilles or
barrs, to distinguish the different degrees. But how-
ever ingenious these inventions are, it is certain that
they are useless (as gold and silver helmets would be)
because every rank of nobility is distinguished by the
corouet proper to his degree. Whatever honour may
be attributed to the helmet, the use of it with the aVms
is but modern ; and upon the coins of kings and
sovereign princes, where they are chiefly to be met
with, the helmets are barred, and cither fiiill or in pro«
file, as best suited the occasion ; and upon the Garter
plates of Christian Duke of Brunswick (1625), Gus-
tavns Adolphus King of Sweden (1628), and Charles
Count Palatine of the Rhine (1633 and 1680), they
are full fronted with seven barrs.
" In Great Britain we have but four kinds of hel-
mets, according to the four different degrees in the
state — the king, the nobility, knights, and gentry.
The sovereign helmet full fronted, having seven barrs
or guards, visure without any bever ; the nobilities the
same, but half turned to the right, and usually showing
four barrs ; the knight*s helmet full fronted, with the
bever turned up ; and the gentleman's in profile, the
bever or visor close; using steel helmets for ail aa
the only proper metal for a helmet common to all.
Foreigners ccmdemn us for attributing that helmet to
a knight, which they give to a king ; and more proper,
aays Maekensie, for a king without guard-visure than for
a knight (^Science of Heraldry , p. 87.), because knights
are in danger, and have less need to command. But
it must be observed, the knight's helmet has a visor,
and no barrs ; the sovereign's barrs, because no visor.
And this kind of helmet, with barrs instead of a visor,
seems to have been contrived for princes and great
commanders, who would have been incommoded by
the visor, and too much exposed without anything,
therefore had barrs : whereas knights being, according
to Maekensie, in more danger, and having less need to
command, had their helmet for action ; and are repre-
sented with the bever up, ready to receive the king or
general's command. As to the resemblance of the one
to the other, both being in full front, the connexion
was not anciently so remote as seems at this day.
Knighthood is the first and most ancient military
honour, and therefore at this day sovereign princes and
knights are the only two honours universally acknow-
ledged. Knighthood is the source of all honours, and
of all military glory, and an honour esteemed by and
conferred upon kings ; without which they were here-
tofore thought incomplete, and could not confer that
honour on others, no mure than ordination could be
conferred by one unordalned : so that there was a very
near connexion between sovereignty and knighthood.
And besides, the propriety of the open helmet with a
visor for a knight, and the helmet guard-visure for a
king, the latter is more ornamental, especially if, ac-
cording to the modern practice, the barrs are gold. As
the kmg's hehnet is without a visor, and barred, so is
that of the nobility in imitation of it, but turned to
the right as a proper distinction : as, in like manner,
that of the gentry differs from the knights. As there
are in fact but two orders of men, nobility of which the
king is the first degree, and gentry of which knighta
are the first, so they are by this means sufficiently dis-
tinguished according to their respective orders and
degrees : the first order distinguished by the barred
helmet, the gentry by the visored helmet with proper
differences of the second degrees of each daas firom the
first; and all other distinctions more than thia ar»
unnecessary and useless.
"Tbe helmet does not seem to have been 'formerly
used but in a nrilitary way, and affairs of ehivalry. I
do not find any helmets upon the monuments of our
Kings of England, nor upon other ancient monuments^
nor upon any of the Great Seals, coins^ or medals.
Upon the plates of the Knigbte of the Garter at Windaor.
all degrees used the old profile close helmet till about
1588, some few excepted; and soon after, the hel-
met with barrs came into fashion, and waa used for
all degrees of nobility, and it has continued ever nnet ;
and the same has been used for all degrees of nobility
upon the plates of the Knights of the Bath, those that
are knights only using a knight's helmet And tlw
same may be observed in Sir Edward Walker's Book9
of the Nohffity from the Rettoratiom to the jRevohOwm^
wherein all degrees have the helmet turned towards
the ri|fht, showing fi:>ur barrs; the sovereign's being
fiill with seven bam.**
G.
MAMFDKH S I>BATH.
(Vol. viii., p. 495.)
'*On the 21 St of July, 1828, the corpse of John
Hampden was disinterred by the late Lord Nugent
for the purpose of settling the disputed point of his-
tory aa to the nuinner in which the patriot received
his death -wound. The examination seems to have
been conducted after a somewhat bungling fashion fbr
a scientific object, and the facts disclosed were these :
' On lifting up the right arm we found that it was dis-
possessed of its hand. We might therefore naturally
conjecture that it had been amputated, as the bone
presented a perfectly fiat appearance, as if sawn off by
some sharp instrument. On searching under the
cloths, to our no small astonishment we found the
hand, or rather a number of small bones, inclosed in m
separate cloth. For about six inches up the arm the
flesh had wasted away, being evidently smaller than
the lower part of the left arm, to which the hand was
very firmly united, and which presented no symptoms
of decay further than the two bones of the forefinger
loose. Even the nails remained entire, of which we
saw no appearance in the cloth containing the remains
of the right lumd. . . . The clavicle of the right
shoulder was firmly united to the scapula, nor did there
appear any contusion or indentation that evinced
symptoms of any wound ever having been inflicted.
The left shoulder, on the contrary, was smaller and
sunken in, as if the clavicle had been displaced. To
Dxc. 31. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIE&
647
mmowe all doubts, at was adjudged ncoessar j to remove
the arms, which ware amputated with a penknife (I).
Hie soekct of the left (sici ann was perfectly white
and healthj, and the clavicle firmly united to the
•eapula, nor was there the least appearance of con-
tarion or wound. Hie socket of the rigtit (tic)
dhooldcr, on the contrary, was of a brownish cast, and
Hie elaTiele being fbmid quite loose and disunited from
Am teapala, pro^red that dislocation had taken place.
The bones, however, were quite perfect.' These ap-
ptaranees indicated that injuries bad been received
both iu the hand and shoulder, the former justifying '
the belief in Sir Robert Pye's statement to the Harleys, S
that the pistol which had been presented to him by Sir I
Robert, bis son-in-law, had burst and shattered his
hand in a terrible manner at the action of Chalgrave
Field ; the latter indicating that he bad either been
wounded in the shoulder by a spent ball, or bad re-
Mived an injury there by falling from his horse after
his hand was shattered. Of these wounds he died
three or four days after, according to Sir Philip War-
wick. According to Clarendon, * three weeks after
being shot into the shoulder with a brace of bullets,
which broke the bone.' The bone, however, was not
found broken, and the * brace of bullets ' is equally
imaginary.**
This account is from a newspaper cutting of
The News, August 3, 1828. W. S.
Northiam.
PETER ALLAN.
(Vd. viii., pp. 539. 630.)
Peter Allan deserves more than a brief notice.
His history is so full of romance, the relics of his
name and fame are so many, and he is withal so
UtUe known, that I presume I may on this occasion
trespass on more than the ordinary space allotted
to a "minor," but which should be a "major"
Query.
Peter Allan was born at Selkirk (?) in the year
1798. His parents were peasants, and Peter in
early life became valet to Mr. Williamson, brother
of Sir Hed worth Williamson. He afterwards be-
came gamekeeper to the Marquis of Londonderry,
and in that capacity acquired a reputation as an
unerring shot, and a man of unusual physical
strength and courage. He afterwards married,
and became a publican at Whitburn, and in the
coarse of a few years purchased a little property,
and occupied himself in the superintendence of
dock works and stone quarries. In this latter
capacity he acquired the skill in quarrying, on
which his fame chiefly rests. Having a turn for
a romantic life, he conceived the strange project
of founding a colony at Marsden, a wild, rocky
bay below the mouth of the Tyne, five miles from
Sunderland, and three from South Shields. The
spot chosen by Peter as his future home had been
colonised some years before by one "Jack the
Blaster," who had performed a series of exca-
vations, and amongst them a huge round per-
foration from the high land above to the beach
below, through which it is said many a cargo hat
passed ashore without being entered in the booka
of the excise. Here the cliff is formed of hard
magnesian limestone, and rises perpendicularij
from the beach more than a hundred feet. When
Peter set to work, the only habitable portiona
were two wild caves opening to the sea, into
which at high tide the breakers tumbled, and
where during rough weather it was impossible ta
continue with safety. On the face of the rock
Peter built a homestead of timber, and set up a
farm and tavern. In the rock itself he excavated
fifteen rooms, to each of which he gave an appro-
priate name ; the most interesting are the " Gaol
Room," the "Devil's Chamber,^ the "Circular
Room," the "Dining Room," and the **Ball
Room." The height of the entire excavation ia
twenty feet, its oreadth thirty, and its length,,
from the ball room to the cottage, one hundred
and twenty. Several parts of the cave are lighted
by windows hewn in the face of the rock, and
these give the cave a picturesque appearance as
viewed from the beach below. In addition to
these labours, Peter took possession of a huM
table-rock, which stands some distance from the-
cliffs opposite to the grotto. By dint of extraor-
dinary exertions he excavated a passage from the
land side of this rock through its substance to the
surface, and by placing scahng ladders against it a
face, made provision for ascent and descent at
high water. The three-quarters of an acre of
surface he colonised with rabbits, and built a ahantjr
for himself and companions, where they dwelt for
some time thinning the wild fowl with Uieir deadly
shots, and raising many an echo with their shoota
of revelry.
To describe the strange scene presented by the
grotto itself, the farm-buildings on the face of the
cliff, the huge table-rock and flagstaff, the many
quaint blocks, pillars, and wild escarpments, and
the numerous domestic animals, such as mastiffs^
pigs, ravens, and goats, all congregated together
in a small bay, and literally separated from the
world by the barren waste land above, and the
huge cliffs and restless sea below, would be be-
yond the scope of " N. & Q.," though it is worth
a note in passing, that for the tourist a visit to
Marsden would be highly remunerative.
Peter Allan endured many hardships in his cave
at Marsden. He was accused of smu^ling, and
annoyed by the excise. He and his family were
once shut in for six weeks by the snow, during'
the whole of which time it was impossible for any
human being to approach them. Yet in spite of
many hardships, reter reared in the grotto a
family of eight children, three daughters and five
sons, all of whom are living and prospering in the
world. The grotto is still kept by his widow, hia
618
NOTES AND QUERIE&
[Na 218.
eldest son William, and one daughter, nsststin);
Mrs. Allan in the management. The son William
Is nn experienced hlnster, and occnpies himself in
excavations and improvements ; the daughter, a
brunette, is a first-rate shot, and a girl of extraor-
dinarj spirit and gaiety. She is the Grace Dar-
ling of the neighbourhood, and hoth her and her
mother have saved roanj lives bj thcu: dexterity
In boating and extrnordinarv courage. Peter
bimself was a hold, determined, and honest man,
fond of a joke, and passionately devoted to bees,
birds, pigs, and dogs, many of whom (pigs espe-
cially) used to follow him to Shields and Sunder-
land, when he went thither. After twenty-two
years' possession of the caverns, the proprietor of
the adjoinin" land served him with a process of
ejectment ; Feter refused to leave the habitation
which he had formed by twenty years' unremitting
toil, and which he had actually won from the sea,
without encroachment on an inch of the mainland.
After a tedious law-suit, judgment was given in
his favour, but he had to pay costs. The anxieties
of this lawsuit broke his heart, and he never re-
covered either health or spirila. Ue died on the
31st of August, 1849, in the 51st year of his a^e,
leaving his wife and eight children to lament him.
He waa buried in Whitburn churchyard, and
over his grave was placed a stone with tlie in-
scription :
" The Lord is my rock and my saWalion."
Numerous memorials of Feter exist at the grotto,
and in the neJglibouihood of Marsden. Particu-
lars of these and other matters touching this TO-
mantie history, may be obtained in No. 2. of
Summer Eicurtiona to (he North, published by
Ward, of Newca.>tle ; and in a paper entitled A
Vitit to Maraden Rocks, contributed by myself to
the People's lUwtraied Journal, No. XlV.
Shibui Uidbbbd.
(Vol. viii., pp. 127. 180. 422.)
I think that your well-read correspondent J.
W. Thomas will anroe wilh me that the bondjide
authorship of the beautiful lines alluded to must
be ascertained, not by a single expression, hut by
the whole of the charming poem. The striking ex-
pression of Mohammed, quoted by J. W. Tbomas,
IS quite common amongst the Easterns even at
the present day. 1 remember, when at Blalta, in
2larcb, 1848, whilst walking in company of the
most accomplished Arabian of the day, the con-
versation turned upon a certain individual who
had since acquired a most unenviable notoriety in
the annals of British jurisprudence, my companion
abruDtly turned upon me, whilst at the shove of
the Mediterranean, and said, in bis fascinating
Arabic, " Behold this creat sea I were all Eta water
turned into ink, it would be insufficient to describe
the villany of the individual you speak of."
Rabbi nlajir ben Isaac's poem corresponds not
merely in a single expression, but in every one
The Chaldee hymn has the ink and ocean, parch-
ment and heavens, stalks and quills, mankind and
scribes, &c. Pray do me the favour to insert the
originij lines. I assure you that they are well
worthy of a place in " N. & Q." Here they are :
: Krue'nB pao kSi rr^ I'p^y iTiai
: Nn^ei'M 'd hy\ 's.' (it* ^'"1
MotBS MABOOUorTH.
Wyh anbury.
In the Det Knobtn WunderXom there is some-
tliing of the same idea, though not quite to the
same purpose :
" Und wenn ilcr Hlramel pspyrige wiir,
Und e jeds Sterne Schryber wiir,
Und jtdere Sclirjber hat siebesicbe Hand,
£i schricbe doch alii mir Liebi Knead!
Ducsli und Bsbeli."
G. H. R.
WHAT DAT IB IT AT OUB AMTIPODBS F
(Vol. viii., p. 102.)
This question was asked by H., and at p. 479.
an nnswei- to it was undertaken by Ebtb. But,
probably from over-anxiety to be very brief, Esrs
was betrayed into a most strange and unaccountable
misstatement, which ousht to be set right before
the condusioQ of the volume ; since, if correctness
be generally desirable in all communications to
" NT & Q.," it is absolutely indispensable in pro-
fessed answers to required information. Ests
" A person sailing to out Antipodes westward will
lose twelve liours ; by sailing thither eastward he wilt
gain twelve hours."
This is quite correct. But if one person lose
twelve, and another gain twelve, the manifest dif-
ference between them is twenty-four ; and jet
Ebtb goes on to say :
" If bath meet together >t the same hour, say eleven
o'clock, the one will reckon II a.m., the other 11 r.jt"
This is the misstatement. No two persons, by
any correct system of reckoning, could arrive at
a result which would imply a physical impossi-
bility; and it is needless to say that the concur-
rence ofA.u. and P.M. at the same time and place
would come under that designation. What Ksrs
should have said is, that &th persons meetbg
Dec. 31. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
649
together on the same daj, if it be reckoned Mon-
day by the one, it will be reckoned Tuesday by
the other. They may differ as to Monday or
Tuesday, but they cannot rationally differ as to
whether it is day or night.
It may be added that, no matter where these
two persons might meet, whether at the Antipodes
or at any other place, still, upon comparing their
journals, there would always appear a day's dif-
ference between them ; and if they were to keep
continually sailing on, one always towards the
west, and the other always towards the east, every
time they might meet or cross each other, they
would increase the difference between them by an
additional day.
Whence it follows, that if two ships were to
lieave England on the same day, one sailing east
by the Cape of Good Hope, and the other west by
Cape Horn, returning home respectively by the
opposite capes ; and if both were to arrive again
in England at the same time, there would be
found in the reckoning of the eastern vessel two
entire days more than in that of the western
vessel. Nor would this difference be merely
theoretic or imaginary ; on the contrary, it would
be a real and substantial gain on the part of the
eastern vessel : her crew would have consumed
two whole rations of breakfast, dinner, and supper,
and swallowed two days' allowance of grog more
than the other crew ; and they would have en-
joyed two nights more sleep.
But all this is not an answer to H.'s question ;
what he wants to know is whether the day at the
Antipodes is twelve hours in advance or in arrear
of our day ? and, whichever it is, why is it ?
But here H. is not sufficiently explicit. His
question relates to a practical fact, and therefore
he should have been more particular in designating
the exact habitable place to which it referred.
Our Antipodes, strictly speaking, or rather the
antipodal point to Greenwich Observatory, is 180®
of east (or west) longitude, and 51° 28' &c. of
south latitude. But this is not the only point
that differs by exactly twelve hours in time from
Greenwich ; all places lying beneath the meridian
of 180°, "our Periseci" as well as "our Anti-
podes," are similarly affected, and to them the
same question would be applicable. H. is right,
however, in assuming that, with respect to that
meridian, the decision must be purely arbitrary.
It is as though two men were to keep moving
round a circle in the same direction, with the
same speed, and at diametrically opposite points ;
it must be an arbitrary decision which would pro-
nounce that either was in advance, or in arrear, of
the other.
Kegarding, then, the meridian of 180° as the
neutral pointy the most rational system, so far as
British settlements are concerned, is to reckon
longitude both ways, from 0° to 180°, east and
west from Greenwich; and to regard all west
longitude as in arrear of British time, and all east
longitude as in advance of it. And this is the
method practised by modern navigators.
It is not, however, in obedience to any precon-
ceived system, but by pure accident, that our
settlements in Australia and New Zealand happen
to be in accordance with this rule. The last-
named country is very close upon the verge of
eastern longitude, but still it is within it, and its
day is rightly in advance of our day. But the
first settlers to Botany Bay, in 1788, were actually
! under orders to go out by Cape Horn, and were
only forced by stress of weather to adopt the op-
posite course by the Cape of Good Hope. Had
they kept to their prescribed route, there cannot
be a doubt that the day of the week and month
in Australia would now be a day later than it is.
The best proof of the truth of this assertion is,
that a few years afterwards a missionary expe-
dition was sent out to Otaheite, with respect to
which a precisely similar accident occurred ; they
could not weather Cape Horn, and were forced to
go round, some twice the distance out of their
way, by the Cape of Good Hope ; consequently
they carried with them what may be called the
eastern day, and since then that is the day ob-
served at Otaheite, although fully two hours
within the western limit of longitude.
From this cause an actual practical anomaly
has recently arisen. The French authorities in
Tahiti, in accordance with the before-mentioned
rule, have arranged their day by western longitude ;
consequently, in addition to other points of dis-
sent, they observe the Sabbath and other festivals
one day later than the resident English mis-
sionaries.
I have extended this explanation to a greater
length than I intended, but the subject is interest-
ing, and not generally well understood ; to do it
justice, therefore, is not compatible with brevity.
Much of what I have said is doubtless already
known to your readers ; nevertheless I hope it may
be useful in affording to H. the information he
required, and to Este more fixed notions on the
subject than he seems to have entertained when
he wrote the answer referred to. A. E. B.
Leeds.
PHOTOGBAPHIC COBBESFONDENCE.
AeetO'Nitrate of Silver. — I have collected together
several ounces of aceto-nitrate of silver that has been
used to excite waxed paper (iodized by Mr. Crookbs'
method), and should be glad to know whether it can
be used again for the same purpose.
John Leachman.
[The aceto-nitrate may be used, but in our own
practice we do not do so. It is apt to give an un-
pleasant brownish colour. The solutions of silver.
650
NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 218.
whether used for albumenising or othenrise, being re-
duced to a state of chloride by the addition of common
salt so loi^ as any precipitate is formed : fine siWer
may then be readily obtained by heating a crucible,
the chloride consisting of three-fourths of pure metal.
It is a false economy to use dirty or doubtful solutions,
and by adopting the above course the pecuniary loss is
very trifling. Our ordinary stoves will not always give
a sufficient heat, but any working jeweller or chemist
having the ordinary furnace would accomplish it.]
On the ReMUraHon of aid CdOodion, — Many plans
have been suggested finr the restoration of collodion
when it has lost its sensitiveness by age. In the last
Number of the Phatograpkie Journal, p. 147., Ma.
CaooKBs proposes *'to remove the free iodine from
the oollodion by means of a piece of pure silver. For
• two ounces of liquid I should recommend a sheet of
stout silver foil, about two inches long and half an inch
broad It will require to remain in contact with the
oollodion for about two days, or even longer if the
latter be very dark-coloured ; and in this case it will
sometimes be found advantageous to clean the surface
of the silver, as it becomes protected with a coating of
iodide, by means of cyanide of potassium or hypo-
sulphite of soda.
*< When thus renovated, the collodion will be found
as sensitive and good as it was ortgimUly.**
This plan is certainly more simple than any that has
yet been recommended. The action of the silver being
its mere combination with the free iodine, thereby pro-
dueuig the reduction of the eaWoduml to its original
oolouiiess condition, I would venture to put this ques-
tion to Ma. CaooKKS (to whom the readers of ** N. &
Q," are already under great obligations): Does he
consider that it is the mere presence of free iodine
which causes the want of sensitiveness in the collo-
dion ? This is all which appears to be accomplished
by the process which Mr. Ckookes recommends.
Now, as one who has had some experience, both in
the manu&cture and uses of collodion, such a view does
not agree with my practice and observation. Occa-
sionally, upon sensitising collodion, I have Ibund it
assume a deep sherry colour a few hours after being
made. This must have depended upon the free iodide
it contained, and yet such collodion has worked most
admirably. I have now before me a large body of
collodion almost red, and which has been made some
three or four months; yet the last time I used this,
about a week since, it was just as good as when it was
first made. Undoubtedly collodion does more or less
deteriorate with age ; but here I would observe, that
there is an immense difference in the different manu-
factures of collodion, and which can be ascertained by
use only, and not by appearance.
But Mr. Hennah, who has had much practical expe-
rience, recommends the collodion to be made sensitive
merely by the iodide of potassium ; and he said, ** if it
did not work quite clearly and well, a little tincture of
iodine brought it right** Here, then, is added the
very thing which Mr. Crookes proposes to abstract.
Again, Mr. Crookes conuders the free iodine to be
the cause of the colouring of the collodion; will be
then kindly explain its moduM operandi f
As he has on several occasions giveo your readers
the benefit of his great chemical knowledge, I trust
they may be favoured by him with a solution of these
difficulties, which have puzzled Am Amatbur.
WitplM to fRfaat ^vaviti.
AdmisnoTis to Itms of Court (Yol. viii^ p. 540.).
— The following particulars ma^ be of service
to your correspondent who reouires information
upon the subject of the matriculations at the inns
of court
The books of Lincoln's Inn, wbich record the
calls to the bar and other proceedings of the
Societj, conmience in the second jear of the
reign of Henry YL, 1423. Those of the Inner
Temple, which contain the admittances in 1547^
and the calls to the bar in 1590 ; of the Middle
Temple, which contain a r^;ular series of ad*
missions and calls, about the year 1600 ; and of
Gray's Inn, about the year 1650. The earlier
records of Gray's Inn were destroyed by fire, but
the Harleian MS. No. 1912., m the British Mu-
senm, contains :
An alphabetical list of gentlemen admitted to
that society, with the dates of their admission,
from 1521 to 1674.
Table of the admittances into Gray's Inn, de-
claring the names of the gentlemen, the town and
country whence they came, and the day, month,
and year when admitted, from the year 1626 to
1677.
Arms and names of noblemen and knights ad-
mitted to the said society.
An alphabetical list of all persons called to the
bar by the said society.
The Lansdowne MS. No. 106., whiek is also
in the British Museum, contains :
Names of benchers, associates, utter barristers,
&c. of Lincoln's Inn, and the same of the Inner
Temple ; and of the students of the several Inns
of Court, apparently about the end of the reign of
Elizabeth. Jas. Whimu.w.
Grower Street.
The MS. Harl. 1912. contains die admissions to
Gray's Inn. G. Steinman Stkinman.
Inedited Lyric by Felicia JSemani (Vol. viii.,
p. 629.) — A surviving relative of the authoress
in question begs to answer to the correspondent
of " N. & Q." who has produced this lyric from
an imperfect MS. original, that the piece has not
remained inedited, but is to be found in the
several complete editions of Mrs. Hemans's works
published by Blackwood. The playful signature
of the letter alluded to, as well as the subject of
the lyric, it may be added, was suggested by some
conversation respecting the fanciful creatures of
Dec. 31. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
6S1
fiiirj'luH), with whose ideal qneen the anthoresa
l^ieetcd BportiTelj to ideutifj herself, and hence
^gned the little poem, produced rather u m jm
tTe^pnt Ihui aorthiog el»e, " M^b." In its Bub-
aeguentlj coirected form, aa admitted in the
editioiu of her worka, it is here subjoined :
Water Lilia : A Fairy Song.
" Come maj. Elves ! wbile the dew ii sweet,
Come to the dingles irhere fairies meeti
Know that the lilies ha<re ipread their l>e]ls
O'er ill tlie pouU in our foreit dells ;
SHlIf uml lightly their TBses rest
On the quitering sleep or tbe water's breast,
Cileliing the lunihine through the learti that throw
To tbeir scented bosoms an emerald glow ;
And a star from the depths of each paarlf eup,
A golden star, nnlo lieav'n looks up.
As if seeking its kindred where bright the; lie.
Set in the bine of the sitminer sky.
Come away, under arching boughs well float,
Making those um> each a fairy host j
We'll row them with reeds o'er the founUins free.
And a tall flag-leaf shall our streamer be.
And we'll send out wild music so sweet aud low.
It shall seem from the bright flower's heart to flow ;
As if Hwsie a breeie with a flute's low sigh,
Ot water-drops trein'd into melody.
And the life of (he
It be long."
Derioatioa of Britain (Vol. tIU., p. 344.).—
Since my Uat reference to this matter (Vol, Tiii.,
p. 445.) I find that tbe derivation of tbe name of
BTitain from Band-anach or Brat-anaeh, a land
of tin, originated in conjecture with Bocbitrt, an
oriental scholar and French protestant dirine in
the first half of the seventeenth century. It cer-
tunly is a very remarkable circumstance that the
conjecture of a Frenchmdn as to the origin of the
aaiae of Brittdn sbould hare been so curiously
confirmed, as has been shown by Dr. Hincks,
through an Assyrian medium. G. W.
Stansted, MontBcbet.
Derivatim of ike Word CeU (Vol. Tiii., p. 271.).
— If C, R. M. has access to a copy of the Latin
Vulgate, he will find the word which our transla-
tors have rendered "an iron pen," in tbe book of
Job, chap. xix. v. 24., there translated CelU. Not
luving Uie book in my possession, I will not pre*
tend to give the verse as a quotation.*
T. B. B. H.
" Kaminngadeifatkoorooaaomoianongonagira "
(Tol. viii., p. 539.). — I happen to have by me
a transcript of the record in which this word oc-
curs; and it is followed iminediately by another
almost eqaally astounding, which F. J. U. should,
I think, have asked one of your eorretpondents
to translate while about the other. The ft^w-
mg is the word : Aradtmaravaaadeloorxtradaoym.
They both nppear to be names of estates. H. M.
Peckham.
CciA (Vol. viii., pp. 386.524.). — In Tke Ad-
venturei of the Oooroo Paramarlcm, a tale in the
Tamul language, accompanied by a tronslatioii
and a vocabuUry, &c., by fienjamin BaUngton,
London, 1822, is the fc^owing : " Fuuun or casoo
is unnecewary, I gWe it to you gratia." To which
the translator iubjoins: "The latter word ia
usuallr pronounced etuk by Europeans, but the
Tamul orthography is used in tbe text, that th«
reader may not mistake it for an English word."
" Christ ouiB-boiBB are said to he an ancient custom
here, and I would almost faacy that our name of box
ibr thii particular kind of present, the deriTSliou of
which is not very easy to trace in the European lan-
guages, is a corruption otinckihith, a gift or gratuity,
in Turkish, Persian, and HindoosUnee. There bave
been undoubtedly more words brought into our Uii>
guage from tbe East than I used to luspect. Cmk,
which Itcre means small monej', is one of these : but of
the process of such transplantation I can fbrm no cou-
Jecture." — Heber's Narratioe of a Jaanug iknugh Ma
Vpprr Pminea of India, toL i. p. 52.
Angelo, in his Oazophylaeenm Linguis Permrain,
gives a Persian word of the same signification and
sound, as Italic^ eatta, hatiai eapta, Gallic^ caitu.
BiBLIOTBECAK. CbBTBUI.
" Antigiiitai Saculi Juventiu Mundi" (VoLviii.,
p. 302., &c.). — The authority of Fuller ought, I
think, to be sufficient to establish that this saying
was Bacon's own, and not a quotation.
Fuller thus introduces it: "As one excellently
observes, 'Antiqnitassiecnlijuventus mundi,'" &c.,
■ ■ of tl
Sir Frances Bacon's Advancement of Ltamiiig
(Holy and Profane Stale, ch. vi.). E. S. T. T.
Caves at SelOe, Yorkikire (Vol. Tiii., p, 412.).—
Bbioantu, will find a Tery circumstantial uid
intercatiniT account of these caves, and their
Romano- British contents, in vol. i. of Mr, Boach
Smith's Collectanea. G. J. Db Wiu>b.
Character of the Song of the Nightii^ale
(Vol. Tii,, p. 397. ; Vol. viii., pp. 112. 475.),— One
poet, not so well known as he deserves, has escaped
the observation of those who have contributed to
your valuable pages the one hundred and seventy-
five epithets which others of his craft have ap-
plied to tbe " Midnight Minstrel." I allude to
the Rev. F, W. Faber, in bis poem of tbe ChervxB
Water Lily. This poem has now become icaree,
90 I send you the lines to which I refer, as the
of epithets" which they contain, as
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NOTES AND QUERIES-
[No. 218.
monks of Okeburj a release of suit and senrice
within his manor of Waliingford, which charter
has a seal appended bearing an impress of the earl
armed on horseback, with a lion rampant crowned
on his surcoat, inscribed " Sigillum Richardi
Comitis CornubifB." Now this inscription seems
to identify the lion as pertaining to the earldom
of Cornwall ; surelj, if the bezants represented this
earldom, they would not have been omitted on his
seal as Comes ComuhitB,
Again, a very high heraldic anthoritjr, one of
deep research, Mr. JTR. Planch^ gives this opinion
on the subject :
** The border bezantde, or talent^e, of Richard, King
of the Romans, is no representation of coins but qf
peas (/KHx), being the arms of Poitiers or Poictou
(Menestrier, Orig,t p. 147.)* of which be was earl, and
not of his other earldom of Cornwall, as imagined by
Sandlbrd and others. The adoption of besants as the
arms of Cornwall, and by so many Cornish families on
that account, are all subsequent assumptions derired
from the arms of Earl Richard aforesaid, the peas
having been promoted into besants by being gilt, and
become identiBed with the Cornish escutcheon as the
garbs of Blundeville are with that of Chester, or the
coat of Cantelupe with that of the see of Hereford.** —
Tke Pursuivant at Arms, p. 136.
A simple Query then would seem to settle this
matter. Is any instance known of bezants occur-
ring^ as the arms of Cornwall prerious to the time
of Earl Richard, or earlier than the commence-
ment of the thirteenth century P Nojutis Deck.
Cambridge.
Cheek and Roman Fortifications (Vol. viii.,
p. 469.). — J. H. J. will find some information on
this subject in Fosbroke*s Chrecian and Roman
JjUiquities (Longman, 1833). John Sckibb.
Osbemus JUius Herfasti (Vol. viii., p. 515.). —
In reply to the Query of Mr. Savsom, " Whether
Osborn de Crespon, the brother of the Duchess of
Normandy, had a brother of the same name ? •* I
beg to reply that there appears to be distinct evi-
dence that he had; for m a grant of* lands by
Richard II., Duke of Normandy, who died in
1026, to the monks of St Michael, there are,
along with the signatures of his son Richard and
several other witnesses, those of Osbemus /rater
Comitiss€R, and Osbernus filius Arfast {Lobineatiy
torn. ii. p. 97.). One of those may probably have
become Abbot of S. E vroult. No doubt Mr. San-
80M is well aware that one of the same family was
Osborn, Bishop of Exeter. He was a son of
Osborn de Crespon, and brother of the Earl of
Hereford, premier peer of England. In 1066 he
forbad the monks to be buried in the cloisters of
their monasteries ; but thev resisted his injunction,
and, on an appeal to the Tope, obtained a decision
against him {mabillon). For an eulogtum on him
see Grodwin, De presuL AngL He died in 1104,
and was buried in the cathedral at Exeter.
I would observe that the ancient orthography of
the name is Osbern, which was continued for
many centuries, and may even now be seen ia
Maidwell Church, Northamptonshire, on the mo-
nument of Lady Gorges, the daughter of Sir John
Osbern, who died in 1633. Omicron.
I think there can be little doubt that Herfastus
** the Dane " was the father of Gunnora, wife of
Rich. I., Duke of Normandy ; of Aveline, wife of
Osbemus de Bolebec, Lord of Bolbec and Count
of Longueville ; and of Wcira, wife of Turolf de
Pont Audomere. The brother of these three sla-
ters was another Herfastus, Abbot of St. Evrau ;
who was the father of Osbernus de Crepon,
Steward of the Household, and Sewer to the Con-
queror. H. C« CI
Dewmianisms (VoL viii., p. 65.). — Your dwr-
respondcnt Mr. Keys is at a loss for the origin of
the word plum^ as used in Devonshire. Surely it
is the same word as plump, although employed in
a somewhat different sense. Plum or plump^ as
applied to a bed, would certainly convey the idea
of softness or downiness. As to the employment
of the word as a verb, I conceive that it is analo-
gous to an expression which I have often beard
used by cooks, in speaking of meat or poultry,
" to plump up." A cook will say of a fowl whidi
appears deficient in flesh, " It is a young bird ; it
will plump up when it comes to the fire.** A
native of Devonshii'e would simply say, ^* It will
plum."
As to the word dunk, it is in use throughout
Cornwall in the sense of " to swallow," and is un-
doubtedly Celtic. On referring to Le Gonidec*s
Dictionnaire Celto-Breton, I find ^^XonAo, or
LouMkot v.a. avaler.^*
1 have neither a Welsh dictionary nor one of
the ancient Cornish language at hand, but I have
no doubt that the same word, with the same sig-
nification, will be found in both those dialects
of Uie Celtic, probably with some difierenoe of
spelling, which would bring it nearer to the word
dunk.
It is not wonderful that a word, the sound of
which is so expressive of the action, should have
continued in use among an illiterate peasantry
long after the language from which it is derived
was forgotten ; but many pure Celtic words, whidi
have not this recommendation, are still in common
use in Cornwall, and a collection of them would
be highly interesting. Could not some of your
antiquarian correspondents in the west, Mb.
BoASE of Penzance for example, furnish such a
list ? I will mention one or two words which I
chance to remember : mabyer, a chicken, Breton
mab, a son, tor, a hen ; veam, little, Br^on vihasL
Bkc. 31, 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
653
ahrajs sufficiently describe it. If Bboctuna,
bowerer, be a practical herald, he must often hare
experienced the difficulty of placing impalements
<jr qoarterings correctly, even on a lozenge. On
tlie long and narrow fusil it would be impossible.
When the fusil, instead of being a mere heraldic
bearing, has to be used as the shape of a shield for
the actual use of the painter or engraver, it must
of necessity be widened into the lozenge ; and as
the latter is probably only the same distaff with a
Uttle more wool upon it, there seems no objection
to the arrangement. Bboctuma is too good an
antiquary not to know on recollection that the
•* Yymgs of widows " had little to do with funeral
arrangements in those days. Procrustes, the
herald, came down at all great funerals, and re-
gulated everything with just so much pomp, and
no more, as the precise rank of the deceased en-
titled him to.
P. P. had not the smallest intention of giving
Bboctuna offence by pointing out what seems a
fatal objection to his theory.
Hugh Clark, a well-known modern writer upon
Heraldry, gives the following definition of the
word lozenge :
" Lozenge, a four-cornered figure, resembling a pane
of glass in old casements : some suppose it a physical
composition given for colds, and was invented to re-
ward eminent physicians."
Hutarch jsays, in the Life of Theseus, that at
Megara, an ancient town of Greece, the tomb-
stones, under which the bodies of the Amazons lay,
were shaped after that form, which some con-
jecture to be the cause why ladies have their arms
on lozenges. Kubt.
The Crescent (Vol. viii., p. 319.). — Be so good
as to insert in " N. & Q.," for the information of
J. W. Thomas, that the Iceni (a people of Eng-
land, whose territory consisted of the counties of
Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex, &c.) struck coins both in
gold and silver ; having on their reverses crescents
placed back to back generally, except where a
mde profile is on a few of them.
Two of the gold coins have fallen into my pos-
session ; one of which, found at Oxnead in this
county, I supplied to the British Museum some
years since. Twelve of the silver coins are
figured on a plate in Part LVH. of the Numis-
matic Chronicle. Mb. Thomas observing (at
p. 321.) he has no work on numismatics, induces
me to make this communication to him through
your very useful and instructive publication.
GoDDABD Johnson.
Norfolk.
Abigail (Vol. iy., p. 424. ; Vol. v., pp. 38. 94.
450.). — The inquiry suggested in the first of the
above references, *' Whence, or when, originated
the application of Abigail, as applied to a lady's
maid ? has not yet, to my mind, been satisfac-
torily answered. It occurs to me that it may have
been derived from the notorious Abigail Hill^
better known as Mrs. Masham, a poor relative of
Sarah Duchess of Marlborough, and by her intro-
duced to a subordinate place about the person of
Queen Anne. She rapidly acquired suflicient in-
fluence to supplant her benefactress. The intrigues
of the Tory party received sufficient furtherance
from this bedchamber official to effect ultimately
the downfall of the Whig ministry ; and the use
of the term by Dean Swift, of which your original
Querist Mb. Wabden speaks, would suffice to
give currency and to associate the name of so
famous an intriguante with the office which she
filled. It must be matter of opinion whether the
Dean (as Mb. W. thinks) employed the term as
not new in those days, or as one which had taken
so rapidly in the current conversation of the day,
as to require but his putting it in print to esta-
blish it in its new sense so long as the language
shall be spoken or written. Balijolensis.
Handbook to the Library of the British Museum
(Vol. viii., p. 511.). — Neither Lord Seymour, nor
Mb. Bolton Cobnet, nor Mr. Bichard Sims, can
with justice claim originality in the suggestion
carried out by the latter gentleman in the pub-
lication of his Handbook to the Library of the
British Museum.
In my own collection is a book entitled, —
** A Critical and Historical Account of all the cele-
brated Libraries in Foreign Countries, as well ancient
as modern, with general Reflections on the choice of
Books,'* &c. . . '* A work of great use to all men
of letters. By a Gentleman of the Temple. London,
printed for J. Jolliffe, in St. James's Street, mdccxxxxx."
In the preface to which work the author says :
** It will be highly useful to such noblemen and
gentlemen as visit foreign countries, by instructing
them in the manner of perusing whatever is curious in the
Vatican and other famous libraries.^*
And in which he promises that —
" If it should meet with the approbation of the public^
he (the author) will proceed with the libraries of these
kingdoms,** &c.
F. Setmoub Hadex.
Chelsea.
The Arms of Richard, King of the Romans
(Vol. viii., pp. 265. 454.). — With every respect
for such heraldic authorities as Mb. Gough and
Mb. Loveb, I think the question as to whether
the so-called bezants in the arms of Richard,
King of the Bomans, referred to his earldom of
Poictou or of Cornwall, inclines in favour of the
former : for instance, in 1253 he granted to the
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NOTES AND QUERIES.
[No. 218.
monks of Okebarj a release of suit and service
within his manor of Wallingford, which charter
has a seal appended bearing an impress of the earl
armed on horseback, with a lion rampant crowned
on his surcoat, inscribed ^* Sigillum Richardi
Comitis Cornubise." Now this inscription seems
to identify the lion as pertaining to the earldom
of Cornwall ; surely, if the bezants represented this
earldom, they would not have been omitted on his
seal as Comes Comubia.
Again, a very high heraldic authority, one of
deep research, Mr. JTR. Planche, gives this opinion
on the subject :
** The border bezantee, or talent^e, of Richard, King
of the Romans, is no representation of coins but ^f
peas (/K>tx), being the arms of Poitiers or Poietou
(Menestrier, Orig,, p. 147.), of which be was earl, and
not of his other earldom of Cornwall, as imagined by
Sandlbrd and others. The adoption of besants as the
arms of Cornwall, and by so many Cornish families on
that account, are all subsequent assumptions derived
from the arms of Earl Richard aforesaid, the peas
having been promoted into besants by being gilt, and
become identi6ed with the Cornish escutcheon as the
garbs of Blundeville are with that of Chester, or the
coat of Cantelupe with that of the see of Hereford.** —
7%e Pursuivant at Arms, p. 136.
A simple Query then would seem to settle this
matter. Is any instance known of bezants occur-
ring as the arms of Cornwall previous to the time
of Earl Richard, or earlier than the commence-
ment of the thirteenth century ? Nosbis Deck.
Cambridge.
Cheek and Roman Fortifications (Vol. viii.,
p. 469.). — J. H. J. will find some information on
this subject in Fosbroke*s Checian and Roman
AjUiquities (Longman, 1833). John Scubb.
Oshemus flius Herfasti (Vol. viii., p. 515.). —
In reply to the Query of Mb. Sav som, " Whether
Osborn de Crespon, the brother of the Duchess of
Normandy, had a brother of the same name ? *' I
beg to reply that there appears to be distinct evi-
dence that he had; for m a grant of* lands by
Richard II., Duke of Normandy, who died in
1026, to the nionks of St. Michael, diere are,
along with the signatures of his son Richard and
several other witnesses, those of Oshemus f rater
ComiiissiB^ and Osbemus filius Arfast (^Lobineau,
torn. ii. p. 97.). One of those may probably have
become Abbot of S. EvrouU. Ko doubt Mb. San-
soM is well aware that one of the same family was
Osborn, Bishop of Exeter. He was a son of
Osborn de Crespon, and brother of the Earl of
Hereford, premier peer of England. In 1066 he
forbad the monks to be buried in the cloisters of
their monasteries ; but they resisted his injunction,
and, on an appeal to the Pope, obtained a decision
against him {Mabillon), For an eulogium on him
see Grodwin, De presul. AngL He died in 1104,
and was buried in the cathedral at Exeter.
I would observe that the ancient orthography of
the name is Osbern, which was continued fat
many centuries, and may even now be seen in
Maidwell Church, Northamptonshire, on the mo-
nument of Lady Gorges, the daughter of Sir John
Osbern, who died in 1633. Omicbon.
I think there can be little doubt that Herfastus
^ the Dane '* was the father of Gunnora, wife of
Rich. I., Duke of Normandy ; of Aveline, wife of
Osbemus de Bolebec, Lord of Bolbec and Count
of Longueville ; and of Weira, wife of Turolf de
Pont Audomere. The brother of these three sla-
ters was another Herfastus, Abbot of St. Evrau ;
who was the father of Osbemus de Crepon,
Steward of the Household, and Sewer to the Con-
queror. H. C C^
Devonianisms (VoL viii., p. 65.). — Your cat'
respondent Mb. K bys is at a loss for the origin g£
the word plum, as used in Devonshire. Surely it
is the same word as plump, although employed in
a somewhat different sense. Plum or plump^ as
applied to a bed, would certainly convey the idea
of softness or downiness. As to the employment
of the word as a verb, I conceive that it is analo-
gous to an expression which I have often heard
used by cooks, in speaking of meat or poultarj,
" to plump up." A cook will say of a fowl whidi
appears deficient in flesh, " It is a young bird ; it
will plump up when it comes to the fire.** A
native of Devonshire would simply say, ^'li will
plum.**
As to the word cbtnk^ it is in use dirouj^ut
Cornwall in the sense of " to swallow,** and is un-
doubtedly Celtic. On referring to Le Gonidec*s
Dictionnaire Celto-Breton^ I find "'Lonka^ or
LowduL, v.a. avaler.'*
I have neither a Welsh dictionary not one of
the ancient Cornish language at hand, but I hB¥«
no doubt that the same word, with the lame sig-
nification, will be found in both those dialects
of Uie Celtic, probably with some difference of
spelling, which would bring it nearer to the word
dunk.
It is not wonderful that a word, the sound of
which is so expressive of the action, should have
continued in use among an illiterate peasantry
long after the language fix>m which it is derived
was forgotten ; but many pure Celtic words, which
have not this recommendation, are still in common
use in Cornwall, and a collection of them would
be highlpr interesting. Could not some of your
antiquarian correspondents in the west, Mb.
BoASE of Penzance for example, furnish siich a
list ? I will mention one or two words which I
chance to remember : mabyert a chicken, Breton
mab, a son, tor, a hen ; veoa, little, Breton viheau
Dkc 31. 1853.]
NOTES AND QUERIES.
6&S
i |To persons acquainted with tbe Welsh or
l^reton, the names of places in Cornwall, though
sometimes stransely corrupted, are almost all sig-
nificant. The dialect of Celtic spoken in Cornwall
appears to have approached more closely to the
latter than to the former of these tongues ; or
perhaps, speaking more correctly, it formed a con-
necting link between them, as Cornwall itself lies
about midway between Wales and Brittany.
Edoak MacCuij[«och.
Guernsey.
Gentile Names of the Jews (Vol. viii., p. 563.).
— The names of Rothschild, Montefiore, and
Davis are family names, and not noms de guerre.
It is possible that the honoured names of
Rothschild and Montefiore date from a purchase by
some one of their ancestry of Gerdue castles or
lands, and with it the purchase right of name.
Davis is legitimately Jewish, but probably the
Grentile name of Davis cannot boast of its pure
source, and no doubt where Gentile pedigree
loses trace, Jewish descent commences, either by
a left-handed Jew connexion with a Gentile fair
one, or a renegade ancestry. Isbael ben Isaac.
Red Lion Square.
Longevity (Vol. viii., p. 113.). — On October 15,
' Judy, a slave, died on the plantation of Edmund
B. Richardson, in Bladen county. North Carolina,
aged 110 years. She was one of eight slaves who
nearly sixty years ago were tbe first settlers on
the plantation, where she died. Of the seven
others, one died over 90 years of age, another 93,
and a third 81 ; two are living, one 75 and the
other over 60 years of age.
Within five miles of the place where Judy died,
William Pridgen lived, who died about five years
ago, aged 122 years.
David Kenuison, a soldier of the Revolution,
died near Albany (N. Y.) on the 24th of Febru-
ary, 1852, aged 117 years. M. £.
Philadelphia.
Reversible Names (Vol. viii., p. 244.). — Emme
might have been added to your correspondent's
lilt, a female name which, when first known in
England, was spelt as above written, and not
Emma, as at the present time. In an old book I
have seen the name and its meaning thus recorded,
^in English, JSmme; in French, JEmme, bonne
naurrice.
I must beg to difier in opinion from your cor-
respondent, even with his epicene restriction, who
states *^ that varium et mutabUe semper femina
only means tlfat whatever reads backwards and
forwards, the same is always feminine^
If M. will take the trouble to look in Boyle*s
Court Guide for 1845, p. 358., he will find the
name of a late very distinguished general officer.
Sir Burges Camac. A wealthy branch of thif
family is now established in the United States,
and one of its members bears the name of Camac
Camac.
I am unable to give M. another instance, and
doubt if one can be easily found where the
Christian and surnames of a gentleman are alike,
and both reversible. W.W.
Malta.
Etymology of Eve. — Only one instance of a re-
versible name seems to me at present among the
propria qua maribus^ and that is Bob. As, how-
ever, the name of our universal mother has been
brought forward, you will, perhaps, allow me to
transcribe the following remarkable etymology :
" Omnes nascimur qulantes, ut Dostram miseriam
exprimamus. Maseulus enim recenter natus dicit A ;
foemina vero £ ; dicentes E vel A qaotquot nascuntur
ab Eva. Quid est igttur Eva nisi heu ha 9 Utruroque
dolentis est interjectio dolorls exprimens magnitudinem.
Hinc enim ante peccatum virago, post peccatum Era
meruit appellari. . . . Mulier autem ut naufiragu%
cum parit tristitiam habet,** &c. — De Coniemptu Mundif
lib. i. e.6., a Lothario, diacono cardinali, S.S. Sergii et
Bacchi, editus, qui postea Innocentius Papa III. ap-
pellatus est."
Bajllioi^nsis.
Manifesto of the Emperor Nicholas (Vol. viii.,
p. 585.). — Allow me to correct a gross error into
which I have been led, by an imperfect concord-
ance, in hastily concluding that the words ''In
te Domine speravi, non confundar in seternum,**
were not in the Psalms, as I have found them in
the Vulgate, Psalms xxxL 1. and Ixxi. 1.
T. J. BUCKTOK.
Lichfield.
Binometrical Verse (Vol. viii., pp. 292. 375.). —
In answer to these inquiries, the copyright of
this united hexameter and pentameter belongs to
Mr. De la Pryme, of Trin. Coll., Cambridge, who
is also the author of another line which is both
an alcaic and sapphic :
** Quando nigreseit sacra latro patrat.**
GaU of Rent (Vol. y'lH, p. 563.).— Gale [6?a»c/,
Sax., a rent or duty,] a periodical payment of
rent. The Latin form of the word is gabetlnm^
and the French gabeUe. (See Wharton's Law
Lexicon.) *A\i€^
Dublin.
Mi^ttUKntavut.
HOTSS ON BOOKS, ETC.
The History of MiUwaU, comnumfy called the Ide of
Dogs, indnding Notices of the Ifest fndia Docks §md
City Canal, and Notes on Poplar, Nackwdl, Limehouae,
656
NOTES AND QUEEIES.
[No. 218.
and Stepney^ by B. H. Cowper, is unquestionably one
of the most carefully compiledi and judiciously ar-
ranged, little topographical works, which we have
ever been called upon to notice. The intelligent M.P.
who is recorded to have asked a witness before a select
committee for the precise locality of the Isle of Dogs,
and to have been satisHed with the answer " Between
London Bridge and Gravesend," may, if inclined to
pursue his inquiries, find its history told most fully and
most agreeably in the little volume now before us.
In our Number for the 21st of May last, wc called
attention to, and spoke in terms of fitting approbation
of, the First Part of The English Bible ; containing the
Old and New Testaments, according to the authorised
version ; newly divided into paragraphs, with concise
Introductions to the several Books, and with Maps and
Notes illustrative of the Chronology, History, and
Geography of the Holy Scriptures; containing also
the most remarkable variations of the Ancient Versions,
and the chief results of Modern Criticism. Part II.,
comprising Exodus and Leviticus, is now before us,
and exhibits the same merits as its predecessor.
Mr. Miller, of Chandos Street, who during the past
year added to the value of his Monthly Catalogues by
Uie addition to each of them of several pages of literary
and bibliographical miscellanies, has just collected
these into a little volume, under the title of Fly Leaves,
or Scraps and Sketches, Literary, Bibliographical, and
Miscellaneous, which may find a fitting place beside
Davis*s Olio, and other works of that class.
We regret to learn, as we do from the Literary
Gazette of Saturday last, that the Trustees of the
British Museum, in defiance of the earnest recommend-
ation of the Society of Antiquaries and of the Archaeo-
logical Institute, and with a total disregard of the
feelings and opinions of those best qualified to advise
them upon the subject, have declined to purchase the
Faussett Collection of Early Antiquities, and conse-
quently will lose the Fairford Collection offered to
them as a free gif^ by Mr. Wylie : so that the en-
lightened foreigner, who visits this great national
establishment, and admiring its noble collections of
Gseek, Roman, Egyptian, and Assyrian antiquities,
asks, ** but where are your own national antiquities ? "
must still be answered, « We have not got one !** They
certainly do manage these things better in France and
Denmark.
Our readers, we have no doubt, shared the regret
with which we read the advertisement in our columns
last week from the Rev. Dr. Hincks, who, from the
want of encouragement, and in the face of peculiarly
adverse circumstances, is compelled to withdraw from
the field of Assyrian discovery ; and who is advertising
for some competent person who will work out what he
has in progress. Although Assyrian literature may
at present be discouraged by the Church and neglected
by the Universities, there can be little doubt that it
must ere long assume a very different position: and
we therefore trust that some means may yet be taken
to prevent Dr. Hincks* withdrawal from a field of
study in which he has been so successful.
As we have deviated from our usual course in
noticing subjects advertised in our pages, we take the
opportunity of calling the attention of our antiquarian
friends to the advertisement from the Rev. G. Cumming
on the subject of the casts now making from the Runic
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INDEX
TO
THE EIGHTH VOLUME.
rifled articles, see Anonymous Works, NorfcBs op Nbw Books, Epigrams. Epitafhs, Folk Lose, Inscriptions, Photo-
nv, Froyerbs, Quotations, Sbakspearb, and Songs and Ballads. Articles witti an asterisk (*) prefixed denote tm-
rred Queries at the date of PabUcation.]
A.
;bplace of Edward I., 601.
•n encore, 387.
Van derj on jmrtrait of Andrtes
iff, 5/5.
'"rench, status of one, 103.
Archbishop King, 44.
lial families, 384.
ladv's maid, 42. 86. a'iS.
and Isaac, mythological notices
•nsis on battle of Cruden, 173.
um de Kenilworth, 57.
t* houses in Aberdeenshire, 264.
:tsh national Records, 405.
lliomas de Lnngueville, 103.
jte of Kilkenny, 80.
pie lands in Scotland, 317.
ihoes tn Scotland, 285.
ingham boy, 66.
) a •• wilderness of monkeys," 413.
ito meaning, 198. 280.
(O. B } on poetical tavern signs,
•
ol libraries, 498.
(John) on the Cid, 574.
's Lusitania Illustrata, 104 257.
iana, 135. 257.
y office, shield and arms, 124.
n turn'd the bull/' its meanihgy
Hymn, why omitted in Common
,639.
ment, curious poetical one, 268.
>nients and prospectuses, their
563.
.) on Adamsoniana, 257.
rnson's Lusitania Illustrata, 257.
terius orbis Papa," 254.
s Chained in churches, 206
let, Wharton, and Smith, 1^.
Ch towers detached, 376.
.val's poems, 171.
ison family, 468.
chial libraries, 275.
uguese folk lore, 3821
I, Potter's translation, 622.
) on Louis le Hutin, 199.
jteness of detail on paper, 157.
feelings of, 550.
on etymology of contango, 586.
) on Henry I.'s tomb, 6 jO.
lochim, or Romans loner, 150.
a copyright law, 468.
on ** Celsiur exsurgens pluviis,"
on Czar, or Tsar, 150.
'iption on a tomb in Finland, 34.
ion of the Russians, 582.
m Oaks and Nine Elms, 34.
A. (J. S.) on sneexing, 625.
Aldress, an instance of its use, 505.
Alethes on worm in books, 412.
AlfVed (King), the locality at his battles,
129, 130.
* t^edigree to the time of, 586.
'Aknus on BuKtrode Whitlock, 454.
Cawdray's Treasurie of Similies, 499.
Donatus Redivivus, 492.
gale of rent, 655.
Keate family, 525.
Mitre and the Crown, 80.
murder of Monaldeschi, 160.
passage In Whiston, 397.
Preparation for Martyrdons, 152.
Aliquis on epigram on Rome, 584.
ftre-lrons, their antiquity, 687.
Allan (Peter) of Sunderland, MQ. 630.
647.
Allcroft (J. D.) on hour-glass in pulpits,
83.
watch -paper inscriptions, 452.
Alledius on Rousseau and Hoileau, 470.
^— •' When we survey yon circling orbs,"
515.
Alien (H. L.) cm female parish clerks, 475.
Allen (R. J.) on will of Peter the Great,
539.
wood of the Cross, 329.
All Hallow Eve, custom on, 490.
** ATI my eye," its early use, 254.
Alma Mater, its origin, 517.
Alms at the eucbarist, superstition re-
specting, 617.
Alms-basket described, 297.
Alpha on the mother of William the Con-
queror, 564.
AA.^ on descendants of Milton, 630.
* Alsop (George) noticed, 585.
Altars, portable, 101. 183.
A. (M.) on honorary degrees, 162.
Newton memorial, 172.
Amateur on multiplying photographs, 158.
Amateur Photographer on pre<Cision in
photographic processes, 30l.
Amcotts' pedigree, 387. 518.
American names, 638.
Americus on " Vox populi vox Dei," 494.
Amicus (Veritatis) on quadrille, 441.
* *• Amor nummi," the author, 149.
Ampers and (&), its derivation, 173. 223.
254. 327. 376. 524.
Anathema, maran-atha, 100.
Anderson (Dr. James), notices of, 198.326.
Anderson (James), his Historical Essay,
347.
Andre (Major) noticed, 174. 277. 399. 604
643.
* Andrew's (St) Priory Church, Barnwell,
80.
Andrews (Alex.) on Anna Lightfoot, 881.
Andrews (Alex.) on Irish rhymes, 602
poetical tavern signs, ^7.
Angel-beast, a game, 63.
* Animal prefixes, 270.
Anne (Queen), her motto, 174. 255. 440.
Anon on camera obscura, early notices of,
41.
Dodo Bardolf, 605.
door- head inscriptions, 162.
epitaph on Tuckett's wife« 274.
—' inscriptions in books, 153. 632.
manliness, its meaning, 127.
—— •* peg " or •* nail " for an argument, 561.
^— . Sir John Vanbrugh, 65.
** Virgin wife and widowed maid," 56.
" When the maggot bites," £44.
Anonymous names and real signatures, 5.
94. 181.
Anonymous Works: —
Andre, a tragedy, 174^
* Blockheads, 174.
» British Empire, Present State of, 174.
* Convent, an elegy, 172.
Days of my Youth, 467.
Delights for Ladies, 495.
De Omnibus Rebus et quibusdam aTiis,
569.
Devil on Two Sticks in England, 413.
* Donatus Redivivus, 492.
Doveton, a novel, 127 517.
Elijah's Mantle, 295. 453.
* Fast Sermon in 1779, 174.
* History of Jesus Christ, S8&
Indians, a tragedy, 174.
* Jerningham, a novel, 127. 517.
Les Lettres Juives. 541.
* Lessons for Lent, &c., 150.
Liturgy of the Ancients, 588.
Man with Iron Mask, 112.
Match for a Widow, 174.
* Mitre and the Crown, 80.
* National Prejudice oftposed to Inte-
rest, 174.
Pcetus and Arria, 219. 574.
* Poems published at Manchester, 388.
Preparation for Martyrdom, 152.
* Professional Poems by a Professional
Gentleman, 244.
Rock of Ages, 81.
» Watch, an ode, 174.
Whole Duty of Man, 5^<
Anstruther (Mr.) on the authorship of
Jerningham and Dovetofi, 517.
Antecedenu, its use as a plural, 439.
Anti-Barbarus on Latin termination
.anus, 386.
Antipodes, what day at our Antipodes?
102. 479. 648.
Antiquaries, Society of, changes proposed,-
45.
Archinloglul Iiutiiul
Aral! of ]>^« boni Id ■ kaenci, S7- S
Arnlm(B«Uina].li(rOtTmin-Eiigliiih,43
Shilipan an Ibt irindi. 3».
■ Aiti-lm aHnctln to llgbtnlng, aa-
Aitolplio on iliing DipnuiDii. w.
Airoq (J. W.)on ■ mUUetoe oucrr, B9I-
AitontSir Ailhur] noUeed, .U8. 01)1.180.
fas.
Aitrolo^
* A(h«nBUL rruni«il
-A«wo«H*ni.l.lilll
Audl^tLotdlihii-HI
AuSim' illua and InltUlil 1».
Au(ulju)|i>ap)iiE>l ikMchi 330.
AulumiiBl^nu, 4!»
»rkntd, Iti e(rnio1o«r. Sit. U8- C(0.
rDBll Oltr Coiupiinln, 470.
gT«n pota It tJie Temple, 1;I.
B.tA.)Di;liui.ehln£,ouei!r,liT.
BiFDn (Lord) and ^aiipean. tsg.
Bocon^a EliJIJ'l, Dal« on, 141. 16J
. SlukqwATv uineflkoiii, tfi9.
B, |A. F.| on " Htp,1ilp. huriih I" fios.
~ Plenepont utd tall doccaduti, sea.
V'fot (C. E.} on Capti Cook uid the Siad.
wlcn libndt, lue.
§udi4m (fe L.) on la old Bitng, IMJ.
XTT^ a.) on uliiMoE piper, dbi
aiil«y'>Annu<tlet, ipuriDui edillm, US.
Hitch (X.) on M*Kh* Blount, 18!.
UaUonliiih, Iti meiqlns mi elrmalogj,
nalo M9S. nfeired lol» Tunv, 311.
Slllird (E. nj oil Buna, « BOH, filS.
Jtimr-gUu Id pulplti, 83.'
_ — taualWiui bi PUHbnioutb CUha-
PfllSa CuOe, 00. M.jo, til. 477.
hour glaH in pufiHU, S79.
Uwym- bu., gsi.
M<ue)pulii%U.
Kipgleon, tnetdoleof, E9I.
^^ ^IIm fictn,'^ VonerU^i
Ket. Joaliih Mullen. tSD.
linn on Iha Order or the Outer. S3.
—^ I ivn the Couguenir. ■uTHm*.
• "BegRlng the qunllon." odflD or tha
Bcrliine^ on bathi Ha collodton proeeu, 4t.
BehBien [lanM, hu worki, 13. SM,
BclftT lowen, deuehni, «J. 1B3. SK
Dell,4h( puilnt.
• BiU ( Lord) or Hunhot, SO.
Bilmoral. NBtunlHIilorj of, «67. 5St.
Bareltl. bli ponralt bjr Rernoldi, 411. 477.
Bainidef In the Tharoea, IM « i. 300.
Barrett (BUon Sunoard], hli Ilnei on Wo>
man, im. 350. W.
Barri (C. CHnon) on antual prcfliea, nO.
XaRon (Hh.^)Vnd'Lciid ILllAi'l, ISS.
BaiO [0>c/niiiiii tacUicw*]^ plant, 40.
B. (E. H.) on Tnnch on Koiei
BereMtir1),.lu meaning, 4». SS
Bach, kniatati af, IhSrcKuiclieoni In St.
Petn'i, Weitmiiiiter, 4H.
B ilheniU on Jamleion the iiiper, les.
•BaferAnlhgnj\hlinunLiKrlptj^M9.
& (Q V) on ayiUiih hom Stalbridge, S88.
" Like one who wnke^" »e., SSB.
PoteniH'i unpubUihed letter, £3.
Bade (Cuthbert; on booki chained jo
chuichei, sne, sse.
^— •' boom " ai '"*Jto Itae poeli, 183.
- — burial on nDnbuldeDTchuiicbu, BO?.
odour from the rainbow, IM.
■herUnoraiunarganiliCra.tn.
— lUrt and Aimimi. IO.
iupentUloo oTComlih ndiuf^ tl
— Hi), ItasutiAmtST^
B. iia.} CD UM ofBndlet KO.
Bllliinc (witllm), noUatd. 110.
Unihaa (Rlehanl) «d Biiimi hi D
han't AnUqpltliL Wl.
■ Blnfhaa*! AmIibIIIci, puun in,S
BUhopi deptlnll M Ellcakcth, ud
MilftaouH, Inlreland, SSB.
B. (J J anlntle of VlUeri « CoooM, 371
— ChiddertanorNuttaurtt,S6«,
FritUETi ehiracter, 314.
Oeiinanheialclti.SOl
. — Ikriwrt'i Hemoln of Cbarlet I, SSI.
~ • " - IVolUite, 8*.
'Hie Angeli' Whlqwr, a Hw, St.
B. (J. M.) on Danlih asd BwoStrii bal-
mieiet In The Doqtor, 4U.
PoemadelCid.SBO.
"ttate."ln Hamlet, Act 1. Se. l.,409.
Black u'iinaum°£i'^aiir. 411. 609.
a ■ Blackamon the fAla or vartlngthe, ISO.
n,ei7. Blackbtun (Hugh) on photofrapliis en.
grirlni, 6E8.
Blickraurd and MaguniT. 114.
)» King, £57. ■ Blackwood'! MitgulDL apanat* ln,ttl.
SOiatVnn- B1ak»{WlHlMO)notli>>7,8£u9r
Peter Allan, MU.
poetical ia>«rn ^gai, G£a
lee^onlaU l"jo<itiei, M8.
" Up, guard!, and at ■™ I" JU.
weather pntBctioni. 326.
B« Park — Ae Hall, IDS.
Bea, nasK! ftw ihalr mlgnUoi^ ItO. SIS.
B.L.U.jIti ve«aln« XS.
Blood (Wm.) HI Mol wordilp, 414.
Patrick*! punatoij, 178.
Blottini'MpM, when flrM UMd, 104. ISS.
BlauBtTHHtlu) DoUaMt W.
Blount (TbaDia), UwcMfuoo «■ hli Bomi.
INDEX
663
• Bl«e4)ell — Uue anchor, S8R.
■Blue (Trae), who was he? 568.
IB^fltba (Dr. Samuel), his arms, 265. 35t
B. (M. 6.) on hotchpot, 413.
B. (NO on chair moriog, 537.
^r^ JSiBcycloMedias, 502.
translation of Ps. cxxvii. 2 , 5S0L
B. (N. T.) on Pollock's process, 17.
Bopwdmaa, on an early New Testament^
fl9.
Boue (Geo.>on encaustic tiles flrom Caen,
488.
Bobart (H. T.) on Jiacoh Bobart, 37.
iBoliart (Jacob) noticed, 37. 159. S44u
Bockett (Julia K.) on gravestone iDscrij;>p
tion, 268.
— — Richard Geering, 504
snail-eating„2t:9.
Boerbaave, passage in, 6D2^
Bogie and the farmer, a mythological tale,
• B<3ime ( Antpn Wilhelro) vioUced, 7.
Bolcvn (Queen Anne), state prisoner, 5X0.
Bond, a poet, 513.
Bond (E. A.) on Wright of Durham, 326.
• Books, old, 56.
Booker (John> on books chained iu
churches, 273.
—' parallel passages, 560.
^— passage in burial service, 178.
Book inscriptions. Sec Inscriptions..
• Book Jleviews, their origin, 410.
Books burned by the common hangman,
278 346. 625.
Books chained in churches, 93. 20ft 273.
328. 45a 595.
Books, notices of new : —
Ancren Riwle ;, or Rules of Monastic
Lafe, 606.
Antiquary;, a serial, 21.
Anaeige t'iir Kuude des Deutscben
Voraeit, 306.
Apuleius, Metamorphoses, 553.
Aristophanes' Comeiiies,, 186. 306.
Attic Philosopher in Paris, 553.
Bacon's Advancement, by T. Markby,
45.
Bacon's Essays, by T. Markby, 45.
Bankes's Corfe Castle, 89.
Barlow's works on Cheshire, 455.
Blaine on the Laws of Artistic Copy.
right, 553.
Bristol Archseological Institute, 234.
Carpenter's Physiology of Total Ab-
stinence, 282.
Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, 455.
Cooper's Glossary of Provincialisms,
45.
Cooper's Sketch of Unton, 30ft
Corner on Borough English, 138.
Cowper (B. H.>, his History of Mill-
wail, 655.
Cowper's Life and Works, by Southey,
553L
Croker's History of the Guillotine,
455.
Cyclopsdia Bibliographica, 45. 138.
30ft 354. 577.
De la Motte's Practice of Photography,
De Quincy's Confessions of an Opium
Eater, 90.
English Bible : Part II , 656.
Eyton's Antiquities of Shropshire, 186.
Foster's Lectures, 186.
French's Pedigrees of Nelson and
Wellington, 90.
Gibbon's Decline and Fall (Bohn),
607.
Gray's Elegy, illustrated, 577.
Hardwick's History of the (?hurch,
354.
Humphrey's Coin Collector's Manual,
20.
Hunter's Reply to Rev. Mr. Dyce, 21.
Ingleby's Essay on the Stereoscope,
401. 451.
Iri»h Quarterly Review, 306.
Bo<WLs, notices of new ; —
Johnson's Botany of the Easteni> Bor-
ders, 282.
Justin, Covnelliu Ne^MM, and Etitro-
pius, translated, 607.
Kitto's Journal of Sacred Litferaeore,
89.354.
Lardner's Handbook of Natural Philo-
sophy, 527.
Lepsius's Letters nrom Egypt, &c.,
282.
Letter to a Convbcation Man, 282.
Macdonald's Botanist's Word-Book,
607.
Madden^s Life of Savonarola, 234.
Mahon's (Lord) History of England,
20. 234. 455.
Matthew' of Westminster's History, 90.
186.
Miller's Flv-leaves, 656.
National Bliscellany, Vol. i., 577.
Ordericuf Vitalis' Ecclesiastical His-
tory, 528.
Owen's Translation of Aristotle, 90.
Phipiien's Practical Experiments, 138.
Proniptoriura Parvulorum, 606.
Raiike's History of Servla, 6(;7.
Remains of Pagan Saxondom, 577.
Shakspeare Repository, 354.
Simpson's Collection of Epitaphs, 2f 2.
Simpson's Mormonism, 1^.
Sims's Handbook to British Museum
Library, 511. 55'3.
Somersetshire Archaeological Society's
Proceedings, 553.
Smith's Dictionary of Greek and
Roman Geography, 90. 577.
Smith on the Origin and Connexion of
the GoKpels, 89.
Smith's liieory of Moral Sentiments,
607.
Stevens' Catalogue of bis Library,
607.
Thomson's Archaic Mode of express-
ing Numbers, 21.
Traveller's Library, 45. 186.
Urqii hart's Progress of Russia, 185.
Welsh Sketches, 354.
Willich's Popular Tables, 138. 528.
Zeitschrift fOr Deutsche Mythologie
und Sittenkunde, 306.
Books suggested for reprints, 148.
Boom, as used by the poets, 183. 375.
Booth (Capt) of Stockport,, 102. 184.
Booty's case, 62.
Borderer on anonymous ballad, 78.
Boston Notion, largest American paper,
3J4.
Boswell's Johnson, on the word Stellas^
439. 551.
Bottled beer, 289.
B. (H. ) on " Amentium baud Amantium,"
136.
" sincere," 328.
B. (P.) on George Alsop, 585.
* Bradshaw (President) and Milton, 318.
Brasenose, Oxford, origin of the name,
221.
Braybrooke (Lord) on paint taken off of
old oak, 45.
Pepys's grammar, 5(12.
poems in connexion with Watwloo,
549.
* Brasen Head, a periodical, 967-
Brechin (Bii^hop of) on }>agoda, 523.
* Brccost, its meamng, 78.
Breen (Henry H.>on AdamsOtaiana, 135.
antecedents, as a plural, 4^9.
— Charles I.'s portrait, 151.
-^— Christian names, 351.
— ■- Convent, an elegy, 172.
Creole, explained, 504.
** Crowns nav« their compass," 376.
— — Dramatic representations by the hour.
glass, 410, f
— — Drummer's letter, 153.
foreign English, 137.
** Gocid Old Cause," 421.
Breen (Henry H.) 6n ** Ffcte ib^ sabUme
tQ«heridk«louB,**177.
—— heraldic colour pertaining to Ireland,
S€L
Huet's Navigations of S61biilbn, 399.
Malachy (8t)'onthePok»es<d90.
— — mistranslations, carke<iB,201.
— - M(taitmartre»1ts derivation, 468.
Napoleon's spelling, 386.
— Paradise Lost, 388.
Quarlesand Pascal, 172.
table-turning, 32a
Brehon laws noticed, 80.
Brent (J.) on *f Hip, hip, hurrah! * 88.
Brett (Peter), parish cleirk Bhd author, 533.
B. (R. H.) on autumnal tints, 490.
land of Green Ginger; Hull, 34.
Pennycomequick, near Plymouth, 8.
Brickwall House, portraits at, 573.
Bridges, superstition respecting, 382.
Brigantia on caves at Settle, 41S.
Bristoliensis on old books, 56.
Chatterton, 62.
-— Cromwell's portrait, 279.
— — carious posthumous occurrence, 205.
— Hogarth's pictures, 64.
Britain, ito derivation, 291. 344. <415. 575.
651.
British Museum, Handbook to the |.ibrary,
511.
Brocfuna on Henry, Earl, of Wotton, 281.
heraldic notes, 351.
— — ladies' arms borne in a lozenge, 83.
448.
seals of Great Yarmouth, 321.
* Broderie Anglaise, 172.
Brooks (Rev. Joshua) noticed, 639.
* Brooks (Governor) noticed, 55.
Brooks (T. W. D.) on inscription at Ayles-
bury, 443.
Brothers of the same Christian name, 338.
478.
Brough (Dean), his " Crown of Glory," 113.
Brown (C.) on the myrtle bee, 45(^
Brown (J. \y*) on books chained in
churches, 596,
Brown (T. R.), his Etymological Dic-
tionary,'443.
* Browne (Francis), did he marry ? 639.
Browne, Sir George, noticed, 114. 243. SOI.
Browne's Tragedy of Polidus, 159.
Bruce (John) on Archbishop Curwen'a
letter to Archbishop Parker, 442.
A^cl^hishop Parker's correspondence,
'149.
—=- Cromwell's portrait, 135.
-—sf Verney note decypheted, 17.
B» (R. W.) on fox-hnnting, 172.
— ^ pictorial pun, 385.
RobJn Hood's festival, 622.
* Bryan (Sir Francis), his pedigree, 564.
B. (S.) on Lyte's new process, 373.
Sisson's developing solution, 157.
B. (T.) on sangaree, 527.
B— t (J.) on blotting-paper, 185.
dog Latin, 218.
Buckle, its meaning, 304. 526.
Buckton (T. J.) on barnacles, 224.
-..*- Council of Trent, 316.
Druses, 360.
Harmony of the Four Gospels, 415.
—^ Hebrew names, how pronounced, 590.
Jews in China, 6i6L
Land of Green Ginger, 227. 303.
manifesto of the Empe.or Nicholas,
5iS5. 655.
-^ Peter Lomt>ard's knowledge of Gredr,
i[94.
Psalm crfxvii. 2., 641.
*♦ Quem Deus vult perdere," 73L
Shakspearian parallels, 240.
— sneezing an omen and deity, 121.
Sophocles, passage in, 631.
Thucydides op the Greek factions,
137.
Tsar, or Czar, 225.
Bull, oblation of a white, 1.
Bullac6s explained, 167. 223 326.
Bulstrode's portrait, 293. 454.
664
INDEX.
Bunvan's Emblems, 18.
Burial in an erect povture, 5. 59. 233. 455.
630.
—— in unconsecrated ground, 43. SOS. 3S9.
483.527.
'— on north side of churches, 207.
service, passage in, 78. 177.
Buriensis on church towers detached, 63.
—^daughters taking their mothers*
names, 586.
— Dr. Butler of St. Edmund's Bury, 125.
— — parish register mottoes, 30.
punning devices, 270.
Burlie's marriage, 134. 15S.
Burke's mightv boar of the forest, 136.
Burleigh (Lord) and the dissenters, 487.
Burnet (Bp ), H. Wharton, and Smith, 167.
Bum (J. S.) on inscription at North Stone.
ham, 339.
— - book burnt bv the hangman, 348.
~— parish clerlts company, 452.
saltpetre>man, 399.
Bursary explained, 159.
Burton (Henry), his Works, 540.
* Burton (John), his descendants, 271.
Burton (Robert), author of Anatomy of
Melancholy, his death, 495.
Butler (Mr.) of St. Edmund's Bury, 125.
601.
* Butler's Lives of the Saints, various edi-
tions, 387.
Button's (Sir Thomas) Voyage, 385. 450.
B. (V.) on Junius facts being authenti-
cated, 8.
B— w (F.) on derivation of unkid, 353.
-i— . " Never endtnf?, still beginning," 168.
passage in Virgil, 400.
quotation from Pope, 208.
— — Tyndale's New Testament, 277.
•by, as a termination, 105.
* Byron (Lord) noticed, 55.
Childe Harold, passage in, 258.
* Bysahe (Edward) noticed, 318.
C.
C. on Abigail, 86.
^— cash and mob, 524.
Christian names, 63.
^^ encore, 524.
" Hip, hip, hurrah ! " 255.
honorary degrees, 86.
.—- island, its derivation, 209.
kissing hands, 64.
Lord North, 230.
Napoleon's spelling, 502.
Pennycomequick, 255.
'* Sat cito si sat bene," 18.
" Up, Buards, and at them I " 204.
.*— Vandyke in America, 228.
C. (1) on Rev. Joshua Brooks, 639.
C. (A.) on pedigree to the time of Alfbed,
586.
Tangier queries, 33.
C. (A. B.) on cob-wall, 151.
— curious i>nsthumous occurrence, 6.
designed false English rhymes, 249.
first and last, 439.
— "For man proposes, but God dis-
poses," 411.
Caen, encaustic tiles flrom, 493. 547.
Caesar (Sir Julius), his letter to Sir W.
More, 172.
* Caldecott's Translation of the New Tes*
tament, 410.
* Caley's tk^clesiastical Survey, 104.
Calves^ Head Club, its doings, 315. 480.
Calvin's correspondence, 6if.
Cambridge graduates, 365. 525.
Cambro- Briton on the coronet of Llewelyn
ap Griffith, 514.
" Came," its early use, 468. 631.
Camera lucida, 271. 354. 503.
* Campbell (John) of Jamaica, 410.
Carapvere, privileges of, 88. 281.
* Canning on the Treaty of 1824, 365.
* Cannon-ball, singular discovery of one,
366.
Cantab, on pedigree indices, 453.
CanUb. (A.) ou Nelly O'Brien and Kitty
Fisher, 440.
Cantab (Emmanuel) on passage in Bacon,
303.
Cantabrigiensis on honorary D. C. L.'s, 8.
* Canterbury, ancient privileges of the See,
56.
Canute's Point, Southampton, 204.
Capital punishment, mitigation of, 42. 1 12.
Capuin on Adm. Sir T. Tyddemau, 317.
Caret on camera lucida, 271.
Carey ( Patrick), 406.
Carlist calembourg, 618.
Carnatic on '* Begging the question," 640.
Carr(.Sir George) noticetl, 327. 423.
Carter (IL W.) on Yorkshire tradition, 617.
* Cary (Ur. Robert) noticed, 79.
Cash, is it an English word ? 386. 524. 573.
651.
* Castles of Scotland, how maintained, 366.
* Caale Thorpe, Bucks, 387.
C. (A. T.) on Sir Geo. Downing, 221.
Cateaton Street, its derivation, 540.
Cato (Isaiah) on monumental brasses
abroad, 497.
Cats, are white ones deaf? 135.
Caucasus on the spelling of D'Israeli, 441.
Cause : " The Good Old Cause," 44. 421.
Cavaliers' Common Prayer Book, 536.
Caves at Settle, in Yorkshire, 412. 651.
Cawdrey's Treasure of Similes, 386. 499.
Cawdrey (Zachary) noticed, 152.
C. (B. H.), a chapter on rings, 416.
ballad of Sir Hugh, 614.
^— Baslierville's burial, 423.
black as a mourning colour, 502.
lx)oks chained in churches, 453.
— chronograni8, 280.
De V>utncey's Account of Hatfield, 26.
—^ engin-ii-verge, 231.
-^ examples of the word its, 12.
^— Hackney Church tower, 63.
" Haul over the coals," 280.
— letter X on brewers' ca«ks, 439.
magnet symbolical of Venus, 280.
— mammon, an idol, 173.
monk and till, 527.
passage in Job, 2()5.
repys and East London topography,
— — *' Salus populi suprema lex," 526.
St. Paul and Seneca, 205.
scrape, its meaning, 422.
slieer hulk, 280.
'I'sar. its etymology, 482.
weather rhymes, 512.
C (E)on Hupfeld, 34.
— Peter Allan, 539.
scale of vowel sounds, 34.
Cecil (Lord), his Memorials, 442. 502.
Celt, its derivation, 271. 651.
Celtic etymology, 229. 551.
Celtic words, collection of, wanted, 654.
Celtic and Latin languages, their con-
nexion, 174. 280. 353.
Centenarian couple, 490.
Ceridwen on Shakspeare controversy, 124.
— yellow bottles for chemicals, 86.
Cestriensis on book inscriptions, 59i.
Geo. Wood of Chester, 34.
MinshuU's Cheshire Collections, 467.
Wilbraham's Cheshire Collections,
270.
Ceyrep on door>head inscripticns, 38. 454.
oaths, 605.
RafTkelle's Sposalicio, 574.
rings worn by ecclebiastics, 387.
C. (F.) on Boswell's Johnson, 439.
C. (F. G.) on symbol of sow, &c, 493.
C. (G. A.) on Major Andrd, 604.
Dr. Butler and St. Edmund's Bury,
604.
— — pronunciation of Coke and Cowper,
603.
C. (G. M. E.) on execution for murdering
a slave, 112.
C. (H.) on splitting paper, 413.
* Chaddertoa of Nuthurst, 564.
Chaffers ( W.) on voiding.knife, 297-
Chair-moving, 557.
Chandler, Bishop of Durham, accused i>f
simony, 341. 630.
Chanting of Jurors, 502.
Chapman (Mr.), one of the binden of the
Hatleian MSS., 335, 336.
Charity-schools, origin of, 69. 4S5i.
Charlecott on Shakspeare portrait, 4S8L
Charles 1., his portrait, 151. 233.
Chartham on Sir Arthur Aston, 126.
Chasles (Philaidte) on berefellaril, 48a
blagueur and blackguard, 414.
— — comminatory inscriptions in liooks, 472.
Italian- English, German-English, &c.
436.
* Chatham (Lord) on Fox and Newcastif
ministry, 33.
Chatterton and the Rowley Foemt, 68.
C. (H. B.) on Booty's ease, 62.
capital punishment, 112.
— . historical impossibilities, 72.
old Jokes, 146.
passage in Whiston. 645.
Tieck's Comcedia Dhrina,570.
C. (H. C.) on arms: battle-axe, 113.
Osbom Alius Herfast, 654.
Richard Geering, 504.
— Sir Arthur Aston, 669.
Sir G. Browne, 114.
Chemistry. it« derivation, 470.
* Chester (Sir Wm.) noticed, 36.^
* Chester (Thomas), Bishop of Elpbin, S4a
Chesterfield (Earl oQ : see fFoMon, Henry,
Earl of.
Cheverells on burial in erect posture, 5.
hurrah ! &c., 185.
ornament in Crosthwaite Church, 200.
Chicheley (Abp.), date of his birth, 198.
350.
•• Chip in porridge " explained, 208.
4< Chip of the Old Block" on the Heven-
inghams, 103.
Choice of Hercules, 89.
Choirochorographia, 151. 829.
Christian names, 63.
Christian year, note on it« motto, SSJ.
* on a passage in, 539.
Christmas in Pennsylvania, 615.
tree, 619.
Christ's cross, 18.
Chronicles of the Kings of Israel, 561.
Chronograms. 42. 280. 351.
in Sicily, 562.
Church, high and low, 117.
Churches of England and Rome, which
committed schism? 485.631.
* Church temporalities t)efore Constantine,
412.
Churchwardens, origin of, 584.
* Cicero quoted in an unknown wwk, 640.
Cid, a poem, 367. 574.
City Companies, the smaller ones, 470.
Clvis on Edward Bysshe, 318.
C. (J. G.) on poetical tavern signs, 353.
C. (J. M.) on Anna Lightfoot, 87.
Clare, legends of the county, 145. 864w 360.
437. 616.
Clarence, origin of the dukedom, 565.
Clarepdon (Lord) and the tubwoman, 19.
Clark (Alex.) noticed, 18. 517.
Claymore, the original weapon, 365. 520.
Cleek, a game, 63.
Clem, as meaning starve, 64.
Clement (St.), his apple-feast, 618.
* Clergyman (English) in Spain, 410. 574^
* Clerical duel, 7.
Clericus (A.) on administration of the
eucharist, fi92.
Clericus (D.) on Queen Anne*s motto, 174.
-— arms of De Sissonne, 503.
head-dress temp. Charles I., 178L
Laodicean council, Canon xxxv., 7.
— ~ lines on Sir Francis Drake, 195.
Ravilliac, 819.
Clericus Rusticus on cash and mob, 386.
namby-pamby, 318.
— tailors* cabbage, 315.
topsy-turvy,^. .
INDEX.
66d
Clerk (A.) on photographs by artificial
lights, 228.
Clifford (Roger, fifth Lord) noticed, 184.
251.
Clipper, its meaning, 100. 598.
CkMe (Antony) on canonisation in the
Greek Church, 292.
Cloth, decomposed, discorered at York,
438.
Clouds, classification of, 337.
Clunk, origin of the word, 65. 6S4.
C. (M. A. W.) on P'rench Prayer Book, 343.
C4(M. £.) on raining cats and dogs — hel-
ter skelter, 565.
Cob and Conuers, 43.
Cob-wall, 151. 279.
Cobb (Francis), his Diary, 1&
Cocker's Arithmetic, later editions, 540.
Coffins, their shape, 104. 256.
Coin, its elsrmolc^, 443.
Coke (Sir Robert), his ancestors, 517.
Coke and Cowper, their pronunciation, 54.
603.
Colchester corporation records, extracts
from, 464.
Coleridge'* Ohristabel, 11. 111.
unpublished MS&, 43.
Collar, a gold one found in Sta£R>rdshire,
537.
Collar of SS., 398.
College (Stephen), 310.
* College exhibitions, work on, 57.
Collier (J. Payne) on passage in ** The
Taming of the Shrew," 73.
Monovohirae Shakspeare, 35.
CoUis (Thomas) on the churches of Eng-
land and Rome, 631.
Collyns (W.) on house.marks, 62.
Hon. Miss E. St. L^er, 89.
— — old lines newly revived, 76.
pronunciation of Bible names, 630.
Comet superstitions in 1853, 358.
* Confirmation, prejudice against, in adults,
440.
Cooger, its HymeAogy, 444.
Conner or Connah's quay, 43:
Consecrated roses, 38. 13S.
Constanter on movable metal types, 454.
Constantinople— Istamboul, 148.
Constant Reader on Bishop Ferrar, 103.
Muller^ processes, 451.
*' Solaraen miseris„" &c., 272.
* Contango, its derivation, 58&
Convocation and the Propagation Society,
100.
Convocation in the reign of George II.,
465.
Cook (Capt), did he discover the Sandwich
Islands ? 6. 108.
* Cookworthy (William) noticed, 585.
Cooper (C. H.) on blotting-paper, 185.
>— ** delusion, a mockery and a snare,**
302.
— — dream testimony, 287.
•— Sir Thomas Elyot, 276.
— strut-stowers and yeathers, 148.
" Tub to a whale," 304.
Cooper ( R. Jermyn) on " We've parted for
the longest time," 388.
Cooper (Samuel), the painter, 368.
Cooper (Wm. iXirrant) on longevity in
Cleveland, 488.
Cooper's Chronicle, 494.
* Copyright law and the British Museum,
468.
Corner (G. R) on Reynolds* portrait of
Baretti, 411.
Corney ( Bolton) on Capt. John Davies, 450.
Milton and Matatesti, 237.
Robert Drury, 181.
»— Sims's Handt>ook to the Library of
the British Museum, 511.
Vida on Chess, 4-9.
Cornish (James) on Hamlet and George
Steevens, 195.
*• Mary, weep no more for me," 385.
'— Pennycomequick, 184.
Cornish mmers, superstition of, 7. 215.
* ** Corporations have no souls," &c., 587.
Corpse, curious occurrence respecting, 6.
205.
Corser (Thos.) on parochial librarie*, 369.
Coryate's Crudities quoted, 558.
« Cotterell (Sir Charles), his death, 564.
Cotton (Archd.) on Roman CatboUc Bible
Society, 494.
» Cottons of Fowey, 317.
County rhymes, 6K.
Court House in Painswiek, 40SL ^6.
Cousins, marriage of, 387. 525.
Cowgill on Talleyrand's maxim, 136.
— the termination -by, 105.
Cowper and Pope, 383.
Cramp ( W.) on origin of book reviews, 411.
Cranmer's Correspondences, 183. 222.
Cranston on Milton's Familiar Correspon*
dence, 640.
Crashaw (Richard), epigram by, 242.
Crassus' saying, 258.
Craton the philosopher, 44t 603.
Creed (6.) on Judas Iscariot's deseendanta*
56.
Tom TtMimb's Castle at Gonerby, 35.
Creed, the superstitious use oC, 613.
Creole, its meaning, 138.
Crescent, origin of the standard, 196. 319.
66S.
C. ( R. H.) on Craton the philosopher, 441.
passages in Shakspeare, 216.
— — Prie-Dieu : ancient Airniture, 101.
* Crieff compensation, 540.
* Crispin and Crispianus, story of, 619.
Crito on city bellmen, 538.
* Cromwell's descendants, 442.
portrait, 55. 135. 279i
Cross, its anticipatory use. 132. 417. 545.
Cross of Calvary composed of four kinds
of wood, 329.
* Crosses on stoles, 411.
Crossley (Francis) on Celtic etymologies,
345.
humbug, its signification, 422..
letter *' h " in humble, 298.
— — longevity, 523.
— pronunciation of humble, 551.
yew-trees in churchyards, 448.
Crosthwaite Church, ornament in, 55. 200.
452.
* Crow — '• To pluck a crow with one," 197.
Crow.bar, its derivation, 439.
* Cruden, the battle of, 173.
Cruickstown Castle noticed, 445.
C. (R. W.) on Cottons of Fowey, 317.
C. (S. G.) on Derbyshire folk lore, 512.
Gabriel Poyntz, 440.
gold collar found in Staffordshire, 53&
illustrium Poetarum Flores, 243.
lemon.juice as a medicine, 217.
pronunciation of humblev 393.
sincere, simple, singular, 567.
Sir William Hankford, 342.
tin, early notices of, 593.
C. (T.) on famUy of Hoby, 52&
Ctus (J.) on Lofcopp or Lufcopp, 245.
Cucumber time, 439.
Cumming (J.G.) on St. Patrick and Maune,
291-
yew-trees in churchyards, 346.
* Curates, stipendiary, 340.
Curfew, places where still rung, 466. 60S.
628.
Curtis (J. Lewelyn) on liveries worn by
gentlemen, 473.
* Curwen (Archbishop), his letter to Arch,
bishop Parker, 442.
Cusack (Capt. George), the pirate, 272;
Custom of ye Engliahe, 36&.
C. ( W.) on ** I put a spuke in bis wheel,"
351.
Laird of Brodie, 232.
manners of the Irish, 279.
white bell heather transplanted, 79l
Czar or Tsar, its derivation, 150. 226. 422.
D.
D. on Crieff compensation, 540.
New Universal Magazine, 639.
D. (A. A.) on passage in the Christian
Year, 53a
— — font, its position, 149.
praying to the West, 591.
-^ Taylor^s Holy Living, 46a
Wilson's Sacra Privata, 460.
Dale (J. H. Van) on Flemish refugees, 19&
D' Alton (John) on Ballina Castle, 577.
* Dameran (Governor) noticed, 34.
Dance of Death, its republication, 76.
* Daniel (John) noticed, 318.
Danish and Swedish, 444.
Danish names in England, 58.
Darling's Cyclopsedia, its utility, 125.
Daughter pronounced dafter, 292. 504.
* Daughters taking their mothers' names,
586.
* Daventry, duel at, 78;i
David's mother, 539.
Davies (F. K.) on legends of the county
Clare, 145. 264. 360. 436. 616.
Davis (Captain John), 385. 450.
Dawson ( Benj.) on *' an" before u long, 244,
letter " h " in humble, 229.
Days, unlucky, 305.
*!• (30 on X on brewers' casks, 572.
D. (C.) on foot-guards' uniform, 64.
D. (C. D.) on New Brunswick folk lore, 382:
D.C.L.'s, honorary, 8. 86. 162.
D. (E.) on Bunyan's emblems, 18.
Cobb's Diary, 18.
effigies with folded hands, 9.
Faithftil Teate, 62.
D. (E. A.) on Samuel Wilson,. 242.
Death on the fingers, 362.
De Bure (J. J.), sale of his library, 434.
DeceitfUlness of Love, an inedited poem,
311.
Deck (Norris) on Eugene Aram's Lexicon.
255.
Carabridgeshixe folk lore,^12.
font, its position, 234.
heraldic notes,. 265*.
nightingale's song,. 651-
pure, its meaning, 230.
Richard, kmg of the Romans, hi9
arms, 653.
wooden tombs and effigies, 25St
Dedication crosses, 201.
Dee, legendary allusions to its divinity,.
588.
Degrees, honorary, 8. 86. 162:
D. (£. H. D) on amperaand, 524.
lines " Could we with ink," &c., 257.
Delaval (Miss), her Poems, 171.
* Delft manufacture, 125.
Delta (H.> on " Mirrour to all who follow
the wars," 151.
De Mareville (Honorg) on oaths, 472.
Demayne (Charles) on work on the human
figure, 390.
Denham (M. A.) on Henry, third Earl of
Northumberland, 515.
^— no sparrows at Lindham, 572.
vault at Richmond, Yorkshire, 573.
*■ Denison family, 468.
Dent (Mr.) of Winterton, his burial, 202.
Denton (William) on Bishop Thomaa
Wilson, 220. j extract in his Sacra
Privata, 243.
Cardinal Fleury and Bp. Wilson, 245.
Dr. Richard Sherlock, 245.
De Quincey's account of Hatfield, 26.
De Sissonne of Norm&ndy, hia arms. 243.
327. 5(*3. '
Devereux (John) of Wexford, SL
Devereux (Walter>on Theobald leBotillcr.
572. '
Devlin (J. Daviea) on Crispin and Cri^
planus, 619.
Devonianisms, 44. 6& 654.
Dcvoniensis on '* Well's a fteL'* 197.
D. (F.) on point of etiquette, 386.
D. (O.) on Hartman's account of Water-
loo, 196.
666
INDEX.
D. (H. Vf.) on stereoscopic angles, 501.
Dial inscription*. 884.
Diamond (Dr. H. W.) on colIodioD pro-
cess, 133.
»— calotrpe process, 548. 596.
•i— printing on albumenised paper, 324.
— simplicity of the calotype process, 596L
Dick, or Duke Shore, Limehouse, S63.
Dictionaries and encydopssdias, 385. 502.
* Dictionary of English I'hrases, S92.
Dictum de Kenilworth, 57.
Dimidiation by impalement, 230.
* Dimraeson (Gapt. Jan) noticed, 469'
Dtodati (Charles) noticed, 295. 577.
* Dionysia in Bceotia, 340.
Dionysios on "Amornummi,** 149.
Dionysius on Henry Burton, 540.
Discovery of the Inquisition, 137. 350.
Diseases, non< recurring, 516.
* D' Israeli, how spelt, 441.
Dissimulate, its earliest use, 10.
Divining-rod, 293. 350. 410. 479. 623.
D. (J.) on Donnybrook fair, 86.
poetical tavern signs, 568.
D. (M.) on foreign medical education, 398.
— — photographic copies of MSS., 501.
D. ( N.) on emblems of the precious stones,
539.
D— n (W.) on gloves at fairs, 136.
Ken : The Crown of Glory, 113.
* " Doctor," queries in the, 410.
Dodd ( Dr. Wm. ) a dramatist, 245.
* Doddridge (Dr.), love poem by him, 516.
Dodo, or Doun Bardolf, 605.
Dog-Latin, 818. 523.
Dog, an old, the phrase, 208.
Dog taught French, 5^1.
■Dog-whipping day in-HuU, 409.
Dollop, its etymol(^y, 6f>-
* Domesday-book abbreviations, 151.
Dominic (St.) noticed, 136.
Done pedigree, 57.
Donkies, testimonials to, 488.
Donnybrook fair, 86.
Don Quixote, spqrious Continuation of,
590.
Dotinchem, in Holland, 151.375.
Doubter on longevity, 182.
Downing (Sir George) noticed, 221.
•* Doxology in Tusser, 44a
D. (Q.) on emblematical works, 88.
Shakspeare and the Bible, 384.
Dragoon on the forlorn hope, 526.
* Drainage, artificial, 493.
Drake (Dr.), his Historia Anglo-Scotica,
272.346.
Drake (Sir Francis), his ship, 558.
lines on, 195.
Draught, or draft of air, 317.
Dream testimony, 287.
Dredge (John i.) on Cawdray^s Treasurie
of Similies, 5U0.
Dress, recent works on, 390.
Drofsniag on gloves at fairs, 421.
Drummer's letter, 153.
Drury (Robert) noticed, 104. 161.
Druses, 360,
D. (S.) on translation of Ps. cxxvil 2.,
643.
D. (T.) on hackney-coach proclamation,
122.
Du Barry (Countess) noticed, 151.
Ducking-stool, 315.
Dumfries, the siller gun of, 412.
Dunkin (A. J.) on Henry IV.'s leprosy,
340.
lines ft-om Sir Walter Scott, 622.
Our Lady of Rounceval, 340.
Duport's lines on Izaak Walton, 193. 2
Dutch, high and low, 413. 478. 601.
Duval (C. A.) on Duval family, 423.
Duval family, 318. 423.
D. (W. B.) on books chained in churches,
59a
— — hour-glasses, 525.
~— mptto on Wylcotes' brass, 494.
E. on privileges of Campvere, 89.
— English clergyman in Spain, 574.
Laurie on Currency, &c., 491.
Marlborough at Blenheim, 409.
•• Earth upon earth," &c., 110. 353.
Eastwood (J.) on acharis or achatis, 280.
books chained in churches, 273.
Elaton (T. D.) on positives on glass, 451.
£bff(J.) on county rhymes, 615.
Ecclesiastical censure in the Middle Ages,
466.
E (C. I.) on the translation of Ps. cxxvii.
2., 520.
Eclipse in 1263, 441.
* Eclipses of the sun, list of, 244.
E. (C. P ) on quotations in Bacon's Essays,
353.
•* Populus vult decipi," 65.
Edict of Nantes, its revocation, 639.
Edifices of ancient and modern times, 81 .
Editors, oflTer to intending, 172.
Edmeston ( Jamea) on Belle Sauvage, 523.
Edward II., where was he killed .» 387.
477.
Edward V., his birth-place, 468. 601.
Effigies and wooden tombs, 19. 235. 455.
604.
* with folded hands, 9.
E. (H.) on thirt collars, 467.
Eirionnach on Catholic floral dictionaries,
585.
Cornish miners, their superstition, 7.
" Homo unius libri," 569.
longevity, 577.
phantom bells, 576.
nigs said to see the wind, 100.
— — uosicrucians, 175.
—— serpents, notes en, 39.
women and tortoises, 535.
E. (J.) on Major Andre, 399.
E. (J. H.) on Richard Oswald, 54a
Elections, contested, 208.
* Electric telegraph, its discoverer, 364.
* Elizabeth (Queen) and her true looking-
glass, 220.
— — and the Michaelmas goose, 368.
Ellacombe (H. T.) on bell- ringing for the
dead, 130.
coffins, their shape, 104.
Colonel Hyde Seymour, 38a
door- head inscriptions, 454. 632.
female parish clerk, 475.
Mr. Justice Newton, 15.
«H^^« Roff^r Outlflwo 5
Elliot (Mr.), binder of the Harieian MSS.,
335.
Elliott (R.) on Stewart's pantograph, 301.
Elliott (R. W.) on Beauty of Buttcrmere,
126.
books chained in churches, 206.
burial in erect posture, 630.
burial in unconsecrated placet, 203.
Chicheley, archbishop of (Canterbury,
198.
History of York, 125.
Holy Trinity Church, Hull, 638.
Lamb's unpublished Essay, 55.
I.and of Green Ginger, 160. 522.
ornament in Crosthwaite Church, 55.
452.
ringing bells for the dead, 130.
Ellison (R.) on female parish clerk, 475.
EUy (Little), a mythological tale, 95.
Elsevir on portraits at Brickwall House,
573w
Elyot (Sir Thomas) noticed, 22a 276.
E. (M.) on colour of ink in writings, 30.
Dr. Doddridge, 516.
contested elections, 208.
Jeremy Taylor and Lord Hatton,207.
Lachlan Macleane, 619.
longevity, 523. 655.
Lord North, 183.
Major Andrg, 644.
i— national methods of applauding, 6.
portrait of Lee, 540.
red hair, 5'.'2.
E. (M.) on *« The Rebellious Prayer," 19.
* Emblem on a chimney-piece, 219.
Emblems of the precious stones, BS9.
Emblems, works on, ^8.
E. (M. M.) on Kelser Glomer, 11&
Tleck^s ComoedU Divina, 126u
Encaustic tiles from Caen, 493. 547.
Encore, when first used, 387. 524
EncyclopsKlicus on dictionaries and ency-
clopaediaji, 385.
Enfield palace, 271. 352.
Engin-k-verge expl^ned, 65. 231.
Engraving, historical, 86.
Ennui, its modern use, 377. 523.
Enough, its pronunciation, 210.
E^Miulettes, their origin, 244.
Epigrams, 8. 154.
Greek, 622.
Kemble, Willet, and Forbea, 8.
* Mac Adam, 441.
Epitaphs : —
Alvechurch, Worcestershire, S74k
American, 491 .
Appleby, Leicestershire, 1£6.
Cofton Hacket, 274.
Crayford, 363.
editor, 274.
enigmatical, at Christchurch in Hamp*
shire, 1+7.
epitaph ium Lucretise, 563.
Ireland, 513.
Leicestertthire, 582.
Llangerrig, Montgomeryshire, 30.
^f atitda, empress, 77.
Orabersley churchyard, 274.
Pewsey, Wiltshire, 274.
Politian at Florence, S37.
Robin of Doncaster, its original, 3a
Stalbridge, Dorsetshire, 289i
St. Andrew's Church, Worcester, 274.
Thomas Blount, 286.
Thomas Tipper, 147.
Torrington churchyard, Deron, 537.
Tuckett's wife, 274
Wingfleld church, Suffolk, 98.
Wood Ditton, 385.
WordswfMTth's on Mrs. Vernon, 315.
*Hi*Kii»0e on Gresebrook in Yorkshire,
389.
Erica on ** Amentlum baud Amantium,'*
136.
bees, 575.
burial of Ben Jonson, 455.
oaths, 471.
Warwickshire folk lore, 146.
Erin on CromwelHs descendants, 442L
Este on books chained in churches, 453.
day at our antipodes, 479.
lines '* Earth says to earth," &c., 353.
— — passage in Tempest, 408.
Shakspeare, with a digest, 362.
Etiquette, a point of, 386. 527.
Etonensis on schrol libraries, 293.
Etymo on Cateaton Street, 540.
Eucharist, how administered, 292.
Euclid on British mathematicians, 5il.
* Euripides, passages from, 198.
Evans (John) on medal of Mary Queen of
Scots, 445.
Eve, etymology of the name, 655.
Evelyn (John), inscription on bis tomb,
329.
K ( W.) on burial in unconsecrated ground,
527.
•— slow-worm superstition, 479.
receipt or recipe, 583.
Ewart (Wm.) on Harris's MS. selrmons,
4.'.9.
<— ~ Lord Chatham, 33,
— - Napoleon's bees, 30.
E (W. F.) on Dr. Diamond's collodion
procei»s, 41.
Eye, the primary idea attached to it, 25.
204.
I
INDEX.
mi
r.
F. on Mallet's second wiftr, 27£.
— - passages from Euripittet, I9&
— > passage in V!cgil»576.
— ^ Short red» God red," Ac, 182L
Faber on ** Hauling over tbecoals^** 1S5L
Fairies, propitiating Hie, 617.
Surlie (Robert) noticed,. 159;
Falahiir, the bouse of, 134.
Falconer (Thos.) on case referred to in
■ IKsmlet 12S.
Farrer (Eiey. .Knires), hl»beqaest of books,
3f)0
FiitalMistake, bf Jbft Hkyns, 174.
Fhuconberge ftynibr, 155:
* Fauntleroy, inquiry respectins^ S70I
Faussett museum, 553. 9b6i
F. CC RO on albumenned paper, 373. 57S.
— — gfiua chambers fbr phoK^rapfay, ISI.
new process of positive prooA, 397.
F. (C. H.) on Matthew Lewis, 388.
Feeialfs on Tumbuit^ Gontinwrtioft of
Bnbertson,. 515.
Fenton on the fbrlom hope, 411.
* Fenton (R.)». translation of Athenaras, 19S.
Ferguson (James F.), epitaph in Ireland,
513;
—— unlucky days, 305*.
Ferguson (J. F.) on Captain Geo. Cttsack,
272.
* Ferns wanted,. 44^1.
Pferrand (D.) noticed^ 243. 329.
Ferrar (BishopX 103. S!&.
F (6 F.) on Old Fogte. 64.
Flat Justitia on Paley's plagiarisms, 589;
Ficulnus on ballad of Bonnie Dundee, 19.
Fierce, a pecuHar use of the word, 280. 352.
Fig? (Wm.) on second growth of gvass,
229.
* Ftre-ironr, thetr antlouity, 587.
First and laet, their mffbrent meanings,
439.
* Fisher (Kitty.) noticed, 440.
Fisher (P. H. ) on the Gourt-Housei Rdns-
wick, 59&
—— epitatins unpublished, 30.
^— inscription near Cirencester, 129.
school libraries, 640.
Fitch f Joshua G.) <m mottoes of German
emperors, 170.
Fltzherbert (Anthony) noticed, 159. 276.
351.
Fitzsimnns (R.) on Virgil, quoted hy Or.
Johnson, 270.
F. (JO on John Firewen, 296.
F. (J. W.) on "delighted" in Sbakspeare,
241.
* Flemish refugees, 196.
Fleury (Cardinal), his regard for the Manx,
245.
« Floral directories. Catholic, 586.
Florin and the royal arms, 621.
Fogies, old, 64. 154. 25& 455. 652.
fV)LK LoiUC»145.215. 264. 360. 382. 512. 613
—618.
Cambridgeshire, 38SL 512.
Gheshire, 617.
Clare, 360.
Comisb, 618.
Derbyshire, 512.
Devonshire, 146. 265.
Hampshire, 617.
Lincolnshire (North), 382.
Manx, 617.
New Brunswick, 382.
Northamptonshire, 146. 216.
Nottinghamshire, 4fiO.
Fennsytvanian, 615. 61&
Portuguese, 382.
Stafibrdshire, 61S.
Warwickshire, 146. 490.
Worcestershire, 617.
Yorkshire, 617.
Font at IsTip, 363>.
Font, its position, 149. 234.
Foot- Guards, their uniform, 64.
Forbes (C.) on Boswell** Johnsonv 551.
Forbes (C.) on green eyes, 592:
plea for the horse, 287.
** Putting your foot into it,** 159.
Foreign. English, specimens of, 137.
Forlorn hope, its origin, 411. 526..569»
Forms of prayer. Occasional, 535;
Forrell, its derivation, 527.
Fortiflcation, Greek and Roman, ^9. 654^
Foss (Edward) on collar of SS., 398.
green pots at the Temple, 256.
judges styled Reverend, 276.
Littlecott, Sir John Popham, 218.
Bfr. Justice Newton, 110.
Sir William Hankford^ 312.
* Fossil trees between Cairo and Sues, 126.
Fox (Charles) and Gibbon, 312.
Foxes and Firebrands, reprint suggested,
172.
noticed, 485.
* Fox-hunting, its origin, 172.
Fox (Major-Gen. Charles) on Baretti*s por-
trait, 4T7.
Franklin (Dr.), lines in* his handwriting,
196. 281.
portrait by Wert, 208.
* Fraser (Gen.) noticed, 586.
Fraser (W.) on etymology of balderdash,
342.
Burke's Mighty Boar of the Forest,
136.
books burned by the common hang-
man, 625.
Canterbury see, its ancient privileges,
56.
chanting of jurmrs, 502.
— — cob-wall» 279.
confirmation, prejudice agaitist, 440.
Cenvocatioa and Prepagal&on Society,
100.
Convocation tamp. George II, 465.
Devonshire charm for the thrush^ 146.
Elijah's Mantle, its author, 295.
fierce, its peculiar use, 281.
French abbSsy V02.
General Fraser, 586.
" Homo unius libri,'* 440.
Irish sufflragan bishops, 256.
Jewish custom, 618.
judges styled Reverend, 631.
love charm from a foal's foreheafl^ 606.
Mary Queen of Scots* medal, 293.
patriarchs of the West, 317.
— — singing psalms and politics, 230.
Speaker of the Commons in 1697, 152.
^-^ '* stars the flowers of heaven," 346.
Terrae filius, its origin, 292.
" to speak in lutestring," 202.
Freher (Dionvsius Andreas) noticed, 247.
* French abbes, their status, 102.
French (G. J.) on tiles from Caen, 547.
French, teaching a dog, 581.
French verse, 336.
Frere (Geo. E.) on Greek epigram, 622.
stage-coaches, 439.
Frewen (John) noticed, 222. 296.
Froissart's accuraey, 494. 604.
F. (R. W.) on second growth of grass, 102.
F. (T.) on Gen. Sir C. Napie»,.63L
— Major Andre, 277.
—— Scotch newspapers, 57.
FuenvicouiL [Fingal] and the giant, 610.
Funeral custom, 218.
Furvus on Nottinghamshire customs,, 490.
— — saltpetre maker, 225.
F. ( W. H.) on Picts' houses, 551.
F. (W. M.) on collodion pictures, 181.
cyanuret of potassium, 157.
Dr. Parr's letter on Miltou, 43&
lining of cameras, 157.
— — multiplying photographs^, 158..
trial of lenses, 133.
G.
G. on Dr. James Anderson, 198;.
consecrated roses, 13S,
— . Eari of Oxford, 392.
— — German heraldry, 204..
O. on beliiie<fl, 645.
Lady Percy, 104.
pedigree indices, 4i!^.
— . Queen Anne's motto2_255.
— — quota^n in Bishop Watson, 517.
Tradescant's marriage. 513.
— — Tumbutl'k Conttnuation of Eobertsoa,
552.
Gage (Thomas), author of the New Sbitvty
of the West Indies, 144.
Gale of rent, its meaning, 563. 655.
Galilei (Galileo), sonetto by, 295.
Ganske on La Bsanchc des ri^usLi^agei,
150.
GantHIon (P. J. F.) on ** Amenbium haud
Amantium^" 136.
burial in unconsecrated gceimd, 5S7;^
Burke's marriage, £34.
Edinburgh Review, reference, 152;
— <- Fienton*s translation of AthenasiM, 191.
— Fragmenta in Athenseus^ 104.
Hodgson's Atys of Catullus, 563;
Jacob- Bobwt, 159.
** Johnson's turgid style,'* 5S6.
-~-> misquotations, 315.
'* old dog," use of the phrase, 20a
—^ Presbyterian titles, 127.
-.— . quotation from Byron^ 305.
" rathe *' in the sense of " early ,".SQ8L
rhymes on places, 305.
topsy-turvy, 526.
* Gardiner (BpO> De ver& Obedientii, 54k
Gardiner (H.) on the word mob^ 63L
•.—— nightingale's song, 652..
Gardiner (W.) on The Forsaken Nympb^
444
Gardner (J. I>.)' on **^Up, Duardt^ and at
them I "184.
Garland (John) on Nash the architect, 79w
Gariichitheou Mitton*a widow, 134^564.
on Sir John Vanbnigh, 160.
* Garrick Street. May Fair, 411.
Garter, lines on the institution of the
Order, 53. 182. 479.
Gascoigne (C..J.), his tomb,. 278. 34fi.
Gatty ( Alfred) on bells at Berwick>upon>
Tweed, 293.
— — mitigation of capital punishment, 42..
Gaunt (John of), his descendants, 155. 268.
G. (C. P.) on La Fleur desSaintes, 410.
G. (C. S.) on oaths, 364.
G. (C. W.) on daughteB pronounced dafter»
292.
.-— serpent with a human bead., 304.
G. (E. A.) on Martyn the regicide, 621.
G. (E. C.) on mufib worn by genllenin^ Q&
Gedge (Sydney) on nightingale's son^ 112.
Ceering (Richard), his anas and pedigree^
340.504.
Genealogy, catalogue of privatel.y.-print8d
books on, 606.
Geneva arms, 5S3.
* Genitive and plural, analogy between,
411.
Gentry, return of, temp. H^iry Y L, 469.
630.
Geometrical curiosity, 468..
George II I. reviewing the 10th Ligiit
Dragoons, 538.
a mark bf his dislike ef the Prince of
Wales, 538.
German, or Christmas tree, 619.
German emperors, mottoes of, 170. 548^
heraldry, ISO. 204.
* phrase, 150.
Getsrn on bibliography, 62.
cleaning old oak, 59.
— — edificea of ancient and modem, date^
81.
— shoulder knots and epaulettes, 244.
G. (F. J.) on an Indian Word, 539.
G. (H. T.) on analogy betwem gjsniti^w
and plural, 411.
** came," its early use, 468.
— — tenets, or tenents, 4SS.
Gibbings (Robert) on riddle in Aulus GdU
lius, 322«
Gibbon (Edward), his library, 88. 208.
his letters quoted, S47.
r
^68
INDEX.
Gibbon (Edward), lines on his promotion to
the Board of Trade, 312.
Gibson (Wm. Sidney) on Petrarch's Laura,
56-2.
the state prison in the Tower, 509.
Gilbert family, 18.
Gilbert (James) on the Gilbert family, 18.
Ginger, its cultivation in England, 2i7.
G. (J.) on marriage of cousins, 525.
O. (J. M.) on books chained in churches,
595.
historical engraving, 85.
G. (K.) on Bp. Patrick, 103.
Glaius on Cambridge graduates, 521.
return of gentry temp. Henry VI., 469.
the Rothwell family, 243.
Glossarial queries, 291.
Glover's handwriting, 589.
Gloves at fairs, 13S. 421. 601.
G. (M. L.) on female jwirish clerk, 475.
G. (M. R.) on Father Matthew's chickens,
469.
Go'the's author-remuneration, 29.
Goldsmith's Haunch of Venison, 640.
Gole (Russell) on attainment of majority,
371.
— « female parish clerk, 474.
hand in Bishop's Cannings Church ,269.
"•^ marriage custom at Knutsford, 617.
— ' mitred abbot in Wroughton Church,
411.
O. (O. L. R.) on Ballina Castle, 411.
Bishop Grehan, 440.
Ho<lgkins's tree, Warwick, 410.
M'Dowall fiimily, 563.
Siller gun of Dumfries, 412.
. vault at Richmond, Yorkshire, 388.
<^Gordon (G. J. R.) on Dotinchem, 151,
Gorran (Nicholas de) noticed, 81.
Gough (Henry) on arm^ of Richard, King
of the Romans, 454.
burial in an erect posture, 455.
—— effigies in wood, 455.
hand in Bishop's Cannings Church,451.
— heraldic query, 480.
i Stafford knot, 454.
Gout, Abp. Lancaster's cure for the, 6.
G. (R.) on Bp. Gardener, *• De ver4 Obe-
dientiA," 54.
Lord Cecil's Memorials, 502,
Laodicean council, 87.
; " pinece with a stink," 350.
•— portable altars, 183.
Grab, its derivation, 46S.
Graeff (Andries de), his portrait, 573.
Grafton (third Duke of) noticed, 2.38.
Grammar in relation to logic, 514. 629.
Grammont's Memoires, notes on, 461. 649.
— ^ his marriage, 549.
Granville family, their arms, 265.
Grass, its second growth, 102. 229.
Graves (J.) on Bohn's edition of Hoveden,
11.
i— manners of the Irish, 111.
^— pedigree of Sir Francis Bryan, 564.
•.>-. real signatures, 94.
Gravestone falsified at Stratford, 124.
Gray, *' The ploughman homeward plods,"
241.
Grayan (A.) on sights and exhibitions
temp. James I., .558.
Gray's Inn, list of students, 540. 650.
* Greek Church, canonisation in, 292.
..-.- epigram, 622.
-^ inscription on a font, 198. 352.
Green (Dr. J. H.) and Coleridge, 43.
Green eyes. 407. 592.
Greenlaw (Charles P.), his eflTorts in ob.
taining steam for India, 560.
* Green's Secret Plot, 79.
* Grehan (Bishop) noticed, 4U).
Gresebrook in Yorkshire, 389.
Griffin on Dr. Misaubin, 8.
Griffith (H. T.) on books chained in
churches, 273.
^— ** Clamour your tongues," 254.
— — * detached belfry tower.^. 185.
Hewit, Sir William, 270.
** Inter cuncta micans," &c., 230.
GrOaning-board, 309.
— — elm plank in Dublin, 397.
Guliclmus on Webb and Walker families,
S86.
Gumey's Short-hand, 589.
Gw. on Hayns' Fatal Mistake, 174.
Psetus and Arria, 219.
— — Professional Poems, 244.
G. (W. H.) on Duport's lines to Izaak
Walton, 193.
G. ( W. S.) on inscription near Chalcedon,
151.
Istamboul : Constantinople, 148.
oblation of a white bull, 1.
-~— Rome and the number Six, 490.
H.
H. on day at the Antipodes, 102.
Duval family, 318.
Flaxman's ^schvlus, 622.
General Wall, 318.
— lane, its meaning, 366.
Lessons for Lent, the author, 150.
manners of the Irish, 4.
white cats being deaf, 135.
II, the letter, in humble, 54. 229. 298. 393.
551.
H. (A.) on Sir C. Wren and the young
carver, 340.
Hackney.coach proclamation, 122.
Haden (F. Seymour) on Historical Account
of Libraries, 653.
Hale (Philip) on fragments of MSS., 77.
Halifax (Lord) and Mrs. Catherine Bar-
ton, 429. .'543. 590.
Halliwell (J. O.) on coincident suggestions
on the text of Shakspearc, 265.
digest of Shakspenrian readings, 466.
Hampden (John), his death, 495. 646.
* Hampton Court pictures, 533.
* Handel's Dettingen Te Deum, 388.
* Handwriting, a manual of, 639.
Hankford (Sir William) noticeil, 278. 342.
H. (A. O.) on Aix Ruochim, 150.
— the ship William and Ann, 54.
Harbottle (Cecil) on The Winter's Tale,
95.
Hardwick (C.) on Harmony of the Four
Gospels, 415.
La Fleur des Saints, 604.
Hardy (William) on John of Gaunt's de.
scendants, 155.
Harington (E. C.) on Cawdray's Treasurie
of Similies, 499.
Harleian library, its binders, 335.
Harmony of the Four Gospels, the earliest,
316.414.551.
« Harrington, William, fifth Lord, 366.
Harris (Rev. J.), his Ma Sermons, 439.
Harrowgate, entertainment at, 82.
Harry (James Spence) on High and Low
Dutch, 478.
* Hartman's account of Waterloo, 198.
Harvest, a distich on the late, 513.
Harwood (Dr.), his death, 57.
* Haschish, or Indian hemp, 540.
Hatfield (John) executed for forgery, 26.
Hatfield (Martha), 310.
Haulf-nakcd, manor of, 205. 350.
H. (A. W.) on the meaning of Acharis, 198.
-—^ Domesday-book abbreviations, 151.
Hawkins (Edw.) on meaning of clem, 64.
school libraries, 298.
Hazel (W.) on bells at Berwick-upon-
Tweed, 630.
— — parish clerks and politics, 575.
quantity of words, 552.
topsy-turvy, 575.
Hazel wood on palace at Enfield, 271.
H. (C.) on Life of Savigny, 294.
H. de H. (T.) on dimidiation by impale-
ment, 230.
— French jeux d'esprit. 242.
— ~ '* Magna est Veritas," &c., 77-
— — parvise, 161.
unneath, 161.
H. (£.) on barrels regiment, 620.
H. (E.) on letter " h " in humble, 298.
— Northamptonshire folk lore, 146.
— — school libraries, 395.
snail-eating, 128.
Whitaker's ingenious Earl, 135".
Head-dress temp. Charles I., 172.
Healing, the office for, 504.
Hebrew names, their pronunciation, 469.
590.
H. (£. C.) on High Dutch and Low Dutch,
601.
—— pronunciation of Hebrew names, ^0.
pronunciation of humble, 394.
"To come," 631.
H. (E. L.) on erroneous forms of speech, SSL
Hele (Henry H.) on cleaning old oak, 58.
Pennycomequick, 113.
Hellas, the early inhabitants of, 27.
Helmets in armorial bearings, 538. 645.
Helter-skelter, its etymol(^y, ^1. 565.
Heraans (Felicia), inedited lyric by, 407.
629.650.
Henderson (Hugh) on nitrate of silver, 134.
Henri on Webb of Monckton Farleigh,563.
Henri van Laun on ** Hierosolyma est per-
dita," 561.
-— influence of politics on fashion, 515.
•^— mammet, its derivation, 515.
Regium Donum, 517.
Henry L, King of England, 72. 209.
his tomb, 411. 630.
* Henry IV. cured of leprosy, 340.
Henry VIII., his letters to the Grand
Masters of Malta, 99. 557.
Henry VIII., inedited letter firom, 510.
* Henry, third Earl of Northumberland.
515.
H. (E. P.) on Okey the regicide, 620.
•* Too wise to err," &c., 539.
" Hep I hep ! hurrah I " 88. 561. 605.
* Heraldic colour pertaining to Ireland, 56.
* Heraldic queries, 37. 83. 219.277. 448. 480.
515. 652.
Heraldicus on an heraldic query, 515.
Herbert (Sir Anthony), Chief Justice, 158.
276. 576.
Herbert's Memoirstof Charles I., 587.
Hermit at Hampstead on Gray's Plough,
man, 241.
Lord William Russell, 179.
Nixon the prophet, 326.
Tsar, its derivation, S26.
Herschel (J. F. W.) on new photographic
Erocess, 60.
lertstone, its meaning, 78.
Heslcden (W. S.) on Amcotts* pedigree,
518.
burial in unconsecrated places, 202. t
-— Newstead Abbey, 2.
* Heveninghams of Suffblk and Norfolk,
103.
Hewet (Sir Wm.), notices of, 270. 448. 652.
H. (F.) on arms of the see of York, 302.
H. (H. H.) on poetical tavern signs, 627.
Hibberd (Shirley) on Peter Allan, 647.
Hickson (Samuel) on death of Falstaff, 313.
406.
— — passage Arom King Lear. 4.
" Hierosolyma est perdita,'* 88. 561. 605.
High commission court, 175.
Highgate, Ladies' Charity School at, 69
435.
Hilary (St.), his emblem, 41.
Hilgar (Professor), his Treatise on Shak-
speare, 52.
Hincks (Dr. E.) and the Assjrrian lan-
guage, 656.
Hincks (Edw.) on early use of tin, &c., 344.
" Hip ! hip » hurrah ! *• 88. 561. 605,
Historicus on Jews in China, 515.
Histories of Literature, 222. 453.
History, the impossibilities of, 72. 80a '
H. (J.) on ammonio-nitrate of silver, 158. '
epiUph at Wood Ditton, 385.
** Earth opon earth," &c., lia
H. (J. A.) on the divining-rodL 623.
Hobbcs (Thomas), bis portrait, SSI. 369.
453.
Hoby fiunUy noticed, 244. 525.
INDEX.
669
Hodget (James), his book noticed, S47.
* Hodgkins*8 tree, Warwick, 410.
'Hodgson (Rev. F.), hi. Translation of the
Atys of Catullus, 563.
Hogarth's pictures, 64. S94.
Hollar (Wenccslaus), engraver, 563. 453.
Holwell (John Zephaniah) noticed, 213.
Holy Trinity Church, Hull, G3S.
Homer's Iliad, an ancient copy of, 153.
^ Homo unius libri," 440. 5G9.
Honiton fires, 367.
Hood (Robin), his festival, 622.
Horse—** Give him a roll," 287.
Horiley (Bp.) on Calvinism, 9.
Hotchpot, Its legal derivation, 413.
* Hbugomont, letters respecting, 293.
* Hour-glass, dramatic representations by
the, 410.
in pulnits, 82. 209. 279. S28. 454. 525^
House-marks, 19. 62. 135. 256.
Hoveden, Bohn's edition of, 11.290. 637.
Howard (Frank) on ampers and, 327.
«i— — buUaces and gennitings, 326.
— "Up, guards, and at them I " 275.
H. (R.) on the morrow of a festival, 412.
H. (S.) on Isthmus of Panama, 144.
H. (T. B. B.) on oaken tombs, &c., 179.
H. (T. K.) on Land of Green Ginger, 160.
.i— — murder of Monaldeschi, 160.
Hue's Travels, 516.
Huet*s Navigations of Solomon, 399.
Hugger-mugger, its origin, 311. 391. 503.
Huggins and Muggins, 341. 391. 503.
Hugh (Sir), his ballad, 614.
Hughes (T.) on bishops deprived by Eliza-
beth, 136.
.'Captain Booth of Stockport, 102.
— chronograms, 351.
— — Devonshire cures for the thrush, 265.
— — early English historical MS., 340.
— — Leman family, 234.
•^— Limerick, Dublin, and Cork, 257.
— - Milton's widow, her family. 12. 200.
•.— Oldham, bishop of Exeter, 183.
m—— parchment deed?, soiled, 270.
^— parochial libraries, 3*27.
Sir John Vanbrugh, 232.
Hull, plans of, 160. 227.
Humbug, iU etymology, 64. 161. 232. 422.
575.
* Humming ale, its meaning, 245.
* Hungarians in Paules, 441.
* Hupfeld's work Von der Natur, 34.
Hurrah ! and other war-cries, 20. 88. 185.
255. 277. 323. 422. 561. 605.
Hutin (Louis le) explained, 199.
H. (W.) on Lady Percy, wife of Hotspur,
251.
* Hyde, its measurement, SG6.
* Hymmalayas, a query from the, 339.
I.
I, (A.) on Henry Earl of Wotton, 173.
Icon on Sliakspeare suggestion, 124. 261.
Idol worship, 413.
I. (E. L.) on Jacobite garters, 586.
Ignoramus on yew-trees in churchyards,
346.
Illustrated London News, its large circula-
tion, 334.
lUustrium Poetarum Florcs, a new edition
suggested, 242.
Ilmonasteriensis on histories of literature,
222.
Imp, used for progeny, 443. 623.
Impossibilities of our forefathers, 559.
Ina on derivation of Wellesley, 255.
India, on telegraphic despatches flrom, .959.
Infants nameless in Scotland until chris-
tened, 468.
Ingleby (C. Mansfield) on ampers and, 173.
377.
Behmen's Books of Emblems, 13.
— binometrical verses, 292.
— Coleridge's unpublished MSS., 43.
Ingleby (C. Mansfield) on Collier's mono-
volume Shakspeare, 35.
'—— eclipses of the sun, 244.
Edward II., where was he killed ? 387.
— ennui, 623. '
-— geometrical curiosity, 468.
grammar in relation to logic, 514.
Jackson's emendations of Shakspeare,
194.
Milton's Lycidas, 497.
— — moon superstitions, 145.
— uumber nine, 305.
— ^ passage in the Tempest, 123.
perfect tense, 410.
proverb, definition of one, £43.
«— — pure, as a provincialism, 230.
»— quotations wanted, 103.219.
^— reversible names and words, 375.
sincere, its derivation, 195. 399.
•^— soul and the magnetic needle, 159.
word for the •• old corrector," 3.^8.
Ingraham (E. D.) on Gibbon's library, 208.
* Injustice, its origin, 338.
Ink in writings, its colour, 30.
Innocents* day, custom on, 617.
Inns of courts, matriculations at, 540. 650.
Inquasritor on English refugees at Ypen-
stein, 569.
Inquirendo on electric telegraph, 36 K
Inquirer on Pope's Elegy on an unfortunate
lady, 539.
Inscriptions —
at Aylesbury, 443.
in books, 64. 153. 472. .^91. 652.
belfry at Fenstanton, Hunts, 561.
bells, 108. 248.
Burford Church, 268.
* Chalcedon, 151.
dial, 224.
door-head, 38. 162. 454. 652.
font, 198. 352.
Earl Bathurst's park, 76. 129.
Greek one on a font, ]98.
monumental, 215. 268. 328. 408.
Northill churchyard, 268.
* North Stoneham, Southampton, 339.
* tomb in Finland, 34.
watch- paper, 316. 375. 452.
Inverness on books for reprints, 148.
** Ireland a bastinadoed elephant," 365. 523.
Irish, manners of the, 4. 111. 279.
* — merchants landing at Cambridge,
270.
rhymes, 249. 602.
Iseidunensis on German book inscription,
591.
— "Sad are the rose leaves," &c., 197.
Island, its derivation, 49. 209. 279. 374. 504.
Isle of Dogs, early notice of, 263.
Islip font, 363.
Israel ben Isaac on Gentile names of Jews,
655.
Italian-English— German-English, &c., 436.
638.
** Its," instances of its early use, 12. 182.
254.
J.
J. on admission to Lincoln's Inn, &c., 540.
ComptonPark, pictures of the withered
hand, 125.
—— rents of assize, &c., 81.
— Theodore Paleologus, 526.
— Walpole (Sir Robert), his medal, 57.
Jack and Gill, early use of, 87.
Jackson (E. S.) on inscription of Theodore
Paleologus, 408.
— .- love charm from a foal's forehead,400.
— — *' till " and ** until," their etymology,
409.
* Jacobite garters, 586.
Jahn's Jahrbuch, 34. 112.
James (F.) on watch -paper inscriptions,
316.
James I., folk lore in his reign, 613.
James (John) on ringing bells at death, 601.
Jan on tent for collodion, 301.
Jardine (D.) on rapping no noveltr, 512L
Jarllzberg on "Antiquitas sasculi Juventus
mundi," 502.
— — high church and low church, 117.
— — living one's life over again, 43.
party similes of the seventeenth cen-
tury, 485.
pictorial Common Prayer Books, 446w
" The Good Old Cause," 44.
Jaytee on Captain Booth, 184.
J. (B.) on Dotinchem, 375.
Ravailliac, 479.
— > school libraries, 395.
J. (C.) on ancient fortifications, 78.
mayors and sheriffs, 605.
Jebb (John) on berefellarii, 550.
translation of Psalm cxxvii. 3., 641. ** ■
Jeifcock (J. T.) on derivation of sincere,
399.
Jeroboam of claret, 421.
Jesuit on Father Traves, 565L
Jcu d 'esprit, a French one, 242.
Jewish custom, 618.
Jews in China, 515. 626.
Jews, their Gentile names, 563. 655.
J. (F. W.) on Anathema, maran-atha, 100.
— — Aquae in vinum conversse, 242.
— — burial in erect posture, 233.
— — change of meaning in proverbial ex*
pressions, 624.
life, 44.
lines on woman, 3.50.
passage in King Lear, 4.
St. Luke and Juvenal. 372.
•• Sat cito, si sat bene," 87.
J. (G, H.) on the word humbug, 64.
J. (H.) on autobiographical sketch, 350.
Dr. Whitaker's ingenious Earl, 9. !
J. (J. E.) on wooden tombs, 604.
J. (J. H.) on Greek and Roman fortifica-
tion, 469.
Hellas, names of its early inhabitants,
27.
J. (J. W.) on Lord Halifax and Mrs. C.
Barton, 543.
J. (M. H.) on Porter family, 576.
Job, passage in, 205.
John of Gaunt, his descendants, 155. 263.
noses of his descendants, 318.
* John (St.) and his partridge, 197.
John (St) of Jerusalem, order of, 61. 99.557.
Johnson (Andrew) noticed, 589.
Jolinson (Goddard) on the crescent, 653.
Johnston (T. B.) on camera lucida, 503.
stereoscopic angles, 157.
Jokes, old, 146.
Jones (T.W.) on pronunciation of Coke, 54.
Done pedigree, 57.
Jonson (Ben), his burial posture, 455.
J. (P.) on Milton at Eyford House, Glof*
ter, 290.
J. (T.) on Burton's descendants, 271.
enigmatical epitaph, 147.
Hampden's death, 495.
Lord Audley's attendants at Poictiert»
494.
J. (T. S.) on " That Swinney," 213. 238.
Judas Iscariot, his descendants, 56. 134. '
Judges stvled Reverend, 158. 276. 351. 631.
Judicial families. 384.
* Juger, the measurement of the Roman,^
36ri.
Julius IIL, advice supposed to have been
fiven to him, 54.
unius, his vellum-bound copies, 8.
Junius's Letters, was Thomas Lord Lyttel*
ton their author? 31.
J. (Y. B. N.) on David's mother, 599.
—• gale of rent, 563.
" Getting into a scrape," 29SL
— parochial libraries, 274.
Politian's epitaph. 537.
— . Windsor military knights, 891.
K.
* Kaminagadeyathooroosoomokanoogona*
gira, iU translation, 539. 651»
Kalfiilt*)! rnn.) 1
V WniHB'c Wnki,
— — iBDnamaul bru M VvmSp^ 9U.
lupeniliioa iiilinl ittc Una ntdle
Lricntv.m.
KdwiiT (J.) H tot LaHit, SIS
lutMlW «tMu1. su.
— virMt. £hfh wm.a^m.
" wh«» QiuliiM mm dom," SOS
■ Kemble, WUM, ■ndmibaimpllnn on
Km (Bp ), hi
Biibsp)^ hia BtS Aar^j 470^
K*Ti (J^. nT» ^uin ^U taB|
K. (F.)°SrV —
K. (O.^
K (H. C.) sr> sm s^Vuk m. tU.
^wkwwri.iUttflKttotJ.ia.
* — beUkD, ik styniohiry. »«
*■ ifhgAte*," In Shiapeaw, 398;
^— tjl) m illllMi idH. fS.
grimim«r In rclatiaii id lotfc, nt>
. E«iiMtc«iHrft*,97.
liland. IB dRinMn^W ITS. S7C
4S&
^ W^JS* (srr'',tatt«nn noticed, sm
Klckn-eadna in Yockiliin, S».
KllkRiny, the SUtBte-oT, BO.
Kla«(AbiL)n<idced.M.
KiniCDiDiDM W,)aB<nKHptioniDDD(.
daJe'i TotUDHB, 159.
judBMMjIed Rc.arenil, 158. 351,
Lir*. on llilnr aver luitb M Sm.
Lif htrrwt lAu*) notCni^n. m.
LiiUrlan Suf" ■" — — ^ — _.— .
LIna, ald,ie<iilTn«ind,1S.
Un ton ( W. J. 1 on KeC ttw tuner^ n&
Uil> itaillTt «!.
• LtRKcMt: SiMlm PBpbMii, ttft
• Unle ailTR in DHunililn, 1^
" -'ttwarnbritallaiBn.as.m.
The Sjwtem of Lmr, 389.
Henn !tCD)l*lt 483.
nnidelulrtin delicti, sn.
* Leimui<E>Tl art. hli portrill, tsD.
Lenlhill (f! KiMit) on
Mrlhplue.3lfl.«!a.
INDEX.
671
IL on Celtic and Latin languages, 174.
>— — chronograms and anagrams, 4S.
divining-rod, 350.
— — law and usage, £89.
— — Maiiicbaean ^ames, 289.
Mrs. Catherine Barton, 258.
— - names reversible, 244.
— — > Newton and Somers, 78.
— — Pilgrim's Progress, Part in., 222.
i— proverb, " Vaut mieux," &c., 220.
Shakspeare, first folio, 220.
— ^ straw-paper, 491.
watch-paper inecription, SIS.
M. (2) on Haulf-naked Manor, 350.
passage in Sophocles, 478.
" Well's a fret," 258. 330.
/A. on barnacles, 300.
binders of the Harleian library, 335.
divining rod, 400.
Greek inscription on a font, 352.
— — Waugh, Biiihop of Carlisle, 400.
M. (A. C.) on red hair, US.
Little Silver, 150.
Napoleon's thunder-storm, 148.
— oaken tombs, 180.
—— praying to the West, 343.
* Mac Adam, epigram on, 441.
MacCuUoch (Edgar) on Cornish folk
GIB.
Devonianisms, 654.
Maces, spiked, in abbey church, Great
Malvern, 254.
Macgillivray (Professor), 467. 584.
Mackenzie (Kenneth R. H.) on Zend gram-
lore,
mar, 491.
Mackey (Sampson Arnold) noticed, 468.
565.
Macleane (Lachlan), notice of, 619.
Macray (John) on advertisements and pro-
spectuses, 562.
i— arms of De Sissonne, 327.
D. Ferrand, 329.
Fete des Chaudrons, 161.
Jahn's Jahrbuch, 112.
•~— manuscripts dispersed, 434.
— Professor Hilgei's treatise, 52.
Pi ofcssor Macgillivray, 584.
— • revocation of the Fidict of Nantes,
639.
. St. Paul's Epistles to Seneca, 88.
.— - Scotch newspapers, 161.
table-turning, 131.
Mactavish (Duncan) on Celtic and Latin
languages, 280.
Madden (.Sir F.) on Bale's MSS. referred to
by Tanner, 311.
, was Thomas Lord L}ttelton "Ju-
nius"? 31.
Magnet symbolical of love, 280.
Maitland (Dr. S. R.) on clerical duel, 7.
Majority, the attainment of, 198. 250. 296.
371.541.
Malachy (St.), prophecy on the Popes, 390.
Malatesti and Milton, 237. 295.
* Mallet's second wife, 272.
Malta, Knights of, letters to the grand
master.*, 99. 557.
—— English, Irish, and Scotch knights,
189.
Mammet, its derivation, 515. 655.
Mammon, an idol god, 173. 223.
Manichsan games, 289.
Manliness, its meaning, 94. 127.
Mansel (H. L.) on battle of Villers en
Couch e, 370.
* Manuscript fragments, 77.
* Manuscript, the earliest historical, 340.
Manuscripts, dispersion of parts of, 434.
Marcarnes, the family of, 365. 572<
Mardel, or mardle, its derivation, 411. 577.
Margoliouth (Moses) on " Could we with
ink," &C., 180. 64a
Hebrew Testament, 196.
Psalm cxxvii. 2., 519.
—— query from the Hymmalayas, 339.
* Margoliouth's Hebrew Testament, 196.
Markland (J. H ) on Bishop Ken, 10.
Marlborough at Blenheim, 409.
Marriage custom at Knutsford, 617.
Marriage service, the fee and the ring, 150.
230.525.
Marriott (T. S.) on stereoscopic angles,
275.
" Marry, come up ! " explained, 9.
Marsh (J. F.) on Milton^s widow, 200.
vellum cleaning, 340.
Martin (John) on Caley's Ecclesiastical
Survey, 104.
on definition of a proverb, 304.
MottTus Utrris on Paetus and Arria, 374.
* Marty n the regicide noticed, 621.
* Martyr of Collet Well. 411.
* Mary of Lorraine, painting of, 538.
Mary Queen of Scots, medal and relic of,
293.444.
Wordsworth's lament of, 77.
* Mason (Lady), her third husband, 620.
Mathematicians, British, their lives, 541.
Matrimonial custom at Wellow, 490.
Mat o' the Mint on florin and royal arms,
621.
Malter-of-Fact on photographs in natural
colours, 228.
* Matthew's ^ Father) chickens, 469.
Matthews (Wm.) on electric telegraphs,
78.
Mauilies, Manillas, 278.
Mayer (Joseph), his museum at Liverpool,
522.
Mayors and sheriffs, their precedence, 1C6.
605.
M. (C. M.) on camera lucida, 354.
M. (C. R.) on the derivat on of Celt, 271.
M'Cree ( Wm.) on portrait of Hobbes, 453.
* M'Dowall family, 563.
M. (E ) on curfew at Sandwich, 466.
" Qui facit per alium facit per se,"
422.
— — " Salus populi suprema lex," 410.
Medical education, foreign, 341. 398. 502.
Medicus on foreign medical education, 341.
— — sneezing, 366.
Megatherium Americanum, 19. 109.
M. (E. J.) on ♦* green eyes," 593.
Memnon (Prince), his sister, 622.
Merritt (T. L.) on new developing mixture,
549.
stereoscopic angles, 109. 419.
Mctaouo on Seven Whisperers, 436.
Mewburn (F.) on Chandler, Bishop of Dur-
ham, 341.
M. (F.) on Captain Jan Dimmeson, 469.
— - Court. House, Painswick, 493.
poetical tavern signs, 452.
strut stowers and yeathers, 233.
M. (F.), Malta^ on collodion negatives, 629.
M. (F. T.) on History of York, 524.
M. (G.) on " Adrian turn'd the bull," 79.
M. (G. R.) on lines from the Christian
Year, 577.
Marcarnes family, 365.
M. (H.) on fossil trees between Cairo and
Suez, 126.
^— . Glover's handwriting, 589.
Indian proper name, 651.
>— > King Lear, 97.
— — member of parliament electing him-
self, 586.
Michaelmas goose, inquiry respecting, 368.
Middleton (F. M.) on Cambridgeshire folk
lore, 382.
Hampshire folk lore, 617.
passage in Tennyson, 399.
Militaris on military music temp. Charles L,
80.
* Military music, 80.
Milton's Allegro, passage in, 249.
Milton and Malatesti, 237. 295.
Milton at Eyford- House, Gloster, 290.
Milton's descendants, 339. 630.
* Latin Familiar Correspondence, 640.
Lycidas, 497.
« Paradise Lost, 388.
widow, her family, 12. 134. 200. 375.
452. 454. 544. 594.
* Mineral acids, 339.
* Minshull (Randall) and his Cheshire Col-
lections, 467.
Minshull (Handle), fother of Milton's
widow, 12. 134. 200. 375. 452. 544. 594.
Minstrelsy, Midland County, 257.
* Mirrour to all who follow the Wars, 151.
Misapplication of terms, 537.
* Misaubin (Dr.) noticed, &
Mi8<}uotation8, recent, 315. 513.
* Mistletoe query, 621.
Mistranslations, curious, 201.
Mitred abbot in Wroughton Church, Wilts,
411.576.
M. (J.) on Harmony of the Four Gospels,
415.
H. Neale, editor of Shakspeare, 5391
library of St. Paul's School, 641.
—— Turkish and Russian Grammars, 561.
— Wellesley, its derivation, 173.
M. (J. F.^ on choirochorographia, 229.
Christ's cross, 18.
High Commission Court, 175.
— — inscription near Cirencester, 130.
^— Milton's descendants, 339. 594^
— — pistol, its early use, 7.
Shakspeare, critical digest of, 170.
M. (J. H.) on Baskerville the printer, 349.
Lord Ball of Bagshot, 365.
— .— St. Werenfrid and Butler's Lives, 34&.
M. (J. R.) on epigram by Sir Walter Scott,
575.
M. (J. T.) on Jane Scrimshaw, 441.
M'K. (J. D.) on foreign medical education,
502.
M. (K. N.) on albumenised paper, 501.
M. ^L A.) on Tusser's doxology, 440.
M. (M.) on legitimation in Scotland, 220.
M. {Navorscher) on Hendericus du Booys.
231.
Mn. ( J.) on " Short red, (Jod red," 398.
Mob, is it an English word ? 386. 524^ 573.
631.
Modena (Duke of) noticed, 34. 113.
Mona, its derivation, 291.
Monaldeschi, his murder, 34. 160.
Monk (General), his birth-place, 316. 453.
Monk, its etymology, 291. 527.
* Montague (Lord), his Household Book,
540.
* Montmartre, its etymology, 468.
* Monumental brass at Wanlip, 515.
abroad, 497.
Moon superstitions, 79. 145. 321.
* Moore (Francis) his parentage, 271.
Morgan (Octavius) on Delft manufacture,
Morgan (Professor A. De) on attainment of
majority, 250. 372.
.^— spurious edition of Baily's Annuities,
242.
Lord Halifax and Catherine Barton,
429.
Thomas Wright of Durham, 218.
Morlee and Lovel, 51.
Morrow of a feast, 412.
MosaffUr on a palindrome, 520.
Moses, the royal donkey, 488.
Mottos of German emperors, 170. 548.
Mousehdnt, a small animal, 516. 606.
M. (P.) on " Firm was their faith," &c., 564.
M. (R.) on curious posthumous occurrence,
2a'>.
M. (S.) on soke mills, 272.
Mt. (J.) on Browne's tragedy of Polidus,
159.
Robert Fairlie, 159.
— humbug explained, 161.
Jerningham and Doveton, 127.
M. (T. O.) on queries fVmn the Navorscher,
89.
Muff's worn by gentlemen, 63. 281. 353L
Muggers noticed, 34. 305.
Muirson (Patrick) on two passages in Shak-
speare, 384.
Mulciber, inquired after, 102. 185. 232.
Mulder (S. J.) on Dutch pottery, 183.
Murdoch (J. B.) on Margaret Patten, 442.
Muscipula, translated by Dr. Hoadly, 229.
550.
M. (W. L.) Lord Wm. Russeirs burial.
place, 100.
672
INDEX.
( W. M.) on Adamson** Lusitania, 104.
(W. T.) on " A saint in crape," "
M.
M. (W. T.) on " A saint in crape," 102.
*' As good as a play." 363.
" Chip in porridge," 206.
— . Clarence title, 565.
reeling of life, 550.
^— Ligurian sage, 389.
•• Pay the pi|>er," IfW.
" Pity is akin to love," 89.
** Priam's six-gated city," 288.
•^— quotation flrora Horace, 444.
>-— rhymes on places, 305.
— — storms at the death of great men, 493.
— Tennyson's Memoriam, 244.
Myrtle bee noticed, 173. 450. 593.
M. (Y. S.) on female parish clerk, 338.
Harrington, William, fifth Lord, 36&
— — noses of descendants of John of Gaunt,
318.
parish clerks* company, 341.
pedigree indices, 317.
— — Richard Oeering, 340.
Sir George Carr, 327.
Theobald le Botiller, 366.
— — Tottenham, its derivation, 318.
Urluin Vigors, 340.
Myihe versus Myth, 18.
N.
N. on Limerick, Dublin, and Cork, 102.
school libraries, 298.
N. (A.) on mineral acids, 339.
names of plants, 136.
N. (A. J.) on house-marks, 19.
Namby-pamby, and other words of the
same form, 318. 341.390.
Names in Bible and Prayer Book, how pro-
nounced, 469. 590 630.
Names reversible, 344. 375. 655.
Naphtali on anonymous poet, 127.
Napier (Sir Charles) and the conquest of
Scinde, 490. 574. 631.
* Naples and the Campagna Felice, S3.
* Napoleon, anecdote of, 292.
Napoleon's bees, 30.
spelling, 386. 502.
•— ^ thunderstorm, 148.
* Nash the artist, 79.
N. (D.) on Lewis and SewcU families, 521.
621.
N. (D. Y.) on the Porter family, 364.
Nedlam on snail-eating, 128.
* Neele (H.), editor of Shakspeare, 539.
Nemo on death of Falstaff, 314.
Newans (Thomas), a prophet, 381.
Newburiensis on Francis Browne, 639.
Sir George Brown, 243. 301.
— — poetical tavern signs, 569.
— worm in books, 5^6.
Newington on Milton's widow, 595.
Newman (W.) on *• The Devil on Two
Sticks," 413.
Newspapers in Scotland, the earlier, 57.
Newspapers, notes on, 333.
Nevvstead Abbey, 2.
New Testament, an early edition, 219. 277.
Newton (Mr. Justice) noticed, 15. 110.
* Newton (Sir Isaac) and Flamsteed, 102.
* and his half-niece, 429.
• and Somers, 78.
* his memorial, 172.
on railway travelling, 34. 65.
* New Universal Magazine, inquiry respect-
ing, 639.
New Year's Eve and New Year's Day, cus-
torn on, 618.
N. (G.) on books burned by the hangman,
626.
^^ hour- glass in pulpits, 83.
lines on the institution of the Garter,
479.
medal of Mary Queen of Scots, 444.
— — old Fogie, 455.
N. (G. E. T. S. K.) on chronograms in
Sicily, 562.
Gentile names of the Jews, 563.
St. Clement's apple-feast, 618.
N. (H.) on anticipatory use of the cross,
and ringing of belU for the dead, 417.
Nicholas (Emperor), his manifesto, 585.
Nicholas (St.), his performances on Christ-
mas Eve, 615.
Nightingale and thorn, 527.
Nightingale's song, 112. 475. 651.
Nimmo (Thos.) on an inediied letter of
Henry VIII., 510.
Nine as a multiple, 149. 305.
Nixon the prophet, 257. 326.
* Noel family, 316.
No Judge on piccalyly, 8.
* Nonjurors, sources for their history, 621.
Norfolk (Margaret, Duchess of), her arms,
84.
Norman of Winster, 126. 302.
North (Lord), a woodcut of, 18a 230. 303.
Nostradamus, edition of 1605, 552.
Novus on advice given to Julius III., 54.
Noxid on cement of glass-baths, 397.
N. (S.) on Earl of Oxford, and the creation
of peers, 292.
helmets over shields, 538.
Nugget, not an Americanism, 375. 481.
Nuneham Regis, discovery at, 101.
Nursery rhymes, 452. 605.
* Nursrow, origin of the word, 538.
$. (QSr.)> epigram on M' Adam, 441.
N. ( W.) on Aristotle's checks, 98.
N. (W. L.) on MS. of Spenser's Fairy
Queen, 357.
Oak, how to clean old, 45. 58.
Oak, veneration for the, 468. 632.
Oaken tombs, &c , 179. 454.
* Oasis, how accented, 410.
Oaths as taken by the English and Welsh,
364. 471. 605.
Oaths of pregnant women, 503.
Obnoxious, its diflfbrent meanings, 439.
* O'Brien (Nelly) noticed, 4M).
Observer on Lord North, 303.
O. (D. N.) on passage in Blackwood, 493.
Offertory alms, superstition respecting, 617.
O. (J.) on Alexander Clark, 517.
— — books burned by the hangman, 346.
—— impossibilities of our forefathers, 559.
parish clerks and politics, 56.
Patrick Carey, 406.
Peter Brett, 533.
Robert Drury, 104.
Temple lands in Scotland, 480.
— Thomas Newans, a prophet, 381.
William Blake, 69. 435.
* Okey the regicide, 620.
Oldenshaw (C.) on song by Dr. Lisle, 281.
Old Grumbleum on punning devices, 376.
Oldham, Bishop of Exeter, 183.
Oliver on Rathband family, 493.
Omega on pues or pews, 127.
Omicron on humbug, its derivation, 575.
Osborne family, 448.
Osborn Alius Herfasti, 654.
Wellington's first victorv, 491.
O. (P. A.) on post-office about 1770, 8.
* Orange blossom, 341.
O. (R. A. S.) on St. George family pic-
tures, 104.
Orton (Job), the publican, bis burial, 59.
Osborn family, 270. 448.
Osborn filius Herfasti, 515. 654.
Osmotherly in Yorkshire, tradition of, 617.
O'Sullivan (Wm.) on Gurney's short-hand,
589.
Oswald (Richard) noticed, 442. 549.
Outlawe (Roger) noticed, 5.
* Owen (Dr. Charles) noticed, 492.
Owen (Hugh) on yellow bottles for chemi-
cals, 1 10.
Oxford commemoration squib, 1849, 584.
Oxford (Earl of), and the creation of peers,
292.392.
Oxoniensis on " Amentium haud aman-
tium," 19.
Nightingale's song, 112.
pure, its singular use, 125.
P.
Packington (Lady), supposed author of the
Whole Duty of Man, 564.
Paget (Arthur) on Lisle famUy, 48S.
Milton's widow, 452.
— Synge family, 42a
teaching a dog French, 58L
Paget family, 12. 134. 200. 375. 452.
Pagoda, 401. 523.
Paint, how taken off of old oak, 45. 58.
Palaeologus (Theodore), bis inscription,
408. 526.
* Pale, its meaning, 78.
Paley's plagiarism, 589.
Palindromes, 520.
Panama, the Isthmus of, 144.
Paper, how split, 413. 604
Parallel passages, 90. 195. 372. 465. 560.
* Parchment deeds, on cleansing soiled, 270.
Pardon churchyard, 63.
Parish clerk, a female, 33a 474.
Parish clerks and imlitics, 56. 930, 575.
clerks' company, 341. 4^.
•— — registers, lines prefixed to, SO.
* Park, the antiquary, 8.
* Parker (Abp.), his correspondence, 149.
* Parliament, a member of, fleeting him-
self, 586.
Parochial Ubraries, 62. 274. 327. 369.527.
595.
Parr (Dr.), his letter on Milton, 433.
Party, its earliest use, 1S7.
Party names in the seventeenth century.
117.
Party-similes of the seventeenth century,
485.
Parvise explained, 161.
Pascal, a saying of his, 44.
Pater-noster, the white, 614.
* Patriarchs of the Western Church, 317.
Patrick (Bp. Simon) noticed, 103. 205.
* Patrick (St.), or Maune and Man, 291.
Patrick's purgatory, 178. 327.
Patten (Margaret), her picture, 442.
* *• Pay the Piper," its origin. 19a
P. (C. J.) on fishermen's custom at Ward-
house, 78
Peacock (Edw.) on ecclesiastical centure,
466.
Francis Moore, 271.
hour-glass in pulpits, 83. 279.
— — North Lincolnshire folk lore, 382.
Sir William Hewet, 652.
— — weather rules, 50.
Peasantry, popular stories of the English,
94.
" Peccavi ! I have Scinde," 490. 574.
Pedigree indices, 317. 453.
* Pedigree to the time of Alfred, 586.
" Peg" or « nail," for an argument, 561.
* Pelasgi, a sorrowful race, 516.
Pembrokiensis on tomb of Henry I., 411.
Pennycomequick, its derivation, 8. 113.
184.255.
Pepys (Samuel) and East London Topo-
graphy, 26a
his grammar, 466. 502.
* ^— his queries, 341.
Percy (Lady), wife of Hotspur, 104. 184.
251.
* Perfect tense, its rationale, 410.
Perseverant, its early use. 44.
Persius Flaccus (Aulus), his birth-place.
389.
Personage, a mysterious one, S4. 113.
Perthensis on Alexander Clark, 18.
— . aliases and initials of authors, 124.
Peterborough Cathedral, inscription in,
215. 303.
* Peter the Great, his will, 539.
Petheram (John) onr Sir Thomaa Button's
Voyages, 385.
* Petrarch's Laura, 562.
P. (Francis) on heraldic query. 220.
P. (G.) on the meaning ot trash, 135.
P. ( H.) on crosses on stoles, 411.
French Prayer Books, 478.
love charm nom a Ami's forehead, 292.
INDEX.
673
^. on ampen and, S54.
_— yew-trees in churchyards, 316.
^. (2) on stereoscopic angles, 16.
S). on chronicles ot kings of Israel, 561.
—— non-recurring diseases, 516.
Ph. on oaths of pregnant women, 503.
— — pagoda, 401.
i. i. on standard of weights and measures,
340,
Phantom bells, 576.
Pharaoh's ring, 416. 521.
Philadelphia Directories, 168.
Philadelphia, the early delights of, 537.
Philharmonicus on Weber's Cecilia, 589.
Philip III. of Spain, his death, 583.
Philo- Handel on Handel's Dettingen Te
Deum, 388.
Philo-Pho. on ammonio-nitrate of silver,
204.
a. («.) on book inscriptions, 64.
vttrcy^ec^cf on Dr. Diamond's calotype pro-
cess, 572.
Photography : —
aceto-nitrate of silver, 649.
albumenised paper, 395. 5U1. 548.572.
albumenised process, 549.
ammonio-nitrate, is it dangerous ? 134.
158. 204. 27&
baths for collodion process, 42.
calotype process, 548. 572. 596.
camera obscura, 41.
cameras, their lining, 157.
cement for glass baths, 397.
clouds in photo^^raphs, 451. 477. 501.
collodion negatives, 629.
collodion pictures, 181.
collodion process, 41, 42. 46.
cyanuret of potassium, 157.
developing mixture, 5^.
Dr. Diamond's collodion process, 41.
133.
.— lecture on the calotype process,
596.
engraving, 628.
gallo-nitrate of silver, 17.
glass chambers, 133.
iodizing paper, 46.
Ingleby's Essay on the Stereoscope,
401. 451.
lenses, 133. 476.
Lyle's three new processes, 252. 373.
— — treatment of positives, 15.
manuscripts copied, 456. 5Ul.
minuteness of detail on paper, 1.')7.
Muller's process, 203. 253. 275. 451.
multiplication of photographs, 85. 157.
negative paper, 203.
photographic exhibition, 476.
photographs by artificial light, 228.
photographs in natural colours, 228.
Pollock's process, 17.
positives, 15. 17. 397. 451.
precision in photographic proce8ses,301.
protonitrate of iron, 228.
printing on albumenised paper, 324.
Pumphrey's process for black tints,
349.
restoration of old collodion, 650.
Sisson's developing solution, 157. 181.
253. SOI. 37a
stereoscopic angles, 16. 109. 157. 181.
227. 275. 348. 419. 451. 476. 501.
Stewart's new photographic process,60.
pantoRraph, 301.
tent for collodion, 301.
yellow bottles for chemicals, 86. 110.
* Phrases, Dictionary of English, 292.
Piccadilly, a collar, 467.
Piccalyly, its origin, 8. 110.
Picior on epitaph in Wing6e1d Church, 98.
Picts' houses in Aberdeenshire, 264. 392.
551.
Pierrepont (John), his descendants, 303.
Pigs said to see the wind, 100.
Pilgrim's Progress, Part 111., 222.
Pimlico on *' Tub to a whale," 220.
Pinkerton ( W.) on Cambridge and Ireland,
350.
Pinkerton (W.) on fishermen's custom at
Wardhouse, 281.
Land of Green Ginger, 606.
— Megatherium Americanum, 109.
mysterious personage, 34.
— nightingale epithets, 475.
*' Pinece with a stink," 496.
poem attributed to Shelley, 183.
Pistol (fire-arms), its earliest use, 7. 137.
P. (J.) on marriage of cousins, 387.
P. (JO jun. on Lord Audley's attendants,
573.
P. (J. R.) on arrow.mark, 440.
daughter pronounced dafter, 504. ;
Planets, the discovery of, 601.
Plantin Bibles in 1600, 537.
Plants, wild, and their names, 35. 136. 207.
Plat (Sir Hugh) noticed, 495.
Players, an interpolation o<' the, 147.
Plum, origin of the word, 65. 654.
Ply on lens for negatives, 158.
Poema del Cid, with glossary and notes,
367. 574.
* Poems and songs in MS., 587.
Polarised light, 409. .552.
Politian, his epitaph at Florence, 537.
* Politics, their influence on fashion, 515.
* Poll tax in 1641, 340.
Polonius on Ireland a bastinadoed elephant,
523.
Pope and Cowper, 383.
* Pope's Elegy on an unfortunate lady,
539.
Popes, St. Malachy's prophecies on, 390.
* Popham (Sir John) and Littlecott, 218.
Porcpisee or porpoi&e, 2li8.
Porridge, the Book of Common Prayer, so
called, 486.
Porter family, 364. 526. 576.
Porter (liquor), early use of the word, 9.
* Post-otfice about 1770, 8.
riddles for, 185.
Potenger's unpublished letter, 53.
Pots used by members of the Temple, 171.
256. 574.
Pottery, Dutch, 183.
* Poyntz (Gabriel), his arms, 440.
P. (P.) on books chained in churches, 453.
ladies' arms borne in a lozenge, 329.
652.
point of etiquette, 527.
slow-worm superstition, 328.
P. (P. P.) on consecrated roses, 38.
Prayer Book, French translation, 343. 478.
Prayer Books, early editions, 318.
pictorial editions, 446.
prior to 1662, 504.
Praver, occasional forms of, 535.
* Presbyterian titles, 126.
Pretenders, their births and deaths, 565.
Price (R.) on Latin riddle in Aulus Gellius,
243.
proverbial expressions, 624.
Prideaux (JO on Wm. Cook worthy, 585.
Prie dieu, ancient furniture, 101. 183.
Printers' grammars, &&, 62.
Proclamations, collection of, 528.
* Property, the right of redeeming, 516.
Prophet — Thomas Newans, 381.
Proverbial expressions, change of meaning
in, 464. 624.
Proverbs, definition of one, 243. 304. 523.
—— pictorial, 20.
quoted by Suetonius, 86.
weather, 218.
* wedding, 150.
— — Miscellaneous : —
As good as a play, 363.
Dover Court; all speakers and no
hearers, 9.
Hauling over the coals, 125. 280. 524.
Put a spoke in his wheel, 269. 351.
522. 576.
Putting your foot into it, 77. 159.
* Raining cats and dogs, 565.
* The full moon brings fine weather,
79.
* Vaut mieux avoir affaire, &c., 220.
Proverbs {Miscellaneous) : —
Tread on a worm and it will turn,
464. 624.
When the maggot bites, 244. 304. 353.
526.
Psalm cxxvii. 2., translation of, 387. 519.
641.
P. (S. C.) on high and low Dutch, 413.
P. (T.) on Stoffordshire knot, 220.
Pues or pews, its correct spelling, 127.
Pugillus on Andrew Johnson, 5H9.
Pullen (Rev. Josiah) noticed, 489.
PulpiU of stone, 562.
Pulteney (Sir John de) noticed, 263.
Pumphrey ( Wm.) on procuring black tints.
Pun, a pictorial one, 385.
Punning devices, 270. 376.
* divine, 586.
Pure, a peculiar use of the word, 125. 230.
352.
P. ( W.) on *' A mockery, 'a delusion, and a
snare," 24*.
Willingham boy, 305.
P. (W H.) on church temporalities, 412.
humming ale, 245.
— — Major Andre, 277.
Q. on Ashman's Park, 376.
etymology of awk, 602.
etymology of bad, 207.
belike, its etymology, 600.
— — enough, its pronunciation, 210.
— — lad and lass, their etymology, 210.
lowbell, its etymology, 208.
*' mob " and cash," 573.
— ~- Macbeth, a passage in, 217.
Naples and the Campagna Felice, 33.
perseverant, 44.
i)orc-pisee, its etymology, 208.
portrait of Sir A. Wingfield, 245.
quarrel, its etymology, 206.
scheltrum, its orthography, 206.
spur, its meaning, 209.
"spoke in his wheel," 576.
tenet, or tenent, 602.
unkid, its meaning, 604.
voiding knife, 232.
windfalls, 14.
* Quadrille, its derivation, 441.
Quaesitor on " The Whole Duty of Man,"
564.
Quarles and Pascal, 172.
Quarrel, its derivation, 206.
Quarter, as sparing life, its origin, 246. 353.
* Queen at chess,-469.
Questor on ** the apple of the eye," 204.
discovery of planet.«, 601.
epitaph at Crayford, 363.
Quotations : —
Alterius orbis Papa, S54.
Amentium baud amantium, 19. 89. 136.
A mockery, a delusion, and a snare,
244. 302.
Antiquitas Sseculi Juventus Mundl,
5U2. 651.
Aquae in vinum converse, 242.
A saint in crape, 102. 208.
* Celsior exsurgens pluviis, &c., 220.
* Chew the bitter cud of disappoint-
ment, 103.
Could we with ink the ocean fill, 127.
180. 257. 422. 522. 648.
Crowns have their compass, 376.
* Cutting off the little heads of light, 56.
Earth says to earth, &c., 110. 353.
Firm was their faith, the ancient
bands, 564.
From the sublime to the ridiculous,
177.
Homo unius libri, 440. 569L
Horace, De Arte Foetica, 444.
* in copy of the Pugna Porcorum, 151.
In necessariis unitas, 197. 281.
Inter cuncta micans, 230.
674
INDEX.
«
«
«
«
«
«
Quotations : —
Johnson's turgid style, 366. 5S6.
* Latin quotations, 197. S81. 353.
* Uke one who wakes flrom pleasant
sleep, fi9S.
Limerick, Dublin, and Cork, 102. 257.
Magna est Veritas et praeTalebit, 77.
Man proposes, but Uod disposes, 411.
552.
Mater ait natc, &&, 160.
Never ending, still brainning, 103. 162.
Now the fierce bear, &c.. 440. 577.
Oh for a voice of that wild horn, 622.
Pinece with a stink, 270. S5U. 496.
Pity is akin to love, 89.
* Plus occidit gula, 292.
Populus vult decipi, &c., 65. 52SL
luem Deus vult perdere, 73.
)ui facit per aliuin, 231. 422.
;uid facies, facies veneris, &c., 539.
Sad are the rose leaves, 197.
Sat cito si sat bene, 18. 87.
Scire ubi aliquid in venire posses, &c,
587.
Solamen miseris, &&, 272.
Suaviter in modo, fortiter in re, 586.
To know ourselves diseased, 219.
Too wise to err, too good to be un-
kind. 539.
* Trail through the leaden sky, 494.
Up, guards, and at 'em! 111. i 84. 204.
275.
Veni,' vidi, vici, 400.
Virgin wife and widowed maid, 56.
230.
* We've parted for the longest time,
388.
What does not fade f 366.
When we survey yon circling orbs,
515.
Wilderness of monkeys, 413.
R.
R on Baskerville's burial, 423.
gloves at fairs, 136.
R. (A. B.) on barnacles, SOa
Coleridge's Christnbcl, 111.
lines on the institution of the Garter,
182.
— lines typifying Tyranny, 56.
RadcliflFb (J. N.) on Huggins and Muggins,
503.
—^ moon superstitions, 322.
RaflTaeUe's Sposalisio, 14. 574.
Railway travelling foretold, 54. 65.
Rainbow, odour flrom the, 158.
Raleigh (Sir Walter) caUed <* Our English
Milo," 495.
* .—— his descendants, 78.
—^ his supposed scepticism, 267.
Rapping no novelty, 512. 632.
* Rathbane family, 493.
Rathe, or early, 208.
Ravilliac noticed, 219. 479.
Rawlinson (Robert) on falsified gravestone
at Stratfonl, 124.
—- meteorology of Shakspeare, 336w
Shakspeare emendations, 51.
R. (C.) on history of the Ntmjurors, 621.
R. (C. I.) on ** Could we with ink," ike,
180.
♦• Fag," or after, math, 229,
Oarrick Street. May Fair, 411.
— La F6te des Chaudrons. 57.
— — poetical tavern signs, 627-
R. (C. T.) on ** Amentium baud Aman.
tium," 136.
Reader on Norman of Winster, 302.
Sir Arthur Aston, 302.
R. (E B.) on mou.tehunt, 606.
** Rebellious Prayer," a poem, 19.
* Receipt or Recipe, 583.
Rector on marriage service, 525.
Red hair, 86. 522.
Reed (Charles) on Haulf- Naked manor, 205.
«— palindromes, 520.
^— shoe thrown for luck, 377.
Reformed faith temp. Hen. Vlli. 135.
R. (E. O.) on artificial drainage, 493.
" Could we with ink," Ac. S2S.
— longevity2255.
— mardle, 577.
Northamptonshire folk lore, 916.
rowans, or rawins, 229.
strut.stowers, 233L
Reglum Donum, its origin, 517.
R. (E. M.) on Mackey's Mythological As-
tronomy, 567.
Rents of Assise, ftc, 81.
Reynolds' nephew, 102. 232.
Reynolds* portrait of Baretti, 411.
Reynolds (Sir Joshua), his baptism, 513.
R. (F.) on female parish clerk, 475.
R (G. H.) on <' C\>uld we with ink," &&,
648.
R. (G. M.) on Charles Fox and Gibbon,
312.
R. (II. P. W.) on Sir Ralph Win wood,
272.
Rhymes, designed false English, 249. 602.
Rhymes on placet, 905. 466. 615.
Richard I., notices of, 72.
Richard, King of the Romans, his arms,
265. 454. 653.
Richard's Guide through France^ 534.
Richardson (John) on dog-whipping day in
Hull. 409.
'^— Land of Green Ginger, 227.
Richmond in Yorkshire, vault at, 388. 573.
Richmond (Margaret, Couiitess of), her
arms, 84.
Riddle in Aulus Gellius, 243. 322.
Ridley (T. D.) on muggers, 305.
— Pelasgi, 516.
quotation from Walter Scott, 376.
Riggs (Romulus), an American name,f>38.
Riley (H. T.) on Abigail, 42.
— — angeUbeast — cleek — longtriloo, 63.
1 ac on or beechen, 63.
burial in unconsecrated ground, 43.
— dissimulate, its early use, 10.
Dover Court, 9.
->-— Hans Krauwinckcl, 63.
— — humbug, its etymology, 64.
— ** Marry come upl " 9.
— <— mugger, 34.
pictorial proverbs, 20.
porter (liquor), early use of the word, 9.
rub-a-dub. 63.
— ^ Shaksfieare's Tempest, passage in, 45L
Sir Heister Ryley, 9.
snail-eating, 34.
Rimbault (Dr. E. F.) on Abp. Chlcbeley,
350.
— Discovery of the Inquisition, 350.
— ^ ffroaning-boHrd, 309.
Jacob Bobarf. 344.
palace at Enfield, 352.
Sir John Vanbrugb, 352.
— — ' ** When Orpheus went down," S97.
Ring finger, 61.574.
Ring money, called Manillas, 278.
* Rings formerly worn by ecclesiastics, 387.
Rings, a chapter on, 416.
Rix (S. W.) on Cromwell's portrait, 55.
hour-glass in pulpits, 83. 209.
parochial libraries. 62.
R. (J.) on Les Lettres Juives, 541.
—— nursery rhymes, 452.
R. (J. C.) on Christian names, 63.
Calvin's correspondence, 62.
Order of John of Jerusalem, 61.
— ring finger, 61.
R. (J. &) on origin of Rundlestone, 317.
R. (L. D.) on passage in Boerhaave, 602.
R. (L. M. M.) on German phrase, 150.
mysterious personage, 113.
Pretenders' births and deaths, 565.
praying to the West, 102.
R. (M. W.) on Sir Anthony Fitsherbert,
576.
R. (N.) on the nursrow, 538.
Roberts (Chris.) on Dr. Robert Cary, 79.
Harmony of the Four Gospels, 416.
Robin Hood's festival, 622.
Robson (W.) on aldress, 503.
Rbbson (W.) on crctoenl, iti orl(fn m a
standard. 196.
i^— interpolation of the playtn, 147.
Spanish play-bill, 336.
* Roden'scolt,S4a
Rogers (Dr. John)* hit workt, ITt.
Roman Catholic Bible Society, 491
Roman remains at Durham, 466.
* Romanists confined in Ely, 79.
Rome and the number six, 490.
epigrams on, 584.
* Rondall (Rev. W.) noticed, 515.
Rose (.Samuel), bis leUer on Pope wid
Cowper, 383L
Roslcrucians, 106. 175.
« Rothwell fkmily, 943.
* Rounceval, Our Lady-of, 340.
* Royalty dining in publle, two paintlnga
of, 538.
R. (R. I.) on rapping no tmvelty, 6SSL
R. (R J.) on divining-rod, 479.
R. (S.) on Dr. John Tkylor, 299.
-— passage in Milton, 249L
selling a wife, 90a
Rub-a-dub, Its early u.<e, 63.
* Rubens's MS. on painting, 539.
Rubi on book inscriptions, 64.
— — poetical tavern signs, 568b
•—— weather proverbs, 218.
Rubrical query, 207.
Ruby on ladies* arms borne in a loienge,
65a
* Rudd (Bn. Anthony), his monument, 9.
RuAis on Waugh, Bishop of Carlisle, 271.
Rulers of the world in 1853, 6i8.
* Rundlestone, origin of the term, 317.
Russell (Lord Wm.), his burlaLplace^ 100.
179.
Russian grammars, 561.
Russians, their religion, 582.
R (W.) on authors^ remuneration, 81.
burning for witchcraft 470.
R (W. B.) on Kentuh 'Town Assembly
House, S93.
* Ryley (Sir Heltter), hit Vltions, 9.
S.
S. on eclipse in 1263, 441.
2. on clouds in photographs, 451.
Saint Florendn (M. L. P.), aifat Duke do
la Vrillidre, 351.
Salmon (W. R D.) on mousehuut, 516.
myrtle bee, 173w 59a
— ^ stage-coaches, GOO.
Salopian on monumental Inscription, 268.
* Salter (Sir Ambrose Nicholas) noticed,
318
Saltueter maker, 225. 3S9.
** Salus popull suprema lex,** itt origin, 410.
S. (A.' M.) on hurrah ! 20.
Sams (Mr.), his Egyptian antiouitiet, 521.
Sandwich Islands discovered by Cook, 7.
108.
Sangaree, its derivation. 527.
Sansom (J.) on Bohn's Hoveden, 290.
arms of the see of York, 302.
-— Craton the philosopher, 603.
hurrah! S24.
Osbom filiusHerfluti, 515.
Reynolds's nephew, 238 ; hit baptism,
513L
Sir William Hankford, 278.
Sarah Anna on Broderie Anglaite^ 178L
« Savigny, Life of, 294.
* Saying, an old, '* Merry be the firtt,** l97.
Sackville (Lord George) noticed, 93H.
Sc on Rafikelle's'SpoMliBlo, Hw
selling a wife, 43.
* Scale of vowel toundt, 94.
Scheltrum, its derivation, 906.
School libraries, 220. 296. 395. 49a 64a
* Scobell (Henry), compiler of Collection
of Acts, 493.
Scotchmen in Ptdand, 131.
Scott (Francis John) on Celtic and Latin
languages, 353.
INDEX.
675
SoMt (Fnneti i^dhn) on chtymore, 965.
•— ^ llerce, a t^vincUdism, 35S.
— * Marcarne$» 573.
— i- muffii wotit bf mlllmrv men, 353.
' ■ lingular diator^ty of a cannon-ball,
366.
— meeting, Odi
Soott (John) on ladies* arms borne in a
losenge^ 1?77.
Scott (Sir Walter), unpublished epigram
by, S75.
Scottish National Recordi, 405.
-^— newspapers, early, 57. 161.
Scrape, ** Getting into a scrape,** origin of,
89i. 428. 601.
Serlbe (John) on Greek and Roman forti-
fications, 654.
* Scrimshaw (Jane) noticed, 441.
Scrymzeour on Scottish castles, 366.
& (D.) on battle of Villers en Couch6, 1S8.
Searson's Poems, 176L
Sea-serpent noticed, 40.
Seleucus on Adamsoniana, 135.
^■^ slow-worm superstition, 146.
— ^ snail-eating, 129.
snail-gardens, 161. " "
Semi-Tone on passage of Cicero, 640.
** Semper eadem," origin of the royal motto,
174. 255. 440.
Serpent with a human head, 304.
Serpents, notes on, 39.
Scrviens on anonynoous works, 174.
Mi^or Andre. 174. 644.
* Seven Oaks and Nine Elms, 34-
Sewell and Lewis famiUes, 388. 521. 621.
* Seymour (Col. Hyde) noticed, 388.
Seymour (Jane), her royal descent, 181.
251.
S. (G. L.) on History of Jesus Christ, 386.
Lepel's regiment, 504.
Sewell family, 621.
S. (O. S.) on creation of knights, 620.
— — Lady Mason's third husoand, 620.
Shadbolt (Geo.) on albumenised paper, 395.
-.^ clouds, how introduced, 477.
— — multiplication of photographs, 85.
— — stereoscopic angles, 227. 348. 476.
Shakspearb : —
fiacon (Lord) and Shakspeare. 438.
Ben Jonson's criticisms, 263. 313.
coincident suggestions on the text, 265.
Collier's Monovolume, 35. 338.
delighted, 241. 437.
digest of various readings, 74. 170. 362.
466.
emendations, 51. 75.
FalsUflT, his death. f63. 313, 314.
« first folio, reprint of, 220.
Jackson's emendations, 193.
meteorology of Shakspeare, 336.
paralleU, 240.
g>rtrait, 438. 538.
riam's six-gated city, 288. 375.
Professor Hilgers' Treatise, 52.
readings, 28. 168.
remonstrance respecting the Shak.
spearian discussions, 261.
skull, 217.
winds. North and South, 333.
passage in All's Well That Ends Well,
217.
As You Like It. 38a
Hamlet, 123. 195. 409.
Henry IV. (Second Part), 263. 313,
314. 384. 408.
King John, 28. 266. 384.
King Lear, 4. 97.
Love's Labour's Lost, 241.
Macbeth, 217.
Measure for Measure, 194.241.288.
361.
Richard II., 338.
Romeo and Juliet, 3. 21 & 361. 384.
Taming of the Shrew, 58. 73. 97, 96.
438.
Tempest, 45. 123, 124. 169. S3& 406.
Troilus and Cressida, 288.
Shakspbabk : —
Two Gentlemen of Verona, 52.
Winter's Tale, 95. 169 254. 361.
Shaw (R. J.) on names of wild plants, 36.
Shaw's (Mrs.) tombstone, 222.
Sheer ale explained, 168.
Sheer hulk, its meaning, 126. 28^
Shelley (Percy Bysshe), poem by him, 71.
183.
Shepherd's Kalendar quoted, 50.
Sheridan (R. B.), translation of a song by
him, 563.
SherifRi of Glamorganshire, 353. 423.
Sherlock (Dr. Richard) noticed, 245.
Ship " William and Ann," 54.
Shirtcollars, 467.
Shoemakers, a recitatim for Oct. 25th, 619.
Shoes, throwing old ones for luck, 377.
" Short red, God red,** 182. 398.
* Shoulder knots, their origin, 244.
& (H.S.) on " CouU we with ink." &c., 180.
Sights and exhibitions temp. James I., 558.
Sigma on (Tawdray's Treasurie of SimlUes,
499.
Siller gun of Dumfries, 412.
Silo, a Spanish granary, 639.
Simpson (W. Sparrow) on battle of Villers
en Couche, 8.
bell inscriptions, 108. 448.
books chamed m churches, 93. 206. 328.
— — hour.glasses in pulpits, 328.
Prayer Books prior to 1662, 504.
Sims's Hand-book to the Library of the
British Museum, 511. 553. GTiS.
Sincere, its derivation, 195. 328. 39i). 567.
Singer (S. W.) on Hobbes and Hollar, 368.
its, early use of, 254.
Milton and Malatesti, 295.
Milton's widow, 471.
passage in Romeo and Juliet, 3.
Singleton (S.) on gravestone inscription,
32a
Sisson (J. Lawson) on bell inscriptions, 448.
derivation of Mardel, 41 1 .
— Muller's processes, 253.
Sisson's developing solution, 181. 253.
S. (J.) on book inscriptions, 591.
S. (J. H.) on Cawdray's Treasure of Simi-
les, 386.
S. (J L.) on the arms of Da Sissonne, 243.
hour-glass stand, 454.
—« poetical tavern signs, 627.
S. (J. P.) on Westhumble Chapel, 410.
Sky ring (G. W.) on buUaces, 326.
divining-rod, 293.
»— local rhymes, Kent, 466.
— moon superstitions, 3^.
" spoke In the wheel." 522.
Slang expression, '* Just the cheese," 89.
* Slaves, collections for poor, 292.
execution for whipping, 112.
S. (L D.) on quotation from Canning, 365.
Sleednot (J.) on '*Qui facitpcralium,"231.
Sloane- Evans (WT Sloane) on Bible and
Prayer Book proper names, 469.
— Edmund Spenser and Hans Sloane,
389.
marriage of cousins, 525.
Urban Vigors, 477.
Slow-worm superstition, 33. 146. 328. 479.
Smith (A.) on inscription near Cirences-
ter, 7&
Smith (T. C.) on battle of Villers en Cou-
ch6, 127.
Smith (W. J. Bernhard) on the claymore,
520.
— ducking stool, 315.
megatherium in British Museum, 19.
nightingale and thorn, 527.
poetical uvern signs, 563.
spiked maces in Great Malvern
Church, 254.
Snail-eating. 34. 128. 229.
gardens, S3. 128. 161. 229.
* Snayers (P.), his picture The Battle of
Forty, 53a
Sneeiing, an omen and a deity, 121.
•.— popular ideas respecting, 366. 624.
Sneyd (W.) on Margery Truasell*s arms,
412.
poems published at Manchester, d8a
Snow (B.) on D. Ferrand, iiS,
S.(N.W.) on buckle, 526.
— — crow-bar, 4.S9.
first and last, 439.
— maullies, manillas, 278.
Sir John Vanbrugh, 480.
stone-pillar worship, SS^fJ*
" To grab," 466.
S. 2 (N. W.) on cob and conners, 43.
Devonianisms, 44.
Soke mills, 272 375.
Songs and Ballads : —
Barrels regiment, 620.
Bonnie Dundee, 19.
Danish an 1 Swedish^ 444.
Guardian angels, now protect me, 443.
* Jamieson the piper, 126.
Mary, weep no more for me, 385. 500.
The Angels* Whisper. 54.
They shot him on the uine-stane rig,
78. 376.
To the lords of Convention, 19.
When Orpheus went down, 196. 281.
397.503.
Sophocles, passage in, 7a 478. 631.
Sotadic verse', 229.
Soul and magnetic needle, 87. 159.
* Southwark pudding wonder, 79.
SouvaroflTs dispatch, 490.
Spanish play-bill, 3J6.
Sparrows at Lindham, 572.
S. (P. a S ) on deatli of Edward II., 477.
— — Hungarians in Paules, 441.
MSu poems and songs, 587.
Speaker of the House of Commons in 1697.
152.
Speech, erroneous forms of, 65.
* Spendthrirt, inquiry respecting, 102.
* Spenser (Edmund) and Sir Hans Sloane,
389.
* Fairy Queen, the missing books, 367.
Speriend on barnacles in the Thames, 124.
— blotting-paper, 104.
-^ Duke of Gloucester. 100.
German heraldry, 150.
Spes on Abp. Lancaster's cure for the
gout, 6.
wooden tombs and effigies, 19.
Spiller (John) on protonitrate of iron, 82a
Spinster on wedding proverb, 150.
Spoor (Wm) on Canute's Point, South-
ampton, 204.
Spur, explained, 209.
5 (Q. M^) on Martvr of Collet Well, 411 .
S. (S. A.) on Caldecott's translation of
New TesUment, 410.
Calves' Head Club, 480.
S. s. (J.) on Pharaoh's ring, 521.
Picts' houses, 392.
S. (S. S.) on college guide, 57.
—— passage in Bishop Horsley, 9.
6 (S. W.) on "pinece with a stink," 496.
S. (a Z. Z.) on Bacon's Essays, 289.
Cranmer's correspondence, 183.
Crassus* saying, 258.
editors, offer to int
._— Lamech, 305.
Latin ouotations wanted, 197.
parochial libraries, 275.
.— .— rubrical query, 207.
.— satirical medal, 231.
Sotades, 229.
•♦ widowed wife," 230.
Staflbrdshire knot, 220. 454.
Stage-coaches, their speed, 439. 600.
* St Andrew's priory, Bamwdl, 80.
Stanhope (Charles Earl), his versatility of
talent, 9. 135.
Stanhope (Henry Lord) noticed, 88L 563.
(See WottoH.)
Stansbury (Joseph) on Washington anec-
dotes, 125.
Stars the flowers of heaven. 158. 346.
SUtfold on Chancellor Steele, 890.
* Steele (Lord Cbancellor), pedigree of, 880.
itending, 172.
676
INDEX.
Steinman (G. S.)t notes on Grammont, 461.
— — return of gentry temp. Henry VI., 630.
Sir Arthur Aston, 629.
Stephens (Edward) noticed, 5S8.
Sternberg (V. T.) on Carlist calembourg,
618.
—— Dr. Dodd a dramatist, S45.
haschisch or Indian hemp, 540.
— Italian-English, 638.
»— spurious Don Quixote, 590.
— — stories of English peasantry, 94.
Tom, mythic and material, SS9.
Sterne and the Drummer's letter, 153.
S. (T.6.) on Anderson's Royal Genealogies,
326.
Histories of Literature, 453.
— — Temple lands in Scotland, 521.
* St George family pictures, 104.
Stillingfleet (Bishop), his library, 389.
SttUwell (John P.) on bees, 440.
*' Hauling over the coals," 524.
Stone pillar worship, 207. 413.
Stoner (W. P.) on hour-glass in pulpits,
209.
— Mulciber, 232.
* Storms at the death of great men, 493.
Stornoway on house of Falahill, 134.
Stoups, exterior, 574.
Stoven Church, the original, 80.
St. Paul's Epistle to Seneca, 88. 205.
Straw paper, 491.
Strickland ( Agnes), her Lives of the Queens
of England noticed, 104. 184. 25L
Strong (Augustus) on derivation of Silo,
639.
Strut-stowers, 148. 233.
Subscriber on the albumenised process, 549.
^— mayors and sheriff^, 126.
*• Peccavi ! I have Scinde," 574.
Shakspeare's skull, 217.
SulToIk, Norman church in, 622.
Surgeon (A Foreign) on 65the*8 author
remuneration, 29.
Surrey Archaeological Society, its form-
ation, 552.
Suum Cuique on " Elijah's Mantle," 45a
& ( W.) on collections for poor slaves, 292.
— — Hampden's death, 646.
quotation from Melancthon, 281.
Swan-marks, 62. 256.
Swift (I>ean), his rhymes, 250.
Swinney— ♦' That Swinney," in Junius, 213.
238. 374.
S. (W. R.* D.) on boom, 375.
* Symbol of sow, &c., 493.
Synge family, 327. 423.
System of Law proposed by the Long Par-
liament, 389.
T.
T. on oasis, its accentuation, 410.
*' Plus occidit gula," &c., 292.
Table-turning, 57. 131. 161. 3^. 398.
Taffy on Soke mill, 375.
Tale, as used by Milton, explained, 249.
Talleyrand's maxim, 136.
* Tangier queries, 33.
Tavern signs, poetical, 242. 35a 452. 568.
626.
Taylor (A.) on Greek inscription on a font,
198.
Taylor (Dr. John) of Norwich, 299.
Taylor (E. S.) on ennui, 377.
— Samuel Williams, 312.
seals of Great Yarmouth, 269.
Taylor (Jeremy) and Lord Hatton, 207.
» Holy Living, edition 1848, 469.
Taylor (Weld) on Dance of Death, 76.
— detail on negative paper, 203.
_- . Lord Halifax and Catherine Barton,
590.
lyric by Felicia Hemans, 407.
—— Muller's process, 275.
Richard's Guide through France, 534.
— Rubens' MS. on painting, 539.
school libraries, 220. 498. 640.
T. (C. M.) on snail.gardens, 33.
* Tea-marks, classification of, 197.
Teate (Dr. Faithfiill) noticed, 62.
Teecee on Noel family, 316.
Teeth, common notions respecting, 382.
* Telegraph, electric, 78.
Templars^ green jugs, 171. 256. 574.
Temple (Harry Leroy) on green eyes, 407.
— parallel passages, 465.
small words and low words, 416.
Temple lands in Scotland, 317. 480. 521.
Temple, lists of students, 540. 650.
Tenet or tenent (See Tenent.)
Tenent or tenet, their meaning, 258. 330.
453.602.
Tennent (Sir J. Emerson) on barnacles,
223.
hurrah ! 323.
tenet for tenent. 330.
•• Tub to the whale," 328.
** When the maggot bites," 304.
Tennyson's Memoriam, passage in, 244. 399.
* TerrsB Filius, origin of, 292.
T. (E. S. T.) on " Antiquitas sseculi Ju-
ventus mundi," 651.
" Salus populi,'^ &c., 606.
Tewars on Amcotts' pedigree, 387-
two brothers of the same Christian
name, 338.
hurrah ! 422.
knights of the Bath, 444
longevity, 351.
— Lovett of Astwell, 363. 602.
Oxford commemoration squib, 584.
poll-tox in 1641, 310.
return of gentry temp. Henry VL,
630.
— — sherifft of Glamorganshire, 353.
Sir William Chester, 365.
.— Thomas Chester, bishop of Elphin,
340.
T. (F.) on Kenne of Kenne, 80.
T. (G.) on derivation of unkid, 221.
T. (G. M.) on "Service is no inheritance,"
587.
6 on •• Now the fierce bear," &c., 440.
parochial libraries, 527.
Theta on Lord Bacon and Shakspeare, 438.
Thiernah Ogieh, Ossian's visit to, 360.
Thomas (J. W.) on '• an " before u long,
421.
anticipatory use of the cross, 545.
cash and mob, 524.
crescent, 319.
" Could we with ink," &c., 422.
gloves at fairs, 421.
- — "Man proposes, but God disposes,*'
552.
** Mary, weep no more for me," 500.
^— misapplication of terms, 537-
'—' misquotation, 5ia
propitiating thei fairies, 617.
— *• To know ourselves diseased," 421.
Thomas* (StO day, custom on, 617^
Thompson (Pishey) on glossarial queries,
294.
— — Romanists confined in Ely, 79.
•'^—^ South wark pudding wonder, 79.
Thornton Abbey, account of, 469.
Thrupp (John) on Irish landing at Cam-
bridge, 270.
Thrush, Devonshire charm for the, 146.
265.
ThUcydides on the Greek factions, 44. 137<
398.
Tieck (Ludwig) quoted, 124.
Comoedia Divina, 126. 570.
Tighe (Mrs.), author of Psyche, 103. 230.
" Till," and " until,*' their etymology, 409.
527.
Timbs (John) on snail-eating, 128.
Times newspaper, its influential power, 334.
Tin, its early use, 291. 344. 4+5. 675. 59a
Tipper (Thomas), his enitaph, 147.
T. (J.) on passage in Wnlston, 244.
T. (J. A.) on table-moving, 161.
T. (J. 6.) on passage in burial service, 78.
— ^ quarter, as sparing life, 246.
Rock of Ages, 81.
.— table-turning, 57.
Trosachs, derivation of, 245.
T. (J. H<) on derivation of forrell, 527.
T. (J. W.) on " Ancient haUowed Dee,"
588.
B. L. M., its meaning, 585.
*• Getting into a scrape,'* 601.
^— Prince Memnon's sistei', 622.
" Suavlter in modo, fortiter in re,**
586.
Tobacco, smoking and drinking of, 147.
Tom, mythic and material, 239.
* Tom Thumb's house at Gonerby, 35.
Topsy-turvy, its derivation, 385. 5S6l 576.
Tortoises and women, 534.
* Tottenham, its derivation, 318.
Tower on slow-worm superstition, 33.
Tower, the state prison in the, 509.
T. (Q.) on definition of a proverb, 523.
Tradescant (John), his marriage certificate,
513.
Trash explained, 135.
Traves (Father) noticed, 565,
Traylli (Sir Walter), his monument, 19.
T. (R. E.) on quotation from PAscal, 44.
* Trent Council, notices of, 316.
Trevelyan ( W. C.) on Basilica, 36»7.
— decomposed cloth at York, 438.
— — Hobby's portrait, 2S1 .
— ^ Roman remains, 466.
-— snail localities, 229.
~— Wardhouse, where was it f 400.
Trevor (Geo. A.) on pass^e in bufial ser-
vice, 177.
Trojan Horse, noticed, 487.
Trosachs, derivation of, 245.
True Blue noticed, 588.
Trussell (Margery), her airmis, 412.
T. (R.V.)on oaths, 605.
T. (S.) on fires at Honiton, 367.
T. (T. C.) on murder of Monaldeschi, 34.
T. (T. H.) on derivation of diemistry, 470.
** Tub to a whale,** origin of the phrase,
^20. 304. 328.
* Tucker (St. George), lines attributed to
him, 467.
Turkish grammars, 561.
* Tumbull's continuation of Robertson,
515.
* Tusser's doxoTogy, 440.
T. (V.) on Earl of Leicester's portrait, 290.
T. (W.) on clouds in photographs, 501.
tea-marks, 197.
* Tyddeman (Adm. Sir Thomas), 317.
Types, movable metal, 454.
Tyro on Cocker's Arithmetic, 540.
U.
Univocalic verses, 416.
Unkid^ ito derivation, 221. S53. 604^
Unneath, its meaning, 160.
V.
* Van Basseil ncftic^, 538.
Vanbrugh (Sir John) noticed, 65. 160. 232.
352.480.
Vandyke in America, 182. SS8.
Variety is pleasing, 490.
Vault at Richmond, Yorkshire, 388. 573.
V. (C.) on Lady Percy, wifie of Hotspur,
184.
- — Philip III. of Spain, his death, 583.
* Vellum cleaning, 340.
Verney note decyphered, 17.
Vernon (Lady), maid of honour, 462.
Veronica on Queen EUsabetir* true look-
ing-glass, 220.
Victor on Thornton Abbey, 469.
* Vida on Chess, 469.
Vigors (Rev. Urban) noticed, 340. 477.
Villers en Couch§, battle of, 8. 127. S05.
370.
Virgil, passage quoted by Dr. JohtitOD, 870.
400. 523. 576.
Vix on Mrs. Tighe, 230.
Voiding knife, S32. 897.
INDEX.
677
Volcanoet and mountaint of gold in Soot-
land, ^.
VolUiM on railway travelUng, 34. 65.
•* Vox popuU vox Dei/* 494.
W.
» on blue bell — blue anchor, 388.
clipper, as applied to veMeb, 399.
Ireland a bastinadoed elephant, 366.
»— nugget not an Americanism, 375.
— — table.tum!ng, 398.
W. on Leeming family, 587.
— Norman of Wlnster, ^^
— « Natural Histolty of Balmoral, 467.
W. (A.) on passage in Wordsworth, 77.
W. (A. F. A.) on the Braxen Head, 367.
Wake (H. Thomas) on Castle Thorpe,
387.
'—' Inscriptions on monuments, S15.
Walcott (Mackenxie) on birthplace of Ed-
Ward L, 601.
— books chaihed in churches, 596.
.— • school libraries, S98.
* Wall (General) noticed, 318.
Wallace (Sir Wm.), state prisonet, 509.
* Wallis*s Sermons on the Trinity, 172.
Walpole (Horace) on Grammont^s mar-
riage, 549. .
Walpole (Sir Robert), hli ittedal, 57. 231.
Walter (Henry) on uranmer and Calrin,
822.
.— — Froissart's accuracy, 604.
— — translation of Pa. cxxvii. 2., 642.
Walton (Christopher), his collection of
mystic authors, 247.
Walton (Izaak), Duport*s lines on, 193.
Ward (J.) on Mackey's Theory of the
Earth, 46S.
Warde (R. C.) on Anthony Bave's MSS.,
469^
^— bargain-cup, 220.
— »• custom cry* Englishe,** 362.
...-. distich on the late harvest, 513.
•— fable of washing the blackamore,
150v
»— inscriptions in books, 591.
John Frewen, 222.
— . Lanou^t^s Chronicle, 494.
Lovell, sculptor, 342.
Mrs. Shaw's tombstone, 222.
" Our English Mile," 495.
— party, its earliest mention, 137.
»_ Flantin Bibles in 160O, 537.
parochial libraries, 327«
— . polarised light. 552.
Roden*s Colt, 310.
tavern signs, 242.
— . ** Trul through the leaden sky," 494^
i— variety is pleasing, 490.
— — weather superstitions, 512.
^^ yew-tree in churchyards, 244.
Zincali dfCtionary, 517.
Warden (J. S.^ on Captain Cook's cn^Co-
very of tne Sandwich Islands, 6.
Coleridge's Ghristabel, 11.
Creole, fts meaning, 138,
Goldsmith's Hatinch of Venisof), 640.
— Hoveden, Riley's translation, errors
in, 637.
letter " h '* in humble, 54.
literary parallels, 30.
Man with the iron mask, 112.
nightingale's song, 112.
Reformed faith, 135.
sheer hulk, l26.
Sir Isaac Newton, 102.
— Sir Waher Raleigh, 78.
St. Dominic, 136.
Wardhouse, fishermen's custom there, 78.
281. 4(X).
Warmistre (Miss), maid of honour, 461 —
463.
* Warville, Brissot de, derivation of, 516.
Warwick (Eden) on anticipatory use of the
cross, 132. 546.
gloves at fidrs, 601.
Warwick (Edeh) on nursery rhymes, 605.
— ^ swan marks, 256.
* Warwick (Sir PhiUp) noticed, 268.
* Washington (Gen.), anecdotes wanted,
125.
Watch.paper inscriptions, 316. 375.
Waterloo, poems in connexion with, 549.
Watson (Bp.), quotation by htm, 587.
WatU (W. T.) on an inscription in a
belfVy, 561.
Waugh, Bishop of Carlisle, his family arms,
271. 400. 525.
Way (Albert) on Caen tiles, 547.
-i— Lord Montague's Household Book,
540.
W. (B B.) on Sir John Daniel and Sir
A. N. Salter, 318.
W. (C. M.) on apparition of the White
Lady, 317.
W. (C. S.) on ash-trees attracting light-
ning, 493.
'— Burton's death, 495.
the queen at chess, 469.
W. (E.) on marriage service, 150.
Weather proverbs, 218. 326.
^^ rhymes, 512.
—" rules, 50. 535.
— .- superstitions, 512.
* Webb and Walker families, 386.
* Webb of Monckton Farieigh, 563.
Webb (Susannah), her burial uid disinter-
ment, 43.
Weber^l Cecilia, 589.
Wedding divination, 455.
* Weights and measures, standard in dif-
ferent countries, 34(K
Weir (Arch.) on St Luke and Juvenal,
195.
Wellestey, derivation of, 173. 223. 255.
Wellington, the Duke's first victory, 491.
—^ curious coincidence respecting, 619.
" Weirs a fret," its meaning, 197. 258. 330.
Wentworth (Sir Philip) noticed, 184. 251.
Werenfrid (St.) and Butler's Lives, 342.
West, praying to the, 102. 208. 343. 591.
Wcstbury Court, inscription over the door,
129.
* Westhumble Chapel, 410.
XVeston, *• Going to Old Weston," 232.
Weston (Edward), secretary to Lord Har-
rington, 103. 205.
Weston (ValenUne) on " That Swinney,"
374.
W. (F. B.) on Raffkelle's Sposalixio, 14.
W. (G.) on derivation of Britain, 445. 651.
Patrick's purgatory, 3«7.
praying to the West, 206.
tin, its early use, 291. 445.
veneration for the oak, 468. 632.
W. (G. H.) on a title wanted, 151.
W. (G. l
W. (H.) ^
on " giving quarter," 353.
^— kicker-eating, 564.
Luther no iconoclast, 477.
«• When the maggot bites," 353L
Wharton (Dr. Henry) noticed, 167.
Wheale, its meaning, 302.
Whisperers, the seven, 436.
Whiston, a passage in, 244. 397. 645.
Whitl>ome (T. B.) on churchwardens, .^.
Hoby Family, 244.
—— lapwing and the vine, 127.
.- — Airs, lighe, author of Psyche, 103.
Stillingfleet's library, 389.
Thomas Blount, 286. 603.
— - Warwickshire custom, 490.
Whitchurch, parochial library at, 370.
White (A. Holt) on Gilbert White of Sel.
borne, 304.
nugget, a thick bullock, 481.
yew-trees in churchyards^ 447.
White (Blanco), sonnet by, 137.
White (Gilbert), his portrait, 244.304.
White (John), folk lore in his " Way to
the True Church," 613.
* White bell heather transplanted, 79.
» White Lady, apparition of the, 317.
Whitelocke (Lieut-Gen.) noticed, 521. 621.
Wliithamstede (John), abbot of St. Albans,
361. . .
Whitmarsh (F.) on the Templars' Jugs.
574
Wife, on selling one. 43. 209.
Wilbraham's (3neshire collections, 270. 903.
Wilde (G. J. de) on caves at Settle, 651.
curious epitaph, 147.
True Blue, 589.
Wilde (W. R.) on the forlorn hope, 569.
— — groaning elm-plank in Dubhn, 397.
"Wilkinson (H.) on stereoscopic angles^ 181.
* William the Conqueror, his mother, 564w
* his surname, 197.
* Williams* (Rev. Robert) Dictionary of
the Cornish Language, 7.
WiUiams (Samuel) the artist, 312.
Willingham bov, 66. 305.
WlUison (Charlds) on tavern signs, 627.
Wills on Advent Hymn, 639. ' "
Wilson (Arthur C.) on London Labour
and the London Poor, 620.
Wilson (Bishop), his Sacra Privata, 470.
and Cardinal Fleury, 245.
* notices wanted, 220.
* quotation fVom his Sacra Prlvata,243L
* Wilson (Samuel) noticed, 242.
Windfall, its meaning, 14.
Winds, their action, 338.
Windsor Military Knights, 294w
Wingfield Church, Suffblk, monuments in,
98.
Wingfield (Sir Anthony), his portrait, 245.
299.376.
Winthrop (Wm.) on ambages, 2^.
— — American epitaph, 491.
-^- bells rang for the dead, 55.
-i— black as a mourning colour, 411.
comet superstitions m 1853, 3£^.
epitaph on an editor, 274.
— ^ *^FuIl moon brings fine weather,** 79.
house-marks, 231.
^— injustice, its orisin, 338.
longevity, 113. 399.
— Maltese Knights, 99. 189. 557.
** Mater ait natse," &e., 160.
•^— punning divine, 586.
'* Putting your foot into it,** 77.
reversible names, 655.
-^ — rulers of the world in 1853, 638.
Spendthrift, a publication, 102.
*• To pluck a crow with one," 197.
weather rules, 535.
~— > Wolfe's army, the latt survivor, 6.
Winwood (Sir Ralph), notices of, 272. 519.
Wishaw (Jas.) on Colchester records, 464.
— matriculations at inns of court, 650.
Witchraft, burning for, 470.
* Withered hand, picture at Compton
Park, 125.
W. (J. K. B.) on Barthrara^s Dirge, 231.
Blanco White, 137.
Hogarth^s picture, 294.
W. (J. R.) on the Porter famiW, 52a
Wmson (S.) on Byron's Childe Harold,
258.
Wodderspoon (John) on Wingfield's por-
trait, 299.
Wolfe (Gen.) at Nantwich, 587.
last survivor of his army, 6.
Wolsey (Cardinal), his arms, 233. 302.
Woman, lines on, 292. 350. 42a
Women and tortoises, 534.
Women, their rights in the United States,
171.
* Wood (George) lof Chester, 34.
Wooden tombs and effigies> 19. 255. 455.
604.
Words, misunderstood, 120.
small and low, 416.
Wordsworth, on a passage in, 77.
Worm in books, 412. 52&
Worsaae (J. J. A.) on names of places, 58.
Wotton (Henry Earl of) noticed, 173. 281.
56a
Wren (Sir Christopher) and the Young
Carver, 340.
Wright (Robert) on shape of cofiins, 256. .
Wright (Thomas) of Durham, 218. 32&
Wt (T.) on arms of See of York, 283.
Wurm, in modem German, 624.
678
INDEX.
W. fW.) Narthamptontkire, on « Going to
Old Weston *' S32.
Longrellow*8 Poetical Worlcs, £67-
W. ( W. 8.) on meaning of wheaWt 302.
Wylcote* (Sir John), motto on hU brass,
494.
X. en Unometrieal rerfe, 695.
XXX en breirert* ea«l«, iS». 57ft
Y.
Yarmouth^ Graat^ •oali of the boniugh, 269.
3«*«
Y. (D.) on English clergyman In Sp^in,
410.
Yeatbers or Yadders, 148. 333.
Yeowell (J.) on various editions of Butler's
Lives, 387.
Hemans' (FelLdali inedited Iyric»G29.
Jacob Bobme^ or Behmen, ^.
Mr. Pepvs his (jjueri^, 341.
Pope and Cowper, 38a
Shield and anoA at the Admiralty.
1S4.
— Wellington (the late Duke of), f^urlout
coincidence, 619L
— — Wilbraham's Cheshire collectidis,
303.
Yew-tree in churchyards, S44. 346, 447.
York. th« History of, iU authox, \96. m»
York see, its ancient arms, 34. IIL fiSS. 308.
* Ypensteio, English reftigees at, 568.
Z.
Z. (1) on Harmony of the Four Ootpels,
551.
z. (4) m Hajrvooy «( tb« ?oiw C^QPPfK
316.
Z. (A.) on Dr. Harwood* 57.
— Green's Secret Plo^ 79. ^r
'—— Reynolds* nephew, 101^
Zend Grammar, 401.
Zeus on German tree* 6191
Zincali, Dictionary <», 517.
Z. (Z. Z.) w mptto^ ** Sevp^ eiiden^" i4a
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