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THE LIBRARY 

OF 

THE UNIVERSITY 
OF CALIFORNIA 

LOS ANGELES 



THE 

PARLIAMENTARY 

O R 
CONSTITUTIONAL 

Hiftory of England, 

From the earlieft TIMES, 

T O T H E 

Refloration of King CHARLES II. 

COLLECTED 

From the RECORDS, the ROLLS of Parliament, the JOURNALS 
of both Houfes, the Public LIBRARIES, Orignial MANU- 
SCRIPTS, fcarcc SPEECHES, and TRACTS ; all compared 
with the feveral Contemporary Writers, and cortne&ed, 
throughout, with the Hiftory of the Times. 

By SEVERAL HANDS. 

THESECOND EDITION. 

IN TWENTY-FOUR VOLUMES. 

VOL. XVIII. 

VromSept. 30,1648, to the Beheading of the King, theDiflblntion of 
riie Houfe of Lords, the Abolifhingof Monarchy, and the Commons 
aJluming to themfelves the fupreme Authority of the Nation. 

L O N D N y 

Printed for J. and R.TONSON, and A. MILLAR, in the 
Strand ; and VV. SAKDIJV, in Flect-Jlrect, 
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N the fecond ofOfiober the Houfe An. 24 Car. I. 
of Lords was called over, accord- t ' ^ ' _, 
ing to an Order of the 21 ft of laft oftober. 
Month, when feventeen Peers 
were abfent, ten of whom were 
excufed on different Avocations ; 
and then it was ordered on the 



Motion of the Lord Wkarton, in regard of the pre- 
fent Grids of Affairs, That the Houfe be called 
again on that Day Week, and that each Lord who 
was not then prefent, or excufed, or fhould not, 
upon another Summons, attend, be fined 50 /. 

This Day came a Letter from/the Parliament's 
Commiffioners treating with the King in the Ifle of 
Wight ; which, with the Papers inclofed, were read 
in hesc Verba : 

For the Rifbt Honourable the SPEAKER of the He iff 
of PEERS pro Tempore, 

My Lord^ Nezvpyrt, Sept. 29, 1648. 

O Y our laft, of the 2sth Inftant, we gave A Utter from 

JD your Lord(hi P s an Account of our Proceed- '^ 

* ing* the laft Week. Since that Time we, upon in the 

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The Parliamentary HISTORY 

the fame 25th, put in our Paper upon the Pro- 
portions concerning the Church, herewith fcnt 
"oVtcr ' * y ou wn i c ' n tne King received ; and upon Thurf- 

* day, being the 28th, the King delivered us a Pa- 
4 per, which afterwards we returned back with the 

* Paper here inclofcd ; conceiving, upon Ccnfulta- 

* tion had with our Commiflion and Inftructions, 
4 we had no Power to receive it : But the King, 

* after hearing of our Paper, refufed to receive it 
' or his own back again, and left them upon the 

* Table where we fat to treat; and fo we all then 

* departed. 

' On Friday^ the 29th, we met his Majefty again, 
4 who then offered us two other Papers ; which 
4 being read, we difccrned them to relate to the for- 
4 me'- Paper, which w?.s left upon the Table, as is 

* before expreffed ; therefore conceiving, by our 
4 Commiffion and InftrucHons, we had no P ower 
4 to receive them, we did refufe to accept them ; 

* and afterwards we withdrew and prefented his 

* Majefty with the Paper inclofed , to defire his 

* Anfwer to our Proportions delivered in concern- 

* ing the Church ; unto which we, as yet, have 
4 received no Anfwer. Of this we thought it our 
4 Duty to give your Lordfhips an Account, and 

* fhall further acquaint your Lordfhips with our 
4 Proceedings, as 1 there {hall be Occafion, and re- 

4 main, -., r , 

My Lord, 

Tour moft bumble Servants^ 

NORTHUMBERLAND, SALISBURY, 

PEMBROKE and MONT- MIDDLESEX, 
GOMERY, SAY and SELE. 

The COMMISIONERS Ninth Paper^ concerning the 
Propofit ions for the Church. 

Newport, Sept. 25, 1648. 

APapcr^rcfent-' "^/y E humbly defire your Majefty to give 
ed to the King 4 your Royal Afient to the Proportions, 

wSr'tbT" Bills ' ^^ Ordi a ces enfuing,. concerning the 
church. ' Church. 

Firjl, 



of E N G L A N D. 3 

4 That a Bill be patted for the utter abo- An. 24 Car. r. 

* liming and taking away of all ArchbUhops, Bi- . l6 4 8 ' 
4 mops, their Chancellors and Commifiaries, 

4 Deans and Sub-Deans, Deans ar.d Chapters, 
4 Archdeacons, Canons and Prebendaries, and all 
4 Chaunters, Chancellors, Treafures, Sub-Trca- 
4 Hirers, Succentors and Sacrifts, and all Vicars 
4 Choral and Chorifters, old Vicars and new Vi- 
4 CJFS of any Cathedral or Collegiate Church, and 
4 all other their Unxier-Omcers, out of the Church 

* of England and Dominion of Walts^ and out of 
4 the Church of Ireland. And that the feveral Or-. 
4 dinances herewith delivered, the one intituled, An 
4 Ordinance of Parliament for abolijhing of Arch- 
4 b'jfiops and Bijbops within the Kingdom cf England 
4 and Dominion of Wales, and for fettling their Lands 
4 and Pojfejfions upon Trujlees for the Ufe of the Com- 

* mon-wcalth : The other intituled, An Ordinance of 
4 the Lords and Commons ajfembled in Parliament^ for" 
t appointing the Sale of Bi/hops Lands for the Ufe of 
4 the Common-wealth, be confirmed by Act of P*r- 
4 liament. 

4 That the Ordinances herewith delivered, con- 

* cernmg the calling and fitting of the Aflembly of 
-* Divines, be confirmed by Act of Parliament. 

4 That Reformation of Religion, according to 
4 the Covenant, be fettled by Act of Parliament 
4 within the Kingdoms of England and Ireland^ arid 
4 Dominion of Wales^ in fuch Manner as both, 
4 Houfes of Parliament have agreed to, or (hall agree 

* upon, after Confutation had with the Aflembly 

* of Divines. And particularly, 

4 That your Majefty will confirm, by Al of Par- 

* liament, the Directory herewith pfefented for the 

* public Worfhip of God in the Kingdoms of Eng~ 

* land and Ireland^ and Dominion of Wales ; to- 
4 gether wjth the feveral Ordinances herewith alfo 
4 delivered, of the 3d of 'January 1644, and of 
' the 23d of Augujl 1645, concerning the taking 

* away of the Book of Common' Prayer, and efta- 

* bliming and putting in Execution of" tin- laid Di- 

* rciSlory, 

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( That your Majefty will likewife confirm, by 
4 At of Parliament, the Form of Church-Govern-* 
October. * ment herewith prefented to be ufed in the Chur- 
' ches of England and Ireland, and alfo the Articles 
4 of Chriftian Religion herewith delivered, and the 
4 Ordinance herewith prefented, for the better Ob- 

* fervation of the Lord's Day. 

* That your Majefty will be pleafed to fwear and 

* fign the Solemn League and Covenant herewith 

* prefented ; and that Acts of Parliament be paffed 
4 for enjoining the taking thereof by all the Sub- 

* jecls of the Kingdoms of England and Ireland > 

* and that the Ordinances herewith delivered, con- 
' cerning the Manner of taking the fame in both the 

* faid Kingdoms, be confirmed by Acts of Parlia- 

* ment, with fuch Penalties as (hall be agreed upon 
c by both Houfes. 

4 That your Majefly will give your Royal Aflent 

* to the Bill for fupprefiing Innovations in Chur- 
4 ches and Chapels in and about the Worfhip of 
4 God, and for the better Advancement of the 

* preaching of God's Holy Word in all Parts of 

* this Kingdom ; and to the Bill againft enjoying 

* Pluralities of Benefices by Spiritual Perfons and 
4 Non-refidence, which have been formerly deli- 

* vered to your Majefty ; and to an Act to be 

* framed and agreed upon in both Houfes of Par- 

* liement, for the regulating and reforming both 

* Universities, and of the Colleges of Weflminjler^ 
4 Winchejfer^ and Eaton. 

4 And that for the more effectual difabling Je- 

* fuits, Priefts, Papifts, and Popifli Recufants, from 
4 difturbing the State and eluding the Laws j and, 

* for the difcovering and fpeedy Conviction of Po- 

* pifli Recufants, an Oath be eftabliftied by Acl of 

* Parliament to be adminiftered to them j wherein, 
4 they (hall abjure and renounce the Pope's Supre- 

* macy, the Doctrine of Tranfubftantiation, Pur- 

* gatory, worftiiping of the confecrated Hoft, 
4 Crucifixes, Images, and all other Popifh Super- 
4 ftitions and Errors : And refufing the faid Oath, 

* bting tendered in fuch Manner as {hall be ap- 

4 pointed 



^ENGLAND. 5 

* pointed by the faid Aft, to be a fufficient Con- An. 24 Car. I. 

* vision of Popifli Recufants. t <6 * 8 ' , 

* That your Majefty will confent to an Aft or o<ftoba. 
4 Afts of Parliament for the Education of Children 
' of Papifts, by Proteftants, in the Proteftant Reli- 

* gion ; and to an Aft or Afts for the true Levy of 

* the Penalties ae;ainft them, which Penalties to be 

* levied and difpofed in fuch Manner as both Houfes 

* {hall agree on, wherein to be provided that your 

* Majefty (hall have no Lofs. 

' And to an Aft or Afts, whereby the Praftices 
c of Papifts agiinft the State may be prevented, and 
' the Laws againft them duly executed j and a ftric- 
4 ter Courfe taken to prevent the faying or hearing 

' of Mafs in the Court, or any other Part of this 
? Kingdom, or the Kingdom of Ireland. 
[Signd by all the Commijfioners*] 

To this Proportion was annexed a Copy of the 
Solemn League and Covenant, which we have al- 
ready given at the Time of its being fubfcribed 
by the Members of both Houfes, in our Twelfth 
Volume, p. 396. 

The KING'S PROPOSITIONS delivered to the COM- 
MISSIONERS on the i&th of September, 1648, 
which they refitfedto receive, as inconfijlent with then" 
Injlruftions (a). 

CHARLES R. Newport, Sept. 28, 1648. 

T7 1 S Majejiy did ufe many Endeavours for a His M-jjeftyv 
** Perfonal Treaty , which he hoped might have- c 
been obtained at Weftminfter between him and his 01 
two Houfes of Parliament immediately ; yet they ha- 
ving made Choice of this Way, by you their Comtnif- 
feoners, his Majejiy did gladly and cb ear fully accept 
thereof in this Place, as a fit Means to bc>in a Treaty 
for Peace, which might put an End to hi:: own fad 
Condition, and the Miferies of his Kingd ;, .js ; 'for 
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(a) Thrfc are not entered in the LorJs Jcurnah } but we ^ive them 
fcom Sir Edward IValhr't HiJiorUal ColkSitm. 




T<? Parliamentary HISTORY 

Entrance whereunio, bis Majefey bath already ex- 
bis Confent to tic Firjl Proportion* But 
finding that }ou are limited by Inferuclions, which 
yeu have no Warrant to communicate to him ; and 
having Caufe, by your Paper of the "2Cth of this pre- 
feni, to believe that you have no Power to emit or 
alter cry Thing, though he Jhall give you fuch Rea- 
fens as may Jatisfy you fo to do, without tranfmittirg 
the Papers to the two Houfes at far Diflf-nce, where 
lit Majefty's Reafbns, ExpreJJions, and Offers upon 
Debate cannot be fully represented, and from "whence 
your Ar fivers ccnnsi he returned without much Ifafle 
of the Time allotted for the Treaty here : And ha- 
T. :ng in: fly received another Paper concerning the 
Church, containing in itjelf fever al Particulars of, 
great Importanc^ and referring to divers Ordinances^ 
Articles of Rdi^ion^ and other Things^ eleven or 
tii-el-ve in Number, of great Length, and feme of 
than vety new, and never before prtfented to his 
Mfijrj'y \ the due Confederation of many whereof will 
tdh zip much Time, and require his M.ajefiy's Pre- 
Jt.nce ti'/th his two Houfes before a full Refolution 
(;n well be had in Matters cffe high a Confequence : 
To ike end, therefore, that the good fVork noufin Hand 
W.-TV, by God's BleJJings, proceed more j'peedily and 
effectually to a happy Conchfeon, and that his two 
Houfes of Parliament may at preftnt have farther 
Security, and an Earneft of future Satisfaction, his 
Majrjly, upon Confederation had of 'your ~s t makes thefe 
Pr.pofetions following : 

Conci rniag the Gkffrck ; his MajeJIy will confent, 
that the Calling and Sitting of the Jjj'embly of Divinei 
at Wtftminucr, be confirmed for three Tears by Aft 
of Parliament* 

Andii'i'l, by Att of Parliament, confirm, for three 
Tears, the Directory for the public Worfmp of God in 
' the Kingdoms ^/"England and Ireland, and Dominion 
of Wales. 

And will likewife confirm for three Tears, by Aft 
of Parliament, the Form of Church-Government^ 
which you have pre Tented to him to be ufed for the 
Churches of England and Ireland, and Dominion of 

Wales :. 



of E N G LAND. 7 

Wales : Provided thai bis Majcjly and thofe of his An. 24 Car. 
Judgment, or any others who cannot in Confcun^ l6 4 : '- 
jubrnit thereunto, be not in the mean Time obliged to 
comply -with the faid Government or Form of If'orfoip, 
but have free Pratticc of their own Profeff.on : And 
that a free Conciliation and Debate be had with the 
Affembly of Divines at Weflmi after, (twenty of h;s 
Mf'jejly's Nomination being added to them} whereby 
it may be determined by his Afajefty and his two Houfes 
of Parliament, how the faid Church Government and 
Form of public Wor/hip, after the faid Time, may be 
fettled, or fconer, if Differences may be agreed : And 
how alfe Reformation and Religion may be fettled 
within the Kingdoms of England and Ireland, and the 
Dominion of Wales ; and the Articles of Chriflian 
Religion now delivered to him, may in like Manmr be 
then conjidered of and determined, and Care taken for 
the Eafe of tender Confciences. 

And concerning the Bijhops Lands and Revenues^ 
his MajeJJy confedering that, during thefe troublefome 
Times, divers of his Subjects have made Contracts and 
Purchafes, and divers others have dijburj'ed great Sums 
of Money upon Secnrity and Engagement of thofe 
Lands ; his Majejty,for your Satisfaction, will content 
to an Afi or Acls of Parliament, ivhereby legal Ejlates 
for Lives, or for Years, at their Choice, not exceeding 
ninety-nine Tears, /hall be made of thofe Lands, t6wards 
the Satisfaction of the faid Pitrchafers, Contractors, 
and others to whom they are engaged, at the old Rents, 
or feme other moderate Rents, whereby they may receive 



Satisfaftion. 

And in cafe fucb Leafe 
will propound and confent to feme other Way for their 



d in cafe fucb Leafes /hall not fuffice, his 



further Satisfaction. 

Provided that the Property and Inheritance of tlxife 
Lcinds may Jlill remain and continue to the Chunk and 
Churchmen refpeftively, according to the pious Inten* 
tions of the Donors and Founders thereof, and the 
Rents that fliall be referved, to be for their Mainte- 
nance. 

His Majejty will give his Royal AJJ'ent to an Art 
for the bitter Observation cf the Lord's Day, for fup- 

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pr effing of Innovations, in Churches and Chapels, in 
and about the W^orjhip of God, and for the better Ad- 
vancement of the Preaching of God's Holy Word in 
all Parts of this Kingdom ; and to an Afl againjt en- 
joying Pluralities of Benefices by fpiritual Perfons, and 
Non-Refu!ences ; and to an Aft for regulating and re- 
forming both the U?iiverjities, and Colleges of Weft- 
minfter, Winchefter, and Eaton. 

His Majejly will confent to an Aft for the better 
Difcovery crt;d fpeedy Conviction of Popijl) Rccufants, 
as is dc fired in the Proportions. 

And alfo to an ASlfor the Education of the Children 
cf PapiJIs by Protrftants in the Protejlant Religion. 

As alfo to an Aft for the true levying of the Penal- 
ties again/I Papijls, to be levied and dijpofcd in fuch 
Manner as both Houfes Jhall agree en, and as is propofed 
</n his Majejly 's Behalf. 

As alfo to an AR to prevent the Practices of Papifts 
again/I the State, and far putting the Laws in Exe- 
cution, and for ajlriflir Courfe to prevent hearing or 
faying of Mafs, 

But as to the Covenant, his Jllaje/ly is not yet there- 
in fatisf.ed, that he can either fign or fwear it, or 
confent to impofz it on the Consciences, of others^ nor 
doss canceive it proper or ufeful at this Time to be in- 



Touching the Militia ; his Majefy conceives that 
your Propcjiiion demands a far larger Power over the 
Perfons and Ejlates of his Subjects, than hath ever hi- 
therto been warranted by the Laws and Statutes of 
this Realm ; yet confide.ring the prefent Dijlrattions 
require more, and trujling in his two Houfes of Par- 
iiament, that they will make no farther Ufe of the 
Pciuers therein mentioned, after the prefent Di/tempers 
fettled, than Jhall be agreeable to the legal Exercife 
thereof in Times paj}, or juft Necejffity Jhall require : : 
His Majefty will confent to an Aft of Parliament, 
that the Lords and Commons in the Parliament of 
England now ajjembled, or hereafter to be ajjembled^ 
~t>r fuch as they Jhall appoint during the Space of ten 
Years, Jhall arm, train, and difcipline, or caufe to be 
armed, trained^ and disciplined all the Forces of the 

Kingdoms 



of *E N G L A N D. 9 

Kingdoms of England and Ireland, and Dominion of An. 24 Car. I. 

\V ales, the Jfes of Guernfcy and Jerfey, and the t 1>4 _ 8 ' , 

Town of Berwick upon Tweed, already raifed loth oftober. 

fir Sea and Land Service ; arid fiall, from Tir.:e to 

Time, during the faid Space of ten Tears, raife, levy, 

arm, train, difcipline, or caufe to he raifed, levied, 

armed, trained, and difciplincd any other Forces for 

Land and Sea Service in the Kingdoms, Dominion, and 

Places aforefaid, as, in their Judgment, they /hall, from 

'Tune to lime, during the faid Space of ten Tears, 

think jit and appoint ; and that neither the King, his 

Heirs or SucceJJors, nor any other, but fuch as Jhall 

cl by the Authority or Approbation of the faid Lords 

and Commons, foall, during the faid Space of ten 

Tears, exercife any of the Powers aforefaid. 

That Monies be raifed and levied for the Mainte-* 
nance and Ufe of the faid Forces for Land Service, and 
of the Navy and Forces for Sea Service, in fuch Sort, 
and by fuch Ways and Means, as the faid Lords and 
Commons Jhall from Time to Time, during the Space of 
ten Tears, think fit and appoint, and not otherwife. 

fad the faid Lords and Commons, or fuch as they 
Jhall appoint, during the fojd Space of ten Tears, /hall 
have Power, 

Firft, To fupprefs all Forces raifed, or to be raifed, 
without Authority and Confent of the faid Lords and 
Commons, to the Diflurbance of the public Peace of 



the Kingdoms of England rfw/IHand, Dominion of 
Wales, the IJles of Guernfey and Jerfey, and the 
Town of Berwick upon Tweed, or any of them. 

Secondly, To fupprefs any foreign forces who Jhall 
tnvade, or endeavour to invade, the Kingdoms of Eng- 
land and Ireland, Dominion of Wales, the IJles of 
Guernfey and Jerfey, and the Town cf Berwick upon 
Tweed, or any of them. 

And that after the Expiration of the faid ten Tears, 
y.either the King, his Heirs or SucceJJors, or any Per- 
fan or Perjons, by Colour or Pretence of any Commif- 
fion, Poiver, Deputation, or Authority to be d- rived 
from the King, his Heirs or SucceJJors^ or any of them^ 
Jhall, without the Confent of the faid Lords and Com- 
mons^ raiffj arm, train, dijcip/ine t employ, order, 



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An. 24 Car. T- manage, disband, or difpofe, any of the Forces by Sen tf' 
l6 4^ ^ Land of the Kingdoms of England and Ireland, the 
"~~~^ Dominion of Wales, Jjles of Gucmfcy <7rfjerfcy 
and the Town of Berwick upon Tweed ; nor exercif* 
avy of the. faid Powers or Authorities herein before- 
nientloned and expreffed to be, during the faid Space of 
ten Years, in the faid Lords and Commons ; nor dt 
any Aft or Thing concerning the Execution of the fmd 
Powers and Authorities, or any of them, without the 
Cenfent of the faid Lords and Commons firjl had and. 
obtained. 

And with a Provifo for faving the ordinary legal 
Power of Officers of Jujiice, not being Military Of- 
ficers, as is fet down in your Proportions. 

And with a Declaration, That if any Perfons Jhall 
be gathered and affembled together in warlike Manner, 
cr othenvifey to the Number of thirty Perfons, and Jhail 
not forthwith difperfe themf elves, being required there- 
to by the faid Lords and Commons, or Command from 
them, or any by them efpecially authorized to that Pur- 
fofe ; then fuch Perfon or Perfons, not fo difperfing 
themfelves, Jhall be guilty, and incur the Pains of High 
Treafon ; being firjl declared guilty of fuch Offence by 
the faid Lords and Commons, any Commijjion under the 
Great Seal, or other Warrant to the contrary notwith- 

JJanding ; and he or they, that Jhall fo offend herein, 
to be incapable of any Pardon from his Majefty, his 
Heirs, or Succeffon. 

And likewife that it be provided, That the City of 
London Jhall have and enjoy all their Rights, Liber- 
ties, &c. in raifing and employing the Forces of that 
City in fuch Sort as is mentioned in the faid Propoji- 
tions. 

IVith thefe Proportions following to be infertedin the 

faid An : 

I. That none be compelled to ferve in the War a- 
gainjl their Wills, but in cafe of coming in of Jf range 
Enemies, 

II. And that the Powers above-mentioned, as con- 
cerning the Land Forces, (other than for Keeping-up 
and Maintenance of Forts and Garrifons y and for the 

Keeping"- 



gf ENGLAND. 11 

Keeping- ufa Maintaining, and Pay of this prefent An. 24 Car. I. 

>my, ^ *%'" tfJ it foall be thought fit by both Hnfis ^ ^j^_ f 

of Parliament] be exercifed to no other Purpsfes then cooler. 
for fupp^rtjjfag of Forces raifed, or to be rmjcd, with- 
out Authority and Confent of the f aid Lords and Com- 
mons as aforcfaid, or for fupprej/ing of any foreign 
F'.ms which Ibfill invade, or endeavour to invade, tht 
Kingdsms, Dominion, and Places aforcfaid. 

III. And that -the Monies be raifed by general equd 
Taxations ; faying that Tonnage and Poundage, and 
fuch Irr.pfj/rs as have been applied to the Navy, may be 
'rcif'd fis hath b?\n ujual. 

IV. And that all Patents, Convnijjions and other 
Afis concerning the Premises, be made and afted, in his 
Majejh's Name, by Warrant fignified by the "Lords 
'and \^cmm:m:, or fuch others as they fnali authorize for 
that Purpofe. If it fl)dl be more fatisfafiory to hh 
tiuo Houjes to have the Militia, and Powers thereupon 
defending, during the whole Time of his Majejly*s 
Reign, rather than for the Space of ten Tears, hif 
Majefiy therein gives them the Election. 

Touching Ireland ; his Majejly having in the two 
preceding Proportions given his Confent concerning the 
Church, and the Militia there,, in all Things as in Eng- 
land ; as to all other Mqters relating to that Kingdom* 
after Advice ivith his tzvo Houjes, he will leave it to 
their Determination, and give- his Confent accordingly 
'as is herein after expreffed. 

Touching public Debts ; his Majejly will give his 
Confeni to fuch an Aft for raifing Monies, by general 
and equal Taxations, for the Payment and Satisfying 
sf the Arrears of the Army, and public Debts and 
Engagements of the Kingdom, as {hall be agreed on by 
loth Houfis of Parliament, and fljall be audited and 
fifcertnined by them, or fuch Perfons as they /hall ap- 
point, within the Space of twelve Months after the 
^ajjing of an Adi for the fame. 

His Majefty will confent to an Att that, during ths 
faid Space of ten lean, the Lord-Chancellor or Lord- 
Keeper, Commifjioners of the Great Seal or Trcafury, 
Lord-Warden of the Cinque Ports t Chancellor of the 

Exchequer 



1 2 T/je Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 14 Car. I. Exchequer and Duchy, Secretaries of State, Majler 
l6 4 8 ' of the Roils, "Judges of both Benches, and Barons of 
Oftob r ^ c Exchequer of the Kingdom of England, be nomi- 
nated^ by both Honfes of the Parliament of England, 
to continue, Quam diu fe bene geflerint ; and in the 
Intervals of Parliament, by fuch others as they Jhall 
authorize for that Purpcfe. 

His Majefy will confcnt that the Militia of the 
City of London and Liberties thereof, during the Space 
of ten Yearn, may be rn tfre Ordering and Government 
of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons in the 
Common Council ajfembled, or juch ai tbsy /hall, from 
"Time, appoint, (whereof the Lord Mayor and Sheriff's 
for the Time being to be three) to be employed and di- 
re fled, from Time to Time, during the f aid Space of 
ten Years, in fuch Manner as jhall be agreed on and 
appointed by both Houfes of Parliament ; and that no 
Citizen of the City of London, nor any Forces of the 
faid City, Jhall be drawn forth, or compelled to go out 
of the faid City or Liberties thereof, for Military Ser- 
vice, without their own free Conjent. 

That an Aft be pajjedfor the granting and confirm- 
ing the Charters, Cuftoms, Liberties, and Franchifes 
of the City of London, notwith/landing any Nonufer, 
Mifufer, or Abufer ; and that, during the faid ten 
Years, the Tower of London may be in the Govern- 
ment of the City of London ; and the chief Officer 
and Governor thereof, from Time ta Time, during the 
faid Space, be nominated and removeable by the Com- 
mon Council, as are dejired in your Proportions. 

His Majejly having thus far exprejfed his Confent 
fcr the prefent Satisfaction and Security of his two 
Houfes of Parliament, and thofe that have adhered 
unto them, touching your four firjl Propofttions, and 
other the Particulars before fpecified : As to all the reft 
tf your Propojitions delivered to him at Hampton- 
Court, (not referring to thofe Heads) and to that of 
the Court of Wards ftnce delivered, as alfo to the 
remaining Proportions concerning Ireland, his Majejly 
defires only, when he J}>all came to Weftminfter, per- 
fonally to advife with his two Houfes, and to deliver 
his Opinion and the Reafons of it ; which being done, 



^ ENGLAND. 

be will have the whole Matter of tbofe remaining Pr6~ 
pofitions to the Determination of his two Houfes^ which 
Jhall prevail with him for his Confent accordingly. 

And his MajeJJy doth^ for his own Particular^ only 
propofe^ That he may have Liberty to repair forthwith 
to Weftminfter, and be rejlored to a Condition of ab- 
folute Freedom and Safety, (a Thing which he Jhall 
never deny to any of 'his Subjects) and to the Poff'ejfton 
of his Lands and Revenues ; and that an Att of Obli- 
vion and Indemnity may pafs, to extend to all Perfoxs 
for all Matters relating to the late unhappy Diffe- 
rences \ which being agreed by his two Houfes of Par- 
liament^ his Majejly will be ready to make thefe his 
ConceJJions binding^ by giving them the Force of Laws 
by his Royal AJJent. 

The COMMISSIONERS TENTH PAPER, cccafioned by 
the foregoing : This the King refufed to accept of (e ). 

Neivport, Sept. 29, 1648. 
T T PON the Paper delivered by your 
' \*J the 28th of September, we acquainted 
Majefty that we had not refolved whether we 

* might retain that Paper or not ; and fiace, upon 
' Perufal and Confideration thereof, and of our 

* Commiflion and Inftru&ions, we find that albeit 

* your Majefty will be pleafed to ftyle them your 

* Propofitions, yet they are as Anfwers to the four 

* Propofitions firft to be treated on, and to divers 
' of the reft, and are fo exprefled in your Majefty's 
' Paper in thefe Words,' His Majejly having thus 

* far exprejjed his Confent for the prefent Satisfac- 
' tion and Security of his two Houfes of Parliament t 
' and thofe that have adhered to them^ touching the 

* four firft Propofitions^ and in other Parts of your 
6 Paper ; and therefore being, by our Inftru&ions, 
' to proceed in the firft Place upon the four Propo- 
' fitions in Order, and upon the reft as they are 
' placed, as hath been declared already to your 
' Majefty by our Paper of the i8th of this Inftant; 

and 

(<) This is taken from the LtrJi Journals, afl-i is not in Sir Ed> 
ward Walkers CeUe&ons. 




Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 34 Car. 1. 2 n i finding that you have given Anfwers to the 

t * 6 4- s - j < r ft f our proportions, and divers of the reft to- 

OSobt- ' gether, without admitting Debate up' n the Pro- 

c petitions fevera'ly, by which we fhould have en- 

* deavoured to have given your Majefty Satisfac- 
' tion in the feveral Proportions as they had been 
' treated on, we humbly return herewith your Ma- 
' jefty't; Paper, and dcfire your AnlVer to the Paper 

* delivered the 2cth of th s Inftant, concerning the 
' Church, whereunto your Majefty hath given no 

* full Anfwer in your Paper.' 

[Sign'd by all the Cotnmijjioncrs.] 

The KING'S Firft Paper in Tuftification of his Pro- 
pofitions refuf-jd by the Comiiaulicners (f). 

Newport, Sept. 29, 1648. 
CHARLES R. 

TTl S Majefty did receive the Votes of both Houfes 
" of Parliament of the third of Auguft lajl % 
whereby they refolded to treat perjonally with him, 
by Comm'iffiMurs, upon the Proportions prefented at 
Hampton-Court, &c. and upon fuch Proportions as 
jbottld be offered by his Majefty, and upon fuch other 
Proportions as fh-iuld be propounded either by his Ma- 
jefty or both Hoiifes of Parliament : Which Liberty 
for his Majefty to make Prcpofttions was^ amongjl 
others^ a chief Motive that Induced him to accept the 
Treaty In this Place^ and In this Manner, as appears 
by his Majefty $ Anj^ver to thofe Votes, dated the io*/j 
ff Auguft. 

And by your Comrtilfjlon, which you del'wcred to 
Inm In the Beginning of the Treaty, you are autho- 
rized to treat upyn thofe Proportions formerly pre~ 
fented, and fuch other Propofinons as jhall be offered 
either by his A4ajrfty or both Houfes of Parliament ; 
ivhereby it clearly appears in his Majefty, you are 
both warranted and enjoined to receive juch Prop's- 
Jit ions as Jhall at any Time be tendered by him. 
Whereupon his Majefty Tefterday did put in a Pro- 



(f) This is in Sir Edward ff'aKtr't Collcffiofit, and not in 
Lirdt journals. 




of ENGLAND. 

p&fition, which was read and delivered to you, con- 

cerning his coming to Weftminfter, containing Jc- 

veral Motives to induce his tvjo Houfss to confetti oclober. 

thereunto. 

And although yui are directed by your InftruSlions 
as to the Order of the Treaty upon your Proportions, 
yet thofe Inftruftions cannot be contrary to the Fetes 
which were fent to his Majejly or to your Commif- 
few, which were the Grounds and Foundation of this 
Treaty , nor can take from him the Liberty of making 
his Proportions at any "Time ; which as it is ejjential 
to all free Treaties to make mutual Proportions, fo, 
particularly, is well ivarranted by the faid Votes and 
CommiJJion. And although his Majejly' s Paper con- 
tains in it divers Conjcnts and Agreements, for the 
Satisfaction and Security of his tivo Houfes, appli- 
cable to the Four Proportions, which you are by your 
Inftruftiom directed firjl to treat upon, and to other 
Particulars of your Proportions, yet are- not thofe Con- 
fents and Agreements inferted to any other End than as 
necejjary Grounds and Inducements io his two Houfes 
to confent to. that Propo/ition for his Maje/ly's Co- 
ming to \Veftminfter ; ivhich, of itfelf, is but, one 
intire Proportion, and induced and fupported by 
thofe preceding Motives and Confents without which 
neither his Majejly nor any other reafonable Man 
could expetl that a bare Props/if ion could be accept- 
able to his tvjo Houfes, or produce, that Effett as is 
defired. And his Majejly cannot imagine what In- 
ducements or Motives were pojjible for him to offer 
to his two Houfes, for the Grounds of any Propor- 
tion, but that they muff, in feme Sort, nccejjarily 
contain ir relate to the Matter of the Houfes Pro- 
pofition' 

Hi> Majejly therefore dejires that you would 
l t 



and effeftually tranfmit the faid Proportion, 
read and delivered Yejlerday, to his two Houfes of 
Parliament at Weftmi after, whom his Majejly is 
co nr dent will be fully fatisfied therewith. And if 
you foall doubt of any the Matters contained in his 
Alajejly's Paper, and defer e any thing to be explained 
by Treaty and Debate, his Majejly is willing there- 
5 unto : 



1 6 'The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 44 Car. I. unto : As likewise if you Jhall defir.e any farther Sectt- 
1648 rity than the Confents already given by his Majejlyfof 
^ e P er f ormance thereof, his Majefiy is willing, and 
will be ready to treat and debate thereupon, and to give 
you full Satisfaction here for fuch Performar.ee on his 
Part, at his Repair to Weftminfter. 

The KING'S Second Paper, on the fame Subject, 
refufed alfo by the Commiflioners (g). 

CHARLES R. New P ort Se P f - 2 9> 1648. 
to the Votes of the two Houfes, ana' your 
own Commijjion, one of the ejfential Parts of the 
Treaty is for his Majejly to deliver in Proportions of his 
civn, and accordingly he delivered one to you Tejierday ; 
and therefore he requires you either to treat upon the 
fame, or to tranfmit it to the two Houfes of Parlia- 
ment at Weftminfter ; the doing of which Jhall be fo 
far from giving any Interruption to the Treaty here, 
which was never intended by his Majejly, as his Afa- 
jejly is very willing (you accepting and treating upon, 
or tranfmitting, the faid Proportion to the two Houfes) 
to proceed in your own Order, to treat upon fuch Pro- 
psjitions as you have or ft)all prefent unto him. 

The COMMISSIONERS Paper prefented to the King on 
their refnfmg the two former. 

Newport, Sept. 29, 1648. 

\\7 E humbly deiire your Majefty's Anfwer to 
' W our Paper concerning the Church, deli- 
' vered unto your Majefty the 2fth of this Inftant 
September. 

[Sign'd by all the CommiJJioners.'] 

The fame Day alfo, Oft. 2, the following Let- 
ter from the King was prefented to the Houfe of 
Lords by Capt. Titus, who, by his Majefty's Com- 
mand, was ordered to ftay for an Anfwer. In- 
clofed in this Letter were the King's own Propofi- 

tions, 

(g) This is in Sir Edward Walker's Cvfotfifrj, and ftot in the. 

ftOrds Journals, ' 



^ENGLAND. 17 

trons, a Copy whereof we have already given when An - *4 Car. I, 
offered to the Commiflioners by his Majefty. The t ] ^' M 
Letter was addrefs'd thus : October. 

To the S P E A K E R of the Houfe of P E E R s pro 
Tcmpore, to be communicated to the LORDS 
and COMMONS in the Parliament of England 
at 



CHARLES R. New P ort > Se P" 2 9> 



'JJiT' 
** 



'Hereas both our Houfes of Parliament, by their A Letter from 
Votes of the third of Auguft lajl, refolved to the King to the 
treat personally with us upon the Proportions prefent- ^ofin "Swa 
ed at Hampton-Court, and upon fuch Propositions propofitions, 
as we foould offer ; and the CommiJJioners^ upon the v ' hict * heir 
opening of this Treaty, acquainted us with their 
CommiJJion from both Houfes, which authorized accept. 
them accordingly : Hereupon we framed this inclofed 
Proportion, and Yeflerday, being the 2.Stb of this 
In/lant, delivered the fame to your CommiJJioners 
here ; wherein vje have infertcd divers Concejffions 
and Agreements, thereby the better to induce our two 
Houfes of Parliament to agree to this our Propofi~ 
tion j but finding the CommiJJiQners of both Houfes 
here, upon feveral Debates, alledge that they are 
rejlrained, by their Injiruflions, from tranfmitting 
the fame to our two Houfes of Parliament ; we ac- 
quainted them that we would take Notice to you of 
bow great a Prejudice it was to us, that their In- 
Jlruttiom were fo limitted : And therefore we have- 
thought Jit to fend up to you a Transcript of that 
Propofition, defiring the fame may be communicated 
to our two Houfes of Parliament ; hoping that the 
Largenefs of thefe Concejjions will prevail with them 
to lay hold on this Way, which to us feerns the mojl 
fpe&ly Courfc of fettling the Dijlrattions of thefe 
Kingdoms ; that fo, upon thefe Conditions, we may re- 
pair to our two Houfes at Weftminftcr, where we 
intend to perform and make good all we have cm* 
ited unto. 
VOL. XVIIL B The 




The Parliamentary HISTORY 

The Lords having read this Letter and the King's- 
Propofitions, ordered them to be fcnt to the Com- 
mons, with a Defire, that when that Houfe had 
read them, they would return back the Originals ; 
their Lordfhips, being unwilling to delay a Bufi- 
fmefs of fuch Importance, not having taken Co- 
pies thereof. 

After reading thefe Papers in the Houfe of Com- 
mons, a very warm Debate enfued, the Account 
of which is thus given by a Journalift of thefe 
Times (d}. 

Defa'e thereup- Mr. Life begun with urging, c That if the 
on nit-he Houfe 7'reaty were now broken off, it would be the 
;ons ' King's own Fault, fmce he had quitted the cue 
Courfe of it ; and, inftead of debating and pafling 
the Proportion fent him by the Parliament, had 
endeavoured to furprife the Houfes with devifed 
Proportions of his own ; which they did not ex- 
peel: from him, but rather that he mould give his 
AfTent, or Denial, to each, as they lay in Order, 
or as they fhould be prefented unto him by their 
Commiflioners, to whom they had referred the 
due managing of this Treaty : And therefore, 
fmce they had refufed to receive the King's Propo- 
fi.ions, I fuppofe, faid he, it becomes us likewife 
to lay them afide ; and not only fo, but to give fur- 
ther Inftrii&ions to our Commiflioners, that if the 
King do not proceed with them upon each Propo- 
fition, as before, they mould declare againft any 
further P-rogrefs in the Treaty.' 

As to the Particular about Church-Government, 
Mr. Knightley faid, * That if,, after the Expiration 
of the three Years, they mould admit of twenty 
Divines, of his Majefty's Nomination, to join 
with the Affembly for the further Settlement of 
the Church, it was likely that the Epifcopal 
Men, inftead of advifing the Settlement of the 
Church, would rather unfettle it by their Dif- 
putes : and fo, perhaps, introduce a new Quarrel 
about it,' 

As 

(d) Mcrcuriui Pragmaticus, No. 28. 



^ENGLAND. 19 

As concerning Biihops Lands, Mr. Harvey An - 24 Car ' r 

alledgcd, c That except Epifcopacy were pull'd up , '_ J , 

Root and Branch, fo that no Hopes were left of ever o<ftober. 
rcfloring it within this Kingdom, the Purchafcrs 
and Contra&ers would be left without any Afiu- 
rance of enjoying their Purchafes ; feeing that Claufe 
for the Return of thofe L?.r.ds to the Church, af- 
ter fo many Years, may be made Ufe of in far lefs 
Time than is there mentioned, to defeat the Pur- 
chafers ; efpecially if the Epifcopal Party fliould 
ever get Ground again in the Nation : Whereas, 
if the Property and Inheritance of thofe Lands be 
fettled by Adi of Parliament upon them and their 
Heirs for ever, then they might be as fure of thefe 
as of their other Poffeffions ; and it would be fuch 
an Encouragement to Men to lay out their Mo- 
ney, that the State might fell them off much the 
fooner, and at better Rates.' This Motion being 
feconded by Alderman Penmngton of London, Mr. 
Blackljion and others, a Member who apprehend- 
ed this Difpute about Bifhops and their Lands to 
be fet on Foot by the Affembly of Divines, flood 
up and faid, ' Mr. Speaker, I perceive thefe Gen- 
tlemen are yery exceptious in the Matter of 
Church-Government, and conceive the King doth 
not offer fo fully and fairly touching this Particu- 
lar as he ought to do. Whatfoever their Cor- 
ccit is of his Majefty in that RefpecSt, I am fure 
he offers fair in one Particular, for reprefling the 
Covetoufnefs of our Affembly of Divines, and 
the well regulating of the Church, by offering 
to pafs an Act againft Pluralites of Benefices 
by Spiritual Perfons, and Non-refidency. 1 coukl 
v.ifh ibme would cry him up as much for this, as 
they cry him down for other Things ; for it is a 
Shame, and reflecis much upon the Honour of 
the Houfe, that we are nor more forward in re- 
moving of this Inconveniency : And more Shame 
is it for the Synod, that they being the Men which 
condemned ?nd cried out againft the Pluralities of 
the Epifcopal Clergy, fhould enjoy far more than 
the corrupteft of the Bimops and their Chaplains 
B 2 did 




Parliamentary HISTORY 

did ever allow of ; divers of them at this Time pbf- 
fefiing two, or three, yea, and four Livings a-piece, 
which they come not at once in a Twelvemonth, 
befides thofe which are not vifible, wherein they 
have placed their Deputies of Journeymen, with 
whom they fhare in the Profits : And therefore my 
humble Motion is, Mr. Speaker, that our Com- 
miflioners be ordered to infift earneltly for hi* 
Majefty's fpeedy Aflent unto an Aft for the taking 
away this ingrofling of Benefices.' Upon this fe- 
veral Members calling out for the Gentleman to 
name Particulars, and not thus to fcandalize 
the Affembly in general Terms, he anfwered, 
' That if the Houfe pleafed to command him, he 
could inftance Particulars enough, and prove them 
too ;' which put an End to the Bufmefs. 

Then Sir John Evelyn, of Wilts* defired to fpeak 
one Word to the Conclufion of his Majefty's Let- 
ter, wherein he defircd to come to Weftminfier in 
abfolute Freedom, and be reftored to his Revenues, 
promifing to leave other Matters to the Determi- 
nation of the Houfes, and pafs thefe Concefiions 
into Acts; c I conceive, faid he, if we fhould yield 
to this, it would extremely difcontent our Friends 
on all Sides, and give Encouragement to Malig- 
nanfs and Delinquents : The Army and Well- 
affected abroad would think very ftrangely that the 
King fhould be at Liberty, and no further Secu- 
rity given for their Liberties, but only his bare 
Word ; which, in cafe thefe Conceffions were fa- 
tisfactory, as we fee they are not, would be the 
moft unreafonable and destructive Courfe to the 
Hopes and Expectations of the Godly that can be 
imagined : And therefore I humbly conceive, that 
if the King's Offers were fo large as we defire, yet 
in no Cafe ought we to yield that he fhould come 
hither till they are all pafs'd into Acts.' 

Sir Henry Mildmay clofed the Debate with mo- 
ving the Houfe to declare againft the Propofitions 
from the King without Delay.' And accordingly 
we find by the Commons Journals, that the Houfe 
refolved, that they approved of the Conduct of their 

Com- 




^ENGLAND. 

Commiflioners in refufing to receive the King's An 
Propofitions, and declared the Unfatisfa&orinefs 
thereof. They alfo ordered the Thanks of the 
Houfe to be returned them, and a Letter to be 
prepared accordingly by Sir John Evelyn and Mr. Bo 
Knigbtley, to befigned by their Speaker. ^ This be-J 
ing fent up to the Lords, they gave their Concur- 
rence, and it was fent away to the Commiflioners, 
Tign'd by the Speakers of both Houfes, as follows : 

My Lords and Gentlemen, 

* T H E Houfes of Parliament, upon reading ofA n 

_ ... f a i ^ i their Commifli- 

* 1 your Letter of the 291*1 of September, with oners conduft. 

* the Papers therein contained, and in Confideration 

* thereof, have fully approved your Proceeding?? 

* therein, in refufing the Paper delivered unto you 
by the King which they have fince received, it 
' being contrary to your Inftructions, and no way 

* fatisfaclory ; and the Houfes have commanded us 
' to return you their Thanks for your careful and 
4 prudent managing of that Bufmefs ; and do dcfire 

* that you continue ftill in proceeding, according 

* to your Inftru&ions, to prefs the King for his 
' Anfwer to the Propofitions, as you arc by them 
6 directed j the Houfes being refolvcd to proceed 

* that Way, and not otherwife ; and that you do 

* impart unto his Majefty thefe Refolurions and Di- 

* reciions. This being all we have in Command, 
fi we remain 

TCour affectionate Friends and Servants, 

MANCHESTER, 
Speaker of the Koufe of Peers. 

WILL. LENTHALL, 

Speaker of the Commons Houfe 
in Parliament. 

Oft. 4. Mr. Scawen prefented to the Houfe of Debate a Let 
Commons a Letter from the Lord-General Fair- JT^ " 1 
fax, dated at St. Albans, Qftober 2, reprefenting p^y^lt of th? 
the great Complaints made to him touching free Amurs I(IK- tf 
Qiiartcr, and deftring fonie Remedy, by providing 1 " 8 Arm yj 
B 3 timely 



22 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

. 24 Car. I. timely and conftant Pay for the Army. Upon 
1648. t his Occafion many Members reprefented, ' What 
a Shame it was, that fo gallant an Army fhould be 
fo ill rewarded, as not to be allowed an ordinary 
Subfiftance; and what a Scandal it was to the 
Houfe to have fuch Clamours and Outcries againft 
them and the Army all over the Kingdom, by 
reafon of free Quarter, which might have been 
prevented, if the AfTeffments had been duly and 
equa'ly paid.' This was further urg'd by Mr. 
Ajbe and Mr. Venn, who faid, ' That none were 
more faulty that Way than the Citizens of Lon- 
don ^ they being in Arrear to the Army many thou- 
fand Pounds.' Mr. Harvey added, ' That to his 
Knowledge this was moft true ; and tho' at pre- 
fent he could not call to Mind the certain Sum, 
yet, by To-morrow he would give the Houfe a 
further Account of it.' Accordingly, 

The next Day, Mr. Harvey reported, That the 
Arrears due from the City of London to the Army 
amounted to 8o,ooo/. ' This, Mr. Thomas Cha- 
loner faid was an Argument of the City's high In- 
gratitude to the Army for all the famous and 
good Services dene to them and to the Kingdom; 
and alfo of the great Modefty and good Temper 
of th- Army ; who, after fo many Affronts and 
Provocations given them by the City, before and 
in the Bufmefs of Colcbefler^ had neverthelefs 
withdrawn themfelves with fo much Patience, and 
teen content fo long without a Farthing of their 
Arrears :' And therefore he prefled earneftly that 
fome fpeedy Courfe might be taken for the Satis- 
faction of the Soldiery. Hereupon the Commons 
fent a Meflage to the Lords defiring them to ha- 
ften the Ordinance then depending in their Houfe, 
for better Maintenance of the Army and prevent- 
ing free Quarter. They alfo ordered a Committee 
to wait upon the Lord-General Fairfax at St. Al- 
bans, and take Notice of his good Services this Sum- 
mer; to congratulate his great Succefs therein; to 
return him their Thanks for his valiant Conduct ; 
and co acquaint him what the Houfe had done in 

confe- 



^ENGLAND. 23 

Confequence of his Letter. Tlic-y likewife ordered An - 33Cai '- 
a n Ordinance to be prepared for fettling Lands to 
the Value of 4OCO/. per Annum on him and his 
ILirs, in puriuanee of a former Vote palled for that 
Purpofe. 

051. 5. A Motion being made for raifing a Win- OnaMorionfor 
ter Guard at Sea, Mr. Gourd dehred this might on j C ring the 
not be done till the Houfes were more fure of the LoH. Admiral 
Lord-Admiral's Affections ; For, laid, he, Mr. J^Vlm- 
Speak r, it is not only whifpered among the Well- <j tni 
affected, but openly boafted by the Cavaliers, that 
my Lord Admiral might have done better Service 
again ft the Prince, but that he favoured him, by 
letting him lie in quiet till the Dutch had both 
monied and victualled all the revolted Ships, fo as 
to be in a Condition to put forth to Sea ao,ain when 
they pleafe ; to the Difturbance of Traffick, and 
to the Vexation of the Kingdom ; and therefore, 
in my Opinion, it would be well if the Lord- Ad- 
miral were fent for home, to give the Houfe Sa- 
tisfaction concerning his Conduct in this Buil- 
nefs. The Intent of this Motion being to re- 
move the Earl of Warwick, whom the Indepen- 
dents apprehended to be, fecretly, well-affected to 
a Peace with the King, and thereby make Way 
for Vice-Admiral Rainjborough to command the 
Parliament's Fleet ; Sir Henry Mildmay^ after fome 
Commendations of his Lordfhip, to prevent Sufpi r 
cion of the real Defign of Mr. Gourdon's Motion, 
faid, ' Though he conceived no Perfon more fit 
than the Earl of Wanvick for that Employment, 
nor in whom the Houfe might repofe more Con- 
fidence; neverthelefs he fuppofed it might be very 
convenient now, iince the Prince was faid to be 
ready for putting to Sea, to fend for the Lord- 
Admiral to come up and advice with them what 
Courfe was beft to be taken for Advancement of 
the Sea Service.' In Anfvver to this another Mem- 
ber flood up and faid, ' Mr. Speaker, if the Prince 
be fo ready to fet forth to S?u as thefe Gentlemen 
B 4 aflcrt, 




The Parliamentary HISTORY 

.aflert, I conceive there is far more Reafon the 
Lord-Admiral fhould remain on Ship-board, than 
venture thus far afliore, confidering what Incon- 
venience may happen to the Navy, by the Abfence 
of a Commander in Chief, in fo ticlclifh a Time ; 
efpecially feeing that Matter of Advice from the 
Houfe may be as well communicated to him by 
way of Inftru&ions, as if he were prefent. This 
Argument had fo great a Weight, that the Motion 
for ordering the Lord-Admiral to come up to 
London was laid afide ; and the Houfe refolved 
That a Winter-Guard of 2785 Men be forthwith 
fitted out for Sea Service, with all neceflary Provi- 
fions. 

Andalfou on a ^' ^' ^ Letter from Lord Goring (dated IVind- 
Letter from the for-CaJlle^ Off. 3) was read in the Houfe of Corn- 
Lord Goring, mons, fignifying that he had received Notice of an 
JJ^j^tV Impeachment of High Treafon being then depend- 
gainft him. ing againft him in that Houfe ; whereas they could 
not but be fenfible of the Quarter given by the 
Lord-General Fairfax to the Lord Capel andhim- 
felf, as mentioned in his Excellency's Letter of 
the 2gth of Auguft laft. 

A Debate arifmg upon this Occafion, a Mo- 
tion was made, That the Impeachment might be 
forthwith carried up to the Houfe of Lords, with a 
Defire that their Lordfhips would appoint a fpeedy 
Day for the Trial of the Lord Goring. In Oppo- 
fition to this many Members urg'd, * How incon- 
venient fo fevere a Ccurfe would be in the very 
Inftant of a Treaty, the Intent whereof was to 
bury the Remembrance of ail former Differences ; 
befides, it would feem the more flrange, after fo long 
Quarter for Life given by the Lord Fairfax ; and 
therefore they mov'd for putting off this Bufmefs at 
prefent ; and that, in the mean Time, a Letter 
might be fent to that General, defiring him to ex- 
plain that PafTige in his Letter wherein he fig- 
nified to the Houfe, upon the Surrender of Col- 
chefler^ That be had given Quarter for L'.Je to the 

Lards 



a/* ENGLAND. 25 

^ Goring, Capel, and others, but referred them An< -4- Car - ' 

to the Mercy of thf Parliament.' This laft Mo- , 

tion was agreed to, and a Committee appointed to 
draw up a Letter to be fent to the Lord Fairfax 
accordingly. 

0<f7. 7. The following Letter from Lieutenant- 
General Cromwell, was read in the Houfe of Com- 
-nions, addrefs'd to their Speaker (a). 

SIR, Berwick, Off. 2, 1648. 

* T Have formerly reprefented to the Committee General Crom- 
c A at Derby-Houfi, how far I have profecuted * el | """ 

* your Bufmefs in relation to the Commands I did i ngs ; Scotland, 
' receive from them ; to wit, That I having fent a and of the Sur - 

* Party of Horfe with a Summons to. Berwick, and a ^"'k^ Ca^ifle 

* Letter to the Committee of Eftatcs, which I fup- to the Engliflu 

* pofed did confift ot the Earl of Lanerk and his 

* Participates ; and a Letter of Kindnefs and Af- 
' fedlion to the Marquis of Argyle, and the well- 
' afFe&ed Party in Arms at Edinburgh, with Cre- 

* dence to Colonel Bright and Mr. William Rowe, 
' Scoutmafter of the Army, to let them know up- 

* on what Grounds, and with what Intentions we 

* came into their Kingdom ; and how that, in the 

* mean Time, the Marquis of Argyle and the reft 
' at Edinburgh, had fent Sir Andreiv Can; Laird of 

* Gramheats, and Major Strachan to me, with a 

* Letter and Paper of Inftru&ions, expreffing their 
' good Affection to the Kingdom of England, and 

* difclaiming the late Engagement ; together with 

* my Anfwcr to the faid Letters and Papers, Dupli- 
' cates of all which I fent to the Committee at 
' Deriy-Houfe, and therefore forbear to trouble yoti 
' with the Things themfelves (b). 

* I think it now fit to give you an Account what 
' further Progrefs hath been made in your Bufmefs : 
' The two Armies being drawn up, the one under 

Lanerk 

(a) From the Original Edition, printed by Edward Ha/bands, by 
Order of the Houfe of Commons, QElobtr 10, 1648. 

(b) All thefe may be found in our SeventecnUi Volume, p. 4Si> 




Parliamentary HISTORY 

' Lanerk and Monro at Stirling) and the other 
4 under the Earl of Leven and Lieutenant-General 
' LeJIey, betwixt that and Edinburgh, the Heads of 
4 the two Armies being upon Treaties concerning 
' their .own Affairs ; and I having given, as I hop'd, 
' fufHcient Satisfaction concerning the Juftice of 

* your Caufe, and the Clearness of my Intentions 
' in entering that Kingdom, did (on Tburfday the 
' 2 1 ft of September, and two Days before, the 

* Tweed being fordable) march over that River at 

* Norbam, into Scotland, with four Regiments of 

* Horfe, and fome Dragoons, and fix Regiments 
' of Foot, and there quartered, my Head-Quarters 

* being at the Lord Mordington 1 s Houfe ; where, 
c hearing that the Marquis of Argyle^ the Lord 
c Elcbo, and fome others were coming to me from 
' the Committee of Eftates aflembled at Edinburgh, 
< I went, on Friday the 22d of September, fome 
e Part of the Way to wait upon his Lordfhip ; 
e who when he was come to his Quarters, de- 
c livered me a Letter of which this inclofed is a 

* Copy, figned by the Lord Chancellor, by War- 
e rant of the Committee of Eftates and fome 

* Time was fpent in giving and receiving mutual 

* Satisfaction concerning each other's Integrity and 
4 Clearnefs, wherein I muft be bold to teftify for 

* that noble Lord the Marquis, the Lord Elcbo, 
' and the other Gentlemen with him, that I have 

* found nothing in them but what becomes Chri- 

* ftians and Men of Honour. 

* The next Day it was refolved, That the Com- 
e mand of the Committee of Eftates to the Gover- 

* nor of Berwick for rendering the Town, fhould 

* be fent to him by the Lord Elcbo and Col. Scot, 

* which accordingly was done ; but he, pretend- 

* ing that he had not received the Command of 
' that Place from thofe Hands that now demanded 

* it of him, defired Liberty to fend to the Earl of 
8 Lanerk, engaging himfelf then to give his pofitive 

* Anfwer, and intimating it fhould be fatisfa&ory. 

' Whilft thefe Things were in tranfa&ing, I 
' ordered Major-General Lambert to march to-r 

* wards 



gf ENGLAND. 27 

6 wards Edinburgh, with fix Regiments of Horfe, A*. ^ r - 

* and a Regiment of Dragoons ; who accordingly , J _^_ 

4 did fo, and quartered in Eajl Lvtbittn, within iix odober. 
4 Miles of Edinburgh, the Foot lying in his Pvear at 
' Copperfpetb and thereabouts. 

1 Upon Friday, Sept. 29, came an Order from, 

* the Earl of Lantrk, and divers other Lords of his 

* Party, requiring the Governor of Berwick to 
c march out of the Town, which accordingly he 
did on Saturday Stpf. 30, at which Time I en- 
' tered. Having placed a G-arrifon there for ybur 

* Ufe, the Governor would fain have ca-pitula- 

* ted for the Englijh, but we having this Advan- 
' tage upon him, would not hear of it ; fo that 

* they are fubmitted to your Mercy, and are under 
the Confideration of Sir Arthur Hefilrig, who, I 

* believe, will give you a good Account of them, 
and who hath already turned out the malignant 
Mayor, and put an honeft Man in his room : I 
< have alfo received an Order for the Surrender of 
Carlifle^ and have fentCol. Bright with Horfeand 
Foot to receive it. Sir Andrew Carr and Col. 
Scot are gone with him to require an Obfervancc 
c of the Order, there having been a Treaty and 
an Agreement betwixt the two Parties in Arms 
in Scotland, to difband all Forces, except 1500 
' Horfe and Foot under the Earl of Leven^ which 
4 are to be kept up to fee all remaining Forces 
4 di (banded : And having fome other Things to 

* defire from the Committee of Eftates at Edin- 

* burgh for your Service, I am myfelf going thither- 
' ward this Day, and fo foon as I fliall be able to 
' give you a further Account thereof, I fliall do it : 

* In the mean Time I make it my Defire, That 
' the Garrifon of Berwick (into which I have placed 
' a Regiment of Foot, and fhall be attended allo by 

* a Regiment of Horfe) may be provided for ; and 
4 that Sir Arthur Hefelrig may receive Commands tt> 
' fupply it with Guns and Ammunition from New- 
' caftle, and be otherwife enabled by you to furnifh 

* this Garrifon with all other Neceflaries according 

* as a Place of that Importance will require. 

5 ' De- 



28 ^ he Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 C". -I e Defiring that thefe Mercies may beget Truft 
, e and Thankfulnefs to God the only Author of them, 
' and an Improvement of them to his Glory and the 
' Good of this poor Kingdom, I reft 

four moji humble Servant, 

O. CROMWELL. 

The LETTER from the Earl of LOUDON to General 
CROMWELL, above referred to. 

SIR, Edinburgh, Sept, 30, 1648. 

' \\7 ^ receive< * tnis Day two Letters from 

* W you, the one directed to the Marquis of 
Argyle and others, being a Letter of Credence to 
Col. Bright, Scoutmafter-General Rowe, and 
4 Mr. Stapylton; the other directed to the Com- 

< mittee of Eftates, which we find was intended for 

* thofe that concurred in the late unlawful Engage- 

* ment againft England : That which is demand- 
' ed in your Letter is, The Reftitution of the 
c Towns of Berwick and Carlijle into your Hands, 
' for the Ufe of the Parliament and Kingdom of 

* England. We doubt not but you know that we 

* diflented from, and protefted in Parliament a- 
' gainft, that finful Engagement againft your Na- 

* tion ; and, particularly, againft the feizing of the 

< Towns of Berwick and Carlijle ; which, together 
' with our late Sufferings and prefent Actions, are 

* clear Teftimonies how much we diftafted and 
' abhorred that Invafion, and the Violation of the 

* Covenant and Treaties betwixt the Kingdoms. 

* Before we received your Letter, we wrote unto 
c you by Sir Andrew Carr of Greenhead (c), and 

* Major Strachan, upon the 1 6th of this Inftant, 

* to acquaint you with our Condition, and our 

* Refolutions to contribute our beft Endeavours that 
' the Garrifons of Berwick and Carlijle might be 
' reduced, and thefe Towns reftored to the King- 
' dom of England, to whom of Right they do be- 

' long ; 

(<:) In other Papers relating to this Affair, this Gentleman is 
Lairi of Gramlfiitt* 



^ENGLAND. 29 

' long ; and having lately intercepted a Letter fent An. 24 Car. i. 

* from Lodowick Lejley, now Governor of Berwick, ^^ ' _^ 
4 to the Earl of Lanerk, or in his Abfence to the 

* Committee of Eftates, dehring their Directions 
4 what to do upon your Approach, we had, be- 

* fore the Receipt of your Letters, refolved to fend 

* fome from us, with Directions to Lodowick Lejley 
6 to deliver that Garrifon to you ; there being here 

* a Quorum of the Committee of Eftates, confuting 
" only of fuch Members of Parliament as protefted 
' againft the Engagement : And now, upon Con- 
4 fideration of your Letters, we have immediately 

* iffued Orders to the Governors of Berwick and 
' Carlijle, forthwith to deliver thefe Garrifons ; 

* which if they {hall not obey, we {hall, to the ut- 

* moft of our Power, concur to have them reduced : 

* And to the end our Orders herein may be the more 
4 readily obeyed, we have alfo fent the Marquis of 

* Argyki Lord Elcho, Col. Scot, and Col. George 
4 Porterfield, to Berwick, with Inftruclions to fee 
4 this fpeedyly put in Execution. 

4 We do account it a fpecial Providence, that 
4 at the fame Time when we are in this Pofture, 

* the Forces of the Kingdom of England are at fo 
4 near a Diftance ; which Opportunity we hope 
* mall be improved to the beft Advantage for pur- 

* fuing the common Enemies of both Kingdoms, 

* and for fupprefiing all that (hall endeavour to 

* difturb our Peace. 

* What further we have to fay, fhall be com- 
4 municated to you by our Commiffioners, to whom 
4 we defire you to give full Credit in all Things 
4 which they ihall fay unto you in the Name of 

Tour affeclionate Friends 

and humble Servants^ 
Subfcribed by Warrant of the Committee 
ofEfl^ly LOUD ON, a*.' 

The Commons, after reading thefe Letters, paf- 
fed a Vote in Approbation of General CromwelPs 

Pro- 



3 o T&e Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24C,ir. I. Proceedings, and ordered a Gratuity- of ioo/. to 
1648. the Mefienger that brought the New*. Both thefe 
October Refolutions they fent up to the Lords for their Con- 
currence, which was given as deiired. 

The Parliament r\n. <T>I TT r r T i n i 

declare their Ap- 6* 9. I he Houie of Lords was called over, 
probation of Ge- according to an Order of the fecond of this Month, 
d ^ omweli s wnen only 17 Peers were prefem viz. the Earls or" 
Denbigh, Kent, Lincoln, Rutland, Mulgrave, Not- 
tingham, and Suffolk ; the Vifc. Hereford; the Lords 
Berkley, North, Howard, Grey of Warke, Hunfdon, 
Wharton, Bruce, Maynard, and D acres. The 
Earls of Northumberland, Pembroke, Soli/bury 
.Middlefex, and the Vifcount % and Sele, were 
attending upon the King as Commiffioners for 
the Treaty in the Ifle of Wight ; and the Earl of 
Warwick with the Fleet ; the Earl of Oxford 
was excufed, he being then coming up purfuant 
to Summons; the Earis of Manchester and Stain- 
ford, and Lord Montague, ficic ; the Lord Roberts 
and other Peers, excufed for different Reafons. 
Small as this Number may be thought that ap- 
peared upon the Call, yet it rmght well be deem'd 
a full Houfe ; for fo many Peers had been fufpend- 
ed and difqualified upon one Pretence or another, 
that it was very fcldom twelve met to do Bu- 
finefs. 



'uDon Ot 1 I0 - Three ver 7 remarkable Petitions were 
Delinquents" P be- this Day prefentcd to the Houfe of Commons, all 
fore a Treaty be of them relating to the Treaty now on Foot between 
concluded with the m g aru j Parliament. 

The firft of them, brought in by Mr. Cornelius 
Holland, was intituled The humble Petition of the 
Mayor, Aldermen, Sheriff's, Common-Council Men, 
and others well-offered of the Toivn of Newcaftle? 
upon Tyne, in which the Petitioners defired, That 
the Houfe would be pleafed, before the Treaty be 
ended, to execute impartial and fpeedy Juftice 
upon the greateft Offenders and Incendiaries of the 
Kingdom, the Fomenters of, and A&ors in, the 

firft 



of E N G L A N D. 31 

Jirft aivJ fecond War; till when, they could not An 24 Car. I. 

expcft any Bleffing upon this Treaty ; and that in v '-^J , 

fo doing the Houlcs could not want the Aflillance odober* 
ol" God or Man. 

The fecond was prcfented by Alderman HoyJe of 
Yorke, in the Name of the Gentlemen, Minijlers, 
Freeholders and other Inhabitants of the County and 
City of York, vaell affetled to the Safety of the 
Kingdom, and the Honour of the Parliament^ in 
which they exprefled their Admiration at the dif- 
fipating the defperate Attempts of the Parliament's 
lubtle and malicious Enemies, and defeating the 
numerous Forces raifed this Summer ; which De- 
fign had been long in hatching before it broke forth j 
and complaining, That notvvithftanding all the Ad- 
vantages and Opportunities which God hath put 
into the Parliament's Hands, dy defeating all the 
Enemies of the Kingdom, yet that none of thefe 
had been imp' - ov'd as they ought, by executing of 
Jufticc upon Offenders, efpecially upon fuch as 
had polluted the Land with Blood ; his Majefty 
having confefs'd himfelf and his Party to be guilty 
thereof: The Petitioners therefore humbly defired, 
That there might not be a Forfeiture made of all ' 
the great Experience of God's Mercies in deftroy- 
ing thofe treacherous and implacable Enemies ; 
but that, according to the Declaration of Parlia- 
ment, their Proteftation and Solemn Covenant, 
exemplary Juftice might be executed upon thofe 
Offenders, without Partiality or Delay ; and that 
their Eftates might go towards difcharging the Ar- 
rears of the Soldiery and other public Debts, that 
God might be thereby glorified and the Land 
eleanfed from Blood. 

The third Petition was brought in by Serjeant 
Wylde^ (lately returned from the IVeftern Circuit, 
where he had a&ed as Judge of Aflize) in the 
Name of the Grand Jury of the County of So- 
merfet. This laft ran in a much higher Strain than 
the other^ two ; for thefe Petitioners declared ab- 
folutely againft the Treaty itfelf; affirming it to 
be the laft Refuge of the ICing and his Party, for 
5 the 




October. 



Debate there- 
upon. 



Parliamentary HISTORY 

the Ruin of God's People : That it was firft fet 
on Foot by them, and none but they expected to 
receive any Benefit by it: That tho* all the Pro-" 
pofitions mould be fign'd by the King, yet they 
look'd for little Security from thence ; for that 
when he fliould be reftored, the adverfe Party would 
foon find Means to recover their Ends, and enfiave 
all that had engaged for the Liberties of the People ; 
They therefore demanded that Juflice be executed 
upon all Delinquents, from the higheft to the loweft, 
without Exception. 

Thefe Petitions being read, a Member ftood 
up and fpoke to this Effect ; ' Mr. Speaker, I fup- 
pofe we ought not to trifle away our Time, and 
diflionour ourfelvcs, by debating thefe Petitions ; 
for it is now grown to a Cuftom for all Sorts ot 
People to intermeddle in Affairs of State, and vent 
their own Senfe and Humours under the Notion of 
a Petition. It cannot but reflect upon the Honour 
of the Houfe to give Countenance to fuch Courfes 
as thefe, and for us to fuffer ourfelves to be acted 
and fet on Work by Perfons without Doors, and 
to have our Proceedings directed and take their 
Rife from fuch Extravagancies as are uttered by 
pragmatical Petitioners at every Turn, whofe Duty 
it is rather to acquiefce in the Judgment and Wif- 
dom of the Houfe.' 

This Speech gave great Offence to the whole 
Independent Party, and particularly to Mr. Gour-> 
don, Mr. Venn, Mr. Harvey, Mr. Hoyle, and others, 
who had appeared in Favour of the Petitions. 
Thefe argued, ' That the Blood of the People be- 
ing (lied, it would be required fomewherej and 
that if the Houfe did not do Juftice, now it was in 
their Power, upon their capital Enemies, from the 
higheft to the loweft, who had a hand in the for- 
mer or latter Wars, there was no Queftion but all 
the Blood would be required at their Hands j and 
therefore, to remove the Guilt of it from them- 
ftlves, they defired a Committee might be appoint- 
ed to confider of a certain Number of Perfons to 
be fele&ed out of the old and new Delinquents, 

and 



^ENGLAND. 33 

and propounded to the Houfe to be excepted from An - 2 4 Car - I 
Mercy, and poceeded againft as capital Offend- , * 6 * 8 ' t 

ers *' October. 

To this Motion it was objected, e That of the 
thirty-eight Perfons formerly excepted out of 
Mercy, in the Propofitions then fent to the King, 
it had fince been the fettled Refolution of the 
Houfe. in thefe laft- Propofit'ons, to proceed capi- 
tally only againft feven ; and now to pitch upon a 
greater Number of Delinquents than thofe prefent- 
ed heretofore, would argue, that they neither re- 
garded the public Faith of Parliament, nor had a 
Mind to any Settlement at all, if the Treaty were 
to be difturbed by adding new Propofitions to thofe 
already prefented to his Majefty as a fit Founda- 
tion whereon to build a fafe and well-grounded 
Peace ; which no Man would conceive to be really 
intended, if the Treaty fhould be fprinkled with 
Blood.' It was alfo obferved, ' That the late In- 
furrections in Kent and EJJex> and of the Earl of 
Holland, and the holding out of Colchejler and di- 
vers other Places in the Kingdom, were acted be- 
fore the Parliament fent their Commiflioners to 
treat with the King : And therefore, if they had 
intended to proceed capitally againft any of the 
Perfons engaged in thofe Defigns, they {hould have 
fent the Exception of them along with the Propo- 
fitions ; but that it was now too late to make new 
Exceptions, which would be contradicting the Re- 
folutions of the Houfe laid down in the Propo- 
fitions already fent.' 

In Anfwer to this Mr. Weaver alledged, ' That 
the Houfe was bound by the Covenant to bring all 
Delinquents to Punifhment.' To which it was 
replied, * That it was true the Covenant did bind 
them to bring all Delinquents to Punifhment ; but 
it was not meant that the Punifhment fhould ex- 
tend, upon all, to Blood ; but that, at the Difcre- 
tion of the Houfe, it might be pecuniary. More- 
over, that when God did punifh any Nation with 
a War, and brought doubtful Cafes to the Trial of 
the Sword, he did not expc6l the Magiftrate fhould 
VOL. XVIII. C take 



34 *Tbe Parliamentary HISTORY 

Ao. 24 Car. I. take an Account of the Blood fo (bed, but referv'tf 
*-. * 6 * 8 ' j tne Account of it to his own fecret Judgment : 
Oftobtr. And therefore, when ^W^ kill'd Abner^ the Com- 
plaint againft Joab was not, that he had (bed the 
Blood of War, but that he had {hed the Blood of 
War in Time of Peace : Whereas if the Magi- 
ftrate fhould take Notice of Blood {hed in War, 
then the Wives and Children of all Men that had 
been flain in this War, might have Appeals of 
Murder againft thofe who killed them.* 

Hereupon Mr. Serjeant Wylde flood up and faid, 
' He denied that Doctrine, which taught that the 
Civil Magiftrate could not take Notice of the Blood 
fbed in War : That fuch an Affertion was de- 
itructive to the very Being of the Parliament, in 
regard Men might rebel as often as they would, 
arid then if they did but get into the Field, they 
were out of Danger of being called to Account/ 

Mr. Denait Bond faid, We have had, Mr. 
Speaker, many Doctrines preached here by feveral 
Gentlemen againft the Power of this Houfe ; fuch 
as, that we cannot try my Lord of Norwich^ but 
by his Peers, becaufe it is againft Magna Cbarta j 
but I truft ere long to fee the Day when we may 
have Power to hang the greateft Lord of them all r 
if he deferves it, without Trial by his Peers ; and 
I doubt not but we fhall have honeft refolute 
Judges to do it, notvvithftanding Magna Charta.' 

Colonel White faid, ' There was a quicker Way 
to rid their Hands of all Delinquents - r and that 
was by Martial Law : And therefore he moved, 
' That an Ordinance might be patted to try them 
all that Way ; that fo the People might be no- 
longer deluded in their Expectation of Juftice/ 
Hereupon, another Member, finding fo earneft a De- 
mand for Juftice, ftood up and faid, * Mr. Speaker, 
I conceive Gentlemen miftake the Meaning of 
thefe Petitions in demanding Juftice upon all De- 
linquents ; for I fuppofe the People look for na 
other Juftice, but that all Members, and Officers 
intrufted, fhould be brought to give up their Ac- 
counts for all public Monies received, and feque- 
2 ftred 



^.ENGLAND. 35 

ftred Eftates, and the like ; which Kind of Juftlce An, 54 Car.l. 
would, in my Apprehenflon, pleafe the People far t ''*4' ^ 
better than the fliedding of Blood/ oaober. 

Sir John Evelyn^ of WtUi t finding the Petitioners 
thus warmly oppofed by fom Gentlemen, and 
ridiculed by others, moved, in order to bring them 
off with the better Grace, That, to prevent giv- 
ing any farther Offence, thefe Petitions might be 
laid afide till they faw the Event of the Treaty ; 
which if it took no Effect, then the Houfe might 
refume the Confideration of them, or not, at their 

Difcretion.' And fo this Matter dropp'd. Ne- 

verthelefs the Commons ordered their Thanks to 
be given to Serjeant Jfylde? (who, as before ob- 
ferved, brought in the laft of thefe Petitions) for 
his great and good Service done to the Parliament, 
in the late Circuit he rode as one of the Juftices of 
Affize. 

In that Circuit the Serjeant had direbd the 
Grand Jury, at Wmchejler^ to put an Ignoramus 
upon a Bill of Indictment preferred againft Major 

Ralph for intending to murder the King. 

Of this Affair we have already taken Notice in our 
Seventeenth Volume, and fome further Particulars 
will ftiortly appear in the fubfequent Tranfadtions 
of this Month. 

Many Days had now parted without any Intel- 
ligence from the Jjle of Wight : But, 

Off. n. The Houfe of Lords received the fol- 
lowing Letter from their Commiffioners, with fe- 
veral Papers inclofed, which were all read as fol- 
lows : 

For the Right Hon. the Earl of MANCHESTER, 
Speaker of the Houfe of PEERS pro Tempore, at 
Weftminfter. 

My Lord> Newport^ Oft. o, 1648. ALmerfrom 

- _ _ _ Y, , f . . the Parliament'! 

\JU * herewith prefent your Lordlhip with commiffioners, 
' VV an Account of our Proceedings upon the inclofmg feveral 

* Proportions concerning the Church and the Mi- P a g p J/chJIch 

C 2 * Htia l and the MiJitR 




Parliamentary H I s f 6 R Y 

litia ; and for the Particulars we refer to the Pa- 
* pers inclofed. We have this Evening delivered 
' his Majefty a Paper upon the Propofitions con- 
' cerning Ireland. We remain 

Your Lordjhip's 

Mojl humble and faithful Servant^ 

PEMBROKE and MONT- MIDDLESRX, 
GOMERY, SAY and SELE. 

SALISBURY, 

The KING'S Firft PAPER, irr Anfwer to the Pro- 
pofition for the CHURCH. 

CHARLES R. New P rt > $*& 3> l6 4&- 

JN Anfwer to your Paper of the i$th of September, 
* 1648, wherein you defer e his Majejly' s Royal 
Ajfent to the Propofitions, Billi, and Ordinances 
therein mentioned concerning the Church : 

His Majejly will confent that the calling and fitting 
efthe AJfembly of Divines at Weftminfter be,confirmed 
for three Years by Aft of Parliament : 

And will, by Aft of Parliament, confirm for thrde 
Years the Directory for the public Worjhip of God in 
the Kingdoms of England and Ireland, and Do- 
minion of Wales : 

And will likewife confirm for three Years, by Aft 
of Parliament, the Form of Church Government 
which you have prefented to him, to be ufed in the 
Churches of England and Ireland, and Dominion of 
Wales. ' 

Provided that bis Majejly, and thofe of his Judg- 
ment, or any others who cannot in Confcience fub- 
mit thereunto, be not in the mean Time obliged to 
comply with the faid Government or Form of Wor- 
jhip, but have free Pr aft ice of their own Profef- 
fion j and that a free Confultation and Debate f>t 
had with the Ajfembly of Divines at Weftminfter 
in the mean Time, (twenty of his Majejly s No- 
mination 



^ENGLAND. 37 

nunation being added unto them) whereby it may An* 24 c ^. ' 

te determined by his Majejly and his two Houfes of ^^ ^ 

Parliament, how the faid Church Government, and 

Farm of public Worjhip, after the fold Time, may 

be fettled, or (ooner, if Differences may be agreed j 

and how alfo Reformation of Religion may be fettled 

-within the Kingdoms of England and Ireland, and 

Dominion of Wales ; and the Articles of Chrijlian 

Religion now delivered unto him, may, in like Manner, 

be then confedered of and determined, and Cure taken 

for the Eafe of tender Confciences. 

And concerning the Hi/hops Lands and Revenues : 
his Majcfty confidering that, during thefe troublefome 
jTimes, divers of his Subjects have rnsde Gort&ioBt and 
Pur chafes, and divers others have dijburfed -great Sums 
of Money upon Security and Engagement of thofe 
Lands ; his Majejly for their Satisfaction will confeni 
to an Aft or Acls of Parliament, whereby legal EJlates 
for Lives, or for Years, at their Choice, not exceeding 
Year 



ninety-nine Years, /ba}l ie 'jnade of thofe Lands, to- 
wards the Satisfaction of the faid Pur chafen, Con- 
traflors, and others, to whom they are engaged, at the 
old Rents, or fame other moderate Rents, whereby they 
may receive Satisfaction. 

And in cafe fuch Leafes Jhall not fuffice, his Majejfy 
will propound and confent to feme other Way for their 
farther Satisfaction. 

Provided that ihe Property and Inheritance of 
thofe Lands may Jlill remain and continue to ike 
CJhurch and Churchmen refpecJively, according to the 
pious Intentions of the Donors and Founders thereof, 
and the Rents that Jhall bf r-fferved be for their 
Maintenance. 

His Majcjly will give his Royal Ajfent to an AR 
for the betfer Obfervatian of the Lord's Day, far 
fapprejjing of Innovations in Churches and Chapeh., 
in and about the IVorfoip of God, and for the better 
Advancement of the Preaching of God's Holy Word 
in all Parts of this Kingdom ; and to an Aft again/I 
enjoying Pluralities of Benefices by Spiritual Perfons 
end Nen-Reftdtncy - t and to an Acl for 
C 3 



3 & 1 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. z4 Car. I. and reforming both the Univerfities, and the Colleges of 
16 4 8> t Weftminfter, Winchefter, and Eaton. 
Oflober. ^" Majejty will confent to an Att for the letter 

Difcovery andfpeedy Conviction of Popijb Recufants, 
as is defired In the Proportions : 

And alfo to an Att for the Education of the Chil- 
dren of Papijis, by Proteftants, in the Protejlant Re- 
ligion : 

And alfo to an Aft for the t) ue levying of the Pe- 
nalties againjl Papifts, to be levied and difpofed in fuck. 
Manner as both Houfes Jhall agree on, and as is pro- 
pofed on his Majejlfs Behalf : 

And alfo to an Aft to prevent the P raft ices of Pa- 
pifts again/I the State, and for putting the Laws in 
Execution? and for ajlritter Course to prevent hearing 
ar faying of Mafs* 

But as to the Covenant, his Majejly is not yet 
therein fathfied, that he can either Jign or fwear it y 
or confent to impofe it on the Confciences of others ; nor 
does conceive it proper or ufeful at this Time to be in- 
flfted sn. 

77;<? COMMISSIONERS REPLY to the KING'S Firft 
ANSWER to the Proportion concerning the CHURCH. 

Newport, Sept. 30, 1648. 
h ave confidered of your Majefty's Paper, 
given in to us this Moining, in Anfwer 

* to ours of the 25th Inftant, prefented unto you 
* concerning the Church ; and do find in it many 
c Omiflions, Alterations, and fome Denials of fe^ 

* veral Particulars which we there have humbly 

* defired j as namely thefe : 

Firft, * Your Majefty faith nothing of confent- 

* ing to a Bill for the utter abolifhing and taking 

* away of Archbi{hops, Bifhops, &c. out of the 
1 Churches of England and Ireland, and Dominion 
of Wales. 

Secondly, ' You exprefs not your Confent, ac- 

* cording as it is defired, that the Ordinance for a- 

* bolifhing of Archbifhops and Bifhops within the 

* Kins- 



af ENGLAND. 39 

* Kingdom of England and Dominion of Wales, and An. sj Car. I. 

* fettling their Lands and Pofleflions upon Truftees t !^* 7 ' __ 

* for the Ufe of the Commonwealth, and the other oftober. 

* Ordinance for the appointing the Sale of their 

* Lands to the fame Ufe, be confirmed by A& of 
' Parliament. But you are pleafcd only to offer, 

* That) by AcJ of Parliament, Eftates be granted for 
' Lives or Fears at the old Rents, or form other mo- 

* derate Rents j or that you will propound and confent 

* to feme other Way far the Satisfaction of Pur~ 

* chafers, or others that have lent Money on thofe 

* Lands, provided that the Property and Inheritance 
' may ftill remain to the Church and Churchmen, and 

* the Rents be referred for their Maintenance ; which 
* your Majefty will give us Leave to fay,, is not an 
' Anfwer unto our Proportion. 

Thirdly, Whereas it is defired your Majefty will 
' confirm, by AcT: of Parliament, the Ordinance 

* for the calling and fitting of the Aflembly of Di- 

* vines, by which they were to meet, and did meet 

* the firft of July 1643, and are to be diflfolved 

* in fuch Manner as by both Houfes of Parlia- 

* ment (hould be directed ; your Majefty is pleafed 

* to grant the Confirmation of it but for three 

* Years only, they having fat above five Years al- 

* ready. 

Fourthly, Whereas we pray, That Reformation 
4 of Religion, according to the Covenant, be fettled 

* in England, Ireland, and Wales, in fuch Manner 

* as both Houfes have agreed, or {hall agree upon, 

* after Consultation had with the Aflembly of Di- 

* vines ; particularly, 

* That the Directory be confirmed by Aft of 

* Parliament, together with the Ordinances of the 

* 3d of January 1644, and the 23d of Augufl 1645, 

* concerning the taking away of the Book of Com- 

* mon Prayer, and putting the Directory in Exe- 

* cution ; your Majefty doth not fay you will con-* 

* firm thofe Ordinances, which is our humble De- 

* fire, only that the Directory fhall be confirmed 

* for three Years ; and, for ought that yet appears, 

* the Book of Common Prayer is ftill to be con- 

C 4 tinued. 



40 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. ' tinned. Befides, we make it our humble Propo- 

l6 4 8 - < fition, that the Form of Church Government, 

""oftober * ^ Articles f Religion, and the Ordinances for 

* the better Obfervation of the Lord's Day, be 
' confirmed by Act of Parliament ; your Majefty 

* only offers to confirm the Church Government 

* for three Years, with a Provifo, That your Ma~ 

* jefty, and all of your Judgment, and all others 

* who cannot In Confclence fubmit thereunto, Jhall 
' not be obliged to comply either with the Govern- 

* ment or Form of Worjhip, but to praftice your 
c and their own ProfeJJion. And that a Confulta- 

* tion in the mean Time may be had with the Af- 
' femlly of Divines, (twenty being added of your 

* Majeflfs Nomination) for the determining how 
1 Church Government and the Form of Worjhip may 

* be agreed after the faid Time or fooner ; and 
( hnv Reformation of Religion may be fettled; and 
' that then the Articles of Religion may be confi- 
' dered and determined, and Care taken for tender 

* Confeiences. All which, we humbly crave Leave, 

* to fay, is very different from what WQ h'ave de- 
fired. 

* And whereas your Majefty faith, That you 

* will give your Royal AJJent to an Afi for the better 
' Obfervation of the Lord's Day ; we defire to know 
' if your Majefty intends the confirming of the 

* Ordinances then prefented, which is our humble 
Defire. 

Fifthly, < Whereas it is defired, That your Ma- 

* jefty will give your Royal AfTent to the Bill for 
c fupprefling Innovations in Churches, &c, and the 
c Bill againft Pluralities, ts'c. your Majefty faying, 

* You will ajjent unto an Att for the one and for the 

* other ; we likewife defire to know, if you mean the 
e paffing of thofe Bills already prefented unto you. 

Sixthly, We humbly defire, That in the Acl 
c to prevent the Practices of Papifts, &c. there may 
c be a ftrifter Courfe taken to prevent the faying 
c or hearing of Mafs in the Court, or any other 
' Part of this Kingdom, or the Kingdom of Ire- 

* land. But in this your Majefty hath not fully ex- 

preffed 



^ENGLAND. 4 1 

' prefled yourfelf ; therefore we humbly crave your Am JJ 4 ar * L 

* farther Anfwer to it. t 

Seventhly, c Whereas we befeech your Majefty oftobcr. 

* to fign and fwear the Covenant, and to pafs Acts 
4 for enjoining the taking thereof by all the Sub- 
' je&s of England and Ireland-, and that the Ordi- 

* nances for the Manner of taking the fame, with 

* fuch Penalties as (hall be agreed upon by both 
' Houfes, may be confirmed by AcT: of Parliament ; 

* your Majefty is pleafed to fay, You are not yet 
1 therein fatisfied nor can either fign or fwear it your - 

* felfy or confent to impofe it upon others ; and that 
' you conceive it not proper to be infijled on at this 
1 Time ; which, we beg your Pardon to fay, is di- 
' rcdtly contrary to the humble Defires of your two 
' Houfes of Parliament. 

' All thefe Things confidered, and what other 
4 Defects may be in your Majefty's Anfwer to our 
4 Paper formerly mentioned and preferred unto you, 
4 makes us now humbly pray your Majefty to re- 
' fume the Confideration of thofe our Defires, and 

* gracioufly to afford us your more full and fatisfac- 

* tory Anfwer.' 

[Sign' a 7 by all the CommiJJioners.] 

Next follow feveral Papers delivered by the King 
to the Divines attending the Commiffioners, being 
his Majefty's Scruples againft abfolutely commenting 
to the Parliament's Propofition concerning the 
Church, with their Anfwer and his Reply ; but thefe 
being no Part of the Treaty itfelf, a Reference to 
them may be fufficient (k). 

The COMMISSIONERS PAPER, prcjfing for a ful- 
ler jfnfiver to the Propofition concerning the 
CHURCH. 

Newport^ Ofl. 6, 1648. 

' T T Aving prefented to your Majefty a Paper 
' 1 1 containing the Propofitions for the Church, 
' upon the 25th of September-, and feconded it 

4 with 

(k Sir FJivarJ Walked, Colltfliort, p. 38, tt fej. Royjlo*t 
Idition of the King's Worh, p. 677, et Jej. 




The Parliamentary HISTORY 
another Pa p er of the 2 9 th > P ra y in g y ur An " 

fwer, which we received upon the 3oth ;"but with 
Odober. c many Alterations, Omiffions, and fome Denials 
' in the Particulars of our Defire, as we have feve- 
' rally exprefled them in a Paper given in the fame 
' Day. And fince that, having fpent feveral Days 

* in Debate and Conference with your Majefty, 
' upon the Scruples and Doubts which you were 

* pleafed to fay did remain with you concerning 

* thofe Particulars ; wherein we endeavoured to 

* make appear the Reafonablenefs of our Defire, 

* and we hope have given your Majefty Satisfaction : 

* We (confidering fo much of our limitted Time to 

* be already paft, and fo little Progrefs made in this 

* great Bufmefs, upon which fo much depends) do 

* moft humbly befeech your Majefty to give your 

* full Anfwer to theDefiresof your two Houfes con- 
' cerning the Church, fet down in our faid Paper 

* of the 2fth of September. 

\&ign*d by all the Commi(fioners.*\ 

The KING'S Second ANSWER concerning the 
CHURCH. 

Newport, O&. 9, 1648. 
CHARLES R. 

~f?O R a further and final Anfwer to you, as to 
* your fecund Proportion concerning the Church, and 
to your Paper of the 30^ of September, wherein 
you alledge there are many Omiffions, Alterations, 
and fome Denials of feveral Particulars in his Ma- 
jefty's former Anfwer, bis Majefty faith as follow - 
etb: 

I. As to the Exception^ That his Majefty faid 
nothing to the confenting to the Bill for the utter 
abolifhing of Archbifhops, Bimops, &c. nor that 
the Ordinance for abolifhing them be confirmed by 
Aft of Parliament ; bis Majejly faith, That in hit 
former Anfwer he did confent to confirm for three 
Tears, by Aft of Parliament, the Form of Church- 
Government, and Directory for Worjhip, which ysu 
trefcntfd to him ; and thereby hath tftfblijbtd the ac- 
tual 



of E N G L A N D. 43 

Po/eJJion and public Exerclfe of tbofe Form, An. 24. Car. 

hath fufpended the prefint Gsvernment and Form ^ 6 * ' 

of Worjhip eJJabliJhed by Law ; but deftred a Conful- O ftober. 
tat ion with Divines in the mean Time, for a future 
Settlement, as in the Paper is expre/ed ; yet finding 
by your fai 'd Paper, of the $oth of September, that 
not to be fatisfaftory, his Majejly, with all Clear nefs, 
will acquaint you what was his Aim therein. 

His Majejly therefore declares, That the Reafon 
why he did net anfwer to that Part of your Propofi- 
tion in Terms as it is propofed, was, becaufe he was 
not fatisficd in his Confcience he can confent to the 
utter abolijhing of Epifcopacy, the Subflance whereof 
he conceives to confijl in the Power of Ordination and 
yurifdifiion as they were exercifed by the Apojllcs 
thtmfefoes, and others by Authority derived from 
them, fuperior to Pr?Jlyters and Deacons in the Pri- 
mitive Times. But becaufe he acknowledgeth that 
Bijhops were to have Council and Ajjijlance of Pref- 
byters in Ordination and 'JurifdiEiion, and the laft 
were and are limitable by the Civil Power, his Ma- 
jejly defired the Consultation with the Divines, to 
the end that he and his two Houfes might determine 
in what Manner Ordination and 'Jurifdiflion might 
be moderated and regulated for the future Govern- 
ment of the Church ; his Majejly' s Refolution being 
to comply with his two Houfes for the Alteration and 
regulating of this prefent Hierrchy and Government, 
fo as Epifcopacy, reduced to the primitive Ufage, may 
be fettled and continued in this Church: And there- 
fore his Majejly heartily defires their Concurrence in 
the one, that he may with the more Freedom give his 
Ajjent to the other ; and, if his two Houfes Jhall fa 
advife, his Majejly will confent to lejfen the Extent 
and multiply the Number of Diocefes. And in other 
Particulars of like Nature, which upon farther Con- 
federation may arife, and cannot now be particularly 
declared or forefeen, his Majejly will evidence ):is 
only Care is for the orderly Government of the Churchy 
and the edifying of his People. 

2. As 'to the Exception, That his Majefty hath 
not expreffed his Confent for fettling the Bifhops 

Lands 



44 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 74 Car. .1 Lands upon Truftees, for the Ufe of the Common- 
^__ , wealth, and for the appointing the Sale of their 

Odtober. Lands to the fame Ufe j It is true be hath not, to 
alienate the Inheritance of thofe Lands ; and herein 
he believes he hath the concurrent Opinions of many 
Divine s, that in other Points differ much among 
themfehes ; but his former Anfwer containing a large 
Offer of Satisfaction to all thofe that have purchafed 
cr difburfed Money upon thofe Lands, he hopes that 
Anfwer, to which he now refers, will be fatisfaclory 
to his two Houfes. 

3. As to thai Part of the Proportion, for the cal- 
ling and fitting of the AJfembly of Divines, his Ma- 
jejly faith ) That he will* by Att of Parliament , con- 
firm the calling and fitting of the faid Ajjembly from 
the fir Jl of July 1643, and that they Jhall havefuch 
Powers as are mentioned in the faid Ordinance, and 
that they Jhall continue their meeting and fitting, and be 
dijfolved infuch Manner as both Houfes of Parliament 
Jhall dlreSt. 

4. His Majejly will confirm the public Ufe of the 
Directory In all Churches and Chapels, as is defired 
In the Proportion, and will confent to the Repeal of fo 
much of all the Statutes as only concern the Book of 
Common Prayer ; andalfo to the taking the fame away 
out of all Churches, and Chapels, provided that the 
Ufe thereof may be continued in his Majejty's Chapel, 

for himfelf and his Houjhold ; and will likewife confent, 
that the Form of Church-Government, prefented to 
him, be confirmed by Aft of Parliament for three 
Years ; provided only, that a Confultation, in the mean 
Time, be had with the Affembly of Divines, in fuch 
Manner and for the Purpofcs as are in his former An- 
fwer expreffed. 

Touching the Articles of Religion ; his Majejly pro- 
fejjeth he hath not had Time fence they were delivered 
unto him, to look into them with that Deliberation as is 
requijite, before 're bind up himfelf and his Subjcfis in 
Matters of Fait!- and Doftrine ; and therefore dc fires 
that Part of your Proportion may be rej'piied by hit 
two Houfes. 

5. And 



$f ENGLAND. 45 

5. And whereas you defire to know. Whether his An. H Car. I. 
Majefty by faying, in his Paper of the ^oth of Sep- . * **' 
tember, That he will give his Royal Aflent to an 
Aa for the better Obfcrvation of the Lord's Day, 
intends the confirming of the Ordinance prefented 
unto him: His Majejly thereunto anfwers, That the 
Bill for fupprejjing Innovations, to which you defire his 
Confent, which he is willing to give, contains in it full 
Provifion for the due Observation of the Lord's Day : 
And, if that be not thought fujficient, his Majejly 
will confent to pafs an Aft to confirm the Matter of 
the Ordinance, for fo much as concerns the Obfcr- 
vation of that Day. But as for the Ordinance 
itfclf, and the ether Ordinances before-mentioned, 
which have been long fince drawn, his Majejly hofc* 
they will not be injijled on to be confirmed in Terminis 
as they are penn'd, becaufe that there are divers 
necejjary Alteraoions to be made in moft of them, in 
rcfpeft of feme Things happened Jince their firjl 
framing ; and ExpreJJions therein that reflett on former 
/1abliJhed Laws, and other Matters not necejjary to 
the Alteration defired. But if new Acls be dra^vn ac- 
cording to his Confent herein exprejjed he will confirm 
them. 

6. His Majcjly conceived be had given a full An- 
fwer to your Defire, That there might be a ftri&er 
Courfe taken to prevent the faying or hearing of 
Mafs in the Court or in any other Part of this 
Kingdom or the Kingdom of Ireland. It is well 
known of ivhat ProfeJJion his Royal Confort is, and 
what Provifion was made by the two Crowns in the 
Articles of Marriage, for her Exercife thereof. But 
whatever Particulars fiall be propofed to him for 
retraining it in the Places aforejaid, and limiting 
it to her Majejiy and her own Familv, (wherein are 
but very feiu Englilh, and not many French, of her 
ProfeJJion) his Majefty never did, nor will, deny his 
Confent thereunto. 

7. Concerning the Covenant, and the Ordinances 
concerning the fame ; his Majejlys Anfwer bein?;, 
That he was not yet fatisjied to take ;V, cr impofe it 



46 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

A *' 2 ?6 s"' T " 5 " 5/ ^ r * ^ conce ives his two Houfes will not infifl upon 
i '-^ ' ^ it at this Time; and the rather becaufethe Ends thereof 
Oftober. w ill be obtained by this Agreement, if happily concluded .' 
Which God grant. 

"The COMMISSIONERS PAPER upon the KING'S 
Second ANSWER to the Proportion concerning the 
CHURCH. 

Newport, Off. 9, 1648. 

* \7 OUR Majefty having delivered in a Paper of 
4 JL this prefent ninth of Oftober, as your farther 

* and final Anfwer to us, as to the fecond Propofi- 
4 tion, concerning the Church ; we (hall tranfmit 
c the fame to both Houfes of Parliament, with the 
4 other Proceedings pafTed in writing on that fecond 

"* Propofition, and go on in the Treaty according 

* to our Inftruftions. 

[Sign'd by the Commijjioners.] 

The COMMISSIONERS PROPOSITION concerning the 
MILITIA. 

Newport, Oft. 9, 1648. 
E humbly defire your Majefty to give your 
Royal Afient to the Propofition following, 
6 concerning the Militia : 

* That the Lords and Commons in the Parlia- 
' ment of .Ew^/Waflembled, (hall during the Space 

* of twenty Years, from the firft of July 1646, arm, 
c train, and difcipline, or caufe to be armed, trained, 
' and difciplined, all the Forces of the Kingdoms of 

* England and Ireland, and Dominion of IPa/es, 
' the Ifles of Guernfey and Jerfey, and the Town 

* of Berwick upon Tweed, already raifed both for 

* Sea and Land Service j and fhall from Time to 
' Time, during the faid Space of twenty Years, 
' raife, levy, arm, train, difcipline, or caufe to be 
4 raifed, levied, armed, trained, and difciplined, 
' any other Forces for Land and Sea Service, in the 
4 Kingdoms, Dominions, and Places aforefaid, as 
' in their Judgments they fhall, from Time to 

4 Time, 



of E N G L A N D. 47 

* Time, during the faid Space of twenty Years, An *4 ar> 
' think fit and appoint. And that neither the v 

* King, his Heirs, nor Succeffors, nor any other 
' but fuch as fhall aft by the Authority or Appro- 

* bation of the faid Lords and Commons, {hall, 
' during the faid Space of twenty Years, exercife 

* any of the Powers aforefaid. 

4 That Monies be raifed and levied for the 

* Maintenance and Ufe of the faid Forces for Land 
' Service, and of the Navy and Forces for Sea Ser- 

* vice, in fuch Sort, and by fuch Ways and Means, 

* as the faid Lords and Commons fhall, from Time 

* to Time, during the faid Space of twenty Years, 
4 think fit and appoint, and not otherwife. That 

* all the faid Forces both for Land and Sea Service, 

* fo raifed or levied, or to be raifed or levied, and 
4 alfo the Admiralty or Navy, fhall, from Time to 
4 Time, during the faid Space of twenty Years, 
4 be employed, managed, ordered, and difpofed by 

* the faid Lords and Commons, in fuch Sort, and 
4 by fuch Ways and Means, as they fhall think fit 
4 and appoint, and not otherwife. And the faid 
4 Lords and Commons, during the faid Space of 

* twenty Years, fhall have Power, 

Fir/I, 4 To fupprefs all Forces raifed, or to be 
4 raifed, without Authority and Confcnt of the faid 
4 Lords and Commons, to the Difturbance of the 

* public Peace of the Kingdom of England and 
4 Ireland, and Dominion of Wales, the Ifles of 

* Guernfey and Jerfey, and the Town of Berwick 
4 upon Tweed, or any of them. 

Secondly, 4 To fupprefs any foreign Forces who 
4 fhall invade, or endeavour to invade, the King- 

* doms of England and Ireland, and Dominion of 

* Wales, the Ifles of Guernfey and Jerfey, and the 
4 Town of Berwick upon Tweed, or any of them. 
4 And that after the Expiration of the faid twenty 
4 Years, neither the King, his Heirs nor Succeflbrs, 
4 or any Perfon, or Perfons, by Colour or Pretence 

* of any Commiffion, Power, Deputation, or Au- 
4 thority, to be derived from the King, his Heirs 
4 or Succeflbrs, or any of them, fhall raife, arm, 

* train, 



48 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. ' train, difcipline, employ, order, manage, difband, 
1648. or djfp f e anv O f the Forces by Sea or Land, of 
' the Kingdoms of England and Ireland^ and Do- 

* minion of Wales ^ the Ifles of Guernsey and Jerfey t 
' and the Town of Berwick upon Tweed ; nor exer- 
c cife any of the faid Powers or Authorities in the 
' precedent Articles mentioned andexpreffed to be, 
4 during the faid Space of twenty Years, in the faid 
' Lords and Commons ; nor do any A6t or Thing 

* concerning the Execution of the faid Powers or 
' Authorities, or any of them, without the Confent 

* of the faid -Lords and Commons firft had and 
' obtained. 

* That after the Expiration of the faid twenty 
' Years, in all Cafes wherein the Lords and Com- 
' mons fhall declare the Safety of the Kingdom to 
' be concerned, and fhall thereupon pafs any Bill 

* or Bills for the railing, arming, training, difci- 
' plining, employing, managing, ordering, or dif- 

* pofmg of the Forces by Sea or Land, of the 

* Kingdoms of Eng Ian d and Ireland^ the Dominion 
' of Wales* the Ifles of Guernsey and "Jerfey, or the 

* Town of Berwick upon Tweed, or of any Part of 
' the faid Forces, or concerning the Admiralty and 

* Navy ; or concerning the levying of Monies for 

* the Railing, Maintenance, or Ufe of the faid 
' Forces for Land Service, or for the Navy and 

* Forces for Sea Service, or of any Part of them : 
If the Royal Aflent to fuch Bill or Bills (hall 
not be given in the Houfe of Peers within fuch 

* Time after the paffing thereof by both Houfes of 
< Parliament, as the faid Houfes fhall think fit and 

* convenient, that then fuch Bill or Bills, fo pafled 
' by the faid Lords and Commons as aforefaid, and 
' to which the Royal Aflent mall not be given as is 

* herein before exprefled, fhall, neverthelefs, after 
Declaration of the faid Lords and Commons 

* made in that Behalf, have the Force and Strength 
Qf an Adi or A6b of Parliament, and fhall be as 

* valid, to all Intents and Purpofes, as if the Royal 
' Aflent had been given thereunto. 



^ENGLAND. 49 

* Provided that nothing herein before-contained An. 24 car* I. 
' (hall extend to the taking away of the ordinary 
' legal Power of Sheriffs, Juftices of Peace, May- 

* ors, Bailiffs, Coroners, Conftables, Headbo- 

* roughs, or other Officers of Juftice, not being 

* military Officers, concerning the Adminiftration 
' of Juftice ; fo as neither the faid Sheriffs, Juftices 
< of Peace> Mayors, Bailiffs, Coroners, Conftables, 
' Headboroughs, or other Officers, nor any of 
' them, do levy, conduit, employ or command 
c any Forces whatfoevgr, by Colour or Pretence 
4 of any Commiffion of Array, or extraordinary 

* Command from his Majefty, his Heirs, or Suc- 

* ceflbrs, without the Confent of the faid Lords and 

* Commons. 

1 And if any Perfons mall be gathered and af- 

* fembled together, in warlike Manner, or other- 

4 wife, to the Number of thirty Perfons, and fhall x 

* not forthwith difband themfclves, (being required 

* thereto by the faid Lords and Commons, or Com- 

* mand from them, or any by them efpecially au* 

* thorifed for that Purpofe) then fuch Perfon or 
e Perfons, not fo difbanding themfelves, fhall be 
4 guilty, and incur the Pains of High Treafon, 
4 being firft declared guilty of fuch Otfence by the 
' faid Lords and Commons, any Commiffion under 
4 the Great Seal, or other Warrant to the contrary 

* notwithftanding ; and he or they that fhall offend 

* therein, to be incapable of any Pardon from his 

* Majefty, his Heirs or Succeflbrs, and their Eftates 

* (hall be difpofed of as the faid Lords and Com- 

* mons fhall think fit, and not otherwife. 

4 Provided, that the City of London fhall have 

* and enjoy all their Rights, Liberties, and Fran- 
' chifes, Cuftoms and Ufages, in the raifing and 
8 employing the Forces of that City for the De- 
' fence thereof, in as full and ample Manner, to 

* all Intents and Purpofes, as they have or might 

* have ufed or enjoyed the fame at any Time be- 
' fore the making of the faid Aft or Proportion ? 

* to the end that City mav be fully allured it is net 

VOL. XVIII.' D 'the 



Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. < the Intention of the Parliament to take from them 
l6 * 8 ' ' any Privileges or Immunities in raifmg or difpo- 

^ Qfobef. * ** in S of their Forces, wnicn tne y na ve or might 

* hi-ve ufed or enjoyed heretofore* 

* That the Militia of the City of London and 

* Liberties thereof, may be in the Ordering and Go- 

* vernment of the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and 

* Commons, in Common-Council afiembled, or 

* fuch as they {hall, from Time to Time, appoint, 

* (whereof the Lord Mayor and Sheriffs for the 

* Time being to be three) to be employed and di- 

* reeled, from Time to Time, in fuch Manner 

* as (hall be agreed on and appointed by both Houfes 

* of Parliament. 

* That no Citizens of the City of London, nor 
fc any Forces of the faid City, (hall be drawn forth, 

* or compelled to go out of the faid City, or Liber- 

* ties thereof, for Military Service, without their 

* own free Conferit. 

6 That the Tower of London may be in the Go- 

* vernment of the City of London, and the Chief 
6 Officer or Governor thereof, from Time to Time, 

* to be nominated and removeable by the Com- 

* mori-Council.' 

[Sign'd by the Commijjioners.'] 

The KING'S Firft ANSWER to the Proportion con- 
cerning the MILITIA. 

CHARLES R. Newport, Oft. 9, 1648. 

TN Anfwer to your Paper . delivered in this Day, 
-* concerning the Militia ; his Majefty conceives 
that your Proportion touching the Militia demands 
a far larger Power over the Per fans and Eftates of 
his Subjects than hath ever hitherto been warranted 
by the Laws and Statutes of this Realm ; yet, confi- 
dering the prefent Di/lraflians require more, and 
trujling in his two Houfes of Parliament, that they 
will make no farther Ufe of the Powers therein men- 
tioned after the prefent Diftempers are fettled, than 
/hail be agreeable to the legal Extrcife thereof in Times 



^/ENGLAND. $i 

/><z/?, and for the Purpofes particularly mentioned in y bur Afl. 24. Car. r. 
Proportion ; # nd to give Satisfaction to Lis two Houfos 9 1 l648 ' .. 
*^af ta intends a full Security ; rf^ /0 exprefs his real &&&&* 
Defire to fettle the Peace of the Kingdom^ his Majejly 
doth confent to this Proportion, touching the MJlitiOy 
as is defired. 

This Anfwer the Commiflioners refufing to re- 
ceive, his Majefty the fame Day, lent the following : 

CHARLES R. Ne *P ort > O<a - 9> 1*48- 

IrN Anfwer to your Proportion concerning the Mlli- 
* tia, delivered in this Dd*, his Majefty dcth there* 
unto confent) as is defired. 



t, 0&. 9, 1648: 
' \7 OUR Majefty having delivered in a Paper 

* A of this prefent ninth of Oflober^ containing 

* your Anfwer to the third Proportion, concerning 
' the Militia, we {hall tranfmit the fame to both 

* Houfcs of Parliament, and go on in the Treaty 

* according to our Inftruclions.' 

[Sign'd by the CommiJJioners.] 

The Lords deferred the Confederation of all 
thefe Papers to the 1 3th : But in the Houfe of Com- 
mons, immediately after their being read, Mr. Ed- 
ward AJhe ftood up and faid, ' He could have in- 
formed them as much as all this amounted to out 
of the King's former Offers j and therefore mo- 
ved that they might not be troubled with a fecond 
Reading.' And accordingly the King's Anfwer wag 
laid afide without even the Compliment of a Debate^ 
and the Commons came to the following Refolu- 
tions thereupon : 

1. ' That this Anfwer of the King to the Pro- The j> in ^ 9 A r._ 
po'iition prefented by the Commiflioners, concerning fwer concerning 
ihe Church, is not fatisfa6rory. 

2. * That after the Commiflioners (hall have 
concluded upon the Proportion that this (hall find 
them iiij they then do prefs the King for a full 

D 2 Anfwejf 




The Parliamentary HISTORY 

Anfwer to the Propofition prefented by them te 
him, concerning the Church : And that tney do- 
proceed in the Treaty, upon the reft of the Pro- 
pofitions, according to their former Inftru&ions.' 

Thefe Refolutions being fent up to the Lords, 
they gave their Concurrence to them, as dfo to the 
following Letter to the Commifiioners in the Ifle of 
lyight: 

My Lords and Gentlemen^ 

* "T^HE Lords and Commons have received your 
6 * Letter of the 9th of Oftober, 1648, and have 
c perufed and con&lered of the Papers inclofed - y 
c wherein you give them a full Account of your Pro- 

* ceedings in the Treaty upon the Propofitions pre- 
4 fented by you to the King, concerning the Church, 

* and the Propofition concerning the Militia j and 

* thereupon the Lords and Commons have patted 

* the Refolutions inclofed, which they defire you to 

* take Notice of, and to perufe, and acquaint his 

* Majefty with the fame. 

* They further take Notice of your prudent and 

* very faithful Management of thofe Affairs, and 

* have commanded us to return you their hearty 

* Thanks for the fame. This being all we have 
* in Command, we remain, 

My Lords and Gentlemen y 
Your Friends 



MANCHESTER, 

Speaker of the Honfe of Peerr^ 

WILLIAM LENTHALL, 

Speaker of the Commons Houfs 
in Parliament. 

Oft. 13. A Letter from the Commiflioners in the 
Ifle of Wight) with the Papers concerning the Pro- 
pofition touching Ireland were read. 

2 Ft* 



gf ENGLAND. 53 

far the Right Hon. the Earl of M A N c H E s T E R, AD. JA Car. I. 
Speak cr^of the Houfe of PEERS pro Tern pore. t ' r2 l _, 

My Lord i Newport, Off. II, 1648. 

< L 1 Incc our laflr of the gth Inft. we have received Ppw prefented 
5 his Majefty's final Anfwer to our Paper deli- S^n twdw 

* vered unto him upon the Propofition concerning ing the Propofi- 
' Ireland, the Copies whereof we have fent you here tion for Ireland. 

< inclofed. We have this Night put in a Paper 
upon the Proportions concerning raifing of Mo- 
' nies for Payment of public Debts, &?. and ihall 

* eive your Lordfhips a further Account of our 

* Proceedings as there (hall be Occafion. We 

' reft > ^ C ' [Sign'd by the Lords Commi/ionerf.} 

The PROPOSITION concerning ICELAND. 

Newport^ Oft. 9, 1648. 

* Vf7 E humbly defire your Majefty to give your 

Royal Aflent to the Propoiition enfuing, 
4 concerning Ireland. 

6 That an A& of Parliament be pafTed, to de- 
4 clare and make void the Ceflation of Ireland^ and 

* all Treaties and Conclufions of Peace, or any 
4 Articles thereupon with the Rebels, without 
4 Confcnt of both Houfes of Parliament ; and to 
4 fettle the Profecution of the War of Ireland in 
4 both Houfes of Parliament of England^ to be ma- 

* naged by them ; and your Majefty to aflift, and v 
4 to do no Adi to difcountenance or mqleft them 

therein. 

' That the Deputy, or Chief Governor or other 
4 Governors of Ireland^ and the Preftdents of the 

< feveral Provinces of that Kingdom, be nomina- 

* ted by both Houfes of the Parliament of Eng- 

* land) or, in the Intervals of Parliament, by fuch 
4 Committees of both Houfes of Parliament, as 

* bo v h Houfes of the Parliament of England ft\?\\ no- 
4 minate and appoint for that Purpofe : And that 
4 the Chancellor or Lord-Keeper, Lord-Treafurer, 
4 Commiffioners of the Great-Seal or Treafury, 

D 3 * Chan- 



54 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. z4 Car. I- * Chancellor of the Exchequer, Secretaries of State, 
iHS. ^ < Mafter of the Rolls, Judges of both Benches 

^ oaobtr ' an ^ Barons of the Exchequer, Vice-Treafu- 
' rer, and Treafurers at War of the Kingdom of 
' Ireland, be nominated and appointed by both 
' Houfes of the Parliament of England, to conti- 
' nue quamdiu fe bene gejjerint ; and, in the Intervals 
f of Parliament, by the forementioned Committees, 
' t to be approved or di fall owed by both Houfes at 
f 'their next fitting. And that all Grants of Offices, 

* Lands, Tenements, or Hereditaments, made or 

* pafled under the Great Seal of Ireland, unto any 

* Perfon or Perfons, Bodies Politic, or Corporate, 

* fmce the CefTation made in Ireland the i5th Day 
' of September, 1643, fhall be null and void; and 
? that all Honours and Titles conferred upon any 
e Perfon or Perfons in the faid Kingdom of Ire- 
' land, fmce the faid CefTation, {hall alfo be null 

* and void.' 

[Sign'd by the CommiJJidners.'} 

CHARLES R. New P rt > Oa - "> 'M- 
T7* JR. a final Anfwer to your Propofition of the. 
~* gth of October, concerning Ireland, his Majejly 
doth give his Confent thereunto as is defired ; the 'Time 
fir nominating of the Deputy and other Officers 
being limited for twenty Tears from the fir Jl of July, 
1648. 

Newport, Ott, u, 1648. 

c T T Aving received your Majefty's final Anfwer 
? 1 1 to our Paper of the qth of Oflober Inftant, 
' concerning Ireland, we {hall tranfmit the frme to 
' both Houfes of Parliament, and go on in the 
1 Treaty according to our Inftru&idns.' 
[Sign'd by the CommiJJioners.] 

Thus ends the Parliament's Fourth Propofition 
pf Peace : A fliort Digreffion to another Subjcdl 
cannot be difagreeable. The Reader may re- 
member a Charge preferred againft Major Rolph 



*/* ENGLAND. 55 

by Mr. O/borne, in June laft, for intending to An. 34 Car. J- 
murcler the King in CarlJbrooke-Caftle\ in Confer- ( _ * 48 ' t 
quince whereof the Houfe of Lords committed the 
Major to the Gatehoufe, and an Indictment was 
foon after preferred againft him at Wmchefter ; 
which not being found by the Grand Jury there, 
the Commons voted him the Sum of 150 /. as a 
Recompence for falfe Imprifonment, and com- 
mitted Mr. OJborne^ and Mr. Dtnv cet a Witnefs in A Charge ord- 
Support of the Charge againft the Major, to the d againfl Mr. 
Cuftody of the Serjeant at Arms. Mr. Oftoriu^^^ 
found Means to make his Efcape j but Mr. Dow-fa Roiph. 
cet having continued two Months in Confinement, 
he, this Day, (Otf. 13) petitioned the Houfe of 
Lords to be admitted to Bail j this they grantf 
ed, and fent a Mefiage, recommending it to the 
Commons to do the fame. Immediately after the 
reading this Petition, Serjeant IVylde flood up and x 
faid, Mr. Speaker, I have in my Hand the 
Draught of a Charge againft this Dowcet, which, 
in my Opinion, the Houfe ought rather to take 
Notice of than his Petition ; for I can atteft that 
Major Ralph was fufficiemly cleared upon his 
Trial at Winchefter, where I fat upon the Bench ; 
and I am fure many others in the Hqqfe, that 
were prefcnt there, can witnefs the fa.me : And 
therefore I conceive the flanderous Accufation a- 
gainft him having reflected exceedingly upon the 
Honour of this Houfe, upon the faithful Cojonel 
Hammond, and the whole Army, we can do no lefs 
than bring the Scandalixers to fome exemplary 
Puniftiment : But OJborne being gone, and Dow- 
ctt in hold, I defire that this Charge may be 
preferred againft him, and he brought to a fpeedy 
Trial.' 

In confequence of this Motion the Commons 
rejected Mr. Dowcefs Petition, and ordered Ser- 
jeant Wylde and Mr. Lijle (a) to bring in a Charge 
againft him on the i8th. 

D 4. Oft. 

(a) This Gentleman fat as an Afliftant to the Serjeant upo^ tie 
and afterwards was one of the King's Judges. 



5 6 7 'he Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 14 Car. I, Off. 14. A Letter from the Earl of 

" 6 ^ Si j (dated Off. 2, on board the St. George, riding be- 

k """ oaober. ^ ore Goree] to the Committee at Derby-Houfe, was 

read in the Houfe of Commons, fetting-forth, That 

Supplies ordered feveral Dutch Men of War continued to ride be- 

for the Fleet un- tw j x( . ^ j ^ revo } te( j Ships, then in Helvet- 

der the Earl or it i ' TV -i /- T*T 

Warwick, /"9 1 5 > an( * "*** having called a Council of v\ ar to 
advife of the beft Means to reduce thofe Ships to 
the Parliament's Obedience, the Refult thereof 
was to continue the Fleet in Goree Road ; that he 
hoped the Houfes would approve of his Proceed- 
ings therein, and fend a fpeedy Supply of Money 
and Provifions for the Fleet.' Upon reading this 
Letter Mr. AJhe faid, ' It is true indeed the Hol- 
A??z<fMen of War lie now betwixt the Lord -Ad- 
miral and the Prince's Fleet, but if it had pleafed 
him^ he might have done his Work before the 
Hollanders interpofed, had the revolted Ships been 
fet upon at his firft coming into that Road ; there- 
fore, fays he, Mr. Speaker, you may fend Money 
and Provifions ; but, for my Part, I believe you 
will never hear of any better Service.* How- 
ever, this Attack upon the Lord-Admiral was no 
farther pufh'd ; for the Houfe voted their Appro- 
bation of his Conduct j ordered Money and Pro- 
vifions for his Fleet ; and the Sequeftrations of 
Delinquents in North-Wales were appropriated for 
that Purpefe. 

Oft. 17. More Letters and Papers came from the 
Commiflioners, concerning the Treaty, which were 
read. 

for the Right Hon. EDWARD Earl of M A N c H E- 
STER, Speaker of the Houfe of PEERS pro 
Tempore. 

My Lord, Nnuport, Qtt. 14, 1648. 

' \\7 ^ herewith prefent your Lordmip with an 
papsrs relating < VV Account of our Proceedings upon the 
tothePropofi- < p ropo f lt j ons concerning public Debts, Peers, &c. 

tions about pub- ^ r L n-i r un 

iic Debts an( i ' or t"6 Particuhu's we refer to the 1 apers in- 

' clofed. 

< We 



^ENGLAND. 57 

< We delivered Yeftemight a Paper upon the An '^^" 

* Proportions concerning Delinquents, herewith t v * J 
1 alfo fent ; and fo we remain, &c.' Cuoher. 

[Signd by the Lords Commijfioners.'] 

The PROPOSITION concerning Payment of PUBLIC 
% DEBTS and DAMAGES. 

Newport, Off. 12, 1648. 

' \\7 ^ num bly defire that your Majefty will 
' VV give your Royal Aflent to fuch A 61 or 
' Ats for raifing of Monies for the Payment and . . 
' fatisfying of the public Debts and Damages of 
' the Kingdom, and other public Ufes, as (hall 
' hereafter be agreed on by both Houfes of Parlia- 
' ment ; and that if the King doth not give his 
' AfTent thereunto, then it being done by both 
' Houfes of Parliament, the fame {hall be as valid, 
' to all Intents and Purpofes, as if the Royal AfleAt 
* had been given thereunto.' 

[Sign'd by all the CommiJJioners,'] 

CHARLES R. New P ort > Oa - "> 'M- 
anfiver to your Proportion of the nth of Oc- 

tober, concerning Public Debts, &c. his Majejly 
doth confent to your Proportion as is defired, the Aft 
or dfls extending only to Debts or Damages, and pub- 
lic Ufes incurred and pafs'd, and to be agreed by both 
Houfes within twelve Months^ , 

The COMMISSIONERS PAPER, preffing for a more 
explicit ANSWER. 

Newport, Qtl. 12, 1648. 

* VX7 Hereas by our Paper of the nth of Ofto- 

ber, it is humbly defired your Majefty will 
' give your Aflent to fuch A& or A#s for raifmg 
Monies for the Payment of public Debts and 
Damages of the Kingdom, and other public Ufes, 

* as (hall hereafter be agreed on by both Houfes 
< of Parliament 5 and that if the Royal Afll-nt be 



Odober 



58 The Parliamentary H I s T o R V 

An. 2+ Car. i. < not thereto given, yet being done by the Houfesj 
c it fhaii be as valid, to all intents and Purpofes. 
' Your Majefty, in your Anfwer now given to 

* it is pkafed to limit your Confent only for fucb 

* Debts and Damages , and puhlic Ufes as are already 

* incurred and paji, and they to be agreed upon by the 
' Houfes within twelve Months ; whjch comes fhort 

* of the the Defires of the two Houfes, that look 
' to the future as well as the Time paft. And you 

* are likewife pleafed to reftrain it to twclvq 

* Months for their agreeing upon thofe Debts, Da- 
' mages, and public Ufes. We therefore humbly 
4 crave your Anfwer to the aforefaid Paper as it i$ 

* there dcfired.' r{ ,- , , , , ./r , 

[Sign a by the Commijjioners.] 

The KING'S FINAL ANSWER. 
CHARLES R. Newport, Oa. 12, 1648. 

J?OR a final Anfwer to you as to your Prcpofition of 
* the nth of October, concerning pubfif Debts^ 
&c. and to your Paper of the I2th concerning the. 
fame : His Majejly doth confent to your P opofition 
as is dsfired^ Jo as the Aft or Atts be agreed on,, and 
prefented within the Space of two Tears, and extend only 
to Debt*) Damages, andfublic Ufes incurred by that 



Making 
e-cation 



Newport, Oft. 12, 1648. 

c T "I Aving received your Majefty's final Anfwer 
c I 1 to our Papers of the nth and 12th of Oftober 

* Inftant, concerning the Payment of Public Debts, 
6 , &c. we fhall tranfmit the fame to both Houfes of 
' Parliament, and go on with the Treaty according 

* to our Inftru&ions.' 

' [Sign'd b\- the Commijfioners.] 

ffle PROPOSITION for making void dl Honours 
conferred fmce May 21, 1642. 

Newport 12, 1648. 

E do humbly defire your Majefty's Con- 
fent to the Propontion enfuing, That by 
all Peers made fmce the Day 
that 



the < 



< "\1/ 

t. Y/y 



of E N G L A N D. 59 

* that Edward Lord Littleton, then Lord-Keepqr An. 14 Car. ! 
f of the Great Seal, deferted the Parliament, and t| _ j .'''* 8 ' j 

* that the faid Great Seal was furreptitioufly con- oaooer." 

* veyed away from the Parliament, (being the 2ift 

* Day of May 1642) and who mall be hereafter 

* made, mall not fit or vote in th,e Parliament of 
' England, without Confent of both Houfes of 
' Parliament ; and that all Honours and Titles con- 
ferred on any without Confent of both Houfqs 
4 of Parliament fmce the 2Oth of May 1642, (be r 

* ing the Day that both Houfes declared, That the 

* King, feduced by evil Council, intended to raiJJs 

* War again/} the Parliament) be declared null and 

[Signed by the CommiJ/ioners.] 

CHARLES R. Newport, Oft. 13, 1648. 

TN anfwer to your Proportion of the i2th of Oc- 
tober, concerning Peers, &c. his Majejly doth con* 
Jent thereunto as is defired* 

Newport, Ofl. 13, 1648. 

* t_J Aving received your Majefty's Paper of the 
'11 1 3th Inftant, in Anfwer to the Propofition 
' prefented to your Majefty in our Paper of the i2th, 
concerning Peers, &c. wherein your Majefty is 

* pleafed to declare that you do confent thereunto 
as is defired, we mall tranfmit the fame to both 
Houfes of Parliament, and go on in the Treaty 
' according to our Inftruclions. 

[Sign'd by the CommiJJionen.'] 

The PROPOSITION concerning DELINQUENTS. 
Newport, Off, 13, 1648. 
* \T7 E humbly defire your Majefty to give your And about De- 

< W Royal Aflent to the Propofitions enfuing I in 1 uentt - 
' concerning Delinquents : That an A61 be pafled 

< concerning Delinquents, as followeth : 

FIRST BRANCH. 

' That the Perfonsjwho mall expec*l no Pardon be 
' oaly thefe following ; Rupert and Maurice, Count 

* Palatine^ 



60 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 4 Car. I. < palatines of the Rhine ; James Earl of Derby ; 

^ *' _, 'loin Earl of Sri/lol; Wihiam Earl of Newcastle ; 
Oftober. * Francis Lord Cottington\ George Lord Digby \ 
Mattew Wren, Bifhop of /j ; Sir .Rs&rf Ar^A, 
Knight ; Dr. Bramball, Biihop of Dry ; Sir 
4 William Widdrington ; Col. George Goring ; /&*- 
' ry Jermyn, Efq ; Sir #rt//>6 Hopton ; Sir J^ 5y- 
' ;-0 j Sir Francis Doddirgton; Sir y<? Strong*- 
nwyj ; Mr. Endimion Porter ; Sir George Rod- 

* diff"e\ Sir Marmaduke Langdale ; Henry Vaugl>- 
( an, Efq; now called Sir Henry Vaughan\ Sir 

* Francis Jf/indetanke ; Sir Richard Greenville', 
' Mr. Edward Hide*, now called Sir Edward Hide ; 
Sir y^rt Marley-y Sir Nicholas Cole ; Sir Thomas 
Riddel^ jun. Sir T^An Cohpeper ; Mr. Richard 

* L/^, now called Sir Richard Lloyd ; Mr. David 
' Jenkins ; Sir George Strode ; George Carter et, 
Efq ; now call'd Sir George Carteret i Sir Charles 

* Dallifon^ Knt. Richard Lane, Efq ; now called 
'Sir Richard Lane ; 5/r Edward Nicholas ; 'John 
Afoburnbam, Efq ; Sir Edward Herbert, Knt. 
< his Majcfty's Attorney-General. And all Papifts 

* and Popifh Recufants, who hive been, now are, 
or fhall be actually in Arms, or voluntarily af- 
' fifting againft the Parliament of E r gland -, and 

* by Name, the Marquis of Wmton ; Edward Earl 

f 



* of Worcejler ; Lord Brttdenell j 

6 Efq ; Lord Arundell of War dour : Sir Francis How- 

* ard; Sir JaAn IVinter \ Sir CA<?r/ 5wVA j Sir 
%^ Pr^n ; Sir &7/Z/ Brw/t ; Lord >fcdfer, 

* Earl of Caftlehaven in the Kingdom of Ireland ; 
William Shelden, of 5^/y, Efq; Sir //ry fi^- 

< dixgfield. And all Perfons who have had any 

* Hand in the pjotting, defigning, or afiifting the 

* Rebellion of Ireland except fuch Perfons who, 

* having only aflifted the faid Rebellion, have ren- 

< dered themfelves, or come in to the Parliament 
' of England. 

SECOND BRANCH. 

' That Humphrey Bennet, Efq ; Sir Edward 
'- Ford; Sir Jvha P tnruddvck -, Sir George Vaugban\ 



f ENGLAND. 61 

4 Sir John Weld\ Henry Lyngen Efq ; Sir Henry An. 24 Car. I. 

* Fletcher; Sir Richard Mm/hull; Laurence Hal- ^ '* 4 *' 
'Jiead; John Denham, Efq; Sir Robert Lee ; Sir 

4 John rate; "John A eland; Edmund IVindham, 
4 Efq ; Sir John Fitzherbert ; Sir Edward Law- 

* rence; Sir Ralph Dutton; Sir Edward H/a!dgrave $ 
4 Sir Edward Bijhop ; Sir William Rujel, of 7^>r- 
' cefterjhire ; Thomas Lee, of Adlington^ Ffq ; Sir 
7^ Girlington; Sir /W Afo/j Sir 
'Thorold; Sir Edward Hu/ey ; Sir 

' dfc/, y^n. Sir Philip Muf grave ; Sir 

* of Nottinghamjhirc; Sir Robert Owfey ; Sir John 
' Many; Sir Edmond Fortefcue*, Peter St. /////, Efq; 
Sir 7&WKW r/7^y ; Sir //^ry Griffith > Mi- 

* cA^^/ Warton^ Efq ; Sir //^ry ^//^r ; Mr. 
4 George Benyon, now call'd Sir George Benyon ; 

* Lord Cholmley ; Sir Thomas Afton ; Sir Lewis 
c Divef ; Sir P^/^r OJborne ; Samuel Thornton^ Efq ; 

* Sir '/W-"* Z-r<7f ; y^ B'aney^ Efq ; Sir Thomas 
1 Cheddle; Sir Afa^Aw &*/> ; //^ I%J, Efq ; 
4 Sir Nicholas Crifpe ; and Sir P^ter Ricaut, be re- 

* moved from his Majefty's Councils, and be re- 
4 {trained from coming within the Verge of the 

* Court : And that they may not, without the Con- 
4 fent of both Houfes of the Parliament of England, 
4 bear any Oifice, or have any Employment con- 
4 cerning the State or Commonwealth. And in 
4 cafe any of them {hall offend therein, to be guilty 

* of High Treafon, and incapable of any Pardon 
4 from his Majefty ; and their Eltates to be difpo- 

* fed of as both Houfes of the Parliament of Eng-, 
4 land {hall think fit. And that one full third Part 
' thereof, upon full Value of the Eftates of the 
4 Perfons aforefaid, made incapable of Employment 
4 as aforefaid, be employed for the Payment of pub- 
4 lie Debts and Damages. 

4 And that the late Members, or any who pre- 

* tended themfelves late Members of either Houfe 
' of Parliament, who have not only deferted the Par- 
4 liament, but have alfo fat in the unlawful AfTem- 
4 bly at Oxford^ called or pretended by fome to be 
4 a Piiriiament, and voted the Kingdom of Eng- 



62 'The Parliamentary HISTORY 

Ah. 24 Car. I. e land Traitors, and have not voluntarily rendered 

t l6 * 8 ' J themfelves before the laft of Ottober, 1644, be 

Oftober. ' removed from his Majefty's Councils, and be re- 

' ftrained from coming within the Verge of the 

* Court ; and that they may notj without Advice 

* and Confent of the Kingdom of England, bear 

* any Office, or have any Employment concerning 

* the State or Commonwealth : And in cafe any 

* of them fhall offend therein, to be guilty of High 

* Treafon, and incapable of any Pardon by his 

' Majefty, and their Eftates to be difpofed of as * 
' tioth Houfes of Parliament in England {hall think 
'fit. 

* And that the late Members, or any who pre- 

* tended themfelves Members of either Houfe of 
c Parliament, who have fat in the unlawful Affcm- 
4 bly at Oxford, called or pretended by fome to be 

* a Parliament, and have not voluntarily rendered 

* themfelves before the laft of Ofiober, 1644, be re- 

* moved from his Majefty's Councils, and reftrain- 

* ed from coming within the Verge of the Court ; 
4 and that they may not, without Advice and Con- 

* fent of both Houfes of Parliament, bear any Of- 
' fice, or have any Employment concerning the 

* State or Commonwealth : And in cafe any of 

* them {hall offend therein, to be guilty of High 

* Treafon, and incapable of any Pardon from his 

* Majefty, and their Eftates to be difpofed of as both 
4 Houfes of the Parliament of England {hall think 
fit. 

4 And that the late Members, or any who pre- 
' tended themfelves Members of either Houfe of 
4 Parliament, who have deferted the Parliament, 
' and adhered to the Enemies thereof, and have not 

* voluntarily rendered themfelves before the laft of 

* Ofiober, 1644, be removed from his Majefty's 
4 Councils, and be reftrained from coming within 
' the Verge of the Court j and that they may not, 
' without the Advice and Confent of both Houfes 

* of Parliament, bear any Office, or have any Em- 
' ployment concerning the State or Common- 

* wealth : And. in cafe any of them {hall offend 

4 therein y^ 



of E N G L A N D. 63 

* therein, to be guilty of High Treafon, and inca- A " 24 c r - 

* pable of any Pardon from his Majefty, and thf ir 

* Eftates to be difpofed of as both Houfes of Par- 

* liament in England fhall think fit. 

' And that all Judges and Officers towards the 

* Law, Common or Civil, who have deferted the 

* Parliament, and adhered to the Enemies thereof, 
' be incapable of any Place of Judicature, or Office 

* towards the Law, Common or Civil : And that 

* all Serjeants, Counfellors, and Attornies, Doctors, 
6 Advocates, and Proctors of the Law, Common 

* or Civil, who have deferted the Parliament, and 
' adhered to the Enemies thereof, be incapable of 
''any Practice in the Law, Common or Civil, ei- 
' ther in public or private ; and fhall not be capable 

* of any Preferment or Employment in the Com- 

* monwealth, without the Advice and Confent of 

* both Houfes of Parliament. And that no Bifhop or 

* Clergyman, no Mafter or Fellow of any College 
or Hall in either of the Univerfities, or elfewhere, 
' or any Mafter of School or Hofpital, or any Eccle- 

* fiaftical Perfon, who hath deferted the Parliament, 
6 and adhered to the Enemies thereof, fhall hold or 

* enjoy, or be capable of any Preferment or Em- 
' ployment in Church or Commonwealth : But all 

* their faid feveral Preferments, Places, and Pro- 
' motions fhill be utterly void as if they were na- 

* turally dead ; nor fhall they otherwife ufe their 

* Functions of the Miniftry, without the Advice 

* and Confent of both Houies of Parliament; pro- 

* vided that no Lapfe fhall incur by fuch Vacancy 

* untill fix Months paft after Notice thereof. 

THIRD BRANCH. 

* That all Perfons who have been actually in 

* Arms againft the Parliament, or have counfelled 

* or voluntarily affifted the Enemies thereof, be 

* difabled to be Sheriffs, Juftices of the Peace, 

* Mayors, or other Head-Officers of any City or 
' Corporation, Commiffioners of Oyer and Termi- 

* ner, or to fit or ferve as Members or Afliftants 

'iA 



64 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. I. < j n either of the Houfes of Parliament, or to have 
* 4 , c any Military Employment in this Kingdom, with- 
' out tne Confent of both Houfes of Parliament. 

FOURTH BRANCH. 
c The Perfons of all others to be free of all per- 
' fonal Cenfure, notwithftanding any AcT: or any 
' Thing done in or concerning, this War, they ta- 

* king the Covenant. 

FIFTH BRANCH. 

* The Eftates of thofe Perfons excepted in the 
c Firft Branch, and the Eftates of Edward Lord 
c Littleton, and of William Laud, late Archbifhop 
' of Canterbury^ to pay public Debts and Da- 
' mages. 

SIXTH BRANCH. 

' That two full Parts in three to be divided of alj 
' the Eftates of the late Members of either Houfe of 

* Parliament, who have not only deferted the Par- 

* liament, but have alfo voted the Kingdom of 
' England Traitors, and have not rendered them- 
' felves before the nrft of December ^ 1645, (hall be 

* taken and employed for the Payment of the pub- 

* lie Debts and Damages of the Kingdom. 

' And that two full Parts in three to be divided 
' of the Eftates of fuch late Members of either 

* Houfe of Parliament as fat in the unlawful Af- 
' fembly at Oxford^ and fhall not have rendered 
' themfelves before the firft of December ', 1645, 

* fhall be taken and employed for the Payment of 
' the public Debts and Damages of the Kingdom. 

4 And that one full Moiety of the Eftates of fuch 

* Perfons, late Members of either of the Houfes of 

* Parliament, who have deferted the Parliament, 

* and adhered to the Enemies thereof, and fhall not 

* have rendered themfelves before the firft of De- 
' cember^ 1645, fhall be taken and employed for 
' the Payment of the public Debts and Damages of 
4 the Kingdom. 

6 That a full third Part of the Value of the 

* Eftates of all Judges and Officers towards the 

'Law 



cf ENGLAND. 6$ 

Law, Common or Civil, and of all Serjeants, An. 24 Car. r. 
Counfellors, and Attornies, Doctors, Advocates, t l6 4 8 ' 
and Pro&orsof the Law, Common or Civil ; and 
of all Bifhops, Clergymen, Matters and Fellows 
of any Colleg'e or Hall, in eirher of the Univer- 
fities, or elfewhere ; and of all Mailers of Schools 
or Hofpitals ; and of all Ecclefiaftical Perfons 
who have deferted the Parliament, dnd adhered 
to the Enemies thereof, and have not rendered 
themfelves to the Parliament before the firft of 
December, 1645, (hall be taken and employed fct 
the Payment of the public Debts and Damages of 
the Kingdom. 

And that a full fixth Part of the full Value of 
the Eftates of the Perfons excepted in the third 
Branch, concerning fuch as have been actually in 
Arms againft the Parliament, or have counielied, 
or voluntarily affifted the Enemies thereof, and 
are difabled according to the faid Branch, be taken ' 
and employed for the Payment of the public Debts 
and Damages of the Kingdom. 

SEVENTH BRANCH. 
c That the Perfons and Eftates of all common 
' Soldiers, and others of this Kingdom of Eng- 

* land, who, in Lands and Goods, be not worth 

* 200 /. Sterling, be at Liberty, and difcharged. 

EIGHTH BRANCH. 
That the firft of May laft, is now the Day li- 
4 mitted for the Perfons to come in that are compri- 
' fed within the former Branches. Provided .that 

* all and every the Delinquents, which by or ac- 
' cording to the feveral and refpecYive Ordinances 

* or Orders, made by both or either of the Houfes of 

* Parliament, on or before the 24th Day of Aprtl^ 
'* 1647, are to be admitted to make their Fines and 

' Compofitions under the Rates and Proportions of 
' the Branches aforefaid, (hall, according to the faid 

* Ordinances and Orders refpe&ively, be thereunto 

* admitted. And farther alib, that no Perfon or 

VOL. XVIII. E * Pe:fons 



66 *Tke Parliamentary H i s f b R V" 

An. 23 Car. I. < Perfons whatfoever (except fuch Papifts as ha- 
' in & ^ een ' n Arms, or voluntarily affifted againfl 
' tne P arnarnent have, by concealing their Qua- 

* Jityj procured their Admiffion to Compofition) 
' which have already compounded, or fhall here- 

* after compound, and be thereunto admitted by 
' both Houfes of Parliament, at any of the Rates 
'.and Proportions aforefaid, or under, respectively, 
' ihall be put to pay any other Fine than they 
' have, or fhall refpe&ively fo compound for (ex- 
' cept for fuch Effates, or fuch Part of their Eftate? , 

* and for fuch Values thereof i efpeclively as have 
' been, or (hall be concealed or omitted in the Par- 

* ticulars- whereupon they compound ;) and that 

* all and every of them fhafl have thereupon their 
1 Pardons, in fuch Maimer and Form as is agreed 
' by both Houfes- of Parliament. 

' And that an Aft. be pafled, whereby the Debts 

* of the Kingdom, and the Perfons of Delinquents* 

* and the Value of their Eftates may be known ^ 

* and which Aft (hall appoint in whaf Manner the 

* ConnYcatkms and Proportions before-mentioned 

* may be levied and applied to the Difc:.arge of the 

* faid Engagements.' 

fry ths 



In the Commons 'Vournak of this Dlay, Tuefdaf* 

1 nc Commons, . /- i i /* n *^*i i 

arthe Requeftof Oftooer 17, we nnd the nrlt I rung done was to 

the Speaker, re- refolve, That at the rifmgofthe Houfe'they would 

forlx^fl "" 1 adjourn to the next Monday : and that the Lords 

be acquainted with that Refolution. ------- Thofe 

Authorities do not affiga any Reafon for- fo long an 
Adjournment: But a Contemporary Writer (h}y 
1 whofe Account of the Debates of thefe Times co- 
incides very minutely with the Votes and Rcfolu- 
tions of the Houfe as recorded in their Jcarnah^ 
informs us, ' That this was a Project of tiie Inde- 
pendent Party tp delay the Treaty, in which the 
Speaker himfelf was to be the prime A&or ; 
and that in order thereto, prefently after he had 

taken 

(k) Mtrwrivt Pragmaticus, No.. yo 



of ENGLAND. 

taken the Chairj and the Houfe being yet very A 
thin, he ftood up and faid, ' Gentlemen, I have 
certain Infirmities growing upon me, for Preven- 
tion whereof I dcfire to have foine Ti;ne for the 
taking of Phyfic ; and therefore make it my ear- 
neft Dcfire that you would be pleafed to adjourn 
the Houfe till Monday next.' Moft of the Mem- 
bers then prefenc being in the Secret, there was a 
general Cry for an Adjournment; But they were 
iropt a little in their Career by others ; who, con- 
fidently that Mr. Speaker had not been much trou- 
bled with Melancholy fince General Cromwell 
comforted him by a Letter about his Victory over 
the Scott) pleaded, ' That Mr. Speaker, G.od be 
blefs'd, look'd very well and healthy of late ; and 
they hop'd his Maladies were not rhore prefling 
than the Affairs of the Public ; urging, withal!, 
How great an Inconvenience an Adjournment muft 
needs be, in this Inftant of a Treaty^ whereof all 
Tranfactions were to be reported continually to 
the Houfe ; fo that their not fitting for a Week 
might be extremely prejudicial to the fpeedy Pro- 
grefs of the Treaty^ and be a Meahs to defeat the 
Hopes and Expectations of the whole Kingdom, 
if Matters were not concluded in the forty Days 
alloted. Ami therefore they begg'd of Mr. Speaker 
to difpence a little with his own Occafions, rathcf 
than bring fo great a Hazard upon the Treaty* 
Notwithftandirtg which it was carried for an Ad- 
journment, and ordered that a Meflage be fent to 
the Houfe of Lords to defirc them to adjourn to the 
fame Time^ 

The Lords were greatly furpfized at this Mef- 
fage 5 but, apprehending the Defign, iriftead of gi- 
ving their Concurrence to this Adjournment, fenC 
Serjeant Finch and Dr. Heath to dcfire a prefent 
Conference with the Commons about it. By this 
Time that Houfe began to fill, and the Motion 
for a prefent Conference was agreed to. Soon af- 
ter Mr. Swynfen reported, That the Lords look 
upon the Treaty with the Kin? to be a Matter of 
E 2 th* 




An. 24 Car. 
1648. 



68 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

Tt the high^fl Concernment to the Kingdom ; that 
their fitting at this Time was abfolutely neceflary 
Odtober. for the Affiftance of their Commiilioners, by re- 
turning the Senfe of the Houfes upon fuch Mat- 
ters as fnould be communicated to them from the 
Me of Wight ; that fo long an Adjournment muft 
obftiu6l the Prcgrefs of the Treacy; and there- 
fore th?y denred the Commons would forbear to 
adjourn.' Upon this a Member ftood up and ob- 
jected, * That the Lords did not give this Anfwer 
of themftlves, but had others to put it into their 
Mouths.' He laid further, c Mr. Speaker, this 
Anfwer of the Lords is Brain of our Brain, for 
they have plowed with our Keifer", fome among 
ourfelves having intruded them what to fay, and 
how to behave thcmfelves touching this Adjourn- 
ment.' He was feconded by Sir Thomas IProth^ 
who faid, ' Mr. Speaker, I conceive we have 
Power of adjourning our own Houfe, without afk- 
ing Leave of the Lords ; and therefore I think we 
fhould do well to take this Occafion to vindicate 
our own Authority, as not depending upon the 
Lords, and ftand to this Morning's Vote for an 
Adjournment till Monday.' 

To this a Member anfwered, ' I muft confefs, 
Mr. Speaker, the Houfe hath voted this Day to 
adjourn, and that it is contrary to iiie Courfe of 
Parliament for any Member to move for the re- 
calling of a Vote ; yet I am not without a Precedent 
for it, and that a very late one too; for, Mr. 
Speaker, you may remember that when the Houfe 
had refolved, according to the King's Duiie by 
Letter, that nothing concluded in part fhould be 
binding, unlefs the whole were agreed upon by 
Treaty; yet, within two Days after this Vote was 
parTed, you gave Leave to Mr. Natbaniael Stephens^ 
Mr, Lifte^ and others, (though tb/_y were cried 
down) to impugn it ; and therefore 1 defire to take 
the fame Liberty to move, That this Refolution 
for adjourning may be recalled, it' refte&i 
much, in my Conceit, upon the Honour of the 

Houfe, 



of E N G L A N D. 69 

Houfe, both in the Manner of obtaining this Vote, An. 24 Car. i 

it being parted in a thin Houfe, before we were ^ f 

well come together ; and alfo in the Nature of it, oftober. 
which muft needs diftnrb the Treaty, and bring a 
Scandal upon us in the Opinion of the People, as 
if we deiired no good Succefs of it, when we thus 
endeavoured to hinder its Progrefs.' 

To this it was replied, ' That they had no In- 
tent, in adjourning, to hinder the Progrefs of the 
Treaty, but only to fatisfy the Defire of Mr. 
Speaker, who had Occafion to take Phyfic ; and 
God forbid but the Houfe fliould yield to his Re- 
queft upon fofieceiTary an Occafion.' 

The Speaker, now finding the whole Blame of 
this Adjournment like to fall upon hitpfelf, deter- 
mined to make a handfome Retreat ; and thereupon 
flood up and faid, ' That, perceiving there were 
many Jealoiifies raifed about his Defire of adjourn- 
ing the Houfe only for his Health's Sake, rather 
than give Offence he was com en t to run the Ha- ' 

zard of his Life, and fpend it in the Service of 
i n i f > TT i T>L i But revoke that 

the Public. Hereupon it was agreed, That the Refolution by 

Refolution of Adjournment pafs'd in the Morning, Defire of the 
be revoked. Lords - 

It may be remembered that, under the Proceed- Account of Ge- 
ingsofthis Month, we gave the Copy of a Letter neraicromwell's 
from Lieutenant-General Cromwell to the Speaker ?f. cc P tlo ? at ' 
of the Houfe of Commons, dated Berwick, Ofl. 2, 
fignifying, inter alia, That having fome Things 
to deiirs of the Committee of Eftates of Scotland, 
he intended to fet out that Day for Edinburgh. 
This he did accordingly in great Pomp, attended 
by the Lord Elchoe, Lodowick Lejley^ the. late Go- 
vernor of Berwick, and three Regiments of Horfe 
of his own Army. About three Miles before he 
reached that City he was met by the Earl of Leven, 
the Lord Kirkcudbright, and Major-General Hoi" 
borne, who conducted him to the Earl of Murray's 
Houie in the Canongate, which was provided tor 
his Reception, where he had a Guard of Soldiers 
E 3 placed 



jo *Fbe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 23 Car. I. placed at the Gate Night and Day. He arrived 

*- l6 !, 4 -.-^ > * here on thc 4 th ' upon Notice w nere f the Lord- 
QftobeJ. Chancellor Loudon, the Marquis of Argyle^ the 
Earl of Lfvea t the Earl of Cajfils, Lord Burle^ 
Lord frari/lon t and many other Perfons of Quality, 
came to compliment him. The next Day a De- 
putation being fent to him from the Committee of 
Eftates, to know what he had to communicate, he 
delivered to them the following Paper : 

Right Honour able ^ Off. 5, 1648. 

APaperpre- < ir Sha u be eyer read tf) bear Witnefs of your 
fented by him /-IT in r i / i TV- i i 

to the Commit- Lordihips I 1 orwardnefs to ao Right to the 
tec of Eftates j ' Kingdom of England, in reftorina; the Garrifons 

* of Berwick and Carlijle ; and having received fa 
' good a Pledge of your Refolutions to maintain 
' Amity and a good Underftanding between the 

* Kingdoms of England and Scotland^ it makes me 

* not to doubt but that your Lordfhips will fur- 
4 ther grant what, in Juftice an3 Reaibn, may be 
' demanded. 

* I can affure your Lordfhips that the Kingdom 
8 of England did forefee that wfcked Deiign of the 
1 Malignahts in Scotland, to break all Engagements 

* of Faith and Honefty between the Nations, and 
6 to take from the Kingdom of England the Towns 

* of Berwidi' and Carlijle ; and altho' they could 
.' have prevented the Lofs of thcfe confiderable 

* Towns, without Breach of the Treaty, by lay- 

* ing Forces clofe unto them ; yet fuch was the 

* Tendernefs of the Parliament of England not to 

* give the leaft Sufpicion of a Breach with the 
6 Kingdom of Scotland, that they did forbear to 

* do any Thing therein. It is not unknown to 
' your Lordfhips, when the Malignants had got- 
' ten the Power and poflefied themfelves of thefc 
' Towns, how they protected and employed our 
6 ErgliJJ} Malignants, tho', demanded by our Par- 
4 liament; and with what Violence and unheard- 

* of Cruelties they raifed an Army, began a War, 

* and invaded the Kingdom of England ; and en- 

' deavoureJj 



cf ENGLAND. 71 

* deavoured, to the utmoft of their Power, to en- An< 2 3 Car - 

* ga^e both Kingdoms in a perpetual Quarrel ; v '- 7' 

* and what Biood they have fpilt in our Kingdom, odtober, 

* and what great Lofs and Prejudice was brought 
' upon our Nation, even to the endangering the 
' total Ruin thereof: And although God did, by a 
' moft mighty and ftrong Hand, and that in a won- 
' derful Manner, deftroy their Defigns, yet it is 
f clearly apparent that the fame ill affe&ed Spirit 

* ftills remains; and that there are divers Perfons 
f of great Quality and Power, who were either 

* the Contrivers, Actors, or Abettors of the late 

* unjuft War made upon the Kingdom of England ; 
' who now, in Scotland, undoubtedly do wait for all 

* Advantages and Opportunities to raife Difiention 
' and Divifion between the Nations. 

' Now, forafmuch as I am commanded to pro- 

* fecute the remaining Part of the Army that in- 
1 vaded the Kingdom of England, wherefoever it 
c (hould go, to prevent the like Miferies ; and con- 

4 fidering that divers of that Army are retired into 

* Scotland, and that fome of the Heads of thpfe 

* Malignants are raifmg new Forces in Scotland 
' to carry on the fame D.efign, and that they will 
' certainly be ready to do the like upon all Occa- 

* (ions of Advantage : \w\ forafmuch as the King- 

* dom of England, hath lately received 3 great Da- 
mage by the Failing of the Kingdom of Scotland, 
i in not fuppref&ng Malignants and Incendiaries as 
^ they ought to have done ; and by fufFering fuch 

* Perfons to be put into Places of Truft in the 
^ Kingdom, who, by their Intereft in the Parlia- 
*. ment and Countries, brought the Kingdom of 

* Scotland, fo fcir as they could, by an unjuft En- 

* gagement, to invade and make War upon their 

* Brethren of England: My Lords, I hold myfelf 
obliged, in Profecution of my Duty and Inftruc- 
f tions, to dc-mund that your Lprdfhips will give 

* Aifarance, in the Name of the Kingdom of 

* Scotland, that you will not admit or fuffer any 

5 who have been active in, or conferring to, the 

E - * /"aid 



164.3. 

v 

Odober. 



72 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 34 Car. T. e faid Engagement againft England^ or have lately 
' been in Arms, at Stirling or elfewhere, in the 
' Maintenance of that Engagement, to be employ- 

* ed in any public Place or Truft whatfoever; that 

* thereby they may be difabled from renewing or 
' reinforcing their former Engagement. And this 
' is the leaft Security Lean demand. 

' My Lords, I have received an Order from 

* both Houfes of the Parliament of England, which 
' I hold fit to communicate to your Lcrdfhips, 
' whereby you will underftand the Readinefs of 

* the Kingdom of England to aflift you who were 
' Diflenters from the Invafion : And I doubt not but 
4 your Lordfhips will be as ready to give fuch fur- 
' ther Satisfaction, as they in their Wifdoms fhall 
e find Caufe to defire.' 

O. CROMWELL. 

In Return to this Paper the fame Deputation 
brought back the following Anfwer : 

For the Han, Lieutenant-General CROMWELL. 

' SIR, Oa. 6. 1648. 



Jaeir Anfwer. 



T T Aving confidered your Letter, of the 5th 
' J. Inftant, we return you this Anfwer ; That 

* as we did diffent from, and proteft againft, the 
'taking of the Towns of Berwick and CflrliJIe, 
*. and likewife againft the late Engagement, againft 
' England', and as we did rife in Arms againft the 

* Contrivers and Abetters of that Engagement, and 

* have been forward in ufmg our beft Endeavours 
' for reftoring your Garrifons ; fo, before the Re- 
' ceipt of yours, we had pafled feme Acls upon 

* the 22d of September laft, and the 4111 of this 

* Month ; and had refolved to put fortii a Bec'la- 
' ration to the Kingdom, which we do iikcwife 

* communicate unto you, by which you will per- 

* ceive that it hath been our earneft Care, and real 
' Endeavour, to do the fame Things which you 

* demand in your Letter. 

' In the large Treaty betwixt the Kingdoms, 

< Anno 1641, "we did defire that honeft'Men of 

" * - ' ' known 



of ENGLAND. 

* known Integrity and Ability might be employed 

* in the Places of greateft Truft and Power within ^ 
4 this Kingdom ; and fad Experience hath taught 

4 us that no Bonds nor Ties between the King- 

* doms, even the ftriilteft of Covenants or Treaties, 

* can reftrain Men of corrupt Minds and Judg- 

* ments ; but that, whenever they find an Oppof- 
4 tunity, they will be ready to purfue their own linds 
1 and Defigns, to the Hazard of the Peace, and 

* breaking the Union between the Kingdoms. 

* In the Year 1643, when fome Members of 
4 both Houfes, aflembled at Oxford, had voted both 
4 Kingdoms Traitors, we did defire from the Ho- 
4 nourable Houfes, and it was granted, and mu- 
' tually agreed upon in the Proportions of both 
4 Kingdoms, presented to the King's Majefty at 

* Oxford, That the Members of either Houfe of 

* Parliament, who had not only defertcd the Par- 
4 liair.'ent, but alfo voted both Kingdoms Traitors, 

* fhould be removed from his Majefty's Councils, 
' and be reftrained from coming within the Verge 

* of the Court ; and that they fhould not, without 

* the Advice and Confent of both Kingdoms, bear 

* any Office, or have any Employment, concerning 

* the State or Commonwealth ; and we cannot denjr 

* but your Demand of Aflurance from this King- 

* dom is reafonable, that thofe who have been ac- 
4 tive in, or confenting to, the late unlawful En- 

* gagement againft England, be not employed in 

* any public Place or Truft whatfoever ; wherefore 
' we do accept of this your Deftre as a real Tefti- 
4 mony of your Refpecl to this Kingdom, and of 
4 your Intentions to preferve the Uriion betwixt the 

* Kingdoms : And we do hereby engage ourfelves, 
4 in the Name of the Kingdom of Scotland, to erri- 

* ploy our utmoft Endeavours that none who have 
4 been a&ive in, or confenting to, the faid Engage- 
4 ment againft England, or have lately been in Arms, 
4 at Stirling or elfewhere, in Maintenance or Pur- 
' fuance of that Engagement, be employed in any 

* public Place or Truft whatfoever, without the 
' * Advice and Confent of the Kingdom of England \ 

* that 





The Parliamentary HISTORY 

c that thereby they may be difabled from renewing 

' or reinforcing their former Engagement, or in- 

oaober. * fringing the Union and Peace between the King- 
c doms. And as the Kingdom of England is now 
' careful to have this Aflurance from this Kingdom, 
' fo we do not doubt but the Honourable Houfes 
' of Parliament, according to their Offers of Aflift- 

* ance at this Time, will be ready to aflift us upon 
' all other Occafions hereafter, to make good this 
' our Undertaking. 

* And if it fhall pleafe God to blefs thefe cove- 
f nanted Kingdoms with a fettled Peace, we truft 
' that, in any Agreement that fhall be made with 

* his Majefty, the Kingdom of England will be 
' careful that this may be regarded as a neceffary 

* Condition of Peace ; and to the end any Peace, 
' which fhall be agreed upon, may be the more 
' durable, we do alfo earneftly defire that thofe 

* who fhall be employ 'd in public Place or Truft in 
' England, may be fuch as love to preferve Union 

* and Amity betwixt the Nations. 

e We do hold ourfelves very much obliged to 
c the Honourable Houfes of Parliament for their 

* kind Offers of Afliftance, expreffed in their Votes 

* of the 28th of September laft ; and fhall commu- 
' nicate Counfels with you concerning the fame, 

* that their affording Afliftance to this Kingdom 

* may be fo ordered as may be moft ufeful to us, 
and leaft prejudicial to the Affairs of England: 
' And you may reft very well allured, that we fhalL 

* always be ready to give Satisfaction to the Ho- 

* nourable Houfes, in every Thing which maycon~ 
duce to the ftrengthening of the Union, and fet- 

* tling the Peace oAhefe diftra&ed Kingdoms j and 

* to give real Evidence that we are 

Tvur affettionate Friends and Servants^ 

Signed in the Name and by 
the Warrant of the Com- 
,- mittee of Ejiates, by LOUDON, Ctnc\ 

JPuring 

ff 



gf ENGLAND. 75 

Daring Cromwell's Stay at Edinburgh, feveral An - *} car. j, 

Commififoners from the Kirk, the Lord Provo.l, ^ _^ 

the Magiftrates, and principal Citizens, came -to October, 
vifi: him. By Order of the Committee of Eftatcs, 
the Charges of him and all hjs Attendants were 
cL-fray'd by the City ; they were alfo entertained 
by the Marquis of Arg-jlc and the Earl of Leven, at 
aVumptuous Banquet at the Caftle ; and, at their 
going away, they were faluted by the Cattle Guns 
and Volites of fmall Arms. Several Lords alfo 
convoyed them out of the City, on their Way back 
to Carirjle. 

On the gth Cromiuell wrote a Letter from Dal- 
"houfey, which was this Day, Oft. 17, read in the 
Houfe of Commons, inclofing the two foregoing 
Papers that patted between the Committee of 
Eftates and himfelf, and alfo a Declaration con- 
cerning their Proceedings in Oppofition to the-late 
unlawful Engagement againft England (d). The The Common^ 
Commons hereupon pafs'd a Vote in Approbationf afs a Vote of 
of General CromwiWs Conduftj ordered theThanks ^ 
of that Houfe to be returned him, as a Tefrimony 
of his good Services ; and appointed a Committee 
to prepare a Letter for that Purpofe, to be fjgn'd by 
their Speaker. But none of t^fe Refolutioas w.ere 
fent to the Lords for their Concurrence. 

Oft. 1 8. Mr. Serjeant Wylde reminded the Houfe Debate on the 
of Commons, That, on Friday l*ft, AeyMwing^g^* 

rejected the Petition of Abraham Dowcet for Bail, 
upon many weighty Reafons ; as that, by confpi- 
ring with OJborne againft that gallant Gentleman 
Major Ralph, he had not only wrong'd him, but 
endeavoured to take away the Honour and the 

Lives 

(d) All thefe were ordered by the Iloufc of Commons to be print- 
ed, but th.it Edition is not in our Collection of Pamphlets. The 
Copies we l.ave givsn of the Paper delivered by Cromwell to the 
Committee of Eftates, and their Anfwer, are taken from a Journal of 
the Times, intituled, The Moderate Intelligencer, printed for R. Ley- 
to-jrn, and lirenfecl by Gilbert Mabbot. Several Extr.idls o. f Letters and 
Intelligence in Air. Rujtsivurtl^s Collcftions are copied from this 
Journal, 



76 *Tt>e Parliamentary HISTORY 

. 24 Car. .1 Lives of many faithful Perfons, and brought great 
l648 ' t Scandal upon the Houfes and the Army ; and there- 
October, upon ordered a Charge to be brought in againft the 
faid Dowcet this Day : He had, in Obedience there- 
to, prepaired a Charge accordingly, and defired it 
might be put in a Way fo as to bring him to a 
ipeedy Trial. 

To this it was anfwered, * That the Inftant of 
a Treaty was no good Time for letting of Blood, 
it being a Way rather to exafperate than compofe 
Differences ; and fuch as would caufe the World 
to imagine, which they were apt enough to do al- 
ready, that the Intentions of the Houfe were not 
for Peace : That if Dowcet had offended, by being 
a W^tnefs againft Major Ralph, the Matter con- 
cerned not the public Confideration of the Houfe, 
but related only to Rolph as a private Perfon ; and 
for private Injuries the Law is open : That the 
Crime alfo, if any, was bailable by Law ; and 
therefore they mov'd that Dewcet might be bailed, 
and Rolpb left to feek his Remedy by the ordinary 
Courfe of Law.' 

This "was oppofed by the Independent Party, 
who preficd hard for reading the Charge; alledg- 
ing, ' That Dowcet ought to be brought to exem- 
plary Punifhment, as. one that had confpired againft 
the Houfe and the Army, by raifmg a Scandal up- 
on them ; and thereby had endeavoured, as much 
as in him lay, to expofe them to the Hatred and 
Fury of the People: Alfo, That both he and Of- 
lorne ought to be proceeded againft as Incendiaries, 
having fet abroach this Accufation, on Purpofe to 
incite the Kingdom of Scotland to the late Invafion 
againft England ; as appears by their Declaration (*), 
published upon their coming into this Kingdom.* 

To this it was replied, ' That neither OJborne 
nor Dowcet had charged any Thing on the Houfe, 
or any parti- ular Man in it ; and therefore they 
could not be faid to have confpired againft the 
Houfe, by accuung Rolpb ; nor had any particu- 
lar 
(t) la our Seventeenth Volume, p. 314.. 



^ENGLAND. 77 

lar Members Reafon to think themfelves prejudiced An 44. car. I. 

thereby, fmce they were not named, nor any Mtm- l( >43- 

ber of the Army, and none but Ralph was accufed : O6to ber. 

And whereas it wa^ faid, This Accufadon was a 

Means to incite the Kingdom of Scotland to their 

late Invafion, it was well known that Engagement 

was on Foot long before ; and therefore this Accu- 

fation of Major Rolpb could not exafperate them, 

but by Accident : Befides, it was a Bufinefs hinted 

only in the Scots Declaration, and not fet down as 

a moving Caufe of that Engagement.' 

The Refult of this Debate was, That the Charge 
againft Mr. Doivcet was laid afide, but he ftill con- 
tinued in Cuitody of the Serjeant at Arms. 

The fame Day, Off. 18, a Letter from the A Letterfrom 
Lord Fairfax^ dated St. AlbarCs Off. 16, was read t rd Fairfax, 
in the Houfe of Commons, fetting forth the pre- concerning his 
fent State of the Army, and that many Petitions Atmy * 
were in Agitation amongft the Soldiery, to be pre- 
fented to him ; reciting the great Hardfhips they 
had fuffered this Summer in defeating the Parlia- 
ment's Enemies, and that tho' they were inform'd 
that the Afleflments for the Support of the Army 
were generally well paid, yet they had received 
very little ; and therefore defiring that the Army 
might be divided among the feveral Counties pro- 
portionable to the Share of Taxes they ftand re- 
fpecltvely charg'd with, and "that fpeedy Care be 
taken for Payment of their Arrears. 

Hereupon the Commons ordered, That all Ar- 
rears of AfT-fTments for the Army be brought in by 
the firft of November next. 

Among the feveral Petitions prefented at this 
Time to the Lord Fairfax, that from Commiflary- 
General Ireton's Regiment, fuppofed to be of his Regiment to hit 
own penning, was the moft remarkable: Thev VI dfhip for - 

i >i t -r*L T n- i i * Tufti.e ;. Jon tht 

complain d, * That Juftice hath not been executed King and hit 
upon the prime Abetters of the late War ; and Adherents, 
therefore fufpect there is a Party in the Parliament 
abetting and correfponding with, if not guilty of, the 
fame Defigns; That the King is guilty of all the 

Blood 



7$ 4" he Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 14 Car. I. Blood fh et ] . anc ] f o f this they urg'd his own Cori- 
Vt i -^' j fcflion, as they call'd it, in his late agreeing to the 
dober. Preamble of the Houfes firft Proportion ; and that 
there is yet a prevalent Party of his own Creatures, 
who in Parliament and elfewhere, a6t his Defigns, 
and endeavour to reinthronehim ; and are, as they 
conceive, the Authors of the prefent Diftradions : 
That by the aforefaid Party, Free Quarter is con- 
tinued upon the People.' 

After thefe Complaints, they come on with di- 
vers Defires unto his Excellency, the Performance 
whereof they require him to endeavour : 

1. ' That Juftice may be executed fpeedily up- 
on the Contrivers and Encouragers of the late 
War. 

2. ' That Juftice may be done impartially upon 
all criminal Perfons, efpecially upon fuch as have 
or fhall endeavour to obftrudt the Courfe thereof} 
or have betrayed their Truft, or been Authors of 
fhedding that innocent Blood, which calls to Hea- 
ven for Vengeance. 

3. * That the fame Fault may have the fame 
Punifhment in the Perfon of a King or Lord $ as in 
the Perfon of the pooreft Commoner. 

4. ' That all fuch may be proceeded againft ad 
Traitors, who acT: cr fpeak in the King's Behalf, 
till he fhall be acquitted of the Guilt of Innocent 
Blood. 

5. * That the Army may fpeedily have their 
Pay, or a prefent Courfe be taken againft thofe 
who with-hold it. 

6. ' That their Arrears being paid, and Free 
Quarter for ever avoided, the Money may return 
from the Soldier to the Country Man again,' 

And, laftly, they clofe up their Delires with a- 
Declaration, ' That they fhall constantly endea- 
vour to defend Magiftracy and Property, with their 
Lives and Fortunes.' 

Mr. Whitlocke (f) ft vies this a fubtle Petition, and 
fays it was the Beginning of the Dcfign againft the 
King's Perfon, tho' not difcerned till afterwards. 

Off, 

(f) Memsirah, p. 338, 




of fe N G L A N D. 

Otf. 19. The Treaty ftill going on, more Ac- 
counts of the Proceedings of it, from the Com- 
miflloners, were this Day read. 

For the Right Honourable the Earl of MANCHESTER, 
Speaker of the Houfe of PEERS pro Tempore, at 
Weftminfter, 

My Lord, Newport, Oft; 17, 1648. 

I N C E our laft of the i4th Inftant we recei- Another Letter 
ved your Lortlfhip's, with the Refolutions of from the Com- 
the two Houfes upon the Propofition for the ffff%j* 

* Church, of the nth, wherewith we acquainted i nc i fing the' 

his Majefty Yefterday Morning j and we (hall King's Anfwer 
purfue our Direftions therein according to the *^J^, hi3 
' Commands of both Houfes. Majefty's own 

' We herewith preferrt your Lordfhip with an Proportions to 

* Account cf our Proceedings concerning Delin- the Parhameatt 

* quents, and likewife his Majefty's Propofitions 

* to the two Houfes which we received from him 
' this Morning ; the Copies of all which we fend 
' you here inelofed. 

' We have, in purfuance of the Directions from 
4 both Houfes, fignified to us by your Lordfhip's 
laft Letter, as foon as we concluded upon the 

* Propofition your Letter found us in, put in a Pa- 
' per to prefs the King to a full Anfwer to the Pro- 
' pofition concerning the Church, of which we fend 
' your Lordmip a Copy inelofed ; and have this 

* Night put in another Paper, expreffing the Par- 
' ticulars wherein the King's Anfwer falls fhort of 
6 the Defires of both . Houfes in that Propofition ; 
and (hall proceed in the Treaty vrpon the reft of 

* the Propofitions according to our Inftruclions.' 

[Signd by the Lvrds Commijfioners.] 

COMMISSIONERS PAPER making known to the KINO 
the Votes of both Houfes concerning the Church. 

Newport, Ott; 1 6, 1648. 

* \\J E have tranfmitted to the Houfes your 
' W Majefty's Anfwer to the Propofition con- 

* cerning the Church, dated the ninth of Ofto- 



8o The Parltatttenfarf HISTORY 

2ar ' 1 ' ' ^ er l6 ^' and are b 7 them commanded to ac- 
' quaint your Majefly with the Votes and Refolu- 
* tions thereupon, which are as follow, : 

j. v c That this Anfvver of the King's to thePro- 
pofition prefented by the Com'mifiicners to him, 
concerning the Church, is hot fatisfa&ory. 

2. c That after the Commifiioners fhall have con- 
cluded upon the Prqpofition that this flia'l find them 
in, that then they do prefs the King to a full Anfwer 
to the Propofition prefented by them to him con- 
cerning the Church ; and that they do proceed in 
the Treaty upon the reft of the Proportions, ac- 
cording to their former Inftrudions.* 

[Sign'd by all the Commijponers.] 

The KING'S FINAL ANSWER to the PROPOSITION 
concerning Delinquents. 

CHARLES R. Oftober 17, 1648. 

1C* O R a final Anfwer to you as to your Propof:- 
_ tton of the I yh of this Injlant, concerning De- 
linquent 'j, &c. his Majefly will confent^ That all 
Perfons who have had any Hand in the plotting, de- 
fign'wg, or ajjijlmg the Rebellion in Ireland, /hall ex- 
pcfl no Pardon t as is exprejfed in the firjl Branch cf 
this Propofition. 

As to all the reft of thefdid Proportion, his Majefly 
cannot consent thereunto as it is propojed y otherwije 
than as is hereafter sxpreffed^ viz. 

As for all other Perfons comprifed in the f aid firjl 
"Branch^ his Majejly^ for Satisfaction of his tws 
flonfes^ will give way that they may moderately com- 
pound for their fejiates ; and defires they may be ad- 
mitted to the fame. And for removing Diflrufts and 
Interruptions of the public Settlement, his Majejly 
will prefent asfciioweth : 

That fuch of them as the Houfes of Parliament 
will infl/i on-, Jhall not be admitted to his Councils^ 
and be rejlruined from coming to the Court at fuch 
Diftance as the two Hcufes of Parliament Jhall 
think fit ; and Jball net h.'ive any Office or Employ- 
ment in the Stiite or Commonwealth ^ without the 

Can- 



^ENGLAND. 81 

Confent of both Houfes of Parliament ; or Jhall abfent An. 24 Car, j. 
themfclves out of the Kingdom for fame Time, if both l6 4 g - 
Houfes of Parliament Jhall fe think fit. odober 

That all other Perjons, comprlfed in this Propofition, 
Jkall fubmit to moderate Compaction ; and-, for the Space 
ef three Tears, fiall not Jit or ferve as Members or 
./fjfiftants in either Honfs of Parliament, without Con- 
fent of both Houfes of Parliament, 

His MAJESTY'S PROPOSITIONS delivered in to the 
COMMISSIONERS, together with the precedent 
Anfwer, the jyth of Ottober, 1648. 

I. CJ^HAT his Majejly may be fettled in a Condition 
* of Honour ', freedom, ar.d Safety, and have the 
Faith of his tivo Houfes for the fame. 

II. "That his Majejly may be rejlored to the Paf- 
f-'ffion of his Lands and Revenues. 

III. That he may have Compcnfation for thofe Re- 
venues and Profits which his Majejly, for the Satif- 
faftion of his two Houfes in this Treaty, hath or Jhall 
confent to part withal. 

IV. That an A Si of Oblivion and Indemnity may be 
pajjed, to extend to all Perfons for all Matters, with 
fuch Limitations and Provijions as Jiiall be agretd 

between bis Majejly and his two Houfes. 

The COMMISSIONERS PAPERS prejjing the KIN o for 
a fuller ANSWER concerning the CHURCH. 

Newport, Ocl. 1 6, 1648. 

* ^TTHereas we have delivered a Paper to your 
4 VV Majefty of the 25th of September laft, 
' containing our Demands concerning th? Church, 
' and received your Majefty 's Anfwer thereto the 
' 30th of September \ wherein we obferved many 

* Alterations, Omiffions, and fome Denials ; and 
4 therefore, by our Paper of the fame 3oth of &/>- 

* tcmber, did humbly defire your full Anfwer: And 
' having received your M.ijefty's final Anfwer to 
4 us concerning that Propcfition, we did tranfmit it 
4 to both Fioufc<, whofc Votes and Refolutions 

VUL. XVIH. F * there- 



82 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. thereupon we made known to your Maiefty in 

v ]D ^ 3 ' j 'our P^per given in Yefterday : In puifuance 

October. * thereof, we do again humbly ciefire your JVIa- 
4 jefty's full Anfwer to the Propofkion coucerning 

4 the Church.' r0 . j / / /> -/r -> 

[Signed by the Co?nnnjjioners.\ 

The Lords p,ut ofF the Confidcration of thcfe 
Papers for two Days. But, 

The fame Day, Oft. 19, upon their being read 
Motion for a in the Houfe of Commons, a Motion was mrde 
vv, e ' t he re ^ or ta ^'' n g them into imrrediate Conf-oV-a i n. 
fenced 'toGene f al Hereupon Sir H^nry Mildmay flood up and laid,. 
Cromwel;. ' Tiiere were other Matters of far more Conce-n- 
mcnt to be confidered : as the Nereffity and Merits 
of the Soldiery, but cfpecially of Lieutenant-Ge- 
"neral Cromwell, whofe eminent and unparal'cl'd 
Services the Houfe had not yet fo far taken Notice 
of, as to make him any Return of fpecial Acknow- 
ledgment for them ; and therefore he moved, That 
-the Houfe would order the making of a Jewel of 
800 /. Price, to be fent to him, to remain as a 
Teftimony of their Gratitude for his fa .:ous At- 
chievernents.' To this unexpected Motion it was 
anfwered, 4 That though the Lieucenant-Gencral's 
Merits were great, yet the Soldiers Necfeflities were 
much greater ; efpecially the poor Refcrmadoes, 
who had formerly done great Services, and were 
many of them ready to ftarve ; therefore it was 
defirod- if the State was in a Condition to part 
v/' i M ney, the Reformadoes mig-t not be for- 
gotten, but that the~Houfe would be plta^bd either 
to debate the Kind's Answer and Propof.tir.n, or 
proceed upon the Drdinanyi e for the Re-li f of hofe 
redxiced Officers.' Hereupon it was carried foi the 
latter^ and the BuAnrfs of the Jewel \w^ !ai i afide. 
But the ' r; .-ei! that neiihtT ^nfbyi^ nor 

pu.'.ic Fail D-ws, f 'sou Id be reckor>ed iit the Num- 
ber of the forty Dr^ s Allotted for the T. 

O-7. 20. Thi : D.iy a Letter from Scotland was 
read, directed as follows : . 

For 



of E N G L A N D. 

Far tlie Right Hon.. the Earl ^/"MANCHESTER, * 
Speaker of the Ho life of PEERS of the Parliament 
*/ England. 

Edinburgh, Oft. 1 1, 1648. 
Honourable ) 




c 1\7 HEN we look upon the prefent Condition LfetterfromtU 
4 VV of the Affairs of thefe Kingdoms, in re- J2^jjji. 

4 lation to the Multitude of &<?fr Prilbners lately f, r irg Leave to 

6 taken by the Forces under the Command of tran'port aooo 

4 Lieutenant-Genera] Cromwell; and have ferioufiy b 

4 confidcrcd what mia;ht prove the moft fafe and 

4 moft advantageous Way to both Kingdoms to 

4 difpofe of the Common Soldiers, fo as neither the 

4 Charge of their Entertainment may be longer 

* continued upon you, nor the Secusing of the 
' Public Peace further endangered by them ; it is 

* our Judgment that fome confiderable Number of 

* them be fent to foreign Services, under the Con- 
4 duel of fuch Perfons as 'merit Coaftdence to be 
' repofed in, and Rewards of that Kind conferred 
4 upon them ; and for this EfFe6l we have thought 
' fit earneftly to follicit in behalf of this Honourable 

* Gentleman, Col. Robert Montgomery f/J, (whofe 
' conftant, faithful, and great Services performed 
' for the Safety and Union of thefe Kingdoms de- 
4 ferve, by all good Men, highly to be efteemed 
' and rewarded) that the Number of 2000, or up- 

* wards, may be granted to him, with Liberty to 

* tranfpon them beyond the Seas ; for which Em- 
' ployment, as it will no ways tend to the Prejudice 

* of the Crown of England, we will reft confident 
4 that no Man (lull be n/eferred in a Suit of this 
4 Nature to the Gentleman here recommended, we 
4 having found fuch Acceptance granted to our for- 
4 mer Dcfires of this Sort, that we hold ourfelves 
4 ever obliged to be 

Tour Lardjhips very humble Servants^ 

LOUDON. 
A R G Y L E. 
F 2 ' This 

(I) Son of the Ewl of Eglirgton. 



8 4 *fhe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. This Letter being alfo communicated to the 

t 10 * S> _j Commons, both Houfes gave their Confent to the 

Oftcber. Dcfires thereof, upon Colonel Montgomery's giving 

Security that the Scots Prifoners fhould not be 

traniported to any Place where they might be of 

Prejudice to the Kingdom of England. 

The fame Day a Letter was read in the Houfe 
of Commons from Lieutenant-General Cromwell^ 
at Carlifle, dated the I4th of this Month, advifing 
that the Scots had delivered up that City and the 
Citadel thereof, into his Hands, for the Ufe of the 
Parliament : Hereupon the Houfe ordered a Gra- 
tuity of ioo/. to Captain Woolf for bringing the 
News, 

After this they took into Confideration the Pa- 
pers laft fent from the Commiffioners in the IJle of 
- Wight ; when a Motion was made for a further 
Addition to the 40 Days allotted for the Treaty, 
in regard fo much Time had been fpent in tedious, 
though neccfTary, Debates and Tranfations. This 
was warmly oppofed by the Independents ; who 
faid, c That on Thurfday laft the Houfe had yield- 
ed that the Lord's Days and Fad Days fhould not 
be reckoned into the Number, whereby the Treaty 
was now lengthened a Week longer than was ex- 
pedled ; and, if that would not fuffice, they dcfired 
. . the Vote which granted it might be recalled.' This 

was further urged by Mr. Weaver, who faid, c He 
faw no Reafon but it might be recalled, as well 
as the Tuefday's Vote for an Adjournment ; becaufe^ 
faid he, the King; need not fpend much more Time 
about our Proportions, having as good as told us, 
twice, what we fhould expect from him, in Pro- 
pofitions of his own. Befides, the Time of the 
Treaty being limited, the Houfe fhould not, but 
upon weighty Confidcrations, continue it longer.' 
To this it was replied, * That the Time was not 
fo limited, but the Hcufe might continue it at 
Plsafure; and for this there could be no Confide- 
ration more weighty than that the Peace of the 
Kingdom depended thereupon, which could not 

be 



^ENGLAND. 85 

be fettled in fo fmall a Time after fo great a Rupture. An. 2 4 Car. j. 

Befides, the not reckoning of Sundays and Faft t J ( ] ; 

Days, was no more than what was allowed of at October. 
the Treaty of Uxbridge.* So, with much ado, the 
Vote of the Day before, for not reckoning of Faft 
Days and Sundays, flood unrepeal'd ; and Colonel 
Harvey was ordered to carry it up to the Lords for 
their Concurrence, which they gave accordingly. 
This Vote was afterwards fent in a Letter, figned |^ h W J "' 
by the two Speakers, to the Commiffioners, who sundm'aiid* 
were ordered to communicate it to the King. Faft Days out of 

Next the Commons debated his Maiefty's An- th f J' im * allot ' 

f 1 T> T TA 1 ted f r the 

iwer to the rropomion concerning Delinquents, Treaty, 
againft which the Independents argued, That thefe 
Delinquents had occafioned a World of Bloodfhed, 
which would be required fomewhere j and fo, of 
Neceflity upon the Houfe, if they did not remove 
it by Execution of Jufticej and therefore they 
moved, That feven of thofe engaged in the firft 
War, and feven more in the lair, meaning the In- 
rafion under Duke Hamilton, (hould be made Ex- 
amples. And then they fell to naming particular Dcbafe r on 'Jj 6 

r> f T , v 7- TV /i if i -r- i r Propofition tor 

rerions, as Judge Jenkins, Bilhop Wren^ the Earl of Delinquents. 
Holland, Lord Goring, and Duke Hamilton ; and 
would have proceeded with more, but that they were 
interrupted by a Member, who defired them to call 
to Mind, That at firft they voted 27 to be excepted 
from Pardon ; but fince that Time it had been, and 
then was, the Refolution of the Houfe, to pro- 
ceed only againft feven of the old Delinquents ; 
and if they meant to have added fcveti more of the 
new, they ought to have done it before they fent 
their Propofitions, the laft Infurre&ions being on 
Foot long before the i8th of September, which w;;s 
the Time when the Propofitions went to his Ma- 
jefty j that now it was too late to make any new 
Exceptions, and dishonourable for the Houfe fo to 
do, they having concluded themfelves in the Pro- 
pofitions already fent.' 

Then the Queftion being put, That the Perfons 

exprcflcd and contained in that Part of the fiift 

F 3 Brangi) 




'Parliamentary HISTORY 

Branch of the Propofition concerning Delinquents, 
to which the King has not declared his Confent, 
October, be proceeded with, and their Eftates difpofed of, 
as both Houfes of Parliament (hall think fit or ap- 
point ; and that their Perfons {hall not be capable 
of Pardon by his Majefty, without Confent of 
both Houfes of Parliament; the Houfe declaring 
that they will not proceed as to the taking away 
the Life of any of them to above the Number of 
feven Perfons, it pafs'd in the Affirmative, by 98 
Voices againft 63. This Refolution was ordered 
to be fent to the Lords for their Concurrence, and 
the further Confideration of the Propofition con- 
cerning Delinquents was put off to another 
Time. 

Off- 21. The Lords adjourned themfelves into 
a Committee, to take into Confideration the Pa- 
pers, prcfcnted to them on the igth, concerning 
the Treaty ; and the Houfe beins; refumed, the 
The Lords agree King's Propofitions were read particularly : After 
to the King's which it was refolved, That his Majefty be fettled 
in a Condition of Honour, Freedom, and Safety, 
and have the Faith of the two Houfes for the fame : 
That he be reftored to the PofTeffion of his Lands 
and Revenues : That his Majefty have Ccmpen- 
iation for the Revenues and Profits which, for the 
Satisfaction of his two Houfes in this Treaty, 
he hath or fhall confent to part withal : That 
an A6t of Indemnity may be paffed, to extend 
to all Perfons for all Matters ; with fuch Limita- 
tions and Provifions as (hall be agreed between 
his Majefty and his two Houfes : But, laftly, the 
Lords declared, That thefe Votes were not to be 
binding, if the Treaty {hould break off before a 
Conclufion. 

Debate in the Moft Part of this Day was fpent, by the Corn- 
Commons con- mons | n confidcnng of Ways and Means for pre- 

cerning Free- . ' & , . ' ^ 

(Quarter. venting the Army :> taking of i*iee-quarter. in 

prder to which Mr. Scawen mov'd, That the Mem- 
bers 



^ENGLAND. 87 

bcrs of the feveral Counties might be fent down to An. 24 Car. I* 

the Places for which they iervctl, tj ; -u..er in the v , 

Arrears due to the Army : And this Motion was oaober. 
warmly fupported by many others.' Hereupon forne 
Members who fufpc-ed the Drift of it to be 
to procure a thin Houfe, in orct r to ferve particul ir 
Purpofes, argued, That the Committees of Afleif- 
ment in the feveral Counties were the fitted to ga- 
ther in thofe Arrears, as having a greater Influence 
upon the Country, and being better acquainted with 
the proper Ways to raife Money : That the fend- 
ing away fo many Members upon the Clofe of the 
Treaty, might be a Means of leaving no ic in the 
Houfc but thofe trut were Gainers by the War, 
and who therefore would ufe all Methods to- hinder 
a Peace : And that the Members were chofen to 
do their Country Service in Parliament, not to 
ramble about the Kingdom to extort Mon;.-y from 

the People. Thefe Arguments carried fo great 

Weight, that it was at laft refolved, 'only, That 
the leveral Members fnould ufe their belt Endea- 
vours to bring in the Arrears of the Aileffments for 
the Army, to the end that Free-quarter may be 
taken off. And a Committee was appointed to go 
down to the Lord Fairfax, at St. Albans, to con- 
fer with him and his Officers, how the Arrny r.nd 
all other Forces might be reduced to the Eflablifh- 
ment, and receive Satisfaction for their Arrears ; 
alfo how the Country might be reimburfed for 
Free-quarter, and the Army be beft quartered fur 
the future. 

0.57. 23. On the 6th of this Month the Com- L 
mons having appointed a Committee ro wri.e '<. 
Lord Fairfax, for an Explanation of his LI 

\ c 4 a i n \ t^\- 

the 2gth of Augujt lait, conc>.-ni!v^ the Qi 

given by him to the Lord Goring ahd Loi-I . Capci, 

at the Surrender of Cokkefttr ; the Anfwei- : 

was this Day read, importing, ' That the C 

granted to thofe two Lords was not upon i 

lation or Agreement, and therefore- could 

no more Claim than common Quarter to a. 

4 my 




Parliamentary HISTORY 

my taken in any Field-Engagement or other Ac- 
tion ; and that his Meaning in that Letter did not 
extend to any other than the Military Power, and 
therefore thofe Lords were, notwithftanding, liable 
to Trial and Judgment by the Civil ; otherwife any 
treacherous Perfon, as a Spy and the like, or a De- 
fcrter, might obtain Quarter from a private Sol- 
dier, and fo not be further queftionable : And that 
he din not urge this out of any particular Animo- 
ftty to thofe Lords, nor as his own Opinion only ; 
fji- that the general Senfe and Practice in all Wars, 
and of both Parties in this War, gave that Deter- 
mination.' 

OR. 24. The Speaker of the Houfe of Lords 
acquainted them, that Yefterday Sir Peter Killigrew 
brought a Packet from the Commiflioners for the 
Treaty with the King in the IJle of IFigbt, con- 
taining the following Papers : 

Tlic COMMISSIONERS PA PER exprefjing the De- 
feels of the KING'S former ANSWER to the Pro- 
pofition concerning the CHURCH. 

Newport, Off. 17, 1648. 

More Papers f \T7HEREAS we delivered in a Paper to 
fromtheCom- < W your Ma]efty Yefterday, whereby we humbly 

jrumoaers, rela- . r \ iv/r n. TM_ i_ j j i- 'j 

ting to the Pro- mrormea your Majefty, I hat we had delivered 
petitions for the f you a Paper of the 25th of September laft, con- 
Cburchj c gaining our Demands concerning the Church, 

* and received your Majefty 's Anfwer thereunto 
' the 30th of September^ wherein we obferved 
4 many Alterations, Omiflions, and fome Denials; 
' and thereupon, by another Paper of the fame 
' 3Oth of September, did humbly defire your full 
Anfwer : And having received your Majefty's 

* final Anfwer to 09 concerning that Proportion, 

* we tranfmitted it to both Houfes, and th?i 
' thereupon v/e miide known to your Majefty 

* their Votes and Refolutions j in purfuance of 
f which? we did again humbly defire your Ma- 

jeflv'i 



of E N G L A N D. 89 

* jetty's full Anfwer to the Proportion concerning An - *4 Can j. 
' the Church. . _ ' * ' >. 

* We farther humbly crave Leave to obferve to oftober. 
' your Majefty, the Particulars wherein your Ma- 
' 'iefty's Anfwer to that Proposition concerning the 
' Church, cometh {hort of the Propofition of both 
' Houfes ; namely, 

< Firjl) Your Majefty doth not confent to the 
' Bill for the utter abolilhing and taking away of 
' Archbifhops, Bifhops, &c. out of the Churches 

* of England and Ireland, and Dominion of Wales. 

Secondly, ' Your Majefty doth not give your Con- 
4 fent, as is defired, 'That the Ordinance of Parlia- 
' ment for the abolijhing of Archbi/hops and Eifl)ops 
c within the Kingdom of England and Dominion of 
' Wales , and for fettling their Lands and PojJ'eJJions 

* upon T'ruflccs^ for the life of the Commonwealth ;' 
' and the other Ordinance, intituled, An Ordinance 

* of the Lords and Commons ajjembled in Parliament^ 

* for appointing the Sale of Bijbops Lands for the 
4 Ufe of the Commonwealth^ be confirmed by A 61 of 
' Parliament. 

c Thirdly ' Whereas it is defired your Majefly 

* will confirm, by Adi: of Parliament, the Ordinance 
' for calling and fitting of the Affembly of Divines, 
' delivered to your Majefty with our Paper of the 
' 25th of September laft ; your Majefty thereunto 

* faith, That you will) by Aff of Parliament, con- 

* firm the calling and fitting of the faid AJJembly 

* from the fir/i of July, 1643; and that they Jhall 

* have fitcb Powers as are mentioned in the faid 
Ordinance ; and that they fiall continue their Meet- 

* ing and Sitting y and le dijfihcd in fuch Manner aj 
' both Houfes of Parliament Jhall dirett ; which An- 

* fwer is differing from the Propofition, which de- 

* fires the Confirmation of that Ordinance by Act 
of Parliament. 

Fourthly, * Whereas we pray, That the Refor- 
? mation of Religion, according to the Covenant, 

* be fetticcl by Act of Parliament in Engtatuf, Ire- 
' land, and ?ral(S\ in fuch Manner as both Houfes 

- * have 



90 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. < have agreed, or fhall agree upon, after Confulta- 

t I 48- ^ < t i on had w ith the Aflembly of Divines, particu- 

October. ' k'ty tnat ^e Direjftory be con:u-a-.ed by Act of 

4 Parliament, Together with the Ordinanc s of the 

* third of Jpnudrfr 1644, and the 23d or Augujl, 
4 164 <;, concerning the taking a\v.. of the Book. 
4 of Common-Prayer, and eft.iblifning and putting 
4 the Directory in Execution : 

* Your Majefry doth not fay, you will conf rm 
4 thofe Ordinances, as is oefired in the Proportion, 
' but your Majefty faith, That you will cor>j:- ?n the 
4 pkMuk Ufe if the r i :reiory in all Churches find 
4 Qkapqts, as h dfjlred in iJ^ Proportion; and ivill 
4 conjtnt to the PC pea I of fo ::i:iJ) ef nil Statutes as 
' only concerns tbt Book of Common-Prayer^ and alfo 

* to the taking the jame away out of all Churches 
( and C'yt>sl<, p'-wided that the Vfe thereof may be 
' cor.tr> u?d in yo'ir wfatefty's Chapel for yourfelf 
4 nt',-1 y >".: Hou/bold. By which Anfwer, your 

* M^'e'ty doth n >t confirm thofe Ordinances, 

* vyhich contain may effential Claufes touching 
' the- Book of Common- Prayer and Directory; 
' and your Majefty ftiil continueth the Ufe of the 
4 C;. union Prayer-Hook in your Chapel for your- 
4 felf and Eljufhold, which is not a confenting to 

* the Propofition as is defired. 

' And touching Reformation of Religion, your. 
4 Majefty faith, That you will confent, that the, 
4 Form of Church-Government, presented to your 

* Majefty^ be confirmed by Act of Parliament for 
' three Years ; provided only, that a (Confutation 
4 in the mean Time be had with the dffimbly of Di- 
4 vines, in fuch Manner, and for the Purpofes as 
4 in your Majefty s Anfwer of the yth of Septem- 
4 ber. are expreJJ'ed. Which Anfwer of your Ma- 
4 jefty, we humbly conceive, comes far fliort of 

* the Defire in the Propofition, which defires that 
4 Reformation of Religion, according to the Cove- 
4 nant, be lettled by A6t of Parliament in the King- 
4 doms of England and Ireland, and Dominion of 
4 Wales, in fuch Manner as both Houfes have a- 

4 greed, 



of ENGLAND. 

'greed, or (hall agree upon, after Confultation 
4 had with the Aflembly of Divines. 

4 And whereas the Articles of Chriftian Religion, 
4 prcfented to your Majefty, are deftred to be by 

* your Majefty confirmed by Act of Parliament j 

* your Majefty gives no Anfwer thereunto. 

< And we farther humbly conceive, That your 
4 Majefty hath not given Anfwer to that Part of 
4 the Propcfition which defires your Majefty to 
4 confirm the Ordinance for the better Obfervation 
4 of the Lore's Day according as is therein defired ; 

* nor to that Part of the Proportion, which defires 
4 5jour Majefty to give your Royal AflVnt to the 
4 Bill for the better Advancement of Preaching 

* of God's Holy Word in all Parts of this King 
4 dom ; and to ihe Bill again ft enjoying Pluralities 

* of Benefices by Spiritual Perfons, and Non-Refi- 
4 dency, which have been formerly prefcnted to 
4 your Majefty. 

* And uhereas it is defired, That an Act or Acts 
4 be palled in Parliament for a ftridter Courfe to be 
4 taken to prevent the faying or hearing of Mais in 
4 the Court, or any .other Part of this Kingdom, or 
4 the Kingdom of Ir eland \ we humbly conceive 
4 your Majefty doth not give Anfwer thereunto in 
4 the Extent, as by the Proportion is defired, for 
4 your Majefty therein exempts the Queen and her 
4 Family. 

4 And, Laftiy, we humbly conceive, your Ma- 
4 jefty hath not at all granted the Defires of the 
< two Houfes touching the Covenant; and there- 
4 fore we ftiil humbly defire your Majefty 's full An- 
4 fwer to the Propofition concerning the Church.' 
[Sign d by all the Comnrffior^rs.} 

His MAJESTY'S further and final ANSWER con- 
cerning the CHURCH. 

CHARLES 'R. Newport, Oct. 21, 1648. 

T 7 I S Majefly conceiiics that his former 
^ to your Propojitiont concerning the C-'?fi r cf'.' t 
would have given more Satisfaction to his i-iv. i 




92 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. than is exprejjed in your Papers of the i6th and 
I Jib of this In/I ant, as containing in them (if con- 
fidered in their full Extent] ConceJJions of the mojt 
material Things defired\ and therefore, as well for 
a Declaration of his dear Intentions by thofe former 
Anfwers, as for a farther and final Anfwer to the 
faid Proportions and Paper of the Ijth, his Majejly 
faith as follow eth : 

That albeit, for the Rcafons exprejfed in his for- 
mer Paper, he cannot confent to a Bill and the Or- 
dinance for abolijhing Bijhops ; yet, for the Satif- 
faflion of his two Houfes, and fettling the public 
Peace, he will confent to a Bill for the taking away 
ef all Archbijhops, Chancellors, and Commijfaries, 
Deans and Sub-Deans, Deans and Chapters, Arch- 
deacons, Canons, and Prebendaries ; and all Chan- 
ters, Chancellors, Treasurers, Sub-Treafurers, Sue- 
centers, and Sacrifts ; and all Vicars Choral, and 
Choiriflers, Old Vicars and New Vicars of any Ca- 
thedral or Collegiate Church ; and all other their 
Under -Officers, out of the Church of England and 
Dominion of Wales, and out of the Church of Ire- 
land. And farther, his Majejly will confent to fuf- 
pend the Exercife of all Epifcopal Government for 
the Space of three Years ; and hath confented and 
will confent to confirm the Form of the Church Govern- 
ment, now presented to him for the faid three Years, 
and that no other Jhall be ufed during that Time : 
In which Time, his Majejly continueth his Defire, 
That a Confultation may be had with the AJJembly 
of Divines at Weftminfter, (twenty of his own No- 
mination being added] to the end that his Majejly 
and his two Houfes may within thofe three Years in- 
form themfelves of the Praclice of the Primitive 
Church in point of Epifcopacy ; and may accordingly 
agree in limiting the Bijhyps to the Counfcl and Af~ 

ance of Prejbyters, and in the Exercife of their 

rifdiftion, and Increafmg their Number if it be 
thought ft. 

And his $4ajejiy will confent that in cafe no Set- 
tlement Jhall be agreed on within the faid three Years, 
then after the faid Time the Power of Ordination 

Jhall 



of E N G L A N D. 93 

/hall not be exercifed by the Bijhops without the An. 24 Car. I. 
Counjel and AJJiftance of Prejbyters ; and that no , l * ' t 
other Epifcopal jitrifdiftion Jhall be exercifed by oftober. 
Bijhops but fuch, and in fuch Manner, as Jhall be 
agreed on by his Majejiy and his two Houfes of Par- 
liament ; and his Majejiy doth profefs, that if in 
that Time he be convinced that the Function of Bi- 
J})ops is net agreeable to the Word of God, or that 
Chrift commanded any other Government, he will 
moji chearfully embrace that, and take away Epifeo- 
pacy ; but until he be fo convinced he believes him- 
felf bound in Conference to uphold that FuncJion, as is 
above exprejfid. 

For the Ordinances for fettling the Bijhops Lands 
upon TrvJIees, and for the Sale of thofe Lands, al- 
though his Majejiy upon conscientious Scruples^ 
(wherein he hath the concurrent Opinion of the Di- 
vines as well of the Reformed as other Churches) 
hath not consented thereunto ; yet he hath offered Sa- . 
tisfaftion to all fuch as have pur chafed any of thofa 
Lands or dijburfed Money upon that Security, by 
legal EJIates for Lives or Tears, not exceeding ninety 
nine Tears t referving only the Property and Inheri- 
tance of thofe Lands to the Church and Churchmen* 
at the old Rent, or other moderate Rent, for their 
Maintenance j and if that thofe Leafes Jhall not 
fuffice, his Majejiy ivou'd propound and confent 
to feme other Way for their farther Satisfaction : 
And therefore other Satisfaction for thofe Debts and 
Engagements (which were the Motives for the Sale 
of thofe Lands) being propcfed, and his Majejiy 
having therein condefeended as far as pojjibly he can, 
he defer es his two Houfes would comply with his Majejiy 
in thofe Particulars. 

His Majejiy hath offered, by Aft of Parliament, 
to confirm the calling and fitting of the Ajjembly of 
Divines, as largely in the Matter defered as the Or- 
dinance itfelf propofed for that Purpofe. He hath 
likewife offered to c infirm the public Ufe of the Di- 
reftory in all Churches and Chapels, as defn cd in 
your Propofetion : and to confent to the Repeal of fa 
much of alll Statutes as concern the Book of Common- 



94 he Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. Praytr, and to take the fame away out of all Churches 
and Chapels, except bis Majcjfy's Chapel, where he 
intends the Ufe thereof may be continued for himfelf 
and his Houjhold, until another public Form of 
Praytr JJiould-be agreed on by his Majejiy and kis two 
JFloufes. 

His Majejiy hath likewife confented to the Bill 
fou fvpprejjing 'of Innovations, wherein there is full 
Provision for the due Obfervation of the Lord's Day ; 
and offered (if that were not Jufficient) to confent to 
the Matter of the Ordinance for the Obfervation 
thereof as fully as is dejired'. But for the Ordi- 
nances prefsnted to his Majejiy, which concern the 
AJJembly of Divines, the Directory, the taking away 
the Book of Common Prayer, and the Obfervation of 
the Lord's Day, many Exprcffwns therein require 
neceffary Alterations, in refpeff of fame Things hap- 
pened fince their firjl framing ; others reflect on for- 
mer ejlablifoed Laivs, and other Matters not necef- 
fary ; and therefore, tho 1 he confented to the Matter 
therein de fired, yet he could not confirm thofe in- 
dividual Ordinances, in Terminis, as they were 
penned. 

J^hereas you conceive that his Majejiy did not 
give his SfJJ'ent to the Bill for the better Advancement of 
the Preaching of God's Holy Word in all Parts of this 
Kingdom ; his Majejly, by his former Anjwer, did fuf- 
ficiently exprefs his Confent thereunto, by csnfenting to 
the Bill for fupprfjj ing of Innovation! ,, (in which 
that for the better Advancement of Preaching is inclu- 
ded} and his Majefy doth cgc.in give his Confeni there" 
unto ; as alfo to the Bill againjl enjoying Pluralities of 
Benefices by Spiritual Per Jons, and Non-ReJidency, 
formerly delivered to his Majejiy, as is defired '.n your 
Proportions. 

Touching Reformation of Religion ; whereas you 
fay, That his Majcuy's Anfwer comes fur fhort of 
"the Proposition, which defires that his Majefty 
fhould Confent that Reformation of Religion, ac- 
cording to the Covenant, be ieule J n fuch Manner 
as both Houfes have agreed, or ftiaD r.gree upon r 
after Confultation had with the Afl'embly of Di- 



of E N G L A N D. 95 

vines ; bis Ma je fly faith, That he hath anfwered all An 24 Car. I, 

the Particulars which are fet down as Branches of ^ f 

that general Proportion, and cannot think it will be October, 
cxpettcd that he Jhould oblige himf elf generally to 
ivhat his two Houfes Jhall hereafter agree touching 
Matters of Religion, before he be fatisfied of the Na- 
ture thereof. 

His Majejly conceives that he hath given a full An- 
fwer to your Proportion for an Acl or Acls to be pajfed 
for aftriler Courfe to be taken to prevent the faying or 
hearing of Mafs in the Court, or any other Part of this 
Kingdom, or the Kingdom 0^' Ireland ; he having con- 
fented thereunto, with Exemption only of the Queen 
and her Family, few whereof are of her Profefjion^ 
according to the Articles of Marriage agreed on be- 
twixt the two Crowns, which his Majejly conceives his 
tiuo Houfes will not advife him to break ; and for re- 
flrainingthe Accefs of all others but her Family ; and in 
all Things elfe his Majejly confents to that Proportion 
as is dejired. 

Touching the Covenant, his Majejly anfwers as 
formerly, That he remains yet unsatisfied to take it, or 
impofe it upon others, and conceives it not proper to 
be infifled upon at this Time j and that the Ends there- 
of, without taking it, will be obtained by this Agreement, 
If happily concluded. 

For the Articles of Religion prefented to- his Ma- 
jejly, which are dejired to be confirm d by Act of Par- 
liament, his Majejly hath already anfwered, That 
he hath not yet had Time to perufe them with that 
Deliberation as is requijite before he bind up himfelf 
and his Subjects in Matters of Faith and DoElrine ; 
and conceives his two Hovfes will think it not improper 
to refpite the Consideration of them to a farther. Time, 
confedering how perilous Definitions are i;i Matters 
of Religion, how long Time the Articles have been 
in framing, and that fence the Beginning of :: Treaty, 
and not before, they came intircly to his Majsjtys 
View. 

His Majvjly having fo far confented. to thefeve- 
ral Particulars of this. Proportion, that t!>e remain- 
ing 



96 . ne Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. j n g Differences are very few, doth therefore carne/l* 
i < _ , ly defire bis two Houfes, that they may be no Ub* 

Oftober. fade to the Settlement of the blejjed Peace now in 
Hand. 

Tlie PROPOSITION concerning the Nomination of 
the CHIEF OFFICERS in the Kingdom of Eng- 
land. 

Newport, Qtt. 21, 1648. 

For the Nomina^ { TTT E humbly defire your Majefty to give 
tionof chief Of- 1 VV your Royal Aflent to the Proportion en- 



' Lord-Treafurer, Commiflioners of the Great Seal 
< or Treafury, Lord-Warden of the Cinque Ports, 
' Chancellor of the Exchequer and Duchy, Secre- 
' taries of State, Mafter of the Rolls, Judges of both 
' Benches, and Barons of the Exchequer of the King- 
dom of England, be nominated by both Houfes of 

* the Parliament of England, to continue quamdiu fe 
c bene gejjerint ; and, in the Intervals of Parliament, 
1 by fuch Committees of both Houfes of Parliament, 

* as both Houfes of the Parliament of England fhall 
nominate and appoint for that Purpofe, to be 

* approved or difallowed by both Houfes at their 

* next Sitting.' 

[Subfcribtd by all the Cornmijfioners.] 

CHARLES R. New P ort > Oa - 
Tf R a fnal Anfwer to you as to your Paper 
* of the lift Inftant concerning the Nomination of 
Officers, his Majejly doth confent thereunto as is de- 
Sired, fo as the Time for Nomination be limited to ten 
Tears. 



The PROPOSITION concerning the City of London. 

Newport, Off. 21, 1648. 

< TiTT humbly defire your Majefty to give your 
t VV Confent to the Propofition following con- 

That 



For the city of < 

* corning the City of London : 
7 



^ENGLAND. 7 

* That an Aft be parted for the granting and con-- An. 24. Cr 
' firming of" the Charters, Cuftoms, Liberties, and t * * 8> 
1 Franchifes of the City of London^ notwithftanding o<fbb<Jr 
' any Nonufer^ Mifufer, or Ab.ufer. 

4 And for Prevention of Inconveniences whicn 
' may happen by the long Intermiffiori of Common 
' Councils, it is defired, That there may be an 
' Aft that all Bye-Laws and Ordinances already 

* made, or hereafter to be made, by the Lord Mayor, 
' Aldermen, and Commons in Common Council 

* aflembled, touching the calling, continuing, di- 
' refting and regulating the fame Common Coun- 
' cils, (hall be as effeftual in Law, to all Intents 
' and Purpofes, as if the fame were particularly 1 
' enafted by the Authority of Parliament j and 
' that the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Commons, 
' in Common Council, may add to, or repeal the 
' faid Ordinances from Time to Time as they (hall 

* fee Caufe. 

' That fuch other Propofitions as {hall be made 
c by the City for their farther Safety, Welfare, and 
' Government, and fhall be approved of by both 

* Houfes of Parliament, may be granted and con 

* firmed by Aft of Parliament.' 

[Subfcribed by the CommiJJiori<rs'\i 
CHARLES R. Newport, Oft. 21, 1648, 

a final Anfwer to you^ as to your Pmpo/itten 
concerning the City of London, bis Majefly dotb 
confent thereunto as is defired. 

The PROPOSITION concerning the GREAT SEAL. 
Newport^ Ocl. 21, 1648. 



* VI7 E humbly defire your Majefty t 

* VV your Royal Affent to the Propofiti 



to give For tnc Crwl 



lidon en- s " 1 



' fuing, 

* That all Grants, Commiflions, Prefentations, 
Writs, Procefs, Proceedings, and other Things 
' parted under the Great Seal of England, in the 

VOL, XVIII, G * Cuftcdy 




The Parliamentary HISTORY 

' Cuftody of the Lords and other Commifiionefs^ 

* appointed by both Houfes of Parliament for the 

Sober. ' Cuftody thereof, be, and, by A61 of Parliament 

* with the Royal AfTent, (hall be declared and ena<9> 
ed to be, of full Force and Effect to all Intents and 
' Purpofes, as the fame or like Grants, Commif- 
' fions, Prefentations, Writs, Procefs, Proceed - 

* ings, and other Things under any Great Seal 

* of England^ in any Time heretofore, were or have 

* been. 

4 And that, for Time to come, the fafd Great 

* Seal now remaining in Cuftody of the faid Com- 

* miflloners, continue and be ufed for the Great 

* Seal of England: And that all Grants, Com- 

* millions, Prefentations, Writs, Procefs^ Proceed- 
' ings, and other Things whatsoever pafled under, 
' or by any Authority of, any other Great Seal fince 
' the 22d of May, 1642, or hereafter to be pafled , 
' be invalid and of no Effect, to all Intents and Pur- 
' pofes ; except fuch Writs, Procefs, and Commif- 
' fions as being pafled under any other Great Sea], 
' than the faid GreatSeal in the Cuftody of the Com- 
6 miffioneiB aforefaid, on or after the faid 22d Day 
' of May, and before the 28chJ)ay of November^ 
e 1643, were afterwards proceeded upon, returned 

* into, or put into Ufe in any of the King's Courts 
6 at Weftrmnfter ; and except the Grant to Mr. Ju- 

* ftice Bacon to be one of the Ju.ftices of the Kings 

* Bench ; and except all A6h and Proceedings by 

* virtue of any Acts or Commiflions of Goal De- 

* livery, Afli^e and Niji priiis, or Oyer and Term- 

* ner pafled under any other Great Seal than the 

* Seal aforefaid, in the Cuftody of the faid Commif- 

* fioners, before the firft of Ottober^ 1642.' 

[Sign'd by all the CommiJJloners.'} 

CHARLES R. Newport, Oa. 21, 1648. 

JN Anfwer to you, as to your Proportion concern-- 
ing the Great Seal, delivered in this Day, his Ma- 
jefty doth canfent thereunto? as is defircd. 



\ 

^ENGLAND. 99 

The PROPOSITION concerning W A R D s and An - 24 cr. 
LIVERIES. l648 ' 

v ' v 

Oftober. 
Newport, Of?. 21, 1648. 

4 TT7 E humbly defire your Majefty to 'give your. And for^the 
4 VV Royal AfTent to the Propofition enfuing, 
4 That an Act or Adts of Parliament be palled, 

* for the taking away of the Court of Wards and 
4 Liveries, and of all Wardfhips, Liveries, Primier 
4 Set/ins, and Oujler les Mains, qnd of all other 
4 Charges incident unto, or arifmg from, or by reafon 
4 of, any Wardfhips, Liveries, Primier Scifms, or 
4 Qujler les Mains ; and of all Tenures by Ho- 
4 mage, Fines, Licences, Seifures, and Pardons for 
4 Alienation, and of all other Charges incident or 
4 belonging thereunto, or for or by reafon thereof, 
4 from the 24th of February, 1645. And that all 

* Tenures by Knights Service, Grand Serjeanty, 
4 Petty Serjeanty, or Soccage in Capite, either of 
4 his Majefty, or of any other Perfon or Perfons, 
4 may be, from the Time aforefaid, turned into 
4 free and common Soccage. And that the Sum of 
4 50,000 /. per Annum be granted to the King by 

* way of Recompence.' 

[Sign'dby all the Commijfiwers.'] 

CHARLES R. New P ort > Oa - 2I 

R a Final Anfwer te you, as to your Propofition 
concerning the Court of Wards, delivered in this 
Day, his Majefly doth confent thereunto as is defired,fo 
as he may have in Recompence for the fame 100,000 1. 
per Annum ajfurcd unto him, his Heirs and Suc- 
cffjors. 

After reading all thefe Papers, the Lords took The Lor<J name 
into Confideration the Commons Vote of the 2Oth, fcven Deiin- 
wherein they declared that they would not proceed, ^""^ 
as to the taking away of Life, to above the Number 
of feven Perfons, in the firft Branch of the Propo- 
fiion concerning Delinquents - t and refolvcd upon 
G 2 Francis 



i oo ube Parliamentary. HISTORY 

An; 24 Car. I. Francis Lord Cottington, George Lord Digby, Sir 

t * ^' Robert Heath, Sir Francis Doddington, Sir George 

Odtober. RadcUff*, Sir Richard Grenville, and Sir Charles 

Dattifon. The reft of the Perfons in the firft Ex- 

ception were ordered to ftand. 



aeteort 

tng p'ropofi - 1 "'" pofitions, with the King's Anfwers to them, being 
tions, &c. being read in the Houfe of Commons, Mr. Weaver corn- 
punted. plained, That they were already put into Print, and 

defired that Enquiry might be made who it was that 
gave Order for the printing of them j alledging what 
a Diflionourand Prejudice to the Houfe it muft needs 
be, to have Things difperfed abroad in Print before 
they had been debated there ; faying further, That 
iurely the Blame muft be laid on Sir Peter Killi- 
grew, it being hardly poflible that a Copy could 
be obtained fo fuddenly from any Hand but his/ 
Another faid, ' That this being a Way to fore- 
ftal the Senfe of the Houfe in the Opinion of the 
People, it ought not to be fuffercd ; and unlefs it 
were prevented, Things would be fo reprefented 
as if they were not Well-wifhers to the Treaty/ 
To this it was added by a third, ' That he could 
not believe any Man in the Houfe was againft the 
, ^ Treaty; and, for his Part, rather than Things 
fhould not be concluded thereby, and left Want of 
Time mould be objected hereafter, he would con- 
fen t that forty Days longer might be added to the 
Treaty/ This laft Motion being fupported by 
many of the Independent Party, gave Occafion to 
luipecl: that it did not proceed from any Good- 
will to Peace : Whereupon a Member obferved, 
4 That the happy Iffue of the Treaty did not con- 
iift fo much in Length of Time, as in a Defire 
to give and receive mutual Satisfaction, to and 
from, his Majefty, and a reafonable Compliance 
tapon moderate, juft, and equal Grounds ; alledg- 
ing, That his Maiefty had condefcended very much 
in the main Things, and the Houfe, as yet, in no- 
thing at all to him : That his Majefty had given 
Satisfaction in the Militia, and feveral other Mat- 

ters 



ef ENGLAND. 101 

ters fufficient for their Security : That the only An. 24 OT. r 

Thing he ftuck at, was the Deftruction of the ^ '^ t 

Church and his Friends, and the taking of the Co- oaober. 
vennnt, concerning which he had given in his fi- 
nal Anfwer ; and therefore it would be in vain to 
continue the Treaty any longer than the Time li- 
mited, except it were defired by his Majefty him- 
felf and their Commiffioners : Befides, he urged, 
it would be much conducing to the obtaining a 
Peace by his Treaty, if the Debate of his Maje- 
fty's prefent final Anfwer concerning the Church 
might be managed with Moderation :' And there- 
fore he moved the Houfe might proceed upon it 
prefently. But this was over-ruled : And the Re- 
fult was, That a Letter of Thanks fliould be fent 
from both Houfes to their Commiflioners, inclofing 
the Refolution of the igth, to except Sundays and 
public Fafts out of the Number of the forty Days 
allotted for the Treaty : The farther Debate upon 
the Propofitions was alfo put off to the 26th, and 
all the Members ftri&ly enjoin'd to attend at that 
Time. 

Qtt. 25. No Bufinefs was done in either Houfe, 
only returning Thanks to the Minifters who had 
preached before them, it being the Faft Day : But, 

Oft. 26. A Motion was made in the Houfe of Debate on the 
Commons, For taking into Confideration the Com- Kin e' s Anfwer 
miflioners Paper expreffing the Defefts of the rtoEl ' 
King's former Anfwer to the Propofition cpncern- 
ingthe Church, and his Majefty's further and final 
Anfwer to that Propofition. In fupport of this 
Motion a Member alledg'd, ' That it was high 
Time to tranfmit the Senfe of the Houfe thereupon 
to their Commiffioners, who muft needs be at a 
Stand, by reafon of fo long a Delay, his Majefty 
having given in his Anfwer five Days before, which 
had now been three Days depending in the Houfe.' 

The Independent Party finding the Confidera- 
tion of the King's Anfwer could not be decently 
avoided, began the Attack upon Epifcopncv. 
G 3 Mr. 



102 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. z*. Car. I. Mr. Miles Corbet affirm'd, That Bifiiops wertf 
- ' ' c ^ ear ty Anti-chriftian, and cry'd out, Down with 
tnem even to the Ground.' To this Mr. 'Blakijlcn 
added, ' That becaufe Bifhops were Anti-chriftian, 
therefore the King ftuck fo clofe to them ; that his 
Majefty gave no Satisfaction at all concerning Bi- 
fliops, for he confented to the taking away of only 
Archbifhops ; but, for his own Part, he thought 
they were both Birds of a Feather.' 

To this it being anfwer'd, * That the King, in 
order to grve Satisfaction, had confented to lay 
afide, after three years End, the whole Subftance 
of Epifccpacy, and abolifli the Jurifdiction and 
Function of Bifhops, as appear'd by his laft Con- 
ceflions ; only he had left a little Root in Matter of 
Ordination : ' Mr. Gourdcn replied, * That both 
Kingdoms had covenanted and engaged to pluck 
up Epifcopacy Root and Branch ; and that if they 
left ever fo little a Slip of the Root, it would foon 
grow up again ; and therefore he conceived the 
King could not give Satisfaction till Bifhops were 
taken away, both Name and Thing, that there 
might not remain the leaft Footfteps of that Go- 
vernment to be taken Notice of by the Prefent Age, 
or tranfmitted to Pofterity.' 

Hereupon Mr. Jeffon proposed this Queftion, 
* Whether Bifhops were not mention'd in the Scrip- 
ture, and far more vifibly than the Form now en- 
deavoured to be fet up for ought that had been 
yet (hewn to the contrary ? And whether the Gen- 
tlemen that were fo eager for rooting up Epifco- 
pacy, had not bed root it up firft out of the Evi- 
dences of the Gofpel, and of all Antiquity?' To 
this no Anfwer was given : But Alderman Pen- 
r.ington further urging, ' That the Houfe was 
bound by the Covenant to root out Bifhops?' 
it was replied, * That it was true they were bound 
by the Covenant to extirpate fo much of the Hie- 
rarchy as fhould be found contrary to the Word of 
God, the Rule by which they were to reforn? ; 
and therefore till it was cleared how much of Epif- 
copacy was contrary to the Word of God, it could 

not 



cf E NG L A N D. 103 

not be fafe to extirpate the whole Order : AncI the An. 24 Car. I. 
only Way to find out the Truth was that which . l64 ' , 
the King had propounded and promifed, that be- oftobcr. 
twixt this and three Years End, if upon a Confe- 
rence between the AfTembly of Divines, and twenty 
of his own Nomination, he mould be convinced 
of the Unlawfulnefs of Biftiops, and the Lawful- 
nefs of any other Government, he would moft 
chearfully embrace that, and take away Epifco- 
pacy : But till then it could not, in Reafon and 
Confcience, be expected that his Majefty {hould 
abfolutely abolifh it, under Pretence of giving Sa- 
tisfaction.' 

To this the Independents replied, by arguing 
en Fafio ad Jus; faying, ' That the Conference 
prbpofed by the King, at the End of three Years, 
would perhaps be the Way to undo all that hitherto 
the Parliament had done ; and might call in que- 
flion the Judgment and former Refolutions of the 
Houfes, and the Ordinances concerning Church- 
Government.' In Anfwer to which it was obferv'd, 
That it muft be an ill Caufe which could not 
endure the Teft of a Conference. ; that the avoid- 
}ng one would reflect much upon the Reputation of 
the Aflembly of Divines ; and argue, in the Opinion 
of moft Men, either a bad Caufe, or but weak 
Defendants: Moreover, that a Bufmefs of fo high 
a Nature as Church-Government could not be 
debated too often, and as yet one Party only had 
been heard to fpeak to that Point ; whereas it was 
unjuft to conclude upon any thing without know- 
ing, at leaft, what the other had to offer ; that it 
muft be far more for the Honour of the Houfe to 
determine fo weighty a Matter, after a full Hear- 
ing on both Sides : And therefore it was moved, 
that his Majefty's Conceflions might be accepted of 
as to the Matter of Epifcopacy.' But the Que- which is voteij 
ftion being put thereupon, it was refolved, T 
the King's Anfwer to that Part of the Propofition 
for the Church, which concerns a Bill and Ordi- 
nances for abolifliing of Bimops, is not fatisfac- 
And a Committee was appointed tv draw 
G 4 up 



3 04 3*be Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 54 Car. I, u? the Particulars of this DiflatisfaCtion againft the 
t l648 ' j next Morning. 

Oftcber* 

The fame Day, Oft. 26, the Earl of Manchejler 
acquainted the Houfe of Lords that Sir "John Cbiefley 
had that Morning brought him the following Letter 
from the Committee of Eftates of Scotland, and 
defired that \r David Carmichael might have a Pafs 
to go into the Ifle of Wigbt t to deliver a Letter alfo 
from them to the King. 

For the Right Honourable the SPEAKER of the Houfe 
of PEERS pro Tempore, to be communicated to both 
Haufes of Parliament. 

Edinburgh, Oft. 17, 1648. 
Right Honourable, 
* ANY have been the Troubles wherewith 



the Committee c the" Lord hath been pleafed to exercifc 

pf Eftates of * thefe Kingdoms, fjnce your joining with us in 
Scotiand,<kfmn S c the So j emn L eague an j Covenant; but we may 

agoodCorrelpcn- . . o I'IA/T- 

dence with the trui y y, many and great have been the Mercies 
Parliament of < of the Lord, and his gracious Deliverances out 
of thofe Troubles : We need not to mention the 
' Toffings, Shakings, and ftrong Tempefts which 
c the Honourable Houfes have endured, and how 

* the t-ord hath preferved them in the Midft of 
' them all ; thefe Things are beft known to your- 
' felves : But for us, befides fmaller Troubles, this 

* Kingdom hath been twice borne down and over- 
' run by the Prevalency of the malignant Party ; 
' firft by the Power of the .Forces under the Con- 
' du6l of James Graham^ late Earl of Montrofs, 
' and lately by the Power and Force of thofe who 
' joined urjder the Corrjmand of James Duke of 
^ Hamilton., from both which the Lord hath mer- 

* cifully delivered us ; and now, by his good Pro- 
f yidence, the Power of managing the Affairs of 
' the Kingdom is again inverted in the Hands of 

* thofe Perfcns who were moft forward and active 
? in fending an Army mtoEnglandy in the Year of 

QoJ 



of E N G L A N D. 105 

c God 1643, for the Affiftance of their Brethren, An - *4 Car. i. 
1 and v.'ho protcfted in Parliament againft the late t * ' __, 
' unlawful Engagement againft your Nation. O&ober. 

* For a long Time there hath been a Mixture of 

* Malignants joined with us in our Councils, which 
' hath been the Root of all our Evils and Troubles, 
' and a chief Means to beget a Mifundcrftanding 

* betwixt the Kingdoms; but we truft in God it 
' fhall be fo no more. 

' We do return unto you of this Kingdom our 
'. hejrty Thanks for the willing and ready Offer of 
' Afiiftance you v/ere pleafed to make unto us, by 
' your Votes of the 28th cf Septemher laft, com- 
' municated to us by Lieutenant-General Crtm- 
' well; and we do eaincftly defire the Right Ho- 
' nourable the Houfcs of Parliament to reft aflured, 
1 that, next under God, we place our greateft 
' Strength for carrying on the Works cf Reforma- 
' tion, ;md fettling the Peace of this Kingdom, in a 

* firm Conjunction and hearty Correfpondency with 
4 our Brethren of England. 

' We are informed that the Honourable Houfes 
are treating with the King upon the Propofitions 
' formerly prefented unto his Majefty, by Commif- 
? fioners of both Kingdoms, at Hampton -Court ; 
' wherein we truft they will not proceed to a final 
' Agreement without having Regard to the Intereft 

* of this Kingdom : But above all we hold it our 
' Duty ferioufly to recommend to both Houfes of 
4 Parliament, that as they defire a Blcffing from 
' Heaven upon their Proceedings, they be fpecially 
' careful that the Propofi ions concerning the Co- 
' venant and Reformation of Religion be fettled and 
e agreed on in the firft Place, before all Interefts 
' whatfoever ; and fo foon as we (hall underftand 

* that Matters are in a hopeful Way of Agreement 

* betwixt his Majefty and his Kingdoms, we (hall 
' be ready to contribute our utmoft Endeavours for 
' that End. 

* The late Engagement of the Forces of the 
'Duke of Hamilton againft you having ftopp'd all 



io6 

An. 24 Car. I. 
1648. 

Oftobcr. 



Their 



their Agent for 
tfeat Purp fe. 



The Parliamentary HISTORY 

Intercourfe betwixt us for a long Time, we know 
little of the true State of your Affairs ; wherefore 
we have fent; this Gentleman, Sir John ChieJIey of 
Kerfwcll, who hath been a Partaker with us in our 
Sufferings, and an a&ive Oppofer of the late 
Engagements, to attend the Honourable Houfes 
of Parliament, to give unto them an Account of 
our late Proceedings and prefent Condition, and to 
prefent our real Endeavours and fincere Refolu- 
tions to preferve inviolably the Union betwixt the 
two Kingdoms according to the Covenant and 
Treaties ; for which End we do defire the Hon- 
ourable Houfes to give full Credit and Truft ta 
him in all Things which he {hall fay in the mean 
Time, in the Name of 

Tour mojl affured Friends 

and bumble Strvants, 

Signed in the Name, and by 
the Warrant of the Com- 
mittee of Eflatu, by L o U D O N, Cane* 

Sir JOHM CHIESLEY'S LETTER ^CREDENCE. 



; W Hereas 



Edinburgh, Oft. 17, 
the Committee of Eftates of this 
Kingdom, confifting of fuch Members 
6 of Parliament as diflented from, and protefted ia 
( Parliament againft, the late unlawful Engagement 
' againft our Neighbour Nation of England, with 
4 whom we are joined in Covenant, have fourjd 

* it neceflary that fome be fpeedily employed from 

* this Kingdom to the Right Honourable Houfes 
of the Parliament of England, to inform them, 
' concerning our late Proceedings and the prefent 

* State of our Affairs ; and further, for preserving 
' and continuing a good Underftand ing betwixt the 

* Kingdoms : They do therefore give full Power, 

* Commiffion, and Charge to Sir John Chiejley of 

* Kerf Mell 9 forthwith to repair to the Kingdom of 



cf ENGLAND. 107 

* England^ with Power to him to endeavour the An - 2 4 Car. I. 

* effecting of the Ends aforefaid ; and further to do J * S * 

* all fuch other Affairs as are or fhall be, from Time 
4 to Time, committed unto him by the faid Com- 

* mittee of Eftates, according to the Inductions 
' now given, or which (hall be hereafter given, unto 
4 him ; holding firm and ftable whatfoever he fhall 
do conform to the faid Inftru&ions. 

Signed in the Name^ and by the Warranty of the 
Committee of Eftates, 

LOUDON, Cane. 9 

The Confederation of thefe Papers was put off 
to the next Day, when it was agreed by both 
Houfes, That they fhould all be referred to the 
Committee at Derby-Hcufe, who were appointed 
to receive what Sir John Chiejley had to deliver 
from the Committee of Eftates there, and report 
the fame to the Houfes. 

Next the Lords proceeded to that Claufe of the 
King's Anfwer to the Proportion concerning the 
Church, as related to the paffing of A6ts for the 
better Obfervation of the Lord's Day, and againft 
Innovations. The Senfe of the Houfe on this was, 
That the Commiffioners have Directions to know 
of the King what the particular Expreffions are 
which he excepts againft : And, concerning the 
Claufe about the Covenant, it being put to the 
Queftion, Whether to fend to the Commiffioners 
to prefs the King to pafs an Ar, for enjoining the 
taking of the Covenant with a Penalty ? it palled in 
the Negative. 

Qtt. 27. The Commons refumed the Debate Debate o n th 
upon the Proportion concerning the Church, andKing'i Anfwcr* 
came to this Refolution thereupon, * That the a$ to the Sale of 
King's Anfwer to that Part of the Proportion con- B pl Land 
cerning giving his Confent to the Ordinances for 
fettling the Lands of the Bifhops upon Truftees, 
for the Ufe of the Commonwealth, and for ap- 
pointing the Sale of thofe Lands, is not fatisfac- 
torv ; and that the Commiffioners do prefs his Ma- 

jcfty 



1 08 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

. Car. i. j e fty to give his full Confent to thofe Ordinances as 

by the Propofition,' 

Then Mr. Swinfcn reported to the Houfe the 
Particulars of their DifTatisfaction in his Majefty's 
Anfwer to that Part of the Propofition for the 
Church, concerning the abolifhing of Bifhops, to 
be fent by way of Inftru&ion to the Commiflioners 
in the Ifle of JVight^ which were read and appro- 
ved of as follows : 

' The Houfcs upon ferious Confidcration and 
Debate had upon the King's laft Anfwer to the 
Propofition concerning the taking away and abo- 
lifhing Bifhops, and fettling Prefbyterian Church- 
Government, have voted, That it is unfatisfac- 
tory. And in regard the King, in his faid An- 
fwer, hat rather framed a new Propofition than 
confented to that prefented unto him by the Houfes, 
wherein yet he grants fome Part of what the 
Houfes defire ; that the Houfes may manifeft the 
Clearnefs of their Proceedings in this Treaty, and 
their earneft Defires of a blefled Peace, they do 
aflign the Particulars wherein, as to that Part of 
the King's Anfwer, their main DifTatisfa&ion 
refteth. 

1. ' That the King doth not utterly abolifti the 
Function and Power of Bifhops (a) [as they were 
formerly in Ufe'] within the Kingdoms of England 
and Ireland, and Dominion of Wales ; but only 
fufpendeth the Exercife of their Function, as to 
Ordination, for the Term of three Years, and no 
more j and the Exercife of their Power as to other 
Things, [for the fold Term of three Years'], and 
untill fuch Time as himfelf and the two Houfes of 
Parliament (hall agree upon any other Settlement. 

2. ' That, during the Term of tnree Years, the 
King may make Bifhops in the old Manner ; and, 
at the End of three Years, the Exercife of their 
Function, as to the Point of Ordination in the old 
Manner, is revived in fuch of the old Bifhops as 
(hall be then living, and in fuch other new Bifhops 

as 

fa] The firft Paffage between Crotehct* wa If ft oyf; an* the c,thei 
>dded, by Defive of the Lords, 



of ENGLAND. 109 

as the King hath or {hall, make, it being only ex- An- 2+ Car. I. 

prefled that they (frill not ordain without the ( l6 ^' t 

Council and Affiftance of Preibyters, which alfo was oftober. 
practifed formerly. 

3. ' That the Form of Church-Government, 
prefentcd to the King by the Houfes, is. by his An- 
fwer, limited only to the Term of three Years ; and 
that, at the End thereof, Provifion is only made for 
Ordination in a \Vay different from what the Houics 
have propofed, and no certain Way fettled for any 
other Thing concerning Ecclefiaftical Difcipline and 
Government, which will be as neceflary to be pro- 
vided as that of Ordination. 

* And this the Houfes do judge at the End of 
three Years, will expofe the Kingdom to new Di- 
ffractions, which they defire may be prevented in 
this Peace. 

' You are hereby authorized to acquaint his 
Majefty herewith, and to prefs him to a full An- 
fwer in pafling the Church-Government, and abo- 
liihing of Bifhops, as is propounded by the Pro- 
pofition.' 

Next the Houfe proceeded to that PafTage of the TIie ufe of t{ie 
King's Anfwer, wherein his Majefty required the common Prayer 
Ufe of the Common Prayer in his own Chapel in his Majefty'* 
only. Againft this it was faid, < The Common Chapel only> 
Prayer was as bad as the Mafs ; and that if it 
fhould be permitted at Court, it were but to reject 
one Idol, and fet up another ;' urging moreover, 
* That the Houfe had entered into a Covenant for 
the eftabliftiing of Uniformity, which there would 
be little Hope of fettling, when the King's Cha- 
pel fhould become a Pattern for other Places and 
Churches to follow. 

Hereupon it was refolved, * That the King's 
Anfwer to that Part of the Proportion touching 
the public Ufe of the Directory, and the taking 
away of the Book of Common Prayer, wherein he 
defines to continue the Ufe thereof for himfelf and 
his Houmold, untill another public Form of Prayer 
ihould be agreed on by his Majefty and his two 
Houfes, is unfatisfa&ory,' 

Then 



Ho The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. Then it was further refolved, ' That his Ma- 

1648. ^ jefty's Anfwer to that Part of the Proportion as con- 

Oftober. cerns his confirming, by Act of Parliament, the 

Articles of Chriftian Religion, is. not fatisfa&ory ; 

The Articles of an ^ that the Commiffioners do prefs the King to give 

Religion, his full Confer t thereunto.' 

The next Point that came upon the Carpet was 

that Claufe of the King's Anfwer, wherein he pro- 

ii'iifd to pafs an At for the preventing the Saying 

The Queen's be- f Mafs in the Court, or any other Part of this 

jag allowed Mafs Kingdom, or the Kingdom of Ireland ; only, he 

%* Wn Fa " exce P ted the Queen and her Family, that thofe few 

of them, which were of her Profeflion, might have 

the free Exercife of their Religion, according to the 

Articles of Marriage agreed on betwixt the two 

Crowns of England and France. 

Againft this it was alledged, c That the Godly 
Party of the Kingdom ever difliked the Marriage it- 
felf, when it was firft in Agitation ; but much more 
when they were informed of this Article for bring- 
ing of Idolaters and Idolatry into the Court, which 
had been the Caufe of all thofe Miferies and Di- 
ftra&ions ; and that if it fhould be admitted any 
more, Superftition and Corruption would foon re- 
ceive Countenance, and grow up again in Church 
and Commonwealth ; to the great Grief of the 
Godly, the Scandal of the Reformation, and the 
Breach of the Covenant, by which the Houfe was 
bound to the utter Extirpation of Popery.' 

To which it was replied, ' That by the Extirpa- 
tion of Popery was meant the fupprefling it from 
being received into any eftablilhed Form of the 
Kingdoms, or having any Countenance or public 
Toleration by Authority, to the Prejudice of the 
Reformation j but not the excluding of particular 
Tolerations upon Confiderations of State j efpe- 
cially fo eminent a one as this, in favour of the 
Queen, upon her Marriage.' Befides, it was 
urged, * That it was unreafonabie to deny the 
Queen the Exercife of her Religion, unlefs it were 
meant {he {hould never return into the Kingdom ; 
and fure none would be fo harfh and unchriltian as 

to 



of ENGLAND. in 

to keep her a banifhed Woman from her Hufband An. 24 Car. 1. 
for ever.' 

But this Argument had no Weight with the 
Commons, for they refolved, c That the Houfe, 
out of their Deteftation to that abominable Idol the 
Mafs (b), doth declare, that they cannot admit of, 
or confent unto, any fuch Exemption in any Law* 
as isdefired by his Majefty, for exempting the Queen 
and her Family out of fuch Act or Acts, as are de- 
fired by the Propofition to be parted, for a ftricter 
Courfe to prevent the hearing or faying of Mafs in 
the Court) or any other Part of this Kingdom, or 
the Kingdom of Ireland ; that his Majefty's An- 
fwer thereunto is not fatisfactory ; and that the 
Commiflioners do prefb his Majefty to give his full 
Confent to that Part of the Propofition, as it is 
there defired.' 

At laft they came to the Covenant, which occa- 
fioned a very hot Debate, in which it was infifted 
upon, ' The King ought not only to take it him- 
felf, but pafs an Act for impofmg it throughout the 
Kingdom.' Againft this it was argued, c As a 
moft urireafonable and unjuft Thing to urge the 
Covenant upon the King, when many Members 
of both Houfes, and of the Army, who had refufed 
to take it, had been efteemed the better for it, and 
judged the fitteft Men for public Employments 5 
and many of thofe who hud taken it were looked 
upon with an evil Eye, and as Men averfe to the 1 
public Interefts : And that the Oath and Covenant 
was not made, nor intended, for the King to take ; 
but that it was a Solemn Stipulation betwixt the 
Subjects of both Kingdoms only, as appeared by 
the Preamble of it, We the Noblemen, Knights, 
Citizens, Burgeffes, &c.' To this it being anfwer- 
ed, That the Houfe could alter that, when the 
King would confent to the taking of it ;' feveral 
Members argue, ' That though the Houfe could 

alter 

(V) Thefc Wordi were added upon the Motion of Sir Henry Mild- 
may, Mr. Gourdon, and Alderman Ptnnin^ton i But were after- 
wards altered by the Lordi thus, tbat abtminablt Idolatry uf<d ;-. 
Che Mafj, 



i66o. 



Oaober. 



1 1 2 The Parliamentary H i s T 6 R ir 

An. 21 Car, I. alter the Preamble of the Covenant, yet they couM 
not the Contents and Subftance of it; and in them 
were many Things contained very improper for 
the King to fwear to ; as the Maintenance of his 
own Perfon, Honour, Crown, and Dignity ; which 
would be abfurd, fmce Self-Love and Prefervation 
is ingrafted in every Man by Nature: And that if 
his Majefty was to take the Covenant, and fwcar 
to maintain his own juft Rights and Prerogatives^ 
according to the Tenor of it, then if he conceived 
any of thofe Things demanded by the Houfes to be 
his juft Rights, he was bound to deny them ; from 
whence it appeared that the Covenant was never 
intended for the King to take ; and if he did take 
any it muft be a new one, or the old one altered j 
which they ought to have done before they fent the 
Proportions, that his Majefty might have known 
\vhat Part of the Covenant they intended to impofe 
upon him, before he fhould make a Promile to 
take it.' ' 

Hereupon Mr. Gourdon ftood up, and dcfired 
Leave to fpeak to the firfr of thofe Arguments, 
* How that there was not the fame Reafon for pref- 
fmg the Covenant upon the .Members of the Houfes 
and the Army, as upon the King ; and that was 
becaufe the main Claufe of it is againft the introduc- 
ing of Popery, of which none was, or is, fufpe&ed 
but the King ;' (and in this he was fupported by 
many of the Prefbyterian Party, out of their Zeal 
for the Covenant :) But to hkn, who was a known 
Champion for the Independents, it was frnartly re- 
plied, ' That, on the fame Ground, all the Mem- 
bers of both Houfes, and of the Army, ought to take 
the Covenant, as well as the K'ng ; becaufe there 
was a fpecial Claufe in it for the fuppreffmg of all 
Here/ies and Schifms.' 

At laft the Debate ended with this Refolution, 
c That the King's Anfwer touching the Cove- 
nant was not fatisfaciory : And a Comrriittee was 
appointed to confider how, and in what Manner, 
the Covenant could be framed, fo as that it might be 
prefented to the King, to be taken by him.' 

From 



AH which the 

Commons vote 
unfatisfa&ory. 



^/ENGLAND. 113 

From the Arguments in the foregoing Debate in- An, 44 Car. 1. 
Tiding upon the King's taking the Covenant, this l6 * 8 ' 
Obfervation arifes : The Independents, who were 
Enemies to it themfelves, preffed it upon his Ma- 
jefty, hoping thereby to throw upon him the Odium 
of oppofing a Peace, and preventing any good Suc- 
cefs of the Treaty. The Prefbyterians, though 
they wim'd for an Accommodation with the King, 
yet would not, even to obtain that End, give up the 
Covenant, of which themfelves had been the firft 
Promoters, and whereon they founded their Hopes 
bf the Continuance and Eftablifhment of their dar- 
ling Plan of Church- Government. From this U-> 
hion of fo contradictory Interefts the contemporary 
Author, to whom we are obliged for the Minutes of 
thefe Debates (c], foretold, at this very Time, that 
the Treaty would prove fruitlefs, and the King be 
foon after crulh'd between the two Parties. 

Oft. 28. The Refolutions of the Commons ofi 
the 26 and 2yth, being fent up to the Lords u 
for Concurrence, they agreed to them all with fome t h emj except n 
little Alterations, (already taken Notice of) except to the Sale of 
that concerning the Sale of Bifliops Lands, which Blfllo P Landt< 
they refpited to further Confideration. 

The fame Day the Lords fent a Meflage to the 
Commons, fignifyingj That in Confequence of the 
Vote for proceeding againft only feven Perfons as 
to the taking away Life 4 in the firft Branch of the 
Propofition concerning Delinquents, they had 
named the Lord Cottington, Lord Digby, Sir Ro- 
bert Heath, Sir Francis Doddington, Sir Gecrge 
Radclife, Sir Richard Greenville, and Sir Charles 
Dallifon, Hereupon a Member faid, The Lords Debate n the 
had acted as Betrayers and Deluders of the King- feven Delin- 
dom, by naming feven of the old Delinquents who JobL^ 
were, every Man of them, out of their Power ;' the Lords, 
and a Debate arifing whether they fhould name 
feven more out of the new Delinquents, the Lord 
Goring was named as one ; which being objected 
to, Serjeant Nicholas flood up and faid, \Vhat, 
VOL. XVIII. H Mr. 

(e) Merttritti Prfprtaticm, No. 31. 



1 1 4 'The Parliamentary HISTORY 

Aa. 14 Car. I. Mr; Speaker, fhall we fpare the Man who raifed a 

t l648 ' fecond War more dangerous thari the firft, and 

Ottober. cudgelled us into a Treaty (d) ?' However, a Motion 
being made, That there be an Addition of Names 
to the firft Branch of the Propofition concerning 
Delinquents, it pafled in the Negative without a 
Divifion. 

Letters relating At this Time the Parliament was alarmed with 

totheMarquisofN ews from Ireland, bringing an Account of the 

ingTrTireknd, " Marquis of Ormondes landing there, and his making 

to make Peace Peace with the Rebels in that Kingdom. His 

with the Rebels Lordfhtp's original Letter was fent, addrefled to one 

of their Chiefs, and inclofed in the following from 

Col. Jones, which were all read : 

To the Right Hon. WILLIAM LENTHALL Efq ; 
Speaker of the Honourable the COMMONS Houfe in 
Parliament, 

Honourable Sir, Dublin, Off. 18, 1648. 

1 N my laft of the 4th Inftant, I reprefented the 
' 1 prefent Wants of this your Army, both irt 

* Men and Money ; wherein now again I moft 
' earneftly defire we may be fupplied, and that with 
' all convenient Speed, [confidering Ormond is now 
' arriving here, and the Defisns by him driven ap- 
' pearing in the inclcfed ; which are intended prin- 

* cipally to the Diftarbance of your Affairs here 
' His Lordfhip meeting with the Irijh Commilfiori- 
' ers, began on their Treaty on Monday the i6th 

* prefent ; after which (I have it on good Grounds) 

* all their Powers together are to be employed againft 

* this your fmull Party in this Province.] The 

* timely removing hence thofe of Ormond's Inftru- 

* ments, in whom he moft confided, will retard 
' him much in his Defign ; yet will it be alike, and 

* no lefs for his Advantage, if he has to work on a 

* neceilitated Party, fuch as this is, on whom large 

* Offers of plentiful Subfiftance (which ours have 
' not) may be much working. 

< There 

(<T) Alluding to the following Paflage !n an Intercepted Letter of 
Lord Going's, before given, Cudgel them inta a Treaty, and leave us 
to do tbt reft. 



^ENGLAND. 115 

' There are extraordinary and large Taxes laid, An. 24 Car. i. 

* by the Poll, in Irijh Quarters, for making up, it 
' is faid, the Sum of 60,000 /. for the Prince, who 
' is, by the Iri/b^ expe&ed here with his Fleet, as 
' foon as the Treaty is made up between them and 
' Ormond. . In this I am much confirmed, that all 
' herein defigned is principally for England. 

4 It is therefore nearly concerning you to pre- 
' vent this growing Evil, and that rather here, 
4 t'jan there, by fending hither^ with all Speed, 
4 what is for the Work ; particularly that we be 
' fupplied with Horfej (the Life of this Service) 
' our Troops here being weakened by a ft range 
' Difeafe, whereby fixty Horfes have mifcarried in 
' fo.me Troops confiding but of feventy-two to the 

* Troop. 

' This of Ormondes Arrival, and the Difcovery 
c made of his Defigns, have, for the prefent, di- 

* verted niy Intentions for advancing in Perfon \ 
' that thereby this Place (to be principally fecured) 
' may be provided for, and other Things prepared 

* neceflary for a Meeting with that Army, or thofe 
4 Defigns of the Rebels fo much fpoken of. In 
1 the mean Time I ftlall vifit their Quarters with 

* ftrong Parties, fent out on all Hands, for burning 

* and deftroying of their Corn and what may W 
' clfe for their Siibfiftance or Accommodation j 

* whereof I truft ere long, by God's AfTiftancej to 

* give you fome good Account ; fo I rett 

Your mojl humble and faithful Servant^ 

MICHAEL JONES. 

Lord ORMOND'J LETTER. 

To our very loving Friend Sir Richard Blake, Knt. 
Chairman to the Ajfembly of the Confederate Ro/nan 
Catbolicks, now at Kilkenny. 

' AFTER our very hearty Commendation':, 

* L\ b-ing arrived in this kingdom, qiialihcd 
' wilh Power to treat and conclude a Pcucc with 

Ha 'jhe 



1 1 6 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. I.* the Confederate Roman Catholicks, or fuch as 
l6 4-S- * fhall be deputed and authorized by them in that 

*"T3X ' ' Behalf, we have thought fit, by thefe our Letters, 
' to defire you to make the fame known to the Af- 
4 fembly of the faid Confederate Reman Catholicks 
' now at Kilkenny : As alfo that, in purfuance of 
4 the Paper of the I3th of Mtiy luft, delivered to 
4 their Commiffioners at St. Germain' j, we expefl 
' to receive from them, by Perfons fully authorized 
4 to treat and conclude, fuch Propofitions as they 

* (hall think fit at our Houfe at Carr'uk ; whither 

* we intend to remove for the better Accommodation 

* and more fpeedy Difpatch of this Affair, as foon 
. ' as we fhall be advertiied by you of the Time vvhert 

* we fhall expect them there, which we defire may 

* be with all convenient Expedition. We remain 

* at Cork this 4th of Ottober^ 1648, 

Your very loving Friend^ 

O R M O N D, 

A LETTER of Intelligence. 

To the Honourable Colonel MICHAEL JONES, Chief 
*, Commander of the Forces of Leinften 



Oft. 10, 1648. 
Honourable Sir^ 

* I Have, given ---- a Meeting at Maynoutb^ 

* J. whofe Relation is, That great Preparations are 
4 now in Agitation in Kilkenny againft your Honour 

* and Party : ^ nd that Preflon and Owen Roe have 
' agreed, and that their Intent is to fall on your 
c Army fo foon as it fhall march , That 2COO 
4 Horfe and Dragoons are to be this next Week in 
' Readinefs to come into your Honour's Quarters, 

* only to deftroy and ruin ; and that the Lord of 
c Inckiquin was on Sunday Lift at Kilkenny^ and 

* Proportions are between Ormond and the Irljh 
4 Council. But he doth abfolutely aflure me, that 
4 they all join againft your Honour and Party, whom 
4 God, I truft, will ever, as hitherto, favour and 

4 defend. 



^ENGLAND. 117 

* defend. If it be your Honour's Pleasure we will An. 24 dr. I, 

* go to Kilkenny this next Week, and within ten .. * 6 * 8 '. , 

* Days give your Honour an Account of all Things ; oaob<r. 
' which I thought fit to acquaint your Honour with- 

* all, and will ever reft, 

Tour Honour's mojl humll: Servant, 



P. 5. c They defire the Original Letter may be 
* returned.* 

On reading; of the above-written Letters, both , ., ,. 

ri r i i r i /" ru /v. i i i -*^ e " ar '!3me 

Houfes thought fit that Copies of them (hould be de fi re the Kin 
lent to their Commifiioners in the Ifle of IVight j to declare pub- 
with Inftruaions to (h,ew them to the King, and ^}\^ 

. * * , i TT r * i i T i i"*t J^oru S 

acquaint him, that the Houfes judge this rroceed- 
ing fo contrary to an Adi of this prefent Parliament, 
and fo deftri^ive to a fpeedy and effectual Reduce- 
ment of the Rebels there, that they defire his 
Majefty's public Declaration againft any fuch Power, 
and againit the Proceedings of the Lord Ormond in 
this Matter. They alfo ordered a Supply of Money 
and Provifions for Col. Jones. 

Off. 30. At the Dcfa of the Lords a Conference 
was held with the Commons, concerning their Re- al 
folution of the 2yth, relating to the Salcof BiQiops toon* R^fo^tio 
Lands, which their Lordfhips faid they could not" T3ucJ " 1T iS ihc 
agree to, for the following Rcafons : 

Fir/fj ' Bc'caufe they had not had Time to de- 
bate it, in regard it was necefTary to difpatch away 
Sir Peter Kiliigrew forthwith, to deliver the Senfe 
of the Houfes upon the other Particulars, that the 
Treaty might not be at a Stand now it was almoft 
expired. 

Secondly, * Bccaufc his Majcfty being (tumbled 
moft of all at the Alienation of Church Lands, it 
were more convenient to put this off to the lad, 
and to endeavour a Concluiion in other Things 
that related more nearly to the fettling of the 
Security and P.:.ice of the Kingdom ; and they de- 
fired that thole Con/.effions of the King's might 
H 3 not 



1 1.8 7%e Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 5.4. Car. I. no t be loft : Neverthelefs they would ftill keep their 
1 ^ f Engagements formerly made in this Particular, by 
O#ob?r. endeavouring to gain his Majefty's Confent to an 
Act for the Sale of Bifhops Lands ; yet think it not 
fit to prefs it for the prefent, becaufe, if an Agree- 
ment cannot be had therein, fome other Ways 
may be thought on to fatisfy his Majefty's Con- 
fcience, and the Expectations of the Purchafers and 
Contractors, rather than the Kingdom mould run 
any furiher Hazard by an unhappy Breach or the 
Treaty. 

The Commons returning to their own Koufe, 
and a Report being made of thefe Reafons, feveral 
Members expredcd great Refentment againft the 
Lords. Col. Harvey faid, ' They had had Time 
enough to debate the Refolution relating to the 
Sale of Bifhops Lands ;' and added, * That he 
conceived thefe Reafons were hatched under a ma- 
lignant Planet/ Mr. Edward Ajhe faid, ' He 
wondered the Lords fhculd at any Time delay their 
Concurrence to what the Commons judged necef- 
fary for the Good of the Kingdom ; and therefore 
propoftd fending up a Mefiage to defire another 
Conference, to give Reafcns againft thofe of the 
Lords i which if they rejected, he hoped the Com- 
mons would fend away their own Rrfolutions 
withot't (laying for their Concurrence.' Hereupon 
another Ccnilrence was voted and held the fame 
Day, at which the Commons urg'd, That their 
Lordfhips had concurred formerly with them, in 
an Ordinance foi aboliflaingof Biftiops ; that upon 
the Authority of that Ordinance, moft of the Lands 
h_ad been contracted tor and fold ; in Pofleilion 
whereof the Purchafers could not hope to reft fecure 
fo long as the King denied his Confent, becaufe if 
the Purchafers of thefe Lands were to be confider'd 
only as Leflees, according to the King's Propofi- 
tion, there would be perpetual Endeavours amcng 
the malignsnt Party to reftore Bifnops again, which 
he abfolute Sale of thefe Lands would effectually 
prevent. And moreover, if his Majefty meant to 
confent to their Defires at all, in regard to this 

Bufinefs, 



^ENGLAND. 119 

Bufinefs, there was the more Reafon to prefs him An - 2 3 Car - ' 
upon it prefently, than put it off to the laft ; con- t 1648. ^ 
fidering the Prejudices it might raife againft the oabei. 
Parliament in the Opinion of the People, in cafe 
the Houfes did not agree with the King in the Clofe 
of the Treaty ; which the Commons would hardly 
do without his Majefty's Concurrence in fo neccfTary 
and eminent a Particular : And that for thefe Rea- 
fons they had refolved to adhere to their former 
Vote, and to defire again their Lordftiips Concur- 
rence therein, that Ib the whole might be fent 
away to the King.'- 

The Conference being over, the Lords fell into TO which the 
Debate again upon the Refolution, fent up by the Lords, at kit 
Commons, concerning the King's Anfwer touching aree * 
the Ordinance for the Sale of Bifhops Lands; and 
the Queftion being put for agreeing thereto, it 
parted in the Affirmative, the Earl of Lincoln and 
the Lord Maynard only diflenting. After which 
their Lordfhips fent down to acquaint the other 
Houfe, That being unwilling, at this Conjuncture 
of Time, to retard the Bufinefs of the Treaty, they 
had concurred in that Vote: And defired that all 
the Re'olutions and Inftru&ions, parted on the 27111, 
might be fent away forthwith to the King, in-, 
clofed in a Letter to their Commiflioners, to be 
figned by both Speakers, which was done accord- 
ingly. 

In the Beginning of this Month the Parliament 
had refolved to fill up the vacant Seats in the Courts 
of Juftice at Wejlmiujler, there being only five Parliament 
Judges furyiving who ailed under their Authority, 
viz, Mr. Juftice Rolle and Mr. Juftice Bacon of the 
King's Bench, Mr. Juftice Pheafant of the Common 
Pleas, Baron Trevor and Baron dtkins of the Exche- 
quer. In order thereto a confiderable Number of 
Barrifters of Grey's Inn, the two Temples, and Lin- 
coln's Inn, were ordered to be call'd to the Degree 
ef Serjeants at Law. Some of thefe were named 
\i\ the Houfe of Lords, and others in that of the 
H 4 Common?, 



1 2Q *fbe Parliamentary H i s T o R V 

*' 6*8**' * Commons, but tne y na ^ tne Concurrence of both 
Houfes previous to their Admifiion to that Dignity ; 
and were afterwards fworn in by Mr. Wbitlocke^ one 
of the Commiflioners of the Great Seal (d). 

At the End of this Month an Ordinance pafled 
both Houfes for advancing Mr. Juftice Rolle, of 
the King's Bench, to be Chief Juftice in the room 
of Sir yobn Brain/Ion who had refign'd, and for 
appointing Serjeant Jermyn and Mr. Samuel Browne 
to be Juftices of that Court ; Mr. Solicitor St. John 
was alfo made Chief Juftice of the Common Pleas, 
Serjeant Crefwfll and Sir Thomas Beddingfield, Ju- 
ftices thereof ; Serjeant Wylde, Chief Baron of the 
Exchequer, and 'Thomas Gates, Efq ; a Baron. 

Under the Proceedings of the i8th of this Month 
we took Notice of a remarkable Petition, prefented 
to General Fairfax, from Commiflary-Gencral Ire- 
ton's Regiment, particularly aimed againft the King's 
Perfon. And about this Time the Attack was fol- 
lowed by another, which runs thus : (>) 

To bis Excellency the Lord F 4 I R A x, <wr Noble 
General. 

The HUMBLE PETITION of the Officers of Col. In- 
goldfby'j Regiment in behalf of themfelves and 
private Soldiers, now lying in the Garrijon of 
Oxford. 



A Petition from 
Col. Jngold%'s 
Regiment, to 
Lord Fairfax, for 
Juftico upon the 
King and his 
Party. 



Sbewethj 

THAT your Excellency's Endeavours, and 
ours, for common Freedoms, have been 
fo hazardous to us, fo chargeable to the People^ 
and fo wonderfully owned by God himfelf, that 
once before, and now again, God hath given us 
a total Victory over the Enemies of our Liber- 
ties, and given thofe into our Hands that would 
have enflaved us ; fo that nothing remains to 
be done to make and keep us, and all the honeft 

* People 

(d) Memerta/s, p. 340, (t fey. 

(e) From the Original Edition, printed for R. Leybourft, 



o/* E N G L A N D. 121 

* People of the Nation, Freemen ; and to make the /n - *.4 ^ ar - 1- 
' Hazards of our Lives, and Lofs of fo much Blood, v _ '-__ 
' to be effectual to us, but an immediate Care that October. 

' Juftice be done upon the principal Invaders of our 

* Liberties, namely, the King and his Party, whom 
' the Parliament hath formerly declared Non-Ad- 

* drefles to ; The Army likewife declared to live 

* and die with them in the Profecution thereof. 

' That likewife fufficient Caution and ftrait 
' Bonds be given to future Kings, for preventing 
' the enflaving of the People hereafter : And that 
' Grounds of Encouragement be given to the People 
' of fucceeding Generations, for defending them- 
' felves againft the like Attempt; then might we 

* with Chearfulnefs return to our feveral Callings, 
4 hoping to live in Peace, blefling God for his 
' Goodnefs. 

' But 'we are almoft paft Hopes of obtaining thefe 
6 Things and it cannot but lie heavy upon our 
' Spirits, to apprehend that all our Harveft (hould 

* end in Chafl^ and what was won in the Field 

* fhould be given away in a Chamber ; for the 
' Treaty now in Hand is the Matter of our prefent 

* Doubts ; the Iffue of it can neither be juft nor 
4 fafe : And feeing that upon the well or ill clcfing 

* of our late and yet continued Diflraclions, de- 

* pends the outward Weal or Woe of us and cur 
' Pofterity ; and that it is a Thing which oue;ht to 

* be looked after, as to the making fuccefsfull all 
* our former Victories which God hath bleiled us 

* with : 

We therefore humbly pray your Excellency, 

* That you would be pleafed to re-eftablifh a ge- 

* neral Council of the Army under your Command, 

* to confider of fome effectual Reuicdies hereunto ; 
' either by reprefenting the fame to the Houfe of 

* Commons, as the Petitioners of London, and di- 

* vers other Places have done, or by fuch other 
< Way as your Excellency with your Council (hall 
' think fit, in a Bufinefs of fo high Concernment 
to three Nations j having expended fuch vaft 

* Quan- 



122 

An. 24 Car. I. 

fc >648 - 
November. 



^The Parliamentary HISTORY 

Quantities of Blood and Treafure, in hopes of 
better Things, 

And your Petitioners, fnall pray, &c. 

The Confequences of this and other Petitions, 
of the like Nature, will fully appear in the Tranf- 
aftions of the next Month, when they were all 
digefted into one large Remonftrance, and fent by 
Lord Fairfax to the Houfe of Commons, 

November i. Both Houfes agreed in the follow- 
ing Refolutions : 

1. ' That the King's Anfwer to the Propofition 
concerning Delinquents is unfatisfa&ory in all the 
Claufes thereof, except that Claufe wherein his 
Majefty gives his Confent that all Perfons, who 
have had any Hand in plotting, defigning, or aflift- 
ing the Rebellion in Ireland {hall expect no Par- 
don, as is exprefled jn the firft Branch of the faid 
Propofition, 

2. 4 That Sir John Strangways be taken out of 
the Propofition concerning Delinquents. 

3. * That thofe Perfons, named in the firft 
Branch of the Propofition concerning Delinquents, 
that are Proteftants, except thofe that {hall be ex- 
cepted from Pardqn, {hall be admitted to Compo- 
fition. 

4. ' That thofe Perfons named in the fiHt 
Branch of the Propofition concerning Delinquents, 
that are Proteftants, except thofe that {hall be ex- 
cepted from Pardon, {hall be admitted to com- 
pound at a full Moiety of their Eftates (f). 

5. ' That all Papifts and Popifli Recufauts, who 
have been, or now are, a&ually in Arms, or vo- 
luntarily affifting, againft the Parliament of Eng-r 
\and^ except fuch who have had any Hand in the 
plotting, defigning, or affifting the Rebellion of 
Ireland^ and except fuch as {hall be excepted from 
Pardon, {hall be admitted to Compofition. 

6. < That 

(f) When this Refoluticn pafled in the Houfe of Commons, a Mo- 
tion was made that the Terms of Gompofition fhould be two 
Thirds which was carried in the Negative by 85 Voices on}y 
87. 



^ENGLAND. 123 

6. c That all Papifts and Popifli Recufants, who An. 24 Car. I. 
have been, or now are, actually in Arms, or vo- t I 4 ' 
luntarily affifting, againft the Parliament of Eng- Novem b CT . 
land, except fuch as have had any Hand in plotting, 
designing, or afiifting the Rebellion of Ireland^ and 
except fuch as fn?.l! be excepted from Pardon, fhall . 

be admitted to compound at a full two Third-parts 
of their Eftates. 

7. l That the Perfons, named and comprized 
within the Proportion concerning Delinquents, 
who, by the faid Proportion, were to compound at 
two Thirds of their Eftates, and are not difchar- 
ged, (hall be admitted to compound at a full third 
Part of their Eftates. 

8. * That thofe Perfons, who, by the Propofition 
concerning Delinquents, were to pay the full Moi- 
ety of their Eftates, (hall be admitted to compound 
at a full third Part of their Eftates. 

9. * That the Houfes do infift upon that Part of 
the Propofition, that appoints that all Lawyers, 
Clergymen, and Scholars, fhall pay a full third Part 
of the Value of their Eftates. 

jo. ' That the Houfes do infift, that the Per- 
fons appointed, by the Propofition concerning De- 
linquents, to pay a full fixth Part of the Value of 
their Eftates, {hall fo continue to compound at a 
full fixth Part. 

11. ' That the Houfes to infift upon the reft of 
the Propofitions concerning Delinquents, in all the 
Parts wherein the Houfes have made no Alteration ; 
and that the Commiffioners be deftred to prefs the 
King to give his Confent thereunto. 

12. * That the firft of February, 1648, be now 
the Day limited to the Perfons to come in, that are 
admitted, by the Propofition concerning Delin- 
quents, to compound. 

Ordered^ by the Lords and Commons afiembleil . 
in Parliament, That thefe Votes be fent to the 
Commiflioners in the Ifle of Wight y with Power to 
them to communicate them to the King.' 

Nov. 2. More Refolutions concerning the Trea- 
ty were agreed to by both Houfes. 

I. 'That 



124 *Tke Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. I. i. * That the Treaty be continued for fourteen 

l6 **- f Days longer j and that, in this Time, the Houfes 

* Nov mber ' w '^ conflder of the Proportions that came from the 
King, to which there is not yet an Anfwer ; and 
The Treaty con- w '^ coniidcr of fuch other Propofitions as the Houfes 
tinned for four- {hall think neceflary for the fettling of a fafe and 
teaiDays longer. W ell-grounded Peace. 

2. ' That the Commiflioners of both Houfes r 
now in the Ifle of f^ight^ be written unto, that 
they may make their fpeedy Repair to the Houfes 
refpe&ively, and demand the King's final Anfwer 
according to the laft Inftru&ions, and afterwards to 
return back with the Houfes Refolution there- 
upom 

3. ' That the Commiflioners do communicate 
thefe Votes to the King, and defire his Confent 
thereunto in point of Time. 

Votes in confe- * 4. That his Majcfty's Anfwer, contained in 

xTn^Antwer a ^^ of the "* of Offober, 1648, to the Pro- 

AB to Ireland', ' pofition delivered in by the Commiflioners, in a 

Paper of the 9th of Ofiober^ 1648, concerning /r*- 

land) is fatisfa<3x>ry. 

The Payment of 5, Tha^ the K,ing's Anfwer to the Propofition, 
public Debts, concerning the Payment of the public Debts, is fa- 

tisfaclory (^), 

Komination of 5^ c That 'the King's Anfwer to th<? Propofition, 
c cers> concerning the Nomination of Officers, is not fa- 

tisfalory. 

And theCourt of 7' * That the Houfe do confent to the King's 
Wards. Anfwer, as to the taking away of Wards and Li- 

veries ; and, in lieu thereof do agree that 100,000 /. 
per Annum be fettled on the King, his Heirs, and 
Succeflbrs, according to the Anfwei' of the King to 
this Propofition j the fame to be fettled by Act of 
Parliament, to be raifed in fuch Manner as fliali 
be thought fit by both Houfes of Parliament "j and 
Provifion therein made that the fame, nor any' Part 
thereof, be alienated from the Crown.' 

t When the Motion was made in the Houfe o 

Commons for pafling the laft of thefe Refolutions, 
Mr. Blackifton oppofqd it ; alledging, * That the 

Court 
(g) Upon thij Refolution the Commons divided, Yea? 8i, Noes 3 y 




of E N G L A N t). 

Court of VVards had been an exceeding great Grie- 

vance to the Kingdom, and one of the greateft _ 

Tyrannies over the People ; that, at firft, it was November. 

intended for the Good of Orphans, but had proved 

their Ruin and Deftru&ion ; that when the Cuf- 

tom of Wardfhips was firft fet on Foot, it was not 

meant that Kings fhould make a Prey of them 

and a Benefit to themfelves, but that they fhould 

take Care of the Eftatcs and Education of Orphans ; 

and therefore fincfe-what was devifed for a Remedy, 

had, by long Experience, appeared the very Bane 

of the Fatherlefs, it was uhreafonable for the King 

to expect any Recompence for the abolishing that 

Court ; which was never intended to be, tho' thro* 

Corruption of Time it had been made a Part of his 

Revenues.' However, the Resolution pafled with- 

out a Divifion. 

Nov. 3. The Speaker of the Koufe of Lords ac- 
quainted them that he had received a Packet from 
the Commifliorters in the Ifle of Wight ; which 
being opened was read. 

Par the Right Honourallc the -Eflr/^MANCHESTERi 
Speaker of th< Houfe of PEERS pro Tempore. 

My Lord, Newport, Nov. 2, 1648. 

* \Xf E have received your Lordfhip's Difpatch 

by Sir Peter Killigrew^ and purfued your 
Directions therein given us, as your Lordihip will 
4 fee by the feveral Papers herewith fent ; which will 

* give you a particular Account of ourProceedings; 
' This being all we have to offer at this Time, we 
' remain, sV.' 

\Sigrtd by all the Lords Commijjiomrs.'] 

Ybi COMMISSIONERS PAPER communicating to the 
King the Fetes upsn hit Anfwer to the Proportion 
fc>r the Church. 



Nsv. I, 1648. Papfr. from the 

: t J A V I N G tranfmitred to both Houfes of c " mmifiioncrs . 

! - ? a rl ?% y ur Majefty ' S final Anfwer ^SS-P*. 
tne 2 -it of O3 far laft, to the Proportions con - Traafacliom of 



126 *The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. e ceriiing the Church, we are by them commanded 
l6 4 8 - < to acquaint your Majefty with their Votes and 

^TI ^T ' ' Refolutions concerning the fame, which are as 
November. 

4 follow : 

Here the Comimffioners recite the Votes and In- 
Jlruftions, paj/ed on the 26th and 2jth of Octo- 
ber, which we have already given, and then 
proceed thns : 
4 We therefore humbly defire your Majefty to give 

* your full Confent to the feyeml Parts of the Pro- 
4 pofition mentioned in thefe Votes and Refolutions 

* of both Houfes of Parliament, according to our 
' former Defires contained in our Paper of the 2fth 
4 of September } concerning the Church/ 

*rke COMMISSIONERS PAPER, defiring the King 
to declare again/I the Marquis of Ormond's Pro- 
ceedings. 

Newport y Nov. i, 1648. 

* TP H E Houfes of Parliament having received 
' A a Difpatch out of Ireland, importing the 
4 Lord Ormond's Arrival in that Kingdom, qua- 
' lified with a Power to treat and conclude a Peace 

* with the Rebels there, have judged it contrary tb 
' an Act of this prefent Parliament, and dcftruc- 
' tive to a fpeedy Reducement of the Iri/h : Andj 

* according to Inftruclions which in that Behalf we 
' have received, we do humbly defire your Ma- 

* jefty's public Declaration againft any fuch Power^ 

* and againft the Proceedings of the (aid Lord Or- 

* mondy in Ireland. 

4 And we do herewith prefent your Majefty with 

* an Extract of a Letter from Col. Jones's^ Com- 

* mander in Chief of the Forces in Leinjlcr^ di- 

* reeled to the Speaker of the Houfe of Commons j, 
4 and dated from Dublin the i8th of Oftober laft ; 

* and aifo with Tnmfcripts of two Letters fent in- 
' clofed in the faid Letter of Col. Jones's ; the one 

* being of the Lord Ormond's Letter, dated from 
Cork the 4th of OSlober laft, and directed unto 

* Sir Richard Blake^ Knt, Chairman to the Af- 

* feinbly of the Confederate Roman Catholicks now 

4 at 



of ENGLAND. 127 

at Kilkenny ; the other, of a Letter from Maynoutb, Aa ' *4 c ? ar - ! 

< in Ireland, dated the 20th of Oftober. . ' * ' 

Thefe Letters are already given at large, from the November. 
Lords Journals, at p. 114: But it is obfervable 
that the CvmjniJJioners communicated to the King 
only that Part of the firft Paragraph of Colo- 
mel Jones's Letter to the Speaker, mark'd be- 
tween Crotchets, and the whole of the fecond \ 
all the reft being concealed from his Majefty for 
political Reafons. 

THE KING'S Paper touching the Expiration of 
the Treaty. 

CHARLES R. Newport, Nov. i, 1648. 

TLJ I S Maje/ly having received your Paper of the 
** firft of November, finds thereby that the Treaty 
ends on Saturday next : And therefore, conftdering the 
great Length and Weight of your Papers now deli- 
vered, and for that his Majefty hath had no Anfwsr 
to bis own Proportions fent to the two Houfes, his 
Majefty dejlres to know whether you have received 
any Inftruftlons concerning the fame, or for any En- 
largement of the Time of the Treaty ; and the rather y 
becaufe his Majefty is deftrous, before the giving any 
further Anfwer concerning the Buftnefs of the Church, 
fo far prejjed by his two Houfes, that the Primate of 
Armagh, /& Bijhop of Exeter, Bijhop of Worcefter, 
Bijhop of Rochefter, Dr. Femes and Dr. Morley, 
may be admitted unto him with all convenient Speed ; 
that fo his Majefty may receive all pojjible Information 
for clearing his Judgment, in a Matter fo nearly touch* 
ing him as that of his Conference. 

The COMMISSIONERS Paper, preffmg an Anfwer to 
their Propofttitn concerning the Church and the 
Tranfaftiom In Ireland. 

Newport, Nov. I, 1648. 

' T N Anfwer to your Majefty 's Paper given in 
' * this Day, we humbly fay, That we have nut 
* received any Inftrudiions concerning your Propo- 



128 *fbe Parliamentary Hi STORY 

An. Z4. Car. I. c pofitions, nor for the Enlargement of the Time of 
l6 **'- . J the Treaty : Therefore, fmce the Time of the 
' Treaty is fo near expiring, we again humbly defire 
c your Majefty's Anfwer to the Paper, this Day de- 
' livered, concerning the Church, and the Tranf- 
' actions now on foot in Ireland* 

[Sign'd by all the Commijfioneri.] 

The KING'S ANSWER to the COMMISSIONERS 
DESIRES concerning Lord ORMOND. 

CHARLES R. Newport, Nov. i, 1648. 

jrN Anfwer to your Paper Delivered in this Day, 
* concerning Ireland, his Majefty faith. That it if 
well known in what Place and in what Condition 
he h'ath continued for many Months before the Be- 
ginning of this Treaty ; and he doth declare , that ftnce 
the firfl Votes pajjed fcY the fame ', he hath not tranf- 
ailed any Affairs concerning that Kingdom, but with 
you the Commijjioners in relation to the Treaty itfelf. 
dnd his Majefy hath alrealy confented, if this Treaty 
receive a happy Conclufion, that his two Hoiifes of 
Parliament Jhall have the fole ordering arid managing 
of the Militia of Ireland, and the Profccutisn of 
the War there : And what fo ever his Majefty- hath 
confented unto upon thefe Proportions, he did it clearly, 
and doth fully refolve to make the fame good, if this 
Treaty end in a Peace ; but, in the mean Time, his 
Mayfly thinks it not reafonable that hejhould be prefs'd 
to make any fuch public Declaration, as by your Paper 
is dejired. 

COMMISSIONERS Paper, infifting en a more full 
Anfwer. 

Ne^vport, Ncv. i, 1648. 

4 T T AVING thts Day acquainted your Majefty 
' 1 1 with the Refolutions of both the Houfes of 

* Parliament, upon Information received of the 
^Lord of Ormondes Arrival in Ireland, and Pro- 

* ceedings there, with Power to treat and conclude 
*. a Peace with the Rebels, judged by them to be 

4 * ctn- 



of ENGLAND. 129 

f contrary to an Act of this prefent Parliament, and An. 24 ?**. I. 
4 deftru&ive to the fpeedy reducing of that King- * 6 ^' ^ 
4 dom, and therefore defiring your Majefty's pub- November. 

* lie Declaration againft any fuch his Power and 

* Proceeding : To which your Majefty's Anfwer 
4 doth give no Satisfaction, faying, It is not rea- 

* fonable you fhould be prefixed to it at this Time ; 
4 which we having endeavoured to make otherwife 
4 appear unto your Majefty in the Debate you have 
4 been pleafed to have with us upon that Subject, 
4 we do again humbly pray your Majefty to give 
4 us your full and fatisfactory Anfwer to it.' 

[Sign d by all the Commijjisners.] 

The KING'S Final ANSWER to the COMMISSION- 
ERS PAPER of the firft of November, concern- 
ing Ireland. 

Newport j Nov. I, 1648.. 
CHARLES R. 

jp*O R a final Anfwer to yru^ as to your Paper of 
-* the firft of. this Month^ concerning Ireland, bis 
Majefty faith) "That his Majefty having heard nothing 
in Anjwer to his own rropofetions, and having 
an fa er eel all the Proportions of his two Houfes^ hath 
very little Encouragement to treat upon a neiu Pro- 
pofition, l)elng no Part of the Subjefl Matter of this 
Treaty : But having givsn you an Anfwer to we fcid 
Paper concerning Ireland, and beard your Debate 
thereupon, he finds /? fit to adhere to his former 
Anfwer : For if .this "Treaty /hall conclude happily , the 
Defer es of his two Houfes will be f idly fat'nfied b) his > 
Cwcejftons already made concerning that Kingdom. 

Nov. 4. Some more Votes and Refolutions, con- 
cerning the Treaty j were this Day agreed to by 
both Houfes, viz. 

4 i. That the King's Anfwer to the Defire of Vrt( . s t j. ew- 
both floufes, for his declaring againft the Pro-uport. 
ccedings of the Lord Or'mond in Ireland* is not fn- 
tisfadory ; and the Commiflioners are ii rcby au- 
thorized and required to acquaint the Kir.,1 he,re- 
with, and to prefs him to a tull Conlent: t. to. 

VOL. X VIII. 1 2. 'That 



1 36 5T^ Parliamentary HISTORY 

An 'Cf Os r. !. 2. ' That Dr. VJJier, Dr. Brownrjgg (i), Dn 
Pridtaux, Dr. Warner, Dr. F*rw, and Dr. Afor/^, 
have the Leave of both Houfes to-go to the 
King, and have the Speaker's PafTes to that Piir- 
pofe. 

3. f That the Commiflioners now in the IJle of 
flight, have Power to agree among themfelves 
which of them fhall come away and attend the 
Houfes ; leaving three there, whereof one Lord and 
two Commoners. 

4. c That an Inftru&ion be prepared, and fent 
to the Commiflioners in the IJle of Wight, to au- 
thorize them to prefent the Shorter Catechifm to his 
Majefty for his Approbation. 

Ordered, < That thefe Votes be fent to the Com- 
miflioners, inclofed in the following Letter :' 

My Lords and Gentlemen, 
1 \\7 E are commanded, by the Lords and Com- 

* W mons aflembled in Parliament, to tranf- 

* mit unto you thefe Votes inclofed ; and it is their 

* Pleafure, and you are hereby authorized, to ac- 
' quaint his Majefty with them, and defire his Ma- 
' jefty's Confent accordingly. This is all that is 
' at prefent we have in Command, who fubfcribe 

* ourselves 

Your affeRionate Friends 

And humble Servants, 

MANCHESTER, 

Speaker of the Hbufe of Peers pro 
Tempore. 

WILL. LENTHALL, 

Speaker of the Commons Houfe 
in Parliament. 

* The 

ft) The Order for allowing Dr. Brcnvnrigg, Bi/hop of Exeter, to 
go jo the King was afterwards revoked, as being a Perfon under 
Reflraint. Dr. U/her was then Archbifhop of Armagh, Dr. Pri- 
deaux, Bifliop of Worcefter, and Dr. Warner, of Rocbcjler j but the 
Parliarrfent did not allow thew to be ftyled to. 



^ 



ENGLAND. 



The fame Day the following Letter from the An. 24 Car. I, 
Lord-Admiral was received and read. t ' ^' t 

November, 

to the COMMITTEE of LORDS and COMMONS at 
Derby-houfe. 

Aboard the St. George at Helvoetfluys, 
Nov. ii, 1648. 

My Lords and Gentlemen^ 

T> Y my laft Letter of the firft of November, Advices from the 
JD fent by the Dutch Poft, I gave your Lord- J"^ c f ^'. 

' 



* (hips an Account of Prince Rupert's undertaking ing the Fleet, 

* the Engagement of the revolted Fleet. His great 
4 Confidence to get out to Sea was quickly check'd 
' by the Ships Want of a full Complement of Men 
' and Provifions, and by many of the Mariners de- 

* dining to go under his Command ; which Ob- 

* jcrction was endeavoured to be falved by engaging 

* the Duke of York to undertake it ; but God hath 
' now broken their Confidence, and I think their 
Defign. 

' On Sabbath Day laft, about Eleven at Night, 

* the Conjlant Warwick came in and fubmitted to 

* the Fleet under my Command, upon Indemnity 
' to them that effected it : This being looked upon 

* as a very great Preparative to the further diftrail- 

* ing and difcouraging of the Revolters, we did, 
' on Monday laft, refolve to weigh and go up near 

* to HclvoeiJIuys, which on Wednesday we put in 
' Execution ; and the fame Night I anchored by 
' the Admiral of Holland^ fome other of the Fleet 

* thereabouts, and fome took their Births by the 

* Revolters. That Night the Hind Frigate came 
' in and fubmitted. 

* On Thurfday we weighed again, and, about 
' the Time that I weighed, the Conftant Rcfor- 

* mat ion was under Sail, having flipt her Cable for 

* Hafte. I anchored before the Sluice as i; began 

* to be dark, and the reft of the Fleet birth* J them- 
4 felves as conveniently as they could. At the 

* Time of our anchoring, we found the Rforma- 

J 3 * tion 



1 3 2 'The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. < tlon haling into the Sluice, the Roebuck being irt 

t __ l6 ^' _ , e before. Next Morning we found haled into the 

November. ' Sluice the Reformation, Swallow, Roebuck, Romney 

Frigate, and Blackmore Lady, and laft Night the 

' Antelope. 

' Yefterday we forced to Obedience the Love : 
' The fame Day I appointed feveral Veffels to do 
' their bsft Endeavours for reducing the Satisfac- 
' tion ; and laft Night the Commander offered to 
' render her, upon granting to fuch as fliould be 

* willing, Liberty to go on Shoar with their Bag 
' and Baggage ; which I gave Way to, and this 
' Morning the Men were carried on Shoar in Boats 

* of the Fleet, and PofTeffion delivered. 

' I fhall attend here a few Days longer to pur- 
c fne fome Opportunities which I hope may not be 

* without Fruit, and then I fhall return with the 
' Fleet, God willing, into England; in the mean 
4 Time I have reprefented our Condition to the 
' Parliament's Agents at the Hague, and leave it 
' to your Lordftiips Wifdoms to confider what Ad- 

* drefles will be necefiary to my Lords the States, 

* I fearing the great Ships will receive no fin all 
' Damage if they He, long aground j and fo I take 

* Leave, refting 

Your Lordjhips 

Affectionate and humble Servant, 

WARWICK. 



Debate in the Nov. 4. Great Part of this Day was fpent, by 

Houfe of Com- the Commons, in a Debate concerning the State 

Sg^VoT"" 1 ' and Cricim on of the Guards then attending upon 

Guard for the the Parliament. Notice being taken that they 

Parliament j were moftly hired Men, and not Citizens, and 

that the Houfes could not repofe their Security in 

fuch a Kind of Defence, fome propofed that every 

Member fhould go arm'd ; others moved that a 

Regiment of Horfe and another of Foot might be 

fent for to attend them. Againft this it was ar- 

gued, 



^ENGLAND. 133 

gued, That bringing Part of the Army thither An. 24- Car. I. 
would give Occafion of Diftafte and Jealoufy to . l6 * 8 ' , 
the City, .who had fupplied them with Guards November. 
out of the Train'd Bands already ; and that if 
the ufual Number was not thought fufllcient, more 
might be added.' Upon this, Mr. Edward djhe 
flood up and faid, ' Mr. Speaker, There is little 
Confidence to be had in thefe City Guards : They 
are fine Fellows to truft to in fuch a Time as this ; 
for I'll undertake twenty refolute Men, well arm'd, 
fhall make them all fly like a Flock of Sheep be- 
fore a MaflifF; befides, to my Knowledge, moft 
of them are hireling, idle People, and many of 
them are afraid even to {hoot off" a Gun ; and 
therefore I conceive we fhall have little Safety till 
we difmifs them, and have Guards from the Ar- 
my, which may be conveniently quartered again 
at Wkiteha<l and the Mews' To this it was re- 
plied, ' That now to quarter Part of the Army in 
the King's Houfe and his Stables, would be inter- 
preted an Affront to the Treaty, and argue that no 
Peace was intended, or that the King fhouid ever 
be allowed to return to W^ejlminjltr,'' Another 
Member urged, ' That it would be interpreted 
likewife as a Defign, either to fright away the more 
moderate Members of the Houfe, and thofe that 
are Well-wimers to Peace - 3 or elfe to over-awe 
them from voting according to their Confcicnces, 
now the Treaty was drawing to an End.' Here- 
upon it was moved, as a better Way, That a Com- 
mittee might be appointed to go and confer with 
the Common-Council of London and Committee 
of the Militia, how the Parliament may be better 
fecured, their Commands and Orders put in 
better Execution, aud their Authority better fup- 
ported. And the Queftion being put thereupon, 
it was agreed to, and a Committee accordingly 
appointed to go to the Common-Council that 
Afternoon. 

Nov. 6. The Commons proceeded to name feven 

Delinquents to be exccpted from Pardons when 

I 3 Mr, 




1 34 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. M r> Elackijlon propofed the Marquis of Newcajlle 
* 6 ' as the firft Perfon ; and in Support of this Nomi- 
nation ajledg'-d, * That his Lordfhip was the firft 
Fire-brand in the North, and had done the Parlia- 
ment more Mifchief there, than all the' Northern 
^^q^^^b^^Si and that feeing bis Lordmip 
nts to be e*. had a good Eftate, it would be beft to except fuch 
ecUrom Delinquents as he was, that the Public might have 
n> the better Bargain by it.' And accordingly the 

Houfe refolved that the Marquis fhould be one. 

The next Perfon propofed was "James Earl of 
Derby. Upon the Nomination of this Nobleman, 
fome Members faying, * It would be unreafonable 
to prefs the King to except him, and that his Ma- 
jefty would never confent to it,'. Mr. Thomas Scot 
faid, * Mr. Speaker, my Lord of Derby , 'tis con- 
. ' ceiv'd by divers Gentlemen here, will not be yield- 
ed to by the King. And what fhould the Reafori 
be why the King will not yield' to except him ? 
Truly, Mr. Speaker, I cannot conceive *any, un- 
lefs it be becaufe my Lord of Derby is his Brother-r 
King, being intituled King of the Ijle of Man ; but 
he wears a Leaden Crown : And therefore fmce we 
cannot do Juftice upon the Golden Crown, truly, I 
conceive, Mr. Speaker, we ought to do Juftice, at 
leaft, upon the Leaden one ; and fmce we can- 
not do Juftice upon the King, I pray you let us 
do Juftice upon a Kingling.' But the other Party 
would by no 'means yield, alledging, That the 
Earl of Derby had no Hand in promoting the Be^ 
ginning of the War, but was a&ed by other Men ; 
that he feemcd not much difaffecled to the Par- 
liament till they had difcountenanced him, by put- 
ting Lord Wharton into the Lieutenancy of Lanca- 
Jhlre^ and Lord Stamford into that of Leicejlerjhire 
.(rt), which were both Honours belonging to his 
Lordfhip: That he had a<5led little himfelf, but left 
his Lady in his Houfe at Latham^ in Lancajhire ; 
and retired into the JJle of Man, where he had 

not 

(a) See the Lift of the Lord Lieutenants of the feveral Counties, 
appointed by the Parliament in 1641, in our Tenth 



of E N G L A N D. r 35 

not offended at all, but flood only upon the De- An - *g Car - 

fenfive : And therefore it would be Injuftice to ex- , 1 * 8 ' 

cept him, unlefs it was admitted to be juft to hang November. 
Men merely for their Eftates,' Then the Queftion 
being put, That the Earl of Derby be one of the 
Seven to be excepted from Pardon, it pafied in the 
Negative, by 77 againft 53. 

Sir Marmaduke Langdale and Lord Digby were 
named next. Againft his Lordfliip it was obje&r 
ed, ' That he had been a great Promoter of the 
firft War, being the Man that.advifed the King 
to defert the Parliament, and retire into the North, 
where he fet up his Standard ; and therefore ought, 
above all others, to be excepted :' And accordingly 
he. was refolved to be the fecond. Againft Sir Mar- 
maduke. Langdale it was alledg'd, c That, next to 
the Marquis of Newcastle, he had done moft Mif- 
chief in the Northern Parts : ' But Alderman Hoyle 
of York faid, < That he had done far more Mif- 
chief than the Marquis ot NewcaJHe, who had a 
Hand only in the firft War ; whereas Sir Marma- 
duke was not only active in the firft, but the Ring- 
leader of all the Englifh in the laft War : Befides, 
the Marquis of Neiycajile and the Lord Digby were 
both out of the Kingdom, but Sir Marmaduke was 
in their Power ; and therefore it was very necef- 
fary he mould become the Subject of Jufticc, fee- 
ing the others could nqt be made Examples.' Upon 
this a Member informed the. Houfe, That it was 
confidently reported that Sir Marmaduke Langdale 
had made his Efcape out of Nottingham Ca/lle. 
Notwithftanciin.g which, it was refolved that he 
fhould be the third excepted Perfon ; the Inde- 
pendents giving their Concurrence, hoping this 
Intelligence might be falfc, and the King's Party, 
as wiftiing it to be true. 

Nov. 7. Sir Richard Greenville was propofed to 
be the fourth Perfon excepted from Pardon : A- 
gainft him it was urged, That he had apoftatized 
from the Parliament, carried away their Money, ' 
and put 60 Men to the Sword, in cold Blood, in 
I 4 the 




The Parliamentary HISTORY 

t he Weft of England (h). The Prefbyterian Party 
appeared very, warmly againft Sir Richard; but the 
Independents, v\ell knowing there were greater 
Stumbling-Blccks than him to lay in his Majefty's 
Way to an Agreement, faid, Though Sir Richard 
Greenville had defcrved an Exception as well as 
any, yet having confined themfelves to fo narrow 
a Number as feven, it fliould be their Care to ex- 
cept only the greateft and moil confiderable Delin- 
quents : That Sir Richard was a Alan of imall 
Eftate, and fo the pitching upon him would prove 
but an ill Bargain to the Public, when more confi- 
derable Perlbns fhould efcape fcot-free : However, 
it was at laft refolved that Sir Richard Greenville 
fliould be one of the Perfons to be excepted from 
Pardon. 

Next the Houfe refolved to add the following 
Provifo to their Vote, of the 20th of October laft, 
touching Delinquents, viz. ' That the Declaration 
for proceeding, as to the taking away cf Life only 
of feven of them, fhould not extend to pardon any 
Perfons for Life or Eftate, who have had any Hand 
in the plotting, defigning, or aflifting the Rebellion 
in Ireland.' To this Vote, thus altered, the Lords 
gave their Concurrence. 

Then the Commons proceeded to name a fifth 
Perfon to be excepted from Pardon ; when David 
Jenki:s> Efq; one of the Judges of Wales, was 
propofed. He was charged with having condemn- 
ed divers Perfons merely for their Affection and 
Service to the Parliament, and had been a bitter 
Inveigher againft, the Proceedings of both Houfes. 
Only one Member fpoke in this Gentleman's 
Behalf, who faid, ' He thought Mr. "Jenkins was 
able to juftify what he had done, by Law, and for 
his own Part he would never confent to condemn 
any Man for defending the Law of the Land.' 
But the Houfe refolved that Judge Jenkins fhqulcl 
be excepted. 

The 

fb] Lord Clarendon gives a very particular Account of this Gentle- 
man's Character and Conduct. Hifrory, Vol. IV. p. 537. 



of E N G L A N D. 137 

The Earl of Glamorgan was propofed next, as An - *4 Car. 
having not only done much Mifchief in England^ t *_* ' _ 
but confederated with the Ir'ijb Rebels ; yet he was November. 
laid afide, as being comprized in that Proportion 
which excepts from Mercy all fuch as had a Hand 
in the Irijh Rebellion. Then the Independent 
Party named Bifhop Wren^ and the other Mr. John 
AJhburnham, but at laft it was voted, by a Majority 
of 83 againft 62, that Sir Francis Doddington fhould 
be the fixth Perfon excepted, 

Then the Marquis of Wincbefter was named, 
but this Motion patted in the Negative, without a 
Divifion. 

Next Mr. Henry Jcrmyn was propofed to be ex- 
cepted, as having been amoft intimate Confident of 
the Queen in all her Projects, and a great Enemy to 
the Parliament : But the other Party replied, That 
thofe already named were all Proteftants, and the 
Houfe might do well to add fome Papifts in Arms, 
therefore they prcpofed Sir John Wintour ; and the 
Queftion being put thereupon, it was refolved by a 
Majority of 68 againft 48, That Mr. 'Jermyn 
fhould not be one of the Perfons excepted from 
Pardon; and then it was carried, without a Divi- 
fion, that Sir y<jbn Wintour be the feventh. 

In the Courfe of this Debate fome Members, 
put of Companion to thefe Delinquents, thus 
doom'd to the Lofs of both Lives and Eftates, ha- 
ving exprefied a Concern, That thereby their Chil- 
dren were undone as well as themfelves ; and it 
was very hard the Children fhould fufter for the 
father's Fault. Mr. Cornelius Holland anfwered, 
* That if the Scriptures were to be the Rule of 
their Actions, they muft do Juftice upon whole 
Families ; and for this Purpofe he inftanced the 
Cafe between Saul and the Giboniies, how that 
feven of his Sons, though a King, were hang'd 
up to fatisfy Juftice for the Sins of their Father.' 
And Sir James Harrington moved, That additional 
Proportions might be drawn up to except a cer- 
tain Number of the new Delinquents alfo from 
Mercy, and their Names to be fcut to the King.' 

* But 



1 2 8 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. But this Bufinefs was put off till the ni'xt Day. 
l6 4*- And accprdingly, 

November. ^^ g^ g. f y amgs fjarrington renewed his Mo-, 
tion, for making additional Proportions, for ex- 
cepting a Number of the new Delinquents out of 
Mercy. To which it was anfwered, ' That the 
Houfe might fend additional Propofitions, fo as 
they were not contrary to thofe already fent; but to 
make new Exceptions for Life would contradict 
their former Refolutions, whereby the Houfe had 
confined themfelves to feven Perfons only.' To 
which it was replied, * Though they had voted 
feven only heretofore, yet being Mafters of their 
own Votes, they might recall or alter them at 
Pleafure, upon Occafion.' This the other Party 
denied, as being contrary to the Honour and Cuf- 
tom of Parliament, to vote and unvote with every 
Wind.' After a long Debate, it was refolved, by 
a Majority of 100 Voices againft 67, That no more 
Perfons Names fhall be presented to the King to be 

excepted from Pardon. It is remarkable that 

this is the third Inftance of a Motion for an ad- 
ditional Number of Delinquents to be excepted 
from Pardon, being over-ruled, 

An<! on a Motion Nov. Q. Mr. Holland moved, That fuch Per- 
for bamfcing the f onSj name d in the firft Branch of the Propofition 
concerning Delinquents, except the feven that are 
excepted from Pardon, as are now beyond Seas, 
fhould not return, but ftand banifhed the King- 
doms of England and Ireland^ the Ifles of Guernfey 
and Jerfey^ and the Town of Berwick ; unlefs it 
be otherwife ordered by both Houfes of Parliament : 
But this Motion was carried in the Negative, by 
52 Voices againft 49. And then it was refolved, 
without a Divifion, * That all Perfons, named 
and comprized in the firft Branch of the Propofi- 
tion concerning Delinquents, be removed from 
his Majefty's Councils, and reftrained from com- 
ing within the Verge of the King's," Queen's, or 
Prince's Courts j and that they ma^ not, with- 
4 out 



^/ENGLAND. 139 

out the Advice and Confent of both Houfes of the An. 24 .Car. I. 

Parliament of England, bear any Office, or have t * 48> t 

any Employment, concerning the State or Com- November, 
raon wealth : And in cafe any of them (hall offend 
therein, to be guiky of High Treafon, and inca- 
pable of any Pardon from his Majefty, and their 
Eftates to be difpofed of as both Houfes of the 
Parliament of England fhall think fit.' This Re- 
folution was fent up to the Lords, who gave their 
Concurrence. 

The fame Day, Nov. 9, a Letter from the Com- 
miffioners in the IJle of IVight, with the following 
Papers inclofed, were read in the Houfe of Lords : 

For the Right Hon. the Earl of MANCHESTER, 
Speaker of the Houfe of PEERS pro Tempore. 

My Lord, Newport, Nov. 6, 1648. 

' T PON Receipt of yours of the 4th Inftant, More Paper* 
'- V/ we have, according to your Directions, ac- from the Com- 

* quaintcd his Majefty with the Votes and Refolu- Jrifl i one '' s , COI >- 

* tions then fent to us, and have agreed amongft EJX??^ 
4 ourfelves concerning fuch of our Number that pofition for the 

' are to attend the Houfes ; and, by them, we fend church 5 

f your Lordfliips our Proceedings upon the Propo- 

' fition concerning the Church, and other Papers, 

' and fliall purfue the Inftruftions we have lately 

' received, and give you an Account therof, from 

6 Time to Time, as there (hall be Occafion ; anJ 

\ fo we reft, &c. 

[Sigftd by all the CommiJ/ioners.] 

The COMMISSIONERS PAPER, defiring to know the 
King's particular Exceptions as to the Church. 

Newport, Nov. 3, 1648. 
are commanded, by the Houfes of Par- 
liament, to defire your Majefty to exprcfs 
' your particular Exceptions to the Ordinances 
mentioned and contained in the Proportion con- 

* cerning the Church, that being reduced to Cer- 




The Parliamentary Hi s T o R v 

tainty, and ftated, they may be returned to the 
Houfes,' r Signal by all the Commifjionen .] 

November; 

His MAJESTY'S AN T SWER. 
CHARLES R. Ncw P ort Nov - 4, 1648. 
7"A T Anfwer to your Paper of the third of No- 
"* vember, delivered in late Icift Nighty wherein 
you defire his Majejiy to express his Exceptions to 
feveral Ordinances mentioned in your Proportion 
concerning the Church ; his Majejly faith-) That 
thoje Ordinances being many and large , and finding 
that after this Day you can receive no more Papers 
without farther InJlruFtions, his Majejly conceives 
Inmfelf fo limited in Time, that he cannot fo fuel-? 
denly give you his particular Exceptions to the faid 
Ordinances. 

The COMMISSIONERS REPLY. 

Newport , Nov. 4, 1648. 
XTTfHereas we, by our Paper of the third Inft. 

* defired your Majefty to exprefs your par- 
' ticular Exceptions to the Ordinances mentioned 

* and contained in the Proportion concerning the 

* Church, unto which your Majefty, by your 

* Anfwer thereunto this 4th Inftant, is pleafed to 
' fay, That thofe Ordinances being many and large, and 

* that after this Day we can receive no more Papers 
' without further Inftruftions ; and therefore conceive 
' y our f elf fo limited in Time, that your Majefty can- 
' not fo fuddenly give your particular Exceptions to the 
' faid Ordinances ; we humbly conceive thofe Or- 
' dinances, having been many Days fince the Be-*- 

* ginning of the Treaty in your Majefty's Hands, 

* and under your Majefty's Consideration, the fame 
' cannot be new unto your Majcfty ; and therefore 

* we again humbly defire your Majefty to exprefs 

* your particular Exceptions to the faid Ordinan- 
' ces, as by our faid Paper of the third Inftant we 

* have formerly defired.' 

[Signed by all the Commiffionen.] 



of ENGLAND. 141 

The KIN G'S ANSWER to the foregoing. An - 24 Car. f. 

1049. 

CHARLES*. Newport, Nov. 4, 1648. ^^ 

I^ R a final Anfwer to you, as to your Paper 
* of this $th Injlant, whereby you do again defire 
his Majefty to exprefs bis particular Exceptions to 
the Ordinances mentioned in the Propofition concern- 
ing the Church^ his Majejly faith. That, by his An- 
wer of the qth of October, he did exprefs the ge- 
neral Reafons why he could not confent to the faid 
fever al Ordinances in the Form they are now penned^ 
and that he heard no more thereof \ until he received 
your Paper late in the Evening lajl Night ; fo that 
though thofe Ordinances have been many Days in his 
Majejlfs Hands, and are not new to him, yet this be- 
ing the lajl Day wherein you, by your InflruSiions, 
can receive any Papers from him, his Majejly can- 
not, in fo Jhort a Time, review the feveral Ordi^ 
nances, andjlate the particular Exceptions thereunto ; 
and therefore he adheres to his former Anfwer 
therein. 

The KING'S PAPER, to know if the COMMIS- 
SIONERS had received any Inductions concern- 
his PROPOSITIONS. 

CHARLES R. Newport, Nov. 4, 1648. 

T7/5 Majr/Iy's Proportions delivered unto you the' And the King'* 
* -* ijth of O&ober, 1648, having been tranf- . un P 
mitted by you to his two Houfes ; and his Majcjiy tlons ' 
having received no Anfwer thereunto, he defircs to 
know whether you have yet received any InJIrucJions 
concerning the fame. 

77)e COMMISSIONERS ANSWER. 

Newport, Nov. 4, 1648. 

c TN Anfwer to your Majcfty's Paper delivered in 
' A to us this 4th of November Inftant, whereby 
' your Majefty defires to know whether we have 
* recei ve d an / Inftructions concerning your Ma- 



1 42 he Parliamentary H r s T 6 R V 

An. z4 Car. I. < jefty'sPropofitions tranfmitted by us to both Houfes 
*648' < of Parliament, we humbly fay, That we have not 
November. ' 7 et ^ ceive< ^ an y Inftru&ions concerning the fame." 
[Sirtfdby all the Commijffioners.] 

The KING'S laft PAPER, in Anfwer to the Bufi- 
nefs of the Church. 

CHARLES R. New P ort; Nov ' * l6 4 8 

77 R a final Anfwer to you, as to your Paper of 
* the firjl of this In/tant, and the Votes therein 
mentioned concerning the Church, his Majejly faith, 
That his Concefftons, intended by his former Anfwer y 
were larger than are exprejjed in that Paper , and 
tnif apprehended in thefe Particulars following, viz. 
He neither did nor doth intend to make any new 
Bijhops during the Term of three Tears, nsr, at thf 
End of three Years; that the Power of Ordination 
Ikould be prattifed in the old Manner as formerly ; for 
that heretofore the Bijbops were at Liberty to call 
zvhat Prejbyters they would to affift in Ordinations, 
but were not bound to their Council or Confent. But 
his Majejly doth now intend, and will c&nfent, that 
Bijhops Jhall not receive any into Holy Orders with- 
out the Confent of a limited Number of Prejbyters, 
to be chofen in fuch Manner as Jhall be agreed on by 
his Majefty and his two Houfes for that Purpofe. 

Neither did his Majejly intend that, after the 
End of three Years, no certain Way JJwdd be fettled 
concerning Ecdefiajlical Discipline and Government ; 
far that his Majejly did propofe, during the three 
Tears, to have a Confutation with the AJJembly of 
Divines, twenty being added of his own Nomination ; 
which if his two Houfes Jhall refolve to entertain, 
It cannot well be doubted but, upon their Debate, 
fuch a Government will be agreed upon by his Ma* 
jefty and his two Houfes, as Jhall be bejl for the 
Peace of the Church, and mojl proper to prevent thofe 
Di/lraftions which his two Houfes apprehend may 
tnfuf. 






of ENGLAND. 143 

As to that Part of the Ptopcfition concerning the An - 2 4 Car - r - 
Book of Common Prayer ; for the Satisfaction of his ^__ ** 68 ' , 
two Ho 'tiff s, his Majejly will not infi/l upon any Pro- November . 
vifion for the Continuance of the fame in his Majejly's 
Chapel for himfelf and his Hou/hold ; neverthelefs his 
Majefty declares that he intends to ufe fame other fet 
Form of Divine Service. 

And as to that Part of the Proportion, That an 
Aft or AtJs be paj/ed for ajlrifler Courfe to prevent 
the faying or hearing of Mafs in the Court or any 
other Part of this Kingdom, or the Kingdom of Ireland j 
his MajeRy will confent thereunto. As to all other 
Particulars in your Paper mentioned, his Majefty 
hairing, in his former Anfwers, confented fo far as 
pojjibly he can, as he Jlands at prefent perjuaded in 
his judgment, doth refer himfelf thereunto. And 
Jince his Majejly, by his ConceJJions, hath brought all 
Differences concerning the Church into fo narrow a 
Compafs, that the chief vifible Olfruilion is that 
wherein really in Confcience he is not fatisfied, he hopes 
his two Honfes will not put farther PreJJures of fo 
.tender a Nature upon him, when it is moft likely that 
Time and Debate will happily reconcile all thofe Dif- 
ferences. 

Newport, Nov. 4, 1648. 

* T TfAving received your Majefty's final Anfvvpr 

* 1 1 to our Paper of the firft of this Inftant, 
' concerning the Church, and likewife to our Pa- 

* pers of the fourth of this Inftant, touching your 

* Majefty's particular Exceptions to the Ordinances 
' concerning the Church, we (hall communicate 

* them to both Houfes of Parliament.' 

[Stgn'dty all the Commijfioners.] 

All the Parliament's Commiffioners were now Moft of the Pr- 
to London, except the Earls of N'orthur?il>er- lnmenCs ^m- 

Middkfcx, the Lord Wenman, Mr. /M 
Mr. Pierpoint, and Mr. Crew, who ftaid in the' 
//If of J fright, in confequence of the Refolution of 
both Houfes of the 4111 of this Month. 

When 




The Parliamentary HISTORY 

I. When thefe Lords and Gentlemen took, their 
Seats, the Speakers of both Houfes repetitively 
November. were ordered to give them Thanks for their great 
Pains and Induftry, and faithful Difcharge of the 
Truft committed to them. Upon this Occafion 
Their Report of they reported, That when they took their Leave 
whatpaffedat o 'f t h e Kins;, on the 4th of this Month, his Ma- 

J eft y faid ^ That he ^P ed the y were now fenfible ' 

that none was more defirous of a good and lafting 
Peace than himfelf j that he had gone very far to 
give his two Houfes Satisfaction ; that he thought, 
though the Time for the Treaty was ended, yet 
the Treaty itfelf was not, for. that he expected 
to hear from his two Houfes about his own Pro- 
pofitions ; and would be ready to make his Con- 
cefllons binding, by giving them the Force of 
Laws.' 

' That his Majefty defired, they would put a 
good Interpretation upon his vehement Expreflions 
in fome of his Debates, there being nothing in his 
Intentions but Kindnefs j and that as they had 
taken Abundance of Freedom, and fhewed great 
Abilities in their Debates, which had taken his 
Majefty oft from fome of his own Opinions ; fo 
he doubted not, had they had Power to recede, 
forne of his Reafons would have prevailed with 
them, as he is confident, had it been with his two 
Houfes, it would have done with them : And there- 
fore befought them to take the fame Freedom with 
his two Heufes, to prefs them with a Compliance 
with him in thofe Things his Confcience was not 
yet fatisfied in, which more Time might do, his 
Opinion not being like the Laws of the Medes and 
Perfians^ unalterable or infallible.' 

* That his Majefty added his very hearty 
Thanks for the Pains they had taken to fatisfy 
him, profeffing that he wanted Eloquence to com- 
mend their Abilities. He defired them candidly 
to reprefent all the Tranfaclions of this Treaty to 
his two Houfes, that they might fee nothing of 
his own Intereft, how near or dear foever, but 

that 



cf ENGLAND. 145 

that wherein his Confcience was unfatished, could An. 24 Car. r. 

hinder, on his Part, a happy Conclufion of this 

Treaty.' November. 

Nov. 10. The Commons refumed the Debate 
touching the Banimment of fuch Perfons, who had 
been in Arms againft the Parliament fmce the firft 
of January , 1647. Some Members propofed that 
the Number of them ftiould be 100; Come 60 ; 
others 40 ; fome 30 j others 20 ; but at laft it was 
agreed to banifh only feven. Then the Houfe pro- 
ceeded to name the Perfons, and agreed upon the 
Earl of Holland, Lord Goring (a], Lord Capel, 
Henry Ha/lings, Efq; (I) and Sir Henry Lingen, 
without a Divifion. Sir John Beys was named, but 
not agreed to ; next Lord Wlllougbby of Parkam 
was propofed, but it parted in the Negative by 49 
Voices againft 33. Then Major- General Laugh- 
arne was agreed to be the Sixth, by a Majority of 
45 againft 35 ; and Sir John Owen was voted to be 
the Seventh, without any Divifion of the Houfe. 

Next it was refolved, that no Perfons who have 
been engaged in, or aiding or affifting to, the late 
War againft the Parliament, either by Sea or 
Land, fince the firft of January laft, (hall be ad- 
mitted to a Competition for Delinquency, but at 
a full Years Value more than other Perfons who 
(hall be in the fame Qualification with them. 
Then the Commons further refolved, that James 
[Duke of Hamilton] Earl of Cambridge, be fined 
the Sum of 1 00,000 /. and kept clofe Prifoner till 
he pay the fame : To the firft of thcfe Refolutions 
the Lords gave their Concurrence, but demurred 
to the other. 

When the Parliament voted an Addition of four- The Parliament 
teen Duys to the forty, firft allotted for the Treaty, JjJJa^JJ h 
they borrowed 4000 /. of the City of London for Treaty. 

VOL. XVIII. K defray- 

"\ after the King left LtrJcr, 

(<0 Cteat-d F.arl of Norwich, I and therefore tliefc Titles 

(b) Created Baron of Leugbttrwgb, J were not allowed by thePar- 

) liamBnt. 



1 46 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 4 Car, I. defraying the neceflary Expences thereof: And this 

l6 4 8 ' j Day an Ordinance parted both Houfes for fecuring 

November. tne Repayment of the Money, out of the fame 

Fund as had been mortgaged for the 1 0,000 /. bor- 

rowed at the Commencement of the Treaty, which 

was that of Delinquents Eftates* 



Nm - **' The Commons, took intd Confidera 1 - 
Anfwer concern- tion the King's Anfwer of the 4th of this Month, 
ing the church. to t h e Exceptions of both Houfes, prefented to 
him by the Commiflioners in the IJle of Wight, to 
his former Anfwers to the Propofition concerning 
the Church ; and the fame being read, Mr. Scot 
took Notice of that Paflage wherein the King pro- 
mi fed to forbear the Ufe of the Common Prayer in 
his own Chapel, but declared he would ufe fome 
ether Form, and not the Directory ; and a'Jded^ 
' That, in his Opinion, all Forms were Antichrif- 
tian/ Other Members allowed of Forms in ge- 
neral* but not any particular one ; amongft thefe 
the moil remarkable was Sir Henry Vane, fenior, 
who urged, That the King might be pfeffed td 
give an Account what Form he intended to ufe, be- 
caufe it might not only be contradictory to the Di- 
rectory, but even mofe Popifh than the Common' 
Prayer itfelf.' Upon the whole the Houfe came to 
the following Refojutions : 

1. That his Majefty's laft Anfwer of the 4th 
Inftant, as to that Part concerning Bifhops, Church 
Government, and Difcipline, is unfatisfadtory. 

2. That his Majefty's- Anfwer to that Part of 
the Propofition concerning the Book of Common 
Prayer, wherein he declares, He will not infift upon 
any Provifion for the Continuance of the fame in his 
Majejly's Chapel, for himfelf and his Houjhold, is fa- 
tisfa&ory. 

3. ' That this Claufe in the King's Anfwer, 
touching the Book of Common Prayer, viz. Ne- 
verthelefs his Majfjly declares, that he intends to ufe 

fome other fet Form of Divine Service^ is not fatif- 
factpryv 

4. That 



of ENGLAND. 147 

4. That his Majefty's Anfwer to that Part of An. 24. Car. I. 
the Propofition, That an Att or Atts be pa/ed for . l6 * 8 - t 
fijlrifler Courfe to prevent the faying or hearing of November. 
Mafs in the Court, or 'any other Part of this King- 
dom, or the Kingdom of Ireland, wherein he declare.3 

fee will confent thereunto, is fatisfaclory/ 

5. < That that Part of his Majefty's laft An- 
fwer to the Propofition and Votes concerning the 
Church, viz. As to all other Particulars in your 
Paper mentioned, his Majejly having, in his former 
Anfwers, confented fo far as pojpbly he can, as he 

Jiands at prefent perfuaded in his Judgment, doth 
refer himfelf thereunto ; and fince his Majejly, by 
his ConceJJions, 'hath brought all Differences concern- 
ing the Church into fo narrow a Compafs, that the 
thief viftble ObftruRion is that wherein really in Con- 
fcience he is not fatisjied; he hopes his two Houfes will 
not put further Preffures of fo tender a Nature upon 
him, when it is moft likely that Time and Debate will 
happily reconcile all thofe Differences, is not fatisfac- 
tory ; and that the Commiflioners be hereby au- 
thorized and required to acquaint his Majefty here- 
with ; and to prefs him to a full Confent to the 
Propofition concerning the Church. 

In the Courfe of the foregoing Debates, feveral 
Infinuations had been thrown out, as if the Earl 
of Warwick was not hearty in the Iritereft of the 
Parliament, in regard of his not having attempted 
to fight the revolted Part of the Fleet commanded 
by the Prince of Wales: And this Sufpicion was 
now become fo general, that his Lordfhip thought 
it neceflary to vindicate himfelf from the Charge, 
by publifhing the following Declaration : 

AboArd the St. George /;/ fJelvoet-Sluys, 
November n, 1648. 

1 l_J Avi "g ^is Day feen a Letter from London, 2v2ET 

* 1~1 dated the third of this Inftant November, tion of himfclf 

* importing, That there is a Pamphlet printed, in- fl " the chlr e e 

* 1 j ^ i~ ; t*i r> t f TIT i of his intending 

* utuled, A Declaration of the Earl <?/ Warwick, to j ointbeplillCB 

K 2 fnewlng of Wales. 




Parliamentary HISTORY 

; Jhewing his Refolution to join with the Prince, if the 

' Treaty take no EffeH, I thought myfelf bound to 

November. ' ta ^ e Notice of it, being fo horrid a Reflection 

* upon my Honour, snd wickedly afperfing me 
' with a fuppofed Refolution, fo repugnant to the 

* Truft which I hold under the Parliament : And 

* therefore I do hereby declare, That as both 

* Houfes of ParUament have been pleafed to in- 
' truft me with the Charge of the Fleet, fo I have 
' endeavoured to improve that Authority commit- 

* ted to me, with a faithful and inviolable Refpect 
' unto my Duty. 

When I firft undertook this great Charge, I 
' was fully fenfible how the Caufe of Truth, the 
' Glory of God, the Settlement of my Country's 
' Peace, and the preventing of the bloody and 

* defperate Defigns of the Enemies thereof, de- 
' pended upon the Management of this Expedition \ 
' and how much I was obliged in Confcience and 
' Honour to omit nothing that might have a Ten- 

* dency to thofe Ends : That Obligation I have, 
4 according to my beft Reafon and Judgment, 

* faithfully difcharged ; and, by the Blefling of 

* Heaven, received this Fruit, notwithftanding the 

* many Obftruclions and Difficulties that inter- 

* vened, that the Honour of the Parliament by Sea, 

* is cleared ; the Fleet committed to my Charge 

* preferved in a Condition of Honour and Safety; 

* the Affections of the Seamen fettled ; the Defign 

* of thofe wicked Revolters, that perfidioufly be- 
trayed ib confiderable a Part of the Kingdom's 

* Navy, broken ; and fuch as affociated with them, 
' either rendered or reduced, other than thofe few 
' that for a while have bafely flickered themfelves 
' within the Sluice at Helvoet, and one that was 

* out of that Harbour when I came into it. 

' As to the pretended Refolution of my joining 
' with the Prince, in cafe the Treaty ihould not 
' take Effect, falfly charg'd upon me by that Pam- 
' phlet ; I do profefs in the Prefence of God, who 

* knows my Heart and Ways, that it never entered 

* into 



of E N G L A N D. 149 

' into my Thoughts: and that my Soul abhors it, An. 24 Car. 

* as inconfiftent with my Duty, prejudicial to the v ] " 

1 Parliament, deftru&ivc to the Kingdom's Peace, November. 
c and unworthy of E freeborn Englijhman j being 

* confident that the Parliament will omit nothing 
' on their Part to make the Iflue of the Treaty, 

* by God's Blefling, fuccefsful and happy : And 

* therefore, as I have hitherto been faithful to the 
' Kingdom, and to the Parliament where I have 

* the Honour to fit as a Peer; fo I do and (hall 

* fcorn to facrifice my Confcience, and thofe pub- 
4 lie and dear Concernments of my Country, 

* wherein I have a Portion, to this mifled Fancy 

* of any Perfon, of what Rank, Quality, or Con- 

* dition foever ; and while I have a Heart and Hand, 
4 I (hall not fail, by God's Afliftance, to have them 
1 on all Occafions lifted up for the Service of the 

* Parliament, and common Intereft of England^ 

* with my utmoft Integrity, and to my higheft 

* Hazard ; and my Actions (hall confute the Lies 
e and Jealoufies as well of that falfe Author, as of 
' any others, who, either from an Ignorance of my 
' Proceeding, or perhaps from a Senfe of their own 
' Guilt, dare take the Freedom in thefe Times, 

* wherein the Tongue and Prefs aflume fo luxuri- 
' ous a Latitude, fo unjuftly to befpatter my Ho- 
' nour and Intentions ; to vindicate the Sincerity 
' whereof I fhall commit myfelf to him that judgeth 
'righteoufi-y. W A R w'l C K. 

Nov. 14. This Day the Hotifc of Lords recei- 
ved a Letter, dated the nth Inltant, from the Earl 
of Northumberland, one of the Commiffioners then 
attending upon the King in the Ijle of TPigbt, fig- 
nifying that he had prefented to his Majefty the 
Reiolutions of both Houfes of thefecond and fourth 
of this Month (a] (which we have already given 
K 3 under 

(a) The Resolutions of th firft of this Month, relating to Delin- 
quents, were not prefented to the King till the twenty-third, on 
account of the Uifpute between the two Houfes concerning the 
fven Perfons who fliould be CXCtpted from Pardon, which vas nul 
fully agreed till the airt. 



150 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I- under their proper Dates) : That his Majefty ha4 
1648^ ^ agreed to the Continuance of the Treaty for four- 
November. teen Days longer ; that finding his Anfwer, of the 
2ift of Oftobcr, concerning the Nomination of 
The King's An- Officers, not to be fatisfa&ory, he had agreed to 
RefobtionsTf conf " ent to the fame in the Manner defired by the 
the Parliament Parliament, fo as that Nomination be limited to 
twenty Years: That his Majefty had alfo con- 
fented to the Refolution relating to the taking 
away the Court of Wards and Liveries : and had 
given the following Anfwer concerning th,e Cate- 
chifm : 



touching the 



Votes of both 



Proofitions, 



CHARLES R. New P ort > Nov I0 > 
f?0 R a final Anfwer concerning the Caiechif?n, pre- 
* fented to bis Majefty on the 8tb Inftant, he calling 
to Mind his Proportion concerning the Confutation to 
be had with the Affembly of Divines^ ivkerein this, as 
lyell as other Things of this Nature, may be confidered 
and farther ejlahlljhed^ giyes his. Approbation t&er.e- 
unto as is defired. 

Nov. 15. The Commons pafled the following 
Refolutions, in Anfwer to the King's Proportions : 

1. That from and immediately after the King 
! M1 have confented unto the Defires of the two 

Houfes upon the Treaty, and ratified the fame by- 
Adi or Ats of Parliament, all his Houfes, Ho- 
nours, Manors, and Lands, with the growing 
Rents and Profits thereof, and all other legal Re- 
venues of the Crown, fhall be reftored unto him, 
liable to the Maintenance of antient Forts, and 
all other public and legal Charges, which they 
were formerly charged withal or liable unto 1 ; with 
an Exception of fuch Caftles and Forts, as are now 1 
garrifoned, and of fuch Places for public Maga- 
zines and Stores as are now made Ufe of, for fo 
long Time as both Houfes fhall think fit to make 
ufe of them for the necefTary Defence of the King- 
dom. 

2. ? That the King fhall have Compenfation for 
thofe legal growing Revenues and Profits of the 

Crown, 



tf ENGLAND. I 5 i 

Crown, which he hath or fhall onfent to part An. 24 ear. i 
withal for the Satisfaction of both Houfes in this . , l6 ^ 4 ' 
Treaty, in fuch Manner and Proportion as by the November. 
King and both Houfes fhall be agreed upon. 

3. That the King fhall be fettled in a Con r 
dition of Honour, Freedom, and Safety, agreeable 
to the Laws of the Land. 

4. ' That an A& of Oblivion and Indemnity be 
pafted, to extend to all Perfons for all Matters, 
with fuch Limitations and Provifions as (hall be 
agreed upon between his Majefty and his two 
Houfes of Parliament ; provided that it be declar- 
ed by Act of Parliament, .that nothing in thefe 
four Propofitions, por any of them thus confented 
unto, is intended or (hall be made life of to abro? 
gate, weaken, or anywife impair any Agreement in 
this Treaty, or any Law, Grant, or Conceflion, 
agreed upon by the King, and the two Houfes of 
Parliament, in purfuance thereof/ 

The above Refolutjons, together with thofe 
pafs'd on the 1 1 th, upon the King's laft Anfwer 
touching the Church, were carried up to the Houfe 
of Lords, who gave their immediate Concurrence 
to them all j and they were ordered to be forthwith 
fent away to the Commiffioners in the Jjlt of 
Wight) to be prefented tq the King, 

The fame Day, Nov. 15, th,<? Lords pafled an Or- An ordinance 
dinance for baniming the Earl of Hofanh the Lord for banishing it- 
Goring and the Lord Capd\ and likewife 'agreed v 
to a Vote of the Commons, for inflicting 'the fame 
Punifhment on Sir Henry Lingen, Henry Ha/tings, 
Efqj Major-General Laugbarn, and Sir John Owen.' 
Becaufe there might be no Obftruction in the Trea- 
ty, the Lords faid that they had parted this Ordi- 
nance for baniming the three Peers ; fmce, being 
Members of their Houfe, it was fit to begin there 
firft, and not by Vote from the Houfe of Com- 
mons. But this Ordinance was rejected by the 

Commons upon the firft Reading, who ordered 
K 4 another 




November. 



Parliamentary HISTORY 

another to be brought into their own Houfe for 
banifhing the three Lords, as well as the four 
Commoners ; for which, afterwards at a Confer- 
ence, they gave this Reafon, That their Vote for 
the Bunifhment of thofe {even was fent to the Lords 
for their Concurrence, only that they might be Part 
of the Anfwer to the Proportion concerning De- 
linquents j and no prefent Judgment upon thofe 
Perfons. Hereupon the Lords withdrew their own 
Ordinance, and gave their Concurrence to that fent 
up by the Commons, the Earl of Mulgrave and the 
Lord Hunfdon entering their Diffent. 



Nov. 16. A Letter from Colonel Hammond^ 
concerning the King's Parole, was read. 

For the Right Hon. //^COMMITTEE at Derby-. 
Houfe. 

Carljbwke, Nov. 9, 1648. 
Jldy Lords and Gentlemen^ 

A Letter from f~> I V E me Leave to acquaint your Lordfhips, 
Col. Hammond, < \jf ^ ^ p before ^ Tjme former ] y limi _ 
relating to tnc - . , . - _ f * 

King's Parole ted f r the 1 reaty ended-, and before it was known 
'here to be renewed, I thought it my Duty (in re- 
' gard of the great Truft the Parliament put upon 
' me, in receiving, on their Behalf, the King's Pa- 
e role ; and becaufe there was not any that could 
' pofitively witnefs to the Circumftances of the En- 
' gagement, except Sir Peter Killigrew) to move 
' the King to confirm his Parole, and acquaint the 

* Cornmiiftoners of Parliament that he had fo paf- 
' fed his Word, as defired rnd ordered by both 
' Houfes, which accordingly he did, as the faid 
' Honourable Commiilioners will better inform 

* your Lordmips ; the next Day, and at the Com- 

* miflioners taking their Leave of the King, I 

* having had Intimation of a Queftion or Doubt, 
' whether Guards (as was pretended argued a Di- 

* ftruft) being kept upon the King, his laid Parole 

* was not thereby made void, I prefied the Kino;, 
' before them, to declare whether he made any 

* fuch 



sot to leave the 
Me of Wight. 



of E N G,L A N D. 153 

* fuch "Queftion j if fo, that he would be pleafed -An. 24 Car. i. 

* to declare it. He feeming fomewhat furprized, l6 * 8 ' M 

* defired Time to confider it ; profeffing not to November. 

* have thought on it before : But I perceiving the 

* Danger of fuch a Referve, preffed him with great- 
' er Earneftnefs to a clear Declaration of himfelf 
' in the Point ; telling him, that otherwife his 
' Parole fignified nothing ; and defired his politive 
' Anfwer, as the Cafe now ftood with him. His 

* Majefty avoided it long. I then told him, That 

* if the Centinels at his Door, (I having kept no 

* other fince the Engagement of his Word) were 
' offenfive to him, I would abfolutely clear him 
' in that Queftion. He feemed to make a Scruple 

* they fliould be taken off, they being only fet to 
' keep People from preffing into his Lodgings, and 
' placed, at a further Diftance, with the Guard 

* that is kept to preferve his Majefty's Perfon from 
4 Violence ; affuring him I only depended on his 

* Word, which the Parliament had pleafed to ac- 
' cept, for his not removing out of the Ifland. I 
' told him it would be then more clear, and that 
' four of five feveral Times : At length, upori my 

* Importunity, not being to be fatisfied with a doubt- 
' ful Anfwer, he concluded himfelf to be obliged by 

* his Parole if the faid Centinels were taken away ; 
' which I then promifed him, before the Commif- 
' fioners, fhould be done j and accordingly it was 
' immediately obferved. 

* My Lords, I thought it my Duty to give your 

* Lordfhips an Account of thefe Paflages, efpeci- 
' ally hearing there is likely to be a Renewal of the 
' King's Parole for fome longer Time; that if your 
' Lordfhips fee Caufe it may be fo put to him, upon 
' Renewal of his faid Parole, as may take off all 
' fuch Refervations, which poflibly may otherwife 

* tend to the Difadvantage of the Parliament. I 

* am, 

Your Lordflrips humble Servant, 

ROBERT HAMMOND. 
Upon 




The Parliamentary HISTORY 

Upon reading this Letter, both Hou(es refolved, 
That the King's Parole, given to the Governor of 
the IJle of Wight, doth bind him to a Refidence in 
that Ifle for twenty Days after the Treaty (hall be 
ended ; notwithftanding any Addition that hath 
been, or fhall be, made by both Houfes for con- 
tinuing the Treaty any longer than the forty Day* 
firft appointed. They alfo agreed to the following 
Anfwer to Col. Hammond's Letter, which was or- 
dered to be fent to him immediately. 

S/R, London, Nov. 16, 164?, 

4 \7 OUR Letter of the Qth Inftant, direfted to 
4 Y the Committee at Derby-Houfe, touching 

* the Klpg's Parole, being communicated to both 
4 Houfes of Parliament, they have commanded us 
' herein to convey unto you their Refolution con- 

* cerning the fame, Which is here inclofed ; and to 
4 fignify to you, that their Pleafure is you fhould 

* propofe ip he King, that his Majefty may de- 

* clare the like j whofe pofitive Anfwer thereunto 
4 you are to' fend to the Houfes, on Monday next 
4 at the fartheft.' : 

4 We are commanded, by both Houfes of Par-, 
4 liament, to return you hearty Thanks for all your 
4 faithful Services to the Parliament and Kingdom 
4 in relation to the great Truft repofed in you ; 
4 which they take fpecial Notice of, and to be ma- 
4 n aged and carried on by you with great Prur- 
4 dence, and with fmgular and conftant V ; igilancy 
for the Public Good. We 'are to allure you of 
4 the Efteem of the Parliament, both for ' you and, 
4 them, and remain 

Tour affeElionate Friends, 

MANCHESTER, 

Speaker of the Houfe of Lords, 

WILL. LENTHALL, 

Speaker of the Commons Houfe 
in parliament. 

Nov. 



*f ENGLAND. 155 

Nov. 17. Both Houfes refolved, That the King's An. 24 c. I, 
laft Anfwer to the Propofition for the Nomination ^_ ^^ 
of public Officers was fatisfaclory. November. 

The fame Day the following Letter, from the 
Committee of Eftates in Scotland, was ordered to 
be printed and pablifhed. 

7i the Right Hon. the LORDS and COMMONS af- 
fembled in the Parliament 0/* England. 

Edinburgh, Nov. 7, 1648. 
Right Honourable, 

* \ S we are very fenfible of the Benefit and A Letter from 
' l\ Advantage afforded to this Kingdom, againft^^^ 

* the Enemies of the Peace and Happinefs of both Scotland, com-. 
? Nations, by the coming hither of your Forces finding the 

* under'tl>e Command of Lieutenant-General Cram- 
1 well and Major General Lambert, fo we hold it 

* tting^ when, the Condition of our Affairs and 

* Pofture of our Forces have now permitted their 

* Return., to render them this deferved Teftimony^; 
f and to acknowledge that the Deportment of the 
' General Officers, Under Officers, and Soldiers, 
' in their coming into this Kingdom, during their 
' Abode amohgft us, and their Return to England, 

* hath been fo fair and civil, and with fo much 
' Tenderriefs to avoid all Caufe of Offence, arid to 
' preferve a right Underftand ing between the King- 
' doms, that we truft, by their Carriage, the Ma- 
' lignant and Difaffedled (hall be convinced and dif- 
' appointed, and the Amity of both Kingdoms 

* ftrengthened and confirmed ; which we {hall like- 
' wife, on our Part, inviolably ftudy to prcferve, 
' and to witnefs that we are 

Tour very affetllonate Friends 

and bumble Servants, 

6ignd in the Name, and by 
Command, of the Com~ 
mitteejf EJlata, by LOUDQN, Cane. 9 



156 *The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 14 Car. I. Nov. 18, The Commons refolved that the 

* 6 4 8< Treaty be farther continued till Saturday the i5th 

^November. Inftant, inclufive, to which the Lords gave their 

Concurrence ; and a Letter was ordered to be fent 

to their Commiffioners accordingly. 

Nov. 20, The following Papers, from the Com- 
mifiioners in the JJle of Wight, were read in both 
Houfes. 

The COMMISSIONERS PAPER defiring his MajeJIy'i 
fuller Anfwer about the Marquis of Ormond. 

Newport, Nov. n, 1648. 

Paperi between "IT 7 E are commanded, by both Houfes of Par- 
the King and the e yV liament, to acquaint your Majefty, That 
Commiffioners, * > T ur Anfwer to their Defire, expreffed in a Paper 
touching the * of the firft of November, Inftant, for your de- 
i claring againft the Proceeding of the Lord of 

* Ormond in Ireland, is not fatisfa&ory ; and there- 
' fore we do again humbly defire your Majefty '% 

* full Confent thereunto.' 

[Signed by the Commijftoners.'} 

The KING'S ANSWER. 
CHARLES R. Newport, Nov. 16, 1648. 

Tj*O R an Anfwer to you, as to your Paper of the 
** i\th of November, concerning Ireland, his Ma- 
jejiy faith, That he hath, by his former Anfwer con- 
cerning the Kingdom of Ireland, (which his two 
Houfes have voted to be fatisfattory) declared and 
made void all Treaties and Conclufions of Peace, or 
any Articles thereupon, with the Rebels, without the 
Confent of both Houfes of Parliament ; and to fettle 
in them the Power of the Militia, and the Profe- 
cution of the War there; whereby, upon Conclusion 
of this Treaty with Peace, the Deftres of his two 
Houfes in that Particular will be fully obtained, 
and his Majejly will then command the Marquis of 
Ormond to deftft from any Treaty or Proceedings : 
And in cafe he jhatt refuse, (which he 'a fares him- 



of E N G L A N D. 157 

felf he will not) his Majcjty will make fucb public An - *4 Car. J. 

Declaration again/I his Power and Proceedings as is v ___ _, 

now defired : But, until fucb a Conclujion^ his Ma- November. 
jff.y defires he may not be farther prejjed in that Par~ 
ticular. 

The COMMISSIONERS REPLY. 

Newport , Nov. 16, 1648. 
4 f"TAving received your Majefty's Anfwerof the 

* I. J. 1 6th of this Inftant November ^ to our Pa- 

* per of the i rth ; wherein your Majefty inferreth, 
' That upon the Conclufion of the Treaty with Peace, 
' the Deftre of your two Pioufes in this Particular 

* will be fully obtained : We humbly conceive the 
' Houfes deiire your Majefty's public Declaration 

* againft any Power in the Lord of Ormond to treat 
4 and conclude a Peace with the Rebels in Ireland* 

* and againft his Proceedings, for the prefent dif- 
' avowing and difcountenancing thereof ; and that 
' your Majefty's Anfwer relates only to the future, 
' and will be interpreted to be, in the mean time, 

* a countenancing and approving of thofe Proceed- 
' ings ; which we humbly defire your Majefty to 
4 take into your ferious Confideration, with fuch 
' other Reafons as we have offered in Debate ; and 
' do humbly defire your Majefty to give your full 
' Confent to our Defires, expreffed in our Paper 

* of the nth Inftant.' 

[Sign'a 1 by the CommiJJiwers.] 

His MAJESTY'S FINAL ANSWER concerning the 
Marquis of Ormond. 

CHARLES R. Newport, Nov. 17, 1648. 

T^O R a final Anfwer to you, at to your Paper of 
*~ the \\th Inftant) concerning Ireland, his Ma- 
jefty jaith, That he doth acknowledge that, hf your 
Paper of the ibtb Injlant^ the Difference betwixt 
the Defire of his two Houfes and his Majcjty' s An- 

fwer, 



158 W* Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 16 Car. I. fiber, concerning .- the Proceedings of the Marquis of 1 

^48. ^ Ormond, is .truly Jlated and obferved ; for that the 

November. two Houfo do defa.'e his Majefty to make a prefent 
Declaration . againji the. Power, and Proceedings of 
the Marquis, and his Majefly doth confent to make 
the fame at the Conclufton of this Treaty in Peace ; 
which he believes is very treasonable on his P&rt to in" 
Jijl on, fmce the making of fuch Declaration at the 
End bf this Treaty 1 joins it with his own Freedom 
and Security ; and the publijhing the fame, prefently, 
feparates it, .from that Confederation. But his Ma- 
jlfly conceives it. ,is not rightly inferred, nor that his 
dnfw'ir can reasonably be interpreted t& be any Coun- 
tenance or Approbation of thofe Proceedings, fmce his 
Majejly has confent ed to the Matter, defired, and dif- 
fers only in the Circumflance of Time,., which he hopes 
his two Houfes will not make very flow* The other 
farts of your Debate his MajeJIy hath well conjidered 
of$ as he hopes you have done of his Replies there* 
unto ; and therefore he adheres to his former Anfwcr 
to this, Biijinefs, and dejires hii two Houfes to con- 
fider the Largenefi. of his Concejjions in this Treaty ; 
and, upon that Foundation^ to proceed to a fpeedj 
Settlement of ft blejjed Peace in England, which hi $ 
Majejly conceives the mojl probable Means to reduce 
Ireland. 

His Majefty't ^^ reading thef? Papers from the Commiflion- 

Anfwers therem _ & r i i >-T^, , tr- > A 

voted unfatif- ers, the Commons reiolved, 1 hat the King s An- 
fwers to the Propofition for his declaring againft the 
Proceedings of the Lord Ormond in Ireland, is not 
fatisfatory ; and this Refolution was ordered to be 
fent to the Lordtf for their Concurrence. 

The foregoing Vote was no fooner pafled, than 
the Houfe of Commons was alarmed with a large 
Rcmonftrance from the Army, demanding Juftice 
upon the King as a capital Delinquent, by being 
the Occafion of all the Blood (hed during the War; 
The Entry of this aftoniihingly bold Attempt 
(whi'e a Treaty was going on between the King 
4. and 



^ENGLAND. 159 

and Parliament in the Ijle of JVight} ftands thus An. 24 Car. I. 
recorded in their Journals ! ^__ , 

* The Houfe being informed that fome Officers Novmt>er. 
of the Army, from the General, were at the Door 
with a Remoftrance, they were called in ; and Col., 
Ewer informed them, That the Lord General, and 
General Council of the Officers of the Army, had 
commanded him, and thofe Gentlemen with him, 
to prefent this Remonftrance to that Honourable 
Houfe; arid defired them to take it into fpeed^ 
and ferious Confideration. The faid Remonftrance 
was directed the Right Honourable the Commons 
cf England ajjembled in Parliament, intituled, tfhe 
humble Remon/lrance of his Excellency the Lord-Ge- 
neral Fairfax, and his General Council of Officers, 
held at St. Alban's, Thurfday the i6th of Novem- 
ber, 1648; and was figned, by the Appointment 
of his Excellency the Lord General, and his Ge- 
neral Council of Officers, by John Rujhworth^ Se- 
cretary.' 

The Contemporary Writers in general agree, 
tflat Lord Fairfax was, in himfelf, well difpofed to 
Peace, and that he had no perfonal Difaffection to 
his Majefty : A Circumftance confirm'd by his re- 
fufing to act, foon after^ as a Commiffioner for 
the Trial of the King, though he was the firft 
Perfon named in the Ordinance for that Purpofe. 
It may therefore very juftly be enquired what could 
induce his Lordfhip to appear at the Head of this 
Remonftrance ? In order to clear up this Point, it 
is to be obferved^ That Cromwell, in his trium- 
phant March out of Scotland, had endeavoured to 
engage the Gentry in the North of England to 
oppofe the Treaty's going forward j and feveral 
Petitions were prefented to the Commons for that 
End, of which the Houfe took no Notice. This 
Project failing, he foimed a Scheme for the feverat 
Regiments to petition the Lord Fairfax, one after 
another, demanding Juftice upon the King ; which 
was begun by Ireton, his Son -in- Law's Regiment, 
and then followed by Jngoldftys, Fkeiwood's, Wha* 
tys> BarkfttajTs, Overtoil's, and others. The 

Cohfe* 



1*48 
">/ 

November. 



The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. Confequence of this was the calling a General 
Council of Officers, and agreeing upon the Re- 
monftrance now before us ; of which Ireton, who 
had originally been brought up to the Law, was 
the principal Penman. Whether, therefore, the 
General's giving way to the Prefentment of it was 
owing to his own Inclinations, to his being over- 
reached by Cromwell's Diffimulation, or to an Ap- 
prehenfion of the Refentment of the whole Army 
upon his Non-compliance, we pretend not to de- 
termine ; yet certain it is, that he wrote the fol- 
lowing Letter to the Speaker, to inforce this Re- 
monftrance, which is annexed to the printed Copy 
of it. 

For the Honourable WILLIAM LENTHALL, Efq\ 
Speaker of the Honourable Houfe of COMMONS. 

Mr. Speaker, St> Alban's,Nov. 16, 1648. 

< *T*HE General Council of Officers, at their late 

< * Meeting here, have unanimoufly agreed upon 
a Remonftrance to be preferited to you, which is 

< herewith fent by the Hands of Colonel Ewer, 
and oth^r Officers : And in regard it concerns 
Matters of higheft and prefent Importance to 
yourfelf, to us, and the whole Kingdom, I do, 
at the Defire of the Officers, and in behalf of 
them and myfelf, moft humbly and earneftly in- 
treat that it may have a prefent Reading, and the 

c Things propounded therein may be timely con- 
* fidered ; and that no failing in Circumftances or 
*. Expreifions may prejudice either the Reafon or 

< Juftice of what is tendered, or their Intentions 

< of whofe good Affections and Conftancy therein 

< you have had fo long Experience. I remain 

Tour moft humble Servant, 

FAIRFAX. 

This Remonftrance was not offered to the Houfe 
of Lords, nor is there any thing more of it to be 
found in any of the Contemporaries, than a fhort 
Abftraft of about a /ingle Page : We fhall there- 
fore 



of E N G L A N D. 161 

fork give the whole at large from the Original Edi- An. 24 cunl. 
tion, prefuming that the Curicfity of the Subject l6 4 8 - 
will apologize for the exceflive Length of it (b). November 



St. Albari'S) Nov. 1 6, 1648. 

( f~\ U R tender Regard to the Privileges and A Remonftrance 
V_x Freedom of Parliament, on which our P refented to tj e 
| Hopes of common Freedom and Right do fo m on^rrom ITrd 
^ much depend, and our late Experience what Of- Fairfax and the 
t fence many, even hoheft Men, feern to have ta- 53^"^ 
c ken, arid what Advantage evil Men have made, mandingjuftice" 
c of our leaft interpofirig in any Thing of civil Con- upon the King, 
t fideration to the Parliament, hath made us for a ic * 
t long Time hitherto, as it (hould always make us 
t even to the utmoft Extremity, to attend in Si- 
t lence the Counfels and Determinations of Parlia- 
t ment concerning all Matters of that Nature 
t whatfoever ; but finding you to have been, of late, 
upon thofe Tranfa&ions of higheft Moment, 
whereupon the Life or Death of all our civil In- 
tereft does depend ; arid that the public Affairs in 
' your Hands (not without the Influence of forcible 

* Impulfions from your Enemies, and fuch as have 

* been ftirred up by them) are brought to the ut- 
' moft Crifis of Danger, which calls upon every 
' Man to contribute what Help .he can : and fee- 
' ing no effectual Help from el fe where to appear, 

* we cannot be (beclaufc, iri Confcierlce and Duty 

* to God and Men, we hold Curfelves obliged in 
4 fuch Cafe not to be) altogether filent, orwant- 

* ino; in ought we can honeftly fay, or do, to hold 

* of? impending Ruin from an honeil People, and a 

* good Caufe. 

4 We are not ignorant that that Rule of Sa!u^ 

* Poputi fupretnd Lex is of all others moft apt to 

* be abufed or mifapplied, and yet none mere furely 
" true. It is too ordinary, efpecially of late Times, 

* for Men who, either from Intentions of Evil, or 

VOL. XVIII. L * iriordi- 

fi>), LonJcn, prinrfd for John PgrtriJge aiivl Gccrge Jf-'nttirricr^ 
'n Black Tryars, at the Gat? going into Carter *l*r.t, and at the 
Blue Jpctcr in Cbtrntill, 1648. 



1 6 2 *The. Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. I. inordinate Temper of Spirit, would break thofe 

t l6 * 8 ' M < Bonds of Law and Magiftracy which they find 

V J^^ )ber> c to reftrain them, to frame Pretences of public 

' Danger, and Extremity thereof; and from thence 

* immediately to aflume a Liberty to break, or elfe 
' neglecT: and fly above, the due Bounds of Order 
' and Government, and ftir up others to the fame ; 

* pleading Privilege from that vaft large Rule of 
' Salus Populiy &c, from fuch Mif-applications, 

* whereof great Difturbances do oft arife and Con- 
' fufion is endangered ; and yet we know the fame 

* may be juftly pretended and followed, and that 

* (where it is from honeft public Intentions, and 

* upon clear Grounds) with very happy Effects : 

* We have feen, in this our Age feveral Inftances jn 

* both Kinds, and the Hand of God bearing Te- 
' ftimony and giving Judgment for fome, and yet 

* againft others, where the Pretenfions have been 
' the fame, or fo like as it was hard for human 

* Judgment to diftinguifti. And indeed fince the 

* Right or Wrong of fuch Proceedings depends 

* chiefly upon the good or ill, public or felfifh, 

* fmcere or corrupt, Intentions of the Parties pre- 

* tending, (which human Judgment cannot or- 

* dinarily reach into) and partly upon the Juftnefs 

* or Caufelefnefs, Neceffity or Lightnefs, of the 
4 Occafion taken from thofe againft whom the 

v ' Pretence is ; which again depends partly upon 

* their Carriages, and partly upon their Intentions, 
' the latter whereof is not clearly or properly un- 

* der Man's Judgment ; and the former, without a 
4 full Knowledge of Particulars, not eafy for Man 

* to give a certain Judgment of ; therefore, as the 
' engaging upon fuch Pretences and Principles does 

* always imply, and is for moft Part exprefly ac- 
' companicd with, Appeals to God for Judgment, fo 

* it is the proper Work of God to bear true Witnek 
V and give righteous Judgment in fuch Cafes ; and 

* as he is always engaged to do it fooner or later, 
4 clearer or darker ; fo, in this Age and Part of the 
c World, he hath feem'dboth to make hafte to Judg- 

* ment in fuch Cafes, to give it quickly and fpeedily, 

< and 



of E N G L AND. 163 

and alfo to make bare his Arm therein^ That Men An. 24 Car. I. 

* may fee it ; and hath appeared as a fcvere A- l6 4 8 ' 

" venger againft fuch Pretenders, where it hath been Novemb r J 
1 in talfhood, and with evil or corrupt Intentions ; 
4 fo as alfo a Difcountenance, thereof, even where it 
k hath been with good Intentions) if not neceflary 

* in the Grounds, or from impatient Temper of 
4 Spirit ; and yet in other Cafes, (where, as the 
1 Ends have been public and the Intentions upright, 

* fo the Grounds weighty, the Cafe neceflary in 

* relation to thofe Ends, and the Proceeding fober, 

* temperatej and but proportionable to the Ends, 
k Grounds and Neceffity) a juft Aflertor and Pa- 

* tron of the Right, and Vindicator of the hidden 

* Truth and Simplicity, of the Pretenders, by a 

* glorious Prefence with them, and Succefs to them 

* in fuch Proceedings. 

* Neither wants there Ground for Men to make 

* fome Judgment therein. For certainly he that 

* engageth upon fuch Pretences really for public 

* Ends, and but upon public Neceffity or Extre- 

* mity, arfd wi:h a fober Spirit, (all which muft 

* concur to their full Juftification therein) will 

* both try firft all honeft Ways poflible, with Safe- 

* tyi in thofe Ends, whereby he may p.ccomplifh 

* them and avoid the Danger ; if poflible, with 

* due Regard to, and by Concurrence or with Pre- 
4 fervation of, the Magiftracy and Government 
*- under which God hath fet him, before he will 

* fly to Ways of Extremity : neither will he, when 

* engaged therein, proceed further or longer in 
' that Way againft or without the Magiftracy, 

* than that firtt Neceffity, or fome other Emer- 

* gent upon the Proceedings, does jnftly lead, and 

* the Security of the Ends require ; not driving 
4 that Pretence of Neceffity further to ferve or ad - 

* vantage himfelf, or perpetuate thofe Ways of 
4 Extremity ; but when the Neceffity or Danger 

* is over, and the public Ends fecured, will return 
4 to Magiftracy ?nl Order again j and mean while 
4 fo adl in all, as carefully to avoid both Injury to 

* the Innocent and Offence to the Weak ; and as 

L 2 fubjeiting 




Parliamentary HISTORY 

I. * fubjecling or expe&ing, and ready to fubjecft 
< all to an indifFerent and equal judgment, even of 
' Men, if and when it can be found, and really en- 

* deavouring to find it. For our Parts, both pru- 

* dential Confiderations, and the Experience we 

* have of the Danger there is in the leaft breaking 

* or letting loofe or entangling the Reins of Order 

* and Government, upon fuch Pretences, makes 

* us moft tender of it, as that which is never other- 

* wife to be ufed or admitted than as a defperate 

* Cure in a defperate Cafe, and at the utmoft Peril, 
' as well of them that ufe it, as of thofe for whom : 

* And the Experiences we have feen of God's 

* righteous Judgment in fuch Cafes, as it makes 
6 us not apt, without Trembling and Fear, to think 
' of fuch Proceedings, fo much the more ftricl to 

* obferve all the aforefaid Cautions concerning 

* them ; and yet* where juft Occafion and a real 
' public Neceffity calls thereunto, not to fear fuch 
' Appeals to God for any outward Difficulties or 

* Dangers appearing to ourfelves therein j but, 
' both from divine and human Confiderations, as 
' we do and ever (hall avoid the Occafions by 
' all Means poflible, even to the utmoft Extremity, 

* and do pray and hope we may never come to it j 

* fo, if ever fuch Extremity do happen to us, we 

* hope, through the Grace of Godj we (hall b 

* careful and enabled, both in the engageing and 

* proceeding therein, fo to al as before the Lord, 

* and to approve ourfelves both to God and good 

* Men, and as fubmitting to the Judgment of both : 

* 'And therefore, though we are full of fad Appre- 
' henfions of prefent Dangers to the public In- 

* tereft, and the Extremity even at Hand ; yet we 
1 (hall firft, in all Humblenefs and Soberncfs of 
' Mind, and with all Clearnefs, as God {hall en- 
f able us, remonftrate to you our Apprehenfions 

* both of the Dangers at Hand and of the Reme- 
' dies, with our Grounds in both. 

' Firft, therefore, we muft mind you of your 
' Votes, once paft, concerning no more AddrefTes to 
4 the King, ($V. and our Engagement to adhere to 



cf ENGLAND. 165 

4 you therein : Concerning which we fhall not in- An. 24 Car. i. 
' vite you to look back to any Grounds thereof, t I ** 8 ' , 
' further than to what yourfelves declared and ' November. 

* publifhed thereupon ; and what we, in that our 
4 Engagement, did fummarily lay down as our Sa- 
4 tisfaion therein ; we fhall only wilh it may be 
' remembered how free vou were therein, and 
' what State you and the Kingdom were in then, 

* and how it fared with you thereupon, untill you 
' began to recede j and how upon and fmce your 
' receding. 

* For the firft ; whatever evil Men may flander- 
4 oufly fuggeft in relation to other Matters, yet in 

* this furely pone can fay you were acted beyond 

* your own free Judgments ; we are fure, not by 
4 any Impulfion from the Army ; fmce nothing 

* that ever paft from us to you before did look 

* with any Afpe& that Way j but rather to the 

* contrary (we may fpe.ak it with Sorrow and 

* Shame, in, relation to that Unbelief or Diftruft 

* in Go4 and thofe carnal Fears of public Diftur- 

* bance from which we had before been aled fo 
1 much the other Way) ; fo that, in that Parti- 
4 cular, the juft Refolutions of this Houfq did 

* not only lead us, but help to reclaim us, from 
' Thoughts tqo much wandering the contrary 

* Way. 

4 For the latter ; you may remember, that when 
c you took thofe Refolutions, Difcontent, even to 
c Diftra&ion, did abound all the Kingdom over, 

* in the People, for the Burden of numerous and un- 
4 fettled Forces, and the Oppreflion of free Quarter 

* by them , and, in the Soldiers, for Want of Pay 
4 and Satisfaction or Security in Point of Arrear^ 

* and Indemnity their Difcontents increafmg with 

* their Arrears : AnJ indeed the Soldiery, (in re- 
< gard thereof, and of fome harfh. Provocations to 

* them, and your former Uncertainty in any Way 
*, of Settlement) fomething loofe towards your- 

* felves and their proper Government, and difpo- 

* fed too much to Difturbances amongft themfclves : 
- \ But upon thofe Refolntions of yours againft any 

L 3 * further 



Parliamentary HISTORY 

n. * 4 Car. I. further Addrefles to the King, &c. (which all 

l6 * g - t Men underftood to imply fome further Intenr 

November. ' tiotis of Proceeding in Jnftice againft him, and 

' fettling the Kingdom without him) immediately 

* the Unfettlednefs of Men's Minds and Jealoufies 
' of feveral Parties (concerning one's Compliance 

* with and feeking Advantage from the King's 
' Party againft the other) were greatly allayed, 

* and (together with his Opportunities and Ad- 
' vantages to cajole, or infmuate with, one or other) 

* did feem to be taken away ; and it pleafed God 
4 inftantly to lead you into fuch other CoUnfels 
' and Ways, whereby the Burden and Grievances 
' of free Quarter were immediately taken off, 

* fupernumerary Forces di{banded the reft put 

* into an eftabliftied Way of Pay, the Arrears in 
' fome Meafure fecured, and further Growth there- 
' of prevented ; the Diftempers amongft the Sol- 

* diery quieted, and they refettled in good Order 
' and Difcipline ; and their Hearts, with all honeft 
' ?.nd fober Men ? firmly knit unto you ; and the 
' whole Affairs of the Kingdom in an hopeful Po- 
' fture for -a Settlement. 

' But when the Houfe being called, as it were, 

* on Purpofe for a Settlement, inftead thereof, up- 
' on what Jealoufies of fome amongft yourft;lves % 
' what private Animofities, Envyings, and vin- 

* di(Stive Defires of others, giving up themfelves, 

* with a total Neglect of the common and public 
Intereft; to mind particular Interefts and Parties ; 

* and to feek and take Advantages againft their 
' Oppofites even from hoped, if not formed, Com- 

* pliances of common Enemies, and A ppi:;: ranees 

* trom foreign Parts on their Behalf, whereby t<^ 

* work out Revenge againft thofe they immediately 
' maligned ; or from what crafty Infmuations of 
1 corrupt Members, and a! way falfe to the public 

* Intereft, or upon what other evil Principles, we 
c are unwilling to remember or imagine j when, 
4 we fay, upon thofe, inftead of a Settlement up- 

* on the former Foundation, you began to enter- 
' tain Motions tending to the Unfettlement of what 

' yon 



^ENGLAND. 167 

' you had refolved ; and when, by that Uncertainty An. 24 CM. r. 

* and Unfettlednefs of Councils appearing within l648 ' 
' yourfelves, and the anfwerable Infinuations and 

' Influences of feveral Members, according to 
' their feveral Bents and Defires unto their refpec- 

* tive Correfpondents and Friends abroad, the 

* Minds of Men, without alfo, became proportion- 

* ably unfettled, tofled too and fro with various Ap- 
' prehenfions and Expectations which way Things 
' would bend, and all to fee fuch vaft Uncertain- 

* ty of any Settlement or End of Troubles upon 
' the Parliamentary Account alone ; then, and not 
' till then, began the Generality of the People to 
4 be apt for any new Motions, efpecially fuch as 
' looked towards a Settlement any way ; and then 

* began your Enemies to conceive frcfh Hopes and 

* Confidences, and beftirred themfelves accord- 

* ingly, to work your Trouble and their own 

* Advantages; The moft fubtle and foberof them, 

* diflembling the Intereft of their own Party, and 

* referving that at the Bottom as clofe and unfeen 

* as might be; and taking their Rife even from 

* that Unfettlednefs, and thofe Grounds of Jea- 

* loufies and Divifion they found amongft your- 

* felves, and the feveral Parties pretending to 
' Parliamentary Intereft; and from that Difpofition 

* they found in one Party by any Means to take 

* Advantage and Revenge a,gainft the other ; they 

* made Pretences, partly of public Interefts and 

* partly of the very particular Interefts of that Party 

* which they found moft difcontented amongft your- 

* felves, the Foundations whereupon to raife new 
4 Difturbances, and therein to engage a numerous 

* and mixt Party ; but upon fuch Grounds, and in 

* fuch a Way, wherein the Intereft of the King and 
' his Party were fo incorporated throughout, as that 

* the Profecution of all the other Interefts pretended, 

* in the Way that was laid, (hould carry on, and 

* at laft fet up, that of the King's and their own 

* above all others. 

' Thus the Army, which, after all poffible Trials 

* and Temptations, they found would never be 

L 4 * won 



1 68 he Parliamentary HISTORY 

An 1.^ Car. I. won to be their Friends, fo as to defcrt the Par- 

1648 * ^ amentai 7 an< * Public Intereft to fcrve their 

'^November. ' Turns, being therefore induftrioufly by them, 

* with the Futherance of difcontented Parties a- 

* mongft your Friends,, rendered the only common 

* Enemy ; and they themfelves, as it were, Friends 

* to all but it, and that fuppofed Party in Parlia- 
' ment and Kingdom that cordially upheld it ; they, 

* and their bufy Promoters of Petitions (ftirred up' 

* by their Emiflaries or Agents in all Counties, for 
' the engaging and cementing of this new-formed 
*-and intended general Party), being all taught the 
' fame Language, at firft profefs fair for the Par- 

* liament, or nothing aga;nft it ; but to be for a 
' full and free Parliament, and to deliver it from 

* the Force of an Army, pretend, for the Liberty of 

* the Subject: alfo, to free them from the Oppref- 
' fion and Tyranny of an Arm,y ^ to be for t e Law 

* of the Land againft the arbitrary Power of a Fac- 
4 tion in Parliament, fetting up and ifupporting 
' themfelves above Law by the P*>wer of an Army j 
' whereas, in Truth, their great and lateft Quar- 

* rel againft the Army was, That it would not force 
' the Parliament to comply with the Will andlnter- 

* eft of the King, to the Prejudice of the King- 

* dom's Liberties, and of the Power of Law therein, 

* nor defert the Parliament in their Adheren.ce to 
' thefe againft the King, 

' They pretended likewife to be much for the 
' Eafe of the People ; to free them from Taxes and 

* Contributions to an Army ; to be for the Settlc- 
' ment of Peace in the Kingdom, that there might 
' be no need of an Army ; whereas it was indeed 
' their reftlefs Workings, and watching all Advan- 
' tages, by Parties within this Kingdom or foreign 

* Aids, to fet up their own and the King's Intereft, 

* to the Ruin of the Parliament and Enflaving of 
the Kingdom, that did neceffitate the Parlia- 
' ment to continue an Army and Taxes to main- 
' tain it. 

* They pretended for Religion too, and for Re- 
1 formation, and the Covenant, againft an Army 

' of 



of ENGLAND. 169 

' of Slftaries t:nd Oppofers thereof; yea, they yet A - ** Jar 

4 pretended cvt-n for the Army itfelf, as to the Body v 4 ' 

* of it, and all but a Faction of Officers in it, fup- November. 
' porting themfelves in Power and Dominion by it, 
'that the Army might be fatisfied their Arrears, 
\ and go home. And, for all thefc fair Ends, 

* presuming upon the Parliament's Unfettledncii 

* and Weaknefs, as notable, or not knowing h,ow, 

* to provide for any of thefe Things of thcmfelve$ 

* without the King, a perfonal Treaty with the. 
' King miift be held forth as the only ibvereign 
Salve. 

4 Thus the People being made to depend mainly 

* upon the King for all, and his Intereft made ne- 

* ceffary to all, the other Pretences were but made 

* Ufe of to jfcrVe his Ends, and an eafy Way made 
f to fet up him and his Intereft above all. 

' As to the 'Hypocrify of thefe Pretences we need 
' fay nothing more; the Lord himfelf in our Si- 

* lence (even when by fuch Pretexts, and their 
4 quick Proceedings upon them, they had rhauo 
' fuch engageing Work for us in all Parts, as gave 

* us no Leifure to fay any Thing for the undecei- 

* ving of Men, or vindicating ourfelyes, or fo 

* much as to make any public verbaj Appeal to him 
4 for it) hath yet from Heaven judged 'them, and 
^ borne a clear Teftimony againft them in defcat- 
4 ing, with a fmall Handful, the numerous Parties 

* they had thus engaged within the Kingdom, and 
' drawn from elfewhere, under the very fame Pre- 
4 texts, to invade it ; and breaking the Force of 
4 thofe Defig'ns, 1 fo dunningly and takingly laid, 
' and fo ftrongly back'd with Advantages, as it was 
4 fcarce imaginable, in human Reafon, all Things 
4 confidered, how to aVoid them. . 

4 But however, working upon that Unfettlednefs 

* in the People's Minds, which trie Uncertainty 

* and Divifions in your own Councils had occa- 
4 fioned ; and having the Advantage of that gene- 
4 ral Difpofition, in a burthened and troubled 
' People, to entertaio any Motions, and follow 

' * any 



1 70 *Tbe Parliamentary HISTORY 

n. A Car. 1, any Party, pretending to end their Troubles and 

j ^ \ , ' eafe their Burthens againft the prefent Party in 

November. * Power from whom immediately they apprehend 

* them, they made a Shift to engage Multitudes to 

* petition for thefe Things ; and thence, under the 

* Pretence of freeing the Parliament from Force, 

* to raife Arms and levy War aojainft it, at beft, 
c to inforce their Petitions ; and, under the No-? 

* tion of freeing the People from Taxes to the Par- 

* liament and Quarter to the Army, to make them 
' incur greater Charges and Burthens for the King 
' and his Party ; and, by with-holding their Taxes 

* from the Parliament, to neceflitate Free-Quarter 

* again upon themfelves, which before they were 

* delivered from ; and, under the Notion of fet- 

* tling Peace and the Liberties of the Kingdom, to 

* break that we had ; and engage the People in an- 
' other War on the King's Behalf againft the Par- 

* liament and their own Liberties, and to get his 

* Party, with Commiffions derived, from him, into 
the Conduit and Management of it. 

* But whilft therein, with open Force, they do 
- * their utmoft to deftroy and fubdue you, they omit 

* not the driving on of that fureft Part in their De- 

* fign, a Perfonal Treaty, to deceive you, To 

* promote which they had, befides numerous and 
' daily Petitioners fcom all Parts, deluded and 
4 drawn in, by the aforefaid fpecious Pretences, thq 
' deluded Multitude and Rabble about the City, 

* with the old Malignants, new Apoftates, and 

* late difcontentcd Party, both in the City and Par- 

* liament itfelf j the one at your Elbows, the other 

* in your Bofoms, prefiing you incefiantly. The 

* Lords, in every Thing relating to the Treaty, 

* clofmg readily with the Defires of the City Ma- 

* lignants, the Prince, and all your Enemies ; and, 

* in their Votes for the fame, going before you, 

* and haling you after ; altho' in Things concern- 

* ing the Profecution of the War in your own and 

* the Kingdom's neceflary Defence, efpedally in 

* declaring with you againft thofe vifible Enemies 

4 * and 



of 



ENGLAND, 171 



* and Aors therein, the Scots Army and others, An - 2 * "' 

* they would neither lead nor follow. And when t *_* ' t 

* at any Thing propounded towards the Treaty, November. 

* wherein you found the very Life of your Caufe 

* and the Kingdom's to be concerned, you were 

* loath to give up that ; and thereupon made fome 

* Stick, then clamorous Petitions for a Concur- 
' rence came thick from the City, with Menaces 

* infmuated; many debauch'd Reformadoes, the 

* defperate Cavaliers, and rude Multitude about 

* the Cily, ring in your Ears with Railings and 
' Treats ; many faithful Members particularly 

* frighted or driven out of Town ; Forces lifted 

* and gathering daily about you, and this the City 
4 neither taking Courfe to reftrain, nor fuffering 
' their Major-General to do it ; but oppofing and 
' incountering his and your Authority in what he, 
4 by it, attempted for your Safety and Freedom ; and 
f thefe Courfes never ceafed until you had fully agreed 

* to a Perfonal Treaty, on fuch Terms as his Ma- 

* jefty himfelf was pleafed to entertain. 

4 By tnefe Means, and fuch continued Ufage 

* from the City and thofe in and about it, (at 
' whofe Mercy you were while your Army waj 

* engaged at a DifUnce atrniaft your Enemies in 
' Arms) by. that Time God had broke all their 

* Forces, delivered moft of them into your Hands, 
4 and crufti'd all their Hopes of availing that Way, 

* we find them at laft drawn into this milerable 
' Inconvenience of a Perfonal Treaty with him and 
4 his Adherents, who had fo long and inceflantly 
' tried all Interefts, and wearied all Friends in this 

* and many foreign Nations, by Force to deitroy 

* or fubdue you. In which, though we fee more 

* utter andj^fs avoidable Danger to the Kingdom's 

* Caufe, and to all the godly and hone ft People 

* engaged with you, than before, in your loweit 

* or worft Conditions, we ever yet apprehended ; 
' yet confidering, the Premises, and how great 

* the Change is from the Votes of no more Ad-? 
' drcfles, to, (not your wonted politive fending of 
' Propofitions anew, but) a Treaty, a Perfonal 

4 Treaty 




7 he Parliamentary HISTORY 

Treaty, without any previous Satisfaction or Sc~ 
curity j and a Treaty upon what Propofitions he 
November. * fliould make, as well as your own ; all which 
' both Houfes, yea, both Kingdoms, have fo often, 

* and always before, declined, voted, and declared 
' againft, as delufive and dangerous, yea deftruc- 
' tive, while the Parliament was unqueftionably 

* rnoft free. 

* We cannot but conceive that at that Time, 
< and in thofe Refolutions for fuch a Treaty, the 

* Judgment of Parliament was not with due and 

* former Freedom : And, therefore, not defpairjng 

* but that as Men drawn or driven into dangerous 
' Straits, you may readily entertain, or at leaft fa- 

* vourably refent, any Thing of Light or Encou- 

* ragement that may be offered towards the faving 

* or extricating of yourfelves and thofe you are in- 

* trufted for ; we fhall, with all Plainnefs and Faith 

* fulnefs. reprefent to you our Conceptions where 

* the main Danger feems to lie, and where any ' 

* Way to efcape ; and, we hope, 'twill be thought 

* no Arrogance in us or Difparagement to your 
' Wifdoms, fmce Lookers oh may pofiibly fee 

* fomething the Gamefters do not. 

For the Evils and Dangers of this Perfonal 

* Treaty : Had it been admitted to be indeed with 

* the King's Perfon in Parliament, efpecially at Lon- 
' don^ and in a full Condition of Honour, r-reedbm, 

* and Safety, (which had implied, that after all the' 
' Trouble, Lofs, Hazard, and the Expence of 
* Blood and Treafure, he had put the Kingdom 
unto, he fhould be admitted to his Throne and 

* Office, without any Satisfaction before given for 

* what was paft, or Security againft the like in fu- 

* ture) the Evil and Danger thereof had been fo, 

* viable, as nothing had need to have been faid to 
' unfold it. As it is now admitted and qualified 

* for Circumftances, (the Cafe beina; as it has 

* pleafed God to make it, that the King has no 
4 Power in the Field, whereby to take Advantages 

* during the Treaty) we (hall fay nothing to any 
* Dangers of that Kind, fuppofmg.no Agreement, 

fave 



^ENGLAND. 173 

c fave to,wifh you to confider the Opportunities of An> ** ^ 
' laying Defigns for his Efcape, or otherwife, and of t ' * ' 
' fettling future Correfpondences, which the Com- November. 
' pany and Confluence of fuch Perfons about him 

* does afford ; but we {hall chiefly confider the 

* great Evil or Danger of feeking to him by Trea- 

* ty, in your prefent Cafe, arid of an Agreement 

* or Accommodation to be thereby made with 
4 him, including his Impunity and Reftitution .to 

* his Freedom, Revenue, Dignity, Office, or Go- 
' vernment. 

Now, as to that the great Queftions will be* ( 
I/?, * Whether, as your and this Kingdom's 
c Cafe (lands, fuch an Accommodation would be, 
' i. Juft or good, and fo defirablej or, if not, 

* where the Injuftice or Evil lies ? 2. Whether 
' fafe, and to be admitted j or, if not, where the 
' Danger lies ? 

2<//y, * Admitting that, upon fome Suppofition$, 

' it might be good or fafe, Whether yet it can be 

- c fo, or fuch a one can be had in the Way and 

* Conditions of this Treaty, as the Cafe ftands ? 

4 If either in the general, or in refpedt of your 
4 and the Kingdom's prefent Cafe, and of the Way 

* and Conditions of this Treaty it cannftt be fafe, 
' then it concerns the Parliament not to admit fuch 

* an Accomodation or Agreement upon this Treaty ; 

* and, though it may be fafe, yet, if it be otherwife 

* evil or not good, then you have no Reafon but to 

* ufe any Freedom or juft Grounds remaining to 
' decline it. 

4 To thefe Queftions therefore, becaufe the Safe- 
4 ty or Danger, Good or Evil, in queftion, is 

* chiefly in relation to the public Intereft of the 

* Kingdom, and not fo much to particular Men's, 
4 (though even the particular Safety of fuch as have 
4 engaged for the Public is not to be negle&ed) to 
4 lead ourfelves and others to the clearer Judgment 
4 in the Point, we fhail premife a ftating of the 
c public Intereft in queftion, in Oppofition to the 
4 King's, and of his particular, Intereft oppofed 
thereto. 

4 The 



i 74 tte Parliamentary Pi I s T 

An. a* Car. I. * The Sum of the public Intereft of a Nati6n# 
^1648. ^ c j n relation to common Right and Freedom, 
November. * wn ' c ^ nas been the chief Subje6t of our Conteft* 

* and in Oppofition to Tyranny and Injuftice of 
c Kings or others, we take to lie in thefe Things 

* fdllowing : 

i/?, ' That for all Matters of fupreme Truft, or 

* Concernment tb the Safety and Welfare of the 
c whole, they have a common and fupreme Coun- 

* cil or Parliament ; and that as to the common 
' Behalf, who cannot all meet together themfelvesj 

* to coniift of Deputies or Repreferiters^ freely cho- 

* fen by them, with as much Equality as may be ; 

* and thofe Elections to be fucceffive and renewed^ 

* either at Times certain and ftated, or at the Call 

* of fome fubofdinate (landing Officer or Council 

* intrufted by them for that Purpofe, in the Intervals 

* of the Supreme, or elfe at both. 

2^/y, ' That the Power of making Laws, Con- 

* ftitutions, and Offices, for the Prefervation and 
' tjovernment of the whole, and of altering or re-'' 

* pealing and abolishing the fame, for the Remo- 

* val of any public Grievance therein, and the 

* Power of final Judgment concerning War or 

* Peace, the Safety and Welfare of the People, 

* and all Civil Things whatfoever, without further 
c Appeal to any created (landing Power, and the 

* fupreme Truft in relation to all fuch Things, 

* may reft in that fupreme Council : So as, 

1. * That the ordinary Ordering and Government 

* of the People may be by fuch Offices and Admi J - 
' niftrations, and according to fuch Laws and Rulesj 
' as, by that Council, or the Reprefentative Body 

* of the People therein, have been prefcribed or 
' allowed, and not other wife. 

2. * That none of thofe extraordinary or arbi- 

* trary Powers afore-mentioned may be exercifed 

* towards the People by any, as of Right, but by 

* that Supreme Council, or the Reprefentative Body 

* of the People therein ; nor without their Advice 
' and Confent may ajby Thing be impofed upon, 

* or taken from, the People ; or if it be otherwife 

~ ' attempted 



of E N O L A N D. 175 

* attempted by any, that the People be not bound An; 24. Car. I. 

* thereby but free, and the Attempters punifh- v 

* able. 

3. ' That thofe extraordinary Powers, or any 

* of them, may be exercifed by that Supreme Coun- 

* cil, or by the Reprefentative Body of the People 
' therein ; and where they fhall fee Caufe to afTume 

* and exercife the fame, in a Matter which they 
find neceffary for the Safety or Well-being of the 
' People, their Proceedings and Determinations 
' therein may be binding and conclufive to the 

* People, and to all Officers of Juftice and Mini- 

* fters of State whatfoever ; and that it may not be 
' left in the Will of the King, or any particular 
' Perfons (landing in their own Intereft, to oppofe, 
' make void, or render ineffectual fuch their De- 

* terminations or Proceedings ; and efpccially, fmce 
' the having of good Constitutions, and making of 
' good Laws, were of little Security or Avail, 
1 without Power to punifh thofe that break or go 

* about to overthrow them ; and many fuch Cafes 
' may happen, wherein the former Laws have not 

* prescribed or provided fufficiently for that Pur- 

* pofe, or the ordinary Officers intruftcd therewith 
4 may not be faithful, or not able, duly to execute 
' fuch Punimments on many Offenders in that 
1 Kind ; that therefore the fame Council or Repre- 

* fentative Body, therein, having the fupreme Truft, 

* in all fuch Cafes where the Offence or Default 

* is in public Officers, abufing or failing their 

* Truft, or in any Perfon whatfoever, if the Of- 
' fence extend to the Prejudice of the Public, may 

* call fuch Qffen.lers to Account, and diftribute 

* Punimments to them, either according to the 
' Law, where it has provided, or their own Judg- 

* ment where it has not -, and they find the Offence,' 
' though not particularly provided againft by parti- 
6 cular Laws, yet againft the general Law of Rea- 

* fon or Nations, and the Vindication of the pub- 

* lie Intereft, to require Juftke ; and that, in fuch 

* Cafe, no Perfon tv-hatfoeverfmay be exempt from 

* fuch Account or PunUhmeql, or have Power to 

I 



176 The P'arHamtnf'ary H i s T o R ir 

An. 24 Car. I. < protect others from their Judgment, or, without 

- .' * * ' their Confent, to pardon whom they have judged. 

Korember. * Thcfe Things contain the Sum or Main of 

4 public Intereft ; and as they are the ordinary 

* Subject of Civil Conteft in all mix'd States, 

* where they happeri betwixt the, People and thofe 
4 that have afTurned of claimed a ftanding Privilege 

* or Prerogative over them, fo they, have been in 
4 this of ours. And againft thefe Matters of pub- 

* lie Intereft, this King hath, all along his Reign, 
4 oppofed, and given himfelf up to uphold and ad- 

* vance the Intereft of his and his Pofterity's Will 
4 and Power; firft$ That .there mightbe.no fuch 
4 Coinmon-Councilj no. Parliaments at all to. re- 

* ftrain or check him; but that all .thefe Matters 
*" cif fupreme Truft, fconcerning Safety and all 
' Things e!fe, might reft in him and his Bread 

* alone, without Limit from, or Account to, any 
' on Earth ; and that all thofe extraordinary and 

* arbitrary Power over the People, their Laws, 
4 Liberties, Properties, yea, their Perfons and 
4 Confciences too might be exercifed at Pleafure 
' by himfelf, and fuch as he pleafed to derive the 
' fame unto: And as they were aflumed, fo how 
' vaftly and fadly ill they wentf exertifed by him, 
f to the Prejudice and Oppreflion of the Pe pie in 
' general, and the Ruin or Pcrfecution of all the 
4 Godly of the Land ; yea, even of thofe that were 

* but fober and honeft to Civil Intereft ; furely 

* (unlefs the greater Preffu res he hath fincc wrought 

* himfelf or brought upon us, by neceifitating the 
4 Parliament thereunto, have (wallowed up the 
4 farmer in Oblivion) we need not yet make any 
4 verbal Remembrance. 

* To fupport himfelf in that State or Height of 
' Tyranny, and make it abfolute, he raifed his firft 
4 and fecond Armies againft his People in both 
4 Kingdoms ; when he found he could not keep up 
c to that Height to have all thofe extraordinary 

* Powers and Matters of fupreme abfolute Truft 

* in himfelf alone, then he fell to play lower ; that 
4 at leaft none of them might be exercifed by any 

4 'other 



^ENGLAND, 177 

* other without him, nor not by all the Truftees of A "- *4 Car. r. 

* the Land, nor in any Cafe, tho' ever fo necefTary t ;6< ^ ^ 

* for the Relief or Saving of the People ; that if, November* 

* according to his former Claim, his People and 
4 Parliament would not admit him pofitively to 

* opprefs or dcftroy them at his Will, yet, by this 

* latter, they fhould have no Power to redrefs a 
4 Grievance, to provide for the Freedom, Wel- 

* fare, or fo much as immediate Safety, of them- 

* felves or the Kingdom, but at and according to 
4 his Pleafure ; and for this, when the Parliament 
4 did othervvife aflame in point of immediate Safety 

4 and Punifhment of Delinquents without him, he / 

* raifed his third Army, and held them up fo long 

* and fo much, to the Spoil and near Defolation of 
4 the Kingdom, till God wholly broke them, and 

* brought himfelf Captive into yoUr Hands. And 

* in this, though he raifed them with the Pretence 
4 only of oppofmg the Exercife of thofe extraordi- 

* nary and arbitrary Powers by yourfelves, or any 
4 other without him, which would not be allowed 

* himfelf to exercife alone; yet, in the raifmg and 
' having raifed that Force, he did by it aflame and 
4 exercife all Kinds of abfolute and arbitrary 
4 Powers at his own Will alone without Parliament ; 

* and how much further he would have gone in 

* Exercife of the fame, had he prevailed as you, we 
4 may eafily imagine. 

4 But as to that Part of his Claim againft the 

* public Intereft, viz. That there might be no 

* Power in Parliament to provide for immediate 
4 Safety, or do ought elfe for the People, but at 
4 and according to his Will, how ebftinately, even 
4 fince God gave him and his Party wholly into 
4 your Hands, hath he maintained and perfifted in 
4 it ? Even fo long as from foreign Parts or Alljes, 
4 from Irijh, Scots, from your own Divifions 4 or 
4 Difcontents of the People at the Burthens he ne- 
' cefiitated you to continue upon them, he had any 
4 Hopes, by Force, to prevail anainft you, or avoid 
4 any Conceflion againft that Claim : And of this 
4 his fo many Denials to the Propofitions t>f Peace, 

VOL. XVIII. M 4 which 



1 78 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

24. Car. 1. < which both Houfes and both Kingdoms have (b 
1648. often tendered and renewed, yea of thofe four 

~0lober ' ' on ty Bills, concerning purely that Public Intereft, 
and but a fmall Part of it, together with effential 
Precautions for a Treaty, do afford abundant 

* Evidence : As to which laft Tender, it is appa- 
' rent he had no Pretext left for Refufal, from ei- 
4 ther Scruple of Confcience, Matter of Harfhnefs 
' to his Party, or ought elfe, but the meer Intereft 

* of Will and Power to himfelf and his, which 

* fome Scott and other Correfpondences, it Teems, 

* then gave him Hopes yet, by Force, to uphold ; 
' infomuc'h as upon that Refufal, added to all the 
' former, you found it neceflary at laft to take up 
' thofe Resolutions of no further Addrefles to him, 
' but to fettle the Peace of the Kingdom without 

* him, and fecure it and yourfelves againft him ; 

* and, in order thereto, to keep his Perfon in fafe 
Cuftody at Cariflrcok'e Cajlle. 

' But when, his other Claims fo far failing, it 
^ came to this, he that before would not have al- 
'* lowed the Parliament or Kingdom a Power for 
' Safety but at his Will, would, at leaft, make 

* you know that neither you nor the Kingdom 
c fhould have any Peace or Quiet without him ; 

* and that neither Parliament nor any Power on 

* Earth, whatever Ills he had done, might, for it, 

* attach or meddle with his Sacred Perfon ; no not 

* fo much as to fecure him from Opportunities of 

* doing more : And for this laft Part of his Intereft 

* his fourth Army, the laft War, was raifed by 
' Commiflions from himfelf to the Prince, and, 
' from him, to as many more as would take any ; 

* and for the fame the Scots Invafion was pro- 

* cured. 

' The Pretext or Quarrel in this laft Engage- 

* ment feemed, as it were, to reach no higher than 
' only to refcue his privileged Perfon, and force the 

* Parliament yet, in a Perfonal Treaty, to feek 

* Peace at his Will ; and to let them fee they could 

* not otherwife have it, nor might do ought againft 

* his Perfon, no not to fecure him from doing fur- 

~* they 



of E N G L A jST t>. 179 

* ther Mifchief, though he make War and refufe An. 44 Car. I, 
1 Peace never fo long. 1648. 

And for this laft Piece of his Intereft, as op- s . T v '. |J 
4 pofite and deftruftive to that of the public as any 
4 of the former, though a Divine Teftimony has 

* been borne againft it, as full and more glorious, 
4 if poffible, than before againft any of the reft ; as 
' if God would thereby declare his defigning of that 
4 Perfon to Juftice ; yet the Parliament, after all 

* this, reftoring him, without any Pre-fatisfaclion 
4 or Security, unto a Kind of Liberty and State* 
4 only that he might appear in a Capacity to treat j 

* and then, by Treaty, feeking their Peace, and 

* all their Matters, before contended for, and, 
4 through God, gained againft him, to come now 
4 as Conceffions from his Will, do clearly yield 

* back that laft Piece of his claimed Intereft into 

* his Hands again ; and indeed therewith, feem to 

* render a more real Acknowledgement and yield- 
4 ing to him, both againft Parliament and King- 

* dom, as to the precedent juft Right of whateve; 

* is now demanded, or granted, as from him, than 
' all his verbal wrefted Conceffions or Confeffions 
' will be underftood to be, uhto Parliament or King- 
' dom, as to any future Clearing or Afliirance of 
4 thofe Things. 

* But, to return to our Purpofe. The Matters a- 

* forementioned being the main Parts of Public In- 
' tereft originally contended for on yoar Parts, and 

* theirs that engaged with you, and thus oppofed 
' by the King for the Intereft of his Will and 

* Power, many other more particular or fpecial 
4 Interefts have occafionally fallen into the Conteft 

* of each Party ; as firft, on the Parliament's Part, 
c to protect and countenance religious Men and 
Godlinefs in the Power of it ; to give Freedom 

* and Enlargement to the Gofpel, for the increa- 
4 fing and fpreading of Light amongft Men ; to take 
4 away thofe corrupted Forms of an outfide Re- 
4 ligion and Church-Government, whether im- 
' pofed without Law, or rooted in the Law irl 

* Times of Pofhip Ignorance or Idolatry, or of the 

M 2 ' 4 Gofpel's 



1 8o ne Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. z4Car. I. < Gofpel's dimmer Light; by Means whereof Snares 

v ll ' , 4 and Chains were laid upon confcientious and zea- 

November. * l us Men, and the Generality of People held in 

* Darknefs, Superftition, and a blind Reverence of 
' Perfons and outward Things, fit for Popery and 
4 Slavery ; and alfo to take away or loofen that 
' Dependance of the Clergy and Ecclefiaftical Af- 
' fairs upon the King, and that Intereft of the 

* Clergy in the Laws and Civil Affairs, which the 
c Craft of both in Length of Time had wrought 
' for each other ; which feveral Things were the 

* proper Subject of the Reformation endeavoured by 

* the Parliament. 

4 Contrary wife, on the King's Party, their Intereft 

* was to tlifcountenance and fupprefs the Power of 

* Godlinefs, or any thing of Conference obliging 
4 above or againft human and outward Conftitu- 
4 tions ; to reftrain or lefTen the Preaching of the 
'-Gofpel and Growth of Light amongft Men ; to 
4 hold the Community of Men, as much as might 
' be, in a darkfome Ign jrance and Superftition, or 
' Formality in Religion, with only an awful Re- 
' verence of Perfons, Officers, and outward Difpen- 
4 fations, rendering them fit Subjects for Ecclefia- 
4 ftical and Civil Tyranny ; and, for thefe Ends, 

* to advance and fet up further Forms of Super- 
' ftition, or at leaft hold faft the old which had 
'. any Foundation in the Laws, whereby Chains 
' and Fetters might be held upon, and Advantages 
' taken againft, fuch in whom a Zeal or Confcience 

* to any thing above Man (hould break forth ; and 
4 to uphold and maintain the Dependance of the 

* Clergy and Church Matters upon the King, and 
" the Greatnefs of the Clergy under him ; and, in 

* all thefe Things, to oppofe the Reformation en- 

* deavoured by the Parliament. 

* Alfo, on the Parliament's Party, their Intereft, 

* as well as Duty, was to discountenance Irreligion, 
' Profanenefs, Debauchery, Vanity, Ambition, and 

4 Time-ferving ; and to prefer fuch efpecially as 
4 were otherwife given, viz. Confcientious, ftricl 

* in 



of E N G L A N D. 181 

' in Manners, fober, ferious, and of plain and pub- An - 2 4 Car - 

* lie Spirits. ,__ 

' Contrary to thefe, on the King's Party, it was November. 
' to countenance or connive at Profanenefs, Loofe- 

* nefs of Manners, Vanity and Luxury of Life ; 

* and prefer efpecially fuch as had a Mixture of 
4 Ambition and vain Glory with a fervile Spirit, 

* rendering them fit to ferve another's Power and 

* Greatneis, for the enjoying of fome Share therein 
' to themfelves ; in all or moft of which RefpecSh, 

* it has been the great Happinefs and Advantage 

* to Parliamentary and Public Intereft, that it hath 

* been made one with the Intereft of the Godly, 

* or, for the Name whereof it has been fo much de- 

* rided, the Saints ; as on the ether Side, the King's 
' hath been made one with their greateft Oppofites ; 
' by Occafion whereof God hath been doubly en- 
gaged in the Caufe, viz. For that, and for the 
' Righteoufnefs of it. And to this indeed, through 
' the Favour and Prefence of God therewith, the 

* Parliament hath Caufe to own and refer the Blef- 

* fmg and Succefs that hath accompanied their Af- 

* fairs ; which, accordingly as they have held 

* fquare, and been kept clofe to this, have prof-^ 
' pered glorioufly ; and, (wherein, or fo oft as this 
c hath been thwarted, fwerved from, or neglected 
' in their Manage) have fuffered miferable Blaft- 
' ings. 

* Thus have we endeavoured to give a juft and 

* plain State of the Parliamentary or Public In- 

* tereft, and the feveral Parts of it, and of the 

* King's in Oppofition thereto, which have been 

* the Ground or Subject of Contefts all along this! 
' King's Reign ; and efpecially fince this Parlia-j 
' ment began, as may appear in the Beginnings, 

* Progrefs and feveral Steps of the Conteit : And, 
' by what hath been occasionally faid herein, fome 

* Judgment may -be made, how far fafe or good* 
' the Accommodation is like to be that can be ex- 

* pefted by the prefent Treaty. But the feveral 

* and oppofite Interefts being thus ftatcd, we mail 

M 3 * pro- 



1 82 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. I. proceed more clearly to fpeak a little to the Qjie- 
L l6 **' , ftions ftated before : 
November. ' ^A therefore, as to the Goodnefs (which firft 

* implies the Juftnefs) of fuch an Accommodation, 
' we cannot but fuppofe, 

i. * That where a Perfon, trufted with a limi- 

* ted Power to rule according to Laws, and by his 
' Truft, with exprefs Covenant and Oath alfo, ob- 

* liged to preferve and protect the Rights and Li- 

* berties of the People, for and by whom he is iri- 

* trufted, (hall not only pervert that Truft, and 

* abufe that Power to 'the Hurt and Prejudice of 
' the Generality, and to the Oppre0ion, if not De- 
' ftruction, of many of them ; but alfo, by the 

* Advantage of that Truft and Power he hath, 

* ftiall rife to the affuming of hurtful Powers which 
f he neyer had committed to him ; and indeed 
' take away all thofe Foundations of Right and 

* Liberty, and of Redrefs or Remedy too which 
' the People had referved from him ; and to fwal- 

* low up all into his own abfolute Will and Power j 

* to impofe or take away, yea, to deftroy at Plea- 

* fure ; and declining all Appeal herein to the e- 

* ftablifhed equal Judgment, agreed upon as it 

* were betwixt him and his People in all emergent 
' Matters of Difference betwixt them, or to any 
' Judgment of Men at all, (hall fly to the Way 

* of Force upon his trufting People ; and attempt 
4 by it to uphold and eftablifh himfelf in that ab- 
' folute tyrannical Power fo aflumed over them, 
' and in the Exercife thereof at Pleafure j fuch a 

* Perfon, in fo doing, does forfeit all that Truft 

* and Power he had ; and, abfolving the People 
' frem the Bonds of Covenant and Peace betwixt 
' him and them, does fet them free to take their 
^ beft Advantage ; and, if he fall within their Power 
' to proceed in Judgment againft him, even for that 

* alone, if there were no more. 

2. That if after he is foiled in fuch an At- 

* tempt, brought to quit that Claim, to confefs 
f hjs QfFence therein, and give them forne verbal 

' and 



gf ENGLAND. 183 

c and legal Afiurances of Remedy and future Se- An - 2 4 Car - 
' curity ; and his Parliament and People thereupon t 1468- 

* remitting or willing to forbear that Advantage November. 
' againtt him, the fame Perfon, fo foon as he finds 

' himfelf a little freed from the Advantage which 
' drew thofe Confeflions and Conceffions from him, 

* (hall go about to avoid or overthrow all again j 

* fhall deny them neceflary Redrefles or Security ; 

* flop or oppofe them in going thereabout ; deny 

* them all Power either of Redrefs or immediate 

* Safety, but at and according to his Will ; and af- 

* fume the Power to avoid and oppofe any thing 

* they {hould do without him, who had fo lately 

* forfeited all the Power he had unto them ; and 
' for all this fly to Force again ; raife it without 
' Limit ; by it protect Delinquents from judicial 

* Proceeding ; and refume and exercife again alone, 

* even fitting a Parliament, all the exorbitant and 

* unlimited Powers he had fo lately difclaimed ; pro- 

* claim that Supreme Council, by which he ought 

* to govern himfelf and the Kingdom, Traitors 
c and Rebels, who had indeed fo lately indulged 

* him his firft Treafon and Forfeiture - 3 and, on 

* thefe Terms, maintain a War many Years a- 
c gainft them, to the fpilling of much Blood, and 

* Defolation or Spoil of a great Part of the King- 

* dom ; try all Means and Interefts, by Divifions and 

* Parties ftirred up within, and Invafions from a- 

* broad, to lengthen it out longer ; and aftr he 
' was fubdued, wholly in their Power and at their 
' Mercy, to revive and renew it ; multiplying Di- 
' fturbances, and never ceafmg till he had wearied 

* all Friends in his own and neighbour Nations, or 

* folong as any Hopes were left whereby poffibly to 

* prolong it ; and ail this meerly to upMold the In- 
' tereft of his Will and Power againft the common 

* Intcreft of his People j fuch a Perfon in fo doing 

* (we may juftly fay is guilty of the higheft Trea- 
c fon againft the higheit Law among Men, but 

* however) muft needs be the Author of that un- 

* iuft War ; and therein guilty of all the innocent 

M 



184 Vfa Parliamentary HISTORY 

Blood fpi'it thereby, and of all the Evils confequent 

or concomitant thereunto. 

4 Now, to afiume hereupon, whether the King 
4 has not, in the fame Cafe, aded all thefe Things 
4 and more, we dare appeal to the Story and Evi- 

* dericc : If he has not, or can juftly alledge and 
4 make it appear, that what he has ated thereof 

* has not been for the Intereft of his Will or Power, 

* or not againft the public Intereft of his People ; 

* or that -the Parliament, or any particular Party 
4 in the Kingdom, have raifed or continued the 

* War for private Interefts of their own, and not 
4 for that public Intereft of the Kingdom, which 
' we have before ftated; but that they might have 

* had all that cleared and allured to the Kingdom 
' with Quietnefs, and would not accept it ; let him 
4 then be acquitted in Judgment, and the Guilt 

* and Blame be laid where elfe it is due. But if 
' indeed he hath acted fuch Things, and in fuch 

* Cafe, as before expreft, and all for the particular 
4 Intereft of his Will and Power againft the Pub- 

* lie Intereft of the Kingdom ; then, (without Men- 

* tion orConfideration of ought he has done againft 
4 God and Godlinefs, or godly Men ; and tho' we 
4 have tquch'd but a few of thofe many moral or 

* civil Evils acted by him, which have been judged 
4 capital in feveral of his Predeceflors from whom 
4 he claims, yet) from that alone which is before 
4 fpoken of, we may, without Need of his late im- 

* plicit Confeffion, conclude that he has been the 
f Author and Continuer of a moft unjuft War j and 
4 is confequently guilty of all the Treafon it contains, 
4 and of all the innocent Blood, Rapine, Spoil, and 
4 Mifchief to the Kingdom acted or occafioned 

* thereby ; and if fo, how far the public Juftice of the 
f Kingdom can be fatisfied, the Blood, Rapine, &c. 
4 avenged or expiated, and the Wrath of God for 

* the fame appeafed, without Judgment executed 

* agaiuft him j and confequently, how far an Ac- 
4 commodation with him, implying a Reftitution 
? pf him, when God had} given him fo clearly 

4 intq 



of E N G L A N D. 1^5 

* into your Power to do Juftice, can be juft before An. *+ r * r - T - 

* God, or good Men, (without fo much as a judicial 

* Trial, or evident Remorfe appearing in him pro- 
c portionable to the Offence) we thus recomme*nJ to 
' your faddeft and moft ferious Confideration, wha 
' muft one Day be accountable for your Judgments 
' here on Earth, to that which is the higheft and 

* moft juft. 

c Indeed both as to the Juftnefs and public Benefit 
' of fuch an Accommodation, we mail confefs, (if 
' there were good Evidence of a proportionable Re- 

* morfe in him, and that his coming in again were 
' with a new or changed Heart, as to thefe Things 
4 he hath formerly fought againft, and from thofe he 
e hath contended for, his Offence being firft judged 

* according to Righteoufhefs) his Perfon might be 
' capable of Pity, Mercy, and Pardon ; and an Ac- 

* commodation with him^ with a full and free 
' yielding, on his Part, to all the aforefaid Parts of 

* Public and Religious Intereft in Conteft, might, 
' in charitable Conftruction, be juft, poffibly faie 
1 and beneficial : Or if in the Heat of War, before 

* God had fo clearly given his double Judgment 
1 r.gainft him in the Caufe, or delivered him into 

* your Hands for yours ; and while Affairs ftood 

* in fome equal Balance, you then in Love of Peace, 
4 which 'tis good to feek with all Men, and for 

* faving a further Blood-fhed and Mifery to the 
' Kingdom, (which in that Cafe you could not 
' otherwife avoid) had, upon a full Provifion for 
' the Matters in Queftion, and good Security for 
' the future againft him^ made a Peace, by Ac- 

* commodation with him, as by your many Ad- 
? dreffes you endeavoured, it might have been 

* excufable in Point of Prudence ; though you 

* had incurred a more remote future Hazard, be- 

* caufe thereby you had avoided another more 
4 immediate and p relent ; yea the Hazard had been 
1 lefs, bccaufe to what he had then agreed, ail 

* Men would have accounted him bound, beini; 

* then unqueftionably free ; and the Point of Jufticc 
f had not then been fo clearly required at your 

Hands, 



1 86 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. Z4 Car. I.* Hands, becaufe not yet altogether in your Power. 
l6 ^' * But as this whole latter Suppofidon is, by Trne 

November. * and the good Hand of God towards you, excluded 
' the Cafe, fo neither is there any colourable Ground 
' for the former, but Evidence of the contrary: For, 
f as to that only Colour of any Change of Heart 

* in him, which his implicit Confeffion of a Fault, 

* in yielding to your firft Propofition, does import ; 
e firft, how flight and (lender that Confeffion is, 
' the Tenor of that Propofition may fJbcw ; and 

* yet, had he timely, freely and clearly, confefled 

* but fo much, as from Conviction or Remorfe, or 
' from a Scnfe of the Hand of God againft him, 

* or had left us but a Ground of Charity to believe 

* it fo, we fhould have thought ourfelves bound to 

* regard it with proportionable Tendernefs towards 
' him ; or at leaft, fhould have thought it not in- 

* genuous nor ChrifHan to take Advantage, from 

* fuch Confeffion, the more to profecute him for 

* it ; but having fo long and obftinately, both in. 

* Word and Practice, till now, denied it ; and ne- 

* ver confeft it, untill all his other Ways of Force, 

* Policy, or Fraud, whereby he hath attempted to 

* juftify himfelf, had failed him ; and no other 

* Shift left, but by this forced, yet feeming yield- 
' ing, Acknowledgement to fave himfelf and de- 

* lude the People, untill he can find or work out 
' fome new Advantage ; and confeffing it now but 

* conditionally, viz. So as you agree with and fa- 
' tisfy him in other Things j which Kind of Con- 
' feffion, where the Matter in QuelHon is con- 
'^cerning true or falfe, juft or unjuft, and extend- 
c ing to Innocency or horrid Sin, does feem to 

* imply fuch Hypocrify as, we think, was never 
' yet fo proclaimed before God and the W^orld : 
' And when, at the fame Time, while thus ia 
c Words he confefieth it, yet in Practice he denies 
' it (till, by his continuing and not recalling his 
c Commiffions to the Prince and other Englljb Re- 

* bels and Revolters ; yea to Qrmond and his af- 
4 fociated Irijh Rebels alfo, all which are fo con- 

* trary to that verbal Confeffion \ and by his try- 



of ENGLAND. 187 

e ing all Interefts ftill to make a.Party againft it ; An. 24. Ca?. I. 
' in this Cafe, it were Stupidity, rather than Cha- l 1 fc4 " ' j 

* rity, nay indeed we think a Wrong to his Inten- November. 
' tions, to undcrftand that Confeflion as from in- 

' ward Remorfe or Conviction : So that as the Cafe 
4 ftands, it goes only fo far as may ferve for further 
' Ground of Condemnation againft him ; but not 
' at all of Satisfadlion from him. 

* And admitting no fuch Change or Conviction, 

* even when there are verbal Confeflion s and Con- 
' cefnons carrying a Semblance thereof, but that 

* his Reftitution would be with the fame Principles 

* and Affections, both as to Civil and Religious In- 
' terefts, from which he hath acted the paft Evils ; 
' and, after fome former like Acknowledgements 
' and Agreement, hath returned to the fame Byafs 
' upon his next Advantages ; then, befides the 
' Unrighteoufnefs of the Accommodation and Re- 
' admiflion, which is before already cleared ; and 
befides Matter of Danger, which we (hall fhew 
' in its Place, we defire all good Men to confider 
' it as to the other Point, the public Benefit. 

' And here, what Fruits can be hoped from fuch 

* a Re-union or renewed Communion betwixt thofe 
' Contraries God hath once fo feparated, viz. Of 
' Principles or Affections of Liberty, with Prin- 
' ciples of Tyranny ; Principles of public Intereft, 

* with Principles of Prerogative and particular In- 

* tereft ; Principles of Zeal and the Power of God- 

* linefs, with Principles of Formality and Superfti-r 
' tion in Religion; we might fay indeed, of Light 
' with Darknefs, of Good with Evil, as would be 

* implied in his Reftitution ; to be, as it were, your 
c Head, your King again, and to have that high Truft 

* and Influence in relation to our Peace, Rights, 

* and Liberties, civil and religious, with the fame 
' Principles and Affections from which he hath fo 

* much and fo long oppofed them ? For, if his 

* Kingly Office be not of Ufe or Truft in relation 
' to them, what needs his Reftitution ? If it be, 

* then this Doubt holds juft, 

Next 




Parliamentary H i s T o. R y 

Next, to the other Part of the preceeding Que-' 
< ftion, tt/z. Concerning the Safety of an Agree - 
November ment for his Reftimtion, efpecially fuppofing no 
' real Remorfe or Change, but ftill the lame Piin- 
f ciples and Affections j although in the Terms of 
' the Accommodation and Reftitution, you had a 

* more ample Conceffion of the Public Intereft in 
' Queftion than you are like to have when he hath 
' granted all you have demanded, and as full Se- 
' curity for future Obfervance of the Agreement 

* as \Vords or Letters, yea Oaths, can give ; and 
' though we might fuppofe him as true and juft 
' in the Obfervance of fuch an Agreement as other 
' Kings or Princes (once given up unto, and en- 
' gaged upon, fuch Principles and Ways of Tyran- 

* ny or Self-intereft) ufe to be ; yet, firft in general, 
4 we might make a juft Appeal to the Experience 

* of Ages and Nations, what Danger there is in any 

* fuch Accommodations, both to the Public Intereft 
' in Conteft, and to the Perfons or Parties that 
' have engaged for it ; and we might challenge 

* all Story for one Inftance in the like Cafe,, viz. 

* Where any fuch King, claiming and afluming 
4 fuch Powers and Prerogatives over a People be- 

* yond his Bounds ; and, upon Oppofition from the 

* People therein, flying to Force ; and, in a War 

* upon them, endeavouring to gain the fame by 

* Conqueft ; but inftead thereof lofmg both what 

* he fo claimed, and all he had before in a full 
c Conqueft, on their Parts, over him ; we fay, in 

* fuch Cafe, we would fain fee an Inftance where 

* ever, after fo long a War, fo much Blood fpilt, 

* and fuch Spoil made, the People having at laft 
' wholly fubdued him, and gained their own Caufe 
4 in that Way of Force and Conqueft, to which 
' he had fo appealed, and having him and his Par-* 
' ty captivated and in their Power, did either will- 
' ingly fubjedl all to Qiieftion again in a Treaty 
' with him of their own tendering ; or by it feek 
' both that Public Infereft, (or rather but a flender 
* : Portion of that which" God had fo wholly and free- 

My, 



of E N G L A N D. 189 

c ly, by his righteous Judgment, given unto them) An - 2 4 ^ dr - r 

* and even their own Safety and Indemnity there- 
' with, to be all had as Conceflions or that their 
4 Enemy's Hand ; and deeming him as a Perfon 
4 not punilhable or accountable for whatever Evil 
' he had endeavoured or done, to reftore him up- 
' on fuch Conceflions to his Throne again ; we fay, 

* we would gladly have a parallel Inftance, where 
' ever indeed any People, before this, were in the 
4 like Cafe given up to fuch a prepofterous and felf- 

< defeating Way ; or an Inftance of almoft any Ac- 
commodation of the like Kind at all, with a Re- 

< admiflion of fuch a Perfon to the fame Office, 
State, and Revenue, with the leaft Shadow of 
8 the fame Power, or to the leaft Footing therein, 
upon the fame Account or Claim of Right, on 
the Foundation whereof he had before afl'umed 

* fuch Powers ; where fuch Accommodations ever 
6 proved fafe either to the Public Intereft in Con- 

* teft, or to 'the Perfon s engaged therein ; or did 
not prove ruinous to the one and the other, or 
1 at leaft end in the Irruptions of new and more 
4 bloody and bitter Contefts about the fame Things, 

< either in the fame or fucceeding Age, and thofe 

< with more Hazard and Difadvantage to the Pub- 

* lie Intereft and Party adhering thereto, than the 
4 former j or where indeed any People contending, 

* and once engaging in War againft a Tyrant for 

< their Liberties, did ever fully redeem and hold 
the fame with a Re-admiflion of him ; or with- 

* out, firft or laft, difclaiming and renouncing all 
4 Dependance on him, or Accord with him for the 
' fame ; and an utter Rejection, Expulfion, and 

* Depofure, either of his whole Race, and all that 

* claimed upon the fame Account of Right, or, at 
' leaft, of his particular Perfon ; and Execution of 

* Juftice upon him, if he fell within their Power. 

' With this latter Way of proceeding we have 
c heard of many Inftances of People fully recover- 

* ing their Liberties, and happily retaining the fame; 

* but, without it, or in the former Way of Accom- 

* modation and Reftitution, we have not heard, or 

5 * read, 



1 96 he Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. < read, of any fo fucceeding. There is abunda/U 
, ' Experience to teach us how ordinary, yea, we 

* may fay conftant, a Thing it has been for Kings 

* and Princes in fuch Cafes, when they could not 

* prevail in the Way of Force, to leave that, and 
' apply themfelves by Fraud to accomplifh their 

* Ends and Wills upon the People ; and when, in 

* fuch Contefts with them by the Sword, they have 
' been brought into Straits, then to cry up Peace ; 
' and, under that glorious Golden Bate, which the 

* People, wearied with War, and the troublefome 

* and chargeable Concomitants thereof, are moft 

* apt to catch at, having drawn them into Ways 
' of Accommodation, to make fome feigned Yield- 

* ing-tip of thofe Prerogatives and Advantages they 
' find they cannot hold ; and, by large Promifes, 

* Conceflions, and Aflurances on any Terms, to 

* make Agreements with them, whereby to quiet 

* the People, and get themfelves into the Throne 
4 again ; and yet afterwards, upon their next Ad- 
' vantage, to break and make void all again, and 

* profecute fuch Advantages, to the Overthrow^both 

* of the Public Intereft, and thofe that had cngag'd 
' for it, without Regard of Faith or Oath, further 
f than Neceflity hath held them thereto, where 
' any Advantage for the accompliming of their 
' Ends hath led them to a Breach. How apt firft 

* fuch Princes are to this, and next how eafy it is 

* for them, when they find Advantages, to find 
4 Occafions alfo, and pick Quarrels to make a 

* Breach, even with a colourable Saving to their 
' Faith and Honour, engaged in fuch Agreements ; 

* and laftly, how eafy alfo, after tftey are fo got 

* into the Saddle again, and the People, by their 
' fair Conceflions, Promifes, and Engagements, 
c lull'd into a Security, to find or work out fuch 
4 Advantages to themfelves ; and profecute them to 

* greater Prejudice both of the Public and the par- 
' ticular Perfons engaged for it, than before fuch 
' Contefts begun, or, without fuch Accord there- 
' upon, they could have done ; as Experiences do 

* abound, fo there wants not Reafon enough to 

* teach us. 

' For 



^ENGLAND. 1 9 1 

* For the firft : Where a Prince is once given An - 2 4 c - r - 

up to that Self-intereft of his Will and Power, fo , 5 * s> 

* as to make it his higheft End, or, at leaft, to pre- November* 
' fer it above the Public Intereft and Welfare ; yea 

* above the Safety and Peace of his People, (as, 

* Where he makes War againft them for it, it is 
' apparent he does) and to prefer it above Religion 
4 too, (;'.s is evident, when he attempts the mould- 
' ing and forming of Religion to fubferve that End) 

* fuch a Perfon fare cannot want any Principles of 
' Falfhood, Cruelty, or Revenge, fuitable to fuch 

* an End ; neither in Reafon is it like that he will 

* regard any Engagements of Faith or Oath, or 

* flop or boggle at any thing of that Kind, further 
' than Neceffity does hold him thereto, or where 
' a Neceflity or Advantage, for the accompliftiing 

* of that his* higheft End, does lead to a Breach. 

* And indeed, when the Bonds once accepted by 
' him with unqueftionable Freedom, at his Admif- 
' fion to the Throne, the Bonds of Law, yea the 
' fundamental Bonds of Truft betwixt him and his 
' People, the very Covenant of Peace, yea the 
' Oath of God betwixt them would not hold him ; 
' but of his own Mind, without Occafion before 
' given, have been all violated by him : And, to 
' juftify himfelf, and protect his Inftruments in 
' that, the Law of Force, admitting no Bounds 

* but Power, hath been chofen and fet up by him, 

* and profecuted to the utmoft in a long and bloody 
c War ; how can it be expedled that the Bonds of 

* new Conceflions and Agreements, with whatever 
' Aflurances, that are but verbal or literal, being 
' impofed by Force upon him, or yielded to from 
' nothing but an invincible or powerful Neceflity, 
' can be of more Awe or Rega*rd with him, or 
' Power to hold him, when any Advantage to gain 

* what he fought, or recover what he loft, does of- 

* fer itfelf ? And as for Revenge ; how natural it 

* is for a Prince, fo given up to that Self-intereft 
' of Will and Power, and how neceflary to his In - 

* tereft to feek and pfofecute Revenge againft all 

* eminent Oppofers, and much more the Oppug- 

' ners 



1 92 *fbe Parliamentary H i s T o R t 

An. 24 Car. i. < ners thereof, we wifh your own Reafon, and the 

^ , ' Experience of others, may rather warn you than 

November c that y ou Should put it to Trial in your own 
4 Cafes. 

* And hath your and our Experience of this 
' King, with whom we havef to do, given Caufe to 

* hope better Things from him, in thefe Refpefts, 

* than other Ages or Nations ever found from other 
4 Princes in the like Cafe ? Firfr, for Point of 
4 Faith-keeping, befides his firft numerous Breaches 
' of his original Faith to his Kingdoms in the whole 

* Manage of his Government and Truft before the 
' Wars, witnefs his Accords with the Scots Na- 

* tion, and how he kept them ; his feeming Com- 

* pliances inpartwith this Parliament, in the Time 

* of his Straits, and feigned Acknowledgments of 
c part Errors, with Promifes of Redrefs and future 
4 Amendment, untill your Bounty, in paying ofF 
' the Scots and Englijh Armies at that Time, had 
4 delivered him from thofe Straits ; and then, fo 

* foon as you came to thofe Particulars which 
4 fhould have effectuated that Redrefs and aflured 

* future Remedy, by tying his Hands, and deter- 
c ing others from the like Exorbitances, imme- 

* diately flying out again to higher and greater; 

* and, firft by Policy, then by Force, going about 

* to overthrow thofe Foundations of Remedy which 
' he had granted in the afcertaining of this Parlia- 

\ * ment, &c. And let thofe many Particulars of 

* Hypocrify, Diflimulation, and Treachery, couch- 

* ed under his faireft Overtures, Profeilions, and 
' Proteftations, which yourfelves in feveral Decla- 

* rations have obferved and recorded, befpeak what 
4 Caufe there is to confide in his Promifes or En- 
4 gagements. 

4 As to his Innocency in point of Revenge,' 

* witnefs thofe petty Revenges, after feveral Par- 

* liaments, and yet fotne of them extending to 

* Death through Hardfliip of Imprifonment, which 
' were fought and taken againlt fuch Patriots as 

* had, in them, appeared but to aflert the com- 
4 mon Liberties againft his Intereft. Witnefs his 

'At- 



if ENGLAND. 193, 

5 Attempts of higher, in the Proceedings agairift An. 44 Car. I. 
k the Members he impe >ched ; and let the feveral t , .. l6 *? 

* Defignations of fome toi the Slaughter, fome to November, 

* Exile, others to Prifons^ all to Mifery of one 

* Sort or other, which, upon any Hopes of pre- , 

* vailing in the former or latter War, have been 
' made againft his eminent Oppofers amongft you, 

* fuffice to teach you and your Adherents, what 

* Mercies might be expected from him and his 
' Party, if he ever had, or yet ftiall gain, the Ad- 
4 vantage over you. 

' Next, for the Facility of a Prince's finding 
c Occafion and Quarrel after fuch art Agreement 

* to make a Breach, when he finds his Advantage, 
' and yet with fome colurable Saving to his Ho- 

6 nour : We know, in all mutual Agreements, 

* where each Party grants and takes, and fome- 

* thing is to be made good by each Party towards 
e the other$ how eafy it is to find< or pretend, a 

* Failure of full Performance^ arid thence to avoid 
4 the Obligation to the Agreement ; and efpecially 
' in Agreements of StatCj if all Matters df Power^ 
4 Truft* and Right* are not fully cleared and de- 

* termined, fo as to ftate the Supreme Truft and 
' conclufive Judgment, to all Intents and Purpofes* 

* fully and abfolutely in one Party or other, but 
' that fomething be left divided* or at leaft fuf- 

* pended, betwixt them ; in fuch Cafe, how eafy is 

* it for the Party that is Lofer by the Agreement to 

* find, or feign, an Intrenchment of the other be- 
' yond the itated Bounds, and thr-fice to make a 
' new Breach when he fees his Advantage for it ? 

* But however, when any Thing within the Com- 

* pafs of what was fo left fufpended does, in Prac- 

* tice, come to Queftion and Difference, 'and neither 
'.Party trufted fingly to conclude, there is a clear 

* Foundation for a Breach ; unlefs they either agree 
c to lay the Matter afide^ which perhaps the gain- 
' ing Party cannot do, and fo, by the Lofer Vmeer 
' ftanding ofFj may be ncccflitated to appear the 

* firft Actor in a Breach, or elfe come to a new 

* Agreement upon every fuch Particular. 

VOL. XVIII. N We 



tfke Parliamentary HISTORY 

c We know, befides, what Court Maxims there 

* are amongft the King's Party concerning fome 
N*Tubcr. * Fundamental Rights of a Crown, which the King 

* cannot give away ; and their common Scruple 

* whether a King, granting away fuch or any other 

* Hereditary Crown-Rights, can oblige his Heirs 

* or Succeflbrs, or exclude their Claim : But if all 
4 other Pretexts fail, their Non-obligation to what 
4 is wrefted from diem by Force, in a powerful 

* Rebellion, as they count it, will ferve fuch a 

* King's Confcience for a Shift to make a Breach, 

* where he finds his Advantage. And are not all 

* thefe Occafions or Pretexts obvious in our Cafe ! 
' To fay nothing of the Matters of Supreme Power 

* and Trufr, which, though all your Propofitions 
, 4 be granted, will yet be left divided or fufpended, 

* not only betwixt the feveral Houfes, but betwixt 

* them both and the King ; nor yet of the im- 

* perfect bargaining for feveral Parts of it, which, 

* by the Tenor of the Proportions, are taken, 

* Come, as it were, by Leafe, all by Grant, from 

* the King, fo as to confirm rather than weaken 

* his Claim of the original Right to be in him and 

* his ; from both which Kinds of Defect or Uncer- 

* tainty in the Agreement there will be left many 
' apt Occafions, an<i particular Grounds, for a 

* Breach when Time fhall ferve. Is it not appa- 
*" rent that, from that more general Confideration 

* of the Condition of the King in this Treaty, and 

* the Force or Keceflity lying upon him, a Ground 

* of Evalion or Exception lies to the whole Agree - 

* ment, as not obliging on the King's Part, what- 
c ever Conceflions or Aflurances are fo drawn from 

* him ? What Account the King and his Party do 

* upon that Ground make of the Treaty, befides the 

* common Voice of them all in all Corners, That 
4 the King, good Man, is meerly forced to what 

* he grants, we may fee it publickly and authen- 

* tickly avowed by the Prince and his Council, in 
4 his Declaration in Anfwer to the Earl of War* 
1 weft Summons of the revolted Fleet at Gone ; 

4 where, 



of ENGLAND. 

* where, befides other PaiTages hinting the fame An 
4 Thing, the Prince clearly fays (a], The King, in 

' Truth, is Jlill in Prifon, with fuch Circumjlances 

* of Rejfraint, as, to Jay no more, are net ufual in 
4 the Cafe of the moji private Pcrfon ; and wkoje 
4 Delivery and Freedom therefrom all his Subjects 
4 are obliged to endeavour, by tht Laws of God and 

* Man, to their utmoft Hazard; and afterwards 
4 invites the Earl of Warwick to join with his 
4 Highnefs, in the Refcue of his Royal Father from 
4 his unworthy Imprifonment. This being in An- 

* fwer to that Summons, wherein the Earl of 
4 Warwick invited the Ships to come in upon that 
4 very Ground, that the King and Parliament were 
4 in Treaty for Peace, we can take to intend no 
4 lefs than a plain Difavower of this Treaty, and a 
4 Difclaimer of whatever (hall be concluded there- 
4 upon ; and, coming from the Prince and his 
4 Council, confider him as Heir Apparent, it ferves 

* at leaft to acquit himfelf and Pofterity from being 

* concluded by what his Father in fuch Cafe (hall 
4 content unto, to the Prejudice of the Crown ; 

* and, confider him as having, by his unlimited 
4 Commiflion as Generaliffimo, the higheft Power 
4 of the Kingdom which the King could devife 

* to give ; and fo he and his Council, while the 
4 King is in Durance, being the next vifible Head 

* of the King's Party ; and having the higheft Truft 

* in relation to the Intercft of the King, his Crown, 
4 and Party ; it is alfo, on the King's and their 
4 Behalf, the moft authentic Declaration of their 
4 Senfe of the Treaty, which could well be ex- 
4 pe&ed in the Cafe, while the King and his Coun- 
4 cil here, being fuppofed under Force as to all 

* Things elfe, cannot be fuppofed free in that Point 
4 to declare his real Judgment ; and" fo it may fervc 
4 in Behalf of the King, his Heirs, and whole 
4 Party, as a Proteftation againft any Conclufiort 
4 by this Treaty, or whatever (hall therein b 
4 drawn from him to his own or their Prejudice. 

N 2 " 4 And 

(}ln eur S**ente<rnth Volume, p. 497. 





The Parliamentary HISTORY 

c And indeed the King himfelf, in divers of hi? 
Papers that have come from him to you in refa- 

* t ' on to tn ' s Treaty, has, in fuch foft Language 

* as might befit the Condition of your Prifoner, in- 

* fmuated the fame Senfe of the Treaty, and his 
' Condition therein, and of the Validity or Repute 

* of any Conclusions thereupon, while his Condition 

* fhoald remain the fame, and cot more free. And 
' thefe feveral Declarations and Infmuations hereof 

* being fen.t, thofe from the King, immediately 

* to yourfelves ; that from the Prince, his General, 
4 to your Admiral, a&d from him to your own 
' Hands j and both being fent you during the Trea- 
c ty, before any Conclufton upon it, will remain up- 

* on Record before you perpetual Witnefles againft 
e the Validity thereof, of *any Obligingnefs as to 

* them. Nor is it his or their Senfe alone, or 

* .without Grounds to gain Belief, but, (confidering 
' he is but to fmall a Step removed from the Caftle, 

* vvheie he was your abfolute Prifoner, and ftill 
' confined within the Town or Ifland, which is 
6 your Garrifon ; and fo remaining under the Power 

* of your Guards, and even in that Condition be- 

* ing but upon his Parole) we doubt the fame Senfe 

* and Judgment thereupon will be aptly made and 
' received, by intelligent Spectators both of this 
' and Neighbour Nations, and by Ages to come j 
' and that the Degree of Enlargement you have af- 
forded him, with the petty State added, will be 

* underftood but as a Mock-Liberty and Counter- 

* feit of State, intended only to fet him up in fome 

* colourable Pofture and Equipage to be the more 

* handfomely treated with ; but not as a fetting him 
' free from your Force, or leaving him free in 

* what he grants, fo as to render it obliging when 
' granted : And though, as to the Reality of the 

* Cafe, there might be Freedom enough to make 
< his Conceffions in Honefty obliging, or his Ab- 

* folution therefrom at leaft difpu table, yet he, and 
' the Prince in his Behalf having, as is before ex- 
4 preffed, in the beft Way they could, declared to 

* you beforehand their Senfe to the contrary, 



of E N G L A N D. 197 

* as to his and their Part, his Condition in the An. 24 Car. I. 

* Treaty {landing as it was ; if you, after fuch fair . _ l64 *' ^ 

* and timely Warning, would needs yet proceed November. 

* in Treaty, without Alteration of his Condition 

* or th Terms of it, and come to Conclufions 
' therein to bind up yourfelves, who will not fay 

* he and his Party had Reafon fo far to comply 

* with your Proceeding upon it ; and yet account 
' that, as to any obliging on their Part (whether 

* he were really under Durefs or not, yet) their 

* timely Precaution to you concerning their con- 

* trary Senfe of it, was a fufficient Acquital of 

* them, not 'only from being bound by any Agree- 

* ment upon it, but from any Imputation of deceit- 

* ful dealing with you, tho' they obferve not what 

* fhall be fo agreed upon ; fince, after fuch Pre- 

* caution from them, it was your own Fault, and 

* at your own Peril, if you proceed with them up- 

* on fo rotten a Foundation ; fo ss if you be co- 
' zened, you cozen yourfelves, and cannot blame 
' them or any body elfe for it. 

' And truly this Confideration, as (when we firft 
c took Notice of thofe PafTages in that Declaration 
' from the Prince, and the King's Papers) it did 
' more awaken us to confider your Hazards in this 
' Treaty than before ; fo it ferves moft clearly to 

* fet forth the miferable Straits and Snares you are 
' thereby intangled in : To look no further into Par- 
e ticulars, that great and dangerous Evil, of old fo 

* much declined and abhorred by you and our Bre- 
4 thren of Scotland, and more lately fo much ftrug- 

* gled againft by yourfelves in the previous Debates 

* concerning this Treaty, viz. the King's Return 
' to London, and to his Parliament and Throne 
' again, without Satisfaction and Security before 

* given, is thus at lait like to come upon you ; and 
' that upon worfe Terms, if you proceed in this 
' Treaty to conclude yourfelves and re-admit him, 

* than if you had let him come without any fore- 

* going Agreement at all ; for had you let him 

* come fo, both yourfelves and he beln^, ire;, if then 

N 3 4 he 



198 We Parliamentary HISTORY 

c he had granted any thing of Satisfaction or Secu- 
4 rity, all Men would have accounted him bound 

* by it, and the Conceflion valid ; r if he had 

* denied you neceflary Things in that Kind, your 

* further Proceeding in other Ways to fecure your- 
' felves and the Kingdom as;ainft him, would have 
' been thought more necefTary, juft, and clear : 

* And though, being at Liberty, he had perfonally 
e headed his Party in the City and elfewhere, with 

* greater Advantages than ever, to aflert once more 

* his old Quarrel in a new War, yet you h'ad known 
' the worft on't, viz. to fight it over again only fo 

* much the fooner ; but in the Way you are now 
' engaged in, the King has the Advantage to yield 
' to any thing at laft which he cannot get A you to 

* abate; and yet when, having granted all, he gets, 
6 upon your own Terms, to his beloved Seat and 

* Throne again, behold he is free, as if he had 
' granted nothing, to take the beft Advantage 

* againft you whrn he fees his Time ; and mean 

* while may reft fecure in a good Condition and 
' wait his Advantage, having gof your Hands 

* bound ; till he, rinding it, fhall ftrike the firft 

* Stroke again, which 'tis like he will rhake a fure 
' one, if he can, to difable you from a Return. 

We proceed to the next Confideration, viz. 
How eafy it is for a Prince, after fuch Accom- 

* modation, admitting him either not bound, or 

* not confcientious of his Bonds, or having Occa- 

* lions or Pretexts for a Breach, to find or work 

* out Advantages, whereby to overthrow all he has 

* granted to the Public Interefts ; and, in the Ruin 

* of thofe that engaged againft him for it, to fet up 
' his own above all ; which, for Brevity, we fhall 
' not fo much confider generally 'in the common 
' Advantages which Princes in fuch Cafe ufually 

* have, as particularly in thofe which this King 

* clearly has, or is like to have, in this of yours. 

4 The King comes in with the Reputation, 
f among the People, of having long gracioufly 

* fought Peace, although indeed ever fmce he found 

* you 



of ENGLAND. 19^ 

* you in Condition to oppofe his Force, it was his An - 2 4 Car. ! 
c Intereft and his beft Play ; and especially fmce , l6 * 8 ' , 

* you had beaten his Force, it was his neceflary and November, 

* only Play. He comes with the Reputation of 
' having long fought it by a Perfonal Treaty, which 

* at laft has proved, as he prophefied, the only ef- 
' fedlual Means ; and fo you having fo long denied 

* that, and only plied him with peremptory Propo- 
' fitions, and yet at laft granting it, are, in that 

* Self-Condemnation, rendered by his Friends, as 
' having deceitfully or unneceflarily continued Bur- 
' thens, and refufed Peace fo long, in refufing that 
' the King's Way, in which you might as well 
1 have had it fooner as now j altho' the Truth is, 
' neither the Treaty, nor the Perfonality of it, have 
' advanced the Bufmefs one Jot ; fmce the King 
' grants now the fame Things, and in the fain* 
' Terms, which he has fo oft in particular denied, 

* yea, protefted and fworn he would not ; and the 

* Alteration is far enough from Conviction by 
' Treaty, as is before demonft rated, and vifibly 
' from a greater Neceflity or Advantage found now 

* to induce the yielding than formerly. He comes 
' alfo with the Reputation of having granted, for 

* Peace Sake, all that you, as unwilling to Peace, 

* have rigidly ftood upon ; although, when it is 

* fumm'd up, it will appear of very little advan- 

* tage or Security to Public Intereft ; and, by a 

* Trick or Referve that he has, of none at all, as 

* before is {hewed : However, with the People, 
' he carries thefe and the like Points of Reputation 
' before him, and wants not Trumpets every where 
' to blaze them fufficiently to his Renown, and 
' your own Reproach. Under fuch Banners of 
' Love and Honour, he comes in the only true Fa- 

* ther of his People, you being proved their cruel 

* Fofter-Fathers ; he the Repairer of their Breaches 
c which you had made ; he the Reftorer of their be- 
' loved Peace, Eafe, and Freedoms, which you, as 

* his Creatures render it, had ravifhed or cheated 
them of thus lanj ; he the Reftorer of their Trad^ 

N 4 ancj 



200 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

24 Car. i. anc } Plenty too, which you had thus long ob* 
' ftru&ed ; he, as a Conqueror in Sufferings and, 

* Patience, a Denver of himfelf for the Good of 
* his People, and what not that is glorious and en- 

* dearing. And thus would the People be lulled, 
' and indeed cheated, into a Security, as to any 

* further Apprehenfions of Evil from him ; yea, 
' poflefled with Acknowledgements and Expec-ta- 
' tions of all their Good from him, and their Jea- 

* loufies awakened a:ainft you and your Adhe- 
' rents only. And yet, to heighten the fame 
' more into perfect Hatred, you (as wife, yea as 
' honeft Men, for their Safety and Intereft, though 

* they fee it not) muft continue an Army and Gar- 

* rifon ftill ; and that not the lefs, but much more 

* for his coming in again, than if you had taken 

* another Gourf^utterly to {hut him out, as we {hall 
c - {hew anon ; an.J fo you will be neceflitated, not- 
' withftanding -the Accommodation, to continue 

* Taxes and Impofitions for Maintenance of that 

* Force, to the Burden and Grievance of the People, 
' and the greater Increafe of their Difcontents and 

* Hate towards you : For if after this Accommoda- 

* tion, to eafe and fatisfy them,you {hall ever difband 
f your Forces, while the King is at his Liberty, and 

* in his Throne again, you give him his End or 

* wifhed Opportunity, in laying yourfelves, your 
? Adherents, and the Public Intereft all level a- 
6 gain with him and his, as if you had never pre- 
' vailed, nor had any Advantage over them ; and 
' fo, for all your Satisfaction and Security, you 
' are at the King's Courtefy ftill ; and if he will 
' break, you are but where you were at firft, arid 
' the public Intereft nothing advantaged or fecured 

* by ought obtained or done in the War ; but the 
' King in the fame, or much fairer Poifibility to 
4 revive the old Quarrel, renew his Force with 
' greater Advantage, and put you to fight it over 
4 again, or rather may carry it without Fighting ; 

* fmce, after fo much Blood, and Coft, and Trouble 
f for nothing, it is not like you will find a compe- 

* ' tent 



*f ENGLAND. 201 

9 tent Party for the oppofuig of him ready to en- An - *4 Car 
* gage again on the fame Terms ; and if he gain t ' V 
* any Strength to appear for him, which who can ftg vender, 
doubt when your Forces are difbandeu, confider- 
what a numerous Party he has engaged to it 
reft and Neceiiicy ; fome inclined to it by 
s and ; emper, others in Humour and 
, a gain ft the prefent Government ; the 
: uy 01 the People (wearied with the former 
w/.ereof 'they have found fo great Mifery, 
itcle Fruit) if they fee a Strength on his 
i'art t ' :atn:n ; j; a new War, and none ready on 
your I' Tt to hai .nee ic, which might hold them 
at le.it in NT itri'uy, will furtly be more apt 
to join unaninv ufly with him, or let him have 
\vh-:L e v- i 1, taat there may be no War, than 
join with you to maintain another War, to fo 
much Prejudice and fo ILtle Purpole as they have 
found th'- former. Aiu! if, to appeafe the King 
and his enraged Party, a Sacrifice of thofe thi.t 
oppofed him in the former will ferve the Turn, 
the People, it is like, will be fo far from flick- 
ing at that, as it is tome Queftion to whom it 
would be more acceptable, the King or them ; 
the People, by the Cavaliers clamorous and cun- 
ning Suggeftions, and the Advantages you have 
given thereto, through the unfettled, endlefs, and 
rruitlefs Ways of Trouble you have held them 
in, being already pretty well poflefled, and by 
that Time like to be further perfuaded againft 
you, as if in all this War you had merely cozen- 
ed them ; fo as you are like to have their Hate no 
lefs, as for abufmg ther% than the King's for 
oppofmg him. 

4 If to fecure that little Advantage to Public In- 
tereft, which in the prefent Way you will have 
gained, or rather to prevent a total Lofs of all 
thereupon, you continue a furKcient Strength, and 
therewith Taxes and Impofitions to maintain it ; 
thefe, as they are always grievous to the People, 
.* fo they will, after the Peace fuppofed to be fet- 

< tied, 



2o2 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

AM. 14 Car. I. tied, be fo much the more difcontenting, by how 
1648. ( mucn they may be then deemed unneceflary ; for 

* tne King having in the Terms of Accommoda- 

* tion, granted what yourfelves did afk ; and there- 
4 in fuch fuppofed Security, as that you need not 

* fear new Troubles, though few will confider 
' wherein that little Security does lye ; or at ieaft 
' (by his yielding as it were for Peace Sake, to all 
c your Demands) having given, in the People's 

* Apprehenfions, fuch Aflurances of his Love to 
1 Peace, as that no Danger of new War or Trouble 

* feems to be feared from him ; in this Cafe the 

* Continuance of Forces and Taxes will furely be 

* thought no further needful for any public End ; 

* for, in common Judgment, if War made Sol- 

* diers needful, then furely Peace muft render them 
4 needlefs ; and therefore it will be aptly thought, 

* if yet Soldiers be kept up, and Taxes continued, 
4 it is furely either for the Gain, or Advantage, or 
c fome private Defign of thofe that continue them ; 
4 and upon thefe Grounds, with Unwillingnefs and 

* Backwardnefs to pay Taxes, and Difcontents at 
4 the Burden of them, there muft naturally grow 
< up Jealoufies and Heart-burnings againft thofe 

* that require them. Thefe to foment and inflame 
* to the Height, and thereby to fweeten and en- 

* dear the King with the People, will be his and the 

* Cavaliers fureft Play ; and otherwife to fit that 

* while, if they have but the Patience, as ftill as 

* Lambs. How colourable and plaufible will it 
4 be for them to fuggeft, and how apt for the 
-People to receive, That the King is no way to 

* be blamed for any of thofe Burdens ; he, good 

* Man, has yielded to any Thing, and done what 

* he could, that there might be no Need of them*- 
* and now he gives no Confent to them ; but the 
4 Parliament does them without him, and have 

* bound up and excluded him from his wonted Ne- 
*, gative Voice therein, otherwifc he would refufe 

* and hinder them ; but being not in Power to 

* help the People, he can only pity them in thefe 

4 Things ; 



$f E N G L A N D. 203 

Things ; and now they may fee what they gain An - 2 4 Car. l. 

* by their Parliaments, or how much it is to their * 6 * 8 ' 

4 common Prejudice, as well as the King's, to have November 

the King in any Particular excluded from his 
4 Negative Voice, and the Parliament free to pro- 
4 ceed in ought without him. And thus eafily 

* may the People, from their common Unwilling- 

* nefs to part with Money, although for their real 

* Safety, be at once inflamed into a Refufal and Op- 

* pofition therein ; and deluded into a Refentment 

* of that which is the King's Intereft, as if it were 
4 their own, and fo engaged with and for him and 

* his Party, as having one common Caufe with 

* themfelves. And if thus they be once heightened 
' but into a refolved with-holding of Payments for 

* the Maintenance of that neceflary Strength you 
4 keep for the common Safety and Peace, you muft 

* then either give the King his End and Advan- 

* tage, as is before exprefled, in diflfolving your 
' Forces, or elfe ufe extraordinary Ways of Power 
' and Rigour towards the People, to inforce fuch 
' neceflary Payments ; this will ftill enrage them 
' higher againft you, and ferve to endear and en- 
' gage them more to the King and his Intereft, 
' colourably in Point of their Liberties then, as 
' well as their Eafe before ; until at laft the People, 
' for both, being raifed againft you, and therein 
' joining with, and being headed by, the King 

* and his Party, whofe Intereft fo far feems one 

* with theirs, you, unlefs you will give up all, 
f muft come to make a War againft the poor de- 
4 ceived People for that which is really their own 

* Caufe : And the King by the People, as it were 

* for their proper Liberties and Intereft, may make 

* War againft you, to the creeling of his own, and 
4 the Overthrow of the common Intereft, both 
' yours and theirs. For Solution of which feem- 
' ing Riddle, -much needs not to be faid, fince what 
' you j contend for is their general, fundamental, 
' and perpetunl Liberties ; for the Prefei vation 

* whereof you will be forced to prefs upon them 

* in particular Matters, againft their prefent Eafe 

' and 



204 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. c anc j f ree! j orns . an j the People being ordinarily 

t ' * ' _, more affected with the latter, as more immediate 

November. ' a d ftnfible, and lefs with the former, which are 

' more remote and to them lefs imeliigible, the 

' King clofing with them under Prettr.ce of the 

'latter, which they can feel, may eafily engage 

' them to the Prejudice of the former, which they 

' hardly difcern. 

' By what we have here faid, it may, by the 
' way, appear how much it is for the King's In- 
4 tereft and Advantage, fmce he cannot carry all 
' by Force or War, to make a Peace on any 
' Terms, though in Words never fo much to the 

* Diminution of his Power, if thereby he ,can but 
' fecure himfelf, and get into his Seat again ; and 
' confequently we may the better guefs how far 
' Conveifion, or Conviction, hath Place in his pre- 
' fent yielding to Things he hath fo often faid and 
' fworn he never would ; and in his granting now, 

* at the Motion of his Englijh Parliament, what 
' he hath fo often denied at the preffing Inftance of 

* both Kingdoms : For having- fufficient Proof of 

* your prefent Forces, that they will neither be 
' drawn to ferve his Turn themfelves, nor eafily 
e fuffer others that would j and having found, in 

* the laft Summer's Defign, that it would not per- 

* fc&ly take with the Body of the People, to cry 
' down your Army, tho* with decrying of Taxes 

* to boot, while no feeming Peace was fettled ; no, 

* though with the Cry for their Difbandirig, they 
' cried up Peace and a Treaty in order to it : He 
' therefore now fees he muft clap up a Peace on 
' what Terms foever ; and, that done, his Way is 

* clear. The Parliament then may eafily and 
' foon be put to it, to denude themfelves of their 
f Strength in a Difbanding, and fo fet him even 
6 with themfelves again ; or elfe, if they refufe, 

* the People may be wrought to undo all for him, 
' whatever he hath granted., without his appearing 
' to make any Breach for his own Intereft. And 
' as, upon this fingle Ground, many Nations be- 

* fore us 3 by like Accommodations with 'their 

5 * beaten 



of. E N G L A N D. 205 

* beaten Tyrants, have, from the faireft Attempts An. 24 Car. I. 

* and Hopes of Liberty, fallen to an utter Lois of ^__ ^__^ 

* it, yea, to an abfolute Bondage, and been made November. 
' the Inftruments thereof themfelves ; fo by this 

* one Confederation, though there were no more, 

* it may appear how eafy it is for any Prince, and 

* particularly for ours, after fuch an Accorrfmo- 

* dation made, and himfelf reftored, to find or 

* work out Advantages, whereby to overthrow 

* what he hath granted, raife his own Intereft 

* higher, and deprefs the Public lower than ever 
4 before : And yet we have touched but one of 
c thofe many Advantages that, in fuch Cafe, lie 

* clear before him. We might reflect upon that 
' of his numerous Party, engaged by Intereft, Ne- 

* ceffity, and otherwife, to ferve him fo long as 
4 he remains in a PoiUbility to head them ; to-- 

* wards whom Proceedings have been fuch, as have 

* ferved to imbitter and enrage them unto, and 
' yet not difable or difcourage them from, further 
c Attempts againft you ; and towards whom, .by.- 
' his continuing King, you will be the more ne- 
' cefiitated to proceed ft ill upon the fame Strain in 
' both Refpedls. We might mention alfo their 
c great Families and Relations, and their Intereft 
' or Influences within the Kingdom ; and we might 

* enlarge upon the Confederation of the two other 
' Kingdoms he hath to work by, from which we 

* have found fuch powerful Parties ready to ferve 

c his Intereft ; the one to make Prize and Advan- 
c tage of this Kingdom ; the other at leaft to de- 
e liver themfelves from your Yoak, by helping to 

* put his upon your and our Necks : All which, 
' if they were to be feared, when he hath been in 

* no Capacity to head them, as in the laft Sum- 
c mer's War, then much more when he flull fo be ; 
' and though they be much to be feared in relation 
' to his Heading of them, while he, by his fup- 

* pofed Impunity, whatever he does, huth Encou- 

* ragement to make all polTible Trial of them ; and 
c they hope, that if ever he prevail, he may make 
*> ther$ Amends, or procure their Impunity at laft ; 



206 The Parliamentary H r s f o fc v 

An. 24 Car. I. yet, that being once confuted by an Example oi 
--*- 4 *'- / ' Juftice upon him for fuch Attempts, they would 

* not tnen ^ c ' * n divi" 6 Confiderations, at all to 
4 be feared, or, in prudential Confiderations, not 

* fo much, in relation to his Pofterity's Heading of 
' them. 

' Befides thefe, we cannot but confider much 
' more the vaft Poflibilities, after his Reftitution, 

* to 1 make Parties, Factions, and Divifions amongft 
' yourfelves, and your now Adherents ; and to fet 
4 one againft another, to make one betray another, 

* fo by one to ruin another ; and, by making Ufeof 
' all I rite reft s, to fet up his own above all. Have 
'not you found him at this Play all along ? And 
4 do not all Men acknowledge him moft exquifite 

* at it ? If he has had the Faculty to avail much 
' in this Kind when at a Diftance from you, will 
c he not much more when fo near you, amongft 
c you, in your Boibms and Councils ? 

c For Divifions, we fpeak it with Depth of Sad- 

* nefs, he needs not come to make any amongft 

* you, but to ufc them ; they abound v.'ofully al- 

* ready ; and tor his Opportunities of Advantage 

* by them, they are great beyond Conception. 

c Firji) From the Jealoufies which each Party 

* i$ apt to have of the others {lengthening them- 

* felves, to the Prejudice of the other, by Con- 

* jundtion with him and his ; and which he and his 

* Creatures have a Faculty to feed in each of them, 
.* it is more than probable that each Party will be 

* apt to Itnve which (hall moft and firft comply 

* with him : Have not you and we feen fad Expe- 

* riences of this already ? Give us Leave to be more 

* affectionately fenfible of this, as having had fome 
1 Experience of Temptations towards it amongft 

* ourfelves : We fay Temptations towards it from 

* the King and his Party, as ftrong and fubtile as 

* are imaginable, though we blefs God, by whom 
' we were preferred in our Integrity, and not gi- 

* ven up to, but delivered from, fuch wretched A- 
' poftacy. And we can truly fay, That although, 

* (through the Example of others, partly ncc.-cfli.ta~ 

ting 



c/ ENGLAND. 207 

* ting us for the prefent Prevention of that Mifchief An. 14. c>r. I. 

* to the Public they were running into in that Kind, 

* as we apprehended) we wera drawn into fome 

* negative Compliances, tending to Moderation, 

* which we thought to be, and in its Place is, a real 
4 Good ', yet firft, we never fought, but were fought 

* unto ' y and notwithftanding all Overtures and 
' Temptations, we did abhor the Thought of, and 
' ftill profefledly refufed any thing of Conjunc- 

* tion with him or his, in relation to the Affairs of 
4 that Time, or ought of private Contract or Truft 
' with them. 

c Secondly^ What we declared of Moderation was 

* but hypothetical, with careful Caution and a 
4 Saving for the Public Intereft according to out 

* then Underftanding of it. And, 

4 Thirdly^ We aimed not at the (lengthening 
1 of ourfelves thereby, to the Ruin of arty Perfons 
4 or Party oppofed, nor did drive at any fuch End ; 
4 but meerly to prevent any fuch from ftrengthen- 

* ing themfelves in that Kind, as we feared, to th 
' Prejudice of the Public ; as may appear by the 
4 Tenour of the City's Engagement, with the Con- 

* comitants and Confequcnts thereof, and by our 
4 Carriage both in relation thereto, and fince that 

* Danger was over: And yet, however, in that De- 

* gree of Compliance admitted in that Kind, we 

* find Matter of Acknowledgement before the 

* Lord, concerning our Error, Frailty, Unbelief, 
4 and carnal Councils therein, and we blefs him 

* that prcferved us from worfe : Yet, on the other 

* Side, give us Leave to fear, (and we heartily 
c wifh, as to any honeft Soul, that it may be a 
4 caufelefs and miftaken Fear) that from fuch pri- 

* vate Jealoufies, and the Animoflties or Hate of 
4 one Party againft another, who once feemed to 
4 be engaged in one common Caufe agairirt a com- 

* mon Enemy, there have been on the Part of o- 
4 thers evil Compliances, negative and pofitivc ; 
4 yea, we doubt, Contracts and Conjunctions too, 
4 by fome fought, by other.-* entertained with him 
4 and his Party, (even while an acknowledged E- 

4 ncmy, 



be Parliamentary H f s T o R r 

n en }y) to the Neglect or Difpending of the cc-.r/- 

* mon Public Intereft, meerJy for the Upholding or 
November. ' Strengthening of their own, and the Ruin of the. 

' Party particularly oppofed. 

* We cannot hut be fenfible of this, becaufe we 
c have felt the Efre& of it in the Lofs of many of 

* our dear innocent Friends Lives, with the 

* Hazard of our own, in the laft Summer's War : 
c For even from this Root, as we have more than 
c conje&ural Grounds to underfrand, the Revolt 
' in Wales had its Rife and Growth ; the Scots In-* 

* vafion had its Foundation and Invitation ; the- 
Revolt of the Ships ; the Rebellion in Kent, Ef~ 
< fex i &c. and the feveral Tumults, Rifings, and 

* Disturbances in and about London, and the 
' Southern Parts, had their Inftigation and Encou- 

* ragement ; and, from the fame, this mifer^Wc 

e enfnaring Treaty, its Conception and Birth : ' 

* And if from the Divifions we have, fuch deftruc- 

* tive Compliances and Conjunctions have been 

* entertained with, and fuch Advantages given to, 

* him and his Party, while profefled and acknow- 

* ledged Enemies ; what worfe may we not expecl 

* of that Kind, when, by a Peace made, they fhall 

* have the Reputation of Friends to give Counte- 
4 nance and Confidence thereunto ? 

' To conclude this Point, concerning hi:; Ad- 
f vantages after Accommodation and Reftitution, 
' to overthrow or prejudice the Public Intereft : 

* We willconfefs our greateft Fears are, from the 
' Confideration of the A& for this Parliament's 
' unlimited Continuance ; wherein, befides Divi- 
' fions amongft thofe that are, or profefs to be 
' for the Public, if he fhaJl ever be able, by'parth- 
' cular Succefiions of new Burgeffes, according to 

* the prefent Conftitution, or any other Way*' to 
4 form a prevailing or balancing Party for his Inte- 
c reft in the Houfe of Commons^ which even there 
' he feems to have bid fair for already, (for as to 
' the Lords, we will move no Queflion) we may 

* then juftly yield England's Liberties for defunct, 
'when that which , fhould be the Confervative, 

'fhali 



*f ENGLAND. 209 

* fhall be turned indeed the bane; and yet, it be- An. 24. Cr. I. 

4 ing in the Place and Repute of the only Confer- t l648 ' , 

' vative, we (hall, through that A&, be debarred November. 

* from Change of Medicine, or Ufe of other Re- 

* medy; yea, from the renewing or taking frefli 

* Choice of Medicine in the fame Kind, but muft 
4 keep to that old Mafs, which fuch Putrefaction 
4 will have rendered deadly, and will probably 
4 vitiate all particular Additions of frefh Ingredients 

* that fhall be made, while the old Leaven fhall 
4 remain predominant. 

4 Neither can we fee any poffible Help in the 

* Cafe after his Reftitution, though you fhould 

* be willing to lay down your Power: For, indeed, 

* to fet a Period to this Parliament, and not there- 
4 with provide for a certain Succeflion of Parlia- 
4 ments, and the Certainty of their Sitting alfo, 
4 without Dependence on the King's Will, were 

* to leave the Kingdom without Aflurance of any 

* Remedy ; or, at leaft, of Power therein to help 
' at all, and fo in like Condition as before this 

* Parliament : And to make Provifion for fuch a 

* Succeflion, and Certainty of Sitting of future 
4 Parliaments, without like Provifion for a more 

* due Conftitution, by more equal Elections ; freed 
4 from fuch Dependence on Prerogative Grants, 
4 or from being fo fubjecl: to Prerogative Com- 
4 mands, as now by the Number and Nature of 
4 Burgefs-fhips theyftand, were to render the Sue- 

* ceflion lefs hopeful or fafe, or at leaft fubjecl: to 
4 no lefs Corruption in the fame Kind, than the 

* Conftitution of the prefent is ; and you having 
4 not in this Treaty propounded any Provifion for, 
4 any of thefe Things, which we dare boldly af- 
4 firm are of the higheft Concernment to the Vin- 
4 dication and Prefervation of Public Intereft in the 
4 very Fundamentals of it ; if you go on to make 

* a Peace upon fuch Terms, as if this Parliament 
4 were to continue for ever, and fet the reft of all 
4 our Hopes upon that Bafis, we may juftly pre- 
4 fume, that, when a Peace is made, and the King 
4 icftored, if afterwards you would come to Con- 

VOL. XVIII. O 4 fiderations 



2 1 o *fhe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 14 Car. I. < federations of laying down your Power, and ma- 

. _ 1 ^.' j ' king fuch Provisions for Succeflion, as is before 

November. * exprefied ; the King, whofe Confent you ftill 

' feem to make neceflary to fuch Things, tho' 

* it is like he would readily confent to be rid of 

* this Parliament, fo as to have no more but at 

* his Call for their Meeting, and his Will for their 
' Continuance ; or perhaps fo as to have no better 

* Provifion for the one, or larger for the other,* 

* than the triennial Bill j yet, as to full Certainty 
' in the one, or fufficient Enlargement in the o- 
' ther, without relation to his Will ; and much 

* lefs as to the taking away of Burgefs-fhips de- 

* pendent on his Grant, and fubjecl to his and 

* his great Men's Command; and the reducing of 
c Elections to full Equality and Freedom : We fay, 

* on fuch Terms we may well prefume, from the 

* Reafon and Nature of the King's Intereft, he will 
' not willingly, when after Peace made he needs 
' not, give up his Hopes of or againft this Parlia- 

* ment ; but rather than he will make, or bring 
' upon himfelf and Pofterity, fuch an Entail of Par- 

* liaments as he can never hope to avoid, and thofe 

* to be fo independent on his Will for their Meeting 

* or Sitting as he can never hope to avoid, and 
' conftituted fo equally according to the Intereft of 

* the People, as he can never hope, or cannot de- 
' fign how, to pack to his own, he will prefer 
and ftand to his fairer Hopes of making his Party 
' good with this Parliament one Way or other, viz, 
c either in and by it, by making a Party in it as 

* before expreffed, or elfe againft it, by making 

* Ufe of Difcontents and Impatience in the People 
e towards it, and of Divifions within itfelf, at laft 

* to deftroy and overthrow it; and fo to deliver his 

* Crown, once for all, from Wardfoip, as he 
6 counts it, to Parliamentary Power ; which, by 

* the other Conditions might have been perpetual : 

* And if, either in the one Kind or the other, he 
prevail upon this Parliament, his Monarchy and 
6 our Slavery will be abfolute, and probably for 
e ever ; in the one, by feeming Authority of Parlia- 

* incut 



^ENGLAND. 2 n 

* ment made immortally the fame j in the other, by An. 24 Car. r 
4 the utter Extinaion of it. v l6 ^ 

* But to proceed from Probabilities of Danger, November. 

* to mew the certain Infecurity and perpetual Pre- 
4 judice to Public Intereft, that an Accommodation 

* with him, and Reftitution of him, in the prefent 

* Cafe does imply : Suppofe the beft Conftitutions 

* and ftri&eft Laws imaginable in any State, yet 
f their infufficiency and Impotency, as to the pre . 
4 ferving of Public Intereft, without a Power to 
4 punim thofe that violate it and them ; or where 

* Perfons in Power to prejudice the fame, efpecial- 

* ly if in fixt and lafting Power, fhall {land privi- ' 
4 leged from being punifliable, whatever they do, 

* is obvious to each confidering Man ; the Power 
4 of Punifhment, and the having of it in the moft 

* trufty Hands, and no particular Perfons to be ex- 
c empt from their Juftice, being that effential Part 
4 of public Intereft, which is the Fence and Guard 

* of all the reft in the depraved State of Mankind : 

* Now, in our prefent Cafe, after fo many, fo great 
4 and lafting Violations thereof, committed by the 

* King, and by his Procurement ; and after his fo 
' long and obftinate Maintenance thereof, and Per- 
4 fiftence therein, and fo many Refufals of that 
4 poor Satisfaction and Security you now defire, 

* in fo much as you once refolved againft any 
' more Addrefles ; we fay, after all this for you, 

* the Supreme Judicatory of the Kingdom, when 
4 he is, through the juft Hand of God, in your 

* Power to do Juftice upon, yet ftill to decline 

* that Way ; and, inftead thereof, to feek again to 
4 him your Prifoner in the way of Treaty, to re- 

* ceive what Satisfaction and Security you can get 

* as Conceffions from him ; and thereupon, having 
4 only fome few Inftruments fubmitted to Juftice, 

* and that by his Conceffion too, to re- admit him- 

* felf to the Throne with Safety, Freedom, andHo- 

* nour ; what can this be underrtood to (peak lef^ 

* that that, as himfelf and his Party for him have 
4 ftill exprefly aflumed, and as the Pretence and 

* Ways of your Proceedings towards him hereto- 

O 2 fore 



2 1 2 The Parliamentary H i s T 6 R V 

An. 24. Car. I. fore have too much implied, he is indeed above' 

l6 ^ 8 - e any human Juftice, and not accountable to, of 

November ' punifhable by any Power on Earth, whatever he 

' does ; And fo, befides the Bar to any prefent 

* Proceeding of Juftice againft himfelf, whofe one 
' Example in that Kind made, and not afterwards 

* made ineffectual again, as others of that Kind 

* have been, by the Flattery or Degeneration of 
6 fucceeding Ages, would be of more Terror and 
' Avail than the Execution of his whole Party ; 
' yea, than all the Satisfaction and Security, ver- 

* bal or literal, than you can obtain or imagine^ 

* without it : You would alfo, by fuch Exemptiori 

* of him, and in fuch a Cafe, proclaim the like 
' perpetual Exemption to him and his Pofterity, 
4 whatever they (hall do, or in whatever Cafe, 

* fince none can be imagined more pregnant or 
' ripe for Juftice than this already is ; and would 
' therein give the moft authentic Teftimony and 
c Seal that ever was, to all thefe deftrudlive Court 

* Maxims concerning the abfolute Impunity of 
' Kings, their Accountablenefs to none on Earth, 

* and that they cannot err, do Wrong, &c. which 

* Principles, in the Senfe to which they are ap- 

* plied, as they were begot by the blafphemous 
1 Arrogancy of Tyrants upon fervile Parafites, and 
' foftered only by flavifti or ignorant People, and 
' remain incur Law-Books as Heir- Looms only of 

* the Conqueft ; fo they ferve for nothing but to 

* eftablifh that which begot them, Tyranny ; and to 

* give Kings, (who, fo far as they claim otherwife 

* than by Conqueft, are but Minifters intruded for 

* Righteoufnefs and Peace) the higheft Privilege, 
' Encouragement, and Invitation to do Wrong 

* and make War, even upon their own People, 

* as their corrupt Wills or Lufts fhall prompt 

* them. If therefore our Kings claim by Right 
' of Conqueft, God hath given you the fame a- 

* gainft them ; and more righteous, by how much 

* that, on their Parts, was extended to a forcible 

* Dominion over the People, which originally or 

* naturally they had not 5 and ours but to a Deli- 



of E NG L AN D. 213 

' verance from that Bondage, into that State of' An. 24 Car. j. 
c Right and Freedom which was naturally and mo- J 4 6 8. 

4 rally due to us before : If they claim from im- ^ ' 
1 . T-V T-vr it i\- November. 

* mediate Divine Defignation, let them mew it : 

' It from neither, but as by Confent intruded by 
' and for the People, l$t them then embrace and 
' partake the Conditions of fuch ; and not, as if 
' the whole People were made only for them, and 
' to ferve their Lufts ; or had, if not their Being, 
' yet, all their Civil Endowments by and from 

* them. But to return to our Purpofe : 

6 If you, by fuch Proceedings as you are about 

* towards the King in the prefent Cafe, (hall con- 
< firm and harden him and his Pofterity in their 

* aflumed Privileges of Impunity, &c. whatever is 
4 or fhall be done by them, what new Agreement, 
e or other Bond of Man's framing, can you fup- 

* pofe to hold them, and efpecially himfelf that has 
broke the ftrongcft of that Kind already ; and we 
appeal to your Conferences upon the Reafons be-' 

* fore given, what inward Change you find in him, 
' to be trufted, but that he and they, upon the fame 

* Confidence of Impunity to themfelves, whatever' 
' they do, or however they fucceed, will ftill be 
' ready to take all Advantages and try all Means, 
' fo long as they can find any Inftruments that will 

. ' ferve them, to fet up their own Intereft, to the 

* Prejudice of the Public, as heretofore; and efpe- 
c cially to avenge or vindicate themfelves and it 
' againft the fuppofed Wrong of enforced Concef- 

* fions ? 

' And why fhall we not think they will find In- 

* ftruments ftill to venture for them, notwithftand- 
4 ing your punifhing of fome in that Kind ; fince, 
' while your own Proceedings admit themfelves 
' unpunilhable, fuch Inftruments may hope that, 
at the worft of Succefs, they'll fave all, or molt 

* of them, as now ; and, themfelves ftill furviving 
4 to renew, the Quarrel, it m?.y well be hoped, that 
1 if ever they prevail, the Inftruments that fhall 
' furvive, and Heirs of the reft, will be repairc;! 

O ? * with 



2 1 4 The Parliamentary HISTORY * 

An. a4 car. I. c with Honour to boot ; fo that the Adventure of 

1648. t ea ch Inftrument in that Kind, being but as of 

** J ~ ' * one amongft a Multitude, where the moft are 

em er * ' fure to efcape, is of fir lefs Hazard than a Sol- 

* diers Venture in a Field Battle ; and the Hazard 
* * tnat is, efpecially to necefiitous or ambitious 

* Men, is abundantly recompenced by thofe Hopes 
' which the certain Impunity, befides probable 
c Advantages, of their Head does give. We are 

* fure that, as to any Inftruments venturing again 
' for you and the Public, the Hazard is infinitely 
' greater j and, in human Conftderations, HO En- 
6 couragement comparable to thofe, which, after 

* all your Propofition-Juftice againft his Inftru- 

* ments, will yet, upon this Ground, remain to 
6 them for any further Engagements in behalf of 
' their great and unpunifhable Mafter, And there - 

* fore, as in all Cafes of like Rebellions or Civil 
' Wars, the Prudence of moft Nations and Ages, 

* as well as the Juftice of the Thing, has led to fix 
' the exemplary Puniihment, firft upon the capital 

* Leader, and upon others as neareft to him, and 

* not.to punifli the Inferiors and exempt the Chief; 
' fo in this your Cafe it is moft clear, that to fix 
c your Juftice firft upon the Head, and thereby let 

* his Succeflbrs fee what themfelves may expeft, if 

* they attempt the like, may hopefully difcourage 

* them from heading any more what Inftruments 

* they might find in the like Quarrel ; and fo is 
4 like to be a real Security, when fuch Inftruments 

* cannot find an Head : But to punifh only Inftru- 
' ments and Jet the Head, by whofe Power, and 
*.in whofe Intereft, all has been done, not only go 

* free, but ftand in perpetual Privilege and Impu- 

* nity to head fuch Inftruments again, as oft as he 
4 can find Opportunity, and get any to ferve him, 
c is a Way fo far from Security, as it leads indeed 
' to endlefs Trouble and Hazard, or the perfect 
" Lofs of all. And befides, in point of Juftice, 

* with what Conference inferior Minifters can be 
4 puniihed, and the Principal fet free, yea, re- 

* ftored 



^ENGLAND. 215 

c ftored to Dignity and Honour, for whofe only An. 24 Car. I. 
' Intereft, in whofe only Quarrel, and by whofe v 
4 Commiffions and Commands, they have a&ed, 

* which they might peihaps conceive to oblige, 
4 or at leaft co excufe them, for our Parts, 

* fince we have ferioufly weighed it, we cannot 

* underftand : We are fure it ieems a moft un- 

* equal and partial Way of Juftice, fuitable to 

* thofe afprefaid corrupt or abufed Court Maxims, 
4 whereon alone it has been grounded ; as, That 
4 the King can do no Wrong, &c. And indeed, 
4 whatever Grounds or Reafons Can be imagined 
4 to exempt Kings from human Juftice, or to ex- 

* cufe them when they wilfully give Commiffions 
4 and Commands unto their inferior Minifters to 
4 do Evil, (which we are fure can be no lefs than 
4 fomething of Divinity, and abfolute Indepen- 
4 dency, as to Men, fuppofed to be in them) the 
4 fame Principles, if admitted and fully weighed, 
4 would equally extend to abfolve and indemnify 
4 thofe Minifters. for what they do in pu.rfu- 
4 ance of fuch Commiffions and Commands ; yea, 
4 and bring thofe under Condemnation too that 
4 {hould forcibly oppofe him or them therein. We 
4 would at leaft fain hear one Principle fufHcient 

* for the one, which would not, by rational De- 
4 du&ion, extend to both the other. And if there 
4 be none fuch, then we befeech you confider, 

* whether your Re-admiffion of the King, in the 
4 prefent Cafe and Manner, without fo much as his 
4 fubjecting to Judgment or Trial, will not be fo 
4 far from Security, as that it will not only ener- 
4 vate the beft Fence of Public Intereft, the Power 
4 of punifliing Violators of it, but, in cenfequence, 
4 fhake the Foundations of all you have done in the 
4 War, and oveiturn or invalidate all you feem to 
4 obtain in the Peace. 

4 Upon this, and the reft of the Confiderations 

4 aforegoing, we crave Leave to believe that an 

4 Accommodation with the King, in the Way and 

4 Terms you are upon, or any at all, as the Cafe 

O 4 s now 



2 1 6 'The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 4 Car.l.c now ft an ds, that {hall imply his Reftitutron, ot 

^ 48 f c {hall not provide for his Subje&ion to Trial and 

November. ' Judgment, would, 

Firft, 4 Not be juft before God or Man, nor 

* hopefully good ; but many Ways evil, and fo not 

* dcfirable by any honeft Heart that well confi- 
' ders it. 

< Secondly, < Would not be fafe, but full of Ha- 
f zard and Danger ; yea, certain Prejudice, Dif- 
' advantage, and Deftrudion, both to the Public 
6 Intereft in Queflion, and to the Perfons tha, have 
* engaged for it, except fuch as, by bafe Apoftacy 
4 from it, and treacherous Services for the King 

* againft it, have, or iha)l have emerited their 
4 Pardons. 

And, thirdly ^ c If in another Way or Cafe it 

* poflibly could be fafe, which we fee not, yet in 

* the prelent Treaty and Condition the King is in, 

* it cannot. 

' Now if any obferve and object, That the 
' Grounds aforegoing, upon which, we conclude 
4 thus, would extend as well againft an Accom- 
c modation with him fince his Perfon came into 
c the Parliament's Power, or at leaft againft any 

* Reftitution of him thereupon, without his firft 
' fubmitting to Judgment, and a Change of Heart 
' and Principles ; and confequently would have 
' ferved as well againft that Accommodation with 
' him, and Reftitution of him, which the Army 
' feemed once to plead for ; we ili^ll confefs it as 
' to the main, and we have only this to fay, 

i/?, c That your whole Pretence and Way of 
e proceeding toward^ him before, and at that Time ; 
' t:ie State you have kept him in ; your particular 
f Engagement to the Kingdom of Scotland for ano- 
' ther Addrefs to him ; and your Preparation to- 
' wards the fame at that Time, had wholly led us 
4 on in the Suppofition of an Accommodation to 
4 be ftill endeavoured with him, and to that Sup- 
4 polition on; >. our then Overtures to you were 
e framed 5 and you hi.d not then, asfince, by your 

* Votes 



of E N G L A N D. 217 

* Votes of No farther Addrefles, and your Rea- An. 24 Car. I. 

4 fons for them, cleared our Judgments from that t .' * ' j 
4 former Mift, and lead us out to the Thoughts of November. 
4 other Ways of Security againft him ; nor had 

* pointed towards the Way, as therc;:p< n you have 
4 done, in taking off his State, and clofe impri- 

* foning his Perfon. 

* And we confefs that, fmce our Thoughts have 

* been thus fet free, and led out that Way, befides 
4 the good Reafons you gave, and what they fur-j 

* ther difcovered or implied, and beficks wh-t other; 
' Pens have enlarged thereupon, the more we our-j 

* felves have considered, the more and further it 

* hath pleafed God to let us fee beyond what we 

* did before : So that your bare retracing of Votes, 
4 or changing your Courfe, without better or any 
' Reafons given, cannot put out the Light which. 
6 your former Votes with Reafon have let in, 

* and God hath given his Seal and Increafe unto. 

2<//y, 4 Your then Councils, and, with them, 

* Our Thr-ughts, being fc fixed upon that Way of 
4 Addrefies to him, we thought it lawful for us to 

* tender to your Confideratjon fome Things to be 
4 provided for therein, which were cf hijheft and 
4 moft fundamental Concernment to the public 
4 Intereft, nd not thought or not touch'd oh in 
4 your former Addrefles or then Preparations j as, 
4 concerning the Succeffion, Conftitution, and 
4 clearing the Power of Parliaments in future, &c. 
4 which accordingly we propounded to be taken in 
4 with moft of your former Proportions ; and what- 

* ever we exprefled exciufively, as our private Opi- 
4 ntons at that Time, yet our whole Overtures be- 

* ing but :us Propofals to you, and not immediately 
4 to the King, it was far from our Intentions, as 
4 it was apparently from our Practice, to prejudge 
4 or preclude your Councils from any further or 
4 better Provifion for the Public Intereft, or in any 
4 furer or better W^ay. 

3^/y, * Since you had fo far engaged in the Way 

* of AJdreiF.s, we had fome Apprchenfions thei), 
' as from the Covenant and other Confiderations, 

* that 



2 1 8 Ybe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 14 Car. I. < that, to acquit yourfelves and Adherents before 

l6 4- 8 ' * God and the World, in relation to the Snare you 

November. ' feemed to be in, 'it did fomething lie upon you to 

* make one Addrefs for all, upon Things concern- 

* ing purely the Public Intereft, and only Eflentials 
' thereunto, without Mixture of any bye Matters ; 
4 from which either you, with Safety to the Public, 
' could poflibly recede, or againft which he might 

* have Colour to boggle, as it were, from Con- 

* fcience or other fpecious Pretences, and not his 

* own Intereft only ; that fo you might, at once make 
' a full and clear Trial whether you could, with and 
1 by his Confent, have fuch Security to the Public 
4 Intereft, as that you might, with the Prefervation 

* and Safety thereof, preferve alfo his Perfon and 

* Honour, as in your Covenant ; or whether he 
4 would refufe that Security to Public Intereft, 

* meerly for the upholding of his own in Oppofi- 

* tion thereto, without other Cavils, Pretexts, or 

* Evafions : And accordingly though, we may 

* truly fay, we never preiled you fo far in point 

* of Addrefs to him, as that you did ever actually 
c make any, at our Inftance, or according to our 

* Overtures j yet, after that he had efcaped from 
' the Army, and quitted any Pretext of Obligation 

* upon it, in relation to their Defire of any fuch 

* Addrefs, you did of yourfelves make fuch an Ad- 
4 drefs in the Tender only of four Bills, concerning 
'* iingly the Public Intereft, and but a fmall Part 

* of it, meerly for neceflary Security to it and your- 

* felves, in order to a Treaty for all the reft ; in 

* which Tender of yours we found clear Satisfac- 
c tion in our Reafons and Confciences, as to our 

* aforefaid fcrupulous Apprehenfions : And anfwer- 

* ably (when you, upon his Refufal, refolved againft 

* any more Addreffes to him, and began to take 
another Courfe with him) we did upon that very 

* * Ground declare our Acquiefcence in your Votes, 
4 and our Refolutions of Adherence to you there- 
4 in, as may appear in the Paper then prefented to 

* you from the Army : And yet when we have 

* faid all this, or whatever might more be faid in 

* our 



of ENGLAND. 219 

'our Excufe, we will, upnn the Grounds, here An. 24 Car. f, 

4 before laid down, which have fince been more t M 

4 clearly made out to us, acknowledge it our Kovcmbo. 
' Weaknefs, our Error, and our Fault, both as to 

* the Matter and Terms we propounded for an 

* Addrefs to him, in refpecl of Deficiency or In- 
4 fufficiency therein ; and a'fo as to our Dcfire of 

* any fuch Addrefs at all, as the Cafe then ftood, in 
4 refpecT: of the Needlefsnefs and Infecurity thereof, 

* and Want of Juftice therein ; although we fee 

* and own the Providence of God, who ordered it 

* for the beft, that you did make fuch a one. 

* Now, if yet any {ball obje& the Covenant, as 

* perpetually obliging to endeavour the Preferva- 
4 tion of the King's Perfon and Authority; and 
4 confequently not allowing any fuch \Vay of Se- 

* curity againft him, as would be to the Hurt of 
4 his Perfon, or Prejudice of his Authority ; and 

* fo concluding us under a Neceflity of perpetual 

* Addrefles to him for Security, untill he give it, 

* as being the only Way confident with the Pre- 
4 fervation of his Perfon and Authority : To this 
4 we anfwer. That indeed the Covenant, heaping 
4 together feveral diftinct interefts, which are, or 
4 poffibly may come to be, inconfiftent, or one de- 

* ftructive to the other, or at leaft may be (b made 
4 Ufe of; and yet engaging pofitively for them all, 

* without expreffing clearly and unqueftionably 
4 which is chief and perpetual j and for the reft, 
4 how far, and upon what Conditions the Cove- 
4 nanter (hall be obliged to them, and what (hall 

* difoblige him, we find it is, as other promiflbry 
4 Oaths of that Kind, apt to be made a very Snare -, 

* ferving to draw in many of feveral Judgments 

* and Affe&ions, each in refpecl: to that Intereft 
4 therein engaged for, which himfelf does moft af- 
4 feel ; and fo thofe that make lead Confcience of 
4 the Oath, make but an Advantage of it upon all 
4 Occafions, to cry up that Intereft which them- 
' felves prefer, though to the Deftru&ion and Pre- 
4 judice of the reft, yea of that which is really the 
4 main and bcft ; while thofe that make moft 

* Confcience 



22O The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An 24 Car. I. c Confcience of the Oath, and affect the princi- 

l6 4 8 ' < pal and honefteft Part in it, are often with-held 

November. ' from what's juft and neceflary in relation there- 

' unto, being ftagger'd in regard to the Prejudice 

* it may be to the reft, to which jointly they feem 
' obliged. But this Covenant, as it is drawn, 
' though it have fomething of that enfnaring Na- 

* ture, yet, as to this Point, has not left the Ta- 

* kers without an honeft Way out ; or if it had, 

* yet, through the Providence of God, the Snare 

* is broken, and they may efcape. For, 

Fir/i, < The Covenant engaging to the Matters 

* of Religion and Public Intereft, primarily and 

* abfolutely, without any Limitation ; and, after 

* that, to the Prefervation of the King's Perfon 

* and Authority ; but with this Reftri&ion, viz. 

* In the Prefervation of the true Religion and Li~ 

* berttes of the Kingdom. In this Cafe, though a 

* Cavalier might make it a Queftion, yet who 

* will not rationally refolve it, That the preceding 

* Matters of Religion and the Public Intereft are 

* to be underftood as the principal and fupream 
' Matters engaged for, and that of the King's Per- 

* fon and Authority as inferior and fubordinate to 

* the other ? And if fo, then we appeal to all rea- 
' fonable Men, whether thofe Words, in the Pre- 
' fervation of the true Religion and Liberties^ can 
c be underftood as a Reftridtion of our Endeavours 

* for Prefervation of Religion and Liberties, fo as 

* the fame may not be endeavoured in any Way 

* that would be to the Prejudice of his Perfon or 

* Authority ; or not, furely, as a Reftriclion to the 
' Engagement for Prefervation of his Perfon and 
Authority, fo as to oblige thereto no further, 
' nor in any other Way, than fliall be confident 

* with the Prefervation and Defence of the true 

* Religion and Liberties of the Kingdoms ? Yea, 
' might it not juftly be fo underftood, that the 

* Obligation to preferve his Perfon and Authority, 

* fhould be fulfilled in (as well as not extended 
' further than) the Prefervation of Religion and 

* Liberties ? In fome of thefe Senfes thole Words 

* muft 



of E<N G L A N D. 221 

' muft be underftood, or elfe they have none j but An. 34 Car. l 

* are vain Words, making a vain Oath. If they l64 ' 

' were to be underftood in the firft Senfe, then, we November. 
' are fure, the whole Proceedings of both King- 

* doms, in making and maintaining War againft 

* him for Prefervation either of Religion or Liber- 
c ties, were queftionable for Breach of the Cove- 

* nant ; fmce that Way of preferving them did tend 
' probably to the Deftru6tion, and was without 
' any fafe Provifion for the Defence either of his 

* Perfon, or of that Authority that can properly 
' be called his, or underftood in Conjunction with 
' his Perfon, but that therein his Perfon might 

* probably have been deftroyed under the Sword, 

* or by a Bullet ; yea, was ordinarily endeavoured 
' to be fo, as well as the Perfons of others in Arms 

* with him ; and that Authority of his was cer- 

* tainly oppofed and endeavoured to be deftroyed 

* thereby, inftead of being defended. 

' If thefe Words be to be underftood in either of 

* the latter Senfes, then it follows, 

i. ' That if, by Reafon or Experience, the 
' ordinary Lights Men are in human Things to 

* walk by, we find that the making of Peace with 

* him, and therein the preferving or reftoring of 
' his Perfon or Authority, is, as the Cafe happens, 

* either an unrighteous Thing, (in refpeft of the 

* Blood and Spoil he hath caufed in oppofmg that 

* Covenant ever fince it was made and tendered ; 
' and of his never coming in or ceafmg that 
' Mifchief, till by P'orce reduced, and by the 
4 Hand of God delivered into the Power of your 
' Juftice) and, in thefe and other Refpects, not 

* confiftent with true Religion; or elfe that no 
4 inward Conviction, Remorfe, or Change of 

* Heart and Principles rationally appearing in him, 

* it be not fafe, but full of vifible Danger, if not 

* certainly dtftrudlive, to Religion or Public In- 

* tereft, or to the Perfons that have entered into 

* that Covenant, or encaged in the common Caufc; 

* then furely, by the Covenant itfelf, the Prder- 
' vation of his Perfon and Authority is not to be 

* cndea~ 



222 he Parliamentary M I s T o R Y 

An. 24 Car. i. < endeavoured fo far, or in fuch a Way ; and con- 

I64&< < fequently fuch a Peace with him, in fuch a Cafe, 

November. * 1S not to ^ e f u g nt or admitted, or at leaft the 

' Covenant obligeth not to it, but againft it ; and 

' whether the prefent Cafe and Confequences be 

* not fuch, we refer to our feveral Reafons before 

* given. 

2. ' From that Senfe it alfo follows, that if, 

* by the fame Light we find that, fuppofing no 
' Peace to be made with him, the continued Pre- 

* fervation of his Perfon in your Hands, though 
' clofe in CariJbrooke-Ca/tle^ or the letting him go 

* whither he will to preferve himfelf, and your 

* forbearing to bring him to Account or Judgment 

* for ought he has done, (when God has fo given 

* him into your Power, and given you fo clear 
' Grounds of proceeding againft him) would be 

* either an unrighteous Thing, and fo inconfiftent 

* with true Religion; orfo far inconfiftent with the 

* Prefervation and Defence of Religion and Liber- 

* ties, or with your covenanted utmoft Endeavour 
' to preferve them, as that it would vifibly expofe 
4 them, and thofe that have engaged in Covenant 

* for them, to perpetual Danger ; give perpetual 
4 Occafion and Advantage for new Wars and De- 

* figns, to the Deftruction of them, or to the mul- 

* tiplying of Blood and Oppreflion upon the King- 

* doms ; give the King and his Pofterity a perpe- 

* tual Privilege of Impunity, and therein an Invi- 
4 tation or Encouragement to multiply Attempts of 

* the like or greater Mifchiefs, though to the Over- 
' throw of all Religion and Liberties ; yea, would 

* give Encouragement alfo to Inftruments to.ferve 

* them in fuch Attempts ; and thus would harden 

* the Hearts both of them and their Inftruments in 
' fuch Things, to the Ruin and perpetual Preju- 

* dice and Danger of thofe higher Things covenant- 

* ed for, and Perfons covenanting ; and, laftly, 

* would in confequence debar you from that which 

* is the beft Fence, yea, efiential to the Defence 

* of Public Liberties, and pofitively covenanted fo, 
' -viz. The Punifhment of anv the Violaters there- 

4 of, 



^ENGLAND. 223 

1 of, if his Minifters, and by his Commiflion ; or An * 2 t^ ar * '* 
c would render your neceflary proceeding againft . 

4 fuch, unequal or fcandalous ; then furely to the November. 

* exempting of him from Juftice, and a continued 
4 Prefervation of his Perfon, fo far, or in fuch a 

* Way, and in fuch a Cafe, the Covenant cannot 
4 be underftood to oblige, but rather to the con- 
' trary : Or, if it might be fo underftood, doth it 

* not call for Explanation to clear it from being 

* underftood in fo wicked a Senfe ? Yea, if it did, 

* by the Advantage of Words, extend to fuch a 

* Senfe paft Explanation ; and if fo, through Error; 
4 Inconfideration, or Deceit in the framing of it ; 
' or through Flattery, evil Cuftom, or Unbelief 

* and carnal Policy in the pafiing of it, you had li- 
4 terally engaged yourfelves, and drawn in others 
8 to be engaged unto fo wicked and mifchievous a 

* Thing, did it not call for Repentance when you 
4 find fuch Wickednefs in it ? And rather than un- 
' neceflarily to continue yourfelves, and hold others, 

* under but a Colour of Obligation to a Thing 
4 fo evil, fo full of Prejudice and Danger unto, 

* and fo inconfiftent with, the Security of fo many 
4 other unqueftionably good Things ; to which in, 

* the fame Covenant, as well as by immutable 

* Duty, you ftand obliged, would it not call for 

* your utmoft Confideradon and Endeavour, fo far 
' as Providence has left you any Occafion, without 

* Sin or Wrong, to extricate and clear yourfelves 
4 and others from fuch a Snare ? In order to which 
' we proceed and fay, 

Secondly, * That whatever, or how exprefly fo- 

* ever, the Covenant may feem to have engaged 

* unto, or poflibly might have faid or purported any 

* Thing in the King's Behalf, or to his only Be- 
4 nefit, yet, as God has ordered the Bufinefs, it 

* does not now oblige you at all before God or 

* Man, in that Matter. For, 

I. * Confidering it only as a Covenant betwixt 
' Man and Man, as for the Civil Parts, it is, where 

* many or feveral Perfons joining to make a mutual 

* Covenant or Agreement, do therein covenant for 

1 fume 



224 T fa Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Jar. 1. * f ; me Things to the Good and Union of thertt- 

* [elves amongft themfelves, who are prefent and 
' Parties to it ; and, withall, do make a cove- 
' nanting Claufe therein for fomething elfe to 
'the Good or Benefit of another Perfon, not pre- 
' fent, nor Party to the Agreement ; but whom and 
c whofe Intereft, in regard of fome Concernment 

* of his in their Bufinefs, or from good Affection 

* to him and Dcfire of Peace with him, they would 

* willingly provide for as well as for their own, to 

* the end he might join with them in the Agree- 
ment, and partake the Benefit thereof as well as 

* themfelves ; we fay, in fuch Cafe, if the abfent 

* Party, as he never required it, fo when it is ten- 
' dered to him for his Conjunction, (hall not ac- 
' cept the Agreement, but refufe to join it ; and, 

* conceiving his Intereft prejudiced thereby, fhall 

* oppofe it, and begin, profecute, and multiply 

* Contefts with all .the Covenanters about the 

* Matters contained in it ; furely that Perfon in fo 
' doing, as he keeps himfelf free and no way 

* obliged thereby, as to what concerns the reft, 
' who concluded it of their own Heads, fo he ex- 
' eludes himfelf from any Claim to any Benefit 

* therefrom at their Hands as to what concerns 

* himfelf, while he continues fo refufing and op- 

* pofing ; and by his once refufing upon a fair and 
4 full Tender, though he had done no worfe, fets 

* the other Covenanters free from any further Obli- 
' gation, by virtue of that Covenant, as to what 
' concerns his Intereft or Benefit therein, although 

* the Covenant, as to other Matters concerning 

* the Right and Benefit of the Covenanters one 

* from another, ftands frill obliging and in Force j 

* and whatever they fhall afterwards do to him, 
' tho' indeed contrary to the Letter or Intention of 
' fuch Claufe in their Covenant on his Behal'f, yet 

* it cannot, by virtue of that Covenant, be under- 

* flood as a Wrong to him ; and, consequently, not 

* a Wrong to any othrr, before God or Man, fince 

* none but he, tho' it had been made or accepted 

* as mutual, could challenge the Benefit of it. 

Now 



^ENGLAND. 225 

1 Now whether this be not your Cafe in relation to An - 24 Car. T, 
' the K ; ng in this Covenant, witnefs your making * * 8 ' 

* and taking of it without and againft his Confent; 

* witnefs his oft and continued Refufals to accept 
' or join in it ; his oppofmg and fighting againft 
' yourfelves and others, both in and for the taking 

* and profecuting of it J and as for the Intention of 

* putting that Claufe concerning him into the Co- 

* venant, though made in his Abfence, and with- 
' out his Confent, it cannot, by the general Na- 
' ture of fuch Covenants, be underftood to be that 
' by it yourfelves (hould be obliged to that of his 

* Intereft abfolutely, whether he would accept of 

* join in the Covenant, or refufe and oppofe it j 
' but only to exhibit your Care, and (hew how 
e willing you were, really to go as far as you 

* could therein, that he and his Intereft fo far as 

* juft, might be provided for therein as well as your 
' own and the Kingdom's j and that you had no 
' Defign to exclude or prejudice his, if he would 
' accept and join in the Agreement as to the other ; 
' and even fo the Words added to and clofmg up 
' that Claufe in the Covenant do import, viz. That 

* the World may bear JPltnefs with our Conferences 

* of our Loyalty r , and that we have no Thoughts or 
' intentions td dlminijh his Majejly's jujl Power 
' and Greatnefs. 

2. ' Confidering it as an Oath, the Form of an 
' Oath added to that of a Covenant, makes it no 

* other than a Covenant ftill, but taken as in the 
4 Prefence of God, and only adds the calling of 
' God to witnefs, as to the Truth of your Inten- 
' tions and Faithfulnefs of your Endeavours to per- 
' form what it 4 as a Covenant, obligeth unto j and 
' look how far it, in the Nature of a Covenant, as 
c to any particular Matter, obligeth ; fo far, and 
' no further or otherwife, doth that calling of God 

* to witnefs engage him the more to avenge any 

* Falfhood in your Intentions, or Unfaithfulncfs in 

* your Endeavours to perform it. And this is all 

* the Inforcement which that Form of an Oath 

* addeth to that of a Covenant, without obliging 

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226 fix Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. < to any further Matter, or for any longer or more 

>6 * 8> * abfolute Continuance than it, as a Covenant doth 

November* ' oblige : And therefore wherein, and upon what 

* Suppofition foever, the Obligation ceafeth as a 

* Covenant, that Inforcement alfo ceafeth as an 

* Oath ; fo that if, as a Covenant, it oblige not to his 

* Benefit, upon Suppofition of his Refufal or Op- 
' pofal, upon the fame, it inforceth nought to his 

* Benefit as an Oath. 

* If any object. That in what we have here faid 

* we, who profefs to diflike the impofing of the 

* Covenant with any Penalty or Profecution againft 

* Refufers, do feem to take Advantage againft his 
' Majefty for Refufals; we anfwer^ We fay not< 

* for, but upon j and if no other Penalty be ever 
, ' put upon Covenant-Refufers* fave not to claim 

* Benefit by it, we {hall ever acknowledge that to 

* be moft juft and reafonable againft ourfelves, if 
4 Refufers. 

' Having thus endeavoured to remonftrate the 
Danger and Evil of the Way you are in, and 

* cleared the Way unto what we have to propofe, 
we fhallj with the fame Plainnefs arid Faithful- 

* nefs, give you our Apprehenfiotts of the Reme- 

* dies ; for which Purpofej upon all the Reafons 

* and Confiderations aforegoing, we proceed to 
' offer as folldweth : 

Fir/I, * We conceive and hope that, from what 

* hath before been faid, you may find abundant 

* Caufe to forbear any further proceeding in this 
' evil and moft dangerous Treaty, and to return 

* to your former Grounds in the Votes of Noh- 

* addrefles, and thereupon proceed to the fettling 
' and fecuring of the Kingdom without arid againft 

* the Kirigj upon fuch Foundations as hereafter* 

* are tendered ; but if; notwithftanding all the 
4 Evils and Dangers remonftrated to lie even in the 

* Treaty itfelf, you will yet proceed in fuch an evil 

* Way, we (hall at leaft defire that you make fure 

* to avoid that main Venom and Mifchief attend- 
' ing it, viz. The King's Reftitution with Impu- 

* nity, &V, and that imperfect Bargaining for par- 

tial 



of ENGLAND. 227 

* tail juftice againft inferior Offenders; and far the An. * 4 Car, I- 

* Avoidance of thefe we propoundj ^ 164.8. 

1. ' That you would reject thofe Demand? of No\ejiber. 
s the Kingi fent to you on his and his Party's Be- 

1 half, and efpeciaily in relation to that concerning 

* his Reftitution or Return to Lmdm, with Free- 

* donij tsc. that it may be exprefly declared and 

* provided by you, that, notwithftanciing .any Thing 

* concluded or to be concluded in this Treaty, the 

* Perfon of the Kino; may and (hall be proceeded 
' againft in a Way of Juftice, for the Blood fpiltj 

1 and the other Evils and Mifchiefs done by him, . 
f or by his Commiflion, Command, or Procurement ; 
* and, in order thereto, that he be kept in fafe 

* Cuftody as formerly. 

2. * That for other Delinquents you would 
' lay afide that particular bargaining Proportion, 

* which, as we underftand, the King hath refufed 

* in the Terms you offered) and whereby all your 
c Juftice and Mercy too would be rendered, both 

* for the Matter, Qualifications, and Circumftances 

* thereof, to be dependent upon particular Contract 

* with, and Grant from^ the King, and not upon, 

* the judicial Power of the Kingdom in Parlia-- 

* ment; and that inftead thereof it may be declared 

* and provided by you, that all Delinquents (hall 

* fubje& and fubmit to the afurefaid judicial Power, 
4 to be thereby proceeded againft according to Ju- 

* fticej or with Mercy, as Caufe fhajl appear ; and 
' thai none (hall be exempt or protected thsrefrom, 

* nor pardonable by any other Power than that 

* of the Kingdom in Parliament, by which they 

* (hall be judged. This we propound^ to the end 
" that Public Juftice, and the Interdt of the King- 
' dom therein, may be vindicated, falved, and la- 

* tisfied ; and yet) when that is fo provided for, 

* and, in fome fitteft Examples of Juftice upon 
chief Offenders, fhall be effectuated, v/e wife as 

* much Mercy and Moderation to the Generality, 

* upon their Submiflion, as formerly we have both 

* defiredand ufed 5 or as can confift with the Public 

* Intereft and Safety, and with competent Satif- 

P a- 




*Tbe Parliamentary 

faction to thofe that have engaged and fufFere<3 
for it 

November 1 * ^> * n re ^ at i n to tne former of thefe Provifions, 

* viz. concerning the Perfon of the King, it be 
c thought an unreafonable or unbefeeming Demand 

* in a Perfonal Treaty, that one Party, after Con- 
' ceffions to the other in all the Matters of Right, 
' and other Things in Queftion, fhould agree, 

* befides, to be puniihed himfelf for having mad 
' the paft Conteft about them j we confefs it might 
c be thought fo in a Treaty betwixt Parties ftand- 
' ing both free, and iri ah equal Balance of Power 1 

* or Poflibilities to obtain the Caufe ; but fo far as 
' a Treaty can rationally or properly be with a 
' Party wholly fubdued, captivated, and imprifon- 

* edi or in the Power of the other, to fach a Treaty 
' fuch Demands, if otherwife juft, are very fuitable 
' and proportionable j and^ in any Treaty, it feems 

* furely no lefs fuitable to demand the Principal to 

* Juftice than the Acceflaries, that were but his 

* necefTary and proper Agents in the Conteft, efpe- 

* cially where he is as much, if not more, within 
' the other Party's Power as they} and where it is 

* not fo much a demanding hfm to Juftice, as a 
c ^rovifo thati being already in the Power of their 
' Juftice, they will not exempt him from it; 

*,Thus, therefore, the Power of Juftice arid 
'Mercy being faved or referved, we proceed in 
c order to the actual difpenfmg theffcof, in relation 

* to the late Wars ; and^ thereby, to Peace with 
*- God, and prefent Quiet amongft Men, to pro- 

* pound as folldweth : 

I. ' That the capital and grand Author of our 

* Troubles, the Perfon of the King, by whofe 

* Commiflioris^ Commands, or Procurement, and 
' in whofe Behalf, and for whofe Intereft only, of 
' Will and Power, all our Wars and Troubles have 
' been, with all the Miferies attending them, may 
c be fpeedily brought to Juftice for the Treafon$ 

* Blood, and Mifchief he is therein guilty of. 

1. * That a timely and peremptory Day m:u be 

* fet for the Prince of /Ftf/ and the Diike ol > o> k 

fc 10 



. 



^ENGLAND, 

f to .come in and render them fel yes ; by which An, 

* Time, if they do not, that then they may be im- 
' ^mediately declared incapable of any Government 

C 4^ L L- V J u T\ N8N!.rl*4. 

* or Truft jn this Kingdom, or the Dominions 
' thereunto belonging, or of any Kind oi Right 

' within the famej and thence to (land exiled for * 

* ,ever, as Enemies and Traitors, and to die without 
' Mercy, if ever after found and taken therein; or 

* if by the Time limited, they, or either of them, 

* do render themfelves, that then the Prince for his 
' capital Delinquency, being in Appearance next 

* unto his Father's, may either be proceeded againft 
* in Juftice, or remitted, according as upon his 

* Appearance he fhall give Satisfaction or not, con- 
' cerning his being drawn into the rebellious En- 
' gagements he -has appeared to head. And the 

* Duke, as he (hall give Satisfaction or not coii- 
' cerning his Carriage in and fince his going out of 
e the Kingdom, being without Leave, and in Op- 
' pofition or Contempt of the Parliament, and to 
' the Prejudice of the Public Peace, may accord- 
c ingly be confidered as to future Truft, or not ; 

* But, however, that the Eftate and Revenue of 

* the Crown may be fequeftered, and all the Mat- 

* ter of coftly Pomp or State fufpended for a good 

* Number of Years, while the Defolations and 
? Spoils of the poor People made, by and in behalf 
f of that Family^ and for that vain Intereft, the 
f State and Greatnefs thereof may be in good 

* Meafure repaired 'or recovered j and that the Re- 
e venue, faving neceflary Allowances for the Chil- 

* dren's Maintenance, and to old Servants and Cre- 

* ditors of the Crown, not Delinquents, and alfo 
^ the 100,000 /. per Annum^ voted to the Crown in 

* lieu of the Court of Wards, may, for thofe Years, 

* be difpofed towards public Charges, Debts, and 
' Damages, for the eafing and leflening of the 

* People's Contributions towards the fame j fo as 

* the Eftates, neither of the Friends to the Public 
6 Intereft, nor alone of the inferior Enemies there- 
4 to, may bear wholly the Burden of that Lofs and 

* Charge, which, by and for that Family, the 

P 3 ' King* 



330 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. IA Car. I. c Kingdom or the good People thereof have been, 
^^ '^ f ' or, for future Security, {hall be put unto. 
November. 3- ' That, for further Satisfaction to Public 

' Juftice, capital Puniftiment may be fpeedily ex-* 

* ecuted upon a competent Number of his chief In- 

* ftruments alfo, both in the former and latter 
c War ; and, for that Purpofe, that fome fuch of 

* both Sorts, may be pitch'd upon to be made Ex^. 

* amples of Juflice in that Kind, as are really in 
' your Hands or Reach, fo as their Exception from 

* Pardon may not be a Mockery of Juftice in the 
' Face of God and Men. 

4. * That exemplary Juftice being done in ca- 
' pital Puniftiment upon the principal Author and 

* forre prime Inftruments of our late Wars, and 
' thereby the Blood thereof expiated, and others 

* deterred from future Attempts of the like in either 

* Capacity, the reft of the Delinquents, Englijb^ 

* in relation to the Wars, may, upon their Sub- 

* miflion and rendering themfelves to Juftice, have 

* Mercy extended to them for their Lives j and 
c that only Fines may be fet upon them, with rea-r 

* fonable Moderation, but with refpedt to pubKc 
' Damages, and their Perfons further cenfured, 

* and declared to be incapable of any Office or 

* Place of Power or public Truft in the Kingdom ; 
' or of having any Voice in Elections theieto, at 
' leaft for a competent Number of Years ; that alfo 

* a fhort and peremptory Day may be fet, by which 

* Time all fuch Delinquents may have final Warn- 

* ing to cotne in and render themfelves to Juftice, 

* and to tender their Submiflicns to fuch Fines and 
'< Ccnfures as aforefeid ; and that fuch of them as 

* (hall fo do by the Day affigned, and (hall, with-* 

* all, pay in or fecure their Fine, according to rea- 
< fooable Time given, may have their Sequeftra- 

* tions taken off, and be reftored to their Eftates ; 
' and that ro all fuch, as alfo to all thofe that have 
' already fubmitted to Fines or Con.poiltions, and 

* paid in or fecured the fame, a general Pardon 

* may be granted, made, and publifhed by Parlia- 
f mem, extending to abfolve them frorrt any fur-. 

thcr 



of- ENGLAND. 231 

* ther Cenfure, Damage, Trouble, or Queftion, An - =4 Car. t- 
4 either in the Behalf of the Public, or at the Suit , ' **' A 

* of any private Perfon, for any Thing faid or done November. 
' in profecution of, or in relation to, the late War 

* or Troubles ; and to reftcre them to all Privileges, 

* Benefits, and Immunities equally with other 

* People, excepting only the Capacity to Places 

* of Power or public Truft, or to Voices in Elcc- 
' tion thereunto as aforefaid ; that fo they may 
' not, as heretofore, after Fines or Compofitions 

* to the State for their Delinquency, remain fub- 

* je<5t to any Man's Action for any particular Aft 
' of their Delinquency, to their endlefs Trouble 

* or Undoing, or the driving of them to defperate 

* Ways of public Difturbance for their own Pre- 
fervation j but that fuch of them as will, for fu- 
' ture, live in Peace and Subjection to the Laws 

* and Government of the Nation, may enjoy the 

* Benefit thereof, and have Quiet and Protection 

* under the fame ; and their Pofterities, yea, or 
' thernfelves in Time, partake fully and equally 
' with others of the common Intereft contended 
' for, and obtained. But as for fuch Delinquents, 
' who having Mercy tendered to them Jfor Life, 
' as aforefaid, (hall not, by the Pay to be fet, 
' come in and render thernfelves, fubmit, and pay, 

* or fecure their P'ines as aforefaid, that it be de- 

* clared their Eftates (hall from that Day be abfo- 
' lutely confifcated, and fold or difpofed of wholly 
4 to the Public Ufe ; and their Perfons to ftand per- 
' petually exiled as Enemies and Traitors, and to 

* die without Mercy, if ever after found and taken. 

* within the Kingdom, or the Dominions thereto 

* belonging ; and upon their Default of Appear- 

* ance, &c. as before, or at the faid Day, that they 
4 be from thenceforth proceeded againft accord- 
4 ingly. 

5. < That the Satisfaction of Arrears to the Sol- 

* diery, with other public Debts, and the compe- 

* tent Reparation of public Damages, efpecially 

* and primarily of fuch as voluntarily engaged for, 

* and have conftantly adhered to, the common 

P 4 * Caufc, 



232 7& Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 14 Car. i. Gaufe, and fuffered for the fame, may be put 

t * * 8 ' * * nto f me orderly and equal, or proportionable! 

November. ' Way > wherein, as to Debts and Damages, 

* Care may be taken for feme Precedency of Satif- 
' faction to fuch whofe Loans or LofTes appear to 
' have been great, and Livelihoods fmall, fo as 
' they can worft bear the Want or Delay. And 

* towards thefe Things, not impairing any other 
' Security already given for Arrears to the Soldiery, 
' in an equal Way, or for juft Debts of other 

.' Kinds, we propound, That the Fines or Com- 
' pofitions of Delinquents may be difpofed of, and 
' employed to thofe Ufes only, as alfo the Confif- 
' cations and Proceed of their Eftates who fhall be 
' excluded from Pardon, or not come in by the 
' Day to be afligned, as in the laft precedent Ar- 
ti % :le. 

* Now, after public Juftice, and therewith the 

* prefent Quieting of the Kingdom thus far pro- 
' vided for, we proceed in order to the general Sa- 
e tisfadlion and Settling of the Kingdom as fol- 

* loweth : 

1. ' That you would fet fome reafonable and 
( certain Period to your own Power, by which 

* Time that great and fupreme Truft repofed in 
c you {hall be returned into the Hands of the 

* People, for and from whom you received it, that 
' fo you may give them Satisfaction and Aflurance, 
' that what you have contended for, againft the 

* King, for which you have been put to fo much 
c Trouble, Coft, and Lofs of Blood, hath been 
e only for their Liberties and common Intereft, 
c and not for your own perfonal Intereft or Power. 

2. * That, with a Period to this Parliament, to 
1 be afligned as fhort as may be with Safety to the 
c Kingdom and Public Intereft thereof, there may 

* be a found Settlement of the Peace and future 
. * Government of the Kingdom, upon Grounds of 

' common Right, Freedom, and Safety, to the 
4 Effect here following : 

Firfli ' That from the End of this, there 

* may be a certain Succeflion of future Parlia- 

' ments, 



of E N G L A N D. 233 

c ments, annual or biennial, with fecure Pro- An. 1 4 Car. j. 

c viflon - v I6 g- . 

I/?, ' For the Certainty of their Meeting, Sit- N pnb. 

* ing, and Ending. 

2<#y, * For the equal Diftribution of Elections 

* thereunto, to render the Houfe of Commons, as 
? near as may be, an equal Reprefentative of the 

* whole People electing. 

3<#y, For the Certainty of the People's meet- 
? ing, according to fuch Diftributions, to elect, and 
' for their full Freedom in Elections : Provided, 

* That none who have engaged, or (hall engage, 

* in War, againft the Ri^ht of the Parliament, 

* and Intereft of the Kingdom therein, or have 
6 adhered to the Enemies thereof, may be capable 

* of electing, or being elected, at lead during a 
' competent Number of Years, nor any other who 

* fhall oppofe, or not join in Agreement to this 

* Settlement. 

4/My, * For future clearing and afcertaining the 
' Power of the faid Reprefentatives ; in order to 

* which, that it be declared, That as to the whole 
' Intereft of the People of England, fuch Repre- 
' fentatives have, and (hall have, the Supreme 

* Power and Truft as to the making of Laws, Con- 
' ftitutions, and Offices, for the Ordering, Pre- 

* fervation ? and Gqvernment of the whole j and 

* as to the altering, repealing, or abolifliing of the 

* fame, the making of War or Peace ; and as to 
' the highcft and final Judgment in all civil Things, 
c without further Appeal to any created (landing 

* Power ; and that all the People of this Nation, 
6 and all Officers of Juftice, and Minifters of State, 
as fuch, fhall in all fuch Things be accountable 
' and fubjecl thereunto, and bound and concluded 

* thereby : Provided that, 

i. ' They may not cenfure or queftionany Man 
after the End of this Parliament, for any Thing 
' faid or done in reference to the late Wars, or 
' public Differences, faving in Execution of fuch 
f Determinations of this Parliament, as (hull be 
' left jn Force at the ending thereof, in relation to 

1 fuch 



234 1%? Parliamentary HISTORY 

! * fuch as have ferved the King againft the Parlia- 

* ment. 

November. 2 - ' They may not render up, or give, or take 
' away, any the Foundations of common Right, 

* Liberty, or Safety contained in this Settlement 

* and Agreement ; but that the Power of thefe two 

* Things laft mentioned mail be always underftood 

* to be referved from, and not entrufted to, the> 

* faid Reprefentatives. 

5//>/H, ' For Liberty of entering Diflents in the 

* faid Reprefentatives : That, in cafe of Corruption 

* or Abufe in thefe Matters of higheft Truft, the 

* People may be in Capacity to know who are free 

* thereof, and who guilty ; to the end only they 

* may avoid the further trufting of fuch ; but with- 

* out further Penalty to any for their free Judg- 
' ments there. 

Secondly^ * That no King be hereafter admitted, 
' but upon the Election of, and as upon Truft from 

* the People, by fuch their Reprefentatives ; nor 
' without firft difclaiming and difavowing all Pre- 
' tence to a Negative Voice, againft the Determi- 
' nations of the faid Reprefentatives or Commons 

* in Parliament j and that to be done in Come cer- 
' tain Form, more clear than heretofore in the Co- 

* ronation Oath,. 

* Thefe Matters of general Settlement, viz. That 

* concerning a Period to this Parliament, and the 

* other Particulars thence following hitherto, we 

* propound to be declared and provided by this Par- 

* liament, or by Authority of the Commons therein, 

* and to be further eftablifhed by a general Con- 

* tract or Agreement of the People, with their Sub- 
' fcriptions thereunto ; and that, withal, it may be 

* provided, That none may be capable of any Be- 
' nefit by the Agreement, who mall not con lent 
' and fubfcribe thereunto ; nor any King be ad- 
' mitted to the Crown, or other Perfon to any 

* Office or Place of public Truft, without exprefs 

* Accord and Subfcription to the fame. 

4 We have thus plainly and faithfully'propound- 
' ed our Apprehenfions, how the Evil and Danger 

4. * Of 



tf E N <G L A N D. 235 

* of the prefent Treaty may in good meafure be An> *+ c r ' ' 

* avoided, and our farther Conceptions of a Way, t V ' 
f wherein hopefully, through the Bleffing of God, Nov$her. 

* if moft Men be not given up, fome to unjuft Do- 
1 mination or particular Intereft, the reft to Ser- 
4 vitude, the Kingdom may be quieted, future 

* Disturbances prevented, the common Rights and 
' Liberties provided for, and the Peace and Go- 

* vernment of the Kingdom fettled to a juft public 

* Intereft ; and this we have fet forth in fuch Heads 

* and Particulars, which, if you will but fet afide, 
' for the Time, lefs important Matters, may moft of 

* them be brought to effect, and the reft affured and 
' put into a good Way of effect within a fewMonths j 

* fo as you might then eafe the Kingdom from the 
6 Burden of the grcaceft Part of that Force, which 

* otherwife, in cafe of Accommodation with the 

* King, you will be neceHitated for a much longer 

* Time, probably for many Years, to keep on upon 
' the public Charge, unlefs, upon the Accommo- 
' dation, you would give up all to the King's 
' Power again, and expofe thofe that have engaged 

* againft him, as Sacrifices to his and the Cavaliers 
c fcevengfe : And, for our Parts, let but that Way 

* of Juftice be effectually profecuted, and the Set- 

* tlement of the Public Intereft, upon fuch Foun- 
' dations as are afore propounded, be afitrred to us 

* and the Kingdom, ;:nd put into a Courfe of ef- 

* fevSl, (which, as we faid before, might well be 
' in a few Months) and we fhall not only embrace 
' with Chearfulnefs, but fhall, with Eager-net's, 

* defire a Difcharge from our prefent Service ; and 

* fhall be mod: re?dy to difband all, or Part, as 
' fhall be thought fit, the Arrears of the Soldiery 

* being fatishcci. We fhall therefore earneftly de- 

* fire, that thefe Things may be minded and pro- 

* fecuted effectually ; and that nothing may inter- 
' rupt them, fave what fhall be for immediate and 

* neccflary Safety : And that, to avoid Interruptions 
f from fuch things us are not neceflhry, or lefs pro- 

* per for Parliamentary Confederations or Debates, 
4 you will leave ail private Matters, and Things of 

* ordinary 



236 t fke Parliamentary H 1 s T o fi v 

n. 24 Or. It < ordinary Juftice and Right, to the Laws and pre- 

4 ' , ' fent proper Officers and Adminiftrations thereof, 

November. ' unt 'l better can be provided ; and commit all 

' ordinary Matters of State to the Management of 

* a fit Council of State, fufficiently empowered for 

* that Purpofe, and aflifted with the Addition of 

* fome Merchants, jn relation to the Balancing, 

* Security, and Advance of Trade, fo as you may 
f ; be the more free, for the prefent, to attend thofc 

* aforefaid Confederations of public Juftice, and the 
f Settlement of the Kingdom upon juft and fafe 

* Foundations of public Intereft; and that when 
' you have effectuated them, or put them into a 

* Way of Effect, you may, for the Aftertime of this 
4 Parliament's Continuance, more entirely apply 
' your Councils to fuch other Things as are the 

' * moft proper Work of Parliaments, and by and for 

* which Parliaments have had their Efteem in this 

* Nation, and the Kingdom moft Benefit by them, 

* viz. the Reformation of Evils or Inconveniences 

* in the prefent Laws and Adminiftrations thereof ; 
' the Redrefs of Abufes and fupplying of Defedh 

* therein, and the making of better Conftitutions 
" for the well Government and Profperity of the 
' Nation j as alfo the due Proportioning of Rates, 

* and providing of Monies, in the moft equal and 
' leaft grievous Ways, for all neceflary Ufes of 

* the Public, and the like : And, in order to fuch 

* Things, that you would, in due Time and Place, 
' viz, after public Juftice and the general Settle- 

* ment, confidcr iuch fpecial Overtures of that 

* Kind, as have been tendered to you in the Peti- 

* tions of Well-wiihers to Public Good ; and parr 

* ticularly in that large Petition from many about 
4 London^ dated the nth of September laft (z), and 

* alfo what ftiall be tendered of the like Kind from 

* others ; that fo what is really for the Remedy of 

* common Grievances, or the Advancement of 
f common Good, may not be flighted or negleft- 
u ed ; but that Evils in that Kind being removed, 
c and good Things ordained and provided by you, 

Vfor 
(a) In OUT Seventeenth Volume, p. 451. 



of ft G L A N D. 437' 

* for the Eafe, Benefit, and Profperity of the People, An. 14. Car. r. 

* in all Things poflible, you may, when you come 

* to lay down your Truft, leave i. good Savour be- 

* hind you, both to the Name of Parliaments, and 
' alfo of Men profefTing Godlmefs, fo much as this 
' Houfe hath done, and therein chiefly to the Ho- 
' nour of Almighty God, who hath, in h?s rich 

* Grace and Mercy, done fuch Wonders for yoii 
' and us. And for furtherance to all thefe Ends$ 

* fmce the Heart of Man is deceitful and Corrupt 

* above all Things, and moft apt to anfwerable 
4 Councils and Actings, where it can hope to walk 
' in the Dark, undifcerned or undiftinguiflied, tho' 

* but to the Eye of Man, we muft again defir, 
1 that even from henceforth the aforefaid Liberty 
1 of entering Diflents, as it is in the Scots Parlia- 

* ment, where lately there hath appeared a moft 
' ufeful Effect of it, fo alfo may be admitted amongft 

* you ; or at leaft that in thefe Tranfa&ions, of 

* fuch high Moment to the Public and all honed 
4 Interefts, and in Times fo apt to Deceit, De- 

* fecYion, and Apoftacy, that Liberty may be taken 

* by all honed faithful Members, that defire to 

* appear, as their Hearts to God, fo their Ways to 

* good Men : Yet ftill we wifli not, whoever (hould 

* by that Means be detected for corrupt Counfels, 
' that, for his judgment there, any Advantage 
' fhould be taken without Doors ; but only that 

* Men may avoid the further trufting of fuch Per- 

* fons, iind that the Innocent may not be unjuftly 
x prejudiced or fufpe&ed. 

' Thus, as the Exigence of the Cafe and Natur* 

* of the Bufmefs requires, being of fuch vaft Im- 
' portance to all Public, Religious, and Honeft Inte- 
4 reft, not in this Kingdom only, but in Neighbour 
' Nations, we have dealt with all Plainnefs and 

* Clearnefs as God hath enabled us j and now, to 

* conclude, we hope that, in an Age of fo much 

* Light, meer Will or Resolution will not be held 

* forth or purfued againft it ; but that, what Rea- 

* fon or Righteoufnefs there is in the Things we 

4 have 



238 be Parliamentary tt i s T o R V* 

An. 24. Car. l. have faid, will be confidered and followed : Nor 

* 648 ' ' let it find Prejudice with you from any Difdairi 

November. ' towards thofe from whom it comes, being in the 

* Condition of an Army, looked upon as Servants. 

* under you, fince Servants may fpeak to their 

* Matters* and ought to be heard and regarded, 
' even when they fpeak for their own Right only, 
' and rather when they fpeak for the Good and 

* Safety of them they lerve ; but much more when 
' they fpeak of that wherein they have fome joint 
' Intereft with them ; and yet more when* thofe 
' their immediate Matters being themfelves alfo 

* Servants and Truftees for the Benefit of others* 

* they fpeak for the Intereft of thofe for whom both, 

* are employed* 

By the Appointment of his Excellency the Lord- 
General^ and his General Council of Officers. 

, JOHN RUSHWORTH. 



ujior. the This Remonftrancc occafioned very high De- 
bates - Mr ' Witkcke writes (a), < That fome Mem- 
the Army. bers inveighed fharply againft the Infolency of it j 
others palliated or excufed the Matters in it 5 and 
fome did not ftick to juftify it ; but that rhoft weri 
filent becaufe it came from the Army, who^ they 
feared, would do as they had done formerly/ Ano- 3 
ther Cbntemporary Writer is much more particu* 
lar (b) : He informs us, That this Remonftrance 
was no fooner read in the Houfe of Commons, but 
the Independents began to applaud it highly ; of 
which the principal were Sir Peter Wentworth^ Mo 
Thomas Scott and Mr; Cornelius Holland: The latter 
of whom having moved j That the Thanks of the 
tioufe might be returned to the Army, for this 
their fo feafonable Remonftrance j Mr. Prynn'e an- 
fwered, * That it was fo far from being feafonablei 
that it was fubveffwe of the Law of the Land, and 
the Fundamental Conftitutions of the Kingdom j 
and that the EfFe&s of it could be nothing but De- 

folation 

(a) Mtmbnah, p* 350* 

(b) Mxnuriui Pragmatical, N&, j| 



of ENGLAND. 239 

folatlon and Confufion.' Mr. Maynard argued as An. *4_C' ! 
if he had taken Fees on both Sides ; one while 
magnifying the gallant Deeds of the Army, and 
obferving that, under God, they had faved the 
Kingdom ; then firking them for their Remon- 
ftrance, and (hewing how it tended to the Deftruc- 
tion of the Kingdom, and the DifTolution of Go- 
vernment : Yet others wanted not courage to lay 
the Cafe open very plainly ; faying, That it be- 
came not the Houfe of Commons, who are a Part of 
the Supreme Council of the Nation, to be pre- 
icribed to, or regulated and baffled by, a Council 
of Sectaries in Arms.' A City-Member faid, ' That 
the Houfe ought not to be difcouraged, but proceed 
in the Treaty to an Agreement with the King, if 
poflible ; for that, upon fo juft and righteous a 
Caufe, they would not want the Hands, Hearts, 
and Purfes, of many Thoufands to back them.' 

The Independents perceiving by thefe Speeches^ 
and the Difcontents and PVowns of many in the 
Houfe, that the Army was like to reap fmaJl 
Thanks for their Remonft ranee, moved, ' That it 
might be debated prefently, or put off no longer 
than the Morrow at fartheft, that fo the Senfe of 
the Houfe upon it might be returned fpeedily by 
way of Anfwer.' To which It was replied, ' That 
the Remonftrance in itfelf was tedious ; and the 
Particulars in k very many, and of too great Mo- 
ment to be debated, with fufficiejit Caution and 
Difcretion, upon fo (hort Warning/ and there- 
upon a Motion was made for putting off the De- 
bate for a Week j which we find, by the yournal^ 
was agreed to without a Divifion. But this 
Delay gave fo great Difguft to the Officers who 
had brought up the Remonftrance, and attended 
in the Lobby in hopes of a different Refolution 
thereupon, that they followed feveial of the Mem- 
bers down Stairs with menacing Speeches ; faying, 
* They muft and would have their Remonftrance- 
dbajed out of hand, or the Honfe might take 
what followed/ A Threat which they fully made 
gcoJ, as will (botfly appear. 



role. 



tte Parliamentary Ji r s T o R Y 
An. 14 cr. i. tf OVt 21. The following Letter from Col. Ham- 
^ * * '. . rtiond) Governor of the IJle of Wight,, was read in 
NoTMuber. the Houfe of Lords, addrefs'd to the Earl of Man- 
chejler as their Speaker : 

My Lord^ Newport, Nov. 19, 1648. 

A Letter from < | AST Night, abc-ut Twelve of the Clock, 
^AnfwwTdie ' ^-* * received a Letter of the i6th Inftant, and 
Vote concerning * in it a Vote of both Houfes concerning the King's 
the King's Pa- Parole ; and, according to Command in the faid 

* Letter, I have this Morning propofed and cotn- 
' municated the faid Vote unto him j whereunto 
'his Majefty hath declared his full Agreement, in 

* the Hearing of many Gentlemen then prefent, as 
' is exprefled in the faid Vote ; and further de- 

* manded a Copy of it J and afterwards told me, 
' That upon Tuefday next come three Weeks, upon 
' his Computation, his Parole endeth. 

' My Lord, I muft acknowledge myfelf to be 
f no way worthy of fuch a Character of Favour as 

* I have received, figned by your Lordfliip, all 

* that I have or can do being but my Duty ; but, 

* my Lord, before I conclude, give me Leave to 
' renew one humble Suit to your Lordfliip, which 

* I have formerly made, that you will pleaiie better 
' to provide for the Service you have been pleafed 
' to command me unto ; and this I beg of your 

* Lordfhip with the greateft Importunity, becaufe 
' (though hitherto it hath pleafed God miracu- 
4 loufly to guide me through this difficult Employ- 

* ment, yet) I find in myfelf an utter Difability to 
' proceed in it as Things now ftand, and are like 
6 to continue ; which, I muft profefs to your Lord- 

* fhip is an Argument to me, above any Eafe or 
' Advantage whatfoever, to make thefe my De- 
' fires ; which I humbly prefent to your Lordfliip, 
' with this Profeflion, that, wherein I am capable, 

* there lives not a more faithful Servant to the Par- 

* liament of England, than 

Tour Lcrd/bip's moft bumble Servant, 

ROBERT HAMMOND, 
Ths 



^ENGLAND.' 241 

The Commons having fent up their Vote, of the An. 24 Car. j. 
1 8th Inftant, That the Treaty with the King be t :6 * 8 - , 
continued to the 25th, the Lords gave their Con- November, 
currence thereto, as alfo to another Vote of the 
2oth, declaring his Majefty's laft Anfwer concern- 
ing the Earl of Ormond to be un fat is factory. 

Under the Proceedings of the 24th of laft Month 
we mentioned the Names of the feven Delinquents 
agreed upon, by the Lords, to be exempted from 
Pardon ; and, in the Beginning of this, the Ob- 
jections and Debates thereupon in the Houfe of 
Commons. In confequence hereof there had been 
feveral Conferences, wherein the Lords {hewed 
themfelves very anxious to fave the Earl of New- The feven Delm- 
cajlle and Sir John Wintour^ inftead of whom they ? ue f S u ag e V n ' 

r i c>- Jv t n i f si n , T /- b X both HouCj. 

propofed Sir John Byron and Sir George Raddijfe. to be excepted 

And this Day another Conference was held on that from Pardon. 

Subje&, at which the Commons declared their Re- 

folution to adhere to their Nomination of the Earl 

of Newcajlle^ becaufe he had been one of the 

greateft Enemies to the Parliament in the North 

of England-, and had fo great Intereft in thofe Parts 

as to have that whole Country, in a Manner, at 

his Command ; but that if the Lords would con- 

fent to this Earl's being one, the Commons would 

accept of Sir John Byron inftead of Sir John JVin- 

four, in regard of the latter's having been beyond 

Sea for many Years. To this Propofal the Lords, 

at laft, agreed ; fo that the feven excepted Perfons 

from Pardon, now, were 

William Earl or New- Sir Richard Grecn"j'J!s, 

cajlle, David Jenkins y Kfqj 

George Lord Dighy^ Sir Francis Doddir.gtm, 

^MarmadukeLangdale^ Sir John Byrcn, 

Nov. 22. -The Lords agreed to the following An Additional 
Additional Propofition, voted by the Commons the ^ 
Day before, That fuch Agreements as mall be ind. 
* made by both Houfes with the Kingdom of $tot- 
' land, for the Security of all thofe of that King- 

VOL, XVIII. Q. * dooi 



tfhe Parliamentary H i s t o R Y 

Aij. *4 Car. I. t d orn w h o nave aflifted or adhered to the Parlte* 

. ^ J 4S * 7 c ment of England; and for the fettling and pre- 

Novtmber. ' ferving an happy and durable Peace between the 
e two Nations ; and for the mutual Defence of each 
* other, be confirmed by Act of Parliament.' And 
this Propofition was ordered to be fent to the Com- 
miflioners, to be by them prefented to the King for 
his Confent. 

Nov. 24. This Day came a Letter from the 
Commiflioners for the Treaty^ directed to the 
Speaker of each Houfe refpectively ; which being 
opened, appeared to ferve only as a Paflport to the 
en fuing Account of their Proceedings. 

The firft Paper dated the iyth of November^ 

imported no more than that the Commiflioners had 

papers between that Day prefented to the King the Refolutions of 

the King and the both Houfes of the nth, in confequcnce of his 

Commiflioners, fyjaiefty's final Anfwer, of the 4th, to the Propo- 

concerning the J J . ', t / T> r 

Votes upon the fition concerning the Church, fome Parts of which 
Propofition for had been voted fatisfactory, and others not. Thefe 
they fet down feriatim (but being already given 
under their proper Date, at p. 146, are unneceffary 
to be here repeated) and then they conclude thus : 
' We therefore humbly defire your Majefty to give 

* your full Confent to the feveral Parts of the Pro- 
' pofition mentioned in thefeVotes and Refolutions, 
' according to our former Defi res, contained in our 
' Paper of the Jz^th of September lafr, concerning 

* the Church.' Then follow 

The KING'S ANSWER concerning the Votes of 
both Houfes, which declare Part of his Ma~ 
jefty's Anfwer concerning the Church to be un- 

fatisfactory. 

CHARLES R. New P ort > Nov - ' 8 > 'M- 

jN Anfiver to your Paper of the iftk Injl. where- 
* by you have acquainted his Majejly with the 
Votes and Refolutions of hot}} Houfes of the nth of 
November Injlant^ and thereupon defired his full 

Conffnt 



the Churc 



tf E M G L A N t>. 

Confent to the feveral Parts of the Pr opojitiori men- 
tioned in thofa Votes^ according to your former De- 
fires, contained in your Paper of the i^th cf Sep- Nvenbr. 
tember, concerning the Church \ his Majefty faith 
That he hath well weighed and examined his Concef* 
fans to that Proportion, and is very ferry to find thaty 
notwithftanding all his Care and Endeavours to give 
his two Houfes Satisfaction, manifefted in four Anfivers 
already given in to you upon that Subjeft, by which he 
hath confented to whatsoever hs dare with a good Con- 
jciente grant, ytt his Anfwers are Jlill returned back 
unfatisfaffory. 

But his Majejly, up en Perufal of your former 
Papers, finds that the main Dijjatisfciftion of his 
two Houfes rejls it: the Matters concerning the Abu- 
lition of Bi/hops, Sale 'of their Lands, and his Ma- 
je/i\'s Intention to uje a Form of Divine Service in his 
Ghapfl. 

As to thcfe Particulars his Majefly doth again 
clearly profefs, That he cannot, with a good Confci- 
ence, confent to the total Abolition of the FuncJwn 
and Power of Bijhops, nor to the entire and abfelute 
Alienation of their Lands, as is defired, becaufe he 
is yet perfuaded in his "Judgment, that the former it 
of Apojlolical Injlitution, and that to take away the 
latter is Sacrilege. Neither can his Majefty com- 
municate in a public Form of Divine Service, and 
Adminijl ration of the Sacraments* where it is wholly 
uncertain .'/;<?/ the Mini ft er will offer to God; and 
therefore he cannot recede from his former Anfwers 
in any of thofe Particulars. And if his two Floufes 
jb.ill jerimijly conjider how that his jWajeffy, by his 
i-rnttr Anfiuers, hath totally fufpendcd Epifcopat 
(rovernment for three Years ; and, after the Jaid 
'I i, in', limited the fame in the Powers of Ordination 
<f*id 'furijdiflion j and that the primitive Office of 
a Bijhop only is by him endeavoured to be preserved ; 
and that the Bijho.ps Lands are heavily charged with 
J .fiijes fir ninety-nine. Yfiirs ; and that Deans and 
Chapters, and other tJmir Dtf>t:n<-i't'nts 9 are taken 
it-way ; his Maj^fly is confident his two Mcufcs can* 
not think it /VY/Aiv.vi/,'., in a Matter of this \ r itture> 



44 ^ }e t&tiGtt&ttafy HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. fg offer any Violence to the Conscience of their Sovt* 
l648 *_ _, reign, nor to fuffer thofe Differences* which reft in 
November. f narroliv a Compafs, to binder the Settlement of fa 
bleffed a Peace in this Kingdom. And if his two 
Houfes Jhall not think fit to recede from the Strifi-* 
nefs of their Demands in theje Particulars^ his Ma- 
jejly can with more Comfort cajl himfelf upon his Sa- 
viour's Goodnefs to fupport him in, and defend him 
from, all Affliftions, how great foever, that may 
befall him, than for any politick Confederation, which 
may feem to be a Means to re/lore him, deprive him- 
felf of the inward Tranquillity of a quiet Mind c 
Wherefore, as to thefe Particulars before-mentioned^ 
as alfo concerning the Articles of Religion, and what 
elfe remains in Difference upon this Proportion, his 
Majefiy adheres to his former Anfwers ; and hopes 
that his two Houfes, upon a Review and farther Con- 
Jideration of his Reafons^ witt therewith rejl fully fa-* 
ttsfied, 

TJie COMMISSIONERS REPLY to the foregoing. 

Newport, Nov. 20, 1648^ 
" T TAving perufcd your Majefty's Papers of the 

* JTi i8th Inft. given in as an Anfwer to ours of 

* the iyth, which contained the Votes and Refolu- 

* tions of both Houfes upon fome cf your Majefty's 

* Anfwers to our Defires, exprefled in a Paper of 
' the 25th of September, concerning the Church ; we 

* do humbly fay, That the Houfes of Parliament 
' did, as formerly, return thofe Anfwers back as 
' linfatisfac-tory, becaufe there were no Cortceflions 

* of the Things defired, which they had in their 

* Judgments concluded to be fo neceflary for the 

* Good of the whole Kingdom, both in Church and 

* State, wherein they would not force your Ma- 

* jefty's Confcience, but defire it may be informed, 

* that fo yours agreeing with theirs, who are your 
e great Council, there might be a Compliance 
4 throughout, and a Concurrence in thefe and all 
' other Things for healing the Breaches, compo- 

* fmg the Differences, and fettling a blefled Peace, 



*f ENGLAND. 245 

* within your Dominions ; and therefore we, in Ap. a 4 c. j 

* purfuance of their Directions, have made bold to 

* prefs your Majefty fo often, both in our Papers 

* and Debates, and mul ft ill perfift. 

* As for the Particulars infifted upon ; Firft, For 
' the Abolition of Epifcopacy, we take Leave to 
' fay, it is not the Apoftolical Bifhop which the 
' Bill (defired of your Majefty) intends to remove; 
4 but that Epifcopacy which was formerly efta- 
4 blifhed by Law in this Kingdom, grown up to a 
4 Height of outward Pomp and Greatnefs, and 

* found by Experience to be a Grievance to the 
Subject, a Hindrance of Piety, an Encroach- 
4 ment upon the Power of the Civil Magiftrate, 
4 and fo a Burden to the Perfons, Purfes, and Con- 

* fciences of Men : Whereupon the Parliament, 
4 finding it to be for the Honour of your Majefty, 
4 and Profit of the Subject, to take it away, defire 
4 this Bill for that Purpofe ; not meddling with the 

* Apoftolical Bifhop, nor determining -what that 

* Bifhop is whom the Apoftles mention in Scrip- 
4 ture, but only to put him down by a Law who 
4 was fet up by a Law j nothing being more pro- 

* per for Parliaments, than to alter, repeal, or 

* make Laws, as Experience teacheth it to be for 

* the Good of the Common-wealth. But admit- 
4 ting that Apoftolical Bifhop to be within the Pur- 

* port of this Bill, we humbly conceive that it doth 

* not follow, that therefore in Confcience it muft 
4 not be palled ; for we may not grant that no Oc- 
cafion can make that alterable which is found to 
have its Foundation only in the Practice of the 
4 Apoftles, not in a Precept. We fuppofe that 
4 fome Things have been altered, which the 
' Apoftles practiied ; that Circumftances many 
4 Times change the Nature of moral Actions ; that 
4 for the attaining of a great Good, or the Avoid- 
4 ance of a great Evil, that which, fmgly confidered ? 
4 were not fit to be dene, perhaps a Fault if it 

* were, may become a Duty, and a Man be bound 
4 in Confcience to do it : And if ever Circum- 
4 fiances could have a more powerful and confider- 

Q^ 3 * able 



21^.6 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. a* Car. I. e able Operation than in this Particular, we humbly 

t ' ; * leave to your Majefty's Confideration. But this 

November, * ls hid only by the way, and admitting, for Ar- 
' gument's Sake, not granting the Ground" 

* which your M<>jefty is pleaied to go in the refu 

* fing to pals this Bill. 

Secondly, ' For the Sale of Bifliops Lands, which 
e your Majefty apprehends to be Sacrilege^ we 

* humbly offer, That Biftiopricks being diiTblved, 
' their Lands (as of all Corporations) naturally, by 

* the Law of the Land, revert to the Crown ; 
f which is their Founder and Patron, and heretofore 
' held it no Sacrilege to ciifpofe of Bifhops Lands, 

* to its own and others Ufe, by Ail of Parliament, 
' which was an ordinary Practice in your Predecef- 
' fors, Kings and Queens of this Nation. Befides, 
6 we might fay, that in all Ages, and even under 
' the Ceremonial Law, eminent and urgent Ne- 
' ceflity, efpecially if public, hath difpenfed with 
'i the otherwife employing; of confecrated Things. 

* Then whereas your Majefty is pleafed to fay, 

* You cannot cammunuaie in a public Form of Di~ 
' vine Service^ where it is uncertain wkat the Mi- 

* ntfter will offer to Gad; we humbly befeech your 

* Majefty to be informed, that the Directory, which 

* your Majefty hath granted to eftablifli for three 

* Years, doth fet down the Matter of the Prayer 
' which the Minifter is to obferve ; only Words 
c and Expreflions, and Enlargements upon that 
6 Subject, are left to his Difcretion, for the EJC- 
< erciie of his Gifts ; fo that the Subftance of whart 

5 he is to fay will be manifeft unto your Majefty : 

* Yet, give us Leave to add farther, it can be no 

* Objetion againft joining with a Minifter in Pray- 
c er, not to know before-hand the very Words that 
" he will lay ; for then one muft not hear any pray 

* before Sermon, where every feveral Minifter hath 

6 a feveral Form, and moft vary (till according to 
6 Occafion. 

* Upon the whole Matter ; we hope your Ma- 

* jefty, afier a more ferious Confideratioii, will ea- 

* i\ly difcexn the iuft Caufe which the two Houies 



of E N G L A N D. 247 

c of Parliament have to remain, as they do, unfa- An - 2 4 Car - * 

* tisfied j feeing your Sufpenfion of Epifcopal Go- , 

vernment for three Years doth not meet with November. 
' their Fears, nor can prevent the Inconveniences 
c which muft neceflarily follow upon the Return of 
' Biftiops, and the Powers which you referve unto 

* them after that Time. 

' For, firjly That a Biftiop, fo qualified as your 

* Majefty exprefleth, (hall rife again then, is wholly 
' in your Majefty's Choice, and unavoidable by 
' the Parliament, with whom if you will not agree 

* before (which depends meerly upon your Ma- 
' jefty 4 s Will) no other Government can be fet up j 

* and then this of Epifcopacy returns, and that 

* with fo great a Power, as the Biftiop may chufe 

* if any Minifter at all ftiall be made in the Church 
' of England ; and thofe that (hall, to be at his 
' Devotion, he having the Negative Voice in Or- 

* dination ; which we humbly conceive the Scrip- 

* ture holds not forth to have been in that Biftiop, 

* who is there mentioned in]| the Writings of the 

* Apoftles ; and confequently that which your Ma- 

* jefty endeavours to preferve, not to be the pri- 

* mitive Office of a Biftiop. 

' Then for Lands, which your Majefty al- 

* ledgeth to be fo heavily charged with Leafes for 

* ninety-nine Years ; we humbly fay, There is a 
Rent which you ftill are pleafed to referve to 
him, and the Reverfion after thofe Years elapfed, 

* fo as the Proprietor and Property (hall continue 

* as before, and will be apprehended to be but a 

* Door left open for the fame Greatnefs and Pomp, 

* with the Confequences thereof, to be re-admitted 

* upon the firft Opportunity j which being, it will 

* be impoffible to free Men's Minds from Fears, 

* and the Diftempers which thofe Fears will oc- 

* cafion. Befides, it cannot be expected the Pref- 

* byterian Government ftiould be complied with, 
6 and exercifed either with Profit or Comfort, to 
5 the Church in general, or to particular Perfons 

* (whether the Governor or the Governed) every 
c Body feeing it to be fo ftiort lived, and molt Men 




The Parliamentary HISTORY 

* fo apt to refift Government, who will thereby be 
emboldened againft this ; fo as it is much to be 

* doubted that what your Majefty hath done, fup- 
' pofing it will quiet the present Diftrations, and 
' give Way for calmer Debates afterwards) may 
' rather be a Means of farther and greater Troubles., 

* and put us at a larger Diftance from a Compo- 

* fure of the Bufmefs of the Church for the Time 

* to come than we are now. And therefore we 
c hope your Majefty will pardon our prefling you 

* in this Manner, and not think it unreafonable 
' that the Houfes of Parliament do fo infift upon 

* thefe Particulars, which to them appear of fo 
' great Confequence. The Intention is not, as 
' was faid before, to offer Violence to your Ma- 

* jefty's Confcience, but that you will pleafe to 
f rectify it, by being better informed, that both 

* yourfelf and your People may have Caufe of Re- 

* joicing. 

' Upon thefe Grounds, and many more too long 
f to be here inferted, we again humbly beleech your 
' Majefty to reyiew our former Papers ; call to 
' Mind thofe Reafons and Arguments which, in 
f Debate, have been ufed upon this Subject, and 
' fuch other as your Wifdom, upon the Recollec- 
6 tion of your Thoughts, will fuggeft unto you j 
f and then, all confidered, that you will be pleafed 

* to give your Royal Confent to the Particulars 
' above fpecified, according to our Defires exprefied 

* in our Paper of the 25th of September.' 

[Sign'd by the Commiffioners.~\ 

His MAJESTY'S Final ANSWER to the COMMIS- 
SIONERS Papers about the CHURCH. 

CHARLES R Newport, Nov. 21, 1648. 

TG*O R a final Anfiver to you^ as to your Paper of 
+ the ijth of this In/lent^ concerning the Churchy 
and to your loft Papsr of ths 20th Injlunt, his Me- 
jefty faith, That he is -well pie a fed with the Ex- 
prejfions both in the Preface and Condufion of the 
faid loft Papery That his t<,vo Houfes intend not 

4 to 



cf ENGLAND. 249 

to force or offer Violence to, but inform and rec- An, 24 Car, 

tify, his Confcience ; and therefore, notwithjlanding , l6 * 8 ' , 

the NeceJJity which is urged upon him through your Kwesdw 
whole Paper for his prefent ConceJJtons, (which other- 
wife might feem to contraditt thofe Exprejffions which 
fo well pleafed his Majejly, yet he hopes his enfuing 
Anfwers will fatisfy his two Houfes, Jince he is there- 
unto enforced by his Conjcience, which fully concurs 
with the Senfe of all other Parliaments, but this, fine* 
the Reformation, 

Firft, As for the Abolition of Epifcopacy ; if 
what you defire of his Majejly would not, being 
granted, abfolutely remove^ nay abolijh, the Exercife 
of the Apojlolical Bijhop, this Point would be foon 
agreed betwixt his Majejly and his two Houfes ; for 
all the additional Power and Jurifdiftion which his 
Majejly' s PredeceJJors have be/lowed upon that Apo- 
Jlolical Funftion^ he hath consented Jhall be taken 
away, as Archbijhops, Deans and Chapters^ &c. 
leaving nothing but what (as his Majcjly believes to 
have proved by his Papers to your Divines) was 
charly injlituted by the Apoftles themfelves j and if 
he Jhould give Way to remove all EccleJMftical Func- 
tions, which by Laiv are exercifed, by that Rule 
even the Preflyters themfelves might be taken a^voy ; 
for quejiionlefs the Civil Sanction gives the legal act- 
ing Power to all Divine Institutions, otherwife the 
Chrifiian Clergy would now be in little better Cafe 
than they were before there were Chrifiian Emperon. 
As for thofe Apojlolical Practices which have, or may 
(for the Avoidance of greater Evils] be altered, his 
Majejly denies not but that Circumjlances may change 
the Nature of Moral Actions ; and may perhaps make 
that which is a Fault at one Time, fingly conftdfrcd 
in itfelf, become a Duty at another ; yet, if the Par- 
ticulars now demanded be not Jit to be done, or per- 
haps a Fault if done, his Majejly conceives (the 
good End being the fame on both Sides, to wit, the 
Peace of the Kingdom] that the Confideration of 
extraordinary C(rcumjlanccs ought rather^ in. this 
Cafe, to have a powerful Operation with his two 
Houfes to recede from their Demands, (ivhich can- 
not 



^ Parliamentary HISTORY 

*4 CaE< I' not Is thought a Fault in them) than to be made Uft 
of as an Argument to prefs his Majejly to do a 'Thing 
dgainft his Conscience ', which appears to him to be un- 
lawful ; fince the fame good End may as well be ob- 
tained by relaxing on the one Side, as by prejfeng on the 
.other. Befedes, his Majejly conceives not this to be of 
that Number, it being not only a bare Practice, but 
an Inftitution for continual Ufe in the Church, 

Secondly, As for the Sale of Bijhops Lands ; his 
Majejly conceives that Precedents in Cafes of Con- 
fcience, cannot fatisfy, they only proving that fuch 
Things were done, not the Lawfulness of them. Now, 
that the total Alienation of Church Lands (zvhich is 
the true State of the ^uejlion] is Sacrilege, Divines, 
cf all Sorts, and of all Times, though otherwife dif- 
fering in Opinion, yet herein agree with his Majcfty's 
Judgment ; which being well weighed, he hopes may 
Jathfy as to this Particular. Nor can the Practices 
under the Ceremonial Law male any Thing for this 
Cafe, becaufe in thofe Days full Compenfation was al- 
ways intended and ordinarily followed, though abfolute 
Neceffity, and not fuch as might be otherwife avoided, 
difpenfed fundry Times with employing of Sacred 
Things. 

Upon the whole Matter, his Majejly hopes that 
his ttvo Houfes, after a more ferious Confederation 
of thefe and his former Reafons, will clearly dif- 
tern that they are not pretended, but real Points of 
Conscience upon which he now Jlicks ; and Jince, by- 
the Sufpenfeon of Epifcopacy for three Tears, his 
Majejly hath fully, for that Time, granted his two. 
Houfes Defires ; fence he hath reduced the Office of 
a Bijhop, not only to the Apojlolical Injlitution, which 
yon fay is nst defered to be removed, but likewife taken 
away all thofe additional Powers and Junjdiflions 
which can make them liable to the Imputation of 
thofe Grievances and Inconveniences mentioned in 
your Paper ; for as for the Negative Voice in Or- 
dination, his Majejly much wonders that any can 
queftion that Power to have been in the Apojlallcal 
Bijhop, it being evident by I Tim. v. 22. and Ti- 
t^is i. 5. that Me Ordination was praclljed by therii ; 

and 



of E N G L A N D. 251 

tin i fine e it is more than likely that, upon a fokmn De- An - 2 4 Car. I. 
bate bad with the Divines, according to bis Majejly's t 
former De fires, bis Majefty and the two Houfes November, 
will agree upon a fettled Form of Cburch Govern* 
meat long before the End of three Years, whereby all 
tbofe Di/lraclions, feared after that Time, will be 
prevented. - 

And laftly, as for Church Lands ; Jince by the 
heavy charging of them, bis Majefty hath fatisfied 
thofe Burthens for which they were engaged, he can- 
not but hope that his two Houfes will reft fatisfied 
with thefe and his former Anjwers ; efpeciatly con- 
ftdering that if the Treaty ficuld break off" upon this, 
which God forbid, the Violence offered to his Majfjiy'f 
Confcience, agaitift which you ^protejl, would be too 
apparent to all the World. Bejides, the Confufon 
that mujl necejjlirily follow in all thefe his Dominions, 
which is no ways in his Majefty' s Power to help ; 
for you know who fays, What (hall it profit a Man 
to gain the whole World, if he lofe his own Soul ? 
Whereas on the contrary, the Compliance with his 
Majejty in thefe Particulars puts him in a right Way 
for the better Information of his Conscience, and in 
the mean Time fettles a happy Peace in thefe di dratted 
Kingdoms. 

Concerning his Majejlys Declaration for a fit 
Form of Divine Service, in his Anfwer of the 
fourth of this Inflant, his Majefty having now ob- 
ferved the Latitude of the Directory, is willing that 
that ExpreJJion Jhall not be taken as any Part of his 
Anfwer. 

As to all other Particulars, his Majefty adheres to 
his former Anfwer s. 

The Commiffioners fecond Paper was to inform 
the Parliament, that, on the 2ift Inftant, they had 
prefented to trie King the Votes and Refolutions 
of both Houfes of the 151)1, in Anfwer to his Ma- 
jefty's Propofitions of the iyth of October laft, 
(which they recite, and are already given at p. 81 
and 150) and that of thefe the King had declared 
his Acceptance as follows : 

Newport, 




he Parliamentary fit I s T o K v 
CHARLES R. Newport, Nov. 21, 1648. 

11 v ' TJ I S Majejly having received the Votes of both 

November. J~L ^^ ^ ^ ^ ^ November /^^ /., 

Anfwer to his own Proportions, formerly fent to both 
HHMajefty's #/, is well pleafed, 

AiMwer, touch- j. That, from ana r after fuch Time as the Agree- 
we the Votes mentf O f this Treaty be ratified, by Aft or Atts of 

BDil his own r>- it 7 IT r a> r 

Parliament, all his Honfes, Manors, Lands, with 
the growing Rents and Profits thereof, and all other 
legal Revenues of the Crinvn, Jliall be rejlored unta 
him, liable to the Maintenance of antient Forts , and 
all other public and legal Charges which they were t 
formerly charged withal, or liable unto ; with an 
Exception of fuch Cajlles and Forts as are now gar- 
rifoned, and of fuch Places for public Magazines and 
Stores as are now made Ufe of, for Jo long Time as 
both Houfcs Jhall think fit to make Vfe of them for the 
xece/Jary Defence of the Kingdom. 

2. His Jwajejly doth likewife accept of fuch Com- 
penfation for thofe legal growing Revenues and Pro- 
fits of the Crown which he hath or Jhall confent to 
part withM, for the Satisfaction of both Houfes in 
this Treaty, in fuch Manner and Proportion as Jhall 
be agreed upon between his Majefty and his two 
Houfes. 

3. His Majejly is well pie afed that he be fettled in 
a Condition of Honour, Freedom, and Safety, agree- 
able to the Laws of the Land. 

4. And he doth confent to an Aft of Oblivion and 
Indemnity to be pafs'd, to extend to all Perfons for all 
Matters, with fuch Limitations and Pravifions as ft) all 
be agreed between him and his two Houfes of Parlia- 
ment, 

5. And his Majejly ivitl farther confent, that it be 
declared by Acl of Parliament, that nothing in his 
Jl / fajp/?y's Propojitions Jhall be made Ufe of to abro- 
gate, weaken, or anywife impair any Agreement in this 
Treaty, or any Law, Grant, or Conceffion, agreed upon 
by his Majejly and his two Hovfes of Parliament in 
2wfuar.ce thereof. 

After 



of ENGLAND. 253 

-After reading thefe Papers the Commons pafled An. 24 . dr. I.' 
the following Votes : 

1. That the King's Anfwer, contained in a 
Paper of the 2ift Inftant, to the late Proportion 
concerning the Church, in all the Parts, except The K!ng . $ i aft 
wherein he has declared his Confcnt, is not fatif- Anfwer concern- 

fa&orv in 8 lhe chlt r cl1 

I4CLUI). voted unfatisfao 

2. ' That the Treaty be continued to Monday torft an a the 
Night, the ayth Inftant; and that the Commif- Treaty farther 
fioners be enjoined to come away the next Day, continucd ' 
with fuch final Anfwer as they {hall receive from 

the King to what remains.' 

The firft of thefe Refolutions pafs'd without a 
Divifion. The fecond was carried by a Majority 
of 94 againft 60 ; and the Lords having agreed to 
them both, they were ordered to be fent away to 
the Commiflioners with all Speed. 

The fame Day, Nov. 24, a Letter from the 
Lord- Admiral fvanutck^ dated Nov. 15, from 
aboard the St. George, riding off Hehoetjluys, was 
read in the Houfe of Commons ; giving an Ac- 
count of the State and Condition of the revolted 
Ships ; defiring Pay for the Mariners that had fub- 
mitted, and alfo a Gratuity of two Months for 
fuch as had been inftrumental in procuring that 
Submiffion. Hereupon the Houfe refolved to raife The Commoai 
20,000 /. upon the Credit of the Cuftoms, for the OTder *o,oooj: 
Service of the Fleet. ^r.heFle, 

Nov. 25. The Commons refolved, That James And commit the 

[Duke of Hamilton] Earl of Cambridge be remo- Dukeo ^ Hiimi ^ 
j r J/T-L j i r, , r r /i ton to Wmdiee- 

ved from Ajhby de la Zoitcb, in Leicefterjhire^ (where Caftlc. 

he had been in Cuftody of the Lord Grey) and that 
he be committed clofe Prifoncr, bv Order of that 
Houfe, to Jf^tndfor-Caftle^ for HighTreafon in bring- 
ing in a foreign Army to invade this Kingdom, and 
levying actual War therein ; and that it be referred 
to the Lord-General Fairfax^ to take Care for the 
bringing and delivering him fafely into the Cuftody 
of the Governor of FrinJfir-CaJflt, to be there 
4 kept 




November. 



A Letter from 
Col. Hammond, 
inclofuig 



The Parliamentary HISTORY 

kept clofe Prifoner accordingly. It may be re- 
membered that, on the loth of this Month, ths 
Commons had refolved to inflict a Fine of 
roo,ooo/. upon the Duke of Hamilton^ to which 
the Lords not giving their Concurrence, probably^ 
occafioned this peremptory Vote of the other 
Houfe. 

Nov. 27. A Letter from Co!. Hammond, Go- 
vernor of the IJle of Wight^ brought up by Major 
Cromwell^ was read. 

For the Right Hon. the Earl of MA tf CHESTER, 
Speaker of. the Houfe of PEERS pro Tempore, at 
Wcftnimfter. 

. JL* j- , Carhbrooke-Caflle^ Nov. 26, 1648. 

HAving lately received this inciofed Letter 
from his Excellency the Lord Fairfax^ I 
thought it my Duty to acquaint your Lc rdfhip 
with it ; and to let you know the General having 
"Authority of Parliament for the commanding of 
all the Forces in this Kingdom, and I having 
no pofitive Inftructions from the Parliament for 
my conftant Abode here, or other of Force at 
this prefent, fave only to take Care that there be 
a fufficient Guard for the Safety of the Iflancl, 
and to hinder the taking away of the King's 
Perfon from hence ; upon moft ferious C.onfide- 
ration, finding no Way to avoid it, J refolved it 
my Duty to give as fpeedy Obedience to it as the 
Duty I owe to your Commands and Services 
would permit. 

' I expected before this to have feen Col. Ewer, 
by whofe Hands this inciofed fhould have been 
conveyed unto you ; but he failing, and my Let- 
ter being pofitive for my fpeedy Repair to the 
General, I refolve, fo foon as I can fettle, the beft 
I may, the Soldiers and Inhabitants of this liland 
for the beft Advantage of your Service, to take 
my Journey to the Head Quarters ; where I fhall 
be ready to receive your Lordftiip's Commands, 
5 'if 



of E N G L A N D. 255 

* if they come to me before my Return, which I '.An. 24 Car, I. 
' propofe (God willing) (hall "be the next Hour t l *&- J 

* after his Excellency (hall pleafe to difmifs me j Novcmbtr. 

* if I do not before that Time receive your Lord- 

* {hip's Difcharge of my unhappy Employment, 
' which I again moft humbly and heartily beg of 
' you. If your Lordfhip pleafe to certify your 

* Pleafure to me by this Bearer, it (hall, to the 

* utmoft of my Ability, be obferved as becomes him, 

* who muft ever fubfcribe himfelf, 

Tour Lord/trip's moft faithful Servant, 

R. HAMMOND. 

Next was read the Letter from the Lord-Ge- 
neral to Col. Hammond. 

SIR, St. Man's, Nov. 21, 1648. 

* T Have received your Letter of the igth of this Another from 

* * Inftant, whereby I apprehend your great Dif- Lord Fairfax, n 
fatisfaftion, Trouble, and Burthen in relation to unP * e 

* your prefent Employment, and fome other Things 
'which hath occasioned your Addrefs to the 

* Houfes ; therefore I defire before you refolve quit- 
6 ting your Truft, even with all poffible Speed, 
' to repair to me, becaufe I have fomewhat to com- 

* municate to you of a very public Concern j and 
< doubt not likewife, upon a true Underftanding of 
'Things, you may receive that Satisfaction which 
' will encourage you to continue your Charge. I 
have herewith fent Colonel Ewer, the fitteft Per- 
fon I could think of, to take Care of the Ifland 
' till you return, and therefore fay the lefs becaufe 

* I expert fo foon to fee you. 

Tour very affeftionate Friend, 

FAIRFAX. 

When thefe Letters were read in the Houfc of 
Commons, feveral Members took great Offence at 
the Lord -General's Behaviour, declaring they 
Would by no Means-.confent that Colonel Hammond- 

ftould 



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Parliamentary 



Am 54 Car. I. fhould leave the JJle of Wight, 



r s T b ft V 

To which it was 



6 * 8 ' 






Debate there- 
upon, 



anfsyered by the Independents, ' That this was 
not a Time to give the Army any Caufe of Diftafte 
or Jealoufy : That, fince the General had fent for 
Colonel Hammond to confult with him, it would 
be taken as an Affront, if the Houfe fhould lay any 
contrary Commands upon him, and feem to b 
done on purpofe to exafperate the Army, by ob- 
ftru&ing their Poceedings, and as it were to a- 
bridge the General of exercifing Command over 
his inferior Officer.' To this it was replied, ' That 
the giving the Charge of the King, at this Time^ 
to any new Perfon, would prove a greater Caufe 
of Jealoufy to the People, concerning his Majefty's 
Safety : That the requiring Colonel Hammond to 
continue his Command, and not to give up his 
Charge to another, could not be interpreted an 
Affront to the Army, or an Intent to abridge the 
General in point of Command, becaufe Colonel 
Hammond, as Guardian of the King's Perfon, was 
intruded not only by the Houfes, and by Ordinance 
of Parliament, but alfo by Patent under the Great 
Seal ; and therefore he ought not to give up his 

Char 8 e to an 7 other > kut ty Confent of Parlia- 
rnent.' To this nothing was anfwered j and the 
inue his Charge Refult was fo fend away, with all Expedition, the 
tleifleffV/Vht followin g Anfwers to the Letters from Colonel 
f ' Hammond, and the Lord-General, figned by the 
Speakers of both Houfes. 
And firft that to the Colonel : 

S I R, Wejlmmjler, Nov. 27, 1648. 

<^yOUR Letter of the 26th Inftant, directed 

* - to the Speaker of the Houfe of Lords, hath 

* been read in both Houfes ; whereby you inti- 

* mate you have received a Letter from the Lord- 

< General Fairfax, importing his Defire for your 

* fpeedy Repair unto him, and that Colonel Ewer 
( was by him appointed to take the Charge of the 

* Ifiand in your Abfence ; the Houfes of Parliament 
' have taken into ferious Confideration the Matter of 

< the Lord-General's Letter, and your Letter there-' 

' upon 



mondto cond 



^ENGLAND. 2;7 

c upon, and finding the Affairs of that Ifland, in ^n. 24 Car. j. 

* relation to the Treaty, and their inftru&ions ^ |<H 8 - 

' eiven unto you concerning the fame, in fuch a ""November ^ 
' Pofture as that they cannot poflibly difpenfe with 
' your perfonal Attendance upon that Charge, have 

* commanded us to let you know, that it is their 

* Pleafure, and they do accordingly enjoin you to 
' refide there, and to demean you rfelf according to 
' the Truft repofed in you by the faid Houfes, and 
' their Inftru6Hons formerly given unto you, untill 

* you {hall receive further Order from the faid 

< Houfes } and they have fignified their Pleafure 

< therein to the General, This is all at prefent that 
is commanded us. 

Tour Aft&imtate Friends, &c. 

The ANSWER of both Hoitfs to the Lord FAIRFAX^ 

My Lord, Wejlmlnjier, Nov. 27, 1648. 

' ' ^ H E Houfes being acquainted, by a Letter 
' JL from Col. Hammond, dated the 26th of 

* this Inftant, of your Excellency's Define that he 

* fhould fpeedily repair unto you, have command- 

* ed us to let you know that they cannot poflibly 

* difpence with his Abfence from his Charge in ths 

* Ifland, in regard of the Inftru&ions he hath re- 
' ceived from both Houfes concerning the Safety of 
' the 'Kind's Perfon, and the Security of that Place; 
' and therefore they defire you not to expect his 
' fudden Repair to you, nor to appoint Col. EVJCT^ 

* or any other, to take the Charge of the Illar.d x 

* untill the Pleafure of both Houfes be further fij- 

* nined unto you ; and fo we remain, 

Your Lcrdfiip* s affcftionate Fi lends, &c. 

A Letter was alfo ordered to be written to the 
Lord-Admiral, requiring him to fend lome Ships 
to the Ifle of Flight, for 'the Defence i>.nd Safety 
of that Place, \vitn D redlions to obey the Com- 
of Col. Hammond. 

VOL. XVU, R .V.r. 



Col 



1 5$ *Tbe Parliamentary HISTORY 

AA. 24 Car. I. Nov. 29. Several Papers relating to an intended 

, . , Removal of the King's Perfon from Newport, were 

* November. tnis Day read in the Houfe of Lore's, inclofed in the 
following Letter from Col. Hammond, addreis'd to 
the Earl of Mancbejltr, their Speaker. 

Newport, Nov. 28, 1648. 
My Lord, 

Letters and other * Q Ince my laft to you, Col. Ewer is come into 
HaSmonT - ' 3 this Ifland - At his Coming, I demanded of 
fating to-the Ge- him to know what Inftructions he had, and from 
Bend's Order re- c w h om , fcecaufe, though I held myfelf obliged 

quiring him to c i. t / i* /w j 

give up the to bey the General s Commands in going to 

charge of the * him, yet I had a Truft upon me from the Par- 
*'l* >ei ^ on Q ' liament, no ways, as I conceived, relating to 
' the General or the Army, which I muft b 
4 faithful unto, to the utmoft of my Power, and 
' careful, as much as in me lies, that the Parlia- 

* ment and Kingdom's Services might not be pre- 

* Judiced in my Abfence. He produced a Letter, 

* figned by "John Rujhworth, in the Name and Be- 
6 half of the General Council of the Army, order- 

* ing him to come hither; and if in cafe I fhould, ac- 
4 cording to the Commands of the General, repair 

* to the Head Quarters, then he to fecure the Per- 
' fon of the King in Cari/brooke-Caftle, or other- 
' wife as he fhould think fit ;, and in cafe I fhould 
' refufe, then- to do as God fhould direct him, gt- 
' ving him Power to raife other Forces ; and if he 
1 fhould fo fecure him, if he found any Hazard in 

* being here, to give them Notice, and to bring 

* ttve King over the Water. This was the Sub- 

* ftance (to the beft of my Remembrance) of his 

* faid Inftruclions, to which I gave him Anfwer 

* to this Effedl:, That I knew none whatever had 
' Authority over me as a Soldier but the General, 

* except the Parliament ; neither did I hold myfelf 

* obliged, or would I give Obedience to any other 

* Authority or Perfon whatfoever : But that to the 

* Matter of his Directions, as I conceived, I ought 
not to give Obedience to any fave the Parliament 



of E N G L A N 0. 259 

* alone, who had intruded me, and only had An. 24 cr. 2, 

* Power fo to do ; but rather plainly told him, that . l648 ' 
' if he, or any other, fhould fo proceed to violate 

' my Inftrudtions from the Parliament, whilft I 
' continued fo in Truft, I held myfelf 'bound in 

* Confcience, Honour, and Duty to oppofe them 

* to my utmoft ; and accordingly, God aflifting 

* me, I refolved to do. T*his was the Subftafice 

* of my Artfwer, upon which he is refolved forth- 

* with to go along with me to the Head Quarters. 
' This I hold my Duty to acquaint your Lordmip 

< with, and alfo what Order I have taken in my 
Abfence for the preventing of fuch Practices as 
' you will perceive^ by the inclofed Directions and 
e Inftructions, (which I affure your Lordmip is the 

* All in my Power to do) that upon the Confidera- 

< tion of it, your Lordmip may take fuch further 

* Order in an Affair of fuch high Concernment as 

* to your Wifdom fhall feem beft. Whatever the 

* Event be, I can fay with the Teftimony of a 
good Confcience, that in this whole weighty Bu- 

* fmefs, which hath now more than twelve Months 

* lain upon me, I have, as in the Prefence of 
' God^ faithfully and honeftly difcharged my Truft 
' to the beft Advantage of your Service, and not 

* more in any Thing than in this ; and if for a 

< Reward for it, and all other Hazards, Labour, 

* and Blood I have undergone and fpent in your 
' Service, I may now receive a Difcharge from 

< you of that Burthen, fo much too heavy for me, 1 
I (hall reft fully fatisned, blefs my God, thank 
4 your Lordmip, and be further obliged tcf be, 

< what I muft ever be, 

My Lord, 

Tour Lord/hlfs mojf faithful Servant, 

R. HAMMOND. 

P. S. ' Since the Writing hereof I received tb 

< Original to thefe two Copies inclofed.' 

R 2 ft 



260 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

n. 44. Car. 1. 71) Colonel ROBERT HAMMOND, Governor of the 
l6 * 8 - t IJle of Wight, or to Col EWER, or to the Chief 

November. Commander of the Forces there, 

' \\7Hereas *"s Excellency the Lord-General, 
' ** and the General Council of Officers, 

* have prefcnted a Remonftrance to the Houfe of 
' Commons, fetting forth the Danger and Evil of 

* the prefent Treaty ; and deiiring, amongft other 

* Things, that the Perfon of the King may be 
4 proceeded againft in a due Way of Juftice ; and 

* the Houfe having as yet given no Anfwer or Re- 
' folution thereupon ; to the end therefore that, by 
c his Efcape in the mean Time, the Confideration 
' of the faid Deftres, or any Reafons thereof, may 

* not be fruftrated, you are hereby defired and re- 
c quired, upon the Receipt hereof, immediately to 

* fecure the Perfon of the King in Canjbrooke- 

* Co/He, in fuch Condition as before the Treaty ; 
' and that you continue him fo fecured untill fome 

* Refolution from the Parliament in Anfwer to 
' the faid Remonftrance, or otherwife as you fliall 
c receive further Orders from his Excellency the 
' Lord-General. 

By the Appointment of his Excellency the Lord- 
General and Council of Officers, held at Wind- 
for, Nov. 25, 1648. 

JOHN RUSHWORTH, Sec. 

For Colonel H A M M o N D, Governor of the Jfle 

of Wight. 
SIR, 

rH E Providence of God, together with th? 
Senfe i'.e hiith been pleafed. to fet upon our 
Hearts concerning the Condition of Affairs in the 
Kingdom, in relation to the Treaty, hath led us 
to v nr-pare and prefent a Remonftrance to the 
Houfe of Commons, which we fend herewith to 
you : -We have found a general Concurrence 
of the fame Tiling, throughout the Amy, and 
feveral Counties t and we dcfire, as the Rsmon- 

ftrance, 



of E NG LAND. 

ftrance, and the Things contained therein, {haft 
clofe with what God hath fet upon your Hearts, 
which we doubt not of that you will, in a pub- 
lic Way, exprefs to the General you and your 
Forces Approbation thereof and Concurrence 
therein. 

By the Appointment of the General Council of Of- 
ficers, held at Windfor, Nov. 25, 1648.' 

JOHN RUSHWORTH, Sec. 

Next were read Copies of Col. Hammond's Or- 
ders and Inftru&ions to Capt. Bowcrman, Major 
Rolph, and Capt. Howes, for the Safety of the ifle 
of Wight and the Care of the King's Perfon, 
which run thus : 

Hereas his Excellency the Lord-General 
hath commanded my fpeedy Attend- 

* ance at the Head Quarters, in order to which 

* Commands I refolve forthwith to begin my Jour- 

* ney ; thefc are therefore to dcfire, order, and ap- 

* point you, the faid Capt. Bowerman, Major Ralph, 
c and Capt. Howes, to take Care of the Pefon of 
' the King and this Ifland, according to the annex - 

< ed Inftru&ions from both Houfes, directed to me, 

< and thefe following in purfuance of them ; and 
you, or any two of you, are hereby authorized 
' to act accordingly untill my Return, or that you 
' receive other Directions from the Parliament. 
c I have alfo cleared and appointed the two Regi- 

< ments of Train'd Bands of this Ifland to be af- 
6 fitting unto thefe Ends ; and do hereby further 
' require all other Officers and Soldiers of the Ar- 
4 my in this Ifland, and of thofc two Companies 
c raifed in this Ifland for the Defence of it ; like- 
wife all Captains and Governors of Forts and 

< Caftles in this Ifland ; as alfo all Captains and 
c Officers of Ships, appointed for the Guard of 
' this Ifland, to obferve your Directions in order 
' to the Ends aforefaid. 

R 3 I. < That 



26l 



November. 



'* you 

* Peri 



Parliamentary H i ^r p ^ y 

, I. * That you endeavour to the utmoft, by all 
lawful Ways and Means, to preferve the Peace 

November. of this -^ and - 

II. '' That if any Perfon whatfoever, under 
e what Pretence foevcr, fh:-'l endeayour the remo T 

* ving the Perfcn of the King out of this Ifland, 
' unleft by direct Order of the Parliament, that 

you refift, and, to the utmoft, oppofe any fuch 
rfons , and that you ufe your beft Endeavours 

* {o fecure the Perfon of the King from being ta- 
ken out of this Ifland, according to the annexed 

* Instructions of Parliament directed to me, untill 
5 the Parliament fhall farther order, 

III. ' That you fuffer no Perfons whatfoever in 
f this Ifland in fuch Numbers as may endanger the 

* Peace of it, or the Violation of the annexed Or- 
' ders of Parliament. 

IV. ' That, if Occafion fhall require, you give 

* Notice and call to your Ailiftanca the Train'd 
> Bands, or, if you fee Caufe, all other the Inha- 

* bitants of this Ifland, who are inftruted to that 

* Purpofe, according to the Ends of thefe and the 

* annexed Inftru6tion$ of Parliament. 

Y. ' That, in order to the Ends aforefaid, you 
f give Orders and cammand all Officers and Sol- 

* diers of the Army, now in the Ifland, the two 

* Companies lately raifed in this Ifland, all Cap- 
tains and Governors of Forts and Caftles in this 

* Ifland, all Ships riding before it, all Boats and 

* Barges belonging to it, or on the other Side the 
f Water, as you fhall fee Caufe. 

VI. c That you act and do all other Things that 
t of right appertain and belong to me as Captain 
' and Governor of this Ifland, in order to the Ends 

* aforefaid, untill my Return, or you receive Or- 
1 ders from the Parliament. 

G'^^n under iny Hand and Seal the 2jtb Day of 
November, 1648. 

RO. HAMMOND. 

Annex'd to thefe was a Copy of the Ir.ftruftions 
from both Houfcs to Col. Hammond, dated Au- 



*f ENGLAND. 263 

gujl 24, 1648, which being already given at large An< *4Car. I. 

in our Seventeenth Volume, p. 41 4 3 are unnecefTary ^__ f 

to be repeated. Nv*mbr. 

Next follow Col. Hammond's Inftru&ions to Sir 
Robert Dillington? Bart, and Sir John 'Leigh? Com- 
manders of the two Regiments of Trajn'd Bands in 
the Ifle of Wight? requiring them, to aflift Capt. 
Bovoermtm\ Major Rolph, and Capt. Howes in pre* 
ferving the Peace of that Ifland, and preventing the 
Removal of the King's Perfon from thence during 
the Governor's Abfence ; which being to the fame 
Effe& as thofe given to the laft-memion'd Gen- 
tlemen, we omit. 

The fame Day all the foregoing Papers were Which the Pat- 
prefented to the Commons ; and, after a Confe- y 
rence held thereupon, both Houfes agreed, That 
a Letter be written to the General, to acquaint 
him, that his Orders to Col. Ewer are contra- 
ry to the Resolutions of Parliament, and the In- 
ftru&ions given to Col. Hammondty both Houfes ; 
and to require him to recall the faid Orders, and to 
command Col. Hammond prefently to return back 
to his Charge in the Ifle of Wight. 

Nov. 30. A Letter from Major Cromwell? who 
had been lent to Col. Hammond with the Orders of 
both Houfes, forbidding him to leave the Ifle of 
Wight? inclolmg another from the Colonel him- 
felf, were read : Both thefe were addrefled to the 
Speaker of the Houfe of Lords. 

My lord? Wind fa Nov. 28, 1648. 

* f~^ Olonel Hammond? when I came from him, 
1 V_> refolved to be at the Head Quarters as lafl; 

* Night or this Morning, ami appointed me to 

* meet him there; upon which Confideration, ha- 

* ving received your Orders to be conveyed unto 

* him, I thought that to come this Way by the 
Head Quarters was the fureft Way not to mifs 

* h,im 3 in cafe he fliouM, according to h-is Pu r pofe, 

?v 4 he 



264 *Tbe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 2.4. Car. I, e be come away from the Ifland. Before I could 

^ l 4 | j "* get hither it was fomewhat late laft Night ; when 

November. ' 1 found Col. Hammond not come, I went hence, 

* intending to have got again into the Poft-Road, 
' and fo to have hafted on ; but having forgot to 
8 get the General's Pafs, which I did not know 

* before-hand to be fo needful, I was, for want of 
'.a Pafs, flayed and brought back by the Gentries 

* about the Head Quarters ; and the Caftie Gates 
'being {hut, 'and the Bridge drawn and lock'd, 

* and the Keys gone up to the Governor, fo as I 

* could not fend unto the General, was ftay'd here 
' till this Morning. I am now going with what 

* Speed I can, and hope the Time for your Orders 

* is not loft, Col. Hammond being not yet come 

* hither as he appointed, fo I prefume he has al- 
' ready altered his Purpofe fjnce my coming from 
* him. 

My Lord, 

%~<wr Lord/Jyip's muft humble Servant, 
H. CROMWELL. 

My Lord, Farnbam, Nov. 29, 1648. 

* TO Eing at Farnham, on my Journey to the 

* .O Head Quarters in Obedience to the Gene- 

* ra |'s Commands, I there met with your Lord- 

* ibip's Orders brought to me by Major Crom- 

* w*Jl, enjoining me to rcfide in the Ifle of Wight, 
' which I {hall yield immediate Obedience to, 

* by making my prefent Return thither ; though 

* I muft needs fay, with very great Sadnefe of 

* Heart, becaufe I had hoped and expected that, 

* accoiding .to my moft earn eft Defires, you would 
4 have been pleafed to have freed me from the grie- 

* vous Burthen I have been fo long preffcd under; 

* my Unfitnefs for which is fuch for many Rea- 

* fons, that I yet hope, upon your further Con fid e- 
? ration of me, you will pleafe to fet me at Li- 

* berty, it being fo much for the Advantage or" 

* your ,1/ordfhip's Affairs : This therefore I muft, 



of E N G L A N D. 265 

* ftill leave with your Lordftiips as the moft hearty An 24. Car. i. 
e Defire of , l64S " . 

Your Lord/hip's moft faithful Servant* November. 
' R. HAMMOND. 



to/, Nov. 29, 1648. 
P. S. * My Lord, this being written before my 

* Reftraint, {hould, with the laft Night's Letter, 

* have gone towards you ; but thofe under whofe 
' Cuftody I now am, did not, it feems, think fit to 
' let it pafs untill now. I have given you an Ac- 
' count of my Imprifonment in a Letter by another 
' Hand, which I hope is before this Time come 
' unto you.' 

The fame Day, Nov. 30, a Letter from the The Lord Fair- 
Lord Fairfax, which, Mr. Whitlocke fays, was ^^^ 
deem'd very high and unbefeeming, was reported Force*. 
to the Houfe of Commons from the Committee of 
the Army ; wherein his Lordfhip took Notice, 
That they intended not to furnifli him with any 
Money for Contingencies, which of Neceffity muft 
be had for Pay of Meflengers, and other daily and 
incident Charges of the Army ; and therefore he 
muft be forced to take Money for this Purpofe out 
of the Collectors and Receivers Hands, where he 
could find it, if fpeedy Courfe were not taken to 
fupply him : Hereupon it was ordered, That the 
Committee of the Army do take fuch Courfe for 
the Pay of their Arrears as they (hall think fit, for 
their Satisfaction. 

Both Houfes of Parliament and the City of Lon- The Commons 
don were now alarmed with the Report of ano- defcr the tonf " 
ther Vifit from the Army ; notwithstanding which J^ 
the Commons were fo refolute as to put the Nega- monftrance. 
tive upon a Motion for taking into Confideration 
the late Remonftrance from the General and his 
Council of War, by a Majority of 125 Voices 
againft 58 (b). 

When 

(b) mit'ode and Rufiwtrtb fay, That the Queftion pafs'd in the 
Negative by near 90 Voices j but the Numbers and as above in the 
Journali. 



266 ne Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 4 Car. I. When this laft-mntioned Remonflrancewas pre- 

t l64-8< / fented to the Houfe of Commons on the 2oth of 

November. ^ ls Month, the Confideration of it was appointed 

for the ayth, on which Day it was ordered to be 

put off to the firft of December. Thefe repeated 

Delays gave great Difguft to the Army, and occa- 

fioned the following Declaration, by way of Appeal 

from the Houfe of Commons to the People. 

The DECLARATION of bis Excellency the Lord- 
General FAIRFAX and bis General Council of Of- 
ficers^ Jhetving the Grounds of tbe /hmy's Advance 
towards the City of London. 

Nov. 29, 1648. 

Wfceiwpon they ( T> King full of fad Apprehenfiorjs, concerning 
J3?3*? ' " t } ^ Danger and Evil of the Treaty with th? 
Refohition to ' King, and of any Accommodation with him, or 
< Reftitution of him thereupon, we did, by our late 
' Remonftrance, upon the Reafons and Grounds 

* therein exprefled, make our Application thereby 
' unto the prefent Houfe of Commons, that the 
' dangerous Evil of that Way might be avoided, 
' and the Peace of the Kingdom fettled upon more 
' righteous, fafe, and hopeful Grounds, viz. a more 

* equal difpenfing of Juftice and Mercy, in rela- 

* tion to Things done or fuffered in the late Wars, 

* and the eftablifhing of the future Government of 

* this Kingdom upon a fafe Succeflion and equal 
5 Conftitution of Parliaments ; and that for the 
4 ending of prefent, and avoiding of "future Diffe-^ 
' rences, tq be ratified by an Agreement and Sub- 

* fcription of the People thereunto. 

* This Courfe we took out of our tender Care 

* and earneft Defire that ail Ways of Extremity 

* might be avoided, and that thofe Matters of high*- 
' eft Concernment to the Public Intereft of this Na- 
' tionmi2;ht be purfued and provided for, if poffible, 
' by thofe whofe proper Work and Truft it was ; 

* and herein we are willing to hope, that the Per- 
* fons fo trufted, or the Majority of them, might 
4 poffibly have ben either driven into that deftruc-* 

* tive Way by forcrble Impulfion?, or lapfed there- 



dfENGLAND. 2.67 

* into through fomc Inconfideration, or Mifappre- An. 24 Car. 

* henfions and conceived Jealoufies ; and there- ^J^* 8 ' 

4 fore we did carefully decline the infilling upon jjovembtr. 

4 any thing that might continue or renew any for- 

4 mer Jealoufies or Animofities, and keep only to 

4 fuch Things as were of Neceffity or Advantage 

4 to the common Caufe, and of common and equal 

4 Concernment to thofe that have engaged in it ; 

4 which Things we preffed in the Way of Reafon 

4 and Perfuafion only, that they might be duly 

' and timely confidered : But, to our Grief, 

4 we find, inftead of any Satisfaction or reafon- 

4 able Anfvver thereto, they are wholly rejected 

* without any Confideration of them, whatever 

* Reafon or Juftice might be in the Things fet forth 

* or propounded therein : For what Icfs can be unr 
4 derftood, when the Things propounded were 
' mainly for the Avoidance of Evil appearing in 
4 the Treaty with the King ? and yet they put off 
' the Confideration of them, till there fhould be 
4 no Place for any Confideration at all. Firft, Jay- 
' ing it afide till Monday laft, by which Time the 

* Treaty, as then fuppofed, would have been con- 
' eluded ; but that failing, and two Days more be- 
4 ing added to the Treaty, the Confideration of 

* our Remonftrance, on the Day appointed, was 
4 waved and laid afide; the Treaty, in the mean 
4 while, going on in the former Way and Terms, 
4 and like to be concluded the very next Day. 

4 Now, though we are f:ir from that Prefump- 
? tion, that the Things (hould therefore be an- 

* fwered and confidered, becaufe propounded by 

* us, fave for the Reafon, Juftice, or public Con- 
4 cernment therein, yet having no Anfwer, or any 
4 Thing fhevved us tQ the contrary, we cannot 

* but, upon the Grounds remonftrated, and many 
4 more which might be added, remain confident 
4 in our former Apprehenfions concerning them ; 
4 and feeing the prevailing Part of thofe to whom, 
4 we did apply, have, as it were, their Eyes wil- 
4 fully {hut, and Ears ftopt againft any Thing of 
4 Light or Reafon offered to them, we find no 

4 Place 



268 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. { Place left for our former charitable or hopeful 

^^ ' Apprehenfions concerning their Error in fuch 

November ' ev ^ Ways ; but remain fully aflured of the Qan- 

' ger and deftru&ivenefs thereof, as to all thofe 

' Public Ends for which they were entrufted, and 

' alfo of the juft Advantage and Neceflity which 

' lie in the Things we have propounded and in- 

* fift on. We now fee nothing left to which their 

* engaging and perfifHng in fuch Ways, and Re- 

* jeftion of thefe better Things propounded, can 
' rationally be attributed, lefs than a treacherous 

* or corrupt Neglect of, and Apoftacy from, the 

* Public Truft repofed in them ; although we 

* could wifh from our Souls we might yet find the 
' contrary ; neverthelefs we do not in thefe Things 
' afTume a ftanding Power of Judgment, as of 
' Right or Truft, to conclude others thereby ; ac- 

* knowledging that to lie moft properly in thofe 
' whom the People duly chufe and truft to judge 

* for them ; but on the Confideration that fuch 
c Power, where it is committed, is but in Truft, and 

* that neither this nor any other People did ever 

* give up their natural Capacities of common Senfe, 

* or Reafon as to the Ends and Fundamentals of 

* that Truft ; and that, as to the Breach of fuch 

* Truft, there is no higher formal Power of Man in 

* being to appeal unto for Judgment. In fuch Cafe, 

* as all others concerned in fuch Breaches of Truft 
' will, fo we cannot but, exercife that com- 

* mon Judgment which, in our natural Capacities, 
' is left to us : And though, in fmaller Failures of 
' fuch Truft, which might be borne without Ha- 
zard of Deftruftion to that Intereft and" thofe 

* People, for which efpecially the Truft is j or 

* where the Truftees were of an indifferent equal 

* Conftitution in reference to the whole; or where 
' we had an orderly and open Way left for a juft 

* Succeflion of another formal and proper Judica- 

* ture to be appealed unto in due Time, we fhould 
' not oppofe or hold forth our private Judgments 
to the leaft Disturbance of that orderly and peace - 

* able Courfe of Judgment fo eftabliftied j yet, in 

' our 



of ENGLAND. 269 

' our prefent Cafe we are fo fully convinced of the An. 24 car. I. 

* Greatnefs and Deftrudlivenefs of thofe Evils we l64 *' t 
' have declared againft, and of the Neceflity and Nvemba-. 

* Effentiality of thofe better Things we have de- 

* fired and propounded, and how inconfiftent it is 
' with the Public Truft and Fundamental Ends of 
f it, ftill to purfue the one and reject the other, as- 
4 'that we dare, with Confidence, appeal therein to 
c the common Judgments of indifferent and un- 

* corrupted Men, and to the more righteous Judg- 
' ment of God above all. 

' And as the Incompetency of this Parliament, 
' in its prefent Conftitution, to give an abfolute 

* and conclufive Judgment for the whole, efpeci- 

* ally to be the fole Judges of their own Perform- 
' ance of Breach of Truft, doth make the jufter 
e Way for fuch an Appeal ; fo indeed we fee no 
e other Way left for Remedy, in regard the pre- 
' fent unlimited Continuance of this Parliament 
' doth exclude the orderly Succeffion of any other 
' more equal formal Judicature of Men, to which 
c we might hope, in due Time, otherwife to ap- 

* peal. 

' Thus, when we apprehend ourfelves in the 

* prefent Cafe both neceffitated to, and juftified in, 
*an Appeal from this Parliament, in the prefent 
' Conftitution as it ftands, unto the extraordinary 
' Judgment of God and good People ; and yet, 

* in the Profecution of this Appeal, as we {hall 
' drive it on but to the fpeedy obtaining of a more 

* orderly and equal Judicature of Men in a juft 

* Rcprefentative, according to our Remonftrance; 

* wherein to acquiefce fo in the prefent procuring 

* of Juftice with the People's Eafe and Quiet, and 

* in the fettling of the Kingdom upon a due, fafe, 

* and hopeful Succeffion of Parliaments, ic is our 

* Hearts Defire, and (hall be our Endeavour, that 

* fo much, both of the Matter and Form, of the 

* prefent Parliamentary Authority may be prcfcr- 

* ved, as can be fafe, or will be ufeful to thofe 

* Ends, untill a juft and fnll Conftitution thereof, 

I < both 



'The Parliamentary HISTORY 

c both for Matter and Form, fuitable to the Publ& 

' Ends it ferves for, can be introduced. 

November. * And therefore, firjl^ it fhculd be our great Re* 

* joicing, If God faw it good, that the Majority 
6 of the prefent Houfe of Commons were become 
c fenfible of the Evil and Deftructivenefs of their 
.' late Way, and would refolvedly and vigoroufly 
1 apply themfelves to the fpeedy Execution of 
4 Juftice, with the righting and eafing of the op- 
c prefs'd People, and to a juft and fafe Settlement 

* of the Kingdom upon fuch Foundations as have 
' been propounded by us and others for that Pur- 

* pofe ; and would, for the fpeedier and furer Pro- 

* fecution of thefe Things, exclude from Commu- 

* nication in their Councils, all fuch corrupt and 
" apoftatiz'd Members as have appeared hitherto 

* but to obftrucl: and hindei fuch Matter of Juftice, 

* Safety, and Public Intereft, and to pervert their 

* Councils a contray Way, and have therein for 
4 fhamefully both falilfied and forfeited their Truft, 

* But, however, if God fliall not fee it good to 

* vouchfafe that Mercy to them and the Kingdom, 

* we fhall, fecoftdly^ defire, That fo many of them 
' as God hath kept upright, and fhall touch with 
' a juft Senfe of thofe Things, would, by Protefta- 
' tion, acquit themfelves from fuch Breach of 

* Truft, and approve their Faithfulnefs, by with^ 
' drawing from thofe that perfift in the Guilt there - 
' of; and would apply themfelves to fuch a Pofture, 
4 whereby they may fpeedily profecute thofe necef- 

* fary and Public Ends, without fuch Interruptions, 
' and Depravations of their Councils from the reft, 

* to their endlefs Trouble, Opprefiion, and Hazard 

* of the Kingdom, as formerly ; and for fo many 

* of them, whofe Hearts God fhall flir up thus to 
' do, we fhall therein, in this Cafe of Extremity, 

* look upon them as Perfons having materially the 

* chief Truft of the Kingdom remaining in them j 

* and tho' not a formal ftanding Power to be con- 

* tinued in them, or drawn into ordinary Prece- 

* dents, yet the beft and moft rightful that can bs 



$f ENGLAND, 271 

* had, as the prefent State and Exigence of Affairs An 24 c 

* now ftand ; and we (hall accordingly own them, 

* adhere to them, and be guided by them in their 

* faithful Profecution of that Truft, in order unto, 
' and untill the introducing of, a more full and for- 
' mal Power in a juft Reprefentative to be fpeedily 
' endeavouredi 

* Now, yet further, to take away all Jealoufies 
c in relation to ourfelves, which might with-hold 
f> any honeft Members from this Courage, as we 
c have the Witnefs of God in our Hearts, that, in 

* thefe Proceedings, we do not feek, but even re- 

* folve we will not take, Advantages to ourfelves, 

* either in point of Profit or Power ; and that if" 
' God did open unto us a Way, wherein, with 

* Honefty and Faithfulnefs to the Public Intereft 

* and good" People engaged for us, we might pre- 

* fently be difcharged, fo as we might not, in our 

* prefent Employments, look on, and be acceflary 
to, yea Supporters of, the Parliament in the pre- 

* fent corrupt, oppreflive, and deftru&ive Proceed- 
' ings, we fliould, with Rejoicing, and without 
' more ado, embrace fuch a Difcharge, rather than 
4 interpofe in thefc Things to our own vaft Trouble 
' and Hazard ; fo if we could but obtain a rational 

* Affurance for the effe&ual Profecution of thefe 

* Things, we ihall give you any proportionable 
' Aflurance on our Parts, concerning our laying 

* down of Arms, when, and as we fhould be re- 

* quired : But for the prefent, as the Cafe ftands, 

* we apprehend ourfelves obliged in Duty to Qod 

* this Kingdon, and good Men therein, to 5m- 
' prove our utmoft Abilities, in all honeft Way?, 
' for the avoiding thefe great Evils we have remon- 
' ftrated, and for Profecution of the good Things 
4 we have propounded ; and alfo that fuch Perfons 
' who were the Inviteae of the late Invafion from 

* Scotland^ the Inftigators and Encouragers of the 
' latelnfurrections within this Kingdom, and, thofer 

* forcible Ways failing, have {till purfued the fam 

* wicked Defiyis, by treacherous and corrupt 

2 * Counfel, 



272 be Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. < Counfel, may be brought to public Jufticei ao 

1648. ^ < cor( ]j n g to their feveral Demerits. For all thefe 

December * Ends we are now drawing up with the Army to 

< London, there to follow Povidence as God (hall 

' clear our Way. 

By the Appointment of bis Excellency the Lord- 
General and Council of Officers. 

]. RUSHWORTH. 

TheCommif- December I. The Commiflioners being now come 
hom" dre- back from thclfle of Wight, this Day the Earl of 
fent to the Par- Northumberland deliver'd in to the Houfe of Lord's 
liament the reft (Ji vers Papers concerning the Treaty. 
Jatlng to th t6 ' T ne firft Paper was to acquaint the Parliament 
Treaty. that, on the 23d of November, the Commiflioners 

had prefentcd to the King the Votes and Refolu- 
tions of the ift, the jth, the gth, and 2ift 4 in con- 
feqiflence of his Anfwer to the Proportion con- 
cerning Delinquents ; (which we have given under 
their proper Dates) and that to thefe they having 
ciefired his Majefty's Confent, he gave this general 
Anfwer : 

. Newport, Nov. 24, 1648. 
CHARLES R. 

an dnfwer to you as to your Paper of the 
of November, containing the Votes and 
jR.eJblutions of both Hmifes concerning Delinquents^ 
fys Majejiy faith, That he is well plcafed to find 
thereby that the two Houfes have lejfened the Extent 
of their former Proportion in the feveral Particu- 
lars exprefs'd in the f aid Fates ; but fence his Ma- 
jejiy and his two Houfes have now agreed* that an 
Aft of Oblivion and Indemnity Jhall pafs, to extend 
to all Perfons for all Matters, with fitch Limita- 
tions and Provijions as Jhall be agreed upon, his Ma-? 
jefly conceives, that the fubjecJ Matter of thofe Votes 
and Refolutions will, upon drawing up of the [aid 
jfcf, mojl properly come in Debate ; and therefore 
deffrei that his farther Anfwer may be refpited un- 
till that Time. 

The 



^ENGLAND. 273 

.?&< COMMISIOXERS REPLY to the foregoing. An. 4 Car.r. 

Newport, Nov. 24, 1648. < v ' 

* \\1 Hereas your Majefty, in Anfwer to but l CTj 
' VV Paper of the 13d Inftant, containing the 

' Votes and Relblutions of the Houfes of Parlia- 
c meat upon your Majefty's former Anfwer to their 

* Propofition concerning Delinquents, is pleafed to 
' fay, That you conceive the Jubjefl Matter of thefe 
' Votes and Refolutions will properly come in Debate 

* upon drawing up the A ft of Oblivion ; and there- 
' fore defer e your farther Anfwer may be refpitcd till 
4 that Time ; we humbly fay, That this is no An- 
1 fwer to what is defired, as Part off this Treaty, 
1 but a putting it of to another Time; and, as we 
f humbly Conceive^ that which is moft proper to 
' be agreed 6"n before the drawing up of that Act, 

* in regard the Houfes, in their Anfwer to your 
' Majefty's Propofition, for fuch an Act, have de- 

* clared, That it be efpecially provided, that no- 

* thing in your Majefty's Propofitions of which 
' this Act or Oblivion is one, (hall any way weaken 

* or impair any Agreement in this Treaty : Where- 

* fore we humbly pray your Majefty's Confent to 

* our Paper Yefterday delivered, concerning thofe 1 
k Votes and Refolutions.' 

[Signed by the Commijffioners.] 

His M A j E s T Y'S Final A N s \v E fc concerning 
DELINQUENTS. 

Newport, Nov. 2*, 1648. 

CHARLES . 

TpO R a final Anfwer to you, as to your PC'.' 
* of the lyi of November Injlant^ and the Vcttt 
therein mentioned concerning Delinquents, his AAV- 
jejly faith, That tbcitgh the Matter of that Pc$tr 
might more properly have came in Debate npcn drain- 
ing up the Aft of Oblivion, and the Limitations end 
Prcvifeons therein , as in his former Paper is ex- 
prefs'd ; yet, to evidence his Defire cf Corr.pliana 
ivi'h his two Hoitfes, as well in Circum/lames, a 

VOL. XVIII. S 



274 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. 1- in all other Matters of this Propofeiion, fo far as 
t I " with Honour and Conference he can, his wlajefty 
December, farther faith, T*W he doth agree that Sir John 
Strangways Jhall be taken out of the Propofetion con- 
cerning Delinquents : And that thofe Perfons named 
in the firjl Branch of the Proportion, which are 
Protcjlants, Jhall be admitted to Compojition : And 
that all Papifls and Popijh fcecufants, who haw 
been, and now are actually in Arms, or voluntarily 
ajji/iing againjl the Parliament, (except thofe who 
have had any Hand in the plotting, defegtiing, or af- 
fijling the Rebellion in Ireland) yW/ be admitted to 
Compojition : And his Majejly doth confent, 'That the 
feveral Perfons comprifed in the faid Propofttion^ 
Jhall fubmit to moderate Compofetion, according to 
fuch Rates and Proportions as they and the two 
Houfes Jhall agree upon', the Particulars whereof 
his Majejly leaves wholly to fuch Agreement; defiring 
only that the Rates and Values may be mitigated and re- 
duced to a more moderate Proportion. 

His Majejly will alfo give ^vay that the Perfons in- 
Jifted upsn by his two Houfes in the firjl Branch of 
this Proportion, foall be removed from his Councils^ 
and be retrained from coming within the Verge of the 
King's, Queen s, or Prince's Court ; and that they 
may not hear any Office, or have any Employment in the 
State or Commvmvealtb, without Advice and Confent 
of both Houfes of Parliament : But his Majejly cannot 
hgree that thofe who do the contrary Jhall incur fuch fe- 
vere Penalties as to be guilty of High Treafon, and for- 
feit their Lives and EJlates without any Capacity of 
Pardon, as in the faid Propofetion 'is contained, there 
being a Penalty legally implied upon the Breach oj any 
Aft of Parliament, which his Majejly intends not to 
difpenfe witbalL 

As to the feven Perfons mentioned in the faid 
Votes to be excepted from Pardon, his Majejly, for 
the Peace of this Kingdom, will confent that they may 
a'jj'ent themfelves out of the Kingdom for fuch 'Timf 
as the two Houfes Jhall think fit ; defiring never- 
tbelejs that they may be admitted to Compofetions for 
their EJlates ; and if any of them Jhall be proceeded 

againjl 



ef ENGLAND. 

aga'nift according to the antient and ejlablijhed Laws of~ A - 24 Car 

this Kingdom, bis Majefty will not interpofe to hinder v l648 

any legal Proceedings thereupon ; but that his MajeJIy 
Jhould join in any Aft for the taking away the Life or 
Eftate of any that have adhered to him, or for the con- 
demning any of his own Party, bis Majefty cannot in 
Jtiflice and Honour agree thereunto. 

As to all other Perfons mentioned in your Proportion, 
his MajeJJy will farther lonfent that theyfkall not fit or 
vote as Members or AJJi/iants in either Houfes of Par- 
Hament, nor continue to be of his MajeJIy' s Cvuncil, 
Officers of State, er Judges, or in other Office, with- 
cut Confent of both Houfes. 

As for all Clergymen, ffgainjl whom fcandalous Life 
tqn be prayed, or other legal Charge, his MajeJIy will 
rmit them to the Law ; but for all others, who Jhall 
conform to what his MajeJJy and his two Houfes fiall now 
agree upsn, his MajeJIy conceives it fit, where their Li- 
vings are void, they may be reftoredto them ; and where 
any other is Incumbent in any of their Preferments, that 
the Party now outed of his Living, may receive a third 
Part of the Profits for his Maintenance, untill he be 
ctherwife preferred ; that thus the one may not want a 
Livelihood, nor the other be outed of any Living, untill 
fome fitting Preferment be found for either. 

And to all other Particulars his Majejly adheres to hit 
former Anfwers of the i jth of O6lober, 

The fecond Paper, dated the 25th of November, 
imported, that the Conimiffioners having delivered 
to the King the Vote of the joth of that Month, 
concerning New Delinquents, his Majefty returned 
the following Anfwer : 

Newport, Nov. 25, 1648. 
CHARLES . 

J?OR a final Anfwer to you, as to ysvr Pap.r of 
* the 2$th of this Mmth, concerning fuch Pct- 
fons as have engaged in the late War, face Janu iry 
1647, his Majpfty faith, Thai he will give way thai 
the Perfons intended in this Proportion may com- 

S 2 



276 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. 1. pound for their EJlates, as they and the two Houfes 
1648. Jball agree ; and leaves the Rates and Propyrtioris 
December f or f ^ e ^ m pf ltlon to f uc ^ Agreement, defiring tbay 
may be moderate. 

The next Paper recited the Vote of the loth of 
November, declaring his Majefty's Anfwer of the 
i ^th, concerning the Marquis of Ormond, unfa- 
tisfactory, which produced the two following 
Papers : 

His MAJESTY'S Final ANSWER concerning the 
Marquis of ORMOND. 

CHARLES R. New P ort > Nov - 2 5> 'M< 

TfO R a final Anfwer as to your Paper of the 25/4 
* Injlant, concerning the Proceedings of the Lord 
Ormond in Ireland, his Mnjejly faith, 'That he well 
hoped that by this 'Time fuch a happy Conclujion of 
this Treaty would have been made, thai, by his for- 
mer Anfwers, his two Houfes might have obtained 
what they dejired in this Particular * But offering 
himfelf that his large ConceJJions in this Treaty will, 
ere long, be the Foundation of a tleffed Peace^ his 
Majejly, to manifejl the CleaTncfs of his Intentions 
in that Matter, and to give his two ffoufes Satif- 
faflion, hath written, and delivers herewith unto 
you, his Letter to the Marquis of Ormond, ac- 
quainting him with fuch Informations as he hath re-* 
tei"Jed fr'om the two Houfes concerning his Proceed- 
ings in that Kingdom, and requiring him to defift 
from any farther Profecuticn of the fame ; and, in 
cafe he Jhall refufe, his Majfjly will then make fuch 
public Declaration aga'mjl his Power and Proceedings 
as is defire'd* 

His MAJESTY'S LETTER to the Marquis of OR 
MOND, requiring him to defift from any further 
Proceedings in Ireland. 
CHARLES R. 

TTfHereas rue have received feveral Informations 
** fre?n sur two Honfes of Parliament concerning 
ycur Proceedings with thz Confederate Roman 



^ENGLAND. ^ 277 

tholics in the Kingdom 0/~ Ireland, the f eve ra I Votes and An. * 4 car.T. 
Extracts whereof we do herewith tranfmit to you : And t I468> 
forafmuch as we are now engaged in a Treaty of Peace 
with our two Houfes, wherein we have made fuch large 
ConceJJions as we hope will prove the Foundation of a 
bleffed Peace ; and having by one Article^ if the f aid 
Treaty take Effett, promifed to intrujl the Projecu- 
tion and Management of the Irifh War in Ireland tq 
the Guidance and Advice of our two Honfes, we have 
therefore thought Jit hereby to require you to defift from 
any farther Proceedings upon the Matters contained 
in the faid Papers ; and we expcfl fuch Obedience 
unto this our Command, that our two Houfes Dejlre 
may be fully fatisfied. 

Given at Newport in the Ifle of JFight, the 251!! 
of November , in the 24th Year of our Reign. 

The fourth Paper informed the Houfe, That on 
the 2yth of November, the King gave the following 
Anfwer to the Commiffioners, upon their prefenting 
to him the Propofition agreed on by both^ Houfes 
on the 22d, concerning Scotland ; 

Newport, Nov. 27, 1648. 
CHARLES R. 

R a final Anfiucr to you as to your Paper of 
the zytb of November Injlant, concerning Scot- 
land, his MajeJIy faith, That tbo' he finds by your 
CommiJJion^ and Paper delivered together with it at 
the optning of the Treaty^ that you are confined to 
treat concerning the Kingdoms of England and Ire- 
land only ; fo as to this Proportion hit MajejJy con- 
ceives that ysu have no Qualification to treat with 
him : Yet hit AlajfJJy^ for the Satisfaction of his two 
fJvuffSy will confent to confirm^ by Afl of Parlia- 
ment ', juch Agreement as Jhall be made by both Houfes 
for the Security of all thofe of the Kingdom of Scot- 
land who have affi/fctl or adhered unto the two Hattfcs 
of the Parliament of England. And his Alajejly 
will be nwjl willing to join in any Agreement ^ to be 
confirmed by Aft ef Parliament, for the fettling find 
'fffferying a happy and durable Peace betwixt the 
S 3 two 



278 W* Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 14 Car. I. two Nations, and for the mutual Defence each of 
l6 4-S- other under his Majejiy's Government, as King of 

The laft Paper contained the King's Reply to ' 
the Commiffioners, when they laid before him the 
Vote of the 24th of November, That his Anfwer of 
the 2ift, concerning the Church, was unfatisfac- 
tory in all its Parts, except wherein he had agreed 
with the Parliament in their Propofition upon that 
Subjea. 

Newport, Nov. 27, 1648. 

CHARLES R. 

TfO R a final Anfwer to you as to your Paper of the 
* 27 th of November //?. concerning the Church, 
bis Majejly faith, That after fuch Condefcentions, and 
well-weigh d Refolutions, in the Bufmefs of the 
Church, he did not axpefl to be farther preffed there- 
in : It is his "Judgment and Conference that he can- 
not, as he (lands yet informed, abolijh Epifcopacy out of 
the Church. 

Yet becaufe he apprehends how fatal new Diflr ac- 
tions may be t3 this Kingdom, and that he believes 
his two Houfes will yield to Truth if it Jhall be mani- 
fefled to them, as he hath ajfured them he will comply 
with them if convinced, his Majejly doth again dffere 
that there be a Confultation of Divines as he hath 
formerly propofed : And his Majejly will fufp end the 
Epifcopal Power, as well in point of Ordination of 
Minijlers as that of yurifdiftion, untill he and his 
two Houfes agree what Government Jhall be ejlablijhed 
in the future. 

As for the Bijhops Lands ; tho* he cannot confent 
to the abfolute Alienation of them from the Church, 
yet he will agree that the Property and Inheritance of 
them Jhall, by Aft of Parliament, le fettled in th-e 
Crown, to be declared in Truji for the Uje of the 
Church and Churchmen, to be employed by his Ma- 
jefty-, his Heirs and SucceJJors, with the Advice of 
his two Houfes for jhc Ujcs aforefaid\ and that 
Leafes Jhall be made for Lives or Years, not exceed- 
ing ninety-Nine Years, for tbe Satisfaction of the 

Pur- 



rf ENGLAND. 279 

Purchasers and Contraflors, according to bis former An. 24 cr. ti 
Anfwers, referring the old Rents, or other moderate 
Rents, for the Maintenance of tkofe to -whom they 
did formerly belong, and for the future Benefit of 
the Church. 

And in all Things elfe his Majejly refers bimfelf if 
his former Anfwers. 

After reading this long Report the Lords ordered 
the Thanks of their Houfe to be given to the Gom- 
jnifiioners for their great Care and Pains in the 
Treaty ; that a Copy be taken of the King's Let r 
ter to the Marquis of Ormond, and then the Origi- 
nal to be fent to the Houfe of Commons. 

In Mr. Carte's Hi/lory of the Life of James 
Duke of Ormond, we find Copies of the two 
following Letters from the King to that Noble- 
man (/; : 

ORMONDE, Newport, O&. 10, 1648. 

T ESTyou might be mijled by falfe Rumours, /Aaz/^ 
*r* thought fit by this to tell you my true Condition: / ter? from the 
ant here in a Treaty, but fucb a one, as if I yield not <* 
all that is propofed to me, I mujl be a clofe Prifoner, 
being Jlill under Rejlraint : Wherefore I mujl commend 
you two Things - t fir/I, To obey all my Wifes Commands ; 
then not to obey any public Command of mine, until! I 
fend you Word that J am free from Rejlraint. La/ily, 
Be not jlartled at my great ConceJJions concerning ire- 
land, for that they will come to nothing. This is all at 
this Time from 

Your moft real, faithful, conftantFricnd, 
CHARLES R. 

ORMONDE, Newport, Oct. 28, 1648. 

I Hope before this mine of the tenth of this 
Month luill have come to your Hands. I fent 
it by the Way of France. This is not only to CON- 
S 4 firm 

(f) Appendix to his Second Volume, p. 17- 



2 So ffie Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. a+Cw.l.ygrm t jj e Contents of that , but alfo to approve of certain 
_ t Commands to you \ likewife to command you to profecute 

* Decembir. f* 'ta/ Injlrutlions, until! I Jhall^ under my oiun tfand, 
glue you other Commands. And though you will hear 
that this Treaty is near, or at leajl mojl likely^ to be 
concluded, yet believe it not\ but purfue the Way you 
are in with all pojjible Vigour. Deliver alfo that my 
Command to all your Friends ; but not in a public Way, 
becaufe otherwise it may be inconvenient to me, and 
particularly to Inchequin. So t being confident of 
your punfiual Obfervance of tbefe my Directions, f 
rejl 

Your moft real, faithful, conflant Friend, 
CHARLES R. 

How far thefe two Letters from the King are 
reconcileable with his Majefty's Anfwer, of the firft 
of November, to the CommiiTioners Paper of that 
Day, wherein he declared (g), Thatfmce the Votes, 
paffed in the Beginning of Augujt, for opening a 
Treaty with the Parliament, he had not tranf- 

cled any Affairs concerning that Kingdom but 
xvith thofe Commiffioners ; or how far thefe pri- 
vate Inftrudtions are confident with the foregoing 
public Letter for the Marquis, delivered to the 
Commiffioners on the 25th, we leave to the 
Reader's Judgment: And proceed to obferve that 
the Houfe of Lords, after reading the laft Report 
concerning the Treaty, ordered, That their Com- 
miffioners do meet and perufe all the Papers rela- 
ing thereto, and ftate the Bufmefs, fo as it may be 
more fit for the Confederation of the Houfes ; and 

that the Commons be defired to give the like 

Power 

fg) In this Volume, p. 126, S ; alfo p. 53, 4. The Reader 

who would fee this Affair of the Irijb Treaty thoroughly dillufs'd, 
may confult a Piece puoliflied in 1747, iiritulrd, sin Inquiry imo the 
Share which AT/rj. Charles I. bad 'in the 'Tran faff ions of the Earl ef 
Glamorgan, after-wards Maryuis of Woixrfier, for bringing over a 
Bod : ; oflrifh Rebels. ID aflift that King, in the Tears 1645 and 1646 ; 
in "which Mr. Carte's iwperfetl sicccm--! of that A+Jtiir, ai,J Us Ufe 
of the MSS. f&Ktiri sf tie Pcf:'; Nu::--;s, P.:.ii:cc.:ii, tr: itrt'itnij'.y 



^ENGLAND. 281 

Power to their Members, that were Commiifioners, An. 24 Car. I. 
U> meet with the Lords for that Purpofe. * 642 ' M 

December* 

In Romans Edition of the King's Works we 
meet with the following Speech made by hu Ma- 
jefty, at taking Leave of the Commiilioners. 

My Lords, 

y*O U are come to take your Leave of me, and I ^j s \j a iefly' 
^ believe we Jhall fcarce ever fee each other drain ; Speech to the 
but God's Will be done. 1 thank GW, / have made ^J^JJJ 
iny Peace with him, and Jhall y without Fear, under- Leave cf him. 
go what he Jhall be pleaded to fiffir Men to do unto 
me, 

My Lords, you cannot but know that, in my Fall 
and Ruin, you fee your own, and that alfo near to 
you. I pray God fend you better Friends than I have 



I am fully informed/ of the whole Carriage of- tie 
Plat agalnjl me and mine ; and nothing fo much af- 
ftifts me, as the Scnfe and Feeling I have of the 
Sufferings of my Subjects and the 'Adiferies that 
hang over my three Kingdoms, drawn upon them by 
thofe who, upon Pretences of Public Goody violently 
p'irfue their nvn Intercjls and Ends. 

The fame Authority informs us, That when the 
Army's Remonftrance, of the 2oth of laft Month, 
was read to the King, his Majeity thereupon put 
the following Queries. 

I. TT/'Hdher this Remonflrance be agreeable to the H j, g^a^ on 
' former Declarations of the Army ; and, //"Occafion of th 
not, whether the Parliament would make good their Arm y' s Iar 6' : 
Votes, that, after he had consented to ivhat they defereel, Rc ""'' 

he Jh'juld hi in a Capacity of Honour, Freedom^ and 
Safety ? 

2. Whether his Acknowledgement of the Blood that 
hath beenfpilt in the late IVar (nothing being as yet ab~ 
Jolutely concluded or binding} could be urged fo far as 
to be made Ufe of by icay of Evidence ayainji him or 
any of his Party % 

3. Itltthr 



282 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. 3. Whether the Arguments that he^ hath ufed in a. 
> ">4 i - free and per fonal Treaty, to leffen or extenuate, and 

* December ovoid the Exaftnefs of any of the Conditions, tho' in 
Manner and Form only, might be charged againji him 
as an Aft of Qbftinacy or wilful Perjiftence in what if 
alledged againji him, or that he goes on in a dejlruflivt 
Courfe of Enmity againji the People and the Laws of 
the Land, when he hath declared that his Confcience 
was unfatisfied concerning divers Particulars in the 
Proportions ? 

4. JVnereas, by the Letter of the Law, all Perfons 
charged to offend againji the Law ought to be tried 
by their Peers or Equals ; what the Law is, if the 
Perfon queftioued is without a Peer ? And if the 
Law (which of it f elf is but a dead Letter) feems ta 
condem him, by what Power foall Judgment be 
given, and who Jhall give it ? Or from whence Jhall 
the Adminijirators of fuch Judgment derive their 
Power, which may, by the fame Law, be deeme 
the fupreme Power or Authority of the M.agiftracy in 
the Kingdom? 

Lord Clarendon^ after giving an Abftra& of the 
Proceedings upon the Treaty, writes (b), * That the 
King had begun a Letter to the Prince his Son, 
before the firft forty Days appointed for that Pur- 
pofe were expired ; and continued it, as the Term 
thereof was lengthened, even to the Hour it was 
concluded ; and that his Majefty nnifhed this Let- 
ter the 29th of November, after the Commiflioners 
were departed 9 that with this he fent a very exact 
Copy of all the Papers which had pafled in the 
Treaty, in the Order in which they were pafled, 
fairly engrofled by one of the Clerks who attended; 
but the Letter itfelf was all in his own Hand, and 
contained above fix Sheets of Paper ; in which he 
made a very particular Relation of all the Motives 
pnd Reafuns which had prevailed with him, or over 
him, to make thofe Conceffions ; out of which 
molt of hi^i Lordfhip's Relation was extracted.' He 

< then 

(b) Hijlory, Vol. V. p. 8. 



of E N G L AN D. 283 

then proceeds to inform us, ' That the major Part An. 24 Car. I, 

of both Houfes of Parliament was, at that Time, t __ 1 . < '_ r 

fo far from defiring the Execution of all thofe Con- December, 
ceffions, that, if they had been able to have reiift- 
ed the wild Fury of the Army, they would have, 
themfelves, been Suitors to have declined the great- 
eft Part of them. But that which feem'd to af- 
flict the King moft, next to what referred to the 
Church and Religion, and which, he fatd, had a 
large Share in his confcientious Confiderations, was 
the hard Meafure his Friends were fubjected to; 
for whofe Intereft, he did verily believe, he fhould 
better provide in the Execution of the Treaty, 
than he had been able to do in the Preliminaries ; 

* For, he faid, he could not but think that all who 

* were willing he fhould continue their King, and 
' to live under his Government, would be far from 
' defiring, in the Conclufion, to leave fo foul a 

* Brand upon his Party, of which they would all 
' defire to be accounted for the Time to come. 
' However, he hoped that all his Friends would 

* confidcr, not what he had fubmitted to, but how 
e much he had endeavoured to relieve them from ;' 
and conjured the Prince his Son, * that the lefs he had 
1 been able himfclf to do for them, the more, if God 
r blefTcd him, he fhould acknowledge and fupply.' 
He faid, l He would willingly forget in how high 
' a Degree fome Subjects had been difloyal, but 
never had Prince a Tcftimony in others of more 
' Loyalty than he had had ; and however that God, 
' for their and his Punifhment, had not blefs'd fome 

* of their Endeavours, yet, he faid, more mifguid- 

* ed Perfons were at laft reduced to their Loyalty, 
' than could in any Story be exampled ; and that, 
' by that, Subjects might learn how dangerous the 
' Neglect of fea fon able Duty is ; and that Men 

* cannot eafily Ex, when they pleafe, what they 

* have unnecellarily fhaken.' His Lordfhip adds, 

* That the Conclufion of this Letter, as it was 
dated the 25th of November (what was added to 
it after, till the 29th, being but the additional Paf- 
foges upon the Enlargement of Time) dcfcrves to 

be 



284 *fbe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 3.4. Car. I. be preferv'd in Letters of Gold, and gives thQ be$ 
' 648t , Character of that excellent Prince j which was in. 
December, thefc Words (h}. 

SON, Newport, Nov. 29, 1648. 

And his Letter 73 Y what hath been f aid, you may fee how long we 
to the Prince of D }j avs l a b oure d in the Search of Peace : Do net 
Se TiSJ! ,y u be difoeartened to tread In the fame Steps. Ufe all 
worthy Means to re/tore yourfelf to your Right , but 
prefer the Way of Peace. Shew the Greatnefs of your 
Mind, [if God blefs you, and let us comfort you 
with that which is our own Comfort, that tho' Afflic- 
tion may make us pafs under the Cenfures of Men, 
yet we look upon it fo, as if it procure not, by God's 
Mercy, to us a Deliverance, it will to you a Blefling] 
rather to conquer your Enemies by pardoning, than 
by punifoing them. If you faw how unmanly and 
unchriftian this implacable Difpofition is in our 
Ill-wijhers, you would avoid that Spirit. Cenfure 
us not for having parted with fo much of our own 
Right j the Price was great, the Commodity was Se- 
curity to us, Peace to our People ; And we were con- 
fident another Parliament would remember how ufeful 
a Kings Power is to a People's Liberty, and of how 
much thereof we divejled ourfelf, that we and they 
might meet again in a Parliamentary way, to agree 
the Bounds of Prince and People. And in this give 
Belief to cur Experience, never to affetl more Great" 
nefs or Prerogative than what is really and intrin- 
jically for the Good of your Subjects, not the Satisfac- 
tion of Favourites. And if you thus ufe it, you will 
never want Means to be a Father to all, and a bounti" 
ful Prince to any you would be extraordinarily graci- 
ous unto. Ton may perceive all Men irujl their Trea- 
fure where it returns them Inter eft : And if Princes, 
like the Sea, receive and repay all the frejh Streams, 
the Rivers intru/l tbem with, they will not grudge, 

but 

(b) The Conclufion of this Letter, but nothing more, is printed in 
Royftont Edition cf the Kir.g"i Wtrh, p. 351, in which the Paf- 
fage in the Reman Character is omitted : But.th eript here five 
is taken from thence, it not being in Lord Clarendon. There are alfft 
fome fmall Variations, not worth particularizing, which will appear 
f ) the more critical Reader upon Companion, 



of ENGLAND. 28; 

lut pride themfehes, to make them up an Ocean. An. 24 Car. I- 
Thefe Confederations may make ysu as great a Prince, t * 64 t 
as your Father is now a low one ; and your State December. 
may be fo much the more eftablijhed, as mine hath 
teen ftaken. For our Subjects have learned, we dare 
fay, that Victories over their Princes are but Tri- 
umphs over themselves, and fo will be more unwil- 
ling to hearken to Changes hereafter. The Englifh 
Nation are a fober People, however at prefent un-> 
der feme Infatuation. We know not but this may 
be the laft Time we may fpeak to you or the World 
publickly : We are fenjlble into what Hands we are 
fallen ; and yet we blefs God we have thofe inward 
Refre/hments that the Malice of our Enemies cannot 
perturb. We have learned to know ourfclf by reti~ 
ring into ourfelf, and therefore can the better digejl 
what befalls us, not doubting but God can reflrain 
our Enemies Malice, and turn their Fiercenefs untf 
bis Praife. 

To conclude : If God give you Succefs, ufe it humbly 
end far from Revenge: If be rejlore you to your 
Right upon hard Conditions, whatever you promife, 
keep. Thofe Men which have forced Laws which 
they wer* bound to preferve, will find their Triumphs 
full of Troubles. Do not think any Thing in this 
World worth obtaining by foul and unjujl Means. 
You are 'the Son of our Love ; and as we direct you 
to weigh what we have recommended to you, fo we af- 
fure you, we do not more affectionately pray for you, 
i^to whom we are a natural Parent) than we do that 
the anticnt Glory and Renown of this Nation be not 
buried in Irreligion and fanatick Humour ; and that 
all our Subjefts (to whom we are a politick Parent) 
may have fuch fober Thoughts, as to feek their Peace 
in the orthedox Profrffton of the Chrijlian Religion, 
as it was ejiablijhed fence the Reformation in this 
Kingdom, and not in new Revelations ; and that tbf 
anticnt Laws, with the Interpretation according te 
ihe known Practice, may once again be an Hedge abrut 
them, that you may in due Time govern, and they be 
as in th: Fear of God* p n 



286 The Parliamentary H I s t o R Y 

An. 24. Car. I. P. S. "The Commijfioners are gone, the Corn is notJD 

. l6 **' t in the Ground, We expett the Harwtfl ; if the Fruit 

Dminber ^ e P ace -> w* bP e the God of Peace will in Time re duct 

all to Truth and Order again , which that he may do, 

it the Prayer of C R 

Thus much by way of Illuftration. Return 
we now to fee the Refult of this tedious Treaty iri 
the Houe of Commons, the Report of which was 
made there the fame Day by Mr. Denzil Holies, 
as in the Houfe of Lords by the Earl of Northum- 
berland. 

Debate in the The firft Step was, that the Commons ordered 
Houfe of Com. their Speaker to return their Thanks to Lord Wen- 
mons, jj e ^ er man, Mr. Holies, Mr. Pierepoint^ and Mr. Crew* 
Anfwer* were tnen prefent, for their great, good, and very faith- 
ful Services to the Parliament and Kingdom in that 
Employment. After which the Houfe proceeded 
to take into Confideration the King's Anfwers, 
which being exclaimed againft by fome Members 
as unfatisfa&ory, Mr. Nathaniel Fiennes argued, 
4 That the King had done enough to fecure Reli- 
gion, Laws, and Liberties, in granting the Mi- 
litia, refigning up himfelf and all Affairs of State! 
to the Diicretion of both Houfes, and yielding to 
abolifti whatfoever was offenfive in the Govern- 
ment of the Church ; and that thefe Things being 
provided for, which were the only Things which 
the Parliament had fo often declared to be the 
Ground of their Quarrel, his Majefty muft needs 
have given fufficient Satisfaction. As for Delin- 
quents, he faid, his Majefty had offered reafon- 
ably, that they might be left to the Law ; and hot 
himfelf prefled to fuch a difhonourable Inconve-* 
nience as to condemn them by his Confent in an 
illegal, extraordinary, arbitrary Way; forafmuch, 
as in ordinary Conftruclion, it muft be prefumed, 
that when the Houfes engaged to bring Delin- 
quents to Punifhment, it was not meant in an ar- 
bitrary Way, but according to the Laws of the 
Land, againft which they had offended. As con- 
cerning 



of E N G L A N D. 287 

cerning the BUhops, hefaid, the King had granted An. a4 .Car. i. 

all in effect that was defired, and intended not to 

fet up Biihops again, except his Hoafes, at the 

three Years End, did agree to it, which amounted 

to as much as putting; them down for ever } and to 

refufe fo fair an Offer, were to betray the Weak- 

nefs of the Prejfoyterian Caufe, in the Opinion of 

the World, 'as if it would not endure the Teft of a 

Three Years Trial.' 

Mr. Fiennes being about to proceed to other 
Particulars, Mr. Harvey interrupted him, faying, 
* That the Purchafers and Contractors would not 
be contented with Leafes for ninety-nine Years, 
and therefore the King had not given Satisfaction 
about Bifhops Lands.' To which another Msm- 
ber immediately replied, ' That he hoped Mr. 
Harvey 's Intereft in Fulbam (d), and that of fuch 
others as himfelf fhould not be refpected before the 
Public Peace and Welfare of the Kingdom, which 
could not be effected but by an Accord with his 
Majefty.' 

After this it was refolved, by a Majority of 133 The Confutrst- 
fcgainft 102, upon the previous Queftion, to ad- tion of which i* 
journ the Confideration, How far the King's An- a<*journ'd. 
fwers to the Proportions of Peace were fatisfactory 
or not,' till the next Morning. 

The firft of this Month was a very long Day in The Sheriffs of 
Parliament; for, befides reading all the Report Lwidon c m ? tt - 

f i s~\ tff r i -V* i 01 mcate to thei M- 

From tns Lommimoners for the 1 reaty, the bhe^ ij ainen t. 
rifTs of the City of London attended both Houfes to 
inform them, That the Lord Mayor, having call'd 
a Common Council that Morning, did communi- 
cate a Letter to them, which he received from the 
Lord -General the Night before, by a Trumpeter, 
as he was going about the City, according to ufunl 
Courfe, to view the Watches, which they thought 
of fo great Concernment as to have both Houfes of 
Parliament acquainted therewith j and to receive 

their 

(d) Alluding to Mr. Harvey's having pnrchafed the Biffiopof Li*~ 
Jtn'i Palace at b'uli>jm t of wh.eh he %NJ:- ihca ia I'oilclliju. 

4 



288 tf 'be Parliamentary HISTORY 

Ai. H Car. I. their Dire&ions touching the fame, before they 

^ gave any Anfwer ; and that the Common Council 

December ^ad re folved to fit again at Two that Afternoon, to' 

receive the Refolutions of both Houfes thereupon. 

The Letter read was as follows : 

To the Right Honourable the LOR O MAYOR, 
ALDERMEN, and COMMON C o u N c i L of 
the City of London. 

Windfor, N<?u. 30, 1648. 
My Lord and Gentlemen? 

A LeHer from * F)EING upon ah immediate Advance with 
Lord Fairfax, gi- c |) t ^ e Army towards London* we thought eood 

vine Notice of ... / - T . ' r S- i 

the Army's Ad- hereby to give you Notice thereof. For the 
vance towards c Ground and Neceffity leading us hereunto, we 
thcC ! t >'' andde .' e refer you to our late Rerrionftrance, and to our 

mandmg 40000!. . J _^ , . 7 f T 

immediately. ater Declaration, concerning the fame. We 

* have only this further to add, that as we are far 
c from the lead Thoughts of Plunder, or other 
' Wrong, to your City, or any other Places ad- 
' joining, which we hope your former Experience of 

* us will give you Caufe enough to credit us in ; fo$ 
' for the better Prevention of any Diforder in the 

* Soldiery, or of any Abufe or Inconvenience to 
1 the Inhabitants in quartering of the Soldiery at 
' private Houfes, we earneftly defire that you would 

* take a prefent Courfe for the Supply of Money to 

* pay thofe Forces while we (hall be neceffitated 
' to flay there ; upon which, we a flu re you, we 

* fhall fo difpofe of them into great and void Houfes 

* about the City, as much as may be poflible, as 

* that few or none of the Inhabitants fhall be trou- 

* bled with quartering of any Soldiers at all ; and 

* for this Purpofe we defire that 40,0007. may be 

* forthwith provided upon the Security of our Ar- 
' rears, to be ready to be paid out to the Forces 

* To-morrow Night, if poflible ; and we (hall be 
' ready to receive from you any Intimation for the 

* further Prevention of Hurt or Inconvenience to 

* the City in this Bufmefs. I remain 

Tmr nwjl offured Friend and Servant, 

FAIP.FAX. 

The 



*f ENGLAND. 2 fy 

The following Anfwer was given by the Lords An. 24 Car. i. 
to the Sheriffs : ' The Lords return Thanks to the l6 4 8< 
Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council, ' December. 
for their Refpedr. (hewed to that Houfe ; and as to 
the 40,000 /. mentioned to be fecured upon Ar- The Anfwer of 
rears to the Army from the City, the Lords leave both Houfcsw 
it to themfelves to do therein as they {hall think the Citizeni. 
moft fit for preventing of Inconveniences.' 

But that of the Commons was much more ex- 
plicit : 

Mr. Sheriff^ and the reft of you Gentlemen of the 

City, 

The Houfe has taken your Bufinefs into feri- 
ous Confideration, and 'have had long Debate 
thereupon ; and have refolved to fend a Letter 
to the General from this Houfe : And that you 
forthwith provide 40,000 /. of the Arrears, dire 
by the City to the Army, upon Security of the 
faid Arrears, and the Refulue with all the Speed 
you can : And the Houfe doth give you Leave to 
addrefs yourfelves to the General, by Committee, 
Letter, or otherwife, as you (hall think fit.' 

In confequence of thefe Anfwers from the Parlia- 
ment, the City ordered a Committee from the Com- 
jjion Council to wait upon the Lord-General with a 
Letter, pomifmg Payment of the Sum demanded^ 
or the moft Part of it, the next Day ; and defiring 
that, in the mean Time, no Violence or Injury 
might be done to the Citizens. 

The Houfe of Commons alfo or lered a Letter to T{ie c ommon , 
be written to the General on this Occafion, which W rhe to the Ge- 
ls not entered in the Journals ; yet, by the Coritem- neral to ftop his 
porary Writers, it appears that the Purport of il 
was to forbid his Lordfhip's nearer Approach to- 
wards London: But while the Committee were 
preparing this Letter, the Houfe was informed that 
the Army were advanced (ac:ording totheThrc 
of their lad Remonftrance, Numbers, of printed 
Copies whereof they difperfcd upon their Mjrch) 
within a Mile of IVeftminfte r ; that they had 

VOL. XVIII. T planted 



296 'The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. a 4 Car. I. planted Guards at Hide-Park Corner, cut down 
v I jfl__/ Trees, levelled the Inclofure, and laid it in corn- 
December rnon. Hereupon a Motion was made for adding 
a Claufe to the Letter, That the Army's Approach 
was derogatory to the Freedom of Parliament ; 
but it paffed in the Negative by 44 againft 33. 
This very extraordinary Refolution is imputed to 
the Cowardice of fome Members, and the felf- 
Jnterefted Views of others, who fided with the 
Army in hopes of fecuring themfelves from giving 
an Account of the Public Money, which had 
pafTed through their Hands. 

Dec. 2. The Commons refolved that the Horfe- 
Gunrds attending both Houfes, do remove their 
Quarters : But at the fame Time voted them 
Thanks for their faithful Services, and ordered the 
Payment of their Arrears. 
Tfie Commons Then, according to the Order of the Day be- 

?derTdofS* iorCy the Houfe refumed the Confutation of the 
King's Anfwers. Queftian, How far the King's Anfwers to the Pro- 
pohtions were or were not, fatisfactory. The 
Debate hereon was opened by Sir Henry Vane^ jun. 
who faid, 6 Mr. Speaker, We may do well now to 
confuler the King's laft Anfwer upon the Treaty j 
for, by the Debate, we (hall foon guefs who are 
our Friends, and who our Enemies ; or, to 
(peak more plainly, we {hall underftand by the 
Carnage of this Bufmefs, who are the King's Party 
in the Houfe, and who for the People.' He then 
pioceeded to put them In Mind, 4 That they had 
been diverted from their old fettled Refolution and 
Declaration, of making no more Addrefles to the 
King, fmce which the Kingdom had been go- 
ven/d in great Peace, and begun to tafte the Sweets 
ot that Republican Government which they in- 
tended and begun to eftablifh ; when, by a Combi- 
nation between the City of London and an ill- 
affected Party in Scotland, with fome fmall con- 
temptible Infurreclions in England, all which were 
fomented by the City, the Houfes had, by Cla- 
mour and Noife, been compelled to reverfe their 

former 



of E N G L A 0. 291 

former Votes and Refolutions, and enter into a An - 2 4 ran ! 
Perfonal Treaty with the King;, with whom they .^ 
had not been able to prevail, notwithftandirtg the ' December* 
low Condition he was in, to give them any Secu- 
rity ; but he had ftill referved a Power in himfelf, 
or at leaft to his Poftcrity, to exercife as tyrannical a. 
Government as he had formerly done : That all the 
Infurre&iQn^ which had fo terrified them were now 
totally fubdued, and the principal Authors and A- 
bettors of them in their Cuftody, and ready to bs 
brought to Juftice, if they pleafed to direct and ap- 
point it : That their Enemies in Scitland were re- 
duced, and that Kingdom entirely devoted to a firrh 
and good Correspondence with their Brethren, the 
Parliament of England; fo that there was nothing 
wanting but their own Confsnt an J Refolution, to 
make themfelves the happieft Nation and People 
it>the World; and to that Purpofe he defired 
they might, without any more Lofs of Time, re- 
turn to their former Refolution of making no more 
Addrefles to the King j but proceed to the fettling 
the Government without him, and to the fevere 
Punimmem of thofe who had difturbed their Peace 
and Quiet, in fuch an exemplary Manner as might 
terrify all other Men for the future from making 
the like bold Attempts ; which, he told them, they 
mieht fee would be moft grateful to their Army, 
which had merited fo much from them by the Re- 
monftrance they had fo lately publifhed.' 

To this it was replied by another Gentleman, 
* Mr. Speaker, Since this Gentleman hath had the 
Prefurnpiion to deal thus by way of Prevention in a 
threatening Manner, and forejudged and divided the 
Houfe into two Parts$ I hope it is as lawful for me 
r<> t;ike the fame Liberty in dividing the Houfo 
like wife into two Parts upon this Debate. Mr. 
Speaker, you will find fomc that are dcfirous of a 
Peace and Settlement^ and thofe are fuch as have 
!oft by the War ; others you will find that are a- 
gainfr. Peace, and thofe are fuch as have gained by 
the War: Mv humble Motion therefore is, That 
the Gainer? may contribute to the Lo'l-r^ tluxt we 
T 2 may 



292 Tfo Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. *4 Car. I. m ay all be brought to an equal Degree j for, till 
l6 4 8 - then, the Balance of the Commonwealth will never 
December ftand right toward a Settlement (a).' 

The Debate continuing till Four in the After- 
noon, it was prefled very earneftly by Mr. Pri- 
deaux, Sir Thomas Wroth , Sir Peter Wentivortb^ 
2nd others of the Independent Party, that the Houfe 
Would come to fome fpeedy Refolution upon the 
King's laft Anfwers : But Mr. Prynne infifted ' That 
the Confideration thereof ought to be laid afide till 
they were a free Parliament ; for that their Debates 
could not be with due Liberty, now that they were 
environ'd by the Army.' To which Mr. Richard 
Norton anfwcrcd, * Take Heed what you fay 
againft the Army, for they are refolved to have a 
free Parliament to debate the King's Anfwer, if we 
refufe ; and therefore my Motion -is, Mr. Speaker, 
that Candles may be lighted, and that we proceed 
to debate it.' Upon which another Member faid, 
* Mr. Speaker, I perceive very well that the Drift 
of fome Gentlemen is to take Advantage not only 
of the Terror now brought on us by the prefent 
Approach of the Army, but alfo to fpin out the 
Debate of this Buhnefs to an unfeafcnable Time 
of Night, by which Means the more antient Mem- 
Whichisafe^ ^ ers Q f tne f| ou f e (whom they look upon as moft 
journed without inclined to Peace) will be tired out, and forced to 
coming to any depart, before we can come to a Refolution ; and 
Refolution, therefore I hope the Houfe will not agre to this 
laft Propofal.' Then the Queftion being put upon 
the Motion for Candles, it was carried in the Ne- 
gative 

(a} The Authors of The Hi/lory of Indcpennency and of Mercitrius 
Pragmatictir obferve that this Reflection fiienced Sir Henry Vanc^ 
which they account for thus: ' True Jefts bite fore: The Two 
;^j oppofed Peace, left, the King's Revenue being reftored, they 
ihould lofe a good Trade there; the. Father being Chairman of 
that Committe, the Son Treafurer ; they pet conftantly above 
6000 /. per Annum between them, betides private Cheats, by pay- 
ing half Debts and taking Acquittances for the whole, and thtn 
difcounting for the whole ; buying in old fleeping Penfions for 
Trifles, that have not been paid in many Years, and paying them- 
felves all Arrears.* Lord Clarendons Account of the. Debates 
n Parliament, about this Time, feem to have been taken from one 
or both f thefe Authors ; and are, in fevetal Inftances, the fame in 
Terminis* 



^ENGLAND. 293 

gative, by 132 againft io2j and the Houfe aJ- An. 24 Car. ! 
journed till Mcnaay without coming to any Refo- t l648 ' > 
lution upon the Treaty. iSr^rT 

This Day, alfo, Dec. 2, the Lord-General Fair- j^rf Fairfax and 
fax took up his Lodgings at Whitehall) attended by his Army march 
fix Regiments of Horfe and four of Foot, which ^ Weftro *- 
were quartered at St. James's, the Mews, York- 
Houfe, and other great vacant Houfes in the Skirts 
of the City, and in the adjacent Villages. 

Dec. 4. The Commons being aflembled accord- 
ing to Adjournment, they received News of" the 
King's being removed from Newport to Hurfl- 
Caflle (b], the Particulars of which appeared in the 
following Letter to the Speaker of the Houfe of 
Commons, from Major Rolp, Capt. Bovtjerman, 
and Capt. Howes, whom Col. Hammond had de- 
puted to take the Charge of the King's Perfon in 
the Ifle of Wiglyt, whilft he was gone to wait upon 
the Lord Fairfax at Windfor. 

Carijbrooke Co/lie, Dec. i, 1648. 
Right Honourable, 

YEfterday there came into the Ifle fome Of- The King remo. 
ficers of the Army, viz. Lieutenant- Colo- vcdto Hurft - 
nel Cebbett and Capt. Merrpnan, with Inftruc- ^^J^ 
tions from the General and Council of War, di- COU 
rec~ted to themfelves and the Comm mder in Chief 
here, forthwith to fecure the Perfon of the King in 
CariJbrooke-Caftle, as before the Treaty, 'till they 
fhould receive fbme Refolution from the Houfe 
upon their late Remonftrance : And they under- 
ftanding the Management of the Affairs of this 
Ifland was committed by Col. Hammond to our- 
felves, or any two of us, they acquainted us with 
their Inftruftions, defiring our Concurrence with 
T 3 them, 

(b) A Block -houfe oftt of the Ifle of Wight, ftsnding about a. 
Mile and a Half in the Sea, upon a Beach full of Mud and link- 
ing Oaze upon low Tides ; having no ficfii Water within two or 
three Miles of it, hitter cold, and of a 'foggy and pefli'ent Air, Jo 
noyfome that the Guards thereof were not .ble to endure it lo'ig 
without Shifting their Quarters. 

lli/ly of lnJ<ftndcrc\ t Part II. p. *; 



294 tfbe Parliamentary. HISTORY 

r..z4 Car. I. : them,. that fo the prcfent Work, intended by 

1648. c th em> iruht with leG Difficulty be accompliftied, 

D "cember * While we were in Debate of thefe Things, 

6 there came in a Mcflenger from the General, with 

4 an Order under his Hand and Seal, directed to 

* the Gentlemen, commanding them immediately 

* to take the Perfon of the King into their Charge, 

* and to remove him forthwith into Hurfl-Cajlie ^ 
' requiring us by Name, with all other Officers 
' and Soldiers in the Ifle, to be aiding and affifting 

* to them therein ; two of us, viz. Major Ralph, 

* and Captain Howes, upon Sight of that Qrder, 

* declared curfelves obliged not to difobey the Ge- 
' neral's Commands, but conceived ourfelves bound 

* to yield Obedience thereunto by our Commif- 

* fions ; the other of us, viz. Captain Bo-Merman, 
' declared his Judgment, That his Duty lay imme- 

* diately to the Governor himfelf who had er- 

* trufted him; and that contrary to thofe Inftruc- 

* tions he could not acl ; neither was he of him- 

* felf in a Capacity to oppofe them in that Service. 

* Captain Howes being diflatisfied in the Action, 

* manifefted his Unwillingnefs to join in it, and his 
e Refolution neither cTirc&ly nor indirectly to op- 
' pofe it ; but the Gentlemen, with the Concur- 

* rence of the Army Forces here, and the Afilftance 
e of a frefh Troop of' Horfe and one Company of 
' Foot, which landed in the Night, in Purfuance 
' of their Commands, very civilly made their Ad- 

* dreiies to the King, according to another Order 

* from the Lord-General, for his Ufage with all 
f Civility and due Refpcft to his Perfon. 

* Between five and fix o'Clock this Morning, 
' * fome of the Gentlemen, who by the Parliament 

* were appointed to attend on the King, acquainted 
his Majefty with the Oilers and" Inftru&ions 

* they had in Charge from his Excellency the Lord - 
4 General concerning him; who prefently- and 
' quietly confented thereunto, and let forward in 

* his Coach from Newport, at eight of the Clock 
' this Morning, towards Hiirjl-Cajile, with Mr'. 

* Harrii:gt'jn, Col. Herbert, and Captain MiUl- 



of ENGLAND. 205 

' may, and others of his Servants to attend him. An. 14. Car. 
' And we do affure you that, in the whole Tranf- 
' action of this great Affair, there neither was nor 

* is the leaft Difturbance in this Ifle. 

* Thus we have, with all Clearnefs an4 Faithful - 
' nefs, given you a full and impartial Account of 
c thefe late Proceedings here; and having fo done, 
( we fubfcribe ourfelves. 

Tour mojl humble Servants^ 

EDMUND ROLPH. 
THO. BOWERMAN. 
FRANCIS HOWES. 

P. S. * Since the writing hereof, we have Intel- 

* ligence that his Majefty is fafely arrived at Hurjl- 
< Co/He. 

This Letter being read, many Members fpake which t 

againft the Infolency of this Fact, as being com- >ns vot , e to be 

i n i T / / i TJ-- i TT ponewithout 

mitted agamlt the Life of the King, and the Ho- their Knowledge 

nour and public Faith of the Parliament, who had prCpnfent. 
voted, He ffyould treat in Honour, Freedom, and 
Safety, in Newport jn the Ifle of IVight \ and had 
accepted his Word not to withdraw out of the Ifland 
during the Treaty, nor in twenty Days after, 
which were not yet expired ; and that now to have 
the Houfes Debates foreftall'd, and the Treaty 
fruftrated by fuch an At of Violence and Pre- 
vention committed upon the Perfon of the King, 
was a prefumptuous and rebellious A&. It was 
therefore propofed to refolve, That the Removal 
of the King out of the Ifle of Wight was without 
the Knowledge of the Houfc ; and a Motion being 
made to add, or Confent^ after the Word Know- 
ledge^ it paflcd in the Affirmative, by 136 againft 
102. 

It appears upon the Authority of Col. Cooh, 
(thro* whom Col. Hammind) Governor of the Ifle 
of #%/;/, had upon all Occafions addrefs'd him- toefrapr, t 

felf to the Kin* while under his Charge ; and who a . ppriz ! d "' 

i c 1-1 & i r ;r Army*iDe 

r,-as continued in the fume Employmc|it by Major to ,vi', e y 

T 4 -' -. 



296 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

$*'*' Roiph during Col> fjammonffi Abfence) that his 
. Majsfty was inform 'd the Night before the Army 

December, feiz'd upon him and remov'd him to Hurjl-Cajlle^ 
of their Intention to do fo; and that he then had 
it in his Power to have made his Efcape, but ab- 
folutely refufed to embrace the Opportunity, on 
account of his Parole of Honour to the Parliament 
pot to leave the Ifland till twenty Days after the 
Treaty ended. All the Circumftances of this Affair 
Col. Cooke drew up by way of Narrative, by Com- 
mand of the King, with the Affiftance of the Duke 
of Richmond and the Earl of Lindfey. This Piece 
was firft publifhed in 1690, and is reprinted in Mr. 
Rujhworth's Collections, for which Reafon we for- 
3ear giving the whole at large ; but the felecr.ing 
fome few of the moft remarkable Paflages will 
not, we prcfume, be foreign to the Defign of this 
Work, or deem'd an unfuitable Digreffion (c). 

* The King having fent for the Duke of Rich- 
mond, the Earl of Lindfey, and Col. Cooke to attend 
. him, acquainted them that one of his Servants had 
been fent for by a Perfon in a Kind of Difguife, 
who having inform'd him that the Army would 
that Night fi-i^e upon his Majefty's Perfon, ab- 
ruptly left him. Hereupon the Lords advifed the 
King to attempt an immediate Efcape; for he 
would better bring about a Perfonal Treaty with 
the Parliament, which he fo much coveted, when 
out of the Pvcach of the Army, than when within 
their Power ; and this would certainly fecure the 
Safety of his Perfon, which elfe might very proba- 
bly be much in Danger. 

{ But before they could proceed to debate the 
Manner of this Efcape, the King prevented it, 
thus arguing againft the Efcape itfelf ; firft^ The 

Dif- 

(c) Printed for R. Ckifatll, at the Reft and Crown in St. Paufs 
Church-yard, with a Preface, letting forth the Reaibns of its Pub- 
lication. 

In Sir Philip Jf r t :rzvick''s Mfrroirt, who was one of the King's 
Attendants during the Treaty in the Ifle of Wigbt, there are a!fo 
tnany remarkable and intercfting Particulars ; which, tho' rathe 
k?iftorical tkan Parliamentary, dtl;r/'a Reference, p. 321 to 334. 



^/ENGLAND. 297 

Difficulties, if not Impoflibiliry, of accomplifhing An. 24 cnr. 
it ; next) The Confequences, that in cafe he fhould l6<J - 8> 
mifcarry in the Attempt, it would exafperate the 
Army, and difliearten his Friends ; and, Ififtly, 
That if the Army fliould feize him, they muft pre- 
ferve him for their own Sakes ; for that no Party 
.could fecure their own Interefts without joining his 
with it, his Son being now out of their Reach. 
That the Earl of Lindfey replied, Take heed, Sir, 
left you fall 'into fuch Hands as will ntt Jleer by fuck 
Rules of Policy : Remember Hampton-Court, where 
your Efcape was your left Security. The Duke of 
Richmond adding, That he yet thought it feafible 
enough j and afk'd Col. Cooks if he could pafs him 
thro' the Guards ; who anfwered, He had the Word^ 
and made no jjhteftion but he could. At which the 
Duke took a leaguer Cloak, without a Star, and 
made the Colonel go along with him through the 
Guards ; and fo returning again to the King, ac- 
quainted him with what he had done, and with 
what Eafe ; and thence took the Advantage again 
to perfuade the King to attempt an Efcape. 

The King preffing Col. Cooke to give him his 
own Advice, he put this Queftion to his Majefty, 
Suppofe I fhould not only tell your Majefly that the 
Army will very fuddenly feize upon you, but, by 
concurring Circumjlances, fully convince your Maje- 
Jly it will be fo ; a/Jo that I have the Word, Horfes 
ready at Pland, a Veffel attending at my Call, and 
hourly expecting me i that I am ready, and defer ous, 
to attend you, and this dark Night fuited as it were 
to the Purpofe ; fo that I can forefee no vijible Dif- 
ficulty in the Thing, which I fuppofe to be in all 
Particulars the true State of the prcfent Cdfe ; the 
only Quejlicn noiv is, What will ysur Majcfty re- 
folve to do? The King, after a'fmall Paufe, pro- 
nounced this pofitive Anfwer, They have prornifed 
me, and I have promifcd them, I will not break jirjl. 
To this Col. Cooke anfwered, 1 prcfume, Sir, your 
Majfjly Intends by thefe Words^ they and them, the 
Parliament ; if fe, the Scent is now quite altered, 
ywr prefer. f dkprtbwfuns arifmg from ihe Arm^, 

whs 




The Parliamentary HISTORY 

l 'Vjho have fo far already violated the Votes of the Par- 
liament, as to invade your Majeflys. Freedom and 
Safety, by changing the Jingle Sentinel of State at the 
outward Door intojlrong Guards on your very Bed- 
Chamber ; which is in itfelf no better than Confine- 
ment, and the probable Fore-runner offomething more, 
a fpcedy abfolute Jmprifonment. The King replied, 
Ne'er let that trouble you, ivere it greater, I would 
rot break my Word to prevent it* 
Thus far Col. Cooke. 

On the King's being carried away from New- 
port, he delivered to one of his Servants the fol- 
lowing Declaration concerning the Treaty, and 
his Diflike of the Army's Proceedings, which he 
commanded to be published for the Satisfaction of 
his Subjects. It was accordingly printed, and we 
give it from the Original Edition (h}. 



large Pretences prove but the Shadow 
of * k Performances, then the greatejl La- 
way from New- hours produce the fmallejl Effects ; and -when a Pe- 
&** r'tod is put to a Work of great Concernment, all 

Men's Ears do, as it were, hunger till they are fa- 
tisfied in their Expectations. Hath not this dijlraled 
Nation groaned a long Time tinder the Burden of 
Tyranny and OppreJJion ? And hath not all the Blood 
that hath been fpilt ihcfe feven Years been caft upon 
my Head, who am tht greatejl Sufferer, though the 
lea/I guilty ? And was it not requijite to endeavour 
the flopping of thai Flux, which, if not Jlopt, will 
bring an abfolute Dejlrufiion on this Nation ? And 
what more fpeedy Way was there to compofe thofe 
DiftraElions than by a Perfonal Treaty, being agreed 
upon by my two Houfis of Parliament, .^nd conde- 
(cended to by me ? And I might declare, that I con- 
ceive it had been the bejl Phyfick, had not the Opera- 
tion been hindered by the Interpofition of this impe- 
rious Army, who were fo audacious as to Jlyle me, 



(b) The PuWi/her's Name is not in the Tit'e Page ; but from 
many Circumfianrep it appears to have been printed by Royjfcn, in 
r.i.c'.e Edirjcfi of the King't l'/irk.i it is alfo infertei. 



ef ENGLAND. 299 

in their unparalleFd Remonftrance, their Capital Ene- An - 5 4 Car. 

my. But let the World judge whether mine Endea- v * ' _, 

vours have not been attended with Reality in this late December. 
Treaty ; qnd whether I was not as ready to grant as 
bey were to ajk : And yet all this is not Satis faclion to 
them that pursue their own ambitious Ends more than 
the Welfare of a miferable Land. 

Were not thf dying Hearts of my poor dijlrejjed 
People much revived with the Hopes of a Happinefs 
from this Treaty ? And how fuddenly are they fruf- 
trated in their Expectations ! Have not I formerly 
been condemned for yielding too little to my two Houfes 
of Parliament ; and Jhall I now be condemned for 
yielding too much ? Have I not formerly been im- 
prifoned for making War ; and Jhall I now be con- 
demned for making Peace ? Have I not for?nerly ruled 
like a King ? and Jhall I now be ruled like a Slave ? 
Have I not formerly enjoyed the Society of my dear 
Wife and Children in Peace and ghiietnefs ; and Jhall 
I now neither enjoy them nor Peace ? Have not my 
Subjects formely obeyed me ; and Jhall I now be obe- 
dient to my Subjects ? Have I not been condemned for 
evil Counfellors ; and Jhall I now be condemned for 
having no Counfd but God? Tbefe are unutterable 
MiferieS) that the more I endeavour for Peace, the 
lafs my Endeavours are refpefied ; and how Jhall 1 
know hereafter what to grant, when yourfelves know 
not what to a/k ? I refer it to your Confciences^ 
whether 7 have not fatisfied your Defires in every 
Particular fmce this Treaty : If you find I have not, 
then let me bear the Burden of the Fault ; but if I 
huve given you ample Satisfaflion, as I am fur e I have ^ 
then you are bound to vindicate me from the Fury of 
thofe whofe Thoughts are filled with Blood ; thfiugh 
they pretend Zeal, yet they are but Wolves in, Sbeefs 
Clothing. 

I mujl further declare, that I conceive there is 
nothing can more obJlruR tbe long-hoped-for Peace 
of this Nation, than the illegal Proceedings of them 
that prffttme from Servants to become Maftefs y and 
labour to bring in Democracy, and ta abo'.ijh AIo- 



2 oo he Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 car. l.narchy. Needs muft the total Alteration of Funda- 

16 4 8 - mentals be not only dejlrulive to others, but, in Con- 

December clufion, to 'thcmfelves ; for they that endeavour to rule 

by the Sword, Jhall at loft fall by It : For Faflion is 

the Mother of Ruin ; and it is the Humour of thofe 

that are of this Weathercock-like Difpofition, to love 

nothing but Mut abilities 9 neither will that pleafe them 

but only pro Tempore ; for too much Variety doth but 

confound the Senfes, and makes themjlill hate one Folly 

and fall in Love with another. 

Time is the bejl Cure for Fattion ; for it will at 
length^ like a fprcading Leprofy^ infett the whole 
Body of the Kingdom, and make it fo odious that at 
la/i they will hate themfelves for love of that, and like 
the Fijh, for love of the Bait, be catched with the 
Hook. 

I once more declare to all my loving Subjefls, and 
God knows whether or no this may be my lajl, that 1 
have earneftly laboured for Peace, and thai my Thoughts 
were fincere and abfolute, without any finifter Ends, 
and there was nothing left undone by me that my Con- 
fcience would permit me to do. And I call God to 
Witnefs, that I do firmly conceive that the Inttrpo- 
fition of the Army-) that Cloud of Malice, hath alto- 
gether eclipsed the Glory of that Peace which began 
again to Jhine in this Land. And let the World judge 
whether it be expedient for an Army to contradiSt the 
Votes of a Kingdom, endeavouring, by pretending for 
Laws and Liberties, to fubvert both. Such Actions as 
thefe muft produce Jlrange Conferences, and fet open 
the Flood-gates of Ruin to overflow this Kingdom in a 
Moment. 

Had this Treaty been only mine own feeking, then 
they might have had fairer Pretences to have ftopt 
the Courfe of it ; but I being' importuned by my ~two 
Houfes, and they by moji Part of the Kingdom, could 
not but with a great deal of Alacrity concur with them 
in their Defires, for the Performance of fo commo- 
dious a Work'> and 1 hope by this Time that the 
Hearts and Eyes of my People are opened fo much, that 
they plainly difcovcr who are the Undermine? s of this 
Trtaty. 

fir 



^ENGLAND. 301 

For mine own Party I here proteji before the Face An. *4 Car. I 
of Heaven, that mine own Afflictions, though they need ^_^ ' 4 ' 
no Addition, afflitt me not fa much as my People's Suf- Dec . mber< 
ferings ; for 1 know what to 'trujl to already, and they 
know not : God comfort both them and me, and pro- 
portion our Patience to our Sufferings. 

And when the Malice of mine Enemies is fpun 
out to the fmalleft Thread, let them know, that I 
will, by the Grace of God, be as contented to fujfer, 
as they are aftive to advance my Sufferings ; and 
mine own Soul tells me, that the Time will come, 
when the very Clouds Jhall drop down Vengeance 
upon the Heads of thofe that barricade themfelves 
agalnjl the Proceedings of Peace j for if God hath 
proclaimed a BleJJing to the Peace-makers, needs mujl 
the Peace-breakers draw down Curfes upon their 
Heads. 

I thank my God I have armed myfelf agalnjl their 
Fury ; and now let the Arrows of their Envy fly at 
me, I have a Breajl to receive them, and a Heart 
pofleffed with Patience to fuftaln them : For God is 
my Rock and my Shield ; therefore I will not fear 
\vnat Man can do unto me. I will expeft the Worjl, 
and if any Thing happen bey end my Expectation, I 
will give God the Glory, jlr vain is the Help of 

C. R. 



Man. 



But now to return to Weftmlnjier, and fee what 
the Parliament v/ere doing. 

Immediately after the Commons had voted the Th . Dcbate upon 
Removal of the King to Hurjl Cajile to have been the King's An- 
done without their Knowledge or Confent, they f * er fum'd a 
renewed the Debate upon the Commiflioners Re- l "' r T ' me * 
port of the Treaty ; and the Queftion was pro- 
pounded, Whether the King's Anfwers to the Pro- 
pofitions of both Houfes be fatisfa&ory ? The Af- 
hrmative was maintained by Sir Robert Harhy, 
Sir Benjamin Rudyard, Sir Synmionds D'Ewes, Mr. 
Edward Stephens, Sir Har bottle Grlmjlonc, Mr. 
Walker, and others ; who argued, That the Kiiv>.'j 
Conceflions were fufficient for fecunrigall the main 

Ends, 



..__3P 2 *he Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. cr. i. Ends, to attain which the Parliament firft engaged 

v \ f againft him ; and therefore his Majefty had given 

December, Sufficient Satisfaction. For the Negative there ap- 
peared Mr. Prideaux, Sir Thomas Wroth, Sir Henry 
Vane, fen. zndjun. Mr. Harvey, Mr. Edward AJb, 
Mr. Venn, Mr. Elacklflon, Mr. Scot, Mr. Hoylc> 
Mr. Corbet, Mr. G our don, and 'others: Thcfe 
urged, ' That u'nlefs the Parliament would comply 
with the Defires of the Army, there could be no 
Hope of a Settlement ; and therefore they rnuft* 
look for it fome other Way than towards the King j 
who, Sir Henry Mildmay faid, was no more to be 
trufted than a Lion that had been raged, and let 
loofe again at his Liberty. At length the previous 
QuefHon being put, That the Queftion, Whether 
the King's Arifwers to the Proportions of both 
H'cufes are fatisfactory, be now put ; it was carried 
in the Negative, by 144 Voices againft 93. This 
Refolution was owing to many of thofe Members, 
who were inclined to Peace, being apprehenfive 
that they could hardly be able to carry a Vote, 
That the King's Conceffions were fatisfatory ; 
and therefore they put the Negative upon the pre- 
vious Queftion, in order to frame a new one^ viz, 
That the Anfwers of the King to the Propofitions 
of both Houfes are a Ground for the Houfe to pro- 
ceed upon for the Settlement of the Peace of the 
Kingdom. And this occafioned another Debate, 
which continued all Night, and till Nine next 
Morning. 

The Perfon who diftinguifhed himfelf moft upon 
this Occafion, was the famous Mr. Prynne, wh<3 
maintained the Affirmative in a fet Speech of feveral 
Hours ; which, though confidercd meerly as ftich, 
may be deemed very long, yet is a fhort and au- 
thentic Summary of all the Tranfa&ions between 
x the King, the Houfes, and the Army, from the 
Beginning of this Parliament. 

It is very remarkable that neither Lord Clarendon^ 
Mr. Wbitlocke, Mr. Ru/hworth, Sir Philip War- 
wick, Col. Ludlow, nor any of the Contemporary 
Writers, excegt Mr. Walker , in his Hijtcry of Inde- 
3 pendency^ 



of ENGLAND. 303 

pendency , make the leaft Mention of this Speech, A ". 24 Car. I. 
although it was publifhed the latter End of "Janu.- v '^ 8 * , 
ary following by Mr. Prynne himfelf ; and was then December. 
the Subject of fo much Inquiry, that the following 
Copy is taken from the fourth Edition of it printed 
at that Time (d). 

Our Orator introduces his Arguments in the fol- 
lowing pathetic Manner : 

Mr. Speaker, 
* DEing called to be a Member of this Houfe Mr. Prynne's 

D (without my Privity or feeking, and againft ^ c c f ^P ontU * 
my Judgment, having formerly refufed many Places 
freely tendered to me) by the unanimous Election, 
without one diflenting Voice, of that Borough for 
which I ferve ; and, by a Divine Providence, enter- 
ing within thefe Doors in this great Conjuncture of 
the higheft public Affairs that ever came within thefe 
Walls (e), wherein the very Life or Death, the 
Weal or Ruin of this Kingdom, if not of Scotland 
and Ireland too, confift in our jfye or Afo upon the 
Queftion now debating, I (hall, with the greater 
Boldnefs, crave Liberty to difcharge my Conference 
towards God, and Duty to my dying Country* 
which now lies at Stake ; and fo much the rather be- 
caufc, for ought I know, it may be the laftTime I {hall 
have Freedom to fpeak my Mind within this Houfe. 

4 That I may, in this great Debate, more fin- The fi * ft pre J u ' 
cerely fpeak my very Heart and Soul without any dicc 3aini 
Prejudice, I {hall humbly crave Leave, briefly, to 
remove two feeming Prejudices, which may, per- 
chance, in fome Members Opinions, enervate the 
Strength of thofe Reafons I mall humbly reprefent 
unto you, to make good my Conclusion touching 
the Satisfactorinefs of the King's Anfwers to the 
Houfes Propofitions. 

The 

(J) London, printed for Mitiatl Spark, at the Bfm :'&.'( in Grttn, 
Arbor, 1649. 

(e~) This enables us to corrcft a Miftake in our Ninth Volume, 
p. * 38 ; where Mr. Prynne is put down as Member for Briftt'. 
Whereas, he was elefted for Newport, in Gormvj'', in tlm Year, 
and took his Scat gnly tbe 7 th of 



tte Parliamentary HISTORY 

e The firft is that wherewith fome Members 

have, upon another Occafion laft Week, and now 

December. again, tacitly afperfed me, That I am a Royal Fa- 
"uourite, alluding to the Title of one of my Books, 
out of which fome have collected an Abftract, in 
the Nature of a Charge againft the King, and this 
Day published it in my Name ; and I am now 
term'd An Apojlate to the Kings Party and Inter eft. 

To which I fhall return this fhort Anfwer, I 
hope, without any vain Glory or Boafting, being 
thus provoked thereunto, That I have oppofed and 
written againft the King and his Prelates arbitrary 
Power and illegal Proceedings mpre than any 
Man ; that I have fuffered from the King and Pre- 
lates for this my Oppofition, more than any Man ; 
that if the King and Prelates be ever reftored to 
their prifane arbitrary Power and illegal Preroga- 
tives, I muft expect to fuffer from them as much, 
if not more, than any Man. 

* That all the Royal Favour I ever yet received 
from his Majefty or his Party, was the cutting off 
my Ears, at two feveral Times, one after ano- 
ther, in amoft barbarous Manner; the fctting me 
upon three feveral Pillories at Wejlninjler and in 
Cheapjide, in a d.ifgraceful Manner, each Time,, 
for two Hours Space together ; the burning of my 
iicenfed Books before my Face by the Hand of the 
Hangman'; the impofing of two Fines upon me 
of 5000 /. a-piece ; Expulfion out of the Inns of 
Court and Univerfity of Oxford, and Degradation 
in both ; the Lofs of my Calling almoft nine Years 
Space; the Seizure of my Books and Eitate; a- 
bove eight Years Imprifonment in feveral Prifons, 
at leaft four of thefe Years fpent in clofe Imprifon- 
ment and Exile at Caernarvon in North Wales^ 
and in the Ifie of Jerfey ; where I was debarred 
the Ufe of Pen, Ink, Paper, and all Books almoft 
but the Bible, without the leaft Acccis of any 
Friend, or any Allowance of Diet for my Support'; 
and all this for my good Service to the State in op- 
pofmg Popery and Regal Tyranny: For all which 
Sufferings and Loflbs'I never yet received OKS Far- 

thin* 



of E N G L A N D; 305 

thing Recompence from the King, or any other. An. 24 car. f. 
though I have waited above eight Years at your **>4 8 - ^ 
Doors for Juftice and Reparations ; and, negledt,- December, 
ing my own private Calling and Affairs, employed 
moft of my Time and Study, and expended many 
hundred Pounds oat of my Purfe, fince my En- 
largement, to maintain your Caufe againft the King, 
his Popifti and Prelatical Party: For all which 
Coft and Labour I never yet demanded nor recei- 
ved one Farthing from the Houfes, nor the leaft 
Office or Preferment whatfoever, tho' they have 
beftowed divers Places of Honour upon Perfons of 
lefs, or no Defert ; nor did I ever yet receive fo 
much as your public Thanks for any public Ser- 
vice done you, which every 'Preacher ufually re- 
ceives for every Sermon preached before you, and 
moft others have received for the meaneft Services ; 
though I have brought you off with Honour in the 
Cafes of Canterbury and Macguire (a), when you 
Were at a Lofs in both ; and cleared the Juftnefs of 
your Caufe, when it was at the loweft Ebb, to moft 
Reformed Churches abroad, who received fuch (b) 
Satisfaction from my Book, that they translated it 
into two feveral Languages ; and engaged many 
Thoufands for you at home by my Writings, who 
were formerly dubious and unfatisfied. Now, if 
any Member, or old Courtier, whatfoever fhall envy 
my Happincfs for being only fuch a Royal or State 
Favourite as this, I wi(h he may receive no other 
Badges of Royal Favour frbm his Majefty, nor great- 
er Reward or Honour from the Houfes than I have 
done, and then I believe he will no more caulWs - 
ly afperfe or fufpedr, me for being now a Royal Fa- 
vourite or Apoftate from the Public Caufe. 

VOL. XVIII. U ' True 

(a) See thefe in the State Tria's, in the Fiift and Eighth. Volume^. 
ft) The learned Gi/tertm Pcctim, in his L, tter to Mr. li'j;t-' 
Stirckland, Agent for the Parliament at the liagfe, Feb. 2. 
writes thus of my Sovereign P<rwer of Paii':.tr>.iKt, &c. ./A. 
perrime cowrKodatum, ad llorjt a!ij:tot J.ib'vn Giij-lielmi Prynnr, t,:rt 
Aiu Hlibi deftderatum, et Rationet cum Relp'infikai turr. f;.';Jc c! . 
fro Parliaments contra Advcrfariot, inflrmflal atque exf,licatJs di-re- 
beadi, ut nn -Jidcam quid ultra, dcfidtrari poj/it. Dcl-btt '/--./'/j.'.vi 
Hie Latine et Gallue extart, ut a Reftrmatit TL-co.'sgn <s: PiL:ictt, it 
Europa Itgi pcj/it. 



306 ffie Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. i True it is, which it behoves now to touch, that - 
l6 4- 8> _i a b ut fourYears fmce, I publifhed a Book, intituled, , 
December. *Ihe Royal Popijl) Favourite ; wherein, as like wife 
in my Hidden JVork$ of Darknefi brought to public 
Ligbty publifhed a Year after it, I did, with no 
little Labour and Expence, difcover to the World 
the feveral Plots and Proceedings of the Jefuits, 
Papifts, and their foreign and domeftic Confede- 
rates, to introduce and fet.up Popery throughout 
England^ Scotland, and Ireland; and how far they 
had inveigled the King not only to connive at, but 
to countenance and aiHft them in a great Mea- 
fure, more fully and evidently than any elfe had 
done. And thofe worthy Members of this Houfe 
who drw up that Declaration, whereupon they 
voted no more Addrefles to the King, plowed but 
with my Heifer, borrowing all or moft of their 
real Materials from my Writings : A convincing 
Evidence that I am yet no more a Royal Favourite 
than themfelves. Yet this I muft add withall, to 
take off that Afperfion of being an Apoftate from 
my firft Principles, that I never publifhed thofe 
Books, as I then profefled in them, and now again 
proteft, to fcandalize or defame the King, or alie- 
nate the People's Affections from him ; much lefs 
to depofe or lay him quite afide ; tho' I am clear 
of Opinion, that Kings are accountable for their 
A&ions to their Parliaments and whole Kingdoms; 
and in cafe of abfolute Neceffity, where Religion, 
Laws, Liberties, and their Kingdoms will elfe be 
inevitably deftroyed by their tyrannical and flagi- 
tious Practices, be depofed by them, if there be no 
fpecial Oaths nor Obligations upon their Con- 
fciences to the contrary ; which is our prefent Cafe : 
Much lefs did I it out of any Malice or Revenge 
for the Injuflice I received from him in the Exe- 
cutions done upon my Perfon and Eftate, which I 
have long fince cordially forgiven, and do now a- 
gain forgive him from my Soul, befeeching God 
to forgive him likewife ; but meerly to difcover his 
former Errors in this Kind unto himfelf, that he 
might ferioufly repent of them for the prefent, and 

more 



ef E N G L A N D. 307 

more carefully avoid and deleft them for Time td An. 24 Car. I. 

come ; and that the Parliament and whole King- l6 * 8 - 

dom might more clearly difccrn the great Danger D etnbr 

Our Religion was in, before we publickly difcern'd 

it, and the feveral Ways and Stratagems by which 

Popery got fuch Head and Growth among us, that 

they might thereby the better prevent the like Plots 

and Dangers for the future by wholefome Laws 

and Edifts, as I have more largely declared in the 

Books themfelves. 

'This grand Prejudice againft me being thus The fecondpre- 
removed, I proceed to the fecond, to wit, That I judice. 
am an Enemy to the Army \ and therefore what I 
(hall fpeak, may be interpreted to proceed only 
from Oppofition againft them and their Remon- 
ftrance, concerning which I freely uttered my fud- 
den Thoughts immediately after its reading in the 
Houfe. , 

' To this I anfwer* That I have always been a 
real Friend and Well-wiftier to this Army from he Anfwcr to 
their firft modelling till now, in whatever they 
have a6ted in their Sphere, as Soldiers, for the 
Public Safety. When they were firft formed into 
a Body, the Committee of Accounts, whereof I 
was a Member, and thofe they engaged, advanced 
about Thirty Thoufand Pounds, of the Fourfcore 
Thoufand, to fet them out. Since that, I have 
freely contributed towards their Pay : prayed con- 
ftantly for their good Succefs ; joined in all public 
Thankfgivings for the Victories obtained by th-jin ; 
made honourable Mention of them and their he- 
roic Actions in fome of my Writings ; and par- 
ticularly dedicated one Book, I fince compiled, to 
the General himfelf, as I had done former Books 
to others of your Generals, for to do him all the 
Honour that poflibly I could foj his renowned 
Actions. Bcfides, I have lately figned Warrant* 
to get in their Arrears, and promoted an Ordi- 
nance for that Purpofe all I could, fince rny En- 
trance into this Houfe. All which confidered, 
with this Addition, that fome of them have been 
my anticnt intimate Friends, and never did me the 
U 2 Icuft 



go& The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. Meaft Injury, I hope no Member can be fo partial, 

l648 ' f as to repute me fuch a profefled Enemy to them, 

December. as * n ^^ g ran< ^ Debate, to go againft my Judg- 

ment or Confcience in Oppolition only unto their 

Defires. True it is, when the Army have forgot 

their Duty, or offered any Violence to the Privi- 

leges, Members Freedom, or Proceedings of Par- 

liament, or endeavoured to engage them to break 

their public Faith to the King or Kingdom, in 

breaking off the Treaty, contrary to their Votes 

and Engagement, or to infringe their Solemn 

League and Covenant, or to inforce them to fubvert 

the fundamental Government, Laws, and Liber- 

ties of the Kingdom, or the very Freedom and Be- 

ing of Parliament, as they have done in their late 

Remonftrance and Declaration, and feme other 

printed Papers fmce and heretofore, I have then, 

in Difcharge of my Covenant, Confcience, and 

Duty, oppofed, and fpoken againft thefe their Ex- 

orbitances, as much as any ; not out of Malice, 

but only out of Love, to reclaim them from their 

evil deftrudtive Courfes and Councils, according to 

God's own Precept, Leviticus xix. 17. Tboujhalt 

not bate thy Brother in thy Heart ; but Jball in any" 

wife rebuke thy Neighbour, and not fujfer Sin up- 

on him. And feeing I have always, with like 

Freedom, oppofed and written againft the Exor- 

bitances and Errors of the King, Court, Prelates, 

Parliament, Committees, Prcfbyterians, Indepen- 

dents, Lawyers, and all other Sorts of Men in Re- 

ference to the Public Good, the Army and their 

Friends have no Caufe at all to cenfure me as their 

Enemy; but rather to efteem me as their Friend, 

for ufmg the like Freedom towards them, and their 

Exorbitances, efpecially in this Houfe. 

The Qucfiion, as ' Having removed thefe two Prejudices, I fhall 
ptopofed, con- now addrefs myfelf to the Queftion in Debate, which 

'" S hath been thuS 



s 

the Ticaty, ' Whether the Kings Anfivers to the Proportions of 
loth JHoufeS) taken altogether upon the whole Treaty , be 
fatisfaftory or unfathfaftory ? 



^ENGLAND. 

* This being an equivocal Queftion, not hither- 
to clearly ftated and debated by thofe who have 
fpoken to it, moft of them being much miftaken 
in it, I muft crave Leave to give you the true State 
of it, before I {hall debate it; for which Purpofe 
I mult diftinguifh in what Senfe it is not fatisfac- 
tory to any in this Houfe,.and yet in what Refpeft 
it will appear fatis factory to all or moft of us who 
are not blinded with Paffion or Prejudice againft 
the King, or mifled by Affection meerly to pleafe 
the Army ; which many have made their principal 
Argument wherefore it is not fatisfactory, 

4 If the Queftion be propounded and intended 
in this Senfe, Whether the King's Anfwers to all 
the Proportions be fatisfaclory ? that is, Whether 
the King hath granted all the Proportions fent 
unto him in as large and ample Manner as both 
Houfes did propound them ? then it is certain his 
Anfwers are not fatisfactory in that which concerns 
Delinquents, Bifhops, and Bimops Lands, and the 
Covenant, though they are voted fatisfactory as to 
all the reft by both Houfes. And, in this Senfe 
only, thofe who have concluded them not fatisfac- 
tory, have ftated and difputed the Queftion. 

* But this, under Favour, neither is nor can be 
the State or Senfe of the Queftion, for thefe Rea- 
fons : 

Fir/I, t Becaufe thefe Proportions were fent by 
the Houfes to the King, not as Bills of Parlia- 
ment, to be granted in Termini^ without Debate 
or Alteration ; but only as Propofttions to be de- 
bated and treated upon perfonally with the King, 
as the Votes of both Houfes, and Inftru&ions to 
the Commiffioners fent to the Ifle of Wight ^ refolve 
paft all Difputc. Now it is directly contrary to 
the Nature of all Treaties, cfpecially fuch as are 
Perfonal, to tie up the Parties of either Side fo 
precifely that they mail have no Liberty to vary 
from their firft Propofals in any Particular; or if 
they condefend not to whatever was at firft de- 
manded by the ftrongcr Party, that the Condj- 
U 3 fee uior.f 




jio The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. 'fcentlons (hould not be fatisfactory, though they 

t l6 4&- ^ yield to all juft Things, and fall fhort only in fome 

December. ^ ew ^ ^ ea ^ Concernment. This is evident by all 
Treaties heretofore between England, France, 
Spain, and other foreign Nation?, If you perufc 
their firft Demands, which were never conde- 
fcended to, but always receded from and qualified 
in fome Particulars on either Side ; Iniquum petas^ 
nt "Jujium ferns, being a Rule in Treaties among 
Statefmen. There have been many Treaties, du- 
ring thefe Wars, between the Officers of the Par- 
liament and King's Party, about Surrenders of di- 
vers Cities and Garrifons, wherein the firft Pro- 
pofitions on either Side have been moderated or 
changed, and yet agreed and accepted at laft as 
fatisfa&ory to both Siles. In all ordinary Trea- 
ties concerning Marriages, Purchafes, and ordi- 
nary Bargains in Fairs, Markets, or Shops, there 
are ufually greater Sums of Money demanded at firft 
on the one, and lefs proffered on the other Side, 
than is accepted and given at laft ; and yet both 
Parties clofe, agree, and are well fatisfied : So may 
\ve do now with the King upon the whole Treaty, 
tho' the King grants not fully all that we at fi,rft 
propofed. 

Secondly, c Becaufe the Houfes have already voted 
the King's Conceflions of the Great Offices of Eng- 
land and Ireland to be t their Difpofal for twenty 
Years, to be fatisfaclory, though their Demand was 
for Perpetuity ; which they would not have done, 
had the Satisfa&orinefs of the King's Anfwers de- 
pended upon the full Conceffion of that Proportion 
3s amply as it is penn'd. 

Thirdly, ' Becaufe the Houfes in their laft Pro- 
pofitions demand far more than ever they did in 
moft former Treaties, and the King hath granted 
them more now in this than they have demanded 
heretofore ; &nd therefore having granted more 
than what would have 'fully fatisfied them in for- 
mer Treaties, his Conceflions in this may be fully 
futisfactory to us, fo far as to clofe with him, to 
fettle a firm Peace in the Kingdom, now at -the 

Brink 



of E N G L A N D. 

Brink of Ruin, tho' they fall fhort in fome Things An. 14 c*r. j. 
which we now propounded, which do not fe much 
concern our Security, as I (hall prove anon. 

The true State then and Senle of this Queftion 
rauft be this and no other : 

* Jf/lsethcr the King 1 1 final Anfwers to the Propifi- Tl* Qucfti 
tions of both Houfesin this Treaty, confiiered and weighed truly 
all together, be not fo full and fat'ufaflory in themjel-ves, 
that this Houfe may and ought to accept of and j>r.c:t'l 
upon them for the fpeedy Settlement of a Jaff and ivsll- 
grounded Peace, both in Church and Commonwealth^ 
rather than reject them as unjatisfafiory and fo hazard 
the Lofs of all, and the perpetuating of our [fairs and 



In this Senfe I humbly conceive, and hope to 
evidence them fo clearly and fully fkttsfa&bry, that 
we can neither, in point of Duty, Prudence, Juftice 
and Honour or Confcience, reject them as unfatis- 
factory, but ought to embrace them as the only fafe 
and ready Way to our Peace and Settlement, though 
they come not up fo fully to fome of our Propoli- 
tions, as I could have heartily dcfircd for the avoid- 
ing of this hazardous Dcbr.tr. 

* For my clearer Pro^cfs in thie grand Debate, 
I fhall obferve this Method. 

Flrjl, ' I fhall clearly mamfeft, That the King, 
in this Treaty, hath granted us whatlbevcr we can 
well defire for the prefent Settlement and future Se- 
curity of the Commonwealth or State, when ratified 
by Ac~h and a Regal Oath, as is intended ; yea, far 
more than ever our Anceftors, or any Subjects in 
the ChrilUan World, enjoyed or di-fired of their 
Kings, for their Security and Prefervation againft 
thsir armed Power, or legal Prerogatives. 

Secondly , Th?.t the King hath granted as much, 
in this Treaty, as will fettle and fecurc the Peace 
and Government of our Church and Religion 
againfr. Popery and Prelacy on the one Hand, and 
Profancnefs on the other Hand ; and more than \vc 
or .my Protcftrnt Churches ever enjoyed, or de- 
manded heretofore, for their Security and Scttlc- 
Dieut. 

U'4 'When 



3 1 2 %? Parliamentary HISTORY 

Afa. -Li, Car, I. ' < When I have made good thefe Particulars, 
l ^4* and anfwered the Objections made againft them, 

December ^ n P e ever y one f us wno nave an / Ingenuity, 
Reafon, or Confcience in their Breads, and are 
not tranfported with Pa|fton, or private Engage- 
ments to the contrary, will, and muft of Neceflity, 
vote thefe Anfwers fatisfactory in the Senfe fore- 
ftated. 

* I fhall begin with the firft of thefe, namtly, 
The King's Anfwers to all thofe Propofitions which 
concern the prefent Settlement and future Security 
of the State and Republic, againft any arm'd Force 
or Invafions of the Regal Prerogative to the enfla- 
ving or prejudicing of the Subject ; which in my 
poor Judgment, are fo full and fatisfacliory, that 
little or nothing can be added to them; and if we 
well confider them we have caufe to fay, 

O fortunatl Nlmium buna fi fua nor int. 

J fhall give you a full View of them all, becaufe 
many of them have not been fo much as once re- 
membered in this Debate, and apply them to our 
prefent Settlement and future Safety, as I mention 
them. 

The fiifl Propo- e "^ ne fi r ^ Propofition, for the Settlement of a 
Ction concerning fafe and well-grounded Peace, is that which con- 
theKhg's recal- cerns tnc Juftification of the Parliament's War, de- 
t?onl, &c!aEa r ?n~ft daring it, by an Acl of Parliament to bepaff^d, to 
the Parliament, be in their juft and lawful Defence; juftifying the 
fully granted by Solemn League and Covenant in profccution there- 
theBeneVt ac- ^5 ani ^ repealing all Oaths, Declarations, and Pro- 
cruing to the clamations heretofore had, or hereafter to be had, 
Kjngdom there- a g am ft both or either Houfes of Parliament, their 
Ordinances, or Proceedings ; or againft any for 
adhering unto, or executing any Office, Place, 
or Charge under them ; and all Judgments, Indict- 
ments, Outlawries, Attainders, and Inquifitions 
in any of the faid Caufes ; and all Grants there- 
upon made, had, or to be made or had, to be de- 
clared null, fupprelTed, forbidden, and never put 
jnto Execution : And this to be publifhed in all 
Parifh Churches, and all other Places needful, within 
hjs Majefty's Dominions. * To 



rf E N G L A N D. 313 

4 To this proemial and advantageousPropofuion, An. 24 Car. I. 
the King hath fully and readily condefcended at firft, |6 4*- 
in every Tittle, as was defired. DccembeT 

' By this Conceffion the Parliament hath gained 
fundry coniiderable Advantages, tending to their 
prefent Honour and future Security. 

i/?, * A full, public, Acknowledgment of the 
Juftnefs of their War and Caufe, to be ratified and 
perpetuated to Pofterity by the higheft Record that 
can be, an Act of Parliament; and that to be read 
in all Parifti Churches throughout Eugland^ Ire- 
land^ and other the King's Dominions ; and pro- 
claimed in all Counties, Cities, Corporations, and 
at Affixes and Seffions of the Peace, that fo all 
Men may take public Notice of it ; which is fuch 
an Honour to, and Juftification of, them and their 
Caufe, as was never condefcended to by any King, 
that took up Arms aguinft his Subjects, fmce the 
Creation to this prefent ; and fo low a Humilia- 
tion and legal Difclaimer, in the King, of his War 
againft the Parliament, and Difavowal of his Caufe 
and Party, as could poifibly be imagined or ex- 
pefted. 

2^//y, * It fecures the Lives, Liberties, and 
Eftares of all the Members of both Houfes engaged 
in thefe Wars; and of all Perfons whatfoever that 
have adhered to, or acled for them, againft all for- 
mer, prefent, and future Impeachments, Profecu- 
tions, and Judgments whatfoever ; and makes void 
and null whatever hath been, is, or may be ob- 
jected againft them ; which, coupled with the Act 
of Indemnity and Oblivion, propofed by the King 
and agreed to by the Houfes, will extraordinarily 
fecure, pacify, and content all well-afFe&ed Mem- 
bers and Perfons who have adhered to them in this 
Caufe, and preferve them from the Danger of 
25 Ed. III. and other Laws concerning Treafons j 
which otherwife, upon any Revolution of Times 
and Affairs, might, by corrupt Judges and Inftru- 
ments, be extended and wrefted to their Prejudice 
and Undoing. 




ffle Parliamentary HISTORY 

3^/f, * It Jays a Foundation for the Lawfulnefs 
_ of a defennve War by Authority of both Houfcs, 
December u P on tne like Occasion, in all future Ages, with- 
<jut incurring the Guilt of Treafon or Rebellion ; 
which will be a great Encouragement and Security 
to the Subjects, and Engagement to them to adhere 
unto the Parliament in after Times. 

4//X, ' It will very much difcourage and deter 
all Kind of Men from taking upArms in the King's, 
his Heirs and Succeflbrs, Behalf, againft the Houfes 
of Parliament, when they fhall caft their Eyes up- 
on this Act, and behold the King himfelf palling 
fuch a Cenfure upon all his own Proceedings, and 
retracting his own Oaths, Proclamations, Com- 
miflions, Indictments, and Grants, again ft fuch 
Members and all others who have now taken up 
Arms againft him, for the Houfes and Kingdom's 
Defence. 

' So as this very firft Propofition only, if well 
weigh'd, without any others added thereunto, be- 
ing fo fully and freely confented unto by the King, 
tends very far towards our prefent Settlement and 
future Safety ; being more than was ever thought 
of or defired in the Treaty of Peace, in February 
and March 164.2. 

The Propofition ' The fecond Propofition fully granted by the 
for the Militia King, for the' fettling and fecuring of the State, 
fully confented an d Religion too, againft the King's arm'd Power, 
Sdthektag- 8 ' is the fettlin g of the whole Militia by Sea and 
dom'sAdvantage Land, and Navy of England, Ireland, and thelfles 
and Security a r i- an d Dominions thereunto belonging, by Act of 

fmgfron thence. 



, 

fmgfron thence. p adiament) in ^ jj^ ^ D j fpofal of 

Houfes, and fuch as they {hall appoint, for the 
Space of twenty Years ; with Power to raife Mo- 
nies for all Forces raifed by them for Land or Sea 
Service, during that Space of Time ; which Forces 
are authorized to fupprefs all Forces railed, or to be 
raifed, in, or any foreign Forces which fhall invade, 
the Realms of England, Ireland, or the Domi- 
nions and Ifles thereunto belonging, without Au- 
thority and Confent of the Lords and Commons in 

Par- 



of E N G L A N D. 315 

Parliament. And it further provides, That after An< a i * t g ar - ' 

the Expiration of the faid twenty Years, neither , ' 4 ' , 

the King, his Heirs or Succeflbrs, nor any Perfon December. 
or Perfons, by Colour or Pretence of any Com- 
miflion, Power, Deputation, or Authority to be 
derived from the King, his Heirs or Succeflbrs, or 
any of them, (hall raife, array, train, employ, or 
difpofe of any of the Forces by Sea or Land of the 
Kingdoms of England, and Ireland, the Dominion 
of flrb&f, Ifles of Guernfey, and Jerfey, or of Ber- 
wick upon Tweed - y nor execute any Power or Au- 
thority touching the fame, inverted in the two 
Houfes during the Space of twenty Years ; nor do 
any Act or Thing concerning the Execution there- 
of, without the Confent of the Lords and Com- 
mons firft had and obtained. And that after the 
Expiration of the faid twenty Years, in all Cafes 
wherein the Lords and Commons fhall declare the 
Safety of the Kingdom to be concerned, and fhall 
thereupon pafs any Bill for the raifmg, arming, 
training, and difpofing of the Forces by Sea and 
Land of the Kingdoms, Dominions, Ifles, and 
Places aforefaid, or concerning the levying of Mo- 
nies for the fame, if the King, his Heirs or Suc- 
ccffors, fhall not give the Royal AfTent thereto, 
within fuch Time as both Houfes {hould think 
convenient, that then fuch Bill or Bills, after De- 
claration made by |he Lords and Commons in that 
Behalf, (hall have the Force and Strength of an 
Act or Ab of Parliament, and be as valid, to all 
Intents and Purpofcs, as if the Royal AfTent had 
been given thereunto. After which it difablcs any 
Sheriff, Juftice of the Peace, Mayors, or other 
Officers of Juftice, to levy, conduct, or employ 
any Forces whatfoever, by Colour or Pretence of 
any Commifiion of Array, or extraordinary Com- 
mand from the King, his Heirs or Succcflbrs, 
without Confent of both Houfes : And concludes, 
That if any Perfons, to the Number of thirty, fhalJ 
be gathered together in warlike Manner, or other- 
wife, and not forthwith difband themfelves, being 
thereunto required by the Lords and Commons, or 

Com- 



3 1 6 be Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. a* Car. 1. Command from them, or any other fpecially au- 

\ l64 . 8 - -.- -- 1 t ' 10 " zet ^ by them, that then fuch Perfon or Pcr- 

Dec ember. fons, not fo difbanding, fhall be guilty and incur 

the Pains of High Treafon j any Commiflion un- 

der the Great Seal, or other Warrant to the con- 

tray notwithftanding, and be incapable of any Par- 

don from his Majefty, his Heirs and Succeflbrs, 

and their Eftates difpofed of as the Lords and 

Commons {hall think fit. 

' To all this new, grand, principal Security of our 
prefent and future Peace and Settlement the King 
hath given his full and free Confent in Terminis. 
And what greater Security than this we can ima- 
gine or demand againft the King's armed Power 
and Sword of \Var, tranfcends my Capacity to 
imagine : Therefore, if we have not loft both our 
Brains and Confciences too, we cannot but vote 
and conclude it fatisfa&ory, and reft abundantly 
contented with, yea exceeding thankful for, it j and 
that upon all thefe enfuing Confiderations. 

Firft, < Both Houfes, in their Treaty with the 
King in February and March 1642, demanded 
only the Militia of England, not of Ireland (c) ; yet 
fo, as they did leave the Nomination and Difpoft~ 
tion of the chief Commanders, Officers, and Gover- 
nors of the Militia, Forts, and Navy of the King- 
dom, to the King ; provided only they might be fuch 
Perfons of Honour and Trujl as both Houfes might 
confide in ; and likeivife promife Rejlitution of all 
Monies, Forts, Garrifons, Arms, and Ammunition 
cf the King, which they had fcized upon, or to give 
him prefent Satisfaction for the fame ; which being 
granted and performed, they profejjed it Jhould be 
their hopeful Endeavour that his Mujejiy and his 

People 



(c) 
public 



c) In this and many other Inilances, where Mr. Prynnc cites any 
Afts of the King or Parliament, he refers to Hujbandt's 
ions in Sparta and Folio ; and, for the Declarations, &c. of the 
Army, to th^ original Editions of them in the fingle Pamphlets re- 
fpe<Sively : Infteid whereof, for the Reader's Eafe, we have let down 
the Pages where thofe Vouchers are inferted in our foregoing Volumes ; 
to which we have alfo added fome other Rcterences cccafionally, by 
way of Iliuftration. 

The Matter now before us may be found in Vol. X. p. 285 and 
jlj: IB Vol. XII. p. 148, 156, 182, 196, et fcf, 




of ENGLAND. 

People might enjoy the Blejjlng of Peace , &c. to le de- 
rived to him and to his Royal Poftcrity, and the future 
Generations in this Kingdcm^ for ever. Whereas, December" 
in this Treaty, the King dcnudeth himfelf of the 
Militia of England and Ireland too, and of the No- 
mination and Approbation of all Officers, Com- 
manders, Governors of the Militia, or Forces by 
Sea or Land ; and leaves all the Forts, Navy, and 
Magazines to the Houfes Difpofal only, without 
any Compenfation for his Magazines or Arms for- 
merly feized by them. And if far lefs was deemed 
fufficient for our Settlement and Security then, much 
more will all this be thought fo now. 

Secondly, ' Becaufe the King hath wholly ftript 
himfelf, his Heirs and Succcfibrs for ever, of all that 
Power and Intereft which his Predeceflbrs always 
enjoyed in the Militia, Forces, Forts, Navy, not 
only of England, but Ireland, Wales, Jerfey, Gnern- 
fey, and Berwick too, fo as he and they can neither 
raife nor arm one Man, nor introduce any foreign 
Forces into any of them, by virtue of any Com- 
miffion, Deputation, or Authority, without Con- 
fent of both Houfes of Parliament ; and hath veft- 
ed the fole Power and Difpofal of the Militia, 
Forts, and Navy of all thefe in both Houfes, in 
fuch ample Manner, that they (hall never patt 
with it to any King of England, unk-fs they pleafe 
themfelves : So as the King and his Heirs have no 
military Power or Authority at all left, to injure 
or opprefs the meaneft Subjedr, much left the whole 
Kingdom, or Houfes of Parliament, had they Wills 
to do it ; and the Houfes having all the Militia by 
Land and Sea, not only of England, but even of Ire- 
land, Wales, Guernsey, Jofey, and Berwick, to affift 
and fecure them, in cale he or his Heirs fhould at- 
tempt to raife any domeftic, or introduce any foreign 
Force, againft them, is fo grand, fo firm a Security, 
in all human Probability, for infuriug and prefer- 
ring of our Peace, Religion, Laws, Liberties, Lives-, 
and Eftates, againft reg.il Force and Tynuiny, that 
none of our Anceftors ever demanded or enjoyed 
the like, nor no other Kingdom whaiibcvcr, irice 

the 




Parliamentary H I s T o R Y" 
the Creation, for ought that I can find in HiftorieS 
or Republicks, who have perufed moft now extant 
December, to do you Service ; and fuch a felf-denying Con- 
defcention in the King to his People, in this Par- 
ticular, as no Age can yield a Precedent. 

4 In the 1 6th Year of King John (b), the Barons 
having, by Force of Arms, compelled him to con- 
firm the Great Charter at Runningmead, near 
J^indfor^ thought this their greateft Security, that 
twenty-five of the eminenteft Barons fhould be 
made Confervators of Magna Charta, and that all 
the reft of the Barons and People fhould take an 
Oath to be aiding and aflifting to them in the Pre- 
fervation thereof; and the King fhould furrender 
into their Hands his four principal Caftles, that fo* 
if he infringed this Charter, they might compel him 
to obferve it. This was the higheft Militia and 
Security of that Kind our Anceftors ever demanded 
or enjoyed, (which is nothing comparable unto that 
now granted us by the King) who refted fatisfied 
therewith. 

3<//y, Becaufe the King and his Succeflbrs are 
hereby not only totally difabled to raife any Forces 
to opprefs the People, or difturb their Peace and 
Settlement, but all Perfons difcouraged from aid- 
ing or aflifting them by any Commiffien or Au- 
thority whatfoever, under Pain of High Treafon, 
and Lofs both of Life and Eftate, at the Pleafure 
of both Houfes, without any Benefit of Pardon 
from the King, difabled for to grant it. So great 
a Difcouragement for any Perfons of Fortune or 
Quality, to appear for the King or his Party in 
the Field, for Time to come, that, in all human 
Probability, none ever will or dare appear in 
Arms hereafter for the King, againft the Parlia r 
ment, being fure to forfeit all without any Hopes of 
Pardon. And if this Athad been parTed as a Law 
before our Wars, I dare prefume not any one Eng^ 
HJh Lord or Gentleman durft once to have appear'd 

in 

(I) Sc- Matthew Part), MatilnuWtfimir.fttr, tJoUinJhtad, Sfted, 
and Daniel IB hi* Life of ibis Kme - Ail'o in cur fc'irit Voiume, 



of ENGLAND. 319 

in the Field for the King, and we had never felt the An. 24 Car. I. 
Miferies of a Civil War. , 

4f/;/v, * Becaufc the Militia of Ireland, Jerfey, 
Guernftyj and It ales as well as England, is wholly 
transferred from the King to the Houfes ; fo as we 
need fear no Danger thence : And the Militia of 
Scotland being in their Parliament's Difpofal, if we 
hold a brotherly Corrcfpondcncy with them, I know 
no other Enemies we need to fear} for the Navy 
being in the Houfes Power, we need not fear any 
foreign Invafion that can hurt us, if we can agree 
at home. 

4 All which confidered, I dare aflert, we have The King hatk 
now the greateft Security of any People under 8 ranted the P- 

TT n 11 i i T> r> Lament the Dif- 

Heaven, agamft all armed regal Force or Power ; po f al of alj great 

the King having given up all his Military Power Offices, civij, 
into the Houfes aftual Pofleffion, and refigned his f cia };J" d MU 
Sword and Arms into their Hands. And if we re- Years, bothia 
fufe to accept it, now he fo freely refigns it, we England and lr- 
may fight till Doomfday, but never win nor hope land< 
for the like Security or Advantage; yea the pre- 
fent Age and all Poilerity will curfe and abhor us, 
for not embracing and refting fatisfied with fuch an 
unparalleled Security. 

4 But is this all the Security the King hath grant- TheSecurity 
cd us in this Treaty ? No verily, there is yet much n<1 Conference 
more behind which hath not yet; been opened. tlicreof " 
The Kings of England have always held two Swords 
in their Hands ; which, when ill managed, have 
hurt and deftroyed their Subjects : The firft is the 
Sword of Mars in Times of War, which is al- 
ready (heathed, and refigned into the Houfes Hands 
by the precedent Conceflions, fo as it can never 
wound them more : The other is the Sword of 
Juftice, in Times of Peace ; and this likewife the 
King hath wholly given up into the Hutifcs Power, 
for twenty Years, as he hath the T.Tiiiiia j fo that 
it can never hurt them, nor any Engltjhtnan or o- 
ther Subject hereafter, at leaft for tvc-nty Years. 

' This Sword was formerly intruded by the 

King in the Judges ar^ Jie great Ofikxrs Hands i 

had they been io coura^ious, fo upright nn tliey 

4 ihuuld, 



36 The Parliamentary HISTORY" 

An. 24 Car. I. fhould, the King could never have wounded of 
t l6 * g ' J ruined the meaneft of his Subjects with this Swoid* 
December Ship-money, Knighthood, with other Grievances 
and Monopolies, neither would nor could have been 
impofed on the People by the King's Prerogative or 
Power, had the Judges, according to Law and Du- 
ty, declared them illegal. The King can do no 
Injuftice to any, if his Judges be fo juft and (tout 
as to do Juftice. Whereupon this Houfe im- 
peached only the Judges, not blaming the King 
for the Project of Ship-money, to which their O- 
pinions in Mr. Hampdens Cafe, gave Life and Vi- 
gor. Now the King, in this Treaty, hath for 
twenty Years at leaft, granted to both Houfes the 
Nomination and Appointment of all the great Of- 
ficers, Civil or Military, and of all the Judges and 
Barons of his Courts and Exchequers within Eng- 
land and Ireland^ to continue in their Places only 
quamdiu bene fe gejjerint. So as thefe great Of- 
ficers and Judges having now no Dependance at 
all upon the King, who can neither place nor dif- 
place any of them, but wholly upon the Houfes of 
Parliament, and fuch as they fhall appoint to no- 
minate them in the Intervals of Parliament ; if the 
Houfes have a Care to make good Officers and 
Judges in all Courts at firft, and to difplace and 
punifh them, as they may and ought to do, when 
they degenerate or mifdemean themfelves, the 
King, with all his legal Power now left him, can 
neither injure nor opprefs the pooreft Subject in 
Body, Goods, or Eftate, nor protect the greateft 
Malefactor from Juftice. And what more can we 
defire or expect for the Security of our Lives, Li- 
berties, or Eftates than this ? 

' Befides, as the King hath intruded you with 
the Sword and Courts of Juftice and Revenue, fo 
hath he with his Confcience and Courts of Equity 
too : You have the Nomination of the Lord-Chan- 
cellors, Lord- Keepers, and Commiffioners of his 
Great Seals of England and Ireland, of the Chan- 
cellors of the Exchequer and Duchy, and Mafters 
of the Rolls, as well in Ireland as England, who 



of E N G L A N CT. 32J 

arc the Difpenfers of his Equity and Confcience to An. 24 Car. I. 
his Subjects ; the Uluers of all his Commiflions, t l648 ' 
Writs, Patents; and Keepers of all his public Re- 
cords. If this be not enough, you have the Dif- 
pofal of his Purfe and Treaftire too ; the Nomi- 
nation of the Lord Treafurers, both of England and 
Ireland ; of the Chancellors and Barons of the Ex- 
chequers in both, and of trie Vice-Treafu'rer and 
Treafurer of the Wars in Ireland : Would you 
have yet more ? You have the Nomination of the 
Lord-Deputy and Chief Governor of Ireland^ and 
of all the Prefidents of the feyeral Provinces of that 
Kingdom for twenty Years ; and of all other the 
before-named great Officers, Judges, and Treafur- 
ers there ; a great Strength and real Addition to the 
Militia of that Kingdom, which can never do us 
Harm, if we accept of thcfc Concefiions, which 
inveft us in fuch Power there, as no Parliament 
of England ever yet expected nor laid Claim to. 
What is there" yet remaining for your Safety ? Per- 
chance you will fufpeft the King may have many 
fbcret Defigns and Intercourfes. with foreign Ene- 
mies and States, and grand Malignants at home, 
to undo all, which we (hall never difcover with- 
out fome further Provifior.s than yet we have 
made. Truly no; you have a Remedy already 
provided and granted for this : The Nomination 
and Appointing of the Lord -Warden of the Cir.^ue 
Ports, the principal Gates to let in, or keep out, 
foreign Enemies or Spies; and of the Secretaries 
of State, who will be privy to all his Majcil) 's 
Secrets and Tranfaclicns of public Concernment ; 
receive all Letters of Intelligence directed to 1. 
and moft commonly return all Anfwers to them. 
There is now but one Tiling more wanting to 
make this Security compleat and linn, the King's 
Great Seals of England and I)\-lttn.l, the vc:ileft 
regal Aflurance and Confirmation he can give y, u ; 
and of thcfc you have both the Cuitody and Ditpu- 
fal, having the Nomination and Appointment both 
.of the Lotd-Chancellors, Lord Keepers, atld Com- 
miflioners of the Great Seal in England and Jr. 
VOL. XVIII. X To 



322 The. Parliamentary H i s T o R v 

An 24. Car. I. < To f um U p z \\ thefe Grants together : Some 
^ __j Parliaments, in former Times, have had the Noir.i- 

Decembcr. nation of the Lord-Chancellor, fome of the Lord- 
Treafurer, fome of the Great Jufticiar, or fome few 
Judges of England only ; but never any Parlia- 
ment of England claimed, or enjoyed, the Nomina- 
tion and Appointment of any of the great Officers, 
Barons, Judges, or Treafurers Places in Ireland^ 
nor yet of the Lord -Warden of the Cinque Ports, 
Chancellors of the Exchequer and Duchy, Secre- 
taries of State, Mafter of the Rolls, or Barons of 
the Exchequer of England ; and yet all thefe the 
King, for Peace Sake, hath parted with to us ; and 
(hall we be yet fo froward and peevifh, as not to 
be fatisfied with all thefe Offices ? We have a long 
Time mocked and abufed the World with a Self- 
denying Ordinance (c) t difabling any Member to 
retain or receive any Civil or Military Office by 
Grant from the Houfes, whilft he continues a Mem- 
ber ; though there is fcarce one Day, or Week at 
leaft, doth pafs, but we are ftill beftowing fome 
Plac6 or Office upon Members, for which we are 
Weekly cenfured and reviled in printed Pamphlets, 
and are become odious to the Kingdom : But here 
is a Self-denying A6t and Ordinance in good earneft, 
in the King, in parting with fo many Offices (of 
which he and his PredecefTors have had the fole 
Difpofal for fome Ages without Interruption) to 
the Houfes ; and (hall we not yet reft fatisfied ? If 
not, what will the whole Kingdom, what will all 
foreign Kingdoms and Nations, report of us, but 
that we are fo foolifli, fo unreafonable, that nothing 
can or will content us, becaufe we are refolved not 
to be content with any Thing that the King mail 
grant us, be it ever fo advantageous for our prefent 
or future Safety and Settlement ? 

' But feeing 'we have the Difpofal of all thefe 
Officers in England and Ireland, both Military and 
Civil, of his Sword of War and Peace, his Juftice, 

his 

fc) This Ordinancfe firft took its Rife from a Motion fnude in th 
Houfe of Commons by Lieutenant- General Cromivell, Theueiatc 
is given in 6ur Thirteenth Volume, p. 376, et^tj. 



of E N G L A D. 323 

his Confcience, his Purfe, his Treafury, his Papers, An. 24 Car. i 
his public Records, his Cabinet, his Great Seal, l648 ' t 
more than ever we at firft expected or defired, I November. 
muft really for my own Partj profefs myfelf abun- 
dantly fatisfied with thefe Conceflions, and fo muft 
every one who hath fo much Judgment as to un- 
derftand the Latitude and Confequences of them 
for the whole Kingdom's and dying Ireland's Safety 
and Settlement^ efpecially at this Seafon, when 
they are fo near their Ruin. 

* To this I {hall add another Grant of great 
Concernment for the Peace and Safety of this Na- 
tion, which the King hath fully conferited to in 
this Treaty ; and I prefume no Member of this 
Houfe will reft unfatisfied therewith when he fully 
underftands ih 

c Both Houfes of Parliament, upon the Lord- The King hath 
Keeper Littletons deferting of the Houfe {JL **&"******* . 

i ^>i 5 o i i / i / new Great Seal, 

conveying away the Great Seal, were pleafed, for an a all that hath 
the better Distribution of Juftice, and Tranfaftion P afl ed under it ; 
of the great Affairs of the Realm, to appoint a new J U whatever ld ' 
Great Seal to be made j the Ordinance for its Ap- pafad under the 
probation and Ufe (licking long in the Lords Houfe, Authority there- 
who were fomewhat doubtful In point of Law, I ^JVwa* 8 
thereupon compiled and publifhed a Treatife, in- from the Houfes. 
tituled, The Opening of the Great Seal of England, 
which fully fatisfied them, and opened the Doors 
to let it out for public Ufe ; though fome who have 
had the Cuftody of it, as you, Mr. Speaker, know, 
have but ill requited me for this my Pains and good 
Service. Many Grants, Commiflions,Prefentations, 
Writs, Procefs, Proceedings,, and other Things, 
-have parted under this great Seal, and fome Pa- 
tents for Offices and Bifhops Lands to Members of 
this Houfe, who differ in Opinion from me, and 
yet would be glad to have their Patents confirmed 
by an At of Parliament : The King, in this 
Treaty hath not only confcnted to ratify all the 
Grants, &c. that have paifcd under this new Great 
Seal, by A6t of Parliament, and to enat them to 
X 2 be 

(</) The Manner of the Lord-Keeper's lc.iving the Parlitmenr, and 
his Reafons fer fo doing, may be found in our Eleventh Volume 
p. 47 and" 123. 



3 14 *The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 14 Car. l.be as effectual to all Intents and Purpofes, as if 
l64 *- they had pafled under any other Great Seal of En- 
Decembcr gland heretofore ufed ; but to continue it to be ufed 
hereafter for the Great Seal of England: And hath 
likewife fo far difclaimed his old Great Seal, from 
the Day it was carried from the Parliament, that 
he is content to make and declare all Grants, Com- 
miffions, Prefentations, Writs, Procefs, Proceed- 
ings, and other Things whatfoever, pafled under 
or by any Authority of any other Great Seal, ftnce 
the 22d of May 1642, to be invalid and of 'no 
Effect, to all Intents and Purpofes, except one 
Grant to Mr. Juftice Bacon, to be Judge of the 
King's Bench, and fome other Writs, Procefs, and 
Commifilons mentioned in that Proportion : And 
he hath further yielded, That all Grants of Offices, 
Lands, Tenements, or Hereditaments, made or 
pafled under the Great Seal of Ireland, unto any 
Perfon or Perfons, or Body Politic, fince the Cef- 
fation in Ireland, the I5th of September, 1642, mall 
be null and void, with all Honours and Titles con- 
ferred on any Perfon or Perfons in that Realm fince 
that Ceflation. 

' By this Conceffion the Houfes of Parliament, 
and their Adherents, have gained thefe extraordi- 
nary Advantages, moft of them not to be parallel'd 
in any Age or King, from Adam till this prefent : 

!/?, An Acknowledgment of both Houfes Au- 
thority to make and ufe a new Great Seal of En' 
gland, without the King, in Cafes of extraordinary 
Neceflity. 

idly, * A Power in the Houfes to null and void 
the King's ufual Great Seal upon the making of 
their New, and conveying the old Seal from the 
Houfes without their Confent. 

3^/y, ' A Ratification of all judicial and mini- 
fterial A&s, Writs, Procefs, Prefentations, Grants, 
Decrees, Commiffions, and other Things which 
have pafled under the new Great Seal, fince its 
making till this prefent ; which tends much to the 
Quiet and Settlement of many Men's Eftates ; to 
the Confirmation and Juftification of all legal Pr j- 



^ENGLAND. 325 

ceedings in all Courts of Juftice, and at all Affixes An - *4 Car. I. 

and Seffions of Peace, held by virtue of Commif-. 

(ions under this Seal, and of Juftices appointed by 

it (whofc Authority and Proceedings might elfe 

hereafter prove disputable, and be drawn into 

Queftion) ; and to the right Conftitution of the 

Par! iament itfelf, many Members of this Houfe 

being ek&ed, and fome Members and AiEftants of 

the Lords Houfe being called thither, by Writs 

under this new Seal. 

4//;/y, ' An abfolute Difavowal ancl Repeal of 
all Commiflions whatfoever, or other Things paf- 
fcd under the old Great Seal, againft the Parlia- 
ment or its Proceedings ; and an Expofing of all 
thofe of the King's Party, who have atTted any 
Thing by any Commiffion or Authority under that 
Seal againft the Parliament, to public Juftice, who 
cannot plead it in Bar or Excufe in any Court, af- 
ter it (hall be nulled and repealed by an At. 

5/^/C, ' A great Difparagement, Difhonotir, and 
Disadvantage to the Englljh Cavaliers, Irift) R, bels, 
and their Caufe and Proceedings ; with a future dif- 
engaging of them, and all their Party, from the 
King and his Intcreft, who hath fo far dishonoured, 
deferted, and difclaimed them, as thus to null and 
repeal all Honours, Titles, Grants of Offices, 
Lands, or Tenements beftowed on any of them, 
for any Services done, or Afliftance given by them, 
to the King in his Wars againft the Parliament : 
A very high Point of Humiliation and Self-denial 
in the King, and fuch a Blow to his Popifh and 
Malignant Party, that I dare prefume they will 
never engage in his Behalf, nor truft him for the 
future j which will much conduce to the Settle- 
ment of a firm and lading Peace, and prevent new 
Wars, if accepted of. 

btbfyi c Indemnity and Security for all the Com- 
miffioncrs of the new Great Seal, againft all Scru- 
* pies which muy arife upon the Statute of 25 Ed" 
ward III. for ufmg and foaling with it, if ever the 
Times alter ; which eve.iy prudent Man will rea- 
dily embrace, where it is freeely orlx-rcd, and r.ot 
X 3 



326 *fhe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. pcevifhly reject, in fuch an Age of Danger and In- 

l6 + 8 - f certainty as this, in which no Man is fecure of his 

Dtceirbr Life, Liberty, or Eftate on either Side. 

* The next Conceflion of the King in this Trea- 
The Repeal of ty is this, That, by Aft of Parliament, all Peers 
all new Peerages, made Jlnce Edward Lord Littleton deferted the Par- 
nourf he ramed ^ arnent -> an ^ Conveyed away the Great Seal on the 
by the King; 2 i ft Day of May, 1642, Jhall be unpeer'd and fet 
with the Ccnfe- by and all other Titles of Honour and Precedency , 
fences thereof, ^ Lordfap, Knighthood, and the like, conferred on 
any without Confent of both Houfcs of Parliament, 
fince the zotb Day of May, 1642, Jhall be revoked, 
and declared null and void, to all Intents, and never 
hereafter put in Ufe j and that no Peer who Jhall be 
hereafter made by the King, his Heirs or Suaeffors t 
Jhall fit or vote in the Parliament of England, with- 
out Confent of both Houfes of Parliament. "This 
Conceflion of the King's is of great Concernment to 
the Kingdom, and, I conceive, without Precedent 
or Example in any Age or King in the Chriftian 
World. 

\ft. e It fecures us from our formerly feared 
Danger of a Defign in the King, by new-created 
Peers, to make an over-ruling Farty, at any Time, 
in the Lords Houfe. wherein the Jucncatory of the 
Parliament principally confifts ; which Danger and 
Inconvenience, by fecluding the Bilhops out of that 
Hcufe by an Acl: already paffed, and by this dif- 
abling all new Peers hereafter to be made to fit in 
that Houfe, without Confent of both Houfes, is 
for ever totally prevented. 

idly, ' It gives fuch an extraordinary new Power 
to the Houfe of Commons, as they never formerly 
enjoyed or pretended to, to wit, That no Peer cre- 
ated by the King himfelf, or by the King or Lords 
in Parliament, (who ufually created Peers in Par- 
liament without the Commons Privity or Confent 
in former Times) fhall be henceforth enabled to 
fit or vote as Peers of Parliament, but by Confent 
of the Houfe of Commons as well as of the King 
and Lords : By which Provifion the Commons are 
made not only, in fome Senfe, the Judges of Peers 

them- 



of E N G L A N D. 327 

themfelves, (which they could not try or judge An. 14 Car. I. 
before by the exprefs Letter of Magna Charta^ and , ' * 8 ' , 
the Common Law) (e] but even their very Creators p ccc mbr. 
too. 

3^/y, * It puts an extraordinary Prejudice and 
Blemifti on the King's Caufe, and an extream Dif- 
honour, DifTatisfa&ion, and Difparagement upon 
his own Party, than which a greater cannot be 
imagined : For what higher AfYrpnt and Difgrace 
could the King put upon thofe Nobl.es, Gentlemen, 
and others, who have fpent their Eftates, loft their 
Blood and Limbs, and adventured their very Lives, 
in his Caufe againft the Parliament, and received 
no other Reward but an empty Title of Honour, 
(perchance a Knightfhip, a L^rdfhip, or the bare 
Title of a Marquis, Earl, or Vifcount, which they 
have enjoyed but a Year or two, with little Be T 
nefit and lefs Content) to be thus (by A& of Pai- 
liament, with the King's own Royal Aflent, who 
conferred thofe Tides on them for their gallant 
Services in his Behalf) fuddenly degraded and di- 
verted of them all, as if they had never been ? A 
perpetual Brand to them and their Pofterity, who 
muft be enforced to give Place to fuch of whom, 
they had Precedency and Place by virtue of thefe 
Dignities : Which high Affront and Scorn, I am 
verily perfuaded, will pierce and break many of 
their own, at lead their Ladies, Hearts, and for 
ever difoblige them in the higheft Degree. 

4/&/X, ' It will make all the antient and new 
Nobility and Peers of England lefs dependent on 
the King, and lefs complying to ferve his Ends 
upon all Occafions ; being never able to gratify or 
reward them, though ever fo ambitious, with any 
new Honours or Peerftiips, without Confent of both 
Houfes of Parliament ; whom they dare not dif- 
pleafe or difoblige, for fear of croffing them in their 
defired Dignities and Titles, as well as in their 
great Offices, which are both now in their Dif- 
pofal, not in the King's alone. 

X 4 In 

(/) See Caikfi Stand Injlltutn, cap. 19. 



328 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

j. Z4 car. I. c } n b r j e f . The if jng, in this Conceflion, hath 

/ manifefted the greatett Humiliation and Self-denial 

December, tna t any King, fince there was a Kingdom in the 
World, hath done. It is and hath been the antient 
and undoubted Prerogative of all Kings in the 
World, but efpecially of the Kings of England^ to 
confer Honours and Dignities of all Sorts, efpe- 
cially Knighthood, on whom they {hall think meet, 
and more principally on thofe who have merited 
it by their Gallantry in the Field, as Mr. Selden 
proves at large in his Titles of Honour, and others 
who have written on that Subject. Now for the 
King', out of a Defire only of a happy Peace and 
Settlement, not only to part with much of the 
Royal Prerogative, which all other Kings in the 
World enjoy, for. the future ; but to repeal the 
Honours nnd Titles conferred by him on his Ad- 
herents, for Reward of their Services in Times 
paft, during al] thefe Wars, is fuch a Miracle and 
high Degree of Self-denial, as no Age hath pro- 
duced the like ; and that which moft of this Houfe, 
had the King prevailed, would have rather loft 
th-jir Lives, (had they conferred any fuch Titles on 
their Generals and Commanders) than have con- 
defcencled to, had the King required it ; and there- 
fore I cannot a^ree with thofe over-cenforious 
Gentlemen, who fo oft inculcate this, That they 
can fee no Hun.iliatk n at all or Change of Heart 
in the King, when I find fo great a Change and 
deep a Humiliation in him in this, and all other 
aForernentloriec! free ConcelTions, without any or 
Ihth Hefitation ; and I heartily with their own 
Hearts were as much humbled as his, and then I 
doubt not but they would thankfully embrace, and 
reft fully fatisiied with, his Conceflions for their 
own and the Kingdom's Benefit. 

' The ne^t Proportion, tending to the Peace 
and Settlement of the Kingdom, is this : 

' That the King do give his Royal Aflent to 

fuch Adi: or Acls for the raifmg of Monies for the 

Payment and Satisfying of the public Debts and 

4 Damages 



^ENGLAND. 329 

Damages of the Kingdom, and other public Ufes An. *4 Car. L 
as fhall hereafter be agreed qn by both Houfes of 1648. 
Parliament ; and if the King do not give his Aflent December, 
thereto, then it being done by both Houfes, the 
fame (hall be as vaiid, to all Intents and Purpofes, The Proportion 
as if the Royal Aflent had been given thereunto. J^ fofXyM 
To t; is Propofition the King hath condefcended, O f public Debt, 
fo as thofe Acls be pafled within two Years after Arrears, &c. 
the Treaty ended ; which the Houfes have voted tofe^^ 
be fatisfaclory. 

' This Propofition fecures all Monies lent upon 
the Public Faith ; all Arrears clue to Officers and 
Soldiers ; yea, all Monies advanced by any who 
have purchafed Bifhops Lands, for their Lofies by 
Reverlions after ninety-nine Years, or any prefent 
Rents, to be referved to the Crown for the Ufe of 
the Church, (with which thofe Members who have 
purchafed fuch Lands, or advanced Monies upon 
them, declare themfclves moft unfatisfied) and all 
thofe who have fuftained public Lofles ; Yea, if 
the King denies his Royal Alient thereto, it ena- 
bles both Houfes to make a valid Act of Parlia- 
ment without the King in this Cafe, and in the Cafe 
of the Militia likewife ; which was never challenged 
by, nor granted to, both Houfes in any King's Rt i^n 
before ; and takes away the King's Negative Voice 
as to thefe Particulars, which thofe, who conclude 
the King's Anfwers unfatisfaclory, have fo much 
contended for ; yet now ftand in their own Light, 
in not accepting of thefe Conceflions as fatisfr.&ory, 
which ftrike at the Negative Voice. 

4 The next Conceffion of the King's for the The Court of 
Settlement of the State, is the taking away of the Wards, Tenures 
Court of Wards, and of all Wardlhips and Tenures ^Srii with 
in CapitC) or by Knights Service, which draw on the Advantages 
Wardfliips, Premier Sciiins, Liveries, and fuch theriof> 
like Incumbrances, to the intolerable Vafialage 
arjd Prejudice of the Nobility and Gentry of Eng- 
land, and great landed Perfons ; and that only 
upon giving the King and his Succellbrs 100,000 /. 
yearly for Gompenfation, being one principal Part 
of his Royal Revenue. 

1 This 



3 3 *?be Parliamentary HISTORY 

A "' 7 ar< I * s Conceffion is of fo vaft Confequencc to 
t ^ r ijt the Kingdom, to enfranchife the Subjects from the 

December. Norman Yoke of Bondage, (as fome ftile Ward- 
fhips and Tenures in Capite, though others deem 
them more antient than William the Conqueror) 
that our Anceftors never enjoyed the like : It ex- 
empts Men's Heirs under Age, and their Eftates, 
from being made a Prey to hungry Courtiers, or 
Committees, over-reaching them and their Eftates : 
It exempts them from being married to any againft 
their free Confents, without any fmgle or double 
Forfeiture of the Values of their Marriages, to 
which they were formerly liable ; from Marriages 
to Perfons of fmall, or none, or broken Fortunes, 
and different Difpofitions, which have ruined many 
Families ; from many chargeable Suits, Expences, 
and exceffive Fees and Gratuities to Efcheators, 
Feodaries, and all Sorts of griping Officers in the 
Court of Wards ; and from vaft Expences and 
extraordinary Vexation in rinding and traverfing 
Offices, fuing out Liveries, &c. and many Suits 
and Queftions arifing thereupon, which have un- 
done too many : And it deprives the King of 
fuch an over-awing Prerogative over the Perfons 
and Eftates of the Nobility and Gentry, which 
ufually fell into his Cuftody after every Tenant's 
Deceafe, as will very much weaken his Intereft 
in, and their over-much Dependance on him ; and 
make them lefs fubjecl: to engage for or with him 
againft ths Parliament's or Kingdom's common 
Intereft. 

SLnSJoT 1 * The next Proportion relating to the Kingdom's 
linquents, how Safety and Settlement, not fo immediately and di- 
f<ir |""f e i*. * ven rec~tly as any of the former, is that which concerns 
Delinquents ; in which alone, as to the State, the 
King's Anfvvers are pretended unfatisfa&ory ; not 
in all, but only in fome Particulars, of no extra- 
ordinary Concernment, in my Apprehenfion, tho* 
fo much infifted on by many, as to vote all the 
Treaty unfatisfa&ory. In opening the State of the 
King's Anfwers to this Proportion, I (hall do thefe 
three Things : 



^ENGLAND. 331 

< I fhall (hew how far the King and you 
are both agreed. 

Secondly, In what Particulars you really or ^~ 

r i IIT UcCeifiDcr* 

feemmgly differ. 

Thirty, I fhall examine whether thefe Diffe- 
eences herein be of any fuch Moment, as to induce 
the Houfe to vote the Anfwers to this and the other 
Proportions upon the whole Treaty unfatisfa&ory ; 
and fo reject and lofe whatever the King hath 
granted in the reft, becaufe he hath not fatisfied 
cur Demands in this one, and two others concern- 
ing the Church. 

* For the Firft* Both Houfes, by their Votes, 
have thought this Propofition touching Delinquents 
fo needlefs to be infifted on, in every Puntiiio, for 
the Public Settlement, (which will certainly more 
obftrudl than promote it, Mercy and Moderation 
beina; the neareft Way to Peace and Union) that 
you have reduced, fince the Treaty, the Perfons 
excepced in the firlt Qualification both from Life 
and Compofition, from thirty-feven to feven only ; 
fix of thofe are beyond the Seas quite out of your 
Power (f), the feven th, aged, fcarce worth your 
Execution (g). The King confents that they fliould 
be banifhed during the Pleafure of both Houfes, 
whjch is a civil Death ; Banifhment being, next to 
Death, the fevered Punifhment, and, to fome Men, 
m.ore grievous than prefent Execution : But if that 
will not fatisfy, then he leaves them wholly to your 
Juftice, to proceed againft them, if you pleafe, ac- 
cording to Law ; and promifeth not to interpofe 
nor pardon any of them if legally condemned ; only 
he adds, ex abundanti, That he cannot, in Jttflice 
or Honour, ajjent to any Aft to take away their Lives 
by a meer Legijlative Power, ex pojl Fafto, if they 
have done nothing that was formerly capital by the 
known Laws of the Land, by which he leaves 
them to be tried. This Anfwer many Gentlemen, 
who have fpoken, have concluded very unfatisfac- 

tory, 

(f) The Marquis of Nnocaftle, Lord Diglv, Sir Marmadukc Lang- 
Jale, Sir Richard Greenville, Sir Frtncit Doddington, and Sir Job* 
Byon. 

(Z) David jftn kins, Efy one of the Wtltb Judges. 




''The Parliamentary HISTORY 

tory, and made many large Defcants on itj becaufc 
they did not rightly weigh nor underftand it; when 
' r T~ as, in Truth, it anfwers the very Propofition in 
Tcrminis, as I {hall clearly manifeft to all who un- 
derftand what Law is. 

i/?, ' It is apparent, that one of the firft Quar- 
rels and Caufe of taking up Arms, on our Parts, 
was to bring Delinquents to condign Punifhment, 
according to the Laws and Statutes of the Realm (/?), 
as you have declared to the Kingdom in many 



printed Declarations ; and in your Petitions to the 
King, you always defired him to leave Delinquents 
to the Courfe of Juftice, not to cut them oft" by a 



meer legiflative Power, when as you could not do 
it by any known Law. 

idly, < You have profeffed to all the World, and 
to the King and Delinquents themfelves, that you 
have taken up Arms to defend and preferve the 
antient fundamental Laws and Liberties of the 
Kingdom, and to oppofe the Introduction of any 
arbitrary and tyrannical Power ; yea, yourfelves 
and the Army likewife have declared again'ft all 
extraordinary Proceedings and Trials in the Lords 
Houfe to fine or imprifon, without any Indictment, 
of legal Trial by Jury or Verdict, according to 
Magna Chnrta and the Common Law : Therefore 
your bringing Delinquents to Punifhment for Life 
and Eftates, which is the firft Branch of this Pro- 
pofition, muft be intended only of a juft and legal 
Trial, as yourfelves have always profefled, not by 
a new Law in the Pojlea : And if fo, then the 
King, in cafe you will not reft fatisfied with the 
feven excepted Perfons Banifhment, is content to 
leave them to your Juftice, even for Life and 
Eftate, according to the known Laws of the 
Realm ; and will no ways interrupt your Proceed- 
ings therein, nor pardon them : Therefore in this 
he fully confents to the Propofition. 

* But it hath been objected, i/?, That the King 
denies to yield them up to Juftice, or to have any 
Hand in their Profecution ; and therefore his An- 

fwer 
(i) See Vol. XI. p; 309, 4*7, 431; alfo Vol. XII. p. 147. 



of ENGLAND, 333 

fwcr is unfatisfa&ory : 2^/y, That this Expreflion, An. 24. c.ir, I. 

That be can neither in Jujiice nor Honour confint to l6 ^- 8 - 

any Atf for to take away their Lives or EJiates, is as D v . 

hi^h a Juftification of them, and his own Caufe, 

as poHible, and contradictory to the firft Propo- 

Gtion ; and declares the King's Heart to be ftill the 

feme and unchanged. 

^ ' To which I anfwer, I/?, Both thefe are fuch 

grofs Miftakes and Inconfequences, that I wondet 

how any Intelligent Man can infift upon them : 

For the King, in pofitive Terms, if you will not 

accept of their Banifhment, yields them up to a 

legal Trial, in which himfelf muft be the Prcfe- 

cutor ; the Indictment being in his Name, the Pro- 

fecution at his Suit by his Counfel at Law, and the 

Witoefles produced on his Behalf, as all Men 

know, who underftand what belongs to a legal 

Trial. Therefore, to infer from the King's Anfwer, 

that he difclaims all Profecution of them, is a direct 

Contradiction and Falfhood. 

2dfy., ' The King's very Condefcenfion to their 
Banilbment, and Forfeiture of their Eftates, for ad- 
hering to his Caufe, and putting them upon their 
legal Trial, is an exprefs Difavowal of his awn 
Caufe as juft, and an Acknowledgement of its 
Badnefs and Illegality ; and if the Parliament 
Ihould yield up thofe, who have acied for and ad- 
hered to them, to Banifhment, Confifcation >of 
Eftatc, and a legal Trial for their Lives, I am cer- 
tain the Objeclors themfelves would proteft tbart 
therein they had betrayed their righteous Caufe, and 
xlderted their beft afFccted Friends. 

3^//j', ' Expreffiim fticit cejfiirc taciturn ; the King 
having, in direct Terms, jufritied your Caufe and 
War as juft, in the firft Propofition ; acknowledged 
thofc Perfons exempted in this, and treated for, un- 
der the very Name and Notion of Delinquents, to 
be fuch, in this very Proportion ; and confented to , 
their Banifhment and Lois of Eftatty cannot, with- 
out apparent Abfurdity, be averred to juftify them 
and their Caufe in this his Anfwer, which yields 
Jhem up to the ftricleft legal Juftice, as Delinquents. 




*?he Parliamentary HISTORY 

4'tbly, c Thofe Words of the King, fo much ex^ 

cepted againft, That he can neither in Honour nor 

December. *J u ft lce confent to any Al to take a^vay their Lives} 
who have aEled any Thing by his Command^ ufed and 
intended by him only in relation to his regal Con- 
fent to a new Law to condemn them ex pojl FaSloi 
where there was no Law before, are fo far from 
any Exception, that, for my Part, I mould have 
held him neither juft nor honourable had he omit- 
ed this Exprefiion. For can it be juft and honour- 
able for a King to engage Men in his Service by 
fpecial Commifiion or Command, when there is 
no known Law to make their Obedience criminal ; 
and yet afterwards to give his Royal Afient to a 
fubfequent Law to take away their Lives^ and for- 
feit their Eftates, for obeying his own Royal Com- 
mands ? Suppofe we were now in the King's Con- 
dition, and he in ours, and he mould prefs you to 
confent to a new Law to make all thofe who have 
a&ed for you, and by your Commiffions, in this 
War, Traitors, and to lofe their Lives and Eftates 
for it, when there was no former Law to punifti 
them ; would you not all give the felf fame An- 
fwer as he doth, that you could neither in Honour 
nor Juftice, nor yet in Point of Confcience, ccn- 
fent to fuch a Law ? And would not yourfelves 
and all others proteft, you had neither Juftice nor 
Honefty in you, mould you be fo bafe and perfi- 
dious as to condefcend unto it, to betray all thofe 
you had engaged, and to give them fuch a Requital 
for their Services ? Would any Perfons ever after 
honour, ferve, or tiuft you, (hould you do it ? Or 
could you, or any other, honour, truft, or ferve 
the King in any dubious Employment after this, if 
he fhould thus unworthily, ex pcji FaElo^ betray 
his own Party now ? This Anfwer therefore of 
.his, clearly difcovers to us, that there is yet fo 
much Juftice and Honour in him, as for no Fear 
or Danger to ccnfent to fuch an unjuft and un- 
worthy Al, as by a new Law to cut oft" the Heads 
of thofe himfclf engaged in his Service, when there 



^/ENGLAND, 335 

V?as no Law extant then to do it ; and makes it more An. 24 Car. I. 
fatisfadlory unto me, than otherwife, and {hews he^ 
doth not diflcmble, but is real in his Anfwers ; and 
I fhall fooner truft and believe him now, than if he 
had contented to fuch an unworthy A61. 

,5//;/y, * This Anfwer is both juft and honour- 
able ; becaufe if the King ftiould aflent to a new 
A6t to forfeit their Lives and Eftates, he would 
condemn them raihly and unjuftly without hearing 
their Defence or Evidence ; and for the King to 
condemn any for Traitors by a Bill, without hear- 
ing the Canfe or Evidence againft them, or to make 
Men Traitors by a Law fubfequent to their Of- 
fences, is neither juft nor honourable, in every juil 
Man's Judgment ; and of very dangerous Prece- 
dent, as Sir Edward Coke (i) informs us, the Lord 
Cromwell, the Inventer of fuch Acts of Attainder, 
being the firft that loft his Head by this new In- 
vention. 

' * All which confidered, there is no rational Man 
but muft conclude the King's Anfwer unto this 
Ilranch touching Delinquents, to be fully fatis- 
fadtory even to your own Demands, as well in 
Words as Subftance, notwithstanding the Objec- 
tions againft it. 

' * But admit the Anfwer as bad as any have 
made it, (hall we therefore conclude it fo unfatis- 
fadlory as to break oft" the Treaty upon it, and 
involve the Kingdom in another War, of which 
no Man can know the End or I due ? God foibjd 
we fhould ever be fo unadvifed. The Perfons 
whole Lives you defire for a Sacrifice to Public 
Juftice, arc but feven in Number ; fix of them out 
of your Power in foreign Parts, where a new War 
will not reach them ; the feventh an aged Man, 
who may chance to die before Judgment or Exe- 
cution pafs againft him ; you have all their whole 
jEftates at your Difpofal already, and their Pcrfons 
too by way of Bani(hmcnt, during both HouK ; 
Plcsfure ; and will you adventure another liven 
Years War, and the Lofs perchance of 70,000 

Men's 

(/'} Faurtb Injlitute, cap. i. p. 37, 38. 



'The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I, Men's Lives, and as many Millions of Treafure 

^ ( to the Ruin of the Kingdom, for the bare Lives of 

Dwember, (even Delinquents only ; or, in Truth, of one 
alone, who is fully in your Power, which you may 
take away by a legal Trial without a War ? Will 
not all the Kingdom, nay all the three Kingdoms 
and the whole World, cry out upon you for fuch a 
frantic unadvifed A& as this ? Yea, and for fuch 
an unjuft and wicked Refolution, to hazard the 
Lives, and (bed the Blood, of many thoufand in- 
nocent and gallant Men to take away the Head of 
one, or only of feven, vile Delinquents ; the fpa- 
ring of whofe Lives will more conduce to Settle- 
ment, and real Unity, than their Deaths by the 
Ax of Juftide ? (k) For fhame then let us not vote 
the King's Anfwer to this Branch of Delinquents 
fo unfatisfatory, as to break off and' Id'te all upon 1 
it, fince I have proved it fully fatisfe&ory in all 
Things to your own laft Demands. 

1 As to the Delinquents fpec/fied in the feconJ 
and third Qualification, the KSnjg and you are fully 
agreed. Beildes, the King confents to the Exclu- 
fion of the Delinquents, fpecified in the firft Qua-* 
h'fication, from fitting in Parliament, being of hte 
Councils, coining within the Verge of his Court, 
bearing any Office, or having any Employment in 
the State, during the Pleafure of both Houfes, 
Thus far you are both agreed 5 only he defiresthis 
Mitigation of their Penalty, in cafe they (hall of- 
fend herein, that they may not be guilty of High 
Treafon, and uncapable of any Pardon, and forfeit 
all their Eftates ; nor that thofe who (hall return 
from Banimment without Leave, may incur fo high 
a Penalty, but a more moderate, fuitable to the 
Law they (hall offend* And, to break only upon 
this Excefs and Extremity of Punimment, (too 
high even in many wife Mens Opinions for fuch 
Offences, and of dangerous Precedent to Pofterity, 
it being the Wifdom of our Anceftors, to make as 
few (I) new Treafons as poffible, as being only for 

the 

(*) z Cb-on, xxviii. 10, to 16. 
(/; Raftalls Abridgement, under the Tide 7Vc<*/i0. 



^ENGLAND.' 337 

the King's Advantage and People's Prejudice) when An. 24 Car. r. 
a lefler Penalty may as well, and fooner too, pre- l6 4&- 
Vent the Mifchief, is neither fafe nor prudent. ^ _ - r 

As for the Compofitions of fuch Perfonsj the >er '' 

King only defires their being moderated, if you think 
fit, even to fuch Proportions as the Army itfelf, in 
their Propofals made in Auguft, 1647, thought rea- 
lonable (tfz) j and if you pleafe not to grant it, then 
he leaves them to compound at fuch Rates as you 
and they fhall agree ; and thofe are only fuch as 
you have already fixed on in former Compofitions, 
from which you will not vary ; and in cafe they 
will not compound at your Rates, you have then 
the Benefit of all their fequeftered Elrates till their 
Compositions be madCj which is your Benefit and 
their Lofs. Therefore, in this, though forrie have 
been pleafcd, without any Colour of Reafon, to af- 
fert the contrary^ you are both fully accorded. 

' To the Delinquents in the fifth Qualification ; 
the King confcnts to all your Defires, with this 
Exception only, that fuch delinquent Minifters, 
who are not fcandalous in their Lives or Doc- 
trine, and are already fequeftered, may enjoy the 
third Part of the Profits of their Livings, for the 
Support of them and their Families, and be ca- 
pable of future Preferments, if they be thought fit 
to enjoy them. This fome have concluded very 
unfatisfa&ory, becaufe it craves fome little Favour 
for malignant Minifters : But I befeech you con- 
fider how inconfiderable the Difference is, and 
how juft and charitable the King's Requeft is in 
their Behalf. Yourfelves, both by Ordinance and 
common Practice, grant the full fifth Part of the 
Profits of fequeftered Livings to the Wives and 
Children of fequeftered Minifters, as well in cafe 
of Scandal and Infufficicncy, as Malignity : The 
King deiircs only that fuch who huve been fe- 
queftered meerly for Malignancy, and -are not fcan- 
dalous, may receive a third Part ir.ftccul of u fif"th ; 
and, for their future Encouragement, having fpcnt 

VOL. XVIII. Y their 

(m) Thefe ate |Un, at Urge, JD our Sixtcalh Volume, p. ! 



338 72v Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. Z4- Car. I. their Time in fitting themfelves for the Miniftiy, 
l6 4 s> j and being fit for no other Calling, and having loft 
December, their former Livings, he requefts only that, in this 
Scarcity of able Minifters, they may be capable 
meerly of future Preferments, for which they fhall 
be adjudged meet, in fuch a Way as you (hall ap- 
point, not he or they : A juft, a charitable Re- 
queft, and that which yourfelves have done, there 
being many able godly Minifters of imminent Parts 
and exemplary Lives, who have not been fo clearly 
convinced in Point of Conference, as to concur with 
you in the late Wars, for which they have been 
fequeftered, and have fince been better fatSsfied ; 
and God forbid that fuch fhould be made utterly un- 
capable of the Miniftry, and they and their Families 
fhrve for Want of Bread. I befeech you there- 
fore, of all other Things, let us not break with 
the King upon this Act of Charity, of Piety, left 
all the World condemn us for Uncharitablenefs, 
and judge the King to be more pious and chari- 
table than we. And no doubt it will be the ereateft 
Charity to ourfelves, to our Church, our Religion, 
our Kingdom, at this Time, rather to clofe with 
the King in this Particular, than hazard all for a 
few third Parts, and to be as charitable as his 
Majefly. The more Charity we (hew, the greater 
Unity, Peace, Amity, aiid better Settlement we 
may expect. 

The King's * But the greateft Diflatisfa&ion of all, referred 

Son 8 toSe m " to this Head f Delinquents, is in the King's An- 
MarquisofOr- fwers concerning his prefent recalling of the Mar- 
mond to treat q U j s o f Qrmond's Commiflion to treat with, and 
' unite, the Aijfc Rebels. 

' To which I anfwer, iy?, That this was no 
Part of the Propofitions firft fent, but a collateral 
Emergent, difcovered fince the Treaty, upon Col. 
Jones's Letter () ; and fo the Unfatisfaclorinefs of 
the King's Anfwer, as to this alone, can be no juft 
Caufe or Ground to vote the other Anfwers unfa- 
tisfaclory, or to break off the Treaty. 

t') In this Volume, p. 114. 



cf ENGLAND. 339 

2<//y, ' The King's granting of this Commif- An. 24 car. I. 
(ion to Ormond, at the Time he did it, is no fuch l648 ' 
heinous Thing as many have made it, all Circum- December, 
fiances confidered. The King, when the Army 
would not clofe with him upon their own Terms 
the laft Year,, (who treated with him without your 
Privity, and againft your Orders, even then when 
they unjuftly impeached the Eleven Members for 
holding fetret Intelligence with him and his Party, 
of which themfelves were only culpable) was {hut 
up clofe Prifoner in Canjbrooke Caftle, in the Ifle of 
Jfright, by their Procurement (0} ; and by the Votes 
of both Houfes (/>), proceeding originally from the 
Officers and the Army's Projection, promoted by 
their Declaration and Engagement to join with the 
Houfes in fettling the Kingdom without and againft 
the King (7), and forcibly parted the Lords Houfe 
by the Army's garrifoning Whitehall^ and billeting a 
Regiment of Horfe in the Mews, to terrify them 
to a Concurrence with the Commons (rj, quite laid 
afide like a dead Man out of Mind, and no more 
Addreffes to be made to him by the Houfes, or 
from him to them ; and no Accefs of any to him 
under Pain of High Treafon, without both Houfes 
Licenfe: The King, in thefe Extremities, the 
better to procure his own Enlargement and the 
Kingdom's Settlement by a Treaty, grants a Com- 
miflion to the Marquis of Onnond to unite the Irijh 
Forces, then divided, for the forefai.l Ends. Ex- 
tremities certainly put honeft and vviie Men too, as 
the Army's Friends grant, upon hard Shifts for 
Self-prefervation ; and fuch Extremity put the King 
upon this of Ormond (5). 

* The King is Flefh and Blood as well as we, 
and Nature teacheth him to ufe the beft Means hs 
may for his own Prefervation and Deliverance in 
fuch a Strait : The Army, the laft Summer, rcfufed 
to difband or fufter any of their Forces to go 
Ireland, to preferve and fecure that Kingdom, on*/ 
from this Ground of Self-prefervation, upon which 
Y 2 they 

(,) Vol. -XVI. p. 33?. f. 490. (g} If.-:. 1 . 

(r} Ibid 493. (') In this VJijmf, p. ia6 tj 280, (forftm. 



340 %fa Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. I. they would now enforce you, by their Remon- 
1048 ' i ft ra r>ce and marching up to your Doors with their 
December. Forces, to break off the Treaty j or vote it wholly 
unfatisfaftory ; whence moft Gentlemen that differ 
in Opinion from me have made this their fole or 
chief Argument that the King's Anfwers are unfa- 
tisfa&ory, becaufe the Army would elfe not be fa- 
tisfied. If then your own Army may thus difobey 
your Votes, and force your Confents, only upon 
a Pretence of Self-prefervation and Defence, when 
they are in no vifible Danger, the King, by as good 
or better Reafon, in this Extremity of Danger, 
might juftly make Ufe of OrmoncTs Endeavours for 
his better Safety and Enlargement. And if fome 
Members have affirmed in this Houfe, as hath 
been alledged in this Debate, That they would join 
with Turh or the worft of Nations, and call them 
in to their Afliftance, rather than the King fhould 
come in by Conqueft; then the King, by like 
Reafon, might join with Ormond and the Irijh^ 
rather than be thus laid afide and deftroyed. And 
what we ourfelves would do in his or the like Con- 
dition, we cannot juftly blame in him. 

3/A^, c The King did never abfolutely deny the 
recalling of Ormond's Commifiion, but only fu* 
fpended it till the Treaty ended ; and if you then 
clofe with him, you have his Engagement pre- 
fently to revoke it; if then you agree with him 
upon this Treaty, your Demand in this is granted, 
and the Danger prevented ; but if you will not 
agree at all, it is very hard Meafure to prefs the 
King to a prefent Difadvantage, who is like to re- 
ceive no Advantage by you ; nothing being obli- 
gatory on either Side till all be concluded. 

* In fine : The King hath fo far condefcended to 
fatisfy you in his final Anfvver, as to write a Letter 
toOnnond, to fufpend the Execution of his Com- 
miflion for the prefent, and engaged to revoke it fo 
foon as you and he agree in future ; and more than 
this, as the Cafe ftands, we cannot well in Juftice 
require, and welhould hardly grant fo much were 
it our own Cafe as it is the King's: And 
4 



cf ENGLAND. 34r 

all our Dangers may be prevented by our Agree- -An. 24 Car. I. 
ment with the King, and this Demand then fully t l6 * 8 - 
granted, there is no Reafon to vote this unfatisfac- December 
tory, uhen we may have ail we defire, if we pleafe 
ourfelves. However, J fee no fuch Difference be- 
tween the King and us, in this of Qrnuttdiad that 
of Delinqents, as to vote the final Anfwers to 
thern and all the rert unfatisfaclory j and fo to lole 
England^ diurefied Ireland, and all the former 
Concefiions, for an inconftderable Diffatisfaclion 
in thefe two Particulars. 

The laft Propofition relating to the Security of 
the St.ue, is, 

* That the City of London Jhall enjoy all their The Propofiticn 
Rights, Liberties, Franc'oifes and Ufages, in rai- concerning Lon- 
fmg and employing the Forces thereof, far itt 

fence, in as full and ample Manner as they ufed and k 
enjoyed it heretofore : That the Militia of the City 
and Liberties the --f of Jhall be in the Ordering and 
Government of .be Lord Mayor, dldermen, and 
Common Council, or fuch as they Jhall Appoint, to it 
employed and directed as both Houfes Jhall direct ; 
Jo as no Citizen, or Forces of the City, Jhall be com- 
pelled to go out of the City or Liberties for Military 
Service, without their own free Confint : That an 
A<3 Jhall be paffed for the granting and confirming 
of the City's Charters, Cujioms, and Franchifes, no:- 
withjlanding. any J^snufer, Mifufer, or Abujcr ; and 
for Confirmation of all Bv^-Laius and Ordinance? 
made or to be made by the Lord Mayor, Aidermcr., 
and Common Council, concern;;;? the calling, con- 
vening, and regulating their Common Council : That 
the Tower of London may be in the Government of 
the City, and the Chief Governor thereof nominated 
and removcable by the Common Council; and all Props - 
Jitions, which JhaH be further made (*. <: !>y 

both Houfcs Conjtnt, for iht future H'eifare and 
Government of the City, confirmed by Act sf Par- 
liament. 

* To all which the King hath full/ confcnted, 
fo as his Anfwer thereto cannot be votrd ur.Citif 
faclory by any, but fuch who envy tlv; City' 

Y 3 and 



342 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. I. an( J Security, that themfelves may the better feize 
v '^' j and trample on it, to its Enflaving and Ruin. 
December. ' This Conceffion is, firft, a great Honour to, 
and Justification of, your Caufe (/) ; the City hav- 
ing beeji more cordial to, active for, and bountiful 
towards, you upon all Occafions and Exigencies 
than all other Parts of the Kingdom , the Har- 
bourers, the Relievers of all who have fled from 
the Enemies Tyranny thither for Safety or Relief; 
yea, the only Treafury to advance Monies upon 
all Exigencies, and thole to whom, under God, 
you principally owe your Victories' and Preferva- 
tion. Now, for the King to honour the City with 
fuch Conceffions as thefe, which hath been moft 
hurtful to, and deepeft engaged againft, him in 
this War, is almoft as high and full, if not a 
/ . greater, Justification of, and Countenance to, 

your Caufe, as his Confent to the firft Propofi- 
tion. 

idly, ( A great Satisfaction to the City for alj 
their Services and Expences, and a firm Security 
againft all future Fears and Sufferings for engaging 
fo deeply in your Caufe. 

3^/y, ' An extraordinary Engagement to the 
City, faithfully to adhere to you and all fucceeding 
Parliaments upon the 'like Caufe and Occafion, 
and to other Corporations to do the like. 

^thly, * A great Security and Advantage to the 
whole Kingdom, whole Weal and Safety princi- 
pally confift in London's Welfare, its principal Ma- 
gazine, Mart, Bulwark, Refuge, and Military Se- 
curity both by Sea and Land j wherewith the 
whole Kingdom ftands or falls. Had the King 
once gained, London in thefe Wars, the Parliament 
and all England had been quickty loft, without 
Hopes of Recovery : which will be in a fee u re or 
recoverable Condition at all Times, if it be fafe 
and true to the Public Intereft, from which fome 
' huve ftudied of late to difengage it j to ruin it and 
the Parliament too, which were always free from 

* im- 

(/) Vol. XII. p. 247- Vol. XIII. p. 193. AJfo Fi.JIwJi-1 Col- 
ieFiuxi in 2-varto, \. 45 j ar.d Jn Folio f p. ji ar.d 49$ 



of ENGLAND. 343 

imminent Danger whil/r. cordially united, and near An. *. car. /. 
to both their Ruins being now disjointed. j6 4&. 

' Mr. Speaker, I have thus, as briefly as I could, V * 
with Difcharge of my Confcience and Duty, run 
thro' all the Proportions which concern the Security 
and Settlement of our State againft the Kind's arm- 
ed Violence, or exorbitant Civil Sword or Preroga- 
tive, and other Particulars relating to its Peace ancP 
Safety, with the King's refpective Anfwers there- 
unto ; and, for mine own Opinion, I humbly con- 
ceive them fo fully fatisfa&ory, and abundantly fuf- 
ficient for our Weal and Safety againft all future* 
Dangers and Encroachments on our Liberties, that 
if we conjoin them with thofe other A&s the King* 
hath already confented to this Parliament, we can 
neither defire nor expedl any Additions to make us 
more compleatly happy and fecure than any People 
or Kingdom under Heaven. 

The King hath already, by Acts of Parlia- 
ment, condemned and fuppreired Ship-Money ; 
his own Monopoly of making Gunpowder and Salt- 
petre; Fines for Knighthood; Impositions uponMer- 
chants Goods, Tonnage and Poundage, without 
Grant by Parliament ; Coat and Conduct-Money ; 
Foreft Bounds and Laws, the grand Grievances un- 
der which we groaned heretofore ; fa as we need ne- 
ver fear their Revival, nor any others of that Na- 
ture; efpecially fmce we have the Nomination of all 
Great Officers and Judges, the chief Promoters of 
them. Befides, by Act of Parliament, he hath for 
ever fupprcfled the Bifhops fitting and voting in Par- 
liament, a great Difadvantage to him, they com- 
monly voting what he pleafed, and being wholly at 
his Devotion ; together with the three grand op- 
preffive Courts and Shops of Tyranny, Oppreflion, 
and Injuftice in the Kingdom, (the great Terrors of 
Men's Spirits, the Invaders of their Rights, Mem- 
bers, Liberties; the chief Enlargers and Maintainers 
of an unlimited Prerogative, and Authors of all our 
late illegal Projeds and Preflures) the Star-Cham- 
ber, the High Commiflion and Council Table ; 
the King's chief Engines to fcrew up his Prero- 
gative to the highcft, and lay his Subjeds lowcft ; 
Y 4 to 



244 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. * 4- Car. J.t3 which a Fourth is fmce added in this Treaty, 
l6 48- ^ the Court of Wards: All which being totally abo-* 
v "~"~^ b<r lifted, the King hath now no Court nor Inftrument 
left, that I can think of, whereby to injure or 
opprefs his People as in fo'mer Times. The Op- 
preffions likewife and Extortions of the Stannary 
Courts, and of the Clerks of the Market, are rec- 
tified by Ats this Sefiion ; yea this Parliament, 
by Act, perpetuated, without any Power in the 
King to adjourn and diffolve it, till all concur to 
diflblvc it by an Act of Parliament ; and, when 
this {hall be fo determined for our future Security, 
stnd Redrefs of all growing Mifchiefs which may 
endanger us, there is a Provifion by another Law 
for a Triennial Parliament ; with Power to fum- 
mon it, in cafe of the King's Refufal, without him 
or his Writ, and Authority for the Houfcs to fit 
for a convenient Time, (fufficient to redrefs all 
Grievances, punifh all public Offenders, and fettle 
ufeful Laws) without Difiblution or Adjournment, 
* To which I may add the Aft of Oblivion, 
Pacification, and Union, with our Brethren of 
Scotland : Upon granting of four of which Acts 
alone, the Houfe of Commons, in their Remon- 
ftrance of the State of the Kingdom (w), Dec. r, 
1641, did, with much Thankfulness^ acknowledge^ 
that his Majejly had pa/fed more good Bilh at that 
Time^ to the Advantage of the Subjcfis^ than have 
been paed in many Ages. And if he fhall now ac- 
cumulate all the fore- mentioned Propofitions, turn- 
ed into Ac"b, to thofe already enacted, with fome 
few Laws more for the regulating of fome Grie- 
vances and Conuptions in the Common Law -, the 
puniQiing and retraining of fome public Mifchiefs 
;tnd Crimes, and Punifnment of Extortions, (which 
will be readily aflented to, there being no Lofs nor 
Prejudice to the Crown in palling them) we may, 
through God's Blefling, in all human Probability, 
if our Sifts deprive us not of fo great a Felicity, be 
the freeft, happieft, fecurefr, moft flourifhing, and 
bell: ordered Kingdom and People in the World ; 
and enjoy fuch Privileges and Immunities as our" 

Anceftorj 
' (0 Vo?. X. p. 56, ttjd. 



of ENGLAND. 345 

Anceftors never fo much as once imagined, much An. 2^ Car. J. 

Jefs afpired after. And if we will not now reft fatif- v l6 * 8 ' 

fied, and thankfully contented, with all thefe large Dc ember. 
extraordinary Conceffions, and blefs God for this 
Tender of them to our Hands, the prefent, and all 
future Ages, will chronicle us for the moft unrea- 
fonable and ungrateful Creatures that ever fet with- 
in thefe Walls, or the World produced fmce the 
Creation. 

* Mr. Speaker, having now at large demonftra- the Satisftao- 
tcd, I hope to every rational and honeft Man's Con- rinefs of the 
viclion, the Satisfa&orinefs of the King's Anfwers Kin 8** Anfww 
to all our Proportions relating to the Safety and Set- J^JSi 
tlement of our State, I fhall, in the next Place, pro- the Church and 
ceed to thofe Propofitions and Conceflions which Religion. 
concern the Peace, Settlement, and Security of our 

Church and Religion, wherein there appears the 
greateft Difficulty ; the moft whereof I (hall di- 
fpatch with greater Brevity than the former. 

* There are there Things efpecially which may 
endanger and difturb the Peace and Settlement of 
our Church and Religion i 

Fir/1, c Popery, Popifh Corruptions and Inno- 
vations, introduced by Jefuits, Papifts, and fuper- 
ftitious Clergymen popifhly addicted. 

Secondly, ' Profanenefs. 

Thirdly ', * Prelacy : And one chief Thing to 
promote Religion and the Church's Happinefs, the 
Propagation of the. Gofpel, by fettling preaching 
Miniftcrs throughout the Kingdom, and eftablifli- 
ing the public Worfhip and Church-Government 
in fuch Sort as is moft agreeable to God's Word. 

* For all thefe there is fufficient Ground in the 
King's Anfwers to our Propofitions concerning 
them, to vote them fatisfaclory, as I humbly ap- 
prehend and hope to manifcft. 

* For the firft of thefe Dangers to our Church Propofitiom nd 
and Religion ; there is as good Security and Pro- Conccflioni - 
vifion granted us by the^King, as we d'id or could ^?0* Po- 
defire, even in our own Terms. 

i/?, He hath fully confented to pafs 'an Acl, 
for the more effetiual disabling of 'Jffuits, Paptjis y 
tjnd Popijh RecttfaMts, from dijiurbirtg the State, 

and 



346 . T7oe Parliamentary PI i s T o R Y 

An. 24 Car. I. and eluding the Laws ; and for the preferring of at 
^648. ^ new (jail) f or th e morefpecdy Difcovsry and Conviffioti 

December f ^ ecu f ants - 

'idly, ' To an Aft of Parliament, For the Edu- 
cation of the Children of Papifts t by Protejian.ts^ in the 
Prate/] ant Religion. 

$dly, < To an A6t, For the due levying of the Pe- 
nalties again/I Recufants, and difpofeng of them as both 
Houfes Jhali appoint. 

tfhly, To an A&, Whereby the Praftices of the 
Papijls againjl the State may be prevented, the Laws 
again/I them duly executed, and aftricler Courfe taken 
to prevent the faying, or hearing of Mafs in the Court % 
or any other Part of the Kingdom ; whereby it is made 
Treafon for any Prieft to fay Mafs in the Court 
or Queen's own Chapel ; and fo no Place left for 
the laying of Mafs throughout the Kingdom, no, 
not in the Queen's own Chamber. 

yhly, < To an Act, For abolijhing all Innovations^ 
Popijfj Superftitions, Cfrcnjonies, Altars, Rails, Cruci- 
jfixes. Images. Piflures^ Copes, CroJJes^ Surplices ', 
frejlmcnts, Bowings c.t the Name of Jefus, or towards 
the Aliar^ &c. out of the Churchy and to prevent the. 
Introduction of them for ''he future. 

6 By all which A6b, added to our former Laws 
^gainft Recufants, I dare affirm we have now far 
better Provifion and Security againft Papifts, Jefuits, 
Popifh Recufants, their Popifh Pictures, Innova- 
tions, Superftitions and Ceremonies, both for our 
Church's and Religion's Safety, and States too, 
than any Proteftant Church, State, or Kingdom 
whatsoever j fo as we need not fear any future 
Danger from Papifts and Popery, if we be careful 
to fee thofe Conceflions duly put into Execution, 
when turned into A6ts, and our former Laws. 

' Secondly, ( Againft the Growth and Danger of 
galnftPiofanc- _, r / ' , . & , . n . . r . . 

^, frofanenefs ; his Majefty hath condelcended to an 

Act of Parliament, as large as can be drawn, 
againft all Profanations whatfoever of the Lord's 
Day, with fevere Punijhments for the Profaners of 
it in any Kind ; and againft all fuch as Jhall write or 
preach againjl its Morality and due Observation : 
And likewife to an A6t, to be framed and agreed 

upon 



rf ENGLAND. 347 

upon by both Houfes of Parliament, for the reform- An. 24 Car. I t 

/ an.i relating both Univer/ities, and of the Col- ^ 

leges of Weftminfter, Winchefter, rtw^Eatorv, the December. 

Seminaries of Learning ?.nd Education of Youth, 

to ferve and rule in our Church and State. By 

which two Grants, if duly executed, all Impiety 

and Profanenefs which can endanger oar Church 

2nd Religion, will eafily be fwppreflfed for the pj 

lent, and prevented for the; future. 

Thirdly, c A gain ft the Danger and Revival of And the Revival 
Epiicopacy, and the Appenda^--* thereqnto belong- cf Piclac )'' 
ing ; the Kiivj; hath clearly condefcended to theft? 
particulars in T'er minis : 

I/, < To an Act, Far the AboKtim of all Arck- 
bijhips. Chancellors^ Gotitrruffaries, Deans and Sub* 
Deans ^ Deans and Chapters^ Archdeacons^ Canons^ 
Prebendaries , &c. and ail other Epifcopal^ Cathe- 
dral, or Collegiaie Officers both in England, \Vales, 
and Ireland ; and to the Difpofal of all their Lands 
and PoJJeJJions for fitch Ufet as the Hvufes Jhall think 
meet : So as there ]> no .Fear at all of their Refur- 
reclion to difturb our Church. All the Queftion 
and Difference now bet-.vixt the King and Houfes 
is only concerning the Office and Power of Bifliops, 
and their Lands and Po'i-ilions; in which two I 
find moft Members declare ihemfelves to be unfa- 
tisfied , efpccially thofe who hixve purchafi:d Bifliops 
Lands, who arc: very zcaioiu in that Point for their 
own Interests. 

' For the clearing of thcfe two Scruples, I {hall 
examine and iebate ihele two Particular^ : 
' Firji, c How far the King hath contented to the 
Houfes Proportions for the aboliftiing oi the Office 
and Jutifdiclion of Bifhops in the Church. 

Secondly^ ' How far he hath eondefcended to the 
Sale and Difpofal of their Lands and PoiVeffions ; 
and whether his Conceflions in both thefe be not 
Sufficiently fatisfadlory, in the Scnfe I have ftated 
the Q^ieftion in the Beginning of this Debate. ^. he QjHHon 

' To the firft of tht-fe ; it is clear that the King, ftated. as t the 
in his two laft Papers, hath abolifhed and extir- ^' n 
pated that Epifcopacy and Prelacy wliich we in- fi^c 
5 tended, 



348 *flx Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I-tended, and have fo earneftly contefted againft j and 
^^ __j contends now for no other but an Apoitolical Bi- 
December. &op> which is but the fame in all Things with an 
ordinary Minifter or Prefbyter ; which Bsfhop, be- 
ing Apoftolicai and of Divine Inftitution, we nei- 
ther may, nor can, nor ever intended to abclifh 
by our Covenant. 

4 To make this evident to all Men's Confciences : 
The King hath yielded to take away all the Power 
and Jurisdiction whatfoever exercifed by our Bi- 
fjhops, in point of Cenfure or Difcipline, in his 
former Anfwer ; and contends for nothing now but 
their Power of Ordination only ; and that not folely 
veiled in the Bifhop, but in him and other Prefby- 
ters jointly ; yet fo, as the Bifhop fhould have a 
Negative Voice in Ordinations ; but the Houfes 
voting this unfatis factory, becauie that the Bifhops, 
for three Years during the Continuance of the Pref- 
byterian Government, fhould have the chief Power 
of Ordination, and after thofe three Years the fole 
Power, there being no others vefted or intruded 
with that Power after the three Years expired, fo 
as Bifhops might by this Means creep in, and get 
up again by Degrees as high as ever : Thereupon 
the King, in his final Anfwer hereunto, tho' not 
fully fatisfied in point of Confcience but that the 
Power of Ordination is principally vefted only in 
Bifhops by Divine Authority, hath yet, for our Sa- 
tisfaction, thus far condefcended to us : 

I/?, * That for three Years next enfuing, during 
the Prefbyterian Government, no Bifhops fhall at 
^11 exercife this Power of Ordination in the 
Church. 

2dly, * That if he can be fatisfied in point of 
Confcience within that Time, upon Conference 
with Divines, that this Power of Ordination, fo 
far as to have a Negative Voice in it, belongs not 
upon Apoftolicai Bifhops by a Divine Right, then 
he will fully confent to the utter Abolition, even 
of this Power of Ordination in the Bifhops. 

^dfyy ' That after the three Years are expired, 
if th,e Eying can neither fatisfy his Houfcs in point 

of 




of ENGLAND. 349 

of Confcience, nor they him upon Debate, that this An. t4 . Car. I, 
Power of Ordination belongs Jure Divino, to Bi- 
(hops , that yet the Exercife of that Power fhall be 
totally fufpended in them, till he and both Houfes 
fhall agree upon a Government, and, by A& of 
Parliament, iettle a Form of Ordination ; fo as if 
both Honfes never confent that Bifhops (hall here- 
after have a Hand or Negative Voice in Ordina- 
tion, this Power of Bifhops is perpetually fufpend- 
ed, and, as to the Exercife of it, perpetually abo- 
lifhed, even by this Conceflion, fo as it can riever 
be revived again without both Houfes concurring 
Aflents. And by this Means Epifcopacy is totally 
extirpated, Root and Branch, according to the Co- 
venant, which hath been fo much prefled in this 
Debate ; though the Words of it have been fome- 
what miftaken, that we therein abfolutely cove- 
nant to extirpate Epifcopacy ; when as the Words 
are only, That we jhall endeavour the Extirpation, 
of Prelacy ^ that is, of Arcbbifhops and Bi/hop^ &c. 
And that certainly we have done, and in a great 
Meafure accomplifhed, fo far as to fatisfy both the 
Words and Intention of the Covenant, though a 
concurrent Power of Ordination be left in Bifhops, 
which yet is now totally fufpended : For, as we 
covenant in the fame Claufe, to endeavour to rott 
out Popery, SuperJIition^ Herefy y Schifm, Pfofane- 
nefe t and whatsoever foa II be found to be contrary to 
found Doftrine^ and the Power of Godlinefs j in the 
Extirpation of which I am certain we have not pro- 
ceeded, by an hundred Degrees, fo far as we have 
actually done in the Extirpation of Epifcopacy 
(there being no Fropofition at all in the Treaty for 
the Extirpation of Hcrefy, Schifm, and Errors, as 
there is of Epifcopacy) ; and yet the Gentlemen, 
who are fo zealous for the Covenant, pcrfuade 
themfclves they and we have not violated it in thefc 
Particulars ; therefore much Icfs in the Point of 
Prelacy and Bimops, fince we have left them no- 
thing at all but a mcer Power of Ordination, ac- 
tually fufpended from any future Execution, but by 
both Houfes Aifcnts. 




The Parliamentary H i s T o R Y 



The King,- by abolifning Archbiflhops 5 . 

_ and Deans and Chapters^ hath alfo therein atu- 

December. *fty abolimed all Bi&ops too for the future, ex- 
cept thofe who are already made : For, by th 
Laws and Cuftom of the Realm (*), noBifhopcan 
be confecrated but by an Arehbimop, or fome De- 
putation from him, in cafe of Sicknefs V nor any 
Bifliop made or confecrattd^ unlefs he be firft 
elecled by the Dean and Chapter, upon a Conge 
tTeJlire iiTued out to them to choofe one. Now, 
there being no Deans and Chapters left to elect* 
nor Archbiftiop to confecrate any Biihop for the 
future, there can be no Bilhop at nil hereafter made 
in England or Ireland, and fo the Biihop being 
thereby abolimed and extirpated, his Power of Or- 
dination muft be deftroyed with his Function, as 
well as fufpended, 

' All which confidered, I cannot but conclude 
the King's final Anfwer, as to the Office of, and 
Ordination by, Biflaops, to be compleately fatisfac- 
tory to our Demands : And fo much the rather, 
becaufe the King, in this Particular of Ordina- 
tion, pleads only Diflatisfaction in point of Con- 
fcience for clofmg with us in this feeming Punfti- 
lio; and if it were not meerly Conference, (tho* 
fome have over ramly cenfured it for a meer Pre- 
tence to keep up Bilhops ftill) he that hath granted 
and yielded us the greater, would never conteft 
with us for the lefier, nor go fo far in the Aboli- 
tion of Epifcopacy as he hath done. And truly^ 
I doubt not, but his Majefty, by Conference, may 
foon be fatisfied in this Point : Nay, had his own 
Divines dealt faithfully with him in the Ifle of 
IVight^ he might have been eafily fatisfied in this 
Particular : In which I doubt not, by God's Blef- 
fing, to undertake to fatisfy him, both in Point of 
Epifcopacy, that it is in all Things the fame with 
Prefbytery ; and that the Ordination of Prefbyters 
and Minifters, by Divine Right, belongs only to 
Prefbyters as fuch, and not to Bifhops as Bifhops ; 

who^ 

(*) See the Ordination of Minifters and Bi&ops in the Book r>* 
Common Prayer, alfo Stat , i et z. Pbi!, et Mar. cap. viii. 




of E N G L A N D. 351 

who, for above a thoufand Years after Chrift, claim- An. 24. Ci 
cd the chief, but not the fole Intereft in it ; not by 
Divine Right and Authority, but meerly by Ca- 
nons and Cuftom long after the Apoftles Times ; 
which I have proved at large long fmce in my Un- 
bijboping of Timothy and Titus ; which none of the 
Bifhops, or their Patrons, ever yet attempted to an- 
fwer, though I particularly challenged them to do 
it. 

Only this I fhall now fay, in brief, for fome Sa- 
tisfaction in the Point, to other Members : 

I/?, ' That there is no one Text of Scripture to 
prove that Bi{hops,y#tt? Divino, are diftinct from 
Prefbyters in any Thing, much lefs in this Parti- 
cular of having a Negative Voice, or fole or prin- 
cipal Intereft, as Bifhops fo diftinguifhed, in the 
Power of Ordination ; but a direct: Text to the con- 
trary, i Tim. iv. 14. to omit others. 

idly, c That the Pretence of appropriating Or- 
dination to Bimops, diftincl: from Prefbyters, by 
Divine Right, is grounded upon thefe two grofs 
Miftakes, that Timothy and Titus were Bimops 
properly fo called, the one of Ephefus, the other of 
Crete , and that this Power of ordaining Elders was 
vefted in them, quatenus Bimops only, and not 
otherwife, by Divine Inftitution. For Proof of the 
firft, the Poftfcripts of Paul's Epiftles to them 
(and not one Text of Scripture) are cited ; and the 
I Tim. v. 22. Tit. i. 5. relating only to Ordination, 
for the latter. But it is as clear as the Noon-Day 
Sun, by Scripture, that Timothy was never a Bi- 
fhop properly fo called, much kfs the firft or fole 
Bifhop of Ephcfus, as is evident by fundry Texts, 
efpecially by Acls xx. 4, 5, 6, 15, 17, 18, 28, 29, 
30, 31, compared together ; nor Titus a Bimop, 
properly fo termed, diftincl: from a Preibyter ; 
much lefs the firft or fole Biihop of Crete : Nor do 
either of thofe Texts prove that they had the Power 
of Ordination by Divine Right vefted in them two, 
merely as Bifhops, diftincl from, or fuperior to, 
Prefbyters, as I have undeniably manifefted in my 
Unbijboping of Timothy and Titus. And as for 

the 



352 < fbe Parliamentary H i s t o * 

An. 14. Car. I. the Poftfcripts to thefe Epiftles, terming Timothy 
ordained frjl Bijhop 0/Ephefus, and Titus o/ Crete, 
they are no Part of the Text ; but firft extant in, and 
invented by, Qectihienius (y] (not the moft authentic^ 
Author) above 1050 Years after Chrift, and an- 
nexed only to the End of his Commentary on thofe 
Epiftles, not adjoined to the Text ; and they are not 
only omitted in moft Manufcripts and printed Edi- 
tions and Tranflations of thefe Epiftles, but appa- 
rently falfe in themfelves, as I have at large de- 
monftrated in fome printed Books : Therefore this 
Point of Confcience may foon be fatisficd. 

3<#y, ' That no Bifhops, for 1200 Years after 
Chrift, did ever claim the chief Power in Ordina- 
tion by any Divine Right, as Bifhops ; but meerly 1 
by Canons or Cuftom lorig after the ApoftleS : And 
that in the primitive Times, before any Reftri&iori 
by Councils, Prefbyters in many Places did not only 
ordain Minifters arid Deacons without Bifhops, 
and Bifhops never but jointly with Prefbyters ; but 
Jikewife ordain Bifhops themfelves, as Jerom, Epi 
phaniuS) Augujline^ and others aflure us (z) ; and 
fometimes joined in the Confecration and Inftalment 
even of Popes themfelves and Archbifhops, for 
Defea of Bifhops. 

4//;', ' That it is the conftant Tenet of all the 
emtnenteft Proteftant Divines, and fome learned 
Papifts tooj and the Pradice of all the Reformed 
Churches, that the Divine Right of Ordination 
belongs originally to the whole Church ; but mi-* 
nifterially to Prefbyters, as fuch ; not to Bifhops 
as Bifhops (a] ; and that which undeniably clears it 
wp to me, is this, That in the New Teftament, 
we find both Apoftles, fome of the Seventy Dif- 
ciples, Evangelifts and Prefbyters equally ordaining 
Elders or Prcfbyters ; but not any one who is once 
in Scripture ftyled a Bifhop, either conferring Or- 
ders 

(j>) This I have fully proved in my Vl>fitpi*g *f Timothy and 
Titir. And 7L-i Awfrtby c/Englifli frtlacy to Unity and Mafiarcbjt 
part II. cap. ix. 

(z) See my Unit/hoping tf Timothy and Titus, where this is largely 
proved. 

(f) Ibid, aad in Gerfon, alfo Butcrut de Gubernet. Ecc!ef;ic. 



r/ ENGLAND. 353 

dcrs upon any, much lefs eo Nomine & y^ rf -> as An< 2 *" Car - r - 

a Bifhop : And, fmce the ApoftJes Times, we find, v I( ' , 

in point of Ufe and Practice, Popes, Patriarchs, December. 
Archbimops, Metropolitans, Cardinals, Abbots, 
in fome Places, (who are not Jure Divtno, nor 
Bimops properly fo called, but diilinguifhcd from 
them in Degree) ordaining Prefbyfers and Mini- 
fters, as well as Bimops, quatenus Bimops ; and 
that never by themfelves, but all by the Prefbyters 
joint Concurrence then prefent; who, by the fourth 
Council Of Carthage^ the Canon Law, the very 
Canons of Trent alfo, and our own Book of 
Ordination and our Canons, ought alfo to join 
with them in the Ordination : Now, all thefe di- 
ftinct Orders and Degrees claiming and exercifing 
this Power by a Divine Right, and mdny of their 
Functions being confefled not to be of Divine 
Rig-t, as Popes, Patriarchs, Archbimops, Metro- 
politans, Abbots, and Choral Biftiops, who yet 
ordain; and thefe always neceflarily calling Pref- 
byters, who are clearly of Divine Right, to join 
with them in their Ordination, and not doing it 
alone, is an unanfwerable Proof to me, that they 
all concur in this Action in no other Right or No- 
tion at all, but meerly as they are Prefbyters, in 
which they all accord, and have one and the fame 
Authority ; not in their own Capacities, wherein 
they are all difcriminated, and are not all of divine* 
but only of human, Inftitution ; Prefbyters, qua. 
Prelbyters, being the propereft Perfons to ordain 
others of their own Degree and Function, as Doc- 
tors of Divinity, Law, and Phyfic, in the Univer- 
fities, create Doctors of their fcvcral Profcffioris, 
and Bifhops confecrate Bifhops and Archbimops ; 
even as a Man begets a Man of his own Quality 
and Degree, and all other Creatures generate there- 
of their own Kind, without the Concurrence of 
any other diftinct Species paramount to them. 

4 As for the Angel of- the Church of Ephcfu>\ 
much infifted upon in the Ifle of Wight, to prov? 
an Epifcopacy, "Jure Divino Jiftint from Prefby- 
tery, I never read that this Angel ordained any 

VOL, XVIII. Z Prcfbv- 



354 c ^ }e Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 14 Car. I. Prefbyters, either quatenus Angel or Bifhop ; noi 

v [ 6 ^' , find I the Name of a Bifhop in any of St. John's 

December. Writings, but the Title of a Prefbyter or Elder 
very frequent, by which himfelf is ftyled : And I 
wonder much the King or his Bifhops fhould now 
fo much infift upon this Angel, and aflert him to 
be a Lord Bifhop, not an ordinary Minifter. 

* For, i/?, King James (m) himfelf and all the 
Sifnops of England^ with thofe learned Men em- 
ployed by them in the laft Tranflation of the Bible, 
in the very Contents prefixed to this Chapter, 
Rev. ii, refolve the Angels of thofe Churches to 
be Minifters, in thefe very Words, What is com- 
manded to be written to the Angeh, that is, the 
Alinijicrs.(\\ot Bifhops) of the Churches of Ephefus, 
Smyrna, <y'c. If then the Angels, by their joint 
Conceflions, when thefe Contents were firft com- 
pofed and prefixed, were only the Minifters, not 
Bifhops, of thefe Churches ; and this hath ever 
iince been conftantly admitted, confefled, and pub- 
lifhed to be fo even in our authorized Bibles, ufed 
in all Churches, Chapeis, Families, and printed 
cum Privilegio, five or fix Times every Year, with- 
out any Alteration or Difallowance of this Expofi- 
tjon, I marvel much how the Bifhops now dare 
inform the King that thefe Angels certainly were 
only Bifhops, but not Minifters diametrically con- 
trary to thefe authorized Contents of their own or 
PrcdecefTors affixing, with learned King James's 
Approbation ; or how his Majefty, when he knows 
it, can believe them, though they fhould aver it, 
againft his own Father's and the whole Church of 
England's Resolution, which hath fo long received 
and approved this Tranflation, excluding all others 
in public, and thefe Contents thereto prefixed. 

idly, c Admit this Angel of Epbefui to be a 
I>iocefan Bifhop, diftindt from an ordinary Pref- 
byter, yet he was but an Apoftate, who had left 
his firji Love, Ver. 4. And if Timothy, as they 
iiJTHin, was fole Bifirop of Ephefus t he muft be 

the 

(n /' See my Ast; fatly of tic Englift Prelacy, Part II. p. 4.79 t . 




of ENGLAND; 

ihd Apoftate, being at that Time living, unlefs he 
Jcfigned his Office to fome other $ which is im- 
probable. And for our Bifhops to father that December. 
Divine Right of their Prelacy upon an apoftate 
Angel, is no good Divinity, and lefs Policy at 
this Inftunt. And this their rotten Foundation 
upon an Apoftate, may^ probably, be the Ground 
why fo many Prelates, in this and former Ages, 
have turned Apoftates after they were created 
Bifhops. 

3///y, * If thofe Angels in the Revelations were 
really Lord Bifhops, then certainly the Elders 
therein mentioned can be no other thaji Prefbyters, 
not Bifhops, as the Prelates themfelves will grant : 
And, if foj then verily the Prefbyter is the Supreme 
of the two, both in Point of Dignity, Miniftry, and 
Precedency, which is very obfervable : For, frjt y 
I find the twenty-four Elders, there mentioned* 
fitting upon twenty-four Seats round about Chrift's 
Throne, and neareft to it (n), but the Angels ftand- 
ingj not fitting, round about it and them, with- 
out any Seats at all provided for them, as inferior 
Attendants (o). Secondly^ I find thefe Elders not 
only fitting on Seats next Chrift's Throne; but 
likewife clothed with white Raiment, and having 
on their Heads Crowns of Gold, (the Emblem of 
fupreme Authority, Power, and Honour) (p) where- 
as the Angels had neither white Raiment nor 
Crowns j fo it feems Bifhops had no Lawn 
Sleeves, nor Rochets, nor Mitres then, though 
they have fince ufurped and robbed the Prefbytcrs 
of them. 

4tbfy 9 c Thefe Elders, not the Angels, arc there 
always introduced wormiping and falling down 
before Chrift's Throne, holding Harps and golden 
Viols in their Hands full of Odours, reprefcnting 
the Prayers of the Saints, and fmging the new 
Song to him (q), as the principal Officers and Mini- 
Iters of Chriit j when as the Angels ftanding by, 
Z 2 at 

(n) R(T. iv. 4. xi. 16. () Ibid. v. IT. vii. jr. 

,*' laid. IT. 4, 10, it (yj IM. v. 8, 9. xi. 16, J-, 18- 



3 56 *fhe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. al or fpeak little ijrthefe Kinds, like our late dumb, 

l6 4 8 - j unpreaching, and rarely-praying Prelates. 
' December 5^' ' ^^ e twenty-four Elders, not the An- 

gels, fing this new Song of Praife to Chrift, Wor- 
thy art thou to take the Book^ &c. (r) and haji made 
us Kings and Pr/V/?j, not Angels or Bifhops, to God 
tke Father ; and we, not the Angels, that reign on 
fa Earth. Therefore, in all thefe Refpetfs, if 
the Angels, in the jfptlcalypff) be Bifliops, as cur 
Prelates dream, the Elders muft of Necefllty, Jure 
Di-vinoy be their Superiors and Lords Paramount 
in Point of Dignity, Honour, Sovereignty, and 
Miniftry ; and they inferior in Jurifdiction and 
^ower unto Prefbyters, not fuperior, as they would 
really make themfelves. When his Majefty (hall 
be informed of thefe, and many other Particulars 
of this Kind, I doubt not but his Confcience will 
be fo much fatisfied, as wholly to forego and lay 
afide his pretended Apoftolical Bifhops, both in 
Point of Function and Ordination too, as being 
the lame with Prefbyters : And ftnce, in his lall 
Paper but one, he hath profeflfed to retain no other 
Bifliops but fuch as are Apoftolical, he muft pre- 
fently quit all thofe about him, and their Pofleflions 
too, fmce neither of them are Apoftolical ; the Apo- 
ftolical Bifliops being always many over one Church 
or Congregation (s), not one over many Churches, 
or a whole Diocefe, as ours are ; and having no Pa- 
laces, Manors, Lands and PofFeflions, as I (hall prove 
in the next Particular, which comes to be now de- 
bated, having fully cleared this to be fatis factory. 
And how far his t f or ^ e f econ( ] Queftion, concerning the Sale 



of B.fhops Lands, How far the King hath condc- 
forSaleofBi- fcended to it, and whether the King's Anfwers to 
flM>s Lands ' the firft Branch of that Proportion be fatisfaflory 
in the premifed Senfe ? 

' I confefs I find this the grand and moft fwaying 
Argument of all others, ufed by thofe who differ 
from me in the Treaty as not fatisfactory, bccaufe 
the King abfolutely refufeth to agree to the Sale of 

Bifhops 

(r) Re--, v. 9, ie. 

(t) ,#7jxx. 17, *S. Pbil. i. i.<ITt< i. 5, 6, -,, 



of ENGLAND. 357 

Bifhops Lands, for the Satisfaction of thofe Public An. 24 car. I. 
Debts for which they are engaged by both Houfes j l6 ^- 
whereby Purchafers and Lenders upon that AfTu- rj^ f v m bcr ^ 
ranee will not be only defrauded, but cheated out 
of their Debts and Purchafes, many of them quite 
UP-',, r-e and ruined, and the Honour and Public 
I a of both Hoiiles for ever forfeited and laid in 
the Duft. And indeed this is a very fenhble />r- 
g/unent, efpecially to fuch Members who have 
t >urcrufed Bifhops Lands, or advanced Mo- 
iiies upon their Security, very fit to be fully an- 
fwered ; which I {hall endeavour to do, I hope, to 
their full Satisfaction and Content. 

4 I confefs it to be mod juft and equal, that ail 
who have purchafed Bifhops Lands, or advanced 
Monies to the State upon them, (hould receive full 
Satisfaction, and be no Lofers by it, but rather 
Gainers. And^ I could have aj heartily dc fired as 
any Member of this Houfe, that the King, in this 
Particular of Bifhops Lands, had given us plenary 
Satisfaction ; the rather, becaufe I was employed 
by the Houfes as one of the Contractors, though 
without my fceking, and to try Prejudice, by 
neglecting my Calling ; and receiving, as yet, not 
one Farthing Salary for it, though I have fpent and 
loft fome Hundreds of Pounds in and by that Em- 
ployment ; and had the King really done it, I pre- 
fume few Members of this Houfe, now of a dif- 
ferent Opinion, would have voted his Anfwers to 

the whole Treaty unfatisfa&ory : But to take 

them as they are, 

I ft, ' The King hath jo far condcfcendcd t9 their 
Sale and Difpofal^ made or to be made^ as that /// 
.J?ur chafers JlwU, by Act of Parliament^ enjoy a Lfnfc 
of tbem^ not from the Bijhops tbemfehes t but from the 
Crown^ for ninety-nine Tears Space ; referring only 
the Reverfions afterwards to the Crown, and that for 
the Ufc of the Church in general Terms. 

2dly, ' The King will be content with the Rff^- 
vation only of the old or fome other moderate 7v<v.Y, to 
him and his Heirs, to be employed only jcr the Church'? 
Ufe and Benefit. 

Z 3 3<%, 



3 5 8 *Tbe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. z4 Car. I. S^ly, * That, for the abfolute Sale or Alienation 

v l6 4 8 v _ ; of them, he cannot, in point of Confcience, confent unto 

D e^ ^' as being Sacrilege, and an unlawful Atf in the Opi- 

nion of all Divines^ as well in foreign Reformed 

Churches as dome/lie. 

' This, as I remember and conceive, is the Sum 
of his Majefty's final Anfvver to this Propofition. 

' To examine thefe Particulars a little in the 
general, and then by Parts. 

i/?, ' I muft make bold to inform you in the 
general, that the King, and his Predeceffors Kings 
of this Realm, were the (d) original Founders of 
all our Bifhopricks, and Patrons of them ; that all 
their Lands, Rents, and Revenues whatfoever, ori- 
ginally proceeded from the Crown and Kings of 
England, of whom they are holden ; and that, in 
Times of Vacancy, the King enjoys the Profits of 
their Temporalities as a Part of his Royal Revenue, 
and receives both Tenths and Firft Fruits out of 
them upon every Death or Tranflation of the 
Bifhops ; and therefore there is very great Reafon, 
and Juftice too, they fhould be ftill held of the 
Crown, and not totally tranflated out of it; and 
that the King and his Succeflbrs fhould receive 
fome reafonable Revenue or Compcnfation out of 
them, parting with fuch an Intereft, in Recom- 
pence for them. 

idly, ' That in the feveral Treaties with the 
King, in February 1642, and July 1646 (e), all 
the. Lands, Pofiefftons, Rents, and Reverlions, 
both of Archbifhops and Bifhops, and likewife of 
Deans and Chapters, an4 other Officers of Ca- 
thedral and Collegiate Churches, were, by A6t of 
Parliament, to be fettled in the very real and acr- 
tual PofTefTion of the King, his Fleirs and Succef- 
fors, for ever, to their own proper Ufe ; except 
only their Impropriations, Advowfons, Tythes, 
and Penfions, which are not now to be fold : And 
that the Ordinances for fettling of Bifhcps Lands, 

Rents, 



(</) See Cscdwint Catalogue of English BIJhops. Raflairi Abridg- 
ment ; Title Bijbops, Fir/1 Fruits, and Tenths. 

(<0 In our Twelfth Volume, p. 1475 and in our Fifteenth Vo- 
tuiiie, p. 20. 



of EN GLAND. 359 

Rents, and Poflcflions in Feoffees, and engaging An. a* Car 

and felling them for the Monies lent upon the Pub- l6 4- 

!,ic Faith, and alfo for raifmg 2co,ooo /. for dif- 

banding of the Scots Army, patted not the Houfes 

till Otfober and Nwcmhzr 1646 (f) ; till which Time 

there was no Thought nor Intent at all to fell or 

alienate them from the Crown. If then the Kin^, 

in two or three former Treaties, by both Houfes 

full and free Confent, and a Bill pailcd by them for 

that Purpofc, was to enjoy to himfclf, his Heirs 

.and SuccefTors, all the Demefne Lands, Manors', 

Pofleffions, Reverfions, Rents, Inheritances, and 

Revenues of Arehbifhops and Bimops, and lilce- 

wife of Deans and Chapters, Prebends, and the 

4ike, it feems to me very juft and rcafonahle that 

he fhould demand and enjoy the Reverfions of them 

after ninety-nine Years, and fuch a moderate Rent 

as he and both Houfes fhall agree on ; and that this 

Anfwer of the King's, wherein he demands fo little 

now, only for the Church's Ufe and Benefit, not 

bis own, fhould be fully fatisfa&ory, becaufe we 

were very well content, in former Treaties, that 

he and his Heirs fhould enjoy the whole., to their 

own Ufe only. 

3^//p, ' That near one Moiety of the Archbi(hop r . 
and Bifhops Pofleflions and Revenues confifts in Inv- 
propriations, Tythes, Pcnfions, and the like) which 
the King is content wholly to part with for the 
Increafe of Minifters Means, and Benefit pf the 
Church, without any Rcfervation or Recommence ; 
and with all Deans and Chapters Lands and Re- 
venues to boot : Therefore it (hould be unfatis- 
fac~lory or unreafonable in no Man's Judgment, 
for the King to referve fome Intercjft in the Revet - 
fions and Rents only of their Uemcfnc Lands. 

4tbfy t The Kijig demands the Reverfions of 
the Lands after ninety-nine Years, and fomc prc- 
fent moderate Rent, not for the Ufe and Support 
of the Bifhops, and to keep a Root for them to 
grow up again in our Church, as hath been mif- 
jaken by fome, (Archbilhops, and Bimops too, bc- 
Z 4 ing 

(/) In our Fifteenth Volume, p. 158, 9. 



j6p *flpe Parliamentary HISTORY 

A-n. 24 Car. I. j n g extirpated, Root and Branch, by the King's fot- 

, l * 8 ' , rner Anfwers, as I have manifefted) but only for 

December. tne Ufe of the Church, in fuch Manner as the King 
and we (hall agree to fettle them ; who fhall take 
Care that no Bifhop fhall be a Sharer in them, all 
being to be fettled in the Crown alone, and no- 
thing in Reverfion, .or Pofieffion, in or upon the 
Bifhops. 

$thly t The King copfents. That the Purchafers 
of Bifhops Lands fhall, by A6t of Parliament, have 
a Leafe of them for ninety-nine Years, referving 
the Reverfion only after that Term ; which I con- 
ceive is no ill, but a very good, Bargain for the 
Purchafers ; fuch a Leafe by A61 of Parliament, 
being far better than the whole Inheritance by a 
bare Ordinance of both Houfes j which, for ought 
I know, if not confirmed by a fubfequent A6t of 
Parliament, will prove little better than a Tenancy 
at Will, or a Leafe fo long only as this Parliament 
continues ; Ordinances of both Houfes only, with- 
out the King's Royal AfTent thereto, being a new 
Device of this prefent Parliament, to fupply feme 
prefent Necefiidcs for our necefiary Defence and 
rrefervation, during the King's Abfence and Hofti- 
lity, never known or us'd in any former Parliaments, 
whatever hath been conceived to the contrary : 
Therefore this Offer of the King's is no Prejudice 
at all, but a great Advantge, to the Purchafers, 
wherewith they {hould reft fully fatisfied. But 
admit it be any Lofs at all to them, and not rather 
a Gain, asThings now (rand in our tottering Condi- 
tion, yet it is only of the Reverfion of thefe Lands 
after ninety -nine Years, worth not above one Quar- 
ter or Half a Year's Pui chafe at the utrnoft ; which, 
confulering the low Values at which Bifhops Lands 
were fold, and the cheap Rates that moft Pur- 
chafers gave for Bills of Public Faith, with which 
they bought 'them, they may be well content to 
lofe, to fccure their Purchafes for ninety- nine Years 
in thefe tumultuous and fluctuating Times ; when 
fome wife Men, who have made fuch Pur-chafes, 
would very gladly give two or three Years P archaic, 

if 



cf E V G L A N D. 361 

pf not more, at the AfTurance Office, to any who An. 24. car. I. 
\vill infure their Eftates in Bifhops Lands for ib long 
a Term, and think they had a good Bargain too j 
at leaft-wife far better than the Bifhqps, in cafe 
they fhould revive again, as fomc fear,_who muft 
be kept ftarving for nine-nine Years in Expec- 
tation of a dry Reverfion. All which confidered, 
the King's Anfwers touching fuch Reverfions, I 
humbly conceive, will be very fatisfadlory to the 
Purchafers of Bifhops Lands themfelves, who are 
inoft cifpleafed with it^ 

' As to that which hath been obje&ed, That 
Tome have purchafed Reverfions of Bifhops Lands 
after ninety-nine Years in being, who muft abfo- 
lutely lofe their Purchafe- Money after this Ratej 
which is neither juft nor honourable for the Parlia- 
ment : 

' I anfwer, That this is but the Cafe of three or 
four only ; that their Purchafes are of no confuler- 
able Value, nor bought fmgly by themfelves, but 
jointly with Lands or Rents in Poflefiion of good 
Value ; in which they had the cheaper Purchafe to 
take off the Reverfion after fo long a Term ; which 
Lofs in the Reverfion they may contentedly under- 
go to purchafe their own and the Kingdom's Peace, 
and enjoy what they have purchafed, with thefe Re- 
vcrfions, in PofTeffion, without Trouble or Eviction 
by Act of Parliament, for ninety-nine Years Space; 
or receive other Satisfaction from the King and Par- 
liament to their Contentment, in fuch Manner as 
I fhall prefently inform you. 

btbfy, To that concerning the prefent Rents 
which the King demands out of Bifhops Lands, 
which flicks moft with Purchafers, many of them 
having purchafed nothing but Rents, and others 
more Rents than Lands in PofTefnon, which Rent:, 
muft all be loft, if they muft pay the old Rents o~ 
ver to the King to their Undoing ; which would be 
both unjuft, unconfcionable, and di (honourable t<> 
fheHoufes, upon whofe Affurance and Engagement 
to enjoy their Bargains, they were induced both 
to lend Money on, and to purchafe thefe Lands 
4 . after.- 



3%e Parliamentary HISTORY 

I. a fferwards ; and would be no better than plai n 
Cheating, and render them odious to all the World, 

fome have objected : 

' I will not anfwer this with caveat Empter, but 
defire. them to pbferve that the King, in his An r 
fwer, doth not peremptorily require the Bifhops 
old Rents during the ninety-nine Years ; but only 
disjunctively, either the old Rents, or fbme other 
moderate Rent to be agreed on ; and if only a mo- 
derate Proportion of the old Rent be paid to the 
King, the Purchafer is fure to enjoy the Refidue du- 
ring the ninety-nine Years ; and fb his Purchafe- 
Money not totally loft, as is objected. Betides, 
the King will not referve thefe Rents to the Ufe of 
himfelf or the Crown ; but only to the Church, 
and Maintenance of the Minifters, in fuch Manner 
as he and his Houfes (hall agree in the Bill for fet- 
tling thefe Lands in the Way propounded by him ; 
which Offer opens this juft and honourable Way 
for the Houfes to give all Purchafers of Bifbops 
Lands and Rents full Satisfaction, both for the Lofs 
of their Revertions after ninety-nine Years, and for 
the prefer. t Rents which fhall be referved to the 
Crown, out of Bifhops Lands, to the Church's 
Ufc ; which I believe the King and Houfes will 
readily confcnt to j and that is, to fettle, by Act 
of Parliament, fo much of the Dean and Chapters 
tlemefne Lands and Rents upon the Purchafers, as 
the Lofs of their Reverfions, after ninety-nine 
Years, and prefent Rent to the Crown, fhall a- 
mount unto upon a juft Computation : By which 
Means the Purchafers, by way of Exchange of 
Deans and Chapters Lands ?.nd Rents for thofe of 
Bifhops, fhall have fuch full and fatisfactory Con- 
tent, even in Kind, as will clear the Honour, Juf- 
tice, and Reputation of the Houfes fair Dealings, 
in this Particular, throughout all the World ; and 
give the Minifters full Satisfaction likewife, for the 
Augmentation of whofe Livings and Maintenance 
the Deans and Chapters Lands and Rents are de- 
figned, by fettling the Reverlion and Rents re- 
ieived to the Crown out of the Bifhops Lands, for 

the 



of E N G L A N D. 3 $ 3 

tjie Church's Ufe, upon thofe who fhould have en- An. 2+ c ir . I. 
joyed Deans and Chapters Lands, thus fettled on l6 4 s - 
the Purchafers by Exchange : which being of equal VT^ """""""' 
Value, can be no Lofs nor Prejudice to any. 

* This is fuch a vifible and real Satisfaction to 
all Purchafers, as none of them can juftly open 
their Mouths againft, being both for their own Se- 
curity and Advantage, and the Kingdom's Settle- 
ment': But if any of them diflike this real Satif- 
faclion, which the King, no doubt, will yield to, 
there is another Means provided by this very 
Treaty for their Satisfaction j and that is, by ready 
Money for whatever they (hall lofe by Bifhops 
.ands in Pofleflion or Jleyerfion, by this Referva- 
tion to the Crown ; which I am fure they neither 
will nor can refufe in Juftice or Equity j they hav- 
jng the Bifhops Lands conveyed to them only by 
way of Mortgage or Security, for Monies lent 
upon the public Faith ; and the Houfes, by. the 
Te;ith Article of this Treaty, have Time, with- 
in two Years Space, by Act or A<b, to raife any 
Sums of Money for the Payment of the public 
Debts of the Kingdom, whereof the Monies lent 
upon Bifhops Lands and the public Faith are a 
principal Part; and the fame Juftice of the Houfes, 
which hath already provided, by feveral Ordi- 
nances, a iufficicnt Recompence and Satisfaction 
for Purchafers oj Bifhops Lands in Cafes of Evic- 
tion, or pf emergent Charges and Incumbrances 
difcovered after the Purchafes made, may be a fuf- 
ficient ATTurancc to them of the Houfes Juftice, 
that they will give them as good or better Satisfac- 
tion by one of thefe two Ways I have here pro- 
poundedj for any Thing they fhall part with to the 
King or Church for the Settlement of the King" 
tlom's Peace'. 

Jthly y ' It hath been the folcnin Protcftation and 
Declaration of both Houfes of Parliament, in .ill 
their Remonftrances to the King, Kingdom, and 
foreign States, That they have taken up dcfcnfive 
Arms aga'mft the King's Party only for the Miiitite- 
nance of Rilighn, Lcivs, Libertict, &c. and to bring 

Ddin- 



364 -*fhe Parliamentary HISTORY 

2 * S- ar ' ' Delinquents to condign Punifoment. Now Bifhops 

1040. T jf i r T i 

. i lianas and Kents, 1 am certain, are neitnr our. 

ecember. Religion, Laws, nor Liberties, and I think they 
are no Delinquents, tho' moft Bifhops are. And 
fhall we now, after feven Years War, and fixty 
Days Treaty, make Bifhops Lands, which for five 
Years Time or more of our Wars were never 
thought of, the fole or principal Caufe at leaft of 
cur prefent Breach with the King, and the only 
Ground of a new War ? God forbid. Will not all 
the World then juftly cenfure us for notorious Hy- 
pocrites and Impoftors, pretending one Thing and 
intending another ? Will they not then fay, that 
Bifhops Palaces and Lands were the only l^eligion 
and Liberty we have fought for, the only Delin- 
quents we have brought to public Juftice and Exe- 
cution ? That we would never have fupprelfed 
Archbifliops and Bifhops, nor entered into a So- 
lemn League and Covenant, with Hands lifted up 
to Heaven, to endeavour to extirpate them as Anti- 
chriftian, but only to gain and retain all their Lands 
and Revenues ; and never condemned their Func- 
tions, but only to feize on their Poflfflions ? And 
that we muft now maintain an Army upon their 
exhaufted Purfcs and Eftates, only to defend thefe 
Purchafers Titles to the Bifhops Inheritances ? If 
fo, for Shame, let us never break off this Treaty, 
nor ruin two or three Kingdoms, upon fuch an ab- 
furd Diflatisfa&ion as this. And if our Purchafers 
of Bifhops Lands fhall ftill refufe to reft fatisfied 
with that twofold Recompence I have formerly 
mentioned, and keep up an Army to maintain their 
Purchafes, rather than yield to any Reafon,.! fhall 
humbly move, That not the whole Kingdom, but 
themfclves alone, may defray the Army's Taxes 
and Quarters ; and then I am certain they will have 
a dearer Bargain than what the King or I have pro- 
pofed for their Satisfaction. 

' And, the better to perfuade them to embrace 
this Compenfation, I have only this more to offer 
both to them and you, That if you break off with 
the King upon this Point, or clofe with the Army, 

they 



of E N G L A N D. 365 

they are moft certain to lofe all ; for a bare Orui- A. a+ Car. i. 
nance of both Houfes is no legal Title, nor good t ^ ' A 
Security againft King or Bifhops, without the D^wni*!. 
King's Concurrence and Royal Affent unto it ; and 
valid no longer than maintained by the Sword, the 
worft and moft hazardous Title of all others, which 
will quickly coft the Purchafers and Kingdom 
treble the Value of all the Bifhops Revenues ; ant! 
if they clofe with the Army to break the Treaty, 
they tell them in direct Terms in Print, in The 
Cafe of the Army truly Jlated, prefented to the Ge- 
neral by the Agitators of the Army, at Hampftead, 
Qttober 15, 1647, p. 1 6, That whereas the Times 
were wholly corrupt, when Perfons were appointed 
to make Sale of Bijhops Lands ; and whereas Par- 
liament-Men, Committee- Men, and Kinsfolks were 
the only Buyers, and much is fold, and yet it is pre- 
tended that little or no Money is received. And 
whereas Lords, Parliament-Men, and feme other 
rub Men, have vaji Sums of Arrears allowed them 
in their Pttrchafe, and all their Monies lent to the 
State paid them, while others are left in Necejffity, 
to whom the State is much indebted j and fo prefent 
Money, that might be for the equal Advantage of all, 
is not brought into the public Treafury by thofe Sales : 
It is therefore to be infi/hd on, that the Stile of Bi- 
Jhops Lands be reviewed, and that they may be fold 
to their Worth, and for prefent Monies for the Pub- 
lic Ufe ; and that the Sale of all fitch be recalled ay 
have not been fold to their Worth, or for prefent 
Money. 

' This Particular, among others, they profefs 
they have entered into a Solemn Engagement to 
profccute, and are now marched up to London ac- 
cordingly to purfue it, as their late Remonftrance 
and Declaration intimates, and themfelves pro- 
felled by Word of Mouth ; which I defire tha 
Members who have purchafed Bifhops Lands, who 
are generally moft unfatisfied with the King's An- 
fwers, efpccially in this Particular, fciioufly to cnn- 
fider ; and then to make their Election, Whether 
they will now clofe with the King's Conccllions, 



366 STSff Parliamentary H i s T o R f 

An. 14 Car. I. and what I have here propounded for Satisfacftori 
t l6 4S- of their Reverlions after ninety-nine years, and 
December P re ^ ent Rents they may chance to part with, and 
fb fecure their Purchafes for this Term by Act of 
Parliament ; and have full Compenfation for what 
they part with, either in ready Money, or Deans 
and Chapters Lands and Rents, and fo be n9 
Lofers, but great Gainers, by the Bargain ; or elfe 
break with the King to pkafe the Army, and fp 
be certain to lofe all between them ; not only once 
but twice over : For the Agitators in the Army tell 
them plainly, That all their Purchafes Jhall be re- 
viewed j and if they have purchased them at an un- 
der Rate, or not for ready Money, (which not one 
of them hath done, but by Tickets of their own, 
or bought at very low Values of others, which 'tis 
like they will alfo examine) then their Sales Jhall be 
alfolutely recalled, and fold to others at full Values 
for ready Money ; and fo all is loft in good Earned, 
or elfe they muft re-purchafe them for ready Mo- 
nies at higher Values, without any Afiurance 
from the King by Acl: of Parliament ; and fo 
lofe them again the fecond Time, if ever he or 
his Prelatical Party fhould prevail, and yet be in- 
forced to anfwer and reftore all the mefne Profits 
they have taken to boot* A very hard Chapter 
and Bargain todigeft, if they advifedly confider it; 
which, by accepting the King's Offer, is moft cer- 
tainly prevented ; who, perchance, in fhort Time, 
upon fecond Thoughts* and Conference with 
learned Men for the Satisfaction of his Confcience 
in the Point of Sacrilege, if he fhould confent 
to the total Alienation of thefe Lands from the 
Church, may come up fully to our Defires, and 
part with the very Inheritance to the Purchafers, 
as amply as they have purchafed it, rather than 
leave his own and the Kingdom's Intcreft wholly 
unfrttled. 

* And, for my Part, I make little Queftion, that 
had the Prelates and Clergymen with the King, at 
the Ifle of Wight, dealt fo candidly and clearly 
with him in this Particular of the Sale of Bifhops 

Lands, 



of ENGLAND. 367 

Lands, they might have eafily fatisfied his Con- An. 24 Car, I. 

icience in this very Thing, as well as in others, ( l6 * 8 ' 

from thefe Grounds and Matters of Fact, which I December, 
(hall but point at to fatisfy others, who perchance 
are fcrupulous herein, even in point of Conference, 
as well as the King. 

. ijty * The King, in his laft Paper but one, in 
cxprefs Terms profefTeth, That be hath abolijhcd all 
but the Apojloiual Bijhops, invefted with a Negative 
Voice cr Power in point of Ordination : And, if fov 
then I am certain he hath likewife abolifhed all 
Bifhops Palaces, Lordfhips, Revenues, Rents, and 
Pofleilions ; it being moft certain that neither the 
Apoftles themfelves, nor any Apoftolical Bifhops of 
their Ordination in their Days, or for above three 
hundred Years after, had any Lands or Pofleilions 
annexed to their Apoftlefhips, or Bifhopricks ; but 
lived merely upon the Alms and voluntary Contri- 
butions of the People (tf), as Chrilt himfelf, Paul, 
and the other Apoftles did, as all Hiftorians ac- 
cord (/). If then his Majefty will retain none but 
Apoftolical Bifhops, he muft nec^flarily take away 
their temporal Lands and PofTeflions annexed to 
their Bifhopricks, to make them fuch, if he hath 
not already done it by his final Anfwer to this Pro- 
pofition, as I conceive he hath. 

2*//y, * It is generally agreed by Hiftorians, that Biftopj, in the 
Conftantine the Great (our own Countryman born, P tl ' rilUV <; Times, 

j r A JT- -vtu i " ad n * Re venu e > ' 

and nrft crowned hmperor at Tork^ to the eternal or temporal En- 
Honour of our Ifland, he being the firft Chriftiandcwmmti. 
Emperor, and greateft Advancer of the Chriftian 
Religion, and Deftroyer of Paganifm) was the 
hrft who endowed the Church and Bifhops with 
any temporal PofTeflions, about three hundred and 
fifty Years after Chrift ; though his pretended Do- 
nation to the Pope be but a meer Fable, as Dr. Crac- 
ktntborp (<), and others, have manifeftcd at large. 

Now 

(j) Mat. viii. 20. Luke viii. i. A<3s iii. 6. ir. 34, ^, 36, 37. 
T. i, to c. x. 34. i Cor. iv. 12. i TheC ii. 9. I'M. iv. u, 
to *O. 2 Cor. xi. 7, g, 9. Cial. i. g. 

() . 

(c) 



368 *Tbe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. J. Now Joannes Parijienjis (d)^ Nauclerus's Polychront~ 
l648 ' , con (e) ; our Englifh Apoftle, John Widliffe (f) ; our 
December. noble Martyr, the Lord Cobham (g) j John Fr'ith^ 
Martyr (h) ; learned Bifhop Jewel (i), and others 
out of them (), record, That when Conjiantine en- 
dowed the Church and Bifliops with temporal Lands 
and Pofleffions, the Voice of an Angel was heard in 
the Air, crying out, Hodle J^tnenum infunditur in 
Ecclefiam^ this Day is Poifon poured into the whole 
Church of God : And from that Time, fay they, 
becaufe of the great Riches the Church had, {he 
was made the more Secular; and; had more worldly 
Bufmefs than fpiritual Devotion, and more Pomp 
and Boaft outward than Holinefs inward ; Religia 
peperit Divitias, & Filia devoravit Matrem ; which 
our Bifliops, and Tranflators of the Bible, likewife 
mention in their Epiftle prefix'd to it. And Oak- 
ham (I) faith, and others obferve, That whereas all 
or jnoft of the Bifliops of Rome before that Time 
were Martyrs, fcarce one of them proved a Mar- 
tyr afterwards ; but, inftread of being Martyrs, fell 
a perfecuting and making Martyrs. And if this 
Voice of the Angel, (perchance a Biftiop, fmce 
our Prelates will needs have the Angels in Rev. ii. 
to be Bifliops) was true, and fubfequent Experi- 
ence hath found it fo, that Bifhops and Church- 
men's temporal Lands, Pofleffions, and Endow- 
men s, are no other but Poifon to the Church ; and 
his M..jefty be convinced of the Truth of this Story, 
I hope he will be fatisfied in point of Confcience* 
that it is no Sacrilege, but wholefome Phyfic, to 
take away this Poifon from the Church, which 
hath fo much infected and corrupted it ; and would.; 
in fine, deftroy it and the Bifhops too, and eat out 
ail their Piety and Devotion^ 

(d) In Vita Sylvejtr!, Cap. xxii. 
(?) Hift. lib, iv. cap. xxvi. 

(f) Dialog, lib. iv. cap. xv, xvi, xvii, xxvi. 

(g) Fox't A&i and Monuments, p. 517, 1522; 

) Anfwer to the Preface of M. Moore's Book, p. Ti5. 
(i) Sermon on Eaggai i. p. 176. Defence of tfae Apology, p; Vi. 
cap. ix divif. iii. 

(k) Thomas Bacar- 1 ! Reports of certain Men, VJ. III. 
(1) OfusacDieruvi, tap. cxxiv. 



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3<//y, * Moft Bifhops, long after Cohjl anting* An. 24 Car. 
*Time, had very fmall or no Revenues, or Lands, and ^ 6 ^ 8 - 
no other Palaces to refide in, but poor little Cotta- r>cember 

s ; it being all Men's Opinion in thofe Days (;), 
hat ftately Palaces belonged only unto Emperors 
and Princes, and Cottages and Churrhes unto Bi- 
fhops. The fourth Council of C >-:}: ae(rt}^ about 
the Year of our Lord 390, decreed, That the Bi- 
(hops fhould have Hofiitiot-nn, a little Cottage or 
Hofpital to dwell in near the Church, not a Palace. 
And in the Excerp-ions of Egbert Archbifhop of 
York) An. 750, I find the fame Canon renewed 
among us, as the Canon Law of this Realm; That 
Biftiops and Prefbyters {hould have Hofpitiohim, a 
fmall Cottage near the Church, to live in ; not a 
ftately Maniion : So as our Bifhops, in thofe Days, 
had no great Palaces, Manors, TemporaHti.-s; and 
their very Cathedrals were built only with Wattle, 
or a few Boards pieced together, and covered but 
with Reed ; Stone Churches, covered over with 
Slate or Lead, not being in Ufe among the Bri- 
tons , Scots or Irijh, for many hundred Years, as 
Bifhop L#*r himfclf afTerts out of Bede(p}, and Ber- 
nard in his Life of Malachi. And if their Cathe- 
dral Churches were fo mean, their Palaces certain- 
ly were but anfwerable, poor little Cottages, and 
their Revenues little or nothing but the People's 
Alms. St. jfugttftme 9 that renowned Bifhop of 
Hippo^ had but a mean Houfe to live in, his Difhes 
and Trenchers were all Earthen, Stone, or Wood; 
his Table furnifhed with Pulfe, Herbs, and a little 
Pottage only, forthemofi: part, fcldom with Flefh ; 
he had no Plate but five or fix Spoons ; and when 
he died he made no Will at all, becaufe the poor 
Saint of Chrift had nothing to bequeath, as Poji- 
ilcnius records in his Life (q}. St. Chnfoflom^ the 
VOL. XVIII. A a great 

() Fox'i Afit and Monumentt, Vol. II. p. 609 and 6io. 
() Cratian. D,fl. 4.1. 

(0) Spe/manni Coact/ia, Tom. I. p. aOr tt 463. 
(p] Eulef. 11$. lib. HJ. cap. iv, v, DC BrituanU* E<t!tfi<f ?rt- 
tocrdiis, cap. iv. p. 661, 736, 737, 13, 14. 




c fhe Parliamentary HISTORY 

great famous Patriarch of Conftantinople (r), and 
Gregory Nanzianzen,\\isPreCece([or(s}, had noftate- 
ty Palace, Furniture, Houfhold-Stuff, or Train of 
Attendants, nor any Goods or Revenues at all ; 
nor John the Almoner thai fucceeded them ; nor 
that famous Spiridun, who kept a Flock as a mean 
Shepherd, though a Bimop : And eminent St. Hie- 
rom^ though no BiChop, yet the learnedeft and moft 
famous Scholar in his Age, or any after, and of 
great Repute, writes of himfelf (/), that he lived In 
pauperl Tugur'iolo^ in a poor little Cottage having 
Icarce Cloaths to cover his Nackednefs : So St. 
Ambrofe, Biihop of Milan? was very poor ; brake 
the Chalices in Pieces to relieve the poor People, 
and ufed this Maxiir., GLjrisfa in Sacer'dotibus Do- 
mini Paupertas (). And if chefe great Lights, Bi- 
fhops and Fathers of the Church, in whofe Names 
our Prelates fo much triumph, were fo poor, that 
they had no Palaces, Houfes, and Temporal Pof- 
feffions, as our Arc'hbifhops and Bifhops had, I can 
yet tlifcern no Matter of Conference in it, why our 
Bjftiops fhould have more than thefe Pillars of the 
Church either enjoyed or deiired j they being con- 
tent with Food and Raiment, as Paul was, and 
defiring no more. It is ftoried of our ancienteft 
Bifnops that I read of (#), prefent at the Council 
of Arimlnum, Ann. Dom. 379, that they were fo 
poor that, Inopia proprii, publico ufi funt, they 
were maintained at the Emperor's public Ccft, for 
Want of private Maintenance of their own ; yet 
they were eminent both for Piety and Learning. 
And if their Predeceilbrs were anciently fo poor, it 
is no Point of Conscience to deprive our Lord Bi- 
fliops not only of their Lands but Function too, for 
the Peace and Settlement of three Kingdoms, now 

at 



(r] See his Life before his Works, tl:n. xxxiii, on Matt, xxi, on 
I C:r. ' 

(s) NaKianyrni Orat. 3 15. Kicfpt-ari Ecelef. Hift. lib. viii. cap. 4Z. 
lib. xviii.cap. 39. Socratis Ecc'uf. fti/i. lib. i. cap. 12. 

(0 Epift. i. 

(u) Mr. Wbtteuball, p. 44, 45, 46. 

(*) Sulpitii Severi Saer. IJijl. lib. ii. 'U/eiiut de Brit. Ecclej. 
PrimirditS) p. 196, 



of E N G L A N D. 37 i 

at the Point of Ruin. When the Church of Chrift An. 24 Car. * 
was miferably rent and torn in Africa by the l648 ' t 
fchifmatical Donatifts, who would have no Pre- December 
lates and Riihops, that eminent Bifhop of Hippo, 
St. Aii*uftine, and almoft 300 African Bifhops 
more, were content to lay down their Bifhopricks 
wholly for thut Church's Peace ; and thereupon 
St. Au?uftine uttered thefe memorable Words (y} 9 
(which I heartily wiih all our Bifhops would con- 
fider, and then they would lay down both their 
Lands and Biftiopricks too for our three King- 
doms prefent Peace) An vero Rcdemptor noftcr, c3Y. 
JPliat, verily i did our Redeemer defccnd from Heaven 
it f elf i;-to human Members, that we fnould be modi 
his Members, and do we fear to defcend out of our 
Chairs, left his very Members fauld t>2 torn in 
Pieces with cruel Divijions ? We are ordained Bi- 
Jhops for Chriftian People ; that, therefore, which 
profiteth Chrijfian People to Chrijlian Peace, that 
let us do concerning our Epifcopacy. Wont I am, / 
am for ihee, if it profit thee ; I am not, if it hurt 
thee. If we be profitable Servants, why d'j we envy 
the eternal Gains of our I or d for our temporal Subli- 
mities ? Our Epifcopal Dignity will be more fruitful 
to us, if, being laid down, it fiall more unite the 
Flock of Chrijl, than if it Jhall difperfe it, being re- 
tained. If when I Jball retain tny Biftioprick, I 
Jhall difperfe the Flock of Chrijt, how is this Da- 
mage of the Flock the Honour of the Pajlor ? For 
with what Forehead Jhall we hope for the Honour 
prcmifedfrom Chrijl in the I'/orld to come, if our Ho- 
nour in this World hinder Chrijlian Unity ? They 
had no Bifhops Lands then to part with ; but yet, 
for Peace and Unity's Sake, they were thus con- 
tent to part with their very Biftiopdoms them- 
felves. And will not the King then, in point of 
Confcience, part \vith th'e Bifhops Lands for our . 
prefent Peace, when he fhall know, or be truly in- 
formed of all this ? 

\thly, c For the Judgment of Divines ; I could 
produce divers againit the great Poflellions of Bi- 
A a 2 ihopi 

deGtflii D;nst. torn. VII. part I. p. 771. 



372 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I-fhops in all Ages, as making them fecular, proud, 
'648- vicious, tazy, which I hr.ve formerly publifhed 
December at ' ar g e ( z ') 5 but I ^ a ^ on ty at P r -fent inform 
you, th 't our famous John Wiekliffk profeffedly 
maintained (a] That the King and Temporal Lords 
griev-yjfly iinned, in endowing the Bifhops with 
large temporal Pofieflions, which had reverfed 
Chrift's Ordinances, an;l procreated Antichrift ; 
and that they were bound in Confcien>:e to take 
away their Lands and Temporalities from them, 
which they had abufed to Pride, Ambition, Dif- 
cord, fcfr. His Difciples, our noble Martyrs, 
JVilliam Sivinderby, "John Purvey, Sir John Old- 
cajlle ; and, after them, Pierce Plowman, Geoffrey 
Chaucer, Mr. Tmdall, Dr. Barnes, John Frith, Sir 
'Jchn Borthwick, a Martyr, and Author of A Sup- 
plication to King Henry VIII. the Author of The 
Image of a very Chriftian Bijhop, and a counterfeit 
Bijhop ; William Wraugbton, in his Hunting of the 
Romifli Fox ; Mr. Fifh, in his Supplication of Beg" 
gars ; Henry Stalbridge, in his Exhortatory Epiftle ; 
and others were of the like Judgment ; and Rode- 
rick Morfe, in his Supplication to the Parliament, in 
Henry V Ill's Reign, to omit Penry and others, in 
Queen Elizabeth's Reign. And why there fhould 
be more Sacrilege in taking away Bifhops Lands 
in England than in Scotland, or Abby Lands here- 
tofore from Abbits and Priories, I cannot yet dif- 
cern. All which confidered, I hope his Majefty's 
Confcience may and will be rectified in this Parti- 
cular, before the Treaty be abfolutely confirmed 
by Ats of Parliament, fo as this of Bifhops Lands 
fhall make no Breach between us ; in clearing of 
which I have been the more prolix, becaufe it is 
moft infifted on of any Thing, in point of Difla- 
tisfa&irn, both by the King and us. 

The King's < As for all our other Proportions, relating to 

the^PeaoTand 1 tne Peace and Settlement of the Church, the King 
Settlement of hath fully afi'cnted to them in Terminis j as, name- 
the Church. ] 

(x^ In my Brcviate of the Prelates Ufurpation, Epiftie dedicatory 
and .Appends. The Antipathy of Englifh Prelacy, Fart II. 

(a. Dialog, lib. iv. cap. 15, ,6, 7, 18, 26, 27. Walfirglam.^.^^ 
302 to 307. Ftxi dfisand Monuments, p. 398, 414, 431, 434. 



of E N G L A N D. 373 

ly, to the Bill For the better Advancement of the An. 24 Car. I. 
preaching of God's IVord^ and fettling godly Mini/1 ers 1648- 

in all Parts of the Kingdom ; to the Bill againft ' ""' 

"Pluralities and Nonrejidency ; to an Act: For Confir- 
mation of the Calling and Settling of the Afftmbly of 
Divines ; to an A6b For the Confirmation of the Di- 
rettory, and abolijhing the Book of Common Prayer 
throughout the Kingdom^ and in the King's own 
Chapel too, yielded unto in the King's final An- 
fwer, though formerly ftuck upon ; to an Al For 
taking the Covenant throughout the Realm ; only the 
King flicks at it, as yet unfatisfied in Conference 
as to the taking of it himfelf without fome Qua- 
lifications in it, which a Committee were appointed 
to confider of, but have not yet reported ought to 
the Houfe. Befides, he hath approved the Leffer 
Catechifm as far as you defired, who reft fatisfied 
with his Anfwer concerning it : And as for the 
Prefbyterian Government, he hath abfolute!y con- 
fented to fettle it for three Years. 

' But it hath been much infifted on by many, 
That the King's Grant of the Prefbyterian Go- 
vernment is nowife fat is factory, becaufe only for 
three Years ; and therefore they will break off\the 
Treaty for this Reafon, and vote the King's An- 
fwers upon the whole unfatisfactory, becaufe too 
fhort in this Particular : 

' To which I anfwer, i/?, That the King, in 
Terminis, hath granted as much as we defired. We 
defired its Settlement but for three Years j and 
many, who moft pretend DifTatisfacYion in this 
Point now, did, and do indeed, defire no fettled 
Government at all, no not for three Years Space : 
Therefore, if there be any Default in this, it was 
in the Houfes Propofition only, not in the King's 
Anfwer ; who was not obliged to grant us in this 
Particular, or any other, more than we defired. 

idly, 4 After the three Years Expiration, the 

Prefbyterian Government muft remain till a new 

be agreed upon by the Confent of the King and 

both Houfes, upen Conference and Advice with 

A a 3 the 




Tfje Parliamentary His TORY 

the Affembly of Divines ; or that further eftablifti- 
ed, if found beft and IIK ft fuitable, in the Interim. 
December. ' $o as now upon all the Branches of this Trea- 

ty, and the K'ng's Anfvvers thereunto, I conceive 
the King's Anfweis to be completely fatisfa&ory 
in that Senfe I h.;ve ftaied and debated the Quef- 
tion, as well for the Safety and Settlement of our 
Church and Religion as Kingdom, though the 
King's Anfwers come not fully up tp the Propofi- 
tions in fome two or three Particulars only. 

* It is ftoried of Alexander the Great (*), That 
one demanding of him to give him a Penny, he re- 
turned him this Anfwer, That It was too little for 
Alexander to give: Whereupon he demanded a 
Talent of him ; whereto he replied. It was too 
much for a Beggar to receive. We have demand- 
ed of the King, in our own and the Kingdom's 
Behalf, in former Treaties, but a Penny in Com- 
parifon, i;nd then the King refufed to grant it, 
though we would have been heartily contented 
with it, or lefs ; but now we have, in this Treaty, 
demanded a Talent, and the King hath not thought 
it over-much for him to grant, or for us to receive ; 
and if we {hall now ungratefully reject it, we 
know not why ourfelves, unlefs it be that God 
hath infatuated and defigned us unto fpeedy Ruin 
for our Sins, I muft needs take up our Saviour's 
Lamentation over dying Jervfalem^ in relation un- 
to England (b}^ Oh that tbou kcdji krc-ivn, in this 
thy Day^ the Things that belong unto thy Peace ; but 
now they are hid from thin* Eyesd And I pray God 
they be net io tar hid, that we fhall never live to 
fee any Peace or Settlement at all in Church or 
State, if we embrace not thcfe Ccnceifions now j 
the belt, the krgeft, the honouiabldt, the fafeft, 
and n,e-ft beneiteial, that ever were tendered to 
any -Ptople by a King ; which if we now reje6t, we 
fiiali never have the Moiety of them granted to us 
again, no, though vs:> feck them carefully ;n7;> Tears, 
as Ejau did his ! a it Biefiing, when he had over- 
flipc his Time but a very 1; 

'Mr. 

(a) Phitarcbi dpoytkcgmata, (b) Luke xix. 42. 



^ENGLAND. 375 

Mr. Speaker, For my Part, I value no Men's bare An, 24 Car. l< 

Opinions in this Debate, but their Reafons which % l6 -' 8 - 

intoice them ; and, if I h.v^ not quite left my December. 
Reafon and Senfes too, I have not heard one folid 
Reafon given by any Gentleman that diflxrs from 
me, why the King's Conctilions upon the whole 
Treaty ihould be thought fo unfatisfaclory as utterly 
to reject them, and proceed no further. Moft of 
the Reafons to the contrary have been either clear 
Miftakes, both of the Queftion and King's An- 
fwers, or our own Proportions, (and Miftakes are 
no Reafons, but irrational) or a Fear in fome Pur- 
chafers of Biihops Lands of an ill Bargain, which, 
I prefume, I have fully fatisfied ; or, that which is 
to me the moft unreafonable, tho' many Gen.le- ~,, ~,. . e 

, .. r . i r> /- i A 5 TNT The Obietlion or 

men s chief and only Reafon, the Army s Difcon- the . ; .i 
tent and Diflatisfadtion, in cafe we vote the Treaty c ntert if the 
fatisfaaory; to which I fhall give this Anfwer; JJH>Tc"- 
' That tho' 1 honour the Army for their good Atji .-'$ a fuffi- 
Services heretofore in the Field and War?, and cienc Gr und of 
fhould as readily gratify all their juft Deim-, as Peace) aniwercd > 
Soldiers, as any Man ; yet I muft, with iiu 
dain and Cenfure, look upon their ma^iilerial iLn- 
croacl^ments upon our Councils, and Prefcrip;io - is 
to us what to vote in our Debates, or elfe tho ,1 
be incenfed, as the higheft Violation to the Free- 
dom, Honour, and Privileges of Parliament, not 
to be precedented in former Times, nor new to 
be endured. We all fit here, freely to fpeak our 
own Minds, not the Army's Pleafure ; to follow 
our own Conferences and Judgments, not their im- 
perious Dictates ; to fatisfy the whole Kingdom, 
and thofe who have intrufted and lent us hither, 
whofe Reprefentatives and Servants we are, not 
the Army's, by pitching upon that which h moft 
conducing to their Welfare and cur own too; not 
to fitisfy the Army in sill their umeafonable ex- 
travagant Demands, who are but ours and the 
Kingdom's Servants, not Mafters, to the King- 
dom's, People's, our own Ruin and the Army's 
too : And fo much the rather, becai 11- I have ob- 
fervcd a dangerous Practice in fome Officers and 
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376 



The Parliamentary HISTORY 



An. 24 Car. I. Members only of the Army, to make Ufe of the 
whole Army's Name, without their Privity or, 
December. C.onfent, forcibly to drive on their own private 
pernicious Deftgns in the Houfe, and to fright and 
cudgel us into Votes (z), as feme fay we are cud- 
gelled into a Treaty, with the verj Name of the 
Army, without any Reafon at all ; and if that will 
not do the Feat, then they prefently mutiny and 
bring up the Army itfelf to or near the Houfes 
Doors, againft us, contrary to our exprefs Com- 
mands, as heretofore and now they have done, to 
force us to vote againft our Judgments, Confciences, 
Reafon, and the Public Safety, whatever they (hall 
dictate, be it never fo abfurd, difhonourable to 
ourfelves, or deftru&ive to the Kingdom ; and tho' 
the Army, and thofe who ufurp their Name, be 
not prefent at our Debates, (as they feldom are, 
though fome of them are Members) yet if they fuit 
pot with their fore -plotted Defigns, they will pre- 
fently cenfure them, and thofe that pafs them, 
without hearing or weighing of their, Reafons : 
And though they contend moft earneftly for Li- 
berty of Confcience for themfelves, and all others 
of their Confederacy out of the Houfe, and for a 
Liberty for their own Party to enter their particu- 
lar Proteilations and DiiTents in the Houfe to any 
Vote they like not (), yet they will admit no Li- 
berty of Confcience, nor Freedom of diffenting, 
to us, nor us to be Matters of our own Reafon, 
Votes or Difcretion in the Houfe itfelf, where we 
fhould have moft Freedom, as is evident by fundry 
magisterial, over-ruling, cenforious Paffages in their 
late Remonftrance, 'Nov. 2c() ; and if we vote 
not fully with them, they prefently take us for 
Apoftates and Violators of our Trull, fit not only 
to be feduded the Houfe for the prefent, but not to 
be intruded for the future (f) j to fuch an Height 
pf Infokncy are they grown : Therefore, for any 
Members to make their pleafmg or ditpleufing of 

the 

() For an Illuftration cf this Paflage, fee p. 1 14, in this yolutr.e. 
[a) Ibid. p. 234, 237. (i>) Ibid p. ZzS, ad Finem. 

1$) The Army's Declaration of November 29, p. a6S. 



of E N G L A N D. 377 

the Army, who thus abufe them, the fole or prin- An. 24 Ca r . I. 
cipal Reafon of their Aye or No, is fuch a Solecifm l6 4 8 - 
and Breach of Privilege as ought not now to be December 
named, much lefs prefled as a Reafon, without 
fome fevere Cenfure or Exclufion from the Houfe ; 
efpecially in this inftant Debate for the Settlement 
of our Peace, to which thofe who make a Trade of 
War will certainly be moft averfe, having little elfe 
to live on or fupport their prefent Greatnefs, if the 
Wars be ended. 

' Yea, but they further object, That if we dif- 
content the Army, by voting the King's Anfwers 
fatisfaclory, we are undone; they will all lay down 
their Arms, as one Commander of Eminency hath 
here openly told you he muft do, and ferve us no 
longer ; and then what will become of us and all 
our faithful Friends ? 

4 I anfvver, That I hope the Army will not be 
fo fullen as to defert or turn againft us, for voting 
what our Confciences and Judgments prompt us is 
moft for theirs, ours, and the Kingdom's Safety ; 
and that without hearing or fcanning our Debates : 
If they be, I (hall not much value the Protection 
of fuch unconftant, mutinous, and unreafonable 
Servants : and I doubt not but, if they defert us on 
fo flight a Ground, God hirnfelf and the whole 
Kingdom wjll ftand by us, who elfe, I fear, will 
both unanimoufly rife up againft us, to ours and 
the Army's Deduction ; And if the King and we 
fhall happily clofe upon this Treaty, I hope we (hull 
have no great Need of their future Service : How- 
ever, fiat Juftitia^ ruat Ccelum^ let us do our Duty 
and leave the Iflue to God. It is better for us tp 
perifh doing our own Duties, than to be juftly de- 
ftroycd by following other Men's Wills againli our 
Duties and Confluences too. He that thinks to 
fave himfdf, or the Kingdom, by ft'ch a fmtu' and 
unworthy Compliance, lh.il! be certain tolofc both 
himfelf and it in the Conclufton. 

4 However, bo,h the Arguments of Jifri-'fiug 

the Army, and the ill Con iequeiv-.es of it, . '- 

Jogether extraneous anJ impertinent to th- <<_ J- 

i tion. 



378 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. tion, and amount but to this Non fequitur^ The 
* 64g ' Army will not have us proceed further upon the 
December Treaty to fettle Peace; ergo, the King's Anfwers 
are unfatisfa6tory. What will all wife Men, what 
will the Kingdom, what will Scotland^ Ireland^ and 
our Friends abroad (whofe Eyes are all intent upon 
the Refult of the Treaty, and muft be fatisfied in 
the Reafons of our Breach upon it, left they all 
fall foul upon us) think of fuch abfurd Nonfenfcas 
this ? Had the Trpaty been only between the King 
and the Army, not him and the Houfes, this Rea- 
fon might have contented forne Men, without ex- 
preffing any Grounds of their Diflatisfa6tion, of 
which they think the Army might be more compe- 
tent Judges than the Parliament ; but the Treaty 
being only between the King and both Houfes, not 
the Army, that we, who are the only Parties to the 
Treaty, and Judges of the Satisfa&orinefs thereof, 
fttould fet afide our own Reafons, Confcienccs, 
and Judgments, and make the Army's abfolute pe- 
remptory Will the only principal Reafon of our 
Diflatisfaclorinefs with the King's Concefiions, 
(which I am confident not ten Men in the Army 
ever heard of, but by Report alone, and never fe- 
rioufly fcanned as we have done) is fuch an Abfur- 
dity as will render us for ever both ridiculous and 
odious to all our Friends and Foes, to the prefent, 
and to future Ages. For Shame, therefore, let us 
no more infift upon fuch Extravagancies. 

* Having anfwered thefe two Iron Arguments 
againft the Unfatisfa&orinefs of the King's An- 
fwers, and all others hitherto infifted on, I humbly 
conceive I have fully fatisfied every rational Man's 
Confcience, that the King hath granted us all we 
have demanded, that is really neceffary or condu- 
cing to the fpeedy Settlement of a lading and well- 
grounded Peace, and the future Security of our 
State, Kingdom, Church, Religion, againft all 
feared Danger from the King or any others ; and 
I fhall challenge, and put it to the Confcience of, 
any Gentleman diiTenting from me, whether he 



of E N G L A N D. 379 

can propound any one Thing more (except an Oath An *4 c. I. 
which is intended when all is concluded) efiential, l648 ' 
for the fuller and firmer fettling of our Laws, Li- December, 
berties, Privileges, Lives, Eftates, Religion, King- 
doms, Parliaments, Army, and fatisfying of all 
public Interefts, than what have been already pro- 
pounded, and the King completely granted in this 
Treaty. If then the King hath granted us every 
Thing ourfelves, during feven Years Advice and 
Confutation, could poffibly think of for our Secu- 
rity and Settlement, far more than we ourfelves de- 
manded in two or three former Treaties, and would 
have been glad with the Moiety of it wi'.hin thefe 
few Months, and ten thoufand Times more than 
we can gain by a Breach with the King upon fuch 
Difadvantages, ,vhy (hould we not all reft thankfully 
contented ; and blefs our God that he hath at laft 
inclined :he King's Heart to grant fo much, whe e- 
as heretofore he retufed to condefcend to the Tythe 
of that he hath granted uow ? Doubtlefs we can 
never anfwer fuch a peeviih abfurd Ingratitude ei- 
ther to Go/1 or Man ; and thofe Counties, Cities, 
and Boroughs, who have fcnt us hither in their 
Steads, will conn us little Thanks for refufmg Peace 
upon fuch honourable, beneficial, and fafe Concef- 
fions, as neither they nor we can ever hereafter hope 
for, if rejected now, upon no Grounds of Reafon, 
but only upon Peevifhnefs and Will. 

' If any object, as fome have done, That the A jf t }, e objec- 
Kir.g indeed hath granted <J1 we can defire ; yei tion of the King's 
he is fo perfidious 'in his Oaths and Promifos, as 
we have found by fad Experience in all his Reign, 
that we cannot truft hi.. ; and therefore all he hath 
granted us is to liule Purpofe : 

' 1 anlwer, Tnat it all he hath granted were ftill 
in his own Power !o diffoive or recall at Plea jure, 
this Argument v/ere material ; but fmce he hath 
put all our defircd Si'curii)' in o our H. nJs al >ne, 
and fuch as uurll-lves {hall appoint, and kit nothing 
unto his foie or whole 1 iout us, the Ob- 

jection is but Wv_ak, and recoils upon ouifelves, rhat 
we dare not truft ourfelves with our own S. 

If 



3 8 



Parliamentary HISTORY 



1648. 
v 

December. 



An. 24 Car. I. Jf a Shark come to borrow Money of a Ufurer, 
whofe Word and Bond he dares not take ; yet if 
he gives him a Pawn or Mortgage of his Lands in 
Hand, he will then truft him without any Scruple : 
The King hath given us fuch a fufficient P*wn, or 
Mortgage, and put it into our own Hands, there- 
fore we need not doubt him now. 

' Befides, if we cannot truft him for what he 
hath granted, it was a Mockery of him and the 
Kingdom to treat with him to grant it ; and, if fo, 
the Kingdom will fay they have as little Caufe 
hereafter to truft us, for fuch palpable Diflimulation, 
as the King. For my Part, I have feen fo much 
Experience in the World, that I dare truft none 
with my own or the Kingdom's Safety but God 
alone. Put not your Truft in Princes^ nor in any 
Son of Man^ In whom there is no Help. It is bet- 
ter to irujl in the Lord, than to put Confidence in 
Men or Princes (c}> have been my Maxims : And 
we have feen fuch ftrange Mutabilities and Perfi- 
dioufnefs in Men of all Sorts fmce our Troubles, 
that we can truft neither the King nor Prince, Ci- 
ty nor Country, this General nor that General, 
this Army nor thofe that were before it, nor yet 
ourfelves, who are jealous of one another, treache- 
rous one to another, diftruftful of all, and now 
diftrufted by all, ever fmce we began to confide in 
Men, and found out a new Generation of confiding 
Men. Let us begin to truft in God alone in the 
firft Place, and then we need not diftruft the King 
for Time to come any more than others, or our- 
felves, whofe dear-bought Experience of Breach of 
former Trufts and Promifes, will make him more 
careful of violating his prefent Conceffions for the 
future ; efpecially having put fuch Security into 
our own Hands to bind him to an exacl: Performance. 
* But it hath been objected by the General and 
Officers of the Army, in their late Remonftrance (d), 
and by fome who have fpoken in this Debate, who 
would teach the King before-hand how to elude 

and 

(c) Pfal. cxlvi, 3. cxviii. g, 9. 

(d) In '.his Volume, p. 194, 5, 6, 7. 



of E N G L A N D. 381 

and vacate all his Grants and Promifes, That <?//An. 24 Car. 
the King's ConceJJions are and will be void, becaufe y ' 4 
made by Durefs of Imprifonment, whil/1 under Re- December. 
Jiraint. 

' I anfwer, That the King, during all this Trea- 
ty, hath been in fuch a Condition of Honour, Free- 
dom, and Safety, and had fuch free Liberty of 
Confultation and Debate, upon his own earned 
Defire and his Party's too, as well as the Houfes, 
that he cannot, either with Honour or Juftice, void 
thefe Conceflions by any Pretext of Durefs ; efpe- 
cially fince he has denied fome Things, and had 
the fame Liberty not to have granted other Things, 
had he been pleafed not to grant them. Befides, 
the King is to confirm the whole Treaty by A6ls 
of Parliament, to which he is to give his Royal 
Aflent, and Oath too, when all is concluded, and 
that in a free Condition ; and then no Durefs can 
void them, no more than Magna Charta itfelf, firft 
gained by the Sword, and oft confirmed in Parlia- 
ment by our Kings, againft their Wills. In tht 
Year of our Lord 1223, the Barons demanding of 
King Henry III. the Confirmation of the Great 
^Charter and their Liberties, according to his Oath 
upon the Conclufion of the Peace with Lewis of 
France, William Briwere, one of his (evil) Counfel, 
anfwered, That the Liberties they demanded wera 
not to be obferved nor confirmed, becaufe they were 
forcibly extorted ; whereupon Words growing be- 
tween the Barons, the Archbimop of Canterbury^ 
and Briwere, the King clofed up the Strife with 
this honourable Anfwer, All of us have fworn to 
thefe Liberties^ and that which we have ajfented and 
fwyrn to, all of us are bound to obferve (e). We to 
thi> Day etijoy thefe Liberties, being confirmed by 
.Act of Parliament, and fworn to by our Kings, 
though forcibly extorted aL the firft. And fo may 
we much more enjoy the King's Conceflions, when 
turned into Acts, and fealed with a facred Oath, 
fuperadded to a Royal Aflcnt. 

'Mr. 

(e] Mattlno Part's, p. 305. Sftcd, p. 597. 
la our Firft Volume, p. 23. 



382 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. I. Mr. Speaker, I have now waded through the 

( T '^ 8 ' , whole Treaty, and given you the beft Reafons I 

December. can out ^ ever y Parcel of it, to prove the Satif- 

factorinefs of the King's Anfwers, and anfwered 

ail Objections hitherto made againft my Conclu- 

fion ; I fhall now, by your Patience and Leave, 

pro -eed a Step or two further, to evidence, by clear 

Demonftrations and Reafons, to your Confciences, 

h Fir/}, * That our clofmg with the King upon 

the^Khf^The thefe Conceflions, is the only, fpeedieft, btft, le- 

only wa> to .galleft, fafeft, and certaineft, Way to fettle a fii m and 

f f V u ^ Pea " lartin* Peace between the King, Parliament, and 
of the Nation. ... . , 

his three Kingdoms. 

Secondly, ' That the new Way to Peace and 
Settlement, propofed and profecuted by the Gene- 
ral, the Officers of the Army, and their Friends 
in the Houfe, is a moft defperate, difhonourable, 
unfafe Courfe ; and a certain Way to fpeedy Ruin 
both of our King, Parliaments, Army, City, 
Country, and three Kingdoms too ; yea, a meer 
Project of the Jefuits to deftroy the King; diflblve 
this prefent and all future Parliaments ; betray Ire- 
land to the Popifh Rebels ; fubvert our Religion, 
Reformation, Laws, Liberties, Kingdoms ; inf> 
troduce Popery, Tyranny, Slavery ; and make us 
a Prey to our foreign Enemies. And if I make this 
clearly appear to all your Confciences and Rea- 
fons, I befeech you all, lay your Hands upon your 
Hearts, and confider what you vote in this Debate, 
left you become inftrumental to the Jefuits, and 
accomplifh thefe their Defigns, inftead of fettling 
a fafe well-grounded Peace upon their new-fangled 
- Foundations of Liberty and Safety, but, indeed, of 

Slavery and Ruin. 

6 To begin with the firft Branch of the firft of 
thefe AiTertions, That our clofmg with the King 
upon thefe Conceflions, is the only Way to fettle 
a firm and lafting Peace between the King, the 
Parliament, and his three Kingdoms. Not to infift 
upon this general Maxim, That Treaties, in all 
Ages, have been the ufual and only Way to conclude 
and fettle Peace ami Unity between Kings and their 

People, 



of E N G L A N D. 

People, and all diflenting Kingdoms, States, Per- An. 
Cons ; and therefore this Treaty now is the only 
Way to our prefent Peace and Settlement, I {hull 
touch only upon Particulars. 

i/?, ' That yourfelves in this Houfe, and the 
Lords in their Houfe, have feverally and jointly 
voted and refolved over and over heretofore, and 
publifhed to all the World, from Time to Time, 
in fundry Declarations, Remonftrances, and other 
printed Papers fince the King's Departure from the 
Houfes, and the late Wars, That it has been, 
is, and always (hall be, their cordial Defire, and 
fincere unwearied Endeavour, to fettle a fpeedy, 
firm, and well-grounded Peace between his Ma- 
jefty, his People, and three Kingdoms ; and that 
this hath been the only End they have aimed at 
in all their Wars and Treaties with the King(&): 
That the King's Prefence with, and Refidence 
near, his Parliament, is of fo great Neceffity and 
Importance towards the Removal of our Diftrac- 
tions, Fears, Jealoufies ; the happy Beginning of 
Confidence and Contentment between the King 
and his People, and the Settlement and Preferva- 
tion of the Peace and Safety of the Kingdom, and 
King's Perfon, that they thought they had not dif- 
charged their Duties until they had declared and 
backed it with fome Reafons (/') : That thofe Per- 
fons who advifed his Majefty to abfent himfelf from 
his Parliament, are an Obftru6tion and Enemies to 
the Peace of this Kingdom, and juftly fufpecled 
to be Favourers of the Rebellion in Ireland: 
That the fending of Proportions, and a Treaty 
with the King, and a good Clofe with him and 
his Commiflioners thereupon, is the only Way to 
fettle a firm, f;)fr, ::id lading Peace : And this is 
the only Way and Means you have hitherto pur- 
fued to obtain fuch a Peace and Settlement (). 

2^/y, c The Parliament of Scotland, and their 
Commiflioners here employed, have voted and re- 
folved 

(h] Vol. X!T. p. i^, iq6. Vol. XIII. p.6 7 . Vol. XIV. p. 351. 
(/ Vol. X. p. 12 c, 346. 

(*} Vol. XII- p. 147, 174, ttfcj. Vol. XIII. p. 63. Vol. XV. 
p. 9 . 




1648. 



December. 



The Army was 
formerly for a 
Treaty. 



384. The Par Ha mentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. folved this the only Way and Means to fuch a 
Peace and Settlement, both for this Kingdom and 
their own too ; and have joined with us in all for-' 
mer Treaties, and promoted this (/). 

3<#y, The Generality of the People, and all 
the wifeft and moft cordial to the Public Intereft, 
both of the Parliament and Kingdom, have ap- 
proved and defired a Treaty and Clofe with the 
King, as the only Means of Peace and Settlement, 
as is evident by their frequent and multiplied Peti- 
tions to both Houfes. 

jthly, < The King himfelf, and all his Party, 
when tired out with the Miferies of War, have de- 
fired and embraced a Treaty, as the only Means 
to clofe our bleeding Wounds, and make a firm 
Union between the King, Parliament, and three 
Kingdoms (m). 

$thly y ' The General, Officers, and Council of 
the Army themfelves, when in their right Senfes, 
and not intoxicated with Self-conceit and Jefuitical 
Principles, have publickly declared, That Compli- 
ance by a Treaty with the King, and Reftitution of 
him to a Condition of Honour, Freedom, and Safe- 
ty, was the only Way to a lafting Peace and Settle- 
ment ; yea, the Grandees of the Army were fo 
over- forward to comply, treat, and clofe with him 
upon Terms more difhonourable, and Icfs fafe, 
than thefe we are now a clofmg with him in this 
Treaty, that when they falfly impeached the Ele- 
ven Members of the Houfe of Commons, in July t 
1647 (H) for holding fecret Intelligence and Cor- 
refpondence only with him, without Confent of the 
Houfe, themfelves at that very Inftant, without 
and a^ainft Confent of the Houfes, were fecretly 
treating and complying with him upon Propofals 
framed by themfelves ; and perfuaded the King to 
reject the Houfes Propofitions, lent to his Majefty 
to Hampton-Court, to treat upon thofe they had 
tendered to him privately, without the Houfes Pri- 
vity, as more advantageous to him and his Party 
than the Parliament's ; declaring to all the World, 

That 
(/) Vol. XIV, p- 347- (w) VoI.XlI.p. 153,4. () Vol, XVI.p.;o. 



^/ENGLAND. 385 

That they were as cordial to the King, as defirous An. 24. Car. r 
to bring him up to London^ and to reftore him to 
a Condition of Honour, Freedom, and Safety, and 
more favourable to Delinquents in mitigating their 
Fines and Punifhments, than the Houfes (<?). All 
which they are not alhamed to acknowledge in 
their Remonftrance of the 20th of laft Month, 
yet with this deteftable Brand upon themfelves(/>), 
That their Compliances with him ivere but negative. 
Secondly, What -we declared of Moderation was but 
hypothetical^ with careful Caution and a Saving for 
the Public Interejl^ according to our then Under/land- 
ing of /'/, &c. Tety however , in that Degree of 
Compliance admitted in that Kind, we find Matter of 
Acknowledgment before the Lord concerning our Error ', 
Frailty , Unbelief \ and carnal Councils therein ; and 
we blefs him that preferved us from worfe. If their 
Compliance and Treaty with the King, &c. was 
but hypothetical, (as I fear this very Remonftrance 
and their Actings fince all are, or at leaft-wife 
Jefuitical) I hope our Treaty fhall be real, and not 
in their Power to make it hypocritical ; as they 
have attempted, by endeavouring to force us, by 
this Remonftrance and their fubfequent Advance 
to London, to break it off; to render us odious to 
our King and Kingdoms, to God, and all good 
Men, and tranflate the Odium of it from them- 
felves to us. And becaufe themfelves may difcover 
their own Apoftacy from their former Principles, 
which they would falfly father upon us, and how 
juftifiable and advantageous to the Kingdom our 
clofing with the King upon thefe Proportions are 
before all the World, be pleafed to take Notice of 
thefe following Paflages in their own Letters, De- 
clarations, and Remonftrances, made upon mature 
Advice a Year before this Treaty. 

' In the humble Remonftrance from his Excel- 
lency and the Army under his Command, prefent- 
ed to the Commiffioners at St. Albans^ June 23, 

VOL. XVIII. B b 1647, 

(o) Putney Pro;efft. Anitnadiierjiont upon the Arrry* s Remenftriince. 
The King's Anfwer to the Fropolitions fru to h,m, 
Caurt, September 9, 1647, in our 
(f) In Uiis Volume, p. zo;. 



3 86 he Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. 1. 1647 (q], they print, Whereas there have been fcan- 
dalous Informations prefented to the Houfes, and in- 
ditfiricufly publijhed In Print, importing as if his 
Majejly were kept as Prifoner amongjl us, barba- 
roujly and' uncivilly ufed ; we cannot tut declare that 
the fame, and all other Sugge/fions of that Sort, are 
mojl falfe, fiandalous, and abfolutely contrary, not 
only to sur declared Deferes, but alfo to our Prin- 
t/plef ; which are moft clearly far a general Right and 
juji Freedom to all : And therefore, upon this Occa- 
Jion, we ca-nnot but declare particularly., "That we de- 
fire the fame for the King, and others of his Party, 
fo far as can conjijl with common Right and Freedom, 
and ^vith the Security of the fame for the future : And 
we do further clearly con fifs, we do not fee how there 
tan be any Peace to the Kingdom, firm or lafting, 
without a due Confederation of, and Provijion for r 
the Rights, Ijhiiet, and Immunity of his Majejlys 
Royal Family, and his late Partakers : And herein 
we think thai tender and equitable Dealing, as fup- 
pojing their Caufe had been ours, and a Spi? it of com- 
mon Love and Jujtice, diffufing itfelf to the Goad and 
Prefervation af all, will make up the rnoji glorious 
Conquejl over their Hearts, if God in his Mercy fee 
it good, to make them and the whole People of the Land 
Lifting Friends. And in the Reprefentation of the 
Army, June 14, 1647 (r), there are the like Ex- 
preflions of their Judgment in relation to the King 
and his Party too. 

4 In a Letter of Sir Thomas Fairfax's to both 
Houfes of Parliament, giving an Account of fome 
Traniactions between his Majefty and the Army, 
dated from Reading, July 8, 1647, there is this 
Paflage, which he there declares to be the general 
Senfe of all or moft Part of the Officers in the Ar- 
my (s) ; If i general, we humbly conceive that, to avoid 
all Harjhnefs, and afford all kind Ufagc to his Ma- 
jcjly's Per/on in Things conjj/ting with the Peace and 
Safety of the Kingdom, is the mojl chrijlian, ho- 
nourable, and prudent Way : And in all Things we 

think, 

. t ( ? ), Vol. XVI. p. j 5 . (,) Vol. XVI. p.- lo-fc. 

{fl Vol..XV.p. 45i. 



of E N C L A N D. 387 

think ) that tender , equitable-) and moderate Dealing, An. 24. Car. I 
both towards his Majefty and his Royal Family, and 
late Party, fo far as may J? and with the Safety of the 
Kingdom, and Security to our common Rights and Li- 
berties, is the inojl hopeful Courfe to take away the 
Seeds of War, or future Feuds amongji us, for Po- 
Jlerity, and to procure a lajling Peace and a Govern- 
ment in this dijt raffed Nation. 

* Since this, the Officers and the Army^ in their 
Propofals, AuguJI i, 1647 (/), for the Settlement 
a firm Peace, have this for one, That his Majef- 
ty's Perfon, Queen, and Royal Iffite, may be reftorej. 
to a Condition of Safety, Honour, and Freedom in 
this Nation, without Diminution of their perfonal 
Rights, or further Limitation to the Exercife of the 
Regal Power, than according to the Particulars 
aforegoing. 

6 Thefe Propofals of the Army were fo pleafing 
to his Majefty, that, in his Anfwer to the Propo- 
litions prefented to him at Hampton -Court, Sep^ 
tember 9, 1647 (u], by the Commiffioners of both 
Houfes and of the Kingdom of Scotland; he refufed 
to grant the Propofitions by them tendered, as being 
dcjlruli<ve to many principal Interejls of the Army, 
and of all thofe whofe Affections concurred with them. 
And he gave this further Anfwer to them, That 
his Majejly having feen the Prcpofals of the Army 
to the CommiJ/ioners from his two Houfes of Parlia- 
ment refiding with them, and with them to be treated 
en, in order to the clearing and fc 'curing the Rights 
and Liberties of the Kingdom, as to the fettling of a 
juft and lajling Peace ; to which Prcpcfals, as he con- 
ceives, his two Houfes not to be Strangers, fo he be- 
lieves they will think with him, that they more conduce 
to the Satisfaction of all Interejls, and may be a fitter 
Foundation fur a lajling Peace, than the Propofitions 
which at this Time are tendered to him : He therefore 
propounds, as the bejl Way, in his 'Judgment, in order 
to Pence, that his two Houfes ^uould infiantly take into 
Confideration thofe Propofals, upon which there may 
h a Ptrfonal Treaty with his Majfjly, andfuch other 
B b a Propofals 

(t] Vol, XVI. p. ng. 00 1M, 9S- 




HISTORY 

Propofah as bis Majefly jhall make ; hoping that the 
fetid Propofah may be fo moderated in the faid Trea- 
eaiber. ty as * rer ^ er them the more capable of his Ma- 
jefly's full Conceffions ; wherein he refolves to give 
full Satisfaction to his People^ for uuhatfoever jhall 
concern the fettling of the P rot eft ant Profeffion^ ivith 
Liberty to tender Consciences, and the fecuring of the 
Laws, Liiert : es, and Properties of all his Subjefts^ 
and the .juji Privileges, of Parliament for the fu- 
ture, &c. /: 'wbfch Treaty bis Majejly Kill be pleaf- 
ed, if it be thought fit, that the Commijjioners from 
the Army, vjhsjt the Propofah are, may likewtfe be 
ach:<ited. 

* Lo, here we have the General, Officers, and 
Army itfeif, To zealous for a Perfonal Treaty with 
the King, for Settlement of this Kingdom's Peace, 
and the carrying on of their own interefts, that 
thercfclves.draw up Proposals for a Treaty with 
him, without the Houfes Privity ; yea, prevail 
with him to hi'y afid^ the Koufes Prcpofitions to 
treat upr.n th-ifs, as more advantageous to him and 
his, and k-fs beneficial to the Kingdom's Intereft: 
In which Treaty he defires, That Commiflioners 
from the Army, whofe the Propofals were, might 
likewife be admitted ; and yet thofe Zealots for a 
Treaty then, are moft furious to break off our Trea- 
ty now, even by open Force and Violence, almoft 
upon the very Clofe, though they never made any 
Oppofition againft it, dining all its Agitation (w) ^ 
perchance to bring on another Treaty with the 
King upon their own Propofals, wherein the King 
and they will be the only Treaters, and the Houfes 
but idle Spectators ; to rob them of the Honour and 
Benefit expected by our prefent Treaty, and of fet- 
tling the Kingdom's Peace on fo good Terms for 
the Public Intc-reft. 

' In fine ; the General, and Army under his 
Command, in their Remonftrance of Augufi 18, 
1647, approved and printed by Order of the Houfe 
of Peers, do thus exprefs their Readinefs and De- 
fire for the Parliament's doling with the King up- 
on 
() From July 30, to Ncvcmler zo. 



of E.N G L A N D. 389 

on gocd Grounds, and his bringing up to L,ondon\h-n. 74 Car. j. 
(though now they cry out for nothing but Juftice ^ * 6 4 g - 
and Execution to be done upon him, as thei'- capital December. 
Enemy (#) : Far our Parts, we Jhall rejoice as much 
as any to fee the King brought back to his Parliament ; 
and that not fo much In Place, as in /Jffeftion and 
Agreement, on fucb found Terms and Grounds as 
may rerd:r both him and the Kingdom fafe- quiet^ 
and happy ; and Jh all be as ready as tbev to brin* ins 
Majefly to London, when his being trier e may be 
likely to produce (not greater Dijlurbances or Dif- 
traffions, but) a Peace indeed ; and that fuch as 
may not, with the Shipwreck of the Public Intere/? 9 
le Jhaped and moulded only to th^ private Advan- 
tages of a particular Party or Faflion ; but bottomed 
chiefly on Grounds of common and public Welfare and 
Security. 

' The General, Officers, and Army, therefore, 
being fo zealous for a Treaty and Clofe with the 
King, in all thefe feveral Rcmo.nftrances, Papers, 
and Propofals, as the only hopeful Way of fettling 
and fecuring the Kingdom's Peace, cannot, with-? 
out the hlgheft Injury, and moft deteftable Jug- 
ling, Hypocrify, and Apoftacy from their own En- 
gagements and Principles, wherewith they do now 
falfely charge the Houfe, diflike our prefent Pro- 
ceedings in the fclf-fame Way, upon his Majefty's 
Conceffions in this Treaty ; which, by all thefe 
particular Refolutions, and the Army's own Ac- 
knowledgments, is the only Way of Peace and 
Settlement. 

' Next, as this is the only, fo it is the fpeedieft 
Way of all others. If we now accept of thefe Con- 
ceffions, the moft whereof I have turned into Bills(v) 
already, and fhall turn all the reft into Bills by our 
next Sitting, I fee no Reafon but we may, in one 
B b 3 Fort- 

(*) Vol. xv r. p. 262. 

(y) In Confirmation of thi< Afll-rtion we find, in the C-j^mom 
Journah of the 17:!! of Novembe-, That a Comm ,cise be:n.z .ippjint- 
ed to meet upon a Bill, For ju'lifyingtbe Proceedings of tht Parlia- 
ment in the late War, and for Jed.fi *g all Oaths, Dctlitratnnt, Pro- 
clamations, and other Pncc'dings tigain/i it to bt i>oid, the Care of 
this Bulinels WAS more particularly referred to Mr. Prjnnt. 



39$ ST& Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. Z4 Cr.r. I. Fortnight, at leaft by the firft of January next, 
have fully fettled and concluded all Things in Dif- 
ference between the King and us, to the general 
Content and Safety of all honeft Men; and fo end 
the old and begin the new Year with Peace : 
Whereas, if we now break off, and let go all the 
King hath granted, I fee no End of our Wars and 
Miferies, nor any probable Means of Peace and, 
Settlement in many Years at leaft, if ever in this 
or the fucceeding Generation. And the fpeedieft 
Remedy in this Cafe' (efpecially confidering the 
Kingdom is fo far exhaufted, that we know nei- 
ther how to pay our public Debts, our Fleet, or 
Army their prefent Arrears, much lefs their future) 
muft needs be the beft, and be preferred before all 
others that will require more "Time and Expence, 
and be more hazardous and contingent in the 
Event. 

' And as this is the fpeedieft, fo the beft, legal- 
left, fafeft, and certajneft Way of all others. 

i/?, ' There is no Danger nor Hazard at all in it, 
nor any Expence of Money or Effufion of Blood ; 
'tis but accept, and then confirm by Acts and Oaths, 
and the Work is prefently done. If we think of 
Settlement in any other Way, we muft fight again, 
and that will be both coftly and hazardous ; and, 
\yhen all is done, we muft treat again, perchance 
upon worfe Terms, elfe there will be no Peace 
nor Settlement. 

idly^ * This is the Way we have ever formerly 
pitched upon, the Way all Parties have confented 
to and approved, but thofe alone who dcfire nei- 
ther Peace nor Settlement j therefore, beft, fafeft, 
and durableft. 

3^ 4 It is the legalleft, fafeft, certaineft; becaufe 
a Peace and Settlement, by Ats of Parliament, is 
the higheft Security to Englifotnen under Heaven ; to 
which King, ILords, Commons, and in them the 
whole Kingdom, confent, and will all acquiefce in 
what is done, without Queftion or future Difpute. 
What Peace foever is fettled otherwife, either by 
-a bare Order or Ordinance of the Houfes, cr by 
5 the 



cf E N G L A N D. 391 

the Sword and Power alone, will neither be fure, An. 24 Car. I. 
fafe, nor lading, no longer than maintained by the t * 6 * 8 ' 
Sword; and every Man will be fure to quellion December, 
and unfettle all again upon the Jeaft Advantage gi- 
ven. The higheft Security that England ever had 
was Magna Charta, and Charts de Fore/la j thefe 
were gained by the Sword, but not held by it. 

4 That which hath kept and perpetuated thefe 
fmce their making, was thofe Acts of Parliament 
which confirmed them : Thefe are our only Se- 
curity for whatever we enjoy, which will furvive 
all other we can think of. Nullum viokntum eft 
dluturnum ; whereas Privileges kept and held by 
public Acts will laft for ever, and be entailed to us 
and our Pofterities, with Peace and Happinefs at- 
tending them. This was the Way of fettling Peace 
between Kings and Subjects heretofore, in Hen- 
ry III. Edward II. Richard II. and Henry Vlth's 
Reigns ; and an A& of Pacification. and Oblivion 
was the only fafe and ufual Way the Parliaments 
both of England and Scotland lately fixed on, to 
fettle a firm and lafting Peace between both Nati- 
ons and Kingdoms : All other Settlements will be 
but like an Ulcer fkinned over, which will foon. 
break out again, with greater Pain and Danger 
than before. 

Secondly^ < For the new Way propofed by the TJj Way pro- 
Army for a firm Peace and Settlement ; it is cer- po fed by the Ar- 
tainly the moft defperate, dishonourable, danger- m Y> m ft def P e ' 

j j n. n. - L /rui L j rate, oiihoaour-, 

ous, and deftruchve, that can pombly be imagined j able dangcrout, 
and fuch as we can neither in Honour, Juftice, and definitive. 
Confcience, nor Prudence embrace. To exa- 
mine it a little by Parts. 

' The firit Way to Peace and Settlement pro- 
pounded by them, is prefently to break off the 
Treaty ; and that, contrary to our public Faith to 
the King and Kingdom, yea, to our own Votes, 
before the Treaty was fully ended : This is the 
Drift of their whole Remonftrance j which, as it 
will totally, if not finally, deprive us of the Fruit 
and Benefit of all the King's Conceilions in the 
Treaty, (all which are, by mutual A^. cement, no 
B -b 4 Way 



392 Tbe Parliamentary HISTORY 

A n . 24 Car. 1. Way obligatory to either P;\rty in any Particular 
16481 y unlefs all be agreed) being all that we can poffibly 
'December. think of for our Safety and Advantage, and more 
than any Nation under Heaven yet enjoyed ; fo it 
will inevitably caft us upon prefent Ways of new 
Diftradlions, Confufions, and Civil Wars, now we 
are quite exhaufted ; and end at laft in our abfolute 
Deihuclion, inftead of a well-grounded Peace; 
and thofc Bldfings we may forthwith enjoy for the 
very accepting, without further Charge or Trouble. 
But if God, beyond our Hopes, fhould, after any 
new Embroilments, give us Peace, yet it muft be 
vpon a new Treaty ; and that, perchance, upon far 
worfe Terms than now are offered : Therefore it 
muft needs be dangerous to reject a fafe Way to 
follow a hazardous or deftructive one. 

A* the Depofing ' The next Thing propofed by the Army, in 

and Executing their Remonftrance, for a fpeedy Peace and Settle- 

rhe fving. ment, is the bringing of the King to fpeedy Juftice 

for all his Treafons and Biood-flbed in the late 

Wars, and then to depofe and execute him as the 

greateft capital Malefactor in the Kingdom (/). 

' This certainly is a very dangerous and unlikely 
\Vay to Peace and Settlement : For, 

i/f, < Smiting the Shepherd is the Way to fatter, 
not unite, the Sheep (/). The flaying of the Kin; or 
General in the Field, fcatters and diflblves the Ar- 
my, not fecures them. To cut ofF an aching Head, 
is the Way to deftroy, not cure, a difeafed Body. 
Such Kind of State Policy may deftroy or difturb, 
but never fettle us in perfect Peace. The Prince, 
his next Heir, the Queen, the Duke of York-) all his 
Children, and Allies both at home and abroad, will 
certainly meditate Revenge; and all Kings in Chri- 
ftendom will affift them, even for their own Inte- 
reit and Safety, left it {hould become a Precedent 
for themfelves. And will this then fecure, or be a 
likely Way to Peace or Settlement ? 

idly, ' The greateft Part of the Members in 
both Houfes, the Lords, Gentlemen, and alJ Sorts 

of 

(^ Tn this Vol. p. 227. et ff<j. 
(I) Zecb. xiii. 7 . i& S t, xxij. 17. 



of ENGLAND. 

of People dvoushout the Kingdom, the whole An 
Kingdoms of Scotland and Ireland, (who have as 
great an Intereft in the King's Pcrfon, being their 
lawful King, as we have ; and are obliged, by Al- 
legiance and Covenant, to protect his Perfon and 
Crown from Violence) will unanimoufly, as one 
Man, oppoie and proteft againft it; and, by Force 
of Arms, endeavour to bring thofe to Execution 
who (hall prefume to advife or attempt to depofc 
or dertroy the King, in any Kind, contrary to their 
Allegiance and Solemn Covenant: Yea, all Prote- 
ftant Realms, Churches, States in foreign Parts 
wi>I abhor both the Fail, and adjudge it contrary to 
their Principles and Religion, as that which may 
irritate Popifa Kings and Princes to take up Arms 
to ruin them, left they fhould fall into the like Je- 
fuitical Practices. And can this then be a fafe or 
fpeedy Way to Peace and Settlement, efpecially 
when we know not what Government fhall fuc- 
ceed upon it, and can expect nothing but bloody 
Confequences from fuch a bloody Jefuitical Ad- 
vice ? 

3^/j, ' I never ready of any Peace or Settlement 
in any Kingdom where King-killing was pra&ifed 
or approved. When the Roman Armies began once 
to kill their Emperors, and cut off their Heads (), 
they were fcarce ever free from Civil Wars. One 
Army fet up one Emperor, another Army another, 
and the Senate a third, who always warrud till they 
had cut off one anothers Heads. Moft of thofe 
Emperors had very ftiort Reigns, few of them above 
a Year or two, and fome of them fcarce two 
Months, but moft of them untimely Deaths. In 
Sclavonia and Norway , where they had a Law that 
he that flew a Tyrant-King (hould lucceed him in 
the Throne, they had almoft every Year a nevf 
King, and perpetual Wars and Difcords ; not one 
of all their Kings, for above an hundred Years to- 
gether, ever came to a natural Death, but wa? 
murdered as a Tyrant, and fucceeded by a worfe 

and 

(b) Eutrofiui, Grimflon't Imperial Hiftory. 




Parliamentary H i s T o R Y 

g reater Tyrant, as StfAtf Grammaticus (/) and 



, 

tion, for Solomon's Sins, they had never any Peac 
Settlement, but perpetual Wars with one King 



_ 

December. ' And, in the Sacred Story itfelf, it is very ob- 

fervable, that after the ten Tribes revolted from 
Rehoboam, though by God's Juftice and Approba- 

Peace or 
dom 

or another, or between themfelves (I) ; their Kings, 
or moft of them, were all Tyrants and Idolaters ; 
and, by the juft Hand of God, for the moft Part tu- 
multuoufly {lain and murdered, one of and by ano- 
ther, who fucceded them ; he that murdered his 
Predeceflbr being ufually flain by his Succefibr, or 
his Predeceflbr's Sons, Servants, or by the People of 
the Land, in a tumultuous Way. In 2. Kings, xv. 
we read in that one Chapter of no lefs than four of 
thofe Kings flain, one by another : And as for the 
People under thefe Kings, they had never any 
Reft, Peace, Settlement, or Freedom ; but lived 
under the greateft Mifery and OpprefTion that ever 
any Subjects under Heaven did, as the Sacred Hif- 
tory records. This King-killing certainly can be 
then no probable Way at all to Peace, Safety, 
Settlement, or Freedom ; but the Jefuits Policy to 
deprive us eternally of all thefe, and of God and 
Religion to boot, as it did the ten Tribes heretofore. 
^thly, ' This Way to Peace and Settlement is 
tHre&ly contrary to all the former Engagements, 
Oaths, and feveral Petitions, Declarations, Re- 
monftrances, Proteftations, and Profeflioos of both 
Houfes of Parliament to the King, Kingdom, 
People; wherein we have always protefted and 
held forth unto them, both before and fmce the 
Wars (OT), That we will preferve and proteft the 
King's Perfonfrom Danger ; fupport his Royal Eft ate 
with Honour and Plenty at home, with Power and 
Reputation abroad ; and, by our loyal Affections, Ac- 
tions, and Advice, lay a fare and lajling Founda- 
tion of the Greatnefs and Profperity of his Majefty, 

and 

(!) Hifloria Dannica lib. viii, p. 120. 

(k) Rerun Anglicarum Script ores t lib.iii. cap. 6 

(/) ji Citron, x, xi, xii. a Kings, i. to xxv. 

(m) Jn our Tenth and fubfequent Volume?, faffiia, 



of E N G L A N D. 395 

and Lis lloyal Poflerity in future Times : That we are An - *4 Car - 
Jlill refolved to keep ourfelves within the Bounds of t * ' 
Faithfulnefs ' and Allegiance to his Sacred Perfon and December. 
Crown : That we will, with our Lives, Fortunes, 
Eftates, and with the laft Drop of our Blood, endea- 
vour to fupport his Majcjly, and his jujl Sovereignty 
find Power -over us, and to prevent all Dangers to 
his Majefty's Perfon : Tlwt we took up Arms as well 
for Defence of his Majef.y, to protecJ his Perfon , as 
the Kingdom and Parliament, without any Intent to 
hurt or injure his Majejlys Perfon or Power ; pro- 
f effing, in the Prejence of Almighty God, That we 
Wsuld receive him with all Honour ', yield him all due 
Obedience and Subjection, and faithfully endeavour to 
fecure his Perfon and Eft ate from all Danger ; and, 
to the uttcrmoft of our Power, to procure and ejlabli/h 
to him and his People all the Elcffings of a glorious and 
happy Reign, which both Houjes feveral Times pro- 
fcj/ed and remonflrated to the World : That the Al- 
legation that the Army raifed by the Parliament in- 
tended to murder and depofe the King, was fuch a Scan- 
dal as any that profefjed the Name of a Chriftian could 
not have fo little Charity as to raife, efpecially when 
they mufl needs know the Protejlation taken by every 
Member of both Houfes ; whereby they promife, in the 
Prefence of Almighty God, to defend his Majejlys 
Perfon, and all their Addrefjes and Petitions to him 
exprefs the fame Thing : That they never fuffered it to 
enter into their Thoughts to depofe the King, abhorring 
the very Thought of it, much more the Intent : That 
they never Buffered the Words Depofing the King, 
to go out of their Mouths, nor the Thing to enter into 
their Thoughts : That they reft aflured, both God and 
Man will abominate that monjlrous and mojl injurious 
Charge, laid upon the Reprefentative Body of this 
whole Kingdom by the malignant Party again/} the 
King, as dcjigning not only the Ruin of his Majejly's 
Perfon, but of Monarchy itfelf ; the Authors of which 
malicious horrid Scandal they profefs to make the In- 
Jlances of their exemplary Jujlice^ fo foon as they Jhall 
be difcevered, 

Now, 



396 *Fhe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. c Now for us, after all tliefe multiplied, reitcra- 
1648. tec j Proteftations, Promifes, Engagements, Decla- 
" rations, Remonftrances, to all the World, from the 
Beginning of the Differences and Wars till now, to 
think or talk of depofmg and deftroying the King, 
and altering the Government, as the only fafe and 
fpeedy Way to Peace and Settlement, as the Army- 
Remonftrants prefcribe, would be fuch a moft de- 
teftable Breach of Public Faith, fuch a moft perfi- 
dious, treacherous, unrighteous, and wicked Acl, 
as not only God, Angels, and good Men, but the 
very worft of Turks and Devils would abhor ; and 
therefore it is a Miracle to me, that thefe precious 
Saints fhould thus impudently, before all the World, 
propofe it to the Houfe, and force you to purfue 
it, to ftain your Reputation, and make you exe- 
crable before God and Men. 

5^>/y, * The very Oath of Allegiance, which 
every one of us hath taken upon our firft Admif- 
Jlon to be Members, engageth us not only not to 
offer any Violence or Hurt to his Majefty's Per- 
fbn, State, or Government; but, in pofitive Terms, 
To bear Faith and true Allegiance to his Majejly^ 
bis Heirs and Succejfirs ; and him and them to de- 
fend to the uttermojl of our Power ', again/} all Con- 
fpiracies and Attempts whatsoever, which Jhall be 
made againjl his or their Perfons, Crown, or Dignity ; 
and from our Hearts to abhor , detefl and abjure^ as 
impious and heretical^ this Jefuitical and Popijh 
Doftrine, That Princes excommunicated or deprived 
by the Pope, (as it feems the King is now, for ex- 
tirpating Epifcopacy, Popery, Mafs, and Prelacy, 
out of his Dominions by his prefent Conceflions, 
without any Poflibility or Hopes of replanting) 
may be depofed or murdered by their Subjects, or any 
other whstfoever ; which Jefuitical Contrivance and 
Practices, as our whole State and Parliament, in the 
Statutes of 3 Jac. cap. i, 4, 5. 35 Eliz. cap. I, 2, 
and other A&s refolve, is the only Way to un- 
fettle, ruin, and fubvert, not to fettle and eftablifh, 
the Peace and Government of our Realm. And 
both Houfes, fince this Parliament, have, by a fo- 

lemu 



of E N G L A N D. 397 

lernn Proteftation firft, and by a folemn League An. 14. car. 
and Covenant fmce, with Hands lifted up to the 
Moft High God, engaged both themfelves and the 
three Kingdoms of England, Scotland, and Ireland, 
by a moft facred and ferious Vow and Proteftation, 
purpofely made and prefcribed by them, For the 
Honour and Happinefs of the King and his Pojle- 
rity, and the true Public Liberty, Safety, and Peace 
of the three Kingdoms, (as the Title and Preface 
declare) fencer ely, really, and conjlantly to endeavour, 
with their EJlates and Lives, to preferve and defend 
the King's Maje fly's P erf on and Authority, in the 
Prefcrvation and Defence of the true Religion and 
Liberties of the Kingdom, (which he hath now 
fully and actually performed by his Conceffions in 
this Treaty) that the World may bear IVitnefs with 
cur Confciences of our Loyalty ; and that we have 
no Thoughts or Intentions to diminijh his Majejty's 
jujt Power or Greatnefs : And Jhall alfo, with all 
Faithfulness, endeavour the Difcovery of all fuch as 
Jhall be Incendiaries or evil Injlruments, by dividing 
the King from his People, that they may be brought 
to fpeedy Trial, and receive condign Punijhment : 
And Jhall not fujfer themfelves, direttly or indireft- 
ly, by whatfoever Combination or Terror, to be with- 
drawn or make Defection from this Covenant ; but 
Jhall, all the Days of their Lives, really and con- 
Jlantly continue therein again/I all Oppofetion, and pro- 
mote the fame againft all Lets and Impediments what- 
foever. And this Covenant we all made in the Pre- 
fence of Almighty God, the Searcher of all Hearts, 
with a real Intention to perform the fame, as we Jhall 
anfwer at that great Day, when the Secrets of all 
Hearts Jhall be difclofed. 

' Now, how we, who are Members of this 
Houfe, or any who are Subjects of our three King- 
doms, or Officers and Soldiers in the Army, who 
have taken this Oath of Allegiance, Proteftation, 
League or Covenant, or any of them, (as fome have 
done all of them, or two of them at leaft, fun- 
dry Times over) 'can, without the higheft Perjury 
to God, Treachery to the King, Perfjdioufnefs to 

th 



39 S The Parliamentary H r s T o R V 

B. 24 Car. i. tne Kingdom, Infamy to the World, Scandal to 
164 ' the Proteftant Religion, and eternal Difhonour to 

December. the Parliament and themfelves, atheiftically break 
through or elude all thofe facred and religious Tyes 
upon our Souls, by a fpeedy public dethroning and 
decolling of the King, and difinheriting his Pofte- 
rity, as the Army-Remonftrants advife ; and that in 
the open View of the World and that all -feeing 
God, to whom we have thus appealed and fworn, 
(by thofe Jefuitical Equivocations or Diftin&ions, 
of which the Army's Remonftrance is full, or 
Profeffions of our damnable Hypocrify in the break- 
ing of them) tranfcends my Understanding. 

' And for thofe who ftyle themfelves Saints, and 
charge as one of the higheft Crimes againft the 
King, his frequent Breach of Oaths and Promifes, 
totranfcend him and the Jefuits in this very Sin, is 
fuch a Monfter of Impiety, as, I conceive, could ne- 
ver have entered into the Hearts of Infidels, or the 
worft of Men or Devils. And to a& this under a 
Pretext to preferve and fettle the Peace of the King- 
dom, is fuch a Solecifm, as militates point-blank 
againft the very Words and Scope of our Protestation 
and Solemn League and Covenant ; which crof- 
feth not the Oaths of Supremacy and Allegiance, but 
more Jirongly engageth all Men to preferve and de- 
fend the King's Perfon and Authority, in the Pre- 
fervation and Defence of the true Religion and Li" 
berties of the Kingdom, as the Aflembly of Divines 
and both Houfes affirm in their Exhortation to take 
the Covenant (r) ; which prefcribes this as the only 
Means of fecuring and prefervirg Peace in all the 
three Kingdoms, to preferve the Perfon and Ho- 
nour of the King, his Crown snd Dignity, from 
any fuch Violence and Invafionas is ncwfuggefted 
by the Army ; all of which do engage us, and 
all the three Kingdoms, with our Lives and For- 
tunes, really and conftantly, to oppofe, againft all 
Lets and Impediments, &c. and to bring thofe to 
condign Punifhment, as Incendiaries and evil In- 
ftruments, who fuggeft it : So as if the Army will 

proceed 
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of E N G L A N D. 399 

proceed in this Jefu ideal deftru&ive Way of Trea- An. 24 Car. 1. 
foil and Ruin, we, and all the three Kingdoms, l648 ' 
are folemnly engaged, with our Eftates and Lives, 
unanimoufly to oppofe and bring them to Juftice. 

< And is this then the Way to public Peace and 
Settlement, to raife another new War, to murder 
one another in a new Quarrel, wherein the Ar- 
my and their Adherents muft be the fole Malig- 
nants and Enemies we muft fight with ? No, 
verily, but the high Way to the Kingdom's and 
Army's Ruin, whofe Commiffions we are obliged 
to revoke, whofe Contributions we muft in Con- 
fcience withdraw, and whofe Power we muft with 
our own Lives refift, unlefs we will be perjured, 
and guilty of Breach of Covenant in the higheft 
Degree, if they perfift in thefe Anti-covenant De- 
mands. 

6//;/y, ' Both Houfes having held a Perfonal 
Treaty with the King fo lately, and he having 
granted us in that Treaty whatever we have or can 
demand for the Safety and Prefervation of our Re- 
ligion, Laws, and Liberties ; and both Houfes en- 
gaged themfelves by Vote, in Anfwer to the King's 
Propofitions, to reftore him to a Condition of Ho- 
nour, Freedom, and Safety, according to the Laws 
of the Realm, (which was the Army's own Pro- 
pofals in his Behalf in Augujl 1647) we can neither 
in Honour, Honefty, Juftice, or Confcience, were 
he ten thoufand Times worfe than the Army would 
render him, depofe and bring him to Execution ; 
it being againft all the Rules of Juftice and Ho- 
nour, between two profefled Enemies, who had 
no Relation one to another, much more between 
King and Subjects in a Civil War, and a Thing 
without Precedent in any Age. 

* To this the Army Remonftrance anfwers (*), 
That this would be thought an unreasonable and un- 
befeeming Demand in a Perfonal Treaty, between 
Perfonijlanding both free and in equal Balance of 
Power ; but not when one Party is wholly fubduedy 
captivated, imprifoned, and in the other's Power. 

But 
W la this Volume, 



400 *[he Parliamentary H i s T o R Y 

An. 24. Car. I. B U (- tn j s certainly is a Difference fpun with a Je- 
t , fuitical Thread ; for to treat with any King in our 

December. Power, or out of it, on Articles of Peace, upon 
thefe Terms, That if he confent to them, we will 
reftore him to his Throne with Honour, Freedom, 
and Safety ; and when he hath yielded us our De- 
mands, then to depofe him and cut off his Head, is 
the higheft Breach of Faith, Truth, Honour, and 
Juftice th'at can be imagined ; and thofe who dare 
juftify fuch perfidious and unchriftian Dealing, de- 
ferve rather the Style of Turks and equivocating 
Jefuits than pious Saints. 

ftkly, ' There is no Precedent in Scripture that 
the General Aflembly, or Sanhedrim of the Jews 
or IfraeliteS) did ever judicially imprifon, depofe, 
or execute any one of the Kings of Jtulnh or Jf- 
rael, though many of them were the grofleft Ido- 
laters and wickedeft Princes under Heaven, who 
filed much innocent Blood, and opprefled the 
People fundry Ways. We know that David him- 
felf committed Adultery with the Wife of Uriah, ' 
a faithful Servant and Soldier, whilft he was with 
his General Joab in the Field, and then afterwards 
caufed him to be treacheroufly flain ; yet neither 
the Aflembly of the Elders, nor Joab and the Ar- 
pny under him, did impeach or crave Juftice againft 
him for thefe Sins, though he lived impenitently in 
them. And when he numbered the People after- 
wards, for which Sin 70,000 of his Subjects loft 
their Lives, yet he was not arraigned or depofed 
for it; and God (who is fovereignly juft, tho' David 
was the principal Malefactor in this Cafe, if not the 
fole ; and thereupon, when he faw the Angel that 
ifmote the People, cried out, Z/0, 1 have finned and 
done -wickedly ; but thefe Sheep, what have they done ? 
Let thy Hand be againft me and my Father's Houfe (^), 
fpared him and his Houfhold, though the Princi- 
pals, and puniftied the People, only, with Death 
for this Sin of his. After him Solomon^ his Son, 
a Man eminent for Wifdom and Piety at firft, apo- 
flatized to moft grofs IdoJatry of all Sorts, to pleafe 

his 

{%) a Sam, xxiv. 17. 



of E N G L A N D. 401 

hia idolatrous Wives, and became a great Oppref- An, 24. Car. I. 

for of his People, making their Burdens very hea- ' 6 * 8 - 

vy, yet his Subjects or Soldiers did neither impeach December ^ 
or depofe him for it ; and though he was the prin- 
cipal Offender, yet God fpared him for David's 
Sake, in not taking the ten Tribes from him for 
thcfe Sins during his Life, though he rent them 
from his Son Reboboarn, who was ;>t moft but accef- 
fory, for his Father's Sins, not his own(/>). True 
it is, fome of the idolatrous Kings of Ifrael, by the 
juft avenging Hand of God, were flain by private 
Conspiracies and popular Tumults, in an illegal 
Way ; but not depofed nor arraigned by their San- 
hedrims or general Congregations ; and thofe who 
flew them were fometimes flain by others who 
afpired to the Crown, or by the People of the Land, 
or by their Children who fucceeded them, and 
came to untimely tragical Ends. 

8^/y, ' Though there be fome ^Precedents of 
Popifti States and Parliaments depofing their Popiih 
Kings and Emperors at home, and in foreign Parts, 
in an extraordinary V/ay, by Power of an armed 
Party ; yet there is no Precedent of any one Pro- 
teltant Kingdom or State, that did ever yet judi- 
cially depofe or bring to Execution any of their 
Kings or Princes, though never fo bad, whether 
Proteftants or Papifts : And the Proteftants in 
France, though fome of their Kings, when they 
had inverted them in their Thrones, became Apo- 
ftates to Popery, and Perfecutors of their People, , 
albeit they refitted them by Force of Arms in the 
Field to preferve their Lives, did never once at- 
tempt to pull them from their Thrones, or bring 
their Perlbns unto Juftice : And 1 hope our Pro- 
teftant Parliament will never make the firft Prece- 
dent in this Kind, nor ftain their Honour or Reli- 
gion with the Blood of a Proteftant King, againit 
fo many Oaths, Proteftations, Covenants, Decla- 
rations, and Remonftrances made and published by 
them to the contrary. 

XVIII. C c 9.'% 

(i>) i Kir.gs, xij zad xii. 



4C2 Tfo farKatrienMry HISTORY 

An. *4 Car. I. qthly, ' For the Precedents of Edward II. and 
l64 *' , Richard II. in Times of Popery, they were rather 
December forcible Refignations by Power of an Army, than 
judicial Deprivations, neither of them being ever 
legally arraigned and brought to Trial in Parlia- 
ment. And Mortimer, who had the chief Hand 
in depofing King Edward II. was, in the Parlia- 
ment of 4 Edward III. impeached, condemned, 
and executed as a Traitor, and guilty of High 
Treafon, for murdering Edward II. at Berkeley* 
Caftle, after he was depofed ; and Sir Simon de Be- 
rcford, together with 'Thomas de Gitrney and Wil- 
liam de Oclc, were adjudged Traitors for afiifting 
him therein, one of them executed, and great Re- 
wards promifed to the Apprehenders of the other 
two (f). And as for Richard II. though he was 
depofed after Henry IV. was crowned by Pretence 
in Parliament, yet this Depofal was after his Refig- 
nation only, not before it; and without any formal 
Trial or Arraignment, or any capital Judgment of 
Death againft him (g], for which I find no Prece- 
dent in any Parliament of England, Scotland, France, 
nor yet in Denmark itfelf, though an elective King- 
dom; who, tho' they juftly depofed Cbrijliern II. 
for his moft abominable Tyrannies and Cruelties, 
yet they never adjudged or put him to Death, but 
only reftrained him as a Prifoner. I {hall only add 
this, that tho' the ele&ive Kingdoms of Hungary, 
Bohemia, Poland, Denmark, and Sweden have, in 
their Parliaments and Diets, depofed fundry of their 
Kings for their Wickednefs and Tyranny, yet they 
never judicially condemned any one of them to 
Death, though Papifts : And for a Proteftant Par- 
liament, (to pleafe an Army only, adled by Jefuits 
in this Particular, to render both Parliament, Army, 
and our Religion too, for ever execrable through- 
out the World, and fet all Men's Pens and Hands 
againft them to their Ruin) to begin fuch a bloody 
Precedent as this, upon a moft falfe Pretext of fet- 
tling 

(f) In our Firft Volume, p. 199, 10209. 
t) Hid. p. 501. Vol. II. p. I. &Jej. 



^/ENGLAND. 403 

tlihg Peace, contrary to the exprcfs Command of An > 2 4 Car * 
God himfelf, who commands Chriitians to pray for ^ ' 4 ' j 
Kings, and all in Authority ^ that they rhiy live a quiet December. 
and peaceable Life under them in all Godtinrfs and 
Honejly (>), not to depofe or cut oft" their Heads as 
the only Way to Peace and Settlement, will not 
only be fcandal >us but monftrous. 

4 The next Thing the Army propofe for a pre- Disinheriting and 
fcnt Peace and Settlement (/), is The executing ^ putting to Death 
the Prince if he come not over upon Summons at ajhort \^ a j cs arx^Duke 
Day, and give not Satisfaction to the Houfes ; or elfe of York. 
to declare him and the Duke of York, if they appear 
not upon Swnmons, to be uncapable of any Truft or 
Government in this Kingdom or any Dominions there- 
unto belonging, and thence to Jiand exiled for ever as 
Enemies and Traitors ; and to die without Mercy, if * ~ 
ever taken or found therein. A Jeluitical inevitable 
Way to Civil Wars and Ruin : For the King be- 
ing depofed and cut off, the Prince, no doubt, is 
next Heir to the Crown, both by the Common 
Law and the Statute of i Jacobi, cap. j. to which, 
I doubt, a Vote or Ordinance of both Houfes on- 
ly will be no fuch legal Bar in any Lawyer's or 
wife Man's Judgment, but that he will claim his 
Right ; and the Generality of the Kingdom, at 
leaft ten thoufand to one, proclaim and embrace 
him for thc-ir lawful King, and aflift him with their 
Lives and Fortunes both to regain and retain his 
Right ; being bound by their Oath of Supremacy 
and Allegiance, and their Solemn League and Co- 
venant, fo to do. And muft not this of Neceflity 
beget a prefent lading War, inflcad of a fpccdy 
fettled Peace ? Undoubtedly it will. 

4 But confider farther, that the Prince is not 
only Heir Apparent to tho Crown of England, but , 
of Scotland and Ireland too ; and though we reje6t 
him, yet undoubtedly Scotland and Ireland will rea- 
dily embrace him as their lawful King ; notwith- 
ftanding any Votes of ours ; and will both unani- 
C c 2 mouily 

(*) iT/w. it. i, a. 

(/j In ihi Volume, p. 228, 9. 



404 *ft>* Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. I.mouflv aflift him with their Lives and Fortunes to 
1648. recover his Right to the Crown of England : And 
December ' tn l e two Kingdoms falling off wholly from us, 
and proclaiming War aga.inft us, and joining with 
that potent Party here, which certainly will appear 
in his Behalf, out of a natural Inclination to the 
right undoubted Heir, or Hopes of Favour and 
Preferment, fmce plures Solem crientem quam oc~ 
cidentem adwantur^ and with all his Friends and 
Allies Forces from abroad ; whether this will not 
be an unavoidable Occafion, not only of a prefent 
War, but of certain Deftruclion and Defolation to 
this poor Kingdom, and more efpecially to the 
Army and their Adherents in this defperate Advice, 
who muft ftand or fall upon their own Bottom, 
without the leaft Aid or Contribution from any 
other, I defire them, and all others who have ei- 
ther Eyes or Brains iu their Heads, moft ferioufly 
to confider. 

* But that which makes me moft of all deleft 
this defperate Advice, is this, That it is the only 
Way that can be thought upon to accomplifh the 
Pope's and Jefuits Defigns to fct up Popery, and 
fubvert the Proteftant Religion, and Profeflbrs of 
it, in all our three Kingdoms, and in all foreign 
Realms beyond the Seas. For if this reforming 
Parliament, which hath pretended fo much to the 
Extirpation of Popery, fhall fo far play the Popes 
and Jefuits, the undoubted Contrivers of this Ar- 
my's new Model of our Peace and Settlement, as 
to depofe and behead the King his Father, and for 
ever difmherit him of the Crown, and bring him 
as a Traitor to die without Mercy, if he come hi- 
ther, it will fo far provoke and exafperate him and 
the Duke, (being both young and of generous Spi- 
rits, not thoroughly grounded in our Religion, and 
under the Queen's Tuition, and in the Power of 
this Popifh Party abroad ; who will aggravate to the 
utmoft thefe high Affronts and Injuries put upon 
them, and on whofe Protection they will be in 
this Cafe neceflitated to caft themfelves) that there 
is great Fear and Probability they will immcdiate- 



of E N G L A N D. 405 

Jy renounce fuch a bloody and deteftable Religion, An. 24 c.ir. I. 
as (hall inftigate us to fuch horrid Actions and 
Councils ; and abominate all the Profeflbrs of it, 
fo as totally to abandon them, and turn Roman 
Catholicks in good earned, and then match them- 
felves to great potent Popifh Alliances ; and, by 
their Purfes, Forces, and Afllftance, and of the 
Pope's and all his Catholick Sons in foreign Parts, 
(for the Advancement of the Catholick Caufe, and 
of the popifti, malignant, and difcontented Parties 
in England^ Scotland, and Ireland^ which will quef- 
tionlcfs receive and afiift the Prince as their Sove- 
reign Lord and King) invade our poor impoverim- 
ed, divided, and dillrefTed Kingdom with fuch a 
Power as, in all human Probability, would fpeedily 
over-run and deftroy this mutinous Army and the 
-Houfes too; put them, with all their Adherents, to 
the Sword, without Mercy or Quarter, and difin- 
herit them and their Heirs for ever, to revenge their 
Father's Blood, and their own Difmherifon of the 
Crown. 

' Then Popery and Prelacy will both return 
with greater Authority., Power, and Approbation 
than ever; over-fpread our whole three Kingdoms, 
and extirpate our Religion, and the Profellbrs of 
jt,- as the mod anti-monarchical, treacherous, per- 
fidious, and bloody Mifcreants under Heaven j and 
excite all other foreign States and Kingdoms to do 
the like, to prevent the Springing up of a new 
Generation of treacherous, king-killing, ftate-fub- 
verting Agitators, and hypocritical and perfidious 
Army-Saints j and engage all Proteftant King- 
doms, Churches, and States, for their own Secu- 
rity and Vindication, to difclaim and declare againft 
us. 

* This, queftionlefs, will be the fad incvitabl* 
IfTue of this Jefuitical Advice, if ever the Houfes 
or Army (hall put it into atual Execution, and not 
fpeedily prevent it ; it being long fince fore-plotted 
by the Jefuits, as I {hall prove anon, at th~ BJ- 
of the late War againft the Scots. 

C c 3 'But 



406 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car, I. * Ji u t if the Prince and Duke be fet afide, I 
I6 4 8> would gladly learn of thefe Statifrs who and what 
^Decemb r King they would fet up ? Not any of the King's 
Pofterity, certainly, fmce they difmherit two at a 
Blow ; and the Bl >od being corrupted by the 
Whichmuft ren- King's and their Att unders, no other Heir can in.- 
ier the Kingdom herjt it by Dcfcent ; it muft efcheat to the Houfes 
c. or Army's Diipofal, and become no Kingdom at 

all but an elective one, if any : And is this the 
next Way to Peace and Settlement ? If fo, I have 
certainly loft my Reafon and Senfcs too. No, it 
will be a Seminary of lading Wars, of which few 
elective Kingdoms are long free ; every new Elcc*- 
tion producing commcnly a new War, where there 
is no Pretence of an Hereditary Succeflion, much 
more where a right Heir is forcibly and unjuftly 
difmherited, I (hall give you but one Inftancc, 
though I could name you divers, and that is a me- 
morable one at home in our own Kingdom. 

* King Henry I. having one only Daughter, 
Maud, to referve the Crown to her after his Death, 
caufed her to be crowned, and made all the Pre- 
lates and Nobles fwear to receive her a their 
Queen and Princefs after his JDeceafe (<?) : But fhe 
marrying afterwards to the Emperor, and being 
out of the Realm when King Henry died, the 
Archbifliop of Canterbury^ with the reft of the Pre- 
lates and Nobles, contrary to their Oath and 
Agreement, elected Stephen Earl of Blots for their 
King, and put by Maud^ the rijjht Heir; Stephen 
taking an Oath to grant and confirm fuch Laws and 
Liberties, for the Kingdom's Peace and Settlement, 
.as they propounded to him before his Coronation : 
A very likely Means to {ettle Peace and Profperity 
as they ir.iapjned. But was the Event anfwer- 
able ? No, verily ; this curfed Perjury and Policy 
brought all the chief Contrivers of it to great Ca- 
Jarrity and miferable Ends, and ingeiidered a bloo- 
dy Civil War in the Bowels of this Kingdom, 
which continued no lefs than feyeirteen Years to,- 
gether, \vith interchangeable Succefles, till the 

whole 

(a] Muttitvj Parit, Speed, Demi! in the Life of Kirg Styloi. 



of ENGLAND. 407 

whole Kingdom was laid wafte and defolate; moft An, 24 Car. 
Houfes, Towns, and Villages burnt to the Ground ; 1 6 4 8 - 
their Gardens and Orchards quite deftroyed; their December. 
Monies and Eftates exhaufted and plundered ; their 
Cattle and Flocks confumed an.l eaten up ; their 
Fields over-grown with Weeds inflead of Corn ; 
moft of the People devoured by the Sword, Fa- 
mine, and Peftilence ; and eleven hundred Caftles, 
Holds, and Garrifons erected, which were no 
other but Dens of Thieves and Plunderers. Such 
was the Peace and Settlement this Policy produced. 
At laft both Parties, weary of the Wars, out of 
pure Necefiity came to a Perfonal Treaty ; and, in, 
Conclufion, made this Agreement, That Stephen, 
having no Iflue of his Body, (hould enjoy the 
Crown during his Life ; and Henry, Son and Heir 
to Maud, and next Heir alfo to Stephen, {hould 
fucceed him after his Death ; and, in fome fort, 
officiate with him in the Kingdom's Government 
during his Life : And fo thefe long-lafting Wars 
concluded, after which there were at leaft eleven 
hundred Catties demoliftied by Order of Parlia- 
ment, that had been creeled during thefe Wars to 
the Country's utter Undoing. But if we difinherit 
the Prince and Duke, for ought I difcern, if they 
fuddenly recover not their Poileflion of the Crown 
of England, after one feven Years of War already 
elapfed, we may have feventeen Years more, and 
feventeen after that again ; and be reduced to a 
more miferable Condition than our Anceftors were 
in King Stephen's Days ; and that on thefe Grounds : 
firjl, ' The Conteft then was only between 
two Competitors for this one Kingdom, who had 
no other Kingdoms of their own to fide with them : 
But the Prince and Duke, being fucceflively Heirs 
as well to the Crowns of Scotland and Ireland, as 
England, will have their Aid and Afliftance, and 
of their foreign Friends too, to carry on the Wars 
till they have got Pofleffion of the Crown of Eng- 
land upon better Terms than ever t!u>v are like to 
enjoy it, if we accept of the King's Conccflions ; 
which we can never expect from them, if we de- 
C c 4 pofe 



408 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. I. p O fe and kj'l the King, and difmherit and banifh 

16^.8. ^ thcm for Traitors. 

Pecember. Secondly^ * Stephen^ the actual King;, then had 

no Ifiue at all, and Henry was next Heir to the 
Crown, both to Maud and him; fo as both Titles 
meeting in him, the Controverfy and Wars muft 
needs ceafe : But if we fhall now fet up a new 
King by Election, either of the King's Line or 
otherwife, as long as there is either an elective 
King, or hereditary, to exclude this Prince or Duke, 
pr either of their Heirs, to whom the Inheritance 
of the Crown belongs of Right, we can neither 
hope for, nor expect, Peace or Settlement in this 
Kingdom; as the bloody and long-lived Wars be- 
twecn the two Houfes of Lancajler and York will 
inform us, which never ended till they were both 
united in King Henry VII. 

Tie Difiblution * The Army's next Propofal for fettling Peace 

ParllLentand K 3S baJ 3S 7 f the form . er > W ' Z ( Z ^ T/ ' $"*? 
a new Method (KJJolving of this prcfcnt Parliament ; which, if not 

of electing the prefently confented to, for ought I difcern by their 
frtuw. j a fl. ) ec l ar ation, they are refolved to diilolve it by 

open Violence on the Houfes, v/hich they threaten. 
A Tempeft certainly of the Jefuits raifing, to blow 
down this Parliament, as they would have blown 
up that of 3 Jacob? with Gunpowder. But is this 
a Way to Safety and Settlement, to diflblve the 
only vifible Means of both ? If the King, Prince, 
Duke, and Parliament, be all diffblved and quite 
]aid afide, what Means or Hopes at all of Peace, of 
Safety, of Settlement, can any Man in his right 
Senfes rationally fee or imagine ? Is the Overtuin- 
it\<y of the very Foundations and Pillars of our 
Church and Kingdom the beft and fafeft Way to 
fettle and prcferve them ? Is it not the only certain 
Way to fubvert and ruin them ? Such Ways of 
Peace and Settlement as thefe are fitter for Bedlam 
than a Parliament Houfe, 

* Yea, but they have one infallible Way more, 
to which all the reft are but preparatory, to fettle 
Peace and Safety in. our Kingdoms, which they 

idolize, 
(} In this Vojutr.e, p. 232, ct fa. 



of ENGLAND. 409 

idolize almoft, viz (c), A new Representative , or An. 34 Car. I. 
mock Parliament, to be immediately fubfcribed to t l6 * 8 ' 
and fet up in Poft-hafte ; conftituted neither of December. 
King nor Lords, (the Brats of Tyranny and the 
Norman Conqueft, as fome of themfelves pretend, 
as this Rcprcfentative is of the Army) nor yet of 
Knights, Citizens, and BurgefTes duly elected; but 
of a felecled Company of politic Mechanics, prag- 
matical Levellers, and Statefmen of the General 
Council of the Army, (as they ftyle themfelves, 
by what Commiffion I know not) who have ufurped 
the whole Power both of King, Parliament, AC- 
fembly, and all Courts of Juftice, before their Re- 
prefentative be fettled, as a true Pattern of it, 
which they are to imitate. A meer whimfical 
Utopia and Babel of Confufion, invented by the 
Jefuits to pleafe the vulgar Rabble, and ftir them 
up to Mutinies againft King, Lords, Commons, 
Gentlemen, and their Superiors of all Ranks ; that 
they alone may poflefs and fway the Reins of Go- 
vernment, Magiftracy, and Miniftry, to which 
they have now prepared their tumultuous Spirits. 
JVIuch might be faid againft it (d), but I (hall con- 
tradl my (elf, becaufe nothing can be fo much as 
probably pretended for it. 

I/?, * It is a new Jefuitical Popifh Gunpowder 
Treafon with a Witnefs, which blows up and de- 
frays at once the King, Prince, Dake, Lords, 
Knights of Shires, Citizens, Burgcfles, this pre- 
fent and all future Parliaments, and noblcft, an- 
cienteft Cities and Boroughs of England. Is not 
this a blefied Invention to fettle Peace and Safety ? 

2^//x, * It blows up both our Magiftracy, Mi- 
niftry, Laws, Liberties, Judges, and Courts of 
Juftice at one Crack ; and breaks them all in 
Pieces, to raife up this new Babel out of all their 
Ruins. And is not this a blefled new Invention of 
Jefuits and Saints to fettle Peace ? 

3^/X, * It blows up all our Oaths of Supremacy 
and Allegiance, Proteftation, Solemn League and 
Covenant ; all former numerous Declarations, Re- 

monftranccs, 

(<) In thi Volume, p. 174, 5; 252, 3,4. 
(d) bee Mr. Aj*rfi Rcaioni jj;ainfl it. 



1%e Parliamentary HISTORY 

monftrances, Votes and Refolutions of one or both 
Houfes of Parliament, not to alter the prefent Form 
December. f Government by King) Lords, Commons, and other 
ordinary Magiflrates and MiniJIers of public Ju/iice ; 
or let l-'cje the Golden Reins of Government to B/af- 
phemies, Herefies, Errors, Libertimfm, Profancnefe, 
Schifm, and all Sorts of Religions (^). It unfettles 
all Things, to fettle that which is worfe than no- 
thing. And is this the Way to Safety, Tranquil- 
lity, or Settlement ? 

4//->/y, ' It inforceth a Subfcription more unjuft, 
unreafonable, illegal, tyrannical, and penal, than 
ever the Bifhops or Pope invented ; invents and 
feis up the very worft of Monopolies, a Monopoly 
of Electors, of Elections, and of Reprefentatives 
elected ; ingrofling all Men's ancient Rights, Li- 
berties, Privileges of Election, without Confent or 
Title, into the Hands of thofe who never had a 
Right unto them, the People ; who are no Free- 
holders, no free BurgefTes, free Citizens, or Men 
capable of Votes by Law ; and thefe People no 
other than the Army themfelves, and fome of their 
levelling Confederates, who muft poflefs, judge, 
rule, ufurp the Rights and Privileges of the whole 
Kingdom, in point of electing Parliament Mem- 
bers, without Charter or Title (f). A curfed Mo- 
nopoly, which will difcontent all Men who are 
thus injurioufly deprived of their Riohts, and pro- 
duce nought elfe but infinite Animofitics, Factions, 
Fractions, and Tumults throughout the Kingdom ; 
and difcontent all wife, all honeft Men, who will 
rather die than not oppofe it unto Death, as carry- 
ing the Death and Funeral of all Peace, Settle- 
ment, Parliaments, and the Kingdom in its Bowels. 
And is this a fit Tool to piece and unite our fhat- 
tered Kingdom, and fettle Peace amongft us ? 

5//J/K, ' It no way extends to Ireland or our 
Iflands, but to England only ; it will require many 

Years 

(e} Vol. XII. p. 396. Vol. XIV. p. 347. 

if) The Army's Remonjlratice, in this Volume, p. 131, 3, 4. 

The Agreement of the People, firft printed in 1647; but after- 
^lards new modelled, and efpoufed by the Army. This remarkable 
Piece will appear under the Proceedings of the zoth of January. 



of E N G L A N D. 411 

Years Time and Trial to fettle and fecure its own An. 24 Car. I. 

Being, Privileges, and Power, and gain a general 

Obedience to its new-erecled Sovereignty ; fo that December. ' 

our Church and State will be funk and drowned, 

and Ireland inevitably loft, before this Ark will or 

can be prepared for their Safety. 

6tb/y, * This new Reprefentative in this new 
Remonrtrance is, in Tcrminis, nought elfe but the 
very Agreement of the People, prelented to the 
Houfe by the Agitator?, accompanied with fome 
Jefuits, on the Qth of November, 1647 ; then, and in 
that very Month, twice, by two exprefs Votes (), 
upon folemn Debate, and an Ordinance of both 
Houfes in December following, refolved to be de- 
frrudlive to the Being of Parliaments, and to the 
Fundamental Government of the Kingdom j a 
lignal Brand of Difability and Imprifonment im- 
pofed on the Contrivers and Prefenters of it, and 
then condemned by the General and his Council 
of War, who (hot one White to Death for abet- 
ting it 3 of which more anon : Therefore it feems 
a Miracle to me that they fhould now be fo 
vertiginous, rafh, and audacious, as to tender this 
to the Houfe again with fuch Poft-hafte and Vio- 
lence, as the readieft, fafeft, and fpccdicft Courfe 
to fettle Peace and Safety, and fet afide the only 
Means of Settlement, the Treaty. O the Inccn- 
ftzmcy and ftrange Intoxications of thefe new Saints . 
and Statifts, who would make the Houfes as in- 
conftant as themfelves ! 

Mr. Speaker, 

' Since then I have clearly manifefted to you, T f, e ^^..'5 
that all thefe Propofals of Peace and Settlement in Pn pofals a meer 
the Army's late Remonftrancc, are all and every J eruitical Con * 

c , J n r> T/-'-I/"' tnvance to over. 

of them moit apparent Precipices, Jefuitical Con- turn t h c w hol 
trivances, and Labyrinths of fpcedy, imminent, Conftitution. 
\mavoidable, Ruin and Confufion to our King, 
Prince, Kingdoms, Magiftracy, Miniftry, Church, 
Religion, Laws, Liberties, Government, the pre- 

fent 

(a] Thefe Refolutiorw arc given at large in thc fubfequent Part of 
this Speech. 



412 fie Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. f en t and all fucceeding Parliaments, and the Army 
_^ too, it muft needs be the very Extremity of Mad- 

to ^ et that fp ee( ty, &&, and f" re Wa 7 to 
certain Peace, Security, and Settlement I have pro- 
pounded, by accepting of the King's Conceflions, 
to catch at fuch a falfe deceitful Shadow of Settle- 
ment as this, which will ingulf us in endlefs Wars 
and Miferies. It is a Rule in Policy and Divinity, 
Ex duobus Mails minimum ellgendwn ; But of thefe, 
one being a moft certain deftru<5tive Evil, and the 
other a certain Good and Advantage of the higheft 
Nature, it can admit of no Deliberation which of 
them to embrace j and fo much the rather, if we 
fadly confider our deplorable and almoft defperatc 
Condition, both at home and abroad, pertinent to 
the Point in hand. 

* We are all weary of a long and coftly War, 
and yet God hath fo infatuated many, that tho' 
in Words they dcfire, yet in Deeds they reject, all 
Ways of Peace, and caft them out of their Hands 
when put into them ; as if they delighted to have 
our Wars fpun out, like Amaleck's, from Genera- 
tion to Generation. We are unable any longer 
to maintain a War, and yet are unwilling to give it 
over. But I befeech you now ferioufly to confider 
into what great Straits and Difficulties you are al- 
ready brought, and how the true State of your 
Affairs ftands in relation to your Forces and Friends, 
both at home and abroad. 

* There are many Thoufands of Rcformadoes, 
that have formerly ferved you in your Wars, who 
lie daily clamouring at your Doors for Arrears, 
complaining they are ready to ftarve, and fome of 
them to rot in Prifon ; defiring but fome inconii- 
derable Sum to fatisfy their prefent Necefikies, and 
you return them for Anfwer, That you are unable 
to raife it ; and, after many Debates upon their 
general Ordinance, you cannot, in divers Months, 
pitch upon any probable Means to fecure their 
Arrears, amounting, as is conceived, to above 
20,000 /. The Arrears alledged to be due to the 
Army, whp now take free Quarter, and eat up 

the 



^ENGLAND. 413 

the Countries where they lie, amount to above An. 24 Car. f. 
300,000 /. and how to raife Money to difcharge I648> _^ 
this Debt, or fo much as to difband the Supernu- December, 
meraries, and reduce the Army into their Winter- ' 
Quarters, hath put you to a Stand for many Weeks, 
and as yet you know not how to do it ; fo as free 
Quarter muft (till continue to ruin us on the one 
Hand, and your Debts and Arrears be daily mul- 
tiplied to undo us on the other. Your Navy is 
now coming into Harbour, and your Mariners ex- 
pect a prefent confiderable Sum, amounting to ma- 
ny Thoufands, to pay them off; and you have not 
yet one Penny in your Treafury to fatisfy their Ar- 
rears, and can pitch upon no Way to raife any 
prefent Monies, but only by the Earl of Arundell's 
Compofition, amounting in all but to 6ooo/. and 
the Moiety of it not to be paid till three Months 
End at leaft. What your other Debts of the Na- 
vy are, and how many thoufand Pounds you owe 
to Mariners, Matters, and Tradefmen, the Com- 
mittee of the Navy can beft inform you. Your 
Debts to your Artificers, Waggoners, and fuch 
who have advanced Monies upon the Public Faith, 
amount to two or three Millions at leaft : Befides, 
your Debts to PlymoutJ) and other Garrifons are 
fo great, that they are all ready to mutiny and dif- 
band for Want of Pay. Your Debts to the Sol- 
diers and Officers in Ireland are vaft ; and, if fpee- 
dy and large Supplies of Men, Provifions, and Mo- 
ney arrive not there within one Month, Col. Jones^ 
and your other Officers there, profefs the whole 
Kingdom will be utterly loft ; and you, for ought 
1 find, have no poflible Means to fupply them with 
cither. 

' If then your Debts are already fo great to 
Reformadoes, Tradefmen, the Army, Navy, Gar- 
jifons, and thofe who have lent you Money, that 
you know not how to fatisfy any one of them : If 
you have not Money to pay your Army or Na\y 
at the prefent, nor to maintain them for the future, 
why do you now refufc that Peace which is ten- 
dered you upon fuch great Advantages j and chufe 

a War, 



4*4 ^ Je -Parliamentary HISTORY" 

An. 24 Car. I. a War, which you know not how to maintain, and 
1648. miu't needs break you and the Kingdoms Backs 

' - v , in a few Months more ? Your Credit is quite loft 

December. ,11 n r>i /"> i <~< 

and broken in all Places, in City, and Country ; 

You cannot now borrow fo much as io,oco/ 
for ought I know, upon any fudden Occafion, 
were it to fave the Kingdom : Your Breaches of 
Faith and Security heretofore, and Clafhes with the 
City, have made you almoft Bankrupts, if not al- 
together. Gchljmitbs-Hall, the Excife, Camdcn- 
Houfe, and the CuJJam-l-loiife^ are already charged 
with more Debts than are likely to be paid in many 
Years ; Compofitions are almoft at a Stand or End ; 
Sequeftrations generally difpofed of to each parti- 
cular County, or other Ufes ; Bifhops Lands en- 
gaged for far more than they are really worth j 
you have nothing of your own or the Publick's left 
to raife either prefent Monies, or Credit whereon 
to borrow them ; bcfides, the City, Country, an4 
whole Kingdom are now quite exhaufted, and al- 
moft as poor as naked Job was ; man}' Counties 
of the Kingdom are fo impoverifhed and exhaufted 
with the laft Wars, efpecially the four Northern 
Shires next to Scotland^ that, as their Knights and 
Burgefles aflure you, they are fo far unable to pay 
any Taxes, that they already ftarve and perifli in 
moft Places for Want of Food, and are Petitioners 
to you for fome Reparation towards their great Lof- 
fes, and prefent Support to keep them from ftarv- 
ino; ; the rich aflbciated Counties have been fo nar- 
rated and undone by the laft Summer's War, that 
they are grown poor, unable to lend or contribute 
to you any more Force or Affiftance; the exceflive 
Dearth of Corn and Provifions the laft Year ; the 
great Dcftrudtion of Corn by unfeafonable Weather 
this prefent Year, which makes that which is 
wholefome exceeding dear; the extraordinary Rot 
among Sheep, and Murrain among Cattle (which 
(hould raife Monies) in all Counties ; the general 
Scarcity and Decay of Trade by Land, of Mer- 
chandize by Sea, and apparent Probability of their 
decaying every Day more and more, by reafon of 
i the 



of ENGLAND. 415 

the revolted Ships and Irijh Men of War ; the Se- An, t 4 car. l. 
queftrations of the malignant, the Plunderings and * 6 * 8 ' 
Lofies of the well-aflected, Nobility and Gentry, *~ jv cem ber 
have fo impoverifhed all Sorts of Men (but the 
Soldiers and Army, and fome few Treafurers and 
Officers) that they know not ho^v to live or fubfift 
almoft, much lefs to lend or contribute to main- 
tain fuch a numerous Army by Land and Sea, and 
fupply Ireland's preffing Neceffities. If you can- 
not tell how to pay your prefent Debts, what Folly 
is it to augment them for the future ? If you can- 
not pay your Army or Navy now, how will you 
be able to do it hereafter ? 

' If then you will have no Peace with the King 
upon the Treaty, but break it off, and keep up a 
War and Army ftill without Colour of Reafon, in 
this your impoverifhed and exhaufted Condition, 
then mark the Consequence : Your Forces being not 
duly paid, will live upon free Quarter ftill, and that 
will undo the Country and make them defperate ; 
and when they have eaten out all the Poor, then 
they will mutiny, and fall on all that are Rich ; 
put them to prefent Fines and Ranfoms at their 
Pleafure, eat them out of Houfe and Home, (hare 
their Eftates and Offices, which many of them 
already profefs to be theirs by Conqueftj and then 
the longeft Sword will be the only true Judge and 
Meafure of all Men's Properties, and Divider of 
their Eftates, as well in this as former Ages > of 
which we already begirv to feel fome fad Experi- 
ments. And as the Soldier on the one Hand, fo 
the penurious poor People in every Place, for Want 
of Work and Employment, and Bread to put into 
their Mouths, encouraged by the Soldiers uncon- 
trouled Infolence, will fall to plunder and level 
all rich Men on the other Side. And if the Ar- 
my's Remon/lrance and the Agreement of the People, 
now in hot Purfuit, take Place, Miniftcrs (hall re- 
ceive no Tythes, Landlords no Rents, Creditors 
no Debts, and opprefled ruined Perfons no Law 
nor Juflice ; Kings muft go down ; Princes and 
Peers quite down ; Parliaments down ; Judges, 

J uftu.es, 



416 7Z><? Parliamentary HISTORY 

. 04 Car. I. Juftices, Magiftrates, Laws, Tenures, Inclofurcs* 
l6 4 s - down ; all rich and landed Perfons down ; their 
ver 7 Wealth and Eftates will be fufficient Caufe to 
make them Malignants to a ftarved Peafantry and 
an all-conquering unpaid Army ; and then what 
follows but immediate irrecoverable Ruin ? I be- 
feech you, therefore, confider in what a defperate, 
hazardous Condition we and the whole Kingdom 
now ftand at prefent ; how near we and Ireland 
are to the very Brink of Ruin. If we will now 
put in to that fafe and fure Harbour of Peace which 
the prefent Treaty invites us into, without any 
further Coft or Fear of Ship-wreck, we may yet, 
through God's Blefling, be fafe and happy : But 
if we now willfully put forth to Sua again, among 
fo many Rocks, Shelves, and Quick-lands which 
furround us on every Side ; and will yet chufe 
War inftead of Peace, when the golden and filver 
Sinews that formerly maintained it are quite fhrunk 
up, we can expect nought elfe but drowning^ and 
a fudden Ship-wreck of all our Kingdoms, Parlia- 
ments, Liberties, Eftates, and of our Church and 
Religion too. 

' Yea, but, fay fome, though all this be Truth, 
xve muft not difpleafe the Army, who are our pre- 
fent Strength and Safety ; for then we are loft in- 
deed. 

* I have anfwered this Objection once before in 
one Senfe, in relation to the Treaty's Satisfadtori- 
nefs j I {hall here anfwer it in another. I fay 
then, 

I/?, ' That we have a God to pleafe, who will 
be difpleafed, if we pleafe the Army in their unjuft 
Demands ; and better it is to pleafe God than any 
Army whatfoever. If God be with us, who can 
le again ft us ? We need no Army's Protection, if 
the Lord of Hofts be our Guardian. 

"idly, ' We have a Confcience to pleafe, as well 
as an Army ; and we muft fatisfy that, though the 
Army (who pretend fo much for Liberty of Con- 
fcience, yet will allow us none, or very little) be 
never fo unfatisfied with it. 

JV * We 



cf ENGLAND. 417 

3r//y, c We have a Kingdom, nay, three King- Aa. 24 Car. I; 
Corns, to p:eafe, and to lave too ; and mult ratlur 
'pleafe and fave them, by rejecting the Army's Pro- 
pofals, which will inevitably ruin them, than pleafe 
the Arm/, in being any way inilrumental for their 
Deftruchon, by embracing their deilruclive Coun- 
Tels : If our Kingdoms be preferved, we may have 
another Army, tnougti this be difbanded, diilblved, 
yea, dettroyed ; but if thefe Kingdoms perifn by 
our purfuing their rafti Propofals, we {hail neither 
have this Army, nor any other Army, who muft 
certainly perifli in and witli the Kingdom's Ruin. 

\tbly, ' We have a Navy to pleafe as well as 
->.n Army, and which is more confiderable to us 
r hun an Army. A new Army may ibon be railed, 
i hough t;ie oid be difbanded ; but a Navy being 
once lull, Ships will not gro\* again, nor another 
Navy be buik in many Years. And will not the: 
ple-afmg of the Army in this, difpleale and lofe the 
Navy aow, as it did the laft Summer, to your great 
Lofs and Danger ? And can this Army guard the 
Kingdom againit any foreign invaiions if the Navy 
be loll? No, nor treble their Number. Loolc tlicn, 
if you pleafe, to your Navy as well as your Army; 
5//;/y, ' We have many hundred thousands () of 
well-afFeited and cordial Chriitians and Covenan- 
ters to pleafe, who have adventured their Ettates, 
Lives, and Limbs in the prefent Cauie, and many 
of them done as gallant Services in the Field, both 
this laft Summer and before, as any in this Army ; 
;\nd are more conuderable for Number, Q^rality, 
Eftate, Wifdom, Parts, and real Piety and Love 
to the Public Intereft, than the' Army-. All which, 1 
I am certain, \ve lhall highly difcontent and grieve, 
nay, palpably over-reaca and cheat to their very 
Faces, if we Diould pleafe the Army in their prc- 
> jrruncis, to their great Prejudice and S^andal^ 
and our K~lij;ir>u's too. 1'hcre was no M.m of 
VOL. XVlIf; D d public 



-f P.<-r.infirjnce uf tbt N^tbtrn Ajfxia'.Ln:, pri-rd in t547' 
^6e huni 

i, and Fntki:.l:, : of tj< EJfirnJlfiiiaiiift 



4 1 8 T/je Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. *4 Car. I public Spirit that engaged with,, contributed to- 
* 6 4 S - wards, or took up Arms in, the Parliament's Ser- 

' December. v ^ ce or Caufe at firft, but meerly upon thefe five 
Grounds, exprefled in all the Houfes Remon- 
ftrances, Declarations, Petitions, Proteftations, and 
in the Solemn League and Covenant : 

The real Mo- I. * To defend" and maintain the true Prote- 

tiv.s of taking ftant Religion, aeainft Popery, Error, and Super- 

p Arms againft ^-^ 

2. < To defend the King's Royal Perfon, Digni- 
ty, and legal Authority, againft Violence, Treach- 
ery, and Ufurpation. 

3. * To maintain the Privileges, Rights, and 
Freedom of Parliaments, and the Fundamental 
Laws and Government of the Kingdom, againft 
State Innovations and Tyranny. 

4. To rcfcue the King's Perfon from evil Coun- 
fcllors, and bring fuch Incendiaries and Delinquents 
to condign Punifhment. 

5. ' To fettle the Kingdom in Freedom, Safe- 
ty, and Peace, againft Cruelty, Dangers, and im- 
minent Wars and Tumults. 

' Upon thefe Grounds, and for thefe Ends only, 
did both Houfes, and all who adhered to them, or 
took up Arms for them, by their Commiffioners, 
engage, and fo did this very Army (). I appeal 
then to every Man's Confcience, Whether the 
Houfes, or any who engaged with them, did ever 
contribute any Monies, Plate, Horfe, Arms, or 
march out as an Officer or Soldier under them in 
thefe Wars, with any fuch Intention as this, to 
depofe and bring the King to Juftice ; difmherit 
the Prince and King's Pofterity ; diffolve the pre- 
fent Parliament, and pull up by the Roots all fu- 
ture Parliaments and their Privileges ; fubvert the 
Fundamental Government of the Realm, and fet 
up a new Reprefentative to dafh all thefe in Pieces ; 
and to deftroy Religion, Magiftracy, and Mini- 
ftry ? Did they not all abhor and difclaim in pub- 
lic, all fuch Thoughts and Intentions as thefe ? 

And, 

(1} Hujkandi's CalleRiotu, Folio Edition, p. 599. 



tjf E N G L A N D. 419 

And, when objected by the King and his Party out An - 24 Car. r. 

of Jealoufy and Fear, did not the Houfes prefent- t *' [ J 

ly refent and rembnftrate againft it as the grofTeft December. 
Scandal on them and their Adherents (c) ? Or would 
fever a Man have engaged with the Houfes, or the 
Houfes with them in this War, or inrolled his 
Name even in this new modelled Army, had he 
been told at firft* That he muft fight to depofe the 
Kingj and bring him to Execution ; to difmherit 
his Pofterity } to diflblve this Parliament, and the 
very Rights, Privileges, and Being of all future; 
Parliaments ; to fet up a new Government and 
Reprefentative in our Church and State ; to alter 
and change all Things at their Fancies, and to 
break every Claufe and Article of the Solemn League 
and Covenant : If not one of thefe was the true 
End of our Wars and Engagements againft the 
King at firft, and all along till now, but the clean 
contrary to them ; then how can they now be pro- 
pounded as the only Fruits of our Wars, and Means 
6r Conditions of our Peace and Settlement ? Will 
they not all fay, if the Houfes or Army proceed in 
their Propofals for Peace and Settlement, mention- 
ed in their laft Remonftrance, that they engaged 
and took up Arms to do quite contrary to what 
they now propofe to the Houfes, and endeavour to 
inforce them to put it into punctual Execution ? And 
will they not now fay, That they are, by their 
original Engagement and Covenant, obliged, with 
their Lives and Eftates, to oppofe and oppugn the 
Army in all thefe Particulars ; that having thus de- 
clared and refolvedj they cannot pray for, but 
Againft, the Army's late Succefles herein ; that they 
cannot henceforth contribute towards their future 
Pay and Supportj in point of Confcience or Pru- 
dence, but muft withdraw and with-hold their Con- 
tributions, and refift them to their Faces ; declare 
their Commiflions null, and not look on, or take 
them as an Army, but as a tumultuous Rout of 
Perfons, aflcmbled without Commiflion, to adt over 
D d 2 Jack 

(c} Vol. XI. p. x6i. llujbemdti Ce!!tftitns : #o, p. 657, 695, 



F 420 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. Jack Cade's Treafons again ; and quite pull down 

1648. tnat Frame of Government and Order which they 

l ~" r ~~. ' have been building up and fupportins; thefe manv 

December. _, u r v /T TT r >r- r 

Years, with luch valt txpence ot Treafure and 
Blood ? Better then difpleafe the Army, than that all 
thefe Covenanters and Engagers fhould fufFerj to 
theirs and three Kingdoms Hazard, Ireland's certain 
Lofs, and this very Army's Overthrow ; which thefe 
Jeluitical Defigns will certainly deftroy in a very 
ihort Space, if they, Jehu like, drive on fo furi- 
oufly, in the Profecution and Executjon of them, 
as they have done of late. 

' Confider, I befeech you, of the Defparatenefs 
and exceflive unavoidable Deftru&ivenefs of thefe 
monftrous Ways to the fpeedy Peace and Settle- 
ment of our Church and State, and of the Safety and 
Security of the Things yourfelves have pitched on 
for Peace and Settlement, in and by the Treaty ; 
and the Lord guide our Hearts and Votes aright 
therein, that we chufe not Death inftead of Life; 
the Ways of Mifery and Deftruclion inftead of the 
Way of Peace ; which Armies feldom know, or 
prefcribe to themfelves or others. 

, Mr, Speaker, 

The Jefuits, the Having thus demonftrated to you the unavoid- 
vlrs'and Foment- able Dcftruaivenefs and Confufion of thofe Couri- 
ers ot all the cils and pretended Ways of Settlement, which the 
Mifchkfs fet on Officers of the Army have propounded, and would 
foot by the Ar- imper ; ou fly ant j forcibly thruft you upon, to the 
King's, Kingdom's, Parliament's, Religion's, their 
own,, ours, and Ireland's certain and moft fpeedy 
Ruin ; I muft now crave Leave, with much Sad- 
nefs of Heart, to unbofom my very Soul unto you, 
and difcover you that Secret which God hath fo 
clearly m an i felted to my Underftanding, that I dare 
not, under the higheft Penalty, but acquaint you- 
with ; That the Jefuits and Roman Priefts and Ca- 
tholics are the original Contrivers, and principal- 
Fomenters, of the late and prefent Diftempers, and 
vr.dutiiul mutinous Proceedings and Councils of the 

Officers 



^ENGLAND. 421 

Officers and Army ; and chief Contrivers of the An - 2 4 Car. I. 

new Babel, or Model of Confufion, which they , 

have tendered to you in their late Remonftrance, December. " 
as the only Way to Peace and Settlement. And 
if I {hall clearly demonftrate this unto the Houfc, 
I hope every Member prefent, and the whole Ar- 
my and Kingdom, when they know it, will eter- 
nally abhor and renounce it, and never henceforth 
countenance or promote this Jefuitical and Romifti 
Defign j which I am perfuaded the General, and 
moft of the Officers and Soldiers of the Army, in 
the Simplicity of their Hearts, with honeft and 
public Intentions of Juftice and common Freedom, 
have been ignorantly drawn into, by the over- 
reaching Pates and Machiavellian Policies of thefe 
cunning Jefuits, who can metamorphofe themfelves 
into any Shape, and invifibly infinuate themfelves 
into their Councils and Actings, to promote their 
own Intereft and our Deftruclion. 

* I do not profefs myfelf to be any great Statef- 
man, or exactly to know whatever is fecretly tranf- 
acted among us ; but this I can fay, without Dif- 
paragement to others, or Vain-glory to myfelf, 
That I have, for many Years laft paft, been as 
curious an Obferver of all the great Tranfacliorts 
of Affairs in Church and State, and of the Inftru- 
ments and Means by which they have been covert- 
ly contrived and carried on, as any Man in this 
Houfe or Kingdom j and that God hath honoured 
me in being one of the firft Difcoverers and Op- 
pofers of the Jefuits and Papifts Plots to undermine 
our Religion, and uflier in Popery by Degrees into 
our Church, by making ufe of our Popifh and Ar- 
minian Prelates and Clergymen as their Inftru- 
ments, and broaching one Arminian and Popilh 
Doctrine, and introducing one Popifh Superftition 
and Innovation after another; of which Ihavegi- 
ven-this Houfe and the Kingdom the fulleft and 
cleared Difcoverics of any Man ; and likevvife of 
introducing Tyranny, arbitrary Power, and civil 
Combuftions in our State, of which I likewife made 
feafonable Difcoverics and Oppofition j the Ground 
D d 3 of 



422 be Parliamentary HISTORY 

An, 24 Car. I. of all my Sufferings, clofe Imprifonment and Ba^ 
t ' _ t nifhment, to prevent the like Detections and Op- 
December, pofitions. And, fmce my Return from Exile, I 
have, in my Rome's Ma/hr-Piece, The Royal Po- 
pijh Favourite, Hidden Works of Darknefs brought 
to public Light, The Antipathy of Englifh Prelacy 
to Unity and Monarchy, and The Hiftory of the 
drchbijhop of Canterbury's Trial, and other Writ- 
ings, given the World fuch an exa& Account of 
the Jefuits and Papifts Plots and Influences upon 
our Church, State, Court, Councils, Prelates, cor- 
rupt Clergy, and all Sorts of People, to reduce us 
back to Rome, fupplant Religion, fubvert Parlia- 
ments, fet up Tyranny, and involve us in Civil 
Wars both in England, Scotland, and Ireland, (con- 
cealed from moft, and fcarce known to any before 
thefe Difcove:ies) as none elfe before or fmce my- 
felf have done ; all which both Houfes have fmce 
approved, and made ufe of in feveral Declarations 
and Remonftrances : And therefore I may, with 
greater Confidence and better Grounds, adventure 
on this Difcovery, of which moft hereprefent (who 
are little acquainted with Myfteries of State or Po- 
litics, and trouble not their Heads with fuch In- 
quiries after them as I have done) are utterly, ig- 
norant, and fo apt to be deluded, and eafily over- 
reached j the plaineft open-hearted Men being 
eafieft to be over-reached by Jefuits and their In- 
ftruments j efpecially when they transform them- 
felves into Angels of Light, or become new Lights, 
to broach new ftrange Opinions, or revive old Er- 
rprs under the Notion of new Lights, as they have 
lately done, to lead captive filly People. 

' To make out this Difcovery fo clearly evident 
that none can rationally deny, but be fufficiently 
convinced of its Truth, I muft remind you of thefe 
Particulars, of undoubted Truth and Certainty, 
which this Houfe and the Houfe of Lords have 
jointly and feverally publiflied and remonftrated to> 
the whole Kingdom, King, and World, in feveral 
Declarations and Remonftrances, and other printed 
Papers. 



r/ N G L A N D. 423 

iflt * That the Jefuits, and other Engineers An. 24 Car. 
and Favors for Rome, for the Alteration of Reli- 
giori, the fetting up of Popery and Tyranny in this 
Kingdom, and Subverfion of the Fundamental 
Laws and Government of it, did, long before the 
Beginning of this Parliament, compofe and fet up 
a corrupt, malignant, ill-afTe6ted Party, confiding 
of corrupt Bifhops and Clergymen, fpme great Of- 
ficers and Counfellors of State, and others of Truft 
and Nearnefs about the King, his Children, and 
Court, to carry on thefe their Defigns, who were 
adled by their fubtil Practices j and that, by this 
Means, thofe Jefuits and Romljb Engineers had a 
very powerful Operation upon his Majefty's Coun- 
cils, and the moft important Affairs and Proceedings 
of his Government both in Church and State (c}. 

2<#y, ' That the moft dangerous Divifions, Pre- 
parations, and Armies to make a War between Eng- 
land and Scotland^ were made and carried on by 
the Practices and Counfels of the Jefuits, Papifts, 
and their Confederates ; many Scots Jefuits being 
fent from London into Scotland to foment the Di- 
vifions there ; and a general Convention of all the 
principal Roman Catholics in this Kingdom, and 
of fundry Priefts and Jefuits, whereof Con the Pope's 
Nuncio was Prsfident, being held in London ; 
wherein great Sums of Money were granted to- 
wards the raifing of the Army againft the Scots, 
and Treafurers and Collectors appointed by them 
in every County ; and Popiih Commanders fent 
for over and employed in that Service, as was ap- 
parently proved before a Committee, and reported 
to this Houfe foon after the Beginning of this Par- 
liament, as your own Journals manifeft (d). 

4 And it further appears by one who was privy 

to that Plot, fent from Rome as an Afliftant to Con y 

D d 4 who, 

(f) All this is, in Ttrmi'nis, aflerted by the Common* in their Pe- 
tition to the King at Hampten-Court, and the Rcmonftrance of the 
State of the Kingdom, prefented with it, m Dicimbtr. 1641. Se 
Vol. X. 

(4) Commons Jaurnaltin January, 1640. Set alfo Rt/JJ:ivortl*i 
Cai'ffiiert, Vol. IV. p. 160. <( ;r?. ar.d io our Ninih Voluu.c, 
p. 111. 



424 7& Parliamentary. H I T o R V 

. 24 .Car. I. w ho, out of Confcience, revealed all the Secrets 
1 s ' of it to dndreas ab Habernfeldt^ Phyfician to the 
Queen of Bohemia at the i-'cgue^ under an Oath 



of Secrefy, and he to Sir IVttliam T$0jkvell and the 
King, (the Originals whereof are in my Cuftody, 
and rublifhed by me, at your Appointment, in my 
Rene's MfJlcr-Piece(a} that the Enii of the Scots 
Wars was to engage the King to caft himfelf 
wholly on the Papiits and their Parry, (the Puri- 
tans and Proteftant Party being averic'to this War, 
and inclining to the Scots) who would not engage 
to afEft him, unleis he would condition with them 
to grant an univeifal Toleration of Popery, 'and 
free Exercife of that Religion to the Pap'ifts, if 
their Party prevailed ; to which if he (hould fhew 
himfelf unwilling or averfe, then they would pre- 
fently difpatch him out of the Way, and poifon 
him with an /.'//# Nut, which they had prepared, 
kept in Con's Cuftody, as they had poifoned his 
Father King James ; and the 'Prince bring next 
Heir to the Crown, educated near his Mother, ac- 
cuftomed to the Popifli Party, and eafy to be per- 
verted in his Religion, being but' young and under 
Age, they would get him into their Power,' educate 
him in their Religion, and match him to a Papift; 
and fo all their W'crk accomplifhed. Popery fct up, 
arid the Protcflants and their : Religion Icon extir- 
pated both in Etig/A&fl Scstland, and Ireland. 

' In this Difcovery he further relates, That there 
were under the Command of Cardinal Bar'/erini^ 
the Pope's Nephew, Protector of the Engiijb Ca- 
tholics, and Con his Nuncio, refident in London^ 
four feveral Ord'ers^of Jefuits, meft active in thefe 
Defigns and Wars, and Difturbers of Chriftian 
Kingdoms., 

' "The mil, Ecclefiaftics, whofe Office it is to 
take Care of Things promoting Reh'jon. 

c The fceond, Politicir.ns, whole Employment 
it is, by anv Means whatsoever, to ihakc, trouble, 
vc-fonn, ar.t: ":ate cf K.' ^Ke-- 

. 

Th? 



0f E N G L A N D. 42-5 

- The third, Seculars, whofe Property it is An - *4 Car. I, 
ro intrude themfelves into Offices and Places about ^_ 
Kings and Princes, and to infmuate and thruft - i>ecnbei-. 
themfelves into Civil Affairs, Bargains, Contracts, 
and fuch like Civil Buftneiles. 
' ' The fourth, Spies or Intelligencers, Men of 
inferior Condition, who -fubmit an.i become Houfe- 
ho!d Servants to Princes, Barons, Noblemen, Great 
M-n, Gentlemen, Cicizens, and others of all Pro- 
feffii^ns, 'to difcover their Minds, and make ufe of 
them to promote their Defigns. 

'* Thefe Jefuits ufually met at one Capt. Read's, 
a Scot [man, a Soldier and Lay-Jefuit, living in 
Long- Acre, in the Habits of Gentlemen, Soldiers, 
and Laymen ; and many of them followed the 
C; mp as Soldiers in thofe intended Wars. That 
there were near as many of all thefe feveral Sorts 
of Jefuits refiding and lurking privily in and about 
London, in September 16^0, (where were then above 
fifty Scots, Jefuits) as were in all Spain, France, and 
Italy ; who have ever fmce been promoting the 
fame Defigns and Divifions among us, during ?.1L 
thefe Wars, as what follows will demonstrate. 

"$dly 9 ' That the diflblving and breaking up of 
all the Parliaments in this King's Ijleign, in Dif- 
content, proceeded from the Counfels and Practices 
of the Jefuits and their Popifh' Confederates ;' to 
difafFect the King againft them, and prevent the 
Calling of Parliaments for the future; as being the 
principal Obftacle to prevent and counter-work all 
their Defigns to promote Popery, and fub vert our 
Religion, Laws, and Gpvernment. 

4//;/y, That the Jefuits, Popifti Priefls, Papifts, 
and their Confederates, ever fmce this Parliament, 
have, by Policy and Power, endeavoured to diflblve 
and put an End to this prefqnt Parliament, as the 
only Bafis and Support of our Religion and Liber- 
ty ; the only Bulwark between us and Tyranny, 
Popery, and Saperftition, ready to over-run the 
three Kingdoms > the Diilblution whereof would 
not only deprive us and our Pofterities of the pro- 
ient, but of the Hopes and Capacity of any future 

' Parli.i- 



426 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 74 Car. I. Parliaments; and that they have indefatigably ufcd 
and left no Means unattempted to diflblve this Par- 
liament, the Continuance and Clofe whereof with 
the King, in a happy Peace and Settlement, would 
fruftrate all their Hopes and Popi(h Defigns, as both 
Lords and Commons have moft fully declared in 
their Rcmonftrances of May 19 and 26(), alfoin 
their Propofitions in February, and their Declara- 
tions in March, 1642 (r) ; and often fince : That 
to effect this they have, 

j/?, c Slandered and traduced this Parliament's 
Proceedings both to the King and People, to ren- 
der them odious to both. 

"idly, * Endeavoured to bring up the Northern 
Army to over-awe and force the Houfes to, aft ac- 
cording to their Dictates and Interefts, or elfe for 
to diflblve and deftroy them. 

"$dly, ' Perfuaded the King to impeach the Lord 
Kimhohon and the five Members, and then to come 
perfonally with a ftrong armed Guard to demand 
and feize upon their Perfons, which was firft plotted 
in France. 

qthly, < Raifed up a Rebellion of all the Papifts 
in Ireland, to deftroy the Proteftants there, and 
diflblve the Parliament here ; againft whom they 
have publickly declared, and fent over Forces to 
the King to aflift him in this War to fupprefs the 
Parliament by Force of Arms. 

5//>/y, ' Perfuaded the King, and many Lords 
and Commons, to defert his Houfes of Parliament, 
in order to diflblve and deftroy the Parliament, 
and then to raife War againft them ; in which tfie 
Jefuits and Papifts, at home and abroad, have been 
moft active, and deepeft engaged both in Purfe and 
Perfon ; they being the principal Contrivers, Abet- 
tors, and Fomenters of this War, to fubvert our 
Religion and Liberties, and fet up Popery and Ty- 
ranny. 

bthly, * Plotted the feizing and apprehending of 
fome eminent leading Members, by a Confederacy 

and 

(b] Vol. XI. p. 1.4. 89. () Vd. XII. p. 147. /<? 



of ENGLAND. 427 

Jind Commiflion here in London, for which Tomp- An. 24. Car. I. 
kins and others were executed j as the Lords and ^ ' _, 
Commons in their Declaration of Off. 22 (d) y and December, 
their Humble Deiires, Feb. i, 1642, with other 
Declarations fmce, remonftrate. 

Jth/y, f That thefe Jefuits and their Party have 
obftrucled, diverted and prevented, the Relief and 
Supply of the Proteftants in Ireland with Men and 
Money, to betray us into the Power of the Irijh 
Rebels, and extirpate the Proteftants and their Re- 
ligion there. 

* All thefe are remonftrated and declared to all 
the World by near one hundred of your own De- 
clarations^), and every Man's real Experience: A I 
which the. Army, in their late Proceedings, have, 
purfued and exceeded. 

f On the other Side it is as evident, by your 
pwn Declarations, that this Army, and all your 
other Forces, were purpofely raifed and engaged, 
both by Commiflion, Oath, Covenant, and their 
own folemn Proteftations and Remonftrances, to 
defend the King's Perfon, in the Maintenance of 
our Religion, Laws, and Liberties j to maintain 
the ancient Government of this Kingdom, by King, 
Lords, and Commons j the Rights and Privileges 
of Members of Parliament, againft all Force and 
Violence to them, and the Fundamental Laws of 
the Realm ; and to extirpate, as much as in them 
lay, all Popery, Idolatry, Error, Superftition, 
5chifm, and whatever is contrary to foun,d Doc- 
trine. 

* This Engagement they really performed in the 
Field, till all the King's popifh and prclatical Par- 
ty in Arms were utterly routed and broken in Pieces, 
and their Garrifons reduced to the Parliament; till 
which Time the Priefts, Jefuits, and Papifts, join- 
ed all the Force and Power they could raife, with 
the King's Forces, againft the Houfes and this Ar- 
my, to conquer and deftroy them: But their Hope* 
and Defigns being wholly fruftratcd by the King's 

total 

\ (4) Vol. XI. p. 458. ( f ) Vol. IX. 



428 he Parliamentary HISTORY 

n. 24 Car. I. total Defeat, thefe Jefuits and their Engineer% 
^1648. ^ W ^Q transform themfelves into all Shapes, and 
December, leave no Means unattempted tocompafs their End?, 
thsn faced about from the King's Parry ; and le- 
cretly iniinuated themfelves into the Parliament's 
Army, to mutiny and debauch them againft the 
Parliament, and engage them to put a fpccdy Pe- 
riod, and Diffolution to it. To this End they at- 
tempted to hinder and difluade them from difoand- 
ing and going over to relieve diftreffed Ireland ac- 
cording to the Houfes Votes ; and to engage them 
againft the Houfes in March, April, and May, 1647, 
till which Time the Army had ever (hewed them- 
fel.-e^ moft dutiful and obedient to the Houfes 
Commands : But then, to divert and hinder all Re- 
lief of the Proteftant Party, in Ireland then brought 
low, and ready to be fwallowed up, (when we had 
no Need at all of above feven or eight thoufand 
{landing Forces in England, where there was no 
vifible Enemy ; and might have fpared ten thou- 
fand Men for Itdand, who would foon have quel- 
led the Rebels and Papifts there) thefe Jefuits, and 
their Pcpifh, Inftruments, at that very Inftant, which 
is obfervable, on Purpofe to preferve their Party 
in Ireland^ and deftroy the Proteftants there, not 
only difluaded thofe of the Army who were en- 
gaged and drawn off for Ireland from going thither, 
but difcouraged and inforced them to defert that 
Service ; yea hindered other Forces from going 
over for their Relief; perfuading the Army, that 
this dividing of them was but a Plot of Mr. Holies 
and other Members to deftroy them; and then, 
by fomenting this Jealoufy, and raifing up a new 
Order and Council of Agitators in the Aimy, fome 
whereof were verily fufpe&ed, if not known to be 
Jefuits, they caufed the Army, at a general Ren- 
dezvous, to enter into a folemn Engagement not to 
> dilband; but to march up to London, to force the 

Houfes to alter, annull. and repeal divers Votes 
and Ordinances they had pafied ; publiihed divers 
icandalous Declarations and Papers againft their 

Pro- 



of ENGLAND, 429 

Proceedings, to difengage and draw off the City An. 24 Car. I* 

rmd Country from their Defence ; impeached no ^__ __j 

lefs than eleven of their Members at once, (when December. 

as the King impeached only five) demanded their 

prefent Suipenfion from the Houfe before any legal 

Charge or Evidence, elfe they would march up to 

the Houfes Doors, and pull them out by Violence, 

as the King would have done : After which they 

foil to feclude and drive away more Members by* 

3 new ex Ojfith Proceeding ; inforcing them now 

at laft to accufe themfelves and draw up their own. 

Cafes; and, in Augujl 1647, drove away moft of 

the Houfe by their open Force and high Menaces. 

c Then they fet up feveral Councils of State in 
the Army; and, waving their Demands as Sol-' 
diers, formerly infifted on, fell to new model the 
State, contrary to their former Engagements ; ta 
let up a new Model of Government ; to put fc 
fpeedy and limited Time for the Period of this Par- 
liament, and a new and more equal Election of 
Members and Reprefentatlves, and Beginning and 
Ending of Parliaments, for the future; receive 
Petitions ; order all Matters of Church and State, 
without the Parliament, who muft only ratify and 
confirm their Votes ; and fell to treat with, and 
tender Propofals of their own to, the King, without 
the Houfes Privity. Befides, to pick a Quarrel with 
the City of London, who had firit railed and \\ere 
fo cordial to the Army and Parliament, and make 
an irreconcilable Breach between the City and 
Houfes, to> deftroy them both by Degrees, they 
caufed the Houfes on a fudden, upon a Letter from 
the General, in one Afternoon, without hearing 
the City, or giving them the leaft Notice of it, to 
recall the new Ordinance for fettling their MHitia ; 
wherewith they being juftly oftended, thereupon 
the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, and Common Council 
prefented a Petition to both Houfes^ July 26, 1647, 
to refettle their Militia as before, being in a full 
and free Houfe fettled without any difienting Votes, 
by all their Confejits, which was feconded by a 
Petition from the Apprentices ; who, being over 

earneftj 



4 ^tf The Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. t earned, offered fome unarmed Violence to the 
v __ ^ , Houfes, and got the Ordinance of Repeal nulledj 
December. an ^ the Militia refettled as formerly : Herepuoiri 
they perfuaded the Army to march up fpeedily to 
London^ (not only without, but againft the Houfes 
Qrder not to quarter within forty Miles of the 
City) to protect the Houfes from arty future Vio- 
lence ; to bring the Authors of this Force to fpeedy 
and exemplary Punifhment, and reftofe the Houfes 
to a Condition of Honour, Freedom, and Safety ; 
and that, by offering a greater Force to the Mem- 
bers who continued fitting in the Abfence of thofe 
who repaired to, and engaged with them, than that 
of the Aprentices ; driving the Eleven Members, 
formerly impeached, out of the Houfe and King- 
dom ; expelling them, and others out of the Houfe ; 
forcing away mod of the Commons ; nulling all 
Votes, Orders, and Ordinances, from July 26, to 
Augujl 6, 1647; and, after that, marched through 
London in Triumph ; broke down all their Forts 
and Works about the City ; took the Tower out 
of their Poffeffion ; divided the Militia of Wejl~> 
mmjler and Southwark from them j impeached and- 
imprifoned fundry Aldermen and others, who ap- 
peared moft active for the Parliament from the BeJ 
ginning ; impeached, fufpended, and imprifoned, 
feven Lords at once, for fundry Months together j 
v afterwards releafed them without any Profecution : 

And, by this Means, raifed fuch a Breach between 
the City and Houfes, fet the Members one againft 
another, and put fuch a Stand to their Proceedings, 
by thefe Difturbances in the Parliament's Army, 
as they could never effect before by all their mila- 
trary Power and Forces, (f ) 

4 Now, lay all thefe Diftempers and Proceed ings 
together, and compare them with the Army's late 
Remonftrance, Declarations, Menaces, and pre- 
fent March to London, to force and levy War a* 
gainft the Houfes, and their Members, in cafe they 
concur not with them in their Jefuitical Whimfies 
and Defigns j and we {hall find them all fo oppofite 

and 
(f) Vol. XV, XVI. and XVII, 



of E N G L A N D. 431 

and repugnant to the Army's former Obedience, An. 2+ cr. I. 

Profeflions, and Principles j fo fuitable to the Je- v 64 *' M 

fuits Practices in every Particular ; all tending only D ecem b. 

to force and diflblve this prefent Parliament, to 

annul and invalidate its Proceedings, and weaken 

all its Intereft, both in the City and Country ; and 

then every rational Man muft needs acknowledge, 

they all originally fprung from Jefuitical Suggeftions 

and Councils ; and that Ignatius Loyola, then and 

now, rode in an open and triumphal Chariot in 

the Van of thefe, and all their late Actions of this 

Nature. 

' Add to this the monftrous Opinions broached 
publickly and privately, in the Army and their 
Quaiters, againft the Divinity of the Scriptures ; the 
Trinity ; the Deity of our Saviour ; that Anti- 
chrift is only within us ; that Conlcience ought to 
be free, and all Religions tolerated; that every 
Man is a Minifter, and may lawfully preach with- 
out Ordination ; that the Civil Magiftrate hath no 
legiflative nor coercive Power in Matters of Reli- 
gion ; that Tythes are Antichriftian, and the like; 
feconded with public Affronts to our Minifters, 
climbing up into their Pulpits ; interrupting them 
publickly in their Sermons : and making our 
Churches common Stables in fome Places, and 
Receptacles of their Excrements ; their open Re- 
vilings at the Proceedings of Parliament and their 
Members ; and all to render our Religion and the 
ProfefTors of it odious to the People ; to make 
them readier and better inclined unto Popery j dif- 
grace and undo our Minifters, and render them 
and their Preaching ineffectual ; fubvert the Power 
of our Magiftracy ; make the Houfes odious to all ; 
and put all Things into a prefent Confufion : I am 
confident all thefe were nothing elfe but the Pro- 
jects and Practices of Jefuits and their Agents, who 
crept into the Army to feduce and diftemper them ; 
being fo diametrically contrary to the General's, 
Officers, and Soldiers former Practices, Principles, 
Profeflions, and that Piery they have profefled. 

But 



foe Parliamentary Hi s T o R If 
c at tnat: w hich further demonftrates it is this, 
That after the General and Officers of the Army- 
December, had corifefled their Error, in meddling with State 
Affairs, and fettling and reforming the Common 
Wealth, in the General Council at Putney, (where 
they voted and a&ed more like a Parliament thari 
a Council of War) and promifed to proceed no 
further in it, but acquiefce with the Houfes De- 
terminations, thefe Jefuits^ by the Help of their 
Inftrumehts, the Agitators, to carry on their De- 
fign of putting a fpeedy Period to the prefent and 
all future Parliaments, drew up a Model cf a new 
Reprefentative; which they intituled The Agreement 
of the People^ fubfcribed by divers Regiments of 
the Army, (nine of Horfe and fevert of Foot) and 
then caufed it to be prefentedto the Houfe of Com- 
mons in November, 1647. The Matter, End, and 
Time of it compared together, and the Houfes Votes 
upon it, are very ccnfiderable, and difcover a Je- 
fait in the Front and Rear of it. We all know that 
the Jefuits and their Popiih Confederates, ever fmce 
Queen Elizabeth's P-eign, wheri fo many ftri<Sl 
Laws were made againft them, have had an aching 
Tooth againft' Parliaments. Their firit and molt 
dcfpcrate Attempt was in the third Year of King 
James, to blow up the King and both Houfes of 
Parliament with Gunpowder : The original Plot- 
ters of this horrid Treafon were the Pope and Je- 
fuits, as is clear by DdRio's Book, and other print- 
ed Papers almoft a Year before ; the chief Alor? 
in it were difcontented Gentlemen an^' Soldiers, 
Ciitejty, Percy, JVinter, Faux, and others, as our 
Stories relate (e], fitlnftruments to blow up Parlia- 
rrierits : The Day when this was to be executed 
was the fifth of November \ but this Treafon be- 
ing, thro' God's great Mercy, difcovered on that 
)ay, the King and Parliament adjudged thofe Je- 
ftiits and Popiih Traitors to be executed, and that 
Day, by Act of Parliament, to be perpetually ob^ 

ierved 

(?) See We Arraignment of Traitors, Vicars's Htftory, Speed'* 
Cbrtnicle, and others^ 



of ENGLAND. 433 

fcrved for a Thankfgiving for this happy Deliver- An 2 4- Car. I. 

"jance from that Trcafon. The Jefuits, who have v __. 

proken off" all former Parliaments in this King's December. 
Reign till this, and would eternally difiblve this 
and all fucceeding Parliaments, by way of Re- 
venge for their ill Succefies theq, hare, thefe two 
laft Years together, in this very Month of tiovem- 
ber^ confpired to blow up or pull down this arid 
all other Parliaments ; fo as the very Circumftance 
of the Month and Time difcovers, in my Appre- 
henfion, .the Jefuits to be chief Actors in this Tra- 
gedy. The rirft Attempt of this Kind was on the 
fifth of November ^ 1647, the very Day of the 
Powder Plot, but, by the Houfes Occafipns, put 
off till the ninth: Then \hz Agreement of the People 
Was ufhered into the Houfe of Commons, with i. 
Petition from the Agitators'. When this Agree- 
rnent of the People and Petition was prefented^ 
Giffofd, a Staffordshire Gentleman^ and a Jefuit 
fa Year before feht from beyond the Seas, who at 
firft feign'd himfelf a Convert to our Religion) 
was prefent in the Lobby with the Agitators, and 
promoted it all he could ; expreffing his Approba- 
tion of it, being gotten into the General's own 
Life Guard, and the next Man to him when he 
came to bring the Speaker into the Houfe of Com- 
nions, Auguft 6, 1647. He was afterwards verjr 
nive to perfuade the Sialfordjhire fupernumcrary 
Forces not to difbaiid or to go for Ireland, and pre- 
vailed fo much with them, that there were feve- 
ral Orders' from the Houfe and General before they 
would obey ; therefore 'tis probable he and they 
perfuadcd the Army at firfl not to difband or to go 
f"6r Ireland: After which he was taken this Sum- 
mer, at a Meeting iri Ram-Alley^ contriving the 
railing a new War; and being carried Prifoner td 
the Committee of Safety, made an Efcapefrom 
thence, by bribing his Keepers, as is conceived, 
having offered 50 Pieces to a Captain to fuffer him 
to efcape. This Petition and Agreement of the 
People* thus pref^nted bv the Agitators and thisf 
VOL. XVIII, ' E e Jefuie, 



434 *^ f Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. Jefuit, being read, after Debate thereof, this Houfe 
. *y ' , pafled the following Votes againft it: 
December. Dit Mortis, Nov. 9, 1647. 

c A Paper directed To tke Supreme Authority cf 
6 the Nation, the Commons in Parliament ajjembled, 
' and ftyled, The juft and earnefl Petition of thofe 

* whofe Names are fubfcribed, in behalf of themfehes 
' and all the freeborn People o/"England, together 

* with a printed Paper annexed, intitled, An Agree- 
' ment of the People for future and prefent Peace 

* upon Grounds of common Right, bein;i read, 

Refched, ' That the Matters contained in thefe 
' Papers are deftruclive to the Being of Parliaments, 

* and to the Fundamental Government of the 

* Kingdom. 

Refolvtd, ' That a Letter be fent to the Gene- 
fr ral, and thefe Papers inclofed, together with the 

* Vote of this Houfe 'upon them ; and that he b 

* defired to examine the Proceeding of this Bufi- 

* nefs in the Army, and return an Account there- 

* of to this Houfe.' 

* By tbefe Votes it is apparent, that the Houfe 
then deemed this Agreement of the People a fecond 
Gunpowder Treafcn, defttuctive to the Being of 
Parliaments j that fome Jefuits, or ill-affe&ed Per- 
inns in the Army, had put thefe Agitators upon it } 
and therefore defired the General to examine and 
give them an Account of it. 

s The General and Council of War, in purfu- 
ance of this Vote, condemned one of the Agitators 
who fomented it, and fliot him to Death at Ware, 
wherewith they acquainted the Houfe ; and, by this 
Means, this Jefuit's Brat and Engine, to blow up 
this and future Parliaments, was no further profe- 
cuted in the Army ; but forrie of their Confede- 
rates in the City, on the 23d of the fame Novem- 
ber, moft audacioufly fent it into the Houfe to the 
Speaker, inclofed in a Letter with a Petition ; 
whereupon the Houfe then unanimoufly pafled thefe 
Votes concerning this Agreement, for the commit- 
ting 



0f ENGLAND. 43$ 

Ing and profecuting thofe who prefented it, and An ', 2 g'F a '' ** 
giving the General Thanks for the Execution done t y ' A 
\\tWare\ and defiring him to profecute the Bufi- Deceruba. 
nefs further to the. Bottom, where they thought 
they {hould find a Litter of Jefuits, and a Garnet^ 
a Catejby, and a Faux all together in the Vault. 

Die Martis, November 23, 1647. 
* A Petition directed To the Supreme Authority 

* of England, the Commsns in Parliament ajjcmbled, 

* and intituled, The humble Petition of many free-. 
c born People 0/"England, fent in a Letter directed 

* to Mr. Speaker, and opened by a Committee 

* thereunto appointed, was read the firft and fecond 

* Time. 

Rejohed, c That this Petition is a feditious and 

* contemptuous Avowal and Profecution of a for- 

* mer Petition and Paper annexed, &j\t&Anjigrit* 
' ment of the People, formerly adjudged by this 
' Houfe to be deftru&ive to the Being of Parlia- 
' ments, and Fundamental Government of the 

* Kingdom. 

Refohed, ' That Thomas Prince, Cheefemon- 
4 ger, and Samuel Chldley, be forthwith committed 

* Prisoners to the Prifon of the Gatehoufe j there to 
' remain Prifoners during the Pleafure of this Houfe, 

* for a fedious and contemptuous Avowing and 
' Profecution of a former Petition and Paper an- 
' nex'd, ftyled An Agreement of the People, former- 

* ly adjudged by this Houfe to be deftrudtive to the 

* Being of Parliaments and Fundamental Govern- 
' ment of the Kingdom. 

Refolded, ' That 'Jeremy Ives, Thomas Taylor , 

* and IVilliam Larner be forthwith committed to 

* the Prifon of Newgate', thefeto remain Prifoners 

* during the Pleafure of this Houfe, for a feditious 
4 and contemptuous Avowing and Profecution of 

* a former Petition and Paper annex'd, ftyled An 
c Agreement of the People, formerly adjudged by 
4 this Houfe to be deftrudtive to the Being of Par- 
c liatnents, and Fundamental Government of the 

* Kingdom. 

E e 2 R<~ 




December. 



The Parliamentary H I s T o R V 

Refolved, ' That a Letter be prepared and fent 
to the General, taking Notice of his Proceedings 
in the Execution, accordingto theRules of War, 
of a mutinous Perfon, at the Rendezvous near 
Ware j to give him Thanks for it ; and to de- 
fire himtoprofecute the Examination of that Bu- 
finefs to the Bottom, and to bring fuch guilty 
Perfons as he fhall think fit to condign and ex- 
emplary Punifhment. 

Refolved, ' That the Votes upon the former 
Petition and Agreement annexed, and likewife 
the Votes and Proceedings upon this Petition^ 
be forthwith printed and publifhed.' 
' Both Houfes, Mr. Speaker, were fo fenfible of 
the Treafonablenefs and Danger of this Agreement, 
that in an Ordinance of the jyth of December ; 
1647, for electing of Common-Council-Men and 
other Officers in London, they exprefly ordain'd, 
That no Perfon who hath contrived, abetted , perfua- 
ded, or entered into that Engagement, intituled, The 
Agreement of the People, then declared to be de- 
Jlruttive to the Being of Parliaments, and Funda- 
mental Government of the Krngdojn, be elected, cho- 
fen, or put into the Office or Place of Lord Mayor 
df the City of London, Sheriff', or of Alderman? 
Deputy of a Ward, or Common-Council- Man of 
the faid City ; nor Jhall have any Voice in the Elec- 
tion of any fuch Officers for the Space of one whole 
Tear, and be made incapable of any of the faid 
Places. 

* Upon this treble Sentence of Condemnation, 
thus pafs'd againrt this Agreement of the People, 
by thefe Votes and Ordinances, this Stratagem of 
the Jefuits to blow up this and future Parliaments, 
by putting a certain Period to this Parliament's 
Diflblution on the laft of September, 1648, and: fet- 
tling a more equal Repiefentative for the future, 
with a fixed Time for its Beginning and Ending; 
and of a new Parliament of Commons alone, with- 
out King or Lords (the Subftance of this whole 
Agreement} was for that Year fruftrated, and to- 
tally laid afide till the Beginning of November laft; 

at 



of E N G L AND. 437 

at which Time the Jefuits and the Agitators, to An - 2 <i <" ar - 

hinder Ireland's Relief and our Settlement, profe- ^___ ^ 

cuted it again afrefh in the Army ; and the better December. 

to difguife and carry it on more clofcly, they infcrt- 

cd it verbatim into their Remonftrance to break. 

off the Treaty with the King; and prevailed fo 

far with the General and his General Council of 

Officers, (who formerly condemned it, and fhot 

one to Death for abetting it but in November 1647) 

as imanimoufly to approve it at St. Albarfs the 1 6th 

of November laft, and fend it to this Houfe the 

20th of that Month, to be forthwith confidered and 

confirmed, thereby to break off the Treaty pre- 

fently ; and, which is moft obfervable, ufliered it 

in with this Jefuitical Preface, and thefe difloyal 

popifh Demands (e). 

' That the capital and grand Author of our Trou- 
bles^ the Perfon of the King, by whofe Commijfion, 
Commands-^ or Procurement, and in whofe Behalf \ 
and for ivhofe Inter eft only, of Will and Power, all 
our IVars and Troubles have been, with all the Mi- 
feries attending them, may be fpeedily brought to Ju- 
Jllce, for the Treafon, Blood, and Mifchlef he is 
therein guilty of: 

' That a timely and peremptory Day may befet 
for the Prince of Wales and Duke of York to come 
in and render themselves, or elfe immediately to be 
made incapable of any Government or Truji in this 
Kingdom, or the Dominions thereof, or of any Right 
within the fame ; and thenceforth to ftand exiled 
for ever, as Enemies and Traitors ; to die without 
Mercy, if ever hereafter found therein ; or if they 
render themfelves, then to be proceeded again/I for 
their capital Delinquency, in 'Juftice, or remitted 
upon Satisfaction given\ but however the Lands and 
"Revenue of the Crown to be presently fcquejlred : 
And then follows the Agreement of the People, for 
fettling feme rcafonable and certain Period io this 
Parliament, to be ajjigned as Jhort as may be with 
Safety to the Kingdom and Public Interejt thereof t 
and for fettling the new Rcprefentative, &c. 

E e 3 ' And 

(/) In this Volume, p. 22?, ^$^ 




The Parliamentary HISTORY 

c And becaufe it was twice voted down in No- 
vember 1647, by the Houfe, it is twice repeated 
December anc ^ ' n ^^ ec ^ on in this long- winded Remonftrance (b) 
(fo much are they in Love with this Jefuit's Dalilah) 
that fo it might now be twice confirmed and fet- 
tled by the Houfe, if they fhould approve this Re- 
monftrance. 

Now, compare this third Gun- powder Plot with 
the two former in November laft, to blow up King, 
Prince, Duke, Lords, Commons, this prefentandall 
future Parliaments at one Attempt; to deftroythe 
King and Parliament ; difmherit his Royal Pofteri- 
ty ; unpeer all the Lords, and level them with the 
Duft ; to root up them and all Parliaments, Root 
and Branch, at once, againil all our Oaths, our Co- 
venants, our Remonftrances, and our Declarations ; 
our Laws, our Proteftant Religion, all here devoted 
to Ruin together ; as the only fafe and fpeedy Way 
to fettle Peace and Safety in Church and State, (to 
omit the horrid Equivocations, Difpenfations with 
Oaths and Covenants, and Jefuitical Diftinctions 
jn that Remonftrance) they are fuch clear vifible 
Characters of a Jefuit's Pencil, Hand, and Head 
in this Remonftaance (fo abounding with their 
bloody difloyal Tenets and Practices of killing and 
depofmg Chriftian Kings who will not do homage 
to their Roman Pontif, and blowing up Proteftant 
States, Kingdoms, Parliaments); fo abhorrent to all 
Proteftants Principles, Profeffions, Practices (c ) ; who 
never yet imbrued their Hands in, nor ftained their 
Religion with, the Blood of any King,' or. actual 
Depofal of any Proteftant or PopKh Prince who 
was their lawful King, or difinheritingof his lawful 
Heirs, or pulling down a Proteftant reforming Par- 
liament ; that none but Jefuits and Jefuited Papifts 
could poflibly invent, or fpur on the General, Of- 
ficers, and Army fo violently and madly to profe- 
cute them, as they do by a fubfequent hieh Decla- 
ration, discovering a very Jefuitical Spirit in the 

Pen- 

'() In this Volume, f>. 174, 5, 6 ; 232, 3, 4. 
(c) -See the Homilies agairtjl Reixl/ion. Deus et Rex, Joh.i White's 
Danes' of the Way to tie trite Cburfb, fap. 6. 



^ENGLAND. 439 

Penman ; charging the Members of the Houfe A". 54 Car. I- 
diffenting from them, in thefe treafonable Prac-^^ ' ^ 
tices, with a treaforvible Breach of Truft ; and u- December. 
furping to themfelves a Power to judge, cenfure, 
and exclude them ; and make thofe Members who 
fhall confederate with them herein, though never 
fo few, materially a Parliament, though formally 
and eflentially no Parliament at all; and moving 
them to depart the Houfe and join with them in 
thefe Jefuidcal Defigns; which they have fince 
aggravated and bjclced by their difobedient March 
to London and Wefimmjler againft our Commands, 
by Force and open Violence to over-awe us ; and, 
by our Votes in Parliament, to put all their trea- 
fonable Romijk Demands in prefent Execution; to 
juftify thefe very treafonable Doctrines and Prac- 
tices of theirs, which our Parliaments have, in di- 
rect Terms, in fundry Acts condemned (e) ; and in 
the O..th of Allegiance, (which every one of us 
muft take immediately before -his fitting in the 
Houfe, and without taking whereof he neither is 
nor can be enabled to fit as a Member) folemnly 
abju 

4 ..hill further offer this to your Confiderations, 
T" as foon ^s ever this Agreement of the People 
\v ipprefied in November, 1047, and the King 
r '.j v> .-eject the Proportions tendered to 

i Houfes, by fome Officers in the Ar- 
Pu pofe to treat on their Propofals, the 
Jefuits in the Army oppofing thefe 
Fic t . ,\!i, ami threatning to offer fome Violence 
to i ; '.-non, cauied him fecretly to with- 

a>m Hampton-Court into the I lie of 
Wight., 'viicrc they ihut him qp clofe Prifoner, 
without ilie ilvyi-.fcs Privity; which done, they 
caufed their Confederates, when moft of the Menv- 
bers were lent into the Country to difbajid the Su- 
pernumeraries, to pal's a Vote in the Commons 
Houfe, to make no more Addrelles to the King (f) ; 
not to fet him afide, as they then profefll-d to ma- 
ny diflentina; Members, but only to induce the 

* *r 

L e 4 King 

(f) 3 JacoH, p. i, 2, 3, 4, 5. 
(f) Vol. XVI. p. 486 to 490. 



44 *be Parliamentary HISTORY 

. a* Car. l-King to feek firft to them, without which Prote- . 
* '* ;' _, ftation they had neyer carried that Vote ; which 

t)eceqiber. being pafled, and moft of the Members departing, 
three more Votes were fet on Foor, and parted at 
g.n unfeafonable Hour, and gotten by Surprife. 

' The very next Morning there came a Decla- 
ration from Sir Thomas Fairfax^ and the General 
Council of the Army, dated January 9, 1647 (g} t 
fignifying their Refolutions to adhere to the Houfes, 
for fettling and fecuring the Parliament and King - 
dom, without the King, and againft him, or any 
others tfyat jhall hereafter partake with linn: But 
the Lords flicking at 1 thefe Votes, there was a Re- 
giment or two pf Foot fent to garrifon Whitehall^ 
and a Regiment of Horfe from the Army billeted 
in the Mews, to fright and force the Lords to a 
Concurrence (b). 

' Some few Days after, a Book written by Dole- 
man, alias farfins the Jefuit, againil K.'\ngjames's 
Title to the Crown ; and concerning the Lawful-- 
nefs of Subjects and Parliaments depofmg and 
chaftifing of their Kings for their Mifgovernment, 
and the good and profperous Succefs that God com- 
monly hath given to the fame, (reprinted verbatim 
from Doleman's own printed Copy, except the 
Word Parliament added to it now and then) was 
publiftied to the World, with this Title, Several 
Speeches delivered at a Conference, concerning the 
Power of Parliaments to proceed again/I their King 
for Mlfgovernment, ; which falfe new Title pub- 
Jifhedatthat Seafon, intimated to the World that 
this Difcourfe of a Jefuit, for which he was con- 
demned of High Trcafon, was nothing e'fe but 
Speeches made by fame Members of the Commons Houfe 
at a Conference wit;] the Lords: The higheft Diflio- 
npur and AiTront ever put upon a Proteftant Parlia- 
ment, to have the Book and Doctrine of a Jefuit 
thus falfly fathered on them ; ofwhich, though I 
myfclf and others complained, there was nothing 
Jone to vindicate the Houfes from this grofs Im- 
putation, 

About 



of E N G L A N D. 44! 

* About the fame Time there was another An. s 4 Car.T. 
Book, intituled, Royal Tyranny dl {covered*, difeover- v * 6 4 8 - 
ing the Tyranny of the Kings of England,/;-*;/* Wil- Dectmbe" 
liam the Invader, and Robber, and Tyrant, alias the 

Conquer or , to this prefint King Charles ; who is 
plainly proved to be worfe and more tyrannical than 
any of his Predecejjors, and deferves a morefevcre 
PuniJJjinent from the Hands of this prefent Parlia- 
ment than either of the dethroned Kings Edward IL 
or Richard II. had from former Par/laments; which 
they are bound by Ditty and Oath, without Equivo- 
cation or Collufion to infliff upon him, he being the 
grcatejl Delinquent in the thrte Kingdoms, and the 
Head of the re/?', fo the Title. In the Table there 
are thcfe Paflages amongft others, Charles Stuart 
guilty of Treafon ; C. R. [Charles Rex] ought to 
be executed-, where the Houfes are not only pref- 
fed to depofe and execute him, but his Execution, 
in cafe of theii Neglect, foretold, and that in anex- 
emplary Manner , in Defpite of all his Protettors and 
Defenders. 

* Thcfe Jefuitical Books and Councils, publifli- 
ed at that Inftant, difcovered clearly, to my Ap- 
prehcnfion, their Votes for laying the King afide, 
and depofing and executing of him, even then to 
have been intended ; but only interrupted by the 
Scots Invafion, and the laft Summer's Commotions, 
occafioned by thofe Votes of Non-addrefles ; and 
the Forcing of them on, both then and now, by the 
Army, with the Violence they ufe, to be no other 
but a very Plot and Project of the Jefuits, to ruin 
and dt-ftroy the King and us. 

' I (hall only add to this what I manifefted but 
now, that it VMS the Jefuits Plot, when they en- 
gaged and aflifted the King in his War againft the 
Scots, to dafti the Proteftants in both Nations in 
Pieces one againft another j fo to be Mafters ot 
both Kingdoms, and extirpate our Religion in both; 
and thar, if the King confented not to grant them 
a general free Exercife of their Religion throughout 
all his Realms and Dominions, or did put ftirk at it, 
that then they would prefcntly poifon and difpatch 

him j 



442 The Parliamentary HISTORY 

n. 24 Car. I. him; poffefs themfelves of the Prince, the next 
Heir to the Crown; and then by Flattery or Me- 
naces draw him to their Religion, and match him 
to a Papift ; and then all the three Kingdoms would 
foon turn Papifts, and all Proteftants be murdered, 
or hurnt for Hereticks. 

4 Now, thefe Papifls and Jefuits underftanding 
that the King, beyond and contrary to their Ex- 
pectation, hath granted all or moft of our Propoft- 
tions in the Ifle of Wight ; and fully condefcended 
to feveral new Bills, for the Extirpation of Mafs, 
Popery, and Popifh Innovations out of his Domi- 
mons j the putting all Laws in Execution againft 
them, and for fpeedier Difcovery and Conviction of 
them than formerly ; and that their good Friends 
and Confederates, our Archbifhops, Biihops, Deans 
and Chapters, and other Branches of the Hierarchy, 
are to be wholly rooted out both in England and Ire- 
land^ (fo as they are never likely to have any more 
Footing; in them again, after all their late Wars, 
Charges, Hazards, Plots, and Defigns to fet up 
their Catholic Religion and Party) are fo enraged 
with the King, and fo inexorably incenfed againft 
him both at home and abroad as I am credibly in- 
formed, that now they are mad againft him, and 
thirft for nothing but his Blood, which they think 
they cannot advantagtoufly and effectually accom- 
plifh, but by engaging the Army to diflblve the 
Treaty, and force the Parliament, i*i cafe they vote 
his Anfwers fatisfaclory ; and then, by themfelves 
or a confederate Party in the Houfe, to clepofe and, 
cut off his Head. The Prince being alfo now be- 

fond Seas in their Power, deftitute of his Hopes of 
ucceffion to this Crown, banimed and declared a> 
Traitor, and to die without Mercy if he return, 
hither, and to lofe his Head as well as his Father, 
(upon fuch high Affronts put upon his Father and 
himfelf, and that by a Proteftant Parliament and 
Army of Saints) will be fo enraged againft all Pro- 
felFors of our Religion, that he will probably profefs 
himfelf a Roman Catholick, and his Brother too, and. 

match, 



^ENGLAND. 443 

rnatch with a Catholic Princefs ; and thus engag? all An, 24 Car. I. 
the Papifts in foreign Parts, England, Scotland, and t l64 " 8 ' ^j 
Ireland, to unite their Forces, Purfes, and Coun- ' D ecem bcr. 
cils, by way of Revenge, to cut all the Proteftants 
Throats in all the three Kingdoms, who have ad- 
hered to the Parliament, and hew the Army itfelfin 
Pieces, when they have thus accomplifli'd their De- 
figns ; which will render them and the Parliament 
execrable and infamous to all Pofterity : And then, 
farewell all Parliaments, and our Proteftant Reli- 
gion for ever ; not only here, but throughout all 
Chriftendom, where the Popifh Princes will pre~ 
iently malTacre the Proteftants, left they fliould 
fall ta the like perfidious Practices. This I am 
moft confident is their Defign, by what I have met 
with in their Papers, and in the Jefuit Contzcns 
Politicks and others, who have chalked out a Way 
by Degrees, infenfibly to fcrue Popery into any Pro- 
teftant Church, by thofe very Steps which our Pre- 
lates followed, who were directed by them; and 
to alter and fubvert any Proteftant State and King- 
dcm, by this new modelling of them into fuch a 
popular Anarchy, as is now fuggefted and prefent- 
ed in the Army's Remonftrance. This I am af- 
fured will be the unavoidable, defperate, and de- 
plorable Iflue, if we comply with them and the 
Army in it, unlefs God in his infinite Mercy {hall 
hold off their Hands, and turn their Hearts, from 
profecuting their prefent Defigns. 

' I (hall only add one Thing more, and fo con- 
clude, That many of the Agitators and Army's 
Papers, efpecially Putney Projcfls, and fome late 
Declarations, favour of a Jefuit's Stile and Spirit ; 
that I have been credibly informed, that not only 
Gijford a Jefuit, was one of the General's own 
Life-guard, and a very active Man in the Army ; 
but one Thomas Budds, alias Peto, the laft Popifli 
Prieft, condemned at Newgate, was a Trooper in 
this Army ; and, by Influence of fome great Offi- 
cers in it, obtained a Reprieve inftead of an xei- 
cution ; that the Papifts beyond Seas wifh very well 
to the Army, in whom now is their ch.icf.cft Hopes ; 

that 



444 F&e Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. that the Jcfuits Cells and Colleges in foreign Parts 

, , are of late very empty ; that many Popifti Priefts 

December. ^ nc ^ J enj i ts are now in England, not faying Mafs, 
crying up the Pope and Popifti Tenets as hereto- 
fore ; no, that were too grofs, and they eafily difco- 
yered ; but ufingall Manner of mechanick Trades ; 
preaching in private Corners at Sectaries, Anabap- 
tifts, Seekers, Broachers of new Light, or as gifted 
Brethren ; that many of them are turned Troopers, 
Agitators, if not fome of them Officers, in the Ar- 
my ; or at leaft wife have fo infinuated themfelves 
into the leading Officers there, (who are much 
taken with their Parts, their new Defigns and Te- 
nets to. alter and unfettle States) that they have 
as powerful an Influence now upon the Army's 
Councils and Officers, as formerly they had upon 
the King and his Council ; and have now thus 
deeply engaged them, beyond all Expectation, to 
accomplim thofe Jefuitical Defigns of theirs, to de- 
pofe and deftroy the King ; diflblvethis Parliament ; 
fubvert our Magiftracy, Miniftry, Religion, Laws, 
Liberties, Government ; and eftablifh their Utopian 
new Model of Confufion in lieu of Parliaments and 
Regal Power ; thereby to accomplifh that now, 
which all their Popifh Confpiracies, Armies, and 
Confederates, from the Beginning of Queen Eliza- 
beth's Reign, could never yet effect by all their 
Treachery, Policy, and Power ; and how far they 
have proceeded and engaged the Army and Offi- 
cers unwillingly in it, out of honefl Intentions, we 
all now fadly behold to our great Amazement, even 
in this Inftant of Time when Ireland is in fuch im- 
minent Danger of being utterly loft. 

4 I befeech you, Mr. Speaker, let us lay this 
fpeedily to our Hearts, and go about to prevent it 
ere it be too late. If we vote the King's Anfwers 
now unfatisfadtory, and fo break off the Treaty 
with him, we have all our Hopes, our only Means 
of Peace and Settlement, and all thefe large Con- 
ceffions which the King hath granted both for our 
prefent and future Security ; our Monarchy, Ma- 
giftracy, Miniftry, Parliaments, Laws, Liberties, 

King- 



of E N G L A N t). 44$ 

Kingdoms, and that which is deareft to us, our An. 24 Car. 1. 

Religion alfo, endangered, yea loft at once ; and , t 

fuch a certain Foundation laid to carry on all thefe December. 
Jefuitical Defigns I have here difcovered, and that 
by Authority of this Houfe, as will ftain the Ho- 
nour of this moft glorious and renowned Parlia- 
ment to all Pofterity, and put a difhonourable fpee- 
dy Period to this and all future Parliaments for ever : 
But if we vote it fo far fatisfactory, as I have ftated 
it, and, humbly conceive, proved it fubftantially to 
every rational Man's Understanding and Confcience, 
as that we may lay prefent Hold upon it ; and pro- 
ceed therein without Delay, to turn all the King's 
Conceffions into Bills, which I have, for the mod 
Part, already drawn 5 and get the King's Royal 
Aflent unto them, I doubt not but, by God'a 
Bleffing on our Endeavours, we may, before this 
Month be ended, fettle fuch a firm and well- 
grounded Peace between the King and all his 
People and Kingdom, upon fuch honourable, fafe, 
and advantageous Terms for the Public Intereft, 
and fuch ftrong Securities, as no State or Kingdom 
ever yet enjoyed the like fmce the Creation. 

' And therefore, Mr. Speaker, upon this long 
and tedious Debate, (for which I moft humbly beg 
Pardon of the Houfe) being a Bufmefs of fuch in- 
finite Concernment to our prefent Weal or Ruin, 
I muft and do conclude, 'That the King's Anfwers- 
to the Propofitions of both Houfe s are fo far fatis~ 
factory at the leajl, as that this Houfe may, upori 
fafe and firm Grounds and great Advantages ^ forth- 
with accept of, mid immediately proceed upon^ them ', 
to the fpeedy Settlement of the Peace of the Kingdom ; 
and are bound both in Honour Prudence* Jujlice 9 
and Confcience fo to do^ to prefeme themfelves^ our 
three Kingdoms, and the Army too, from perpetual 
bloody Wars^ and inevitable impendent Defolatiott 
nd Confujion. 

This Speech, as Mr. Prynne himfelf informs us, 

fin an Appendix printed at the End of it) being 

uttered with much pathetic Serioufnefs, and heard 

5 with 



44-6 be Parliamentary H i s T b R 7* 

An. *4 Car. I. with great Attention, gave fuch general Satisfac- 
V .; 6 , 48 ' l ' on to l ^ e ^ ou ^ e > tnat man y Members, former - 
DecImbsrT ty ^ a contrar y Opinion, profefled they were 
both convinced and converted ; others, who were 
dubious in the Point of Satisfaction, that they were 
now fully confirmed ; rrioft of difFereut Opinion 
put to a Stand ; and the Majority of the Houfe de- 
clared, both by their chearful Countenances and 
their Words, (the Speaker going into the With- 
drawing-room to fefrefh hirftfelf, fo foon as the 
foregoing Speech was ended) that they were abun- 
dantly fatisfied by what had been thus fpoken : After 
this the Speaker refufning the Chair, Mr. Prynne's 
Arguments were feconded by many able Gentle- 
men. At length a Motion being made, That the 
previous Queftion fho'uld be put, it was carried in 
the Affirmative, by 140 Voices, againft 104, with 
the four Tellers (k], notw'ithftanding the General's 
and whole Army's March to Weftminjier, and Me- 
jiaces againft the Mem'bers, in cafe they voted foi^ 
the Treaty, and did not utterly reject it as unfatis- 
fadlory : . And then, without any Divifron. of thcS 
Houfe, it was refolved, 

The Commons i. That the Anfwers of the King to the Pro- 
"^^^pofitionsof both Houfes, are a Ground for the 
ar^a Ground "or Houfe to proceed upon for the Settlement of the 
fettiingthe Peace Peace of the Kingdom. And 
.of the Kingdom. ^ < That Mr ^ p; er p ; n f 9 Sir John Evelyn of 

Wits, Mr. Solicitor (/j, Col. Birch, Mr. /Jburft, 
Sir Thomas Widdrington, and Mr. Maynard, be 
appointed to repair to the Head Quarters thai Af- 
ternoon, to confer with the Lord-General and his 
Officers, for keeping and preferving a good Corre- 
fpondence between the Parliament and the Army/ 
After which the Commons adjourned till the 
next Morning. 

Mr. 

(i) In the Commons Journals the Numbers are only rag againft 83. 
The Tellers for the Queftion, Lord Cranbsrne [eldeft Son of the 
Earl of Salifiury] and Sir Ralph Ajhtom Againft it, Mr. Lijle and 
Mr. Stephens, Lord Clarendon 1 * Account of the Number of Mem- 
bers prefent agrees with Mr. Prynnit. 

(I) Edmund Prideaux, Efq. appointed Solicitor-General by th 
parliament, upon the Advancement of Oliver St. John, Ef<j. to be 
Chief Juflice of the Common-Pleas, in OSitber foregoing. 



of E N G L A N D. 447 

Mr. Prynne alfo remarks, That tho' this laft De-An. 24 Car. r, 

bate upon the King's Anfwer to the Parliament's , 1J ^ 8 ' t 

Propofitions had continued from Monday Morning, December, 
all the Night thro', and till Nine on Tuefday Morn- 
ing, Dec. 5, during which Time the Doors were 
never lock'd, yet that there were prefent in the 
Houfe, when fullcft, above 340 Members j but 
that many of them, through Age and Infirmities, 
could not hold out all Night, w hich was the Rea- 
fon of there being only 244 prefent when the pre- 
vious Queftion was put.' 

In the Proceedings of the firft of this Month, And the 
we mentioned, That the Earl of Northumbgr/ar.H'^^ e( 
having prefented to the Houfe of Lords the laft Pa- 
pers that pafTed between the King and the Com- 
miifioners in the Ifle of Jffght, their Lordfhips ap- 
pointed a Committee to take the fame into Conli- 
deratiori : And this Day, Dec. 5, the faid Com- 
mittee having made their Report, the Lords 
pafled the very fame Vote in favour of the Treaty 
as th Commons had done, (but with this Diffe- 
rence, viz. Nemine Contradicente) and then ad- 
journed to the 1 2th. 

We do not find that the Army took the lead 
Notice of this Unanimity of the Lords in their 
Vot upon the King's Conceflions; having pro- 
bably predetermined the Fate of that Houfe : They 
therefore refolved to let loofe their whole Refent- 
ment againft their Opponents in the Houfe of Com- 
mons : Accordingly 

The very next Day, Dec, 6, we find by the In Confequesce 
Journah, That the Commons being informed di-jJSj.SS* 
vers Members, coming to attend, were ftaid and fcverai Member* 
carried to the Queen's Court, or Court of Wards, * the H 
the Serjeant was commanded to go to them, and Common *' 
require them to come to the Houfe ; who being 
returned, faid, That the Members feemed wil- 
ling to confent, but that an Officer would not fuf- 
fer them to pafs till he had recivcd Orders about 
them, which he had fent for. 

This 



44$ *Tbe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24. Car. I. This Affair being the greateft Attack ever yet 
t _' * ' , made upon the Liberties of an Englijh Parliament^ 
December. we ^^ be as circumftantial as poffible in our Ac- 
count of it : In drder thereto it will be rieceflary, 
A particular firft* to exhibit an Extract from the Narratives 
Narrative of that thereof, as drawn up by the Imprifoned and Se- 
c j u <]ed Members themfe'lves, publifhed at the very 
Time of A6tion (w), in Vindication of their own 
Condul, and by way of Appeal to the Nation 
againft this unparallel'd Violence of the Army : 
We fhall, afterwards, take a View of what the Con- 
temporary Hiftoriahs have to add upon the Sub- 
ject 

Mr. Prytme, whom the Army feems to have 
been more particularly difgufted with than any 
other Member, on account of his foregoing Speech, 
writes thus (w), * The General and Officers of the 
Army, highly difpleafed with the Vote, That the 
King's Anfwers to the Parliament's Propofitions were 
ia Ground for them to proceed upon, for fettling the 
Peace of the Kingdom^ and with thofe Members 
who afiented to it, fent two or three whole Regi- 
ments of Horfe and Foot to Weftminjhr ;. fet a 
ftrong Guard at the Houfe's Doors, in the Lobby, 
Stairs, and at every Door leading towards them$ 
admitting none but Parliament-Men tlrcmfelves to 
enter into Wejlminfier-Hall^ or the back Stairs 
leading to the Court of Requefts, and excluding 
their Servants who attended them. Then CoL 
Pride, Col. Hewfon, and Sir Hafdrefs Waller, 
feized upon divers Members of the Commons 
Houfe; forhe at the Doors, others in the Lobby, 
and on the Stairs near the Houfe, without any 
'Warrant, or Reafon alledged, but their Sword and 

Power,- 

() A true and full Delation of the Officers ar.d Army's forcible 
feixieg of divers eminent Members of the Commam Houfe, December 
6, and 7, 1648. . 

A Vindication of the Imprisoned and Secluded- Membtrt cf tit 
Houfe of Comment, from the Ajferfton'. caft upon fben ar.d the Majo- 
rity of the Houfe. Printed for Mtcbael Spark, at the Blue Bibte irt 
Green Arbour. 

in] In the Appendix tb his Speech of December ^ containing feme 
Occurrences fmce, publifhed for the Kingdom's better Stisfac 

lion* 



^ENGLAND. 449 

Power, as they were going to clifcharge their Du-^"- 2 4 Car. 

ties. Among O'hers, Col. Pride feized upon . l643 ' 

Air. Pryrine going up the Stairs next the Houfe; December. 

and told him, Mr. Prynne, You muft not go Into 

the Houfe, but mtifl go c.long with me. Mr. Prynne 

returned for Anfwcr, That be ^uas a Member of 

ibe Hoi<j~f, and was going into it to dijcbarge bis 

Duty, from which no Man Jhouldor ought to hinder 

him; whither he would go, and he (the Colonel) 

jhoitld not keep him back ; and then thruft up a ftep 

or two more. Hereupon Col. Pride thrufting him 

down before, Sir ffftrdrtji Waller and others laying 

Hands on, and pulling him down forcibly behind, 

to the Court of Requefts great Door, Mr. Prynne 

thereupon demanded, By what Authority and Com- 

inijfion, and for what Caufe, they did thus violently 

feize en; and pull him down from the houfe ? To 

which Pride and Waller^ (hewing him their arm'd 

Soldiers ftandihg round about him with Swords, 

Mufquets; and Matches lighted, told .him, That 

there was their Conmijjion ; To which Mr. Prynne 

anfwered, Tliat they were no legal CommiJJion, ncr 

Caufe for them to feize vpm him, being a Member ; 

and openly protefted, That it was an high Breach 

cf the Privileges of Parliament, and an Affront t 1 ) 

the Houfe j dejiring the Standers~by to bear Jfftnejs 

if this Violence, and his Proiejlation againjl it j and 

that they, being more and jlronger than he, and all 

(irmd, and he unarm' d, they might forcibly carry him 

thither thi-y pleafid; butjlir he would not thence of 

his own Aaord: Hereupon they forcibly pu(hcd 

him up into the Queen's Court, where ibrric other 

Members, a little before feized, were kept Frifon- 

CTS by them. 

* The Houfe being informed by Mr. D:dJeridgf^ 
z Member, who came along with Mr. Prynne, of 
this Violence upon him, And the high Breach of 
Privelcgc, i,1 feizing him and other Members, 
lent the Serje.mt at Arms to demand them of the 
Captain th^t guarded them, and to command-theif 
prefent Attendance in the lion Pe; which Mefiage, 
though delivered by him, an '. uu- Prifoners requi-^ 
VOL. XVII i, rin;j 



450 ffie Parliamentary H i s T o R V 

An. 24 Car. I ring his Obedience, that they might accordingly 

164?. atrend the Houfc, was yet flighted and difobeyed : 

'" ,Y " ! ' Whereupon the Houfe ordered the Serieant a fe- 

Deteni&er. r ^ . j 

eond I ime to go with nis Mace, and demand 
the Members, and bring them into the Houfe 
forthwith, as refufmg to do any Bnfinefs till their 
Members were reftored j but Pride and his Con- 
federates ftaid the Serjeant in the Lobby, and would 
not fuffer him to go to them ; whereupon, return- 
ins; into the Houle, he acquainted them with the 
Contempt, which was entered in the 'Journal: 
And the Houfe concluded not to proceed till their 
Members were reitored ; and ftnt a Committee to 
the General to demand them. 

c Mr. Edward Stephens and Col. Birch, being in 
the Houfe, were fcnt for to the Door, by fon.e of 
tfee Officers, by falfe Tickets, and pulled out by 
Violence ; Col. Birch putting his Head within the 
Door, and crying out to the Speaker, Whether they 
would fuffer their Memhtrs to be pulled out thus 
violently before their Faces, and yet fitflill ? not- 
withftanding which the Officers ftill proceeded to 
feize more Members as they came to, or went 
from, the Houfe, carrying them all Prifoners to 
the Court aforefeid. 

* About Three in the Afternoon Hugh Peters (o), 
with a Sword by his Side, came ruminc in to fee 
the Prifoners and take a Lilt of their Names, by 
Older from the General, as he alledged ; where 
fome of them demanding of him, By what Autho- 
rity they were thus imprifoned and kept from their 
Duty? He anfwered, By the Power of the Sword \ 
and returning thither foon after, he releafed Sir 
Benjamin Rudyard and Mr. Nathanael Fiennes (as 
hefaid) by the like Power of the Sword. 

' Night drawing on, the Prifoners requefted the 
Captain who guarded them todefireCol. Pride to 
fpeak with them ; to the end they might know by 
what Authority, and for what Caufe, they were 

thu* 

(cJThe famous Independent Preacher, and at this Tim: one of 
Lord Fai'f*x"* Chaplains 



of E ft G L A N D. 451 

tfius detained by him, being Members. The A "- *+ Car. I. 

proud Colonel returned this Anfwer, 7 'hat he had, "^ 8 ~ t 

other Employment for the prefent, and could not wait December. 

upon them. Soon after. Hugh Peters, and forrie 

Officers, acquainted them that they fhould all be 

removed to Walling f or d-Houfe ; where they (hould 

have all fitting Accommodations provided for them, 

and the Lord-General Fairfax and Lieutenant- 

General 'Cromwell would come and fpeak with 

them, and that Coaches would be provided to carry 

them thither : Upon this AfTurance the Prifoners 

went all from the Queen's Court, to take Coach 

at the Lords Stairs ; where, Coaches attending 

them, inftead of being carried to Walllngfoni- 

Houfe, as was promifed and expected, they were 

ftayed at the Back-Gate of Hell, (a common Vic- 

tualling-houfe fo called) and there thruft all into 

the common Dining-room, and after that tranflatecT 

into two Upper Chambers. 

' When it grew late, Sir Robert Pye andfome fix 
more were offered Liberty to go to their Lodgings, 
being near, upon their Parole to appear before the 
General the next Morning; but they, conceiving 
it inconfiftent with the Privilege of Parliament, 
and a Prejudice to their Caufe, refufed to give any 
other Parole than to appear in the Houfe the next 
Morning ; which riot being accepted, they were 
all inforced to remain in Hell that Night, moft of 
them having no Beds to reft their Heads on, (tho' 
antient and infirm, and Gentlemen of Honour) but 
the Floor of the Room, and Benches and Chairs : 
Yet they patiently underwent this Affront and Du- 
refs in Hell itfrlf, (a Place culled out on purpofc 
for the fake of its Name, to rjut a more fignal 
Brand of Contempt and Infamy upon them and the 
Parliament) reading' and finging Pfalms to God, 
fpending molt of the Night in Difcourfes and 
Walking, without taking one Minute's Reft or 
Sleep. The Provoft-Marfhal, under whofe Cuf- 
tody they were unworthily put as Malefactors, was 
foamamed of this difhonourable Ufage, that, after 
ibine Conference 1 concerning it, he repaired to the 
F f 2 General, 



Parliamentary H i s T o & V 

>. 24 Car. I. General, at ffrbiteftaU, to acquaint him with it^ 

^ 8 " f and receive his further Order. 

December. e The next Morning, being Thurfda), Dec. ^, 
the Prifoners expecting the llFue, he returned to 
them about Eleven of the Clock, and acquainted 
them that it was the Lord-General's Pleafure they 
fhould all forthwith wait upon him and his Coun- 
cil of War at Whitehall, where he defired to con- 
fer with them : Hereupon they were prefently put 
into Coaches, and carried to Whitehall, like Trai- 
tors or Felons , with firong Guards of Horie and 
Foot attending them, and there brought into the 
King's Lodgings fafting, and tired out with watch- 
ing the Night before; where arriving about 
Twelve, they expected a prefent Anfwer : But 
their more than Royal new Excellencies took fo 
much State upon them as to make them wait their 
Leifure till it was Night, before they vouchsafed 
to fend them any Anfwer; at which Time, dif- 
daining to call the imprifoned Members in, or to 
honour them with their more than Lordly Pre- 
fence,they fent out three Officers to acquaint them 
with this dilatory Anfwer, 'Jhat ether intervenier.t 
/iffairs of great Concernment were now in agitation 
before the General and his Council, . fo as they could 
not admit them to their Presence that Night^ as was 
expecfed-y and that the General and his Council, for 
their better Accommodation, had given Order that 
they Jhould be lodgd at two Inns in the Strand, viz. 
the Swan and the King's-Head, for that Night; 
where they Jhould receive from them, the next Morn- 
ing, fame Propofititns to be conjidered of. After 
which the Provoft-Marfhal, taking the Names of 
thofe who were to be lodg'd at the King 1 s- Head, and 
of thofe who were to be conducted to the Swan y 
carried them ail Prifoners to the faid Inns, tho- 
rough the Streets, in the Dirt, on Foot, (except 
fome fix or feven only, who, being lame and aged, 
got a Coach) with a Muflcetteer attending upcji 
every one of them in particular, and a ftrong 
Guard marching before, behind, and on one Side 
of them, like fo many Traitors and capital Male- 

faftors. 



tf ENGLAND. 455 

Several of the Soldiery reviled the Mem- An. 24 Car. t. 

bers with opprobrious Speeches, as, That they had ^ f 

couzen'd the Kingdom of its Treafure, and them December. 

of their Arrears : To which the others replied, 

That they fhould make it appear to the Soldiers 

ere long, that their Arrears were in the Pockets 

of their Commanders, and the reft of their own 

Party. Being brought at laft to the two Inns be- 

ibie-mentioned, they had ftrong Guards fet upon 

rhem, and a Centinel at every Chamber Door all 

Night, 

* This Day alfo the Officers and Army fur^ 
rounded the Houfe in the fame Manner as on Wed- 
iiejday. Some of their Officers {landing at the 
Commons Door with a Lift of Parliament-Men's 
Names in their Hands, demanded every Member's 
Name as he came to the Door to enter the Houfe 5 
and thofe whofe Names were in their Lift they 
forcibly excluded and turned dovvn Stairs, though 
they earneftly prefied for Entrance ; and fome of 
them acquainting the Speaker, by Letter, with this 
high Affront and Breach of Privilege, could find 
no Redrefs ; the Officers admitting only fuch who 
were not in their Lifts. About forty' Members 
were, this Day, thus forcibly excluded, not impri- 
foned ; but Mr. Gawen was feized upon by one cf 
Col. Heuifon's Officers, at the Houfe ; Mr.Paughdn 
was apprehended at his own Lodgings ; and thefe 
two were carried Prifoners to. the Queen's Court, 
and from thence to. fffyitekflll to the reft of the 
imprifoned Members, who were there attending 
upon the General and his Council. Sir William 
Litton was likewife feized that Day and kept Pri- 
foner in Whitehall,, but afterwards releafed by Sir 
William Con/table's Order. The reft continued 
Prifoners feveral Days at the two before-mention- 
ed Inns, but were, by Degrees, either difcharged 
without any Caufe affign'd for their Commitment, 
or elfe removed to other Places of Confinement, 
where thcyremaincd many Weeks (f).' 

F f 3 Mr. 

(f) Mr. Prynr.e dates the Preface to his Speech, mid* Dec. 5, 
um tlie King's Iliad Tav:rn in the Strand, Jen. 16, 164.4-9. 




he Parliamentary HISTORY 

' Mr. Rujbworthznd Mr. Wbhlocke pafs over this 
Affair but curforily ; yet, fo far as they go, a^ree 
December. m tne in with tne foregoing Narratives. The 
former indeed has given the Names of 41 of the 
Members feiz'd on and imprifoned by the Army the 
6th of December^ but not of thofe who were fe - 
eluded from the Houfe, by the fame lawlefs Power, 
the next and following Days. And the latter in- 
forms us, That the Lord Grey of Grcoby (i) flood by 
Col. Pridty and told him the Names of the feve- 
ral Members as they came uptowards the Houfe, in 
prder for the Soldiery tp apprehend them. But 

Mr. Ludhzu afcribes to himfelf the fole Merit 
of the whole Contrivance of this Unconftitutional 
Project, with his Motives thereto, which we fh-11 
give in his own Words (k). 

4 The Treaty with the King being prefled with 
more Heat than ever, and aDefign vifibly appear- 
ing to render thereby all our Victories uielefs, by 
the Advice of fome Friends I went down.[in Au- 
gujl 1648] to the Army, which lay at that Time 
before Colchejler^ where I attended upon the Lord- 
General Fairfax, and told him. That a Deiign 
was driving on to betray the Caufe in which fo 
much of the People's Blood had been (bed; that 
the King, being under Reftraint, would not ac- 
count himfelf obliged by any Thing he fhould pro- 
jnife under fuch Circumftances ; affuring him, that 
inoft of thofe who pufhed on the Treaty with the 
greateft Vehemency, intended not that the King 
(hould be bound to the Performance of it ; but de- 
figned, principally, to ufe his Authority and Fa- 
vour in order to. deftroy the Army ; who, as they 
had aflumed the Power, ought to make the beft 
Ufe of it, and to prevent the Ruin of themfelves 
and the Nation. He acknowledged what I faid to 
be true, and ^declared himfelf refolved to ufe the 
Power he had, to maintain the Caufe of the Public, 
upon a clear and evident Call, looking upon hirn- 

fejf, 
(/) Eldeft Son of Henry Earl of Stamford, and Member for 

l.:i:cjiir. 

r.oirs, Vol. I. p. 162, to 270. 




of ENGLAND. 

fjf to be obliged to purfue the Work which he was 
about, Perceiving, by fuch a general Anfwer, 
that he was irrefolute, I went to CornmifTary-Ge- December. 
neral Ireton^ who had a great Influence upon him, 
and we difcourfed together upon the fame Subject; 
wherein we both agreed that it was neceftary for 
the Army to interpofc in this Matter, but differed 
about the Time: He being of Opinion, Thatit was 
be ft to permit the King and Parliament to make an 
Agreement, and to wait till they had made a full 
Difcoveryof their Intentions, whereby the People, , 

becoming fenfible of their own Danger, would 
willingly join to oppofe them : My Opinion was, 
That it would be much eafier for the Army to 
keep them from a Conjunction, than to oppofe 
them when united ; it being highly probable that 
the firft Things they would fall upon after their 
Union, would be fuch as were moft taking with 
the People, in order to oblige them to aflift in dtf- 
banding of the Army, under Pretence of leffening 
their Taxes : and then if the Army fhould, in any 
Manner, fignify a Diflike of their Proceedings, 
they would be efteemed, by the Majority of the 
People, to be Difturbers of the Public Peace, and 
accufed of defining nothing fave their own parti- 
cular Advantages. 

* Before the Conclufion of the Treaty, the Army 
having wonderfully difperfed their Enemies on 
every Part, began to confider how to fecure them- 
felves and the Common Caufe againft thofe Coun- 
cils that were carried on in Oppofiuon to them, 
under Pretext of making Peace with the King j 
and, to that End, drew up a Declaration at St. 
Albarfs, {hewing, that the Grounds of their firft 
Engagement was to bring Delinquents to Juftice \ 
that the King was guilty of the Blood (bed in the 
Juft and fecond War ; and that therefore they 
could not truft him with the Government. This 
they prefented to the Parliament on the 20th of 
November (p). The King and Parliament feeing this 
Cloud beginning to gather, endeavoured, by all 
F f 4 Means 

(f] It was prefentsd to the Commons only. 



456 ffle parliamentary HISTORY 

. 14. Car. I. Means poffible, to h^ften their Treaty to a Con- 
clufion ; the Army aifo were not wanting to fortify 
themfelvcs againft that Shock; fending fome of 
their own Number to thofe Members of Parlia- 
ment, whom they efteemed moft faithful to tne 
Common Caufe, to invite them clown to the Ar- 
ry, after they {hould, in a public Manner^have 
exprefied their Diflatisfaclicn st the Proceedings of 
thofe who had betrayed the Trull rcpofed in them 
by the good People of. England, and declared that, 
finding it impoffible to be' any farther feiviceable in 
Parliament, they had refolved to repair to the Ar-- 
my, in order to procure their Affiftance in fettling 
the Government of the Nation upon a juft Foun- 
dation. . At a Meeting of fome Members of Par- 
liament with the f<iid Officers from the Army, it was 
refolved, That, tho' the. Way propofid by them 
mi'^ht be taken, in cafe all other Means failed ; 
yet, feeing there was more than a fu indent Num- 
ber of Members in the Parliament to make a 
Houfe, who were moft affectionate to the Public 
Caufe,. it would b- more proper for the Army to 
relieve them from thofe who rendered them ufelefs 
to the Public Service, thereby preferving the. Name 
and Place of a Parliament, than for the Members 
thereof to quit their Stations wherein tney were ap-^ 
pointed to ferve ; and fo leave the Civil Authority 
in the Hands of thofe, who would be ready to fall 
in with any Power that would attempt tofruftrate 
what {hould be agreed on by them and the Army. 
Our Memorialift then proceeds to inform us, 
4 That [on the 5th. of December] the Commons 
having refolved that the King's Conceflions were a 
Ground for future Settlement, fome Members, dif- 
fatisfied with that Vote, defired their Proteftation 
might be entered ; but that being demed, as againft 
the Orders of the Houfe, he [Air. Ludlow'] content- 
ed himfelf with declaring publickly, That being 
convinced the Majority of the Houfe had deferted 
the Common Caufe and Intereftof the Nation, he 
could no longer ioin with them ; and that the reft 
p/.thofe who diffented alfo, expreiled themfelves 

inuch 



ef ENGLAND. 457 

to the fame Purpofe. Hereupon fome of the An. 24 Car. 
principal Officers of the Army came to London, 
With Expectation that Things \vould be brought to 
this Iffue; and, confulting v^itii fome Members of 
Parliament and others, it was concluded, after a 
full and free Debate, That the Mcafures taken by 
the Parliament were contrary to tile Truft re- 
pofed in them, and ter.dir.g to contract the Guilt 
of the Blood, that had b.'cu ih?d, upon themfelves 
and the Nation; that it was therefore the Du- 
ty of the Army to endeavour to put a Sro;) to 
ifi:ch Proceedings, having engaged in the War 
not ilmply as Mercenaries, but out of Judgment 
and Confcience; being convinced That the Caufe 
In which they were engaged was juft, and that 
the Good of the People was involved in it. 

' Being come to this Refoluticn, three of tbe 
Members of the Houfe, and thr^e of the O&cers 
of the Army, withdiew into a private Room, to 
confider of the belt Means to attain the Ends of the 
faid Refolution ; where they agreed that the Army 
iihould be drawn up the next Morning, and Guards 
placed in We/lin'mlter-Hall, the Court of Requefts, 
and the L^bby ; that none might be permitted to 
pafi into the Houfe but fuch as had continued faith- 
ful to the Public Intereft. Accordingly Com mi f* 
iary-Cjeneral Ireton went to the L/ord Fairfax, and 
acquainted him with the Neceffity of this extraor- 
dinary Way of proceeding, having taken Care to 
have the Army drawn up the next Morning by 
Seven of the Clock.' 

The Particulars of what follqwcd hereupon ha- 
ving been already given, we now return to the 
Commons Journals : Thofe Authorities inform us,, 
that whilft the Houfe was debating on the Sei- 
zure of their Members, and had appointed a Com- 
mittee to go to th$ General and expoftujate the 
Matter with him, they were informed that there 
was a Meftage from his Excellency at the Door, 
fcnt by Lieutenant -Colonel Axtel and fome more 
Pfficers. Thefc Mcflcngers, being called in, ac- 
quainted 




December. 



The Parliamentary HISTORY 

quainted theKoufe, That they were commanded* 
by the Lord-General and the General Council o^ 
Officers, to let the Houfe underftand that they had 
fomething to deliver to them this Morning, of very 
high Concernment, which would be prefently rea- 
dy tor their View. Soon after came Col. Jrkatey 
to the Houfe, and prefented a Paper to them, 
which bore the following Title : 

To the Honourable the COMMONS of ENGLAND, 
in Parliament a 



Ptopcfals fixm 
the Army, ac- 
cufing Denzil 
Hoiks, Efq ; and 
others, of Fac- 
tion, and Perfo- 
nal Jnterefl-, 
prefented to the 
Houfe of Com- 
nxmsj 



The HUMBLE PROPOSALS and DESIRES of his 
Excellency the Lord FAIRFAX and the General 
Council of Officer $) December 6, 1648, in order 
to a fpeedy Profecution of Jujtice^ and the Set- 
tlement formerly propounded by thc>m. 

HAving, with others, for a long while fadly 
beheld and tafted, in your Proceedings, the 
miferable Fruits of Councils divided and corrupt- 
ed by Faction and perfonal Intereft, even to the 
neglecting, betraying, and cafting away all Pub- 
lic Good ; to the Lengthening out of endlefs 
Troubles, Burdens, and Damage j to the Conti- 
nuance and widening of that IfFue of Blood, where- 
by thefe Nations have been fo long polluted and 
confumed ; and to the perpetual Hazard, Bon- 
dage, and Deftru6Hon of them at laft : And fee- 
ing no other or better Way, we propound and 
demand as followcth: 

i. Whereas Denzil Holies, Efq ; Lionel Copley, 
Efq j Major-General Maffey, and others of your 
Members whofe Names you well know, were, 
in 1647 ( a )t impeached by us for Treafon, or for 
high Crimes and Mifdemeanours, in relarion to 
the treafonable Engagement in the City of Lon- 
don ; the Violence then done upon the Parli;*- 
ment ; the levying of a new War, and other E- 
vils in Maintenance and Profecution thereof ; and, 



upon 



(^ Vol. XVI. p. 



of ENGLAND. 459 

* upon clear Proofs againft them, were, by your An. 24 Car. \. 
4 Cenfure, expelled the Houfe, and difabled from ^ l6 4- 3 ' 

* further Truft therein; and, upon new Writs if- 

* fucd out, new Members were chofen andreturn- 

* ed in fome of their Places j and, yet, by the Pre- 
' valence of their Faction, when in the laft Sum- 

* mer's Wars divers faithful Members were en- 
' g a e d abroad upon necelFary public Service, and 
6 others, through malignant Tumults and Diftur- 
' bances, could not fafcly attend the Houfe, the 

* fame'Perfons were afterwards re-admitted to fit 

* in the Houfe and vote as formerly, without any 

* Trial or Satisfaction in the Things whereof they 

* were accufed: We demand that all thofe Mem- 

* beis fo impeached may be forthwith fecured, and 

* brought to Juftice ; and fuch others as are of 

* their Fa6lion may be fecluded from the Houfe. 
2. * Whereas, by the Confederacy of Major - 

* General Brown, now Sheriff of London, with the 

* faid impeached Members and others, the Scots 

* were invited and drawn in to invade this King- 
' dom the laft Summer ; infomuch as when, up- 

* on their actual Invafion, the Houfe proceeded to 

* declare them Enemies, and thofe that adhered to 

* them Traitors ; yet the faid Confederates, and 

* other treacherous Members, to the Number of 
' ninety and odd, as upon the Divifion of the Houfe 
< appeared, did, by their Counfcls and Votes, en- 
deavour' to hinder the Houfe from declaring a- 
4 gainft their confederate Invaders : We dcfire that 

* the faid Major General firown maybe alfo fe~ 

* cured and brought to Judgment; and that the reft 
'. of the ninety and odd Pcrfons, diflenting againft 

* the faid Vote, may be excluded the Houfe. 

3. ' Whereas, in a continual Series of your 
' Proceedings for many Months together, we have 
' fccn the Prevalence the fame treacherous, cor- 

* rupt, and divided Counfels, through Factions and 

* private Interefls, oppofmg or obftrucling Juftice 
' in all Kinds, diverting your Counfels from any 
' Thing of Public Good, hindering any Proceed - 
f in^s to any fuch Settlement as would confift with 

< Sej 



460 be Parliamentary- Hi s T o R v 

An. 14 Gar. I. c Security to'the Public Intereft, or put a real End 

t **&" * to the Troubles, Burdens, or Hazards of the 

December. ' Kingdom; and precipitating into treacherous and 
' "deftrucltive Compliances and Conjunctions with 
' the acknowledged Enemies thereof, as in the Votes 

* of No more Addrejjes to the King, &c, the Juft- 
4 nefs and Neceffity whereof you had once fo clear- 
' ed to the "World ; alfo in the Votes for entertain- 
' ing or feeking after all that Perfonal Treaty with 

* the King ; and, laftly, in the Votes declaring his 
' paft Conceffions to be a Ground for the Houfe to 
' proceed upon for the Settlement of the Peace of 

* the Kingdom, notwithstanding the vifible Infuf- 
' ficiency and Defects of them in Things eflentially 

* neceflary concerning the Public Intereft and Li- 
c berties of the Kingdom, as thofe propounded in 

* our late Remonftrance are, and in otker Matters 

* both Religious and Civil : We therefore moft ear- 
' neftly defire, that all fuch faithful Members who 
' are innocent in thefe Things, would immediate - 
' Iy 4 by Proteftation and public Declaration, ac- 

* quit themfelves from the Guiltof any Concurrence 
c in the feveral Votes or Counfels here before par- 

* ticularly mentioned, as corrupt or deftru&ive, 
' that the Kingdom may know who they are that 
' have kept their Truft ; and fo diftinguifli them- 
felves from the reft that have thus falfified the 
4 fame ; and-that all fuch as cannot, or flaall not fa 
' acquit themfelves particularly, may be immediate- 

* ly excluded or fufpended the Houfe ; and not re-? 

* admitted untill they have given clear Satisfac- 
' tion therein to the Judgment of thofe who now 

* fo acquit themfelves, and the Grounds of fuch 
6 Satisfaction be publifhed to the Kingdom. 

4. * Thus fuch, as by Faithf-ulnefs have retain- 
ed their Truft, being fet in a Condition to purfue 
' and perform the fame, without fuch Interrup- 
6 tions, Diverfions, and Depravities of Counfels, as 
' formerly, we {hall defire and hope you will 
' fpeedily and vigoroufly proceed, to take Order for 
1 the Execution of Juftice j to fet a fhort Period 

* to your own Power ; and to provide for a fpeedy 

4 Sue- 



^ENGLAND. 4 6t 

Succeflion of equal Reprefentatives, according to An. 24 Car. I* 

our late Remonftrance ; whereby the Differences v 

in the Kingdorh may be ended, and we and o- December. 

thers may comfortably acquiefce, as for our Parts 

we hereby engage and allure you we {hall. 

By the Appointment of his Excellency the Lord 
Fairfax^ Lord General \ and his General Coitn- 

JO. RUSHWORTH. 

Dec. 7. The firft Thing done in the Houfe of Who order their 
Commons this Day, was to orderthe Speaker to re- Thanks to Lieu- 
turn their hearty Thanks to Lieutcnant-Generalcrom'well^for 
Crcmwdl, then prefent, for the very great and em i- his Services in 
nently faithful Services performed by him to this Scocland * 
Parliament and Kingdom, both here and ii^Scot- 
land\ which the Speaker did accordingly. This 
Order was in Confequence of a Motion of Mr. 
Henry Marten. Mr. Ludlow remarks, That 
Cromwell did not come to London till the Night 
after the firft Interruption of the Houfe by the Ar- 
my ; and that he publickly declared he had not 
been acquainted with that Defign ; yet, fmce it 
was done, he was glad of it, and would endeavour 
to maintain it. 

* After this Compliment paid to Cromwell, Mr. 
Pierepoint, one of the Committee appointed to 
go to the Lord-General Fairfax, delivered four 
Papers, as the Subftance of the Conference with 
him the Day before, for the Difcharge of the Mem- 
bers, which were read. And firft, 

The Paper from the. Committee to the General: 

December 6, 1648. 

"X17E having Command, from the Houfe of Report of a Con- 
Commons, to let your Excellency know fer ^ nce b< : tween 
that divers of their Members are this Day taken fha^Houfe^nd 
and detained by fome Officers and Soldiers of the Lord-Gene- 
your Excellency's Army, it is the Pleafure of the 1 rl Jj ir |jJ j con " 
Houfe they be difchargecl ; for which we dcfircj"2d MCO!" 
your Excellency's prefent Order that it may 
done accordingly.' 

This 




December; 



The Parliamentary HISTORY 

This produced the following Anfwer, fign'd by 
Mr. Ritjhworth, in the Name of the Lord-Gene- 
ral and his Council of Officers : 

* Having feen the Order upon which your laft 
Paper is given in, we do not conceive it to be the 
pofitive Pleafure of the Houfe of Commons that 
their Members be difcharged : But concerning 
their Difcharge, for which you are appointed 
to confer, fo foon as we fhall receive the Refolu- 
tions of the Houfe upon that Paper, this Day fent 
in by us to them, which concerns thofe Perfons 
detained, we fhall then be prepared to give you 
anfwerable Satisfaction in relation to that Par- 
ticular/ 



ply: 



is the Committee made the following Re- 



In Anfwer to your Paper now delivered, where- 
in you do refer to one lent by you to the Com- 
mons ; we affirm that, fince the reading of that 
Paper by the Houfe, it was exprefs'd by them to 
be their pofitive Pleafure, that the Members this 
Day taken and detained by fo'me of the Officers 
and Soldiers of the Army under your Excellency's 
Command, be forthwith difcharged : And there- 
fore we do infift that, according to our former 
Paper, the faid Members be forthwith difchar- 
ged accordingly.' 

To this pofitive Demand of the Committee for 
the Releafe of their Members, the General fent 
the following peremptory Refufal, fign'das before: 
"- In Return to your laft Paper concerning your 
infifting on the Difcharge of the Members, we 
refer to our former Anfwer ; and have no more to 
fay to that Particular, till ve receive the Rcfo- 
lutions of the Houfe upon ou: Paper, this Day 
fent to them/ 

The fame Day the Commons received Letter*. 
dated Wejlminjler^ Dec. 7, from Sir Thames Dacfes\ 

Sir 



cf E N G L A N D. 463 

Sir Edward Pqrteriche, Sir Martin Lumky, Sir John An. 24 car. I. 
TtnijJe, Sir Thomas Middleton, Mr. George Booth, 6 4 8- 
Mr. Dodderidge, Mr. Thomas Wdler, Mr. Sa- v Dece tf mbef * 
wza*/ Gar diner i Mr. /#y Thsmas, and Mr. Arthur 
Owen, fignifying their being prevented from at- 
tending their Duty in the Houfe by the Soldiery. 
After reading thefe Letters, a Motion being made 
for proceeding upon the Propofals from the Army, 
it was carried in the Affirmative by 50 againft 28. 
Hereupon thofe Members who were of the Mino- 
rity, we are told (A), left the Houfe, refolving to come 
no more till Juftice was done to their abfent Bre- 
thren : An AfTertion in fome Meafure confirmed by 
the Journals; fmce, tho' we meet with many Di- 
viljons betwixt this Time and the Beheading of 
the King, yet there is not one Inftance, during 
that Period, in which the Number of Members 
prefent exceeded 53. 

Dec. 8. This Day had been appointed by the A Dj rf H ; 
Houfe of Commons as a Day of Humiliation, Faft- nation obfervcU 
ing, and Praying, to be kept in their Houfe: Af- 
ter which we find that they ordered the Serjeant to 
make a charitable Collection amongft the Mem- 
bers, to be fent to the Treafurers for poor and 
maimed Soldiers, to be diftributed by them to the 
Widows and Wives of thofe that flood in the 
greateft Want and Neceflity. The Minifters for 
the Day were Mr. Marjhal, Mr. Peters, and 
Mr. Carrol, all Independents, who had the Thanks 
of the Houfe given them for their Sermons. And 
then the Commons adjourn'd to the i2;h, as the 
Lords had done before. 

On the gth of this Month a Committee from the 
Common Council of the City of London made fome 
Propofals to the General and Council of the Ar- 
my, touching their Security for 40,000 /. in part 
of the Arrears due from them to the Army (which, 
the General had demanded of them in his Letter 
of the 30th of laft Month, and they then promifed 

to 
(b) In the Rthtio* before quctcd, at p . 448. 



464 ST& Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I. to advance) ; and thereupon humbly defired that the* 

_ f Army might immediately withdraw out of the Ci- 

December. { 7' To which the General gave for Anfwer, 

That ifj within fourteen Days, they would pay in 

Some additional their whole Arrears, their Requeft fhould be grant- 

feS^ondT ed ' and > in the mean Time > the Soldiery being 
City of London, quartered there, would facilitate the Work. .Ac- 
toguirken the cordingly, befides the Foot then billeted in private 
**^\ ^"'Houfes, and the Horfe in Inns, two more Regi- 
Army. ments of Foot, and fame Troops of Horfe march'd 

into t-he City, and were quartered in the fame 

Manner upon the Citizens. 

Dec. 12. The Commons being met; purfuant 
to Adjournment, they proceeded upon the Propo- 
fals and Defires of the Army, which were read a 
fecond Time; but the Refult, contained in feve- 
ral Claufes, we are told by the Editor of the printed 
Journals, were obliterated by an Order of March 
the fecond, 1659: However, thefe Votes we are 
enabled to fupply, the Houfe having ordered them 
to be printed and publifhed about a Month after the 
pafling of them, a Copy of which is rn our Collec- 
. tions, as follows (k): 

The Commons Refolved, i. ' That the Votes of the yth and 

SSefdutionr 8th of J 3aft (0, hr Coking the Orders of the 

for reftoring the Jtb and gth of September, and the 1~/th of January, 

impeachMMem- 164.7, di fabling Commtjjary Lionel Copley, and alfi 

oPin'g^Trelty 06 " 7 -' 1 Holies, Efq ; Sir Philip Stapyl tor; ftrWil- 

with the Kbg, J-iam-Lewis, Sir John Clotworthy, Sir William Wai- 

in 1647. } er , Sir John Maynard, ,CoL Edward MafTey, Johrr 

Glynne, Efq ; Mr. Walter Long, Col. Edward Har- 

ley, and Anthonv Nichol, Efq ; from being Members 

of this Houfe, was of a dangerous Confequence, 

rending to the Deftru&ion of the Juftice and Peace 

of this Kingdom; and is hereby repealed. 

2. * That the Vote of the 30th of June laft, 
whereby this Houfe did concur with the Lords,- 

That 

(k) Printed by Edward Uujbandi, Printer to the Honourable Houfe 
of Commons, January, 18, 164.8. 

Thefe Votes are alfo preferred by Mr. Ruftrwortb, Mr. Wli'- 
hcke, and Mr. Walker, tho' fomewhat incorrcftly. 

(/) For the Debars hereupon, fee Volume XVH, p zzC, etft%. 



of E N G L A N D, 465 

'lhat, for opening a Way towards a Treaty with his An> 24 Car. I. 
Majejly for a fafe Peace, the Votes of the ^ of Ja- t * 6 +* m _. 
nuary, 1647, forbidding all Addrejfes to be made to December. 
or from the King, be taken off, was hi-hly diflio- 
nourable to the Proceedings of Parliament, and ap- 
parently deftruclive to the Good of the Kingdom.' 

This Day alfo, December I2 Major-General ,, . 

_, i , ' * t TT/- X/~i Major-deneral 

Browne, a Member of the Houfe of Commons, Brown, and four' 
and one of the Sheriffs of London^ was fetch'd out Members more 
of the City by a Party of Horfe, and carried be- foiwmo st P "~ 
fore the Council of War at Whitehall, where he James's, by ON 
told them, He knew they had nothing to charge JerofLord f?it* 
him withall, but his honeft Endeavours to preferve c ax 
his Majefty and his Pofterity, together with the 
Parliament, City, and Kingdom, with the Laws and 
Government thereof, from being rooted up by 
them; and that he feared them not.' For which 
Col. Hcwfon told him, ' He was too peremptory/ 
At length they committed him Prifoner to St. 
James's Houfe. Marmal-General Lawrence was 
alfo fent to Sir William Waller, Sir John Clotworthy, 
Major-General Majfey, and Commiflary Lionel Cop- 
fey, Members of the Houfe of Commons, then Pri- 
foners at the King's Head Inn in the Strand, to ac- 
quaint them, * That he had Orders from the Lord - 
General and Council of the Army, to remove 
them, from the other Prifoners to SI. James'f;' 
They defiring to fee his Orders, the Marfhal an- 
fwered, ' They were only verbal;' but the Gen- 
tlemen infifting to fee a Warrant for their Remo- 
val, the Marftial went to the General, and about 
Six o'Clock brought the following Order : 

To Marftial-General LAWREKCE. 

/ y*OU are, upon Sight hereof, to remove Sir Wil- 
* liam Waller, Sir John Clothworthy, Major" 
General Maffey, and Colonel Copley, from the 
King's Head Inn, inhere they are now in Cuftody, 
to St. James's, and for fo doing this Jhall be your 
Warrant. 

Given under my Hand, Dec. 12, 1648. 

FAIRFAX. 
"Vol. XVIII. G g This 



466 7/& Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24 Car. I, Tj,; s Order being fhewn to the afore aid Gert- 
t _ 4 , tlemen, Sir /ra/Vwi /P*/Ar produced a Paper, de- 
December, firing c That the fame might be prefeated to the 
General ;' which Marmal Lawrence refufing to re- 
ceive, Sir JrilGam and the other three delired him, 
and all the Gentlemen there prefent, to attend and 
witnefs to that Proteftation which they did there 
make in Behalf of themfelves, and all the Com- 
mons and free-born Subjects of England', and then 
with a diitinct Voice, read it as follows : 

King*s-Head in the Strand. 

Their Prot-fta- Tfi^E whofe Names are hereunto fn'hfcribed^ being 
Members of the Houfe of Commas, and Free- 
men of England, do hereby declare and proteft before 
God, Angels, and Men, 'That the General and Of- 
ficers of the Army, being raifed by the Authority of 
Parliament, and for Defence and Maintenance of the 
Privileges thereof, have not, or ought to have, any 
Power or Jurifdiflion to apprehend, fccurc, detain^ 
imprifon, or remove, our Perfons from Place to Place 
by any Colour or Authority whatfoevcr ; nor yet to que- 
Jtion or try us, oranyofus, by Martial Law or other* 
wife, for any (Dff'ence or Crime tvhgtfoever, which can 
or Jkall be objected again/I us : And that the prefent 
Iwprifonment and Removal of our Perfons is a high 
J'lolation of the Rights and Privileges of Parliament, 
and of the fundamental Laws of thj Land, and a 
higher Ufurpation and Excrcife of an arbitrary and 
unlawful Power , than hath been heretofore pi\ tended 
to, or attempted, by this cr any King, or other Power 
r ivhaifie r t>er, within this Realm : Notiuithjlanding 
which we, and every of us, do declare our Readi- 
nefs to fubmit our/elves to the legal Tri(d of a free 
Parliament \ far any Crime or Mifdemeanor that can 
cr Jhall be objeEled againjl us. 

In Witnefs whereof we have hereto fubfcribeJ 

our Names, Dec, 12, 1648. 
WILLIAM WALLER, EDWARD MASSEY (g) 9 
JOHN CLOTWORTHY, LIONEL COPLEY. 

About 

. (g) This Gentleman, foon after, made his Efcape into Holland, 
and prefented himfclf to the Prince ot' Wales. 




(/ENGLAND. 

About this Time Mr. Henry Pelham, Mr. 'Lane, An - 

Mr. Faughan, and Sir Symmonds D'Ewes were fet v ^_ 

at Liberty without any Engagement, altho' atfirft it December, 
was demanded, ' That they fhould promife not to 
attempt any Thing againft the prefent Actings of 
this Parliament and Army ;' which they refufed. 

It may not be improper, in this Place, to exhi- 
bit a Lift of the Members of the Houfe of Com- 
mons imprifoned or fecluded by the Army (h], at dif* 
ferent Times, fince the Vote of the 5th of De- 
cember^ declaring the King's Conceffions to be a 
Ground for fettling the Peace of the Kingdom; 
together with the Names of the Counties, Cities, 
and Boroughs for which they ferv'd in Parliament. 

MEMBERS IMPRISONED. ^rf^i. 

COIonel John Birch, Leominjler. 5> nc J an u d feclu - 

cr't J r> j r*f Tfs -in- dcJ by the Army. 

Thomas Bcugmon, Efq. fyanvickjbire. 

Maj. Gen. Richard Browne , Wicombe. 

John Bulkle^ Efq. Newton , Hants. 

Francis Butter, Efq. Eaftlow. 

Sir Henry Cholmley, Knt. Northallcrton> 

Sir John Clotworthy, Knt. Maiden. 

CommilTary Lionel Copley^ Bojffiney. 

John Crew, Efq. Brack ley. 

Sir Symmonds D'Ewes, Knt. ] Sudb 

and Bart. J 

Francis Drake, Efq. Amerjham. 

Sir Walter Erie, Knt. Weymoutb. 

Nathanacl Fiennes, Efq. B anbury. 

Sir Gilbert Gerrard, Bart. MtddleJ'ex. 

Francis Gerrard, Efq. Sea ford. 

Thomas Gawen, Efq. Launcejlon. 

Giles Green, Efq. Cotfe-Ca/lle, 

Har bottle Grimjlone, Efq. Colchcjlcr. 
Sir Robert Harley, Knt. of the "j 

Bath, \Hereford/hirc. 

Colonel Edward Harley, ] 

Major Robert Harley, Radnor, 

G g 2 Sir 

(i)Extraaed from the fcvcral Pamphlets publiJheJ by tl.emWve* 
In their own Viiidicauoa. 



7^ "Parliamentary HISTORY 



Sir Anthony Irby, Knt. 
Richard Knight ley, Efq. 
December. Thomas Lane, Eiq, 

Colonel Edward Leigh, 
Sir William Lewis, Bart. 
Sir Martin Lyjler, Knt. 
Sir William Litton, Knt. 
Sir Samuel Luke, Knt. 
Maj. Gen. Edward Majjey, 

Sir 7 Merrick, Knt. 

Sir Richard Or/low, Knt. 
Henry Pelham, Efq. 
William PrieJIly, Eiq. 

William Prynne, Efq, 

C' D ? T> V 

bir Robert Pye, Knt. 
Sir Bejamin Rudyard, Knt. 
Sir Thomas Soame, Knt. 
Edward Stepbtm, Efq. 
William Strode, Efq. 
y0/>fl Svtinfen, Efq. 
Charles Faughan, Efq. 
EdivardVaughan, Efq. 
Sir William Waller, Knt. 
Clement Walker^ Efq. 
Thomas Lord Vifc. 
William Wheeler, Efq ; 



Bojio 



Stafford. 

Petersjield. 

Bradley. 

Hertford/hire. 

Bedford. 

Wooton-BaJfit. 
[ Newcajile, StafforJ- 
\ jlnre. 

Surrey. 

Grant/jam. 

St. Mawet. 
f Newport, Corn- 
wall* 

Wood/tock. 

Wilton. 

London. 

Tcwkftwry. 

Ilchejler. 

Stafford. 

Honyton. 

Montgomeryjhire. 

Andover. 

Welh. 

Oxfordjhire. 

Wejlbury. 



MEMBERS SECLUDED. 



Sir Edward Afccugh, Knt. 
Ralph AJhion, Efq. 
Matthew Allen, Efq. 
John Alford,E^. 
John AJhe, Efq. 
Sir John Bjurgcygne, Bart. 
Colonel 'John Barker, 
Michael Biddtdph, Efq. 

Peter Brooke, Efq; 

George Booth, Efq. 
Morris Barrow, Efq. 



Lincoln/hire. 
v Clithero. 

Weytnouth. 

Shoreham. 

Wejlbury., 

Warwickflnre. 

Coventry. 

Litchfield. 
f Newton , Lanca- 
\ Jbire.\ 

Chcjhire. 

Eye. 



Sir 



of ENGLAND. 



469 



Sir Ambrofe Browne, Bart. 
"James Campbell, Efq. 
dirjehn Corbet, Bart. 
Edward Lord Clinton, 
Sir John Curzon, Bart. 
Sir Thomas Dacres, Knt. 
Colonel William Davies, 
John D odder idge, Efq. 
William Ellis, Efq. 
Thomas Erie, Efq. 
William Edwards, Efq. 



William Foxwifl Efq. 
Thomas Grove, Efq. 
Thomas Gel/, Efq. 
Framlingham Gawdy, Efq. 
Samuel Gardiner, Efq. 
J^fl Harris, Efq. 
Herbert Haye, Efq. 
Peregrine Hobby, Efq. 
;70 Hokrofte, Efq. 
George Homer, Efq. 
Thomas Hodges, Efq. 
Henry Hungerford, Efq. 
Denzil Holies, Efq. 
Francis Holies, Efq. 



Colonel 

Robert Jenner, Efq. " 

Richard Jennings, Efq. 

Sir Norton Knatchbull, Bart. 

Colonel John Lloyd, 

Sit Olive* Luke, Knt. 

Henry Lucas, Efq. 

Sir William Lifter, Bart. 
Capell Luckyn, Efq. 
Sir Martin Lumley-K.t; 
Sir Nicholas Martin, Knt. 
Sir Thomas Middleton, Knt. 
Thsmas Middleton, Efq. 



Surrey. 

Grampound. 

Shrapjfnre. 

Michell. 

Derbyjhire. 

Hertfordjhire. 

Carmarthen. 

Barnjiaple. 

So/Ion. 

Wareham. 



Carnarvon. 

Milborne-Port* 

Derby. 

Thetford. 

Evejham. 

Launcejlon 

Arundel. 



Wigm. 

Simerfetfhire. 

Crickladf. 

Bedwin. 

Dorchefter. 

Lejhuithiel. 

Beaumaris. 

Stockbridge. 

Cricklade. 

St. Alban's. 

Romney. 

Carmarthen/hire. 

Bedford/bfre. . 

{Cambridge Uni- 
verfity. 
Retford. 
Ilarwicb. 



Devon/hire. 
Denbigh/biff, 



An. 14 Ci.r. I. 

1648. 

t _ . 

December. 



47 

An. 24 Car. I. 
1648. 

Pecember, 



Wmchelfea. 

Bramber. 

Pembrokejhire. 

Gatton. 

BerealJJon. 

Chichejler. 



Parliamentary HISTORY 

Job 'i Neltborp, Efq. Beverley. 

Sir Dudley North, Knt. and Bart.CambridgeJbire. 

Sir Robert Needham, Knt. Haverford-WeJl. 

John Najh, Efq. Worcejler. 

Sir Robert Napier, Knt. and Bart, Peterborough. 

Sir Roger North, Knt. 

Henry Oxenden, Efq. 

Arthur OnJJow, Efq. 

Arthur Owen, Efq. 

William Owjield, Efq. 

Cbarle* Pymme, Efq. 

#flyf*,'Efq. 

Sii-y^nP^rflw,Kt. 
Sir P/7/> Ptfr&r, Knt. 
S i r William Playters, Kt. 
7V/; Pelham, Efq. 

Sir AW/ PW*, Knt. 
Edward foole, Efq. 
Sir Edward Parteriche, Knt. 
Sir TJmnas Parker, Knt. 
Thomas Povey, Efq. 

* Packer, Efq. 

jR/c/j, Efq. 

Spelman, Efq. 

)hn Seymour, Knt. 

Sir William Spring, Bart. 

Simon Snsw, Efq. 
Tbomas'Sandys, Efq. 
George Skutt, Efq. 
Sir Thomas Trevor, Kn,t. 
/>;;* Theloall, Efq. 
Thomas Thynne, Efq 



Sir JW;?z T^/w/)/^, Knt. 
Thomas Temple, Efq^ j 
j^ Thomas, Efq. 

Samuel Terrick, Efqt 

Sir Humphrey Tuft on, Knt. 
Thomas, Efq. 

aJ/a!, Efq, 



Hajlings, 
Suffix. 

Malm/bury. 

Wooton-Bajfit. 

Sandwich. 

Seaford. 

Lejkard. 

Wallingford. 

Sandwich. 

CaJlle-Rifing. 

Gloucefterflnre. 
\ St. Edmund' s-Bu- 
1 ry. 

Exeter. 

Gatton. 

Poole. 

Tregony. 

Denbigh. 

Svlta/h. 

Cb'Mer. 

Huntingdon. 

Hel/lon. 

1 Newcajlle, Staf- 
j " fordjhire. 

MaidJJone. 

BiJkop's-Caftle. 

London. 




of ENGLAND. 

Edward Jl'lngate, Efq j St. Allans. 

John-lFbaJdtt 9 Efq; Plymouth. 

Thomas Il/aller, Efq ; Bodmyn. December. 

Sir Richard Jf'ynne, Knt. Carnarvonjhii'e. 

Richard Wuiwood, Efq ; Windfor. 

Members ] Im P^ oned 47 
J Secluded 96 

Total 143 

Befitles many more faid to have abfented theni- 
i'elves for Fear of the Army. 

Dec. 13. We have already taken Notice of two 
very extraordinary Votes of Revocation, palled 
the Commons on the I2thj and they now pro- Votes tending to 
ceeded to annull all fuch other Refolutions as had 3 Herfonal Trea-| 
the leaft Tendency towards a Reconciliation with ty with ^ *"* 
the King and his Adherents as follows : 

Whereas on the ijth of Auguft laft, this Houfe 
did concur with the Lords, c That, for opening a 
Way towards a Treaty with his Majefty for a fafe 
and well-grounded Peace, thefe Votes following 
fhould be and were revoked and taken off, viz, 
I. That the Lords and Commons ajjembled in Par- 
liament do declare^ That they -wilt make no further 
Addreffes or Application to the King. 2. That no 
Application or Addrefs be made to the King, by any 
P erf on whatsoever ', ivithout the Leave of both Houfes. 
3. That the P erf on or Perfons that jhall make Breach 
of this Order, jhall "incur the Penalty of high Trea- 
Jon. And) 4. ' That the Lords and. Commons do de- 
clare, That they will receive no Meffage any more 
from the King ; and do enjoin^ That no Pcrfon what- 
foever do prefume to receive or bring any Atfefiage 
from the King to both or either of the Houjes of Par- 
liament, or to any other Perfon: Rcfolved, * That 
the Vote for Revocation of the laid Votes was 
highly diflionourable to the Proceedings of Parlia- 
ment, and apparently deftruclive to the Good of 
the Kingdom.' * . 

RefolveJ, That _the Vote of the 2Sth of July 

laft, That a Treaty be had in the IJle of Wight <u*th 

the King in Pet-fan by a Committee appointed by both 

G g 4 Hwfes-i 



473 Vbe Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 24- Car- * Houfes, upon the Proportions prefented to him at 
14681 j Hampton-Court, "was highly difhonourable to the 
Proceedings of Parliament, and apparently deftruc- 
tive to the Good of the Kingdom. 

Refohed, 4 That the feveral Votes of the 10th 
of November laft, concerning iloe Banifliment of 
George Lord Goring, the Earl of Holland, the 
Lord Capel, Sir Henry Lingen, Henry Haftings, 
Efq . commonly call&d Lord Loughhorough, Major- 
General Rowland Laugharne, and Sir John Owen, 
are deftru&ive to the Peace and Quiet of the King- 
d6m, and derogatory to the Juftice of the King- 
dom; and are hereby revoked and made null. 

Refohed, * That the Vote of the loth of No- 
vember laft, That James Earl of Cambridge \Duke 
of Hamilton] be fined the Sum of ico, OOO/. and 
that he be kept clofe Prifonsr yntill he make Payment 
of the /aid Fine, be and is hereby revoked ; and he 
left to Juftice. 

Refohed, That the Vote of the 2d of Auguft 
laft, That the Commijfioners intended to be fent unto 
his MajeJIy to treat with him, (hall have Power to 
treat with his Mvjt/ly in the JJle of Wight, upon 
fuch Proportions as Jhall be offered by him, was de- 
ftru&ive to the Peace of the Kingdom ; and is 
hereby repealed, and made null and void. 

Refahed, ' That the Vote of the 5th of Decem- 
ber laft, That the Anfwers of the King to the Propo- 
fitions of both Houfes, are a Ground for the Houfe 
to proceed upon for the Settlement of the Peace of the 
Kingdom, is highly difhonourable to the Parlia- 
ment, deftructive to the Peace of the Kingdom, 
and tending to the Breach of the Public Faith of 
the Kingdom. 

Ordered, ' That the General do keep the King 
in fafe Cuftody; ar^d take Care that he go not 
away.' 

It does not appear, by the Commons journals, 
that they fo much as afk'd the Concurrence of the 
J^ords to any of the foregoing Votes of Revoca- 
tion, 

Dec. 



of 



E N G L A N D. 




Dec. 14. Moft of the fecludeJ Members fceing An 
$511 denied Entrance into the Houfe of Commons by 
the Soldiery, or kept Prifohers at the King's Head 
and the Swan in the Strand, a Motion was made, 
That a Committee (hould be appointed to go to the 
General, and know of him upon what Grounds 
their Members were reftrained from coming to the 
Houte by the Officers and Soldiers of the Army ? 
)vhich, being put to the Vote, was carried affirma- 
tively, by 35 againft 18, and a Committee was 
appointed accordingly. 

The next Day a printed Paper was prefentcd to 
the Houfe of Commons, intituled, 

A SOLEMN PROTESTATION of the Imprifoned and 
Secluded Members of the Houfe ^/Commons, 
againjt the horrid Force and Violence of the Offi- 
cers and Soldiers of the Army, on Wednefday and 
Thurfday laft, being the 6tb and fib Days of 
December, 164$. 

4 \T?E the Kriights, Citizens, and Burgeffes 
4 W of the Commons Houfe of Parliament, 
4 (above one hundred in Number) forcibly feized e d and Secluded 

* upon, violently kept out of, and driven from, the Members againft 
4 Houfe, by the Officers and Soldiers of the Army %^ ^ 
4 under 'Thomas Lord Fairfax, coming thither to them by the Ar- 
4 diicharge our Duties, on WeSntfden zn&Tburf-'?' 

4 day laft, being the 6th and yth of this Inftant 

4 December, rio hereby, in our own Names, and 

* in the Names of the refpe&ive Counties, Cities, 
4 and Boroughs for which we ferve, and of all the 
4 Commons of England, folemnly proteft and de- 

* clare to the whole Kingdom, That this exe- 
4 crable Force and open Violence upon our Perfons 
4 and the whole Houfe of Commons, by the Offi- 
4 cers and Army under their Command, march- 
4 ing up againft their Command, and placing ftrong 
4 armed Guards of Horfe and Foot upon them, 
4 without and againft their Order, is the higheft 

* and moft deteftable Force and Breach of Privi- 

* ledge and Freedom ever offered to any Parliament 
< of England; and that all A&s, Ordinances, 

4 Votes, 



474 Vb* Parliamentary HISTORY 

/,n. 24 Car - '-< Votes, and Proceedings of the faid Houfe, made 
l6 4 s< } ' fincfe the 6th of December aforefaid, or hereafter 

'~Decnber. * to be made, during our Reftraint and forcible Se- 
' clufion from the Houfe, and the Continuance of 
c the Army's Force upon it, are no Way obliga- 
' tory, but void and null to all Intents and Pur- 
' pofcs : And that all Contrivers of, Actors in, 
' and Affiftants to, this unparallel'd Force and 

* treafonable armed Violence, are open Enemies 
' to, and profefTed Subverters of, the Priveleges, 

* Rights, and Freedom of Parliament, and Di- 
' fturbers of the Peace and Settlement of the King- 

* dom, and ought to be proceeded againft as fuch: 

* And that all Members of Parliament and Com - 

* moners of ng land^ by their Solemn Covenant 

* and Duty, under Pain of deepeft Perjury and 

* eternal Infamy, are obliged unanimoufly toop- 
c pofe and endeavour, to their utmoft Power, to 
4 bring them to exemplary and condign Punifh- 

* ment for this tranfcendent Offence, tending to the 
' Diflblution of the prefent, and Subverfion of all 
c future Parliaments, and of the Fundamental Go- 
' vernment and Laws of this Realm. 

' All which we hold it our Duties to declare and 
c publifh to the World, for fear our ftupid Silence 

* fhould give any tacit Confent or Approbation to 

* this moft deteftable Crime, and make us guilty 
' of betraying the Privileges, Freedom, and Ho- 
' nour of this Parliament, to our perpetual Re- 
e proach, and the Prejudice of all fucceeding Par- 

* liaments. 

Dated at Weftminfter, December u, 1648. 

Hereupon a Committee was appointed to meet 
that Afternoon, and enquire who printed, contri- 
ved, or publiftied that fcandalous Paper (as it is 
ftyled in the Commons Journals'} ; with Power to 
fend for Perfons, Papers, and WitnefTes ; and to 
examine, as well Members of that Houfe, as 
others. 

Whether any Difcovery was made hereby does 

not appear : But the Commons having, the fame 

* Day, 




of ENGLAND. 

E>ay a read and parted a Declaration againfr the 

aforefaid Protection, and fent it up to the Lords, 

the latter were mean enough to give their Con- Deiem i )cr 

currcnce, Nemine contradicente , whereby they a- 

vowed all the Violence and Outrage the Army had 

committed againft the Freedom and Liberties of 

Parliament, and haften'd their own Diflblution: 

But their Lordfhips Unanimity js accounted for by 

fome of the 'Journalijls, who inform, us, That 

there were only four Peers then prcfent. This 

moft extraordinary Declaration runs thus (i) : 

THE Lords and Commons aflembled in Par- Both Houfcs rfe- 
liament, taking into Confideration a print- dare the forego, 
ed Paper, intituled, A folemn Protection of the faffeVSdalou. 
Imprijoned and Secluded Members ; wherein, a- and fcditious, 
mongft other Things, it is declared, That all 
Acls, Ordinances, Votes, and Proceedings of the 
Houfe of Commons, made fence the 6tb of this In- 
Jtant December, or hereafter to be made during 
their Rejlraint and forcible Scchifion from the 
Houfe, and the Continuance of the Army's Force 
upon it, are no way obligatory, but void and null 
to all Intents and Purpofcs: The faid Lords and 
Commons do hereby judge and declare the faid 
printed Paper to be falfe, fcandalous, and fedi- 
tious ; tending to deftroy the vifible and funda- 
mental Government of this Kingdom ; and do 
therefore order and ordain the faid printed Paper 
to be fupprefled ; and that all Perfons whatfoever 
that have had any Hand in, or given Confent un- 
to, the contriving, framing, printing or pub- 
lifhing thereof, (hall be adjudged, and hereby arc 
adjudged, incapable to bear any O -ce, or have 
anyplace ofTruft or Authority in this King- 
dom, or to fit as Members of either Houfe of Par- 
liament : And do further order and ordain, That 
every Member of either Houfe refpe&ively now 
abfent, upon his firft coming to fit in that Houfe 

whereof 

(i) This Declaration is printed at large in Mr. Rujfavortb* t Ctl- 
Vol. VII. p. 1363 j but not the Probation which gave 



47 6 The Parliamentary H i s T o R v 

An. 24 Car - I- whereof he is a Member, (hall, for the Manifef- 

^ , tation of his Innocency, difavow and difclaim his 

December. having had any Hand in, or giving Confent tm^ 
to, the contriving, framing, printing, or pub- 
lifhing of the faid Paper, or the Matter therein 

contained.' 

^rther Proceed- Dec. 2O. The Committee appointed to go to 
thlYm'rifoned the General re ported, That they had acquainted 
and Secluded 6 him with the Order and Votes of the Houfe about 
Members. their imprifoned Members ; to which he anfwered, 

* That they were Matters of great Confequence, 
and that he believed the Houfe did not expert a 
prefent Anfwer thereto, but that he would pre- 
pare one and fend it forthwith j and, in the mean. 
Time, he defired the Houfe would not trouble 
themfelves to fend any more to him about it,* 
On this Anfwer a Debate arofe, and it being put 
to the Queftion, Whether the former Meflage 
fhould be renewed by the fame Committee to the 
General concerning their abfent Members? it 
paffed in the Affirmative, 32 againft 19. 

Notwithftanding this ungracious Anfwer from 
the Lord-General Fairfax to the Committee of 
Parliament, his Excellency, this Day, thought pro- 
per to fend for Sixteen of the imprifoned Mem- 
bers to Whitehall. When they arrived there, 
CommifTary-General Ireton came to them in an 
outer Room, and finding Mr. Prynne amongft 
them, chid the Marfhal for bringing him without 
Order, and commanded him to be taken away j 
but upon his refuting to go, Ireton faid, He Jhould 
be thru/I out by the Head and Shoulders : Hereupon 
Mr. Prynne openly protefting, That the Army en- 
deavoured utterly to fubvert the Fundamental Laws 
of the Land, and Privileges of Parliament ; that 
they had no Power over him nor any Member of 
Parliament ; that their late Force atted upon them 
and their Proceedings^ was illegal and traiterous j 
that all Men were bound to bring them to cmdign 
Puni/hment) as Rebels and Traitors to their God, 
their King, Country, and Parliament 3 the Marfhal 

' was 



of E N G L A N D. 477 

was ordered to carry him back to his former Con- An. 24 car. I 
finement; and CommifTary-General Iretm went, t j 64 - 8 ' , 
in again to advife with the General and the reft to December, 
the Officers. After a while he returned to the 
Members) and told them, // was the General's 
Pleafure they all Jhould be releafed, provided they 
attempted nothing again/I the prefent Proceedings 
of the Parliament and the Army, adding, I'his at 
your Peril. However, the Gentlemen declaring 
they would give no Engagement, were difmifled 
without any ; and left at Liberty to fit in the 
Houfe again, if they thought proper. The con- 
temporary Writers agree as to the Number of 
Members difcharged this Day ; but we are obli- 
ged to Mr. Rujhworth alone for the Names of 
them, viz. Lord Ifanman, Sir Gilbert Gerrard^ 
Mr. Francis Gerrard, Sir Anthony Irby, Sir Tho- 
mas Soame, Sir John Merrick, Sir Samuel Luke, 
Sir Martin Lyfter, Mr. Boughton, Mr. Buller, 
Mr. Vaughan, Sir Walter Erie, Mr. Bulkley, Mr* 
Crew, Sir Robert Pye, and Mr. Knightley. 

Dec. 22. A Day of Humiliation having been A Faft-Sermon 
ordered by both Houfes, to be kept in the Cities of c ^ or b e 
London and Weflminjier, and within the weekly Hugh Pete". ^ 
Bills of Mortality, for removing the heavy Judg- 
ments of God now upon this Kingdom, and for 
his Direction and Blefling upon the Councils of 
Parliament, the famous Hugh Peters preached, 
on that Occafion, at St. Margaret's, Wejlminfler. 
There were prefent only four Lords, viz. the Earls 
of Pembroke, Nottingham, Denbigh, and Mulgrave, 
with the Prince Elector, and about twenty Com- 
moners. The Subject of his Sermon was Mofes's 
leading the Ifraelites out of Egypt, which he ap- 
plied to the Officers of Lord Fairfax's Army ; whole 
Defign, he told them, was to lead the People out 
of Egyptian Bondage ; the Manner of effecting 
which was to be by rooting up Monarchy, both 
here and in the Kingdoms round about, the Lord 
having a great Work to finifh throughout Chriften- 
dom by Means of this Army; which was that 

C6r- 



47 8 The Parliamentary H i s T 6 R V 

An. 14 Car. I. Corner-Stone hewn out of the Mountain, that 
t l648 ' muft dafh the Powers of the Earth in Pieces. 

December. 

Dec. 23. There was a great Debate in the 
The Commons Houfe of Commons on that Part of the Army's 
refolve to proceed Pj-opofals for bringing Delinquents to Juftice ; in 

SITS. a8ainft which the Defi g n of takin g of f the Kin g> that had 
been fo long fecretly in Agitation, was now open- 
]y avowed. Mr. Wbitlocke writes (l)S That feve- 
ral Members made no Scruple to mention his Ma- 
jefty, by name, as the greateft Delinquent, and as 
fuch to be brought to Juftice. Others infifted, 
That he was not capable of being brought to Ju- 
ftice by his Subjects, but by God alone; and that 
the Parliament having fubdued him and his Party, 
there was no need of any Thing further but to 
fecure themfelves from their Enemies rifmg asainft 
them any more ; and this might be done without 
bringing the King to any judicial Trial : A Thing 
not read of in any Hiftory. But the fiercer Party 
profecuted their Defign with all Eagernefs ; and 
thofe of a contrary Opinion either durft not op- 
pofe, knowing they (hould be prefently fecluded 
the Houfe if they did, or feeing that no Oppofi- 
tion would be to any Effect or Purpofe.' Our 
Mcmorialifl adds, * That feveral Members endea- 
voured to throw this Bufmefs wholly upon the Ar- 
my ; that if they would have the Thing done, 
they fliould do it themfelves, as moft proper for 
iuch an irregular and unheard-of Bufmefs to be 
done in an rregular Way, and by fuch irregular 
Men : But thefe were fubtle enough to fee and 
avoid that, and to make thofe whom they left fit- 
ting in Parliament to be their Stales, and to do 
their moft dirty Work for them; many of whom 
they found, and perfuaded to be, ftrangely forward 
to engage in it ; infomuch that it was carried by 
Vote in the Houfe of Commons, to name a Com- 
mittee of thirty-eight Perfons to confider of draw- 
ing up a Charge; and, for that Purpofe, to receive 

all 

(/) Memorials, p. 358. 



of E N G L A N D. 479 

all Informations, and Examinations of all Wit- An 2 4 Car. I. 
ncfles, for the Matters of Fad againft. the King t * 4 ' . 
and all other Delinquents that might be thought lit December, 
to he brought to condign Punifhment.' 

Another Contemporary informs us (m), c That 
when it was firft moved in the Houfe of Commons 
to proceed capitally againft the King, Cromwell 
ftood up and faid, That if any Man moved this 
upon Defign, he mould think him the greateft 
Traitor in the World ; but fmce Providence and 
Neceflicy had caft them upon it, he fhould pray 
God to blefs their Councils, though he was not 
provided on the fiidden to give them Advice.' 

This Day the King was brought to IVindfor- His Majefty 
Caftle, efcorte4 by a Party of Horfe under the brought to wind. 
Command of Major-General Harrifen, who was or " La e% 
fent fome Days before to fetch him from Hurft- 
Cajtle. 

On the i8th of this Month both Houfes had 
pafled an Ordinance for electing Common Coun- 
cil -Men and other City-Officers in London^ for the 
Year following, to this Efteft, * That no Perfon 
who had been imprifonedor fequeftered for De- 
linquency, or affifted the King againft the Par- 
liament in the firft or fecond War; or had been 
aiding or aflifting in bringing the Scots Army to 
invade this Kingdom ; or did fubfcribe or abet the 
treafonable P^ngagement, in the Year 1647 ; or 
that did aid, aflift, or abet the late Tumult within 
the Cities of London and Weflmlnjlcr^ or the Coun- 
ties of Kent, EJJex, Middlefex^ or Surrey, fliould be 
elected into the Office of Lord Mayor, Alderman, 
Deputy, Common-Council Man, or into any 
Place of Truft within the City, for the Year en- 
fuing ; or be capable to give his Voice for chu- 
fing any Perfon to fuch Offices ; and that if any 
Perfons comprehended under the aforefaid Excep- 
tions, being chofen, ihould prefume to fit in the 

. Court 

(m) Walker'* Hijiory cfhdtftnJtr.cy, p. 54. 



Parliamentary HIS 

An. i4.c*r. I. Court of Aldermen or Common-Council, or ex- 
1648. ecute an y of the aforefaid Offices, he (hould for- 

feit 200 /. one half to the Informer, and the o- 
ther to the Treafurers for the Relief of maimed 
Soldiers. All fuch Ele&ions to be null arid 
void ; and ,the Lord Mayor to take Care that 
this Ordinance be read at all Elections, and 
punctually ohferved ; and alfo to afford the Li- 
berty of the Pole, if required by any of the Elec- 
tors prefent.' But this Ordinance not fully an- 

, rt ,. fwering the Intent of the Independents^ who fet it 

An Ordinance *4 .....**/ /- /> T> r 

forbidding all on Foot iri the Houie of Commons^ two Days at- 
CitizensofLon- ter Major -General Skippon obferved to them, That 
don, who s pe- t ^ erc wag amon g tne Citizens of London a much 

tition a rr a fer- o 

fonal Treaty more dangerous Set of Men than either Uelm- 
with the King, quents^ or the Abettors of the late Infurre&ions 5 
Offi f tha g t any and therefore, in order to exclude this worft Kind 
City. of Malignants, and to encourage the godly Party 

in the City^ he mov'd, That no Perfon who had 
fubfqribed any Engagement in the Year 1648, re- 
nting to a Perfonal Treaty with the King at Lon- 
don^ mould be elected into any of the Offices ex- 
prefled in the aforefaid Ordinance ; which the 
Houfe agreed to. An additional Ordinance was 
ordered to be brought in accordingly ; which was 
immediately read, parted, and fent to the Lords ; 
who, the fame Day> gave their Concurrence to it. 
This great Difpatch was, we fuppofe, owing to 
the Election of Common -Council-Men being to 
come on the 2iir, according to annual Cuftom. 

But, on the 23d, a Petition was prefented to 
both Houfes, from the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, 
and Commons, againft this additional Ordinance, 
fetting forth, ' That if the fame fhould be put in 
' Force, there would not be found, in the whole Ci- 
' ty, Perfon s fit for undertaking the Places of De- 
' puties, Common-Council-Men, Inqucft-Men, 
* Jury-Men, Conftables, or Scavengers ; nor for 
' making Afleflments and Collection's of Money for 
1 the Supply of the Army : By reafon of all which 
the City would be left in a very diftradled Con- 
' dition, and deprived of its antient Government, 

< fettled 



^/ENGLAND. 481 

* fettled by Cuftom, granted by Charter, and con- An. 24 Car. it 
4 firmed by divers A6ts of Parliament ; and render- l648 ' M 

* ed unable to perform their Duty to the Parlia- December, 
menti or to preferve themfelves : And therefore 
praying that the faid additional Claufe might be 
repealed.' 

To this Petition the Lords returned for Anfwer, 
That as that Houfe had always been ready to 
preferve the Liberties of the City of London, fo 
fhould they frill be; and that they would take 
this Petition into Consideration torch with $ for the 
furthering the Good and Welfare of the City to 
the uttermoft of their Power.' But the Com- 
mons only told the Petitioners, * That they had 
referred their Petirion to a Committee, who were 
to prefent their Opinion thereupon to the Houfe.' 
The Refult of which^ fome Days after, was, that 
they had refolved^ That the Citizens be required 
to comply with the Reftriclions in this additional 
Ordinance. By this Means the Independants ex- 
cluded their Oppofites out of all Share in the Go- 
vernment of the City, as they had already done in 
the Houfe of Commons. 

Dec. 25. Moft of the Lords having of late" ab- The Houfe of 
fented themfelves from the Houfe, an Order was Lord* require the 
made by thofe few who fat there, that all the Peers j5 n j" e " t of 
within the Lines of Communication, and twenty Member*-. 
Miles diftant from London^ fhould 'peremptorily 
make their Appearance, on Thurfday the 28th of 
this Month, and thofe more rem >te, within four- 
teen Days; to attend the great Affairs of the King* 
dom, relating, in an extraordinary Manner, to the 
whole Peerage of England. A iVIotion was made 
for inflicting a Penalty of 50O/. for Default of O- 
bedienee to this Order; but it was not agreed to : 
However, it wasrefolved, That the Cafe of thofe, 
who fhould not fend fatisfadtory Reafons for their 
Abfence, fhould be taken into fuch further Con- 
flderation as might bed ftand with the Honour and 
Dignity of the Houfe of Peer*. 

VOL. XVI1L H h When 



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v 
December. 



482 the Parliamentary HISTORY 

An. 14 Car. I. When the Commons, on the 1 3th of this Month, 
revoked