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IfOTBS: — Oolley Cibbur hmI G«y, 1— CMnden, OiUfn- 
eeui. S — Ednr .Sthetinc, 3 — Chrutopher Xxkrd Hattoti, 
tiiro Author o?« Book of Pnlmody, k 

HlvoK Nonw : — Web of tb« Spidfr a Bemedr for Fev^r 

— Tl»e Solent, the Sw»Io, utcl Solwav Firth — I'oliliCBl Sn- 

QXTBRIE8:— Tho Qerm»u CTmrr.h in I/>ndou, «— BUke 
Qoeriei — South S<« Stock — Tlie Cobler of Olo««ter — 
Bt«nch BJid Small— Annoriid — 8f iwi's " Map of Ireland " 

— Anicliii: Lacouot — Sir Kdnard Uiiring — Aiilabie of 
8tud)(7. Co. YorV Pnul W»shiji»loii itliat ttaiue — Itolwrt 
HemiTipton— ^ 1< — Altleri — 5Iael»trom — lu- 
Mrlodea — " T ipf — Tho R.'«v Couulry — 
»MidIeCot«tTn .-^WolchDictionary—' Albion 
Uaftaxtne " — ClKir^-? Jvliuslon. 7. 

QrsKlsa wirn AHswsBei — G«rb«Tt< "De Arte Miuica" 

— " Klni"« Prcri-i|rative ill Impositioiu " — "Bfpno delle 
due BiciUe" — CMd Tom — Uleron— Toads found alive in 
StoDC CottLna, Ac. 

KBPLIB8: — r.. ,. 10 — •■r.<)iiclhi<»r." 11— Dr. 

Pvr anil Tobi. ■ , l. .wta' Visjt to la Trappc," Ar., 

the Note on a i ^lalutfup, 13 — CoiiUMiarianiBin, 

W— DoriTatioii of Sliaksix'are — Pcjiiril Writing — Di'- 
■UfUlUm Oatalone — Lihrarv dlncorcrcd at Willsoot 
GlvM-Booie — Thf Gold Ant» of Herodotua — Mural 
Burial — Henvlitary .Miu.» — Bide «. Drivu — PauniitTtT- 
Iuui— Ventilate— Carnival at Milan — Vant — HenryCan- 
tTfll. MA. - S]ilittinjt I'niwr— Publiotion of fia'niw— 
Bi.' ■ 1 iiilv — Siilimerjcrd BpH« — Tire Judas Tree 

— in Huttou — ColouelHooke — Britain lUO 
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Vetcaou Ikioka. 


Cibbcr gtjcoeeded to the " bays" upon the eleath 
of Eusden in 1730. Tlio poet who might have 
calcuUiol more surely than any other upon ihat 
distinction was Gay ; but, by a strange incon- 
sistenty of comluct shortly after the acceasion of 
George II., he had obstructeil his promotion, and, 
by greater subseiiuent acts of indiscretion, de- 
stroyed the faintest hope of establishing Lis for- 
tune*, at least through the influence of die court. 
Gay experienced, in fact, the truth contained ia 
his oira inimitable fable of " Tlie Hare" : — 
" . . . . who depend 
On man}-, rarely find a friend." 

No doubt, he aspired to the office of lau- 
reate, anil would hove obtained it moat probably 
through the intervention of Queen Caroline ; wlio, 
whilst Princess of Wales, bad always been very 
farowably disposed towards him, and, imme- 
diately upon her accession, had civcn him an 
earnest of her sincerity and condescension by 
oflcring him the situation of gcnlleman-ushcr to 
ker daughter, the Princess Louisa. The office 
wa» almost a sinecure, worth more than 200/. per 
aon., and a sure stepping-atone to hi{;hcr prcfer- 
nent; yet Gay had the folly and imlccency not 
only to reject it peremptorily, but with every 
expressiou of scorn. The infatuated poet then 

cast himself upon the support of the Kiryj's fa- 
vourite beauty, Mrs. Howard (afterwards Coun- 
tess of Suffolk), and openly boasted tliat this 
" allegorical creatme of fannr " (as Swill calls 
her) was "his sole trust antf protector!" By 
such extravagances of conduct. Gay completely 
alienatetl the good will of her majesty ; and Gib- 
ber, as a matter of course, was preferred before 

The selection of Gibber for the vacant " bays" 
was doubly gallinn; to Gay. The new laureate 
wasnot only notoriously ill qualified for his othee, 
having no talent whatever for lyrical compositions ; 
but, when Gay had avenged himself up<in the 
court, in his singularly successful Beggar's Opera, 
Gibber had ventured to enter the dramatic lists 
with, and attempted by affecting a superior mo- 
rality to turn the current of popular applause 
from, him. The issue of this vain-glorious endea- 
vour is beat expressed ia the uureate's own 
words ; — 

" Lor* in a riddU, tat tc my new-fangled performance 
WAS called, was aa vilely damned and booted at as ao 
vaiu a presumption in the idle cause of virloe couli 


The signal failure of that dramatic piece, no 
less than his " annual Odeji," which had no merit 
but their loyalty, exposed the unlucky laureate to 
the inccssunt attacks of Gay and his friends ; raid 
amongiit the Intternot one was so persistent in his 
opposition as FiflJing. Gay himself had established 
the precedent of writing " volunteer Odes," and 
had by such means at first attracted the favour- 
able notice of the Queen, whilst she was Princess 
of Wales. The authors of the accompanying " Ode 
for the New Year" (reprinted for the first time 
from the original broadside) intended as well to 
retaliote upon the presumptuous laureate as to ex- 
IK>5e the foibles of the principal personages in the 
court. Both the hand and kindly nature of Gay 
are discernible in it i in those stanzas, I mean, 
which refer to that truly excellent, but oftentimes 
much abused lady, Queen Caroline. For whilst 
the ballad hints at the parsimonious and irascible 
disposition of the King, the weakDiindedness of his 
voluptuous and dependent son, Prince Frederic 
Louis of Wales, and their mutual and disgraccltil 
squabbles, the allusions to her Majesty are rather 
complimpntnry than satirical ; evidencing, in fact, 
her steady patronage of the most distinguished 
men of her day, without regard either to their 
religious or political creeds. 

" Aji Odb fob Till Kxw TSARt 
JFrKtem by Colley Gibber, Eig., 
Pott Launale. 
" God prosper long our fn'aclous Kin^;, 
Now sitting on the throne; 
Who leads this nation in a String, 
And governs all bat One* 

* His minister, Sir Robert Walpole ; whose red ribbon 



•• This is the day when right or irrong, 
1 CoLLEV Bats, Esquire, 
Jkliut for my sack indite a «ong, 
And thrum my venal lyre, 

■< Xot he who ruled gr«at Jadah'a realm, 
Y-clyped SolomoB, 
Wn> wuer Uiau Our'i a( the helm, 
Or bad a wiier Son. 

" Ho rakc'l up wealth to glut his (ill. 

In drinking, w s, and bousea; 

Which wiser G[corg]e cun save to fill 
His pocket, and bis spoose's. 

" Bis head with wisdom deep is fraught, 
Hia breast with courage glows; 
Ala«, how mournful is ibe thought 
He ever should want foes I 

" For, in his heart he loves a drum, 
As children love a rattle ; 
If not in field, in drawing-room. 
He daily sonnds to battle. 

•' The Q[nee]n, I also pray, God aare! 
His consort plump and dear ; 
Who, JQit a< he is wiu and braet. 
Is pluvs and lincere. 

" Site's roarteoua, gaoi, and cliarnu all folks. 
Loved one as well as t'other; 
Of Arian and of Orthodox 
Alike the uureiog-mother. 

** Oh ! may she always meet luccess 
Id ever}- scheme and job ; 
And still continue to CAress 
That honest statesman, Bon.* 

" Uod Mnd the P[rincc] f, that babe of grace, 

A little w nnd borse; 

A little meaning in his face, 
And money in bis purse. 

.(or ttrivg), which he wore as one of the Knights of the 
I jiewly-reYivcd Order of the Bath, was adopted by the 
' Mtirists uf the day to qrmbulise his great political lb- 

* The Queen had tuch unbounded confidence in the 
political integrity of Walpole, that she not only prevailed 
apon the King to make him hi; prime minister, but at 
her death formally consigned his majesty to his care. 
Gay attributed, most unjustly, his ill-succcas at court to 
the opposition of Walpole. 

i Prince Frederick of Wales (father of George 111.), 
•who rtlcJ, after a very brief illness, on the 'iOth March, 
1751, had oih«r enemies besides those iu his father's 
, house; and amongst ihom none so bitter, perhaps, as the 
Jacobites. One of the last-mentiuncd panned the follow- 
ing epitaph upon him : — 

" Here lies Prince Fred, 
Gone down among the dead : 
Had it been his father, 
We had much rather; 
Had it been his mother, 
Better than any other; 
Had it been his sister. 
Few woidd have miss'd her; 
Had it been the whole goneralion, 
Ten times belter fur ihu nation; 
But since 'lis only Fieil, 
There's no more to be said I" 

" Ileav'n spread o'er all his family 
That broad illustrious glare; 
Which shines so flat in evVy eyei 
And makes them all to itart.* 

" All marry gratis, boy and miss, 
And still increase tbcir store ; 
'As in beginning was, now Is 
And shall bo ever more.' 

" But ob ! e'rn Kings tnust die, of course, 
And to their heirs be civil ; 
Wo poets, too, on winge<l-horsc. 
Must toon post to the devil : 

" Tlien, since I have a son. like you, 
May he Parnassus rule ; 
So shall the L'rown and Laurel, ton. 
Descend from F[oo]I to F[oo]l! " 


Tlie following notices of this eminent man are 
from the History of the Off cert of Arms, by Gar- 
ter Anslis*, who, to avoid repetition of particulars 
in his life, refers to the Aceounbs of Anthonj 
Wood, Dr. Smith, and the Life prefixed to the 
English edition of the Britannia^ by Gibson, in 
1695. Since Anslis wrote, upward* of a century 
has passed ; and Ihc only further account of Cam- 
den which has been givcQ to the public is that of 
Noble, in his Hiitory of the CoU. of Anns ; that in 
the Britaiutia, extended and prefixed to the last 
edition of that work by Mr. Gough in 1789 (4 
vols, folio) ; and some notice by Sir Henry Ellis, 
in his Preface to the HuiUingdon Visitation, printed 
by the Camden Society, No. 43. 

Cough's edition of the Britannia, from its size 
and expense, is accessible to the few, and not very 
frequently to be found in private libraries, — a 
circumstance to be regretted, since a Life of 
Camden is often inquired for. 

The Society which done honour to his 
name, and which has in some degree been n pass- 
port for their numerous and valuable publicalioUB, 
could perhaps be induced so far lo deviate from 
their gcncrid rule of printing inedited manu- 
scripts only, as in this instatiee to ilcvote one of 
their annual publications to a reprint of the Life 
of the prcat " Nourice of Anl iquitio" from Gough's 
Inst edition of ihe Britannia. It would form a 
singulor and very accept.ible exception to the rule, 

• George 11. was distingui9hc4 for the prominency of 
his eyes and nose, as well as for the smallncss of his per- 
son. Coxe, in bis Lift nf Walpolt. has pf cseiTod a stansa 
of a ballad, entitled " The Seven Wise Men," in which the 
diminutive stature of the King is thns ridiculed : — 

" When Edgecunib spoke, the prince in sport 

LaucVd at the merry elf; 
Bejoic'd to see within his court 

One shorter than himself. 
' I'm glad (crj-'d out the quiljbting squire) 

My lownets makes your highocM higlxtr.' " 

t MS. in College of Arms. 


V^S.X. Jri.t 7. '60.] 


in compUiiKint to the memory of the Paiuanios of 
the British Isles. O. 

" Clarmctvj. — William Camden. Riclimond, the P»u- 
saniju nf thu Dritisb ItUnds. and tbo illastrioas oroamcDt 
of the College orUcralils, bad tbi^ office br patent, il.iled 
6tli of June, 41 Kliz. 1509, with a salary from Jllcliaelmai 
preceding'. An account trill ba given hereafter of hi* 
tjeins made n titular or nominal Herald by the title of 
Riclimond. There hath been juitice done to his memory 
by Aniliony h Wood, Dr. Smith, and the editor of his 
Britannia, ill Kntjlisb ; so that there is no occasion to re- 
peat the particulars of hia life, but only to observe that 
Sir Henry Spclman was misinformed when ho nseribei 
hi* creation to be Clarenceux to the year lafii, the 39lh 
of Queen Eliz., which was certainly not till after the 
death of Lee, and performed (as we arc assnred) on Sanday 
the '23rd of October, I5!)7, which indeed was in the 30th 
of Eliz. ; to which ortico he was promoted without any 
application made by him, upon th« recommendation of bis 
great abilities and deserts by Sir Foalko Grevil to tbo 
Qneen: whereon the Lord Bargley, his great patron, and 
vbo bad a design to have brought him into the IJeralda' 
Office, espreasetl his uneasiness that he had not applied 
to his Lordship for his interest, who was then Lord Troii- 
snrer, and nne of the Commissioners for the otlice of I'arl 
Marshal, till be understood 4Jis same was purely a 
tbonght of Sir Fallvc Orevill's, and conferred upon liiin 
without hi* knowledge. He enjoyed Ibis oflicc above id 
years and having made bis will on the 2Ut of Mny, 
lC23, wherein be gives a remembrance to his fellow 
officers, and to Sir Fulke Urevil, who (as the words are) 
preferred me gratia to my office, and what he doubtless 
lll(«Bd«d abonid have been a public service to all bis suc- 
cwwri in the following oees. He devises all his printed 
books and Diaouscripts to >Sir Robert Cotton, 'except siicli 
as cciticem arms and heraldrj-, ' tlio which with .ill ray 
ancient seals (these are the terms) I bequeath unto my 
RMCMor in the office of Clarenceux, provided that 
wb tfeas thfr cost me much, that he shall give to uiy 
C<j " ■ Wy.1t, Painter, sucli sura of money aa M' 

Ci ' Norroy for the time being shall think 

m' :. J ib&t he leave tbcin to bis socccssor in the 

nfHceuf CUruQceux.' The collector bath not hitherto seen 
any Catalogue of these books and seals, but Mr. Camden, 
the best juiige of their value, expressly soith that they 
cost hiro considerably, and wo know that one single par- 
cel were bought l>y him of the executors of Nicholas 
diaries, I..«riciister, for 1*0/.; and tboso must have been 
improTcd bv the additions he made to tbcm, and also by 
l^la own collections, and by his own visitations and trans- 
action* in the office fur so long a time. Theaa came to 
Sir Richard S(. George, bis successor; and being many 
of them (among which the collector hereof was once per- 
mitted to inipect a great volume of the pedigrees of the 
ancient baruiis, wrote bv Mr. Camden himself), in the 
casto<ly of the late Sir llcnrj- St. GeiTge, who bad the 
good fortune to go through the three Kingships of Arms; 
nho being shewn this devise of Mr. Camden was pleased 
however to insist that be bought Ihom of Mr. Owen, 
York Herald, who bad married his nunt, the daugbter of 
the said Sir Uichanl St. George; and that be had the 
opinion of counsel that this legacy (for it seems this will 
was drawn up by Mr. Camden himself, who was un- 
aeriDointetl with the chicanery of law.) did not now 
oblige him, though he well knew these books must come 
Into the family by virtue thereof; and though he fre- 
quently promised to leave these books to the College, yet 
for want of a particular disposition they went with the 
other of his personal estate to bis rc<ii'tuiirr legatee and 
executor, who waa an entire stranger in blood to him. 

** UUwiU it pibiled at large by Mr. Ueame io the end 

of bis * CoUectlooa of Curictu Discounes wrote by tb« 

" If we believe the recital in a patent granted in the 
year 1670. Mr. Camden was in his lime Poet Laureat 
and Historiographer, or at least one of them ; but th« 
latter be could not be, if the inscription in the Middla | 
Temple church on James Howell be true: so then, if 
credit may be given to this recital, be must have been 
Poet Laureat. which was indeed an ancient office in the 
household of our kings, and also in that of some o( 
the nobility. He died on the 9lli of November, 1C23. at 
Chiselhurst, and was buried in Westminster Abbey with 
ceremony, having a handsome monument of white mar- 
ble with his effigies to the middle, with the draught of 
tbo crown of bis office placed by him, and hi] own nrma 
impaled on the sinister aide of his office. His will waa i 
dated ilst of Mav, IG23, and proved the 10th of >'ovcra»| 
ber following. Mr. Famoby characterises him ' Prroco , 
famte, Oraculum Natalium, Armoram Bnccrdos, Stemma- , 
turn Hermes, Temporum viadcx, roi Anliqaarim coiuuli^| 
tns, Regum Fecialis.' " 

" Richmond IltraJd. — William Camden, that great i 
Btorer of the antiquities of this kingdom, bad this title 
conferred upon him without any Letters ralent, being 
thus styled in the grant made to him of the office of 
Clarenceux, 41 Eliz. Le« was advanced to be Clarenoeox 
11 May, 1594, and died in September. 1507, during which 
lime this office of Richmond continued vacant : and (oi 
a MS.* expresses it). ' Oa Saturday, 22 of OcL 1597, 
was Camden made Richmond Herald by the Lord Durley 
and Earl of Nottingham, without any liill made oraJgned, 
by the Lords or the Queeu*s Majesty, as of custom and] 
right it ought to be, and yet at the same present they 
made a PnrsBivanf, Richmond — *o there were two 
Kichmotids at one lime. In an order.t for placing the 
Officers of Arms, tUtcil the day followlTig, it appears that 
Mr. Camden was llien Clarenceux, so that the i!onfi?rring 
this title of Richmond was only nominal. It being pro- 
bably the notion of that ago that in regard the usual 
oath of B provincial King of Arms refers to that formerly 
taken by him as a Herald, it waa therefore necessary that 
he should be so denominated and sworn accordingly. 
By the same onler it likewise api>ears that the Pursui- 
vant then created Richmond was John Raven, Kooge- 
dragon, who passed no Letlew Patent for it In near six 
years aflerwarda, his signet bearing date August, 1603}, 
and bis patent on the 13tlt of that month §, 1 Jac. I." 


Rapm de Thoryna, in his authentic and admir- 
able History of England, during the annals of the 
year 1106, informa us tliat Edgar Afieling (who 
you nre aware was the child and only son of Ed- 
ward of Sarcsbury, Wtter known iw Edward the 
Exile, and grandson of Edmund 11., surnamed 
Ironside), having been taken prisoner by William 
the Norman (being then in arms aj^ainst the Con- 
queror, assisting Robert, Duke of > ormandy, after 
their return from the first " Cruxayde in the Holy 
Land"), the death and burial in the reiga of 

• Penes Dfl Cliuml. Dering, Bar*, L. 6- 1. p. 102. 

t Order of Lords ComoBisaioneri for placing the Officer* 
of Armsi. _ 

t E libro Signet apnd Wbitehill, Ane. 1603. The offica 
of Richmond granted to John Raven, fioug,ed.ta^«u 

§ Pat. X Jac, I., V- Vl.,\^ Kvit 



Itp* s. X. Jvvt 7. "oe. 


Henry I. of the ktter in Gloucester eiilhedral is n 
well-ascertained circurastunce ; but of Edgar's 
subsequent hlalorjr all Rapiu discloses is under 
the above jeir, in which be states that Edgar 
liTed to an exti-cme old age, and died [in Eng- 
land P] 

Permit me therefore to inquire, througb the me- 
dium of your very vBlu»ble columns, whether any 
of your numerous Listrtrical readers have ever met 
witli any mention of the place of abode, time of 
death, or where rest the remains of this truly 
noble and illustrious warrior, the lineal represen- 
tative of the last but one (Eihelred II.) of our 
Anglo-Saxon monarcbs ; ami also whether the same 
respect was paid (o his ashes as to those of one of 
his beloved and saintly sisters, (jueen Margaret of 
Scotland ; or yet bestowed upon those of his com- 
panion in arms, Duke Robert of Normiuidy — 
whose dust (if undisturbed) still reposes Jn the 
aiale of Gloucester cathe<Iral beneath what the 
last civil war has permitted to remain of his 
monumental tomb and efl5.gies. 

The paternal estates of Edgar's father appear, 
from the Dometdai/ Survey (pp. 69. CO a.), to 
have been in the county of Wiltes ; and it is not 
improbable that Edgar's remains were interred 
either in the cathedral of Old Sarum, and after- 
wards removed to the present Salisbury cathednil 
in the twelfth or thirteenth century, or else in 
the ueighbouring Abbey of Wilton : as it appear* 
from the proceedings of two councils (vi<U Wil- 
kina' Concilia) — the one k.t>. 1075, at Winton, 
and the other a.d. MOO, at Lambeth — that his 
niece Maud, daughter of Malcom, king of Scot- 
land, had taken refuge in the latter abb<»y for the 
sake of protection only ; as it was necessary that 
she should do this in order to her espousals with 
Henry L (whose queen she afterwards became, 
and mother of the Empress Maud) ; in which 
year she was released from her monastic seclusion, 
not having taken the veil. Those of his father, 
the exile, were according to Rapin interred in St. 
Faul's, London. 

Should any farther trace of tliis truly noble and 
moat distinguished and chivalrous Saxon Prince 
be known to any of your readers, beyond what is 
thus disclosed by De Thoryas, or the circum- 
stance of his nia^animous rofinal of the crown 
and kingdom of Jerusidem when otFered to him by 
the Emperor of (Constantinople :il"ter his victories 
over the Arabians and rcconmiest of the Holy 
Land from the grasp of the Saracenic invader, 
and who thus carried for the first time the pres- 
tige of our national Anglo-Saxon valour into the 
far Ea^t, be yet upon record, the renewal and re- 
membrance of it in your piiges may probably 
prove not altowether uninteresting at the present 
time to more than one of your readers. 

As the military reputation acquired for his 
countrymen by this distinguished and memorable 

Anglo-Saxon champion, has never since been sur- 
passed by either of the An;;Iii-Norman monarcha, 
Rich. I. and Edw. L, who afterwards sought for 
glory upon the same illustrious fields ; nor yet 
the lustre which his arms then reflected ever since 
eclipsed by any succee<ling crusader in the Holy 
Land; although by subsequently joining in hia 
companion's raJsh cnterpriiie against the Conqueror, 
his prestige was ailu^rwards unhappily destroyed; 
your iniiiertion of this notice and inquiry after 
the rclictit of him, who thus laid the foundation of 
our future renown for deeds of arms in the far 
East, will greatly obligo 




This truly illustrious nobleman, created Boron 
Oattun of Kirby, co. Northampton, in IGiO, was 
the son of Sir Christopher Ilatton (knighted at 
the coronation of King James I.), who succeeded, 
as nearest kinsman, to the estates of the cele- 
brated chancellor of that name. He has been 
styled "the SlaBcenas of learning," and acquired 
considerable note as an industrious collector of 
antiquities in the form of public records and 
charteis, with other MSS. of historical interest. 
Among his collections was one highly valued and 
sedulously preserved, an original grant of William 
the Conqueror bestowing lands upon one of liis i 
ancestors at Hatton, co. Chester. This in the | 
civil wars wns preserved with great dilGculty by 
his wife ; and it is stated that " her lord palienll/ 1 
digested the plundering of his library imd other | 
rarities," when he received intelligence from Ladjr 
Ilatton that this relic was in safety. Himself a 
zealous anti([uury, he employed his wealth in 
patronising the ** working bees " of literature, and 
preserving in troublous times for future gene- 
rations the records of the past. 

The following unpublished letter, written by 
him to Sir William Lc Neve, will be read wita 
interest : — 

" Worthy Sr. — These lines are to present you with my 
hearty thanks for your weekoly good iiilellitfcncc. I am 
not a little gladd to hear? any good newes from ArandcU 
boute, therefore your uewes of tlia Barony of SlufTurd waa 
wellcomo. I m»h woe might hare good newcs oat of thd 
Ngrlh, that wee might with quiett apply our sclvea ta out 
stucldiea. I prav, S', if Oioper need worke, be pleased to 
supply him wilh some of yoar cboyce deodes. I haw 
recea%-ed a bvmnaning letter from M' Freeman for want 
of worke; at this distance I kuow not, but if you please 
to assign him somwimt tliat in your judgment i» worth 
my coppieing I will app<ii!il him to attend you. I ear' 
neatly lun^ tor yuar goud company, aieuriog you no I 
is muro your afiuctj(jii.ile friend 

" to serve you, 

"C'uii. Hattos, 

" Kirby, 20 Sept. Iti-lU. 
" Sr.— M' Dugdalo givaa j-ou many thanks 

S-J a X J«;i.r 7. '60.] 




tu year c«re of liia tnrne, and destrea you 
irill be pleased to cootioue itL 

{JdJirt*$ed) " To m.y noble frend S' VVilliara L« Nbt«, 
CUrcnceax King of Arme*, att bia lodg- 
iDl^n the olBce of amtes." 

Tbroujtb the foresight of this learned peer »t 
the outbreak of the disastrous civil sirupples, some 
of our national monuments and biograjihical evi- 
dences have been preserved from oblivion. For 
Bt bis own charge and expence the Mr. Dup<bile 
above mentioned (nfterwards the learned Sir Wil- 
liam'), together with a skilful arms-painter, were 
dispatched to the principal cathedrals, collegiate 
and other chiu'ches, there to copy as Accurately as 
possible arms, epitaphs, and monumenta, that at 
least some record of them might be handed down 
to better and less turbulent times. Dugdalc was 
a preat protege of Lord Hatton, and throiigh him 
received (treat promotion. We find hiui in 1648 
^corting Lady Elizabeth Hatton to her husband 
in Frnnee, nnd travellin? with them. 

Under date of 1659, Oct. 30, Lord Hotton wns 
the medium of a very extraordinary comtnuni- 
cation addreascd to Lord Clianeellor Hyde. It 
WHS no less a proposal than to form a coalition 
between the Kojalist and Parliamentary interests 
by a match between Kinr; Charles II. and the 
daarrhter of one of the leaders of the faction, Col. 
Xipmbert. He snys, — 

"... 1 have received from a very good hand a notion, 
whieh t am limiteil to decl.iro only l.o yourself nml Mr. 
Mer«tary Nirholns, to be communiratnl only to the King, 
SStd humbly to br^ the asAurince rnjm his MiiJ«sty U|i<)u 
tlw wont of a King tbat bu will impart it to do ]i«rson 
cLm whomsoever. And if ibis secrecy be not assured from 
his Ma'J and you both unto me, tlien will my corrc.«pon- 
dent (lesiit . . . It ii thrrcforc thought by the movera in 
this biitineai, that no secarity can aerve him who can 
settJe the Kiof; in his three thrones, but such a bond as 
the I'.'itablrtbed law of the nation cannot violate or braak, 
and that ia that the Ring should marry the Lord I^m- 
berl's daughter. Tbe grounds of the motion are the 
gnat eua and speed of settling tbe King's businem this 
way rather than any other. Tbe many difliculli» and 
T«ry hard conditions which is believed an found in ail 
other ways will be cut off, it being in this case the lady's 
fat« and inCoreat that it should be 8& And it is believed 
DO forei^ aid will l« so cheap, nor leave our master at so 
tnuch liberty as this way. The race is a verj' good 
gentleman's family, and kincs hnve ctmdescendefl to gen- 
tlawomen and subjects. Tbe lady is pretty, of an extra- 
ordinary sweetness of disposition, and very virtuously 
•ad inganaously disposed. The father is a person, sat 
■side his onhappy engagement, of very great parts and 
my noble inclinations, and certainly moru capable of 
beiog passed by than the rest I hive delivered my 
ncsMge, and am next to desire you will 8pe«l away to 
ma your two opinions whether you think fit to move it 
to onr master or not, and bovo any hopes it may be I!*- 
tancd unto. If you think it not &i, let me know, and let 
it die, and burn this letter. If yon find cause to propaw 
Iti then put all the exp«4lttion to it that may be, and if 
«iir master approve it, then let that be drawn up into a 
Utter," &c 4c. 

Ljttle did Lord Hattou imagine when he penned 

the above communication that the identicnl lad/ 
he was then negotiating tbr would become his ow^J 

The lupse of a few years developed strange ' 
events. 1660, Oct. 21, i.s the date of a warrant 
for this very John Lambert to be committed close 
prisoner to Guernsey, of which island Lord Hat- 
ton was governor. Through influence doubtless 
some indulgence was granted to tlie prisoniT, and 
licence was given to his wife and her thieo chil- 
dren to rejoin him. 

Lambert had two daughters, Frances and Mary. 
With ihe latter the povernor's son fell in love and 
formed a clandestine marriage. Lord Hatton (ia 
a document in the State Paper OQice) states that 
some of the islanders have endeavoured to bring 
him into disgrace, as having connived at the con- 
riet'tion of his son with the daughter of !i rebel; 
but he excuses himself as ignorant of ihe iuct, 
and that when it did come to his knowledj^e he 
discarded him entirely, turning him out of duors. 

\\'ith regard to this nobleman as an author, 
Wulpole, ill his Noble Aulhon, says, Christupher 
Lord Hatton published the Psalter of David with 
titles and collects according to the matter of each 
psalm (8vo., Oxford, 1C44). Wooil mention* the 
work as "theciim|iilaliun of Dr. Jerc«iy T'aylor,"* 
In (he Bodleian copy is this note in MS., — 

" For the use of the publiquo library of the famous tuil- 
vereity of Oxford, in testimony of the high esteem and 
offecti'on towaids ber by Christ' Ilatlon." 

Walpolo adds, — 

"A very long preface is likely, however, from its tenoor 
to bare proceeded from the peil of Taylor." 

If 80 it must hftVL> been dictated by Lord Hat- 
ton. Had it lieen ati anonymous work of Taylor's 
own composition, he would hardly in the preface 
have written such passages as the followin;;; they 
would rather point to the reputed noble author : 

" If any man's piety receives advantage by this intend- 
ment it is what I wish; but 1 desire that bis <h»rity 
might increase too, and that he would say a hearty 
pniycr for me and my family, for I am more desirous irty 
pnttfrity thould he piout than hoHotrrabte .... for there IS 
no honour so great as tu serve God in a great cap«cilie, 
nnd <Ao' I wait not nt Oie u/<ar yet I will pay there suoll 
oblations of my lime and Industrie <ii J cu" mkrm from 
tfir aert'lce of Uii lilojeitie and tJu unperCinencia of my wo* 

Walpole, in coatinuation, records that, — 
" In the decline of life Lord Hatton lea hU wife aod 
family to starve, and amused himself with a company ot 

• Such a report, unlosa accounted for by the 
imljeeility of age, does not accord with the enter- 
tained opinion uf the pious and erudite nobleiiuui., 

* Upon the Rulhority of Keimett we tiave (he aaseve- 
rstion of Captain ilattu'n, son of Lord Ilattoo, that ihough 
Mr. Kovston published one edilion under the niime of Pr. 
Tavlor.'it was in reality the 5wd\js.tiK(CL <A Va^a."*!" 



[2«« a X. JcLT 7. w. 

^fnor fiatti. 

Web or ran Spidf.r a Rkmkdt fob Fbveb. — 
In the Indian Lancet for Ist April is n cnintnuni- 
cation irora. Dr. Donnldsoo, recommending the 
web of tlie common spider ns an unfailing remedy 
for certain fevers. It is stated to be iiivalimble 
at times when rjuinine and other ante-period ics 
fail in effect or quantity, not only from its effi- 
cacy, but beeuusc it tan be obtained .anywhere 
witbuut trouble and witbuut price. Thi» remedy, 
it was observed, was used a century back by the 
poor in the fens of Lincolnshire, and by Sir 
James M'Gregor in the West Indies. The Doc- 
tor now uses cobweb pills in all his worst cases, 
and IS stated to have said that he has never, since 
he tried them, lost a patient from fever. 

Arc there any records in Lincolnshire of the 
nse of spiders' web with success in fever coses ? 

WiixiAM Blood. 


the collector of records, the patron of Dugdale, 
the friend of Jeremy Taylor, and the author of 
David's Psalmody. I cannot do better than quote 
the entire passage alluded to, as given in the Life 
of Dr. J. North : — 

"Ami once at the iostance of liia motliflr he (Dr. 
North) made a visit to the LaJv Iliilton, h«r Bister, at 
Kerlij- iu Northmnptonsliiro. He found his aunt there 
forsaken bvber hiuband tho old Lur<l Hatton. lie lived 
in Scotland Y«rd, and lUverlcd himseir witti tlie com- 
pany and'discoarse of player? and such idle people that 
came to him. while his family lived in want at Kerby. 
Be bad cominitlcd the whole conduct there to a r«rourite 
daogbter, who was not over kind to her mother. Thia 
noble Lord liad bright parts, and professed also to be re- 
ligious for he published a Book of Psalms with a praver 
snitablo to each framed by himself, which book is called 
HattoD's Psalms, and may bo found in the closets of 
divers devout persona. Such difTcrence is often found 
between men's pretensions and actions. 'Hie famous 

yando M m used in bis drink to curse him for writing 

Paaumes (as he termed it) and not paying n debt daa to | 
Uim. 'Jbe good old lady gave her nephew (Dr. X.) oa 
good an entertainment as she could ; that is, took him 
into bogger mugger in her closet, where she usually had 
■ome good pye or plumb cake which her neighbours in 
compassion sent her in, for the housekeeping was very 
mean, and she bad not the command of any thing when 
bet Lord died.' The care of her and the whole family, 
and the rained estate of it, devolved upon that truly 
noble person her oldest son, who, by an unparalleled pru- 
dence and application, repaired the shattered estate, act 
his brother (tbe incomparable Cliarlss Uatton) and his 
siater at ease. And his signal and pious care of bis good 
mother is never to bo fargol ; for he took her, destitute 
of all jointure and provision, home to him, and enter- 
tained her with all tbo indul^encs and t'onifort be could. 
And tlio lady was pleased to declare that tho latter end 
of her age was the beginning of the true comfort of her 
lift." ^ -6 6 

Cl. Hofpeb. 

Thb Solent, the Swale, asd Solwat Fisth. 
— The Solent is that part of the straits dividing 
the Isle of Wight and Hants which stretches! 
from the Southampton Water to the Needles. 
The Swale is the strait which divides the Isle of 
Shcppey from Kent. And Solwny Firth divides 
England and Scotlnnd on tho western coast. All 
these possess a prominent fe.iturc in common, 
having extensive till or mud'banks throughout 
their course, and hence their names. Dr. Ricliard- 
son has, "Sile, Silt," perhnps from A.-S. Syli'Cm, 
to soil." From the same source come "soil " and 
"soiling," "sully" and "suUiage," the latter mean- 
ing " tlie soil, or nn accumulation of soil." Hal- 
liwell in his Archaic words lias the following, 
evidently from the same source. " Soltc}/, sullied, 
defiled (A. N.)," and "SteeliA, mud and filth 
(Nares)." From the same source a silted-up 
pond, about three miles cast of Lymington, in 
Hants, is called " Sowley Pond." C. T,' 



Political Satires. — The sag;»estion of your 
correspondent FiTziioPKiJis (S"* s. is. 452.) is a 
very valuable one, and one which I shall hope to 
see carried out in your pages ; and I hope more- 
over that your correspondents will not limit them- i 
selves to the illustration of The JioHiad, I'hel 
Probationary Odes, and Tlie Political MiscpllanicaA 
Much as has been done in the columns of " N. Sc\ 
Q." to identify the authorship of The Podnj nf 
the Anti-Jacobin, many of the allusions In it liavs 
already become obscure, and require clearinffl 
up to enable the present generation to enjoy 
to the full the wit of Canning and his n.s5ociiites. 
The same observation applies with greater forc« 
to the writings of Sir C. Hanbury Williams, aU 
though they have had the advantage of a compe- 
tent editor ; but who perhaps knew too well what' 
his author meant — that is, was himself bo tho- .i 
roughly master of the points that he could 
scarcely imagine .nnybody to be ignorant of them. 
But the various Jeux tfesprit and ])olitical sauibs 
preserved in the Fouitrlling Hospital for Wit — 
The Asylum, Sf-c. — abound with so many obscare 
allusions, that I may well invite the assistance of 
such of the readers of "N. & Q." as are acquaintc " 
with the history of the times to give us the bene-] 
fit of their information, and enable us to shars^ 
their enjoyment of these offsprings of the muse < 
politics. FiTz Fit 


* Lord Hatton died Jnlr, 1 670, leaving two sons, Chris- 
tofiteT and Charles, and threo daaghters. 



In the year 1550, as King Edward VI. has re- 
corded in his Journal under the 20th June, " it 
was appointed that the Germaincs should hare 
the Austin Friars for their Church, to have their 
service iu, for avoiding of all sects of Anabaptists 
and such like." This was done chiefly by "*— " 

ipt S. X, JOLY 7. W.] 




iflfluence of John u Liuco, a Pole of high ranli, 
-wbo had arrived in England on the ISlh of May 
in the anine year. ITie letters patent constituting 
this Church, which \raa to be called "Tcmplum 
Domini Jesu,'' were dated on the 24th of July, 
and will be found in Rymer's Fadera, xv. 242., 
and in Burnet's H^atory of the Reformation, vol. 
ii., Collection of Records, No. 51. JoLu ii Lasco, 
" natione Polanus," was constituted the first super- 
intendent ; and as ministers were noiuinated Gual- 
terus Je Bocmls, Martinus Flandrus, Franciscus 
Biveriiis, andlCodolphus Gollus. By these names 
it would seem that the country of each was desig- 
nated ; but I am not sUre that such was the fact. 
The first name is variously read Deloenus, instead 
of tfc Boemis; and what would be the mcauing of 
Riceriux f 

1. In the Index to the Works of the Parker 
Society, the first is entered ns " Deloenus (Gual- 
ter) or Walter Delvin." I believe the true name 
was Deloene, but should be glad to learn from 
whence he came. 

2. The Fleming was certainly Martinus Micro- 
nius, some of whose letters written in London arc 
printed in the collection from Zurich printed for 
the Parker Society. 

3. Franciscus lliverius was Perusel, afterwards 
the minister ot Wesel in the Duchy of Cleves, 
wbo befriended the Duchess of Suliblk in her 
exile, as appe&rt in Foxe'a interesting narrative of 
that matter. 

4. Xhefourth was Vauville, who married Joanna, 
the attendant on the wife of Bishop Hooper. lie 
is sometimes called Richard iiistcad of Rodolpb, 
but I suppose by misJake. 

Having failed to find these mini^stcra duly de- 
scribed in Mr. J. S. Burn's History of the Foreign 
Protestant liefugeet, 1846, I submit the above 
notices for correction and anipUQcation. 

It is noticed by Strypo, Fcdes. Memorial, vol. 
ii. p. 241., that Martin Micronius ctirried the re- 
gister of the Dutch church with him to Enibden, 
when that church was broken up on Queen Mary's 
accession. Is that register still in existence f 

Joii.N GouGH Nichols. 

Blake (iuKBtss. — Can any of the readers of 
" N. & Q." point out the connexion and arrange- 
ment of the following materials of a pedigree of 
Blake ? — 

1. The celebrated Admiral Hubert Blake had 
the following brothers, viz.: 1. Humphrey; 2. 
(Dr. of Physic) William ; 3. George, who obtained 
in 1671 a patent for erecting a lighthouse in Bor- 
badoes ; 4. Alexander ; 5. Samuel, an olficcr ; 6. 
Benjamin ; 7. Nicholas, a Spanish merchant of 
London trading with the West Indies. 

2. In Jamaica, Nov. C, 17l7,we find the birth of 
Benjamin, son of Benjamia and Blake, lu 

1743 tlie marriage of Alexander Blake and Ha- 

gar Williams. 

The deaths of Elizabeth Blake, Nicholas Blake, 
and Benjamin Blake, circa 1750-60. These three 
were the children of Benjamin Bloke. The younger 
Benjamin again had four children, viz. : 1, Wil- 
liam Blake, Speaker of the House of Assembly ; 
2. Benjamin William Blake j 3. Nicholas Allen 
Blake ; 4. Margaret Bonella Blake. 

3. In Barbadoes we find the will of Elizabeth, 
wife of Nicholas Bl.-die (merchant of London, and 
of Bishop's Mead, Kent), in 1G63, in which their 
son Nicholas is mentioned, and their relatives 
Prideaux, Mortimer, Turville, and Wilson, la 
1664, we find the marriage of the elder Nicholas 
Blake and Mrs. Mary Mussinden, and his mar- 
riage again with Mrs, Judith , who died la 

1667. He himself died in 1G82. B. 

SocTU Sjea Stock. — Are there in the British 
Museum any printed documents containing lists 
of the holders of South Sea Stock at any time 
from 1711 to 1720? G. A. S. L. 

The Cooler of Glocksteh. — Con any reader 
of " N. & Q." give me information respecting the 
notable personage written of under this name, or 
who were the authors of the pamphlets respecting 
him, and the circumstancefi iindRr which they 
were written? I have in my possession — 

" Tbc Life and Death of lUlph Wall!) ibe CoNer of 
GlocetUr; togetlicr tritti some iaf]aii7 into the Myfllery 
of ConvcuUcleisai. LoDtloD, printed liy E. Okes for Wil- 
liam WhitwooJ, 1670," 

And I nerceivc that the Collectanea Glocealri- 
ensia, in the possession of John Dclofield Phelps, 
Esq., Chavenage House, contains in addition to 
this tract others, entitled " Room for the Coblcr 
of Glocester and his Wife," " The Cobler of Glo- 
cester revived," and " The Young Cobler of Glo- 
cester, or Magna Charta — Discourse of between 
a poor Man and his Wife." But all I am able to 
gather from the first, which is the only one I have 
read, is, that a religious controversy was carried 
on with great violence, and that some conti'over- 
ai&tist at, or probably officially connected with, 
Glocester took part in it, and was soundly abused 
by an opponent in the abovc-mentioBed imaginary 
biography. J- "• "• 

Stbnch akd Smeix. — 

" Ho observed that stink or stench meant no more 
thaa a strong improwiott oa the oUactory nerves, and 
might be applied to nibitanees of the moat opposite 
qualities; that in tliu Dutch ItDguage stinkcn signified 
the moat agreeable pcrfunio ai well as the moat fetid 
odour, as appears in Viin Yloudel's translation of Horaca 
in lint beautiful ode, Quit mulfu graeiUt, &c. The words 
liquidit perfuMur odoribut, Ue translates, ran eieet e nos- 
ciaia ^(iaAen." — Jlmnplin/ Cliii/ier, ToL t p. 28. ed. 

Is the above quotation genuine, or manufac- 
tured by Smollett for the occasion ? I cannot find 





wujtchiibi in tlie Dutch dictionary ; and the dis- 
tinviiiiii between stiulwn and rieken is as cluiuly 
mmkeil lis in ticurh and smell, stiukrn Itaving al- 
yiays a bad un-nuiiig, nnd rieken genenilly » pood 
one. Tht' words do not run lilse verse. Is Van 
Vloudcl a Dutch author P E. M. 

Abmobial. — In the old moated house oC the 
WnllcTS at Groorobridge, by Tonbridge Wells, 
tberv is ■ painting of a female with the rfillowin;j; 
»rni<iri»l beftring* : Per pali-, 1. Azure a niaunch 
arjicnt, a crescent Cftdencjr. "2. Snbic a fes« be- 
tween three sheep or aniinuhi resembling them, 

Al»n, on Another picture are three coats with — 
Per pule, dexter, Waller; middle, a 84dlirc engrailed 
ermiiiu between four rouudels, on u chief a doe 
ooaclmnt sinister, oa three bends eight martlets, 

If unr correspondent can inform the writer to 
whom tlie above arnioriul Lcurinj^g belong he will 
much oblige Aeuioeb. 

Srnf.x's "Map or Ihki<akd." — I have a good- 
Bized und rather well-executed map, entitled "A 
New Map of Ireland, from the latest Observation," 
hy John Senc;i, and " inscrib'd to the Right Hon. 
Simon Lord Lovat, &c., 17'20." Were any other 
maji9 ItMued hy the same individual ? Aduba, 

ANaLiir: LACocirr. — Is the name "Anglin" 
known as an original English, Sc-otch, or Irish 
name ? And If sn, tx) what Hicidity does it belong? 
If not, is it known as a French name, or as a 
Scandinavian one? Is the name "Laemint"to 
be found in the British Isles ? G. A. S. L, 

Rib EnwAHD DBsn^o. — According to Mr. 
Forster'n Arrent of the Five Meniheni (p, 2.10.), 
Sir K. Dering was, in 1641-2, expelled the House 
of Coronidna for the preface to his speeches ngninst 
the Grand Remonstrance. But, at p. 350., we 
find him taking part in the prnceeaings of the 
Committee at Grocers' Hall. Had he been re- 
stored to his position in the meanwhile ? 

G. M. G. 

AisLABrB OF Sttjdlbt, Co. ToBK.— Elizabeth, 
daughter of John, 6lh Enrl of Exeter, married 
Wm. Aisljibie, Esq,, son and heir of John Aisla- 
bie, Esq., of Studley, and died leaving issue 
several children. Who were these children ? What 
connexion was there between George Aislabie, of 
Studley, Esq., whose daughter married Sir Wm. 
Bofainaon, Oart., and the above-named Elizabeth ? 


Paoi. Washttotoh aliat HAnni, of Christ's 
College, Cambridge, in or about lfi29, wrote a 
pamphlet against Archhishop Ussher. Anjr in- 
formution respecting this pamphlet or its author 
will be acceptable to C. H. & Thompsom Coopeb. 


RoocBT Rkmisgtox, nf Peterhotise, U.A. 157J>- 
80, wns subsequciitlv knighted, and made Pre- 
si'lent of Munstcr, He wax the vounger brulher 
of Richard Remington, succes<iively archdeacon of 
Cleveland nnd the East Riding of York. Any 
farther particulars relative to Sir Robert Rem- 
ington will be acceptable to 

C. II. & Tbompsom Coopeb. 


VowKL Sounds. — Is there any work in exist- 
ence tsacing the change of sound which the vowels 
have undeigune since printing was introduced? 

In such words as Aaron, Naaman, Caaba, Ca- 
naan, Sidaam, Baol, Krajd, was not the double a 
intendeil to represent the sound " ay," as in 
" day " ? And ought not the accent to fall on the 
syllable which cuniains the double a? J. J. S. 

Altiehi. — Who is the author of an English In- 
terlinear translation of Merape, according to the 
Hamiltonian system, published about thirty yeans 
since ? Is there nn English translation of Orettut 
by Mr. W. R. Wright, in the secnnd edition of 
Horct lonic<e and other Poetm, London, 1816? 

A. Z. 

Maelstrom. — Where shall I find the following 

" Ue Innked down on the Jlaelstrom and the men ia 

H. M. Pabkpr. 

Iktebludes. — In the Amateuri Magasine, pub- 
lished abtmt the end of 1855 and 185<>, 1 find the 
titles of the following interludes and dramatic 
sketches: — No.IV. Nov. IMS, "Furnished Apiirt- 
menls," an interlude. Same number, "Two Scenes 
in a Cathedral." No. V. Dec 1835, "The Lucky 
Picture," an interlude. No. VI. "A Scene in a 
Scottish University." 

As I cannot obtain a sicht of this publiciition, 
could you oblige me by giving the names or ini- 
tials of the authors, if these arc to be found in the 
magazine ? A. Z. 

" TiTB MAirrscBiPT." — There was published &. 
book with the following title, The Travels of Hn- 
maniu in iearch of the Tetnple of Happinent, an 
allegory, by William Lucas, London, 1809, I-2mo. 
At the end of the volume there is a short inter- 
lude, called "The Manuscript." What is the 
subject of this piece, and who are the dramatit 
pernonce f A. Z. 

TiiE Reat CorxTBT. — Will you allow me, 
through your " N. & Q.," to ask. How first came 
the name of the Reay Country to be 80 desig- 
nated, its Original name having becis as you ara 
aware, Strathnaver, from Strtith, in Scotch a val- 
ley, and Kuver, the river which watered it, or 
ran through it ? Did the first proprietor OP 
tcnant-in-ohief give his name to It? or was it 
called the Rcay Country from the reays, or red 


9^ a X. Jvvx -. •CO.] 




deer which run over it, the Anglo-Saxon name 
for a mc deer bein^; ra f I nun gomethin^ in 
jour Notes in relation to il evuie time ago, but 
nothing accounting fur the imnio. Therefore 
perbnps you will indulge uij curiosity, nnd insert 
the Query in itnoth«r ibrm i Oiw Rat. 

Randle Cotgravb, of Cheshire, admitted 
•cbolar of St. John's Collegp, Cambridge, on the 
Ladj Morgnret's foundation, 10th Nov. 1587, is 
sutbor of a French and English Dictionary, pub- 
lished 1611, and subsequently reprintud several 
times. AV'e shall be glad of any inTuruiation re- 
specting him. Was he son of Hugh Ci)tgTave, 
Kichoioad Uerold, trhu died in or about 1584 ? 

C. II. & Tho.vp»on Coopeb, 

Ilicn\RDs's Wr.ix'n Dictionary. — I have IiUcly 
met with a Welch and English Dictionarjr by 
Tbomju Richards, curate of Coychun-b, jniblished 
at Bristol in 17^3. It seems a vjduiibk und well- 
executed compilation, go far as a stranger can 
judge. It is doubtless, however, well known to 
jour British readers, and I shull feel obliged if 
they will communicate to " N. & Q." their opinion 
of the book, as a work of authority or otherwise. 


"AxBJoK Maoaziise." — A magazine under the 
title of the Albion Mtigasine was published itbout 
the year 18'2!), under the editorship of Mr. J. B. 
Rcvis, I believe in Liverpool. If any correspon- 
dent of'^N. & Q." haa a copy of the first number, 
I sbunld feel t&ry much obliged by the loan of it 
for a few days. Wiluam J. Tuoms. 

40. St George'i Square. 
BelgraveRoad, S.SV. 

Charles Jobkbton. — Where moy I find any 
biographical particulars of Charles Johnston, or 
Johnson, the author of Chrytol; or, the Atleeu- 
berei of a Guinea* Watkins docs not give nmeh 
respecting him in his Biof^raphical Dictionary ; 
and the " Sketch of the Author's Life," prefixed 
to (I believe) the last edition of Chrysal (3 voU. 
12ino. London, 1822), is not much more explicit. 
Wills, in his Lives of Illustrious and Distingnithed 
Jrukmev, gives hiin only si.x or seven lines (vol. vi. 
p. 311.). Abhda. 

Oucrictf (sttli ^nititri. 

GsRnERTi " De Ahtk MusicA." — Can you give 
me any infonnation about the work of the Abbot 
Gerbert, De Arte Miisica a prima Eeclfs. ^^tat., 
•fc. f When published ? Wbetlier procurable, 
or where it can be seen P R. F. S. 

J,Tbii work ii entitlad: "De Caola et Uusica Sacra a 
vnma \ux\iiKimJF.Uite usque ad pn^aeoi Tcmpas. Aucloro 
alartlno Gerbcrto, MonjLsteril el Cong. S. Hlrwii in Silvd 
Nigr. Abbate 8. Q. R. I. P. Trpis S«n-Bliisi«ni». 1774." 
3 Vols. 4l€>. There i« a copy of it in ihe Diititb MoMum 
Mtd ia ths Bodlcisfl Libra'rv. Gerbert divided bin his- 

tory of chnrcb miwie into three parti: the Brut finishes 
at the ponlificale of St. Gregory; fbc second go*g no far 
as ttii> fifieiiith reiitorv ; and the third lo liis own lime. 
In 17«4, 1j* publisliL-J « work of more iniporlinic». under 
the title of •' Scriplorc* Kcclwiasliei iIh Musioi Sxcr^^ 
potinsinmm ex variis Italiw, Gallias, mI Oermsiiiif CodH" 
ciljoa c(]IUcti." 8 Tol«. 410. 'Ibis ia a collettion of ill 
the oiiocnt iiulhots who have written on music, fruni the 
thiol cynliir)' to the invention of prmtiii);. and whose 
works hail remained in nianuacript. Furkel has eiven an 
■naly.'is of it in his UiUoirt dt la Mutii^e. Gcrberl died 
in 17^3.3 

" Kikg's Prerocattte nf Impositioks." — Can 
you acquaint me with the name of the " Itite 
leiirned judge" who wrote or delivered the fol- 
lowing dtseoursc : — 

" A learned and npcessary argnment lo prove that eacll 
subject hnlh n prxipriety in bis Goods. Shewing also ths 
extent of the Kind's Prerogative in Imponilions upon the 
Goods of Slun-hanla exported and Jiiiporti,-d qui of and 
intt) this Kingdorii. Togtthur with a reinonslrance pre- 
sented lo the King's most excellent Majesty by the 
Honorable Iloaae of Commons in the Parliament holder- 
Anno Dom. 1610, Annoq. Itegls Jacobi, 7. By a IstaJ 
learned Jutlge of this Kingdome. London. l'riiile<l by 
Iticliard Bishop fjr John Iturroughes, and arc to be sold 
St his Shop at the signo of the Gulden Disgun neare the 
Inner Temple gate in Fleet street, 1C41." 

Et>w. York, 

[This work ia by Sir Henry Yelverlon, appointed 
Judijeof the Common Pleas, May 10, 1625. This learned 
argument, ihiiugli written in IGIO, was not puUli<he4 , 
till Kill, eleven yearn after the antbor's death, nnd re- 
pntjlisheil in 12mo. 1058. It was edited tjy J. I)., i. «,! 
.John Brj'dall. Sec Foaa's Jutigrt of England, rl, SSJ-J 
for n valiintile biographical notice of this eminent jadgttj 
Con.'ialt also onr last volume, p. 882.] 

" Requo DELI.B DUE SiciuE." — The question^ 
" What is the real meaning of the title * Regno 1 
delle due SicilieT'" is I know repeatedly nsked. 
I have turned to several books of reference which 
profess to explain " things not generally known," 
but as yet have found no explanation of thitfl 
terra. R. C. 

fin 1720, tho Aaatrians added Sicily to the kingdom 
of Naples. But the war of 1734, waged by France and 
Spain against Austria, transferred the crown of Naplo^j 
with this appeivlage, tu a scion of tho roj'ol bouse a(' 
Spain (the lufant Dun Carlos), the new monarch a^um* 
ing the title of" King of the Two Sicilies." Hence the 
terms " Itugno delle due Sicilie," " Soyaumo del deux 
Sitiles," &c 

Tlie application of the terra " Sicily " lo the kingdom 
of Nnplea as well as to Sicily the island ia duo to tba 
liistwical fact or tradition tliat a people called "Siculj " 
iohabited for a while the South of Italy, passed over into 
Sicily, and tbeie settled.] 

Oi,» Tom. — Wniat is the origin of "Old Tom " 
85 applied to cordial gin ? Anow. 

[When Messrs. Ilrdgcs, the celebrated distillers, carried 
on business nt Millbank, they had a partner named 
Thomas Chamberlain, who tnaaufaclored the gin, and as 
tho firm were patroni.tcd by Thomas Norris when he left 
their oerHce and opened a gin palac« in Great Hnsaall 
Street, Covenl Garden, oat of respect to his former i 
h« cbristeoed the cordial '•OV&Tuia.^'A 


[2~« & X. JvvT 7. '60. 

OtFROK. — Whence does the French island «o 
called derive its name ? G. J. S. 

[A( rormer names or this iiland. Expilly. in his Diet 
Gcog^ iii. 8G0., gives Ularitu, OTOlari'o; and Forbiger, 
in his Nandli. tier all. Geoy. iii. 172., gives Uttana, or 
ObrionriMM Intula, referring for the foriDer to Plio. 4. 
19. 88., and for the latter to Sidon. ApolL Kp. S. «. Ac- 
cording to Valejiius, an excellent authority, Uliarui is the 
more aDoient name (Xotit. Gall., 1<>"5, p. •>•*•) llie totn 
of Oleion (in the I^owcr Fvrene«u) was formerly Oloro, 
Eloro, or Iloro, and sUll more anciently CivUat £UorO' 
fitnaum. ] 

Toads foukd Atrrm in Stone Corrraa, btc. — 
At Fountains Abbey, in Yorkshire, a large stone 
coffia is shown to the visitor ; and he is expected 
to beh'eve that upon its being opened (after Ijring 
buried for centuries) n large toad crawled out. 

And I have Lcard several workmen most posi» 
lively declare that npon breaking one of the 
round ironstone nodules (cominon in certain coal 
, mines), they found it similarly occupied; and that 
in this instance the load crawled n few yards on 
I the ground, and immediately died. Perhaps some 
'^' of the readers of " N. & Q." will be able to furnish 
more authentic accounts of this curious and inter- 
esting phenomenon. H. F. 

[It is a well known fact In mitaral history that the 
toad, like many otlier amphibia, can support a long ab- 
stinence, and requires but a aniall quantity of oir; Dr. 
Shaw, however, questions the accounts gene'rallr given of 
»och animals diw:or«rod in stones, wood, &c' alter Ihe 
lapae of many years, as will bo seen in the following ex- 
tract from bis ijtncral ZooUigy, vol. iii. pL i. p. 144. (edit. 
1802) : " It might seem unpardonable to conclude the 
history of this animal without mentioning the very ox- 
traordinarj- circumstance of its having been occasionally 
discovered inclosed or imbedded, withoat any visible 
outlet, or even any passjige for air, in the substance of 
wood, and even in tlmt of stone or blocks of innrblc. For 
my own part, I have no hesitation in avowing a very 
high degree of aceptidsra as to these supposed facts, and 
in ezpresttog my saspicions that proper attention, in 
BQch cases, was not paid to Ihe real situation of the ani- 
mal .... The general run of such accounts must be 
received with a great many grains of allowance for the 
natural love of the marve'llon<i, the sarpriao excited by 
the sudden appearance of the animal in an unsuspected 
place, and the consequent neglect of minnte attention at 
the moment to the sarrounding parts of the spot where it 
iras discovered." The French Academy, in 1771, enclosed 
I three toads in as many boxes, whicli were immediately 
, covered with a thick coat of plaster or mortar, and kept 
In the apattmeuLs of the Academy. On opening these 
boxes eighteen months aflerwards/two of the toads were 
found still living; these were immediately reinclosed, but 
npon being again opened some months after were found 



(1" S. i. ii. V. vi. passim.) 

No satisfactory account of the origin of the 

custom of college salting has as yet been given in 

^vjiJ^ to the inguiries made in tJie first and sub- 

sequent volumes of the 1* Series of "N. & Q." 
Nevertheless it has been considered, even by 
ecclesiistical writers, of sufficient importance for 
discussion, as will be found by the reader who 
consults that cyclopoidia of amusement, Dorimvii 
Ampkithealnim SapieiUia Soeraticce Joco-Seria, 
containing four articles on the " Depositio in Aca- 
demiis usitata," which, as your valuable corre- 
spondent Db. Rimuaclt has remarked, included 
tlio ceremony referred to. As this book is become 
extremely rare, I shall extract some passages from 
the original Latin, which show the antiquity and 
religious origin of this " scholastica militia." Of 
one containing a description of the tricks played 
upon Freshmen, I venture to subjoin a transla- 
tion : — 

" Verba Gregorii Xazumzcnl brevlter rontracia, qao- 
niam multam doctrinam continent, subjicio. Qoando 
aliquem (Athcnicnsis acidcmiic docti viri) nncti sunt, 
inquit, discipulum, ridiculum sane <|iiem in modum ilium 
exagitent aut dcludont, nt ejus fostum ct arrogantiam ^^ 
(si quam forte habet) exstinguant, el humooum, ac fa- ^H 
cUcm rcddant." ^M 

He then compares the initiations in various 

countries, and the end contemplated, viz. to con- , 

sidcr how the nature of the novitiates " sorteth ^M 

with professions and courses of life :" — ^U 

" Exposal hactenns causos, ut poUicilus sum ; seqoitur 
typas. Depositio eat ritns in scholia usitatus a majorlbua 
institutua lusui jocoao non absimilis, ostendens oniiies eaa 
tijflicultatca aK|ue calaiiiitatea quos quemque ex Dei op- 
timi altisslmique voluntatc, aut concessione ferre con- 
vcuil, atquc adco ojiortet in hac sua scholastica militia." 

lie confirms this signification of the cerouioaiea 
by an interesting anecdote in the life of Luther, 
related by Jobimnes Matthcsius. Of the par- 
ticular ceremony, which was originally referred to 
by Dk, A£AiTL.tND (1" S. i. SGL "College Salt- 
ing "), our author supplies the same symbolism ns 
that in I'* S. ii. 151. But in juxta-position with 
" sal doctrinal et sapientiffi symbolum," is " wine 
which tmiketh glad the heart of man," as in the 
plate described by Dk. RiMBAtJLT (!•' S. i. 492.) : 

" Sicut ille (sal) ia cibis paalo liberalius aspcrsas, si 
tamen non sit immodicus, adfcrt aliqald propri.ij rolupta- 

tii ita per hnnc adumbrata omnium acUonuni 

sapiens inslitutio quiddam habet qnod potiundi sitim 
facit. IIjbc aurca mcdiocritaa eat per subsequentia in 
rita de quo agimus vini adhibitionem indicata. TIoc 
enim medioeritatis norma servata adhibitum cor hominU 
exhilarat, in e.Tcessu ridiculos, bellicosos, lachtymosoa et 
sordidos ciet alfectua. . . . Usus itaquo vini modum, op- 
portunitatem, locum atque teiupus in dcrvro sapientia 
luu sails loonstrato! dcuotat . . . ne inconcinni videa- 
mur." (Compare Bacon's Adtancaiteiit if Ltatning, 
book T-iii. chap, ii., and the authorities cited \>y Shaw, in 
Devay's edition, p. 298.) 

In the next article Martin Luther inculcates 
the usefulness of these humiliations (depositiones), 
OB vraludia of the cares and dangers of life. 

The Dialogue of Jacobus Pontanus, from which 
the concluding extract is taken, is followed by 





hexameter and iambic reraea by Fridericua Wide- 
bramui : — 

" Oa my first entnoc^," urs Narduui, " Mine of tbem 
uUate tnc as the Prince of Freshmen (Arciiibeanus); 
otb«n grin and jeer; lome i^erislrely point their midtlle 
fijigcr: at length tliev all crowd around me, and pluck 
me u birds do ta owl. I wis forced to lie down on my 
Vack, ttretched oat and molionlcsj like a corpse, I was 
moit liberally thrashed on my lege, armii, and ribn. nay, 
on my whole body, and nicely adjusted with bntcbet, 
adze, and axe, as if I were a beam of timber. It is there- 
fore no wonder you think me thinner thaai I was yester- 
day or the d.iy before, Bince I have con-siderably by 
thc«« chipping operations.* Then these kind barbers 
abared ine, although as yet I um guiltless of a beard; 
they donaed oiy hea<l in cold water, which I was myself 
forced to brjng from the kitchen in a dirty copper kettle, 
whilst one of the merriest kept splashing the water in 
my face and shoving me forward. Afterwards I was 
combed down with a comb no Aaer than a rake, and 
which rcminde<i me of the comb of Polyphemus in Ovid. 
Aa to the towel they rubbed mo down with, its smooth- 
neaa and softness corresponded with the rest of the toilet. 
.... And what is more, for such injuries and onlragi>8 
as these, andescrved as they were, I had ever so much 
money to pay, to return thanks, and to take a formal 
oath that 1 would never seek to revenge myself. If I 
had not taken it, I could with difiiculty refrain from re- 
turning their kindness in full to some of my more active 
torturers, .... Hear further nn Admirable" trick. Tbev 
placed before me an inlulaud, with pens and paper, and 
Old me write something. When I attempted to open the 
inkstand, I found the lid was iomioveable: the whole 
being one solid piece of wood turned iu the shape of an 
Lnlutand. Hereupon one of tliem jumped up, and rapp«d 
ma on the ftngera with a stick. ' I'e Uods,' says he, ' this 
greenhorn has not yet learned how to open an inkstand.' 
They all roared. Verily my fingers itched to punch 
their heads. Then some rascal secretly thrust into my 
trowaera- pocket a letter supposed to bo written by my 
mother, which he drew out and read aloud bufore iham 
aU amidst the most uproarioui laughter from himself and 
his companions. I'ho contents were as follows: — My 
mother lamented my absence, and consoled me in llie 
most silh' and weak manner: saving how carefully she 
had nursed, how often kissed her swccteat chitJ, how 
carefully she had brought me up, and how sbo bad made 
ms her darling all my life, colting me her little angel, her 
sweet lambkin, her chickabiddy sweeter than honey. 
Then she added that she could not sleep at night, and 
that she ^bed floods of tears every day oa account of tlio 
torments she bad beard I must suffer in this depositio. 
Of coarse this epistle was concocted and ivritten by luy 
tonuentOM themselves, llow they enjoyed it — they al- 
most bnrst with laughter; they thrust the letter into my 
fiace. Eow tliev kuockcd me about! I had rather die 
than go through it again. If I had known what I had 
to Bodergo, I would have gone where there are schools io 
irbich nothing of this sort is allowed." 


' Si qua dant« Deo tarn craaao e sUpite poaaim, 
Fingere Mercurium, ct quod curvum est poncre 
rectum." — tFidebramui, 

" Ut hunc novum ecu mililem 
Nostrum rcferre in ordinem 
Queama.s equ« siipite 
Fonnare doctam Palladoin." 


ii"* S. ix. 88. 234. 454.) 

It is rather strange that yotir coirespondcnt 
R. S. Q. should oppose to the very highest au- 
thority on n matter of pure French philolo^, 
quoted by me as to the meaning of coqiteliner, the 
Knglish nuthority of Dr. Samuel Pegge, referring 
to another English authority, Cotgrave ! Pegge 
and Cotgrave vermu tlic French Academy, on 
the meaning of a French word ! Just reverse the 
case. Sup[iose an appeal to a French critic from 
the decisions of Jobnsoa, ICichardson, or Webster, 
on the signification of a purely English word. 
The inconcenatice would be at once apparent ; 
and yet the Academie is of greater authority 03 
to French than any indivi Juuil lexicographer here 
05 to English. 

The Dktionnaire de f Academie, as I observed, 
altogether ignores the word in the original work. 
But some twenty years ago (in 1842) there issued 
from the press of Firmia Didot Frerei, printers 
to the French Institute, a moat learned produc- 
tion, which, it would appear, is not yet much 
known in Englniid. This is the Complement du 
Dictionnaire de rAcadrmie Franqaise, published 
under the auspices of the Academy, and uoder 
the immediate direction of one of its members, 
aisisted by twenty collahoratotrs, consisting of the 
most distinguisheil savans, and whose names ap- 
pear on the title-page. It is nearly as voluminous 
ns the original work, containing not less than 
12S1 p.ages of large quarto size, and each page 
having four columns of small print. Now a part 
of the plan is to introduce all old, quaint, and 
obsolete words ; and these may be counted in the 
book by thousands, for there ure' on an average, 
I think, at least twenty in a pnge, marked "V. 
lang " {Kieur laugage), Coqndiner Is consequently 
admitted, with ita sole meaning, the crowing of a 
cock. The work is preceded by a very learned 
philological disrjuisition from the pen of JI. Barre, 
Professof of Philosophy, in which, among other 
tilings, the merits of all previous lexicographers 
are discussed. And is our own Randle Cotgrave 
tliero Djentioned ? He is, and with very high 
comtnendiition, as be deserves to be ; for assuredly 
bjs Dictionary is excellent. But stiti, being an 
Englishman — employed also, I will observe in 

Iiassing, as secretary to William Cecil, Lord 13 ur- 
eigb — he was liable to mistakes, of which M. 
Barrd gives the following curious specimen : — 

" La nomenclature do Cotgrava est ricJia j on pourrait 
m&ue dire qu'elle est eiobi?rante : car dea mots cro^s par 
mutilation et addition de lettres ou de syllabes y flgurcnt 
(juelquefoia. On y trouve, par exeraple, le pretendu inot 
AncOTic, tradtiit par btnumhiag, soporihque: c'est cvi- 
demment une partie du mot nareatiQut, &rit autrefoia 
narcotic ; et do celte location un narcnlic una oreille mal 
exercee, oa tout ii fait Britannique, aura fait celle-ci— •«» 
armlic." — Preface, p. XTL 

The edition of Cotgrave's Dictiouar^ iixssasasA. 




[2"* S. X JULt 7. '60. 

hy the editors of the Complemettt was that of 
1632: Adam Islip, Londuu. I feel persuaded 
that tbaic dictionaries that bavc attached to the 
word the meaning " to fondle, dandlu," &e. havo 
been guided by the aulbority of Cotgravo ; and 
that he himself, or whoever first iiffixcd that 
meaning, was led, bjr some oversitrht, to confound 
ctHfveliiier with a remarkably similar word, dode- 
liner, which really docs mean " to fondle," &c., 
and which is thus given in the Complement : — 

" DohKt.iNKR, T. a ( V. lung.) Bercer, Carcsser, Remaer 
doacemcnt. II s'emploie encora aojourd'hui dans le Ian- 
gage fiimilier." 

John Wuxiavs. 

Amo'8 Court. 

(2*" S. ix. 159.) 
The anecdotes of Dr, Pwr remind me of ano- 
ther, the entire truth of which is, I imagine, 
somewhat questionable. It is contained in the 
" dedication " to a little volume entitled The Social 
Pipe, or Gentleman a Recreation, 12mo. 182C. 
The Doctor, it seems, was on a time invited to 
dinner by " a gentleman, whose wife, a fine lady, 
had on intense aversion to smoking." After din- 
ner the party adjourned to the drawing-room, 
where " tiie Doctor buguu to feel certain cravings 
for the stimulating fumes of his beloved pipe." 
The ladv of the house, on the alert, caught the 
half whispered word, niid at onec interposed her 
veto. The doctor remonstrated: "No pipe, no 
Parr," was his well-known motto. "Why not, 
Madame f " said he, " I have smoked a pipe with 
my king, and it surely can be no offence, or dis- 
grace to a subject to permit me the like indul- 
gence." The lady, however, was inexorable, on 
which the following colloquy ensued : — 

Doctor. "Madam!" 

WiFT. "Sirl" 

DocTOH. " Madam, yon are " 

WiFB. " I hope yoa will not express any rudenen, 

Doctor. (Rauing his voice) •* Madam, yoa ar* — the 
grealat Tobaeco-ttopper in all Enyland '. " 

This sally caused a loud laugh, it is said, and 
f * dis<ioncerted the fair and ol)cse counterblastcr, hut 
did not procure for the doctor his coveted luxury. 

Now is it on record that Tarr did actually on 
any occamon enioy the honour of "taking tobac- 
co " with the kmg P He was on intimate terms 
with that amateur of pipes and pipeing, the Duke 
of Sussex, as the letters from his royal highness 
to Parr, preserved br Dr. Johnstone, vouch, and 
bad doubtless smoked many a pipe in his company 
»t Kensington Palace. 

The anecdote of Sir Isaac Newton and the to- 
bacco-stopper is still bgtter known. See Facetite 
Cantabrigienset, 3rd ed. p. 39J. 

This was not the only occasion, it may be ima- 

gined, on which the doctor snflered from the miso- 
capnic prejudices of a fair hostess. lie writes — 

" In 1774, I. by invitation, visited William Samner, 
E*q., brother of Dr. Rottert Sumner, at Ilatcblanilx. I 
preaubcij at tlie parish church ofllatchltiids, und lel'l the 

place rather sud<lenl3', becanse vrouUI out j)*nnit 

inc to smoke. Thougli often anked, I never would go 
again. She had played the same trick to her liusbaoJ'a 
brother. Dr. Sumner, in Ureal George Street, Westmin- 
ster. The Doctor resisted and prevailed," &c. 

But Parr had his revenge in another waj', — as 
he tells us with much naivete : — 

"She died while I lived at Colohetter, and, it the re- 
quest of bcr husband, I wrote the cpilaph for her, but 
urithoul much praiMeS* — 2iIcmoir» by Jolitistone, p. 77t. 

Parr it appears, as he advanced in life, became 
less tyrannical and exacting. I quote the follow- 
ing from an article entitled "Parr in hia latter 
Years," in the New Motilhly Magazine : — 

"After dinner he took three or four glassai of wiaa, 
and then askeii for his pipe, withdrawing from the table 
to the chimney, that be might let the smoke pass up, 
which 1 discovered to be his common cnstoin. There he to puff away in clouds, engrossing by far the largest 
share of the conversation, which all wera conteuted to ra- 
sign to hini." — Vol. xvi. p. 481. 

In Parr's copy of the Hymnu* Tabaci of Thoriaa 
he had written "See Philips'g Latin Verses on 
Tobacco." Did he allude to the Ode to Henry 
St- John, commencing — 

" Oh ! qui redsB fiaibun Indicts 
Bcnignus Uerbie, dua mihi divitam 
Ilaurire saccam, et suaveolentea 
Saspe tubia iterare fumoa," &c ? 

I do not know what else in Latin Philips has 
written on the subject. Tlic latter was ao Ibnd of 
tobacco, that, as one of his biographers hos ob- 
served, he has managed to introduce au eulogy 
upon it in every one of bis pieces, except BUti- 
heim. In his Cyder, in apostrophising Experience, 
he goes rather out of his way to introduce his 
favourite subject : — 

" To her we owe 
The Indian weed, unknown to ancient limea. 
Nature's choice gift, whose acrimonious fume 
Extracts superfluous juices, and refines 
The blood distempered, from its noxious salts; 
Friend to the spirits, which with vapours bland 
It geutty mitigates; companion fit 
Of pleasantry and wine ; nor to the bards 
Unfriendly, whea they to llie vocal shell 
Warble melodious tbair wcU-Iaboorad songa." 

Book L line 335. 

The imitation of the same author by Isaac 
Hawkins Browne will be remembered — 
" Little tube of mighty power," 8:c. 

in the Cambridge Tart, and published separately, 
8vo. 1744. 

One more anecdote fix)ni the New AfojUhly itfb- 
gttzine : — 

" The Doctor's pipe* war* generally preients from hla 
friends. Mr. Peregrine Deallry, In particnUr, used o(t«n 



8-* & X JuLi 7. -ee.] 






U> aupply him. Oocv ba received «t Ilitton a box of 
T«ry lianrlsorae pipM, wUk a plume of feathcrii in the 
btiwl, which, to tiie Iwst of rar recollection, were a present 
from the Prinfe of Wales, "fhe Earl of Abing'lon gave 
bim asujierb i'urliiab pipe. Trivioi a» the circumatanec 
may be tliuo^bt, I will just mention that the Doctor, 
when smoking, always helil Lbe bowk of the pips with 
bis linger and tiiainb, although the beat would not have 
been endurahle by a person unaccuitomed to that habit." 
— A'ew Monthly Magazine, Sep. 18UU. 

Parr and his pipe will go down to posterity to- 
gether ; so tborougbiy is the instrumeDt and the 
babit associated with the man. In a rou^b mezzo 
caricature, intended as a "Prc-fuce to Bellendc- 
Diu,^ the doctor is iubaling a pipe of portentous 
length, while with clenched fist ana beetling 
brows, he puffs out a volume of smoke, nmid^t 
which we read the minacious legend " Damn rhy 
8«u>v." Dawe also, in bis very characteristic 
portrait of the doctor, has placed one of hia 
favourite "churchwardens" in his hand. Thus 
Frank Vonderminc, a Dutch artist who resided in 
London, and who it is said painted with a pipe in 
bis mouth, bidding objecting sitters go to another 
artist, has perpetuated Liniiicif in a mezzotint 
print from bis own portrait entitled "The 
Dinokcr" {Wine and WcuniUs, vol. ii. p. 14,). 

There would to be a stron;» affinity be- 
tween theology and tobacco. Pope has 

" History hw pot. Theology her pipe; " 
and Swifl includes "best Virginia" araon^ those 
things which, in the possession of his CoiuUnj 

" Are bettor than the Bishop's bleiaing." 

Indeed smoking baa ever been the habit of stu- 
dious literary men, especially those of the critical 
gemu. Aldrich, Hobbes, and Newton arc known 
to have been most inveterate smokers ; Boxhor- 
nius, the learned professor of Leyden, was »o 
addicted to the habit, that he Lad a hole cut in 
the rim of hb hat to support his pipe while study- 
ing and writing ; and Porson is reported by 
Ro;:ers (^Table TalA) to have said that "when 
BBoking began to go out of fashion, learning be- 
•m to to ont of fashion too." The extent of 
Fmt's addiction to the habit was thought worthy 
of note among his German brethren even. Wolf 
S3TS of him that, "Er soil es monchmull an eineiii 
Abend, bis zu 20 Pfeifen gebracht baben " (Z,i^/. 
AtuL iv. £63.); but Dr. Johnstone thinks this an 
exaggeration, and that a fourth part of the quan- 
tity wotild be nearer the mark. An interesting 
letterfromDr. J.Uri,to make a provision for whose 
old age Parr had exerted himself, is preserved. 
Writing to Dr. Kelt, and alluding to a promised 
yisit of Parr, be aays : — 

" Promlserat se seqventi die ante meridiem vebtanim. 
Jtai^ue expeetana cum lapidea nif^ros super foco large 
npoaai: tubos Candidas, quibus fumus tabaci ezbauriri 
•olM, pnsparavi ; sellua, remola paalulum mcnso, ad 
y;Q«*n adtnovi ; at, ebeu I noa contigit luihi ipsum vi- 
mre," &c. 

Dr. Johnstone telLi us that — 
"Wheoaver he (Dr. Parr) came to Birmingham U« 
never failed to smoke bis pipe with Mr. Belcher." 

This was a highly respectable bookseller in the 
Bull-Ring iu that town. 

I would also ask the object of tlie custom al- 
luded to in the following extract from the ZeMerwJ 
ofCharlet Lamb by Talfourd ? — 

"He (Lamb) had loved smoking 'not wisely but too 
well,' for he had been content to use the coarsest varietiet 
of the 'great herb.' When Dr. Parr, who took only the 
finest tobacco, ined to half JUL hit pipe with lalt, and 
smoked with u philmophic calmness, .ww Lumh smoking 
the strongest preparations of the weed, paftinj; out smok*^ 
like some ferocious enchanter, he gently laid down hK 
pipe and asked him * bow be had acquired his power a 
smoking at such a ratep' Lamb answered, 'I toiled' 
after it, Sir, as some men toll alter virtue." — Part 3^ 
p. 88. 

I conclude this gossiping paper, which might 
serve to liglit a pipe «t^ith, bat for the more valu- 
able matter which will save it fxom combustion, 
with another ipiotatioii ; — 

" 1 am not convinced that this faabit waa prroductive «Ci^ 
bad conaequence to bis health, tbo' it was often inc 
vonient to his friends. Tobacco has been called tbo ano* 
dj-ne of poverty, and the opium of the western world ^ 
To Purr, whose nerves were extremely irritable, and aen"" 
sibility immoderate, perhaps it was a necessary anodyne. 

" It culmed his agitated spirits ; it aasisled bis private 
mminalions; it was bis companion in anxiety; it waa 
his helpmate in composition. Have we not all seen bim 
darkening the air with its clouds when his mind was 
Inbourini; wild (hooplit? Hi» pipo was so necessary Tat 
his comfort that he always left the table for it, and t" 
botise of the person ho visited, if it was not prepared 
His pipe produced another inconvenience at table : at on 
time be selected the youngest ladv to liaht it after th.^^ 
cloth was drawn, and she was obliged To stand withia 
bis arms, and to pcrfurm variotis ludicrous ceremonies. 
Latterly hia liest friends persuaded him to decline this 
practice." — JUtmoirt of Parr, by Dr. Johnstone, p. 815. 





In "N. & Q." (a""" S. ix. 403.) Abbda aoki 
whom this note refers, and what ore the ground»l 
for the story P The firstquestion is eaaily answcTHiiL 
The Kev. Sir Harry Trelnwny, Bart, of Tre- 
lawny, Cornwall, grandfather of the Radical mem- 
ber for Tavistock. That he become a Roman 
Catholic is, I firmly believe, the single grain o£ 
truth in the marvellous story. But hod he atan]^ 
period r-f his liff been n disappointed candidate for 
the "Pnpal Diudcin," und in despair buried him- 
self in L« Trappe, it is utterly impoKiible Mr. 
Feilowcs's journey could have had any reference 
to such an event .... Sir H. T., who was for 
about ten years vicar of Egloshayle, was non-re- 
sident. A curate attended to the duties of the 
parish, but the vicar occasionally -visited it from 




li^ S. X. Jolt 7. W. 

Trelawny ; and I find on inquiry that he " cele- 
brated Lis Inst marriage" tliere "on the 9th April, 
1804." The late Mr. Davies Gilbert (Hist, of 
Corn^ vol. iii. p. 300, 1.) says "he resigned his 
living on becoming a Kotuan Catholic." But 
another county historian, C. S. Gilbert, more cor- 
rectly, and probably receiving his information 
from Sir H. T. himself, has given the true reason 
for the resignation — tliat Sir II. T. would not 
undertake to comply with the Act (then passed) 
" obiiginK the clergy to residence." " The resig- 
nation," he adds, " was matter of deep regret to 
Sir II. T." Though he resigned in 1 804, he was 
still n clerjrynian of our church in 1824, aud he 
oould not therefore have been a candidate for the 
Fapol chair previous to Mr. Fellowes' journey in 
1817, or ID Joed for many years after it, for the 
very good rcAson that the nest vacancy did not 
occur until 1823, on the death of Pius VII., who 
had been elected in 1800. A glauce at Mr. Fel- 
lowes* book, in which biii one cfiapter'n devoted to 
La Trappe, will suffice to show that the only per* 
son he there conversed wiiL, " aj>|)eared a youiig 
man about five-and-twctity." Unluckily for the 
note- writer Sir U. T. was then above sixty years 
of nee. 

I have not been able to ascertain in what year 
he became a liuman Catholic, but there is ample 
evidence that this last of many changes in his 
creed occurred very late in bia life. In 1816 he 
had not "left the church of his Fathers," for 
Polwhele (Hist, of Corn., vol. v. new ed. 181G), 
after noticing that Sir 11. T. had "progressed 
through every stage of theological opinion," be- 
coming in turn«" Methodist," "Calvinisiical Dissen- 
ter," "Socinian," and "clergyman," adds: "about 
two months previous to ihiii his lust gradation he 
publiahcd a letter on the sin of aubserinlloni" 
Eij^ht years later he had not " lefl the churcii of his 
Fathers." Drew, ia the 2nd vol. of his and Hitehins* 
Sitt. rif Cornwall (1824), referring to some ob- 
servations in the Ist vol. (for which Hitehinsi, 
■whose unfinished work he completed, was probably 
responsible) respecting the " versatility of the 
baronet's theological opinions," regrets they 
should not have been qualified by remarking " that 
stability of sentiment which has accompanied a 
[matttrity of judgment resulting from inquiry, and 
^rendered permanent by conscientious investiga- 
ton. More tbanyo>r(y-jtM: (43 ?) years have elapsed 
since this pious and worthy country gentle- 
man has enjoyed tlie honour of being u clergyman 
of the Church of England," &c. Drew also calls 
■ him the resident proprietor of Trelawn (which 
[ Drew considered the iiroper name of the place). 
In 1824, then, Sir II. T. had changed neither his 
faith nor bis residence. Drew, a native of St. 
Austell, within twenty miles of Trelawny, could 
not have been ignorant cf Sir U. T.'s where- 
abouts, and being a zealous Methodist would not 

have been indifferent to a change to Romanism. 
Some years later Drew must have lamented lus 
mistaken notion of the baronet's "stability of sen- 

Lady Trelawny died in Nov. 1822. By the 
way, how absurd is the note-writer's fancy that 
a married man could have been a candidate for 
the " Papal diadem ! " As Pius VII. died in Aug. 
1823, when Drew's book was probably going to 
(uess, Sir II. T.'s change of religion, if it imme- 
diately followed bis wife's death, must have been 
known to Drew, or at any rate would have been 
too recent to have allowed him to become a can- 
didate. Before his own death, in Feb. 1834, there 
were, however, two vacancies in the Papal chair : 
one in 1829, the other in 1831, and it is certainly 
possible that so cccentTlc a person as the baronet 
may have aspired to the Popedom ; but if he did, 
his friends never heard of it. 

Was there then no story respecting him which 
the heated imagination of the note-writer may 
have magnified? I can give you one which owed 
its origin to a very trifling circumstance. After 
the baronet had fi.\ed his residence in Ituly, and 
but a very few years before his death, he applied 
to the (then) vicar of Pelyntfor a certificate of the 
death and burial of his lady. Presently, I am in- 
formed, there arose in the neighbourhood a 
•' general impression that he was endeavouringto 
obtain the dignity of a cardinal." Mr. Davies 
Gilbert, however, who was a diligent collec- 
tor of Cornish gossip, could never have heard 
of this, or he would certainly have printed it, as 
lie has another rumour respecting Sir 11. T., who, 
" it it said, received the nomiuiil honour from the 
Holy See of being appointed a bishon in ])artibua 
infidelium." That Mr. D. G. would not have 
missed recording whatever he picked up may be 
judged from his description of the funeral cere- 
monies at Trelawny the year after the baronet's 

I cannot discover the way in which the story 
that he buried himself in La Trappe could have 
originated. I am |>ositively informed that the 
baronet's surviving acquaintances are "perfectly 
convinced he never was a Trappiat." If the obitu- 
ary notice in the Gent's Afag. for June, 1834, cor- 
rectly states that a " daughter was with him to the 
last," it is certain he could never have been, even 
for a short period, the inmate of a Trappist mo- 

It may be thought I have occupied too much of 
jour space in the refutation of an idle story, al- 
though I have, in doing so, been led to give some 
notice of an eccentric, but in some respects esti- 
mable and highly-gifted individual, xou may, 
however, consider it not undesirable to mark with 
reprobation the prevailing tendency to render 
secondhand books more attractive by connecting 
them with stories as absurd and unfounded as that 







of the "Three Blnck C'lowg." In sarin^ this I 
Uo not mean to disparngc Mr. Fellowes' book, which 
many yeiirs ago 1 rend wilh interest, and which 
must hnve been very popular in its day, ns tlie 
first edition was published in 1818, and the fourth 
(now before me) in 1»23. U. P. 


(2"^ S. ix. 438.) 

The possible duration of life in nny living crea- 
ture is not merely a curiou.", but an iinportant 
problem, and in relation to man especially, ba» 
engaged the attention of countless philosopher!), 
down to Walker of the Original, who was satisfied 
that men might prolong their c.xbtenee indefi- 
nitely ; while Goethe, by another proeess, came to 
the conclusion that nobody died till he himself 
■wiJ]e<J il. Upon cither of these principles wc may 
imagine the long lists of old-old people which have 
apjMjared in your pages, probable. But some way 
or other, a stern inquirer into evidence, one who 
wants proofs, is always doomed to disappointment, 
and without being quite positive, I have very 
serious doubts whether there is an instrtnce of 
any human being having completed his hundredth 
jeer in modern times. 

It is singular enough that most of the cente- 
narians recorded bilUerto have been Irish, Scotcli, 
or Negroes ; lUways in the lower classes of society, 
and where a register of birth is hardly to be looked 
for; and yet, without lliif, the evidence breaks 
down at once. The nobility and gentry, where 
these matters are more carefully watched, don't 
afford a single instance; not a case occurs in tbe 
insurance olhcc registers, though these include a 
more miscellaneous list, and, « pri<)re, we might 
suppose more likely to embrace some long-lived 
individuals. According to M. S. It. (2"^ S. ix. 
438.) no less than four persons who were at the 
battle of Sbirrell" Muir reached the ago of 100, 
111, 111, and V24 respectively; but we want the 
birth-registers and the idenllQcatlou of tbe par- 

May I hint to your correspondents that in these 
matters neither assertions, nor even convictions, 
are of any avail ; and that u\l such lists show only 
time wasted, and I may say, Mr. £ditor, your 
Taluable paper and ink thrown away, and your 
Btiil more valuable space occui>icd with matter of 
no possible use to any one ? Take the first name 
in M. S. R.'s roll, John Effingham ; he must have 
been born in 1613; was made corporal at the 
battle of the Boyne when 77 — rather slow pro- 
motion — was wounded at Blenheim when 91, 
and got his discharge in the reign of George 1 , 
yeiir not stated ; but if on the day of his accession, 
at the age of lul. Now I am not going to deny 
th« possilMlity of all or any of these statements ; 

but surely I should want some better evidence 
than the Public Advertiser of Feb. 18, 1757, in 
which month he is said to have died. 

We now and then find in the obituaries of our 
periodicals notices of deaths at or over 100 ; and 
1 am sure that your correspondents who might 
have a chance of really sifUng these statements 
would be conferring a benefit upon your readers 
by giving them the result of n detailed and trust- 
worthy e.xnmination. I think such nn one is 
noticed in the Genllemcm'i Mag. for this month, 
as occurring in Cornwall ; and a person living in 
the neighbourhood would find the investigation 
both curious and instructive. It must, however, 
be borne in mind that the child has been mistaken 
for the parent, and that two children have been 
named alike — the elder dying and the younger 
taking the additional years, and getting the credit 
of the prior register. J. It. M. D. 

Derivation ot Shaksi-ere (2°* S. ix. 459,) — 
Mn. Ciiarnock's derivation of Shokspere from 
Sigiiibert might be a little amended. Ihe ending 
ber, per, in pcTsonal names is not a corruption of 
berl or perl, illustrious, but, according to the 
unanimous opinion of the German philulogists, is 
from hero, pero, bear ; and there is in fiict an O. 
G. name Sigipero (see Fiirstemann's AlliL'ut.iche» 
Namenhich). We do not Bud the name Sigii'pero, 
but as Kieix (which is a Gothic form) appears in 
many of tne same compounds as si^, e. g. Sigibort 
and Sicisbert, Sigifrcd and Sigisfred, Sigimar 
and Sigismar, Sigimund and Sigismiind, we should 
be warranted in assuming a name Sigispcr ; and 
03 the High Germ, form sic for sig runs through 
the whole group, we should have the name Sicii- 

Now though the change of Sicisper into Shak* , 
spere would scarcely be justified on etymological' 
principles, it might be accounted for by the con- 
tinual inclination to twist names into something 
like a meaning. 

But a formidable opponent to Ma. Ciiabnock's 
theory advances from the ranks of the London 
Directory, in the form of a Mr, Shakeshafi. lie 
brandishes his weapon, and prepares to do battle 
for the ancient theory. I think that Mb. Chab- 
NOCK. must sky this champion before he can esta- 
blish his new regime. Robekt Fkbouso5. 

Pencil Whiting (S"" S. is. 403.) — S. B. in- 
quires when black-lead or other such like material 
was first used for writing? Martial, in, the Four- 
teenth Book of his Epigrams, which contains in- 
scriptions to accompany the apophorela, which it 
was customary to present to guests at bant^uets, 
suggests as one suitable for the gift of an ivory 
tablet, — 

" Laneuida ne trUtes obicareDt lamina cer^ 

iWjro tibi niveum Kteropinqattfawr"— ^V-^' 




C5»* S. X. JoLY 7. %0. 

And for a tablet of parchment the fotlowing ; — 

"Esse pot* penw, licet hiec m«mbrina vocetor: 
Dfleliii, rjttolia terlpla novart voles."— fb. 7. 

Here the use of a substance capable of making a 
Llaok murk on ivory or parchment, niiil »iia- 
ceptiUc of being erased at pl«?a«ure, would seem 
to jKJJiit to blttck-load. J. Emekson Tesnijnt. 

DEsoRrrrivK Cataloobe (S"" S. bt. 403.) — 
I doubt much whether any book nna ever pub- 
lished which would aid G.H. K. in this respect ; 
as, BO far as tUscriftiion is concerned, one library is 
no jniide for aiiotlier, but each must be taketi en- 
tirely per te. If G. H. K. means a clattijied cata- 
logue, notliinjr will serve bis purpose better than 
the IJbv. 1'. H- Home's Outlines for the Classiji- 
cafion itf a Library mbmitled to the Connideralion 
of the IVitttret of the British Muaenm, 162^, 4to. 

G. M. G. 
Library discovkked at Wu.i-scot Glebe- 
HoosB (*i"*S.ix.5110— As editor of the Southern 
Times, I really think I have a right, to complain 
of the supercilious tone of Mb. J, G. Nichols in 
questioning its authority for the announcement 
ofasiiiijile fact. As an occasiona] contributor to 
" N. & Q." (ihougb under a nom de plume) there 
would be as much proLability of sueu a statement 
finding its way to me as soon as to any other 
journalist. Besides, I can probably oflcr Mb. 
Kjciiow a better authority in my principal paper, 
the Dorset County Chronicle, which, it is well 
known, is constantly in cominuuic-ntiun with the 
dignified and other clergy on similar subjects; 
and 1 have no doubt that it was from the Dorset 
\ County Chronicle that the paragi-ai)h in queilion 
found its way into the Southern Times. As for 
J the truth of it, your corresptrndent has a far more 

I obvious test open to him tlian callin'; in nuestion 
the authenticity of a newspaper paragrnph going 
the rounds, and that is, by addressing himself to 
the incumbent of Willscot for the Catalogue he de- 
. sires of the books recovered. What puzzles me 
most in Mr. Niciioi.s is, that he denies the minor 

Sropodtion, yet labours to establish the major, — 
enics that books have been discovered at Wills- 
cot because the authority is no better than that 
I of the Southern Timei, but proves conclusively 
:■ nevertheless that such tilings are as books in 
) bricked- up closets, and are most wonderful I 
' Sholto MACDtrrr. 

( In reference to the paragraph in •' N. & Q." 

(2"* S. ix. 611.) relative to the library found in 
Oxfordshire, I may inform thee that on first seeing 
the i>aragTaph in a local paper, I immediately 
wrote to the clergyman of the place, who politely 
informed uie that no such library has been found, 
, and no such person as therein niimetl is known in 
I his parish. I therefore presume the whole i* a 
m hoax. Jakbs Dix. 

W GmareacT Jdojtat, Headiaglev, Lfodg. 

The Gou> Ants or Herodotus (2"* S. ix. 
443.) — Humboldt says as follows (Bohu's edition 
of Cosmos, vol. V. p. 475.) : — 

■* I WAS the more astonUbed at finding; at Capula and 
Paxcairo, and especiallr nearTariupuodaro, all tile ant- 
hills Ailed with beautifully shininf; grains of obsidian 
and sanidine. This was in the month of September. ISiOS. 
.... 1 was amazed that soch small insfets should be 
ablo to drag the minerali to aucb a diataoce. It haa 
given mo i;reac pleasure to find that an active iavesti- 
gatnr, M. .lules Slarcoa, has observed something exactly 
similar. 'Tlier« exlats,' he oavK, *on the high plateaux 
of the Kockj Mountains, and particularly in the neigh- 
bourhood of Fort Defiance (to the west of'Mount Taylor), 
a species of ant which, instead of using fragmentu of 
wood and vegetable remains for the purpoM of building 
its dwelling, employs only small stones of the sise of a 
grain of maize. Its instinct leads it to sel«ict the most 
brilliant fragments of xtonca; and thus the ant-hill ia 
frequently tilled with magnilirent transparent garnets, 
and very pure grains of quartz.' (Julea Marcou, JU*Hmi 
Esplieati/d'une Cartt Cfogn.dts Etats Unit, 1855, p. S.)' 

A like desire for the accumulation of brilliantly- 
coloured or shining substances leads the bower 
bird to decorate his play-ground with glass, sheila, 
and brightly-coloured feathers ; and teaches crows 
and magpies the very inconvenient habit of ap- 
propriating coins and small articles of plate. I 
nave myself often seen the great water- beetle 
{Dytiscus inarginalis), while in confinement, select 
from the shingle at the bottom of his prison grains 
of red cornelian and fragments of pink carbonate 
of lime, and carry them about for a long time. 
This was not the habit of u single individual ; I 
have seen many of these insects do the some. 
Whether the lustre of the objects had cl-.arms for 
them, or whether they mistook the stones for bits 
of raw meat or worms, I cannot say : certainly 
they bit them savagely with their mandibles, re- 
minding me rather amusingly of "The Viper and 
the File." W. J. Beknuaro Sairrn. 

Mural Burial {2** S. ix. 425.) — The reasons 
which suggested that the walls of the church were 
tolerated depositories for the dead has for some 
time been a subject of discussion in " N. & ti.»" 
but towards a satisfactory conclusion little, if anj, 
progress has been made. 

The discoveries of bodies there interred have 
been too numerous to require any farther refer- 
ence, either to the forma of the cavities, the places 
in which they arc generally found, or the shape . 
or materials of which the coffins are formed. 

But where interments have been made far more 
injurious to the fabric, and not strictly within the 
walls, a short description of such remnants of 
former mischievous indulgences, happily not com- 
mon, may assist the imjuiry. 

In the churches of South Waltham St. Mary 
and of Boston, both in Norfolk, about eight or 
ten fe«t of the east walls of the chancels have been 
removed to the base of the windows, and arches 
turned to support the superincumbent walla. 



S"« & X. July 7. "SO.] 



£xternjUly, dwarf walls on irhich rest too-fall 
roofi, forming narrow lean-to's, supply the place 
of the walls remored. In Lhe interior the spaces 
enclosed remain open and plain reccsdca, in rear of 
the present communion tablca. 

Beneath these unsightly ailjuncts vaults have 
been erected, to which they serve aa protectiona, 
but the bodies there deposited can only rest in 
port within the churches. There are no vestiges 
indicative of sepulchre, but the iiollow beneath is 
easily detected by the common process of sound- 
ing ; and that they were built subsequently to the 
church may be widiout dilliculty discovered at 
the junction of the walls. 

The position in society of persons who could be 
80 strangely permitted to disfigure and invade the 
most revered parts of the sacred edifice for their 
own imap:ined benefit, is a question certainly 
worthy the attention of antiquaries. 


Hbhbditjirt Alias (2'* S. ix. 344. 413.) — 
Disciples of the " Judicious Hooker" will not need 
to be reminded that his family had the " here- 
ditary alias" of Vowell, or, to write more in- 
telligibly, bore two surnames. 

In Mr. Keble's edition of Hooker's }Vorks there 
ia prefixed to Walton's life of hiiu " The Pedigree 
of Vowell als Hooker of Exeter," from which it 
would appear that hi;i father and other members 
of his fouiily bore these iinnies. 

The groat divine hiai>tolf probably contented 
himself with the name by which he is so well 
known to posterity, but from a Note communt- 
c*led to the editor by the Rev. Dr. Oliver (a 
Roman Catholic clergyman, well known in Exe- 
ter as a local antiquary, concerning whose works 
I Me a Query at p. 404. of the current vol. of 
"N. & Q") we lenrn concerninjj Hooker's uncle 
John that " in early life he used to sij^n himself 
John Vowell aliat Hoker, hut in late years, John 
Hoker a2iVi* Vowell." (Keble, 2ndeil. p. 9.) 

This gentleman was first chambcrluiu of Exeter, 
where his portrait is preserved, In 1568 he was 
elected M.P. for Athenry in the Irish Parliament, 
and he represented Exeter in the English Parlia- 
aient of 1571. 

He is mentioned in Ware's Writers of Ireland 
(book ii. cb, 5.) as " John Hooker or Vowell, a 
Devonshire mitn." See also Prineo's Worthies of 
Devon, 397, 8., for an account of his Works. 

Is this "alius" slill in use? When in E.xetcr 
last year I noticed that the name Ili^okcr is still 
'Common there. Sir Wm. Hooker of Kew is of an 
£xeter family. Jobk RrsTON Gabstik. 


Rtdb r. Drive (2«* S. ix. 826. 394.)— I have been 
wnuaed by the discussion which has been carried 
on as to the propriety of the expression " riding 
in a. carriage." If those who object to it bad 

read the Bible carefully, or even listened to it 
tvhen read in the church, they would scarcely 
have spoken of the phrnse so contemptuously, one 
of them even calling it a vulgaj'istn. I would 
refer them in particular to 2 Kings, ix. 16., 
" So Jehu rode in a chariot " ; and x. 16., 
" So they made him ride in his chariot." Several 
other passages might be quoted from that " well of 
English undefiletl,'' the Authorised Version of the 
Bible, but your readers will probably think these 
sullicient. jSgnescbhs. 

Paul Hitfkrnak (2"'» S. iv. 190. ; ix. 314.) — 
Whether by HifTernan or not, the lines are from 
Seneca, and the ingenious perver^on shows that 
they were not mistranslated in ignorance : — 

" At ille vuUas ignea torqaens face, 
Ucam inter omnes qucurit et s«(]uitur Lichan. 
Complexat aru, ille, trcinebunclainanu, 
Mortem m«tu cansampsil, el paniin aui 
Pwnic ri'Iiquit : dumque trvmebuoJum maau 
Tenuit cadaver, llac msnu, hno, inquit ferar, 
*0 fatal victus? llerculem perimit Licbas. 
Ecce alia dados, Ucrcules p«rimit Licbao. 
Facta inquinentar : list bic aninmas Labor.' 
In lulra missus ferlur, et nubei vago 
Sparg^it cruora : talis ia coclum exsilit 
ArunJo, Getica visa dimissa manu ; 
Aut qaam Cydon excustit: inferius tamen 
Et tela fugient: truucus in poatum cadit. 
In saxB cervix : funus anibobus jac«t." 

Uereulta Oetanu, a. iU. ▼. 808. 

The Italian quotation is from Lotlovico Dolcrs 
translation, 12mo. Venetin, 1.5G0. I do not know 
whether it is inserted for display, or to mislead 
the reader. The following will show that the 
English is taken from the Latin, not the Italian : — 

" Ma egU nel suo volto 

Moslrando ardcut« face, Z 

Fra tutti soluniente 

Si mise a scgoir Lica. 

Ed egli, p'iea di tenui 

Akjlirucciaado gli oltari 

Con la tremente mano, 

Mori per lo spaveato 

Prima cb' avease niorta, 

Tel cbe poco rimose 

Di lui : quaado lo prase," &C. 
•',... nondlmeno il corpo 
Cadde nel mar: e la sua tasta «'l coUo 
Percoue sopra i sassi." — P. 312. b. 

H. B. a 

U. TJ. C!ab. 

Vestilate (2"' S. ix, 44.3. 490.)— Your corre- 
spondents have hardly cxjilained the precise 
reason of the present prevading use of the word 
"ventilate." The Americans some ten years ago 
invaded Mexico, and there first heard the Spanish 
word verUilar, vetttilado, which signifies to discuss, 
examine, sitl thoroughly, and the use of this 
word, with many others, has since then gradually 
crept into the American idiom, and from America 
come over again to us. I speak with some «»;r- 
tainty, as I was m Mexico during Ux* -^VvaW ^ 



[2"<« S. X. JPLT 

the American war there, and subsequently hare 
passed some time in the United States. 

A Tbjlybllbr. 

Cabsival at MiLAir (a-" S. \x. 197. 312. 405.) 
—The authorities quoted by the Rev. Joh.n Wii^ 
UAMS are conclusive of nothing but the opinions 
of modem writers — Slartcne, Baroiiius, Ferraris, 
Benedict XIV^ &c.; whilst we are in searcU, not 
of opinions, but of historical evidence of contem- 
poraries. The question is us to tlie commence- 
ment of Lent, or the Cnrnival (= fnrcwell to 
flesh). I have shown that this commencement 
was identical at Milan and Rome by the testimony 
of St. Ambrose and Gregory the Great in the 
fourth and fifth centuries. It is true there is a 
doubt as to the exact time when the Romish 
church altered the ancient practice by commencing 
it earlier, that if, on Ash Wednesday ; and those 
who have investigated the subject vary in at- 
tributing this novelty to the eighth and ninth 
centuries, a dilliculty arising from the darkness 
spread over this period by the asceiKlency of 
Rome, then encouniging the propagation of idle 
tales in lieu of history and criticism. Tlie ques- 
tion as to which of the days in the six weeks of 
Lent, and how the churches at Rome and I^lilan 
practised fasting, is distinct from the one pro- 
posed. We learn, liowever, from St. Augnstin 
rEp. 8C: [367] ad Casulan; Ep. 11 H [54], ad 
I Januar.), that his mother, being desirous of know- 
ing whether she should fust on Saturdays (as at 
Rome) or not (as .it Milan), be consulted St. 
Ambrose, who said, " When 1 po to Rome I fust 
on the Saturday, as they do at Rome ; when I urn 
here I do not fast ; " which Monica received as 
an oracle from heaven ; and it has since passed 
into a proverb. The leven weeks' feast was never 
in use at Miliin, as the Rev. J. Williams thinks, 
nor in any of the Western churches. Sozomeii 
■ays : — 

_" oi ii itrri yl|<rTno^Mn, if ir KwiArromroirAn «al TOit 
aipif rSfio-i ^^xp' •»•»«■»»" (vii. 10.) 

But Socrates says generally : — 

_" aAAot A< vapa rowrovr, oAAei ir^ tTrri. r^ fopnrc ifiin^iAimv 
KOCTT|F T«r xporor Toi^Tor coAovcrt '* (v. 22.) 

So that it was always called the Forty (quadra- 
gesima), whether consisting of forty hours, three, 
BIX, or seven weeks. T. J. BtCKTOK. 


Vast {2'^ S. ix. 426. 49.5.) — The proper name 
BuUivant I have always looked upon as of Nor- 
inan extraction (though 1 have no good nutiio- 
rities to point to), and as being nothing else than 
« corruption of the words Beletifent, just as Bel- 
lamy seems to be DO other than Bel ami. 


HaintT Cartbell, M.A. (2"^ S. ix. 464.) — 
Besides some of the tracts I have in my possession 

two volumes of MS. sermons by Cantrell, notes 
upon which, if Mb. Cbesweix is collecting upon 
him, mar be of use, and are much nt his service. 
Some of the sermons in these volumes have evi- 
dently done poofi service, some of them having 
been preached fifteen or sixteen, or even more« 
times. On one sermon is this curious note : — 

"This Sermon 1 lent to Mr. Wood wcli he IranscrJI/d 
nnil preacti'd Bt ye Visitstion at >folt., ITor wch favour ho 
forgave mo tlie remainder of wt I owM His uncle Hayes, 
well B3 I remember was 60 shillings." 

A tolerable price to pay in those days for the 
loan of a sermon. Llewrixys:* Jewitt, F.S.A. 

Henry Cantrell was of Emmanuel College, Cam- 
bridge, ij.A. 1704-5, M.A. 1710. lie became vicar 
of S. Alkmund's, Derby, 1712, and was living at 
that town in 1 760. Perhaps some of your corre- 
spondents can furnish the date of his death. 

C. H. & TaoNrsos Cooper. 


SrMTTiNo Papbb (2"* S. ix. 427.) — The art 
above alluded to was discovered by n young man 
named Haldwin, now a dealer in old prints, &e. in 
Great Newport Street. Whether he has tnuglit 
it, or is willing to teach it to others I cannot say. 
Some years ago he not only split a Hank note, but 
papers of much larger si«e. I have heard that he 
even on one occasion experimented successfully 
on a whole sheet of The Times. Q. 

Pdducatios or Bakss (2°* S. \x. 492.) — At 
the Summer Assizes, Oxford, 185G, in Re^- "■ Ben- 
son, Cliifk, reported in the Oxford Herald of .Inly 
12, Baron Aldcrson ascertained from a witness 
that the banns were published at Morning Service, 
after the second lesson. He then said ; — 

" I have very g[reat doubt in my own mind whether 
marriages solemnised when the lunns have been to pul>. 
Ilthed, are valid onder the Act ofPtrliamenC At Murn- 
lag Service the rubric enjoins that the baaiis bo read at 
the Communion, immediately before the sermon, and the 
law bad not altered tliat injunction. When Ibere was 
no Morning Service, then it was provided Ijy the Act 
that at Afternoon or Evening Service the banns should !>• 
published after the second lesson." 

E. M. 

Rcthbrford Familt (2"^ S. ix. 403.) — Some 
years since a claim was preferred to the Scottsh 
Barony of Rutherford, but it was thrown out by 
the Peers for insufficiency, as I understand, of 
evidence on a particular link of the pedigree. 
Unquestionably your correspondent would find a 
genealogical table attached to the case. But if it 
be of any moment to the inquirer, I may mention 
that in mv library I have a somewhat curious col- 
lection relative to most persons of the n«me of I 
Rutherford in the south of Scotland, consisting of 
printed papers during the earlier part of the last 
century. J. M. 

Ji'S.X. Jutr 7.'e0.] 



PStTBMERGED Bells (1* S. X. 20-1.; xi. 176. 
274.) — Tlic traditions of submerged bella, and, 
in foct, of submerged churches, cloisters, and even 

»cities« is by no means an uncommon one. Might 
not the musical noises, vhlcb, at stated times, arc 
said to be heard over the places where the ill- 
fated buildings and doomed towns went down, in 
tome instances proceed from those musical in- 
Itabitants of the Avater, whether oysters or fishes, 
I whose vibrating aeolus-harp-tones were observed 
H liy Tenneut in the lake near Batticaloa in Ceylon ? 
^Plf we accept of this hypothesis, many spectrnl 
bell- and organ-sounds come within the limits of 
probftbility. Put, that the supposed animal by 
'preference fixes upon under-waler-ruins as most 
congenial to its wants and tastes— that it is a kind 
^■of antiquarian G&h — and the hypothesis almost 
^Kl>ecomes a certainty. I will not uint at the pos- 
^" sibility of legends as the above having originated 
in such n crustaceous or testaceous music as that 
described by Tennent, because a supposition like 
this would completely spoil the poetry of my late 
infcreDce. J. U. van Lessep, 

Z«yit, DMT Utrecht 

The Judas Trkb, Cercin siliquastrum (i""* S. 
ix. 386. 414. 443.) — In reply to your correspon- 
•dent D.'s Query on this subject, I beg to inform 
him that, during my residence in Somersetshire 
some fifteen years ago, a very fine Judos tree 
covered the whole south gnble of the rectory 
cottage at West Monkton, near Taunton, it 
flowered in great profusion every spring, and the 
seeds, I think, geuernlly ripened ; that tlicy did so 
occasionally I am certain, as I raised some plants 
from seed. The colour of the blossom corre- 
sponded with J. P. O.'s description, being a kind 
of purplish pink. I do not remember ever having 
seen, either in this country, in Italy, or in the 
£n9t, a tree of this kind bearing scarlet flowers. 
The Cercis CaruuUnsit, a kindred plant, may 
perbnps do so ; but as I am not acquainted with 
It I cannot say. 

I have somewhere seen it stated that the Eng- 
lish specific name arises from a traditi<m that it 
■was a tree of this kind on which the traitor Judas 
hanged himself; and as it is a very common tree 
in the Levant, this may be the case. C. M. O. 

Tub Rev. John Huttor (S""* S. ix. 444.) was 
educated at Sedbergh School, and became fellow 
and tutor of S. John's College, Cambridge; B.A. 
J763; M.A. 17<;6; Moderator and Taxor, 17(39; 

D. 1774. His family had property at Burton in 
Kendal, co. Westmorland, and he was nominated 
vicar before 1777 (see Nicobon and Burn, vol i. 
,p_. aac.). He died at Burton in August, 180G, ast. 

I am not aware of the title, size, &c. of his 
Tour to the Cares in the Wett Ridine of Yorkshire, 

I have in my possession a MS. " Treatise on the 


EtjTnology of Words in the English Langiugc 
derived from that of the Greek, divided into several 
Classes according to their distinguishing Circum- 
stances," by John Button, B.D. 4to. 

He was the friend nn<l correspondent of the 
Rev. Thomas Wilson, B.D., rector of Claughton, 
and Head Master of Clitheroc School, whose Life 
and Miscellanies have been recently edited for the 
Chetbam Society; but the editor did not consider 
Mr. Iluttons Icttei-s of sufficient interest to merit 
printing. F. It. R. 

Colonel Hooks (2»* 8. ix. 466.) — Tour cor- 
respondent N. H. T., alluding to the signature 
" Iloocke " in the Secret Hiafort/, does not suffi- 
ciently make allowance for errors of the press so 
numerous at the period (1760) when that work 
was printed. The title of the book is The Secret 
History of Colonel Ilookc's Negociatioiu, Sj-c, and 
although the signature to the letter to M. Chjimil- 
lard is printed " Iloocke," yet, in the body of the 
work tue name is spelt both ways, and in pages 
69. 84, 83. 90. 95, and 96. the proper mode of 
spelling is adopted — " Hooke." It appears that 
this work was originally published m French, 
and the translator, whoever he was, says : — 

"Tho extreme incorrectoess of the French edition 
whicli we were obliged to make use of, particularly with 
regard to the proper names, will, we are persuaded, give 
this IransJAlion a great adranlago over the orij^nal in 
the opiDion of every reader, because we liave attemjiled to 
rectify tliosc mistakes, and we tioiw wo ba^'s succeeded 
tolerably well in lite aLlcnii>t." 

I have been unable to meet with tbts French 
edition. In the MS. work in the British Museum, 
giving an account of Hookc's negotiations in 1705, 
Re always signs liis name " Hookc," and the work 
appears to have been revised by himself. 

The Roman Historian also signed bis surname 
only, — a common custom mnon^ the beads of old 
families during the hist and preceding century. 

Noel Hooxb Robiksox. 

Bbitain 1116 n.c. (2°* S. ix. 494.) — Thanks to 
Mr. BtiCKTost for his Note ; it tends to an eluci- 
dation of my Query. Still, docs it not suggest 
itself that corrylutive evidence of the matter 
quoted fi'oni Capgrave must have formerly ex- 
isted ? It is not probable that such a careful 
and learned man as Capgrave could have inserted 
it in the niitlst of his chronologically lUTatigcd and 
undisputed facts, without a conviction of its truth. 
He does not even bint a doubt of its veracity. 

James Gelbebt. 

John Wtthebs (2"* S. ix. 388.)— The name on 
the tombstone at Battle is Wytbine. A notice of 
his life, with remarks on the difficulty arising from 
a presumed inaccuracy of description in the in- 
scription will bo found in Hastings Putt and 
Present, p. 185., and Appendix, pp. xliii.-iv. His 
will may jiossibly be in tic archives of the Bishoo'a 
Court at Chichester. E,M. 



li** 91 X. JuLT 7. *60. 

Rev. Jon« Walker (2"»« S. ix. 463.)— The Rev. 
John Walker, a minor oanftii of Norwich cathe- 
dral, was vicar of Stoke Holy Cross ; he also held 
the livings of St. .lohn's Timberliill, St, Tetcr per 
Mounlergftte in Norwich, mid the vicarage of 
liawdsey in Sufiblk. He was born at Oxford, 
educated ut Majtdalen Collejrc, and dj-ing in Nor* 
wich, Not. liJ, 1807, a;Ted fifty-three, was buried 
in the catJiedral there. I 

Mr. Walker was the author of n volume of I 
poems, published by his son by Bubscriplion, de- I 
aicat«d to Lord Braybrooke, containing the i 
Georgic of IIesif>d in his " Works and Dajs," | 
"Mirth," a poem. Sonnets, Odes, vrilb various 
smaller pieces of poetry. Tbivjst Ali-cqck.. 

Tombland. Xorwich. 

Gat (2-^ S. viii. 145.) — G. T. Q. asks,— If R. 
Luck, who was some time master of liarostaple 
Echool, and the author of an 8vo. volume o{ Poemt, 
published in 1736, was Gay's "master, his mas- 
ter's son, or bis roaster's successor " ? 

He waa bis master ; and one under 'whom, Dr. 
Johnson states, Gay " was likely to form a taste 
for poetry." — Johnson's Lives, " Gay ;" Lysoos* 
Devoruhire, p. 38. 

Altbou<;h your correspondent says there is " no 
mention of Gay" in Luck's Pofmf, I fancy he 
will find, if he will look carefully through the 
volume again, that Lysons is correct in saying 
(Devonshire, p. 36.) that in one of the poems 
Gay is " alliiaed to as having been the author's 
pupil." W. Geoboe. 



Ledum on the Hitton/ of t/ie Oivrelt of Scoiland J'rom 
the Reformation to the BenUHlioH SclllemeHt. By Ihii Inle 
Vary Rev. John Lee, PriHcipaJoflhc Unnertity of Edin- 
bitrgk, with Notei and Appendicet from the Author'i 
Papert. Edited by hit Sun, the Kev. William Lee. 2 
Y^a. Uvo. (Blackwood.) 

A popular and modem History of the ICstabli^licd Kirk 
of Scotlind has long b«eD wanted, and we anticipate 
therefore a ready welcome for these two readable and 
nieful vohimes from the member* of that communion, if 
not from the "Engliih public, Tbe writer is so thorough 
a Presbytcirian as to be Imrdly able to spare one good 
word for any prelatical opiHuierit ; and even the Sermons 
of the eniditc, imBginntive, and luinlly Lci^jhtoD are dis- 
mined with a line of supercilious critici«in. There is a 
fragmentary and disjointed character about some parts 
of tbeee volumes which mark them as aii uiifmitbed and 

Sosthumous work; while the author's stylo is altogether 
evoid of those graces of diction, or that pictorial grouping 
of persons and incidents, which rvcent btstorical works 
have aliooet accoatomed u* to expect. But having pointed 
oat these defects, w« ought, in justice to the venerable 
and roach nspected author, to atate that they were 
written at a very early period of his life, and without any 
view to publication. Not the leant valuable part of the 
bonV is the Appendix, which contains many curious and 
interesting articles. 

The Luek of Ladi/mede. In Two Tolomes. (Black- 

The readers of Wackicood't 3Tagmine, who remember 
this pictnrcf<]ae stoiy of the times of the Crusaders, will 
be glad to have the opportunitv of reading it in a col- 
lected form — a form wliich will probably introdace tba 
Author to a new circle of admirers. 

Our English Tlome; itt Earlg Hiitory and ProgreM, 
with Note* on the Introductiua of Ihimutit Inventiomt. 
(J. H. Parker.) 

This is an admirable little volume — and if, as the 
author remarks, a closer study of the antlnuities of do' 
inestic life will not lessen, but rather heighten, our ii 
terest in the grander and more imposing episodes of oi 
national history, this sketch of our social progress is wall 
calculated to furnish us with that knowledge in a vory 
amusing and instnictivc form. 

The Dalladt and Songi of I'orjuitirt, traateriled from 
Pnrtile ManuKriptt, Rare Broadtidei, and Scarce Publi- 
eatioHs, with Notet and a Gbittary, JSV J, Davison Incli 
dew, M.A. (Bell & Daldv.) 

The good iieople of Vorkihlre are Indebted to Mi 
Inglcdcw for a voliiuie in which they will And, carefuUi 
edited and noted, the best ballads connected with the^ 
county. They ore of all ages and dales ; and as many of 
them, besides giving utterance to the ]>opiilar feeling, do 
so in the popular dialect, the book bos a double claim to 
the attention of the anti<(uary — being as interesting for 
its illustration of the Yorkshire Dialect, as it is for tha 
specimens it gives of the Yorkshire Muse. 

The ne.^t work to be published by the Chetham Socie^ 
is one which will be snro to engage the attention of 
English scholars who may be fortunate enough to m' 
with it. It is a Bibliog'rapbicat Account ot his owa 
Library, by the Kev. Thomas Corser, of Stand. The drst 
volume is, we believe, nearly ready; and wc congratu 
late the Members of the Chetbam Society ou this wide aui 
wise extension of its objects. 



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t2»< 8. X. Jolt 14. '60. 

the title-leaf of 1637, reprinted it with the list of 
(jhnriicters us then given — now ascribed to Howe! 
— niid nn udvcrtiseiiieat of some of his own publi- 
cations, among which uj'e six phiys. 

It iiii^ihl be unsafe to adopt this conclusion from 
one iiiatancc, but other copies tell the same tale. 
It n-quired more than twice seven years to sell off 
an impression of the Merchant of Vettice. 

I proceed to treat of Macbeth. A List ofplai/x 
ullcred from Shahpeare, iorintd by Sleevens with 
the assistitnce of Kved, was printed in the aano- 
Uted editions of 1700, 1793, 1803, etc. 

In thnt li:tc I find but one edition of Macbeth 
before the year 1675. It is thus described — 

Macbeth, n tragedy, with all tlie alteralioai, amend- 
menti), additions, anil new aunga; ai it is nuw aclcd at 
the Duke's Theatre. Uy Sir William D'Avenaut. 1674. 

Now, I affirm that there is no edition of Mac- 
beth so entitled, and that tJiree altered editions of 
the play were printed at that period — whieh, to 
softtk bibliogmphicalty, are omitted. I transcribe 
iLe titles from copiea in my own possession — 

(1.) Macbeth: a tragedy. Acted at the Dukea-Tfaea- 
Ire. Londoa, printed for If'tUuini Cadtman at the Popet- 
Htad in the New Exchange, in tho Strand. 1673. 4°. 
pp. 4 + C8 = 72. 

(2.)Macl>«tb,atragiedr. \Vithtlllhealttfratluui,ameii<l- 
mentj, ■dditioD&, and new wmgs. At it't note acted at tJie 
Dukas Theatre. Looduu, printed for P. CAetwiit, and are 
to be Mid by most booksellers, 1674. 4°. pp. 4 + C6 = 70. 

(3.) Macbeth, a tragedy : with all the alterations, 
aaicodnicnis, nddittuns, and new aongi, Aa it i* now 
aclcd at the Dukea Theatre. London: nrinlad for A. 
Clark, and are U> be sold by most bookaellers, 1C7JL 4°. 
pp. 4+60 = 64. 

'i be edition reported by Steevena ia atumymoua. 
The name of Sir AVilliam Davenant, to whom 
Downes ascribes the alterations, should therefore 
have been printed within bracltets. It is one of 
the indispensable rules of bibliography. 

The three editions of which 1 have transcribed 
the titles attest the popularity of this splendid 
drama, Among the actors were Mr. Natb. Lee 
and Mr. Betterton. The editions of 1674 contain 
an argument of forty lines — vrhicli I have traced 
to the MIKPO'kozmoj of Peter Heylyn. It is, of 
course, the story of Macbeth — " than which," says 
the ingeniotis author, " for variety of oction, or 
strangeness of event, I never met with any more 
pleasing." — Neither of the three editions contains 
the name of Shaksperc, nor of Sir AVillium Dave- 
nant, and it is due to the public to give some ac- 
count of the contents of each editi<]n. 

The Macbeth of 1673 contains the received 
text of Sbakspere, with three Ij-rical additions. 
At the end of Act II. Scene 2. we have " Sprah, 
titttr, it the deed done *"= 15 lines ; at the end 
of Act II. Scene 3., " Left have a dance upon the 
heath," = 16 lines; and at the end of Act III. 
Scene 5., " Come away Hecate, Hecate, Oh ! come 
^tnay, "=34 lines. 

The other editions contain the above songs, 
with variations; also, ^' Black tpiritt, and icAr'te," 
&c. To read all the alterations and amendme 
is a task beyond the reach of mortal patience ! 

Malone was not aware thut any of the aboi 
specimens of vitch-lore had apjK'arcd before 167 
— nor was Steevens. Others assert that the 11 
of characters to Macbeth was first supplied 
Kowe. Now it i« given in each of the al 

Boswell is pleased to observe that the quarto 
plays subsequent to the folio of 1623 nrc " ad- 
mitted on all hands to be utterly worth iejm." 
hope it will henceforth be admitted that tJiey as 
worth examination. BoLTO.t Couki 


In an article on " Electricity and the Electri 
Telegraph," which appears in the Comhiii Ma^ 
zine for the current month, the writer assumes, 
a res adjudicala, that the name of the inventor 
the electric telegraph was Charles ^larAhall, 
indulges in a somewhat glowing eulogy on Charli 
Marshall's merits. I am not in a poriition abso- 
lutely to affirm that the writer is wrong, but 
having given perhaps more attention to this sub" 
jcct than any other person, I am certaiidy in a 
position to prove that the name of the inventor 
of the electric telegraph is slill involved in mys- 
tery ; ond that we have no more reason to believe 
it was Charles Marshall, than that it was Charles 
Mackenzie, or any other name beginning with the 
letters C. M. 

That the writer of the letter, dated " Renfrew, 
Feb. ], 1753," which appeared in the Scott' Ma- 
gazine of the succeeding month, is really entitled 
to the honour of this important invention, there 
can be no doubt ; and from the fxct that he as^ 
sumes the above letters as his signature, thi 
seems to be a strong probability that they w , 
the initials of his name ; but although that letter 
was first republished in the leading columns of the 
Glasgow Reformers' Gazette, in Nov. 1853, accom- 
panied with some remarks of my own slrougljr 
urging investigation, and although in the iul 
my pursuits have been much directed to ihi 
subjects, I have not been able from that time 
the present to discover any farther clue to 
name of the writer. 

It is true that the letter, having been redtl- 
covered by Sir David Brewster (probnM" I" '-"H, 
sequence of its appcorancc in the J i 

Gazette), and republished at his requu 
Glasgow Commontreatlh of the 'J 1st January, 
elicited, nearly five years oAerwards, a comi 
cation from Mr. Dick, giving what he coniiii 
to be good reasons for believing that C. M. 
none other tbnu a Charles Marshall, who lesid 

f»i»F I 

J« a t Jolt 14. •SO.] 



tOTrards the close of the last century, in Well 

i Meadows, Fnisley. Mr. Dick was led to this con- 
clusinn bj finding that name in a list of sub- 
scribers appended to ft copy of Knox's History of 
the Reformation, which was published at Paisley 
in 1791, and which hnd remained in his family. 
lib; uncle's name was also in the list, and he re- 
collected to have heard bis mother say : — 

" There wa» a verj- clever mm living in Paisley at 
that time, thai bad formerly lived in KcoTrew. He aiked 
my uncle, as tliey were acquainted, lo canrass for xub- 
icnbers in Kenfrew. Tlie said clever man conld light a 
room with coal reek Camoke), and make lightaiojj apeak 
and write upon the wall," &c. 

Mr. Dick plausibly argues that the man who 
solicited his uncle to canvusa for subscribers pro' 
hably subscribed himself; and he says, "he thinks 
it gives some probabilitif to the name being Charles 
Marshall," that he finds this to be the only name 
in the list of about 1000 subscribers which an- 
swers to the initiak C. M. 

Mr. Dick's letter, prior to its publication, was 

forwarded by the editor of the Commonwealth tu 

Sir David Brewster, who seems to have given it a 

Yerj hasty and careless perusal ; for, instead of 

H even doubting the writer's "probabilities," be ac- 

H tually assumes in bis reply, ns/ucAi, that " CImrles 

H Marshall waa a resident in Renfrew about the time 

B when C. M.'§ letter was written ;" that "Charles 

H ]^f&rshall was a clever man" — that " Charles Mar- 

H vhall was known as a person who could make 

H lightning apeak," &c. — and that lie was not only 

H the inrentor of the electric telegraph, but also of 

^Lcool gaa. 

^P Nov all this is pure assumption. Even Air. 

^ Dick Bays nothing of the kind. He merely finds 

Charles Marshall's name in a list of subscribers to 

>a work published at Paisley in 1791, or nearly 
fortv years after C. M.'s letter was written i and 
be haa reason to believe that a certain •' clever 
inan," who was conversant with chemistry and 
I electricity, and who had formerly resided in Ron- . 
H frew, took a special interest in the book. But 
f then even Mr. Dick's inference, that the man ' 
who asked others to canvass for a book would 
probably subscribe himself, is little consistent with 
our modern experience in these inatter.t : for 
where do we find canvassers for publications pat- 

Iting down their own imiues as suuscribers F 
1 mention these things merely to show how 
readily even men of science and acute reasoncrs, 
like Sir David Brewster, may jump at unwar- 
rantable conclusions when they do not take the 
trouble to study their subject attentively ; Hnd 
the article in the CornhiU Afagazine for this 
month is sufficient proof how easily the public are 
jnisled by the nnthnrity of great names m matters 
of scientific faith. 

That the Charles Alarshall who resided at Well 
Bteadows, Paisley, in 1791, was not the C. M. of 

the Scot*' Magasiiie, and therefore not the inven- 
tor of the electric telegraph, I succeeded in nscer- 
taining positively about a year ago, on the bij^hest 
possible authority. Through the kindness of a 
venerable friend in Paisley I traced out the fact 
that a Charles Marshall, who once resided in the 
Well Meadows, had come from Aberdeen ; and 
that a son of his, a clergyman, was still living. 
Discovering the address of this gentleman, I applied 
to him for information : and he stales in his reply 
that he had no doubt his father was the Charles 
Marsha!] who appears in Mr. Dick's list; but 
that he could not be the C. M. of the Senlt' 

About six Or eight months ngo nn anonymous 
letter appeared in the Glasgnw Herald, the writer 
of which pretended to state, on good authority, 
that C. M. was a Charles Morrison — who was boni 
in Greenock, resided for some time in Renfrew, 
and finally emigrated to America. The story was 
plausible ; but, nltUough the writer has been twice 
called upon to produce either his name or autho- 
rities, he has hitherto declined to do so. And 
from certain inconsistencies in his alleged facts, 1 
hnve little or no doubt in my own mind that the 
letter was a deliberate hoax. 

I have merely farther to state, that at the time 
when C. M.'s letter was first disinterred from the 
Scots' Magazine, and republished in the Heformerx 
Qazeile in Nov. 1853, the most diligent search 
was made by the schoolmaster of Renfrew, who is 
also session -clerk, not only in the records of the 
kirk-session, but also among the old people of the 
parish, without a shadow of success : ami, strange 
as it may appear, the name of C. M. remains at 
the present moment as great a mystery as that of 
Junius. Geo. Blair. 



The particulars of the following liLitoricnl instance 
of the supernatural being very little known, we have 
thought it proper to supply the curious readers of 
our publicition with the account in extensa. It is 
e.xtnicted as it appears in a very revereml old 
vulutne now lying before the present, writer, and 
displaying the manuscript annotations of indivi- 
duals long deposited in their finiil lioines, though 
their thoughts on these strange subjects, as 
equally ns ours, stilt live. Tlio old paper and 
type, the rusty ink, the traces of the little acts as 
the render sat ami marked, and more especially 
the vivid notions of forgotten men, over whoau 
graves more thon two centuries and n half of 
grass has waved, and whose ideas, at this moment 
inspected, might have been those of nny living 
man among us yesterday, are striking. What- 
ever may be thought of tlie absolute fact of tU«. 




apparition, the historical vouchers are so cogent, 
the attestations so respectable, and, better than 
all, the vraitemblance, and, as a lawyer might saj, 
the " inner persuasions of the evidence " so per- 
fect, that one might pause before really rejectmg. 
Reappearing in various forms in biographical and 
historical accounts, which have come down to us 
from this period, we have never yet encountered 
the verification as produced very nearly at the 
time at which the appearance is stated to have 
taken place. In the coldest and most reluctant — 
and, we may add, the moat scientific of minds — 
a feeling of awe will intrude as the fanc^ dimly 
.glances at the possibility of such unbelieved-of 
matters : — 

" A Postscript of a Letter of Mr. Douche, concerning the 
appearing of the Shade of Sir George Villiets, Father 
to the first Duke of Baclungbam. 


" Since the writing of the premises, a passage oon- 
ceming an Apparition of Sir George Yilliera giving 
warning of bis son's (the Dake of Bockingharo's) murder 
is come into my mind, which hath been ossared, hy a 
servant of the Dake's, to be a great trnth. Thus it hap- 
pened. Some few days before the Duke's going to 
Portsmouth (where he was stabbed by Felton), the ap- 
pearance of his father, Sir George Yilliera, made itself 
visible to one Parker (formerly his own servant, but t)ien 
servant to the Duke) in bia morning chamber-gown. 
He charged Parker to tell his son that he should decline 
that employment and design he was going upon, or else 
he would certainly be murdered. Parker promised tbe 
apparition to do it, but neglected it. The Duke, making 
preparations for bis expedition, the apparition came 
again to Parker, taxing him very severely for his breach 
of promise, and required him not to delay the acquainting 
his son of the danger he was in. Then Parker the next 
day tells the Duko that his Father's GBost had twice ap- 
peared to him, and had commanded him to give him 
thnt warning. Tho Duke slighted it, and told him he 
was an old doting fool. That night the Apparition came 
to Parker a third time, sa>nng: * Parker, thou hast done 
well in warning my son of his danger. But, though he 
will not yet believe thee. Go to liim once more however, 
and tell him from me by such a token (naming a private 
token), which nobody knows but only he and I, that if 
he will not refuse bis journey such a knife as this is 
(pulling a long knife out from under his gown) will be 
his death.' This messsge Parker also delivered the next 
day to the Duke, who, when be beard tbe private token, 
visibly changed countenance in tbe sight of Parker, and 
inwardly believed that he had it from his Father verita- 
bly. Yet he even now said that his honour was utterly 
at stake, and that he could not go back from what he was 
BO sworn and engaged to, come life, come death ! This real 
visitation Parker, after the Duke's murder, with infinite 
wonder, communicated to his fellow-servant, Henry See- 
ley, who told it to a reverend divine, a neiichbour of 
mine. From whose mouth, indeed, I have it This Henry 
Sceley has not been dead above twenty years: and bis 
habitation, for several years before his death, was at 
North-Currey (North Cray), but three miles from this 

" My friend, the divine aforesaid, was an intimate ac- 
quaintance of this Henry Seeley's, and assures me be was 
a petaon of known truth and integrity. 

"James Douchb." 

" Advertisement concerning this same singular and well- 

attested Narration. 

"This story I cartify that I heard (but a certain other 
name was put for that of Parker) with great assurance 
and with fuller circumstances from a person of honour. 
But I shall content myself to note only what I find in 
a letter of Mr. Timothy Lockett. of tbe same place as 
Mr. James Douche. That this apparition to Mr. Parker 
was, all three times, towards midnight, when he was 
reading in some book or otherwise quietly occupied. 
And he mentions that the Duke's expedition was hasty, 
and for the relief of Bochelle : then sore pressed. The 
rest is much what as Mr. Douche has declared. But I 
will not omit the close of Mr. Lockett's letter. I waa 
confirmed in tbe truth of these extraordinary particular^ 
saith be, by Mr. Henry Seeley, who was then a servant 
with this Mr. Parker to the Duke. And he told me that 
be knew Mr. Parker to b« a religioos and sober person, 
no way given to extravagancies either of speech or 
thought : and that everv particular related was, to liia 
knowledge, of substantial fact, and true." 



In Michaelmas Term in the thirty-fifth year of 
K. Edward I., the Lord Treasurer delivered into 
the Court of Exchequer an instrument made 
under the signatures of two Public Notaries, and 
under the seal of Jam^s Steward of Scotland, con- 
cerning the homage and fealty done to the King 
by the said James. The import of the said in- 
stniment was this. On the 23rd day of October, 
1306, James Steward of Scotland appeared before 
the Bishop of Coventry and Lichfield, Lord Tre«« 
surer, and several other persons hereunder named, 
and did fealty to King Edward I. for all his lands, 
and confirmed his said fealty in all its articles and 
points by his corporal oath, taken upon the con- 
secrated body of Christ, and upon the two holy 
crosses, to wit, the Cross Neyts and the Biake* 
rode, and other holy reliques ; and that the said 
James made a patent letter under Lis seal, de- 
claring the manner and form of this transaction, 
in the following terms : — 

" To all who shall see or hear this letter, Jame$ Steward 
of Scotland wisheth health. Whereas lately, for the 
great trespasses and misdeeds which we had done, is 
divers manners, against our Lige I^rd, the Lord Edward 
by the grace of God King of England, Lord of Iniami, 
and Duke of Aqiataine, contrary to the Homage and . 
Fealty which we did to him, and contrary to our Ligeance, 
we rendred and submitted onrself, fully and wholly, oar 
Body, lands and tenements, and all that we have or caa 
have, to tbe Will of our said Lord, and he hath since, of 
! bis special grace, restored to us our said lands and tens- 
meats which we hold in Scotland. Wherefore, we have 
now done to him Homage and Oath of Fealty anew. We 
being qaitted and delivered, and in our full power, do 
promise loyally and In good Faith, that from hence- 
forth for ever we will be Failhfbl and Loyal to our Lord 
the King of England, and to bis heira Kings of Engltati, 
and will bear to them good Faitb, for Lifc and Membor, 
and for Earthly honour, against all men that may Ut* 




>ui] Jjre; anil wo will nol be against thcni at any time. 

Upon any terms, either In aid or connsel, where any thing 

^may be treated, ordained, compasKd or done, which may 

I turn to their dishonooror dami^, or if we know of it, 

I that Me will liiuiier it with all our power, anfl \re will make 

' it known tn them without delay. And to ihcperformaoce 

I of all thfc thing-!) in all poiut^ we have awum upon the 

I iloc/y «/ God, and upon the //n/y GntptU, and upon the 

1 Omu \eylx, and upon the Blakemde ef Scotland, and 

upon sfreral other Reliqua. And furthermore, to the 

tino holding and kccpinu of the lald Homage and Oath 

iu all pninis, wi' dubind our bo<ly, our helra, all oar landa 

, and ' irid all that we hare or can have de atUt 

I tl Ikj lly, at the will of oar raid Lord the King, 

[•nd VI uit Mi'irn: And we do will and i^rant for aa and 

oar beirs, thil if it happenn, which Unti forbid, that we 

ior our beiri shall ever be in war a|{aioet our said Lord 

I the King, or his beir», or In aid or counsel to any of their 

I enemies, privily or openly, that our body, our UniU and 

onr f" '- ■ '- ind nil that we have or can have, bo ft-om 

then '(ed to our snld Lord the Ring, nnd lo 

bi« I ■ !i manner that we or our heirs may never 

be abli! Iu tJuim or chnlenge any right to the same. Fur- 
tberrnore, wa will and grunt for ua aud our beir^, if it 
happens that we be at any time hereafter ngaiii«t our said 
' Lord the King, or his heirs, as is said beK)re, thnt then 
tbc Archbiahops, Bishops, and any other I'rolalcsof Ktiff- 
lund and ScnUand, such and as many as it shall jilcase 
our sold L'<rd the King of Knffland, or his heirs Kings of 
'jnd, witliuat any manner of tryal, monition or warn- 
icnd withont any man's gainsaying, may give sen- 
H of •xcotnmunicalion upon us and upon our heirs, 
ail miiy excommuntcalo us, and put us out of the com- 
munity of all Christian)!, and may put our lands under 
interdict. In witness of which things we have put onr 
Seal to this letter. Given in the Priory of the Canons 
of LmTfcn^t, the twenty-third day of Oelobtr in the year 
ufd'r, 'I'lisand three hnndred and aix, and in tbe 

four I li year of llio leign of our said Lord the 

Kirt- ihingj being thus done, the said Lord 

t/oncs, «u lUe same day, came into tbe presence of bis 
Lord the said King of England, and roade Homage to the 
■aid King for hli the sahl Jama't lands In Scotland, in 
tbe dae and luiial farm. These things were done in the 
Prionry of tMnrteoti, in the diocese of Cartile in the Year, 
Indiction and day aforesaid, in the presence of Adnmar dc 
Vaienet, and of several other persons of Distinellon 
fnaued hereunder). And stroitway the said Publick 
Instrument WIS. by the Treasurer's command delivcicdto 
Adim dt Oigoifky, Keeper of the Rolls of the Chancery t« 
be enrolled. — Modoxa Baroma Angiica, Book iii. cLap. 
^ri. tt7. Z8«. 

Tbe other persons of distinction were John dc 
Ilastyng, John Boletiirt, Robort de la Ward, 
John dii Sullcye, naroii.i; John Ilaslan^, John 
de Dunedate, knights ; and John de Suudiile. Wil- 
liam dc Bcvcrcote, Robert dc Cotyngham, and 
John de Wynton, clerks. Joint Pavin Phuxips, 


jHfnar fiattt. 

Thk Tina nv Montaroio. — Every one has 
heard of the eonviclion of a murderer by tliis 
famous nniinul, "wiiicli," as we are told in !^Iur- 
rny's llamlbonk o/ Fraucf, " is soid to huvc taken 
place in tbe jpresenoe of Charles VI," The story, 
oowcrer, is fax older. St. Ambrose, in his Hexae- 

meron (v. 24.), tells of a murder nt Antioch whieh 
waa detected by a dog ; and Giraldus Cambrcnsis 
(about A.D. 1200), who refers not only to Am- 
brose, but to Suetoniu.s, De AnimautiwH iVia^uru, 
adds the circuiostance of the duel : — 

" Hinc cHno dentibusarmato, illiuc baculo cubital! mi- 
Ut« Diunito; tandem cane victore vidua bomicida auc- 
cubuit, et ignominiosam publico palibulo pociiam dodit." 
— Itintrur. Cambria, i. 7. 

J. c. n. 

Obdinatios Fe£8. — At p. 203.* of the Essay 
oyi £ccleitjiistical Economic by the late Rev. ^\'. J. 
Conybenro, we find two inslancts specified of a 
remnrk.ible variety in the fees e.xucted by the 
several bishops' aecretaries for the docutneiUs ne- 
cessary at the two ordinations. Tt would be 
curious to have a full list of the varieties in such 
exactions, and some information on the principle, 
or rather vi-ant of principle, on which they arc 
made. I give Mr. Conybeare's instances below, 
and add n tliird variation from my own experience. 
Mr. Conybeare's Essay was published in 1856 ; 
my own knowledge dates from a year later. Is 
Uiere any change ? — 

VVorcflsler - - 0/. it, (UL 

Hereford - - 7 10 C 

Peterborough • - 5 

* P. J, F. Gastuj-on. 
A NoTK OK Caixrb. — It is, I suppose, gene- 
rally considered that cairns were sepulihral me- 
morinlfl, tind were raised by every pnsser-by casting 
n stone on the heap, " whicli would be regarded 
as an honour to tlie deail, and as aeeeptable to 
his manes." The custom reminds us of the request 
of Archytas, in Tlnraco (lib. i., ode xxviii.), to 
llie sailor not toleuvc liis body unburicd: — 

" festinns (non est longa mora) licebit, 
Injecto ter pulvero curras." 

It is said that to this day there is a proverbial 
expression among the Highlanders allusive to the 
oJii practici'. A stipplicant will tell his patron, 
"Curri mi cloth er ilo chorne," "I will add a 
alone to your cairn;" meaning, "when you are 
no more I will do all possible honour to your me- 

Now this seems to have been a wide-spread 
custom; nt least it is an interesting: fact tnat it 
exists at this present time in Burmiih, In a siniill 
work publisheil last year, cnlitled Thf Gotpel in 
Bumuth, containing accounts of tJie American 
missions in that country, is the Ibltowing extract 
from a journal : — 

" On the way I noticed a largo rock on the side of 
the mnnntain pilo<l up with small atones, and in asking 
how tbesc ktonra came there, they told me of a custom 
that prevails among all the Burmese. Kvery une who 
ptiiKtes by picks up a atone, and throws It on the cairrt : 
if they fail to do it, they believe sickness and other ills 

• As included in tbe rolum* ol CvlUcied Etta)it(lJ>'ag- 
mana, l«t)5). 




will befall tbem. It teems to be a species of worship to 
the spirit of the mountain, and the^ say the custom is 
very ancient. I stopped to see if my coolies observed 
the tradition, and lo, each one as be passed stooped down, 
and picked up a stone, and threw it on." — P. 218. 

S. S. S. 

Fbekch Pdzzles. — A mother gives her child 

a cup of tea to cure a cough. She then, in 'the 

following words, inquires if the tea has produced 

the desired effect. Of course the child is tutoyi: — 

" Ton th6 t'a-t-il oti ta toux f " 
I hare never yet found a person, however pro- 
ficient in the French language, who, hearing this 
for the first time rapidly pronounced, could tell 
the meaning. 

In consequence of final consonants being gene- 
rally not pronounced, the French language has 
more words than any other which, being spelt dif- 
ferently, are alike in sound : thus affording great 
scope ior the lover of calen^ourgt, or puns. For 
instance : — 

Sain, sound. 

Saint, holy. 

Sein, bosom. 

Ceint, girt. 

Seing, seal or signature. 

Cinq, five. 

Sin, one of the Arabic letters. 
And I suspect there is another, but it does not 
at present occur to me. Thus »gain, the sound of 
Say, a proper name, is identical or nearly so with 
that of many words of different meaning. The 
following may exemplify this, though it is not ele- 
gant French : — 

" Je saia que c'est sur ces sept sales que Say 
Cessait ses essais." 

These are trifles, biit — 

u Dulce est desipere in loco." 

John Williams. 
Amo's Court * 

Population of oub Chibf Crriss and Towns 


In The General Evening Post of March 20, 1781, 
the following is given as the 

" Number of Hou$t» in certain Townt, had before the 
Houte of Commont by the Tax Office, hy Order of the 
House, viz. : 
- Exeter, 1474 ; Norwich, 2302 ; Cambridge, 1925 ; 
Plymouth, 1510; Lynn, 602; Oxford, 2316; York, 2285; 
Yarmouth, C82 ; Ipswich, 1246; Hull, 1370; Netrcastle, 
2239; Dover, 1193; Sheffield, 2022 ; Bristol, 8947 ; Not- 
tingham, 15H3; Liverpool, 3974; Bath, 1173; North- 
ampton, 706; Manchester, 2519; Birmingham, 2291; 
Shrewsbury, 904." 

This statement, having been laid at the time 
before the House of Commons, must be presumed 
to be correct ; and on that account is worth re- 
newed preservation in the pages of " N. & Q." 

A return of the increase in each city and town 
/o tAe present time, would, no doubt, form a 

striking memorandum ; not only as to population, 
but in regard to the increase of our national 
prosperity. Y. S. 




Amongst the very mnny curious books which 
belonged to the late Principal Lee, and which 
were sold by Mr. Thomas Nisbet last winter, was 
a little volume containing three separate works, 
viz. : — 

1. "Manuductiona to the Pallace of Traeth, by F. B. 
Observant, Mackline, 1616." 

2. "CtBsar's Dialogue, or a Familiar Communication 
containing the first institution of a Subject in Allegiance 
to his Soveraigne. London, Purfoot, 1601." Black letter, 
with beautiful portraiture of Elizabeth cut in wood ou 
back of title. 

8. " God and the King, or a Dialogue shewing that 
our Soveraigne Lord King James being immediate under 
God within his Dominions doth rigbuully claim what- 
soever is required by the Oath of Allegiance. Cambridge, 
imprinted by his Majesties speciall privilege and com- 
mand, 1616." Black letter. 

It is in reference to the second work that I am 
anxious for information, for the address to "all 
sound members of that bodie whereof her sacred 
Maiestie is supreme head," is subscribed " £. TS^" 
and has been filled up in an old hand Nitbet. 

On the boards of the volume is written in pale 
ink "R. Nesbit, May 1, 1649." Below, in a some- 
what darker ink, a sort of pedigree occurs : — 
« Sir Patrick Nisbet, Lord Kastbank. 

Robert Nisbet 

Rev' John Nisbet or Nesbit, 1660. 

D' Robert Nesbitt vel Nisbet, M.D., 1700. 

John Nisbitt, Barister, 1782-8. 

James NUbit vel Niabet, 1778." 

Then follows this notandum : — 

" The pedigree of my family for 6 generations, whose 
portraits are in possession of the writer hereof. 

«J. NiSBKT, 1794." 

Hiere are several carious matters connected 
with this genealogy. 1. As to the writer of Cti' 
lar^t Diau^ue. The insertion of the name of 
Nisbet as author in an old hand, connected aa it 
is with the fact of the book having belonged to 
a family of that name, affords a reasonable pre- 
sumption of the correctness of the assertion. 2. 
Lord Eastbank, a paper lord, as the Scotch used to 
call their judges, was the father of the celebrated 
Sir John Nisbet of Dirleton, whose Doubt* on the 
law of Scotland are deservedly held, even at tlus 
date, in great estimation. Now was Robert Nis- 
bet a brother of Sir John's P The MS. pedigree 
would indicate he was. 3. The spelling of th« 
name shows, if farther proof were requisite, that 
there was not any fixed rule, and that the names 
of persons might be spelt differently in the unM 
document 4. What has become of the " per* 

»■« 8. X. JcLT Ji. "BO-J 



trwU" of the Nisbela which in 1794 were in pos- 
•ecdon of J. Nisbct ? 3. Who wos John Nisbet, 
and when did be die ? 

The tract entitled God ami the King haa been 
subsequently reprinted, but the edition of 1C16 
seems the first one. Licence was given that year 
to James Primrose "for twenty-one years to print, 
or cause to be printed, both in Enchsh and Latin, 
either abroad or at home, the work entitulcd God 
axt the King." 

Primrose was the founder of the noble family of 
Ki»ebery. Could he have been the author P 

J. M. 

■ p« 



Permit me through your valuable publication, 
to uk for information respecting the InGt Earl of 
Anglesey in connexion with the Annesley fnmily, 
« member of which slill retains the title of Vis- 
count Valentia in the Irish peerage. Richard 
Annesley, the sixth Earl of Anglesey, died in 
1761, when a question arose as to the legality of 
Lis marriages (having been married four times), 
and the consequent lef^ilimacy of his children ; 
which ^canie the subject of inquiry before the 
House of Lords in England, and of that of Ireland. 
The claimants were Kichurd Annesley, an only 
child by Ann Sclkeld, and Arthur Annesley, the 
■on of Julian Donovan. 

Respecting the issue of this inquiry before the 
English House of Lords the following appeiired in 
the London Evening Post of the 4th April, 1772: — 

** Richard Ananley. the clafmnnt of tho titled and 
Honours of Richsrd, Inte E«tl of Anglesey. Es ibe lu- 
plimat« son n{ the sai>) Earl, by Ann, secood daugtil^r 
of >VJUiam Salkeld, of the city ot'LundDn, Merobant." 

The said Earl of Anglesey advanced hfs claim 
to the title, &c. of Viscount Vnltnlia in Ireland, 
which was accordingly henrd, and of which the 
following record appears in the Gentleman's Mng- 
azine, vol. xlii. page 291. ; — 

•• 2nd June, 1772.— "Tho loog-contestcd Valentia cause 
was ibis day decided bv the House of Peers in Ireland ia 
favour of the sittini; lord (Arthur Annesley): 19 were 
for him, and only 6 against hiiu; several lords did aot 
vote upon the question, which seemed to them doubtful. 
It ia aoniewhat remarkable that this luilile I.«rd ia ille- 

fiUmate in England, and the true Mit of liiii father in 
reland; and that he bas been so declared by two trifau- 
nalj» each supreme in its decisions upon the' question of 
tbe diSercot peerages." 

I shall feel greatly obliged to any of your readers 
who can inform me, through your very useful 
publication, when anil where Richard Annesley, 
tbe seventh Earl of Anglesey, died, and was in- 
terred. Whether married ; if so, to whom, and 
-whether he li-ft issue. 

Btirke's Peerage, kc. 1833, ai\d his Extinct 
and DormtttU Peerages, ate not in this instance to 
be relied on. H. J. M. 

Irish Kkiohts. — In the Dublin Warder, 26th 
January, ]82'2, tho following short paragraph, 
copied from The Globe, appears : 

"The opinion of the Atlurney-General and Solicitor- 
Ueneral has been taken, whether tho Ix>rd of 
Ireland baa any power to confer tho honour of knight- 
howl, and they are both decidedly of opinion that, since 
the Union, no such right has existed. A copy of the 
opinion has been sent to Lord Wellesley." 

Can you give roe any farther information re- 
specting knighthood in Ireliwd ? What proceed- 
ings were taken in consequence of the foregoing 
opinion ? and how, and when, was the right of 
the Lord Lieutenant to create knights, now exer- 
cised without any let or hindrance, placed beyond 
dispute ? Abhba. 

Antrobus. — Can any of your readers inform 
me if there is any connexion between the local 
name of " Antiobus " in Cheshire and the families 
of that name settled in the south of England ? 
Also, has any light been thrown upon the origin 
of this curious name? Is the termination L:itin? 
and if so, are there any instances of its being 
vernacularly used in English ? Ei.£Dtu£bus. 

Stewart, Earl or Obkkkt. — What w-c the 

facts about the representation of this title* The 
earldom is staled to have been claimed by John 
Stewart, Esq., who died at his estate. Mount 
Steward Prince Edwurd's Island, in 1833, at a 
very advanced age. Mr, ,Jr)hii Stewart hud held 
some high offices in that island, such as Speaker 
of tbe House of Assembly, &c. Where can the 
pedigree be found ? The title to which he laid 
claim was that created by James V. of Scotland 
in favour of his son Robert, whose molher was 
Eupbeme, daughter of Lord Elphinstone. The 
title docs not appear to have been borne by any 
of the family after the death on the ecsRoId of 
the second earl. Query, was the title claimed by 
the nforesftid John Siewnrt tis the represeiitotivc 
of a younger son of the first earl F Iota. 

Miss Parsohb and D . — 

•■ Can that soft tinme still dwell in Ptrsont' brMWt, 
Which pilaied age with big cold hand baa preat? 
Tis not her face, 'lia her inirenuous tuinj. 

That did a Grafton, doth a D , bind." 

N. F. II. for Wit, vol. V. p. 255. 
It is well known that Miss Parsons, nfler the 
rupture of her liaison with Ihe Duke of Grafton, 
was ultimately married to Viscuunt Maynard. 

Who then was D ? lie must have been 

some intermediate lover, who, perhaps with others, 
filled up the space between her two aristocratic 

Junius says of the Duke, " His b.nseness to this 
woman exceeds all description and belief." But 
the fact was that the Duke of Grafton, having 
been released from a wife whom bo disliked, de- 
termined on becoming respectable. He therefore 



[2«< S. X. 7uLT 14. 160. 

pensioned offhU mistregs and married Miu Wrot- 
tesley, daughter of a Staffordshire baronet, a young 
lady in every respect worthy of the ranlc to which 
she was raised. 

Miss Parsons, Miss Reay, and many others, are 
examples that ladies do not universally, when they 
lose one virtue, bid adieu, at the same time, to all 
the rest. W. D. 

Simon Paap, thh Dutch Dwabf. —- There 
must be some mistake in the account of this indi- 
vidual's height furnished by M». Vak Lkikbp (2»* 
S. ix. 423.), where it is said that at full growth 
he did not exceed 16 inches and a half. I taw 
Simon at Oxford in the year 1818, when he waa 
-exhibiting himself in this country; and his cus- 
tom was to present his visitors with his auto- 
graph. I have the one ho gave me (written in my 
presence) now before me, upon a scri^ of paper 
measuring 3) X 2 inches. I transcribe it literatim : 
" Mr. Simon Paap, 
Age 28 veara, in height 28 inches, 
Weighs only 27 lb." 

It is .written in a rather small but distinct 
hand, and the capital letters are very much 

Que^ : is there any record of an adult human 
being whose height did not exceed 16 inches and 
a half? E. V. 

Jomr GRKfHHATGH, of Sidney College, B.A. 
1630-1, was admitted a Fellow of S. John's Col- 
lege, on Mr. Asbton's foundation, 23 March, 
1631-2; commenced M.A. 1634; was one of the 
Proctors of the University, 1639-40, and pro- 
ceeded B.D. 1641. He was ejected from his 
fellowship by the Earl of Manchester, 8 April, 
1644; married before the Restoration, and was 
created D.D. 1672. We suppose him to have 
been the Mr. Greenhaigh who attended James 
Earl of Derby at his execution, IS Oct. 1651, 
and drew up an account of his speech upon the 
scaffold, and of some remarkable passages in his 
going to and being tlpon it. (Peck's Desiderata 
Curiota.) We hope that some of your corre- 
spondents can give information as to Dr. Green- 
halgh's preferments, and the date of his death. 

C. H. & Thomtsoh Coopeb, 


ThB FrOIT op the FOBBIDSEN Tb£B Poi- 

aoKons. — Could any of your readers inform me as 
to the orielnator of this opinion ? In a work, re- 
cently published, on Metaphysi(;8 (by the Rev. 
John H. Mac Mahon), the author, whose note 
(p. 2.) on the above point displays considerable 
research, tells us that he has been unable to dis- 
cover the name of any particular theologian es- 
K using it, though the opinion itself is mentioned 
Josephus, Theophilus, and several of the 
Fathers, Engubinus Steuchus, Le Clerc, and 
otben. £yeii Ludovicus Yives — a man well 

Terscd in such questions — acknowledges bis ig- 
norance in this matter, as appears from a quota- 
tion, given in the note referred to, taken from his 
Commentary on St. Augustine's D« Cimtate Dei. 

Amsterdam Theatre bdrnt. — 

"At Amsterdam. Neyts was playiDjg; in the grand 
theatre, wben, on the 11th May, 1773, during the repre- 
sentation of The Daerttr, this soperb bnildlog beeame a 
prey to the flames. This terrible accident cost aareral 
persona their live*, and cmoied the ruin of tbe actor Pont, 
who, as well as Neyti, resided in the building." — Dale- 
pierre, History ofFlemiih Literature, p. 178. 

Those who are interested in Dutch literature 
are much indebted to Mr. Delcpicrre for his excel- 
lent outlines ; but as a supplement to HalUm it 
u incomplete for want of references. Can any of 
your correspondents tell me where to find a fuller 
account than the above ? In all the books whioh 
I have consulted the fact of burning with loM of 
life is all that I can find. A great theatre was 
burned at Venice in 1780 or 1761. Any iafor- 
mation upon the fact will much oblige. F. 

"A CoixEcnoiTEB:" what? — In the register 
of the parish of Great Hampden, Bucks, which 
commences 23 October, 1557, and is very cflrioos, 
this word is often used. Thus, in the record of 
burials, we find, — 

" 1741-42. Janr 23<. Sarah Etherop— a Cdlaotloaer. 

1762. Jalr 20<i>. Jna Apsalon of y* psb of Bitchendan. 

The poor are generally entered as pa^tert, and 
the tramps as travellers. If coUeetiont^ neant 
beggar in any shape thoy would have been borifld 
in their own parisn of Hitchenden (which is dose 
by). I cannot find that the word is used now, nor 
is there any tradition relative thereto, A. A. 

Poets' Corner. 

Babylon. — I shall be greatly obliged tty any 
references to works affording information of any 
kind as to this town, and the laws, customs, habits, 
&c. of its inhabitants : such information will be 
very acceptable, however slight it may be. X. L. 

Mns Edwabds, — Wanted some Mrticolam ot 
Miss Edwards, author of Otho and RtUhOy a dra> 
matio tale, Svo. 1781. A volume of MiaeeOamet 
was published at Edinburgh in 1776 by a IfisB 
Edwards. Are these two books by die same an- 
thor?* R. Inaus. 

The Father Bectoe at Borbixs. — I ham 
before me the copy of a letter f, extendinit om 
six folio pages, evidently written by a Jesmt, and 
addressed " To the father Rector at Burells, 1688." ■ 

[* These works are by the same lady. — Ed.] 

r In a lia volume of " Historical CoIleotioM^ ia Iks 

library of tbe University of Cambridge^ maxktd Ka. 

v. 1. 




It begins ; — 

"Father Hector, — Let not (he d [illegible] of as- 
t4i)t(alim«iit Kxizn upon voar nio^t sacrcil iiiul zetlous 
' _'c lilt! auJiliiino an.l unpxpeottd 
i iifnt. Weo have not oppoMcl, but 
- < that wee hopa as much iu tbls 
[i'arlUuieiit, 14k £\tjc wa leutd any ia Qu. £lix: dayes." 

The writer proceeds to show tlio ground of his 
I hope, wliic-h was cbiefly the anarchy which would 
result from itie factions in the Uou.te ; at consi- 
derable length he points out liie means of over- 
throwing " their furious enemy the Duke of 
. Buckingham," iind says; — 

"Wat tiavo IboM of our otrne reh'(poa which atand 

jBuaUie at tba Duke's chamb«r doore, to see whoe 

I in and out. J cannot cbooM but Uu^h to sec some 

occowtred Ihomselvoi ; Tou would scarce 

. if yon »awo thism ; and 'lu aUmaralle howa 

tnfl gMturo they act the puritan. "Die Can- 

< shall tee (to their roofuU experience) 

:u>r Bcte the puritan than they bnre done 

The letter ends thus : — 

"J i ;•» with ours in iroportuain^ the 

Ble- 1 the boast of an^lli and holy mar- 

tyr < < And uoequMtion Gad will make 

Mate to lial|> u*. 1 iiui having to tvo Count de Tilly and 
IImi^uu Spinola hecre about July come tw<;lv«n\onth» I 
rest, in tUe uicaoe tyme wee pray for the bappy laccesfe 
in Germany and the I^we CountrycB." 

Cad Mr. Gaudinisk or any other reader of " N. 
& Q.," versed in tlie hitilory of the time of Chavlea 
I., identify the writer of this letter, or tiie "Father 
Rector " to whom it is addressed ? h '* BurelU" 
xhe place where, or tbo penon with wLom. Father 
Rector wu residing P £. Yentbi«. 

CitAHLEB IT. — The following unpuhlislied let- 
ter from Sir .Joseph ISanks to George Chaltners is 
curtOtu : — 

"Sprlnc Grove, Oct. 0, 1813. 

"My Dkar Sir, — Can you tell me which of Charles 
tli« Second's mistreaww it wan who solicited him on her 
kuco* to conoent to the exclusion of bii brother Jainoa 
II. from tbo aaccesaion to the crown, in conaequcnce of a 

Eroraisc of £10O,00U from the Protcslaut party in caoe of 
cr success? 

" Faitbfnllv Tonrs, 

" Jos. BA!«K!«." 

Is there any authority for Sir Joseph's 5t.itc- 
ment? Who was the Delilah ? J. ITeoweli,. 

CKuratiA. OP DuKSTArFNAGK. — R. R. C. will 
feel obliged by any of your renders pointing out 
where the genealogy of the house of the Caiiip- 
bellfl of Dunstttll'nage ia Argyleshire, from Sir 
Angus, it« present head, as far back as b known, 
may bo found. 

" Tub Spbig or Skuxelau." — Who was the 
author of this well-known national gong ? Ma. 
FiMPATBiCK, in hia lately published Memoir of 
Lady Morgan, p. 15., slates that ho bns received 
■ letter from a racmber of the Royal Iriah Aca- 

demy, claiming the nulhorshJp for the late Mr. 
H. B. Code, proprietor of The Warder newspaper. 
Sir Jonah Harrington, in his Pertonnl Skrtchett 
vol. i(. p. 231., gives it as the production of Ed- 
ward Lysftght, .amongst whose Poems, however, 
published in 1811 after his death, it is not to be 
found; and Lover, in his Lt/ric» of Ireland, p. 
139., evidently on the authority oi' Barrinfton, 
assi<;ns it to the same pen. " The same rcniurk," 
as M«. FiTZPATBicK notes, " applies to D. O. 
Maddyn's observation in the Reeetatum* of Ire- 
laud, x>. 12." AuuBA. 

Thomas Bbdwbix, mati-iculated as a sizar of 
Trinity College in November, 15(52 ; B.A. 156G-7; 
M.A. 1370 ; was a minister in London about 
1580. lie projected the bringing the waters of 
the Lea from Ware to London, \\e iHilicvc that 
he was uncle to Williaju Bedwell, rector of S. 
Kthelburgb, London, and viour of Tottenhaui, the 
great Arabic scholar, who calls him "our Eng- 
lish 'I'ycho, a man so ingenious, industrious, and 
learned, that I suppose there were few things 
vndcrtiiken by Lim, if fecible, which bee would 
not have effected and done." (\V. Bedwell's iirie/" 
JJetcriptiou of ToUevham High Croau^ chap. Tiii.) 
Ho is nuthor of 

1. "Dc Numeric Geomctricii. Of the naturo and pro- 
perties of geomelricnll numbers, first, written bv Lazarun 
SchoneruB, and now ennlisbcd Ijy Tho. Bcdvfcll," Loud. 
4to. IG14. With u preface by William Bcjwell. 

2. " Meeolabium Arcbitcctoniconi, that is, a most rare 
ami singular instrument fur thccasic, S[>eedy, and certain 
knowle<lge of uiessuring plao?s and solids, iuvented by 
T. Bedwell," Lontl. 4id. 1631. 

This was published by William Bedwell, and 
according to Watt there was a second edition, 
Loudon, 4to. 1639. We .shall be glad to obtuiii 
any information however slight respecting Thomas 
Bedwell. He was perhaps the uncle to whom 
William Bedwell wrote 29 June, ICIG, for money 
to carry on some suit at law (Unckman's Cat. of 
Tanner MSS. 8-29.). 

C. H. & Thompson CoorES. 

Cabletow ahd CUAMUKHI.AI5. — Uuvinff occa- 
sion to refer to letters written by Sir Dudley 
Carleton to John Chumbeduin previous to the 
dcpnrturc of the former from England, in the 
early ])Brt of 1597, and finding the pupors inva- 
riably without date — the duy nnd month only 
being given — I huped to supply (he deficiency by 
u reference to the answers, but have hitherto been 
unsuccessful, as the S. P. O., thoush rich in ori- 
ginal Clianiberlain writings of 1598 and subse- 
quent years, has but one paper of 1507, and none, 
I believe, of the previous year. I should, there- 
fore, feel extremely obligerl to any reader of" N. 
h Q." who could point out original Chamberlain 
lett<!rs antecedent to 1398 which would enuble 
me to determine the dates of Ca^letQas*'^^V^"«t'>^•- 
ings. -aw.*.. 



[2-« & X. Jolt 14. *6Ki. 

<lkutxltg loitli 9ni(tDtr<. 

" Pallas Akglicaka." — Can you give me any 
account of the subject, &c. of a Latin political 
drama called PaUat Ariglicmm, written by Myles 
Davies, a Welsh clergyman P I only know this 
piece from the notice of it in Nichols's Literary 
Anecdotes, viii. 501. Neither the drama nor its 
author are mentioned in the Bu^praphia Drama' 
tica. Can you give me the date of the author's 
death ? R. Inolu. 

[In attempting to describe this work, there is a difll- 
CDlty arising out of the cbaracter of the work itself. 
D'Igraeli expraasas a sospicion (^Cahmitiet of Avthon, 
1813, p. 71.) that, 18 the author proceeded with his 
volumes, " hia mind became a little disordered ; " and in 
the JPaOoM AngHccma, which is the fifth volume of bis 
Atheiue Brilatmicte, there certainly are appai«nt symp- 
toms of an unsettled brain (brongnt on, as D'lsraeli snc- 
gests, " by want and indignation "). The author himself 
describes his drama as "Drama Ethico-PoUtlco-Episte- 
micam. TVm VarittaU SlyU jiuim maitrut tMque rtg- 
nantt; " and thii is perhaps as good an account of it as 
can be given. According to his " Argnmentnm " prefixed, 
p. L, Albionopolis (London?) is invaded by certain 
strangers who are led on by Are Magica and Discordia, 
t. e. Genius Jesnitismi and Irreligio Atheistica; and 
these, after giving a great deal of trouble, are at last 
eternally exiled by Pallas or Icensstei, " Itegio nempe 
cen Supremo Reglmine "1 It is a strange farrago, bat 
not without marks ef learning and ability. The data of 
the author's death is unknown.] 

Rbv. Charles Jbnkee. — Can you give me any 
account of the Bev. Charles Jenner, rector of 
Claybrook, Leicestershire P He was author of 
poems, plays, novels, &c. B. Ihglis. 

[The Rev. Charles Jenner was educated at Pembroke 
Hall, Cambridge, B.A. 1757; M.A. 1760; and obtained 
two of Mr. Seaton's prizes. He succeeded Dr. Hutchin- 
son in the living of Claybrook ; and having obtained a 
dispensation to hold that vicarage with Ciraneford St 
John, CO. Northampton, was instituted in 1769. His 
numerous works show that be possessed elegant literary 
accomplishments, refined taste, and exquisite senMbility 
of heart. Mr. Jenner died May 11, 1774, aged thirty- 
eight. A monument was erected to his memoiy in Clay- 
brook chancel by Lady Craven. Nichols's LacaterAire, 
Iv. 114. 135.] 

PoBTBAiT OF CoLONEL Babbe. — Is there now 
in existence, and if so, where, a portrait or engrav- i 
ing of Col. Isaac Barrc, member of the House of 
Commons, and a strong friend of the American ' 
colonies, previous to their revolution ? I know of 
none except in the picture of the death of Gren. 
Wolfe, whose aide-de-camp he was at the si^ of 
Quebec. R. E. H. 

[There is a portrait of Col. Barr£ painted by Sir Joshua 
Reynolds in the possession of the Marquess of Camden. 
Sir Joshua alra painted a portrait of Barrrf with Lord 
Sbelbume and Lord Ashburton (Dunning), now in the 
possession of Sir Thomas Baring. From this a large mes- 
sotinto was engraved by Jamea Ward, A.'BJk^ which 
has never been published, and it is also engraved as a 
frontispiece to the late John Britton's Autimrihip of the 
f.ttter$ ofJmini* JdenHfied, 8vo. 1848.] 

Sib Joun Fbbbino. — Can you afford me in- 
formation as to what year (I believe long since) 
one Ferring held office as Lord Mayor of Lon- 
don, and if during his mayoralty he received m 
title ? (as knighthood or a baronetcy P) A. B. H. 

rSir John Perring of Membland, co. Devon, was elected 
alderman of Broad Street Ward in 1798; served the 
office of Sheriff of London in 1800, and that of Lord 
Mayor, 1803; elected M.P. for Bomney, 1806; and 
raised to the dignity of a baronet by patent dated Oct 8, 
1808. He died on 80th Jan. 1831.] 

(2»« S. ix. 118. 281.) 

We do not know the "force" of Pbiu>-Bai<b- 
don's argument when he says " that Uie gradual 
change of language by reciters, besides that it ia 
wholly gratuitout is inadmitsible in compositions 
that appear so perfect and so elegant, so peculiar 
in a freedom from all vulgar admixture. Whj 
"gratuitous?" Can any verses recovered from 
tradition be truly said to retain the same form of 
words in which they originally came before thdr 
hearers two or more centuries ago ? Why " in- 
admissible," if in point of fact popular poetry of 
this class changes gradually in the lapse of time. 

The plot of the ballad may, in all its more im- 
portant essentials, remain pretty much as it was, 
but the language alters, — words, lines, verses are 
varied; and sometimes, we have no doubt, th« 
meaning of the original author is mistaken. The 
persons, too, by whom the ballads are handed 
down preclude the possibility of preservation in. 
their original state. Can it be conceived for one 
instant that the peasantry of a coiutry would 
be scrupulous as to phraseology? or that their 
taste for antiquated words would induce a careful 
retention of that which they did not understand. 
Nurses, husbandmen, and servants have been the 
means of rescuing many interesting poetical frag* 
ments from destruction, and surely such perscma 
would be the last in the world to care much about 
the language. If Frilo-Balbdon means to ny 
that polished and elegant diction creates a sua* 
picion of foi^ery, we are not disinclined to agree 
with him ; but we see no extt^ordinary polish or 
elegance in the lot of ballads Mr. Chambers has 
handed over to Lady Wardlaw. Agun, the in- 
terpolation of a verse or two in an old ballad is 
no reason why the entire production should be 
designated as fabricated. In some instances mo- 
dem manipulators have taken great liberties wiUi 
the text, either to suit their own caprice or to 
obviate that coarseness which the refinement of 
this century assumes to have disfigured our popa- 
larpoetry of the olden time. 

irom the days of Allan Ramsay to those of 
Boms and Scott th^re never has, in our humble 






0|iin!on, been a buUad written that could be mis- 
token for ancient : perhaps the inimitable pro- 
ductions of Surtees may be excepted, and the 
fragmentary stanzas of Steenie Mucklebacket's 
grandraotber in T/w Antiquary. They are much 
too fiue ; some arc very mawkish, some stupicl, 
and others of exceeding beauty ; but still llicj 
lack the flavour of the old minstreliiy. On the 
other hnnd, numerous ancient songs have beea 
rescued by poetical antiquaries from destruction, 
vitiated in many instances and interpolated, but 
nevertheless genuine. Those who have looked 
tnndi Into such matters cannot help being struck 
by the variations and dilfercnces which will occur 
in different versions of the same production. 
Take, for instance, Catherine Jaffery, a border 
ballad printed by Scott, but which had travelled 
into Aberdeenshire, and was first included in Sir. 
Maidutent's North Country Garland, and secondly 
iu Mr. Kiiiloch's Ballads. The story is substan- 
tially the same, whilst the verses vary materially. 

Sir Patrick Spens has been the chief object of 
attack. Let us see how matters stand in rcft:r- 
ence to this fine old fragment. It was originally 
printed by Bishop Percy in his Helirfiies, from two 
MSS. obtained from Scotland, and he had no 
doubt that it was genuine. Next it appesred in 
David Herd's curious and now scarce collection 
of Scotish songs ; and towards the end of lost 
century iu Riiaon's collection (1794); and this 
most acute and unusually cautious critic was ap- 
parently duly satisfied of its authenticity. Now of 
■II men in the world there never existed one so 
little inclined to t.ike things upon trust as Kitson. 
Sir Waller Scott, who knew him. iissurcd the 
present writer that he was the must distrustful 
individual in literary matters he ever met with, 
and the most dltTicult to convince. He actuiilly 
took a journey exclusively to ascertain the ac- 
curacy of a statement which 8ir Walter hazarded 
in relation to the height of the Roman wall at one 

Eortion of it, and thus salisificd hiuiself that 'what 
c had been told was true. 
That the original ballad was not fabricated by 
Lady Wardlaw I have not the slightest doubt, 
but I have no fault to find with such persons us 
think otherwise. Ritsoii is not alwuys infallible ; 
but in such matters there never existed a more 
keen-sighted man or competent judge, and when 
Sir Patrick passed muster before him, it would 
require some better arguments than any hitherto 
adduced to show that be had been imposed upon. 
The modern versions of the ballad by Scott, 
Flnlay, Motherwell, and Buchan are enlarged ones; 
they mention the visit to " Nomway," the recep- 
tion, probably at Bergen, where the palace of 
Kipg Haco still exists, the impertinence of the 
Norweginns, the hasty departure, the storm and 
conser^uenccs, which ore more minutely given 
previously. Sir W&ller informs bis readers 

that the version in the AlitulreUy was taken down 
by him from the recitation of Robert Hamilton, 
Esq., Sherift" of Lanark. Neither the reciter, 
Scott, Finlay, nor Motherwell entertained any 
doubt that it was genuine. Mr. Hamilton, with 
whom the writer of these remarks was very well 
acquainted, was a gentleman of probity and much 
esteemed. lie was about the last man in Scot- 
land to countenance a practiced joke. He was of 
good family, well educated, a chissical scholar, 
and moreover possessed of considerable legal 
knowledge- He obtained much professional re- 
putation for getting up the case for Hamilton 
of Wishaw, which earned the peerage of Bel- 
haven before a committee of privileges. He also 
drew up the elaborate claim of Miss Lennox of 
Woodhead to the ancient earldom of Lennox, an 
interesting production, but based on a fallacy. 
He had been in the arinv originally, and served in 
the American war. lie quitted the army, and 
coming to the Bar obtained the preferments we 
have mentioned. 

Mr. Hamilton used to sing the ballad to a 
quaint tunc, which the late Alexander Campbell 
noted down and gave to the public in his un- 
deservedly neglected collection of Scotish music 
termed Atbyn's Anthology, a work which ought to 
be better known in toe South. Mr. Hamilton 
died several years since at a good old age. Some 
time before his demise he liad relinquished bis 
Lanarkshire ehcrilTdom, and obtained the more 
lucrative appointment of clerk of session. It is 
now matter of regret that inquiry had not been 
timde as to the quarter from whence he obtained 
his version of the bnllad. 

Notwithstanding this omission I see no reason 
to question the accuracy of the Ilaiuilton addi- 
tions. In the firat place we are bound to take 
into consideration the character of the person 
from whose lips the verses are taken down by 
Sci>tt ; and in this instance he is omni exceptione 
major, to use a legal phrase. In the second place, 
Mr. liainittoti had not tlie slightest turn for poet- 
ical composition. He never wrote, his surviving 
rehitiuns inform me, a line of poetry in his life, 
Ue, both iu outward appearance and in reality, 
was an " unpot'tical "sort of person, As an his- 
torical relique the legend of Sir Patrick would 
attract his notice, and we doubt not that he got it 
during his rule aa sberiiT of Lanarkshire. What ■ 
a pity that modern sceptics did not raise their 
objections before his deinise. 

In the third place. Sir Patrick comes dressed 
by Mr. Peter Buchan after the Aberdoniun fashion, 
dilTering considerably from his more southern cos- 
tume. Uardicnutc was more than a century be- 
fore printe<l; numerous versions were published, 
yet, generally speaking, .the country ignores the 
existence of this worthy; whilst Sir Patrick, whose 
existence was only orally jierpetuated, contrived 



[2»* a X. Jvvt 14. '60. 

to forvire and ba genertllj known. We wish Mr. 
Buchan had giren us more information than he 
has done, r8 to the where and when he got copies 
of his ballads. 

4thl7. Although Pbiix>>on sneers at the 
legend of Papa Strons^, we think it of some mo- 
ment in the aispnte. There exists there, and has 
existed so far as the memory of man ^oet, a tu- 
mulus or grave said to be that of Sir Patrick 
Bpcns. This fact is noticed by Professor Aytoun, 
wno shrewdly remarks, — 

"The Scotcli ballads were not early current Sn Orkney, 
a Scandinavian conntiy : so it is very nnlikely that toe 
poem originated the name. The people know nothing 
beyond the traditional appellation of the spot, and they 
bare no legend to telL" 

This portion of Papa belongs to Mr. Balfour of 
Trenaby, and his brother most positively states 
that, although Sir Patrick's name is known all 
orer the island, the inhabitants are altogether 
ignorant how he came to be buried there. 

The vessel was struck by the storm immediately 
after leaving the coast of Norway. jBcrgen, the 
ancient capital, is situated on tne Kiors fiord, 
down which Sir Patrick probably sailed, and en- 
tered the North Sea. From the mouth of the 
fiord to Lerwick, the capital of Zetland, the dis- 
tance is 180 miles. Papa Stronsay, one of the 
Orcades, is perhaps the nearest or the group to 
the Norwegian shore ; consequently, as the vessel 
did not sink at once, but was driven forward by 
the storm, it drifted in the direction of this island, 
and then went down, why might not the body of 
the captain be washed ashore, and be there in- 
terred ? 

tSthly. The word Aberdour occurs in the early 
version, as well as in some of the more modem 
ones, and Pbilo-Baubdon has no doubt that this 
means the village of that name on the Frith of 
Forth, some six or eight miles above Kircaldy, 
and that it was the port of Dunfermline. From 
this opinion we beg to dissent. At the*time in 
question it is very doubtful if there was any vil- 
lage at all in the "baronia" of Aberdour which 
then belonged to the family " de Mortuo Mari," 
or Mortimer. The royal burgh of Invcrkeithing, 
with its fine bay, or Queen Margaret's Ferry, 
would neceasariljr be the " port " of Dunfermline 
from their vicinity. Now if at a short distance 
fit>m the coast of Norway the ship was struck by 
the storm, she must have been as swift as the 
Flying Dutchman to have got "half oure" to 
Aberdour in Fife before falling to pieces. 

At the entrance of the Moray frith is situated 
another Aberdour, and this, if we assume the ship- 
wreck off Papa Stronsay, obviates all difficulty as 
to the passage, because this island is nearly "half 
oure" between Norway and Aberdour. Every 
person who has suled along the coast of Aberdeen 
and entered the Moray irith must be aware of 

the rocky barriers which are opposed to the rage 
of the ocean in that stormy'district. The refer- 
ence to Aberdoxur is thus most appropriate, pre- 
snming the Papa tradition to be correct. 

6thly. We are told there is no historical record 
of such a shipwreck. Perhaps not as regards Sir 
Patrick ; biit there does exist evidence of a dis- 
astrous shipwreck that occurred when the Scotish 
nobles returned from Norway, after safely con- 
veying the Scotbh maiden to Bergen (P). The 
Abbot of Balmerino, Bernard de Monte Alto, and 
many of the Scotish aristocracy perished ; and al- 
though Sir Patrick Spens is not named, neither 
are the other magnates. Indubitably the ship- 
wreck and death of an ecclesiastic of high rank 
was considered by the monkish historian of the 
day as a much more lamentable event than the 
drowning of a dozen " skecly skippers." In pass- 
ing we maj remark that the family of Spens or 
De Spens is very ancient, and still exists in Scot- 
land. A branch went to France, where they were 
Counts, and enjoyed both rank and lands until the 

Although Fordun considered a church dignitary 
a mighty person, the community at large would 
think otherwise, and the loss of the gallant sailor 
would be esteemed a national calamity calculated 
to take a strong hold of the public mind, and one 
not easily forgotten. His aisastrous fate would 
be handed down from father to son, whilst nil re- 
membrance of the Abbot and the De Monte Altos • 
would speedily pass away. 

Lastly. The anachronisms arc most satisfac- 
torily disposed of in Mr. Clync's excellent pam- 
phlet, which those persons taking an interest in 
such matters should peruse. Even if there waa 
more in the ol^ections than there appears to be, 
we must take the liberty of urging what the Rev. 
James Johnston has so well expressed in his notes 
on the death song of Lodbrog : " to maintain that 
a poem which for centuries must have floated on 
the breath of oral tradition still retains precisely 
its original form would be a vain attempt." Viun 
indeed; and to affirm that Sir Patrick Spens is a 
forgery because words of more recent usage occur 
in the existing versions, is so palpably absurd that 
farther argument would be a waste of time. 

One word more and we have done. Phiix)- 
Baledon says that Mr. Chambers discovered the 
non-existence of Sir Alexander Halket. Not 
having had a copy of that gentleman's ballads 
before us, we had not been aware that he had 
detected the mistake of previous editors. But 
we do not agree with what follows, because John- 
ston is not correctly quoted. In his Musical 
Museum the words "Ah Chloris" are set to the 
tunc of Gilderoy, but it is not in the text that the 

* The De Monte Alto family still exist under the not 
particularly romantic name of Mowat, and once held con- 
riderable estates in the counties of Fife and Hid-Lothian. 

»>« 8. X JULT li. '60.] 



name of Sir Alexander occurs. *'Ali Cliloris" is 
usually believed to bo the production of Sir 
Charlfj SciUey, as it is Bung in his comedy of tlie 
Midberry Garden, and not improbably to the air 
of Gilderoy, then a popular melody in Eni^land, as 
would appear from the rare volume of Wuslmituter 

The mention of Ualket appears in the list of 
Bcotish pim^ prefixed to the volume, where John- 
ston gives the authors so far ng he could ascertain 
them. Opposite to Giideroy lie places Sir Alex- 
ander Htuket, evidently meaning that the ballad 
of that name wns from that person's pen. Eighty 
vean have elapsed since this work was published, 
but M Johnston lived nearer the time than we do, 
it is for from improbable that ho had been told by 
some old admirer of ballads that a Sir tomething 
Halket WAS the author of Giideroy, as there did 
eJitHt at the commencement of last century & 
baronet of the name of llalket, the brother of the 
authoress of Hardicnutc ; so that after all Giide- 
roy may hare been the composition of a llalkot, 
• although nut of a Sir Alexander. As the family 
still flourishes in the female line, and possesses 
Pitferran, might it not be worth while to ascer- 
tain if, amongst the family papers, soma vestige* 
may not remain of the poetical efl'usioni of the 
alleged authors of Gildero; and Hardicnute P 


"^ <2°* S. ix. 300.) 

Prom ft copy in my possession I can confirm to 
a great extent the accuracy of Ma. Batks's key, 
and also add several notes not contained in hts 
copy. Of the accuracy of my key I have not the 
slightest doubt, as it is in the handwriting of one 
who was for many years on terms of intimitcy 
with Beloe and his excellent widow. The addi- 
tions arc as follows : — 




M. Mytator. 


Vol. I. 

40. Eccentric character. 
44. Mod«rator. 
«B. PaUMT B— T. 
48. O * • *. 
111. Not yet a Jwlgs. 

tU. A very gnut mm. 
Aa old geoeral olScer. 

Vince, riamlaa Professor ot 
Astronomy, not the son 
of a Uackmatk, but of a 

Dr. Cooper, of Brooke, near 
Norwich, father of Sir 
Astley Cooper. 

John Fransham of Kortrich. 

Dr. Bealr. 

Peter Bilby. 


LcDi was offered a jadgc- 
ship and declined il, mura 
than once. 

Hon. William Windliam. 

Ueoeral Money, who was 
then living at Crown 
Point, near Norwiili, 
where the accident oc- 

MS. Nephew of Dr. Price. 

tnS. ThoJudga. 
155. The lady. 
157, Aroryrespectabloprac- 

li8. Aa indlTidual of high 

177. This same fellow. 
201. Learned and able eoa- 

203. The Squire. 
201. Mr. 11. 

207. An enquiring friend. 
2.11. An Intimate friend. 
333. Tlio geatlemoo. 
215. . 

261. Historian of Hindostan. 

296. Opus Magnum. 

'iS>9. Translator of ^schvlus. 

800. H . 

321. J. II. 

8.<)4. B. 

B3i. B., near Norwich. 

335. G. Y. 

3.i0. A man of esnhis. 

3,')1. A man of business, 

361. H. II. 

■119. A Lady. 

Rev. George Morpan, nA- 
nlsler at tU« Octagon 
Chapel in Norwich. 

Sir Ji>fin Nichols. 

Bliss Hurry of Ynrmonlh. 

William Ftntor of Norwich 
(grandfather of the pre- 
«ent Baronet). 

The Uon. Henry Hobart, 
M.P., by whoso influence 
he WM n|)poiiitad to tliu 
Stamp Ofliee at Norwich. 


Dr. Mttltby. 

Mr. Korria, 

Mr. Hewitt. 

T. S. Norgato. 

Mr. Beloe hlmKlf. 

Mr. I'.wen of Norwich. 

Dr. Kaine of the Chartw* 

Tum Maurice. 

The Brilisk Critic. 



Jobu Hunter. 



Great Yarmouth. 


I ml ay. 

Mary Hayeo, 

Mios Usitby, marrieil Pre- 
tyman (aflerwards Tom- 
Uue), Buhop of Lincolu. 

vou n. 

16. The place nil ailed to. 
SO. An individual. 
39, 40. Dr. P. B. 

48. A venerable old clergy 

103, A society. 

127. Wrote a book. 

15C. The present Earl. 

157. Church of C. 

107. The next penooago. 


Archdeacon Nares. 

Dr. Patrick Kussell : his 

brother. Dr. (?) Kussell. 

author of Htttory of 

Mr. Peole of Norwich. 

" The Alfred " in Albemaris 

Th« Hittory of iFilSam 


Sir Roger K«»ri»on.—tN.D. 
The dividend was kcwk- 
(»n shillings, and nut 
fourteen as stated by 
189. TEie son. Died 1819. 

„ The parson of the pa- Rev. Epbraim Mego. 
200. One of the trustee*, Mr. Fcllowea of Shotts- 

217. Tlie iniliTidual. Kev. Th. Maurice. 

T2S, Anotliev perdonape. Boscttwen. 

Having thus farsupplied omissions, it remains fur 
me to correct the following errors in Mb. Batbs's 

key : — 

y.ii. I. 

P. 108. "A fellow collegian" was not Dr. Sut- 
ton, but Mr. D'Oyley of llempnall. The va-Qvia-^ 



li^ 8. X. July 14. '60. 

which he collected (chiefly in pence, as I have 
heard,) was invested, and allowed to accumulate 
until the year 1840, when the improvement was 
at last effected, viz. the widening of Brig^'» Imu, 
one of the most important entrances mto the 
market-place, which was until then barely wide 
enough for one waggon to pass through at a time. 
(Dr. Sutton, by the way, survived Beloe twenty 
years or more.) 

P. 148. "The mortified and discomfited author 
was Mr. Brand (the dbbS), as the context clearly 
shows. Mb. Batbs's note belongs to the next 
Mge, the " villa" being Costessey, the seat of Sir 
WUliam Jerningham, grandfather to the present 
Lord Stafford. 

[P. 183. " Harry Alexander." My key has Mr. 
Burgh. Of this correction I cannot speak poai- 

P. 202. "Buckton" should be Bacton. 

P. 212. The person here alluded to, I beUeve, is 
not the Provost of Eton, but Dr. Raine. 

I may here remark in passinz that the story 
about Mr. Ewen (p. 234.J never having forgivers, 
&c., is untrue. 

Pp. 267. 293. It is scarcely necessary to say 
that Lord Orford, and not Oxford, is here al- 
luded to. 

P. 307. " Sir G. B." I suppose to be Sir George 
Baker (not Blane, as stated by Ms. Bates.) 

I will conclude with a few Queries : — 

1. Who was the " young man " (vol. i. p. 54.) ? 
Unquestionably not the late Thomas Amvot, to 
whom the portrait bears no kind of resemblance. 

2. The modern Parson Adams (vol. ii. p. 138.) ; 
H * * * (vol. ii. p. 143.). My annotator has not 
given the names of these two, although he agreed 
with me in suspecting that they are intended for 
persons well known to us both. There are, how- 
ever, expressions with regard to both of them 
which throw some little doubt on the subject. 

3. Who was the gentleman alluded to at voL ii. 
pp. 198, 199.? And what has become of the 
30,000/. ? 

4. Who was the Bigot Author (vol. ii. p. 332.) P 
I have some slight suspicion aa to who the "friend" 
was, but cannot quite reconcile dates. Q. 

(2»* S. ix. 459.) 

The sign of the Eagle and Child at Derby is 
derived from the crest of the Earls of Derby. 
This crest is accompanied with an explanator^jr le- 
gend, which professes to account for its origin. 
See JButorjf of the House of Stanley (Liverpool, 
circa 1799), pp. 31-60. ; CoUins's Peerage, vol. iii. 
p. 51., cd. 1812. L. 

** Hark the L«iaher." I9 it near a lock P 

" Craven Heifer." Prize heifer. 

" Lion and Adder." Arms. 

"Red Streak Tree." Bed-streak apple pro- 
ducing a famous cider. 

" Cock and Magpie." " By cock and pie I " (P) 

" Quiet Woman." OeneraUy headlets (some- 
times the "Silent Woman" under similar cir- 

Most of the " zoological " signs can be traced to 
the arms or crests of families in which the foun- 
der of the public house had lived, or who were the 
great people of the neighbourhood. G. H. K. 

In reply to Mb. Lampbat's Query, I have 
pleasure in forwarding the few following Notes on 
some of the signs he quotes from this county : — 

" Hunloke." This name is from the Hunloke 
family, the owners of Wingerwortb Hall, near 
Chesterfield, and one of the oldest baronetcies in 
the county. 

" Bishop Bliuze." A not uncommon sign, and 
having reference to clothworkers. The head of 
the bishop also occurs on some tokens. 

"Cross Daggers." Cutler's arms. On tokens 
of the seventeenth century the cutler's arms is 
thus shown. 

" Craven Heifer." From a celebrated breed of 
cattle originally from Craven in Yorkshire, and so 
much improved by Derbyshire breeders as to be 
called tiie " new Derbyshire," or " new long-horn " 

" Mortar and Pestle" requires no explanation. 

" Lover's Leap." This sign is taken from the 
name of a very celebrated and majestic rock in 
Middleton Dale, at the base of which the inn 
bearing this name is situated. The rock is almost 
perpendicular; indeed, it overhangs at the top, 
and from its summit a young woman once madly 
precipitated herself. The circumstance which 

fave rise to the rock being called the " Lover's 
.cap " occurred about the year 1 760, when a love- 
stricken maiden, named Hannah Baddely, finding 
that her affections were not returned by a young 
man to whom she had become fondly attached^ 
and who, after gaining: her heart, treated her with 
coldness and disdain, m a moment of deep despon- 
dency and despair, ascended the cliffs, and threw 
herself from the top of this rock in hope of de- 
stroying her life and miseries together. Her fall 
was, however, fortunately broken by some small 
trees which grew out of the crevices, and she fell 
into a sawpit, where she was found in an insen- 
sible state, and conveyed home. She ^adually 
recovered, but the injuries she had received ren- 
dered her a cripple, and after about two years she 
died. In the churchvard u a gravestone to her 
memory, and although the inscription is nearty 
obliterated, the villagers still point it out, and ap- 
pear to look with veneration on the spot where 
she lies. 

.^'3m-i U,'66.) 






^ Board" would itrobably be synonjrraoua with 

I will not encroach on the apace of " N. & Q." 
by giving meaning to the signs in other counties, 
but leare them (or correspondents in their own 
locjiliiies. There are, however, one or two I may 
rcuark upon. 

" Rod Streak Tree." The " red-streak " is one 
▼ariety of apple bearing; a fnvouritc and well- 
flavoured fruit. Herefordshire being a cider 
fiounty, this is a very appropriate sipn. 

" Heanor Boat." Heanor in Derbyshire is a 
market-town in the midst nf, and principally 
supported by, the coal-field of that county, and 
the " Heanor Boat " would be a canal boat by 
which the coal was conveyed to Leicester and 
other places. 

*' Loggerheads." This sign is not very uncom- 
mon. It was fonnerly drawn as two ugly heads 
facing each other, and the inscription beneath 
" We be Loggerheads three," meaning the two 
people represented and the one looking at and 
rea<iing it! Thure was formerly a sign of this 
kind in Derby. 

" Cock and Magpie." The celebrated " Revo- 
lution House " at W'hittington in this county, in 
which the bringing over of William IIL was con- 
cocted, was called the " Cock and Fynot," pynot 
being the provincial name for magpie. The old 
cottage has recently been pulled down, but the 
pablic-house adjoining still bears this name, " Cock 
and Magpie." 

" Quiet Woman." This I apprehend would be 
the some as the " Silent Woman," an old painted 
sign which I recollect in Derby when I was a 
boy. It represented, most unfiallantly, a woman 
with her head oflT, and implied that no woman 
could be quiet or silent " so long as she had a head 
on her shoulders ! " Lleweli-ynss Jewitt, F.S.A. 


"Hunloke" at Chesterfield. The family of 
Hunloke is or was one nf the great families in the 
neighbourhood, Wingerworth Hall, about three 
miles from Cbestcrfield, having bpen purchased in 
the reign of Henry VIU. fay Nichola.s Hunloke. 
Sir Henry Hunloke, the sixth baronet, succeeded 
to it in 1816. Arms: "Azure a fesse between 
three tigers' heads erased, or." 

The "Clock Whccr' at Barlbro' was probably 
adopted by a clookmaker; unless it be, what I 
have always taken it to be, St. Catherine's wheel. 

The " Lover's Leap." The rocks at Stoney Mid- 
dleton would be just the place to give rise to some 
legend connected with the suicidal leap of a de- 
■poiring lover. Such l^^ends are current in 
■various parts of the kingdom. In the Gazelleer 
of Derbijfhire bjr Samuel Bagshaw, 1846, p. 50&., 
U»e legend is given in full, bow a love-stricken 
maiden, Boddeley by name, threw herself from one 

of these rocks in 1760, and, strange to say, survi- 
ved the operation, and as may be supposed waa 
completely cured of her hopeless passion. 

The " Red Streak Tree * is a most appropriate 
sign in a cider county such as Herefordshire, and 
needs no explanation, unless your readers are nut 
aware of the existence of the " red-streak " apple. 

" Swan anil Hushes " needs no explanation ; th^ 
"Swan" is a common sign enough, the "rushes" 
or " flags " introduced as a finish totlie picture. 

Tlie " Crooked Billet " is explained m Hone's 
Table Book, i. 672., as having arisen from the 
Ifindlord of a small nie-house on Penge Common 
hoving availed liimaelf of one of the large trees 
then Dcfore the door to hang upon one of its 
lowest branches a crooked billet, which he set up 
instead of a sign. 

" Letter A." Corresponding to this there is in 
Parndise Square, Sheffield, the sign of " Q in the 

The "Four Crosses " in StafTord may be taken 
from the arms of the See of Lichfield. 

The " Eagle and Serpent "is probably the cog- 
nizance of some noble family. 

The "Mouth of the Nile" was probably first 
set up at the time of the buttle of the Nile. 

See also 1" Scries passim, but especially vol. ix. 

J. Eastwood. 

Your correspondent might find in almost every 
county a variety of tavern signs the meaning of 
which it is difilcult to discover, and I would in- 
stance a noted hostelry, the " Stewponey," on the 
bnrders of the county of Stafford, and near Stour- 
bridge in Worcestershire, whose singular name 
has puzdcd all local antiquaries. 

Some mimed by your correspondent are not 
difficult of solution, as the " Hunloke " Inn. 
" Cross Daggers " may, like " Cross Foxes," tlie 
arms of Sir Watkin Wynne, a common sign in 
Wales, represent some local family. 

" Hundred House " represents the place where 
the business of the Hundred was carried ou : us in 
the Worcestershire Hundred of Doadingtree it 
still is at nn inn with that sign. 

" Kuperra Arms," Newport, from a seat of 
Lord Tredegar's of that name ; and " Reil Streak 
Tree" ill Herefordshire, cider districts, is obvious. 

T. E. WisMiKaToK. 

I hope to be able to throw a little light nn some 
of the country tavern signs mentioned by your 

" Bishop Blaize" was Blasius, bishop and mar- 
tyr, A.D, ftl6. He was the patron saint of wool- 
combers, and this inn may have been originally 
patronised b^ this craft, 

" Bay Cbildcrs," and lower down " FSlho d.-t 
Puta," were both celebrated race-burses. We sIhq 
find the sign of " Bay Via\\aw" 



[2»* S. X. Jolt 14. '60. 

" Cross Daggers " were the emblems of St. Paul, 
in the same way as the " Cross Keys " belonged 
to St. Peter. 

" Craven Heifer." . I have seen in farmhouse 
parlours an engraving of a celebrated prize animal 
of this name bred in the Craven district in York- 

" Soldier Dick " is, I believe, the hero of a po- 
pular ballad-song. 

" Hundred ilouse " probably refers to the divi- 
sion into hundreds, tythings, &c. There perhaps 
the business of this division may have been trans- 
acted like "Lceters," which your correspondent 
had, I fancy, rightly explained. 

"Peter's Finger" may have some connexion 
with "Peter's fanger" or jailer; in German a 
personage of some traditional prominence, or the 
Saint himself has been called " the jailer." We 
find also the sign of the " Widow's Son," and the 
"Two Spies" of somewhat like character. 

" Mortar and Pestle " is only remarkable for its 
inapplicability to a tavern. It may have been a 
chemist's shop converted into a tavern with the 
old sign left, or have been the house of call of a 
fraternity of this description, as above under 
" Bishop Blaize." 

The " Hand of Providence," " Samson and the 
Lion," and the " Lion and Adder," are all of reli- 
gious origin. Many signs of this sort survive to 
us from Puritan times. The last of these suggests 
the time of the siege of Newark from its^ing 
found in that town, and probably refers to the 
passage in Psalm xci. 13., " Thou shalt go upon 
the lion and adder." The "Lion and Lamb is also 

"Mopson Cross" may have been originally the 
" Lamb and Cross," and the former may have 
been rudely drawn, and mistaken for a " mops," 
Germ., and perhaps old English, " a curly-coated 
dog," or, again, it may be the symbols of the pas- 
sion ; the former referring to tne sponge of vme- 

I cannot explain the " Strugglltig Man ; " but 
there is, I believe, at Hampton Court the sign of 
the " Widow's Struggle," which is extraordmary 
enough, and has some affinity to it. 
^ The "Eagle and Serpent" are frequently asso- 
ciated in allegory and symbolic representation ; 
they arc found together often on Greek coins. 

Local inquiry could ascertain whether the 
" Mouth of the Nile " has not reference to Lord 
Nelson's victory, as naval heroes and their victo- 
ries are very favourite subjects of commemoration 
on tavern signs. 

I have ventured to subjoin the following list of 
remarkable signs, most of which are to be found in 
London and its immediate neighbourhood. I have 
endeavoured to class together those resembling 
each other : — 

The "Black Prince." 

"Flower of Kent." 

" Crown and Anvil, " Crown and Two Chair- 

" Gentleman and Porter." 

" George and Gate," " George and Guy." 

"George and Thirteen Cantons," "Sun and 
Thirteen Cantons." 

"Swan and Hoop," "Swan and Horseshoe," 
" Swan and Sugar-loaf." 

" Green Man and Still," "Green Man and Bell." 

"Fish and Bell." 

"Fox and Knot." 

" Magpie and Horseshoe," " Magpie and Punch- 
bowl," " Magpie and Stump," "Ram and Magpie." 

"(Old) Centurion." 

" Bladebones." 

"Blue Last." 

" Cock and Neptune." 

" Stave Porters." 

The " Hart and Ton." 

The " Kings and Key." 

I have endeavoured onlv to give in this list 
signs unnoticed before, as rar as 1 can recollect. 
Tlie explanation of many of these is sufficiently 
apparent, but many are obscure enough. In many 
cases the juxtaposition of two things is quite for- 
tuitous ; very many find their way to sign-boards 
from the coats of arms of former proprietors. 
Some of these combinations are curiously like 
each other : thus, the " Bell and Mackerel," and 
the " Salmon and Ball ;" and, again the " Salmon 
and Compasses." Thus too the "Raven and Sun," 
" Sun and Falcon," and " Sun and Doves." The 
"Doff and Style " may allude to the turnspit's oc- 
cupation ; the " Goat in Boots " must refer to some 
fable ; the " Goat and Star " may be zodiacal, or 
corrupted from " Jut und Starr, as perhaps the 
"Still and Star" from " Still und Starr." The 
" Ram and Teazle " refers to the ram of Abra- 
ham caught in the thicket; the "King on 
Horseback" may be James I. or Charles I., who 
were fond of representing themselves mounted. 
Edward VL also appears thus on his crown pieces. 
The " Cat and Fiddle " may have some connexion 
with Catherine IHdele, the faithful saint ; perhnpt 
the inexplicable " Salutation and Cat" may hare 
some solution of the kind. " Whittington and his 
Cat" are commemorated by three signs in the 
east end of London ; while " Grave Maurice" must 
refer to Graf Maurice of the Netherlands during 
the Thirty Years' War, or perhaps to Maurice, 
the brother of Prince Rupert. M. L. Fosobk. 

" Filho da Puta." This is a Portuguese vituper- 
ative, and if not used to commemorate some 
triumph of the celebrated race- horse so called, 
may have been adopted by a would-be witty oc- 
cupant, who altered his sign fh)m a d<^ of some 
kind, to what every dog really is, viz. " a Son of 
aBitchI" U. 


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Poor Bex-i.e (^"^ S. i\. 364.)— The great Duke 
of Ormond itmrried the only child of ihe Earl of 
D«!»mouil. She was u wnnl of the Earl of llol- 
lait'l. Whilst the oouriship was poing on, the 
Duke was tl)rown ft great deal into the society of 
Lady habtlla Rich, both very young; the fre- 
quent result ensued, and the lady wtis sent to 
f rtuiue to conceiU the consequences. She was the 
bosom friend of the (future) younj; Duchess ; and 
«o well was the business niniiagcd, that she never 
knew what had happened to her friend, nor was 
their society and intercourse ever 0ubsct]uently 
inlerrupleiL Way not the reference to " Poor 
Belie" be some how connected with this story P 
1 have it somewhere related, bat cannot find ihe 
book, and had hoped some other reader might 
have recollected the anecdote. 

I throw the above out more as a farther Query 
on the original mutter than as on answer. 

W. H. L. 

Thr Jopoes' Black Cap (2°* S. ix. 132. 405. 
4J4.) — The quotation given by your correspon- 
dent II. D'AvKNET is not, I tbinit, altoj^ether to be 
depended upon. In tlie first place, clerks were 
forbidden to act as advocates in the common law 
courts so long ago as in tlie eai-ly part of Henry 
UI.'s reign, aiid very soon afterwards they ceased 
to exercise judicial functions in common law courts. 

In the second place, it is hardly to l)e conceived 
ttat by putting on upon ocRasion a certain cap, 
and so concealing the tonsure, ecclesiastical per- 
sons could be enabled for tlio time to disregard 
the Crtnon which forbade their participation in 
causes of blood. 

Speluian ima^nea that tlio Serjeant's coif — and 
we nhouid not forget that judges of assize must, 
by 14 Kdw. III. c. 115., be serje-anta-at-law — was 
adopted in order to conceal the tonsure of those 
clerks who remained ia the courts of law as ad- 

We know from the case of William dc Bussay, 
1259, that at all events the coif sometimes served 
tbut purpose. But, as it was habitually worn, and 
not merely assumed upon occasion, any inference 
to be drHWn from the cose uf Bussay must fail 
when applied to the use of the judges' black cap. 

Moreover, had ecclesiastical persona acilng ju- 
dicially in the' common law courts been enabled 
bv assuming the black cap to put themselves out 
ol the reach of ecclesiastical censure, surely some 
suck provision would have been made by which 
tbu ecclesiastical pci^jons in our hi<^he5t court of 
judieaiure mi;;bt have exercised their judicial 
/unctions in matters of blood. And yet there is 
Dot, I believe, any trace of such a provision in the 
records of parliament. 

Further, in the case of Prynne's sentence, would 
not L.iud (whose antiquarian knowledge was not 
amall) Imvc sheltered himself under such a prece- 
dmti. Imd it exiited, and assumed the cap, instead 

of vindicating himself bv a pitiful quibble from 
the charge of uncanonically taking pait in a cause 
offectmg life and limb? W. C 

Arc not two caps or » hat and a cap usually 
used by the judges, — one a three-cornered cup 
or hat made of beaver, which they sometimes put 
upon their heads, and which tbey usually currjr 
with them, and the other u cap made of silk which 
they put on only on very solemn uccasiuns? If 
this is so, how is the distinction to be accounted 
for ? S. O. 

Omtebs kVD Hblmslet (2"^ S. ix. 434.) — 
Wh.itever date may be established for the tune 
" Uelmsley," it is quite certain that "Olivers" 
preceded it; and could Mr. Olivers' music sheets 
(in folio), wherein the tune originally appeared, 
be procured, it might at once set the matter out 
©fall doubt. It is to be regretted that J. Wes- 
ley's Sacred Ilarmomj, 12rao. pp. 156. (in which 
the tune Olhert appears) is without date; it may, 
however, be inferred that the book was publiAhcd 
between 17C2— 1770. 

The first appearance of C. Wesley's " Lo ! He 
comes with clouds descending," wos in 1758; 
and it is most probable that T. Olivers was not 
far behind with the tunc for it. Neither the tune 
nor hymn are in J. Wesley's Select Hymm with 
Tnncs unni-xcd, 17G1. 

T. Olivers also composed a hymn on the Lutt 
Jtitlgment, (" Come immortal King of GInry ") be- 
fure Ihe year 1759, in tlie same measure as C. 
Wesley's hymn on Christ's second coming. 

Dariel Skikjwick. 
Snn Street, City. 

Ma.mfoli) Writbiuj (2°* S. ix. 444.) — Perhapa 
G. M, G. inav find an answer lo his Query in the 
question which I now suggest. What was the 
system of double writing invented by Sir William 
Petty for the exercise of and contrut over which 
he obtained exclusive privilege by letters patent 
granted March IG, 1647-8? 

The monopoly in his instrument, nnJ liberty of 
using it, was assigned to tiim i'nv a term of four- 
teen years, during which term no one might under 
a penalty of 100/. practise the art of double writ- 
ing by means of any instrument whatsoever with- 
out having obtained a licence from him. The 
charge for the licence was five shillings ; the price 
of the instrument was half-a-crown. W. C. 

Tap DitEssiNG (2'"' S. ix. 345. 430.) — Tap 
dreasing or well flowering is a custom derived 
from a periud long anterior lo the introduction 
of Chiistianity, ulihough many repard it us a 
remnant of Roman Catholicbra. Annual festivois 
were celebrated at the fountain of Aretliusa in 
Syracuse, in honour of Diana, who was fabled to 
preside over its waters. The Fontinalia of the 
Romans were " solemn feasts about wells," when 
it was customary to throw floireta u^vi «te«»x»» 





and decorate wells with crowns of the same. 
Shaw, in his History of the Province of Moray, 
says that heathenish customs were practised among 
the people there, and cites as an instance that 
"they performed pilgrimages to wells, and built 
chapels in honour of their fountains." The prac- 
tice of throwing flowers upon the Severn is a 
remnant of the ancient custom, and alluded to bj 
Milton in his Comus thus : — 

" The Shepherds at their festivals 
Curol her good deeds load in rustic lays, 
And throw sweet garland wreaths into her stream 
Of pansies, pinks, and gaady daffodils."— v. 849. 
Dyer also, in his poem The Fleece, says : — 
" With light fiutastic toe the nymphs 
Thither assembled, thither every swain ; 
And o'er the dimpled stream a thoaaand flowers. 
Pale lilies, roses, violets, and pinks, 
Mixed with the greens of bamet, mint and thyme, 
And trefoil, sprinkled with their sportive arms : 
Such eastern holds along th'irriguoas vales 
From Wreakin's brow to rocky Dolvoryn." 

At the village of Tissington, near Ashbome in 
Derbyshire, the custom of well flowering was, and 
is probably still, observed on every anniversary of 
Holy Thursday. On this occasion the day is re- 
sarded as a festival, the villagers array themselves 
in their best attire, and keep open house for their 
firiends. All the wells in the place, which are five 
in number, are decorated witn wreaths and gar- 
lands of newly-gathered flowers disposed in va- 
rious devices. Boards are sometimes used, cut 
into different forms, and then covered with moist 
clay, into which the stems of flowers are inserted 
to preserve their freshness, and they are so ar- 
ranged as to form a beautiful mosaic work. 
When thus adorned, the boards are so disposed 
at the springs that the water appears to issue 
from amidst beds of flowers. After service at 
church, where a sermon la preached, a procession 
is made, and the wells are visited in succession : 
the psalms for the day, the epistle and gospel are 
read, one at each well, and the whole concludes 
with a hymn, sung by the church singers, accom- 

Eanied by a band of music. Rural sports and 
oliday pastimes occupy the remainder of the day. 
(Vide Rhodes' Peah Scenery, p. 815. ; also Oent. 
Mag., Feb. 1794, vol. Ixiv. p. 115.; and Brand's 
Popular Antiq., vol. ii. p. 266., for other references 
to this custom of tap dressing.) 



Notes on Bugs (2"* S. ix. 500.) — As this 

generally tabooed subjeflt receives notice at your 
ands, allow me to hand you a Note supple- 
mentary to that of your correspondent Jatdee. 
What the ordinary English translation of the 
word Cimex was in the year 1635 will be evident 
from the English version of Pliny by Dr. Hol- 
land, published in that year. In the passage of 
Pliny (Hist. Nat. lib. xxix. cap. 4.), where he 

i speaks of the Cimex as an antidote against the bite 
I of serpents, and other pobons, the EngUsh render- 
' ing is as follows : — 

" As we may see for example in these piaues or looff- 
Ue» (the most ilfavoured and filthy vermine of all other, 
and which we loth and abhor at the veir naming of 
them), for natorslly they are said to be adversative to 
the sting of all serpents, . .'.'. . . and folk ground their 
reason herenpon, becaaae looke what day that Heos do 
eat a wal-loace, the same day there shsll no aspis have 
pouer to kill them," &c 

So that the word pmaite took its place, for a 
time at least, in the English language under the 
form of punie (or pmtaise, as both forms occur 
in Holland's Pliny), but was afterwards dropped 
in favour of the term bug, which,- as implying '< a 
terror by night," was certainly appropriate. The 
exact passage is, in Matthews' version (Day and 
Seres, 1549), " So that thou shalt not nede to be 
afrayed for any bugges by night." X. 

Armosial Bearings (2*^ S. ix. 484.) — 1. 
Fynderne (Cambridgeshire, Derbyshire, and Staf- 
fordshire), ar. a chev. (another engr.) between 
three crosses formce fitch^e sa. Crest — an ox 
yoke, or. (From Burke'ii General Armoury, I860.) 
2. " Sable, a cross flory arg." I find Argent, a 
cross flory sable, borne by family name of Adling- 
ton, may be the difierencc reverse is occasioned 
by younger branch. R. J. F. 

Storm Glass (2°< S. ix. 843.) — The ingre- 
jdients of the composition contained in the tube 
are two-and-a-half^drms. of camphor, thirty-eight 
grs. of nitre, dissolved in nine drms. of water, 
seven drms. of rectified spirit, at a gentle heat. 
The tube is closed with a cross cap, not entirely 
excluding the jur. — Beasley's Druggists' Receipt 
Book. £. M. 

With reference to one-half of Exon's inquiry, I 
think I can very well show that these instruments 
are not reliable in a scientific sense. At the re- 
freshment room of Shoreditch terminus of E. 0. 
R. a few days ago I saw two of these (" storm ") 
glasses, both alike and of the same maker, one on 
either door-post with advertisement placards. I 
remarked to the head of the department that they 
were not much use, but he thought them capitu 
inventions ; and when I showed that it appeared 
to be much more stormy on one side of the door 
than the other, everybody seemed to be much 
entertained with the remark. The little instru- 
ments were graduated with fine lines for obser- 
vations, and the difference of the two was a full 
inch. This, I believe, proves their inutility, ac- 
cording to their names, because although a little 
more draught at the door on one side than at the 
other might, by change of temperature, cause 
more of the solution in one glass than in the 
other to solidify, the weather must have remained 
the same. These glasses may give a rough indi- 

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cation of some stmosplieric cbanKes, and so will a 
long (trip of a common seaweed bung up dry in a 
panage, out ihe nomenclature of a wcatLer-gAuec 
vrilh the definition of a. regular scale cannot be 
depended on — if for no other reation, because 
of the irrcgulftj-ity of the crystalline surfnce. I 
expect nejit time I go to Shoreditch to see only 
one of the " glasses." EsurIess. 

DoMERRAT Book (2'* S. ix. 386.) — The trans- 
lation of the Exeter Domesday was mainly in the 
hands of Ilalph Barnt-s, Esq., but ilie government 
pare 100^ to the late John Jones of Franklin, near 
Kxefcer, Esq., to correct the MS., which y)roved to 
be fiir from perfect. P. IIutcuinsom. 

" Kikg's Pbekogative in Impositioms " (2°* 
S. X. 9.) — In your edituritil reply to Edw. York 
you state that the author of the argument on tliia 
but.iject, designated on the title-pa;;e as " a late 
learned Judge," was Sir Henry iclverton. Will 
^nu allow me to ask whether you have any other 
authority for speaking so decide<ily than State 
Tnals, vol. ii. p. 477., where it it) called "Mr. 
Yelverton's Argument"? 

The reason of my inquiry is, that in your laat 
volume, p. 382., to which you yourself refer, your 
correspondent S. K. GAaniMEK osscrts, upon ap- 
parently conclusive evidence, that the real author 
oftbe Argument was Sir James IMiitelocke ; nnd 
abows from a letter of Dudley Cartetou thnt 
Yelvertoo argued on the other side, and that liia 
f])ccch was "absolutely the worst" that was 
delivered on the occasion. 

Sir James Whitelocke died in 16.12, and Sir 
Henry Yelverton in lliSO; su tliat iu 1641, the 
date of the first edition of the Argument, the title 
of " a late learned Judge " would apply to eitlier. 
The second edition was publifbed in \ii5ii, when 
the name of Whitelocke was certainly more in- 
fluential than that of Yelverton; Bulstrode 
Wbitelock, the son of Sir James, having been for 
many previous years First Commissioner of the 
Great Seal, and having been reappointed to the 
aame place in January, 1658-9, and therefore very 
likely to have bad the compliment paid to Lim of 
a republication (vf his father's tract. 

Sir James Whilelocke's Liber Famcliau has 
been pablisbcd by the Camden Society, under ibe 
excellent editorship of Mr. Bruce, since the vo- 
lume of my Judf;ei of England which contains 
the judge's life (vol. vi. p. 376.) ; and it confirms 
the suggestion which I ventured to make, that "it 
was probably some freedom of langua^re in which 
be indulged in Parliitnient that excited the king's 
displeasure," ond led to his temporary iniprison- 
inent. He lays (^Liber Fuinflicus, p. 32.) that 
Sir Ilunifrey May informed him "that the king 
bad taken ofl'cnce at my actions in parlLiment, iu 
maynteyning the cause of impositions so stiiflv," 
and presaged the ill that afterwards befell hiiu. 

This, there can be little doubt, wai the identical 
Argument so long attributed to Sir Henry Ycl> 

Ma. Gabdiwer may make this more certain if 
he will kindly add to his extracts from the Sloane 
MS. an occount of what he firds there of While- 
locke's and of Yelverton's speeches, similar to 
that which be has given of Lord Bacon's. 

EnwARo Fo»8. 

[We Have abo received a communication from cmr ubia 
correspondMt. Mr. S. H. GAnuni£ii, relating lo die uu- 
thortbip of this work. Our authorities for nllribuling it 
to Sir Henry Velvtrton were Ibe following: IlarKrave's 
Stale Trialt, xi. 5l'. ; and his own copy of tho work, witb 
the name of "Judge Yelverton" wiitteu on tho litlc- 
page ; Cobbett's StuU Triutt, iL -477. ; Fow'.i Judga of 
Englund, vi. 391. ; Ibe Calalogaes of the liritisU Museum 
and the Hodleian ; Watt's BiUiothtta aod Lowndes's 
Manual, lint on more carefully reading our comspoa- 
dent's statements (»ee "N. & Q.," 2~> S. ix. 383.), we 
must confess that be baa made out a case in favour of 
James Wbitelock as the author of thia celebrated produc- 
tion, and we have since discovered that biit cunji'dure is 
confirmed by Sir. Thomason's copv of the firat trdilioii, 
Dfeaerved among the Civil War 'Tracts in tho Uritish 
Museum, in which he hoa written the name of "White- 
locke" after the words "A lata learned Judge."] 

WH18TI.B TANKAans (2"" S. ix. 4S4.) —There 
are more whistle-tankards in existence than F. T. 
apiiears to suppo«e. Mr. John Holmes, of Melh- 
ley, near Leeds, has a very fine old tiiiikard of this 
description, which he was recently exhibiting at a 
public bazaar in our Town Hall. It is of earthen- 
ware, about eight inches in height, of rather nar- 
row circumfurencu lor its height, and is quaintly 
ribbed or waved in an embossed pattern. The 
whistle is at the foot of the pot, which is not 
generally unlike some of the pint-pots still in use 
m roadside public-bouses. There is not, bow- 
ever, any handle lo Mr. Holmes' curious tankard. 
If F. T. is dcsirauB of farther information, a note 
addressed to Mr. Holmes, al the above address, 
will procure him all the necessary details. 

Gkorge Ttas. 

Times Offico, I.eeds. 

F. T. does not seem to have adverted to the 
Notes, 2*" S. ii. 247., where a similar account is 
given of Mrs. Dixon's tankard ; and 2"" S. ii. 316., 
where it appears that W' histle Tanksu-ds ore not of 
the extreme rarity he supposes. My brother, W. P. 
Kix, 8. North Street, itrighton, told me a few 
weeks ago that, ia bis avocation of a buyer and 
seller of antique plate, he had one then in his 
possession, as well as a Peg Tunkard (!"■ S. vi. 
410.) The connexion of these articles with the 
vulgar phrases " whistle for it," " wet your whis- 
tle," " take you down a peg," and " a peg too low," 
is obvious. S. W. Rix, 


Rawdle CoTQBAVE {2"^ S. X. 9.) — It is possible 
that your correspondents may not observe a state.' 
ment, in an article "C<H\u«l^«t" ^,W- <»V 'iSa-e. 



[*^ a X JuLT 14. '60. 

Number in vhich they put their Qnerr, that 
Cotgrave was Secretary to William Cecil, Lord 
Burleigh. K. F. 

Abut awd Natt (a** S. ijt. 845.) —Up to a 
recent period the toasts were usually " Navy and 
Army, and in the announcement of intelligence 
by the press it was mvariabiy " Navy and Army " 
until the Time$ altered it. Whether it was done 
for the sake of euphony, or from respect to " the 
Duke," " deponent sayeth not ; " nor is it likely 
that our able contemporary will take the trouble 
to enlighten us ; but this I know, it was, and is 
considered by the Navy as a " slap," and I have 
frequently heard Navy officers speak of it with 
bitterness. Being away from " polite circles," I 
am unable to refer to " files " for dates. 

Geobgb Llotd. 

Vbbmiuoh (2»« S. ix. 477— 9.)— This very 
interesting paper deserves immediate notice. Var, 
colour, coatinnf (varnish). Mt/lia, flame, red, in 
one or more languages of India or Ceylon, — ^I 
cannot say exactly at the moment — seems the de- 
rivation. Contracted, it is, " colour of a chief," 
general, or Chaldean. 

Is not Kinna-bar, also, fiame-colour, in the 
same t Nbmo. 



A Stetmd Seritt of Vicituhtdei of FtamHiei. Bjf Sir 
Bernard Burke, Ultltr. (Longman.) 

Finding the curious lubiect of the Decline and Fall of 
Families, which he bad nndertalcen to illostrate, far from 
exhausted by his first pablication, and encouraged by 
■ the fkTonr with which hii VicUtittuUt of FamUie$ had 
been received, Sir Bernard Burke has here produced a 
Second Series as full of varied and onrions matter as the 
preceding. Speculating on the decadence of noble and 
wealthy families. Sir Bernard regards the law of attain- 
der as having in England, more than in any other coun- 
try of Europe, nndermined and overthrown the landed 
aristocracy; and he states that to fatal has been the 
operation of this act, " that, of the twenty-five barons 
who were appointed to enforce the observance of Magna 
Charta, there Is not now in the House of Peers a single 
male descendant." This is the more sUrtling when we 
find, as we may do, many instances where property is 
now held by the direct representatives of those who held 
it when Domesday was compiled. We cannot, with our 
space, enter into particulars of the volume, which ex- 
hibits that strange combination of romance and reality 
which is sure to please the pnblic. As critics must find 
faalt, let ns say we should like to hare seen mors fVe- 
qnent references and an Index. 

Hmt'mg m the Himalaya, tcitk iVbft'eei of Ciatonu tmd 
Gntntrie$fhm the Rltpkant HmnOt of tke Dthra Dooa to 
the Acmtovr Traca in Eternal Siow. By R. H. VV. 
Dunlop, C.B. &c. lUujtrated by J. Wolf (Bentley.) 

Hr. Dunlop and Mr. Bentley have much to answer for 

in aandiag fcrth to the public, at soch a moment aa the 

presant, a rolume calcolated to allure our Biflemen — such 

of than at Itast aa can aflbtd it— to the novel and tempt- 

iog'^eTd opened fix the axerdse of thefar akill in a conntiy 

so rich in sport as that described by the author. The 
volume is not entirely filled with sporting matters, al- 
though of coarse they form the staple of it, but contains 
much personal observation and anecdote, and the short 
time occupied in its perusal will be well employed. 

TxBO Ltann of King tycjdert'$ Lay; a hitherto unknown 
Old English Epic of the Eighth Century belonging to the 
SagaCyclut King Theodric and hii Men, Now first nnb- 
lisned from the Originals in the Ninth Century. U'ith 
Translation, Comments, ITord Rill, and Four Photogra- 
phic Facsimiles. By George Stephens, Esq. 

Students of whst our accomplished fnend Professor 
Stephens calls " our noble olden mother-tongue " owe 
many obligations to him for his labours on the subject, 
and by such students the pre<ient volume, which is ap- 
propriately dedicated to Dr. Bosworth, will be liiglily 
prized. It contains not only some Anglo-Saxon frag- 
ments of the highest interest in a philological and lite- 
rary point of view, but these are illustrated by the editor 
in his quaint and peculiar style with an amount of learn- 
ing and intelligence calculated not only to do him the 
highest credit, but so to promote far more general atten- 
tion to the study of our early language and literatura. 
The work is in short a most important contribution to 
our stores of Anglo-Saxon remains, and one to justify to 
the fullest the enthusiasm of its editor. 

We have received a number of specimens of the reprint 
of the First Folio edition of Mr. William Shakespeart't 
Comedies, Histories, and Tragedies, which the publisher, 
Mr. Booth, announces as proceeding with "safest haste." 
They are highly satisfactory ; and with such evidence of 
care in their execution, that we cannot doubt that those 
who share Home Tooke's opinion, that the "famona 
Folio" of 1623 is the only edition of the great Dramatist 
worth regarding, will hereafter be enabled for a few shil- 
lings to peruse his works in what will be the equal of 
that edition, in every respect except its rarity and con- 
sequent costliness. 



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Wanted bjf Mart. WtUls 4- SaOiemn, ISA. Strand, W.C. 

Xr. Kofff'a SaAKfPBAKB Hnic. 

Mr. Keighiki/** Ana Cstnci LootciAKt i 

Utmrt. Cotmr't Da. BASun Coixim, PaaroR of Etoic, m. ' 

Mr. Teowttft D«. Kakiu aho T. J, Uatbiav 

Vr. Hock On TBB Flambamd BaAMw 

Mr. GanMner't jAvn I. ano tbb BscusAim. 
art nmong Papen qfiMtertat which Vfill be jMMlthfd M our next or fid- 
lowimff mtmberf. 

R. Ifioi.It. T/u Kev. J. Prcnderfftui published in ISSEI a prow version 
qf Ou (Edipns Tyruiniu of Sophocles. 

W.H. CKar1nI.'t"tadilUlettrr,"mlliaeanr<l,KaMitmincilmlallii 
wrtleed in our Ut 8. ii. 30. VnnmUi VhrnctCt OoDimeDlaxtel on tiu 
Lift of Charle* I. , t. SSI., and //ume'< Ilirt of England. 

Antvert to othrr corrtspondentt in our next. 

p. MS. ool. 1. 1. 9. /or" dIv«nloDi"r«a<( " do- 
i,Me.a>l. f. 1. 10, Vi>r "7ouna" read "old i" (. MI. e^ 

.SndS. Iz.p. S4S. eol. 

- - , «>}" p. 408. ool. f. I. la Jitr 'roans:" read "old i" >. 

il. l.UI./or "rinoirie" read "Tlronfei" IndB. x. p. IS. ool. I. I. II. /ar 


• or •• read " after (" U «■ /or " Fort! " rend " Forfleth." 

Bom ABB QoBBiBa" u piMuhtd at moon on Friday, 

"■ - Montm * ~ . - . 


. _ roBx) is I _ __ 

Anir a^ It Mian Baaa «■• DacaT.lsaLfi^aa I 
oIICoMiioiiisAnori ron n» BMToa Monia oe aai 

** Moral ABB QoBBiBa" %a pnbtuJud at uoom on Friday, and <i mise 
foMd in MomnLT Pabti. Tkt n ^bte rip lum Ar Stamrb Cavtm Ibr 
Sm Mamlte /armanlei firtef/nm Hn_PMifken ifiiSnd^ 'iSJ^t 

i d^tes I 

Morfr Ijimjii \U.*i^ whUt mat h* 






B KOTBB • — 0»tnhri<1»P Mnmnr»hili» : Huviu>]. MithiU, and 

■ l»»r- - V ■'■• " ■"■•■■ ' ' V ■■■-■- r^n.; 

tjm 'n|io. 

r»r and 

liOCRMnn, -fi — i m- i'\»iiiii . ii.iMii, i i. - iiii._- i. it-) tUO 

tHaeofunr ofSuten Lud and Lemairi- • PMnns, M. 

M nrov NoTM 1 — HmIoI — Powderlmm Church, Devon — 
BodieUu CAUlogur — Earljr Fly-lcar Si^lbbliu?, M, 

QUERIES :—"Th.' R..!li»il." « - Foicsi. of St. Loon»rd. 
Pinr«m k-t-— ■ K — - Work — tdrtu-lilHli Cos- 


tume — K 
— Kims 


■kI^- Guard of S<'otl»nd 

and L&ni^trei*, urar 

'■•• , r — JLady FnmcM 

It of ftu Old Oit- 

Milly ** — HCTvey 

— Hkgb-hwhNl Shoe* 



naalf — iiw Jv->. >^iiiii. rviiiuii.ii- — iikgD-nwrau arnica 

QosuM WITH Anevrwaa -. — Sir WllliBtn Dugdale's CoU 
Isetkm*— Buibop Unatette '' on Buabftndry" — nridtiiie- 
toa — fimdiug Scliool — JoaooM Britaniiious — Fnlrmuua 
rihd AlvwitM— Bmuiy, 17. 

KEPLIES : — The Fliunbard Bran and its loppowd want 
of Evanrelicol Tciwhiiin. W — Shakflpcare Mturfc, M — 
StoUn Bnu» — linlli Kauiily — Tlvo Germau Church in 
Loudon — Chrisloplier Lord Hntton — Irish Kiii^^hU — 
"Moti Mortis Morti"—Rolent, Swalo, and Solway Firth 
Buthcrfbrd Familr — Ollphant— Bspiiraial Names — 
I'i "Olllcial H*ndbook \o Bray." .t". — (hurrh 
— CentonarianiaDi — Klefry oii Frederick, Prinoe of 
Waia— Toad* hnuid in Stone, ^., M. 



The frienJaliip subsisting between Dr. Mansel 
(aAerwu-da Bishop of Bristol) and Mr. Mathins, 
ronimence<l during their academical studies Bt 
Trinity College, Cambridge. While a Bachelor of 
Art«, SlanMl had rendered himself at once famous 
and I'onnidable by his satii-ical wntin^s, and no 
doubt contributed some of (he irit and humour in 
tboatt earlier productions of hL$ friend, whiuh, like 
pointed arrows, were now being shot by an unseen 
hand from the ofBcc of Thomas Beckct in the 
Strand. Our young SIcnippus had already " run 
a muck" on the character and writings of Dr. 
Richard Wataon in his Heroic EpUtU and Htraic 
AddrtMt i and it is now generally believed that he 
was indebted to his friend Mansel for many of the 
diverting notes in his gubseoueut celebrated pro- 
duction. The PwiuiU of Literature, first pub- 
lished in 1794. 

Xha following amusing epistle from Dr. Mansel 
forwarded to Mathias soon afcvr the latter 
published his Runic Odes, imittUed from the 
Norse Tongue, in th« Maimer of Mr, Gmt/. Load. 
4to, 1781: — 

"Oct 12.1788. 

" Withont all oontroversy, great U your magnanimity 
c4 natSence, and nanifold are the trials to which I put It. 
I soall n9t begin to make long eaeases for ny not writ- 

inK. neither shall t fistch apologlm for my silence from 
that witicli yo« ob9en-«<l Tor a competent time beforo your 
last letter, You >o weidoin err in thii point, and I so 
often, that mere shame and cnmmnn m/uleaty restrain ma 
from cAstirg anything of thi- vuur teeth. 

" Bears, lions, boves, sue*. - qtieoiit, horoea, 

Turki;, and riig«;amoffin>< at - ', luive engriiMed 

more of my time than I fear beietiina a clerk. But con- 
sider, you that ramble abont London, nnd have all th« 
metropolis before yon, to what b small noiik ol' (he year 
our luxuries are confined, and that we can ravel in tba 
bower of hlin only for one short dooii at fartliest. Mor- 
ri.s Ho<lson, Lawson, and those irho aeo the world, lisve 
nil that world to bound about In ; they can collect sweets 
from every clime, and bring back their thighs laden with 
the botiicd Ktorc. While \ro, delving^ in dreary celle. do 
little else Ihun contract strata upon strata of rust, while 
not oou baud of friendly nymph is stretched out to wipa 
it off. 

" You bare heard of our Emmanuel jubilee no doubt. 
All I can say is, that I was not invited : so do not a*k ma 
any particulars thereof. One circumstance, howerrr, is 
droll enough. During the very midst of the celebration 
of the Jahilse, tUst Is, while they were at the noon of 
eating, proposals were cinrulatcd' round the table for 
haying an engraving of the Master [Vr. Richard Far- 
mer] struck off as soon as possible. That circumatanca 
gave rise to tha following little wagging : — 

" Laooh Axr> BE Fat. 
■' At feaats of yort), tlie aump'lnoiis lord. 
To please the pamper'd gucat, 
Ptac'd drolb and antics at his board. 
Whose business was tg jest. 
" Fakmbk, of antiquarian dower, 
At Mildniay'sf late repoat. 
To elieer the ho![>iliib]e hour, 
Benew'd the good old taste. 

" To make men laugh as well as eat, 
Tlio merry Master knew, 
Was doubling the luxurious treat, 
And haartier welcome too. 

" As to the eating pari, of that 
Good plenty was at hand, 
Twelve bocks in larder, firm aud fat. 
From good Lord VVestuiorelaud. 

" Melons and pine<i from Steevens came, 
(Steerens, himself a feast !) 
Huge hampers of outlandish gams, 
And tartlai ready drest. 
" To crown tba whole with one good laagh, 
Tha Master, merry elf, 
Hands round proposals to engrare 
A likeness of himself. % 

* At this time the theatricals of Stirbitch fair had 
powerful patronage in the cumbinalion room of Em-. 
manuti, wliere the routine of performance was regularly 
settled, und where the charms of the bottle were oarljr 
deserted for the plessurcs of the *ock and bualim. In the 
boxes of this litlle theptrc the Master of Emmsnuol ("O 
rare Richard Farmer." miolh Dr. Dibdin) was the Arbiter 
FMpantiarum, and presi'led with as much dignity an* 
unalfectcd ease «s within the walls of his own collega. 
He was regularly surrounded by a large party of con- 
genial friends and able critics, among whom Isaac Reed 

and Georgft Steevens were constantly to be found. 
t Sir Walter Mildmay was the founder vi Emmamial 

Ooilage, A.II. 1^4. 
t An excellent portrait, cQEta-wAVj t."ftsAfJ«»« ««■ 




[2>«" S. X Jolt 21. '(SO. 

•• I know not how to act with regard to oor most ex- 
cellent and valuable friend Rennell.* Snrh ringular and 
presiaing invitnlions Imve I just receiveil from him to go 
to Wiiii-hcater, lliat I am tempted to put ihein forthwith 
into ex«cution. Never was anvthitig; more warm and 
more kind. I am Ihc more inclined to thi4 as my decauic 
occupatiou's o\>r. Twenty ^uod pnuiiils, a» Jeniiny eaid, 
uclually to be resigned. I nm this nn'ment going to the 
Doctor, who always thinks and ajwiirs talks of you. as 
well (IS most of those at pre*ent resident in Trinity Col- 
let;'', who ileclarw, ami I tiriiily believe from the siuierity 
»r their suuLs that they shall never have a more valuable 
Fellotr again. 

" Toun for erer, 

" W. L. Ma»»bi_" 

That the noeticnl "little wagoing" wns frojii 
tlm pun nf Dr. Miiiisol will scarcely admit of a 
(|)i<>rv. IJiit Ikiw iiiuuli soever he may have been 
iUkiiibcd by fjooil Dr. Fnnuer's jimpcsals lor hiji 
own liki^nc'Ss, he eertainly, when Bishop of Bristol 
and Muster of Trinity College, Cambridge, inaiii- 
I'ested uncoiuinoii in another porlruit — 
thut of Dr. Minipel hiiniielf! A friend, who in 
the early part of the present century wiw a Cam- 
bridge undergriicldiitc, rc<nenibcr» that once goinjj 
into aeerlnin shop near St. Mary's, liis eye !ip;titert 
on a very well-executed portrait of Hi.-hop Man- 
scl. Noting \xh ni'iprovid, and profiling by the 
mollia tempora fundi, the proprii-tor of the shop 
|N>lilely plueed in my fneiid'« li:in(l a printed do- 
uument, which proved lo contiiin "Proposals" lor 
ail cngravini; of the said portrait; wht-reupun, in 
the verdancy of his novieiatc, my friend being 
himself a " Trinity man," Bct down his mime na u 
subscriber. " Aii, Sir," said the prints<dler, " the 
Mftstei* of your coUc-ge will be sure to sec it ; for 
every day at the time when the coltc^'ea are at 
dinner, and there is next to nobody in the streets, 
bis Lordshi)) comes here with his two daughters to 
read the names of the subscribers ! " 

J. Ykowkll. 



On loth Feb. 1610-11, Samuel Collins was 
instituted to the vicarage of Braintree in E.'sex, 
on the presentation df Robert Lord Rich. New- 
court (^Repert. ii. 89.) took tLid vicar to have been 
the famous Samuel Collins, nfterwards Provost of 
King's College, and Regius Profcsiwr of Divinity 
in the University of Cambridge. Benthani {Hiut. 
Ely Cathetlnd, 261.) calls the provost vicar of 
Braintree, Ilarwood (Alumni Etunensgt, 44.), and 
Russell {Memiiir of Bp. Andrewea, 449.), term him 
rector of that piirish. Dr. Bli.<s was evidently of 

the B«T. Richard Farmer, U.U., frdni the original in 
Emmanael College, is given io DibUin's Typographiecd 
Aidiouilivi, iii. 503, 

* L>r. Thomas Rennell, Dean of Winchester, and Mas- 
ter of the Temple, who probably furnished some uotea to 
TSi PvttdU of LUtraiure. 

opinion that be beld the vicartij^ of that placo^H 
(Wood's Alhen. Oxon. ed. Bliss, it. 664. n , whcrC^H 
Bmintre is misprinted Brainbre.) Now the (iict 
is that Dr. Samuel Collins, who had been d« 
prived of his provost^iliip and his pri>fe!<sorshi| 
ibr bis loyalty, died at Cambridge 16 Sept. 165|J 
whereas Samuel Collins, Vicar of Braintree, siirj 
vived till 2 May, 1667. (Wright's Eisex, ii. '2-2.} 

There were three contemporary physiciani 
named Samuel Collins. It is not surprising M 
find some confusion respecting them. We 
endeavour to distinguish them. 

(1.) Samuel Ch)1Iiiis, ddest son of Samuel Col^ 
lins. Vicar of Braintree, was adniittcd of Corpu 
Christi College, Cambridge, in 1635, but wiui na 
luatriciilnted, and took no degree in thut Univer 
sity. Wc presume that he wiis the^nraiicl Col- 
lins, M.D. of Padua, who was incorporated at 
Oxford, 5 May, 16.59. (WtKid's Faxli, ed. Blis.>s 
ii. 221.) In Braintree church is a brass plate 
against the wall of the chancel above an altar 
toiiib inclosed in a grate with the following in- 
scription : — 

" This grnte wa.i ordereil to be eet up by the last will 
and testament of S<imuel Collins, late doctor of phyaick, 
eldest son of Sir. Samuel Collins, here under burleil, who 
>erved about nine years as principal phyxlciiiu to the 
great Czar, enipernr of Russia, and after his return from 
thence, taking a journey into France, died at Paris, Oct. 
26, 1670, being the fifly-lirsl of his age, 

" Mors requies peregritmntiljiis." 

From this inscription there caunot, we think 
be much doubt that he is the author of 

" The History of the present State of Russia in a L«t 
to a Friend at London; written Ipv an eminent Pei 
residing at the Great Czar's Court of Mosco, for tfao ■[ 
of nine years i Illustrated with manv Copper Plati 
Lend. I2mo. 1671." (Cf. Betratptetiue 'Seviae, xlv. 82.) 

It appears, moreover, from the Preface that 
author died before the work was published. 

(2.) Samuel Collins, son of Daniel Colli 
Vice-provost of Eton, and Rector of Cowley 
born at Tring in Hertfordshire ; educated 
Eton^ scholar of King's College 1634; FcUo 
1637; B.A. 1638; M.A. 1642; admitted M.: 
4 Oct. 1648 ; Fellow of New College, Oxfo: 
1650; incorporated M.D. at Oxford 11 hl\ 
1650; Registrar of the College of Physician* 
1682; died 1685; buried at Cowley. (Lysons* 
Euviront, v. 15.) To him Wood {Fa.iti, cd. 
Bliss, ii. 162, 163.) erroneously ascribes the abote 
book on Russia; stAting, although the work is 
anonymous, that it was published under tlie name 
of Dr. Sara. Collins of the College of Physicin 
in London, and Fellow of King's Coll. Harwoi 
(..4/umni Etonetises, 236), Lysnns (ubi rupra 
and others, have been evidently misled in this 
matter by Wood. 

(3.) Samuel Collins, of Trinity College, Cam- 
bridge; scholar 163—.; B.A. 1636-9; Fellow 
16—.; M.A. 1642; probably M.D. at Padua 


«^ 3. X. Jur.Y 81. '60,] 



lAugust, 1651, and incorporated at Oxford 8 May, 
] 1 652 (Wood's Fu.ili, ed. Bliss, ii. 172.); incc.r- 
|»rtr«tod M.D. from Oxford at Crtinbridgc, 2 July, 
I67S; author of, a Syttetn of Atialomy, Lond. 
■voU. fo. 1G85 ; Censor of the Colleire of Phy- 
sicians 1700; mentioned in Gurth's Dispensary; 
[died April, 1710, «;;cd 92. To his memory in 
linscribed the view of the interior of the nave of 
l6t. Paul's in Dujidale's History of that church. 
iTba plate being dated 1658 is calculated griev- 
[«usly to mislead as to the time of the death of this 
'Dr. Samuel Collins. 

Granger makes the author of The System of 
I Anatomy identical witli the nulhor of The Present 

■ Stale of Runtia. Wood, "Watt, iintl Lowmles 
teem to have been well aware that they were dif. 
fereni persons, although Wood is certainly inis- 
tftken in attributing the Inlter work to Samuel 
Collins, II. D. of Kinj^'s College, and probably so 
in considering the author of the former work to 
be the M.D. who was incorporated at O.tfoi-d in 
1659. , 

We have been led to make ttie investigations, 
the results of which appear in this Note, in con- 

Is^juence of a letter from a friendly correspondt^nt, 
whi> was under the impression that the Synle^n of 
A'lult/mi/ was by the Registrar of tlie College of 
Physicians. C. H. & Thompson Cooper. 

I forward for insertion in " N, & Q." a poem 
attributed to Burns, on what authority I know 
not ; nor do I know whetber it has ever appeared 
in print : — 

" The Jingltr. 

L** It was you, Grisly, you 
First wanned this heart, I trow ; 
Took my stomacli frsa my foo<l, 
Put tbe ilevit in my blood, 
Maile my lioingti out of season, 
Made my tbinkings out of reason; 
It was you, Crisly Inns, 
Broaght the jin^ter to this pass. 
•• An' Cristy. raiih. I 90« 
By the twinkle o* thy b« 
Aa' Criity lass, I Rn 
Bv a soiiielbing here within ; 
That tho' yu've ta'en anitber, 
An' tho' ye be a mither. 
There's an ember in us yet. 
Might kinille — were it fit. 
" Then f»re ye weel, my fair one, 
All' fare ye weel, luy rare one, 
I once thouf^ht, my bonny leilily, 
That thy bairns woulil call nie UaJUy. 
But that lura' day's gone Uy — 
Sue happy may ye lie; 
Alt' caiily may ye be, 
Wi' the man that sou'J been inc." 
also one by the lamented J. G. Lockharf, 
which has never, I believe, been published. 

<• Waltnn-on-Thamai, Angtut, I84'.>. 

" Here, early to bed, lies kind William Maginn. 
Who, with genius, wit, learning, life's trophies to wlu. 
IIiul neither ^reat Lord, nor rich cit of his kin, 
Nor discretion to set biinsvlf up as to tin : 
So hi.t portion soon spent, like the poor heir of Lynn, 
lie turned aatbor, 'ere yet tliera wag beard on bis chin ; 
And whoever was out, or whoever was in. 
For your Tories bis fine Irish brains he would spin ; 
Who received prose and rhyme with a promising grin, 
' Qo n head, you queer f»h, and more power to your fln,' 
Bat to save from starvation stirred never a pin. 
Light for long was his heart, though bis breeches ware 

KIse his acting, for certain, was equal to Quin. 
Hot at he was beat, and songht help of the bin, 
(Ail the same to the Doctor from claret to gin), 
Which led swiftly to gnol, witii consumption therein. 
It was much, where the bones rattled looie in tha skin, 
He got leave to die here, out of Babylon's din. 
Barring drink, and the girls. I ne'er'heard of a sin, 
Many worse, better few, tlian bright, broken Msginn." 


There has existed ia Scotland, iiumcmorially, 
the action of Cessio Bonontm, by which, on sur- 
rendering bis property to his creditors, a debtor 
gets liberation fiom iinprisoniuenL. It w;ls of 
old accompanied by the provision that the bank- 
rupt, or dyvoir (jrleBoir), us he was called in 
Scotch law language, should wear it dress thence 
named the dyeoura hnbil. The Court of Ses- 
sion passed vnriaus enactments on (be subject, 
and prescribed tn pjirticulnr thst it should be 
" a coat or unper giirmcrtt which is to cover 
the party's dollies, body, and arms ; whereof the 
one half is to be of a yellow and the other of 9 
brown colour ; and a cape or hood, ivliich they 
are to wear on their head, partie-coloured ns S:ild 
is, witb uppermost hose on his leg* half brown, 
half yellow, conform to a pattL-rn given to the 
Magistrates of Edinburgh." This dress wjis re- 
quired to be assumed before the liberation was 
allowed ; and it was provided thit " the Magis- 
trates cause take the Dyvour to the mercat cross 
betwixt 10 and 12 o'clock in the forenoon with 
the foresaid habit, where he is to sit upon the 
Dyvour Stone (he space of une hour, nnd then to 
be : and ordains the dyvour tn wenr the 
said habit in nil time thereafter: an 1 in case he 
be found wanttng or disguising the samen, he shall 
lose the benefit of tho Bunoriun." 

Tliese ennclments were iim>le at different periods 
of the seventeenth century; but by liie latest (in 
168S), the dress was allowed to be cligpensed with 
"in cas'>s of iiniocetii luisliirtiine, liijniilly fclearly) 
proven," .■Vfipr this the enfnrei-iiient of the law 
was waved in all ruses excepting three, which oc- 
ruired in tliL' iniihUe of List century, where the 
<lebtf>r3 had been engaged in smuggling. Up to 
the reign of WiUiam lY., \\ON«tNW, >«>&.«». v!w4 



[*»« s. X. Jvvt 21. "ea 

" dyvour's habit" was abolished bj statute, a dis* 
pensation with it was formally moved for to the 
Court in every case hj the bankrupt's counsel, 
and was alwajs included in the warrant of libera- 

A similar law appears to have existed in France 
and Italy, and is alluded to by Boileau Despreaux 
in his first Satire, line 14. et seq. : — 

" L'snftrme en nn cachot le reste de sa vie 
On que d'an bonnet vtrt le salaUire affront 
FMtrisse las lauriats qui lui convrent le tttmV 

In a note on these lines .in the Amsterdam edi- 
tion of Boileau (1729), it is said that the wearing 
"un bonnet ou chapeau rouge on vert," was "pour 
marquer que celui qui fait cession de biens est 
devenu pauvre par sa folic ;" but that the usage 
had been for some time discontinued in France. 




" Staten Land," says Malte Brun, " a detached 
island, which may be considered as forming a part 
of the archipelago of Terra del Fuego, was dis- 
covered by Lemaire." {Univ. Oeog., vol. v. Edinb. 
1825.) " It was discovered in 1616 br the Dutch 
navigator Lemaire." (Keith Johnston s Dictionary 
of Geography, 1855.) Such is the current state- 
ment. Is it correct? In a tract published at 
Arnheim in 1618, and entitled " Warhaffte Bes- 
chreibung der Wunderbarlichen Rayse und Schif- 
fart, so Wilhelm Schout von Horn, auss Hollandt 
nach Suden gethan, und was gestalt er hinter der 
Magellanischen £ngc, ein newe und bevor unbe- 
kannte Durchfahrt in die Sudersee gefunden," I 
find a statement bearing on this discovery which I 
translate as follows : — 

" On the 11th [of February, 1616] there was ^spensed 
to each man three times as much wine as usual, irom joy 
that we had found this new passage ; and at the vene- 
ment solicitation of James Le Maire the Commissary, it 
was decided by the Council, that this passage should be 
called Maire's strait or passage, aWiough it ought rather 
to have been called William Schout'$ pauagt, for he had 
cotUributtd the most to il> liiicorery." 

James Le Maire was the son of Isaac Le Maire, 
a wealthy merchant of Amsterdam, who was a 
principal agent in fitting out the expedition ; he 
went out in the capacity of chief merchant (Obrist 
Kauffman), and seems to have had nothing to do 
with the management of the ship. This was 
entrusted to William Cornelius Schout, an ex- 
perienced mariner, who was chief patron or ship- 
master (Obrist Patron oder Schiffherr). To hun 
therefore the credit of the discovery is due, though 
the passage bears the name of Lemaire. If Schout 
did not get j ustice in the matter of the name, it is 
too bad to refuM it to him in the matter of the 
discovery also. ,W. L. A. 

jUfnsr ttatti, 

TlAVior. — Webster derives this word from the 
Welsh, "herlawd, a stripling; harlodes, a hoiden; 
a word composed of her, a push or challenge, and 
llau^d, a lad." 

But another and more curious derivation will 
be found in the following extract from The Life 
of King William, the Firtt, simamed Cowpuror, 
written by I. H. (J. Hayward.) Imprinted at 
London by R. B., anno 1613, and republished in 
the 3rd vol. of The Harleian Miscellany, pp. 115 — 
168, London'edit., royal 8vo., 1809 : — 

" Bobert, Duke of Normandy, the sixth In descent 
from RoUo, riding through FalaJs, a town in Normandy, 
espied certain young persons dancing near the way. And, 
OS lie staid to view awhile the manner of their disport, he 
fixei] his eye especially upon a certain damsel named 
Arlotte, of mean birth, a skinner's daughter, who there 
danced among the rest The frame and comely carriage 
of her body, the natural beauty and graces of her coun- 
tenance, the simplicity of her rural both behavioar and 
attin>, pleased him so well, that the same night he pro- 
^curtd her to be brought to his lodging; where he begat 
of her a son, who afterwards was named William. 

" I will not defile my writing with rnemory of some 
laecivious behaviour which she Is reported to have need, 
at such time as the Duke approached to embrace her. 
Aud donbtfiil it is, whether upon special note of immo- 
tlf sty in herself, or whether upon hate towards her MB, 
th« English afterwards adding an aspiration to her namt 
(according to the natural manner of their pronouncing), 
tenutid every unchaste woman Harlot." — p. 119. 

In a note on the following page it is remarked : 
"... after the Conqueror obtained the crown of 
England, he often signed his grants with this sub- 
scription — William Battard ; thinking it no abai^ 
ment either to his title or reputation." * Ebio. 

Vllle-Marie, Canada. 

PowDERHAM Cbuecb, Dbvok. — It is Tcry de* 
sirabie for the ascertainment of accuracy in archi- 
tectural details, to chronicle the exact date of 
iudividual specimens of early times, where such 
can be had. Among Dr. Ducarel's Abstracts 
from the different Volumes of the Registers of the 
See of Canterbury, preserved in the British Mu- 
Bcum, MSS. Addit. 6082, 6083, in his Synopsis of 
Archbishop Morton's Register, is an entry which 
asgi>rns the exact date, to a large portion at least, 
of the structure of Powderham church in Devon- 
shirs, in a memorandum of the will of the Lady 
Margaret Courtenay : — 

" Corpus ad sepeliendum, in the parissbe Chirch of 
Pawderham where my husband was buried : fur my hus- 
Imnd and I made there the newe He, and also the body of 
Ihe Chirch att cure owen cost and charge, except that I 
bar! of the Parissh there to the help of the said bilding 
vlii'i. Dat mense Julli, a.d. 1487." 

H. E. 

B0D1.EIA.N Cataloqdb. — In the Bodleian Cata- 
logue (ii. 408.), the authorship of two works is by 

[ ' On the derivation of Harlot, see " N. & Q." l" S. x 
207, 411. 494— Ed.] 



[xntstake oscribeil to Dr. John Infills, Biahop of Nora 
I Scotia, viz. Vindication nf (ihrintiim Tnith, and 
1 Defence of Church Kitahliihmenta. The aulhor 
[of tbesc works >va!i not tliu bishop, but a divine 
of the sauie name — the late Dr. Juhn Inglig, one 
of the Oilaiiitera of Edinburgh. G. J. 

Kabi-y Ftt-LKAr ScftiniiLtKo. — In a yolnine 
licholas de Lyrn, " Postollasuiier Pentateuch," 
Bg the Ro^al M8S., is the following distich in 
early hand : — 

" Qai svare lib's pViosis ne'lit honnrS, 
Illlus a nianib3 p'cal Istc I'bcr;" 

trhiob probably should be read, 

" Qai Mirare libru precioaii netcit bonorem, 
Illiiu a mouibu' git nrocul isU libor." 

A. A. 
Poets' Corn«r. « 



stations of Lord Relgrave's quotation. 

IV. By Lord Murningtou niid Lord GniKam. 
" With li^litest heels oppoied to hearicsl head. 
To Lord Atridoa Lord Achillea said." 

Which is which, nnd who Were they ? 
IX. By Mr. Pitt. 
" FnuilK with rage uprose the fierce Achillea. 
' How comfortably calm,' said Nestor Willi*." 
Wniis, the mad doctor? " Coinfortttbly calra," 
-when used ? 

XI. By Mr. Bastard. 

" ' The Trojan 1 oppoae,' h« said, ' 'lis tros j ' 
* But I abuse und bate Atrides too." 
Bastard, M.P. for Devon? What is known of 
his politics? In The Journal of the Rt. Hon. Henry 
Dwulivt, MiiTch 12, 1787, R. p. 523., is, — 

** Bastard Turgot his last abaieof I'itt and talked a^ain 
about confldence ; but was aifoiost the Bill — what's con • 
ftdeoM witbout a vole ? " 

XII. By Lord Fouconberg. 

•• Knrsged Achilles never would agree, 

A ' petty vote,' a ' nienial alavo ' was he," 
Who was he ? Where did he use those phrases ? 

XIII. By Mons. Aldcrmnn Le Mesurier. 
■* By ear, Achille be say, I make a you 

I'arier aooder language, ventre blue 1" 
Was he one of the Jersey Le Mesuricrs ? Did 
he really sj>eak French-Enjjlish ? Dundas {Ditiry, 
March lO, K. 520.) says,— 

Sum le nam dt ramilie *m JiMt$e oh alioitdt ' — ctirscd 

" Lb Miyiuricr Wt;ed our attention to a tittle French 
■| fa ' ■ 

IV. By Lord Westcote. 
•• Pliant and prompt in i-rane-iieckM parves to wheel, 
Achillea ruMi, auil ttirHc<t upon hi* beel." 

W^bo was he ? Did be change sides ? 

XV. By Mr. Wilbraham Bootle. 
" In oily terras be nrf^ed tlie cliiers to peace. 

For none was more than be the friend to Gr*a$l." 
Wiio ? Was he a llussiu' merchant ? 
allusion to tallow, or ll.Utery ? 

XVI. Dy Lord Bayhnm. 

" His eonscion« hnt well lined with borrowed prose 
The lubber chief in sulky mien arose. 
I'llttte with pride his long-pent sileoce broke, 
And, could he bat have read, he might baTospokt." 

Who f When did he break down ? 

XIX. By Lord Fauconberg. 
"Achilles swore bo felt by no means hurt 

At puttio); on great Agameoinon'a abirt. 
lie prized the honour, did not raind the trouble, 
Ann only wished the profit had been donble." 
Who ? \\hat office did ho get ? Who held it 
before ? 

XX, By Lord Winehelsea, 

" With formal mien, and viiuif;e most rorlorn. 
The courtly hero ipoke his tilmt scorn." 

Is any p<irtr.ait of Lord Winehelsea known F 
Wlien did lie such language ? 
. XXI. By Lord Sydney. 

"The cliief, unknowing; bow he should begin. 
First darts around, tb' opposing ranks to thin, 
The !iglitning» of liis eye, the terrors of his chip.' 

Any portrnil known ? There are other allusions 
to his personal appearance : "Tiirice hatli Sydney 
cocked his chin.' {The JncaiUation, R. 520.) 

The full title of the edition from which I quote 

* The Rolliad in two parts. Probationary Odss for tha 
Laureatsbip, Political Eclogues, ami Miscellanies, with 
Criticisms and lllustratiills. I/mdon. RIdgway, 1812." 

To avoid prolixity I have referred to the voluma 


Garrick Club. 

FoHEBT OP St. Leokabd, StJSSBX. — Andrew 
Boord in his Dimk of Knowledge says, — 

" In Ibe Forest of Saint Loonanla in Soutlucx there 
doth never singe NiglitiiiBttle, altbougUe the Foreste 
roande abonle in tyme of the yeare Is rcplenytlieil with 
NightvnRales; they wvl syng round aboat« the Forest* 
.ind never within the precincto of the Forest) a* divers 
Kepers nf the Foraate and other credible persons dwellyiig 
there dyd shew me." 

Can any of your readers say whether the night- 
ingales of St. Leonard's" Forest are still dumb, or 
whether any such tradition as Andrew Boord re- 
cord* be stdl remaining among the older of the 
native inhabitants 'i "• ''• 

KTBTMntT OB Kermkry Work.— Reference is 
made to haiiaps and washinjj-bjtsins of Kyryniyry 
or Keniwry work in Our Kuiflith Hume. May 1 
inquin the tneaning of the term in decorative 




ts^ki. JotT?!. 

IsRAKUTisR Costume. — What was the form 
ami Colour of the dress usually worn by the Is- 
raelites of the niicline class about 1491 b c, or at 
the time of their departure from Egypt? Had 
^he outer jjnrment sleeve?, and whut was the 
covering for the head ? and which are the best 
illustrated works on the subject ? AntiquabiA-N. 

KoYAL Ahcuebs : QuEBs'g Body Guard of 
Scotland. — Cao you inform me when this regi- 
ment wtM 6r8t embodied ? wbnt woji its origin ? 
what ita duties, and privileges are ? and uow 
members arc admitted ? Judging from the full 
dress uniforms of the present members, it must 
have been a crack corps once of a time. 


Stgk» at MoMKSBiiATB, Cheshire, and Lan'q- 
TRBB, HEAR WiGAN. — There is a. long story about 
the si;rn at Monkshenth in Cheshire, which does, 
or did, represent a monk, a countfyman, n white 
horse, and a cavern. Will some correspondent 
give it P There is, I presume, aleo a, tradition 
(though I never could get at it) about a sign at 
Langtree, near Wigan, which represents a smart 
man in a tight suit of green, on a white charger, 
apparentlff pulling his plumed hat very reveren- 
tially ofF to a Spanish dog in the foreground. 
The subject of signs since the establishment of 
beershops has become a hopeless one. There is 
no end to the quaint and curious devices which 
record some evanescent and purely interest 
of the day, and which even the next landlord who 
takes the house and keeps the sign is often quite 
unable to explain. r. P. 

JoBM Ketse Sberwin, iiNOBAVEB. — Where 

may I find a complete list of the works of J. K. 
Sherwin, "engraver to his Majesty and the Prince 
of Wholes, an artist of the most uncommon abili- 
ties," who died 20th September, 1790 ? In u bio- 
graphical sketch in Walker's Selection of curious 
Articlet from the Gentleman's Magazine, vol, iv. 
p. .165., fourteen historical subjects and twelve 
portraits are enumerated; but certainly tlic list 
(which, as the writer of the article observes, "will 
perhaps prove useful to amateurs and i^ollectnrs of 
arints ") is not complete, innstimch as no mei)tirin 
IS made of the portrait (painted by Hamilton) of 
" David Liv Touche, Esi^., of Bellevue, county 
of Wicklow, n gentlemiiu whose well-known cha- 
racter and conduct, through a long and active 
life, makes any eulogium on cither unnecessary." 
I possess a very fine impression of the portrait in 
question. Adhba. 

Ladt Fkawces Bbasdo?). — What is the date 
of tbis lady's marriage witli Henry Grey, 3rd 
Marijuis of Dorset. The dates of the births of 
their children, Jane, Katherine, and Mary ? On 
wh:it ground was Dorset's fint wife Catharine 
Fitzolan repudiated ? P. R. 

Robert Hedmatre, of Richmnndshirc, wiu 
mitted a pensioner of S. John's College, Ci 
bridge, 12 Oct. 1572, and tt scholar on the Lai 
Margaret's Foundation 6 Nov. 1573. He p 
ceeded B. A. 1575-6 ; was elected a Fellow on t 
Lady Margaret's Foundation, 1577; commune 
M. A. 1579 ; was appointed sublcctor of his ci 
lege 12 Oct. the same year, and philosophy 1 
turer 6 July, 1582. In 1586 he was creai 
LL. D., and in 1588 became chancellor of 
diocese of Norwich. He died .? Aug. 1625, 
seventy-four, and was buried at Hitcham in Noi 
folk, where is a monument with an inscripiii 
terming him a uative of Lancashire. At the s 
place was buried Dorotbr, his widow, who died 
Oct. 1645, tet. eighty. It ai>pears to us exci 
vngly probable that he is the author of Henru 
Quinti IHtutrissimi Anglomm iftjfM ffislorin, Mf 
Trin. Coll. Camb., O. I. 47., printctl with ot 
pieces bv Mr. Charles Augustus Cole, Lond., 8 
1858. We think also that the nobleman to wh( 
that work is dedicated was Henry Hastings, Ei 
of Huntingdon, K.G., Lord President of the Noi 
who died at York 14 Dec. 1595. 

C. H. & Thompso.x Coopb 


Fragment or an Oij) Romakck. — On 

centiy examining a copy of the iSuruw OrJi, 
edited by Master Clerfee, Chantor of King's C 
Cambridge, and printed by Pynson in 1501, 1 foui 
three fly-leaves of a book of earlier date, r 
ing which I should be glad to be informed ; 
therefore, I subjoin a passage by which it may 
not be identified with the romance of Sir Ouy. 
The type is of the Gothic character : — 

*■ Wyth that ttie lumbardla fledd« away 

Guy Guy and heraude acd terrey pfay, 

CUued after theyni gode wono, 

Tliey atowe and take many one, 

Ttie Lumbardis madii aory crye. 

For iKey were on the worse partvc^ 

Of this toke duke otton gode hede, 

And fledde to an hyll f;<xl<> sped*; 

That none sued of theym echona^ 

But ayr Uoniude of ar demo alone, 

Uemudt! hym suc4 u» an egyr lyon 

And ever lie cryed on duke ottuo, 

Heraude had of hym no double, 

Nor he sawe no man ferre aboate 

But odIv tbeymselfe two." 

E. P. 
The OxroBD Act. — Can miy of your Oxfor 
correspondents ohlijje me by explaining wlut ' 
the meaning of " The Act at Oxibrd ?" What j 
the origin of the term ? Was it formerly anplie 
to what is now called "The Commemoration F 
and if so, when did the appellation full into dii 

use? lOMOKAMC 

••Aunt Sallt." — Who is "Aunt Sully ?" 
has been suggested that she is nearly related 
" My Uncle.'^ Vbdbtt 




FT Famtt.y. — Tbe following couplet oc- 
aorae verses, written by Gay in 1720, en- 
Mr. Pope's Welcome (Vom Greece " : — 

[errey, fair of fice, I mirk full well, 

hw, youth's youngest djugliler, sweet Lepell." 

e seems to infer that the first person 

to in tbese lines was Lady Ilervey (that 

dau;;hter of Brig.- Gen. Nicholas Lepell), 

ie latter wzis a younger sister, whose 

e Croker, in his sketch of Lord Hervey's 

ild apparently deny. If tradition, how- 

eaks truly, Anne, sister-in-law of Lord 

married in 1721 Mr. Sniniiel Weaver, 

gentleman. During the succeeding year 

left England with his wife, and became a 

)f If ew York ; thoujjh he maintained for 

ne thereafter a familiar correspondence 

Hervcy family. Can these statements be 


letter to Lady Mary Worlley, dated May 
, Lord Uervey'nienliotjs the recent deaths 
nother (Countess of Brititol), and his 
in-law (Mrs. I..epell). Is it known when 
r died, or what mav have been her maiden- 
Was Gen. Nicholas LcpcEl a relative of 
I Lepell, Eb(i., tiie Lord Proprietor of 
md, who died Oct. 8, 1742."* G. 

lev. Cbab. Fkmbbokb, author of an £ng- 
iBlatioQ of the Pronutheu* of .£schylus, 
1844. Does the title-pnge of this book 
of what Uniyersity Mr. Pembroke was a 
? R. Irglis. 

1UEI.ED Shoes. — I have seen a pair of 
•eled shoes " that bclungcd to a female 
, who died about forty years apo, aged 
nety. The shoes were only used on state 
I (as the lady mixed in high Irish society 
ly) ; they are of the finest polished bronze 
leautifully formed and richly embroidered 
the heels nearly four inches high. When 
ch shoes introduced into fashion?' and 
I the fashion cease Y Tbe shoes must have 
ncomtnonly uncomfortable." 

S. Redmond. 

UvNTiKo. — In the London Mugaxine for 
33, vol. ii. p. 370., there appears among 
hs that of "Mr. Graves the City Hunta- 
4fl this would imply that tbe Corporation 
on kept a regular hunting egtabhshment, 
some render of "N. & Q." would inform 
e the kennel wns situate, and other parti- 
iUting to the pursuit of the chase by the 

iware that John Stow (Survey of London 
tmimter, Loitd. 1720, bk. i. p. 25.) tnen- 
t in the olden tiute, on one occasion, the 
ayor (Uarper, 1^62), visiting the water 

conduita, which he did annually, wns with a good 
number entertained, and after dinner they went to 
hunting the hare. There was a great cry for n 
mile, and at length the hounds killed him at the 
end of St. Giles's. At his death there was great 
hallooing, with blowing of horns. Tally-ho. 

Paoduswhkbls. — By whom were pnddlewheels 
first applied to the propulsion of vessels? Who 
invented the wheel with "feathering" or move- 
able float ? Delta. 

Leoerdart Paiktino. — I have an old painting 
in which a saint, with a trowel in one hand and n 
lily and passion-flower in the other, is followed by 
a wolf bearing two panniers heavily loaded with 
j stones. Can any of your correspondents help me 
to the legend ? The open countenance and high 
forehead show that it cannot be St. Francis. 


Sib W1LI.TA.M Dlodale's Collections. — In 
the Life of Sir William Dugdale, prefixed to his 
Hiftory of St. Pants (2nd ed. by Illavnard, Lond. 
1716), it is said that that indefatigable antiquary, 
iti the year 1C41, anticipating the stonn of the 
Revolution, accompanied with ^Ir, William Sedg. 
wick, " a skilful arms painter," made draughts of 
all monumeiits, nrmj, copying inscriptions, arm.<i 
in windows, &c. in the cathedral of St. Paul's and 
Westminsl«r Abbey. And also in the cathedral 
churches of Peterborough, Ely, Norwich, and Liu- 
coin, with many at her collegiate and parochial 
churches. These draughts arc said to be in the 
possession of the now (1716) Lord Hittton, being 
tricked by the said Mr. Sedgwick, then servant of 
Sir Christopher Hutton, at whose instance they 
were made. Do these collections now esi^t, nnd 
where are they deposited? G. W. W. Minns. 

[These manuscript collections of Sir VVra. Dugdale are 
now in tbe Asbmolean Museum, OxTortt. A small 4to. 
volume was publisbed in 1692, by Ilishop Gibson, under 
thi> title or Libmrum ManmenpUmim in dunbuM insifnibut 
BibliothKh; altera Teni«onian«, Londtni ; allera Dugda- 
llsDB, Oxunii ; Catalogui; und reprinted at the end of 
Hamper's Life, Diary, and CoTrttpondenct of Sir Williiim 
Dugdale, iio. 1827.] 

Bishop Gbostestb " on Hcsbahdet." — This 
bishop wrote a work " on husbandry," or rather 
translated it from the French. Wanted to know 
bjf whom it was written originally, where the ori- 
ginal MS. was preserved, or whether it was ever 
printed in the French language ? iTHURtrL. 

[Dr. Samuel Pegge, in his Life of this prelate, upealis 
of Ibla work tn Bltll extant in mannsL-ript. He saya, 
"Regulie Agricultural per menses di^vala, Gallic^. A. 3. 
and it is ascribed (o the Bishop in that (mm by tbe old 
catalogue of the PeterliorouBh library, 'Litter (luivocatur 
Hoiulondrie, Gallitfc.' (Gunton, p. 224.) But one would 
suppose from what follows that \a ttft.4 V\m»\»X'»^'<>- «^'<- 





of French into English. • A Treatise of Hnsbatndrr, which 
Maystcr Uroshedc, (ORietimc Bishop of Lincoln, made 
•ml translated out of French in English, cap. xvL Pr. 
The Fader in hj-s old nge sayth . . . 4to.' Tanner, who 
does not tell where the book is. (See Ames's 7\/pog. 
Anlia. i>. 108.) Among Uishop More's books in the 
Public Library of Cambridge is a 4to. ' Buk« of Hns- 
bandry.' rnder this title on a scroll is the cut of a 
person standing in a wood or park, giving orders to a 
woodman who ia felling n tree. It contains eighteen 
leaven. ' Here begynnetli a tratyse of Husbandry which 
Vayster tiroiihcde,' iiomtyme Bishop of Lyncoln, mada 
and translated it out of Frenshe into Englyshc, which 
ttcheth all manner of men to goveme theyr londs, tene- 
ments, and dcmene!>, ordinatly as the chapytres evi- 
dently is hlicwed.' It concludes with, 'Here endeth the 
boke of Huabandrv, and of plantynge and graffynce of 
trees and vynes.' No date or printer mentioned. (Her- 
bert's Ames's Tgpog. Antiq. p. 217.) Perhaps (adds 
Pegge) the Bishoji first wrote it in French, and then 
transUtetl it into Knglish ; however, somcbotW rendorad 
it into Latin it sPenis, 'De Agrietdlura (Tnuislatio), 
lib. i. I'ater wtati' decrepita. MS. Coll. Magdal. Oxon. 
57. oliin in Bibl. Monost. Syon. in Bibl. Westmin.'"] 

Bridlington. — Tn an old MS. of the fifteenth 
century, being n discourse between the natural 
enmity between Knglond and France, occurs the 
following passage : — 

" For Bridlington amonge all other in the verses of bis 
profesy off Englond and off Frauoce saithc thus : 

" ' I.egifer institnit terras habnisse sorores 
Quando mors capnlt sine nat' prog^nitores _ 
Kunquam naturam mutatuit ad hue sua jnrit.' " 

When did Bridlington flourish, and where may 
I find the passage ? as I have some doubts of the 
above Latinity. Abeacadabba. 

[John do Bridlington was educated at Oxford, and 
retired into the monastery of the Canon Itegulars at 
Bridlington in Vorkshire, and was subsequently elected 
Prior of the same. He died, aged sixt}', in 137!), and was 
canonised, lie wrote tliree books of Cfamuna Vaticiiialia, 
in which he pretends to foretel many accidents that 
should happen to England. MS3. Digb. Bibl. Bodl. 89 
and l&i. There arc also Verm Vatieinalet under his 
name, MSS. Bodl. HE. E. ii. 17. f. 21. Conf. BritoHnia 
SmctOf CK't. 10, and Warton's Hi$l. of EnglUh J'oelry, i. 
ro., ed. 1840.] 

Re.\di>g ScnooL. — At the time Dr. Valp^ was 
master of the (zranimar school at Reading, it was 
customary to act a pluv, Latin, Greek, or English, 
at the iriuuniiil visitation. Perhaps some of your 
reu<U'r.s could tell me when these (Xirformances 
were given up ? I have been informed by a gen- 
tleman who was himself a pupil of Dr. Valpy (the 
Rov. C. A. Wheelwright, late rector of Tansor) 
that these exiiii^itions were discontinued some 
time before the Doctor's death. In Miss Alit- 
foril's Ihl/uril Regis there is an amusing chapter 
relating to these performances, cntitletl " Tlie 
Greek Plays." Tlie Gentleman's Mag. for 1802, ' 
p. I04G., contains the Prologue and Epilogue to ' 
the Merchant of Venice, as acted by Dr. Valpy's 
scholars. The Epilogue was spoken by Mr. 
Wheelwright in the character of Portia. Conld 

you oblige mo with a list of the performeri on tiiis 
occasion ? B. Ihqui. 

[An old Reading scholar informs ua, that befon tke 
year 1830 the exhibitions were discontinned, as tia ta- 
tered aboat that time ; and althodgh Dr. Valpjr had 
ceased to come into the school, he still bad a class daily 
in bis library. He continned to instrnet them for the 
triennial exhibition, then called the Kaading Bebool 
speeches, which consisted of select portions ftom diflhnat 
plays. The Greek, Latin, and English prise powna wot 
spoken by their respective authors. Under the name flf 
" Belford Regis," Miss Mitford describes Reading and Its 
inhabitants. The Merchant nf Vmiet, altered hmn Sfask- 
speare, as it was acted at Reading School, in October, 
1802, was printed iu 8vo. in that year, oontaining ths 
VramaiiM Ptrmue : — Duke of Venioa, If r. Elmai. An* 
tonio, Mr. Eyre. Bassanio, Mr. Crespignv. LoreofSk 
Mr. A. J. Valpy. Solanio, Mr. Rodis. Salarino, Mr. 
Chester. Gratiano, Mr. Ames. Salcrio, Mr. Carr. Shy- 
lock. Mr. Bhuter. Tnbal, Mr. Caines. Gobbo, Mr. Whit- 
ton. Launcelot, Mr. Hawkes. Baltbasar, Mr. Andn«& 
Stephano, Mr. Chandler. Leonardo, Mr. T. Loraday. 
Jailor, Mr. Bolleino. Portia, Mr. Wheelwright. Keriasa, 
Mr. Loveday. Jessica, Mr. Wigan.] 

JoAKNBt Bhitankiccs. — Cau you inform me 
who was Joan. Britannici, commentakv of an 
edition of Fcrsius published in 4to, at Leydan ia 
15 1 1, of which I have a fine copy? and whether 
the book is of any intrinsic value r Ci.abach. 

[Joannes Britannicus was an Italian scholar of sons 
distinction, born at Folazzuolo, near Bietcio. He was 
long a teacher of youth at Brescia, where he died In 1611k 
He bore the name of Britannicus in cODBeoBaoce of hli 
descent from British progenitors, and publisbed otMsr. 
vations on various classical authors, aa Fersiua, Ttnun, 
Statius, Juvenal, Ovid, &c. He left also other writings 
and various letters, besides a panegjTic of B. Osjetaa. 
(Zedler, Gcsu. SiU., Ghil. Thealr. P. /., Cozaando 4riis 
Libraria Braciana, Rubei Elog. Brixieiit., Bayla.) We 
most refer our correspondent to some bookadler nr the 
intrinsic valus of his copy.] 

Fairmaids ajid Alewivbs. — These sinnilar 
terms arc used in the trade for certun kinds of 
dried fish. Fair-maids are explained by Halliwell 
as dried pilchards, and the term is prombly a cor- 
ruption of the Spanish fumado, a smoked uerriog. 
We might thus expect alewivet to be a corruption 
of the ;corrcsponding name in Spanish ; and the 
Query I would propose is. What is the mtl tech- 
nical signification of the words in question P and 
what is the Spanish or Portuguese designation of 
alewives P H. W. 

[We cannot suggest any Spanish or Portugneee cqnl- 
valent for the term " alewives ; " bat perhaps oar eoR^ 
spondent will like to see an American ex|)4anatioa, M 
given by J. R. Bartlett in his vnlusbla and interssting 
Dietianwry of AmericanUmi. The "alewifv," aocMdlag 
to Ibis writer, is "a fish of the herring kind, abonadiu 
in the waters of Now England" {Alota venudit, Storer]. 
Mr. Bartlett is disposed to derive "alewife" from the 
Indian ctloof. "The name," he says, "appeals to he en 
Indian one. .... In former time* the Indians made ase 
of these flsh to manure their lands. Mr. Winthrap m^ 
■ Where the ground is bod or worn out, th^ pot two sr 
three of tlie lubes tolled ahtofe* under or adjacent t0 esak 
corn-hill."' (See a paper on the Vm of Midi, FUL 

2X. -v. Jui.tSL'Ww') 



Ttw^K, 1«7«.) W« \h\ak llMrwtuipMM t«nn uppKcd to 
* «B«iked lutrriBR voaU W 4(/WaMH<*, and lb« apani&h 
■tm^MJi But ptTbapf »ar c«rr<»(M>nJcnt bun invc iriUi 
f^tmta In 0>e mna* M is^4t«*, Uixlcr *' )Ur>.'iig»," in 
Um lMd«x to BuIKm. iMBtiaa l« nu'lc oi ilu' licnuig fu- 
wtil* C* U )»umg /kwb,'^. C«n /iiiM/a be th« etrnio- 
tagy vMdk ka* MiBiii< to oar Mnecpondcnt's oiiud ? ] 

HvswT- — ' me whether any ely- 

tiuilo^ h^* <~> j tetl ut' tLiil inCuutiiie 

word 'f/ir tJ»c rahbit "IJuniiy?" Many of these 
^jttTcnii* «cpr<s«ion8 art dillicfllt enoiigb lo trace 
up fo tliflir raoiii. M. Foddeb. 

[Tk« ariciaal aain« U Ami In tlio Scotch language 
!•• b coaiTalalit to /uJ (a tail) ; and it in said of a 
} * maaiiiii. er ]iarf . tliat «h«"cixk!i bvr truw," i.e. cocka 
llcaa* ■* Uan>iabbil," Uun, ' and the " Uunnia" 
"all «<)utviUcnia, except tbat the laat i> n 
iklT^ «■>! all rrfcrriiig to tho anlmarit tail. Much 
I way a part waa somatinm put Tor thg whole, 
I thi «■ ef ov old LagUsli proviiuial word nut. Scat 
wn pMBKtl/ lb* tail uC M burr or rabbit ; bat waa aUo 
■lltj al t»ai)pilfy the hare il!i«ir.] 



(.2-' S. ij.. 400.) 
notice on (he word " vcrhere " in thit 
TO.- I'tion on the Harrow hrasa, Mb. 

J. ( . . - us : " 'My first Suggestion was 

'bjr tLe iUipcs ' of llim by whom the Gospel 
MBttni na «o arc heiileii : but I fear tbut is too 
cnraBfclktl a teaae for the tune when the epitaph 
WM mnttem." 

\Jfim «kat gronndg this " fear " of h'ls rests, Ms. 
J.6.Kkw»l» do«« nut BBT ; yet, in giving such a 
diidfart aiicrmDce t<> it, ne inoru than whispers, 
ihroogli " N. k Q.," nn opoa assertion that the 
\''--iouient was quite unknown 
< froui. Englishmen up to 
itry's religion in the six- 
-i no small charge to lay 
■ L-iiiic-by tOHchcrs and the 
', which they adorned 
.; monuments of their 
N. & Q." afford the proper list 

gnu mill of • 
to, and wilfs 

teenlh oeatu- 

Skt ot this our 
asdi costly ; 
Cbrictkn x«aL 

far ikb qwvtFrm, first, breause the rhallenec was 
Sn* tkrvn Mn thoir pages; secondly, 

ibo qwtion bound up with the olden 

fttvanant, the oUicn htcratuie, the olden customs, 
ik* allien mm of this land, about all of which 
"y ■ "■ ' 1 interest; 

ar >r to be at 

' 1 ini . » iair plHjr *i I 

Oas laui ' dnin IT justice to 

«*«^ fOir i.ijj^e of 

"^ tka br .1 <pac«. 

» mini 1 f»- 

am sure he will not shut me out from meeting and 
answering an accusation upon the spot where he 
allowed it to be uttered. 

Instead of there beiiifr any — the weakest — 
foundation for Mr. J. G. Nichols's "fear," it is a 
thing most thoroughly known to every one who 
has made himself but slightly acquainted with the 
religious belief held by our forefathers daring 
the mediieval period, anil from the earliest timet, 
that the great mysteries of the Incarnation, and 
of the Redemption and Salvation of mnn by 
Christ our Lord, were not only unweariedly 
preached to the people by the Church, but set 
forth in erery imaginable form, even too in tke 
lighter literature of those days, after a way that, 
perhaps, might now be looked upon as exag- 
gerated and out of place — nay, a very bore itself, 
by not a few among the so-called evangelicals of 
the present hour. 

In her daily liturgy, in very mony of her more 
especial ceremonials within her yearly course, in 
her symbolism, in her architecture, in her varioua 
ritual appliances, in fact at all her moments, and 
by every thing about her, the Church spoke forth, 
as she still speaks, in loudest words the glorious 
mystery of the Atonement. 

The holy Sacrifice of tho Mass, by its various 

prayers, the distribution of its several ports, ^nd 

" tW p ~ 

ing it up, took our forefathers every inornine 

even by the vestments of tH priest who was oflcr- 

back in thought to Calvary aiid the crucifixion ; oU 
the ceremonies durinj> Holy Week led their minds 
and hearts to the same spot ; the very orientation 
of the building whither they went to prsiy, told 
them of the Orient from on hi"h, who brought to 
them " health in bis wings ; " the little croiis upon 
the altar, the larjzer one in the rood-loft, the cross 
in the churchyard or by the wayside, the cruci- 
fixion limned m the missal at the beginnirg of the 
canon, and graven on the chalice foot, spoke 
man's redemption wrought by the death of the 
God-man Saviour. In many a cathedral, and e%'en 
in little parish churches, the studied and intended 
deflection to the north of the presbytery and 
chaiict,-! walls, was done for no other purpose than 
to show how the head of our I^ord hung leaning to 
that side, at tho moment of his deoth lor us upon 
the altar of the cross : the transepts, or, as tber 
were better called, the cross- isles made the church 
itself to figure forth in its ground-plan that in- 
strument of our redemption, while often the 
stained-glass windows all oround were filled with, 
types and atjfetyp«|» of that same mercy. Tbei 
paintings anii . ' < on the walls; the cala- 

driiis, tuat in "l that, by gazing on the 

dying uian, t<")i^ w nsetf his sickness, and gave^ 

/AWJ mio s ^ssi ^nii>f, uiJ jwtat iyf^iusi . to thOM C«iluuULk— tu " ^.ftfc^ 



t5^S. X.Jri.TJL'Bfi. 

bim health ; the pelican thnt vras thouglit lo bring 
bftik to life her dead offfprinp bj teiirinp open her 
own breast, nnd sprinkling them with her warm 
blood, all were meant tu bring to men's minds 
how Christ had taken iniin's flesh to die, and thua 
become their only Saviour. Stronger still did the 
church of our fathers leach this doctrine to her 
children in all her several service-books. But 
without stopping now to gather fnxn missals, and 
breviaries, and p-oib, and manuals, and other such 
sources any evidences of thi?, let us go on to other 
written documents more at hand which show how 
deeply «nd widely this creat truth was made to 
apread iL<c1f hII through, not merely our more 
serious and reliijious literature, but even the 
lighter prmluctions of the poet and the minairel. 

The first le'json that, whilom in this land, our 
brothers and sisters of the faith had taught them 
from earliest childhood, was this very doctrine of 
the Atonement. The A, B, C, put into their lit- 
tle hands, was conspicuously headed by the em- 
blem of man's redemption, the cross, and for the 
reitson following : — 

" Qoon ■ chyld to scolc xal set be, 
A bok hym ii browt, 

Naylyd on a brtde of tr«, 

Tbat mitn rullytan ab«ce, 
Pralvlycb i-wroot. 

Wront i« on th^ok withont, 

T. paraffrt KT«Wind stouto, 
Rolyd in roae-red ; 

That is set KJtboutyn doule. 

In tokenyn of Criitea ded. 

Be ibis bok men may dyvyna 
Tbat CbtiKles body was ful of pyna. 

That dpy'id on rode tre. 
On Ire lie was don ful blvtbe 
With grele psraflys, that ben wondea. V. 

As ye nioii understonde. 

Hot Goil that let by* body aprada 
Upon the rode fur manya nede. 

In bcvene u; alle avauncel " 

Rttiquia A-llgviir, Scrap! from 
Aneimt Manusertptt, ic, edit 
Wrigbt and Ualliwell, 1. G.l 

Nay, the child's first ri>eUing book was called 
Critt Crone me spede : — 

" How long agoo lernjd ye, Crist cross* me spedc! 
Have ye no more lemyd ofyonre a. b. c." 

I.ydgatt's Minor Poem*, printed by 
the Percy SocieC y, p. 42. 
" Cros«e was made all of red 
In (h« begvniiiug of my bi.'ke 
Tbat is callyd god me »ped. 
In the fynle lesson that j tok(^ 
Tbenno j lerncd . a. and . b. 
And oiher lellen by ber name*, 
But ulwgye god ipcde mo. 
Thoiijtbt'me iiedefnll in all games, 
Yf j played ia felde other raedes, 
Sl^ lie oilitr wythe noy«, 
I prayed lielpc in all I'ny d^dcs 
Ol bym that doyed upon the croya." 

Typographical Antiquitiu, ed. Dib- 
•tln, ii. 911. 

Besides being thus led, even while playing in fii'ld 
and mend, to think of Him who made the cross 
rod with His own blood through love for miin, 
the English child, as he grew up, was taught to 
bless himself, that is, make upon his own breast 
the sign of the cross which at baptism the priest 
had marked upon his forehead, and again in the 
palm of his right band, in witness of this same 
belief. The reason for thus blessing himself be 
was told waa this :, — 

"Then lele as to biytse oa with the sygne of tha 
blesayd croaae tbat we may therby l>e kept fro the power 
of ours goostll and dedeli enmye the deuyll. And bv Ibe 
merjtea of y* gloryous pasayon that our Savour /beau 
Crxat suGTred on the crotae after Ihia lyf we may coma to 
everlanynge Ivf in heuen." (TKe CoMen Ligmd, ad. 
Wynkyii de Word, a.d. 1627, fol. cxxix.) 

Come to the age of youth they heard the same 
doctrine from sermons, and books of religious in- 
struction. In the sermon for Passion Sunday, the 
" Festival " says : — 

" So lete us leve all our othes and lyre aa cristen peo- 

51a abolde doo, and reverence the paiayon of our lord 
be«u criste : y' was cause of our reUempcyoo ; by lb* 
whiche.we ahal'l corae to everlaitinge bliaae," fol. xxvui., bu 

Like to (his is what is said in explanation of the 
ceremonies on Palm Sunday, fols. xxix. xxxii., 
Good Friday, fol. xxxv.. Holy Thursday, £bl. 
xli., b. " Of the swele and holy name of iesua," 
lhi« " Festival " says : — 

" Foraotb ifaesus by inlerpretacion is aa mocha to say 
as a sarjoor; » bellbe gyverj or bellhe it Mlfc. All «<> 
be aynncrs and all we bebome chyldrcn of yre ; and linvc 
nede of grace aayth saint Poule. Of whoin'»ball we huva 
this grace ; and be delivered from aynne : certainly nf noiia 
other but of ieau, tbat ia — of ihesui full of grarc, and by 
wbom all grace and our salvation rometb. And witbouia 
ihesus no grace may be hadde nor no good dede wrotight," 
ful. cxxx. 

" Jeaua: this is the name; and there ia none olhar I* 
be saved bi." fol. cxxxiiii. 

Often, too, this is the ending of (he sermons in 
the " Festival : " — 

"To tbat biyase (of heaven) bringe as all to: bo tbl 
dyed on the rode tree for all mankiude. Aman." 

The youth, while preparing himself for lb 
clerical state, was taught to behold how Christ i| 
the flesh went, after a manner, through every sle 
in holy order, from the tonsure upward^ to 
pent high priesthood, before Ue ofiered uphims 
in saerince forman'sredeniption. Of this tne rel!gt> 
OU8 poems of William de Shorebam, vicar of Chart_ 
Sutton, Kent, and edited for the Percy Society 
by Mr. T. Wright, will afford us a popular 
Speaking of the priesthood, Shoreham says : ^ 

" Aud wanne he y-ordred liyg, 
Ilym faith an holy gyse, 
Hva bonden l>etb anoynta bolba 
^'bor-oul u cirowcfae \rrae, 

8«^s.x.Jpi,T2i. m] 



Tb»r-inne Godcsovcn flwchf, 
Tbil I'otle ii to the ilroiige. 

CrvBt kedde Ibat be liy« a prut 

hygt in doable msnere; 
That on tbo be satreded Uyt body, 

ilier be set att« sopere ; 

Thet other 
Tho bo in roude offrede hya body 

For ous, my Jeve brother." — pp. 52, 53. 

The young maiden who chose for lierself the 
convent or the ankress life, had this same doc- 
trine of the redemption set before her, not merely 
in aJl her daily religious exercises, but in a marked 
and strong roancer by the explanation of her 
particular rule. Mr. J. G. NicHot.8 is a well- 
deserving member of a very useful literary asso- 
ciation — the Cnuiden Society ; Bnd among: the 
several curious works of old Englbh authorship 
which it has snatched from forgelfulness and given 
to the world, one of thera, most valuable iu many 
regards, is the Aiicren Ritcle. Among the many 
apposite paiuages in that beautiful ascetic work, I 
would call Mb. J. G. Nichols's attention to those 
ot pp. 27. 35. 113. 115. 189. &c., while I content 
myself with bringing forwards here these two : — 

"Thi* Eingii Jeaus Christ, the son or God, whofn thia 
manner wooed oar soul, which the devils hid beueged. 
And b(>, as a noble wooer, after many messengers, and 
many good deeds, came to prove his love, and shewed by 
his knightly prowess thai be wis worthy of luve, as 
knights were sometimes wont to do. He eneaeed in a 
toumament, and bad, for bis lady's love, his shield eveiy 
where pierced in battle, like a valorous knight. This 
shield, which covered his godhead, was bis dear body, 
tbat was extended on the cross, broad as a shield above, 
in bis outstretched arms, and narrow beneath, beianse, 
as men suppose, the one foot was placed upon the other 

foot This shield defends us not only from all evils, but 

doth yet more, it crownelh us in heaven.— Could he not 
have delivered us with less trouble? Tea, inilecd, full 
easily, but he would not. Wherefore 7 To take away 
from OS every excuse for not loving bim who redeemed 
us at so dear a price. Men buy for an easy price a tbini; 
for which they c»re little. He bought us with bis heart's 
blood, a dearer price there never was, that he might draw 
out of us oar lore towards him which cost him so dear. 
There are three things in a shield ; the wood, the leather, 
^B and the {Minting. So was there in thia shield; Ibe iroml 
H of the cross, the leather of God's body, and the painting 
B nf the red blood which stained it so futly. — Afler the 
death of a valiant knight, men hanj; np bis shield high 
in the church, to his meinorj'. So is (his shield, that is 
the cmciflx, set up in the' cburcb, in such a place in 
which it may be soonest seen, thereby to remind us of 
Jesus Christ's knigbthoml. which he practiced on the 
cross. His spouse beholdeth thereon how be bought her 
love, and let his shield tie pierced, that is, let his side 

»be opened to shew.ber bis heart, and to shew her openly 
how dcepiv be loved her, and to draw her heart to him." 
Pp. 391. .m 

•* Konr principal kinds of love arc found in this world — 
the third, bcltrcen a woman and her child. — If a child 

thMi a disease of !<uch a nature, tbat a bath of blool were 
Kquired for him before he could be healed, that mother 
must love him greatly who would make this bath for bim 
(with bfr own blooti). Our L<ird did this for us who 
wera to sick with sin, and to dtdled with it, that nothing 

could heal us or c1ean.«e tis but his blood only r for so ha 
would ba\'e it ; bis love made us a bath thereof; blessed 
may ha be forever. — 'Who loved us and washed us in 
his own blood ; ' that it, be loved us more than any 
mother doth her clijld — and he then telletb the reason 
why, ' In mauibua mets descripsi te.' ' 1 have pninled 
thee,' sailh be, ■ in my hands.' He did so with red blood 
upon the cross,"— Pp. 393., Ac, 

The Myrroure of our Lady, written for the es- 
pecial reading and meditation of the nuns of 
Syon Uoiue, Islcworth. of which a perfect copy 
now lies before me, printed by R. Jawkos, a. n. 
1530, says in its explttnation of the Friday's choir- 
service : — 

" Amongste other thynges that the voyces of prophetea 
tolde before of the sonoe of God ; they tolde how barde 
dethe he wolde suffer in his moste innocentc bodv in tbys 
worlde; tbat menne togj-ther wylh hym, shulde have 
everlostynge lyfe in heven. For the prophetea propho- 
syed and wrote, how the same sonne oi god, for the de- 
lyverance of mankynd, shulde be bounds and skourge<l — 
and how he shulde be ledde to the crosse, ahd howspyle- 
fuUy be shulde be treleU and crucyfyed,"— Folo, cxxxvL b. 

The third part of this Myrroure " that ys of 
youre Masses," baa this explanation : — 

"And therfure at the beuynnynge of the Benedictut ye 
turne to the suiter and Tiinkethe token of the crosse upon 
you in mynde of oure lorties passion wicho is specially 
represented in the msase.— Then folowyth Agnus dei, sayde 
of the pre-ste and song* of the ouier, where our lorde iesu 
criste is culled the lambe of god the father. For lyke as 
a lambe was ofToTcd of tho iewes at Ester in token of 
theyr del%Teruun4'o aute of the thraldorae of Egypte, so 
was oure'brde oS°Mm1 on the ciosse /or the delyvraunce 
of nil mankynde fmn th« thraldome of the fende ond 
from synne.'And therfure we save, Aghut dti, ifc. LandMS 
of god that doest away the synnes of the worlde, have 
mercy on us, delyvcryinge us from synne." — Fols. 
clxxxviii, b. &c 

How that careful teachtng of the Atonement 
iirnu^ht deeply and Inatingly upon the hearts of 
those cldistored ladies, seen in ihat sweet 
little book from the pen of Mother Juliana Ankress 
at Norwich, c. a.d. 1373, entitled, Sixteen Reveia- 
tions of Diriite Liwe, und reprinted by Crosslcy, 
Leicester, in 18-13: ftw wurks ure so crowded 
wilh such hullowinj; tboiighls arising frorn a medi- 
tatiou on man's redemption through Christ ; nnd, 
unless I much mistaken, the reading of but a few 
papes of it will unburthen Mb. J. G. NicHOLs'a 
mind of all Lis " fear." 

Not oidy cleric, and nun, and ankress, who 
were bound, but those among the laity — and 
they were many — whose devotion led them to 
daily say their breviary, were all taught to bring 
to mind the diderent stages of our Saviour's 

Eassion as they went througli each of thecniionical 
ours; for instance, William de Shoreham says of 
'• bora sex I a " : — 

"On croucbe y-nsyled was Jbesus 
Alte sixgte tyde, 
StroDge tbcves beogen by on 
Eylbet haVt by* «Av 



(.>* S. X. JULT 91. >». 

Iha by* pyna bys gtronge tbant 
SUunchede by wyth K«lto ; i 

So th«t Gode* holy lorabe 
Of teone wescbe ou alle." — p. 85. 

Moreover, as a book of daily prayer for the 
laity, the Hora B. V. Maria ad luum Surum, 
was drawn up, and in all educated people's hands : 
in it, besides many beautiful prayers addressed to 
our divine Redeemer, we have the office De 
Cruce ; and how that form of supplication taught 
the unspeakable merits of the Atonement, may be 
gathered from the words of its first collect : — 
" Domine Jesu Xpe fili dei vivi pone passionem, 
crucem et mortem tuam inter indicium tuum et 
animas nostras," &e. The devotion to the five 
great wounds of our Lord upon the cross was of 
old in universal favour : it had given it a beau* 
timl symbolism by our forefathers, who loved to 
look upon those five wounds as so many welU 
springs of that blessed blood which washes away 
the guilt of all those sins committed in those five 
bodily senses of ours ; and the sour eisel, and the 
bitter gall which drenched the mouth of our dying 
Lord, they understood were tasted by Him in 
especial atonement for each and all our sins of 
speech, while He wore the crown of thorns to 
satisfy for all our sins of wicked thought. The 
above devotion showed itself in many ways ; thus 
John Buret says : — " I wille have at myn inter- 
ment at my diryge and mease v. men clad in 
blak in wurshipye of Jlius v. woundys — eche of 
them holdyng a torche of cleqa vexe." — Bvry 
WilU, printed byCamden Soc.^l?.; and Arch- 
bishop Scrope, as he was about to be so wrongfully 
beheaded, thus addressed his executioner :— " dc- 
prccor, ut des mihi cum gladio tuo quinque vul- 
nera in collo meo, quae sustincre cupio pro amore 
Domini mei Jesu Christi, qui pro nobis obediens 
patri usque ad mortem quinque vulnera princi- 
palia sustinuit." — Angflia\Sao. li. 370. 

W ith those who could not read, as well as with 
such as could, in fact with all, high and low, rich 
and poor, learned and unlearned, the saying of 
the beads was a most favourite devotion ; so much 
so that a pair of" Pater-nosters" was always worn 
openly about the person, and became an article 
of dress. Now the object, nay, the very essence 
of that form of prayer is to set before the mind 
in due succession the incarnation, the great in- 
cidents in the life, the death upon the cross, the 
rising from the grave, the going up to heaven of 
our Lord ; in other words, to remind us of every 
thing belonging to the whole mystery of the 

Our old English hymns and pious songs abound 
with passages to our purport : — VexiUa regis prO' 
deunt, ifc. 

" The Kyng«fl bansres both forth y-lad ; 
The rode tokne is nou to-sprsd. 
Whar b« that wroath havet al monkinne, 
An-honged was vor oare sinne. 

To irasben ous of sinne clene 

Water and blod ther ronne at ene," Sue. 

Seliquias Aniiqfue, i. 87. 

" Swet Jhesus, bend and fro. 
What was i-strawgt on rode tre> 
N owthe and ever mid us be 

and us schild fram sinne ; 
Lei thou nogt to helle te 

thai that beth her inne; 
So brigte of ble, tboa hire me, 

hoppe of all maa-kynne, 
Do us i-se the IViait^ 

and hevene riche to winne." — lb. U. 190. 

" Jbosu Cryst, myn leraman swate. 
That for me deyedes on rode tre, 
Wiht al myn herte 1 the biseke, 

For thi wndes to and thrc 
That al lo faste In myn herte 

Thi love roted mute be. 
As was the spere into thi side, 
Whan thou suiTredi* dad for ma! " 

lb. ii. 119. 
From some beautiful lines on " Love," take the 
following:' — 

" Crist mad* to man a fkir present. 
His blody body with love y-brant. 
That blisfal body his lyf bath sent. 
For love of man whom sin hath blent. 
O, love! love! what hastow m«nt? 

His herte is rent, bis body is blent 

Upon the roode tree ; 

Wrong is went, the devel is shent, 

Crist, thonig the mygt of thee."— ift. L 166. 

" In ttumus tuoM, 

" Loverd Godd, in hondes tine, 
I biqnetbe soule mine, 
Thu me boctest with thi deadd, 
I/)vard Godd of sothfastheedd,"— /6. i. 235. 

" Man, be war^^e, 

" Tbi tnnge is mad of fleych and blod, 
Evcle to spekyn it is not good. 
But Cryst that deyid upon the rood, 
So gyf as grace our tunges to spare," &c. 

" Prey to Cryst with blody syde. 
And othere wouades grile and wyde. 
That he for-geve the tbi pryde 
And thi synnys that tboa bast doo." 

Jb. ii. 166. 166. 
In his verses upon the seven sacraments, Wil- 
liam de Shoreham says thus of the Eucharist: — 

" AH* Uketb that rygt body 

Tbysa men at hare bouslynge : 

And that bys sweta Ibesu Cryst 

Ine flesche and eke ine blonde. 
That tholede pyne and passyouo. 

And diath opene the roude^" &C. 

And in other verses : — 

" We the honreth, Ihasu Ciyst, m 

And blesseth ase thou os tougtest i ^ 
For thonrg thy crouche and paasyon 
Tbys wordle thou for-boagtert." 





Dear old Doa Lydgatc, vrboio boyiih "liut" 
wu — 

•• Rc(lier« cbirttoonyi for to t«lle. 
Tbiu) gou to chircbo or hc«ite tlia ttcry belle ;" 

»fterwardf>, irlion be grew up and became a monk, 
rhymed many a sweet verse for the instruction u 
well as itic solace of bis readers. Ail through big 
poems he gives utterance, as a matter of course, 
to stich words as these : — 

" Lord brvug us n1 to tlivn enlicritaoce 

Willie thl prMlous bliKxle, as Ihou ua bought." 

His Minvr Poems, edited by Mr. IlalliwcU for 
the Percy Society, arc full of beautiful pieces 
which nii"lU be quoted ut length, such as "Let 
DvvoMte Feplu kcue observaunce," the " Devo- 
tions of the Fowls, &c. In his " Procewioune of 
Corpus Chriftti," he says : — 

" First that this fost maybe tbc inoie niapDifyeJ, 
Se«thi' aoU coii»iilri()ie in yimre iiaai^yiiittif, 
for Adam liit lyimo bow Cnal was crucifyod 

Upon a croise to stjnlen ol ourc stryf j 
Frwy t celestial hang on the tr« of lyf," fltc, — p, 95. 

In U)e " Legend of St. Austin at Comptoa," 
tbc saitit is made thus to speak : — 

" Tbynk. how Ihaaos boubt« us with his blootl, 
()only of mercy salTtyd paasiouD, 
For ina'nnya take was Dayle<l on the rood, 
l<iT« to the herle for our redeinpcionD," fee. 

p. 146. 
"Lydgale'» Testament" is full to overflowing with 
such sentuncuts ; and according to the good old 
monk: — 

*' No soog M> Bweto unto the audience 
Aa U IhesuB, now ao ful o6(ileeaunce 

la this name moost sovereyn of vertn 
Stant hool our hoope and al our asuuraiuice," &c, 

p. 233. 

" Withejmne my doaet, and in my UUl coucbc/ 
O blisaid Ibesut and by my bcddys side 
That Doon immr nor no fe«n(i ahal me toaebc, 
Tba name of Ibeea with m« sbal evir abydc I " 

p. 285. 

■• TUa nam* Iheaus, by interpretacloan. 

U for to 6eync our blyaaiil Saviour, 
Oar strong Sampson that atranglyd the lioun, 

Our lord, our maker, and our creatour; 
And by his paasioun tn detb oar redemptour," Ac. 

•• At welirs ftve licour I ahal drawo. 

To wiusbe the rust of my synoyB \Ayr% 

I meene the wellys of Cristia woundys live, 

Wberby we deymc of merciful pile 
ThoruUe helpo of Ihesu, at gracioos poort t'aryve, 

Tber to have mercy kucclvug on uur kue," &c 


D. Bock. 
Bitwk Green, Hammersmith. 

(7(1 he eoucltuied in oar netf.) 

(2"« S. ix. 283.) 

Dr. Arnc's beautiful Ectling of Auiieiis' song, 
"Blow, blow, Uiou winter wind" {As You Like 
It), is known to all. Mr. W, Liiilcy lias remarked 
the fact that the Doctor, in his setting, hiis omitted 
the burthen — "Then heigho-Lo, the holly," &C. 
This, accordingly, Mr. Liiilcy lias composed him- 
self; nnd, in his Dranmlic Songs of Shakspeare, 
has added it to Dr. Arne's composition. R. J. 
Stevens has set "Blow, blow, thou winter wind" 
{ImrthcH included), as a glee for soprano, altu, 
tenor, and base ; and Sir IT. Bishop has har- 
monised Dr. Arne's air for four male voices (for 
introduction into The Comedy of Errorx), wliYmg, 
by the pormission of Mr. Stevens, lliu burthen 
from /ji* cloo, 

K. J. .Stevens's favourite setting (as a glee) of 
" iTou spotted snakes " (Mi'tnummer Nig^ht't 
Dreavi), is, I lind, not the only composition in 
that form to those words. In a concert-book 
(Salisbury, 179*2,) lent to me by a friend, amongst 
the glees announced to be sung at the Assembly 
Room on Thursday evening, August 2.1, 1702, 
will be found " You spotted snakes," with only 
the initials W. B. E. atlixcd to it. This seemed 
to differ in treatment from Mr, Stevens's setting 
(which closes at the "Lullaby") by adding the 
2nd Fairy's words : — • 

" Hence away, now all is well ;" 
One, aloof, stand con tin cl." 

Subsequently I chanced upon ibis very com- 
position, as I may presume, in print, with the com- 
poser's name given at length as W. B. Earle, Esa. 
The last two lines were treated as a "spiritoso ' 
movement. " You spotted snakes" also occurs in 
J. C. Smith's opera of The Fairies, wherein the 
words are set as a solo for Titonia. This arrange- 
ment necessitating some little chanj^e In the words, 
"our fairy queen ' becomes "the fairy queen," and. 
the line — 

" Come our lovely lady nigh," — 

is abrogated for — 

" Come the fairy's pillow nigh." 

"Crabbed Age and Youth" (Pauionede Pil- 
grim) has been very beautifully set by Mr. B. J. 
Stevens as a glee for four male voices, and id a 
well-known composition, There are at least three 
other settings of these words : one of these, by 
i Signor Giordan! (about 1780), is a duett, appar- 
ently either for sopranos or tenors ; the other two 
settings are both by Sir H. Bishop, — the first 
as a song for Olivia in Twelfth Night, and the 
second, a totally difl'erent composition, is a dra- 
matic trio for Rosalind, Cclia, and Touchstone, 
and was written for a musical revival of Ai You 
Like It. 

Since I wrote the previous pajxr I have found 
that to the jIve seltiix^a \.W^\u V3»«x«>i>, ^^ ^"^ '^~ 




tfr^S-X JoltSL' 

pheua and hia Lute," must now be added two 
more. One of these is hy Sir H. Bishop, nnd is n 
duett for Olivia and Viola in Twelfth Night; and 
Mr. W. H. lIu^k informs me that the other set- 
tii);^ is a four-part Madrigal by Lord Worniiigton, 
and that it is contained in the volume of bis lord- 
ship's Gleet, edited hf Sir Q. Bishop. 

Alfred KorrE. 
Somen Town. 

Stolbs Brass (-2"" S. ix. 511.) — I have been 
favoured, by the courtesy of Mr. Snraon, with & 
communiciition to himself, dated May 5, 1860, 
from the Rev. F. Le Grice, vicar of Great Grans- 
den, near Caxton, Cambridgeshire, in which that 
gentleman says decidedly that the brass ivas token 
from the church of Billin"ford, near Diss. Al- 
though I have been anticipated in the object of 
my communication to " N. & Q.," yet I hope that 
other correspondents will, if opportunity occur, 
follow Mr. Cuadwick's advice. The brass, I 
may add, has since passed into Mr. Le Grice's 
possession. P. J. F. GANTiiAOJf. 

Bath Familt (v!"* S. ix. 487,)— C. B.'a in- 
quiry relative to this family, more piopetly styled 
de Bathes of Bathe House near Taunton, will be 
met, at lenst in respect tc* their descendants in 
Ireland from the time of £d>vard IL, by the me- 
moir of the lincnge of Peter Bathe, a lieutenant 
in King Jiiraes'a regiment of infantry, us lately 
printed in Mr. D'Altoji's Illustrtilionn ofupwarJs 
of 400 fauiilles, members uf which held commis- 
sions in that ijervice. Simon Bathe is there stated 
to have been ii lauded proprietor in Limerick at 
the close ol" the thirteenth century. Matthew do 
Bathe filled sundry ofliccs ot' trust and rank in 
SIcalh during the reiyn of Edward IIT. John 
Bathe was the chief magistrate of Dublin in 1350. 
Thomas Bathe, clerk, was Chief Baron of the 
Irish Exchequer in 13S1, and in twelve years 
alter Le was one of the Lords Justices in Ire- 
land. A grandson and namesake of his was the 
king's cscbeator in 1441, at which time, and for 
some previous years, this family were seised of 
various estates in Louth. In 1,533, William Bathe 
was Vice-Treasurer in Irulanil. In two years 
after James Bathe was a[)poiuted Chief Baron of 
the Exchefjuer there. In 1554, John Bathe was 
Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, and Lis son 
and namesake was Chancellor of the Exchequer 
in 1654. In 1581 anotlier ^V't]linnl Bathe was 
one of the Jud<;e8 of the Irish Common Pleas ; 
and, in Perrot's Parliament of 1585, Thomas Bathe 
was one of the representatives for Dundalk. In 
1641, James Bathe was, with other members of 
the name, attainted, and the civil war of 1688 in- 
duced yet more confiscations of this family. Of 
those then Attainted was James Bathe, a minor, 
whose grandson, Janics Michael Bathe, nasumed 

the more legitimate, as it was the original, sur-J 
name of de Bathe. He was created a haronet in 
1801, and his son, Lieutenant-Colonel William 
Bathe, is the present baronet. These notices on 
briefly extracted from the Illutiraliom above al- 
luded to. JoHH D'Altow. , 
48. Bammer Hill, Dablin. 

The German Chcbch in London (2°* S. x.6.)l 
— Access to the State Papers enables me to an8wep| 
one of Mk. JfiCHOia's Queries. A List of the 
Dutch Church in 1561 J* signed " PetrusDeloenua 
verbi minister in Ecclesia Londiua Germanica;"*^ 
and at p. 193. of my HUt. it is slated tliat boll 
Micronius and Deloenus were born in Belf^iura. 
The notice about the early Register of the Dutch 
Church had escaped me, but 1 will make inquiries 
with a view of recovering it, and depositing it at 
Somerset House. 

Since the publication of my IJittory of the Pni* 
ieiitnnt Refugees, I have collected much additional 
information, which is at the service of anyon4 
desirous of giving it to the public. A French! 
translation of the whole has recently been made 
for some Protestant gentlemen in Paris, ^anj 
interesting details relating to the Protestant refu- 
gees in Ireland have already appeared in the Ul* ^ 
gfer Journal of Archaology, and we may hopw to 
see a complete history of the French settlers there, 
augmented as they were by the Protestant rep- 
meiits of Gallway, MoUtiiere, Lifford, Bellcastlc, 
and Miremont, the gallant soldiers of Wm. III. 

JouM S. Bi'Bir. 

CitBiSTOPHEB Lord Hattos (2"'' S. x. 4.) — J 
Your able correspondent, Cl. Hopper, describe 
the first Lord llatton as the " son of Sir Chris* 
topber Halton (knighted nt the coronation 
King James I.), who succeciicd, as neftre6.t kint«l 
man, ,to the estates of the celebrated Chanceltorl 
of thai name." I Ho not diiipute the correctne 
of this description ; but if it be correct, Mr. Cour- 
ihope (Somerset HeraM) will have to rectify, in 
the next edition of Nicolas's Historic Peerage^ 
the entry which describes the first Lord Hatiu 
as the " son of John llatton, cousin and heir 
male of Sir Christopher Hnttnn, K.G., Lord 
Chancellor to Queen Elizabeth," Allow me tO 
Olid a Note here of the first lord's kindliness 
heart.. When he was in exUe in France, ai 
Henrietta Maria had discarded her little »i 
Gloucester, on account of his refusal to embrac 
the Roman Catholic religion, Halton took 
hungry boy to bis own table, and offered him 
lodgmg in his house. This the noble-spiritcil lilth 
Duke declined, reminding Hatton that such gyp 
vice rendered to a sou of Charles I. might 
ducc Cromwell to sequestrate that portion of hi( 
estate which Lord Hatton was still permitted 
enjoy. This incident will be found in Carte*) 
Ormonde. Four Uuttons were members of 

I & X. Jolt 21. 'BO.] 






peerage; one ns baron; three ns viscounts, tbe 
jnst dying in 1762, without offspring. The family, 
however, is represented through a female by the 
present Earl of Winchilse&and Nottingham, whose 
ancestor, Daniel Finch, secoudEarl of Nottingham 
flnd sixth Earl of Winchilseii, married Anne, the 
daughter of Christopher Viscount Ilatton (son of 
the first lord). Mb. IIoprEs's reference to Dug- 
dale beiti^ employed by Lord Halton reminda me 
of the foUowuig passage in Pepys: — 

" 2^tb NovflDib«r, 1661. . . . To the Cbaiic«llor'i, 
ftod there met with Mr. Dugdale; and with liim and 
ooa Mr. Sinioat (I think that belooga to my Lord 
Batton) and Mr. Kipps and others, to tbo Fountaiti« 

How they passed their time there, may be guessed 
from the opening words of the cnti-y for the next 
day : " 29th. I lay long in bed." In the Fair/ax 
Corretpftrtdence (Bentley, 1849) soiue additional 
trails of Uatton's character will be found, ita illus- 
trated by his quarrel with Sir Richard Browne. 
The details of tbis quarrel show how difiiciill it is to 
irrite hiatory, cvea upon contemporary evidence. 

J. DoEAW, F.S.A. 

laiSH Enigbts (2''* S. x. 27.) — The opinion 
alluded to by Abrba, was one given upon an ex- 
partc ttatement. The law officers of Ireland, upon 
n fuller statement of fact?, gave an Ofiposite 
opinion, and the result was a case to the judges, 
by an order (I think) in council. The judges 
were oil unanimous that the Lord lieutenant had 
the power before the Union, and retained it sub- 
fequently to the Union with England. See the 
opinion printed in Nicolos's Hitl. of the Orders of 
Knighthood, vol. i., Introduction, p, xiii. xiv. 

The expression Irish knight* is an absurdity. 
Knighthood is an honour unirersaL, and anyone 
knigbted by the Lord Lieutenant is a knight bache- 
lor everywhere. G. 

"Moss Mortis Mobti" (2°* S. ix. 513.) — I 
forward another version : — 

■• Had not tb« Death of death to death death by death 
CloaM on aa had been the gate of life and heaven ! " 

The Cambridge Tart mentions these lines as 
having been found among Por-ion's papers; but 
adds tbot their authorship is doubJful. 

P. J. F. Gastillon. 

6.) : (Qi/- properly "Frith, a Fretiimf") — Though 
rather sceptical na regards the first two — that the 
derivation of a name in the case of the somewhat 
prevailing element of water is to be looked for ia 
that of earth, ns " soil" or " sully," &c., I am not 
in a position at present to advance anything du-fi- 
nite otherwise. It is different, however, us re- 
spects our Cumberland estuary of the Sol way : 
though cerlRinly eimtaiiiing in its broad expanse 
a doDgeroiu sand-bonk or two, such as " Eubin 

IJiff," &<"., they are pure sand from the flow of the 
Atlantic, and parUke in no degree of " soil " xjr 
" sully," &e., or their synonyms. It has surprised 
me to sec a similar derivation, of such a modern 
aspect loo, attributed to the Frith by local ety- 
mologists also of some repute. Its shores at ebb- 
tide show perhaps the greatest extent of clear, 
hard, pure saitd of any locality in the kingdom. 
We must look to a classicnl source for the origin 
of the name of " Solway." It is no doubt derived 
from the " Selgova;," one of the most considerable 
of the Coledotiiiin tribes (whether Pictish or 
British), who inhabited and possessed its northern 
shore. This is also the learned Dr. Prichard's 
opinion, Phi/i. JJiitt. of Man, vol. iii. p. 153 : " The 
Selgovae .... to the north of the Solway, which 
preserves their name." 'J'he philological affinity 
of " g " and " w " is of course one of the com- 
monest. A peculiar and deeply-indented bay in 
its cea-line, into which both the Waver an«i Wam- 
pool empty themselves, might have been expected 
to have borne such a name ; but, on the contrary, 
the "ocean" element only ia preserved in it. It 
is " Moricamb " Bay — " Mor-i-camb," the turn- 
ing, twisted, or indented "sea." So also its larger 
and more southern namesake " Moricamb " Bay 
near Lancaster, though it undoubtedly exhibits 
extensive mud banks at ebb, either from the pe- 
culiar formation of its flat shallow bed, or the 
wa^h of the rivers Kent and Winstcr, or both 
causes. Frechkville L. B. Dykes. 

Rutherford Familt (2°^ S. ix. 403. ; x. 18.) 
— The pedigree of the Lords Rutherfurd, extinct 
peers of Scotland, is given by Nichols in his 
Conipend. (vol. ii. p. 478., ed. 1729), and I beg 
to offer the following summary for the informa- 
tion of your correspondent Alpha. The account 
commences with "sir Robert de Rutherfurd, who, 
in the English war in the reign of King Edward 
I., eminently appeared in the interest of his coun- 
try." Jiimes Rutherfurd of that Ilk, temp. .Jac. 
II., obtained a charter of the Barony of Edzer- 
ston ; he married MiirgurcL Erokinc, and had two 
sons, Richard (who died ri/<i patrii) and Thomas ; 
Richard left nnotlier Richard (who died isf ueless), 
and two daughters ; the eldest, Helen, married 
Andrtw Rutlierfurd of Huiithill, !>on of AV'illi.Tm 
Rutherfurd of Quarreholl (by laabL-l, (laughter to 
James Steuart, Eail of Traouair), who was created 
by Kln^ Charles II. Bsroti *, and afterwards Earl 
of Tevrot, and dying 1664, ». p. that title expired. 
The Barony of Rutherfurd Ly his last will de- 
volved upon throe brothers of the House of Hunt- 
hill, the two eldest of whom (Sir Thomas and 
Archibald) died *. p. The youn^^est, Robert, 
" mode over the estate, title, and anus (by disposi- 
tion with a procuratory resignation) in favour of 

• "With LinuCation of the Ilonouc to \i« U.i\t, K*- 
sigD*, or wAonwevtr h« tltould name." 




Thomas R. of that Ilk ; his cousin (ion of John 
Kcitherfurd of EUzerston, lineally descended from 
Thomat, second son of James, first Baron of Ed. 
zerston "), vho married Catharine, daughter and 
heir to Walter Biddle of Minto (bj Catharine, 
sister to Sir John Nisbet of Dirleston), He bore 
the arms of fiiddle and Nisbet quarterly, and his 
paternal arms of Butherfurd in surtout. Debrett 
girei 1724 a* the date of extinction of the title. 
Hbhbt W. S. Taxlob. 

OuPHAKT ■(2»* S. ix. 386. 434.) — Li Duchesne's 
list of Battle Abbey-roll given in the Appendix 
to Thierry's Norm. Cong, by Hazlitt, 1847, vol. i. 

fc4I9., occurs the name of Olifaunt. Can this 
the origin of the modern Oliphant ? It does 
not appear in either of the lists by Leland given 
with the above. The variation noticed by your 
correspondent (p. 434.) is doubtless a misnomer 
for Oliphant, though with reference thereto it is 
worthy of remark that the Lords Oliphant of 
Scotland bore for supporters the cumbrous ap- 
pendages of itDo elephants, though neither arms 
nor crest bear any allusion to the idea conveyed. 
Burke in his Armory gives one or two instances 
of crests of families of the name bearing reference 
to the supposed connexion with elephant, for 
which there seems no countenance afforded by 
the arms accompanying, which uniformly are 
composed of the crescents borne by the ancestor 
of the house. David do Oliphant, whose seal, ap« 
pended in witness " to several donations" (of King 
David I.) to relifrious places, particularly in one 
to the priory of Coldingham, bore three crescents 
which were most probably of Eastern origin. 

Henbt W. S. Tatlob. 

Baftishal Names (a™" S, ix. 475.)— Mr. H. 
W. S. Tatloe, writing on the subject of baptis- 
mal names of rare occurrence, says ; — 

" Two at least of the names of Job's three daughters 
may be occasionally seen. I have a faint recollection of 
once meeting with the third." 

There were recently baptized in one parish, in 
Leicestershire, two children, who now rejoice in 
the name " Kerenhappuch." There is a strange 
fondness for Scripture names in the place, e. g. i 
Keziah, Eunice, Ebcr, Tamar, Ezra, Benoni, &c. I 
And of tlie same family as the Kerenhappuchs 
arc Coniab, Er, Manoah, Zillab, Drusilla : as also, 
which rather startled the officiating minister, 
Ellen Abijah ; for he did not recognise, at first, 
the latter as the name of a woman in Scripture. 

S. S. S. 

Powell's "Official Handbook to Bbat," 
ETC. (2"* S. ix. 462.)— When the Handbook re- 
ferred to made its appearance I wrote to the pub- 
lisher pointing out numerous errors it contains 
relating to this city ; and I have now merely to 
repeat that "Southey was born at No. 11. Wine 
Street, Bristol" Gxobqb Fbtcb. 

Chdbch Towbbs (2°* S. ix. 342.) —The caihe- 
dral of Exeter has two towers, and they are id* 
the centre, neither over the altar, nor at the wert 
end, but formins the transepts. . One of theie 
towers (northern) appears to me larger and higher 
than the other ; ana this I understand is not ac- 
oidental, but as symbolical of the supremacy of 
the spiritual over the temporal power. Is thia the 
caser If so, I shall be grateful to any oorre* 
spondent of " N. & Q." who will kindly refer nte 
to aathority on the subject. A. C. M. 

CBRTENABiAinsM (2*^ S. X. 13.) — In eorrobcvB* 
tion of the remarks made by J. R., II.D., I instance 
a case which recently came under my own notice. 
An old woman who was supposed to be nearly « 
hundred years old died. Her age at destii wai 
given to the registrar of deaths, and was inserted 
on her coffin as 96 or 97, I forget which. I had 
the curiosity to inquire into the date of her bap» 
tism, having previously ascertained that she had 
been baptized in early infancy. The result of mjr. 
inquiry proved tliat her real age at death was br 
many years short of that whioi had been stated 
to the registrar and on the coffin. W. 0. 

Eleoy oh Frederick, Frincb or Walis' (2** 
S. X. 2. twte) — The following rather different ver- 
sion is given in Walpole's Memoirt of Oeorgt the 
Second, i. p. 504. (quarto edition) : — - 

"Here lies Fred, 
Who wai alive and is dead | 
Had it been his father, 
I had much rather : 
Had It been his brother. 
Still better than another; 
Had it been his sister, 
No one would have missed her ; 
Had it been the whole generation. 
Still better for the nation ; 
Bnt since 'tia only Fred, 
Who was alive, and is dead. 
There's no more to be said." 

R. F. Skbtcblbt. 

ToADB FOUND IN Stonb (a-"* S. X. 10.)— Hie 
last account of this oflt«n-cited phenomenon oc- 
curred at Barking in Essex about ten yean aoo, 
where, in taking down a defective pier in the 
church, a living toad was found in the solid stone. 
The architecture is Earl^ English, _ bo thiU the 
creature must have been in that position at least 
600 years. Can any reader of " N. & Q." tell mc 
what became of him? It was said one of the 
clergy kindly took him under his especial protec- 
tion, and provided him a safe retreat in his garden. 

Poets' Comer. 

CoQUBLiNEB (2'' S. z. 11.) — It Is nevcr safe to 
conclude that a word has not a certain meaning 
because it is not found in the dictionary we may 
be in the habit of using, evon if it be the Die' 
tionnmre de P Academe. It is abrard to aiqipaN 




tftkt Cotgrave oould have confuiindcd auch irordi 
it dodeHuer and coquthnrr ; nnd Cbanibnud fiives 
M a familiar expression, coqurlmtr un enfant, to 
dandle, to cocker, 16 pamper a child. AV. U. 

Thb SpANigH PiLGHiM (2"* S. ix.503.) — In 
my ciipj of this work I find the following in the 
handwriting of a former owner who signs bimself 
•• Tho. Baker, ColL Jo. Socius cjeclus : " — 

" I scjid yoa 2 Books, tho English G»Dtloinaii nnd 
Spanish Pilgriinc, the author of tlie lout being yonr mnn- 
tiTinan and soma •J4 3-urs old, nnd wim in Towno here 
•n4 gave to every licad of ■ (;oll«dg<i ono of bia Books, 
ltc> Bead it, and jou will lind ctraaga paaaagM of that 
joDg maa'a miaerias. 

" Toura, &c 
" Chriat ColL Nov. 1 [ 1C29]. " Joseph Mkad. 

" To S' BUrtin Stuteville, K«. at 
Dalharo, Suslik." 

As The Spanish Pilgrim contains no personal 
narrative, this letter must refer to another work 
bearing the same title.* Dsivta. 

Ehd (2"^ S. vJii, 432. 522. ; ix. 493.)— Your 
■ correspondent seems not to be strictly correct in 
hit etymohj)j;v. Lane End, for instance, is a con- 
sideratjle village in the middle uf the high road 
from Alarluw, while at Wood End, not far off, 
then! is but one house. I think, however, the 
difliciilty maybe solved thus : — In the register of 

I the pnnsh of Great Hampden, Bucks, are the 
following entries of burials : — 
" K7H. Mary Harper, the wife of Will"' Harper, who 
dyed in a barnc at Honour Knd, or Inn, was buried SI 
day ofOctob', 1678. 

" 1682. Anne \Villialn!^ widow, a TrnvelltT who dyad 
At Honor Iiine bame was buried the 2C of Juac, ltitJ2, 
_ " 1776. Dec. 28"'. M'. John Ston*. of Honor's Inn." 

I The spot is always culled Honor End to this 
H day. Some years u^o this pflrt of the country 
H was nearly nil wild common, with very bad roads, 
^ and there were no doubt solitary inns at short 
distances for the nccommodntion of the few per- 

tsons who might have business at the different 
villages or scattered farm-houses. The " Tra- 
vellers," n nome given to howkers, and what we 
call " tramps," usually slept in the bnrns. From 
tbe circumstunce that the pince nlhided to i:i 
called inditlerently Honor End ond Honor Inn, 
we might gnlher thot when, from chnnge of times 
and improved methods of travelling, these inns 
fell into disuse and were closed, the name still 
remained att.iched to the spot ; but ns tho inn 
was no longer there, the word end was used in 
preference. A. A. 

Po«t6* Comer. 

Baktivs: Blauweli. (2** S. ix. 502.) — The 
lowing excorpt from Crawfurd's Peerage of 

[* James Wadaworth, who was a native of SdfTolk, had 
last publlshnd 7^* Kmgliih Spanish PUffrim, 4to. &ec 
Wood's Atlimu, iv. 1077.— Ed.] 

Scotland, published at Edinburgh in 1716, from 
p. 33~4., will answer the query put : — 

" Gtorge Ogitrl* of Dirnlapass .... married Beatrix, 
dnnichtcr of Gtorgo Lord 8raton. by whom he bad 
H'alUr lii) tuccritor, and a dauehter married to Sir 
Alexander Frazer pf Philorth. i/« departed this lifa 
anno JGi2, in Ute uiicommoH agt ot 105. Upon him Dr. 
Johnston wrote this epitaph: — 

" Vixit Olympides tcr wptem Banfius a-tos, 
Ter fuit illiistri postcrilnte minor: 
Virtutes nnmera, pancoa Ilquiiae nepotes 
Cum perils paucoa evolulsae dies." 

Hence this very aged individual, certainly 
George or Sir George Ogilvy of Banfl*, was the 
" wnrlhj " whose name your correspondent Q. 
desires ; and it may be only added, as shown too 
by the above work and other authorities, thnt 
George his grandson (through Sir Walter, bis 
son and heir) was created a baronet by Charles I. 
in 1627, and afterwards Lord Banff in 1642. 
This noble house continued until early in the 
present century, when it liiiled in the direct nmle 
line, and the honours became dormant, but rcpie- 
aentntion as heirs general by female descent, 
together with the estates, now vest in the old anii 
kniglitly family of Abcrcromby of Birkenbog. 


The Lion asi> the Unicohh ('J"* S. ix. flOl.) 
— James I. wns the first who united the lion nnd 
uTiicurn beraldicaliy, adopting the latter bcust from 
the supporters of the Scottish sovereisns. The 
conjunction of these animals on an ecclcsiasticnl 
vestment of the period of the Reformation must 
be attributed to religious symbolism rather than 
to any heraldic arrangement : the lion typifying 
fortitude and strength, while the unicorn is em- 
blematical of fortitude and chastity. As such 
the former may have reference to our Lord " the 
Lion of Judah," nnd the latter may be an emblem 
of the blessed Virgin filary. The tradition with 
regard to the unicorn, that it would never be 
caught, except by a virgin, and that if its akin 
was at all defiled it pined away and died, is well- 
known. Its capture was a favourite subject with 
the mediaeval artist. I have before met with these 
Hiitury of St. PauFs. G, W. W. AIinss. 

Pekcii. WRirrsG (-i'^S. ix. 403. ; x. 15.)— It is 
probable that Slartial (xiv. 6.) by the word pugil- 
lare^ means the smnll portable memorandimi- 
book or tablets carried by the Romans, which 
were either tHin slips of wood (id. 3.) or of ivory 
(called from the number of leaves diptycha, trip- 
tycha, &c. &c,) .and covered with wax to be written 
upon by the stilus, by which also the writing could 
be easily effaced. That Martial alluded to this 
seems clear from i7;. 4., where the five-lenveil 
tablets are called " Quincuplici cerft." It would 
occupy too much space to ftn.\KS mVn *,\siiM|,M«Swfc 

luuls as a jiuwdcring for a vestment, I think 
ing tbe Inventories in Sir Willinm Dugdale's 



on the manner of writing among the Romans, nnd 
on their varioua materiolg ; it miiy be, however, 
perniiUed to refer to Suetonius, AVro, 17., where 
cera evidently means a waxed page of a tabula. 
I can lind no mention or allusion to graphite or 
plumbago in Pliny or any other classic author. 
It is in fact a very rare mineral, and chiefly found 
in England. As S. B.'s question is very in- 
feresling, I will cite a passage which will prove 
it to h.nve been in use at any rate alwut the time 
of James I. It is in Ben Jonson'a Epicane, v. 1. 
Mavis asks for pen nnd ink to write ; Sir John 
Diw offers his box of instruments. Clerimont, 
who through the play sneers at his pedantic fop- 

Ein^, asks if they are surgeim'ji instruments ; and 
,n Foole answers, — " No, for the maihematieks, 
his square, his compasses, his brass pens, arnl 
black lead to draw maps." Can any of your 
readers direct me to nn earlier mention, or inform 

me why a lead 

Kylevine pen ? 

Poeti' Comer. 

To CALX A a 
456.; 2" S. ii. 26. 120.; 

pencil is ^called in 

Scotland a 
A. A. 

Spadk (1" S. iv, 274. 
iii. 474.)— To the illus- 
trations of this phrase which have already been 
collected, the fulluwinr; may be added. Erasmus, 
in his Adagia (ed. Elzevir, p. 369.), citing the 
Latin saying, 

" Ficus ficu^ ligODem ligonem vocat " 
and its Greek equivalent 

refers to Aristophanes for the original idea, and 

" Nam ego, quamadmadara ait Comieui, rusticanua 
■um, et lignnGm ligonem Appetlo." 

These passages were doubtless in the mind of 
Rabelais when he wrote 

" Nona sommes simples gents, paisqu'il pliiit & DIeu ; 
et ^ppellons le» Hgitea flgaea, les prunes prane«, et lea 
poir«« poires," — Pantagrud, liv. iv. chup, liv., 

and suggested to Boileau the formula by mean,* 
of which, employed in a distich, the simplicity arid 
terseness nf which has rendered it proverbial, he 
has conferred on ika nurao of Charles Rolet, — the 
&me damnee of the palace, the Vollichon of the 
Jiomaii Bnurgeoii of Fureti&re, — an unenviable 
immortality : — 

" Je ne puis rien noimner, *i cen'cst par son nom; 
J'app«lle un chat nn chat, et Rotet an fripon." 


CoLLBOK Saltwo (2** S. X. 10) — As an 
addendum to the interesting communications you 
have at various times inserted on this subject, I 
send you an extract from a " Friigment of Auto- 
biography, 1C37 — 9," recently published in the 
ShafUtburt/ Papert by Mr. Christie (Murray), 

showing bow the famous Earl put an end to the 
practice of " tucking a freshman " at Exeter Col- 
lege, Oxford. It had been 

" a foolish custom of attttX antiquity that one of tlis 
seniors in the (-rening callciil thn frcshiiicn (nhich are 
such as came sinoc that time twelvemonth) to (tio fire, 
and made them hold out their chin, and they with tha| 
nail of their right thumb, left long for that pu 
grate off all the akin from the lip to thi- chin, and theii] 
cause thflin to driuk a beer (class of water and ult. Th< ' 
time approaching when I ihoold be thns nsed, I ana.' 
aidered that it had liappened in that year more >ad 
lustier young gentlemen had come to the college 
had done in several years before, so that the ft^shmea 
were n very atrong body. Upon this 1 consulted nt» 
two cousiu-germans, nir aunt's sons, tratb freshmen, bota 
■tout and very strong, and several others, aad <il last th« 
whole party were cheerfully engaged to stand stoutly ia 
defence of their cbius. We all appeared at the firca in 
the hall, and my Lord Pembroke's sod, calling m« flnti 
as we knew by custom it would begin with me, I ac- 
cording to agreement gave the signal, striking him a 
box on the ear, and immediately the frcibmen fell on, 
and we easily cleared the buttery and the hill, but 
bachelors and young masters coming in to as-sisl tb 
seniors, we were ('oni|talied to retreat to a ground floi 
vhamber in the quadrangle." 

I will not proceed with the battle, whicli 
suited in the triumph of the freshmen, and tb 
"utter abolition in that college of that foolls 
custom." D. S. 

WssTMUrsTER Hai.i> (2»* S. ix. 463. 513.)—^ 

About five-and-thirty years ago, some very care 
ful admeasurements of this noble building 
made under tbc able direction of the elder Pugin, 
the results of which were these following : — 

InUmal Dimtnthni. 

Extreme length - • - - 2S8 fl. 6 

Ureadth at the south end • • - 68 

Breadth at the north end - - - 67 1 

Height ofwalla to the wall plate - 43 

Ertemat Dinuniiont. 
(The walls are 10 ft 4 in. thick.) 
Length of the hall - - - - 259 fL 4 in. 
'I he towers at the north end project berond the 
wall, 20 ft. 4 in., making the extreme length, 279 ft. 8 in 
The breadth of the ball variea from S' ft. ii io. to 

The flying buttresses on the east and west side 
are not placed at regular distances from the wall 
nor are they themselves of equal dimensions. Thfl 
six on the west are placed, on an overage, 18 '^' 
3 in. from the wall, nnd are 13 ft. long, more 
less; making the whole projection on the we»f" 
side about 31 ft. 3 in. 

Only three buttresses remain on the east aidej 
these are set closer to the wall, being about 10 T 
9 in. therefrom, but are of the same averuge le 
as those on the west side. 

The whole building, therefore, extends in breatlt 
about 144 ft. (The buttresses arc, for the mo 
part, concealed by the law coitrts and other build 
mgs abutting upon them.) 


S** a X. July XI. •GO.3 





ft. 1 in. 










The towers at the uorth end are 47 ft. apart, 
and each is 25 ft. 4 in. wide, making the whole 
breadth of the facade 97 ft. 8 in. 

Exiental /{eigJU. 
Of the hall to tho paripets 
or tha hall to the ridge of the roof 
Of the U»ll to the gables - 
Or the linierii over the roof 
Of thenorlli loweri ... 
or the north pinnacle 

VowBi- SouwDs (2"^ S. X. 8.) — J. J. S. will 
find in the pronouncing dictionnries, and in such 
vrorki! as Nares's OrthoUpy, materiuta for the inves- 
tigiitlon of which he spciiks. 

Tho words to which hi.'» second Query refers nre 
all, with ihe exception of llie liut, of Semitic 
urii.'!n. And the juxtaposition of the two a's in 
such words is simply on attempt to represent lo 
the Indo-European eye and esir iho nearest ap- 
proximation to the Semitic form. 

For instance, Aaron is a Irisyllahle (PIl!*?), in 
vihich the initials of the first and second syllublea 
are aapirate^. In the LXX. that triayllulile w:ia 
repreneni^'d by the word 'Aap«v, whence of course 
our English form. 

.J. J. S. must supply a alight aspirate between 
the two «'f, an<l throw the accent furward in oriler 
to approximate towunls the right pronunciation 
of the words which he instances. W, C. 

The English rules of pronunciatiort of Hebrew 
proper names may be fciuitd in Walker's Keif. 
The word Aarou is so commonly pronounced 
Ay-ron as to m:ike it pedantic to use the Hebrew 
pronunciation Ah'-a-rOn. So also Canaan, con- 
ventionally Cay'-nau, is in Hebrew Ca-niih'-an. 
Nay'-a-maiL, as usually pronounced, is in Hebrew 
NSJi'-S-man. Bay'-al is Bah'-al. The Arabic 
words; Caaba and Salaam are represented by 
Lane {Mwl. Egypt, ii. 243. 233.) as Ku-a-beh and 
Se-I6m, where the letters a are like a in "' father." 
Dr. Hyde Clarke makes Kraal u dissyllable, 
Krd-al, a word imported by the Dutch from the 
Hottentots, where niso the a as in ^^ father " is the 
received pronuiiciulion. A as in " itay " is not 
properly heard in miy of these words. The con- 
ventional pronunciation of Christian names bor- 
rowed from the Bible varies much from the 
Jewish, the latter being far from enphorvtous tu 
an English ear. T. <T. Bdcktok. 


KirE p. Drivk (2"" S. x. 17.) — Allow me to 
remind Sewescens that many expressions to be 
found in our Authiu-ised Version of the Bible are 
now vulgiirisnis. One would not, for instance, in 
■A lAily'a drawing-room, speak of a young woman 
•« a " wench." The only guide as to what are 
vtilgaristns of speech is the practice of good so- 
[ oietj. And I imagine that the ufe of the word 

'• ride," to denote being conveyed in k carriage, 
is utterly unknown in educated society. At all 
events, I for one have never heard the word so 
used by persons of education and good social 

Jlr. Brislcd, who spent some years in the best 
society which Trinity Collepe, Cambridge, could 
afford, notes in an essay published some yenra 
ago the use of the word " ride " in puch a senso 
as decidedly an Americanism. lie evidently had 
never discovered, during his five years' residence 
at Cambridge, that educated Englishmen at- 
tached any other meaning to the word ride tlmn 
that of being tarried on horseback. W, C. 

Charles Joumston (2"^ S. x. 9.) — Abuba will 
finil iti Chnliiiers's Biographical Dictionary an ac- 
count of Charles Johnston and his writings, about 
two pages iu length, "derived from variouB anony- 
mous authorities,"' with references to several vo- 
lumes of the GentlcmiiHS Magazine. 'AKuis. 

A few particulars about him will be found iu 
Rose's Biographical Dictionary, vol. ix. ; in Chal- 
mers' ditto, vol. xix. ; and in the " Prefiitory 
Memoir," BaUnntyne's Englith NovelinU, vol. iv. 

R. F. Sketcui-ey. 

Stbxch AMD Smell (2"* S. x. 7.) — " Vloudel" 
is a uii.spi iiit for " Vondel." Smollett did not 
iniinufacturc the quotiition, but probably quoted 
from lueuiory iu u languiiyu of which he knew 
little. It is Btraiigft that Vondel, who could write 
well and easily iit verse, should have trauslaled 
Ovid's Epistles and the Odes and Ars Poetica of 
Horace into prose. He reudcrs Qui) mvtta gra- 
cilis §T. : — 

"O Pyrrhil wat raiiko jout;elini;, stinkende van civet 
en muskeljaeu omhelst u op {;<>straida roozen, in een ge- 
no«geIijl£ pricel ? " — Q. HdrnLlus Flncciis, Lierzangen en 
Dichlkunst, vertaelt door J. van Vondel, t' Amaterdiui, 
1703, p. 4. 

I agree with E. M. as to the meaning of stinken, 
and 00 not remember any instance of its being 
used in a complimentary sense. Vondel wna a 
great poet, hut an iiidiffei-cnt scholar. Perhaps 
by " atutkende " he meant oftrperfunicd, as a youth 
wight easily be with i$udi odours. II. B. C. 

U. U. Club. 

Six Towbks on tuk Coast (2"'' S. ix. 344.) 
— The Duke of Richmond's " Six brick towers" 
were never erected, or at least never completed. 
The money for the purpose was refused by the 
House of Commons, decided by the Speaker's vote. 

Fort Miirtelli), which rejjiilscd two of our fri- 
gates, the Fortitude and the Juno, stood on the 
coast of Corsica. It was taken afterwards by a 
rejrular siege. Lord Hood commanding, 1794- 

See Annual Regitler, and Universal and Gen- 
tleman's Magazines for those yeiL«» %isms.. 



[2^^ & X Jolt 8L 'Wi 

FumTATioir (2°* S. ix. 442.) — I liave always 
considered this word as of modern manufacture, 
from the verb active, to flirt, viz. to move rapidly 
to and fro, as a lady's fan. I have somewhere met 
with the following : — 

"The expresstve word $tarvatb>n was first ottered by 
the Lord Advocate for Scotland (Dundaa), ia recommend- 
ing measDFea for subdoing the revolted Americans ; and 
the etill more expressive word fiirtaUon first dropped 
from the lips of the beaatirul Lady Frances Shirley, the 
favourite of Lord Chesterfield." 

To " flirt a fan " was a common expression in 
the last a<;c. In an Ode to Lord Bamngton (AT. 
F. H. for Wit, vol. ii. p. 94., ed. 17843 is this 
stanza : — 

" The French an Oaran nicely stnff, 
I've seen one Btanding In his buflf^ 

Who had been ^ay and firisky ; 
He once, like you, could flirt a fan, 
And was in truth a pretty man, 

But died by drinking whiskey." 
Hence it came to be applied to the aSected 
movements of the head, &c., employed by a lady 
who is desirous of " pleasing or attracting." The 
fan itself, if one be carried, is usually brought 
much into play on such occasions. W.D. 

Is not "flirt" as a noun an instance — there 
arc many such in our modern language — of a 
compound word having lost in modern speech its 
last member. To " flirt " as a transitive verb is 
to move rapidly and with sudden jerk. It, like 
"jerk," is probably an onomatopoetic word. 

Hence the compound word & flirt-gill — " I am 
none of his flirtgills. " * The noun a flirt gave 
origin to the verb intransitive to flirt, and to the 
noun of which Lord Chesterfield says that he was 
present at its birth, ^trtofion. 

Possibly the original verb transitive to flirt may 
be connected with the verb " fleureter," which, in 
the time of Cotgrave, had the signification of light 
and rapid motion. But that I much doubt, 
fleureter being a metaphorical word. Compare 
the history of the word wagtail with that oi flirt. 


ENOBAviifas BY Rembbandt (2"* S. ix. 367- 
412.) — When I was a boy or a young man, some 
years ago, on a visit to London, I bought two 
small engravings, ostensibly by Rembrandt. I 
do not know now where I bought them, or what 
I gave ; but considering the probable amount of 
my pocket-money in those days, I dare say I did 
not give above a few shillings for the two. They 
have lain hidden and forgotten in a portfolio till 
recently. One measures 3x2 J inches, and repre- 
sents a f face looking to the left (his left, our 
right), fur cap, jewel over right ear, broad frill 
round the neck, and furred coat Outside the 
left shoulder it bears the word "Rembrandt." 
The other is S x 3^ inches, neaiiy a fiiU flue, no 

* lUm. and Jul. a. S. 

oovering to the head, but long flowing hur, and 
lapel of coat or cloak turned oat. In left-hand 
base it bears " Rembrandt, f. 1646." My Qaeiy 
is. How can I know that these are genuine P 

F. HnxcHuraoK. 
Dedications to thb Deitt (2»* S. ix. 180. 
266. 3S0.) — The following account of a case of 
the kind was sent mc in ISdS, by a late distia- 
guished naturalist. Dr. Johnston, of Berwick- 
upon-Twecd. I am sorry his letter affords no 
clue to the author's name, but it will [orobably be 
known to some of your readers, as so large % 
work must have attracted attention : — 

" I have just got a book in three larse volomss, wiittsn 
by a Frenchman, with the title, ' ThMlogie de U Katurs.' 
It is a sort of Bridgewuter treatise. I have read little 
more than the first hundred pages, and the work is wril 
done and ably, and I think it carious as coming from a 
French naturalist and savan. But lol the Ffandiaaaa 
dedicates the book — to whom ? Tou would aevar gnssi 
— and really it startles one with its andaeitjr and pn> 
faneness— and yet the man is neither profane nor auda- 
cious — ' a Dieu notre Fire!' " 

Maboaut Gattt.. 
Baxkaile,' ob BALCAII.E (2*' S. ix. jf02.) it in 
Wigtonshii-e, in the parish of Glenloce, and eloM 
by the town of Glenluce. The name of the pre- 
sent proprietor is " Adair." 6. J. 



Knuin'i oritiaial Edition of Siakwkuu. S Volt, in fmu. 

• •• liStton, •Utinai partlealan uid lomt nriot, oorriaaiJtlSitlJfeS 
■ant to Miami. Biu. « Daut, PabUitWft of" IlDTiB AHB 
UUEBIES," l«S.riMtStn«t. 

PW«ieBlanorFi1ce, the IMlowiiic Boolu tolia 
the iratlunen br whom they u« nanited, wul when 
dnMM w* glna below, 

FniAim't Woass. II Voli. Itnio. 

Wuted hj Mr. Kttgktltt, KoriUk*. 


Th> Natiomai. Bkvikw. No. 7. 

Kjmn'iFnar Maoaiuii. rutl*,jriUr, ISISi fkti n.laal. IS 
Fait 10, June, I9<3. 

VTuited br C. OaOden, BookMUer, 41 . Wsh StNtt, OsBtaAnr. 

We art laatoblailt eomptlUd l» pctlpoin nxM nut ■Mftow hmI 
Notee OR Bookf. 

E.N. ntJim- 

" The child Ii father to the man." 
U/rum W(»r<Uworth'f ** Jfti hrart haps up.** 
8. 8. 8. Popt'i Ebu)- on Criticiam,— 

" For roolj nuh in where aaceU ftar to tread," I. Ui. 

A Niw SuBicaiaiR. Canniog mat Uit trriltr l)^The L»na of (kS 

AiMtvu. nc nacipaper oaraanapA oa tk* orlfrim O^M* nitUt M Aa 
naiioitai emblem tif Scotlnnfl 19 tn^nlrtt in our lit S. v. SSI. 
it not olhiHM In either bu Xith^t in hit Hanldry or Sir M- 
(a Wi HMUT of tha Urdcn of Knighthood. 

Noraa ako Qoaaiu" it paMukad <ii iisaa oa Efldar, aa4 A aim 
— ledl ta HoirTMLT rAaia. 2m niuer i p t i m ^ Seawpsa Oonaa f 

' t Koaa) it Da. 4d., «WU wua M 
•r U i mm i. Baaa AaaPaiarTlSS. 



I & X. 3m.r is. *DO.l 




I! ) 
— !■ 

N». S89.— CONTENTS. 

NOTB8 : — BUhop Redull, dl — Touib Beoordi^ « — Unnub- 
llshtKl Iintt4>r ot Ullrer Cromwell. M — Are Crittos Logi. 
riftni f 05 — Riiropc «6 It would be. 60. 

Xtxos NoTBR :— Tjnoftntltliioal GirrT In the aathoriMdTcr- 
gjori '-f '»■■ ''"i?li»UBililo — A Hint to PiOjlUhcrs — C»gB 
pf I' ' "11 tlic I)uki> of MoDioouth'i Eiectttlon — 

(liM — Jolili Bowrlnif. M. 


i-H'T — Wajtliiiig iV.c Lions ill ilu' I'owfr 

Tlii Magnetic Declination — Socnn** — 

■P - Lodn Faniitv, Will* of— PolitioiU Po-'in 

r (.•wii.u.jf — ( )lil Ballad: " Up junip«l the MackertI — 

B. VMi SoD.'n I'ainter, n9. 

Qffnuts mTu A?i»wxB*:— Heidelbenr CMtlc — Rlohinl 

Adatnn : Dr. Andrewes — Artillery — Pl»u of Boidognc — 

Bibllosraphr of ProTerbs, MaiimB, Ac. TO. 

BKI'I ' ib»rd Bm-is and its supposed want 

of 1 I?, 70— Tlio Harrow Uni's: Mr. J. 

G '•;, T5 — < >trr>rrl RldlnK ScIkxiI, 74— 

•n.. 7B-8irWlUilim 

Ih: • -Mrs. Lepell — 

Cl< ' vny^The R«gf 

Oj' I ^ Away — Qivotn- 

lioi firsons and D — 

\ liy StcclpofQad' 

iiiiii Muyult— Charles Tl. 
.i\)lf — '<(mij at Monkshpath, 
-Albau butter— PubUoatiou 
if Kanns — t'olt.nil iloukr-, 76, 




(2"* S. vii. pasiim ; viil. 301.) 

Allusion Has been oln^ady rasde in "N. & Q," 

[(2** S. vii. 330.) to Cole's "cxtrenu'ly racy notes 

|on Burnet's Life of Wvt. Ifedell." These nole», 

ritli Buker's, I now ««hi1 entire» wilU a few ad- 

Iditional nuthoritiea wliicb I Imrc met with since 

ly formiT i<oiiiniiinicntinnii, 

MS. Ilail. 6400. J:i n. life of Bedell by one inti- 

ItiiAtely <.-cnnoote<l willi liiin "in the rear of his 

[Lile froiii 3C to the Captivity of the Land in 41," 

vbo Kiiys, " I shall endeavuur to make knowue, 

1 hare heard of him by those I hnd good 

to bclccre, what I heard from himself, and 

Firh«t I myself observed in my abode with him nil 

I that sjmce." It fills 175 4eo. pages, small and 

I cloae hand, and haa some lettcrii and documents 

^Itot in Burnet. It i* stvnnne that Kenneti (MSS. 

]Lan«d.) has no article on liedell. 

lie was in Canihridjic, Oct. 1627. (Birch's Cotirf 
Charlfs /., ii. 274.) There is a letter about 
lim in Sir U. Wotton's Htmains, pp. 329, 330. (re- 
printed \>j Bumel, p. 31.) No doubt Wotton 
efera in him fpp. 399, 400.), where he mentions 
^.•.^ miforter of his absence, and a lov- 

|D ( divider and eascr of hia travels, 

ruix'i \>-y i^idm. Bacon's mediation. One Mr. 
was with Wotton in IS24 (p. 854.: cf. 356.), 

btit this may not have been Bedell. A Bible la 

Irish cliaracter, after Bedell's edition, was pritited 
at Dublin, 1827, roy. 8vo. 

See also Laud's Works, vi. 260. Cola MS. 20. 

p. no. 

I now return to Cole and Baker. (Colo's MS. 
vol. xxxi. J). 58. b. seq.) : — 

"As every note of Mr. Baker ha* its value; go I Miall 
In this )>lac<! traikscribe a few of tbeni nliioli ho hml en- 
tered into his copy of Up. Burnel's Lift 0/ Jip. liedell : 
vrliich copy was sold with Ilia rest of Mr. linker's books 
at an auction in Cambridge, wbile I Was unluckily absent 
from the uiiiversitv, ancl bought by my worthy and e*- 
tcenied (licnd Mr. Icdwiinl Betliam "fellow and one of th« 
bursars of King's College; from whence 1 faithfully 
Imnscribed the MS. notes into my copy of the name book; 
in which 1 have also entered many marginal olMvrva- 
Uons, which I fhall also tranecribe iu this place: nut oat 
of any conceit of their cxcellenct ; but out of regard to 
truth, and to remind myself of the great prvjudico and 
partiality of the i^tch prelate. To pr«vent any mis- 
takes to Kir. Baker's prejudice, 1 shall carefully add at 
the end of each note tha initial letters of our namoa. 

"See two Lctten (original) from Wm. Bedell to Ijidy 
VVray. MSS. Collections, vol. 38. p. 433, -134, T. B. 
[This entry is repealed In nearlv the same words "] 

"See a Sermon of Up. Bedell's pabllsht by Dr. NIcb. 
Bernard, An. 1639, with Bp. I'slicr's DiKOHrmt, p. ft3, 
&c. T. B. 

" See a character of Bp. Be<leH. IhiJ. p. 847, &C. 
T. B, 

"See Bp. of Sarum's ViHtiicatiun, p. 70, 71, Ac. in 
Answer to a Pamphlet, sanposed to b« wrote by«Dr. IT. 
Seep. 87. T. B. 

"See two Lettera of Bp.'6edc1l t« ArchBp. Laud aod 
Ld. Deputy of Ireland in PrN-nne's Canterbury's Doome, 
p. 436, 437. T. B. 

'' ^c« some severe Beflections in a Book, enlltaled, DU- 
eonrtu ijxm Thr. Bunut and Dr. Tiltotvtn, suppoft'd to Ihs 
wrote by Dr. llickej, p. 27, 2a, &c. T. B. 

" See Bayle's Dietitmary, English: Artielt, BtdrO, PITt- 
liam. T. B. 

" VV. Bedle admissus in Matriculam Acad. Cantab. 
(Coll. Eman. conv. 2.}, Mar. 1*.', 1584, IfeRr; T. 11^ 

"1 meet with John Bedel of Blackc-Notlcy, Com. Es- 
sex, yeoman, .Ian. xi. 1590, who hnd a Son of Eman. 
College. See JISS. vol. 2". p. 05. T. B. 

" Wm. Bedell, B.l)., Member of Convocation for tile 
Dioc of Norwich; Feb. 18, 1023. tUgitlrum rogun. 
T. B. 

" See vol. 32. No. 0. p. lo3. of Mr. Baker's Cb&ctfoat, 
at p. 47. of this Volume. W. C. 

" See u Letter from Up. Bedell t» the Lortl Deputy 
Weutworth, dated Feb. ?2, 1637, in Lord Deputy's prititeJ 
Letters. T. B. 

" I hava wrote on the back Of the litle-page as fol- 
lows : — 

" There arc many things of i urioiiiy in this book 1 
which, however, sr^ms calcuUted (o wrve a turn : more 
e«p«ciallr by publisliinK Bl". BedaU's H^mtation ofPoptry, 
at a time, when it was supposed, tkat ngland was mak- 
ing large stride* to that cburcb. 

" It was published in 1667. Towanls the conclusion of 
his preface, he gives a most prodigious high character of 
some Scotch Bps. since the Restoration: calls their Vir- 
ttu A»gtiical; and adds, that be 'saw things in (hem 
that would look liker/oif /c/tw, than what Mtn, cJoathwl 
with Fluk and Blood, ooald grow u^ Vi^.' 'V') ^VxOo. \. 
have nditcd on the it>m^iv. 




" See • Tery different rhiracter of these Scotch Bp«, 
in his HUtoiy nfhU own Time. Vol. i. p. 216. W. C. 

" UnJor II note close to this chanicter, promisinita more 
particular account of the person chiefly referred to in tho 
aforesaid character Ii wrote: Bp. Leigbton died KSM. 
T. B. 

"This, I presume, waj Bp. Layton, or Leigbton, whose 
.charncler is given more at Inrse bv Bp. Burnet, in the 
Bistory nfhia man Tivu. Vol. i. p. 134, HI, See, 28«, 289, 
341,374. o«8. .'.ao. T. B. 

"• A veri- iliffereiii cbsriiclcr is given bim by Dr. Ilickes 
in Snmt Dltenuries on Dr. Biirnrt and Dr. TVkilion, p. 
2.S, 24. T. B. 

•• Leighton diwi An. 1684. at the Bell Inn, in Warwick 
Lane, of a pleurisy, aped above 70. See Bp. Burnet's 
Hislmy, Viil. t. p. .'i^H, .IHl), Scd qiiaiTe. 'Ihia book was 
printed 1U8.'>. Leightoun was ArcbBp. of (jlascovr. 
T. B. 

"On the blank page at the end of the preface I have 

wrolc: Tittrrtiicli Vmeti Hiainria dc Jilotu lial'uK sub Ini' 
tiu Fiinlificiitut I'ntili T'. CotnmentiiriuM, Ant/lore It. P. 
fmilo Sdipin t'encto. Recrni ex Itnlieo conversun. Qjn- 
tabrigia, 1C26. 4to. Dedicated by Wm. Bedel to King 
Chiirleii, in which ho tells bim, that be received it from 
the author when lie was at Venice; but with injunctinns 
not to transcribe it: but after the author's detith, who 
had then nothing to fear from the resentment of the 
court of Rome, he translated it from the Ualian copy. At 
the end of it is bound up with it a small treatise printed 
at Cambridge in lG3r> in 4to. intituled, Quattio quodlibe- 
tica : An liceni ttipendia sub principe reiigione diicrepante 
mtrtre. But by whom wrote, I know not, except bv Bp. 
Boilell. W. C. 

" At p. 14. where be n^enlions Bedel's ineffectual press- 
ing Sir Harry Wotton to present King James bis Pre- 
moHition to all Chritlian Princei and Slala, to the senate 
of Venice, 1 have added : 

" This is Just as probable a slor^- as many others in hla 
ViHory of hit Own Time, and mucli in the marvellous 
and secret -history manner of them. W. C. 

"At p. 20. he sRirnis whnt others speak only doubt- 
fnlly of, viz. : tbnt tlie ArchBp. of Spalato was poisoned: 
on which account I have added on the side: 

" Thi.i is advanced with this nulhor's usual coniidence. 
I suppose he bid no absolute authority to rely on in re- 
gard to his baing poywantd: it being only conjecture that 
he was »o aerved. W. C. 

"P. 27. he sava Bedell would not use bowings: ha 
means towards tlie altar: to which I have added this 
note: Bowing at the name of Jesus, or to the east, was no 
innovation. W. C. 

" P. 38. is part of a letter from Primate Usher to him : 
by it I have put: 

"Vid Letter.i 124. 126. in the Collectum published by 
Dr. Parr, at the end of the Life ot ArchBp. Uther : tho' 
this cited is not Bmong them. VV. C. 

"P. 86. he says ABp. Uther k-os nnt made for tht go- 
vrming part nf hit fututiun : on which acconnt 1 have 
referred in a note to the latter part of the preface before 
the Life of that I'rimate, where Pr. Parr has excepted 
to this particular. [W. C] 

"P. 139. he calls bis couutrymeu's bebariour on ac- 
count of their refusal of tbe Common Prayer, forcing 
their Covenant on everj- one, and putting down episco- 
pacy, ' a *chiimiatictil Jtoge ogaintt the Church, backl with a 
rtheltitnit /'wy againti Me Slate.' To which 1 have oh- 
•arvird on the margin : 

*< This author, as most of his writings were published 

at critical Junctures to serve a party, so none mote evi- 

dCDtly so than this before us. However, to give him his 

dne, this is wrote with much more moderation and 

c-atrc/our ihan most of them. Vet as he wrote of the same 

persons at dilTereot times very differently. So his ceniare 
of the Scotch proceedings before 1640 In this place, i| 
widely different from the arconnl he give* of them in " 
partial Hitlnryofhit Oam Time. W. C. 

"P. J75. He says Bp. Uedcl was so exoct an obser 
of ecclesiastical rules, thdt he would perform no pari 
his functions out of his diocese, without leave from (1 
Ordinary : and gives as en instance of this exactitiule. tha 
being in Dublin, when his wive's dnoler waste be ma 
ricd 10 one Mr. Clogy, and both of them were drsiniua i 
his b'cKving on the occasion, he would iiol du it, till 
first took out a licence for it in the ABp. of Dublin's coq 
siator>'. Upon which I have obeerved u follows in I 
margin : 

"How so exact? when be used not his proper bab 
in the afternoon, when, I presume, there is nn cxcrptia 
for that, no more than for the mornmg. But it is tfl 
plain liy this trifle of his not blessing Mr. Clogy and hlj 
wife, as well as from other occurrences in this lionk, th| 
this Bp. Bedel, ns well as that other Scotch Dp. rA-igt 
toun, of whom this author was so much enRinnured, hu 
ever good, pious and well-meaning they might both 
yet were persons of whim and fancy, if not of great cod 
ceit and affectation. W. C. 

" P. 175, I7fi. isa fearful desrription of the clergy of tl 
Roman Church in Ireland before our confusions in. til 
Grand Rebellion: to which I have I'cmarked: 

" The book seeina to have bcM-n wrote exprcssely to 
prefent tho barbarity of the Irish massacre, in order 
spirit up a faction against King Jatnes 2* at tbe begin 
ning of his rcicn : a passion which grew stronger Wi4 
the author the older he grew. \V. C. 

" P. IMt. He gives a translalimi of a Latin Inter 
1G41 to the titular bishop of Kilntore, whose nmiio w4 
Swiney, from Bp. Bedel; where Ihe Utter telling Bg 
Swiney of his method used with him in his family dev 
lions, as reading tbe Scriptures and using the daiti 
Pra3-ers in English, in order to prevent the lilular 
from coming into the same house with hiro, which, 
seems, he was desirous of; our good Scotch Bp. in ord 
to make his fiivourile Bp. Bedel acceptable to his coxm 
naming and psalm-singing fraternity, takes tho lilxrt 
to add these words ■ and with the tinging of Ptatmt n 
when there is not one word tending that way in (he ori^ 
ginal Latin letter, which ho has given at p. 2ol. Tliii 
it most be confessed, is no very material addition: ret \ 
sufficiently shows that bo was never scnipulous in 
quotations: especially if thcv tended at all lu his fa^ 
vourite system. 1 hnve added by it : 

"Not one word of psalmoily in the original letter: ba 
that, as a mark of a Pnrilun stamp, was foisted In 
good Dr. Burnet, in compliment to his paalni-sija|j^n| 
conntrvmen, \V. C. 

"P.'2'^8. He says that Bp. Be<lel not only Iooke<l up 
the Konian C-atholic Church as idolatrous, but as the Ant 
chrisiinn Babylon, I have noted by the aide: 

"If be hud not, he would not have hod this Sceb 
divine for the writer of his life. W. C. 

" P. 255. he gives a letter from Sir Harri- Wollon ( 
Dr. Collins, whom he calls Collings, to whom, as a nev 
year'fi gift, Sir Henry had sent a picture of tbe famoq 
S«r\-ite Padre Paulo: on wbicit 1 have observed : 

" This very picture, or, as is more probable, a copy froB 
it, is Plill in tho College 1744. viz. in Ring's Collegv 
Cambridge, whore Dr. tkillina was Provost W. C 

" P. 2o7. Mention is made of a visitc from the pdoe 
of Cond^ to Father Paul : where I have noted on tb 

"See the whole conversation that pasted at this visitl 
in the Italian Life of Father Paul, p. 152. &c- The Lll_ 
I referred to is a small 8'" book in Italian in mv jwaaes^ 
■ion, said to be printed at Venice in 16d8, without any 


i^^X. July 28. '60.] 



I of printer : which I nUher (appose to be printed in 
I Hollaoil. Il U cntituled Vila drl Padre Paolo delT Ordiiu 
miU' Srrri t 1\i>lny> litlltt Strtniuima Rrpublica di Veme- 
'lia ■ ■nil liu neither ileilication nor preface. W. C. 

" Tiukt tb the Lift of Bp. Btdtl u ■ parcel or letten 
MtwrMi bim and Mr. Jame* Widdesworth, a couvert to 
1b« Roiaxn Calholie Faith. On the back at the title page 
M wrote: 

"Of lhi« tVaddnworth B.D. beoeficed ia Saflblk, chap- 
\ liiian Bp. nf Norwich, and after to Sir Charlea 

I >vlicu nmbuuaddir to ^pain (1605), see iSru(« 

i .7Tr5 I'li.-litlied by Mr. Sawyer. Vol. 2. p. 109,131, 13€. 
Vho, J. W., perhaps through discontent of a shrewd 
wife, a burthen of cbildron, ami a benefice unequal to his 
desires, brought liiit purpose out of l':n|;iaad &c. P. 136. 
Tha^ give it out, that the king hi-re hath ^iv«a him a 
pension of 40 duckels the month ; which I vet believe 
not: But if so it be, I think lie has made a good ex- 
change of his benefice, tho' an evil one of bis religion. 
Ibid, of Walpole, an English priul. T. B. 

-P. 433. Mr. Bedel in his letter 10 Mr. Waddesworth 
IDcntioDS Arenibaldua, a bishop living at tlic court of 
Bone, who before had been a merchant of Genoo. On 
the margin I have observed, that this assertion was a 
miataka which Mr. Bedel was led into bv Fra Paolo, 
who bad asserted the same in his HiMiory of the Council 
of TVeal. But Father Cuurayer in a note on that passage 
has rectified it from Cardinal Patavicini'a Hiitory of the 
same council; by which it appears that, Arembaldi was 
neitiier a merchant nor a Genoese, but a gentilman of 
Milan, and was not a bithop till 8 years after the time 
•peciBed by Fra Paolo. W. C. 

" V. 446, it a passage relating to resistance, which Is 
different in differeat copies of tho book in question : it has 
a Doto in smaller print under the paasage. On the side I 
have wrote as fullows: 

" It is thus printed in Mr. Baker's edition of the same 
Tear as mine. 1G65, after these wor<la, .^ufAur'i Opinion : 
But tftt for Fear of takiig it In/ the wrong Handle, lite 
Reuder it Jtiirtd to t<ike Notice, TKat a Suhject's refitting 
hi* Prince in atiy cfiuse whataoever, ie unlawful and impinue. 
After which words, Mr. Baker in liis own hand writing 
adds, See in the proper place.* VV. C. 

* " lliis note was added by Sir Roger L'Eatrange the 
licetiaer. of which, and the passages put in crotchets, See 
Bp, of Sarum'e Vimlicalion, p. 70, 71, &c" 

May I reiterate my Inquiry after the notes of 
Fanner nwA Le Neve? Ii. is of the more itaport- 
Knee that all that can lie known of Bedell ahould 
now be brought together, as Dr. Cotton haa roost 
lil}enilly given up his extensive colleetioiis for the 
purpoM of ipcedy publication. I owe to the 
ct>urt«»7 *'^ ^ correspundunt a notice of a long 
letter of Bedell's, givinjr an account of his provost- 
abip at Trin. Coll. Dublin. Of tliis 1 boiie to pro- 
cure a copy. J. £. B. Matob. 

SL Jtbtk't College, CAmbriilgfl. 

Although I should be afraid to attempt an e.xact 
culculntioii of the number (many, many thou- 
sands,) of cburchyanl inscriptions which I have 
carefully eaatniiied, yet I nm souicwhiit surprised 
to find the amall proportion of inlonualion con- 
veyed by them, beyond the name of the deceased, 
with the time of birth and death. In this respect 

one of the moat unaatisfactoTy inscriptiom I evor 
copie<l is the following from a heod-stonc in 
£p»om churchyard : — 

" J. D. died January the ^-Ith, 174.1. Aged 21 years. 
Lord be Mercyfull to nie A Wretched Sinner." 

Here we have a fact olFercd to us, which is ren- 
dered useless by the iuitialislnvt of the name : 
for, who are we to fix upon as the "• Wretched 
Sinner"? An altar-tomb in the same cburch- 
yanl supplies the following, with not only the 
usual particulars, but at one curious piece of 
additional inrormation — his pedestrianising : — 

" In Memory- of Thomas Breaks, Esq., born at Barnard 
Castle, in the County of Durham, bat late of this Parish. 
Lisbon .Merchant. A Genlleman nut less Remarkable for 
his Extensive Travels through Europe, chiefly on Foot, 
than for his Singalar Felicity in Rendering hU Observa- 
tions Pleasing and Instructive toward the Improvement 
of others. Laudably Partial to his native Country, he 
Extended its Commerce by annual Encouragements to 
Improve its Manufactures: A Ciliioa of the World, Pa- 
tron of Industry and Merit, Refuge for the Distress'd, 
and Friend of all. Mankind. Obiit 26th Oct. 1761. .Eiat, 

That tombs might be made to record much 
more than tliey commonly do, is partially shown 
by the forejiointr. and is farther illustrated by the 
interesting epitaph to Richard Philpot.*, lately con- 
tributed t*i this work. Apart from the ubvious- 
ness of the little puu upon Fhil[>ot»'' name, 
doubtless the most Chr'tstiun view to be tvken of 
the liculptured puDch-buwl, llugun, and bottle, 
would be to consider them as emblems of Phil- 
iiut^H* profession, and not of bis faith ; indeed, the 
last line of his epitaph seems to imply as much. 
At all events, the tomb oi' Pliilpots inlbrms us that 
he was a joyous landlord, while its professional 
emblems would serve to attract the eye of the 
traveller. If erected with sincerity, they cannot 
but be considered in ]>erfect harmony with a place 
of Christian burial. One fact, however, is clear, 
churchyard tombs are tiadly deficient in emblems 
and word-information. Of the embleiuatical there 
is a gwMl exoinple in Woolwich churchyard: I 
allude to the large and remarkable figure of a 
lion, standing over the grave of the famous Tho- 
mas Cribb, On a head-stone in St. Paul's church- 
yard at Deptford, erected to the memory of a 
shipbuilder, there is a neatly-executed baa-relief, 
representing a ship upon the slocks just ready for 
the launch. 

As the tombs of professional men do not offer 
one tithe the informatiuu whicli, consistently with 
true modesty, would nevertheless be justifiable, I 
lately felt it to be very refreshing, when journey- 
ing to Rothwell in Northamptonshire, for the sole 
purpose of viewing its church and churchyard, to 
find in the latter a head-stone thus inscribed : — 

" Beneath Lie the Remains of John Cogan, Apothetary ; 
Author of an Eua^ on the Epistle to the Roto«n», •a-^ 
other anonymous p'iec«». M\ ot it^vwtv V« -vxiJoVuicwA. 



cs»t a X JoLt sa < 

more vniXtr « miu« of ttioir Uuth anil imoortance, thnn in 
pro.ipect o( KAin or &ucoe^s, Aftoc « lire of Ubour ond 
triul, he iHcil trusting iilnne id Christ for eternal life. 
Jpril 23rd, 17S1. Aged 80." 

My father had for a fellow-pupil tlie nephew of 
Oliver Goldsmith, and at th« rcHjuest of Oliver's 
brother, my father loUo wed MUa (ioMgniith to her 
grave, in Old St. Pancrns churchyard. No tne- 
morial-stone was erected to perpetuate hor tno- 
morj, or to mark tlie spot as being connected with 
the poet : the barest ntention of which fact would 
have orealixl uiuvh ph'atiurabic interest in the 
mind of the pastinj; stranger ; aa wc really feel to 
be the case when viewing the tomb of Mary Ce- 
celia Haviland in the tame churuhyard, and whaso 
inscription says she was "Widow of y* late Major 
Haviland of ye 45lli Regiment, and Niece of the 
Hiulit Honorable Edmund Burlce." Nol f:ir fVom 
the sp<it where Oliver Goldsmith's niece lies buried, 
tliero is a head-stone which has stood time very 
badly. The lower half of the inscription hns 
crumbled away, but the following tcrap can still 
be gathered : — 

" Here Lip* the DoUy of Hiomas 'Ucst. A Name well 
known to tlic lovers of Angling: who departed this Life 
the 17tli luy of Juno, IRIO, a^ 40 year*. Long In the 
tboniy Vathof Virtus. " 

Thu.-i finding Best's inscription appealing to all 
brothers of the angle, we are led to eonsult 
I^wndcs; from whom we learn that, in 1787, otic 
Thomas Best iiulili^hid the Art of .Angling, to 
which in added the Cmnplctc Fly-Fishfr, a work 
which Lowndes marks as being " frecjuently re- 
prlnte<l." In all probability he whose name was 
so well known to )dl lovers of the gentle art, was 
also the author of the above-mentioned work. 

Before closing the roll of tomb records, I would 
call attention to another "reprinted" author — 
Jo«hua Sturcos ; whoso works wc may become 
acquainted wTlb, from the mention made of them 
on the stone which covers his grave. 1 also find a 
notice ofSturges, and a copy of his inscription, in 
a short-hand letter written by my father in 1S23 
to his fri><nd Thomas Molincux at Macclesfield ; 
he says : — 

" Walking the other Sunday with a friend ia Pancras 
churchyard, he called my atluntion lo a tombitloDe, and 
•aid, 'Yhere lies n man thr King delighted to honour j 
often,' Mid ho, 'hava I heard Sturges remark. It waa a 
real pleaiare to have (he Prince for a pupil, he was such 
an apt scholar; but read,' said be. I did so, and thanks 
to aJiurt-hond wrote it dowp > it wai as fulluwa : — 

" * Sacred to the Memory of Mr, Joshua bturgeo. 
Many year!) a Re>peclablo licencod Victualler iu this 
Parish ; who departed this Life the 12th of August, 1818, 
A(;ed iS years, lie waa esteemed fur the many excel- 
lent Qualitiv.t he piiiaeiied, an<l hii doiire to iin|irove the 
Uiiida, 43 nl«i lo lieiietil Ilia Trade <>l° his IVother Vic- 
taallvrs. Iliii Ueniiu wat aUo eminently diiplayed to 
crcato iimooent and rational iiiuuvemt'nl tn Muiikhid, in 
the Pmducliou uf hia 'I'realiae on tha <llll}cuU |;ame of 
DnuKhta, wlitih Tr^atiM received Iha Approbation of 
AA /VwM^ suJ many other Dlstlnguishad Characters. 

In privslo Life* he wai mild and i«nnuiuming; in 

public capacity neithor the love ni Inion s! to .lumr' 

ease, conid oeparate this faithful '. 

of whif^h ho wai a M'-mln-r, in i 

which his Mi:; 

example was < 

bia VirlHBg be : . _ i 

and respected be his Memory.' " 

As many read tomb inscriptions with a kind ( 
thoughtless pleasure, so, to such, age, with 
times of birtli and death, must appear the leg 
exciting of facts { whereas scraps of history 
biography migiit lead many an idler to some 
dustrlous reflections. Sir John Hawkins, *t>ea|| 
Ing of Edward Purcell, nbservcs that hia " Rittv 
is contained in a inonninenlal inscription nn 
gravestone." This is most true, as may be n 
by turning to Sir John's llittonj of Mutie, who 
the inscription is given. And it i.i for such-" 
Inscriptions that the (bltower of the 
"Weever panteth. Sometime*, after dry 
ings, his thirst is slaked at anme biogrnpliv 
historical stream : as for instance, recently pan 
ing by a black m.irblo slab lying on the ground : 
Lcyton churohynnl, Essex, I with delight rcl 
and transcribed the following : — 

" To the Memory <>f Captain Ilonrv More, Raq., wl 
after n scries of Fifty Yeara Service, nf nblidi ..nvon wo 
in Minorca, sixteen in Olbraltar, nine In tl 
of ficotland, the rest In the shorn nf Pn^-Ui' 
actncfls and Kidellty, was reward' ' ' 
the Office of Sujicr-Inli'ndnnt '■' *H 

Stores on the coaat of I! real Hi 
Luylon, March <lh, 177.S. A|;i>d »1 year*. Krwjlrf 
his two Daughters, Ca-Iieires.<<es of their Mother's Kit 
In Torkshire, and Fsther'a in 11 

tloneil Henry Uoro, second Ski Pahia 

Farm, Gentleman, and last of tin 
Lino, desrended by a second Miirriitxc itttsn 
More, Chief Justica of Kiigland; who. by hia tin 
was Father of Sir Thoma*. Til ' " 
Oxfordshire devolved to the li' ceo 

riagoi which at present, together ' ■ ■ -. Nan 

are no more," 

It is, without doubt, owing lo a general ne^L 
on the part of those who erect memorials 4u 
dead, that the student of family hiatory, whfl 
consulting churchyard tombs, has lo wander aa 
were through ft de!<ert ; while a vnry little con 
sideraliun, and no more words than are couimonlv 
used, might soon turn eaidi God's acre into a rich 
and varied garden, overflowing wilh the flriweii 
of interesting information. Kuwiin Rom:. 

iSomcrs Town. 


S'-— I having receaved this cnclosi<l 
fi'om S' John Alorison, expressing a % 
proceeding against him by the violnoii.u c i ■ 
publi(pie liiiih, becaute his report to M' Att'i < ^ 
gen' lialh nol been yet made to the pari', i eatinn 
but for the vindioacion of the \}*tV* nnnlo* be 

' S. X. Jdlt 28. "M.! 



Iw"" I conceive ore much concerned in itj and Im 
j»wt repnracioti, rccninend it to your fnvour; ^c 
ftirin;? Vim woiiiil with nil speeil ncquniiit the pail' 
witJi tiiii siilistance of this pcticion, and rny hum- 
Me nnil eiiriie.i( request that he may receive the 
intended benefit nf his articles and be freed from 
tbesi) prc&surcs that are now upon him, hie came 
tiuTing been thoiij>ht junt by the army, and so 
JimncrJy rcconieniied to y° honorable speaker. 
And by this favour, not doubtiijg your effect ual 
eatleavourg bcrcun, you will much engage 

Your humble ^crvaiit, 
O. Gromwbll, 
Copp T»'*]n Hootlund, 
July 2(5, 1650. 

I refer you for a more particular knowledge of 
lthi» businos to M' Atl' Gen', who Lath long had 
ifl report in his hands concerning the same from 
I the Coinni" fur Articles. 

(Addrcsied) For 8' Henry Vane, j^n^ 




I always thought they were, and that logio 
was of the very essence of critici«n), till I rend 
the following passage in Mr. Collicr'a lust, mid not 
bc4t, cllitinn of Snokspcare, " Logic has eeJdom 
formetl any mrt of the nualificalions of q ci>ui- 
mentator.' liut pcrha|)s, as this seems to have 
been meant for fne Jate Mr. Singer, it may be 
ironical. Still, to judge by what we ace, it seems 
to hATQ sotuu truth in it ; but I am charitable, 
i^ljjd T il.iiv not logic to critics, I only supjiose 
uetimes to sleep, for opere in (uiigo 
c , . somiium. Moreover, ati the igno- 

rant think all must be true that is printed in n 
book, tiu we are, all of us, more or less inclined to 
think all is right when we see it in print. 

I shall give now two or three instances of this 
oscitancy of the logical faculty from the editions 
of our old dramatists, and 1 take the first from 
the only play that Fletcher ever printed, and 
where he may actually have read the proofs hlni- 


In the Faithful Shepherden* (Act III. Sc. 1.) 
that rascal the Sidlen Ishepherd says of Amoret, 

*• Sb« was alone 

^rir1) m«i if tb*a ber presence did so nioro 

U i.\ iliil I not nssay to win her love? 

Stii> would not »UT« have yi«Med unto me; 

"Vonicn love only opponuDitr, 
nd not tlia man. Or if sbe had denied, 
lone I migbt haro forced hu to hava tried 

Wlio Iiad IJeea Mrong«r." 

As Kir. Dyce lins no note on this, I suppose 
none of hi? prodiT'eMors, no more than himself, 
baid »eun any dilliculty in it ; yet if / have any 
'e the Shepherd gives the very reaion why she 

thoxdd bavo yielded, and if slie had nol yielded 
what was the tise of his putting the additional 
case of her refusal '( Most certainly Fletcher 
wrote " She would most sure have yielded." 

Thati is bad enough, but the next is worce. 
Only think of such nonsense as I am about to 

Sroduce having eluded the acute iutclleels of 
ohnson and Warburton ! 

In Troihs and Cressida (Act III. Sc, 2.) the 
latter says, — 

" Bot you are wise, 
• >!' oUe you love nott for to ha wise and lovo 
Kxceeds man's might; that dwells with gods abovt." 

Was there ever such a reoaon given ? He is 
wise and in love because it was impossible for him 
to be so I Of a verity Shakspeare wrote no such 
nonsense j hi* words must have been " but you 
are mU wise." By the way there are five and 
twenty places in this poet in which the negative 
is certainly or probaoly omitted, and yet the 
critics have observed but seven of them. Where 
was their logic ? 

Among the objects of terror in the soldier's 
dream enumerated by Mercutio, one is — 

" Of htalthi five/ii(AoM deep." 

Now a health is a moral idea, a more wish; and 
what that has lo do with long mcofitire It is not 
cosy to see. But it may be said /lealth is used 
here for the cup or vessel iWim which the health 
was drunk. I have met with no instance of this 
sense ; and even if there bo one it docs not mend 
the matter, for Master Silence, who was no man 
of war, t-ings, — 

" Flit the cup and let it come, 
I'll pledge you a mils to the botttim." 

A cup only five fathom deep could hare but 
little terror then for a soldier. 

The fact is Shakspeare must have written a 
different word, and 1 incline to think that that 
word was Irenefics, which has in its favour the 
dncltu literanim, and its throwing the metric ac- 
cent on_/?Fe, which increases the terror. 

There are other places where the oormption ka* 
been perceived, and may be easily cured, though 
the attempts of the oommentalors nave been utter 
failures. For example : — 

" Earth's oncrcase, foison plenty, 
Barns and garners never empty, 
Vines with clustering bunches crowing. 
Plants with goodly burden bowing, 
Spring come to thee, at tlio farthest, 
In the very cad of liarvmt. 
Scarcity and want slmll elinn yon ; 
Ceres' hlMsing Is upon you I " 

Tanpest, Act IV. Sc. 1. 

Now this sets grrammar at deliance, and the iifth 
line is pure nonsense. Spring come at the end of 
harvest ! But rend Shall instead of Spring, and 
wo at once get grammar and sense. But ShalL l& 
not like Spring. W\ \ taxk ^ft-j "w, V'^*"*' xvaV Vsw^ 




since I sent he uktU, verj legibly written, to a 
printer's, and it came to me the local. 

Tliere is Another piece of nonsense in our dra- 
mntist, where a substantive has in like manner 
talcen the place of an auxiliary verb. In Kii^ 
John ^Actll. Sc. 1.) the Bastard says of Austria, 

** It [the lion's robe] lies as sightly on the back of him 
As great Alcides' ihoei upon an ass." 

Oh, the nonsense that has been written here ! 
and all because the critics did not see that the 
poet's word must have been shovld. 

One more and I have done : — 

" How may likeness, made in crimes, 
Makin)r practice on the times. 
To draw with idle spiders' striogs 
Most ponderous and substantial thinfcs." 

Meas.for Meat., Act III. Sc. 2. 
This, Mr. Dyce says, is " a passage in which it 
seems hopeless to ascertain what the poet really 
wrote." Now / do not regard the case as bpr any 
means hopeless. Wc have only to omit To m the 
third line, and we get jjrobably " what the poet 
really wrote." And we can easily see how the To 
came there. The printer took practice in the pre- 
ceding line for a verb, and to make grammar he 
added To. I need hardly observe thait draw con- 
nects with tnay in the first line. Likettess is simu- 

Such are a few samples of the contents of a 
volume I have written on the text of Shakspcare, 
but which may possibly never see the light. 

Thomas KBiaHTi.sT. 

A clever little philosophe of the last century, 
the Abbe Galiari, amused himself, on the 27th 
April, 1771, with writing to his friend Madame 
d'Epinay from Naples a sketch of " Europe aa it 
would be in a Hundred fears." The conjecture 
of a wit^ cast at random, sometimes hits nearer 
the mark than might have been antici[>ttted. As 
only ten years are now wanting to the period of 
fulfilment, it may be as well to know the fate 
which, according to the Abbe, awaits us : — 

" In 100 years we shall resemble the Chinese much 
more than we do at present. There will be two very 
distinct religions : the one, that of the higher and let- 
tered clas.<e8; the other, that of the people; which will 
be divided between three or four sects, living on tolerably 
good terms with each other. Priests and monks will be 
more numerous than they are now : moderately rich, ig- 
nored, and tranquil. The Pope will be notliing more 
than an illustrious Bishop, and not a Sovereign. They 
will have pared away all his temporal dominions, bit by 
bit. There will be large regular armies on foot, and but 
little fighting. The troops will perform admirably on 
parade, but neither officers nor soldiers will be fierce or 
brave: they will wear rich uniforms, and that is all. The 
chief sovereign of Europe will be the monarch of our 
Tartars : that is to say, the prince who will possess Po- 
/toii Saaiia, jutd Pnunt, and command the Baltic and 

the Black.Sea. For the nations of the North will always 
remain leas cowardly than those of the Sooth. The re- 
maining Princes will be under the political auataiy of 
this predominant Cabinet. 

" England will separate herself from Europe, as Japan 
bos done from China. She will unite herself with Mr 
America, of which she will possess the greater part, and 
control the commerce of the remainder. There will be 
despotism everywhere ; but despotism without cruelty, 
without efl'usion of blood: a despotism of chiconeiy, 
founded always on the interpretation of old laws, on tht 
canning and sleight of the Courts and lawyers ; a dctpo- 
tism of which the great aim will be to get at th« wealth 
of individuals. . Happy in those days the mlllionnaim, 
who will be our mandarins ! Tbey will be everythiog, 
for the military will serve only for parade. Manufac- 
tures will flourish evcrywhure, as tUey do now in Indiit" 
— Qnre^ndeHce, vol, i.'p. 222. 

H. MutlTALB. 

Mixvax SioUt. 

Ttpoobapuical Error iir thb authoeimd 
Yersion of the Emgmsh Bible. — In almost 
every edition of the authorised version of the 
English Bible which has appeared for the lost two 
hundred years, there is a misprint at Epb. ii. 13. of 
" sometimes " for ^' sometime." The earlier Eng- 
lish versions give " once," or " at that time ; " the 
Douay version "some time." The editions pub- 
lished by the Beligious Tract Society have "tome- 
time." This undoubtedly alone is correqt ai a 
rendering of the Greek trori. I should feel obliged 
to anyone who has access to a copy of the edition 
of 161 1 for information as to the reading of the 
passage in it.* In the Oxford reprint of this edi- 
tion (1833) the reading "sDmetimeB** is given; 
but in the edition issued by tbe American Bible 
Society (New York, 1852), and which professa 
to follow King James's version according to the 
edition of 161 1 verbatim et literatim (obvious mis- 
takes excepted), the reading given is "somcdnw." 
Which is the correct transcript P and if " some- 
time" be the reading in the edition of I61I, wbn 
and how did " sometimes " usiurp its place P 



A Hint to Publisuers. — A new edition of the 
Beautie$ of Jinglaiul and Wales is much wanted. 
The last edition, in 25 vols. 8vo., is half a century 
old. B. C. 

Case of Bells. — I met a farmer on the moors 
between Conibinartin and Trentishoe in Nwth 
Devon, and getting into talk with him, I priused 
the tower of Cnmbmartin church, to which praise 
of mine he fully a<'sented, adding, "And it hat 
such a fine cage of bells" Struck by the expres- 

[* In the first and second editions of the folio Bible of 
ICll, the word is printed n>iH<<iflui. The second cditloa 
has many typographical variations from the preceding, 
as in the same verse (Eph. ii. 18.) the word Am ia Uw 
first is spelt /or in the second editloa*— Ed J 

t—S.X. J\n.r J& "BO.] 




Jon I a«k^ him to repent it ; this be goodnatur- 
\W did, and to my remnrk that I had never 
beard it bel'ure, lie replied that it wns the uom- 
tnon one in those parts. J. K. Uighclekb. 

Mbdal ox thk Dtits or Mosjuocth's Exrcd- 
TtoN. — The St. Jamen't Chronicle, Jan. 19 to 21, 
'1796, gives an Explmiatioti of the Inscription on 
|the rever«e of the Medal on the Duke of Mon- 
Ibouth's Execution (Snellinj;, pi. xxiv. fig. 9., or 
MedaUiC Hut. of England, 1790, pi. xxxviii. fig. 
S.) : his head spouting blood in three streams. 
Inscription : — 


•nd on the exergue, 

" C.«A CCRTIX, IjOJf. 3VU s|, 1688." 
" The Inscription ii nn obvioos allasion to the word« of 
ThniMa whun hi* veins were openeil by order of Nero. 
lie sprinkled the blood on the floor, and calling [o him 
the Officer who attended the Cxecution of the Emperor's 
order, laid to him — ' Libamm Jovi Littratori .' ' S*« 
Tacitus, AnnaL xvi. c So." 

GoHGB. — Ualliirell, *. v., gives as the meanings 
of this word — 

(2.) taapliau' Clnacina." 
At Yarmouth, Norfolk, near the Eastern Conn- 
ies Railway Station, you may see on the wall, 
GoJige lendin^r to the Terminus," where the 
f*ford is evidently used as a substantive, equiva- 
llent to mean% of goiitg. P. J. F. Gawtii.lox. 

Cuivxa. — Amongst the many words which nre 
[useil in the United State.s in n colloquial sense 
[difTerent from whiit they are in the parent country, 
■none unuses the travelling Englishmftn more (him 
lllie word clecer. In tbis country, from the djiys 
of Addison until nonr, ihe term has signilied dex- 
terous, skilful; but in America it is universally 
ujed in the sense of good-natured, jocial, good- 
tempered, amiable, — in fact, after I had become 
u»ed to the Americanism, any person being spoken 
of as eleper, the idea eonveyed to my mind was 
that he was both fat and dull. 

Recollecting how many oh! English tenns 
crossed the Atlantic with the Pilgrim Fathers, and 
hare remained in full use in the States to the 
present day, although iinite obsolete here, I should 
lie glad to know If, in tl>c time of the Stuarts, the 
[word clecer was ever used in English printed 
[literature in the American sense? 

We pronounce the lost letter of our alphabet 
If in America it is utiiversully termed se ; and, 
intelligent pupil belonging to my school at 
Da, on the Alississippi, reminded me, sed 
Pforms the first eylliiblc of no word used in the 
[Knglish language, wherens xe is perhaps the most 
ifreuuent commencement of those imported words 
[liavtDg s for an initial. 

* (7ndlr"8onofB9«n'''sr«Bt. 

In Johnson's time, iszard (or " t-ltartl" — a 
great mistake) was the term. Fifty years Inter, 
zed (borrowed from the French) wiis the fashion- 
able name. A million spelling-books in America 
has it ze, whilst nerhaps another million here has 
'A zed. Which sDould be universal P 

John Cahdik Hottbh. 


Jonx BowBiNQ.— In the Tanner MSS. of the 
Bodlelim Library (vol. xxx. p, 24.), the name of 
John Bowring figures in a Efiimblc Petition, ad- 
dressed by christian subjects in Exon (Exeter) to 
James II., imploring his "princely wisdom to re- 
lieve them in time to come ' from the many diffi- 
culties tn which they had been subjected, " for 
endeavouring to praise God in matters of his wor- 
ship according to tlie best of their understanding." 
They express grtititude for his "Majesty's late 
gracious pardon;" and being "suitors from the 
Lord and the King, hate all rebellion upon any 
pretence whatsoever." 

The Bishop of Exeter writes to Archbishop 
Shelden, that this petition was clandestinely signed 
and delivered to Sir Robert Wright, one of the 
chief justices. He calls the petitioners "notorious 
Dissenters," "who will uot take the oaths re- 
quired." The bishop desires to know whether, as 
they could not obtain personal access to the Chief 
Justice, he had presented their petition to the 
king, and how it was received : " for," says he, " if 
they be encouraged, not only all ecclesiastical cen- 
sure will be insignificant, but they will herd to- 
gBther and fit themselves for another rebellion." 
This charitable bishoft, Thnmas Lamplugh, was a 
time-serving prelate, who lent himself with equal 
zeid to" the League and Covenant," to Charles II. 
and James II.. ami afterwards to William III. 
(see Wood's Alh. Ox., vol. iv.). The John Bow- 
ring relcrred to was the son of the issuer of the 
Ciiulnitcigh halfpenny described in your last 
volume, p. 365. Exosiensis. 

Atb^ncum Clab. 


To Miu K. L . 

" The very flmt day that to Margate I came, 
I saw with delight the fair Cyprian dame; 
It was Venu» I'm sure, for I welt know Iier face, 
I remember Ihp d«y. ami con point nut the place. 
It was Aognst the 12tti, in ihc mormng at eight. 
On a Fridav — yon me I'm exact in the date: 
The i>Ibc«, ^nrilen's room, and in Surtlen's machine. 
Fur Venus at Surflen'a has alvrayt been seen ; 
The beauties of Morgate have ever bathcl there. 
There is Douglai the mild, there was Ecklin the fair. 
Next momfng T sought her, but sought her in vain; 
The next, too, I came — disappointed again ! 
The IjBth-rooms and ball-rooms 1 daily went toiviA, 
Nor at lialh nor aV b»iV wu\4. to.^- N «&>»>» ^qxhx\. 




• Ah cni«I,' s&id I, ' when a voUrj' comes. 

To flv, lovely Queen, ttom the bath and the room ! ' 

Bat bee(llas.s alike of my seafcU and concern, 

Slho vonLitiod, and tiding* I never coold learn, 

Till Sunday the l*«t, hy gMd fortnne I went 

To the papltal rily offiiir fertile Kent, 

Where I found her, I found her ; ' I know yonr bta« 

Dear Goddeaa,* 1 ctied, ' the' yon take this disgaiae, 
And I eiuiiy guess why you choose to njsunie. 
Lovely L-^ — 's fair form, meaning face, and sirect 

' Tott'ro right,' said younu Cupid, • I told hct the 

Waa more notica to gain, and to win more applause; 
For I heard bar, one day, by dread 8tyx stoutly 

That Kitty excelled her in beauty by far.' " 

Gent. Maij. vol. xxxii. p. 4!)S. 

In another cony that I have seen the name is 
printed nearly in full, Ij — nuli.) 

I have n strong suspicion thnt the above arc by 
Thiirlow, Cbuiicellor. It was known in his youth 
thnt he wrote amatory veriiea, ami puid attentions 
to Sliss Lynch, a dnughtur of tho Dean of Canter- 
bury. . The alfuir ended in the seduction of tho 
young lady, it wa^ said under promise of uiarriuge. 
She set out for London, was token ill on the road, 
and died, refusing all nourishment. One of her 
sistcra married Sir William Hanham, of Dean's 
Court, Dorset, Bart. Their mother was a daugh- 
ter of Archbishop Wake. 

I wish to ascertain what was the Christian name 
of tho Miss Lynch, TLurlow's favourite ; and 
whether any evidence cxislfl to support the notion 
that he was the author of the verses. W. D. 

CARontAL Mazabtk. — Can you p;ivc me onj 
account or list of that ein^ular coUovtion of fugi- 
tive pieces commonly called Mazurinude» t Ilav- 
ing in my library a large collection of them, and 
ntit being aware of tbeir existing in any of our 
public libraries north of the Tweed, [ should be 
grateful for information on the subject. J. M. 

Chukck Crakcels. — ^What ia the probable ori- 
gin uf church chancels being built in an oblique 
lino with tho nave ? I am told that instancca of 
this apparent fault arc frequently to be found. I 
know that St. Peter's, Sudbury, is one of tiicm. 

J. L. M. 


WI9E Fbatbbs db Sacco. — Tanner, in his Natitia 
MonaHiea^ states that this Order was first esta- 
blished in England in the year 12S7, and was totally 
anil universally suppressed by the Council at Lyons 
in the ytar 1307. I would ask for an explanation 
of this statement (which appears to me to be 
inaccurate, so fur as the alleged suppression is con- 
cerned), and for some information of the circum- 
stances whieJi occasioned llie dissolution of the 
OnJer. Tanner farther states that n house of 

this Order waa established at Lynn befo>r« the . 
Edw. L (quoting a Norfolk Fine of that dale, 
05.), and that the prior there was the vie 
general of tho whole Order throughout Enplan 
As regards the farther statement, I should 

obliged by any Inf'onnation or : 

references to seals, deeds, &c., wh 

"N. & Q." can niTord. The onl; 

of the existence of the Order in Ljnn i« cO 
in n vellum Koll (preserved auicni'-'-i, dir 
pal munimenti of the town), w ) 
in the latter part of the reign of i 
the early years of the reign of Edward 1., fbt 1 
purpose of setting forth a description of the 
siiages, lands, and tenements in the town held 
the Bishop of Norwich, os oi iiis baronial feu the 
the annual rents duo to him in respect tbcrd 
and the names of the then occupying or me 
tenants, and of the original or chief 
herein, amongst other entries, is the folio* 

" Fratr. de. Sacc. ten'. 1. aream, L qua. tor'. 
hItacO. sunt, construct, de. dono. dui. Joh. ds ' 

de Westacre. eU Kicos. fil. Ade. de, >Vij, 

her*. Alex. ill. psone, aquletat*. th. v'jus. Epm. ^ rtild*. 
qd'. eid'm. annnati. solv'nt." 

This proves the existence of a church unil m;i 
sion of the Order in Lynn ; hut at the pr 
day neither material vestige, rcconi, or trad 
tional report, remains of their Bite and extent, 
would be very interesting to ascertain what b 
came of the church and buildings cif the moot 
tery after the dissolution of the Order. 

AiJt5 Hekst SwATMl 

WiTTOJ*. — Can any of your readerm funiiah] 
probable derivation of this name, wliioh is bori 
by more than ten parishes in Kngland, two 
wliich are situated in the county of Norfolk ? 
names of many more places begin with 
syllable of this word, the meaning of whia 
no means clear. Is it to be connected with "w 
" wheat," " wit,'' or with none of these ? Tlie fa| 
lowing cnipr.ira is written on the fly-K nf of 
regi.stor belonging to the parish of Wittun 
Bromhnlm. Norfolk, by some person favourinj I 
derivation "wit" : — 

" The name of Witt this towrp ■' ■'■■ - -'^'l boan^ 
Hut now witless, alas, I au.r 
The head la sick, the Bodie . 
Death make an end, they will uo [jiiv-iick tkkt^" 

The occasion of this entry does not appear: ' 
writing is of the beginning of the seventeenth o 
tury. G. W. W. 

EpgoM CnuacR. — This church was rebuilt ! 
I8'i4 on the site of the old churoli, which wmI 
very ancient building. 

Evelyn, in his Dinrjr, under date 80»li , 
16T(\ says! — 

^'We all accompanied the corpse of my daar br»tl 
(Richard) to Kpwtn Church, wlirrp he was iiet«nUy I 
tarred in tht chnjxl bctoncio^ to \Voodco|« llMase." 

»M & X. IVhT is. W.l 



I« th-re nnj arcotinl to be found of Ibo founda- 
tion nee of tills cliapel? The Ifiitunes 
t)/ .' 1 tlic munlmcuU of ilie Evclju fa- 
Shily, .in 1 lisi.' parish aiul epMCopal roaordis liavo 
been cxniniiied, hut in rain. 

In 81 lien. Vr. (1453), John aieraton IisJ a 
patent for f.tunding a cUantry in the Church of 
EbbisLiiui (Kpsom). 

Ad/ infurnialiuu as to the old church, cispcKially 
as to thu ortclion of any chapel or chantry, or 
otlicr additions, would greatly oblige B. J. R. 

Fhancb* C. Babhabd. — I have n Illtlo book 
wltll the followinjj title, Embroidered Facts, by 
Mrs. FruiU'fs C. Barnard, nuthorefls of Convtr- 
mtiotu at the Worh-TaLie, London, 1836. The 
volnino e<jntains nine fhort dnnnas, nrobably in- 
tended flip privato ji 'rformnnce. It is dedicated 
"To Sar.ili .'iml ^VllJlinn Bakew*ll, for whoso use 
one of Uio fi>lii>wing (trnniii» was written.'' Can 
any. of your rondera giro uie any Inforuiation ro- 
ganling Iha aulhorew t It. Iiiaus. 

P«oi'MKCi, — Whow ia the foHowInjj prophecy, 
whfch llollinjrworth rjuotes in his Mnncttnitnsti f 

'• Wlisii all Rn^liinil ii a\o(\, 
WiMil !iri> ilivy that ara in Christ's crofli 
And wlicrs atiuil Clirist'a croft ho, 
0ttt twlweeiie Kibblo iiud Mer»ev." 

J. D. A. 

VTjUaiilO THB LiuNS 15 THE ToWJSB. — 

.• t. w.. „..«ii our Lions in Ilia Tower, so di<l tha 

^ons in tlieir Temples, as U dcwriUed by 

nnd nllinr .tuthiim of Ant(i|uily." — A 

Ifnmuuri' ■ 'it SigtiCI of LnnJcm (I'llSp- 

l>oo%). > I Ir nliKul n reniury oil), a« It 

K)Mitia«i tl.. ....:.; ..^....wn'of Lonl Loval, 

What is the foundation for these allusions? 

G. R. 

DiATii.'8SABoi(. — I "picked up" n »!iort tiroe 
ago a viilunu', entitled Lectiwes Exphmulory of 
the Dmtf»»uron, 8vo., Oxford, 1 824, ftriittcd fur 
private dmtrtbutton. Independent of its iipparcnt 
merits, 1 was itulucxKl to purchase it lieciiii.te the 
title-page bcors the autograph, " J. Blanco White, 
Oriel Coll." — liecfluse it was " printeil for private 
distribution" — and because a portion of the Pre- 
face i« cut out, and a MS. correction subatitutcd 
In ltd place. Whatever the sentence was, it was 
evidently otrensivo to the owner of the Injok, and 
he has I'artlier marked his animus by cntlinj? out 
the author's address at the end of the Preface. 

Can you enable rae to fdl up the breach be- 
tween •' Thvise Lectures were drawn up for the 
inttruction" — and — "who are beginninjr to^tudy 
Divinity." Ac. ? also tha li}Cal« cul from the date, 
Fcbruriry 27, 1824? Above all, I wish to know 
the- ■ i!:rae. 

1 y of remark that the volnmc in the 

BniiMi »in iim (1005. c.) was printed at Oxford 
by II. Baxter, 1805 (author's name not giren). 

and appeari), for iho most part, lo be rewritten 
from the title-page to tlio end. There are pas,- 
sncres in the volume of 183.3 given verhafim et 
lUeratiiii from the edition of 1.S24, but they are 
exceptions to the rule, 'llio extensive foot-notes, 
extracts, and rerereiiees of the voluan; of 1824, 
are embodied in the text of the later odition. 

George Lloyd. 

TuE MAGjfKTtc Decunatios. — What is the 
presADl aiiioiiiit of the luag^netic declination ? 
Some ytari ago it was 23' to the £. of N, It 
must be more now. If to, all the vanes in the 
country are wrong. Clamjillo, 

Atheaaium Club. 

SocKATQS, — About ten years ago, going by a 
tteaoier from Avij^non to Lynns, a heavy fall of 
rain drove nm into the cabin, where I was sur- 
prised to find some good uditious of French 
classics for the use of pas-^en^'crs. Among ihcm 
were Malebranehc, I'njiCal, Boileau, and Montes- 
quieu, and an unbound new octavo of (Vom 200 
to .'500 pfljjcj, calle<l, I think, Le Dfmon de So- 
enite. The author was n pliysician, and the dc- 
hisinn U treated medically. I was reading tt with 
much interest when the rain ceased, and I went 
upon deck ftirgetiiiig all about it till ton late to 
inuke B note. I have tried to find the book in 
Paris, and fnllcil tlirou«'li inability to tiescribo it. 
The author's nanic, and the date and place of 
publication, will oblige ine. 

While on tliis matter I take the opportunity of 
culling from uno of those repertories of old wit 
and new history, the "Variety" column of a pro- 
vincial paper, an nnec<lnte which I had not $ccn 
elsewhere : — 

" The first syiiiploms of love in tlie wisest o( the world's 
philusoplirr] were curtainly very remarkalilo. ' LMiiUig,' 
Mj"* Sorrataa, ' my atiuultivr mid my litad lo bon, ■• wa 
wer» rvaJing loi;<iher in a tunk, I f«lt, it is ■'t, a 
fiuiblen 9liiig in iiiy sboulUkt, like the Uit« of a tiei, wtilcli 
I still full about live Joyi aficr, ami s cuiUinilFil ilubiiiK 
erucpinn into my heart.'" — tVunftert/iirt Chronicle, July 
18, 1860. 

" Quel glorno piJt non vi leggemmo avanti." 

Garrick Clab. 

Maltox Pbio«t.— In which of the many topo- 
graphical works relating to Yorkshire oaii I Iiud 
the lullesl ilcscriplioil of Matlou Priory? and how 
could it be "held at a nominal' rent from Ilcma- 
worth lIospttAl V" SioMA Thkta. 

LoDot: Familt, Wuxs or. — AVill you permit 
me to usk Mu. Lainu, through your columns, 
where I can get a 8ii;ht of the wills of the Lodge 
family, ({uotcd in (he excellent Life of the j>oet 
publubed by him for the tjhakspenre Society . 

G. II. K. 

Poti-noAi. Pom nr Caithibg,— Where cwvl 
find n copy of n \v^^^•\v\ ■«\\VVtW \>^ ^l^\^.\^v^>^,^ «1 



[8^ S. X. JnLT 28. *80. 

which the sabject is John Bull surrounded by 
sharpers, who propose to him to play at various 
games of cards. 0. P. 

Old Baixas: " Up jtjmped thb Mackerel." — 
In the Memorials of Thomas Hood, recently pub- 
lished, the following verse of a ballad often sung 
by Hood is given : — 

" Up jnmped the mackerel. 

With hia striped back, — 
Sajrs he, ' Reef in the mains'l and hani on the tack. 

For it's windy weather, 

It's stormy weather, 
And when the wind blowii, pipe all hands together — 
For upon my word, it'e windy weather! '" 

A correspondent of the London Review gives 
two more verses (from memory). Can nny of 
your readers supply the whole ? or has it ever 
been printed P F. W. N. 

S. VAH Son, a Painteb. — Can any of your 
readers or correspondents tell me what is known 
of a painter, S. vsn Son, probably Dutch P I have 
two ma|;nificently-p8inted cabinet pictures of that 
master in my possession, but have looked in vain 
for his name in Pilkington, Bryan, Houbraken, 
and Weyermens. They all mention J. van Son 
and }f . van Son, but no other. The S is distinct, 
even under a magnifying glass, and cannot pos- 
sibly be mistaken. Hembi vak Lauh. 

Aturfei toift Uniiotxi. 

Heidelbebo Castle. — In Longfellow's Hy- 
perion allusion is made to a history of this Castle 
by a Frenchman, Charles de Grainberg. la there 
such a work ; and what is its title, date, and place 
of publication P Sioha Toeta. 

[The following are the titles of Count Carl von Grain- 
berg'" works : — 1. Guide dan* lei Ruintt du Chateau de 
Heidelberg. Heid., oblong fol. [1840?] i. Notice He la Ga- 
lerie dei Antiquitfi du Chateau de Heidelberg. Heid., 
IGmo. 1847. 3. Dm Heidtlberger Fate. Vierte Auflage. 
Heid., 8vo. 1848.] 

IlicHABD Adams : Dr. Andbewes. — Can you 
give me any account of the two following poets 
and their works : " 1. Richard Adams, author of 
Poems in Harl. MS. 3889. 2. Dr. Andrewes, 
author of Poems in Harl. MS. 4955. Do these 
volumes contain any poem of length? R. Iholis. 

[TheHarleian MS/3869, is a small quarto volume with 
a few poems written at each end. Ono of them, addressed 
" to the most accomplished Lady Madame Binlosse," is 
signed R. Adams, and several others R. A. and A. R. 
Some, however, are transcribed from Carew and other 
writers. In the first leaf i« the date of 1645, but not 
united with the name of Adams. 

The Harleian MS. 4955. is a large folio volume of 
poems by various authors, uniformly and fairly tran- 
scribed. Most of them by Ben Jonson, Dr. Donne, and 
Dr. Andrewes. What Dr. Andrewes it waa is not clear. 
A poem at p. 87., dated London, August 14, 1629, and 
«{^ed Franc Andrilla, seems to prove that bis name was 

Francla, consequently it was not the Bishop, who 
was Launcelot, The first poem is entitled "The Uni- 
versal Sacrifice," and is curiously formed on the Lord's 
Prayer, which is so contrived as to run down the middle^ 
between two other columns. This paraphrase, conaistlng 
only of two columns, was printed in our 1* S. v. 19S. ; 
but the version in the Harl. MS. has a third column. It 
has sometimes been ascribed to James I. Consult also 
vol. i. p. 147. of our let Ser. for another poem falsely as- 
cribed to Bishop Andrewes. We trust some of our readen 
will be able to clear up this obscure point of literary his- 

Abtiixebt (I Sam. xx. 40.) — ^What a the ety- 
mology of this word? and what if the earliot 
example of its use in any of the cognate Euro- 
pean languages ? J, J, 

[Several etymologies have been pToposed, some of them 
verj- fanciful. We incUne to the opinion of VUan^p, who 
derives " artillerie " from the old Fr. verb artiUer or ortif- 
Uer, which signified to fortify (" randre fort par art, et 
gamier d'outils et d'instmments de guerre "). It ought, 
however, to be borne in mind that between wrttUtr uA 
artillerie there occurs in Romance the intermediate word 
artilha, a fortification. With regard to the earlissf «Mt of 
the word artillery, or indeed of any word, we feel soms 
hesitation in ofiSering examples. Laying out of the ac- 
count the med. Latin artelaria, artellaria, artHlaria, &e, 
and the med. Greek apnAopio, we find very old examples 
in Romance, e.g. " Per on dcvia venir la dita artUharta s 
carretas " and " ladita artilheria et engine.'' CItrom. det 
AUngeoit, cited by Raynonard.] 

Plan of Boulogne. — I have in my poisenion 
a MS. plan of Boulogne, and the preparation! for 
the invasion of England by Napoleon!.: it butbe 
following title : — 

" Plan de Boulogne et des environs aveo las dftoiU r*- 
latifs it roxp<$dition projet^ centre I'AngleteiTe^ par 
I'Empereur Napol&>n. Dessin^ par Lebean Tonaaalnt. 

Will you kindly inform me whether (if geonine) 
it is of any value ? H. D, 

[We wonid recommend our correspondent to mlmiit 
bis MS. to the Keeper of the Department of Mannaeripts 
of the British Museum.] 


Is there any work on this subject ? DbltA. 

[We can at present only refer our correspoodMit to 
Nopitsch, Lileratur der SprichwSrter, Svo., Nnrambergi 
1822, but of whidi we believe there is a more recent awl 
enlarged edition, and Duplessis, BtbUograpki* Pargwua- 
logique, 8va Paris, 1847. We hope to find in Mr. Bohn's 
new edition of Lowndes, under the word " Proverbs," a 
copious list of works on this subject Dklta may also 
consult the Prefaces to Ray's worl^ and " If. & Q." 1* & 
V. 897.; X. 389.; xi. l&] 

(Coiiclu/Ied from p. 53.) ■ 
The token of redemption used to be let up 
evervwbere, out of, as well as in church ; uid be* 
nea^ it pf^n might be rend worda Vki tiiii : .~ 



»^ 8. X. Jtn.T 28. "M.J 


*■ Let t»l (Inwne thy ne. and lift ap thy h&rt, 
Beholtl ihy maker on yonil cros at ID torn. 
Remember his wnnilii tba( for the did iniart, 
Gotyn wtthont lyn and on a virgin born." 

in Campsnll church, Yorkshire (^Astle, p. 156.). 
When Lydpite was a lad of fifteen : — 

** Mid at a ciniatre depict upon a wat, 
(Re) Miihe a rrnrilix, whoj noundra Tvere not nnni, 
With lhi» woord Vinn writen Iber besyde, 
* tteboM my ineekne«*c, child, and li>fe thy pride." " 
Mianr Potmt, p. 259. 

A rcmembrnnce of thiss, in nfrer years, led him 
to write several beautiful 8tanz!i<>, any one of 
which will »bow bow stronely the irange Imd left 
its teachin£r< about the Atonement on the mind 
(_ib. 259., &c.). Even in those books which were 
drawn up for the lower classes, the workman is 
toU: — 

•• To the chnrcfae dore when thou dost come, 
Of that holy water thcr aum ihow nomc. 

But funt thou inn«i do down thy bode, 
for hrse love that dyed on the rode, 
TntO th« churchc when thoo dost Ron, 
Pttlle iippe thy hcrto to Crial, anon! 
Uppon the rode thou loke nppe then, 
And knele down fayrc on bothp thy knen," 4c. 
Ilitt. of FTttmaionry, ed. ilalliwell, p. 32. 

Our forefnlherg were the men who got for this 
land tlie name of "merry" England, nnd they 
loved to serve God with plad.sonie no less thnn 
ploua heart; and thtis was it^ that ntnon"; the fi-s- 
tivittcs at the Nativity, the holy .iimp;, or Christ- 
mas enrol, found much favour with them. But in 
this kind of composition, the purpose for which 
our Lord took flesh, is strikin$!ly set forth, ns we 
may see in the specimens of old Christmiiss Carols 
printed by the Percy Society : — 

" In a manjour of an aa, 
Ihesu lay and lullyd wan, 
Hanle peyni* for to paa, 

pro peccante botnine." — p. &, 

" Iheau deyid and acfaad bi« b)od. 
For al jnankynHn, upon the r»i| ; 
Ha grraunt us ^race of liai>pis pood, 

I be-«ekc the, nwete Ihesu ! " — p. 7. 

" Mary moder, cum and se, 
Thi aone ia naylyd on a tr<%" &c. 

** Thi awete none that thnu hast Itnm, 
To save marikynde that was for-lom. 
His bed is wrcthin in a lliorn. 

His biysful body is al a-torn." — p. 10. 

" As said the prophet Abacue, 
Betwixt too beatcs shulde lye our buk. 

That mankind shuUI rrdemc ; 
Tha oxe beloV»nilb« mokvnes hen;, 
Tlie ass« oar gilte that he shulde b«rc. 
And wash away our crynie." — p. 36. 

Even while poing through the good old cere- I 
mony of i^otling the boar's heitd upon the festive 
botu'd, in many a lordly hall, it was nut forgotten 
Ihal — 

•■ The borrs hwie that we bryng here, 
Uetokenetli a prince withotvlv pwe, 
Ys borne this day to bye us dere, 


•• This bi)iyj hede wo bryng with song. 
In worvliyp of hym that tbui aprang 
or a virginp. to rnlreas alle wrong; 
nowell." — p. 50. 

Tbuj, with all their merrymakings, our fiUhers 
always managed to mix up such important rcli- 
pious instruction. As the year went round, cup- 
tom brouj.'ht them one sort of serious and solemn 
recreation in which they took much delight, nn<l 
that was the sight of a "mystery" or pious piny. 
Here again the same leading truth wc find put 
conspicuously forward. In a Palm Sunday piece, 
given in ReliquitB Ant, (ii. 244.), it is said how — 
" Cryst com as mocklyche as a loin, 
To habbe for you delhes doin, 

to dethe a wolde hym pulle. 
gyf ho nc deyde, nc bIo<l ne bledilo, 
Evere yn helle ye hndde ba wedde 

for Adames gulte. 
XoH yee that bereth to-day your palm. 
Well auijht ye queme such a qunlm 
to Crist your herte ul g^'ve," &c. 

The centurion, in the "Burial of Christ," says, 
spe.tking of God the Father : — 

" Vitt out of alle synno to brynge us owt of d-iungere. 
He sofcryth his dere snne for us all to dye." 

Coventry Mysteries, cd. llalliwell, p. 331., Adam 
thus addresses our Saviour : — 

" 1 tbanke the Lord, of ih! grett grace. 
That now is forgovyn my grett trespaee. 

Tborwe iny synne man waa ffnrlom, 

And man to save thou wore alle torn. 

And of a mayd in Bedlem born," &c. — p. 344. 

In " Doomsday," Onmes talvali cry out : — 
" On kne we crepe, we gon, we glyde. 
To wurchepp ouie Lorde that mercyful is; 
Ffor thorwe his woundys that be so wydr, 
lie hath brought us to his blys." — p. 408. 

The 4th vol. of the Camden Mhcellaiit/ gives us 
the Skryvener's Play, nnd there our Lord, iippear- 
ing to I be 'Apostles, says : — 

" ffor I ame crj-st, no dred you nogbt ; 
here may you see 
the tame body that hays yow bowgbt 
nppoD A tnio 

tbos'wu I dyght your balls to beyt 
and bryn'to blys." — p. 9, 

Go we now to our old national literature of • 
lighter kind. Whenever our young folks, at that 
period, took up a book of poetry or romance, they 
were sure to find mixed up with the doings of 
doughty knights and high-born Indies many ex- 
pressions in reference to their Christian belief. In 
the " Anturs of Arlher " among the 7'Arec Me- 
Iricul Rumnncf* printed by the Camden Society, 

" Thenne < oniurt the knygt, and on Cryst callus. 

As thoa waa claryGet on crosee, aod clanaer of avnne^" 
&C p. 6., 



[9^B.x. JoLTsa.'eo. 

and further on, 

■■ Ho eayd, 'To (hat blyi bring tbfl that Urne that bogt 
us with Ilia blode^ 
As he was clarifiet on crosseand cronnct with thomc.*" 

p. 9. 

In " Sir Amadace," that knight Tcrjr often calls 
out in such words as these : " Be Uod, that me 
dere bogt«," p. 34., &c.; and in his distress this is 
his proyer : — 

" Iheao, as thou deet on the rode 
And for me ached thi precins blode 
And alle this word thon wanne. 
Ihesu, a» tlion deut on tre, 
Summe of thi lokar send tbon ma 
Spoedly iu this place," &c. — p. 41 . 

And the White Kni^ht^ who happened to come 
riding by the wood at tho moment, thus tries to 
comfort him : — 

" For God may bothe mon fkUe and rise 
For his heipe ii ervr more nero — 
Now tbcnke on him, 'that deut on rode 
That for us sched his preciua blode, 

For the and monkynd alle I " — p. 42. 

Of tho Thornton ttomancet printed by the Cam- 
den Society, one is called " Sir E»lamour of Ar- 
toJs," whicn begins thus : — 

" Ihesu Lordc ourc hevyn Kynge, 
Uraant ua alio tby dero blessynge. 
And bylde ns in thy bowro!" p. 120., 
and ends in these lines : 

" Ihesu brynge us to that blys 
That laatyth withouten endel Amen."— p. 176. 

Very soon, we are told of Sir Eglamour how 
" Udthe hys baudrs he caste up aone, 
To Ihc»u Crrste'lio made a boone. 
That Lorde that us bath boght," &c. -p. 125. 

And of the Earl's daughter, " Crystyabelle," we 
hear that 

" Tho lady seyde, ' For Goddes pet<! 

Where y» myu owne knyght ? "—p. 185. 

"Goildcs pete," it should be observed, is our 
Lonl just taken down from the cross, and lying 
dead in the lap of the B. V. Mary. 

Even our popular stories, nay political old 
son<rs, bear witness to custom of referring to the 
Atonement, as we find in those printed by the 
Camden Society : — • 

" Love we God, and he us alle 
That was bom in an oxe stalle, 

And for na done on rode, 
His swete tierte-biod he let 
For us, and us faire bet 
That we sholde be godo," &c— p. 257. 

Robin llooil, too, who was the favourite hero of 
nirtny an ancient English ballad, did not forget 
his boyhood's religious teachings, fur it was sung 
of him : — 

" Dp then sterte gootl Robyn, 
As a man that hnd be woide ; 
' Buske yovi, mv merv youn;»c men, 
Fof hym that dyeii on a rode,' " &c 

HM'n Hood, ed. Uitson, i. p. 60. ; 

and his biographer says for him this prayer : — 

" Cryst have mercy on his aoule, 

That dyed on the rode ! "— i6. p. 80. 

The proverbs of Hending were once in great 
repute, but they begin with this supplication : ->> 

" Ihesu Crist, all this worldes red 
That for oure sunnes wolde be ded, 
On that holi nxla tre. 
He lete oua alle to ben wise^ 
And enden in his servisc, 
Ameo, per &cinte charit^.*' 

BOiq. AnUq^ L S56. 

Moreover, to get back his book should he loM 
it, the owner sometimes wrote in it : — 

" Who-so-evcr tliys booke fynde 
I pray hym liaTO thys in liys mynde: 
For Hys" love that dyed on'tro 
Save th vs bouko and brvng yt to me I " &e. 

i%. 11. 164. 

And the unlettered man, who could nut scrawl 
his own name, when he bad to witness any inetru- 
meat, ])ut his mark, the sign of the cross, to it ; 
as much as to say, that as he hoped for forgiTe- 
ness and salvation hereafter through the death of 
Him who died for nil men upon the rood, what he 
had testified, was true. 

But it was at the closing hour of life that this 
all-pervading belief in the Atonement showed it- 
self in olden times after such a striking manner. 
As his last struggle was beginning, the Passion of 
our Lord, from the evangelists, was read to the 
dying man, and a crucifix was put to his lips to 
be kissed, llpon the floor was spread a sheet of 
sack-cloth, overstrcwed with ashes; and thcreoa 
was he laid, that death might find him not in a 
soft bed, but clothed as it were in the garb of a 
sorrow-stricken wretch — hoping and craving fin* 
givcness of llini only who died naked for sinning 
uum upon the rough hard cross. From numbers 
of such En<!lish dcuth-bed scenes, I will choose 
but one — that of Robert Betun, Bishop of Here- 
ford, who died a.d. 1 148 : — 

" Successit fcria sext.i, (juie de passlonis Domini pla 
recordtttione annua dcvotione fldelinm recplitur. — In hae 
die fact us eat in a^oniatanquam rnptus extra so : totuspo- 
iiitus in pa^sionc Christi. Tantam recolens et mente revol- 
genus huniunum — postalal sibi cruccm alTerri — extensis 
manibus apprchcndit earn deosculani venaranter, et lai-ry- 
mis rigans ubcrrimis. Et adjecit, O crux, ave *p«* 
unica post passionis tempora, te adoro in Domino losa 
nivu ; sed in te adoro speclale illud crucis aignnculam, in 
quo Christus pepcndit; et mortc sua de mortis ancfora 
triumphavit. In honore ejus ac tuo lean Christe in me- 
moria beato) passionis tue aduro crucis tu» signaculum, 
non tanquam opus manunm hominum, nee eo puro adora- 
tionis intellectu quo Tu solus Deus adorandus ee, sed tan- 
quam pasislonis lux patibulum, mortis turn instrumentam, 
redcinptionis uostr.'e adinlniculum, coaversationis nov« 
miiiisteriuiii, quo reilivet mortiScsnte* et cnuiflgentea 
tecum membra nostra qun sunt supra terram cam viciis 
et concupiacentiis, nobis absit ultra gloriari nisi in cmce 
tua Domino. To igitur, Christe, te princi|>aliler, te sin* 
gulariter adoro, tc bcuedico ; quia per cracem toam re> 


S. X. Jolt 28. '60.] 




dMBisti mandum. Te adoro pro me incAmitliiin, natum 
et posauin, mortuum et sepuliua, tanquum hooiiuem ve- 
rum. — MUerere no«tri, qui pauaa es pro nobis. El m- 
ttiagnnit rrttivm artius nd pei-ytii6 avium adjecit: Domino 
' au ( " reator no redemptnr neua, non Mt in c«lo 

licus nut medii'iiia langa»ntis aaimn prie- 
taum pretiMum. Idco pono passlonem 
toani el<.'<iin tanqunm malagmn salutta unicum auper 
cor roeum et corpus meum. Idea pnno snngninem luuin 
juper Tnln«rii mea; iinino lutain substantiain Diearu in- 
toIto languina ttioi ut qui d« coonuleata muudi voraginc 
te Tocaotv aordiJatua cgredior, Invari manar et emnculari 
in aftnguine tixs Salrutor mundi," &c. — Anglia Sacra, 
iL aiG. 

But words so beautiful that Ihc djiiig man 
utteivd in the kearln" of n few f'rienda nround 
tiim, were often written for tliu world at large to 
know and read, for over, upon the stone whiuli 
over-spread his lifule»s body in its grave ; and 
lTe(|uently do our old sepulchral brasses give us 
riptions such as these : — 

•Omnaiii T'Otrntam Christus purgando realum 
'■• ■ ' ' ituni te tuunercL hU ^Sanctis) aociatuni." 

I: ■ la MoDlo'a tomb, St. Allan's. Woercr'a 

*■ Vtr crucis et Cliristi tumulo jocet inaitua iali 
Cnrcere ds triati ealrctur sangnine Chriiiti." 

Man, Ang. il. 202. 
"Qn A DTD 1' 

oa ngtils ima rliti ulctJine arit 
HE* M Ch M L." 

VVeever'a Fan. M. 174, 

•Cfjrst who ilveil for iti on ttia rood trco 
a«r tba sowl of idt hosboodi owi chyldren, and mee." 

lb. p. 338. 

I hove now, I hone, shown by quotations which 
I could have multiplied, from our incditcval 
popular literature, that the full belief in tbi} 
Atonement was the earliest sown of anj thing in 
the hearts of our forefathers : it was made to 
j?row up with their growth, and bud and flower 
iLere; to lend its own rosy colour to their daily 
thoughts, and shed (he sweetness of its fragrance 
upon their words and deeds, from the cradle to 
the gcave. Not only in, but out of church, they 
had that great mystery set bclbre their minds; 
they were hourly tol(\ about it in those lighter 
wimpositions which were written for their amuse- 
ment rather than their instruction : the song, the 
ballad and romance, the lale, and even little jest 
of Kobin Hood dropped it quietly into their bo- 
soms, for the national literature of those times was 
Christianized. Mr. J. G. Nichols has only to 
look into the works printed by the Camden and 
other such societies, and he will there find abun- 
dant moans for allayinjj bis " fear " upon this and 
other points connected with the. evangelical be- 
lief and teaching in Uie olden times of England. 

D. Rock. 

Brook Ore«n, Hammersmllh. 

[The followfiig l«ltcr, 9electcd from tho»e which hare 
alrea<]y reached U8 upon llila aulijiH't, will, wa aro sure, 
jtistify' ut ID the eyi!S o( our reaum In here closing a 

discussion whicli is assuming a cliaractei altogether at 
variance with tliat tone of friendly intcrcommunicatiun 
which "X. tt Q." hai hitherto lo siicciasfuUy maintained. 
— Ed."N. &Q."] 


I have seen with pain, not unmingled with sur- 
prise, the observations of Dn. Hock on the " feivr" 
of Ma. J. Gotten Nichols in relerenca to the 
meaning nf verhere on the inscription on tba 
Harrow brass. 

Among the few periodicals which one could 
read without apprehension ol' being involved in 
controversy, " N. & Q." has hitherto stood con- 
spicuous. The insertion of the observations of 
Ua, Rock goes far to destroy the strictly literary 
and uucontrovcrsial character of your perinilical. 
Those observations open up the %vhole disputa 
between the two churches ; and if justice is tu ba 
done in the questions thus broache<l, the contro- 
versies of Jewel and Harding, and Chillingworth 
and Knott, must be resumed in your pages. Itj 
startled at the chosui into which Dr. Kock boa 
plunged your readers, you draw back, nnd re- 
sume your wonted path (which I trust you will 
not hesitate Jo do), it will, oven now, be at tlio 
risk of injustice to opinions which are upheld by 
the mojtirily of your subscribers. 

Allow me to ask you to consider what are the 
grounds on which Da. Rock has involved your 

fiublioation in the chaos of theological discussion? 
jct us examine them, as stated by Db. Rocc 

" Mil. J, G. Ntcnou tells n«: My firat suggestion fas 
to the meaniog of 'verbero'] was ' by I lie stripes of 
Ilim by irboin tbe Gu^ipel leaches us we are boaledi but 
I fear that 'm too evangelical a sen^a for the time when 
the opttu[.h was written," 

,Whnt is Dr. Rocii's comment — what the con- 
struction which he puts upon Mb. Nicuou'i 
culm remark? I quote his words. as you hare 
printed them : — 

" Upon wlittt grounds this fear of hia re&ta, Mb. J. G. 
XtcHuLs due« nut say; yit, in giving such a distinct 
utleranco lo it, b>' more tban whispers, Ibrougli 'N. & 
Q.,' an open a.?3frtioii that llie great truth of the Atone- 
ment was quilc unknown to, and wilfully bidden from 
Kngl]«bmen up to tbe change of thii country*! religion 
in tbe aixteentli century. This is no small cliarge to lay 
againet the millions of the gone-by leuchflni and the 
taught of tbij our falberland. wbicli lliey .vlomed with 
such coRtly and listing monuineoti of their Chrisliau 
«i!al. ' N. & Q.' afford ilie proper list for this question, 
first, became the challengo was Urst thrown down within 
their pages I aecondlr, the question la ctoiely bound up 
with (be oldun ritualism, the oldea lileralure^ the uldea 
custom!!, tlie olden men of this land, about all of which 
' a. ic Q.' profK«3 a warm and especial interest ; and 
thirdly, knowing as I do the Kdilor to be at heart a true 
Englishman who loves fair play, I am anre be will aot 
abut me out from meeting and answering an accusaWn 
upon the ipot where he allowod it to be uttered." 

AVas there ever tvxvAi a <iQXvvi\x»sv<«v. ^.-sva^ ^twsv 




[2«« S. X. July 88. '60. 

such premises ? I put it to the comnfon sense of 
your reoders whether there is any such whisper, 
open utterance, or challenge, in the words of Mb. 
NicHou, or anywhere else except in the imagina- 
tion or misconstruction of Dr. Rock. 

Far from me be it to assert that Db. Bock has 
invented this misconstruction merely to make an 
opportunity for glorifying his church, but I bold 
that the misconstruction, from whatever cause it 
may have arisen, is quite clear. Dr. Rock's con- 
clusion, that in Mb. Nichols's expression of his 
fear he " more than whispered an open assertion " 
that the Atonement was °quite unknown to and 
wilfully hidden from Englishmen up to the change 
of religion, and his personal appeal to yourself, 
that Mb. Nicboi,8 thus threw down - a " chal- 
lenge" which you, "as a true Englishman who 
loves fair play, ' ought to allow Db. Rock to take 
vjp, are totally and absolutely gratuitous. 

" As a true Englishman " your duty, I submit, 
was rather to have protected Mb. Nichols and 
your readers in general from being involved in 
such a solemn controversy. It would be far more 
reasonable, because not founded on any miscon- 
struction, for anyone to call upon you, as "a 
true Englishman," to allow him to prove in your 
pages that the Mass is not what Db. Rock as- 
serts it to be, a "holy sacrifice," but what many 
people all over the world believe it to be, a ser- 
vice superstitious and idolatrous, and therefore 

Dr. Rock follows up his misconstruction by a 
laborious defence of tne teaching of his church, 
and an endeavour to prove that a knowledge of 
the Atonement was inculcated in its symbolism, 
and nii;:ht be found in its formularies and other 
publications. Ills pains are thrown away. Mb. 
Nichols hns not denied these facts. I know no- 
thing of Mb. Nichols's opinions on the points 
alluded to, but I sup])ose that what he, as well as 
most other people who have thoroughly studied 
the mediaeval period would contend for, is simply 
this; not tlie doctrine alluded to — the corner- 
stone and foundation of all Christianity — was al- 
together lost, but that it was under an eclipse — 90 
hidden under the worship of the Virgin and the 
saints, and a multitude of other articles of the 
popular faith — so concealed by the "wood, hay, 
and stubble " which the unrelormcd church had 
laid over it, that it had. lost its proper influence 
upon the public mind and was unlikely to have 
found place in the inscription on the brass refer- 
red to. Thi?, I take it, was the feeling which 
prompted Mb, Nichols's fear. 

If you are willing to give up your pages to a 
full discussion of this subject, and Db. Rock 
should go on, it would in that case be but justice, 
and would narrow what must follow, if, after 
having completed the comments suggested by his 
jaifvo/ratrBction of Mlt. NiCBOLs'9 meftning, he 

would address himself to the grounds for Ma. 
Nichols's fear which I have suggested above. 

JoHH Beucb. 
6. Upper Gloucester Street, Dorset Square. 

(1«S. X. 185.; xi. 32.) 

In September, 1854, I sent you some remarkt, 
under the signature of Querist, respecting the 
bequest made by the noble family 01 Clarendon 
(ns stated in the Preface to vol. i. of tho Life of 
Edward Earl of Clarendon, ffc, written by him- 
self, and published in 3 vols. Svo. Oxford, 1759), 
for the purpose of establishing and supporting an 
academy for riding and other useful exerciaefl in 
the University of Oxford. It was by mere acci- 
dent that I met with the passage relating to the 
bequest, and feeling some surprise that I had 
never heard of the riding-school, and that no one 
to whom I mentioned it could tell me of its exist- 
ence, I concluded that the whole matter had fallen 
into oblivion. The insertion of a Note in your 
pages would, I believed, elicit the wished-for ex- 
planations, and accordingly, in " N. & Q." (l" S. 
xi. 32.) a correspondent wrote to you in reply to 
my Query, detailing additional particulars, but 
without possessing that intimate knowledge which 
could authoritatively acquaint the world wiUi the 
reasons for the non-fulfilment of the will of the 
noble donors. That knowledge has now been ob- 
tained through the assiduous endeavours of the 
Rev. James £. T. Rogers, of Magdalen Hmll, 
Tooke Professor of Political Economy, Eiiufs 
Coll., London, who, at the recent meeting of ue 
British Asifociation here, thought the opportunity 
suitable for mentioning the bequest at one of the 
Sectional Meetings, when the subject of military 
drill and rifle practice was being discussed by 
himself, Mr. Edwin Chadwick, and others. 'In 
compliance with Mr. Rogers' request^ his friend, 
Mr. Chadwick, had set on foot inquiries, and had 
been informed by the Duke of Newcastle that his 
Grace is one of the Trustees of the Clarendon 
bequest, and that the sum now available for it 
amounts to 10,0002. Professor Neate, of Oriel 
College, I am informed, brought the bequest be- 
fore Convocation some time ago. John AIacbat. 



(2-^ S. X. 29.) 

It is very likely that the little information I 

possess (and which I am anxious to enlarge) has 

reference to the Thomas Bedwett about whom 

C. H. & Thompson Coopeb have made inquiry. 

Thomas Bedwell seems to have been employed 
as a military engineer in repairing the defeiioes 
at Gravesend at the time of (he Spanish Amada. 

'S. X. JnttSS. •CO.] 




In the Stnte Paper OfHcc there is an estimate 
for repnirinjj tho [)l»tform of a part of the Block- 
house nt Oniveseiid, wliicli, in the hamlwriting of 
Liord Burleigh, it thuj iudorseil : — 
" 2fi AU({. US. " An E^limute of repuvring a rUtformo nt 
l«ne 26. tlie Blivpkbnusa «t Uravasend. Fredc- 

Broad il." rick GtHtMli and THohuxm BediccIL' 

Appended to a note, dale 3"° Oi.-tobrij, 1588, of 
works dime and to be done at the forts of Graves- 
end and West Tilbury, there is this remark, — 

"Also there tit to be ulIowiMt to Ttunuiu ItttluitU for hU 
ebargM, mjikin(;e provisions at London, and coining to 
Grjive.<i«nd ne<-liclie to see the paytni:nli>«, which we anp- 
po^ed 10 be your honor's meaning, thouf;be It aecmed not 
to intended i>y the L. Genorall, ami Iberefore not remiim- 
bred in our Estimate." * 

This evidently alludr:.s to Genebelli and Bed- 
yrell's eslitnate of 23 Aug-. 1588. 

On the 3rd October, 1588, there i.i a letter 
signed by Vrederico Genebelti and T/wnias Bcd- 
vrll, addrofiied to the Privy Council, for payment 
of the arrenra due to the pioneeM emjiloyed on 
the works nt Gravcsend. 

The documents from which these noteB have 
been inude may be seen in extenxo in Cruden's 
Hittory of Oracexend. 

lielween Thoiims JJedwell the minister, uiul 
Thomas Be«lwell the inilitury engineer, there cer- 
tainly \i not much accordance ; but I am stiongly 
inclined to believe that they are one and the same 
person, from the nature of his (the minister's) 
published worka as detailed by yuur corre»p<iii- 
denta, and from his having "projected the bring- 
ing the waters of the Lea tVom Ware to Londnn.'* 
May I ask what authority cxistB for assijrning this 
engineering project to Thomu Bedwell the mi- 
nister ? 

A few weeks ago, when looking over the re- 
gistry in the old oliur«:h at the Tower (which 
registry, by the way, does not seeiii to have been 
kept with n view to future reference, else the 
entries would hare been more full), I found this 
record under the head of " Register of the Tower 
of London, BiirialU:" — 

" 1695. Body of Mr. Bcdwell Baried y xxx"" of April." 
The .-ibsence of the chriitian name prevents a 
clear identification of the person alluded to, but it 
luay, nevertheless, he intended for Thinnas Bed- 
well, on. the asisumption that his Numtria Geutne- 
trieii, and Metulabium Architeclonicum, published 
renpectively in 1614 And 1631, are posthumous 

Geneuelm, the other military engineer, was a 
native of Mantua, and after being for a time in 
the service of Spain was engaged by Queen Eliza- 
beth to t.ike part «t the siege of Antwerp in 1585. 
He it was nt that time who destroyed, by nie.ins 
of *' an infernal," the Duko of Purma'a cele- 
,brated bridge. Afterwards, as shown above, he 
the chief engineer in strengthening the de- 

fences of Gravesend and Tilbury, and in 1603 he 
repaired Carisbrook Castle. Of his services at 
Antwerp I have full descriptions, as given by 
Furnicr, Flnriani, Hondius, ami Strada ; but I 
should be glad to know what Bertius and Or- 
lindin and E. de Meterus say of him. In 1588, 
when the English fireships were bearing down on 
the Spanish lleet before Calais, tiie cry of Jem- 
beiiij ! Jentbellij ] struck the Spaniards (who re- 
collected the name of the terrible engineer) with 
a panic that forced them to cut their cables and 
run. (Sir Jonas -Moore's Treatite of Artilleri), 
1683, p. 74.) 

Can any of your renders supply additional in- 
formation relative to QtuehelU and Thomoi litd- 
ivell r M. S. R. 

(•i"" S. ix. 503.) 

The fwnily of Gyll is one of the oldest in this 
kingdom, as may be seen from the possessions of 
that family in Cumberhmd styled Gille's Land, 
held by Bucth Gille before the Conquest, and 
that it was coiifisciited, and granted by William 
the Norman to one of his followers culled Hubert, 
who assumed the name of VnUe or Viiux, which 
is the e.xact synonyme for Gyll, and this latter 
means cleft, or any fissure in a mountain, or 
break like a valley. Robert, son of the inter- 
loper Hubert, barbarously murdered Bueth Gille, 
brother of Bueth, and confirmed himself in the 

A descendant of De Vaux married Thomas De 
Mutton, and subscouently, Ump. H. III., the pru- 

fierty was convcjed to the family of Dacre, styled 
)ttcres of Gille's Land. From this family de- 
scended the Gille or Gvlle family of the north, one 
of whom is found in John de Gille of Greystock, 
Cumberland, whose son of Oie *Qf"e n:inic is found 
in his Inq. pust mortem, 1369, 44 E. III., Cotton. 
MSS. Faustina, ex. fol. 'iOO. For sustentJiUDn of 
this house of Gyll or Gill, see Sir Henry Ellis' 
Domesday Book, Ghyl of Yorkshire, who held 
lands there in fee, fcni/». Kilw, Confessor, 1041 ; 
also Gide'a Hotiorit de liichmond ; Camden's Bri- 
lainiin, vol. iv., and Dugdale's iMimasticon, vol. ii, ; 
Denton's i^lSS. of the History of Cumberland, 
in bis account of Lanercost Abbey, whir-h wii.s 
founded by Hubert de Vdlibus to appease ihe 
wrath of heaven for the murder of Bueth Gille. 

From this house of Gille descended that of 
Yorkshire ; and Mr. Gordon Gyll believes that 
the Thomas Gyll in question is descended there- 

A bnmch descended into the next county, Lin- 
coln, where we find Richard, son of Mirhael Gyll, 
paying 66 uiorkt to K. Juhu, 1200, which is 44/. ; 
and if we estimate money »l twelve times our 
present value, according to littVWvii ot '&>vt&R^'Sx 



[»>« & X. jdlt ia so. 

will bo 528/., 80 thnt he nmst bave been a man of 
substance then. Another Henry Gillc pays to 
King John 6 shill, in 1203. Godfrey, son of 
Sobi^rt Gille, was living in Lincoln 1278, and 
from him or his issue is derived those of that 
name to be found in the Bolls of the Hundred in 
1*278 in Cambridge. There is a detached pedigroe 
of this family down to one John Gille or Gylle of 
Buckland, Herts, 1499, for wliose descendants see 
Lipscomb's Bucks, vol. iv., and Clutterbuck's 
Htrts, &c. 

To revert to the gentleman immediately in 
fliiestion, Thos. Gyll of Barton, North Riding, 
York, he resided at Durham as a lawyer and 
counsellor for thirty years. He was devoted to 
the fine nrts and antiquities. He died unmarried 
12 March, 1780, set. eighty at Barton. See Ni- 
chols's Literary Anecdote*, vol. viii. p. 288. 

He had a sister, mnrricd to Mr. Hartley, who 
had a son, Leonard Hartley, living 1780. 

There ore various disjointctl pedigrees of the 
Gilles of Yorkshire, but the ctn-respondent beina 
descended from the Wydial and liucklnnd branch 
of Herts, has only detailed descents of liis own 
and collateral lines. G. G. 

The following acconnt of this gentleman is 
taken from Nichols's Literary Anecdotes, vol. viii. 
288. : — 

" lie had been resident at Durham as Counsel for thirty 
years, and executed the several trusts renospd in him 
with distingnishcd integrity. Ue was an able Counsellor, 
though not eminent as .in Orator : his stout adherence to 
jastico would nol sulTer him to yield to those embellish- 
ments of the liar which exceed the bounds of truth, so 
that he was less esteemed as an advocate than as a pri- 
vate adviser. He had a good tasto in the Fine Arts ; and 
in his more youthful days paid niucli attention to the 
study of Antinaities, liolding a literary correspondence 
with some of the first geniuses of the nge. His person 
was tall, erect, and gr.icefulj his features regular and 
handsome, and a pleasantry and affability sat on his 
countenance, which spnke the benevolence of his heart. 
He died a bachelor, March 12, 1780, ast. 80; and was 
buried at Barton, in the \orth liiding of the County of 
York, with the following epitaph: — 

" Near this Wall is intencd Thomas Gyll, Esq., equally 
esteemed for his knowledge of the Common and Canon 
Law, and for his integrity in the practice of both. At 
the Bar an Advocate in the former, on the Bench a Judge 
in the latter. Xor was he less distinguished for his accu- 
racy in the History and Antiquities of his Country. By 
a steady discharge of the duties of his station both in 
public a'nd private life, and by a constant and devout at- 
tendance of the public worship, ho was an example 
worthy of imitation. He died in his 80th year, 1780. 
To the memory of his truly valnable character T..eonard 
Hartley, his nephew and he'ir, placed this Ublet" 



Sir Wiluah Dugdale's Collectiohb {V* S. 
X. 47.) — By a reference to Archeeohnia Cantiana, 
ro). I. p. 59., it Appears that Dugdale's Collections 

ore in poaseuion of tho Earl of Winchilaea, the 
representative of Sir Christopher Hatton, **at 
whose instnnoe they were made." lirlatchleM 
volumes they arc. CAsnAxna. 

John Grebhiiaixju (2°*' S. x. 28.) — He was 
the youngest son of John Greenhalgh of Brandle- 
some Hall, in the parish of Burv, in the countj of 
Lancaster, li^q.. Governor of the Isle of IJjin, in 
the Comtniasion of the Peace for Lancashire, and 
a trusty and confidential friend of James, the 7th 
Earl of Derby. {Desiderata Cur., vol, ii. lib. xi. 

E. 25. fol.) The Governor had three wives ; and 
y his first, Alice, daughter and heiress of the 
Bev. William Massey, B.D., rector of Wilmslow, 
CO. Cestr., he had issue three sons — of whom, 
John was a Fellow of St. John's College, Cam* 
bridge, and afterwards domestic chaplain to 
Charlotte, Countess of Derby, by whom he was 
presented on the 20th February, 1660-1, being 
at that time S. T. B., to the rectory of Baty, bis 
native parish ; and on the 2nd March, 1660-1, 
Brian, Bishop of Chester, instituted him. (Gas* 
trell's Notitia Cestr., vol. ii. pt. i. p. 38., Chatham 
Series.) D^ing at Bury in the year 1674-5, be 
was buried in the middle passage of the nave of 
his church, where his gravestone still remains. 
Dr. Grocnhalgh was twice married. Hia first 
wife was Eleanor, daughter of Mons. Mekstite, a 
Frenchman, by whom he had issue six sons and 
nine daughters. lie married, secondly, at Presl> 
wich, in 1663, Katharine, daugliter of Edmund 
Assheton, of Cliaddcrton Hall, Esq., and relict of 
the Rev. Willinm Longley, rector of Cheadle, in 
the county of Stafford. He undoubtedly attended 
James, Earl of Derby, at his execution, 15th Oot 
I65I ; and drew up the account of the Barl'i 
speech upon tho scaiibld. P. R. R. 

Mrs. LBPEr.t (2°* S. x. 47.)— Tho mother of 
" the beautiful Molly Lcpell " was Mary Brookot 
daughter and coheiress of John Brooke of Ren- 
dlesham, in Sufiblk, great-grandson of Reginald 
Brooke of Aspall, who was tho second son of Sir 
Thomas Brooke, Lord Cobham. She died in I7A2. 


Clerical Inci'mhencies (2"* S. ix. 352. 834.)-t 
The Rev. J. H. Bromby has been vicar of the 
parish of Holy Trinity, Kingston-on-HuU, since 
1797. R.IRQLU. 

Sir Harrt Trelawny (2"'» S. x. 13.)— Dr. 
Oliver of Exeter, at p. 32. of his CoUeetions ittus- 
trating the History of the Catholic Seligion in 
Cornwall, Deron,.^-c., 8vo. Lend. 1857, gives the 
following particulars of Sir Harry Trelawny : — 

« Sir Harry Trelawny, the 7th baronst, after an •ecsn- 
trie life, found rest in the bosom of the holy Catholic 

Church, and at the ago of 74 was admitted to the priest' 
hood by Cardinal Odescalchi on 30 May, 18M, an< 
Anally diod at Lavino on SCth Februarv, 18S4. HI 







dnoghlAM, Ann Leliiifl, ii Spin«tcr, und Mary, wife of 
Jnhii C. nni'dinfi;, Ksn., liixi long been Cnlliolics. ITiey 
bail liirtieit the old diimestic chnpel nt Trplawny, ded(- 
<'«t«.J TJ November. 1701. hv ihtir Aiuasiur Dr. Jolin 

Tr«l:> .1.... u ■. ' l-xMsr, into a Cuth' ' ' '. 

Dm built a placa t 

vtci: u:ilf a mile (rum till 

W. AI. 
Tour intelligent corrr^jpondent F. C. H, has 
ctaUd that tliiji versatile baronet wae "originally a 
clergyman of tTic Church of England," and tlmt 
he vftu onlaiiied a priest of the Roman Catholic 
Chtirt-h, May 30, 1830. Perhaps it niny he more 
correol to say, that "originally he was a minis- 
ter of the Independent denomination, as he was 
ordained to the pastorate of a church of that class 
Ot Woht Looe, in Cornwall, April 22, 1777. A 
fiill account of the proceedinj^s on that occasion 
(lield at Suiitlioroptuu), including a very remurk- 
able " ConfeMioii of Faith by IJarry Trelawny, 
A.D., lata of Cbrint Cliiivch, Oxford," waa piib- 
iiihed at that time. He aftenroi'ds joined the 
Unilarinnai and in July, 1770, cooperated wltli 
]Jr. Priestlfy, and oUicr ministers of that body, in 
nn oniination Borvioe at Lympstono, near Exeter. 
It was not until 178] (liat hu took his degree as 
M.A., and bocamo a cleruyraan of the Church of 
England : ho waa ordained by Bishop Rosi, at 
Exeter, Juno 22, 1781. . X. A. X. 

Tbk Keay Coi-NTBT (2"* S. X. 8.)— In reply to 
your correspondent One Rat I may state that 
there can scarcely be a doubt that btr.ithnanQ«, 
or the district of country situated partly in 
Suthcrlandshire nnd partly in Caithness, derives 
its prcfent familiar closignation from its former 
proprietors, the Lords of Rear. " The Rcay 
country " is but a corruption of " Lord Reay's 
country," another name by which the district is 
known both in Caithness and Sutherland. In 
reference to the etymolojry of the word " Reay," 
which your correspondent thinks may be derived 
from the Anpln-.Saxon name for a roe-deer, the 
Hev. Finlay Cook, formerly minister of the parish 
of Keay, states in his article in the SMMctil 
Account of Scotland, that there are various con- 
jectures respecting its etymology. It is supposed 
to be tt corruption of Mein-Reidk, or Miora, two 
Gaelic terms signifying smooth and plain ; that 
part of the parish particularly named Rcay being 
ttnuoth and plain, in comparison of the other 
parts, which are in general rugged and hilly. But 
Ml"- Cook considers that the most probable deri- 
ration is that " Ri-ny" is a corruption of " Urray," 
the name of a Pictisb hero who inhabited the 
castle to this day culled Knook-Urray. The an- 
cient orthography was R? or R5o, II. 

RkDEixion or 1713 02"* S. ix. 404.) — Mb. 
Thiiumdeu will lind muoh valuable information 
in Mr. Hibbert Wurc's Laueatkire MemoriaU of 
17lfi, publialmd by the Chctham Society. P. P. 

Spibitisc Awat ('2"'' S. ix. .96. 371.)— In a 
letter from Kalph Hope to Sir Joseph Williuinspn, 
dated Coventry, 28 Aug. 1671, we read—. 

" Here lias b«ne of late u etrangoly rldiculoua anci Idle 
report about both our towae and counlry about tho 
apirilJDg aw»y of young children, who they iay are to be 
kild ftir their blood to care the French King of a leprosy, 
»«•> nbsurd whiinsey has laKen .luch impression snion^t 
tha vulgar and iKuorunt tbiit 'tis haril to dispo.'i.tcBS them 
of the tieteifo of its reality, inaoiiiuch that innny parents 
as foolish aa fond will not suffer their children to goo to 


Quotation ^^"astbd (2"* S. ix. 446.) — 

" Call not the royal Swede unfortunate." — Wordsworth, 
Sontwl 30, vol. lii. p. 79. MuxoB, 1M8. 

T. M. 

Hei,i.-Fibb Ci-cii (2'^ S. ix. 367.)— There were 
kindred clubs of this class in IJublin and its 
neighbourhood, and they reckoned amongst the 
members the notorious Buck Whaley and the 
last Lord Santry . The pranks nnd practical jokes 
theie gentry committed form the s(«ple convof- 
eallons of convivial meetings even of the present 
day. Duelling was n favourite pastime, iind a 
member who " killed his nmn" was entitled to a 
badge of honour. It is said that Lord Sanlry 
used to tiofcb the borrcl of his pistol for every 
deed of blood peiiietratoil with it. Our frlenils 
on the other side of the Channel could give Wa. 
^Iaiibil'c n good dt^n! of infnrnmtion tibuut these 
diabolical clubs. I think females were not ad- 
mitted as members in Ireland. GEORac Ltorn. 

Miss Pahsons akb D ("2"* S, x. 27.)— 

"Tia pot her fwcc, 'lU her ingenuous niind> 
That did n tirafton, doth a I>(orset) bind." 

That the Puke of Dorset meant there is no 
question. Nancy Pursons was otherwise known 
OS Mrs. Anne Ilorton. Walpole, writing to 
Mann (Nov. 7, 1771), says, in reference to the 
widow Uorton, married by the Duka of Cumber- 
land : — 

" You know of no Mrs. Ilorton but lbs Duke of Graf- 
ton** Mrs. Ilorton, the Duke of Doraet's Airs. Ilorton, 
everybody's Mrs. Ilorton— faith I do not know whether 
it would have been to improper a l^lrs. Ilorton m her be 
(Cumberland) has married, — and yet this is a woman of 

Nancy had other loTert, It would seem, for 
Walpole writes (June 20, 1776) to Lady Ossory 
(the divorced wife of Grafton, married to her 
seducer), infoniiing her, with the delicacy of a 
" fine gentleman," tbot A " lady who has been on 
tho brink of marrying as manv dukes as the 
Duchess of Argyll, is not yet Lady Maynard. It 
is a pity," adds Horace ; " she deserves o. peerage 
ai much as most that have got them lately." Sb« 
aoou got it by marriage with Lord Maynard, an 
union which the satirists lashed with unsparing 
severity, esjiccially ibe author of Dr. Syilax. 
Walpole (January, illVS tftWWtV* ^'i l^«wsv. 



[ix>d.X.JuLTS8.*M. « 

" The Duke of Dorset is almost in as bad a 
scrape as if he had married Lady Maynard," . . . 
and adds, as a neat illustration of the then pre- 
vailing social manners, — " a quarter of our peer- 
esses will have been wives of half our living 
peers." I think this will answer W. D.'s Query 

as to the " D " in the verses quoted. 

John Doban, F.S.A. 

Ahmt akd Navy (2"* S. ix. 345. ; x. 40.)— 
I have always understood that the reason why the 
navi/ has usually taken precedence of the army is, 
that, wliereas — by the theory of the constitution 
— the navy is " royal," and immediately subject to 
the sovereign, the army is essentially ttot " royal," 
nor (if \YC except the household troops) in the 
same manner subject to the sovereign s control. 
This distinction may have originated, at the time 
of the Great llebellion, in Uie jealousy of the 
Parliament against a standing army. J. Sansom. 

, Babtlos (2'"' S. X. 28.) — Herodotus, an eye- 
witness, is the best and almost the sole authority 
for the laws, customs, habits, &c. of the inhabitants 
of Babylon (i. 178—200., iii. 169.) Kecent ex- 
cavations have disclosed illustrations in stone, 
which (its in paintings in the parallel case of the 
Egyptians) furnish pictures of Babylonian life. 
Incidental notices may be found in the books of 
Kings, Chronicles, Isaiah, and Daniel. Berosus, 
as quoted by Josephus and Eusebius, Diodorus, 
Arrian, Strabo, Curtius, and Pliny, contain some 
notices. Larcher's notes with Cooley's additions 
on Herodotus and Rawlinson's Notes should be 
consulted. From the researches of Chwolson of 
Petersburg, in Arabic translations of remains of 
old Babylonian wr!tin<!S, additional information 
maybe looked for. {Ueberreste alt Bahylonischen 
Lit, Petersburg, 1859.) T. J. Buckton. 


Sermons bt Steei.b of Gadgibtii (2°* S. ix. 
244.) — The Rev. John Steele w'as, for about fifty 
years, minister of the parish of Stair in Ayrshire. 
I cannot give the exact date of his death, bdt it 
must have been about 1800. He seems to have 
been a friend of Home, the author of Douglas, 
and is mentioned in M'^Kenzie's Life of Home, as 
having been one of those clurgymen who were 
present at the representation of that play. 

R. Inglis. 

Gexebai. Bbebze uo ! (2»« S. ix. 484.511.)— I 
don't think this toast had anything to do with 
the Pope's bumper (oa Jon Pere), or with a brisie 
genirale of the glasses. In my younger days at 
gentlemen's dinner parties the habit was for every 
man to drink wine with every other at the table 
daring dinner. This process being got through 
before the cloth was drawn, it was then cus- 
tomary for the hobt to give " the general," to 
irhieh all filled, and all drank together. My 

earliest recollection of it is at the table of an dd 
naval officer who had served in the American 
war. On one occasion an aged military man 
when he heard it, ejaculated " Breezo, Breeio ! 
I thought I knew them all — what is he ? ** to the 
great amusement of the party. My impreBsion is, 
that it is neither Srissot, nor Breeto, nor Britie, 
but simply Breeze ho ! a naval signal for a general 
fill up of the glasses. Ah Old Hjjid. 

JoHM Ahyatt of Devonshire, admitted of 
i Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, 1770i waa, I 
I doubt not, the young man of good family and 
' connexions mentioned in Beloe's SexageMurian, 
I i. 54., and alluded to in "N. & Q." 2"' S. ix. SOI.; 
. X. 34.) C. H. Cooras. ' 


j Charles II. {2'^ S. x. 29.)— There ii no donbt 
I about this bribe having been ofifered to the DadMH 
I of Portsmouth, one of the king's mistresses. Par- 
liament was willing to grant Charles a large aab- 
sidy (660,000/.) if he previously signed a lull of 
exclusion against his brother James. Hie " Wh^" 
or " Protestant Party," for fear of success in their 
means of working on the financial necessities of 
Charles, made use of the Duchess in the way in- 
dicated. She was ambitious enough to hope that 
her son (Charles) might be named as sucoeaaor to 
the throne, though the party for whom she .acted 
secretly favoured the pretensions of another bas- 
tard, the Duke of Afonmouth. See Somen' 
Tracti, viii. 137.; Temple's Letters, ii. 351.; 
James' Memoirs, i. 591 — 615. ; Dalrymple'i 
Diary, 2Qi — 79.; MacPherson, i. 105.; Lingard, 
ix. 470—82. ; Knight, iv. 356-7. Jahbs Giurbt. 

SixTiKE Edition of the Bible (1"* S. IL 408.) 
— On looking over my " N. & Q." I sae in the 
old Series, under the above heading, " How many 
copies of the Sixtine Edition of the Bible are in 
existence ? " As I cannot trace any reply throagh 
the succeeding volumes of both series, i venture 
to add that Clbricus (D.) will see by reference 
to the discussion between Pope and Maguire in 
1827, that Mr. Pope states, on the first day of dis- 
cussion, " Clement bought up the Sixtine copies, 
to guard, if po.ssible, his predecessor from the 
charge of infallibility, so that but two copies, I 
believe, are extant." And on the fourth day he 
farther states, " So great is the scarcity of the 
Sixtine Bible that the Jesuit Fisher not merely 
denied that any were in existence, but stated 
that Sixtus Y. had not published any edition of 
the Vulgate whatever." This'is not an answer to 
the Query, but perhaps it may be of some service 
to Clericus (D.) or others. 

I would now ask, what became of the copy Dr. 
James met with, *■ by God's providence, in a 
stationer's shop " P I presume it was the one he 
used in working out his celebrated BeUwm Pttpale. 

Gborgb Li>on>. 

I a X. JSLT 2H. '6ft.') 



Stalls AT Mo-McunuTS, Cheshire (2"' S. x. 

5.) — P.P.*» first qur^tjiw relates to an old legend 

' a countryman i a monk lo a eayern, 

which Iny ule<r "id chargers; man 

»«1 l»'<rsc to be Ix'ilj uwukened at some time 

rben 'EnBlmml wwtobe in peril. I believe the 

id is l"! i " ' ' !v'<)ti's DemnnoiiTgy a{ 

nhtee b> ^ '> almost the same terms, 

il thiek the i nc'Miiro vers^ion is mixed up with 

>*> orapliecw* uf tliO three-thumhed miller 

igr'-- -'• ■ --IS lo bold three kings' horses 

I Ibis • iM^l; which was rather looked 

11-. ,...i>rs and Kinj: of Prussia visited 

flmad in ISH. It was, if I recollect, put into 
bjr « strrrnnt of the Slanley (of Aldcrley) 
ly, »»d printed in the neighbuurlioud (pro- 
mt &larcTJc$field) thirty yeiirs vince. About 
11, if I aiu not Diistaken, the lepeni) np- 
that almost forgotten periodica] the 
I |irecurM>r of the Penny Magazine and 
— •- - J. H. L. 

lAin 1116 B.C. {2"« S. ix. 402. 49+.) — In 
litUtf pucket volume, the title of which, 

Table', roiiUilning the Sucoeuinnj of 

_ »rour» sml King«, which have reigiiiMl 

', y* Xalivily of our Saviour to y* year 

_ 'CoIL W"" I'lrsons. The Fifth ImprsMion. 

'Priated and Sold by Sara, Lowndn against 

r Oaoft," &C. &r.. 

I tW earlier history of Britain ia given as fol- 
Iowj: — 

''XldKn^h we besia y* ^ra of our Corapiitaliun but 
Ik«ai7*thn' "' ^••l■'■•i and y* Series of y* most Ancient 
tis«v» 1 '' aad y* Storya somow' Kabulous, 

till y* r'Tir ., : yet before bim occur* 7 baino- 

li« I °^0' Trojans wliich last 

V; ' Brut« who (Ah Mundi 285^). be- 

Ibn: .'. :, . .. .11 England called Albion, as Scot- 
lot vm Cair>)onia: and (as Tacltuj saitb) divided y* 
h). 1* grtatest in Europe, into Ureal and Little Drit- 
'tmitm Line after many years ICnded in Forrox and 
t J* i S<>ns of Gorboduf;. Then .ifirr ({reat IJioker- 
|fcf aboqt 90 y" y» Monarchy degenerated into a 
bjr. In w\ I" ^taterus of Albania, Yeven of 
aacrtani!. Pinner of LoeKria, Kudar of Wales and 
IrfCcmwal, whosabrave Son '' ' ■ Punwallo 

(aa tnurregniim of fiO V*) bav i y otber 

lin \'' Tf iiUrchy was c'hoaen l\ i was y« 1« I 

' ^Vr- 'rjl«inj His Predecessors Laing but ac- | 

l>iiltM, Qt'lnrxm". 1 bus he brouchl it i 
' ■ ' nfi are 15 British lion- | 
;^9IJ). About which 
iiid niade it i'ribiitarv. 
lime 111 Lucius y< 1'' Clifistian K. fAu X"' 
7, and from him to Vorti)(em 1*2, who in- 
,. , .. .„ 1. ., -,n^ .Scot* (4.10) , 
I" of y» wliolo. 
>^•.) meet w'l" 13 i 
»nj C«'lw»IUil>r 19 \' last And y* Saxon* 
ul Into 7 Petty tungd<.iiut," &c. 

a i» ' vo" The Mwsi Honble. 

vr, Son and Heir Ap- 
fr/-/»<v> /irnrr IJuke oC Dcnulhru," I 

&c., and contains a commendatory notice from the 
pen of 

".T. Delirroie y« late Aolbor of )•• L'nJreraal and His- 
torical Biblinlheqae, in hia Works of y» Learned (Feb. 
16itJ, Fol» lyO) upon V" Publishing of y« 8< Inipreuioo of 
these Tables." 

The author also dit>Huiins the imputation of Lis 
work b«in<r "■ no more than a Bare Trniisintion of 
y* French Edition by Mens. ^Marcel." 

Is anytbinp known of the auibor nr the work 
nbove notice(i ? It conaista of " 43 ropper- 
pliites . . . compassed for the Puckett," and seems 
to have been one of the earliest eflorts of " lett<'r- 
graving on copper-plates " from the tone of the 
chising pragrnph of Mons. Deliicro«e's recommen- 
dation. Henry W. S. Tailor, 

Alhan Butlkb (2'* S. ix. 502.)— N. R. is mis- 
tiiken in supposing that the " early history of the 
author of the Lipet of the SainU h involveil in 
some obscurity." An interesting account of his 
life and writings was written by his nephew, the 
late Charles Butler. E«fi., of Lincoln's Inn, and 
is prefixed to most recent editions of the Livei 
oflhc S<iints. The Rev. Alban Butler waa born 
in Norilinmptonshire, and died May 15, 1773, in 
the sixiy-third year of his nge. He lived for some 
time but a few miles from where I write, and I 
have known several who were personnllv nc- 
quaitited with him. More need not be said (o 
convince N. R. that Albion Butler was a very 
ilifTerent person, and lived a whole centurv ear- 
lier. F.'C. H. 

PcBUCATio!^ or Banks (-2°* S. x. 18.) — The 
statute 26 G. II. c. 33. s. 1. provides that the banns 
should be published '■'■ during the time of morning 
service, or of the evening service if there be no 
morning service, in such church or chapel, on any 
of those Sundays immediately after the second 
lesson." E. M. has given Baron Alderson's inter- 
pretation of the clause ; but generally the words, 
" immeiliately after the second lesson" have been 
interpreted us belonging lo the whole sentence 
which I have quoted. The clause has not l)€en 
rendered invalid by any later acts, such as those 
of 4 G. IV. c. 76., ti & 7 AV. IV. c. sj. &c. 

On the contrary, the clause is re-enacted by 
4 G. IV. c. 76.' Pb»btteb. 

CoLONEn HooKB (2'* S. x. 19.) — In illustra- 
tion of your correspondent's suggestion I would 
submit that nothing is more conmion than for n 
French printer lo insert the letter c before k in 
English and other words. York he always s]iells 
Yorck, A Parisian publisher sends me ft jonrnal 
ft) an address with which I furnished him. In 
that address the word Hook occurs. Invariably 
on the cover in wliich the journal reaches me the 
word Hook is spelt lloock. liocaLAKDRB. 

[• Soe-S.&Q.-'i 

--iAU.VVl,.— ^T>.-\ 


C2»* SL % JfTLtl 

NdHQXJAU PERtCLUM, BTC. ('i"-" 8. IX. 446). — 

Publ. Sjrus, ed. Keinliold, 8vo. Anclam. 1838. 

E. M. 

(Is, I'.S.A. ; 

Ifnrmtirm nf Iht Dayif nf llie Rrfnrmnlinn , rhirftfi frnm 
the '' 



Be the defects of Fbxe'i Xe/« nmf MtmvmtnU whtl 
th«r msy ; l>c tha gbortcominjts of Slrype's roluminoim 
fOfUribulions to oar ece]eaia>tic«l history «ror eo inniii- 
fent, no one who values that Keformitinn to which, under 
God's providence, we owe the fVeedoin and purity of 
our cliurch, but must feel grateful both to rose and 
ftryix for the zeal and industry with which they have 
uccuinulnted tlie mo<<t valuable maleriuls for the hiH> 
tory of that eventfal period. And If the more critical 
spirit of the present day has proved to us that the docu- 
nienls printed by .Strypo have been h.r«til3' tr«n»tribcd 
and imperfectly collated, and that Fuse, tliongb a 
laborioiM was not a very careful aathor, it is ninnifetst 
that Mr. John Gough NiclioU i<i rendering a niorit 
iuiportaot service to tlie truth of history by carpfnllv 
re-cdlting the ori^nal documents, which the earlier wn'- 
ters have given in an Imperfect or inaccurate shftpo. 
Tilt Diarf of Henry Machyn, publi9he<l fur the (irst time 
in a complete form bv the CamiUn Sockta »ome years 
tinc« under the edJtorstiip of Mr. John Gouf;u Nichols, has 
atrcudy assumed its pl.ico unmn^ the tnust valuable ro- 
conls which we possess in Illustration of this stirring 
period of our history ; and Iho present volume, for which 
the Camden Society is indebted to the same accomplished 
antiquary, may be re^^arded lut a further inittulniuiit 
towards a critical edition of the documents employed by 
Fax* and Strvpe. The volume contains nn less than 
thirteen such documents, illustrateil with all the industry 
and intelligence wliich characterise Mr. Nichols's editor- 
ship, and accompanied not only by a very fUll gcutral 
Index, hut also by what is not less curious nnd neces- 
sary, a Gloraarial one; so that our readers will think we 
are not ljuilty of exaggemtlun when we prononnce The 
NarTativt$ of the Dayt of the litformatiun to bo a Volume 
which at once increases the literary reputation of its i 
editor, and funiishia another instance of the services 
which the Vamden SoiMy is rendering to oar lllatorical 

The new number of The Quarterly /temeu has two ' 
articlra on questions of social interest which will cJccito 
attention, — The Miming Link antl TTl* London Poor, 
wliicli treats of " Uiblo Women " as one of tha means of 
evanttelisiug the verv lowent stratum of society, atjd one 
on ff'urkmen'a Earninrts and HaringH. Tlio biographical 
ailiclcB, which generally form so mnrkeda feature of the 
Qmiirtrrtif, arc in the present number Joteph Senliger and 
Ary Scltfffer. That great puzzle to antiquaric^ Slone- 
hengt, forms the subject of a paper In which the Buddhist 
origin of that mysterious pile is contended for. SVilh 
I>arv'iv'i Origin of Sprrim the Ittriewer has " much ami 
grave fault to fitidi'' b\it not no with The Conierfnlir' 
Heactinn, the eviit«uces of which form the subject uf the 
political article of tho present excellent number, the lust, 
It is said, which is to appear under the editorship of Mr. 

^ooKS BECKrvKn.— 

The lUli^Hory. A Dtpotttory for Prteuut Belict, Lt- 
avdary. Binprnphicnl, nnd Hittnrirnl. Xo. t. July, 1 960. 

To be continued QtukrttHy. Edited by Unwell tun ttwDi 
F.9.A. Ihrrt,,. 

De<lii'Bt«d to tint illuslrntioQ of the Uabi( 
and I'orsuits of our Fon'falhers, more piir, 
connected wll!i ' i ■ of Derby, but Ciii (vi.nv'l 

please Antiqui uities. 

Menioirt of > Cbaniclrrt. By Alphonsc 

Lanianine. A'ctv Editfun. (Bonlley.) 

The words new eilillnn iu«tify lis in diami'sin^ Ik 
little volume w' ' 

laiiis sketches • |J 

flussuet, and i j ' ^ ^ 


A Oampfthtnnvt tnelt* nf JViaaw* nf Original Am. ^ 
und TVam/ufinn nf P • ' > •> , ^,i% ff„ D»im ( 
t/ieir fitriouti ll''orl;n. M'k. 

A very copious ani 

A DcscripiifiH and Dithu-jht •>/ ^/J^ 

for cajn/ini} Veisrh nr Shi/H out 

Port, or Riper, atfitiniit U'imI nuU j >>[ ur ,'i m , ifm," 
Jonathan Uulls. (Spon,) 

Messrs. 8pon havu done good service \}y ili- r<>pniU4 
this rare work on I he history of steam ' 

CanleiburyiH llie Olden Time, from .tl . 

rhirrn and ntlier Sourcet. J}y John liun, i .. .,i.. (| 
& Daldy.) 

The readers of " N. & Q." need not be roraind'-'.l of t1( 
good account to which Mr. Brett has tunied i ' 
of his native city. The present is a pleuBitnt - 

y'Ae Speeliitnr, bf Additnn and Steele. A 
tinii, icitli Expiaiuiioni \otei and a Grntrul InJef, 
IX. X. XI. and Xil. ' (liuutledge & Cu.) 

^Ve must content ourselves with chronicling the «f 
peaxance of these Farts. 


WA.IITED TO Fi7acnAsa. 

t'uUcaltrt cl TrlM, %e.,or Ilia follawtn/i Qoolit In be Mnt •UeMI 
the crntlcmsn bf whom iKcy ara re*iulrcil, and trhMa name aaq m 
dn*« •"' i''^'-'h !><r that littTpoM. 

Oi I '.I'fore Itns, la htiM, or boued. 

Oi I [ nf lo Tupti«ta|ilir, or coaneetod wUii tha £«fftlifc gr 



Bi ' 



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.A f^ fold Hlllkmi. 
"-xn a fialirlral Po«n fubUihell at 0a>w4 ] 

W. (..LtTaalllRl. Il)- HtiStn. 

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^iil 111' Tmfl CoMnnKWvAxrfr, 
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tU] rinr, 1-11. 

-'.'.j-'t. SuuUitt 

Wuil«>l Itjr JuIm (,,tm.l,m ll.ilkm, \k\. PicgadUl^, W. 


floticrt ta tforrerfvnuVruW. 

' lh< nil, nUkm tjtht rnltrie rdarme la ttu fwh 

, I.. .H, :ii,i s. i, i(. rr. I'.'v a;. 

»»nlltf l.i.uii)M Hi. I.'.. iWi./i' fv '.:/HH.f '■■/ '.•• U' ,_ 

^■Mwr «/ Mawi Bux aub Dhxat . IM. Fust frn »t, K.C i 

nW^^,e^ci«iPtTT'-*,r",i TUP Vr'r n t\\-"l I 'r .ii/ '' ...,,'. 

. X Aug. 4. "SO.] 




N». 24a —CONTESTS. 

! — Junta Land the BecuMnta, 81— A PrwUnof 
•rwT lAbour, SS — Tbe BkKmttaee of JanvM I. and the 
Idal saronec 81— HnnP!it Tom MartiD'i Houae, lb. 

at JforBS: — A Pacifloatoty Precedout — Distinction 
Iiioes of CokTim In Anna — Biihoprie ef Norwich ; 

104 d'AUre — Char: Charwamaa — Epitaph on Bo»a- 
id — Olirar Cromwell a Wool-«rawFr — Stan compared 
entrlea — Armi of the City of Lonilon, 87. 

KlXS:— BojUad.Sir Richnnl, Justico Itinerant of the 
IK — Altliorp Household Booka — Geoin III. and Han- 
i Li*htftnt - " Ui«tor7 of Bobeapiarre^ — Bir Tliomaa 
lluma — BarahiiL- Vtaiialions of Irtih Coontiea — Ver- 
lid lamoin or L'Anjys Families — Jowpb Scaljger — 
and Gordoa F«nii)i<s — Wilkfw ami Junius — Croim 
(Boada of Pnnoa— American Riv«n~ Bob«rt Robin- 
— '■ B'd Pilgrim " — Fre<»hfleld of Norwioh — 
of Charles 11. — "Pirssint to Death — 
i*cnun«nts " — .Vndrouioua. IM, 

im wtTK Altff»rKRs; — 8on(!; Wanted- "Ode lo the 
Ikoe" — Btbtiijgniphy— Dru»oa— Lewis Bharpo —Papal 
va- Dates. 01. 

bm I — Burning of the Jemitical Books. M— Gowrie'a 
Mier, It. — Bvloe't Seiaceuariau, 93 — Chria topher. Lord 
Hon, M — Duke of Kent's Canadian Hiividcnre — Lvttcr 
iroin well — B ot 't ate a—AntrobiiB — Addition* to Hoce'i 
ta — ^OTtl Weather Indicatgr — " Bcgno dello due 
Xe " — The Judg<9" Black Cap — Legandary Painting — 
— Burnet's Li fe of Biabop Bedell — Brror tn E nprtidh 
•— The Bolliad— TfaaPneeaof Uaoffwrst— Ba(tia> 
to Flwiily — Ach«aon Svuiy, Oi. 

I fiattt. 

I (Cone/lMM from -2'>' S. ix. 499.) 

■ November, 1604, tbc conviction of a Ikfr. 
ltd in tb« Stu* Cliamber caused (treat excite- 
j^ amongst the Enjilish Roman Catholics. The 
^ ia tbus told by Mr. Jardinc (p. 45.) : — 

tlie jadyas of auize for the northern circuit, Banm 

ri and SjerjaaDt Fbillipa, were reporlsd to have ut- 
ilrong inveclivei against the Hoinan Catholica oa 
|ian of these prosecation.t ; and the former in parti- 
r wai Mid to have declarcil as law to the f^rand jury 
vll persons attending Dpon the celebration of mass 
k Jeanit or seniinarr priest ware gnillj ef felony. 

■ ibiK Mr. Pound . '. . . preaaotad a petition to Uie 
^ complaining ({anerally of the persecution of tbs 
•n Catliulics, and in particular of tbe rigorous pro- 
ngs and alarming doctiinea of the Judges at Man- 

ling arretted, and bj order of the Privy Coun- 
rated in the Star Chamber : — 

tba end Mr. Pound vms sentenced b}' the cenrt to 
laoned in the Ffret during the King's pleasure; 
in the pillory, both at Lancs4t«r and Weatmin- 
to pay a fine of one thousand poaods." 

re Mr. Jardine leavei the atory. It ia, bow- 
f possible to continue it u little farther. Whe> 

Mr. Pound actually stood in tbc pillory at 
tmitutar ii uncertain. Eudiemou johaan^ 
Botly referring to him, states that a certain 

anonjmotis person stood in the pillory in Londaa 
during a whole day.* Abbot, taking advantage of 
the vague character of the cburtie of cruelty 
against the guverninent for having persecuted a 
pcriion whose name is not given, boldly treats iha 
whole ttflair aa a &ctioQ.f This is, of coturae, pror* 
inK too much. 

I'lis farther course may be traced by means of 
a paper now calendared among the undated papcra 
ot 1()04, the true date of which is traced, by the 
mention of Pound's case, to the yprinrj of 1605.^ 
It is entitled " Proceedings ot Tork and Lancas- 
ter against Kecusants." According to this Mr, 
Pound, who " was there by order of the .Star 
Chamber," contented himself at York with saying 
that " if he had offended, he was sorry for iu" He 
was then token on to Lancaster, and there — 

"Finf, Mr. Pound there belne resolved bolh by the 
Attorney of the Wants, and Mr. Tilaler, to whom he ap- 
pealed in the Star CbaiDber for lettimony, and by all 

other the Justices of poare at the former and this a^isizea 
present of the unirulb of his informaliun to his Msjeslv, he 
thereupon confessed his fault, and with humility jub- 
milted himself," 

This is a very different story from that which ia 
given in tbe authorities referred to by Mr. Jur- 
dine. They say that Pound was condemned aim- 
ply for complaining of the proceed! ng.i of the 
judges. The e.xtract given above cnn only he in- 
terpreted to meiin that he charged thcai witli 
saymg things which they did not say. 

Upon his submission the fine of lOOOi was re« 
dueed to 100/.§ Such a state of things na this, half 
persecution, half toleration, could not long con- 
tinue. In the beginning of the year 1605 a cir* 
cumstance occurred whica unexjiectedly led to a 
renewal, in all its rigour, of the Elizabethan per- 

In the summer of 1602, whilst James was still 
in Scotland, Sir James Lindsay, a Scotch Roman 
Catholic whose ordinary reaidi>nce waa at Rome, 
was on a vi^it to his native country. The Pop« 
made use of this visit to entrust him with a letter 
for J.imes, in which he assuretl the king of his 
friendship, and acquainted him with the messnges 
which he had sent to all Catholic princes, requir* 
ing them to throw no obstructions in the way of 
James's acoession to the English throne. H« 
concluded by expressing a wish that if he would 
not himself forsake the Protestant Hiith, he would 
at least permit his eldest son to be educated in Lho 
Roman Catholic religion. 

James returned only a verbal answer, although 
he accompanied it by some short memoranda lor 
Lindsay's own use. Lindsay wasdetained in Scot- 

* F.ud«mon Johannes, Col. .Kg. 1610, n. 23^. 

t AnUlogis, Lond. 16 IS, fol. 182, b. 

i Domestic Series, v. 73. 

^ As appears (rem a list of fiqaa aotqalljr paid in (oa- 
saqaanca of dtorea* in tb* Sur Chamber, & P. O. tk>c&«a> 
tic Series, xluL fi2, Jan. ? \^09. 



luid by illness till the end of the year 1604. 
Before that time the answer 1o the Pope's rather 
extraordinary request had been already given in 
the Latin letter which had been bent to Sir T. 
Parry in onler to be shown to the Nuncio in 
Paris. Mr. Tierncy, who prints this letter, and 
wakes use of his own j^uess at the date of it, which 
happens to be erroneous, to bring an unfounded 
charge of hypocrisy against James, says of this 
letter • : — 

*' How far its deolttrations, particularly at regards the 
educalioD of the yoang prince, agree with the instructions 
given to Lindsay before the death of Elizabeth is uacer- 

The instructions were verbal, and it is there- 
fore impossible to produce them. The accom- 
panying uicniuranda are, however, still extant, and 
are completely iu accordance nith the Latin letter 
written a year and a half later. It may be worth 
while to give them ut length : — 

" Inttructioiit to my tnutit lenmnt Sir Jama Lindtuy, 
for aniwer to lite leUre and comittion brought by him from 
the Pope vnio me, 

" First, you shall excuse my not aending any answer 
Ut the Pope directly in nne Lrfi for such important rea- 
wns as by tougue 1 have declared unto you, to be im- 
parted UDlo hitn. 

" Next you shall make my just excuse, why I cannot 
satistie liig dvsiro in those particular points contained in 
his Lre for such weii;hly reasons as by tongue I have in- 
formed you to deliver unto him. 

" 'rhtrdly. you nhnU aMure him that I shall neuer b4 
forgeltfuU of the cuiitinutii proof I have had ofbiarour- 
tisy, uud especially bt> this bis so courlious and unex- 
pected message w"^'' I shalLie cuei carefull to requite thanlt- 
fully by all civil courliaiea tlinl sliall lye in my power, 
the particulars wheruof i reiiiitt lykewiso to your decla- 

"And. lastly, you shall informe him of my honest in- 
tention in all things, us you have many times Ueard it 
nut of niyne owne mouth, and how I shall euer keep 
ioviolabl}' two pninls : The flrat, neuer to dissemble what 
I Hiink, especially in matters of conscience. And the 
other, ncuer lo reject reason when T heare it, but without 
any pnisoccupied self opinion of ray owne to refuse oo- 
ihing that can b« prooved lawfult, reasonable, and without 
corruption." f 

It may be remarked, in passing, that the light 
thus thrown upon James's conduct on this occa- 
siun may perhaps give additianol value to the 
coufession of Baluierino, which most writers bava 
agreed to disbelieve. 

To return, however, to Lindsay. At last, to- 
wards the end of 1C04, be set out for Konie. He 
gave out on his way that be was charged with an 
embassy to the Pope. On his arrival he asserted 
boldly that the <iueen was already a Catholic in 
heart, und that the king only needed enlighten- 
ment on some particular points, especially on the 
question of the Pope's supremacy over kings, to 

• Tiemev's Dodd, iv. App. p. xii. 
t S. P. 6., lulian Stales, Jan.? 1606. .This is the dale 
nf 'Lindsay's prooeedinga at Rome. The original paper 
jnvff Ajiro bevn irrhien in 1602. 

follow her example.* The Pope waa overjoye 
lie immediately appointed a committee of tweli| 
cardinals for the purpose of taking under con 
deration the condition of England. f Cardiq 
Camerino talked of sending the king a copy i 
Baronius' History which had been recently pal 
lished. The Pope publicly expressed his int«atu 
of sendin<j a Nuncio into England.^ 

Ridiculous as all this apfieors, it is itnpowU 
to over-estimate the annoyance which it gavcj 
James ; and when James wat really aiinoyi 
there was no folly of which he was incapafa' 
For a week or two all Europe believed that \ 
was about to renounce hia faith. He imiuediali 
declared Lindsay's story to be a lie. His amb 
sador at Paris was directed to inform the Nund 
in that city in as polit« terms as possible 
Cardinal Camerino had better save himself 
trouble of sending presents to England. § 
was also directed to inform hiiu of the true st 
of the case. 

These rumours reached England at an unfortu- 
nate time. During the winter Jiuues bod been 
employing his energies in an atten\pt to put dowo 
Puritanism. He was, therefore, already lubouriji 
under a suspicion of a leaning towards Pop 
In a letter of the Archbishop of York whlMJ 
about this time an opinion is expressed whN^ 
must have been pretty general. Upon reoeiTiJ_ 
an order to proceed against the Furil&iia, tiie 
archbishop wrote to Cranbourne : — 

■■ 1 wish with all my beart that the likeorder were takn, 
and given not only to all Bishops, but to all magtstnM_ 
And justices, to proceed against Papist* and Kccusi "^ 
who of late, partly by this round dealing against I 
tans, and partly by reason of some extraordinary U\v 
have grown mightily in number, courage^ and iaflt- 

Thus it will be seen that when the news < 
Lindsay's proceedings arrived in England, 
whole country was alreadv in a ferment. Jama 
principles were tried, and they gave way 
the test. One false st-ep led to another. He won 
prove the purity of the motives which led bim \ 
persecute tbe Puritans, by adding to it the per 
cution of die Koman Catbolics. Accordingl 
the lOtb Feb. 1605, he commanded tbe Lor 
the Council to see that the laws were put in «t 
cution, though even then he Ibrbade the sfa 
of blood. 

* Dep^hes de Beaumont, Vitlerol iv Beaumoist, '. 
{J, ICOt. 

t S. P. O., French Sericjs, Parry to Cranboame, Ja 
7th, 1C06. 

; S. P. O., lulian States, Lindsay to the King, M 
aSrd. Probably N. S. 

§ S. P. O., Freacti Series^ Craoboume to Parry. 
20tb, 160S. 

I Archbishop Huttoo to Cranbourne, Dec. Ifrth, It 
Wtnwood, il 40. This letter gives additional cviiici 
(hat the instruciions to the Council of the North in 14 
mentioned in a former paper, were not put in futca. 

I a. X. Aoo. 4. '80.5 



■To recapitulate. On. the arrival of the king in 
jianij, ne came with promises, and, as far as 
o«n judge, with the intention of establishing 
ne kind of toleration. His mind was shaken 
' tlie dixcoverj of some plots, and still more hy 
knowledge of the exbtence of otberg, the par- 
itara of which he was unable to learn. After 
ae vaciliaiioa lie adhered to his original design, 
bich he now hoped to carry out hy entering into 
ciations with the Pope. The conduct of the 
^pe in tampering with bis wife led him to give 
this scheme, and to put forth a proclamation 
the banishment of the priests. A year after 
the foolish reception given at Rorae'to an impro- 
"ble story being reported to him at an unfortu- 
time drove for ever his late ideas of toleration 
. of his bead. 
I Such, 90 far as I have been able to a-scertain 
ini, are the facts of the case. But in estimating 
the moral worth of James's character, it is highly 
important to be able to form some idea of the 
stAte of opinion which prevailed around him. No 
doubt this is a subject which is well known. Still 
it may not be thought amiss if I conclude tbese 
papers with two or three extracts from contem- 
porary documents which throw some light on the 
feelingfl with which toleration was regarded in the 
be^nning of the seventeenth century. They wilJ 
all be taken from the Irish correspondence in the 
8. P. O. The fact that Protestantism was in Ire- 
land the religion only of the minority necessarily 
put the advocates of intolerance in a position in 
which it waa necessary to prove their case, and 
thus elicited opinions and arguments which in 
England were generally left unsaid, because the 
principlea on which they rested were taken for 

The first extract I ehall give is taken from a 
letter written on June 4th, 1603, by the Arch- 
bishop of Dublin and the Bishop of Meath to 
Ae king. They had heard that certain towns 
Hpre alKiut to send a deputation to England to 
Ik for " free liberty of conscience, antl of the 
Romiah religion." The men who were to form 
Jhe deputation were, they said, " of a turbulent, 
■etious, and malecontent disposition." 

V** And for the chief matter, and vabjecte of there medi- 
Hlon (wee mean tb« exercise of there romish rrligion) 
■!• Lord in heaven be praysed there is no man lyving 
tfita daie in Cbridteadome that can better judge and dis- 
<«me what ac^reeinent there ia Irke to b« b«twene light 
and darluieas, bctvrene God and beliall, and betweno the 
clorioas goapcll of Jeaus Christ and Ibe sciperstitipas 
Uolairy of Antechrist, then yo' owne most sacred and true 

Kgious ma"*. And therefore little doe woe neede to 
sar in this pointe, onelia this wee l>e»eech 701 highness, 
er to admyt within yo' kingdome anie partition, or 
diritMO, of ya' labiecti obedience either in matters of the 
.anarch, or drill sutc For If yo' ma"* (as god forbid) 
cOtant yo'salf with an outward and ceremonial 
ion of bodie, land* and gooda, and aaffer the pope 
' p'AaMd anamla to anioia and domJiiMre in and over 

the coscience, mynds. and bouUj of yo' liege peopFe: 
what expectations of true and aouode obedience from yo' 
SnbiecU ran _vo' ma*^* have, when as it stands aqre, m a 
most infallible principle, that to whatsoever power or 
authodtle tlic soul, the faculties and affections of mans 
mynde are snbiected and devoted, to that self sama 
power, shall all (he offices, and services of the bodie and 
abilities of lands and goods, by litila »nd little, whatso- 
ever is [ireleniled to the cOtrarie, ycold and submitt 
themselves. What assurance, then, can anie prince have 
either in his owne estate? or of his sobiects? when a 
foreign power, that is in flatt_oppfl«ilion and hostilitia 
against oim, shall ml« and coniaad the hc!)t and ruling 
parte of his kingdome. This toleration of religion that 
IS sought for (most excellent prince) is notl>ii)|; ela 
(thongb cftscienoe and sonles instruction be only p'ten(te<l) 
but a subtile exercise and treacherous practise, where- 
with the popish priests shall from tymc to tyme, p'paro 
the rayndes of ignorant men (borough there bopps, and 
terrors of pargatorie and excommunication, and by (here 
secret intelligences they shall gett by shrifte and' cOfrs- 
sion, to be ready and resolute to do anie thinge that he 
shall direct or coinand whom ibeie must believe ought to 
comand nil things both in heaven and earth (whatsoever 
God or lawful princes shall ordayn to the contrarie). 
And what this Antechrist will comand, (if tyme and oc- 
casion serve his tume,) all the world with bloody and 
woeful experience can easily coniecture." 

This is A clergyman's view of the subject. The 
next e.xtract contains a portion of a lawyer's argu- 
ment which sounds even more strange to our ears. 

In default of any Irish statute imposing more 
than 12d. for absence from church on every Sun- 
day or holiday, it bad occurred to the Irish Coun- 
cil that the Star Sbambcr might be brouj;bt into 
operation. Mandates were seiU out to the chief 
citizens of Dublin, commanding thera to appear 
at church. On the 22nd Nov. 1603, the recu- 
sants were brought before that court, and were 
heavily fined. One of the King's CounMJ, whose 
name is lost, charged them with their offences*; 
and in the course of bis spieech made use of the 
following expres«ions ; — 

" Can the King make Bishopps and giv« Episcopall 
Jurisdictions, and cannot hae couiand the people to obey 
that aulSiority which himself* hath given? Can bee 
comand the Byshop to admitt a clarke to a beneHco, and 
cannot he coinand his pariihion"to come and heare himf 
7 H. 6. the king coraanda a man to take Ibe order of 
kniglithood, if.hee refuse y', hee shull U*<« flneti, for it Is 
for the service of the Coihonwealih. Can the king 
couiand a man to serve the commonwealtb, aiid cannot 
hee comand him to serve Qod?" 

The last cMlroct which I shall give is remark- 
able ; in the first place because the paper from 
wLicii it is taken bears the signatures of the Irish 
Council, and may be therefore taken to e.xpre,is 
the opinions of the Lord Deputy, Sir Arthur 
Chichester, one of tbc ablest and most honest of 
the long list of Irish Viceroys ; and, secondly, be- 
cause it is a rare instance of a governnieut being 
necessitated to st^nd upon its own def«fnce. Com- 

* a P. O. IrcUnd. Effect of a speech in the Court of 
Castia Chamber by one of tb« King's Counsel, Nov. 22, 



[a«« 8w X Av». 

pUints had reached EngUnd of the manner in 
which the Dublin recusants had been trc«te<l, and 
the IrUh government was required to explaia its 
proceedings. Th* re«ult wo* : — 

•■ A d^mn of tht proefdmgt in tht CaMl* Oumixr nf 
Irtlakd lyywM iJu uianJittM,* 

" The mtnd«t«coDUj-ii*th ihreo pnrtM: flrst toUMide 
tb* Miior (o the cliarcb; 2. To |>res«nt hiniM^^ before 
the Lo. Uepalie In tb« church 5 8. To abytle Uier* dariiiK« 
diviite terrue. The firit i« on ordin«rie dutie of eaery 
Ciiiaea towards tbe miKvilrate, ««(Mii*lly at Uie Ald«r- 
nan ud b«st sorta of Citizens, and halh byn* ijm» mit 
«f lajitd* accMUMMd in th*t Citlie. Tbe w«<»Dd b aim 
part* of th« obedi«nr« of eucry subieclc to (ho kio^ and 
oil ilcpatia, both w*"" ain the parties utlerlic diwijard; 
fttr they ncilhar attenilMl th« Maior, noe not ao farr a* to 
the Church dore, nor pr«sent«i themaalrca bafoi* tka Lo. 
I>«l>uti«, neither in iha Clta«nc«4l, Ci>u«fa« aor Iilaa 
thert<.ir, wo they oagbt to have 4«ii«, aad liaiglit iiatra 
dona w<'out {ireiutlice to theire eonaeiaDaaa, Ibr «^ two 
said Causes they wvare JuMly aetiteAosA, And bars noe 
collor of obieet against the saine ; the mandau belnfc acot 
to none but lo such as weara Aldemien, or had boroe 
principall oAees in the Cittie, or woara of tba beat aorta," 

" And yf the third p«rie of fho maadate, •w»»' is for 
abiilinjr in tliu Church ilarin); dieina sarrlc*, waara splri- 
tusll or not cxsminabla in a Temporal! Court, yet the 
diaobitinge of ilia two Ant partei is nne wayes priuile^cil 
therhy, for beings tromnunded 10 perlbrme three daties, 
the exemption of ponishnieiU for thone cannot dispence 
w*'> Iha poniahn* daa for thatker two. And yf it should 
be admitted to be an EucleaUadcall action, by raaaon Uiat 
the circanistancca are Ecclas i asticall. vet tbe kinge beiag 
■upreame head lo caoses as well Eoi:feaiasticall as Civill, 
his Regall powere and preruRativs doe extend as large as 
d<Kh his supremacy. And the Stawte giveth powers to 
Civill maKoslnits to aoqaira and puniab, soe tbe same is 
bacoiiiii letuporall, or at least mistSi and not meerlie 

AAer a long legal arfniment in fkroar of the 
king'* Mipremacy in eoelMtaatical matters, tbe 
"Defen«" coBtinue* : — 

" All W* [preoedeiits »nd authorftles] doe hynile the 
■a h iaat tarn m bro aeculi qusm in foro cell, when they 
•M citber oxpraasfc or Tacite, to the Glorip of God, or tbe 
«od of the CoSioii weahh. And yet this Coinandui' uT the 
Sings MieniJcih not tocompell tha harta and mynd^ nor 
tke ReliKion of tbe p'tiea, but only the etemall action of 
the bodie, w*^ ought Lawfullie to be obajed except in 
two casaa." 

" The first, that tha p'tia he not drawoe therbr into 
tka daanger of hipwiriaiei Tbe saacond, yt the dulnne 
thereof be nnl prohibited bv lawAll and byitdinge auibo- 
ritie. Fur the first, yf a Komiat in Itellgion doe profv>sc 
his owne Religion and protest against oum, and yet 
fcaare our sermmM auil h« our service, per viani obixli- 
•Btic anil not per viam coinprobatimiis, untyU he at- 
t^yne better satisfaction, be can not be ju»Liie called 
An IpiM-ritc. For the seacond, yf the preiat have Inhi- 
hited the re|vnyre of lliem to o' Church, Tliat is Man- 
datum Pnliticum, or ai they S.'iy Mandntum Morale, 
least they should be drawne in tyme tu foissku theire Re- 
ligion, w«k morall and politicail Inhiljitiunn, or rather 
Councells and advioaa, are not to bo opposed againtl pub- 

* lucloaed io a letter of tlie Lord Deputy Chichester. 
Council to the English Privy Council, Dec Ist, 1C06. 
S. r. 0. Ireland. 


like poaiUvo La was and Constitntiona. For aa the 
oiKli doe say. Consilium est voluntatis. prMce^tOia 
neccsaitatis, prelatos non vult precSpere aed potiui 

" It may he obiocted, that yf the refosinge lo rapaTOi 
to or Church be so penalt as to be made rynable vfttt 
prerogstive t thst then in sa(?h esse thota uaadaa Ms 
itatota against Reconnti in Enidand." 

•' Wee answer llrsl, thai Ibis obiectionezt'C"''''' .~m.. 
the greatest parte o( the praccediiif^s in iK 
her in England; for if perinry, forjjerj*, i. 
awiy of Msvilens wiiiout theire pirenLl Consent, Depp- 
puU'tion of "townM, decsy of tillage, angreoainga «f rlfr 
taalls and such like, be paalahsble by Fyna bf the k)a|^ 
prsro«atire in Uw Starr Cbanber. Thea what iioailsd lh« 
aeuarall statutes ordayoad against those offeocrst wbsrtu 
it i< manifest thai the proceedings in Censurinife thOiS 
enormities nlwayes were before the inakinge of lnO"e as- 
tuteit grounded upon the CoiTiori Liwe; And aints tin 
roaUngo of thoae statnta, tha proceadinga ara grDsadcl 
Bona tynea upon thona, aane times an tttoUier, mt 
sane tymes upon both." 

•* Se'acoadlie we aunswer, that the Prerogatlre pgnlili' 
m" of the Starr Chamber are not to b« auended t« iL 
persons as the Comon Ltwes nre. but are to b« nsed r sihtf 
as exemplaria then as pensll, ami to bs axarelsat af 
yVios most eminent, and in Caoaes maaa notsrisaa 
wkeraa tbe Coinon Lawe is to be eKarute<l upoo all p'aitH 
i» like aorte w"Viut aaie manner of diffcrenca." 

" Thirdly wee aunawere, that the Caaes ID w''' < 
mgatlve Ilawo is to be used amonga other* bi 
flrst, whn the C«ni«n Lawes and statntaa doe 
euch essie pnni^hm'" M thorhy the people an sot n^ 
cientiie terretied (ma offeftdiaca. for redfWSa wll '" 
prarcffstiva coarse in th« Starr Cbsnibcr is to ' 
Stay ttie excessive Increase of those ofieDces, 1 
Sevier Lawes he ordained. 

" Seacondlie, when the Law«t and penldtJea aii « 
Memo to be competent for reprosaiAgc of tbo oAnreik bat 
v«t astber by M^tliganc* of maipatrates or Intompliso 
by warra. or by aooM Mnarall allianatioa of Uw paisflai 
hartes, (here ii a gen'aTl defection from all ubaereatios <■ 
those Lawes, Then the p'rogaiive Laws most taks luaU 
of the Ringlesdera of that defection, and n«ti«r ceaaeHS- 
trit by seueiitie of puni«hnionl tbe La'Wa* ha nstsiol 
■nto theire power; both w<'' resL'ons do coneur in iM 
cauw of repavere to the cburch ; for although tbe I 
of iso [Elix.^ dotb indigbc punishm^ upon recfnaanll,! 
thesnme is so meano, Iwinge but xii* in the week^f 
the Richer sorte doe rather despise then obey tha sa' 
And likwim by the negligent of the Clericie, aad 
miwmi W^ the warrs hath oreaaioneti. Airi ili 
defection of the sobieels In tha cause 
noe heipe but that the king's power 
begine and make way'f' his Lawes, w^- urmg t 
neode noe longer or i>llier assistance, but yt salCt/* 

" It may be obiected, Tlial it is uniust to cooui 
man to come to th~ Church, or do* ania vliMr 
against his Conscienre." 

" Wee sunswere «r«t, yf the Coming* lo O* Obastb Is 
Coiiiannded by the La we of God, as we most not odialtt 
anie op|iosition lo the Cmilrary in the gover*", for 1 ' 
wine iff o» Lawes should be gainst tlie vi«.r.|» r/ ( 
they weare ullerlie voyde, fur arts of plam* mad* SK* 
the LaweofUodareToyde, whereforf •!-' '-" 
llieii if sole man^ Oonscirnce doe •'■ 
he ought not to goe lo 0' Chiinli, •>» ■■ 
due ngainat his conscience is dniin;,"' - 
bound sub peiia damnstiouls (]i-i> Mt ur I ..1 
tanquam Erroneaa. Soe thai it u a CL^..;. 




[terror of temporall paniibtDGaU to put Htcli p'gon out 
lh«t iLate of (Jimnation." 

*8«*condlie wee aanswer, Thit since the matter of 

Binge CO o* Cbnrcb is become doobtfull in a generality, 

ipreteatanu und many aeculare priettn mayolsyoioge 

I aUDa, And the Jesuits contrailictinge it. And the 

of Koome not yet liauiiig decided the Conlro- 

'i can Dot be but that io tho knowledge and Coo- 

i of laT and unlearned men, Tbo aame ataiideth yet 

hll, "fhen it followetb that rocb p'loDt belngo 

' the king'n Allegeanoe, and nnder ibe obedience of 

\ Lawea, and bound Ueponere conacientlam talem tan- 

Mkm miiioj Inatruclam, And to lubmitt thcire know 

ledge aiid Conatieiices to the wiailome of tbeire Magistrate, 

'^~ nJin> of the Lawe8,w<=>> they ought to doe prop- 

obedientiK, nntyll by search and prayer the 

I may be cleereU." 

, to allowe that etiery man ahould exempt 

frum Ibe obedience of the L»w« wO' a pretenc« 

Conicience, woare to giue waya to anery prirale 

g*lon to be freedo from all piiblick Lawea, 3oe tliaC b« 
k*_Law«a neuer Doe wise, holaome, Just, or Godly, the 
Cenion and noleamed people may diacharge them'selrei 
tf tbcite doty by dayming or preteadlnge the «amc to 
b« againtt their* erroneooi or Ignorant O>oaviencea, w<^ 
!• Da« other tbea to aaltiect gowl Laarea to the will and 
plcaaore not only of the wise but of the tymple." 

Mfl have thought it worth while to give theae 
K7 long exLrocia, becaiue I ahould imagiiie it to 
be impoMible to find any otheri which so clearly 
show the state of opinion on the question of toler- 
ition in the first years of the ecveiiteenth century, 
uid which ao plainly distinguish it from the 
opinion uf the comiuencement of the sixteenth 
century on the one hand, and from the opinion of 

IB eightaentii ceoturj on the other. 
, S. R. GAtDUUn. 



ISoma of Iha readeri of " N. k Q," hftve, pos* 
my, no knowledge, eren by name, uf a writer 
wbo has probably produced more works than any 
Htlior OQ record. Uis writings have, with one or 
fio exceptions, remained unpublished ; and this 
■counts for their beiug unknown. The author in 
jBcaiioti La John Ilagen, or Joannes de Indagine, 
h Carthusian monk, who at the age of twenty- 
Eve entered tlte monastery at Erfurt, and died in 
the jrear 1475. aged 60. CaveMctus to have been 
Drent of his existence, fur raere is no mention 
him in the Uittoria Literuria, Sixtus Se- 
liais, iu his list of commentators on Scripture, 
ilious him with this eulo^ium — " divinarum 
mirum rerum cogniiione prsestans" (^Bib- 
Sancla, p. 270.), and then enumerates 
commentaries from his pen, seemingly 
nrMit of any others; whereas he b«s written 
»t copiuiis oouimentaries on every book of the 
Ltiia-iptures — necessarily copiousi, for he adopts 
t oU-fnahioned, but most comprehensive method 
kation, the quadruple exposition, sccordiug 

Bur senses of Holy Writ, — the literal, and 

' Bytticai i the latter being sabdivided into the 

allegorical, the tropological, and the anagogical. 
John Hageu's method is, accordingly, to give four 
distinct treutiscs on each chapter. 

PossevLnus the Jesuit, and Trithemius, have 
given a more extended notice; the latter pro- 
ducing a long list of some sixty works, which he 
had himself seen. Triihemius, however, himself 
had but a. comparatively slight acquaintance with 
this writer, for we find, on consulting the Bib- 
liolheca Cartutiana of Fetreius the Carthusian, a 
distinct cniuneration of not less than 433 works, 
in addition to those recorded by Tritliemius, 
making a total of nearly 200. Well may Fetreius 
exclaim, after detailuig. this amazing amount of 
intellectual exertion, — " O injientcm libroruuu 
roolem I O admirandum plurimarum noctium 
annorumque laborem 1 " 

Fetreius, after expressing an ardent wish that 
the Superiors of the Order would bring to light 
these works by their publicatiuu, speaks thus of 
their author ; — 

■* Fuit etenim in hoc viro incredibills qaadim ma- 
moria, plurimarum et maximarum rerum docirine, necnon 
et diligtintia in elucubrando, coostancia io perseverando, 
judicluin in discerneodo. Qui usque adeo librorum scrip- 
Ciuni inteatus fuit, ut ne tam qutdum h commentandi 
scribendique liibore conqalescere potuerit, quando in |iau- 
pcrcuia qu&dam Cartnsiil simplex celliLa delite»!en9, can- 
tlelarum usu, aliiM|tte admlnirulis ad elucabrandiiin nc- 
cesaariit, omninu deatitutua fuit. Its nmnque jurenea ^ 
Parribus noatris accepimu», eom aptiicet. cum nun po«»et 
anfficienti poiiri lumine, intertlum n nfiu pinguioribuiqut 
ewWmh'f luminls fomilem eibi Lpai concinuisse. Code 
eliamnum, pleraqaa ipaiui lonpta. propria tnauu exarata, 
{UDguedine undequaque insigoiter sunt delibuta, ac beni 
inuncta." (£<M. Carhuiatta, p. IGS.) 

It is to be remarked also that during a great 
portion of his monastic life he had to discharge 
the onerous duties of Prior. He presided at dif- 
ferent times over three houses of his Order, and 
consequently must have been much distracted by 
the carea of government. Indeed he meiiUons 
this occaaiooally at the end of some of his worki, 
as an apology for their imperfections- 
It has, probably, occurred to the reader to re- 
mark that many of these works must have been 
short treatises. Possibly a certain proportion was 
of that description. But I have the means, my 
self, of forming a notion of this, for I possess not 
less than ten bulky codices of this author. Eight 
of these are autograph ; the remsiialng two are by 
a professional scribe, with the auLlntr's autograph 
corrections and marginal notes. If I may judge 
from these codices, I conclude that the works are 
generally very voluminous. For instance, I have 
his Commentary on Gmfti-i. It is written in a 
close hand iu a quarto volume, and occupies, I 
should guess, 600 pages — for the book is not 
paged — and yet the volume contabs only half 
the Commentary on OeiutU, for it breaks off at 
the 26ih Chapter. I can verify, too, the in- 
teresting remark of Fetreius respecting the " v*"^- 



t«^ & X. Aco. «. 


guedo," for in the volumea I possesa there are 
occasional spots of grease, ari»in^, no doubr, from 
handlinij; the midnight lamp of fat. It is very 
interesting also to note how, either ut the begin- 
ning or the end of each work, he solicits the 
prayers of the reader, in these or similar words — 
"orent le^entes pro Joanne de Indatjine." 

I fear that most of these works have perished 
with the wreck of the Carthusian monasteries in 
Germany, where they were principally pre8crve<l, 
I have thought it desirable to record in " N. & 
Q." the fact of so prodigious an exercise of the 
human intellect, and conclude with asking if any 
correspondent can furnish us with an example of 
a greater or so great an instance of brain labour. 
Some of the Fathers, as well as Su Thomas 
Aquinas, have written most voluminously, but 
not equnlly with John Hagen, if the average of 
his works was of the calibre I have supposed. 
Varro is ioid to have written 500 volumes ; but 
probably tiey were short treatises ; he moreover 
lived beyond the age of 90, whereas John Hngen 
died at 60. John Wiluams. 

Aroo's Court. 


In the Rev. Sloane Evans's Briiuh Heraldry, a 
Tery useful work on the subject, there are one or 
two curious errors ; and as one of them is main- 
tained by the " Order " in reference to which it 
occurs, a few remarks may tend to draw forth a 
more satisfactory explanation tlian I can offer. 

Under the heading " Laws and Scale of Prece- 
dence," the above author describes as " Nobiles 
Majores," "Dukes, Marquesses, Earls, Viscounts, 
Barons, and Baronets" and claims for the lost the 
style of " Honourable ;" but this appears to me 
to be only a style corresponding with " Warikip- 
ful," as applied to gentlemen of the olden time. If 
such designations were to be taken in their literal 
acceptation, we should have, with equal truth and 
propriety, officers holding royal commissions in- 
sisflng on their right to be styled " Trusty and 
well bclovwl," OS " the trusty and well beloved 
Lieut. Z." &c. 

The reverend author remarks that it is "ex- 
ceedingly strange " that the baronets do not as- 
sume ihiii title ; and he farther approves of their 
assumption of a coronet with four pearls. 

Now it strikes me that these ideas arise from a 
misapprehension of the true position of a baronet, 
and in consequence of attributing to the prenent 
institution, or order of baronet, the dignity which 
appertained to the teuer barons, tomttimeg called 
" BaronetM," who were peer* by "writ of gummont," 
and not hy feudal tenure, at were the greater barons, 
who were invariably styled »imply "■Baront," 

In the twelflh, thirteenth, and fourteenth cen- 

turies the distinction was frequently made 

tween the great barons hj feudal tenure and tht 

by " itTiV of sitmmoiis" who, to mark their inferior 
rank, were often styled, as I have !>:i' ' " '* 
rtetx." These distinctions were rer 
rately stated hy Mr. Hemming bcfoit ..... .;, 

of Lords. (Berkeley Peerage.) 

It may be that, without sufficient eonsideral 
the honours of the feudal leMer baronx, or iHiro\ 
have been claimed for the order of Jamen 
creation, by accepting a coincidence of namet 
the actual J'ac/.f of the case. It is seemingly ft 
cious to augur : — 1. Baronets, in the time of 
Edwards, wore coronets and had the style 
peers. 2. We are baronet*. 8. We ^re entji 
to the style of peers, and to wear coronets. 

The name is the same, but the origin, — the 
dition, position, and in short everything but 
name and hereditary privilege, — was entirely, 
every one knows, distinct. There is indeed 
much difference as between a Roman Conttil 
ancient Britain and a British Consul in 

I have made these observations, not to critii 
the useful work from which I have quoted, batj 
ventilate an obscure subject. SpAia 

P.S.— There are other minor miatakcs 
may bereafler point out. 


Within the last few months the house at Pal- 
prave, Suffolk, in which " honest Tom Martii 
indulged his antiquarian and jovial propeasit. 
from 1723 to his death in 1771, has been pullj 
down. It was a large double-roofed house, » " 
central entrance and thirteen windows in fn 
looking towards the village church, upon a tc>na 
of greensward, and its northern end ni);ii.i 
road to Bote.idate and Bury St, Eih 
it was not built by Martin, to him u- 
be attributed the inserting, in the central up 
front window, of the arms of Archbisbo 
croft, a position which they retained tut 
the house stood. J^ 1774 it became the 
the Rev. Rochemoht Barbauld and his raa 
brated wife. He was minister of the 
terian congregation at Palgrave, which met'' 
plain, old, domestic-looking building long «fl 
removed, though its retired site remains enclo 
as a burial-ground. Palgrave .school attained i 
siderable eminence, and the long casement 
dow of the school-room, in the south wins 
back of the house, showe<l for many n yfl 
diamond-cut names smd scribblings ol aspiring j 
idle pupils. Forty years ago there wer»' rillsj 
who remembered and delighted to talk of 
" great school," and the exploits of the ja. 
noblemen who figured there. In » carpcat 



hard by I remember finding, nailed up, a 
ited bill announcing tbe performance oT a play 
the "youiiff gentlemen." During Mrs, Bar- 
bkuld's residence at P»lgrave, her mother, Jane 
Aikin (vat. Jennings) died there. A stone in the 
BborcbTard Gtili murks her grave. The family 
left Palgrave iu 1785, and the school waned. It 
iraa, however, curried on for many years by Dr. 
Phillipa, the Rev. John Tremlett, and Dr. Lloyd 
incocssivelr. From 1815 to 1818 the Rev. John 
Pollagar, smce of Chichester, occupied the bouse. 
M^rwards it was yariously tenanted, and at last 

tm. ladiea' boarding-school, under the name of 
(arbauld House." Having been purchased by 
I owner of an adjacent residence, every vestige 
af tbe buildinjis baa been awcpt sway> A thriving 
foung plantation and a luxuriant crop of corn 
prow where tbe scions of the Selkirk and Tem- 
pleton families, Chief Justice Dennian, 8nd Sir 
IViHiam Gell, Dr. Frank Sayers, and William 
Taylor of Korwich, oa well as many other less 
notable but not less honourable persons, passed 
Ktme of the sunny years of early life. Such a, 
kouse should nut pass away unnoted. What is 
tteconie uf the heraldic memorial of the sturdy 
Conjuring prelate ? It may be a more hopeless 
loery. Is there a pupil of Mr. or of Mr^ Bar* 
Skuld aUU Uvmg ? S. W. Rix. 

Minor ^atti. 
A PACiricATOBT Pbecedest. — I believe it is a 
[>M't of your plan to eschew politics ; and it is 
>nly under the present peculiar ctrcumetiuices 
tbAt I would Ireneh, and that as briefly as I can, 
ya your very judicious resolve. Mr. Gladstone has 
Buule a heavy pull on our purses on account of 
the ** mousirum horrendum on the other side of 
the Channel, and in addition we are nuw threat- 
ened with the dissensions of the Houses of Par- 
liament. I hope, however, the latter may be 
uranged ; and I beg to point out an instance ot 
Ibrmer discord which terminated in a renewal of 
liarmony, nnd which perhaps may have been over- 
looked in the " search for precedents." It is with 
nuch diflidence, iind the greatest deference, I 
venture to quote from the Londtm Gazette, No. 
U6., of Thursday, 24th February, 16»g, when 
Mious disputes between both Houses of Parlia- 
Mot are stated to have been reconciled. The 
Zondon Oatettc has always been the official rcgia- 
|ir of the documents of the existing government 
&OC its commencement in 1665 : — 
W WI)it<h*n, Feb. 22, 1669-70. This day ths two hoosea 
Pltaiiiamefnt did, at bis Majuty'a gracious reconimenda- 
B, coreo to an bappy agr««nient iu tbe matter in dif- 
tac« Ixlween them, to the great joy and content of all 
wiah well to the proeperity of Ilia Majesty's gorern- 
, aad the pablick quiet of this bis kingdom.^ 



Several inquiries have been made in '* N. & Q." 
respecting the first use of these distinctions, and 
perhaps the following citation may be interesting 
to your readers : — 

" For the better bearing in memory the impressed >i(j- 
nalure for distinction of ooloars in Armt, which was de- 
vised by tbe Reverend Kdtber S. rf« Pttra Sancta, I 
have composed these verses : — 

[Here is inserted the diagram of seven colour). 2 

" Aumm puncta dabunt; Anitntum parmaq; simplex ; 
Fascia CVrru/mm ; palaria linea Rubrum ; 
Obliquun trai'tus Viridem ; Nigrumif; calorem 
Transvenum fllum dabit, et polare viciuirai 
Tractibus obliqnis fit Purpura oola sinistris. 
" Or the fourth vente thus ; — 

" Ductus transversi dant et perpeodicolares." 

tiibbon'a Jntrodugtio ad Latinam Blatoniant, 
1682, p. 152. 

BisaoPBic OF Nobwich: Cobob d'eubb. — 
The absurd practice of granting leave to elect and 
tyrannically limiting the choice of chapters iu 
the eleution of bishops in this kingdom, seems to 
have been pursued in the time of Henry VI., as 
appears by the following extract from the Con- 
gregation Books of the municipality of Lynn 
(where the proceedings of a meeting of the cor- 
poration, held on the 8th day of June, 3rd Hen. 
Vl., are recorded) : — 

" Et ib'jn sigtilata fuit una I'ra clauaa sub sigillo eoi 
direct* connilio Regis ad iostantib Tfaome ^Vursted* p' 
filio sua electu in Epm' ^orwic' cajiu copia reman' penes 
Co'm Cle'cum." 

The circumstances attending this case seem 
worthy of note and inquiry, especially as Wur- 
eted's son, notwithstanding the testimonial, did 
not succeed to the vacant chair. 



CuAB : CuABwoHAH. — I am not aware that 
any tatitfactory explanation bos yet been given of 
the origin or derivation of the word chnr, which we 
find only in composition, and that too I believe but 
in one word, viz. char-woman. It baa struck me 
very forcibly that this monosyllable is merely a 
corruption of the participle "chartered :" so that 
just as a vessel or a conveyance is chartered for a 
particular object or purpose, and as soon as that 
object is attained, or that purpose completed, is 
restored to its owner, &c., so lor the execution of 
some particular or extra-donxcatic work a woman 
is chartered or hired — not being in the regular 
service of tbe hirer — and having done what was 
required of ber returns to the place whence she 
caiue. The word char, therefore, owes its mean- 
ing (if this suggestion of mine be correct) not so 
much to the strictly pro|>er as to the conventional 

* Thia Thomas Wurst«d wu on« of tbe jaraU of alder- 
mva of Lynn. 



Que of the word chartered t ii«, this being the 
CMC, need anjr ohjectinti be raised tbftt there is no 
ether word in which this syUiible appean u re* 
[|>resenting a separate idea, or, in otber words, no 
I Other word in which it appears in composition: 
for that objection would apply whatever mi^ht be 
its derivation ; besides, it must be granted that if 
this sugjTOstcJ derivation bo correct, then, al- 
though it would liuvc a sensible signification in 
composition with many other words, it is no ob- 
jection that our language has onlr preserved us 
one example of its um, or even tnat it never has 
furnished but one. PuiroLooiig. 

EriTApn OK Ro8A.Mtr(fB. — 

<■ nic jacet io tumb& Rosa mund!, non Rosa munds ; 
Non redolet, sed olet, qua redolen solet." 

!this is usually quoted as an epitaph on our fair 
£osamond ; but in Corio's Hislory of Milan (vol. i. 
rp. 47.) it is stated to have laeen first pliiced on the 
I tomb of Rosmunda, queen of the Lombards, who 
Iflied by poison "in the sixth century (Stoma rfi 
XHitano, 8vo., 1855). There are several older 
r^litinna. Either in one of them, or in some other 
jltHllan history, I have seen a facsimile of the 
[iontb and inscription, evidently very ancient. 
I It always struck me as extraordinary that so 
i insultins an epitaph should have been composed 
for Lord ClifTord's dmighter, an interesting per- 
son (if she ever existeil), and probably more 
cinne<l against than sinning. It was much more 
appropriate to Rosmunda, an adultress who mur- 
derL-d her husband ; it must be udnutted under 
circiirastances of great i)rovfK;alion. 

The inscription at Godstow nunnctr, if still 
there, being a copy of the same distich, is evi- 
dently modern, and unworthy of the slightest 
notice. W. D, 

P.S. — To those who look on the story of fair 
Rosamond as a fable, it will seem nut improbable 
that the mode and some of the circamatances of 
her death were derived from that of the Lombard 

0UV8B CbOMW£U. a WoOt-HKOWBK. — Iq a 

long letter in The Peterborough Adcertiter for 
July 14, occurs the following passage: — 

" Ciptnla Cromwell was not only a Hantingtionshir* 
man, but a grower of wool. Hii sif^naturs may li« foaod 
in tb« parish books at St. Ivm, wfaers be seems to have 
•ttendMl the Vestrj'-nieetinga nith bis neighbours; aod 
there is, or was at no distant date, in St. Ires tb« old in- 
strument with which he branded bis sheep wttb the 
Initials 0. C." 


Stars cobtfased to Settkies. — In Macaulay's 
'review of Robert Montgomery's Omnipresence of 
the Deity, it is alleged that in the line, 

" Untroubled sentries of the sbadowy night," 

the metaphor la stolen from Campbell's Soldier's 

Drtam. While admitting that nothing con be 

more inappropriate, or nnpoetical. than tb« \ 
phor in R. Montgomery's hands, I cannot MiewT 
he wos indebted to Cainpb«n fbr it. Hoeh a mi- 
(aphor I hold to be commfrfi prry^x" ' }m 

been used by scores of poet*, and bi^ • hj 

anyone without plagiarism. The e«rlii«i exampM 
of the metaphor I know of are ihme : — 

" The stars, heav'n's centry, wiok and aeetn t« Ala.* 

" ■ Ton borriil acetli 

That oentioel swart nighu" 

Mantoo's Amtmio'* i 


AthetMsum Clab. 

AruS or THB ClTT ot LoMDoS. — A « 
two ago, while inspecting some of tlje Uarl 
MSS. in the British Museum, I came ujxm 
in which was a curious and, to me, oovef re 
given for the presence of the dnagcr in the 
quarter of the city arms. The MS. to which 
lude is No. 1464., beinw a Visitation of Loi»4 
made in the year 1634, and commences w!i 
description of the city arms, to which the fo!l< 
log note is prefixed :^ 

"The auncicnt Arroes of the Citis of Lovdoa as ihiT 
Stand in oar Lsdy Church at Anctwcrp. in whioh ChiiKI 
W^indowss stand the ensigncs of Eiog Edward the iJ 
and all his Children, With nio»t of the Ames of tht ( 
porate Townes of England at that tymo. 
Standeth tirst and bath an ould Roman L 
quarter, SVhich John Stowe took in «d onid ! 
he had sene for a Sword, afltrmioi^ therby t>i" 
Sworde of S(, Paule, patron of the said Cir 
constantly affirmed that they sunciontly li.i . ii, 

and that it was no reward given by King? llithjuJ ttl 
Second, ta our Cronicles report, for the S«niice doos IB 
SmythOeeld against Watt Tyller y* Kebeli b 
WollwoTtb, Moior of London,' Who* slewe tfae i 
with bia Dagger, io Ueroory whereof, oar 
Dagger was added to the Cittie's Armes as bei 

Then follow two sketches of the city anas, i 
with the L and the other with the ilagger. 
fore discussing the subject of the anus, 1 1 
be glad to know whether the arms stllud 
above still exist in the church of Our Lady ' 
Antwerp ? and whether it is a fact that a Rooas 
L, aud DOt a dagger, occupies the first qoartt^ ' 
the arms of London P J. A*' 



fioTutxi), Sib Richard, Jcbticb TrmuBsn 

OF THE KwG. — Blomefield, in hii fit! 
the octavo edition of his Ilittory oj 
p. 491., states that John, son of Stephen ue nj 
ham, held in port (by inherirjtnce) with tLa Li . 
Alice Boyiand u hall called Boyland Hail in tk* 
north part of the town of Lynn, with kitchen, «!• 
lar, chamber, and a great stone front, situated I 
tweea the tenement of Warine de Mundeford i 

, X Apo, 4. «600 



ion Drew: ond that he conrejed hia purt to 
•id Simon Drew %t a fev'furm rent of 31#, 
ann., and reserving to iSVr Wm. Esturm^ a 
Bt of way under the stone front. BlonieGeld 
it slates tliat Ladjr Alice de Buyiand was 
[>bably wife or moulier of Sir Richard Boyland, 
judge; and that Wta, dt Et(unntf was at that 
Bcper of the city of Norwich for the kinz. 
hliia farther itnown of these circumstances ? 
AuKK IIekry Swatman. 
Household Books. — In the Appeu- 
to the interesting tide uf The Wwhingtont, 
, Simpkinson baa printed cupiouK extracts from 
AJUiorp HouselioM Books, whiuh uflbrd a 
wooderfuLIy clear insight into the mode of house> 
keeping in a nohienian'ii country-house at the he- 
gioqiu^ of the seventeenth century. Amoiii; th9 
preparations for the royal visit to Althorp in 1634, 
the following paymenia arc entered (App. p. 
ti.): — 

' To the Tiiniriek of Darentrw, J/. ; to the Ilirpers for 
~ ' nrwird«, 2/. ; to lAe Int* trumft, 1$." 

[Can any reader of " TS. & Q." explain this last 
■ ? The editor, in a note, says : — 

' loa'li trump? Wu this artidt and functiooary a ra> 
part of the Mtablishmeul of an Ian 7 " 

(li was iugf;e9ted to the editor by a corre«poa« 
^t that the wonla might be Jewe'i trumpt. 

Jew's harp" is siili so called in Scotland. But 

I seems that the word in the AIS. ia unmistakably 

[a decisire contr«dict5«»n of tho story about the 
" ;hting of the loin of beef by Charles II. oc- 
at p. xlvi. : — 

I* Jan. 1 63|. For a S' loin, ■ rampe, a bnttocke, 2 
rka, and a rood of beKf." 

[Wberft is tho epigram of four lines to b« found 

~! cAnnot quote tbein correctly) which states this 

lighting to have taken place r* Jatdks. 

^Gborob III. A!n> Hakmah Liohtpoot — Db. 
iUXK, at the commencement of hist Life of Queen 
tto, in his amusing Lites of ih» Qmtnt of 
".refers to the story of George Ill.'s early 
! with Hannah Liglitfool, a Quakeress. As 
ttory is there told, the uiarriajje was cele- 
in 17^9, at the Curson Street Chapel, by 
RcT. Alexander Reitb, with George's brother, 
Duke of York, as a witness ; and it is stated 
it chUdrcn were born of the marriage, and that 
a time the Quakeress wife was got rid of 
" hj espousing her to a eentle Strephon named 
Axford, who, for a pecuniary consideration, took 
Flannah to wife, and asked no* impertinent ques- 
tions." What truth is there in this story r If 
this marriage were really celebrated, would it not 
have been a valid marriage, being prior to the 
oyol Marriage Act ? I have heard that a son 

||pyal ? 

[• 8e« " N. & Q." 1« a ii. 832.— EI..J 

born of this marrisje was sent, while a child, to 
the Cape of Good Hope, with the name of Geor|^ 
Hex, and that he still lives there, and bears this 
nsme.* Irquikeb. 

" History or RoBBsrtERnE." — Who was tho 
author of nn octaro (pp. 1.16.) entitled Tha Hit- 
ton/ of Robftpierrt, Piditical and Perianal, ^-o., 
London, 17M? And what authority is there for 
stating, BS in p. 2., that this detesuble monster 
was at oi>e time " in so low a situiUion as porter 
in a shop in Dublin" 1 Abhba. 

SxB Thomas Williamb. — Can any correspon- 
dent say to what family Sir Thomas WiUiaros be- 
longed ? styled in a document, 1st Sep. 31 Eliz., 
"of Tintern in the county of VVeaheford (Wex- 
ford) in the reftioi of Ireland." He died 12lh 
.Aug. 1^91, and lel't six sisters his coheiresses, »nd 
was posiiessed of a considerable property in Mon- 
mouthshire, where the name is common ; and it 
mi<;bt be inferred that he was a native of the 
county, but no such person appears in any pedi- 
frree of the various families of the name connected 
with it. T. W. 

Hehaldic VisrrATioHS op Ibish CoirjrrrEs 

Are there extant any heraldic visitations of conn- 
ties in Treland besides the one of Wexfor<l, which 
was mnde, in the year 1618, by Sir Dnniel Moly- 
neux, Ulster King-nt-.^rnm, some of whose jjenea- 
lofjical and topf>frniphi(«l MSS. are in the libniry 
of Trinity Oolleffe, Dublin? And if so, where 
are they deposited f Abhba. 

Verbbb amb Laxmie OB L'AicTB Famiusb. — 
Information wanted ■§ to the time the Vernera of 
Church Hill, co. Armagh, settled in Ireland, and 
from whence they ranie ? Also the Lamiiiies, or 
L'Aniys, who settled at Rnphoe, co. Donegal P 
— one of whom (tradition says) was Bishop of 
Raphoe, in said county. Where did they come 
from ? C. I/AMKiB Vbbwbb. 

Naval Asylum, Phtlsdelphia, America. 

Joseph Scaliobr. — In Sir William Hamilton's 
Lectures on MvUiphysies (vol. i. p. 259.), he says, 
in speaking of the power of abstraction, that 

" Joseph Scali(rer, tha roost learned of men, when a 
Protestaat student in Paris, was so engrOMcd in the stutly 
of Hnmcr. that ha became aware of tha matsacre of St. 
Bartholoinew, and of his own escape, only on the day 
sabae<|DtBC to Uia ratoatropbe." 

In the Qiiarterty Review for Ja!y, the crttiqne 
on Jacob Bernays' Life vf SeaHger says (p. 50.) : — 

" On the 22n(1 of tfa* fatal month of Anfcnst, 157?, 
Scaliger. who hitppcnni 1o be at Lyons on basines\ re- 
reired notice to iiifel Monluc it SirLttvurpf. lie net olT, 
taking ibe route through SwilscrUnil, antl slept at Lao- 

[* Is there not some miKtake here? for, suppoting the 
son to have been bom in 1760, be woald no"" b« ».cko.v«.- Is the Oeorpe 'Rtx wtaxtA \ft 1X« w» <j^ »»^ 
older George Beai — E.c,'^ 




canne on the drcadrbl ni§:bt of the 34(fa, i|;noruil of tlie 
tragedy then enacting in Paria. Kot till lie reacbed 
Strnaburg ilid he Icam (he horrid news," &c. 

Will you tell me in your auswers to Queriea 
which is the correct account ? R. H. 

Taafs axp GoRDojt Fa>iu4E». — Cnn your cor- 
respondent, Mb. D'AtTON, or any reader of " N. 
& Q ," inform me -whether nny of the following 
liimilies are to be found in D'Alton's Ulustratioat 
or elsewhere ? Was Christopher Toafe the Colonel 
whose niune h found in the pedigrees of the noble 
family of Toafe? and was Gordon, of Enni«killen 
and Louth, who married the daughter of Christo- 
pher Taafe, of a Scotch family P And if so, 
whence ? 

(I.) Christopher Taafe and his wife Mary, whose 
sons were : 

1. Arthur Taafe died about 1760-2 (in Ja- 


2. Henry Taafe (Rev.); sons: 1. Arthur 

Rodger Taafe. 2. John Armistead T. 
3. Richard Brownriff T. 4. Thomas 
Wheeler T. A daughter. Eliznbeth T. 

3. Anne Tanfe, m. to Oordon' of (En- 

iiiskillei] ?). 
(2.) Taafe ond his wife Anne, of the pa- 
rish Drunisiska (co. Louth, Ireland), their chil- 
dren (some in the West Indies) : 

1. Michael Taafe, die<l about 1761-2. 

2. Catherine, m. to Peter Clinton of the same 


(30 Susanna, wife of Theobald Taafe, of Hano- 
ver Si(uare, St. George's par. Middlesex, and of 
Jamaica ; yonnf^est daughter of Henry Lowe. 

The breaking vp of the Taafe family towards 
the close of the seventeenth century gives un in- 
terest to these inquirie.s. Taatk. 

WiiAEs AKD Junius. — Where now are the 
autobiogriiphical MSS. of Jithii Wilkes? At the 
commencement of the present century they were 
in possession, I believe, of Lis sister. 

C. Ferrahd Cabbw. 

Cbown Diamonds op Fbancb. — Lamartinc, in 
his History of the Girondixts, mentions in several 
places tlint Danton and Roland were a^xused of 
having done away with tlicprealer portion of the 
diamonds belonging to the royal crown and ward- 
robe. According to him they have never been 
traced. Would you kindly inform me whether 
these diamonds have over been recovered, or what 
you know of their fate ? 

Perhaps you will at the same time have the 
goodness to name a faithful and extensive bio- 
graphy of Marie Antoinette, no matter whether 
French, English, or German. An Alusm. 

* His son, Barry Gordon (to SU JUaJalf't tervict ?). 

Wms bit r«iher, Gordon, ever marrisd to a Mary 

.^o/iet of the Hauelagh family? 

American Rivers. — Which of the two riv 
of America, the St. Lawrence or the T 
is supposed to discharge the largest ' 
water into the ocean? X. Y. i 

Robert Robinson. — Can any of yotir coi 
spondents inform me respecting Robert Robi 
son, of London, about 1&59? Was be a mini:) 
in London, and are any works of his published ? 

J. Tatlok, J 

" Bukthbn'o Pilobix." — Can any reader 
"N. & Q." recollect ever seeing the foHi>v»ltu- «| 
legory in print ? The Burlheri'd PUgr: 
ff'c, of aoout the date 1750, commiii ■■ ^ 
these words, "There liv'd a man in y" City 
Destruction named Graceless." Tlie introductii 
is a poem of 79 lines, and a poem of 58 lines 
eludes the work. D. Sbikjwii 

Sun Street, City. 

Fresufield op Nobwicb. — A John Freshfield, 
merchant, was living in St. Saviour's parish, in 
this city in 1768, and either he or, which is more 
probable, a son or other near relative of his, mar- 
ried, in 1785, a lady of the name of Maude. I 
should be very glad to be supplied with a descri] 
tioQ of the armorial bearings of this gentlemi 
and with ariy information concerning his family, 
lie was, 1 believe, a member of the Society of 
Friends. Wm. Mattbbws. 


WiTTT Savings op Charlzs II. — 

"1 hare made a collerlioo," asyt Walpole, "ol 
witty saytDgs of Charlc* II., and acollectioo of ton 
by people who only luiid one witty thing in the whi 
course of their lives." — WalpoHana, vol. i. p. 68. 

According to Mr. Cunningham, in his Story of 
Nell Gwyii, p. 94., " both these collections are, it 
is believed, unfortunately lost;" but is there any 
hope of discovering, with the oid of " N. & Q," 
that they arc extant? Abubi. 

" Prbssiwo to Death." — Where may I fioJ 
particulars of the case of Matthew Rynn, who, 
when on his trial at the Kilkenny assizes, in tL-' 
year 1740, " affected lunacy, and, refusing !' 
plead, was pressed to death two d«y.i subw- 
quently in the market-plncc ?" And iu what 
year was the punishment of pressing to death Cot 
refusing to plead abolished in England? Abbsa. 

" Origin of Governments." — Cnn any of •■ 
readers tell nie who was the original French n.; 
of the book translated into Spanish under the loi- 
lowing title, or give me any other inforni»tinn cot)- 
cerning it ? I have searched in vain at the British 
Museiuu : — 

•• La Voz de la Nsturolesa iobre «1 OHgea <le loa 0«- 
biertios : I niducida del Frincaa al Costellano de la ttgamU 
cdicion qui «« publicb en Londres en 1809. Santiago: OS 
de D. Man Maria d« VUa, 1818. 8 torn. 8rv." ~ 



9^ S. 3L Aug. 4. '60.] 




AiiDBORictis. — Who is the author of the follow- 
iog work, and did he publish n Second Part, as 
staled in the Preface be would, if the First Part 
met with acceptance ? — 

" A R«y to the Pilgrim's Frogreaa, designed to auist 
th* odtnirer* of that excellent book to read it witb 
uoderttaDding and nrofit as well as pleoaing entertain- 
ment : in n Series of Letters to a Friend. Bv Andronicas. 
Loodoo, printcfd by J. Barfield, No. 422. Oxford Scrcet. 
for the author, and sold by him at Nn. 12. Great DistaS' 
Lcnei, Friday Street- Sold also by 11. D, Syroondv, Pater- 
nester Bow; Mr. Nalley, Kensington; and by all tlie 
tiookaelleni in town and country, mikk^xc." 

Who was Andronicus ? R. W. 

Sana V\*anted. — Can any of your correspon- 
' dents inform me where I can meet with the an- 
twtr to " Phillida Flouts me," by A. Bradley ? 

C. J. D. Ihglsoew. 

[It is printed in 77ie Mtuical Mitcdlany, vol. ii. p. 13G., 
publiahed by John VVatt^ 1729—31, and m The Miw, ii. 
2H,, edit. 1727. It commences, — 

" Ob ! wbere'a the plague in Lore, 

That you can't bear it? 
If mra would constant prove, 

They need not fear it. 
Young maidens, soft and kind, 

Are most in danger; 
Men waver with the wind, 

Each man's a ranger : 
Their faUebood makes u« know,') 
That two itringa to oar bow > 
Is best, I tind it so: J 

Bamaby donbts ma."] 

" OuB TO THE Cdckoo." — In a work to which 
there are a number of contributors, inconaiaten- 
cies ore pardonable ; and this, I presume, must be 
taken as the excuse for the followin;: cotitriKiic- 
tory statements in the current edition of the 
Enryclopcedia Dritonnica. In the notice of Mi- 
chael Bruce the authorship of the beautiful "OJe 
to the Cuckoo" is ascribed to him; while in that 
of Logan it is said that the evidence of the same 
authorship greatly preponderates in favour of the 
latter. Has it l>een ascertained which account ist 
the correct one ? T. 

[The authorship of the " Ode to the Cuckoo," hai 
been the subject of a keen controversy, and will probably 
never be conclusively settled. The question is fully dia- 
eoaaad in Anderson's edition of Tht British Pottt, vol. x). 
p. 1037.: in the Life of the Rev. John Logan, prtfijied to 
bl« Pormi, 12mo., 1805; and iu the Life of Michael finicot 
preflxed to Lxhlmn, and olher Poem*, Vimo., 1837. Con- 
aalt alto Chambers's Biog. Diet. <>f Eminent Seolmitn, ill. 

BiBUooKAPBT. — Is there any book, in English, 
French, or German, published within the last ten 
jemrs, giving anything like a complete history of 
the art of printing ? especially examining, in the 



light of modern researches, the different theorie* 
concerning its origin. What I wish to find is 
something that will fill up the outlines Didot has 
so well sketched in an article in one of the recent 
French Encyclopicdias. 

Can any of your readers also tell mc what is the 
best modern history of paper and paper making, 
and whether there is any modern book of au- 
thority upon general bibliography, corresponding 
to Ilorne'g /w/rcufuctwn .' in other worda, ^Horne 
brought down to the present day ? R. E. H. 

[Oar corregpondent may consult with advnnlage the 
article " Bibliography " in the eighth edition of the En- 
cyclofnidia Brilannica, which contains a notice of tho 
prin^pal works on this anhjeet. AAer all there is yet 
room for tome nseful work on this wide field of literary 
inquiry. The moBt recent work on paper is Richard Her- 
ring's Paper and Paper Miiking, Ancient and Modem, 2ud 
edit., 8vo., 1856.] 

Dboses. — Where can I find some notices of the 
Druses, particularly of their religious principles. 
Their atrocities in Syria are now exuitinf; consi- 
dciable notoriety. J. P. W. 

[An interesting and extended account of the Droaa 
religion will be foand in Churchill's Mount Lelnmon, tht 
Manneri, Cuttomt, and litiigitm nf itt Iiihuhitanli, Higto- 
ricat Rtcordt of the Mountain Tribei, ^c. 3 vols. 8vO. 

Lewis Sbahfb. — Can you give me any bio- 
graphical particulars regarding a dramatic poet of 
the reign of Charles I., viz. Lewis Sharpe, author 
of The Noble Stranger, a play, 4to., 1640? Is 
Watt's Bibliolhecu Britannica correct in ntlri- 
buling to him the authorship of the two following 
works? 1. The Reward of Diligevce, 8vo., Ifi79. 
2. The Church of England Doctrine of Non- 
Iteiii»tance juxtijied and vindicated, and the dam- 
nable Nature of rebelUou* Retiitance represented, 
4to, 1691. R. Inolis. 

[Tlie anilior of the last two works waa the Rev. L«wi8 
Sharps, rector of Morcton-Iinrnpatead. in Devon, a differ- 
ent person from the author of The iVoA/e Stranga-.'} 

Papai. TiABA. — Will you inform me who the 
Popes were, and the occasion on which the sevend 
crowns were added to the Papal tiara? R. P. 

[Tbe Rev. E. B. Elliott (Hor<B Apocafyptica, iii. 154.) 
baa tlie following note on the tiara: — "As to the three 
crowns of the Papal tiara, llicugb said by some with Sir 
Isaac N'ewtoD, to represent the three States of the Church. 
yet the circumstance of the tint being not asanmed on 
tbe episcopal mitre till about 1160 by Alexander III., 
the second by Boniface VI [I. as late ai tbe year 13ua, 
and tbe third soon after by Benedict XII. or Urban V. 
(see Ducange and his Supplement on Stgnnm, also Fer- 
rario, ii. 428.) it seems to me very questionable whether 
tbe third might not have t>een added, as other writers 
have said, in token of tbe Pap* I prophetic character, as 
well as that of Priest and King: or else, very possibly, 
of the Papal authority in heaven, earth, and belt, or 
purgatory. It signifled, says the Ctremon, Sona.ii., the 
■ sacerdotoUa et impwialis 'stunraa di^<u.tM «.^ni» V^ . 
t««t«».'"3 ^ 



[So* S. X. Abo. I. 

LWL ■ 

Datxi. — In Dr. Longrauir'i Guide to Speytide 

it is stated that, in an old cnstl« in tbe Highlands 

o£ Sc»tland, there La a black oak cabinet, whose 

front iii beautifully carfed. The moat cooipicuous 

fi(;ure ia tliat of a spread eagle, with one bead 

turned to it* lel\, and crowiMd. There occurs 

above ib the following inseriptioa and date : — 

" »oli 

:^ Deo 88 


The familiar monogram I.H.S. also occurs, and, 
in the lower part, the name Mabia, and the date 
1639. Can any of your readers point out the 
relation, if any, between these two dates, or aay 
to what the number 5588 refers? J. F. L. 

IK the 55 and 88 oro to be taken tog«tlier, they 
nay poMibly fmply the data from the creation of Che 
world, i. t. A.M. 8388. Thi», eccordiog to ordinary com- 
pnt«tion<, would be about a.I). 1588 or ao. 1584. Can 
it ret'cr to the birth-yoar of the same fftj that date*, 
beneath, 16897], 

(2"« S. ix. 509.) 

The author of " A Few Words on Junlu«, fitc.," 
writes, " That Barbier states in bia journal under 
the date of Friday, Auji^t 7, 1761, after men- 
tioning the condemnation : *■ U menu jour ea a 
ex4cut^ I'arrdt ; et le bourreau,' &o." UnleH tbe 
two editions of the Jounud d» Jiarbier differ, 
although tbe varialioa ia not very great, the above 
it not quite correct. 

Barbier layg (I am quoting from the edition in 
8 vols., Paria, 1857), vol. vii. p. 391. : — 

" I>u 6 Aait, premier wrtil. La Coar a ordonn^ que 
plai d* Tiogt-qnalre liTfee et onviagai dea J^uitc*, im- 

firim^ depai* 1590, toai ^qodc^ dans I'arr^t, icront 
irtfr^ et brQlda par le bourreaD, comme s^itieax, de- 
ftmcteun d« la morale chrAienne, enseignent one doc- 
trine menrtri^re et aboniinBtile, non genleroent contre la 
»<lret^ »t la vie des citoyens, mail mime contre celle dee 
penoonea lacr^ dee aoDverainti enjoint k taas ccuz 
qoi en ont dea examplairae, Ac" 

And at page 395. he adds : — 

" I^ Vendrtdi 7 (Aoflt, I7Gt). Au matin, on a ex&ut^ 
I'arr^ et le bonrrean a bnil^ an pied du grand e«alier 
ptas de vingt-einq Urres on ouvnigei fkita ancionnement 
par des JAohftSj leplupart«?trange«." 

And it would appear that thia wu the fact, 
and that the books were burnt in Au^rnst, 1761 ; 
for Auguttin Theiner, Hittoire du Pontifical de 
Clement XIV. (Paris, 1852), vol. i. p. 33., in 
describing the eventa of I76I, says ; — 

-Itfik leu 8 et 18 Jnillet (1761), il (1« Parlement), 
a^ait. a l« enite dn rapport fiit mr le deminde de I'Abbtf 
Chaarelin, pnhliquement d^nonc^ la doctrine et la morale 
dci Jdioites, et promii en mime temps do d^montrcr, 
dani le pine bref delai, combien elle dult dangenrate i 
I'dyliia M aax ^uta cbrtftiena. On raaterabla done lee 
oarr^fiM dea principtax tbMogieng canoniatea et moral- 

istca d« celte aocWta, et ili ftirenf, pr^«Bdit>oai, aeBaiia 
au plui exact et au plua rieourenx ezainen. II terait 
inutile de dire qu'iU fuient, au cimtralre, examin^ avw 
(Dtsnt de l(*j{erBl^ que de malice. On ne se dnnnn pal 
meme le temps de lire quelque* pufreo d« eei rolomlnnix 
&rit«: ntalbeureiuKment Mmblait r^^er alora le pmulpt 
que Ics ourriKet d'ua J^uile quelcouque, pnuf panqu'U 
eut de i:<:lebrit^, n'jvaifDt nul b<^suiii d'etra azamiirfa 
pour encourir I'miaibi^nie. Tel fut Ic triite aort de Bellar. 
tnin, Gretier, Suaicx, Sanches, Toledo, Leiaiua, Ar. Is 
Parlemeot fit de rea ouvragea un acandaleax aat»-de-Mt 
ila farant amonceloa tar un grand bCtcbar dana la conr ita 
palai* de Justice, au pied du rraivd Mealier, laroMa par b 
bourreau et impiboyablemeDt livr^ aux flaniiae%" 

Tliis statement not only oonfirmt tbe fact that 
the books were burnt in 1761, but also points out 
in just and strong language the gross injustice 
with which the examination of their oontcuta wai 
conducted. Had the burning of (he books been 
deferred until the year 1762 — sltbougb no doabt 
can exist of tbe partiality with which tbe ex sad- 
nation would always have been made, ye( |be 
space of thirteen months having been employed 
therein, would in some degree have renored tbe 
charge of indecent haste. 

The i<lea that tbe ftrret was suspended far the 
space of one year, namely, from August 1761 
until August 1763, may have arisen from the fol- 
lowing cause : — 

On tbe 8th and 18th July, 1761, tlie works of 
tbe Jesuits had publicly been denounced by the 
Parliament, and an examination of their writings 
directed to make good this charge. Lonis XV. 
resolved to make one effort more to save the So» 
. ciety, ond on the 2nd August, 1761, " II ordonna 
au parlement, par un edit en date 2 Aout^ de 
surseoir pendant un annfe; et au Jesuiiea, de 
remettre au conseil royal les litres d'elabliaM- 
ments de leurs inaisona en France," &c. 

The Parlement certainly registered this edict 
four days after it was issued, but with so many 
ofiensive restrictions as to render it useless, ana 
the king's purpose abortive, and tbev prooeeded 
at once to carry out their predetermmed project 
of destroying the Society of Jcaua \ aiid as on< 
means of effecting their purpose, they direct 
that the works of its moat learned members shoul(l| 
be in tbe first instance tulsely censured, and suj>> 
sequently publicly burnt. Phiup Pbiu.ip<ox. 


(2-* S. ix. 461.) 
In order to give a colour in some manner to lift 
mysterious attempt on the life of James VI. at 
Falkland, in 1600, it has been erroneously aa« 
serted that Dorothea Stewart, Countess of Gowrie, 
mother of the 2nd and 3rd EarU. was dnughter oC 
Henry, 1st Lord Methven, by Marijaret of Em 
land, dnughter of James IV. and wife of ArcSl 
bald, 6th Earl of Angus, whom she divorced 

t^ S. X, kvQ. 4. 'W.'\ 


1525. There is clear eiriderce, however, that her 
oiofher WM Ladr Janet Stewart, dau;;hter of 
Joiin, F«rl of Atbot, whom be married after the 
4iMolu(i>>n on both sides of existing Uca. She 
tKMMMed a temperament simtlnr to that of Queeti 
Mftrjfnret, nnd was four times married, viz. 1st, to 
Alexander Miuter of Sutherland ; 2ndl}-, to Hugh 
(afterwards Sir Hugh) Kennedy of Grivanmains, 
whom she divorced in 1544 on account of con- 
caziguinilj, and who lived for thirty years there- 
tfU'r ; 3rdly, to Henry, Lord Methven ; and 4tLly, 
to Patrick, 3rd Lord Rulhvcn, father of William, 
Irt Earl of Gowrie, whom she uurviveU. Previous 
to her marriaire with Lord Methven, an adulterooa 
ooDiwxion had exiited between them, in oonw- 
quencc of which four children were born : Henry, 
Janet, Marpiret, and Dorothea, nil legitimated 
under the Great Seal in I55I as bastard natural 
children of their parenla.* Of theae, Dorothea 
was married in I56I to William Master of Huth- 
ven, aderwards 4th Lord Kuthven and lit Earl 
of Gowrie, who was executed for the "Raid of 
Ruthven" in 1584 ; and by him was mother of a 
numerous progeny, the misfortunes of several of 
whom are matters of history. Ilenry, the son, 
was allowed by royal favour to succeed to his 
father's estate; and accordinfr to the territorial 
law that Uit^n existed in Scotland, became 2nd 
Lord Methven, He was killed in 1572, leaving 
issue by his wife Jean, daughter of Patrick, 3rd 
Lord Ruthven, and sister of William, 1st Earl of 
Gowrie, two children : Henry, 3rd Lord Methven, 
who died without issue; and Dorothea, who sur- 
vived her brother, and was in minority in ISST.f 
The ejctnei mode br A Qitbbist (2°o 6. ix. 461.), 
from the Rev. W. M'Oregor Stirling's Stmunaij/ 
Virw of the Oowrie Contpiracy, in so far as it is 
intellixible, is very erroneous, and states as facts 
aoaatbenticated assertions. R. R. 

* It is sinKnlif that a similcr blot txistarl In th« p«di> 
gnn of tbs Rmhvenn, William, Ijt Lord Rathrsn, bid 
bjr bis Brst wiC*. Isabel Livington, two sons, Williim and 
John, Imrn befuro marrinc'e, and wbilo Isabel's 6rst hus- 
band, Wilter Liniluy of Beaufurt, was alive. Tbejr ware 
legitimated, nod William's son became 2nd Lord Ruthven. 
The Itt lord had also, by bis second wife Christian 
FortMs, another son of the name of William bora in a 
similni manner twfore marriage, and legitimated. Ue 
was provided with the estate of Balliadaan, in Pertbsblrii, 
and was ancestor of tb« Earl of Forth and Bcatitfcrd, and 
other individoali of acta. In these tiroes stlch Irre^- 
laritias seem to have excited little scandal, from thair 
freqnent occurrence ; and the purity of descont of many 
of tha Brst Scottish families has been in some measure 
affected by tbem. 

t In an article relative to the Rothvsn family which 
•ppaarsd in "N. ft Q." f3°-> S. iii. lA.), thera art two 
toya gr a pMaal ermrs whicn I be*; to correct. la line 14. 
or tba taxt, Thomas, Lord Kuthven of Frttland, is de- 
airnated of Irtland; and in Hn« 3. Of tl>« fbot-nots, 
Jtiit^vm is substituted for JUethvtx. 

(2»* S. ix. 300. ; I. »3.) 

The IbllowinR additions and variations are tran- 
scribed from three more or less complete MS. 
keys in «ny copy (ed. 1817), wUiuh contains also 
The Sexagenarian^ a aatire in twelve stanzas, with 
the motto — 

* DsaMOde nobis Muaa ctelo, 
As thou wert wont to Hr. B- ." 

Haa it been printed f Who was the anthor t 
Toi- I. 


Ilanftirlb, near Richmond. 

Rev. Matthew Balaa. 


fi«n<! I College. Cambridge. 

Amynlt and Lady Grosva- 

Bury St. Edmunds. 
Manners Suttoo, Bishop ot 

Mr. Pretymsn. 
Cains Collage. 
Caius Colleea. [wich. 

Curacy of Su Andrew, Nor- 
BuckJen, Huat«, and Uol- 

beach, I.incoUifthire. 
Loigbton Busurd. 
Kev. W. D'OyUy; (0«Bt 

MaR. July. 1817.) 
May. I'emb'roke.* 

Manners Sutton, Arch- 
bishop of Cantarbory. 

Mr. Serjt Lens (but very- 

Charles Abbott, now Lord 

Dukaof LMda. 


Miss Hare. 

Sir Thomas Btevor. 

Dr. Psrr. BeUx was Us 
aasiatant at Stanmore. 

011a Fodrida. 1788. 

Essays on various subjects, 

Lord Maynard. [1790. 

Es-ston Magna, Essex. 

Heorv Alexander. 

Earl of Csledoo. 

Government of tlia Cape of 
Good Hops. 


Earl Spencer'Sk 

Dr. Parr. 


Mim Trefuoia. 

A miserable pun. rM.I>, 

Sis Osorga Baker, Bart,, 

Lord Percy (Duke of Nor- 
„ Lord . Earl of Bute. 

* I see that Saaaal May, M.A., Fambrolta, wt« K.ql» 
rator 1760-5L (CMMd^t Calendar, \%Vi^^-^'^^ 



Remote provinca. 



The Ma»ter. 


A Rcnilemaa. 


The Societj. 

61. The young man, 4c. 


The place. 


BUbop • • • 


Mr. • • • • 




N . 


• • •_• Collfga. 


• • • • • College. 


A Preferment. 


Two good livings. 


1U8. Eccantrje charaetCT. 


Fellow of a alMr Cal- 
One in partknlar. 



One In particular. 

13a Surviving brothar. 


Verv gr«at man. 


Abb^s sisters. 


The Isdy. 


Son of a Baronet. 


One whose learning 

was prnfoaml. 


Periodical work. 

Oriffinal volume. 



Valuable living. 


The Irishman. 


Near relation. 


A splendid situation. 


A Catbsdral library. 


A private collection. 





A lady. 




Sir O. B. 








Powerful and fritndljr 

Work «■•••• 

Rev. Mr! L • • • • • 

H n 

Amiable widow. 

823. Dr. A- 

Dr. Parr. 

Aalna Gellius. 




Mrs. Thompeon, bom Ton- 

Dr. Aahe. 

[This 18 evidenUr a mistake. Beloe refers to 

" Dr. A e, of Trinity College, who was senior 

wrangler of his year." Ashe was not senior wran- 
gler. In 1781 Ainslie of Pembroke College was 
senior wrangler, and Ainslie of Trinity College 
third wrangler.— J. R.] 

Samuel Storke. 


MiM HawUna. 

Lady Hawkins (bora Sid- 

825. Fint bosbaod. 
831. Third husband. 
889. You shall see, &c. 
892. A low-minded creature. 

419. Clergyman. 

Rev. Richd..Huini(ey (died 

Popular work on Pro- 

Vol. II, 


2. Popular theological 

„ Venerable prelate. 

3. Rigid Dissenter. 
„ Premier. 

„ Preferment 

It. Popular nobleman. 

2& A Deputy. 

29. Family connection. 

(4. Connection by mar- 

fi9. Sir G. O. 

77. Marquia W"****** 
79. Editor of Nearchus. 

83. Christian Bishop. 

84. United individuals. 
89. Bishop H. 

96. A foreigner. 

100. Situation of respect. 

101. One noble family. 
187. A friend of opposition. 
103. Historical labour. 

114. Individual under his 

118. Fourth Member. 

120. Eminent member of 

124. A book. 

„ Crabbed Latin poet. 
180. One lofty personage. 

148. County Hospital 

164. Gnat Lord G. 
IM. Tha two brothars. 

Lowtb, De Sacrft Po«si He- 


Miaa Nuones. 

Lord Sidmouth. 

West Ham, Essex. 

Lord Erskine. 

(George Bellas never De- 

Mrs. Beloe, daughter of 
Kix the Town Clerk. 

Miss Twiss, sister to Mr. 
Komble and Mrs. Sid- 

Sir Gore Ousley. (Qu. 
should it be Ouaeley ?) 


Dr. Vincent. 


Royal ^iety. 

Hurd? or Etorsley again? 

Tiberius Cavallo. 

He was Secretary of Em- 
bassy at Turin. 


Dr. Parr. 

History of the Revolution, 

Viscount Belgrave, now 
Eail Groevenor. 

John Reeves, Libeller and 
King's Printer. 

Mr. Fox. 

(Ed) pus Jndaicns. * 


The Author. 

Qu. Abbott Ld. Colcheater, 
or Abp. of Canterbury? 

Norfolk and Norwich Hos- 


Sir William Scott and Lord 

159. Mansion of a nobleman. 
„ One of the royal family. 

166. Next episcopal cha- 


167. A Minuter. 
„ An old grudge. 

168. Bishops of £. and L. 

Foley House. 

William Frederic, Dafce of 

Mansel Biahop of BristoL 


From the Epigram oo 
Bishop Bloater. 











Young •••••• 

Line 15. Tlie Bishop 

Primate of Ireland. 

LordB . 

Bishop of C 

G. Eari of O. 

Humble Oxfbrd Stu- 

Country vilUee. 

Venerable nobleman. 

Prebendal SUll 

Great public seminary. 


Noble family. 

One of the best, pre- 
bendal stalls. 

A deanery. 

Tlird clerical person- 

The Bishop. 

Another clerical person. 

Great public seminary. 

A^person who inher- 
ited, &c 

Popular charity. 

A private individual 

Benefice of some value. 

Preferment in metro- 




Honest but unfortu- 
nate John. 

216. All-potent satirical 

218. Subject proposed. 

224. Another friend. 

225. Lofty personage. 
227. Rich author. 

280. Bland author. 

281. Dull author. 

282. Bigot author. 
286. Universal author. 

238. Mrs. • • • 

239. Miss • • * 
245. Sharp, chattering, 

clever fellow 
Facetious, jolly, 

honest sort of I 
Dirty bookseller. 
Splendid bookseller. 




Bring, ■) 

Illy, r 

of body J 

J£ly QSpai—, 

Cleaver, Abp. of OnbUn. 



George, Earl of Orford. 

Irdimd, Dean of Wasturia* 


Cbaries, Eari of LlTerpooL 
At Westminster. 
Weetminster schooL. 

Wallop, Earlof PortaaMoth. 


Fisher, Master of tho Char- 

(Fisher) of Saliabmr? 

Andrewes, Dean ofCaotar* 

Weetminster sohooL 

Miss Ball. 

The Magdalen Hospital 
Lady Talbot 
Mickleham, Surrey. 
St. James', Westminatar. 

Porteus, Bishop of LoBdoa. 

Queen Charlotte. 


Lreland. (Not the Dean of 
Westminster, as ia evi- 
dent from the epttlMlm 
but his names ak e. ) 

William Gifford. 

Indian antiquities 
Dr. Shaw. 

Abbott Lord Colohester? 
Mr. Penn. 

Sir James Bland Bwmsc 
Pinkerton? or Geo. Chal- 
Dr. Rees? Belsham. 

Noisiest part ot noisiest 
Splendid bookseller. 
Canning bookseller. 

Booth and Beny. 

Thomas Miller, BeceUa. 
William Miller, Albemark 

Qkeapsida, Ponltty? 







370. Black letter bookseller. 
380. Eminent female penon- 

S81. Godly bookseller. 
Saperb bookMller. 
803. iEuigmii, 

308. Mr. 1' . 

806. Cbande 1. 
,, 2. 





■ 7. 



SU. 'Ilio* io light, &c 
316. Riddle. 

S29. Dr. W . 

„ D of G . 

381. Accompliibed yoalb. 

m. H 

838. Mr. J m. I 

„ Ludv J «, j 

856. B^-r. 

St. Keota. 


DacbeM of FortUnd? 

Rirington ? 



Perry ( MorningChronicle). 







Acorn; (gUndem matavit 


A visiting card? 
A needle. 

Duke of Gloncester. 


Beevor. Dr. Beeror's wife. 
Joseph Bix. 

(2°* S. X. 4. 54.) 

Hiring mnde many Not«a relating to the fumily 
of HattOD, in connexion with the tiatorr of Bark- 
ing, in Essex, where, at Clay Hall, Sir Christo- 
pher JlRtton, cousin and eventual heir of the 
lamoua ChanceMor, resided ft>r some years, I think 
I could satisfy Dh. Doran that the first Lord 
Hattnn was son, not of John, but of Sir Christo- 
pher Hatton, as stated in the first place by Mr. 
Ci~ Hopper. And the following, drawn up from 
many aourues, will, I believe, be found to be cor- 
rect. John Hatton, Esq., of Stanton, in Cam- 
bridgeshire, first cousin to Lord Cbani;cl[ar Sir 
Chr. Hatton, married Jane, daughter of Judge 
Shute. By her he was father of Christopher 
Hatton, knighted at the coronation of •lames L ; 
and who married, 1602, Alice, daughter of Tho- 
maa Fanshawe, E»q., of Ware Park, in Herts, and 
of Great Ilford, in the parish of Barking, Essex. 
On mcceeding to the Chancellor's landed estates 
in Northamptonshire, Sir Christopher removed to 
the family seat of Kirby, which, however, he did 
not live long to enjoy. Dying in September, 
1619, he was buried in Westminster Abbey. His 
eldest son Christopher, afterwards the first Lord 
Hatton, was bom at Clay Hall in 1605; knighted 
1625 ; married at Hackney, 1G30, Elizabeth, eld(>3t 
daughter and coheiress of Sir Charles Montague 
of Cranbrooke, in Great Ilford ; was raised to the 
peerage 1643 or 1644; and died in 1670. Two 
sons and three daughters were. the issue of bis 

I found twelve Hatton entries in the parish re- 

gisters of Barking, extending over m period of 
sixteen years, from 160| io 1618. The first is 
this : — 

" 1602. Christopher Hatton, Esqaire, and Alice Pan- 
shawc, married y* IS"" day of March." 

Next — 

" Baptized. 1604, March 25. Elizabeth, y danghter of 
Sir Christopher Hattoo. Kuight." 

" 1605. Christopher, the sonne of S' Christofer Hattoo, 
Ktiigbte, baptized the 11'" day of .Inly," 

Four other baptisms appear in the register ; 
Alice in 1607 ; Jane, 1609; John, 1610; Robert. 

Five burials are recorded: Alice in 1608; "a 
cbrisome child," 1611 ; Joan, 1613; Robert, 1614;, 
Tiiomaa, IRIS, 1 

Sir Christopher Hatton never owned Clay Hall,] 
which was in his day the property of the CoultQl 
fatnil V, and soon after passed to the CambelU. But 1 
he built a chape! there, in the year 1616, of which] 
I have a drawing. It probably enjoyed the dis- 
tinction of being the ugliest eccleaiaatical building 
in England. Some years since I saw it in use aa 
a stable.* Edwakd J. Saqe. 

10. 8p«nier Road, Newingtoo Green, X. 

DtixB OF Kkwt's Canadian Ebsidbncb (2»* 
S. ix. 242.) — No one has answered these Queries, 
which, though unimportant in themselves, are 
interesting under present circumstances, I wish 
to connect the apparent error of the officer whose 
letter I quoted, in describing the Duke as 
" Governor- General " of the Canadian Provinces. 
I have also to confess that it wai? only needful to 
consult Bouchette's Britirh North America, 1831. 
vol. i. p. 279., to find a notice of the residence in 
question. That writer mentions it as situated 
" in a most romantic position," and the property 
of Peter Paterson, Esq. It was then called 
" Haldimand House," from the name of a former 
resident. A correspondent in fjuebec informs 
me ihnt it is now known as " Montmorenci 
House," and adds, " the view from it is mag- 
nificent." Which is the best biography of the 
Duke of Kent? S. W. Eix. 


Lettkb of CaoMWELL (2^ S, x. 64.) — Is 
iTHfRiKi, sure that the name given in Cromwell's 
letter is Morison and not Monson P Sir John 
Monson was one of the Commissioners fur the 
surrender of Oxford in 1646, and came in upon 
the articles of that treaty. The undue severity 
of his fine is detuilud in a report in the CommontT 
Joumait, vol. vi. p. 610. The Committee of 
General Officers. Oct. 1647, declared its injustice ; 
Sir Thomas Fairfax, in a letter to the Earl of 

* Clay Hall itself has long since been destroyed, and 
no trace whatorer of tlie Hattona remains in Barkiog. 




Monohfliter, April, 1648, declared iti injtutice; 
unA the Commoiu, in Sept. 1649, corroborate 
this opinion, which, as I believe, is here repeated 
in the letter of the Protector ; nevertheleu the 
Attorney- General did not make his report until 
25 July, 1652, and then only was Sir John re- 
lieved from the severity of the sequestration. 
The petition of Sir John (alluded to, I conceive, 
in this letter *) is among the Burton papers. 

Some notice was taken in the last volume of 
"N. k Q." of a little book, An Ettay on Affiic- 
tion, addressed brjr Sir John Monson to " his only 
son from one of his Majesty's Garrisons," which 
the date in the dedication shows to be Oxford. 
A statement is made in that volume (p. 493.) of 
copies of that and a contemporary tract, both very 
n^ having been recently purchased for the Bod- 
leian. On mquiry of the Librarian I discover that 
statement to be erroneous ; no such copies have 
been purchased. Mossoh. 

Bartoa Hall. 

SocXATEs (2** S. X. 69.) ~ The curious book 
about which Fitzhopkiks inquires was written 
by a physician named Lelut, and was published 
nt Paris in 1886. It has, I believe, long been 
out of print. Here follows its title : — 

" Du D^mon d« Socrate, Sp&itnen d'une Application 
de la Science Paycholoijiqae ik celle de I'Histoire, uig- 
Bienttf d'an Mtfmolre aur lea Hallnclnationa au iibat de 
la FoUe, d'Obaervationa aar la Folie Benaoriale et d« Re- 
•herehes das Analogias d« la Ftdle at ds la Raison." 

G. M. O. 

The anecdote given by Fitxhopxths is founded 
upon the playful banter of Chamides and the 
reJMuder of Socrates as recorded in Xenophon's 
S^posium. W. C. 

Antbobus (S"* S. X. 27.) — ^Without pretending 
to throw light on the origin of this name, in 
answer to Er.BOTaxRDS, I beg to point out its 
curious resemblance to i»9p»*ts. u this be its 
origin, the founder of the family has intended, I 
presume, that his descendants should keep in 
view, and perpetually assert the dignity of man. 
That is a noble name — for " a men's a mon for a' 
that." John Wuxiams. 

Arno'a Court. 

Allow me to reply to the Query of Euudthbxus 
respecting the name of Antrobus by the following 
counter-Queries: I. What became of the Greek 
colony settled during the seventeenth century in 
Soho, which gave its name to Greek Street, and 
of which a memorial exists in the Greek inscrip- 
tion in the church now, or at all events recently, 
used by the French Protestants for Divine wor- 
ship in that neighbourhood? 2. Might not the 
name "Antrobus" have belonged to some mem- 

* Would Ithubiki. infonn me when the original of 
the letUr hs has rommnntnated is preservsd I 

ber of this colony, absorbed aftamrds into t&« 
general mass of Englishmen f It u true that 
Antrobus, which represents with quite snfficient 
fidelity the vernacular Greek accentuation and 
pronunciation of inep^wot, is an appellativei and 
not a proper name, but I cannot conceiva what 
other word, common or proper, can be firnnd ia 
any current language adequately explaining this 
curious name. 

Additions to Pope's Wobks (2*^ S. ix. 198.) 
— On a fly-leaf in the second volume of mj 
copy of the above work, the following MS. note 
occurs : — 

" This publication has been attributed to the late Geome 
Steevens, Kwj. ; but 1 heard from Mr. Isaae Raw! thatlt 
waa culled br Baldwin from the rommnnicatioilS af Mr. 
Steevens to toe St. Jamet'i Chronick, and pat forth with 
a Pt«face by William Coolu, Eaq." — Park in 8va ad. sf 
Warton'a Hitt. o/Eug. Poelrg, iii. AlB. noU L 

Another MS. note, but in a different hand, oo- 
curs in the first volume at the termination of the 
preface to the Essay on Human Lift^ which I 
may as well append to the above. It is as fal- 
lows : — 

" This Essay was really written by Thomas Catcsby, 
Lord Paget, son uf Henry first Earl of ITxbridga, Lord of 
the Bedchamber to George II. He died 1742." — V. 
Park's ed. of Tht Royii ami Ifoble Authon, iv. 178. 

The compilers of the Catalogue in the British 
Museum could scarcely have been aware of the 
nature of the work when they attributed (he 
editing of it to " W. Warburton ; " for it o(»taint 
poems not only highly injurious to the memory of 
his friend, but other articles which a peraon ia the 
position of Warburton would never have Tentnrad 
on publishing, even under the shadow an anony- 
moua edition affords. T. C. B. 

NoTBi. Weatheb Ihdicatob (^ 8. iz. 500^ 
501 .) — I beg to refer your correspondent S. Bai>« 
MOXD to the Life and Posthumous Writinga of W. 
Cowper, Esq., by William Hayley, Esq., toL Li 
Letter LXXV. pp. 252, 253. : — 

« To Lady Htduth. 

"Nov. 10, 1787. 
" Testsrday it thundered ; last night it lightsned, aad 
at three this morning I saw the sl^ as red as a dty la 
flames could have mule it. I have a leach in a bottia 
that foretells all these prodigies and convolsions of na- 
ture, &c "W. CL" 

I have kept n leech in my room for three years 
past, and have noticed the same results as men- 
tioned by the poet Cowper. Autbbo Hux. 

" Regno delle dde Siciue " (2"* S. x. 9.) — 
The following is an extract from Peter Heylin't 
Cogmographie, vol. i. p. 54., published ]65S^ whitdi 
you may perhaps think worthy of a comer in ** If . 
& Q. : ' — 

" It (the Kingdom of Naples) hath been called ioms- 
timea the Realm Pouille, but moat commonly the Raaba 
of 8icn on this side or the Phars, to dUhnooe ttftom 


t^ & JL Acq. i. '60.] 





tb« Kinfcdom of Ui« Ul« of Sicil on Ih* other ttiU of 
the Pbare or StreJt of llefMOi. Ttie r«aaon of vrbich 
tmproMr •pneltalign procewled from Rai;«r the fint king 
htrtof, ntio bcin^ alto Kari of Sicil, uid keeping there hU 
'txcd and ordinir7 midence, wli«n he obtained the 
hvour to be maile kin^ *, desired (in bonoar of tt>a place 
whert he man leaided) to bt created by the oame of 
King or both tlia Siciliea. And that indeed ii Lb« true 
and aDcirnl name of the KiDKcluro, the name or title of 
King of Naples oot coming into u»e till the French nere 
diapoMCMM of Stcil by the Ara^nlans t< "id nothing left 
timn bflt thia part of' the Kingdom, of which the Ctt/ of 
Kapit* was the Ragal Beat, called thererora in the follow- 
JM tjmai the Kiagikm of Naplei^ and by sums Italian 
miiero the Kiagdom onely." 


War« I*ri©ry. 

The Jvvom' Black Cap (a-" S. ix. 132. 4Ud. 
454, ; X. 37,) — Cuverin^; the Les'l 8««ni8 to be 
«nibl«oiatic uf two ihinga i first, of authority, antj, 
■• it would appear from 1 Cor. xi. 10,, especially 
o( delegated authority (thus In the Univeraitiea on 
public oocasiuiis theVice-Chancellor and Proctors 
alone wear their caps) ; and, secondly, tLu veiled 
bead bos always been a symbol of mouniiog for 
tbe dead, of which the present batband Is a mo- 
dern instance. This uiay perhaps explain why, 
u your correspondent S. O, states, two caps are 
tued by thejudges ; one, viz. with the fir«t inten' 
liun, the other with the lecoud. The latter, the 
black cap with which we are now concerned, is 
therefore fittln>|;ly a^isuiued as glvin<; additional 
solemnity to the awful sentence of death, and cx- 
presaioe the judge's sympathy for the unhnppy 
orimiuM upon whom it ia pronounced. W. W. U. 

Ltortoast PAiwTrao (2-* S, x. 47.) — If 
Sbmsx will describe the dress of the saint, I think 
h probable that I may be able to point out hb 
Wentiiy. But it is always important in these in- 
qoiriea to know the exact costume of the person- 
ajfc who ia tbe object of inquiry. F. C. U. 

Eiro (2«« S. viii. 432. «22. ; ix. 493. ; x. 67.) — 
In many instances the word is probiibly derived 
from tbe Anglo-Saxon m/r, the dat. pi. of ea, 
water; and ia appropriated to localities which are 
or have been low, oiarahy, and liable to be flooded 
ftfter heavy rains. This is the character of several 
Ends with which I am acquainted, and which 
have no apparent connexion with termination or 
boundary of any kind. In this district (and query 
elsewhere P) the word is comnionlj pronounced 
ei* or tend. The Rev. ^V. Monkhouse derives 
Cotton End in Bedfordshire from Cufcr-en-ean := a 
dwelling in the waters. (Cf, Etymolog\ei of Btd- 

• * A.». 1126. Roger Eari of Sicil Created bv Pop* Ana- 
•l«tu the 3nd King of both tbe Siuiliea at the Town of 
BenavMt : which city, in requital of so great a favour, 
be realored again unto the Church from which it had 
been takan (after the Gnt Donation of it) by tbe Ger- 
man Empapon." — Otmagrapkit, Tol, I, p, 64. 

t At tki time of the Skiliaa Vespwrs, aj>. liSl. 

forrUkir* by tbe Rev. W. Monkhouse, p. Id., Bed- 
ford, 1857, Uvo., printed for the Bedfurd&hire 
Arobiteoturol and Ardueologioal Society.) 

Jo»£pa Ki«, 

Bdbkbt*s Lira or Bwhop Bbdell (2°* S. vit. 
850,; Viii. 301.; X. 61.) — The fi.llowinK few 
Notes are from a copy of Burnet's Lt/e cf Bithop 
Bedell, iiow in my possession, and are in the hand- 
writtnff of its former owner, William Falliaer, 
Archbishop of Cashcl from 1696 to 1726. On the 
fly-leaf: — 

" \V. Pallijier. A.C. Thia Life writ by D. Bomrt not 
without aome groaa inlatakaa." 

Preface: b. vaiao. [On Bishop Buntat'i itatemaat that 
Joornals of tbe Bishop's Life and his worka wars Uiat in 
the time of the Irish Kobellloo.] " I have seen a writtca 
account of his life, and a large work of his ag. Papiita, 
so that wbat'a here said is not true." 

Lifa, p. ID. [Where it ia aaid that Ant. da Doainla 
printed ten books De Rrp. Eccl.'] " lie iirinted but sir 
at London, and two of the ten were never primal," 

P. 86, [Where it ia said that A|>p. Uaher was not made 
for tbe governing part or his function.] " Au untrue 
refiection. See prei. to U»har'a I^ife, p. B, ; Life, p. 27. 
etc. Lot. 163," 

P. !SS. [Wlierc It ia said that Bedel's large treatlie Id 
answer to the two quaationa WTurt umu ow rth^im btfim 
Littker, and What hrcam* of imr mctttort that died im 
Popery, was swallowed up in Iha KaballioD.] " 'Tia ua- 
true; a copy of it ia at present in my custotly, and 
another I lent to Arch b. Sancrott, with 'a lar^e written 
account of B. Bedel's IHb." 

P. 448. In " Copies of certain letters, taclied on to the 
Life," the text omiu the word*, " But ytt far ftar, Stc." 
which Baker gives. Arcbbiabop Palliser inserta Ibeie 
words in the margin, prefaced by this remark : " Sea H. 
of Pass. Obed. p. 76. what rou may think of O. Burnet 
ooncaming thia marginal note." 

JoHir JxBB. 

Feterstow Bactory, Hoes. 

Error ih Emqusb BrsLs (2"* 8, x. 66.) — 
W. L. A. will find that not only in the first edi- 
tions of the present authorised version does the 
error " sometime* " for " sometime " (Epb. ii. 13.) 
occur, but in all the following repritita luid re- 
visions to the beautiful edition in small 4to. at 
Cambridge, by John Hayea^ 1673, in which it is 
correct. But in subsequent editions even in tb« 
Oxford Blayney, 1769, the error is continued. 
It is singular that in the elegant royal folio at 
CJunbridge, by John Hayes, in 1674, the error is 
not corrected. An account of the revisions of 
Our authorised version is much wanted. Tbey 
commenced early afler its publication, were at- 
tempted at Cambridge by Buck and Daniel, 1 629, 
and Scattergood by Hayes, 1683, Lloyd, Blay- 
ney, Sec. By whose authority or sanction they 
were made is not known. Grorob Orros. 

The RoixiAD (2-^ S. ix. 342. 452.)— I am alad 
that your correspondeuts are proposing to clear 
up some of the obscurities of The JioUiad and the 
Anti'Jacobin. I hope they will not stop there. 




The blnnks in the Satires of the Regency are un- 
intelligible to young readers, but may be filled up 
by living men who appreciated their wit while 
fre«h. Looking over The B-adicttl State Papers 
(Wright, 1820), I found allusions which I dimly 
remember, though I rend them when they first 
appeared, I think, in the Guardian. I will make 
Borae notes upon them, and there are some in ihe 
margin of my copy, chiefly pointing out imita- 
tions. One of these I shall be glad to have ex- 
plained. In the Alemorial of the Arch-Flamen 

P 9 (who was he ?) to his majesty John 

Preston, he says : — 

" At 'do time did any cmnlumants accme to us from 
the Tiiitorft of tlia Temple : all that they ever left behind 
them wiw fliih and vermin."* 

In the margin is written : " Imit. : Davon wird 
dir dcnn doch auch das was dir gebiihrt." 

What is the German taken from ? M. (1 .) 

Cat Ain> Fiddlb (2»* S, x. 36.) — There has 
been the sign of the Cat and Fiddle in the parish 
oi Farringwn, Devon, for n long series of years, 
which even the Catholics do not dream of being 
connected in any way with the Stiiiil Catherine 
Fidele, but know it to be the faithful cat of a 
former ■very ancient couple, who were occupants 
of the little wayside inn on the road to Sid- 
mouth from Exeter, and was called, and is still, 
La Chat Fidele, the old landlord knowing French. 

W. CoLtmrs. 

A CoLLHCTioXEB (2"* S. X. 28.) — A person 
permanently Sn receipt of parochial relief. Many 
legacies have been left to " the poor not taking 
collection." John Apsalon may have resided ana 
died at Great Hampden, although during his life 
chargeable to the parish of Uitcbendeo. 



These insects were 
Abp. Laud says in 

BtiGB (2"^ S. X. 38.) — 
known in England in 1625. 
hii Diary : — 

" Ea nocte redii, gublto claadiu, nescio quo bumore in 
cms iinigtrum delapso. Aat, at existimavit R An., ex 
morsu Gmicvm. Convalul iiiLra biduum." 

The translation of 1695 makes it " buggs " " al 
chinches," p. 21. JoRn S. Bimn. 


Thb Liow and Umicobn (a'"" S. ix. 501.)— The 
conjunction of the lion and unicorn appears to 
have been derived from the Egyptians ; the lion 
representing strength and courage, whilo the uni- 
corn (not the unieom of Scripture, which was the 
rhinoceros, but the unicorn of modern heraldry) 
elegance and agilitj-. Thus in Sharpe's HiMtory of 

" • NoU .by his Majesty. Why not take your tithes 

Egypt we find (see woodcut, vol. ii, p. 27.) the] 
king and queen playing at chess or araughts 
the form of a lion playing with a unicorn 
horned ass, which corresponds so exactly in i 
gracefulness of proportions that there is no qu 
tion as to its being the ancestor of the mod( 
unicorn. Thus we have not only the origin bul 
the explanation of the symbol. Some other con 
tributor mav be able to trace the channels througl 
which this Egyptian hieroglyphic was introducci 
into Europe. Could the "vestment powdered' 
with lions and unicorns" belonging to Ely CatliD* 
drnl have been broujiht from the East ? 

The fact of the lion and unicorn being aiio- 
ciated as the supporters of the English arnu is 
merely a coincidence, owing to the union of the 
English and Scotish arms at the accession of 
James L to the throne of Great Br!l4*in, thi 
unicorn having previously been the supporter 
the Scotish as the lion was of the shield 
W. DoCGLAS Hamtltom. 

PADDLKWHeELS (2"" S. X. 47.) — Admit as 
reply what I learnt in Cornwall jus^ now while 
excursionising there : — 

"A young man of Tmro, C. Warrick, used ia 1780 to 
paddle down the River (Fal) to Falmouth ia a canoe 
worked by a wheel with a double crank, and could dis- 
tance every boat. This was tbe principle of the paddle- 
wheel, and yet no one thought of applying tbe inveation 
to larger vessels." 

I use the words of Mackenzie Walcot, M.A., 
and respectfully advise Delta to confirm the 
statement by personal inquiry, as I have been 
doing, in that wondrous region of rocks and roren 
and cleverly intrepid navigators. Cpasting on 
from Truro and Falmouth towards Scilly, tba 
tourist arrives at Mousehole (near PenEttnce)v 
noted amongst other marvels for the seven fisher* 
men who sailed thence in a smack, not forty feet 
long, to Australia, calling at the Cape, and making 
the Antipodes quite safe and sound in 120 days. 

S. C. Fbuvav. 

MabIa oe MarIa (S"* S. ix. 122. 31 1. 41 1.) — 
Not seeing your periodical more regularly than is 
compatible with the supposed equity of a book- 
club circulation, I may be offering a solutio 
which has been already given of the change i 
pronunciation of the Blessed Virgin's name, whirl 
seems to have taken place among the Latins nboui 
the beginning of the fifth century. But it ooourt' 
to me as one obvious way of explaining it lb: 
BO soon as Christian poets of the Latin Churcl 
began to celebrate her mysterious praises in lam^ 
bic or Trochaic or other Lyric verse, it became > 
matter of exigency to lengthen the penultimate 
syllable. Whether the change was quite a.s com' 
plete as your correspondent A. A. suppose^ ort 
whether, for a certain time, it rcroainea opiionnl 
to use either quantity in heroic and elegiac ranct 
(Admitting, as they do, equally of either quan 










titj}, I Mm sot sttificiently versed in early Chris- 
tian poetry to caj. B^t teeing that Frudentiua, 
Trho IS one of A. A.'s authorities for the tribravh 
use, has written hymns in Iambic as well as in 
heroic and elegiac measure (see Cardinal Thoma- 
si us' Hymnarium)^ the latter of the two nlterna- 
tives appears the more probable. Joun Jambs. 
Aviogton, Uungerford, Berks. 

Thk Prices or Llahfpwtst (^'^ S. ix. 503.) — 
Were a very ancient family in Monmouthsbire, 
hut are sup)po»ed to be ultt;rly extinct in the mate 
line. The fast known representative of the name 
and family was Thomas Price, described in 1773 
aa of CoDey Court, Gray's lun, London ; and 
from circumstances thought to have been then 
about sixty years of age, and unmarried. Pedi- 
frreet of the family may be found in the Visitation 
of the county in the College of Arms, in the Harl. 
MS. No. 2201., anil Additional US. 0865., io the 
British Museum, and in the prirnlc collection of 
the writer. T. W. 

Battucomde Famu-t (2"* S. ix. 45.) — lu 
answer to Mr. Ellis's Queries, it is not impro> 
bable that AVilliaru Buttiscombe of Chancery Lane, 
&c^ was a member uf u branch of the Uattis- 
combea of Verse, seated at Clcvc lu the parish of 
Tatton and county of Somerset ; a family which, 
I presume, became extinct on (he death (.i. p.) of 
the late &fr. Baiiiscombe of Cleve about forty 
years since. Their arms (gules, a chevron be- 
tween three bats, sable) appear on a mural tablet 
in Y'atton church, which records several of thia 
family, among them : — 

Rkbacd Bittiw-ombe. ^eiit., died 1740. 
Clirlatopher Batiiscnmbq, ^eiH., died 1798, 
John UalUscombe, of Iwundon, genL^ died 1793. 

Elizabeth, daughter of the last-named' gentle- 
man, married the Rev. Carrington Garrick, vicar 
of Hendon in Middlesex, nephew of the cele- 
brated David Garrick; she died in 1808, aged 
fifty. It is more than likely that the said Mr. 
William Battiscombe of Chancery Lane, &c. was 
a brother of Mrs. Carrington Garrick. Richard 
Battiscomb, gent., appears to have been the father 
of Christopher and John, and a younger son of the 
Verse family. S. H. 

AcHBSON Family (2"^ S. ix. 344.) — The father 
of Sir Archibald Acheson, of Glencairny, in Irc- 
Lind, Baronet of Scotland and Lord uf Session, 
and Secretary of State in that kiugdom, was Pa- 
trick Auhesun, the younger son of a proliiic 
family of (he name settled at Salt Preston, or 
Ptestonpans, in East Lothian, one branch of which 
possessed the esfate of Gosford in that county 
for about sixty-five years. When Sir Archibald's 
successor, the 6tb Baronet, was rnised to the Irish 
peerage, he took the title of Goaford in memory 
of that connexion, though the Scottish estate had 

been parted with a century and a half before, and 
had never been in the possession of his lineal pro- 
genitors. Various members of the family, lluur- 
iiihing in the sixteenth century, were burgesses of 
Edinburgh and Haddington. Three of these held 
the office of Master Cuinzieor, or Master of the 
Mint, and one married a sister of Hcriot of Tra- 
brown, a near relative of the celebrated George 
Ucriot. Although Sir Archibald acquired lands 
in Ireland in 1611, he did not leave Scotland, in 
which he continued to dbcharge high oiBuial 
posts ; but he occasionally visited his estates in 
that island, and died there in 1634. From the 
service of his son. Sir Patrick, as heir to him, 
it appears that he was possessed of a tenement in 
the Canongate of Edinburgh, and of Saltpuna and 
other subjects in Prestonpans and the neighbour- 
hood. After this the connexion with Scotland of 
this line of the Achesons terminated, but various 
collateral families of the name continued to exist 
in Mid and East Lothlaus. R. R. 


Tlu Rtprtttor of Over Much Btaming of the Clergy. 
Bjf Reginald Pccock, D.O., tometime Ixtrd Bithop of Chi- 
chtttr. £<fi(«j£y Churchill BabinRtoa, B.D., Fellow of 
St. John't CoUegt, Cambridge. Publitked under tht Dhte- 
turn of tilt Matter of the RolU. 2 Vols. 8vo. (Longmao.) 

The important services renderad ind rendering to bis- 
torical lilerattira by the Muter of the Rolls are cumula 
live. Almost mootb by luonth tbroughoat tbe vcaraornei 
work or other is sent forth under his auspices which adds 
vnlue to our litemture, and deepens and gtrcnf^lhenx the 
obligaLiiiQ which llnglishmen owe bim for his enlightened 
exerliona. Lifferiai; from bim as we hare done on some 
previous occasions and subjects, we have all the greater 
[ileasure in now calling atteution to ■ work in the serieit 
publishing under his direction about which there can b« 
no diS^rence of opinion. Re^nald Pecock was no ordi- 
nary man. Lewis's Life of bim, despite of Its obvious de- 
fects, has long made studeats of our early tcclesiutical 
history desire to know more both of the author and of 
bis writings. That want is now lappUed, Of the part 
played bv him in tbe controversies which he lived to 
witness, &lr. Babingtoo, in the valuable Introduction to 
tbe preaent work, speaks with Rreat moderation ; end few 
readers of Tht Itq>rtt»>r of Ooer Much Btaming of the 
Clergy but will agree with Mr. Babington, that it is a 
tnaalcrly performance, and " preserves the best ari^u- 
mentj of tbe Lollards against existing practices which 
Pecock woa able to find, together with such answers a* 
a very acute opponent was able to give," while as few 
will dissent from the Editor's opinion, *' that both Pecock 
and his opponents contributed very materially to the 
Keformation which took place in the following century, 
whatever abatements they may make from tbe soundness 
of the views advocated by either, or whatever opinions 
they may entertain of the merits of tlie Reformation 
itoelf." Pecock, ss shown by his editor, would indeed have 
been remarkable in any age, and was in his own sge most 
remarkable ; and the publication of bis great work, under 
tbe editorship of one so well qualified for the task as Mr. 
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TAe Exitlenet of the Deity, enidenced by Power and 
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to prove thai the stnirtnre of inorganic matter evidencei 
the existence of a penonal Creator. 

Rovtledgtii Illuttrafd Natural Hittnry. By the Rev. 
J. G. Wood, M.A., &c. ParU XVIL aud XTIIL (Bout- 
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So. 241.— CONTESTS. 

— An Ell)»bethan Msnriajro. 101 — JacoWte Honours, 
SkUBolLlOS — Leigh Huiu'i Father, IM— Bishop 
!*■ Mouicrlpts. 1V4>. 

Vans -. — Olil EnirUBh Jftlitarrtrnlform— Coroii»' 
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4 H«toai — Mn. Sberwood'a A.uU>biograjiih; : Butta* 
M — Owpl> Olondowcr, lOS. 

%8: — HmU'b, 107— Mre. Thoroas and the DiUce of 

_■ — \i^n-. ;.. i'<,.>iu_ Meanlnir of " End" as uaed 
• I Eypn r. BiittoiH — Confo*- 
110 "dp Berwick — Ix'iiichton 
I ""T*"* In W«^ton Oittrch, 

- K . — Colchralor — Ward 
■ui»rii v" — Keiitl!ih Miller — 
itiU, -....-.-- -Ipli, 107. 

I WITH A?iB\rT I : on Sir Thomaa Segr- 

-"Hmmn," ic. .— .i Abp. Utud —" Nancy 

n " — " Cnavuidra ' — i'iie Fool at A pliaca —William 
I. lift 

iSi — " Kiiiir's PrrrojniUTe in Impositions, 111 — 
«tiOD of Bauin — B 'Irjii and Hnniniinid Kwuiliei — 
In of Studlry— JuUaiia Odor — "Aunt Sally" — E»- 
Afflictioiw — Tlio Father Rector »t Bun-ll:* — Civic 
ng — ExoonimuniaiMlaa linoe the Refonnatlnn — 
■ptaBD SiKit — Church Towert — Church Chancels 
^■Ni — Colli llartMur— Lodxe Famity— Linetton 
HE- Portir&l Prriodioala — Ix)ng(;>-ity of Clerira] 
ilfbt* — Diatciaron — Witton — Socrates — The 
t, W. Barnard — Countrr Tavum Siciu — Baptiimal 


H fiatti. 


ti^ the Hcyrifke papers (preserved nt Beau- 
»n Leicestuishire Irom the tiuie of Sir 
n Heyricke, ipweller to King James I., and 
ards one of his Tellers of the Exchequer,) 
found the following poetical fragment. It 
of a nictricxil epistle, written in the reign 
labcth, upon tlie model of the pisalms of 
old and Hopkins ; nnd it describes the fes- 
of a murriiigc, which was oelcbTsted not 
ith gorgeous raiment of Jilks ami velvets, 
Bins of glistering gold, and with well-londed 
of venison and roai>t, spread upon the green 
but nlsu, AS was then customary, etUivcued 
DUque, for which the apparel is stated to 
een " brought down ft-om the Queen : " by 
I coryecturu is meant that the costumes 
leriveu from the stores of the royal ward- 
lUeh were preserved for festive purposes, 
^■ionally h'nt out hy the favour of her 
^5r her officers, Possibly the children of 
»pel rojrsl. who were occasionally dramatic 
[uers, were permitted to engage in these 
>oDJiilmoi>(|Ui:si, of which it will be remem-. 
there iaon example repretented in the great 
cai picture of the Union familT, engraved 

The upper part of the verses has beeti torn 
away, and they now begin thus : — 

" Yet sludye for to pUaw your mlitd« 

with theae 1 would fall" fayne. 
Youre pa rentes both, God bee thankodt 

in v«rtua which excl, 
Youre sisters all', and Tobias, 

are in good health, and wel. 
The serrsnles also Of the boose 

whom 1 ne«de not to name. 
Doe wioh daylye (or youre good bellli, 

aud I doe wish the same. 
The chefcst cause wbye unto you 

nt this lyine I doe write 
Is |>artlyu for to lell' some nusc 

whei'of I will' andite. 
My mind I fnuoot half exptcse, 

uor it fullyo declare, 
or the great day. and mariage 

of uiaistor Clement Chare. 
Such Londiners there did com downe • 

so bravely to behold, 
In silkea and velvets trimlye drest *, 

and chaynes of (;ly»ti>ring gold. 
There weare such maskes of gnllants gay 

the like was never st;ene. 
All' th'aparair which thev did weare 

was brought downe ^om tho Quecne. 
Tlie bride, and the hridesgrome also, 

for tbre or foare long dayes, 
Wear clothd, a thing most exelent, 

in changeable arayea. 

" Tf A«. The 

Tbeae irords are at the foot of the tlrst page, 
but the formei Reems to be misplaced, for the same 
subject appears to be contiiiued on the verso of tho 
fragment : — 

"Tfaer was a banquet provided 
ofveneson, ami of rost. 
Tber was such bowling, and such sport, 

the lik WAS never seene. 
The table, with the formes, did stand 

oppon the graase greene. 
The meat was all' prepard at homei 

and roadye drest also. 
And wei- like lusty serving men 

throwgb out the atreates did goc, 
With napluOB [tied] about our D»;kea 

most comly for to sco. 
All' this is truo that I hare spoke 

and nuo lye, beleve tnee. 
Althoutjh 1 lack som eioquens 

wberwith to please your mind 
Yet in gocxl part tak these, I pray, 

til better you doe tlud. 
Thus fare you wel, God geve us grace 

to walk both night sud day 
In perfect love of Jesus Christ, 

to whom I dsylye pray. 
In all' goo<lnc4 to prosper you 

and send ynu gixxl socceta*, 
Tyl yoa have runn, and wiiu the golst 
of cverlaslingnesie. 

Will'm EjTiclce. 
Gwiliam Robinson. 
George nrooke." 

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or these three names that of Gwiliam Robinson 
is in the same hand ns the verses, and he there- 
ion', may be regarded as the poet. The signatures 
of William Eyrickc and Georne Brooke, placed 
above and below, were subsequently added. 

I have met with no other notice of Robinson. 
His companion George Brooko was the husband 
of Cliristian, one of the daughters of John £y- 
ricke of Leicester, and Mary Bond (see the pe- 
digree in the Hixtory of Leiceiiteriihire, voi. ii. p. 
615.) ; and \>'^illi!«m Eyrickc I believe to have 
been Christian's brother, afterwards Sir William 
Heyrick, mentioned at the beginning of this Note. 
He was at this time a youth, and had not yet gone 
to seek his fortune in the metropolis. He subse- 
(juently wrote his name both Hericke and Hey- 

The opiatolary ballad was adilresscd I imagine 
to the eldest son of Robert Heyrick of Leicciter, 
who is left nameless in the pedigren. He a 
brother Tobia?, afterwards rector of Houghton in 
Leicester.«hire, and the progenitor of the family 
of which the late town-clerk of Leicester was the 
last male heir. They had nine sisters, all married, 
who arc the "sisters allu" mentioned in the versi*s. 

If I am right in this view of the parties, the 
marriage must have taken place at Leicester, where 
Robert Heyrinkwas an alderman, and in 1588 M.P. 
for town ; though I should not have imagined that 
the "brave Londoners" or the queen's " apparel " 
would have travelled so far on such an occasion. 

or the "bride's grorae" himself, mnister Cle- 
ment Cliiirc, I know nothing ; but as the name is 
:in uiicouimoit one, it Is possiVile he may be dis- 
covered, ami the oo^iuiiunioution of anv references 
to the haliitation of the family would oblige me. 

In further illustration of the custom of mas- 
querading at private marriages, I copy the follow- 
ing ad<lres3 : — 

" KiKlit WorsliipfiiU, Cvrtaine woll-willers of Tourf, 
undersL-indinge tliat uppnn twesdav next yo' dnughter's 
nuptiall rytra slialbo !)nlt>mni8r<l, have thoiif;ht good 
Iiparliy to i^eve vow notice lliat wee meane with the rest 
to boare a part in such mearth as fitt;* the occation pre- 
sent, whenrin whec wish not to be trublcsome, but rather 
wiiih to puss the time in yo' house with such inaskinjre 
delyghtes an Mtalbo to the lilcinf;e of yo' self and the 
Kooii compavnyc with vow, wich, after an ower or ij spent 
that wave, when meane to dcparte to ^cay from whence 
wtirc came, and to taike tlic benyfite of a happ(ie) 
windc: in wicli o^ journey whee will wish vow and yo's 
all health (and) happincs." 

The iiuistjuers <ui this (iccnsion were evi«lently 
in till- cii>tiiiiie 1)1" .-sailors, wlm after their perform- 
ance wi>re to "depart lo »oa, from wlii-ucc wecanic." 

This addn-ss is written in Sir William Iley- 
ricke's own hand, and is accompanied by no inti- 
mation of its date. It was probably addressed to 
some "Right Worshipfull" knight, and may be a 
copy of a speech made to Sir William himself 
yyben one of his daughters was married. 

Jo/ijf GouQH Nichols. 


An accurate list of the titles conferred on tbdr 
adherents by the Royal Stnarts subsequent to 
the revolution of 1688, would be very cnnona and 
interesting; and although it might comnronise 
the ancestors of many existing loyal families, it 
could scarcely give offence at this distance of 
time. In the hope of assistance from others, I 
now send the names and titles of those indiriduals 
in so far as they have come to my knowledge : — 

Petragt ofEnj^amd. 

1688-9. Duke of Powis and Marquis of VontKomtiT, 

William Herbert, Marqais and Earl ofFknrk 

Died, 1696. 
Duke of Albemarle, Henry Fittjanisib Graad 

Prior, natnral son of Jaines II. by Afabslh 

1688-9. Baron Etk*. Richard Graham, Viacowit Fm- 

ton in Scotland, and Baronet of *^f* 

Convicted of treason. 1690. Died 169S. 
1689. Baron CIcworth, John Drummond, Earl of lU- 

fort, K.T. (DakeofMelfort,169S.) IMI,m4. 

Peerage of SeoHand. 

1692. Duke of Melfort, Marquis of Fortla, Eari flf Ut 
and Burntisland, Viscount of BioearlM^ iMd 
Castlemainn ind Galston, John D f uiiiaA 
Earl of Melfort, K.T. AtUintad, 1G95. INsl, 

169.5. Duke of Perth, Marquis of Dmmmoa^ Isiltf 
Stobhall. Viscount of Carsill, Lofd CoMni( 
Jamex, 4th Earl of Perth, K.T. DiwI, I71t 

1715. Duke of Mar, John Erxkine, llth Eari of Ifarsf 
the Erskine line, K.T. Attainted, 17U. DH 

1713. Duke of Eraser, Simon Eraser, 12tli Lord Lent 
Executed, 1747. 

17ft7. Duchess of Albany, Charlotte, natural daariiMr 
of Charles Kdward liy Clementina Marta Wil- 
kiiishaiv. Died, 1789. 

169-. Marquis of Seaforth, Kenneth Maekands^ ^A 
Karl of Scafortb, K.T. Died, 170L 

1725. Earl of Inverness, John Hay, son oC ThaaMil 
6th Earl of KinnouU. Attainted, 1715. DM, 
Earl of Nairn. John Murray Nairn (Srd Lorf 

Xairn.) Attainted, 1746. Died. 1770. 
Earl of Linmore. (He was principal Secretaij to 

the Chevalier in 1748.) 
Earl of Dunbar. James Mnirav, son of Darid, 
5th Viscount of Stormont, and brother of Wil- 
liam, Earl of Manstield, L. G. J. of Eagiaai 
Died, 1770. 
F.arl of Alfoni, John Grnme. Died, 177S. 



Earl of Inverness, Alexander Mnrrar, 4111 Ma of 

Alexander, 4th Lord Elibank. Died, 1777. 
Countess of Alberstroff, Clementina Maria Walk- 

inshaw. Died, 1802. 
Lonl Carlyll, John Carlyll. 

I^nl Setnjiill, Sem'pill. 

Lord Olipiiant (iiew patent with tha old piece- 

dency of the Lords Oliphant), Laurence (W* 

phant of Gask. Attainted, 1745. 

* He claimed a seat in the Honsa of Paan^ 11 Ner. 
1689; on the gronnd that the patent had pasaad tka shIs 
before the vote of abdication ; bnt the Booaa ilatilsiid K 
null and void. The patent was dated at St. GwaabiL 


-l-SiX. Atno. «.*W,J 



Pterngr cf IrtUfirl. 

1689. l)uka and Manjuia of Tyrconiiel, Richard Talbot, 

E«rl of Tvrc.viiiifl. Die^ IC&I. 
1G90. E<irl, Patrick Sarsftclil. Died, 1693. 
1089. Viacount Kemiiare and Lonl Cnstlenisse, Va1en> 

tine Urownc, ancestor of tlio Karl of Kenraare. 

Died, 1G»4. 
I68y. Vjjcount Mount Caabel, — *■ Maccarthy. 

lt>99. Viacount Mount L«iaal«r, CUeevers. 

1»>89. Bar«n Fitton of Gawaworth, Alexander Filton, 

Lord ChanceJIor of Ireland. 
1689. Barou Nugent of Riverstoo, Thomas Nugent, 

•on of Richard. l€th Lord Delvin, Lord C. J. 

of King's Reach, Ireland. Diod, 1715. 
1689. B^ron de Burf^h of Bophin, Juhn Bourke, too of 

William, 7lh Earl of Clanricanlc, lAerwartU 

9(h £arl &rClinricard«. Died, 1722. 

Id regtird to the Irish creations it may be ob- 
served that tbey Trere in a different situation 
from the English and Scottish, as they were con- 
ferre<i by James II. while dr facto King of Ireland, 
and before there bad been uny declaratioti by the 
Irish Parliament or people that he hnd forfeited 
his right to the sovereignty of that kingdom. The 
patent! passed the seab, and those ennobled sat in 
the parliament which met 7th May, 165t9. It is 
true they were subsequently declared nul! and 
void, along with the other acta of thot unfortunate 
monarch and hia parliament. In the case of the 
other kingdoms, the warrants ex necettitate never 
poaaed the seals, ond were therefore incomplete ; 
although, had the Stuarts been restored, they 
might probably have been rendere<l valid as to 
precedency, in the same way that Charles II. on 
his restoration confirmed and validated several 
^onours granted by his father and himself during 
^pc civil troubles, Louis XIV. had the courtesy 
^0 recognise the titles conferred by James IL, 
and in consequence the titular Dukes of Melfort, 
—Perth, &C-, enjoyed the privileges attached to the 
HQcal rank at tlie Court of France; but they 
^pvre never enrolled among the Dukes of that 
Kingdom, or Considered otherwise than as foreign 

Among the Baronets created were the fol- 
lowing : — 

John Grsrae (afterwards Earl of Alford). 
1766. Juha Hay (of ReaUlIng). Attaiatcd, 174<>. 

John Luoisden. 
1784. John Roy Stewart. Attainted, 1746. 

Many persons attached to the Court of the 
jled Stuarts were termed " Sir," which might 
iply to knights as well as baronets. Among 
leae were : — 

Sir Thomas Sheridan, 
Sir Juhn Sullivan. 
Sir Thomas Geraldina. 
Sir John Ifacdonald. 
Sir John Constable. 

I obienre that G. W. M. (2°* S, ix. 364.) gives 
be names of seven knights out of thirteen said to 
I've been made by Charles Edward in 1745-6. 
71tether the young Chevalier exercised that right 

as Regent, I know not' ; but there seems to be a 
mistake iis to several of the persons eniiuierated. 
Thus, "Sir Hector Maclean" was probably the 
jtli Baronet of Morvaren, who was apprehended 
on auspieion and carried to London at the cum* 
mencemeiit of the risini; ; " Sir Wm Gordon," 
the 3nl Baronet of Park, who viaB attainted for 
h)8 accession to the rebellion in 1745 ; " Sir Duvid 
Iklurray," the 4th Baronet of Stanhope, who was 
attainted and implicated in both the rebelliuob of 
1715 and 1745, nephew of the infamous John 
Murray of Broughton; and "Sir Wm. Duubar," the 
3rd Baronet of t>urn, who was concerned in the 
lust occasion, and excepted from mercy in the Act 
of Indemnity, 1747. R. R. 


This age of progress may expect to be agreeably 
surprised ere long by a great improvement, in the 
form of an effective substitute for the art of 
throwing stones, as at present practised in our 
streets. The new engine, for such it is, is called 
a catapult, sends a stone as straight as a bullet, 
and will knock off the head of a fowl, knock out 
your eye, break the leg of a dog, or 5ma.-ih plate 
glass. Two cases have lately come before our 
metropolitan police courts. The Times of Tues- 
day, July 24th, records a case at Marlborough 
Street, where a boy was convicted of delibe< 
rately sending a stone, by means of a catapult, 
through the window of a private dwelling-house, 
was fined Is., and released with a caution not to 
do so again. In my own neighbourhood our at- 
tention has been pointedly called to a great in- 
crease of window-breaking within the lost two 
mouths ; the great window of our church has 
been extensively holed, and two costly panes of 
plate-glass have been perforated in an adjoining 
manufactory. At lengtli, an advertisement offer- 
ing 2/. reward having proved ineffectual, a watch 
was kept, two lads were seen in the act of prac- 
tising on a window, two panes were simultaneously- 
broken, and one of the offenders was taken. He 
proved to be a youth of fifteen, "respectably con- 
nected," and strenuously protested that he was 
"only shooting at sparrows on the roof;" but on 
July 24th he wns had up by summons to Worship 
Street, where he got off by his fatber's paying 5», 
damages and 2*. costs. In consequence, no doubt, 
of the pre-ssure of more important business on that 
occasion, the case was not very minutely gone 
into, the catapult was not exhibited in court, nnd 

• Lord Milton, in a k-Hcr to the Marquis of Tweoddale, 
6tU Sept. 1745, «sy« that Mercer of Alrtie was knighted 
for acting the chief part ia prnclalmini; the Pretender at 
Perth. Thia was the Hon. Robert Nairn Mi-rcer, who 
was kille<l at CuUoden, and from whom deaceniU Itaronet* 
Nairn and Keith, wife of Count FlahauU. 1 have never 
met with snv notice of him as " Sw" B^uVictV. 



[8^ & X. Aua 11. li 

no notice appeared in the police report of next 
morning's Timet. 

The catapult consists of a handle with two 
prongs, to the looped extremities of which are 
attached the two ends of an india-rubber spring 
in the form of a sling, the sling having nt its base 
a pocket for the insertion of a stone. In making 
practice, the left hand grasps the handle and holds 
It upright, while the right iiand holds the pocket 
and stone, pulls the india-rubber to its full stretch, 
lets go, and discharges the stone with such amos- 
ing results as may be suiliuientlj gathered from 
what has been stated above. 

It is reported on gocHl authority that a man has 
been killed by one of these ingenious instruments 
at Liverpool, where they are called " catspells " 
(catspel, <^u. a corruption of catapult f) 

The object of the present communication is a 
fourfold Query : — 

1. Is the sole of such articles lawful trade ? 

2. Is there any published account of the re- 
ported casualty at Liverpool P 

8. Supposing the report correct, what (if any) 
steps have been taken in consequence by the 
Liverpool authorities ? 

4. The Koman and mediicval catapultsa evi- 
dently had various forms. Was there any one of 
them which can be viewed as the prototype of the 
instrument now, under the name of catapult, com- 
ing into use in our streets ? 

The modern catapult, be it observed, is not to 
be confounded with the more common *' bird- 
shooter." This also is clastic, but single, not 
double, nnd loaded at the end. It labours under 
the disadvantage of not being available, like the 
catapult, for glass-breaking. No doubt it would 
make a very dean hole ; but when used it must 
be wholly let ^o; and when shot through a gentle- 
man's sash-window into his parlour it would of 
course be irrecoverable, the true tactics in such a 
case being to cut, not to knock and ask for it. 
The catapult, on the contrary, discharges its shot, 
and remains in hand for fresh achievements. 

There are some grounds for a conjecture that 
in mediaeval times the youth of Avignon hod a 
plaything of a not very different character, whe- 
ther it threw stones or arrows. Tiie law was, 
" Qui contra columbarium projeccrit ictitm cala- 
pidtte, duos ictus funis sustinciit." {Stat. Avenion. 
cited by Cui'pcnt.) Hence it would appear tliat, 
iu the judgment of the "Dark Ages,' the best 
remedy for the unlawful use of the c.itapult was 
a rope s end. Has the hint no significance now P 
The modern practice of stone-shooting, should it 
become loo frequent in our streets, is not likely to 
be repressed by the occasional infliction of a 1>. or 
even a 5s. fine. Vedette. 

The following extracts from Christopher Mar- 
shall's Diari/ (vol. i.) refer to the poet's father, t 
Philadelphia lawyer, who sided with the mother r 
country m the American revolution. To explain i 
the first entry the following note is given od i 
p. 43. : — 

" On the 2~th of September, 1774, tha CongKu sniBi- i 
mously resolved that n-otn and after the First of Dereo- ! 
ber, 1774, there should be no importations ttom Gnat 
Britain or Ireland of any goods, wares, or meichandiM; 
and that ther should not be used or purdhassd if im- 
ported ader tliat day." 

" 1775, Anp^st 19th. Complaint was mads by G. 
Schlosiiar of his having stopped a piece of Unen ofa p«d- 
ler, who thereupon applied to risaacl Hunt, the IswjMi 
who issued out a Bummooi ogamst him for ths asU piM; 
upon which a motiou was made to send fbr ths isid 
HuDt, who, after first notice, refused, npoa which a list 
from the chairman brought him. He ownad tha Mm tf 
it, but insisted it was according to the mis of his pnw- . 
sion, and cuuld see no injary his hsd done. A good tal 
was said to him upon the impmdencs of such p mcss il h i n 
upon which he requested time to consult bis elisBt^ m 
then he would give the Committee his snswar whste 
he would proceed in canying oa ths salt eoiut Q. 
Schloster, or withdraw and diseontinua the Man st ihi 
next meeting, which was granted him." 

" August 22nd. At seven I went to meet ths Cob- 
mittee; came home past ten, snndiy debates dst shiiii i 
till that time. The one respecting Blair MiCtassfssi 
ship is referred to the dct«rmination of the Os ugwu u 
we could not overrule their resolve of Jane — } owsttir 
respecting [Isaac] Uunt, who would giw no pssitin 
answer whether he would prosecute ths suit or BOk list 
requested to have the minutes of this meeUiig in 
with leave to give his answer in writing; tlw 
loolced upon to be only evasive, so it 
nemme eontradteeHtt, that his answer was nst t* sslil- 

" August 26th. At iire I went to the Goflbs HssiSi 
being called there to meet the sub-committes on ascasst 
of Isaac Hunt's case ; and, after some confsrsnesb agfstl 
to meet at said place next Second Day mmilur at liM 

>< August 28th. At nine I went to ths Goflbs HsMs: 
met the Committee respecting Isaac Hont; wont mv 
at eleven." 

" September Olh. Between eleven and twelve tbii 
fureiiooii, about thirty of our associators waited apon sal 
conducted Isaac Hunt from his dweliiag to the Ooft* 
House, where, liaving placed him in a eart» he Wf po- 
litely acknowledged he had said and setad wrong; ftr 
which lie askeil pardon of the pnblie^ and coiinitteJ 
hiuidelf under the protection of the associators to ddtd 
him from any gross insults from the popniaee. lliist !>)> 
behaviour, thcr approved him, and condactad Um ia 
that situation, with drum beating, throngh tha priDtifsl 
streets; he acknowledging his miscondnet in dinn 
places. But as they were coming down town, stMipaS 
at the corner where' Dr. Keanley livss, to maks hH de- 
claration, it'.s said the Ur. threw open bis window, snap- 
ped a pistol twice amongst the crowd | upon which th^ 
seizoil him, tocik his pistol, with anctiier In his pocket 
from him, hoth of which wore loaded with swon-fhrt. 
In the scuiTlo he got wounded in ths hsnd. Tbsy lUn 
took Hunt out of the cart, conducted him soft horns, psi 
Kearsley in, bronght him to [ths] Goflbs Hoose^ whM 
persuasions were nssd to csoss him to ' 




bat to no eire(;t. They Iheo, wilii drum beating, paraded 
Hn itrcftR TOOTKl the toirn, then took him li»ck to liii 
boVM Ul>1 left liiin thrie; Init as the mob were prrrented 
itf th« asMciators, who (ourdeJ biiu, Trom tarring and 
/wtbtriog. yel, adtt ihc auiiciuton wei-e gonu, tb«y theu 
broke the windows iind abiuod the house," &c 


Pllie follon-iag additional paiticnlars of the treatment 
of l)r. Keariiloy and Isaac Hunt are given in an nniusing 
work liy Al'-xainlcr Graydon. eutided Memoirt 0/ a Life, 
<hirfly iMtttril in J'cHntfltania. Ediulj. 8vo. 16^3: — 
" Among th- disaffucUxl iu PhiladelpJiia, Dr. Rearsley 
waa pre-eminently anient and raah, An extremely 
ceaioaa lovalitt, and impetuoui in hia temper, be had 
given much umbrage to the Whigs; nnd, if I nm not 
mistaken, hu had been detected in some hostile machina- 
tions. Hence he was deemed a pro[>er subjert fur the 
Ctahiunable punishment of tarring, feathering, and cart- 
ion. Ue waa seiaed at bis own door by a party of the 
mil'"' ■■ the attempt to resist thera, recaired a 

wou d from a bflvonet. Being overpowered, 

lie V. 1 a cart provideil for the purpoM, and, 

amidst a niulLtudo of boys and idlers, paraded through 
the atrecls to the tunc of the Koguc's Mareb. 1 bap- 
. .—...I ... (j^ ^i (|jg coffee-hofise when the concourse «r- 
'. Tliey made a bale, while the Doctor, foaming 
.ind indignation, without liis hat, hia wig dis- 
he vc'llcLi, and blowly from his wounded hand, stood up in 
the cart and called for a bonl of punch. It was quickly 
handed to him ; when, so vehement waa his thirst, that 
hr ilrainrd it of its content* before he took it from his 
What were the feelings of others on this lawleea 
'ing I know not, but mine, I must confeaa, revolted 
•pectacJe, I was shocked at seeing a lately re- 
citizen go cruelly vilified, and was impnident 
Moagh to any, that, had' I been n magistrate, I would, 
at arerybozard, have interposed ray authority in anp- 
proacion of the outr.igfi. But this was not the only in- 
lt«n«« which convinced me-thati wanted nerves for a 
fMrelutlonUt. It must be adniitte<l. however, that the 
rondsct of the populace was marked by a leoity^ which 
Mteeliarlr distincuikhad the cradle of our republicanism. 
Tar and watbera had been dispensed with, and, excepting 
the injury he had received iu his hand, no sort of nolence 
*»■ evened by the mob to thelrvictim. Hut to a man 
«f high nirit, as the D>ictnr was, tlie indignity in its 
ti gl At nrm waa sufficient to madden him : it probably 
hmi 00$ effect, aioco his conduct became so extremely 
golfgeoaa that it was thought necessary to confine him. 
nom the city ho was soon after removed to Carlisle, 
whrre he died during the war. 

" A few days after the carting of Dr. Keanley, Mr. 
lamMC Hunt, tlic attorney, wiu treated in the same manner, 
bat be managed the matter much better than hia j>re- 
CBnor. instead of braving hia condactora like the Doc- 
tor, Mr. Hunt was a pattern of meekness and humility, 
knd at every halt that was made, he rose and expressed 
hia ackiiowledgnients to the crowd for their forbearance 
and eiviiity. After a parade of an hoar or two. he was 
att down at hia own door, as uninjurvd in body as in 
mind. Ue «««o after removed to ooa of the islands, if I 
mlatakr not, to Borbadoes, where, it is ouderatood, be 

ttook orders." 
These ciraimitucea are also noticed br Lclgfa Hunt 
^n hit ^WoMq^ropAy. p. 8. edit. 18C0.— F.T>.J 

tiiin by tbe crlhor of tlio Hitlory of hi* otvn l^ime 
(vide Memorandum at the bnck of title to the 
second volume in folio edition), remained in pos- 
session of tlie Bishop's descendant until the j>erind 
stated above, ut which time his profession wns 
that of a tailor. A gentleman now one of " Lon- 
don's ' merchant princes," then n town traveller, 
calling on him in the way of his avocations, learnt 
that being a descendant of the Uisiiup'si, he hud 
that prelate's watch and other fumiljr matters ; 
also, a lurge quantity of mnnuserijjt books and 

f)iiperg, which being an incumbrance underneath 
lis shop-board, he should be gind to be quit of. 
Tins being communicBted to a near relation of 
the aforesaid town traveller, a bookseller, the 
mass was ptirchased nl that time, now nearly a 
quarter of a century ago. I had the pleasure of 
Be<:irtg them, and noticed the bulJc coo«itted of 
•everal seta of the Own Time neatly transcribed, 
with numerous iuteriineutions, alterations, and 
other amendments ; a memorandum on one volume 
slating for the sixth time of copying (t. e. if my 
memory does not fail me). Tliere was also a 
quantity of original letters of the early He- 
fonncrs, and many transcripts of otherft, together 
with the Bishop's transcript uf the Diary of the 
Couoiess of Warwick, of which more than one 
edition has ifsued from the press. That por- 
tion relating to the Own Tim« waa submitted to 
the late Tenerible Dr. Routli, and purchased ; 
from the papers wa* printed The Hutory of 
tte Reign of Jame* 11^ 8vo. Oxford, 1852, &c. 
Whether the MSS. have gone to Durham with 
the Doctor's fitM library, or remain at Oxford, I 
have never beard. ITie other portion of them, 
containing the letters by the early Reformers, and 
which your esteemed correspondent TV. M. of 
Baltimore, U.S., inquires for in " N.& Q." (S""" S. 
vtii. 87.), were sent to the late Mr. Evans of Pall 
Mall for sale, and there disposed of, and occur in 
the fifth day's sale, commencing Saturday, July 
21, 1838. The entire series of Evans's Sale Cata- 
logue* being deposited in the British IMuseum, the 
TariouB lota may even now be traced to their 
present locale.* Fur his assurance I inclose the 
pages of the auction Catalogue, which, if you 
Lave the means of conveying to your American 
correspondent, he will be glud to receive, although 
the name of Cranmer only appears in the dctaila 
of the sale Catalogue, and not that of the learned 
Osiander. N. T. 

For some years prior to 1837, these papers, which 
had been promiseu to be placed in a pubUo ooUee- 

jHfnar fta\ti> 

Old EirousH Militaht UniroBM. — It may be 
worth recording that our troops, at one period of 
their history, were distinguished by badges similar 

[* Tba CatalogM states that tbia h>t (1016.) was par- 
chaaMi by Mr. Bomk for 26/:— Ed.I 




to those worn bj watermen of the present day. 
The colour of their dresses appears to have been 
white ; though in 1544 a parr, of the forces of 
Henry VIII. were ordered to be dressed in blue 
coats, guarded with red, without badges ; the right 
hose red, and the left one blue. In 1584, Eliza- 
beth commanded that the cassocks of the sohliers 
sent to Ireland should be a sad green, or russet. 
The cloaks of the cavalry during her reign were 
red. In 1693, the dresses of the soldiers were 
grey, and those of the drummers purple. The 
universal scarlet of the line was probably not 
adopted until after George I. came over to " as- 
cend the throne of his ancestors." 

Kalph Woodman. 
New College, St John's Wood. 

CoBONATiOM or Edwakd IV. : Fbast or St. 
Leon. — Sir Harris Nicolas is doubtful whether 
the coronation of Edward IV. was on the 28th or 
29th June : the following extract from the Cinque 
Forts at Romney fixes the date as the 2Sth. " Be 
it remembered, that on Sunday after the Feast 
of St. Leon, and on the Vigil of the Apostles of 
Peter and Paul in the year 1461, our Lord Ed- 
ward the 4th after the Conquest, ' sublevatus est 
in regem et apud Wcstm. coronatus,' the Barons 
of the Cinque Ports bearing the canopy according 
to custom.* The record shows also that the 1 3th 
June cannot be the correct date of St. Leon's 
Feast. Nicolas quotes the Cotton MS., Domitian 
A. xvii., as his authority for the 13th, but it could 
not be earlier than the 21 st. 

Wm. Durrant Coopeb. 

81. Guilford Street. 

Books Bubnt. — I do not see that any notice 
has been taken. in " N. & Q." of the burning oi' 
the Praxis Spiritnalin. Abp. Laud writes in 
1G37 to his Vice-Chanocllor : — 

" There wan an Knglish translation of a book of devo- 
tion, written hy Sales, Bp. of Geneva, and intitl'd Praxit 
SpiritwiHt, lice Introductin ad Vitam detotam, licensed by 
Dr. Huywood, then my Chaplain, about the latter end of 
Nov ; but bcfore'it pa.<ueil his bands, he tirst struck 
out (livers things wherein it varied from the doctrine of 
our Church, and so passed it. But ;by the practice of 
one Burrowes (who is now found to be'a Roman Catho- 
lick) those passages struck out by Dr. Haywood were 
interlined afterwards, and were printed acconling to 
Burrowes's fdlsilicalion.i. The book being thus printed, 
gave great and just ofTence, especially to myself, who, 
upon the first hearing of it, gave present order to seize 
upon nil the copies, and to bum them piilAichly in Smith- 
fitld. Eleven or twelve hundred copies were seized and 
burnt accordingly." — Laud's Chancellorship, fol. 1700, 
p. 129. 

John S. Bubn. 

Cmricai. Heroes.— The Rev. George Walker, 
who has handed down his name to posterity as 
the gallant defender of Londonderry against the 
forces of James in 1689, soon aAer the termina- 

tion of that memorable siege was rewarded with 
the honorary degree of D.D. by the University rf 
Oxford, received the thanks of Parliament, and 
was nominated by William to the see of Deny 
for his services. The bishop designate however, 
whose chivalrous spirit had postponed the mitre 
to the sword, never lived to wear the corona oJ- 
sidiotudis presented by William, being among the 
slain at the battle of the Boyne. 

The Rev. James Parker Harris, B.A., of Bfs* 
sennose College, Oxford, known as the chaplain of 
Lucknow, had conferred on him at the lost com- 
memoration the honorary degree of M. A. for the 
unflinching bravery with which he ministered to 
the wants of the sick and suflTering during that 
siege. The address of the Vice-Chanceluir on 
that occasion, "Vir Reverende, et/oriutinu," wsi 
indeed well and nobl^ earned, and met with ts 
enthusiastic response m the theatre. Walker wis, 
I presume, the last, if not the first, of derieil 
heroes who ever received the thankt of ParVamtd 
for military achievements. There mav be numj 
among the clerical body who, if invasion threat- 
ened our shores, would prove good Wcdkera ia 
the face of an enemy (perhaps good nmners tool). 
Some there indeed may be who would shmilder 
the "volunteer's" rifle now, and do great ejce- 
cution, but cedant arma togte we must adopt as ■ 
prohibitory motto, not forgetting the stereotyped 
fate of all such militant saints — Thejr that taka 
the rifle much perish with the rifle. F. ftuLLOTT. 

Mas. Shkbwood's AnTOBiooRAPHT : Buns' 
Pedigbeb. — Db. Doban, in a reply (3"* S. iiL 
16.), refers to this Autobiography as containing a 
pedigree of the authoress, who, before her mar^ 
riage, bore the name of Butts. The Doctor is 
his remarks quietly satirises the egresious TOiiity 
of the lad^, whose pretentious humuity did not 
deter her from ostentatiously parading her family 
pedigree before the world. Had the Doctor known 
that the vaunted pedigree was a tissue of fictKHii^ 
and that the authoress did not descend from as 
illustrious knightly family, and that she waa not 
connected with the family of the Lord Keeper 
Bacon — whose features and likenett the bore*— 
he would have been less delicate in handling the 
subject. The pedigree, as appears by the com- 
munications of the Rev. J. H. Dash wood, is a grocs 
fraud : the early part of it being apporendy fii- 
brioated by the notorious Wm. Sidney Spencer 
and the latter by some other equally unscrupu- 
lous person, who, for the purpose of connecting 
the authoress with the veritable Bults family of 
Shouldham Thorpe in the county of Norfolk^ 
gives to one of that family, known by his funeral 
certificate in the College of Arms to have died 

* According to the fictitious pedigres Mr» SharaMd 
had iiA descent from the Bacon liuUly. How tihs ■•■ 
markable Ukeness came is, thersfora, a naml. 

. X Ava. n. •CO.! 



ihout iHue, a son. Sir Leonard Butts, fictitious 
liglil snU personage, who is thereupon made to 
the ani.eiitor of the four generatiun« of Butts 
[>Di whom Airs. Sherwood reiilly did descend. 
Nf>w the oliject I have in view is to give publicity 
-to this gross imposition, in order that no future 
■fedition of this pious book -niny be publisiied with- 
Knt the expurgation of the pedigree and vain- 
B^orioua miatatements contained in the first chapter 
Bf the work. Al.\n HE^RY Swatman. 

H 'Lxtm. 

■ OwBN Gt.sxD0WEB. — I find the following note 
in a contcmporury MS. Was any farther mves- 
tigation tnAile into the subject ? 

" About UiRO the rliaruh at Monington was rebuilt 
Ibo cliurchyiird stonJ tlia Irunke of a gycamoro, in 
tight about !> (mil. (liametcr 2 foot and a half, which 
«lng in tlie workeinen's way was cnt down; dinxtly 
nilvr it, al^out a foot b«low the 6urfnre of the ground, 
wjK laii) a Ivrce Kravratone without any inscription, and 
tliat being removed, there wag discovered at the bottom 
of a Hvli-stiineil f^rave the body (as is suppoe'd) of Owen 
lileiidor, wbi'b was whole and «ntir« and of goodly sla- 
art But there were [no?l tokens or remoins of any 
DtKn. Wbero any part of it wan tourlit it ftill to aMica. 
Ifter it bad been eiqwsed two days, M'. Tomkins order'd 
lie stone to be placed over it again, aod Ibe earth to bo 
. in upon it." 

[Thia paragraph is printed from the Hnrl. MS. 6832.i in 
le Uer. Tboinai) Thoioas's Mrmoiri of Oirtn Glendower, 
169., 8vo. 1822.— li».] 



In the January nutaber of the East Anglian, 
Note* and Querien on SuhjecU connected wilh 
Cmntim of Stiffolh, Cambridge, Enex, and 
^^orfiilh, a question was asked about the word 
Hatch ai applied to places in Essex, as Kelve- 
don Hatch, &c. The querist, Mr. R. S. Char- 
iinck, there states he presumes " the meaning of 
de word in E.«ex js always that given by Morant 
p. 185.), 'a low gate towards the forest.'" FTe 
Ids, however, tliat the word hatch has another 
ling, viz. " (lood-gntes ;" and f;oe» on to siiy, 
flood-gates exist, or ever could have existed, 
the places bearing the name of Hatch, 
r of any kind is near them." 
think the meaning of the name Hatch, as ap- 
.•d to a village, may be ndvanlageously dig- 
sod in " N. & Q." I will, therefore, olTer a few 
w on the various senses in which the word 
used : — 

The lower half of a door cut in two horizon- 
/, »» is to be seen in many cottages, is called a 
itch, apparently Ironi hacher, to cut. The 
fnings in the deck of a ship through which 
ty fleicend to the cabins, &c., are called hatches, 
bubly for the saiuc reason ; as also, according 
Ainsworth, arc flood-gates. 



In Cornwall the term hatchet is applied to ex- 
press any openings of the earth either into or in 
search of mines. The openings in which nothing 
is found are cnlled essai/ hatches; the mouths of 
the veins tin-hatches ; and the shnfts, whore the 
buckets of ore are wound up, wind-hatchea. 
Hatches also denote certain dams made of clay, 
earth, and rubbish, to prevent the water issuing 
from the stream- works and tin- washes from run- 
ning into the fresh rivers ; they are mentioned in 
the statutes 23 Hen. VIII. c. 8. and *27 Hen. 
VIII. c. 23^ and are there called hatches and /yw. 
The tenants of Balystohe, and other manors in 
Cornwall, are bound to do yearly certain days* 
work " ad la haccliet," otherwise " ad le hatches," 
for the purpose of keeping them in proper repair- 
Giles Jaet)b, in his Law lyietionart/, printed in the 
Savoy, 1750, says: "and from Hutch, gate or 
door, some houses situate on the highway, near a 
common gate, arc called Ilotchei." I su[>posc by 
a conitnon gate a turnpike gate is meant. 

The question then is, are any of the Essex 
Hatches near u turnpike or common gate, or near 

tiresent or ancient mines ? I am sorry to say I 
:now but tiiile of Essex myself, and have not 
even seen one of the Hatches ; some correspon- 
dent of " N. & Q " will, however, bo able pro- 
bably lo answer these quealions, or to suggest 
suitic other meaning of the affix Hatch. 

the fiillowing are a few of Ihc Essex Hatches : 
Kelvedon Hatch, Pilgrim's Hiitcli, Fox Hatch, 
Aubury Hatch, How Hatch, Chlngford Hatch, 
Newiiort Hatch, West Haich, and Hoaatly Ilatrb. 

J. A. Pn. 

Mas. Thomas akd tuk Ddke or Momtaoub. 
— I have lately read that Mrs. Tlmnias, "Corinnu," 
was living in Dyot Street, Bhwrnsbury, with a 
grown-up daughter when the Duke of Montague 
took lodgings in her house, professing a wish to 
be able to have an occasional quiet dinner with 
some honest fellows ; that these turned out also 
to be noblemen ; and that it was at Mrs. Thomas' 
house the Revolution was concocted. Jn 
support ot" this story one is referred to vol. .xii. of 
some biographical dictionary. Mrs. Tliouias seeraS) 
however, not to liave been thirty years of age at 
Drydcii's death. Is the story a myth entirelv, or 
is it founded on truth ? V. H. 

Maoi-is Castle. — In one of the volumes of 
Theoilorc Hook's Precept and Practice, there is a 
purtion of a tule having thij heading, which the 
author states that he stumbled upon when travel- 
ling in the West of England. Tlie tale is very 
abruptly broken off, and Hook says that the 
manuscript is given as he received it. I wish to 
inquire whether or not the remainder of the story 
has ever been met with; and if so, where it is to 
bo found ? Mr. Hook believed it to ta vra*, woA- 




as it is so far very peculiar and interesting, it is 
desirable that the remainder should be found and 
published. J. A. Davies. 

Mbahino or "End" as uses by Buntam, 1684. 
— Richar<l8r)n pives more than twenty uses, but 
not one which illustrates Bunyan's old Saxonism. 
His, "the point wc intend to reach," comes the 
nearest. I have thought and hunted in vain for 
what any village politician in Bedfordshire would 
cxplun, and wonder at the ignorance of the in- 

"Having got some little smattering of Emmanuel's 
things by the end."— flb/y War. 

" Knew him ! I was a great companion of his; I was 
with him most an end." — Pilg. Prog., Part 2. ; Dialogue 
between Greatheart and Honest, about Mr. Fearing, be- 
fore they came to the house of Gains. 

The author's Apology for the Pilgrim, Part 
1.: — 

" Thn« I set pen to pnper with delight, 
And quickly had iny thoughts on black and white. 
For having' now my method bj/ Uu end. 
Still as I pull'd it came ; and bo I penned 
It down " 

Can any of the readers of " N. & Q." enlighten 
me as to Bunyan's use of the word "end" in the 
above extracts ? Gkobge Oftob. 


IIooKs AXD Etbs 0. Bottoms. — ' 

" In vain unnatural hooks and eves 
Corobinwl [cimjoiii'dl in foul rvbellion rise, 

And strive tVcll|se thy glories; 
Through many ages yet unborn. 
Thy wfll-turned linttonti »ball be born, 
The pride of future Tories" 

" 0<le to the King " (Ji. F. H. for 
Wit. vol. iv. p. 230. 1784.) 

Among the mechanical amusements of George 
III., for wh!(-h he was subjected to much nn- 
mcrited ridicule, was turnitig buttons, — I suppose 
of mother-df-pearl, or some sulistancc that would 
admit the action of the lathe. It is intimated in 
the above stanza that hooks and eyes were begin- 
ning to compete for popularity with the said 
buttons, though without success. From this I am 
disposed to infer that the former were at that time 
a recent invention. If so, who was the inventor, 
and who the manufacturer, supposing them to 
have been difierent persons ? 

Within my recollection an attempt has been 
made to substitute hooks and eyes for buttons on 
parts of the male dress, but to no purpose. As 
to how the ladies managed before hooks and eyes 
were invented I leave to the initiated in such mat- 
ters to determine. 

Turning buttons may seem unworthy of the 
royal dignity, but it was not worse than the petti- 
coat embroidering of Ferdinand VII., or the pa- 
tienre-playinj; of the Prince Regent, celebrated 
by Moore (/^m^e Famili/ in Parii). I could quote 

many other passages in which the poor king*! 
for mechanics is mercilessly ridiculed ; e. g. 

"Then shall my lofty numbers tell 
Who taught the royal babei to spell. 

And sovereign arts puriae ; 
Tu mend a watch, or set a clock ; 
Kew patterns shape for Harvey's frock. 
Or buttons made at Kew." 

{N. F.>r mt, vol. ii ^ 150.. 1781) 

W. D. 

Co^rEssION i> Yebse. — About thir^-fivc yean 
ago a soldier was executed either in Kent or 
Surrey for the murder of a woman in a fit of 
jealousy. Ills name was John Smith. He vpt 
a very old man, and on the scaffold he handed 
to the sheriff* a confession in verse, which vu 
composed the night before. Can any of jonr 
correspondents favour me with tlie lines, or if 
they are too long for insertion in " N. & Q." tcU 
mc where they may be found ? (X& 

Mabshai. Ddc de Berwick.. — I shall be nnuk 

obliged to any of your heraldic contribnton wko 
can inform me (in correct blazon) what were (ke 
arms borne by the Marshal Duo de Berwick, tad 
his brother Henry Fitz James, the Grand Prior. 


Leighton Family. — In the pedigree of thii 
family in the late Mr. George Morris's of Shrews 
bury Genealogical MSS., tu Robert Leighton, ad- 
mitted burgess of Shrewsbury 5 Edw. IV. 1465, 
a son of Juhn Leighton, ¥jsc[., of Leighton aad 
Stretton, by Matilds, daughter and heir of Wm. 
Cambray of Church Stretton, is appended tUl 
remark : " a quo Leightons of co. York." Can any 
one furnish me with the pedigree of the YoricaUra 
Leightons P The communication of any particiilan 
respecting individuals of this name, of any peiiod 
or condition in life, cither dead or living, or vsj 
iufurmation respecting the numerous jounger 
branches scattered through Shropshire, Staffind- 
shire, Worcestershire, Yorkshire, or other coot- 
tics is requested. W. A. LuqhtOI- 


Captain in 1721. — An individual known to 
have the rank of " Captain," but of what Mo- 
ment is not known, and resident in London in 
1721. Arc there any means of ascertainingtiie 
date of his death from documenta at the War 
Office or elsewhere ? W. A. Lsiosno. 

FitiuBES IN Westok CHnBcii, Salop. —lit 
Harl. MS. 2129, p. 271., says that in 16th or 17th 
century there was in the east window of WestW 
Chapel, CO. Salop, stained glass representing two 
kneeling figure.o, male ana female. The dexter 
or male figure was spurred, the head corered bj 
a cap. 'J^e knight wore a surcoat of ■nn^ tift 
azure, a spread eagle, argent, with a lahd of tbas 
points or, fretty sable. Underneath wwe A0 




i»M ^onAjtmab Ite ftanale 6gurc wore « 

of arms, tu. qcMXtalj ^er ie*»$ indented 

guke*. TJiwIiiMilfc wrrr tbc letters dsk 

Ihc m* «^ il>e l^dy arc those of 

[Wt Ite MS. pedifrn^t I possess of rhe 

idbt^KBcmj allitnce corre3|>oniling. 

' query i% trie ire parties rcrircsontcd F 

\\. A. LEiunTos. 

r JomntM, — Has any route heen conjec- 

tbe Biver Jordmii ibrough Palestine, 

I de rtiu e U» of the cities of the [ilaiti, 

k tia* U lias emptied itself into the 

J. M. S. 

[Cas/* Ww 

rJtt «• Km« irMt T«Bda KlgMOfl. k la mort 

|hft«t ana yte 4U pay^ qaa 1300 «nu k U 

4i UfMck : ea qaa pronvonut k mon sens, 

tamn pour K&nt M «on iileulo^ie iliminue 

. Ccita pmiikc tUat 1m riTiilions de son 

tlrm saini ' - ' — > .< ^ifctre Jcs 

aitea ife 1'. ' 'lUrulurr 

L« «r fmblieatiaa is " Avril, 1819," ao«l it 

d r'j'.it-in Ti'srs after without any nn- 

I of error, is the 

Ttf ? Its ttuthentU 

cava. I prxauaMf, ^n a level with the sale of Sir 

[ Uk KevhMi'* to(>ih DOtice<l in "N. & Q.," I" S. 

m.V7. Vi-rior Hugo, in 1819, was a young man, 

thaft* not very rigid in yerifjiiig historical 

•I p. 14A. he sajrs: "Louis XIV. se 

dMiaaore li ton ralet de chanibre I'eut 

IMptmik^!" H.B.C. 

Oatcmm. — Formerly in this yenerublo old 
tMra«(d to be held a charter fiiir called Seald- 
ciflbf Ziir. io which the grand amusement was 
tatkivv half-boiled large codling auples at one 
iwAcr, in ika same manner aa snowualls, which 
tftmr*' bcrpattered ike iiidividuHl receiving the 
^<i to know if this relic of anli- 
■ec«o»e obsolete ? 

'■ ■ ' r I mi<;ht a« well 

!ioyhoi>d ot" Daniel 

. j^-ij. V» iitn under articles to 

^, named Daniels, the ajpliinf; 

! ■ ! vpona wall this inscription : — 

: , M.P. for Colchester. It 

"'"Mtious dream was sin- 

inU I am informed the 

.1.1 „Liy preiicrved. Some of 

; corrcspoodeuij may probably be in a 

I to corroborate this. iTUURitL. 

" or FikiBiaoDos. — Will any of your 

I corrf?' ■ ' ••• oblige tijc, if they ran, 

"1. u of the ward of Far- 

., ,. ^■.^. :U<j time trben VVilJiam 

a 4utd Irotdtmitb and SberiS' hi 

1281, purchased (accoidinjj tu Slow) "all the 
aldemwneie and the appurUnanoe* " which An- 
kcrirus do Avenc held during kin life, by (irant of 
Thoma< Averne, unto the aaooaaaioD of Sir Francis 
Child, Knight, to the Alderoumcy b 16S9. 

T. C. N. 
"Ton Ci-OAK KK.VTr«T." — Has there been any 
copy printed of a political ballad of the time of 
Charles I.? which commences — 

■■ Come bay my naw baUaU* 
I liave in my wallett, 
Bnt 'twill Dot I feare'pUaae eraiy pdOatt," 

and of which the burthen is — 

" Tb«n lett us indonrer to pull tbia Cloak down. 
That crompt all the kingdoine and cripled the Crown." 

(I do not perceive the meaning of the word 
" crompt " *, but it is plainly su written twice in 
the MS. before me.) 

It consists of eleven stanzas, each r>f eight rerses, 
besides the burthen ; and the second points nearly 
to the time of its composition: — 

" lie Ivll joa in bri«lk 
A stoTT of g^rkC, 
Which bspjintJ whenCloake was commander in ehie',— 
It tore Common Prayers, 
Imprieoned lA>r(t Mayor*, 
In oaa day it voic4 ilo\7n PreUtM and V\»yan, 
It BiaHe iMOplu pcrjanl in point of oboilicncp, 
Aud tb« CovciittDt did cut dtftbe Oath or.MlegUoce." 

Joux GoceH KtcHOLa. 

KBHTisit MiixEB. — About the Idid, aa 
near as I can remeinber, an Dccount of a Kentish 
miller's funeral was givun in the papers. Ho left 
handsome k-gucies to his executors, oji cnndition 
that they. should bury him under the mill, and 
place the following epitaph, his own composition, 
above him : — 

"Unjerneafh thi» anuient roill 

Lies Ibe Iwxlr of poor Will j 

Odd be lived and odd he died. 

And at liii fuaeial nobody ctiad. 

Where be'e gone aad how h« farw, 

Xubody knows and nobody carta." 

The lust two lines arc much older than the 
miller. I am told that there is u Latin original, 
which I shall bo glad to see, and also to have 
some reference to the story, and the means of 
knowing whether it is true, or a newspa|>er fic- 
tion. Names and localitiea were fully given, but 
I have forgotten them. Ssmbx. 

M.iRqvts iix S^naAM. — L^pon the failure of the 
mission of tlie Comtc de Harcourt in favour of 
Charles I., the French Court in 1644 sent the 
Marquis de !>:i1>i{»ii U> convey assistance to the 
Kiui;;. It the Marquis de Sahran 

married an > nd I should feel obliged 

if any of yuur oi>i'i-i'<ipt>ud«nta could inform me of 
her name and familv, P- P- 

P ?\:T»tt\Vt.— tX».''^.H'V^ 




Edward Randolph. — I wish to learn some- 
thing of the antecedents of Edward Randolph, 
mIio played so prominent a part in the affairs of 
New England between 1677 and 1689. Was he 
an underling in the oiBce of Mr. Secretary 
Coventry, or if not, what was his history previous 
to the date above-mentioned ? R. E. H. 

t^uttiti initb 9tuRDer<. 

SoHN£T on Sib Thomas Sbtmocb. — Is the 
following sonnet, written on a picture of Protector 
Somerset*, anywhere to be found in prints and can 
the writer be traced ? — 

" or person rare, stroti); limbes, and manly shape ; 
or nature framed to sarve on sea and land ; 
Of friendship Arm, in good state or ill hape; 
In peace head-wii>e, in war-skill greate boulde hand; 
On horce nr fote, in perill or in playo, 
None could excel, thouf;h many did essaye. 
A subjecte true, to Kinge a sean-ant greate; 
Frind to God's tnith, enimj to Rome's deceate; 
Sumptuose abroad, for honour of the lande. 
Temperate at home, ret kept great state with stiy, 
And noble house, that fed more mouths with meat 
Than some, advanst one higher steps to stand. 
Yet against nature, reason, and just lawes, 
His blode wase spilt, guiltlesse, without just cause." 

JoH5 Allen. 

[Tlie.°e lines were placed under a portrait of Thomas 
Seymonr, Baron Sudeley, brother to the Protector Somer- 
set. They are attributed to .Sir John Ilarington the 
elder, and are printed in TVuga: Anliqum, ii. 329., and en- 
titletl " Upon the Lord Admiral Seymour's Picture." 
MiM Strickland (Q'lrrns n/'^nij/anrf, iv. 46., edit. 1831) 
states, "Queen ICIizabeth' continued to cherish the 
memory of her unsuitable lover [Seymour"] with tender- 
ness, not only iifier she had been deprived of him by the 
axe of the executioner, but for long vears afterwards, 
may be inferred from the favour whicL she always be- 
stowed on his faithful follower. Sir John Ilnrington the 
elder, and the fact, thi\t when she was actually the sover- 
eign of England, and hail rejected the addres-ies of many 
of the princes of Europe, Hariuutnn ventured to present 
her with a portrait of his deoe.iscil Lord, the admiral, with 
a descriptive sonnet. The gift was accepted, and no re- 
proof addressed to the donor."] 

" Essays," etc. — Esxays upon several Subjecls 
concenmm British Antiquitiex, Edinburgh, 1747. 
Who is the author of some able papers published 
under the above title, and at the above date ? C. 

[These Eiat/n, first published in 1747, are by Henry 
iionie, Lord Kamcs, and were intended by the author to 
allay the unhappy differences of the period. The third 
edition. 17(i3, contains additions and alterations. For a 
critical notice of this work see Alex. Fraser Tytler's Me- 
moirt of the Life onrf Wrilinf/t of the Hon. Henry Home 
ofKamei, vol. i. pp. 117-1-22., 4t6. 1807.] 

Ballad on Adp. Laud. — Mr. Chappell, in his 
admirable history of Popular Music of the Olden 
Time, quotes a scurrilous ballad against this 

* Jn the possession of Thomas Cholmondeley, Esq. Hod- 

archbishop (pp. 412, 413.), in which ooenn the 

following stanza : — 

" The little JFren. that soar'd so high, 
Thoaght on his wings away to wr. 

Like Fineh, I know not whither; 
But now the subtle whirly-wind 
Drhauck, bath left the bii^ behind. 

Yon two must flock together." 

Bishop Wren and Lord Keeper Finch are wdN 
known characters; but who or what waa "the 
8 ubtle whirly-wind Debauch f " T. A. T. 

[Mr. Chappell, or his transcriber, has copied tht abon 
stanza correctly from the original broadside, and in doiqg 
so has repeated unwittingly a compositor's ernMr. Ta a 
MS. copy of the ballad in question (Harleian Coll. 4nL]b 
the concluding lines of the stanza are properiy girWi 
thus : — 

" But the subtle whirly Wind- 
Dtbank, hstb left the bird behind. 
You two must flock together." 

The allusion is to Sir Francis Windebanke, Be cn t a y 
of State, " a great intimate (says Wliitelock, In his Jh* 
moriali) of Archbishop Laud," who escaped into Wnai» 
in the year 1640. This curious typographieal tmr 
affords another inatance of the almost hopeleaa co nh sha 
into which our early printers have thrown the laboanrf 
their contemporaries. J 

" Nanct Dawson." — I have made aereral nn- 
successful attempts to obtain a copy of the old 
song of " Nancy Dawson." A copy of the fint 
stanza, through the medium of " N. & Q.," woaU 
oblige C. D. K 

[We intended to content ourselves by qnotinR oatf 
the first verse of this song, so popular •* When Gesrgt 
the Second was king ;" but as it is rarely to be fiMM 
except in some out-of-the-way collections, audi ai 31* 
Bullfinch and Harrison's Vocal Magatbu, 1781, not ■ee*^ 
sible to many of our readers, we have decided on printlK 
it entire. It has been attributed to that wltimsieal oM 
eccentric character George Alexander SteveM) aaikir 
and actor : — 

" Of all the girls in our (own. 
The black, the fair, the red, the brown. 
That dnncc and prance it up and down. 
There's none like Nancy Daweon! 

" Her easy mien, her shape so neat. 
She foots, she trips, she looks so sweet. 
Her ev'ry motion's so complete, 
I die for Nancy Dawson I 

" See how she comes to give surprise^ 
With joy and pleasure in her eyes; 
To give delight she always tries^ 
So means my Nancy Dawson. 

" Was there no task t' obstmct the way, 
No Shutcr droll, nor house so gay, 
A bet of fifty pounds I'll lav, 

That 1 gain'd Nancy dawsoo. 

" See how the Op'ra takes a run, 
Exceeding Hamlet, Lear, or Lan, . 
Though in it there would be no tan, 
VVos 't not for Nancy Dawson. 

" Tho' Beard and Brent charm ev'iy night. 
And female Peach nm's Justly right, 
And Filch and Lockit please the lights 
'Tis crown'd by Nancy Pawago, 

1^ ax; Abo. U. '60.] 




" S»e little Davy rtrut «nd piiff — 
•P — on the Op'™ and sncli stnff. 
My houM is never full enoiigli, 
A ciireo on Naocjr Datraon!' 
" Though Garrick ha has had faia day. 
And Torc'd the town his la««a t* obey; 
Now Johnny Rich* ia cotnc in play. 
With help of Nancy Dawson."] 

" Cas6*ndba." — Can you give some account of 
a book entitlefl Caxsandra, the Famed Romance, 
R. Moscley, 1667, large 4to.? John Jakes. 

rrbe autlioT of Cauandra is G. ile Cost». Seign«ur d« 
la Calp^en^de, who published it at Paria in 16-12. It was 
" rendered into Engliah " by Sir Cbarlea Cotlerell, at the 
tim« he waa Steward to the Queen of Bohemia. The 
tnuulator'a Dedication to Charles II. ia dated from the 
Hague, June b, Kbi; but there is an English edition 
(perhaps of a portion) daicd Lond. 16.52, 8vo. The best 
edition we bsve met with is in folio, Lood. 1C7G. There 
ia also another in Ave vols. 12mo. \''i!>. Granger states 
that this work "is a medley of liintory and fable, and as 
DiDcb beyond ordinary life and manners, as the Panta- 
Koniana are beyond the size of ordinary men." {Biog. 
Milt, iv. 3IB., ed. 1775.) Peprs, however, was better 
pleased with Canandm than he was with Hudibrai: 
" Xov. 16. 1666. I did call at Martin's, my bookseller's, 
and there boaght Cauandra, and some olJjer French 
books fur my wife's closet; and so home, having eat no- 
thing but two pennyworths of oysters opened for me by a 
woman in the street." Again, "May 5, 1609. Thence 
home to mv wife, and she road to me the Kpistlo of Cut- 
tamira, which is very good indeed ; and the belter to lier, 
because ncotnmendcd by Sheres. So to sapper, and to 

The Poet, at Aphaca. — 

" Sozomen tells us of the pool at Aphacil}' in which 
tkt offerings of the pure sunk and were accepted, and 
lfe«M of tlie impure, tlmugh of gold or silver, floated 
■Bd were refused. This is not tn be accounted for on 
natural cao.u's, but we do nut know what tests were ap- 
plied to the ofieriuKS before tliey were thrown iu, and we 
may be sare that if real Kold nnd silver were got back 
from the prieata, that would not have been le»s wonderful 
than their floating; on the water." — P. 24. {Lelltr lo iht 
Rtv, H. DodwM on Miracia in the Primitire CAmi-oA, by 
a Layman. 8 vo. pp. 164. London. 1761.) 

A reference to the place in Sozomen, or any 
other writer who ineDtions tbia pool, will ubli^e 

C. E. 

[The pool in question was not far from Aphaca in Syria, 
ana was sacred lo Venus Aphucitit, who had a temple not 
far off We think the learned author of the "Letter to 
the Rev. H. [ ? W.] Dodwell " ninst have intended to refer 
to Zosimus. not to aozomen. Zosiinus, i. 58., describes the 
pool or lake in question as oocusionnlly floating articles 
made of the precioaa rnetats, and of other materiiils which 

usually sitlk (att ^ffif OVJ^ aU0pcifft^x( inl rtiv v&a-rot aAAa 

nroSiffirffai). Sozomen, ii. o., gives some account of the 
deslniction of the temple at Aphaca by Constantino. 
Seneca says (iVar. Quait. iii. 25.) "Erat in SIcilia, r>( 
adkue in Syria tlitgntim, in qao nalant latercs, ot mergi 
projeeta non po»*imt."] 

WiLi-iAM Wogas — Where was William AVo- 
pnn, author of the Etixiy on the Proper LeKxom, 

^iimf Harlequin Lun, 

living And officiating as churchwarden in Julj, 

1733? JoH« ALf.KN. 

[AVilliam Wogun was in 1738 settled at Kaling in Mid- 
dlesex. See his Life by James GutlifT, preR.xcd to llig 
third edition of his E—uy, 4 vols. Svo. 1818, and "N. & 
(J." P«S. x\, 21-L] 


(a"" S. X. 39.) 

I hasten to comply with Mb. Foss's request. 
As Ilia only object, is to compare the reporter's 
notes with the printed speech, with a view lo 
ilecidin;^ the que.stion of nulhorship, I take it for 
i;ranted that it will be .luflicient if I trnnscribe tho 
first pii^f of Wbitelock'a speech.' The whole of 
it occupies eight closely written pages : — 

» M' Whitlock 

8 m"' moved 
in this p'liament 
ot grent weight 


2 Jalii 

1 The namt of great bry- 

e Tbe'Union 

S This t]uestio An— ? ali- 
quid habeat vel ni- 

"Whither wee be tenants of what wee have at the 
kinps will or noe. 

" By I he books of rntes and leters p'tent theise imposs 
are sett for liyni and his acyres and succeKsors. Whereas 
all former imposs were sett but for a tyme. 

Tlieiselropositionsagainst^ 1 Against the established 
law for 4 reasons. frrae of govcrml. 

2 Against Jua privato. 

3 Against acts of par- 

4 Contra more miiiora. 

" He argues that in this sttite the sovraigne power reals 
in the kinge. 

" But he hatha power 1 1" P»Hiaffit_ 
' ] out orp.irlinml. 

"The fimt power coatro1Ubli> hy tlitf later. An if he 
grantes letters patents of hymtelf lie cannot cuntrolle it, 
but he may i^ parlinrnt. 

" In pariinriil he niny reverse that Jndgiiit w'* ho hym- 
self gare in (he kinges benche." 

It would surt-ly be useless to copy any fartlier. 
Yelverton's speech f l>einj: alto;zether unknown, T 
proceed to pive the whole of it. He was the 
second speaker on the 2!>ili June : — 

"M' Vclverto. In poynt of right the king may im- 
pcise. lie wished wee would iudge of hym in cold* 
blonde, • 

" No act of pari' yet made, nor any cann be made bnt 
the kinge may impose. 

" 2 things considerable. 

" Let hym impose upo what rause be will the reaso and 
cause thearof will never como in queslinu. 

"4 Cose^ 1 He may impose to mayntaine equality 
amongst the merchimis theymselves. If one merchant 
ingrosse all the trade the king may impose upO hym. It 
is not fltt that all the rest ahonld starve. 

"impose upO Harvy and S' .To: Spenser All soniie* of 
the same priue [ .' prerogative] A 

• Sl.M8.4W„(<iV.1ft.V 

\ "^oV ^V"^ 



[2<x & Z. Avck U. '«0l 

"2 He may impoM to keepe the ballance cren be- 
twtMiui: liyinself and forrayue princes. Agreeable to state, 
pollicy and lawc. 

"The presidents in 27 H. 6 & 7 11. 7 • prove 

anil not that tlic kinge could not impose cf riglit, 

Venice, pprbnps the other princes in those cases did it 

liy a publick edict, and therefore the kinge vould observe 

the like lourse. 

"3 If a forrayne prynce prowe greato and wealthy by 
our coModiiies and ■nix weeke the kinge may impose. 
" 1 Jn tyme of, 

" Iteaton*. 

"That he may Impose by the comO hnvc. 
"2 kyndes of Imiioss. 
" I'by way of Cuetome or tulle. 
" 2 by way of penalty. 
" The questio is not now of the first. lie thinkos be 
can hardly impose in poynt of custonie, thoe customc be 
due by the Corns lawe. fie cannot impose a new customc, 
the smcs of the statutes make against it. 

"Neith lawe nor statute againbt this. 
w»}"'fi"n»lity. ^•" ''••' coif.on lawe had sett downe an order 
in poynt of merchandise it were to bo ob- 
served ve Brook Ucuise IC. So the Statutes arc but es- 
planaclo of the comO lawe. Imposs may be layd iipO 
mcrcb.nnts strangers 13 E 4. But the merchants of Engla'' 
trade, not by the comO lawe of the_land, but by the luwe 
of nationx, but for Imposs upD comoditics w">iu land as 
upO Alehouse.', they are against lawc because the cumO 
lawe hathe nscribed a, forme. 

" 22 l\ 3 f lU, Tryall apoynled p mediutat Liugnu) be- 
fore any Statute. 

" Yet hi ultrud not the eouitj" of the lawe %v''' a]K>ynlcd 
an inditlercnt trinll to all ; but he altred precepta Irgis. 

" Grant to I^udoners that the need not 

'^"Eh^croymy {(>,.„« battell: a good patent. It stands t 

w'l' the equity of the lawc to rompcU a citi- 

zene to iovne battell w"> a eouldier. 

"10 !■: 3. f. 1."). Grant to merchants of the Staple to 

f take any mans howse in Westn fro hym. It 

(ium'> 1 '^ intended iliat it was p bono publico, and that 

'* ( (tands w"' the equity ol the lawc. 

"Wee are where the tomo luwe cannot iudge. The 

merchant hathe no remedy against hym that spoyles at 

sea. lie is not under the protevtio of the lawe, thoe 

nnder the ptect of the king. An nutlary thearforo 

vnyd of one beyond sea. lie is under the Jurisdictiu of 

the king by the lawe of nations, li. i protect 4(j, the 

king onely 'Lordc of the sea. 

" Frceborne goods the king makes theyme alien, and 
therefore he may have a fine for that. 
'■ So strange goods he makes theyme denisons. 
"The coniO law cannot iudge of m<<* at Sea, and there- 
fore the law setts no rule. 

" In what kinde hathe he imposcil Xot as any other 
before hym. 
" By w.iy of penalty npO a reslraynt precedent. 
"M"ngn:Cart. If tbey be not openly rcslrayned — so 
no frecdome of trade granted except they be not re- 
" Bati's Iinpos was upO a reslraynt you shall bring in 

• These two precedents had been quoted by Fuller 
(fol. 44. b.). The second is also mentioned bv llakewill 
(«u/e 7n«/«,ii. 431.) 

t ?"noL" 

t Dow this mean that Telverton expressed donbts as 
to the correctness of his statement ; or that the reporter 
jraj not ijtAte «urc of the accuracy of his notes in this 

no Currants. If you doe you shall pay lo mach, 4 E. 4. 
f. Si. 1 II. 7. f. 10. Allom. 

"The Judges could not help theyme. But the lawe of 
nations must help theyme, 2 E, 3. Urytons Cose. The 
thrc good in poynt of lawe. But remedied by the atatnle 
of 9 I". 3. 

" Theisc Were the evill lollca taken by corporatia. 

"If a statute be made that the kinge shall not govern 

the trade uf merchants but in tbis manner: the statute 

were voyd, for it concerncs tlio king in liia \itvnt^ and 

- government, 21 E. 1., quid est talent? go* askatbe 
toync. (^jggg_ 

"A privy scale to the officers of cnery porle is an open 
Keslrayut. It is open to tbcymo whomo it conccniea. 
There needs no prociain. Fitz.* ne exeas regno. 

" 10 Uiz. Slynes, the prerog of the kinge to haTa ro>-aU 
mynes is not grounded uiiO tbc comon law«. ^o aiUaU* 
iu the coiho lawe coiicerng that matter. 

" It stands w'i> reaso of government oportet sdapUfi 
politeia legibus et no leges puliteiw ; that is to be niuto- 
stood In cases where the comO lawe hathe Kttt dowM • 
certavne order. 

" "f boe the Iinpoi be excessive yet none can iadga It 
but the king, no more then the restraynt." 

It may perhaps make this somewhat drj ptpcr 
more interesting', if I add the substance of a \fm 
notes which I have made on the history of the 
imposition on currants. These details, some of 
which will probably be new to most readerii al- 
though they certainly throw no new light on the 
legality of the imposition, certainly place the cha- 
racter of the guvcnimcnt in a more faTonntUe 
light, and arc opposed to the popular notion thst 
in the early part of the seventeenth century all 
public men were either great heroes or great 

In 1575, a patent was nruiitcd * to Acerbo IT*' 
lutcUi, a native of Lucca, giving him the Mb 
right of importing into England currants and oil 
from the Venetian territories. On the strength 
of this hu exacted from all English and forein 
merchants fines for licences to curry on the trade. 
The VenetianM, dis-tatistied that their merchanii 
should be compelled to pay Velutelli for pcrmil* 
sion to carry their own productions into Englandi 
set a duty of 5,t. 6rf. per cwt. on currants exported 
from their ports in other than Venetian bottomi^ 
with other duties on oil and wine. At the re- 
([ue.^it of the £n<;lish merchants a similar intpoet 
was laid by Elizabeth upon these products if 
landed in England from foreign ships.f 

Soon after this Velutclli's patent was cancelled, 
and a new one granted to a very small number of 
Engli:<h merchants, who were formed into a com* 
pnny having tlie monojjoly of the Venetian trade. 
The duty on currants imported in foreign Tesself 
was thus changed into a total prohibition. Thii 
patent expired in I SOS, and the company wit 

* B. P. (>., Donic;!tic, Memoranda, April 11, 1606* wL 
XX. 25. 

t S. P. O., Domestic, Statement by the Levant Coa- 
pany, Feb. 1604, vol. vi. G9.; ObierratioDi on two 
Special Grievances, Nov. 1604, vol. z. f7. 




hthen incorporated with uiotber siuoll company of 
'Turkey aiei-ch;mts, uiHk-r tlie title of "Tbe Com- 
ipany of Merchants of the Levant."* In the 
' cjurw of iLe yeur 1600 i-ompluints were uiiide to 
till* que£U (Lilt the comfiany liud interpreted tlie 
le in their patent wLicii gave the solo right of 
/ing on the trade to themselves, and to such 
an* as they might licence, to mean that they 
' might levy a duty of Us. Grf. per cwt. upon all cur- 
ranu imported. It was represented to Elizabeth 
that it was never intended that » few I^ondon 
merchants should levy cu8tom:i' duties for their 
own profit, and that to allow such proeeedinga any 
longer would be derogatory to the honour of her 
crown. Tbe question was never decided. The 
f^orernnient, taking advantage of a technical lluw 
in the cbitrter, pronounced it to have been null 
and void from the beginninj?. As 80on as this 
WW made known, the queen w3.h pressed by many 
inerchants who were nut. members of the com- 
pany to throw the trade open. They declared 
tint tbey were willing not only to support the 
ambaawdor at Constantinople, and tbe uonsuls at 
the different porta pf the Levant, a burden which 
bad hitherto lallen upon the company, but that 
they were ready, in addition to these expense*, to 
pi\y to the qncen the duty of 5s. 6</. per cwt. which been for some time extorted from theui by 
the con»pany for their own private udvantaae. 

The queen, however, preferred barguinins; with 

' tk« old company, and granted them u new ehur- 

trr, in which their monopoly was confirmed to 

thetn on consi<leration of an annual payment to the 

I e3tcfae<^acr of 4000/. 

Ihiring the few remnining years of Elisabeth's 
reign the Venetian trade was uiiprospterous. The 
Venetiani jmt new restrictions upon the export 
of currants in order to favour their own navi^ra- 
tion. Consequently when, soon al'ier James's ac- 
cesaion, the proclamation against monopdies was 
ianted, whilst the other great trading companies 
reiaainc^l in (lossession of their privUeKes, the 
Levant company appeared at the councd table, 
and voluntarily surrendered their charter as a 
monopoly. In return, tbey were excused the 
payment of the'tr arrears, which amounted to 

The forfeiture of this charter caused a defl- 
cien«y in the kin^j's revenue. It waa only natural 
that, the trade being now open, the council should 
recur to tbe old imposition which had been ori- 
ginally levied before the formation of the Vene- 
tian company. Tliey could hardly expect any 
, oppotttiun from the merchants. Those who were 
members of the company bad, in IGOO, ex- 
ed their readiness to pay tbe tax, and those 
whn were mfmberi had tor years exacted it for 
their own profit. But before taking any stops they 

T>ie pntrnt is priiite<l in llakluyt (e4. Ia9<j), ii. 'i9b. 
[Se* also Fl«mtog'BJu<lginent in tbe 8tat« Trials, ii. 991. 

determined lo take a legal opinion upon their 
right to impose. That opinion being favourable 
to the claim of the crown, tbuy directed the Trea- 
surer lo roiinpose the former duties.* 

Nor was the consideration shown to the mer- 
chants limited to pardonin<{ the .arrears of their 
debt. It was not customary for iliein to pay suck 
duties immcdiiitely upon landin;,' ihuir goods, but 
to give bonds for theii- payment at a future time. 
Kcorly n year jiossed, ami the payuicnis due upon 
the bonds which had been given since the impo- 
sition of the new duties were not forthcoming. It 
was In vain that the council pressed the Treasurer 
to call for these puymeutB.f Uc vri^a met with objec- 
tions, and declarations of inability to pay. Upon 
this, in Nov, 1604, the whole subject was once 
more taken into consideration^, iiud a dischargQ 
was granted to the merchants of the whole of their 
arrears for eighteen mnnilis, which were esti- 
mated at about 6000/. This was dune upon the 
understanding that the impositiou should be paid 
in future. 

In 1605 the state of the Turkey trade was once 
more brought before the government. Though 
the monopoly bad ceased, tbe Levant company 
still continued to trade as a private company ; 
but it was no lunger able to su|ip<ii't tbe ambassa- 
dor and the consuls. Debts hud in cousequ<;nce 
been incurred in the East, and fears were enter- 
tained lest the Turkish untkorilies should seize 
the buildings and property of the cunip.iny.§ 
The mercbnnls requested Salisbury to obtain for 
them the reestablishment of the company on ix 
new footing. Once more Salisbury took measures 
to be sure that he was not about to do anything 
illegal. He hod heard that it had been lately said 
that the establishment of any trading coui|>any at 
all was illegal. He accordingly wrote to Chief 
Justice Fophnm-H Having received on answer 
from Topbam favourable to the powers claimed 
by the crown, he obtained from the king letters 
patent constituting the new company .^f The new 
company was formed upon a plan which was now 
favoured by the government. The company itself 
was to have a monopoly of the Levant trade, but 
it waa to be open to all merchants who were 
ready to pay a certain sum towards the expenses 
of the trade, and csjiccially to defray the salary 
uf the Mnbcasador and the consuls, and to make 

* S. P. O., Domestic, tbeCoancil totbeLordTressarer, 
Oct. 3lBt, 1603. vol iv. 4U. 

t S. P. O., DomesUc, Docquct of letter, Jaly 23ril, 

1 S. P. O., Domestic, Doc(ja«t of discharge, Nov. lOtb, 

§ a P. 0., Domaitlo, R. SUpnt to Salisbury, Jaly 
8lh, 1605, vol. XV. 4. 

j{ S. P. 0., Domestic, Stliabary lo the Chief Josticcv 
Sept. 8th. 1603, vol. xv. 64. 

\ S. P. O., DomesUc, Warrant, D««.. U\.Vi,\«M5>.'«^. 




up the present which it vas customnry to give to 
the Sultan at certain intervals of time. In order 
that the new companj might start fairly, the king 
directed that the sum of 5322/., being the amount 
which he was to receive for one year from the 
farmers to whom the new impositions had been 
lately let, should be handed over to the company 
as a free gift. 

The council probably thought that their diflS- 
cnlties were at ah end. In the course of two 
years and a half they had cither given or remitted 
to the merchants no less than 13,322/. They were 
soon <lestined to be undeceived. John Bate, as is 
well known, very soon after this last arrangement 
ordered his servant to drive nway a cart full of 
currants from the water-side before it had been 
examined by the officer of the customs. Bate was 
sent for to the council table, and declared that his 
servant had only acted by his orders ; he had 
given those orders because he considered the im- 
position to be illegal. Upon this he was com- 
mitted to the Marshalsea for contempt of the 
king's officers.* 

Bate bos been celebrated by all modem writers 
as the hero of the resistance to illegal taxation. 
It is possible that with a change of circumstances 
his views may really have undergone a change ; 
but when we remember that he was one of the go- 
vemors of the old Levant company, and that he had 
therefore for years been in the habit of levying this 
very tax of which he now complained for the pri- 
vate profit of himself and his fellows, we can 
hardly be surprised that the government looked 
with some suspicion upon this old monopolist who 
came forward as the champion of freedom of 
trade the moment that his pockets were touched. 

They were determined, however, to act in a 
strictly legal way, and allowed the case to be 
brought for trial in the Exchequer Court with' as 
little delay as possible. The judgment which 
was there pronounced has been long given up by 
all lawyers as utterly untenable, botli in technical 
law, and in constitutional principle. But it is one 
thing to object to the logic of the judges : it is 
another thing to assert, as is often done, that they 
yielded to the temptations or the threats of the 
government to give a judgment at variance with 
their own opinions. 

Of such t«mplutions or threats being made use 
of to influence them not a single proof has ever 
been adduced. The details which I have now 
given will, I think, make us pause before we be- 
lieve that they were used by a government which 
had been peculiarly anxious to deal considerately 
with the merchants, and which, by requiring legal 
opinions upon every step which it took, sliowed 
that it was desirous not to overstep the limit* of 
the law. 

But, it is said, the judges were removeable at 

* M, P. O^ Dpmeetic, Memonnda, April llth, 1606, 
ro/. XX. 26, 

the king's pleasure. No doubt they were in 
theory ; but were they so in practice ? I believe, 
and, if I am wrong, Mh. Fobs will correct me, 
that no single judge had ever lost his place aince 
the accession of Elizabeth.* Men are influenced 
much more by the facts than by the theory of 
their position. 

When their conduct is contrasted with that of 
those judges who, at the beginning of Elizabeth's 
reign, delivered, in a somewhat similar case, s 
judgment not sufficiently favourable to the pre- 
rogative to allow of its being quoted by the govern- 
ment, it seems as if the true solution of the difficulty 
would be apparent. 

The judges who were unfavourable to the pre- 
rogative had never heard of such a claim being 
Eut forward. They had grown up without ever 
earing it once mentioned. It struck them u t 
novelty, and under that impression they read their 

The judges in 1607 had always been accni- 
tomed to sec customs collected without author!^ 
of parliament. Those customs were not, indeed 
of any great amount-, but they were of Buffieieat 
importance to make them look upon the opiaioB 
of the opponents of the prerogative as a noveltj ; 
and in the eyes of judges all novelties are erron. 

It is remarkable that Hakewill, who, in 1610^ 
was one of the ablest opponent* of the claim* of 
the crown, declareil in the House of Commom 
that when he heard the judgment delivered in the 
Exchequer Court, he accepted it as good law ; and 
that Coke, who was afterwards distinguished br 
his advocacy of the rights of parliament, g^ave bu 
opinion that although it was illegal to lay nidi 
impositions for the sake of raising the revenue, 
yet for the regulation of trade it waa lawful for 
the king to impose, and in particular that tbb 
imposition was legal.f 

That Coke's o[»inion had at an earlier period 
gone even beyond this is probable from a paper in 
the Irish Series in the S. P. 0. In 1586 a duty 
upon wine had been granted by the Irish statute 
28 Eliz. c. 4. It was enacted that this grant abodd 
be in force for ten years only. Neverdielefii 
when the ten years were past, the govemmoit 
continued to levy the duty. About 1604, the 
city of Dublin sent over to England a eoUcO' 
tion of grievances. In the answer sent to. then 
occurs the following clause ; — 

" For the impost of wines his ma*** may impoM th« saiM 
ir«>out any statute." | 

* The only possible exception is the cose of Chirf 
Baron ManwooO, vrho was in 1592 called in qnestioBtMl 
for any political ofTence, but upon complaint that be bal 
(grossly misconducted himself in the NUnHae <rf bis ofln. 
It is not known whether he actually lost bis plaea. At 
all event* he died before his successor was appdatsd>— 
FOS.S v. 321. 

t Beports, xii. 83. 

X Undated, bot supposed by Mr. Hamiltoa. the aalbsr 
^ ot Ibe U%,C«il«nd«T, to have been written In ISOi. 

IAuo. 11. "SO.] 



, Ilia answer is si<;ried bj Popham and Cok(^ and 

Ei to slioiv (but at an earlier period he enter- 
d opiniuns still more stron-^Iy in fnvour of the 
rogntive thnn he did when ho gave his quali- 
I OMent to the imposition on currants. 
.he«e Inots and arguments seem to me to prove 
t the men who led the government into an 
hd and unoon^tilutioDal oourje, did it with 
Mt intentions;, and without any idea ui' thi; 
U^ure of their procecdingB. 
^B S. R. GAaDiNBR. 

the author of thia argument was Sir James 
iitelckcjc, well-known for hia work upon plurali- 
, the MS. of whitih I have now before me, iit 
ition to hiB Liber Famelicius. The cause of 
king'5 displeasure was in Whiteloek's op- 
Itioo in parliament Xo the king's impositions 
lOul their assent ; and who presaged boldly 
le ill that afterwards befell liitn " in actiiijj 

the advice of his Attorney-Generalei, Nny in 
[land and Davies in Ireland; and to the latter 
le miut be attributed entirely the great mis- 
i committed by that monarch (Charles I.) in 
inpting under this illegal form of taxation to 
B mouey for his own purposes. 

r» order to get the nintter at rest, I have in my 
ections a very ancient original MS. dedicated 
B the KinfiB most excellent Muiestie," of which 
following is the title ; — 

An Ar((um«nt upon the Questions of Impositiona, 
lied Kiiil dlgetled into Sundry Chapters. By S' John 
lea Knight Serjeant at Liw.'hia Ma" Attorney Gene- 
tnd af his learned Councoll for llie Kingdom of Ire- 
. Qui vecllg'«l veutigal, cui tributum tribulum," 

lie dedication to the king states : — 

rhU quetticrii in laying impositioas uppon Mercban- 

1 oofbt not to have beene inadv or moved tit alt; 
b«it beiof; it bath been stirred and debated in Partia- 
t, it is now ttecome an Argument of such dienity and 
Drtance a« the best able amongst your servanU 
led in tbe law may well iinploye their best learDing 
be discosaing thereof: Abr my part though I tind 
life unable to handle tbis noble question as tbe 
;ht and worthineu thereof reqtiiretb, yet have 1 
n iondrye occasions, arising in tbe course of my ser- 
eoUected inoh Notes, and drawne together such tai- 
lU aa mtLy be« of use in tbe building of a fortretse iu 
laTenca of this prerogative. And sure I am that if 
HMicstie will voacbsare to cast yo' eye uppoa Iheis 
ecoM, that yo' judgement will make a far better use 
applicacOn thereof then I who haue gathered the 
I can possibly doe. Theia little sparkes of knowledge 
1; taken into yo* maiestie* cooiultatioii will instantly 
jplie and rue ia(o a flame, and so give a great ligkl 
he clearing of this question. This learning wcU in 
hands is but a spade, in ya' Maietit.s baad will 
ne a acepter. I baue onely like tbe [loore Indian 
ed npp the Oare Myne wch being brought into tbe 
ft lijnl and refined there becomes part of tbo Royall 


natural method. It is somewhat long and in Mukiloquio 
non deest peccutuiu, suith Solomon — It is also mixt with 
soinfi ri;a«oii^ of state wherein a Coinon Inwvnr ini^v 
easily make a Soelesismc: jet such as it is, my zejle tu 
ailv.iuce your Maicities service halli moveil mee to pre- 
sent to yu' Ma"', wilb all bumblcnesi anri wiih sume 
hope that theia dutifull paincs shall purchase a pardon for 
the errors therein coifiitted 

" By yo' Ma" unprolitable 

" Servaut and humble Subivct 

"Jo: DAniBS." 

This MS i.i divided into thirty-two chapter*, 
and is written upon a hundred lcnve« on both sides 
save the fourth page, the dedication being pre- 
fixed to the title; the paper on which it is written 
has n water-mark of a crescent upon an Italian 
tirn. The blaze of light thus then unhappily 
struck very shortly afterwards ft'd the flames of 
civil discord, which ended in that unfortunate and 
ill-Ailvised monarch's losing nut only bis crown 
but hia life, and eventually his family the throne 
of this kingdom. 

M.iy it therefore still prove indeed a beacon 
which should not soon be lost sight of, and that 
by Sir John Uiivies Charles I. was led to com- 
(iiit this great mistake in the question of imposl- 
tioiv* without the sanction arnl authority of his 
parliament, which Warwick, Hampden, Sidney, 
Pym, and others so resolutely an<l su<!ceasfully 
opposed. J. W. PYcaorr. 

[This work by Sir John Davies was published in lliae, 
entitled The Quettityn concemiitg Impnaitions, Tonuage, 
Poumiafft, Cuilomt, iv. fully stateil and argued from 
Reason, Law, and Policy : dedicated to King James in 
tbe latter end of his reign. By Sir John Davies, His then 
Majesties Attourney Generall. Load. 165<>, 9vo. Carta 
{lliit. of England, iv. lili.) appears to have seen the 
original M.S. ot this treatise in the anchor's handwriting ; 
but from his transcript of a passage there is a slight vari- 
ation. Another manuscript, with the same title as oar 
correspondeal's copy, is in the Harl. MS. 6241, consisting, 
as ia the priuted work, of thirty-three chapters. — Kd. ] 

|*Onuri res ipsa negat cootenta doceri.' 

Flight I can g^ve it ia ' Lucidus Ordo ' by breaking 
|to 'Capita reruin,' and casting it into a playne and 

PltDLICATION Ot UaN!SS ('i"''' S. X. 18. 79.) —^ 

Clearly it lias been thruu^h u little officiousnesj OQ^ 
the part of the Queen's Printers that doubts have 
arisen about tlie proper time fur publishing banns 
of marriage. Iu the church I attended at Lon- 
don, 1 know we liad two old Prayer-books in the 
choir, of the end nf the eighteenth or beginning 
of tbe iiirifteenth century, m which the rubric at 
tlte coniinchcement of the Marriage Service dis- 
tinctly laid down that " the Banns of all that are 
to be married together niuf^l be published in the 
church three several Sundays, during the time of 
Morning Service, before the sentences of the Of- 
fertory, or of Evening Service (if there be no 
Morning Service) immediately after the Second 

I have not the books now by mc, and therefore 
cannot say decidedly that these are the precise words^ 
but at all events the Un« o^ ^vk\j\\t«.V\wv \a -kv^x 

; J 




definitely fixed to be between the Nicenc Creed ; 
and the Offertory, and this direction is corroborated | 
by the rubric alter the Nicene Creed, which, in 
the books of wliich I am speaking, names amongst ; 
other things to be then proclaimed by the curate , 
baniit of marriage. I 

The alterations in the rubrics have evidently I 
been made by the printers without authority ; and, i 
therefore, the original rule still holds good, viz. I 
that the banns shall be published during the time . 
of Morning Service (t. e. in the accustomed place), | 
and of Evening Service (when there is no Alorn- 
ing Service) "inunediately after the Second Les- i 
son." Tills dirifction is in no degree nullified by i 
the statute 26 (tco. II., and in natural deference I 
to old and universal custom, and with the valu- | 
able authority of the late Baron Aldcrson, no i 
clergyman need, I think, hesitate for a moment as . 
to the course he shoidd adopt in this really very 1 
plain and simple matter. Edmund Srduing. 

I am not aware of any other legal interpreta- 
tion of the Act of Parliament, respecting tlic time 
of publication, than that of Baron Alderson. But 
the whole question is discussed at length in that 
repertory of authorities and facts and precedents, 
A. J. Stephens' e<lition of the Book of Common 
Prayer (vol. ii. p. 1151.), 8vo., Lond. 1850. His 
view coincides with the dictum of Baron Alderson 
as to the proper tiiuu. E. M. 


4-25.)— Col. Hobert Hammond married a daughter 
of John ILimpdon, who, according to Mr. Noble 
in his Life of Cromwvll, took for his second wife 
the Lady Lctitia Vaclioll of Coley, and that she 
was buried at Great liumpden, Bucks, 29 March, 
1G66. Lady Yachcll was the daughter of Sir 
Francis Knowll;!, Knight, and married, 23 Sept. 
161G, Sir Thomas VaohcII, who died July, 1638. 
(Goafes' Histori/ of Heading.) Fuller, in his 
WorlkiM, ii. 227., says, Sir Francis KnowUs mar- 

ried Cary, sister to Henry Lord Hunsdou 

(and cousin-gcrman to Queen Elizabeth, having 
ifary Bullen for her mother). Sir Francis had , 
with other children Sir Francis, w^ho was living ] 
at, and chosen a member of, the lata Long Par- I 
liamcnt : since dead, aged ninety-nine, the father 
of the Lady ].ietitia Vachell. Burke's landed ' 
Gentry gives no daughter to Mary Bolcyn (sister ] 
to Queen Anne Boleyn) and William Carey, but 
only mentions Henry, created Lord Ilunsdon by | 
Quoun Elizabeth. i 

Thus the descent would be from Bolcyn, — Cary ' 
who marries KnowUs, who marries Hampden, j 
whose daughter marrie<l Hammond. This is ' 
plain, but two doubts arise. 1st. Was the daugh- . 
ter of Hampden by his first or second wife? ' 
Snd. Was Hampden's second wife the Lady Ta- ; 
cfaell t Mr. Coates thinks not, as in the i-egister ; 
o/' St. Mary'n i$ the fodomng entry : " Burial, ; 

1666, Mch. 29. The Lady Vachell." The re- 
gisters of the parish of Great Hampden have been 
examined, but without any record of the inter- 
ment mentioned by Mr. Noble. In a book on the 
dc.ith of that much-bewailed gentleman CoIoDel 
llobcrt Hammond, by Dr. Simon Ford of Read- 
ing, Dec. 5, 1654, is a preface and dedication to 
the noble and worthily-honoured ladies and gen- 
tlemen, the Lady Cecilia Knollys, the Lady Le- 
tice Vachell, the Lady Anne Fye, Mrs. Letice 
Hampden *, Mrs. Elizabeth, Margaret, and Mary 
Hammond, Mrs. Trevor, and all the rest of the 
noble families concerned in that late sad stroke of 
Providence. K. J. FrmtOBE. 

AisLABiE OF Studley ('i""* S. X. 8.) — ^It u ststcd 
in Charlton's BwghUty, p. 189. that Wm. Aialatne, 
the husband of Elizabeth Cecil, on her deatli 
married for his second wife, Elizabeth, dautfhter of 
Sir Charles Vernon, Kt.,und died in 1781,l£aniig 
issue by both bis wives. In the pedigree of the 
Cecil family in Blore's Rutland, p. 81., only ooe 
child by Elizabeth Cecil is named, Elizabeth, iriw 
was married to Chas. Ailanson of Branham Big- 
gin, CO. York, Esq. and died s. p. J. r. 

P. K. may find the information which be 
requires in the pedigree of Earl de Grey lad 
Ripon, in connexion with the following eloei : — 

Fountains Abbey was in the "Meaaeagcr" 
family till 1767, when it was sold to William Aii- 
labie, E.sq., of Studley ; and on the death of the 
late Mr. £. S. Lawrence in 1845, it cann to Eul 
do Grey (by will). (Abbeys of Yorkskin.') 

In the church of Patrick Brompton, ia the bk^ 
nument of William Lawrence, Esq., onlj aOB of 
Wm. Lawrence, by his wife Anna Sopnia, the 
daughter and co-heir of William Aislabie, Eiq.,of 
Studley. (Hint, of Richmond.') 

The above Mr. Lawrence was heir preanmptin 
of Studley Park and Ilackfall : he waa oouaa- 
german to Sir Soulden Lawrence. Spalaiw. 

JUD.KU6 Odor (1" S. vii. 295., &c) — 
" r.n 13C3, nnc memorable eonftfrence eat lim dtnat 
le rot et la reine d'Arafion, cntre lo sirant rabbin ZtckM 
et le fr^rc Paul Cirinque, domeniean tri» tfmdit. Qoiad 
le docteur jnif eut cit^ le Toldos Jeachat, le Tannm, Id 
arcliivcs du Saiih^rin, Ip Nisanchoa Yetoa, 1* lUm, 
&c., la reinc flnit la dispute en lui demandaat |wj am m kt 
jniji pniiiait." — Victor llago, Litl^ralmrt it PkUaK^ 
Mtlia, Bruxetles, 1837, t. i. p. 62. 

Heine gives a poetical yersion of the contro- 
versy, at tlic end of which, tlic queen being aiked 
to decide, says : — 

" Welcher rcclit hat, weiss leh nicht — 
Docli cs will mich schier bedOnken, 
YiBM dcr Rabbi und der MBndi, 
DasB sic nlle bcide stinken." 

Romanzert, p. 26S., Haflabnrg', ItfL 
Where is the original story f H. B. C 

* This aiiniUritjr of Christian BaaMi aagr ksyacaai' 
Mr. Noble's «mg, if it ia on emr. 

laXAira. 11. 'flO.T 




"AuJtT Sally" (a-* S. %. 46.; — Aunt Sdly 
is the beroine of a populitr Negro melody, in wliicU 
tba old lutly meets with several ludlcroiu adven- 
tures ; whence, I suppose, she hus given her name 
to tbe DOW prevailiug piistiinc. T. Scott. 

Kcs.iT Or Affijctioru ('l"* S. ix. 493,; x. 95.) 
— I nnj anxiuus to correct as soon as possible an 
error in mj stateuieiit lost week. The two small 
trscl» have been acquired bif the Bodleian. AVheQ 
I inquired some iveeks back the librarian wn» 
aheeiit, and the sub-librarian thought they Imd 
not hiid such nn addition. Mr. Cose, under dnte 
31 July, wiiies: "Dr. Bandinel has returned, aud 
has j list fouiiil the little Monson bof>ks." He then 
gived particular* which show the editions are the 
■ame .is mine of 1647, and not, as I had hoped, the 
quartos of lOfil. They are "in the original plnin 
ciair dress, and belonged o.nee to Vincent AuicottJ, 
ex dono dotnini Grantliam." Both are namca of 
emtnty contcmpornrics of Sir John Monson. 


Biutciu Hall. 

The Father Rector at Bosblu (2°'' S. x. 
28.) — If neither Mr. GARDrsBB nor Mr. J. G. 
Nichols answers this Query, be pleased to Inform 
Mb. E. Vestris that the letter in question wns 
addressed to the "Father Keefor at Bruxeile.=," 
and was taiil to have been found in the Jesuits' 
College in Clcrkenwell, broken up by Sec. Coke 
early in 1028. Mb. J. G. Nichoi.8 published in 
lS5*i in the Camden Miscellany, vol. ii., an ac- 
couot of this incident, entitled "The Discovery of 
the Jesuits' College at Clerkenwell in March, 
1627—8 ; and a Letter found in their Hou«c (as 
i), directed to jthe Father Rector at Brux- 
Mb. Vkktris may he safely referred to 
itis able paper for an elucidation of the subject to 
wbivh bis communication relates. I uiay add that, 
MOce Mr. J, 6. Nichols published his Addition 
to tlic paper I have mentioned (in vol. iv. of the 
Camden MitceUany), one more of the illu»tratiTe 
paper*, rclijrred to in the Narrative of Sec. Coke 
Las been found in the Stale Paper OQice. It is 
the one marked L, entitled "Poynts for the An- 
naall letlero, beside those which arc in the Rale 
De. Fitnitula tcribendi ; " B, C, and O, are still 
missinir, but I make no doubt they will ultimately 
be recovered. John Bruce. 

Civic Hcstiko (2'"' 8. x. 4?.)— The Lord 
Mayor of London was by charter privileged to 
hunt in Middlesex, £«sex, and SuiTcy, and for 
that puriKwe a kennd of hounds mm mninrained 
tl ' xpense. The Common-Hunt ranked 

:i by ollice, and took precedence next 

I '-■■•rcr. Ludicrous descriptions of 

III Mils to the solemn hunting fes- 

tiv;iL ;.; :„.. ...^ ..; London aljound in the litera- 
ture of the Klizabclfaun and subsequent agci, 

In the Spectator there occurs an amusing allu- 
sion to the showy trappings of the city hunt. 

" Mr. Graves, the City Huntsmnn," was, I be- 
lieve, succeeded in his office by Mr. Slay Hill. 

William Hone, in his Every-datj Book, lamented 
that the office was in danger of desuetude. 

I think the kennel was in the neighbourhood of 
Finsbury or Moorficlds. IV. C, 

The office of Common Hunt is of ancient origin, 
and it mentioned in very early civic MSS. In the 
34lh Henry VI. a sum of money was granted to 
the Coiumon Huntsman for the hire of a house for 
his dogs and horse*, and a goodly number of per- 
sons was appointed to go with the Common lluiit 
to the chose (according to the custom and liber- 
ties of the city hitherto approved and used) within 
the land of the abbot and convent of Siiatford 
and neighbouring places (lipping Forest). Twenty 
shillings wad granted in the reign of Edward IV. 
to the (Common Hunt for the payment of the rent 
of the kennel in the Moor. The several suc- 
ceeding monarchs took a lively interest in the 
appointment of the huntsman, as their numerous 
letters to the civic authorities show ; at one lime 
recommending, and at other timeii disapproving 
of the gentlemsu appoinlctl. In 1540, tiie 32 II. 
VIII. the king recomniended one person, tiie 
queen anotlier, and the lord chancellor another. 
The kenucl stood near the present QUI Street 
Road, and they evidently hunted the stag, which 
custom is still roainluined by the Londoners on 
Euster Monday (Epping) Hunt. The oflioe of 
the Common Huntsman and the Common Hunt«- 
mnu'g Young Man has now been abolislied for 
•ome years past. W. H. Overall. 

Maltland, in his list of the Lord Mayor's Offi- 
cers, names " The Common Hunt" as having a 
great salary or perquisites, and with the title of 
Esquire. At civic dinners he attends the Lord 
Mayor, dressed as a huntsman, booted and spurred. 

G. Opfoh. 


(2""' S. ixt 364. 428.) — Your correspondent Mb. 
Wii.i.iAMSOii asks for instances of excommunica- 
tion from the Protestant church in this country. 
The following from a register-book of the [ 
of Ecdcsfielirin Yorkshire may interest him ; — 

" 17-lU, April 30. Will Koshby ftwn workhouse, «ll«d 

The page bears the signature of " W. Steer, 
Vicar." J. H. G. 

- Pbb Cbntom Siom (1" 8. ix. 451.)— This si^n 
(%), it ajipears to me, ia a corruption o{ pjc, 
the initial letters of per centum with n stroke be- 
tween them. This form of contraction is, I be- 
licve. not uncommon ; and the alteration of the two 
letters into two oV, ia readily to be undatiVwA. 




[2^S,X.Ano. IL-M. 

Church Towkhs (2»« S. x. 56.) — This Note 
tuggeits to me a superstition about chancels. In 
some churches the chnncel is in the centre of tlie 
cable of the nave, but a little on one side, as at 
Shipiueadow, Sufiblk. I have heard that this 
was done intentionally, because our Saviour, when 
on the cross, is supposed to have hung his head 
on one side. Which? What is the authority for 
this belief? 

I, too, have observed that in some churches 
one tower is not quite so high as the other ; but 
still in many they are equal. 

In spite of the pretty tradition mentioned by A. 
C. M. I cannot help thinking either that they 
were built at different periods, or that the builders 
" did not first reckon the cost." It seems very 
easy to invent symbols of this kind, but very 
difficult to find any one who can understand them. 

G. W. W. 

Church Chancels (S"* S. x. 68.) — As Dr. 
Rock mentioned, in the first part of his able de- 
fence of the men of the Middle Ages, the deflec- 
tion of the chancel to the north (or touth) was 
doubtless intended to represent the inclination of 
our blessed Lord's head while hanging upon the 
cross. Examples of this feature in old churches 
are to be found also in S. Peter and Paul, Wan- 
tage, the Cathedral of S. Chad, Lichfield, S. Mi- 
chael, Coventry, and Patrington. It has also been 
conjectured that the slant in the plan of the chan- 
cel was intended to indicate the exact spot in the 
horizon from whence the sun arose on the morning 
of the dedication. Eduunu SEDDraa. 

" It may here be observed that some churches diverge 
northward at the chancel arch from a true line drawn 
east and west. A very remarkable example is at St. 
Michael's, Cuventry; mure frequently the direction is 
southward, as at tiotham, Sussex. The symbolical reason 
is that the inclination of our Lord's head on the cross is 
so represented." — Himtt on the Study of Ecch$, Architec- 
ture and Antiquity, Cambridge, 1843, p. 21. 

E. M. 

The obliquity in the direction of the chancels 
of many of our old churches is described by eccle- 
sioloj;ists by the term Orientation. It is under- 
stood to symbolise the inclination of our Lord's 
head while hanging on the cross ; the direction is 
usually towards the south, but some diverge to- 
wards the north. The theory is that the chancel 
points towards that part of the horizon where the 
sun rises on tlic day of the patron saint. An in- 
vestigation of this theory is very desirable, and 
the pages of " N. & Q." would be a good means of 
communicating the results of any observations 
which your readers may be disposed to make for 
its elucidation. John Maclean. 


Antbobus (2"* S. X. 27. 96.) —When a name 

occurs in Domesday it is safer to build etymology 

oo the Norman or Saxon spelling than the modem 

corruption. In the present case this wottld be 

I doubt not that the two first syllables r«>reteot 
the Welsh " Hentre " or " Hendre." We b>ve 
" Hendre," a well known seat^ in Monmouthihira 

As to the "bus" a Cambrian should decide 
whether it may be one of the corroptions of Ueka, 
Upper or Over. Antrobus is in OeerwhMej. 

With respect to ramifications, the contimuitioD 
of the Antrobus pedigree was entered at the 
Heralds' College by Mr. Townsend, for the late 
Sir Edmund Antrobus, and may be eaaily con> 
suited. LANCABTUBms. 

My first impression was that this surname — 
which is derived from the local name — might be 
from Antar'a hus or house. The local name, how- 
ever, was anciently written Entrehu*, which seemi 
to explain itself (i.e. Entre-boi*). Cf. the French 
surnames Entrecasteaux, Entrecolles, Entremoot, 
&c. R, S. Chabhock. 

Cold Harbour (2'>o S. ix. 139. 441.) —Bishop 
Hall, describing a tenant refused a renewal of hu 
lease, remarks : — 

" Or thence thy starved brother live and die 
Within the «>1d Cole-IIarhour sanetaaiy : 
Will one from Scots-banke bid but one grot* man, 
My old tenant may be turned out of dore." 

Virgidemiartim, book ▼. 

Query, Scots-banke ? 6. H. K. 

Lodge Family (2°* S. x. 69.)— In reply to the 
Query respecting the wills specified in the Shak- 
spcare Society volume of Lodge, I have no doubt 
that G. H. K. will find them duly recorded in 
Doctors' Commons. D. L. 


Lines on a Pigeon (2""* S. ix. 483.) — These 
lines arc a parody on the following, which were 
set to music, as a glee for three voices, brDr. 
Benjamin Cooke, organist of Westminster Aobef, 
in August, 1771 : — 

" If 'tis joy to wound a lover. 

How much more to give him esse? 
When his passion we discover, 

Oh how pleasing 'tis to please. 
The bliss returns when we receive 
Transports greater than we ^ve," 

I regret my inability to furnish the name of the 
writer, but neither the composer's autograph scon 
nor the copy of it printed in Warren's Vocti Har- 
mony, supplies any information on the subieet. 

W. H. Husk. 

Poetical Periodicals (2°* S. ix. 198.)-^ 71( 
Poetical Register, edited by Mr. Davenport, wsi 
probably a periodical of the kind jour cdrreBpon- 
dent has inquired after. It was published (aa- 
nualiy) for several years from about 1600 to 1810 
or 1814. ILInui. 





\x. pastim.) — Hnving been lately shown a collec- 
tion of what, appeared to be execrpta, of a person 
accustomed to jot down wlintever he met with 
which he thoui;ht remmkable, I noticed a curious 
itatenient of the duration ol life of four incum- 
bents, and these consecutively lioldin<; one and 
the sJitne benefice. You have given some very 
obiiervable instances (1" S. xi. 407. &c,) of this 
nature, to which I consider these may reasonably 
be appended : — 

" Vic«f» of Worfield, ne»r Bridgtiorlh, <lif>c«M of Lich- 
fl«ld, from 1564 to 1763. a period of 11)9 Years. 
No. I. 1564 to 1608, bpinfc 44 rears. 

2. 1<V"8 to Um, ditto 6C dillo. 

3. 1BI!4 to 17117, ditto 4.1 ditto. 

4. 1707 to 1763, ditto nt! dilla 

Total - - - I 9k vears." 
may observe, en pajsoitt, that in some situationsi 
ch as the fens of Lincolnshire, or the marshes 
of the counties of Cambridge or Essc.x, incumbents 
desirous of dispensations l«r residence on their 
ciirex, on the score of unhealthine.<.'i of certain 
locftlilies and their tendency to abridge life, may 
liAvc very valid plea-i for such licence ; but one 
c«n aearce think a vic^ir of VVorfidd can allege 
L such an ai^iment |pr J^hvc of %\tep^ froia<lus 

■ charge. ^ *, ^.i. 

W^ DiATEiisAXON (2"* S. X. G9.) — The ReV. j: D. 

■ Macbrido, D.C.L., Principal of Miigdalen flnll, 

■ was the author ot Lectures erplanatory of (he Dia- 
W tttsariin, A copy of the ]8'i4 edition is in the 
B Bodleian Library ; but as I hare not access to 
H one in London, I cannot assist Mr. Llotd in 
P filling up the luciina in Ins copy. Dr. Mucbride's 

name is on the title of the 1848 edition of the Lec- 
tures. G. M. G. 

WiTTON (2"' S. X. 68.) — Has the first syllable 
any relation to " wicL," or " wych," as we call it, 
in connection with the ^alt districts ? I am think- 
ing of Witton, which is almost the parish church 
of Northwich ? Charles Pasla.m. 

SocBATRS (i"* S. X. 69.) — I have before me a 
I pmmplilet entitled Le Demon de Socrate, Paris, 
8vo., 1829, pp. 94. Tlie anonymous author of 
this proiluction is somewhat dispoiied to treat 
Socrates as a mystic, and labours to prove that 
his D<tmon is identical with the Dieti of l-'onelon. 
Tliis, however, can hardly be the work sought 
after by Fit/hopkiss, for neither does it nn- 
nwcr in bulk, in d.ile, nor in manner of Ircalmcnt, 
with his description. So far, too, a-i regards the 
I diafe, the followinit is at variance, Iht Demon de 
Soerale, par L. F. L6lut, Membre de rin.«titnt, 
Paris, 8vo., 185fi. Here the psychologiciil history 
of the philosopher is investigated, and an ntr.empt 
made to demonstrate mental alienaltou from his 
I belief in a speciid religious mi.'tition ; bis halluci- 


nations of bearing and sight; hii rcreries and 

ecstasies ; and his belief in prophetic power. The 
fouiulner.s of this deduction is attacked in a paper 
ill Forbes Winslow's Jourtud of Psychological Me- 
dicine for July, 1857, p. 4.54., reference to which 
in the absence of M. Lelut's book may afford 
satisfaction. If neither of those should be the 
book which FiTznoPKiiss desires to find, — and 
I liave some idea that the Litter n.imeil, in 
spite of the discrepancy of dates, may be, — that 
gentleman may still be gratified by the communi- 
cation of the titles of other dissertations upon the 
Kamc vexed question. William Batb««4 


I Iiave just observed in " N. & Q." an inquiry 
signed Fitzhopkiss. concerning a work entitled 
Dn Demon de Socralc. It is written by Dr. F. 
Lcliit, Member nC the Institute, and one of the 
physicians of the insane at the Hospital of the 
Siilpetriere, Paris. The first edition appeared in 
183fi, and has long been scarce. A new edition 
has recently appeared, and mi»y doubtless be pro- 
cured nt Bailliere'a in Kegent Street, who pub- 
lished in 1846 another work tif (he same author of 
a ^in)il;l^ chnracter, entitled VAmulette de Pascal, 
pour xerrir n r Uintoire de.i HnUnciiuilions. 


Thk RBV.E.n', Babnabd (a-" S.i.\;.94.2D0.)— 
It may inteiest some of your readers to know that 
this gentleman has been lost to literature and to 
the Church, not only twelve or fifteen, but twenty- 
five or thirty years. Also that his delightful little 
volume on the Saints and Martyrs connncmorntcd 
by our English Churcti, containing biographical 
notices of thcin, and hymns ufnm each of lliciii, 
wai published in the' year ]82li by F. C. & J. 
Kivinglon. of whom it may probably still be ob- 
tained. My own copy is, indeed, the only one I 
ever met with. But I have often thought that it 
deserved in be better knovni, and (if out of print) 
to be rejiriuted. The modest introduction to this 
classical little work, The Protestant Beadsman, i» 
duted "Brantingthorpe, Nov. 3. 18'21." 

J. JaM£«. 


CoiKTBV Tavebs Signs (2"« S. ix. 459.) — Me. 
Jeivitt iecTiis to, and Mr. Foddeb does mistake 
the '^ Mortitr and Pestle" when used as a sign in 
Derbyshire. It has no connexion with chemistry. 
It is much the same sort of thing as Robinson 
Crusoe tried to make when he wnnlcfi In convert 
some of his barley irt(» bread. It is, in fact, the 
apparatus used for rubbing or crushing, nofgriW- 
ivg, the wheat to make " fiirniity" or "' fruuiily " 
(ft very good mesii composed of crushed wheat 
boiled in milk, with cream, sugar, and spice after- 
wards added, much is "rice-milk"), a dish much 
patronised at Cbriatmns time. 

In the country A\titx\<i\« o^ "OutV'j^nt*, ■sX ^^\ 




events, this meaning wonid nniyersally attach to 
the sign of " Mortar and Pestle." C. T. 

Baftismai. Names (2"* S. ix. 475.) —In refer- 
ence to Mr.Tati.os'8 remarks on baptismal names, 
in which he mentions that the names of two at 
least of Job's three daughters may be occasionally 
seen, there is an old story in Devon of a clergy- 
man beinj; sorely puszled when he demanded the 
name of the infant about to be baptized by the 
answer, " Job's third daughter, Sir, pleatfe, Sir ; " 
as the reply was persisted in, he sent for a Bible 
to discover that Keren-happuch was the appella- 
tion intended. It was, I believe, because the 
dttughturs of Job are described as the fairest in 
all the land that the names were selected so frc- 
(|ucntly in the last century. 

In Cobhani church, Surrey, is the following : — 

"Here under lies interred the Dody of Aminailali 
Coojier, Citizen and Merchant Taylor of London, wlio 
lofte l>cliind him Uod-IIelpe tlicir (sir) only Sonne. Ilea 
departed this life the 33 .lune, lUlS." 

\T. P. L. 

ai we have said, it appeared with a Pi«fu!« by Lvthat ia 
1528. From this edition, compared with otben, Mr. 
Hotten has made the present English venion ; and widl 
his introductorj' notice of English books on the lama 
subject, and of the ancient cuitoms of the mendicant fiw* 
temity in this country, and the addition of a vocabnlaiy, 
this little volume, beautifully printed by Whiltlaglua, 
deserves a place among modem cariosities of litantnn. 

Books RKCF.n"Ki>. — 

Curiotilirt of yatural Hitlnnj. Second Seiitt, Bf 
Francis T. Uucliland, 'iX.K. (Uentley.) 

Thoso who recollect the First Scries of these Ckriosi- 
(iV*, will look with interest to the present continnatioB. 
Those who do not, will be prejudiced in favonr of tbb 
little volume by the author's nnectionate dedieatioo <rir it 
to the memory of his mother. But the book is so plea- 
sant and goAxiping, and written in ao popular a tone^ and 
on so popular a sabject, that one muy fairly anticipate 
for it ns large a share of public favour as that whidi tlie 
First Series so deservedlj' obtained. 

Easton and itt InhabitdHla. By the Hon. Eleanor Edeo. 

Tliis new volume of Bentley's Standard Hovelt Is a veiy 
fiftiiif: companion to that graccfiil story, TJke Stwd-Dt- 
taehed Iloute of Lady Theresa Lewis, lately pubUalud ta 
the same series. 

T/w Cuoh'f Evtry-Dajf Book, combiaiug JEamomff wtt 
EictUencc. (Bentley.) 
, A cheap translation of a popular French Cookeiy Book 

t&littWjmSliVli. found so useful in the famllv of the translator as to lead to 

NOTES ON BOOKS. A'* Xo""'^flto2£rJ(t 8lC ftHCTu Jli 

JUemoiri of the Life and Writiiig$ of the Right Bev. ^••W* »*' ^- -- - ^- 

Richanl Ilurd, D. D., I^rd Bithop of JVorcttter. Ifith* f^ 
a Sekctiou from hit CorretpondeHce and other nimubliihed' 
Papere. By the Sev. Francis Kilvert, M.A., Editor of 
The Literary Remaiui of Biihop WarburUm. (Bentley.) 
Thin volume tells in a plain straightforward manner the 
stor)- of the life of one, who, being the son of a Stafford- 
shire farmer, roso by his own merits to be Preacher of 
Lincoln's Inn, Preceptor to the Princes, Bishop of Lich- 
field and Coventry, nnd afterwards of Worcester, .and who 
declined to bo Arclibiahop of Canterbury j — who was the 
friend of Mosun and of Gray, and who acted as second in 
the numerous controversies of that literary athlete AVil- 
liam Warburton. Though, as Mr. Kilvert readily ad- 
mits, the work being the life of a man of letters, contains 
little of stirring incidents, yet, as a picture of one who, 
if he was " cold and cautious," wis yet distinguished by 
the refinement of his taste and the excellence of his judg- 
ment, and enriched our literature with woiks which won 
for their author an European reputation, it wilt well 
repav perusal, and our thanks arc due to Mr. Kilvert fur 
thepjiins which he has bestowed upon it: white. iUus- i vvrdi:<lhmatnmithu,l..n,nu<iUj,xmtktt,,fpmrnet»kat'ir»- 

J.J. fl. On tlieihiiiation It/ lirmhln arc oiiriAt.ILMt.tlt. 

K. Ix.iii. riic Jhirl. .V.V.S'.(MC<. atut S47S. onwM wonj^r V ■f«wt, 
lam OH* txtrnctJi/rom anci'~ftt ami mudrnt OffAprv bn Obodiak Od/jftff 

H-futm Hottiiim ifkmnrn. 

O. Lliitd. ,T. K. I.. Mi- potilicn-polrmictti wrttrr, circa MS-S. U 
Jtamii fioi/ti» A'. (.'. Ht*fvn> ui Kitdan:, 

Im-A. Thin i>t:o r.ivb^wt in Pr. Aorrf '« ElMyi i bmt tvo Prolegmi^ 
I. Written lin ilrfirr -r, I frK ml lur u Otmrrlii, mHileJ Thmttittmei 
St. Janio'n SIrert. 3. 7o Mc rviw^/i/ (/ Every Ona hu Lit FaalL — 
Xn ilrtnunt!'' i^h Ub o,;-'irs ,",i rh,- i-itlnmc <if Pncma, b^ KdtPtird W9tr- 

flic- uHil /'. J-\ J:hnir//init. Unw. I^'i7 J. i^. Jadkwum't OeM^A 

Mary: or I'lia..^^ I'l Liii: uiid l.uvc, 1^0-% tJ not a tlromatie iicem, 

T, Tttotnatt Ji/ft rh ti am/ Jtv^uh fVmf.'ii liiihcriMim VYIT fhc t 
o/Tlie rercy Aneolotn. .i,r - &. k 14." IM S. viL 114. 

EniiATrii. — ttul 8. z. p. 61. coL U. L 8./>r '■ wko 

** Noru A,. D QoBBiai " tf pubiUJud at aooa M Frktar. 4 



Farticnlun of Price, ae.. of th« followtai Booki to lis Mat 4liiil ta 

the ceDtlemao by whoni they sra rc'iutraa, and whoM bbom and ia> 
diaa vc xlfen for that imrroK. 

Ahkuat, Aiimt T.iit prior to 17<>S, end alao 1799. ISH, ISOS, liU, MH, 
Hart'ii would t>« preremd ite ttie laUwjMn. 

I»lt, \<t, ISM. H'H. 
Wanted by J/r. a 

J. S. CwiKirn, (I. Tontine Stnel, 

fiatitti ta Corrt^potitienU. 

p. TmLLirKs. riir Prutr nmp at (*» fifiirni qflhi Aft it 

our Jnd 8. t. 3. If'r hare ii h «rr J'vr tkit ew 

/vncttiii it f 

0. M. Q. vill >r ' that hit tj-ittnnntuM hat it*» authlpaltd. 
T. W. E. inV rfnrf (V ,'c,-c/CV,«i--r ivuonW i«"H. * tt."! 

Da.B. (Dublin.) Therr can U no thuU aal IhtcormerefOntatkM- 

trated as it is by profuse extracts from the Bishop's 
private correspondence, it forms a volumo which will be 
read with considerable interest, not only for its own 
merits, but for the manner in which it carries us back to 
the old time:! when George the Third was King. 

The Biifih of J'afiabondi and Beggart: tinlh a Vocabu- 
larff if their f^ngtiage. Edittd by Martin Luther in the 
I'air ii)i% Xma first trantlalfd into Engliih, with Jn- 
trotluelioH and ^Tolet, liy John Camden llotten. (Uotten.) 

A book which Luther thought worth editing Sir. 
Uotten might wvU dei-m worth translating and publish- 
ing. Tho Lilier Vagalorvm, written by one who describes 
himself ns "expcrtus in truffis," is supposed to have been 
founded on the trials at Basle, in 1475, of a vaat number 
of mendicants of all desciiptiona. It was first print«d 
mimtt the rear Xbli-Xi, It was then put into verse 
about J31T-I8 by Pamphilas Gegenbach, and eventually. 

am Maulkt foraartled dincf from OU 

liearlt Ixou) it Ut.ld., hAkA mnr t* ooM I 
nmwr af Mnuu. Bau a<b Dazbt.Iss. nan 
oQ CoMHOpnAnoira roB na fianoa rtoald t( 

1 s. X. kvu. 18. 'eo.i 




S». 242.— CONTESTS. 


-BdMi wul Bones of Torinbire. lil — £ii»k- 
k: fitak*pc3i«iiPartiaita — ShaluBMwe— Seriva- 
[itrShakqiare, 1£3 — Anccduto Biofrapny. US. 

Z^pnU: — CitiM turned into Stone — DicVy Dielcu- 
Shmit — DelkMinent of Mannittenl* is Ely 
1- Witty UtaftuAm, Ifl. 

! — Arcbbikltop Ldghton, lit — McMi Bibllo. 
ihj-,135— AUport FuuUr — Old EnRUsh Tunes — Tory 
f — Richard Jnliimon: Sir Thoiuas Parkyn*— " Polo- 
. rvmSeeunda" — Hn. U.St«wivrt— Codduutton Bai-c- 
couTN— Ftmilf of Ap Rhys, or Riir — Draniatic Anthore 
— Woroertenldre Badfp— N.-ly.n cpf niarl^H.-wdrth —A 
D« to 6quai« PW — tin-ek Pciunimslup — Seaon 
■ — limited Liability-, UtJ. 

Ixsnru : — Coaini<>inoraticm Semiou* — 
Adderkjr Church — Mn. Ann ■'B1j<*ler — lie Sancto Tc- 
*»IO'-Tor»ter — "The Koyal Partoral" — 8t«r— "Oiw 
> erf GoMe " — .£011, 1S«L 

-Cantenariaaim. 128— — 
'Dm Mapmtie Deoliaatiou, lb. — Jamca Ainslie, 138 — 
DrmwlnR Society uf thililin, lU — Char, ChanromaiVi lii. — 
IMke or BucUntrhain -. Jainea Douche — Toada flmnd in 
> — Cardinal Hanrin— Oliver Oranivrvll'i Letter- 
Eleanor ami Fiiir KoiiaiDoud — Taafe aud Gordon 
— Mar- ■ — Qonvc: the Oe^, Tai^ 

k— Bath 1 lu li/ i. G. LoeUuvt — 8u- 

tfaeBIU* — Kuu: Lifvrrfd br tbeLorda JuBti(«s 

. «r IMtaad— Le^cviuUr;' Painting— The Medicinal Virtue 
l«r Oiillui I* ITetM- Cfera- Been BerTtair as Haven — 
UOa. KJ r a if.KodG'awmB X«tra — Novel Weathor Iiidi- 
r— Armorial Qucriea— Single Supporter, Ae., ISO. 


The lovers of our LalLkd literature are great! j 
ikdebtcil to Dr. logleUew for the ver^ interestiog 
ttie Tolume bearing tiiu above title, which he has 
eatly published. Thci-e are, however, a few 
> not iiicluded io the colleution, wLicii (cou* 
lering the general charactci' of itjt coutciits) I 
eted to have found therein, aud which I cou- 
dude bare C9ca|)ed tbe researches of the cuuipiler, 
■iiice they are Jieitiier of the kind which he states 
to hare been puqiusely omitted, uor such as he 
would (in niy opiiiioa) have rejected when c.xer^ 
' ing the dntj of election. To these, therefore, 
rould beg leave to invile his altentiuu. 
The firti belongs to a clasa of eoug« of which a 
part of the volume is compoced, viz. those 
■elatinf to events of a public nature, but it is of 
flo pnrejjr local a character, and of ikOch teoiporarj 
iatareat, that it possibly has scarcely been beard 
of beyond the boundaries of the town to which it 
elates, and in which it was most likely composed 
-dmusctonces nuite sofficieot to aoooiuit Mr its 
' from Dr. Ingledew's pagea. It irai luog 
tiie streets of Bradibrd during tiie Musical 
PoitiTsl 00 tLe opening of St George'a Uall in 
IhaA town in August and September, 18£S; and 
lHw <?opy beneath ii transcribed from a broadside, 
itliout either printer's name or place of publica- 

tion, which I, there and then, porchated Ckf (be 
minstrel who was caroilinn; forth the ditty. The 
sheet on which it is primed also contains a song 
acquainting us " llow five and twenty Khillings 
are expeinJed in a week" ; but that is, I ihiuk, of 
metropolitan origin. 

" A Xru- Snug on Iht Opning of St. Gtorge't Htdl. 

" Good ])«i>|ile all tiiat'a slauJiug round, I pray you now 

And listen with attention to the lines which I bare 

I hope thnt I Aiall none oifend. I wish to pWase yi>o all ; 
It'« all about the opening uf the Great St. Geoi(;e'ii liall. 

" There isi the Maj-or and Corporatioo, and the Merchant.i 

too liketrise, 
At tl)e opening of SL George's Ball they will ywi all 

surprise ; 
They arc going to hnvc a Featival, a Concert and a Ijall, 
To celebrate the opening of lb« great St. George's Hall. 

" FroDi Halilax and Iltiiidcrf field, and Ukeirise York and 

The sporting Ladies will swarm in just like a fluck of 

With bran new buiUca on their rumps, and dandy cups 

and all ; 
They will make some young men rue the day they 

came to George'* HaU. 

•• There is a dandy Weaver, she works at tlie Queen's Head, 
A cabbage [net] to hold her hair »lie ban u|i<in ho/ head. 
With artiticials on her tj^i, and flounced |;onn and all, 
Slu'lJ cut a dash ujiou tbt; Uav tbcy open George'* iiall. 

" Her sweedicart is a Snob who awears, in apile of wind 

and wcBllter, 
He'll sell lii* lapstone and his wax, likewise his Lemp 

and leather. 
He swoart that bo will sell his cloak and little pigs 

and all, 
To buy a ticket for his dear to go to George's Hall. 

" There is another verse I'll sing to you, yon never beard 
the like. 
The losiies that are in tiie town for wagts inean to strike. 
They lay ihev'U have u better price or else not work 

nt all. 
Tbev mean to strike upon the day they open George's 

" The Masoni and the Carpenter;, and Builders too like- 

Upon that day 1 mean to say a tool they will lint raise ; 

The CoBoler-jumperN Ba<Ws' Clerlu, aiid Faclei>' 
Lads and all. 

Will have a spree upon Ibe day Ibey open George'a Uali. 

" So to conclude and liuiab this [the last] vsna of uy 

We'll ilrink sacceas to George's Ball and Biadfoed's 

noted town; 
And Laseei, when you're going home, take care yoo do 

not fall. 
For it's tea to one von rue the dav yon went to Geoirge^ 


The next is a ballad, entitled "The Merchant's 
Son [of Yoik] and Heggar Wench of llnll," 
printed in Kvons's Oil BaUadt (iii. 2C7.), edit. 
1*10; the omission of which must hnve been, I 
imagine, quite accidentwl, as Dr. Inglcdew has ad- 
mitted into his cuUecuou sonigb -wWtVWs* % w»»«i». 



slenderer connexion with the county, e.g. Col- 
man's ditty of" Unfortunate Mis8 Bailey." 

Two only of the six songs published by Ritson, 
as Part I. of The Yorkshire Garlanrl, are inserted. 
Tliree of the others should, I think, have been in- 
eluded, viz. "The Horse Race;" "In praise of 
Yarm;" and " The Gamblers fitted." The fourth 
is of that class which Dr. Ingledew has reserved 
for future publication. 

The song of " The Twea Threshers" appears to 
be imperfect. It is described as " A story of two 
rustics, and the history of their several mistakes 
during a holiday which they took to go to Scar- 
borough," but it carries the story no farther than 
the cominencement of their journey : the history 
of the mistakes being wholly w-inting, and not ac- 
counted for by the editor. Perhaps the missing 
portion exists separately in the form of a Second 
Part to the song. 

Having made the above Notes, I now submit a 

Earl Fauconbcrg' 

luntecrs," whose song of " The Yorkshire Volun 
teers' Farewell to the Good Folks of Stockton" • is 
given by Dr. Ingledew, identical with the Poet 
Laureate of the Eton Montem ? If so, he is de- 
serving of a foot-note. The Laureate was said lo 
have been (like the North Riding poet) a soldier. 
Some particulars of him (including specimens of 
his Montera Odes) are given in Hone's Year 
Book ; and also, I think, in The Mirror, a weekly 
periodical which iloarished between thirty and 
forty years ago. W. II. IIusk. 

. iV^as not " Herbert Stockhore, private in 
'"'auconbcrg's Yorkshire North Hiding Vo- 



SuAKSFEai4N PoRTBAiTs. — Much cootroversy 
has arisen on the authenticity of the numerous and 
varied portraitJi of William Shakspeare, and de- 
spite of all that has been written and said about 
the Chandos portrait of our immortal bard, Buadeu 
and Wivel have both written books to prove that 
no portrait was ever painted of our Poet Shafc- 
speare during his lifetime. And I of my own 
knowledge can here assert and testify that one Mr. 
Zinoke, who lived thirty-five years since, a pic- 
ture-restorer, then residing in Windmill Street, 
Lambeth, manufactured old portraits, principally 
Shakspeares, ^liltons, and NellGwinns; and one 
of the portraits of the former old Zincke sold at a 
sale in Greek Street, Soho, for 4/. 10*., and that 
that same portrait passed from dealer to dealer 
until it was sold to Talma, the French tragedian, 
for 1000 guineas. 

This portrait was dubbed the "Bellows Por- 
trait " from the ingenious but deceptive statement 
" that it was at first painted upon canvas, and de- 
corated the top of toe parlour bellows belonging 

• In Haslewood'g edition of Ritson's BiMhopric Garland, 
be u styled " ibe pretended autlior." 

to Queen Elizabeth." Old Zincke died tB 
twenty-five years since, and left behind him %\ 
twenty portraits of Shakspeares and Miltona, kc, 
all in pledge at the various West-end pawn, 
brokers, and also a catalogue written in a small 
memorandum-book (that one of his sons showed 
me) of all the portraits old Zincke (his f:ither) had 
manufactured of his favourite trio, Shaksneare, 
Milton, and Nell Gwinn ; but Shakspearc sold the 


Shaksfbabe. — In the Life of Shakspeare pre- 
fixed to the splendid edition of his Workt now a 
course of publication by Mr. Halliwell, it is »t 
that the earliest instance of the name yet 
covered is that of Thomat Shakespere, who 
connected in an official capacity with the port J 
Youghal in Ireland, in 49 Edward III., \.d. I37| 
And that a second e.irly notice, of a less ngr 
kind, relates to another Thomas Shakcs[x:re. 
was indicted of felony at Coventry in the reign ( 
Henry IV. From neither of those instances d 
the native place of the individual, or tlw 
origin of the family, be inferred — both were ' 
viously in tramilu. I have found an earlier men* 
tion of the name, which I think clearly shows iti 
holder to have been a landholder in Cumberland. 

The hospital of St. Nicholas, at C.nrliile, wm 
endowed (by King Athelstau as supposed) witli i 
thrave of com from every plough-land in Cua 
berland. In the reign of Edward III. the 
thraves were withheld by the landowners, 
some reason which dues not appear: whereup 
the kiag, as patron, issued his commission to in 
quire w-hat was due, and from whom, and so fortU, 
An inquisition was accordingly held at Carlisle on 
the Feast of St. Bartholomew, 31st Edward HI., 
A.P. 1358; upon which the jury find that tHf 
thraves were due to the hospital, and hod b"'i! 
rendered fron^ time beyond memory; but I'l^ 
for eight years last past they had been witlil;:' 
by the persons thei'ein named (a large r. : ' 
various parts of the county), and ani' 
by Heiiry Shaketpere of the parish of .v.. 
which is a parish on the " fellside," to the . 

ward of Penrith, and bordering on We«t 

Here we have distinct evidence of a S 
holding a plough-land as far bacJc as 13 '' . ' 
five years before the cisuul mention of Thomas it 
Youghal in Ireland. It is observable that thi 
spelLng of the name is similar. Cxf usu. 

Derivation of Suakspkbe (2*^ S. ix. 439. : X. 
15.) — The etymology of Shakeshaft referred to 
by Mk. Fergcsok seems simple enough ; viz. fron 
tigighaft ; sighnft being used by the Fr 
for "victorious" (cf. Wachter). But it mi^ 
also be from gigiihaved, " head of victory," "vic^ 
toriouj leader,*^ A.-S, kiafod, 0. G. havbt^ Va. 

F9^&x.Ato. le.'eo.') 



kavedt Gotb. haubith, Frnnc, Alaon?. houhit). Some 
old German names are doubtless derived from 
ber, bero, per, pero, a " bear ; " but in compo- 
sition this vocable may sometimes be from bar or 
ver, a man. I can still atford to give Mb. Feb- 
onsoN a castle, nnd will proceed to take it. I 
refer to Mr. Sbakestafi*, with which cf. Eavestaff, 
HackstafT, HalstafliLangslnflT, Longstafl", andWag- 
rtaff. In these names the last sjllable is evi- 
dently a corruption of the Saxon ited, a place, for 
we have the surname Hiiistead and the local and ^ 
personal name Ilnlsted, "healthy place," and the ' 
surnames Bickerstaifand Bickersteth are tlie same, , 
both being derived from the local name, which is 
found written liykerstnjf, Bickerslelh, Bykyrstath, 
Bekerj/(j//i, and Bicker^faf. If SIbert. Schubert, ' 
and Shuobert are corrupted from Sigibert, and | 
Ruadpert, Ruoprcht, Rupert, UupTecht, Robert, 
Ridpatli, Redpatb, Itatpert, and Radperth are 
merely diflercnt orthogi'anhies of the same name, 
which I take them to be, I do not see the force of 
the BUEgestion "that the change of Sicisper (or 
eren isigisbert) into Shakspere can scarcely be 
justified on etymological principles." 

R. S. Chahhock. 
Gray's Inru 


At p. 238. of Mr. Timbs's very agreeable Ante- 
dole Biography, I read : — 

" The author of a volume of Ptn and Ink Sketches, 
poblUhod in 1847, relntcg that bo iv<u introduced to 
Cra%b« at • Conversazione at the Becclca Plillosopliical 
InstitntioD. The poot wae seated in Cowpcr's arm- 
chair, the same which the Uard of Olney occupied at 
Mn. Unwin't. ' FleoMd to sec you, my young fiiend: 
vary pleaseJ to see you,' said Crabbe to the anihor of the 
SMchu : and after a little while be pointed to the One 
portrait of Burke bv Sir Joshua Reynolds which hung 
near him, and said, 'Very like, very like iadecd. I was 
in Sir Joshn.1'9 study when Burice est for it. Ah ! there 
waa a man 1 K ever you come to Trowbridge,' he added, 
'you must csll at the vicarage, and I'll sbovr you a 
OBCtch of Burke, taken at Westminster Mnll when he 
made bis n' speech in the Warren nastinga' caie. 
Edmund left it to tne-, it is only a rude pencil drawing, 
bat it gives more of the orator thau that picture does.' " 

Having bad the pleasure of knowing Becclcs 
and the poet Crabbe s family rather intimately, I 
was startled with this new anecdote ; and inquiring 
in both those quarters I find, first, that there never 
waa a Philosophical Institute at Beocles ; nor 
erer a " Conversazione " except oite, in connection 
with the Public Library, long after the poet's 
death; nor Burke's portrait, nor Cowper's arm- 
chair ever remembered in the town at all. 

" Becclcs," however, may be a slip of the au- 
thor's or transcriber's pen for Norteick, where 
j Crabbe usually spent a day or two with Mrs. 
Opie when he came this way, and where Cowper's 
armchair, at least, may very likely have been pro- 

duced nt some such Conversazione; but whence 
the portrait of Burke, at the painting of which 
" I was in Sir Joshua's study,' &c. ? As to th« j 
" pencil drawing " of Burke making " his great 
speech," and left " bi/ Eilmwtd to me I " nothing 
is remembered of it by any one of the poet's sur- 
viving family ; one of whom, most competent to 
sneak, is quite certain that " it did not exist when 
the property was divided" between the poet's 
two sons at his death ; and such a relic was not 
likely to be overlooked. The same person ob- 
serves on the utter improbability of the language 
put into the poet's mouth : '^ how dithcult it was 
ever to get lilm to speak in the country of the 
great people he fell in with in town ; " how very 
little given he was to invite strangers to his house; 
" not always civil to such as broke in upon him," 
as a celebrity : that whether " Edmund left it to 
me " were n fnct, such were " certainly not his 
words " in telling of it ; " he woidd uuve said 
' Mr. Burke,' " being, as every one who knew him 
knows, somewhat over-formal in such punctilio. 


CiTiBs TUHifED INTO Stone. — It would be in- 
teresting to trace the various forms of this niyfhos, 
which probably derives its origin from the sand- 
storms of Saharftii countries. The latest instance 
of its appearance in the historic form occurs in a 
letter from Sir Keiiclm Digby preserved in an 
old number of the European Magazine (1787). 
Sir Kenelm quotes the letter of a correspondent 
residing at Florence, describing 

"A strange metamorphosis hapned in Barbary not long 
since, which if, the turning of a whole city iuto stone, 
that is, men, beasts, trees, houses, utensils.' &c., every- 
thing remsining in the same posture (as children at their 

mothers' breasta), &c One Whitiug, the captain 

of an English ship (who had bin a slave), coming to 
Florence, told the great Duke of this incident, and he 
himself had seen the city." 

This story was too strong for Ferdinand, and 
he wrote to the Bassa about it ; but the Bassa 
not only confirmed the captain, but sent " divert 
of the things petrified, and among the rest Vene- 
tian zechena turned into stone." 

The remarks which Digby subjoins are amus- 
ingly characteristic of the turn of his mind, and 
conclusively establish the genuineness of the letter, 
otherwise rather suspicious. 

This must philosophic of gobe-mouches swallows 
" men, beasts, trees, and bouses," but boggles at 
the sequins. 

"It seems strongest to me that an inactive body (as 
all cold, drT,*Bnd earthy ones are) should thus change 
gold, the strongest resistant in nature. But it is true 
also that little oeose atoms force their wsy moit unresist- 
ably into all bodies when some impellent drives them 




It is wortb remark that almost all travellers in 
the Desert remark upon the quantity of petriAed 
wood Aiund there. 

The northern nations, who also have these 
stwies of petrifactions, but upon a smaller scale, 
maj have atlapted them from the traditions which 
thej brought with them from the Esist. 

C. Febra:(d Cabbw. 

Dicky DiCKSsnoK. — That stupendous and ver/ 
extcnai^'c displacement of earth which took place 
on Thurailny, 29 Dec. 1737, at Scarborough, is 
seldom, if ever, spoken of nt the present time 
without allusion to that most eccentric indi- 
vidual Dickj Dickenson, the nondescript master 
of the ceremonies there at that time, xou have 
in "N. & Q." (2-* S. ii. 189. 27.^; ix. 109.) 
IL'ivcn many particulars of that ram ari*, but in 
pcrusin<T an old and curiouji work. The Life tmd 
Adeentnres of Timothy Giimadrake (ii Pseudo- 
nymc) in 3 vols. Bath, 1771, I have met with an 
amusing account of Dickenson, and some in- 
teresting anecdotes in vol. ii. pp. fil — 66. I re- 
gret they are too long for transcribing, and I am 
therefore necessitated to refer your readers to 
firiniiadrake himself. An engraving of Dicky 
Dickenson, fine and scarce, occurred in Puttick s 
sale of June 27, I860. 2. 2. 

To SiiuMT. — I am inclined, though with some 
diffidence, to question Webster's derivation of this 
now common word. He says it is a " contraction 
of shun it. In railways, a turning off to a short 
rail, that the principal rail may be left free." 
Shun is here used, I take it, in the sense of avoid- 
ing. It seems to me, however, tliat it is an old 
provincial word which means isimply to shoes. 
Ilailcy has " to shunt, to shove," also " to siicx, 
to shovi". (SuflT.)" Coles ha'*, " to suum, to 
shove, Ss." (Sussex.) This shoving we constantly 
witness in the neighbourlioo<l of railway st.itions, 
when a carriage or truck is removed by main 
bodily force on to a siding. John 

Arno's Court. 

Dbfacbmest of Moxu.ments in Ely Cathe- 
OBAL. — Whatever the amount of damage to 
the imagerj and architectural beauties of Ely 
Cathedral justly attributable to Oliver Cromwell 
and his partisans, it is evident that the ruthless 
hand of the destroyer was at work on the monu- 
ments there as early as Queen Elizabeth's reign, 
if we may believe the account given by Francis 
Go.lwyn, in his Catalogue of the Bishopx of Eng- 
I'liul, published in 1601. 

The following extracts from tint bonk may in- 

. torest some of the re.idcrs of •' N. & (i." who liavc 

not the opportunity of referring to tj»c original 

work. In tlic description of John llntham. Bishop 

of Ely, from 1316 to 1336, it is said, 

" He lielh entombed in a monnment of Alabaster that 
was sometimes a very stately and goodly building, but 

now shamefally deftced, as are also al other 

of the church. It standeth east from tlie leioa Altaic im 

the middle, but to the west end of the prasby teiy." 

Of John Barnet, Bishop of the same dioceM ia 
1366, it is said, — 

" He died June 7, 1379. at Bishopa Ilatfidd, and Utb 
buried vpon the south side of the high altar; hi wUeh 
place there is to be aecne a goodly tomb* Bionstronity de- 
faced, the liesd of the image being broken oS^ I take that 
to be Barnets toombe." 

Hbbvs Fbatbbi 

Witty Despatcues. — An excellent writer, M. 
Slaxime Du Camp, in the Revue dei Deux Moadet 
for March 15, 1856 (p. 316.), alluding incidentiUy 
to Hungary and the campaign in TV«aaylTBiiia| 
says, "Bein, lo terrible et Icgendaire cnpitainc; 
repoussait Jellachich, et ecrivait cette etnnn 
lettre devenue celebre : 'Bern ban bum;* fittS* 
ralement, ' Bern bat Ban.' " 

This reminds one of the humoroua turn of Sb 
Colin Campbell, who, on the capture of Lacknov, 
it is said, telegraphed thus : " I am in bidk lumf." 

Not a bail despatch cither, and most laconic^ 
wiis that of Sir Charles Napier when he conqoerel 
Scindc — " Peccavi." Chcbchdowb. 



Amongst Colo's "racy Notes" lately printai 
in " N. & (j." (x. 61.) occurs a disparasing refer- 
ence to one who is alike above all praise or db- 
praise — Abp. Leigh ton. I am curious to lee tbe 
I' very diScrent chnrncter given him by Dr. HiiAM 
in Some Digcourtc* on Dr. Siimet ami Dr. TiUtt' 
ton, pp. 23-24." Will some correspondent kindly 
favour me with the passage referred to T Bj-the* 
way, Coh: spells the name "Bp. Laytoa or 
Leighton," which reminds me that I hare bewd 
some few persons pronouncing it Laytoa ; but I 
do not see how this perversion of the name esme 
about, as it was originally spelt Leichtoune, Lic^ 
toun, Lyghton, and Lightou, as well as Leighton. 

[The following passage is the one noticed in OoM 
notes. Dr. Hickes says " Xow I am upon tbe aubjaet «t 
I latitude, I will beg leave of tlic reader to tell him a otoqr 
of toleration, or cumprelieniiion (for the diflhraaeo aooM- 
times is not great between them), which in the end will 
toarI\ a litile on our preacher [Ur. Burnet] t of whoa I 
must observe once for all, that it is hi* opinion that 
■ an historian who favours bis own side is to he foi^given, 
thnu};h Iio puts a little too much life in his colours wtea 
lie sets out the beat side of his party, and the wont of 
those from whom he differs; and if he but sUgfaUy 
toui'hcs the failures of his friends, and Mvenly aggravalw 
those of the other side, though in this be doparta from 
the laws uf an exact histcrian, yet this bias ia so natan^ 
that if it lessens the credit of the writer, yet it doth Ml 
lilai-ken Iilm.' (Btftectiont oh Uu Niitarg of VmriBat,ff. 
7, K.) This shews how apt he is to favrar his nm 
friends and his own party, beyond what ia Joat Bad tni| 

\va, >«. "eo.] 



•ini? a knovn) 1neilti(HnsH«ii, by his own rule we 
' tjo coniineni]i) or ilcreniU 
And it was upon tlio 
yMlicul devotion, that li« 
to vxlut Ui. I>.i\'iuu, iIiu^kI* ''y soma canons Ue 
iC^d in bifl IliaJt/rv af'Ou liitfhix. of PriactM^ llQ ivOfl 
■■' ' ' ": lillolbon wnfl 6*- 

f the stoj of Caj»- 
■ >r. Lnytoa, he "'ts 
ml a iiLHsitiue iu ouiii|>reli«ui>ii>a, that he fteelj 
to receive the ejectijd Presbyttriati niinUtera 
It episcopal orilinaiion if thor would cotne in, and 
Uact all (hintrt ia IIk' jovernnient of ths Chun-b 
Ilia prmbytors* by plurulity of suffrages, strictly 
M as if li« were uo more than, a presbyter among 
juchbishop Hurael, into whose chair he intruded, 
r. Gunning. LSinhop of Kly, this story of bis intm- 
nJ tic wondering that any Bishop a'hould give up 
}wi'r without which he could not act as Bi»hop, asked 
imet of the truth of it, which be positively denied, 
enial of his obliged the good Archbishop for his 
ation to refer Kinhop Gunning to a bonk which be 
ifi with a friend, for the truth of what he had told 
I the coniprelioiislve UlJtude of Dr. Layton, I iiavv 
wk, and remember it was printed at Cilasgow, and 
illy saiitiiod (he Ki^hop, that he took it home with 
bat beforu he went made sotDa reflections on the 
tf iagenoitr in Dr. Burnet, and ooncludod lii^ ani* 
Irsions a|>ua bim with a trick be shewed himself, 
te$ to a book called .YuAcii Truth, which the Bishop 
Ml to answer. Dr. Burnet, among others, hearing 
tAcna to wait upon him ; and when that Diacoarae 
between iheni, ho asked the Bishop u|toa what 
» he intended to make bis answer, lie, who was 
-t frank and communicative men in the 
1 he would answer it from Part to Part; 
mr observing with design, carried every 
■twar, and being a awiil and ready writer, printed 
tawer to it before the other bad finished his. 
said before that be whs aUo an admirer of Dr. 
n upon the account of mystical devotion ; for ho 
a enthusiast of the liritt msKnitudc, and it was a 
mischance, that this preacher preached not bis 
1 sermon. And as upon tlut account be admired 
lo was be wonderfully taken with Ljibadie's writ- 
nd would have persuaded the Duke of Lauderdale 
I for bim into Scotland. One of his greatest Lon- 
iends hath also told ma what paina he and some 
(brmcrly t«ok to correct the enthusiasm of his 
', and keep bim from plunijiu^; himself into mystical 
7. And when he w.u professor at Glasgow, he 
ot so far into a dt of it, that he !<et up for an 
k; tJKl onoe being in the archbishop's house, and 
nteg with his dangbler upon lome commoa sub- 
1 on a sadden be leaped out of his chair, and with 
> look, and gesture, all extalic and eulhusiaslicol, 
ords to this (iTcct : ' Now am I sur« of my ^alva- 
ow I am sure, that if the earth should ojv-n and 
w nie up thia moment, my ^^auI would co to bta- 
I bad this aioty from the good archbishop, and I 
in it because I bare observed, in very many in- 
I, how cnlhasi«sm with its religious heals, makes 
I it is prevalent do the same ill things, Ibnt 

sinne <lcgre« makes others do ... . And 
^.- ... -I suppose that he [Gilbert Burnet] bad a 
loae ot tnlhuiiaam in him, when ho undertook to 
de the late uuhappy Princess [Marr"] to invade 
her's kingdom, - ml the 

lies of her edm . .^ prr- 

M with The sak . , _. . ,;.. ..led lo 

il in commiseration 01 the Church of l-.nglaad : for 
all known that be liad lews at command, aa ea- 

thu-iinsls of nil religions li.ive. He wept like any crocodile 
at ^T "" ■ ■• (if the bnrbarous nuge which 

the ilh at Favrrsham. 'AncLpr*^, 

Mr. , . :i wiping his eyes, 'carry my 

duty to the iiiug. ami Id him know m^' concern for hint.' 
Which pat.s me in mind of a ^torj' that I have beard of 
thai master-enthusiast Cromwell, who when a eenllc* 
man came to entreat bis ExcrUenci/, ' That he woulil i^iva 
leave that he might have a lock of the behe.Tlcd King's 
hair for an honourable Isdy:' 'Ahl no. Sir,' s.uth he, 
bursting into tears, ' thai must not he ; for 1 swore to him, 
when be was living, that not an hair of his head shoald 
perish ! ' " — Some Ditenurtet upon Dr. Burnet and Dr. 
TUlotton, -llo. ICUo, pp. 'i-'-ti.'\ 


May I beg; j-our aiil in procuring iofonnatioi 
and ossistaiicti I'rom quarters wbicU can be rcicbei 
by means of a literary journal alone ? The sub* 
ject of my re<juest will, I do not doubt, be of 
interest lu at lea&t one class of your rca<lors. 

My txiend, Mr. E. G- Salisbury of Gliui-Aber, 
Chester, — to whose Welsh librury I waa greatly 
indebted when I wa« compiling a History of the 
Priuci[jality. some ten years ago, — has now raised 
the number of his collection to '2500 or 3000 
volumes ; and he is about to print a catalogue of 
them, ns a contribution, and by no means an ua- 
imporlant one, lo AVelsh bibliography. 

The books may be cln&sified geiierally as (1.) 
Works on Wales and the Border Counties, (2.) 
Works in ^^'elsh, and (3.) AVorks by Welshmen 
and natives of the Border Counties. But the 
catalogue will be arranged under the three divi- 
sions of works pubUshed before 1800 ; those pub- 
lished in the first half of the present century; and 
those published since 18^0. 

The requests which, by your courtesy, I would 
prefer to librarians and collectors of boqka com- 
ing under any one of the three classes mentioned 
above, are, that they would be so good us to com- 
municate to Mr. Salisbury the titles of any such 
works as they may (tosaeas, which are not so com- 
moti as certainly to be found in any Welsh library, 
infuU, and, if possible, accompanied by some brief 
description, especially if published abroad ; and 
that, if they have duplicates, they would oblig- 
ingly indicate the fact, and their willingness to 
part with them, by exchange, or on any other 

I need not point out the value of a Catalogi 
like this; but I may say that 'Jic knowledge an 
determination which niy friend has brought to 1 ' 
performance of his self-imposed task, are such 
to be to me a satisfactory assurance that hi$ Cati 
logue will be, and particularly if he obtain the a 
which I have requested, a most important addition 
to British Biblio^Tiiphy. B. B. Woodwabd. 

Roval Libran-, Winilsor Castle. 


tS"* 8. X. Ava. 19. 


Allfokt Family. — For some years post I have 
been making genealogical collections respecting 
this family. Any cointuunication of information 
respecting any individuals of the name, either 
liyjng or dead, or in whatever station of life, 
nitls, deeds, monuments, &c., will be very accept- 
able. W. A. Leiohtok. 

Otn English Tunes. — There ore still some old 
English tunes of more or less worth plaved by 
chimes in country churches, and, as far as I know, 
not to be found elsewhere. Would it not be 
worth while, before they be all changed or done 
away with, to get them noted down ? which some 
one would be found to do in any pari&b, if iln, 
CHAn^ELL or Dr. Eimbault would ask as much 
in " N. & Q." 

Will they, or any other of your cotiiribators, 
help me to the story of the person, tune, and words 
(if there were any) of the delightful old "Nancy 
Dnw-son ? " She danced at Sadler's Wells I know 
some iiundted years ago, and was buried in some 
London church — St. Bride's, I think.* 1 also know 
the print of her just about to fling 00* in her | 
" j'gK-" I^ut ^^^^ else ? Pabathika. 

Tory Sona.— On a recent occasion. Lord John 
ALinners, at tlic end of a speech to propose 
" Church and State," said, he could not belter 
conclude than Juthc words of a well-known Tory 
song : — 

"Here's a ti«a1th to Old England, 
licr QuND and ber Cbarch, 
And may all plotting contrivers 
Be left in tbe lurdi." 

Wbcre can I find the song of which this forms, 
1 suppose, the conclusion ? G. W. W. 

RicuARD Johnson : Sir Thomas Fabkyns. — 

" ,Iobn Wilds Two Penny Accidence ; . . . . Particularly 

For Thomas Smith, School -Muter in Gotham 

Nottinghain: Printed by Will. Arscongb in Woolpack- 
lane, for tbe Author, John Wild of Little-Leak." 

The 3G pp. apparently contain'a satirical parody ; 
there are books from* the same press dated 1714, 
171G, 1717, aud on the title-page E. II. Barker 
noted it as circa 1720. Tbe contentious Eichard 
Johnson was Master of Nottingham Grammar- 
School from 1707 till 17*20 or 1721, in which last 
year he was drowned, and it is not improb.ible 
that the above formed part of the controversy 
in which he was engaged ; but it seems to bear 
no reference to his Aristflrdtim or Nocte» : his 
Grammatical Commentaries I have no present op- 
portunity of comparing. In " A Practical and 
Grammatical Introduction to the Latin Tongue, 
by Sr. Thomas Pivrkyns of Bunny, Bart 

[* This famoaa hornpipe dancer died at llampstead. 
May 27, 1767. ind waa burieil in Ibf ccmeter)- of St 
George the Martyr, Queen Square, Bloomsbury, where ' 
thers i* a tomlMtone to her memory wittk the laconic ia> I 
acriptioD, " Here lies Nancy Dawson."— Ed.] 


j The second edition. Nottingham : Printed liy 
William Ayscough In Bridlesmidigate^ 1716," 

I there is a confused jumble in the Syntax whicit 

I might hare given a hold to the psetidonymou* 
author ; in the preface Johnson's critical 'c^^^H 

I is mentioned. Wanted the date, author's ^^| 

and design of the former book. S. F. CsBSWBUtk 

Bidford. Nottingham. 

" Pblopidabum Secunda." — In the Harleii 
MSS. (5110.) there is an English trngedy 
blank verse called " Pelopidarunf Secunda," act 
at Winchester School in the seventeenth ccntorf. 
Can you inform me about what year this piece 
was acted ? Is there any reason to believe that. 
this play was composed by the master orf 
school ? What is the subject of the play f lor, 

SIbs. II. Stewart. — Helen D'Arcy Cranstoun 
who became the wife of Dugold Stewart, Profw 
sor of Moral Philosophy in the University 
Pldinburgh, was authoress of an exquisite suol 
beginning "The tears I shed must ever fall." Ca 
any of your readers tell me whether this accoD 
plished person wrote any other pieces ? T. 

CoDDiNCTON Racecoibse. — In an article ia 
the Athcnaum, ISIay 19, on RuBTs Guide A> Ae 
Turfy ocCTira the following passage : — 

"Then [ia the reign of James the First] act onlyKe 
market uud 'Guallre;,' but Rovston and CodJingt«n . , 
grew into celebrity as coorses.^' 

I shall feel obliged to anv correspondent < 
can refer me to accounts of Coddington races, 
presume that a place of that name near Newa 
18 meant, because the corporation of Newark wer 
formerly expected to provide a plate to be run I 
by race-horses on Coddington Moor. 


Family or Ar Ruts, ob Rice. — In a letti 
written in the 1758, an account is k'^'o 
the pedigree of this family, settled at Mytbrer^ 
Carmarthenshire, iu a.d. 1220. It is stated to C 
descended from " Caradog Freichoras," and to bea 
his arms, viz. " Sable, a dievron between 3 sp 
heads argent, their points cmbowec^ impaled witi 
sable a Chevron between 3 garbs argent." A ; 
ferencc is made to a " Dr. Davies's Dictionary" fa 
inform.ttion as to the family. 

Can any of your readers inform roe whetiie. 
such a book is known as containing biographicu 
or genealogical information P I uave in ra' 
searched the British J^Iuscum Catalogue. Or tha 
book in question may possibly be 7^e Dixjiluy o}< 
Heraldry, by J. Davies, published at Saloji, 17 Id 
(which I believe is scarce), mentioned in Moulc'4 
Bihliolheca fleraldica. It appears to give the arml 
and names of the families descended from the an* 
cient Welsh tribes. Where could I get u sight o( 
this book ? Any information on the subject woutdl 
much oblige A Descebdart or TBt FAMttT- 

I S. I. Ate 18. 'ao.] 






Drah ATic AvTuoBS. — Can you give me any 
iofonuutlon ruirurding the P^Uo^vlng dramatic au- 
thors, whom I find uiciitioiK-d in Mr. UalUwcU's 
Dictionary of Old EtmlM Phiyt. 1st, Sir George 
Talbot, author of "Fillis of Scirus," tranalnti-d 
into English. (Britijh Museum, JISS. Addit. 
r2,l2S,) '2iid, Ladies Jane Cavendish and f^li- 
zftbeth Bracklcy*, authoi's of "The Concealed 
Fangycf," ft ploy, in the Bodleian Library, MS. 
BawI. Poet. 16. 3rd, R. K., author o( Al/rede, or 
Rif^fit lie-inthrivid, a trogi-comedie, 1659, "De- 
dicated to Lady Blount by her brother R. K." 
Query, who was Lady Blount? Sir Geo. Blount, 
3nd Baronet of Soddington, married Mary, daugh- 
ter and A«t'rf«« of Richard Kirkham, of Blngdon in 
Devon. Thia however, I presume, was not the 
Lady Blount alluded to. Iota. 

WoKCErrBRSHiHi; Badge. — The members of 
the Worcestershire Volunteer corps have upon 
theirappointmenta a " Pear-tree fructed," and it 
is said that the Worcestershire bowmen bore this 
badge at the battle of Agincourt. 

Drayton, in bis PolyoU/ion, makes the pear a 
clxaracCeriatic of this county : — 

** Quoth IVorntAirt again, * and I will sqainl the 
Pear." " 

And Leiand ( CoUeciiutea), deecribing the proper- 
of the shires of England, commences thus : — 

** Tho property of every shire 
I shall tell you and ye shall bear; 
Ilereibnlsliirv shield and cpear, 
Wortttmhirt, wring tht pt»r," tto. 

iKe pears occur also in the armorial bearings 
the " faithful " ci/y of Worcester. Of course 
the allusions in these antiques nior^eauz is clear 
enough, as Worcestershire is still famous for its 
cider and perry ; but I should like to know two 
things, first, Whether the statement as to the 
"Worcestershire bowmen bearing this as their badge 
at Agincourt rests upon rclisible authority; and, 
secondly, Where I can find a list of the badges or 
arms borne by other countie«. 

A very dishonourable origin is assigned by the 
Staffordthire old women to the knot which meets 
ones eyes, tuque ad navseam, throughout that 
county. It was first assumed, according to these 
▼enerabic authorities, in consequence of one of the 
sberifTii, " many years ago," being nus. per coll. for 
murder, or some such heinous crime. It is, bow- 
-CTer, the well-known badge of the old Earls of 
SiaObrd, and hence its usage by the countr. 

H. S. G. 

Nelson or CnADOLKWoRTH. — I find thatTho- 
'mas Nelson of Chaddlewonb, in Berkshire, who 
fras justice of the peace in 1601, and married 
2dary, daughter of Stephen Ducket, had by her 
four sons : William, who succeeded him ; Ihichet, 

Fraiicu, and ThouuiH. And two daughters : Mary, 
who married the Rev. Thomas Rlagrave of Par- 
ley ; and Elizabeth, who married Thomas Cas'til- 
lion, Esq., of Benham Valence. And that the 
eldest son William, who died in 1G81, had, by his 
first wife, James, from whom the present pro- 
prietor of Chaddleworth descends, Anne, Mary, 
and Jane, who niarrie<l John Scrope, Esq., of 
Castle Combe ; and by his second wife, Dorothy 
(daughter of John Pocock of AVoollcy), William, 
Francis, George, Henry, John, Dorothy, and Eli- 

I should be glad to know whether any of your 
readers could give any information as to where 
those members of the family (whose names are in 
Itidics) settled, whom they married, and what de- 
Bcenclanta they left ? 

This is a matter of national as well as private 
interest ; as I have reasons for suspecting that the , 
last named William Nelson may have been iden- 
tical with William Nelson of Dunham Parva, 
Norfolk — the great-grandfather of Lord NcLson. 

I shouW also like to know whether the Dorothy 
Pocock above mentioned was related to Dr. 
Pocock, the celebrated Orientalist, who was, at 
rather a later period, rector of Cbildrey, Berks f 
And if BO, to have some farther particuhirs of that 
family ? Jas. Erw. Nelsow. 


P.S. — The arms of Nelson of Cliaddlewortli 
arc ; Paly of six ar. and gu. a bend vairce or. 
and ta. 

A PaoLotjuB TO SooAKE Pi,AT. — It was not 

unusual in the sixteenth and seventeenth centu- 
ries to introduce country sports with a set speech, 
delivered by the village schoolmaster or parish 
clerk, in some allegorical or imaginary character, 
such as a heathen deity, a pilgrim, a shepherd, or 
a satyr, — after th^example of the masques and in- 
terludes written by Ben Joasnn and hia contem- 
poraries, and performed before Queen Elizabeth 
and her immedtate sacceseors. I have found 
among the papers of an ancient knight of that 

Eeriod, who resided near Chamwood Forest in 
pcicestershirc, the following prologue to an exhi- 
bition of "Square Play;" and it may interest 
some readers as an illustration of ancient man- 
ners : — 

" The rara reports of yonr worahipe* favoare, nntio 
acceptance, extrtyordynarv kyndoess, and most 1}-I>erall 
Intartaynment, that you have allwayse shewed to yonr 
neygbborrs, litlh not oncly wonne the bartes of vour do- 
mestical! freudes, but hntU now drowne pore Atnintae, 
even in the nayninge of bis age: frome the dowoea, to 
come to pruente bimself, and alle tbu frewtea of hia fore- 
paaaed yoath, the l^\'vly ofapring of Ibi:) aged abeparde a 
few aylly bovei, to make such aportc this nyght in aqaara 
play, a* shaft in no sorte tx ofl'encyve to yow, nor marh 
tinrtfail to them if fortune favoure tbem not, for they 
l)«yng« not moantaynes of mony, but niouldtiltlea, s|,oU.c>a 
on mounlsyna, 1 ih<>vii|g\vV jtwA oa va^ ^'*^'j "w- v» »-"=^- 



t2»« & X. Avo. ; 

qarnt jt)nr wonhipe with my pretended pnrpoie, «nd 
dMjTu tn know hy this bcArur, how you will acepic of 
me ami my por<^ boi'es wbotc rudncs I bopu you 11111 im- 
jnde lo itiy raeane uiitates, for shepardes be no couriers : 
thus with many good irithis I ottcnde yout vronliipes 

I Bin not acquainted •witU the term "square 
play," but imagine it may have been a combat at 
quartor-stafl", nfler the fashion of the merry com- 
rades of Robin Hood ; but a reference to Strutt's 
Sp^irla and Pmtime* (lo which at present I have 
not access) will probably aflbrd this information. 

J. G. N. 

GvBKK PcNMiiitsnrp. — ^Can copies, nnd instruc- 
tiona for vrrilin;^ Greek, be procured anywhere in 
London ? and if so, where : Most persons who 
have learnt the Inngunge, have never learnt to 
write it, but imitate with the pen the printed type. 
I was taught by my schoolmaster to write Greek ; 
but I never saw eneraved copies or instructions 
for forming each letter, &c., though, withmit doubt, 
such there must be, and in constant use by the 
yonth of modern Greece and the Ionian Islands. 

E. G. R. 

Sesos Family. — ^^Tiat was the origin of the 
family of Seson, or Sessions, Oxford ? And when, 
and why, was the name changed from Se«on to 
Sessions? Should correspondence be desired, wtite 
to J. W. Sk88ion», Esq. 

Care Messrs. Goodwin & Co., 
San Francisco, CaI. 
Or to Rev. Alex&ndeb J. Sessions. 

Salem, Mass., U. S. A. 
Salem, Mageachasottii, C S. A., June, 1S60. 

Limited Liabilitt. — Wanted, particulars of 
any treatise or work relarive to the formation, 
management, and general operations of Companies 
under the Limited Liability Act. Tbistis. 

i&uniti toit^ ?[nsttocri. 

CoMMEMOBATioN Sebmoks. — Dr. Liviugstone 
relates, among Lis African adventures, that at 
one of his encampments he was watched by n lion, 
that came down and roared before his tent, over a 
valley at some distance, for several hours. An 
ordinary traveller would have made a great deal 
of this picturesque and striking incident ; but he 
mentions it briefly as one of the many perilous 
circumstances to which his occupation subjected 

His daily existence is in fact among lions, 
human as well a* bestial, nml his providential es- 
capes from them are little short of a perpetual 
miracle : but he moves onward with a grateful 
sense of his manifold deliverances, and is not dis- 

When I read the above anecdote some time 
^ff^ it put me in mind of what I had been told in 

my earlier years of an .innunl flcrmon thnt rosed td 
be preached at St. Catherine Cree < 
Lcndenhiill Street, London, for which 
had been made by a London merchant, in thanks 
ful remembrance of his deliverance froiu a lio 
that he met with in Rarbary, who - : 
atliim, but suftbred him to go on ) 
molestation. Many years after II 
I saw in the house of a Mr. Bur- 
dcnt at Ravenstone in the county i.i i 
Ashby de la Zouch, a portrait of tl^ 
merchant, whose name I have forgo;.. 
heard the same account of him, and of 
quest to the parish. I am sorry that it i^ ) 
uiy |x)wcr to state the period at which it « 
made, or when the sermon was first preached, 
find nothing about it in Cunningham, and I Imv 
neither Stowe nor Maitland at hand; but soum^ 
the correspondents of " N. & Q." could 
tell us who he was, with other piirticulars 
to him, and inform us whether the annual Ref 
.for which provision was made is still continued. 

A list ot aimiversary discourses c . 
of private or public events of in i 
prove an interesting and useful auMmnn to ^tv 
valuable omniana. I should like to see it set na 
foot. J. 

[Sir John Gayer, Knt, loft by -m'!! dnt»d l»th 
1648, 200/. for an annual Sormon to be pr«A«b«<l at ' 
Catherine Cree Church, " in memory of his deliTeraner 
from the paws of a lioo in Arabia." The attm of lOL I 
applied to the use of this charity M follow* : I/, to 
minister for a sermon on 16th October; Si. to the eltri 
and sexton ; and Hi. 17j. on the same dtiy to the poor in 
habitatits. — See Rrport nf Charity Commuriitntr^, 
xii. 1S»7., and yew I itw of London, i. 182.] 

Adpebi-bt Church. — AVliat explanation can 
be given of the following Latin line round tb« 
font in Adderley Church, Siiropshire, " Hie mail 
primus homo fruitur cum conjugC pomo?" Is thi* 
line part of a couplet ; and, if go, whnt is tlie otbc 
part ? JoBK AixinrJ 

[Eyton, in his Amiquitiu of ShroftAirr^ x, &, gira 
the hoc as our rorrespoadent lias it, hut only by "i 
plying 041 hlata.s." Possibly it may havB b««n rest 
since he eaw it, to its original integrity. The me 
of the Wne we Inke to t>e " Here oar t"'--' ' 
happily" (or disostroosly, malt, qo. a : 
Dsed-up pun on malum, an apple?) "pr 
bidden fruit;" it. "Hero you hiive •■'■ 
fsculptorcd or picltiriol, probably the hi! 

As the line rhymes at the cirfunt, nc ll.,. 

stood alone, nnd arc not disposed to view it aa I 

part of a couplet. At the same time «■<• wonM • 

to saggest that the first word, " H 

be regarded as suggdstive. Sup 

been adorned, in mcdinral tinn 

senting sacred subjects. S- 

to have bad its dearri^tivi 

hexameter; e.g. "Here you 

see Atmham offering Isaac. 

thc"i?i'<: male primus hoii. . 

ferred to some representation of "man's i 

porlrsycfl either upon the font its«lfi or i 

t^ S. X. AvQ. 18. '600 





Ibn. A5N Whef.leb. — There was publislieil in 
]^99, "* Dialognet, Pitnns, Songt^ nnd BaUads, bj 
various writer*, in Ibe Westmoreland and Cum- 
berland rliiilects, now first collecleil," Ate. Tliis 
y < l>« m e Contains, in the Westmorehtnd dialect, 
Mn. Ann Wheeler's " Four Familiar IJialoginjs," 
with Poem*, &c. Are tbe«e diulugnes in the dra- 
mfttie form? Can yon gire nie sny Ijiogniphical 
particulars re<;!Lrding the authoress, and hur other 
works dramatic or poetic ? Iota. 

[Thaw Dinlogue* are not in the dramatic form. Pre* 
fixed to them is the following notice of the anthoreaa: — 
•* If la. Ann Whe«ler wag Che <lau!;l>ter of Kdward and 
Skmor Coward of Cartmel, where alie was born and 
■laeated. On llie death of her husbauU, Uie captain of 
a reMcI in the Guinea Irndo, she returneil to her native 
country to live with her brother, Mr. W. M. Coward, at 
j^rn- ■- '--rr, where she wrote the Wtttmaniattd Dia- 
Irr' , on tht Inhabilmttt of m ttariul Town ; 

!'•■ iiinm; Acco anU F^, • dialogiw; besides 

MVtuaii wtlict iiiocea never published, bat which were lelt 
I>n<iMircd for presa. Mrs. Wheeler dieii at Arnsidc Tower 
on the 2nd November, W>i, .iged sixt.v-nine, and was 
Imricd within the cliano»l of Beetham chardi."] 

Db Samcto Vki>A8To=Fob3ikr. — In Wright's 
Court Hand Rettored is ii list of Lutinised £ii<>lij>b 
■umajnest, iii Arbich De Saucto Vedasto \i Irans- 
lated Foriter. Can any correaponJent expUin 
how For«ter (i. e. Forenler) can possibly be sig- 
ntfieU by these wor<la ? H. S. G. 

[" Fc'Mter," so far u it is the EnRlish reprejentntive of 
" V^astuii," iloea not appear to be in nnr way connecii>4 
with •• Forester." Cowel, in the " Table of an<:ieiit Sur- 
names" at the end of hia IiUerprtier, ho* "lit Sancio Ve- 
dasto, t'osttr." The fact is tlial the Abbey of S. Vrdasliis 
at Arras, in the varying noinenda'.ure of the Middle 
Asm, was called not only S. Vedaito, bat S. Velaste, S. 
Waast, S. Vast, and S. Vaast. Two of lliese at least, S. 
Waaat aod S. Vaost, appear to b« Teutonic forms of the 
wwd rather than French, especially a.H the snint wat 
much honoured in Germany unJ Belgium. Tlic German 
pronunciaUoa of i'luuf wuuld be Fiuisl ; and tltiD cirruni- 
atance may help to e:<plAin the trnnimatalion of Vedasto 
(Vaast, Fasst) into Foster or Forster. 

The parish church of St. Vedast, London, standa in 
Foster Lone, and is sometioies called St. Foster. This 
liaa already given occasion to some discussion in " X. & 
Q." 2*« S. ii. 509. But we see no way of tracing the con- 
nection between the two ifrmi, " Foster" and " Vedasto," 
except by the aid of those intermediate 5le[is which we 
have indicated above. The Abbey at Arras was dadicatad 
to the saint as eirlv as A.D. (>(>6 or 067. S. Vodaatos died 
A.D. MO.] 

" Thb Rotal PASTORAi..''-^Jiiroe« Nares, Mas. 
jDoc, is the composer of The Royal PaxUtal, a 
dramatic ode, printed in score with overture and 
chfortues. Who is the author of the words of this 
odcP Iota. 

tThis otle is by the Kev. Daniel Bellamy, jun. minister 
'etershum and Kew. It is printed in hi« Elliic Aiuuu- 
SMK/s, i>. ii'., 4to. 1708, where it is entitled " Damon and 
Dtlia, a cantata, ll was otco^'ioncvl by the following in- 
cident. Siiitic lime iu 0>.-tobcr, 17C7, the three cider 
princen, cwiducted by Alts. Cotesworth, went privately 
to Kew Chapd, where kneeiiag rercrcotly before the 

I Communion Tabia, they presented with their own hands 
! a very liberal oltoritig for the relinf of the poor.] 

Stah. — Cowel {IiUerpretitr, tub voce) says that 
I "all the deeds, obligations, and releases of the 
Jews were anciently called st.irs ;" and that one 
remuiii* in flic treasuiy of the Exchequer, " writ- 
ten in Hebrew without pricks in King Jujin's 
reip:n." He also says that in the Pleti Kolls of Piisch., 
9 Edw. I., Rot. 4, 3, G., " many stars, as well of 
grant and release, as obligatory, and by way of 
mortgngc, are pleaded and recited at large." Efare 
any of these tlwuments ever been printed ? and 
if so, wheiv; ? If not, might not a specimen or 
two, if not too lonjr, with n trnnslation, be suitable 
to the pages of "!*}.& Q" 

Cowel says, Star is a cr»ntraetion from the He- 
brew Shvtar, which sin-niljes n deed or contract: 
but the only Hebrew word I can find at all re- 
sembling it is "V^, rendered by the LXX. yffOfi- 
Mareur. E. G. R. 

[The term tketar, naed in the sense of a deed or con- 
tract, is not classical (or biblical) Hebrew, but rabbinic. 
" '^O-' Scriptura obligntionis rcl coutractUi'," Buxtorf, 
Ltx. liab. This ia doubtless the word to which Cowel 

" 0«B SaoBBAiGss or Goujb." — WImt is "one 
soiieruigne of ■;olde," which forms the subject of 
a bequest iu the will of Thuiuas Tongc, CUren- 
ceux Kin^ of Arms in the year 16d<j [1534?], 
proved the following year by his widow, who is 
known as Mrs. Clarenceas, a favourite attendant 
of Queen Mary ? E. E. Ebtcol'bt. 

[" The Sovcraign," s-iys Harris, I^txiam TWAmcvm, 
" was n piece of f^obi coin current at 22 shillings and G 
pence in 1 Uenry Vlll., when by indenture of the Miat, 
a pound weight of gold of the old standard was to be 
coined into 24 sovereigns. In 34 lien. VIII. soveraigos 
were coined at 30 shillings, and half soveraigns at lOi. 
In 4 Edward VI. aoTeraigns were coined at 'Ht. apiece, 
nnd in Edw. VI. at aOs, and also iu 2 Klizabetb."] 

iEoN. — I should be glad to know the csaot 
meaning of 2Eidh : 

"And the great JEim ainlu in blood." 

In ifemcrvtm, p. 196. 


[By ^Atn wo here onderstontl the gloomy jmioil, or 

0^, describe^ l>y the poet not loiig before as "the deep 

0ight"(p.l95.)'and " the night of fear "(p. 196.) jton, 

properly tttmiUf ; any nry htig per>od.'\ 



(2"^ S. ix. 438. i X. 15.) 

That such infornintion as I communicated in 
the article called -'Military Centenarians" ("2"* S. 
ix. 438.) is not " time wasted," may be inferred 
from the fact, that similar Notes, no better au- 
thenticated, hare obtained a ^tlaeft wlCKow N<' 




of Hiilory; and that the Bubject U one ^vhich is 
acceptable to your readers, is clear from tlio num- 
ber of correspondents wlio furnish j-ou with obi- 
tuai'ies of " old- old people." Stray Notes of 
longevity may be of no earthly use to $oine per- 
sons, but J. R. M. D: has scarcely authority for 
saying they con be " of no possible use to anyotie''' 

The notes of extended military life were sent 
by me as curious bits of iuformation long since 
published and forgotten. I am glad to see iLcm 
in " N. & Q.," where they stand open to question 
and examination ; and from whence they may be 
taken by those interested in the subject as the 
starting points of their iiicj^uirics. 

To correct mistakes is essentially the mission of 
" N. & Q." Its motto and its weekly issue attest 
the fact. To cont<;nd for the exclusion from its 
iBges of records of longevity, unless corroborated 
>y birth-registers and identification, is therefore 
a little too cxactinK. My idea is, that the pub- 
lished statements snould JirH be given, so tliat 
those whose researches are directed in that chan- 
nel should investigate them in any way their in- 
genuity may suggest ^ and then follow it up by 
giving the results, in confirmation or disproof, in 
" N. & Q." 

J. B. M. D. is not consistent when he states 
that he has " serious doubts whether there in nn 
instance of any human being having completed his 
hundredth year in motlern times." Why in modern 
times ? Why not in ancient too ? In the latter 
case he certainly would have to satisfy his belief 
with evidence less conclusive than that furnished 
by birth-registers. In the interest of a matter so 
important, I think it would be worth J. II. SI. D.'s 
while to put his " serious doubts " (which no one 
else that 1 am aware of has ever broached) to the 
test. As far as military centenarians are con- 
cerned, the records of Chelsea and Kilmainham 
Hospitals would place him in [lossession of un- 
doubted evideace. 

From church or cbapel registria* we ihrtll hardly 
ever be able to prove a case of decided longevity; 
for the simple reason that birth registries had no 
existence tiiirty years ago. If any there be, the 
instances are iew and accidental. lu past years 
a baptismal register was the only national voucher 
which pretended to determine, approximately, the 
date of birth ; and if consulted now would often 
prove deceptive, thousands not being baptized for 
years after their birth. From such baptismal re- 
cords as 1 have examined, I am prepared to say 
that the search, even with reference to exalted 
personages, would almost be hopeless. And then, 
again, bow few churches haVe records as for back 
as 1613 ? If we are not to accept statements, 
unless accompanied by written proof, much that 
is depended upon as faithful at the present day 
must be discredited. Direct teslimonv from the 
mouthy in the absence of genuine written testi- 

mony, is the best conceivable evidence of an, 
thing. Judzea nnd statisticians receive it without 
scruple ; and I think it would be unwise to neg^ 
tivc records of longevity (published at the liiae, 
and likely, if untrue, to be questioned at the pl«ee 
of the centenarian's decease,) because a few in* 
stances may be adduced to show that, in them> 
selves, they bear the marks and incidents of ticti 

The Irish and Scotch certainly seem to furaiih 
the CTcatest number of centenarians, and always 
in the lower cl&sscs of society ; but it does not 
seem to me because the Ei^lish do not largely 
figure in the list, that the lush and Scotch an 
less veritable than the English, or even than 
peers. Insurance oflice registers, no doubt, con» 
tain miscellaneous lists of people ; but it is no 
proof, that because no long-lived individuals occur 
in those lists, the poor, who seldom join Insurance 
Societies, do not live to be " old-old people." It 
would indeed be curious to find in an insurance 
list any very old people. The precaution is 4 
prudent one in those who insure their lives ; bat 
I cannot help thinking, that before they take the 
step, they find a pin getting loose in the tabcrnt* 
cle, warning them of an end not many years dis» 
tant. Philosophers, perhaps, could oner ample 
reason why peers and the gentry give us no cen- 
tenarians, although it would not be difficult to get 
up A fair list of military officers who have lived 
upwards of one hundred years. 

Tlie value of my Notes, " Military Content- 
rians," is well shown by J. R. M. D.'s rvmukt 
on John Effingham. Suspicion he throws on A 
record made tiiorc than a century ago, and since 
repeated without ouestion in the European Ma- 
gazine. It should, however, be borne in mind 
that soldiers were reueived into the anny at ol* 
most any age up to the period of the French re- 
volution of 1792. I could mention the names of 
several soldiers wBo were enrolled in the service 
after the age of fifty ; nnd although I do not care 
to contend that the probabilities in John Effing- 
ham's case are in favour of its truthfulness, yet I 
can submit an instance from undoubte<1 reconb 
now lying before me, which may assist to dissipate ■ 
little of the distrust with which J. R. M. D, has 
invested the statement about old Effingham. 
Here it is, such as it is : — 

" Alexander Sptnce, a native of GUss, Ab«rd««a, bb- 
IJfted into the corps of military artificers in 1787, it the 
age of 61 ! a period of lifo when men nsuiUy rctir« Grom 
active employment, anil prepare for the leap into th« un- 
kaown future. On the 19lh November of that year, fas 
WM made lergeant-mi^or, and continaed to bold that 
erade for more thaa 21 years, till the llth .Tinuary. 
I809. Here wii n man io the run.h$ 4t the «£« of 83 ! at 
which time he was actaally expecting promotion; bat, 
disAppoioted in not receiflng a commtuion from tlM 
King, he fell rashly by hia own band. Had natUT« taken 
its course, there was every probability, from hla robust 
beaitb, of his living to a very great a^je." 

These particulars are taken from a largo folii 



ha: la. to.i 



1 oOjcial registry) entitled Detchplion 
liou* to ] 807. llie age, in this instance, 
rroborated hj a birth certificate, but is 
on ail ofith token before a magistrate, 
d, conse(]nently, be accepted in our day 
niurance Office. The date of death is an 
ry. May not John Effingham, then, have 
Bt some such age — sixty-one? And is 
ahing more remarkable in a soldier being 
J at seventy-seven, than a sergeant-major 
r-threey Admit these, and the rest is- 
Jier way of saying that John Effingham 
ctraordmarily hearty and courageous old 

M. S. R. 

(•2"* S. X. 68.) 

rder vas an off-shoot from the Augus- 
Its origin, however, is involved in ob- 
There seems to be no trace of it earlier 
beginning of the thirteenth century, at 
riod we read of a house of the Order 
id at Saragossa, under Pope Innocent 
'died in 1216. Another bouse existed 
uennes before the year 1251, and in con- 
of the friars having the direction of the 
I in that town, they were called Freres 
Queen Blanche, mother of St. Louis, 
ber son to found several houses in France 
ris, Poitiers, Caen, and other places. 
were variously designated, — Fratres de 
iiA Jesu Christi, Fratres de Socco, Sacci, 
Socciti, Saccati. In French they were 
rftrcs Sachets; nuna of the Order were 
purs Sachettes; and down to a late period 
IK street still called Rue dea Sachettes, 
cinity of St. Andre des Arts. (Hist, de 
GaRicmc, 1. 34. an. 1272.) The name 
red from the form of their coarse habit, 
iMinbled a sack, which indeed typified 
tat poverty and the austerity of their 
bey abstained perpetually from wine and 

»ere introduced into England in the year 
1 &f atthcw Paris thus notices the fact : — 

I tempore noviu Ordo apparait Londioi; (1« 
Mbns ignotis et noa pravisis, qai qui* saocii 
t indoU, Fratres Saccati yocabantnr."— .&>•(. 
, Tignr. 1589. 

rere snppressod by the General Council 
« which was held in 1274 ; and therefore 
1907, quoted by your correspondent from 
|l^ aa he suspects, inaccurate. The Order 
^]»pre«ed in consequence of any dis- 
adals, for it must have been in ita 
but because the Council had come 
itnalion of abolishing all niendicout 
I the exception of four ; thus adhering 
lie canon of the 4lh Council of Late- 

ran, an. 1215, which forbade the establishment of 
any new religious Orders whatever, " in order 
that confusion in the Church might be avoided." 
According to Widsinghom the Council — 

" Alii]aos atataa de ordinibus taebdicanlium anprobavit 
.... aliqaos reprobarit, ut Saccioos, qui intitiuantur dc 
Fa!niienti&, sive de Valleviridi." 

Is there any record of any other houses in Eng- 
land, besides those of London and Lynn ? There 
could not have been many, for there was an in- 
terval of only itventeen years between their in- 
troduction and suppression. Joh> Wji-luus. 

Aruo's Court. 

P.S. There is no mention of these friars in the 
original edition of Dugdale's Monutticon. In Ste- 
vens, however, I find two houses of the Order 
mentioned, London and Oxford. The learned 
editors of the latest edition have, moreover, 
brought to light seven others, — Cambridge, Lei- 
cester, Lincoln, Lynn, Norwich, Newcastle-on- 
Tyne, and Worcester- They commit the mistake, 
however, of stating tliat the Council of Lyons was 
held in the year 1307; deceived, I presume, by 
the authority of Wood (Hiit. and Aid. of Oxford), 
Tanner and Stevens quotin" Wood, who say the 
Order wos suppressed in England in the year 
1307. The way to reconcile the discrepancy is to 
suppose that the decree of the Council, an. 1274, 
being a matter of discipline only, was not canoni- 
cally received, published, and acted upon in thia 
country until the year 1307. 

3y a deed dated at Lynn the Sunday next 
before the Feast of All Saints, 1307, brother 
Ro^er de Flegg, Vicar-general of the Order of 
Fnars of the Penitence of Jesus Christ in Eng- 
land, ond Prior of the Friars of the same order 
dwelling in Lynn, in the name of himself and the 
other friars of his order dwelling in England, 
granted, acquitted, and quit claimed to the master 
and scholars of the house of S, Peter in Cam- 
bridjfc and their successors all the right and claim 
whic3i he and the said friars had in all their place 
with all its buildings in the town of Cambridge, 
in the parish of S. Peter without Trumpetongates. 
I have a copy of this deed, and have forwarded 
some (with copies of other documents relating to 
the house of the order in Cambridge) to my 
friend Mr. A. H. Swatman. C. H. Coopbb. 


(2°« S. X, 62.) 

Ci:.Axuu.P is wrong, but not more so than many 
— not all — " of the vanes in the country." It will 
require rather a long " Note " to set Ciummild 
right If you will bear with me, I will trj. Tb.* 
vanes are never l\ke\7 V) ga^ tS^x.. 



[2»« S. X. Aoo. I& m 

The declination, or, as it is ofl«ner termed, tbe 
variation of the magnetic neeiUe is, in this country, 
west, not east, of true pcojiraphical north. " Some 
years ago," as Clammild s>nys Iruly, " ile declina- 
tion WM MstwATil of north; " but there is no re- 
cord of its having been 22.*' The earliest reliable 
record dates from 1576, when the observed de- 
elinntion in the meridian of London (Greenwich ?) 
was 11° 15' east of north. In 1580 it attained its 
Tnaximum rate in that direction, nnmely, 11'^ IT ; 
nnd then, returning westward, from 1657 to 1662, 
the needle pointed due north. In 1720 it had 
attained a westerly declination c<iiiiil t<i 13^ 0', 
Mid, continuing its course for nearly 100 years, 
it attained the maxinium of westerly declination 
in I8l5, which was 27° 18.' It then begnn to 
return. In five years (1820) it was at 24° 11' 7" 
west, and in 1650 22^ 30'. I have seen no record 
more recent than that of 1850. It is probable 
tlie (west) declination is now 22" 5'. 

So much as respects the rates of magnetic de- 
clinatiun. Now fur a few words about the vanes. 
These apply <>idy to such as profess to indicate 
the dirociions of tiie four cardinal points— X., S., 
£., W. No doubt many of them are wronc ; but 
not in the sense, uor for the reason, which Clam- 
Mix,D sufrgests. The magnetic declination has 
nothing to do with the cardinal ])o!nts, excepting 
so far as it assists iu determining their exact di- 
rections. Geographicil north is &xed and in- 
variable. Wiint is called niagnetiu tiortii is the 
most unsettled and variable of natural phenomena. 
"True as the needle to the pole" is a pretty 
poetical liction, but not a pbilosophicnl fact. Not 
only is the direction of the magnetic needle vari- 
able us respects locality, pointing due norlb in 
one piirt of the world, and westward and eastward 
of north at other parts ; changing from year to 
year, and throiigh.fonjr series of years — but it is 
subject also to seasonal variations, day and night 
variations, and storm variations innumerable. 

That many vanea, ancient as well as modern, 
are greatly at fault, is no newly-formed opinion of 
mine. I believe any careful observer might easily 
satisfy himself that there is a ntriaUan in the car- 
dinal points of these public directors, as well as 
in the magnetic needle. What is popularly culled 
true north at one part of a town will be found to 
vary 10° or 20° from true (I) north at another 
part of the some town. How are such errors to 
be accounted for ? Through the obstinacy or the 
ignorance of the persons who were employed to 
fi.x tlie vanes, who confounded magnetic north 
with gi-'ometrical north, or |>erhaps did not know 
the dliferenee, or would not be instructed by those 
who did know. J. O. N. U, 

Paris in 1669. (Humboldt, Cotmot, L 17JS.) H 
attained its maximum variation westiran] in Ln- 
dun in 1815, reaching 24° 27' 88", ind at FWrv h 

1814, reaching 22^ 54'; at the rate of 8' 52* n> 
niinlly in London, and of S' 6" at Parts. The 
crvaiest variation on record is at the Ci-p- >■'" 
Good Hope, where in 1813 it reacheil wc- 
of the true north 28', its mean annual rii(.\ 
being 7' 53". At Berlin, Kncke fon 
fifteen years (1839 to 1854) the maj; 
nation had diminished 1" 49J'; the v.: 
therefore been at the rate of 7i' per i 
it has been a little greater in the second lui: : 
the term than the firit. The declination at l'i:-i'.'; 
in 1854 was 14° 56' 52". (Year Book of / ■ 
1850, p. 104.) At London, in 185i>, the am . r 
of declination was, according to the P!. 
Almamc, 21" 30' west. If this be con 
trogrode movement haa been at the rate m 4 oiu; 
per annum. The points on tbe earth'a aarfw 
where the variation is tlte tame arc shown is At 
Pennif Cyclopadia ('* Terrestrial Mugmda^" 
p. 237.). As the vanes for cxhil-li'"- •>"< diie(> 
tion of the wind in this and other : poiat 

to the tritt north, the magnetic < ...i.-u doa 

not afiect them. But the variation of this decii* 
nation in the same place makes it neoeMmJL 
reconstruct from time to time the isogti 
of the magnetic charts. T. J. ," 

Licb field. 

This varies in different jilaces, where also its rate 

of deviation varies. In London the roagiietic 

aeeil/e pointed to tbe true north in 1657, and at 


(2»* S. i.\. 142. 365.) 

Under tliia head I enclose some farther 
Tbe first are from a " MS. Index to ChorKn,* 
in the Register House, Edinburgh ; the Iml 
being the property of the Writers to the S^goA 
and preserved m their Library : — 

Ainslie burgen de JeJborgli. —Carta Con lUvUi •< 
Jacot>o Ainislie sac filio de duobus bonis ex iiirl*«i>^ 
trail viol Vicecanonicorum Unrgi de Jedborefa, Koabni^ 
24 Martii IMi. 

Ainslie MtTTutori Burgen de E^ia. — Carta Coa f» 
temnim de Deniiok, Urigeud, fire Boxbiusti, 3C ' 

Ainslio advot-alo. — Carta Magistro Comelio 
lie CoTitbroppOl in Baroiiiam de IMphingaloM 
Uaddingtou and Rdinbur^b. 18 Junii 16M. 

Ainslie. — Carta Con Magistro Cornalto mHOOnm I 
taam inibi caiitaut. 

The second charter on tlii- • idently AA 

by which the individual in .-.•■• enlfrtl 

on the lands mentioned, p. 142. i Itc last kos ■( 
date "ivcn, but as the next date that ctfcnr* ^ 
l()47, it may be supposed to be « yturor"' 

P '■- - to the published " ^ will . 

a ' Ic amount of ii i a«UtlNi 

to i.M.L ■^,i:,i at page 353., i--,., n.iU r«gaf4 < 
James Aiuslie nnd the other membm 9t 

»>« Sw X. Am. la 'SO.] 



•fitmily. As these volutnea, however, are easily 
accessible, farther qaotAtion is imnecessnry. 

The foliowinjr Notes ore from the Register of 
Kirths for Edinburgh, which I happened to be 
examining recently Tor another purpose : — 

!4 Octob. ICll. Jii5. Hainslii- Bntlins, Issobell Howie- 
, * s. o. James, w. Johnoe Jocksoue, D»ruX J«hna«- 


29 KovembrU, 1612. James Aiiulie, Merchant, luobell 
Hoirieaone, as. n. Thomas, w. Johnae Caimichaell, James 

19 Octobri«, 1617. James Ainalie Bailyen, bsobell How- 
iesone, a s, n. George, yr. Jaroes Dalyell, David Kicbard- 
lone — Mr. Jo» Hnv. 

14 Mali, 1619. Jimna Ainalie, merchant — Isobell How- 
iesooe, a H- a. J«nct, w. Johnne Uelscbe:), aUvocat, Joluue 
Spence, tailor, Jobnno Trotter, merchant. 

9 Februsrli, 1CI5. Andrea Ainslie, merchant — Marion 
Wilkie, a A. n. Jonct, vr. Johnne Murray, Alexander 

31 Martii, 1616. Andrew Ain.slie, merchant, Marion 
TV'ilkJ«, a d. n. ilargaret, vr. Jumes Ain8U«>, W"° Wilkie. 

31.1 Augusti, 1C18. Andrea Ainslie, merchant, Marione 
Williii?, s d. n. B.trbaro, w. David Ricbardeone, BaDius 
Patrick Black. 

24 Janii. 1621. Andrea Ainslie, merchant, Marione 
Wilkie, a d. n. Kachei, Andrew I'arves, Johnne \VilJ(.ie, 
yomif^nr, and George IlammiUoua. merchants. 

ly August, 1623. Trysday Andrea Ainslie. merchant, 
^JKorione Wilkie, a i. n. Marione, w. Johnne Bclschis, od- 
"^ James Kae, merchant. 

Oetob. 1625. Andrea Ainglie Bnllins, Marione Wilkie, 
m Jl. n. Jenne, vr. I>avid Johnstoun, Archibald Tod. and 
William Geechen, merchant. 

19 Norembris 1628. Andrea Ainslie, merchant, Mari- 
one Williie, a a. n. Johnne, w. James Carmicbael ol Wes- 
trvball, Johnne Wilkie, W"". Geechen, M^ Cornelias 

Thorsdar, 1 Martii, 1627. M^ Cornelias Ainslie, Jenne 
▲chisooe, a s. d. James, w. S'. Johnne Hamilton of Pres- 
toun. Knight, Gilbert Achcsone, Archibald Tod, M'. 
Sjcoll llrown. »nd Jn» Msrjorib^ka. 

X Febroarii. 1629. M'. Comelihs Ainslie, Jeane Ache- 
MNie. ■ s. n. Thomas, w. M'. Thomas Sinserff, W. Thomas 
Kicolaoiie, M'. Roger Mowet, Gilbert Neilsooe, Robert 
Hnme. Thomas Dawling. 

2.^ Aprilis, 1630. M'. Cornelius Ainslie, Jeane Achasone, 
a d. n. I«obcll, w. Andrea Ain.4lie Ba1liu«, Archibald Tod, 
Johnne Inj^li^ M'. Johnne Makmath. 

ICi JonuBiii, 1632. M^ Cornelias Ainslie, Jeane Achc- 
sone, a Sonne named Cornelia*, wit Captlane Williame 
Adtesone, M'. Cornelias Inglis, Jo^. Gilmour, M'. Jo". GiU 
noar his son, Thomas CarmichacU, merchant, and Patrick 

14 XoTembris, 1634. M'. Cornelius Ainslie, Jesne Aclii- 
■eoiv a d. n. I.siobell, witnesses, Andreas Tod, Bnlliae of 
£dinbargli, Andre.i Ainslie, merchant, Archibald Drum- 
moad of Gibbliestonn, Cap. William Achesone, Thomas 
Dawling, M'. John Gilmour, advocat. 

h Septembris, 1636. Mr. Conieliiis Ainslie, Jeane Ache- 
•oncv a R. n. Archibald, witii. Andrew Tod, Andrew Ains- 
lie, merch:inta, M^. John Gilmour, advocat, )!<'. Michael 

In the Town Council lists of Edinburgh the 
ne of Jiunes Ainslie oecura aa 4th Bailie in 
2d Bnilie 1(116; Ist Baiiiu 1621 : that of 
lAiidraw Ainslie ns 4th Bailie 1C24, 3d Bailie in 
h629. and 2d Bailie In IG36. 

have been soiue connexion be- 

tween the families of Ainslie nnd Inglis of CSni- 
mond. their iiunies occurring mutually as witneai 
iu these registers us folio ws : — 

20 Febroarii, 1634. M'. Comcliui Inglis, Jonet Kellie, 
a soDoe, n. Cornelius, wit. James Inglis of Cramond, M'. 
lliomas Ram»ay, minister ut Foulden, Patrick Inglis of 
Eivingstonn, Mr. Cmrnelios Ainslie. 

In Douglas's flaronftg-e of Scotland, 1798, pp. 
300., npwnrds of two pages and a half are ilevoted 
to "Ainslie of Pilton, now representstive of the 
Ainslics of Dolphinfrton." They are first brought 
into view as the branuh of an English family 
driven into Scotland nt the period of the NoriBan 
Conquest, and uettling there under Irlaicolm Ceaa- 

It is not, however, until the reign of WiUiaa 
the Lion that they became individualised in tke 
person of Thomas do Aiuslie. From him the 
David Ainslie of the obove charter is "XI. David 
Ainslie of Fala, whose personal estate being small 
he l>etook himself to the mercantile life in Jed- 
burgh." He got from Jnuies V'l, a charter under 
the great seal : " Davidi Ainslie mercatori bur- 
gen de Jedburgh et Jncobo filio sue et inr-redi np- 
parent!, etc. of jwrt of the barony of Uliston in 
Koxburghshire, dated 4t.h Mnruh, 1585." His 
wife WHS Mary Ruthertbrd, and their eldest son, 
the object of the Querj-, is — 

" XII. James .\in9llc. Esq , mentionod in his father's 

charter above narrated. He settled in Edinbnrfrh, where 

I he became a considefable merchant and anfuired sosno 

lands in the south coiinlr}', which appears by a. charter 

I under thr great sanl Jncobo Ainidie Mercatori burgeii da 

I Kdinbor!,'! lerrMrum Av Ditmick, etc in Koxburglwbire 

I dated anuo liio'. He was afterwards designed by that 

title. But tbfintf in the reipn of Kinff Oharkt J. wUkout 

I fMMe, the representaUou devolved upon his brother." 

The line of James Ainslie now disappears from 
the narrative, which is carried on, or rather re- 
t Buiued again, in that of his brother : — 

j "XIII. George Ainslie, second aon of David of Fala, 
before mentioned." 

From the evidence already adduced the latter 
sentence in the account of James Ainslie, and 
which I have mBrke<i in italics, is incontestably 
in error. Whatever may have become of the re- 
presentation, instead of dying without itnte he lel^ 
both children and grnndcliiklren, and some of his 
sons certainly survived the death of Charles !>, as 
in 1654 C<:)melT«s Ainslie is scnred heir of C<>»- 
queig to his brother Michael. 

Would W. D. have any objections to send me a 
copy of the document referred to (p. 142.) ? Fresh 
inormation m^t thna be elicited; and while 
private inquiries are met and errors noted, if not 
corrected, some progress would be made towards 
that " book of old Scotch gentry " desiderated by 
n correspondent (p. I0&.). 

I may meuliwA tbnl t*« tvnai ^1 <to.t KInw^^** 
we, Or' a crtss ftor^, wi>i\e. Cw\^ *^ ^^^"^ 



[2-*aX.Aoo, J8.*«. 

hand issuing out ol' the wreath, and grasping a 
scimitar, proper. Motto, "^Pro Rege et Patrin." 
WitUAM Gallowat. 
D, Gardner's Crest, Edinburgh. 

(a-" S. is, 444.) 

I should have replied before now to the third 
point of Fbofessok De Moboais'b Query, bad I 
not expected that an answer would come from 
some correspondent nearer to the great centi'e of 

I have volumes i. and ii. of the work referred 
to, which I bought at a book-st4iU in Liverpool u 
number of jears ago, at a time when I was in- 
tent on forming a collection of all the older works 
on matbematics. These volumes, which ure in 
old-fasbioned full-binding, appeared never to have 
been used. The title of the first is similar to that 
of the second, as copied by Fbofessob De Mob- 
OAs, but the date is 1769. The motto on the 
frontispiece (which represents a scene illustrative 
of it), is: 

" Aristippui Philoaopliut SocrAticus, Naufragio cum 
ejectas ad Khodiensiuin litiu asimadvertisaet Geotnttrica 
schemata descripla, cxctamavisse ad comites ita dicitar, 
Bene Bperemus, Iloiniaum cnim vestigia video. Vitrue. 
ArchiUct. lib. G. Prwf." 

After the title-page, and headed bj a vignette 
emblematical of the studj of ttie sciences, is : 

"Auspiciis Frederic! Harvey, Episcopi Dorrenais Su- 
preme Curie, &c. PromOTcntc SociclateDablinengi. Fa- 
vcntiboa Joiepfao lleno", Roger Palmer, et Guticlrao 
Deane, Armigeris, omnigenic eraditionis Ma-ceiiutibuv 
Josepbut FenD ollm ia Academia Nauatensi Pbiludopbiic 
Professor, pnr» et mixta: Matbeaeos Elementa digesjit et 
publicavit, in luom scholai ad propagandas Artes in Hi- 
berniu.rundat^. Anno Cliristi Ji.DcaLJcvni. die iv menais 

This precedes an alphabetical list of subscribers, 
including noblemen, prelates, judges, and other 
persons of distinction. The body of the volume 
js occupied by the EUmtid» of Ewlid, with which 
the pagination and also the " signatures " of the 
sheets commence, and which extend to 344 pages. 
But this is preceded by 176 pages of introductory 
matter, opening with a statement of the sock-ty's 
resolution to extend the course of instruction 
given at the Drawing School to other branches of 
Knowledge, plans of which are given shortly, as 
at paffc xxviii. of volume ii. Then follows a short 
sketch of a Course of Mathematius ; next, a. 
"■ Plan of the System of the Physical World " (an 
astronomical treatise occupying 138 pages) ; after 
which come brief " Plans " of the " System of 
the Moral World;" of the " Military Art ; " of 
the " Mercantile Art," and of the " Naval Art ;" 
and, lastly, " An Extract from the Plan of the 
School vt Mechanic Arts, where Architects, Pain- 
tera, Sculptors, and in generaJ all Arlial* and 

Mi\nufacturer5, receive the instru''!'' ••- '•< ' 

roelry, Perspective, Statitks, Dyn 

&C., which suit their respective J :..:.. 

may contribute to improve their Taste muJ 


Should PaoFESSoa De Mosgax desire to ex- 
amine the first volume, I shall be gUd to enable 
him to do so. Cuablks Booth. 


(2"« S. X. 87.) 
There arc few i)urtuits in which person* ar« 
much tempted to niukc rnsli conjectures as in 1 
investigation of the origin and meaning of 
and names, an<I thoiigii these conjectures are < 
casionally of great service in leadin?^ to a 
etymon, yet as a general rule they arc uiiwt falb 
ciou!>, and should only be hazarded when the drri^ 
vations already given by competent authorities are 
really unsatislkctory. When PiiiLOLocr? wrote 
" I am not aware that a.i\y satitfaHory ■■ 
has yet been given of the origin or du 
the word char, which we find only in tciiup';"*!- 
tion "(!) he had strangely overlooked the deriva- 
tion given by Richardisun, Coleridge and othcn 
from A.-S. ctrran, cirruiL, or ci/t-att, to turn ; ihia 
we say " to do a good turn ,- " and in Yorluhire 
and elsewhere "to do a hand's tiini," iiteans to 
render assistance. Bailey derives it from 
care, but the former seems preferable, 
strangely still had he overlooked the nun 
instances in which the uncumpoundcd wordi 
work, job, &c. occurs in early wriccrs. Narffcl 
Richardson, Ray, IluUiwell, «c. giv 
which need not be repeated here. Tliv 
furnished by me towards the Philological buactjf'frJ 
Dictionary, is the earliest that has as yet beioi ' 
brought forward. It occurs in a " Debate of the 
Body and Soul, 13th Century." (Poems ofW. 
Mapes, Cam. Soc. App.) : — 

" Dote as ton bere me aboute, ne mi^t 

I do tbe Icate cfiar." — v. 79. 
So also in a later version of the same (fuurtMOlb 
century) : — 

'^ And wfaoD thou beddest me forth ilr^'vaii. 

And i-put to eny char." — v. 189. 
" Ther doth so redi fjnt dore openc, 
Ne may helpe uo >eyn eJiar.' — v. 271. 

So in the Chester Plays : — 
"Tea Jet h>Tn rise if tbnt bym dare! 
For and I of hyiu maye be aware 
He bo<le never a worse charrt 
Or that he wende aware." 

■ Shakt. Soe., vol. Ii. p. «- 

The following is from Sternberg's North 
thire Glostarif : — 

" I have neav time now up tlv 
There ia odd charrs for mc : 


Bpo. 18. '61 

o. 18. '60.] 



ill be seen from these examples that the 
Vtr-ivomaii is most expressive, when applied, 
nays is, to a iroman who conies out for the 
odd jobs that IU8J be put upon her. 

J. Eastwood. 

brrespondent irho signs himself as Put- 
in grflve error as regard? the deriva- 
he word char-iroman, or, ns it is better 

le first place, the word chartered is not an 
ent for htretl. A ship chartered for a Toy- 
k ship concerning winch certain nrticles of 
£B t nave been drawn up, under the conji- 
BlLicb she must sail, the charter-party 
B Written document under the condilioua 
h she is freighted. The document, not the 
liring, is the chiirter-pnrty. The very word 
id implies the execution of some written 

iidly, the noun ch/ire or chore, the verb 
r, and ibe participle charing (ire by no 
}f unlmpient use. A woman will tell you 
tgoes out to chare, and that her neighbour 
(Mrs. Smith's charing. Sir Walter Scott, 
if his novels, speaks of " the maid who milks 
>8 the meanest chare» ; " in which passage 
es word for word fronj Shaksnerc (A. and 

13.}. In the play from wtiicL Sir Walter 
[notes another instance of the use of the 
icurs (,A. tiiul C, V. 2.), " When ih&u bast 
is chare." 

in his Collection o/ Proverbs, gives "That 
char'd, as the gofni wife said wlien she had 
her husbond." Under the form chare the 
ecurs hundreds of times in the writings of 
' the American authors of the doy. 
Ily must apologise to the readers of " N. & 

stating such a well-known fact os that a 
Hnan means a woman who does charet, or 
» of work. W. C. 


says : " Chw ; chare is a job, a small 
■work, perhaps from Sax. care, care." Dr. 
Ison derives chare, chare-trontan, from A.- 
fran, acyran, vertere, revcrtere ; and he 
char-woman is one who tnkcs her turn or 
any work, who goes out for a day's turn at 
Now jimrne is used b^ Chaucer for a 
' nd a jiiurneyman is strictly a "man who 
jlhe tiiy ;" and I take it that a charwoman 
hired by the <Zay, and that the word 
n" is a corruption of jovrwoinan. 


ictionary of Etymology, Mr. Hcnsleigh 
soys, under the hem! of " Chare. A 
of work; chare-woman, one who is 
Ha ocensional turn. A.-S. eyre, a turn ; 


cerran, Du. Keereu, to turn; Gael, car, turn, 
twist." . R. F. Sketculev. 

Ddkb of Buckingham : James Douchc (2°* 
S. s. 23.) — Apart from the historical interest at- 
taching to the account communicated by &Ib. 
j£MKtNCiS, there arc one or two minor points con- 
cerning which it may be desirable to seek foi-ther 
information. Wiio was the writer of the " Post- 
script," and whence written ? North Currey, or 
Curry, is a village in Somersetshire about six 
miles from Taunton, and is stated in the account 
to be but three miles from the residence of the 
narrator. Was he related to the Douch family 
of Dorsetshire, one of whom was rector of Stal- 
bridge, and tutor of the Hon. Robert Boyle during 
his earlier residence there ? In the chuucel of the 
church at this place is a monument, recording, 
beside the death of William Doucli, " anno fatali 
1648," those also of his successor John Douch, 
(ejected the following year, but restored in 1662) 
who died in 1675, and of his two sons Jame$ and 
Chailes, who both died in 1C74. Of these latter 
two no ages are given. Could the " Jamea 
Douche" referred to above be the former of 
these ? Stalbridge, though on the borders of the 
county, is about thirty-seven miles from Taun- 
ton, but the distance may be less from the locality 
in which the writer resided. It may not be out 
of place to correct an error into which Hutchins, 
in his History of Doriet, has fallen in confusing 
the two rectors above mentioned. He states *, in 
reference to John Douch, thut he was " instituted 
in J621 ; was native of this CO., and had the care 
of the great Mr. Boyle after he left Eton." As, 
by the record on his tomb above quoted, his death 
occurred in 1675, thirteen years after his restora- 
tion to the living, and fifty-four years must there- 
tore have elapsed from his first iiiduirtion thereto, 
it is quite clear that Ilutcbirs has overlooked his 
predecessor William, who was instituted in I621, 
and to whom the reference in the Encyclo. Britan. 
art. " Uoyle " belongs : — "He (Boyle) remained 
sometime under the care of one of bis" (father's) 
" chaploius, who was the parson of the place. ' 
Some farther light may be thrown on this subject 
by Mr. jEKJdSGs, who may be able to supply the 
date of the communication sent. 

HKwmr W. .S. Tatlok. 


Toads rooso iw Stone (2°* S.x. 10. 56.) — I 

have heard of several cases in which toads and 
frogs have been found alive in stones and also in 
coiu, although I am not able to give the exact par- 

* In one of the earlier edilionit, but which I regret not 
having "msJe a note of," jay memorandum baviog been 
Uken some yean since from a copy ccurteoualy pUcei! 
at mv diipoial by the rector of Stalbridge, tlie Rev. Lit- 
tleton C. Powyi, M.A. 



[2«« S. S. Ab«. is. 'itK 

ticulars from memory. Curiously enough, bow- 
ever, I met -with tbe following xfew days ajioto 
the Durham Couuly Adctrtiter for Friday, 20lh 
July, J860: — 

" Fact in Natural Ilutary. — Twenty-three years ago 
Mr. Wray, of the Uucby Farm, Ft n Jleton, in th« presence 
of Mr. Bircb, pat <t ftyjs into an old pint pot, covered it 
with a piec* of ploLe, united tliein by plajtar of Paris and 
borieU all about two-and-a feet ander ground, wcl ciny 
beiiig riunnied cloBely round. On Tiieaday week iho 
creature was exbumud ; Uit! Crog was iilive, but dii.>il in a 
few minatcs aftw exposuro to the air." — Salfitrd Vttkly 

This seems to hare been a more successful ex- 
periment than that of the French AcaJemy re- 
ferred to at p. 10. J. A. Ps. 

CAiDWAi. Mazaius {'2"'> S. X. C8.)— For the 
fullest and most satisfactory list of the coUectioa 
of pieces known by the name of Mazarinadett I 
beg leave to refer your correspon<lent J. M. to tbe 
following work : Jitbliographie (let Mazun'miJeSy 
ptiblJee pour la Solicit de rHUtoirt de France, par 
C. Moreau, 3 tocues, Paris, 1850-1. This publi- 
cation contains not only a list of the complete 
titles of 4082 of these pamphlets, with au appen- 
dix comprisui|r an auditioa of 229 mure, but 
interesting bibliographical details, both in the in- 
tiodufitioa and in the body of tbe work ; besides, 
a* Iha eml of the •'ird volume, " Liste Alpbabe- 
ti%«e des Imprimeurs el Libroires i^ui ont public 
dM Miiziirinades," " Liste Chronolo^jque " (of tbe 
Mazuriiuiilct themselves), aad ^^ Table des Xuuis 
proprcs et des Anonymes." 'AA/ew. 


Oliver Cbomweix's Lettek (2^ S. x. QA. 93.) 
— Lord Mohson's reading is porfectly correct : it 
sihould have been printed MoHgon instead of 
Morisoii, but for a clerical error in the transcript. 
As doubtless your correspondent feels an interest 
ir\ papers connected with his family, I have much 
pleasure in having been enabled to discover a 
subsefjuent letter relatin<T to the same subject, 
(enclosing a copy of the Protector's letter,) which 
runs 03 follows : — 

" Gestlexem. — Tbe Ire of the Lo. GeneraUs to S». 
Heorie Tane concemingo S'. John Monson's case to bee 
report«d to the haate (wherof a copie is b«r« lacloted) 
so fullie cxpreueth his Loi". acace of hia gufiisrioga, and 
liow much tbe parliamonU and Annies bono'' ia cod- 
cernetl theria toucbiag his just separacOa, tliat I shall 
forbcare to trouble you with anie adait On onolie ill to that 
ucemingc relieccOn upon my selfe ihnt the report of his 
COM (ordered by tbe Com". concen\ing Ike breach of 
articlci to bi-e mjide by iiiee to the Parlianieat) bath bin 
long in my bands. I doc confesae it, but w"> all that the 
want of an opportunity, and not of my eadevo", bath bin 
tbe cause thereof. However, oa the case and condicOo of 
S*. John Blonson now stands I referre it to yo" owne 
jadf^ment whether you will thinkc fit to proceed upon yo' , 
Bescqaertraccn of him for the non-payment of y* re- ' 
Tnavnilc-r of bii lioe being (as bee alleadgcth) about 
92da (h«« atronRlie insisting for tha abatement thereof ai ', 
some recompface for bii damages soitojrned (contrary to ( 

the agreement and eagagemeut uf the imblique faith ' 
tbe army auto him upou the Treaty f"- '■ c,.,r..n.i 
Oxford) or whether to acce^it in lieu i 
menl of 90" per ann. out of bis Tythrt 
county of Lyncolno upon the Uiiit8tr> 
oflered to yon in bis behalfe, and hee si 

a« I conceive no disadvantage will redoii:. . : 

all fiirther prejudice nilbe fairly recaove<i w-" (Hiicrwuo 
may befall him, and vf'' will enforce him to troulila the 
PafUoment and Geaerall '< ' .:» ti. 

dresMO, I leave it to yo' j ^ d raat. 

" Yo' humble servant, 
" Inner Temple, " Ei>m. PEtLDSAirs.j 

(,Atidres»ed) " For my honored freiod 
Samuell Mover llsq. and the rcit of 
the worthy gentlemen Com" for 

.\t Haberdasher*' HaU." 

Qi'Ei^ Eleawok ajid Faib Rosamoku (2^ 

ix. 446.) — These linos are taken, Ii 
correctly, from Warner's Albion' ■ 
1602. They occur in the 41st chawi 
which contains the story of Fair J;- 
are as follow : — 

" With that she dosbt her on tbe lippea, so dyed do 
Hard was the heart that goae the blow, soft w«ra I 
lips that bled." 

The tale of Argentile luid Curan in the seeoal 
volume of Percy's Reliijues forms the '20th chapter, 
and the tale of the Patient Countess, in tha fint 
volume, the 42nd chapter of the poem, 

In the remarks prefixed to the tale of Argenlile 
and Curan, Bishop Percy says — 

" Though now Warner is so seldom 
contemporaries raDke<l him on a level 
called them the Homer and Virgil (i 
Warner rather resembled Ovid, whos 
he se«iiui to have taken for hi* model, : la 

perpetvol poero from the deluge down t^ tix. 

EUzabatb, full of lively digressions and entorloiaiaCj 
episodes. And though he it sometimes harab, affbdMij 
and obscure, he often displays a moat charming and 
thetic simplicity ; as whore he describes Eleanor's hoiihj 
treatment of ttosamoad : — 

' With that shn dasht her,' " Jko. 

Warner's poem is reprinted ia thefouctliTului 
of Chalmers' collection. ILGkj 

Taafb aki> Gokdos Families (2*^ S. x. SOj 
— In my recently published !" ' ' i;.^ of Rtf 
Jamexa IrUh Armi/ List, h> lie fouM 

a memoir of the "Taafe" fnuL,,,. -.^L^iiding ortf 
six pages; as also memoirs of those ofCliutotiaatl 
Jones, with notices of Gordons and Lowes. 

JoHK D'Attwr. 

48. Summer Hill, Dublin. 

Maxs Wiltshibk (2"* S. ix, 502.) — Iti4iiior 
bae been made for this person. She was remuve ' 
to a lunatic asylum about two y«an ago. 

, kvQ. 18. '60.] 



U: TUB COKOB, Yjikmoutb (2'"'^ S. X. 
A sidj^lar uiis.ippropriution of the word 
teeurs in tbe above reference. You <lo not 
B the wall* Gouge lemling to the termi* 
unless there tg a luistuJce, as the direction 
ly alludes to tlie Coiu:e, tlic iminc of a 
in Yiirmbuth leading i'roni George Street 
North (Jiisv ; near which, on (be opposite 
the river, is the r;iilwiiy st.'ition. For an 
t of the Couge, vide Swindcn's Uutlonj of 
ith (p. 21. \ in ivhich he flutes that the 
t of\arnioath had his residence probablj 
near the Congo, circa temp. Hen. I. He 
litea the mention of this locality from some 
MUM. Edw. II. and Kd\r. IIL The ancient 
f tak street is preserved to the present day. 
*y Manshin, the elder, in his Hittory of 
Uk, ably edited by Mr. C. J. Pnlmer, says ; 

iliipfSM ladTCiMU did arrive and com* for that 
(ta land goods, Ac} to a certain place called th« 
rcb is yet knowen by svideiica to be in tiie norlU 
tha said towoc .^t tl'iis tlajc The said Congee, 
French word, is in Knglish leave or licence — so 
m rcsorttrd thither to bare leave or the Provoi^te 
utA nnlad*, &c. ; and after there dues paid, tbe 
I gmve them leave to sajle ta y* City of >'orwich, 
ler iJaces." 

the youn;»er Mansbtp conjectured the word 
3 be derived from the Ijatin word congia- 
Vide Mr. Palmer's edition of Manahtp, 
M7. Thob. Wm. ICiNo (York Herald). 

QAirmxoit has made n m-ent mistake here. 
Boiog in question is called the Conge, in- 
if tjie "Gouge." It was anciently called 
ig's Conge, there being a place called Gur- 
I^onge, the site of which is unknown. 
p derives it from the Latin, congiarium, a 
gift; or from the French, conge: as if the 
got from the crown olficcr who dwelt 
»ve to disch:iige their cargoes. 
word conge is in frequent use by the Nor- 
uantry to signify a bow or salutation, 

E. G. R. 
r correspondent Mr. Gantillox will find 
• "Gong" nt Lowestoft, if rot nt Yar- 
meaning, if I remember rightly, one whole 
breadth, of meahes in making a fishing- 
tK whole "go" of meshes, as it might now 

Lowestoft people call tbe bent irons at 
nl of the trawl and shrimp nets " Lutades," 
onnced nt lenst. Is this Irom A.-S. Lut-aii, 
Khia^ tee.? I have not foun<l the word 
pHHp up tbe coast than Aldcburgb, nor 
KB^anj provincial dictionary. 


place at Tarmonth which Ms. Gantillox 
onge is really the Coii'/c, for the origin uf 
I Manship and Faluer's YariinHUli, i. 57. 
J. W. Cooper. 

Bath Familt (S"* S. ix. 487. ; x. 54.) — Tbe 
valuable particulars fnrnisbcd by Mb. I>'.\i:tox 
i<eeDi rather tu belong to a did'ercnt family thaa 
that of Devon, the publihlied accounts of the 
Bath, Bathe, or De Bathe family of Ireland de- 
riving their descent from Hugh or Hugo de Bath«^ 
who *' accompanied Earl Strongb<jw in his e.xpe- 
dition to Ii-eland about 1172, and bad grants of 
many nianon and lands in the counties of Dublin, 
Meath, Louth, and Drogheda."— (Debrett.) The 
family were first raised to the baronetage in 1663 
or 1666, but the title expired in 1686. (Fide 
Broun's Saronetage, Burke's Gen. Arm. («. v. 
Bath of Atbcarne Castle, co. Meath.) The arms 
ofDeBothe are totally dissimilar to those given 
in Mr. Tittikett''s Coliecliotu, which will be found 
in Burke under "Baa (Bedfordshire)." viz. "Gu. 
a chev. arg. betw. H plates," while those of De 
Bathe or Bath are " Gu. a cross betw. 4 lions ram- 
pant arg." " Henry de Bathe, Lord Chief Jus- 
tice of England, in the reiiin nf Ucnry HI." is 
mentioned by Sir Richard Broun among the an- 
cestors of the present Baronet, Sir Wm. Plunkett 
de Bathe of knightstown, co. Meath, in Ireland, 
where the family has been located uninterruptedly 
from its first settlement in the 12th century. 

Heskt W. S. TAYtoa. 


PouM nr ,J. G. LocRHABT (2°'' S. X. 4.1.)— Your 
correspomlent is mistaken in suppling that the 
facetious lines on William Maginn have not been 
printed before. They are included in a collection 
of Epitaphs by Dr. Pettigrew, published in 1857 
(in IJohn's AiUiqttarian Lihrari/). 

The "poem" in question is there given as the 
"Epitaph' on Maginn at Walton-on-Thames. I 
remember, not lung ago, looking over the inscrip- 
tions in that church and churchyard, but without 
observing this one, which would not be likely to 
escape notice. 

Yet, as Dr. Pettigrew in his Preface states that 
he haj been anxious to avoid fictitious epitapb.s, 
we moat, I suppose, presume that this one, not- 
withskaading us extremely ludicrous character, 
has a '^ local habitation" at Walton. 

Perhaps some local subscriber to " N. & Q." 
would enlighten us as to the fact? 

JoHB BiniON GAiUTiir. 


SixTLNK Bible (I" S. il. 408. ; i"* S. x. 78.)— 
Al^r I sent a Note and Query on the above, I 
met with tbe following in course of readuig Dr. 
James's defence of his Beltum Papule : — 

" I have seen four or (itc" (Sixtines) ~ and they ara 
in like sort very exactly mended. I have noted tkr 
places iu my Booh of flu M'art," 

Th« late Rev. Joseph Mendham, of Sutton Gold- 
field, Warwickshire, had one In his possession. 
There is room for in(\ttvc-j -j^V ^wj«wb.V.v»sy»- 



[»"* S. X. AfG. fS 


ncBs OP Irbland (a*^ S. ix. 485.) — Mr. Ga.b- 
8TIK refers to the Lords Justices of Ireland having 
in 1629 conferred the honour of knighthood on 
Sir James Ware, and inquires if any other in- 
stances can be adduced. There are numerous 
instances on record. 

Sir William Drury, Lord Justice, not lonn; be- 
fore his death (1579) dubbed— Sir William Pel- 
ham, Knt.; Sir William Gerrard.Knt.; SirWilliam 
Gorge, Knt. ; Sir Thomas Purret, Knt. ; Sir Ed- 
ward Moore, Knt.; Sir Peter Carew, Knt.; Sir 
George Bouchier, Knt.; Sir >ViiIiam Stanley, 
Knt. ; Sir Patrieke Wulshe, of Watcrford, Knt. ; 
Sir Edward fStton, Knt. 

Adam Loftui!, Archbishop of Dublin, and Sir 
Henry Wallon, Knt., Treastirer at Wars, Lords 
Justice?, knignted 

7tli Sept. 1582, Sir Anthony Coklough of Tin- 

6th May, 1583, Sir John Brougb, Baron of 
Leitrim ; Sir BorneweU filetuinge, Baron of Slone ; 
Sir Patrick, Baron Trinvleston. 

Adaiu Loftus, Archbishop of Dublin and Lord 
Chancellor, and Sir Robert Gardiner, Chief Jus- 
tice of the (jucen's Bench, Lords Justices, knighted 
— Sir Woltei- Butler, Sir James Butler, Sir Gar- 
rett Elmer, Sir Bichard Piercy, Sir John Eger • 

It is probable there are many other cases of a 
like nature. Joas Maclean. 


Lbqincart PAtTVTiNr, ('2'"^ S. \. 47. 97.)— The 
Saint wears a brown great coat, like that of the 
old watchmen, tightened by a cord round the 
waist, with wide sleeves reaching only to the el- 
bows. His hands, feet, and head are bare, but 
there is a slight nimbus above (he latter. There 
is no cowl to the coat. The picture is much 
rubbed and has little artistic merit. Senbx. 

The Medicinai. Vibtce or Spidkbs' Webs ('2°* 
S. X. 6.) — The enclosed extract may interest Mb. 
Bix>OD, and any inquirer on the above subject. 
It is from the EnrtUful Life of n Soldier; a new 
ed., published for the widow, Edinburgh, 1852, 
p. 166. . — I 

"The a^e fits h.iving returned ■when the severe (ever 
left me, I recovered very slowly ; the moUciue I rc- 
caived, wl^ich was. adroiniatumd very irrcgnlarly. having 
dona me no food. While in this state, General Sir John 
Hope, who lately comtnanJed the fortsa in Scollind, 
happened to pay a visit to the hospital, and going ronnd 
the sick with the ttaff-sur^eon, be inquired ' what was 
the prevailing disease?' The reply was, 'fever and 

"Sir John, whose kin^ disposition is well known, 
mentioned tbit he bad heard of a cure for that disease 
amone the old women in Scotland, which wu considered 
infallible. The atafT-sureeon smiled, and begged to bear 
what it was. ■ It is,' aaia the good old general, 'simply 
a /tTjgvpi// formed of spiders' web, to be swallowed when 

the fit is comin(( on. I cannot pledge myaetf for 
eflicacy, bnt I have heard it mnch talkp-< 
staff-doctor gave a shrug, as much as lo .^ 
nonsense, looked very wise, as all doctors < 
do. and the conversation dropped. I bad keen lb 
eai;crly to the conversation, and no »ooner was I 
ral gone, than I set out in qnest of the specific. I'^ 
neetl to travel far, and returned to my room prep 
the next fit; when I felt it coming ■on, I swallo 
dose itilh the greatest conlidence in its virtue, i 
ever strange it may appear, or hard to be accoui 
I never had a Gt of the ague alter, bat got well I 
and was soon fit to march for the purpose of joinin^l 
regiment, which I overtook at Polios." 


In the south-eastern comities of Ireland. 
farmers and peasantry use the web of the spid 
extensively, for the cure of cuts, sores, bruij 
They gather large quantities off the hedgesi 
early part of the summer's mornings, when ( " 
is imprejfnated with dew, and it is kept wiili _ 
care in linen bags, not in an over dry place, and"! 
used when required for the above purposes. I 
have known au application stop violent I 
rhage from cuts, when surgeons had futl« 
plaster and other thinj^s to accomplish that ( 
I hare never heard of it taken internally before." 

S. Bei>mok 


Dr. Graham, in his Domestic Medicine, preseriba 
spider's web for ague and intermittent fevtt. 
have known large spiders — with their legs. Sit 
pinched ortl and then powdered with flour, so u i' 
resemble a pill — given for ague. I have also ae 
one instance where .a living spider, sewn up 
piece of rag, was worn as a periapt by a stria 
round the patient's neck, to charm away tlie ag 


Cleveb (2""' S. X. 67.) —It may interest: 
HoTTEs to be informed that "clever" or " clc« 
looking " is commonly used in Lancashire to signif 
a fine well-made man. 

It would seem that we have transferred lite 
word from bodily to mental activity. 

Joux J. ScABaii.t. 
Lately Curate at Ileywool 

Ma. IIoTTBJt raav be interealed to learn iJul 
the sense in which tliis word is used iu the Unitel 
States is that in which it is invariably and c-^"- 
sivelv employed by "the natives" in EastN* < 
On tlic other hand, the word "stupid" has, auv 
us East .\nglians, no reference to intcllectu:i 
ness; but describes a morose, disobliging. ii' 
able person, who likes to make himself disagr' 
to those about hira. .V 

Pecks sebvikg as Mayors (a""* S. ix. 162. 292. 
355. 454.) — The Earl of Lincoln was Mayor of 
Newark in 1768. A deputy (Robert Spra^Bg> 
Esq.) seems to hare been appointed. 

R. F. SKETCflli 

J^SLXAvo. 18. 'M.] 



»LaT1}I, GaK£K, AJSD GbRMAN M£TB£S (2"^ S. 
ix. 501.) — Your correspondent C. E. ask*, "Is 
there iu any foreign language a metre Bimilor to 
that of Tennyson"* Lockslcy Hall * " 
Yes: it is a rather faivourite metre wilh the 
Permn HaSz ; only alternating trochee and 
spondee thus : 


This metre is but an addition of four syllables to 
that in vrhich some of the chief Persian poems are 
written by Janii, AttAr, and, especially, the Mes- 
Davi of JeliUuddy n. 


NovEX. Weathbh Isdicatoe (2"^ S. ix. 50O, ; 
X. lit).) — In the Great Exhibition of 1851 (Class 
X. 151.) was a "Tempest prognosticator, or at- 
mospheric electro-magnetic telegraph, conducted 
by animal instinct;" designed and invented by 
Dr. George Merrvweather, who also published an 
Etsay (Churchill, London, 8vo. 185], pj>. (A.), 
explanatory of the contrivance by which leeches 
were induced to ring a bell as n signal of an ap- 
proaching storm. Joseph Rix. 

St. Xeols. 

Akmobial Quebibs (V^ S. ix. 484.; x. e». 
38.)— Of the arms mentioned by C. J. (p. 484.), 
' the bearincs of Cooke and Russell more nearly 
resemble tue first than those furnished in reply 
by R. J. F. (vol. X. p. 38.), the former on the 
authority of Burke's Armoury (of DarQeld), bear- 
ding .-irg. a chevron engi-. betw. 3 crosses croslet 
' Ctchoe sn., and Uussell (of Strensham) on the same 
' authority, bearing the chevron plain. The second 
^coot sable across flory argent is the arms of Man- 
nocJc, of Giflbrd's Hall, SufF. The third I am 
tinable to trace. The first coat mentioned by A. 
(p. 48-J.) is doubtless that of Keneagc, and should 
M blazoned, " Or, a greyhound courant sa. be- 
tween 3 leopards' faces, az. within a bordure en- 
grailed gules" The second " or 3 garbs gules," 
IS assigned by Guillini to "Berkly of Yorkshire." 
The armorial bearings on the fir^t poinling at 
Groombridge, as stated by Arraiger (p. 8. ut 
supra), may be Conyers impaling Laniblon ; and 
on reference to Burke's Eitirul Baronetcies^ 1838, 
p. 1*29. under " Conyers of Horden," will be found 
the following ; — 

" IX. Sir Thorais Conyers, bapl. 12 Sept. 1731 . . . m. 
Isabel (lAoghtcr of James Lnmbton, Esq. of Wbitehalt, co. 
Durhim, auU bud issue, 

" Jane, m. to William Hardy, of Chester Le Street. 

** Elixabetb, m. to Joseph Ilulcbinsoo (of g&me place). 

*■ Dorothv, m. to Joseph Barker of Sedgefield. 

- Sir Thomas, d. at Cheslcr le Street 16th April, 1810, 
when 111* baroDi-tcy became extinct." 

(Arms (of Conyers), azure, a maunch or ; (of 
..antbton), sa. a fess betw. 3 lambs passant arg.) 
If a family picture, as surmised, the above par- 
ictilars may assist Abmiobr in tracing its dis- 

posal The second I am able only to haaard 
conjectures on, too unsatisfactory to mention. 

Hknbi W. S. Tai*oe. 

SiKGLE SiippoBTEE (2** S. ix. 463.) — Mr. 
Cole of Twickenham is the present lord of the 
manor of Stoke Lync (Oxon), who is entitled to 
bear a hawk behind his arms. This right was ori* 
ginally conceded to (I presume) an Ibbelwtu, from 
which family this property descended to the Colea. 

The Lyttelton family bore anciently a single 
merman us a supporter to their arras. Since their 
elevation to the peerage, however, they have borne 
iieo (see engraving in Plot's Jlap of btafTordshire, 
monument iu AVorcester cathedral, seals of the 
family, &c.). H. S. G. 

Parat.let. Passages : Stabs ako Flowers (1" 
S. vii. 151,) — Many passages have been pointed 
out, but none of your con-espondents, as iar as I 
aiu aware, have directed attention to the following 
lines, which are to be found in Cowley's FourUi 
Book of Plantt, translated by N. Tate. The 
Amaranth is made to speak as follows : — 

" What can the puling Rose or Violet say, 

Wlioae beauty flies so fail away ? 

Fit onlv such weak infants to adorn, 

\Vho dfe as »oon as they are bom, 
. Immortal gods wear garlands of my Flow'rs, 

Garlands eternal as tbeir pon'rs; 

Kor time, that does all earthlj- things invade. 

Can make a hair fall froni my head. 

Look up, the gardens of the sky survey, 

And stars that there appear so gar, 

If credit may to certain truth be given, 

Tbey are but tb' Amaranths of heav'n." 

Edwin Armistead. 


The Tbagic Poet (2"' S. ix. 281.) — I beg to 

suggest that "the Tragic Poet" is Crebillon, and 
that the passage referred to is a distorted version 
of his most celebrated line : — 

Atrie. " Me connais-tu ce sang ? 

Thyettt. "^ Je reconnois moa frCre." 

Airit et ThytUi, Act V. Sc. 8. 


LoNOEViTi (-i"* S. ix. 104. 2G2. 401. 500.) — 
—A day or two ago there appeared in the Lancet 
a notice of the death of a man in his lOijtb year, 
which notice was copied into the Times of Tuesday, 
the 31st July last. From the paragraph in ques- 
tion it appears that on the 28th May, 1802, a 
lunatic named James Coyle, forty-seven years of 
age, was admitted ns a patient into 8. Patrick's 
(Swift's) Hospital, Dublin. For upwards of fifty- 
eight years Coyle continued an inmate of the hos- 
pital, and eventually died on the 17th of lust month, 
at the age of 105, I should imagine this to be a 
case in which there could be no mistake as to the 
person's age. 

I may here mention that there is now livins a 
lady, in full possession of her f*cult.v%v, ■^Vi.siV'tt 


t j»* a x Aro. 18. ■». 

children, grnml-children, great-gro'nd-cliildreii, 
and gretit-great-prnnd-children, tlius nrnkiii^ five 
genei-Btions of one family living nt the same time. 

J. A. Pic. 
Sit ITarrt TRELAWRr (-2"* S. X. IS. 76.) —I 
•in surprised to *ec «o cnreful a writor as Dr. 
Oliver innkinir a mistake as to the Ciiri*tinn name 
«fsowcH-known a person w Sir JwrwrtwiTrelawny, 
OBC of lire famous " Seven BiAops." Dr. O. calls 
hiia " Dr. John Trelawnj." G. M. G. 

J. WAI.KBR OftD (a""" S. viiL 531.) —Was bom 
at Giiisborouo:li on the Stb Alarcli, 1811, and 
died on tbo 29ih August, 1853. Ilis remains arc 
interred in tbo cliurehyard of GuisljoroupU. An 
account of liis works is given in York and the 
North Ridivg, by T. ^\Tiellan and Co. (1859), vol. 
ii 906. C. i. D. IsoLEDEw. 


Sperchet in ParHnmtnt^ nnd gntne JUi^cfiltnnMtB Ann* 
phlelt, 1)1/ iht late Henry DrummtmH, t'»g. E4itad by 
Lor>i Lovaine. 1 Vuh. 8vo. (BMWorih tt Harriaon.^ 

We have notliinfr to do iritli polilics; ntiil the work of 
which \rc have jast the title is #<Mentially 
political: but the tate Mfmbt-r for We»l Surrey wag no 
ordinRry politician. An accoroplinlied hi^'h-minded gen- 
tleman, ■ Tory of the old Rcbool, who»« tiitelity to the 
Crown and to the Cnnnitiitjon nt by law cslablieheil, wns 
as decided a* his maintpoanoe of the ri(;bt!< and lil>ertic« 
of the meanest .sat>ject». it Trould linve be»n matter uf 
regret, nay more, it would have been a jrrievoos loss to 
the literature of Parliament, had not some record beeii 
prcsMved of the ready eloquence — Ihc l»iM nilvocacy of 
truth — the pungent wit — the truo F,n(;li«li Imiiiour and 
tme;li9h love of fair play which distinguished the 
parliumciiliiry career of Henry Oruiimiond. The first of 
these two volumes contains Mr. Drummond's Speeches in 
Parliament, and the second ia devotpd to a republication 
of hin Oi'rasimial Pamphlets ; nnd the reader will search 
in vain for any book in which pnpuhir polilical fallacies 
and claptrap are mure thoroughly ex|>i»e<l than in this 
valuable rolleotion of the Speeches and Writings uf Henry 
Drammond. Lord Lovaine has done good service by 
tkcir publication. 

Tht Krpnlitinn to the I§le nf Rhi. By Kdward, Lord 
Herlieri of CluTlury, K.U. London. 4lo. (Printed for 
the Philobihion Society.) 

The writinjfi of Lord Herbert of Charbory have had a 
iingnlar fate. His ourioas autobiography, after hiiving 
bwa long miraiDic, was recovered and pnnt«d by Horace 
Walpole at Scrawb«fTv Hill. His cutnmvnts on the Ex- 
pedition to the Isle of Rh^ were piibliiihed by Dr. Bald- 
win in a Latin translation in 1656; nnd now, after the 
lapw of 230 years from its composition, the i.ripnul 
KngKsh is priiited for the first time, by Lord PowM, in a 
handsome rolama, for the members of Ifac I'liilobiblon 
Club. Some seventeen years ago a manuscript, thought 
to be the ori(;iiiifl, and brarioK nomc allcralion^ believed 
To he in the hiindwrilinp of Charlei I., nus purchased at 
a sale in I»ndon by Mr David Laing of Kdinhu^^ 
From him it wa^ iraasferred, attout five years ago, to 
Lord Potvis, who has aiade it the subject n( the present 
■volnraa Tlie worli itself is not so much an account of 
tbe expedition to which it relates, as an answer to alleged 

mistateracnts of Ijnnrd, Mooet, and the Mtrtmrt /Vaa- 

fpts, the principal ?•«■■■■••'' •■ -''-n who had tmt«4 apw 

the subject. Lord ! ' u-( anxiety was to |i?«m 

that the English, sli ii(>elled tTaVinndou 

main object, bad di^tinjiuialicj then. 

bravery than their opponents — tliat ' 

men ofCressy and Poictiern. The worl. . . .....,uvii 

a valuable addition to the iiintoricnl aatbaritiM 
hy the Pbilobiblons. Lord Powis has pr«flx«il 
pedi^ces of several branches of the Herbert faaailv; 
an account of the uisnuscript from which the VtMBt 
work is printed, ond a lial of other worl: j rS 1 i.rA ift^en, 
Totfco latter we presume might be o ..ji* Lf 

ttteen a Tutor and hit Pupil, 4ta, 1 7 .' A> Xak 

Booh of Edward, TmtU Herbert of I'lunltury niui Qulk 
Iidamd, comlaininc/ divrrt ftleeltd J^tttotu of tJttllettt Aar 
lliora IN aererul Countries : whertin are *ome tdtn 
fhmponHifm — a MS. noticed hi the Gent. 
Janaart', 16 1 C. 

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PnpnHar Atttimnmy : a Cmrltf Eltm*m$mry 7V«ati>r as 
tke SuH, Planett, Sat'eBitt*. and CniurJu SyO.U. ilit<ML 
LLJ). Reriewi by the liev. L. I'omlinion, JUL (tCoat- 

Ill this little work the aiilbor — who be It romclbbcnd 
is the author of that very popular book, TItc 0*t of 
Htiirm — has endeavoured to folJv^'• '' - • •*'• ^' — =' 
iiseovery, and in evcrj- in:ilance to pr- 
phenomena of the Sficncc, so as to all i r 

opporhinity to exercise his own nonius lu llicir tlisciusioii. 

Memmrr, Journal, and Conemniuience. of Ttuimot Mm. 
Edited and iihridixd from the. Firat Edition if/ lAc 
Bon. Lord John Russell. Penple'i Edition. Parts 
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These two new Paris of this pleasant ^oannine W«| 
phy, which are illustrate,) with portraits ol &Mon 
Lord Sloira, bring down the poet's joonial to ilay, U 

• I no uoaor 
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[8<x S. X. Aug. 36. "90. 

Our critic justly finds fkult with the following 
passage towards the end of the poem : — '■' ■ ' 

" Tlins lookad Elislia, Vhen, to mount on high, 
Ilis master took the chariot of the akj." 

This is certainly blamcable ; for it at once must 
have suggested the idea of taking a hackney- 
coach, a ooat, &c. in London. Yet we could say 
with perfect propriety, even in the hiehest poetry, 
took hone, took wing, &c. If Farnell tiad written 
tnxi it mijtht have been better. 

Mr. Willmott, among the "imperfect harmo- 
nies of final sound " in this poem, gives "unknown" 
and "throne," "eye" and "high," "view" and 
" too." Surely more perfect rhymes do not exist, 
and does Mr. Willmott really desire that poets 
should imitate Spenser, in making words always 
rhyme to the eye as well as to the ear? Even the 
French, lovers as they are of symmetry, do not 
exact this of their poets. 

The following passage in the Noble Night- 

Eiecc on Death seems to me to have a defect which 
as not been noticed by Mr. Willmott or any 
other critic : — 

*,<Kow from yon black and funeral vew 
That bathes tlie. chamel-Jiouiie with "dew, 
Methiiiks I hear a voice begin : ' ' 

It sends a peal of hollow groans. 
Thus speaking from among the bones." 

Now the imagery here — especially the mention 
of the "groans" — docs not seem to harmonise 
well with the words of the speaker (which are mild 
and 'consolatorv), and 'whose object is to show 
that there should be really nothing terrible in the 
idea of death, which 

" Is but a path that must br trod. 
If man would ever pass to God : 
A port of calms, a state of ease 
From the rough rage of swelling seas." 


{Continued from 2»« S. ix. 277.) 

Thomas Percy, whose name is so conspicuous 
in the history of this conspiracy, was the confiden- 
tial steward of the Earl of Northumberland, and 
receiver of his immense rents. 

When Catcsby, after on interview with him at 
Bath, proposed calling in some other gentlemen 
whose wealth would eqable them to purdiase arms 
and ammunition, of which they sto<xl greatly in 
need, Percy willingly consented to make use of 
his position as Nomiimberlond's receiver, and to 
keep back all he could get of the Earl's rents, 
which would probably amount to 400(W. He also 
promised to provide, from the Earl's sUbles, 
" many galloping horses, to the number of ten." 

From three of his letters we are in possession 
o/ hispinns. The unexpected failure or the plot, 

however, and the arrest of Fawkes, threw them 
all in coufuuon ; and instead of being at Doncaa- 
ter on the 5th of November, as he intended, he 
was obliged to leave London early on that numi- 
ing with Christopher Wright, and ride in. great 
haste to Lady Catesby's. If, on the contrarr, it 
had succeeded, he would probably have reoeivikl 
on Tuesday night, through his servants, the wlu>le 
of the money owing to the Earl. 

Northumberland, on the discovery of the plot 
and Percy's implication in it, felt very anziona 
about his rent, and despatched messenger after 
messenger to the North to look after it. It was 
this anxiety on his part, as will be seen herMfter 
fix)m the interrogatories administered to hina, ead 
his answers, that formed one of the grounds of 
\ complaint against him when he was afterwards 
prosecuted in the Star Chamber. 

The three following letters are taken from the 
orieinals, written by Percy himself, and preserved 
in the State Paper Office: — 


" I am advised, from those that well understand ay 

lor of Yorke his intent, not to come any more in tha 

I towne i for if they had not presumed of my longer stay, 

I had been taken that night I was there. The Com- 

I playntes against me and ( ?) the Earle of Xorthomber- 

land are so great, as both the Clargio and the knights 

Comitioners haue seconded one another, imagyniogbit- 

terly against me as the chefe piller of paplsUy whereby 

it stands in that Country, lest should it fall to the givand: 

this and a great deale more do thev urge acrainst me, wid 

, upon this it is concluded I should be stayed. 

** I hope. Sir, you will hould it my best to prevent thb 
mischeife, and the rather for that tlieyre is no iii ibskIj 
of my servis at this tyme. What mony my men xeeana 
and give acquittances for I will acknowled^'e as my owm 
and will be uppon Tuesday at night at Doncoster, Ood 
willing, and there stay till they come. 

" I must cntreate you favour Bartill Phillipes for thi 
Manner Garth, whereof we had once made him a loae^ sal 
it is more fitting for him than for any other. I ahoiili 
be a suiter to you for many, but especiaUy for U" iJk- 
aonby: ahe would payc no more for the Close betnlzt 
her pale ( ?) and the river but my lord's rent, which liit 
hath already payd, and need woiud hare rno] mora, 

" I pray you, sir, make perfect the booke for • 

and whatelse you would haue to his lo., and deliver to ittf 
man ; and in any thing for his I'ps service or yonr owO- 
perticuler that j-ou please to comand me, yon shall (flnA!) 
me to discharge the trew part of an honest friend, and *** 
will I euer rest, 

" Gainsborough, " Tho. Psbct. 

this a-d Nov. 1605. 

(Endorsed) ^ 

" To my affecte dear Friend, W-" Wicklift, EaqO, ^^ 

« John, _ , 

" I pray von be careful of all things comitted to yoofS^ 
charge till I see yon : I cannot come to Yorke, but wil^^ 
meete von at Doncastcr. Let no man take charge of th^ 
mony but yourself, and I (pray) you be not earned ai 
with false Business, but be muidnil of that so mndi 

• O. P. R. Ko. 4. 

J- a X Auo. 25. '60.] 




both me and your self. This it «aougli to a wiaa 
mm. And to fain well, 

" Yonr loviog Miutor, 

•• TlIO. PltRCT. 

♦• To my Servant, John 
Walker at Yorke,"* 

" My good freod, 
•* I am forbidden to b« at York* by frends that loves 
me well, for there it an iatention in the Biabop to alay 
me, which I will prevent if I may: and, therefore, am 
iwolaetl to meet* yoa at Doncaster upon Tuesday at 
Bight, and not to tee you sooner. 

" What moDy yon tball deliver to my man bit acqoit- 
tancet shall lerue as ray owne for bi> discharge. 

** I toast intraate you tpeake to my man to b* careiull 
of all things that concemea my charge till we meet. 

" I ynye yoa ffrbeart the Bal nf Gitdailfor luckt$ road 
ahtr f, for I am to far engaged as I mast pay it. If you 
be not so soon at Doncaster s> Tuesday, I will stay yonr 
eosnijig. Xo more : but I am and will euer rest, 
" Your faithful and 
" true IVend, 
" Gaiiuborongli, "Tnos, Pjibct. 

Nor. 2. 160d," 

w. o. w. 

In the parish register of DotinyLrook (1712— 
1768) the following entry appears : — 

'Buried, Madam Calwell, from .the Folly, olh Feb- 
mary, 1721." 

For 5on[ie time I was at (i loss lo discover whnt 

'the Folly" was, and where situated; but on 

taming over an old volume of the Dublin Chroni- 

idif, I L.ippencd to light upon the following nara- 

I Pmph, which not only clears awav all obscurity in 

'tte matter, but furnishes a highly interesting 

aaecMlote of the estimable Bishop Mann, which 

it would be well, I think, to admit into the pages 

L ef»N. &Q." 

B In the number for I7th January, 1789, the 
Uiecdote is given in these terms : — 

" About forty years liince, when the Doctor, who lived 
a* chaplain in tlie I^rd Chancellor Jocelrn's house at 
Btopben't-green [Dublin], was passing thro' the hall, 
^ obterved an old niou with newspapers under bis arm, 
whose aspect denoted he had seen better days ; and oa 
Making the veteran some questions, he informed the Dqc> 
**r, that he had once been in affluent circumstances, that 
*aa name was Clenahan, and that he had kept a brazier's 
*bop in Back-lane; bat that in order to push his for- 
gone, he had taken a lot of ground at the rope-walk near 
**a e Low Ground at the rere of the quay called after Sir 
•*ohn BogerMO [close to Kingsend], whereon he e.x- 
pBuded a large sum in building two houses, which he 
S^ d not money to finish, and in consequence was ruined. 
■••iii place was long known by the name of Clenahan't 

G. P. B., No. 228. 

t 1 do not feci certain that I have correctly deciphered 

I words, for Percy's writing is not easy to read. I 

'pe. therefore, some one will rectify the passage if I am 

Htg, or eXpUin it if I am right.' This letter, written 

^- one WilUara Stockdale, is in the " Gunpowder Plot 

Folly. However, before he concluded the account of him-' | 
telf, he mentioned his having as8ist»l his father at tbe^ ' 
memorable siege of Derry in IHHS. This circumstance 
excited the attention of the worthy Doctor, and he re- 
lated the particulars to the Chancellor, who communi- 
cated theiti at an enriuing Board to the Governors of the 
Koyal Hospital, whereupon the old man was appointed 
an officer in the Invalids. The writer of this anecdote 
saw him several timei in his regimentals, happy throngh-' 
out the remnant of hi!t days, owing to the banianity and 
condescension of Dr. Mann, then Minister of St Mat- 
thew's [Roval] Chapel, Ringsend [iu the parish of Don-- 

Bishop], Mann died 10th December, 1788; and 
in a letter from Cork, dated Ist January; 1789, 
and published in the Dublin Chronicle of the 8th 
of the same month, we have the following parti- 
culars of his burial : — 

" Lost week the remains of the Right Uev. Dr. Mann, 
late Bishop of Cork and Ross, were landed here from 
Bristol, and dcpoutcd at the Bishop's Palace until yester- 
day, when they were interred at Ballinaspig. liic fu- 
neral was superb; all the clergy in the city I^of Cork] 
attended, with scarfs, &c., and' tbert were upwards of 
fifty carriages." 

It is interesting and useful to rescue from 
oblivion, and to bring together; the scattered 
memorabili.1 of great and good men. For soma' 
particulars of this " good bishop," sec Bp. Maht's 
History of the Church of Ireland (vol. ii. p. 469), 
and Arcnd. Cotton's Fasti Ecclexix Uiberniea 
(vol. I. p. 2-3.'}.). A biographical sketch, written 
by one who describes himself its connected with 
the departed prelate by no otlier tics than those 
of long aojuaintancc and friendship, appeared 
in the Dublin Chronich, 23rd December, 1788. ; 


^ftuir fiettt. 


poi.£ON L — Whilst France and England are 
working harmoniously in the Chinese waters the 
following Note may be considered interesting. 
The only passport ever signed by Napoleon I. for 
an Englisbmnn to visit'England was tnat given to 
Mr. Jlanning*, ami that was "via China." Mr. 
Manning having, whilst at Cambridge, considered 
himself deeply injurcxl by the college ai)^orities, 
left his native land with the intention of pene- 
trafu)^ into the interior of eastern climes, "where 
Englishmen had never trod." In France Mr. 
Manning became intimate with Cnrnot, the Abbe 
Remusat, whose labours in oriental philology have 
shed a lustre on his name, and in fact with the 
crime de la creme of French literati. From 
France he travelled through Tliibet, China, Japan, 
&c. in native costume, and as a native; and I now 
possess his credentials to the King of Oude, signed 
by Diinda.1. When it was resolved by the Prince 

* Mr. Manning's brother, who is still alive, favoured 
me with this fact. 



[S«* & X. Ado. 25. IM, 

Re^nt to send an embossj to China iin<ler Lord 
Aimiurst, Mr. Mnaniiig, afler mudi solicitation, 
reluctantly consented to accompany it, for the 
incalt he had received at colie^ deeply rankled 
in his mind, and almcwt induced him to renounce 
his native land. As he was, however, so well ac- 
<|uainted with the interior of China, his partici- 
pation in the embassy was especially desired ; Sir 
Creorge Staunton, in fact, declined to accompany 
the embawy imless Mr. Manning was included. 
How the embassy sped is notorious, and how, on 
returning to En^^land, the Alceite was wrecked*, 
and the shipwrecked suite were taken to St. He- 
lena, Sir Hudson Lowe, the governor, granted 
permission to the members to visit Napoleon upon 
the condition that they should not address the 
biuiished hero by the title of " Emperor." Napo- 
leon spoke to each of the gentlemen composing 
the suite ; and when he came to Mr. Manniu^, he 
very sharply asked his old acquaintance, " Who 
si-jned your passport for England ? " Mr. Man- 
ning! ^'^fi^ tuc most ccmpllmentury tact replied, 
" p.Tr rEmporeur." So delicately uttered was the 
allusion to his past imperial sway that Napoleon 
deeply blushed. A. J. Dcnkik. 


MfLTox's BLnrenns. — In a broadside sur- 
mounted with a portrait of Praise-God Barebone, 
and entitled Tfie Picture of the Good Old Cause 
tirawii to the Life, containinj* ''sevend examples 
of God's judgments on some eminent engagers 
against kingly goTcmn>ent," the name of the poet 
appears third in the list : — 

** Sinton tbtt writ two Books agaiast tbe Kings, and 
Salmsaius hia Derenc« of Kings, ttrnck totaUy biiiul, he 
bting not much alxice 40 yearw M." 

This broadside is in the British Museum (669 f. 
25. vol. K.X und waa published on the 14 July, 
1660. W. W. T. 

Fi.Y-Li!A.r ScKtBauxas. — Written in a copy of 
Donzella Detterrada, or lh« Banithed Virffin, 
written in Italian by Car.< Francesco Biondi, in 
thrcu Rooke;, by J. Haywood, of Graie's Inne, 
Loud. Iti3^. t'oL: 

" Sncb U the envW of the pceant age^ 
So baoke (thoagh drwt in the ttMt eqwiya^ 
Art can inTcnt) shall pava tba cansare m 
Some criUkc, who will forge wrong cauM to icoffo 
At ne're so good a pe«ce, rather than be 
Woatd be thongbt guiltless of aQfBrini'cie. 

"Bob. KaxnioR.«.t." 

A contemporary autogmph on the snme f!y- 

Ibrmer possessor of the book. 

• Tbe shipwreck forms a curfomi cofncidenceL Lord 
Elgin and tho Baron Groa were wrecked too, and lost all 
their credentials an'l other documeDta. 

t A m«mo!r of Mr. Maaaing, who died at Bath, will be 
found in tbe Genlleman't 3fagatint. 

N. T. I 

Tooth ams Eaa Mbtal. — Some time sine 
" N. k Q." contained several commnnicationa og 
this subject. The following passage from Bailey\ 
Annals of Nottinghamshire (iii. p. 123^.) assigns' 
an origin to tho name quite different from those 
given by other correspondents, and may lliere«^_ 
fore, whether right or wrong, be perh^M vortl^H' 
record. ^^f 

Speaking of the freemen enrolled at Xotttng- 
ham in 1757, Bailey mentions as one of them 
William Tutin, buckle-maker, and then goes oa 
to say, — 

" It was a ion of this Utter person who woi tbe ia- 
ventor of that beautifal composite white metal, the Intro- 
duction of which created such a cbsnge in nuinenras 
articles of ordioarA- table serrices in Enctmid. Titil 
metal, in bonoar of tbe inventor, was called Tutimif, tig 
which word, by one of tbe most absurd perveriiona t 
laognoge ever known, became trinsferrea into ' tooC 
and egg,' the name by which it was dlmost uniformly t«*' 
cogniftM in the shops.'" 

R. F. Sk£tcbijit« 


TBENTH Centitrt. — I transcribe from a letter^ 
written in the year 1737, the foUgwing account 
of the state of the profession of manmidwifery and 
sui^ry in the towns of Manchester and Leicester 
respectively : — 

"Oar town (.Vmic/i«f«r) is so crowded, that what buB- 
ness I have allready met with, I have (as 't were) poT 
it oat of tbe fire, by the merit of my success \ Fat, I 
assure you, I have been hitherto a happy Surgeon I 
have not vet miscarried in any caso which I've Qadi 

"I begin to think I mitt it mncb in not settl: 
Lficetirr, iostcid of Manchester, when I consider you 
not a Manmidwife within ten miles of Leicester lo' 
nor a Surgeon y* cou'd cot for tbe Slone! 

" I've oeliver'd forty women safely, and some of 'cm 
twice ; and they ore all alive and hearty, except one wbft 
I deliver'd of a mortifv'd monster. We indeed are quit* 
too ful in this Town iManehaUr), conjideriog how tht 
Apothecaryt quack under oar noaw." 

Did these "Apothecaries'* keep open aboj 
like the present apothecaries of Germany, and 
modem " Chemists and Droggists " ? J. G. If. 

IxiBH OrricEHB iw Fobbigx Sebvicb. — Capi 
Laurcntius O'Connel served on the Stalf of 
neral Rledesel, who commanded the Brunswi< 
forces which accompanied Burgoyne to Aiaerii 
and were takes prisoners at Saratoga in 177' 
Capt. O'Connel was taken prisoner at the battle 
Bennington, 16th Aug. 1777; was on parale 
Woburu, Ihlass., Uth January, 1778, and wna per- 
mitted in June following to proceed to EurO' 
with despatches for the Duke of Brutiswirk. I 
eventually attained the rank of Lieut. -Colonel i 
the Brunswick service, and died on half-pay i: 
Ireland iu 1819. 

Not meeting any mention of tl«e abov' 
the account of the O'Connell family, I ' 
cate these particulars to "N. k Q." 'flu-y are 

: Am. U. 'CO.] 


extracted from Lfhen und Wirhtn tie* Gen. Linut. 
em Bied/Mtl, Leipisij, 1856. E, B. O'Cu-iaohaj*. 
-iittmjvX. Y. 

Accidents fbom Lmutsino. — TLe public are, 
lu yet, uninformed of the proper treatment to be 
adopted in eases of injury by Lghtning, nnd of the 
wonderful ond immediate relief afforded by "eold 

ThiiJ, vihvn a person is struck down, buckets of 
colli w.'i'i'i' sbould be poured on the hcnd of the 
per iiti.'ly; and if the arms or legs arc 

foui. wvf or parali/.ted, they should be im- 

nt«rted in n bucket of cold water. 

llie pain, honover, in the loins, neck, and 
lllder?, will in most cases rcmnin for several 
but b> degrees will gTa»taally go off. In 
lusion, 1 must mention tlw: fact that the pro- 
poition of these nccidents among males and 
KBales ii OS 8 to I. Does the straw or silk bon- 
net act as the lightning 'conductor? According 
10 PUttjf, ATizaldiis, and others, hoiues are pro- 
tected from lightning on which the honseUek 
grows ; and that the electric fluid never imures 
ih« holly, b«y-tree, or fig-tree. J. B. N. 


TaiGCERA!), WarriKOS of. — I am occupied on 
MNne inquiries about the minor Spanish poeto, 
Bod among them Trigucras. Ticknor mentions 
only his attempt to reduce two plays of Pope to 
the unttieii, and hia poem La Riada. Maillet 
(Nowfdle- Littiratwre aExpagne, p. fl2.) says he 
imitated Pope and invoked nis spirit, ton ombre, 
ui wjmc ti.iiiilt'nl lines. 1 cannot find his works 
in the B . and know only Ln ll'mdu and 

a corned V j'ltado. As some of his writings 

are laid to bear on their title-pages " Madrid y 
Londres," perhaps they may be in the British 
ItfOMam. If any of your correapondents, when 
tkere, will look and tell me the titles, and espe- 
cially the invocation to Pope, I shall be much 
[obliged. C. Tabdt. 


Otrs To wx- Fields. — The Kev. J. Eastwood, 

{ton, Derbyshire, will be glad of any p.irti- 

or r«f«rCTices to wbere such particulars 

be found, of the origin of " town-fields," di- 

fcd into nnraerous small allotmcntsi, generally 

*^higb state of cultivation, but in no way fenced 

"rom each other ; also names of places where 

open fields, not common, atUl exist. 


tm jooomIv myr that somo ■nterprelcr.') of 
kn» mugbt 'fov tli* lost tribes in NoVa 

The above U at page 15. of a pamphlet pub- 
^iAed by JI. Cooper, entitled the BahylonUh 

Ciiptiviti/ and iu CoiueijiteuceA, by T. Morgan, 
London, 1 746. Is Mosheim ever jocose ; and, if 
SO, where ? Is the writer the Morgan noticed by 
Pope in 

** Morgan and Manderillc eooM prate no more." 


Grost ct the TowEft. — Is there not a ghost 
story connected with the Tower of London ? and* 
what IS it ? Has not the ghost, or appearance, 
been seen once at least during this century, and 
with fatal results ? K. B, 

Faixtings.— I possess a much- admired painting 
5x4, representing a ruined bridi^e and running' 
brook, by the margin of which last sits a medi- 
tating female figure, the whole overshadowed by 
dark trees, between the overhanging boughs of 

i which is seen a distant landscnpc, whose most 
prominent feature is a rocky headland, and the 
sky tinted with the glow of the last rays of the' 
setting sun. It is signed in right-hand corner 
"G. S," date 16(44 apparently). Qu. Whosa ' 
signature is this ? Connoisseurs Lave declared it 
to be by S^vandaveld, sometimes called the HermK 
of Italy. Wanted, some particulars respectiug tbAj 
life and pictures of this artist, whose name 1»\ 
quite strange to me, and I have in vain endea- 
voured to obtain a Pilkington which might en** 
lighten mc. I also own an unsigned painling,- 
cnttlc, water, and landscape, said to be by Ibbet- 
son, a comparatively modern artist. Some par- 
ticulars respecting him and bia works ? 

J. F. N. H. 
Bishop Batles. — In a rarm-house in Suflblk 
there exists a good oil pninting, which tradition 
says is the portrait of Bishop Bayles. On the 
picture is the date 1624, and lef. 68. Any in- 
tormation respecting this prelnle (if there ever 
was one of the name) will greatJy oblige 

IIebus Frateb. 
''EvEBT Mam is convinced," and "Every man 
thinks he can drive a gig before he tries it, ma- 
naga the woman he may be desirous of calling, his 
own previous to marriage," &c. In using the 
above proverb, saying, or what you will^ there is _ 
often tacked a list of feats alike easily carried' 
through in imagination, but impracticable in per- 
formance, to those mentioned of the gig and the 
lady. Can any of the correspondents of " N. &- 
Q. favour mc with such a list, and at the same 

I time' state to what or whom wc owe the orinin of 

'' the saying, the frieiid from whom I had it baving. 

I unluckily forgotten the e.xact terms io which it 
was couched ? K. 

I Arbroath. 

'Rev. Bbkj. Rudgb was bom 8 K'or. 1725* 

I died 30 June, 1807, aged eighty -one, harving held 

the rectory of WhcatfielJ, Oxon, lor fifty-seven 

' years. He was of WiBchestor School and Uni- 



[«»« & X. Ana S5. W. 

yemtj Coll., Oxford, and afterwards Demr of | 
Uogdalen. Of his family I Iiave fall particulars, j 
but is anything knows of his literal? attainments F '■ 
I believe he was the author of several pieces in a ' 
work entitled Miaa Anglicana. \ 

I have in my possession some of his Sermons (in | 
MS.) and two MS. books AiU of English and 
Latin verses in his handwritins;. One has several 
leaves torn out,^ as if spoileu in writing or not 
worth preservation. In the mai^in of several 
paffea he has written against Latin subjects 
(Aiagd.), sometimes adding a date, 1746, and 
once Oriel, 1745. Against one is written "Battle 
of the Books," under date Magd. 1746. To what- 
can this refer ? F. B. Rbltok. 

Lee, S.E. 


" The Hononr of the Tsyloon, or the ftmons and re- 
nowned History of Sir John Hawkwoo<i," &c cuts, 1C87, 

This black-Igttcr book of 55 pages and preface 
is stated by Lowndes to have ** suggested to Sir 
Walter Scott the writin<? of Quentm Durward." 
-\yhat sav yt>ur CMTSspopAfollB to this statement? 

Dbtden's Poems. — rlatdj^pnrchasid a small 
quarto volume containing some early editions of 
Dryden's separate poems, bound up together, and 
lettered " Dryden's Works, VoL I. It comprises 
the following works : — 

1. A Poem upon the Doath of his late Highness 
Oliver, Lord Protector, &e. &c Written by Mr. Dry- 
deo. 1659. 

2. AnDns Mirabilis. By John Dryden, Esq.- 1688. 
8. Aatrosa Redux. By John Driden. 1G88. 

4. On KiDK Charles's Corouatlon. 1G88. 

5. To my Lord Chancellor. 1688. 

6. Mac Flecknoe. No title-page or date. 

7. Absalom and Actiitophel, a Poem. The seventh 
edition, augmented and revised. 1692. 

8. The Med.-il. The third edition. 1692. 

9. Keligio Laici. 1683. 

10. Thr«nodice Auffvstalis. Thff second edition. 1685. 

11. The Hiad and the Panther. The third edition. 

12. Britannia Bediviva. > w-t ..^jt.Vn. s 1*88- 

13. Eleonora. j First editions? ^g^. 

I have not ^ven the titles in AiU. 

Sir AV.Tlter Scott, in his Life of Dryden, states i 
that the first edition of the Elegy upon Cromwell 
n659) " is extremel;y rare." is this correct P 
And are the other editions, or any of them, i^ all ; 
valuable or curious ? I should suppose not, as I 
gave only eighteenpencc for the whole. I am I 
aware that only Nos. 1. 12. and 18. can be first 
editions. Edward J. Saoe. 

WisnsoE Registers. — In Windsor church, co. 
Berks, is a monument bearing the subjoined in- 
scription, but without date : — 

" In bappie memorle of Edward Jobion and EIrnor 
his wyft by wbome the sayd Edward had isine vl sonnes 

vidz. Edward, Francis, HmnMe, James, Wniiam, Btchord, 
and iiij danghters, Elizabeth, Elizabeth, Katherin*, Sara." 

Above the inscription is a relievo of an altar, the 
father in the attitude of prayer on one side, with 
his five sons kneeling behmd him in rotation. Oa 
the other, the mother with her four daughters, 
whUe at the foot of the altar is an infant swathed 
up like a mummy. A coat of arms beneath ia, 
azure, three leopards' faces or, impaling, ermine, s 
chevron gules. Con any of your readers give a 
conjecture as to who Edward Jobson was ; when 
he nourished, or the family name of his wife ? * I 
fancy the tomb must be of the Elizabethan 
period, or thereabouts. 

While mentioning Windsor, I may be permitted 
to hint that the registers, which ore in tolerable 

S reservation, laconically record thi burial of 
ling Charles the First thus, under the date, 
" Kmg Charles in j* Castle." The registers con- 
tain iuso several entries of a family of the name 
of Milton, as we know they were in Berks. Might 
not these be available to throw a light upon the 
family of England's sublimcst poet ? 


SuGAB. — I read In the Edinburgh Review that 
in several provinces of France sugar is unknown. 
Can any of your readers point out what influence 
this has on the health of the inhabitants, and if 
they are exempted from any maladies to which 
we sugar consumers ore liable ? T. 

RsD-HOT GuKS. — The following curious cutting 
may be found worth a comer in " N. & Q-," and 
obtain by that means some farther information as 
to the truth or otherwise of the Doctor's state- 
ments : — 

« At p. S62. of Dr. John M<CDl]och'a Euay on Mdaria, 
a work of authority and much value, published in ItST 
by Longman and do. of London, is the following passage: 
* That gons which had been reposing for a century at th» 
iMttom of a deep sea, wer« red-hot when brought np tcr 
the light of day, was as little believed and as much ridi- 
culed as the limitations of the malaria in this case irilik 
probably be bv the sceptics in question. Yet the inves- 
tigations of tbe same credulous person proved its tmtbr 
and added a new and interesting fact to chemical science.'' 

" Of the curious matter alleged so positivelv but ob- 
scurely in the foregoing quotation, he nowhere else in his 
work offers either deUil, or proof, or explanation ; and 
yet fh>m his character and position he was not a man to 
make a gratnitons mistatement. if what he has so 
enigmatically asserted is indeed a fact, it will well de- 
serve to be added to the number of ' The Hot Contra- 

T. S. L. 

OxFOBD AoTiioRS. — The two followins dra- 
matic authors are noticed in Wood's Athena 

* Two daughters bearing the same baptiamal appella- 
tion are recoraed, who, to judge from the efl&gy, were both 
living at the same period. 1 have met with this occnr- 
rence in old pedignes sometimes ; a predilection to per- 
petuate some family name may have been the cans*, but 
It most invariably create conftasion. 



OroidrntU; — Ist. Thomas Walter»pf Jesus Col- 
lege, M.A., 1680, son of Jobn Walter of Perce- 
field in Monmoafhsliire. lie " wrot« h11 or the 
most pwt of" The EscoinminticaMt Prhtce, a play, 
]iubli9hcd in the name of Cantaiii BeJloe^ (Wood's 
Athaite (cd. Rliss), vol. iv. Fiusti ii. p. 373.) 3nil, 
Kicliord Triplet, son of Kicbarci Triplet, born at 
Shiptun o;i Charwtill, Oxfonlshire, entered a ser- 
vitor of Tiiiiity Ciilli,'.i;e in act term, 1687. AVood 
S8V», " He bath wrote a comedy not yet printed." 
OVood's Alhenu- (eJ. Bliss), vol. iv. p. 690.) Mr. 
Triplet seems to have taken his dejrree of M.A. in 
1697. Could niiy of your Oxford readers, who 
tt»j be al)le to refer to Kaivlinson's MS. continu- 
ation of Wood's Alhena; in the Bodleian Library, 
£ive me any inforuiation regarding the subsequent 
history of these two authoi-s ? K. Ingus. 

Pavkmsmt. — The question about " ride " or 
" drire " (2°'' S. ix. 326., ct poslea) puts me on a 
farther inquiry. Does the jtavemeitt on which (in 
towns lit Jeitst) both means of locomotion are used, 
iatend the place for imlking also ? In France the 
footway is, urbanly speaking, distinguished as " le 
trottoir," and in Ireland as " the llogs," per synco- 
pen for the " flag-stones;" while one pedestrian 
acconimodation in London is, (tor' iioxvy-, denomi- 
nated "the pavement." The distinction is suffi- 
ciently maintained in Ihc country by " footway " 
wd " road ; " but I should like to know is "pave- 
ment" the generic nnme of both, or the specific 
name oi either, and oi which f Impavidcs. 

MAiisKNA. — Mr. D'Israeli (Coiiingsbj/, ii, 203.) 
says that Massena — as well as other French mar- 
shals — was a Hebrew, and thnt his real name was 
Manasseb. He was a native of Itice. Now in 
the Piedmontese dialect, inasena signifies a child : 
M in the Piedmontese Gospel of St. Luke (i. 7.), 
"E a 1 aviou ncssune maaiina" — " And they had 
no child." Was his sobriquet — "the favourite 
child of Victory — the spoilt child of Victory" — 
a play upon this meaning of mus'aia * 

\VLat is the derivation of masSiia T Is it from 
the Latiu mucor * In many of the Italian dialects 
m and » seem interchangeable : thus, the Latin 
Aletpiliu, n medlar, is in Italian Nespolo. 

Is there any foundation for Mr. D'lsmeli's state- 
ffieut ? It is clcjr that the. play might equally 
been made whether Masscna ytaa his real or 
oed name. £. G, R, 

" Saxa [nT ultima led vesligi* caadt flutbot, 
Villi ut, intnrtii quic pnssim effum Hagellia 
Loxariat, maaibuBque suis ceu proxioia pr^odiU" 


The above is among many other passages re- 
lating to horses at p. 51. of Tb. Bnithulini tie 
Eifuo Lihri tret, Amst. 1673. The references nrc 
generally brief. I have no difficulty with " Vh-g." 
■'Hor." or "Jay." but am puzzled by " Zil," 


As the lines on good, I slialt be obliged by bcin'» 
told whence they are taken. E M* 

NoBTii Sea. — Has any monograph of this beea 
published ? If none have been published, where 
can one find a good account of 'he various banks, 
such as the Dogger Bank, the Wells Bank ; aud 
the remarkable chasms (*. g. Great and Little 
Silver Pits), &c., in it. The best account of it 
with which I am acquainted, is that in the Pen.. 
Cychptvdia, The vessel mentioned there, as boin] 
theu engaged in the survey of the North Sea, 
suppose was the unfortunate "Fairy," ' s 

afterwards totally lost. Whether the . ,3 

been since then renewed and completed, X liavi 
not ascertained. E. G. R. 

Tkstinu the Strbngtu or CA.<t!iio.\ by sui'Bh- 
HEATED Steaji.— Can your readers inform me if 
such a severe (and economical) test has ever been 
applied, and the date of such experiments ? The 
expansive force of steam is much greater than 
that of gunpowder. Many volcanic eruptions and 
earthquakes, no doubt, owe their terrible effect* 
to this power of steam ; the water of the te»X 
finding its way to subterraneous fires. 

As Artlllebv Voluiitebb. 

Beattie the Poet. — During a brief stay in 
England I am desirous, on behalf of a grand- 
nephew of James Beattie's, resident in the United 
States, of obtaining iufovmation respecting the 
family of the poet ; particularly, the date and 
place of death of Williiiui Beattie, the brother of " 
James, with any notices of his ilimily or their 

It is thought that the said William Beattie was 
a farmer near Edinburgh, and that lie died about 
1810. . D. M. Stevens. 

Godalming, SOtb August, I860. 

EssENTiALisTS.— I beg leave to transcribe for 
insertion in " N. & tj." a query which was pro- 
posed in Gud. Mag., April, 1797, but appears 
never to have been answered : — 

" A correspondent desires us to procure him some in- 
fornifttioD rcspctling the sect or the l:)aMnti«list«, un- 
noticed by Ktoibeim or his traDslatur, aud tbeir teneta."— 
P. SSC. 

" The sect," obeerves Cbarton, in the sacM volume, p. 
126., "never very numerous (a single congregation at 
Manchester being the only one I ever heard oQ, l)ecaina 
extiuct, 1 believe, with its fint authors ; and now at the 
dUtnnce of rather less than four-score years from it« 
oiigia, the verv name of EssenlialistJ, like Brett's Tradi- 

tivti, is scarcely known." " The Kev. Thomas 

Drett, LL.D., who renounced the Communion of the 
Charch of England, not txscansa her doctrines were erro- 
ucou«, or her rites luperstitiotu, but because her Liturgy 
i^tt 'defective' in certain points, 'such as Cliriim or 
Oititmeut in the office of t;onfinnation, mixing Water 
with the Euchariitical Wine ' (Brett, p. 6^.), 'and a few 
other matters, which Brett and bis party deemed ' Ea- 
sentiaU ' ; and for that reason it was, J believe, that lK«>| 
wer« called Essentialists." 



CS«< 8. X. Ava. 22. <M. 

Here we find Brett barmonuing with Dr. 
Deacon and the Jacobttio clergy of Manchester. 
On wliat grounds, then, does Raddiil'e, iu Bil>- 
liolfteca Chethamensin, vol.5, p. 170., mention these 
two writers as adversaries, thus : — 

" 1742. EueniialittA. Tracts ia Defence of tlio Eimu- 
liAliits, by Mveml haiidi, viz. ^Vngilalfe. Lawreoc«, 
Gmbe, Lealie, Brelt, Griffio, &c. Loodoii, 1718, &c. 

" 17'18. Tracts against the Esscntialists, by llJl^^ Jlj - 
nors, Dtacott, Saat, Ktrberrr, and Walker. London, 
17i8, Sk. 

Does Mr. Lalhbury, in Lis Hittory of Noti' 
Jurors, furniih a Biographie Bibliograjihiquc of 
-tlu3 sect P Index Imdicatobius. 

PunoPORM (?) AN AMBRicAiiMM. — ^I am i^o- 
rant of the precise signification of the Ameriuan 
political term pltUform, and rashly, perhaps, there- 
fore venture to question its originality. Peter 
Heylyn uses the word in an appropriate sense (ri 
fcdlor), in bis Microcoimot, ed. 1627, p. 304.; 
" Contarenns suuposcth the Veuotion Republique 
to be a very mouell of Platoc'a old plat-form." 


\_Plaiform, in aMne porta of tbe New England States, 
Mgnifiss an ecclesiutiuid constitution, mitcli as we uy 
" the platform of tieoeva " : but perhaps with this differ- 
ence; that we, when we speik of an ecclesiastical jJul- 
forni, employ the term with an implied reference to those 
Christian cominunitiea which recognrso do "divers or- 
ders" (tbe Preabyteriaii, fur instance), in contra-distinc- 
tion to the threefold gradation, Bisliop, Priest, Deacon. 
provailiDg in the Anglican Church. Thiji is a distinc- 
tion with which Brother Jomitban do«s not appear to 
trouble himself. Of klc years the word ptntfnrm has 
also got into very common use throughout the U. S. to 
denote the collection of pruiciplti) avowed by a political 
party ; in which connexion any partkvtuT principle of tlie 
pnrly is called a plank. " The Free Soil party regard 
every pLmk and splinter of the Viu&Ao jilalform as a relic 
of antold value." " Distrust a bad man, even if pat 
upon tbe best platform, .... everj- planh of which 
could be stood upon." Sec Bartlett's Uict. of AmtricuH- 
itm$, 1H50, on platform and planA.'] 

SsAMBocK — Query the etymology? J. K. 

[Shamrock, qu. Seamar-ogh, i. e. holy trefoil Yihea 
8. Patrick preached tbe Gospel to the Irish, he used the 
leaf of the shamrock foi a holy purpose, namely, to illna- 
trale the doctrine of the Tiiuiiy, Ttuee in One.] 

PussiB-PccK FisTE. — What ia tbe njcaning of 
this term, which is applied to John Goodwin, the 
celebrated Nonconformiat and controversiulist. by 
John Vicars in a violent pampLlct entitled Cole- 
man Street Conclave vitiled. London, 1648, nasrc 
13? D£lt1 

[On referring to Virars's pamphlet, wc find the true 
reading lo be •• Puffio-Puck fisle." Pnck-fist is suppoaed 
by Nares to be what wc now call a fuz-ball or puff-bail 
(junyuM pmhoukHiuM). The term wss often seed 


Thp prffix " P-.tffl.-: " oppaart 

.. juK 
-J •■■ -^ ■.->i-t"«» 

proachfiilly n 
to have I' 
to the [.(■! 

after, be a... .V. .. .-. .i ,. . 

" this must huge Ciaragantua."j 

St. James or Caiatrava. — ^>Vhere can I fi: 
full information regarding this kiiij[;;htly Ordi 
which appears to huve tlourii>licd jibout 
twelfth century ? Wiis churity its prini^rv ob- 
ject, Like that of the Order of MalU? 

jAJixa W. BmcAvi. 
. ht- 
nd in 



[An accouirt of the mititarj* Onlcr r-' O'-i^ 
oierly known ts the Urdir of Siilvslien . 
burke'a Ordert of KHigkUiood, pp. 3t 1— 

Clacbe Du Vai- — ^W'here shall 1 meet wilb 
true and correct sketch of the life and doings 
Claude du Val, tbe renowned highwayman. 
whether any " Life " of him has ever been |ju' 
lishedf Martik dx iVotRKA 

[The Life of this noted I ■ •' •• -•'- -' 

cutetl at Tyliarn, 21 Jan. 
year, was published in tti' , 
auHrn'f Al0it»itur Du I 'a/.] 

MaBBiaGEs before Noos. — ^Caii any of you 
correspondents tell nie tbe origin or meaning ■ 
tlie law which obliges marriages to be bclb 
noon ? Cawt4 

[Tbe regulation which limits tbe hours when rrr,t>;i,u>n« 
may be celebrated is due to Canon G2 1 " N 
any Minister . . . under any pretence what, 
any persons so licensed in marriage at any uDM-a-Minalil 
timeN but uiily between the hours of eight and twelve I 
the foranoou." 

On a careful pcmsAl of Canon 02 it would 
the limitation as to time, 6 to 13, was inteudei! «iljri 
marriages t>y iicenoe, not for thott 6y btmnt. Thia ia . 
so understood at present ; but it fully accords with C«I 
102, Aithich dearly indicates that the linuialiou ai 
time was expressly intended for marriage* by lictae 
'l°be right of graating iprdal licences (for persuns !• ^ 
married quoBbit loco out ttwiporc honeilo) is reserved to I 
Arohbiahop by stat. 2C Gea II. 
_ The canonical restriction, as it aOiscts ordinary nai^ 
riages by licence, appears to have originated iu the ecosl-' 
deration that "liceneed persons," having avoided tins 
publicity of banns, ought at any rate to bo marVicA 
openly, and not "at any unsaasooable bourc" (," ttc 
better sectvityiagaiDst clandestine marriages," \VI 
The fraraers of our Canon* did not surely medtti 
nctdleu restrictiou; nor are they likely to have 
ten that great principle of £ogli»h law, which 
good within all maonablt limits, **matrimonium 
esse liberum." 

It has been thought that the forenoon wos i: 
a fitting tiino for murriugi;, on the old Chun 

that the bridegroom and bride, when they r. 

utatrinioniol vow, should be fattimg; and in many weil* 
dings we may yet discern truces of this idea, in the 
ding breakfast nj'trr the ceremony. It has also 
suggested (hat tbe forenoon was appointed iu »rdar It 
a due interval might elapse between tbe rvl^loua put < 
tbe ceremony nod Uw coDclnding festivities of tbeevi 

f*S.X. Aoo. ii. <M.] 





0" 8. iv. 471.; xi. 3S6. j 2»'' S. ii. 143. 193.; vi. 
27a; Tii. 96. 170. 262. 825.) 

[one of your corrcipondmt*, I tUnk, bave 
itioneil the rctnarkabM work of Ur. Itobarta of 
leflielil, entitled : — 

•Tlie Gvr>ins: Their Origin, CoTitinimnw, and Des- 
llosliMi: or Tlia ScaUd hvck Op«ii«d. TAc Fifth iCdi- 
«tm, f na t lg Enku md. Br SAMUst BomcnTS. i>ondoD: 
ItMgDuns, 1842,'^8r0k 

Tbe germ of the sbove was a nuall voluinc pub> 
lisLed iu 1830, and entitled: "Pakallki. MtRA- 
nc8, o« TBB Jews anu the Gtpsies." Mr. 
Boberta m apparently the first writer, wLo, on 
■t i yhiit icti ground;, declared the Gjpsics to be 
MTiTiAKft. In his preface he t«lU u« that : — 

■TliB principal object in vifw is to prove that tlio 
Oypites af* tbfl (WoMentlants of tlie ancient Kgrptiaas, 
4mm4 bjr tbc flat of tbo Almighty, as (iToclainRd hy 
flia tfcne gr«at Propbeu, l«4ialt, Joremiah, and Ea alt M , 
(obadimrud for a ocrloin period, in the m'MrriutMtand 
wpm fttds, ol almost all o.itioos, and to be tban gathered to 
tMir Tialive land, and taoght, under a Savitmr nnd A Great 
Omt, I* kixm the Lord." — p. t. 

"Atiout twenty veara ago, Mr. John Horland, of tkia 
tawn.a oieaibvr of tLe Society of Frionda,nubli9bed a work 
•Stitlad 'An Historical Survey of tbe Ciutoma, Habita, 
and Prwent State of the GYrsiF.s f^or^. 181C.' Svo.]. 
Bii, Hke almost all preceding wrltera ou the subject, con* 
wtrcd that they w«re SouoK-u, the lowMtcaito of Hin- 
4M«k driven froin their satire oonatry by TtMtiar Beg, in 
MM-Dl* TUis worit Uno^y tngtitA (h« attention of 
Ik* author of tbc following pagea; and beiqg tbco about 
^bliabing a amall miscelTaueoas rolame, he inserted an 
VtMa iB It, entitled, < A Word for the 0.<ii>s1eB.* Tn that 
It ■ttcmpted to pnrre that they conid' not poesribiy b« 
fltudoii ; bnt ha waa not then able to show wko, or what, 
gr wl>CD«« tb«y were . . . 

"nc ptcaerration of the GrrsitLs as a distinct peaf>la, 
a» disperaetl io tbe wilds of all conntrico, appeared to him 
■a partaking more strongly of the miraeulotu than even 
Cbn << tlie Je^-8, whose ranamfaig a diapened paopla is 
aekaowledgcd to h« by DlrfM appdMBMiit. The idea 
at iMkgtJi fed him to examine if Uiefa were any nitima- 
tiooa giTCn in Uia Scriptures of the praoorvation of any 
tach people, for ho had not then the leaat recollection of 
that oeimg tbe caaa. Ilia astonishment, therefore, n-ss 
0Mt M <>ad» wh«a ha loond, as be coucoired, not only 
that tlicrs was such iotimatioo given, but that there 
was the most astoniahingly clear prediolion of shcA a 
people M> remaining that could possibly have been writ- 

"Whan tfaan. it may be asked, ««thoM«xtraoraisary 

9n|lc. •■ whose existence tbe tnath of Prepbecy and the 

accsracy of .the Scriptures depend ? If they exist at all, 

'Vhay eaiwat ba hid, for Uiey are to be ia all countries ; 

Ihqr cannot be miataken, since their peculiaritiw are so 

ViMimaB met stiildog. Ask not, than, tekert the acat- 

Und EgypUani ar«, bnt rather ask tchtn art May iwC f 

INteg tair «r five hsindred yean Uiey hare been jbwwa 

M bat« bmu. «teafiyiag the IVtUbrMsaaa nd the c^pen 

.AMi qf ehBost every eoontry ia Enropei TlAy have 

ftoa the Ant teld every one bAo they were and wkemct 

* ** It can be proved that the Gypsies were in Europe 
Wort tint period." 

Ihtf eamf. Though they knew nothing nbont K-,:r^f, 
they all, o/icuy*, asserted that ti " . " . 

Noliody bclieveil them, because, ,> 
ietphed. ImngM Slid idols the^\ i 
tiantd. Tbej- have, as a people, no Kcligiuti. Inallfeun- 
trics they are in all respects the same; all apeakiag iho 
•Mna langtiagCb Now, tbtn. if tke Giti-mies arc not llie 
diaperscil EfiTPTLVSs, what are thpy? If the diS|><>rs«d 
and scattered Gypsies a(e not thv desoendanta ol' tbe 
oflVntling Egyptians, where are that scattered people? — 
Introd. to •Itii edit., pp. i.\.-x. xit.-xv. 

Mr. Roberts' (irpimcnts ngftinst the Gypsies 
being Soudras, or any Caste of llindoos, are given 
at p. G7. lie decUreii that, " The aflittity of tbe 
two languages is the only ground on which the 
jiopnlar opinion is groundeil ; " nnd meets this by 
observing that " it is xery probable that both lan- 
guages, viz. the Egyptian and Iliudou, luny Love 
sprung from Uie sftnie root." At p. xv. he ad- 
dacvs a passage from the '• History of K<_>m* " 
in the Eainh. Vnb. Lib. on the ponncxii; i 

India and Kgypt, and ** the striking resL- : _• 
which is known to BubsiBt between the iisftgc?, 
snperstitions, nria, and mylMosy of the ancient 
inhabitants of Western India, ana thooc of the first 
■ctttere on the Upper Nile." — ef. pf». xxix.-xxx. 

** The most remarkable circnntstancn," says lit. 
Roberts, *' thnt is known as having tmken ploct in 
the History of tbe World, between two nations, ia 
the Connection between the Jigyptions and the 
Hebrew*," This remarkable connection is well 
stated in pp. xxxv. 145-lW. 61., &c. 

Again, the contrast between the Astoienk £<7p> 
tians and modern Gypsiea is preMntcd to ua la A , 
very striking, and, to say tbe raaat^ ingeiNom w«^, 
as n retributive rvrcrse, a proplietie*! antithesis. 
— ' pp. xii.-xiii. a9-€0. 

The remarkable pcctjlitrity, rtrongl^ stated by 
Mr. Borrow, attaching to the Gypsies in oil coun- 
tries, viz. the oluiust universal chastity of their 
women, and tbe exceeding rarenciss ol any con- 
nection between them and the Busne or Gentiles, 
is well turned to account by Mr. Roberts : — 

■* It ace«H clearty to roe that (bera is e»re and only one 
way of nccounling fiw it — the Decree *f tbe Aliaitbtgr aa 
requiaite to keep tltem a distinct people; juat as lie hsa 
bestowed upon thtm, for the same purpose, such an un- 
conquerable attachmeDl to living in the eptn fitldi, with- 
out eilber Uod ar Idols." — p. xxxix. 

At p. 210. the author has n curious chapter, 
entitled "The Expelled Egyptians, or Gypsies, 
Discovered as Ancient Inhabitants of Mexico." 
It thus opens : — 

" It luu been already observed, that many ages lual 
passed between the time of the Egyptians being eoo- 
<j«fTed and expelled from their native country, to that 
when the Gypsies are now stated to have been tSral° pub- 
licly noticed aa wandering strangers in Europe : that cir- 
cnmstance, it waa said, might be accounted for — even 
Bap|>osin(; that they had been for ages existing in the 
same wandering state." 

The next chapter, in continuation of the former.^ 
treats of the "Ancient Rvuti% vbiC«».\x^ Kss^etv:^ 



[21^ 8. X. Auo. 2*. W. 

At p. 97. is givea a long list of Gypsy worJa i 
for familiar things, taken down from the nioutb of ' 
one Clara Ilearij, a Gypsy girl, by Jlr. Roberts' 

An interesting and well-compiled " Account of [ 
the Gipsies" appeared in Cbanibers's MitceUani/, 
Edint). 1847, vol. xvi., No. 139. The writer ob- 
jects to the Egyptian theory : — 

" Not only is the Gipsy Innf^s^ diflereot froin tUe 
Coptic, aorl the Gipsy mau'ners different from those or the ' 
natives of Egypt, but, whAt l» still more decisive, Gipsies i 
ore foQud wandering throngli Egypt as through other 
countries, nnd are there treated aa foreigners, just as with 
lis, . . . The couclusion of the Indian ongin of the 
Gipsies, to which we are led by a consideration of their 
language, is remarkably corroborated by the similarity of 
character, customs and occupations which the Gipsies 
exhibit with certain existing tribes or castes among the I 
Hindoos, particularly the Nuls or Bazcgurs, a wandering 
race in Hindoostan, of very low repute among the other [ 
Hindoos, and sneaking a dialect apparently aa diSereut 
from the pure liindoostauee as the Gipsy ia" — p. 2. I 

To the above, Mr. Roberts would reply, that i 
*' the ancient language of the Egyptians is a lost 
language," p. 29., and that from the remote period | 
of their expulsion from Egypt, tlic Gypsies in | 
Egypt are strangers at home. The fact is, His- ' 
tory fails us with regard to the origin of the i 
Gypsies, and the theory of their being Hindoos ] 
expelled by Timour Beg is as hypothetical as any 
other. We arc sadly in wont of some facta to 
bridge over the chasm which, at present, we are 
obliged to jump. ]Mr. Borrow observes : — 

" Aa to the story of their Egjrptian origin, it i* pro- 
bable that its authors were the European Ecclesiastics, 
who, surprised at so strange an anparitlou as these wan- 
derers must have been, and builuiug on some hint that 
the}' had come from Egypt, imagined that they saw in 
them the fullilment of the Prophecy of Ezekiel : — 'I will 
make the land of Egypt desolate in the midst of the 
CDuntrips that are desolate; and her dties among the 
cities that arc laid waste, shall be desolate for forty years-, 
and I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and 
will dispane them through Uie countries.' " 

Yet this is but a guess too, and was perhaps 
suggested by Mr. Roberts' book. 

Another work on the Gypsies, which has not 
beeu noticed, is entitled : — 

"The Gipsies' Advocate, or Observations on theOrimn. 
Character, -Manners, and Habits of the EncUsh Gipsies; 
to which are added manv lateresting Anecdotes. By the 
Rev. James Crabb. 182*1, 12mo. 1832, I2mo." 

In The Penny Magazine, Lond. 1836, vol. vii. 
ip. 17. 114., arc two papers entitled "'The Eng- 
ish Gypsies " and *' Continental Gypsies." 




(2°" S. ix. 511.; X. 16.) 

Though the editor of the Soutfiern Timet seems 
to think that x likely tale i$ as good, if aot better, 


than n real one, I beg to say tiiat I do not agree 
with him ; and I congratulate myself in havin ' 
been the means of exposi4^ in the pages of " .' 
& Q.," throu^ the inquiry and report of owl 
friend James Dix, that the Willscot story woa tj 
hoax, — pretending, as it did, to have diacove 
a copy of so rare and valuable a book aa Core 
dale's Bible of 1535. 

There has, I understood, been ftuolhcr similar 
story adoat, that a book was recently found 
Wolvercote, a village two or three miles fron 
Ojtford, on the rebuilding of the church ; but thia 
story also may be fairly suspected of having no 
better foundation. 

There was, however, a real discovery of thi* 
kind made three years ago at Addington, near 
Winslow, Buckinghamshire ; ami some particulara 
of it have beeu communicated by the Rev. Thomas 
Walter Parry, the curate, to the BuckinghamsUirttj 
Archffiological Society. Browne Willis liml slated,J 
that about the time of his publication of the And'' 
/juities of the county, several missals were founif 
in the chancel wall of this church. Mr, Pa 
consequently gave instructions, when the _.^ 
church was pulled down, to look out for any ap- 
parent openings in the walla, and especially neat 
the piscina. On the 5th Aug. 1857, the workmen 
came upon several book^ together with a supers ' 
altare, some fra^meutj) of gloss, &u., which nail ' 
been deposited la the north wall of the chanceL 
I am informed that they were exhibited at the 
meeting of the Buckinghamshire Society recently 
held at Newport Pagnell, aud described in the 
Catalogue circulated ou that occasion. Mr. Pony 
is of opinion that they were concealed by Tbonkii 
Andrews, who had been instituted to the rectory 
in 1559, and who may have taken alarm at the 
articles touching ancient office-books, &c., which 
were circulated by Archbishop Grindal soon after 
his appointment to the See of Canterbury, in 1570.^^J 
The books remain in the possession of the Rev. ^E<^| 
W. Parry. The missob of which Browne WiUifl^l 
speaks arc lost sight of. John Gougu Nichol0. 

P.S. — Having beeu favoured by Mr. Parry ^J 
with a sight of the Caialogiie of the temporarjri^f 
museum at Newton Pagnell, I am now enabled Ut^H 
enumerate the books. J?hey arc six in number : — - ' 

1. " Opascnlum reverend! patris fratris Guillermi Pepyii« 
■acre theologie professoris Parisioiuis clariaaimi, orouil^ 
predicatorum, super Coofiteor uovisaime cditum. Paris. 

S. An imperfect volume of Sermons for Lent, of ab<rat 
the same date. . 

3. " Modus Confidesti compoaitos (i7%iUe) ReverendO 
ep'ffl Andream." 

4. •* The Prymer in Englyeshe and Laten af 
of Sariun, set out at length with luany guo' 
and with the exposicioa uf Miserere and In ' 
tparavi, with the Kpystles and GooDels througUuul thvlJ 
hoole year. Prynted it London by Inomss Petyt, 1541."^ 
(The only other known copy of tnia edition is at Stoay-I 
huwt.) ' 



jfiM. AstcTB Goidone d« Monta 

1 D niiiii TTi rTtrtf~ **—"—' PetroCooino, SocieUtu 
tat. J H <i mi) »»»^' 

'nai \wi «fae«i Ibl til' >f these books 

Yii iiMislierlkiai]>« I' • anas Andrews, 

-if ^Jjogtatt l5o'.*.^l66r { and hesidea bis 

, oMT M "intf of them, and also on the 

ciM^«ltaM; «iie& b a small slab of alate, let 

te <a Mi(B (Haa, and mensuring 7| in. by jj. 

7)ei ttrt i1m> etghty-Btivcit pieces of gloss, 

igMinf MtdL hmI M«in ; some window lead, and 

MfrntitfCf^MAjf **> °^^ sBcring bell. 


Vi-» i>. ix. 197. 312. 405. ; x. 18.) 

I toSj cooc«de to your learned correspondent 

)tK. Brcsr<», that " historical evidence " and 

gatmffViiOiis " testiinuDj/' if unexceptiontable, 

crM *• prpfcrred to the " opinions " of moderns. 

Tiat 'm fuf-t-Tidcnt. But what he advances as 

IMkial evidence is either not to the purpose, or 

iBlrBilwwtliy : and of the two testimonies re- 

fend ta fruBi St. Oregorj and St. Augustig, the 

•e '* baide the mark ; the other, I doubt not, 

■mL ftvTc to be spahous, when I succeed in 

TU qoeation between us is — did the primitive 
AkA ot ^tilin t>egiu the fust of Letit from the 
HOk or the wventh week before Kaster ? That it 
tapafirtim the seventh, I stated on the authority 
■ Martene ; who, though a modern, was, never- 
Atfaa. eo »tori.-d with the knowledge of eccle- 
I aiMl liturgical history, that his statement 
I be eatitled to be received, not merely as an 
wna. init almost as an authoritative decision. 
Iwie&nfor that statement to St. .iVmbrose, "De 
XU (t jejunio, cap. 10." I have since examined 
fM»aj^ referred to, and find that what the 
t«ji. Is limply to this effect — that at Milan, 

I* ibc observance of Quadragesima, the 

Slta^ys as well as the Sundays were excepted 

frn tke fast. Hence Martene infers that, ns a 

■■liir of course, the £Iilanese began Lent from 

da il*«alh Sunday like the Orientals : as they 

hhaid tiMM in exeeptino; the Saturdays, so 

Ifcff awwy^ j irily imitated them as to the com- 

{ the fast. 1 freely acknowledge 

>»e does not mention a seven weeks' 

and so far, the pueage is not 

n:**, ii>>w<.'ver, does M«. Bucktos es- 

hb poeition by the testimonies he rei'crs 

-* 4iigiutin nv'} '^' 'ircjory. As to St. 

>re is i> lie says that at 

iti'.-.. ... lb Suiulay, an<l no 

f«« ll*.; -.iiju- ill il:.- Wfitern 

'«> i-Uti.'y :ir ];i]me, how- 

-uuiug, begaa the fut 

from Quinqaagetima, even from a Tery remote 
period, if the letter of Tclesphonu, aano 127, is 
to be considered as genuine : — 

" Quapropter <«gnosctte . . . stntatuoi «*««, nt septem 
hebdoniadas pleoos ante sanctum Poscho, oraoM olcrici 
in lortem I>onuni vocati, Jk cum--- it^iunent; i|iilt#ii iit 
discreta ewe (letiet vita cleHi inim converw- 

tioDC, ita et injejanto dab«t li ." 

As to Mr. Buckton'« reicience t» St. Ambro«e, 
nothing can be more puzzling. He gives no quo- 
tation, but merely a reference, thus — " (Sertn. 
x.xxii., Amb. Op. v. 22. B)." I presume the B 
refers to the Benedictine edition ; by far the best. 
Now I have examined this edition, and have failed 
to discover it among the Hernions, or indeed in 
any part of the Saint's works. As to the " Ser- 
mons " so colled, they are shown by the learned 
editors to be spurious, and are thus classed -^ 
" Serraones S'". j\.mbrosio hactenus adscript!." 
But even among these I have not succeeded in 
finding the passage alluded to, in which the Saint 
" assigns as a reason for its consisting of forty-two 
days, that such was the number of stations of the 
Israelites in passing from Egypt to the promised 
lond." There is a treatise entitled " De XLII. 
manslouibus liliorum Israel." This;, however, ac- 
cording to the editors, is decidedly spurious. 
But even here I have failed to discover any allu- 
sion to the connexion of the quadragesimal ob- 
servance with the stations of the Israelites. Will 
Mb. Blckton, therefore, kindly produce the 
quotation, or give us a more intelligible relfer- 
ence '( If the passage be taken from toe genuine 
works, and if it assert distinctly that Lent at 
Milan commenced only from the sixth Sundoy 
before Easter, I willglaiUy achtowledge that to be 
irrefragable evidence, and will say " causa iinita 
est." I seek only the truth. 

The historical evidence, also, from Sozomen 
and Socrates, has no direct bearing on the ques- 
tion. That adduced from Sozomen, in whicii he 
states that the faithful at Constantinople iind the 
neighbouring countries as far as PlMEnicia, kept 
a fast of seven weeks, does not in any way show 
that there was not in the Western Church an 
exceptionid city which did the same. And as to 
Socrates, — even if the passage quoted touchc<l the 
question — he is on this subject most untrust- 
worthy. In a few lines immediately preceding 
the very extract produced by Ma. BocjtTo», 
Socrates says : — 

" avTWa T« rp* roO nurxa mfVTW, iXXmf rrop' aAAoit 
^XaTT0H4V« «oTu' evp<;r" o! iLtv yip i* Pwf P; Tp«« rpb rav 

ri<trtiHi<ri." (Lib. V. 2t) 

At Home they fasted only three weeks before 
Easter ; and out of these, deducted the Saturdays 
ond Sundays! So says Socrates. Surely Mk. 
Bucaxos must have overlooked this passage; 
otherwise he would never hove quoted this author, 
tLu» contradiciing, ^«vl ^AMli, v\i.<i n<31 <«*<i- 



monj be produces in \m letter, from St. Au- 
guscin, ▼!«. that St. Ambrose, -wLen coasultcfl, 
replied, " When I go to Kame, I fast on the 
Snturdny oa they do at Rome." Socrates, then, 
is utterlj untruatworthy on this point. Martene 
iBj^of him, — 

'*'Veriirn Socnitem, *i non mendacii, saltern oici tan lio! 
arguunt Cassianua el S. Leo Papa, ipsi mtale tequiilos, aed 
BtKHiOritate longi 8Dp«riore<, qui non loliim treo, «ed sex 
integral bebdumadas Roma, alque ad^ in Oceidente 
jejanatum fuiiae tradant" (/>« AMiq. £cc, JHHlMut, lib. 
IV. cap. 18.) 

Benedict XIY., also, speuking of this strange 
awertion, snys : — 

- , . . " id purum pntum inendacium eaat, «vtncunl 
contrariA Leonis Mu^ui, Petri Cbrysoloi;i, aJigruoiqau 
PatruiD, qui SocratU tctale Ti:ccruDt, testimonia coiigeatii 
a NaUli Alexandro, Dissert, iv. ad sec. 2." (2>e S^nodo 
DiaetvmA, lib. xi. cap. 1.) 

I demur, moreover, to the principle which 
seems to be assumed by your correspondent, that 
any one writing at a former period is to be tnken 
aa affording " evidence " of what took place 
during thut period. That depends on niauy cou- 
ditioDs. Would a man now writing, in Loudon, 
on the customs of the inhabitants of Moscow, for 
example, but who never had been at Moccow, 
afford "historical evidence" of those customs? 
Now Socrates was a la)'miui, living at Constanti- 
nople ; and he advances un absurd assertion about 
Rome, which, ns we have seen, is in opposition to 
h\% contemporaries, who had greater opj>ortunlties 
of knowing the truth. His authority, tbcn, is 

Mb. Bcckton speaks of " the difliculty arising 
from the darkness spread over this period (eighth 
and ninth centuries) by the ascendency of Kome, 
then encouraging the propagation of idle tales, in 
lieu of history and criticism." Now from this I 
of course totally dissent ; but I refrain from com- 
bating it, because such inflammable matter is, I 
think, entirely unsuited to the peaceful pages o| 
" N. & Q." John Wh-Uams. 

Arno's CourL 

(a** S. vii. 350. ; viii. 301. ; x. 61. 97.) 

The following letters and documents relating to 
Bishop Bedell arc preserved in lier Majesty's 
State Paper Oflicc : — 

1627. May 29. Charlu I. to JUord Dtpnty. [Hv. Carv. 
Tisconnt Fallclandl. For William bedell, b.L., to be 
Promet of Trinity Collfge by Dublin. (Copy.) 

1G21>. June 2. William BtdrIL, tht late Provntt of 
Trittttji OMtge, to ArekbiMliap J^aud. To oaaist the two 
fslloira of the CoUeoe deputed to intercede with tlie King 
for their freedom of election of a new Provoat. [X. 13. 
There is attached to this letter a very perfect iinpreniion 
of Bedell's »ea1, bearing bis pecnhar device — « crucible in 
Aamea, sad surrounded with the Hebrew motto,] 

2630. Dec. 6. Bishop of AUmorc to ArxJibiilmp Laud. 


Has received his letter encloaed in ihnfeoTMr TTamllton. 
Itclates the strife be has falleu i: ' i« Mi 

aatrortbv cbancellorof bikdiocv- -vike^. 

1030. 'Dec. 15. OriUrt of the „ .;„..(,.... ^ A4 

Loftus, Viscnunt Ely, and Klchord Boyla, Karl uf 

and Council in the cause of Wiltiam, Bishop of Kill 

iod Ardaj{h, /V/., and Robert Fctrall. 

that the town and Castle of Glynne n 

land sneicntlv belonging to thi< Mli' 

getlier with llie Rectariea of CI . Uondi 

i^ould be rcaMured to the Chur. ,ii. (Uopy.^ 

1C30. Dec 19. Charles 1. to tfit j.iTtli ./ualicn. Wa| 
rant for carrying into effect the al>uve Order, uotwil 
standing the statute of Mortmain. 

1G31. Mar lOi, Dublin. Bittuip of Kilmort and Aw 
to Archhifhop Laud. Touching thv castle of Glynne . 
12 cartronei of land laying; bard l)y iu Ardii^h, 
Liiiagh O'Ferral, fcoinetimc holding the place of Bl 
Ardttgh [1583—1603], made away with, and wh 
Thomas Gary Mideavaurs (o wresl frou the me. 

1637, Sept. 2. Bithop of Kiimure to Lauit Esf 
Laud's thoaghts about (lur'university patent add slatob 
Hopes the settlement of the Culle^ will he healthfal I 
the Church. The Kiag'a letter* in favour of iha Bk' 
of Ardagh and, Kilmore nbont the Leilriin Uiida, 
called to residence Mr. Nfitolas] BeroanV Dean of i 
rural deanery of Rilmore. 

1637. Oct. 12. Laud to BiAop of KUiiwre. Hit vie 
as to dissntring pluralities, es])ecially of bishopric* 
resi<|^ce of clergy. (I'xtract.) 

ICiSS. Sept. I'J. Acts of the Diocesan Syaod of Rilmora 
on the cuiuplaiiit of Margery Kin^;, wife of Mnrtaoh 
KinL', Vicar of the parish of Tetnpleport, against WiUiasi 
Itnyly, Vicar of AiisgUelitT, for batUry aud injurj' to hui 
hasbond and herself. 

1686. Oct. 20. The inhibition snit from the VrimlUmtl 
Armagh to the Bishop of Elilmore against making syavlal 

1CS8. Nov. IS. Dublin. Bi*hoi> of Kilmon to 
nfiland. The 
111 I 
Mr. Davly of the benefice into which he fint iatnM 
himself and excommunicated him for his seeonit litra- 
sion into that of Mr. King, the traualator of Iha BiUt 
into Irish. 

K>38. Dec. 1. Ditluf of Kilmore to iJit Lord 
[Thoa. Wentwortb, Earl of Stralftird.] VlodlcatgjJ 
KioK. whose liTinRhe bad tak<m away, and r« " "^ 
LonJ Primate, the Siahop vi Sloatli, and .Sir Ja 
for his character. His fltneta to tia&aUto the 

IfiSS. Dec 20. Bahop of KSmon to Lwi. I* kIoiI I _ 
Grace does not despair of the recovery of our ecdesioillear 
body. The Lord Primate promi:ioJ to use his utaM 
eude«T0urs to remedy oar diaordsn. Ilie bruit haa taatft 
ceased concerning his briniiing into the CaaUe-CiiMab*'. 
and pritrnMnire Tor the Diocosau Synod. — TIm taialB 

1C38. Dec. Sum of the matters objecle^l against Mar- 
tach King. — Tndorried Articles of the High Commisaios. 

16S|. Jan. 13. Bi,hnp of D«ry [D'. John Drarahall] 
to Lttud. Inter alia, forbears to send the Iriahop of U- 
more'a caoona lately made at hia Diocesan SjrDod. JOetrf 
cotuidera it a strange attempt, and the first that baa IWB 
beard of ia Europe for 500 vears. 

163|. March 13. 0)arlin l. to (he ArMiMkop vf DwUk 
ancf ptAers relative to the complaint of fi' Allan ~ 
the Vicar-general and OtScial of the 1 ■ 
and a certain Thomas Price, made tu 
magh, (Formal Docrunent by the LotU .- 

1039. March 20. The Frimo'e of Amofh fc Chmtttil 

Sickness of his son 

'he ill success of lite 

Inhibition of ptiir.ilities ana non-re^idencc. He JepHrai 

> & X Ara. 3S. •eo.'] 



ctJDC ttie busiiiCM of appAal between Dr. AUou 
•III] Ibe Bi&hop of Eilmor?. ludoncd by the 
' Apoitlc'a reluuiur^'." ^Au iiidosure, 12 May, 

9. May 2. FetU'ton of the Bishop oC-Kilmore to the 

Cbanceiy, with Onler thereon, touching two 

lappeils, one by Allan Cooke, Doctor of Law, his 

eneruUtlic other by Williuin Bayly, M.A, (Copy.) 

liny 24. Dublin. Bishnp of KUmore to Laua. 

ng h'\a Cbaacellor's appeal from the Lord fri- 

thc Chiuderj-. (Encloses Charles's letter to tlic 

shop of Dublin and others, anj hU petition to the 


Juae tS. Laud fa tkc BMop of Kilmatt. The 
Hf Gb«ne«llor Cooke and bayly to the King iii 
_' — explains the danger of locurtjag « pnmumirt 

Aoat bis dioceian ayood The broken times of the CImrch 

we bve in. — ITje speech of the Chief Justice of the Com- 
noo Plca5. (Copy.) 

1689. Aug. r. Biilicf of Deny to Laud. SUtea {inttr 
wSd) that ibu Bishopnc of mimore Li settled by the au- 
""otity of the Council Board. 
1641. Not. C. BanonitraMce of the Geotry and Com- 
' '^ 11 to the Lofda JtuUcea and Cooncil. 
.ry ducuineut is generally attributed to 
1 her lie wos coerced or not into drawing 
— w llu Clin MT ? ] 

1. Not. 10. Dublin Caatle. AiuHtt of the Lonls 
£Bob^ Lord Dillon, and bir William Puracmi] 
" " to the above. [A very tevere docuaeoLj 


(2»« S. X. 89.) 

reference to the voluoiinous and most valu- 
- " Eeports of the Commissioiiers on the Public 
fUewtb of Ireland " enables me to anatfer the 
••Wjiry of iisHBA on thht subjeot very fullj. 

iDiir corresf)OD<lent will there find (21111 Rep. 
S«p. p. 6i.) n lUport from the late Sir ^^'illiam 
Betlarn, iLen (Ibll) Deputy Ulster, giving a list 
of the oon tenia of tJ>e Office of Arms at Dublin. 
^|>ii iiat i« alao printed id Moule's BiOiiothecu 
auMiea, p. 609, but, as neither of the6e books 
In oomwoilly to be met with. I triwscribe the 
*^*it (from the original) so fur ns it i-elalcs to 
"* Query of your correspondent : — 

litivr Kiag u( Arms has in his possession = [ens- 
'^ ' ', Four 'V'olanxa of Books called Tisitatloa books 
t the Pedigrees and Anns of the Xobility and 
r aevaral Countic* in Ireland, particularly the 
ef DnUin, Maath, Lotith, and Wexford,' from 
ItiiU, taken by Tirtae of (joinmissiona directed 
qIms Narboone and Daniel Moleyncux, Ulalc" 
Anns. U appears that Visitations were made 
Counties, from the references in rariotts Books 
^^_ th« • ilSce to such as were formerly there, and 
J*** »«re, it is auppoaed, detained at private property 
*Jwh»itj or executors of the former Officers, but at 
••JS l.eriod is unknown. Many Books are 

5* '■ -arried off by the Person holding the 

2Jf ' runuivant of Anns, who tleil to France 

■JU^Kuig James II. Ue idso carried off the Official 

. A »cry interesting Account of the ^Vexford Vi- 
*it«lion of 1618 — the only one mentioned by your 

correspondent — was given in the Wexford Inde- 
pendent of August 6th, 1856. 

1 should wilL pleasure lend a copy of that paper 

to Abiiu.a^ (whose address I know), if it trould fii- 

cilitate his inquiries. 

I It is much to be desired that the good old ca«- 

; tout of holding Vinitations (if ever it was a cnstoiu 

atthiH side of the Cbanuol), should be revived; and 

[ were the courteous geutlemjin and accomplished 

genealogist who now holds the Office of Ulster to 

visit each county in Ireland, there is little fear 

that his summons would be disregarded ereu in 

these utilitarinn days. 

Since the appointment of Sir Bernard Burke, 
the Office of Arms has a^^sumcd an air of neatness 
and a lightsomeness not at nil in keeping with the 
musty associations usually connected with such 
places and literary men are allowed free access to 
the documents there preserved when their inquiry 
is for a literary object. 

It is to be regretted the pyowers of Ulster in re- 
straining the use of unuutliorised urma ai'e not put 
in force. Not to mention arraorini bearings tor 
which some kind of prescriptive right is claimed, 
one is constantly horrified by seeing on the panels 
of cars and cabs plying for hlx'e in the streets of 
Dubliu barbiirous imitaiiuus of heraldic devices, 
depicted in the most zlariiig colours, utterly re- 
gaidlcss of every principle of " the gentle Science 
of Armorie." 

In England the tn.x on armorial bearings gives 
a sanction to law of the Kings of Arms, and tacitly 
enforces that sovereign's sway. 

In "justice to Ireland " let us have this tax ex« 
tended to this coiuitry : it is the first ond the last 
wc shall ask for ! Jous Ribtoh Gasstis, A.M. 
McTTion Street, Dublin. 

CoRoKATioK OF Edwa&d IY. (2'"' S. X. 106.)— 
There is a mystification in the "extract from the 
Cinque Ports at Komncy," as communicated by 
your correspondent, which is indeed puzzling. 
"Be it remembered, that on Sunday after the 
Feast of St. Leon, and on the Vigil of the Apostles 
Peter and Paul, in the year 1461, our Lord Ed- 
ward the 4th after the Conquest ' sublevatus est 
in regeni et apud Westra. coronatus.' " Now, 
that the Sunday after the Feast of St. Leo should 
be also the Yieil of SS. Peter and Paul is simply 
impossible. Ihe Feast of Sl Leo and the Vigil 
occur, and have always occurred, on the same 
day — June 28. That this is the cose at present, 
anyone may satisfy himself by inspecting the lio- 
luun breviary. ALd there has been no alteration 
since 14t)l, as I have a proof now before me in a 
MS. volume written just at that period. This 
codex commences with a Calendar, in which June 
28 is thus noted : " Leon\e ^pe. N\^\>l\«.^ K.v.^ 
June 29, •'Peth «t Ttt\i\S" Tu\n\t»x«A. VVvjt 



[2- a X. A 

also before me a very early printed missal, an. 
1464, in which the day is thus marked in the 
Calendar: "iiij kl." (Julii) m est, 88 Junii] 
" Sci Leonis pape. non transf. Vigilia." And in 
the Calendar of a Sarum breyiary printed at Paris, 
1524, 1 find the day thus marked: "iiii kaL Leo* 
nifL ppe" (E guess at this last contraction, as it is 
blotted oat accordbg to the command of Henry 
VIII.) « et conf. 3 lect. cu no. Vigilia. 28." 
That Sir Harris Nicolas, therefore, should assign 
the 13 th day of June as the Feast of Leo, on the 
authority of the Cotton MS., is somewhat sur- 
prising. I cannot help suspecting also a little 
oversight on the part of your correspondent as to 
the reading of the document from which he quotes. 
It would have been better, I think, to have sent 
^ou the original Latin (as I suppose the whole is 
in Latin) of the first as well as the second part of 
the extract; for it is in the first part that the 
whole of the question, — the date of the corona- 
tion, — lies. However, it is sufficiently clear that 
the day of Edward IV.'s coronation was the 28th : 
and it is worthy of special remark, that the coro- 
nation day of our most gracious Queen is also the 
28th of June. John Wiuuams. 

Amo's Court. 

Rev. George AVatson (2°* S. viii. 396.; ix. 
281. 355.) — I have only during the last few days 
been able to look over " N. & Q." for the last 
four months. 

I have in my possession a MS. Sermon, given 
me bjr my father some years ago, and upon which, 
on his authority, I maiked the name of Bev. 
George Watson as the author. I have every 
reason to believe in the correctness, of this state- 
ment, as the subject of Ma. Gotch's inquiry was 
an intimate friend of my great-grandfather, the 
Rev. Benjamin Rudge. Had I time I think I 
should find in iny father's correspondence some 
particulars of Mr. Watson. Perhap a search 
amongst the records of Winchester School might 
give some information. 

The text of the sermon referred to is James iv. 
6., and at the end are references to Eccles. vii. 8., 
Proverbs, iii. 34., as if the sermon was to do duty 
for each of the three texts. 

The sermon has evidently been used by others 
besides its author. 

Whether my father had many of Mr. Watson's 
sermons I cannot say ; if so, they were gradually 
destroyed. I have, however, fraCTients of two, 
which from a comparison of handwriting are, I 
^nk, by Mr. Watson, rather than by Mr. Rudge. 
One was intended for a Sermon on Isaiah, Jxiii. 
1. The subject of the other is the Resurrection. 

F. B. Rblton. 

Dacre Park, Lee. 

WiTUEBED Violets (2''* S. ix.427.) — In com- 
pliMnee with the wub of Jf. J. A. 1 send the en- 

tire of this poem, whush I (xq^y from an i 
book of mine. As well as I recollect, I 
upwards of thirty years ago, but from v 
or periodical I cannot now say. I hi 
gering memory that it was from The 
Oazetie, but perhaps the words suffixed i 
a clue : — 

" J<ong yean have paas'd, pale flowers, sine 
Were culled, and given in bricUtest bio 
By one whose eye eclipaed your blue. 
Whose breath was like yonr own peiAm 

« Long years, but tho' your bloom be gone. 
The fragrance which your freshness she 
Survives as memory lingers on, 
When all that blessed its breath have i 

" Thus hues and hopes will pass away— 
Thus youth and bloom and bliss depart 
Oh, what is life when these decaj' ? 
The faded leaf, the withered heart." 


HoEN Books (2»* S. ix. 101.)— Po 

Srinter of Gravesend, was a very cleve 
ustrlous man. He was the founder oi 
Kent Archaeological and Naturalist Soc 
died at Dartford, and is buried in W 
Churchyard. His son, who served in 
under General Evans, gave me the foll< 
formation, which may serve as a clue to t 
of the extinction of the Horn Book : " 1 
printed a Child's First Book, or Read 
Easy, vidg. ' Redamadazy,' 2 years befor 
who usually has the ci-edit of that work 
I may add that the wood-blocks with wh 
illustrated are now in my possession, 
with the blocks Pocock used for perhap 
halfpenny edition of Cock Robin, Jack 
Kilur, and other children's nursery lii 
Pocock, Senior, was the author of Th 
of Oravetend, Memoirs of the TufUmFam 
of Thanet, &c. &c., and he was the pr 
The Navtf List. His Muscum^as sold b 
an auctioneer, ^t the Town Hall, Dartfo 




(2'"' S. ix. 364. 428.; x. 1 1 7.)— Instanc 
communication in the early Protestant d 
by no means uncommon, and may be f 
met with in the reigns of^Eliz. and Jamc 
following extracts are from a paper in 
Paper Office, Dom. Car. I., assigned to 
1630, and relate to fees payable to Di 
Parry, Chancellor to the Bishop of Exet 

" Nicholas .... 

cited lo appear in the Chancellor's Court of 
not standing at the befUef] to which they ana 
they weare regnler and deared to be dismist, b 
till they brought a Certificate the next Conrte 
there fees, before which Court day, they haveii 
to ridd to London, were exoommnnicate and pi 
and 12<> a piece fbr their oath.". 

, K. '80.] 

Kythc, Nkholu Wikeley, wiih U penons 
miluly exoMumit/Ua^i >0(l wore demao'ted 
ece for feta^MSjijft^ for even- n*te» tbey 
tho pretentDanL" 

iibbes threatoeJ hr li'. Chincctlor to be ex- 
.ted anina he woold piT lh« fres di'tnaniled ; 
(zcommDnicatcd and sw «Un<]«, but like to 
br his suite 17* „ O-* and •$■ „ 2^ morr," 

jBespondcDt Mb. Wim-iamsow will pro- 
bher exninplc« in the satnc series. 
■ AV. Douglas HAMtLTow. 

F THE Scottish Pabuamknts (i** S. 
— Scorrs seems unaware tbnt tlie Acts 
(rliaments of Scotlnntl have been pub- 
iler ttufhoritv in eleveti vol«tnes ie7-ia- 
:ouiplcte. Vol. ii., although the first 

(viz. 1S14), contains the Acts of the 
U from U24 to 1367. In nn OrJer hy 
ttissioncrs prefixed to tliis volume it is 
i " that the " publication of the Parlia- 
lecords of Scot hind shall commence with 
I of Kin^T James I., and be carried on 
elj," but that the first volume " be 

3 second volume in order to leave room 
es of volumes for the more ancient par- 
f proceedings prior to the Reij»n of King 
" which first volume accordingly ap- 

1844, embracing the Acts of the Par> 
romA. D. 11'24 to A.D. 1433. The last 
Be* contain the Acts from KiTOto 1707. 
I also a volume of " The Purliametiiarj 
l>f Scotland in the General Register 
inburgli. Vol. I. Printed by Comniand 
iesty. King George III. 1804." The 
here is 1240, the last 1571. There is a 
ime containing " An Account of the 
;s of the Parliament of Scotland which 
nburgh. May 6th, 1 703. Printed 1 704." 
I Index, or Abridgement of the Acts of 
\ mnd Convention (Scots) froni 1424 to 
I the Act ratifying and approving of 

of Union of the Two Kingdoms, Edin. 
Sir James Stuart, of Goodtrees, Solioi- 
J for Sculland. Wiijjam Galuiway. 

IX Westoh CiiuBcii (i-* S. X. 108.) 
rrespondent W. A. Leigiiton will find 
representation of the figures he men- 
illawuv's Heraldry, and also in a work 
by liall, Vertue, & Co. (price tis.). 
Manual of Heraldry. They represent, 
to Dallnw.iy, Sir John de Weston, of 
irzars, in StalTordshirc, and Isabel 
iis wife, and are taken from a volu- 
sdigree compiled by Sir W. Segar, 

H. S. G. 

iwfs IX Verse (•i""' S. x. 108.) — About 
nentioned, the broadsheet, ImsI Dying ■ 
|n[«, atid ConfMnoit of au executed 
Pfeularly concluded with a " Copy of 
ntten by bim "the night before his 


execution." A specimen of such autobiographic 
lyrics will probaily satisfy C. E.'.* curiosity. It 
was supposed to be written by Roland Preston, 
who was executed at Shrewsbury for the murder 
of Mr. Bruce and hia housekeeper at Longford, 
Shropshire, about forty- six years ago : — 

" Rolond Preston is my name, 
From Fordhale Gates in Shropshire came. 
Who by a fals« deluding girl 
Am brought to grief and shame." 

U. O. N. 
MiLToji's "Pabawse Lo»t" (2"* S. v. 82.) 
— Enclosed are three other titles, used for the 
no-called "First Edition" of Milton's Parodist 
Lost, differing from those noted by Neo-Eboba- 
CBHSis as being in his possession. Your corre- 
spondent under that signature may be assured 
that the Camus he possesses is, without doubt, a 
rare volume, not more than eight or ten being 
known ; also, that it would at this lime produce 
four times as much as it did at Rright's sale in 
1844, and may be therefore congratulated on his 
purchase at that time. 

I may as well, while on Milton, for Mb. Keight- 
LEt's use (see his Life of Milton, p. 2C5.) un- 
ravel Ihe " lines on the Combridge Carrier," he 
confessing himself uiinble to make sense of them. 
The worthy carrier (Hobson) being of full age, 
and the prevailing iilngiic not causing llie usual 
packages to l»e earned to and fro to Cambridge, 
alike warned him that " his time was come," but 
the " ruling passion strong in death," he still 
cried " more weight," meaning of course to carry 
to and fro, so that subsistence miglit continue. 

" Pamdife loft. | A | POEW | in | TEK COOKS.— 
The Author y. Jtf. j Licensed and Entred according | to 
order | {Ike. as No. I. p. Hi. 2'"> S. v.) IC6«.". 

No Address or Arguments to this Issue. 

Another same as previously noted (No. 3. page 
82.), except stars on the tide ,', John Milton 

" Paradise lost, t A f POEM I di | TEX HOOKS. | 
The Author | JOit.V kir.TOX\ LOXDOX. | Printed 
by S. Simnumt, and are to be sold by | T. Helder at the 
Angel in LUtle Brittain. \ ICC9." | 

Arguments, seven leaves. On the last pa^ is 
Errntii without any address of the printer. N. T. 

Fbaxcbs C. Babhabd (•2"<' S. x. 69.) — All the 
information I can give to Ma. Inglis is this. I 
have another book written by that lady, called 
The Doleftd Death and Floicert/ Funeral of Fanctj, 
1837, trom which it appears that she is the wife of 
Mr. Alired Barnard, and the niece of the famous 
botanist Sir J. E. Smith, to whose widow the book 
is dedicated. F. J. S. 

LoTSGEViTT (2"^ S. X. 13. 5G.) — In defiance of 
scepticism, overlaid with whatever amount of 
fable, to b« received " cum grano solis," ami sub- 
ject to whatever pruningt, Acre v* dw3X>x\»«*»^<s« 



[2>« & X. Aug. 1 

initances of l«ng<ihened life, a solid substratttm of 

I tend yoa three instances which, fVom the at- 
tending circumstances, seem to be well-authenti- 
cated : — 

In the museum of the Perth Antiq. Society are 
two portraits, carefullj engraved, and of a good 
size. One of these is the portrait of 

" Peter Garden, who lived in tht parish of Aacbterlesn, 
Aberdeenshire, and died 12th Jantiary, 1776, sged 181 

The other is that of 

« Isobel Walker, who lived in the parish of Daviot, 
Abardeenshire, and died the 2nd of November, 1774, aged 
112 years. Established from the record of the parish of 
Kayne, in the Presbytery of Garrioch, county of Aber- 

These portraits were " presented to the Literary 
and Antiquarian Society of Perth by the Rev. 
Mr. Footc, 1785." 

Both of the deaths are recorded as notabilities 
in the Scots Mag. for the period. la the number 
for January, 1775, we have 

■< Jan. 12. In the parish of Aachterless, Peter Garden, 
aced 131. Be retained his memory and senses to the 
last He has lived under ten soveragns, vis. Charles L, 
Oliver Cromwell, Bicbard Cromwell, Charles II., James 
VII., William and Mary, Anne, and Georges I. II. III. 
He remembsred to have been sent, when a |^, to the 
wood to cut boughs for spears in the time of the civil 

And in Nov. 1774 : — 

« Nov. 2. In the parish of Daviot, Isabel Wallctt, 
aged 110." 

I now cive you the third instance. In the 
churchyard of Kirlciiston, a little to the west of 
the old Norman church, stands a headstone with 
the following inscription : — 

" In Memory of 

Petkii Stewart, 

who died 

In this parish at the advanced aga 

of 101 years on the 10th October, 


This stone 

is erected by some of the memben 

'of a family 

whom he faithfiilly served 


of half a century." 

The registrar assured me that this was quite 
true, having Icnown the man well, and that he was 
in life when he first toolc the census. He was a 
farm servant on the farm of Hnmbie, in Kirlciiston 
parish. He did not know whether the register of 
nis birth existed, but believed he came from the 
Highlands, and founded his age upon the period 
when as a boy he first came to the parish. 

WiujAX Gaux>wat. 



X. 27.> — Debrett says, Richard, sixth Eari of 

Angleeey, married 1st, 34 Jan. 1715, Anne, d 
ter and neiress of John Frust, Esq., of Mm 
Devon, by whom (who died 3 Aug. 1741} h 
no issue ; he married 2ndly, only a month 
15 Sept. 1741) after death of first wife, Ji 
Donovan, by whom (who survived him, an 
married to M. Talbot, Esq., and died 20 
1776)' he had issue, 1. Arthur, hb succeasoi 
three daughters. The Earl died 1761, and < 
death the succeaaion to hb Irish honours wai 
tested between hb son and John Annesley oi 
lisack, Esq., who denied the validity of^tb 
Earl's marriage with Mist Donovan ; but af\ 
investigation which lasted nearly four year 
question was decided in favour of the Earl'i 
But on the coming of age of Arthur, in 17( 
was permitted to sit as Viscount Yalentia i 
Irbh House of Peers only, his writ aa S 
Anglesey being thrown out by the English 1 
of Lords. If H. J. M. would like to see tli 
count given by Debrett of, as he says, "o 
the most curious cases in the history of the 
age," I shall most willingly forward it (dat 
tion of peerage, 1826). I should imagine thi 
question i^ When was this Richard, son of tk 
Earl by Ann Salkeld, born, oa a month 
elapsed between the death of his first wifi 
the marriage of lils second, who survived Us 


ToUB Records (2-' S. x. 63.) — Ma. X 
Rom has done the antiquarian " state 
service" by his excellent article on the i 
interesting subject. I have, for some years 
copied inscriptions which I found on head (g 
and mural stones, in the United Kinedoa 
in some old towns in France and Belgtam. 
land and Wales afford, perhaps, the richest 
in this respect. What an interesting hiat 
collection may be made by the correspondct 
" N. & Q." by sending what may be pidu 
in " those neglected sfrats," where repose " 
hearts once pregnant with celestial fire." I 
you the first that comes to hand. In the 1 
some village churchyard of Hanslope, near 
verton, in Bucks, b a tombstone (no date, 
is broken off, but it is about 1832, as I can i 
from other facts), with the following inscripti 

" Strong and athletic was my frames 
Far away from home I came^ 
And manly fought with Simon Byrne, 
Alas ! but lived not to return. 

" Reader, take warning by my flite. 
Unless yon rue your case too late ; 
And if you've ever fbught before. 
Determine now to fight no more." 

This b the tombstone of Sandy M'Kay, oi 
the finest specimens of a Scotch puf^ist that 
tnnrelled south of the Tweed, who met hb ( 
bjr the beating he got firam Simon Byrne 
Iridi boxer, the so-called Bottle ; 'or rather 

X-* & X. ACG. S5. ■flO.] 



dilgustiDg exhibition took place some time in Uie 
jntr 9tnt«(}. AliLorrent ns the dL>alU must seeoi 
to «11 right thinking persons, the " epitilph " is 
curious ; and perhaps the tuoral or admonition in 
th« two Ust hnes should not be disrcgnrdeJ. Is 
uot something approximating to the pas&agc 


" H* who fight! and runs away. 
Will (or nwy) live to fight another day," 

S. Rkdmokd. 

The folloivin<! inscription is copied rrom a tomb- 
etone in the church of Cantlcy, a demote vilkgc 
on the north biwk of the estuary of tlie Yare. 

It gul£cienlly characterises the life of a man of 
independence, and to a certain extent the mental 
oalibre of his associates, the enthusiasm with 
rhich tlicy pursued the country sports, and their 
lionest rejects, though quaintly expressed, for the 
[loss of their boon companion, who possessed the 
xneans, and did not fail to apply them, to promote 
Oic pleasures of the chase, and to cheer them by 
^X3» hospitality. 

In the ancestral residence of the family is pre- 
serreil an equestrian portrait of this fine old 
^J)ortsman, accompanied by the Duke of Grafton, 
^^oih in curled and flowing wigs, with running toot- 
*x»en, and surrounded by their hounds and atten- 
'lanls: — 

" Here lieth y body of Robert Gilbert 
of Cantlcy in v« Coanty of Norfolk, Gent,, 
who died 5^^ day of Otot^er, 1. 14, 
Aged 63 vt'ira. 
!■ wiM Tra^ality. LUXUSIANT 
la Juitice. and good acts, EXTRA VACANT, 
Tb all y world a UNIVERSAL FRIEND. 
Ho (b« to aoy, but y* Savage Kind, 
ilow many fair E-itateahave b«ea Erased, 
Br y sanio geoeroua means, y* bis EncrcaseJ. 
^U datr thns parformed to Heaven and Earth, 
Xidi lauore hour freslL toilsooie Sport gnve t>irtb. 

iHrni NIllROD seen, he would y* game decline, 
Tb Oilbert mighty Hunter^ nam« reaign. 
Tho' bundr«ds to y gronnd b« oft bath Cbaaed, 
Tku mbUlc FOX DEATH, earthed him beta at lost, ' 
■Aai UA a Fragrant Sc«nt, so sweet bi'bind. 
IhU. ougbt to be persued, bv all Mankind." 
H. D'AvEKsr. 
AcMT Saixt (i"* S. X. 46.)— Allow me, by 
^•y Oif sapplement, to remind you of my queries 
** 1^ cubject, forwarded early this year: — 1. 
I ^%» origin of this play, and how long known to 
I *Xirt; and 2. Is the bLtck lady suspended from 

^K ihops any relative, or la she the veriUibk old 
, ^4y on aaotber p^. Gsobgb Llotd. 

Bmu*» Maps (2** S. x. 8.) — Various maps 
^V »^ 1 > John Senex, conjointly with Charles 
l^r !in ^faxwell, are in the library of 

*rii.,;, , •-■..I'^e, Dublin. Among them are yorth 
^^terira and Gtrmami, Lond. 1710, fol.; Mos- 
•"•Jf fLond.J 1712, fof. ; Sacred Geogrnphy, con- 
^"iiiM in six maps [by John Scnex and William 

Toylor], Lond. 1716, 4to; Sittith Ameria^ Alia, 
Africa, Europe, Lond. [a. »,], fol. 'AK»it, 


RivEB JoHDAN (2"« R. X. 1 09.) — The Wftdy j 
Arabah, discoTered by Burckbardt in 1 822, waa 
conjectured to have been, at some remote period, 
the channel by which the Dead Sea had dis- 
charged its waters into the Balir Akabah (Ke<ii 
Sea) ; but it has been ascertained that this nevef 
could have been the case, as the level of the Dead 
Sea is considerably lower than that of the Red 
Sea. (Penny Ci/c. art. " Syria.") Lieut Sy 
mnnds, R.E., makes it 1312 feet, and Russmir 
1341 French (or 1431 English) feet below the ' 
level of the Mediterranean. The Lake of Taba^ 
rich (Tiberias) is 666 feet, and the ruins of Jericho 
are 660 feet below the level of the Red Sea. 

" Tlie fact undoubtedly ia," says Wilson {Land* nfth» 
BiUc, i. 28(>.), " that the Widf 'Arabah and ita coiitinna- 
tion, the valley of tbe Jordan, whatever partial changoa 
they may hare nndorgone in oar Adnmic era, together '■ 
form perhaps tbe roost wonderful crevasse in (be wholtt 
world — a Huuro made by volcanic and bmaltic erup- 
tions, long before the race of man appeared ou the globe." 

The Jordan (Shcriat Kebir) terminates in the 
Dead Sea, the excessive heat and evaporation 
leaving no water to be carried into the Red Sea 
or elsewhere. T. J. Bccktom. 


J. M. S. is referred, on the subject of his Query, 
to the Encjfclojusdia JJritannica, vol. xvii., eighth. 
edition, paragraph beginning at the last line of 
page 187.: — 

" It is now ganerally believed to be most probable tha^ . 
anterior to tbe historical period, Ibe whole valley from, i 
the base of Hermon to tbe Red Sea, was once nn arm oi | 
tbe Indian Ocenn, which has gradually subsided, leaving 
the three lakes in its bed with their connecting river." 

The same paragraph has farther remarks on the 
subject. It occurs under the title " Palestine." 



Jous WrrKEBS (2"' S. x. lO.)'— -InTa family 
pedigree the second son, his Christian name not 
being given, of one Whilyers or Witcher, is " said i 
to have been Dean of Chichester." Can he be 
identified with John Wythers ? W. C. 

Ambric.^n Rivkbs ("i"* S. x. 90.) — In answer 
to X. Y. Z. as to the volumes of water discharged 
into the sea by the St. Lawrence and tlie Misaia- 
sippi, I should say that the former is decidedly 
tbe greatest volume, I know nothing personally 
of the Utter, but I believe 12 to 14 feet is itfl 
greatest depth at any of its numerous mouthd, 
whereas the St. Lawrence (with which I am well 
rtcquaiiite<l) is navigable to Montreal, about .500 
miles from the sea, for the largest steamers which 
cross the Atlantic ; and the rcaaoTv fot \\siw \>«ivo% 
unable to proceed ^i\^« *w tvoX. ?wc i«wA. ot-w^x^t. 



C2<x S. X Aug 

bat the rapidity of the current called the Laehine, 
Bapida. The narrowest part of the river at Mon- 
treal is the site of the new Victoria bridge, [which 
is exactly two miles. Wm. 

G1.EBICAI. Incumbkkcixs (2°' S. x. 76.) — ^Igive, 
from the Clergy Litt of 1857, a table of sucn in- 
cumbents as were inducted before 1800. In the 
names to which an asterisk is prefixed a change 
has since taken place. 

Bromham. WilU. *H. Bayntan. 1798- 

Ashpringion. Deron. *Jacob Ley. 1795- 

BecUbt^ Gloncest«r. J. TimbriU. 1797- 

Brettmham. Suffolk. *S. Cole. 1798- 

Croston. Lancashire. S. Master. 1798. 

Dartington. Devon. *R. H. Fronde. 1799. 

Denbuiy. „ „ 1798. 

Drayton, Fenny. Lelc *S.B. Ileming. 1797. 

Enmore. Somerset *J. Poole. 1796. 

Etchinghara. Sussex. *H. Totty. 1792. 

Fagan, St. ^ Glamorg. *\V. B. M. Lule. 1792. 

Faringdon. Hants. *J. Benn. 1797. 

Felstead. Essex. 'J. Awdry. 1798. 

Gresley. Derby. ♦G.W.Lloyd. 1793. 

Hale. Gt. Line. *R. Bingham. 179G. 

Hartland. Devon. 'W. Chanter, 1797. 

Hooton Roberts. Yorks. C. W. Eyre. 1796. 

Kettlestone. Norfolk. J. Cory. 1796. 

Hnll. Yorks. J. H. Bromby. 1798. 

Stalffline^ near Lan- Lane J. Bowley. 1799. 


Merryn, St Comw. *J. Bailqr. 1791. , 

Moanton. Monm. E. Lewis. 1789. 

Narbnrgh. Suffolk. W. Allen. 1799. 

Norton Fitrwarren. Somerset J. Guerin. 1797. 

Otterhampton. „ 3. JeSery. 1794. 

Foole, St James's. Dorset P. W. Jollifib. [1791. 

Preston, St George's. I^nc. R. Harris. 1797. 

Shalden. Hants. "C. H. White. 1797. 

Shereford. Norfolk. J.Cory. 1796. 

Sibson. Leic *T. Neale. 1793. 

Thruxton cum King- Heref. *H. Wetberell. 1799. 


Tostock. Suffolk. J. Oakes. 1792. 

Upminster. Essex. * J. B. Holden. 1799. 

Westbnry-npon-Se- Glonc. *R. Wetherell. 1798. 


Westerham. Kent *R. Board. 1792. 

F. J. F. Gantiixon. 

Poems by Bcxns ahd Lockbart (2=* S. x. 
43.) — Your correspondent ♦ has given us " The 
Jingler," — "a poem," as he says, " attributed to 
Burns," but on what authority, he adds, he does 
not know : and that I implicitly believe. " Tlie 
Jingler " is no more like an emanation of Robby 
than of Rothschild. It has none of Bums's fa- 
miliar rhythm — none of his point — none of his 
fire. I would wager a plack that it was not written 
by Bums ; that it was not written bjr a Scotch- 
man :^ with much English spelling, it has some 
Soottuh spelling ; — an easy affair; but there is 
no Scottish phraseology; there are Scottish words, 
but no Scottish combmatioik of words ; it has not 
the Scottish mind: it wants coulmr locale. I 
could be more minute, but it is not worth while. 
J bmre * bazj recollection of having beard or 

read, somewhere, sometime, a set of vers 
an initial line, of which, 

" It was you, Christy, yon," 
sounds to me like a paraphrase : a stage 
I think. Some Other contributor to " N. 
may be able to help me out here. 

I believe (and I hope I may not be < 
injustice), that your correspondent is 
" Puck Steevens. At any rate I will g 
a lock of my hair if he can show that 
Jingler " was written by Bums ; and I will 
on him " my bonnie black hen," if he sho 
it was written by any Scotchman at all. 



i Mbanino of "End" in Buntan (2»* S. ; 
— George Offor is a name which one 
recognises with pleasure, whether as afib: 
reply to some curious inquiry into the hu 
value of old editions of tne Bible, or as a 
illustrator of the literature and life of Job 
yan. It was, I confess, with some surpris' 
read his queries relative to what had alw 
peared to me, and as I supposed to "rea 
general," the very obvious and familiar o 
of "end," OS the word is used in the p 
cited ; while the definition from Richardsoi 
quite beside the mark. Perhaps, indeed, the 
" I was with him most an end," may not t 
so intelligible as the other, but it is c 
enough among the good people of Yorkshi 
means that the greater part of my time was 
with, that being " an end," that I " most " 1 
secured, and enjoyed. As to the well- 
rhymes, alike clever in expression and p« 
in meaning, 

" For having now my method by the end. 
Still as I puU'd it came, and so I penn'd,"&c 
it appears to me so familiarly plain, and ob 
significant, that oth^r words can hardly i 
more BO, at least to common readers. Tl 
's plainly a comparison between the catchit 
of the cue of a story when conceived in tiM 
and reeling it off in words by the agency 
pen, and the getting hold of the thread of 
(or story) and unwinding it: a beautiful 
I think, and illustrated alike by the exti 
of the delicate filatures from the cocoon 
silkworm, and, had the attempt been succ 
the raising of the Atlantic cable. How muc 
beautiful and precious than the former ; hoi 
more marvellous, as well as more durabl 
the latter, that noble production of Bunya 
nius, for the editing and illustration of wl 
well as for the best life of its immortal 1 
English piety and English literature are so j 
indebted to George OrroR. 

I have often heard the jJirase " most ai 
used in Yorkshire to denote '^constantly," " 

J^ a. X. A«o. 20. '60.] 






•11 Blooff," "most of B penon'i time," &c. ; a mean- 
ing whiob exactly suils Mr. Offob's second 
extract. TLe kinUred, almost identical phrase, 
^ straight on end," meaning " straight forwards," 
" without delay," is equally common. The an in 
this case is the early form of <;m = onwards. 

Id the other two extracts, " to get by the end" 
seenu to be a figure taken from a ball or skein 
of siring or thread, the whole of which nmy easily 
hcmJltiluff, or unwound, by one who has once got 
hold <if it by the end. Cf. thread oC a discourse, 
»Dd the sailor's j/arn. J. Eastwood. 

SAiT Mlvks (!•' S. -vii. 261.) — "When and 

vhere was the first salt mine esiablished in Eng- 
land ? " The first pits of fossil or rock salt known 
in thi? country were accidentally discovered in 
Cheshire so late as a.d. 1670, at the very spot 
ttbue Domesday records some biine-springs (p. 
S68.). Henry VI. invited over some mauufac- 
turers of salt from Zealand. The monopoly of 
(his article was one of those which Elizabeth re> 

'TU« first discorerer of it was one .lohn Jackson of 
nalhm, about Lady-day last, as lie was searcblnE for 
C'^aUon the behalf of the Lord of the Soil, William }Iar- 
bary of Marbury, Eaquire." — Seo •• Extrncta of Two 
f*tt«rs wrilten by the Ingenioiu Mr. Adam Martindale " 
">. Lh« fiflli Tvlume of the PhUou'phical Tramactiona, No. 
66., R 2015-17. 1670. 

The rock-salt itself was accidentally found in 1670 in 
({ a coal-pit at Mnrlury near Xortbwith, and was 
'*SaiQ (uuad in 1779 in Cburch Lawtoii. U has also been 
fouod at Whitky on the right bank of the Weaver, about 
n^e miles nurtb of NortLwich, but the principal mines are 
^-Or near Wilton, between Ncrlhwich and Marbury." — 
**O»«l0d'B liistury of CHahire, p, xlvi. 

" It ia stated in the Agricultural Survey o/ C/iakirt, p. 
rf- tbat there were works at Weverham at the Conquest, 
**' there ia no authority for this in Domesday, which 
^y tava tbat there were viL salt-works in wicAe apptn- 
*** to'tliis manor:'— liiid. 

, It is much to be regretted that of the transla- 
tion of the Domesday Book hro volumes only have 
■Ppeared. It was supposed that the whole work 
*otUd extend to ten 4lo. volumes ; but having pub- 
'■•hed a second volume, the translator died Sept. 
J"*» IBIO, and the work was never resumed. 1 have, 
?^^ever, the pleasure to add that his son, the Rev. 
**OJ. Bawdwen, residing at Old Traflbrd, neoi' 
^*Ochc8ter, has possession of his father's nianu- 
f^jpts, and would be glad if the publication of 
J**n» were undertaken by some antiquarian or 

*'k)rical society. Bihliothecab CHEmAii. 

^.^CM; Derivation op (2'"' S. v. iio.) — Is not 
^^ word ou abbreviation of sacchariMrt .' 

T. Lampsat. 

BcfclAI- IN A SiTTIKG PoSITIOM (2°" S. ijC. 513.) 

^^lir. John Gardiner, referred to by W. B. Ca- 
r*"?* as above, erected his tomb, and wrote the 
^H'ripiion thereon some years before his death. 
''Grangers reading the inscription naturally con- 

cluded he was like his predecessor, H Egregious 
iloore," iramoriolised bv Pope — fooJ for worms ; 
whereas he was still following his profession, thttt 
of a worm-doctor, in Norton Folgate, where he 
hod a shop, in the window of wliich were dis- 
played numerous bottles containing specimens of 
tape and other worms, with the names of the per- 
sons who had been tormented by them, and the 
date of their ejection. Finding his practice de- 
clining from the false impression conveyed by his 
cpitaini, he dexterously caused the word intended 
to be intcr]>olatcd, and ' the inscription for a long 
time aflerwards ran as follows : — 
" Dr. John Gardiner's k lost and best bedroom." 

I remember him well ; a stout burly man with 
a lloxen wig : he rode daily into London ou a 
large roan-coloured horse. lie was an eccentric 
man, but I never heard be was buried in a sittinc 
position. U. W. 

Stuabt Adhkbents (2°* S. x. 103.^ — If R.R. 
or others should ever investi|7atc wno were the 
adherents of James II. and his family who left 
England nnd resided with him in France, their 
names to some extent may be collected in the 
existing Registry of DeatliB of the parish of St. 
Grermain. The /oUowing is one extract from that 
registry : — 

" E'tat Civil — Extrait da Regiatre des Actes de \>4dh» 
Anno 1716, Ville de SL Germain en Lave. Le vingt 
quaire Oclotre, mil sept cent seize a e'te inbume daoa 
cettc Eglisc 1« corps de Siettr Alexander Falconer, Gen- 
tillionime Kcossais, Chef de la Pouriere da ICoy d'Ansle- 
terre, de cette paroiase, diSctMe le jour pr^Ment, i^i d en- 
viron qoatre vingt ans. Furent preens, Jean Sunpaon, 
Richard Pemberton, Comeil Uarry, iJacquea Baynes: tooa 
o£cicr< du Ro^ d'Angleterre qui ont aigntf au Re^istre, 
-^— Siinsonl(fU') Pemberton, Barry, Baynea — Biuit prO- 
tre, et Uoollay, prilre." 

Where were the Protestants who were adherents 
buried ? Perhaps some of the followers were also 
buried in adjoining parishes ? T. F. 

Vkbneb and L.uiY Families (2°* S. x. 89.) — 
Your transatlantic corresjwndent will find that 
the former of these families figures in the Baro- 
netage, and a reference to the authorities usually 
consulted will no doubt supply the infomation he 
desires. As to the Lammics, or L'Amys, " one of 
whom tradition says was Bishop of Raphoe," I 
may remark that the succession of Bishops of 
Ilaphoe ia matter of history and record, itol of 
tradition. It docs not appear tbat any person of 
this name ever held the See of Raphoe ; but I find 
that John Lamy, fiLA., vicar -general of the dio- 
cese, was collated on July 11, 1746, to the pre- 
bend of Killymard in that cathedral. (Cotton's 
Fatti Ecc. Ilih.) The name is evidently of French 
extraction, and probably belongs to one of the 
numerous Iluguenot families who i\uitUid Uvw^sa. 
after the revocatvoiv ol \3Rft "Li^xa ^4^ '&«s^«s.*^ mA 



[8»*S.X.Ado. 25.' 

seltleJ in various parts of IrelaniL An intere«Uu{; 
account of ihcso lutelj appeared in the Ultter 
Jouituil of Arclueoh^u, 03 already noticed at 
p. 54. of the current volume of " N. & Q." 

I sbouM like to know wbetber Mk. Verheb 
can assign onj reason to acoouut for the "tradi- 
tioa" wbich be mentions. John Ridtom Gakstin. 


A family named L'Amie resides on Cork Hill, in 
the city of D ublin, a member of which informed 
me it was of Huguenot ostniclion. In a roll (about 
1685) now before mc, containing the names of 
tenants of the Huguenot family of Robillard, 
Seigneurs de Chuuipagno, the name of Jean Lamy 
occurs, who appears to have been resident in the 
seigneury of Bernerc, parish of St. SauTiuien, 
near St. Jenn D'Angely. E. D. B. 

Cleveb (•i'^ S. X. 67.) — I am unable to answer 
the Query whether this word was ever used in the 
time of the Stuarts, in the Amerioaa sense of 
g«tid-nu(urinl. Jovial, good- iempe red, amiable; but 
in the dialect of East Anglia it is pronounced 
claeer, and used in the sense of respectable, well- 
bred, bearing a good character, &c,, but without 
any approach to its proper English meaning of 
dexlrroua, skil/ui, or iiigeHiomt. A person was 
speaking to me once of a certain gentleman in the 
law, and observed that he was a very claver gen- 
tleman ; but she said this without any reference 
to his professional ability, and simnly meant that 
he wEis a reet)c«tabie miu>, and well to do in the 
world. F. C. H. 

KxiTnocK (2** S. ix. 373.) — Keithock lies a 
short distance west from Coupar-Angus, in the 
Perihsbjro division of that parish. The estate at 
one period belonged to the Abbey of Coupar ; and 
it is said that Donald Camiibell, the last of the 
abbots, having five sons, liberally provided for 
them out of the abbey property — gifting to on^ 
the estate of Keithock. 

Tkere was formerly a village with a considerable 
ItopalatioD, but it is aow entirely cxliiwt (,Stat. 

There was recently pointed out to nw an old 
road to tke MiUs of Keithouk, port of whicit, in 
spite of repeated eiTorti^ it has been found impos- 
lible to shut up; the monks having pomeMwi » 
prescriptive right to have the corn ef tha WV* 
rounding districts ground at their mill. 

William Gau,ow;I>t. 



Hawiliooh of Painlittg. The Cermun, Flcmith, and 
l)%iteh SehuoU. Bated on /A« Handliook of Kugler. £it- 
ifeyMg^ ami_^ Ika wtoM part JU-tmtln bjf Dr. Wug«n, 

Dirtrtur cf tie Bnyai Galltry qf Piettira, Ihrlin. 
JHu$tTatioKl. Jn Tuo Parti. (M.^., . 

ThJM is a fresh «iiil valuable ■ na lli« [ 

J?r. >f«rr3r towards Iho Ili^: It h a 

ui 1 iiumenso '>• 

t'l .it ITnntHtaiL 

L' -. . ....-.--,. .,ijch remo<li.l...„ .j.. 

bsiog the work ol' on« who lias earned ibr liiinaelf 
European reputation for hit luiowledg<i of iVrt guMXjj 
but more especially of Uiose muflctr whose ; 
form the subject of the prewiit book. Jjike 
Eastlake's enlarged edition of Kuft'er'a Han 
JfaUam Schooh, tbe present work is pruriieely : 
with woodcuts; and the two books together 
may well be considered es.icnlinl tr;irelling o 
for all who are about to rroj* the Cbonae] fat th 
of studying the inastcc-picce.^ ol paiattog pr 
tbe GaJ'icrics of the Cocliaent. 

Jahrbuch fnr Itomuuitehe und EngUtcht LAttratur 
be$ondertr jltUieerkung con Ferdinand AVolf. Htrao 
von Dr. Adolf Ebert. II. V.nnA ; III. lien. 

We may content ouredvee with fninuiroiin ». 
benefit of KngUsh atudooU, tbe coiji 
Number of this inleresline joumaJ. 
Uistorv of tbe Literature of Catalonia uv L'r. 
the Cnlalonlnn Gi7ii,niu:r iPAinor, in thel*arii 1 
Karl Barttch ; On ibc iocditcd Works of Gnicc 
CoHMt; On the Source* of Bariaam and 
Profeaaor Dicbrecht; imdila from the Br\ 
by Dr. Sachs ; ■ Keview of Ilippeau'i »lUian 
oier's V\t dt Samt TAotuan, aud a Note by Ludi 
land on the SemaH eh la Pour. 

Introduction to the Bittory of E»jiNik Lil 
Robert Demans. (A. & C. Black.) 

We hnd some time since occasion to tpMk in 
favourable tenn:; of a Cl'i*$ Book of JSnsli^ Pnm ' 
Mr. Deinaus. TUo present Kltle rohin"' -i..»". 
)»nd judgment, for, though a brief, it • 
intelligeut sketch of the IVogreas of !>;. 



Kiii>/« MvmiMsiktjL AjnmcA. or Obiemtioiu «o AaalHiS Qtf 

Kmavi'i (nM>T Oaui J EiscsjaiuncAi. Aaeamceaaa «i b«a>- 

VoU. fullo, ur Vol. L ocdjr. 

••• LttMn , tUtinc iMrtleolan uul lontl priat, < 
M(U !• Muttt. Bsu * DAun, PakUtkaas ( 
ttUlClU£&" ISkriMtStrwt. 
PartloiiUMof IVIc«, tbe folloirioc BoakJ to be i 
tbe leatlMtn br vlwm iMr u* rMwini, aaA vboM ■ 
draiiea wt ai'cu bclAT. 

/Vrrir Secitt^. 
TCo. ]. CvLXb^Tiorr gr liALtiD* AjtrKBlon m nu AatH> or I 
No. 0. T»« R»v*.LrTt'-w IP IftiL4>D nr 1***. 
No. 17. Turn NonasMT Gtevwa* or Bliai.&j,«. 

Wuilctl l>r Jr< nn. inVu * SaOrnmm, 19*. Mrauk W C 

.amoiv oOcr Ptmntf ^nlertfj 
» MW MfliMnnblkiaaBtitari 
H«niluw, BiAop gf Petntwraach. teX 
of ttoattt.iii Mr. OnKv—m: tnt Dr. i 
I^Hlk t» Mr. Ovteh. 

W. L. T. nv WhaD h (rTittl to recdrc IJW l}ticrM aAoM Aa. 

.Ituircrt ta otfxr OTrrwiwMfcali m Mr MB*, 
_*llh — *»» ^mnmt" f» pMnlitdat mamm an VtUi 

Mar«SiiMal •• \t».*A, wtaM mo* to naJ <« "■ 9Hf <M 
niMMr 0/ MiBu. Bdi, *«■ IkioT^m, Pi^a ,%•*•••; ••Cl •> « 

t^i.7L Ssrr. 1. 'M.] 




N«. 844.— CONTENTS. 


.NOTK.S : — Jouph Honsbav. Buhop of PeUabotough, 101 

— MatlicrnalH-al lliilitjirrnniiv. li.-J — Tlip '• RnnieiiiTier" of 
CliarU-- ' IM — 

lonl In , lb.— 

Curioui " 1, 186. 

lirKOS NorE«: — Tlic F»thur of Mr. CwcrcUry Micholaa— 
Errors aiul Uitni-cpauoica in Ilnoks on the Pccntse— 
Mmic-.Y V.^iuc — T'j Uartlen AVood ror ShipliuildiDr — 
(toribmidl, 166. 

QrERIES. — Chiiaren'* Drama, 1«8 — The " Suffolk Mer- 
eaty" — A Leicester Ball TicVi-l — Polleni — Authorahip 
of "A IVcparntMii to U\c Unly Communion"— Salvrntor 
K-'va — a Titl<— l(vuinoli)«i;y — The Foar Oeontn: 
<''i - lUoophUiiaGa) M.D.: WllUamGv. MJ6.— 

I ' r a Priv&to Burial Ground — Badgw of 

K' ^ — Pauage ill Uemoathenea — Comprimbre 

Inlieai. M liiTi:? — "Familiar EpiiitU's to Frederick Jonon, 
Biq^" kr.— Wills — Parrondiru' — Biblo by Barker dated 
Um — MS. W Hale's " Plea* of llic (.'rowD/' liw. 

QviUBH WITH AicawBBa i — XBp1r« founded on Eafts — 
Psftrait of Joba Buuysa— "The Battle of Ue^tliam" — 

Ooodwin'»(JoIui) 'Writiiip— Astir — Slunir Nomem-lature 

tePLtES : — Bolcyii and Haiumoiul Fomlllci!, 17! — The 
Madldnbl Virtues uf Spidera' Vi'uh, m— Sigua at Honk- 
'■ , Cheshire, I7:i — A Faritlcatur.Y lYccodont— Burnet's 
- MariiUid Due dc Berwick — 
■ nf " Pnrtectar Somerset," or of 
— Sir John Gayer — Rid« «. 
J'-vuit — Magnetic Declination 
III — Scson fkmily — Centcoarlaniiini 
^.-rmoiu, *c„I73. 

French Books. 

SS. — li-.Ueft II. 


— Ooniij 

Monthly Ku 





In (I note on Wood's AUtenw (ili. 1196, eil. 
Bliss). Baker reiera to his MS. '26. p,371. for " A 
j^c account of Bisliop Hensbaw." 
■jAj I believe that ibis account (probably the 
e lh«t is contained in Kennett's collections, 
kXilUKl. 986. fo. 216.) Las never been printeO, 
lIlBiicw edition of the Athenif Is in prepara* 
J— •» it seems worth while to seek a place for it 
~ ** N. & Q." 1 httvc abo gleaned n few Jctnils 
*o«ti another voliune of the Baker MSS. 

f-** Dec 37. IC-t.^. Upon the bumble petition of ibe 
I j^|*'*'*0 <''' T''- Ilmthaic, from whomc the Rectories of 
! z j^^ atotf Ar Ea^ Lmnnt, in the County of Sussex, are 
ig**W>td ; It i( or<lered that the >■■ Children shall have 
1^ ftill value of the Cah part of one of the s<> Kectorlet^ 
^^ItarsM fint duductad, fur their maintenaoce, iinlMi 
5^*4 cause be slitweu to the contrarv, on j* 19"' day of 
^luT* B"'> ''' ^^ quarterly payd by such persons to 
-.^y^w th« t<* Rectories are lequestre'd. the s** children 
V^*^g all ilue obedience to the B<> Seqotstration." — 
^**«r ITS. S7. 407. 

, 1^ 1046. Where 08 the Rectory of the pariah 

Vt St»dham, in Iho County of Sussex, is & 

J»ih iicoii*slred by order of this Committee fiom 

the use of John Baker, a godly and or- 

,j^, '.vbo hatb silbence left the same. It is 

'"Kfr,j_. 10 «.,mc other)." —Ibid. pp. 488, 484. 

■IqL 10. IC47. Where.i8 the Kectvn- of the Poiiah 

Chorch of Ifn/tliott, in theC^unty of •eqaeetniAl 
from Dr. lUmhaw (o the use of Mr. Small wood, ivlio halb] 
i sitbence Iclt the smne & is setled in the Church of lUrd-| 
ford in the «■> connt^-. It is orJercd that the 8'' Rectory 
shall from henceforth stand seonestred to the use of 
Richard tiurrctt, a godly * orthodox Divine." —iWrf. 

It is scarcely necessary to sov that these lordly 
decrees are tnken from The Bookg of the Coftk- 
mitte for plnndred MiniMtem, of which Baker "ives 
large portions, and which ought to be printed en- 

" Josephus Dcnshaw, S. T. P. Dccanus Eccl. Cicestr. 
rite in Epllm alectus 16. Apr. 1603, Installatus die i9.i 
Mail per MagrQm. JobCm, llotvorth Decani Procuratorem 
et primum Prebendar." — 

" March 9. 167k. D'. Henshnw, Bp. of Peterborough 
atloodinK on the Parliament (w«i» opened March C ), w,ia 
seen at Momlng Prayers at u'eslmiustcr Abbey, & died 
suddenly that night."— /Airf. pp. 319, 350. 

Extracted from " Particulars conceritiug tbe 
Church of Peterborough, &c. from MSS. of the 
R'. Rev*. White, L*. B^. of Pctrbr." 

See farther respecting Ileiishavr, Walker's Suf' 
feringt, ii. 13. ; Kenuett's Jicgitier and Chron. 
234. 4«1. 841.; Kenuett's Complete Hist. (ed. 2.), 
iii. 359. (about his sudden death) ; Guntou's , 
Peterb. Cathedr. On the King's birthday, May 
29. 1669, Pepvs; heard " the Bishop of Peter- 
borough preach, but dully ; but a good anlbera 
of Peliam's." 

" Aa Account of Bp. Henshaw by Wh[tle Keouett^ 
Ld. Bp. of Peterborough. 

" It cost me some time and trouble before I found out 
PhiUp Henahavr, Eso*., son of a nephew of Dp. Ilenshaw, 
who now (Djoys the Up. 'a estate in Sosaax, who wrote me 
word that the Bp. was second son of Thomas Hensbaw, 
Sollicltor-Gcaerol in Ireland, bom, a9 he supposes, at 
Sountiojf • ia Sussex, where most of the s* SoUicitor's 
children were boni, his Family residing there. His 
Mother was only Daughter to one Wistow, chief Sur^eoa 
to Queen Elic. The Bp. luarried orie of the family of the 
Mays of Bawmars nigh Chichester, She was Auut to the 
present [Sent. 2. l7Ui] S'. Thomas Hay, by whorae ha 
had two children, one Son Sc a Uauehter. IJis Son mar- 
ried S*. Harafrey Gore's Sister of Ilcrtfordnhire, & dial 
without Issue. His DanKtater married S' Andrew Racket, 
Bp. Ilarket's Son, and led onely a Daughter, manned to- 
one Wbithall in Shropshire, but what Issue we know not. 
Ho died at bin Lodging in James Street, Corent Gard«n, 
March 0. 1C78 : bring on a Sunday, & had been twice at 
the Cbappell in White-EIall that day. He was buried at 
Larant in Snssex, where his Wife and Son were interred 
before, lliere is no Monument, but I do desi|^'n to put 
one up fl transcribe M'. Ilenshaw's Letter), he having 
been so aind to my Father, who was his eldest Brothers 

" As to his Education, be was put to the Charter Uoas& 
School, where he & his two Brothers were the three Brat 
Scholars admitted on the Foundation by Sutton himself, 
who was their nigh Kelalion. My Uncle says, be doe» 
not know what College be was of in Oxford, before ha 
waa Follow of i\l\ Soul*. He was aftenviucla Paraon of 
Lavant, Chaplain to the D. of Dock, who was murdered 
^ Felton i afterwards in Eaile with li. Ch. 2*'. for several 




[2"* 8.; 

year*, daiiag yt'^ lime hii Children were brought up & 
kept by my Grandfather, who WM the Dp.'a Brother, 
Tho. HeDshaw of Uilliugshurat in Sussex. At the Re- 
storation he (lid m«nv services to the Church of Chiches- 
ter, in setting the nd'airt of it : was made Dean, thence 
promoted to the Sea of Peterborough. 

" I have given yon the whole Letter, that if the Ori- 
ginal fail, you maj' have this true Copv of it 

" Wh. PETBitBeB."' (yA«i26. 371.) 

J. E. B. Matob. 

St. John's Collesci Cambridge. 


(2"' S. ix. 339. 449.) 

Professor De Moegan "u no doubt correct both 
as to tbe paging; and the passage, and the nbbre- 
vi&tiun (Gem. tor GeminuB) must be iiscribed to 
me ami not to Barociua. I nm glad to have called 
his attention to tLe marginal reference. 

London, fiftccii-sevcntyfour. REConnE, Robert, 'The 
pathewaie to Icnowledge, containyng the first principles 
of Geometrie, as (hei maie moste aptlj- bee applied vuto 
practise, bothe for vse of instnimentes Ooometricall, and 
Astronomicall : and also for proiection of plattoi ia euery 
kinde, and therefore mucbe necessoric for all sortes of 

Geometries verdict e. 
All frtMhtJiMe tDiltt* by nu are filed. 
All ffrtiue dull willei taiii/ie me eriled : 
Though no mannej witte rtjtcl will I, 
yet at thei bee, I Ktii them trie. 
Quarto. " An lipislle to the Singes M." (Edvrard VI) 
which foliowB other prefatory matter is dated " At Lon- 
don, the xxriij. dale of Jannuarie. M.D.LI." 

TLe work concludes with " Imprinted nt Lon- 
don, by Ihon Ilai'rison. Anno Domini. 1574." 

My copy contains the two following niciaoranda : 
"This Robert Recorde was tbc first EnglisL wri- 
ter on Algebra — flourished about 1550" and 
"The first Edition of liiia Work anpeared in the 
year 1551, and was the first on beoinetry ever 
printed in English. See Percy Anecdotes on 
Science p. 113 ". On one of its fly-lenves is writ- 
ten the name "Fraunces Englefeilde" in on an- 
cient handwriting, and on the same page, and 
apparently in the same hand and ink, are gorac 
detached pieces of calculation, which seem to be 
division by the old Italian process of " the galley," 
or by tliat which Peacock called the "scratch" 
method, with a verification in one case by mtilti- 
plication. On the same page another entry in- 
forms us that "John Shurman of Denton owe 
This Book 1726." On the back of this leaf the 
relations "Diameter 14iCercil.mferentia 44 Area 
cereuli 154 Superficies sphere 616 Gibbositas 
spher 14371 " ore written, apparently in the " En- 
glefeilde" handwriting. My copy is in the same 
parchment cover with 

London, fifleen-seventyone. Diooas, Leoiurd [Gen- 
tleman, lately finished by lliomaa Dioobs hia sonne. ] 
'A Gwmelnci} P/actise, aaaied Pantometria, dinidca 

into three Boekea, Longimetra, Planiinelra and 
metria, containing Ruled manifolds for mensuratic 
Lines, Superficies and SoHdes]: with sundry a 
conclusions both by instrument and without, and 
Perspective glasses, to set forth the true <ieacri| 
exact plat of an whole Re((ion: framed by . . 
bathe also thenniato adioyned a Matbematicall 
of the fiue rcg^ularo PIntonicall bodies, and thei 
morphosis or transforninlion into (lue otlner cquila 
forme soUdes Geometricall, of his ownc inuontion, I 
not mentioned of by any (jeoroetritians. Impri 
London by Henrie Byunemaa, Anno lo71.' Qiioi 

This work commences with " The Epti! 
Thomas Dicges to Sir Nicolas Bacon "! 
Lord keper '&c., at the end of which (and oi 
is the M.S. memoranaum "Leonard Die 
Father of Thomas was famous for Lia J 
matical learning & died about 1574. The 
son of Tbomas was also very learned : he i 
Dudley Digges, & was Master of the Rolls 1 
1. died about 1639." This, as well as the if 
responding memorandums in my copy of the 
wate, was probably made by the late Mr. 
Ayton, a former possessor of the volum 
which both works are bound, or tackc<l to| 
This binding must have taken place ver 
ago, for on the outer fly leaf of the volume 
some figures or references apparently in tl 
glefeilde handwriting ; and the name " Am 
ton " which, in an old hand, is written on tl 
page of the Pathewaie is subscribed, on t)i 
of leaf IL iv. of the Pantometria, to a bri 
sportive ode addressed to "John Chapmu 
in the handwriting of its subscriber. Fr 
ode itself I infer that it was written in the 
of February, and from a scrawl on the 0| 
poge (J) I conjecture that it was written ii 
On another page (the back of T. iv.) in a 
hand " James Homer (?) de Shottisham in 
tatu Nor .... (?) 1^97 " has given a refen 
something " in Euclid's Elements of Geon 
But the book, which seems to have been 

Cosscssion of the Sharman's in I72G, had pr 
een so for some time for the name " John 
man of Dentoo" is written on the back of tl 
B b. iv in an old hand, not unlike that of 
Skelton." "The Preface to the Reader" 
follows " ITie Epistle " is by Thomas Digg« 
Some of the following works arc rare, 
dates of those wliich are not so will be lu 
fixing the positions of the others. The 
searcnes " of Mr. Jerrard have, I belicrt 
been out of print. 

lAimiini, sixtceu-fiftyninc. BAanow, la. ' Eudii 
mentorum libri xr. breviter dcmonatrali, o[ters 1 
row, Cantabrigicnd*, Coll. Trin. Soc. K^mp^ 
A»vic^f tltrif ai ^«9i} >i«A<cai iwiffr ttms*. HIBROCL 
dini, Excudebat R. Daniel, Inipensis Guil. Xeald 
liopolic Cantabrig. M.D.CLIX' Octavo (small) 

IMy copy was formerly the property W^ 
Professor T. S. Davies. It has the initia! 


S>«fl.X.8srT. 1. '60.] 




S" (or D) and die name "Bloyet" on its title- 
page. The initials probably appertain to the 

Z^ikAm, seventpeTi-tJurtyscvcn. Xkwtox, liasc. 'A 
TreatiM of the MeOiod of Fluxiotia mid Infinite Series, 
iritbitj Application to the Geonu-lry of Curve Lines. Bj' 
Sir Imc Newton, Kl, TrmsUted from the Latin Origi- 
ital not vet published. Deaigncd by tbe Author for the 
nae of Learners. Hac cia insUletidum eil. Lomlon, 
Printed for T. Woodman at Camden's Ilcail in Xe>v 
Round Court in tbe Strand ; and J. Millan next to Will'a 
Coiftf House at the Entrance into Scotland Yard, 
MDCCXXXVMl' Oetaro. 190 + xvi. pagea. 

This seems to be a second 'or other edition 
of a work which Prof. Db Mobgak (Phil. Mag. 
for Nov. 1852, p. 323) calls "The Method of 
FbLxioHt, translnted by Colson Irom Newton s 
Latin, and publish*! in 1736, written, it is sup- 
posed, at some time in the period 1671-1676," For 
tiie passage " But whereas o is supposed to be in- 
definitely little, that it may represent the mo- 
ments of quantites, consequently the terras that 
are multiplied by it, will be nothing in respect of 
the rest:" whioii I find at p. 33 of tlie work now 
before me corresponds in substance •with that cited 

S' Mr. De Morgan (ubi sup.) as from p. 25 of 
e work he mentions as translated by Colson. 
The n«me of Colson does not, that I am aware of, 
appear in the work itself, but in tbe opening of 
toe Pjcface it is said to be " the genuine Ofl'spring 
(in nu En<»!i«h Dress) of tbe late Sir Isaac New- 
*w"and Prof De Mohgan (ibid.) says " There 
U no doubt this work is Newton's : There is no 
'|*dica(ion to Jones in my edition or copy which 
„**^ the M.S. inscriptions " Ex libris Johannis 
^«llins " and " John King, 34 Cannon Street, 

/^«»m, MTenteen-seventynine. Bkzoct. 'Theorie 
2^» de* ^nations nlg^briqnes ; Par M. Btfzout,' 
'**»*i, iJ I ♦ xxvitj pages. 

*his is his great work on elimination. 

jj*^7ii, eigbteen-lwelve. Wnoxsai, flot'no. ' Kesolu- 
Q?* G^a^rale des Equatlon<i de tuus los degr& ; Par . . . 
^^*w a U Pologne, ancietine patrie de I'auteur.' Quarto. 

. -Tliix work, which at one time caused some C3c- 
"^*>)ent in the matberaatical world, is comprised 

*>xieen pages. 
n, , Y ^w^fow. eighteen-thirtecn. LocKiunr, Jamcu. 'A 
JzJ^od rf approximating towards the roots of cubic equa- 
rj*^ belonging to the irreducible case.' Quarto (in slrict- 
^**» thbugh reacmbliog a large ixtnvo'). 87 pages. 

I^^r. Lockhart was the author of many works 
■"*» papers on equations and continued his labori- 
**** calculations to a rerv advanced period of life. 
^^ the age of eighty-seven he was " still prose- 
C^**nghi8 scientific researches with the same ardour 
"*t animated his early years," (J. E. Young, On 
lAe Gen. Priuc. of Aiml., p. 38). 

'' i)-fourte«n, GAP.xiF.n, J.-(5. 'AnalyscAl- 

I suite a la premifcre section dc I'Afgobre ; 
oiidun, revue ct considc'rablement augment^ 
r«t . . , ' Cklam. 6G8 * xvj pages. 


London, eighteen-seventeen. Gompebtz, Benjamin. 
' The Principles and Application of Imaginnrj' Quantities, 
Book I ; to which are added some ob.wrvations on Fo- 
risms; being the first of a scries of original tracts on 
Tarioos parts of the Mathematics.' Qiarln. 85 pages. 

London, eighteen-eightcen ...'... Book II ; derived 
from a particular case of functioniil projection^; being ttia 
second &c. . . .' Quartn. 44 pages. 

/.oiu/oih eighteen (Ifly. tio.MrKitTZ, Benjamin. 'Hints 
on Porisms, in a letter to T. 8. Dsvies. Esq. F.R.S, F.S.A., 
&c. with a Scholium not contained in Iho letter. Being 
a sequel to tbe two TracU uu 'loiaginary Quantities' 
published in 1817 and IttlS, as a partial development of 
views therein noticed. Being N". 111. —of Original 
Tracts.' Quitrlo. iv + 31 pages. 

io»do«, eifihteon-twenty. N[( HOLSOS, Pfeter], 'Es- 
say on Involution and i'A'olution; Particukrly applied 
to the Operation of Extracting the roots of etiuations and 
nambers, according to a process entirely arithmetical; 
Superwdiog by its greater Simplicity, Swiftness, and Ke- 
gtilnrity, everv oIIrt Method that has yet been attempted. 
.\ New Edition with a Postscript, Vindicating the claims 
of the Author in the maturing and bringing the Subjoct 
to Perfection ; and Showing the vast .Su[)eriority of hia 
Demonstrations and Methods to those which Mr. Hol- 
dretl has published since the first Kdition of this Essay. 
Together with an Appendix on Kigunte Numbers and 
Arithmetical E<]uivalenl8 ; The whole being adapted to 
the skilful analyst and export aritbmeticinn.' Oclaro. 
62 + sxvi pages. 

The " Introduction " as well as the Postscript 
contains viihmblc matter, bearing upon the his- 
tory of what is now known as "Horner's Pro- 

/.oMrfoii, eighteen -twenty three. BicK, John, ofQuean'a 
College, Cambridge. ' A Kew, General, and Algebraical 
Solution of the Uigher Orders of Equations ; willi solu- 
tions to the tenth degree inclusive.' Ortai>o. 95 + xiL 

The solution is by an application of the Dio- 
phantine Analysis. 

Fan/, eighteen-twentysix. Laqranoe, J.-L. 'Traitd 
de la R^lution des E'qnitiona Numi'riqoes de tons les 
degr^ avec des notes snr plnaieors points de la thAirie 
des equations algdbrlqucs ; Troisibme edition, conforme a 
celle d« 1808, «t pri^^ d'nne Analyse de I'Ouvrage, pat 
M. PoursoT.' Q«ar/o. xxviij +815 pages. 

Bri^ol, eigbtaen-thirtytwo. Jerraiu>, Geo. B. (A-B>. 
' Mathematical Beieaicbea, Part tbe First, By ..." Oc- 
laro. 34 + vi pages. 

Brhtnl, eighteen-thirtyfour ...'... Part the Second, 
By . . .' Octavo; to p. "B. 

BtUtol, eighteen-thirtyflvB ...'... Part the Third. 
By . . .' Octavo ; to p. 90. 

These Parts were published at Bristol by " Wil- 
liam Strong, Clare Street; to be had of Loogman 
and Co. London." TJiere is also a " Supplement 
to Part Ibe Third," without a title page, dated 
Bristol, July 18:15 (to p. lU), and a "Continua- 
tion of Supplement to Part the Third " without 
either date or title page (to p. 130). 

Bristol, eighteon-thirtythree. A FniEXD of the Bius- 
TOL lOLUiOE. 'A Reply to an Article in No. 7, of tha 
Bath and Bristol Magarine, entitled A Review of " Ma- 
thematical Kesearches, Part the First, by G. B. Jerrard, 
B.A " '. Ocfuro. 37 pagas. 

The form andmoAft o? '^>)fe\\t».'Cv3^ ^^^ <a^«' **™^ 




AS ibat of llie ' Rcseiirclies.' The appearance of 
'Part the First' of 3Ir. Jerrnnl'i! ' Rcseflrcbca ' 
gave me to an animated controversy of which the 
pages of the Bristol Mercury and Uristol Mirror 
(Nov. 7tli and 20th 1 833, &c.) contain some re- 
cord. A »eply to the " Keply " appeared in No. 
IX. of the Magazine. Mr. Jerrard's principal 
diacoveries .ire embraced in h'n recent 'Essay' 
&c. (Taylor and Francis.) 

Cambridge, eightwD-lhirtTfir*. STE\iacso», R. 'K 
TreatuQ od the Natnrc And Properties of Aljcebraic Equa- 
tions. By .... Second Edition.' Oriavo. lH -r iv rBfrrt. 

Cimftr/cl'^.cightten-lliirlygeven. HvMBtt«,J. 'ATrea- 
tiM on tbe Theory of Algebraicnl Eqnntions.' Oetavo. I'JO 
■t-sii riig««, 

Oybret, ei<»htecn-thirtv«ght. Lotkhart. .Jamc«. 
'Itesolalion of Eqn.-itioiu.' . . .'Part tbe Firtt.' Qwirto. 
48 + vi pagej. 

Lemaon, eighteen tbirtynine. RriRi*BT. Robert. "A 
Treatise on the Tlieorv of Alpebrnlciil Equations.' Oclar/t. 
This formj pRrt of the L. C K. 171 + xii p«Ke«. 

XiOiirfun, eiglitccn-rortytwo. Wedole, Tbomai. ' Xetr, 
Simple, and General Method of Solving Komericol Equa- 
tions of aU Orders.' Qnario. 3G + Iv pa^ea. 

This important method is different from Hor- 

Leipsick, (by Romberg.) and I^trndm, (by Williams 
and Norgste.), eit'litt'en-fortyfive. Voout,, aJ F., Matbe- nl I>eipztclc. * T!ic Diieovcry of a Ueneral lie- 
•oJation all «up«ri«r finite Equations of every numerical 
both algebraick and Iran.icendcnt form.' Quarto (rejcm- 
bling a large octero). S8 pagts. 

Lomhn', ei||^teen-fort\-nioe. R uniRRPoais William. 
* TheComplete Solntion of Numerical lilquationi: inyrbich 
by one nnifomn process, the ima^RErr at well as the real 
:"o«t§ are easily determined.' Qanrfo. ?8 + i pages, with a 
■aumdqmenul litbograpbcd lly-sheet. 

Z^a'/txa, elghteon-fittj. Lockiiart, Jaines. 'The Na- 
ture of the Itoots of Numerical Equations Oetaro. S0 + 
iv. pages. 

Lonitvu, eighteen- fifty eiijlit. JcnRARn. G. B. *An 
Eaaar on the Resolaiion of Eqnationi. In Two Parta 
Part 1." Ortam. C4 paijes. 

London, eighteen-fiftynioe ....'.... Part II.' Oe- 
tarn; to p. *.'. 

Parit, eight een-Hftynine. HEr.MrrR [Cl>.] 'Siir la 
Tb^orie des E'qaationa Mudnlaires et la Resolution de 
riTqiution du CJinquiroe Degre,' Quario, vii + 08 pa|;ea. 

The date &c. of tbe second edition of ProfeMor 
J, I\. Young's ''Theory und Solution of Alge- 
braical Equations " is Limdoii, 1843. 

Jamks Cockle, M.A. &c. 
-I Pump Court, Tample. 

We put Ibrward the following observations on 
a very interesting point in English history. There 
it a little account repented m .ill our histories, 
and it is impressed on the mind with all the greater 
<Iistinctness that it comes in the closing scene of 
King Charles's iiiiforlmmto rei^. We are all 
.^aiiiar with some pnrticular words, ^mphasited 

with the solcnin reminder " Bcmeml 
by the King on the icaflbld ' ' ^ 'hi 
ting Jlousf, Whittlinll, on i' 
January, 1648, Dishop Ji. s- 
I Bitihoi) Juxon," ."is he was called — who H 
I the King with a pious care, and who wai | 
in tcirs during the whole sad scene, w, 
person to whom this solemn and all'itin 
injunction to "Remember" was made. 1 
dcntly bore reference to something whk 
previously passe<l between him and the 
Impressed by the King's manner when I 
pronouncing the word, and suspicieii'* of wl 
communication should be — alao actii.itcd bj 
arousing private curiosity in<le[)endently { 
political significance to be attached to it 
officers on duty, in the first inr^l. 
Commissioners of the Commons 
slated on Bishop Juxon declaring- wumi il 
partment wa.«, which the King made, tl^ 
readers of English History know, only t< 
questioners that the King's last words were 
08 a message t<i his son, and that the privatt 
munication, and the word " Remember " en( 
it, were only to enjoin forgircnesa of his en 
by his son, in the future time. Tlioso wl) 
questioned Juxon seem to have been »a 
with this ans^ver. And from that time unl 
present it has been as.«umed as a fact that ni 
farther lay under this, which was, howevei 
lainlr the most solemn adjuration of tbe ] 
We have often wondered that the occurren 
e.xcited so little attention, since we regal 
explanation of Bishop Juxon as very uusn 
tory, and as one the readiest occurring tn I 
the instant, only intended to divert the ait< 
and to elude the suspicion, of the King's ci 
at the time. 

It is to be observed that this solemn 
member" was the last word said by thei 
when his mind was wholly engrossed with 
of another world, and when, ns it were* I 
event proved, he was leaving a wonderful | 
of his knowledge by divine insight of ( 
which were desigtied by Providence to 
really about in the future. The words < 
hiiitorian arc : " Charles, having taken a 
cloak, delivered his ' George' to the prclata 
nouncing the word " Remember I " In that 
moment — the last opportunity for any ft 
dealing on earth — when the unfortunate CI 
was literally bidding adieu to the world, 
standing in the presence of the .\ngel of £ 
with, as it were, the light of tiie other wort 
closing upon his figure, he almost seeming to 
ceased to have aught to do with thla sts 
things, it is not likely — nor, in the nata 
probabilities, is it to be believed — that hf 
merely giving utterance to a commr 
pression of general, uncxalted furgivcna 

aX.8«T. LW.] 



likely to bavc been niAde before — much be- 
— but ccrtninly not then. We tbink that wo 
•e rijibt in cunduJing that the worl<l has coin- 
ed in a too hasty and linseorchlng opinion re- 
rding this ItLst scene of the Kinz, and that 
ITS!) inlioitcly more un<li;r t^is impartment 
eithei' the iJu.spiL'ions of the time aeem to 
conceived^ or uiodorn ideas ever to have 
ipccnUted upon. The eiTect produced, on the 
wflb ld, on the witnesses of the execution, by this 
t injunction, is proven by the pains which 
immediatcty taken to find out the meaning. 
e hiva reason to conclude that Bishop Juxon 
vu not only inqiiirod of, concernin>r it, on the 
"lid, after the tragedy of the King's eicceutton 
been consummated, but that be was sent for 
1»'Tfhitcliall, to be questioned by Cromwell and 
il« King's Judges. Great things — extraordinary 
— wonderful thin;^ — were in Chai'les's 
after the excitenicuts of his trial and the 
iUe result in condemnation. What should bo 
iIm state of n man's mind, under such circum* 
itaoces, we can only conceive. In tbi.s tumult of 
WW nnsations, and in the intense and preter- 
"•tWtl stretch and B<;ony of his mind, it is very 
pnaible tbnt he might hare achieved, in the state 
"( Oflliatioo well known to those who are con- 
»wixot with the pheitotnena (during paroxysms) of 
^Uinrojrant " far-seeing," to a real, prophetic con- 
viction of things to happen after him, and of the 
-'*rtomtion of monarchy in England, and of the 
>(<aiament — little as it seemed likely then — of 

t^ >0n to the throne. This was a vision in the 
'■M* that we understand it of saints. Bishop 
<fwm, who knew very well to what the King's 
"■plMtic word "Jleraember" referred, could not 
'» (nything else than conce;il the real and tJie 
j'^'igerous meaning under an evasive explanation, 
bol one which would very readily pass with those 
jjj't impressed with the solemnity and sadness of 
'■« whole scene. But, chiefcst of all in proof of 
joese convictions regarding this interesting and 
lutherto unexplained matter, is the declaration 

Ifaat Inch a vision — or supernatural, prophetic 
JjjJ'lpnent — was really expuriencod by the King, 

" After King- Churles the First was condemned, he did 
tell Colonel Toinlinsou Ihiil ho ' believed the Kngliih Mo- 
unrcliywis now at an end.' About liilf on hour wter, with 
a radiant couatenanea, and as it' with a prctematarally 
assured manaer, be affirmed to ihe Colonel, poaittvel/. 
that his son sbuuJd nign altar liitn. This iaformatioD I 
had Trom Fabian Phillips, Esq., of the luner Tempis, wUu 
bad the bejt authority for Iha truth of iL I forgot whether 
Mr. Phillips, who wu under some reserve, named to me 
the particular person. Dnt I inspect that It was Colonel 
Tomliason kimseir." 

This divination it ■was that probably "converted" 
Colonel Tomlinaon. H.A.RaK.vvE Jexkixos. 


J*e liopp, in future accounts of King Charles the 
r^|i 'hat this present little history of a doubtful 
™!_iinport.Tnt passage will fiud its proper room. 

v'olonel Tomlinson commanded the regiment of 
'**>lry on guard at the execution. They are 
*Wa in a picture made of NVhitehall at the time, 
u) tlie histories Colonel Tomlinson is aaid to have 
^*»n " converted " at the beheading of the King. 
C«uld this "conversion" consist in his belief of a 
miracle in the King's assurance ? 

John Aubrey, Esq.,, under the date of 
l(>S>6, in the last, and revised, and most complete 
ei'illion of his Mincrllanieif, — that, in fact, which, 
te b«licve, WHS publi«li>Hl after lus death — states, 
It iilCt within his precise knowledge, that : — 


The following verse* I had from one of my aunts, 
who was a great niece of Philip M'.'tcalfe, formerly 
of llawstead, Suffolk, and Hill Street, Berkeley 
Square, and mentioned in Boswell's Li/e of fuhn- 
son. The verses are stated to be by Boswell, and, 
if hitherto unpublished, may be thought worth re- 

" I'almeria we find will b« wedded at latt. 
The Priest and the Lawyer will tye the knot fast i 
My gallant Lord Iiichiq'iiia )itr coastant Man 
She prefers on a ui^e, niid a generous plan. 
Each unfortunate Rival who pat4 in bis claim 
Feels bamboozled, and bit by the opulent Dame. 
Says BoEzy, ' Of Arroganeepray don't accuse me, 
Dut I thought tijat no Woniim alive couM refuse uie.' 
Says Sir Kit*, ' I doa't luiow how thiii Eirl has uji. 

msak'd her, 
I see she's not mine, yet I think I onoe aik'd her.' 
Ssrs Uattt. * I'm concem'd on the public account. 
That Ireland shon'd drain us to such an amount' 
Says the elej^ant, learn'il, and nice Critic Malone, 
'With the t'olio I grunt, willi the Qunito I groan.' 
Says little Ned Gwetkin, ' upon my salvatioa, 
I've reckonM her mine, as a sure speculation.' 
Says Lawry t. ' 'tis sure a ridicnloui cbang«.' 
Says Blaggy §, ' I own the transaction is (traoge,' 
' Ye Boobies,' crioa Metty | , • pniy wliat do vou mean. 
Han't you Eyes, can't a Star nml n Itibbon be seen? 
Call on me any morning, and each tnUo & Niece, 
Fine, pleasant good Girl?, and Ten Thousand a piece.' " 

AV*.LTeii C. MrrcALFK. 

Dante, Purgaiorio, Canto xxxui. line 43. : — 

" Without an heir the eagle not for are, 
Shall bo, &c 

Whorein, One— stamped five Inindrcd, ten and five, — 
Angel of God — shall slav ihe thievlBh dame. 
Her giant partner too of lift deprive." 


" Nel quale an, cinqnecento, diece e cinque." 

• Sir Christopher Hawkins. 

t Mr. Ban, Commissioner of the Public Acconnts. 

iDr. Lawrence. ^ Dr. Blagdon. 

P. Metcalft, Fm\., 51.P. 


[8"* 8. X Sept. I. 

In tbe note to Mr. Wright's translation, he 
says : — 

•* Some explain thig text thus: five bnndretl, D; ten, 
X; five, V; Mvinff that lit thin time will come a lender 
flhix) f»nt bjr'Hcuven, wlio will reduce nil the world to 
God. Others say an emperor waa intended," &c. 

Now it should be reiuembcred that when the 
lines were written, tbe empire was contested (in 
1314) between ?>ederick III. of Austria nnd 
Louis lY. of Bavaria; and Louis was, in 1322, 
elected. Take the Greek numeral letters, and the 
reader will get the name of Louis ; and with the 
name, the interpretation of the verses : — 
„ . . - . . 1 

\ SO 

i> 400 

8 . . . , . 4 


K _20 


"A Ludvik" [a Aufwif], as the Germans wrote 
the nnrae, is evidently the person alluded to, and 
thus a simple interpretation is given to one of the 
most contested passages of Dante. It is iropossi- 
bie the agreement of the numbers mentioned with 
the Greek numerals can be accidental. It is true 
few persons could bare known Greek numerals 
when Dante u!<ed Iheni, but the ignorance which 
prevailed respecting them created the mj-stery of 
the passage. There is evidence that Dniite had 
turned his attention to the study of Greek. One 
objection to the interpretation may be, that one 
(un) is added to the live [cinque] ; but having 
summed up the Greek numerals, the poet michi 
eastlv have neglected the exact manner in which 
he obtained the total number, and thinking of the 
name, make " un" n repetition. 

William Faix;onbb. 



On my last visit to the ruins of Millom 
Castle, about half a mile fi-om the estuary of the 
Duddou, I observed (what li:id on several pre- 
vious visits escaped my notice) a curious smoke- 
Tent in the room which had evidently been the 
great hall, and which is entered from the small 
court by a doorway surmounted by a beautiful 
flamboyant arch. This vent is a hole of n shape 
nearly elliptical, the vertical axis measuring 
perhaps a foot, and the horizontfti one about eight 
inches (I speak from guess), cut through the 
wall, which is there some five feet thick, at an 
inclination of about 30" to the horizon. This hole 
was so very much like what I have sometimes 
«een in a village church, made to carry outside 

nn iron tnbe passing from a stove, and then for 
ing a chimney, that I at tirst fancier! this 
have been an early instance of this more us 
than ornamental contrivance. On exominiiig 
outside, however, I found sufficient proof thnt 
was not the case. The hole itself has evii" 
been the whole and sole chimney, as is proved I 
its being there bordered by a frame of cut »t< 
surmounted by an ornamental finish (I fear 
architectural nomenclntnre is very imperfect), j 
evidently of the same dale with the building its 
Do any of the numerous readers of " N. & < 
know of any similar instance 'f Perhaps some] 
them may wish to examine for themselves 
ancient sraoke-vcnt, which I have attempted.! 
describe. If so, I think they will thank me ' 
pointing out the best way to get to the spot, 
the intending visitor will take a tourist ticket^ 
Ck)niston, such os are issued at ilif orln,' 
stations of the London and North \^ 
Great Northern and the Midland Rail. 
able for a calendar month, nt very moderate Is 
he will find that he is at liberty to stop on.l 
way at any of the stations between Carnforth 
Coniston, and afterwards resume hi* journey^ 
his pleasure. Let him then stop at Foxfiehl 
tion, and ask for a ticket for Green Road. Th 
he will be directed to the Green, where he 
find an unpretending but very clean nnd cc 
fortiible village inn. From this he can proceed i 
a very good road, affording views of most picttj 
csipie and varied scenery, the luke mount ' 
Scawfell, the Old Man, High Street, Hill 
&c. behind, the optn sea in front, tlie Dud^ 
estuary on the left, and Black Comb on the rij 
The distance is between two and three 
Having examined the ruins of the castle he 

firoceed to the church close by, which has be 
ately restored in very creditable style, conside 
ing the small amount of funds. He will iiotica 
handsome Norman doorway now reopened, a 
cina window, a drawing of wliich nppe.ired a ^ 
or two ago in the IUn»trated London Newt, and 
the interior some monuments of former Lords | 
Millom, among which are two wooilcn cflig 
such as I have seen mentioned in the page 
"N.&Q." There is a Druidical circle, ne 
perfect, about two mile? and a half from 
Green in n different direction; nnd the font 
Black Comb (the view from which on a clear d^ 
is said to be the most extensive in England, 
bracing parts of Wales and Scotland, nnd the 
of Man, and occasionally, though rarely, of 
land) is about three mile.s from the Green. 


^iitur fiatti. 

Thb Fatrbb ov Mb. Secretary Nichoi^s.^ 
In occasional readings one frequently meets ' 



Btrajr meinoranilum illustrative of biogrnphj ; 
*ucli are alvrnyE worth preservin?, and what better 
J^fw*itory Cor these diijecla membra tUiin " N. k 
Q."? By way ol' sample I give a jotting con- 
Cornin;; the father of Sir Edwd. Nicholas from a 
&f S. o( sequestrations, co. Wilts : — 
•* le Hec^ 164<\ 

•• X cliarKe of de)iaqaeDcy ag-ainst Edw* Kichohu of 
IVa ntwbonie, Kn'. 

•• I. That be wm a greate iDccn<Uark'." 

The abore is in the original handwriting of the 
riod. Underneath the entry some one whose 
•notrratn might be J. C. or C. 1% with tbe date 
1770, has recorded the subjoined note : — 

'"* This wa* tUe father of S^ Edw". Xicholas, Sao to 
Claa. iM. 

And M". Riggs, the descenilnnt from Si'' Edw'', who 
•ttlU S'. E-lw*'* manor of Motcomb in 1769, told roe old 
S*'- Step. Fox'e father woi ttie above (>ents Baylitf and 
"•anigeii hit estate at VViDterl>ourn, and at timea offici- 
•*t«6«J aa clerk of the parisb." 

Cl. HoppEa. 
£bboks jlnd Di6CBepv>cibs im Books on the 

P'KSBji.GB. — 

JVonetton. The London Mag. states Ibat Gen. 
Robert Monckton died ou the -iOtb June, 1782. 
I^ebrett and Burke give the 2nd May, 1782, as 
"*e ilate. Which is correct ? 

-Botetourt. Burke's Extinct Peerage names the 

l*st I Baron Botetourt, Nurhoime Berkeley ; in 

5***"te'» Dktionury of the Peerwj^e, p. 7(j. (tit. 

pfobt), and in Nicola* and Courthope's 7/w- 

Peerage, bis lordship's Cltriatian name is 

pa* I rated Nvrborne. 

.^'gl'!l< Robert, Adni., R,N., married Eleanor, 

Jjdow ijf Sauncy, Esq., daughter of Andrew 

^••Mot, &c. (Burke's Dictionary of the Peerage, p. 
^^^-). Eleanor Elliot was the widow of "James 
J^uncoy," Jun., of New York. 

*" -' " :cai/. In the last-menlioned work (p. 426.) 
'.d that John, 7th E.irt of Galloway, mar- 
iiiugbter of tbe Earl of Warwick. Turn- 
*"& now U) the title, " Brooke and Warwick," and 
*l)e children of Francis, Slh baron and Ist earl 
?- 3-2s.) of the same work, we find " Charlotte 
*T, »M. to John, 8th Earl of Galloway." Which 

lie ? 7tli or 8th earl ? 
'hhiu0u, Bart. It is stated in Burke's Peerage 
Baronetage (ed. 1841. p. 502.), that Sir Wd- 
**» Johnson of New York left, with two daugb- 
"*> two sons, viz. John, bis heir; Grey, a colonel 
*r *-^e army, whose only daughter married Colonel 
*^^«»ii Campbell, Turning ne.'ct to p. 168. we find 
•r'** name printed correctly " Guy." But Guy 
•-^^ititison was not a. son, but a son-in-law, of Sir 
' tlliam Johnson ; neither was he a colonel in tbe 
^'^^J', but a colonel of the Six Nations of Indians. 

E. B. O'C. 

ttoxtr Value. — Id Arnot's Iliit. of Edinburgh 
IPlfi 87 — 101.) are some interesting d)s;gertiitious 

on the value of money in Scotland at diflferent 
periods. Twelve pages are devoted to the prices 
of such commodities as represent pecuniary value 
from A.D. 1004 to 1590. lie e.\prejssly warns his 
readers that, in "comparing the rate of provisions 
between ancient and modern times, a very con- 
siderable allowance must be made for tbe :uiicle 
of taxation ; for the rates that are presently paid 
for most articles of provision are not the real 
prices, or those at wuieb between subject and* 
subject they are essentially sohl, but .ore also sums 
levied for the aid of government " — taxation lying 
very lightly, if at all, upon such articles in the 
olden time. 

In the Appendix (p. 606.) be gives " A Table 
of the Numeral or Nominal Pounds of Money in 
a Pound Troy of Silver, in the different .Eras of 
Scottish History," ab anno 1107 to 1738. 

William Gallowat. 


To Habosn Wood fob Sbipbuildiko. — Sir 
Joseph Bankes, in his Univertal Geography, makes 

mention of the ancient Lnbabitauts of Teiieriffe 
having possessed the secret of hardening wood 
that was impenetrable to the ihiscl. lie adds, 
that ** much of this wood is still to be found in the 
old vaults of the place." Let me recommend 
loiirists, in that du-ection, to try and obtain some 
of the wood, in order that analysis may determine 
the fluid that was used in their process. They 
would confer a benefit on their country. First, 
because there is a scarcity of seasoned wood in the 
dockyards ; and secondly, wood that can be made 
" impenetrable to the chisel," might be better able 
to resist tbe eflects of rifled cannons ! ! ! 

In the absence of any better method for "hard- 
ening and seasoning wood" in a very brief time — 
likewise rendering it " fire-proof and proof against 
the ravages of marine insects" — I beg leave to 
transcribe my process, which I recommead to the 
notice of shipbuilders and others : 

Diredioiin. — The wood is introduced into a 
close vessel, which is exhausted of air; solution of 
alum (of double the usual strength) Is then ad- 
mitted, and forced in by tbe pump till Uie pres- 
sure is from 110 to 140 pounds to ine square inch. 
Tbe wood becomes " tanned" by the alum. 

If there is any letter known process, I feel cer- 
tain that the Admiralty, and our private ship- 
builders, will feel thankful to any correspondent 
of " N. & Q," who will furnish it. 

Pabcite Naves ! 

Gahidaldi. — AA'hether the Liberator claims kio , 
with them I do not know : but there is a family | 
which derive their descent from Garibald, the^f 
father of Tbcodolinda, Queen of Lombardy, circa 
A.n. 590 (see Luitprand, Warnefrid, and the 
other Longobardiu wrvtCT*, cit vMitft csiwtttvivtv.'^-j , 
Gibbon, ca^i. 46.^ Gara \% VVt »iV\ V.^va& V>t 



strife, debate ; the phrase andar a gara, " to go 
to war," is however still often useJ. Buldi is not 
an uncoramon termination to nn Italian name : the 
Frescobaldi is an eminent instance. As nn adjec- 
tive it is now obsolete, but hahlunza, its deriYa- 
tive, which signifies prowess, dashing courage, &c. 
is commonljr used, especially in poetry. A. A. 

Poets* Comer. 

I have frequently seen discussions in " N. & Q." 
as to the origin of children's anazs ; it may not, 
therefore, be considered a subject beneath the no- 
tice of its correspondents if I seek for information 
concerning the authorsbip of a dialogue which I 
have ollen heard recited by young people of a 
theatrical turn of mind. I regret that I cannot 
quote tlie whole pa-ssage correclhj, but I think I 
con recollect it sulficiently well to lead to its rt;- 
cognition. The dramuiia pet'MOHir are a Lady and 
Gentleman — the gentleman rejoicing in a title, 
being called '• Sir John": — 

Lculy. I'll take a short 'nalk, but I won't go tar for 
fear I should meet Sir John. 

GtHiknuM. "Sir John"! Jiadom, to thee I humbly 
t>ow and bead. 

L. Sir, I take you oot to bf my friend. 

G. Friend, Madam, did ever I do you any harm? 

L. Harm, get you gone yon dirty coxcomb. 

G. Cuxcotntt, tliBt name I do defy — that name de- 
a«rvM a aUb. 

L. Sub, Sir. Ha ! Ua ! Tba^leaat I fear, appoint the 
hour I'll meet you there. 

G. Acrou yon river at the hour of firo. 111 me«t you 
there if I'm alire. 

[He lunu to leavab] 

L. SUy, aUy. Sir. You have a wife both fair and 
young, who can iFpeak French and Latin wilU an Italiuu 

Cr, One tongue's enough for an^ woman, and too mych 
for yoM ; and before I'll be conquered by a woman, I'll 
talie my sword and stab you throngh. [He does so.] 
Alaa! poor gifl, she's gone— and iiuce she's gone, I must 
go to her. [He »tabs himself.] 

The piece is too ridiculous to have formed a 
part of any plapr, and must, 1 think, have been 
written to satirise some of the old tragedies. I 
shall be excessively obliged to anyone who will 
give me any information relating to the writer of 
the above. St. Swithik. 

Tub " ScTfOLK Mebclbi."— The Suffolk Mer- 
cury, or St. Edmumt!: Bui-y Putt, being an impar* 
tial collection of the most material occurrences, 
&c., published at St. E.huund's Bury: printed by 
T. Baily and W. Thomfison, in the Butter Market, 
17—, every Monday. I should be glad to know 
when it commenced, and when if ceased ? Also, 
couJJ sfime kind reader of " N. & Q." say where a 

set of it itisf be saeu ? 1 have 

1 1^. say 
itildaea I 


nil from Monday, February 3, 1728, 
of vol. x\x. to Monday, Dec. *2t», ITSiB," 
30. of vol. XX, Each number contairu i 
principally local news. The volume 
1725-6, and the one for the year 17 
all probability aflbrd me some information, 
I should be much obliged with the name i 
of any publication of local news fur the can 
SutTolk between the years 1 707 and 1 762 ; 
collection of SulTolk monuments and churcl 
from 1790 to Ii>03, especially for Ix>ng H 
and the adjoining parishes. Javbs Col 

22, High Street, Bloomsbury. 

A Leicestee Ball Tickbt. — In the j 
of English manners from the last century 
present, nothing is more remarkable than U 
tinual progreaaion of the hours fixed for CO 
meetings. Our luncheons, or breakfasts, ( 
dinners of otu* great-grandfathers, and our c 
their suppers. It wdl scarcely be imn^t 
those who go to a dauce but little before mit 
that public ball* ia thf last c«ntury cotot 
early in the afternoon. 

I liavc before me a ticket, decorated iN 
appropriate ornamental margin, and beartt 
engraver's name — 

/. Bnckerfcifd, L/aetnf, Semlp, \ 

and the announcement thus expressed j 

at Uit Tmcii Ilall in 

LKII^KiTtB OH llie 

[28] dayo/[Nov', 1728] 

Thomas Hodgson 


A'o admitlamee a/ttri 

4 a Oodi. 

The dates I have bracketed are fmE 
pen, .and on a piece of paper stuck over the 
Town Hall \3 written [Caatlc] : so that ih« 
was probably engravctl a few years beforj 
when the place of meeting had been aitere 
the ibrmcr to the latter buildiiitr. Tha 
several correspondents of " N. & <i." resid 
Leicester, who will be able to say wheih« 
have seen any other copies of this ticket, 
will they be so good as mention the datei 
tbeui ? Also, is nnythmg known of L Buck 
as a provincial artist ? Or of Thumsa U< 
the "Master" of the ball f 

JonR GoutjH Ni 

Pallbns. — Can any of your learned 
spondents explain satisfactorily the epilhcl 
lens," so often used by Virgil and applied 
violets, grass, and olives "P These epii bets 
cur in the Eclogues, and must be fnuiiliar I 
classical readers. Tlie usual translation • 
can scarcely Bp[>ly to all these objects. A, 

AcTuoBSHir OF A Pbepakatiok to 
CoitMuiiioK. — Can anjr of your rca 

who was iLe autbor of lh<i tvork, Ute title of 
■liicb, u affixed to the reprint ol" 1701, is ns fol- 
lows : — 

& Z. Sktt. 1. '80.] 



" A Preparation to th« Iloly Commiuiion, with Praycra, 

ns niid Tlianlc«givin(j3. By s godljandleumol 

the Church of EngUml ; for tfi« use of our Ute 

_ errogn Lady Eliiiilielh, Qua«D of England. &c. 

tFritAeA in the year 1588, and now reprinted. L«udon, 

irriuted for Sam. Keblo at the Turks Ui 

SCffC«<. 1<U1. 


Head, in Floet 

The dedicatory epistle to Queen ElizabetJi is 
•ttbjcribed •* C. U.," and dated « Nov. 17, 15«8." 


SiLVATOR Rosa. — I have been informed tipon 
3d autbority that the late Princess Sophia of 
licestcr left a landscape picture by Salvator 
to the National Gallery under hor will, 
leh was proved, I think, in 1844. 
I have no recollection of ever seeing this pic- 
■e in the gallery. Perhaps some of your renders 
ajr know something about it F E, D. H. 

IMiM AS .*. TiTLB. — The eldest datichter of the 
keail of the family is always called Mi.ix, without 
MSalinn the Christian name: but suppose this csie: 
itr". Smith is an only son, his father is dead, he is 
vsmxried and has a dau:d>ter and son ; the daugh- 
^*tr is of course Jliss Smith. In course of time 
J'^. Smith dies; Mi&s Smith remains unniarrle<l, 
"}* t her brother, who is now Mr. Suiith, h luar- 
n«?*l and hxis a daughter. Is tiiis daughter JSliss 
^«*iitli, or Miss Jane Smith ? Does the aunt cive 
"P her title lo the eldest daughter of the head of 
Itte family or not ? K. B. 

IJtmroujgt. — Who is the author of the hjmu 
^^^•wmencing — 

" Oft in sorrow, and in woe 
Onward, Christians, onward go." 

^ is attributed by Bickersteth, in bis Christian 
y*cUmodif, to Kirke White, but I think erroneously. 
** U not in XBv edition of Kirke White's poems. 

toE FocB GEoaaEs ; Geokge II. — Can any 
rS. Jour readers tell lue on what authority JMr. 
j^^ckemy asserts {Comhill Mag. Aug. No., p. 
^ I .) tliat the false and blasphemous eulogy on 
**af rrw.nt.-v of vice, George II. (which he quotes) 
**^" y Mr., afterwards Bp., Portcus ? 

I> ^ ■ bishop whom the same writer affirms, 

i" Isl., of the same No., to have virtually paid 
^*0/. for his bishopric ? 
^ -In p. 175. of the same No. what is meant by 
^ 'Hf king making away with his father's will 
I 'lie astonished nose of the Archbishop of 

iry?" A. B. 

^ Gat, M.D. : WiiajAM. G*v, M.D. 

•I In.. I , l,:i(l in lu? hands a series of very 

• iniaturcj on vellum, executed 

the close of the terin* 


tcentli centurj'. Amon;r them is a portrait of Iha 
Rev. Timothy Cruso, whose surname his school^ 
fellow, De Foe, is said to have borrowed, anti 
known to have turned to good nccounf. Thai 
likeness has been engraved. There is one oCTTieo- 
p/iiius Gay, M.D. T. Cruso had a very intimate 
friend. Dr. Willtam Gay, who, in 1697, was re- 
siding "at Mr. Lep|>iug well's, iu Kelvcdon, Enscx." 
Jloraut, Hitt. Esttj:, 1768 (ii- l^-*-)i under Kst 
vjiDos, says, '• Thomas Lcapin&well, Gent., hat 
an estate here." Cau anyone oolige me with auj^ 
particulars of these Gays, their relationship or 
alliances ? or say when or w here they died ? 

S. VT. Rix- 

Consecration of a Privatb Bcsial GBonsD. 
— Tan any of your readers fell me what legid, 
"forms" have been u.wd recently iu the consccra* 
tiou of a private burial-place or mausoleum witliii 
a g«ntl«man's grounds Y A Scbsckibeb. 

B.vDoes or Scottish Ci.a>s. — In the List of 
Clans and their Badges whit-h is Riven in Uoydn's 
Dictionanj of Date), I find the following : — 

Campbell • 
Gnthom - 


And these are the only apparently exotic iilani 
in this list of badges. The CaiBpbellb' badge 
being Myricu gale, or " Duteh myrtle," a British 
plant, is not really an e.xcejilion to a rule which " 
lewcuiber somewhere lo have hcaid, that the 
badges of all the claus were plants indigenous is 
Scotland. But if the borlges of Graham and M" 
Dougall are the pLints known in the south by the 
names of laurel and cypress, tliey still remain cx- ' 
ceptions to this rule ; and I shall be obliged to 
any of your corres[>ODdcnts, skilled in botany and 
clan-lore, who will confirm or refute these e.xccp- 
tions. Geo. £. Fxnan. 


"Punch pleases tUo Cockneys l>v calliofr them Roaring- 
British Lions. Demosthcuej told the Athenians tiul 
they were Kagirs soaring among the clouds ; and ZmA- 
riali Jackson got the same ont of Brown's Irandalioe, 
and charmed the suckers. How comes it that comparipoa 1 
to such vermin is flattering? The lion is only n hig cat, 
anil the eagle a bird of prey that will feed OQ utrbage 
ratbar than fight a game cock." — Fivi Cmtt' Jf'ucfA cf 
Adcict to AbuKtioiitiU, New Orleans, 1^<'10, pp. 21. 

What is the passage in Demosthenes ? and i» 
there a translation by Brown ? W. C. 

Co.MrxmnKE ix Ke5t, wmkrb? — Froissart 
(ChroH., vol, ii. cap. 116.) states, that after th(' 
disj>ersion of the rebels under Wut Tyler, the 
King entered into Kent and came to a village 
called Comprimbre, ami called iVkt TRV3W li.'P.^ '^^ 
the men of iVw towT\ V^oTt Vvuvv, «.\A *^v.^ ^^^ 
puulshed sucVx m«tv us Vicni Vxiw^^^^*^* v»e«^ 




leaders in the relieffion. He goes on to say, " In 
like mnnner »s tlie King had done at Comprimbre, 
he did at Canterbury, at Sandwicli, and otber 
plnces in Kent." 

Wbat town could this be 't It must have been 
of importance as it bad a mayor. A. A. 

Poeta' Corner. 

" Famtu.vr ErisTLES TO Fkederick JoMsa, 
Esq.," ETC. —I have a small volume containing, 
besides Familiar Epiilles to Frederick Jones, Esq., 
on the PretcJit Slate of the Irish Stage, the follow- 

1. "Theatrical Tears, a Poem, occasioned bv 'Familiar 
Ej.istlej to Frederick J ■, Ek^: Dablin, 1804." 

2. "An Aniwer to 'Familiar Epistles to Frederick 
J s, Esq.* Dublin, 1804." 

3. " TeA-Table CoDvcrsalion ; an Epistle to the Author 
of • Familiar Epistles.' Dublin, 1804.'' 

4. " A Few Keflectionf on ' Familiar Epistles to F 

J 8, Km.' Dublin. 1804." 

5. "A Modest Reply from F. J., Euu to the Author of 
< Faiuiiiar Epistles, to the Manager.' Dublin, 180(1." 

Can you oblige me with the names of the re- 
spective authors of the foregoing publications ? 


Wiixs. — Where would the original witls, or 
copies of the wills, of the following persons be 
likely to be preserved : — 

1. A landed proprietor in Lancashire, ob. 1710. 

2. A Perthshire clergyman, ob. 1770. 

3. A Kentish rector, ob. 1857; i.e. supposing 
they left any wills ? 

Am I correct in supposing that all wills are re- 
gistere<l in some public office ? What is the Com- 
missary Court nt Edinburgh ? Wbat is the best 
work on the above subjects? Sigma. Theta. 

Farrewdine. — In 1684 certain parties were 
tried in the Court of King's Bench for a riot at 
the election of Mayor at Nottingham. The cause 
of the riot was the resistance to a new charter 
which had been granted to that corporation. Mr. 
Rippon, one of the Crown witnesses, deposed as 
follows : — 

" I >vai fain to secure the charter ; and a farrtHdimt 
waistcoat that I bad oa was all rubbed to pieces to save 
the charter, and I had mucli ado to save it." — Honell's 
Stule TriiUi, X. 63. 

An explanation of farrendine is requested. 


Bible bt Barker dated 1495. — A young 
lady, ^liss A. Rattenbury, has lately discovered, 
and is now in possession of, an English Bible 
which professes to have been " Imprinted at Lon- 
don by the Deputies of Christopher Barker, Frin- 
ter to the Queene'a most excellent Maiestie," but 
bears the date of 1495. 
Sur-eiy there must be a mistake in this figure ; 
but a collation oftlils very curious Bible wit£ the 


English bibles preserved at the Britit'h Museum 
has led moreover to the result that the C'diiion ol 
the former does not correspond with any of the 
editions of the latter. At present it would seem, 
therefore, that the copy in possession of Mi*s R|^ 
tcnbury is a unique copy. Could von kindly f 
nish me some information concerning this liter 
curiosity ? N. ' 

MS. or n AL«'s " Pus AS or tue Crows." — The 
original MS. of Hale's " History of the Picas ol 
the Crown " (in one largo folio volume) is said bj 
Hargrave (in a note to the transcript in the Har- 
grave collection) to have been bought by his 
friend Mr. Henry Brown of Liverpool, at some 
time after 1792 at a book-stall iu Bell Yard. In- 
formation as to who is the present possessor ol 
this volume would greatly oblige W. AL 


m un 

(Surrteit bittl) ^niiatri, 

Naples rotrxuKb on Egos. — Mr. Buckle, 
his History of Civiliiiation in England, vol. i. p. 
287., speaking of the corruptions of the histoiiaiu 
of the Middle Ages, tells us, — 

" It was well knotrn that the city of Naples was AiaoM 
oa eggs," and adds the folloninir note : — " Mr. Wright 
(jVnuTdritys of Sorctry, 8vo., 1651. vol. i. p. 115.) tajm^ 
'The foundatioD of the city of Naples upon eggi, and ma 
egg on which its fate depended, seem to have bam le- 
gends generally current in tbe Middle Ages;' and he 
referii to Montfaacon, Jtfonumm* de la Jifno. Fr., vol. S. 
p. 329., for proof, that by the statutes of the Order of the 
Saint Esprit, ' a chapter of the knights was appoint 
be held annually in Castello ori inctntati iu mil 
periculo.' " 

As it would be interesting, ;it tbe pre^sent mo- 
ment, to know all we can respecting the N| 
politan capital, perhaps some correspondent 
" N. & t^.' may be able and willing further, 
elucidate this subject. The legend, ut leaab 
far as we learn above, does not inform us of 
species were the cg"8. Doubtless they have I 
since become addled. But although we may 
be able to discover the particular egg on w' 
tbe fate of Naples de[)ends, 1 think Imay (w 
out any pretensions to being a prophet) prei 
that the Bourbon yoke will, ere many days, 
overthrown by " Gaxiba 

[The following extract from the story of" Vii 
reprinted in Thorns' Early Prou Romancri, vol. ir 
1 — 63., furnishes the legend in its most complete funn j 

■' And Virgilius was soro cnaniorc<l of that l.idy. ( 

Sodan's dawghler.) Than he thonght inlii 

he niyt;ht marere h>T, and tkouguta iu ' 
foondo m the myddes of tlio sea a fayr towi 
landes belong}-ng to it: and so he dyd by bis cunny 
and called it Napella, and the fuodacyon of i( wi 
egges ; and in that townc of Xapells be mad 
with iiij comers, and in the toppe he set aa ap; 
yron yarde, and no man culde pull that apell \ 
brake it : and thorowghe that yron set he a twl 
that bote! set ho a egge ; sod he heoge Um 

>* & X. Sktt. 1. '60.] 

IOAukf upon ■ cbcjroe. mn>l so bangvth it stylt. Aai 
*!i«iiDe the eg^ti stvrrctli m ahnlile lue lowue of Xap«ls 
fttaic, and u-tiea llie egge brake to sbuMe the towne 
iTako. WbeD be had made ■□ ende be lecte call it }{a- 
For reference to v«riou» writers who have treated of 
the mythic Virgil, the reader i« relerreJ to Mr. Tboma' 
IntrixJuc'tion to the Romonoe, Scbniidt'ii Dcitra<jc tur 
Ge»ch\thte der JiutHunlitchim Pottle, and to the second 
»olnine, s. cxxv. of Vjn der Hagen's Gaammt abtn- 

PoiTBAiT OF John Buntah. — I have a paint- 
ing in my possession, a portrait of John Buiiyon, 
with a liic« collar : above are the words " May Goii 
prvservQ you both in love;" and below " Aged 
lixty years and four months." It is an oW paint- 
ing. Can you or any of jour readers infornf me 
^y 'whom it is painted ? R. Waugh. 

l_A painting exactly answering tbij description waa at 
Bijr bouM for a few days recently. It has some resent- 
ouuice to John Bunyan ; but upon a minute exnmination, 
attil comparing it. with the origiual by Sadler, and that 
<V AiVhile, the mu.-'tacbios, imperial, an^ forehead satitlied 
I** that it was not intended for Jubn Bunyan. He died 
w» the sixtieth year of bis age, and therefore could not be 
"•Aged aixty years and four months." — Geokqe Offoh.] 

**TnE Battle or Hexham." — Who wrote the 
Pl«» entitled T/ie BuUle of liexfium .' I have 
'J*olceJ over the list of works by most of the old 
]""aiuatists, without being able as yet to meet with 

T. H. C. 




C ** 7%e Battle of Hexham " (says Geneate, Engliih Stage, 
■*'- Ti. o69.), " is a poor play in " 



^m P**- It ia a jumble of tragedy, comedy, and opera — the 
~ '■'•Rnage is unoaturaL" It waa first acted at the Hay- 
'''**Jtel, n Aug. i;«9.] 

QooDwiJi's CJoun) WRmmjg. — Would you be 
JOod enough to su|iply me with the " where and 
*"*«n printetl," &c. of the following works by 
,**t»n Goodwin, which are not mentioned in Bohn's 

^P ^^umny Arraigned aod Cast. ^-Ito. Loud. IG4J.] 
^ogio-iuaatix. [Ito, Lond. ISlC] 
J^- Candle to the Sun. [4to. IGIO.] 
■* Huoc^Mut* and Truth triunipbtag together. 
^<1. IMS.] 
-«^t«nat«. [-Ito. I^nd. 1616.] 

I College Visited. [4to. Lond. IG48.] 
omachio. [lio. Lund. 1044.] 
Je to the Parliament. [We have not been able to 
tht date, &c. of this work.] 


-^»Tt». — A friend of mine, in writing to me, 

, I'lonH are being made here fur the 
I'liblic institutions arc all aifir l on 
I that vrurd in a dictionary, though 
Ve icm It ult«n au><l.)" 

■•- am myself u uteiuber of a literary institutioA 

Vrhich there are many dictionaries, but not one- 

Ukvai has " astir." Can you inform me if it be 

t ; and. if so, where I can find it ? Is it 

kn Uugliahman would hare used the word 

without looking at a dictionary at all ? I am sure 
I should for one. H. North. 

[We have bad no belter sncoesc than our correspon- 
dcnL Jamieson, however^ gives ua the Scottish equiva- 
lent, asleer : — 

" Mv minny [mother] she's a acalding wife, 
^ads a' tLe bau«« atitrr." 

And again (in Sufipleinent) : " Ye 're air OMlacr the day; 
I. e. you are early abroad to-day." 

Altbongb our lexicographers seem to agree in ignoring 
the'wonl ■* oatir," we cannot help considering it legitimate 
Kngliih ; nor should we feel any hesitation in stating 
that, on the morning of the Duke's funeral, "long before 
break of day, all London was tuoV."] 

Slang Nomb>ci,.v.tuke of Coins. — Will any of 
your correspondents fuvour me with the deriva- 
tion, and date of introduction, of the following 
slang terms now in use for coins, viz. : — 

Bull and fmlf-a-bittl - - Crown and half-crown. 
Bc^ A shilling. 

?t«r}- - - - s-p^---^- 

Joty - - - - - A groat. 
The terms rosoriu (sovereigns), and browns (half- 
psnce), speak for themselves. 

I olyerve that " N. & Q." is a useful hand-book 
for provincialisms, tcruia, and sayings ; even cur- 
rent ones might occasionally be recorded, or, in 
I960, we shall have some of our great-grandchil- 
dren writing to the Editor of " N. *c Q." (doubt- 
less by that time a goodly volume enlarged in 
size), with such inquiries as what was the origin 
of— "Who's your butter?" and "Who shot the 
dog ? " Abracadabra. 

[ The only one of these terms of which the origin ia 
explained in the curious Dictionary of Modern Slang, 
Cant, and Vulgar IVbrdi lately published by Hotten 
(though all the words themselves are to be found in it) 
is JoBr, which we ate told " is derived (like Bonnv Oom 
Sir Koltert i'eel) from Joseph Hume, the late respected 
&LP. The explanation is thus giren in Hawkins's Uu- 
targ oftlte Silrrr Coinatie of Great Britain : * These pieces 
ore said to owe their existence to the pressing instance of 
Mr. Hume, from whence they, for some time, bore the 
nickname of Joets. As they were very convenient to 
pay short cab-fares, the hon. M.P. was extremely un- 
popular ivith the drivers, who frequently received only a 
groat where otherwise they wonid have received a six- 
pence without any demand for change.' The term ori- 
ginated with the London cabmen, who have invented 
many others."] 


('2»« S. ix. 425.) 

John Hampden's first wife was a Ikliss Simeon, 
of Pirlon, 0.\on, by whom he had three sons and 
six daughters ; hia second was the Lady Letitia 
Vachell, tlie widow of Sir John ', by whom he 

• Coates 

calls him Sit Tkomaa. V«%t* \^w«. 


18- a i Bi 

Iiad no ofliipring. Mary, hia sixth daughter, was 
first married to Col. liul>ert Hammond, nnd by 
him ^be Lad three daughters, Elizabeth, Mary, and 
Letlice, who, in 1673, sold the loauor of Willen in 
liucks to the celebrated Dr. Busby : Col. II. bad 
purchased this manor a few years before, being 
then of Chertsey, where bi* uncle, the physician to 
Charles I., had property. Artcr the colonel's death 
his widow, Mary Ilamptlen, married Sir John Ho- 
bart, and from that marriage descends the present 
inheritor of the Hampden and Trevor estates, "and 
the lineal representative of John Hiunpdeo," the 
present Earl of Buckinn;hamshire. (Lipsconibe's 
Jiui:lis.) So far Lipscombe ; and if so, then neither 
of Col. PTaiuiuond''s daughters can have carried into 
the family of our querist the blood of Ilanimond and 
Hampden ; bearing with it that ofKuoll^s, Carey, 
and Buleyne, through the marriage of Sir Francis 
Knollys with Catherine Carey, daughter of William 
Carey by his wife Lady Mary Boloyne, sister of 
Queen Anne Boleyne. tiut if wesay that Lipsconibc 
is most likely correct nhcn he names the ladies who 
sold the manor of Willen, as Elizabeth, Mary, and 
Letticr, then perhaps we may ascertain that *' Simon 
Ford " in his dedication may be partly riaht and 
wrong. He says "the Ludy Ceciba Knollys," who 
may be either the widow of Sir Thomas Ivnollys, a 
commander in the Low Countries; or perhaps she 
amy have been tlie widow of Sir Ueury Knollys, 
Bart., who died in 1G48. The '■ Lady Lettice Va- 
cbell" I take to be not the wife, but the mother- 
in-law of John lliinipden, who, according to 
Coatcs (p. 210.), died u widow, and was buried as 
Lady ^'achell in St. JIary's churoii, Reading, on 
the 29th .March, 1GC6 ; the "Lady Anne Pye" is 
the wife of Sir Robert Pye, and the daughter of 
John Hampden : " Mrs. Lettice Harnjjden " is the 
widow of our gi-ent patriot, and in my opinion the 
daughter of Sir ^y/i/i Vachell and Letitia Knollys, 
the widow above mentioned. Now comes our diffi- 
culty : " Mrs. Elizabeth, Margaret, and Mary Ham- 
mond, Mrs, Trevor," and all the rest of the noble 
families who wore in mourning for Col. Ham- 
mond. The only method of solvmg the matter in 
my opinion is to say that Mary, the sixth and 
youngest daughter of John Hampden, was by Lis 
second wife, Miss Letitia Vuchell, and not by his 
lirst, Miss Simeon ; and I come to this conclusion 
because being descended from the Hammonds in 
tlte female line, I have most carefully searched 
for the name of Ldtive among the Simeon ladies 
without effect, whereas it is peculiarly a Knollys 
name, and a fiivourite one too : being first intro- 
duced into the family by the marriage of Robert 
Knollyf!, temp. Henry VHL, with Lettice, daughter 
of Sir Thomas Penyston. A descendant of this lady, 
Lettice Knollys, was married to William, Lord 
Paget ; !Uiother Lettice to Walter Devereux, Earl 
ofEsiaex ; and the one in (lucsiion, Lettice Knollys. 
»r.;..- married to Sir John Vnchell. Aft?r the re- 

storation the family of Hammond alt 
.snelling of their name ; and I bclieira 
Parker Homond family of Haling Uoiubi 
arc the nearest male representatives of D) 
Hanunoud, so well known lor his itteatii 
unfortunate Charles L, as well as of th( 
Hammond above-mentioned. I luiTe an 
by me which has the name of" Wm. Uam< 
about 1U84, and 1 traced him to have bee 
iu St. Mary's, Reading, in 1692 as Wm. 

I have appended my address in cose you 
may wish for farther mformatiun from 

87. Harrow Ko«J, W. 



(2'«' S, X. 6. ISS.) 

The employment of the Tela ttrame 
spider's weo, as an internal medicine in * 
other malarious diseases, has considcrabl 
sional testimony in its support. Dr. ( 
formerly one of the medical professor 
university of Philadelphia, an exoellent 
physician, deservedly esteemed by the j 
in America, iu his Elementi of Materit 
and Tkerapeutict, 4th clition, 2 vols. 8vc 
delphia, 1825, writes of the spider's we 
lows : — 

"It is an old aud a vcrv general notion i 
vul|,'ar of most conntrics* tliAt the spidet'* w 
spider its«lf, is possessed of ibc power of ciiria| 
fever, and - is actoally employed with tUa '« 
with one or two exceptions ihoy were rejected 
practice, atid their cunilivi: effect, if admitted 
imputed eutirely tu the ttroou sensations c» 
difgustiug a remedy. At liisTasl visit to this» .ijjo, 1 naa informed by Dr. Rol>ert Juki 
British army, that, bavins largely ejiperimaott 
web, he had mnch reason to suppose that pop 
dence in it vros well foandod. In intermittutt 
its poivers were indlsputiilily ascertained, and I 
ODodyne to allay pain or calm irritstioa it ftt 
superior even io opiates. The web, howerw, 
been accredited as a remedy in these cases. Il 
in James's and other old dispeasatories, and 
viously used b)' Lind and Gillespie. By one of 
(Dr. liroughton of Soath Carolina, who nvade i 
ject of his Inaagurnl Thesis) iu whom I coold 
iiaoce, ihe subject was, at my request, not long 
tnveali|;ated, and by trial on himself as vrell as 
he aubalaiitiullr routirmed the preceding Mate 
a Inte work by Ur. Jucksou on fevers, I find 
account of his experience with the article. . , . 

" The web has been prbscribcd by myself a 
of my medical friend.o, particularly by Dr. Pt: 
Dr. I3ewees, and tbongli diflerent dtgnt» of 
attached to the article, we are welt satisfied (1 
presentation of its virtues to wbieh I have i 
very little, if at all, exnj^Ker^iled. Io di>»es of t 
N|)eated every fourth ur ufth hour. I have coren 
.stinate Intern i" ^'ciuted the paroj^aou 

overconiu m"; - « from excesrira M 

bility, and q>r uon of the system iH 

causes, and not leos tu connected with prolfatt 
and other chrontc pectoral aJIectiuot. 

.Stpt. I. "eo.;] 




!<•*« vi it nine!) I liad a contrariety of opinion as re- 
•ptL-tj i(( utoAe of operaLicin. Wlkilo some consider it as 
i'gblr jtimnlnnt, !rx-iijor«tlnK the force of the pulse, in- 
<niuuj[ li nri' uf tue surface, and. heightening 

OUitMieni others, ^fitiieasing no aneh efTticta, 

tnStfotK.^ .. -. .:;twitb thoM remedies which wem 
to d» gooil chieiiy by soothing the agitations of the 
*tMhb. I confeea that I concur in the Litler viuTr of its 

*TImi<* i* much difieronce in the web of the rarioiu 
•padw of apider. That iu«d in this city ia collected in 
1 c«I]an, and ia probabl.r the product of the common black 
repitlcr. which b to be generally met with in euch dark 
am] damp places. I have utiiitie<l inys«U° Lb:u tbe wvb 
foBTid in light exposed sitoationi, the product of the grey 
Wicler, t« inert, and alao the ireb of the other when old. 
rhe recent oiay be known by iu gtutiuoua feel." — Vol. ii. 
PPL 202 C. 

Dr. Jackson, in the work refen-ed to by^ Dr. 
Chjipman, cji,press«8 liU belief that spider'a nub 
prevent3 the recurrence of febrile paroxysms 
■K>T« abruptly and more efleotually than bark, 
U^«uic, or liny other retnetly with which he was 
•^quainteJ. If given during the intermission — 

•• The return of the paroxytm," says he, " was prevented 

— if £iven under the Qrst symptoms of a commencing 

P*i«xyjm the tyuptoms were auppretsed, and the coarse 

I erf the paroxysm was so much interrnpteJ that the dia- 

,'*■•« for the most part lost its characteristic symptoms. 

r y t t was not gi»*n until the paroxysm was advanced in 

l*0|gittai the lymptoois of irritation, viz. trciiiora, stnrt- 

J»», spAsms, and deliriums — if such existed as forms of 

I nRirile action — were usually reduced in Tiolence, somc- 

' I^iAe entirely removed. In this ease sleep, calm and 

'■'reBhini;, esDaJIv followed the mdden and perfect re- 

■•val of pain amf irritation." 

to u 

I J Ire cobweb is a popular application 
surface ; and I have mysell icon it 
•*•!« u iiii: M'nv from leech-bites when Citustic and 
^thur potent means bad been tried in vain : — 

** The cobweb, applied to a bleeding surface," says Dr. 
•*ck>on, "occasions a very sharp and transient pain — the 
^^^Dg inalandy ceasea." .... "It has also been ap- 
l^*d locally under my own eye," writes Dr. Jackson, " to 
^*»ntad and irritable surfaces with iunguUr good effect. 
** first ilie fiain which it occasioned was sharp, but it 
*^a ojumentarr, and the surfaces which had buen painful, 
^'•ablr. and uBtractable to other applications for weeks 
■*" llMatin, w«re healed Dp in the course of two or three 
<_>> at fanbeet. The exucrimeut was made ou sui>er- 
"=*•! torea only." 

In reference to Ma. Redmond's Note (2°^ S. ix. 
}^^.) I would append u final quotation from Dr. 
J*ck«on: — 

i^Tlieci.' ' iMiended Is the produce of the 

■*Vk epi'l - eeilani, barns, and stables; 

'"« mtitli .1 _, ., UyC* IN autuiiM dnet not poutu 

M< loaM piatr ij it ix aeiaaUg of tlu tamt tialure." 

Of tbe uac of the spider itself 1 know nothing. 

A complete history of the animal subatancea 
ttbicb have been employed as remedies by the 
public or ibc faculty wonld foi*m an interesting 
chapter to the curiosities of medical practice. 
UQlipadaa, or woodiice, are said to be active 
and hare been hrgelj- ewplojed bj 

orthodox practitioners. The bug,, about which ao 
much has recently njipeared in " N. & Q.," ia re- 
puted to possess siuular powtirs ns the Spanish 
fly, being a vesicant when applied to the skin, and 
a diuretic and irritant of the urinary organs. 

W. Musi, M.D. 
Finsbury Place. 

Under a notice of " Amulets " iu the Miicifclo- 
ptBfliti Metropolilaiui I find the following extract 
from the Diary of Elias Asbmole : — 

" I took early in the morning a cood dose of elixir, and 
hong three spiders about my neck, and they drove my 
ague away, Deo gratias ! " ' 

" Spiders and their weba," aay* Pettigrew, " have oftea 
been recommended for the cure of this malady." 

Burton gives the following : — 

"Being in the country, in the vacation time, not many 
Tears since, at Lindlyiu Leicestershire, my father's bouse, 
I first observed this amulet of a .ipider iu a nutahell, 
wrapped in ailk, so applied for an ague l<y my mother . . 
. . . . I could 8«e no warrant for it, * tiuid aranea cum 
Febre?' For what antipatbv? till at length rambling 
amongst authors (as I often lio), I found this very medi- 
cine in Dioscorides, approved by Mattbiolus, repeated by 
Aldrovondus, cap. de Araaea, lib. de Inseciis." — tl/iJ. 


(•i"* S. X. 46. 79.) 

The legend alluded to by J. H. L. is told by 
Sir Walter Scott in his Letters oh Demonulogy 
and Witchcruft, p, 1.16., and a similar tale is 
piveii at p. 138., but Sir Walter does not relate 
the Cfacihirc U]^nd. It is given, however, in the 
Mirror, No. 475., for Feb. o. 1831; and ns it 
may very np|)ropriatcly be preserved in " N. & 
Q.,'' the following tr.inscript has been made fioai 
the Mirror : — 

" Tlic scene of the Cheshire legend is placed in the 
nei^hboarhootl of Maccleslield, in that county, and the 
sign of a public bouse on Mouk'» lleath may have ar- 
rested the attention of many travellers from London to 
Liverpool, This village hostel is known by the desigaa- 
tiou of the Iron Gates. TIk; sign represents a pair of 
ponderous gates of that metal, ojicning at the biddinj; of 
a figure, enveloped in a cowl ; Icforv whom kneels 
another, more resembling a modern veomau than oue of 
tlie 12th or 13lh century, to which 'perio*! (>>>- legend 
is attributed. Behind' this person is a white horse 
rearing, and in the background a viuw of Alderlcy Edge. 
The story is thus told of the tradition to which the sign 
relates ; — 

" ' The Inn Gate*, or iht Clmhirt Enchanttr. 

"'A farmer from Moblwrley was riding on a white 
horse over the heuth which skirts Alderlcy Edge, Of 
the good qualities of bis steed he was justly proud; and 
I while 'touping down to adjust its manp, previously tn 
bis otturing it for sale at Macclesfield, be was surpriwd 
bv th« .sudden starting of th« aaivD.a.\.. Vicv.\»ioV\.^3.ij. xm}"^*- 
perceived a ftgut« ^ von \iiMk. c«i«aaB». >a»*^ J|^ 
reloi.ed in a cov«\, avv4 wVwiaiwvs. ». !."<.»« «Jl\i^»KV ^w 




I S. X Si 

across bis patli, The figure addressed him in a com- 
manding voice; told him that he wonid nceli. in vain lo 
dispose of his steed, for -whom a nobler destiny wiu in 
store, and bade him meet him when (b« sun bad .<tet, with 
111* hors«, at the name place. He tlien dii^ppcired. The 
farmer, resolving to put tb« truth of this prodiction to 
the te§t, hastened on to Mncclesdcid fair, but no pur- 
chn«er could ha obtained for his horse. In vnin ho re- 
duced his price to half; many admired, but no one was 
willing to be the possessor of so promivng » f>t('e<L Siim- 
aoning, tfaercfore, all hiscourage, he determined to brave 
the wont, and at annset reached the appointed place. 
The monk was puuvtual to bta appoioimeDt. ' Follow 
me,' said he, and led the way by the GolJeit Sront, 
Slorm;/ Poinl. lo Saddle Bule.* On their arrivnl nt this 
la!!t-naraed »pot, the neiyh of horaes seemed to nriso from 
beneath their feet. The stranger waved his wand, the 
earth opened and disclosed a pair of ponderous iron gateo. 
Terrilic<l at tbis, the borse plunged and threw liis rider, 
who kneeling ol the feet of his fearful companiDii, prayed 
earnestly for mercy, 'jlie monk bndo him fear nothing, 
but enter the cavern, and see what no mortal eye ever 
yet beheld. On paasing the gates, ho found himself in 
a spacioiu cavern, on cadi side of which were borsea, re- 
sembling bis own, in size and colour. Near these lay 
aoldiers accoutred in ancient armour, and in the chasms 
of the rock were arms, and pile* of gold and silver. From 
one of these the enchanter took the price of the horse in 
ancient coin, and on the farmer o^ing the meaning of 
these subCerraDean armiea, exclaimed : " Thcie are ca- 
vemed warriors preeerred by the good genins of Eng- 
land, until that eventful day when, distracted liy intestine 
broils, England shall be thrice won and lost between 
sunrise and luuset. Then we, awakening from our sleep, 
shall rlae to turn the fate of Britain. 1\\ia shall be when 
George, the son of George, shall reign. When the forests 
of Delamare shall wave their arms over the slaughtered 
aoos of Albion. Then shall the eagle drink the blood of 
princes from the beodleas crou (qaery conet). Now Itaste 
thee home, for it is not in thy time these things shall be. 
A Cestriau shall speak it, .and be believed." The farmer 
left the cavern, the iron gates closed, and though often 
sought for, the place has never again been found.' " 

r. c. H. 

k Thi 

f 'Al 

A Paciticvtoky Prei-ebent ('2°* S. x. 87.) 
— Referring to the coiuiiiunic-ition of jour cor- 
respondent Conxiliatob, relative to the dis- 
sensions between the two Uoimes of Parliament, 
I beg to olTor sutne particulars eluciilatory of wLat 
occurred on the occasion to which he alludes. 
With this view I would call attention to an ex- 
tract which I subjoin from an old and very scarce 
work, which is distinguished by great exactness 
in its historical details : it is entitled the British 
Chromlogist, in 3 vols. 8vo., London, 1775. In 
the first volume (p. 268.), under onno '22*° Cbas. 
II., and date, Tuesday, Feb. 22, 16^^, it is stated: 

" The diifereuces between- the two Uonses, concerning 
the judgment of the Teers agaiust the East India Com- 
pany, were compromised by the meiUation of his Majesty. 
The proccedingi against the Coinpanv .igreed to be raxed 
out of the Journals." 

This corroborates the adjustment of the differ- 

* AJJ placM in the oti^hhovuhaoa of Alderley Edge 
^. Mobberhr. 

cnocs between tlie two Houses; and tb 
and all relative to the controversy hav 
exfiungeJ from the JotirnHls, it is obv 
there would not be any occasion for a re 
tion of the matter, os a precedent. Iw 

BuHSET's MSS. (2™" S. X. 103.)— Tl 
script of Burnet's Own Time was not ] 
by the late venerable Dr. Routh, bu( 
Bundinel for the Bodleian Library, wfa 
still safely preserved. 

KoBEHT IlfiVBICK (■2-' S. X. 102.) — B 

NtcHOLs Sitys : " This epistolary bnllsd 
dressed, I imagine, to tlio eldest son c 
Heyriek of Leicester, who is left namele 

1:3 the nbove Robert the author of Bob 
rick's Pttenif f " bom in the year 1591, i 
to an advanced age, although the exact ti 
dentil has not been correctly ascerUiiiie) 
rick's works are dated 1647, 1648, and r 
bably published shortly after he was ejec 
his vicara<;e, and had resumed hi^ lay titl< 
editor of the lielroApeclice Review speak 
in the highest praise : — 

" We do not hesitate to prori' ' j the 

of English Lj-iic Pot tjj. lie i* t ^as 

someofbarda; finging, like the j^r isi 

never grow old. He is as fresh a^i the epring, 
OS surnlner, and as ripe as autumn. We kn 
English poet who is so abamtonnif, as tl 'V 
who BO wholly gives himself up to Ii i 
who is so much heart and soul in wi 
this not on one subject only, bat on all ,>ubjt 
The spirit of song dances in bis veins, and flutte 
hia lips — now bareting into the jovful and b«i 
of the Epicurean; sometimes breathing forth at 
Si the sigh of 'bulled love.'" 

He goes on, but concludes thus : — 

" And as for his versification, it praesi 
moat varied specimeus of rhythmical liai 
language, flowing with an almost woadi 

Reference (about Robert Ilerrick) 
Nichols's History of Leiceiterthirt, 
Drake's Liternry IIourM. W ~ 

r.S. Perhaps Mb. Nichols can inl 
reason why Uerrick wns ejected from 

Mahsbal Due i>K Bebwick (>2*' 
The ariuB granted by .Tames II. to 
sons are piven by .Saudfbrd, in his Oen 
Uistory i>f the Kiu/^x and Queen* of 1 
Thus, James, Duke of Brunswick : the ro 
within a Ixjrdurc coui])ony ^ules nnd , 
charged with liuns of Engian*!, the i 
de-Iys of France. Crest, on a eha 
turned up ermine, n dragon nassant ai^ 
with a collar iiz. charged with tliree 
or. Supporters; de.ttcr, a iinicorn 
tired or., collared nnd chained azi 

> a X. Skit. 1. '60.] 



cliar^ with three fleurs-de-lvB or ; tinistcr, a 
•Iragon irul«s, collared and cLnincl or, the collar 
ehsrgtil with three lleurs-de-ljr*, uz, 

Heiirjr rilzjarnts: the roynl nrms with a baton 
ninijtcr az. cbnrgeil with three lleurs-de-lys. Crest, 
im a chnpenii Sfiile», turned up ermine, a seii-hor«e 
arjiiTil. gorjreil with a collar, azure, charged %Tith 
thrfc tieurs-de-lyB, or. 

}J)it liy a subsequent waiTant the colour of the 
»ca-hiirre was altered to "jiriipcr." Sondford 
gi^ cs aa his authority MSS. by E. Mnrsb in Cull. 
Anu. W. K. K. I3K»foBi>, 

Suttoa Col.llield. 

fiurlcc's General Arnioiiri/, 1860, gives 
** t'Hx Jainea (as bome by Jamej Fitz Jaoies, Duke t>( 
IWnIck, the celcbrited Manhnl of Frnnce, the natural 
*pii of King Jaa. II.) The rornl arra* of France iibJ Eng- 
lanj. quarierl^r, with Scotland ami Ireland, all withio n 
hordar* cnmpony gu. and at , the ga. chnrgeil with lion 
of HngUod, anil the az. with (leur-dc-lv9 of Frnnce." 

P.. J. F. 
Leiubton Familt (2'* S. x. 108.) — A family 
[nf that surname is livin;j at Thornes, nenr Wake- 

I field. One of tlie family, Reuben or Joseph, is 
the landlord of the village inn there, wbicli when 

I I Was a boy had tlie poi trait of a bishop for Its 
j •«gt». I parsed it the other day, but the sign lind 
'l^n repainted, and the old bishop obliternted, 

^^e name only lieing left. J. Eastwood. 


T»8 LoHi> Admiral Seymour? {i" 8.x. 110.) I 
— "The verses upon the picture probably show 
*'>•* the portrait is not that of the Protector, but ! 
i *f his brother the Lord Admiral. Their features i 
[ ^CT« different, and arc easily distinguisfae<1. But 
■*« not the first time that their portraits have been 
••••itaken. In theGfnf/««rt7r*3/fl;(»-«rinff for January 
1<>C15 appeared without a naiuo an engraving from 
'picture in the possession of Charles H. Robinson, 
"•q., of Hill Kidware, near Lti^lifiuld. In March ' 
••'lowing, p. 220., this waa assigned to the Duke 
"*" Somerset ; nnd in August, p. 697., to the Earl 
► pf Lennox, father of Henry Lord Dnrnley the 
1 ""^band of Mary Queen of Scntg. It is, however, , 
l^ally ^ portrait of 'I'hoiniw Lord Seymour of . 
'bley, the Lord High Admiral, as will bo seen 
Eoomparison with Lodge's Jilunlriouji Portrnitg ^ 
■ otht-r engravings ; and from tlic lines denoted 
the print as being inscribed in the background 1 
'^t of which no copy is given), I have little ! 
^ubi it was a duplicate of the picture described | 
'' &Ib. ALI.B.N, with the sonnet composed by Sir | 
Tn Ilaringion, if not the aaiue picture removed , 
'It IliJl Kidware to Ilodnet. 

Joiix GocGU Nichols, i 

Sn Jons Gateb (2"* S. x. 128.) — Sir John | 

*yer (or Gayre), citizen and fishmonger of Lon- 

*, w»8 Prime-warden of that Company in 16S8; I 

*^ barisg sertred the office of Sherffi* of London | 


and Middlesex in 1635, he became Lord Klavor in 

During his Mayoralty, King Charles I. having 
beei» brought to Hampton Court, and the army 
being in the immediate neighbourhood of London, 
the Parliament, overawed by military influence, 
determined to prd^eed agamst those who had 
taken nn active part in opposition to the growing 
power of the army ; and Serjt. Glyn, the Rc' 
cnrder of London, was deprived of his office ; Sir 
John Gayer, Lord Mayor of London, with four 
aldermen — Adams, Langham, Culbam, and Hunco 
— were impeached and commilled to the Tower ; 
and the Earls of Lincoln, Suffolk, and Middlesex, 
with Lords Willoughby of Parham, Berkley, Huns- 
don, and Maynard, and Sir Jno. Maynard, were 
also impeached of treason. 

The Lord Mayor an<l Aldermen were charged 
with the riotous conduct of the young men and 
apprentices of London, who, on the 26th July, 
came and petitioned Parliaqient in a tumultuous 
inantier, and compelled both Houses to grant their 

1 do not know if Sir John Gayer continued a 
prisoner until May in the fnllowing 3-ear ; but on 
the 23rd of that month the citizens of London 
petitioned Parliament for the release of the im- 
prisoned citizens, who. Sir Richard Baker says, 
were Aldermen Langham ami Bunce, and Sent. 
Glyn, the Recorder; to which the Commons readily 
consented, " for they becauie very well inclined 
to make peace with the King now they were freed 
from the insolency of the army by their distance 
from them." 

The arms of Sir John Gayer were : Ermine, a 
tleur>de-lis and a chief sable. Probably he was 
buried at St. Ciitherine Cree church, but I have 
not Strypc's edition of Stow, nor Mailland, at hand 
to refer to. 

In 1696, a Sir John Gayer was General of the 
East India Company's affairs at Bomliay. 

Robert Gayer, whose will is dated 15tn January, 
164ti, was also a Fishmonger and a benefactor to 
the poor of that Company. He was probably a 
brother or near connexion of Sir John's. 

I find also, in Lysons's Environs of London (vol, 
iv. p. 94.), that Elizabeth, wife of Robert Gayer, 
Esq. (son of Sir Robert Gayer, Knt.), wa? buried 
in toe churchyard of Barking, Essex, in 1 74-2. 

Geo. K. C'orjjeb. 

Ride ti. Dbivk (2"* S. x. 5i>-) — I^fnny thanks 
to your correspondent \V. C. fur reminiling me 
that many expressions to be found in our Autho- 
rised Version of the Bible are now vulgarisms. 
These, however, are, 1 believe, for the most part 
such as sound to modern ears indelicate. The 
word " wench," which he (juotes, and which, ac- 
cording to Cruden's Concordance, occurs but once 
(2 Sam. xvii. 17.), is an instance in point. This 
word, which « still used uv \V» orv\g«\t\ *«.-B*>i «»t 



" a younn woman " in mnny parts of England by 
per?nn3 who, though in hiimhlc station, nro not 
thcrelbre necessarily vutijar, hft<l acijuireJ, even 
before tho time of the Spectator, a menning equi- 
valent to that of another nnun -with the same 
initial, which no gentleman -would utter in a lady's 
drawing-room, although it 0<Sur3 frequently in 
the Authorised version, nud even in one of the 
Sunday Le»sou». I mij^ht send W. C. to John- 
son's Dictionary under the words " Ride," " Rider," 
" Kiding-habit," and Riding-hood," and aak why 
we talk of " riding on horseback " ; but perhaps 
he will allow me to ask him, instead of doinf; this, 
the two following questions : — 1. Might I say, 
in a lady's drawing-room, that " I had driven from 
Bayswater to Charing Cross in an omnibus " ? Or 
if it would be a vulgarism to acknowledge that I 
had travelled in an omnibus, might I, without in- 
curring the imputation of vulgarity, remark, that 
the railway carriage, which brought me to town 
from Edinburgh, haying been newly painted, 
Though very handsome to look at, was very un- 
coujfortuble to rWe ih / Sf.xescess. 

Flotd, Joiik, tub Jescit (2°^ S. ix. 13. 55. 
112, 151.) — Aroon" a nximbcr of works written 
by Jt.'$uit7 mentioned in llieurr/'/ of the Parliament 
of Paris of 6tli August, 17C'i, as having been the 
subject of denonciatioiis, cenxura, &.c~, by the Ulil- 
versilios, archbishops, bishops, nnd prornicial and 
general assemblies of the clergy of France, and by 
some popes, are the following : — 

"20 Novembre, 1643, ponire quatre cents de JtaH 
FloyJt, da Itt dite Socie't(?(dc JcSsu), intitnl^: le premier, 
Hermani Ltomr.lii tpongui; le secaiiil, Qarn'monia ICcclt- 
si» AopKeana ; ]e troiiiikine. Appendix nd Ultislritiimum 
Dominum Arehitpuecpum Pariaensem ; ]<< quatrittmo. De- 
fmno Dtcrrti." — p. 354. vol. xiii. oftlic Iteentil Clenhnl 
dtt AneicHHiM Z-oit de iraaicr, l>j- Isamlxrt, &c. Paris. 


VJlle- Marie, Canada. 

Maqsetic Declwatios. (i"** S. x. 6-2. 131.) — 
Besides the fact of magnetic variation, there is 
that of (he cxisleoce of a magnetic pole ; which, 
three or four years ago, a naval captain ascer- 
tained to be then at 70° N. lat. and 97" W. long. 
The subject of the ignorant fixing of the vanes, to 
which J. O. N. 11 calls Attention, is really of con- 
:;iderable interest. It does not, after ail, require 
much science to direct the vane due N. with the 
exactest nicety. For example, it is a simple pro- 
blem enough to draw a meridian line; the right 
angles to which are of course N. and S. It is a 
pity, therefore, that the public should be, as your 
correspondt.'nt alleges, frequently misled by mdi- 
cators which are generally taken for granted to be 
mathematically correct. Jons Wu-Liams. 

Amo's Court. 

" Where is the north P" Though such an old 
question may excite a smile, yet as the roses are 

not to be atfecled by the magnetic variati( 
J. O. N. R. or other student "• -"-'■ - >" 
a pluiii rule by which any ai 
cardinal poin