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"When found, make a note of."- CAPTAIN CUTTL*. 

NOVEMBER, 1849 MAY, 1850. 





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'"When found, make a note of." CAPTAIN CUTTLE. 

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THE nature and design of the present work 
have been so fully stated in the Prospectus, 
and are indeed so far explained by its very 
Title, that it is unnecessary to occupy any 
great portion of its first number with details 
on the subject. We are under no temptation 
to fill its columns with an account of what we 
hope future numbers will be. Indeed, we 
would rather give a specimen than a de- 
scription ; and only regret that, from the wide 
range of subjects which it is intended to 
embrace, and the correspondence and contri- 
butions of various kinds which we are led to 
expect, even this can only be done gradually. 
A few words of introduction and explanation 
may, however, be allowed ; and, indeed, ought 
to be prefixed, that we may be understood,.by 
those readers who have not seen our Pro- 

a most admirable rule ; and if the excellent 
Captain had never uttered another word, he 
might have passed for a profound philosopher. 
It is a rule which should shine in gilt letters 
on the gingerbread of youth, and the specta- 
cle-case of age. Every man who reads with 
any view beyond mere pastime, knows the 
value of it. Every one, more or less, acts 
upon it. Every one regrets and suffers who 

neglects it. There is some trouble in it, to be 
sure ; but in what good thing is there not ? 
and what trouble does it save ! Nay, what 
mischief! Half the lies that are current 
in the world owe their origin to a misplaced 
confidence in memory, rather than to inten- 
tional falsehood. We have never known more 
than one man who could deliberately and con- 
scientiously say that his memory had never 
deceived him ; and he (when he saw that he 
had excited the surprise of his hearers, espe- 
cially those who knew how many years he had 
spent in the management of important com- 
mercial affairs) used to add, because he had 
never trusted it ; but had uniformly written 
down what he was anxious to remember. 

But, on the other hand, it cannot be denied 
that reading and writing men, of moderate 
industry, who act on this rule for any con- 
siderable length of time, will accumulate a 
good deal of matter in various forms, shapes, 
and sizes some more, some less legible and 
intelligible some unposted in old pocket 
books some on whole or half sheets, or mere 
scraps of paper, and backs of letters some, 
lost sight of and forgotten, stuffing out old 
portfolios, or getting smoky edges in bundles 
tied up with faded tape. There are, we are 
quite sure, countless boxes and drawers, and 
pigeon-holes of such things, which want look- 
ing over, and would well repay the trouble. 




[No. 1. 

Nay, we are sure that the proprietors would 
find themselves much benefited even if we 
were to do nothing more than to induce them 
to look over their own collections. How 
much good might we have done (as well as 
got, for we do not pretend to speak quite dis- 
interestedly), if we had had the looking over 
and methodizing of the chaos in which Mr. 
Oldbuck found himself just at the moment, so 
agonizing to an author, when he knows that 
the patience of his victim is oozing away, and 
fears it will be quite gone before he can lay 
his hand on the charm which is to fix him a 
hopeless listener: "So saying, the Anti- 
quary opened a drawer, and began rummaging 
among a quantity of miscellaneous papers, 
ancient and modern. But it was the misfor- 
tune of this learned gentleman, as it may be 
that of many learned and unlearned, that he 
frequently experienced on such occasions, 
what Harlequin calls Vembarras des richesses 
in other words, the abundance of his col- 
lection often prevented him from finding the 
article he sought for." We need not add that 
this unsuccessful search, for Professor Mac- 
Cribb's epistle, and the scroll of the Anti- 
quary's answer, was the unfortunate turning- 
point on which the very existence of the 
documents depended, and that from that day 
to this nobody has seen them, or known 
where to look for them. 

But we hope for more extensive and im- 
portant benefits, than these from furnishing a 
medium by which much valuable information 
may become a sort of common property 
among those who can appreciate and use it. 
We do not anticipate any holding back 
by those whose " NOTES" are most worth 
having, or any want of "QUERIES" from 
those best able to answer them. Whatever 
may be the case in other things, it is certain 
that those who are best informed are gene- 
rally the most ready to communicate know- 
ledge and to confess ignorance, to feel the 
value of such a work as we are attempting, anc 
to understand that if it is to be well done 

;hey must help to do it. Some cheap and 
requent means for the interchange of thought 
s certainly wanted by those who are engaged 
n literature, art, and science, and we only 
lope to persuade the best men in all, that we 
)ffer them the best medium of communication 
with each other. 

By this time, we hope, our readers are pre- 
mred to admit that our title (always one of 
,he most difficult points of a book to settle), 
las not been imprudently or unwisely adopted. 
We wish to bring together the ideas and the 
wants, not merely of men engaged in the 
same lines of action or inquiry, but also (and 
very particularly) of those who are going dif- 
"erent ways, and only meet at the crossings, 
where a helping hand is oftenest needed, and 
they would be happy to give one if they knew 
it was wanted. In this way we desire that 
our little book should take " NOTES," and 
be a medley of all that men are doing that 
the Notes of the writer and the reader, what- 
ever be the subject-matter of his studies, of 
the antiquary, and the artist, the man of 
science, the historian, the herald, and the ge- 
nealogist, in short, Notes relating to all sub- 
jects but such as are, in popular discourse, 
termed either political or polemical, should 
meet in our columns in such juxta-position, 
as to give fair play to any natural attraction 
or repulsion between them, and so that if 
there are any hooks and eyes among them, 
they may catch each other. 

Now, with all modesty, we submit, that for 
the title of such a work as we have in view, 
and have endeavoured to describe, no word 
could be so proper as " NOTES." Can any man, 
in his wildest dream of imagination, conceive 
of any thing that may not be nay, that has 
not been treated of in a note ? Thousands 
of things there are, no doubt, which cannot 
be sublimed into poetry, or elevated into his- 
tory, or treated of with dignity, in a stilted 
text of any kind, and which are, as it is, 
called, "thrown" into notes; but, after all, 
they are much like children sent out of the 

Nov. 3. 1849.] 


stiff drawing-room into the nursery, snubbed 
to be sure by the act, but joyful in the free- 
dom of banishment. We were going to say 
(but it might sound vain-glorious), where do 
things read so well as in notes ? but we will 
put the question in another form : Where do 
you so well test an author's learning and 
knowledge of his subject ? where do you find 
the pith of his most elaborate researches? 
where do his most original suggestions escape ? 
where do you meet with the details that fix 
your attention at the time and cling to your 
memory for ever? where do both writer and 
reader luxuriate so much at their ease, and 

feel that they are wisely discursive? But 

if we pursue this idea, it will be scarcely 
possible to avoid something which might look 
like self-praise ; and we content ourselves for 
the present with expressing our humble con- 
viction that we are doing a service to writers 
and readers, by calling forth materials which 
they have themselves thought worth notice, 
but which, for want of elaboration, and the 
"little leisure" that has not yet come, are 
lying, and may lie for ever, unnoticed by 
others, and presenting them in an un- 
adorned multum-in-parvo form. To our 
readers therefore who are seeking for Truth, 
we repeat " When found make a NOTE 
of;" and we must add, "till then make a 


20th October, 1 849. 

Mr. Editor, Mr. Macaulay's account of the 
Battle of Sedgemoor is rendered singularly 
picturesque and understandable by the per- 
sonal observation and local tradition which 
he has brought to bear upon it. Might not 
his account of the capture of Monmouth de- 
rive some few additional life-giving touches, 
from the same invaluable sources of inform- 
ation ? It is extremely interesting, as every 
thing adorned by Mr. Macaulay's luminous 
style must necessarily be, but it lacks a little 

of that bright and living reality, which, in 
the account of Sedgemoor, and in many other 
parts of the book, are imparted by minute 
particularity and precise local knowledge. 
It runs as follows : 

" On Cranbourne Chase the strength of the horses 
failed. They were therefore turned loose. The 
bridles and saddles were concealed. Monmouth 
and his friends disguised themselves as country- 
men, and proceeded on foot towards the New 
Forest. They passed the night in the open air : 
but before morning they were surrounded on every 
side. ... At five in the morning of the seventh, 
Grey was seized by two of Lumley's scouts. ... It 
could hardly be doubted that the chief rebel was 
not far off. The pursuers redoubled their vigi- 
lance and activity. The cottages scattered over 
the heathy country on the boundaries of Dorset- 
shire and Hampshire were strictly examined by 
Lumley ; and the clown with whom Monmouth 
had changed clothes was discovered. Portman 
came with a strong body of horse and foot to assist 
in the search. Attention was soon drawn to a 
place well suited to shelter fugitives. It was an 
extensive tract of land separated by an inclo- 
sure from the open country, and divided by nu- 
merous hedges into small fields. In some of these 
fields the rye, the pease, and the oats were high 
enough to conceal a man. Others were overgrown 
by fern and brambles. A poor woman reported 
that she had seen two strangers lurking in this 
covert. The near prospect of reward animated 
the zeal of the troops. . . . The outer fence was 
strictly guarded : the space within was examined 
with indefatigable diligence ; and several dogs of 
quick scent were turned out among the bushes. 
The day closed before the search could be com- 
pleted: but careful watch was kept all night. 
Thirty times the fugitives ventured to look through 
the outer hedge : but everywhere they found a 
sentinel on the alert: once they were seen and 
fired at ; they then separated and concealed them- 
selves in different hiding places. 

" At sunrise the next morning the search re- 
commenced, and Buyse was found. He owned 
that he had parted from the Duke only a few hours 
before. The corn and copsewood were now beaten 
with more care than ever. At length a gaunt 
figure was discovered hidden in a ditch. The 
pursuers sprang on their prey. Some of them 
were about to ure ; but Portman forbade all vio- 
lence. The prisoner's dress was that of a shep- 
herd ; his beard, prematurely grey, was of several 
days' growth. He trembled greatly, and was un- 
able to speak. Even those who had often seen 
him were at first in doubt whether this were the 
brilliant and graceful Monmouth. His pockets 
were searched by Portman, and in them were 
found, among some raw pease gathered in the rage 


[No. 1. 

of hunger, a watch, a purse of gold, a small treatise 
on fortification, an album filled with songs, re- 
ceipts, prayers, and charms, and the George with 
which, many years before, King Charles the Second 
had decorated his favourite son." Hist. Eng. i. 
pp. 616618. 2nd edition. 

Now, this is all extremely admirable. It 
is a brilliant description of an important his- 
torical incident. But on what precise spot did 
it take place ? One would like to endeavour 
to realise such an event at the very place 
where it occurred, and the historian should 
enable us to do so. I believe the spot is very 
well known, and that the traditions of the neigh- 
bourhood upon the subject are still vivid. It 
was near Woodyate's Inn, a well-known road- 
side inn, a few miles from Salisbury, on the road 
to Blandford, that the Duke and his compa- 
nions turned adrift their horses. From thence 
they crossed the country in almost a due 
southerly direction. The tract of land in 
which the Duke took refuge is rightly de- 
scribed by Mr. Macaulay, as "separated by an 
inclosure from the open country." Its nature 
is no less clearly indicated by its local name 
of " The Island." The open down which sur- 
rounds it is called Shag's Heath. The Island 
is described as being about a mile and a half 
from Woodlands, and in the parish of Horton, 
in Dorsetshire. The field in which the Duke 
concealed himself is still called "Monmouth 
Close." It is at the north-eastern extremity of 
the Island. An ash-tree, at the foot of which 
the would-be-king was found crouching in a 
ditch and half hid under the fern, was standing 
a few years ago, and was deeply indented with 
the carved initials of crowds of persons who 
had been to visit it. Mr. Macaulay has men- 
tioned that the fields were covered it was 
the eighth of July with standing crops of 
rye, pease, and oats. In one of them, a field of 
pease, tradition tells us that the Duke dropped 
a gold snuff-box. It was picked up some time 
afterwards by a labourer, who carried it to 
Mrs. Uvedale of Horton, probably the pro- 
prietor of the field, and received in reward 
fifteen pounds, which was said to be half its 
value. On his capture, the Duke was first 
taken to the house of Anthony Etterick, Esq., 
a magistrate who resided at Holt, which adjoins 
Horton. Tradition, which records the popular 
feeling rather than the fact, reports, that the 
poor woman who informed the pursuers that 

she had seen two strangers lurking in the 
Island her name was Amy Farrant never 
prospered afterwards; and that Henry Parkin, 
the soldier, who, spying the skirt of the smock- 
frock which the Duke had assumed as a dis- 
guise, recalled the searching party just as 
they were leaving the Island, burst into tears 
and reproached himself bitterly for his fatal 

It is a defect in the Ordnance Survey, that 
neither the Island nor Monmouth Close is 
indicated upon it by name. 

I know not, Mr. Editor, whether these par- 
ticulars are of the kind which you design to 
print as " NOTES." If they are so, and you 
give them place in your miscellany, be good 
enough to add a ' QUERY " addressed to your 
Dorsetshire correspondents, as to whether the 
ash-tree is now standing, and what is the 
actual condition of the spot at the present time. 
The facts I have stated are partly derived 
from the book known as Addison's Anecdotes, 
vol. iv. p. 12. 1794, 8vo. They have been 
used, more or less, by the late Rev. P. Hall, 
in his Account of Ringwood, and by Mr. 
Roberts, in his Life of Monmouth. 

With the best of good wishes for the suc- 
cess of your most useful periodical, 
Believe me, Mr. Editor, 

Yours very truly, 



In "The Life of Shakespeare/' prefixed to 
the edition of his Works I saw through the 
press three or four years ago, I necessarily 
entered into the deer-stealing question, ad- 
mitting that I could not, as some had done, 
" entirely discredit the story," and following 
it up by proof (in opposition to the assertion 
of Malone), that Sir Thomas Lucy had deer, 
which Shakespeare might have been con- 
cerned in stealing. I also, in the same place 
(vol. i. p. xcv.), showed, from several autho- 
rities, how common and how venial offence 
it was considered in the middle of the reign 
of Elizabeth. Looking over some MSS. of 
that time, a few weeks since, I met with a 
very singular and confirmatory piece of evi- 
dence, establishing that in the year 1585, the 
precise period when our great dramatist is 
supposed to have made free with the deer of 

Nov. 3. 1849.] 


the knight of Charlcote, nearly all the cooks'- 
shops and ordinaries of London were supplied 
with stolen venison. The following letter 
from the lord mayor (which I copy from the 
original) of that day, Thomas Pullyson, to 
secretary Walsingham, speaks for itself, and 
shows that the matter had been deemed of 
so much importance as to call for the inter- 
position of the Privy Council : the city autho- 
rities were required to take instant and arbi- 
trary measures for putting an end to the con- 
sumption of venison and to the practice of 
deer-stealing, by means of which houses, &c. 
of public resort in London were furnished 
with that favourite viand. The letter of the 
lord mayor was a speedy reply to a communi- 
cation from the queen's ministers on the 
subject : 

" Right honorable, where yesterday I receaved 
letters from her Ma tel most honorable privie 
councill, advertisinge me that her highnes was 
enformed that Venison ys as ordinarilie sould by 
the Cookes of London as other flesh, to the greate 
distruction of the game. Commaundinge me therby 
to take severall bondes of xl u the peece of all the 
Cookes in London not to buye or sell any venison 
hereafter, uppon payne of forfay ture of the same 
bondes ; neyther to receave any venison to bake 
without keepinge a note of theire names that shall 
deliver the same unto them. Whereuppon pre- 
sentlie I called the Wardens of the Cookes before 
me, advertisinge them hereof, requiringe them to 
cause theire whole company to appeare before me, 
to thende I might take bondes accordinge to a 
condition hereinclosed sent to your Ho.; whoe 
answered that touchinge the first clause therof 
they were well pleased therewith, but for the latter 
clause they thought yt a greate inconvenience 
to theire companie, and therefore required they 
might be permitted to make theire answeres, and 
alledge theire reasons therof before theire honors. 
Affirmed alsoe, that tfce Tablinge howses and Ta- 
vernes are greater .receyvors and destroyers of 
stollen venison than all the rest of the Cittie : 
wherefore they craved that eyther they maye be 
likewise bounden, or els authoritie maye be geven 
to the Cookes to searche for the same hereafter. 
I have therefore taken bondes of the wardens for 
theire speedy appearance before theire honors to 
answere the same ; and I am bolde to pray your 
Ho. to imparte the same unto theire Ho., and that 
I maye with speede receyve theire further direction 
herein. And soe I humbly take my leave. London, 
the xj th of June, 1585. 

" Your honors to commaunde, 

I dare say that the registers of the Privy 
Council contain some record of what was done 
on the occasion, and would enable us to de- 
cide whether the very reasonable request of 
the Cooks of London had been complied with. 
Whether this be or be not so, the above 
document establishes beyond question that in 
the summer of 1585 cooks'-shops, tabling- 
houses (i. e. ordinaries), and taverns were 
abundantly supplied with stolen venison, and 
that the offence of stealing it must have been 
very common. 


Kensington, Oct. 26. 1849. 


WHEN the great popularity which the legends 
of the Saints formerly enjoyed is considered, 
it becomes matter of surprise that they should 
not have been more frequently consulted for 
illustrations of our folk-lore and popular ob- 
servances. The Edinburgh Reviewer of Mrs. 
Jameson's Sacred and Legendary Art, has, 
with great judgment, extracted from that work 
a legend, in which, as he shows very clearly *, 
we have the real, although hitherto unnoticed, 
origin of the Three Balls which still form the 
recognised sign of a Pawnbroker. The pas- 
sage is so curious, that it should be trans- 
ferred entire to the " NOTES AND QUERIES." 

" None of the many diligent investigators of 
our popular antiquities have yet traced home the 
three golden balls of our pawnbrokers to the em- 
blem of St. Nicholas. They have been properly 
enough referred to the Lombard merchants, who 
were the first to open loan-shops in England for 
the relief of temporary distress. But the Lom- 
bards had merely assumed an emblem which had 
been appropriated to St. Nicholas, as their cha- 
ritable predecessor in that very line of business. 
The following is the legend ; and it is too prettily 
told to be omitted : 

" * Now in that city (Panthera) there dwelt a 
certain nobleman, who had three daughters, and, 
from being rich, he became poor; so poor that 
there remained no means of obtaining food for his 
daughters but by sacrificing them to an infamous 
life ; and oftentimes it came into his mind to tell 
them so, but shame and sorrow held him dumb. 
Meantime the maidens wept continually, not know- 
ing what to do, and not having bread to eat ; and 

* Edinburgh Review, vol. Ixxxix. p. 400. 


[No. 1, 

their father became more and more desperate. 
When Nicholas heard of this, he thought it shame 
that such a thing should happen in a Christian 
land: therefore one night, when the maidens were 
asleep, and their father alone sat watching and 
weeping he took a handful of gold, and, tying it 
up in a handkerchief, he repaired to the dwelling 
of the poor man. He considered how he might 
bestow it without making himself known ; and, 
while he stood irresolute, the moon coming from 
behind a cloud showed him a window open ; so he 
threw it in, and it fell at the feet of the father, 
who, when he found it, returned thanks, and with 
it he portioned his eldest daughter. A second 
time Nicholas provided a similar sum, and again 
he threw it in by night ; and with it the nobleman 
married his second daughter. But he greatly de- 
sired to know who it was that came to his aid ; 
therefore he determined to watch : and when the 
good Saint came for the third time, and prepared 
to throw in the third portion, he was discovered, 
for the nobleman seized him by the skirt of his 
robe, and flung himself at his feet, saying, " O 
Nicholas ! servant of God ! why seek to hide thy- 
self?" and he kissed his feet and his hands. But 
Nicholas made him promise that he would tell no 
man. And many other charitable works did 
Nicholas perform in his native city.' 

" These three purses of gold, or, as they are more 
customarily figured, these three golden balls, dis- 
posed in exact pawnbroker fashion, are to this day 
the recognised special emblem of the charitable 
St. Nicholas." 

And now for the more immediate object of 
the present Note, which is to show what, 
when once pointed out, will, I think, readily 
be admitted, namely, that in the grotto 
formed of oyster shells, and lighted with a 
votive candle, to which, on old St. James's 
day (5th August) the passer-by is earnestly 
entreated to contribute by cries of, "Pray 
remember the Grotto ! " we have a memorial 
of the world-renowned shrine of St. James at 

The popularity which St. James formerly 
enjoyed in England, and the zeal with which 
his shrine was visited by natives of this coun- 
try, have recently been so clearly shown by 
Mr. J. G. Nichols, in his interesting little 
volume, Pilgrimages to St. Mary of Wai- 
singham and St. Thomas of Canterbury, that 
I need not here insist upon these points. 

What the original object of making these 
grottoes may have been I can only suggest : 
but I shall not be surprised if it should turn 
out that they were formerly erected on the 

anniversary of St. James by poor persons, as 
an invitation to the pious who could not visit 
Compostella, to show their reverence for the 
Saint by almsgiving to their needy brethren. 
Oysters are only allowed to be sold in Lon- 
don (which city, by the by, levied a tax of 
two pence on every person going and return- 
ing by the river Thames on pilgrimage to the 
shrine of St. James), after St. James's day. 
Why is this? I wish Mr.Wansey, who is an 
able antiquary, and one authorised to look into 
the records of the Fishmongers' Company, 
would give us the information upon this point 
which those documents may be expected to 


p.S. I should be glad if any of the 
readers of " NOTES AND QUEKTES " could ex- 
plain to what Erasmus alludes, when he 
says, "culmeis ornatus torquibus, brachium 
habet ova serpentum," which L'Estrange trans- 
lates, "Straw- works, snakes, eggs for brace- 
lets;" and Mr. Nichols, who honestly states 
that he is unable to explain the allusion, as 
he does not find such emblems elsewhere 
mentioned, "adorned with straw necklaces 
and bracelets of serpents' eggs." 


Amongst the objects of the useful medium 
of literary communication afforded by the 
publication of " NOTES AND QUERIES," one 
appears to be a record of the casual notice of 
" some book or some edition, hitherto unknown 
or imperfectly described." I am induced 
therefore to inquire, whether the existence 
of an ancient MS. volume of Chronicles, which 
I have recently noticed in the little library 
adjoining Reigate Church, is already known 
to those who investigate our monastic annals ? 
This volume may probably not have escaped 
their research, especially since the republica- 
tion and extension of Wharton's Collections 
have been recently proposed. A chronological 
series of chronicles relating to the see of 
Canterbury was announced amongst the pro- 
jected publications of the " Anglia Christiana 

The Reigate library, of which brief mention 

Nov. 3. 1849.] 


is made in Manning's and Bray's History of 
Surrey (vol. i. p. 314.) without any notice of 
its contents, is preserved in the upper chamber 
of a building on the north side of the chancel, 
erected in 1513, and designated as a "vesti- 
bulum " in a contemporary inscription. The 
collection is small, and amongst the most in- 
teresting volumes is a small folio, in the 
original oaken boards covered with white 
leather, presented to the library, 7 June, 
1701, by William Jordan, of Gatwick, in the 
adjacent parish of Charlwood, probably the 
same person who was member for the borough 
of Reigate in 1717. Of previous possessors of 
the book nothing is recorded. It comprises 
several concise chronicles, which may be thus 
described : 

1. "CathologusRomanorum Pontificum:" 
imperfect, commencing with fol. 1 1 ; some 
leaves also lost at the end. It closes with the 
year 1359, in the times of Innocent VI. 

2. " De Imperatoribus Romanis : " from 
Julius Caesar to the election and coronation 
of Charles IV. after the death of the emperor 
Lewis of Bavaria, and the Battle of Cressy, 
in 1347. 

3. " Compilacio cronicorum de diversis ar- 
chiepiscopis ecclesie Cantuariensis : " the 
chronicle of Stephen Birchington, a monk of 
Canterbury, printed by Wharton, from a MS. 
in the Lambeth collection. The text varies 
in many particulars, which may be of minor 
moment, but deserve collation. The writing 
varies towards the close, as if the annals had 
been continued at intervals ; and they close 
with the succession of Archbishop William 
de Witleseye, in 1368, as in the text printed 
by Wharton (Anglia Sacra, voLi. pp.1 48.). 

4. "De principio mundi, et etatibus ejus- 
dem. De insulis et civitatibus Anglic:" 
forming a sort of brief preface to the following 
"Hie incipit Bruto de gestis Anglorum." 
The narrative begins with a tale of a certain 
giant king of Greece, in the year 3009, who 
had thirty daughters : the eldest, Albina, gave 
her name to Albion. The history is continued 
to the accession of William Rufus. 

5. " Incipit cronica de adquisicione Regni 
Anglie per Willelmum Ducem Normannorum," 
&c. closing in 1354, with the birth of Edward 
>t' Kngolesme, eldest son of the Black Prince. 
Wharton speaks of " Historian de regibus An- 
glorum, de Pontificibus Romanis, et de Ira- 

peratoribus Romanis," as found together with 
the chronicle of the archbishopsof Canterbury ; 
both in the Lambeth MS. and in another for- 
merly in the possession of William Reede, 
Bishop of Chichester : and he was inclined to 
attribute the whole to the pen of Birchington. 

6. " Gesta Scotorum contra Anglicos : " 
commencing in 1066, with the times of Mal- 
colm, king of Scotland, and ending in 1346, 
with the capture of David II., and the cala- 
mitous defeat of the Scots near Durham. 

At the commencement of the volume are 
found some miscellaneous writings of less in- 
teresting character. I noticed, however, an 
entry relating to the foundation of a chapel 
at " Ocolte," now written Knockholt, in Kent, 
by Ralph Scot, who had erected a mansion 
remote from the parish church, and obtained 
license for the consecration of the chapel in 
the year 1281, in the time of Archbishop Kil- 

The writing of this MS. appears to be of 
the latter half of the fourteenth century. Pos- 
sibly there may be readers of these " NOTES 
AND QUERIES," more familiar with such in- 
quiries than myself, who may have examined 
other contemporary MSS. of the compilations 
of Stephen Birchington. I shall be thankful 
for any information regarding them, and es- 
pecially as regards the existence of any trans- 
cript of the Canterbury Annals, extended be- 
yond the year 1368, with which this copy as 
well as that used by Wharton closes ; whilst 
he supposes that in the chronicle as cited by 
Jocelin, chaplain to Matthew Parker, they 
had been carried as far as the year 1382. 



It is read in the Newspaper Directory that 
The Morning Chronicle was established in 
1770, The Morning Herald in 1781, -The 
Times, 1st January, 1788. I believe that 
not one of these dates is correct, and that of 
The Morning Herald to be wrong by fifteen 
years or more. Can you, or any of the 
readers of " NOTES AND QUERIES," give me 
the exact dates, or tell me where I can find 
the earlier volumes; say, the first ten, of 
either or all ? 




[No. 1. 


[The suggestions in the following Paper are so 
extremely valuable, that we are not only pleased 
to give it insertion, but hope that our readers 
will take advantage of our columns to carry out 
Dr. Maitland's recommendations.] 

Sir, My attention has been particularly 
engaged by one suggestion in your Prospectus, 
because it seems to hold out a hope that your 
intended work will furnish what has long been 
a desideratum in literature. We really do 
want something that may form a "supple- 
ment to works already in existence a trea- 
sury for enriching future editions of them;" 
while it may also receive (as I have no doubt 
you meant to include,) such contributions of 
moderate extent, as may tend to render fuller 
and more correct some works which have 
little or no chance of future editions. In this 
way you may be of great use in every depart- 
ment of literature ; and especially in works of 
reference. With them, indeed, correctness is 
everything; perfect accuracy is not to be 
attained, and the nearest possible approxima- 
tion to it can be made only by many little 
careful steps, backwards as well as forwards. 
By works of reference, however, I do not 
mean Dictionaries, though I would include 
them, as a class of works for which I have a 
singular respect, and to which my remark 
particularly applies. There are many other 
books, and some which very properly aspire 
to the title of History, which are, in fact and 
practically, books of reference, and of little 
value if they have not the completeness and 
accuracy which should characterise that class 
of works. Now it frequently happens to 
people whose reading is at all discursive, that 
they incidentally fall upon small matters of 
correction or criticism, which are of little 
value to themselves, but would be very useful 
to those who are otherwise engaged, if they 
knew of their existence. 

I might perhaps illustrate this matter by 
referring to various works ; but it happens to 
be more m my way to mention Herbert's edi- 
tion of Ames's Typographical Antiquities. 
U may be hoped that, some day or other, the 
valuable matter of which it consists will be 
reduced to a better form and method for it 
?ems hardly too much to say, that he appears 
to have adopted the very worst that could 

have been selected. I need not tell you that 
I have no idea of undertaking such a thing, 
and I really have no suspicion (I wish I had) 
that anybody else is thinking of doing it : 
or, in other words, I am not attempting to 
make use of your columns by insinuating a 
preparatory puff for a work in progress, or 
even in contemplation. I only mention the 
book as one of a class which may be essen- 
tially benefited by your offering a receptacle 
for illustrations, additions, and corrections, 
such as individually, or in small collections, 
are of little or no value, and are frequently 
almost in the very opposite condition to those 
things which are of no value to any body but 
the owner. For instance, when I was in the 
habit of seeing many of the books noted by 
Herbert, and had his volumes lying beside 
me, I made hundreds, perhaps thousands, of 
petty corrections, and many from books which 
he had not had an opportunity of seeing, and of 
which he could only reprint incorrect descrip- 
tions. All of these, though trifling in them- 
selves, are things which should be noticed in 
case of a reprint ; but how much time and 
trouble would it cost an editor to find and 
collate the necessary books? That, to be 
sure, is his business ; but the question for the 
public is, Would it be done at all ? and could 
it in such cases be done so well in any other 
way, as by appointing some place of rendez- 
vous for the casual and incidental materials 
for improvement which may fall in the way 
of readers pursuing different lines of inquiry, 
and rewarded, as men in pursuit of truth 
always are, whatever may be their success as 
to their immediate object, by finding more 
than they are looking for things, too, which 
when they get into their right places, show 
that they were worth finding and, perhaps, 
unknown to those more conversant with the 
subject to which they belong, just because 
they were in the out-of-the-way place where 
they were found by somebody who was look- 
ing for something else. S. R. MAITLAND. 


T.B.M. will be obliged by references to 
any early instances of the use of the ex- 
pression " Flemish account," and of any 
explanation as to its origin and primarv sig- 

Nov. 3. 1849.] 



Of the various sections into which the his- 
tory of English literature is divisible, there is 
no one in which the absence of collective ma- 
terials is more seriously felt no one in which 
we are more in need of authentic notes, or 
which is more apt to raise perplexing queries 
than that which relates to the authorship 
of anonymous and pseudonymous works. 

The importance of the inquiry is not in- 
ferior to the ardour with which it has some- 
times been pursued, or the curiosity which it 
has excited. On all questions of testimony, 
whether historical or scientific, it is a con- 
sideration of the position and character of the 
writer which chiefly enables us to decide on 
the credibility of his statements, to account 
for the bias of his opinions, and to estimate 
his entire evidence at its just value. The 
remark also applies, in a qualified sense, to 
productions of an imaginative nature. 

On the number of the works of this class, I 
can only hazard a conjecture. In French lite- 
rature, it amounts to about one-third part of 
the whole mass. In English literature, it 
cannot be less than one-sixth part perhaps 
more. Be it as it may, the SYSTEMATIC AR- 
RANGEMENT of all that has been revealed in 
that way, and of all that is discoverable, is 
essential to the perfection of literary history, 
of literary biography, and of bibliography. 

At the present moment, I can only an- 
nounce the project as a stimulus to unem- 
ployed aspirants, and as a hint to fortunate 
collectors, to prepare for an exhibition of 
their cryptic treasures. On a future occasion 
I shall describe the plan of construction which 
seems most eligible shall briefly notice the 
scattered materials which it may be expedient 
to consult, whether in public depositories, or 
in private hands and shall make an appeal 
I to those whose assistance may be required, to 
enable a competent editor to carry out the 
plan with credit and success. 

On the prevalence of anonymous writing, 
on its occasional convenience, and on its per- 
nicious consequences, I shall make no remarks. 
Facts, rather than arguments, should be the 
staple commodity of an instructive miscellany. 


Barnes Terrace, Surrey, 
29th Oct., 1849. 


Many scholars and reading-men are in the 
habit of noting down on the fly-leaves of 
their books memoranda, sometimes critical, 
sometimes bibliographical, the result of their 
own knowledge or research. The following 
are specimens of the kind of Notes to which 
we allude; and the possessors of volumes en- 
riched by the Notes and memoranda of men 
of learning to whom they formerly belonged, 
will render us and our readers a most accept- 
able service by forwarding to us copies of 
them for insertion. 

Douce on John of Salisbury. MS. Note in 
a copy of Policraticus, Lug. Bat. 1639. 

" This extraordinary man flourished in the 
reign of Henry II., and was, therefore, of Old 
Salisbury, not of New Salisbury, which was not 
founded till the reign of Henry III. Having 
had the best education of the time, and being not 
only a genius, but intimate with the most eminent 
men, in particular with Pope Hadrian (who was him- 
self an Englishman), he became at length a bishop, 
and died in 1182. He had perused and studied 
most of the Latin classics, and appears to have de- 
corated every part of his work with splendid frag- 
ments extracted out of them." Harris's Philoso- 
phical Arrangements, p. 457. 

See more relating to John of Salisbury in 
Fabricii, Bib. Med. JEtatis, iv. 380. ; in Tanner, 
Biblioth. Britannico-Hibernica ; in Baillet's 
Jugemens des Savans, ii. 204. See Senebier, 
Catalogue des Manuscrits de Geneve, p. 226. 

"Johannes Sarisb. multa ex Apuleio de- 
sumpsit," Almclooven, Plagiaror. Syllab. 36. ; 
and it might have been justly added, that he 
borrowed from Petronius. See the references 
I have made on the last leaf. 

Janus Dousa, in his Notes on Petronius, 
had called John of Salisbury "Cornicula ;" 
but Thomasius, in p. 240 of his work, De 
Plagio Literario, vindicates him satisfactorily. 
See Lipp. ad. Tacit. Annal XII. (pezzi di 
porpora), not noticed by any editor of Pe- 
tronius. Has various readings. See my old 

Lacrimas commodabat. 

commendabat. Saris, better. 

Itaque cruciarii unius parentes 
cruciati Saris. 

The above is from Zanetti's Collection of 
Italian Noveh, 4 vol. 8vo. Venet. 1754. 
Mezeray, the French historian, translated 



[No. 1. 

this work 1640, 4to; and there is an old 
French translation of it in 1360 by Denis 

The article pasted on the inside of the 
cover (viz. the following extract) 

" Sarisberiensis (/.) Policraticus, 8fC., 8vo, L. 
Bat. 1595 ; very scarce, vellum, 6s. This 
book is of great curiosity ; it is stated in the 
preface that the author, J. of Salisbury, was 
present at the murther of Thomas a BecJtet, 
whose intimate friend he was ; and that * dum 
pius Thomas ab impio milite cedetur in ca- 
pite, Johannishujusbrachiumfere simulper- 
cisum estj " 

is from Lilly's Catalogue, and the passage 
relating to Becket was copied from that of 
Payne, to whom I communicated it, and 
which is found in the first edition only, being 
perhaps purposely omitted in all the others. 

F. D. 

[We believe the majority of the books in 
Mr. Douce's valuable library, now deposited 
in the Bodleian, contain memoranda, like 
those in his John of Salisbury ; and any of 
our Oxford friends could not do us a greater 
service than by communicating other speci- 
mens of the Book-noting of this able and 
zealous antiquary.] 


Mr. Editor, In or about 1756, an ancient 
manuscript in folio, on vellum, was deposited 
in the British Museum by Dr. Seeker, then 
Bishop of Oxford, afterwards Archbishop of 
Canterbury, and still, I take for granted, re- 
mains in that institution. It was intitled 
upon the cover, Liber Sententiarum ; but con- 
tained the Acts and Decisions of the Inquisi- 
tion of Thoulouse, from the year 1307 to 1323. 
It had been purchased by the contributions 
of the Archbishops of Canterbury and York 
of the Bishop of Oxford himself, and of various 
other prelates, the Lord Chancellor, the 
Speaker of the House of Commons of that 
time, the Viscount Royston, &c. 

Can any of your readers inform me whether 
any or what portions of this manuscript have 
>een hitherto communicated to the world 
ither m the way of publication or translation! 
>r of abridgment, in whole or in part ? An 
analysis of this manuscript would be interest- 
ing to many readers of ecclesiastical history. 



The following extracts, from "The Decla- 
ration of the Accornpte of Nicholas Pay, gen- 
tleman, appoynted by warraunte of the righte 
honorable the lordes of the kinges ma ts Privie 
Councell, to receave and yssue sondrye somes 
of money for the pro vy con of dyett and other 
chardges of the ladye Arbella Seymour, whoe 
by his hignes comaundemente and pleasure 
shoulde haue bene remoued into the countye 
Palatyne of Duresme, under the chardge of 
the Reverende Father in God Will'm lorde 
Bishpp of Duresme; but after was stayed 
and appointed to remayne at Eastbarnett 
duringe his hignes good pleasure," are new to 
the history of this unfortunate lady. The ac- 
count includes all sums of money " receaved 
and yssued ffrom the xiiij th daye of Marche 
1610, untill the vij th daye of June 1611," and 
the account itself (as preserved in the Audit 
Office) "was taken and declared before the 
right honorable Roberte Earle of Salisbury, 
Lord Highe Threas of Englande and S r Ju- 
lius Caasar, Knighte, Chancellor and Under- 
Threas of Th'exchequer the xij th of Ffebruary 
1611" [1611/12]. The extracts throw some 
fresh light on her movements on her road 
from London to Durham. At East Barnet, 
it is well knownj she eluded the vigilance of 
her keepers, and threw the king and council 
into the utmost consternation. 


" Allowed for money payde for Dyett, lodginge 
and other necessarie chardges and expences of 
the said ladye Arbella Seymour and suche p'sons 
as were appointed to attende her in her journey 
into the Countie Palatyne of Duresme : as here- 
after followeth. 

"At Highgate for sixe days begonne the 
xv* h daye of Marche 1610 and ended the 
xxj st of the same month, on w ch day her 
ladishipp removed to Barnet 

xviij 11 . v s . iij d . 

" At Barnett for xj th dayes begonne the xxj st 
of Marche 1610 and ended the first of 
Aprill 1611, beinge that daye removed to 
Estbarnett - lxxj u . v s . viij d . 

" Chardges of the Stable for the xvij en dayes 
abovemenconed - xxxviij 11 . x". ix d . 

" Lodginge of some of the retinewe of the 
lady Arbella and the said lorde Bishopp, 
and for other necessaries duringe the xvij en 
dayes aforesaid - - xij". xix s . 

Nov. 3. 1849.] 



" Ryding and postingc chardges viz. for 
posthorses from Lambeth to Highgate and 
from thence to Barnett. To Mr. Beeston 
and others for their chardges three severall 
tyines to Barnett from London and from 
Highgate. To the servauntes of the lord 
bishp of Duresme sente at severall tymes 
to the lordes of the Councell and for other 
businesses concerninge this service ; and to 
Sir James Crofte, Knight, for the chardges 
of himselfe, his men, and horses attendinge 
at London in this service - ix n . xviij 8 . vj d . 

" Rewardes to sondrye p'rsons, viz. to messen- 
gers sent from the Courte during the staye 
of the Lorde Bishopp at Highgate and 
Barnett. To diuerse p'rsons who tooke 
paynes at Highgate and Barnett. Geven 
in the Inne for glasses broken, and in re- 
wardes to the meaner servauntes at Barnett, 
xxx s . &c. In all the some of xij 11 . ix 8 . vj d . 

" Also allowed to the sayde Accomptaunte for 
money by his owne handes yssued and payde in 
this service from the time of her ladishipps re- 
movinge from the Inne in Barnett to the house 
of Thomas Conyers Esquir in Estbarnett, as 
hereafter is menconed : 

" Expences of dyett for the lady Arbella her 
servauntes and others appointed to attende 
her at Estbarnett by the space of Ixviij 
dayes begonne the first of Aprill 1611, and 
ended the vij th of June following at cix 8 . 
iij d . p'r diem - - ccclxxj 11 . xj 8 . v d . 
" Chardges of the Stable, viz. for three 
lytter horses, one sumpter horse, and fyve 
coche horses for xxvj dayes at ij 8 the horse 
by daye and night. For the Stable at 
Eastbarnett for Ixviij dayes begonne the 
firste of Aprill 1611 and ended the vij th 
of June followinge : and for hyer of a 
coche of Thomas Webster employed in this 
service by the space of xxiij dves at xx 8 . 
per diem - Ixxvij 11 . vj 8 . ix d . 

" Boardwages of Cochemen, Lyttermen and 
Sumpter-raan and their men at viij 8 . and 
iij . iij d . and iij*. each per diem - I 11 , x 8 . 

" Enterteynement to sondrye p'rsons ap- 
pointed to attende the said lady Arbella 
Seymour. To Nicholas Pay this accomp- 
taunte xxxv 11 x 8 . To William Lewen 
for his attendaunce in the office of caterer 
of poultrye at in*, per diem for himselfe 
and his horse. To Richarde Mathewe for 
his attendance in the butterye and pan- 
trye at iij*. per diem for himselfe and his 
horse. To Thomas Mylles for his attend- 
aunce in the larder and kitchen at iij 8 . per 
diem for himselfe and his horse - Ixvj 11 . 'J 8 . 

" To rydinge and posting-chardges, viz. of 
Henry Mynors at severall tymes from Bar- 

nett to Whitehall and backe againe for dy- 
reccons in this service from the lordes of 
the privie Councell xxxv 8 . and for post- 
horses to carye the ladye Arbella Seymour 
her servauntes from Barnett to London 
xvij 1 . For the hier of horses at severall 
tymes for S r James Crofte betweene Bar- 
nett and London in attendinge the lordes of 
the Councell in this service xl 8 . - iiij". xij 8 . 

" For caryadges for removing the ladie AJ> 
bella and her companie from Lambeth to 
Highgate and from thence to Barnet, &c. 
Ixxviij 11 . xv . 

" In rewardes to sondrye p'rsons, viz. to the 
servauntes in Mr. Conyers house and la- 
borers to make clean the house, &c. 

iij 11 . xv 8 . 

" To Mathias Melwarde one of the Princes 
chaplaynes for his paynes in attending the 
ladye Arbella Seymour to preache and 
reade prayers duringe her aboade at Est- 
barnett v". 

" Houserent paid to Thomas Conyers Equier, 
for the rent of his house in Estbarnett for 
the lady Arbella Seymour and her com- 
panie for x en weekes at xx 8 . the week - x". 

" Payde out of the Receipte of theExchequier 
to thandes of the ladye Arbella Seymour 
for her owne furnishinge in her journey 
into the Bishoprycke of Durham - cc u . 

" Money payde to Thomas Moundeforde, 
Doctor of Physicke and an Apothecarye 
appointed by order of the lordes of the 
privie Councell to geve their attendaunce 
uppon the saide lady Arbella : viz. for the 
enterteynement of the saide Doctor Mounde- 
forde for cl tie dayes begonne the viij th of 
Ffebruarie 1610 and ended the vij th of 
Julie following 1611 at xxx 8 . per diem 


" Ffor the enterteynement of his Apothecarye 
for ninety dayes at xiij 8 . iiij d . per diem 

Ix 11 . 

" Ffor twoe r cabbanetts furnished w th thinges 
necessary and used in the tyine of the saide 
ladye Arbella forsyckenes - - xij 11 . 

" For chardges of horsehier and other ex- 
pences of the saide Doctor Moundeford 


" Payde to Sir James Crofte, Knighte, ap- 
povnted by order from the lordes of the 
privie Councell to geve his attendaunce 
uppon the saide lady Arbella Seymour for 
his enterteynement at xxx 8 . per diem 

clj". x 8 . 

" Some Tottall of the Allowances and pay- 
mentes - - M,ciij viij". viij 8 . x d . 


" JUL. C^SAB." 



[No. 1, 


In vol. 61. of the Lansdowne MSS. in the 
British Museum occurs the following remark- 
able letter from the Bishop of London (John 
Aylmer) to Lord Burghley. I wish to be 
informed to what "foolish rhime," which 
had been printed in Oxford and London, it 
applies ? It is a question of some literary im- 
portance to me at the present moment, and I 
am glad to have the opportunity of putting 
it by means of your new hebdomadal under- 
taking. I hope to meet with a reply in your 
* NOTES AND QUERIES " of next week. 

" To the Lord Treasurer. 
" Yt may please your good L. to understand, 
that upon inquiry made for the setting forth of 
this foolish rime, I finde that it was first printed at 
Oxford, by Joseph Barnes, and after here by Toby 
Cooke, without licence, who is now out of towne, 
but as sone as he returneth, I will talke with him 
about it. I marvell that they of Oxford will suffer 
such toyes to be sett forth by their authority ; for 
in my opinion it had been better to have thanked 
God, than to have insulted upon men, and espe- 
cially upon princes. And so I take my leave of 
your good L., praying God to send you health to 
his honour and all our good. From my pallace at 
London, this xxix th of Aprill 1589. 

" Your good L. to command in X ., 

If the above refer to any production in 
verse upon the defeat of the Armada, Lord 
Burghley (who had probably made inquiries 
of the Bishop) seems to have been actuated 
by some extraordinary and uncalled-for deli- 
cacy towards the King of Spain. Waiting an 
explanation, I am your 


Lond. Oct. 23. 1849. 

I cannot find that Aylmer's letter has ever 
been noticed by any of our literary antiqua- 


Mr. Editor, Can any of your readers 
direct me to the different authors who have 
treated of the asserted expedition of Madoc 
to America ; or to any Papers upon that sub- 
ject which have appeared in any Periodicals, 
or Transactions of learned societies. 



Mr. Editor, The following is an extract 
from Lord Brougham's Character of Chatham, 
vol. i. p. 27. 

" The Debates'on the American Stamp Act in 
1764 are the first that can be said to have been 
preserved at all, through the happy accident of 
Lord Charlemont, assisted by Sir Robert Dean, 
&c. &c., and accordingly they have handed down to 
us some Notes of Lord Chatham's celebrated Speech 
upon that Question" 

Can any of your readers inform me where 
these " NOTES" of this " celebrated speech" are 
to be found? 



Sir, I gladly avail myself of the " NOTES 
AND QUERIES," to request information on^the 
following points : 

I. Is any thing known, and especially from 
the writings of Erasmus, of a bookseller 
and publisher of the Low Countries named 
Dome, who lived at the beginning of the six- 
teenth century ? 

II. Is any thing known of a little work of 
early date, called Henno rusticus ? 

III. Or of another, called Oj the sige 
(signe ?) of the end ? ; ^ 

Trusting that some of your readers will b 3 
enabled to throw light upon one or other of 
these points, 

I remain, &c. 



Trevecka, 1779. 


ETC. 4to. Rome. 1681. 


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Ix our opening Address we carefully avoided 
any thing at all approaching to a boast of 
what we would, or even what we hoped to 
perform. We stated that " we would rather 
give a specimen than a description." We are 
now in like manner unwilling to point as ex- 
ultingly, as we think we might, to the position 
which we have already taken. But there is 
a vast difference between vain boasting and 
the expression of an honest satisfaction ; and 
it would be worse than an affectation of 
humility it would be a mean hypocrisy 
if we did not express heartily and unre- 
servedly the gratitude we owe and feel to 
those who have encouraged us by their friendly 
advice and able pens. We have opened a 
Literary Exchange, and we have had the gra- 
tification to see that men whose learning and 
talents the public recognise leaders in their 
several branches of inquiry have at once 
taken advantage of it. They have proved 
the necessity for some such medium of com- 
munication, as well as their good will to the 
one now offered to them, by a gathering in 
its behalf which the public will respect, and of 
which we may well feel proud. 

Some whose good opinion we most value, 
and who have spoken most warmly in favour 
of our plan, have proved the sincerity of their 
praise by suggestions of improvement in its 
detail, and hints for its further extension. 

They may feel assured that such hints and 
such suggestions shall not be lost sight of. 
For instance, one respected correspondent 
hints that as we have very properly adopted 
Dr. Maitland's suggestion with regard to Pler- 
bert's edition of Ames' Typographical Anti- 
quities, namely, that of " offering a receptacle 
for illustrations, additions, and corrections," 
and invited " our readers to take advantage 
of our columns to carry out Dr. Maitland's 
suggestions," we should open our columns with 
equal readiness to the correction and illustra- 
tion of more modern and more popular works. 
We entirely concur with him ; but in reference 
to this subject there is a distinction which 
must be borne in mind. Our own literature, 
like that of every other country, consists of 
two classes of books. We have the books of 
pretenders to knowledge, the hasty, crude, 
imperfect, but often for the time attractive 
and popular volumes of the Ned Purdons of 
the day. These books have a use such as it 
is and thus answer their purpose ; but it 
would be for the credit of our literature, and 
save a world of trouble, if they were forgotten 
as soon as they had done so. To illustrate 
such books, to add to their information or 
correct their blunders, would be useless and 
almost ridiculous. They should be left to die 
of mere powerlessness and exhaustion, or to 
wither under the wholesome influence of a 
just and manly criticism. 

But there are books of another kind 




[No. 2. 

books which our worthy bibliopoles designate 
as " standard works." These are the books of 
competent workmen books which are the 
result of honest labour and research, and which 
from the moment of their publication assume 
a permanent station in our national literature. 
Even in such books there are many things in- 
complete, many things erroneous. But it is 
the interest of every man that such books 
should be rendered as complete as possible; 
and whatever tends to illustrate or correct 
works of that class will be sure of insertion 
in our columns. 

We would point to Macaulay's England, 
and Hallam's Introduction to the Literary 
History of the }5th, I6th, and 17 th Centuries, 
his Middle Ages, and his Constitutional His- 
tory, and we may add, as illustrations of a 
different kind, The Annals of the Stage of our 
excellent friend Mr. Collier, and The Hand- 
book of London of our valued contributor 
Mr. Peter Cunningham, as examples of the 
sort of publications to which we allude. Such 
were the books we had in our mind, when we 
spoke in our Prospectus of the " NOTES AND 
QUERIES" becoming, through the inter-com- 
munication of our literary friends, "a most 
useful supplement to works already in exist- 
ence a treasury towards enriching future 
editions of them." 

Another correspondent a bibliographical 
friend suggests that, for various reasons, 
which bibliographers will appreciate, our 
Prospectus should have a place in the body 
of our work. We believe that many of our 
readers concur in a wish for its preservation, 
and it will therefore be found in the Number 
now before them. 

One suggestion again urges us to look care- 
fully to Foreign Literature, and another 
points out the propriety of our making our 
paper as British as possible, so that our topo- 
graphical facts should, as far as practicable, be 
restricted to the illustration of British counties, 
and our biographical ones to such as should 
contribute towards a Biographia Britannica. 

All these, and many other expressions of 
sympathy and promises of support, poured in 
upon us within a few hours after our birth. 
No one of them shall be forgotten ; and if for 
a time our pages seem to indicate that we 
have made a QUERY as to the adoption of any 
suggestion, let our kind contributors be as- 
sured that there is no hint which reaches us, 
whether at present practicable or not, that 
we do not seriously and thankfully " make a 
NOTE of." 


As I am in a condition to answer the 
inquiry of your " Hearty Well-wisher," on 
p. 12. of your last Number of " NOTES AND 
QUERIES," I proceed to give him the informa- 
tion he asks. I shall be happy if what 
follows is of any use to your correspondent, 
taking it for granted that he is as zealous for 
your success as his signature indicates. 

The " foolish rhyme," to which the at- 
tention of the Bishop of London had been 
directed by Lord Burghley, has the subse- 
quent doggrel title : 

" A Skeltonicall Salvtation, 
Or condigne gratvlation, 
And iust vexation 
Of the Spanishe nation, 
That in a bravado 
Spent many a crvsado, 
In setting forth an armado 
England to invado." 

This is as the title stands in the Oxford 
impression (of which I never saw more than 
one copy, because, we may presume, it was 
suppressed by the authorities of the Uni- 
versity, and the following is the imprint at 
the bottom of it : " Printed at Oxford by 
loseph Barnes, and are to bee sold in Paules 
Churchyard, at the signe of the Tygres head, 

There exist several exemplars of the London 
edition " Imprinted at London for Toby 
Cooke. 1589," the title-page of which, as 
well as the rest of the por j m, differs only lite- 
rally from that of Oxford, excepting that to 
the later is appended a Latin version, also in 
rhyme, and in close imitation of the English. 
I subjoin a brief specimen of it : 

Nov. 10. 1849.] 



" Qui regis Hispanos, 
Superbos et vanos, 
Crudeles et insanos, 
Multum aberrasti, 
Cum tuos animasti, 
Et bellum inchoasti 
Contra Anglos animosos, 
Fortes et bellicosos, 
Nobiles et generosos. 
Qui te excitavit 
Proculdubio deliravit 
Et te fascinavit," &o, 

The whole production consists only of ten 
leaves, 4to, and the Latin portion, which has 
the subsequent separate title-page, occupies 
four of them : 


Cum tua non fuerint heroica facta, Philippe, 
Risu digna cano carmine ridicule." 

I shall not here introduce any part of the 
English version, because one or two long 
quotations will be found in the introductory 
portion of the Rev. A. Dyce's excellent edition 
of Skelton's Works (2 vols. 8vo. 1843). Re- 
specting the Latin portion I have been more 
particular, because the learned editor was not 
aware that the production had come from the 
press of Barnes of Oxford, nor that a Latin 
version was appended to it. 

I may take the liberty of adding here a 
mention of Skelton which escaped notice, and 
which is from one of the tracts against Thomas 
Nash, produced by Gabriel Harvey, the friend 
of Spenser. He couples Skelton and Scoggin 
together, in no very respectful manner, and 
completes the triumvirate by Nash, whom he 
here calls Signor Capriccio : " And what 
riott so pestiferous as that which in sugred 
baites presenteth most poisonous hookes? 
Sir Skelton and Master Scoggin were but 
innocents to Signior Capricio." 

This quotation is the more noticeable, be- 
cause it recognises the sacred character of 
Skelton (however unworthy of the gown) in 
the prefix Sir," which, as most people 
aware, was then generally given to clergy- 
men : Scoggin, on the other hand, is only 
styled " Master Scoggin." 


[The preceding communication was already in 

type wlii-n we rcc-ivcd the following from Mr. 
Bolton Corney, which we gladly print, inasmuch as 

it illustrates some points not touched upon by Mr. 


It is not without some slight reluctance 
that I notice anonymous communications, but 
shall endeavour to repress such feelings with 
regard to the modest students who may choose 
to announce their desiderata through the con- 
venient channel of the " NOTES AND QUERIES." 
A hearty well-wisher to so commendable an en- 
terprise, shall have my first responsive scrap. 

The inquiry affords no scope for ingenuity 
of conjecture ! The foolish rime to which 
bishop Aylmer refers, is undoubtedly the 
pamphlet thus entitled: 

" A Skeltonicall salutation, 
Or condigne gratulution k 
And iust vexation 
Of the Spanish nation, 
That in a bravado 
Spent many a crusado, 
In setting forth an armado 
England to invado." 

;Oxford, Joseph Barnes, 1589. 4to, 

" A Skeltonicall salutation," &c. 

Imprinted at London for Toby 
Cook, 1589. 4to. 

The Oxford edition is recorded by Ames, 
and there is a copy of the London edition in 
the British Museum. Strype, in his account 
of bishop Aylmer, gives the substance of the 
letter as his own narrative, almost verbatim 
but fails to identify the pamphlet in ques- 
tion. Park briefly describes it in Censura 
Literaria 1815. ii. 18.; and there ia a speci- 
men of it in The poetical works of John 
Skelton, as edited by the reverend Alexander 
Dyce, 1843. 

While queries evince a sharp mental appe- 
tite, answers help to satisfy it ; and so, by 
their united influence, a brisk circulation of 
ideas may be produced which, as master 
Burton assures us, wards off melancholy. 



Sir ; I take the liberty to send you one or 
two Notes on your first Number, just as they 
occur to me in looking it over. I will not 
trespass on you by preface or apology. 

The " bibliographic project^ 'I shall rejoice 



[No. 2. 

to see carried out; and though neither an 
unemployed aspirant nor a fortunate collector 
(of which class I hope many will be stimulated 
by the proposition), yet, as I once took some 
trouble in the matter, I should be happy to 
contribute some Notes then made whenever 
the plan is matured and the proposed appeal 
is made provided (I must add, and to you 
I may add) I can find them. 

The Liber Sententiarum was printed by 
Limborch, at Amsterdam, in 1692. It forms 
the greater part, as, indeed, it was the occa- 
sion, of his folio volume, entitled " Historia 
Inquisitionis cui subjungitur Liber Sententia- 
rum Inquisitionis Tholosance ab anno Christi 
ctocccvi ad annum clocccxxm." Gibbon, 
in a note on his fifty-fourth chapter, observes 
that the book " deserved a more learned and 
critical editor ;" and if your correspondent 
will only place the Book of Sentences before 
the public in a readable form, with a map, 
and (by all means) a few notes, he will be 
doing a great service to all persons who take 
an interest in ecclesiastical history, or, indeed, 
in history of any kind. In the year 1731 
Chandler published a translation of the His- 
tory of the Inquisition, with a long Introduc- 
tion of his own, but did not meddle with the 
Book of Sentences, except so far as to intro- 
duce into the text of the History some passages 
from it, which Limborch (as he appended the 
whole book) did not think it necessary to 
quote. I remember seeing the MS. in the 
British Museum within these ten or twelve 
years, and, according to my recollection, it 
was accompanied by papers which would 
furnish an interesting literary history of the 
volume. I hope your correspondent will give 
us farther information. N. B. 

[Mr. Brooke, of Ufford, has also kindly replied 
to the Query of INQUISITORIUS, by referring him 
to Limborch.] 


Sir, May I be permitted to suggest one 
way in which you may be, of great service to 
many literary men, and indeed to the cause of 
literature in general; and this, too, without 
much trouble to yourself? Would you be 
willing to receive " Queries" respecting re- 
ferences? They frequently puzzle those 3 who 
are engaged in literary works, and indeed 
those who are merely readers, and who have 

not access to public libraries or the manu- 
script treasures of the metropolis and the 
universities. If, for instance, a clergyman 
or squire, interested in the history of his 
parish, should find in the county historian 
something which his own local or genealogical 
knowledge leads him to think erroneous, 
vouched for by a reference to the Cotton or 
Harleian MSS., might he apply to you ? It 
may be supposed that you are not very far 
from some one of the great fountains of in- 
formation, and have easy access to all : and 
it is probable that you might not only do a 
personal favour to the inquirer, but confer a 
benefit on the public, by correcting an erro- 
neous statement. Of course you would sub- 
ject yourself to unreasonable requests, but 
the remedy would always be in your own 
hands. Yours, &c. A. G. C. 

[The Editor inserts this letter because he is sure 
that it comes from a friendly quarter, and he 
knows that something like what it suggests is very 
much wanted. He would feel great diffidence as 
to his powers of fulfilling all that might be ex- 
pected if he were simply to reply in the affirm- 
ative; but he is quite willing to make the trial, 
and he thinks that (though sometimes perhaps with 
a little delay) he could in general obtain any in 
formation of this kind which could be reasonably 


Mr. Editor, The following lines are writ- 
ten in pencil on sheet 61. of the Notes of the 
Debates in the Long Parliament, taken down 
in the House of Commons by Sir Ralph 
Verney. The Notes of Debates, but not 
these lines, were published by the Camden 
Society in 1845. For any thing that appears 
to the contrary, these lines may have been 
written in the House as well as the Notes of 
Debates. The sheet 61. refers to debates 
which took place in March 1641-2. I am not 
aware that the lines have been published, nor 
can I assign them to their author. If any of 
your readers can tell me any thing about them, 
I shall esteem it a favour. 

Wert thou yet fairer than thou art, 
Which lies not in the power of art ; 

Or hadst thou, 'in thine eyes, more darts 
Than Cupid ever shot at hearts ; 

Yet, if they were not thrown at me, 
I could not cast one thought at thee. 

Nov. 10. 1849.] 



I'd rather marry a disease 

Than court the thing I cannot please ; 
She that will cherish my desires, 

Must feed my flames with equal fires. 
AY hat pleasure is there in a kiss, 

To him that doubts the heart's not his? 

I love thee, not 'cause thou art fair, 
Smoother than down, softer than air, 

Nor for those Cupids that do lie 
In either corner of thine eye ; 

Will you then know what it may be ? 
'Tis I love you 'cause you love me. 


24th Oct. 1849. 


A knowledge of the intellectual acquire- 
ments of the middle ages must be mainly- 
formed upon a consideration of the writings 
which directed them, or emanated from them. 
Unfortunately such materials are very imper- 
fect, our knowledge of the existence of works 
often resting only upon their place in some 
loosely-entered catalogue and of the cata- 
logues themselves, the proportion still remain- 
ing must be small indeed. Under these cir- 
cumstances the following documents, which are 
now for the first time printed, or even noticed, 
will be found to be of considerable interest. 
The first is, in modern language, a Power of 
Attorney, executed by the Prior of Christ 
Church, Canterbury, appointing two of the 
monks of his church to be his procurators for 
the purpose of receiving from the convent of 
Anglesey, in Cambridgeshire*, a book which 
had been lent to the late Rector of Terrington. 
Its precise date is uncertain, but it must be 
of about the middle of the thirteenth century 
(12441254), as Nicholas Sandwich, the 
Prior of Christ Church, was the second of 
four priors who presided between the years 
1234 and 1274. 

m " N. Prior Ecclesia Christi Cantuariensis discre- 
i> vii is et reli-jiosis Domino Priori de Anjrlesheya 
et ejusdcm loci sacro convent ui salutem in Domino. 
Cum srncera semper caritate noverit fraternity 
v.-xtra nos constitute fratres Gauterum dc Il.itd- 
Md i-t Xidiolaum de Grantebrigiense Ecclesise 
iio-tra- monachoe latores precencium procurators 
nostros ad exigcndum et recipi.-ndinn librum qui 

* The information -given of this house by Dugdale 
is v,ry scanty. It could surc-ly he added to con- 

intitulatur..Johannes Crisestomus de laude Apos- 
toli.. In quo etiam volumine continentur Hystoria 
vetus Britonum quae Brutus appellatur et tracta- 
tus Roberti Episcopi Herfordiae de compoto. Quse 
quondam accommodavimus Magistro Laurentio 
de Sancto Nicholao tune Hector i ecclesiae de Ty- 
renton. Qui post decessum praefati Magistri L. 
penes vos morabatur et actenus moratur. In cu- 
jus rei testimonium has litteras patentes nostro 
sigillo signatas vobis transmittimus." 

The contents of the book which is the sub- 
ject of this special embassy are of the cha- 
racter usually found to have formed the staple 
of monastic libraries, though the particular 
treatises included in it are not common. 

In the Reverend Joseph Hunter's valuable 
treatise upon English Monastic Libraries * 
occurs a notice of an indenture executed m 
A.D. 1343, whereby the priory of Henton lent 
no less than twenty books to another monastic 
establishment. The deed is described, but 
not printed. It will be seen that the instru- 
ment we have given above is nearly a century 
earlier ; and the minute description of the 
book given in thia document supplies some 
very curious facts illustrative of the mode of 
putting together ancient books, whicli have 
not hitherto been remarked, for the simple 
reason that no opportunity for comparison 
like that presented by the present case lias 
yet been noticed. Among the Cottonian MSS. 
(Galba E. iv.) is a perfect specimen of an an- 
cient Library Catalogue, which, although not 
altogether unnoticed, deserves a more careful 
examination than it has yet received. It re- 
lates to the magnificent monastic foundation 
from which emanated the deed we have printed 
above, and is headed " Tituli librorum de 
libraria Ecclesiae Christi Cantuariensis et con- 
tenta in eisdem libris tempore H. Prioris." It 
is written in that bold hand which prevails so 
extensively in ecclesiastical MSS., with but 
little variation, from the middle of the-four- 
teenth century to the end of the fifteenth, 
a hand which is not always clearly written, 
and which therefore, in itself, does not mate- 
rially assist in the distinction of a date. Now 
having first assigned the credit of this noble 

* London, 1831, quarto. See also a Paper by 
Mr. I lall'i well in the Archa-oloyin, xxvii. p. 455., and 
Sir Francis 1'aljrrave's Introduction to Documents and 
Records illustrating t/n: History of Scotland, pp. xcvi. 
cxvi., for i-xtracts from the liistoiieal chronicles pre- 
served in the monasteries, &c. 



[No. 2, 

Catalogue in which are entered about 600 
volumes, in nearly every one of which, be- 
sides the substantive (or initial ?) work, are 
particularised numerous detached writings, 
vary in" from two or three to five-and-forty 
distinct "tracts" to Prior Henry Chichely 
(1413_H43), the founder of All Souls and 
St. John's Colleges, Oxford, and who " built 
the library of the church, and furnished it with 
books," we will see whether the book qui 
intitulatur Johannes Crisestomus," &c. was 
returned to Canterbury, and had a place in 
the list ; and this, we think, is satisfactorily 
shown by the following entry : 

" Johannes Crisostomus de laude Apostoli. 

In hoc volumine continentur 
Idem de laude Redemptoris. 
Brutus latine. 
Nomina Regum Britannia sicut in ordme suc- 

Nomina Arehiepiscoporum Cantuariensis sicut 

in ordine suecesserunt. 

Tabula et questiones Bede de ratione temporum. 
Tabula ejus'lern et expositio super tabulam de 


Descriptio Britannia? Insulae. 
Expositio super Merlinum, imperfecta, 

It may perhaps'be supposed that this proves 
too much, as, besides the direct title of the 
volume, eight " tracts" are here entered, while 
in the Power of Attorney only two are no- 
ticed. But we would maintain, nevertheless, 
that it is the identical book, and explain this 
variation in the description by the circum- 
stance that the library having, in the space 
of nearly two centuries, been materially en- 
riched, numerous works, consisting in many 
cases only of a single " quaternion," were in- 
serted in the volumes already existing. An 
examination of the structure of books of this 
period would confirm this view, and show that 
their apparent clumsiness is to be explained 
by the facility it was then the custom to afford 
for the interpolation or extraction of " sbeets," 
by a contrivance somewhat resembling that 
of the present day for temporarily fixing loose 
papers in a cover, and known as the " patent 

The second document is a list of certain 
books, belonging to the monastery of Angle- 
sey, early in the fourteenth century, allotted 
out to the canons of the house for the pur- 
pose of custody, or, perhaps, of study or de- 

Isti libri liberati sunt canonicis die.. ....anno 

regni Regis Edwardi septimo ' * (7 Ldvv. 11. 

Penes Dominum Priorem^ Parabelae Salomo- 

nis; Psalterium cum 

Penes Dominum J. de Bodek. ; Epistolae Pauli 

; Qusedam notulse super psalter et liber 

miraculorum Marias cum miraculis sanc- 
Penes Sub-priorem ; Liber vitas Sancti Thorn* 


Penes E. de Ely ; Quartus liber sententiarum 

cum sermo ; Liber Reymundi; Liber de 

vitiis et virtutibus et pastorale. 

Penes R. Pichard ; Liber Alquini ; Liber Johan- 
nis de Tyrington cum Catone et aliis. 

Penes Henrici Muchet ; Liber de vita Sanctae 
Marise Magdalenae et remediaruni (?) 

Penes Walteri de Yilwilden ; Liber S liga- 

tus in panno ymnaro glosatus cum constitu- 
tionibus ; Belet ligatus et vita sanctorum. 

Penes Ricardi de Queye ; Omelias Gregorii (?) 
super Evangelistos ligatae in nigro corio. 

In commune biblia ; Decreta ; Decretales ; 
Prima pars moralium Job ; Liber de abusio- 

Liber justitiaB ; penes Magistrum Adam de Wil- 

Penes Walteri de Wyth ; Liber Innocent 11 su- 
per sacramenta cum Belet et introductione in 
uno volumine. 

Item penes Sup-priorem ; Psalterium glosatum 
quod fuit in custodia Magistri Henrici de 

Item aliud psalterium glosatum inpignoratum 
penes Isabellam Siccadona. 

Several of these descriptions are highly 
curious; particularly the last item, which de- 
scribes one of the " glossed " psalters as being 
" in paivn" a fact which, in itself, tells a 
history of the then condition of the house. 

The first document, taken in connection 
with that referred to by Mr. Hunter, would 
seem to establish the existence of a system of 
interchanging the literary wealth of monastic 
establishments, and thereby greatly extending 
the advantages of their otherwise scanty 
stores. Both are executed with all the legal 
forms used in the most important transactions, 
which would support the opinion of their not 

* The formula of this date, " anno R. R. E. sep- 
timo," would at first sight be considered to refer to the 
preceding reign ; but the list is merely a memorandum 
on the dorse of a completely executed instrument dated 
A. D. 1300, which it is highly improbable that it pre- 
ceded. The style of Edward II. is often found as 
above, though not usually so. 

Nov. 10. 1849.] 



being special instances : but they are, in either 
case, curious and satisfactory evidence of the 
care and caution exercised by the monks in 
cases where their books were concerned ; and 
one cannot but regret that when the time 
came that the monasteries were destined to 
be dissolved, and their books torn and scat- 
tered to the winds, no attention was paid to 
Bale's advice for the formation of " one so- 
lemne library in every shire of England." 




The following verses, which would form a 
very appropriate song for Autolycus, were 
arranged as a glee for three voices by Dr. Wil- 
son about the year 1667. They are published 
in Play ford's Musical Companion in 1673 ; in 
Warren's Collection of Glees and Catches ; 
and in S. Webbe's Conveto Harmonica. The 
words were, I believe, first ascribed to Shak- 
spere, by Clark, in 1824, in his Words of 
Glees, Madrigals, fyc. ; but he has not given 
his authority for so doing. It has been stated 
that they have since been discovered in a 
common-place book written about Shakspere's 
time, with his name attached to them, and 
witli this indirect evidence in favour of their 
being written by him, that the other pieces 
in the collection are attributed to their proper 
writers. The late Mr .'Douce, who was in- 
clined to believe the song to have been written 
by Shakspere, once saw a copy of it with a 
fourth verse which was shown to him by the 
then organist of Chichester. The poem is not 
included in Mr. Collier's edition of Shakspere, 
nor in the Aldine edition of Shakspere's Poems, 
rditrd by the Rev. A. Dyce. Perhaps if you 
will be good enough to insert the song and 
the present communication in the " NOTES AND 
OtntfOEB," some of your readers may be enabled 
to fix the authorship, and to furnish the ad- 
ditional stanza to which I have referred. 


From the far Lavinian shore, 
I your markets come to store; 
Muse not, though so far I dwell, 
And my wares come here to sell ; 

Such is the sacred hunger for gold. 
Then come to my pack, 

While I cry 
" What d'ye lack, 

What d'ye buy ? 
For here it is to be sold." 
I have beauty, honour, grace, 
Fortune, favour, time, and place, 
And what else thou would'st request, 
E'en the thing thou likest best ; 
First, let me have but a touch of your gold. 
Then, come to me, lad, 

Thou shalt have 
What thy dad 
Never gave ; 
For here it is to be sold. 

Madam, come, see what you lack, 

I've complexions in my pack ; 

White and red you may have in this place, 

To hide your old and wrinkled face. 

First, let me have but a touch of your gold, 

Then you shall seem 

Like a girl of fifteen, 
Although you be threescore and ten years old. 

While on this subject, perhaps I may be 
permitted to ask whether any reader of the 
" NOTES AND QUERIES" can throw light on the 
following questionable statement made by a 
correspondent of the Morning Herald, of the 
16th September, 1822. 

" Looking over an old volume the other day, 
printed in 1771, I find it remarked that it was 
known as a tradition, that Shakspeare shut himself 
up all night in Westminster Abbey when he wrote 
the ghost scene in Hamlet." 

I do not find in Wilson's Shakspeariana the 
title of a single "old" book printed in 1771, 
on the subject of Shakspere. T. 


Mr. Editor, I am encouraged by the 
eminent names which illustrate the first 
Number of your new experiment a most 
happy thought to inquire whether they, or 
any other correspondent, can inform me who 
was the William de Skypwith, the patent of 
whose appointment as Chief Justice of the 
King's Bench in Ireland, dated February 15. 
1370, 44 Edward III., is to be found in the 
New Feedera, vol. iii. p. 877 ? In the entry 
on the Issue Roll of that year, p. 458., of the 
payment of " his expences and equipment " in 
?oing there, he is called "SirWilliam Skipwyth, 
Knight, and the King's Justice in Ireland." 



[No. 2. 

There was a Sir William Skipwyth, who 
was appointed a Judge of the Common Pleas 
in 33 Edward III., and Chief Baron of the 
Exchequer in 36 Edward III. ; and, were it 
not that Collins, in his Baronetage, followed 
by Burke, says that he remained Chief Baron 
till 40 Edward III., in which year he died, I 
should have had no doubt that the Irish Chief 
Justice was the same with the English Chief 

The same authority adds that Sir William 
Skipwyth who was made a Justice of the 
King's Bench [it should have been of the 
Common Pleas] in 50 Edward III., and who 
resigned his office in 1 1 Richard II., was the 
eldest son of the Chief Baron. But that au- 
thority does not make the slightest allusion 
to the appointment of the Chief Justice of 

A suspicion that this last Justice of the 
Common Pleas is oaot only the same person 
as the Chief Justice of Ireland, but also as 
the Chief Baron of the Exchequer, has arisen 
in my mind for the following among other 

1. Collins and Burke are wrong in saying 
that he remained Chief Baron till 40 Edward 
III. His successor in that office was appointed 
on October 29. 1365, 39 Ed ward III. 

2. They are further wrong, I imagine, in 
saying that he continued Chief Baron till his 
death : for Joshua Barnes, in his History of 
Edward III., p. 667., says that Skipwyth and 
Sir Henry Green, the Chief Justice of the 
King's Bench, were in 1365 arrested and 
imprisoned on account of many enormities 
which the King understood they had com- 
mitted against law and justice; and this 
relation is corroborated by the fact that 
Green's successor as Chief Justice was ap- 
pointed on the same day as Skipwyth's suc- 
cessor as Chief Baron. 

3. No proof whatever is given of the Chief 
Baron's death in 40 Edward III. 

I will not trouble you with other grounds 
of identification which occur to me : but as 
an answer to my question might " make these 
odds all even," I send the " Query " to the 
" Lost and Found Office " you have esta- 
blished, in the hope that some stray " Note," 
as yet unappropriated, may assist in solving 
the difficulty. EDWARD Foss. 

November 5. 1649. 


Mr. Editor, May I ask if any of your 
contributors could inform me in an early 
number, when and on what occasion the 
Thistle was adopted as the emblem of the 
Scottish nation? I have looked into many 
historians, but as yet found nothing definite 
enough. R- fit 

Paisley, Oct. 29. 18-19. 

Mr. Editor, Having noticed the letter of 
Mr. John Bruce, in your Miscellany, I beg 
leave to inform him that the ash tree under 
which Monmouth was taken is still standing 
on the Woodland estate, now the property of 
the Earl of Shaftesbury. 

I shall be happy at some future day, if it 
suits your purpose, to collect and send you 
such particulars as may be gained on the 
spot respecting it, and the incidents of the 

We have still in the Town Hall here the 
chair in which it is said Jefferies sat at the 
Bloody Assize. A. D. M. 

Dorchester, 3d Nov. 1849. 

[We shall gladly receive the particulars which 
our Correspondent proposes to collect and for- 


[Mr. Thorns' Query in this case should have 
been limited to the straw necklaces, as Mr. Nichols 
has already explained the serpents' eggs ; but our 
Correspondent's letter is so satisfactory on both 
points that we insert it entire.] 

The passage from Erasmus, "brachiurn 
habet ova serpentum," is plainly to be ren- 
dered " and with a string of serpents' eggs 
on your arm." The meaning is equally appa- 
rent on recalling the manner in which snakes' 
eggs are found, viz., hanging together in a 
row. Erasmus intends Menedemus to utter 
a joke at the rosary of beads hanging over 
the pilgrim's arm, which he professes to mis- 
take for serpents' eggs. 

I am not aware what particular propriety 
the "collar or chaplet" (for it may mean 
either) of straw may have, as worn by a pil- 
grim from Compostella ; or whether there 
may not lurk under this description, as be- 

Nov. 10. 1849.] 



neath the other, a jocular sense. The readiest 
way of determining this point would be to 
consult some of the accounts of Compostella 
and of its relics, which are to be found in a 
class of books formerly abundant in the north- 
western towns of Spain. V. 


" A Student" may consult the Proceedings 
of the Royal Society of Northern Antiquaries, 
Copenhagen* Mr. Geogehan's Ireland, O Fla- 
herty's Ogygia, Magnusen and Rafn On the 
Historical Monuments of Greenland and 
America, and some of the Sagas. SCOT us. 

Brechin, Nov. 5. 1849. 


The earliest account we have of coffee is 
said to be taken from an Arabian MS. in the 
Bibliotheque du Roi in Paris. 

Schehabeddin Ben, an Arabian author of 
the ninth century of the Hegira, or fifteenth 
of the Christians, attributes to Gemaleddin, 
Mufti of Aden, a city of Arabia Felix, who 
was nearly his contemporary, the first intro- 
duction into that country, of drinking coffee. 
He tells us, that Gemaleddin, having occasion 
to travel into Persia, during his abode there 
saw some of his countrymen drinking coffee, 
which at that time he did not much attend to ; 
but, on his return to Aden, finding himself 
indisposed, and remembering that he had seen 
his countrymen drinking coffee in Persia, in 
hopes of receiving some benefit from it, he 
determined to try it on himself; and, after 
making the experiment, not only recovered 
his health, but perceived other useful qualities 
in that liquor; such as relieving the head- 
ach, enlivening the spirits, and, without pre- 
judice to the constitution, preventing drow- 
siness. This last quality he resolved to turn 
to the advantage of his profession ; he took it 
himself, and recommended it to the Dervises, 
or religious Mahometans, to enable them to 
pass the nijrht in prayer, and other exercises 
of their religion, with greater zeal and at- 
tention. The example and authority of the 
mufti gave reputation to coffee. Soon men 
of letters, and persons belonging to the law, 
adopted the use of it. These were followed 
by the tradesmen and artisans that were 

under the necessity of working in the night, 
and such as were obliged to travel late after 
sun-set. At length the custom became general 
in Aden ; and it was not only drunk in the 
night by those who were desirous of being 
kept awake, but in the day for the sake of its 
other agreeable qualities. 

Before this time coffee was scarce known in 
Persia, and very little used in Arabia, where 
the tree grew. But, according to Scheha- 
beddin, it had been drunk in ^Ethiopia from 
time immemorial. 

Coffee being thus received at Aden, where 
it has continued in use ever since without in- 
terruption, passed by degrees to many neigh- 
bouring towns ; and not long after reached 
Mecca, where it was introduced, as at Aden, 
by the Dervises, and for the same purposes of 

The inhabitants of Mecca were at last so 
fond of this liquor, that, without regarding 
the intention of the religious, and other stu- 
dious persons, they at length drank it publicly 
in coffee-houses, where they assembled in 
crowds to pass the time agreeably, making 
that the pretence. From hence the custom 
extended itself to many other towns of Arabia, 
particularly to Medina, and then to Grand 
Cairo in Egypt, where the Dervises of Yemen, 
who lived in a district by themselves, drank 
coffee on the nights they intended to spend in 

Coffee continued its progress through Syria, 
and was received at Damascus and Aleppo 
without opposition ; and in the year 1554, 
under the reign of Solyman, one hundred 
years after its introduction by the Mufti of 
Aden, became known to the inhabitants of 
Constantinople, when two private persons of 
the names of Schems and Ilekin, the one 
coming from Damascus, and the other from 
1 Aleppo, opened coffee-houses. 

" It is not easy," says Ellis, " to determine 
at what time, or upon what occasion, the use 
of coffee passed from Constantinople to the 
western parts of Europe. It is, however, 
likely that the Venetians, upon account of the 
proximity of their dominions, and their great 
trade to the Levant, were the first acquainted 
with it ; which appears from part of a letter 
wrote by Peter della Valle, a Venetian, in 
1615, from Constantinople ; in which he tells 
his friend, that, upon his return he should 



[No. 2. 

bring with him some coffee, which he believed 
was a thing unknown in his country." 

Mr.Galand tells us he was informed by 
M. de la Croix, the King's interpreter, that 
M. Thevenot, who had travelled through the 
East, at his return in 1657, brought with him 
to Paris some coffee for his own use, and 
often treated his friends with it. 

It was known some years sooner at Mar- 
seilles ; for, in 1644, some gentlemen who 
accompanied M. de la Haye to Constantinople, 
brought back with them on their return, not 
only some coffee, but the proper vessels and 
apparatus for making it. However, until 
1660, coffee was drunk only by such as had 
been accustomed to it in the Levant, and 
their friends : but that year some bales 
were imported from Egypt, which gave a 
great number of persons an opportunity of 
trying it, and contributed very much to bring- 
ing it into general use ; and in 1761, a coffee- 
house was opened at Marseilles in the neigh- 
bourhood of the Exchange. 

Before 1669, coffee had not been seen at 
Paris, except at M. Thevenot's, and some of 
his friends ; nor scarce heard of but from the 
account of travellers. In that year, Soliman 
Aga, ambassador from the Sultan Mahomet 
the Fourth, arrived, who, with his retinue, 
brought a considerable quantity of coffee 
with them, and made presents of it to per- 
sons both of the court and city, and is sup- 
posed to have established the custom of 
drinking it. 

Two years afterwards, an Armenian, of the 
name of Pascal, set up a coffee-house, but 
meeting with little encouragement, left Paris 
and came to London. 

From Anderson's Chronological History 
of Commerce, it appears that the use of coffee 
was introduced into London some years earlier 
than into Paris. For in 1652 one Mr. Ed- 
wards, a Turkey merchant, brought home 
with him a Greek servant, whose name was 
Pasqua, who understood the roasting and 
making^ of coffee, till then unknown in Eng- 
land. This servant was the first who sold 
coffee, and kept a house for that purpose in 
George Yard, Lombard Street. 

The first mention of coffee in our statute 
books is anno 1660 (12 Car. II. c. 24.), when 
a duty of 4d. was laid upon every gallon of 
coffee made and sold, to be paid by the maker. 

The statute 15 Car. II. c. 11. 15. ann. 
1663, directs that all coffee-houses should be 
licensed at the general quarter sessions of 
the peace for the county within which they 
are to be kept. 

In 1675 King Charles II. issued a pro- 
clamation' to shut up the coffee-houses, but 
in a few days suspended the proclamation by 
a second. They were charged with being 
seminaries of sedition. 

The first European author who has made 
any mention of coffee is Rauwolfus, who was 
in the Levant in 1573. 


Sir, Do you, or any of your readers, 
know anything of the family of that celebrated 
antiquary ? and do you think it probable that 
he was descended from, or connected with, 
the author of a work which I met with some 
time ago, intituled " Wit Revived, or A new 
and excellent way of Divertisement, digested 
into most ingenious Questions and Answers. 
Printed for T. E. and are to be sold by most 
Booksellers. MDCLXXIV." 12mo. I do not 
know anything of the author's character, but 
he appears to have been a right-minded man, 
in so far as he (like yourself) expected to find 
"wit revived" by its digestion into "most 
ingenious questions and answers ;" though 
his notion that asking and answering ques- 
tions was a new way of divertisement, seems 
to indicate an imperfect knowledge of the 
nature and history of mankind : but my query 
is simply genealogical. H. F. W. 

Sir, The following passage from the 
Anatomy of Melancholy, published 1651, 
struck me as a curious corroboration of the 
passage in Mr. Macaulay's History which 
describes the " young Levite's" position in 
society during the seventeenth century ; and 
as chance lately threw in my way the work 
from which Burton took his illustration, I take 
the liberty of submitting Notes of both for 
your examination. 

" If he be a trencher chaplain in a gentleman's 
house (as it befel Euphorrnio), after some seven 
years' service he may perchance have a living to 

Nov. 10. 1849.] 



the halves, or some small rectory, with the mother 
of the maids at length, a poor kinswoman, or a 
crackt chambermaid, to have and to hold during 
the time of his life." Burton, Anat. of Mel., 
part i. sect. 2. mem. 3. subsect. 15. 

Burton is here referring to the Euphormio- 
nis Lusinini Satyricon, published anno 1617. 
It professes to be a satire, or rather A FURIOUS 
INVECTIVE, on the corrupt manners of the 
times, and is in four parts: the 1st is dedi- 
cated to King James I. ; the 2nd to Robert 
Cecil ; the 3rd to Charles Emanuelof Savoy ; 
the 4th to Louis XTII., King of France. 

The use that Burton makes of the name of 
Euphormio is any thing but happy. He was 
not a "trencher chaplain" but the slave of a 
rich debauchee, Callion, sent in company with 
another slave, Percas, to carry some all-potent 
nostrum to Fibullius, a friend of Callion, who 
was suffering from an attack of stone. Eu- 
phormio cures Fibullius, not by the drug with 
which he was armed, but by a herb, which he 
sought for and found on a mountain. Fibul- 
lius, to reward his benefactor, offers him as a 
wife a most beautiful girl, whom he introduces 
to him privately while in his sick room. Eu- 
phormio looks with no little suspicion on the 
offer; but, after a few excuses, which are 
overruled by Fibullius, accepts the lady as 
his betrothed, " seals the bargain with a holy 
kiss," and walks out of the room (to use his 
own words) " et sponsus, et quod nesciebam 
Pater," page 100. The next mention of 
this lady [evidently the prototype of the 
" crackt chambermaid,''] is in page 138. 
Callion had paid his sick friend Fibullius a 
visit, and, on the eve of his departure, had 
ordered Euphormio to ride post before him, 
and prepare the inhabitants of the districts 
through which he was to pass for his arrival. 
"Whilr Euphormio is on the horseblock in the 
act of mounting his steed, a rustic brings him 
a letter from Fibullius, and in conversation 
L'ivcs him such an account of his bride as 
forces upon him the reflection, that even the 
jrrim Libitina would be preferable, as a bride, 
to so confirmed a Thais, so fruitful a partner, 
as the protegee of Fibullius would be likely to 
prove. But, as these notes have, in spite of 
all my attempts at condensation, already grown 
to a most formidable size, I will not indulge 
in any moral reflections; but conclude by 
querying you, or any of your readers, to in- 

form me whether the personages mentioned 
in the Euphorm. Lus. Satyricon, such as 
Callion, Percas, Fibullius, &c., are real cha- 
racters or not? as, in the former case, I am 
inclined to think that the work might throw 
some interesting lights on the private man- 
ners and characters of some of the courtiers of 
the day. " No scandal against any of the 
maids of honour " of course. The phrase 
" To the halves " (in the quotation from Bur- 
ton) means, inadequate, insufficient ; we still 
talk of " half and half" measures. Montanus 
inveighs against such " perturbations, that 
purge to the halves, tire nature, and molest 
the body to no purpose." Burton, Anat. of 
Mel., part. ii. sect. 2. mem. 4. subsect. 6. 


[The work referred to by our correspondent was 
written by Barclay, better known as the author of 
the Argenis. The First Part of the Satyricori, dedi- 
cated to James the First, was published, London, 
12mo. 1603; and with the addition of the 2nd 
Part, Paris, 1605. The best edition of the work 
(which, really in two parts, is made, by the ad- 
dition of the Apologia Euphormionis, &c. sometimes 
into five) is said to be the Elzevir 12mo., 1637. 
There are two editions of it aim notis variorum, 
Leyden, 1667 and 1669, 8vo., in two volumes. 
Of some of the editions (as that of 1623, 12mo.) 
it is said, " adjecta Clavi sire obscurorum et quasi 
aenigmaticorum nominum, in hoc Opere passim 
occurrentium, dilucidu explicatione.' The Sa- 
tyricon was twice translated into French ; and its 
literary history, and that of the Censura En- 
phormionis, and other tracts which it called forth, 
might furnish a curious and amusing paper.] 


Sir, I have been wanting to get a sight 
of the following work, " Sermones Sancti 
Caroli Borromaei, Archiepisc. Mediol. Edidit 
J. A. Saxius. 5 Tom. Mediol. 1747." Can I 
learn through your columns whether the work 
is any where accessible in London ? I sought 
for it in vain at the British Museum a twelve- 
month ago ; nor, though then placed in their 
list of Libri desiderati, has it yet been pro- 
cured. C. F. SECRETAN. 


Mr. Editor, The following lines, written 
in a hand of the early part of the seventeenth 
century, occur on the fly-leaf of a copy of the 



[No. 2. 

Translation of Luther on the Galatians, edit. 

London, 4to. 1577. Can any of your readers 

oblige me by informing me who was their 

author ? 

" Parum Lutherus ac Erasmus differunt, 
Serpens uterque est, plenus atro toxico ; 
Sed ille mordet ut cerastes in via, 
Hie fraudulentus mordet in silentio." 

Your obedient servant, 





Sir, I should be glad to obtain answers 
to any or all of the following Queries : 

1. What is the origin of the name TOWER 
ROYAL, as applied to a London locality, and 
when did our kings (if they ever inhabited it) 
cease to inhabit it ? 

2. When was CONSTITUTION HILL first so 
called, and why ? 

3. Is there any contemporary copy of the 
celebrated letter said to have been written by 
Anne Pembroke, Dorset and Montgomery, to 
Sir Joseph Williamson? It first appeared in 
The World. 

4. Does a copy exist in MS., or in print, 
of the sermon which Archbishop Tennison 
preached at the funeral of Nell Gwynne ? 



Mr. Editor, I hope you intend to keep a 
corner for Etymologies. 

Query, the origin of the word " Grog ? " 
And why do the people in Suffolk call a lady- 
bird " Bishop Barnaby?" 

If you can enlighten me upon either of 
these points, I shall feel encouraged to try 
again. Yours, &c. LEGOUR. 


The following bibliographical memoranda, 
in the well-known hand of Dr. Farmer, occur 
in a copy of the edition of Drayton's Poems 
published in 1619, in small folio, by John 
Smethwick, which contains " The Barons' 
Wars ; England's Heroical Epistles j Idea ; 

Odes ; The Legends of Robert Duke of Nor- 
mandie, Matilda, Pierce Gaveston, and Great 
Cromwell; TheOwle; and Pastorals, contain- 
ing Eglogues, with the Man in the Moone." 

They may be of use to some future editor 
of Drayton, an author now undeservedly 
neglected, whose Nymphidia alone might 
tempt the tasteful publisher of the " Aldine 
Poets" to include a selection, at least, of his 
poems in that beautiful series : 

" The Works of Michael Drayton, Esq., were 
reprinted in folio, 1748. The title-page 'promises 
all the writings of that celebrated author,' but his 
Pastorals (p. 433. &c., first published imperfectly 
in 4to. 1593) and many other of his most consi- 
derable compositions (Odes, the Owle, &c., see the 
Appendix), are not so much as spoken of. See 
his article in the Biog. Brit, by Mr. Oldys, cu- 
riously and accurately written. 

" Another edition (which is called the best) was 
printed in 4 vols. 8vo. 1753. Robson, 1765. 

" A Poem Triumphant, composed for the Society 
of the Goldsmiths of London, by M. Drayton. 
4to. 1604. Harl. Cat. v. 3. p. 357. 

" Charles Coffey was the editor of the folio edit. 
1748 : he had a large subscription for it, but died 
before the publication ; and it was afterward 
printed for the benefit of his widow. See Mottley, 
p. 201. 

" The print of Drayton at the back of the title- 
page, is marked in Thane's Catalogue, 1774, 7s. 6d. 

" N. B. The copy of the Barons' Warres in this 
edition differs in almost every line from that in the 
8vo. edit. 1610. 

" It- was printed under the title of Morti- 
meriados, in 7 line stanzaes. 

" Matilda was first printed 1594, 4to., by Val. 
Simmes. Gaveston appears by the Pref. to have 
been publish't before. Almost every line in the 
old 4to. of Matilda differs from the copy in this 
edit. ^ A stanza celebrating Shakespeare's Lucrece 
is omitted in the later edition." 

" Idea. The Shepherd's Garland. Fashion'd in 9 
Eglogs. Rowland's sacrifice to the 9 Muses, 4to. 
1593. But they are printed in this Edition very 
different from the present Pastorals. 

"A sonnet of Drayton's prefixed to the 2nd 
Part of Munday's Primaleon of Greece, B. L. 4to. 

[The stanza in Matilda, celebrating Shak- 
spere's Lucrece, to which Dr. Farmer alludes, 
is thus quoted by Mr. Collier in his edition of 
Shakspere (viii. p. 41 1.) : 

" Lucrece, of whom proud Rome hath boasted long, 

Lately revived to live another age, 
And here arrived to tell of Tarquin's wron<*, 
Her chaste denial, and the tyrant's rage, 

Nov. 10. 1849.] 



Acting her passions on our stately stage : 
She is remeinber'd, all forgetting me, 
Yet I as fair and chaste as e'er was she ;" 

who remarks upon it as follows : 

" A difficulty here may arise out of the fifth line, 
as if Drayton were referring to a play upon the 
story of Lucrece, and it is very possible that one 
was" then in existence. Thomas Heywood's tra- 
gedy, * The Rape of Lucrece,' did not appear in 
print until 1608, and he could hardly have been 
old enough to have been the author of such a 
drama in 1594; he may, nevertheless, have availed 
himself of an elder play, and, according to the 
practice of the time, he may have felt warranted in 
publishing it as his own. It is likely, however, that 
1 )nivton's expressions are not to be taken literally , 
and that his meaning merely was, that the story of 
Lucrece had lately been revived, and brought 
upon the stage of the world : if this opinion be 
correct, the stanza we have quoted above contains 
a clear allusion to Shakspeare's * Lucrece ; ' and a 
question then presents itself why Drayton entirely 
omitted it in the after-impressions of his * Matilda.' 
He was a poet who, as we have shown in the In- 
troduction to * Julius Caesar ' (vol. viii. p. 4.), was 
in the habit of making extensive alterations in his 
productions, as they were severally reprinted, and 
the suppression of this stanza may have proceeded 
from many other causes than repentance of the 
praise he had bestowed upon a rival."J 


^ Sir, The following is an extract from a 
Catalogue of Books for sale, issued by Mr. 
Asher, of Berlin, in 18-1-4 : 

" BODENHAM? (LING?), Politeuphuia. Wits 
common wealth ; original wrapper, vellum. VERY 


^ 80/r. 8vo. London, for Nicholas Ling, 1597. 
This book, 'being a methodicall collection of the 
mod choice and select admonitions and sen- 
tences, compendiously drawn from infinite va- 
netie,' is quoted by Lowndes under Bodenham, 
as first pnnt.Ml , 1598; the Epistle dedicatory 
however of the present copy is signed : * N 
Ling, and addressed ' to his very good friend 
"-'; I- 1-,' so that Lin- appean t., toive 
been t author, !in <l tins ;,n edition unknown to 
Lowndes or any other bibliographer.' 1 
This seems to settle one point, perhaps a not 
rey important bne, in our literary history; 
Wld aa sm-h may deserve a place among your 


Mr. Editor, No doubt most of your 
readers are well acquainted with Colley 
Gibber's Apology for his Life, &c., first 
printed, I believe, in 1740, 4to, with a por- 
trait of himself, painted by Vanloo, and en- 
graved by Vanderguclit. Chapters IV. and 
V. contain the celebrated characters he drew 
of the principal performers, male and female, 
in, and just before, his time, viz. Betterton, 
Montfort, Kynaston, &c. ; Mrs. Betterton, 
Mrs. Barry, Mrs. Bracegirdle, &c. Upon 
these characters I have two questions to put, 
which I hope some of your contributors may 
be able to answer. The first is, " Were these 
characters of actors reprinted in the same 
words, and without additions, in the subse- 
quent impressions of Gibber's Apology, in 
8vo ?" Secondly, " Had they ever appeared 
in any shape before they were inserted in the 
copy of Gibber's Apology now before me, in 
1740, 4to?" To this may be added, if con- 
venient, some account of the work in which 
these fine criticisms originally appeared, sup- 
posing they did not first come out in the 
Apology. I am especially interested in the 
history of the Stage about the period when 
the publication of these characters formed an 
epoch. I am, Mr. Editor, yours, 



Mr. Editor, I forward for insertion in 
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taken from the Times of the 20th August, 

" A FORTUNATE COUNTY. In consequence of 
there being no prisoners, nor business of any kind 
to transact at the last assizes for the county of 
Radnor, the high sheriff, Mr. Henry Miles, had to 
present the judge, Mr. Justice Cresswell, with a 
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which have been forwarded to his lordship ; a 
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number of years in that county. His lordship 
remarked that it was the first time it had occurred 
to him since he had been on the Bench." 

And I beg to append to it as a " Query," which 
I shall gladly see answered by any of your 
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M What is the origin of this singular custom, 
ami what is the earliest instance of it on 
record?" A LIMB OF THE LA W . 



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I suppose that the history of travelling in 
this country, from the Creation to the present 
time, may be divided into four periods 
those of no coaches, slow coaches, fast coaches, 
railways. Whether balloons, or rockets, or 
some new mode which as yet has no name, 
because it has no existence, may come next, 
I cannot tell, and it is hardly worth while to 
think about it ; for, no doubt, it will be some- 
thing quite inconceivable* 

The third, or fast-coach period was brief, 
though brilliant. I doubt whether fifty years 
have elapsed since the newest news ia the 
world of locomotive fashion was, that to the 
utter confusion and defacement of the " Sick, 
Lame, and Lazy," a sober vehicle, so called 
from the nature of its cargo, which 
nightly disbanded into comfortable beds at 
Newbury a new post-coach had been set up 
which performed the journey to Bath in a 

single day. Perhaps, the day extended from 
about five o-'clock in the morning to midnight, 
but still the coach. was> as it called itself, a 
" jDo^-coach," for it travelled all day ; and if 
it did somewhat " add the night unto the day, 
and so make up the measure," the passengers 
had all the more for their money, and were 
incomparably better off as to time than they 
had ever been before. But after this many 
years elapsed, before " old Quicksilver" made 
good its ten miles an hour in one unbroken 
trot to Exeter, and was rivalled by "young 
Quicksilver" on the road to Bristol, and 
beaten by the light.-winged Hirondelle, that 
flew from Liverpool to Cheltenham, and 
troops of others, each faster tharv the fore- 
going, each trumpeting its own fame on its 
own improved bugle,, and beating time (all to 
nothing) with sixteen hoofs of invisible swift- 
ness. How they would have- stared if a par- 
liamentary train had passed them, especially 
if they could have heard its inmates grum- 
bling over their slow progress, and declaring 
that it would be almost quicker to get out 
and walk, whenever their jealousy was roused 
by the sudden flash of an express. 

Certainly I was among those who rejoiced 
in the increased expedition of the fast-coach 
period; not because I loved, but because I 
hated, travelling, and was glad to have periods 
of misery abridged. I used to listen with de- 
light to the stories of my seniors, and to 
marvel that in so short a space of time so 
great an improvement had been made. One 
friend told me that in earlier life he had 
travelled from Gloucester to Hereford in a 
coach, which performed the journey of about 
thirty miles between the hours of five in the 
morning and seven in the evening. I took it 
for granted that they stopped on the road to 
dine and spend a long afternoon in smoking, 



[No. 3, 

napping, or playing at bowls. But he would 
not acknowledge anything of the kind, and 
the impression on his mind was that they 
kept going (such going as it was), except 
during the time necessarily expended in bait- 
ing the horses, who, I think, were not changed 
unless indeed it were from bad to worse by 
fatigue. Another friend, a physician at Shef- 
field, told me that one of the first times (per- 
haps he may have said, the first) that a coach 
started for London, he was a passenger. 
Without setting out unreasonably early in 
the morning, or travelling late at night, they 
made such progress, that the first night they 
lay at Nottingham, and the second at Market 
Harborough. The third morning they were 
up early, and off at five o'clock ; and by a 
long pull and a strong pull through a long 
day, they were in time to hear Bow Church 
clock strike eleven or twelve (I forget which) 
as they passed through Cheapside. In fact, 
such tilings have always seemed to me to be 
worth noting, for you never can tell to what 
extent, or even in what direction, they may 
throw some little ray of light on an obscure 
point of history. On this principle I thought 
it worth while to copy an original bill which 
lately fell into my hands. Many such have 
been reprinted, but I am not aware that this 
one has ; and as what is wanted is a series, 
every little may help. It is as follows : 

YORK Four Dayes 

" Stage-Coach 
" Begins on Monday the 18 of March 1678. 

A 1I v ha , fc are desirous ^ pass from London to 

\ ?' or return froni York to London or 

any other Place on that Road; Let them Repair 

to the Black Swan in Ilolborn in London and the 

Black Swan in Cony-Street in York 

"At both which places they may be received in 
a Stage-Coach every Monday, Wednesday, and 
jnday , which performs the whole journey in Four 
'lays (if God permit) and sets forth by Six in the 

"And returns from York to Doncaster in a 
J-orenoon to Newark in a day and a half, to Stam- 
fonl m Iwo days, and from Stamford to London 
in Iwo days more 

("Henry Moulen 

Performed by J Margaret Gardner 
[Francis Gardner." 

I cannot deny that, while I have lis- 
tened to, and rejoiced in, these stories, I have 

had some doubt whether full justice has been 
done to the other side of the question. I 
have always felt as if I had a sort of guilty 
knowledge of one contradictory fact, which I 
learned between twenty and thirty years ago, 
and which no one whom I have yet met with 
has been able to explain. For this reason I 
am desirous to lay it before you and your 

Just one hundred years ago that is to 
say, on Sunday the 10th of August, 1749 
two German travellers landed at Harwich. 
The principal one was Stephen Schultz, who 
travelled for twenty years through various 
parts of Europe, Asia, and Africa, in the ser- 
vice of the Callenberg Institution at Halle, of 
which he was afterwards Director, being at 
the same time Pastor of St. Ulrica's Church 
in that city, where his picture is (or was 
about twenty years ago) to be seen affixed to 
the great pillar next the organ. It repre- 
sents him as an elderly divine in a black cap, 
and with a grave and prediger-like aspect ; 
but there is another likeness of him an en- 
graved print in which he looks more like a 
Turk than a Christian. He is dressed in a 
shawl turban, brickdust-red mantle, and the 
rest of the costume which he adopted in his 
Eastern travels. Our business, however, is 
with his English adventures, which must, I 
think, have astonished him as much as any- 
thing that he met with in Arabia, even if he 
acted all the Thousand and One Nights on 
the spot. As I have already said, he and his 
companion (Albrecht Friedrich Woltersdorf, 
son of the Pastor of St. George's Church in 
Berlin), landed at Harwich on Sunday, Au- 
gust 10. They staid there that night, and on 
Monday they walked over to Colchester. 
There (I presume the next morning) they 
took the " Land-Kutsche," and were barely 
six hours on the road to London. 

This statement seems to me to be so at 
variance with notorious facts, that, but for one 
or two circumstances, I should have quietly 
set it down for a mistake ; but as I do not feel 
that I can do this, I should be glad to obtain 
information which may explain it. It is no 
error of words or figures, for the writer ex- 
presses very naturally, the surprise which he 
certainly must have felt at the swiftness of 
the horses, and the goodness of the roads. 
He was a man who had seen something of 

Nov. 17. 1849.] 



the world, for he had lived five-and-thirty 
years, thirteen of which had elapsed since he 
began his travels. As a foreigner he was 
under no temptation to exaggerate the supe- 
riority of English travelling, especially to an 
extent incomprehensible by his countrymen ; 
and, in short, I cannot imagine any ground for 
suspecting mistake or untruth of any kind.* 

I have never been at Colchester, but I be- 
lieve it is, and always was, full fifty miles 
from London. Ipswich, I believe, is only 
eighteen miles farther ; and yet fifteen years 
later we find an advertisement (Daily Adver- 
tiser -, Thursday, Aug. 30. 1764), announcing 
that London and Ipswich Post Coaches on 
steel springs, (think of that and think of the 
astonished Germans careering over the coun- 
try from Colchester without that mitigation,) 
from London to Ipswich in ten hours with 
Postillions, set out every morning at seven 
o'clock, Sundays excepted, from the Black 
Bull Inn, in Bishopsgate Street. 

It is right, however, to add that the Ilerr 
Prediger Schultz and his companion appear 
to have returned to Colchester, on their way 
back to Germany, at a much more moderate 
pace. The particulars do not very exactly 
appear ; but it seems from his journal that on 
the 16th of September they dined with the 
Herr Prediger Pittius, minister of the German 
Church in the Savoy, at twelve o'clock (nach 
leutscher art, as the writer observes). They 
then went to their lodging, settled their 
accounts, took up their luggage, and pro- 
ceeded to the inn from which the " Stats- 
Kutsche" was to start ; and on arriving there 
found some of their friends assembled, who 
had ordered a meal, of which they partook. 
How much time was occupied in all this, or 
when the coach set out, does not appear ; but 
they travelled the whole night, and until 
towards noon the next day, before they got to 
Colchester. This is rather more intelligible ; 

* It is perhaps right to give his words. Speaking 
of a person who acted as their guide, he says : "I Vs 
folgenden Tages gieng er mit uns 22 engl. Meik-n l>is 
Colchester zu Fuss; wo wir uns auf die Land-Kutsche 
verdungen, mit welcher wir 50 englische Meilen d. i. 
10 teutsche Meilen bis London, in solcher Geschwind- 
igkeit endigten, dass wir auf dem ganzen Wege kaum 
6 Stundcn gefahren sind ; so schm-11 gehen die enirli- 
schen Pferde ; aber auch so schon sind die englisrh, n 
Wo-re." Der Leitunyen des Hochsten" &c. Zw. Theil. 
Halle, 1772, p. 62. 

but as to their up-journey I really am puzzled, 
and shall be glad of any explanation. 

Yours, &c. G. G. 


Mr. Editor, Among the well-wishers to 
your projected periodical, as a medium of 
literary communication, no one would be more 
ready to contribute to it than myself, did 
the leisure I enjoy permit me often to do so. 
I have been a maker of Notes and Queries 
for above twenty-five years, and perhaps 
should feel more inclined to trouble you with 
the latter than the former, in the hope of 
clearing up some of the many obscure points 
in our history, biography, and poetical lite- 
rature, which have occurred to me in the 
course of my reading. At present, as a very 
inadequate specimen of what I once designed 
to call Leisure Moments, I beg to copy the 
following Note from one of my scrap-books: 

In the year 1420, the Florentines sent an 
embassy to the state of Venice, to solicit them 
to unite in a league against the ambitious 
progress of Filippo Maria Visconti, Duke of 
Milan ; and the historian Daru, in his Histoire 
de Venise, 8vo, Paris, 1821, has fallen into 
more than one error in his account of the 
transaction. Marino Sanuto, who wrote the 
lives of the Doges of Venice in 1493 (Daru 
says, erroneously, some fifty years afterwards), 
has preserved the orations made by the Doge 
Tomaso Mocenigo, in opposition to the Flo- 
rentine proposals ; which he copied, accord- 
ing to his statement, from a manuscript that 
belonged to the Doge himself. Daru states, 
that the MS. was communicated to him by 
the Doge; but that could not be, since the 
Doge died in 1423, and Sanuto was not born 
till 1466. An abridged translation of these 
Orations is given in the Histoire de Venise, 
torn. ii. pp. 289 311. ; and in the [first of 
these, pronounced in January, 1420 (1421, 
Daru), he is made to say, in reference to an 
ambassador sent by the Florentines to the 
Duke of Milan, in 1414, as follows : "L'am- 
bassadeur fut un Juif, nomme Valori, ban- 
quier de sa profession," p. 291. As a com- 
mentary on this passage, Daru subjoins a 
note from the Abbe Laugier, who, in his His- 
toire de Venise, liv. 21., remarks, 1. That it 
appears strange the Florentines should have 


[No. 3, 

chosen a Jew as an ambassador ; 2. That his 
surname was Bartolomeo, which could not 
have been borne by a Jew ; 3. That the Flo- 
rentine historian Poggio speaks of Valori as 
having been one of the principal members of 
the Council of Florence. The Abbe thence 
justly concludes, that the ambassador could 
not have been a Jew ; and it is extraordinary 
that Daru, after such a conclusive argument, 
should have admitted the term Jew into his 
text. But the truth is, that this writer (like 
many others of great reputation) preferred 
blindly following the text of Sanuto, as printed 
by Muratori*, to the trouble of consulting 
any early manuscripts. It happens, however, 
that in a manuscript copy of these Orations of 
Mocenigo, written certainly earlier than the 
period of Sanuto, and preserved in the British 
Museum, MS. Add. 12, 121., the true reading 
of the passage may be found thus : " Fo 
mandato Bartolomeo Valori, homo richo, el 
qual viveva de eambij." By later tran- 
scribers the epithet richo, so properly here 
bestowed on the Florentine noble, was changed 
into iudio (giudeo), and having been trans- 
ferred in that shape into Sanuto, has formed 
the groundwork of a serious error, which has 
now existed for more than three centuries 
and a half. FREDERICK MADDEN. 

British Museum, Nov. 7. 1849, 

[The following letters will be best illustrated by a 
few words derived from the valuable life of our great 
naval hero lately published by Mr. Pettigrew. Besides 
his last will, properly so called, which had been some 
time executed, Lord Nelson wrote and signed another 
paper of a testamentary character immediately before 
he commenced the battle of Trafalgar. It contained 
an enumeration of certain public services performed by 
Lady Hamilton, and a request that she might be pro- 
vided for by the country. Could I have rewarded 
those services," Lord Nelson says, I would not now 
call upon my country ; but as that has not been in my 
power, I leave Emma Hamilton, therefore, a legacy to 
my king and country, that will give her an ample 
provision to maintain her rank in life. " He also recom- 
1 to the beneficence of his country his adopted 

* In the Rerum Italicarum Scriptores, torn, xxii 
to . 947., the passage stands thus : Fu mandato Bart 
tolomeo Valor., horn 9 i w leo, el qual vivea di cambi." 
Two ate copies of Sanuto, formerly in the Guildford 
collection and now m the British Museum, MS. Add 
8575, 8576, read, Bartoli Valori, horn iudio " 

daughter. " My relations," he concludes, ' it is need- 
less to mention ; they will of course be amply provided 

This paper was delivered over to Lord Nelson's 
brother, together with his will. Earl Nelson, with 
his wife and family, were then with Lady Hamilton, 
and had indeed been living with her many months. 
To their son Horatio, afterwards Viscount Trafalgar, 
she was as attentive as a mother, and their daughter 
had been almost exclusively under her care for edu- 
cation for six years. The Earl kept the codicil in 
his pocket until the day 12O,000/. was voted for 
him by the House of Commons. On that day he 
dined with Lady Hamilton in Clarges Street, and 
learning at table what had been done, he brought forth 
the codicil, and throwing it to Lady Hamilton, coarsely 
said, she might now do with it as she pleased." 
Pettigrew's Memoirs of Nelson, ii. 24, 625. Lady 
Hamilton took the paper to Doctors' Commons, where 
it stands registered as a codicil to Nelson's will. A 
knowledge of these circumstances is necessary to the 
full understanding of our correspondent's communi- 

SIR, The following letters may be found 
interesting as illustrative of the private his- 
tory of Lord Nelson, to which public attention 
has been strongly drawn of late by the able 
work of Mr. Pettigrew. The letters were 
addressed by Earl Nelson to the Rev. A. J. 
Scott, the friend and chaplain of the fallen 

18. Charles Street, Berkeley Square, 

Dec. 2. 1 805. 

Dear Sir, I am this day favoured with your 
obliging letter of October 27.* The afflicting in- 
telligence you designed to prepare me for had 
arrived much sooner ; but I am duly sensible of 
the kind motive which induced this mark of your 
attention and remembrance. 

The King has been pleased to command that his 
great and gallant servant shall be buried with 
funeral honours suitable to the splendid services 
he rendered to his country, and that the body 
shall be conveyed by water to Greenwich, in order 
to be laid in state. For myself I need not say 
how anxious I am to pay every tribute of affection 
and of respect to my honoured and lamented bro- 
ther's remains. And it affords me great satisfaction 
to learn your intention of accompanying them till 
deposited in their last earthly mansion. The coffin 
made of the L'Orient's mast will be sent to 
Greenwich to await the arrival of the body, and I 
hope there to have an opportunity of making my 
acknowledgments in person. 
Believe me, dear Sir, 

Your faithful friend, 

and obedient humble servant, 

* The Battle of Trafalgar was fought October 21 

Nov. 17. 1849.] 



I beg the favour of your transmitting to me 
by the first safe opportunity such of my dear 
brother's papers (not of a public nature) as are 
under your care, and of making for me (with my 
sincere regards and kind compliments) to Captain 
Hardy the like request. 

Please to let me hear from you the moment 
you arrive at Portsmouth, and direct to me as 
above, when I will send you any further directions 
I may have received from ministers. 

18. Charles Street, Berkeley Square, 

Dec. 6. 1805. 

My dear Sir, I have this moment received 
your kind letter. I do not know I can add any 
thing to my former letter to you, or to what I 
have written to Captain Hardy. I will speak fully 
to Mr. Chevalier * before he leaves me. 

Your faithful and obliged humble servant, 


It will be of great importance that I am in 
possession of his last will and codicils as soon as 
possible no one can say that it does not contain, 
among other things, many directions relative to 
his funeral. 

18. Charles Street, Berkeley Square, 
Dec. 13. 1805. 

Dear Sir, I have been to the Admiralty, and 
I am assured that leave will be sent to you to quit 
the ship, and follow the remains of my dear bro- 
ther when you please. We have determined to 
send Mr. Tyson with the coffin to the Victory, 
when we know she is at the Nore. He, together 
with Captain Hardy and yourself, will see the body 
safely deposited therein. I trust to the affection 
of all for that. The Admiralty will order the 
Commissioners' yacht at Sheerness to receive it, 
and bring it to Greenwich. I suppose an order 
from the Admiralty will go to Captain Hardy to 
deliver the body to Mr. Tyson, and you will of 
course attend. But if this should be omitted by 
any mistake of office, I trust Captain Hardy will 
| have no difficulty. 

There is no hurry m it, as the funeral will not 
be till the 10th or 12th of January. 

We do not wish to send Tyson till we have the 
will and codicil, which Captain Hardy informed 
me was to come by Captain Blackwood from 
Portsmouth on Tuesday last. We are surprised 
he is not here. Compts. to Captain 
Write to me as soon as you get to the Nore, or 
before, if you can. 

Believe me, yours faithfully, 


Excuse this hasty and blotted scrawl, as I have 
been detained so long at the Admiralty that I 
have scarce time to save the Post. 

* Lord Nelson's steward in the Victory. 

Dec. 26. 1 805. 

Dear Sir, 1 received your letters of the 23rd 
and 25th this morning. 1 am glad to hear the re- 
mains of my late dear and most illustrious brother 
are at length removed to Mr. Peddieson's coffin, 
and safely deposited in Greenwich Hospital. Your 
kind and affectionate attention throughout the 
whole of this mournful and trying scene cannot 
fail to meet my sincere and most grateful thanks, 
and that of the whole family. I am perfectly 
satisfied from the surgeon's reports which have 
been sent to me, that every thing proper has been 
done. I could wish to have known wnat has been 
done with the bowels whether they were thrown 
overboard, or whether they were preserved to be 
put into the coffin with the body. The features 
being now lost, the face cannot, as Mr. Beatty 
very properly observes, be exposed : I hope, there- 
fore, every thing is closed and soldered down. 

I wrote to Mr. Tyson a few days ago, and 
should be glad to hear from him. I mean to go 
towards London about the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd of 
Jan. (the day not yet fixed), and call at Green- 
wich for a moment, just to have a melancholy sight 
of the coffin, &c. &c., when I hope I shall see you. 

I shall be glad to hear from you as often as you 
have any thing new to communicate, and how the 
preparations go on. Every thing now is in the 
hands of government, but, strange to tell, I have 
not yet heard from the Herald's Office, whether/ 
am to attend the procession or not. 

Believe me, 
Your much obliged humble servant, 


The codicil referred to in these letters 
proved to be, or at least to include, that 
memorable document which the Earl sup- 
pressed, when he produced the will, lest it 
should curtail his own share of the amount 
of favour which a grateful country would be 
anxious to heap on the representatives of the 
departed hero. By this unworthy conduct 
the fortunes of Lady Hamilton and her still 
surviving daughter were at once blighted. 

The Earl as tightly held 1 all he had, as lie 
grasped aH he could get. It was expected 
that he wonld resign his stall at Canterbury 
in favour of his brother's faithful chaplain, 
and when he " held on," notwithstanding his 
peerage and riches, he was attacked in the 
newspapers. The following letter is the last 
communication with which Dr. Scott was 
honoured, for his work was done : 

Canterbury, May 28. 18CV7. 

Sir, I am glad to find, by your letter, that 
you are not concerned in the illiberal and un- 



[No. 3. 

founded paragraphs which have appeared and daily 
are appearing in the public prints. 

I am, Sir, your very humble servant, 


The Rev. Dr. Scott. 

The above have never been printed, and I 
shall be glad if they are thought worthy of a 
place in your very useful and interesting 
periodical. I am, Sir, &c. 


Ecclesfield, 7th Nov. 1849. 


Mr. Editor, The offence of misquoting 
the poets is become so general, that I would 
suggest to publishers the advantage of printing 
more copious indexes than those which are now 
offered to the public. For the want of these, 
the newspapers sometimes make strange blun- 
ders. The Times, for instance, has lately, 
more than once, given the following version 
of a well-known couplet : 

"Vice is a monster of so frightful mien, 
As to be hated needs but to be seen," 

The reader's memory will no doubt instantly 
substitute such hideous for " so frightful," and 
that for " as." 

The same paper, a short time since, made 
sad work with Moore, thus: 

"You may break, you may ruin the vase if you will, 
But the scent of the roses will hang by it still." 

Moore says nothing about the scents hanging 
by the vase. " Hanging" is an odious term, 
and destroys the sentiment altogether. What 
Moore really does say is this: 

" You may break, you may ruin the vase if you will, 
But the scent of the roses will cling round it still." 

Now the couplet appears in its original beauty 
It is impossible to speak of the poets with- 
out thinking of Shakspeare, who towers above 
them all. We have yet to discover an editor 
capable of doing him full justice. Some of 
Johnson's notes are very amusing, and those 
of recent editors occasionally provoke a smile 
If once a blunder has been made, it is persisted 
in. Take, for instance, a glaring one in the 
2nd part of Henry IV., where in the apos 
trophe to sleep, "clouds" is substituted fo 
" shrouds." 

' Wilt thou, upon the high and giddy mast, 
Seal up the ship-boy's eyes, and rock his brain 

In cradle of the rude imperious surge, 
And in the visitation of the winds, 
Who take the ruffian billows by the ton, 
Curling their monstrous heads, and hanging them 
With deafening clamours in the slippery clouds, 
That with the hurly death itself awakes ? 
That shrouds is the correct word is so ob- 
ious, that it is surprising any man of common 
nderstanding should dispute it. Yet we find 
he following note in Knight's pictorial edi- 
on : 

" Clouds. Some editors have proposed to read 
hrouds. A line in Julius Caesar makes Shaks- 
)ere's meaning clear : 

" ' I have seen 

Th' ambitious ocean swell, and rage, and foam, 
To be exalted with the threatening clouds' " 
Clouds in this instance is perfectly con- 
istent ; but here the scene is altogether dif- 
erent. We have no ship-boy sleeping on the 
giddy mast, in the midst of the shrouds, or 
ropes, rendered slippery by the perpetual 
dashing of the waves against them during the 

If in Shakspeare's time the printer's rule of 
'following copy" had been as rigidly ob- 
served as in our day, errors would have been 
avoided, for Shakspeare's MS. was sufficiently 
clear. In the preface to the folio edition of 
1623, it is stated that "his mind and hand 
went together ; and what he thought he ut- 
tered with that easinesse that wee have scarce 
received from him a blot in his papers." 


8th Nov. 1849. 



Mr, Editor, I am induced to mention the 
following misstatement in Herbert's edition 
of Ames' Typographical Antiquities, en- 
larged by Dibdin, not by its importance, but 
by its supplying an appropriate specimen of 
the benefits which would be conferred on 
bibliography by your correspondents com- 
plying with Dr. Maitland's recommendations. 

" Mr. Bindley," says Dibdin, " is in possession 
of the original impression of Borde's Soke of the 
Introduction of Knowledge, which was successively 
in the collection of West and Pearson. This copy, 
and another in the Chetham Library at Manchester, 
are the only ones known with the following im 

Nov. 17. 1849.] 



print: 'Copland in Fletestrete, at the signe of the 
Rose Garland. 1 In the Selden Collection, in the 
Bodleian Library, and in the copy from which 
Mr. Upcott published his reprint, we read on the 
recto of the last leaf, * Imprented at London 
in Lothbury oner agaynste Sainct Margaryte's 
Church, by me Wyllyam Copland." 

The copy in the Chetham Library, now 
lying before me, corresponds with the de- 
scription of the latter impression. Dibdin's 
mistake perhaps originated in the last page 
of the work preceding Borde, which is bound 
up with four other works, having the follow- 
ing : " Imprinted at London in Fleetestrete, 
by Henry Wykes." 

This volume contains 

" The Choisc of Change : 

Containing the Triplicitie of Diuinitie, Philosophic, 
and Poetrie, Short for memorie, Profitable for 
Knowledge, and necessary for Manors ; whereby 
the learned may be confirmed, the ignorant in- 
structed, and all men generally recreated. Newly 
set forth by S. R., Gent and Student in the Uni- 
versitie of Cambridge. Tria sunt omnia. At 
London, Printed by Roger Warde, dwelling neere 
Holborne Conduite, at the sign of the Talbot, An. 
Dom. 1585." 

These letters, S. R., are the well known 
initials of Samuel Rowlands, who appears to 
have been a Welshman, from his love of 
Triads, and from the dedications found in 
this the rarest of his works, and those de- 
scribed by Mr. Collier in his Catalogue of the 
Bridgewater House Collection. In the same 
volume is comprised a tract by Greene, with 
a copy of which Mr. Dyce could never meet, 
entitled The Royal Exchange, printed in 
1590. T. JONES. 


The following lines are copied from the fly 
leaf of a copy of the Necessary Doctrine and 
Erudition. Are they original ? 
Anno Dni md47. 


Davyd's seat vnto the we comend 
Salomon's wysdome god the send 
lohnes valiauntnesse in the restc 
Theys iij in oon be in thy brest. 
A Description of a Kyng after Scripture. 
l'r"t. 21. The hart of a kyng is in goddes hande 
X"l>. 6. The strcngthu of a realuie ys a ryght- 
eouse kyng 

Deut. 17. The kyng ought to kepe hym in the 


Reg. 20. Of the lawe of god the same readynge 
Prov. 20. Kyngs be happye in mercy doyng 
3 Reg. 3. Askynge wysdome of god oiiiipotent 

To discerne good from an evyll thyng 
Prov. 25. Take awaye vngodlines from the Kyng 
And his seat shall be stablyshed with 

ryght j udgmet 
Let vs pray for the Kyng and hym 


EDWARD the sext our earthlye socour 
God save y e Kyng. 


Mr. Editor, The recent publication of 
Macaulay's History of England, and the fresh 
prominence given thereby to the occurrences 
of the Revolution of 1688, have induced me, 
joined to a wish for the success of your hap- 
pily-conceived work, to send you the following 
" Note." It was drawn up by the late Sir 
Harris Nicolas, and printed in the Pro- 
ceedings of the late Record Commissioners. 
As, however, only fifty copies were printed 
for the use of the Commissioners, and a copy 
is rarely met with, perhaps this Note may have 
sufficient novelty for insertion. Sir Harris 
Nicolas, as editor of the Proceedings of the 
Privy Council, would doubtless, had that 
work been continued to 1688, have used the 
MS. if attainable. 

" Notice of Manuscript in the possession of 
the Rev. Sir Thomas Miller, Bart., containing the 
original Minutes of the Assembly of Peers and 
Privy Councillors that met at Guildhall, upon the 
flight of James II. from London. 
" Extracts from Memorandum of a MS. in the 
possession of the Rev. Sir Thomas Miller, Bart., 
shown to Mr. Cooper, Secretary to the Record 
Commissioners, to Sir Harris Nicolas, and to 
Mr. Hardy, in May, 1833, at Sir Thomas Miller's 
lodgings in the Edgware Road. 
" Immediately after the flight of James the 
Second from London, on the llth of December, 
1688, a tumult arose among the citizens which 
created considerable alarm ; and with the view of 
preserving the peace, of imparting public confi- 
dence, and of providing for the extraordinary state 
of affairs, all the Peers and Privy Councillors then 
in the vicinity of the metropolis assembled at 
Guildhall. Of this important Assembly, Bishop 
Burnet's notice is very brief, and it would appear 
from his statement th:it it was called by the Lord 
Alayor.* A more full account of the Convention 
* After mentioning the excesses committed by the 



[No. 3. 

is, however, given in the Memoir of James the 
Second published by Dr. Clarke : ' It seems, upon 
1 the Kind's withdrawing from London, the lords 
< about town met at Guildhall to consult what was 
fit to be done. They looked upon the present 

* state of affairs as an interregnum, that the govern- 
' oient was in a manner devolved upon them, and 

* were in great haste to make a present of it to 
'the Prince of Orange,'* Other acts of this 
Assembly are then mentioned ; -and its proceed- 
ing are among the most interesting and important 
event* in English history, not -only from their 
forming a precedent in a conjuncture of affairs 
for whfch no express provision is to be found in 
the constitution, but from the first regular offer of 
the throne to the Prince of Orange having ema- 
nated from this Convention. No Record of its 
proceedings has, it is presumed, been hitherto 
known to exist ; and the fact that so valuable a 
Document is extant, cannot be too generally 
stated, for it is obvious that it has high claims to 
the attention of historians. 

" Sir Thomas Miller possesses the original Mi nutes 
of this Assembly of the Peers in the .handwriting 
of a Mr. Glyn, who acted as secretary. His ap- 
pointment to that situation is also preserved ; and, 
as it is signed by .all the Lords who were present, 
it affords evidence of the names of the Peers who 
took part in the business of the Assembly, and 
contains a very interesting -collection of auto- 

" The MS. itself is a small folio, but 'not above 
fifty pages are filled. It comprises the period 
between the Jlth and the 28th December, 1688, 
both days inclusive, and appears to be a perfect 
Record of every Act of that memorable Assembly. 
The indorsement on the cover merits notice : it 
states with singular minuteness the precise hour 
of James's abdication, namely, at one in the morn- 
ing of the llth of December, 1688."" 

Sir Thomas Miller also possessed a manu- 
script, containing an " Account of the Earl of 
Rochester, 'Captain Kendall, and the Nar- 
rator's Journey to Salisbury with King James, 
Monday, Nov. 19. to Friday, Nov. 23. 1688, 

In connection with this subject, it may be 

mob, and the arrest of Judge Jefferies, Bishop Buruat 
says: "'Die Lord Mayor was so struck with ihe 
terror of this rude populace, and with the disgrace of a 
man who had made all people tremble before him, that 
he fell into fits upon it, of which he died soon after. 

" To prevent the further growth of such disasters, he 
called a Meeting of the Privy Councillors and Peers, 
who met at Guildhall," &c. The pronoun he must re- 
late to the Lord Mayor, hut the sentence is obscurely 

* Vol. ii. pp. 259, 260. 

noticed that there is no entry of any payment 
in the Issue Books of 'the clerks of the Pells 
between Tuesday, llth December, and Monday 
24th December, 1688. J. E. 

[Perhaps some of our correspondents could in- 
form us where the MSS. in question are now de- 


NO. 1. 

" Oh, do not read history, for that I know must be 

gi r> I have from time to time made a few 

notes on our historical writers rather I 
should say the conflicting opinions of critical 
writers on their relative value, and the de- 
pendence to be placed on them as historical 
guides. -They are so opposite, as would in a 
great measure confirm the opinion of the cele- 
brated statesman above quoted. I send, as 
a specimen, the opinions upon Buruet, and, 
should its insertion in your " NOTES AND 
QUERIES" be deemed advisable, I will from 
time to time send others which I have in 
my note-book. M. 

Burnet, " A good historian and an honest man." 
Lord Brougham. 

" The History of his Own Times, which Burnet left 
behind him, is .a work of great instruction and amuse- 
ment His ignorance of parliamentary forms has led 

him into some errors, it would be absurd to deny, but 
these faults do not detract from the general usefulness 
of his work." Lord John Russell. 

" The most partial, malicious .heap of scandal and 
misrepresentation, that was ever xsollected for the laud- 
able design of giving a false impression of persons and 
things to all future ages." Lord Dartmouth : note in 
Dr. RoutJCs edition. 

" A rash and partial writer."* Macaulay. 

" It is a piece of justice I owe to historical truth to 
say, that I have never tried Burnet's facts by the tests 
of dates and of original papers, without finding them 
wrong."" Sir J. Dalrymple. 

"'Burnet had all the merits and all the faults of an 
-ardent, impetuous, headstrong man, whose mind was 
honest, and whose objects were noble. Whatever he 
reports himself to have heard or seen, the reader may 
be assured he really did hear and see. But he must 

* [Our correspondent should have added exact re- 
ferences to the places where these passages are to be 
found. Mr. Macaulay may have written these words 
quoted by our correspondent, in some hasty moment, 
but his summary of the character of Burnet in his His- 
tory of England, ii. 175. 2nd edition a very noble 
and well considered passage gives a very different 
and far juster estimate of Burnet's character.] 

Nov. 17. 1849.] 



receive his representations and conclusions with that 
caution which must ever be observed when we listen to 
the relation of a warm and busy partizan, whatever be 
his natural integrity and good sense." Smyth's Lec- 
tures on Modern History. 

"His history is one which the present editor (Dr. 
Routh) truly says will never lose its importance, but 
will continue to furnish materials for other historians, 
and to be read by those who wish to derive their know- 
ledge of facts from the first sources of information. The 
accuracy of his narrative has often been attacked with 
vehemence, and often, it must be confessed, with success, 
but not so often as to overthrow the general credit of 
his work." Quarterly Review. 

44 Rarely polished, I never read so ill a style." Swift. 


Your readers may be curious to see a list 
of the persons composing the domestic esta- 
blishment (as it may be called) of Queen 
Elizabeth in the middle of her reign, and an 
account of the sums of money severally allowed 
to them out of the privy purse of the sove- 
reign. The payments will seem remarkably 
small, even allowing for the great difference 
in the value of money then and now. What 
that difference may be, I am not prepared to 
say; and I will venture here to put it as a 
"Query," to be answered by some competent 
person who may read this " Note." I have 
seen it stated, by more than one writer, that 
the difference in the value of money at the 
end of Elizabeth's reign was at least five times, 
t. e. that one pound then would go as far 
as five pounds now ; but I am not aware of the 
data upon which the calculation was made. 
I apprehend, besides, that the difference was 
greater in 1582, to which what follows ap- 
plies, than afterwards, and I should be glad 
to have the matter cleared up. The subse- 
quent account is endorsed in the handwriting 
of Lord Burghley, Lord Treasurer, in these 
words : "1 582. The payment of the Ladies 
of the Privy Chamber;" but it applies also 
to the gentlemen. 

Wages paid to the Privy Chamber by the Year. 
The Bedchamber : s. G 

The Lady Cobham, by the year 
The Lady Carcwe 
Mrs. Blanch Apprye* 
Gentlewomen of the Privy Chamber: 
Bridget Cave 


- 33 6 8 

* The names are spelt precisely as they stand in the 
document itself. 

The Lady Howard 

The Lady Stafford - 

The Lady Arundell " 

The Lady Leighton 

Frances Howard 

Dorothy Edmundes 
Chainberers : 

The Lady Bartlett 

The Lady Drury 

Mrs. Mary Skydmore 

Mrs. Katherine Newton - : - 

Mrs. Jane Brucella 
Gentlemen of the Privy Chamber : 

Sir Christopher Hatton, Knight - 

John Ashley, Esq. - - 33 

Gentleman Usher of the Privy Chamber : 

Sir Drew Drury, Knight 
Grooms of the Privy Chamber : 

Thomas Ashley - 

Henry Sackford - 

John Baptiste 

Thomas Knevett 

Edward Carey - 

Thomas Gorge - 

William Killigrew 

Summa totalis 




*. d. 

6 8 

6 8 

6 8 

6 8 

6 8 

6 8 

6 8 

- 30 


- 673 6 8 

The above 6731. 6s. Sd. was the whole sum 
paid out of the privy purse; but it is to be 
borne in mind that these persons were allowed 
diet and lodging in Court, so, that, after all, 
the payments were not quite as insignificant 
as they may at first seem. Whatever, also, 
may have been the case with the ladies, it 
is certain that the gentlemen had other 
sources of emolument derived from the Crown, 
such as monopolies, valuable grants of royal 
domains, leases of customs, &c., which alto- 
gether made up an ample income. Sir Chris- 
topher Hatton, for instance, could not have 
built Holdenby out of his 50/. a year as Gen- 
tleman of the Privy Chamber. 



Sir, In my commonplace book I find the 
following notes, being extracts from the an- 
cient Registers of East Peckham Church, 
Kent, which have never (I believe) been pub- 
lished, and which may perhaps be of service 
to the historian or antiquary. 
1637. This yeare was the Communion-table ray led in 
by the appointment of D r Ry ves, Dean of Shor 



[No. 3. 

ham Deanery, and Chancellor to the most Re- 
verend Father in God, William Laud, Archbishop 
of Canterbury, who commanded this uniformity 
to be general throughout the kingdom. 
1638. This time of Lent being to be kept holy by 
fasting and abstinence from flesh, notwithstand- 
ing S ir Roger Twisden, K nt and Baronett and 
Dame Isabella his wife, being both very sick and 
weake, in my judgement and opinion [are] to be 
tolerated for the eating of flesh. 


A similar entry occurs for the three follow- 
ing years. 

1648. Upon the third of June the following Infants 
all born in the parish of Brenchley were bap- 
tized in this parish Church, by an order granted 
from Sir John Sedley, Knight and Baronett, Sir 
John Rayney, and Sir Isaac Sedley, Knights : 
" Whereas complaints have often been made unto us 
by many of the principal inhabitants of the Parish of 
Brenchley, that they having desired Mr. Gilbert, mi- 
nister of the said Parish, to baptize their children, and 
according to the Directorie offered to present them 
before the Congregation, he hath neglected or refused 
so to do ; whereby divers infants remain unbaptized, 
some of them above a year old, expressly contrary to 
the said Directorie. 

" We do therefore order that the parents of such 
children do bring them unto the Parish Church of East 
Peckham, where we desire that M r Topping, minister 
of the said Parish, would baptize them according to 
the sayd Directorie, they acquainting him with the 
day they intend to bring them beforehand. 
" Dated ye 25 th of May 1648. 


The last extract may illustrate the progress 
of Anabaptism, under the Parliamentary rule, 
and serves by way of curious sequel to the 
preceding excerpta. 

In a window of the same church I observed 
this inscription : " Here stoode the wicked 
fable of Mychael waying of [souls]. By the 
law of Qvene Elizabeth according to God[s] 
Word is taken away." C. F. S. 

^ Mr. Editor, The Edinburgh Reviewer, 
cited by your correspondent Mr. W. J. Thorns, 
seems to have sought rather too far for the 
origin of a pawnbroker's golden balls. 

He is right enough in referring their origin 
to the Italian bankers, generally called Lom- 
bards; but he has overlooked the fact that 
the greatest of those traders in money were 
the celebrated and eventually princely house 

of the Medici of Florence. They bore pills 
on their shield, (and those pills, as usual then, 
were gilded,) in allusion to the professional 
origin from whence they had derived the 
name of Medici ; and their agents in England 
and other countries put that armorial bearing 
over their doors as their sign, and the re- 
putation of that house induced others to put 
up the same sign. H. W. 


Mr. Editor, Some one of your readers 
may be interested in knowing that there was 
a royal menagerie in the Tower of London in 
the reign of Edward III. In the Issue Eoll 
of the forty-fourth year of his reign, 1370, 
there are five entries of payments made to 
" William de Garderobe, keeper of the king's 
lions and leopards" there, at the rate of 6d. 
a day for his wages, and 6d. a day for each 
beast, pp. 25. 216. 298. 388. 429. 

The number of "beasts" varied from four 
to seven. Two young lions are specially men- 
tioned ; and " a lion lately sent by the Lord 
the Prince from Gascony to England to the 
Lord the King." <I>. 

[Our correspondent's NOTE is an addition to 
what Bayley has given us on this subject; who 
tells us, however, that as early as 1252, Henry III. 
sent to the Tower a white bear, which had been 
brought to him as a present from Norway, when 
the Sheriffs of London were commanded to pay 
four pence every day for its maintenance.] 


A lover of literature, and aspiring to promote 
its extension and improvement, I sometimes 
form projects for the adoption of others 
sensible, be it also said, of the extent of my 
own engagements with certain learned so- 

One of these projects has been a tabular 
view of the literary biography of the British 
Islands. In the midst of my reflections on 
the plans of Blair, Priestley, Playfair, Ober- 
lin, Tytler, Jarry de Mancy, &c. I received a 
specimen of a Bibliographic biographique, by 
Edouard-Marie Oettinger, now in the press at 

As books multiply, the inexpediency of 
attempting general bibliography becomes more 

Nov. 17. 1849.] 



and more apparent. Meritorious as are the 
works of Brunei and Ebert, and useful as 
they may be to collectors, they are inadequate 
to the wants of men of letters. Henceforth, 
the bibliographer who aims at completeness 
and accuracy must restrict himself to one 
class of books. 

M. Oettinger appears to have acted on this 
principle, and has been happy in the choice of 
his subject 

" The proper study of mankind is man." 

The work is comprehensive in its object, 
judicious in its plan, accurate in its details, 
as far as the specimen proceeds, and an un- 
questionable desideratum in literature. 

Ainsi, vive M. Edouard-Marie Oettinger! 
Vive la Bibliographic biographique ! 



When a Petition ends with, " Your Peti- 
tioner shall ever pray, &c." what form of 
words does the " &c." represent ? B. 



Mr. Editor, I congratulate you on your 
happy motto, but will you give your readers 
the results of your own experience and prac- 
tice, and tell them the simplest mode of making 
Notes, and, when made, how to arrange them 
so as to find them when required? 

I have been in the habit of using slips of 
paper the blank turn-overs of old-fashioned 
letters before note paper came into fashion 
and arranging in subjects as well as I could ; 
but many a note so made has often caused me 
a long hour's looking after : this ought not so 
to be ; pigeon-holes or portfolios, numbered or 
lettered, seem to be indispensable. 

Has any reader a Note whereby to tell who 
are the present representatives of Greenes of 
"Green's Norton?" or who was "Richunl 
Greene, Apothecary," who was living 1770, 
and bore the arms of that family ? H. T. E. 

[Our answer to our correspondent's first Query 
is, send your Notes to us, who will print and index 
them. ED.] 



1. Where is now the bust of Charles L, 
formerly in Westminster Hall, and engraved 
by Peter Maxell for Pennant's London, in 
which engraving the bust is attributed to Ber- 
nini, though Vertue thought differently? (See 
Dallaway's Walpole, 1826, ii. 109.) 

2. Also, where is the correspondent bust 
of James I., formerly at Whitehall, of which 
there is an engraving by N. Smith ? 

3. What has become of the tapestry of the 
reign of Henry VI. which formerly adorned 
the Painted Chamber in the ancient Palace of 
Westminster ? It appears that it remained in 
one of the lower apartments from the time 
when it was taken down in 1800 until the 
year 1810; that it was then sold to Charles 
Yarnold, Esq., of Great Helen's, Bishopsgate 
Street, for 10/. After his death in 1825, in 
the auction of his collection at Southgate's 
(June 11. that year, lot 238), it was sold as 
" Seven Pieces representing the siege of 
Troy," for 71. to Mr. Matheman. Who was 
Mr. Math emari ? and what has now become 
of his acquisition ? 

Another piece of tapestry in Mr. Yarnold's 
possession, but it may be presumed in far 
better condition, was bought by Mr. Tesch- 
maker, his executor, for 63/. This was de- 
scribed as " The Plantagenet Tapestry, in fine 
preservation, containing 23 full-sized portraits 
of the different branches of the Houses of 
York and Lancaster: among the most pro- 
minent are Margaret of Anjou ; Cicely Duchess 
of York ; the Duke of Gloucester, afterwards 
Richard III. ; Edward of Lancaster ; Henry 
VI. ; Earl of March, son of Richard (Duke of 
York and) afterwards Edward IV. ; Henry 
VII. ; Clarence [?] Duke of York," &c. This 
description raises one's curiosity greatly, and 
query, has this tapestry been elsewhere de- 
scribed ? At the meeting of the Archaeological 
Association at Warwick in 1847, it was sup- 
posed to have come from St. Mary's Hall, Co- 
ventry ; but that idea seems to have arisen 
merely from its similarity of design to the 
tapestry which is now there. N. 


Sir, The following expression in Caven- 
dish's Life of Wol&ey, p. 42. "He was 



[No. 3 

Dominus fac totum with the king" seems t 
point us to some ecclesiastical origin for th 
derivation of our familiar word " factotum. 
Does any one know the precise whereabout 
of such a phrase in the Ancient Servic 


C. F. S 


Mr. Editor, In the parish church in 
which I officiate are preserved four ancien 
and curious alms-basins, of latten; they ap 
pear to be of Flemish workmanship, and 
from inventories of the church goods, made a 
different times, we may gather that they were 
given for their present use during the seven 
teenth century. They represent : 1. The 
Martyrdom of St. Sebastian ; 2. The Annun 
ciation of the Blessed Virgin ; 3. The Tempt 
ation in Eden ; and 4. The Spies bearing the 
grapes. Around each of these subjects is a 
legend in foreign characters, "DER. INFRID 
GEHWART." I have submitted this inscrip- 
tion to antiquaries and German scholars in 
vain ; it still remains a puzzle. It has been 
suggested that it may have been only an ar- 
bitrary mark of the maker. Is this probable ? 
If not, will you, or one of your readers, give 
the interpretation to CLERICUS ? 

Nov. 8. 1849. 

[We have much pleasure in inserting the foregoing 
QUERY, and trust that many of our correspondents 
will follow the example of Clericus, by furnishing us 
witlTcopies of the inscriptions on any ancient church 
plate in their possession, or which may come under 
their notice. A comparison of examples will often 
serve to remove such difficulties as the present, which 
perhaps may be read DERIN FRID GEHWART, " Therein 
Peace approved;" Gewdren being used in the sense of 
Bewuhren, authority for which may be found in Wacker- 


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189 ACTS OF PARLIAMENT, Orders, Declarations, Pro 

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1 vol. calf. 1657-60 

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BY WILLIAM CAXTON, curious wood engravings 

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380 Cellii(E.) Eques Auratus Anglo- Wirtembergi- 
cus : id est, actus admodum Solennis ; quo 
Jacobus Rex Angliae, &c. Regii Garterio- 
rum supremus ac Frid. Ducem Wirtember- 
gicum, per Rob. Spencer Barnoem declaravit, 
portrait woodcut Tubing. 1605 

** This was Sir W r m. Dethick's copy, Garter King at 
Arms, who accompanied Lord Spencer in his 
journey : in it he has written some very curious 
circumstances respecting the journey, and of the 
ill-treatment he experienced from Sir Rob. 
Spencer and Wm. Seager, "a poore paynter, 
sonne of a base fleminge and spawne of a Jew," 
with an account of the family of Dethick, or De 
Dyk, of Derbyshire and Staffordshire. 

HCit letter, one leaf inlaid and three or four 
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Printer is one of great interest, filling the 
two last pages. It thus commences : " Thur 
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and drewe out of the boke named Vegecius de 
" re rmlitari and out of tharbre of bataylles, 
' wyth many other thynges sett in to the same 
requisite to werre and batailles, which boke 
beyng m Frnshe was delyvered to me Willm 
Caxton by the most crysten kinge and se- 
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Nov. 17. 1849.] 



** Lord Kyng Henry the VII, Kyng of Englond 
" and of Frauce, in his Palais of Westmestre, 
" the 23 day of Janyuere, the III of his regne, 
"and desired and wylsed me to translate this 
"said boke and reduce it into our enlish natural 
"tonge and to put it in enprynte, &c." 
522 ENGLAND: Copy of a Letter written by a Spa- 
nish Gentleman to his Friend in England in 
refutation of sundry Calumnies there falsely 
bruited among the People, 1589 An Ad- 
vertisement written to a Secretarie of my 
Lord Treasurer of Ingland by an Inglish 
Intelligencer as he passed through Germanie 
towards Italic ; also a Letter written by the 
Lord Treasurer, 1 592 
*^* Two very rare and curious historical pieces, written 

by a zealous Catholic in defence of Philip II. 
944 Neumayr van Ramszla (J. W. ) Johann fursten 
des Jungern Hertzogen zu Sachsen, Reise in 
Franckreich Engelland und Nederland, port, 
and plates 

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We have also received from Mr. Asher, of 
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the sale catalogue of the library of Ludwig 
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rally known, and containing the manuscript 
notes and comments of so profound a critic 
as Ludwig Tieck, ought to find an English 

2152 THE PLAYS OF W. SHAKSPEARK, with the Cor- 
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Steevens. in 8vo. Basil 18OO-1802 

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One of the most curious articles in this 
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of attainment. We well remember the valuable 
Catalogue published many years since by 
Mr. Rodd, of Newport Street, the father of 
Mr. Thomas Rodd, and have often regretted 
the loss of our copy of that extensive collec- 
tion ; and we record now for the information 
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Smith, of 4, Old Compton Street, of Part I. 
of a Catalogue of a singular and unique collec- 
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established - - - I. 7 
Lord Chatham's Speech on American Stamp 

Act, Notes of - - I. 12 

Dome, the Bookseller - - - I. 12 

Henno Kusticus - - - - I. 12 

The Signe of the End - - - I. 19 

Lines in the style of Suckling - - - II. 20 
Pedlar's Song, attributed to Shakspeare, and 

Tradition respecting Hamlet - - II. 23 

Sir William Skipwith - - - II. 23 

Thistle of Scotland - - 1 1. 24 

Sermones Sancti Borroma>i - - - II. 27 

Luther and Erasmus, Lines on - II. 27 

Tower Royal - - - II. 28 

Constitution Hill - - - II. 28 

Countess of Pembroke's Letter - - - II. 28 

Tennison's Sermon on Nell Gwynne - II. 28 

Colley Gibber's Apology . - II. 29 

White Glovc-s at Maiden Assizes - - II. 29 

Flemish Account - - I. 8 

Grog, Origin of word - - II. 28 

Bishop Barnaby, why Lady-birds so called - II. 28 



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or the whole truth, amidst the numerous mi- 
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which present themselves to the notice of all 
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by Mr. Hallam from a passage in Mabillon. 
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[No. 4. 

sense of the services which he has rendered 
to historical knowledge. Had we believed 
that if he has fallen into a mistake in this 
instance, it had been not merely a mistake, 
but a deliberate perversion of the truth, we 
should have regarded both book and writer 
with indifference, not to say with contempt. 
It is in the endeavour to furnish corrections 
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Mr. Editor, Your correspondent "Rote- 
rodamus " (pp. 27, 28) asks, I hope, for the 
author of the epigram which he quotes, with 
a view to a life of his great townsman, 
Erasmus. Such a book, written by some 
competent hand, and in an enlarged and 
liberal spirit, would be a noble addition to the 
literature of Europe. There is no civilised 
country that does not feel an interest in the 
labours and in the fame of Erasmus. I am 
able to answer your correspondent's question, 
but it is entirely by chance. I read the 
epigram which he quotes several years ago, 
in a boo'c of a kind which one would like to 
see better known in this country a typo- 
graphical or bibliographical history of Douay. 
It is entitled, " Bibliographic Douaisienne, ou 
Catalogue Historique et Raisonne des Livres 
imprimes a Douai depuis fannee 1563 jus- 
qu'a nos jours, avec des notes bibliographiques 
et litteraires ; Par H. R. Duthillceul 8vo. 
Douai, 1842." The 1 1 1th book noticed in this 
volume is entitled, " Epigrammata in Hcere- 
| ticos. Author e Andrea Frusio, Societatis 
I Jesu. Tres-petitin 8vo. 1596." The book is 
stated to contain 251 epigrams, " amied,"says 
M. Duthillceul, " at the heretics and their 
doctrines. . . The author has but one design, 
which is to render odious and ridiculous, the 

lives, persons, and errors of the apostles of 
the Reformation." He quotes three of the 
epigrams, the third being the one your cor- 
respondent has given you. It has this title, 
" De Lutheri et Erasmi differentia? and is 
the 209th epigram in the book. 

I have never met with a copy of the work 
of Frusius, nor do I know any thing of him 
as an author. The learned writer who pours 
out such a store of curious learning in the 
pages of the Gentleman's Magazine is more 
likely than any body that I know, to tell you 
something about him. 

Mons. Duthillceul quotes another epigram 
from the same book upon the Encomium 
Morice, but it is too long and too pointless 
for your pages. He adds another thing which 
is more in your way, namely, that a former 
possessor of the copy of the work then before 
him had expressed his sense of the value of 
these " epigrammes devotes " in the following 

"' Nollem carere hoc libello auro nequidem 
contra pensitato" 

Perhaps some one who possesses or has 
access to the book would give us a complete 
list of the persons who are the subjects of 
these defamatory epigrams. And I may add, 
as you invite us to put our queries, Is not 
Erasmus entitled to the distinction of being 
regarded as the author of the work of which 
the largest single edition has ever been printed 
and sold ? Mr. Hallam mentions that, " in the 
single year 1527, Colinseus printed 24,000 
copies of the Colloquies, all of which were 
sold." This is the statement of Moreri. Bayle 
gives some additional information. Quoting 
a letter of Erasmus as his authority, he says, 
that Colinaeus, who like the Brussels and 
American reprinters of our day was print- 
ing the book at Paris from a Basle edition, 
entirely without the concurrence of Erasmus, 
and without any view to his participation in 
the profit, circulated a report that the book 
was about to be prohibited by the Holy See. 
The curiosity of the public was excited. 
Every one longed to secure a copy. The 
enormous edition for the whole 24,000 was 
but one impression was published con- 
temporaneously with the report. It was a 
cheap and elegant book, and sold as fast as it 
could be handed over the bookseller's counter. 
As poor Erasmus had no pecuniary benefit 

Nov. 24. 1849.]' 



from the edition, he ought to have the credit 
which arises from this proof of his extra- 
ordinary popularity. The public, no doubt, 
enjoyed greatly his calm but pungent ex- 
posure of the absurd practices which were 
rife around them. That his humorous satire 
was fek by its objects, is obvious from this 
epigram, as well as from a thousand other 
evidences. JOHN BRUCE. 

Sir, When reading Hallam's History of 
the Middle Ages \\ short time ago, I was startled 
by the following passage, which occurs amongst 
other evidences of the ignorance of the clergy 
during the period subsequent to the dissolution 
of the iiornan Empire. 

" Not one priest in a thousand in Spain about 
the age of Charlemagne, could address a common 
letter of salutation to another." HuUams Middle 
Ages, vol. iii. p. 332. 

And for this statement he refers to Mabillon, 
De Re Diplomatica, p. 52. 

On referring to Mabillon, I find that the 
passage runs as follows: 

" Christian! posthabitis scrinturis sanctis, earum- 
que interpretibus, Arabuin Chaldaiorunujue libris 
evolvendis incumbentes, legem suam nesciebant, et 
linguam propriam non advertebant latinam, ita ut 
ex omni Christ! collegio vix inveniretur unus in 
milleno hoininnm genere, qui salutatorias fratri 
pos.set rationabiiiter dirigere litteras." 

So that although Mabillon says that scarce one 
in a thousand could address a Latin letter to 
another, yet he by no means says that it was 
on account of their general ignorance, but 
because they were addicting themselves to 
other branches of learning. They were de- 
voting all their energies to Arabic and Chal- 
da-ail science, and in their pursuit of it neg- 
lected other literature. A similar remark 
might be made respecting many distinguished 
members of the University to which I belong ; 
yet who would feel himself justified in inferring 
tln-nce that Cambridge was sunk in ignorance ? 



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Sir, I beg leave to forward you a contribution for 
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1. Writers of Notes on Fly -leaves, SfC. 

The Barberini Library at Rome contains a 
vast number of books covered with marginal 
notes by celebrated writers, such as Scaliger, 
Allatius, Holstentius, David HaescheJ, Bar- 
badori, and above all, Tasso, who has anno- 
tated with his own hand more than fifty 
volumes. Valery, in his Voyages en Italic, 
states that a Latin version of Plato is not 
only annotated by the hand of Tasso, but 
also by his father, Bernardo; a fact which 
sufficiently proves how deeply the language 
and philosophy of the Greek writers were 
studied in the family. The remarks upon the 
Divina Commedia, which, despite the opinion 
of Serassi, appear to be authentic, attest the 
profound study which, from his youth, Tasso 
had made of the great poets, and the lively 
admiration he displayed for their works. 
There is also in existence a copy of the 
Venice edition of the Divina Commedia 
(1477), with autograph notes by Bembo. 

Christina of Sweden had quite a mania for 
writing in her books.. In the library of Jthe 
Roman College (at Rome) there are several 
books annotated by her, amongst others a 



[No. 4. 

Quintus Curtius, in which, as it would appear, 
she criticises very freely the conduct of Alex- 
ander. "He reasons falsely in this case," 
she writes on one page ; and elsewhere, "/ 
should have acted diametrically opposite ; I 
should have pardoned ; n and again, further 
on, " / should have exercised clemency; " an 
assertion, however^ we may be permitted to 
doubt, when we consider what sort of cle- 
mency was exercised towards Monaldeschi. 
Upon the fly-leaf of a Seneca (Elzevir), she 
has written, l( Adversus virtutem possunt 
calamitates damna et injuries quod adversus 
solem nebulce possunt" The library of the 
Convent of the Holy Cross of Jerusalem at 
Rome, possesses a copy of the Bibliotheca 
ffispana, in the first volume of which the 
same princess has written on the subject of a 
book relating to her conversion * : " Chi Tha 
scritta, non lo sa ; chi lo sa, non Tha mai 
scritta. n 

Lemontey has published some very curious 
Memoirs, which had been entirely written on 
the fly-leaves and margins of a missal by 
J. de Coligny, who died in 1686. 

Racine, the French tragic poet, was also a 
great annotator of his books ; the Bibliotheque 
National at Paris possesses a Euripides and 
Aristophanes from his library, the margins of 
which are covered with notes in Greek, Latin, 
and French. 

The books which formerly belonged to La 
Monnoie are now recognizable by the ana- 
gram of his name. A Delio nomen, and also 
by some very curious notes on the fly-leaves 
and margins written in microscopic cha- 
racters. Q. j. K 


Mr. Vaux writes as follows : Admiral 
Vernon was the first to require his men to 
drink their spirits mixed with water. In bad 
weather he was in the habit of walking the 
deck m a rough grogram cloak, and thence 
had obtained the nickname of Old Grog in the 
Service. This is, I believe, the origin of the 
name grog applied originally to rum and 
water. I find the same story repeated in a 
quaint little book, called Pulleyn's Etymo- 
logical Compendium. 

[A. S. has communicated a similar explanation 

and we are obliged to " An old LADY who reads 
for Pastime " for kindly furnishing us with a refer- 
ence to a newly published American work, Lifts 
for the Lazy, where the origin of " Grog " is ex- 
plained in the same manner. 

The foregoing was already in type when we 
received the following agreeable version of the 
same story.]. 



Mr. Editor, As a sailor's son I beg to 
answer your correspondent LEGOUR'S query 
concerning the origin of the word " grog,'' so 
famous in the lips of our gallant tars. Jack 
loves to give a pet nickname to his favourite 
officers. The gallant Edward Vernon (a West- 
minster man by birth) was not exempted from 
the general rule. His gallantry and ardent 
devotion to his profession endeared him to the 
service, and some merry wags of the crew, in 
an idle humour, dubbed him " Old Grogram." 
Whilst in command of the West Indian sta- 
tion, and at the height of his popularity on 
account of his reduction of Porto Bello with 
six men-of-war only, he introduced the use of 
rum and water by the ship's company. When 
served out, the new beverage proved most 
palatable, and speedily grew into such favour, 
that it became as popular as the brave admiral 
himself, and in honour of him was surnamed 
by acclamation " Grog." 


P. S. There are two other alms-basins 
in St. Margaret's worthy of note, besides those 
I mentioned in your last number. One has 
the inscription, " Live well, die never ; die 
well and live ever. A. D. 1644. W. G." The 
other has the appropriate legend, " Hee that 
gives too the poore lends unto thee LORD." 
A third bears the Tudor rose in the centre. 
In an Inventory made about the early part of 
the 17th century, are mentioned " one Bason 
given by Mr. Bridges, of brasse." (The donor 
was a butcher in the parish.) "Item, one 
bason, given by Mr. Brugg, of brasse." On 
the second basin are the arms and crest of the 
Brewers' Company. Perhaps Mr. Brugg was 
a member of it. One Richard Bridges was a 
churchwarden, A. D. 1630 32. M. W. 

7. College Street. Nov. 17. 

Nov. 24. 1849.] 




In Mr. Dyce's Remarks on Mr. J. P. Col- 
tier's and Mr. C. Knight's Editions of Shak- 
speare, pp. 115, 116, the following note 
occurs : 

" King Henry IV., Part Second, act iv. sc. iv. 

" As humorous as winter, and as sudden 
As flaws congealed in the spring of day." 

" Alluding," says Warburton, " to the opinion of 
some 'philosophers, that the vapours being con- 
gealed in air by cold, (which is most intense to- 
wards the morning,) and being afterwards rarified 
and let loose by the warmth of the sun, occasion 
those sudden and impetuous gusts of wind which 
are called flaws." COLLIER. 

" An interpretation altogether wrong, as the 
epithet here applied to ' flaws ' might alone deter- 
mine ; * congealed gusts- of wind ' being nowhere 
mentioned among the phenomena of nature except 
in Baron Munchausen's Travels. Edwards rightly 
explained * flaws,' in the present passage, 'small 
blades of ice.' I have myself heard the word used 
I to signify both thin cakes of ice and the bursting of 
those cakes." DYCE. 

Mr. Dyce may perhaps have heard the word 
floe (plural floes) applied to floating sheet-ice, 
as it is to be found so applied extensively in 
Captain Parry's Journal of his Second Voy- 
age ; but it remains to be shown whether such 
a term existed in Shakspeare's time. I 
think it did not, as after diligent search I 
have not met with it ; and, if it did, and then 
had the same meaning, floating sheet-ice, how 
would it apply to the illustration of this pas- 

That the uniform meaning of flaws in the 
poet's time was sudden gusts of wind, and 
figuratively sudden gusts of passion, or fitful 
and impetuous action, is evident from the 
following passages : 

" Like a red morn, that ever yet betoken'd 
Wreck to the seamen, tempest to the field, 
Sorrow to shepherds, woe unto the birds, 
Gust and foul flaws to herdsmen and to herds." 
Venus and Adonis. 

" Like a great sea-mark standing every flaw." 
Coriolanus, act v. sc. iii. 

" patch a wall to expel the winter's flaw" 

Hamlet, act v. sc. i. 

" Like to the glorious sun's transparent beams 
Do calm the fury of this mad-bivd flaw" 

3d PL Henry VI., act iii. sc. i. 

" these flaws and starts (impostors to true 

fear). Macbeth, act iv. sc. iv. 

" Falling in the flaws of her own youth, hath 
blistered her report." 

Meas.for Meas., act ii. sc. iii. 

So far for the poet's acceptation of its 

Thus also Lord Surrey : 

** And toss'd with storms, with flaws, with wind, 
with weather." 

And Beaumont and Fletcher, in The Pil- 

" 'Wh&t flaivs, and whirles of weather, 
Or rather storms, have been aloft these three 

Shakspeare followed the popular meteoro- 
logy of his time, as will appear from the 
following passage from a little ephemeris 
then very frequently reprinted : 

" De Repentinis Ventis. 

" 8. Typhon, Plinio, Vortex, aliis Turbo, et vi- 
bratus Ecnephias, de nube gelida (ut dictum est) 
abruptum aliquid ssepe numero secum voluit, 
ruinamque suam illo pondere aggravat : quern 
repeiitinum flatum k nuoe prope terram et mare 
depulsum, definuerunt quidam, ubi in gyros ro- 
tatur, et proxima (ut monuimus) verrit, suaque 
vi Bursuin raptat. MIZALDUS, Ephemeridis 
Aeris Perpetuus : sen Rustica tempestatum Astro- 
logia, 12 Lutet. 1584. 

I have sometimes thought that Shakspeare 
may have written : 

** As flaws congested in the spring of day." 

It is an easy thing to have printed con- 
gea/ed for that word, and congest occurs in A 
Lover's Complaint. Still I think change 

Has the assertion made in An Answer to 
Mr. Pope's Preface to Shakspeare, by a 
Strolling Player, 1729, respecting the de- 
struction of the poet's MSS. papers, been ever 
verified? If that account is authentic, it 
will explain the singular dearth of all auto- 
graph remains of one who must have written 
so much. As the pamphlet is not common, I 
transcribe the essential passage: 

" How much it is to be lamented that Two large 
Chests full of this GREAT MAN'S loose papers and 
Manuscripts in the hands of an ignorant Baker of 
\YAKWICK (who married one of the descendants 
from Shakespear), were carelessly scattered and 
thrown about as Garret Lumber and Litter, to 



[No. 4. 


S. W. S. | theTeriod referred to speak, however, directly 

, i . f work 


to the point; they are taken from a we 
entitled, The accomplisht Lady's Delight, 
Preserving, Physick, Beautifying, and ^Cooh- 


L Bill of fare for a. Gentleman s House about 

1. A Pottage with a Hen. 2. A Chatham- 
pudding 3. A Fricacie of Chickens. 4. A leg 
of mutton with a Sallet. Garnish your dishes 

i Barberries. 

Second Course. 1. A chine of Mutton. 2. A 
chine of Veal. 3. Lark-pye. 4. A couple of 
Pullet?, one larded. Garnished with orange slices. 

Third Course. 1. A dish of Woodcocks. 2. A 
couple of Babbits. 3. A dish of Asparagus. 
4. A Westphalia Gammon. 

Last Course. 1 . Two orange tarts, one with 
herbs. 2. A Bacon Tart. 3. An apple Tart. 
4. A dish of Bon-chriteen Pears, 5. A dish of 
Pippins. 6. A dish of Pearmains. 

" A Banquet for the .same Season. 
" 1 . A dish of Apricots. 2. A dish of marma- 
lade of Pippins. 3. A dish of preserved Cherries. 

Fire and Destruction 

Mickleham, Nov. 14. 1849. 

[We cannot insert the interesting Query wh 
our correspondent has forwarded on the subjec 
the disappearance of Shakspeares JMb 
referrin" to the ingenious suggestion u 
subjectso skilfully Bought forward by the Rev. 
Joseph Hunter in his New Illustrations of the Life, 
Studies, and Writings ofShakspeare, vol. i. p. . lOo.. 
"That the entire disappearance of all manu- 
script of Shakspeare, so entire that no writing of 
his remains except his name, and only one letter 
ever addressed to him, is in some way com 
with the religious turn which his posterity took, 
in whose eyes there would be much to be lamented 
in what they must, I fear, have considered a pros- 
titution of the noble talents which had been given 



The food of the people must always be 

regarded as an important element in esti- ^^ ^ 

mating the degree of civilization of a nation, I ^Awhoie^red Quince. 5. A dish of dryed sweet- 

and its position in the social scale. Mr. Ma- | meats 

caulay, in his masterly picture of the state of 

England at the period of the accession of 

James II., has not failed to notice this subject 

as illustrative of the condition of the working 

classes of that day. He tells us that meat, 

viewed relatively with wages, was " so dear 

that hundreds of thousands of families scarcely 

knew the taste of it The great .majority 

of the nation lived almost entirely on rye, 
barley, and oats." (Hist. Eng. vol. i. p. 418 

4th ed.). 

It is not uninteresting to inquire (and 
having found, it is worth making a note of) 
what sort of fare appeared on the tables of 

the upper and middle classes,- who, unlike I Lobsters. 9. A lumber pye. 10. A couple of 
their poorer neighbours, were in a condition | Capons. 11. A dish of Partridges. 

to gratify their gastronomic preferences in 

thu choice and variety of their viands, with 

the view of determining whether the extra- 
ordinary improvement which has taken place 

in the food of the labouring population has 

been equally marked in that of the wealthier 


Pepys, who was unquestionably a lover of 

good living, and never tired of recording his 

feastings off " brave venison pasty," or 

A BiU of Fare upon an extraordinary Occasion. 
" 1. A collar of brawn. 2. A couple of Pullets 
boyled. 3. A bisk of Fish. 4. A dish of Carps. 
5. A grand boyled Meat. 6. A grand Sallet. 
7. A venison pasty. 8. A roasted Turkey. 9. A 
fat pig. 10. A powdered Goose. 11. A haunch 
of Venison roasted. 12. A Neats-tongue and 
Udder roasted. 13. A Westphalia Ham boyled. 
14. A Joll of Salmon. 15. Mince pyes. 16. A 
Surloyn of roast beef. 17. Cold baked Meats. 
18. A* dish of Custards. 

" Second Course. 1. Jellies of all sorts. 2. A 
dish of Pheasants. 3. A Pike boyled. 4. An 
oyster pye. 5. A dish of Plovers. 6. A dish of 
larks. 7: A Joll of Sturgeon. 8. A couple of 

tridges. 12. A fricacy 

of Fowls. 13. A dish of Wild Ducks. 14. A dish 
of cram'd chickens. 15. A dish of stewed oysters. 
16. A Marchpane. 17. A dish of Fruits. 18. An 
umble pye." 

The fare suggested for " Fish days " is no 
less various and abundant ; twelve dishes are 
enumerated for the first course, and sixteen 
for the second. Looking at the character of 
these viands, some of which would not dis- 
credit the genius of a Soyer or a Mrs. Glasse, 

Nov. 24. 1849.] 



it seems pretty evident that in the article of 
food the labouring classes have been the 
greatest gainers since 1687. 

Few things are more suggestive of queries 
as everybody knows from experience 
than the products of culinary art. I will not, 
however, further trespass on space which may 
be devoted to a more dignified topic, than by 
submitting the following 

Qttery. Does the phrase "to eat humble 
pie," used to signify a forced humiliation, owe 
its origin to the " umble pye" specified above? 



Mr. Editor, Legour asks, why the people 
in Suffolk call a lady-bird " Bishop Barnaby?" 

I give the following from the late Major 
Moors Suffolk Words: 

" Bishop-Barney. The golden-bug. See Bar- 
nabee. In Tusser's Ten Unwelcome Guests in the 
Dairy, he enumerates * the Bishop that burneth ' 
(pp. 142. 144.), in an ambiguous way, which his 
commentator does not render at all clear. I never 
heard of this calumniated insect being an unwel- 
come guest in the dairy; but Bishop-Barney, or 
Burney, and Barnabee, or Burnabee r and Bishop- 
that-burneth, seem, in the absence of explana- 
tion, to be nearly related in sound at any rate. 
Under Barnabee it will be seen that burning has 
some connection with the history of this pretty 
insect " 

w Bsirnabee," writes the Major, '* the golden- 
bug, or lady-bird ; also Bishop-Barney : which 
see. This pretty little, and very useful insect, is 
tenderly regarded by our children* One settling 
on a child is always sent away with this sad vale- 
diction : 

u Gowden-bug, gowden-bug, fly away home, 
Yar house is bahnt deown an yar children all 

To which I add another nursery doggerel 
less sad : 

u Bishop, Bishop-Barnabee, 
Tell me when your wedding be, 
If it be to-morrow day 
Take your wings and fly away." 

The Major adds, "It is sure to fly off on 
the third repetition." 

" Burnt down, "continues the Major, "gives 
great scope to our country euphonic twang, 
altoj:<'t IMT inexpressible in type; bahntdeeyown 
roim-s as near to it as my akill in orthography 
will allow." 

Ray, in his South and East Country 
Words, has this : 

" Bishop, the little spotted beetle, commonly 
called the lady-cow or lady -bird. J have heard 
this insect in other places called golden-knop, 
and doubtless in other countries it hath other 
names. (E. W. p. 70.) Golden-bug is the common 
Suffolk name." J. G. 

Southwold, Nov. 16. 1849. 



Sir, In the 2nd vol. of Mr. Collier's 
valuable and interesting Extracts from the 
Registers of the Stationers' Company, p. 28, 
is the following entry : 

" Thos. Dason. Licensed unto him the praise 
of follie; to print not above xv c of any impression, 
with this condition, that any of the Company may 
laie on with him, reasonablie at every impression, 
as they think good, and that he shall gyve reason- 
able knowledge before to them as often as he shall 
print it." 

This is both curious and important informa- 
tion as being, in all probability, the earliest 
recorded instance of a custom still kept up 
amongst booksellers, and which now passes 
under the designation of a "Trade edition ;" 
the meaning of which being, that the copy- 
right, instead of being the exclusive property 
of one person, is divided into shares and held 
by several. There are Trade editions of such 
voluminous authors as Shakspeare, Gibbon, 
Hume, and Robertson, for instance ; and 
Alison's Europe, if published half a century 
back, might in all probability have been 
added to the list. The difference between the 
ancient and the modern usage appears to be 
this, that formerly when the type was set up 
for an edition " any of the company may laie 
on, (these two last words are still technically 
used by printers for supplying type with 
paper,) reasonablie at every impression," &c.; 
in other words, may print as many copies 
from the type " as they think good ;" whereas 
now, the edition is first printed, and then the 
allotment of the copies, and the actual cost of 
them is made, according to the number of 

If this is a " Note" worth registering, it is 
miu'h at your service, whilst for a "Query," 
I should be very glad to be informed, when a 
very able review, the date of which I neglected 



[No. 4, 

to make at the time, appeared in the Time 
newspaper, of the 2nd edition of Cottle's Lif 
of Coleridge. 

With many good wishes for the success o 
your register, 

I remain, &c. JOHN MILAND 

Sir, I am very glad to have elicited thi 
information contained in your number jus 
published respecting the copy of Borde's 
work in the Chetham Library. As I have a 
great respect for Mr. Ames, I must remark 
that he had no share in the blunder, and 
whenever a new edition of his work is under- 
taken, it will be well to look rather curiously 
into the enlargements of Dibdin. In the 
mean time this information naturally leads to 
another Query or rather, to more than one 
' namely, " Had Mr. Bindley 's copy this 
unique imprint ? and what became of it at the 
sale of his books? or is it only one of the ima- 
ginary editions which give bibliographers so 
much trouble?" Perhaps some one of your cor* 
respondents may be able to give information. 
Yours, &c. S. R. MAITLAND. 


The student who confines himself to a single 
question, may fairly expect a prompt and pre- 
cise answer. To ask for general information 
on a particular subject, may be a less success- 
ful experiment. Who undertakes extensive 
research except for an especial purpose ? Who 
can so far confide in his memory as to append 
his name to a list of authorities without seem- 
ing to prove his own superficiality? I throw 
out these ideas for consideration, just as they 
arise; but neither wish to repress the curiosity 
of querists, nor to prescribe bounds to the 
communicative disposition of respondents 

Wd Madoc, son of Owen Gwynedd, prince 

* Wales, discover America ? Stimulated by 

the importance of the question, and accustomed 

admire the spirit of maritime enterprise 
at whatever period it may have been called 
into action, I have sometimes reflected on 
this debatable point but can neither affirm 
nor deny it. 

I advise the student, as a preliminary step 

to the inquiry, to attempt a collection of 
all the accessible evidence, historical and 
ethnographic, and to place the materials which 
pertain to each class in the order of time. The 
historical evidence exists, I believe exclu* 
sively, in the works of the chroniclers and 
bards of Wales ; and the ethnographic evidence 
in the narratives of travellers in America. 
The opinions of modern writers, the gifted 
author of Madoc not excepted, he is at liberty 
to consider as hors-d'oeuvre to be passed on, 
or tasted, a plaisir. As an exemplification of 
this plan, I submit some short extracts, with 
critical remarks : 

" Madoc another of Owen Gwyneth his sonnes 
left the land [North- Wales] in contention betwixt 
his brethren, and prepared certaine ships with 
men and munition, and sought aduentures by seas, 
sailing west, and leauing the coast of Ireland so 
far north, that he came to a land vnknowen, where 
be saw manie strange things." CARADOC or 
LLANCAKVAN, continued The historie of Cambria, 
1584. 4. p. 227. 

[The history of Caradoc ends with A. D. 1156. 

The continuation, to the year 1270, is ascribed by 

Powel, the editor of the volume, to the monks of 

Conway and Stratflur.] 

Carmina Meredith filii Rhesi [Meredydd ab 

Rhys] mentionem facientia de Madoco filio Oweni 
wynedd, et de sua nauigatione in terras mcogni- 
s. Vixit hie Meredith circiter annum Domini 


Madoc wyf, mwyedic wedd, 
lawn genau, Owen Gwynedd : 
Ni fynnum dir, fy enaid oedd 
Na da mawr, ond y moroedd. 

The same in English. 
Vfadoc I am the sonne of Owen Gwynedd 
iVith stature large, and comely grace adorned ; 
Jo lands at home nor store of wealth me please, 
\ly minde was whole to search the ocean seas. 

verses I receiued of my learned friend 
VL William Camden." Richard Hakluyt, 1589. 

[The eulogy of Meredydd ab Rhys is very in- 
efinite, but deserves notice on account of its 
arly date. He " flourished," says W. Owen, " be- 
ween A.D 1430 and 1460."] 

" This land must needs be some part of that 
ountrie of which the Spaniardes affirme them- 

** S J* the first finders sith Hannos time; 
Wherevpon it is manifest, that that coun- 
ie was long before by Brytaines discouered, 
tore either Columbus or Americus Vespatius 
ead ame Spaniardes thither. Of the via^e and 
eturne of this Madoc there be manie fables gained 
le common people doo use in distance of place 

Nov. 24. 1849.] 



and length of time rather to augment than to 
Diminish: but sure it is, that there he was." 
HUMFREY LHOYD, Additions to The historic of 
Cambria, p. 228. 

[Lhoyd, who translated the history of Caradoc, 
and made considerable additions to it, died in 
1568. He mentions the second voyage of Madoc, 
but cites no authority.] 

" This Madoc arriuing in that westerne countrie, 
vnto the which he came, in the yeare 1170. left 
most of his people there : and returning backe for 
more of his owne nation, acquaintance and freends, 
to inhabite that faire and large countrie : went 
thither againe with ten sailes, as I find noted by 
Gutyn Owen. I am of opinion that the land, 
where vnto he came, was some part of Mexico :" 
etc. David Powel, s. T. p., note in The historic 
of Cambria, 1584. 4. p. 229. 

[The learned Powel relies on the authority of 
the poet Gutyn Owen. " He wrote," says W. 
Owen, "between A.D. 1460 and 1490" three 
centuries after the event in question !] 

Ethnographic evidence. 

" They came [anno 1536] to part of the West 
Indies about Cape Breton, shaping their course 
thence northeastwards, vntill they came to the 
Island of Penguin," etc. The voyage of master 
Hore, in The principall navigations, etc. 1589. 

[Antiquaries consider the mention of Cape Bre- 
ton and Penguin Island as evidence. It cannot 
prove much, as the particulars were not committed 
to writing till about half-a-century after the 

" There is also another kinde of foule in that 
countrey [between the gulf of Mexico and Cape 
Breton] .... they have white heads, and there- 
fore the countrey men call them penguins (which 
seemeth to be a Welsh name). And they haue also 
in vse diuers other Welsh words, a matter worthy the 
noting:' The relation of David Ingram, 1568. in 
The principall navigations, etc. 1589. Fol. 

[This narrative was compiled from answers to 
certain queries perhaps twenty years after the 
events related.] 

"Afterwards [anno 1669] they [The Doeg 
Indians] carried us to their town, and entertained 
us civilly for four months ; and I did converse 
with them of many things in the British tongue, 
:ind diil preach to them three times a week vi tin- 
llritixh tinini'" etc. Rev. Morgan Jones, 1686. 
British remains, 1777. 8. 

[The editor omits to state how he procured the 
manuscript Tin; paper whence the above is cx- 
trai-ti-d is either decisive of the question at issue, 
or a forgery.] 

Tin- student may infer, even from these 
hints, that I consider the subject 

which he proposes to himself as one which 
deserves a strict investigation provided the 
collections hereafter described have ceased to 
be in existence. 

" With respect to this extraordinary occurrence 
in the history of Wales, I have collected a mul- 
titude of evidences, in conjunction with Edward 
Williams, the bard, to prove that Madog must have 
reached the American continent ; for the descend- 
ants of him and his followers exist there as a 
nation to this day ; and the present position of 
which is on the southern branches of the Missouri 
river, under the appellations of Padoucas, White 
Indians, Civilized Indians, and Welsh Indians." 
William Owen, F.A.S. 1803. 

The title prefixed to this paper would be a 
misnomer, if I did not add a list of books 
which it may be desirable to consult: 

On the Scandinavian discoveries. Memoires de la 
societe royale des antiquaires du Nord. 1836-1839. 
Copenhague. 8. p. 27. Historia Vinlandise Antiqvae, 
sen partis America septentrionalis per Thormodum 
Torfa?um. Harniae, 1705. 8. 1715. 8. Antiquitates 
Americanae, sive scriptores septentrionales rerum Ante- 
Columbianartim in America. Hafniee, 1837. 4. 

On the Welsh discoveries. The historic of Cambria, 
now called Wales continued by David Powel. Lon- 
don, 1584. 4. The Myvyrian archaiology of Wales, 
London, 1801-7. 8 e . 3 vol. British remains, by the 
Rev. N. Owen, A. M. London, 1777. 8. The 
Cambrian biography, by William Owen, F A. S. 
London, 1803. 8. Bibliotheque Americaine, par 
H. Ternaux. Paris, 1837. 8. The principall navi- 
gations, voiages and discoveries of the English nation 
by Richard Hakluyt, M. A. London, 1589. foL 



Dr. Plott, in his account, and Lord Mon- 
boddo, Origin and Progress of Language, 
refer to the Travels of Herbert (17th century), 
lib. iii. cap. ult., for a full history of this sup- 
posed discovery. They derived it from Mere- 
dyth ap Rhys, Gaty Owen, and Cynfyn ap 
Gronow, A. D. 1478 80. See also Athenceum, 
Aug. 19. 1848. Professor Elton's address at 
the meeting of the British Association, on this 
and the earlier Icelandic discovery. 

The belief in the story has been lately re- 
newed. See Archceologia Cambrens, 4. 65., 
and L'Acadie, by Sir J. E. Alexander, 1849. 
I \\ill only observe that in Dr. Plott's account, 
Madoc was directed by the best compass, and 
this in 1 170 ! See M'Culloch's Dictionary of 



[No. 4. 


A TRAVELLER informs us that Baron A. von 
Ilumboldt urges further search after this ex- 
pedition in the Welsh records. He thinks the 
passage is in the Examin Critique. 


I quite agree with your correspondent 
D***N**R, that there never has been an 
editor of Shakespeare capable of doing him 
full justice. I will go farther and saj, that 
there never will be an editor capable of 
doing him any thing like justice. I am the 
most "modern editor" of Shakespeare, and 
I am the last to pretend that I am at all 
capable of doing him justice : I should be 
ashamed of myself if I entertained a notion 
so ridiculously presumptuous. What I in- 
tended was to do him all the justice in my 
power, and that I accomplished, however 
imperfectly. It struck me that the best mode 
of attempting to do him any justice was to 
take the utmost pains to restore his text to 
the state in which he left it ; and give me 
leave, very humbly, to say that this is the 
chief recommendation of the edition I super- 
intended through the press, having collated 
every line, syllable, and letter, with every 
known old copy. For this purpose I saw, 
consulted, and compared every quarto and 
every folio impression in the British Museum, 
at Oxford, at Cambridge, in the libraries of 
the Duke of Devonshire and Lord Elles- 
mere, and in several private collections. If 
my edition have no other merit, I venture to 
assert that it has this. It was a work of 
great labour, but it was a work also of sincere 
love. It is my boast, and my only boast, that I 
have restored the text of Shakespeare,as nearly 
as possible, to the integrity of the old copies. 
When your correspondent complains, there- 
fore, that in "Hen. IV. Part 2," Act III. sc.l , 
in the line, 

"With deafening clamours in the slippery clouds," 
the word shrouds is not substituted by editors 
of Shakespeare for "clouds," the answer is 
that not a single old copy warrants the merely I 
fanciful emendation, and that it is not at all ' 
required by the sense of the passage. In the 
4to of 1600, and in the folio of 1623 the 
word is clouds ; " and he must be a very' bold 
itor (m my opinion little capable of doin- 

justice to any author), who would substitute 
his own imaginary improvement, for what we 
have every reason to believe is the genuine 
text. Shrouds instead of " clouds " is a merely 
imaginary improvement, supported by no au- 
thority, and (as, indeed, your correspondent 
shows) without the merit of originality. I 
am for the text of Shakespeare as he left it, 
and as we find it in the most authentic repre- 
sentations of his mind and meaning. 



Sir, Possibly some one of your literary 
correspondents, who may be versed in the, 
what DMsraeli would call Secret History of 
the Jacobite Court, will endeavour to answer 
a "Query" relative to the following rare 
medal : 

Obv. A ship of war bearing the French flag ; 
on the shore a figure in the dress of a Jesuit 
(supposed to represent Father Petre) seated 
astride of a Lobster, holding in his arms the young 
Prince of Wales, who has a little windmill on his 
head. Legend : " Aliens mon Prince, nous 
sommes en bon chemin." In the exergue, "Ja&: 
Franc : Eduard, suppose. 20 Juin, 1688." 

Rev. A shield charged with a windmill, and 
surmounted by a Jesuit's bonnet; two rows of 
Beads or Rosaries, for an order or collar, within 
which we^ read " Hony soit qui non y pense ;" 
a Lobster is suspended from the collar as a badge. 
Legend : " Les Armes et 1'Ordre du pretendu 
Prince de Galles." 

The difficulty in the above medal is the 
Lobster, though doubtless it had an allusion 
to some topic or scandal of the day ; whoever 
3an elucidate it will render good service to 
Medallic History, for hitherto it has baffled 
all commentators and collectors of medals. 
The windmill (indicative of the popular fable 
that the Prince was the son of a miller), and 
the Roman Catholic symbols, are well under- 

There is an engraving of this medal in 
Van Loon's Histoire Metallique des Pays 
Bas. It is also imperfectly engraved in 
Edwards' Medallic History of England, for 
the Jesuit is represented kneeling on the 
shore, and Pinkerton, who furnished the text, 
calls it a boy kneeling on the shore." The 
medal is so rare that probably the artist could 
obtain only a rubbed or mutilated impression 
to engrave from. My description is from a 

Nov. 24. 1849.] 



Specimen, in my own collection, as fine as the 
day it was minted. 

I may add that both Van Loon and Pinker- 
ton have engraved the legend in the collar 
erroneously, " Honi soit qui bon y pense;" 

it should be "non. 



Tn the Spectators description of Sir Roger 
de Coverley it is said, " that his great-grand- 
father was the inventor of that famous country 
dance which is called after him." To the 
tune, as printed in Chappell's English Me- 
lodies, is appended a note to the effect that it 
was called after " Roger of Coverley" (Cowley, 
near Oxford). 

Can any one inform me 

I. Where any notice of that Roger is to be 
found ? 

II. What is the etymon of "Cowley" 
(Temple Cowley and Church Cowley) ? 

III. If any notice of the tune is to be met 
with earlier than 1695, when it was printed 
by II. Playford in his Dancing Master ? W. 


Who was the author of the two following 
works? " Remarks upon the History of the 
Landed and Commercial Policy of England, 
from the Invasion of the Romans to the 
Accession of James I. 2 vols. London : 
Printed for E. Brooke, in Bell Yard, Temple 

" The History of the Life, Reign, and Death 
of Edward II., King of England and Lord of 
Ireland, with the Rise and Fall of his great Fa- 
vourites, Gaveston and the Spencers. Written 
by E. F. in the year 1627, and printed ver- 
batim from the original. London : Printed 
by J. C. for Charles Harper, at the Flower-de- 
Luce in Fleet St.; Samuel Crouch, at the 
Prince's Arms, in Pope's Head Alley in Corn- 
hill ; and Thomas Fox, at the Angel in West- 
minster Hall, 1680. (a portrait of Ed. II.)" In 
the 1st vol. Ilarl. Miscell. it is said that the 
i above was found with the papers of the first 
Lonl Falkland, and is attributed to him. 
My copy has PaoloonbHdge insiM-trd in MS. 
over the F., and a book plate of Earl Verney, 
i motto, *' Prodesse quam co?ispici" with an 
j escutcheon of pretence. ANGLO-CAMBRIAN 


Mr. Editor, Amongst the later authorities 
on subjects of British-Roman antiquity, the 
[lev. Thomas Leman is constantly referred 
to, and in terms of great commendation. 

Can you inform me whether that gentle- 
man published any work or made an avowed 
communication of any of his researches ? His 
name is not found in the Index to the Archce- 

Mr. Leman contributed largely to Mr. 
Hatcher's edition of Richard of Cirencester ; 
but it is one of the unsatisfactory circum- 
stances of this work that these contributions, 
and whatever may have been derived from the 
late Bishop of Cloyne, are merely acknow- 
ledged in general terms, and are not distin- 
guished as they occur. 

I believe the MS of the work was all in 
Mr. Hatcher's handwriting ; some of your 
readers may possibly have the means of know- 
ing in what way he used the materials thus 
given, or to what extent they were adapted 
or annotated by himself. A. T. 

Coleman Street, Nov. 13. 


Sir, Will any of your readers favour me 
with an account of the origin, as well as the 
date of the introduction, of the term " Gothic? 
as applied to the Pointed Styles of Ecclesias- 
tical Architecture ? 

This Query is, of course, intimately con- 
nected with the much-disputed question of 
the origin of the Pointed Style itself. But 
yet I imagine that the application of the 
term " Gothic" may be found to be quite dis- 
tinct, in its origin, from the first rise of the 
Pointed Arch. The invention of the Pointed 
Arch cannot, surely, be attributed to the 
Goths ; whence then the origin and the 
meaning of the term Gothic ? R. VINCENT. 

Winchester, Nov. 12. 


Sir, I think you may safely add Pepys's 
Diary to the list of books in illustration of 
which you are willing to receive both Que- 
ries and Answers. There is not a passage in 
the Diary that does not deserve to be under- 



[No. 4. 

At vol. iv. p. 435. of the new edition is the 
following entry: 

" 7 May. 1668. Here [at the King's Theatre] 
I did kiss the pretty woman newly come, called 
Pegg, that was Sir Charles Sedley's mistress, a 
mighty pretty woman, and seems (but is not) 

On this Lord Braybrooke has the following 
note : 

" Pegg must have been Margaret Hughes, Prince 
Rupert's mistress, who had probably before that 
time lived with Sir Charles Sedley." 

And then follows some account of Mrs. 
Hughes. But, query, was the " Pegg" of the 
Diary, Peg Hughes ? was she not rather, as I 
believe her to have been, Katherine Pegg, by 
whom King Charles II. had a son, Charles 
Fitz-Charles, created Earl of Plymouth, 29th 
July, 1675, died 1680? 

Katherine Pegg has escaped Lord Bray- 
brooke. Can any of your correspondents tell 
me who she was ? PETER CUNNINGHAM. 


What are the modern names of " Wate- 
wich," "Portum Pusillum," "Mare de Sahara," 
"Perpessa," and "Northmuth?" They are 
not to be found in Ferrario's Lexicon (a geo- 
graphical dictionary so defective that it has 
not even the Latin name for Aix-la-Chapelle), 
nor in Baudrand's Lexicon Geographicum (a 
good dictionary for the medieval Latin names 
in France, but not so perfect as the Index 
Geographicum attached to the volumes of 
Bouquet), nor in Martiniere's Grande Dic- 
tionnaire Geographique, nor in the Index to 
Wright's Courthand, a miserable and imper- 
fect compilation. 

[These Queries are addressed to our corres- 
pondents in a very flattering review of " NOTES 
AND QUERIES" which appeared in the Morning 
Herald of the 16th of November, and we shall be 
very glad to receive such answers to all or any of 
them as it may be in the power of any of our 
friends to supply.] 



Sir, I have had intrusted to me a MS. 
metrical book on Alchymy, wrytten by me 
Myles Blomefylde, late of Bury Saynct Ed- 

munde in y e Countye of Suffolke, Physy- 
tione;" but I can find no account of the 
author. Warton, Ritson, and Tanner, men- 
tion a "William Blomefield, born at Bury, 
Bachelor in Physic and a Monk of Bury," 
who wrote inter alia a metrical work called 
Bloomefield's Blossoms, or the Camp of Phi- 

Were there two metrical writers on al- 
chymy of the name of Bloomfield, temp. Eliz., 
and connected with Bury ? BURIENSIS. 

[The following Note by Park, which first ap- 
peared in the edition of Warton published in 
1840, iii. p. 83., coupled with the fact that William 
Blomefield is described as a Bachelor of Physic, 
would seem to show that there is but one writer, 
whose proper name is not William, but Myles : 
"From Ashmole's Notes on Theatrum Chemicum, 
1652, p. 478., it seems doubtful whether his name 
was not Myles."] 


Mr. Editor, Can any of your corre- 
spondents inform me who was the " streict 
laced" gaoler of the records, alluded to in 
the following passage in the Collection of 
Chancellors of England, by Francis Thynne, 
inserted in Holinshed (ed. 1808) iv. 351. 

" John, Chancellor of England in the time of 
king Henrie the second, but what he was or in 
what yeare of king Henrie he lived 1 doo not 
know, and therefore leaue it to him that loth can 
and o'Ught to giue life to these persons whom he 
imprisoneth in the east castell of London; not 
doubting but in time he will doo his countrie 
good, and correct other men ; though now he be so 
streict laced, as that he will not procure anie fur- 
therance of other men's trauels." 2. 


Mr. Editor, In examining the Ordnance 
Survey of Kent, I was quite surprised at the 
recurrence of the name "Cold Harbour;" 
and again, in Wyld's Map of London in 1550. 

I believe the point has been explained be- 
fore, but perhaps some of your readers could 
give me some information as to its origin. 

G. H. B. 

Nov. 8. 1849. 

[The Society of Antiquaries was a good deal 
occupied, we scarcely know whether we may say 
interested, in the question raised by our corre- 
spondent, during the last session : and consider- 

Nov. 24. 1849.] 



able information upon the subject will be found in 
the published Proceedings of the Society, and in 
the last part of the Archeeologia. We should like 
to know whether there are Cold Harbours in 
every county in England. Mr. Hartshorne pub- 
lished a long list in his Salopia Antigua. If our 
correspondents can give us any addition to that 
list, they will be acceptable. We are aware that 
there are several in Kent.] 


Mr. Editor, If any reader of your valu- 
able and muqh-needed periodical can, through 
its medium, supply me with the title of some 
recent and authentic work containing Statistics 
of the Roman Catholic Church e. g. the 
number of its members, or reputed members, 
in the different European States ; the number 
and temporalities of its sees, clergy, &c. he 
will confer on me a great obligation ; one 
which it will be a pleasure to me to repay to 
some other " Querist," should it lie within 
my power to supply any desired information, 
in my turn. Your faithful servant, E. E. 


Sir, perhaps some of the readers of your 
useful publication could inform me where I 
can find the name and birth-place of incum- 
bents of church livings prior to 1680, and the 
patrons of them. Your well-wisher, L. 



I shall be obliged to any of your corre- 
spondents who will inform me why the Nine 
of Diamonds is called the curse of Scotland. 
I have heard two causes assigned. One, that 
the Duke of Cumberland, on the field after 
the battle of Culloden, wrote upon the back 
of this card a very cruel and inhuman order 
for the destruction of the persons and property 
of the rebels. This cannot be true, for I have 
in my possession a print entitled " Britons 
Association against the Pope's Bulls." In it 
the young Pretender or Prince is represented 
attempting to lead across the Tweed a herd 
of bulls laden with curses, excommunications, 
indulgences, &c. c. &c. On the ground be- 
fore them lies the Nine of Diamonds. This 
print is dated Oct. 21. 174o, some months 
previous to the battle of Culloden. 

The other cause assigned is, that the nine 
lozenges with which the saltire is charged in 
the armorial bearings of the Earl of Stair, 
are so arranged as to resemble the nine of 
diamonds, which was called the curse of Scot- 
land, from the active part taken by that Earl 
in promoting the Union, which was most 
unpopular in Scotland. I cannot positively 
deny that the card in question owes its evil 
name to this cause, but I am not aware that 
the Earl of Stair was so conspicuously active 
as to occasion his being peculiarly selected as 
an object of popular aversion on that account. 
He was indeed a commissioner for drawing 
up the articles of the Union, and he was 
sent ambassador to the court of Louis XIV. 
chiefly for the purpose of watching the pro- 
ceedings of the Jacobites ; these circumstances 
may have added to the odium which attached 
to his name from the part which was taken 
by his predecessor, who was Secretary for 
Scotland, and was charged with having ex- 
ceeded his authority in ordering the massacre 
of Glencoe. EDW. HAWKINS. 

Nov. 12. 1849. 

[We would add to Mr. Hawkins's Query, another, 
viz. : What is the earliest known instance of the 
card in question being so designated? For it is 
clear, if such was the case before the Union, the 
second explanation is as little satisfactory as the 


The collectors of British portraits and there 
are doubtless many such among our readers will 
shortly have such an opportunity of enriching 
their portfolios as rarely presents itself. Messrs. 
Sotheby and Co. commence, on the 3rd of Decem- 
ber, the sale of the second portion of the import- 
ant and valuable stock of prints belonging to the 
well-known and eminent printsellers, Messrs. W. 
and G. Smith, whose shop in Lisle Street, Leices- 
ter Square, has been for so many years the favourite 
resort of all who were in search of the rare and 
curious in calcographic art. Messrs. Sotheby de- 
scribe the present Sale as " comprising one of the 
most numerous and interesting collections of Bri- 
tish Historical Portraits ever offered for sale ;" 
and the following Lots, which exhibit specimens of 
the rarities it contains, justify their statement. 
33 ARCHIBALD EAKL OF ARGYLL, by Logyan, first *tate t 
before the inscription round the onal, VERY FINK 

AND RARE ... 1 

56 SIR WM. ASHURST, Lord Mayor of London, 1694, 
after Linton, by R. White, VERY FINE AND 
RARE . . 1 



[No. 4. 

LONDON, &c. 1680, whole length, W. Sherwin 
sculpt., sold by S. Lee, at the Feathers in Lumbert 

130 SIR RICHARD RAINSFORD, Lord Chief Justice of 
the King's Bench, mezzotint after Claret, R. 

flower in his hand, sold by Compton Holland, 


176 FREDERICK KING OF BOHEMIA, half length, stand- 
ing under an arch, four Latin lines beneath, no 
engraver's name, VERY FINE AND EXTREMELY 

RARE ... 1 

son of the King of Bohemia, on horseback, with 
a view of London beyond him ; circles contain- 
ing the dates of the births of his brothers and 
sisters at the top on the left, eight English lines 
boneath ; a most interesting and rare print, BRIL- 

228 SIR JOHN FENWICK, of Fenwick Castle, in the 
County of Northumberland, executed in 1696, on 
suspicion of being engaged in a plot to assassinate 
William III., after Wissing, by White, VERY FINE 


244 THOMAS CARTWRIGHT, Bishop of Chester, after 
Soust, by Becket, VERY FINE AND RARE 1 

LESTRY, called by Charles II. CHIPLEY, CHOPLEY, 
CHEPLEY, from the picture in Christchurch Hall, 
by Sir P. Lely, D. Loggan excudit, BRILLIANT 


304 SIR HENRY CHAUNCEY, the historian of Hertford- 
shire, by J. Savage, fine and rare . 1 



Passe, sold by Sudbury and Humble, VERY FINE 

AND RARE ... 1 



558 ISAAC MILLES, by Ferine, first state, before the 

alterations of the arms and inscription, very fine 

and rare ; and the same, in the ordinary state 2 

661 THOMAS THYNN OF LONG LEATE, murdered in Pall 

Mall 1682, after Kneller, by White, VERY FINE 

AND RARE . . 1 

662 THOMAS THYNN, mezzotint after Lely, sold by 


997 LOUISE DUCHESS OF PORTSMOUTH, with her son as 

Cupid, after Gascar, by Baudot, VERY FINE AND 

EXTRF.MELY RARE, from Mr. Orrf's collection, at 

the sale of which it produced Si. 1 2s. 6d. 1 

1000 LOUISE DUCHESS OF PORTSMOUTH, reclining on a 

couch, oblong mezzotint, FINE PROOF BEFORE ANY 


1048 Hobson the Cambridge Carrier, author of " Hob- 
son's Choice," by J. Payne, two states, very fine 


and rare 

1201 John Frederick, Elector of Saxony, playing at 
chess with Ernest Duke of Brunswick, at the 
moment when Charles V. sent the warrant for 


* # * Vide Robertson's History of Charles the 

1209 ERASMUS, sitting with a book before him, by 
F. HOGENBERG, H. Cock excudebat, 1555, VERY 


We have also received : 

" A Catalogue of English and Foreign Theology, 
including some of the rarest works of our early 
English Divines ; nearly a complete series of the 
Fathers of the Church ; the various Councils and 
most important Ecclesiastical Historians, Litur- 
gical writers, &c." issued by Leslie, of 58. Great 
Queen Street, Lincoln's Inn, which is one which 
will greatly interest all readers of the peculiar 
class to whom it is more particularly addressed. 

The same may be said of the excellent 

" Catalogue of Old and New Books (Part 
CIV.)," just delivered by Petheram of 94. High 
Holborn : which, in addition to theological works, 
exhibits many valuable productions in historical 
and general literature. 

Bernard Quarritch's " Catalogue of Foreign 
Books and Classics, selling at 16. Castle Street, 
Leicester Square," well deserves the attention of 
philologists. It is rich, not only in works illus- 
trative of the Oriental languages and literature, 
but also in those of Germany and Scandinavia. 
Indeed, it is one which should be looked into by 
all students of foreign literature. 

Some curious articles, more especially in early 
Italian and French literature, and on the subject 
of Alchymy, Astrology, Magic, &c., will be found 
in a " Catalogue of Interesting and Rare Books on 
sale, by George Bumstead, No. 205. High Hol- 

William Nield, 46. Burlington Arcade, is, we 
believe, a new candidate for the favours of the 
purchasers of old books. His first Catalogue 
contains some curious Articles in the departments 
of Demonology and Witchcraft ; a few varieties 
belonging to the " Marprelate " class, such as 
" Penri's Exhortation;" and a fine collection of 
Classical Music. 

Lastly, let us mention what cannot but interest 
many readers of " NOTES AND QUERIES," that 
Mr. Lumley, of 56. Chancery Lane, having pur- 
chased the stock of the Society of Antiquaries' 
publications, has divided the volumes of the 
Archaeologia, and has just put forth a Catalogue 
of the separate papers, which are for sale, and of 
which he says very truly, " their value cannot be 
disputed," and they are " now for the first time 
offered thus to the Public." 

Nov. 24. 1849.] 





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NOTES : _ Lord Chatham Queen Charlotte, Original Letter 

respecting - - - - - - - 65 

Gibber's Apology 67 

Ancient Tapestry, by J. R. Planche - - -6 

Travelling in Kngland - - - -, 

Prison Discipline and Execution of Justice 
Medal of the Pretender, by Edw. Hawkins 
John Aubrey, by J. Britton - 

Inedited Song by Suckling - - - - - 

White Gloves at Maiden Assizes, hv William J. Thorns - 
Adversiria Don Quixote Dr. Dove - 

Inscription on Church Plate ... 

Anecdotes of Books, by Joseph Hunter ... 
Queries answered. No. 3. Flemish Account 
Answer to Minor Queries : Richard Greene, &c. 


Sanuto's Doges of Venice - 

MSS. of Sir Roger Twysden .... 

Minor Queries : Honnore Pelle Bust of Sir Walter 

Kaleigh, &c. 


Notes on Books, Catalogues, Sales, &c, - - - 

Books and Odd Volumes wanted .... 
Notices to Correspondent* ... 


- 79 


Original Letter, written on the Resignation of Mr. 
Pitt, in 1761 Public Feeling on the Subject, and 
Changes at Court in consequence First Impres- 
sions of Queen Charlotte. 

[The following valuable original letter is now pub- 
lished for the first time. It will be found to be of 
very considerable historical curiosity and interest. The 
resignation of the Great Commoner in 1761, and his 
acceptance at the same time of a pension and a peerage 
fur his family, were events which astonished his ad- 
mirers as much as any thing else in his wonderful 
career. Even now, after the recent publication of all 
the letters relating to these transactions, it is difficult 
to put any construction on Mr. Pitt's conduct which is 
consistent with the high-spirited independence which 
OIK- desires to believe to have been a leading feature of 
his character. There may have been great subtlety in 
the way in which lie was tempted; that may be ad- 
mitted even by the stoutest defenders of the character 
of (Jeoru'e III.; but nothing can excuse the eager, 
rapturous gratitude with which the glittering bait was 

caught. The whole circumstances are related in the 
Chatham Correspondence, ii. 146., coupled with Adol- 
phus's Hist, of England. 

A kind judgment upon them may be read in Lord 
Mahon's Hist, of England, iv. 365., and one more 
severe perhaps, more just in Lord Brougham's 
Historical Sketches, in the article on Lord Chatham. 
See also the Pictorial History of the Rtign of George ///., 
i. 13. After consulting all these authorities the reader 
will still find new facts, and a vivid picture of the 
public feeling, in the following letter ] 

Dear Robinson, I am much obliged to you 
for both your letters, particularly the last, in which 
I look upon the freedom of your expostulations as 
the strongest mark of your friendship, and allow 
you to charge me with any thing that possibly can 
be brought against one upon such an occasion, 
except for^etfulness of you. I left town soon 
after receiving your first letter, and was moving 
about from place to place, till the coronation 
brought me to town again, and has fixed me here 
for the winter ; however I do not urge my un- 
settled situation during the summer as any excuse 
for my silence, but aim to lay it upon downright 
indolence, which I was ashamed of before I re- 
ceived your second letter, and have been angry 
with myself for it since ; however, as often as 
you'll do me the pleasure, and a very sincere one 
it is I assure you, of letting me hear how you do, 
you may depend upon the utmost punctuality for 
the future, and I undertake very seriously to 
answer every letter you shall write me within a 

The ensuing winter may possibly produce many 
things to amaze you; it has opened with one that 
I am sure will; I mean Mr. Pitt's resignation, who 
delivered up the seals to the King last Monday. 
The reason commonly given for this extraordinary 
step is a resolution taken in Council contrary to 
Mr. Pitt's opinion, concerning our conduct towards 
the Spaniards, who, upon the breaking off* of the 
negotiation! with France and our .sending Mr. 
Bussy away, have, it is said, made some declara- 
tions to our Court which Mr. Pitt was for having 
the King treat in a very different manner from 



[No. 5. 

that which the rest of the Cabinet advised; for 
ihey are said to have been all against Mr. Pitt's 
opinion, except Lord Temple. The effect of this 
resignation you'll easily imagine. It has opened 
all the mouths of all the news-presses in England, 
and, from our boasted unanimity and confidence 
in the Government, we seem to be falling apace 
into division and distrust ; in the meantime Mr. 
Pitt seems to have entered, on this occasion, upon 
a new mode of resignation, at least for him, for he 
roes to Court, where he is much taken notice of 
by the King, and treated with great respect by 
every body else, and has said, according to common 
report, that he intends only to tell a plain story, 
which I suppose we are to have in the House of 
Commons, People, as you may imagine, are very 
impatient for his own account of a matter about 
which they know so little at present, and which 
puts public curiosity to the rack. 

Fresh matter for patriots and politicians ! Since 
writing the former part of this letter, I have been 
at the coffee-house, and bring you back verbatim, 
a very curious article of the Gazette. " St. James's, 
Oct. 9. The Right Hon. William Pitt having re- 
signed the Seals into the King's hands, his Majesty 
was this day pleased to appoint the Earl of Egre- 
mont to be one of his principal Secretaries of 
State, and in consideration of the great and im- 
portant services of the said Mr. Pitt, his Majesty 
has been graciously pleased to direct that a 
warrant be prepared for granting to the Lady 
Hester Pitt, his wife, a Barony of Great Britain, 
by the name, style and title of Baroness of Chatham 
to herself, and of Baron of Chatham to her heirs 
male ; and also to confer upon the said William 
Pitt, Esq. an annuity of 3000Z. sterling during his 
own life, that of Lady Hester Pitt, and that of 
their son John Pitt, Esq. ! " 

A report of this matter got about the day before, 
and most unfortunately all the newspapers con- 
tradicted it as a scandalous report, set on foot 
with a design to tarnish the lustre of a certain 
great character. This was the style of the morning 
and evening papers of Saturday, and of those who 
converse upon their authority ; so that upon the 
coming in of the Gazette about ten o'clock at night, 
it was really diverting to see the effect it had upon 
most people's countenances at Dick's Coffee House 
where I was ; it occasioned a dead silence, and ] 
think every body went away without giving their 
opinions of the matter, except Dr. Collier, who has 
always called Mr. Pitt all the rogues he can se 
his mouth on. It appears at present a most unac 
countable proceeding in every part of it, for h<_ 
seems to have forfeited his popularity, on which 
his consequence depended, for a consideration 
which he might have commanded at any time ; am 
yet he does not make an absolute retreat, for in 
that case one should think he would have taker 
the peerage himself. 

Lord Temple has resigned the Privy Seal, which 
commonly said to be intended for Lord Hard- 
vcke; some comfort to him for the loss of his wife, 
, no died a few weeks ago. So that we seem to be 
eft in the same hands out of which Mr. Pitt gloried 
n having delivered us ; for, as you have probably 
leard before this time, Mr. Legge was removed 
rom his place in the spring, for having refused to 
upport any longer our German measures, as has 
jeen commonly said and not contradicted that I 
enow of. Every body agrees that he was quite 
ired of his place, as is generally said on account 
jf the coolness between him and Mr. Pitt, the old 
quarrel with the Duke of Newcastle, and some 
)ique between him and Lord Bute on account of 
he Hampshire election. People were much di- 
rerted with the answer he is said to have made 
,o the Duke of Newcastle when he went to demand 
he seal of his office. He compared his retirement 
,o Elysium, and told the Duke he thought he 
night assure their common friends there, that they 
should not be long without the honour of his 
trace's company ; however, he seems to be out in 
lis guess, for the Newcastle junto, strengthened by 
the Duke of Bedford, who has joined them, seems 
to be in all its glory again. This appeared in the 
Church promotions the other day, for Dr. Young 
was translated, the master of Bennet made a bishop, 
and Mr. York dean : however, as you will pro- 
bably be glad of a more particular account of our 
Church promotions, I am to tell you that the 
scene opened soon after the King's accession with 
the promotion of Dr. Squire to the Bishoprick of 
St. David's, upon the death of Ellis. Some cir- 
cumstances of this affair inclined people to think 
that the old ecclesiastical shop was quite shut up; 
for the Duke of Newcastle expressed great dissa- 
tisfaction at Squire's promotion, and even desired 
Bishop Young to tell every body that he had no 
hand in it. Young answered, that he need not give 
himself that trouble, for Dr. Squire had told every 
body so already, which is generally said to be very 
true : for he did not content himself with saying 
how much he was obliged to Lord Bute, but seemed 
to be afraid lest it should be thought he was obliged 
to any body else. What an excellent courtier ! 
The next vacancy was made by Hoadly, upon 
which Thomas was translated from Salisbury to 
Winchester, Drummond from St. Asaph to Salis- 
bury, Newcome from Llandaff to St. Asaph, and 
that exemplary divine Dr. Ewer made Bishop of 
Llandaff. These were hardly settled when Sherlock 
and Gilbert dropt almost together. Drummond 
has left^ Salisbury for York, Thomas is translated 
from Lincoln to* Salisbury, Green made Bishop 
of Lincoln, and succeeded in his deanery by 
Mr. York : Hayter is translated from Norwich 
to London, Young from Bristol to Norwich, and 
Newton is made Bishop of Bristol ; and I must 
not forget to tell you, that, among several new 

DEC. 1. 1849.] 



chaplains, Beadon is one. This leads me naturally 
to Lord Bute, who, though the professed favourite 
of the King, has hitherto escaped the popular cla- 
mour pretty well : the immense fortune that is 
come into his family by the death of old Wortley 
Montague has added much to his consequence, 
and made him be looked upon as more of an 
Englishman, at least they can no longer call him 
a poor Scot. 

His wife was created a peeress of Great Britain 
at the same time that Mr. Spencer, Mr, Dodding- 
toii, Sir Richard Grosvenor, Sir Nat. Curzen, 
Sir Thomas Robinson, and Sir William Irby were 
created peers. He has married his eldest daughter 
to Sir James Lowther and is himself, froin being 
Groom of the Stole, become Secretary of State 
Lord Ilolderness being removed with very little 
ceremony indeed, but with a pension, to make 
room for him. He and Mr. Pitt together have 
made good courtiers of the Tories ; Lords Oxford, 
Litchfield, and Bruce, being supernumerary lords, 
and Norbonne Berkeley, Northey, and I think 
George Pitt, supernumerary Grooms of the Bed- 
chamber. Sir Francis Dashwood is Treasurer of 
the Chamber, in the room of Charles Townshend, 
who was made Secretary at War upon Lord Bar- 
rington's succeeding Mr. Legge as Chancellor of 
the Exchequer. Lord Talbot, who is in high 
favour, is Steward of the Household, and with his 
usual spirit has executed a scheme of economy, 
which, though much laughed at at first, is now 
much commended. They made room far him upon 
Lord Bute's being made Secretary, at which time 
Lord Huntingdon was made Groom of the Stole, 
and succeeded as Master of the Horse by the Duke 
of Rutland, who was before Steward of the House- 
hold. Thus have I concluded this series of re- 
movals, which was first begun, after the old King's 
death, by Lord Bute's being Groom of the Stole 
in the room of Lord Rochford, who has a pension, 
and Lord Huntingdon's being made Master of the 
Horse instead of Lord Gower, who was made 
Master of the Wardrobe in the room of Sir Thomas 
Robinson, who has his peerage for a recompense ; 
and written you a long letter, which may perhaps 
be no better for you upon the whole than an old 
newspaper. However, I was determined your 
curiosity should be no sufferer by my long silence 
if I could help it. 

1 must not conclude without saying something 
of our new Queen. She seems to me to be! 
with equal propriety and civility, though the com- 
mon people ure quite exasperated at her not being 
handsome, and the people at Court laugh at her 
mtirtesii's. All our frit-mis are well, ami have had 
nothing Imppen to them that 1 know of wliich re- 
quires particular mention. Gisborne either lias 
or will write to you very soon. Convinee me, 
dear Robinson, by writing'soon that you lor^iv,. 
my long silence, "and believe, me to be, with' the 

sincerest regard for you and yours, your most 
affectionate friend, Gr. CBUCH.* 

Mrs. Wilson's, Lancaster Court, 

Oct'. 12* h . 

The Ho* Mr. Will* Robinson 

Recomtnde a Messieurs Tierney Sf Merry f 

a Naples. 
(Memorandum indorsed) 

Ring just reef 1 that o/22 </ Sept. 
16" Oct r . 1761. 


Reverting to a Query in your Second Number, 
p 29, your correspondent DRAMATICUS may rest 
assured that Colley Gibber's characters of actors 
and actresses (his contemporaries and immediate 
predecessors) first appeared in his Apology, 4to. 
1740, and were transferred verbatim, as far as I 
have been able to consult them, to the subsequent 
editions of that very entertaining and excellent 
work. If Colley Gibber were not a first-rate 
dramatist, he was a first-rate critic upon per- 
formers ; and I am disposed to place his abilities 
as a play-wright much higher than the usual 

Probably the doubt of your correspondent arose 
from the fact, not hitherto at all noticed, that 
these characters no sooner made their appearance, 
than they were pirated^ and the pirated work may 
have been taken for the original. It is a scarce 
tract, and bears the following title The Theatrical 
Lives and Characters of the followijig celebrated 
Actors ; and then follow sixteen names, beginning 
with Betterton, and ending with Mrs. Butler, and 
we are also told that A General History of the Stage 
during their time is included. The whole of this, 
with certain omissions, principally of classical 
quotations, 4s taken from Gibber's Apology, and it 
professed to be " Printed for J. Miller, in Fleet 
Street, ami sold at the pamphlet shops/' without 
date. The whole is nothing but an impudent pla- 
giarism, and it is crowned and topped by a scrap 
purporting to be from Shakspeare, but merely the 
invention of the compiler. In truth, it is the only 
original morsel in the whole seventy pages. At the 
end of the character of Betterton, the following is 
subjoined, and it induces a Query, whether any 
such work, real or pretended, as regards Bettertou, 
is in existence > 

" N. B. The author of this work has, since he began 
it, had a very curious manuscript of Mr. Betterton's 

* The name is not easy to be made out ; but as far 
as it is determ'mable by comparison of hand-writing, it 

is " Ouch." The letter passed through the post-office, 
f The part printed in itu/it-s was added by some 
.M>n than the writer of the letter. 



[No. 5. 

communicated to him, containing the whole duty of a 
Player; interspersed with directions for young Actors, 
as to the management of the voice, carnage of the 
body, &c. &c., reckoned the best piece that has ever 
been wrote on the subject," p. 22. 

This " best piece" on the subject, is promised in 
the course of the volume, but it is not found m it. 
Did it appear anywhere else and in any other 
shape ? As the Query of DBAMATICUS is now an- 
swered, perhaps he may be able to reply to this 
question from , j T I 

I should have sent this note sooner, had 1 not 
waited to see if any body else would answer the 
Query of DBAMATICUS, and perhaps afiord some 
additional information. 


Sir, I believe I can answer a Query in your 
Third Number, by N., respecting the whereabouts 
of a piece of ancient tapestry formerly in the pos- 
session of Mr.Yarnold, of Great St. Helen's, Lon- 
don, described, upon no satisfactory authority, as 
" the Plantagenet Tapestry." It is at present the 
property of Thos. Baylis, Esq., of Colby House, 
Kensington. A portion of it has been engraved as 
representing Richard III., &c. ; but it is difficult 
to say what originated that opinion. The subject 
is a crowned female seated by a fountain, and ap- 
parently threatening two male personages with a 
rod or slight sceptre, which she has raised in her 
left hand, her arm being stayed by another female 
standing behind her. This has been said to repre- 
sent Elizabeth of York driving out Richard III., 
which, I need scarcely say, she did not do. There 
are nineteen other figures, male and female, look- 
ing on or in conversation, all attired in the costume 
of the close of the 15th century, but without the 
least appearance of indicating any historical per- 
sonage. It is probably an allegorical subject, such 
as we find in the tapestry of the same date under 
the gallery of Wolsey's Hall at Hampton Court, 
and in that of Nancy published by Mons. Jubinal. 
I believe one of the seven pieces of " the siege 
of Troy," mentioned in Query, No. 3., or an eighth 
piece unmentioned, is now in the possession o 
Mr. Pratt, of Bond Street, who bought it of Mr 
Yarnold's widow. 

I may add that the tapestry in St. Mary's Hall 
Coventry, contains, undoubtedly, representation 
of King Henry VI., Queen Margaret, and Cardina 
Beaufort. It is engraved in Mr. Shaw's secom 
volume of Dresses and Decorations ; but the dat 
therein assigned to it (before 1447) is erroneous' 
the costume being, like that in the tapestries abov 
mentioned, of the very end of the 15th century. 


Brompton, Nov. 20. 1849. 

[To this Note, so obligingly communicated by Mr 

Planche, we may add, that the tapestry in question wa 

xhibited to the Society of Antiquaries at their opening 
neeting on the 22nd ultimo.] 


Mr. Editor, Your No. 3. has just fallen into 
ny hands, with the wonderful account of bchultz s 
mrney of fifty miles in six hours, a hundred years 
I am inclined to think the explanation con- 
ists in a misprint, The distances are given m 
io- U res, and not in words at length, if we may trust 
our correspondent's note on p. 35. May not a 1 
mve "dropped" before the 6, so that the true 
ection will be, " dass wir auf dem ganzen Wege 
aum 16 Stunden gefahren sind"? This time 
Corresponds with the time of return, on which he 
!et out in the evening (at 8 ?) of one day and ar- 
ived at noon the next. It was also most likely 
hat the spring carriages of fifteen years later date 
hould go much faster than the old springless ve- 
licles. Any one who has corrected proofs will ap- 
>reciate the " dropping" of a single type, and may 
>e ready to admit it on such circumst antial evidence. 

I may remark that 1749 was still Old Style in 
but the German Schultz, in dating his 

jinolana ; out tne vxermaii ocuun.,6, iu "" JB " Ja 
expedition on Sunday, 10 Aug. 1749, has used the 
New Style, then prevalent in Germany. Sunday, 
10 Aug. 1749, O. S., was on Thursday, 31 July, 
1749, N. S. The York coach- bill cited on the 
same page is in O. S. 

Is not " #ite-Kutsehe," in the same communi- 
ation, a misprint ? A. J. E. 

G. G. has perhaps a little overrated the import 
of the passage he quotes from Schultz's travels. 
" Dass wir kaum 6 Stunden gefahren sind" even 
supposing there is no misprint of a 6 for an 8 or 9, 
which is quite possible will not, I apprehend, 
bear the meaning he collects from the words, viz. 
that the journey occupied no more than six hours, or 
less even than so much. 

In the first place, I believe it will be allowed by 
those familiar with German idioms, that the phrase 
kaum 6 Stunden, is not to be rendered as though it 
meant no more or less than 6 ; but rather thus : 
" but little more than 6 ;" the "little more," in 
this indefinite form of expression, being a very un- 
certain quantity, it may be an hour or so. 

Then he says merely that they " kaum 6 Stunden 
gefahren sind," which may mean that the time 
actually spent in motion did not exceed the number 
of hours indicated, whatever that may be; and 
not that the journey itself, " including stoppages" 
took up no more. Had he meant to say this, I 
imagine he would have used a totally different 
phrase : e. g. dass wir binnen kaum mehr als 6 Stun- 
den nach London schon gekommen sind ; or some- 
thing like these words. 

Making these allowances, the report is con- 
ceivably true, even of a period a century old, as 
regards the rate of day-travelling on the high road 

DEC. 1. 1849.] 



to Norwich, still at that time a place of much bu 
siness with London. The second journey of the 
Pastor on the same roud was, it seems, by night 
but what is perhaps of more consequence to ex- 
plain is the apparent difference between it and the 
other. It appears that in the second instance we 
are told when he arrived at his journey's end ; in 
the former, nothing beyond the number of hours 
he was actually moving, may have been commu- 
nicated to us. V 

Mr. Editor, I inclose copies of advertisements 
which appear in some old newspapers in my pos- 
session, and which in some decree illustrate the 
history of travelling, and in themselves show, I 
imagine, the advance made between 1739 and 
17G7, since I consider that "The Old Constant 
Froom Flying Waggon," of the former date, was 
the parent of " The Frome Stage Machine " of the 

I notice in the Sherborne paper all public stage 
conveyances are designated as machines. 

Copies of advertisements in The Daily Advertiser 
of the 9th April, 1739: 

For Bath. 

A good Coach and able Horses will set out from 
the Black Swan Inn, in Holborn, on Wednesday or 

Enquire of William Maud." 

" Exeter Flying Stage Coach in Three Days, and 

Dorchester and Blandford in Two days. 
Go from the Saracen's Head Inn, in Friday Street, 
London, every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and 
from the New Jnn, in Exeter, every Tuesday and 
Thursday, perform'd by JOAN PAYNE, 


Note. Once a week there is an entire Dorchester 
and Biandford Coach from Dorchester on Mondays, 
and from London on Fridays. 

The Stage begins Flying on Monday next, the 16th 

" The old standing constant Froom Flying Waggon 
in Three days 

Sets out with Goods and Passengers from Froom for 
London, every Monday, by One o'clock in the morning, 
and will be at the King's Arms Inn, at Holborn 
Bridge, the Wednesday following by Twelve o'clock 
at Noon ; from whence it will set out on Thursday 
morning, by One o'clock, for Amesbury, Shrewton, 
Chittern, lleytesbury, Warminster, Froom, and all 
other places adjacent, and will continue allowing each 
passenger fourteen pounds, and be at Froom, on 
Saturday by Twelve at noon. 

It' any Passengers have Occasion to go from either 
of the aforesaid 1'laees they shall be supplied with able 
Horses and a Guide by Joseph Clavey ; the Proprietor 
of the said Flying Waggon. The Waggon calls at the 
\\ liite Bear in Piccadilly coining in and going out. 

Note. Attendance is constantly given at the King's 

Arms, Holborn Bridge aforesaid, to take in Goods 
and Passengers' names; but no Money, Plate, Bank 
Notes, or Jewels will be insured unless delivered as 
such, perform'd by JOSEPH CLAVEV. 

N. B. His other Waggons keep their Stages as usual." 
From Cruttwell's Sherborne, Shaftesbury, and 
Dorchester Journal, or Yeovil, Taunton, and 
Bridgewater Chronicle, of Friday, February 6th, 
12th, and 20th, 1767. 

* Taunton Flying Machine, 
Hung on Steel Springs, in Two Days. 
Sets out from the Saracen's Head Inn in Friday 
Street, London, and Taunton, every Monday, Wednes- 
day and Friday, at Three o'clock in the morning ; 
and returns every Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday, 
lays at the Antelope in Salisbury, going Up and 
Down : To carry Six inside Passengers, each to pay 

. d. 

To Taunton - - 1 16 

Ilminster - - 1 14 

Yeovil - - 1 8 

Sherborne - - 1 6 O 

Shaftesbury - 1 4 

Outside Passengers and Children in the Lap, Half- 
Fare as above , each Inside Passenger allowed Four- 
teen Pounds Luggage ; all above, to Taunton Two- 
pence per Pound, and so in Proportion to any Part of 
the Road. 

^ No Money, Plate, Jewels, or Writings, will be 
accounted for if Lost, unless Entered as such, and Paid 
for accordingly. 

From the same Paper of Friday, April 17th, 
24th, and May 1st, 1767 : 

Frome, 1767. 
The Proprietors of the 

In Order to make it more agreeable to their Friends 
in the West, have engaged to set out Post Chaises 
from the Christopher Inn, in Wells, every Sunday, 
Tuesday, and Thursday Evenings, at Five o'clock, to 
stop at the George Inn, at Shepton Mallet, and set out 
from thence at a Quarter past Six, to carry Passengers 
and Parcels to Frome, to be forwarded from thence to 
London in the One Day Flying Machine, which began 
on Sunday the 12th of April, 1767 : Also a Chaise from 
Frome every Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday Even- 
ings to Shepton and Wells, as soon as the Coach 
arrives from London, if any Passengers, &c. go down, 
at the following Prices : from Wells to Frome 
Four Shillings, from Shepton Three Shillings, small 
Parcels from Wells to Frome 6d. each, from Shepton 
I'/., large ditto a Halfpenny per Pound from each 
place. All Passengers who intend taking the Advan- 
tage of this method of travelling, are desired to take 
heir Places at the above Inns in Wells and Shepton 
as follows : viz. those who intend going on Sunday 
enter the Tuesday before their going, those who 
50 on Tuesday enter the Thursday before, and for 
riuirsd iv the Sunday before, that proper notice may 
be given at Frome to secure the places: If at any time 



more than three Passengers an extra Chaise to be 

Pr Fare to and from London l\ 8s. OcL Trowbridge, 
1 6 * 0</. Devizes l 2*. 6d. One half to be paid 
at Booking, the other at entering the machine. Inside 
passengers allowed lOlb. wt., all above Three Half- 
pence per pound from Frome as usual The Coach 
will set out from the Crown Inn in Frome, at Ten 
o'clock in the evening of every Sunday, Tuesday, and 
Thursday ; and from the Bull Jnn in Holborne, Lon- 
don, every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday Evening, 
at the same Hour. Books are kept, Places taken, 
and Parcels received, at the Christopher in Wells, the 
George in Shepton, the Crown in Frome, the Wool- 
pack in Trowbridge, and the Bull in Holborne, Lon- 
don ; calls going in and coming out, at the White 
Bear Inn, Piccadilly, and the new White Horse Cellar. 

Perform'd by 
R. MESSETE& at the Crown, at Thatcham, 

J. HITCHCOCK, at the Catherine Wheel, Beckhampton. 

" N. B. No Jewels, Plate, Money, Writings, or 
other things of Value, will be paid for if lost, unless 
enter'd as such, and paid for accordingly." 

With regard to G. G.'s Query as to the time 
occupied in the journey of Schultz from Colchester 
to London, do not the circumstances sufficiently 
prove that by some means six must have been 
written for sixteen ? Sixteen hours would give a 
rate of travelling nearer the average of those days, 
and was about the time occupied on the return to 
Colchester. For if we allow a due time after 
twelve for dinner, settling accounts, and going to 
the inn whence the "Stats-Kutsche " started, and 
for partaking -of the meal there provided, we shall 
very easily get to seven or eight in the evening ; 
sixteen hours after that time would be w towards 
noon" in the following day. A. D. M. 


Sir, I am glad that you devote some part of 
your columns to the good work; of bringing for- 
ward facts, and anecdotes which, though not gene- 
rally known, your readers individually may have 
happened to notice, and which illustrate the 
manners of our ancestors. 1 dare say few of your 
correspondents have met with the London Magazine 
for the year 1741. An imperfect copy fell into 
my hands when a lad ; ever since which time I 
have been in a state of great wonderment at the 
story contained in the leaf which I enclose. I need 
hardly say that the italics are mine ; and perhaps 
they are hardly necessary. Yours, &c., BETA 
" TUESDAY, 21 [June]. 

" A very extraordinary Affair happen'd at the 
County Gaol in Hertford, where four Highwaymen 
very stout lusty Fellows, viz. Theophilus Dean, Charle 
Cof (alias Bacon- Face), James Smith, and Luki 
Ilumphrys, lay under Sentence of Death, pass'd 01 
them the last Assizes, and were intended to have beei 

xecuted the following Day ; Mr. Oxenton, the Gaoler, 
,7,o keeps an Inn opposite to the Prison, went into the 
Gaol about four a Clock in the Morning, as was his 
Custom, attended by three Men, to see if all was safe, 
nd, having loek^d the outward Door sent one of his 
Men down to the Dungeon, where the four Felons had 
ound means to disengage themselves from the Pillar 
nd Chain to which they had been lock'd down, and 
one of them, viz. Bacon- Face, had got off both his 
Hand- Cuffs and Fetters ; on opening the Door, they 
disabled the Man and all rush'd out ; then coming up 
Stairs they aiet the Gaoler and his other two Men, of 
tvhom they demanded the Keys, threatening to murder 
hem if their request was not immediately comply'd 
yith : they then forced his men into the Yard beyond 
he Hatchway, and a Battle ensu'd, in which the 
Gaoler behav'd so manfully, tho 1 he had but one Man 
o assist him, that he maintain'd the Possession of his 
Keys till he was heard by his Wife, then in Bed, to 
call out for Assistance, who fortunately having another 
Key to the Gaol, ran to rescue him ; the Fellows saw 
icr coming and demanded her Key, threatening to 
murder her if she offer'd to assist her Husband : By 
this Time the Neighbourhood was alarm'd, and several 
Persons got to the Gaol Door, when Mrs. Oxenton, 
notwithstanding their Threats, at the utmost Hazard 
of her Life, open'd the same and caught hold of her 
Husband, who was almost spent, and, with the Assist- 
ance of some Persons, got him out and lock'd the Door 
without suffering the Fellows to escape : They con- 
tinued cursing and swearing that they would murder 
the first Man that attempted to enter the Gaol. In 
the mean Time Robert Hadsley, Esq., High- Sheriff, 
who lives about a Mile from the Town, was sent for, 
and came immediately ; he parley'd with them some 
Time to no Purpose, then order' d Fire- Anns to be 
brought, and, in case they would not submit, to shoot 
at them, which these Desperadoes refusing to do, they 
accordingly fired on them, and Theophilus Dean re- 
ceiving a Shot in the Groin, dropt ; then they surren- 
der'd, and the Sheriff instantly caus'd Bacon- Face to 
be hang'd on the Arch of the Sign Iron belonging to the 
Gaoler's House, in the Sight of his Companions and 
great Numbers of People ; the other three were directly 
put into a Cart and carried to the usual Place of 
Execution, and there hang'd before seven a Clock that 
Morning." Land. Mag. July, 1741, p. 360. 


I am well acquainted with the medal described 
by Mr. Nightingale, and can confirm his state- 
ment of the difficulties which numismatists have 
experienced in attempting to explain the circum- 
stances alluded to by the lobster which is the 
badge of " the order of the pretended Prince of 
Wales," and upon which, on the other side of the 
medal, Father Petre is represented as riding with 
the young prince in his arms. Upon other medals 
also the Jesuit appears carrying the prince, who 
is decorated, or amusing himself, with a windmill. 
There is likewise a medal on which a Jesuit is 
represented concealed within a closet or altar, and 

DEC. 1. 1849.] 



raising or pushing up through the top the young 
prince to the view of the people, while Truth is 
opening the door and exj>osing the imposition. 
Similar representations of the Jesuit's interference 
occur upon caricatures and satirical prints exe- 
cuted in Holland. Upon one, entitled " Arlequin 
sur I'Hippogryphe, a la croisade Lojoliste," the 
lobster, on which the Jesuit is mounted, carries a 
book in each claw ; the young prince's head is 
decorated with a windmill. All these intimate the 
influence of Father Petre upon the proceedings of 
James II., and of the Jesuits in general in the 
imposition, as was by many supposed, of the pre- 
tended prince. The imputation upon the legiti- 
macy of the young child was occasioned in a great 
decree, and. almost justified, by the pilgrimages 
and superstitious fooleries of his grandmother, 
increased by his mothers choosing St. Francis 
Xavier as one of her ecclesiastical patrons, and 
with her family attributing the birth of the prince 
to his miraculous interference. This may have 
provoked the opposers of popery to take every 
means of satirising the Jesuits ; and the follow- 
ing circumstances related in the Life of Xavier 
probably suggested the idea of making the lobster 
one of the symbols of the superstitions and impo- 
sitions of the Jesuits, and a means of discrediting 
the birth of the prince by ridiculing the commu- 
nity by whose impositions they asserted the fraud 
to have been contrived and executed. 

The account is given by a Portuguese, called 
Fausto Rodriguez* who was a witness of the fact, 
has deposed it upon oath, and whose juridical 
testimony is in the process of the Saint's canoni- 

" We were at sea,' says Rodriguez, Father Francis, 
John Ilaposo, and myself, when there arose a tempest 
which alarmed all the mariners. Then the Father 
drew from his bosom a little crucifix, which he always 
carried about him, and leaning over deck, intended to 
have dipt it into the sea ; but the crucifix dropt out of 
his hand, and was carried off by the waves. This loss 
very sensiUy afflicted him, and he concealed not his 
sorrow from us. The next morning we landed on the 
Island of Baranura ; from the time when the crucifix 
was lost, to that of our landing, it was near twenty- 
four hours, during which \ve were in perpetual danger. 
Being on shore, Father Francis and I walked along by 
the sea-side, towards the town of Tamalo, and had 
already walked about 50O paces, when both of us be- 
held, arising out of the sea, a crab fish, which carried 
bvtwixt his claws the same crucifix raised on high. I 
saw the crab fish come directly to the Father, by whose 
side I was, and stopped before him. The Fatlier, fall- 
ing on his knees, took his crucifix, after whidi tin- er.tb- 
fisli returned into the sea. Hut the Father still con- 
tinuing in the same humble posture, hugging and 
kissing the erurifix, was half an hour praying with his 
hands across his breast, and myself joining with him in 
thanksgiving to (iod for so evident a miracle ; after 
which we arose and continued on our way.' Thus you 

have the relation of Rodriguez." Dryden's Life of 
St. Francis Xavier, book iii. 



As the biographer and editor of that amiable 
and zealous antiquary JOHN AUBREY, I noticed 
with peculiar interest the statement of your corre- 
spondent, that the date of your first publication 
coincided with the anniversary of his birthday ; 
but, unhappily, the coincidence is imaginary. Tour 
correspondent has, on that point, adopted a care- 
less reading of the first chapter of Aubrey's Mis- 
cellanies, whereby the 3rd of November, the 
birthday of the Duke of York, afterwards James 
the Second, has been frequently stated as that of 
the antiquary himself. See my Memoir uf Aubrey, 
4to. 1845, p. 123. In the same Tolume, p. 13., 
will be found an engraving of the horoscope of 
his nativity, from a' sketch in his own hand. So 
far as his authority is of any value, that curious 
sketch proves inconteatably tbat "the Native" was 
born at 14 minutes and 49 seconds past 17 o'clock 
(astronomical time) on the \\th of March, 1625-6; 
that is, at 14 minutes and 49 seconds past 5 o'clock 
A.M. on the 12M of March, instead of the 3rd of 

Few things can be more mortifying to a bio- 
grapher, or an antiquary, than the perpetuation 
of an error which he has successfully laboured to 
correct. It is an evil, however, to which he is 
often subjected, and which your valuable publi- 
cation will go far to remedy. In the present case 
it is, doubtless, to be ascribe*! to the peculiar nature 
of my Memoir of Aubrey, of which but a limited 
number of copies were printed for the Wiltshire 
Topographical Society. The time and labour 
which I bestowed upon the work, the interesting 
character of its contents, and the approbation of 
able and impartial | ml die critics, justify me in 
saying that it deserves a far more extensive cir- 

After this allusion to John Aubrey, I think I 
cannot better evince my sympathy with your 
exertions than by requesting the insertion of a 
Query respecting one of hie manuscripts. I alludo 
to his Monumenta Britannica, in four folio vo- 
lumes a dissertation on Avebury, Stonehenge, 
and other stone circles, barrows, and similar Dru- 
idical monuments which has disappeared within 
the last thirty years. Fortunately a large portion 
of its contents has been preserved, in extracts 
made by Mr. Hutchins, the historian of Dorset- 
shire, and by the late Sir Uielianl Colt Hoare, 
Bart. ; but the manuscript certainly contained 
much more of great local interest, and some mat- 
ters which were worthy of publication. In the 
Memoir already mentioned, p. 87., the historv of 
the manuscript down to the time of its disappear- 


ance is fully traced. Referring such of your 
readers as may feel interested in the subject to 
that volume, and reserving for future numbers a 
lon<r list of other interesting Queries which are 
now before me, it will gratify me to obtain, through 
your medium, any information respecting the Mb. 
referred to. I remain, Sir, yours truly, 


[Our modesty has compelled us to omit from this 
letter a warm eulogium on our undertaking, well as 
we know the value of Mr. Britton's testimony to our 
usefulness, and much as we esteem it.] 


[No. 5. 


I do not remember to have seen the following 
verses in print or even in MS. before I acci- 
dentally met with them in a small quarto MS. 
Collection of English Poetry, in the hand-writing 
of the time of Charles I. They are much in 
Suckling's manner; and in the MS. are described 

Sir John Suckling's Verses. 

I am confirm'd a woman can 

Love this, or that, or any other man : 

This day she's melting hot, 

To-morrow swears she knows you not; 

If she but a new object find, 

Then straight she's of another mind ; 

Then hang me, Ladies, at your door, 

If e'er I doat upon you more. 

Yet still I'll love the fairsome (why ? 
For nothing but to please my eye); 
And so the fat and soft-skinned dame 
I'll flatter to appease my flame ; 
For she that's musical I'll long, 
When I am sad, to sing a song ; 

Then hang me, Ladies, at your door, 

If e'er I doat upon you more. 

I'll give my fancy leave to range 
Through every where to find out change ; 
The black, the brown, the fair shall be 
But objects of variety. 
I'll court you all to serve my turn, 
But with such flames as shall not burn; 
Then hang me, Ladies, at your door, 
If e'er I doat upon you more. A. D. 


The practice of giving white gloves to judges at 
maiden assizes is one of the few relics of that 
symbolism so observable in the early laws of this 
as of all other countries ; and its origin is doubt- 
less to be found in the fact of the hand being, in 
the early Germanic law, a symbol of power. By the 
hand property was delivered over or reclaimed, hand 
joined in hand to strike a bargain and to celebrate 

espousals, &c. That this symbolism should some- 
times be transferred from the hand to the glove 
(the hand-schuh of the Germans) is but natural, 
and it is in this transfer that we shall find the 
origin of the white gloves in question. At a 
maiden assize no criminal has been called upon to 
plead, or, to use the words of Blackstone, "called 
upon by name to hold up his hand;" in short, no 
guilty hand has been held up, and, therefore, after 
the rising of the court our judges (instead of re- 
ceiving, as they did in Germany, an entertainment 
at which the bread, the glasses, the food, the linen 
every thing, in short was white) have been 
accustomed to receive a pair of white gloves. The 
Spaniards have a proverb, " white hands never 
offend; " but in their gallantry they use it only in 
reference to the softer sex ; the Teutonic races, 
however, would seem to have embodied the idea, 
and to have extended its application. 


A LIMB or THE LAW, to a portion of wl 
Query, in No.* 2. (p 29.), the above is intended 
as a reply, may consult, on the symbolism of the 
Hand and Glove, Grimm Deutsches Rechtsalther- 
thiimer, pp. 137. and 152., and on the symbolical 
use of white in judicial proceedings, and the after 
feastings consequent thereon, pp. 137. 381. and 
869. of the same learned work. 

[On this subject we have received a communication 
from F. G. S., referring to Brand's Popular Antiquities, 
vol. ii. p. 79., ed. 1841, for a passage from Fuller's 
Mixed Contemplations, London, 1660, which proves the 
existence of the practice at that time ; and to another 
in Clavell's Recantation of an Ill-led Life, London, 
1634, to show that prisoners, who received pardon 
after condemnation, were accustomed to present gloves 
to the judges : 

" Those pardoned men who taste their prince's loves, 
(As married to new life) do give you gloves."] 

Mr. Editor, "Anciently it was prohibited the 
Judges to wear gloves on the bench ; and at pre- 
sent in the stables of most princes it is not safe 
going in without pulling off the gloves." Cham- 
bers' Cyclopaedia, A.D. MDCCXLI. 

Was the presentation of the gloves a sign that 
the Judge was not required to sit upon the Bench 
their colour significant that there would be no 
occasion for capital punishment? Embroidered 
gloves were introduced about the year 1580 into 

Or were gloves proscribed as the remembrances 
of the gauntlet cast down as a challenge ? " This 
is the form of a trial by battle ; a trial which the 
tenant or defendant in a writ of right has it in his 
election at this day to demand, and which was the 
only decision of sueh writ of right after the Con- 
quest, till Henry II., by consent of Parliament, 
introduced the Grand Assise, a peculiar species 
of trial by jury." Blackstone, Commentaries, 

DEC. 1. 1849.] 



vol. iii. p. 340. Perhaps after all it was only an 
allusion to the white hand of Justice, as seems 
probable from the expression Maiden- Assize. 

Yours, &c. M. W. 

Nov. 17. 1849. 

P.S. Perhaps the "Lady-bird" in Suffolk de- 
rives its episcopal title, alluded to by LEGOUR, from 
appearing in June, in which month fulls the Fes- 
tival of St. Barnabas. 


Don Quixote. 

Sir, Have the following contradictions in Cer- 
vantes' account of Sancho's ass "Dapple" ever 
been noticed or accounted for ? 

In Don Quixote, Part. I. chap. 23., we find 
Dapple's abduction at night by Gines de Passa- 
monte ; only a few lines afterwards, lo ! Sancho is 
seated on her back, sideways, like a woman, eating 
his breakfast. In spite of which, chap. 25. proves 
that she is still missing. Sancho tacitly admits 
the fact, by invoking " blessings on the head of 
the man who had saved him the trouble of un- 
harnessing her." Chap. 30. contains her rescue 
from Passamonte. MELANION. 

Doctor Dove, of Doncaster. 

The names of " Doctor Dove, of Doncaster" and 
his steed u Nobbs," must be familiar to all the ad- 
mirers, in another word, to all the readers, of 
Southey's Doctor. 

Many years ago there was published at Canter- 
bury a periodical work called The Kentish Register. 
In the No. for September, 1793, there is a ludi- 
crous letter, signed " Agricola," addressed to Sir 
John Sinclair, then President of the Royal Agri- 
cultural Society ; and in that letter there is fre- 
quent mention made of " Doctor Dobbs, of Don- 
caster, and his horse Nobbs." This coincidence 
appears to be too remarkable to have been merely 
accidental ; and it seems probable that, in the 
course of his multifarious reading, Southey had 
met with the work in question, had been struck 
with the comical absurdity of these names, and had 
unconsciously retained them in his memory. 

P. C. S. S. 


Mr. Editor, Herewith I have the pleasure of 
sending you a tracing of the legend round a repre- 
sentation of St. Christopher, in a latten dish be- 
longing to a friend of mine, and apparently very 
similar to the alms-basins described by CLERICUS 
in No. 3. 

Tin- upper line "In Frid gichwart der," 
written from right to left, is no doubt to be read 
thus : Deri n Frul gich it-art. The lower line con- 

tains the same words transposed, with the variation 
of "gehwart" for "gichwart." The words "geh- 
wart" and "gichwart" being no doubt blunders 
of an illiterate artist. 

In Modern German the lines would be : 
Darin Frieden gewarte Therein peace await, or 

look for. 

Gewarte darin Frieden Await, or look for, therein 

In allusion, perhaps, to the eucharist or alms, to 
hold one or the other of which the dish seems to 
have been intended. J>. 


MS. of English Gesta Romanorum. 

Your work, which has so promising a commence- 
ment, may be regarded as, in one department, a 
depository of anecdotes of books. Under this head 
I should be disposed to place Notes of former pos- 
sessors of curious or important volumes : and, as 
a contribution of this kind, I transmit a Note on 
the former possessors of the MS. of the Gesta Ro- 
manorum in English, which was presented to the 
British Museum in 1832, by the Rev. W. D. Cony- 
beare, now Dean of Llandaff, and has been printed 
at the expense of a member of the Roxburgh Club. 
It is No. 9066 of the MSS. called Additional. 

Looking at it some years ago, when I had some 
slight intention of attacking the various MSS. of 
the Gesta in the Museum, I observed the names of 
Gervase Lee and Edward Lee, written on a fly- 
leaf, in the way in which persons usually inscribe 
their names in books belonging to them ; and it 
immediately occurred to me that these could be no 
other Lees than members of the family of Lee of 
Southwell, in Nottinghamshire, who claimed to 
descend from a kinsman of Edward Lee, who was 
Archbishop of York in the reign of Henry VIII., 
and who is so unmercifully handled by Erasmus. 
The name of Gervase was much used by this family 
of Lee, and as there was in it an Edward Lee 
who had curious books in the time of Charles II., 
about whose reign the name appears to have been 
written, there can, I think, be little reasonable 
doubt that this most curious MS. formed a part of 
his library, and of his grandfather or father, Ger- 
vase Lee, before him. 

Edward Lee, who seems to have been the last of 
the name who lived in the neighbourhood of South- 
well, died on the 23rd of April, 1712, aged 76. 

That he possessed rare books I collect from this : 
that the author of Grammatica Reformata, 12mo. 
1683, namely John TwelLs, Master of the Free 
School at Newark, says, in his preface, that he 
owed the opportunity of perusing Matthew of 
|PiMftlltJUfor"tOthe kindne.-s ofthat. learned patron 
of learning, K'hvanl Lee, of Norwcll. Esquire." 

And now, having given you a Note, I will add 



[No. 5, 

a Query* and ask, Can any one inform me what 
became of this library, or who were the represen- 
tatives and heirs of Edward Lee, through whom 
this MS. may have passed to Mr. Conybeare, or 
give me any further particulars respecting this 
Edward Lee ? 

A person who asks a question in such a publi- 
cation as yours ought to endeavour to answer one. 
I add therefore that Mr. Thorpe no mean au- 
thority on such a point in his Catalogue for 1834, 
No. 1234, says that E. F. in the title-page of The 
Life of King Edward II., represents " E. Falk- 
land :" but he does not tell us who E. Falkland 
was, and it is questionable whether there was any 
person so named living at the time when the book 
in question was written. There was no Edward 
Lord Falkland before the reign of William III. 
Also, in answer to Dr. Maitland's Query respecting 
the fate of Bindley 's copy of Horde's Dyetary of 
Health, 1567, in a priced copy of the Catalogue 
now before me, the name of Rodd stands as the 
purchaser for eleven shillings. JOSEPH HUNTEB. 

Nov. 26. 1849. 


A Flemish Account, Sfc. 

The readiness with which we adopt a current 
saying, though unaware of its source, and there- 
fore somewhat uncertain as to the proper mode of 
applying it, is curiously exemplified by the out- 
standing query on the origin and primary signi- 
fication of the phrase A Flemish account. 

I have consulted, in search of it, dictionaries of 
various dates, the glossaries of our dramatic anno- 
tators, and the best collections of proverbs and 
proverbial sayings but without success. 

The saying casts no reproach on the Flemings. 
It always means, I believe, that the sum to be 
received turns out less than had been expected. 
It is a commercial joke, and admits of explanation 
by reference to the early commercial transactions 
between the English and the Flemings. 

I rely on the authority of The merchants mappe 
of commerce, by Lewes Roberts, London, 1638, 
folio, chap. 179: 

In Ajitwerp, which gave rule in trade to most 
I other cities, the accounts were kept in livres, sols, 
and deniers ; which they termed pounds, shillings, 
and pence of grosses. Now the livre was equal 
only to twelve shillings sterling, so that while the 
Antwerp merchant stated a balance of 11. 13s. 4d., 

the London merchant would receive only 1Z. 

which he might fairly call A Flemish account! 

The same instructive author furnishes me with 
a passage in illustration of a recent question on 
the three golden balls, which seem to require ad- 
ditional research. It occurs in chap. 181 : 

" This citie [Bruges] hath an eminent market place, 
with a publicke house for the meeting of all marchants, 

at noone and evening : which house was called the 
Burse, of the houses of the extinct familie Bursa, bear- 
ing three purses for their armes, ingraven upon their 
houses, from whence these meeting places to this day 
are called Burses in many countries, which in London 
wee know by the name of the Royall Exchange, and of 
Britaines Burse." BOLTON CORNET. 

I think it probable that the expression " Flemish 
Account" may have been derived from the fact 
that the Flemish ell measures only three quarters 
of our yard, while the English ell measures five 
quarters, and that thence the epithet Flemish was 
adopted as denoting something deficient. Q. Q. 

When commerce was young, the Flemings were 
the great merchants of Western Europe ; but these 
worthies were notorious, when furnishing their 
accounts current, for always having the balance 
at the right side (for themselves), and hence arose 
the term. I am not at this moment able to say 
where this information is to be had, but have met 
it somewhere. JUNIOR. 

I wonder that some better scholar than myself 
should not have explained the phrase "Flemish 
account ; " but though I cannot quote authority for 
the precise expression, I may show whence it is 
derived. To Jlem, in old Scotch (and in old 
English too, I believe), is to " run away ; " in modern 
slang, to" make oneself scarce," "to lev ant "Piemen 
is an outcast, an outlaw. It is easy to understand 
the application of the word to accounts. Your 
querist should consult some of the old dictionaries. 


There is an old story that a Count of Flanders 
once gave an entertainment to some Flemish mer- 
chants, but that the seats on which they sat were 
without cushions. These " princes of the earth " 
thereupon folded up their costly velvet cloaks, 
and used them accordingly. When reminded, on 
their departure, of having left their cloaks behind, 
they replied, that when asked to a feast they were 
not in the habit of carrying away with them the 
chair cushions. Could this have originated the 
expression " Flemish account ? " In this case the 
proud merchants gave such an account of a va- 
luable article in their possession, as made it out to 
be quite worthless to the owner. MUSAFIR. 


Richard Greene, Apothecary. 
Mr. Richard Green, the subject of H. T. E.'s 
Query (No. 3. p. 43.), was an apothecary at Lich- 
field, and related to Dr. Johnson. He had a con- 
siderable collection of antiquities, &c., called 
" Green's Museum," which was sold, after his death, 
for a thousand pounds. See Boswell's Johnson, 
Croker's edition, vol. v. p. 194. 

DEC. 1.1849.] 



Form of Petition. 

Sir, In reply to B. in your third number, who 
requests information as to the meaning of the 
"&e." at the foot of a petition, I fear I must 
say, that at the present day, it means nothing at 
all. In former times it had a meaning. I send 
you a few in>tanee$ from the Chancery Records of 
the year 1611. These petitions to Sir E. Phillips 
or Phelips, M. R., end thus : 

" And he and liis wife and six children shall dailie 
praie for your Worship's health and happincs I 

" And slice shall accurdinge to her bounden duetie 
pray for your good Worship in health and happinesse 
longe to continewe ! 

' And both your said supliants and their children 
slial he bound dailie to praie for your Worship's health 
and happines with increase of honour ! " 

These instances are taken at random from 
amongst many others. The formula, slightly varied, 
is the same in all. The modern form was, however, 
even at that early date, creeping in, for I see a 
petition to L. C. Ellesmere, of the same year, has 

" And he shall dailie praie, &c." 

This will probably suffice to answer B.'s Query. 


Jlegistrar's Office, Court of Chancery, 
Nov. 20. 1349. 

Greene of Greensnorton. 

Sir Thomas Greene, of Greensnorton, Co. North- 
ampton, Knt. died 30 Nov. 1506 22 Hen. VIL 
By Jane, daughter of Sir John Fogge, Knt., he left 
issue two daughters and coheirs : 

Ann, the eldest, set 17, at her father's death, was 
wife of Nicholas Vaux, Lord Vaux, of Harrowdun, 
who died in 1556, now represented by George 
Mostyn, Ha. -on Yaux, and Robert Henry, Earl of 
Pembroke, and Edward Bourchier Hartopp, Esq. 

Matilda, the youngest, was aged 14 at her father's 
death, and married Sir Thomas Parr, by whom 
she had William Marquess of Northampton (who 
died s.p. 1571); Anne, wife of William Herbert, 
Earl of Pembroke (now represented by Robert 
Henry, Karl of Pembroke) ; and Catherine, Queen 
Consort of King Henry VIII. The assumption of 
anus, by Richard Green, the Apothecary, in 1770, 
will afford no ground for presuming his descent 
from the Greensnorton family. G. 

Cottle's Life of Coleridge, when reviewed in the 

The Times review of Joseph Cottle's 
niscences of Coleridge and Southey, appeared Nov. 
3. 1847; and on the following day, Mr. Thomas 
Holeroft. complained by letter of a misrepresenta- 

tion of his father by Mr. Collie. ^ 

Times, Ilt-mlil, (Y//VI///W,', ^c., when first 

respondents, to furnish some reply to the Query 
ofD. (No. l.p. 7.) 

The Times first appeared under that title on the 
1st January, 1788, but bore the Number 941, it 
being a continuation, under a new name, of the 
Universal Register, of which 940 numbers had been 
published. The Morning Chronicle must have 
commenced in 1769, as a correspondent, F. B., 
writes to tell us that he possesses No. 242. dated 
Monday, 12th March, 1770. See further NiohoFa 
literary Anecdotes, i. 303. ; and for Morning Ad- 
vertiser, established in 1794, the same volume, 
p. 290. Another correspondent writes: During 
J849 the Morning Chronicle has completed its 
81st year; next in seniority stands the Morning 
Post, at 77 ; and the Morning Herald, at 65. The 
Times in the numbering of its days, is in its 64th 
year, but has not really reached ite grand climac- 
teric, for its three years of infancy passed under 
the name of The Universal Register, it having 
only received its present appellation in the open- 
ing of 1788. The Morning Advertiser is wearing 
away its 54th year. 

The Public Ledger, commenced in 1759, or 
1760, is however, the oldest Daily Paper. 

Dome the Bookseller Henno Rusticus, etc. 

Sir, In answer to W. in page 12. of No. 1., I 
beg to suggest that Dormer, written Domr in the 
MS. a common abbreviation may be the name 
of the Oxford bookseller, and Henno Rusticus may 
be Homo rusticus, " the country gentleman." The 
hand- writ ing of this MS. is so small and illegible 
in soi in- places, that it requires an (Edipus to de- 
cipher it ; and the public will have much reason 
to thank those lynx-eyed antiquaries who have 
taken great pains to render it intelligible. " The 
Sige of the End," is of course properly explained 
to be " the Signe of the End." J. I. 

We are enabled, by the courtesy of several cor- 


Sir,--The high value of your Journal as a 
repertory of interesting literary information, which 
without it might be lost to the world, is becoming 
daily more apparent from the number and charac- 
ter of your correspondents. You have my best 
wishes for its success. 

The communication of Sir FREDERICK MADDEN 
respecting the singular and obvious error in 
Marin Sanuto's Lives of the Doges of Venice, has 
renewed in me a desire for information which I 
have hitherto been unable to obtain ; and I will, 
thi Tet'ore, with your permission, put it here as a 

Wlio was i\\v foreigner who gave to the world the 
very intere.-tinir book resjieeting Sanuto under the 
following title y Jfnggufigli sulla Vita e sidle Opere 
di Marin Sanuto, tyc. Intitolati dalC amicizia di 



[No. 5. 

uno Straniere al nobileJacopo Vicenzo Foscarini. 
Opera divise in tre parti, Venezia, 1837-8. in 8vo. 
The able writer has noticed the very mutilated 
and incorrect manner in which Muratori has printed 
all that he has given of Sanuto, and especially 
Le Vite de Dogi, of which the original copy sti 
remains inedited in the Estensian Library a 
Modena. There can be no doubt that some igno 
rant or indolent transcriber made the mistake o 
iudeo for richo, so satisfactorily and happily eluci 
dated by Sir FREDERICK MADDEN. How much i 
is to be regretted that the Diary of Sanuto, so re 
inarkable for its simplicity and ingenuous truthfu 
air, should still remain inedited. It relates to an 
epoch among the most interesting of Modem His 
tory, and the extracts given in the Ragguagli only 
make us wish for more. 

From this Diary it appears that the Valori were 
among the most distinguished citizens of a state 
which could boast that its merchants were princes 
The palace they inhabited is now known by the 
name of the Altoviti, its more recent owners, and 
many of the tombs of the Valori are to be found in 
the church of St. Proculus. Macchiavelli mentions 
Bartolomeo Valori among the Cittadinid' autorita, 
and, according to Nardi, he was Gonfaloniere in 
the first two months of the years 1402, 1408, and 
1420. He was also one of the Platonic Academy 
that Ficino assembled around him. In this Diary 
of Sanuto will be found many minute and interest- 
ing details respecting Savonarola, and the relation 
of the tragical death of Francisco Valori, who had 
also been several times Gonfaloniere, and whom 
Savonarola, in his confession, said it was his in- 
tention to have made perpetual Dictator. 

I would have given a specimen of this very in- 
teresting diary, but that I scrupled to occupy space 
which your correspondents enable you to fill so 
effectively, for I fully subscribe to the dictum of 
the Ragguagliatore, "IlS.umtosi presenta come 
Jo Scott degli Storici, compiacendosi come Sir 
H alter delle giostre, delle feste, e delle narrazioni 
piacevole e di dolce pietL g. \\r. g 

Mickleham, Nov. 23. 1849. 


Sir, An answer to the following " Query" 
would be most interesting to myself, and, perhaps, 
not altogether without its value to the literary 
world. ' 

Among Sir Roger Twysden's MSS. I have a 
letter from him to his son at Oxford, requesting 

"' 881 ? w W i th the Uni veMit3r for the loan 
MS. of Walter Alapes " de nugis curialium? 
in order that he might prepare it for publication. 
He instances the liberality of the Archbishop of 
Canterbury in having lent him from Lambeth the 
of Anselm and Becket ; and adds, that by 

being permitted to retain these MSS. in his hands 
for some years, he had now prepared them for the 

I cannot learn that they were ever printed, 
and among the voluminous MS. remains of Sir 
Roger now in my hands, I cannot find the smallest 
trace of them. Can any of your readers inform 
me what became of this collection, which, by Sir 
Roger's statement, was finished and completely 
ready for the press ? 

To this " Query " I may as well add a " Note," 
which may be interesting to some of your readers. 

In Sir Roger's MS. Journal of his persecutions 
by the Parliament, he states : 

" It is sayd King Charles subscribed the byll for 
taking away the votes of Bishops, in y* very house where 
Christian religion was first preached, viz. S*. Au- 
gustines by Canterbury." 


Ryarsh Vicarage, Nov. 17. 


Honnore Pelle. 

Who was " Honnore Pelle, 1684 " ? My reason 
for asking this is, I have a marble bust of Charles II. 
of colossal size, most splendidly sculptured, with 
the long curling hair and full court dress of the 
seriod, and the execution and workmanship of 
which would do honour to any sculptor of the 
past or present time.' On the stump of the arm 
are the name and date which I have given above, 
and I have in vain looked into biographical works. 


Bust of Sir Walter Raleigh. 
Is there an authentic bust of Sir Walter Raleigh 
n existence ? and if so, where is it to be found ? 


Motto of University of Cambridge. 
From what author, " chapter and verse," comes 
he motto of the University of Cambridge, HINC 
LUCEM ET POCULA SACRA ? It is used as a quota- 
.1011 in Leighton on St. Peter's Epistle, but in the 
ast edition the learned editor does not give a 
eference. j. j. S> 

Family of Giles of Worcestershire. 
Can you tell me any thing of a family named 
rzfr.v, whose crest was a horse's head ? They 
were connected with Worcestershire. ^ 

Passage from an Old Play. 

Can any of your many readers oblige me by 
nforraing me where the following very strikini 
assage can be found? I have \seen the linel 
uoted as from an Old Play ;" but a tolerably 
xtensive knowledge of old plays, and a diligent 

DEC. 1. 1849.] 



search, have not hitherto enabled me to find 

them : 

" Call you the city gay, its revels joyous? 
They may he so to you, for you are young, 
.Belike and happy. She was young in years, 
But often in mid-spring will blighting winds 
Do autumn's work; and there is grief at heart 
Can do the work of years, can pale the cheek, 
And cloud the brow, and sober down the spirit. 
This gewgaw scene hath fewer charms for her 
Than for the crone, that numbering sixty winters, 

Pronounceth it all folly Marvel not 

'Tis left thus willingly." 

Athenaum Club. Nov. 17. 1849. 

Daltons Doubling's Downfall. 

About thirty years ago the following appeared 
in Lackington and Co.'s book catalogue: "Dalton 
(Edward) Doubling's Downfall, 1*. 6rf." Applica- 
tion was made, when other books were ordered, 
three several times ; in each case the answer was 
" sold." Since that date inquiries have been in- 
stituted from time to time, in the usual quarters, 
but always unsuccessfully. No clue can be given 
as to the size or date, but from the quaintness of 
the title it is presumed to be about the period of 
the Commonwealth. 

Should any of your readers procure this work, 
the liberal price of 20*. if a book, or 10s. if a pam- 
phlet, will be paid for it through your medium, by 


Authors of Old Plays. 
Query the authors of the following plays ? 

1. The Tragedy of Nero newly written. London : 
printed by Aug. Mathewes for Thomas Jones, and are 
to be sold at his shoppe in Saint Dunstane's Church- 
yard in Fleete Street. 1633. 

2. Sicily and Naples, or the Fatall Vnion, a Tragaedy. 
By S H. A B e C."~ Ex. Oxford: printed by 
William Turner, 1640. 

3. Emilia. London: printed for the author, 1672. 

4. Sir Gyles Goose-Cappe Knight, a comedy lately 
acted with great applause at the private House in 
Salisbury Court. London: printed for Hu.ujh 1'erry, 
and are to be sold by Roger Ball, at the Golden 
Anchor in the Strand, neere Temple Barre, 1636. 

I have given the title-pages in full, omitting a 
Latin motto which adorns the title- na^e of the 

M.A. of Exeter College. 


Periwinkle a Mocking Emblem. 

Can any of your readers, learned in the language 
of flowers, inform me why, when Sir W. l-Ya>.T 
(tlu- last of Wallace's adherents) was led in triumph 
through tin' streets of London, with his legs tied 
under his horse's belly " a garland of Periwinkle 
was in mockery placed upon his head:'" Sri- 
Ty tier's History of Scotland, cap. 3. MELANION. 

Wives of Ecclesiastics. 

Sir, In looking over some ancient charters a 
few days ago, I met with one dated 22 Edw. III., 
by which " Willielmus de Bolton clericus et 
Goditha uxor ejus," release a claim to certain 
lands. If William de Bolton was an ecclesiastic, 
as I suppose, how is it that his wife is openly 
mentioned ? 

I shall be much obliged to any of your readers 
for an explanation. A SUBSCRIBER. 


Sir, In Howell's Letters, Sect. 5. p. 9. the fol- 
lowing words occur : 

" At the return of this fleet two of the Whelps were 
cast away, and three ships more." 

I should feel obliged to any of your correspond- 
ents who may be able to favour me with an expla- 
nation of the word Whelps in this passage. J. J. 


J. J. S. informs us, with reference to a Note in 
No. 2. (p. 21.), "that an account of Anglesey 
Abbey, in Cambridgeshire, is ready, and will be 
published ere long." 

Our attention has been directed to the Pro- 
spectus of a series of " Cottage Prints from Sacred 
Subjects, intended chiefly for distribution among 
the poor," which will be so produced as to form a 
set of illustrations to the Bible ; " although it is 
chiefly contemplated that the Prints, protected by 
a small frame, should find their way into the homes 
of the poor, and decorate their walls." The Editors, 
the Rev. H. J. Rose and Rev. J. W. Burgon, well 
observe : " We shall in vain preach reverence to 
the ear on Sundays, if the eyes may be famili- 
arised with what is irreverent for the six days 
following. On the other hand, we shall surely be 
supplying ourselves with a powerful aid, if we may 
direct the eye to forms of purity .and beauty ; and 
accustom our village children, (who are now our 
hope,) from infancy, to look daily on what is holy, 
and pure, and good." Subscribers of one guinea 
in advance are promised, in the course of the year, 
at least fifty such engravings as the four which 
accompany the Prospectus. 

Messrs. Puttick and Simpson commenced on 
Thursday a nine days' Sale of the "Curious, rare, 
and valuable Library of a well-known Collector, 
deceased;" also another Collection, including 

Theology; Spanish, English, and other Chronicles: 
Specimens of the Early Typography of English and 
Foreign Printers; a very complete Series of the Pro- 
ductions of the Family of Aldus; rare editions of the 
Classics ; numerous interesting and important Spanish 
Books ; a very extensive Collection of Works relating 



[No. 5. 

to the Discovery, History, Natufal History, Language, 
Literature, and Government of America and its Depen- 
dencies, Mexico, the East and West Indies, &c. 1 Voy- 
ages, Travels, and Itineraries : Fine Books of Prints ; 
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Wood-cuts, and Emblems ; a most interesting Col- 
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of the History and Progress of the English Language 
and Literature, including a perfectly unique Collection 
of the Works of Daniel De Foe ; several hundred rare 
Tracts, particularly an extensive Series relating to 
Charles I. and his Contemporaries, others of a Local 
and Personal Character, Biographies, rare Histories of 
remarkable Characters, Facetiae, and an unusually large 
assemblage of curious and rare Articles in almost every 
Class of Literature ; a few MSS. &c. 

Among the Lots deserving attention in the 
course of the coming week, are Nos. 1323 to 1375, 
a large collection of publications relative to Ame- 
rica; Nos. 1612 to 1620, relating to Canada. 
1574 BARROS ( Joan, de) Decades da Asia. Decadal, 
2., Lisboa, 1552-53; Decada 3., ib. 1563; 
Decada 4., Madrid, 1615; COUTO, Decada 4, 
5, 6., Lisboa, 1602-16; Decada 8,9, 10. ib. 
1736 together 8 vols. morocco 
Nearly all the copies of the 6th Decade were de- 
stroyed by fire, and the few that are to be met 
with are generally, if not always, deficient in 
some leaves. The title-page to this copy (as 
in Mr. Grenville's) is supplied by the title to 
the 4th Decade, and a few leaves are wanting. 
For the rarity of this work, see BibliothecaGren- 
villiana, vol. i. p. 60. 

And, lastly. Lot 1701 ; which contains a match- 
less series, in 154 vols., of the Works of Daniel De 
Foe, whom Coleridge was inclined to rank higher 
than Addison for his humour and as a writer of 
racy vigorous English. 

The Lot is thus described : 

" THIS MATCHLESS SERIES of the Works of this dis- 
tinguished Author was formed with unwearied dili- 
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during the greater portion of his life. 

" The numbers to 208 refer to the Catalogue of the 
Works as published in his Life of Defoe, 3 vols. 1830; 
those following have been discovered by Mr. Wilson 
since the period of that publication. This Collection 
is rendered still further complete by the addition of 
upwards of forty pieces by a recent possessor. The ex- 
treme difficulty of forming sucn a collection as the 
present is very apparent when we compare its volumi- 
nous contents with those very few collections which, 
during the last fifty years, have on the dispersion of 
celebrated libraries occurred for sale." 

We have this week received a most important 
and valuable 

"Catalogue of Bibles and Biblical Literature, con- 
taining the best works, ancient and modern, on the 
aism, Interpretation, and Illustration of Holy 
Scripture, and including such of the Fathers and Ec- 

clesiastical Writers as have treated on these subjects, 
classified with Analytical Table of Contents and Alpha- 
betical Indexes of Subjects and Authors, &c. on Sale, 
by C. J. Stewart, 11. King William St., West Strand. 

Mr. Stewart explains that in addition to what 
are "strictly regarded as Biblical, there will be 
found in it the works of those Fathers, Mediaeval 
and more recent Writers, who treat upon subjects 
connected with Scripture, each accompanied with 
an enumeration of such portions of his works ; and 
under heads (more especially extensive under com- 
mentators) references are given to these writers, 
so as to afford a condensed view of authorities or 
sources of information." Mr. Stewart states also 
that he has other Catalogues in preparation, we 
presume in continuation of the present one, and 
exhibiting the same system of arrangement, and, 
if so, we feel that the series will be of the greatest 
value to all theological students. 

Collectors of Autographs and Engraved Por- 
traits will thank us for directing their attention 
to a 

" Catalogue of Books, Prints, Manuscripts, and Au- 
tograph Letters ; being a part of the Stock of Horatio 
Rodd, brother and successor to the late Thomas Rodd, 
No. 23. Little Newport Street," 
in which they will find many interesting Auto- 
graphs and curious Portraits. 

We have also received 

" A List of Secondhand Books on Sale by George 
Honnor, 304. Strand ;" and 

" A Catalogue of Books, Ancient and Modern, on 
Sale, by W. Pedder, 12. Holywell St. Part VI. 1849." 








LIFE OK HON. ROBERT PRICE, Chief Justice of the Common Pleas, 

London. 1734 


Venet. 1716. Or the 2nd Vol. only. 

svo. leifi. 


OVER HIS Two SONS. 8vo. 1716. 
NATURE, A POEM. Folio. 1736. 



burgh. 1801. Vol. III. 

RECORDS. Svo. 1832. The First Volume of. 
LIVY. Vol. I. of Crevier's Edition. 6 vols. 4to. Paris. 1739. 
OGILBY'S BRITANNIA. Folio. 1675. Vol II. 

*#* Letters stating particulars and lowest price, carriage free, 
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WORKS, (comprising the Plays and Poems,) 
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-*~* tions and Versions of Holy Scripture : and of 
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such patristic and ecclesiastical Writers as have treated 
on Scriptural topics, the latter arranged so as to exhibit 
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to the Rt- formation; with references under each head 
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West Strand, London. 

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portant facilities to those in search of books in particular depart- 
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expense and labour, but must be well repaid (?) by the facilities 
aflbrded to purchasers." Kitto's Journal of Sacred Literature. 

" We have much pleasure in recommending to our readers' 
attention this valuable and well arranged catalogue. Mr. Stewart's 
collection of works, in all the branches of a theological library, 
ranks high, both for number and selectncss, among the very best 
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" When found, make a note of." CAPTAIN CUTTLE. 

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A few Words of Explanation - - - - 81 
NOTES : Letter from the Earl of Shaftesbury respecting 

Monmouth's Ah - . - - - - 82 
Drayton's Poems - - - * 81 
On a Passage in Goldsmith - - - - - 83 
Ancient Libraries, by Hev. Dr. Todd - - - 83 
Defence of a Bald Head, by J. Payne Collier - - 84 
Koyal Household Allowances - - . - 85 
Adversaria: Printers' Couplets Charles Martel - 86 
Rodenham and Ling - - - - - 86 
Travelling in England - - - - - 87 
Minor Notes : Ancient Alms Dish Bishop that 
Burneth Ironworks in Sussex, &c Order of Mi- 
nerva, &c. - - . - - - - 87 
Queries answered : 

Dome the Bookseller - - - - 88 

Hnnno Rusticus - - - - - - 89 

Myles lilomefylde 90 

Answers to Minor Queries : Curse of Scotland 
Katherine Pegg Rev. T. Leman Burnet Prize 
Humble Pie, &c. - - - - - -90 

MINOR QUERIES : Eva, Daughter, &c. John de Daun. 
delyon Genealogy of European Sovereigns Duke of 

Ashgrove, &c. - - - - - 92 


Notes on Books, Catalogues, Sales, &c. - - - 04 

Books and Odd Volumes wanted - - - - 95 
Notices to Correspondents . - . -95 

Advertisements - - - 95 


IT was in no boastful or puffing spirit that, when 
thanking a correspondent in our last number for 
" his endeavour to enlarge our circulation," and 
requesting all our friends and correspondents " to 
follow PHILO'S example by bringing ' NOTES AND 
QUERIES ' under the notice of such of their friends 
as take an interest in literary pursuits," we added 
"for it is obvious that they will extend the use- 
fulness of our paper in proportion as they iu :' 
its circulation." We wished merely to state a plain 
obvious fact. Such must necessarily be the case, 
and our experience proves it to be so ; for the 
number of Queries which have been solved in our 
columns, has gone on increasing in proportion to 
the gradual increase of our circulation ; a result 
which fully justifies that passage of our opening 
address which stated, " that we did not anticipate 

any holding back by those whose Notes were most 
worth having." 

No sooner is information asked for through our 
medium, than a host of friendly pens are busied to 
supply it. From north, south, east, and west, 
from quarters the most unlocked for, do we re- 
ceive Notes and Illustrations of every subject 
which is mooted in our pages. Many of these re- 
plies, too, though subscribed only with an initial 
or a pseudonyme, we know to be furnished by 
scholars who have won the foremost rank in their 
respective branches of study. Such men manifest, 
by their willingness to afford information to those 
who need it, and their readiness to receive it from 
those who have it to bestow, the truthfulness of 
old Chaucer's portrait of the Scholar : 

" Ful gladly wolde he lerne, and gladly teche." 
Nor do our columns exhibit the total result of our 
labours. Besides the information communicated 
to ourselves, some of our friends who inserted 
Queries under their own names, have received 
answers to them without our intervention. 

In addition to those friends who promised us 
their assistance, we receive communications from 
quarters altogether unexpected. Our present num- 
ber furnishes a striking instance of this, in the 
answer to Mr. Bruce's inquiry respecting the 
" Monmouth Ash," kindly communicated by the 
Earl of Shaftesbury, its distinguished owner. 

We trust that each successive paper shows im- 
provement in our arrangements, and proves also 
that our means of procuring answers to the Que- 
ries addressed to us are likewise increasing. In 
the belief that such is the case, we feel justified in 
repeating, even at the risk of being accused of 
putting in two words for ourselves under the sem- 
blance of one for our readers, "that it is obvious that 
our friends will extend the usefulness of our paper 
in proportion as they increase its circulation." 



[No. 6. 


Letter from the Earl of Shaftesbury accompanying 
a short " History of Monmouth Close," for- 
merly printed by his Lordship for the information 
of persons visiting that spot. 

The whole of Woodlands now belongs to me. 
The greater part of it was bought by my late 
brother soon after he came of age. 

I knew nothing of Monmouth Close till the year 
1787, when I was shooting on Horton Heath ; the 
gamekeeper advised me to try for game in the 
inclosures called Shag's Heath, and took me to 
see Monmouth Close and the famous ash tree there. 

I then anxiously inquired of the inhabitants of 
the neighbouring houses respecting the traditions 
concerning Monmouth Close and the celebrated 
ash tree, and what I then learnt I have printed for 
the information of any person who may visit that 

What I have since learnt convinces me that the 
Duke was not going to Christchurch. He was^on 
his way to Bournemouth, where he expected to find 
a vessel. Monmouth Close is in the direct line 
from Woodyates to Bournemouth. 

About sixty years ago there was hardly a house 
there. It was the leading place of all the smugglers 
of this neighbourhood. SHA.FTESBURY. 

St. Giles's House, Nov. 27. 1849. 


" The small inclosure which has been known by 
the name of MONMOUTH CLOSE ever since the cap- 
ture of the Duke of Monmouth there, in July, 
1685, is one of a cluster of small inclosures, five 
in number, which stood in the middle of Shag's 
Heath, and were called ' The Island.' They are 
in the parish of Woodlands. 

" The tradition of the neighbourhood is this : 
viz. That after the defeat of the Duke of Mon- 
mouth at Sedgemoor, near Bridgewater, he rode, 
accompanied by Lord Grey, to Woodyates, where 
they quitted their horses ; and the Duke having 
changed clothes with a peasant, endeavoured to 
make his way across the country to Christchurch. 
Being closely pursued, he made for the Island, 
and concealed himself in a ditch which was over- 
grown with fern and underwood. When his pur- 
suers came up, an old woman gave information of 
his bein in the Island, and of her having seen him 
filling his pocket with peas. The Island was im- 
mediately surrounded by soldiers, who passed the 
night there, and threatened to fire the neighbour- 
ing cotts. As they were going away, one of them 
espied the skirt of the Duke's coat, and seized 
him. The soldier no sooner knew him, than he 
burst into tears, and reproached himself for the 
unhappy discovery. The Duke when taken was 
quite exhausted with fatigue and hunger, having 
had no food since the battle but the peas which he 

had gathered in the field. The ash tree is still 
standing under which the Duke was apprehended, 
and is marked with the initials of many of his 
friends who afterwards visited the spot. 

" The family of the woman who betrayed him 
were ever after holden in the greatest detestation, 
and are said to have fallen into decay, and to have 
never thriven afterwards. The house where she 
lived, which overlooked the spot, has since fallen 
down. It was with the greatest difficulty that any 
one could be made to inhabit it. 

" The Duke was carried before Anthony Ette- 
rick, Esq., of Holt, a justice of the peace, who 
ordered him to London. 

" His gold snuff box was afterwards found in 
the pea-field, full of gold pieces, and brought to 
Mrs. Uvedaile, of Horton. One of the finders had 
fifteen pounds for half the contents or value of it. 

" Being asked what he would do if set at liberty, 
the Duke answered, that if his horse and arms 
were restored, he only desired to ride through the 
army, and he defied them all to take him again." 


In addition to the notes on Drayton by Dr. 
Farmer, communicated in your 2nd number, the 
following occur in a copy of Drayton's Poems, 
printed for Smithwicke, in 1610, 12mo. : 

" See the Return from Parnassus for a good character 
of Drayton. 

" See an Epigram by Drayton, I suppose, prefixed 
to Morley's first BooJie of B alkies. 

" A Sonnet to John Davies, before his Holy Rcode, 
or Christ's Crosse, 4to. (1610). A Poem in 6 line 

" Another to the old edit, of Wit's Commonwealth. 

" Commendatory Verses before Chapman's Hesiod. 

" Sonnet to Ant. Mundy's 2nd Book of Primation 
of Greece, 1619. 

" His Heroical Epistles were newly enlarged and re- 
published in 8vo. 1598; which is the most antient edi- 
tion we have seen or read of. [Bodl. CaL~\ Bioyra- 
phia his Art. 

"Another edition, as we have heard, in 1610. 

" See Mere's Wifs Treasury, p. 281. A modern 
edition was published by Oldmixon. Gibber's Lives, 
4. 204. 

" See Warton's Essay on Pope, 296. 

" Drayton's last Copy of Verses was prefixed to Sir 
John Beaumont's Poems, 1629." 

So far Dr. Farmer, whose books are often valu- 
able for the notes on the fly-leaves. Should any 
one act upon the suggestion of your correspondent, 
and think of a selection from Drayton, it would 
be necessary to collate the various editions of his 
poem?, which, as they are numerous, evince his 
popularity with his contemporaries. 

Mulone asserted that the Barons Wars was not 

DEC. 8. 1849.] 



published until 1610. I have before me a copy, 
probably the first edition, with the following title : 
" The Barrens Wars in the raigne of Edward the 
Second, with England's Heroical Epistles, by Mi- 
chaell Drayton. At London, Printed by J. R. for 
N. Ling, 1603," 12mo. : and the poem had been 
printed under the title of Mortimer indos, in 4to., 

I have an imperfect copy of an early edition 
(circa 1600) of " Poemes Lyrick and Pastorall. 
Odes, Eglogs, The Man in the Moon, by Michael I 
Drayton Esquier. At London, Printed by It. B. 
for N. L. and J. Flaskett." 

It is now thirty-five years since (eheu ! fugaces 
labuntur anni!) the writer of this induced his 
friend Sir Egerton Brydges to print the Nym- 
phidia at his private press ; and it would give him 
pleasure, should your Notes be now instrumental 
to the production of a tasteful selection from the 
copious materials furnished by Drayton's prolific 
muse. Notwithstanding that* selections are not 
generally approved, in this case it would be (if 
judiciously done) acceptable, and, it is to be pre- 
sumed, successful. 

The Nymphidia, full of lively fancy as it is, was 
probably produced in his old age, for it was not 
published, I believe, till 1627, when it formed 
part of a small folio volume, containing The Bat- 
taile of Agincourt and The Miseries of Queene 
Margarite. Prefixed to this volume was the noble 
but tardy panegyric of his friend Ben Jonson, 
entitled The Vision, and beginning : 

" It hath been question'd, Michael, if I be 
A friend at all ; or, if at all, to thee." 

S. AV. S. 
Micklcham, Nov. 10. 18-19. 


Sir, I observe in the Athenccum of the 17th 
inst. a quotation from the Life of Goldsmith by 
Irving, in which the biographer seems to take 
credit for appropriating to Goldsmith the merit of 
originating the remark or maxim vulgarly ascribed 
to Talleyrand, that " the true end of speech is not 
so much to express our wants as to conceal them." 

ThK is certainly found in No. 3. of The Bee, by 
Goldsmith, and no doubt T.'Ueyrand acted upon 
tin: principle of dissimulation there enunciated; 
but the idea is much older than either of those 
individuals, as we learn from a note in p. 113. <>i 
vol. Ixvii. Quart. Rev., quoting two lines written 
by Young (nearly one hundred years before), in 
allusion to courts: 

" Win-re Nature's end of language is declined, 
And men talk only to conceal their mind." 

Voltaire has used tin- .-ame expression so long 
:IL"> as 17<i:!, in his little s:uiric dialogue La Chapon 
et la Poularde, where the former, complaining of 

the treachery of men, says, " Us n'emploient les 
paroles quo pour deguiser leurs pensces." (See 
xxix. torn. CEuvres Completes, pp. 83, 84. ed. Paris. 

The germ of the idea is also to be found in 
Lloyd's State Worthies, where, speaking of Roger 
Ascham, he is characterised as "an honest man, 
none being more able for, yet none more averse 
to, that circumlocution and contrivance wherewith 
some men shadow their main drift and purpose. 
Speech was made to open man to man, and not to 
hide him; to promote commerce, and not betray it." 

Lloyd's book first appeared in 1665, but I use 
the ed. by Whitworth, vol. i. p. 503. F. R. A. 

Oak House, Nov. 21. 1849. 

[The further communications proposed to us by 
F. R. A. will be very acceptable.] 



Mr. Editor, I have been greatly interested by 
the two numbers of the " NOTES AND QUERIES" 
which you have sent me. The work promises to 
be eminently useful, and if furnished with a good 
index at the end of each yearly volume, will be- 
come a book indispensable to all literary men, and 
especially to those who, like myself, are in charge 
of large public libraries. 

To testify my good will to the work, and to 
follow up Mr. Burtt's remarks on ancient libraries 
published in your second number, I venture to 
send you the following account of a MS. Catalogue 
of the Library of the Monastery of the Friars 
Eremites of the Order of St. Augustine in the 
City of York. 

This MS. is now preserved in the Library of 
Trinity College, Dublin, amongst the MSS. for- 
merly belonging to the celebrated Archbishop 
Ussher. It is on vellum, written in the 14th cen- 
tury, and begins thus : 

" Inventarium omnium librorum pertinentium ad 
commune armariole domus Ebor. ordinis fratrum 
heremitarum Sancti Augustini, factum in presentia 
fratrum Johannis de Ergum, Johannis Ketilwel), 
Ricardi de Thorpe, Johannis dc Appilby, Anno domini 
M. CCC Ixxij in festo nativitatis virginis gloriose. 
Fratre Willelmo de Stayntoun tune existente priore." 

The volume consists of forty-five leaves, and 
contains the titles of a very large and most re- 
spectable collection of books in all departments of 
literature and learning arranged under the follow- 
ing heads : 


Hystoric scholastice. 
Textus biblie glosati. 

Ceneordaoeifl et interprctacones nominum he- 



[No. 6. 

Originalia. [Under this head are included the 
works of the Fathers, and medieval writers.] 

Historie gencium. 

Summe doctorum. Scriptores super sententias. 
quodlibet. et questiones. 

Tabula?. [This division contains Indexes to 
various authors, the Scriptures, canon law, 

Logical ia et philosophia cum scnptis et com- 

Prophecie et supersticiosa. 

Astronomia et Astrologia. 

Instrumenta astrologica magistri Johannis Erg- 
home [who appears to have been a great 
benefactor to the Library], 

Libri divini officii magistri Johannis Erghome. 

Jura civilia. 

Jura canonica et leges humane* magistri Jo- 
hannis Erghome. 

Auctores et philosophi extranei. [Under this 
head occurs the following entry " Liber he- 
braice script us."] 

Grama tica. 

Rethorica. [Two leaves of the MS. appear to 
have been cut out here. ] 

Medici na. 

Hystorie et Cronice. 

Sermones et materie sermonum. 

Summe morales doctorum et sermones. 

Arithmetica, Musica, Geometria, Perspectiva, 
magistri Johannis Erghome. 

Each volume is identified, according to the 
usual practice, by the words with which its second 
folio begins : and letters of the alphabet are added, 
probably to indicate its place on the shelves of the 
Library. As a specimen, I shall give the division 
headed "Biblie": 


A. Biblia. incipit in 2. fo. Samuel in * heli 

B. Biblia. incipit in 2. fo. Zechieli qui populo. 
in duobus voluminibus. 

C. Biblia. inc e . in 2. fo. mea et in erne 

D. Biblia. inc*. in 2. fo. ego disperdam. 
Tf Libri magistri Johannis Erghome 

Biblia. 2. fol. ravit quosdam. \ 
Interpretationes J 

E. Billia incomplet. diversarum scripturarum. 

quondam fratris R. Possal. 2. fo. me 
occidet me etc. 


A. Incipit in 2. folio, secunda die 

B. inci*. in 2. fo. emperio sane formatis. ligatus. 

C. inci* in 2 fo. et celumque celi. 

The words printed in Italics are added by a 
more recent hand. Under the head of " Hystorie 
Scolastice" are doubtless intended the copies which 
the Library possessed of the celebrated Historia 
Scholastic^ or abridgment of Scripture history by 
Peter Comestor. 

* Sic perhaps a mistake for et. 

From the foregoing specimen, I think your 
readers will agree with me that a Catalogue of 
such antiquity and interest is well worthy of pub- 

But we have another ancient Catalogue of a 
monastic library equally curious, and even more 
important, from its magnitude, and the numerous 
works it contains on English history, early ro- 
mances, &c. I remain, &c. JAMES H. TODD. 

Trin. Coll. Dublin, Nov. 27. 1849. 



I am about to supply a deficiency in my last 
volume of Extracts from the Registers of the 
Stationers' Company (printed for the Shakespeare 
Society, 1849), and thereby set an example that I 
hope will be followed, in order that various works, 
regarding which I could give no, or only incom- 
plete, information, may be duly illustrated. It is 
impossible to expect that any one individual could 
thoroughly accomplish such an undertaking ; and, 
by means of your excellent periodical, it will be 
easy for literary men, who possess scarce or unique 
books, mentioned in the Registers and in my 
quotations from them, to furnish such brief de- 
scriptions as will be highly curious and very 

A tract of this description has just fallen in my 
way, and it relates to the subsequent entry on 
p. 97 of vol. ii. of my Extracts : the date is 22nd 
September, 1579. 

" H. Denham. Lycensed unto him, &c A Para- 
dox, provinge by reason and example that baldnes is 
much better than bushie heare - - - vj d " 

When I wrote the comment on this registration 
I was only acquainted with the clever MS. ballad 
in Defence of a Bald Head, which I quoted; but I 
hardly supposed it to be the production intended. 
It turns out that it was not, for I have that pro- 
duction now before me. My belief is that it is 
entirely unique ; and the only reason for a con- 
trary opinion, that I am acquainted with, is that 
there is an incorrect mention of it in Warton, 
H. E. P. iv. 229.; but there is not a hint of its 
existence in Ritson, although it ought to have 
found a place in his Bibliographia Poetica ; neither 
do I find it noticed in later authorities ; if it be, 
they have escaped my researches. You will not 
blame me, then, for indulging my usual wish to 
quote the title-page at length, which exactly agrees 
with the terms of the entry in the books of the 
Stationers' Company. It runs literatum thus : 

" A Paradoxe, proving by reason and example, that 
baldnesse is much better than bushie haire, &c. Writ- 
ten by that excellent philosopher Synesius, Bishop of 
Thebes, or (as some say) Cyren. A prettie pamphlet 
to pervse, and replenished with recreation Englished 

DEC. 8. 1849.] 



by Abraham Fleming. Herevnto is annexed the 
pleasant tale of Hemetes the Heremite, pronounced 
before the Queenes Maiestie. Newly recognised both 
in Latine and Englishe, by the said A. F. rjTJjs ffo<j>tas 
<f>a\(LKpa (T7j/Ltov. The badge of wisedome is baldnesse. 
Printed by H. Denham, 1579." 8vo. B. L. 

If I am not greatly mistaken, your readers will 
look in vain for a notice of the book in any col- 
lected list of the many productions of Abraham 
Fleming ; if I am not greatly mistaken, also, some 
of them will be disappointed if I do not subjoin a 
few sentences describing more particularly the 
contents of the small volume, which (speaking as a 
bibliographer) extends to sign. F. iiij in eights. 

At the back of the title-page is " The life of 
Synesius drawen out of Suydas his gatherings," in 
Greek and in English. Then comes " The Epistle 
Apologeticall to the lettered Reader," signed 
"Thine for thy pleasure and profile Abraham 
Fleming," which, in excuse for taking up so slight 
a subject, contains a very singular notice of the 
celebrated John Heywood, the dramatist of the 
reign of Henry VIII., and of his remarkable poem 
The Spider and the Fly. The Pretie Paradoxe, 
by Synesius, next commences, and extends as far 
as sign. D v. b. This portion of the tract is, of 
course, merely a translation, but it includes a 
passage or two from Homer, cleverly rendered into 
English verse. Here we come to the word Finis, and 
here, I take it, it was originally intended that the 
tract should end ; but as it was thought that it 
would hardly be of sufficient bulk for the money 
(4rf., or 6d. at the utmost), a sort of appendix was 
added, which, on some accounts, is the most in- 
teresting part of the work. 

It is headed " The tale of Hemetes the Heremite, 
pronounced before the Queenes Maiestie," which 
Warton, who clearly never saw the book, calls the 
" Fable of Hermes." In fact, it is, with a few 
verbal changes, the tale of Hemetes, which George 
Gascoigne presented, in Latin, Italian, French, 
and English, to Queen Elizabeth, and of which the 
MS., with the portraits of the Queen and the 
author, is among the Royal MSS. in the British 
Museum. Fleming tells us that he had " newly 
recognised " (whatever may be meant by the words) 
this tale in Latin and English, but he does not say 
a syllable whence he procured it. Gascoigne died 
two years before the date of the publication of 
this Paradoxe, Sfc. so that Fleming was quite sure 
the property could never be challenged by the 
true owner of it. 

Before I conclude, allow me to mention two 
other pieces by A. Fleming (who became rector of 
St. Pant-ras, Soper-lane, in 1593), regarding which 
I am anxious to obtain information, and seek it 
through the medium of " NOTES AND QUERIES." 

A marginal note in Fleming's Translation of 
Virgil's Georgics, 1589, 4to., is the following: 
" The poet alludeth to the historic of Leander and 

Hero, written by Museus, and Englished by me a 
dozen yeares ago, and in print." My question is, 
whether such a production is in existence ? 

Fleming's tract* printed in 1580 in 8vo. (mis- 
called 16rao.), " A Memorial, &c. of Mr. William 
Lambe, Esquier," is well known ; but many years 
ago I saw, and copied the heading of a broadside, 
which ran thus: "An Epitaph, or funerall in- 
scription vpon the god lie life and death of the 
Rightworshipfull Maister William Lambe Esquire, 
Founder of the new Conduit in Holborne, &c. 
"Deceased the 21st April Anno. 1580. Deuised 
by Abraham Fleming." At the bottom was 
"Imprinted at London by Ilenrie Denham for 
Thomas Turner," &c. 

In whose hands, or in what library, I saw this 
production, has entirely escaped my memory ; and 
I am now very anxious to learn what has become 
of that copy, or whether any other copy of it has 
been preserved. J. PAYNE COLLIER. 

Kensington, Dec. 3. 1849. 


The following warrant for the allowance of the 
" diet " of a lady of the bedchamber, will be found 
to be a good and curious illustration of the Note 
of ANTIQUARIUS upon the domestic establishment 
of Queen Elizabeth, although more than half a 
century earlier than the period referred to, as it 
relates to the time of Elizabeth's majestic sire : 

"HENRY R. By the King. 
" We wol and commaunde you to allowe dailly 
from hensforth unto our right dere and welbilovede 
the Lady Lncy into hir chambre the dyat and fare 
herafter ensuying; Furst every mornyng at brekcfast 
oon chyne of beyf at our kechyn, oon chete loff and 
oon maunchet at our panatry barre, and a Galon of 
Ale at our Buttrye barre ; Item at dyner a pese of 
beyfe, a stroke of roste, and a rewarde at our said 
kechyn, a cast of chete bred at our Panatrye barre, 
and a Galon of Ale at our Buttry barre; Item at 
afternone a manchet at our Panatry bar and half a 
Galon of Ale at our Buttrye barre; Item at supper a 
messe of Porage, a pese of mutton and a Rewarde at 
our said kechyn, a cast of chete brede at our Panatrye, 
and a Galon of Ale at our Buttrye ; Item at after 
supper a chete loff ami a maunchet at our Panatry 
barre, a Galon of Ale at our Buttrye barre, and half 
a Galon of Wyne at our Seller barre ; Item every 
mornyng at our Wood yarde foure tall shyds and twoo 
ffagottes ; Item at our Chaundrye barre in winter 
every night oon pryket and foure syses of Waxe with 
eight candelles white lights and oon torche ; Item at 
our Picherhouse wekely LIX white cnppes ; Item at 
every tyme of our remoeving oon hoole carre for the 
cariage of her stud'. And these our lettres shal be 
your sufficient Warrant and discharge in this behalf at 
all tymcs herafter. Yeven under our Signet at our 
Manour of Esthampstede the xvj th . day of July the 
xiiij th . yerc of our Ileigne. 



[No. 6. 

" To the Lord Steward of our Household, 
the Treasurer, Comptroller, Cofferer, 
Clerke of our Grene Clothe, Clerke of 
our kechyn, and to all other our hed 
Officers of our seid Houshold and to 
every of they m." 

As to Sir Christopher Hatton, I would refer 
ANTIQUARIUS, and all others whom it may con- 
cern, to Sir Harris Nicolas's ably written Memoirs 
of the "Dancing Chancellor" published in 1846. 
Hatton had ample means for the building of 
Holdenby, as he was appointed one of the Gentle- 
men Pensioners in 1564, and between that time 
and his appointment as Vice- Chamberlain in 1577 
(five years prior to the period referred to by 
ANTIQUARIUS), he received numerous other gifts 
and offices. JOSEPH BURTT. 


Printers' Couplets. 

It may not perhaps be generally known that the 
early printers were accustomed to place devices or 
verses along with their names at the end of the 
books which they gave to the public. Vigneul- 
Marville,in his Melanges dHistoire et de Litter ature, 
relates that he found the two following lines at the 
end of the " Decrees of Basle and Bourges," pub- 
lished under the title of " Pragmatic Sanction," 
with a Commentary by Come Guymier, Andre 
Brocard's Paris edition, 1507 : 

" Stet liber hie, donee fluctus formica marines 
Ebibat et totum testudo perambulet orbem." 

The printers, it would appear, not only intro- 
duced their own names into these verses, but also 
the names of the correctors of the press, as may 
be seen in the work entitled, Commentaries Andreee 
de Ysernia super constitutionibus Sicilies, printed 
by Sixtus Ruffingerus at Naples in 1472 : 

" Sixtus hoc impressit: sed bis tamen ante revisit 

Egregius doctor Petrus Oliverius. 
At tu quisque emis, lector studiose, libellum 
Lzetus emas; mendis nam caret istud opus." 

G. J. K. 

Charles Martel 

Mr. Editor, Perhaps the subjoined note, ex- 
tracted from M. Collin de Plancy's BiUiotheque 
des Legendes, may not be without its value, a.<= 
tending to correct an error into which, according 
to his account, modern historians have fallen re- 
specting the origin of the surname " Martel," borne 
by the celebrated Charles Martel, son of Peppin 
of Herstal, Duke of Austrasia, by his Duchess 

* This same Alpheide, or Alpaide, as she was fre- 
quently called, though but scurvily treated by pos- 
terior historians, is honoured by contemporary chroni- 

" It is surprising," he says, " that almost all our 
modem historians, whose profound researches have 
been so highly vaunted, have repeated the little tale of 
the Chronicle of St. Denis, which affirms that the sur- 
name of Martel was conferred on Charles for having 
hammered (martele) the Saracens. Certain writers of 
the present day style him, in this sense, Karle-lc-Marteau. 
The word martel, in the ancient Frank language, never 
bore such a signification, but was, on the contrary, 
merely an abbreviation of Martellus, Martin."* 

From a legend on this subject given by M. de 
Plancy, it would appear that Charles received the 
second name, Martel, in honour of his patron saint 
St. Martin. 

Not having at present an opportunity of con- 
sulting the works of our own modern writers on 
early French history, I am ignorant if they also 
have adopted the version given in the Chronicle of 
St. Denis. Mr. Ince, in his little work, Outlines 
of French History, states, that "he received the 
surname of Martel, or the Hammerer, from the 
force with which he hammered down the Saracens 
martel being the name of a weapon which the 
ancient Franks used, much resembling a hammer, 
and from his strokes falling numberless and effec- 
tual on the heads of his enemies." Query. 
Which of the two is the more probable version ? 
Perhaps some one of your numerous correspond- 
ents may be enabled to throw additional light on 
this disputed point. G. J. K. 


Referring to BOOKWORM'S note at p. 29, I beg 
to observe that the dedication negativing Boden- 
ham's authorship of Politeuphuia is not peculiar to 
the edition of 1597. I have the edition of 1650, 
" printed by Ja. Flesher, and are to be sold by 
Richard Royston, at the Angell in Ivye Lane," in 
which the dedication is addressed as follows : 
" To his very good friend Mr. Bodenham, N". L. 
wisheth increase of happinesse." The first sen- 
tence of this dedication seems to admit that Bo- 
denham was something more than patron of the 
work: "What you seriously begun long since, 
and have always been very careful for the full 
perfection of, at length thus finished, although 
perhaps not so well to your expectation, I present 
you with ; as one before all most worthy of the 
same : both in respect of your earnest travaile 
therein, and the great desire you have continually 
had for the generall profit." 

In Brydges' Censura Literaria, Bodenham is 
spoken of as the compiler of The Garden of the 
Muses, and editor of the Wits Commonwealth, the 

clers as the second wife of Peppin, uxor altera. See 

* Legendes de V Histolre de France, par J. Collin dc 
Plancy, p. 149. (notes.) Paris. Mellier Freres. 

DEC. 8. 1849.] 



Wifs Theatre of the Little World, and England 9 , 
Helicon. He seems to have less claim to be con 
sidered the author of the Wifs Theatre than of th< 
Wifs Commonwealth, for in the original edition o 
the former, " printed by J. R. for N. L., and ar< 
to be sold at the VVest doorc of Paules, 1599," the 
dedication is likewise addressed " To my mos 
esteemed and approved loving friend, Maister 
J. B. I wish all happines." After acknowledging 
his obligations to his patron, the author proceeds 
" Besides this History or Theatre of the Little 
World, suo jure, first challengeth your friendly 
patronage, by whose motion I vndcrtooke it, ant 
for whose love I am willing to vndergoe the 
heavy burden of censure. I must confesse that il 
might have been written with more maturitie, and 
deliberation, but in respect of my promise, I have 
made this hast, how happy I know not, yet good 
enough I hope, if you vouchsafe your kind appro- 
bation : which with your Judgement I hold omi- 
nous, and as vndcr which Foliteuphuia was so 
gracious." I. F. M. 


Sir, I beg to acknowledge the notice which 
two of your correspondents have taken of my 
query on this subject. At the same time I must 
say that the explanations which they offer appear 
to me to be quite unsatisfactory. I shall be happy 
to give my reasons for this, if you think it worth 
while ; but perhaps, if we wait a little, some other 
solution may be suggested. 

For the sake of the inhabitants, I hope that 
your work is read at Colchester. Is there nobody 
there who could inform us at what time the 
London coach started a century ago? It seems 
clear that it arrived in the afternoon but I will 
not at present trespass further on your columns. 
I am, &c., G. G. 


Ancient Inscribed Alms Dish. 
L. S. B. informs us that in the church of St. Paul, 
Norwich, is a brass dish, which has been gilt, and 
has this legend round it four times over : " HER : 


This seems to be another example of the inscrip- 
tion which was satisfactorily explained in No. 5. 
p. 73. 

The Bishop that burneth. 

I do not think Major Moor is correct in his 
application of Tusser's words, " the bishop that 
burneth," to the lady-bird. Whether lady-birds 
are unwelcome guests in a dairy I know not, but 
certainly I never heard of their being accustomed 
to haunt such places. The true interpretation of 

* Blomefield's Norfolk. Folio. 1739. Vol. ii. p. 803. 

Tusser's words must, I think, be obtained by com- 
parison with the following lines from his Five 
Hundred Points of Good Husbandry, quoted in 
Ellis's Brand, iii. 207. : 

" Blesse Cisley (good mistress) that bishop doth ban 
For burning the milk of her cheese to the pan." 

The reference here, as well as in the words 
quoted by Major Moor, is evidently to the pro- 
verb relating to burnt milk, broth, &c. " the 
bishop has put his foot in it;" which is considered 
by Ellis to have had its origin in those times 
when bishops were much in the habit of burning 
heretics. He confirms this interpretation by the 
following curious passage from Tyudale's Obcdyence 
of a Crysten Man: 

"If the podech be burned to, or the meate ouer 
rested, we save the Byshope hath put bis fote in the 
potte, or the Byshope hath playd the coke, because 
the Bishopes burn who they lust, and whosoeuer dis- 
pleaseth them." 

I fear the origin of the appellation " Bishop 
Barnaby," applied to the lady- bird in Suffolk, has 
yet to be sought. D. S. 

Iron Manufactures of Sussex. 

Sir, I have made two extracts from a once 
popular, but now forgotten work, illustrative of 
the iron manufacture which, within the last hun- 
dred years, had its main seat in this county, 
which I think may be interesting to many of your 
readers who may have seen the review of 'Mr. 
Lower's Essay on the Ironworks of Sussex in the 
recent numbers of the Athenceum and Gentleman's 
Magazine. The anecdote at the close is curious, 
as confirming the statements of Macaulay ; the 
roads in Sussex in the 18th century being much 
in the condition of the roads in England generally 
in the 17th. " Sowsexe," according to the old 
proverb, has always been " full of dirt and mier." 
" From hence (Eastbourne) it was that, turning 
north, and traversing the deep, dirty, but rich part of 
these two counties (Kent and Sussex), I had the 
curiosity to see the great foundries, or ironworks, 
which are in this county (Sussex), and where they are 
carried on at such a prodigious expense of wood, that, 
even in a county almost all overrun with timber, they 
jegin to complain of their consuming it for those fur- 
naces and leaving the next age to want timber for 
milding tlu'ir navies. I must own, however, that I 
bund that complaint perfectly groundless, the three 
counties of Kent, Sussex, and Hampshire (all which lye 
contiguous to one another), being one inexhaustible 
storehouse of timber, never to be destroyed but by a 
general conflagration, and able, at this time, to supply 
imber to rebuild all the royal navies in Europe, if they 
vere all to he destroyed, and set about the huilding 
hem together. 

" I left Tunbriclge . . . and came to Lcivcs, through 
he deepest, dirtiest, but many ways the richest and 
most profitable country in all that part of England. 



[No. 6. 

" The timber I saw here was prodigious, as well i 
quantity as in bigness, and seeni'd in some places to b 
suffered to grow only because it was so far off of an 
navigation, that it was not worth cutting down an 
carrying away; in dry summers, indeed, a great deal i 
carried away to Maidstone and other parts on thi 
IVIedway; and sometimes I have seen one tree on ; 
I carriage, which they call here a tug, drawn by two-and 
twenty oxen, and even then this carried so little a way 
and then thrown down and left for other tugs to taki 
up and carry on, that sometimes it is two or three year 
before it gets to Chatham ; for if once the rains come 
in it stirs no more that year, and sometimes a whole 
summer is not dry enough to make the roads passable 
Here I had a sight which, indeed, I never saw in any 
other part of England, namely, that going to church at 
a country village, not far from Lewes, I saw an ancient 
lady, and a lady of very good quality, I assure you, 
drawn to church in her coach with six oxen ; nor was 
it done in frolic or humour, but mere necessity, the 
way being so stiff and deep that no horses could go in 
it." A Tour through Great Britain, by a Gentleman. 
London, 1724. Vol. i. p. 54. Letter II. 


" He was so farre the dominus fac totum in this 
juncto that his words were laws, all things being 
acted according to his desire." p. 76. of Foulis' 
Hist, of Plots of our Pretended Saints. 2nd edit 

1674. R M ; 

Birthplace of Andrew Borde. 

Hearne says, in Wood's Athena:, "that the 
Doctor was not born at Pevensey or Pensey, but 
at Boonds-hill in Holmsdajle, in Sussex." ' 

Should we not read " Borde-hill ? " That place 
belonged to the family of Borde for many gene- 
rations. It is in Cuckfield parish. The house 
may be seen from the Ouse-Valley Viaduct. 

J. F. M. 

Order of Minerva. 

^ " We are informed that his Majesty is about to 
institute a new order of knighthood, called The 
Order of Minerva, for the encouragement of lite- 
rature, the fine arts, and learned professions The 
new order is to consist of twenty-four knights and 
the Sovereign ; and is to be next in dignity to the 
military Order of the Bath. The kniohts are to 
wear a silver star with nine points, and a straw- 
coloured riband from the right shoulder to the 

eft. A figure of Minerva is to be embroidered 
in the centre of the star, with this motto, ' Omnia 
posthabita ScientMB.' Many men eminent in lite- 
rature, m the fine arts, and in physic, and law, are 
already thought of to fill the Order, which/it is 
said, will be instituted before the meetin^ o f par- 
liament. Penh Magazine, July, 1772. SCOTUS. 
Flaws of Wind. 

/The parish church of Dun-Nechtan, now Dun- 
nichen, was dedicated to St. Causlan, whose festi- 
val was held m March. Snow showers in March 
are locally called St. Causlan's flaws " SCOTLS 


Sir, Circumstances imperatively oblige me to 
do that from which I should willingly be excused 
reply to the observations of J. I., inserted in 
page 75. of the last Saturday's Number of the 

The subject of these are three questions pro- 
posed by me in your first number to the following 
effect : 1. Whether any thing was known, espe- 
cially from the writings of Erasmus, of a bookseller 
and publisher of the Low Countries named Dome, 
who lived at the beginning of the sixteenth cen- 
tury ? Or, 2ndly, of a little work of early date 
called Henno Rusticus ? Or, 3rdly, of another, 
called Of the Sige (Signe) of the End? 

To these no answer has yet been given, although 
the promised researches of a gentleman of this 
University, to whom literary inquirers in Oxford 
have ever reason to be grateful, would seem to 
promise one soon, if it can be made. But, in the 
mean time, the knot is cut in a simpler way : 
neither Dome, nor Henno Rusticus, his book, it is 
said, ever existed. Permit me one word of expos- 
tulation upon this. 

It is perfectly true that the writing of the MS. 
which has given rise to these queries and remarks 
is small, full of contractions, and sometimes diffi- 
cult to be read ; but the contractions are tolerably 
uniform and consistent, which, to those who have 
o do with such matters, is proved to be no incon- 
iderable encouragement and assistance. A more 
lerious difficulty arises from the circumstance, 
hat the bookseller used more thnn one language, 
ind none always correctly. Still it may be pre- 
iumed he was not so ignorant as to make a blun- 
der in spelling his own name. And the first words 
f the manuscript are these : " -f- In nomine domi- 
\\ mnen ego Johannes dome," &c. &c. (In noie 
domi ame ego Johanes dome, &c.) From the 
nspection of a close copy now lying before me, in 
which all the abbreviations are retained, and from 
ny own clear recollection, I am enabled to state 
hat, to my full belief, the name of "dome" is 
vritten by the man himself in letters at length, 
vithout any contraction whatever; and that "the 
Itered form of it, " Domr," as applied to that par- 
icular person, exists nowhere whatever, except in 
)age 75. of No. 5. of the " NOTES AND QUERIES." 
The words " henno rusticus" (heno rusticus) 
re found twice, and are tolerably clearly written 
n both cases. Of the "rusticus" nothing need be 
aid ; but the first n in " henno" is expressed by a 
ontraction, which in the MS. very commonly 
.enotes that letter, and sometimes the final 
i. How frequently it represents n may be 
udged from the fact that in the few words 
Iready quoted, the final n in " amen," and the 
rst m "Johannes," are supplied by it. So that 

DEC. 8. 1849.] 



we have to choose between "henno" and "hemno" 
rusticus (rather a clown than a gentleman, what- 
ever was his name ; and perhaps the treatise, if 
ever found, will prove to treat merely on rural 
affairs). And although it may turn out to be per- 
fectly true that "homo rusticus" was the thing 
meant, as your correspondent suggests, still that 
is not the question at issue ; but rather, amidst 
the confusion of tongues and ideas which seems to 
have possessed poor Dome's brain, what he actu- 
ally wrote, rather than what he should have 

Admitting, however, for supposition's sake, that 
your correspondent is right, that the man was 
named Dormer, and the book Homo rusticus is 
there any one who will obligingly favour me with 
information respecting these, or either of them ? 

One word more, and I have done ; though per- 
haps you will think that too much has been said 
already upon a subject not of general interest; 
and indeed I cannot but feel this, as well as how 
painful it is to differ, even in opinion, with one 
towards whom nothing can be due from me but 
respect and affection. But the direct inference 
from your correspondent's remarks (although it 
is fully my persuasion he neither designed nor 
observed it) is, that my difficulties are no diffi- 
culties at all, but mistakes. To these we are all 
liable, and none more so than the individual who 
is now addressing you, though, it is to be hoped, 
not quite in the awful proportion which has been 
imputed to him. And let it stand as my apology 
for what has been said, that I owe it no less to my 
own credit, than perhaps to that of others, my 
kind encouragers and abettors in these inquiries, 
to vindicate myself from the charge of one general 
and overwhelming error, that of having any thing 
to do with the editing of a MS. of which my 
actual knowledge should be so small, that out of 
three difficulties propounded from its contents, 
two should be capable of being shown to have 
arisen from nothing else but my inability to read 
it. I remain, Sir, your obedient servant, W. 

Trin. Coll. Oxon. Dec. 5. 1849. 

[We have inserted the foregoing letter in compli- 
ance with the writer's wishes, but under a protest : 
because no one can entertain a doubt as to his ability 
to edit in a most satisfactory manner the work he has 
undertaken ; and because also we can bear testimony 
to the labour and conscientious painstaking which he 
is employing to clear up the various obscure points in 
that very curious document. The following commu- 
nication from a valued correspondent, in answering 
W.'s Query .as to Henno Rusticus, confirms the accu- 
racy of his reading.] 


The query of your correspondent W. at p. 12. 
No. 1. regards, I presume, Henno Comcdiola Rui- 
tico Ludicra, nunc iterum publicata ; Magdeburg, 

1614, 8vo. ? If so, he will find it to be identical 
with the Scanica Progymnasmata h. e. Ludicra 
Prceexercitamenta of Rcuchlin, first printed at 
Strasburg in 1497, and frequently reprinted during 
the first part of the 16th century, often with a 
commentary by Jacob Spiegel. 

A copy, which was successively the property of 
Mr. Bindley and Mr. Heber, is now before me. 
It was printed at Tubingen by Thomas Anselm in 
1511. I have another copy by the same printer, 
in 1519; both in small 4to. 

Reuehlin, while at Heidelberg, had amused him- 
self by writing a satirical drama, entitled Sergius 
seu Capitis Caput, in ridicule of his absurd and 
ignorant monkish opponent. This he purposed to 
have had represented by some students for the 
amusement of his friends ; but Dalberg, for pru- 
dent reasons, dissuaded its performance. It being 
known, however, that a dramatic exhibition was 
intended, not to disappoint those who were anx- 
iously expecting it, Reuchlin hastily availed him- 
self of the very amusing old farce of Maistre 
Pierre Patelin, and produced his Sccenica Progym- 
nasmata, in which the Rustic Henno is the prin- 
cipal character. It varies much, however, from 
its prototype, is very laughable, and severely sati- 
rical upon the defects of the law and the dishonesty 
of advocates. 

Its popularity is evinced by the numerous edi- 
tions ; and, as the commentary was intended for 
the instruction of youth in the niceties of the 
Latin language, it was used as a school-book ; the 
copies shared the fate of such books, and hence 
its rarity. It is perhaps the earliest comic drama 
of the German stage, having been performed before 
Dalberg, Bishop of Worms (at Heidelberg in 
1497), to whom it is also inscribed by Reuchlin. 
It seems to have given the good bishop great 
pleasure, and he requited each of the performers 
with a gold ring and some gold coin. Their names 
are recorded at the end of the drama. 

Melchior Adam gives the following account : 

" Ibi Comoediam scripsit, Capitis Ctymf plenam nigri 
salis & acerbitatis adversus Monachum, qui ejus vita; 
insidiatus erat. Ibi & alteram Comcediam edidit/hfru- 
lam Gullicam, plenam candidi salis ; in qua fortnsia 
sophismata prrccipue taxat. Hanc narrabat hac occa- 
sione scriptam & actam esse. Cum alteram de Mo- 
nacho scripsisset, fama sparsa est de agenda Comoedia, 
quod illo tempore inusitatum erat. Dalburgius lecta, 
illius Monachi inscctatione, dissuasit editionem & acti- 
onetn, quod codem tempore & apud Philipum Palati- 
num Franciscanus erat Capellus, propter potentiam & 
malas artes invisus nobilibus & sapientibus viris in 
aula. Intellcxit periculum Capnio & hanc Comoediam 
occultavit. Interea tamen, quia flagitabatur actio, 
alteram dulccm fabellam edit, & repraesentari ab in- 
geniosis adolescentibus, quorum ibi extant nomina, 

Mr. Hallara (Literal, of Europe, vol. i. p. 292., 



[No. 6. 

1st ed.), misled bj War ton and others, gives a 
very defective and erroneous account of the Pro- 
gymnasmata Scanica, which he supposed to contain 
several dramas ; but he concludes by saying, " the 
book is very scarce, and I have never seen it." 
Gottsched, in his History of the German Drama, 
merely says he had seen some notice of a Latin 
drama by Reuchlin. Hans Sachs translated it into 
German, after his manner, and printed it in 1531 
under the title of Ilenno. S. W. S. 

Micklcham, Dec. 1. 1849. 


Sir, In reference to the Query of BURLENSIS 
in No. 4. of your periodical, as to the parentage 
of Myles Blomefylde, of Bury St. Edmund's, I beg 
to contribute the following information. In the 
library of St. John's College, Cambridge, is a 
volume containing an unique copy of " the boke 
called the Informacyon for pylgrymes vnto the 
holy lande," printed by Wynkyn de Worde, in 
1524, at the end of which occurs the following 
manuscript note : 

" I, Myles Blomefylde, of Eurye Saynct Edmunde 
in Siiflfolke, was borne y yeare followyng after y e 
pryntyng of this boke (that is to saye) in the yeare of 
our Lorde 1525, the 5 day of Apryll, betwene 10 & 11, 
in y e nyght, nyghest xi. my father's name John, and 
my mother's name Anne." 

This tract is bound up with two others, on both 
of which Blomefylde has written his initials, and 
from one entry seems to have been at Venice in 
1568. He was undoubtedly an ardent book-col- 
lector, and I possess copies of the Ortus Vocabulo- 
rum, printed by W. de Worde, in 1518, and the 
Promptuarium Parvulorum, printed by the same, 
in 1516, bound together, on both of which the name 
of Myles Blomefylde is inscribed. 

I may add, ns a slight contribution to a future 
edition of the Typographical Antiquities, that among 
Bagford's curious collection of title-pages in the 
Harleian Collection of MSS. (which I doubt if 
Dr. Dibdin ever consulted with care), there is the 
last leaf of an edition of the Ortus Vocabulorum, 
unnoticed by bibliographers, with the following 
colophon : 

" Impr. London, per Wynandum de Worde, com- 
tnorantem in vico nuncupato Fletestrete, sub in- 

aU - rei ' Ann incarn atiois Dominice 

. die vero prima mesis Decebris " 

Hurl MSS. 5919. art. 36. ' 


The Curse of Scotland Why the Nine of Diamonds 

is so called. 

When I was a child (ROW about half a century 
ago) my father used to explain the origin of the 

nine of diamonds being called " The curse of Scot- 
land" thus : That it was the " cross of Scotland," 
which, in the Scotch pronunciation, had become 
" curse." 

St. Andrew is the patron saint of Scotland ; he 
suffered on a cross, not of the usual form, but like 
the letter X, which has since been commonly 
called a St. Andrew's cross. It was supposed that 
the similarity of the nine of diamonds to this form 
occasioned its being so called. The arms of the 
Earl of Stair, alluded to in your publication, are 
exactly in the form of this cross. If this expla- 
nation should be useful, you are most welcome 
to it. A.F. 

Thistle of Scotland. 

Sir, Your correspondent R. L. (No. 2. p. 24.), 
will find the fullest information on this head in 
Sir Harris Nicolas's work on the Orders of 
Knighthood of the British Empire. He does not 
assign to its origin an earlier date than the reign 
of James III., in an inventory of whose jewels, 
Thistles are mentioned as part of the ornaments. 
The motto " Nemo me impune lacessit," does not 
appear until James VI. adopted it on his coinage 

G. HJB. 

For Scottish Thistle, see Nisbet's Heraldry, vol. 
ii. Order of St. Andrew. Selden, Tiiles of Ho- 
nour, p. 704. ed. 1672, refers to "Menenius, Mi- 

ra3us, Favin, and such more." 


Record Publications. 

Will any of your readers kindly favour me with 
a reference to any easily-accessible list of the pub- 
lications of the llecord Commission, as well as to 
some t account of the more valuable Rolls still 
remaining unpublished, specifying where they 
exist, and how access is to be obtained to them ? 

With every wish for the success of your under- 
taking, Yours, &c. D. S. 

[The late Sir H.. Nicolas compiled an account of the 
publications of the Record Commission, which was 
published in his Notitia Historica, and also in an Svo. 
vol., and is easily obtainable. There is also a series of 
articles in the Gentleman's Magazine for 1834, which 

contains a good deal of information upon the subject, 

with a classified list of the p ~ 

cipal unpublished records are in the Tower and the 

Rolls' Chapel ; any record may be inspected or copied 
at those places, or in any other Record Office, upon 
payment of a fee of one shilling.] 

Katherine Pegg. 

ni Sl 1' ~P atherine p egge, one of the mistresses of 
Charles II., was the daughter of Thomas Pegge, of 
leldersley, near Ashborne in Derbyshire, Esq., 
where the family had been settled for several 
generations, and where Mr. William Pe^ge, the 
vEL elder branch > di ed without issue in 

17b8. Another branch of this family was of 
Usmaston, m the same neighbourhood, and of this 

DEC. 8. 1849.] 



was Dr. Samuel Pcgge, the learned antiquary. 
They bore for arms : Argent, a chevron between 
three piles, sable. Crest: A demi-sun issuing 
from a wreath or, the rays alternately argent and 

It was during his exile that the King first met 
with the fair Katherine, and in 1657 had a son by 
her, whom he called Charles Fitz-Charles, not 
Fitz-roy, as Granger says. Fitz-Charlcs had a 
grant of the royal arms with a baton sinistre, 
vaire; and in 1675 his Majesty created him Earl 
of Plymouth, Viscount Totness, and Baron Dart- 
mouth. He was bred to the sea, and having been 
educated abroad, most probably in Spain, was 
known by the name of Don Carlos. In 1678 the 
Earl married the Lady Bridget Osborne, third 
daughter of Thomas Earl of Danby, and died of a 
flux at the siege of Tangier in 1680, without issue. 

Katherine Pegge, the Earl's mother, after her 
liaison with the King, married Sir Edward Greene, 
Bart., of Samford in Essex, and died without 

issue by him in . From this marriage the 

King is sometimes said to have had a mistress 
named Greene. 

There was long preserved in the family a half- 
length portrait of the Earl, in a robe de chambre, 
laced cravat, and flowing hair (with a ship in the 
back-ground of the picture), by Sir Peter Lely ; 
and also two of his mother, Lady Greene : one a 
half length, with her infant son standing by her 
side, the other a three-quarters, both by Sir 
Peter Lely, or by one of his pupils. 

Both mother and son are said to have been 
eminently beautiful. G. M. 

East Winch, Nov. 30. 

N., who refers our Querist for particulars of 
this lady to the " Memoirs of the Rev. Dr. Samuel 
Pegge and his Family," in Nichols' Literary Anec- 
dotes of the Eighteenth Century, vol. vi. pp.224, 225, 
adds " As the lady had no issue by Sir Edward 
Greene, it perhaps does not matter what his family 

" I see he was created a baronet 26th July, 1660, 
and died s. p. Dec. 1676; and that Courthope, in 
his Extinct Baronetage, calls his lady * dau. of 

Pegg,' not being aware of her importance as 

the mother of the Earl of Plymouth. This may 
be worth remarking." 

The Rev. T. Leman. 

Sir, Your correspondent A. T. will find the 
information he requires respecting the Reverend 
Thomas Leman, of Bath, in the Gentleman 1 s Maga- 
zine for Oct. 1826, p. 373. ; for Aug. 1828, p. 183. ; 
and for Feb. 1829. lie may also consult Britton's 
M< moirs of the Life, Writings, and Character of 
Ifi-nry Hatcher. G. M. 

A Memoir of the Rev. Thomas Leman will be 
found in Nichols's Illustrations of Literature, vol. vi. 

p. 435, et scq., comprising an enumeration of his 
writings in various county histories and other 
works of that character, and followed by eighteen 
letters addressed to Mr. Nicholls, J. N. Brewer, 
Esq., and the Rev. Dr. Samuel Parr. N. 

Bumct Prize at Aberdeen. 

Sir, I sent a query to the Athenceum, who, 
by a note, referred it to you. 

My object is to ascertain who gained the last 
Theological Premium (forty years since, or nearly) 
at Aberdeen. You no doubt know the subject : 
it is for the best Treatise on " the Evidence that 
there is a Being all powerful, wise, and good, by 
whom every thing exists ; and particularly to ob- 
viate difficulties regarding the wisdom and good- 
ness of the Deity ; and this, in the first place from 
considerations independent of Written Revelation, 
and, in the second place, from the Revelation of 
the Lord Jesus ; and, from the whole, to point out 
the inferences most necessary for and useful to 

I wish to know who gained the first prize, and 
who the second premium. H. ANDREWS. 

Manchester, Nov. 27. 1849. 

[We are happy to be able to answer our correspond- 
ent's query at once. The first Burnet prize, on the 
last occasion, was gained by the Reverend William 
Lawrence Brown, D. D., and Principal, if we recollect 
rightly, of Maresclial College, Aberdeen. His prize 
work, entitled Essay on the Existence of a Supreme 
Being possessed of infinite Power, Wisdom, and Good- 
ness, was published at Aberdeen, in 2 vols. 8vo. 1816. 
The second prize man was the present amiable and 
distinguished Archbishop of Canterbury. His work, 
entitled A Treatise on the Records of Creation, was 
published in London, in 2 vols. 8vo. 1816.] 

Incumbents of Church Licings. 
Sir, In answer to the Query of your corre- 
spondent L., I beg to inform him that he may find 
the name, if not the birth-place, of incumbents and 
patrons of Church Livings in the county of Nor- 
folk, long prior to 1680, in the Institution Books 
at Norwich, consisting of numerous well preserved 
folio volumes. Blomefield and Parkin, the histo- 
rians of the county, have made ample use of these 
inestimable books. G. M. 

History of Landed and Commercial Policy of 
England History of Edward II. 

In reply to the two queries of your corres- 

1. The Remarks upon the History of the Landed 
and Commercial Policy of England was written 
by the Rev. Joseph Hudson, Prebendary of Car- 
lisle, 1782, "a judicious and elegant writer, who 
could not be prevailed on to give his name with 
it to the public." See Nichols's Literary Anecdotes 
of the Eighteenth Century, vol. viii. p. 160, note. 



[No. 6. 

Mr. N. characterises it as " a valuable work, richl 
deserving to be better known." 

2. There are two Histories of King Edward II 
one in small folio, of which the title is accurate! 
given by your correspondent, and another in 8vo 
the title of which is given at the head of the re 
print in the Harleian Miscettany, vol. i. p. 69 
Both these editions bear the date of 1680. I hac 
always supposed that the edition in 8vo. was a 
mere reprint of the folio ; but on now comparing 
the text of the folio with that of the 8vo. as giver 
in the HarL Miscellany, I find the most essentia 
differences ; so much so, as hardly to be recog- 
nised as the same. Mr. Park, the last editor o 
the HarL Miscellany (who could only find the folio) 
appears to have been puzzled by these differences 
and explains them by the supposition that the 
diction had been much modified by Mr. Oldys 
(the original editor of the Miscettany), a suppo- 
sition which is entirely erroneous. The " Pub- 
lisher's Advertisement to the Reader," and the 
" Author's Preface to the Reader," signed "E. F.," 
and dated "Feb. 20. 1627," are both left out in 
the 8vo. ; and it will be seen that the anonymous 
authorship and date of composition in the title- 
page are suppressed, for which we have substi- 
tuted, " found among the papers of, and (supposed 
to be) writ by, the Right Honourable Henry 
Viscount Faulkland." 

Antony Wood, without absolutely questioning 
its authenticity, seems to have regarded it as a 
mere ephemeral production, as brought out at a 
time " when the press was open for all such books 
that could make any thing against the then go- 
vernment, with a preface to the reader patch'd 
up from very inconsiderable authors, by Sir Ja. 
H. as is supposed." Athen. Oxon. vol. ii. p. 565. 
There is not the slightest evidence to connect the 
authorship either of the folio or the 8vo. with 
Henry Viscount Falkland. 

Your correspondent A. T. (p. 59.) will find all 
the information he desires about the Rev. Thomas 
Leman, and the assistance he rendered to Mr. 
Hatcher in his edition of Richard of Cirencester, 
in Mr. Britton's Memoirs of the Life, Writings, 
and Character of Henry Hatcher, author of the 
History of Salisbury, &c., printed in 1847, to ac- 
company Mr. Britton's own Autobiography See 
pp. 7 and 8. &L.L. 

To eat Humble Pie. 

Mr. Editor, Your correspondent, Mr. HAM- 
MACK, having recorded Mr. Pepys's love of " brave 
venison pasty," whilst asking the derivation of the 
phrase, "eating humble pie," in reference to a bill 
of fare of Pepys's age, I venture to submit that 
the humble pie of that period was indeed the pie 
named in the list quoted ; and not only so, but 
that it was made out of the " umbles" or entrails 

the deer, a dish of the second table, inferior of 

course to the venison pasty which smoked upon 
the dais, and therefore not inexpressive of that 
humiliation which the term "eating humble pie" 
now painfully describes. The " umbles " of the 
deer are constantly the perquisites of the game- 
keeper. A. G. 
Ecclesfield, Nov. 2 1 . 1 849. 


Eva, Daughter of Dermot Mac Murrough. 

Mr. Editor, I should be glad if any of your 
readers, Irish or English, could inform me whether 
we have any other mention of Eva, daughter of 
Dermot Mac Murrough, last independent king of 
Leinster, than that she became, in the spring of the 
year 11 7-, the wife of Richard Strongbow^Eaii of 
Pembroke, at Waterford. 

Any fortunate possessor of O'Donovan's new 
translation of The Annals of the Four Masters, 
would much oblige me by referring to the dates 
1135 and 1169, and also to the period included 
between them, for any casual notice of the birth of 
this Eva, or mention of other slight incident with 
which she is connected, which may there exist. 


Malvern Wells, Nov. 20. 1849. 

John de Daundelyon. 

Sir, In the north chancel of St. John's Church, 
Margate, is a fine brass for John Daundelyon, 
1445, with a large dog at his feet; referring to 
which the Rev. John Lewis, in his History of the 
Isle of Tenet, 1723 (p. 98.), says : 

1 The two last bells were cast by the same founder, 
and the tenor the gift of one of the family of Daunde- 
yon, which has been extinct since 1 460. Concerning 
his bell the inhabitants repeat this traditionary rhyme: 
John de Daundelyon, with his great dog, 
Brought over this bell on a mill-cog." 
This legend is still given to visitors of this fine 
old church. Will some of your antiquarian cor- 
respondents throw some light on the obscurity ? 

Genealogy of European Sovereigns. 

Sir, Can you or any of your correspondents 
ell me of one or two of the best works on the 

Genealogy of European Sovereigns ? " I know 
LT e ;7~ Anderson ' s R y al Genealogies, London, 
732 folio But that is not of as late a date as I 
hould wish to see. Q X Z 

, Duke of Ashgrove. 

?\ 14 ;, f Doctor Simon Forman's Diary 
edited by Mr. Halliwell, 1849), mention is twice 
lade of Forman being engaged as Scolmaster to 
he Duke of Ashgrove' s Sonnes." Who was the 
erson thus alluded to ? P. C. S S. 

DEC. 8. 1849.] 



Sir William Godbold. 

Mr. Editor, In the Gentleman's Magazine for 
July, 1842, occurs this : 

" In the parish church of Mendham, Suffolk, is a 
mural monument bearing an inscription, of which the 
following is a transcript : 

" M. S. V. C ml Doctissimique D. Gulielmi God- 
bold Militis ex illustri et perantiqua Prosapia 
oriundi, Qui post Septennem Peregrinationem 
animi excolendi gratia per Italian), Graeciam, 
Palaestinam, Arabiam, Persian), in solo natal i in 
bonarum literarum studiis consenescens morte 
repentina obiit Londini mense Aprilis A. D. 
M DC xi lie, aitatis LXIX.' 

" One would presume that so great a traveller would 
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daughter and heir of Richard Freston, of Mendham 
(Norfolk), Esq., and relict of Sir Nicholas Bacon, of 
Gillingham, Bart., whom he survived, and died with- 
out issue in 1687. I should consider myself under an 
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To the writer of that letter the desideratum 
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inquiry. G. A. C. 

Ancient Motto. 

Many years since I read that some pope or 
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similar to it, to be engraven in the centre of his 
table : 

" Si quis amicum absentem rodere delectat ad hanc 
mensam accumbere indignus est." 

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Works of King Alfred. 

Sir, If any of your readers can inform me of 
MSS. of the Works of King Alfred the Great, 
besides those which are found in the large public 
collections of MSS., he will confer a favour not 
only on the Alfred Committee, who propose to 
publish a complete edition of King Alfred's Works, 
but also on their Secretary, who is your obedient 
servant, J. A. GILES. 

Bampton, Oxford, Nov. 23. 1849. 

" Bive" and " Chote " Lambs. 

I should be much obliged to any of your readers 
who would favour me with an explanation of the 
words "Bive" and "Chote." They were thus 
applied in an inventory taken in Kent. 

"27 Hen. VIII. Michael. 
"Bive lambes at xvi d . the pece. 
" Chote lambes at xii d . the pece.** 


Anecdote of the Civil Wars. 

Horace Wai pole alludes to an anecdote of a 
country gentleman, during the Civil Wars, falling 
in with one of the armies on the day of some 
battle (Edgehill or Naseby ?) as he was quietly 
going out with his hounds. Where did Walpole 
find this anecdote ? C. 

A Political Maxim when first used. 

Who first used the phrase " When bad men 
conspire, good men must combine " ? C. 

Richard of Cirencester. 

S. A. A. inquires whether the authenticity of 
Richard of Cirencester, the Monk of Westminster, 
has ever been satisfactorily proved. The prevailing 
opinion amongst some of the greatest antiquaries 
has been that the work was a forgery by Dr. Ber- 
tram, of Copenhagen, with a view of testing the 
antiquarian knowledge of the famous Dr. Stuke- 
ley ; of this opinion was the learned and acute 
Dr. Whittaker and Mr. Conybeare. It is also fur- 
ther worthy of mention that some years since, 
when the late Earl Spencer was in Copenhagen, he 
searched in vain for tne original manuscript, which 
no one there could tell him had ever existed, and 
very many doubt if it ever existed at all. 

Lord Ersltine's Brooms. 

When and where was it that a man was appre- 
hended for selling brooms without a hawker's 
licence, and defended himself by showing that 
they were the agricultural produce of Lord 
Erskine's property, and that he was Lord E.'s 
servant ? GRIFFIN. 

John Bett of the Chancery Bar. 

When did John Bell cease to practise in the 
Court of Chancery, and when did he give up 
practice altogether, and when was the conversation 
with Lord Eldon on that subject supposed to have 
taken place ? GRIFFIN. 


Mr. Editor, Stow, in his Survey of London, 
with reference to Billingsgate, states, from Geoffrey 
of Monmouth, "that it was built by Belin, n king 
of the Britons, whose ashes were enclosed in a 
vessel of brass, and set upon a high pinnacle of 



[No. 6. 

stone over the same Gate." . . . "That it was tl 
largest water Gate on the river of Thames." 
" That it is at this day a large water Gate" & 
Can you, Mr. Editor, or any of your respectec 
correspondents, refer me to any drawing or d 
j scription of the said Gate ? WILLIAM WILLIAM 
Rood Lane, Nov. 24. 1849. 

Family of Pointz of Greenham. 

Mr. Editor, Can any of your readers inform 
me if that branch of the ancient family of PoinL 
which was sealed at Greenham, in the parish o 
Ashbrittle, in Somersetshire, is extinct, and whe 
the male issue failed ? Some of them intermarriec 
with the Chichesters, Pynes, and other old Devon 
shire families. 

The Pointzes remained at Greenham after 1600 

L * * B 


Sir, In the Testa de Nevill appear the follow 
ing entries : 

P. 237. a. " Terra Willi de Montellis (read Mon 
cellis) in villa de Cutnpton pertinet ad marescaucian 
do mini Regis," &c. 

P. 269 a. " Will's de Munceus tenet Parvam An- 
gram (Little Ongar, in Essex) de Domino Rege de 
Mareschaude qua? fuit de Baronia Gilbert! de Tani." 

P. 235. b. " Waleramus de Munceus tenet Cumpton 
per serjantiam Marescauiice." 

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578 Dedekindus (Fred.) School of Slovenrie, or Cato 
turned Wrong Side Outward, in Verse, by 
R. F. Gent. 

very rare, original binding : sold at Perry's sale 
for 11 Us. . . 1605 

591 De Soto (Barahona) Primera Parte de la An- 

Hue morocco, rare . Granada, 1586 

%* No more than the first portion of this poem, which 
is in continuation of the Orlando of Ariosto, 
ever appeared. Cervantes notices it with greal 
praise in his Don Quixote. 
747 Jests and Jeeres, Pleasant Taunts, and Merry 

Tales (wants all before B 2), VERY RAKE. 
*** One of these Jests mentions Shakspeare by name. 

1211 MARIE of EGYPT, a sacred Poeme describing the 

Miraculous Life and Death of the Glorious 
Convert of, in verse 
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fine copy, with port, by Cecill . 1628 

** A POEM OF GREAT RARITY; the Bindley copy, 

afterwards Mr. Heber's, sold for 15. 
TRAGEDIES, FIRST EDITION, wanting the title 
and four leaves at the end, soiled . folio, 1623 
1451 Polimauteia, or the Means Lawfull and Un- 
lawful 1 to judge of the Commonwealth, rare 

4to. 1595 
Notice is made of Shakespeare (R 2), Spenser, 

Sir D. Lyndsay, Harvey, Nash, &c. 
LIUS) on the Marriage or Deaths of some 
Scottish Nobles, as the Marchioness of Hunt- 
ley, Edin. 1607 Countess of Argyle, ib. 
1607 Earl Keith, ib. 1609 Earl of Mon- 

trose, ib. 1609 Prince Henry, ib. 1612 

Fredericke Prince Palatine, ib. 1614 Earl 

of Lothian; with the author's Sylvarum liber. 

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by Lowndes; five of them are published anony- 
mously; but their similarity to those with an 
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NOTES: Marriage Contract of Mary Queen of Scots 
Bill of Fare of lf>26, by Rev. L. B. Larking 
Moneta Sanctae Helena;, by T. Hudson Turner - - 100 

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QUERIRS: Berkeley's Theory of Vision - - -107 

Dr. Johnson and Professor de Morgan ... -107 

Caraccioli's Life of Lord Clive - - - -108 

Suppressed Passages in Cartwright's Poems - - 108 

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[Among the curious documents which have been 
produced from time to time before the House of Lords 
in support of peerage claims, there have been few of 
greater historical interest than the one which we now 
reprint from the Fourth Part of the Evidence taken 
before the Committee of Privileges on the Claim of 
W. Constable Maxwell, Esquire, to the title of Lord 
Herries of Terregles. It is a copy of the Contract of 
Marriage between Queen Mary and the Earl of Both- 
well, which, although it is said to have been printed 
by Carmichael, in his Various Tracts relating to the 
Peerage of Scotland, extracted from the Public Jiwords, 
has not been referred to by Robertson, or other his- 
torians of Scotland, not even by the most recent of 
them, Mr. Tytler. 

.Mr. Tytler tells us that on the 12th of May, 1567, 
Both well was created Duke of Orkney, "the Queen 
with her own hands placing the coronet on his head," 
and that the marriage took place on the 15th of May, 
at four o'clock in the morning in the presence-chamber 
at Ilolyrood; and that on the following morning a 

paper, with this ominous verse, was fixed on the palace 
gate : 

" Mense malas Maio nubere vulgus ait." 

The Contract, which is dated on the fourteenth of 
May, is preserved in the Register of Deeds in the 
Court of Session (Vol. IX. p. 86. ), and as the copy 
produced before the House is authenticated and con- 
sequently it may be presumed a more strictly accurate 
one than that which Carmichacl has given it seems 
well deserving of being transferred to our columns, and 
so made more available to the purposes of the historian, 
than it has been found to be in Carmichael's Tract, or 
is likely to be when buried in a Parliamentary Blue 

44 Decimo quarto Maij anno domini 1c. Ixvij. 
44 Sederunt dni sessionis clericus regri. 

44 In pns of ye lordis of counsale comperit per- 
sonale ane ry* excellent ry* heicht and michte 
princes Marie be ye grace of God queene of 
Scottis douieier of 1 ranee on that ane pairt and 
ane ry* noble and potent prince James duk of 
Orkney erl Bothule lord Hales crychtoun and 
Liddisdeall great admiral of ye realm of Scotland 
on y* vy r p* and gaif in yis contract and appoint- 
nament following subscriuit w* y r handis and de- 
syrit ye samen to be insert in ye bukis of counsale 
to half ye strenth force and effect of y 1 act and 
decreit thereupoun the q lk desyre ye saidis lordis 
thocht reasonable and y r for lies decernit and de- 
cernis ye said contract and appointnament to be 
insert and registret in ye said bukis to haif y^e 
strenth force and effect of y r act and decreit in 
tyme to cum et ad perpetuam rei memoriam and 
hes interponit and interponis y r autoritie y r to and 
ordenis y r autentik extract of the samen to be 
deliuerit to the foirsaid partiis and the principale 
u, "emane apud registrum Off ye q u contract ye 
tennor followis At Edinburgh ye xiiii. day of 
May the year of God I m v c thrie score sevin yeris 
it is appointit aggreit contractit and finale con- 
cordit betwix ye r* excellent ry* heich and mychte 
princess Marie be ye grace of God queen of Scot- 
tis douarrier of France on that ane pairt and ye 
ry* noble and potent prince James duke of Orkney 
erle Bothul lord Hales creychtoun and Liddisdeall 
great admiral of yis realm of Scotland on y* vy r 



[No. 7. 

pt in manner forme and effect as efter followis 
that is to say fforsainekle as her majestic consider- 
ing w* hirself how almycte God hes not onlie 
placit and constitut hir hienes to reigne over this 
realme and during hir liftyme to governe ye peple 
and inhabitantis y r of hir native subjects bot als 
that of hir royall persoun succession my* be pro- 
ducit to enioy and posses yis kingdome and do- 
minionis y r of quhen God sail call hir hienes to his 
mercie out of yis mortale life and how grecousle 
it hes plesit him alredy to respect hir hienes and 
yis hir realm in geving vnto hir maistie of her mest 
deir and onlie sone ye prince baith her heines self 
and hir heill subjects are detbond to render vnto 
God immortale prayss and thankis and now hir 
maistie being destitute of ane husband levand soli- 
terie in ye estate of wedoheid and yet young and 
of flurisshing aige apt and able to procreat and 
bring furth ma childreyn hes been pressit and 
humble requiritto yeild vnto sum mariege quhilk 
petitioun hir grece weying and teking in gud pairt 
bot cheifle regarding ye preservatioun and con- 
tinewance of hir posteritie hes condescendit y r to 
and mature deliberatioun being had towert 
psonage of him w* quhome hir heines sail joyne in 
marriage ye maist p* of hir nobilite be way of 
adviss hes humblie preyit hir maistie arid thocht 
bettir that she sculd sefar humble hirself as to 
accept ane of hir awin borne subiectis in y* state 
and place that war accustomet w 4 ye manneris 
lawis and consuetud of yis cuntre rether yan ony 
foreyne prince and hir maistie preferrand their 
aduyse and preyeris with ye welfeir of hir relm to 
the avansment and promotion qlk hir heines in 
pticuler mycht heve be foreyn marriage hes in 
that point likwis inclinit to ye suit of hir said 
nobilitie and yai nemand ye said noble prince 
now duke of Orkney for ye speciall personage 
hir maistie well aduisit hes allowit yair motioun 
and nominatioun and gratiouslie accedit y r vnto 
having recent memorie of the notable and wor- 
thie actis and gude service done and performit 
be him to hir ma t ie als weill sen hir return- 
ing and arivall in this realme as of befoir in 
hir hienes minoritie and dureing the tyme of 
governament of umq 11 hir dearest moder of gude 
memorie in the furth setting of her ma*ies authoritie 
agains all impugnaris and ganestanders y r of quhais 
magnanimitie couraige and constant trewth towert 
her ma t ie in preservation of hir awn person from 
mony evident and greit dangers and in conducting 
of heich and profitable purposes tending to her 
hienes avancement and establissing of this countre 
to hir profile and universall obedience hes sa fer 
movit her and procurit hir favour and affectioun 
that abuist the common and accustomat gude grace 
and benevolence quhilk princesses usis to bestow 
on noblemen thair subjectis weill deserving hir 
ma'ie wil be content to resaue and tak to hir 
husband the said noble prince for satisfaction of 

the hearts of hir nobilitie and people and to the 
effect that hir ma^e may be the mair able to 
govern and rewill this realme in tyme to cum 
dureing hir liftyme and that issue and succession 
at Goddis plesure may be producit of hir maist 
noble persoun quhilkis being sa dear and tender 
to hir said dearest son eftir hir ma'ies deceas may 
befoir all oyris serve ayd and comfort him 
Quhairfore the said excellent and michtie princesse 
and queene and the said noble and potent prince 
James duke ofOknay sail God willing solemnizat 
and compleit the band of metrimony aither of them 
with vther in face of haly kirk w* all gudly dili- 
gence and als hir ma*ie in respect of the same 
metrimony and of the succession at Goddis plesure 
to be procreat betwix thame and producit of hir 
body sail in her nixt parliament grant ane ratifi- 
catioun w* aviss of hir thrie estates quhilk hir 
ma'ie sail obtene of the infeftment maid be hir to 
the said noble prince then erll Boithuill and his 
airis maill to be gottin of his body quhilkis failze- 
ing to hir hienes and hir crown to returne off all 
& "haill the erlldome lanclis and ilis of Orknay and 
lordship of Zetland with the holmes skeireis 
quylandis outbreklds castells towrs fortalices man- 
ner places milns multures woddis cunninghares 
ffishingis as weill in ffresh watters as salt havynis 
portis raidis outsettis parts pendicles tennentis 
tennendries service of frie tennents advocatlon 
donation and richt of patronage of kirkis benefices 
& chaplanries of the samyn lyand w*in the sherif- 
dom of Orknay and flow dry of Zetland respective 
with the toll and customs within the saidis boundis 
togidder with the offices of sherifship of Orknay 
and ffowdry of Zetland and office of justiciarie 
w^n all the boundis als weill of Orknay as 
.Zetland with all priviledges lies liberties and 
dewities perteining and belanging y r to and all 
thair pertinentis erectit in ane haill and frie 
dukrie to be callit the dukrie of Orknay for evir 
and gif neid be sail mak him new infeftment thair- 
vpoun in competent and dew form quhilk hir 
ma t ie promittis in verbo principis and in caiss as 
God forbid thair beis na airis maill procreat betwix 
hir ma'ie and the said prince he obleiss his other 
airis maill to be gottin of his body to renunce the 
halding of blenchferme contenit in the said in- 
feftment takand alwyis and ressavand new infeft- 
ment of the saidis landis erlldome lordships ilis 
toll customs and offices abovewryten and all thair 
pertinentis erectit in an dukrie as said is quhilk 
name and titill it sail alwyis retene notwithstand- 
ing^ the alteratioun of the halding his saidis airis 
maill to be gottin of his body payand zeirlie thair- 
fore to our said soverane ladies successoris y r 
comptrollaris in y r name the soume of twa thou- 
sand pundis money of this realme lykas the samyn 
wes sett in the tyme of the kingis grace her gra- 
cious ffader of maist worthie memorie Mairowir 
the said noble and potent prince and duke obleiss 

DEC. 15. 1849.] 



him that he sail no wayis dispone nor putt away 
ony of his lands heretages possessiones and offices 
present nor quhilkis he sail happen to obtene and 
conquies heireftir dureing the manage fre the airis 
mail! to be gottin betwix him & her mMe bot yai 
to succeid to the same als weil as to the said 
dukrie of Orknay Furthermair it is concludit 
and accordit be hir ma'ie that all signateurs tres 
and wrytingis to be subscrivit be hir ma*ie in 
tyme to cum eftir the completing and solemniza- 
tion of the said manage other of giftis disposi- 
tiones graces privileges or vtheris sic thingis 
quhatsumevir sal be alsua subscrivit be the said 
noble prince and duke for his interesse in signe 
and taken of his consent and assent y r to as her 
ma'ies husband Likas it is alsua aggreit and ac- 
cordit be the said noble prince and duke that na 
signateurs ires nor writingis othir of giftis disposi- 
tions graces priviledges or others sic thingis con- 
cerning the affairs of the realme sail be subscrivit 
be him onlie and w'out hir maMes aviss and sub- 
scription and giff ony sic thing happin the samyn 
to be of nane avail! And for observing keiping 
and fullfilling of the premisses and every poynt 
and article y r of the said noble and michte princesse 
and the said noble prince and duke hes bundin 
and obleissit thame faithfullie to otheris and ar 
content and consentis that this present contract be 
actit and registrat in the buiks of counsale and 
session ad perpetuam rei memoriam and for act- 
ing and registring hereof in the samyn buiks her 
ma'ie ordains hir advocattis and the said noble 
prince & duke hes maid and constitute in" David 
Borthuik Alex r Skeyn his prors con u ie and sea'ie 
promittand de rato In witness of the quhilk thing 
hir ma'ie and the said noble prince and duke hes 
subscrivit this present contract with thair hands 
day yeir and place foirsaids befoir thir witnesses 
ane maist reverend ffader in God Johnne arch- 
bishop of Sant Andrews commendator of paisly & 
George erll of Huntlie lord Gordon and Badzeneth 
chencelar of Scotland &c. Dauid erll of Craufurd 
lord Lindsay Andro erll of Rothes lord Leslie 
Alexander bishop of Galloway commendator of 
Inchaffray John bishop of Koss Johnne lord 
fflemyng Johnme lord Hereiss W m Maitland of 
Lethington youngar secretar to our soverane ladie 
sir Johne Bellanden of Auchnoule kny* justice 
clerk and M r Hubert Crichton of Elioh advocat to 

hir hienes with oy]s diverss. 

(Signed) MARIE ft. 


OF FARE OF 1626. 

If an actual bill of fare in a gentleman's house, 
anno 1626, be worth your acceptance, as a pendant 
to the one prescribed in your fourth number, you 
are welcome to the following extract from the 

account book of Sir Edward Dering, Knt. and 
Bart. : 



" A Dinner att London, made when 
Richardson, my sister E Ashbornham, 
Ashb, my brother John Ashb, my cosen Walldron 
and her sister, and S* John Skeffington, were with me 
att Aldersgate streete, December 23. 1626. My sister 
Fr Ashb and cosen Mary Hill did fayle of coming. 

Wine - - 3s. 10</. 

Stourgeon *..'- . . 7,. 

a joll of brawne 5s. 

pickled oystres a barrell - - Is. 6rf. 

viniger - - - - - 3d. 

Kabetts a couple larkes a dozen plovers 3 and 

snikes 4 7*. 

Carrowaye and comfites - 6d. 

a Banquet and 2 dozen and a half of glasse plates to 

sett itt out in - - 1 /. 3*. 

Haifa doe which in y e fee and charge of bringing 

itt out of Northampton - - 8*. 

a warden py that the cooke made we finding y* 


ffor a venison pasty, we finding y 
ffor 2 minct pyes 
a breast of veale - 
a legg of mutton 

Sum totall expended 

The dinner was att y e first course 
a peece of Brawne. 
a boiled ducke in white broathe. 
a boiled haunch of powdered venison. 

2 minct pyes. 

a boy led legge of mutton. 

a venison pasty. 

a roast ducke. 

a powdered goose roasted. ; 

a breast of veale. 

a cold Capon py. ~ m 

Second course 

a couple of rabitts. 

3 plovers. 
12 larks. 

4 snikes. 

pickled oysters 2 dishes. 
a cold warden py. 
a joull of Sturgeon. 


Apples and Carrawayes. 
wardens bakt and cold, 
a Cake and 
Cheese, i 

A banquett ready in y next room. 
Mem d we had out of y e country y e goose, y e 
duckes, y capon py, y* Cake and wardens, and y* 
venison ; but that is alhvays p d for, though given." 

The above seems to have been a family dinner. 
Sir Edward married, for his second wife, a daughter 



[No. 7. 

of Sir John Ashbornhain, as appears by the follow- 
ing entry : 

1. January 162*, beeing Saturday, at sixe of y e j 
clocke att night, atte Whitehall, in y e Duke of 
" Buckingham's lodgings, I married Anne Ashborn- j 
" ham, third da of Sir John Ashbornham, late of j 
" Ashbornham, Kt." 

In another entry we have 

. . . . Dec. 1 626, heing thursday, Elizabeth Lady ! 
" Ashbornham widor of S r Jno Ashbornham, was mar- | 
" ried in S* Giles his Church in y e feildes, nere London, i 
" to S* Thomas Richardson, K*, then Lo. cheife Justice 
" of y e comon pleas." 

The day of the month is torn out. It would almost 
seem as if this was the wedding dinner, on the 
occasion of the marriage of the Chief Justice with 
Lady Bering's mother ; at all events the reunion 
of the family in London was caused by that event. 

Banquet was the name given to a dessert, and it 
was usually set out in another room. 

The large baking pear is still called warden in 
many counties. 

Appended to the above is a bill of the items of 
the " banquet," with the cost of hire for the glass 
plates ; but it is so hopelessly illegible that I will 
not venture to give it. Many of the items, as far 
as I can read them, are not to be found in " the 
books," and are quite new to me. 

Having had no small experience in deciphering 
hopeless scribblings, I think [ may pronounce this I 
to be better left alone than given in its present 
confused state. LAMBERT B. LARKING. 

Ryarsh Vicarage. 


As a subscriber to your valuable publication, 
allow me to suggest that it might, from time to 
time, be open to contributions explaining obscure 
passages or words, which often occur in the works 
of mediaeval writers, and more especially in early 
English records. So far as English usages and 
customs are concerned, the Glossary of Du Cange 
is of comparatively little value to the English 
student; many terms, indeed, being wrongly in- 
terpreted in all editions of that work. Take, for 
example, the word " tricesima," the explanation of 
which is truly ridiculous ; under " berefellarii," 
the commentary is positively comic ; and many 
other instances might be cited. At the same time, 
it would be presumptuous to speak otherwise than 
in terms of the highest respect and admiration of 
Du Cange and his labours. The errors to which 
I allude were the natural consequences of a 
foreigner's imperfect knowledge of English law 
and English customs; still it is to be lamented 
that they should have remained uncorrected in 
the later editions of the Glossary ; and I take it to 
be our duty to collect and publish, where feasible, 

materials for an English dictionary of mediaeval 
Latin. It is in your power materially to advance 
such a work, and under that impression I venture 
to send the present " Note." 

In the Wardrobe Account of the 55th year of 
Henry the Third, it is stated that among the valu- 
ables in the charge of the keeper of the royal 
wardrobe, there was a silken purse, containing 
" monetam Sancte Helene" It is well known that, 
during the middle ages, many and various objects 
were supposed to possess talismanic virtues. Of 
this class were the coins attributed to the mother 
of Constantine, the authenticity of which is ques- 
tioned by Du Cange, in his treatise " de Inferioris 
cevi numismatibus." He observes, also, that the 
same name was given, vulgarly, to almost all the 
coins of the Byzantine emperors, not only to those 
bearing the effigies of St. Helena, but indeed to 
all marked with a cross, which were commonly 
worn suspended from the neck as phylacteries; 
" hence," he subjoins, " we find that these coins are 
generally perforated." It was quite in accordance 
with the superstitious character of Henry the 
Third that coins of St. Helena should be preserved 
in his wardrobe, among numerous other amulets 
and relics. But what was the peculiar virtue 
attributed to such coins ? Du Cange, in the same 
treatise, says, on the authority of " Bosius," that 
they were a remedy against the " comitialem wor- 
bum" or epilepsy. The said " Bosius," or rather 
"Bozius," wrote a ponderous work, " de Signis 
EcclesicB Dei" (a copy of which, by the by, is not 
to be seen in the library of the British Museum, al- 
though there are two editions of it in the Bodleian), 
in which he discourseth as follows : " Monetas 
adhuc aliquot exstant, quae in honorem Helenae 
Augustae, et inventse crucis, cum hujusmodi ima- 
ginibus excuses antiquitus fuerunt. IHis est prae- 
sens remedium adversus morbum comitialem : et 
qui hodie vivit Turcarum Rex Amurathes, quam- 
vis a nobis alienus, vim sanctam illarum expertus 
solet eas gestare ; e morbo namque hujusmodi in- 
terdum laborat. Nummi quoque Sancti Ludovici 
Francorum regis mirifice valent adversus nonnullos 
morbos." Lib. xv. sig. 68. 

This mention of the sultan Amurath carrying 
these coins about his person as a precaution against 
a disease to which he was subject, and indeed the 
whole passage shows that a belief in their efficacy 
was still prevalent in the sixteenth century, when 
Bozius wrote. It only remains to add, that Du 
Cange, in his Glossary, does not enumerate the 
" money of St. Helena" under the word " moneta;" 
nor does he allude to the coins of St. Louis, which, 
according to Bozius, were endowed with similar 

Having sent you a " Note," permit me to make 
two or three " Queries." 1. What is the earliest 
known instance of the use of a beaver hat in 
England? 2. What is the precise meaning of the 

DEC. 15. 1849.] 



terra " pisan," so often used, in old records, for 

some part of defensive armour, particularly 
thirteenth and fourteenth centuries ? It dc 

in the 
loes not 
bear any relation to the fabrics of Pisa. 



Sir, My best apology for troubling you with 
such a lengthened Query is, that it will serve, to 
some extent, as a Note. Will any of your corre- 
spondents inform me of any additions to the fol- 
lowing list of translations of Gray's Elegy ? It 
may possibly be more incomplete than I am aware 
of, as it is drawn up, with two exceptions, from 
copies in my own library only. 


1 . By Professor Cooke, printed with his edition 
of Aristotle's Poetics, Cantab. 1775. It begins : 
*' Nt> WA, uvS J taf ctypiv irvpa KCUCTOU, ouS' 

2. By Dr. Norbury. 4to. Eton. 1793 : 

ft KuSSeoc ftapus 

3. By Dr. Sparke, Bishop of Ely. 4to. Lond. 

" KtaSuv tfparos oixonfroio fiapvinvitos 

4. ByDr.Coote. 4to. Lond. 1794: 
" K.tu5wv STJTO, <}xiovs TfKfiwp a.ici6vTo 

5. By Stephen Weston. 4 to. London, 1794: 
" "H/iaros olxppfvoio Poa xa\K&y /8a/?vT)xfc." 

6. By Edward Tew. 4to. Lond. 1795 : 

** T?jA' TJX** KuSwv viov ^JUOTOS cb'o/uei'Oio." 

Tliere is also a Greek version of the epitaph 
only, by J. Plumptre, printed with his Greek 
version of Pope's Messiah. 4to. 1795. In a bio- 
graphical notice of Dr. Sparke, it is stated that 
he was among the thirteen candidates when the 
competition took place for the best translation of 
Gray's Elegy into Greek. Query, what was this 
competition, and were any of the other versions 
published ? 

Latin : 

1. By Lloyd. Query, when and where origi- 
nally published? My copy, which is among 
some collections of the late Mr. Hasiewood, ap- 
pears to have been cut out of a Dublin edition. 
It begins : 

" Auclistin ! qtmm lenta sonans campana per agros." 

2. By Signer Gio. Costa. 12mo. In Eblana. 

" Ms triste ingcminat cedentis signa dici." 

3. Bv Gilbert Wakefield, in his "Poemata par- 
tirn script;!, pnrtim reddita." Csimbridgc, 1776: 

" Vesper adest, lugubre sonat Campanula; tardis." 

4. By C. A. et W. H. R. [C. Anstey and W. H. 
Roberts.] 4to. London, 1778 : 

" Ingeminat signum occiduae Campana diei." 

5. The last-mentioned version originally ap- 
peared anonymously in a somewhat different form 
(4to. Cantab. 1762), the first line being : 

" Audin' ut occiduse signum Campana dici." 

6. An anonymous version, " by a member of 
the University of Cambridge," printed with the 
French translation of M. Guedon de Berchere, 
mentioned below. I have no copy, and do not 
know the opening line. 

7. By S. N.E. 4to. London, 1824. Query, the 
name of the author. It may perhaps appear on 
the title-page, which is wanting in my copy : 

" Triste sonans, lente tinnit campana per agros." 

8. By the Rev. J. II. Macauley, in the " Arun- 
dines Cami :" 

" Funebris insonuit moriture naenia lucis." 

Italian : 

1. By Cesarotti. 8vo. In Padova, 1772 : 

" Parte languido il giorno : odine il segno." 

2. By Crocchi. Query, when and where origi- 
nally published ? My copy is from the same source 
as the Latin version by Lloyd : 

" II Bronzo vespertin con flebil rombo." 

3. By Gennari, printed on the same pages with 
the Latin version by Costa : 

' Nunzio del di che parte intorno suona." 

4. By Giannini. 2nd ed. 4to. London, 1782 : 
" Piange la squilla '1 giorno, che si muore." 

5. By Torelli. 8vo. Cambridge, 1782 : 

" Segna la squilla il di che gia vicn manco." 
The Latin version by Costa, and the Italian by 
Cesarotti and Torelli, were reprinted by Bodoni 
in 1793, in 4to., as a supplement to his edition of 

French : 

1. By Mons. P. Guedon de Berchere. I have no 
copy, and do not know the opening line. Perhaps 
you will oblige me by inserting it in your list of 
books wanted to purchase. It is entitled "^Elegie 
composee dans un Cimetiere de Campagne." 8vo. 
Hookham, &c. 1778. 

2. By L.D. 8vo. Chatham, 1806. Query, what 
name is represented by these initials ? 

" Le Ilappcl a marque le jour en soil declin." 

3. Prose version. Anonymous. 8vo. A Paris. 
An vi. : 

" La Cloche du couvre feu tinte le das du jour qui 

German : 

A translation appeared in the Kaleidoscope, a 



[No. 7. 

weekly paper published in Liverpool, in May, 1823. 
It was communicated by a correspondent who had 
obtained a copy from the writer in Germany : 
" Des Dorfes Glocke schallt den Moor entlang." 
I must frankly avow that I have no present ob- 
ject in seeking information beyond the gratification 
of curiosity ; but I would venture to throw out a 
hint that an edition of this Elegy, exhibiting all the 
known translations, arranged in double columns, 
might be made a noble monument to the memory 
ofGray. The plan would involve the necessity 
for a folio size, affording scope for pictorial illus- 
tration, on a scale capable of doing justice to " the 
most finished poem in the English language." 

J. F. M. 


To revive the memory of estimable authors, or 
of estimable books, is a pursuit to which a man of 
leisure may devote himself under the certainty 
that he can neither want materials to proceed with, 
nor miss the reward of commendation. 

It is by the extensive circulation of biographical 
dictionaries, and the re- productive agency of the 
press, that the fame of authors and their works 
is chiefly perpetuated. General biographers, how- 
ever, relying too much on the intelligence and tact 
of their precursors, are frequently the dupes of 
tradition ; and the press, like other descriptions of 
machinery, requires a double motive-power. 

A remedy happily presents itself. As it appears, 
a short note is sufficient to raise inquiry ; and 
inquiry may lead to new facts, or advance critical 
equity. It may rescue a meritorious author from 
oblivion, and restore him to his true position on 
the roll of fame. 

It is near a century and a half since Ant. Wood 
printed a notice of the reverend Thomas Powell, 
and more than a century since the inquisitive 
Oldys devoted eighteen pages to an abstract of 
his Human industry j yet we search in vain for 
the name of Powell in the dictionaries of Aikin, 
Watkins, Chalmers, Gortin, &c. It is even omit- 
ted in the Cambrian biography of his countryman 
William Owen, F.S.A. 

An exact transcript of the title of the work, and 
of the manuscript notes which enrich my own copy 
of it, may therefore be acceptable : 

"Humane industry: or, a history of most manual 
arts, deducing the original, progress, and improvement 
of them. Furnished with variety of instances and ex- 
amples, shewing forth the excellency of humane wit. 
[Anonymous.'} London, for Henry Herringman, 1661." 

[On the title.] E libris rarioribus Joannis Brand, 
Coll. Line. Oxon. 1777." 

[On a fly- leaf.} " This book is ascribed by Wood to 
Dr. Tho 1 . Powell, canon of St. David's, who was, says 

he, 'an able philosopher, a curious critic, and well 
versed in various languages.' See an abstract of this 
scarce book in Oldys's British librarian, p. 42." 

" N.B. The above is the hand- writing of the Rev d . 
M r . Granger, author of the Biographical history. 
I bought it of M r . Prince at Oxford, who purchased 
his books." [John Brand.] 

I have now only to consign the learned Powell 
to future biographers, and to recommend the 
volume as one which deserves a place in every 
choice collection of English books. 



Quotations from Pope. 

D***N**R. (p. 38.), gives, as an instance of 
misquotation, a passage from Pope, as it appeared 
in the Times, and adds a correction of it. As my 
memory suggested a version different from both 
that of the Times, and the correction of your cor- 
respondent, I turned to Pope (Bowles edition, 
1806), and found the passage there, precisely as it 
is given from the Times. Has your correspondent 
any authority for his reading ? No various reading 
of the lines is given by Bowles. 

While on the subject of Pope, I will make a 
note (as I have not seen it noticed by his com- 
mentators), that the well-known line, 

" The proper study of mankind is man," 
is literally from Charron (De la Sagesse, 1. i. 

" La vraye science et le vray etude de I'homme c'est 


[We may add, that in the Aldine edition of Pope, 
which was produced under the editorial superintend- 
ence of the Rev. A. Dyce, the lines are given as quoted 
from the Times, and without any various reading. See 
vol. ii. p. 55.] 

Angels' Visits. 
Campbell's famous line, 

" Like angels visits, few and far between," 
has been clearly shown by a correspondent in 
another paper, to be all but copied from Blair : 

" like an ill-used ghost 
Not to return ; or if it did, its visits, 
Like those of angels, short and far between." 

Blair's Grave. 

But the same phrase, though put differently, oc- 
curs in a religious poem of Norris of Bemerton, 
who died in 1711 : 

" But those who soonest take their flight, 

Are the most exquisite and strong, 
Like angels visits, short and bright, 

Mortality's too weak to bear them long." 


DEC. 15. 1849.] 



Extract from Parish Register of North Rvmcton, 

Sir, As a pendant to the extracts from the 
register of East Peckham, Kent, in your third 
number, I send the following, which I copied some 
time ago from one of the register books of the 
parish of North Runcton, Norfolk, and which 
may prove interesting to some of your readers. 

" Jun. 12. 1660. 

" Reader, Lest whatever pseudography (as there 
is much thereof) occurring to thy intentionall or acci- 
dentall view of the following pages in this book should 
prove offensive to thee, I thought good to give thee an 
account of what hath occasioned the same, viz. In the 
woful days of the late usurper, the registring of births, 
not baptisms, was injoyned and required, to give a 
liberty to all the adversaries of Pedobaptisme, &c., and, 
besides some circumstances, too unhandsome for the 
calling and person of a minister, were then allso anexed 
to him that was to keep a register of all, &c. ; and so 
it came to passe, that persons of no learning, for many 
places, were chosen by y e parish, and ministers declined 
the office. NATH. UOWLES." 

The Norman Crusader. 

" The Norman Crusader," in the horse-armoury 
in the Tower of London, or a part of it, came from 
Green's Museum. He obtained the hauberk from 
Tong Castle. At the dispersion of the Museum, 
the hauberk was purchased by Bullock, of Liver- 
pool (afterwards of the Egyptian Hall), in whose 
catalogue for 1808 it appears as a standing figure, 
holding a brown bill in the right hand, and resting 
the left upon a heater shield. 

Bullock at this time added the chauses. In 
1810, the " London Museum" was opened at the 
" Egyptian Temple " (Hall), the figure as before ; 
but, in the catalogue for 1813, we have the man 
and horse standing in front of the gallery, and 
named " The Norman Crusader." 

At the " decline and fall " of Bullock's Museum, 
Mr. Gwennap purchased the Crusader for, it is 
said, 200 guineas ; and after being put in thorough 
repair, it was placed in the "Aplotheca," Brook 
Street, Mr. Gwennap, iun. adding the sword. 

During its repair, it was discovered that the 
armour was not originally made for a horse, but 
for an elephant ; and, on inquiry, it appeared that 
Bullock had purchased it, together with other cu- 
riosities, of a sailor, had taken it to pieces, and 
formed the armour for the horse. 

At the sale of Gwennap's collection, " The Nor- 
man Crusader" was knocked down by Geo. Robins 
to a Mr. Bentley, for 30/ , and he being unable to 
polish it, as he had intended, sold it to the autho- 
rities at the Tower fbrorie hundred guineas, where 
it is exhibited as " The Norman Crusader." NASO. 

Lady Jane of Westmoreland. 
Sir, On page 206. of Mr. Collier s second vo- 

lume of Extracts from the Registers of the Station- 
ers' Company, the following entry occurs : 
" 1585-6. Cold and uncoth blowes, of the lady 
Jane of Westmorland." And on page 211., 
"A songe of Lady Jane of Westmorland." Mr. 
Collier considers these entries to refer to the same 

The name of Lady Jane of Westmoreland does 
not occur in Park's edition of Royal and Noble 
Authors; but it would clearly be entitled to a 
place there, if we can ascertain who she was. 

I have little doubt she was Jane, daughter of 
Thomas Manners, first Earl of Rutland, and first 
wife of Henry Nevill, fifth Earl of Westmoreland, 
by whom she was mother of Charles, Earl of West- 
moreland, one of the chiefs of the northern re- 

Collins, under the title " Rutland," states that 
Anne, daughter of Thomas, first Earl of Rutland, 
married Henry, Earl of Westmoreland ; but under 
the title " Abergavenny " he states that the same 
Henry, Earl of Westmoreland, married Jane, 
daughter of Thomas, first Earl of Rutland. The 
last statement I presume to be the correct one. 

I can find no other person, at the period in 
question, to whom the title of Lady Jane of West- 
moreland could have been attributed; and her 
sister Frances, who also married a Henry Nevill 
(fourth Lord Abergavenny of that name), is known 
to have been an authoress. An account of her 
will be found in the first volume of the Royal and 
Noble Authors, by Park. Lady Frances Aber- 
gavenny (whose work is entered on page 52. of 
Mr. Collier's second volume), had an only daugh- 
ter, who married Sir Thomas Fane, and From this 
marriage the present Earl of Westmoreland is de- 
scended. Q. D. 


The Lobster in the Medal of the Pretender. 

Your correspondent, Mr. B. NIGHTINGALE, de- 
sires an answer to his Query (in your No. 4), 
Why is the figure of a Lobster introduced into the 
impression upon the rare medal struck 20th June, 
1688, in contempt or ridicule of Prince James 
Edward, the newly-born son of King James II. ? 

A reference to the two following works will, 
perhaps, supply the answer : 

1st. In Philemon Holland's translation of Pliny's 
Natural History (a great authority at the time) this 
passage occurs in book ix. cap. 30. : 

" Lobsters, so long as they are secure of any fear and 
danger, go directly straight, letting down their homes 
at length along their sides ; . . . . but if they be in 
any fear, up go their homes straight and then they 
creep byas and go sidelong." 

And in tin- ni-xt chapter (31.) : 

" Crabs" (which were often confounded with lobsters) 



[No. 7. 

" when they be afraid, will recule backward, as fast as 
they went forward." 

2nd. In the celebrated work of Sebastian Brandt, 
entitled Stultifera Navis (which went through 
many editions after its first appearance in 1494), 
is an engraving of a fool, wearing cap and bells, 
seated astride on the back of a lobster, with a 
broken reed in his hand, and a pigeon flying past 
him as he stares vacantly at it with open mouth. 
The following lines are attached : 


" Qui pretium poscit quod non meruisse videtur, 
Atque super fragilem ponit sua brachia cannam 
Illius in dorso Cancrorum semita stabit ; 
Devolet inque suum rictum satis assa Columba." 

It appears, then, to me, that the design of the 
medallist was to hold up to the execration of the 
English people the machinations of Father Petre, 
who (together with Sunderland) guided the coun- 
cils of the king at that juncture. The Jesuits, 
like the crustaceous fish above-mentioned, were 
alleged to accomplish their dark and crooked 
designs by creeping and sedulously working their 
way straight forward through the mud, until some 
real danger presented itself, and then reculing 
with equal adroitness. 

At this time, too, the bigoted and superstitious 
adherents of James had been offering their vows 
at every shrine, and even making pilgrimages, to 
induce Heaven to grant a male heir to the throne, 
and thus exclude the Protestant daughters of the 
king. The premature and unexpected event, 
therefore, of the birth of a son, was pronounced by 
James's friends to have been predestined by the 
special grace of the Most High. All this, I appre- 
hend, was intended to be typified by the figure of 
the Jesuit Petre riding upon a Lobster. 


Straw Necklaces Method of keeping Notes, Sfc. 

Sir, As I see this matter is not yet explained, 
I venture a suggestion. Wheat straw was an 
emblem of peace among heathen nations ; in it the 
first-fruits brought by Abaris the Hyperborean 
to Delos were wrapped; and when commerce, or 
rather trade by barter, had rendered transmission 
from hand to hand practicable, wheat straw was 
still used. With the worship of Diana the offering 
of wheat straw passed over to Thrace, where it 
was a recognition of that goddess as the patron of 
chastity. In Judea the wheat harvest was later 
than that of barley, the Jews therefore offered a 
sheaf of the latter grain as first-fruits; it is, how- 
ever, extraordinary that Moses orders barley-meal 
as the offering for jealousy (Numbers, v. 15.), 
though the price of barley was but half that of 
wheat. It seems as if there were the same con- 
nection between this peace-offering and that of 

the first-fruits with the Jews, that we see between 
the offering to Diana and the first-fruits of the 
Hyperboreans ; both may have been derived from 
Egypt, in the learning of'which, we are told, Moses 
was skilled. The straw necklace or chaplet of 
Erasmus' pilgrim might be worn to secure him 
from molestation in travelling, or it may refer to 
the patroness of Walsingham, the Virgin Mary. 

I dare say many persons have thought with me, 
that the poet's promise of a " belt of straw " to his 
love, was not a very complimentary one ; the pos- 
sible meaning never struck me till this moment : 
it may be a compliment unconsciously drawn from 
a heathen source, and perpetuated, like so many 
of our old-world customs, among a class of people 
the least likely to understand the meaning. 

Another corroboration of Macaulay's Young 
Levite maybe found in The Tatter, No. 255., sixty 
years later than Burton. 

I beg to suggest a method of keeping " Notes," 
which I have found useful. I have a blank book 
for each quarter of the world, paged alphabeti- 
cally ; I enter my notes and queries according to 
the subject for which they are most likely to be 
required ; if relating to mere geography or history, 
under the name of place or person. I also keep a 
list (with dates) of all the books I read, with a 
note of any use to be made of them ; I also keep 
a list of all books to be read, and the reasons 
for reading them. I tried various ways of keeping 
niy notes, and found no classification so easy for 
reference as the plan I have mentioned ; it may 
not, however, suffice to those whose reading is 
much more extensive than mine j I mention it 
as a working plan. F. C. B. 


Ancient Motto. 

^ Sir, In your Sixth Number, p. 93. J. E. M. 
wishes to know whence the motto, "Si quis 
amicum absentem rodere delectat," &c. is taken. 

Allow me to refer your correspondent to 
Horace, Sat. I. iv. 81 sqq. 

" Absentem qui rodit amicum, 
Qui non defendit, alio culpante, 

hie niger est, bane tu, Romane, caveto." 

The inscription would seem to be but an adap- 
tation of Horace's maxim. C. B. B. 

Political Maxim when first used. 

The political maxim, or phrase, inquired after 
! by C. is Burke's. It occurs in his celebrated 
I Thoughts on the Cause of the present Discontent, 
| published in 1770, in the course of his defence of 
j party, a few pages from the end. A short extract 

DEC. 15. 1849.] 



will show the connection in which it is intro- 
duced : 

44 No man, who is not inflamed by vain-glory into 
enthusiasm, can flatter himself that his single, unsup- 
ported, desultory, unsystematic endeavours are of power 
to defeat the subtle designs and united cabals of am- 
bitious citizens. When bad men combine, the good 
must associate ; else they will fall, one by one, an 
unpitied sacrifice, in a contemptible struggle." 

I have some suspicion that the maxim may 
be found, with probably a slight variation of 
expression, repeated in one of Burke's later tracts. 
But this is certainly its first appearance. G. L. C. 

Old Brompton, Dec. 8. 1849. 

Annus Trabeationis. 

Sir Harris Nicholas, in his Chronology of His- 
tory, p. 4., gives "annus Trabeationis" as oneway 
in which the year of our Lord is designated in 
ancient documents. Would any of your readers 
favour me with the meaning of the word Tra- 
beatio ? G. P. 

[Our correspondent will find, on referring to Mr. 
Hampson's useful work, Medii JEvi Kakndarium, vol. ii. 
s. v. Annus Trabentionis, " According to Du Cange, 
this is the year of the crucifixion Annus Traben- 
tionis Christi (annus quo Christus trabi affixus est) ;' 
but according to L? Art de verifier le.s Dates, it is the 
same as the year of the Incarnation." Mr. Hampson 
adds, 44 the import of the word is the year of the Cruci- 
fixion, and cannot well be reconciled with that of the 
Incarnation." But, upon referring to Du Cange, s. v. 
Trabeatio, our correspondent will find that Du Cange 
regards it as the year of the Incarnation 4< Trabeatio 
autem, non a trabe, qua Crux intelligi posset, sed a 
trabea togas species, deducitur " quoting, as his autho- 
rity for this interpretation, a sermon of St. Ftilgentius 
on St. Stephen, in which he says, " Ileri enim Rex 
nosier Trabea carnis indutus." 

Betterton s Duties of a Player. 
Sir, Betterton's Instructions on the Art of 
Playing and Public Speaking, queried in your 5th 
Number, were published by the well-known dra- 
matic critic, Charles Gildon, and form a portion of 
his Life ofBetterton. As this work is little known, 
I shall quote the title at length: "The Life 
of Mr. Thomas Betterton, the late eminent Tra- 
gedian, wherein the Action and Utterance of the 
Stage, Bar, and Pulpit, are distinctly considered ; 
with the judgment of the late ingenious Monsieur 
de St. Evremond, upon the Italian and Frem-h 
Music and Operas, in a Letter to the Duke of 
Buckingham. To which is added, The Amorous 
AN idow, or the Wanton Wife, a Comedy, written 
b 7 Mr. Betterton, now first printed from the Ori- 
ginal Copy. London, Printed for Robert Gosling, 
at the Miter, near the Inner Temple Gate in Fleet 
Street, 1710. 8vo." Gildon was intimately ac- 
quainted with Betterton, and he gives an interest- 

ing account of a visit paid to that great actor, the 
year before his death, at his country house at 
Reading. It was on this occasion that Gildon 
came into the possession of Betterton's manu- 
scripts. Thirty-one years after the publication of 
Betterton's Life, Curll, the notorious bookseller, 
put forth a mutilated copy of the Instructions on 
Pfaying, in a work bearing the following title : 
"The History of the English Stage, from the 
Restauration to the Present Time, Including the 
Lives, Characters, and Amours, of the most Emi- 
nent Actors and Actresses ; with Instructions for 
Public Speaking, wherein the Action and Utter- 
ance of the Bar, Stage, and Pulpit, are distinctly 
considered. By Thomas Betterton. London, 
Printed f or E. Curll, at Pope's- Head, in Rose-street, 
Covent Garden, 1741. 8vo." From this title it 
would appear (as indeed Curll wished it) that 
Betterton was the author of the entire work ; but 
he is only accountable for the brief Instructions 
for Public Speaking, which, as before stated, were 
pillaged from Gildon. 

Reverting to Colley Gibber's Lives, I beg to 
point out a curious and rare tract in connection 
with them, entitled, "A Brief Supplement to Colley 
Gibber, Esq.; his Lives of the Late Famous Ac- 
tors and Actresses. By Anthony (vulgo Tony) 
Aston. Printed for the Author. 8vo. pp. 24." 
The copy now before me, which was Isaac Reed's, 
sold at his sale for 21. 5s. It is reprinted in a 
literary journal called The Cabinet, and in Bell- 
chambers' excellent edition of Gibber's Apology. 

Whilst on the subject of the stage, I should be 
glad if any of your correspondents could inform me 
what has become of " Dick Leveridge's History of 
the Stage and Actors in his own Time?" Leve- 
ridge himself informed Oldys that he had compiled 
such a work, and Oldys, with his usual care, noted 
the fact in one of his numerous memorandum 
books. I have been long engaged in a history of 
The Life and Times of Henry Purcell, and the 
said MS., if it could be recovered, would, without 
doubt, enlighten us much upon the subject of 
Purcell's career as a dramatic composer. 


Betterton's Essay. 

The " best piece" of Betterton, for which T. J. L. 
inquires (p. 68.), is contained in his Life, printed 
by Gosling, 1710 ; in fact, this is merely a vehicle 
to introduce the treatise, the Life filling only from 
p. 5. to 11., and thus concluding: "He was 
bury'd with great decency in Westminster Abbey." 

"The year before his death, (he) being at his 
country house in Reading, my friend and I tra- 
velled that way One day, after dinner, we 

retired to his garden, and fell into the discourse of 
acting." Thus is introduced his Essay, &c., con- 
tinuing to p. 174., where it abruptly ends thus: 
" After this discourse, we took our leaves of Mr. 



[No. 7, 

Betterton, and returned to London. I was pleased 
with his story," &c. 

My copy is dedicated to Richard Steele, Esq , 
by Charles Gildon, and has prefixed to it the 
beautiful portrait of Betterton, engraved by Van- 
der Gucht, from Kneller's picture, and, at its close 
(but separately paged), " The Amorous Widow or 
the Wanton Wife, now first printed from the ori- 
ginal copy," 1710. 3S. 

Incumbents of Church Livings. 

A correspondent, in Number 4., writes to in- 
quire for information relative to the " names and 
birthplaces of incumbents of church livings prior 
to 1680, and the patrons of them." 

It may slightly help his investigations to know 
that there is a Latin MS. in the British Museum, 
numbered Additional MSS. 12,483, with the title 
" Ecclesiastical Visitation of Hampshire and the 
Isle of Wight, held in March and April, 1543, by 
Nicholas Harpisfelde, Official of the Archdeacon 
of Winchester," folio, containing the names of the 
incumbents and churchwardens ef the livings in 
those counties. W. M. KINGSMILL. 

Westminster, December 1849. 

Mare de Saham Portum Pusillum. 

The first appears to be Soham, in Cambridge- 
shire ; described in Liber Eliensis as " terra de 
Saham, quse est ad stagnum juxta Ely." Does 
"mare " stand for "stagnum," " palus," " maris- 
cus," or our English " mere ? " Can Portum Pusil- 
lum be Littleport, in the same county ? J. F. M. 

Reinerius Inquisition in France. 

Sir, Faber, in his work on the Waldenses, 
quotes Reinerius^ in Biblio. Patrum. I have in 
vain looked in modern biographical dictionaries 
for any account of Reinerius, so am constrained 
to inquire of some of your readers, who and what 
he was, or to beg the favour of a reference to 
some accessible account of him. I think Faber 
says he was an inquisitor ; and this is the extent 
of the information which I have been able to col- 
lect respecting him. 

I wish also to inquire whether his work on 
Heretics (his only work, I presume) has been 
published in any other and more accessible form 
than that in which it was referred to by Faber; 
and, particularly, whether it has ever been trans- 
lated into Englfsh. 

I have often wished to know whether the tri- 
bunal of the Inquisition was ever established else- 
where in Franco, than at Toulouse. Can any of 
your correspondents enlighten me on the point, 
and give me references in proof? D. 

[The work of Reinerius Saccho was first published 
by the Jesuit Gretscr in 1G13, and has since been re- 
printed in the different editions of the Blbliotheca Pa- 
trum. It has nevc-r been translated into English.] 


The following extracts from the Travels of Sir 
William Brereton may answer the inquiry respect- 
ing the ships called " Whelps " : 

" Waterford, 25 July, 1635. About six hour I went 
aboard one of the kings ships, called the ninth whelp, 
which is in the king's books 215 ton and tonnage in 
kings books. She carries sixteen pieces of ordinance, 
two brass rakers, six iron demiculverin drakes, four 
iron whole culverin drakes, and four iron demicannon 
drakes. They are called drakes. They are taper-bored 
in the chamber, and are tempered with extraordinary 
metal to carry that shot ; these are narrower where 
the powder is put in, and wider where the shot is put 
in, and with this kind of ordinance his majesty is much 
affected. This ship is manned with sixty men." 
p. 164. 

" 1627. This 26th of February, attending the 
officers of the navy at Sir Sackville Crowes house by 
Charing Cross, Sir John Pennington came thither to 
acquaint them with a warrant from the Lord Duke 
(of Buckingham) directed to him and myself, for pre- 
sent bargaining with the yard keepers of the river for 
the building of ten small vessels, for the enterprise of 
Rochel, of some 120 tons a piece, with one deck and 
quarter only, to row as well as sail. The 28th of the 
same month we concluded our bargains with the gene- 
ral yard keepers, and drew covenants between us, and 
delivered to them accordingly. In this business I was 
employed till the latter end of July that the ships set 
sail to Portsmouth. My son John was placed captain 
in the sixth whelp, built by my kinsman Peter Pett. 
Having liberty from my lord Duke to make choice 
from among them all, 1 chose that pinnace before the 
rest, supposing she would have proved the best, which 
fell out afterwards cleane contrary. The 4th September 
my son John took leave of me in the evening, and went 
on board his ship, whom I never saw after, being un- 
fortunately cast away in the return from Rochel. 

" 1628. In this interim I received certain intelli- 
gence of the great loss of my son John, his ship and 
all his company, who foundered in the sea about the 
Seames in a great storm, about the beginning of No- 
vember ; not one man saved to bring the doleful news, 
nor no ship near them to deliver the certainty but a 
small pinnace belonging to the fleet that was within 
ken of her, and saw her shoot nine pieces of ordinance 
hoping of succour." Journal of Phineas Pett. MSS. in 
Brit. Mus. 9298. 

" At the return of this fleet (from Rochel) two of 
the whelps were cast away, and three ships more, and 
some five ships who had some of those great stones, 
that were brought to build Pauls, for ballast and for 
other uses within them, which could promise no good 
success, for I never heard of any thing that prospered 
which being once designed for the honour of God was 
alienated from that Use." Howel's Letters, sect. v. 
lett. 9. 

^ The name whelp was probably given them face- 
tiously in reference to their designation as barks. 


DEC. 15. 1849.] 



Cowley or Cowleas. 

Your correspondent W. asks the etymon of 
"Cowley ;" probably "Cow leas," or Cow pasture. 
In ancient records it is written "Couelee." I 
have before me a survey or " extent" of the Hos- 
pitalers' lands in England, including those formerly 
belonging to the Templars. In this record, as in 
most that I have seen, it is written, " Templecoue- 
lee," and it is entered as a limb of the coimnandry 
of Saunford or Sandford. L. B. L. 

Cowley or Coverky Statistics of Roman Catholic 
Church Whelps Discovery of America. 

I can answer pretty confidently the query II. in 
Number 4., p. 59., about the etymon of Cowley, 
for I have, on a farm of my own, two denomina- 
tions of land, called Ox-ley and Cow-ley, and I 
believe that both these names are common all 
through England. Like Horseley, Ashley, Oakley, 
and a thousand other leas or leys distinguished 
from each other by some local characteristic. Cover- 
ley was probably not Cowley, but, like Woodley, 
Orchardleigh, &c., derived from its local position. 

In answer to the query as to the statistics of 
the Roman Catholic Church, p. 61. Number 4., 
I think I may say there is no such general work, 
though the Propaganda of Rome was said to re- 
gister something of that sort. The information is 
only to be picked up from various and (as far as I 
know) all imperfect publications. The least so 
that I can just now refer to is the Statistics of the 
Roman Catholic Church of Ireland, in Thorn's 
Dublin Almanack a very curious and useful com- 

In reply to the inquiry as to a. priest's wife, 
p. 77. Number 5., I would suggest that married 
persons may have separated, and retired each into 
the celibacy of a convent, yet might join, when 
necessary, in a legal conveyance ; but I should 
examine closely the word deciphered clericus. 

To J. J., who inquires about " Whelps," and 
refers to Howell's Letters, sect. 5. p. 9., I beg 
leave to suggest more precision in his future refer- 
ences. The passage is in one (viz. the viii.) of 
the 42 letters of the 5th section ; but in the last 
and best edition (Lond. 1754) it is p. 204. I note 
this to inculcate the necessity of accurate refer- 
ences and mention of the edition quoted. As to 
the query itself, I can answer that the " whelps " 
were a class, perhaps I might say a litter, of light 
men-of-war of the fifth rate, which were so califil, 
perhaps, after one named the "Lion's W/iclj>," 
in Queen Elizabeth's navy, and distinguished by 
numbers, as " 1st Whelp," "2nd Whelp" and soon 
to at least " IQth Whelp," which is to be found in 
a list of the navy in 1651. She was of 180 tons, 
and carried 18 guns and 60 men. It seems not 
easy to account for this class of vessels having 
been rated so high as 5th rates, but I suppose they 
were a favourite and favoured class. 

In reference to the discovery of America by 
Madoc, pp. 7. 12. 25. 57., it may amuse your read- 
ers to be informed that Seneca shadows forth such 
a discovery : 

* Venient annis saecula seris 
Quibus Occanus vincula rerum 
Laxct, et ingcns pateat tellus, 
Ichthysque novos deteget orbes ; 
Nee sit terris ultima Thule." 

Medea, act ii. ad iinein, v. 375. 

" A vaticination," says the commentator, " of 
the Spanish discovery of America." It is certainly 
a curious passage. C. 



In Mr. Dugald Stewart's Dissertation on the 
Progress of Metaphysical Philosophy he says of 
Lord Shaftesbury's work entitled Characteristics 

' It seemed to have the power of changing the 
temper of its critics. It provoked the amiable Berkeley 
to a harshness equally unwonted and unwarranted ; 
while it softened the rugged Warburton so far as to 
dispose the fierce, yet not altogether ungenerous, polemic 
to praise an enemy in the very heat of conflict." 

To this passage is appended the following note : 

" Berkeley's Minute Philosopher, Dialogue 3. ; but 
especially his Theory of Vision Vindicated, London, 
1733 (not republished in the quarto edition of his 
works), where this most excellent man sinks for a 
moment to the level of a railing polemic." 

Can you or any of your readers do me the 
favour to inform me whether the tract here re- 
ferred to has been included in any subsequent 
edition of the Bishop's works, and, if not, where it 
is to be met with ? B. G. 


Mr. Editor, Although your cleverly conceived 
publication may be considered as more applicable 
to men of letters than to men of figures, yet I 
doubt not you will entertain the subject I am 
about to propound : because, in the first place, 
" whole generations of men of letters " are im- 
plicated in the criticism ; and, in the next place, 
because however great, as a man of figures, the 
critic may be, the man of letters criticised was 
assuredly greater. 

Professor de Morgan has discovered a flaw in 
the great Johnson! and, in obedience to your 
epigraph, " when found make a note of it" he has 
made a note of it at the foot of page 7. of The 
Companion to the Almanac for 1850, eccola: 

" The following will show that a palpable absurdity 
will pass before the eyes of generations of men of letters 
without notice. In Boswell's Life of Johnson (chapter 



[No. 7. 

viii. of the edition with chapters), there is given 
conversation between Dr. Adams and Johnson, i 
which the latter asserts that he could finish his Die 
tionary in three years. 

" ADAMS. ' But the French Academy, which con 
sists of forty members, took forty years to compil 
their Dictionary.' JOHNSON. Sir, thus it is. Thi 
is the proportion. Let me see : forty times forty i 
sixteen hundred, so is the proportion of an Englishman 
to a Frenchman.' 

" No one of the numerous editors of Boswell ha 
made a note upon this, although many things as sligh 
have been commented upon : it was certainly no 
Johnson's mistake, for he was a clear-headed arith- 
metician. How many of our readers will stare anc 
wonder what we are talking about, and what the 
mistake is ! " 

Certes, I for one, plead guilty to staring, and 
wondering what the Professor is talking about. 

I cannot for a moment imagine it possible, that 
he could base such a criticism, so announced, upon 
no better foundation than the mere verbal trans- 
position of the words Englishman and Frenchman. 
The inversion deceives no person, and it is 
almost more appropriate to the colloquial jocularity 
of the great Lexicographer's bombast than if the 
enunciation had been more strictly according to 
rule. Besides, the correctness of the expression, 
even as it stands, is capable of defence. Let the 
third and fourth terms be understood as referring 
to time instead of to power, and the proportion 
becomes " as three to sixteen hundred, so is " (the 
time required by) " an Englishman to " (that re- 
quired for the same work by) " a Frenchman." 

Or, if natives be referred to in the plural, 
then, as three to sixteen hundred, so are 

Englishmen to Frenchmen ; 
that is, such is the number of each required for 
the same amount of work. 

But I repeat that I cannot conceive a criticism 
so trifling and questionable can have been the true 
aim of Professor de Morgan's note, and as I am 
unable to discover any other flaw in the Doctor's 

Eoportion, according to the premises, my query, 
r. Editor, has for its object to learn 

" What the mistake is ?" B. 


Sir, Can you, or any of your readers, give me 
any information relating to Caraccioli's Life of 
Lord Clive f It is a book in four bulky octavo 
volumes, without date, published, I believe, at 
different periods, about the year 1780 perhaps 
some years later. It enjoys the distinction of 
being about the worst book that was ever pub- 


unui Jt bears ' on its title-page, the name of 
'Charles Caraccioli, Gent," A writer in the 
Calcutta Review, incidentally alluding to the book 
says that " it is said to have been written by a 

member of one of the councils over which Clive 
presided ; but the writer, being obviously better 
acquainted with his lordship's personal doings in 
Europe than in Asia, the work savours strongly of 
home-manufacture, and has all the appearance of 
being the joint composition of a discarded valet 
and a bookseller's hack." The last hypothesis 
appears very probable. Internal evidence * is 
greatly in its favour. Can any of your readers 
tell me who was " Charles Caraccioli, Gent.," 
when the atrocity which bears his name was pub- 
lished, or any thing about the man or his book ? 
Probably some notice of it may be found in the 
Monthly Review, the Gentleman's Magazine, or 
some other periodical of the last century. The 
writer, indeed, speaks of his first volume having 
been reviewed with "unprecedented" severity. 
Perhaps you can help me to the dates of some 
notices of this book. The work I believe to be 
scarce. The copy in my possession is the only 
complete one I have seen ; but I once stumbled 
upon an odd volume at a book-stall. It is such a 
book as Lord Clive's family would have done well 
in buying up ; and it is not improbable that an 
attempt was made to suppress it. The success of 
your journal is greatly dependent upon the brevity 
of your^ correspondents ; so no more, even in com- 
mendation of its design, from yours obediently, 


Covent Garden, Dec. 5. J849. 



As I want my doubts cleared up on a literary 
>oint of some importance, I thought I could not 
do better than state them in your " NOTES AND 

I have before me a copy of the not by any means 
are volume, called Comedies, Tragi- Comedies, 
mth other Poems, by Mr. William Cartwright, 8vo. 
651, with the portrait by Lombart. Though the 
)ook may be called a common one, I apprehend 
hat my copy of it is in an uncommon state, for 

find m it certain leaves as they were originally 
Tinted, and certain other leaves as they were 
iftervvards substituted. The fact must have been, 
hat after the volume was published by H. Moseley, 
he bookseller, it was called in again, and particular 
>assages suppressed and excluded. 

These passages are three in number, and occur 
espectively on pp. 301, 302, and 305 ; and the two 
rst occur in a poem headed " On the Queen's 
teturn from the Low Countries," an event which 
ccurred only shortly before the death of Cart- 
wnght, which took place on 23rd Dec. 1643. 

1ms poem consists, in my perfect copy, of ei"ht 
anzas but two stanzas are expunged on the can- 
elled leaf, viz. the second and the fifth: the 
econd runs as follows : 

DEC. 15. 1849.] 



When greater tempests, than on sea before, 

Receiv'd her on the shore, 
When she was shot at for the king's otcn good, 

By legions hir'd to bloud ; 
How bravely did she do, how bravely bear ! 
And shew'd, though they durst rage, she durst 

not fear." 

The queen landed at Burlington on 22nd Feb. 
1642, so that Cartwright may have written what 
precedes ; but how could he have written what 
follows, the fifth stanza of the poem, which men- 
tions an event that did not occur until six or seven 
years afterwards ? 

" Look on her enemies, on their Godly lies, 

Their holy perjuries, 
Their curs'd encrease of much ill gotten wealth, 

By rapine or by stealth, 
Their crafty friendship knit in equall guilt, 
And the Crown-Martyr's bloud so lately spilt." 

Hence arises my first question if Cartwright 
were not the author of this poem, who was? 
Although Izaac Walton, Jasper Mayne, James 
Howell, Sir John Birkenhead, and a host of other 
versifyers, introduce the volume with " laudatory 
lays," we are not to suppose that they meant to 
vouch for the genuineness of every production 
therein inserted and imputed to Cartwright. Was 
the whole poem " On the Queen's Return " foisted 
in, or only the two stanzas above quoted, which 
were excluded when the book was called in ? 

The next poem on which I have any remark to 
make immediately succeeds that " On the Queen's 
Return," and is entitled " Upon the Death of the 
Right Valiant Sir Bevill Grenvill, Knight," who, 
we know from Lord Clarendon, was killed at 
Lansdown on 5th July, 1643, only five months 
before the death of Cartwright, who is supposed 
to have celebrated his fall. This production is 
incomplete, and the subsequent twelve lines on 
p. 305. are omitted in the ordinary copies of 
Cartwright's Comedies, Tragi- Comedies, with other 
Poems : 

" You now that boast the spirit, and its sway, 
Shew us his second, and wee'l give the day : 
We know your politique axiom, Lurk, or fly ; 
Ye cannot conquer, 'cause you dare not dye : 
And though you thank God that you lost none 

'Cause they were such who Z/o'rf not when they 


Yet your great Gcnerall (who doth rise and fall, 
As his successes do, whom you dare call, 
As Fame unto you doth reports dispence, 

Either a or his Excellence) 

Howe'r he reigns now by unheard-of laws, 
Could wish his fate together with his cause." 

It is clear to me, that these lines could not 
have been written in 1643, soon after the death of 
Sir 13. Grenvill ; and, supposing any part of the 

poem to have come from the pen of Cartwright, 
they must have been interpolated after the eleva- 
tion of Cromwell to supreme power. 

I have thrown out these points for information, 
and it is probable that some of your readers will 
be able to afford it: if able, I conclude they will 
be willing. 

It may be an error to fancy that the copy of 
Cartwright now in my hands, containing the can- 
celled and uncancelled leaves, is a rarity; but 
although in my time I have inspected at least 
thirty copies of his Comedies, Tragi- Comedies, 
with other Poems, I certainly never met with one 
before with this peculiarity. On this matter, also, 
I hope for enlightenment. 

Do the stanzas " On the Queen's Return" and 
the lines on the death of Sir B. Grenvill exist in 
any of the various collections of State Poems ? 




In Day's edition of Tyndale's Works, Lond. 
1573, at p. 476., Tyndale says: 

" Had he " (Sir Thomas More] ' not come begging 
for the clergy from purgatory, with his supplication of 
souls nor the poor soul and proctor been there with 
his bloody bishop Christe catte, so far conjured into his 
own Utopia." 

I take the word to be Christencat; but its two 
parts are so divided by the position of Christe 
at the end of one line, and catte at the beginning 
of the next, as to prevent it from being certain 
that they form one word. But I would gladly 
learn from any of your correspondents, whether 
the name of Christencat, or Christian-cat, is that 
of any bishop personified in the Old Moralities, or 
known to have been the satirical soubriquet for 
any bishop of Henry VIII.'s time. The text would 
suggest the expectation of its occurring either in 
More's Utopia, or in his Supplication of Souls, but 
I cannot find it in either of them. 


Hexameter Verses in the Scriptures. 

Sir, I shall feel obliged to any of your readers 
who will refer me to an hexameter line in the 
authorised English version of the Old Testament. 

The following are two examples in the New 

Art them he | that should | come or | do we | look for 
a neither. || 

Husbands | love your | wives and | be not | bitter 
a gainst them. || 

W. J. B. R. 



[No. 7. 


The extraordinary collection of the works of 
Daniel Defoe formed by Mr. Walter Wilson, his 
biographer, which at his sale realised the sum of 
50/., and which had been rendered still further 
complete by the addition of upwards of forty 
pieces by the recent possessor, when sold by 
Messrs. Puttick and Simpson, on Wednesday, the 
5th instant, produced no less than 711. Mr. Toovey 
was the purchaser. 

The Shakspeare Society have just issued a very 
interesting volume, the nature of which is well 
described by its ample title-page : 

" Inigo Jones. A Life of the Architect, by Peter 
Cunningham, Esq. Remarks on some of his Sketches 
for Masques and Dramas, by J. R. Planche, Esq. ; and 
Five Court Masques. Edited from the original MSS. 
of Ben Jonson, John Marston, etc., by John Payne 
Collier, Esq. ; accompanied by Facsimiles of Drawings 
by Itiigo Jones ; and by a Portrait from a Painting by 

Many particulars in the memoir are new in the 
biography of the great architect. Mr. Planche's 
too brief Remarks on the Costume make us join 
with Mr. Collier in regretting that he did not 
extend to all the plates " the resources of his 
attainments and talents;" while the five masques 
and the general preface, contributed by Mr. 
Collier, form by no means the least valuable 
portion of a volume which cannot fail to give 
satisfaction to all the members of the society by 
which it is issued. 

Mr. Kerslake, of Bristol, has just issued a 
small Catalogue of Books bought at Brockley 
Hall, and some which formerly belonged to 
Browne Willis, which contains some interesting 
articles, such as, No. 222., M'Cormick's Memoirs 
of Burke, with numerous MS. notes throughout 
by J. Home Tooke; the first edition of Wit's 
Recreation, 1640, with a MS. note by Sir F. 
Freeling : "I have never seen another perfect 
copy of the first edition. That in Longman's 
Bib. Ang. Poetica, wanted frontispiece and 4 leaves, 
and was priced 71. 7s. 

Messrs. Puttick and Simpson, who have during 
the present week been selling the curious Dra- 
matic Library, printed and manuscript, and the 
theatrical portraits of the late Mr. James Winston, 
will commmence, on Monday, the sale of Mr. 
Mitchell's Collection of Autograph Letters. The 
most interesting portion of these are eight- and- 
forty unpublished letters by Garrick, among 
which is one written to his brother Peter, com- 
menced on the day on which he made his appear- 
ance on the London boards, and finished on the 
following. In it he communicates his change of 
occupation to his brother, premising that since he 
had been in business he had " run out four hun- 
dred pounds, and found trade not increasing," and 

had now begun to think of some way of redeeming 
his fortune. " My mind (as you know) has always 
been inclined to the stage; nay, so strongly so, that 
all my illness and lowness of spirits was owing 
to my want of resolution to tell you my thoughts 
when here. . . . Though I know you will be dis- 
pleased with me, yet I hope when you shall find 
that I may have the genius of an actor without 
the vices, you will think less severe of me, and not 
be ashamed to own me for a brother." He makes 
an offer as to the transfer of his business, stock, 
&c. " Last night I played Richard the Third to 
the surprise of every body ; and as I shall make 
very near 300/. per annum of it, and as it is really 
what I doat upon, I am resolved to pursue it." 
In a postscript, he adds, " I have a farce (The 
Lying Valet), coming out at Drury-lane." And 
his progress in his new profession is shown in an- 
other letter, addressed also to his brother Peter, 
on the 19th of April following, in which, after 
mentioning some affairs of business connected with 
their wine trade he says : 

" The favour I have met with from the greatest 
men has made me far from repenting of my choice. I 
am very intimate with Mr. Glover, who will bring out 
a Tragedy next winter on my account. I have supp'd 
with the great Mr. Murray, Counsellor, and shall with 
Mr. Pope by his introduction. I supp'd with Mr. 
Littleton, the Prince's favourite, last Thursday night, 
and met with the highest civility and complaisance ; 
he told me he never knew what acting was till I ap- 
peared, and said I was only born to act what Shak- 
speare writ I believe nobody as an Actor was 

ever more caressed, and my character as a private man 
makes 'em more desirous of my company (all this entre 
nous as one brother to another). I am not fixed for 
next year, but shall certainly be at the other end of the 
town. I am offered 500 guineas and a clear benefit, 
or part of the management," &c. 

The whole collection forms, indeed, a curious 
and new contribution towards the biography of 
that distinguished actor. 



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Sir, In Dr. Maitland's able vindication of the 
Dark Ages (p. 419. 1st ed.), he concludes his in- 
teresting extract from the scribe Otloh's account 
of himself by saying : " One would like to know 
what books they were which Otlohnus thus multi- 
plied ; but this, perhaps, is now impossible." I 
have it accidentally in my power to identify two 
at least of the number ; and if it was his uni- 
versal practice to subscribe his name, as he does 
in these instances, a search into the principal re- 
positories of MSS. would, no doubt, give a large 
list. A valuable MS. volume in my possession 
has been thus described by a learned Benedictine : 
'C'mlcx Mriubninaceus constans foliis 223 nume- 
rando; saeculis ix. desinente, x. et xi. incipiente, 
vnriis manilms si-riptus, per partes qui in unum 
collectus, ex scriptis variis nitida? scripttirae carlo- 
vingicse, varia continens : 1" Vita et Passio, seu 

Martirium S. Dionisii ; scripta fuit ab Hilduino 
Abbate Ccenobii S. Dionisii in Francia sub Ludo- 
vico Pio." It is said that Hilduinus was the first 
writer who gave the marvellous story of the saint 
carrying his own head in his hand for nearly two 
miles after his decapitation. But he tells us that 
he abridged his narration ex Grcecam et Latinorum 

2 Revelatio facta S. Stephano Papae de conse- 
cratione altaris SS. Petri et Pauli ante Sepul- 
chrum S. -Martini Dionisii quai consecratio facta 
fuit v. kal. Aug. 754. This part of the MS. is 
remarkable for containing in one place the date 
written in lloman ciphers, thus bccLim. v. kl. 
aug. ; a circumstance so rare in MSS. of this age, 
as to have astonished the learned diplomatists Pape- 
broch and Germon. 

3 Historia S. Simeonis Trevirensis Solitarii. 
Of whom it is recorded that he lived sub Poppone 
Episcopo Trevirense, in qucedam cellula ad portam 
nigram situ. At fol. 36. an interesting account of 
the death of the saint is given by the author, who 
was present, and with the assistance of two other 
monks, piously performed his obsequies. It ap- 
pears that the abbey of S. Maximin was about 
1 20 paces from the cell of the saint at Treves, and 
it is therefore most probable that the writer was a 
monk of the Benedictine order then belonging to 
that foundation ; but he puts his name out of 
doubt by the following couplet, inscribed at the 
end of the narrative : 

*' Presbiter et monachus OTLOH quidam vocitatus 
Sancte tibi libruin BONJFACII tradidit istum." 

This dedication of his labours to S. Boniface may 
only indicate his veneration for the national saint ; 
but, as he tells us he worked a great deal in the 
monastery atFulda (of which S. Boniface was the 
patron saint and founder), may not this have been 
one of his labours there ? At a subsequent period, 
it appears, he revised and amplified Wilibald's 
Life of Boniface. 

I must summarily indicate the other contents of 
this interesting MS., which are: 4. Passio SS. 
Sebastian! et Vincentii. 5. Vita S. Burchar i. 
6. Vita et Passio S. Kiliani (genere Scoti). 7. Vita 
S. Sole. 8. Vita S. Ciri. 9. Depositio S. Satiri. 



10 Alphabetic Gracum. 11. Officio pro Choro 
cum n'otis musicis, pro festo S.^ancratii; jeqmtur 

12. Vita S. Columbani 

[No. 8. 

in festo 

insns maruniB UWWMW *" . . ... . , 

[this is anonymous, but is attributed to his disciple 
Jonas, and "contains much L va luable Atoned 
matter]. Lastly, 13. Vita S. Wolfgangi, by the 
hand of our interesting scribe OTLOH, written at 
the instance of the Benedictine Coenobites of his 
monastery of S. Einmeram, at Ratisbon, where 
the saint was buried. This, as in the case of the 
Life of S. Boniface, is a rifacdmento ; it was made 
from two older lives of S. Wolfgang, as Otloh 
himself tells us, one of them by a certain monk 
named Arnolfus, the other having been brought 
out of France. He is here, therefore, more an 
author than a scribe; but he declares modestly 
that it was a task he would willingly avoid for the 
future. The passage of his Preface is worth 
transcribing: " Fratrum quorundam nostrorum 
hortatu sedulo infimus ego, O ccenobitarum S. 
Emmerammi compulsus sum S. Wolfgangi vitam 
in libellulis duobus dissimili interdum, et impolita 
materie descriptam in unum colligere, et aliquan- 

tulum sublimiori modo corrigere Multa 

etiam quae in libro neutro inveniebantur, fidelium 
quorundam attestatione comperta addere studui, 
sicque quaedam addendo, qusedam vero fastidiose 
vel inepte dicta excerpendo, pluraque etiam cor- 
rigendo, sed et capitularia prseponendo. Vobis 
Cffratres mei exactoresque hujus^rei prout inge- 
nioli mei parvitas permisit obedivi. Jam rogo 
cessate plus tale quid exigere a me." At the end 
of the Life he has written : 

" Presul Wolfgange cunctis semper venerande 
Hscc tua qui scrips! jam memor esto mini 
Presbiter et Monachus Otloh quidam vocitatus 
Sancte tibi librum Bonifacii tradidit istum." 

We have here sufficient evidence that Otloh was 
a worthy predecessor of the distinguished Bene- 
dictines to whom the world of letters has been so 
deeply indebted in more recent times. 

Dr. Maitland's mention of the calligraphic la- 
bours of the nun Diemudis, Otloh' s contemporary, 
is not a solitary instance : in all ages, the world 
has been indebted to the pious zeal of these 
recluse females for the multiplication of books of 
devotion and devout instruction. An instance, of so 
late a date as the eve of the invention of printing, 
now lies before me, in a thick volume, most beauti- 
fully written by fair hands that must have been 
long practised in the art. As the colophon at the 
end preserves the names of the ladies, and records 
that the parchment was charitably furnished by 
their spiritual father, I think it worth tran- 
scribing : 

" Expliciunt, Deo laus omnipotente, quinque Hbr 
per manibus Sororum AUE TRICI et GHEEZE YSENOUD 
in festivus diebus suis consororibus dilectis in memo- 

riam earum. Finiti aHo dni M cccc & XLIX- 
decollationis Sci Johannis bap tiste ante sumam missam. 
Et habebant ad hoc pergamenum sibi ex caritate pro- 
visum de venerabili presbitero Dno NICOLAO WYT tune 
temporis earundem patre spirituali & sibi ipsus spiritu- 
aliter ac in Dno sat reverenter dilectio. Ex caritativo 
amore sitis propter Deum memores eorum cum uno 

I omitted to mention that Massmann, in his 
Kleinen Sprachdenkmale des VIII. bis XII. Jahr- 
hunderts, Leipsig, 1830, p. 50, says : "The Bene- 
dictine priest Otloh, of Regensburg, left behind 
aim a work, De Ammonicione Clencorum et Lai- 
vrum, in which is twice given a Latin prayer 
'Cod. Monacens. Emmeram. f. cxiii. mbr. saec. 

si ), at fol. 51. d., as Oratio ejusqui ct suprascnpta 
^tsequentia edidit dicta, and at fol. 158. as Oratio 
suidam peccatoris." On fol. 161. b. is an old Ger- 

nan version, first printed by Fez (Thes.i. 417.), 
corrected by Graff. Diutiska, 111. 211, by Mass- 
nann, at p. 

r . 168. Otloh mentions in this prayer 
he destruction of his monastery of St. Emmeram, 
vhich took place in 1062. 

I have advisedly called him Otloh, and not 
Otlolmus. S. W. SINGER. 

Mickleham, Dec. 10. 1849. 



No. 1. "Gerrard Street, Soho. * * * At the 
Turk's Head, in Gerrard Street, Johnson and Sir 
Joshua Reynolds founded, in the year 1764, ' The 
Literary Club.' " 

It would appear from the following extracts m 
my Common-place Book, that the original Turk's 
Head, at which the Literary Club first held their 
meetings, was in Greek Street, Soho, not in 
Gerrard Street : 

Tbe Literary Club was first held at the Turk's 
Head in Greek Street, which tavern was almost half a 
century since removed to Gerrard Street, where it con- 
tinued nearly as long as the house was kept open." 
European Mag. Jan. 1803. 

" The Turk's Head, in Gerrard Street, Soho, was, 
more than fifty years since, removed from a tavern of 
the same sign the corner of Greek and Compton Streets. 
This place was a kind of head-quarters for the Loyal 
Association during the rebellion of 1745." Moser's 
Memorandum Book, MS. dated 1799. 

No. 2. Storey's Gate, Birdcage Walk, St. James's 
Park. I have seen it stated, but do not recollect 
where, that "Storey's" was a house of public 
entertainment. " Webb's," mentioned in the fol- 
lowing extracts, was also a place of a similar de- 
scription : 

" April 25. 1682. About nine, this night, it began 
to lighten, thunder, and rain. The next morning, 
there was the greatest flood in S. James's Park ever 

DEC. 22. 1849.] 



remembered. It came round about the fences, and up 
to tbe gravel walks people could not walk to Webb's 
and Stories. 

" April 3. 1685. This afternoon nine or ten houses 
were burned or blown up, that looked into S. James's 
Park, between WebVs and Stone's." Diary of Philip 
Madox, MS. formerly in the possession of Thorpe the 

No. 3. Capel Court. So named from Sir Wil- 
liam Capell, draper, Lord Mayor in 1503, whose 
mansion stood on the site of the present Stock 
Exchange. Pennant's Common-place Book. 

No. 4. Bloomsbury Market. This market, built 
by the Duke of Bedford, was opened in March, 
1730. Query, was there a market on the site 
before? Ibid. 

No. 5. Bartlefs Buildings. MackeriVs Quaker 
Coffee-house, frequently mentioned at the begin- 
ning of the last century, was in these buildings. 

No. 6. St. Olave's, Crutcho.d Friars. Names of 
various persons who have occupied houses in this 

?arish: Lady Sydney, 1586 Lady Walsingham, 
590 Lady Essex, 1594 Lord Lumley, 1594 
Viscount Sudbury, 1629 Philip Lord Her- 
bert, 1646 Dr. Gibbon, 1653 Sir R. Ford, 
1653 Lord Brounker, 1673 Sir Cloudesley 
Shovel, 1700. Extracts from tlie Registers made 
by the Rev. H. H. Goodhall, 1818. 



In reply to your correspondent's query as to 
the "wives of ecclesiastics," I find amongst my 
notes one to this effect : 

ERROR, to assume in ancient genealogies that a 
branch is necessarily extinct, simply because the 
last known representative is described as " Cleri- 
cus," and ergo, must have died S. P. L. 

It will be obvious to many of your readers that 
Clericus is nomen generale for all such as were 
learned in the arts of reading and writing, and 
whom the old law deemed capable of claiming 
benefit of clergy, a benefit not confined to those 
in orders, if the ordinary's deputy standing by 
could say " legit ut clericus." 

The title of Clericus, then, in earlier times as 
now, belonged not only to those in the holy mi- 
nistry of the Church, and to whom more strictly 
applied the term Clergy, either regular or secular, 
but to those as well who by their function or 
course of life practised their pens in any court or 
JMherwifle, as Clerk of the King's Wardrobe, Clerks 
of the K.\ HUM pier, &c. Though in former times 
clerks of this description were frequently in holy 
;md held benefice?, it must be evident that 
they were not all so of necessity ; and the in- 
are so mum-roiis where persons having the 
title of "Clericus" appear nevertheless to have 

been in the married state, and to have discharged 
functions incompatible with the service of the 
Church, that the assertion will not be denied that 
the restrictions as to contracting matrimonial al- 
liances did not extend to clerks not in holy orders 
or below the grade of subdiaconus. The Regis- 
trum Brevium furnishes a precedent of a writ, 
" DP. clerico infra sacros ordincs constituto non eli- 
gendo in qfficium" This distinction alone would 
prove that other clerks were not ineligible to 
office. The various decrees of the Church may 
be cited to show that the prohibition to marry 
did not include all clerks generally. Pope 
Gregory VII., in a synod held in 1074, "inter- 
dixit clericis, maxime divino ministerio conse- 
cratis uxores habere, vel cum mulieribus habitare, 
nisi quas Nicena Synodus vel alii canones exce- 

The statutes made by Anselm, Archbishop of 
Canterbury, Thomas, Archbishop elect of York, 
and all the other bishops of England, in 1108, in 
presence of King Henry I., and with the assent of 
his barons, confine the interdiction respecting mar- 
riages to Presbyteri, Diaconi et Subdiaconi, and a 
provision is made by them for those cases where 
marriages had been contracted since the interdict 
at the Council of London (that probably in 1103), 
viz. that such should be precluded thereafter 
from celebrating mass, if they persisted in retain- 
ing their wives. "Illi vero presbyteri, diaconi, 
subdiaconi, qui post interdictum Londoniensis 
Concilii foeminas suas tenuerunt vel alias duxe- 
runt, si amplius inissam celebrare voluerint, eas a 
se omnino sic facient alienas, ut nee ilia; in domos 
eorum, nee ipsi in domos earuin intrent. . . . Illi 
autem presbyteri qui divini altaris et sacrorum 
ordinum contemptores pncelegerint cum mulie- 
ribus habitare a divino oflicio remoti, omnique 
ecclesiastico beneficio privati, extra chorum po- 
nantur, infames pronunciati. Qui vero rebellis et 
contemptor foeminam non reliquerit, et missam cele- 
brare presumpscrit, vocatus ad satisfactionem si 
neglexerit, viij. die cxcommunicetur. Eadem 
sententia archidiaconos et canonicos omnes com- 
plectitur, et de mulieribus relinquendis et de vi- 
tanda earum conversatione, et de district ione cen- 
sura3 si statuta transgressi fuerint. . . . Presbyteri 
vero qui relictis mulieribus, Deo et sacris altaribus 
servire elcgerint, xl. dies ab officio cessantes, pro 
se interim vicarios habcbunt, injuncta eis poeni- 
tcntia secundum hoc quod episcopis eorum visum 
fuerit." In 1138 the penalty for priests marrying 
was deprivation of their benefices, and exclusion 
from the celebration of divine service: "Sanc- 
torum patrum vestigiis inhaerentes, presbyteros, 
diaconos, subdiaconos uxoratos, aut concubinarios, 
ecclesiasticis officiis et beneficiis privamus, ac ne 
quis eorum inissam audire pracsumat Apostolica 
auctoritate prohibemus." 

Many such decrees have been made at various 



[No. 8, 

synods and councils holden for reformation of the 
clergy, but I can find none wherein marriage is 
interdicted to clerks generally. I will refer to 
one more only, viz. that made m the Council of 
London, held at Westminster in 1175. Here it 
will be seen most distinctly that the prohibition 
against entering the marriage state was confined 
expressly to Clerici in sacris ordinibus conshtuti, 
and that it was not only lawful for clerks below 
the grade of subdeacon to marry, but that having 
once entered the marriage state, and being subse- 
quently desirous ad religionem transire, and to 
continue in the service of the Church, they could 
not do so and be separated from their wives unless 
de communi consensu ; if they continued, however, 
to live with their wives, they could not hold an 
ecclesiastical benefice : " Si quis sacerdos vel eleri- 
cus in sacris ordinibus constitutus, ecclesiam vel 
ecclesiasticum beneficium habens publice forni- 

cariam habeat," &c " Si qui vero infra sub- 

diaconatum constituti matrimonia contraxerint, ab 
uxoribus suis nisi de communi consensu ad reli- 
gionem transire voluerint, et ibi in Dei servitio 
vigilanter permanere, nullatenus separentur: sed 
cum uxoribus viventes, ecclesiastica beneficia nullo 
modo percipiant. Qui autem in subdiaconatu^vel 
supra, ad matrimonia convolaverint, mulieres etiam 
invitas et renitentes relinquant." 

Thus it will be seen that the title " Clericus," 
under some circumstances, affords no certain in- 
dication that a lawful marriage may not have been 
contracted by the person so described, and conse- 
quently that he might not have prolem legitimam. 


It does not follow that William de Bolton was 
an ecclesiastic because he was called Clericus ; 
that designation being, even in that early time, 
often used in a lay sense. 

I have just come across an instance of a prior 
date. In 'the Liberate Roll of 26 Henry III. the 
king directs a payment to be made " to Isabella, 
the wife of our beloved clerk, Robert of Canter- 
bury, to purchase a robe for our use." Even in 
the reign of Richard I. it may be doubtful whether 
the term was not used with both meanings ; for in 
the charter of Walter Mapes, granting certain 
lands, among the witnesses are "Rogero, capel- 
lano, Willelmo, capellano, Thoma, clerico meo, 
Waltero, clerico, Jacobo, clerico, Bricio, fermario 

[In addition to the information afforded by the pre- 
ceding comimmications, "A SUBSCRIBER" will fine 
much curious illustration of this subject in Beveridge's 
Discourse on Ihe Thirty-nine Articles, where he treats o 
the Thirty-second article "On the Marriage of Priests.' 

He must, however, consult the edition printed at the 
Oxford University Press in 1840, which contains for 
the first time Beveridge's Discourses on the last Nine 


Sir, In your second number I find _ a query 

by Mr. Cunningham, respecting the origin of the 

name of Tower Royal; although I cannot satisfac- 

orily explain it, I enclose a few notes relative to 

ie early history of that place, which may, perhaps, 

afford a clue to its derivation. 

In early records it is invariably called la Real, 
'laReole," "laRiole," or "laRyal orRyole;" 
and it is described simply as a " tenement ;" I have 
never found an instance of its being called a 
' tower." At the close of the reign of Henry HI. 
.t was held by one Thomas Bat, citizen of London, 
who demised it to Master Simon of Beauvais, 
surgeon to Edward I. ; this grant was confirmed 

y that sovereign by charter in 1277. (Rot. 

art. 5 Edw. I. m. 17. Placita de Quo Warranto, 
p. 461.) This Simon of Beauvais figures in Stow 
and Pennant as Simon de Beawmes. In 1331 
Edward III. granted "la Real" to his consort 
Philippa, for the term of her life, that it might^be 
used as a depository for her wardrobe. (Rot. Pat. 
4 Edw. III. 2nd part, m. 15.) By Queen Philippa 
it was extensively repaired, if not rebuilt, and the 
particulars of the works executed there by her 
direction, may be seen in the Wardrobe Account 
of the sixth year of her reign, preserved in the 
Cottonian MS. Galba E iii. fo. 177, et seq. ; this 
account is erroneously attributed in the catalogue 
to Eleanor, consort of Edward I. One Maria de 
Beauvais, probably a descendant of Master Simon, 
received compensation for quitting a tenement 
which she held at the time Philippa's operations 
commenced. In 1365 Edward III. granted to 
Robert de Corby, in fee, "one tenement in the 
street of la Ryole, London," to hold by the accus- 
tomed services. Finally in 1370 Edward gave 
the " inn (hospitium) with its appurtenances called 
le Reole, in the city of London," to the canons of 
St. Stephen's, Westminster, as of the yearly value 
of 20/. (Rot. Pat. 43 Edw. III. m. 24.) 

It is thus sufficiently clear that in the thirteenth 
and fourteenth centuries this place was not called 
Tower Royal; nor does there appear to be any 
ground for supposing that it was so named in 
earlier times, or, indeed, that it was ever occupied 
by royalty before it became Philippa's wardrobe. 
The question, therefore, is narrowed to this point : 
what is the signification of " la Real, Reole, or 
Riole?" I should be glad if any of your corre- 
spondents would give their opinions on the subject. 
I may add, that the building was in the parish of 

St. Thomas Apostle, not in that of St. Michael 
Pater Noster Church, as Stow wrote. (Rot. Pat. 
4 Edw. III. 2nd part, m. 38.) T. H. T. 

Let me refer Mr. P. Cunningham to " Stow's 
Survey, p. 27. 92. Thorns' Edition," for a full an- 
swer to his query. The passages are too long to 
cite, but Mr. C. will there find sufficient proof of 

DEC. 22. 1849.] 



the part of a royal residence having once stood in 
this obscure lane, now almost demolished in the 
sweeping city improvements, which threaten in 
time to leave us hardly a fragment of the London 
of the old chronicler. 

The Tower was also called the Queen's Ward- 
robe, and it was there, Froissart tells us, that Joan 
of Kent, the mother of Richard II., took refuge 
during Wat Tyler's rebellion, when forced to fly 
from the Tower of London. The old historian 
writes, that after the, defeat of the rebels " pour le 
premier chemin que le Hoy fit, il vint deuers sa 
Dame de mere, la Princesse, qui estoit en un 
chastel de la Riolle (que Ton dit la Garderobbe la 
Reyne) et la s'estoit tenue deux jours et deux 
nuits, moult ebahie ; et avoit bien raison. Quand 
elle vit le Roy son fils, elle fut toute rejouye, et 
luy dit, * Ha ha beau fils, comment j'ay eu aujour- 
d'huy grand peine et angoisse pour vous.' Dont 
respondit le Roy, et dit, * Certes, Madame, je le 
say bien. Or vous rejouissez et louez Dieu, car 
il est heure de le louer. J'ay aujourd'huy recouvre 
mon heritage et le royaume d'Angleterre, que 
j'avoye perdu.' Ainsi se tint le Roy ce jour delez 
sa mere." (Froissart, ii. 132. Par. 1573.) 

In Stow's time this interesting locality had been 
degraded into stables for the king's horses, and 
let out in divers tenements. E. V. 

[We are indebted to J. E., R. T. S., and other corre- 
spondents, for replies to Mr. Cunningham's Query ; 
but as their answers contain only general references 
to works which it is reasonable to suppose that gentle- 
man must have consulted during the preparation of his 
Handbook for London, we have not thought it necessary 
to insert them.] 


Mr. Editor, The subject of inscribed dishes 
of latten, of which so many varieties have recently 
been imported, appears to be regarded with in- 
terest by several of your readers. I am indebted 
to the Rev. William Drake, of Coventry, for a 
rubbing from one of these mysterious inscriptions, 
upon an " alms-plate" in his possession. In 
the centre is represented the Temptation. There 
are two inscribed circles; on the inner and 
broader one appear letters, which have been read, 
pBAHEWISHNBY. They are several times 
repeated. On the exterior circle is the legend 
- K II. SART. GELUK. ALZEIT. This Tik, - 
wise is repeated, so as to fill the entire cirele. 1 
have never before met with these inscriptions in the 
.umber of dMies of this kind which I have 
examined They have been termed alms-dishes, 
and are usi-il still in parochial collections in France, 
as doubtless ili.-y have in Kn-rlainl. They 
were also used in ancient times in the ceremony 
of baptism, and they are called baptismal basons, 

by some foreign writers. This use is well illustrated 
by the very curious early Flemish painting in the 
Antwerp Gallery, representing the seven sacra' 
ments. The acolyte, standing near the font, 
bears such a dish, and a napkin. The proper use 
of these latten dishes was, as I belie\e, to serve as 
a laver, carried round at the close of the banquet 
in old times, as now at civic festivities. They 
often bear devices of a sacred character ; but it is 
probable that they were only occasionally used for 
any sacred purpose, and are more properly to be 
regarded as part of the domestic appliances of 
former times. ALBERT WAY. 


In Brand's Popular Antiquities, vol. iii. pp.361, 
362., there is an account given of the barnacle, " a 
well-known kind of shell-fish, which is found stick- 
ing on the bottoms of ships," and with regard to 
which the author observes, that " it seems hardly 
credible in this enlightened age, that so gross an 
error in natural history should so long have pre- 
vailed," as that this shell-fish should become changed 
into " a species of goose." The author then quotes 
Holinshed, Hall, Virgidemiarum, Mars ton, and 
Gerard ; but he does not make the slightest refer- 
ence to Giraldus Cambrensis, who in his Topogra- 
phialIibemi<B first gave the account of the barnacle, 
and of that account the writers referred to by 
Brand were manifestly but the copyists. 

The passage referring to "the barnacle" will be 
found in the Topog.Hiber. lib. i. c. xi. I annex a 
translation of it, as it may be considered interest- 
ing, when compared with the passages quoted in 
Brand : 

" There are," says Giraldus, "in this country (Ire- 
land) a great number of birds called barnacles (13er- 
nacre), and which nature produces in a manner that is 
contrary to the laws of nature. These birds are not 
unlike to ducks, but they are somewhat smaller in size. 
They make their first appearance as drops of gum upon 
the branches of firs that are immersed in running waters; 
and then they are next seen hanging like sea-weed from 
the wood, becoming encased in shells, which at last 
assume in their growth the outward form of birds, and 
so hang on by their beaks until they are completely 
covered with feathers within their shells, and when they 
arrive at maturity, they either drop into the waters, or 
take their flight at once into the air. Thus from the 
juice of this tree, combined with the water, are they 
generated and receive their nutriment until they are 
formed and fledged. / have many times with my own 
eyes seen several thousands of minute little bodies of these 
birds attached to pieces of wood immersed in the sea, encased 
in their shells, and already formed. These, then, are 
birds that never lay eggs, and are never hatched from 
eggs ; and the consequence is, that in some parts of 
Ireland, and at those seasons of fasting when meat is 
forbidden, bishops and other religious persons feed on 
these birds, because they are not fish, nor to be regarded 



[No. 8. 

as flesh meat. And who can marvel that this should 
be so ? When our first parent was made of mud, can 
we be surprised that a bird should be born of a tree ? " 
The notion of the barnacle being considered a 
fish is, I am aware, one that still prevails on the 
western coast of Ireland ; for I remember a friend 
of mine, who had spent a few weeks in Kerry, 
telling me of the astonishment he experienced upon 
seeing pious Roman Catholics eating barnacles on 
Fridays, and being assured that they were nothing 
else than fishes ! My friend added that they had 
certainly a most "fish -like flavour," and were, 
therefore, very nasty birds. W. B. 


Mr. Editor, I beg to add my protest to your 
own, respecting the conclusion drawn by your 
valuable correspondent W. as to his competency 
to his arduous task, which no person could doubt 
who knows him. My remarks had reference to 
the supposed scribe of the catalogue, whose brains, 
according to W., were in some degree of confusion 
at times. His name is still in obscuro, it seems. 
"Henno Rusticus" is clear. W., 'I trust, will 
accept my apology. I say with Brutus, verbis 
paulo mutatis 

" By heaven, I had rather coin my heart, 
And drop my blood for drachmas, than to plant 
In the kind bosom of a friend a thorn, 
By any indirection." 



Sir, Amongst the books wanted in your sixth 
number is " a Tract or Sermon" of the Rev. Wm. 
Stephens. It is a sermon, and one of four, all of 
which are far above the ordinary run of sermons, 
and deserving of a place in every clergyman's 
library. They are rarely met with together, though 
separately they turn up now and then upon book 
stalls amongst miscellaneous sermons ; it is a pity 
they are not better known, and much is every day 
republished less deserving of preservation. The 
author's widow published her husband's sermons 
in two volumes ; but, strange to say, these, which 
are worth all the rest, are not included in the 
collection. The titles of the four sermons are 

" The Personality and Divinity of the Holy Ghost 
proved from Scripture, and the Anti-Nicene Fathers.' 
Preached before the University of Oxford, St. Matthias 
Day, 1716-17. Third Edition, 1725. 

" The Catholic Doctrine concerning the Union o 
the Two Natures in the One Person of Christ stated 
and vindicated." Preached at the visitation of the 
Bishop of Oxford, 1719. Second Edition, 1722. 

" The Divine Persons One God by an Unity o 
Nature : or, That Our Saviour is One God with His 
Father, by an Eternal Generation from His Substance 

asserted from Scripture and the Anti-Nicene Fathers." 
Preached before the University of Oxford, 1722. 
Second Edition, 1723. 

" The Several Heterodox Hypotheses, concerning 
both the Persons and the Attributes of the Godhead, 
ustly chargeable with more Inconsistencies and Ab- 
surdities than those which have been groundlcssly 
mputed to the Catholic System." Preached at the 
visitation of the Bishop of Exeter, 1724. 

I shall be glad to learn from any of your readers 
whether the author published any other sermons 
or tracts which are not included in the two 
volumes of his sermons. . WM. DENTON. 

Shoreditch, Dec. 11. 1849. 


Sir, In No. 4. of your " NOTES AND QUE- 
RIES" it is asked, if any notice of the tune called 
Roger de Coverlet/ is to be met with earlier than 
1695, when it was printed by H. Playford, in his 
Dancing Master ? I am happy in being able to 
inform your correspondent that the tune in ques- 
tion may be found in a rare little volume in my 
possession, entitled "The Division-Violin, con- 
taining a Choice Collection of Divisions to a Ground 
for the Treble-Violin. Being the first Musick of 
this kind ever published. London, Printed by 
J. P. and are sold by John Playford, near the 
Temple-Church, 1685, small oblong." 

I have every reason to believe, from consider- 
able researches, that no earlier copy can be found 
in print. EDWARD F. RIMBAULT. 


Omission of the Words DEI GRATIA from the new 


Ruding, in his Annals of the. Coinage, iv. 9., fur- 
nishes a precedent for the omission of the words 
DEI GRATIA from the coinage, in the case of the 
Irish half- pence and farthings coined at the Tower 
in 1736-7. And he supplies, also, a precedent 
for the dissatisfaction with which their omission 
from the new florin has been received, in the shape 
of two epigrams written at that time, for which he is 
indebted (as what writer upon any point of English 
literature and history is not) to Sylvanus Urban. 
The first (from the Gentleman's Magazine for 
June, 1837) is as follows: 

" No Christian kings that I can find, 

However match'd or odd, 
Excepting ours, have ever coin'd 
Without the grace of God. 

" By this acknowledgment they show 

The mighty King of Kings, 
As him from whom their riches flow, 
From whom their grandeur springs. 

DEC. 22. 1849.] 



" Come, then, Urania, aid my pen, 

The latent cause assign, 
All other kings are mortal men, 
But GEORGE, 'tis plain, 's divine." 

The next month produced this address : 

" To the Author of the Epigram on the new Irish Half- 

" While you behold th' imperfect coin 
Receiv'd without the grace of God, 
All honest men with you must join, 
And even Britons think it odd. 

" The grace of God was well left out, 

And I applaud the politician; 
For when an evil's done, no doubt, 

'Tis not by God's grace, but permission." 

Grace's Card, the Six of Hearts. 

As a note to the communications which have 
lately amused your readers, respecting the nine of 
diamonds and the curse of Scotland, allow me to 
remind you of another card which has a peculiar 
name, the origin of which is better ascertained. 

At the Revolution of 1688 one of the family 
of Grace, of Courtstown, in Ireland, raised and 
equipped a regiment of foot and a troop of horse, 
at his own expense, for the service of King James, 
whom he further assisted with money and plate, 
amounting, it is said, to 14,OOOZ. He was tempted 
with splendid promises of royal favour, to join the 
party of King William. A written proposal to 
that effect was sent to him by one of the Duke of 
Schomberg's emissaries. Indignant at the insulting 
proposal, the Baron of Courtstown seized a card^ 
which was accidentally lying near him, and wrote 
upon it this answer : " Go, tell your master I 
despise his offer! Tell him that/honour and con- 
science are dearer to a gentleman than all the 
wealth and titles a prince can bestow !" The card 
happened to be the " six of hearts," and to this 
day that card is generally known by the name of 
" Grace's card," in the city of Kilkenny. 

I derive these particulars principally from the 
Memoirs of the Family of Grace, by Sheffield 
Grace, Esq. 4to. London, 1823, p. 42. W. L. 


The following extract from the Issue Roll of 
Easter, 1 Edward III. 1327, may interest the in- 
quirers into the antiquity of the FLORIN, lately 
introduced into our coinage : 

" To Robert dc VVodehouse, keeper of tin 
Wardrobe, for the price of 174 florins from Florence, 
price each florin as purchased, 39^7. paid to the same 
keeper by the hands of John de llouton, his clerk, for 
one pound and one mark of gold, to make oblations 
on the day of the coronation (Tor the Lord the King: 
and in like manner was delivered 10* Horins and a 
mark of 7 Ox. by the kind's command, under the privy 
which w;is used before he received the govern- 
ment of this kingdom, 28. 12. 6." *. 

John Hopkins, the Psalmist. 

Sir, Little is known of the personal history 
of John Hopkins, the coadjutor of Sternhold in 
the translation of the Psalms. It is generally 
agreed that he was a clergyman and a school- 
master in Suffolk, but no one has mentioned in 
what parish of that county he was beneficed. It 
is highly probable that the following notes refer 
to this person, and if so, the deficiency will have 
been supplied by them. 

In Tanner's List of the Rectors of Great Wald- 
ingfield in Suffolk, taken from the Institution 
Book at Norwich, there is this entry : 

" Reg. xix. 55. 12 Aug. 1561. 

Job. Chetham, ad prajs. Willi Spring, Arm. 

Jo. Hopkins. 
168. 3 April, 1571. 
Tho. Cooke, ad pra?s. Edv. Colman, B. D." 

In the Parish Register of Great Waldingfield is 
the following : 

*' Buried, 1570. Mr. John Hopkins, 23rd Oct." 



Genealogy of European Sovereigns. 

Sir, Perhaps the following books will be of 
service to your correspondent Q. X. Z., viz. : 

" A Genealogical History of the present Royal 
Families of Europe, the Stadtholders of the United 
States, and the Succession of the Popes from the 
15th century, &c. &c., by the Rev. Mark Noble." 
London, 1781. 

" Historical and Genealogical, Chronological, 
and Geographical Atlas, exhibiting all the Royal 
Families in Europe, their Origin, Descent, &c., by 
M. Le Sage." London, 1813. 

" Complete Genealogical, Historical, Chrono- 
logical, and Geographical Atlas, &c., by C. V. 
Lavoisne." Philadelphia, 1821, W. J.I3. 

Countess of Pembroke's Letter Dray ton's Poems 
A Flemish Account Bishop Burnet. 

Your correspondent, at p. 28., asks whether 
there is any contemporary copy of the celebrated 
letter, said to have been written by Anne, Count i ss 
of Pembroke, to Sir Joseph Williamson ? I would 
refer him to Mr. Hartley Coleridge's Lives of Dis- 
tinguished Northerns, 1833, p. 290. His arguments 
for considering the letter spurious, if not conclusive, 
are very forcible, but they are too copious for this 

lour readers, who may not be conversant with 
that undeservedly neglected volume, will confess 
their obligation, when they have consulted its 
pages, in having been directed to so valuable and 
so original a work. It may be observed, that those 
letters of the Countess which are authentic, are 
certainly written in a very different style to the 



[No. 8. 

one in question ; but this letter, if addressed by ber 
to Sir Joseph Williamson, would be written under 
peculiar circumstances, and, being in her 84th 
year, she might naturally have asked the assistance 
of the ablest pen within her reach. I have the 
copy of an interesting letter, addressed by the late 
Mr. John Baynes to Ritson, in 1785, stating his 
admiration of the Countess's " spirit and industry, 
having seen the collections made by her order 
relative to the Cliffords such as no other noble 
family in the world can show." 

I join in wishing that Mr. Pickering would add 
a judicious selection from Dray ton's poetical 
works to his Lives of Aldine Poets. To the list 
given by your correspondent (p. 28.), may be 
added a work entitled Ideas Mirrour Amours in 
quatorzaim (London, 1594, 4to. p. 51.), which 
was lent to me about forty years ago, but which I 
have not seen since. Some notice of it, by myself, 
will be found in the Censura Literaria, with the 
following note by Sir C. Brydges : " The ex- 
treme rarity of this publication renders a farther 
account desirable, and also more copious extracts. 
It appears wholly unknown to Herbert, and to all 
the biographers of Drayton." It is unnoticed by 
Ritson also. Chalmers, in his Series of English 
Poets, has referred to this communication, but he 
has not printed the poem amongst Drayton's 

The expression " a Flemish account" is probably 
not of very long standing, as it is not found in 
the most celebrated of our earlier dramatists, un- 
less, indeed, Mrs. Page's remark on FalstafF's letter 
may be cited as an illustration : " What an 
unweighed behaviour hath this Flemish drunkard 
picked out of my conversation, that he dares in this 
manner assay me." 

If the habit of drinking to excess prevailed in 
the Low Countries in the sixteenth century to the 
extent represented, may not the expression have 
arisen from that circumstance, and been equivalent 
to the contempt which is usually entertained for 
the loose or imperfect statements made by a tipsv 
or drunken man ? 

When quoting opinions upon Burnet, we must 
not forget the brief but pregnant character which 
Burke has given of the Bishop's History of his 
Own Times. In his admirable speech at Bristol 
previous to the election in 1780, Burke says, 
" Look into the History of Bishop Burnet ; he is a 
witness without exception." 

^ Dr. Johnson was not so laudatory : " Burnet 
is very entertaining. The style, indeed, is mere 
chit- chut. I do not believe that he intentionally 
lied; but he was so much prejudiced, that he took 
no pains to find out the truth." 

The reader may refer to Dr. Hickes's Criticism 
(Atterbury s Correspondence, i. 492.). Calamy's 

expression is a significant, if not a very compli- 
mentary one, as regards Burnet's candour {Life 
and Times, i. 59.). I. H. M. 

Bath, Dec. 1849. 

Viz., why the contracted form of Videlicet. 
I shall be much obliged if any one of your 
readers can inform me of the principle of the con- 
traction viz. for videlicet, the letter z not being 
at all a component part of the three final syllables 
in the full word. * 

[Is not our correspondent a little mistaken in sup- 
posing that the last letter in "viz." was originally a 
letter z ? Was it not one of the arbitrary marks of 
contraction used by the scribes of the middle ages, and 
being in form something like a "z," came to be repre- 
sented by the early printers by that letter ? In short, 
the sign 5 was a common abbreviation in records for 
terminations, as omnibS for omnibws, hab3 for ha be*. 
Vi5, corruptly viz., is still in use.] 

Authors of Old Plays. 

We are enabled, by the courtesy of several 
correspondents, to answer two of the Queries of 
Q. D., in No. 5. p. 77., respecting the authors of 
certain old plays. 

G.H. B. informs us that Sicily and Naples was 
written by Samuel Harding ; of whom, as we learn 
from J. F. M., an account will be found in Wood's 

NASO informs Q. D. that Nero was written by 
Matthew Gwinne ; there are two editions of it, 
viz. 1603 and 1633, and that a copy of it may 
be procured at 17. Wellington Street. Strand, 
for Is. 

Birthplace of Coverdale. 

Can you inform me of the birthplace of Miles 
Coverdale ? y y > Q t 

[" Bishop Myles Coverdale is supposed to have been 
born m the year of our Lord 1488, in the district of 
Coverdale, in the parish of Coverham, near Middleham, 
in the North Riding of Yorkshire ; and it is the opinion 
ot the learned historian of Richmondshire, that it is an 
assumed, and not a family name." These are the words 
of the Rev. Geo. Pearson, B. D., the very competent 
editor of the works of Bishop Coverdale, published by 
the Parker Society. His reference is to Whitaker's 
iist. of Richmondshire, vol. i. p. 17.1 

Caraccioli Author of Life of Lord Clive. 
t In reply to K.'s query in No. 7., I have to 
inform him that " Charles Caraccioli, Gent." called 
himself "the Master of the Grammar School at 
Arundel, and in 1766 published a very indifferent 
History of the Antiquities of Arundel; and depre 
Bating censure, he says in his preface, " as he (the 
author) was educated, and till within these few 
years has lived abroad, totally unconversant with 
the Lnghsh tongue, he natters himself that the 

DEC. 22. 1849.] 



inaccuracies so frequently interspersed through 
the whole, will be observed with some grains of 
allowance." His Life of Lord Clive was a book- 
sellers compilation. WM. DURRANT COOPER. 


In Rawlinson's Manuscripts in the Bodleian 
(c. 258.), which I take to have been written either 
in, or very soon after, the reign of Henry VIII., 
there is a poem thus entitled : 


Can any of your readers furnish me with inform- 
ation regarding him ? He was clearly a man worthy 
of notice, but although I have looked through as 
many volumes of that period, and afterwards, as I 
could procure, I do not recollect meeting with 
any other mention of him. Skelton, who must 
have been his contemporary, is silent regarding 
him ; and John Heywood, who was also living at 
the same time, makes no allusion to him that I have 
been able to discover. Heywood wrote the " Play 
of Love," but it has nothing to do with the " King's 

The epitaph in question is much in Heywood's 
humorous and satirical style : it is written in the 
English ballad-metre, and consists of seven seven- 
line stanzas, each stanza, as was not unusual with 
Heywood, ending with the same, or nearly the 
same, line. It commences thus : 

" O Love, Love ! on thy sowlc God have mercye ; 
For as Peter is princepa Apostolnrum, 
So to the[e] may be sayd clerlye, 
Of all foolys that ever was stultus stultorum. 
Sure thy sowle is in regna polorum, 

By reason of reason thou haddest none ; 

Yet all foolys be nott dead, though thou be gone." 

In the next stanza we are told, that Love often 
made the King and Queen merry with " many good 
pastimes ;" and in the third, that he was "shaped 
and borne of very nature " for a fool The fourth 
stanza, which mentions Erasmus and Luther, is the 
following : 

" Thou wast nother Erasmus nor Luter ; 
Thou dyds medle no forther than thy potte ; 
Agaynst hye matters thou wast no disputer, 
Amonge the Innocentes electe was thy lotte : 
Glad mayst thou be thou haddyst that knotte, 

For many foolys by the[e] thynkethcm selfe none-, 
Yet all be nott dead, though thou be gone." 

The next stanza speaks of " Dye Apguylamys," 
who is told to prepare the obsequy for Love, and 
of "Lady Apylton," who had ollered a "i; 
penny," and the epitaph ends with these stanzas : 

'* Now, Love, Love ! God have mercy on thy mery 


And Love! God have mercye on thy foolysche face, 
And Love ! God have mercye on thy innocent sowle, 
Which amonges innocentes, I am sure, hath a place, 
Or ellys thy sowle ys yn a hevy case ; 
Ye, ye, and moo foolys many [a] one, 
For foolys be alyve, Love, thoughe thou be gone. 

" Now, God have mercye on us all, 

For wyse and folysche all dyethe, 

Lett us truly to our myndes call ; 

And to say \ve be wyse owr dedes denyethe, 

Wherefore the ende my reason thys aplyethe : 

God amend all foolys that thynke them selfe none, 
For many be alyve, thoughe Love be gone." 

It is very possible that I have overlooked some 
common source of information to which I may be 
referred; and it is very possible also, that this 
epitaph has been reprinted in comparatively modern 
times, and I may not know of it. This is one of 
the points I wish to ascertain. 


[Was there no such person as Love, and does the 
writer mean merely to pun upon the word ? Cupid 
certainly played the fool in the court of Henry VIII. 
as much as any body.] 



I am much obliged by J.F.M.'s answers respect- 
ing those places. If he will look to the Historia 
Eliensis, lib. ii. c. 84, 85. vol. i. pp. 200-204. (Anglia 
Christiana), he may be certain whether or not he 
has correctly designated them. He may at the 
same time, if he be well acquainted with Cam- 
bridgeshire, give me the modern interpretation for 
Watewich, also mentioned in chap. 84. of the Hist. 
Eliens. W. B. M. 


The Advent bells are ringing in many parishes 
throughout various parts of England during this 
month of December, if I may judge from my own 
neighbourhood on the western borders of Berks 
where, at least three times in the week, I hear 
their merry peals break gladsomely upon the dark 
stillness of these cold evenings, from many a 
steeple around. In the Roman States, and the 
kingdom of Naples and Sicily, the "pifferari" go 
about playing on a kind of rough hautboy and 
bag-pipes, before the pictures of the Madonna, 
hung up at the corners of streets and in shops, all 
through Advent time; but why are the church 
bells rung in England ? What reference in ancient 
documents can be pointed out for the meaning or 
antiquity of the usage ? 



[No. 8. 

He who draws upon a joint-stock bank of litera- 
ture as rich as yours, Mr. Editor, already is, should 
bring a something to its capital, though it be a 
mite? Allow me, then, to throw in mine. At 
p. 77. " A SUBSCRIBER " asks, " if William de Bolton 
was an ecclesiastic, how is it that his wife is openly 
mentioned?" For one of these two reasons : 1st. 
By the canon law, whether he be in any of the four 
minor orders, or in any of the three higher or holy 
orders, a man is, and was always, called 'J Cleri- 
cus," but clerks in lower or minor orders did, and 
still do, marry without censure ; 2d. The Church 
did, and still does, allow man and wife to separate 
by free mutual consent, and to bind themselves by 
the vows of perpetual continence and chastity, the 
man going into a monastery, or taking holy orders, 
the woman becoming a nun. Such, I suspect, was 
the case with Sir William de Bolton (" Sir" being 
the ancient title of a priest) and his wife, whose 
joint concurrence in the transfer of property by 
charter would be legally required, if, as is likely, 
she had an interest in it. 

Your correspondent "MusAFiR," while on the 
subject of the Flemish account, p. 74., is in error, in 
assigning to a Count'of Flanders the " old story " 
of the cloaks ; it belongs to Robert, Duke of Nor- 
mandy, who played off the joke at Constantinople 
in the court of the Greek emperor, as Bromton 
tells us (ed. Twysden, i. 911.) CEPHAS. 


Many years ago a Sonnet, by Leigh Hunt, 
characterising the poets, appeared in the Examiner. 
Can any of your readers inform me whether the 
following, which I quote from memory, is correct ? 

C. DAY. 

" Were I to name, out of the times gone by, 
The poets dearest to me, I should say, 
Pulci for spirits, and a fine, free way, 

Chaucer for manners, and a close, silent eye ; 
Spenser for luxury and sweet sylvan play, 
Horace for chatting with from day to day ; 

Milton for classic taste and harp strung high, 

Shakspeare for all but most, society. 

But which take with me could I take but one ? 

Shakspeare, as long as I was unoppress'd 

With the world's weight, making sad thoughts 

intenser ; 
But did I wish out of the common sun 

To lay a wounded heart in leafy rest, 

And dream of things far off and healing Spenser." 


Sir, with thanks for the insertion of my 
former letter, I proceed to submit a few literary 
queries for solution through the medium of your 

In connection with the county of Wilts, I will 
first mention the Literary Collections of the late 
Edward Poore, Esq., of North Tidworth, which I 
examined, with much satisfaction, on my visits to 
him there, in the years 1798 and 1799. Mr. Poore 
was a man of considerable attainments, and cor- 
responded with many distinguished characters, 
both at home and abroad. He travelled over 
many parts of the continent, and his letters and 
notes relating to public and private occurrences and 
persons were remarkably curious and interesting. 
I have long lost all trace of them, and should be 
glad to ascertain where they are likely to be 

An immense boon would be conferred on the 
cause of Architecture and Archaeology by the re- 
covery of Inigo Jones's Sketches and Drawings of 
Ancient Castles. These, together with his Plans, 
Views, and Restorations of Stonehenge, probably 
descended to his nephew, Webb. The latter were 
engraved, and published in Webb's volume on 
Stonehenge; but the Sketches of Castles have 
never yet been published. On the ground of 
Inigo Jones's intimacy with Lord Pembroke, I 
was referred to the library at Wilton as a probable 
depository of his drawings, but without success ; 
as I am informed, they do not form a part of that 
valuable collection. Perhaps I may be allowed to 
correct the error which so commonly ascribes the 
erection of Wilton House to Jones. In the Na- 
tural History of Wiltshire, by John Aubrey, which 
I edited in 1847 (4to.), it is clearly shown that 
the mansion was built in 1633 by, or from the 
designs of, Solomon de Caus, architect, who was 
probably aided by his brother Isaac ; and that it 
was rebuilt in 1648, after an extensive fire, by- 
Webb, who, as is well known, married a niece of 
Inigo Jones. The latter celebrated architect re- 
commended the employment of these parties, and 
probably approved of their designs, but had no 
further share in their production. His advice, 
however, to the Earl of Pembroke, was the means 
of preserving the famous Porch at Wilton, ascribed 
to Hans Holbein, which gives him a peculiar 
claim to the gratitude of all architectural anti- 

I possess a large collection of the manuscript 
journals, papers, drawings, and correspondence of 
Dr. Stukeley. To the kindness of my old friend 
Dr. Ingram, President of Trinity College, Oxford, 
I also owe a large Bronze Medal, with a medallion 
portrait of Stukeley on the obverse, and a view of 
Stonehenge on the reverse. This is evidently a 
cast from moulds, and rather crudely executed, 
and I am induced to regard it as unique. I shall 
be much gratified if any of your correspondents 
can furnish me with a clue to its history, or to the 
name of its maker. I would here venture to 
suggest some inquiry into the biography of 
Charles Bertram, of Copenhagen, who furnished 

DEC. 22. 1849.] 



Dr. Stukeley with the manuscript of the Itinerary 
of Richard of Cirencester, which has led to so 


probably a relative of the Earl of Warwick), into 
whose possession they had unaccountably passed. 


to learn whether Bertram's papers were 
queathed to any public library at Copenhagen. 

Sir James Thornhill was in the habit of making 
sketches and descriptive memoranda in his various 
travels and excursions. Some years ago one of 
his pocket-books was lent to me, in which he had 
not only written notices of the places visited, but 
made very clever pen sketches of several objects. 
Whilst in my possession, I copied many pages, 
and also traced some of the drawings. Among 
the latter is a Market Cross at Ipswich, long since 
destroyed, also the Sessions House and the Custom 
House of Harwich, with various antiquities, &c., 
at Ryswick, Delph, Tournay, Brussels, and the 
Hague. I have often regretted that I did not 
copy the whole volume, as it contained many 
curious facts and anecdotes. I have tried in vain 
to ascertain the name and address of the possessor. 
He was a country gentleman, and lodged in 
Southampton Row, Russell Square. The volume 
is dated 1711, and contains full accounts of build- 
ings and works of art. He says, " Killigrew told 
King Charles that Ipswich had a large river with- 
out water, streets without names, and a town 
without people." 

In July, 1817, I published a small volume en- 
titled Antiquarian and Architectural Memoranda 
relating to Norwich Cathedral, in which were two 
copper-plates, a ground-plan of the church, and a 
view of the west front ; with woodcuts of the font, 
and of the Erpingham gateway, both engraved 
by John Thompson. The plates and cuts were 
sold by auction (by Mr. Southgatc of Fleet Street), 
with the stock of the work, and have been resold 
by the purchaser. I have sought in vain to re- 
obtain the woodcuts, and shall be gratified to find 
that it is still practicable. 

After many years' search for the documents, &c., 
referred to in this and my preceding letter, I am 
still reluctant to abandon their pursuit. That 
valuable collections are sometimes protected from 
destruction, in obscurity, for years, is shown by 
the loss and recovery of the well-known collection 
of Architectural Designs and Drawings by John 
Thorpe, now in the Soane Museum. That sin- 
gular and interesting scries was in the possession 
of the Earl of Warwick, in the latter part of the 
last century. In 1807 I applied to his lordship 
for permission to examine it ; but he informed me 
that Richard Cumberland, the author, had bor- 
rowed it many years before, in order to submit it 
to Lord George Germaine, and that it had not 
since been heard of. Thus, from before 1785, 
when Lord George Germaine died, the drawings 
lost until about thirty yeurs afterwards, when 
I purchased them lor Sir John Soane, at the sale 
of the library of Brooke, Esq., of I'addington 


In Mr. Frederick Devon's Pell Records, vol. iii. 
p. 34., there is an entry in the Issue Roll of Easter, 
41 Henry III. 1257, of a payment. 

" To the Brethren of the Middle Temple, 4. in 
part of 8. appointed alms for the support of three 
chaplains to celebrate divine service, at Easter Term, 
in the 41st year, by writ patent." 

And in p. 88. is the following writ for payment 
at Easter Term, 4 Edward I. 1276 : 

" Pay out of our Treasury, from the day of the death 
of the Lord King Henry, our Father, of renowned 
memory, for each year, to our beloved Master and 
Brethren of the Knights Templars in England, 8. 
which our father granted to them by bis charter to be 
received yearly at our Exchequer, for the support of 
three chaplains, daily for ever, to perform divine 
service in the New Temple, London, one of whom is 
to perform service for our aforesaid father, the other 
for all Christian people, and the third for the faithful 
deceased, as was accustomed to be done in the time of 
our aforesaid father. Witness, &c." 

I presume that there can be no doubt that the 
grant referred to in the last extract is that which 
is mentioned in the first. But if so, what is meant 
by " Brethren of the Middle Temple ? " 

Both entries are before the suppression of the 
order, and it was not till long after the suppression 
that the Temple was occupied by the lawyers as a 
place of study ; nor till long after the establishment 
of lawyers there, that is to say, more than a hun- 
dred years after the date of the first extract, that 
the Temple was divided into two houses, called, as 
now, the Inner Temple and the Middle Temple. 
Added to which, the church of the Temple is in 
that division which is called the Inner Temple. 

Can any of your correspondents favour me with 
the precise words of the original record, or explain 
the meaning of the term used ? 



Henry Lord Dandey. 

Can any of your readers inform me where the ce 
lebrated Darnley, second husband of Mary, Queer 
of Scots, was born? His birth took place ii 
England, where his father, Matthew Stuart, Ear 
of 'Lennox, was residing, being banished fron 
Scotland. Henry VIII. gave the Earl his nieci 
in marriae, and several estates in Yorkshire 

t others, the lands of Jervaux Abbey, ant 
the adjacent manor of West Scrafton. Middlchai: 
(':i>th-', which was then perfect, and belonged to th 
King, lies between these, and was probably at leas 



[No. 8. 

an occasional residence of the Earl, though we hav 
no correct account of its occupants after the deatl 
of Richard III. W. G. M. J. BARKER 

Banks of the Yere, Nov. 28. 1849. 

Coffee, the Lacedaemonian Black Broth. 

Your "Notes on Coffee" in No. 2. reminded m 
I that I had read in some modern author a happy 
conjecture that "coffee" was the principal ingre- 
dient of the celebrated /' Lacedaemonian black 
broth;" but as I did not "make a note of it" at 
the time, and cannot recollect the writer from 
whom I derived this very probable idea, I may 
perhaps be allowed to "make a query" of his 
name and work. R. O. 

Eton, Nov. 26. 1849. 

Letters of Mrs. Chiffinch. 

The Chafins, of Chettle, in Dorsetshire, pos- 
sessed at one time some interesting family memo- 
rials. In the third volume of Hutchins's Dorset, 
pp. 166, 167., are printed two or three letters of 
Thomas Chafin on the battle of Sedgemoor. In a 
manuscript note, Hutchins alludes to letters, 
written by a female member of the family, which 
contain some notices of the court of Charles II. 
Can your Dorsetshire correspondents inform me 
whether these letters exist? 1 suspect that the 
lady was wife of the notorious Chiffinch ; and she 
must have seen and heard strange things. The 
letters may be worthless, and it is possible that 
the family might object to a disclosure of their 
contents. The manuscript memorandum is in 
Gough's copy of the History of Dorset in the 
Bodleian Library. J. J\ M. 

Sangred Dowts of Holy Scripture. 

In the will of John Hedge, of Bury St. Edmund's, 
made in 1504, is this item: 

" I bcqweth to the curat of the seid church iiijs. 
iiij d. for a sangred to be prayed for in the bedroule for 
my soule and all my good ffrends soulls by the space 
of a yeer complete. " 

In the same year Thomas Pakenham, of Ixworth 
Thorpe, bequeathed 6 hives of bees to the sepulchre 
light, " to pray for me and my wyffe in y e comon 
sangered;" and in 1533, Robert Garad, of Ixworth 
bequeathed to the high altar ijs. " for halfe a san- 

Can any of your readers explain what the san- 
gred is? or give me any information about the 

n 7E?. d to , in the followin g extract from the 
will of Wilham Place, Master of St. John's Hos- 
pital, Bury St. Edmund's, made in 1504 : 

" \ ie ' . J he <l wet h to the monastery of Seynt Ed- 
mund forseid my book of the dowtsofHolu Scryptur to 
ly and remain in the cloyster," &c. 


Catsup, Catchup, or Ketchup. 

Will any of your philological readers be so 
obliging as to communicate any note he may have 
touching the origin or definition of the word 
Catchup ? 

It does not appear in Johnson's Dictionary. 
Mr. Todd, in his edition, inserts it with an asterisk, 
denoting it as a new introduction, and under 
Catsup says, see Catchup. Under this latter word 
he says " Sometimes improperly written Ketchup, 
a poignant liquor made from boiled mushrooms, 
mixed with salt, used in cooking to add a pleasant 
flavour to sauces." He gives no derivation of the 
word itself, and yet pronounces the very common 
way of spelling it improper. 

What reference to, or connexion with, mushrooms 
has the word ? and why Catsup, with the inference 
that it is synonymous with Catchup f G. 

" Let me make a Nations Ballads, who will may 
make their Laws ! " 

One perpetually hears this exclamation attri- 
buted to different people. In a magazine which I 
took ^up this morning, I find it set down to " a 
certain orator of the last century ; " a friend who 
is now with me, tells me that it was unquestionably 
the saying of the celebrated Lord Wharton ; and I 
once heard poor Edward Irving, in a sermon, 
quote it as the exclamation of Wallace, or some 
other Scottish patriot. Do relieve my uncertainty, 
and, for the benefit of our rising orators, tell us to 
whom the saying ought to be set down. 


To endeavour Oneself. 

In the Collect for the 2nd Sunday after Easter, 
n the preface to the Confirmation Service, and in 
he form of Ordering of Priests, the verb " en- 
deavour" takes (clearly, I think) a middle- voice 
*orm, "to endeavour one's self." Is there any 
'ther authority for this usage ? No dictionary I 
lave seen recognises it. G. p. 

Date of the Anonymous Ravennas. 
Can you inform me of the date of the Choro- 
*raphia Britannia Anonymi Ravennatis ? W. C. 
[This is a very difficult question. We should be 
glad to hear any of our correspondents upon the 

The Battle of Towton. 

The "Note" on the battle-field of Sedgemoor, 
is a "Query" concerning another equally 
elebrated locality. 

It is well known in the neighbourhood, that the 

d of Towton, at least that part of it which is 

ow, and, according to tradition, has remained 

>asture since the days of the wars of York and 

^ancaster, produces two species of roses, which 

DEC. 22. 1849.] 



grow in stunted patches throughout its extent. 
Has their presence ever been noticed or accounted 
for ? If we again allow tradition to give its evi- 
dence, we are told they were planted on the graves 
of the fallen combatants. PETER H. JENNINGS. 


A Peal of Sells. 

Mr. Editor, The following question was put 
to me by a clergyman and a scholar, who, like 
myself, takes an interest in the subject of Bells. 
At first sight I fancied that a satisfactory answer 
could easily be given : but I found that I was mis- 
taken, and I shall be very glad if any of your 
correspondents will favour me with a solution of 
the difficulty. 

Can you define what is a Peal ? Of course we 
know what is meant by a Peal of Bells, and to 
ring a Peal; but I want it denned as to duration, 
mode of ringing it, &c. &c. None of the old writers 
explain what they mean by ringing a Peal. 


Ecclesfield Vicarage, Dec. 11. 1849. 

Lines quoted by Goethe. 

If any of your readers can inform me who is the 
author of the following lines, quoted by Goethe in 
his Autobiography, he will greatly oblige me : 

" Then old age and experience, hand in hand, 
Lead him to death, and make him understand, 
After a search so painful and so long, 
That all his life he has been in the wrong." 


King's College, Dec. 8. 1849. 

MS. Sermons by Jeremy Taylor. 

I venture to send you the following note, as 
embodying a query, which I am sure deserves, if 
possible, to be answered. 

" Southey, Omniana, i. 251. Coleridge asserts (Lite- 
rary Remains, i. 303.), that there is now extant, in MS., 
a folio volume of unprinted sermons by Jeremy Taylor. 
It would be very interesting to learn in what region 
of the world so great a treasure has been suffered to 
rust during a hundred and fifty years." Willmott's 
Life of Bishop Jeremy Taylor, p. 87. 


Papers of John Wilkes. 

John Wilkes, it is well known, sent to the news- 

Cers copies of Lord Weymouth's and Lord 
rington's Letters respecting the riots in St. 
George's Fields in 1768. We can easily conjec- 
ture how he did, or how he might have, got pos- 
session of a copy of Weymouth's Letter, which 
was addressed to the magistrates of Surrey ; but 
Burrington's Letter was strictly official, and di- 
rected to the " Field officers, in staff waiting, for 
the three regiments of Foot Guards." Has the 
circumstance ever been explained ? If so, where ? 

Can any of your readers inform me the exact date 
of the first publication of Barrington's Letter in the 
newspaper r Is it not time that Wilkes' Letters 
and MSS. were deposited in some of our public 
libraries ? They would throw light on many ob- 
scure points of history. They were left by Miss 
Wilkes to Mr. Elmsley, " to whose judgment and 
delicacy " she confided them. They were subse- 
quently, I believe, in the legal possession of his 
son, the Principal of St. Alban's ; but really of 
Mr. Hallam. W. 

John Ross Machay. 

The following is from a work lately published, 
Chronicles and Characters of the Stock Exchange, 
by John Francis : 

"' The Peace of 1763,' said John Ross Mackay, 
Private Secretary to the Earl of Bute, and afterwards 
Treasurer to the Ordnance, ' was carried through and 
approved by a pecuniary distribution.' " 

Will Mr. Francis, or any of your contributors, 
inform me where I can find the original state- 
ment ? D. 


Dr. Darling is preparing for publication a new 
edition of his Bibliotheca Clericalis, a Guide to 
Authors, Preachers, Students, and Literary Men. 
The object of this very useful publication, which 
deserves to be made a Note of by all who may have 
Queries to solve in connection with the biblio- 
graphy of theology, cannot be better described 
than in Dr. Darling's own words, namely, that 
it is intended to be " a Catalogue of the Books in 
the Clerical Library, greatly enlarged, so as to 
contain every author of any note, ancient and 
modern, in theology, ecclesiastical history, and 
the various departments connected therewith, 
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Mr. Jones, the modeller, of 1 25.Drury Lane, who, 
as our readers may remember, produced some time 



[No. 8. 

since so interesting " a copy in little " of the monu- 
ment of our great bard in the church of Stratford- 
upon-Avon, has just completed similar models of 
Bacon's monument, in St. Michael's Church, St. 
Alban's ; of Sir Isaac Newton's, in the chapel of 
Trinity College, Cambridge ; and, lastly, of that 
of the " Venerable Stow," from the church of St. 
Andrew Undershaft. Many of the admirers of 
those old English worthies will, we doubt not, be 
glad to possess such interesting memorials of 

Mr. Thorpe has published a Catalogue of some 
Interesting, Rare, and Choice Books, which he has 
recently purchased, and which had been collected 
by the celebrated antiquary and author, Browne 
Willis. Many of them contain important manu- 
script notes and anecdotes by him, particularly in 
his own publications ; and the Catalogue, therefore, 
like all which Mr. Thorpe issues, contains nume- 
rous notes highly interesting to bibliographical 
and literary antiquaries. Thus, in a copy of 
Antonini Iter Britanniarum, he tells us Browne 
Willis has inserted the following biographical 
note : 

V " My very worthy friend, Roger Gale, the 
Author of this and many other learned works, dyed at 
his seat at Scruton, co. York, June 26, 1744, aged'about 
72, and was by his own direction buried obscurely in 
the churchyard there." 

The following interesting articles we reprint 
entire, as forming specimens of the rarities which 
Mr. Thorpe offers in the present Catalogue, 
and the tempting manner in which he presents 
them : 


DEFECT OR REPAIR, folio, in old Oxford calf 

binding, from Browne Willis's Library, l05. 


V One of the most interesting specimens of Caxton's 

press No other perfect copy, I believe, has occurred 

tor sale I he Alchorne copy, (imperfect, wanting the 

Epitaph upon Chaucer, WHICH is REPRINTED IN SOME 

EDITIONS OF HIS WORKS, and other leaves,) sold for 

53 . 11, It is one of the earliest productions of the 

other of the English press, and claims a very great 

onal interest from being translated by the Poet 

5n,T l( TrK CAXTON7 g ' 1VeS US the follow ing reasons that 
induced Chaucer to translate, and himself to print it 

to~ be ^nT 1 aS thC S - tUe f [t 1S harde ' and difficile 
worshipful Fader and first founderand ImbeHsherof 
ornate eloquence m our English, I mene Maister 
Geffrey Chaucer, hath translated it out of Latyn, as 
nc>gh as is possible to be understate ; wheHn hi 
myne oppynon, he hath deserved a perpetual Uwde 

and thanke of al this noble Royame of England. 
Thenne, forasmoche as this sayd boke so translated is 
rare, and not spred ne knowen as it is digne and worthy 
for the erudicion of such as ben ignoraunte, atte requeste 
of a singuler frend and gossop of myne, /, William 
Caxton, have done my devoir temprynte it in fourme 
as is hereafore made." 

Dyfferens betwen ye Regall Power and the 
Ecclesiasticall Power, translated out of Latyn 
by Henry Lord Staffbrde, and dedicated by him 
to the. Protector Somerset, foladt IttttV, 8vo. 
fine copy, morocco, gilt edges, EXTREMELY RARE, 
61. Gs. 
Imprinted at the Sign of the Hose Garland, by 

W. Copland, n. d. 

* # * This extraordinarily rare volume was written by 
Edward Fox, Bishop of Hereford, according to Strype 
and Leland see the latter' 's encomium upon it. Lord 
Herbert supposed it to have been written by King 
Henry VIII. It is one of the most interesting and 
rare volumes relative to church history. The noble 
translator states that it was lent him by his friend 
Master Morison, and finding the difference between 
the power regal and ecclesiastical so plainly set out, 
and so purely explained, that rather than his countrie 
should be utterly frustrated of so great fruyte as myght 
growe by redynge thereof, I thought it well-bestowed 
labour to turn it into Englishe. 

HIS PEN'S COMPLAINT, a worke not unpleasant 
to be read, nor unprofitable to be followed, IN 
VERSE, dedicated to George Dowse, 4 to. remark- 
ably fine copy, UNCUT, morocco elegant, gilt edges, 


Imprinted for JR. Howell, 1600. 

^ "V* Th i s curious poem, consisting of 120 verses of 
six lines each, is of SUCH EXTRAORDINARY RARITY, AS 

PHERS. The author is styled by Phillips, in his 
Theatrum Poetarum, as that " fine old Queen Eliza- 
beth's gentleman," and is ranked in the class of poets 
next to Spenser. The present volume acquires an 
additional interest from being the first production of 
the Author, which is thus expressed in the dedication : 
1 hese first fruites of my barren braine, the token of 
my love, the seale of my affection, and the true cog- 
nizance of my unfained affection," &c. 

We have also received Supplements A, B, C, 
and D, the last part issued, of the Catalogue of 
Miscellaneous Books, in various languages, Sn sale 
by Charles Dolman, of 61. New Bond Street, 
which contain many rare and curious works, 
more especially in the department of Foreign 

To these we may add Parts V. and VI. of Cata- 
logues of "Cheap Books, Autographs, &c," on 
ale by Bell 10. Bedford Street, Covent Garden; 
the Cheap Catalogue," Part XXIV, of Thomas 
Cole, 15 Great Turnstile, Holborn; a "Miscel- 
laneous Catalogue of remarkably cheap OldBooks," 
on sale by C. Hamilton, 4. Bridge Place, City 

DEC. 22. 1849.] 



Road; Russell Smith's Catalogue of "Choice, 
Useful, and Curious Books," Part VII., which he 
describes, very justly, as "containing some very 
cheap books ; Parts CV. and CVL of Petheram's, 
94. Hi"h Holborn, " Catalogue of Old and New 
Books, containing, among other things, Collec- 
tions of the works of the various publishing So- 
cieties, such as the Camden, Calvin, Parker, 
Shakspeare, Ray, &c., and also of the Record 
publications; and lastly, which we have just re- 
ceived from the worthy bibliopole of Auld Reekie, 
T. G. Stevenson, his curious " List of Unique, 
Valuable, and Interesting Works, chiefly illustra- 
tive of Scottish History and Antiquities, printed at 
private expense," and " Bannatyniana, Catalogue 
of the privately printed Publications of the Banna- 
tyne Club from MDCCCXXIII. to MDCCCXL.VIII.," 
both of which are well deserving the attention of 
our bibliographical friends. 


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16mo. London (E. Griffin), 1G39. 
ART OF COOKERY, A POEM. Folio. 1708. 

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[No. 9. 

And so, with all the earnestness and heartiness 
which befit this happy season, when 

"No spirit stirs abroad ; 

The nights are wholesome ; when no planet strikes, 
No fairy takes, no witch hath power to charm, 
So hallow'd and so gracious is the time," 
do we greet all our friends, whether contributors 
or readers, with the good old English wish, 



The muniment chests of our old established 
families are seldom without their quota of " house- 
hold books." Goodly collections of these often 
turn up, with records of the expenditure and the 
" doings" of the household, through a period of 
two or more centuries. These documents ^are of 
incalculable value in giving us a complete insight 
into the domestic habits of our ancestors. Many a 
note is there, well calculated to illustrate the pages 
of the dramatist or the biographer, and even the 
accuracy of the historian's statements may often 
be tested by some of the details which find their 
way into these accounts ; as for the more peculiar 
province of the antiquary, there is always a rich 
store of materials. Every change of costume is 
there; the introduction of new commodities, new 
luxuries, and new fashions, the varying prices of 
the passing age. Dress in all its minute details, 
modes of travelling, entertainments, public and 
private amusements, all, with their cost, are 
there ; and last, though not least, touches of indi- 
vidual character ever and anon present them- 
selves with the force of undisguised and undeniable 
truth. Follow the man through his pecuniary 
transactions with his wife and children, his house- 
hold, his tenantry, nay, with himself, and you 
have more of his real character than the biographer 
is usually able to furnish. In this view, a man's 
"household book" becomes an impartial auto- 

1 would venture to suggest that a corner of 
your paper might sometimes be profitably reserved 
for "notes" from these household books; there 
can be little doubt that your numerous readers 
would soon furnish you with abundant contribu- 
tions of most interesting matter. 

While suggesting the idea, there happens to lie 
open before me the account-book of the first Sir 
Edward Dering, commencing with the day on 
which he came of age, when, though his father was 
still living, he felt himself an independent man. 

One of his first steps, however, was to qualify 
this independence by marriage. If family tradition 
be correct, he was as heedless and impetuous in 
this the first important step of his life, as he seems 
to have been in his public career. The lady was 
Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Nicholas Tufton, after- 
wards created Earl of Thanet. 

In almost the first page of his account-book he 
enters all the charges of this marriage, the different 
dresses he provided, his wedding presents, &c. 
As to his bride, the first pleasing intelligence 
which greeted the young knight, after passing his 
pledge to take her for " richer for poorer," was, 
thatthe latter alternative was his. Sir Nicholas 
had jockied the youth out of the promised 
" trousseau," and handed over his daughter to Sir 
Edward, with nothing but a few shillings in her 
purse. She came unfurnished with even decent 
apparel, and her new lord had to supply her 
forthwith with necessary clothing. In a subsequent 
page, when he comes to detail the purchases which 
he was, in consequence, obliged to make for his 
bride, he gives full vent to his feelings on this 
niggardly conduct of the father, and, in recording 
the costs of his own outfit, his very first words 
have a smack of bitterness in them, which is some- 
what ludicrous 

" Medio de fonte leporum 
Surgit amari aliquid." 

He seems to sigh over his own folly and vanity in 
preparing a gallant bridal for one who met it so 


" My DESPERATE quarter ! the 3d quarter from Mi- 
chaelmas unto New Year's Day. 

5 yards quarter of Scarlett coloured satten for a 
doublett, and to line my cassocke, at 16s. per yard, 

41. 4s. 

5 yards halfe of fine scarlett, at 55*. per yard, to 
make hose cassocke and cloake [ s ' c ] - 14/. 

7 yards dim of blacke rich velvett, att 24*. per yard, 


22 ounces of blacke galloune lace - - 21. 15*. 

Taffaty to line the doublett - - - 17*. 

5 [sic.] grosse of buttons, at 8s. the grosse - 11. 4s. 

pinkinge and racing the doublett, and lininge of y e 
copell - - 8*. 

ffor embroideringe doublett, copell, and scarfe, 2/. 10*. 

5 dozen of small buttons - - - 1*. 8d. 

Stickinge and sowinge silke - - - 14*. 

fFor cuttinge y e scallops - 2s. 

holland to line the hose * 5a. 6d. 

Dutch bays for the hose - - - 4s. 6d. 

Pocketts to y e hose - - - - }Qd. 

2 dozen of checker riband pointes - - 1 2s. 

drawinge y e peeces in y e suite and cloake - 5s. 

canvas and stiffninge to y e doublett - 3*. 6d. 

fFor makinge y e doublett and hose - - 18s. 

makinge y e copell - _ - I/. 8*. 

makinge y e cloake - - , - 9s. 

Sum of this suite - 401. 2s. 

I must not occupy more of your space this week 
by extending these extracts. If likely to supply 
useful " notes" to your readers, they shall have, 
in ^ some future number, the remainder of the 
bridegroom's _ wardrobe. In whatever niggardly 
array the bride came to her lord's arms, lie, at 

DEC. 29. 1849.] 



least, was pranked and decked in all the apparel 
of a young gallant, an exquisite of the first water, 
for this was only one of several rich suits which 
he provided for his marriage outfit ; and then 
follows a list of the costly gloves and presents, 
and all the lavish outlay of this his " desperate 

In some future number, too, if acceptable to 
your readers, you shall be furnished with a list of 
other and better objects of expenditure from this 
household book; for Sir Edward, albeit, as Cla- 
rendon depicts him, the victim of his own vanity, 
was worthy of better fame than it has yet been his 
lot to acquire. 

He was a most accomplished scholar and a 
learned antiquary. He had his foibles, it is true, 
but they were redeemed by qualities of high and 
enduring excellence. The eloquence of his par- 
liamentary speeches has elicited the admiration of 
Southey ; to praise them therefore now were 
superfluous. The noble library which he formed 
at Surrenden, and the invaluable collection of 
charters which he amassed there, during his 
unhappily brief career, testify to his ardour in 
literary pursuits. The library and a large part of 
the MSS. are unhappily dispersed. Of the former, 
all that remains to tell of what it once was, are a 
few scattered notices among the family records, 
and the titles of books, with their cost, as they are 
entered in the weekly accounts of our u household 
book." Of the latter there yet remain a few 
thousand charters and rolls, some of them of great 
interest, with exquisite seals attached. I shall be 
able occasionally to send you a few " notes" on 
these heads, from the " household book," and, in 
contemplating the remains of this the unrivalled 
collection of its day, I can well bespeak the 
sympathy of every true-hearted " Chartist" and 
Bibliographer, in the lament which has often been 
mine " Quanta fuisti cum tanta3 sint reliquiae!" 
Ryarsh Vicarage, D^c. 12. 1849. 


In reply to the query of " B. G." (p. 107. of 
your 7th No.), I beg to say that Bishop Berkeley's ; 
Theory of Vision Vindicated does not occur either 
in the 4to. or 8vo. editions of his collected works ; ; 
but there is a copy of it in the library of Trinity 
College, Dublin, from which I transcribe the full 
title as follows : 

" The Theory of Vision, or Visual Language, shew- 
ing the immediate Presence and Providence of a Deity, 
vindicated and explained. By the author of Alciphron, 
or The Minute Philosopher. 

" Acts, xvii. 28. 

" In Him n-e lire, and move, and have our being. 
" I. oiul. Printed for J. Tonson in the Strand. 


Some other of the author's tracts have also been 
omitted in his collected works ; but, as I am now 
answering " a Query" and not " making a Note" 
I shall reserve what I might say of them for 
another opportunity. The memory of Berkeley 
is dear to every member of this University ; and 
therefore I hope you will permit me to say one 
word, in defence of his character, against Dugald 
Stewart's charge of having been " provoked," by 
Lord Shaftesbury's Characteristics, " to a harshness 
equally unwonted and unwarranted." 

Mr. Stewart can scarcely be supposed to have 
seen the book upon which he pronounces this most 
" unwarranted " criticism. The tract was not 
written in reply to the Characteristics, but was an 
answer to an anonymous letter published in the 
Daily Post-Boy of September 9th, 1732, which 
letter Berkeley has reprinted at the end of his 
pamphlet. The only allusion to the writer of this 
letter which bears the slightest tinge of severity 
occurs at the commencement of the tract. Those 
who will take the trouble of perusing the anony- 
mous letter, will see that it was richly deserved ; 
and I think it can scarcely, with any justice, be 
censured as unbecomingly harsh, or in any degree 
unwarranted. The passage is as follows : 

[After mentioning that an ill state of health had 
prevented his noticing this letter sooner, the author 
adds,] " This would have altogether excused me from a 
controversy upon points either personal or purely spe- 
culative, or from entering the lists with declaimers, 
whom I leave to the triumph of their own passions. 
And indeed, to one of this character, who contradicts 
himself and misrepresents me, what answer can be made 
more than to desire his readers not to take his word 
for what I say, but to use their own eyes, read, ex- 
amine, and judge for themselves? And to their com- 
mon sense 1 appeal." 

The remainder of the tract is occupied with a 
philosophical discussion of the subject in debate, 
in a style as cool and as free from harshness as 
Dugald Stewart could desire, and containing, as 
far as I can see, nothing inconsistent with the 
character of him, who was described by his con- 
temporaries as the possessor of " every virtue 
under heaven." JAMES II. TODD. 

Trin. Coll. Dublin, Dec. 20. 1849. 


Mr. Editor, Allow me, in addition to the Note 
inserted in your 4th Number, in answer to the 
Query of LEGOUR, by your correspondent (and I 
believe my friend) J. G., to give the following ex- 
tract from Forby's Vocabulary of East Anglia: 

" Bishop Barnabee-s. The pretty insect more gene- 
rally called the Lady-bird, or May-bug. It is one of 
those few highly favoured among God's harmless crea- 
tures which superstition protects from wanton injury. 
Some ohscurity seems to hang over this popular name 



[No. 9. 

of it. It has certainly no more relation to the com- 
panion of St. Paul than to drunken Barnaby, though 
some have supposed it has. It is sometimes called 
Bishop Benebee, which may possibly have been intended 
to mean the blessed bee; sometimes Bishop Benetree, of 
which it seems not possible to make any thing. The 
name has most probably been derived from the Barn- 
Bishop; whether in scorn of that silly and profane 
mockery, or in pious commemoration of it, must depend 
on the time of its adoption, before or since the Re- 
formation; and it is not worth inquiring. The two 
words are transposed, and bee annexed as being per- 
haps thought more seemly in such a connection than 
fly-bug or beetle. The dignified ecclesiastics in ancient 
times wore brilliant mixtures of colours in their habits. 
Bishops had scarlet and black, as this insect has on its 
wing-covers. Some remains of the finery of the gravest 
personages still exist on our academical robes of cere- 
mony. There is something inconsistent with the popish 
episcopal character in the childish rhyme with which 
Bishop Barnabee is thrown up and dismissed when he 
happens to light on any one's hand. Unluckily the 
words are not recollected, nor at present recoverable ; 
but the purport of them is to admonish him to fly 
home, and take care of his wife and children, for that 
his house is on fire. Perhaps, indeed, the rhyme has 
been fabricated long since the name by some one who 
did not think of such niceties," G. A. C. 

Sir, In the explanation of the term Bishop 
Barnaby, given by J. G., the prefix " Bishop" 
seems yet to need elucidation. Why should it not 
have arisen from the insect's garb ? The full 
dress gown of the Oxford D.D. scarlet with 
black velvet sleeves might easily have suggested 
the idea of naming the little insect " Dr. Burn 
bug," and the transition is easy to " Dr. Burnabee," 
or " Bishop Burnaby." These little insects, in the 
winter, congregate by thousands in barns for their 
long slumber till the reappearance of genial wea- 
ther, and it is not impossible that, from this cir- 
cumstance, the country people may have desig- 
nated them " Barn bug," or " Barn bee." L. B. L. 
Sir, I cannot inform LEGOUB why the lady- 
bird (the seven-spotted, Coccinella septempunctata, 
is the most common) is called in some places 
" Bishop Barnaby." This little insect is sometimes 
erroneously accused of destroying turnips and peas 
in its larva state; but, in truth," both in the larva 
and perfect state it feeds exclusively on aphides. 
I do not know that it visits dairies, and Tusser's 
" Bishop that burneth," may allude to something 
else ; still there appears some popular connection 
of the CoccinellidcB with cows as well as burning 
for in the West Riding of Yorkshire they are 
called Cush Cow Ladies; and in the North Riding 
one of the children's rhymes anent them runs : 
" Dowdy -co\v, do\vdy-cow, ride away heame, 
Thy* house is burnt, and thy bairns are tean, 
And if thou means to save thy bairns 
Take thy wings and flee away 1" 

* Thy is pronounced as thee. 

The most mischievous urchins are afraid to hurt 
the dowdy-cow, believing if they did evil would 
inevitably befall them. It is tenderly placed on 
the palm of the hand of a girl, if possible and 
the above rhyme recited thrice, during which it 
usually spreads its wings, and at the last word 
flies away. A collection of nursery rhymes relating 
to insects would, I think, be useful. 

W. G. M. J. BARKER. 

[We have received many other communications re- 
specting the epithet of this insect so great a favourite 
with children. ALICUI and several other corre- 
spondents incline to L. B. L.'s opinion that it takes its 
name from a fancied resemblance of its bright wing- 
cases to the episcopal cope or chasuble. J. T. reminds 
us that St. Barnabas has been distinguished of old by 
the title of bright, as in the old proverbial distich in- 
tended to mark the day of his festival according to 
the Old Style (21st June) : 

" Barnaby bright ! 
The longest day and the shortest night." 

While F. E. furnishes us with another and happier 
version of the Norfolk popular rhyme : 

" Bishop, Bishop Barnabee, 
Tell me when my wedding be ; 
If it be to-morrow day, 
Take your wings and fly away ! 
Fly to the east, fly to the west, 
Fly to them that Hove best!" 

The name which this pretty insect bears in the various 
languages of Europe is clearly mythic. In this, as in 
other cases, the Virgin has supplanted Freya; so that 
Freyjuhana and Frouehenge have been changed into 
Marienvoglein, which corresponds with Our Lady's 
Bird. There can, therefore, be little doubt that the 
esteem with which the lady-bird, or Our Lady's cow, 
is still regarded, is a relic o'f the ancient cult.] " 


Sir, I cannot gather from your " Notes" that 
scientific archaeology is included in your plan, nor 
yet, on the other hand, any indications of its ex- 
clusion. Science, however, and especially mathe- 
matical science, has its archseology; and many 
doubtful points of great importance are amongst 
the " vexed questions " that can only be cleared up 
by documentary evidence. That evidence is more 
likely to be found mixed up amongst the masses 
of papers belonging to systematic collectors than 
amongst the papers of mere mathematicians 
amongst men who never destroy a paper because 
they have no present use for it, or because the 
subject does not come within the range of their 
researches, than amongst men who value nothing 
but a " new theorem " or " an improved solution." 

As a general rule I have always habituated my- 
self to preserve every scrap of paper of any remote 
(and indeed recent) period, that had the appearance 
of being written by a literary man, whether I 

DEC. 29. 1849.] 



knew the hand, or understood the circumstances to 
which it referred, or not. Such papers, whether 
we understand them or not, have a, possible value 
to others; and indeed, as ray collections have 
always been at the service of my friends, very few 
indeed have been left in ray hands, and those, pro- 
bably, of no material value. 

I wish this system were generally adopted. 
Papers, occasionally of great historical importance, 
and very often of archaeological interest, would 
thus be preserved, and, what is more, used, as they 
would thus generally find their way into the right 

There are, I fancv, few classes of papers that 
would be so little likely to interest archrcologists 
in general, as those relating to mathematics ; and 
yet such are not unlikely to fall in their way, often 
and largely, if they would take the trouble to se- 
cure them. I will give an example or two, indi- 
cating the kind of papers which are desiderata to 
the mathematical historian. 

1. A letter from Dr. Robert Simson, the editor 
of Euclid and the restorer of the Porisms, to John 
Nourse of the Strand, is missing from an other- 
wise unbroken series, extending from 1 Jan. 1751 
to near the" close of Simson's life. The missing 
letter, as is gathered from a subsequent one, is 
Feb. 5. 1753. A mere letter of business from an 
author to his publisher might not be thought of 
much interest : but it need not be here enforced 
how much of consistency and clearness is often 
conferred upon a scries of circumstances by matter 
which such a letter might contain. This letter, 
too, contains a problem, the nature of which it 
would be interesting to know. It would seem 
that the letter passed into the hands of Dodson, 
editor of the Mathematical Repository : but what 
became of Dodson's papers I could never discover. 
The uses, however, to which such an unpromising 
series of letters have been rendered subservient 
may be seen in the Philosophical Magazine, under 
the title of " Geometry and Geometers," Nos. ii. 
iii. and iv. The letters themselves are in the 
hands of Mr. Maynard, Earl's Court, Leicester 

2. Thomas Simpson (a name venerated by every 
geometer) was one of the scientific men consulted 
bv the committee appointed to decide upon the 
plans for Blackfriars Bridge, in 1759 and 17GO. 

" It is probable," says Dr. Hutton, in his Lifo of 
Simpson, prefixed to the Select Exercises, 1792, " that 
tliis reference to him gave occasion to his turning his 
thoughts more seriously to this subject, so as to form 
the (lesion of composing a regular treatise upon it : for 
his family have often informed me that he laboured 
hard upon this work for some time before his death, 
and was very anxious to have completed it, frequently 
remarking to them that this work, when published, 
would procure him more credit than any of his former 
publications. But he lived not to put the finishing 

hand to it. Whatever he wrote upon this subject pro- 
bably fell, together with all his other remaining papers, 
into the hands of Major Henry Watson, of the En- 
gineers, in the service of the India Company, being in 
all a large chest full of papers. This gentleman had 
been a pupil of Mr. Simpson's, and had lodged in his 
house. After Mr. Simpson's death Mr. Watson pre- 
vailed upon the widow to let him have the papers, pro- 
mising either to give her a sum of money for them, or 
else to print and publish them for her benefit. But 
nothing of the kind was ever done ; this gentleman 
always declaring, when urged on this point by myself 
and others, that no use could be made of any of the 
papers, owing to the very imperfect state in which he 
said they were left. And yet he persisted in his refusal 
to give them up again." 

Iii 1780 Colonel Watson was recalled to India, 
and took out with him one of the most remark- 
able English mathematicians of that day, Reuben 
Burrow. This gentleman had been assistant to 
Dr. Maskelyne at the Royal Observatory ; and to 
his care was, in fact, committed the celebrated 
Schehallien experiments and observations. He 
died in India, and, I believe, all his papers which 
reached England, as well as several of his letters, 
are in my possession. This, however, is no further 
of consequence in the present matter, than to give 
authority to a remark I am about to cjuote from 
one of his letters to his most intimate friend, Isaac 
Dalby. In this he says : " Colonel Watson has 
out here a work of Simpson's on bridges, very 
complete and original." 

It was no doubt by his dread of the sleepless 
watch of Hutton, that so unscrupulous a person 
as Colonel Watson is proved to be, was deterred 
from publishing Simpson's work as his own. 

The desideratum here is, of course, to find what 
became of Colonel Watson's papers ; and then to 
ascertain whether this and what other writings of 
Simpson's are amongst them. A really good work 
on the mathematical theory of bridges, if such is 
ever to exist, has yet to be published. It is, at 
the same time, very likely that his great originality, 
and his wonderful sagacity in all his investiga- 
tions, would not fail him in this ; and possibly a 
better work on the subject was composed ninety 
years ago than has yet seen the light involving, 
perhaps, the germs of a totally new and more 
effective method of investigation. 

I have, I fear, already trespassed too far upon 
your space for a single letter ; and will, therefore, 
defer my notice of a few other desiderata till a 
future day. T. S. D. 

Shooter's Hill, Dec. 15. 1849. 



The song in your second number, furnished by 
a correspondent, and considered to be in the style 



[No. 9. 

of Suckling, is of a class common enough in the 
time of Charles I. George Wither, rather than 
Suckling I consider as the head of a race of poets 
peculiar to that age, as " Shall I wasting in Des- 
pair" may be regarded as the type of this class ot 
poems. The present instance I do not think of 
very b>h merit, and certainly not good enough 
for Suckling. Such as it is, however, with a few 
unimportant variations, it may be found at page 
101. of the 1st vol. of The Hive, a Collection of 
the most celebrated Songs. My copy is the 2nd 
edit. London, 1724. 

I will, with your permission, take this oppor- 
tunity of setting Mr. Dyce right with regard to a 
passage in the Two Noble Kinsmen, m which he is 
only Fess wrong than all his predecessors. It is to 
be found in the second scene of the fourth act, and 
is as follows : 

" Here Love himself sits smiling: 

Just such another wanton Ganymede 

Set Jove afire with," &c. 

One editor proposed to amend this by inserting 
the nominative "he" after "Ganymede;" and 
another by omitting " with " after " afire." Mr. 
Dyce saw' that both these must be wrong, as 
a comparison between two wanton Ganymedes, 
one of which sat in the countenance of Arcite, 
could never have been intended ; another, some- 
thing, if not Ganymede, was wanted, and he, there- 
fore, has this note : " The construction and 
meaning are ' With just such another smile (which 
is understood from the preceding ' smiling') 
wanton Ganymede set Jove afire.' " When there 
is a choice of nouns to make intelligible sense, how 
can that one be understood which is not expressed ? 
It might be "with just such another Love " but, 
as I shall shortly show, no conjecture on the sub- 
ject is needed. The older editors were so fond of 
mending passages, that they did not take ordinary 
pains to understand them; and in this instance 
they have been so successful in sticking the epithet 
" wanton " to Ganymede, that even Mr. Dyce, 
with his clear sight, did not see that the very word 
he wanted was the next word before him. It puts 
one in mind of a man looking for his spectacles who 
has them already across his nose. " Wanton" is a 
noun as well as an adjective; and, to prevent it 
from being mistaken for an epithet applied to 
Ganymede, it will in future be necessary to place 
after it a comma, when the passage will read 
thus : 

" Here Love himself sits smiling : 
Just such another wanton," (as the aforesaid smiling 

Love) " Ganymede 
Set Jove afire with," &c. 

The third act of the same play commences thus : 

" The duke has lost Hippolita ; each took 
A several land." 

Mr. Dyce suspects that for "land" we should 
read " laund," an old form of lawn. "Land" 
beino- either wrong, or having a sense not under- 
stood now, we must fall back on the general sense 
of the passage. When people go a hunting, and 
don't keep together, it is very probable that they 
may take a several " direction." Now hand means 
"direction," as we say "to the right" or "left 
hand." Is it not, therefore, probable, that we should 
read " a several hand ? " SAMUEL HICKSON. 


It would require more space than you could 
allot to the subject, to explain, at much length, 
" the origin, as well as the date, of the intro- 
duction of the term ' Gothic? as applied to pointed 
styles of ecclesiastical architecture," required by 
R. Vincent, of Winchester, in your Fourth Num- 
ber. There can be no doubt that the term was 
used at first contemptuously, and in derision, by 
those who were ambitious to imitate and revive 
the Grecian orders of architecture, after the re- 
vival of classical literature. But, without citing 
many authorities, such as Christopher Wren, and 
others, who lent their aid in depreciating the old 
mediseval style, which they termed Gothic, as sy- 
nonymous with every thing that was barbarous 
and rude, it may be sufficient to refer to the cele- 
brated Treatise of Sir Henry Wotton, entitled 
The Elements of Architecture, 4to., printed in 
London so early as 1624. This work was so popu- 
lar, that it was translated into Latin, and annexed 
to the works of Vitruvius, as well as to Freart's 
Parallel of the Ancient Architecture with the Mo- 
dern. Dufresnoy, also, who divided his time be- 
tween poetry and painting, and whose work on 
the latter art was rendered popular in this coun- 
try by Dryden's translation, uses the term " Go- 
thique" in a bad sense. But it was a strange 
misapplication of the term to use it for the pointed 
style, in contradistinction to the circular, formerly 
called Saxon, now Norman, Romanesque, &c. 
These latter styles, like the Lombardic, Italian, 
and the Byzantine, of course belong more to the 
Gothic period then the light and elegant struc- 
tures of the pointed order which succeeded them. 
Felibien, the French author of the Lives of Archi- 
tects, divides Gothic architecture into two distinct 
kinds the massive and the light; and as the 
latter superseded the former, the term Gothic, 
which had been originally applied to both kinds, 
seems to have been^restricted improperly to the 
latter only. As there is now, happily, no fear of 
the word being understood in a bad sense, there 
seems to be no longer any objection to the use of 
it in a good one, whatever terms may be used to 
discriminate all the varieties of the style observ- 
able either at home or abroad. J. I. 

Trinity College, Oxford. 

DEC. 29. 1849.] 




Mr. Editor, On pp. 63. and 78. of your 
columns inquiry is made for Burney's Treatise on 
Music (not his History). Before correspondents 
trouble you with their wants, I think they should 
be certain that the books they inquire for have 
existence. Dr. Burney never published, or wrote, 
a Treatise on Music. His only works on the sub- 
ject (the General History of Music excepted) are 
the following : 

" The Present State of Music in France and Italy. 
8vo. 1771. 

" The Present State of Music in Germany, the 
Netherlands, and United Provinces. 2 vols. 8vo. 

" An Account of the Musical Performances in West- 
minster Abbey, and the Pantheon, &c. in Commemo- 
ration of Handel. 4to. 1785. 

" A Plan for the Formation of a Musical Academy. 
8vo. n. d." 

As your " NOTES AND QUERIES " will become a 
standard book of reference, strict accuracy on all 
points is the grand desideratum. 


P. S. I might, perhaps, have included in the 
above list the Life of Metastasio, which, although 
not generally classed among musical works, forms 
an admirable supplement to the General History 
of Music. E. F. R. 


Judging from the various notices in your 
Nos. 3, 5, and 6, the dishes and inscriptions men- 
tioned therein by CLBRICUS, L.S.B., &c., pp. 44. 73. 
87., are likely to cause as much speculation here as 
they have some time experienced on the continent. 
They were there principally figured and discussed 
in the Curiositaten, a miscellaneous periodical, 
conducted from about 1818 to 1825, by Vulpius, 
brother-in-law of Gothe, librarian to the Grand 
Duke of Saxe Weimar. Ilerr v. Strombeck, Judge 
of the Supreme Court of Appeal at Wolfenbuttel, 
first noticed them from a specimen belonging to 
the church of a suppressed convent at Sterterheim 
near Brunswick, and they were subsequently 
pounced upon by Joseph v. Hammer (now v. 
Purg.stall), the learned Orientalist of Vienna, as 
one of the principal proofs which he adduced in 
his Mysterim Baphometis llevelatum in one of 
the numbers of the Fundgruben (Mines) des 
Orients, for the monstrous impieties and impurities 
which he, Nicolai, and others, falsely attributed to 
tin- Templars. Comments upon these dishes occur 
in other works of a recent period, but having left 
my portfolio, concerning them, with other papers, 
on the continent, I give these hasty notices en- 
tirely from memory. They are by no means 
uncommon now in England, as the notices of your 

correspondents prove. A paper on three varieties 
of them at Hull was read in 1829, to the Hull 
Literary and Philosophical Society. In Nash's 
Worcestershire one is depicted full size, and a 
reduced copy given about this period in the Gen- 
tlemans Magazine, and Nash first calls them 
" Offertory Dishes." The Germans call them Tauf- 
bccken, or baptismal basins ; but I believe the 
English denomination more correct, as I have a 
distinct recollection of seeing, in a Catholic convent 
at Danzig, a similar one placed on Good Friday 
before the tomb of the interred image of the 
Saviour, for the oblations for which it was not too 
large. Another of them is kept npon the altar of 
Boroughbridge Church (N. Riding of Yorkshire), 
but sadly worn down by scrubbing to keep it 
bright, and the attempt at a copy of the Inscription 
in a Harrowgate Guide is felicitously ludicrous : it 
is there taken as a relic of the Roman Isurium on 
the same spot. Three others were observed some 
years ago in a neglected nook of the sacristy of 
York Cathedral. At the last meeting of the 
Institute at Salisbury, a number of these were 
exhibited in St. John s House there, but I believe 
without any notice taken of them in its Proceedings ; 
and another was shown to the Archaeological So- 
ciety, at their last Chester Congress, by Colonel 
Biddulph, at Chirk Castle ; when more were men- 
tioned by the visitors as in their possession, anxious 
as your correspondents to know the import of the 
inscriptions. They are sometimes seen exposed in 
the shops of Wardour Street, and in other curiosity 
shops of the metropolis. 

On their sunken centres all have religious types : 
the most common is the temptation of Eve ; the 
next in frequency, the Annunciation ; the Spies 
sent by Joshua returning with an immense bunch 
of grapes suspended betwixt them, is not unfre- 
quent ; but non-scriptural subjects, as the Mar- 
tyrdom of St. Sebastian, mentioned by L. S. B., is 
a variety I have not before observed. 

The inscriptions vary, and are sometimes double 
in two concentral rings. The most usual is that 
alluded to by your correspondents, and though ob- 
viously German, neither old nor obsolete ; having 
been viewed even by native decipherers, through 
the mist of a preconceived hypothesis, have never 
yet been by them satisfactorily accounted for. It is 
always repeated four times, evidently from the 
same slightly curved die ; when, however, the en- 
larged circumference of the circle required more 
than this fourfold repetition to go round it, the 
die was set on again for as much of a fifth im- 
pression as was necessary : this was seldom more 
than four or five letters, which, as pleonastic or 
ntercalary, are to be carefully rejected in reading 
the rest; their introduction has confused many 

The readings of some of your correspondents 
who understand German is pretty near the truth. 



[No. 9. 

I have before said that the centre type of Eve's 
Temptation is the most common, and to it the 
words especially refer, and seem at the place of 
their manufacture (most probably Nuremburg) to 
have been used for other centres without any 
regard to its fitness. The letters, as I can safely 
aver from some very perfect specimens, are 


in modern German " der Seelen Infried wort" To 
the German scholar the two latter words only 
require explanation. Infrid for Unfried, discord, 
disturbance, any thing in opposition to Frieden or 
peace. The Frid-stools at Beverley, Ripon, and 
Hexham, still bear the old theotisc stamp. Wart, 
or ward, may be either the past tense of werden, 
to be (our was), or an old form of wdhren, to en- 
dure, to last : our English wear is the same word. 
The sense is pretty much the same in both read- 
ings alluding to Eve. In the first : 

(By her) the soul's disturbance came (was). 
By the second : 

(Through her) the soul's disturbance continues. 
I may here observe that the words ICH WART are 
particularly distinct on a helmet, pictured in the 
Journal of the British Archaeological Association, 
which the Secretary, Mr. Plancbe, in such matters 
the highest authority, regards as a tilting helmet. 
It may there have been in the original ICH WARTE, 
meaning I bide (my time). 

But the centres and this inscription are the 
least difficulty. A second, frequently met with, 
is by far more puzzling. I could not give your 
readers any idea of it without a drawing : however 
it is found imperfectly depicted on the plates I 
have before mentioned in Nash's Worcestershire, 
and the Gentleman's Magazine, and I think I re- 
collect also a very rude copy in a volume of 
Hearnes Miscellaneous Works, which I examined 
in the Gottmgen Library, but whether belonrrino- 
to the work or a MS. addition I cannot aow cafi 
to mind. The fanciful and flowery form of its 
letters gives great scope to the imagination in 
assigning them their particular position in the 
alphabet, and the difficulty of reading them is en- 
hanced by the doubts of German archaeologists 
whether they are initials or component parts of a 
sentence. Herr Joseph v. Hammer PuigSaH, how- 
ever, m his version KECORD DE sci GNSI, or in full 
Recordamim de sancta Gnosi, deduces thence his 
principal proof of Gnostic heresy amongst the 
calumniated Templars, in which I am sony to say 
he has been too servilely followed in England : e.g. 
by Mr Godfrey Higgins, in his posthumous Ana- 

7^' r (P ' 7 3 )te) / a8 Wel1 as ^ E. G. Addison, 
7 he Temple Church (p. 57), and by Mr. R. W 
Billings more especially, who tacks to his accoun 
of this bnlding an "Essay on the symbolical Evi- 
dences of (he Temple Church, where the Templars 
are proved Gnostic Idolaters, as alleged by Edward 

Clarkson, Esq." Had the learnedly hypothetic 
Austrian seen the engravings of the Crypt at Can- 
terbury Cathedral (Archaologia, viii. p. 74.), and 
Ledwick's remarks on it in conjunction with the 
carvings atGlendalloch {History of Ireland, p. 174.), 
or those of Grymbald's Crypt at Oxford, he might 
have been expected to have attributed their mon- 
strosities to his order, with as little hesitation and 
as thorough a contempt of chronology, or proved 
connection, as he has the curious and innocent 
sculptures of the church at Schongrabern in Bo- 
hemia (vide Curio sitaten, vol. viii. p. 501.). 



Prince Madoc. At p. 57., "ANGLO-CAMBRIAN" 
refers to the Report of the Proceedings of the 
British Association at Swansea, in Aug. 1848, 
extracted from the Athenceum newspaper. In the 
course of a discussion which took place on Prof. 
Elton's address, it was observed (if I recollect 
rightly) by the learned Dr. Latham, that a vocabu- 
lary of the so-called Welsh-Indian dialect has 
been formed, and that it contains no trace of any 
Celtic root. J. M. T. 

December 10. 1849. 

St. Barnabas. About the time of the Reforma- 
tion, it was strongly debated whether the festival 
days of St. Paul and St. Barnabas should be ad- 
mitted into the calendar ; and, in the 2d Book of 
K. Edward, the Conversion of St. Paul is put 
down in black, and St. Barnabas is omitted alto- 
gether! No wonder, therefore, if, in Suffolk, 
liberties were taken with the name of St. Barna- 
bas, and it was transferred to doggerel rhyme, to 
be repeated by children. J. I. 

Register of Cromwell's Baptism. The commu- 
nication of your correspondent C. W. G. at p. 103. 
of your last number, induces me to offer you the 
inclosed copy from the Register of All Saints' 
Church, Huntingdon, of the birth and baptism of 
Oliver Cromwell : 

Anno Domini 1599 Oliverus films Roberti Crom- 
well generosi et Elisabethae huxoris ejus Natus vice- 
simo quinto die Aprilis et Baptisatus vicesimo nono 
ejusdem mensis." 

Then follow the words "England's plague for 
many years," written in a different hand. R. O. 

The Times. A correspondent (NASO) informs 
us of the following fact in the history of this 
widely circulated and influential journal ; namely, 
that it is stated in that paper of the 12th of March, 
1788, that it was printed " Logographically ! " We 
wish our correspondent had furnished us with the 
precise words of this very curious statement. 

DEC. 29. 1849.] 



Roland Monoux. I have in my possession a 
brass monumental plate, said to have been taken 
from some church in Middlesex, and bearing the 
following lines, engraved in black letter : 
" Behold what droupinge Dethe maye doe, consume 

y* corse to duste, 
What Dethe maie not shall lyue for aye, in spite of 

Dethe his luste; 
Thoughe Rouland Monoux shrowdeth here, yet 

Uouland Monoux lives, 
His helpynge hand to nedys want, a fame for ever 

geves ; 
Hys worde and dede was ever one, his credyth never 

His zeall' to Christ was stronge, tylP dethe w tb latest 

pang? asaylde. 
Twyse thre and one he Children had, two sones, one 

kepes his name. 
And dowghters fyve for home he carde, y* lyve in 

honest fame. 
What booteth more, as he be kynde dyd come of 

Jentyll race, 
So Rouland Monoux good DesertC this grave can 

not Deface." 

(N. B. C is the contraction for C5.) 

I should be obliged to any of your readers for 
some account of this Rouland Monoux, and when 
he died. I may also add, that I should be very 
willing to restore the brass to its original site, did 
I know the spot from whence it has been sacri- 
legiously torn. CD. 

Wessel Cup Hymn. The following Wassail 
Song is taken from a little chap-book printed at 
Manchester, called A Selection of Christmas Hymns. 
It is obviously a corrupted version of a much older 
song : 

" Here we come a wesseling, 

Among the leaves so green, 
Here we come a wandering, 
So fair to be seen. 

" Cho. Love and joy come to you, 
And to your wessel too, 
And God send you a happy new year, 
A new year, 
And God send you a happy new year. 

Our wessel cup is made of the rosemary tree, 
So is your beer of the best barley. 

" We are not daily beggars, 

That beg from door to door, 

But we are neighbours' children, 

Whom you have seen before. 

" Call up the butler of this house, 

Pi.t on his golden ring, 
Let him bring us up a glass of beer, 
And the better \ve shall sing. 

" We have got a little purse, * 

Made of stretching leather skin, 
We want a little of your money, 
To line it well within. 

" Bring us out a table. 

And spread it with a cloth, 
Bring us out a mouldy cheese, 

And some of your Christmas loaf. 
** God bless the master of this house, 

Likewise the mistress too, 
And all the little children, 
That round the table go. 

" Good master and mistress, 

While you'r sitting by the fire, 
Pray think of us poor children, 
Who are wand'ring in the mire. 

' Cho. Love and joy come to you, 
And to your wessel too, 
And God send you a happy new year. 
A new year, 
And God send you a happy new year. 

Our wessel cup is made of the rosemary tree, 
So is your beer of the best barley." 

It is a song of the season which well deserves to 
be preserved. Its insertion will at least have 
that effect, and may be the means of our discover- 
ing an earlier and purer text. 


Portrait of Charles /. In Sir Henry Ellis's 
Original Letters, 2d scries, vol. iii. p. 254., amongst 
the prefatory matter to the reign of Charles I., 
there is notice of a sermon, entitled " The Sub- 
ject's Sorrow, or Lamentations upon the Death of 
Britaine's Josiah, King Charles." 

Sir Henry Ellis says it is expressly stated, in 
this sermon, that the King himself desired " that 
unto his Golden Manual might be prefixed his 
representation, kneeling ; contemning a temporal 
crown, holding our blessed Saviour's crown of 
thorns, and aspiring unto an eternal crown of 

Note b. upon this passage is as follows : 

" This very portrait of King Charles the First, en- 
graved by Marshall, adorned the original edition of the 
Efo&v BcunAiK^. 8vo. 1648. The same portrait, a* 
large as life, in oil painting, was afterwards put tip in 
many of our churches." 

When I was a boy, such a portrait, in oil paint- 
ing, hung upon the south wall of the body of 
St. Michael's Church, Cambridge, between the 
pulpit and a small door to the west, leading into 
the south aisle. 

Out of the window of the chamber in which the 
King was kneeling was represented a storm at 
sea, (and a ship being driven by it upon some 

A few years ago, upon visiting Cambridge, I 
went purposely to St. Michael's Church to see this 
picture, which had been so familiar to me in my 
boyhood. The clerk told me it had been taken 
down, and was in the vestry. In the vestry I 
found it, on its side, on the floor against the wall. 



[No. 9. 

You are probably aware that this St. Michael's 
Church was nearly destroyed by fire not many 
weeks since; that a committee is established to 
arrange its restoration. 

Would it not be worth while that some inquiry 
should be made about the fate of this picture ? 

Dec. 17. 1849. K. O. 

P. S. I may add, that there was affixed to the 
bottom of the frame of the picture a board, on 
which was painted, in conformably large letters 

" LORD, remember David and all his trouble." 

Psalm cxxxii. 1. 

The italics in part of the Note above quoted 
are mine. 

Autograph Mottoes of Richard Duke of Glou- 
cester, and Henry Duke of Buckingham. In the 
volume of the Cottonian MSS. marked Vespasian 
F. xiii., at fol. 53., is a slip of parchment, upon 
which is written, by the hands of Richard Duke 
of Gloucester, and Henry Duke of Buckingham, 
the following couplet : 

" Loyaulte me lie ~\ 
Richard GloucestreJ 

" Souente me souene ~| 
Harre Bokingh a m."J 

A fac-sirnile is engraved in Autographs of 
Royal, Noble, Learned, and Remarkable Personages 
in English History, engraved by C. J. Smith, and 
edited by Mr. John Gough Nichols, 1829, 4to., 
where the editor suggests that this slip of parch- 
ment was " perhaps a deceitful toy," or it may 
have been attached to some present offered by the 
Duke of Gloucester to his royal nephew Edward 
the Fifth. The meaning of Gloucester's motto is 
perfectly free from misapprehension; but he as- 
serts his fidelity to the crown, which he soon so 
flagrantly outraged " Loyalty binds me." In the 
work above mentioned, the motto of Buckingham 
is interpreted by these words, in modern French : 
" Souvent me souviens." This does not appear 
to me perfectly satisfactory; and I have to request 
the opinions of such as are conversant with old 
manuscripts, whether the true meaning, or even 
the true reading, of the Duke of Buckingham's 
motto has as yet been ascertained ? H. 


LordErskines Brooms. "G. B." informs us, 
that the anecdote about Lord Erskine's brooms, 
and the apprehension of his servant for sellino- 
them without a license, will be found in his Life 
by Lord Campbell (Lives of the Chancellors, vol. 
vi. p. 618.). Erskme himself attended the ses- 
sions to plead the man's cause, and contended that 
the brooms were agricultural produce, or, as he 

jocosely observed, " came under the sweeping 
clause." The when is about 1807, and the where, 
an estate in Sussex, which proved rather an un- 
profitable speculation to its owner, as it produced 
nothing but birch trees, and those but stunted 
ones. To which information " W. J." adds, that 
about the same period Lord Erskine printed, for 
private circulation, An Appeal in favour of the 
agricultural Services of Rooks ; a production pro- 
bably scarce now, but full of humanity, and very 

Scarborough Warning. In a postscript to a 
letter written from court on the 19th January, 
1603, by Toby Matthew, Bishop of Durham, to 
Hutton, Archbishop of York, I find the term 
Scarborough learning. Can any of the corre- 
spondents of your valuable paper inform me of the 
origin and prevalence of this saving ? The post- 


script is * 

" When I was in the middest of this discourse, I 
received a message from my lord chamberlaine, that it 
was his majesty's pleasure that 1 should preach before 
him upon Sunday next; which Scarborough warning 
did not only perplex me, but so puzzel me, as no mer- 
vail if somewhat be pretermitted, which otherwise I 
might have better remembered." 

Quoted in Cardwell's Conferences, p. 166. 

W. M. C. 

[NARES tells us, that Ray, on the authority of Fuller, 
states that this saying took its origin from " Thomas 
Stafford, who, in the reign of Mary, A. D. 1557, with a 
small company, seized on Scarborough Castle (utterly 
destitute of provision for resistance), before the towns- 
men had the least notice of their approach ; " hut shows 
that it was probably much older, as, in a ballad written 
by J. Hey wood on the taking of that place by Stafford, 
the following more probable origin is given to the 

" This term Scarborow warning grew (some say), 

By hasty hanging for rank robbery theare. 
Who that was met, but suspect in that way, 

Straight he was trust up, whatever he were." 
This implies that Scarborough imitated the Halifax 
gibbet law. Is any thing known of such a privilege 
being claimed or exercised by the men of Scarborough? 
We should be glad to hear from any local antiquary 
upon this point.] 

Gray's Elegy. In answer to your corre- 
spondent, J. F. M. (p. 101.), who asks for informa- 
tion respecting the competition for the best 
translation of Gray's Elegy, in which Dr. Sparke 
was a candidate, I would beg to refer him to the 
satirical poem attributed to Mr. T. J. Mathias, 
formerly Fellow of Trinity College, Cambridge, 
entitled The Pursuits of Literature, in which a 
ludicrous account is given of the affair. It, does 
not appear who offered the prize, but Mr. Nares, 
the editor of The British Critic, was the judge, 
and the place of meeting " The Musical Room in 

DEC. 29. 1849.] 



Hanover Square," which was decorated for the 
occasion with appropriate scenery at least so 
says The Critic. He thus describes the solemnity 
(p. 174. 8th edit. 1798): 

" Lo, learned clerks in sable stole, 
Graceful in years, pant eager for the goal. 
Old Norbury starts, and, with the seventh-form boys, 
In weeds of Greek the church -yard's peace annoys, 
With classic Weston, Charley Coote and Tew, 
In dismal dance about the mournful yew. 
But first in notes Sicilian placed on high, 
Bates sounds the soft preluding symphony ; 
And in sad cadence, as the bands condense. 
The curfew tolls the knell of parting sense." 

The distribution of prizes is thus recorded, Dr. 
Norbury being apparently the "conqueror:" 

" Nares rising paused ; then gave, the contest done, 
To Weston, Taylor's Hymns and Alcipliron, 
And Rochester's Address to lemans loose ; 
To Tew, Parr's Sermon and the game of goose ; 
To Coote the foolscap, as the best relief 
A dean could hope ; last to the hoary chief 
He filled a cup ; then placed on Norhury's hack 
The Sunday suit of customary black. 
The gabbling ceased ; with fixed and serious look 
Gray glanced from high, and owned his rival, COOK." 

Lincoln's Inn, Dec. 17. 

Coffee, the Lacedaemonian Black Broth. Your 
correspondent " R. O." inquires what modern au- 
thor suggests the probability of coffee being the 
black broth of the Lacedemonians ? The sug- 
gestion, I think, originated with George Sandys, 
the translator of Ovid's Metamorphoses. Sandys 
travelled in the Turkish empire in 1610. He first 
published his Notes in 1615. The following is 
from the 6th edit. 1652, p. 52. : 

" Although they be destitute of taverns, yet have 
they their coffa-houses, which something resemble 
them. There sit they, chatting most of the day, and 
sip of a drink called coffa (of the berry that it is made 
of), in little China dishes, as hot as they can suffer it ; 
black as soot, and tasting not much unlike it (why 
not that black broth which was in use among the 
Lacedaemonians?) which helpcth, as they say, digestion, 
and procureth alacrity," &c. 

Burton also {Anatomy of Melancholy) describes 
it as "like that black drink which was in use 
amon^ the Lacedaemonians, and perhaps the 
same. E. B. PBICE. 


It would be an interesting fact if we could 
ascertain the last bondsman by blood nativus de 
fiinitiinf who lived in - 

personal villenage. In the celebrated argument 
in the case of the negro Somerset {State Trials, 
vol. xx. p. 41.), an instance as late as 1617 18 is 
cited as the latest in our law books. (See Noy's 
Reports, p. 27.) It is probably the latest recorded 
claim, but it is observable that the claim failed, 
and that the supposed villain was adjudged to be 
a free man. I can supply the names of three who 
were living near Brighton in the year 1617, and 
whose thraldom does not appear to have been 
disputed. Norden, from whose unpublished Survey 
of certain Crown Manors I have extracted the fol- 
lowing notice, adverts to the fact, but seems to 
think that the times were rather unfavourable to 
any attempt by the lord of the manor to put his 
rights in force. 

" There are three bondmen of bloude belonginge 
unto this manor, never known to be anie way mannu- 
missed, namely, Thomas Goringe, William and John 
Goringe. Thomas Goringe dwells at. Amberley, Wil- 
liam at Fiddinghow, and John Goringe at Rottingdean. 
What goods they have the Jurie know not. All poor 
men. Thomas hath the reversion of a cotage now in 
the tenure of William Jefferye. But mee thinkes this 
kinde of advantage is nowe out of season ; yet, were 
they men of ability, they might be, upon some consi- 
deration, infraunchized." {Survey of the Manor of 
f aimer, Sussex.") 

I shall be glad to know whether any more recent 
instance can be pointed out. E. SMIRKE. 

this country. The be- 
<>f the seventeenth century is the period 
usually referred to as the date of the extinction of 


In Herbert's edition of Ames's Typographical 
Antiquities, 1785, vol. i. p. 492., is noticed The 
Dore of Holy Scripture, 12mo., printed by John 
Gowghe in 1536; and, at p. 494., a reprint of the 
same work is mentioned in 1540, by the same 
printer, and a description of a copy given from one 
then in the possession of Herbert himself. In the 
preface prefixed by the printer, he calls the work 
" the prologue of the fyrste translatoure of the 
byble out of latyn in to Englyshe;" and at the 
end of the work is this note : " Perused by 
doctor Taylor and doctor Barons, Master Ceton 
and Master Tornor." As I am much interested 
in the subject to which this publication refers, 
may I ask for information on three points? 1. 
What evidence is there of this edition of 1536, 
beyond the statement in Ames ? 2. What has 
become of the copy of the edition of 1540, formerly 
belonging to Herbert? and, 3. Who are the per- 
sons who peruse and revise the latter edition ? 
There is no copy of either edition, as far as I can 
trace, in the British Museum, in the Bodleian, or 
at Lambeth. 

I may add to these queries the following re- 
marks : 

1. Ames asserted that The Dore of Holy Scrip- 
ture was among the books prohibited to be read 



[No. 9. 

by the injunctions of Henry the Eighth, and re- 
feVs, as his authority, to Foxe's Acts and Monu- 
ments, ed. 1562, p. 574. Herbert, in a note, 
questions the fact, and raises a doubt as to the 
existence of the passage in Foxe, since it is not in 
the edition of 1641. I have, however, the first 
edition now before me of 1563 (not 1562), and at 
p. 574., among " the names of certen bokes whiche 
after this injunction [namely, of 1539], or some 
other in the said kinges dayes were prohybited," 
occurs, " Item, the doore of holy scripture, made 
by Jhon. Gowghe." 

2. This work was again printed by Crowley in 
1550, 12mo., under a "different title, namely, The 
Pathway to Perfect Knowledge ; and, in a preface, 
he falsely ascribes it to John Wycliffe, and adds, 
"the original whereof is in an olde English Bible, 
betwixt the Olde Testament and the JSTewe, which 
Bible remaineth now in the Kyng his Maiesties 
chamber." This Bible appears to be the iden- 
tical manuscript copy of the later Wycliffire 
version of the Scriptures, now preserved in the 
University Library, Cambridge, and marked Mm 2. 
15. A copy of Crowley's edition is in the British 
Museum, but the orthography and language of the 
tract are modernised. F. M. 

B. M., Dec. 19. 


On April 6. 1708, Mr. Henry Turner was elected, 
by the vestry, organist of St. Margaret's, West- 
minster, in the room of the famous "Father Smith" 
(Bernard Schmidt). As regards his musical capa- 
bilities, Hawkins does not assign him a niche in 
his Temple of Worthies, although he names some of 
his predecessors and successors in that office. One 
merit we must accord him, that of true antiquarian 
love and zeal in all matters regarding " this re- 
nowned city." " Great materials are said to have 
been collected for a full description (of West- 
minster), by a parish-clerk of St. Margaret's. I 
presume this is Henry Turner, mentioned in Wid- 
more's Account of the Writers of the History of 

Westminster Abbey His book was only a survey 

of the city of Westminster, purposely omitting the 
history of the (collegiate) church." Gough, 
Brit. Top. vol. i. p. 761. Lond. 1780. "The 
man's natural parts were very good ; he was also 
very diligent in making inquiries relating to his 
subject, and he had collected a great deal." 
Widmore's Ace. of Writers of the Hist, of Westm. 
Abbey, pp. 6, 7, Lond. 1751 . As regards his per- 
sonal history, I alighted on some curious notes on 
a fly-leaf of a transcript of a register : " Henry 
Turner, borne at Ycarely, Derbyshire, 12. July, 
1679 : married Eliz. Sabin, of S. Clement Danes 
in S e . Marg rts . Westm r . Feb. 26. 1701. by D r 

In 1679 it was discovered that some valuable 
MS. records belonging to the parish, and taken 
out of the Tower of London, had been lost by their 
keeper. This history in its time appears to have 
suffered the same fate. However, there is this 
entry in the Harleian MSS. 7045. fol. 361.: 
" From the learned Dr. Ken net, Dean of Peter- 
borough's Collection. MSS. MS. H. On Aug. 2. 
1708, at Windsor, I read over the History of the 
Parish of St. Margaret's, Westminster, drawn up 
in MS. by one of the parish clerks." Some inte- 
resting extracts follow. Compare Aysc.Add. MSS. 
Brit. Mus. 4163. fol. 5. Bishop Kennet resided 
in St. James's Street, in this parish, and died there 
on Dec. 19. 1728. I have applied in vain for any 
account of this MS. to the librarians of Windsor 
Castle and Eton College. 

Can any of your readers give a clue to its re- 
covery ? Are any aware that this survey, which 
would be valuable now, still exists ? There is an 
instance, as early as the fifteenth century, of the 
union of the offices of lay-clerk and organist in 
St. Margaret's, in the person of one Metyngham, 
and H. Turner also held them at the same time ; 
since, on July 28th, 1713, he was elected parish- 
clerk by the vestry, in " consideration of the ex- 
perience they had of his fitness and diligence in 
executing the office of deputy-clerk of thfs parish 
for several years last past;" and he did not resign 
the place of organist until 2nd October, 1718. 

May I make another Query? The gold chain 
and crucifix, laid in the grave of K. Edward the 
Confessor, were removed by Charles Taylor, and 
given into the hands of King James II. On the 
reverse of the same cross was pictured a Bene- 
dictine monk, in his habit, and on each side of him 
these capital Roman letters, 

On the right limb thus : and on the left thus : 

(A) P. 

Z. A. X A. C. 

A H. 

Antiq. of St. Peters, vol. ii. App.n. iij, Ed. 1722. 
What does this inscription mean ? Is the for- 
mer portion to be understood "A. n. Zw/j ayiuv 
What is the import of the latter ? 



Many years back, "Prince" Louis Napoleon 
was stated to be in possession of the talisman 
of Charlemagne ; " a small nut, in a gold filigree 
envelopment, found round the neck of that mo- 
narch on the opening of his tomb, and given by 
the town of Aachen (Aix-la-Chapelle) to Buona- 
parte, and by him to his favourite Hortense, tide- 
vant Queen of Holland, at whose death it descended 
to her son," the present President of the French 

DEC. 29. 1849.] 



The Germans have a curious legend connected 
with this talisman. It was framed by some of the 
magi in the train of the ambassadors of Aaroun-al- 
Kasehid to the mighty Emperor of the West, at the 
instance of his spouse Fastrada, with the virtue 
that her husband should be always fascinated 
towards the person or thing on which it was. The 
constant love of Charles to this his spouse was 
the consequence ; but, as it was not taken from 
her finger after death, the affection of the emperor 
was continued unchanging to the corpse, which he 
would on no account allow to be interred, even 
when it became offensive. His confessor, having 
some knowledge of the occult sciences, at last drew 
off the amulet from the inanimate body, which was 
then permitted to be buried ; but he retained pos- 
session of it himself, and thence became Charles's 
chief favourite and prime minister, till he had 
been promoted to the highest ecclesiastical dignity, 
as Archbishop of Mainz and Chancellor of the 
Empire. At this pitch of power, whether he 
thought he could rise no higher, or scruples of 
conscience were awakened by the hierarchical 
vows, he would hold the heathen charm no longer, 
and he threw it into a lake not far from his metro- 
politan seat, where the town of Ingethiiin now 
stands. The regard and affection of the monarch 
were immediately diverted from the monk, and 
all men, to the country surrounding the lake ; and 
he determined on building there a magnificent 
palace for his constant residence, and robbed all 
the ancient royal and imperial residences, even to 
the distance of llavenna, in Italy, to adorn it. 
Here he subsequently resided and died: but it 
seems the charm had a passive as well as an active 
power ; his throes of death were long and violent ; 
and though dissolution seemed every moment im- 
pending, still he lingered in ceaseless agony, till 
the Archbishop, who was called to his bed-side to 
administer the last sacred rites, perceiving the 
cause, caused the lake to be dragged, and, silently 
restoring the talisman to the person of the dying 
monarch, his struggling soul parted quietly away. 
The grave was opened by the third Otto in 997, 
and possibly the town of Aachen may have been 
thought the proper depository of the powerful 
drug, to be by them surrendered to one who was 
believed by many, as he believed himself to be, a 
second Charlemagne. 

So much for the introduction to the following 
Queries : 1 . Can any of your readers say whether 
this amulet is still in possession of the President 
of the French Republic ? 2. If so, might not the 
lu'lievers in the doctrines of Sympathy attribute 
the votes of the six millions who, in Dec. 1848, 
voted in favour of his election, to the sympathetic 
iulluenre of his " nut in gold filigree," and be 
justified in looking upon those who voted for his 
rivals as no true Franks? It was originally con- 
cocted for a Frankish monarch of pure blood, and 

may be supposed to exercise its potency only on 
those of genuine descent and untainted lineage. 



I entirely concur in the opinion of your able 
correspondent, Mr. P. Cunningham, that Pepys's 
Diary is well deserving all the illustrative light 
which may be reflected upon it from your useful 
pages. In submitting the following Query, how- 
ever, my object is to glean a scrap of information 
on a point connected with the neglected topo- 
graphy of the east end of London, taking Pepys 
for my text. In the Diary, the entry for January 
15th, 1660-61, contains this passage: 

" We took barge and went to Blackwall, and viewed 
the Dock and the new west Dock which is newly 
made there, and a brave new merchantman which is 
to be launched shortly, and they say to be called the 
Royal Oake. Hence we walked to Dick Shoare, and 
thence to the Towre, and so home." Vol. i n 178 
new Ed. 

I shall be glad to learn from any of your read- 
ers what part of the northern bank of the river 
between Blackwall and the Tower, was called 
Dick Shore. It is not marked on any of the old 
maps of London I have been able to consult; but 
it was probably beyond the most easterly point 
generally shown within their limits. The modern 
maps present no trace of the locality in question 

The dock-yard visited by Pepys was long one 
of the most considerable private ship-buildin<r 
establishments in England. For many years it 
was conducted by Mr. Perry, and subsequent!? 
under the firm of Wigrams and Green, the pro- 
perty having been purchased by the late Sir 
Robert Wigram, Bart. The extensive premises 
are still applied to the same use; but they have 
been divided to form two distinct yards, conducted 
by separate firms. 

The origin of the name (Isle of Dogs), given to 
the marshy tract of land lying within the bold 
curve of the Thames between Blackwall and Lime- 
house, is still undetermined. The common story 
is, that it received its name from the king's hounds 
having been kept there during the residence of 
the royal family at Greenwich. This tradition is 
wholly unsupported ; nor is it very probable that 
the king's hounds would be kennelled in this un- 
genial and inconvenient place, while they could 
be kept on the Kentish side of the river, in the 
vicinity of Greenwich Castle, then occupying the 
site of the present Observatory. 

The denominations "isle" and "island" appear 
to have been bestowed on many places not geo- 
graphically entitled to them. The Isle of !)<>,.< 
before pie Construction of the canal which now 
crosses its isthmus, was in fact a peninsula. Pepys 



[No. 9. 

spent a night in the " Isle of Doggs," as appears 
by his entry for July 24th, 1665, and again, on 
the 31st of the same month, he was compelled to 
wait in the " unlucky Isle of Doggs, in a chill 
place, the morning cool and wind fresh, above two 
if not three hours, to his great discontent." 

To the account of Katherine Pegg, given by 
your correspondents, pp. 90, 91, may be added, 
that, besides Charles Fitz-Charles, Earl of Ply- 
mouth, she had, by Charles II., a daughter, who 
died in her infancy. Mrs. Pegg was one of the 
three wives of Sir Edward Greene, of Sampford 
(not Samford), near Thaxted, Essex, created a 
baronet 26th July, 1660 (within two months of 
the Restoration), to whom she seems to have been 
not unfitly matched ; for it is recorded of him that, 
" by his extravagancy and love of gambling, he 
entirely ruined his estate, and his Lirge inherit- 
ance passed from his family." He had issue two 
daughters, Avho married. See Burke's Extinct 

I do not think that Katherine Pegg, whose son 
by the King was born in 1657, was " the pretty 
woman newly come called Pegg," saluted by Pepys, 
7th May, 1668, as Mr. Cunningham surmises. 




The Strand May pole. " E.F.R." inquires what 
was the ultimate fate of the " tall Maypole" which 
" once o'erlooked the Strand" ? It was taken 
down about the year 1717, when it was found to 
measure a hundred feet. It was obtained by Sir 
Isaac Newton, and borne on a carriage, for timber, 
to Wanstead, in Essex, the seat of the Earl of 
Tylney, where, under the direction of the Reverend 
Mr. Pound Breton, it was placed in the Park, for 
the erection of a telescope, the largest then in the 
world, presented by a French gentleman to the 
Royal Society. 

To Fettle. AVhat is the derivation of the verb 
" to fettle ?" In the North it means to amend 
to repair to put a thing, which is out of order, 
into such a state as to effectuate, or to be effectual 
for, its original, or a given purpose ; e. g. a cart 
out of order is sent to the wheelwright's to be 
fettled. It has been suggested that the word is a 
verbalised corruption of the. word " effectual." 
Bailey, in his Dictionary, has designated it as a 
north country word: but it is evident that he 
misunderstood its entire meaning; for he has 
merely " to fettle to," and seems to have been 
ignorant of the use of the word " fettle" as a verb 
active. To revert to my former example of its 
use An injured cart is fettled by the wheel- 
wright; the wheelwright fettles the injured cart. 

L. C. R. 

Greek Verse. Can any of your readers inform 
me who is the author of the line 

" IIoAAai uev StVf)Tois y\rrai, /if a 5' aQavaroiai " ? 


Dr. Dee's Petition to James I. " E. F. R." 

states that he has lately discovered, in the lining 
of an ancient trunk, two or three curious broad- 
sides, one of which purports to be Dr. Dee's petition 
to James L, 1604, against the report raised against 
him, namelv, " That he is or hath bin a Conjurer 
and Caller, "or Invocator of Divels." He would be 
glad to know whether this curious broadside has 
been printed in any memoir of Dr. Dee. 

VondeTs Lucifer. " F." desires to be informed 
whether the tragedy or dramatic poem Lucifer, of 
the Dutch poet Vondel, which has been said to 
bear some analogy to Paradise Lost, has ever been 
translated ? and if not, why not ? The French 
writer, Alfred de Tigny, in Stella, calls Vondel 
(Wundel in his spelling) "ce vieux Shakspeare 
de la Hollande." 

Discurs Modest. In Bishop Andrewes' Reply 
to the Apology of Bellarmine, chap. i. p. 7, ed. 4to. 
London, 1610, certain Jesuits in prison are re- 
ported to have confessed, Rem transubstantiationis 
patres ne attigisse modem ; as authority for which 
is quoted Discurs Modest, p. 13. From this work 
apparently the passage is copied by Jeremy Taylor, 
Real Presence, sect. 12. 16; Dissuasive, part i. 
chap. 1. 5. and part 2. book 2. sect. 3. 3 ; also 
by Cosin on Transubstantiation, chap. 6. 17. Can 
any of your readers favour me with a clue to the 
Modest Discourse ? " A. T. 

Ptolemy of Alexandria. "QUERY" wishes to 
be informed what works of Ptolemy of Alexandria 
are to be met with in an English translation. 

Vanbrugh' s London Improvements. In the 
London Journal of March 16th, 1722-3, there is 
the following paragraph : 

" We are informed that Sir John Vanbrugh, in his 
scheme for new paving the cities of London and West- 
minster, among other things, proposes a tax on all 
gentlemen's coaches, to stop all channels in the streets, 
and to carry all the water off by drains and common 
sewers under ground." 

Sir John Vanbrugh was chiefly known as an 
architect of noblemen's and gentlemen's mansions. 
Can any of your readers supply me with a refer- 
ence to any detailed plan, from Sir John, for the 
general improvement of the metropolis ? B. M. 

Bechcfs Grace- Cup. The inscription round 
the neck of this so-called cup, of which a re- 
presentation is given in No. I. of Mr. Scott's 
Antiquarian Gleanings, is thus printed by him 
GOD*FERARE : to which he adds, in expla- 
nation, " probably the name of the goldsmith." 

DEC. 29. 1849.] 



At the foot of an earlier print of this relic, the 
inscription is given thus FERARE GOD and 
till the appearance of Mr. Scott's version, I had 
considered the former word as an accidental error 
of the engraver, instead of FEARE ; which would 
present a moral motto, suiting the SOBRII ESTOTE 
round the lid. As Mr. Nichols, in his recent 
interesting work on Pilgrimages to Wahingham 
and Canterbury, noticing the misnomer of the 
cup (p. 229, n.), indicates its date to be of " the 
early part of the sixteenth century," perhaps some 
one of your well-informed readers could state if 
any artist-goldsmith of that era, and of that name, 
be known. ALICUI. 

Sir Henry Herbert's Office- Hook. I should be 
glad to know if any of your readers can tell me 
the " whereabouts " of Sir Henry Herbert's Office- 
Book, a MS. frequently referred to by Malone, 
Chalmers, and Collier. Sir Henry Herbert was 
Master of the Revels to King James the First, and 
the two succeeding kings, and the said MS. con- 
tains an account of almost every piece exhibited 
at any of the theatres from August, 1623, to the 
commencement of the rebellion in 1641. Malone, 
in his Historical Account of the English Stage 
(edit. Boswell, iii. 57.), says, in a note 

" For the use of this very curious and valuable 
manuscript I am indebted to Francis Ingram, of 
Ribbisford, near Bewdley, in Worcestershire, Esq., 
Deputy Remembrancer in the Court of Exchequer. 
It has lately been found in the same old chest which 
contained the manuscript Memoirs of Lord Herbert of 
Cherbury, from which Mr. Walpole, about twenty years 
ago, printed the life of that nobleman, who was elder 
brother to Sir Henry Herbert." 

In another place, Malone adds : 

" This valuable manuscript, having lain for a con- 
siderable time in a damp place, is unfortunately 
damaged, and in a very mouldering condition : how- 
ever, no material part of it appears to have perished." 

Such being the case, it becomes more than ever 
desirable that this interesting volume should be 
sought after, and the whole of its contents put on 
record before its total decay. Surely, if its de- 
positary is known, and accessible, it is well worth 
the attention of the Shakspeare Society, or some 
other learned body instituted for the preservation 
of documents of this nature. 

A biographical account of the various persons 
that have held the appointment of " Master of the 
Revels," with such particulars of the stage as 
would necessarily fall in, would form a valuable 
Prolegomena to the publication of Sir Henry's 
Office-Book. We have, it is true, much informa- 
tion upon this subject, but in a very scattered 

I li:ive now before me a list of the " Ma- 
tin- Krvi'lls," with the dates of their patents, 
which I beg to transcribe. It is of more than 

ordinary value, being in the handwriting of Sir 
Henry Herbert himself, and copied at the back of 
the worthy knight's " Petition to Charles the 
Second against the Grant to Killegrew and Dave- 
nant to form Two Companies of Players." 

" Masters of ye Revells. 
" Sir Richard Guilford - not on record. 

Sir Thomas Cawerden - [1544] 36 Henry VIII. 

Sir Thomas Beneger - not on record. 

Sir John Fortescue - not on record. 

Edmund Tilney, Esq. - July 24 [1578] 21 Eliz. 

Sir George Buck - - June 23 [1603] 1 Jac. 

Sir John Astley - - [1612] 10 Jac. I. 

Benjamin Johnson - [1617] 15 Jac. I. 




(In continuation of Lists informer Not.) 

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NOTES : Page 

Travelling of Old in England - 145 

Song by Dr Strode, &c., by E. F. Rimbault - - 146 

Olloh the Scribe - - t - - 147 

Wives of Ecclesiastics - - - - 147 

Na-. Lee s Certificate in favour of Versos - - 149 

The expression " Mutual Friend," by Rev. Dr. Kennedy 149 

Gray's Klegy, Polyglot Editions of - - 150 

Notes upon Cunningham's London, by E. F. Rimbault 150 

On Authors and Books, No. 3., by Boiton Corney - 151 

Cartwright's Poems - - - - 151 


Oliver Cromwell's Birth The Lawyer's Patron Saint 

V. Bourne to Daid Cook A Nation's Uallad- 
Makers Ogilby's Britannia A Mess Coffee To 
endeavour Oneself Countess of Pembroke's Letter 

Peal of Bells Dowis of Holy Scrypture Weeping 
Cross - - - - - - 151 


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Was the Lacedzmonian Bl ick Broth Bl.ick - - 155 

Reheting, Rehetours, l>y Rev. J. H. Todd, P.D. - 155 

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Notices to Correspondents .... 159 


- 1GO 


I do not know any where a more distinct account 
of the commencement and progress of a journey 
in England, two centuries ago, than is given in 
Taylor's (the Water-poet) narrative, in prose and 
verse, of his travels from London to the Isle of 
"Wight, while Charles I. was there. It is short, 
as well as clear, and the stages, and the time it 
took to perform them, are one after another 
pointed out. Moreover, he states that the jour- 
ney wus performed in a public coach drawn by 
four horses, and conducted by two coachmen. 
There were four passengers besides Taylor, and 
they started from the Rose, near Holborn Bridge, 
in the Southampton coach (which came weekly to 
that inn), on Thursday, 19th October, 1647, and 
arrived on the same "evening, at 5 o'clock, at 
Staines. They remained all night at the Bush, 
and next morning proc-fi-d.-d by Hag>ht to Alton, 
where they put up at the White Hart, and again 
slept. On Saturday they again set oft' early, and 

by dint of "fiery speed" and "foaming bits," they 

i reached the Dolphin at Southampton that day. 

| The Hose, at the foot of Holborn Hill, which I 

j can remember forty years ago, and from which 

j the party set out, has disappeared ; but the Bush, 

at Staines, and the Dolphin, at Southampton, still 

remain. A small part of Taylor's information is 

given in marginal notes, but his text, which, in 

fact, contains all that illustrates the point at issue, 

is the following: 

" We took one coach, two coachmen, and four horses, 
And merrily from London made our courses. 
We wheel'd the top of the heavy hill call'd Holborn, 
(Up which hath been full many a sinful soul borne,) 
And so along we jolted past St. Giles's, 
Which place from Brentford six, or near seven, 

miles is. 

To Staines that night at five o'clock we coasted, 
Where, at the Bush, we had bak'd, boild, and roasted. 
Bright Sol's illustrious rays the day adorning, 
We past Bagshot and Bawwaw Friday morning. 
That night we lodg'd at the White Hart at Alton, 
And had good meat a table with a salt on. 
Next morn \ve rose with blushing-cheek'd Aurora; 
The ways were fair, but not so fair as Flora, 
For Flora was a goddess and a woman, 
And, like the highways, to all men was common. 
Our horses, with the coach which we we: t into, 
Did hurry us amain, through thick and thin too, 
With fiery speed, the foaming bits they champ'd on, 
And brought us to the Dolphin at Southampton." 

The tract from which I quote was printed in 
1648 for the author, who was paid for it, as appears 
by his title-page, in the following manner: 

" When John Taylor hath been from London to the 
Isle of Wight and returned again, and at Ins return he 
do give, or cause to be given, to me a book or pam- 
phlet of true news, and relations of passages, at the 
Island, and to and fro in his journey, I do promise to 
give him, or his assignes, the sum of what 1 please in 
lawful money of England, provided that the said sum 
be not under six pence." 

This, as many are aware, was a usual mode with 
Taylor and some others to pay themselves for their 
expeditions : the Water-poet made many journeys 
of tlu> kind, as may be seen by the list of hfs 
works in the folio of 1630, in which, of course, his 
Travels from London to the Isle of Wight, in 1647, 



[No. 10. 

various others subsequently printed, could 
be included. There is no English author 

not be 

who gives us such minute and curious information 
respecting old customs, edifices, and peculiarities, 
as Taylor, the Water-poet, the contemporary and 
friend of Shakespeare, Ben Jonson, and of nearly 
all our poets and dramatists from the close of the 
reign of Elizabeth to the Restoration. 


As your correspondent G. G. seems fond of in- 
quiring into the modus itinerandi of bygone days, 
and thinks a series of travelling hand-bills would 
be interesting, I send you two, copied from an 
original news-book almost two centuries old, and 
which I believe have never been reprinted. They 
are interesting, as showing not only the snail-like 
pace at which our ancestors were content to travel, 
but also how much they were willing to give for 
the tardy infliction. G. M. 

East Winch, 14 th Dec. 1849. 


" From the 26th day of April, 1658, there will con- 
tinue to go stage coaches from the George Inn without 
Aldersgate, London, unto the several cities and towns, 
for the rates, and at the times, hereafter mentioned and 

" Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. 

" To Salisbury in two days for xx.?. To Blandford 
and Dorchester in two days and half for xxxs. To 
Burput iu three days for xxxs. To Exmaster, Hun- 
nington, and Exeter, in four days for xi,s. To Stam- 
ford in two days for xx*. To Newark in two days and 
a half for xxvs. To Bawtrey in three days for xxxs. 
To Doncaster and Ferribridge for xxxvs. To York 
in four days for XL*. 

" Monday sand Wednesdays to Ockintonand Plimouth 
for L*. Every Monday to Helperby and Northallerton 
for XLVS. To Darneton Ferryhil for L.V. To Durham 
for LVS. To Newcastle for ml. Once every fortnight 
to Edinburgh for iv/. a peece, Mondays. Pwery 
Friday to Wakefield in four days for XLS. 

" All persons who desire to travel unto the cities, 
towns, and roads, herein hereafter mentioned and ex- 
pressed, namely, to Coventry, Litchfield, Stone, Nampt- 
wich, Chester, Warrington, Wiggan, Chorley, Preston, 
Gastang, Lancaster, and Kendal ; and also to Stam- 
ford, Grantham, Newark, Tuxford, Bawtrey, Don- 
caster, Ferribridge, York, Helperby, Northallerton, 
Darneton, Ferryhill, Durham, and Newcastle, Wake- 
field, Leeds, and Hallifax ; and also to Salisbury, 
Blandford, Dorchester, Barput, Exmaster, Hunnington 
and Exeter, Ockinton, Plimouth and Cornwall ; let 
them repair to the George Inn at Holborn Bri'do-e, 
London, and thence they shall be in good coaches 
with good horses, upon every Monday, Wednesday, 

and Friday, at and for reasonable rates." From 

Mercurius Politicus for Thursday, April 8th, 1658. 

" The post-masters on Chester road petitioning, have 
received orders, and do accordingly publish the follow, 
ing Advertisement : 

" All gentlemen, merchants, and others, who have 
occasion to travel between London and Westchester, 
Manchester, and Warrington, or any other town upon 
the road, for the accommodation of trade, dispatch of 
business, and ease of purse, upon every Monday, Wed- 
nesday, and Friday morning, betwixt six and ten of 
the clock at the house of Mr. Christopher Charteris, 
at the sign of the Harts Horns in West Smithfield, and 
post-master there, and at the post-master of Chester, at 
the post-master of Manchester, and at the post-master 
of Warrington, may have a good and able single horse, 
or more, furnished, at threepence the mile, without 
charge of a guide ; and so likewise at the house of Mr. 
Thomas Challenor, post-master at Stone in Stafford- 
shire upon every Tuesday, and Thursday, and Saturday 
mornings to go into London ; and so likewise at all the 
several post-masters upon the road, who will have all 
such set days so many horses with furniture in readi- 
ness to furnish the riders without any stay, to carry 
them to or from any the places aforesaid in four days, 
as well to London, as from thence, and to places nearer 
in less time, according as their occasions shall require, 
they ingaging at first stage where they take horse, for 
the safe delivery of the same to the next intermediate 
stage, and not to ride that horse any further, without 
consent of the post-master by whom he rides, and so 
from stage to stage on their journey's end. 

" All those who intend to ride this way, are desired 
to give a little notice beforehand, if conveniently they 
can, to the several post -masters where they first take 
horse, whereby they may be furnished with so many 
horses as the riders shall require with expedition. 

" This undertaking began the 28th of June, 1658, at 
all the places abovesaid, and so continues by the several 
post-masters." From Mercurius Politicus for Thursday, 
24th June, 1658. 


Many of your readers will remember the beau- 
tiful song in Fletcher's play of The Nice Valour, 
act iii. scene 3., beginning 

" Hence, all you vain delights, 
As short as are the nights 

Wherein you spend your folly ! 
There's nought in this life sweet, 
If man were wise to see 't, 
But only melancholy, 
Oh, sweetest melancholy !" 

Milton was indebted to it for the idea of his II 
Pemeroso ; and Hazlitt calls it " the perfection of 
this kind of writing." 

My object in now calling your attention to it, 
is to point out a copy, hitherto, I believe, unno- 
ticed, among Mulone's MSS. in the Bodleian 
Library. It is entitled, A Song in ye praise of 
Melancholy, and has appended to it, in the hand- 
writing of Malone, the following note : 

" Dr. Strode, the author of this beautiful little piece, 
part of which has been ascribed unjustly to Fletcher, 

JAN. 5. 1850.] 



because it is sung in his Nice Valour, was born about 
the year 1600, and died canon of Christchurch in 1644. 
Milton evidently took the hint of his IS Allegro and 
Penseroso from it." 

The same MS. (marked No. 21. in the Malone 
Catalogue) contains A Song against Melancholy, 

" Returne my joyes and hither bring," 

\vhich I do not remember to have seen in print. 
It is also ascribed to Dr. Strode by Malone. I 
have now before me a curious musical MS. in the \ 
hand-writing of the celebrated Henry Lawes, con- 
taining the music to Dr. Strode's play of The 
Floating Inland, performed by the students of 
Christ Church, Oxford, on the 29th of August, 
1636. It is followed by the two songs in question ; \ 
and, although the name of the author is not given, ! 
the fact of their being written in at the end of 
Dr. Strode's " tragi-comedy," in some measure 
confirms Malone's statement. 

To turn to a different subject, although in some 
degree connected with it, I have great doubts as 
to the authorship of the clever poem entitled Ex- 
ale-tation of Ale, generally attributed to Fletcher's 
" brother in letters," Beaumont. The poem, I am 
aware, is to be found in Beaumont's Poems, and 
may, on that authority, be assigned to him as its 
author ; but about one third of the pieces there 
printed as Beaumont's, are referable to other 
writers, though left undesignated by the editor. 
I have in my library a copy of the poem in ques- 
tion, which may be thus described : " The Ex- 
ale-tation of Ale, the anciant Lickquor of this 
Real me; or a cleare definition of its efficatiotis 
opperation in severall pates, arts, and professions. 
London, printed by T. Badger, 1646. Small 8vo. 
7 leaves." It begins as follows, and contains many 
variations from the copy given in llitson's English 

" Not drunken, nor sober, but neighbour to both, 

I met with a friend in Ales-bury Vale; 
lieu saw by my face that I was in the case 

To speake no great harme of a pot of good ale." 

A MS. note on the title-page of this little tract 
assigns it to Bishop Andrews, but on what autho- 
rity does not appear. Lord Bacon, indeed, tells 
us, "The press hath been injurious to the memory 
of Bishop Andrews, to whom it owed a deep and 
solemn reverence. It hath sent forth a pamphlet 
upon an idle subject, under the venerable name of | 
that great man, who was born- grave and sober; : 
and still farther to aggravate the injury, it hath j 
o to that idle subject the idler title of The \ 
Ex-ale-tation of Ale." Bacon's Works, vol. i. ' 
p. 180. (-(lit. 17:50. Perhaps some of your midi.-rs 
can throw light upon this obscure subject. 



In the note respecting Otloh, on the first page of 
your eighth number, the name of the well-known 
Abbot Hilduznus is twice erroneously printed 
Ililderinus, probably in consequence of my in- 
distinct writing. I will take occasion to add, that 
Graff, in his Diutiska, does not give the whole of 
the interesting old German version of Otloh's 
prayer, but merely corrections of that given by 

It seems that Otloh, in correcting and enlarging 
Willibald's Life of S. Boniface, gave a large 
portion of the Saint's letters ; and therefore the 
editors of the Monumenta Germanics Historica 
(vol. ii.) reprinted Willibald's Life, subjoining 
only Otloh's preface, it being their intention to 
print the whole of S. Boniface's letters in a sub- 
sequent volume. Your readers will have observed 
that our scribe is not remarkable for the elegance 
or correctness of his Latinity, and in this preface 
he adverts to the nodosa et perplexa oratio which 
his task imposed on him ; but he has this Christian 
consolation : " Habeant amatores sapientiro sie- 
cularis Tullium; nos imperiti et ignobiles, de- 
specti et contempt ibiles, sequamur Christum, qui 
non philosophos, sed piscatores elegit discipulos." 

S. W. S. 

[The foregoing furnishes, we trust, a satisfactory 
explanation to the kind remonstrances of our corre- 
spondent, " A SINCERE WELL- WISHER," on the subject 
of Otloh's incorrect Latinity.] 


The following extract will tend to throw some 
light upon the customs formerly prevailing in this 
country as to the marriage of priests. 

In Parkin's continuation of Blomcfield's History 
of Norfolk, vol.xi. p. 114. (edit. 1810), the follow- 
ing passage occurs : 

" Parish of Randworth. It appears from the register 
of Langley Abbey, that there was a contest about the 
church of Pankford's being a chapel belonging to the 
church of Randworth. One of the witnesses deposed 
that he had heard it said from more ancient times, that 
there were two powerful sisters, who enjoyed Rand- 
worth and Pankford, and they quarrelled who should 
take place in Randworth church, that bring the 
church for both townships. Upon which one of the 
sisters built a wooden oratory in Pankford (where 
there is now a stone church) but the rector of Rand- 
worth had all the profit thereof. At length (as the 
neighbours said) a woman named Elswyd, having the 
right of the snid church nnd oratory, married Rnlph, 
chaplain or curate of Stokesby, to whom she gave the 
said church nnd oratory. Uy Elswyd he had a son, 
Ilermer, who enjoyed it." 

This Ralph de Stokesby was instituted in the 
reign of Ilcni-y I., and Ilermcr his son was insti- 
tuted by "William Turbe (or Turbus), Bishop of 
Norwich. Parkin remarks, 



[No. 10. 

" The history above-mentioned of Ralph, the chap- 
Iain's marriage, and his wife's presenting him to the 
rectory, is a piece of antiquity highly valuable, as il 
fully and plainly proves, that in the year 1174, when 
Turbus, the Bishop of Norwich died, the church of 
Rome allowed of the marriage of the clergy, and their 
sons succeeding them in their church preferments, and 
that there was no positive law, either canon or civil, to 
hinder it, as their own records and the register of 
Langley testify. And it is further to be observed that 
one of th'e witnesses in this cause deposed, that he 
knew Ringolf the grandfather, Ralph the son, and 
Hermerus the grandson, all rectors successively of the 
church of Randworth with Pankford chapel annexed, 
and the same thing was also deposed by Ralph, 
chaplain of Randworth, son of Hermer." 

I take the following passage from Henry's His- 
tory of England, vol. viii. p. 36. (edit. 1814) : 

" What were called ipso facto or ipso jure suspensions 
and deprivations (by which those priests who were 
guilty of certain irregularities and vices were declared 
to be suspended from their offices, or deprived of their 
benefices), came first into use in this period (13th cen- 
tury). The first example we meet with of suspension 
and deprivation of this kind is in the constitutions of 
Otho, the Pope's legate, in the synod of London, A. n. 
1237. By the 15th of these constitutions it is decreed, 
that all married priests be ipso jure deprived of their 
benefices, that all their goods, even those which they 
had gotten with their wives, be applied to the use of 
the church, and that their children be incapable of 
church-preferments. But this was an obstinate plague 
(as they called it) which for several centuries baffled 
all the power and cunning of the court of Rome, and 
required extraordinary methods to drive it out of the 
church." C. W. G. 

Instances of married priests are by no means 
of uncommon occurrence in ancient charters, at 
least down to the end of Edward III.; were it 
necessary, I could furnish your correspondent with 
several examples from charters in my possession. 
.The following passage from Sir Koger Twysden's 
Defence of the Church will, I think, supply a satis- 
factory answer to your correspondent. It occurs 
chap. ix. p. 2045. of Professor Corrie's edi- 
tion : 

' For permitting of matrimony to the clergy, it is 

undoubted all here had the liberty of marrying before 

Lanfranc, ,n a council held at Worcester (Winchester 

>te), 10/6, did rather advise than command the 

contrary, which Huntindon (who was himself the son 

of c le in holy orders) says was first prohibited by 

An* in ,1108. But -multi presbyterorum statuta 

i Londomensis . . . postponentes, suas feminas 

retinebam aut certe duxerant quas prius non habebant,' 

that his constitutions came quickly neglected 

--priests both marrying and retayning their wives. . 

ivers constitutions were afterwards made by several 

S eS ^ ' ' e T. 1 ' a r by Stepl ' en L3 "Stn at y Oxfd 
hevdid 81 T? y L y ndewod ^ yet it is manifes 
hey did secretly contract marriage, which some are 

of opinion they continued till towards the end of 
Edward the Third's reign. This I am the rather in- 
duced to believe out of that in Knyghton, that John 
de Athilwerl, clerk, was slain by his wife and servant 
in his own house, at Leicester, 1344, for which fact 
she was burnt and he hanged. Now I conceive, had 
she been only his concubine, or his servant, she had 
not sufferred by the judgment of burning for the 
murder, but hanging only ; neither can I interpret the 
word ' clericus ' for other than one in holy orders pro- 
hibited marriage by the canons of Rome; though I 
know ' large loquendo,' as our Lyndewode hath it, 
' omnes in ecclesia ad divinum officium ordinati,' are 
sometimes so styled ; of which, such as were ' infra 
subdiaconatum ' might retain their wives, but those who 
were in 'subdiaconatu, 5 or above, were to quit them. 
But the canons yet remaining, made at sundry times 
from Lanfranc even to Chichele, by the space of more 
than three hundred years, enough assure us this point 
of celibate was not easily imposed on the English 
clergy, and that such as laid it might take it off 

From the above historical statement we might 
be prepared for the instances of priests' wives 
which every now and then occur in old charters. 

Ryarsh Vicarage. LAMBERT B. LARKING. 

If you do not. think that enough already has 
been said upon this subject, I should be glad to 
direct your attention to a passage from Chaucer 
cited in Campbell's valuable and most interesting 
Lives of the Lord Chancellors (vol. i. p. 259.). 
The noble and learned author gives a conclusive 
answer to your correspondent's difficulty, when, 
writing of William of Wickham, he says 

" It has been supposed that he had early taken 
deacon's orders, because in 1352 he was styled 'clericus,' 
or cl-rli ; but this designation was given to men in civil 
employments, although not in the Church, and hitherto 
he had no ecclesiastical function or benefice. On the 
Gth of December, 1361, he was admitted to the order 
of 'acolyte;' he was ordained subdeacon on 12th 
March, 1362, and priest on 12th June following " 

D of L. O. WM. HARDV. 

On the floor of the chancel of Nutfield church, 
Surrey, are some brass plates representing a man 
n the ordinary civilian's dress, and a lady in a long 
*own by his side, neither of them presenting any 
peculiarities of costume ; under them, however, is 
the following inscription : 

" Orate pro animabus Willielmi Grafton quondam 
clerici hvjus ecclesie et Johanne uxoris ejusdem et 
Johannis filii eorundem, quorum animabus propitietur 
deus. Amen." 

The man has no tonsure. Over them are two coats 
of arms, the one bearing Or, a chevron, the other 
the same impaling a saltire. There is no date on 
the monument, but, from the costume and execu- 
ion, it may be placed somewhere about the year 
1450. The absence of the tonsure and ecclesias- 
tical dress seem to show that William Grafton did 

JAN. 5. 1850.] 



not belong to the higher orders of the clergy ; and 
he most probably either belonged to or discharged 
the offices of some of the inferior grades, such as 
clericus, scholaris, or cantor, to whom marriage j 
was permitted. The only objection to this would i 
be in the armorial bearings, which are very good, 
and would indicate a higher position than that of 
a mere clerk. A. W. F. 

" Clericus is twofold, ecclesiasticus . . . and laicus, 
and in this sense is signified a pen-man, whogettelh j 
his living in some court or otherwise by the use of 
his pen. Coke upon Littleton, 120 a. 



I have before me a copy of verses regarding 
which I request some information. The lines are 
printed upon the two sides of a half sheet of fools- 
cap, and are entitled The Character of an English - 
Man; no date is appended, but at the end is the 
following, in Italic type, signed with a name so 
celebrated, that my attention was instantly fixed 
by it: 

" I have perused these verses, and find them com- 
posed according to the rules of poetry, and therefore 
think them fitting to be printed." NATH. LEE. 

It is clear, therefore, that the verses were printed 
before 1591 or 1592, when Nat. Lee died in very 
abject poverty. The first question, therefore, is, 
whether Lee was the author of them ? and this I 
answer in the negative, because they are not good 
enough for him in his worst moments. Take a 
specimen from the opening : 

" By the first principles of Mother Earth 
An Englishman is noble : by his birth 
Hath a fine body, and an aspect rare, 
Shines like the stars in Northern Hemisphere ; 
He being of the purest matter made, 
As by the wise Philosopher is said, 
Crowns him in the figure of his manhood high, 
As the sun is the candle of the sky." 

This, though intended seriously, is hardly more 
burlesque than the line 

" Oh Sun ! thou farthing candle of the sky ! " 

which, if I mistake not, is to be found in Tom 
Thumb. The production closes with some lines 
headed " The Picture," which, in fact, is a piece 
of clumsy adulation of the king most likely 
Charles II. It begins 

" See and behold the English, and draw nigh 
Unto their noble prince in majesty : 
So great he is that Greatness can't him raise, 
Cloath'd with majesty and celestial 1 rayes," &c. 

It Js difficult to say by what " rules of poetry," to 
use Lee's words, such passages were constructed, 
and I am sure F only do him justice when I ho- 
nourably acquit him of the authorship. Who was 

the guilty party we need not inquire ; but what I 
want to know is, how the distinguished name of 
Nath. Lee came to be subscribed to the production ? 
Did his poverty and not his will consent, and was 
he paid some despicable sum for his certificate in 
favour of such rubbish ? On the other hand, did 
Lee hold any office at any time which rendered his 
imprimatur necessary, like that of the ordinary 
licenser of the press ? I find nothing of the sort 
in any of the memoirs of Lee. Perhaps some of 
your readers can answer my " Queries." 



Is it too late to make an effectual stand against 
the solecistic expression " mutual friend," which I 
see in so many books and periodicals of the present 
day, and hear from so many mouths, even of per- 
sons who must know better ? 

Mr. Mncaulay, in his review of Croker's edition 
of Boswell's Life of Johnson (Edinburgh Review, 
vol. liv. p. 12.), strongly objects to the use of the 
expression " mutual friend," for " common friend." 
Yet, in spite of his just censure, it seems likely to 
establish itself in our language, both literary and 

It appears to be unknown to some, and forgotten 
by others, that the word " mutual n equals " re- 
ciprocal," and can only be used of that which 
passes between two, from each to each. Thus, it is 
correctly used in such expressions as " mutual 
love," " mutual hatred," " mutual reproaches," 
*' mutual signs," &c. But, when we speak of a 
third, as having an equal relation to two others, 
we properly use the adjective common. The dif- 
ference will be best illustrated by applying the 
two epithets severally to one common substantive. 
Thus, then, " the mutual demands of England 
and France " mean " what each demands from the 
other;" but "the common demands of England 
and France " mean " what they both demand 
from some other party or parties." " Our mutual 
esteem " means " the esteem we feel for each 
other;" " our common esteem," "the esteem we 
both feel for some other person or persons." 

The impropriety of the term " mutual friend" is 
therefore obvious. We might possibly say of two 
persons that they are " mutual friends," that is, 
" friends to each other ;" though it would be more 
proper to say, " they are mutually fritmdlv." 

It may perhaps be urged, why offer this resist- 
ance to the deflection of one word in our language 
from its classical meaning, when we have so many 
Latin words established in senses which the old 
Romans never knew ; as " intention," " prejudice," 
" civility," " curiosity," and the like ? We answer, 
for this, if for no other reason : that, supposing the 
expression "mutual friend" to be sanctioned, we 
shall have this one word " mutual " used in two 



[No. 10 

distinct senses, as = common and as = reciprocal ; 
we shall speak confusedly of our " mutual friend- 
ship," i. e. " our friendship to each other," and of 
our " mutual friend," i. e. " a friend to us both." 
This is to rob language of that metaphysical truth 
and precision which ought to belong to it. 

Shrewsbury, Dec. 22. 


Van Voorst's Polyglot Edition. In reply to the 
communication of J. F. M, in your Number re- 
specting Gray's Elegy, I beg to state that there 
was an edition in 1 vol. 8vo. published by Van 
Voorst in 1839, on every other page of which there 
is a neat woodcut and the English version of one 
verse, and on the pnge facing it a translation in 
Greek by Professor Cooke beginning, 
Ni>| Tre'Aet, ou5' av aypcas irvpa. /caieraz, oi/5' avd icoS, 
Latin by Rev. W. Hildyard, 

Audin' ut occiduae sonitum campana diei. 

German by Gotter (from the Deutsches Lesebuch, 
Bremen, 1837) : 

Die Abendglocke ruft den miiden Tag zu Grabe. 
Italian by Guiseppe Torelli : 

Segna la squilla il di, che gia vien manco. 
And in French by Le Tourneur : 

Le jour fuit ; de 1'airain les lugubres accens. 


Torris Polyglot Edition. There is a polyglot 
edition of the Elegy published with the following 
title : "Elegia di Tommaso Gray sopra un Cimi 
tero di Campagna, tradotta dali' Inglese in piii 
lingue : per cura del dottore Alessandro Torri ; 
royal 8vo., Livorno, 1843." It contains Italian 
versions severally by G. Torelli, Domenica Trant 
(prose), Melch. Cesarotti, G. Gennari, M. Lastri 
A. Buttura, P. G. Baraldi, M. A. Castellazzi, Elisa- 
betta Sesler Bono (prose), M. Leoni, L. Mancini, 
and * ranc. Cavazzocca ; those in Latin are by J 
Costa, Anstey, G. F. Barbieri, Ben. del Bene G 
Venturi; Hebrew by Venturi; French by Le 
Mierre, Kerivalant, J. L. Grenus, P. J. Charrin 
u;?S Ch6 " ni er, and Chateaubriand; German 
by W. Mason, F. G. Gotter, G. B. Rupprecht, and 
L. Kosegarten. 

Will you allow me to put the followino- query ? 
Is there not some error, or some obscurity, in the 
last stanza of the epitaph ? If I err in the conjee- 
ire, I should be glad to have my mistake cor- 
seted ; or if the reading as it now stands be faulty 
some amendment suggested. 

" No farther seek his merits to disclose 

Or draw his frailties from their dread abode ; 
(There they alike in trembling hope repose) 

Ihe bosom of his Father and his God " 

If it be said that the abode meant is the bosom 
of his Father and his God, I ask how can merits 
and frailties repose in trembling hope there the 
frailties alike with the merits ? Impossible : put 
in plain prose, the expression is, to say the least, 
irreverent. The abode meiint I take to be the 
grave; and if it be asked how can merits and 
frailties repose even there, it may be answered that 
they are qualities or adjuncts of the mind, used 
poetically for the person. A. GRAYAN. 

German Versions of Grays Elegy. I know of 
three ^translations into German of Gray's Elegy 
by poets of some note, and I recollect having at 
different times met with numerous others. 

The three are, 1. By Gotter, published in his 
collected poems, Gotha, 1788. 2. By Seume, in his 
collected poems, Riga, 1801. 3. By Kosegarten, 
in his poems, published 1798. All" three were, I 
believe, first published in the Musenalmanach. 

The first line quoted by your correspondents is 
not that of any of the above, they are much closer 
translations; that by Gotter is almost word for 
word, without losing a particle of its beauty as a 
poem. s. W. 

[C. B. B. informs us that there is a Latin version of 
a good part of Gray's Elegy in the Anthologia Oxoniensis 
(published by Longmans either in 1846' or 1847), by 
Goldwin Smith, Stowell Fellow of University College 


Sans Souci Theatre, Leicester Place. This 
theatre was originally built by Dibdin, the cele- 
brated sea-song writer, at the back of his music 
shop in the Strand. It was opened on the 16th 
of February, 1793. Park, in his Musical Memoirs, 
i. 175., says, " As a proof of the versatility of Dib- 
din's genius, it need only be stated that this pretty 
little theatre was planned, painted, and decorated 
by himself, and that he wrote the recitations and 
songs, composed the music to them, and sang and 
accompanied them on an organised pianoforte of 
his own invention." Dibdin afterwards rebuilt this 
theatre in Leicester Place. It was subsequently 
used for concerts and private performances, and is 
now the " Hotel de Versailles." 

Tottenham Street, Tottenham Court Road.* 
Whatjs now the theatre in this street was formerly 
Francis Pasquali's concert-room. It was after- 
wards purchased by the royal and noble directors 
>f the concerts of ancient music, who enlarged and 
Beautified the building, and erected a splendid box 
r Or their Majesties George the Third and his queen. 
It subsequently became a theatre under the luimes 

* Not Rathbone Place, as it is called by Mr. Cun- 

JAN. 5. 1850.] 



of the Tottenham Street, Regency, Royal West 
London, and Queen's Theatre. The architect 
was, I believe, Michael Novosielski. 



The poet Cartwright is a remarkable instance of 
fugitive celebrity. He was esteemed, says Wood, 
" a fair copy of practic piety, a rare example of 
heroic worth, and in whom arts, learning, and lan- 

iage made up the true complement of perfection." 
n the publication of his Comedies, tragi-comedies, 
with other poems, in 1651, they were recommended 
to the public by more than fifty copies of verses ! 
After all this flourish of trumpets, the volume 
never reached a second edition. 

The peculiarities of certain copies of this volume 
have been described by the learned editor of the 
Athena Oxoniemes, 1815, etc.. I shall state those of 
my own copy. Sig. **7., which contains the verses 
of II. Davison and II. Watkins, is marked as a 
cancel, but has escaped destruction. The verses, 
however, re-appear, and those of Watkins are 

In the poems, there are three additional leaves 
after sheet T, which contain verses on the return 
of queen Henrietta Maria from Holland in 1643, 
and on the death of Sir Bevill Grenvill in the 
same year ; both in a mutilated state. Now, the 
verses on the queen were printed in the Oxford 
collection on that occasion. The authorship of 
those lines is certain. The verses on Sir Bevill 
Grenvill were also printed in the collection of 
1643, but without the imprint of Oxford, and with 
the initials only of the contributor. The name, 
however, was given in a re-publication of the 
pamphlet in 1684, which was dedicated to the earl 
of Bath by Henry Birkhead, the only surviving 
contributor, with the exception of Peter Me^i 
successively bishop of Bath and Wells, and of 
Winchester who lived till 1706. 

The passages in" question seem to have been 
omitted as too applicable to other persons, and 
to more recent times. BOLTON CORNET. 


R. is enabled to inform INVESTIGATOR (p. 108.) 
that the poems On the Queen's Return from the 
Low Countries and On the Death of Sir Bevill 
Grenvill were certainly written by Cartwright ; the 
former having been originally printed, with his 
name, in a collection of complimentary verses, in 
Latin and English, addressed to Henrietta Maria, 
entitli-d "Miisarum Oxoniensium fVt/^-Hjma sere- 
oianmn Regmarum Maria ex Butavia feliciter 
i publico voto D.D.D. Oxonia, excudebat 
Leonardits Lichfield, Academics typographic. 1643." 
4 . The contributors are Dr. Samuel Fell, Dean 

Chnstchurch, Jasper Maine, R. Meade, &c. I 
imngme that the "Crown-Martyr" refers to the 

Earl of Strafford. The other poem also made its 
first appearance in a complete state in the collec- 
tion published by the Oxford royalist poets as 
before, the title of which is as follows : "Verses 
on the Death of the Right Valiant S r Bevill Gren- 
vill, Knight, who was slaine by the Rebells on 
Lansdowne Hill, neareBath, July 5. 1643. Printed 
[at Oxford] 1643." This work was published on 
the 12th August, little more than a month after the 
battle was fought. The initials of each contributor 
are attached to this performance, but the names 
are given in full in the reprint of 1684 at London, 
which has an engraving, by Faithorne, of the 
brave hero of Lansdowne, who 

" Rush'd into the field, and, foremost fighting, fell." 
The blank in the line, "Either a or his Ex- 
cellence," is here supplied by the word " traitor," 
a compliment certainly never intended for Crom- 
well, who was not the "great general!" at this 
time, but would seem rather to belong to the Earl 
of Essex or Sir William Waller. The various 
peculiarities that occur in different copies of 
Cartwright's Poems, 1651, have been noticed in 
Bliss's edition of Wood's Athena, under the Life 
of Cartwright. Of four copies in the British 
Museum, the Grenville copy is the only one which 
contains both the cancelled and uncancelled 


[Many of our communications assume a form which 
render them very difficult to be classed under either of 
our customary divisions. We shall in future throw 
such papers together under this head.] 

Oliver Cromwell's Birth. As a pendant to the 
certificate of Cromwell's baptism, printed in No. 9., 
p. 136., it may be as well to lay before our readers 
the following entry of the time of his birth, which 
occurs in John Booker's Astrological Practice Book, 
Ashmole MS. 183., p. 373.: "Oliver Cromwell 
born 25 Apl. 1599, about 3 o'clock A.M., at Hunt- 

In another Ashmole MS. 332. 11 b., which is a 
collection of figures set by Ashmole himself, Oliver 
Cromwell's birth is assigned to 22nd April, 1599. 
The figure is designated by Ashmole, in a spirit 
very different from that of the annotator of the 
Baptismal Register, "Nativitas ilia magna." 

Another minute fact in the history of Cromwell 
is registered in the same MS. 332., fo. 105. : Oliver 
Cromwell "received the sword in Westminster 
Hall, 16th December, 1653, 2 17' P.M." 

These facts are mentioned in Mr. Black's recent 
catalogue of the Ashmole MSS. pp. 142. 222. 

The Lawyers Patron Saint. " And now because 
I am speakeing of Pettyfogers, give me leave to tell 
you a story I mett with when I lived in Rome. 
Goeing with a Romane to see some Antiquityes, he 
showed me a chapell dedicated to one St. Evona, a 



[No. 10. 

lawyer of Brittanie, who he said came to Rome to 
entreat the Pope to give the Lawyers of Brittanie 
a Patron, to which the Pope replied, That he knew 
of no Saint but what was disposed of to other 
Professions. At which Evona was very sad, and 
earnestly begd of the Pope to think of one for 
him. At last the Pope proposed to St. Evona 
that he should goe round the church of St. John 
de Latera blindfould, and after he had said so 
many Ave Marias, that the first Saint he layd hold 
of should be his Patron, which the good old Lawyer 
willingly undertook ; and at the end of his Ave- 
Maryes he stopt at Saint Michels altar, where he 
layd hold of the Divell, under St. Michels feet, 
and cryd out, This is our Saint, let him be our 
Patron. So being unblindfolded, and seeing 
what a Patron he had chosen, he went to his 
lodgings so dejected, that in few moneths after he 
die'tl, and coming to heaven's gates knockt hard. 
Whereupon St. Peter asked who it was that knockt 
so bouldly. He replyed, That he was St. Evona 
the Advocate. Away, away, said St. Peter ; here 
is but one Advocate in heaven ; here is no room 
for you Lawyers. O but, said St. Evona, I am 
that honest Lawyer who never tooke fees on both 
sides, or pleaded in a bad cause, nor did I ever 
set my Naibours together by the Eares, or lived 
by the sins of the people. Well then, said St. 
Peter, come in. This news comeing down to Rome, 
a witty Poet writ upon St. Evona' s tomb these 
words : 

* St. Evona un Briton, 

Advocat non Larron, 


"This story put me in mind of Ben Johnson goe- 
ing throw a church in Surry, seeing poore people 
weeping over a grave, asked one of the women 
why they wept. Oh, said shee, we have lost our 
pretious Lawyer, Justice Randall ; he kept us all 
in peace, and always was so good as to keep us 
from goeing to lavv ; the best man ever lived. 
Well, said Ben Johnson, I will send you an Epi- 
taph to write upon his Tomb, which was 
* God works wonders now and than, 

Here lyes a Lawyer an honest man.' " 
Carr's Remarks of the Government of the several 
Parts of Germanic, Denmark, frc. 24mo. Amster- 
dam, 1688, pp.80 83. 


(From the Latin of Vincent Bourne.} 
Good friend ! for good wishes expressed everyday 
Accept a poor poet's retributive lay ; 
For though only officially you, perhaps,' bawl 
" Good ^morrovv, my masters and mistresses all," 
Yet while such kind wishes I constantly hear 
For " A Merry Old Christmas and Happy New 

Year," x ' ' 

I feel as if something was wanting from me, 

So, Good morrow, good David, Good morrow to 

thee ! 

Less punctual than thine is "bright chanti- 
cleer's" lay 

That divides the night watches, and heralds the day, 
And old Time, of all thieves that are known the 

most sly, 

Cannot eve-n in cover of midnight slip by. 
No, when darkness o'er all things its mantle has 


And e'en supperless poets have crept into bed, 
Yourself, and your dog, and your hoi-n-circled light, 
Seem at home, and at ease, in the horrors of night. 

Not topers when frantic they rush to the street 
To discharge their pot-valour on all whom they meet, 
Are a terror to you you'd esteem it good luck 
To fall in with the Mohocks just running a muck, 
And, whatever your brethren less loyal might do, 
You'd " present the king's person " * for them to 

run through. 

Pale ghosts might assemble to scare you in vain, 
Or hobgoblins come forth from their roost in 

Cock Lane; 

Nay, even the footpad, with bludgeon or knife, 
Who demands from all others their "money or life," 
No sooner sees you than he takes to his heels, 
And from your sacred person himself only steals,f 

But when lionest labour anticipates day, 
And fruit-bearing rustics are groping their way, 
To "TheGarden," through ancle-deep alley or street, 
How urbanely you welcome each swain that you 


To all and to each you have something to say, 
Sometimes more, never less, than a hearty "Good 


By your oracle, too, one immediately learns 
How moonlight, and starlight, tmd clouds take 

their turns ; 

And your kindness most commonly adds to the debt, 
By the news of fair weather, or frosty, or wet ; 
And while we lie dozing, well housed, dry, and 


Secure, and unconscious almost of the storm, 
You endure its whole rage you would scorn to 


And own yourself beaten away from your beat. 
Meantime as you wander through alley or lane 
You enliven your round with some care-killing 

^ strain ; 
And if in rude numbers your song you should 

, frame, 

With thoughts rather homely, and rhymes some- 
what lame, 

* " You constable are to present the prince's own 
person." Dogberry. 

f " Let him show himself what he is, and steal out 
of your company." Dogberry. 

JAN. 5. 1850.] 



You have little to fear even critical spite 
Gives some quarter at least to the songsters of'night, 
And when you, or the nightingale, warble your 

Those who listen at all are most likely to praise. 

In the pictures with which your effusions are 


Each saint in due order of merit is placed ; 
But chiefly St. Crispin let no honest muse 
That mark of respect to St. Crispin refuse ; 
And never, oh never, his name be forgot 
By the watch that has shoes, or the bard that has 


Then after your pictures we come to your lines, 
And here at the outset your loyalty shines. 
To our monarch, as due, the first place you afford, 
And for him, and his race, are all blessings im- 

Next come your " Good masters and mistresses all," 
Good enough, J presume, if they come at this call ; 
And can they do less, when but once in the year 
(Though you call every hour) you care if they 

Then you give good advice to our maids and our 


To be honest, and sober, and cleanly and then 
A few rules for the choice of a husband or wife, 
With some hints for their subsequent conduct in 

All good things, with abundance of wishes and 


That whatever we wish for may fall to our shares, 
You freely wish us and I'd willingly learn 
What good things we can wish to yourself in re- 

Should you and your dog ever call at my door, 
You'll be welcome, I promise you, nobody more. 
May you call at a thousand each year that you live, 
A shilling at least may each householder give ; 
May the " Merry Old Christmas" you wish us 


And yourself, and your dog, be the merriest of all ! 


Ballad- Makers and Legislators. The aphorism 
inquired after by C. U. B. E. R. (p. 124), is from 
Andrew Fletcher of Saltoun's very curious paper, 
entitled "An Account of a Conversation concern- 
ing a right Regulation of Governments, .... in a 

Letter to the Marquiss of Montrose, &c from 

London, the first of December, 1703. Edinburgh, 
printed in the year MDCCIV." But Fletcher does 
not give it as his own. After reporting a remark 
by Sir Christopher Musgrave, to the effect that 
even the poorer sort of both sexes in London were 
daily tempted to all manner of lewdness by infa- 
mous ballads sung in every corner of the streets, 
to which the Earl of Cromarty is made to reply, 
"One would think this last were of no great con- 
sequence," he adds : " I said, I knew a very wise 

man so much of Sir Christopher's sentiment, that 
he believed, if a man were permitted to make all 
the ballads, he need not care who should make 
the laws of a nation. And we find that most of 
the ancient legislators thought they could not well 
reform the manners of any city without the help 
of a lyric, and sometimes of a dramatic, poet. But 
in this city the dramatic poet, no less than the 
ballad-maker, has been almost wholly employed to 
corrupt the people, in which they have had most 
unspeakable and deplorable success." Fletcher's 
Political Works, 12mo., p. 266. Glasgow, 1749. 

I stated this in the Penny Cyclopaedia, vol. x. 
p. 310., some years ago. G. L. C. 

Old Brompton, Dec. 21. 1849. 

J. S. furnishes us with a similar reference to 
Fletcher of Saltoun ; as does also MELANION, who 
adds, " to whom does Fletcher allude ?" I have, 
in a note-book, the following notice of Lord 

" Lord Wharton used to boast that he effected a re- 
volution which cost a monarch three crowns by a song 
[Lilliburlero] ; but what bard has yet been able to 
uphold a tottering and decrepit state by the magic of 
his poesy ? " Note on Hudibras, Part I. Canto ii. line 
399., in an edition, with notes by Grey and others ; 
published by T. M'Lean. London, 1819. 

I cannot say that I envy him the boast. Three 

crowns and a song ! Why, it's the line-of- 

battle ship and the teredo ! the towering Falcon 
and the mousing Owl ! 

Ogilby's Britannia. The frequent references 
by Macaulay, in his graphic History, to Ogilby's 
Britannia, have awakened public attention to this 
neglected but " noble description of Britain," as 
it is deservedly entitled by Bishop Nicholson ; and 
in No. 5. of your invaluable " NOTES AND QUERIES," 
a desire is expressed for the second volume of the 
edition of 1675. It will be sufficient to state that 
the work never proceeded beyond the first volume, 
although it was the intention of the author to have 
furnished views of English cities in Vol. II., and 
a topographical description of the whole kingdom 
in Vol. ILL Bishop Nicholson, in his Historical 
Library, refers to an edition of the Britannia of 
1612, which is manifestly an error, as the author 
at that time was barely twelve years of age ; and 
in the Anecdotes of British Topography, allusion 
is made to an edition of 1674, which is doubtless a 
misquotation of the date. The subject is one of 
little interest, beyond the fact of correcting an 
error and satisfying a correspondent that (even in 
trivial matters) there are those who will gladly 
communicate information through these pages. 
Birmingham. J- G. 

A Mess. Agreeably to the spirit of ^your motto, 
I have "made a note" of the following parallel 
passages : 



[No. 10. 

Biron. Guilty, my lord, guilty ; I confess, I confess 

King. What? 

Blron. That you three fools lacked me fool, to mak 

up the mess ; 

He, he, and you, and you, my liege, and I, 
Are pick-purses in love, and we deserve to die. 
O ! dismiss this audience, and I shall tell you more. 

Dumain. Now the number is even. 

Biron. True, true ; we are four. 

Love's Labour's Lost. Act. IV. Scene 3 

' Avarice is the mother ; she bryngs forth bribe 
taking, and bribe-taking perverting of judgement 
there lackes a forth thinge to make upp the Messe." 
Larimer's Fifth Sermon. ROBERT SNOW 

[Our correspondent furnishes the earliest instance 
yet recorded of a proverbial saying which NARES has 
explained in his Glossary, as arising from the custom 
of arranging the guests at dinners and great feasts in 
companies of four, which were called Messes, and were 
served together ; from which the word Mess came to 
mean a set of four in a general way, in which sense it 
occurs in the title-page of a vocabulary published in 
London in 1617, "Janua linguarurn quadrilinguis, or a 
Messe of tongues, Latine, English, French, and Spanish :" 
the editor of which, in his address to the English reader, 
says, there being already three languages he translated 
them into French "to make up the Messe."] 

Coffee. "1637. There came in my tyme to 
the College, Oxford, one Nathaniel Conopios, out 
of Greece. He was the first I ever saw drink 
coffee, which custom came not into England till 
thirty years after." Evelyn's Diary. 

To endeavour oneself. P. C. S. S. begs leave 
to observe, in answer to the question of G. P. in 
the eighth number, that the use of the verb " en- 
deavour" which G. P. cites, is also to be found in 
Shakspeare's Twelfth Night, Act IV. Sc. 2. : 

Malvolio, Malvolio, thy wits the Heavens restore! 
endeavour thyself to sleep, and leave thy vain bibble- 

Countess of Pembroke's Letter. With reference 
to Mr. Cunningham's third query in your second 
number, I beg to refer him to p. 294. of Nicholson 
and Burn's History of Cumberland, 4to. London, 
1727, and to Martin's History of Thetford, 4to. 
1779 p. 292*, where he will find some allusion to 
the Countess Anne and Sir J. Williamson ; and 
it is possible that the Original Letter from the 
Countess my be amongst the MSS. which Sir 
Cnl)! llha on / av * to the Library of Queen's 
College, Oxford. The letter is quoted in Collins' 

Pe a lofBetts.-I\)<>\i eve many persons are at 
a loss to know what is meant by a Peal; but I 
think, with the kind assistance of a ringin<r friend 
I am able to answer Mr. Gatty's question, pub- 
lished in your eighth number. The term is ge- 
nerally applied to any ringing of bells together, 

no matter whether of ten minutes or ten hours 
duration. Bells are first raised, either singly, or 
in peal (that is, in ringing order) ; they may then 
be set or not, as the ringers please, or rung in 
changes or round ringing, and then ceased by 
setting or falling, and then would end a peal in 
common parlance. But the term is known and used 
by all scientific ringers for a performance of above 
5000 changes ; any portion of changes under that 
number is called either a short or long touch, in 
some places a piece of ringing, by others & flourish 
on the bells, &c. 

While on the subject of bells, I beg leave to ask 
your correspondent "CEPHAS" whether the ring- 
ing he speaks of in his letter as being so common 
in his locality in this month of December, is gene- 
rally known by the name he gives it Advent 
Bell ? H. T. ELLACOMBE. 

Bitton, Dec. 27th. 1849. 

Dowts of Holy Scripture. The book of the 
Dowts of Holy Scryptur, concerning which BURI- 
ENSIS has asked for information, seems to have 
been a copy of the Liber Qucestionum Veteris et 
NoviTestamenti, formerly ascribed to S. Augustin. 

R. G. 

Weeping Crosse. Can any of your correspond- 
ents explain the origin of the figure contained in 
the following passage, or refer me to a similar use 
of it ? It occurs in Florio's Translation of Mon- 
taigne, book iii. ch. 5. 

" Few men have wedded their sweethearts, their 
paramours, or mistresses, but have come home by 
Weepiny Crosse, and ere long repented their bargain." 


[NARES tells us, on the authority of Howell's En- 
glish Proverbs, p. 36. 

" He that goes out with often losse, 

At last comes home by Weeping Crosse," 

hat to return by Weeping Cross was a proverbial ex- 
session for deeply lamenting an undertaking, founded 

>n a qmbblmg allusion to certain places so designated, 
where penitents are supposed formerly to have more 
particularly offered their devotions. There remain 

hree places which still bear the name of Weepino- 
Cross; one between Oxford and Banbury, another 
very near Stafford, where the road turns off to Walsall, 

nd a third near Shrewsbury.] 


Query for the Curators of the Bodleian. 
In that very singular and caustic book II Vo- 
abolano Cateriniano of Girolamo GHi (which was 
uppressed by a papal bull, and the author banished 
orty miles from Rome by a decree of the pope, 
ated the 21st August, 1717), at fo. cciij. is the 

mlowing curious passage : 

" The Florentines have, better than the inhabitants 

JAN. 5. 1850.] 



of the other Tuscan provinces, widely spread their 
idiom by means of commerce. . . . And to this pur- 
pose I remember to have read (but. from the treachery 
of my memory, for the moment I know not where) 
that, for the propagation of Florentine writings, the 
cheese-merchants of Lucardo kept in their pay many 
writers to copy the best authors of the best age, and 
with these enveloped their buttery bantlings*, in order 
that in the ports of the east and of the north, wherever 
such merchandize was marketable, the milk of the 
Florentine cows and that of the Florentine Muses 
might gain credit together. And this is so true, that 
at Oxford, in the celebrated Bodleian Library, is still 
preserved a Dante, correctly copied from the first MS. 
text, which had been used carefully to envelope a 
consignment of cheese at the time when the Bardi 
were merchants in England. It was known as the 
Lucardian Dante. The keepers of the great library, 
kept always beside it two mousetraps, on account of 
the persecution of this Cheesy Codex by the mice, so 
that at length it was called, in English, the Book of 
the Mousetrap." 

Now quere ? is there any tradition in the Bod- 
leian respecting this Mousetrap Dante ? and does 
it still retain its cheesy flavour, so as to require 
the protection of a trap if still there? I know, to 
my cost, that hungry mice find unctuous hogskin 
binding very attractive, and, when hardly pressed 
for subsistence, will feed upon parchment or vel- 
lum, whether cheesy or not. Aretino's profane 

" Guardatemi da' topi or che son unto," 

might have been the invocation of many a well- 
thumbed greasy volume. 



With reference, rather than in reply to, your 
correspondent " R. O.V speculations upon coffee, 
permit me to put a Query, which may, perhaps, 
surprise both him and you whether the Lace- 
daemonian black broth was black? because, if this 
can be shown to be questionable, the notion of its 
being mixed with coffee falls to the ground of 

The phrase is w//i>e /uAg; ^M^LOQ being the liquid 
produced from any meat or edible substance cut in 
pieces, and boiled or stewed with water over the 
lire, so that it may signify gravy, as well as broth. 
We find also that called white, ZUUUQ \(VKOQ, sup- 
posed to be made from or for eels, a favourite dish 
with the Athenians. 

What the Lacedaemonian diet was, we gather 
from the amusing gossip of Athenaeus, and therein 
something, en passant, of the composition of their 
ZMUOC. W lift In T any better cookery book exists, 
I know not. The passage is to be found in book 
iv. chapter xix., and the following translation 

* Bambolini Burrati. 

is offered with much diffidence, from some diffi- 
culties in the original not affecting the question of 
the o^ dy : 

" With regard to the meal called pheiditia (spare- 
meals), Dicaearchus gives the following account, in the 
work called Tripoliticus : ' In the first place, the meal 
is laid for each person separately, without reference to 
the others ; lie has a cake as large as he will, and a 
full cup is placed by him, to repeat his draught as 
often as he pleases ; on all occasions the meat given to 
all is the same swine's fleih, boiled ; and sometimes 
nothing at all but a little bit of meat, weighing as nearly 
as possible a quarter of a pound ; and nothing more at 
all except the liquor (or gravy) from these rations (6 
curb roijTcav fwjLtbs), which is sufficient in quantity to 
supply all the company through the whole meal. If 
there is any thing more than this, it is an olive, a bit 
of cheese, or a fig, or any thing that may happen to be 
given to them, as a fish, a hare, a pigeon, or any thing 
of this sort.'" 

From this passage it would appear that the 
MC. is the liquor in which the meat had been 
boiled ; and this being generally the flesh of swine 
(a phrase I use advisedly, as there is no hint of its 
having been salted), the produce must have been 
more than sufficiently disagreeable to those not 
accustomed to it. Monsieur Soyer himself could 
hardly have used such stock either for soupe maigre, 
or in his cookery for the poor, though it may have 
been strong, and therefore dark in colour, whence 
the epithet. But I am sure your correspondent 
" R. O." will agree with me, that, if to such a de- 
coction coffee were added, it would form a compo- 
sition de diable, against which, in an equal degree, 
ancient and modern stomachs would rebel, which 
would resemble nothing ever heard of before but 
Don Quixote's balsam of Fierabrass. There is 
said to be something on the " black broth" in 
Pollux, lib. vi. ; but that book I have not at hand 
at present. W. 



Dear Sir, In the Glossary at the end of Tyr- 
whitt's edit, of the Canterbury Tales of Chaucer, 
there are the following remarks under the words 
Rehete as a verb, and lieheting as a noun sub- 
stantive : 

" HEHETK t>. FH. Rehaiter. To revive, to cheer- 
R." [i. e. Romaunt of the Rose] "6509. KEHETJNG- 
n. T." [i e. Troilus and Creseide] "iii. 350. according 
to several MSS., And all the reheting of his Kikes sore. 
Some MSS. and most of the printed editions read 
Richesse instead of Reheting. Gloss. Ur. Richesse, 
though almost as awkward an expression as the other, 
is more agreeable to the corresponding passage in the 
Filostrato : 

E sospir chegli avea a gran dovicia, ' 
and one can hardly conceive that it could come from 
any hand but that of the author. I can make no sense 



[No. 10. 

ofreheting: but at the same time I must allow thaUt 
is not likely to have been inserted by way of a gloss. 

I have met with the word Eehetour in the fol- 
lowing passages of Wycliffe's writings ; I quote 
themm the hope that some of your learned readers 
may be able to throw light on the origin and 
meanincr of the word. In the treatise Of the 
Chirche and hir Membris, Wycliffe, speaking of 
the new orders of monks and friars, says : 

Who may denye that ne this noumbre of thes 
officeris is now to myche, & so this stiward " [viz. the 
Pope] "hath chargid this hous" [i.e. the Church] 
" with newe rehetours to harm of it ; and sith Foul 
techith in bileve that thei shulden not be charious to 
the chirche, it semith bi good resoun, that this stiward 
passith his power, and failith in governaunce of the 
chirche, agen the reule that Crist hath taugt, & so he 
is not Cristis stiward, but stiward of anticrist. What 
man can not se that a stiward of an erthli lorde, whanne 
many servaunts don amys, holdith hem stille, bryng- 
ith inne new that don worse bi a litil tyme, failith 
foule in his offiss, & so servauntis upon servauntis 
weren charious to this hous, & if her first offiss was 
good, & this is now al, other the chaunging of these 
rehetours shulde do harm to this hous : and thus it 
stondith in the chirch, of thes new servauntes that ben 
brout inne, & newe lawes ben made to hem, & newe 
customs that thei bringen inne," &c. 

Again, in another part of the same tract, still 
alluding to the same subject, he says : 

* Lord what stiward wer he that wolde ordeyne 
newe rehetours to ete mennes mete, & do hem harm 
azens Crist's ordenaunce." 

Here the word Rehetour seems to be used in 
the sense of a person dependent on or chargeable 
to a great man's house or family. But its exact 
meaning and origin etymologically I do not know, 
and would be very thankful to any of your readers 
who would inform me. 

The Complement to the Dictionary of the French 
has the word Rehaitier, which it marks as obsolete, 
and explains " Encourager, lleprendre de la force, 
de 1'audace." This, however, throws no light on 
the word as used by Wycliffe and Chaucer. 

The word appears to have been in use in Scot- 
land; and Jamieson, in his Etymological Dictio- 
nary of the Scottish Language, gives the following 
instances of its use, but throws no additional light 
on its etymology or real meaning : 

1 Now lat that ilk rehatoure wend in hy, 
The blak hellis biggingis to vesy, 
Vnder the drery depe flude Acheron.' 

Doug. Virgil, 467. 53. 
" Improbus, Maffei. 

" Rudd conjectures that it signifies, ' mortal enemy,' 
from Fr. rehair, to hate extremely. Dunbar uses the 
phrase l bawd rehator,' Evergreen, ii. 60. ; and Kennedy 
in his reply, 'ranegald rehator,' ibid. p. 68. 

" Conjecture might supply various sources of deriva 
tion : as Ital. rihauiita, revenge ; regattare, to contend 

v put every thing in disorder ; reatura, guilt. But 
,oth the determinate sense and etymology are uncer- 
" To REHETE, v. a. To revive, to cheer. 

With kynde countenance the renk couth thame 

rehete.' Gawan and Gol iv. 13. 
" Chaucer, id. Fr. rehait-er. 

Mr. Halliwell, in his Dictionary of Archaic and 
Provincial Words, &c. gives the following expla- 
nations of Rehete and Reheting : 

" REHETE. (1.) To revive; to cheer ; to encourage. 
(A. N.) 'Him would I comforte and rehete.' Rom. 
Rose, 6509. 

< Thane the conquer our kyndly carpede to those 

Rehetede the Romaynes with realle speche.' 

Morte Arthure, MS. Lincoln, f. 55. 

(2.) To persecute. (A. S.) 

"REHETING. Burning ; smarting." (A. S.) 

Without stopping to inquire how the same word 
can signify revive, cheer, mortal enemy, encourage, 
persecute, burning, smarting, I think it must be 
admitted that the passages I have quoted from 
Wycliffe's Treatise on the Church are not explained 
bv any of the foregoing attempts to discover the 
etymology and meaning of the word in question. 

As I hope shortly to bring out the treatise re- 
ferred to, along with two other tracts by Wycliffe, 
which have never yet been printed, 1 shall feel 
greatly obliged to any of your readers who will 
kindly supply me with the information I seek for 
in this communication. J. H. TODD. 

Trinity College, Dublin, Dec. 20. 1 849. 


Ancient Motto. Can any one tell me in what 
author may be found this motto, " Nullis fraus 
tuta latebris " ? 

Ordination Pledges. Is there any book, either 
a standard work or a modern manual, which gives 
a complete list of all the oaths, subscriptions, and 
declarations, which are required of the clergy at 
their several ordinations and appointments ? 


[As we presume CLERICUS is acquainted with Hodg- 
son's Instructions for the Use of Candidates for Holy 
Orders, we insert his query in the hopes that some of 
our correspondents will furnish CLERICUS with the fur- 
ther information he requires.] 

M.Scutters "Atlas Novus" I shall feel obliged 
by you, or any " to whom these presents shall 
come," affording me some information respecting 
a work and its author, of which no mention is 
made in any bibliographical or biographical work 
which I have consulted. 

The book is in two enormous folio volumes, 

JAN. 5. 1850.] 



without any printed title, date, place, or publisher's 
name; but in the elaborately engraved frontis- 
piece, which serves as a title, is inserted " Atlas 
Novus, sive Tabulae Geographicae, totius Orbis fa- 
ciem, partes, imperio, regna et provincias exhi- 
bentes, exactissiina cura juxta recentissimas ob- 
servationes aeri incisae et venuin expositae a Matthaeo 
Scutter, Sac. Caes.Majest. Geogr. Augustae Vindeli- 
corum." It contains 385 maps, plans of cities, forti- 
fications, views of buildings, costumes, and genealo- 
gical tables, chronological notices of popes, kings, 
&c., carefully coloured ; and apparently published 
after 1744. It is, in every point of view, a most 
curious and valuable publication ; and I am sur- 
prised to find no notice of it in any book to which 
I have referred. W. B. D. D. TURMJULL. 

Miss Warneford and Mr. Cresswcll. In the 
reign of Queen Anne or George I. there was living 
in or about Solro Square a lady of considerable 
fortune, a Miss Warneford ; a Mr. Cresswell sought 
to make her his wife. A pamphlet was published 
at the time giving a full account of the affair. Can 
any gentleman favour me with the correct title 
and date of it ? B. 

Beaufoys Ringers True Guide. A tract was 
published in 1804 (12mo. p. 24.), entitled The 
Ringers' True Guide, by S. Beaufoy. Does any 
reader possess a copy or know where one may be 
seen, or who was the publisher ? B. 

Hordys Gold Florens Kilkenny. In that 
most curious volume, published by the Camden 
Society in 1843, viz., Proceedings against Dame 
Alice Kyteler, prosecuted for Sorcery in 1324, by 
Richard de Ledrede, Bishop of Ossory, p. 14., the 
bishop appears in court before Arnold Le Poer, 
Seneschal of Kilkenny, with the consecrated host 
in his hands, whereon the seneschal irreverently 
commands him to be placed at the bar, " cum suo 
hordys quern port at in manibus." I have not been 
able to find the word hordys in any dictionary or 
glossary to which I have access. Can you, or any 
of your correspondents, help me with an expla- 
nation of the word? The editor, Mr. Wright, 
takes no notice of it. 

At p. 29. of the same work florens of gold are 
mentioned. Query, was such a coin in circulation 
in England or Ireland about 1324? 

Mr. Wright says, there can be no doubt that 
this is a contemporary narrative of the ull'iir. 
Query, if so, why does the writer term Kilkenny 
a city, "in civitate Kilkenniac," page 1.? Kilkenny 
was not raisi-d to the dignity of a city till the reign 
of James I., 1609. In all authentic documents 
previous to that date the style "Villa Kilkenniae" 
is used. J. G. 

Germain* Lij,s. Can any of your correspond- 
ents state the origin of the proverb, "As just as 
-' lips"? "it occurs in Culfhill's Answer to 

Martiall, p. 345. ed. Parker Soc. In the Sermons 
and Remains of Bishop Latimer, published by the 
same society (p. 425.), this phrase is thus ex- 
tended : "Even as just as Germain's lips, which 
came not together by nine mile, ut vulgo dicunt." 
Is it possible that the following words of Bishop 
Barlow can be a various reading or corruption of 
the saying ? " Now heere the Censurer makes an 
Almaine leape, skipping 3 whole pages together." 
Ansicer to a Catholihe Englishman, p. 231., Lond. 
1609. R. G. 

[Ben Jonson, in his Devil is an Ass, speaks of 
" And take his Almain-leap into a custard ; " 
which is explained by the commentators as a " dancing 
leap." " Germain's lips " is, as it seems to us, a phrase 
quite unconnected with it.] 

Sir Walter de Bitton. Sir Walter de Bitton is 
said by Burke in his Commoners, vol. iv. p. 120., to 
have been knighted by Henry III. I shall be 
much obliged to any gentleman who may be able 
to give a reference to authority for such a fact, or 
to any notices respecting the said Sir Walter. The 
date of his death is given 1227. B. 

A Fool or a Physician. Can any of your readers 
inform me who first had the hardihood to enun- 
ciate, as his own, the proposition, that " After the 
age of thirty, a man is either a fool or a physician ?" 
I believe that we owe that saying, as well as the 
beautiful, though now sadly hackneyed, metaphor 
of "the parasitical adoration of the rising, and 
contempt of the setting sun," the one to the 
shrewd observation, the other to the fancy, of the 
same mind that of the imperial Macchiavel, Ti- 
berius "Let us render unto Caesar the things 
that are Caesar's." See Tacit. Ann. 6. 46. 

Temple, Dec. 24. 1849. C. FORBES. 

Caerphili Castle The use of the Samolus and 
Selago by the Druids. Can any Welsh scholar 
inform me of the derivation of the name of Caer- 
phili Castle, near Cardiff? This is the Welsh 
spelling of it; in English it is generally spelt 
Caerphilly. I have seen a derivation of it from 
Caer-phuli, the Castle of Haste; but is there such 
a word as phiili, or rather pull, in Welsh? Cliffe, 
in his Book of South Wales, follows a Mr. Clarke, 
in deriving it from Caer-Pwll, the Castle of the 
Pool; but this does not seem satisfactory. Is 
any thing known of the early history of this 
castle? Mr. ClifTe says, "Daines Barrington, in 
an essay published seventy or eighty years ago, 
attributed the erection of the present structure to 
Edward I. merely because it had been recorded 
that that monarch had passed through South 
Wales; luit there is no reason to doubt, after an 
examination of authorities, that Gilbert de Clare, 
the last but one of that name, was the founder, 



[No. 10. 

circa 1270." What authority has he for saying 

I should also be glad of any information as to 
the manner in which the plants Samolus and 
Selago were used in the Druidic mysteries. 


Father when did Clergymen cease to be so called ? 
LAICUS desires to be informed at about what 
period the clergy of the Church of England dis- 
continued the appellation of Father; whether it 
was done at once, by some resolution, or other 
measure, or did it gradually fall into disuse ? 

Queries in Church History. " S. of M." wishes 
to be informed at what date (as nearly as can be 
determined) the Bishop of Rome was acknow- 
ledged Supreme Head of the Catholic Church ; 
and the most authentic History of the Church 
from the 1st to the 10th century ? 

[The Editor has great pleasure in promoting such 
inquiries as the above, and in inserting Queries tending 
to promote them ; but, with a view to the replies, he 
ventures to suggest that where a question involves the 
settlement of a good many disputed points, the best 
answer would be a concise statement of the opinions 
which have been held by those who have discussed 
such points at large, and a reference to their works. 
He would be very glad to have all the disputed facts 
of history discussed at full length in his columns, but 
it is obvious that their narrow limits render thit im- 

ColiiKEus. In a copy of Horace (1539), and of 
Valerius Flaccus (1532), both bearing the name of 
ColincKus, I find a slight difference in the device 
and motto on the title-page. In the Valerius 
Flaccus the motto is, " Hanc aciem sola retundit 
virtus," and is written on a scroll coming from the 
mouth of Time ; while in the Horace, the motto is 
"Virtus sola aciem retundit istam," and is placed 
on a tablet below the figure. 

I wish to inquire if this difference could warrant 
a doubt as to the authenticity of either ; and se- 
condly, whether anything is known of the origin of 
that motto ? G. Jj < B. 

Ballad on Jemmy Dawson. In the European 
Magazine for January, 1801, is a paper on the 
origin of Shenstone's ballad of Jemmy Dawson, in 
which the writer says, 

" A ballad is said to have been cried about the 
streets different from Shenstone's, which we should be 
glad to see, if it is in existence." 

Does any of your readers know any thing about it ? 
In the April number of the same volume is a 
ballad commencing, 

" Blow ye bleak winds around my head," 
which is there said to have been the origin of 
Shenstone's ballad, but it is not the one cried about 
the streets. The latter was set to music by Dr. 

Arne, and printed in the first part of his Lyric 

Defoe's Tour through Great Britain Etymo- 
logy of Armagh. In your sixth number some 
extracts are given " from a once popular, but now 
forgotten work," A Tour through Great Britain, 
by a Gentleman, 1724. I have an edition of it 
dated 1753, which was sent me by a respectable 
London bookseller as one of the works of Defoe. 
Can you or any of your friends inform me whether 
it is really to be attributed to that writer? 

Perhaps also one of your philological corre- 
spondents, acquainted with the Gaelic or Celtic 
language, might favour me with his opinion as to 
the etymology and meaning, if any, of Armagh in 
Ireland. D. S. Y. 

Master of the Revels. The list of Masters of 
the Revells, communicated by Dr. Rimbault in 
your last number, p. 143., does not answer a 
Query, which I entertained some months ago, 
with reference to the following passage from the 
Common-place Book of Charles, Duke of Dorset 
(the poet), printed in the Genttemaris Magazine 
for January, 1 849 : 

" MASTER OF THE REVELLS. Sir Henry Herbert, 
in a tryal he had with my father to prove the antiquity 
of the Master of the Revells office, produced a very 
old man, who deposed that a long time since a smal 
company of players represented a cobler and his daugh- 
ters upon the stage ; the cobler complained in the Star 
Chamber; the Master of the Revells, for licencing this, 
was fined, and put out of his office, and the players 
whipped. This I had from Mr. C. K. 

M. R. and T. S." (Brit. Museum, 

Hirl. MS.) 

Of these initials, I imagine M. R. to stand for 
Master of the Revells. Can any of your corre- 
spondents say whether I am right? explain who 
Mr. C. K. was? or continue the catalogue of the 
Masters of the Revells from Sir Henry Herbert 
downwards ? J. G. N. 


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by introductory essays, notes, illustrations, and 
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Literature," all recently purchased ; and also from 
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and Foreign History, and Antiquities, Fine Arts, 

Messrs. L. Sotheby and Co., of Wellington 
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Monday next, with the sale of the valuable library 
of a gentleman deceased, which contains fine sets 
of the Chronicles of Holinshed, Grafton, Hall, 
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" Jo. MILTON, pre. 2s. 6d. 1631 ;" 
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" Cum sole et luna semp 1 Aratus erit." 

The volume is also enriched with the poet's auto- 
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There is scarcely a query in literary and poli- 
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About ten years since, I remember seeing, in 
the hands of a London bookseller, a curious MS. 
purporting to be the " Household Book of Receipts 
and Expences of Sir Edward Bering, Bart., of 
Surrenden Dering, Kent, from Lady-Day, 1648, to 
April, 1652." It was a thin folio, in the original 
binding, entirely in the hand-writing of the distin- 
guished baronet. 

Sir Edward was the only son of Sir Edward 
Dering, the first baronet, by his second wife, 
Anne, daughter of Sir John Ashburnham, of 
Ashburnhara, Sussex, Knt. He succeeded to the 
baronetcy upon the death of his father, in 1644, 
and married Mary, daughter of Daniel Harvey, 
Esq., of Combe, Surrey, who was brother of the 
famous Dr. Harvey, the discoverer of the circula- 
tion of the blood. 

* The successor of the Sir Edward Dering, from 
whose Household Book the Rev. Lambert B. Larking 
communicated the interesting entries in No. 9. p. ISO. 

The volume commences at Lady-day, 1648, with 
the gifts of his grandmother Cramond, and his 
uncles Dr. Harvey and Eliab Harvey. Nov. 8. 1648, 
is a memorandum of receipts of u the full remainder 
of the three thousand pounds he was to pay me on 
my marriage." The receipts close March 25. 
1652, with " a note of what money I have received 
for rent, wood, &c. ; in effect, what I have to live 
upon, for four years, 14137. 8*." The expenses 
begin at the same period ; and among the earliest 
is, " given my wife, in gold, 1007." Under the 
date Aug. 4. 1648, we read, " Item : paid Mr. Ed- 
ward Gibbes, to the use, and by the appointment 
of my sister Dorothy, it being her portion, 12007." 
Dorothy was probably Sir Edward's only sister, 
by the same mother, Sir Edward, the first baronet's 
second wife. Her sun of life soon set ; for Feb. 
21. 1650, a whole page is occupied with items of 
mourning "at the death of my deare and only 
sister, the Lady Darell." 

Independently of the frequent notices of re- 
latives, almost serving as a family history, there 
are entries of high interest to the general historian 
and the antiquary. The costs of every article of 
use and virtu are set down in full, and a few 
of the items (which I find in my Common-place 
Book) will serve as a specimen of the general 
contents : 

** 1648. July 31. It. for seeing two plaies with my 
wife, &c., coach hire, &c., I/. 6. 

Sept. 2. It. paid the upholsterer for a 

counterpayne to the yellow per- 
petuana bed - - 3/. 10*. 

Sept. 7. Paid Mr. Winne, for a tippet of 

sables for my wife - 14/. 

Nov. 23, For a copy of Marg. Dering's 

office - - 9*. 

Dec. 23. It. paid Mr. Le Neve, in part for 

ray wife's picture - S/. 

Mar. 8. It. a velvet saddle furniture for 

my wife, I:;/. It black sattin, 
for a gown for her, 7t It. two 
diamond rings - 13/1 

* 1649. April 16. It given seeing Roehampton- 
House - - 6. 

April 28. It. paid Mr. Le Neve, the remain- 

der due for my wife's picture, 



[No, 11. 

37. 4s. It. paid him for a pic- 
ture of the king, 21. It. paid 
him for a new frame to my 
grandmother's 6s. 

1649. May 9. Item, given at John Tredeskin's 
[Tradescant] - 2s. 6d. 

June 1. Paid Mr. Lawes, a month's teach- 

ing of my wife - I/. 10s. 

Sept. 1. It. spent at Tunbridge Welles, in 

1 9 dayes stay - 261. 8s. 

" 1650. April 8. It. paid Mr. Lilly [Sir Peter] for 

my wife's picture - 51 

" 1651. April 21. It. paid Mr. Lelie for my picture, 

51. It. paid him for my wife's 

picture, being larger, 101. It. 

given Mr. Lelie's man, 5s. 

April 23. It. paid Frank Rower for a frame 

for my wife's picture 41. 

Aug. 7. Spent in Spring Gardens, and coach 

hire thither - - 17s. 

Sept. 3. Baubles at Bartholomew fayre, 4s. 

Oct. 3. It. given the Scots prisoners, 8s. 

Nov. 13. It. paid for bringing a great cake 

from Richborow - 3s. 

March 9. Twelve paire of gloves given my 

Valentine, the Lady Palmer 

11. 12s. 

March 22. It. paid Mr. Lilly for Mrs. Mon- 

tague's picture, the larger size 

The entry concerning the celebrated Henry 
Lawes, Milton's Tuneful Harry, is very interest- 
ing, and is well illustrated by the following dedi- 
cation, prefixed to Lawes' Second Book of Ayres 
and Dialogues, 1655 : 

* To the Honourable the Lady Bering, Wife to Sir 

Edward Bering, of Surenden Bering, Bart. 
" Madam, I have consider'd, but could not finde 
it lay in my power, to offer this Book to any but your 
Ladiship. Not only in regard of that honour and 
esteem you have for Musick, but because those Songs 
which fill this Book have receiv'd much lustre by your 
excellent performance of them ; and (which I confesse 
I rejoice to speak of) some, which I esteem the best of 
these ayres, were of your own composition, after your 
noble husband was pleas'd to give the words. For 
(although your Ladiship resolv'd to keep it private) I 
beg leave to declare, for my own honour, that you are 
not only excellent for the time you spent in the prac- 
tice of what I set, but are your self so good a composer, 
that few of any sex have arriv'd to such perfection. So 
as this Book (at least a part of it) is not Dedicated, 
but only brought home to your Ladiship. And here 
I would say (could I do it without sadness), how pre- 
tious to my thoughts is the memory of your excellent 
Mother (that great example of prudence and charity), 
whose pious meditations were often advanc'd by hear- 
ing your voice. 1 wish all prosperity to your Ladi- 
ship, and to him who (like yourself) is made up of 
Harmony; to say nothing of the rest of his high 
accomplishments of wisdome and learning. May you 
both live long, happy in each other, when I am become 

who, while I am in this world, shall be ever 
found! Madame, 

" Your Ladiship 's humble Admirer 
" and faithful Servant, 


The Derings appear to have been great lovers 
and patrons of music ; and one of their family, 
Richard, practised the art as his profession. This 
excellent musician was educated in Italy; and, 
when his education was completed, he returned to 
England with great reputation. He resided in his 
own country for some time, but, upon a very 
pressing invitation, went to Brussels, and became 
organist to the convent of English nuns there. 
From the marriage of Charles I., until the time 
when that monarch left England, he was organist 
to the Queen. In 1610 he was admitted to the 
degree of Bachelor In Music at Oxford, and died 
inthe communion of the Church of Rome, about 
the year 1657. EDWARD F. RIMBAULT. 


A piece of topographical history was disclosed 
at the recent trial of a cause at Westminster, 
which it may be worth while to record among 
your " Notes." The Dean and Chapter of West- 
minster are possessed of the manor of Westbourne 
Green, in the parish of Paddington, parcel of the 
possessions of the extinct Abbey of Westminster. 
It must have belonged to the Abbey when Domes- 
day was compiled; for, though neither Westbourne 
nor Knightsbridge (also a manor of the same house) 
is specially named in that survey, yet we know, 
from a later record, viz. a Quo Warranto in 22 
Edward I., that both of those manors were mem- 
bers, or constituent hamlets, of the vill of West- 
minster, which is mentioned in Domesday among 
the lands of the Abbey. The most considerable 
tenant under the abbot in this vill was Bainiardus, 
probably the same Norman associate of the Con- 
queror who is called Baignardus and Bainardus in 
other parts of the survey, and who gave his name 
to Baynard's Castle. 

The descent of the land held by him of the 
abbot cannot be clearly traced : but his name long 
remained attached to part of it; and, as late as 
the year 1653, a parliamentary grant of the Abbey 
or Chapter lands to Foxcrafte and another, de- 
scribes " the common field at Paddington " as 
being " near to a place commonly called Baynard's 

In 1720, the lands of the Dean and Chapter in 
the same common field are described, in a terrier 
of the Chapter, to be in the occupation of Alex- 
ander Bond, of Bear's Watering, in the same parish 
of Paddington. 

^ The common field referred to, is the well-known 
piece of garden ground lying between Craven 

JAN. 13. 1850.1 



Hill and the Uxbridge road, called also Bayswater 

We may therefore fairly conclude, that this 
portion of ground, always remarkable for its 
springs of excellent water, once supplied water to 
Baynard, his household, or his cattle; that the 
memory of his name was preserved in the neigh- 
bourhood for six centuries ; and that his watering- 
place now figures on the outside of certain green 
omnibuses in the streets of London, under the 
name of BAYSWATER. E. S. 


Being a subscriber to Mr. O'Donovan's new 
translation of The Annals of the Four Masters, I 
beg to inform your correspondent, " A HAPLESS 
HUNTEJB " (No. 6. p. 92.), that the copy which I 
possess begins with the year U72; consequently, 
it is hopeless to refer to the years 1135 and 1169. 
In 1 1 73 the death of Mulmurry Mac-Murrough 
is recorded ; as also of Dermot O'Kaelly, from 
whom the family name of Kelly is derived ; but I 
do not find any notice of the daughter of Dermot 
MacMurrough. J. I. 


If some earlier note-maker has not anticipated 
me, please to inform your correspondent from 
Malvern Wells that the published portion of the 
Annals of the Four Masters, by Q'Donovan, com- 
mences with the year 1172. The earlier portion 
of the Annals is in the press, and will shortly ap- 
pear. When it sees the light, your querist will, 
it is to be hoped, find an answer. A query, ad- 
dressed personally to Mr. O'Donovan, Queen's 
College, Galway, would, no doubt, meet with a 
ready reply from that learned and obliging Irish 
scholar and historian. K G. 


" A HAPLESS HUNTER " -will find, in the Statute 
of Kilkenny (edited by James Hardiman, Esq., 
M.R.I.A. for the Irish Archaeological Society in 
1H4:)), pp.28, 29. note, two incidental notices of 
Eva, daughter of Dermot M'Morrough ; the first, 
her witnessing a grant made by Richard Strong- 
bow, Earl of Pembroke, during his lifetime ; and 
tin- second, a grant made by her to John Coinyn, 
Archbishop of Dublin, in the reign of Richard I. 
(at least sixteen years after her husband's death), 
" pro salute anime mee et domini comitis Ricanii," 
&e. Should he not have an opportunity of con- 
nutuuj the work, I shall have much pleasure in 
furnishing the entire extract, on receiving a line 
from hinu JOHN TOWERS. 

1(X Dorchester Place, Blandford Square. 

(IlraMus Cambrensis mentions, that MacMur- 
rough, having, iu the year 1167, procured letters 

patent from Henry II., repaired to England, and 
there induced Strongbow, Earl of Pembroke and 
Strighul, to engage to aid him, on condition of 
receiving, in return, the hand of his eldest daugh- 
ter, Eva, and the heirship of his dominions. 
Girald Camb. p. 761. And further, that Strong- 
bow did not arrive in Ireland until the eve of St. 
Bartholomew's day, September 1170; he was 
joined at Waterford by Eva and her father, and 
the marriage took place a few days after, and 
during the sacking of that place. Ibid. p. 773. 

" Strongbow left, by his second wife Eva, one daugh- 
ter, named Isabella, an infant. * * * Richard the First 
gave Isabella in marriage to William de la Grace, who 
thus became Earl of Pembroke, and was created First 
Earl Marshal of England," &c. Fen ton's Hist. Pem- 
brokeshire. SKLEUCUS. 


I have placed under this title in my note-books, 
more than one instance of similarity of thought, 
incident, or expression that I have met with during 
a somewhat desultory course of reading. These 
instances I shall take the liberty of laying before 
you from time to time, leaving you and your 
readers to decide whether such similarity be the 
effect of accident or design ; but I flatter myself 
that they may be accepted as parallel passages and 
illustrations, even by those who may differ from me 
in the opinion I have formed on the relation which 
my " loci inter se comparand! " bear to each other. 

In Lady Blessington's Conversations with Lord 
Byron, pages 176, 177., the poet is represented as 
stating that the lines 

" While Memory, with more than Egypt's art, 
Embalming all the sorrows of the heart, 
Sits at the altar which she raised to woe, 
And feeds the source whence tears eternal flow!" 

suggested to his mind, " by an unaccountable 
and incomprehensible power of association," the 
thought . 

" Memory, the mirror which affliction dashes to the 
earth, and, looking down upon the fragments, only 
beholds the reflection multiplied;" 

afterwards apparently embodied in Childe Harold^ 

iii. 33. 

" Even as a broken mirror, which the glass 

In every fragment multiplies ; and makes 

A thousand images of one that was, 

The same, and still the more, the more it breaks." 

Now, Byron was, by his own showing, an ardent 
admirer of Burton's Anatomy of Melancholy. See 
Moore's Life of Byron, vol. i. page 144. Notices 
of the year 1807. 

Turn to Burton, and you will find the following 
passage : 

" And, as Praxiteles did by his glass, when he saw a 
scurvy face in it, brake it to pieces, but for that one, 



[No. 11, 

he saw many more as bad in a moment." Part 2. 
sect. 3. mem. 7. 

I am uncharitable enough to believe that Childe 
Harold owes far more to Burton, than to " the 
unaccountable and incomprehensible power of 
association." MELANION. 


I think your correspondent in No. 6. p. 93., 
starts on wrong premises; he seems to take for 
granted that such a structure as Belin's Gate 
really existed. Now the story entirely rests on 
the assertion of Geoffrey of Monmouth. What 
amount of credit may be placed on that veracious 
and most unromantic historian, your correspondent 
doubtless knows better than myself. Geoffrey 
says, in the 10th chap, of the 3rd book, that Belin, 
among other great works, made a wonderful gate 
on the bank of the Thames, and built over it a 
large tower, and under it a wharf for ships ; and 
when he died his body was burned, and his ashes 
put into a golden urn on the top of the tower. 
Stow seems to doubt it. In Strype's edition, 
1720, he says, concerning this gate, " Leaving out 
the fable thereof faming it to be builded by King 
Belin, a Briton, long before the incarnation of 
Christ." Burton, writing 1722, mentions the 
legend, but adds, " But whether of that antiquity 
is doubted." And John Brydall, in 1676, men- 
tions it only as a wharf or quay for ships. Now, 
as Geoffrey of Monmouth's Chronicle is generally 
allowed by critics to be but a mass of romance and 
monkish legends, built on a slight foundation of 
truth, we may suppose this account to partake of 
the general character of the rest of the work. 
That some circumstance gave rise to the name is 
not to be doubted. " Haply," says Stow, " some 
person of that name lived near." I look on the 
name as only a corruption or romantic alteration 
of the word Baal or Bel ; and, as we have every 
reason to suppose he was worshipped by part of 
the aborigines of this country, I deem it not im- 
probable that on or near this spot might once have 
existed a temple for his worship, which afterwards 
gave a name to the place. It is true Baal generally 
had 1m temples placed on the summit of lofty 
mountains or other eminences. But supposing a 
number of his votaries to have settled near London, 
and on the banks of the Thames, nothing would be 
more likely than, to obviate the natural lowness of 
the ground, they would raise a tower for the better 
celebration of the ceremonies attendant on his 
worship. This might have been the foundation 
upon which Geoffrey built his story. However I 
only suggest this. The real origin of the name I 
am afraid is too far sunk in oblivion to hold out 
any hopes of its being rescued at the present day. 

If " WILLIAM WILLIAMS" will examine the 
map of London in 1543, lately engraved from a 
drawing in the Bodleian Library, he will perceive 
the " Water Gate, " about which he inquires, 
defended on the west side by a lofty hexagonal 
machicolated tower. C. S. 


In order to forward your views as regards the 
valuable department of u Notes from Fly-Leaves" 
I have spent some leisure hours in beating 1 the 
covers of a portion of my library. I send you the 
produce of my first day's sport, which, you will ob- 
serve, has been in the fields of poetry. Make what 
use of it you think fit, selecting such notes only as 
you think of sufficient interest for publication. 

I. Note in the handwriting of Richard Farmer, 
in a copy of " Canidia, or the Witches ; a Rhapsody 
in five parts, by R. D." 4to. London, printed by 
S. Roycroft for Robert Clavell, 1683. 

" In Mr. Button's Catal* P. 65. N. 1552. this 
strange composition is ascribed to one Dixon. There 
was a Robert Dixon, an author about the time, and 
D. D. (Wood's Fasti, v. ii. p. 103.), but it surely must 
not be given to him ! Qu.? This is the only copy I 
have seen, 1785." 

[Lowndes has the work under the name of 
Robert Dixon, D.D.] 

II. Note in the handwriting of James Bindley, 
in a copy of an English translation of Milton's 
" Defensio pro Populo Anglicano," printed in the 
year 1692. 

" Translated into English by Richard Washington, 
Esq., of the Middle Temple." 

On another page, however, he has written, 

" Mem. in a miscellany called * Poems on Affairs of 
State,' 8vo. 5th edit. 1703, at page 223. 'In memory of 
Joseph Washington, Esq., late of the Middle Temple, 
an elegy written by N. Tate, Servant to their Majes- 
ties.' Though Mr. Warton calls him Richard, his 
name was, I believe, as above, and the translator most 
likely of this book J. B." 

To this is added, in the handwriting of the late 
Mr. Ford, bookseller, formerly of Manchester 

" The note on the opposite side, signed J. B., stands 
for James Bindley, who may be considered as good 
authority for what is here asserted. Some curious in- 
formation will be found relative to the original work in 
' Diction, des Livres Condamnes,' &c., par Peignot. 
torn. ii. p. 319." 

III. Note in the handwriting of Mr. Ford, in a 
copy of Fletcher's " Purple Island," &c. 1633. 

"See the lines at the end by Francis Quarles, which 
are ingenious and poetical. This curious and very rare 
volume I purchased out of Longman's celebrated cata- 
logue of old English poetry, called 'Bib. Ang. Poet.,' 
where it will be found marked 2 12*. 6d., which is 
what it cost me. Mr. Montgomery, the poet, styles 

JAN. 12. 1850.] 



this poem a fantastical allegory describing the body anc 
soul of man, but containing many rich and picturesque 
passages (v. his ' Christian Poet,' p. 163.). But there 
is a most excellent critique upon it in the ' Retrosp. 
Rev.' for Nov. 1820 (v. p. 351.), but see also Headley, 
who highly praises it. The name of Fletcher ranks 
high in the list of our poets. He was born in 1584, 
and was the son of Dr. Giles Fletcher, who was him- 
self a poet ; the brother of Giles Fletcher, the author 
of * Christ's Victory ;' and the cousin of John Fletcher, 
the celebrated dramatist." 

IV. In a note on a copy of " Iter Boreale, with 
large additions of several other poems, being an 
exact collection of all hitherto extant ; never before 
published together. The author R. Wild, D. D., 
printed for the booksellers in London, 1668," the 
author is described as " of Tatenill, near Burton 
sup r Trent." The note is apparently of contem- 
porary date, or a little later. 

This edition is not noticed by Lowndes, nor is 
another edition (anonymous), of which I have a 
copy, the date of which is 1605 (printed for 
R. J., and are to be sold in St. Paul's Church- 
yard). Of course this date is a mistake, but query 
what is the real date? Probably 1665. The 
volume concludes with the 70th page, being iden- 
tical with the 72nd page of the edition of 1668. 

V. Note in the handwriting of Mr. Ford, in a 
copy of " Waller's Poems," 1645 (after quoting 
"Rymer on Tragedy," pp. 2. and 79.) : 

" The dedicatory epistle in this first and rare edition 
To my Lady,' i omitted in all the subsequent editions, 
even in Fenton's of 1729 (see Dibdin). I find it M 
inserted in Fenton's edition among the speeches and 
letters ; but he adds, in his observations thereon, that it 
appears not to have been designed for a public dedica- 
tion, though why or wherefore he assigns no reason ; 
and he further adds, ' I never met with any tradition 
to what Lady it was originally directed.' It certainly 
has as much the appearance of having been intended 
for a dedication, if we may judge from internal evidence, 
as such sort of things generally have. 'Ibis is the first 
genuine edition and very scarce. It is priced in the 
Bib. Ang. Poet.' at 2 gs. No. 851. The subsequent 
editions are of no particular value, excepting Fenton's 
elegant and complete edition in 4to., which is worth 
about the same sum." 

VI. Note in a handwriting of the 17th century, 
in a copy of Cawood's edition of the " Ship of 
Fools," opposite to the dedication, which is " Vene- 
randissimo in Christo Patri ac Domino, domino 
Thomae Cornissh, Tenenensis pontifici, ac diocesis 
B;i<lonensis Suffraganio vigil an tissimo," &c. 

"Thomas Cornish, in 1421-2, was made Suffragan 
Bishop to Rich. Fox, BP of Bath and Wells, under y 
title of Episcopus Tynensis,' by w h I suppose is meant 
1 yne, y e last island belonging to y e republick of Venice 
m y Archipelago. See more of him in 'Athena 
Oxomens.' vol. i. p. 555." 

VII. Note by T. Park, in a copy of the third 
edition of an "Essay on Human Life," by the 

author of the "Essay on Man," 1736. (Printed 
for J. Witford.) 

"By Lord Pagett. 1st ed 1734. 4to. says Lord 
Orford. An ed n in Hvo. was printed in 1736 'for Fletcher 
Gyles against Grays Inn in Holbourn,' and was called 
(as this is) the third; but it gave no delusive intima- 
tion in the title that Pope was the author, honestly as- 
signing it to the Right Hon. Lord Pagett. To the 
preface was added a short postscript." 

On another page he has written : 

'* This is perhaps the most successful imitation of 
Pope's ethic poem which has been produced. Lord 
Paget has had the credit of composing it." 

In another handwriting there is written : 
" From Mr. Newton, a valuable present, June 25. 

Under which Mr. Park has added : 
" Qu. from Newton to Cowper, whose handwriting 
resembles the above." 

VIII. I have a little book entitled, "The 
Original History of Old Robin Gray ; with the ad- 
ventures of Jenny and Sandy: a Scotch Tale;" 
n. d. printed for H. Turpin. A prose narrative, 
apparently intended for children, but which Mr. 
Haslewood has enriched with a number of news- 
paper cuttings and other illustrations, and has 
added the following note : 

" Atild Robin Gray ; a ballad by the Right Honour- 
able Lady Anne Barnard, born Lady Anne Lindsay of 
Balcarras; Edin. printed by James Ballantyne and 
Co. 1825, qto. This is the first authentic edition of 
this beautiful Scottish ballad, and forms one of the pub- 
lications by Sir Walter Scott as a member of the Ban- 
natyne Club. The publication gives an interesting 
account of the authoress of the origin of the ballad 
the ballad continuation of Auld Robin Gray, all 
from the same hand; it is to be regretted it is not 
published for wider circulation. It will, it may be ex- 
pected, find a vent for the publick at some future 
period, and some of the gatherings in this volume swell 
a note or two, if not a page. See ' Cens. Lib.' vol. ix. 
p. 323. for another ballad called, ' Continuation of 
Auld Robin Gray.' Auld Robin Gray's Ghaist begins 
' Right sweetly sang the nightingale,' among my 
Scotch songs. The sequel to Auld Robin Gray begins, 
' Full five long years ' in do." 




II. Lord Clarendon. 

" This great historian is always too free with his 
udgments. But the piety is more eminent than the 
superstition in this great man's foibles." Bishop 
Warburton, note, last edition, vol. vii. p. 59O. 

It is to be hoped no more chancellors will write 
our story, till they can divest themselves of that habit 
of their profession, apologising for a bad cause." H. 
Walpole, Note in Historic Doubts. 

" Clarendon was unquestionably a lover of truth, 



[No. 11. 

and a sincere friend to the free constitution of his 
country. He defended that constitution in Parliament, 
with zeal and energy, against the encroachments of 
prerogative, and concurred in the establishment of new 
securities for its protection." Lord Grenville, Note in 
Chatham Correspondence, vol. i. p. 113. 

" We suffer ourselves to be delighted by the keen- 
ness of Clarendon's observations, and by the sober 
majesty of his style, till we forget the oppressor and 
the bigot in the historian." Macaulay, Essays, vol. ii. 
p. 281. 

" There is no historian, ancient or modern, with 
whose writings it so much behoves an Englishman to be 
thoroughly conversant, as Lord Clarendon." Southey, 
Life of Cromwell. 

" The genuine text of the history has only been 
published in 1826," says Mr. Hallam, who speaks of 
" inaccuracy as habitual to him ;" and further, " as no 
one, who regards with attachment the present system 
of the English constitution, can look upon Lord 
Clarendon as an excellent minister, or a friend to the 
soundest principles of civil and religious liberty, so no 
man whatever can. avoid considering his incessant 
deviations from the great duties of an historian as a 
moral blemish in his character. He dares very fre- 
quently to say what is not true, and what he must 
have known to be otherwise ; he does not dare to say 
what is true, and it is almost an aggravation of this 
reproach, that he aimed to deceive posterity, and 
poisoned at the fountain a stream from which another 
generation was to drink. No defence has ever been 
set up for the fidelity of Clarendon's history ; nor can 
men, who have sifted the authentic materials, entertain 
much difference of judgment in this respect ; though, 
as a monument of powerful ability and impressive 
eloquence, it will always be read with that delight 
which we receive from many great historians, especially 
the ancient, independent of any confidence in their 
veracity." Hallam, Constitutional History, 8vo. vol. ii. 
p. 502. 

" His style i a little long-winded ; but, on the other 
hand, his characters may match those of the ancient 
historians ; and one thinks they would know the very 
men if you were to meet them in society. Few English 
writers have the same precision, either in describing 
the actors in great scenes, or the deeds which they 
performed ; he was himself deeply engaged in the 
scenes which he depicts, and therefore colours them 
with the individual feeling, and sometimes, doubtless, 
with the partiality, of a partizan. Yet, I think he is, 
on the whole, a fair writer ; for though he always en- 
deavours to excuse King Charles, yet he points out his 
mistakes and errors, which certainly were neither few 
nor of slight importance." Scott, Life by Lochhart 
vol. v. p. 146. 

Other opinions as to the noble writer will be 
found in the Life of Calamy, and in Lord Dover's 
Essay ; but I have perhaps already trespassed too 
much on your space. M. 


Books by the Yard. Many of your readers 
have heard of books bought and sold by weight, 

in fact it is questionable whether the number of 
books sold in that way is not greater than those 
sold " over the counter," but few have probably 
heard of books sold "by the yard." Having 
purchased at St. Petersburg, the library left by 
an old Russian nobleman of high rank, I was 
quite astonished to find a copy of CEuvres de 
Frederic TL originally published in 15 vols., 
divided into 60, to each of which a new title had 
been printed.; and several hundred volumes lettered, 
outside CEuvres de Miss Burney, CEuvres de Swift, 
&C., but containing, in fact, all sorts of French. 
waste paper books. These, as well as three editions 
of CEuvres de Voltaire, were all very neatly bound 
in calf, gilt, and with red morocco backs. My 
curiosity being roused, I inquired into the origin 
of these circumstances, and learnt that during the 
reign of Catherine, every courtier who had hopes 
of being honoured by a visit from the Empress, was 
expected to have a library, the greater or smaller 
extent of which was to be regulated by the fortune 
of its possessor, and that, after Voltaire had won 
the favour of the Autocrat by his servile flattery, 
one or two copies of his works were considered 
indispensable. Every courtier was thus forced 
to have a room fitted up with mahogany shelves, 
and filled with books, by far the greater number 
of which he never read or even opened. A book- 
seller of the name of Klostermann, who, being of 
an athletic stature, was one of the innumerable 
favourites of the lady " who loved all things save 
her lord," was usually employed, not to select a 
library, but to fill a certain given space of so many 
yards, with books, at so much per volume, and 
Mr. Klostermann, the " Libraire de la Cour Im- 
periale," died worth a plum, having sold many 
thousand yards of books (among which I under- 
stood there were several hundred copies of 
Voltaire), at from 50 to 100 roubles a yard, " ac- 
cording to the binding.*' A. ASHER. 
Berlin, Dee. 1849. 

Thistle of Scotland.-^ R. L. will find the thistle 
first introduced on coins during the reign of 
James V., although the motto " Nemo me impune 
lacessit" was not adopted until two reigns later. 
See Lindsay's Coinage of Scotland, Longman, 
1845. B.N, 

Miry-land Town. In the Athenaum, in an 
article on the tradition respecting Sir Hugh of 
Lincoln, the Bishop of Dromore's version of the 
affair is. thus given : 

" The rain rins doun through Mirry-land toune, 

Sae dois it doune the Pa'; 
Sae dois the lads of Mirry-land toune, 

Quhan they play at the Ba'." 

In explanation of part of this stanza, Dr. Percy 
is stated to have considered " Mirry-land toune " 
to be "probably a corruption of Milan (called by 
the Dutch Meylandt) town," and that the Pa' 

JAN. 12. 1850.] 



was " evidently the river Po, though the Adige, no* 
the Po, runs through Milan;" and jt is observed 
that it could not have occasioned Dr. Jamieson 
much tremble to conjecture as he did that " Mirry- 
land toune" was a corruption of "Merry Lin- 
colne," and that, in fact, in 1783, Pinkerton 
commenced his version of the ballad thus 

" The bonnie boys o' merry Lincoln ;" 
and it is added, very truly, that with all his haste 
and petulance, Pinkerton's critical acumen was 
far from inconsiderable. Now, there appears to 
me to have been a very simple solution of the 
above words, so simple that perhaps it was beneath 
the critical acumen of the said commentators. 
My note on the subject is, that Mirry-land toune 
means nothing more than Miry-, Muddy-land 
Town, a designation that its situation certainly 
entitles it to ; and Pa' is certainly not the Po, but 
an ^abbreviated form of Pall, i.e. a place to play 
Ba' or ball in, of which we have a well-known 
instance in Pall Mall. 

Since writing the above, I recollect that Romsey, 
in Hampshire, has been designated "Romsey-in- 
the-Mud." J, R. F. 

Richard Greene of Lichfield. H. T. E. is in- 
formed that there is a medal or token (not difficult 
to obtain) of this zealous antiquary. Qbv. his 
bust, in the costume of the period; legend, 
" Richard Greene, collector of the Lichfield Mu- 
seum, died June 4. 1793, aged 77." Rev. a Gothic 
window, apparently; leaend, "West Porch of 
Lichfield Cathedral, 1800." B.N. 

The Lobster in the Medal of the Pretender. 
The "Notes" by your correspondents, Mr. Edward 
Hawkins and Mr. J. B. Yates, relative to this medal, 
are very curious and interesting, and render it 
probable that the device of the Lobster has a reli- 
gious rather than a political allusion. But it strikes 
us that the double introduction of this remarkable 
emblem has a more important signification than 
the mere insidious and creeping characteristics of 
Jesuitism. The lines beneath the curious print in 
Brandt's Stultifera Navis throw no light on the 
meaning of the Lobster. We think the difficulty 
yet remains unsolved. B. N. 

Marescautia. Your correspondent "D. S.'' 
who asks (in No. 6.) for information upon the 
word " Marescautia," may consult Du Cange with 
advantage, *. v. " Marescallus ; " the " u," which 
perhaps was your correspondent's difficulty, being 
often written for "1," upon phonotypic principles. 
It was anciently the practice to apportion the re- 
venues of royal and great monastic establishments 
to some specific branch of the expenditure ; and 
as the profits of certain manors, &c., are often de- 
scribed as belonging to the " Infirmaria," the 
" Camera Abbatis," &c., so, in the instance referred 
to by " D. S," the lands at Cumpton and Little 

Ongar were apportioned to 
royal stable and farriery. 

the support of the 

Macaulays " Young Levite." The following 
is an additional illustration of Mr. Macaulay's 
sketch, from Bishop Hall's Byting Satyres, 1599 : 
" A gentle squire would gladly entertaine 
Into his house some Trencher-chaptlai ne ; 
Some willing man, that might instruct his sons, 
And that would stand to good conditions. 
First, that he lie upon the truckle-bed, 
While his young maister lieth o'er his head ; 
Second, that he do, upon no default, 
Never to sit above the salt ; 

Third, that he never change his trencher twise ; 
Fourth, that he use all common courtesies, 
Sit bare at meales, and one half rise and wait ; 
Last, that he never his yong maister beat, 
But he must aske his mother to define 
How manie jerks she would his breech should line ; 
All these observ'd, he could contented be, 
To give five markes, and winter liverie." 


Travelling in England. I forward you a note 
on this subject, extracted, some years ago, from 
a very quaintly-written History oj England, with- 
out title-page, but apparently written in the early 
part of the reign of George the First. It is 
among the remarkable events of the reign of 
James the First : 

"A.D. 1621, July the 17th, Bernart Calvart of 
Andover, rode from Saint George's Church in South- 
wark to Dover, from thence passed by Barge to 
('a 11 a is in France, and from thence returned back to 
Saint George's Church the same day. This his jour- 
ney he performed betwixt the hours of three in the 
morning and eight in the afternoon." 

This appears to me such a surprising feat, that I 
think some of your correspondents may be in- 
terested in it; and also may be able to append 
farther information. DAVID STEVENS. 

Warning to Watchmen. The following Warn- 
ing, addressed to the Watchmen of London on the 
occasion of a great fire, which destroyed nearly 
100 houses in the neighbourhood of Exchange 
Alley, Birchin Lane, the back of George Yard, &c., 
among which were Garraway's, the Jerusalem 
Coffee House, George and Vulture, Tom's, &c. &c., 
is extracted from the London Magazine for 
1748, and is very characteristic of the then state 
of the police of the metropolis : 

" Mr. Touchit's Warning to the Watchmen of London. 
From the Westminster Journal, April 2nd, No. 331. 

" Whereas it has been represented to me, Thomas 
Toiichit, Watchman Extraordinary of the City of 
Westminster, that the Watchmen of London were very 
remiss during the dreadful Fire on Friday morning, 
March 25, in not giving timely Notice of that Calamity 
over their several Beats, whereby the Friends of many 



[No. 11, 

of the unhappy Sufferers, who would have flown to 
their Assistance, were ignorant of their Distress till i 
was too late to do them Service ; and also that mos 
of the said Watchmen, on other Occasions, are very 
negligent, whence it happens that many Robberies 
Burglaries, and other Offences, which their Care might 
prevent are committed ; and that even some of them 
are in Fee with common Harlots and Streetwalkers, 
whom they suffer at unseasonable Hours, unmolested 
to prey on the Virtue, Health and Property of His 
Majesty's Liege Subjects: Be it known to the said 
Watchmen, and their Masters, that, having taken the 
Premises into Consideration, I intend whenever I set 
out from Spring Gardens with my invisible Cup, my 
irradiating Lanthorn, and my Oken Staff of correction, 
to take the City of London, under Leave of the Right 
Hon. the Lord Mayor, into my Rounds, and to detect, 
expose, and punish all Defaulters in the several Stands 
and Beats : Whereof this fair Warning is given, that 
none may be surprized in Neglect of Duty, I being 
determined to shew no Favour to such Offenders. " 
Euston Square, 12th Dec. 1849. 

JElfric's Colloquy. Permit me to correct a 
singular error into which the great Anglo-Saxon 
scholars, Messrs. Lye and B. Thorpe, have been 
betrayed by some careless transcriber of the cu- 
rious Monastic Colloquy by the celebrated vElfric. 
This production of the middle ages is very dis- 
tinctly written, both in the Saxon and Latin por- 
tions, in the Cotton MS. (Tiberius, A 3, fol. 
58 b.) Mr. Lye frequently cites it, in his Saxon 
Dictionary, as "Coll. Mon." and Mr. Thorpe 
gives it entire in his Analecta Anglo- Saxonica. 
The former loosely explains higdifutu, which oc- 
curs in the reply of the shoewright (sceowyrhta), 
thus " Ca/idilia, sc. vasa qucedam.Coll. Mon" 
and Mr. Thorpe prints both higdifatu and cali- 
dilia. Higdifatu is manifestly vessels of hides, 
such as skin and leather bottles and buckets. The 
ig is either a clerical error of the monkish scribe 
for y, or the g is a silent letter producing the 
quantity of the vowel. " I buy hides and fells," 
says the workman, "and with my craft I make 
of them shoes of different kinds ; leathern hose, 
flasks, and higdifatu:' The Latin word in this 
MS. is casidilia, written with the long straight 
*. Du Cange explains capsilis to be a vessef of 
leather, and quotes Matt. Westmon. : "Portans 
cassidile toxicum mellitum." Gloss, torn. ii. coL 
387. The root caps, or cos, does not appear to 
have any Teutonic correspondent, and may merit 
a philological investigation. R. T. HAMPSON. 

Humble Pie. The proverbial expression of 
"eating humble pie," explained by A. G., will be 
found also explained in the same manner in the 
Appendix to Forby's Vocabulary, where it is sug- 
gested that the correct orthography would be 
umble pie, ' without the aspirate. Bailey, in his 
valuable old Dictionary, traces the word properly 
o umbilicus, the region of the intestines, and 

acknowledges in his time the perquisite of the 
game-keeper. J. I. 


By Hook or by Crook. You have noted the 
origin of Humble Pie. May I add a note of a 
saying, in my opinion also derived from forest 
customs, viz. "By hook or by crook?" Persons 
entitled to fuel wood in the king's forest, were only 
authorised to take it of the dead wood or branches 
of trees in the forest, " with a cart, a hook, and a 

The answer to the query respecting the meaning 
of "per serjantiam Marescautiae," is the Serjeantry 
of Farriery, i. e. shoeing the king's horses. In 
Maddox, vol. i. p. 43. you will find a very full 
account of the office of Marescallus. J. R. P. 


"Written on board the Berwick, a few days 
before Admiral Parker's engagement with the 
Dutch fleet, on the 5th of August, 1781. By 

" 'Tis sung on proud Olympus' hill 

The Muses bear record, 
Ere half the gods had drank their fill 

The sacred nectar sour'd. 
" At Neptune's toast the bumper stood, 

Britannia crown'd the cup ; 
A thousand Nereids from the flood 

Attend to serve it up. 
*' * This nauseous juice,' the monarch cries, 

' Thou darling child of fame, 
Tho' it each earthly clime denies, 

Shall never bathe thy name. 
" Ye azure tribes that rule the sea, 

And rise at my command, 
Bid Vernon mix a draught for me 

To toast his native land.' 
" Swift o'er the waves the Nereids flew, 

Where Fernon's flag appear'd ; 
Around the shores they sung True Blue,' 

And Britain's hero cheer'd. 
" A mighty bowl on deck he drew, 

And filled it to the brink ; 
Such drank the Burford's* gallant crew, 

And such the gods shall drink. 
" The sacred robe which Vernon wore 

Was drenched within the same ; 
And hence his virtues guard our shore, 
And Grog derives its name." 

W. H. S. 

[The gallant correspondent to whom we are indebted 
for the foregoing satisfactory, because early and docu- 
mentary, evidence of the etymology of the now familiar 
:erm GROG, informs us that there is a still earlier 
ballad on the subject. We trust that he will be 
enabled to recover that also, and put it on record in our 

* Flag-ship at the taking of Porto- Bello. 

JAN. 12. 1850.] 



Barnacles. In a Chorographical Description of 
West, or 11- Jar Connaught, by Khoderic O'Flaherty, 
Esq., 1684, published by the Irish Archaeological 
Society in 1846, the bernacle goose is thus men- 
tioned : 

" There is the bird engendered by the sea out of 
timber long lying in the sea. Some call them dakes, 
and inland geese, and some puffins; others bernacles, be- 
cause they resemble them. We call them girrinn. 

Martin, in his Western Isles of Scotland, says: 

" There are also the cleek geese. The shells in which 
this fowl is said to be produced, are found in several 
isles sticking to trees by the bill ; of this kind 1 have 
seen many, the fowl was covered by a shell, and the 
head stuck to the tree by the bill, but never saw any of 
them with life in them upon the tree ; but the natives 
told me that they had observed them to move with the 
heat of the sun." See also Gratianus, Lucius, Ware's 
Antiquities, &c. 

Eating sea-birds on fast days is a very ancient 
custom. Socrates mentions it in the 5th century : 
" Some along with fish eat also birds, saying, that 
according to Moses, birds like fish were created out 
of the waters." Mention is made in Martin's 
Western Isles, of a similar reason for eating seals 
in Lent. Cormorants, " as feeding only on fish," 
were allowable food on fast days, as also were 
otters. CEREDWYN. 

VondeVs Lucifer. I cannot inform your corre- 
spondent F. (No. 9. p. 142.), whether Vondei's 
Lucifer has ever been translated into English, but 
he will find reasons for its not being worth trans- 
lating, in the Foreign Quarterly Review for April, 
1829, where the following passage occurs : 

" Compare him with Milton, for his Lucifer gives 
the fairest means of comparison. How weak are his 
highest flights compared with those of the bard of 
Paradise ! and how much does Vondel sink beneath him 
in his failures I Now and then the same thought may 
be found in both, but the points of resemblance are not 
in passages which do Milton's reputation the highest 

The scene of this strange drama is laid in Heaven, 
and the dramatis pernonce are as follows : 

Beelzebub ] 

Belial I Disobedient Officers. 

Apollion J 

Gabriel (Interpreter of God's secrets). 

Troop of Angels. 


Luciferists ( Rebellious Spirits). 

Michael (Commander-in-chief). 

Rafael (Guardian Angel). 

Uriel (Michael's Esquire). 
Act I. Scene 1. Beelzebub, Belial, Apollion, &c. 

I give this from the original Dutch now before 
me. HERMES. 

Dutch Version ofDr.Faustus. Can any of your 
correspondents give me information as to the 

author of a Dutch History of Dr. Faustus, without 
either author's name or date, and illustrated by very 
rude engravings ? There is no mention of where 
it was printed, but at the bottom of the title-page 
is the following notice : 

" Compared with the high Dutch copy, and corrected 
in many places, and ornamented with beautiful copper 

There is also a promise of a Latin copy soon to 
follow. HERMES. 

[The first German chap-book upon Fount appeared 
in 1587. A translation of it into Dutch was published 
as early as 1592, at Emmerich. It was again printed 
at Delft in 1607 ; and there have been several editions 
since that date. The curious history of this romance 
has been well investigated by H. Diintzer, Die Sage 
von Doctor Johannes Faust, in the 5th volume of Das 
Kloster; and even more fully by the Freiherr v. Reichlien 
Meldegg, in the llth volume of the same work.] 

To Fettle. Your correspondent L. C. R. (p. 
142.) is referred to the late Mr.Roger Wilbrahanfs 
Cheshire Glossary, or (as he modestly termed it) 
An Attempt, &c. This work, privately printed in 
1820, is the republication, but with very consider- 
able additions, of a paper in the Archceologia, vol. 

The explanation of the present word is an in- 
stance of this expansion. 

Your correspondent and Mr. W. agree as to the 
meaning of this verb, viz. * to mend, to put in 
order any thing which is broken or defective." 
Being used in this sense, Mr. W. differs from 
Johnson and Todd, and he is inclined to derive 
Fettle from some deflection of the word Faire, 
which comes from the Latin Facere. I must not 
crowd your columns further, but refer to the 

May I point out rather a ludicrous misprint, 
(doubtless owing to an illegible MS.) at p. 120. 
For Mr. Pickering's Lives, read Series of Aldine 
Poets. J. H. M. 

To Fetyl, v. n. To join closely. See G. factil. 
ligamen. Wyntown. 

Fettil, Fettle, s. Energy, power. S. B. 

To Fettle, v. a. To tie up. S. 

Fettle, adj. 1. Neat, tight. S. B. 2. Low in 
stature, but well-knit. S.B. 

Fetous, adj. Neat, trim. 

Fetusly, adv. Featly. 

Jamieson's Dictionary, abridged 8vo. edition. 

Fettle, v. To put in order, to repair or mend 
any thing that is oroken or defective. 

I am inclined to consider it as from the same 
root as Feat, viz. Sue Got. fatt, apt, ready. 
Swed. fatt, disposed, inclined ; fatta, to compre- 
hend. Brockett's Glossary. 

* Uyt den Hoogduitschen Exemplar overgezien, en 
op veele plaatzen Gecorrigeert, en met schoone Kopere 
Figuuren vercierd. 



[No. 11. 

Ptolemy of Alexandria. Your correspondent, 
" QUERY," wishes to be informed what works 
Ptolemy have been translated. The following, as 
far as I can learn, is a list of them, viz. : 

" The Compost of Ptholomeus, Prynce of Astro- 
nomye, translated out of Frenche into Englysshe." 
London, printed by Robert Wyer, no date, 12mo. 
There is also another edition of the same work, London, 
printed by T. Col well, without date, 12mo. 

" The Bounding of Greece-Land, according to 
Ptolomeus; Englished out of the Greek, by Thos. 
Wilson." London, 1570, 4to. 

N.B. This is included in Wilson's Translation of 
Demosthenes' Olynthiacs. 

" The Geography of Ptolemy, so far as it relates to 
Britain ; in Greek and English, with observations by 
J. Horsley." London, 1732, folio. 

N.B. This forms a part of the Britannia Romano. 

" Quadripartite ; or Four Books concerning the 
Influence of the Stars, faithfully rendered into English, 
from Leo Allatius; with Notes, explaining the most 
difficult and obscure Passages, by John Whalley." 
London, 1701 and 1786, 12mo. 

" Tetrabiblos, or Quadripartite ; being Four Books, 
of the Influence of the Stars, newly translated from the 
Greek Paraphrase of Proclus ; with a Preface, ex- 
planatory Notes, and an Appendix containing Extracts 
from the Almagest of Ptolemy, and the whole of his 
Colloquy, &c. byJ. M. Ashmand." London, 1822, 8vo. 

I am indebted to Watts' Bibliotheca Britannica 
for the titles of the first three of these works. The 
others I have in my possession. W. J. BROWN. 

Old Street. 

There are several real or pretended translations 
of the astrological work some certainly pre- 
tended- and Ptolemy's name is on many astrolo- 
gical titlepages which do not even pretend to 
translate. The Geography, as far as Britain is 
concerned, is said to be in Dr. Henry's History of 
Great Britain, 1788. Some works in harmonics 
appear in lists as translations or close imitations 
of Ptolemy, as John Keeble's, 1785, Francis 
Styles, Phil. Trans, vol. li. Various dissertations 
on minor pieces exist: but there is no English 
translation of the Almagest, &c., though it exists 
in French (see Smith's Biograph? Diet. art. 
PTOLEMY). If an English reader want to know 
Ptolemy s astronomical methods and hypotheses 
nothing will suit him better than Narrien's History 
of Astronomy. jyj 

Accuracy of References. In connection with 
the article on " Misquotations," in No. 3. p. 38., 
will you impress upon your correspondents the 
necessity of exact references ? It is rather hard 
when, after a long search, a sought reference has 
been obtained, to find that the reference itself is, on 
examination, incorrect. To illustrate my position 
at p. 23., in an article relating to Judge Skipwyth' 
and at p. 42., in an article relating to the Lions in 

the Tower, are references to certain " pp." of the 
Issue Rolls of the Exchequer. Now if any person 
with these references were to search the Issue 
Rolls, he would be much surprised to find that 
the Rolls are rolls, and not books, and that " pp." 
is not a correct reference. The fact is that neither 
of your correspondents are quoting from the Rolls 
themselves, but from a volume, published in 1835, 
under the direction of the Comptroller General of 
the Exchequer^ by Mr. F. Devon, called Issue 
Roll of Thomas de Brantingham, Bishop of 
Exeter, Lord High Treasurer of England, &c. 
44 Edward III. 

And while on the subject, permit me to remark, 
with reference to the article on the Domestic Ex- 
penses of Queen Elizabeth (page 41.), that there 
are plenty of such documents in existence, and 
that the only test of their value and authenticity 
is a reference to where they may be found, which 
is wanting in the article in question. 

J. E. 

A Peal of Bells. In No. 8. of your interesting 
and valuable journal, I find a query, from the 
Rev. A. GATTY, relative to a peal of bells. Now 
the science of bell-ringing being purely English, we 
can expect to find the explanation sought for, only 
in English authors. Dr. Johnson says peal means 
a " succession of sounds ; " and in this way it is 
used by many old writers, thus : 

" A peal shall rouse their sleep." MILTON. 
And again Addison : 
Oh for a peal of thunder that would make 
Earth, sea, and air, and heaven, and Cato tremble." 

Bacon also hath it : 

Woods of oranges will smell into the sea perhaps 
twenty miles ; but what is that, since a peal of ord- 
nance will do as much, which moveth in a small com- 
pass ? " 

It is once used by Shakspeare, in Macbeth : 
Ere to black Hecate's summons 
The shard-borne beetle, with his drowsy hums, 
Hath rung night's yawning peal, there shall be done 
A deed of dreadful note." 

Will not ringing a peal, then, mean a succession 
of sweet sounds caused by the ringing of bells in 
certain keys ? Some ringers begin with D flat ; 
others, again, contend they should begin in C 

In your last number is a query about Scar- 
borough Warning. Grose, in his Provincial Glos- 
sary, gives the meaning as a word and a blow, 
and the blow first;" it is a common proverb in 
Yorkshire. He gives the same account of its 
3rigm as does Ray, extracted from Fuller, and 
gives no notion that any other can be attached 
to Jt R. J. S. 

JAN. 12. 1850.] 




I should be very glad to have some distinct in- 
formation on the above subject, especially in ex- 
planation of any repositories of human bones in 
England? Was the ancient preservation of these 
skeleton remains always connected with embalming 
the body? or drying it, after the manner de- 
scribed by Captain Smythe, R.N., to be still prac- 
tised in Sicily? and, in cases in which dry bones 
only were preserved, by what process was the flesh 
removed from them ? for, as Addison says, in re- 
ference to the catacombs at Naples, " they must 
have been full of stench, if the dead bodies that 
lay in them were left to rot in open niches." The 
catacombs at Paris seem to have been furnished 
with bones from the emptyings of the metropolitan 
churchyards. In some soils, however, the bones 
rot almost as soon as the flesh decays from them. 

There are, possibly, many bone-houses in Eng- 
land. I have seen two of considerable extent, 
one at Ripon Minster, the other at Rothwell 
Church, in Northamptonshire ; and at both places 
skulls and thigh bones were piled up, in mural 
recesses, with as much regularity as bottles in the 
bins of a wine-cellar. At Rothwell there was 
(twenty years ago) a great number of these relics. 
The sexton spoke of there being 10,000 skulls, 
but this, no doubt, was an exaggeration ; and he 
gave, as the local tradition, that they had been 
gathered from the neighbouring field of Naseby. 
A similar story prevails at Ripon, viz. that the 
death-heads and cross-bones, which are arranged 
in the crypt under the Minster, are the grisly 
gleanings of some battle-field. 

Now, if these, and other like collections, were 
really made after battles which took place during 
any of the civil wars of England, some details 
would not be unworthy of the notice of the pic- 
turesque historian; e. g., was it the custom in 
those unhappy days to disinter, after a time, the 
slightly-buried corpses, and deposit the bones in 
the consecrated vault? or was this the acci- 
dental work of some antiquarian sexton of the 
"Old Mortality" species? or was the pious at- 
tention suggested by the ploughman's later dis- 

44 Agricola, incurvo terram molitus aratro," &c.? 
Any report from places where there happen to be 
bone-houses, together with the local tradition as- 
signing their origin, would, I think, throw light on 
an interesting and rather obscure subject. 

Ecclesfield, Dec. 31. 1849. ALFRED GATTT 


In answer to the question of "MELANION" (in 
No. 5. p. 73.), it maybe sufficient to refer him to the 
Spanish editions with notes, viz. that of Pellicer in 

800 ; the 4th edition of the Spanish Academy in 

819; and that of D. Diego Clemencin in 1833, 

where he will find the discrepancies he mentions 

jointed out. In the first edition of 1605 there was 

another instance in the same chapter, which Cer- 

antes corrected in the edition of 1608, but over- 

ooked the other two. It was one of those lapses, 

quas incur ia fudit, which great writers as well as 

mall are subject to. Clemencin laughs at De losRios 

'or thinking it a characteristic of great geniuses so 

,o mistake; and at the enthusiasm of some one else, 

who said that he preferred the Don Quixote with 

,he defects to the Don Quixote without them. 

Having answered one query, I presume I may 
)e permitted to propose one, in which I feel much 

Is the recently published BUSCAPIE the work of 
Cervantes ? We have now been favoured with 
two translations, one by Thomasina Ross, the other 
by a member of the University of Cambridge, 
under the title of The Squib, or Searchfoot; the 
latter I have read with some attention, but not 
having been able to procure the Spanish original, 
I should be glad to have the opinion of some com- 
petent Spanish scholar who has read it, as to its 
genuineness. My own impression is that it will 
prove an ingenious (perhaps innocent?) imposture. 
The story of its discovery in a collection of books 
sold by auction at Cadiz, and its publication there 
by Don Adolfo de Castro, in the first place, rather 
excites suspicion. My impression, however, is 
formed from the 'evident artificial structure of the 
whole. Still, not having seen the original, I con- 
fess myself an imperfect judge, and hope that this 
may meet the eye of one competent to decide. 



I have read the various notices in Nos. 3. 5, 
and 6. on the subject of these dishes. I have an 
electrotype copy from such a dish, the original 
of which is in Manchester. . The device is like 
No. 4. of those of CLERICUS (No. 3. p. 44.) ; 
but two circles of inscription extend round the 
central device (the Grapes of Eshcol), in cha- 
racters which are supposed to be Saracenic. The 
inner inscription is five times, the outer seven 
times, repeated in the round. I see, by the 
Archaeological Journal, .No. 23., for Sept. 1849 
(pp. 295-6.), that at the meeting of the Archaeo- 
logical Institute, on the 1st June last, Mr. Octavius 
Morgan, M.P., exhibited a collection of ancient 
salvers or chargers, supposed to be of latten; 
several ornamented with sacred devices and in- 
scriptions, including some remarkable examples 
of the curious florid letter, forming legends, which 
have so long perplexed antiquaries in all parts of 
Europe. Mr. 'Morgan arranged the devices in 
four classes, the first being chargers or large 



[No. 11. 

dishes, supposed by him to have been fabricated 
at Nuremberg. The northern antiquary, Sjoborg, 
who has written much on the subject, calls them 
baptismal or alms dishes. Their most common 
devices are, Adam and Eve (probably the No. 3. 
of CXERICUS), St. George, and the Grapes of 
Eshcol (No. 4. of CLERICUS). On one of those 
exhibited was the Annunciation (No. 2. of CLERI- 
cus). On these facts I wish to put the following 
queries : 

1. Are Sjb'borg's works known to any of your 
readers ? 

2. In what language does he suppose the cha- 
racters to be ? MELANDRA. 

[While we are very happy to promote the inquiries 
of our correspondent, we think it right to apprise him 
that the opinions of the Swedish antiquary whom he 
has named, are received with great caution by the ma- 
jority of his archaeological brethren.] 


Cupid Crying. I shall be obliged if you, or any 
of your correspondents, can tell me who was the 
author of the epigram, or inscription, of which I 
subjoin the English translation. I am sure I have 
seen the Latin, but I do not know whose it was 
or where to find it ; I think it belongs to one of 
the Italian writers of the fifteenth or sixteenth 
century : 

" Why is Cupid crying so? 

Because his jealous mother beat him. 
What for ? For giving up his bow 

To Ccelia, who contrived to cheat him. 
The child ! I could not have believed 

He'd give his weapons to another > 

He would not ; but he was deceived : 

She smiled ; he thought it was his mother." 


Was not Sir George Jackson " Junius f " 
Among the names which have been put forward 
as claimants to be " Junius," I beg to propose the 
name of SIR GEORGE JACKSON, who was, I believe, 
about that time Secretary to the Admiralty. I 
shall be glad to know what obstacles are opposed 
to this theory, as I think I have some presumptive 
evidence (I do not call it strong), which seems to 
show either that he was " Junius," or a party con- 
cerned, p^ 

[We insert this communication, knowing that our 
correspondent is likely to possess such evidence as he 
alludes to, and in the hope that he will be induced to 
bring it forward.] 

Ballad of Dick and the Devil. About the 
middle of the seventeenth century, occasionally 
resided, on the large island in Windermere, a 
member of the ancient but now extinct family of 

Philipson, of Crooke Hall. He was a dashing ca- 
valier, and, from his fearless exploits, had acquired 
among the Parliamentarians the significant, though 
not very respectable, cognomen of "Robin the 

On one of these characteristic adventures, he 
rode, heavily armed, into the large old church at 
Kendal, with the intention of there shooting an 
individual, from whom he had received a deeply 
resented injury. His object, however, was unac- 
complished, for his enemy was not present ; and 
in the confusion into which the congregation were 
thrown by such a warlike apparition, the dauntless 
intruder made his exit, though subjected to a 
struggle at the church door. His casque, which 
was captured in the skirmish that there took 
place, is yet to be seen in the church, and the 
fame of this redoubtable attempt, which was 
long held in remembrance through the country 
side, excited the poetic genius of a rhymer of the 
day to embody it in a ballad, entitled " Dick and 
the Devil," which is now rare and difficult to be 
met with. 

As my endeavours to light on a copy have been 
unavailing, and my opportunities for research are 
limited, perhaps some one of your numerous 
readers who may be versed in the ballad poetry of 
the age of my hero, will kindly take the trouble to 
inform me whether he has ever met with the ballad 
in question, or direst me to where it may most 
likely be found. 

I trust that from the obliging communications 
of some of your valuable literary correspondents, 
I may be so fortunate as to meet with the object 
of my query. H.J.M. 

Dec. 27. Ambleside. 

Erasmus 1 Paraphrase on the Gospels. I have in 
my charge the mutilated remains of an old black- 
letter copy of Erasmus 1 Paraphrase on the Gospels, 
not of any great value perhaps, but interesting to 
me from its having been chained from time imme- 
morial (so to speak) to one of the stalls in our 
parish church ; it is only perfect from Mark, fol. 
Ixiiii. to John fol. cxiii., but I should be glad to 
know the date, &c. of its publication. Presuming, 
therefore, that one of the objects of your interest- 
ing publication is to aid in solving the minor diffi- 
culties of ^ persons like myself, who have no means 
of consulting any large collection of books, I have 
the^ less^ scruple in forwarding the accompanying 
"Notes" from my copy, for the guidance of any 
one who will be at the trouble of comparing them 
with any copy to which he may have access. 

The spelling of the word " gospel " varies 
throughout ; thus, in Mark, fols. Ixiiii Ixxii., xci., 
xciv., xcv., xcvii., and xcviii. it is "ghospel;" 
on Ixxiii Ixxvi., Ixxviii., it is "gospell;" on the 
rest " gospel." So also throughout St. Luke, which 
occupies cc. foil., it varies in like manner, " ghos- 

JAN. 12. 1850.] 



pell" being there the more common form. The 
initial letter to St. Luke represents Jacob's dream ; 
on the first page of fol. vi. of St. Luke the trans- 
lator's preface ends, " Geven at London the last day 
of Septembre, in the yere of our Lorde M.D.XLV." 
On fol. xiii. of the same, Erasmus' own preface 
ends, " Geven at Basill the xxii. dai of August y e 
yere of our Lord, M.D." (the rest effaced). On the 
first page of fol. viii. of St. John's Gospel the pre- 
face ends, " Geven at Basile the yere of our Lord, 
M.D.X x in. the v daye of Januarye." If these notes 
are sufficient to identify my copy with any particular 
edition, it will afford a real pleasure to 


lland Chest. In some wills of Bristol mer- 
chants of the latter part of the 16th century, I 
have met with the bequest of a chattel called an 
" lland Chest:" thus, ex. g. "Item: to Edmond 
Poyley I give the Hand chest in the great chamber 
wherein his linen was.'* Mention is made of the 
like article in two or three other instances. An 
explanation of the word and an account of the 
kind of chest will much oblige. B. W. G. 

D' Israeli on the Court of Wards. D'Israeli, in 
his article upon "Usurers of the Seventeenth 
Century" (Curios, of Lit. iii. 89. old ed.), which is 
chiefly upon Hugh Audley, a master of the Court 
of Wards and Liveries, speaks of that court as " a 
remarkable institution, on which I purpose to 
make some researches." Can any of your readers 
inform me if D'Israeli acted upon this resolve, and, 
if so, where the results of his labours are to be 
found? J.B. 

Ancient Tiles. Two birds, back to back, with 
heads turned to each other, were common on an- 
cient tiles. What are they intended to represent 
or to embleinise ? B. 

Pilgrimage of Kings, frc. Blind Man's Buff 
Muffin Hundred Weight, Sfc. 1 . Can your 
readers oblige me with the name of the author 
and the date of a work entitled The Pilgrimage of 
Kings and Princes, of which I possess an imperfect 
copy a small quarto ? 

2. What is the etymology of the game Blind 
Man's Buff? I am led to doubt whether that was 
the old spelling of it, for in a catalogue now before 
me I find a auarto work by Martin Parker, enti- 
tled The Poet s Blind Mans Bough, or Have among 
you my Blind Harpers, 1641. 

.'J. What is the origin of the word muffin f It 
is not in Johnson's Dictionary. Perhaps this sort 
of tea-cake was not known in his day. 

4. By what logic do we call one hundred and 
twelve pounds merely a hundred weight ? 

5. I shall feel still more obliged if your readers 
can inform me of any works on natural history, 
particularly adapted for a literary man to refer to 

at times when poetical, mythological, scriptural, 
and historical associations connected with animals 
and plants are in question. I am constantly feel- 
ing the want of a work of the kind to comprehend 
zoological similes and allusions, and also notices of 
customs and superstitions connected with animals, 
when reading our old poets and chroniclers. Even 
the most celebrated zoological works are of no use 
to me in such inquiries. STEPHEN BEAUCHAMP. 

Anthony Bek, Bishop of Durham. Having em- 
ployed my leisure for many years in collecting 
materials for the biography of the famous Anthony 
Bek, Bishop of Durham, 1 am baffled by the con- 
flicting and contradictory accounts of, (1.) The 
title by which he became possessed of the Vesci 
estates ; (2). When and by what authority he took 
upon him the title of " King of the Isle of Man ;" 
and (3.) How he became dispossessed of that title, 
which it is well known that Edward II. bestowed 
upon Gaveston; and whether that circumstance 
did not induce him to take part with the con- 
federate barons who eventually destroyed that 

Other incongruities occur in my researches, but 
the above are the most difficult of solution. 
I am, dear Sir, 


Curious Welsh Custom. A custom prevails in 
Wales of carrying about at Christmas time a 
horse's skull dressed up with ribbons, and sup- 
ported on a pole by a man who is concealed under 
a large white cloth. There is a contrivance for 
opening and shutting the jaws, and the figure 
pursues and bites every body it can lay hold of, 
and does not release them except on payment of a 
fine. It is generally accompanied by some men 
dressed up in a grotesque manner, who, on reach- 
ing a house, sing some extempore verses requesting 
admittance, and are in turn answered by those 
within, until one party or the other is at a loss for 
a reply. The Welsh are undoubtedly a poetical 
people, and these verses often display a good deal 
of cleverness. This horse's head is culled Mari 
Lwyd, which I have heard translated " grey mare.** 
Llwyd certainly is grey, but Mari is not a mare, in 
Welsh. I think I have heard that there is some 
connection between it and the camel which often 
appears in old pictures of the Magi offering their 
gifts. Can any of your readers inform me of the 
real meaning of the name, and the origin of the 
custom, and also whether a similar custom does 
not prevail in some parts of Oxfordshire ? 


Fall of Rain in England. Can you give me 
any information respecting the fall of rain in 
England ? I mean the quantity of rain that has 
lull eu in various parts of the island, from month 



[No. 11 

to month, during the last ten, fifteen, or twent 
years. If any of your correspondents can do thai 
or can give me a list of works, periodical or other 
wise, in which such information is to be found 
they will greatly oblige me. 

Can any of your correspondents inform me wh 
is the author of the following lines ? 

" Though with forced mirth we oft may soothe a smart 
What seemeth well, is oft not well, I ween ; 
For many a burning breast and bleeding heart, 
Hid under guise of mirth is often seen." 


Rev. J. Edwards on Metal for Telescopes. ~ 
shall feel obliged if any of your correspondents 
can inform me where I can find a paper, called 
" Directions for making the best Composition for 
the Metals of reflecting Telescopes, and the Method 
of grinding, polishing, and giving the great Specu- 
lum the true parabolic figure," by the Rev. John 
Edwards, B.A. 

I saw it some years ago in an old journal or 
transactions, but Capt. Cuttle's maxim not having 
been then given to the world, and being now 
unable to make a search, I avail myself of your 
valuable publication. j^ j-| 

Colonel Blood 's House. The notorious Colonel 
Blood is said to have resided at a house in Peter 
Street, Westminster. Tradition points out the 
corner of Tufton Street. Can any of your readers 
give me information as to the correctness of this 
statement ? E. F. R. 

John Lucas's MS. Collection of English Songs. 
Ames, the author of the Typographical Anti- 
auities, is said to have had in his possession a folio 
MS. volume of English Songs or Ballads, com- 
posed or collected by one John Lucas, about the 
year 1450. If this MS. is in private hands, the 
possessor would confer an essential service on the 
antiquarian public by informing them of its con- 


Theophania. I send you a copy, verbatim et 
literatim, of the title-page of an old book in my 
possession, in the hope that some one of your 
correspondents may be able to furnish me with 
information respecting its author. I believe the 
work to be a very scarce one, having never seen 
or heard of any other copy than my own. 

" Theophania : or several! Modern Histories Repre- 
sented by way of Romance ; and Politickly Discours'd 
upon : by an English Person of Quality. 

" Stat. Theb. 

Nee divinam Sydneida tenta 
Sed longe sequere, & Vestigia semper adora. 

London, Printed by T. Newcomb, for Thomas 
Heath, and are to be sold at his Shop in Russel -street 
near the Piazza s of Covent Garden, 1655." 


Ancient MS. Account of Britain. I find the 
following note in Cooper's Thesaurus Linguce Ro- 
mance et Britannica, Impressum Londini, 1573, 
under the word Britannia : 

" About 30 yeares since it happened in Wilshire, at 
Juy church, about twoo miles from Salisbury, as men 
digged to make a foundation, they founde an hollowe 
stone covered with another stone, wherein they founde 
a booke, having in it little above xx leaves (as they 
sayde) of verye thicke velume, wherein was some thing 
written. But when it was shewed to priestes and 
chanons, which were there, they would not read it. 
Wherefore after they had tossed it from one to another 
(by the meanes whereof it was tome) they did neglect 
and cast it aside. Long after, a piece thereof happened 
to come to my handes ; which notwithstanding it was 
al to rent and defaced, I shewed to mayster Richarde 
Pace, then chiefe Secretarie to the kinges most Royall 
maiestie, whereof he exceedingly reioysed. But beea'use 
it was partly rent, partly defaced and bloured with 
weate which had fallen on it, he could not find any one 
sentence perfite. Notwithstanding after long beholding 
hee shewed mee, it seemed that the sayde booke con- 
tayned some auncient monument of this He, and that 
he perceyved this word Prytania, to bee put for JSry- 
tannia. But at that time he said no more to me." 

Cooper's conjecture founded on this is that 
Britain is derived from the Greek word Prytania, 
which, according to Suidas, " doth," with a circum- 
flexed aspiration, signifie metalles, fayres, and 
markets." " Calling the place by that which came 
out of it, as one would say, hee went to market, 
when he goeth to Antwarpe," &c. Has this been 
noticed elsewhere ? j Q 


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NOTKS : Page 

Passage in Hudibras, by E. F. Rimbault - - 177 

Field of th< Brothers' Footsteps - - - - 178 

Notes on Books and Authors, by Bolton Corney 

Receipt* ol the Beggar's Opera - - - - 17H 

Notes on Cunningham's London, by E. F. Ilimbault - ISO 

Sewerage in Etruria - - - - 1M) 

Andrew Frusius - - - - - - 180 

Opinions respecting Burnet - - - - 181 


St. Thomas of Lancaster, by R. Monckton Milnes . 181 
Shield of the Black Prince, &c., by J. R. Planche - 1<3 
Fraternitye of Vagabondes, &c. - - - - 183 
The name of Shvloek, by M. A. Lower - - - 18<t 
Transposition of Letters, by B. Williams - .184 
Pictures in Churches - - - - - 1H4 
Flaying in Puni.-him-nt of Sacrilege - - .185. 
Minor Queries : Pokership or Parkership Boduc or 
Boduoc Origin of Snob Mt-rtens the Printer 
Queen's Messengers Bishop of Ross' Epitaph. &c., 
Origin, of Cannibal-, Sir W. Rider Origin of word 
Poghele,&c. 185 

Darkness at the Crucifixion High Doctrine Wife of 
King Robert Bruce The Talisman of Charlemagne 
Shyers the Caricaturist May- Day Dr. Dee's PetU 
tion Line* quoted by Goethe Queen Mary's Ex- 
pectations Ken's Hymns Etymology of Daysman.&c. 186 


Notes on Books, Sales, Catalogues, &c. - 
Books and Odd Volumes wanted - 
Notices to Correspondents .... 
AdveitlsemenU ..... 

- 189 
. 190 

- 190 

- 191 


The often-quoted lines 

" For he that fights and runs away 

May live to fight another day," 

generally supposed to form a part of Hudibras, are 
to be found (as Mr. Cunningham points out, at 
p. 602. of his Handbook for London), in the Mu- 
sarum Dclicitr, 12mo. 1656; a clever collection of 
"witty trifles," by Sir John Memiis and Dr. James 

The passage, as it really stands in Hudibras 
(book iii. canto iii. verse 243.), is as follows: 
* For those that fly may fight aain, 

Which he can never do that's slain. 11 
But there is a much earlier authority for these 
lines than the Musarum Deliciee; a fact which I 
learn from a volume now open before me, the great 
rarity of which will excuse my transcribing the 
'-piiirr in full : 

Kynges, Capitaines, Philosophiers, and Oratours, as 
well Grekes as Romaines, hothe veraye pleusaunt and 
profitable to reade, partely for all maner of personts, 
and especially Gentlemen. First gathered and com- 
piled in Latine hy the right famous clerke, Maister 
Erasmus, of Roteradame. And now translated into 
Englyshe by Nicolas 'Udall. Excusam typls Ricardi 
Graf ton, 1542. 8vo." 

A second edition was printed by John King- 
ston, in 1564, with no other variation, I believe, 
than in the orthography. Haslewood, in a note 
on the fly-leaf of my copy, says : 

" Notwithstanding the fame of Erasmus, and the 
reputation of his translator, this volume has not ob- 
tained that notice which, either from its date or value, 
might be justly expected. Were its claim only founded 
on the colloquial notes of Udall, it is entitled to con- 
sideration, as therein may be traced several of the fa- 
miliar phrases and common-place idioms, which have 
occasioned many conjectural speculations among the 
annotators upon our early drama." 

The work consists of only two books of the 
original, comprising the apophthegms of Socrates, 
Aristippus, Diogenes, Philippu?, Alexander, An- 
tigonus, Augustus Caesar, Julius Caesar, Pompey, 
Phocian, Cicero, and Demosthenes. 

On folio 239. occurs the following apophthegm, 
which is the one relating to. the subject before 
us : 

" That same man, that renneth awaie, 
Maie again fight, an other daie. 

" ^ Judgeyng that it is more for the bt-nefite of 
one's countree to mine awaie in battaile, then to leso 
his life. For a ded man can fight no more ; but who 
hath saved hymself alive, by rennyng awaie, may, in 
many battailles mo, doe good service to his countree. 

" At lest wise, if it be a poinct of good service, to 
remit- awaie at all times, when the countree hath most 
Hi-fill- of his tu-lpe to sticke to it." 

Thus we are enabled to throw back more than 
a century these famous Hudibrastic lines, which 
have occasioned so many inquiries for their origin. 

I take this opportunity of noticing a mistake 
which has frequently been made concerning the 
French translation of Butler's Hudibras. Tytlcr, 
in his Essay on Translation ; Nichols, in his Bio- 
graphical Anecdotes of Hogarth ; and Ray, in his 



[No. 12 

History of the Rebellion, attribute it to Colone 
Francis Towneley; whereas it was the work o 
John Towneley, uncle to the celebrated Charles 
Towneley, the collector of the Marbles. 



I do not think that Mr. Cunningham, in his 
valuable work, has given any account of a piece 
of ground of which a strange story is recorded by 
Southey, in his Common-Place Book (Second Se- 
ries, p. 21.). After quoting a letter received from 
a friend, recommending him to " take a view of 
those wonderful marks of the Lord's hatred to 
duelling, called The Brothers' Steps," and giving 
him the description of the locality, Mr. Southey 
gives an account of his own visit to the spot (a 
field supposed to bear ineffaceable marks of the 
footsteps of two brothers, who fought a fatal duel 
about a love affair) in these words : " We sought 
for near half an hour in vain. We could nndno 
steps at all, within a quarter of a mile, no nor half 
a mile, of Montague House. We were almost out 
of hope, when an honest man who was at work 
directed us to the next ground adjoining to a 
pond. There we found what we sought, about 
three quarters of a mile north of Montague House, 
and about 500 yards east of Tottenham Court 
Road. The steps answer Mr. Walsh's description. 
They are of the size of a large human foot, about 
three inches deep, and lie nearly from north-east 
to south-west. We counted only seventy-six, but 
we were not exact in counting. The place where 
one or both the brothers are supposed to have 
fallen, is still bare of grass. The labourer also 
showed us the bank where (the tradition is) the 
wretched woman sat to see the combat." 

Mr. Southey then goes on to speak of his full 
confidence in the tradition of their indestructibility, 
even after ploughing up, and of the conclusions to 
be drawn from the circumstance. 

To this long note, I beg to append a query, as 
to the latest account of these footsteps, previous 
to the ground being built over, as it evidently 
now must be. Q. jj g 


Verse may picture the feelings of the author 
or it may only picture his fancy. To assume the 
former position, is not always safe; and in two 
memorable instances a series of sonnets has been 
used to construct a baseless fabric of biography. 

In the accompanying sonnet, there is no such 
uncertainty. It was communicated to me by 
John Adamson, Eso^., M.R.S.L., &c., honourably 
known by a translation of the tragedy of Dona 
Ignez de Castro, from the Portuguese of Nicola 
Luiz, and by a Memoir of the life and writings 

ofCamoens, &c. It was not intended for publica- 
tion, but now appears, at my request. 

Mr. Adamson, it should be stated, is a corre- 
sponding member of the Royal Academy 
Sciences of Lisbon, and has received diplomas o] 
the orders of Christ and the Tower-and-sword. 
The coming storm alludes to the menace of in- 
vasion by France. 


" O Portugal ! whene'er I see thy name 

What proud emotions rise within my breast ! 
To thee 1 owe from thee derive that fame 

Which here may linger when 1 lie at rest. 
When as a youth I landed on thy shore, 
How little did I think I e'er could be 
Worthy the honours thou hast giv'n to me; 
And when the coming storm I did deplore, 
Drove me far from thee by its hostile threat 
With fe.elings which can never be effaced, 
I learn'd to commune with those writers old 
Who had the deeds of thy great chieftains told ; 
Departed bards in converse sweet I met, 
I'.d seen where they had liv'd - the land Cainoens 

I venture to add the titles of two interesting 
volumes which have been printed subsequently to 
;he publications of Lowndes and Martin. It may 
be a useful hint to students and collectors : 

" BIBLIOTHECA LUSITANA, or catalogue of books and 
racts, relating to the history, literature, and poetry, of 
Portugal : forming part of the library of John Adam- 
on, M. R.-S. L. etc. Newcastle on Tyne, 1836. 8vo. 

LUSITANIA ILLUSTRATA ; notices on the history, 
antiquities, literature, etc. of Portugal Literary de- 
partment. Part I. Selection of sonnets, with biogra- 
phical Sketches of the authors, by John Adamson, 
Newcastle upon Tyne, 1842. 8vo." 


M. R. S. L. etc. 



Every body is aware of the prodigious and un- 
expected success of Gay's Beggar's Opera on its 
first production ; it was offered to Colley Gibber 
at Drury Lane, and refused, and the author took 
it to Kich, at the Lincoln's-Inn-Fields theatre, 
by whom it was accepted, but not without he- 
sitation It ran for 62 nights (not 63 nights, 
> has been stated in some authorities) in the 
season of ^1 727-1728 : of these, 32 nights were 
m succession; and, from the original Account- 
book of the manager, C. M. Rich; I am enabled 
to give an exact statement of the money taken at 
the oors on each night, distinguishing such per- 
^ormances as were for the benefit of the author, 

I^ctlv^Q-; 6 ^' 9 > - and 15th ni S hts > w hich put 
exactly 69^ 13*. 6d. into Gay's pocket. This is 

new circumstance in the biography of one of our 
Engli f h writer ^ Aether in prose 
records that the king, queen and 

JAN. 19. 1850.] 



princesses were present on the 21st repetition, but 
that was by no means one of the fullest hpuses. 
The very bill sold at the doors on the occasion 
has been preserved, and hereafter may be fur- 
nished for the amusement of your readers. It 
appears, that when the run of the Beggar's 
Opera was somewhat abruptly terminated by 
the advance of the season and the- benefits of the 
actors, the "' takings," as they were and still are 
called, were larger than ever. The performances 
commenced on 29th January, 1728, and thap 
some striking novelty was required at the Lin- 
coln'p-Inn-Fields theatre, to improve the prospects 
of the manager, may be judged from the fact that 
the new tragedy of Sesostris, brought out on the 
J7th January, was played for the benefit of its. 
author (John Sturmy) on its 6th night to only 
58/. 19*., while the house was capable of holding 
at least 200/. 

In the following statement of the receipts to 
the Beggars Opera, I haye riof thought it neces- 
sary to insert the days of the months : 


Night 1 

(Author) 3 

(Author) 9 

(Author) 15 

s. d. 

169 12 O 

160 14 

162 12 6 

163 5 6 
175 19 6 
189 11 O 

161 19 

157 19 6 
165 12 
1.56 O 
171 10 

170 5 6 

164 8 

171 5 O 
175 18 

160 11 O 
171 8 6 
163 16 6 

158 19 
170 9 6 
163 14 6 
163 17 6 
179 8 6 

161 7 
169 3 6 
163 18 6 
1 68 4 6 
153 3 6 

165 2 6 
152 8 6 
183 4 
185 8 6 

Therefore, when the run was interrupted, the 
attraction of the opera was greater than it 
Md been on any previous night, excepting the 
<ith, which was one of those set apart for the 
remuneration of the author, when the receipt 
was 189/. 11*. The total sum realised by the 

32 successive performances was 53511. 15*., of 
whichj as we have already shown, Gay obtained 
693/. 13*. 6d. To him it was all clear profit ; but 
from the sum obtained by Rich are, of course, to 
be deducted the expenses of the conipany, lights, 
house-rent, &c. 

The successful career of the piece was checked, 
as I have said, by the intervention of benefits, 
and the manager would not allow it to be repeated 
even for Walker's and Miss Fenton's nights, the 
Macheath and Polly of the opera ; but, in order to 
connect the latter with it, when Miss Fenton 
issued her bill for The Beaut's Stratagem, oh 
29th April, it was headed that it was ' v for the 
benefit of Polly." An exception was, however, 
made in favour of John Rich, the brother of the 
manager, for whose benefit the Beggar's Opera 
was played on 26th February, when the receipt 
was 184/. 15*. Miss Fenton was allowed a second 
benefit, on 4th May, in consequence, we may 
suppose, of her great claims in connection with 
the Beggar's Opera, and then it was performed to 
a house containing 155/. 4*. The greatest recorded 
receipt, in its first season, was on 13th April, 
when, for some unexplained cause, the audience 
was so numerous that 1981. 17s. were taken at 
the doors. 

After this date there appears to have been con- 
siderable fluctuation in the profits derived from 
repetitions of the Beggars Opera* On the 5th 
May, the day after Polly Fenton's (her real name 
was Lavinia) second benefit, the proceeds fell to 
78/. 14*., the 50th night produced 69/. 12*., and 
the 51st only 26/. 1*. Qd. The next night the 
receipt suddenly rose again to 134/. 13*. Qd., and 
it continued to range between 53/. and 105/. 
until the 62nd and last night (19th June), when 
the sum taken was 98/. 17*. 6d. 

Miss Fenton left the stage at the end of the 
season, to be made Duchess of Bolton, and in the 
next season her place, as regards the Beggars 
Opera, was taken by Miss Warren, and on 20th 
September it attracted 75L 7*. ; at the end of 
November it drew only 23/., yet, on the llth 
December, for some reason not stated by the 
manager, the takings amounted to 112/. 9*. 6d. 
On January 1st a new experiment was tried with 
the opera, for it was represented by children, and 
the Prince of Wales commanded it on one or more 
of the eight successive performances it thus under- 
went. On 5th May we find Miss Cantrell taking 
Miss Warren's character, and, in the whole, the 
Beggars Opera was acted more than forty times 
in its second year, 1728-9, including the perform- 
ances by " Lilliputians " as well as comedians. 
This is, perhaps, as much of its early history as 
your readers will care about. 




[No. 12. 



Lady Dacre's Aims-Houses, or Emanuel Hospital 
" Jan. 8. 1772, died, in Emanuel Hospital 
Mrs. Wyndymore, cousin of. Mary, queen of Wil- 
liam III., as well as of Queen Anne. Strange 
revolution of fortune, that the cousin of two 
queens should, for fifty years, be supported by 
charity." MS. Diary, quoted in Collet's Relics 
of Literature, p. 310. 

Essex Buildings. " On Thursday next, the 
22nd of this instant, November, at the Mmick- 
school in Essex Buildings, over against St. Cle- 
ment's Church, in the Strand, will be continued a 
concert of vocal and instrumental musick, begin- 
ning at five of the clock, every evening. Com- 
posed by Mr. Banister." Zone?. Gazette, Nov. 18. 
1678. "This famous ' musick- room' was after- 
wards Patersou's auction-room." Pennant's Com- 
mon-place Book. 

St. Antholins.^In Thorpe's Catalogue of MSS. 
for 1836 appears for sale, Art. 792., " The Church- 
wardens' Accounts, from 1615 to 1752, of the 
Parish of St. Antholins, London." Again, in the 
same Catalogue, Art. 793., " The Churchwardens 
and Overseers of the Parish of St. Antholiris, in 
London, Accounts from 1638 to 1700 inclusive." 
Verily these books have been in the hands of 
"unjust stewards!" 

Clerkenwell. Names of eminent persons re- 
siding in this parish in 1666: Earl of Carlisle, 
Earl of Essex, Earl of Aylesbury, Lord Barkely, 
Lord Townsend, Lord Dellawar, Lady Crofts, 
Lady Wordham, Sir John Keeling, Sir John Crop- 
ley, Sir Edward Bannister, Sir Nicholas Stroude, 
Sir Gower Barrington, Dr. King, Dr. Sloane. In 
1667-8: Duke of Newcastle, Lord Baltimore, 
Lady Wright, Lady Mary Dormer, Lady Wynd- 
ham, Sir Erasmus Smith, Sir Richard Cliverton, 
Sir John Burdish, Sir Goddard Nelthorpe, Sir 
John King, Sir William Bowles, Sir William 
Boulton. Extracted from a MS. in the late Mr 
Upcotfs Collection. 

Tyburn Gallows. No. 49. Connaught Square, 
is built on the spot where this celebrated gallows 
stood : and, in the lease granted by the Bishop of 
London, this is particularly mentioned. 



I have been particularly struck, in reading The 
Cities and Cemeteries of Elruria, of'George Dennis, 
by the great disparity there appears between 
the ancient population of the country and the 

The ancient population appears, moreover, to 
have been located in circumstances not by any 
means favourable to the health of the people 
Those cities surrounded by high walls, and en- 

tered by singularly small gateways, must have 
been very badly ventilated, and very unfavourable 
to health ; and yet it is not reasonable to suppose 
they could have been so unhealthy then as the 
author describes the country at present to be. 
It is hardly possible to imagine so great a people 
as the Etruscans, the wretched fever-stricken 
objects the present inhabitants of the Maremma 
are described to be. 

To what, then, can this great difference be 
ascribed ? The Etruscans appear to have taken 
very great pains with the drainage of their cities ; 
on many sites the cloaca are the only remains of 
their former industry and greatness which remain. 
They were also careful to bury their dead outside 
their city walls ; and it is, no doubt, to these two 
circumstances, principally, that their increase and 
greatness, as a people, are to be ascribed. But 
why do not the present inhabitants avail them- 
selves of the same means of health ? Is it that 
they are too idle, or are they too broken-spirited 
and poverty-stricken to unite in any public work ? 
Or has the climate changed ? 

Perhaps it was owing to some defect in their 
civil polity that the ancients were comparatively 
so easily put down by the Roman power, which 
might have been the superior civilisation. Pos- 
sibly the groat majority of the people may have 
been dissatisfied with their rulers, and gladly 
removed to another place and another form of 
government. It is even possible, and indeed 
likely, that these great public works may have 
been carried on by the forced labour of the 
poorest and, consequently, the most numerous 
class of the population, and that, consequently, 
"hey had no particular tie to their native city, as 
:>eing only a hardship to them; and they may 
even have had a dislike to sewers in themselves, 
is reminding them of their bondage, and which 
lishke their descendants have inherited, and for 
which they are now suffering. At any rate, it is 
in instructive example to our present citizens of 
the value of drainage and sanitary arrangements, 
ind shows that the importance of these things was 
^ecognised and appreciated in the earliest times. 

C. P. F. 


Many of your readers,' as well as "ROTERO- 
DAMUS," will be ready to acknowledge their obliga- 
ion to Mr. Bruce for his prompt identification o 
he author of the^ epigram against Erasmus (pp. 
27, 28.). I have just referred to the catalogue of 
he library of this university, and I regret to say 
hat we have no copy of any of the works of 
JTUSiua. Mr. Bruce says he knows nothing of 
*rusius as an author. I believe there is no men- 
ion of him in any English bibliographical or 
lographical work. There is, however, a notice 

JAN. 19. 1850.] 



of him in the Biographic Universette, vol. xvi. 
(Paris), and in the Biugrafoi Universal*, vol. xxi. 
(Venezia). As these works have, perhaps, found 
their way into very few private English libraries, 
I send you the following sketch, which will pro- 
bably be acceptable to your readers. It is much 
to be lamented that sufficient encouragement 
cannot be given in this country for the production 
of a Universal Biography, llose's work, which 
promised to be a giant, dwindled down to a 
miserable pigmy ; and that under " The Socit ty 
for the Diffusion of Useful Knowledge " was 
strangled in its birth. 

Andre des Freux, better known by his Latin 
name, Frusius, was born at Chartres, in the be- 
ginning of the sixteenth century. He embraced 
the life of an ecclesiastic, and obtained the cure 
of Thiverval, which he held many years with 
great credit to himself. The high reputation of 
Ignatius Loyola, who was then at Rome, with 
authority from the Holy See to found the Society 
of the Jesuits, led Frusius to that city, where he 
was admitted a member of the new order in 1541, 
and shortly after became secretary to Loyola. 
He contributed to the establishment of the Society 
at Parma, Venice^ and many towns of Italy and 
Sicily. He was the first Jesuit who taught the 
Greek language at Messina ; he also gave public 
lectures on the Holy Scriptures in Koine. He 
was appointed Rector of the German College at 
Rome, shortly before his death, which occurred 
on the 25th of October, 1556, three months and 
six days after the death of Loyola. Frusius had 
studied, with equal success, theology, medicine, 
and law : he was a good mathematician, an ex- 
cellent musician, and made Latin verses with such 
f.icility, that he composed them, on the instant, on 
all sorts of subjects. But these verses were neither 
so elegant nor so harmonious, as Alegambe asserts*, 
since he adds, that it requires close attention to 
distinguish them from prose. Frusius translated, 
from Spanish into Latin, the Spiritual Exercises 
of Loyola. He was the author of the following 
works : Two small pieces, in verse, De Verborum 
e.t Rerum Copia, and Sumina Latince Syntaxeos : 
these were published in several different places ; 
Theses Collector ex Interpretatione Geneseos ; As- 
sertiones Theological, Rome, 1554; Poemata, Co- 
logne, 1558 this collection, often reprinted at 
Antwerp, and Tournon, contains 255 f 

epigrams n^i'inst the heretics, amongst whom he 

El ares Erasmus; a poem, De Agno Dei; and, 
i^ilv, another poem, entitled Echo de Present* 
( 'JinstiniKB Religionis Calamitute, which has been 
sometimes cited as an example of a great difficulte 
vaincue. The edition of Tournon contains also a 

* I presume in his Bibliotheca Scriptorum Societatis 

j- Duthillocul, according to Mr. Bruce, says 251. 

poem, De SimpUcitate, of which Alegambe speaks 
with praise. To Frusius was also owing an edition 
of Martial's Epigrams, divested of their obscen- 
ities. EDW. VENTRIS. 
Cambridge, Jan. 1 0. 1 85O. 

[Our valued correspondent, MR. MACCABE, has 
also informed us that the " Epigrams of Frusius wvre 
published at Antwerp, 1582, in 8vo., and at Cologne, 
1641, in 12mo. See Feller's Biographic"] 


A small catena patrum has been given respecting 
Burnet, as a historian, in No. 3. pp. 40, 41., to 
which two more scriptorum judicia have been ap- 
pended, in No. 8. p. 120., by "I. H. M." As a 
sadly disparaging opinion had been quoted, at 
p. 40., from Lord Dartmouth, I hope you will 
allow the following remarks on the testimony of 
that nobleman to appear in your columns : 

' No person has contradicted Burnet more fre- 
quently, or with more asperity, than Dartmouth. Yet 
Dartmouth wrote, ' I do not think he designedly pub- 
lished anything he believed to be false.' At a later 
period, Dartmouth, provoked by some remarks on 
himself in the second volume of the Bishop's history, 
retracted this praise ; but to such a retraction little 
importance can be attached. Even Swift has the jus- 
tice to say, ' After all he was a man of generosity and 
good nature."' Short Remarks on Bishop Burnet't 

" It is usual to censure Burnet as a singularly in- 
accurate historian ; but I believe the charge to be 
altogether unjust. He appears to be singularly inac- 
curate only because his narrative has been subjected to 
a scrutiny singularly severe and unfriendly. If any 
Whig thought it worth while to subject Reresby's 
Memoirs, North's Exnmen, Mulgrave's Account of the 
devolution, or the Life ofjame* the Second, edited by 
Clarke, to a similar scrutiny, it would soon appear that 
Burnet was far indeed from being the most inexact 
writer of his time." Macaulay, Hist. England, vol. ii. 
p. 177, 3rd Ed. T. 



Sir, I am desirous of information respecting \ 
the religious veneration paid to the memory of 
Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, eousin-german to King 
Edward the Second. He was tiiken, in open re ' 
bellion against the King, on the 16th of March, 
1322, condemned by a court-martial, and exe- 
cuted, with circumstances of great indignitv, on 
the rising ground above the castle of Pomfret, 
which at that time was in his possession. His 
body was probably given to the monks of the ad- 
jacent priory ; and soon after his death miracles 
were said to be performed at his tomb, and at the 




place of execution ; a curious record of which is 
preserved in the library of Corpus Christi College, 
at Cambridge, and introduced by Brady into his 
history of the period. About the same time, a 
picture or image of him seems to have been ex- 
hibited in St. Paul's Church, in London, and to 
have been the object of many offerings. ^ A spe- 
cial proclamation was issued, denouncing this 
veneration of the memory of a traitor, and threaten- 
ing punishment on those who encouraged^ it ; and 
a statement is given by Brady of the opinions of 
an ecclesiastic, who thought it very doubtful how- 
far this devotion should be .encouraged by the 
Church, the Earl of Lancaster, besides his poli- 
tical offences, having been a notorious evil-liver. 

As soon, however, as the Ring's party was sub- 
dued, and the unhappy sovereign, whose acts and 
habits had excited so much animosity, cruelly put 
to death, we find not only the political character 
of the Earl of Lancaster vindicated, his attainder 
reversed, his estates restored to his family, and his 
adherents re-established in all their rights and 
liberties, but within five weeks of the accession of 
Edward the Third, a special mission was sent to 
the Pope from the King, imploring the appoint- 
ment of a commission to institute the proper 
canonical investigation for his admission into the 
family of saints.. His character and his cause are 
described, in florid language, as having been those 
of a Christian hero ; and the numberless miracles 
wrought in his name, and the confluence of pil- 
grims to his tomb, are presumed to justify his 

In June of the same year (1327), a "king's 
letter " is given to Robert de Weryngton, autho- 
rising him and his agents to collect, alms through- 
out the kingdom for the purpose of building a 
chapel on the hill where the Earl was beheaded, 
and praying all prelates and authorities to give 
him aid and heed. This sanction gave rise to 
imposture ; and in December a proclamation ap- 
peared, ordering the arrest and punishment of 
unauthorised persons collecting money under this 
pretence, and taking it for their own use. 

In 1330, the same clerical personages were sent 
again to the Pope, to advance the affair of the 
canonization of the Earl, and were bearers of 
letters on the same subject from the King to five 
of the cardinals, all urging the attention of the 
Papal court to a subject that so much interested 
the Church and people of England. 

It would seem, however, that some powerful 
opposition to this request was at work at the 
Roman see. For in the April of the following 
year another commission, composed of a professor 
of theology, a military personage, and a magistrate 
of the name of John de Newton, was sent with 
letters to the Pope, to nine cardinals, to the 
refendary of the Papal court, and to three ne- 
phews of his Holiness, entreating them not to give 

ear to the invectives of malignant men ("com- 
nienta fictitia maliloquorum "), who here asserted 
that the Earl of Lancaster consented to, or con- 
nived at, some injury or insult offered to certain 
cardinals at Durham in the late king's reign. So 
far from this being true, the letters assert that 
the Eari defended these prelates to the utmost of 
Jiis power, protected them from enemies who had 
designs on their lives, and placed them in security 
at his own great periL The main point of the 
canonization is again urged, arid allusion made to 
former repeated supplications, and the sacred 
promise, " Knock, and it shall be opened unto 
you," appealed ^ to. The vindication of the Earl 
from the Malicious charge against hihi is omitted; 
in the letter^ to two of the cardinals ahd the lay 
personages. Were these the two cardinals who 
fancied themselves injured ? 

This, then, is all 1 can discover in the ordinary 
historical channels respecting this object of an- 
cient public reverence in England. The chapel 
was constructed and officiated in till the dissolu- 
tion of the monasteries ; the image in St. Paul's 
was always regarded with especial affection ; and 
the cognomen of Saint Thomas of Lancaster was 
generally accepted and understood. 

Five hundred years after the execution of the 
Earl of Lancaster, a large stone coffin, massive 
and roughly hewn, was found in a field % that be- 
longed of old to the Priory of Pomfret, but at 
least a quarter 6f a mile distant from tile hill 
where the chapel stood. Within was the skeleton 
of a full-grown man, partially preserved ; the skull 
lay between the thighs. There is no record of 
the decapitation of any person at Pomfret of 
sufficient dignity to have been interred in a man- 
ner showing so much care for the preservation of 
the body, except the Earl of Lancaster. The 
coffin may have been removed here at the time the 
opposite party forbade its veneration, from motives 
of precaution for its safety. 

Now, I shall be much obliged for information 
on the following points : 

Is any thing known, beyond what I have stated, 
as to the Communications with Rome on the sub- 
ject of his canonization, or as to the means by 
which he was permitted by the English Church to 
become a fit object for invocation and venera- 
tion ? 

What are the chief historical grounds that en- 
deared his memory to the Church or the people ? 
The compassion for his signal fall can hardly 
account for this, although a similar motive was 
sufficient to bring to the tomb of Edward II., in 
Gloucester Cathedral, an amount of offerings that 
added considerably to the splendour of the 

Are any anecdotes or circumstances recorded, 
respecting the worship of this saint in later times, 
than I have referred to ? 

JAN. 19. 1850.] 



What is the historic probability that the stone 
coffin, discovered in 1 822, contained the remains of 
this remarkable man ? 

I have no doubt that much curious and valuable 
matter might be discovered, by pursuing into the 
remote receptacles of historical knowledge the 
lives and characters of persons who have become, 
in Catholic times, the unauthorised objects of 
popular religious reverence after death. 


26. Pall Mall, Jan. 12th. 

[To this interesting communication we may add that 
" The Office of St. Thomas of Lancaster" which begins, 

" Gaude Thoma, ducum decus, lucerna Lancastrian," 

is printed in the volume of" Political Songs' edited by 
Mr. Wright for the Camden Society, from a Royal MS. 
in tlie British Museum MS. Ueg. 12.} 


In Bol ton's Elements of Armories, 1610, p. 67., 
is an engraving of a very interesting shield, of the 
kind called " Pavoise," which at that period hung 
over the tomb of Edward the Black Prince, at 
Canterbury, in addition to the shield still remain- 
ing there. Bolton pays, "The sayd victorious 
Princes tombe is in the goodly Cathedral Church 
erected to the honor of Christ, in Canterburie ; 
there (beside his quilted coat-armour, with half- 
sleeves, Taberd fashion, and his triangular shield, 
both of them painted with the royall armories of 
our kings, and differenced with silver labels) 
hangs this kind of Pavis or Target, curiously (for 
those times) embost and painted, and the Scutcheon 
in the bosse being worne out, and the Armes 
(which, it seemes, were the same with his coate 
armour, and not any peculiar devise") defaced, and 
is altogether of the same kinde with that upon 
which (Froissard reports) the dead body of the 
Lord Robert of Dvras, and nephew to the Car- 
dinal! of Pierregoort, was laid, and sent unto that 
Cardinale, from the Battell of Poictiers, where the 
Blacke Prince obtained a Victorie, the renowne 
whereof is imtaortale." 

Can any of your correspondents inform me 
when this most interesting relic disappeared ? 
Sandford, whose Genealogical History was pub- 
lished some sixty or seventy years later, says, " On 
an iron barr over the Tombe are placed the 
II. -aline and crest, Coat of Maile, and (lantlets, 
and, on a pillar near thereunto, his shield of 
Armes, richly diapred with gold, all which he is 
said to have used in Battel;" but he neither 
mentions the missing " Pavoise," engraved in Bol- 
ton, or the scabbard of the sword which yet re- 
mains, ^the sword itself having been taken away, 
according to report, by Oliver Cromwell. Did 
that unscrupulous Protector (?) take away the 

" Pavoise " at the same time, or order his Iron- 
sides to "remove that bauble?" and how came 
he to spare the helmet, jupon, gauntlets, shield, 
and scabbard f I have strong doubts of his being 
the purloiner of the sword. The late Mr. Slot- 
hard, who mentions the report, does not quote 
his authority. I will add another query, on a 
similar subject : When did the real sword of 
Charles the First's time, which, but a few years 
back, hung at the side of that monarch's eques- 
trian figure at Charing Cross, disappear ? and 
what has become of it? The question was put, 
at my suggestion, to the official authorities, by the 
secretary of the British Archaeological Association; 
but no information could be obtained on the sub- 
ject. That the sword was a real one of that 
period, I state upon the authority of my lamented 
friend, the late Sir Samuel Meyrick, who had 
ascertained the fact, and pointed out to me its 
loss. J. R. PLANCHE. 


[We have for some time past been obliged, by want 
of space, to omit all the kind expressions towards our- 
selves, in which friendly correspondents are apt to in- 
dulge; but there is something so unusual in the way 
in which the following letter begins, that we have done 
violence to our modesty, in order to admit the com- 
ments of our kind hearted correspondent. We have 
no doubt that all his questions will be answered in due 

Never, during my life (more than half a cen- 
tury), do I remember hailing the appearance of 
any new publication with such unfeigned delight. 
I had hugged myself on having the friendship of 
a certain "BOOKWORM," possessing a curious li- 
brary, of some three or four thousand volumes ; 
how much must I have rejoiced, therefore, at 
finding that, through the medium of your invalu- 
able journal, my literary friends were likely to 
be increased one hundred-fold ; and that, for the 
small sum of three pence weekly, I could command 
the cordial co-operation, when at a loss, of all the 
first scholars, antiquaries, tfnd literary men of the 
country ; that, without the trouble of attending 
meetings, &c., I could freely become a member of 
the "Society of Societies;'" that the four thou- 
sand volumes, to which I had, previously, access, 
were increased more than ten thousand-fold. It 
is one of the peculiar advantages of literary accu- 
mulation, that it is only by diffusing the knowledge 
of the materials amassed, and the information 
gained, that their value is felt. Unlike the miser, 
the scholar and antiquary, by expending, add to 
the value of their riches. 

Permit me to avail myself of the "good the 
bounteous gods have sent me," and make one or 
two inquiries through the medium of your columns. 



[No. 12. 

In the first place, can any of your readers inform 
me by whom a pamphlet, of the Elizabethan period, 
noticed in the Censura Literaria, and entitled 
The Fraternitye of Vagabondes, was reprinted, 
some years since ? Was it by Machelle Staee, of 
Scotland Yard, who died a brother of tJie Charter- 
House ? 

In the second place, can any of your clerical 
readers tell me where I can find any account of 
the late Rev. Mr. Genesse, of Bath, author of a 
History oj the Stage, in ten volumes, one of the 
most elaborate and entertaining works ever pub- 
lished, which must have been a labour of love, and 
the labour of a life ? 

And, in the third and last place, I find, in the 
Bristol Gazette of the early part of last month, the 
following paragraph: "THE RED MAIDS, 120 
in number, enjoyed their annual dinner in honour 
of the birthday of their great benefactor, Alder- 
man Whitson. The dinner consisted of joints of 
veal (which they only have on this occasion), and 
some dozens of plum puddings. The Mayor and 
Mayoress attended, and were much pleased to 
witness the happy faces of the girls, to whom the 
Mayoress distributed one shilling each." 

Can any of your curious contributors give me 
any account of these Red Maids ? why they 
are so called, &c. &c. ? and, in fact, of the cha- 
rity in general .? 

It will not foe one of the least of the many bene- 
fits of your publication, that, in noticing from 
time to time the real intention of many ancient 
charitable bequests, the purposes of the original 
benevolent founder may be restored to their in- 
tegrity, and the charity devoted to the use of 
those for whom it was intended, and who will 
receive it as a charity, and not, as is too often the 
case, be swallowed up as a mere place, or worse, 


Dr. Farmer has stated that Shakspere took the 
name which he has given to one of the leadino- 
.characters in the Merchant of Venice from a pam" 
phlet entitled Caleb SJdloche, or the Jew's Predic- 
tion. The date of the pamphlet, however, beino- 
some years posterior to that of the play, renders 
this origin impossible. Mr. C. Knight, who points 
out this error, adds " Scialac was the name of 
.a Marionite of Mount Libanus." 

But "query," Was not Shylock a proper name 
among the Jews, derived from the designation 
employed by the patriarch Jacob in predicting 
the advent of the Messiah until Shiloh come"? 
(Gen. xlix. 10.) The objection, which might be 
urged, that so sacred a name would not have been 
applied by an ancient Jew to his child, has not 
much weight, when we recollect that some Chris- 
tians have not shrunk from the blasphemous impo- 

sition of the name Emanuel (" God with us ") 
upon their offspring. St. Jerome manifestly reads 
SHILOACH, for he translates it by Qui mittendus 
est. (Loud. Encyc. in voc. "Shiloh.") Now the 
difference between Shiloach and Shylock is very 
trivial indeed. I shall be very glad to have the 
opinion of some of your numerous and able con- 
tributors oil this point. 

But, after all, Shylock may have been a, family 
name familiar to the great dramatist. In all my 
researches on the subject of English surnames, 
however, I have but once met with it as a generic 
distinction. In the Battel Abbey Deeds (penes 
Sir T. Phillipps, Bart.) occurs a power of at- 
torney from John Pesemershe, Esq., to Richard 
Shyloh, of Hoo, co. Sussex, and others, to deliver 
seizin of all his lands in Sussex to certain persons 
therein named. The date of this document is 
July 4. 1435. MARK ANTONY LOWER. 


I should be obliged af any of your readers would 
give me the reason for the transposition of certain 
letters, chiefly, but not exclusively, in proper 
names, which has been effected in the course of 

The name of our Queen Bertha was, in the 
seventh century, written Beorhte. 

The Duke Brythnotirs name was frequently 
written Byrthnoth, in the tenth century. 

In Eadweard, we have dropped the a; in Eal- 
dredesgate, the e. In Aedwini, we have dropped 
the first letter (or have sometimes transposed it), 
although, I think, we are wrong; for the given 
name Ad win has existed in my own family for 
several centuries. 

John was always written Jhon till about the 
end of the sixteenth century; and in Chaucer's 
time, the word third, as every body knows, was 
written thridde, or thrydde, 1 believe that the h 
in Jhon was introduced, as it was in other words 
in German, to give force to the following vowel. 
Certain letters were formerly used in old French 
in like manner, which were dropped upon the 
introduction of accents. B. WILLIAMS. 

Hillingdon, Jan. 5. 


Your correspondent "R.Q." will find two pic- 
tures of Charles I. of the same allegorical cha- 
racter ?s that described by him in his note (ante, 
p. 137), one on the wall of the stairs leading to 
the north gallery of the church of St. Botolph, 
B.shopsgate, and the other in the hall of the 
law courts in Guildhall Yard. I know nothing 

the history of the first-mentioned picture ; the 
latter, until within a few years, hung on the wall, 

JAN. 19. 1850.] 



above the gallery, in the church of St. Olave, 
Jewry, when, upon the church undergoing re- 
pair, it was taken down, and, by the parishioners, 
presented to the corporation of London, who 
placed it in its present position. In the church of 
St. Olave there were two other pictures hung in 
the gallery, one representing the tomb of Queen 
Elizabeth, copied from the original at Westminster, 
the other of Time on the Wing, inscribed with 
various texts from Scripture. Both these pictures 
were presented at the same time with the picture 
of Charles I. to the corporation, and are now in 
the hall in Guildhall Yard. The representation 
of Queen Elizabeth's tomb is to be met with, I 
believe, in some other of the London churches. 
The picture in Bishopsgate Church is fully de- 
scribed in the 1st vol. of Malcolm's Londininm 
Redimvum, p. 243., and the St. Olave's pictures 
are mentioned in the 4th vol. of the same work, 
p. 563. Malcolm states he was not able to find 
any account of the Bishopsgate painting in the 
parish books. Hitherto I have not been able to 
discover anything connected with the history of 
the St. Olave's pictures, which, as the old church 
was destroyed in the great fire of 1666, were 
doubtless placed there subsequently to that year. 
I shall be glad if any of your readers can throw 
any light as to the time when, and the circum- 
stances under which, such pictures as I have 
mentioned, referring to Queen Elizabeth and 
Charles I., were placed in our churches. 



In the Journal of the Arch ecological Institute, for 
September, 1848, there are some most interesting 
notes on the subject of " Flaying in Punishment 
of Sacrilege," by Mr. Way. Since then I have 
felt peculiar interest in the facts and traditions 
recorded by Mr. Way. Can any of your corre- 
spondents, or Mr. Way himself, give any further 
references to authors by whom the subject is men- 
tioned, besides those named in the paper to which 
I allude? A few weeks ago 1 received a piece of 
skin, stated to be human, and taken from the door 
of the parish church of Hadstock, in Essex. 
Together with this I received a short written 
paper, apparently written some fifty years ago, 
which ascribes the fact of human skin being found 
on the door of that church, to the puni>linu -nt, not 
of sacrilege, but of a somewhat different crime. 
This piece of skin has been pronounced to be 
human bv the highest authority. As the above 
qu "ry might lead to some lengthy "notes," I 
desire only to be informed of the titles of any 
works, ancient or modern, in which distinct men- 
tion, or allusion, is made of the punishment of 
flaying. R. V. 



Pokership or Parkership. In Collins' Peerage, 
vol. iv. p. 242., 5th edition, 1779, we are told 
that Sir Robert Harley, of Wigmore Castle, in 
1604, was made Forester of Boringwood, alias 
Bringwood Forest, in com. Hereford, with the 
office of the Pokership, and custody of the forest or 
chase of Prestwood for life. The same word 
occurs in the edition (the 3rd) of 1741, and in 
that edited by Sir Egerton Brydges in 1812 
(vol. iv. p. 57.). 

If Pokership be not a misprint or misreading of 
the original authority, viz. Put. 2. Jac. I. p. 21., 
for Parkership, can any of your readers tell me 
the meaning of " the Pokership" which is not to be 
found in any book of reference within my reach ? 
I like the " NOTES AND QUERIES" very much. 

Audley End, Jan. 9. 1850. BRAYBKOOCE. 

Boduo or Boduoc on British Coins. I observe 
there is a prevailing opinion that the inscription 
on the British coin, " Boduc or Boduoc," must be 
intended for the name of our magnanimous Queen 
Boadicea. I am sorry to cast a cloud over so 
pleasant a vision, but your little book of QUERIES 
tempts me to throw in a doubt. 

Although the name Budic is not met with in the 
pedigrees of England, commonly given by Welsh 
heralds, yet it is often found among the families 
of the Welsh in Brittany, and as they are reported 
to be early descendants of the Welsh of England, 
there can be little doubt that the name was once 
common in England. I beg leave, therefore, to 
query, Whether the inscription is not intended for 
a Regulus of Britain of that name ? P. 

The Origin of the word Snob. Can any of your 
valuable correspondents give me the origin or 
derivation of the word Snob ? 

When, and under what peculiar circumstances, 
was it first introduced into our language ? 

In the town in which I reside, in the north of 
England, the word Snob was formerly applied to 
a cobbler, and the phrase was in use, " Snip the 
tailor, and Snob the cobbler." 

I cannot discover how and why the word Snob 
was enlarged into its present comprehensive mean- 

Explanations of many of the slang phrases met 
with in the dramatic works of the last century, 
such as, " Thank you, sir, I owe you one," " A 
Rowland for an Oliver," "Keep moving, dad," 
&c. &c. would perhaps give much light upon the 
manners of the times, and an interesting history 
might be compiled of the progress of slang phrases 
to the present day. ALPHA. 

Mertens, Martins, or Martini, the Printer. Can 
any of your correspondents inform me what was 
really the Mirname of Theodoric Meitens, Mar- 
tins, or Martini, the printer of Louvain, and who 



[No.- 12. 

was a friend of Erasmus ? In a small volume of 
Iris, now before me, printed in 1517, the colophon 
gives : " Lovanii apud Theodoricum Martinum 
anno MDXVII men^e Aprill ;" while, on the reverse 
of the same leaf, is a wooden block, of his device, 
occupying the whole page, and beneath it are 
inscribed the words " Theodoricus Martini." This 
appears to put Mertens out of the question. W. 

Queen's Messengers. I should esteem it a favour 
conferred if any of your readers could give me 
any memoranda touching the early origin of the 
corps now termed Queen's Messengers, the former 
" Knightes caligate of Armes." The only mention 
that I have read of their origin is a brief notice in 
Knight's London, No. 131. p. 91.; but doubtless 
there exists, did I know what works to consult, 
many more voluminous a history of their origin 
and proceedings than the short summary given in 
the work of Mr. Knight. In whose reign were 
they first created ? and by whom were they ap- 
pointed ? In fact, any data relating to their early 
history would very much oblige, J. U. G. G. 

Bishop Lesly of Ross' Epitaph Machoreus or 
Macorovius, "De Prcelio Aveniniuno." Would any 
of your readers be so kind as to favour me with a 
copy of the Latin epitaph of Bishop Lesly, of 
Ross, inscribed en his tomb in the abbey church 
of Gurtenburg, near Brussels? 

Can any one furnish the entire title and imprint 
of a Latin poem, De Prodio Aveniniano, said to have 
been written in 1594, by a Scottish Jesuit named 
Alexander Macorovius, or Machoreus ? Any par- 
ticulars concerning this author would gratify 


The Word " Cannibal" When was the word 
Cannibal first used in English books ? - To what 
language does it belong? and what is its exact 
meaning? \y p 

Sir William Rider. " H. F." would feel obliged 
by a reference to any work containing an account 
of Sir William Rider and his family. He was 
Lord Mayor of London in 1600; and his daugh- 
ter Mary was married to Sir Thomas Lake, of 
Cannons, Secretary of State temp. James I. He 
wishes more particularly to ascertain the date of 
Sir William Rider's death. 

The Word " Poghele." What is the etymoWy 
and precise meaning of the word " Poghele" (pro- 
nounced Poughley), or rather the first part of it, 
which occurs occasionally as the name of a place 
in the county of Berks, and perhaps elsewhere? W. 

Duncan Campbell. -Was the Duncan Campbell, 
of whom memoirs were written by Defoe, a real 
or an imaginary person ? If the former, where can 
one find any authentic account of him ? L. B 

Boston de Bury de Bib. Monastcriorum. Can 
any of your correspondents give me a reference 
to the original MS. of Boston de Bury de Biblio- 
thecis Monasteriorum f P. 

Cazena on the Inquisition. Can any one tell 
me what is the public opinion of Cazena's work on 
the Inquisition ? I see Lirnborch and many others- 
quoted concerning that tribunal, but never Ca- 
zena. Is the book scarce ? or is it not esteemed ? 
I never saw but one copy. p^ 

The Reconciliation, 1554. In 1554 Cardinal 
Pole directed a register to be kept in every parish 
of all the parishioners who, on a certain day, were 
to be reconciled to the Church of Rome and 
absolved. (Burnet's Ref. vol. iii. p. 245.) 

The Bishop of London's Declaration- thereon 
(Feb. 19. 1554) runs thus: 

" And they not so reconciled, every one of them 
shall have p'rocesse made agaynst him accordyng to 
the canons, as the case shall requyre; for which pur-' 
pose the pastours and curates of every paryshe shal be 1 
commaunded by their archedeacon to certyfye me in 
writinge of every man and woman's name that is not 
so reconciled." 

Have any of your readers at any time seen and 
made a note of such a register ? 

The most probable place of deposit would be 
the Bishop's Registry, but I have never yet been 
fortunate enough to meet with one of these 
curious returns. J. S. B; 


Darkness at the Crucifixion. The following 
passage, in a volume of Lectures by thei Rev. H. 
Blunt, has fallen under my notice : 

" It was this Dionysius (the Areopagite) of whom 
the earliest Christian historians relate that, being at 
Heliopolis, in Egypt, at the time of our Lord's cruci- 
fixion, when he beheld the mid-day darkness which 
attended that awful event, he exclaimed, Either the 
God of Nature suffers, or the frame of the world will 
be dissolved.' " 

Haying very limited opportunity of studying the 
ancient historians, I should be greatly obliged if 
you would inform me from what work this ac- 
count is derived ; or refer me to any authors, not 
having embraced Christianity, who give a descrip- 
tion of the crucifixion of our Saviour ; and espe- 
cially jvith reference to the " darkness over all the 
earth " at the time of that event, mentioned by 
St. Luke, who also adds, that ** the sun was dark- 
ened." Your kindly consenting, as you did in 
your second number, to receive queries respecting 
references, has induced me to trouble you so far. 

S. A. M. 

[Our correspondent will find much that is to his 
purpose, both in the way of statements and of reference 

. 1'j. 1850.] 



to original authorities, in Lardner's Jewish and Heathen 
Testimonies, chap. xiii. of the Heathen Authors ; 
vol. ii. p. 1 25. of the original 4to. edition ; or vol. vii. 
p. 370. of the 8vo. ed!tion of his works by Kippis, 

High- Doctrine. In the Cambridgeshire fens 
there are a grout number of Dissenters, and I 
believe Cromwell's Ironsides were chiefly recruited 
from those districts. On the higher lands adjoin- 
ing are the old parish churches ; and in conversa- 
tion it is not uncommon to hear the tenets of the 
Church of England described as High land Doc- 
trine, in centra-distinction to the Low land, or 
Dissenters' doctrine. 

The thing is amusing, if nothing else, and I 
heard it while staying some few years ago with 
mv brother, who lives on the edges of the Cam- 
bridgeshire fens, E. H. 

Wife of Robert de Brnce. In the Surrenden 
Collection is an interesting roll, entitled ".Libe- 
ratio facta Ingelardo de Warlee Custodi Garde- 
robe, 7 E. 2.;' 

It is, as its title imports, the release to the 
keener of the wardrobe, for one year's accounts, 
a. 7 E. 2. 

I shall probably be able to send you therefrom 
a few " notes " illustrative of the history of that 

As a commencement, I think that the subjoined 
" note " will interest your historical readers. 

It appears that the unfortunate wife of Robert 
Bruce was then consigned to the care of the 
Abbess of Barking, with an ajlowahce of 20*. per 
week for the same. She was, I believe, the daugh- 
ter of Henry de Burgh, Earl of Ulster, and died 
in 1 328. In the above roll there is the following 
entry : 

" C g libcrati Anne de Veer Ahbatisse de Brrkyng, 
per manus domini Roberti de Wakfeld ck-rici, super 
expensis domine Elizabelhe uxoris Roberti de Brus, 
percipientis per ebdomadum x.\'.. et ibidem perhendi- 

" C* liberati Johanni de Stystede valletto Abbatisse 
de Berkyrigg, per manus proprias, super expensis 
Domine de Brus in Abbathia de Berkyng perhendi- 

It does not appear, in the above roll, how long 
the hapless queen remained in the abbey. 

Ryarsh Vicarage, Dec. 14. 1849. 

The Talisman of Charlemagne. I beg to refer 
your correspondent, on the subject of Charle- 
magne's Tal^nian, to what professes to be a cor- 
rect, representation of this antique relic, in The 
Illustrated London News, of March 8th, 1845; but 
it is not there described as "a small nut, in a gold 
filigree envelopment," and gives the idea of an 

ornament much too large for the finger or even 
wrist of any lady : that paper says, 

" This curious object of vertu is described in the 
Parisian journals as, la plus belle relique de 
PEurope;' and it has, certainly, excited considerable 
interest in the archaeological and religious circles of 
the continent. The talisman is of fine gold, of round 
form, as our illustration shows, set with gems, and in 
the centre are two rough sapphires, and a portion of 
the Holy Cross ; besides other relics brought from the 
Holy Land." 

The rest of the description much resembles your 
correspondent's, and asserts the talisman to be at 
that time the property of Prince Louis Napoleon, 
then a prisoner in the chateau of Ham. S. A. M. 

Saycrs the Caricaturist. In tVright's England 
under the House of Hanover, vol. ii. p. 83 n., it is 
stated that James Sayer, the caricaturist, " died 
in the earlier part of the present century, no long 
time after his patron, Pitt." In Sepulchral Remi- 
niscences of a Market Town, by Mr. Dawson 
Turner (Yarmouth, 8vo. 1848), p. 73 n., the 
caricaturist is called Savers, and is said to have 
died on the 20th of April, 1823. C. H. COOPER. 

Cambridge, Dec. 29. 1849. 

May -Day. To what old custom does the fol- 
lowing passage allude ? 

" It is likewise on the first day of this month [May] 
that we see the ruddy milk-maid exerting herself in a 
most sprightly manner under a pyramid of silver 
tankards, and, like the virgin Tarpeia, oppressed by the 
costly ornaments which her benefactors lay upon her." 
Spectator, No. 365. MKLANION: 

[Our correspondent will find much curious illus- 
tration of this now obsolete custom in Strutt's Sports 
and Pastimes, p. 357. (ed. Hone), where the preceding 
passage from the Spectator is quoted ; and we are told 
" these decorations of silver cups, tankards, &v. were 
borrowed for the purpose, and hung round the milk 
pails (with the addition of flowers and ribands), which 
the maidens carried upon their heads when they went 
to the houses of their customers, and danced in order 
to obtain a small gratuity from each of them." In 
Tempest's Cryes of London there is a print of a well- 
known merry milk-maid. Kate Smith, dancing with 
the milk pail decorations upon her head. See also 
Hone's Every Day Book, i. p. 576\] 

Dr. Dees Petition. There is no mention of 
Dr. Dee's petition to King James in the list of his 
works in Tanner's Bibliothcca Britannica ; but in 
Beloe's Anecdotes, vol. ii. p. 263., is an account of 
the preface to a scarce work of his, in which he 
defends himself from the charge of being a con- 
jurer, or caller of divels, &c. 

Tanner mentions his Supplication to Queen Mary 
for the Recovery of Ancient Writings and Monu- 

I fear, however, that your correspondent is ac- 



[No. 12. 

quainted with these more easily obtained accounts 
of Dr. Dee's works. 

The Dictionary of M. 1'Abbe Ladoocat states 
that he died in England, A. D. 1607, at the age of 
81 ; so that his petition to James must have been 
made at the close of his life. HERMES. 

Lines quoted by Goethe. I beg to inform your 
correspondent "TREBOR," that he will find the 
lines quoted by Goethe in his Autobiography, in 
Rochester's Satire against Mankind. J. S. 

Queen Mary's Expectations. Most persons have 
heard of the anxiety of Queen Mary I. for the 
birth of a child, and of her various disappointments ; 
but many may not be aware that among the Royal 
Letters in the State Paper Office, are letters in 
French, prepared in expectation of the event, 
addressed by Queen Mary, without date, except 
" Hampton Court, 1555" (probably about May), 
to her father-in-law, the Emperor Charles V., to 
Henry II., King of France, to Eleonora, Queen 
Dowager of France, to Ferdinand I., King of Bo- 
hemiarto Mary, the Queen Dowager of Bohemia, 
to the Doge of 'Venice, to the King of Hungary, and 
to the Queen Dowager of Hungary, announcing to 
each the birth of her child, the word being so 
written fl, as to admit of being mnde filz, or of 
an easy alteration to the feminine fille, if necessary. 

J. E. 

Kens Morning and Evening Hymns. I saw it 
mentioned in a review in the Guardian some few 
weeks ago, as one merit of the last edition of the 
Book of Common Prayer, published by Eyre and 
Spottiswoode, that it had restored Bishop Ken's 
Morning and Evening Hymns to their original 

I have no means of accurately testing this asser- 
tion by reference to any undoubted version of the 
date of the original publication, but 1 have no 
doubt that this might easily be done through the 
medium of your paper ; and I think you will agree 
with me that, if it should be substantiated, not 
only is credit due to the Queen's printers, but also 
that it is an example which ought to be followed, 
without exception, in all future editions of the 
Prayer Book. 

The variations, which I have noted in the ordi- 
nary version of the Hymns, as given in other 
Prayer Books, are too numerous to be inserted 
here, not to mention the omission of several 
stanzas, three in the Morning Hymn, together 
with the Doxology, and one in the Evening 

If they be false readings, no doubt they have 
been allowed to creep in inadvertently, and need 
only pointing out to be corrected. It occurred 
to me that this might be done most effectually in 
your columns, and I venture to hope that you will 
not consider it a task unworthy the high aim 

which you have in view in your admirable pub- 
lication. OXONIENSIS. 

[Bishop Ken's Morning and Evening Hymns have 
been lestored in Messrs. Eyre and Spottiswoode's last 
rubricated edition of the Common Prayer, as far as 
was practicable; they were carefully collated with the 
original, and all variations corrected, except those 
which would materially affect immemorial use. The 
entire hymns are of great length, but all those verses 
which have been at all generally sung in churches are 
to be found in the edition to which we refer. 

We may take this opportunity of noticing that the 
Queen's printers have lately restored the lesser Saints' 
Days to the kalendar in their smaller editions of the 
Common Prayer. We are not aware of any other 
similar editions in which the kalendar appears thus 

Etymology of " Daysman." What is the ety- 
mology of Daysman, which, in the Book of Job, 
and in some of our provincial dialects, means a 
mediator or arbitrator ? MARK ANTONY LOWER. 

[NAKES defines Daysman, an umpire or arbitrator, 
from his fixing a day for decision ; and adds, " Mr. 
Todd shows that day sjmetimes meant Judgment." 
Jacob, in his Law Dictionary, tells us, " Days-man 
signifies, in the North of England, an arbitrator or 
person chosen to determine an affair in dispute, who is 
called a Dies-man or Days-man." Jacob's definition 
may be again illustrated from NARES: "In Switzer- 
land (as we are informed by Simlerus) they had some 
common arbitrators, or dayesmen, in every towne, that 
made a friendly composition betwixt man and man." 
Burton, Anat j 

Roland Monoux. In answer to your corre- 
spondent "CD," p. 13J7., the monumental brass in 
his possession is, no doubt, from the church at 
Edmonton, Middlesex. Lysons (Environs of Lon- 
don, vol. ii. p. 263.), in his description of Edmon- 
ton Church, says, " Near the door is a brass plate, 
with some English verses to the memory of RO- 
LAND Moxoux (no date)." He subjoins, in a note, 
" arms on a chevron betw. 3 oak-lea,ves as many 
bezants, on a chief 2 anchors, a martlet for differ- 
ence. On the brass plate are some English verses, 
nowise remarkable." 

These arms (omitting the chief) are those borne 
by the Baronet Monnoux of Sandy in Bedford- 
shire (extinct in 1814), who was descended from 
Sir George Monox, of Walthamstow, Lord Mayor 
of London, who died in 1543, to whom and his 
lady there are brasses in Walthamstow Church. 
ROLAND of Edmonton was doubtless of the same 
family. I am not able to give an opinion of the date 
of the brass in question ; but it might be readily 
conjectured from the style of its execution. 

Your readers will, I am sure, all unite with me 
in commendation of your correspondent " CD's " 
correct feeling in offering to restore this monu- 
ment to its original site. I hope "CD's" example 
will find many followers. There are hundreds of 

19. 1850.] 



these pillaged brasses in the hands of " collectors," 
and your admirable publication will have effected a 
great public good, if it shall have been instru- 
mental in promoting their restoration. 

Cambridge, Jan 1. 1S5O. E. VENTRIS. 

Ancient Motto. In reference to a query (No. 6. 
p. 93.), and a reply (No. 7. p 104.), permit me to 
remark, that St. Augustine, the celebrated Bishop 
of Hippo, was the person who caused to be en- 
graved on his table the distich against detractors. 
Possidius, in his Life of that Father (S. Augustini, 
Opera Omnia, Paris, 1690, vol. x. part ii. p. 272.), 
gives the verses no doubt an adaptation of 
Horace thus : 

" Quisquis amat dictis absentum rodere vitam 
Hanc mensam indignam noverit esse sibi." 

The Benedictine editors subjoin two readings 
of the pentameter : 

" Hac mensa indignam noverit esse suam." 

" Hanc raensaiu vetitam noverit csge sibi." 


Mr. Cresswell and Miss Warneford. At p. 157. 
of the " NOTES AND QUERIES," your correspondent 
"B." inquires about, a pamphlet relating to the 
marriage, many years ng<>, of Mr. Cresswell and 
Miss Warneford. " P. C. S. S." cannot give the 
precise title of the pamphlet in question ; but he 
is enabled to state, on the authority of Watts 
(BiMioth. Brit.), and on that of his old fri.-nd 
Sylvanus Urban (frent. Mag. vol. xvii. p. 543.), 
that it was published in London, towards the end 
of the year 1747, and that the very remarkable 
and very disgraceful transactions to which it refers 
were after svards (in 1749) made the subject of a 
novel, called Dalinda, or The Double Marriage. 
Lond. 12mo. Price threepence. 

The gentleman who was the hero of this scan- 
dalous affair was Mr. Thomas Estcourt Civsswell, 
of Pinkney Park, Wilts, M.P. for Wootton Bassctt, 
He married Anne, the sole and very wealthy 
heiress of Edward Warneford, Esq. As it cannot 
be the object of the " NOTKS AND QUERIES" to 
revive a tale of antiquated scandal, "P. C. S.S." 
will not place upon its pages the details of this 
painful affair the cruel injury inflicted upon 
Mi-.s Scrope (the lady to whom Mr. Cresswell 
was .said to liave been secretly married before his 
uuion with Miss Warneford) and the base and 
unmanly contrivance by which, it was stated, that 
he endeavoured to keep possession of both wives 
at the same time. Miss Scrope appears to have 
retained, for a considerable time, a deep sense of 
her injuries ; for in 1749 she published a pamphlet, 
in her own nnme, called Miss Scrope's Answer to 
Mr. Cress well's Narrative. (Lond. Baldwin. Price 
2*. Gd. 

If "B." should be desirous of further informa- 

tion, he is referred, by "P.C.S.S.," to the General 
Evening Post of Oct. 3. and 31. 1747, to the Gen- 
tleman s Magazine for that month and year, and to 
the same work, vol.xix. pp. 192. 288. P.C.S.S. 


Little as public attention has of late years been 
devoted to commentating upon Pope, his writings 
and literary history, there are no doubt many able 
and zealous illustrators of them among lovers of 
literature for its own sake ; and many a curious 
note upon the Bard of Twickenham and his works 
will probably be evoked by the announcement, 
that now is the moment when they may be pro- 
duced with most advantage, when Mr. Murray is 
about to bring forth a new edition of Pope, under 
the able and experienced editorship of Mr. Croker. 
Besides numerous original inedited letters, Mr. 
Croker's edition will have the advantage of some 
curious books bought at the Brockley Hall sale, in- 
cluding four volumes of Libels upon Pope, and a 
copy of Ruffhead's Life of him, with Warburton's 
manuscript notes. 

No one has rendered better service to the study 
of Gothic architecture in this country than Air. 
J. H. Parker, of Oxford. The value of his ad- 
mirable Glossary of Terms used in Architecture, is 
attested by the fact, that it has already reached a 
fourth edition, and that another will soon be called 
for. But we doubt whether he has done any 
thing better calculated to promote this interesting 
branch of Archaeology than by the production of 
his Introduction to the Study of Gothic Architecture, 
which originally written as part of a series of 
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Shakespeare, in the Second Part of Henry IV. 
act v. scv. 3., makes Silence sing the following 
scrap : 

** Do me right, 
Aud dub me knight : 

And Nash, in his Summers Last Will and Tes- 
tament, 1600 (reprinted in the last edition of 
Dodsley's Old Plays, vol. xi. p. 47.), has 

" Monsieur Mhigo for quaffing doth surpass, 
In cup, in can, or glass ; 
God Bacchus, do me right, 
And dub me knight, 


T. Warton, in a note in vol. xvii. of the Variorum 
Shakespeare, says, "Samingo, that is San Domingo, 
as some of the commentators have observed. But 
what is the meaning and propriety of the name 
hi'iv, has not yet been shown. Justice Silence is 
here introduced as in the midst of his cups; and I 

remember a black-letter ballad* in which either a 
San DovaihgO) or a Signior Domingo, is celebrated 
for his miraculous feats in drinking. Silence, in 
the abundance of his festivity, touches upon some 
old song, in which this convivial saint, or signior, 
was the burden. Perhaps, too, the pronunciation 
is here suited to the character." I must own that 
I cannot see what San Domingo has to do with a 
drinking song. May it not be an allusion to a 
ballad or song on Domingo, one of King Henry 
the Eighth's jesters ? 

" Domyngo Lomelyn* 

That was wont to wyn 
Moche money of th# kynge, 
At the eardys and haserdynge.' v 

Skelton's Why come ye not to. Court* 9 
ed. Dyee, ii. p. 63. 

None of the commentators have noticed this, but 
I think my suggestion carries with it some weight, 

In the Privy Purse Expenses of King Henry the 
Eighth (published by Sir H. Nicolas* in 1827), 
are many entries concerning this Domingo, most 
of which relate to payments of money that he had: 
won from the king at cards and dice. He was 
evidently, as Sir Harris Nicolas observes, one of 
King Henry's " diverting vagabonds," and seems 
to have accompanied his. majesty wherever he 
went, for we find that he was with him at Calais 
in 1532. In all these entries he is only mentioned 
as Domingo; his surname, and the fact of his 
being a Lombard, we learn from Skelton's poem, 
mentioned above. 

The following story, told of Domingo, occurs in 
Mr. (afterwards Sir John) Harington's Treatise 
on Playe, 1597, printed in the Nug<e Antique, 
edit. Park, vol. i. p. 222. : 

' The other tale I wold tell of a willlnge and wise 
loss I have hearde dyversly tolde. Some tell it of 
Kyng 1 Mill lip and a favoryte of his; some of our 
worthy King Henry VIII. and Domingo; and I may 
call it a tale ; becawse perhappes it is but a tale, but 
thus they tell it : The kinge, 55 eldest hand, set up 
all restes, and discarded flush ; Domingo, or Dundego 
(call him how you will), helde it upon 49, or soin 
such game ; when all restes were up and they had dis- 
carded, the kinge threw his 55 on the boord open, 
with great latter, supposing the game (as it was) in 



[No. 13. 

manner sewer. Domingo was at his last carde m- 
cownterd flush, as the standers by saw, and tolde the 
day after ; but seeing the king so mery, would not for 
a reste at primero, put him owt of that pleasawnt 
conceyt, and put up his cardes quietly, yielding it 

Park was not acquainted with any particulars 
of this Domingo Lomelyn, for he says, in a note, 
" Query, jester to the king ?" 

The first epigram in Samuel Rowland s enter- 
taining tract, The Letting of Humours Blood in 
the Head-vaine, &c. 1600, is upon "Monsieur 
Domingo ;" but whether it relates to King Henry's 
jester is a matter of some question. 



Having only just observed an announcement of 
a new edition of the works of Marlowe, I take the 
earliest opportunity of calling the attention of the 
editor to a circumstance which it is important 
that he should know, and the knowledge of which, 
should it have escaped his notice, as it has that 
of all other writers on the subject, I trust may 
not be too late for his present purpose. Without 
farther preface, I will introduce the subject, by 
asking Mr. Dyce to compare two passages which 
I shall shortly point out ; and, having done so, I 
think he will agree with me in the opinion that 
the internal evidence, relating to our old dramatic 
literature, cannot have been very much studied, 
while such a discovery as he will then make still 
remained to be made. The first passage is from the 
so-called old " Taming of a Shrew " (six old plays, 
1779, p. 161.), and runs as follows : 

" Now that the gloomy shadow of the night, 
Longing to view Orion's drisling looks, 
Leaps from th' Antarctic world unto the sky, 
And dims the welkin with her pitchy breath ; " 

the second is from Doctor Faustus (Marlowe's 
Works, vol. ii. p. 127.), which, however, I shall 
save myself the trouble of transcribing ; as, with 
the exception of " look " for " looks," in the second 
line, and " his" for " her," in the fourth, the two 
passages will be found identical. Being, some 
years ago, engaged, in connection with the first of 
these plays, in the pursuit of a very different 
object, in which I cannot say that I altogether 
failed, and the result of which I may take an op- 
portunity of communicating, I made a note of 
the above ; and at the same time followed it up by 
a general examination of the style of Marlowe. 
And, to make a long matter short, I may say that 
in this examination, besides meeting with a dozen 
instances of the identity of the writer of passages 
in the Taming of a Shreiv and of passages in 
Marlowe's two plays, Doctor Faustus and Tambur- 
laine, I found such general resemblance in style as 

left no doubt upon my mind that, if one of these 
plays be his acknowledged work, as indisputable 
will be his claim to the other two. I was not 
aware at that time of the evidence, in Henslow's 
Diary, of Marlowe's authorship of Tamburlaine ; 
but, so far from considering it inferior, I was in- 
clined to place it, in some important respects, at 
the very head of his plays. 

I will not take up your space now with the 
parallel passages which I noted ; but, should you 
wish it, and be able to make room for them, I will 
furnish you with a list. It is, of course, obvious 
that the one I have quoted proves nothing by 
itself; accumulated instances, in connection with 
the general question of style, alone become im- 
portant. I will conclude, by giving a list which I 
have made out of Marlowe's plays, in favour of 
which I conceive there to be either internal or 
external evidence : 

" Locrine. 

Tamburlaine the Great (two parts). 
Jew of Malta. 
Doctor Faustus. 
Edward the Second. 
Massacre of Paris. 
Taming of a Shrew. 
Dido, Queen of Carthage (with Nash)." 

St. John's Wood, Jan. 12. 1850. 
[We trust our correspondent will favour us with the 
further communications he proposes on this very in- 
teresting point.] 


Mr. Editor, 1 never thought of asking my 
Low-Norman fellow -rustics whether the lady- 
bird had a name and a legend in the best pre- 
served of the northern Romance dialects : on the 
score of a long absence (eight-and-twentv years), 
might not a veteran wanderer plead forgiveness ? 
Depend upon it, Sir, nevertheless, that should 
any reminiscences exist among my chosen friends, 
the stout-hearted and industrious tenants of a soil 
where every croft and paddock is the leaf of a 
chronicle, it will be communicated without delay. 
There is more than usual attractiveness in the as- 
tronomical German titles of this tiny " red chafer," 
or rother haefer, SONNEN KAEFER and VNSER 
FRAWEN KVHLEIN, the Sun-chafer, and our Lady's 
little cow. (Isis or lo ?) 

With regard to its provincial English name, 
Barndbee, the correct interpretation might be 
found in Barn-bie, the burning, or fire-fly, a com- 
pound word of Low -Dutch origin. 

We have a small black beetle, common enough 
in summer, called PAN, nearly hemispherical : you 
must recollect that the a is as broad as you can 
afford to make it, and the final n nasal. Children 
never forgot, whenever they caught this beetle, to 

JAN. 26. 1850.] 



place it in the palm of their left hand, when it was 
invoked as follows : 

* PAN, PAN, mourtre m6 ten sang, 
Et j ' te dourai de bouan viri blianc ! " 

which means, being interpreted, 

" PAN, PAN, show me thy blood, 
And I will give thee good white wine !** 

As he uttered the charm, the juvenile pontiff spat 
on poor Thammuz, till a torrent of blood, or 
what seemed such, " ran purple " over the urchin's 

Paul-Ernest Jablonski's numerous readers need 
not be told that the said beetle is an Egyptian 
emblem of the everlasting and universal soul, and 
that its temple is the equinoctial circle, the upper 

As a solar emblem, it offers an instructive object 
of inquiry to the judicious gleaners of the old 
world's fascinating nursery traditions. Sicilian 
Diodorus tells us that the Earth's lover, Attis (or 
Adonis), after his resuscitation, acquired the di- 
vine title of PAPAN.f To hazard the inoffensive 
query, why one of our commonest great beetles is 
still allowed to figure under so distinguished a 
name, will therefore reflect no discredit upon a 
cautious student of nearly threescore years. The 
very Welsh talked, in William Baxter's time, of 
" Heaven, as biigarth PAPAN," the sun's ox-stall or 
resting-place; and here you likewise find his 
beetle- majesty, in a Low-Norman collection of 
insular rhymes : 

" Sus 1'bord piasottaient, cote-a-cote, 
Les equerbots et les PA PANS, 
Et ratte et rat laissaient leux crotte 
Sus les vieilles casses et ineme dedans." J 

By the help of Horapollo, Cliiflet's gnostic gems, 
and other repertories of the same class, one might, 
peradventure, make a tolerable case in favour of 
the mythological identity of the legend of Lady- 
bird that is, the sun-chafer, or barn bie, the^re- 
fly, " whose house is burnt, and whose bairns are 
ten," of course the first ten days of the Egyptian 
year with the mythical storien of the said black 
or dark blue lords of radiance, Pan and Papun. 

The Egyptians revere the beetle as a living and 
breathing image of the sun, quoth Porphyry || 
That will account for this restless delver's extra- 
ordinary talismanic renown. I think the lady- bird 
is " the speckled beetle" which was flung in hot 
water to avert storms.^f Pi^norius gives us the 
figure of a beetle, crowned with the sun, and en- 

* Pantheon ^Egypt. torn. 1 . p. 63. 
f Diodor. Sic. liiblioth. p. 134. 
\ Rimes Guernesiaises, p. 4. 

Or the Dog-days. Each sign has three Deoans, 
or captains often. 

|| Porphyr. apud Euseb. Priep. iii. 4. 
^f Plin. Nat. Hist. lib. 37. cap. 10. 

circled with the serpent of eternity ; while another, 
an onyx in the collection of Abraham Gorlanis, 
threatens to gnaw at a thunderbolt.* 

Reuven's book on the Egyptian Museum, which 
I have not seen, notices an invocation to "the 
winged beetle, the monarch (rupaw/oj) of mid- 
heaven," concluding with a devout wish that some 
poor creature w may be dashed to pieces." 

Can any of your readers inform me what is 
meant by u the blood of the Phuon f n 

Yours truly, ? 

St. Martin's, Guernsey, Jan. 9, I860. 




I send you a few Notes, collected out of the 
Churchwardens* Accounts of St. Margaret's, 

Istly. Some regarding the weight of bells in 
ancient days : 

1526. The first bell weith - 
The second bell weith 
The third bell weith 
The fourthe bell weith 



ixC vjft, 

M. xtb. 

The fyfthe belonging to our grete Lady Bre- 

therhed , - MvjCxiiijfc. 

The sume of all the weight MMMMvuC ufe, 

" 1592. The broken Tennor waied xvjC *xJN>. 

The new tennor ys - - xiijCdi 

The greatist bell ys xxj C and di at Ivj*. the C, 

The iiij bell ys - xvijC and di and xiiijlb. 

The xiiij bell taken awaie wa* - xiijC dl 

The ij bell carried awaiu was viijC iij qters. 

The new bell viijCdi, 

Som totall of the bells, yron, tyrnber, and work- 

manshipp IxxW. vs. vrf." 

This appears to have been a sorry bargain, for 
soon after occur sad complaints of these bells, 
" very falsly and deceytfully made by Valentyne 
Trever." Perhaps your correspondent ** CEPHAS " 
may explain the following entry : 
1486. Item, paid for makyng of a newe clapper to 
Judas bell xA" 

2ndly. Some entries, which make up a little 
history of a rood-loft : 

** 146O. Item, sol' pro le skoryng de la belles sup 1 le 

Rode lofte - "ijd. 

"1-180. Item, paide for a doore in the rode lofte to 

gave and kepe the pple from the Orgayns 


Item, paide to a oarpynter for makyng of the 
Crucy fix and the berae He standeth upon xl*. 

* Chiflet, p. 133. A genuine cockroach, and a 
formidable one, I think the English word of Spanish 



[No. 13. 

a more con- 

Item, paide for kervyng of Mary and John and 

the makyng newe - "* ' xxxiij*. iiijrf. 

Item, for gilding of the same Mary and John 

and the Crosse and iiij or Evangelysts 

\jl. vjs. \iijd. 

" 1530. Item, payd to a laborer for helpyng up the 
Roode Loft into the stepull - - viijd. 

" 1534. Payd for a present for Mr. Alford and Mr. 
Herytage for ther good wyll for tymber for 
the newe Rode lofte - - iijs. ijd." 

The fickle tyrant Henry VIII. dies ; 

sistent reign happily ensues. . 

" 1548. Item, for the takyng downe of the Roode, the 

Tabernacle, and the Images - iijs. vjd. 

Also payd to Thomas Stokedale for xxxv ells 

of clothe for the frunte of the Rode Lofte 

whereas the x Commandements be wrytten, 

price of the ell vjd. - - xxiijs. iiijrf. 

Also payd to him that dyd wryght the said 

x Commaundements and for ther drynkyng 

Ixvjs. ixrf." 

Queen Mary succeeds the boy-king Edward VI., 
and restore? the Ritual of her Church. 
" 1556. Item, pay'd for the Roode, Mary and John x/. 
" 1557. Item, for peyntyng the Roode, Mary and John 


For makyng xvij candilsticks for the roode- 
light - xjs. iiijrf." 

Upon the accession of Queen Elizabeth once 
more, and this time for ever, the rood was de- 
stroyed, and the loft, though " reformed," did not 
long survive it. 

** 1 559. Payde to John Rialle for his iij dayse work 
to take downe the Roode, Mary and John 

ij*. \\ijd. 

For clevyng and sawyng of the Roode, Mary 
and John - .... xijrf. 

"1560. Rec' for the beame the Roode stood on, for 

boords and other tymber parcell of the 

Roode loft - xljjs. 

For the rest of the stuf belongyng to the Roode 

lofte ...... j x / 4 

For the great clothe that hong before the 


Item, paide to joyners and labowrers abowt 

the takyug downe and new reformyng of the 

Roode Loft, &c. - - xxxvijZ. xs. ijd. 

Item, paide for boordes, glew, nayles, and 

other necessaries belonging to the saide loft 

xiiijV. xiij*. ixrf. 

Item, paide to a paynter for payntyng the 

same ----. x jj^ 

" 1562. For bearinge stones for the muringe up of the 

dore of the late rood lofte - - viijrf." 

The rapacious Puritans, of course, did not suffer 

any portion of the church-goods to escape their 

sacrilegious and itching pal ms , if convertible into 

money, so we read 

1 1645. Received of Arthur Condall in part of 5li for 
the screen and Organ-loft - - LS." 
S. M. W., Dec. 22. 1849. 


The Bagnio in Long Acre. Mr. Cunningham 
mentions the Queen's Bagnio in Long Acre. 
Query, was this the same as the Duke of York's 
Bagnio ? S. Haworth published, in a small 12mo. 
volume, without date, " A Description of the 
Duke of York's Bagnio, in Long Acre, and of the 
Mineral Bath and New Spaw thereunto belong- 

Tavistock Street, Covent Garden. Richard 
Leveridge, the celebrated singer, after his retire- 
ment from the stage, kept a tavern in this street. 
Here he brought out " A Collection of Songs, 
with the Musick, by Mr. Leveridge. In two 
volumes. London, Engrav'd and Printed for the 
Author in Tavistock Street, Covent Garden, 1727." 
The frontispiece was designed and engraved by 

Duke Street, Westminster. Miss Hawkins, in 
her Anecdotes, p. 186., speaking of Lady Lucy 
Meyrick, says, " On quitting her husband's family, 
she came to reside in Duke Street, Westminster, 
and lived in that house which had been Priors, 
and which exactly faces Charles Street." 

Richmond Buildings, Soho. Home Tooke re- 
sided here in 1775. He afterwards removed to 
Frith Street. 

Clare Marhet, originally called New Market, 
was established about the year 1660, by Lord 

" The city and my lord had a great lawsuit, which 
lasted many years, to the great expence of the city; 
but from the inequity of the times the city and my 
lord agreed, and gave it up to the lord ; and now it is 
become one of the greatest markets in the adjacent 
parts ; and from the success of this noble lord, they 
have got several charters for the erecting of several 
others since the year 1660; as that of St. James, by 
the Earl of St. Alban's ; Bloomsbury, by the Earl of 
Southampton; Brook Market, by the Lord Brook; 
Hungerford Market; Newport Market; besides the 
Hay Market, New Charingcross, and that at Petty 
France at Westminster, with their May fair in the fields 
behind Piccadilly." Harl. MS. 5900. 

London House Yard. Here was formerly the 
town house of the Bishop of London, which, being 
consumed in the great fire, the house in Alders- 
gate Street, formerly called Petre House, was 
rented for the town residence of the bishop, since 
which it obtained the title of London House. 


JAN. 26. 1850.] 




For poor ignorant people like myself pray 
insert the following, as perhaps some of your 
heraldic correspondents may afford some informa- 
tion for the benefit of your very humble servant. 

F. E. 

Newington, June 17. 1751. 

To take an account of what Coats of Arms or other 
Paintings are in the windows of the House Mercer 
lives of Mr. Filmer. 

Painted Glass in y' windows at Mr. Merser House is 
As foloweth 5 Coote of armse in 3 windowse in y' 
Kichen 2 Surkelor Coots of armse 6 Lians traveling 
6 flours of Luse all Rede & a Holfe Surkel a top 
With 2 flours of luce y 1 Glass painted Rede 
Blew yoler & of a Green Shaye. 

In y' Hall one ouel Pease of Painted Glass 

In Chakers of yoler & Green & blew 10 yong 

Hedge frougs 

Two Pikse of Armse on Each Side 
W. B. there was in this Rote on y* 
Gloss Lyfford but there is only now ford 
y' 3 fust Leters ar Broken & Lost oute 
One Pees of y' Painted Glass in y' frount 
Chamber window as foloweth 
In a Surkel 6 flours of Luse 6 Red Lyans 
Traveling 4 Rede Roses 2 Purpul Roses 
With a Croune a tope with 2 flours of Luse & 
A Crass and Beedse all Round y' Crowne 

In y' same window one more Cootse of arms 
In a Surkel Devidet is as foloweth 3 yoler 
Lyans passant* Set in a Silver Coler 6 flours of 


blew Sete in Green, y' Scoch Coote of arms on 
Each Side y' thisel & Crown & y' 3 floure coming 

out of the thistle 

y' Croun yoler & y' flours y" thisal of a silver Coler 
3 Leopards* Hedse Silver & Set in Silver 
2 Roses of a purpul Couler one on Each Side 
2 Spred Eaguls one on Each Side 
& 2 Wingse of a Goos in y' midel of y' arms 
of a Goold culer & a vessel like a decanter be- 
tween y m 

A croun a toupe with 2 flours of Luse on 
Each side of y* Croun one Crass in y e middel & 2 


Grasses on Each Side with white Beadse 
all Round y e Crounde a toupe. 


The singular error into which Messrs. Lye and 
Thorpe have fallen in the passage pointed out by 
Mr. Ilampson in ^Elfric's very interesting Collo- 

* Corrections in the original. 

quy, is the more remarkable as JElfric himself 
afforded a complete illustration of the passage, in 
his Glossary, where we have " BULGA, hydig-fat" 
It is possible, therefore, that higdifatu is a mere 
error of the scribe. Now Du Cange, v. Sulga, 
cites this very passage from JElfric's Glossary, 
and adds, " i. e. vas ex corio confectum" but his 
whole article is worth consulting. That the Latin 
word in the Colloquy should be Cassidi/ia is quite 
clear. Thus in an old MS. English Gloss on the 
Bible (penes me), the passage in Tobit, viii. 2., 
" Protulit de Casnidili suo," is rendered, " brouzt 
forth of his Scrippe" Coverdale has it, " take but 
of his bagge," and Luther, *' langte aus seinem 
Sacklein," which word is exchanged for budel in 
the Saxon version. In two old Teutonic Glosses 
on the Bible published by Graff (Diutiska, ii. 178.), 
we have the following variations : 

de cassidi burssa, de sacello t. sacciperio kiula 
de caxsili burissa, de sacello t. sacciperio kiulla. 

Another Gloss in Graff's 1st vol. p. 192., on the 
word Cadus, may perhaps throw some light on the 
subject. The philological student need not be re- 
minded of the wide application of the words vas, 
Lat.,/zz, O. G., and feet, A. S. ; but, for my own 
part, I conclude that the shoewright intended 
to designate by higdifatu all sorts of leathern bud- 
gets. Every "Anglo-Saxon student must be so 
sensible of the great obligation he is under to our 
distinguished scholar Mr. Thorpe, that I trust it 
will not be deemed invidious or ungracious to 
point out another passage in this Colloquy which 
seems to have hitherto baffled him, but which it 
appears to me may be elucidated. 

To the question, " Hwilce fixas gefehst thu ? " 
the fisherman answers, "^Elas aud hacodas, my- 
nos, aud aslputan, sceotan aud lampredan, aud 
swa hwylce swa on waetere swymath, sprote" 

Mr. Thorpe, in the 1st edition of his Analecta, 
says, " What is intended to be meant by this word 

unable to explain salu otherwise than by supposing 
it may be an error for salice" In his Glossary he 
has " spro't, ii. 2. ? sprout, rod ?" with a reference 
to his note. I must confess I cannot see how the 
substitution of salice for salu would make the pas- 
sage more intelligible, and the explanation of 
spro'te in the Glossary does not help us. The 
sense required appears to me to be, quickly, swiftly, 
and this will, I think, be found to be the meaning 
ofsprote. In the Moeso-Gothic Gospels the word 
sprauio occurs several times, and always in the sense 
of cito, subito; and though we have hitherto, I be- 
lieve, no other example in Anglo-Saxon of this ad- 
verbial use of the word, we are warranted, I think, 
in concluding, from the analogy of a cognate lan- 
guage, that it did exist. In regard to the evidently 



[No. 13. 

corrupt Latin word salu, I have nothing better to 
offer than the forlorn conjecture that, in monkish 
Latin, "saltu 1 " may have been contractedly writ- 
ten for saltuatim. 

Dr. Leo, in his Angelsachsiche Sprachproben, 
has reprinted the Colloquy, but without the Latin, 
and, among many other capricious deviations from 
Mr. Thorpe's text, in the answer of the shoewnght 
has printed hygefata! but does not notice the 
word in his Glossary. Herr Leo has entirely 
omitted the word sprote. S. W. SINGER. 

Jan. 14. 1850. 


[NASO has, in compliance with our request, furnished 
us with a facsimile of the heading of his early number 
of The Times, which is as follows : " THE (here an 
engraving of the King's Arms) TIMES, OR DAILY UNI- 
NESDAY, MARCH 12. 1788," and informs us that it was 
printed " By R. Nutkins, at the Logograpnic Press, 
Printing- House Square, near Apothecaries' Hall, 
Blackfriars," and the height to which the Mr. Walter 
of that day faad brought his invention, by the same 
energy by which his successor has raised THE TIMES 
to its present position, is shown by the following note 
from a kind and most able correspondent.] 

A much more remarkable specimen of Logo- 
graphic Printing than the number of the Times 
newspaper mentioned by NASO, No. 9., p. 136., is 
an edition of Anderson's History of Commerce, 
with a continuation, in 4 vols. 4to., printed by 
that method, in 17871789, "at the Logographic 
Press, .by J. Walter, Printing-House Square, 
Blackfriars." The work, which makes in all not 
much short of 4000 pages, is very well printed in 
all respects ; and the following interesting note on 
the subject of Logographic Printing is attached to 
the preface heading the Continuation, or fourth 

" Mr. Walter cannot here omit suggesting to the 
Public a few observations on his improved mode of 
printing LOGOGRAPHIC ALLY. In all projects for the 
general benefit, the individual who conceives that the 
trade in which he is engaged diminishes in its emolu- 
ments from any improvement which another may pro- 
duce in it, is too much disposed to become its enemy ; 
and, perhaps, the interest of indiv