Skip to main content

Full text of "The poetical decameron, or ten conversations on English poets and poetry, particularly of the reigns of Elizabeth and James I"

See other formats


to 


of  tije 


by 


Toronto 


Fev.  fi  .C.   Scalding,   D.r>. 


PHB 

POETICAL  DECAMERON, 

OK 

TEN  CONVERSATIONS 

ox 

ENGLISH  POETS  AND  POETRY, 

I'vu  i  u  i   i   M;I  V  01     i  in. 

lUigns  of  <£lt?abeti)  anto  Raines  fi. 


BY  .1.   PAYNE  COLLIER; 

OF  THE  MIDDLE  TEMPLE. 


"  >«u  fung  ilu-y  rt-a.l  in  tho.->i-  iiiUKjintier., 

Tliat  how  the  time  was  Mc-.l  they  (|inte  forgatc." 

.  Q.  B.  II.  c.  10- 


f.\  Tint  VOLUMES. 

\ 


I'KINTKI)    FOR 

ARCHIBALD  CONSTABLE  AND  CO.    EDINBURGH  ; 

ASP   UURSJ.   ROBINSON,  AND  CO.  CHEAFSIDE,   LONDON. 


THE 


POETICAL   DECAMERON. 


THE  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 


VOL.  II. 


CONTENTS 

OF  THE  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 


N.  Breton's  poem  in  John  Hind's  very  rare  novel  of 
l/ih'nlinoxti,    HHM5 — How  far  it  is   tit   to   examine   UK-    interior 
productions  of  good  writers — Breton's  "  Fancy,"  and  a  poem 

by  him  among  the  Royal  MSS "  Elumtox  Roundelay,"   by 

Robert  Greene,  extracted  and  observed  upon — The  title  of  Hind's 
production  imitated  from  R.  fircone's  "  Carde  of  Fancy" — Pla- 
giarism from  Hamlet  in  "  Dolamy's  Primrose,"  UHMJ — Quotation 
from  the  same — The  explanation  of  u  Dolarny's  Primrose-" — 
J)in«hin,  one  of  the  persons  in  Kltusto  [Mridlnoso,  meant  for  the 
author — Extract  from  Hind's  prose  and  poetry — How  far  the 
progress  of  Satire  in  English  should  be  further  traced — Character 
of  George  Wither — His  "  Abuses  stript  and  whipt,"  lf»13 — His 
voluminousness  as  an  author  proved  by  himself  in  his  Fides  An- 
gliciinti,  1WJO — His  imprisonment  and  release  on  account  of  his 
Satire  to  the  King,  with  specimens — Anecdote  of  Wither  in  Hugh 
Peters' Jests,  1WJO — Wither's  unpublished  MS — His  character  as 
a  politician  and  poet — Dedication  of  his  "Abuses  stript  &  whipt" 
to  himself — His  fearlessness  in  attacking  the  great,  &c. — Quota- 
tion from  his  first  Satire  "  Of  the  passion  of  Love" — His  unknown 
poem  of  "  Aretephils  Complaint"  confounded  with  his  "  Mistress 
of  Philarete" — Specimen  of  the  fourth  Satire  "On  Envy" — 
Gower's  Confessw  Anunitis  quoted — WTietstone's  character  of 
Envy  in  his  "  English  Myrror,"  158G— The  nature  of  that  book, 
with  a  specimen  of  the  poetry — Tale  of  the  Vicar  of  Croydon 
— Physicians  and  the  Gout — Massinger's  "  Emperor  of  the 
East"  cited — Whetstone's  "  Mirour  for  Magistrates  of  Cyties," 
li»H4,  with  quotations  from  it  regarding  himself  and  Judge 
Chomley — The  same  work  published  as  "  The  Enemie  of  Vn- 

B3 


4  CONTENTS. 

thryftinesse,"  in  1586,  with  a  new  tide — A  list  given  by  the 
printer  of  10  works  published  by  Whetstone  before  1586,  and  of 
three  others  then  in  hand — Another  extract  from  Wither's  fourth 
Satire — The  follies  and  vices  of  Kings  from  Sat.  1.  Book  II — 
Quotation  from  Sat.  II.,  "  Inconstancy" — Observations — A. 
Stafford's  "  Niobe,"  and  "  Niobe  dissolu'd  into  a  Nilus,"  1611 
— Character  of  him,  and  quotation  from  his  book  on  the  degeneracy 
of  nobility — His  vision  of  Sir  P.  Sidney — Wither  on  Sir  P.  Sidney, 
Drayton,  Ben  Jonson,  &c.  in  Sat  3.  Book  II — Wither's  dif- 
fidence of  his  own  poetical  powers,  and  the  boldness  of  his  political 
tracts— John  Phillips's  excessively  rare  poem  on  the  death  and 
funeral  of  Sir  P.  Sidney,  1587 — Specimen  and  remarks — Sir 
P.  Sidney's  panegyric  on  himself  from  the  same — Absurdity  of 
the  whole  construction  of  the  poem — Richard  Brathwayte,  a 
satirist,  and  an  imitator  of  Wither — His  "  Times  Curtaine  drawne 
or  the  Anatomie  of  Vanitie,"  &c.  1621 — His  admiration  of  Wither 
— His  coarseness  of  attack,  with  quotations  from  his  satires— On 
'the  poverty  of  poets,  with  an  extract — Brathwayte  on  his  own 
drunken  habits  from  his  "  Health  from  Helicon  " — On  translated 
satires — George  Chapman's  translation  of  the  fifth  Satire  of  Juve- 
nal, 1629 — The  author's  age  at  that  day — Quotation  from  the 
dedication — His  projected  translation  of  the  whole  of  Juvenal  and 
Persius — His  contempt  of  vulgar  applause  from  his  "  Memorable 
Masque,"  1613 — His  "  funeral  Oration"  on  burying  one  of 
Poppsea's  hairs — Specimen  of  his  translation  from  Juv.  Sat.  5. — 
.Remarks  upon  it,  and  conclusion  of  the  subject. 


THE 

POETICAL  DECAMERON. 


THE  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  The  last  work  which  occupied  us  yesterday 
was  a  tract  by  Nicholas  Breton.  The  pamphlet  I  now 
present  contains  a  poem  by  him  not  found  elsewhere, 
and  not  noticed  by  bibliographers. 

ELLIOT.  I  shall  be  glad  to  see  it,  because  I  have 
since  taken  the  opportunity  of  reading  some  pastoral 
pieces  by  him  in  the  reprint  of  "  England's  Helicon," 
and  they  give  me  a  favourable  opinion  of  his  poetical 
talents.  What  title  has  the  work  in  which  the  poem 
you  refer  to  is  inserted  ? 

BOURNE.  It  is  a  novel,  or  rather  one  of  those 
early  romances  which  are  seldom  met  with,  and  are 
never  to  be  purchased  but  at  a  very  high  price :  this 
is  of  peculiar  rarity :  it  is  called  "  Eliosto  Libidinoso  : 
Described  in  two  Bookes,"  &c.  "  Written  by  lohn 
Hynd.  At  London,  Printed  by  Valentine  Simmes," 
&c.  1606.  If  I  tell  you  what  a  copy  sold  for  at  the 
Roxburgh  sale,  it  will  give  you  a  notion  of  its  value. 


6  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

ELLIOT.  Of  its  price  it  may,  but  not  of  its  value. 
MORTON.  Your  distinctions  are  very  hair-breadth, 
but  among  the  collectors  of  old  books  the  words  are 
synonymous.     What  did  it  sell  for  ? 

BOURNE.  Only  nine  guineas,  and  if  it  were  put  up 
to  auction  now  I  dare  say  it  would  produce  not  far 
short  of  double  that  amount.  I  doubt  whether  the 
poem  it  contains  by  Breton  will  increase  your  respect 
for  his  talents. 

ELLIOT.  Then  perhaps  it  would  be  as  well  to 
omit  it. 

MORTON.  I  beg  that  we  may  hear  it.  Whatever 
you  may  wish,  I  would  rather  form  a  correct  than 
too  favourable  an  opinion  of  an  author. 

ELLIOT.  But  would  it  enable  us  to  form  a  correct 
opinion  >  We  might,  perhaps,  if  we  could  see  all  he 
wrote. 

BOURNE.  How  often  have  I  heard  you  quote  that 
line  of  Boileau,  Notre  siecle  est  fertile  en  sots  ad- 
mirateurs,  yet  now  you  wish  to  enlist  yourself  in  the 
number. 

ELLIOT.  To  reply  in  another  line  of  the  same 
satirist,  I  do  not  wish  to  be  Plus  enclin  a  blamer 
que  savant  ft  bien  faire.  At  least,  as  I  have  before 
remarked,  there  is  no  more  reason  for  reviving  the 
bad  productions  of  dead  authors  than  for  raking  up 
the  bad  actions  of  dead  men. 

MORTON.  Your  motto  is  Si  malus  est  nequeo 
Inudare  et  poscere ;  but  if  we  cannot  arrive  at  a  per- 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

fectly  just  conclusion  as  to  a  writer's  merits  and  de- 
fects, let  us  do  the  best  we  can  to  form  a  correct 
notion. 

BOURNE.  Mere  impartiality  requires  that  we  should 
not  pass  the  poem  over  without  notice.  This  is  indeed 
turning  the  tables  upon  us. 

ELLIOT.  Well,  I  am  content ;  let  us  hear  it :  the 
reading  will  be  the  least  evil  of  the  two :  malum 
quod  minimum  est,  id  minimum  est  malum.  A  short 
bad  poem  is  better  than  a  long  bad  argument. 

BOURNE.  After  all  it  may  not  be  the  work  of 
Breton :  Hind  introduces  it  as  "  a  fancie  which  that 
learned  author  N.  B.  hath  dignified  with  respect." 
Now  in  the  first  place,  the  initials  may  be  those  of 
some  other  writer  than  Nicholas  Breton,  and  in  the 
next,  it  is  not  said  that  he  was  the  author  of  it,  but 
that  he  "  dignified  it  with  respect." 

MORTON.  But  can  the  letters  N.  B.  apply  to  any 
other  author  than  Breton  ? 

BOURNE.  No,  not  that  I  know  of ;  but  still  there 
remains  the  second  doubt. 

ELLIOT.  It  is  not  of  much  consequence  whether 
it  be  or  be  not  Breton's,  for  the  best  poets  have 
written  badly:  indeed  it  would  be  difficult  to  find 
any  poet,  however  good,  who  has  at  all  times  written 

well. 

BOURNE.  A  great  deal  more  has  been  already  said 
about  the  poem  than  it  is  worth,  as  you  will  find 
when  it  is  finished. 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

"  Among  the  groues  the  woods  &  thicks 

The  bushes,  brambles,  and  the  briers, 

The  shrubbes,  the  stubbes,  the  thornes  &  prickes, 

The  ditches,  plashes  lakes  and  miers  : 

Where  fish  nor  fowle,  nor  bird  nor  beast 
Nor  liuing  thing  may  take  delight ; 
Nor  reasons  rage  may  looke  for  rest 
Till  heart  be  dead  of  hateful  spight : 

Within  the  caue  of  cares  vnknowne, 
Where  hope  of  comfort  all  decayes, 
Let  me  with  sorrow  sit  alone, 
In  dolefull  thoughts  to  end  my  dayes. 

And  when  I  heare  the  stormes  arise, 
That  troubled  Ghosts  doe  leaue  the  graue, 
With  hellish  sounds  of  horrors  cries, 
Let  me  goe  looke  out  of  my  caue. 

And  when  I  see  what  paines  they  bide 
That  doe  the  greatest  torments  proue, 
Then  let  not  me  the  sorrow  hide, 
That  I  haue  sufferd  by  my  loue. 

Where  losses,  crosses,  care  and  griefe, 
With  ruthfull,  spitefull,  hatefuU  hate, 
Without  all  hope  of  haps  reliefe 
Doe  tugge  and  teare  the  heart  to  naught : 

But  sigh  and  say  and  sing  and  sweare 

It  is  too  much  for  one  to  beare." 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  9 

And  so  it  ends,  with  a  sufficient  accumulation  of 
words,  and  more  than  a  sufficient  paucity  of  ideas. 

MORTON.  "  It  is  too  much  for  one  to  bear," 
indeed :  when  you  came  to  the  fourth  stanza,  be- 
ginning "  And  when  I  hear  the  storms  arise,"  I  was 
in  hopes  it  was  improving. 

BOURNE.  You  cannot  expect  a  despairing  but 
doating  lady  to  be  much  more  than  passionate  in  her 
poetry. 

MORTON.  And  her  sex  may  hfive  induced  the  poet, 
for  the  sake  of  consistency  of  character,  to  heap 
together  such  a  mass  of  reduplicated  words  without 
much  meaning. 

ELLIOT.  I  thought  your  originality  would  have 
been  above  such  a  reduplicated  and  threadbare  ob- 
servation, even  putting  gallantry  out  of  the  ques- 
tion. As  to  the  merits  of  the  poem,  I  think  the  in- 
ternal much  outweighs  the  external  evidence,  con- 
sisting, as  it  does,  only  of  two  initial  letters :  the 
name  is  as  likely  to  have  been  Nathan  Benjamin,  or 
any  other  N.  B.  as  Nicholas  Breton. 

BOURNE.  I  am  sure  I  have  no  interest  in  attri- 
buting the  trifle  to  the  poet  for  whom  you  have 
taken  such  a  strong  partiality. 

ELLIOT.  But  you  ought  to  have  an  interest  the 
other  way,  and  that  is  what  I  feel.  I  am  anxious 
that  what  is  wholly  unworthy  of  him  should  not 
needlessly  be  charged  against  him. 

BOURNE.  In  that  view  of  it  the  poem  from  which 


10  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

I  will  now  show  you  a  brief  extract  would  bear  your 
examination.  It  was  never  printed,  and  is  among 
the  royal  MSS.  having  been  dedicated  to  King 
James  :  it  is  rather  of  a  pious  and  didactic  turn,  but 
parts  of  it  are  eloquent. 

ELLIOT.  If  it  do  the  writer  credit  I  shall  be  happy 
to  look  at  it :  what  is  it  called  ? 

BOURNE.  It  consists  of  eight  parts  :  it  is  the  praise 
of  Virtue,  Wisdom,  Love,  Constancy,  Patience,  Hu- 
mility and  the  goodness  of  God,  with  a  conclusion 
entitled  Gloria  in  excelsis  Deo. 

MORTON.  One  part,  and  one  only,  is  mentioned 
by  Ritson:  you  say  you  have  a  specimen  of  this 
curiosity  j  let  us  hear  it. 

BOURNE.  A  disconnected  quotation  will  not  give 
you  a  fair  notion  of  the  whole.  In  describing  Virtue 
he  says  she  is 

"  The  soyle  wherin  all  sweetnes  ever  groweth, 

the  Fountaine  whence  all  Wisedome  ever  springeth, 

the  winde  that  never  but  all  blessing  blowcth, 

the  Aier  that  all  comfort  ever  bringeth  j 

the  fire  that  ever  life  and  love  inflameth, 

the  Figure  that  all  true  perfection  frameth." 

And  "  Vpon  the  praise  of  Wisedome"  he  has  the 
following  stanza : 

"  Shee  feeds  no  fancy  with  an  idle  fashion, 
yitt  fashions  all  things  in  a  comely  frame  j 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  11 

shee  never  knew  Repentance  wofull  Passion, 
nor  ever  fear'd  the  blot  of  wicked  blame ; 
but  even  and  true  what  ever  she  intended 
wrought  all  so  well,  that  none  could  be  amended." 

ELLIOT.  As  you  say,  two  stanzas  can  give  us  no 
correct  idea  of  a  long  poem :  the  verse  runs  very 
smoothly,  with  the  exception  of  the  line  in  the  first 
quotation,  where  you  were  obliged  to  read  Air  as 
two  syllables. 

BOURNE.  That  is  a  trifling  defect,  and  warranted 
by  the  practice  of  the  time.  I  am  sorry  I  made  no 
further  extracts  when  the  MS.  poem  was  before  me. 
But  leaving  Breton  now,  and  his  "  fancy"  in  Elitmtn 
LUndrndtOf  if  you  take  that  novel  into  your  hand  you 
will  find  on  the  next  page  another  poem ;  read  that, 
and  tell  me  whom  you  think  that  worthy  of. 

ELLIOT.  I  do  not  see  even  initials  inserted  here, 
so  that  the  guess  is  still  wider.  You  mean  the 
piece  entitled  "  Eliostoes  Roundelay" 

BOURNE.  I  do,  and  which,  it  is  stated,  is  borrowed 
from  "  a  worthy  writer."  Who  was  that  worthy 
witter? 

ELLIOT.  According  to  your  account  nearly  all  the 
poets  of  Elizabeth's  reign  were  worthy  writers,  so 
that  I  shall  be  as  wide  of  the  mark  as  ever. 

MORTON.  Perhaps  there  is  something  said  in  tin- 
poem  to  let  us  into  the  secret. 

BOURNE.  No,  but  it  is  by  a  man  of  the  highest 


12  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

eminence  and  notoriety  of  that  time — no  less  than 
Robert  Greene,  of  whom  we  have  heard  so  much, 
and  who  was  unquestionably  a  first-  rate  poet.  Read 
the  Roundelay,  and  I  will  give  you  very  satisfactory 
proof  afterwards  why  I  say  it  is  his. 

ELLIOT.  It  is  somewhat  of  the  longest,  but  if  it 
indeed  be  Greene's  I  dare  say  I  shall  not  regret  it. 

"  Eliostoes  Roundelay. 

"  Sitting  and  sighing  in  my  secret  muse  j 
As  once  Apollo  did,  surprised  with  Loue, 
Noting  the  slipperie  waies  young  yeares  doe  vse, 
What  fond  affects  the  prime  of  youth  doth  moue : 
With  bitter  teares  despairing  I  doe  crie, 
Woe  worth  the  faults  and  follies  of  mine  eie. 

When  wanton  age,  the  blossome  of  my  time, 
Drew  me  to  gaze  vpon  the  gorgeous  sight, 
That  Beautie  pompous  in  her  highest  prime 
Presents  to  tangle  men  with  sweet  delight : 

Then  with  despairing  teares  my  thoughts  doe  crie, 
Woe  worth  the  faults  and  follies  of  mine  eie." 

This  is  very  different  sort  of  stuff  to  that  which  you 
wished  to  palm  just  now  on  Breton :  at  least,  here 
we  have  beautiful  versification.  It  proceeds, 

"  When  I  suruaid  the  riches  of  her  lookes, 
Where-out  flew  flames  of  neuer  quencht  desire, 
Wherein  lay  baites  that  Venus  snares  with  hookes, 
Or  where  prowd  Cupid  sate,  all  arm'd  with  fire ; 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  13 

Then  toucht  with  Loue  my  inward  soule  did  crie, 
Woe  worth  the  faults  and  follies  of  mine  eie. 

The  milke-white  Galaxia  of  her  browe, 
Where  Loue  doth  daunce  Lauoltaes  of  his  skill, 
Like  to  the  Temple  where  true  Louers  vow 
To  follow  what  shall  please  their  mistresse  will : 
Noting  her  luorie  front,  now  doe  I  crie, 
Woe  worth  the  faults  and  follies  of  mine  eie. 

Her  face  like  siluer  Luna  in  her  shine, 
All  tainted  through  with  bright  vermillian  straines, 
Like  Lillies  dipt  in  Bacchus  choicest  wine, 
Powdred  and  inter-seam'd  with  azur'd  vaines  j 
Delighting  in  their  pride  now  may  I  crie, 
Woe  worth  the  faults  and  follies  of  mine  eie. 

The  golden  wyers  that  checker  in  the  day 
Inferiour  to  the  tresses  of  her  haire  -, 
Her  Amber  trammels  did  my  heart  dismay, 
That  when  I  lookt,  I  durst  not  ouer-dare  : 
Prowd  of  her  pride,  now  I  am  forc't  to  crie, 
Woe  worth  the  faults  and  follies  of  mine  eie. 

These  fading  Beauties  drew  me  on  to  sin 
Natures  great  riches  frain'd  my  bitter  ruthj 
These  were  the  traps  that  Loue  did  snare  me  in ; 
Oh  these  and  none  but  these  haue  wrackt  my  youth ! 
Mis-led  by  them,  I  may  despairing  crie, 
Woe  worth  the  faults  and  follies  of  mine  eie. 

!.\  those  I  -lipt  from  Vertues  holy  tracke, 
That  leads  into  the  highest  chrystall  spheare 


14  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

By  these  1  fell  to  vanitie  and  wracke ; 

And  as  a  man  forlorne  with  sinne  and  feare, 
Despaire  and  sorrow  doth  constraine  me  crie, 
Woe  worth  the  faults  &  follies  of  mine  eie ! " 

MORTON.  Though  there  is  some  tautology  in  it, 
the  Roundelay  is  obviously  the  work  of  no  mean 
hand. 

ELLIOT.  There  is  a  great  deal  of  passion  and  feel- 
ing in  the  stanzas,  and  even  the  repetitions,  such  for 
instance  as  the  last  few  lines,  are  very  natural  to  u 
man  under  strong  excitement,  dwelling  on  what  is 
most  deeply  impressed  upon  his  mind. 

MORTON.  The  recurrence  of  the  same  two  lines 
at  the  end  of  every  stanza  is,  I  ^hink,  too  artificial 
for  very  strong  feeling,  and  but  for  this  I  should 
agree  entirely  with  you.  But  how  does  it  appear 
that  Greene  was  the  author  of  it  ? 

BOURNE.  Simply  by  being  found  in  one  of  his  ac- 
knowledged productions,  of  which  there  must  have 
been  several  earlier  editions,  though  that  in  my  hand 
is  dated  only  in  1621.  It  is  called  "  Greene's  never 
too  late,"  and  elsewhere  Greene's  Nunquam  sera  est ; 
a  pamphlet,  in  which,  conscience-struck,  he  laments, 
under  a  feigned  name,  "the  faults  and  follies"  of  his 
own  ungoverned  youth. 

MORTON.  Perhaps  Hind,  the  author  of  Eliosto 
Libidinoso,  was  a  friend  of  Greene. 

BOURNE.  Possibly,  though  there  is  no  proof  of  the 
fact :  there  is  proof  that  he  was  an  admirer  and  an 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  15 

imitator  of  Greene  in  this  very  pamphlet,  for  the 
whole  is  an  exaggeration  of  his  worst  style  and  most 
obvious  faults.  Even  the  title-page  is  an  imitation 
of  Greene,  or  more  properly,  a  copy  from  him.  The 
full  title  to  Greene's  "  Carde  of  Fancie"  runs  thus, 
"  Wherein  the  follie  of  those  carpet  Knights  is  de- 
ciphered, which  guiding  their  course  by  the  com- 
pass of  Cupid,  either  dash  their  ship  against  most 
dangerous  Rockes,  or  else  attaine  the  hauen  with 
paine  and  perill."  Now  read  Hind's  title. 

MORTON.  The  resemblance  is  exact:  "  Wherein 
their  imminent  dangers  are  declared,  who  guiding 
the  course  of  their  life  by  the  compasse  of  Affection, 
either  dash  their  ship  against  most  dangerous  shelues, 
or  else  attaine  the  Hauen  with  extreme  prejudice.'* 

ELLIOT.  But  I  should  like  a  specimen  from  Hind's 
share  of  the  performance  ;  I  do  not  care  much  about 
the  resemblance  of  the  titles. 

BOURNE.  I  can  have  no  objection,  as  we  shall 
have  time  enough  to-day  to  finish  the  English  sa- 
tirists :  you  shall  hear  both  Hind's  prose  and  poetry, 
for  he  was  a  versifier  also :  the  prose  is  introductory 
of  what  is  called  "  Dinohins  Sonnet"  which  Dinohin 
is,  in  fact,  no  other  than  John  Hind,  the  same  letters 
being  used  in  both  names. 

MORTON.  In  the  same  way  as  "  Dolarny's  Prim- 
rose" is,  in  fact,  Raynold's  Primrose,  though  the 
writer  in  the  British  Bibliographer  (I.  153),  and  Dr. 
Drake,  in  his  "  Shakespeare  and  his  Times,"  \\erc 
unable  to  "  unriddle  the  conceit." 


16  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  That  conceit  being  merely  the  trans- 
position of  the  letters.  Dr.  Drake,  in  the  very  im- 
perfect and  injudicious  catalogue  he  has  furnished 
of  the  poets  contemporary  with  Shakespeare,  has 
ventured  to  rank  Raynold  above  mediocrity,  and 
George  Peele  below  it:  yet  the  former  was  one  of 
the  most  puling  writers  that  ever  put  pen  to  paper, 
and  the  latter  one  of  the  most  manly  and  vigorous. 
Observe  too  the  following  plagiarism  from  Hamlet 
in  "  Dolarny's  Primrose,"  (1606) :  a  Hermit  is  mo- 
ralising upon  a  skull : 

"  Why  might  not  this  haue  beene  some  lawiers  pate, 
The  which  sometimes  brib'd,  brawl'd,  and  tooke  a 

fee, 

And  law  exacted  to  the  highest  rate  ? 
Why  might  not  this  be  such  a  one  as  he  ? 

Your  quirks  and  quillets  now,  Sir,  where  be  they  ? 

Now  he  is  mute  and  not  a  word  can  say." 

ELLIOT.  The  writer  had  Hamlet  in  his  memory, 
no  doubt,  and  plagiarism  is  not  too  hard  a  word. 

BOURNE.  I  only  mentioned  it  incidentally,  because 
it  has  not  been  previously  noticed.  I  am  sure  the 
originality  of  such  a  milk-sop  poet  as  Raynolds  is 
not  worth  vindicating  or  disputing.  Yet  in  order  to 
enable  you  to  decide  upon  the  rank  he  ought  really 
to  take,  and  to  ascertain  whether  there  is  a  pretence 
for  placing  him  before  Peele,  of  whom  you  already 
know  something,  I  cannot  resist  availing  myself  of 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  17 

this  opportunity  of  quoting  two  stanzas  from  t€  Do- 
larny's  Primrose:"  he  is  describing  a  fair  May  day. 

"  In  garments  green  the  meadowes  fayre  did  ranck  it 
The  vallies  lowe  of  garments  greene  were  glad; 
In  garments  greene  the  pastures  proud  did  pranck  it, 
The  daly  grounds  in  garments  greene  were  clad : 
Each  hill  and  dale,  each  bush  and  brier  were  scene 
Then  for  to  florish  in  their  garments  greene. 

"  Thus  as  the  medowes,  forests  and  the  fields 
In  sumptuous  tires  had  deckt  their  daynty  slades, 
The  florishing  trees  wanton  pleasure  yeelds, 
Keeping  the  sunne  from  out  their  shadie  shades  : 
On  whose  greene  leaues  vpon  each  calinie  day 
The  gentle  wind  with  dallying  breath  did  play." 

ELLIOT.  It  is  very  poor  certainly,  but  the  lines  are 
not  altogether  deficient  in  harmony. 

BOURNE.  Perhaps  not,  with  the  assistance  of  "  gar- 
ments green"  five  times  affectedly  repeated,  and  such 
combinations  as  "  daly  grounds,"  "  shady  shades," 
and  "  calmy  days,"  besides  "  grovy  shades,"  no  less 
than  thrice  employed  in  the  course  of  six  stanzas. 

MORTON.  Let  us  leave  him  for  Dinohin,  alias  John 
Hind.  By  the  by,  Golde,  in  the  "  Fig  for  Momus" 
of  Lodge,  in  the  same  way  may  be  meant  for  the 
author. 

BOURNE.  No  doubt  that  is  the  true  explanation, 
which  never  occurred  to  me  before.  Dinohin  is  an 
important  personage  in  the  second  book  of  this 

VOL.  II.  C 


13  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

pamphlet,  and  the  author,  without  doubt,  meant  to 
shadow  himself  under  the  name — this  makes  it  the 
more  curious..  The  extract  I  am  about  to  read  is  from 
p.  77  of  Eliosta  Libidinoso. 

"When  Titan,  hasting  to  plunge  his  fierie  chariot 
in  27^Ywlappe,had  gladded  Oceanus  with  his  returne." 

ELLIOT.  A  man  who  could  put  together  such  a 
sentence  as  that,  could  not  have  an  atom  of  taste,  or 
any  notion  of  propriety — "  plunging  his  fiery  chariot 
in  Thetis's  lap,"  is  a  most  extravagant  absurdity. 

MORTON.  Let  us  defer  our  criticisms  until  the 
end. 

BOURNE.  Yet  the  observation  is  perfectly  well 
founded.  "  When  Titan  hasting  to  plunge  his  fierie 
chariot  in  Thetis  lappe,  had  gladded  Oceanus  with 
his  returne,  the  tormented  Louer  taking  a  Lute  in 
his  hand,  went  to  the  place  which  so  late  he  found, 
and  there  did  in  sad  melodic  sound  foorth  his  sor- 
rowes. — Gatesinea  wondring  to  heare  musicke  at 
her  windowe  looked  out  and  discerned  her  beloued 
Dinohin,  whose  affections  when  shee  sawe  like  her 
owne,  shee  was  rauished  with  incredible  ioyes,  and 
had  presently  vttered  some  signe  of  her  content,  had 
not  maidenly  modestie,  and  the  presence  of  her  nurce 
staid  her :  who  perswaded  her,  that  hauing  Dinohin 
at  the  aduantage,  shee  should  not  so  easily  offer  her 
loue,  lest  hee  might  little  esteeme  it,  hauing  so 
lightly  got  it.  The  perplexed  Louer  repairing  oft  to 
his  accustomed  place  with  more  pleasure  to  Gate- 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  19 

sinea  than  content  to  himselfe,  resolued  in  the  ende 
to  make  a  full  triall  of  his  good  or  badde  fortune, 
and  no  more  to  vse  such  dumbe  demonstrations. 
Comming  therefore  late,  as  he  was  wont,  to  the 
window,  he  tarried  till  he  perceiued  by  some  signes, 
that  his  mistresse  was  come  into  her  chamber,  ac- 
companied only  with  her  nurce :  then  fingring  his 
Lute,  and  framing  his  voice,  he  vttered  this  passionate 
Dittie,  making  euery  rest  a  deepe-fetched  sigh. 

Dinohins  Sonnet. 

"  I  rashly  vow'd  (fond  wretch  why  did  I  so  ?) 
When  I  was  free  that  Loue  should  not  inthrall  me: 
Ah  foolish  boast,  the  cause  of  all  my  woe, 
And  this  misfortune  that  doth  now  befall  me. 

Loues  God  incens'd  did  sweare  that  I  should  smart, 
That  done,  he  shot  and  strooke  me  to  the  heart'! 

"  Sweet  was  the  wound,  but  bitter  was  the  paine  j 
Sweet  is  the  bondage  to  so  faire  a  creature, 
If  coie  thoughts  do  not  Beuties  brightnesse  staine, 
Nor  crueltie  wrong  so  diuine  a  feature. 
Loue  pittie  mee,  and  let  it  quite  my  cost, 
By  Loue  to  finde  what  I  by  Loue  haue  lost ! 

"  Heau'ns  pride,  Earths  wonder,  Natures  peerelesse 

choice 

Faire  harbour  of  my  soules  decaying  gladnesse ! 
Yield  him  some  ease,  whose  faint  and  trembling  voice 
Doth  sue  for  pittie  ouerwhelm'd  with  sadnesse. 


20  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

In  thee  it  rests,  faire  Saint,  to  saue  or  spill 
His  life,  whose  loue  is  ledde  by  Reasons  will!" 

ELLIOT.  There  is  not  much  to  be  said  against  the 
prose,  excepting  where  the  author  attempts  to  set 
out  with  a  flourish  about  Titan  and  Thetis. 

BOURNE.  And  the  poetry  is  so  good,  that  I  am  not 
at  all  sure  that  it  is  Hind's  own  composition  :  the 
two  last  lines  I  cannot  help  fancying  that  I  have 
read  somewhere  else. 

MORTON.  I  do  not  see  why  you  should  strip  every 
feather  from  the  wings  of  Hind's  Pegasus  j  where 
he  has  availed  himself  of  the  labours  of  other  men, 
he  seems  to  have  acknowledged  the  obligation. 

BOURNE.  In  one  respect  he  was  very  original,  for 
to  use  a  phrase  of  Shakespeare's,  he  was  "  a  man  of 
fire-new  words,"  though  a  great  imitator  of  the  then 
discredited  Eupheuistic  style.  Having  seen  all  that 
is  necessary  of  his  production,  I  suppose  there  is  no 
objection  to  our  completing  what  we  left  unfinished 
at  our  last  meeting. 

ELLIOT.  I  do  not  imagine  that  much  remains  for 
us  to  notice  in  the  class  of  writers  who  have  pro- 
duced satirical  poetry. 

BOURNE.  If  I  were  to  go  through  those  who  wrote 
after  1600,  as  minutely  as  I  have  done  those  who 
wrote  before  that  date,  we  should  not  only  have  a 
long,  but  a  tedious  task  yet  to  execute. 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  21 

MORTON.  We  want  to  be  amused  and  informed, 
not  lo  be  wearied  and  stupefied. 

BOURNE.  You  need  be  under  no  alarm  j  I  should 
be  quite  as  reluctant  to  enter  upon  that  task  as 
yourself ;  but  in  quoting  a  few  specimens  from  two 
very  celebrated  authors,  I  apprehend  we  shall  be 
rendering  our  subject  sufficiently  complete,  be  em- 
ploying our  time  profitably,  and  obtaining  as  much 
amusement  as  the  nature  of  the  inquiry  will  allow. 

ELLIOT.  I  leave  it  to  your  discretion,  putting  in 
my  protest  by  the  way  against  any  thing  tedious. 
In  this  respect  you  are  quite  free  to  be  dives  tibi, 
pauper  am  ids:  you  may  keep  your  knowledge  of 
those  numerous  authors  you  hint  at  to  yourself :  to 
the  select  few  I  have  no  objection. 

BOURXK.  I  have  no  wish  to  revive  forgotten  and 
neglected  trash.  Specimens  from  two  writers  will 
conclude  our  inquiry  respecting  the  origin  and  pro- 
gress of  satire  in  English. 

ELLIOT  And  who  is  the  first  author,  or  rather  the 
first  satirist,  you  are  about  to  notice  to-day? 

BOURNE.  George  Wither. 

ELLIOT.  A  name  I  have  often  heard,  though  I 
have  never  had  an  opportunity  of  seeing  more  than 
a  few  extracts  from  some  of  his  productions. 

BOURNE.  The  ridicule  of  Butler,  Pope,  and  Swift, 
has  contributed  to  keep  him  in  the  back  ground 
longer  than  many  other  authors  of  far  less  merit :  in 
fact  he  has  oeen  improperly  and  unfairly  estimated, 
both  by  his  friends  and  enemies ;  the  latter  heaping 


22  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

upon  him  undeserved  censure,  and  the  former  un-    _ 
deserved  praise.      He  was   unquestionably  a  very 
eminent  and  notorious,  as  well  as  a  very  caustic 
satirist. 

MORTON.  Of  course  you  refer  to  his  "  Abuses 
stript  and  whipt."  An  immense  number  of  pages 
of  the  British  Bibliographer,  or  Restiluta,  I  forget 
which,  are  occupied  by  a  list  of  his  productions. 

BOURNE.  They  were  excessively ;  numerous:  in 
1660,  at  the  end  of  his  Fides  Anglicana,  a  prose 
tract,  he  himself  furnishes  a  catalogue  of  no  less 
than  eighty-two  pieces  in  prose  and  verse  that  had 
flowed  from  his  pen ;  the  list  you  speak  of  far  ex- 
ceeds that  number.  He  states  that  his  catalogue 
is  incomplete,  as  his  memory  could  not  retain  all 
the  titles  :  besides,  he  published  several  other  tracts 
after  that  date,  as  he  continued  to  scribble  on  down 
nearly  to  the  day  of  his  death  in  1667.  According  to 
Wood  he  was  then  seventy-nine  years  old,  having  been 
born  in  the  memorable  year  of  the  Spanish  Armada. 

MORTON.  For  his  satires  he  was  imprisoned  in  the 
Marshalsea,  and  afterwards,  as  is  stated,  liberated  in 
consequence  of  publishing  another  satire  to  the  king, 
justifying  his  first  production. 

BOURNE.  So  it  is  said,  but  I  never  could  learn  on 
what  authority  the  assertion  rested.  I  believe  it  is  a 
fact,  that  the  satire  to  the  king  was  written  while  he 
was  in  confinement,  and  that  he  was  released  soon 
afterwards. 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION,  23 

ELLIOT.  Most  likely,  then,  it  depends  merely  upon 
inference. 

BOURNE.  You  may  judge  from  the  following  lines 
in  that  satire  to  the  king,  that  the  author  was  not 
very  humble  or  contrite  for  his  past  offences. 

"  But  know  I'me  he  that  entred  once  the  list 
Gainst  all  the  world  to  play  the  Satyrist: 
Twas  I  that  made  my  measures  rough  and  rudo, 
Dance  arm'd  with  whips  amidst  the  multitude, 
And  vnappalled  with  my  charmed  Scrowles 
Teaz'd  angry  Monsters  in  their  lurking  holes. 
Fue  plaid  with  Wasps  and  Hornets  -without  feares, 
Till  they  grew  mad  and  swarmd  about  my  eares. 
I'ue  done  it,  and  me  thinkes  tis  such  braue  sport, 
I  may  be  stung,  but  nere  be  sorry  for't ; 
For  all  my  grief  is,  that  I  was  so  sparing 
And  had  no  more  in't  worth  the  name  of  daring." 

ELLIOT.  Those  lines  are  very  fearless  and  spirited, 
but  I  do  not  think  King  James,  notwithstanding  Mr. 
Disraeli's  vindication  of  him,  was  quite  the  man  to 
liberate  the  poet  who  justified  instead  of  apologizing 
for  his  crime. 

BOURNE.  Some  lines  rather  of  a  petitioning  cha- 
racter are  inserted ;  but  still  even  there  the  author 
maintains  that  he  was  in  the  right.  He  says, 

"  But  why  should  I  thy  fauour  here  distrust 

That  haue  a  cause  so  knowne,  and  knowne  so  just  ? 

Which  not  alone  my  inward  comfort  doubles 

But  all  suppose  me  wrong'd  that  heare  my  troubles. 


24  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

Nay,  though  my  fault  were  Reall,  I  beleiue 
Thou  art  so  Royall,  that  thou  wouldst  forgiue  ; 
For  well  I  know  thy  sacred  Maiesty 
Hath  euer  been  admir'd  for  Clemencie, 
And  at  thy  gentlenesse  the  world  hath  wondred, 
For  making   sunshine  where    thou   mightst   haue 
thundred." 

MORTON.  That  savours  a  little  of  flattery,  does  it 
not? 

BOURNE.  Were  it  written  by  any  man  but  Wither, 
I  should  think  so  too,  perhaps  ;  but  being  from  his 
free  pen,  I  take  it  as  a  testimony  of  some  value  in 
behalf  of  the  character  of  James  I. 

MORTON.  Wither  was  imprisoned  more  than  once  : 
according  to  the  sketch  of  his  life  in  the  British 
Bibliographer,  he  was  sent  to  the  Tower. 

BOURNE.  Yes,  many  years  afterwards  :  he  was 
confined  there  for  three  years,  and  was  forbidden 
the  use  of  pen,  ink,  and  paper.  Regarding  one  of 
his  political  tracts,  called  "  the  Perpetual  Parlia- 
ment," I  found  the  following  story  in  the  "  Tales 
and  Jests  of  Mr.  Hugh  Peters,"  16GO,  which  I  have 
not  any  where  seen  extracted,  and  which  serves  to 
show,  among  many  other  testimonies,  that  poor 
Wither,  from  his  political  principles  more  than  from 
any  other  cause,  was  not  very  highly  esteemed  by 
his  contemporaries. 


Mr.  Peters  jeered  the  Poet  Withers. 
ff  George  Withers  hauing  wrote  a  poem  in  which 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  25 

he  predicted  the  continuance  of  a  free  state,  called  it 
the  Perpetual  Parliament ;  a  little  after  the  Parlia- 
ment was  dissolued,  and  Mr.  Peters  meeting:  the  said 
Mr.  Withers  told  him  he  was  a  pitifull  Prophet  and 
a  pitifull  Poet,  otherwise  he  had  not  wrote  such  pre- 
dictions for  a  pitifull  Parliament." 

MORTON.  Which  story,  I  feel  little  doubt,  is  a 
mere  malignant  fabrication)  for  Peters  would  not 
have  dared  to  say,  nor  Wither  endured  to  hear  what 
is  there  stated. 

BOURNE.  I  am  of  your  opinion.  I  forgot  to  men- 
tion, that  among  the  eighty-two  pieces  Wither 
enumerates  as  his  in  1660,  are  many  in  MS.  which 
are  stated  to  have  been  lost :  one  of  them  must  have 
been  very  curious,  "  The  pursuit  of  Happiness,  being 
a  character  of  the  extravagancy  of  the  Authors  Af- 
fections and  Passions  in  his  youth."  He  was  a  very 
bold  man  in  politics,  and  did  not  scruple  to  put  into 
Oliver  Cromwell's  own  hands  four  addresses  or  re- 
monstrances on  his  "  duties  and  failings." 

MORTON.  His  excellence  as  a  poet,  and  especially 
as  a  pastoral  poet,  is  now,  I  believe,  admitted. 

BOURNE.  By  all  who  know  any  thing  about  him  j 
but  there  is  still  a  great  number  who,  when  his  name 
is  mentioned,  cover  their  ignorance  of  his  merit  under 
the  cloak  with  which  the  authors  of  Hudibras,  the 
Dunciad,  and  the  Battle  of  the  Books,  have  fur- 
nished them. 

ELLIOT.  He  seems  to  be  a  man  about  whom,  and 


26  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

whose  writings,  a  strong  and  peculiar  interest  may 
be  felt. 

BOURNE.  As  a  poet,  using  the  word  in  its  latitude, 
he  wants  fancy  and  imagination,  though  his  versi- 
fication is  usually  uncommonly  easy,  and  his  thoughts 
just  and  natural :  his  chief  talent  was  for  satire  and 
moral  instruction,  and  of  this  you  will  be  able  to 
judge  by  a  few  short  specimens  from  his  "  Abuses 
stript  and  whipt,"  the  first  edition  of  which,  dated  in 
1C13,  is  here. 

ELLIOT.  I  hope  you  do  not  intend  to  abridge  your 
extracts  too  much. 

BOURNE.  You  shall  regulate  their  length  yourself: 
Wither's  Pastorals,  his  "  Mistress  of  Philarete"  and 
many  other  pieces,  have  been  often  criticised,  but 
the  satires  before  us  have  been  comparatively  little 
quoted,  though,  in  my  opinion,  deserving  quite  as 
much,  if  not  more,  attention.  The  first  thing  to  be 
remarked  is  the  curious  dedication  of  the  book  (per- 
haps in  imitation  of  Marston),  to  himself,  "  whom 
(he  says)  next  God,  my  Prince  and  Country  I  am 
most  engaged  vnto." 

MORTON.  Not  being  able,  I  suppose,  to  gain  a 
patron  for  his  severity. 

BOURNE.  That  is  one  of  the  reasons  he  assigns : 
among  some  epigrams  that  precede  the  satires,  is 
one  "  to  the  Satyromastix,"  which  shows  the  fear- 
lessness with  which  he  undertook  and  completed  his 
labours.  It  contains  the  following  lines: 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  27 

"  What?  you  would  faine  haue  all  the  great  ones 

freed  ? 

They  must  not  for  their  vices  be  controld : 
Beware! — that  were  a  saucinesse  indeed; 
But  if  the  great  ones  to  offend  be  bold 
I  see  no  reason  but  they  should  be  told." 

MORTON.  The  Frenchman  made  an  empty  boast 
of  his  courage  when  he  said, 

Je  ne  puis  rien  nommer  si  ce  nest  pas  son  nom, 

J'appelle  un  chat  un  chat,  et  Rolct  unfripon, 
but  he  took  special  care  to  name  nobody  whose 
anger  could  do  him  injury  in  the  quarter  which  he 
most  aimed  to  please. 

BOURNE.  Wither  says  elsewhere,  that  he  only 
names  the  vices,  not  those  who  flourished  in  them, 
and  he  makes  no  vain  pretensions  to  individual  de- 
signation :  yet  the  result  showed  the  truth  of  what 
Lod.  Barry  excellently  says  in  his  Ram  Alley,  in 
Dodsley's  Collection,  • 

"  All  great  mens  sins  must  still  be  humoured, 
And  poor  mens  vices  largely  punished : 
The  privilege  that  great  men  have  in  evil 
Is  this — they  go  unpunish'd  to  the  Devil." 

ELLIOT.  Exceedingly  well;  but  I  am  longing  to 
see  something  more  by  the  satirist  in  your  hand. 

BOURNE.  The  following  quotation  is  from  the  first 
satire  of  the  first  book  "  Of  the  passion  of  Love.'* 


28  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

«  Counsels  in  vaine,  cause  when  the  fit  doth  take 

them 

Reason  and  understanding  doth  forsake  them  5 
It  makes  them  som-time  merry,  som-time  sad, 
'  Vntamd  men  mild,  and  many  a  mild  man  mad.* 
That  one  to  gold  compares  his  Mistris  haire 
When  tis  likefoxfar;  and  doth  thinke  shees  faire, 
Though  she  in  beauty  be  not  far  before 
The  Swart  West  Indian,  or  the  tawny  Moore. 
Oh  those  faire  star-like  eyes  of  thine,  one  sayes, 
When  to  my  thinking  she  hath  lookt  nine  waies : 
And  that  sweet  breath,  when  I  thinke  (out  vpon't) 
Twould  blast  a  flower  if  she  breathed  on't.  *  *  * 
Then  there  is  one  who  hauing  found  a  peere, 
In  all  things  worthy  to  be  counted  deere, 
Wanting  both  Art  and  heart  his  mind  to  breake, 
Sets  sighing  (ijooe  is  me)  and  will  not  speake  j 
All  company  he  hates  is  oft  alone, 
Crowes  Melancholy,  weepes,  respecteth  none, 
And  in  dispaire  seekes  out  a  way  to  dye, 
When  he  might  liue  and  find  a  remedy. — 
But  how  now  ?  Wast  not  you,  saies  one,  that  late 
So  humbly  beg'd  a  boone  at  beauties  gate  ? 
Was  it  not  you  that  to  a  female  Saint 
Indited  your  Aretophils  complaint  }*** 
To  him  I  answere  that  indeed  en'e  I 
Was  lately  subiect  to  this  malady ; 
Like 't  what  I  now  dislike,  emploi'd  good  times 
In  the  composing  of  such  idle  Runes 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  12<) 

As  are  obiected :  From  my  heart  I  sent 

Full  many  a  heauy  sigh  and  oft-times  spent 

Vnmanly  teares :  I  haue  I  must  confesse.  *  *  * 

In  many  a  foolish  humor  I  haue  beene, 

As  well  as  others  ;  looke,  where  I  haue  scene 

Her  (whom  I  loud)  to  walke,  when  she  was  gone 

Thither  I  often  haue  repair'd  alone  j 

As  if  I  thought  the  places  did  containe 

Something  to  ease  me  (oh  exceeding  vaine! ) 

Yet  what  if  I  haue  beene  thus  idly  bent, 

Shall  I  be  now  asham'd  for  to  repent  ? 

Moreouer,  I  was  in  my  child-hood  than 

And  am  scarce  yet  reputed  for  a  Man; 

And  therefore  neither  cold,  nor  old,  nor  dry, 

Nor  cloi'd  with  any  foule  desease  am  1 : 

Tis  no  such  cause  that  made  me  change  my  minde; 

But  my  affection  that  before  was  blind, 

Rash  and  vnruly,  now  begins  to  find, 

That  it  hath  run  a  large  and  fruitlesse  race 

And  thereupon  hath  giuen  Reason  place.  * 

Yet  for  all  this,  looke,  where  I  lou'd  of  late 

I  haue  not  turn'd  it  in  a  spleene  to  hate : 

No,  for  'twas  first  her  Vertue  and  her  Wit, 

Taught  me  to  see  how  much  I  wanted  it  j 

Then  as  for  Loue,  I  doe  allow  it  still 

I  neuer  did  dislik't,  nor  neuer  will, 

So  it  be  vertuous,  and  contein'd  within 

The  bounds  of  Reason  ;  but  when  t'will  begin 

To  run  at  randome  and  her  limits  breake, 

I  must,  because  I  cannot  chuse  but  speake. 


30  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

ELLIOT.  There  is  not  only  uncommon  ease  in  the 
running  of  the  lines,  but  frequently  great  force  in 
the  very  familiarity  of  the  expressions.  We  have 
no  right  to  complain  that  he  is  not  very  original  on 
such  a  theme. 

BOURNE.  The  number  and  variety  of  his  works 
prove,  that  he  must  have  composed  with  very  great 
rapidity.  These  satires  were  written  in  1611,  when 
the  author  was  only  23  years  old,  and  for  that  age 
they  show  great  acuteness  and  extent  of  observation. 

MORTON.  In  the  beginning  of  the  extract  Wither 
seems  to  allude  to  some  work  of  his  own,  under  the 
title  of  "  Aretophils  Complaint."  Is  that  extant  ? 

BOURNE.  It  is  not,  though  some  have  confounded 
it  with  his  poem  of  "  the  Mistress  of  Philarete." — 
"Aretophils  Complaint"  (which  he  afterwards  called 
"  Philaretes  Complaint")  is  mentioned  by  Wither 
as  one  of  his  earliest  pieces  in  the  catalogue  I  before 
spoke  of,  and  he  there  states  that  it  was  lost  in 
manuscript.  It  was  most  likely  addressed  to  the  lady 
he  alludes  to  in  what  I  just  read,  and  who  rejected 
him.  We  will  proceed  to  the  fourth  Satire  on  Envy, 
where  the  passion  is  thus  happily  described : 

"  But  what  is  this,  that  men  are  so  inclind 
And  subiect  to  it  >     How  may't  be  defin'd  ? 
Sure,  if  the  same  be  rightly  vnderstood, 
It  is  a  griefe  that  springs  from  others  good, 
And  vexes  them  if  they  doe  but  heare  tell 
That  other  mens  endeauors  prosper  well : 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  31 

It  makes  them  grieue  when  any  man  is  friended, 
Or  in  their  hearing  praised  or  commended. 
Contrariwise  againe,  such  is  their  spight, 
In  other  mens  misfortunes  they  delight  j 
Yea,  notwithstanding  it  be  not  a  whit 
Vnto  their  profit,  nor  their  benefit. 
Others  prosperitie  doth  make  them  leane  j 
Yea  it  deuoureth  and  consumes  them  cleane : 
But  if  they  see  them  in  much  griefe,  why  that 
Doth  onely  make  them  iocund,  full  &  fat. 
Of  Kingdomes  mine  they  best  loue  to  heare 
And  tragicall  reports  doth  onely  cheere 
Their  hellish  thoughts ;  and  then  their  bleared  eies 
Can  looke  on  nothing  but  blacke  infamies, 
Heprochfull  actions,  and  the  fowlest  deeds 
Of  shame  that  mans  corrupted  nature  breeds : 
For  they  must  wink  when  Vertue  shineth  bright 
For  feare  her  lustre  mar  their  weakned  sight." 

In  the  last  line  her  is  misprinted  their:  it  is  an 
obvious  error,  which  I  corrected. 

MORTON.  And  makes  nonsense  of  the  conclusion 
of  a  fine  passage. 

ELLIOT.  It  is  a  fine  passage  upon  the  whole, 
though  there  are  weak  lines  in  it.  The  qualities  of 
Envy  have  seldom  been  better  described  by  any  of 
the  thousand  writers  that  have  touched  it.  The 
finest  character  that  Churchill  ever  wrote,  I  mean 
that  in  the  beginning  of  his  Rosciad,  is  not  much 
better  than  part  of  what  you  have  just  read. 


32,  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  I  remember  reading  in  old  Gower's 
Confessio  Amantis,  where  he  introduces  the  well 
known  fable  of  ^sop,  the  following  lines  regarding 
Envy,  which  remind  one  of  Wither. 

"  Where  I  my  selfe  may  not  auaile 
To  sene  another  mans  trauaile, 
I  am  right  glad  if  he  be  lette, 
And  though  I  fare  not  the  bet, 
His  sorrow  is  to  myn  herte  a  gaine." 

BOURNE.  And  in  another  place  he  describes  the 
envious  as  "  sicke  of  another  mans  hele,"  which  is 
just  the  same  as  Wither's  line  "  It  is  a  grief  that 
springs  from  other's  good." 

ELLIOT.  That  of  course  has  been  its  chief  cha- 
racteristic from  the  earliest  times,  without  it  it  is  not 
Envy  j  tristitia  de  bonis  alienis.  Churchill,  whom  I 
before  mentioned,  carries  it  one  degree  further ; 

tf  With  that  malignant  envy  which  turns  pale 

And  sickens  even  if  a  friend  prevail/' 
which  is  a  fine  addition,  and  constitutes   his  su- 
periority. 

BOURNE.  Whetstone,  who  is  not  generally  a  fa- 
vourite with  me,  in  his  "  English  Myrror,"  1586,  has 
rather  a  good  saying  on  the  subject  of  Envy :  if  a 
man  "  be  enuious,  (says  he)  he  dare  not  recyte  so 
much  as  the  name  of  enuie  5  the  reason  is,  this  pas- 
sion is  so  fowle  and  infamous,  as  it  stinketh  in  the 
opinion  of  him  that  is  infected  therewith." 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  33 

MORTON.  Is  not  that  "  English  Myrror"  one  of 
the  books  you  promised  to  show  us,  but  have  not 
yet  performed  your  promise  ? 

BOURNE.  Not  that  I  remember,  but  here  it  is  if 
you  wish  to  see  it. 

ELLIOT.  Does  it  contain  any  thing  worth  seeing? 

BOURNE.  Many  things,  but  principally  in  a  histo- 
rical point  of  view,  as  it  refers  to  various  events  in 
the  reign  of  Elizabeth  previous  to  its  date  (1586), 
and  more  especially  to  the  conspiracies  against  the 
Queen.  It  is  called,  "  The  English  Myrror.  A  Re- 
gard, wherein  all  estates  may  behold  the  Conquests 
of  Enuy."  This  is  the  subject  of  the  first  book ;  the 
second  is  called  "  Enuy  conquered  by  Vertue,"  mean- 
ing the  virtue  of  the  Queen,  and  the  third,  "  A  for- 
tresse  against  Enuy." 

MORTON.  Is  any  poetry  interspersed  in  the  vo- 
lume? 

BOURNE.  Yesj  but  not  much,  and  that  bad,  as 
you  can  judge  from  the  subsequent  specimen,  which 
you  may  take  my  word  for  it  is  the  best:  he  has 
been  referring  to  Dionysius  and  Damocles  in  Book  IL 

"  There  is  no  fort  that  seemeth  safe  or  strong, 
There  is  no  fooc}e,  that  yeeldes  a  sauery  tast  j 
The  sweetest  Lute  and  best  composed  song, 
The  chirping  byrds  that  in  the  woods  are  plast 
Sound  no  delight,  but  as  a  man  forlorne, 
The  silent  night  dotli  sceme  an  vgly  hell, 

VOL.  II.  D 


34  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

The  softest  bedde  a  thycket  full  of  thorne, 
Vnto  the  heart  where  tyranny  doth  dwell : 
Whose  mind  presents,  through  horror  and  through 

dread, 
A  naked  sword  still  falling  on  his  head." 

ELLIOT.  Those  lines  certainly  justify  the  opinion 
you  have  given. 

BOURNE.  He  was  but  an  indifferent  poet,  though 
he  wrote  much,  and  particularly  elegiac  or  funeral 
poems,  one  of  which,  on  Sir  P.  Sidney,  I  formerly 
noticed ;  he  refers  to  some  of  these  in  the  dedication 
to  the  third  book  of  his  English  Myrror,  where  he 
says  that  several  "  worthy  personages,  which  in  my 
time  are  deceased,  haue  had  the  second  life  of  their 
vertues  bruted  by  my  Muse." 

MORTON.  Can  you  refer  us  to  any  particular  part 
worth  reading  ? 

BOURNE.  The  whole  is  well  worth  reading  as  a 
work  of  much  study  and  learning,  now  and  then 
diversified  with  a  humorous  tale  or  anecdote  j  as 
the  following  of  a  Vicar  of  Croydon  before  the  re- 
formation, who  kept  a  "  daughter  of  the  game"  in  his 
vicarage,  being  of  course  forbidden  to  marry.  < <  As 
(says  Whetstone)  hee  thought  to  take  away  all  suspi- 
tion  of  his  misbehauiour,  made  a  vehement  Sermon 
against  Lecherie,  and  agravated  the  vengeaunces 
of  that  sinne,  with  all  the  authorities  which  he 
could  recite  in  the  Scripture  5  earnestlie  exhorting 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  35 

his  Parishioners,  to  cleanse  the  towne  of  that  damna- 
ble &  filthie  iniquitie  :  whereuppon  one  of  the 
(  hurch-wardens  (that  knew  the  Viccar  had  violated 
his  vowe)  cryed  out,  Master  Viccar  if  you  will  giue 
vs  example,  by  purging  the  Church-yarde,  wee  will 
bee  careful  to  cleanse  the  rest  of  the  Parish.  The 
Viccar  smelling  the  meaning  of  the  Church-warden, 
pleasantlie  to  huddle  vp  the  matter,  replied  that  the 
Church-warden  spake  without  reason  j  for,  quoth 
he,  the  Church-yarde  is  the  appointed  place  to  re- 
ceiue  the  most  filthie  Carrion  of  the  worlde  j  and 
withall  wished  the  people  not  to  mistake  him,  for  he 
onely  spake  of  the  sinne,  but  meddled  not  with  the 
sinner." 

ELLIOT.  That  is  fair  enough. 

BOURNE.  And  the  author's  application  of  the  jest  is 
better :  I  could  point  out  other  amusing  extracts,  but 
it  is  scarcely  worth  while  now  to  go  out  of  our  way 
for  them.  Speaking  of  Physicians  in  the  first  book 
he  states  that  "  a  gentleman  of  Vennis"  (for  Whet- 
stone had  travelled  in  Italy,  as  he  mentions  else- 
where) "  one  a  time  supping  with  a  Phisition  in 
Padua,  marueiled  that  the  Phisitions,  who  in  shorte 
space  finde  a  remedie  for  the  most  violent  newe 
disease  that  raigneth,  can  not  cure  as  well  as  giue 
ease  to  the  Gowt,  an  auncicnt  maladie.  Which 
doubt,  the  Doctor  thus  pleasauntly  resolued.  O  Sir, 
(quoth  hee)  the  Gowte  is  the  proper  disease  of  the 
riche,  and  wee  liue  not  by  the  poore ;  it  may  suffice 


36  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

that  they  finde  ease;  but  to  prescribe  a  cure,  to 
beggar  our  facultye,  were  a  great  follye." 

MORTON.  And  to  the  present  day  they  have  kept 
up  the  artifice ;  only  with  this  difference,  that  now 
they  seem  to  find  it  their  interest  not  even  to 
give  the  sufferer  any  ease  under  his  torments  from 
"  arthritic  tyranny,"  as  Dr.  Johnson  calls  it  in  one 
of  his  minor  poems. 

ELLIOT.  Massinger,  in  his  "  Emperor  of  the  East," 
has  a  passage  somewhat  similar,  where  Paulinus  is 
discovered  with  the  gout,  attended  by  a  surgeon, 
who  for  a  time  has  lessened  the  acuteness  of  his 
pain ;  Paulinus  says  that  he  would  give  the  moiety 
of  his  fortune  to  ensure  a  continuance  of  his  respite, 
and  the  surgeon  answers, 

"  If  I  could  cure  / 

The  gout,  my  Lord,  without  the  Philosopher's  stone 
I  should  soon  purchase  -,  it  being  a  disease 
In  poor  men  very  rare,  and  in  the  rich 
The  cure  impossible." 

BOURNE.  He  means  impossible  from  the  habitual 
luxuriousness  of  their  habits  :  Whetstone's  Physician 
said  a  cure  was  impossible  from  a  very  different  and 
politic  cause. 

MORTON.  It  would  not  have  done  for  the  surgeon 
to  have  actually  told  Paulinus,  suffering  under  the 
disease,  that  it  was  against  the  interest  of  the  faculty 
to  discover  and  introduce  a  cure. 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  37 

BOURNE.  We  will  now  close  Whetstone's  "English 
Myrror,"  and  before  we  leave  him  just  look  at  his 
"  Mirour  for  Magestrates  of  Cyties,"  1584,  whjch  is 
a  rarer  work,  and  is  directed  against  the  practices  at 
Dicing  Houses,  Taverns,  Ordinaries,  Stews,  &c.  in 
the  city.  The  latter  part  of  this  pamphlet,  called 
"  An  Addition  :  or  Touchstone  for  the  Time,"  is  the 
most  curious,  though  perhaps  not  so  much  so,  as 
the  title  would  lead  one  to  expect.  He  inveighs 
with  great  zeal  against  the  corruptions  of  his  day, 
but  in  terms  rather  too  general,  and  he  had  reason 
to  abuse  them,  for  at  the  end  he  states  that  he  had 
been  a  great  sufferer.  "  No  man  (he  observes)  was 
euer  assaulted  with  a  more  daungerous  strategeme 
of  cosonage  than  my  selfe  with  which  my  life  and 
liuing  was  hardly  beset.  No  man  hath  more  cause 
to  thanke  God  for  a  free  deliuery  than  my  selfe,  nor 
anie  man  euer  sawe  more  suddaine  vengeance  in- 
flicted vpon  his  aduersaries,  than  I  my  selfe  of  mine." 

MORTON.  He  gives  no  particulars,  does  he,  of  his 
narrow  escape  and  signal  revenge  ? 

BOURNE.  None,  but  he  refers  to  his  "  Rocke 
of  Regarde."  I  will  not  go  through  his  violent 
abuse  of  gaming  houses,  ordinaries,  &c.  but  merely 
(as  we  shall  have  occasion  to  look  at  the  tract  again) 
read  the  following  singular  anecdote,  told  of  one  of 
the  judges  of  his  time.  "  Olde  Judge  Chomley 
euennore  aunswered  naughtie  liuers  that  sued  for 
mercie  desiring  him  to  regard  the  frailtie  of  young 


38  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

men  by  the  bolde  and  unlawful  actions  of  his  owne 
youth,  and  by  the  testimonie  of  his  grace,  good  for- 
tune^  and  present  authorise,  to  conceiue  hope  of 
their  amendment :  O  my  friendes,  quoth  the  Judge, 
I  tel  you  plainly  that  of  twentie  that  in  those  dayes 
were  my  companions,  I  onely  escaped  hanging  5  and 
it  is  very  like  that  some  one  of  your  fellowship  is  by 
Gods  goodnesse  reserued  to  be  an  honest  man  j  but 
you  are  found  offenders  by  the  Lawe,  and  truely  Jus- 
tice (whose  sentence  I  am  sworne  to  pronounce)  com- 
maundeth  me  to  commend  your  soules  to  Almightie 
God,  and  your  bodies  to  the  Gallowse." 

ELLIOT.  He  was  determined,  at  all  events,  that 
none  of  those  before  him  should  have  a  chance  of 
reforming,  and  becoming  an  honest  man. 

BOURNE.  Although  Whetstone  was  rather  a  vo- 
luminous author,  there  are  circumstances  to  show 
that  he  was  not  popular,  and  among  them  the  fact 
that  as  his  printer,  Richard  Jones,  could  not  sell  his 
"  Mirour  for,  Magestrates  of  Cyties"  under  that  title 
(though  sufficiently  taking  one  would  have  imagined, 
recollecting  the  great  popularity  of  a  work  well 
known,  and  with  nearly  a  similar  name)  he  re- 
published  it  in  1586  under  the  new  title  of  "  The 
Enemie  of  Vnthryftinesse,  &c.  discouering  the  vn- 
sufferable  Abuses  raigning  in  our  happie  English 
comon  wealth:"  the  title-page  is  the  only  dif- 
ference, as  all  the  body  of  the  work  is  the  identical 
impression  of  1584,  a  number  of  copies  remaining 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  39 

on  hand,  notwithstanding  a  sort  of  advertisement  by 
the  author  at  the  end  of  his  "  English  Myrror." 

MORTON.  Then  it  contains  no  alterations  or  ad- 
ditions of  any  kind. 

BOURNE.  I  was  in  error  when  I  said  that  the  title 
only  was  new,  because  at  the  back  of  it  there  is 
another  novelty  of  some  interest — I  mean  a  list  of 
the  works  which  Whetstone  had  published  up  to 
1586 :  they  are  arranged  as  follows,  but  not  chrono- 
logically, as  you  will  see  in  a  moment. 

"  I  The  Enemie  of  Vnthryftinesse 

2  The  Rocke  of  Regarde 

3  The  honourable  Reputation  and  Morall  Ver- 

tues  of  a  Souldier 

4  The  Heptameron  of  Cyuill  Discourses 

5  The  Tragicall  Gomedie  of  Promos  &  Cassandra 

6  The  lyfe  and  death  of  M.  G.  Gascoyne 

7  The  lyfe  and  death  of  the  graue  &  honorable 

Maiestrat  Sir  Nicholas  Bacon,  late  L.  keeper 

8  The  lyfe  and  death  of  the  good  L.  Dyer 

9  The  lyfe  and  death  of  the  noble  Earle  of  Sussex 
10  A  Mirrour  of  true  Honor  shewinge  the  lyfe, 

death  and  Vertues  of  Frauncis  Earle  of  Bed- 
forde." 

To  these  are  added,  "  Bookes  ready  to  be  printed" 

"  1 1  A  Panoplie  of  deuises 

12  The  English  Mirour 

13  The  Image  of  Christian  lustice." 


40  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

This  list,  not  hitherto  mentioned,  I  apprehend  will 
settle  some  doubtful  points,  as  to  the  works  of 
Whetstone. 

ELLIOT.  But  are  they  worth  settling  ? 

BOURNE.  Perhaps  not,  or  not  worth  much  labour 
in  settling.  In  the  last  page  but  one  of  his  "  Touch- 
stone for  the  Time "  the  author  speaks  of  a  forth- 
coming work  called  "  The  Blessings  of  Peace,"  but 
I  fancy  that  this  was  included  in  the  "  English 
Myrror,"  as  much  of  the  third  book  is  devoted  to 
that  subject. 

ELLIOT.  I  think  you  have  now  had  scope  enough 
for  your  antiquarian  mania,  which  has  been  attended, 
that  I  can  perceive,  with  no  material  advantage, 
unless  it  be  one  to  divert  us  from  the  course  we 
were  pursuing.  How  we  travelled  backwards  from 
Wither  to  Whetstone  I  know  not. 

MORTON.  And  I  very  little  care,  as  long  as  we 
gain  the  object  we  have  in  view. 

BOURNE.  Well,  I  have  done.  We  will  now  return 
to  Wither's  "  Abuses  stript  &  whipt."  I  must  say, 
however,  that  you  have  had  your  share  of  entertain- 
ment out  of  the  jokes  I  read,  both  of  the  Vicar  of 
Croydon,  and  of  the  Physician  and  the  Gout. 

MORTON.  He  is  only  in  the  ordinary  case  j  affect- 
ing a  little  to  despise  what  he  does  not  understand. 
But  let  us  go  on  with  Wither. 

BOURNE.  What  I  am  now  going  to  read  is  in  the 
same  satire  as  our  last  extract :  he  is  touching  upon 
the  manner  in  which  envy  affected  even  him  : 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  41 


"  So  I  haue  found 


The  blast  of  enuy  flies  as  low's  the  ground, 
And  though  it  hath  already  brought  a  man 
Euen  vnto  the  meanest  state  it  can 
Yet  tis  not  satisfi'd,  but  still  diuising 
Which  way  it  also  may  disturbe  his  rising : 
This  I  know  true,  or  else  it  could  not  be 
That  any  man  should  hate  or  enuy  me, 
Being  a  creature  (one  would  thinke)  that's  plast 
Too  low  for  to  be  toucht  with  cniucs  blast : 
And  yet  1  am  5  I  see  men  haae  espi'd 
Some-thing  in  me  too  that  may  be  enui'd  5 
But  I  haue  found  it  now,  and  know  the  matter  j 
By  reason  they  are  rich,  and  lie  not  flatter: 
Yes  3  and  because  they  see  that  I  doe  scorne 
To  be  their  slaue  whose  equall  I  am  borne." 

ELLIOT.  That  is  closed  in  a  fearless  spirit  of  in- 
dependence :  the  whole  extract  is  eloquent. 

MORTON.  It  is  a  touch  of  the  levelling  republican 
which  Wither  afterwards  turned  out  to  be. 

BOURNE.  I  think  you  mistake ;  he  is  there  speak- 
ing only  of  his  equality  with  the  rich  in  being  the 
work  of  God,  with  the  same  faculties  and  under- 
standing. There  is  no  more  republicanism  there 
than  some  of  the  most  loyal,  not  to  say  the  most 
flattering,  poets  have  at  times  expressed.  Skelton, 
who  cannot  be  charged  with  too  much  independence 
of  mind,  even  in  the  reign  of  Henry  VIII.,  speaks 


42  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

quite  as  freely  in  his  interlude  of  "  Magnificence," 
printed  by  Rastell. 

"  Or  how  can  you  proue  that  there  is  felycyte 
And  you  haue  not  your  owne  fre  lyberte ; 
To  sporte  at  your  pleasure  to  ryn  and  to  ryde  ? 
Where  lyberte  is  absent  set  welthe  aside." 

MORTON.  He  is  alluding,  I  fancy,  to  mere  personal 
freedom  from  restraint,  which  is  quite  a  different 
thing.  He  might  state  that  without  any  chance  of 
giving  offence. 

BOURNE.  What  you  say  is  true :  I  allow  too,  that 
throughout  Wither  speaks  with  the  utmost  plain- 
ness, and  gives  more  than  glimpses  of  the  part  he 
was  afterwards  to  take  as  a  supporter  of  a  republican 
government :  for  instance,  the  following  lines  upon 
the  follies  and  vices  of  Kings  are  very  strikingly  in 
point,  and  rendered  more  emphatic  by  Italics. 

"  Princes  haue  these — they  uery  basely  can 

Suffer  themselues  that  haue  the  rule  of  man, 

To  be  oreborne  by  Villaines ;  so  in  steed 

Of  kings  they  stand,  when  they  are  slaues  indeed. 

By  bloud  &  wrong  a  heauenly  Crowne  thei'l  danger, 

T'assure  their  state  heere  (Often  to  a  stranger.) 

They  quickly  yeeld  vnto  the  Batteries 

Of  sly  insinuating  flatteries : 

Most  bountifull  to  fooles— to  full  of  feare, 

And  far  to  credulous  of  that  they  heare : 


MX  Til  CONVERSATION.  43 

So  giuen  to  pleasure,  as  if  in  that  thing 
Consisted  all  the  Office  of  a  King !" 

(Book  II.  Sat.  I.) 

MORTON.  Yet  we  have  seen  that  h$  thought  well 
of  King  James. 

BOURNE.  And  spoke  well  of  him  too,  as  he  does 
only  a  few  lines  afterwards :  he  says  that  he  cannot 
"  but  speak  well"  of  him,  and  that  no  sovereign  had 
ever  less  vanity — about  the  last  weakness,  in  our 
sense  of  the  word,  from  which  we  should  have  been 
inclined  to  exempt  him :  however,  the  poet  applies  it 
in  a  much  more  extended  way. 

ELLIOT.  As  empty  ostentation,  vanity,  or  pride  in 
equipages,  apparel,  and  so  on. 

BOURNE.  Exactly.  As  we  have  seen  how  he  treats 
Princes,  we  will  now  read  a  very  spirited  passage 
about  nobles,  from  the  second  satire  of  the  second 
book,  entitled  Inconstancy. 

«  Nobility 

That  comes  by  birth  hath  most  antiquity, 

Some  thinke  ;  and  tother  (if  at  all 

They  yeeld  as  noble)  they  an  vpstart  call : 

But  I  say  rather  no — his  Noblenessc 

Thats  rais'd  by  Vertue  hath  most  ivorthincsse, 

And  is  most  ancient,  for  it  is  the  same 

By  which  all  Great  men  first  obtaind  their  Fame. 

So  then  I  hope  'twill  not  offend  the  Court, 

That  I  count  some  there  with  the  I'ulgar  sort, 


44  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

And  outset  others :  yet  some  thinke  me  bold, 
Because  there's  few  that  these  opinions  hold  j 
But  shall  I  care  what  others  thinke  or  say? 
There  is  a  path  besides  the  beaten  way !" 

ELLIOT.  Admirable  !  I  know  of  nothing  finer  in 
its  way,  either  ancient  or  modern. 

MORTON.  I  was  afraid  when  we  came  to  the 
lines — 

"  But  I  say  rather  no — his  nobleness 

That's  rais'd  by  virtue  hath  most  worthiness," 

that  he  was  going  to  end  the  sentence  as  he  had 
begun  it;  but  what  a  striking  and  noble  close  is 
formed  by  the  couplet — 

"  And  is  most  ancient — for  it  is  the  same 

By  which  all  great  men  first  obtain'd  their  fame." 

ELLIOT.  It  goes  far  beyond  the  common-place  of 
antiquity — Animus  facit  nobilem,  cui  ex  quacunque 
conditione,  &c. 

BOURNE.  It  is  a  very  noble  thought,  and  produces 
the  better  effect  from  its  being,  as  they  say,  prater 
expectatum.  The  last  two  lines  of  the  quotation  do 
not  fall  short  of  the  rest. 

ELLIOT.  In  Ascham's  "  Schoolmaster"  I  remember 
a  very  eloquent  censure  of  mere  nobility  transmitted 
with  the  blood,  ending  with  these  words,  "  Nobility 
without  virtue  and  wisdom  is  blood  indeed,  but  blood 
truly  without  bones  &  sinews." 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  45 

BOURNE.  Anthony  Stafford,  a  writer  I  have  often 
quoted,  is  not  behindhand  when  he  says,  in  his  Niobe 
dessolud  into  a  Nilus  (1G11),  "I  can  brooke  better 
a  fellow  that  hath  bought  his  new-found  nobility 
with  nobles,  than  another  of  an  high  birth  and  of  a 
low  stooping  spirit,  who  can  iustly  brag  of  nothing  of 
his  owne,  but  liues  upon  the  supererrogative  deeds  of 
his  ancestors." 

MORTON.  I  dare  say  one  might  collect  as  many 
excellent  sayings  upon  this  stale  theme,  as  upon  any 
that  has  been  dwelt  upon  either  in  the  old  time  or  in 
the  nc\\ . 

ELLIOT.  That  Stafford  seems  to  have  been  an 
eloquent  fellow :  I  should  like  to  be  better  acquainted 
with  him.  I  remember  you,  in  a  manner,  proved  that 
Milton  was  well  acquainted  with  his  writings. 

BOURNE.  He  seems  to  have  been  a  strange  wild 
enthusiast,  upon  religious  topics  especially:  as  a 
puritan  he  was  very  much  like  what  Robert  Southwell 
was  as  a  Jesuit. 

ELLIOT.  What  is  the  object  of  his  book  ? 

BOURNE.  It  is  in  two  divisions,  one  called  "Niobe," 
and  the  other  "  Niobe  dissolu'd  into  a  Nilus;"  and  it 
is  a  general  but  vigorous  declamation  against  the 
vices  and  profaneness  of  the  age. — In  his  "  Niobe" 
(p.  1 12),  he  has  the  subsequent  passage  on  the  subject 
to  which  we  have  been  referring,  which  will  give  you 
some  notion  of  his  style.  "  O!  but  Gentry  now 
degenerates !  Nobilitie  is  now  come  to  be  nuda  re- 


46  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

latio,  a  meere  bare  relation  and  nothing  else.  How 
manie  Players  haue  I  scene  vpon  a  stage,  fit  indeede 
to  be  Noblemen !  how  many  that  be  Noblemen,  fit 
onely  to  represent  them. — Why,  this  can  Fortune 
do,  who  makes  some  companions  of  her  Chariot, 
who  for  desert  should  be  lackies  to  her  Ladiship. 
Let  me  want  pittie  if  I  dissolue  not  into  pittie  when 
I  see  such  poore  stuffe  vnder  rich  stuffe  j  that  is  a 
bodie  richlie  clad,  whose  mind  is  capable  of  nothing 
but  a  hunting  match,  a  racket-court,  or  a  cock-pit, 
or  at  most  the  story  of  Susanna  in  an  ale-house. 
Rise,  Sidney,  rise !  thou  Englands  eternall  honour ! 
Reuiue  and  lead  the  reuolting  spirits  of  thy  countrey- 
men,  against  the  basest  foe,  Ignorance.  But  what 
talke  I  of  thee  ?  Heauen  hath  not  left  earth  thy 
equall:  neither  do  I  thinke  that  ab  orbe  condito, 
since  Nature  first  was,  any  man  hath  beene  in  whom 
Genus  and  Genius  met  so  right.  Thou  Atlas  to  all 
vertues !  Thou  Hercules  to  the  Muses !  Thou  patron 
to  the  poor!  Thou  deservst  a  Quire  of  ancient  Bardi 
to  sing  thy  praises,  who  with  their  musickes  melody 
might  expresse  thy  soules  harmonic.  Were  the 
transmigration  of  soules  certaine— I  would  thy  soule 
had  flitted  into  my  bodie  or  wold  thou  wert  aliue 
again,  that  we  might  lead  an  indiuiduall  life  together ! 
Thou  wast  not  more  admired  at  home  then  famous 
abroad ;  thy  penne  and  thy  sword  being  the  Heraldes 
of  thy  Heroicke  deedes."  And  in  this  strain  he  pro- 
ceeds for  several  pages  more. 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  47 

MORTON.  The  style  is  very  peculiar,  and  though 
pedantic  and  affected,  there  is  much  force  about  it. 

BOURNE.  He  is  full  of  rhapsodies,  but  they  are 
eloquent  j  and  he  was  evidently  both  a  very  pious 
and  a  very  learned  man.  There  were  two  editions 
of  his  work,  which  is  now  rarely  to  be  met  with ;  and 
it  seems  that  after  the  first  was  published  (to  which 
the  "  Niobe  Dissolu'd  into  a  Nilus"  was  not  added), 
he  was  not  a  little  ridiculed  for  the  passage  I  have 
just  read,  where  he  appears  to  put  himself  in  com- 
parison with  Sir  Philip  Sidney.  This  angered  him 
not  a  little,  and  accordingly  to  the  second  edition  he 
prefixed  an  address  "  to  the  long-ear'd  Reader,''  in 
which  he  repels  the  charge,  maintaining,  at  the  same 
time,  that  Sir  P.  Sidney  had  actually  shown  himself 
to  him  in  a  vision. 

ELLIOT.  This  was  only  rendering  it  still  more 
laughable. 

BOURNE.  Certainly,  but  he  relates  it  with  the  most 
simple  seriousness,  and  adds,  that  the  "  miracU*  of 
nature"  addressed  him  in  these  terms :  "  Generous 
Gentleman,  whose  neuer-glozing  spirit  this  fawning 
age  will  neuer  reward,  my  soule  bowes  herselfe  to 
thee,  and  breathes  her  loue  vpon  thee,  for  making 
her  immortall  to  all  mortalitie :  a  benefit  for  the 
which  Ingratitude  herselfe  would  yeeld  thanks." 

ELLIOT.  He  was  very  likely  a  man  of  strong  feel- 
ings, but  he  must  have  had  a  weak  judgment  to 
suppose  that  he  would  be  believed  in  this  strange 
story,  even  at  that  credulous  day. 


48  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  He  expressly  says  that  it  will  be  attri- 
buted to  his  wild  and  fervid  imagination,  but  he 
nevertheless  insists  upon  the  perfect  truth  of  what 
he  relates. 

MORTON.  In  turning  over  Wither,  I  have  stumbled 
upon  a  passage  that  refers  to  Sir  Philip  Sidney. 

BOURNE.  It  is  one  which  I  had  intended  to  show 
you,  as  it  mentions  not  only  Sidney  but  Drayton, 
Ben  Jonson,  and  several  other  poets.  Read  it. 

MORTON.  It  is  in  the  third  satire  of  the  second 
book.  He  has  been  speaking  of  King  James's  works, 
and  of  the  general  value  of  poetry  j  that  though  the 
inspiration  is  only  partially  given  to  some  few  in 
this  life,  "  All  shall  have't  perfect  in  the  World  to- 
come,"  and  then  he  proceeds. 

"  This  in  defence  of  Poesie  to  say 

I  am  compel'd,  because  that  at  this  day 

JVecikenesse  and  Ignorance  hath  wrong'd  it  sore  : 

But  what  neede  any  man  therein  speake  more 

Then  Diuine  Sidney  hath  already  done  ? 

From  whom  (though  he  deceas'd  e're  I  begun) 

I  haue  oft  sighed,  and  bewail'd  my  Fate 

That  brought  me  foorth  so  many  yeeres  too  late 

To  view  that  worthy:  And  now,  thinke  not  you, 

Oh  Daniel,  Draiton,  lonson,  Chapman,  how 

I  long  to  see  you  with  your  fellow  Peeres  ; 

Diuine  Siluester,  glory  of  these  yeeres  ! 

I  hitherto  haue  onely  heard  your  fames 

And  know  you  yet  but  by  your  workes  and  names. 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  49 

The  little  time  I  on  the  earth  haue  spent, 
Would  not  allow  me  any  more  content : 
I  long  to  know  you  better  that's  the  truth  j 
I  am  in  hope  youl  not  disdaine  my  Youth" 

ELLIOT.  A  very  amiable,  diffident  young  man,  and 
a  very  laudable  wish. 

BOURNE.  I  do  not  think  that  in  any  thing  I  have 
read  by  Wither,  he  can  be  fairly  accused  of  arrogance, 
though  he  takes  upon  himself  to  lash  the  vices  of 
his  age:  he  knew  that  he  loved  honesty  and  in- 
genuousness, and  hated  fraud  and  artifice,  and  as 
he  could  not  be  mistaken  in  them,  he  speaks  plainly 
and  fearlessly.  His  political  tracts,  in  which  he  at- 
tempts to  produce  certain  changes  and  reforms  in  the 
state,  were  written  at  a  much  more  advanced  period 
of  his  life.  But  we  have  now  seen  as  much  of  his 
satires  as  perhaps  is  necessary :  before,  however,  we 
leave  Sir  P.  Sidney,  introduced  by  Wither,  let  me 
show  you  a  very  great  literary  curiosity. 

MORTON.  By  all  means :  what  is  it  ? 

BOURNE.  I  wish  it  were  a  work  of  more  intrinsic 
merit  j  but,  I  assure  you,  it  is  of  the  rarest  occur- 
rence. 

ELLIOT.  It  generally  happens  that  the  greatest 
rarities  are  of  least  actual  value,  or  why,  as  a  living 
critic  has  asked,  have  they  become  such  rarities? 

BOURNE.  That  rule  will  by  no  means  apply  in  all 
cases. 

VOL.  II.  K 


50  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  Do  not  argue  the  point,  but  produce 
the  book :  my  curiosity  of  one  kind  is  as  great  as 
the  book's  of  another. 

BOURNE.  You  remember  the  funeral  poem  I  brought 
before  you  by  Whetstone  on  the  death  of  Sir  P. 
Sidney ;  this,  in  my,  hand,  is  a  production  of  the 
same  kind  on  the  same  subject. 

MORTON.  By  whom  ? 

BOURNE.  John  Phillip  or  Phillips.  Ritson  intro- 
duces him  into  his  catalogue  as  the  author  of  Cleo- 
menes  and  Sophonisba,  1577  3  but  the  bibliographer 
had  never  seen  nor  heard  of  this  tract,  nor  of  another 
on  the  death  of  the  Countess  of  Lenox,  which  is 
almost  of  equal  rarity. 

MORTON.  Read  the  title,  if  you  please. 

BOURNE.  I  will,  at  length,  for  you  may  never  hear 
it  again.  It  is  this :  "  The  Life  and  Death  of  Sir 
Phillip  Sidney,  late  Lord  Gouernour  of  Flushing: 
His  funerals  Solemnized  in  Paules  Churche  where  he 
lyeth  interred  j  with  the  whole  order  of  the  mourn- 
full  shewe  as  they  marched  thorowe  the  citie  of 
London  on  Thursday  the  16  of  February,  1587.  At 
London.  Printed  by  Robert  Waldegraue,"  &c.  1587. 

MORTON.  And  now  allow  me  to  take  your  relic 
into  my  own  hands. 

BOURNE.  The  dedication,  you  will  see,  is  to  the 
Earl  of  Essex,  and  signed  by  the  author,  but  it  is 
not  worth  reading. 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  51 

ELLIOT.  Tell  us  what  part  of  it  is  worth  reading, 
if  you  please,  and  if  you  can. 

BOURNE.  The  poem  is  in  the  fashionable  style  of 
the  Mirror  for  Magistrates,  Sir  P.  Sidney's  ghost 
very  awkwardly  relating  his  own  story.  I  say 
awkwardly,  because  he  is  made,  not  like  the  ghosts 
in  the  Mirror  for  Magistrates,  to  warn  their  hearers 
by  the  story  of  their  failings,  vices,  and  consequent 
misfortunes,  but  to  recount  his  own  deeds,  and  to 
belaud  his  own  virtues  most  liberally. 

MORTON.  That  is  very  absurd  and  injudicious.  It 
opens,  I  observe,  rather  singularly  -, 

"  You  noble  Brutes  bedeckt  with  rich  renowne." 

ELLIOT.  Upon  my  word,  Phillips  did  not  care 
much  to  conciliate  his  hearers,  when  he  calls  them 
brutes :  however  they  are  "  noble  brutes"  and  "  be- 
deck'd  with  rich  renown." 

MORTON.  That  makes  some  amends.  Phillips 
ought  to  have  been  the  author  of  the  tract  you 
showed  us  on  "  the  Nobleness  of  the  Ass." 

BOURNE.  Of  course  he  means  by  Brutes  Britons, 
the  descendants  of  Brute,  only  two  syllables  did  not 
suit  his  line. 

MORTON.  I  perceive  that  we  shall  stop,  or  be 
stopped,  very  soon  in  our  reading  of  this  production. 

"  You  noble  Brutes  bedeckt  with  rich  renowne, 

That  in  this  world  haue  worldly  wealth  at  will, 
Muse  not  at  me,  though  death  haue  cut  me  downe, 

E2 


53  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

For  from  my  graue  I  speake  vnto  you  still. 
Whilst  life  I  had  I  neuer  meant  you  ill  j 

Then  thinke  on  me  that  close  am  coucht  in  clay 
And  know  I  Hue  though  death  wrought  my  decay. 

"  I  neede  not  I  record  my  bloud  ne  birth, 
For  why?  to  you  my  parentage  is  knowne; 

My  mould  was  clay,  my  substance  was  but  earth 
And  now  the  earth  enioyes  againe  her  owne : 

My  race  is  runne,  my  daies  are  ouerthrowne. 
Yet  Lordings  list,  your  patience  here  I  craue, 
Heare  Sidneis  plea  discussed- from  the  graue." 

ELLIOT.  So  that  the  "  noble  brutes?  after  all,  are 
Lordings.  Upon  my  word  it  is  wretched  stuff. 

BOURNE.  "  Quanta  io  posso  dar  tutto  m  dono."  I 
suppose  he  could  write  nothing  better. 

ELLIOT.  Then  first,  why  write  at  all  ;  and  secondly, 
if  he  wrote,  why  should  we  read  ? 

MORTON.  It  was  worth  thus  much  time,  if  only 
for  the  amusement  Mr.  John  Phillips  has  afforded  us. 

BOURNE.  You  must  hear  two  more  stanzas,  and 
I  have  done :  it  is  from  one  of  the  most  ridiculous 
parts  of  the  piece,  where  Sidney  "  rings  out  a  pane- 
gyric on  himself,"  after  applauding  Queen  Elizabeth 
to  the  seventh  heavens. 

"  In  martiall  feates  I  settled  my  delight ; 

The  stately  steede  I  did  bestride  with  ioy  : 
At  tilt  and  turney  oft  I  tride  my  might, 

In  these  exployts  I  neuer  felt  annoy. 
My  worthie  friends  in  armes  did  oft  imploy 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  M 

Themselues  with  me  to  breake  the  shiuring  speare  j 
But  new  my  want  they  wail  with  many  a  teare. 

"  My  spoused  wife,  my  Lady  and  my  loue 
whilst  life  I  had  did  know  my  tender  hart, 

But  God  that  rules  the  rowling  skies  aboue 
Did  thincke  it  meete  we  should  againe  depart. 

His  will  is  done,  death  is  my  dew  desart ! 

She  wants  her  make,  I  fro  my  deare  am  gon  j 
She  liues  behind  her  louer  true  to  morne." 

MORTON.  That  is  not  quite  such  extravagant 
eulogy  as  I  expected. 

BOURNE.  It  is  only  the  fag-end  of  it,  if  I  may  so 
say :  Sidney  is  very  warm  in  his  admiration  of  him- 
self in  some  places. 

ELLIOT.  Or  rather  his  spirit  is  very  warm  in  its 
admiration  of  his  body :  recollect  they  are  now  di- 
stinct and  separate,  and  one  may  praise  the  other 
without  any  charge  of  egotism. 

BOURNE.  But  perhaps  the  greatest  absurdity  of 
all  is  the  minute  detail  the  spirit  gives  of  the  whole 
solemnity  and  procession  at  the  funeral  of  the  body. 
At  length  the  line,  "  Thus  from  my  grave  I  bid  you 
all  adieu,"  winds  up  the  poem. 

ELLIOT.  Was  it  worth  while  to  interrupt  our  course 
through  the  satirists  for  such  a  production? 

BOURNE.  "  Since  it  is  past,  all  argument  is  vain." 
Now  then  for  Richard  Brathwayte,  a  name  with 
which  you  are  not  unacquainted,  but  whose  volume 


54  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

of  satires  and  other  poems,  I  fancy,  you  have  never 
seen,  for  they  are  much  more  scarce  than  any  of  his 
prose  pieces.  It  will  not  be  necessary,  however,  to 
read  more  than  one  or  two  extracts,  as  he  was  an 
imitator  of  George  Wither,  and  by  no  means  equal 
to  his  prototype.  His  title  is  this:  "Times  Cur- 
taine  drawne  or  the  Anatomic  of  Vanitie  with  other 
choice  Poems,  entituled  Health  from  Helicon ;  by 
Richard  Brathwayte  Oxonian,"  1621. 

MORTON.  I  have  seen  the  title  before,  but  in  what 
way  do  you  trace  the  imitation  of  Wither  ? 

BOURNE.  In  the  general  style  of  the  satires,  and  in 
the  manner  in  which  the  work  is  disposed.  Wither's 
"  Abuses  stript  and  whipt,"  had  attracted  much 
notice,  and  Brathwayte,  early  in  his  production,  pro- 
fesses great  admiration  for  him.  In  one  place  he  says, 
in  allusion  to  the  punishment  Wither  had  met  with, 

"  Tutch  not  Abuses  but  with  modest  lipp 

For  some  I  know  were  whipt  that  thought  to  whip," 

adding  in  the  margin  this  note,  "  One  whom  I  ad- 
mire, being  no  lesse  happie  for  his  natiue  inuention 
than  excellent  for  his  proper  and  elegant  dimension." 
The  latter  part  of  the  compliment  refers  to  Wither's 
finely  proportioned  figure. 

ELLIOT.  Does  Brathwayte  take  warning  by  the 
sufferings  of  Wither,  and  "  touch  abuses  but  with 
modest  lip  ?" 

BOURNE.  I  think  not  j  but  Wither  had  been  libe- 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  55 

rated,  as  some  suppose,  almost  on  a  repetition  of  his 
offence — his  satire  to  the  king;  and  this,  if  true, 
perhaps  made  his  follower  more  bold:  he  is  even 
coarser  than  Wither  in  some  places.  In  his  first 
satire  on  Riches,  he  says  of  the  wealthy,  for  instance, 

"  For  who  are  wise  but  Rich-men,  or  who  can 
Find  the  golden  meane  but  the  golden  man  ? 
He  is  Earth's  darling,  and  in  time  will  be 
Hell's  darling  too;  for  who's  so  fit  as  he?" 

MORTON.  He  takes  care,  I  dare  say,  to  make  his 
satire  general  ? 

ELLIOT.  Yet  Pope  observes, 

"  The  fewer  still  you  name,  you  wound  the  more ; 
Bond  is  but  one,  while  Ilarpax  is  a  score." 

BOURNE.  Or  in  the  words  of  that  satirical  song  in 
"  the  Beggar's  Opera," 

"  Each  cries,  that  was  levell'd  at  me." 

The  subsequent  extract  on  the  subject  of  dress,  will 
show  that  Brathwayte  was  a  writer  of  some  power. 
"  For  who  (remebring  the  cause  why  cloths  were 

made) 

Even  then  when  Adam  fled  vnto  the  shade 
For  couert  of  his  Nakednesse,  will  not  blame 
Himself  to  glorie  in  his  Parents  shame? 
Weepe,  weepe,  ( Phantasticke  Minion)  for  to  thee 
My  grieued  passion  turnes :  O  may  I  be 
Cause  of  conuersion  to  thy  selfe,  that  art 
Compos'd  of  man,  and  therefore  I  beare  part 


56  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

In  thy  distracted  habit:  ougly  peece 

(For  so  I  tearme  thee)  Woman-monster  cease  5 

Cease  to  corrupt  the  excellence  of  minde, 

By  soiling  it  with  such  an  odious  rinde, 

Or  shamelesse  Couer !  Warning  wauering  Moone, 

That  spends  the  morne  in  decking  thee  till  noone! 

Hast  thou  no  other  ornaments  to  weare 

But  such  wherein  thy  lightest  thoughts  appeare? 

Hast  thou  no  other  honour,  other  Fame, 

Saue  roabes  which  make  thee  glory  in  thy  shame  ?" 

ELLIOT.  That  is  strenuous  enough,  and  the  allu- 
sion to  Adam,  with  its  application,  happy. 

MORTON.  He  seems  rougher  than  Wither :  if  he 
do  not  jerk  so  keenly,  he  appears  to  lay  on  his 
scourge  more  heavily. 

BOURNE.  One  more  specimen  from  his  satires  shall 
suffice  for  the  present,  at  least.  It  is  from  the  second, 
where  he  is  adverting  to  the  usual  concomitant  of 
poetry — poverty. 

ELLIOT.  There  is  no  class  of  men  who  complain 
so  bitterly  of  ppverty  as  poets,  who  are  always,  at 
the  same  time,  boasting  that  they  are  above  the  sordid 
love  of  money ;  yet  they  are  always  making  them- 
selves the  objects  of  ridicule  by  their  murmurs. 

BOURNE.  They  complain  most  because,  probably, 
they  feel  most}  and  their  complaints  are  oftenest 
remembered  because  they  perpetuate  them  by  put- 
ting them  in  black  and  white :  but  hear  Brathwayte 
on  this  point. 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  57 

<f  Take  comfort  then,  for  thou  shalt  see  on  earth 

Most  of  thy  coate  to  be  of  greatest  worth ; 

Though  not  in  state,  for  who  ere  saw  but  merit 

Was  rather  borne  to  begge  than  to  inherit  ? 

Yet  in  the  gifts  of  nature  we  shall  finde 

A  ragged  coate  oft  haue  a  Royall  minde  : 

For  to  descend  to  each  distinct  degree 

By  due  experience  we  the  same  shall  see. 

If  to  Parnassus  where  the  Muses  are, 

There  shall  we  finde  their  Dyet  very  bare ; 

Their  houses  ruind  and  their  well-springs  dry, 

Admir'd  for  nought  so  much  as  Pouertie. 

Here  shall  we  see  poore  JEschylus  maintaine 

His  nighterne  studies  with  his  daily  paine, 

Pulling  up  Buckets  but  twas  neuer  knowne 

That  filling  others  he  could  fill  his  owne. 

Here  many  more  discerne  we  may  of  these, 

As  Lamachus,  and  poore  Antisthenes, 

Both  which  the  sweetes  of  Poesie  did  sipp 

Yet  were  rewarded  with  a  staff  and  scrippj 

For  I  nere  knew  nor  (much  I  feare)  shall  know  it, 

Any  die  rich  that  liu'd  to  die  a  Poet." 

MORTON.  It  would  have  been  more  curious  if  he 
had  made  some  allusions  to  those  of  his  own  time 
who  were  sufferers. 

BOURNE.  It  would,  but  he  does  not  hint  at  any  of 
them.  He  writes  always  in  a  bold  and  often  in  an 
energetic  strain :  the  following  six  lines  commence 
a  poem,  in  the  second  division  of  "  Times  Curtaine 
drawne,"  called  "  The  Great-mans  Alphabet." 


58  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

"  Come  hither  Great-man,  that  triumphs  to  see 
So  many  men  of  lower  ranke  to  thee  j 
That  swells  with  honours,  and  erects  thy  state 
As  high  as  if  thou  wer't  Earths  Potentate! 
Thou  whose  aspiring  buildings  raise  thy  name, 
As  if  thou  wer't  the  sonne  and  heyre  of  fame." 

This,  you  will  admit,  is  very  spirited  j  and  most  of 
the  piece  is  not  inferior,  though  of  a  grave,  moral 
cast.  This  is  all  I  think  necessary  to  read  from 
Brathwayte. 

MORTON.  If  I  do  not  mistake,  the  title-page  men- 
tions "  other  choice  poems,  entitled  Health  from 
Helicon," — what  are  they  ? 

BOURNE.  Chiefly  miscellaneous  subjects,  and  not 
very  good. 

MORTON.  Nor  curious  ? 

BOURNE.  Unless  we  except  the  following  passage 
from  one  of  the  pieces,  called  «  Ebrius  Experiens" 
in  which  the  author  attempts  to  vindicate  his  easily 
besetting  sin,  drunkenness. 

ELLIOT.  Let  us  hear  that,  for  as  the  first  Spectator 
says,  we  are  always  deeply  interested  about  the  per- 
sonal appearance,  peculiarities,  and  habits  of  authors : 
Montaigne  too  remarks,  though  with  a  different  ap- 
plication, Je  ne  voisjamais  Auteur  queje  ne  recherche 
curieusement  quelque  il  a  ete. 

BOURNE.  The  lines,  then,  are  these, 

"  Some  say  I  drinke  too  much  to  write  good  lines  j 
Indeed,  I  drinke  more  to  obserue  the  Times, 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  59 

And  for  the  loue  I  bear  vnto  my  friend, 
To  hold  him  chat  than  any  other  end. 
Yea,  my  obseruance  tells  me  I  haue  got 
More  by  discoursing  sometimes  o're  the  pot, 
Than  if  I  had  good  fellowship  forsooke, 
And  spent  that  houre  in  poring  on  a  booke." 

ELLIOT.  There  seems  nothing  very  new  in  his 
arguments,  at  least  in  what  you  have  read. 

BOURNE.  Nor  in  any  of  them.  It  is  only  doing 
exactly  what  Sir  T.  Wyatt  censures  in  some  lines 
quoted  on  a  former  day,  viz.  giving  to  every  vice  the 
name  of  the  nearest  virtue,  "  as  drunkenness  good 
fellowship  to  call." 

ELLIOT.  Brathwayte  then  concludes  the  series  of 
the  English  satirists  you  intend  to  bring  before  us  ? 

BOURNE.  He  does;  but  it  cannot,  with  any  pro- 
priety, be  called  a  series,  for  some  omissions  have 
been  made  by  design,  and  a  few  because  the  books 
were  of  such  extreme  rarity  that  I  could  not  procure 
the  use  of  them. 

MORTON.  You  have  purposely  refrained  from 
touching  upon  translations  from  the  classic  satirists, 
yet,  with  a  view  to  this  subject,  I  borrowed  a  very 
small  tract,  which  my  friend  assured  me  was  seldom 
to  be  met  with,  though  only  a  translation  :  it  is  by 
an  author  I  have  frequently  heard  you  praise — Chap- 
man. 

BOURNE.  Satires  translated  by  Chapman  ?  I  have 
never  seen  any. 


GO  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  Here  is  the  tract,  and  the  following  is 
its  title,  "  A  lustification  of  a  strange  action  of  Nero  5 
in  burying  with  a  Solemne  Fvnerall  one  of  the  cast 
Hayres  of  his  Mistresse  Poppseia.  Also  a  iust  re- 
proofe  of  a  Romane  smell-Feast,  being  the  fifth 
Satire  of  Ivvenall.  Translated  by  George  Chap- 
man," 1629. 

BOURNE.  I  remember  it  now,  but  I  have  never 
seen  the  tract,  and  Ritson  mentions  it  as  two  works, 
when  in  truth  it  is  only  one,  which  proves  that  he 
was  in  the  same  condition.  It  is  a  very  curious  piece 
indeed. 

ELLIOT.  From  that  author  we  have  surely  a  right 
to  expect  something  more  than  curious. 

MORTON.  I  skimmed  it  over  hastily  last  night, 
and  I  am  sorry  to  say  that  I  saw  but  little  in  it  to 
admire. 

BOURNE.  Perhaps  not :  we  are  to  recollect  that  at 
the  time  it  was  printed  the  author  was  not  less  than 
72  years  old,  and  that  during  the  whole  of  his  long 
life  he  had  been  a  laborious  writer,  living  probably 
entirely  by  his  pen. 

MORTON.  Yet  at  the  very  time  when  he  published 
it,  he  tells  us,  in  the  dedication  to  Richard  Hubert 
Esq.,  that  he  has  "  some  worthier  work"  in  hand  : 
the  whole  passage  is  a  singular  one  with  reference  to 
himself  and  his  labours.  He  first  complains,  that 
*'  greate'workes  get  little  regard,"  adding,  "  as  it  is 
now  the  fashion  to  iustifie  Strange  Actions,  I  (vtterly 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  Gi 

against  mine  owne  fashion)  followed  the  vulgar,  & 
assaid  what  might  be  said  for  iustification  of  a 
Strange  Action  of  Nero:"  he  observes  next,  in 
terms,  that  he  throws  out  this  piece  as  a  tub  to  the 
whale,  "  hauing  yet  once  more  some  worthier 
worke  then  this  Oration,  &  following  Translation,  to 
passe  the  sea  of  the  land,  exposed  to  the  land  and 

vulgar  Leuiathan." "  The  rather  because  the 

Translation  containing  in  two  or  three  instances,  a 
preparation  to  the  iustification  of  my  ensuing  in-, 
tended  Translations,  lest  some  should  account  them, 
as  they  haue  my  former  conuersions,  in  some  places 
licences,  bold  ones,  and  vtterly  redundant." 

BOURNE.  His  "  ensuing  intended  Translation," 
I  conjecture,  must  have  been  of  the  whole  of  the 
satires  of  Juvenal  and  Persius,  of  which  this  was  a 
foretaste,  and  which  he  did  not  live  to  complete. 

ELLIOT.  This  tract  before  us  then,  was  his  last 
production.  When  did  he  die,  do  you  recollect  ? 

BOURNE,  Ritson  says,  in  1634,  but  he  refers  to  no 
authority.  Chapman  always,  as  he  has  done  above, 
expressed  a  great  disgust  at,  and  contempt  for,  the 
applause  of  the  vulgar  :  particularly  in  the  prefatory 
matter  to  his  "  Memorable  Masque"  of  the  Middle 
Temple  and  Lincolns  Inn  (1613),  where  he  is  speak- 
ing of  true  poets  and  true  poetry.  "  Euery  vulgarly- 
esteemed  vpstart  dares  breake  the  dreadfull  dignity 
of  antient  and  authenticall  Poesie,  and  presume 
Luciferously  to  proclame  in  place  thereof,  repugnant 


62  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

precepts  of  their  owne  spaune.  Truth  &  Worth 
haue  no  faces  to  enamour  the  Lycentious,  but  vaine- 
glory  and  humor :  the  same  body,  the  same  beauty, 
a  thousand  men  seeing,  onely  the  man  whose  bloud 
is  fitted,  hath  that  which  he  calls  his  soule  ena- 
moured." 

ELLIOT.  Yet  I  dare  say  he  had  not  half  as  much 
reason  for  his  anger  as  Ben  Jonson,  when  in  the 
"  apologetical  dialogue"  subjoined  to  his  "  Poet- 
aster/' in  a  rage  almost  sublime,  he  exclaims, 

"  Oh,  this  would  make  a  learn'd  &  liberal  soul 

To  rive  his  stained  quill  up  to  the  back, 

And  damn  his  long-watch'd  labours  to  the  fire  !" 

But  I  did  not  intend  to  interrupt  you  in  what  you 
were  readingfrom  the  pamphlet  you  brought  with  you. 

MORTON.  In  the  address  "  to  the  Reader,"  Chap- 
man vindicates  what  he  supposes  some  will  consider 
liberties  taken  with,  and  enlargements  of,  his  original, 
observing  that  it  is  "  a  most  asinine  error"  to  sup- 
pose that  translations  to  be  good  must  be  "  in  as 
few  words  and  in  like  order"  as  the  original  author 
employed,  and  upon  one  passage  in  particular  he  re- 
marks with  some  apparent  arrogance,  "  but  the  sense 
I  might  wish  my  betters  could  render  no  worse." 

BOURNE.  Arrogance  !  surely  self-confidence  would 
have  been  a  much  more  applicable  word. 

ELLIOT.  Either,  I  think,  would  there  be  inappli- 
cable, for  Chapman  is  not  talking  of  his  own  capa- 


SIXTH  CONVERSATION.  63 

bility  as  a  poet,  but  merely  of  "  the  sense,"  as  a 
faithful  Tenderer  of  the  work  on  which  he  was  en- 
gaged :  he  claims  to  himself  no  more  merit  than  we 
might  give  to  a  schoolboy. 

MORTON.  On  reading  it  again  I  find  I  did  him  in- 
justice. The  t(  Funerall  Oration"  is  in  fact  a  prose 
satire,  or  burlesque,  upon  treating  trifles  as  matters 
of  serious  importance,  and  it  contains,  in  my  opinion, 
nothing  very  well  worth  reading :  the  translation 
from  Juvenal,  I  fear,  is  not  much  better. 

BOURNE.  We  must  have  a  quotation  from  that, 
although  it  is  merely  a  translation,  and  not  precisely 
within  our  limits,  and  although  it  may  not  be  a  first 
rate  performance  of  the  kind. 

MORTON.  I  think  the  following  lines  some  of  the 
best. 

"  First  take  it  for  a  Rule,  that  if  my  Lord 
Shall  once  be  pleas'd  to  grace  thee  with  his  bord, 
The  whole  reuenues  that  thy  hopes  inherit, 
Rising  from  seruices  of  ancient  merit, 
In  this  requital  amply  paid  will  prooue. 
O  'tis  the  fruit  of  a  transcendent  loue 
To  giue  one  victuals  !     That  thy  Table-King 
Layes  in  thy  dish,  though  nere  so  thinne  a  thing, 
Yet  that  reproch  still  in  thine  eares  shall  ring. 
If  therefore  after  two  moneths  due  neglect 
He  deignes  his  poore  dependent  to  respect, 
And  lest  the  third  bench  faile  to  fill  the  ranck 
He  shall  take  the  vp  to  supply  the  blanck : 


64  SIXTH  CONVERSATION. 

Lets  sit  together  Trebius  (sales  my  Lord) 
See  all  thy  wishes  sum'd  vp  in  a  word ! 
What  canst  thou  aske  at  loues  hand  after  this  ? 
This  grace  to  Trebius  enough  ample  is, 
To  make  him  start  from  sleepe  before  the  Larke 
Poasting  abroad  vntms'd,  &  in  the  darke, 
Perplext  with  feare,  lest  all  the  seruile-rout 
Of  his  saluters  haue  the  round  run  out 
Before  he  come,  whiles  yet  the  fixed  Starre 
Shewes  his  ambiguous  head,  &  heauens  cold  Car 
The  slow  Bootes  wheeles  about  the  Beare. 
And  yet,  for  all  this,  what  may  be  the  cheare  ? 
To  such  vile  wine  thy  throat  is  made  the  sinck 
As  greasie  woll  would  not  endure  to  drink ; 
And  we  must  shortly  looke  to  see  our  guest 
Transform'd  into  a  Berecynthian  Priest." 

ELLIOT.  The  principal  fault  of  that  translation  is, 
that  it  seems  to  be,  if  any  thing,  too  literal :  the 
writer  cramps  himself  miserably  in  some  of  the  lines 
on  this  account. 

BOURNE.  Yet  a  few  of  them  flow  with  sufficient 
ease,  and  the  quotation  just  read  opens  very  well. 

MORTON.  The  whole  is  pointed,  and  more  vigor- 
ous in  some  of  the  expressions  than  might  be  ex- 
pected from  the  age  of  the  author. 

BOURNE.  Then  here  we  close  for  to-day.  To- 
morrow we  will  enter  upon  an  examination  of  a 
variety  of  pieces  of  a  miscellaneous  kind. 


THE 


POETICAL   DECAMERON. 


THE  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 


VOL.  II. 


CONTENTS 

OF  THE  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 


Rarities  provided  for  the  day — Wynkyn  de  Worde's  "  Boke  of 
keruynge,"  and  Mrs.  Glass's  Cookery — "  Epularlo  or  the  Italian 
Banquet,"  1598,  quoted  in  reference  to  Shakespeare,  &c. — 
Thomas  Churchyard,  and  Mr.  G.  Chalmers's  Life  of  him — Ex- 
cessive rarity  of  Churchyard's  u  Miserie  of  Flaunders,  Calamitie  of 
Fraunce,  &c.  Troubles  of  Scotland,"  \c.  ir»7!),  omitted  by  War- 
ton,  Chalmers,  Ritson,  and  all  other  bibliographers — Dedication 
to  the  Queen — Extracts  regarding  the  "  Calamitie  of  Fraunce" — 
Injustice  done  to  Churchyard — Edward  Lewicke's  "  History  of 
Titus  and  Gisippus,"  15C2,  and  its  story  told  by  Boccacio,  Day  X, 
Nov.  8 — Curious  specimens  of  Lewicke's  poetry — Proof,  contrary 
to  Warton's  assertion,  that  Lewicke  did  not  translate  from  Boccacio, 
but  copied  Sir  T.  Elliot's  "  Governor,"  1534 — Quotation  from 
Churchyard  regarding  the  "  Troubles  of  Scotlande" — On  "  the 
blessed  state  of  England,"  from  the  same — Churchyard's  concern 
in  the  Flemish  wars  detailed  in  one  of  his  tracts  printed  in  1578 — 
Spenser's  allusion  to  him  in  "  Colin  Clout's  come  home  again," 
and  Churchyard's  appropriation  of  it  in  his  "  Pleasaunt  Discourse 
of  Court  and  Warres,"  1596,  with  his  applause  of  Spenser — His 
"  Tragedy  of  Shore's  Wife,"  and  the  word  tragedy,  so  used,  ex- 
plained— Jervis  Markham's  "  Most  Honorable  Tragedy  of  Sir 
Richard  Grinuile  Knight,"  1595:  only  one  copy  of  it  existing,  and 
its  enormous  price — Description  of  it — Address  "  to  the  Fayrest" 
— Extract  from  the  body  of  the  poem — The  manner  of  Sir  R. 
Grenville's  death  disputed — Quotations  from  a  prose  tract,  dated 
in  1591,  relating  to  the  conflict  in  which  he  fell,  and  especially  to 
his  death— Robert  Markham's  "  Description  of  that  euer  to  be 
famed  Knight,  Sir  John  Burgh,"  1C28:  its  absurdity — A  MS. 

F  2 


68  CONTENTS. 

poem  by  Sir  R.  Grenville,  «  In  praise  of  Seafaringe  Men,"  dis- 
covered  and  quoted-Henry  Constable's  four  un-repnnted  Sonnets 
«  to  Sir  Philip  Sidney's  soule,"  before  the  "  Apologie  of  Poetne 
of  1595— Omission  of  them  in  Lord  Thurlow's  recent  republica- 
tion-Edward  Wootton-Sir  Henry  Wootton's  earliest  produc- 
tion—Bastard's Chrestokros,  1598,  cited,  regarding  him  and  nsh- 
ing-Dr.  Donne's  "  Progresse  of  the  Soule,"  and  Rabelais- 
Trajan  a  fisherman-Izaac  Walton  and  an  unknown  poem  called 
"  The  Love  of  Amos  and  Laura,"  1C19,  dedicated  to  him—The 
dedication  extracted— Second  edition  of  Marston's  "  Pigmalions 
Image,"  1619— Opening  lines  of  "  The  Love  of  Amos  and  Laura," 
with  observations-Further  extract-"  Alcilia:  Philoparthens 
louing  Folly,"  of  the  same  date,  and  in  the  same  volume— On 
love-poems— R.  Wilmot's  "  Tancred  and  Gismunda,"  1592,  and 
Spenser  referred  to— Philoparthen  on  the  inconsistency  of  lovers— 
Who  was  Philoparthen?— Division  of  his  work— Specimen  from 
it:  further  quotation— Description  of  his  mistress,  from  the  same, 
with  criticisms— Dr.  Edes,  Dean  of  Worcester,  an  epigrammatist 
according  to  Bastard— Minor  poets  of  Elizabeth's  reign— Barnabe 
Googe;  his  translation  of"  the  Zodiac  of  Life,"  and  "  the  Popish 
Kingdom,"  1570—"  A  new  yeares  gifte,"  attributed  to  him  by 
Ritson,  not  his— His  "  Prouerbes  of  Sir  James  Lopez  de  Men- 
doza,  Marquis  of  Santillana,"  &c.  1579— Its  existence  doubted- 
Quotations  from  it  in  praise  of  women,  and  on  Cato  and  Mni'ius 
Sccevola Rowland  Broughton's  poem  on  the  death  of  the  Mar- 
quis of  Winchester,  1572,  noticed  by  Beloe— Character  of  Queen 
Elizabeth  by  John  Phillips,  in  his  poetical  tract  on  the  death  of 
the  Countess  of  Lenox  in  1577. 


THE 


POETICAL  DECAMEKON. 


THE  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

ELLIOT.  Having  gone  through  all  the  English  sa- 
tirists, as  far  as  you  thought  necessary,  what  is  our 
bill  of  fare  to-day  ? 

BOURNE.  If  you  were  that  which  you  are  not,  an 
absolute  helluo  librorum,  your  phrase  from  the  table 
d'hote  might  be  perfectly  in  character :  to  follow  it 
up,  as  I  am  to  be  caterer,  I  have  provided  a  variety 
of  dishes. 

MORTON.  Rare  and  highly  seasoned,  I  hope. 

ELLIOT.  We  need  not  fear  that,  they  will  be  savoury 
enough.  The  fault  of  these  musty,  greasy,  worm- 
eaten  relics  generally  is,  that  they  are  a  little  too  high. 

MORTON.  Yet  you  seem  to  have  learnt  to  relish 
them  much  better  than  when  first  we  began  our  con- 
versations. 

BOURNE.  To  drop  the  figure,  here  is  a  small  pile 
of  books  of  a  miscellaneous  character  that  I  have 
looked  out  for  our  amusement,  which  contains  no- 


70  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

thing  but  literary  curiosities : — I  mean  that  their 
extreme  rarity  is  even  more  distinguishing  than  the 
positive  and  intrinsic  value  of  several  of  them. 

ELLIOT.  Then  in  what  order  are  we  to  take  them, 
or  are  we  to  proceed  for  the  present  without  system  ? 

BOURNE.  I  apprehend  that  you  will  find  in  our 
progress  something  of  the  "  order  in  confusion"  of 
the  poet,  for  most  of  the  tracts  are  connected  in  one 
way  or  another. 

MORTON.  If  they  were  not,  it  would  not  much 
signify  j  therefore  let  us  enter  upon  the  examination 
of  this  small  pile  of  books,  as  you  call  it,  without 
loss  of  time.  Who  is  the  first  author?  "  Tho. 
Churchyard,  Gent." 

BOURNE.  Stay :  if  I  am  to  be  at  the  head  of  the 
table,  you  must  allow  me  to  carve,  or,  at  least,  to 
direct  the  order  of  the  feast.  You  must  be  content 
to  take  them  as  the  several  dishes  are  placed  before 
you,  and  not  according  to  your  own  fancy. 

MORTON.  I  presume  that  you  will  be  the  last  to 
abandon  ancient  usages  in  this  respect,  and  that  all 
your  operations  will  be  governed  by  Wynkyn  de 
Worde's  "  Boke  of  keruynge." 

BOURNE.  Of  course,  and  I  shall  follow  his  sage 
recommendation  under  the  head  "  seruice,"  that 
before  you  begin  to  carve,  you  should  "  Take  your 
knyfe  in  your  hade." 

ELLIOT.  In  the  very  spirit  of  the  celebrated  Mrs. 
Glasse,  "  Take  an  old  hare  that  is  good  for  nothing 
else,"  or  Swift's 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  71 

"  Take  a  knuckle  of  veal, 
You  may  buy  it  or  steal." 

BOURNE.  With  Wynkyn  de  Worde's  directions  on 
carving,  and  the  instruction  of  "  Epulario  or  the 
Italian  Banquet,"  (1589)  as  to  the  preparation  and 
arrangement  of  my  banquet,  I  shall  now  order  the 
covers  to  be  removed. 

MORTON.  First  letting  us  a  little  more  into  the 
secret  about  that  book  you  call  Epulario. 

BOURNE.  Here  it  is,  at  your  service,  and  you  will 
find  it  nothing  more  than  an  old  cookery  book,  afford- 
ing a  little  amusement  on  account  of  the  strangeness 
of  some  of  the  dishes :  for  instance  the  following, 
"  To  make  Pies  so  that  the  Birds  may  be  aliue  in 
them  and  flie  out  when  it  is  cut  vp." 

ELLIOT.  That  is  certainly  of  the  utmost  value, 
being,  no  doubt,  the  origin  of  that  famous  old  ballad, 
the  delight  alike  of  babies  and  bibliographers  -, 

"  Sing  a  song  of  sixpence,  a  pocket  full  of  rye, 
Four  and  twenty  blackbirds  baked  in  a  pie  -, 
When  the  pie  was  open'd  the  birds  began  to  sing, 
Was  not  that  a  dainty  dish  to  set  before  the  king?" 

Read  it  by  all  means. 

BOURNE.  I  will,  a  part  of  it  j  not  to  gratify  your 
love  of  ridicule,  but  because  it  affords  a  happy  note  of 
illustration  to  Shakespeare's  expression,  "  a  custard 
coffin"  in  his  "  Taming  of  the  Shrew."  "  Make  (says 
the  translator  of  Epulario,  for  it  is  from  the  Italian), 


72  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

the  coffin  of  a  great  Pie  or  pasty,  in  the  bottome 
whereof  make  a  hole  as  big  as  your  fist,  or  bigger  if 
you  will  j  let  the  sides  of  the  coffin  be  somewhat 
higher  then  ordinary  Pies,  which  done  put  it  full  of 
flower  and  bake  it,  and  being  baked  open  the  hole 
in  the  bottome  and  take  out  the  flower." 

MORTON.  And  put  the  living  birds  in  its  place, 
that,  I  take  it,  is  the  great  secret. 

BOURNE.  You  have  guessed  it  exactly,  and  we 
need  read  no  more  of  it. 

MORTON.  While  on  the  "  antiquities  of  nursery 
literature"  (a  subject  rendered  important  by  the 
Quarterly  Reviewers),  let  me  ask,  if  you  know  with 
what  veneration  you  ought  to  look  upon  some  noted 
lines  in  "  Mother  Goose's  Melodies." 

ELLIOT.  What  edition?  A  most  interesting  in- 
quiry !  What  lines  do  you  allude  to  in  that  splendid 
and  delightful  work — splendid  from  its  Dutch-gold 
binding,  and  delightful  from  its  classical  subjects. 
What  are  they? 

MORTON.  Those  pathetic  elegiac  verses, 

"  Three  children  sliding  on  the  ice 

All  on  a  summer's  day, 
It  so  fell  out,  they  all  fell  in, 

The  rest  they  ran  away,"  &c. 

They  are  nearly  200  years  old,  and  are  to  be  found, 
with  some  variations,  at  the  end  of  a  travestie  of 
the  story  of  Hero  and  Leander  which  I  met  with  the 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  73 

other  day.   It  was  published  between  1640  and  1650, 
but  I  forget  the  precise  date. 

BOURNE.  If  it  be  no  older  than  that,  it  is  not 
of  much  consequence,  though  the  various  readings 
perhaps  might  still  be  worth  noting. — As  I  suppose 
we  have  now  done  with  these  interesting  matters, 
we  may  proceed  to  the  order  of  the  day. 

MORTON.  Your  "  order  in  confusion" — the  feast 
you  have  provided  for  us  j  only  I  hope  it  will  not  be 
like  the  "  Roman  smell-feast,"  of  which  we  read  in 
Chapman's  translation  from  Juvenal.  Do  not  tanta- 
lize us  with  the  mere  odour  of  your  cates,  without 
allowing  us  to  taste  them. 

BOURNE.  You  need  be  under  no  apprehensions  of 
that  kind.  As  yo*u  took  up  Thos.  Churchyard's  tract 
first,  we  may  begin  with  him. 

ELLIOT.  And  begin  with  him  by  telling  us  who  he 
was.  His  name  is  not  at  all  familiar  to  my  ears. 

BOURNE.  Perhaps  not,  for  though  he  was  a  very 
voluminous  author,  he  has  been  very  much  neglected 
until  of  late,  when  Mr.  G.  Chalmers  took  him  under 
his  patronage,  and  reprinted  most  of  his  pieces  re- 
lating to  Scotland. 

MORTON.  And  prefixed  his  life,  as  far  as  the  par- 
ticulars could  be  ascertained,  did  he  not  ? 

BOURNE.  Yes,  collecting  them  with  much  industry 
and  accuracy. — Churchyard  began  writing  in  the 
reign  of  Edward  VI.,  but  1559  is  the  earliest  date  of 
any  extant  and  known  performance  by  him,  and  he 
did  not  cease  to  publish  until  after  the  death  of 


74  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

Elizabeth.  Here  is  Mr.  Chalmers's  production,  and 
at  the  end  of  the  biographical  sketch  you  will  find  a 
long  list  of  Churchyard's  pieces,  which,  generally 
speaking,  is  accurate,  with  however  one  very  im- 
portant omission. 

MORTON.  That  is  singular,  for  I  suppose  there  are 
few  men  of  more  knowledge  or  research  upon  these 
subjects  than  Mr.  Chalmers. 

BOURNE.  Unquestionably :  the  omission  was  of 
the  more  consequence  to  him,  because  the  work  of 
Churchyard  he  has  not  included,  and  had  of  course 
not  seen  (but  which  is  now  before  us)  contains  a 
tolerably  long  poem  on  the  "  Troubles  of  Scotland," 
which  Mr.  Chalmers  would  not  have  failed  to  quote 
in  his  book  had  he  been  aware  of -its  existence.  It 
is  also  omitted  by  Warton  and  Ritson,  and  after 
them  by  all  writers  on  our  old  poets. 

ELLIOT.  That  sufficiently  proves  its  great  rarity. 
What  do  you  call  it  ? 

BOURNE.  "  The  Miserie  of  Flavnders,  Calamitie 
of  Fraunce,  Misfortune  of  Portugall,  Vnquietnes  of 
Jrelande,  Troubles  of  Scotlande :  And  the  blessed 
State  of  Englande.  Written  by  Tho.  Churchyarde, 
Gent.  1579."  Imprinted  at  London  for  Andrewe 
Maunsell.  The  size,  you  see,  is  the  old  small  quarto, 
and  it  consists  of  only  20  leaves. 

MORTON.  If  all  those  subjects  are  treated  it  must 
be  very  compendious,  or  contain  a  great  deal  in  a 
little  compass. 

BOURNE.  They  are  treated  separately  but  sumina- 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  75 

rily.  The  dedication  is  "  To  the  Queenes  most  ex- 
cellent IMaiestie,  Thomas  Churchyard  wisheth  all 
heauenly  blessednesse,  worldly  felicitie  and  vnre- 
mouuble  good  Fortune."  The  first  sentence  is  worth 
reading,  as  it  refers  to  the  object  of  the  writer's  un- 
wearied literary  labours  :  "  Hauing"  (says  he)  "  a 
duetifull  desire,  moste  redoubted  soueraigne,  to  be 
daily  exercised  in  some  seruisable  deuice  and  action 
(that  maie  please  my  Prince  and  countrey)  I  neither 
spare  paines  nor  season  to  purchase  through  practise 
of  pen,  and  studie  of  heade  my  desired  hope,"  and 
in  the  end  he  states  this  tract  to  be  one  of  several 
new  years'  gifts  of  the  same  kind  he  had  made  to 
Elizabeth. 

ELLIOT.  The  topics  adverted  to  in  the  title-puge 
seem  interesting :  are  they  well  handled  ? 

BOURNE.  Some  of  them  are,  making  allowances 
for  the  early  date  of  the  performance  :  Churchyard, 
generally,  has  had  injustice  dene  to  him,  because  his 
readers  compared  his  works  with  those  of  Daniel 
or  Drayton,  when  in  fact  he  began  to  write  nearly 
half  a  century  before  them,  and  had  formed  his 
style  upon  older  and  less  improved  models. 

MORTON.  He  himself  claims  the  authorship  of 
some  of  the  poems  by  "  uncertain  authors/'  in,  Tot- 
tel's  Miscellany  of  1557- 

BOURNE.  He  does,  though  they  cannot  now  be 
separated:  he  was  for  some  time  in  the  service  of 
Lord  Surrey.  He  should  be  estimated,  therefore, 


76  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

by  a  comparison  with  writers  about  that  date,  and 
not  with  later  poets,  because  it  was  his  misfortune 
not  to  die  until  1604. — You  must  not  fail  to  bear 
this  in  mind  while  I  read  the  following  quotation 
from  that  part  of  the  tract  before  us  that  relates  to 
the  "  Calamitie  of  Fraunce." 

"  Thei  lost  in  feeld  two  hundreth  thousande  men, 
Yet  still  their  mindes  on  murther  ran  so  faste 
Thei  went  about  nothying  but  bloodshed  then 
To  fight  it  out,  as  long  as  life  might  laste  5 
Revenge  did  woorke  &  weaue  an  endlesse  webbe 
Desire  of  will,  a  wofull  threede  did  spinne, 
The  floode  of  hate,  that  neuer  thinks  of  ebbe, 
A  swellyng  Sea  of  strife  brought  gushing  in. 
The  rooted  wrathe  had  spred  such  braunches  out, 
That  leaues  "of  loue  were  blasted  on  the  bowe, 
Yet  spitfull  twiggs  began  so  faste  to  sprout 
That  from  the  harte  the  tree  was  rotten  throwe. 
No  kindly  sappe  did  comforte  any  spraie, 
Both  barke  &  stocke  and  bodye  did  decaie : 
So  that  it  seemde  the  soile  infected  was 
With  malice  moods  that  smells  of  mischief  greate. 
Their  golden  lande,  was  tournde  to  rustic  Bras, 
And  eche  thyng  wrought,  as  God  had  curst  the  seate : 
The  groud  thought  scorne  to  bryng  forth  frute  in 

time, 

The  Vines  did  rotte,  the  blade  would  beare  no  come, 
Like  Winter  foule  became  the  Sommers  Prime, 
The  pleasant  plotts  brought  forth  wilde  brier  &  thorn 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  77 

With  Raine  &  storme  the  lande  was  vexed  still : 
The  ire  of  God  the  people  could  not  shunne, 
Great  grewe  the  greef  that  came  by  headstrong  will, 
And  all  these  plagues  by  proude  conceit  begonne, 
That  thought  to  rule  perhapps  past  reasons  lore  5 
Threate  that  who  please,  my  muse  not  framde  there- 
fore." 
ELLIOT.  It  begins  better  than  it  concludes  : 

"  The  flood  of  hate  that  never  thinks  of  ebb, 
A  swellyng  Sea  of  strife  brought  gushing  in," 

is  very  good,  as  well  as  the  introductory  lines  3  but 
Churchyard  afterwards  runs  his  figure  of  the  tree  off 
its  legs. 

MORTON.  He  carries  it  out  injudiciously  into  the 
minutitz;  neither  does  it  seem  very  clear-why  because 
"  spiteful  twigs  began  so  fast  to  sprout"  it  should 
follow,  that  "  from  the  heart  the  tree  was  rotten 
through.'" 

BOURNE.  It  certainly  looks  like  a  non  sequitur, 
unless  we  reflect  that  we  often  see  shoots  and  twigs 
more  flourishing  upon  a  tree  whos*e  heart  is  rotten, 
than  on  another  that  is  sound  ;  and  for  this  reason, 
that  the  "  kindly  sap"  ascending  up  the  bark  has 
only  to  nourish  those  shoots  and  twigs  and  not  the 
main  trunk,  which  is  decayed. 

ELLIOT.  At  any  rate  you  have  made  an  ingenious 
reconcilement  of  the  matter. 

BOURNE.  The  following  additional  extract,  from 


78  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

the  same  division  of  the  poem,  is  remarkable  for  its 
applicability  to  transactions  within  our  own  memory 
during  the  French  Revolution. 

"  O  Frounce,  who  lookes  vpon  thy  bloodie  waies, 

And  notes  but  halfe  the  pageant  thou  hast  plaied, 

Will  be  therefore  the  wiser  all  their  daies, 

Or  at  the  least,  will  howrely  bee  afraied 

To  plaie  suche  pranks  as  thou  poore  Fraunce  hast 

doon: 

Thou  hadst  a  tyme  and  wretched  race  to  run 
For  others  weale,  that  can  good  warnyng  take  5 
Thy  neighbours  have  had  laisure  to  regarde 
The  harms  of  thee,  and  so  a  mirrour  make 
Of  thy  greate  doole  and  dulfull  destinie  hard. 
Can  greater  plagues  bee  seen  in  any  soile 
Then  reuell  rage  and  hauocke  euery  waie  ? 
A  ciuille  warre,  with  wicked  waiste  &  spoile  $ 
A  deadlie  botche  that  striks  stoute  harte  by  daie 
And  kills  by  night  the  harmles  in  his  bedde : 
O  ciuill  warre,  thou  hast  a  Hidras  hedde ; 
A  Vipers  kinde,  a  Serpentes  nature  throwe, 
A  Spider's  shape,  a  forme  of  vglie  Tode, 
A  Deulishe  face,  a  shamelesse  blotted  browe, 
A  bloodie  hande  at  home  &  eke  abrode." 

ELLIOT.  The  greater  portion  of  that  extract  is 
singularly  applicable  to  events  almost  of  our  own 
day  j  for  the  poetry  much  cannot  be  said  j  there  is 
little  choice  or  originality  in  the  epithets. 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  7<J 

MORTON.  The  description  of  civil  war  is  a  curious 
compound :  it  begins  with  a  horse's  head  and  ends 
in  a  fish's  tail  with  a  vengeance. 

BOURNE.  But  risum  teneatis  principally  for 'the 
reason  I  have  already  stated  :  many  of  the  lines  are 
by  no  means  deficient  in  spirit  j  indeed  what  relates 
to  France  is  the  best  part  of  the  whole  pamphlet. 
In  some  degree  to  show  in  what  way,  and  how  far 
old  Churchyard  has  had  injustice  done  him,  I  will 
refer  you  to  the  work  of  an  actual  contemporary, 
which  will  illustrate  the  point,  and  is,  at  the  samt 
time,  a  most  singular  curiosity :  a  production  of 
greater  rarity  cannot  easily  be  mentioned,  and  it  re- 
cently sold  for  a  sum  very  little  short  of  the  price 
obtained  for  Micro-cynicon,  the  unique  volume  of 
satires  I  showed  you  the  other  day. 

ELLIOT.  I  hope  it  was  better  worth  the  money — 
I  mean  intrinsically,  for  I  allow  the  value  of  Micro- 
cynicon  as  one  link  in  the  chain  of  satirists. 

BOURNE.  I  would  not  have  you  expect  too  much 
from  the  tract  in  my  hand,  although  the  story  to 
which  it  refers  has  been  excellently  told  by  Boccacio 
(Gior.  X.  Nov.  8.)  You  remember  it,  I  dare  say : 
it  is  that  of  Titus  and  Gisippus.  Warton  (H.  E. 
P.  III.  4C8.)  asserts  that  this  author  translated  from 
Boccacio,  but  this  is  not  the  fact,  as  I  will  convince 
you  presently. 

ELLIOT.  But  who  is  the  author  of  your  English 
version  of  the  tale  ?  he  showed  some  judgment  in 
selecting  an  interesting  fable. 


80  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  His  name  is  Edward  Lewicke,  and  I  am 
afraid  that  what  you  have  mentioned  is  the  principal 
merit  that  critical  charity  can  allow  him.  The  title 
of  his  book  is  the  following :  "  The  most  wonderful 
and  pleasaunt  History  of  Titus  andGisippus,  whereby 
is  fully  declared  the  figure  of  perfect  frendshyp : 
drawen  into  English  metre  By  Edwarde  Lewicke. 
Anno  1562." 

MORTON.  He  seems  very  modest — he  only  pre- 
tends to  have  "  drawn  it  into  English  metre,"  he 
sets  up  no  claim  on  the  score  of  poetry.  According 
to  Ritson,  I  perceive,  a  considerably  elder  poet,  of 
the  name  of  William  Walter,  had  translated  the 
story  into  verse. 

BOURNE.  And  some  specimens  may  be  found  in 
Dibdin's  Ames,  (II.  338.)  Notwithstanding  the 
better  models  that  Lewicke  possessed,  and  the  ad- 
vance poetry  had  made  under  the  authors  of  Tottel's 
Miscellany,  his  translation  is  not  much  better  than 
the  version  by  Walter.  Lewicke's  opening  stanza  is 
this  : 

"  There  was  in  the  city  of  Rome 
A  noble  man  hight  Fuluius ; 
A  Senatour  of  great  wisdome 
One  of  the  chiefest,  the  truth  is  thus, 
He  had  a  sonne  named  Titus, 
An  apter  child  could  not  be  found 
(As  witty  men  did  there  discus) 
For  learning  going  on  the  ground/ 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  81 

MORTON.  The  form  of  the  stanza  seems  by  no 
means  happily  chosen,  requiring  four  similar  rhymes, 
especially  when  we  recollect  that  our  language  was 
not  at  that  time  so  pliable  as  to  be  easily  wrought 
into  strange  shapes. 

ELLIOT.  However,  let  us  hear  a  little  more  of  it : 
one  stanza  will  not  enable  us  to  form  a  judgment 
even  of  the  versification. 

MORTON.  I  have  but  an  indistinct  recollection  of 
the  story.  Titus  and  Gisippus  were,  I  know,  two 
friends,  the  first  a  Roman  and  the  last  a  Greek,  who 
studied  under  the  same  master  at  Athens,  and  be- 
came enamoured  of  the  same  lady. 

BOURNE.  Yesj  and  Gisippus  was  about  to  be  mar- 
ried when  Titus  fell  in  love  with  his  intended  bride, 
and  Gisippus,  who  seems  to  have  preferred  his  friend 
to  his  wife,  resigned  his  claim.  Titus  returns  to 
Italy,  leaving  Gisippus  in  Athens,  who  soon  afterwards 
becomes  a  poor  wanderer  and  reaches  Rome :  there  he 
sees  Titus,  who  is  living  in  great  splendor,  and  ima- 
gines that  he  will  not  condescend  to  recognize  him, 
or  in  the  modern  phrase,  that  Titus  cut  him.  Gisip- 
pus first  resolves  to  destroy  himself,  but  abandoning 
that  purpose,  falls  into  a  sort  of  trance  in  a  barn. 
At  night  a  robber,  who  had  committed  a  murder, 
takes  the  knife  of  the  sleeping  Gisippus,  and  dipping 
it  in  the  blood,  returns  the  instrument  to  the  hand 
of  the  owner,  who  is  soon  afterwards  charged  with 
the  crime.  On  his  trial,  Titus,  for  the  first  time, 

VOL.  ii.  <; 


82  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

recollects  Gisippus,  and  to  save  his  friend  accuses 
himself  as  the  guilty  man :  the  real  murderer,  who 
was  in  the  crowd,  conscience-struck,  avows  his 
offence j  he  is  pardoned,  and  of  course  the  two 
friends  end  their  days  in  the  utmost  happiness.  This 
is  the  outline  of  the  story,  which  has  been  very 
similarly  worked  up  by  different  authors.  Goldsmith 
has  told  it  very  elegantly  under  different  names  in 
his  Bee. 

ELLIOT.  It  is  by  no  means  one  of  the  best  even  of 
the  serious  tales  of  Boccacio,  and  he  introduces  a 
tremendously  long  harangue  into  the  middle  of  it. 

BOURNE.  So  does  your  name-sake,  Sir  Thomas 
Elliot,  from  whose  prose  narrative  Lewicke  almost 
copied,  as  I  will  prove  after  you  have  heard  the 
following  stanzas  from  one  of  the  most  interesting 
parts :  what  I  have  said  of  the  story  will  make  them 
intelligible. 

"  There  in  a  sorie  simple  state, 
Gisippus  thence  away  did  trudge, 
Cursing  his  chance  infortunate. 
Oh  lord,  thought  he,  what  man  wold  iudge 
Titus  to  haue  bene  such  a  snudge, 
From  whom  I  suffer  all  this  smart  ? 
Gisippus  thus  at  him  did  grudge 
Thinking  for  euer  to  depart," 

MORTON.  The  wretched  rhyme  of  snudge  shows  to 
what  shifts  the  author  was  driven  by  his  stanza. 
What  is  the  meaning  of  that  word  ? 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION  83 

BOURNE.  Lewicke  might  have  supplied  Mr.  Todd 
with  an  authority  for  it,  who  truly  explains  it  to  be 
a  "  sneaking  fellow/'  but  he  furnishes  no  quotation  : 
you  interposed  in  the  middle  of  a  sentence ;  the  tale 
proceeds,  Gisippus  being  determined  te  for  ever  to 
depart," 

"  From  Rome  and  wander  the  desert 
As  a  beast  with  madnes  possest : 
But  yet  he  was  well  faine  to  start 
(Being  with  werines  opprest) 
Into  an  old  barne  to  take  rest, 
Where  he  falling  flat  on  the  ground 
Drew  out  his  knife,  &  thought  it  best 
To  geue  himself  a  deadly  wounde. 

But  wisdome  did  his  wil  so  drounde 
That  from  that  act  it  did  him  kepe, 
Until  he  fell  into  a  sounde 
Or  (as  god  would  as  he  did  slepe) 
Into  a  sad  and  slumbring  slepe : 
His  knife,  wherwith  he  would  haue  slain 
himself,  downe  by  his  side  did  stepe. 
In  the  meanetime  a  thefe  certaine, 
Which  was  a  commen  ruffian  playne, 
And  had  both  robbed  and  slaine  a  man, 
Thought  in  that  barne  for  to  remaine, 
To  hide  him  selfe  that  night  j  but  whan 
He  sawe  a  wretch,  bewept  and  wan, 
On  slep  and  a  knife  by  his  side, 

G  '2 


84  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

He  toke  the  knife  and  quietly  than 
Towardes  the  dead  man  he  did  glide. 

Into  his  wound  both  depe  and  wide 
(Which  at  that  time  did  freshlye  blede) 
He  put  the  knife,  thinkinge  to  hide 
His  owne  vile  acte  and  mischeuous  dede ; 
And  brought  it  all  blodie  with  spede 
To  poore  Gysippus  where  he  laye 
Aslepe  and  put  it  (without  drede) 
Into  his  hand  and  went  his  way." 

ELLIOT,  That  is  mere  narration :  it  is  perspicuous, 
and  it  aims  at  nothing  more. 

BOURNE.  For  that  perspicuity,  and  even  for  some 
of  his  very  words  and  phrases,  Lewicke  was  in- 
debted, not  to  Boccacio  (we  cannot  allow  him  that 
credit),  but  merely  to  Sir  T.  Elliot's  "  Governor," 
which  was  first  published,  I  believe,  in  1534,  and 
between  that  date  and  1580  went  through  8  or  10 
editions.    A  few  sentences  will  enable  you  to  make 
a  sufficient  comparison.     "  And  therwith  drew  his 
knife,  purposing  to  haue  slain  him  selfe.     But  euer 
wisedome  (whiche  he  by  the  study  of  Philosophy 
had  attaied)  withdrew  him  frome  that  desperate 
acte.    And  in  this  contencion  &c.  or  as  god  wolde 
haue   it,  he   fell  into  a  depe  slepe.      His  knife 
(wherwith  he  woulde  haue  slaine  him  self)  falling 
down   by  him.    In   the  meane  time  a  commune 
and   notable    rufia    or  thefe  whiche    had    robbed 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  «'» 

and  slaine  a  man,  was  entred  into  the  barne,  where 
Gisippus  laie  j  the  entente  to  soiorne  there  all  that 
nyghte.  And  seeing  Gisippus  bewept,  and  his 
visage  replenished  with  sorrowe,  and  also  the  naked 
knife  by  him,  perceiued  well,  that  he  was  a  man 
desperate,  &  surprised  with  heauinesse  of  herte  was 
werye  of  his  life  :  which  the  saied  rufyan  takyng  for 
a  good  occasion  to  escape,  toke  the  knife  of  Gisippus 
and  putting  it  in  the  wound  of  him  that  was  slain, 
put  it  all  bloody  in  the  hand  of  Gisippus,  beyng  faste 
a  slepe,  and  so  departed." 

ELLIOT.  There  is  not  only  a  strong  resemblance 
throughout,  but  a  perfect  identity  in  some  passages. 
Warton  was  certainly  in  an  error. 

BOURNE.  It  is  not  worth  while  to  read  any  more 
from  Lewicke's  production  j  what  we  have  seen  will 
fully  answer  the  purpose  for  which  I  brought  it  for- 
ward. At  the  end  is  the  following  colophon :  "  Im- 
printed at  London  by  Thomas  Hacket,  and  are  to  be 
solde  at  hys  shop  in  Lumbarde  Streete."  Mr.  Dibdin 
(Ames  IV.  581.)  had  never  seen  the  book,  and  calls 
it  a  4to.,  when,  in  fact,  it  is  only  an  8vo.  We  may 
now  return  to  Churchyard :  the  following  lines  are 
from  that  part  of  his  tract  which  treats  of  the 
"  Troubles  of  Scotlande,"  and  are  part  of  what  Mr. 
Chalmers  would  have  inserted  in  his  reprint  had  he 
known  of  the  existence  of  such  a  poem. 

"  Shall  man  that  hath  the  reason  to  forbeare 
Be  worse  then  beast  ?     O  God  that  fault  forbid  ! 


86  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION 

Shall  malice  find  a  place  and  succour  there, 
Where  Gods  greate  gifts  ought  lie  like  treasure  hid  ? 
Shall  harts  of  men  (the  temple  of  the  Lorde) 
Lodge  murther  vile,  &  nourish  foule  discorde  ? 
Shall  those  that  knowes  what  lawe  &  peace  is  worth 
Breake  Lawe  &  Peace,  and  breede  dessention  still  ? 
The  tree  is  bad  that  bryngs  suche  braunches  forth, 
The  hedds  are  vaine,  that  showes  no  deeper  skill  j 
The  ground  is  nought  that  breeds  such  scratting 

brers, 
And  soile  not  good  where  murther  still  appers." 

ELLIOT.  That  is  not  exactly  quasi  divino  quodam 
spiritu  inflatum. 

BOURNE.  I  do  not  pretend  that  it  is  5  Chnrchyard 
is  there,  grave  and  didactic,  and  you  must  not  expect 
him  at  any  time  to  write  in  the  florid  and  ambitious 
style  of  the  "  towering  falcon,"  Fitzgeffrey :  he  was 
a  poet  of  quite  another  class,  as  well  as  of  a  dif- 
ferent age. 

ELLIOT.  What  does  he  say  of  the  «  blessed  state 
of  England  ?"  That  will  of  course  be  interesting. 

BOURNE.  I  am  afraid  that  it  will  not  exactly  suit 
your  taste. 

"  Here  haue  we  scope  to  skippe  or  walke, 

to  ronne  &  plaie  at  base ; 
Still  voide  of  feare,  and  free  of  minde, 

in  euery  poincte  and  cace. 
Here  freends  maie  meete  and  talke  at  will, 

the  Prince  &  Lawe  obaied j 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  8? 

And  neether  strange  nor  home  borne  childe, 

of  Fortune  stands  afraied. 
Here  hands  doe  reape  the  seeds  thei  sowe, 

and  heads  haue  quiet  sleeps ; 
And  wisedome  gouerns  so  the  worlde, 

that  reason  order  keeps. 
Here  mercie  rules,  and  mildnesse  raigns 

and  peace  greate  plentie  bryngs  j 
And  solace  in  his  sweetest  voice 

the  Christmas  carrowle  syngs. 
Here  freends  maie  feast,  and  triumphe  too, 

in  suertie  voide  of  ill ; 
And  one  the  other  welcome  make 

with  mirthe  and  warme  good  will. 
The  ground  it  bryngs  suche  blessyng  forthe, 

that  glad  are  forraigns  all, 
Amid  their  want  and  hard  extreems 

in  favour  here  to  faull : 
Here  wounded  staets  doe  heale  their  harms 

and  straungers  still  repaire  j 
When  mischief  makes  them  marche  abroad, 

and  driue  them  in  dispaire. 
Here  thousands  haunt  and  finde  releef, 

that  are  in  heauie  cace, 
And  friendly  folke  with  open  armes 

doeth  sillie  soules  embrace. 
Here  thyngs  are  cheape,  and  easly  had, 

no  soile  the  like  can  showe  5 
No  state  nor  Kyngdome  at  this  daic 

doeth  in  such  plentie  flowe. 


88  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

The  trau'lar  that  hath  paste  the  worlde, 
and  gone  through  many  a  lande  : 

When  he  comes  home,  and  noets  these  thyngs 
to  heauen  holds  vp  hande  j 

And  museth  how  this  little  plotte 

can  yeeld  suche  pleasures  greate : 

It  argues  where  suche  graces  growe, 
that  God  hath  blest  the  seate." 

ELLIOT.  I  like  that  better  than  you  seem  to  do ; 
there  is  a  great  air  of  cheerfulness  and  contentment 
about  it :  the  quotation  affords  a  very  lively  arid  plea- 
sant picture  of  the  condition  of  the  kingdom  under 
Queen  Elizabeth. 

BOURNE.  I  am  inclined  to  think  that  this  pro- 
duction, on  the  whole,  is  one  of  the  best  that  has 
proceeded  from  Churchyard's  pen.  However,  we 
have  now  gone  through  all  that  it  is  worth  our 
while  to  read  from  it. 

MORTON.  It  appears  from  his  "  True  Discourse 
historical  of  the  succeeding  Governors  in  the  Nether- 
lands" of  1G02,  that  he  was  most  importantly  con- 
cerned in  the  wars  of  the  Low  Countries :  does  he 
say  nothing  material  regarding  them  in  that  part  of 
the  tract  before  you,  referring  to  "  the  Misery  of 
Flanders  ?" 

BOURNE.  Nothing  worth  reading,  I  assure  you : 
in  another  work  by  him,  printed  in  1578,  and  called 
"  a  Lamentable  and  pitifull  Description  of  the  wofull 
warres  in  Flanders,"  he  enters  into  more  details  than 
in  1602,  and  in  the  dedication  of  it  to  Sir  F.  Wai- 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  89 

singham,  he  mentions  his  design  to  publish  the 
tract  on  which  we  are  now  engaged.  Ifr  shows  that 
some  of  the  most  learned  men  who  write  about 
books  never  read  them,  or  Mr.  Chalmers  from  hence 
would  have  been  put  upon  the  scent  for  "  the 
Miserie  of  Flavnders,"  &c. 

ELLIOT.  That  is  not  a  matter  of  great  conse- 
quence. Was  Churchyard  in  much  repute  with  his 
contemporaries  ? 

BOURNE.  That  point  is  treated  in  Chalmers's  Life, 
and  you  will  find  that  while  Gabriel  Harvey  abuses 
him,  Thomas  Nash  greatly  applauds  his  "  Tragedy 
of  Shores  Wife."  There  is,  however,  one  poet  of 
the  highest  rank,  I  mean  Spenser,  who  bestows  a 
few  compassionate  lines  upon  him  in  his  "  Colin 
Clouts  come  home  again  :"  this  is  not  mentioned  by 
Chalmers. 

MORTON.  Lord  Buckhurst,  Drayton,  Alabaster, 
Daniel,  and  others,  are  there  alluded  to,  but  I  do  not 
recollect  Churchyard. 

BOURNE.  The  following  four  lines  refer  to  him  : 

"  And  there  is  old  Palemon  free  from  spight 
Whose  carefull  pipe  may  make  the  hearer  rew  j 
Yet  he  himselfe  may  rewed  be  more  right, 
WTho  sung  so  long  until  quite  hoarse  he  grew." 

ELLIOT.  As  Churchyard  is  not  named,  how  do  you 
prove  that  the  allusion  is  to  him — by  inference  ? 

BOURNE.  The  description  is  almost  sufficient, 
though  it  docs  not  seem  to  have  occurred  to  Mr. 


9O  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

Todd  when  he  published  his  edition  of  Spenser. 
But  it  is  put  beyond  a  doubt  by  the  following  stanza 
in  Churchyard's  "  Pleasaunt  Discourse  of  Court  & 
Wars,"  1596,  which  I  found  on  looking  over  a 
variety  of  his  productions.  He  is  speaking  of  the 
Court,  which  he  says  is 

"  The  platform  where  all  Poets  thriue, 
Saue  one  whose  voice  is  hoarse  they  say; 
The  stage  where  time  away  we  driue, 
As  children  in  a  pageant  play  j 
To  please  the  lookers  on  sometime 
With  words,  with  bookes,  in  prose  or  rime/' 

ELLIOT.  That  fixes  the  description  upon  him  very 
satisfactorily.  "  Colin  Clouts  come  home  again," 
was  published  in  1595. 

.  BOURNE.  In  his  "  Challenge,"  1 593,  Churchyard 
had  praised  Spenser  ' '  in  a  new  kind  of  Sonnet,"  the 
novelty  of  which  consists  in  all  the  lines  but  the 
two  last  (twenty-two  in  number)  rhyming  to  the 
words  war  and  show.  He  drearily  laments,  at  the 
same  time,  his  own  incompetence,  and  the  folly  of 
his  young  overweening  ambition.  It  is  scarcely 
worth  the  trouble  of  reading,  but  you  may  find  it  in 
Cens.  Lit.  II.  p.  309. 

ELLIOT.  You  mentioned  just  now  "  the  Tragedy 
of  Shore's  Wife"  by  Churchyard.  Did  it  come  upon 
the  stage,  or  has  Howe  availed  himself  of  it  in  his 
"Jane  Shore?" 

BOURNE.  You  mistake ;  the  word  tragedy  there 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  91 

does  not  mean  a  dramatic  composition :  it  refers  to 
his  Legend  of  Jane  Shore,  in  the  Mirror  for  Magi- 
strates ;  many  poems  of  a  tragical  nature,  but  not 
at  all  in  the  form  of  plays,  were  at  that  time  called 
Tragedies  :  Dante  (Inf.  XX.  113),  in  the  same  way, 
makes  Virgil  speak  of  his  Mneid  as, 

L'alta  mia  Tragedia  in  alcun  loco,  &c. 
and  he  further  explains  the  application  of  the  word 
in  his  work  Delia  volgare  Eloquenza — Per  tragccdiam 
super  iorem  stilum  induimus,  per  comccdiam  inferiorem, 
per  elegiam  stilum  intelligimus  meserorum. 

MORTON.  Jervis  Markham's  Tragedy  of  Sir  R. 
Grenville  is  precisely  in  point  j  and  some  account  of 
the  contents  of  that  poem  (which,  indeed,  you  pro- 
mised us),  will  better  illustrate  the  matter  than  any 
quotation  you  can  make. 

ELLIOT.  I  am  rather  curious  to  see  that  produc- 
tion, from  the  lavish  praise  Fitzgeffrey  bestows  upon 
it  in  the  quotation  we  read  from  his  "  Drake*'  in  our 
first  conversation. 

BOURNE.  I  remember  I  told  you  at  the  time,  that 
the  applause  was  far  beyond  what  Markham's  poem 
deserved,  and  I  have  no  objection  now  to  establish 
my  assertion  by  a  few  quotations.  As  to  your  see- 
ing the  book  itself,  that  is  out  of  the  question,  as 
but  one  copy  of  it  is  known,  and  that,  if  I  mistake 
not,  is  now  in  the  possession  of  the  Hon.  T.  Gren- 
ville, whose  family  is  descended  from  the  hero  of 
the  poem. 


92  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  In  what  way  did  he  obtain  it? 

BOURNE.  As  you  might  have  done,  if  you  would 
have  bid  high  enough — at  an  auction.  It  was  sold 
among  the  books  of  the  late  Mr.  Bindley,  and  came 
previously  out  of  the  collection  of  Major  Pearson. 
Mr.  Grenville  gave  no  less  a  sum  for  it  than  40/.  19s. 
though  only  the  size  of  a  very  small  modern  18mo. 

ELLIOT.  How  extravagantly  dear ! 

BOURNE.  On  the  contrary,  bibliomaniacs  thought 
it  shamefully  cheap,  and  the  purchaser  would  have 
given  much  more  for  it  rather  than  not  have  secured 
it.  The  title  runs  thus,  "  The  Most  Honorable 
Tragedie  of  Sir  Richard  Grinuile  [Knight. — Brarno 
assai,  poco  spero,  nulla  chieggio. — Printed  by  J. 
Roberts  for  Richard  Smith  1595." 

MORTON.  Then  Markham's  name  does  not  appear. 

BOURNE.  Not  upon  the  title-page,  but  the  de- 
dication to  et  Lord  Montioy,"  which  immediately 
follows,  is  signed  "  leruis  Markham:"  it  is  suc- 
ceeded by  three  sonnets,  the  first  to  the  Earl  of 
Sussex,  the  second  to  the  Earl  of  Southampton  (in- 
serted in  Rest.  III.  414),  and  the  third  to  Sir  Edward 
Wingfield.  Next  we  have  "  the  argument  of  the 
whole  Tragedie,"  to  which  are  subjoined  "  faults 
escaped  in  printing." 

ELLIOT.  How  minute  you  are  in  your  description ; 
as  if  the  ( '  faults  escaped  in  printing"  would  give  us 
a  better  idea  of  the  merit  of  the  poem. 

BOURNE.  I  should  not  be  so  particular  if  the  poem 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  93 

had  ever  been  described  before  j  but,  excepting  the 
sonnet  to  Lord  Southampton,  no  part  of  it  has  ever 
been  reprinted  or  quoted.  A  new  leaf  is  headed, 
"  The  most  honorable  Tragedie  of  Sir  Richard 
Grinuile  Knight,"  and  under  it  an  address  "  To  the 
Fayrest,"  which,  I  suppose,  means  the  poet's  mistress. 

MORTON.  Not  "  to  the  fairest"  Elizabeth,  the 
queen ;  the  subject  (according  to  Mr.  Chalmers,  in 
his  "  Supplemental  Apology")  of  the  Sonnets  of 
Spenser  and  Shakespeare. 

BOURNE.  Noj  it  is  certain  that  Markham  means 
some  other  female,  to  the  full  as  beautiful,  by  the 
following  stanza  in  the  address : 

"  To  thee  fyire  Nymph,  my  life,  my  loue,  my  gaze, 
My  soules  first  mouer,  essence  of  my  blisse, 
Thought-chast  Dictinna,  Natures  only  maze, 
Heauen  of  all  whatever  heauenlie  is ; 
More  white  than  Atlas  browe  or  Pelops  blaze, 
Compleat  perfection  which  all  creatures  misse  : 
More  louelie  than  was  bright  Astioche 
Or  Ivnos  hand-mayd  sacred  Diope" 

This  is  the  more  clear,  because  in  the  last  stanza  but 
one  of  this  part  of  the  poem,  he  expressly  turns  to 
Elizabeth, 

"  And  with  her  thou  great  Souereigne  of  the  earth, 
Onelie  immatchlesse  monarchesse  of  harts !" 

MORTON.  I  suppose  you  can  afford  us  some  quota- 
tion from  the  body  of  Markham's  work  ? 

BOURNE.  Yes ;  in  the  following  stanzas  the  poet 


94  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

is  describing  Sir  R.  Grenville's  eagerness  to  enter 
into  the  engagement  with  the  Spaniards. 

"  Looke  how  a  wanton  bridegroome  in  the  morne 
Busilie  labours  to  make  glad  the  day, 
And  at  the  noone,  with  wings  of  courage  borne 
Recourts  his  bride  with  dauncing  and  with  play, 
Vntill  the  night,  which  holds  meane  blisse  in  scorne, 
By  action  kills  imaginations  swayj 

And  then,  euen  then,  gluts  and  confounds  his 
thought 

With  all  the  sweets,  conceit  or  Nature  wrought. 

"  Even  so  our  Knight,  the  bridegroome  vnto  Fame, 

Toil'd  in  this  battailes  morning  with  unrest 

At  noone  triumph'd,  and  daunst  and  made  his  game, 

That  vertue  by  no  death  could  be  deprest  $ 

But  when  the  night  of  his  loues  longings  came, 

Euen  then  his  intellectual  soule  confest 

All  other  ioyes  imaginarie  were 

Honour  vnconquer'd,  heauen  and  earth  held  deare. 

"  The  bellowing  shotte  which  wakened  dead  mens 

swounds, 

As  Dorian  musick  sweetened  in  his  eares : 
Ryuers  of  blood,  issuing  from  fountaine  wounds, 
He  pytties  but  augments  not  with  his  teares. 
The  flaming  fier  which  mercilesse  abounds, 
Hee  not  so  much  as  masking  torches  feares; 
The  dolefull  Eccho  of  the  soules  half  dying 
Quicken  his  courage,  in  their  banefull  crying." 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  95 

ELLIOT.  It  seems,  as  well  as  we  can  judge,  much 
in  the  same  puffed-up  and  heightened  strain  as  Fitz- 
geffrey,  only  the  latter  exceeded  his  prototype. 

BOURNE.  Markham  goes  on  in  a  similar  style  for 
a  few  more  stanzas,  and  then  he  represents  Mis- 
fortune  (who  is  personified)  descending  to  destroy  Sir 
Richard  Grenville  :  the  poet  exclaims  5 

"  O  why  should  such  immortall  enuie  dwell 
In  the  inclosures  of  eternall  mould  ? 
Let  Gods  with  Gods,  and  men  with  men  rebell 
Vnequall  warres,  vnequall  shame  is  soul'd  j 
But  for  this  damned  deede  came  shee  from  Hell 
And  loue  is  sworne,  to  doe  what  dest'nie  would : 
Weepe  then  my  pen,  the  tell-tale  of  our  woe, 
And  curse  the  fount  from  whence  our  sorrowes 
flowe." 

ELLIOT.  Most  assuredly  nothing  you  have  read 
warrants  the  extravagant  eulogium  by  Fitzgeffrey. 

"  Quaintly  he  hath  eternized  his  acts 
In  lasting  registers  of  memory 
Even  co-eternall  with  eternity ; 
So  that  the  world  envies  his  happy  state 
That  he  should  live  when  it  .is  ruinate." 

MORTON.  Markham's  last  stanza  ends  with  a  very 
paltry  conceit.  In  what  way  does  Misfortune  execute 
her  fearful  mission  ? 

BOURNE.  Not  very  poetically — by  taking  a  musket 
and  mortally  wounding  Sir  It.  Grenville. 


96  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

ELLIOT.  Writing,  as  he  did,  so  soon  after  the 
event,  Markham  was  probably  confined  too  much  by 
the  truth  of  history  to  be  able  to  terminate  his  poem 
differently. 

MORTON.  You  remember,  perhaps,  what  Racine 
says  in  the  preface  to  his  Bajazet,  that  to  a  poet  the 
distance  of  the  country  where  his  scene  is  laid,  is  of 
much  the  same  use  as  the  lapse  of  time,  car  le  peuple 
ne  met  guere  de  difference  entre  ce  qui  est  &  mille  ans 
de  lui,  et  ce  qui  est  a  mille  lieues.  According  to  this 
rule,  Markham  might  fairly  have  availed  himself  of 
some  poetical  licence  in  describing  the  death  of  his 
hero. 

ELLIOT.  That  of  course  must  depend  upon  the 
notoriety  of  the  facts.  Racine's  remark  applies 
merely  to  dramatic  poetry,  and  to  the  respect  enter- 
tained by  audiences  for  the  heroes  of  tragedies — 
major  e  longinquo  reverentia. 

BOURNE.  It  seems  agreed  on  all  hands,  that  Sir  R. 
Grenville  was  shot,  but  the  time  and  mode  of  his 
death  are  disputable.  Camden,  in  his  Annals,  touches 
the  matter  very  briefly  j  but  here  is  a  scarce  con- 
temporary pamphlet  relating  to  this  very  conflict :  it 
purports  to  be  "  A  Report  of  the  Truth  of  the  Fight 
about  the  lies  of  the  Azores  this  last  Summer  Be- 
twixt the  Revenge,  one  of  her  Maiesties  Shippes, 
and  the  Armada  of  the  King  of  Spaine."  It  was 
printed  in  1591,  and  in  it  the  manner  of  the  death 
of  Sir  R.  Grenville  is  differently  related.  I  do  not 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  97 

think  that  the  poet  does  justice  to  his  subject :  you 
will  find  by  the  extracts  I  am  going  to  read,  that 
ample  room  was  afforded  him.  The  fleet  was  under 
the  conduct  of  Lord  T.  Howard,  Sir  R.  Grenville 
being  vice-admiral  in  the  Revenge.  Camden  charges 
him  with  fool-hardy  bravery  j  and  certain  it  is,  that 
while  Lord  T.  Howard  was  enabled  to  escape  from 
the  very  superior  force  of  the  enemy,  consisting  of 
nearly  sixty  ships  of  various  sizes,  Sir  R.  Grenville, 
according  to  the  pamphlet,  was  obliged  to  sustain 
the  brunt  of  the  battle,  and  fell  foul  of  the  San  Philip, 
an  enormous  vessel  of  15OO  tons,  with  "  three  tire 
of  ordinance  on  a  side,  and  eleven  pieces  in  euerie 
tire/'  and  shooting  "  eight  forth-right  out  of  her 
chase,  besides  those  of  her  sterne  ports." 

MORTON.  What  was  the  size  and  force  of  the 
Revenge  ? 

BOURNE.  That  does  not  appear,  but  it  seems  that 
the  odds  were  fearful,  as  the  English  crews  were 
sick,  and  many  on  shore  :  this  is  a  part  of  the  rela- 
tion. "  After  the  Revenge  was  entangled  with  this 
Philip,  foure  other  boorded  her;  two  on  her  larboord 
and  two  on  her  starboord.  The  fight  thus  beginning 
at  three  of  the  clocke  in  the  after  noone,  continued 
verie  terrible  all  that  evening.  But  the  great  San 
Philip  hauing  receyued  the  lower  tire  of  the  Revenge 
discharged  with  crossbarshot,  shifted  her  selfe  with 
all  diligence  from  her  sides,  vtterly  misliking  her 
first  entertainment After  many  interchanged 

VOL.  II.  H 


98  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

volleies  of  great  ordinance  and  small  shot,  the  Spani- 
ards deliberated  to  enter  the  Revenge,  and  made 
divers  attempts,  hoping  to  force  her  by  the  multitudes 
of  their  armed  Souldiers  and  Musketiers,  but  were 
still  repulsed  againe  and  againe,  and  at  all  times 
beaten  backe  into  their  own  shippes,  or  into  the 
seas. . . .  After  the  fight  had  thus  without  intermis- 
sion cotinued  while  the  day  lasted,  and  some  houres 
of  the  night,  many  of  our  men  were  slaine  and  hurt, 
and  one  of  the  great  Gallions  of  the  Armada,  and  the 
Admirall  of  the  Hulkes  both  sunke,  and  in  many 
other  of  the  Spanish  ships  great  slaughter  was  made. 
Some  write  that  sir  Richard  was  verie  dangerouslie 
hurt  almost  in  the  beginning  of  the  fight,  and  laie 
speechlesse  for  a  time  ere  he  recouered.  But  two  of 
the  Reuenges  owne  companie,  brought  home  in  a 
ship  of  Lime  from  the  Ilandes,  examined  by  some 
of  the  Lords  and  others,  affirmed  that  he  was  neuer 
so  wounded  as  that  hee  forsooke  the  vpper  decke, 
til  an  houre  before  midnight}  and  then  being  shot 
into  the  bodie  with  a  Musket  as  he  was  a  dressing, 
was  againe  shot  into  the  head,  and  withall  his  Chirur- 
gion  wounded  to  death." 

MORTON.  I  see,  by  reference,  that  that  statement 
agrees  with  what  Camden  relates,  but  he  adds  some- 
thing about  sinking  the  Revenge. 

BOURNE.  He  seems  to  have  confounded  the  two 
accounts  of  the  death  of  Sir  R.  Grenville :  this  pam- 
phlet asserts  that  there  was  a  second  statement  of 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  99 

that  catastrophe,  viz.  that  Sir  Richard,  in  despair  of 
escaping  or  defeating  the  enemy,  prevailed  upon  the 
master  gunner  to  split  and  sink  the  ship  with  all  the 
crew,  they  having  consented  j  but  terms  being  sent 
from  the  Spaniards,  the  men  were  induced  to  change 
their  resolution,  and  they  and  their  commander  were 
conveyed  on  board  the  enemy.  On  the  second  or 
third  day  Sir  Richard  died  of  his  wounds ;  and  the 
pamphlet  adds,  "  the  comfort  that  remaineth  to  his 
friendes  is,  that  he  hath  ended  his  life  honourably  in 
respect  of  the  reputation  wonne  to  his  nation  and 
country,  and  of  the  same  to  his  posteritie,  and  that 
being  dead,  he  hath  not  outliued  his  owne  honour." 

ELLIOT.  The  prose  tract  ends  more  poetically  than 
Markham's  poem,  and  the  whole  narrative  of  the 
unequal  contest  seems  distinct  and  striking. 

BOURNE.  It  is :  there  are  parts  of  the  "  Tragedy 
of  Sir  R.  Grenville"  that  are  really  very  poor,  but  as 
a  whole,  I  think,  it  is  better  than  the  same  author's 
"  Devoreux  or  Virtues  Tears  for  the  loss  of  the  most 
Christian  King  Henry/'  &c.  1597,  from  which  I  had 
intended  to  show  you  some  specimens,  had  I  not 
found  that  the  poem  has  already  been  analyzed  and 
criticised  elsewhere. 

MORTON.  Did  not  Markham  write  a  poem  of  the 
same  elegiac  kind  on  one  Sir  John  Burgh  ?  I  think  I 
have  seen  the  title  in  some  catalogue. 

BOURNE.  I  know  what  you  allude  to :  that  was 
by  Robert  Markham,  and  it  was  not  printed  until 

H2 


100  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

1628.  I  do  not  know  that  this  author  was  any  relation 
to  Jervis  Markhamj  there  is  an  apparent  relation- 
ship in  their  styles,  with  this  difference,  that  Robert 
exaggerates  to  the  utmost  extravagance  of  absurdity 
all  the  worst  faults  of  Jervis.  I  am  sure  that  the 
subsequent  lines  from  the  opening  of  the  "  De- 
scription of  that  euer  to  be  famed  Knight  Sir  John 
Burgh/'  will  be  all  the  specimen  of  his  talents  you 
will  ever  wish  to  see. 

"  If  teares  could  tell  the  story  of  my  woe, 
How  I  with  sorrow  pine  away  for  thee, 
My  spungie  eyes  their  bankes  should  ouerflow 
And  make  a  very  Moore  or  Mire  of  me  j 
I  would  out  weepe  a  thousand  Nyobyes, 
For  I  would  weepe  till  I  wept  out  my  eyes. 

"  My  heart  should  drop  such  teares  as  did  thy  wound, 
And  my  wound  should  keepe  consort  with  my  heart  j 
In  a  red  Sea  my  body  should  be  drown'd, 
My  gall  should  breake  and  beare  a  bitter  part, 
Such  crimson  Rue  as  I  would  weepe  should  make 
Democrates  himselfe,  a  wormewood  Lake." 

ELLIOT.  That  is  incomparably  absurd,  to  be  sure. 
The  excess  of  his  grief  makes  one's  sides  ache  with 
laughing  at  it.  This  is  a  special  instance  of  the 
t(  faulty  sublime,"  of  which  Upton  speaks,  and 
which  he  says  is  so  much  better  than  "  a  faultless 
mediocrity." 

BOURNE.  It  would  not  improve  your  opinion  of 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  101 

the  taste  of  bibliomaniacs,  if  I  were  to  tell  you  what 
this  trash  sold  for,  not  a  year  ago,  among  the  curiosi- 
ties of  an  eminent  collector. 

MORTON.  It  is  worth  something  to  have  such  an 
unfailing  source  of  merriment  always  at  hand :  the 
owner  may  set  the  blue  devils  at  defiance. 

BOURNE.  As  we  are  not  at  present  in  want  of  its 
assistance,  and  as  we  have  other  and  better  things  to 
attend  to,  we  may  close  Robt.  Markham's  "  Lament- 
able Tragedy  full  of  pleasant  mirth,"  (as  Preston 
entitles  his  "  Cambises,")  until  we  have  more  need 
of  it. 

ELLIOT.  To  come  back  for  a  minute  or  two  to 
Churchyard. 

BOURNE.  We  will  do  so  directly  j  but  before  we 
dismiss  Sir  R.  Grenville  from  our  minds,  I  wish  to 
show  you  a  curiosity  I  discovered  not  long  since 
among  the  MSS.  of  the  British  Museum,  (Bibl.  Sloan, 
Plut.  XVIII.  F.)  which  shows  that  Sir  R.  Grenville 
is  probably  entitled  to  a  place  among  the  poets,  as 
well  as  among  the  heroes  of  his  country. 

MORTON.  Your  position  will  at  least  have  novelty 
to  recommend  it. 

BOURNE.  It  will:  the  poem  is  entitled  "  In  praise 
of  Seafaringe  Men  in  hope  of  good  fortune :"  it  has 
no  date,  but  it  is  in  a  hand  writing  of  Queen  Eliza- 
beth's reign,  and  the  following  are  the  two  last 
stanzas: 


102  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

"  Whoe  list  at  whome  at  cart  to  drudge 
And  cark  and  care  for  worldlie  trashe, 
With  buckled  sheues  let  him  goe  trudge 
In  stead  of  Launce  A  whip  to  lashe : 
A  minde  that  base  his  kind  will  show 
of  caronn  sweete  to  feede  a  crowe. 

"  If  lasonn  of  that  mynd  had  bine, 
the  grecions  when  they  cam  to  troye 
Had  neuer  so  the  Trogians  foylde, 
Nor  neuer  put  them  to  such  Anoye : 
Wherefore  who  lust  to  Hue  at  whome, 
To  purchas  fame  I  will  go  Rome. 
Finis  Sur  Richard 
Grinfilldes  Farwell." 

There  are  about  five  or  six  other  stanzas  which 
precede  what  I  have  read,  and  in  an  opposite  column, 
by  a  different  hand,  is  inserted  an  answer  to  them. 
In  the  first  line  of  the  last  stanza,  bine  is  most  likely 
a  mistake  of  the  transcriber's  for  toylde,  to  rhyme 
Mvithjbylde  in  the  next  line  but  one. 

ELLIOT.  It  does  not  seem  to  merit  much  critical 
comment,  and  the  author  is  called  Grinfillde  not 
Grenville. 

BOURNE.  The  variation  of  the  name  is  no  disproof 
of  the  authorship :  we  have  already  seen  it  spelt  four 
different  ways — Grinuile  by  Jervis  Markham,  Green- 
mil  by  Camden,  Grinml  by  Fitzgeffrey,  and  Grenuile 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  103 

by  the  author  of  the  prose  pamphlet ;  and  there 
were  at  that  time  no  fixed  rules  of  orthography, 
especially  in  names.  I  interrupted  you  when  you 
were  going  to  ask  a  question  about  old  Churchyard. 

ELLIOT.  It  regarded  a  work,  attributed  to  him  by 
Mr.  Chalmers,  which  I  apprehend  must  be  very  in- 
teresting. I  mean  "  A  praise  of  poetry,  some  notes 
thereof  drawn  out  of  the  Apologie  the  noble-minded 
knight,  Sir  Philip  Sidney  wrote."  The  date  given 
is  1596. 

BOURNE.  It  would  not  by  any  means  come  up  to 
your  expectations,  as  there  is  little  or  nothing  in  it 
original :  but  you  may  satisfy  your  curiosity  by  re- 
ferring to  Censura  Literaria,  where  the  tract  is  re- 
viewed. Your  mention  of  Sir  P.  Sidney  here  brings 
us  to  something  I  had  intended  to  postpone,  but 
which  cannot  perhaps  be  mofe  properly  introduced 
than  here  j  I  allude  to  four  sonnets  by  Henry  Con- 
stable (a  poet  of  very  considerable  note,  author  of 
"  Diana,"  1594),  prefixed  to  the  very  rare  edition  of 
Sidney's  "  Apologie  of  Poetrie,"  4to.  1595.  They 
have  never  been  reprinted. 

MORTON.  Few  of  the  minor  poets  of  that  day  seem 
to  have  enjoyed  a  higher  reputation. 

BOURNE.  He  may  fairly  be  ranked  with  Watson, 
whose  sonnets  Mr.  Steevens  contended  were  equal  to 
those  of  Shakespeare  :  as  I  told  you,  I  cannot  agree 
with  him,  nor  do  I  believe  that  any  man  who  knows 
the  one  and  the  other,  and  has  a  particle  of  taste,  will 


104  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

concur.     Constable's  Sonnets  are  the  following,  and 
are  thus  rather  singularly  entitled  : 

"  Foure  Sonnets  Written  by  Henrie 
Constable  to  Sir  Phillip  Sidneys  soule. 

Giue  pardon  (blessed  Soule)  to  my  bold  cryes 
If  they  (importund)  interrupt  thy  Song, 
Which  now  with  ioyfull  notes  thou  sing'st  among 
The  Angel-Quiristers  of  heau'nly  skyes : 
Giue  pardon  eake  (sweete  Soule)  to  my  slow  cries, 
That  since  I  saw  thee  now  it  is  so  long, 
And  yet  the  teares  that  vnto  thee  belong 
To  thee  as  yet  they  did  not  sacrifice  : 
I  did  not  know  that  thou  wert  dead  before, 
I  did  not  feele  the  griefe  I  did  susteine, 
"  The  greater  stroke  astonisheth  the  more, 
"  Astonishment  takes  from  vs  sence  of  paine ; 
I  stood  amaz'd  when  others  teares  begun, 
And  now  begin  to  weepe,  when  they  haue  doone. 

Sweet  Soule  which  now  with  heau'nly  songs  doost  tel 
Thy  deare  Redeemers  glory  and  his  prayse, 
No  meruaile  though  thy  skilful!  Muse  assayes 
The  Songs  of  other  soules  there  to  excell  j 

For  thou  didst  learne  to  sing  diuinely  well, 

Long  time  before  thy  fayre  and  glittering  rayes 
Encreas'd  the  light  of  heau'n,  for  euen  thy  layes 
Most  heauenly  were  when  thou  on  earth  didst 
dwel : 


I 
SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  105 

When  thou  didst  on  the  earth  sing  Poet-wise, 
Angels  in  heau'n  pray'd  for  thy  company 
And  now  thou  sing'st  with  Angels  in  the  skies 
Shall  not  all  Poets  praise  thy  memory  ? 
And  to  thy  name  shall  not  their  works  giue  fame, 
When  as  their  works  be  sweetned  by  thy  name  ? 

Even  as  when  great  mens  heires  cannot  agree, 
So  eu'ry  vertue  now  for  part  of  thee  doth  sue, 
Courage  prooues  by  thy  death  thy  hart  to  be  his 

due, 

Eloquence  claimes  thy  tongue,  and  so  doth  cour- 
tesy j 

Inuention  knowledge  sues,  ludgment  sues  memory, 
Each  saith  thy  head'  is  his,  and  what  end  shall 

ensue 

Of  this  strife  know  I  not,  but  this  I  know  for  true, 

That  whosoeuer  gaines  the  sute  the  losse  haue  wee  j 

Wee  (I  meane  all  the  world)  the  losse  to  all  pertaineth, 

Yea  they  which  gaine  doe  loose  and  onely  thy 

soule  gaineth, 

For  loosing  of  one  life,  two  liues  are  gained  then : 
Honor  thy  courage  mou'd,  courage  thy  death  did 

giue, 

Death,  courage,  honor  makes  thy  soule  to  liue, 
Thy  soule  to  liue  in  heau'n,  thy  name  in  tongues  of 
men. 

Great  Alexander  then  did  well  declare 

How  great  was  his  united  Kingdomes  might, 


106  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

When  eu'ry  Captaine  of  his  Army  might 
After  his  death  with  mighty  Kings  compare : 

So  now  we  see  after  thy  death,  how  far 
Thou  dost  in  worth  surpasse  each  other  Knight, 
When  we  admire  him  as  no  mortal  wight, 
In  whom  the  least  of  all  thy  vertues  are : 

One  did  of  Macedon  the  King  become, 
Another  sat  on  the  Egiptian  throne, 
But  onely  Alexanders  selfe  had  all : 
So  curteous  some,  and  some  be  liberall, 

Some  witty,  wise,  valiant,  and  learned  some 

But  King  of  all  the  vertues  thou  alone. 

Henry  Constable." 

ELLIOT.  The  thought  in  the  last  of  these  sonnets 
is  happy,  and  happily  applied. 

MORTON.  And  the  lines  run  with  much  harmony 
and  facility. 

BOURNE.  If  they  do  not  add  to,  they  at  least  do 
not  detract  from  the  fame  of  their  author, 

MORTON.  They  are  undoubtedly  well  worthy  of 
revival,  not  merely  as  curious  relics.  But  did  not 
Lord  Thurlow,  a  few  years  since,  publish  a  reprint 
of  Sidney's  "  Apology  of  Poetry?"  If  so,  I  should 
have  taken  it  for  granted  that  he  did  not  omit  these 
sonnets. 

BOURNE.  He  would  not  have  omitted  them  had 
he  been  aware  of  their  existence,  but  his  reprint  is 
made  from  an  edition  comparatively  modern,  and 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  107 

even  in  the  folio  of  1598  the  sonnets  are  unac- 
countably excluded. 

ELLIOT.  I  suppose  there  are  no  important  omis- 
sions in  the  body  of  the  "  Apology." 

BOURNE.  No  ;  but  you  will  see  that  the  edition  of 
1598  (which  is  called  "  The  Defence  of  Poesie") 
commences  thus  j  "  When  the  right  vertuous  E.  W. 
and  I  were  at  the  Emperours  Court  together."  Now 
the  edition  of  1595  gives  the  whole  name  instead  of 
the  initials,  viz.  "  Edwarde  Wootton." 

ELLIOT.  Who  was  Edward  Wootton  ?  If  Fulke 
Greville  thought  it  worthy  of  mention  in  his  Epitaph 
that  he  was  the  friend  of  Sir  P.  Sidney,  his  other 
friends  deserve  to  be  inquired  after. 

BOURNE.  No  doubt  he  was  brother  to  Sir  Henry 
Wootton.  Edward  Wootton  was  Comptroller  of 
the  Queen's  Household,  and,  according  to  Camden, 
"  was  remarkable  for  many  high  employments  :"  he 
was  sent  several  times  Ambassador  to  foreign  Courts, 
and  on  one  of  these  occasions  he  was  accompanied 
by  Sidney. 

MORTON.  How  deeply  it  is  to  be  lamented  that 
a  few  days  before  his  death  Sir  H.  Wootton  should 
have  burnt  many  of  the  productions  of  his  youth. 
What  is  the  date  of  his  earliest  piece  now  extant  ? 

BOURNE.  It  is  difficult  to  decide,  but  the  events 
referred  to  fix  the  dates  of  a  few:  the  earliest  I 
immediately  recollect  is  inserted  in  Davison's  "  Poeti- 
cal Ilapsody,"  1602,  but  that  he  had  written  poems 


108  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

before  that  is  very  clear.  Thomas  Bastard,  the 
author  of  "  Chrestoleros,"  published  in  1598,  ad- 
dresses two  epigrams  ad  Henricum  Wottonum,  in  one 
of  which  he  says, 

"  Wotton,  the  country  and  the  country  swayne, 
How  can  they  yield  a  poet  any  sense  ? 
How  can  they  stirre  him  up,  or  heate  his  braine  ? 
How  can  they  feede  him  with  intelligence  ?" 

And  he  recommends  him,  therefore,  to  come  to 
"London,  Englands  fayrest  eye."  It  is  not  Tery 
unlikely  that  their  friendship  was  occasioned  or  con- 
firmed by  their  mutual  love  of  fishing,  for  in  another 
Epigram,  De  piscatione,  Bastard  observes, 

"  Fishing,  if  I  a  fisher  may  protest, 

Of  pleasures  is  the  sweet' st,  of  sports  the  best, 

Of  exercises  the  most  excellent  -, 

Of  recreations  the  most  innocent. 

But  now  the  sport  is  marde,  and  wott  ye  why  ! 

Fishes  decrease,  and  fishers  multiply." 

MORTON.  All  Sir  Henry's  friends,  however,  were 
not  fishermen :  one  of  his  most  intimate  companions, 
Dr.  Donne,  has  this  stanza  in  his  "  Progresse  of  the 

Soule," 

"  Is  any  kind  subject  to  rape  like  fish  ? 
Ill  unto  men,  they  neither  doe  nor  wish  3 
Fishers  they  kill  not.  nor  with  noise  awake  j 
They  doe  not  hunt,  nor  strive  to  make  a  prey 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  109 

Of  beasts,  nor  their  yong  sonnes  to  beare  away  5 

Foules  they  pursue  not,  nor  do  undertake 

To  spoile  the  nests  industruous  birds  do  make  j 

Yet  them  all  these  unkinde  kinds  feed  upon, 

To  kill  them  is  an  occupation, 

And  lawes  make  fasts,  &  lents  for  their  destruction." 

ELLIOT.  If  we  may  believe  Rabelais,  among  the 
Roman  Emperors  is  to  be  found  a  great  example  in 
favour  of  fishing:  in  B.  II.  c.  30.  (Edit.  1553)  he 
asserts  that  Trajan  estoit  pescheur  de  Grenouilles. 

MORTON.  I  doubt  the  correctness  of  your  autho- 
rity :  besides,  at  best  Trajan  was  only  a  French 
fisherman — a  fisher  of  frogs. 

ELLIOT.  I  assure  you  Rabelais  makes  the  assertion 
in  the  same  chapter,  where  he  represents  Lancelot 
du  Lac  as  escorcheur  de  chevaulx  mors,  and  all  the 
Knights  of  the  Round  Table  aspouvresgaingnedeniers 
tirans  la  rame  pour  passer  les  rivieres  de  Coccyte, 
Phlegeton,  Styx,  Acheron,  fy  Lethe. 

BOURNE.  One  is  quite  as  true  as  the  other:  Wal- 
ton's work  is  quite  enough  to  make  me  a  fisherman. 
You  know  that  he  was  the  first  to  collect  and  publish 
the  scattered  remains  of  Sir  H.  Wootton,  and  their, 
friendship,  I  believe,  originated  in  their  mutual  par- 
tiality to  angling.  Here  we  may  introduce  very 
fitly  the  treat  I  promised  you  some  days  ago,  in  the 
examination  of  a  poem  dedicated  to  Walton,  but  not 
noticed  by  any  one  of  his  biographers. 


110  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

ELLIOT.  That  is  rather  strange,  recollecting  the 
unremitting  pains  taken  within  the  last  twenty  or 
thirty  years  to  collect  the  minutest  facts  regarding 
Walton.  It  is  remarkable,  too,  that  he,  only  a  small 
tradesman,  should  be  fixed  upon  by  an  author  to 
patronize  his  poem. 

MORTON.  We  have  very  often  seen  that  an  author 
dedicates  his  work  to  an  obscure  friend  merely  as  a 
token  of  regard,  and  there  was  no  man  more  likely 
to  produce  such  a  feeling  than  "  honest  Izaac  :*' 
S.  P.,  the  writer  in  question,  like  the  author  of  the 
"  Metamorphosis  of  Tobacco"  (a  poem  dedicated 
to  Drayton,  which  we  so  much  admired  a  few  days 
ago),  might  say  that  his  pen 

"  Loath'd  to  adorn  the  triumphs  of  those  men 

Which  hold  the  reins  of  fortune  and  the  times," 
and  might,  therefore,  prefer  his  obscure  friend,  so 
that  I  do  not  see  much  in  your  last  observation. 
What  is  the  title  of  the  poem  ? 

BOURNE.  It  is  called  "  The  Love  of  Amos  and 
Laura.  Written  by  S.  P.  London :  printed  for 
Richard  Hawkins,  dwelling  in  Chancery  Lane,  neere 
Serieants  Inrie.  1619."  Walton  was  born  in  1593, 
so  that  in  1619  he  was  in  his  twenty-sixth  year. 

MORTON.  The  author  only  gives  his  initials  on  the 
title.  Does  he  insert  Walton's  name  at  full  length 
before  the  dedication  1 

BOURNE.  He  is  addressed,  not  by  his  name  at 
length,  but  by  an  abbreviation  always  employed  by 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION  111 

Walton,  and  with  his  noted  peculiarity  of  using  a  z 
instead  of  an  s  in  the  word  Izaac — it  is  "  To  my 
approved  and  much  respected  friend,  Iz.  Wa. :"  the 
epithets  "  approved  and  much  respected"  are  ap- 
propriate to  the  station  in  life  Walton  filled. 

MORTON.  Nearly  all  his  letters  and  poems  are 
subscribed  Iz.  Wa. 

BOURNE.  But  none  are  so  early  as  1619  :  it  is  pro- 
bable, however,  that  he  began  to  write  before  16'31, 
the  date  of  his  poem  on  the  death  of  his  friend  Dr. 
Donne  :  it  is  a  propensity  generally  peculiar  to 
youth,  and  subsiding  witli  age  j  in  this  way  I  ac- 
count for  what  S.  P.,  in  the  dedication,  says  of  his 
friend's  skill  in  verse.  It  is  in  these  terms : 

"  To  thee  thou  more  then  thrice  beloued  friend, 

I,  too  vnworthy  of  so  great  a  blisse, 

These  harsh-tun'd  lines  I  here  to  thee  commend  5 

Thou  being  cause  it  is  now  as  it  is  : 

For  hadst  thou  held  thy  tongue,  by  silence  might 
These  haue  been  buried  in  obliuions  night. 

"  If  they  were  pleasing  I  would  call  them  thine, 

And  disauow  my  title  to  the  verse  ; 

But  being  bad  I  needes  must  call  them  mine, 

No  ill  thing  can  be  clothed  in  thy  verse. 

Accept  them  then,  and  where  I  have  offended, 
Rase  thou  it  out  and  let  it  be  amended. 

S.  P." 
ELLIOT.  It  was  somewhat  late  to  amend  after  it 

was  printed,  but  the  compliment  is  not  ill  paid. 


119  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  But  granting  that  Iz.  Wa.  is  Izaac 
Walton,  there  is  still  an  important  question  to  be 
settled — who  was  S.  P.  ? 

BOURNE.  Which  must  probably  remain  undecided, 
unless  it  were  Samuel  Purchas,  a  well  known  author 
about  that  time,  yet  that  is  not  very  probable.  In 
fact,  in  my  view,  it  is  not  a  question  of  any  great 
moment,  for  the  production  is  not  by  any  means 
first  rate,  though  not  devoid  of  merit :  the  same 
small  volume,  in  which  "  Amos  and  Laura"  is  found, 
contains  two  other  poems,  and  particularly  one  of 
considerably  greater  talent. 

MORTON.  What  are  they  ?  are  they  also  unknown  ? 

BOURNE.  One  of  them  is,  I  apprehend,  quite  a 
new  discovery  in  the  history  of  our  poetry,  the  other 
is  nearly  as  much  known  as  the  other  is  little  known. 
The  volume  has  this  general  title,  "  Alcilia :  Philo- 
parthens  louing  folly. — Wherevnto  is  added  Pigma- 
lions  Image  :  With  the  Loue  of  Amos  and  Laura. — 
London,  Printed  for  Richard  Hawkins,"  &c.  1619. 

MORTON.  "  Pigmalions  Image,"  I  suppose,  is  John 
Marston's  poem,  first  printed  in  1598. 

BOURNE.  It  is,  but  this  edition  is  not  common. 
"  Alcilia,,  Philoparthens  louing  Folly"  is  a  produc- 
tion hitherto  unseen,  and  displays  very  considerable 
poetical  talent.  We  will  come  to  that  presently ; 
first,  I  will  read  you  a  quotation  or  two  from  "  The 
Loue  of  Amos  and  Laura,"  which,  if  not  the  most 
valuable,  is,  from  the  circumstance  of  its  dedication, 
the  most  curious. 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  113 

ELLIOT.  What  is  the  story  of  "  Amos  and  Laura," 
if  it  have  any  ? 

BOURNE.  It  has  little  or  none :  it  opens  in  these 
lines,  not  very  promisingly  : 

"  In  the  large  confines  of  renowned  France 
There  liud  a  Lord,  whom  Fortune  did  aduance, 
Who  had  a  Daughter,  Laura  call'd  the  faire  j 
So  sweete,  so  proper,  and  so  debonaire, 
That  strangers  tooke  her  for  to  be  none  other 
Then  Venus  selfe,  the  god  of  Loues  owne  Mother. 
Not  farre  from  thence  was  situate  a  Towne, 
The  Lord  thereof  a  man  of  good  renowne, 
Whom  likewise  Fortune  blessed  with  a  Sonne, 
Amos  by  name,  so  modest,  ciuill,  young, 
And  yet  in  fight  so  wondrous  and  so  bold 
As  that  therein  he  passed  vncontrouTd : 
So  kinde  to  strangers,  and  so  meeke  to  all, 
Of  comely  grace,  and  stature  somewhat  tall ; 
As  the  wide  world  not  two  such  Imps  affords 
As  were  the  off-springs  of  these  happy  Lords." 

MORTON.  The  lines  are  mawkish  5  but  perhaps 
the  author  warms  and  strengthens  as  he  proceeds. 

BOURNE.  He  does  improve,  though  not  as  much 
as  could  be  wished:  nearly  the  whole  poem  is  a 
dialogue  between  these  two  lovers.  Amos,  when 
going  out  to  hunt,  meets  Laura  near  her  father's 
castle :  the  conversation  then  begins,  in  the  middle 

VOL.  ii.  , 


114  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

of  wjiich  the  lady  runs  away,  is  pursued  and  over- 
taken by  her  admirer :  the  courtship  is  then  renewed 
and  concluded  to  the  satisfaction  of  both  parties. 
The  following  extract  begins  better  than  it  ends. 

"  Or  were  thy  loue  but  equal  vnto  mine, 
Then  wouldst  thou  seeke  his  fauor  who  seeks  thine ! 
Methinkes  unkindnesse  cannot  come  from  thence, 
Where  beauty  raignes  with  such  magnificence: 
I  mean  from  thee  whom  nature  hath  endow'd, 
With  more  then  Art  would  willingly  allow'd  : 
And  though  by  nature  you  are  borne  most  faire 
Yet  Art  would  adde  a  beauty  to  your  share ; 
But  it  being  spotlesse  doth  disdaine  receit 
Of  all  vnpolish'd  painting  counterfeit. 
Your  beauty  is  a  snare  vnto  our  wayes 
Wherein  once  caught,  we  cannot  brooke  delayes  j 
Which  makes  us  oft  through  griefe  of  minde  grow  sad, 
Griefe  follows  grief,  thert  malcontent  -and  mad. 
Thus  by  denyall  doe  you  cause  our  woe 
And  then  do  triumph  in  our  overthrow." 

ELLIOT.  That  is  quite  sufficient :  we  should  only 
waste  time  if  we  were  to  read  more  of  such  in- 
sipidity. 

BOURNE.  I  anticipated  your  opinion  j  indeed  there 
could  hardly  be  much  difference  about  it :  nor  will 
I  ask  you  to  listen  to  two  short  passages  more,  the 
one  referring,  in  general  terms,  to  Marlow's  and 


I   0)\VK1JS  \TION.  115 

Chapman's  celebrated  translation  of  "  Hero  and 
Leander/'  and  the  other,  even  more  generally,  to 
Shakespeare's  "  Tarquin  and  Lucrece." 

MORTON.  Then  having  now  done  with  S.  P.  and 
his  Amos  and  Laura,  we  may  look  upon  "  Alcilia," 
whom  I  am  a  little  anxious  to  behold,  after  the 
praise  you  have  bestowed  upon  her  beauty. 

BOURNE.  I  warn  you  against  inconsiderate  ex- 
pectation :  though  it  is  better  than  what  we  have 
just  seen,  I  do  not  pretend  that  it  is  first  rate,  even 
in  the  department  to  which  it  belongs. 

ELLIOT.  What  department  is  that  ? 

BOURNE.  Love  poems  of  various  descriptions. 

ELLIOT.  Of  which  passion,  you  may  remember, 
Cicero  speaks  thus  slightingly,  Totus  vero  iste  qui 
vulgo  appellatur  Amor  (nee  hercule  invenio  quo  nomine 
aliopossit  appellari)  tantce  levitatis  est,  ut  nihil  videam, 
quod  putem  conferendum. 

BOURNE.  Instead  of  such  a  quotation,  with  such  a 
tendency,  I  should  rather  have  cited  R.  Wilmot's 
dedication  to  "  Tancred  and  Gismunda,"  1592,  where 
he  asserts  that  love  being  as  it  were  "  the  finest 
metal,  the  freshest  wits  have  in  all  ages  shewn  their 
best  workmanship"  upon  it. 

MORTON.  On  the  other  hand,  we  ought  to  recollect 
Spenser's  lines  in  "  Mother  Hubbard's  Talej" 

"  Thereto  he  could  fine  loving  verses  frame 
And  play  the  poet  oft.     But  Ah  !  for  shame  j 

i  2 


116  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

Let  not  sweet  poets  praise,  whose  only  pride 
Is  virtue  to  advance  and  vice  deride, 
Be  with  the  work  of  losels  wit  defamed, 
Ne  let  such  verses  poetry  be  named." 

BOURNE.  He  there  supposes  them  to  be  written 
by  Malfont,  that  "  poet  bad,"  or  by  one  like  him,  de- 
scribed in  the  5th  Book  of  the  F.  Q.  Do  not  let  it  be 
forgotten,  however  he  abuses  it  for  particular  pur- 
poses, that  some  of  the  very  best  parts  of  Spenser's 
works  are  devoted  to  love  and  its  praise. 

MORTON.  Lovers  and  poets  are  allowed  to  be  the 
most  inconsistent  creatures  in  nature. 

BOURNE.  The  author  of  "  Alcilia:  Philoparthens 
loving  Folly,"  justifies  your  remark  j  for  he  says,  in 
introducing  the  best  part  of  his  work  to  the  reader, 
"These  Sonnets  following  were  written  by  the  Author 
(who  giueth  himselfe  this  feigned  name  of  Philo- 
parthen  as  his  accidental  attribute)  at  diuers  times 
and  vpon  diuers  occasions,  and  therefore  in  the  forme 
and  matter  they  differ,  and  sometimes  are  quite  con- 
trary one  to  another  considering  the  nature  and 
quality  of  LOVE,  which  is  a  passion  full  of  variety 
and  contrariety  in  it  selfe." 

ELLIOT.  That  is  not  less  true  than  in  point.  Have 
you  any  conjecture  who  is  meant  by  Philoparthen, 
whose  "  accidental  attribute"  this  "  feigned  name" 
expressed  ? 

BOURNE.  I  have  not,  nor  do  I  find  any  clue  in  the 
production. 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  117 

MORTON.  I  think  Barnabe  Barnes,  whom  you  men- 
tioned on  a  former  day  as  the  friend  of  William  Percy, 
used  that  signature. 

BOURNE.  Not  exactly,  though  it  is  different  only 
by  transposition  :  he  signed  himself  by  the  name  of 
Parthenophil. 

ELLIOT.  As  we  are  not  likely  to  arrive  at  any 
satisfaction  on  the  point,  let  us  open  the  book. 

BOURNE.  The  titles  to  the  several  divisions  of  his 
poems  are  in  Latin,  "  Author  ipse  Philopartheos  ad 
libellum  suum"  and  "  Amoris  Pr&ludium,  vel  Epistola 
ad  Amicam,"  although  the  stanzas  to  which  they 
apply  are  all  English. 

ELLIOT.  The  author  seems  to  have  been  one  of 
those  who  wrote  because  they  repented  of  their 
folly :  a  principal  part  of  his  production,  I  perceive, 
is  headed  "  Sic  incipit  Stultorum  Tragicomedia." 

BOURNE.  That  precedes  the  quotation  I  read  about 
the  variety  and  contrariety  of  love  -,  an  excuse  for 
the  wavering  nature  of  the  "  Sonnets,"  as  the  author 
calls  them,  that  succeed. 

ELLIOT.  Yet  sonnets  they  are  not,  for  they  are 
sometimes  only  stanzas  of  six  lines  each. 

MORTON.  The  word  sonnet,  as  we  have  seen,  had 
a  very  indefinite  application  among  our  elder  poets, 
and  it  often  does  not  mean  at  all  what  the  Italians 
seem  to  have  understood  by  it. 

BOURNE.  If  you  wifl  give  me  the  book,  I  will 
point  out  to  you  some  of  the  best  of  these  sonnets ; 


118  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

for  they  are  by  no  means  all  worth  reading,  sup- 
posing we  had  time  to  go  through  them. 

ELLIOT.  With  all  my  heart. 

BOURNE.  The  following  is  a  pretty  allegorical  de- 
scription, rather  ingenious,  and  elegantly  worded. 

"  To  seeke  aduentures  as  Fate  hath  assignde, 
My  slender  Barke  new  flotes  vpon  the  Maine  j 
Each  troubled  thought  an  Oare,  each  sigh  a  winde, 
Whose  often  puffes  haue  rent  my  Sayles  in  twaine. 
Loue  steeres  the  Boat,  which  for  that  sight  he  lacks, 
Is  still  in  danger  of  tenne  thousand  wracks." 

MORTON.  It  is  pretty,  certainly  j  and  the  author 
has  given  a  new  turn  in  the  two  last  lines,  which  is 
very  happy. 

BOURNE.  His  talent  is  more  fully  exemplified  in 
another  portion  of  the  volume,  called  "  Love  de- 
cyphered,"  where,  having  been  rejected  by  Alcilia, 
he  triumphs  in  his  regained  freedom. 

"  Loue  and  Youth  are  now  asunder, 

Reasons  glory,  Natures  wonder  j 

My  thoughts  long  bound  are  now  inlarg'd, 

My  follies  penance  is  discharg'd, 

Thus  time  hath  altered  my  state ; 

Repentance  neuer  comes  too  late ! 

Ah  well  I  finde  that  Loue  is  naught, 

But  folly  and  an  idle  thought ; 

The  difference  is  twixt  Loue  and  me, 

That  Loue  is  blinde  and  I  can  see." 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  119 

ELLIOT.  That  is  exceedingly  pleasant  and  playful 
in  its  way :  it  aims  at  nothing  more  than  it  accom- 
plishes, and  the  form  and  facility  of  the  versification 
are  well  suited  to  the  author's  supposed  state  of 
feeling. 

BOURNE.  I  do  not  think  you  will  like  less  the 
description  of  his  mistress,  in  the  three  following 
stanzas,  from  a  different  part  of  the  volume. 

"  Faire  is  my  Loue  whose  parts  are  so  well  framed 
By  Natures  special  order  and  direction, 
That  she  her  selfe  is  more  then  halfe  ashamed 
In  hauing  made  a  worke  of  such  perfection  : 
And  well  may  Nature  blush  at  such  a  feature, 
Seeing  her  selfe  excelled  by  her  creature 

Her  body  is  straight,  slender  and  vpright, 
Her  visage  comely  and  her  lookes  demure, 
Mixt  with  a  chearfull  grace  that  yeelds  delight : 
Her  eyes  like  starres,  bright  shining,  cleare  and  pure, 
Which  I  describing  Loue  bids  stay  my  pen, 
And  says  it's  not  a  worke  for  mortall  men. 

The  ancient  Poets  write  of  Graces  three, 
Which  meeting  altogether  in  one  creature, 
In  all  points  perfect  make  the  same  to  bee, 
For  inward  vertues  and1  for  outward  feature : 
But  smile  Alcilia  and  the  world  shall  see, 
That  in  thine  eyes  a  hundred  graces  bee!" 

MORTON.  We  are  much  obliged  to  you  for  intro- 
ducing us  to  a  poet  who  can  write  with  so  much  ease 
and  delicacy. 


130  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

ELLIOT.  The  first  stanza  is  a  little  faulty;  for  if 
Nature  might  be  envious  of  the  beauty  of  her  work, 
it  is  the  very  reason  why  she  should  not  be  ashamed 
of  its  perfectness. 

MORTON.  Ah  /'  quittez  d'un  censeur  la  triste  diligence, 
to  borrow  a  line  from  Racine.  Do  not  blame  where 
there  is  really  so  much  to  commend ;  besides  a  little 
ought  to  be  allowed  for  the  necessity  of  the  rhyme. 

ELLIOT.  Perhaps  I  was  somewhat  hypercritical. 
If  the  next  quotation  be  as  good,  I  will  find  no  fault 
with  it. 

BOURNE.  I  am  afraid  we  can  afford  no  more  time 
at  present  to  "  Alcilia."  Before  we  finally  dismiss 
Bastard's  Chrestoleros,  so  frequently  mentioned,  I 
wish  to  show  you  an  epigram  in  it  which  renders  it 
valuable,  not  merely  as  containing  notices  of  poets 
whose  works  have  come  down  to  us,  but  of  some 
regarding  whom  we  have  hitherto  only  heard  the 
names;  such,  for  instance,  as  Dr.  Eeds,  Dean  of 
Worcester.  At  least  we  learn  from  Bastard  for  what 
species  of  composition  Dr.  Eedes  was  celebrated, 
which  we  did  not  know  before. 

MORTON.  Wood,  I  perceive,  only  asserts  that  he 
wrote  various  MS.  poems  in  Latin  and  English. 

BOURNE.  And  Ritson  and  the  rest  re-echo  him : 
from  the  following  lines  in  the  Chrestoleros  we  find 
that  he  was  ari  author  of  epigrams. 

"  Ad  Richardum  Eeds. 
"  Eeds  onely  thou  an  Epigram  dost  season, 
With  thy  sweete  tast  and  relish  of  enditing, 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  121 

With  sharpes  of  sense,  and  delicates  of  reason, 
With  salt  of  witt  and  wonderfull  delighting. 
For  in  my  Judgement  him  thou  hast  exprest 
In  whose  sweet  mouth  hony  did  build  her  nest." 

ELLIOT.  I  do  not  suppose  you  quote  that  for  its 
own  merit,  but  merely  as  a  matter  of  biography. 

BOURNE.  Precisely  soj  and  it  too  frequently  hap- 
pens, as  I  have  once  before  remarked,  that  such  is 
the  chief  value  of  the  productions  of  our  old  English 
epigrammatists. 

ELLIOT.  It  is  to  be  lamented,  then,  that  not  a  few 
of  those  who  are  called  ports  of  the  reign  of  Queen 
Elizabeth  did  not  write  epigrams :  their  works  would 
then,  at  least,  have  been  endurable. 

BOURXE.  I  am  not  such  a  bigot  to  old  versifica- 
tion (not  to  dignify  it  by  the  name  of  poetry),  as  to 
dispute  the  truth  of  your  remark  in  some  particular 
instances :  one  of  them,  indeed,  is  an  author  I  in- 
tended to  bring  before  you  to-day,  I  mean  Barnabe 
Googe,  who,  though  a  voluminous  writer,  and  espe- 
cially translator,  has  produced  nothing  original  that 
I  have  ever  seen  worth  preserving. 

ELLIOT.  An  additional  confirmation  of  Sir  John 
Denham's  celebrated  couplet, 

"  Such  is  our  pride,  our  folly,  or  our  fate, 
That  few  but  such  as  cannot  write  translate !" 

MORTON.  Googe  was  the  translator  of  Pallin- 
genius's  "  Zodiac  of  Life." 

BOURNE.  The  same?  yet  I  cannot  deny  that  by 


122  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

practice  he  acquired  some  facility  in  the  use  of  the 
English  language :  this  is  more  evident  in  his  version 
of  Naorgorgeus's  "  Popish  Kingdom,"  1570,  which 
contains  an  account  of  some  curious  and  amusing 
customs,  although  the  title  is  unpromising  :  a  piece 
Ritson  assigns  to  him,  called  "  A  new  yeares  gifte, 
dedicated  to  the  Popes  Holinesse,"  15/9,  is  certainly 
not  his,  but  probably  Bernard  Garter's,  as  any  body 
who  reads  it  will  see. 

MORTON.  In  what  way  was  Googe  to  be  brought 
before  us  1 

ELLIOT.  I  am  afraid  we  are  now  about  to  be  treated 
with  one  of  your  absolute  bibliomaniac  curiosities. 

BOURNE.  Your  sufferings  will  not  be  of  long 
duration,  if  you  are  patient  under  the  infliction. 
The  existence  of  this  small  volume  by  Googe  has 
been  doubted  by  some,  and  it  is  clear  that  Ritson 
had  never  heard  of  it.  The  title  is  this,  "  The 
Prouerbes  of  the  noble  and  woorthy  souldier  Sir 
James  Lopez  de  Mendoza,  Marques  of  Santillana, 
with  the  paraphrase  of  D.  Peter  Diaz  of  Toledo," 
&c.  "  Translated  out  of  Spanishe  by  Barnabe  Googe. 
Imprinted  at  London  by  Richarde  Watkins,  1579." 
It  is  dedicated  to  Cecill  "  Baron  of  Burghley,"  and 
the  translator  complains  that  he  had  found  some 
difficulty  in  making  out  the  meaning  of  his  author. 

MORTON.  Is  it  in  verse  or  prose  ? 

BOURNE.  In  both :  the  proverbs  (though  why  so 
called  cannot  very  easily  be  guessed),  are  in  Googe's 
favourite  measure  of  fourteen  syllables,  divided  into 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  123 

two  lines,  for  the  purpose  of  coming  conveniently  into 
an  8vo.  page,  and  the  paraphrase  or  commentary  is 
in  prose. 

ELLIOT.  The  prose  can  be  dispensed  with,  at  all 
events. 

BOURNE.  I  did  not  intend  to  read  it :  the  follow- 
ing are  numbered  47, 48,  and  49,  but  only  form  one 
Proverb,  and  are  in  praise  of  women. 

"  For  setting  here  aside  that  sweete 

and  blessed  worthic  rose, 
That  ouer  all  the  rest  doth  shine, 

and  far  beyond  them  goes, 
The  daughter  of  the  thundring  God, 

and  spouse  vnto  the  hiest  j 
The  light  and  lampc  of  women  all 

who  bare  our  sauiour  Christ. 

"  Manie  ladies  of  renowne 

and  beautifull  there  bee, 
That  are  both  chast  and  vertuous 

and  famous  for  degree : 
Amongst  the  blessed  saintes 

full  many  a  one  we  finde, 
That  in  this  copasse  may  be  brought 

for  liues  that  brightly  shinde. 

"  What  should  I  of  Saint  Katheren 

that  blessed  martyr  tell, 
Among  the  rest  of  Virgins  all 

a  flowre  of  precious  smell  ? 


124  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

Well  worthy  of  remembrance  is 

her  beauty  and  her  youth, 
And  eke  no  lesse  deserueth  praise 

her  knowledge  in  the  trueth." 

EixLioT.  I  should  be  surprised  if,  with  all  your 
love  of  old  poetry,  you  could  say  any  thing  in  praise 
of  those  lines. 

BOURNE.  I  do  not  affect  it;  nor  indeed,  as  I  ob- 
served, in  praise  of  any  thing  Googe  ever  wrote, 
excepting  so  far  as  he  was  able  to  gain  the  name  of 
a  poet  by  the  smoothness  of  his  versification. 

MORTON.  The  lines  you  have  read  have  that  re- 
commendation, though  with  some  want  of  judg- 
ment you  have  brought  him  after  the  author  of 
"  Alcilia." 

BOURNE.  The  following  stanza  from  the  same 
volume,  referring  to  Cato  and  Mutius  Scaevola,  is 
unquestionably  the  best  in  it. 

"  Oh,  what  a  death  had  Cato  dyed 

if  it  had  lawfull  beene, 
And  had  not  by  the  iust  decrees 

of  God  beene  made  a  sinne ! 
No  lesse  doe  I  the  worthy  fact 

of  Mucius  commend, 
That  Lyuie  in  his  story  hath 

so  eloquently  pende." 

ELLIOT.  I  do  not  find  that  that  has  much  more 
merit  than  the  rest. 


SEVENTH  CONVERSATION.  125 

BOURNE.  The  degree  of  difference  is  rather  minute, 
and  we  may  pass  the  book  over  without  further 
quotation  or  remark. 

MORTON.  I  see  that  two  other  tracts  still  remain 
to  be  noticed :  what  are  they  ? 

BOURNE.  I  had  looked  them  out  for  examination, 
but  since  I  did  so,  I  have  discovered  that  they  have 
both  been  mentioned  in  Beloe's  "  Anecdotes  of  Li- 
terature and  scarce  Books :" — as  it  is  not  necessary 
that  we  should  travel  over  ground  that  has  been 
trodden  by  any  precursors,  I  have  determined  to  omit 
them,  and  to  leave  them  to  your  separate  examina- 
tion :  the  first  is  by  Rowland  Broughton,  a  new 
name  in  the  history  of  our  poetry,  and  is  a  funeral 
poem  on  the  death  of  the  Marquis  of  Winchester 
(1572)j  and  the  second,  a  production  of  a  similar 
kind  on  the  Countess  of  Lenox  (1577),  by  John 
Phillip  or  Phillips,  whose  production  on  Sir  P.  Sidney 
you  cannot  have  forgotten. 

ELLIOT.  Certainly  not :  I  remember  so  much  of  it 
that  even  if  this  "  excessive  rarity,"  (for  such  I  take 
it  for  granted  it  is),  had  not  been  mentioned  by 
Beloe,  I  should  not  have  wished  to  have  heard  a 
single  line  from  it. 

BOURNE.  Rowland  Broughton  is  quite  as  bad,  if 
not  worse ;  but  then  his  performance  is  such  a  sin- 
gular curiosity.  Phillip's  tract  contains  a  fulsome 
and  rather  curious  character  of  Elizabeth:  it  is  better 
than  his  poem  on  the  death  of  Sir  P.  Sidney,  though 
the  last  was  a  much  Liter  production. 


126  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  Is  that  character  of  Elizabeth  given  in 
Beloe?  I  should  like  to  hear  it:— the  subject  is  in- 
viting, though  it  may  not  be  well  treated. 

BOURNE.  It  has  not  been  quoted,  and  certainly 
deserves  extracting  f  and  I  would  read  it,  if  I  could 
prevail  upon  this  objector  "  to  shut  his  ears  like 
adder  to  the  sound." 

ELLIOT.  If  it  be  short,  I  shall  not  attempt  to  resist 
your  wishes  on  the  subject. 

BOURNE.  It  is  not  long;  and  even  you,  I  think, 
will  find  something  amusing  in  it.  It  is  as  follows : 

"  With  in  her  brest  lustice  a  place  hath  pyght, 
And  in  her  mercy  welds  the  supreme  sway : 

The  poore  opprest  to  helpe  she  doth  delight, 
Her  hand  is  prest  to  shield  them  from  decay : 

To  all  the  fruites  of  loue  she  doth  display  j 
Her  eares  attend  to  hear  each  subiects  wrong, 
Like  Saba  she  her  subiects  rules  among. 

The  sacred  Nimph  that  noble  Vesta  night 
Within  her  bower  accompanies  the  Queene. 

Like  Phaebus  rayes  her  glorye  glisters  bright, 
Adornde  she  sits  with  Lawrell  lasting  greene. 

Pernassus  mount  to  scale  this  Prince  is  scene ; 
Of  Helicon,  that  Riuer  running  cleere, 
To  taste  her  fill  our  Pandra  hath  desyre. 

The  scepter  she  like  sad  Cassandra  swaies ; 
Corinna  like  augmentes  her  learned  skill. 
Then  Triton  see  in  haste  thou  take  thy  wayes 


SF.VENTH  CONVERSATION.  127 

To  spred  her  fame  with  taunting  trumpet  shrill ! 
Extoll  our  Queene  of  God  be  loued  still ; 

Whose  word  and  will,  dispight  of  Chacus  yre 
She  to  defende  hath  settled  true  desyre. 

Her  countryes  weale  to  worke  her  heart  is  bent  j 

Haut  Hi/drain  head  she  hath  cut  off  indeede : 
Each  Minotaure  by  skill  she  doth  preuent 

That  in  her  soyle  of  strife  would  sow  the  seede. 
The  woolfe  she  quailes,  the  lambe  she  seekes  to  feede, 

With  pleasant  mylke  and  honey  passing  pure. 

God  graunt  on  earth  her  grace  may  long  endure !" 

MORTON.  The  lines  are  not  inharmonious,  but  the 
allusions  are  affected  and  pedantic. 

BOURNE.  Of  course — that  was  in  the  spirit  of  the 
age.  Nash,  in  his  most  humorous  and  clever  piece 
of  exaggeration,  called  "  Lenten  Stuff,"  and  printed 
in  1599,  mentions  three  dramatic  productions  in  terms 
of  no  great  praise :  one  of  them  he  calls  "  Phillips 
Venus;"  and  this  may  be  the  Phillips  we  are  now 
speaking  of,  or  it  may  be  Phillips  the  actor. 

ELLIOT.  I  have  read  some  very  amusing  quotations 
from  that  pamphlet  of  Nash's. 

BOURNE.  Very  likely:  you  may  see  the  whole  of 
it  reprinted  in  the  "  Harleian  Miscellany,"  and  it 
will  well  repay  the  time  spent  in  going  through  it. 
Nash  tells  us  in  it  of  the  troubles  he  had  to  pass 
through,  in  consequence  of  his  unrecovered  play  of 
the  "  Isle  of  Dogs." 


128  SEVENTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  I  have  never  met  with  a  tract  that  con- 
tained more  curious  matter,  both  relating  to  himself 
and  his  contemporaries.  It  is  there  that  he  bestows 
such  applause  on  "  Kit  Marlow"  for  his  "  Hero  and 
Leander,"  praised,  as  you  noticed,  in  the  poem  dedi- 
cated to  Walton.  He  likewise  speaks  of  a  play 
called  "  The  Case  is  altered,"  which  was  probably 
not  Ben  Jonson's. 

BOURNE.  Your  patience  in  listening  to  the  quota- 
tion from  Phillips  shall  be  well  rewarded  to-mor- 
row, by  the  examination  of  a  greater  and  more  in- 
disputably valuable  curiosity  than  I  have  yet  shown 
you  j  I  mean  the  novel  on  which  Shakespeare  founded 
his  «  Twelfth  Night." 


Tin; 


POETICAL  DECAMERON. 


THE  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 


VOL.  II. 


CONTENTS 

OF  THE  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 


The  promise  performed — A  novel  hitherto  undiscovered,  from 
which  Shakespeare  took  the  plot  of  his  "  Twelfth  Night,"  to  be 
found  in  "  Rich  his  Farewell  to  Militarie  profession,"  by  Barnabe 
Rich,  1606— The  date  when  "  Twelfth  Night"  was  written— 
Rich's  collection  of  novels  originally  printed  between  1578,  and 
1581 — Proofs  of  this  fact — Doubt  whether  additions  were  made  in 
the  reprint  of  1606 — Sir  Christopher  Hatton,  the  patron  of  Rich 
— Tancred  and  Gismunda,  1592 — PoUmantfia,  1595,  quoted  re- 
garding Sir  C.  Hatton  and  his  poems — Rich's  account  of  his 
"  vpholder's"  house  and  state  at  Holdenby,  from  the  prefatory 
matter  to  his  "  Farewell" — His  name  and  productions  omitted 
by  Ritson,  &c.  but  the  defect  partially  supplied — His  numerous 
publications — Rich's  concern  in  the  Netherland  wars  with  Gascoyne, 
Churchyard,  Whetstone,  and  other  poets — Whetstone's  account 
of  the  death  of  Sir  P.  Sidney,  from  Churchyard's  "  True  Dis- 
course Historical!,"  &c.  1602 — Epitaph  from  the  same — Sir  W. 
Raleigh's  epitaph  on  Sir  P.  Sidney — Milton's  quotation  from 
Sir  John  Harington's  translation  of  Ariosto — "  Rich  his  Farewell 
to  Militarie  profession"  not  known  to  any  bibliographical  anti- 
quaries— Plan  of  the  work — Anticipation  of  the  Commentators  on 
Shakespeare  fulfilled — Argument  to  the  second  novel  in  Rich's 
work,  called  "  Apolonius  and  Silla" — Its  commencement  and 
incidents  previous  to  the  opening  to  Shakespeare's  "  Twelfth 
Night,"  with  their  use — Dr.  Johnson's  censure  of  the  sudden  pro- 
ject of  Viola — Resemblance  between  Rich  and  Shakespeare — 
Correspondence  of  the  characters — Description  of  Julina,  a  widow, 
and  the  mode  of  conducting  the  Duke's  amour,  by  the  intervention 
of  Silla  in  male  attire,  and  under  the  name  of  her  brother  Silvio 


132  CONTENTS. 

— Julina's  love  for  Silvio,  and  her  mistake  of  the  brother  for 
the  disguised  sister — Likeness  between  the  brother  and  sister — 
The  consequences  of  Julina's  love  and  her  perilous  distress — Silla 

accused Her  speech,  and  her  mode  of  clearing  herself  from  the 

charge Shakespeare's  improvements  on  his  original — The  Duke's 

declaration  and  marriage  to  Silla — Re-appearance  of  the  real 
Silvio — His  attachment  to  Julina,  and  their  final  and  happy  union 
— Remarks  on  Shakespeare's  deviations,  &c — Of  the  other  seven 
histories  in  Rich's  work — Specimen  of  his  poetry  from  the  first 
novel  in  the  same — One  original  of  Romeo  and  Juliet  in  Painter's 
"  Palace  of  Pleasure" — A  poem,  by  one  William  Painter,  called 
"  Chaucer  painted" — Scarcity  and  curiosity  of  the  novels  Shake- 
speare employed,  particularly  early  editions — Thomas  Lodge's 
"  Rosalynde:  Euphues  golden  Legacie,"  1590,  the  original  of 
"  As  you  like  it" — Alteration  of  Lodge's  title — John  Lilly's 
rustication  from  Oxford — Specimens  of  Lodge's  "  Rosalynde,"  to 
show  how  far  and  in  what  way  Shakespeare  was  indebted  to  it — 
Description  of  Rosalind,  and  quotation  from  James  Shirley's 
"  Sisters"  on  hyperboles — Resemblance  between  Shakespeare  and 
Lodge — Further  extract  from  Lodge — Robert  Greene's  "  Dorastus 
and  Fawnia,"  1588,  the  foundation  of  "  The  Winter's  Tale"— 
Deviations  of  Shakespeare  from  it — Greene's  very  rare  tract,  called 
"A  Mirror  of  Modesty,"  1584,  quoted — Different  editions  of 
"Dorastus and  Fawnia,"  with  their  variations — Poem  by  Greene — 
His  motto,  and  curious  quotation  regarding  it  from  his  "  Perimedes 
the  Black-Smith,"  1588— On  blank  verse  poets,  &c.  from  the 
same — Extracts  from  "  Dorastus  and  Fawnia" — Character  of  Bel- 
laria — The  fate  of  Fawnia,  and  her  first  interview  with  Dorastus, 
compared  with  Shakespeare — Quotations  from  Epistles  by  Romeo 
and  Juliet  in  "  Aurorata"  and  "  Loves  Looking-glasse,"  1644, 
by  Thomas  Prujean — Incident  in  Fortescue's  "  Foreste,"  1571, 
similar  to  the  contrivance  in  "  All's  Well  that  ends  Well." 


THE 


POETICAL  DECAMERON. 


THE  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  Now,  then,  to  claim  the  execution  of  your 
promise :  do  not  let  it  be  like  those  of  princes,  which, 
as  Beaumont  and  Fletcher  say  in  "  Philaster,"  find 
"  both  birth  and  burial  in  one  breath." 

BOURNE.  And  very  properly,  according  to  Chapman 
in  his  "  Alphonsus,"  1654  5 

"  A  prince  above  all  things  must  seem  devout ; 
But  nothing  is  so  dangerous  to  his  state 
As  to  regard  his  promise  or  his  oath." 

ELLIOT.  That  sentiment,  I  suppose,  proceeds  from 
the  mouth  of  some  parasite  :  however  it  cannot  be 
applicable  to  yourself  until  you  become  a  prince : 
therefore,  without  further  postponement,  produce 
the  much  talked  of  treasure — the  novel  from  which 
Shakespeare  took  the  plot  of  his  "  Twelfth  Night." 
Quanta  la  speranza  diventa  minore,  tanto  I'amore 
maggiorfarsi,  is  a  sentiment  from  Boccacio  (G.  III. 


134  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

N.  2.)  in  which  you  seem  fully  to  concur  ;  for  as 
book-hunters  have  often  been  compared  to  lovers, 
you  think  that  delay  will  increase  desire. 

BOURNE.  To  which  delay  you  are  yourself  con- 
tributing j  the  book  containing  what  you  so  much 
wish  to  see,  was  in  my  hand  even  before  you  began 
your  speech. 

MORTON.  And  you  might,  by  reading  the  title,  at 
least  have  saved  yourself  the  trouble  of  a  reply. 

BOURNE.  Having  endured  the  speech,  justice  re- 
quired the  reply  $  but  as  she  is  now  satisfied,  I  will 
read  the  title : 

"  Rich  his  Farewell  to  Militarie  Profession :  Con- 
teining  very  pleasant  discourses  fit  for  a  peaceable 
time.  Gathered  together  for  the  onely  delight  of 
the  courteous  Gentlewomen  both  of  England  and 
Ireland,  for  whose  onely  pleasure  they  were  collected 
together,  and  vnto  whom  they  are  directed  and  de- 
dicated. Newly  augmented.  By  Barnabe  Riche, 
Gentleman. — Malui  me  diuitem  esse  quam  vocari. — 
Imprinted  at  London  by  G.  E.  for  Thomas  Adams. 
1606." 

ELLIOT.  There,  the  date  is  enough  :  what  do  we 
want  to  know  about  G.  E.  or  Thomas  Adams  ?  You 
are  as  particular  about  printers  as  if  you  were  the 
editor  of  the  new  edition  of  Ames. 

MORTON.  Was  not  Twelfth  Night  written  before 
1606,  the  date  of  Rich's  book,  where  you  say  the 
original  novel  is  inserted  ? 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  135 

BOURNE.  No  j  but  if  it  were,  I  could  still  satisfy 
you  that  the  novel  in  this  volume  was  employed  by 
Shakespeare.  However,  it  seems  agreed  by  the 
commentators,  who  have  taken  some  pains  upon 
the  subject,  that  Twelfth  Night  was  not  written 
until  after  1612.  Mr.  Chalmers  says  in  1613,  and 
Mr.  Tyrwhit,  and  after  him  Malone,  in  1614.  Dr. 
Drake,  with  every  desire  to  strike  out  something 
new  if  there  be  the  least  pretence  for  it,  fixes  it  be- 
tween the  two,  in  1613;  so  that  6,  7>  or  8  years 
most  likely  elapsed  between  the  publication  of  Rich's 
work,  in  1606,  and  the  writing  of  Twelfth  Night 

ELLIOT.  I  do  not  understand  the  first  part  of  your 
observation.  If  Twelfth  Night  had  been  written, 
we  will  say,  in  1605,  how  can  you  prove  that 
Shakespeare  availed  himself  of  Rich's  novel,  unless 
he  saw  it  in  MS.  ?  It  was  not  printed  until  16O6. 

MORTON.  I  suppose  that  the  words  on  the  title- 
page  "  newly  augmented"  have  something  to  do 
with  answering  that  question. 

BOURNE.  They  have.  I  have  never  seen  any  other 
edition  of  Rich's  Farewel  but  this  of  1606,  but  in- 
dependently of  those  words  "  newly  augmented,"  I 
can  decisively  establish  from  the  prefatory  matter, 
that  it  must  have  been  originally  written  and  printed 
between  1578  and  1581 :  if,  therefore,  Twelfth  Night 
had  been  our  great  dramatic  poet's  first,  instead  of 
being  his  last  play,  he  might  still  have  been  indebted 
to  this  source. 


136  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

ELLIOT.  What  does  the  prefatory  matter  con- 
sist of? 

BOURNE.  The  point  I  refer  to  is  established  by 
the  epistle  "  To  the  noble  Souldiours  both  of  Eng- 
land and  Ireland/'  for  the  author  says  in  it,  "  I  re- 
member that  in  my  last  ivork,  intituled  the  Alarum 
to  England,  I  promised  to  take  in  hand  some  other 
thing."  Therefore  the  "  Alarum  to  England"  im- 
mediately preceded  what  is  before  us,  and  that 
Alarum  bears  date  in  1578. 

MORTON.  But  there  might  be  an  interval  of 
many  years  between  the  two,  notwithstanding :  the 
"Alarum  to  England"  might  be  printed  in  1578, 
and  be  the  author's  last  work,  though  the  Farewel 
might  not  appear  for  20  or  30  years  afterwards. 

BOURNE.  That  is  possible,  though  not  probable ; 
and  it  is,  besides,  contradicted  by  positive  fact.  In 
1581  Rich  published  the  first  volume  of  his  "  Straunge 
and  wonderfull  aduentures  of  Do  Simonides,"  so  that 
the  "  Farewel"  must  have  appeared  between  1578 
and  1581,  or  Rich  could  not  have  mentioned  his 
(<  Alarum  to  England"  as  his  last  work. 

ELLIOT.  A  very  clear  argument,  and  a  very  safe 
conclusion :  the  words  "  newly  augmented,"  indeed, 
prove  that  it  had  been  printed  before,  though  in  a 
shorter  form.  It  might  be  curious  to  ascertain  of 
what  the  augmentations  consisted. 

BOURNE.  I  much  doubt  if,  in  fact,  there  were  any : 
perhaps  "  newly  augmented"  at  that  day  meant  no- 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  137 

thing  more  than  the  common  words  "  with  ad- 
ditions" upon  the  republication  of  a  modern  work, 
where  the  principal,  if  not  the  only,  addition  is  a 
new  title-page. 

MORTON.  Very  likely.  Is  there  any  thing  else  in 
the  volume  to  confirm  the  opinion  that  "  Rich  his 
Farewel"  was  first  printed  much  earlier  than  1606? 

BOURNE.  There  is  ;  and  the  proof  is  remarkable 
on  another  account,  from  its  reference  to  Sir  Christo- 
pher Hatton,  who  is  spoken  of  as  alive,  and  who 
died  in  1591.  He  appears  to  have  been  the 
"  Maister  &  vpholder"  of  Barnabe  Rich,  and  was 
himself  a  poet.  In  all  probability  he  penned  the 
fourth  act  of  "  Tancred  and  Gismunda,"  in  Dodsley's 
Collection,  and  if  we  may  rely  upon  the  authority  of 
the  writer  of  Polimanteia  (who  not  publishing  until 
four  years  after  Sir  C.  Hatton's  death,  seems  to  have 
had  no  motive  to  flatter) ,  he  must  have  been  a  con- 
siderable poet.  "  Then  (says  he)  name  but  Hatton, 
the  Muses  fauorite,  the  Churches  musick,  Learn- 
ings Patron,  my  once  poore  Hands  ornament ;  the 
Courtiers  grace,  the  Schollars  countenance  and  the 
Guardes  Captaine." 

ELLIOT.  A  fine  specimen  of  the  art  of  sinking  in 
prose,  for  the  ridicule  of  a  new  Martinis. 

BOURNE.  I  quote  it  for  the  inference,  not  for  the 
style :  "  Sir  Christopher  Hatton,  L.  Chancelor  of 
England,"  is  inserted  in  the  margin,  and  from  hence 
it  would  seem  that  he  had  written  much  more  than 
lias  come  down  to  our  time. 


138  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  Ritson  only  mentions  an  acrostic  by 
him,  and  there  is  some  doubt  about  that :  "  the 
Church's  music,"  in  what  you  read  from  Polimanteia, 
would  imply  that  he  had  translated  Psalms,  or  at 
least,  written  some  sacred  poems.  Horace  Walpole, 
if  I  recollect  rightly,  attributes  to  a  kinsman  of 
Sir  Christopher's  a  translation  of  the  Psalms,  not 
printed  till  1644,  and  Wood  assigns  them  to  Jeremy 
Taylor.  It  is  not  impossible  that  they  were  in  fact 
the  work  of  Lord  Chancellor  Hatton.  But  what 
says  Rich  regarding  him  in  his  "  Farewel  ?"  any 
thing  relating  to  his  works  ? 

BOURNE.  I  wish  he  did ;  but  still  what  he  tells  us 
is  interesting :  it  principally  refers  to  the  magni- 
ficent house  Hatton  built  at  his  birth-place,  Hol- 
denby,  in  Northamptonshire,  and  the  state  and  hos- 
pitality there  observed,  which  gives  one  a  good 
notion  of  the  housekeeping  of  the  great  men  of  that 
day.  He  says  :  "  And  here  I  cannot  but  speake  of 
the  bounty  of  that  noble  gentleman  Sir  Christopher 
Hatton ,  my  very  good  Maister  and  vpholder ;  who 
hauing  builded  a  house  in  Northamtonshire,  called 
by  the  name  of  Holdenby,  which  house  for  the 
brauery  of  the  buildings,  for  the  statelinesse  of  the 
chambers,  for  the  rich  furniture  of  the  lodgings,  for 
the  conueyance  of  the  offices,  and  for  all  other  ne- 
cessaries appertenent  to  a  Pallace  of  pleasure,  is 
thought  by  those  that  have  iudgement,  to  be  incom- 
parable, and  to  haue  no  fellowe  in  England  that  is 
out  of  her  Maiesties  hands  :  and  although  this  house 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  139 

is  not  yet  fully  finished,  and  is  but  a  newe  erection, 
yet  it  differeth  farre  from  the  workesthat  are  vsed  now 
a  daies  in  many  places.  I  meane  where  the  houses 
are  built  with  a  great  nuber  of  chimnies,  and  yet  the 
smoke  comes  forth  but  at  one  tunnel.  This  house 
is  not  built  on  that  manner,  for  as  it  hath  sundry 
Chimnies,  so  they  cast  forth  seuerall  smoakes  5  and 
such  worthy  port  and  daily  hospitality  kept,  that 
although  the  owner  himselfe  vseth  not  to  come  there 
once  in  two  yeares,  yet  I  dare  vndertake,  there  is 
daily  prouision  to  be  found  conuenient  to  intertaine 
any  noble  man  with  his  whole  traine,  that  should  hap 
to  call  in  of  a  sodaine.  And  how  many  gentlemen 
and  strangers,  that  comes  but  to  see  the  house  are 
there  dayly  welcommed,  feasted,  and  well  lodged, 
from  whence  he  shold  come,  be  he  rich,  be  he  poore, 
that  should  not  there  be  entertained,  if  it  please  him 
to  call  in.  To  bee  short,  Holdenby  giueth  daily  re- 
liefe  to  such  as  be  in  want,  for  the  space  of  sixe  or 
seauen  miles  compasse." 

ELLIOT.  I  should  not  complain  of  your  reading 
that  extract,  or  of  your  dwelling  so  long  on  the  pre- 
fatory matter  of  almost  any  other  book  j  but  when 
we  have  so  important  and  so  interesting  an  object  in 
view,  I  can  hardly  spare  time  even  to  inquire  who 
and  what  was  the  author  of  the  tale  which  Shake- 
speare condescended  to  adapt  to  the  stage.  However, 
as  I  know  nothing  about  Barnabe  Rich,  I  must  first 
beg  you  to  take  my  ignorance  into  consideration. 


140  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  Did  Rich  write  nothing  but  prose  ?  for 
his  name,  I  see,  is  not  even  mentioned  by  Ritson. 

BOURNE.  It  is  an  unaccountable  omission,  and 
the  same  strange  error  is  committed  by  Sir  E. 
Brydges,  in  his  new  edition  of  the  Theatrum  Poeta- 
rum.  Mr.  Haslewood,  however,  has,  in  a  great  de- 
gree, supplied  the  deficiency  in  the  late  reprint  of 
"  the  Paradise  of  Dainty  Devises,"  but  he  neglects 
some  particulars  of  Rich's  biography  that  might 
have  been  gleaned  from  his  pamphlets :  indeed  he 
does  not  notice  the  titles  of  several ;  one  of  them  is 
called  "  A  short  Suruey  of  Ireland,"  bearing  date  at 
London,  in  the  reign  of  William  the  Conqueror. 

ELLIOT.  Explain  what  you  mean. 

BOURNE.  Why,  if  printed  dates  would  decide  the 
point,  there  would  here  be  an  end  of  the  mighty 
dispute  about  the  Oxford  St.  Jerome,  for  this  tract 
by  Rich  purports  to  have  been  printed  399  years 
before  it,  viz.  in  1069. 

MORTON.  An  obvious  misprint  for  1609,  by  the 
transposition  of  the  figures. 

ELLIOT.  Can  we  not  defer  such  trifles,  that  we 
may  the  sooner  arrive  at  the  point  to  which  we  are 
directing  our  course  ? 

BOURNE.  You  must  not  be  quite  so  free  in  the  use 
of  your  whip,  or  your  horses  may  grow  restive.  I 
will  not  delay  you  by  reading  the  titles  of  the  several 
tracts  omitted  by  Mr.  Haslewood,  and  they  are  of 
less  interest,  because  they  relate  chiefly  to  Ireland  : 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  141 

they,  however,  contain  some  biographical  particu- 
lars j  for  instance,  in  the  dedication  of  his  "  Short 
Suruey  of  Ireland"  to  the  Earl  of  Saresbury,  he  speaks 
of  himself  as  a  mere  Souldier,  in  which  capacity  old 
Churchyard  saw  him  acting  in  the  Netherlands  about 
1572.  "  I  am  no  diuine  (says  llich)  and  it  is  truth  j 
I  am  no  scholler  and  that  is  true  too :  what  am  I 
then  ?  I  am  a  Souldier,  a  professed  Souldier,  better 
practised  in  my  pike  than  in  my  penne."  In  his 
"  New  Description  of  Ireland,"  1G10,  after  abusing 
"  idle  Poets,  Bardes,  and  Rythmers"  who  have 
written  falsehoods  upon  the  subject,  he  talks  of  his 
service  in  the  army  for  40  years ;  and  two  years  after- 
wards, in  his  "  Excuse"  for  the  above  work,  he 
adds  that  it  was  then  40  years  or  thereabouts  since 
he  first  came  into  Ireland. 

ELLIOT.  What  is  your  authority  for  saying  that 
Churchyard  saw  Rich  acting  as  a  soldier  in  the 
Netherlands  about  1 572  ? 

BOURNE.  He  was  one  of  the  phalanx  of  poets  who 
united  their  endeavours  under  Elizabeth  to  free  the 
Low  Countries  from  the  weight  of  the  Spanish  yoke. 
At  the  head  of  them,  you  know,  was  Sir  Philip 
Sidney,  and  the  names  of  Gascoyne,  Churchyard, 
Whetstone,  Rich,  and  others,  are  to  be  included  in 
the  muster-roll. 

MORTON.  Churchyard,  in  his  "  Trve  Discovrse 
historicall  of  the  succeeding  Governovrs  in  the 
Netherlands,"  160*2,  a  tract  we  have  before  noticed, 


142  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

states  several  facts,  quoting  in  the  margin  (p.  19),' 
"  Captaine  Barnabey  Rich  his  notes."  George  Gas- 
coyne,  in  the  same  passage,  is  called  a  captain. 

BOURNE.  That  piece  by  Churchyard  is  one  of  his 
latest,  and  one  of  his  commonest ;  but  it  contains 
some  important  historical  facts,  and  among  them  a, 
very  interesting  account,  which  I  have  not  seen 
quoted,  of  the  manner  of  the  death  of  Sir  P.  Sidney 
before  Zuphen,  on  the  22d  of  September  1586. 
Churchyard  gives  the  relation  on  the  authority  of 
Whetstone,  who,  as  you  have  seen,  wrote  a  funeral 
poem  on  the  fate  of  this  worthy. 

ELLIOT.  It  is  impossible  for  the  name  of  Sidney 
to  be  mentioned  without  feeling  a  deep  interest  to 
know  all  that  can  be  said  regarding  him  j  therefore 
let  us  hear  the  passage. 

BOURNE.  A  small'  part  of  it  is  sufficient.  "  This 
noble  Knight  (says  Churchyard,  citing  Whetstone, 
with  whom  he  was  no  doubt  personally  intimate) 
like  Ccesar,  charged  the  enemie  so  sore,  that  first  an 
enuious  Musquetier  from  the  spightfull  Spaniards 
espying  his  oportunitie  slew  his  horse  vnder  him ; 
who  getting  to  horse  again  was  with  a  poysoned 
bullet  from  the  enemie  shot  in  the  thigh,  wanting 
his  Cuisses,  which  might  have  defended  him.  The 
wound  being  deepe  and  shiuering  the  bone,  yet  his 
heart  was  good,  and  his  courage  little  abated,  one 
Vdal,  a  gentleman,  alighted  and  led  his  horse  softly, 
to  whom  he  thus  spake  :  Let  goe,  let  goe  till  I  Jail 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  143 

to  the  ground,  The  foe  shall  miss  the  glory  of  my 
wound.  And  so  riding  out  of  the  field  with  a  rare  & 
constant  courage,  his  wound  was  searched,  no  salue 
too  deare  but  was  sought,  no  skill  so  curious  but 
was  tried  to  cure  ease  &  recover  this  noble  souldier 
languishing  in  paine,  all  remediles." 

ELLIOT.  Churchyard  there  quotes  two  lines  from 
Whetstone's  funeral  poem. 

MORTON.  He  does,  and  what  you  have  read,  I 
think,  is  followed  by  an  epitaph  by  Whetstone  upon 
Sidney. 

BOURNE.  Churchyard  inserts  two  epitaphs  j  but 
one  of  them  has  been  reprinted  :  that  by  Whetstone 
is  but  just  worth  preserving. 

"  Here  vnder  lyes  Phillip  Sydney  Knight, 
True  to  his  Prince,  learned,  staid  and  wise  j 
Who  lost  his  life  in  honourable  fight, 
Who  vanquisht  death,  in  that  he  did  despise 
To  liue  in  pompe,  by  others  brought  to  passe ; 
Which  oft  he  tearm'd  a  Dyamond  set  in  Brasse." 

MORTON.  This  puts  me  in  mind  of  a  question  I  had 
to  ask,  and  which  I  forgot  until  now.  You  remem- 
ber, perhaps,  that  Sir  John  Harington,  in  the  notes 
to  the  16th  book  of  his  Orlando  Furioso,  mentions  Sir 
P.  Sidney,  and  an  epitaph  written  upon  him  by  Sir 
Walter  Raleigh,  in  which,  according  to  Harington, 
he  is  called  "  the  Scipio  and  the  Petrarke  of  our 
time  :"  where  is  that  epitaph  to  be  found  ? 


144  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION: 

BOURNE.  That  is  a  question  I  should  be  glad  to 
be  able  to  answer,  as  I  never  could  discover  any  such 
epitaph :  yet  I  cannot  help  being  persuaded  that  it 
once  existed  though  now  lost,  and  that  Sir  John 
Harington  is  not  mistaken. 

MORTON.  That  translation  of  Ariosto,  much  as  it 
has  been  abused,  has  had  the  honour  of  being  em- 
ployed by  Milton  in  the  first  book  of  his  treatise  "  Of 
Reformation  touching  Church  Discipline." 

BOURNE.  He  quotes,  with  verbal  accuracy,  the 
four  last  lines  of  the  72d  stanza  of  B.  34,  but  he 
disapproves  entirely  of  the  mode  in  which  Harington 
rendered  the  four  last  lines  of  the  79th  stanza  of  the 
same  book,  and  accordingly  wholly  alters  it ;  so  that 
Milton's  testimony  is  both  for  and  against  the 
translation. 

MORTON.  I  only  noticed  it  by  the  way,  and  not 
with  any  view  to  draw  on  a  discussion  now  about 
Sir  John  Harington's  merits.  Do  not  let  us  wander 
farther  from  Rich  and  his  "  Farewell  to  Militarie 
Profession."  Our  preface  has  already  been  suf- 
ficiently long  and  excursive. 

ELLIOT.  You  mentioned  Mr.  Haslewood's  list  of 
Rich's  productions,  and  certain  omissions  he  had 
made.  Is  the  "  Farewel"  now  under  our  considera- 
tion, mentioned  by  him  ? 

BOURNE.  It  is  not,  and  there  are  few  who  pos- 
sess more  knowledge  on  the  subject  of  old  poetry 
than  the  gentleman  you  have  named.  This  error  he 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  145 

commits  in  common  with  all  bibliographers,  nor 
have  I  seen  the  "  Farewell  to  Militarie  profession" 
included  in  any  catalogue  that  has  come  under  my 
observation. 

MORTON.  It  is  as  important  a  discovery,  recol- 
lecting its  contents,  as  could  be  well  made :  a  first 
edition  would  of  course  be  still  more  valuable. 

BOURNE.  I  dare  say  a  copy  of  it  exists,  if  one 
knew  where  to  lay  one's  hands  upon  it. 

ELLIOT.  What  is  the  general  plan  of  the  work  ? 
the  title-page  only  mentions  "  pleasant  discourses :" 
what  is  to  be  understood  by  those  words  ? 

BOURNE.  The  word  Discourse  had  a  very  un- 
defined meaning  at  that  time :  Rich  uses  it  to  ex- 
press what  we  now  call  novels  or  tales,  and  of  these 
there  are  eight  in  this  small  4to.  volume,  so  that  they 
are  not  of  very  considerable  length.  In  an  address 
"  to  the  Readers  in  generall,"  Rich  observes  :  "  The 
Histories  (altogeather)  are  eight  in  number,  whereof, 
the  first,  the  second,  the  fift,  the  seuenth,  and  eight 
are  tales  that  are  but  forged  onely  for  delight ; 
neither  credible  to  be  beleeued,  nor  hurtfull  to  be 
perused.  The  third,  the  fourth,  and  the  sixt  are 
Italian  Histories  written  likewise  for  pleasure  by 
maister  L.  B." 

ELLIOT.  And  which  of  these  is  the  foundation  of 
Shakespeare's  play  ? 

BOURNE.  The  second.  The  commentators  an- 
ticipated what  has  now  fortunately  occurred,  that 

VOL.  II.  L 


146  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

the  original  novel  of  Twelfth  Night  might,  at  some 
future  time,  be  discovered.  The  likeness  in  parts  is 
extremely  strong,  and  indeed  there  will  be  no  room 
for  any  doubt,  whether  Shakespeare  did  or  did  not 
employ  it. 

MORTON.  But  we  have  not  yet  heard  the  title  of 
the  novel ;  as  it  is  the  second  it  comes  among  those 
which  the  author  states  "  are  but  forged  only  for 
delight." 

BOURNE.  The  history  is  entitled  "  OF  APOLONIUS 
AND  SILLA,"  and  you  will  find  that  throughout 
Shakespeare  has  changed  all  the  names,  as  indeed 
in  such  cases  he  frequently  did. — The  argument  of 
the  story  is  thus  given  after  the  title. 

"  The  argument  of  the  second  Historic. 

^f  Apolonius,  Duke,  hauing  spent  a  yeares  seruice 
in  the  warres  against  the  Turke,  returning  home- 
ward with  his  companie  by  sea  was  driuen  by  force 
of  weather  to  the  He  of  Cypres,  where  he  was  well 
receiued  by  Pontus  gouernour  of  the  same  He,  with 
whom  Silla,  daughter  to  Pontus,  fell  so  stratigely  in 
Ipue  that  after  Apolonius  was  departed  to  Constan- 
tinople, Silla  with  one  man  followed  and  comming 
to  Constantinople  she  senied  Apolonius  in  the  habite 
of  a  man,  and  after  many  pretie  accidents  falling 
out,  she  was  knowne  to  Apolonius,  who  in  requitall 
of  her  loue  married  her." 

MORTON.    Excepting  the   circumstance   of  Silla 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  147 

serving  the  duke  in  man's  attire,  and  their  subsequent 
marriage,  the  argument  does  not  indicate  any  other 
resemblance  to  Shakespeare's  play:  Rich  lays  his 
scene  in  Constantinople,  but  Shakespeare  in  Illyria. 

ELLIOT.  Sebastian  and  Olivia,  or  any  persons  an- 
swering to  them,  seem  entirely  omitted  by  Rich. 

BOURNE.  In  the  argument,  not  in  the  story:  you 
would  not  wish  to  have  the  argument  as  long  and 
as  particular  as  the  narrative :  it  cannot  include 
every  thing ;  notwithstanding,  it  was  merely  casting 
my  eye  over  the  argument  that  first  led  me  to  sus- 
pect a  resemblance,  which  I  afterwards  found  most 
satisfactorily  confirmed.  The  body  of  the  history 
opens  with  various  reflections  on  the  influence  of 
"Dame  Errour"  in  human  affairs,  and  especially  in 
those  of  love,  after  which  it  relates  that  Apolonius, 
"  a  worthy  Duke,"  a  very  young  man,  who  had 
levied  an  army  and  served  against  the  Turk,  while 
Constantinople  was  yet  in  the  hands  of  the  Christians, 
returning  home  after  one  year's  victories,  was  com- 
pelled, by  stress  of  weather,  to  seek  shelter  in  Cyprus 
(or  Cypres,  as  Rich  calls  it) :  he  was  here  entertained 
very  courteously  by  Pontus,  the  governor,  who  had 
a  son  named  Silvio  and  a  daughter  named  Silla :  the 
latter  soon  fell  desperately  in  love  with  Duke  Apolo- 
nius, and  "  vsed  so  great  familiarity  with  him,  as  her 
honour  might  well  permitte,  and  fed  him  with  such 
amorous  baites  as  the  modesty  of  a  maide  eould 
reasonably  afforde." 

L2 


148  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

ELLIOT.  Then  does  Silvio,  brother  to  Silla,  cor- 
respond with  Shakespeare's  Sebastian,  brother  to 
Viola? 

BOURNE.  Throughout. — Apolonius  makes  no  re- 
turn, and  indeed  scarcely  seems  to  notice  the  at- 
tentions of  the  young  lady,  but  with  the  first  fair 
wind  sails  home  to  Constantinople.  Thither  Silla 
resolves  to  follow  him,  and  is  aided  in  her  design  by 
Pedro,  a  faithful  servant,  in  whose  company,  and  as 
whose  sister,  she  embarks  in  a  galley  that  happened 
to  be  preparing  to  quit  the  port.  On  the  voyage 
the  captain  falls  in  love  with  the  beautiful  damsel, 
makes  amorous  advances,  and  at  last  offers  her 
violence :  she  is  obliged  by  his  threats  to  appear 
consenting,  and  having  obtained  a  short  respite,  she 
is  about  to  destroy  herself  with  a  knife,  to  prevent 
the  completion  of  the  wicked  purposes  of  her  boister- 
ous lover,  when  a  dreadful  storm  opportunely  rises 
to  divert  her  from  her  purpose,  and  the  vessel  being 
wrecked,  all  are  drowned  excepting  Silla,  who  escapes 
by  clinging  to  a  chest  belonging  to  the  captain. 

MORTON.  To  all  this  there  is  nothing  parallel  in 
Shakespeare.  We  hear  nothing  of  any  previous 
love,  or  even  acquaintance,  between  Duke  Orsino 
and  Viola. 

ELLIOT.  All  we  have  been  told  is  antecedent,  I 
suppose :  Shakespeare  begins  after  the  storm,  and 
of  course  omits  what  occurred  during  the  voyage. 

BOURNE.  It  has  always  struck  me  as  a  defect  in 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  149 

Shakespeare's  highly  finished  play,  that  the  motive 
for  the  voyage  of  Viola  is  not  sufficiently  explained  : 
she  tells  the  captain  only  that  she  had  heard  her 
father  name  Duke  Orsino  5  but  in  the  first  instance 
she  seems  desirous  rather  to  be  taken  into  the  service 
of  Olivia  than  of  the  Duke  : 

"  O  that  I  serv'd  that  Lady, 
And  might  not  be  deliver'd  to  the  world, 
Till  I  had  made  mine  own  occasion  mellow, 
What  my  estate  is," 

are  her  words. 

MORTON.  She  did  not  then  perhaps  contemplate 
her  disguise.  While  serving  Olivia  she  might  have 
an  opportunity  of  seeing  the  JXike. 

BOURNE.  Dr.  Johnson  remarks  upon  this  part  of 
the  play :  "  Viola  seems  to  have  formed  a  very  deep 
design  with  very  little  premeditation :  she  is  thrown 
by  shipwreck  on  an  unknown  coast :  hears  that  the 
Prince  is  a  bachelor,  and  resolves  to  supplant  the 
lady  whom  he  courts."  This  objection  is  well- 
founded,  as  it  applies  to  readers  of  the  present 
day,  but  I  apprehend  it  is  not  so  well-founded  with 
reference  to  Shakespeare's  audiences.  It  is  an  ac- 
knowledged fact,  that  the  stories  he  availed  him- 
self of  were  popular,  the  incidents  were  generally 
well  known,  and  the  hearers  could  therefore  supply 
certain  omissions  from  their  memories.  When  Viola 
observes, 


150  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION 

"  I  have  heard  my  father  name  him : 

He  was  a  bachelor  then," 

she  tells  no  more,  in  order  not  to  disclose  her  design 
to  the  captain  of  the  ship,  but  intends  to  say  just 
enough  to  draw  from  him  the  facts,  that  he  yet  re- 
mained single,  and  that  he  was  engaged  in  courtship 
to  Olivia. 

ELLIOT.  If  Shakespeare  had  used  the  same  names 
for  his  characters  as  Rich  gives  them,  your  argument 
would  have  been  more  conclusive  5  as  it  is,  I  have 
some  doubts  upon  the  point:  but  let  us  proceed 
with  the  novel. 

BOURNE.  Silla  breaks  open  the  chest  that  had 
been  the  means  of  her  preservation  during  the 
storm,  and  finding  it  filled  with  men's  apparel,  she 
clothes  herself  in  one  of  the  suits  :  thus  attired,  she 
travels  to  Constantinople,  and  there  presents  herself 
to  the  Duke,  who,  "  perceiuing  him  to  be  a  proper 
smogue  young  man,  gaue  him  entertainment."  Silla 
at  this  time  took  upon  herself  her  brother's  name. 
We  now  come  to  Olivia,  or  the  lady  who  in  Rich's 
novel  answers  to  her :  she  is  called  Julina,  and  is 
represented  as  a  young  beautiful  widow,  whose 
husband  had  died  lately,  and  left  her  extremely  rich. 
Shakespeare  thought  it  would  have  a  better  effect  to 
describe  her  as  a  virgin  whose  brother  was  recently 
deceased. 

MOBTON.  It  has  been  objected  that  there  is  some 
impropriety  in  Olivia  having  her  house  filled  by  such 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  151 

persons  as  Sir  Toby  Belch  and  Sir  Andrew  Ague- 
cheek  :  the  impropriety  might  have  been  less  striking 
had  Shakespeare  followed  Rich's  story  in  this  respect 
more  exactly. 

BOURNE.  In  Shakespeare's  age  I  do  not  know 
that  such  a  circumstance  would  have  made  any 
very  material  difference.  Rich  thus  speaks  of  Ju- 
lina :  "  At  this  very  instaunt  there  was  remainyng 
in  the  Cittie  a  noble  Dame,  a  widdowe,  whose  hus- 
band was  but  lately  deceased,  one  of  the  noblest 
men  that  were  in  the  partes  of  Grecia,  who  left  his 
Lady  and  wife  large  possessions  and  great  liuings. 
This  ladyes  name  was  called  lulina,  who  besides  the 
aboundance  of  her  wealth  and  the  greatnesse  of  her 
reuenues,  had  likewise  the  soueraigntie  of  all  the 
Dames  of  Constantinople  for  her  beautie." 

MORTON.  Rich  does  not  scruple  to  be  guilty  of 
tautologies. 

BOURNE.  He  proceeds  in  these  terms :  "  To  this 
Lady  lulina  Apolonius  became  an  earnest  suter,  and 
according  to  the  manner  of  woers,  besides  faire 
wordes,  sorrowfull  sighes  and  piteous  countenaunces, 
there  must  be  sending  of  louing  letters,  Chaines, 
Braceletes,  Brouches,  Ringes,  Tablets,  Gemmes, 
luels  and  presents,  I  know  not  what.  So  my  Duke 
who  in  the  time  that  he  remained  in  the  He  of  Cypres, 
had  no  skill  at  all  in  the  arte  of  Loue,  although  it 
were  more  then  half  proffered  vnto  him,  was  now 
become  a  scholler  in  Loues  Schoole  and  had  alreadie 


152  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

learned  his  first  lesson  j  that  is,  to  speake  pittifully, 
to  looke  ruthfully,  to  promise  largely,  to  serue  dili- 
gently and  to  speake  carefully :  Now  he  was  learn- 
ing his  second  lesson,  that  is,  to  reward  liberally,  to 
giue  bountifully,  to  present  willingly  and  to  write 
louingly.  Thus  Apolonius  was  so  busied  in  his  new 
study  that,  I  warrant  you,  there  was  no  man  that 
could  chalenge  him  for  plaiyng  the  truant,  he  fol- 
lowed his  profession  with  so  good  will :  And  who 
must  be  the  messenger  to  carrie  the  tokens  and  loue 
letters  to  the  Lady  lulina  but  Siluio  his  man :  in 
him  the  Duke  reposed  his  onely  cofidence  to  goe 
between  him  and  his  Lady." 

ELLIOT.  Now  the  resemblance  begins  to  open 
upon  us. 

BOURNE.  And  it  will  grow  more  and  more  striking 
every  minute.  After  some  reflections  on  the  cruel 
situation  in  which  Silla,  alias  Silvio,  was  placed, 
Rich <goes  on  thus:  "lulina  now  hauing  many 
times  taken  the  gaze  of  this  yong  youth  Siluio,  per- 
ceiuing  him  to  bee  of  such  excellent  perfect  grace, 
was  so  intangeled  with  the  often  sight  of  this  sweete 
temptation  that  she  fell  into  as  great  a  liking  with 
the  man,  as  the  maister  was  with  her  selfe :  And  on 
a  time  Siluio  beyng  sent  from  his  maister  with  a 
message  to  the  Lady  lulina,  as  he  beganne  very 
earnestly  to  solicite  in  his  maisters  behalfe,  lulina 
interrupting  him  in  his  tale  saied:  Siluio  t  it  is 
enough  that  you  haue  saied  for  your  maister ;  from 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  153 

henceforth  either  speake  for  your  self  or  say  nothing 
at  all.  Silla,  abashed  to  iieare  these  words,  bega  in 
her  mind  to  accuse  the  blindnes  of  loue,  that  lulina, 
neglecting  the  good  of  so  noble  a  Duke,  wold  pre- 
ferre  her  loue  vnto  such  a  one  as  nature  it  selfe  had 
denied  to  recopence  her  liking." 

ELLIOT.  Ay,  now  we  enter  into  the  very  heart  of 
Shakespeare's  play:  Le  vrai  pent  quelquefois  rfetre 
pas  vraisemblable,  and  this  was  an  instance,  for  your 
assertion  did  not  at  first  seem  borne  out. 

BOURNE.  I  thought  you  were  at  first  a  little 
incredulous :  you  seemed  afraid  of  coming  under 
the  ironical  censure  of  our  friend  Rabelais,  "  Un 
komme  de  bons  sens  croit  toujours  ce  quon  luy 
diet  fy  qu'il  trouve  par  escript"  We  now  come  to 
Silla's  brother,  Silvio,  the  Sebastian  of  Shakespeare: 
Silvio  at  the  time  of  these  transactions  was  in  the 
interior  of  Africa,  and  was  not  like  Sebastian  wrecked 
in  the  same  ship  with  Viola.  Returning  to  Cyprus, 
he  vows  to  discover  Silla,  and  after  various  travels 
he  arrives  at  Constantinople,  "  where  as  he  was 
walking  in  an  euening  for  his  owne  recreation  on 
a  pleasante  grene  yarde  without  the  walles  of  the 
Cittie,  he  fortuned  to  meet  with  the  Lady  lulina, 
who  likewise  had  been  abroad  to  take  the  aire$ 
and  as  she  sodainly  cast  her  eyes  vpon  Siluio, 
thinking  him  to  be  her  olde  acquaintance,  by  reason 
they  were  so  like  one  another,  as  you  have  heard 
before,  said  vnto  him,  sir,  Siluio t  if  your  hast  be  not 
the  greater,  I  pray  you  let  me  haue  a  little  talke  with 


154  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

you,  seeing  I  haue  so  luckily  met  you  in  this  place." 
At  first  the  young  man  appears  somewhat  astonished 
and  shy,  but  noting  the  lady's  beauty,  he  affects  to 
have  forgotten  himself,  and  to  be  what  Julina  sup- 
poses him.  Julina,  as  a  widow,  may  be  excused 
for  being  something  bolder  than  a  virgin,  and  she 
actually  invites  Silvio  not  only  to  her  house,  but  to 
her  bed,  and  he  consents  without  reluctance. 

MORTON.  Something  more  must  be  said  about  the 
resemblance  of  the  brother  and  sister,  to  account  for 
the  mistake,  than  what  you  read  just  now:  you 
probably  omitted  to  mention  it. 

BOURNE.  I  forgot  it  in  the  proper  place ;  for  it  is 
stated  that  Silvio  loved  his  sister  Silla  "  as  dearly  as 
his  own  life,  and  the  rather  for  that  as  she  was  his 
naturall  sister  both  by  the  Father  and  Mother,  so  the 
one  of  them  was  so  like  the  other  in  countenance 
and  fauour,  that  there  was  no  man  able  to  descerne 
the  one  from  the  other  by  their  faces." 

ELLIOT.  That  was  a  very  important  circumstance. 
If  Shakespeare  were  wrong  in  making  Olivia  not  a 
widow,  he  was  right  in  not  carrying  her  love  to 
Cesario  or  to  the  man  she  fancied  was  he,  to  such  an 
extreme  as  Rich  represents  it. 

BOURNE.  Of  course;  but  Rich,  as  you  will  find, 
has  no  scruple  of  that  sort,  for  Julina  afterwards 
proves  to  be  in  the  family  way : — but  we  shall  see 
more  of  that  presently.  Duke  Apolonius  is  informed 
by  his  domestics,  that  the  widow  preferred  his  ser- 
vant to  himself,  and  that  she  had  given  most  un- 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  155 

equivocal  proofs  of  it :  he  consequently  throws  the 
unfortunate  Silla  into  a  dungeon,  and  refuses  to 
listen  to  her  entreaties.  Julina,  in  the  mean  time, 
finding  the  consequences  of  her  intercourse  with  the 
brother  but  too  apparent,  is  in  a  state  of  great  alarm, 
"  fearing  to  become  banckrout  of  her  honour,"  and 
appealing  to  Apolonius,  Silla  is  brought  from  her 
prison  into  their  presence :  she  requires  Julina  to 
contradict  the  charge  that  she,  Silla,  had  made  love 
to  her,  Julina,  for  herself  instead  of  her  master. 
Julina,  on  the  other  hand,  still  mistaking  the  sister 
for  the  brother,  calls  upon  Silla  first  to  admit  their 
mutual  love,  and  that  failing,  to  avow  the  criminal 
intercourse  that  had  passed  between  them.  The 
speeches  in  this  interview  run  to  a  considerable 
length,  Julina  repeating  to  Silla  the  vows  her  brother 
Silvio  had,  in  fact,  made  of  love  and  constancy,  and 
asserting  that  she  had  received  him  "  for  her  loyal 
husband."  The  duke  is  convinced  that  his  page  has 
wronged  the  lady  most  grossly,  and  drawing  his 
rapier,  insists  that  Silla  shall  make  all  possible 
amends.  This  forms  a  very  interesting  scene,  and 
our  compassion  is  much  divided  between  the  duke, 
who  saw  the  lady  of  his  love  thus  degraded,  Julina, 
who  complains  of  the  ingratitude  of  one  whom  she 
so  dearly  valued,  and  Silla,  who  is  the  innocent 
victim  of  mistake  and  accident. 

ELLIOT.  Shakespeare  has  made  no  use  of  it,  and 
could  not  in  the  structure  of  his  play;  but  he  has 
turned  the  resemblance  between  the  brother  and  sister 


156  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

to  a  comic  account,  if  I  may  so  say,  and  has  made  it 
the  source  of  several  most  ludicrous  scenes.  Are 
any  of  these  touched  upon  or  related  in  Rich's 
story  ? 

BOURNE.  They  are  not :  the  irresistibly  comic  part 
of  Twelfth  Night  appears  to  be  wholly  Shakespeare's. 
In  Rich's  novel  there  is  not  any  ludicrous  character, 
or,  indeed,  any  person  whose  name  has  not  been 
already  mentioned.  You  may  wish  to  hear  a  few 
sentences  from  the  reply  of  Silla  to  Julina's  accusa- 
tion before  the  duke.  "  Ah,  Madame  lulina,  I 
desire  no  other  testimonie,  then  your  owne  honestie 
and  vertue,  thinking  that  you  wil  not  so  much  blemish 
the  brightnesse  of  your  honour,  knowing  that  a  wo- 
man is,  or  should  be,  the  Image  of  curtesie,  con- 
tinencie  and  shamefastnesse,  from  the  which  so  soone 
as  she  stoopeth,  and  leaueth  the  office  of  her  duetie 
and  modesty,  besides  the  degradation  of  her  honour  she 
thrusteth  her  selfe  into  the  pit  of  perpetuall  infamy : 
and  as  I  cannot  think  you  would  so  forget  your  selfe, 
by  the  refusal  of  a  noble  Duke  to  dimme  the  light  of 
your  renowne  and  glorie,  which  hetherto  you  haue 
maintained  amongest  the  best  and  noblest  Ladies, 
by  such  a  one  as  I  knowe  my  selfe  to  be,  too  farre 
vnworthie  your  degree  and  calling,  so  most  humbly 
I  beseech  you  to  confesse  a  troth,  whereto  tendeth 
those  vowes  and  promises  you  speake  of,  which 
speeches  bee  so  obscure  vnto  me,  as  I  know  not  for 
my  life  how  I  might  vnderstand  them." 

MORTON.  The  sentence  of  the  duke,  commanding 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  157 

Silla  to  make  amends,  is,  of  course,  delivered  after 
what  you  have  read :  how  does  Silla  receive  it  ? 

BOURNE.  The  narrative  is  continued  in  the  follow- 
ing terms :  "  Siluio  hauing  heard  this  sharpe  seu- 
tence  fell  downe  on  his  knees  before  the  Duke  crau- 
ing  for  mercie,  desiring  that  he  might  be  suffered  to 
speake  with  the  Lady  lulina  apart,  promising  to 
satisfie  her  according  to  her  owne  contentation — Well 
(quoth  the  Duke)  I  take  thy  worde,  and  therewithall 
I  aduise  thee  that  thou  performe  thy  promise,  or 
otherwise,  I  protest  before  God,  I  will  make  thee 
such  an  example  to  the  world  that  all  traitours  shall 
tremble  for  feare  how  they  doe  seeke  the  dishonour- 
ing of  Ladies— But  now  lulina  had  conceiued  so 
great  griefe  against  Siluio,  that  there  was  much  adoe 
to  persuade  her  to  talk  with  him ;  but  remembring 
her  owne  case,  desirous  to  heare  what  excuse  he 
could  make,  in  the  end  she  agreed,  and  being  brought 
into  a  place  seuerally  by  themselues,  Siluio  began 
with  a  piteous  face  to  say  as  followeth. — I  know  not, 
Madam,  of  whom  I  might  make  complaint,  whether 
of  you  or  of  my  selfe,  which  hath  conducted  and 
brought  vs  both  into  so  great  aduersitie.  I  see 
that  you  receiue  great  wrong,  and  I  am  condemned 
against  all  right  j  you  in  perill  to  abide  the  bruite 
of  spightfull  tongues,  and  I  in  danger  to  loose  the 
thing  that  I  most  desire:  and  although  I  could 
alledge  many  reasons  to  proue  my  sayings  true,  yet 
I  referre  my  selfe  to  the  experience  and  bountie  of 
your  minde.  And  here  with  all  loosing  his  garments 


158  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

downe  to  his  stomacke  and  shewed  lulina  his  breasts 
and  prety  teates  surmounting  farre  the  whitnesse  of 
snow  it  selfe,  saying:  Loe,  Madam,  beholde  here 
the  party  whom  you  haue  chalenged  to  be  the  father 
of  your  childe !  See  I  am  a  woman,  the  daughter  of 
a  noble  Duke,  who  onely  for  the  loue  of  him,  whom 
you  so  lightly  haue  shaken  of,  haue  forsaken  my 
father,  abandoned  my  countrie,  and  in  manner,  as 
you  see,  am  become  a  seruing  man,  satisfying  my- 
selfe  but  with  the  onely  sight  of  my  Apolonius:  and 
now,  Madam,  if  my  passion  were  not  vehement  and 
my  tormentes  without  comparison,  I  would  wish 
that  my  fained  griefes  might  be  laughed  to  scorne, 
and  my  dissembled  paines  to  bee  rewarded  with 
floutes.  But  my  loue  beeing  pure,  my  trauaile  con- 
tinuall,  and  my  griefes  endlesse,  I  trust,  Madam, 
you  will  not  onely  excuse  me  of  crime,  but  also 
pitty  my  distresse,  the  which  I  protest  I  would  stil 
haue  kept  secret  if  my  fortune  would  so  haue  per- 
mitted." 

ELLIOT.  All  this  could  but  increase  the  miser- 
able perplexity  of  poor  Julina.  Such  an  eclaircisse- 
ment  could  scarcely  take  place  on  the  stage,  and  this 
might  be  one  reason  why  Shakespeare  omitted  the 
incident. 

BOURNE.  Besides,  it  would  not  perhaps  have  done, 
even  at  that  day,  to  have  brought  on  the  stage  a  lady 
openly  making  such  a  complaint  as  that  of  Julina, 
founded  upon  her  own  confession  of  criminality. 

MORTON.  I  have  not  patience  just  now  to  argue 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  159 

any  such  point,  though  in  Beaumont  and  Fletcher's 
"  Maids  Tragedy,"  there  is  even  a  stranger  inter- 
view :  let  it  suffice,  that  Shakespeare  has  so  far  de- 
viated from  his  original.  What  becomes  of  the  un- 
happy widow  ? 

BOURNE.  Rich  says,  with  much  simplicity,  she 
"  did  now  thinke  her  selfe  to  be  in  a  worse  case 
then  euer  she  was  before,  for  now  she  knew  not 
whom  to  challenge  to  be  the  father  of  her  child  j 
wherefore  when  she  had  told  the  Duke  the  verye 
certainty  of  the  discourse  which  Siluio  had  made 
vnto  her,  shee  departed  to  her  owne  house  with  such 
griefe  and  sorrowe,  that  she  purposed  neuer  to  come 
out  of  her  owne  dores  again  aliue,  to  be  a  wonder 
and  mocking  stocke  to  the  world." 

ELLIOT.  What  says  the  duke  to  Silvio,  or  rather 
to  Silla,  now  he  learns  her  disguise  and  the  object  of 
it  ?  is  it  any  thing  like 

"  And  since  you  call'd  me  master  for  so  long, 
Here  is  my  hand  j  you  shall  from  this  time  be 
Your  master's  mistress  ?" 

BOURNE.  The  same  in  effect,  but  he  is  a  little 
more  high-flown  in  his  phrases,  and  rapturous  in  his 
love :  "  Oh  the  branche  of  al  vertue  (he  exclaims) 
and  the  flowre  of  courtesie  it  selfe,  pardon  me  I 
beseech  you  of  all  such  discourtesies  as  I  ignorantly 
committed  towards  you !  Desiring  you  that  without 
farther  memorie  of  auncient  griefes  you  will  accept 


160  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

of  me,  who  is  more  ioyfull  and  better  contented  with 
your  presence  then  if  the  whole  world  were  at 
my  commaundement."  Their  happy  nuptials  are 
accordingly  celebrated  at  Constantinople  with  the 
utmost  pomp  and  solemnity. 

MORTON.  But  what  had  become  of  the  brother,  the 
real  Silvio,  all  this  time?  These  events  must  have 
made  much  noise  in  Constantinople,  and  one  would 
think  he  must  have  heard  of  them. 

BOURNE.  Shakespeare  manages  this  part  of  the 
story  differently.  Sebastian  only  arrives  once  in 
Illyria,  and  that,  as  it  were,  by  accident,  while  in 
order  to  confirm  the  claim  of  Olivia  upon  Sebastian, 
he  introduces  a  contract  of  marriage  before  a  priest. 
Now  Rich,  after  Silvio's  first  visit  to  Constantinople, 
and  after  he  had  left  Julina  in  what  family  men  call 
*'•  a  hopefull  condition,"  makes  him  pursue  his  travels 
in  search  of  his  lost  sister  into  the  interior  of  Greece, 
where  the  report  of  these  strange  occurrences  reaches 
him.  Returning  to  Constantinople,  he  was  received 
by  his  sister  and  the  duke  with  the  utmost  joy.  In 
two  or  three  days,  Apolonius  informed  him  of  what 
had  passed  regarding  the  Lady  Julina;  and  Silvio, 
well  knowing  how  the  error  had  arisen,  "was  stricken 
with  great  remorse  to  make  Julina  amends,  vnder- 
standing  her  to  be  a  noble  lady,"  and  "  left  der 
famed  to  the  world  through  his  default."  He  ac- 
cordingly "  bewrayed  the  whole  circumstances"  to 
Apolonius,  who  breaks  the  matter  to  the  widow, 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  1GI 

and  introduces  the  repentant  lover  to  her  as  "  the 
sonne  and  heyre  of  a  noble  Duke,  worthy  of  her 
estate  and  dignity."  The  novel  is  wound  up  in  the 
following  manner :  "  lulina  seeing  Siluio  in  place  did 
know  very  well  that  he  was  the  father  of  her  childe, 
and  was  so  rauished  with  ioy,  that  she  knew  not 
whether  she  were  awake  or  in  some  dreame.  Siluio 
imbracing  her  in  his  armes,  crauing  forgiuenesse  of 
all  that  was  past,  concluded  with  her  the  marriage 
day,  which  was  presently  accomplished  with  great 
ioy  and  contentation  to  all  parties.  And  then  Siluio 
hauing  attained  a  noble  wife,  and  Silla  his  sister  her 
desired  husband,  they  passed  the  residue  of  their 
daies  with  such  delight  as  those  that  haue  accom- 
plished the  perfection  of  their  felicities." 

ELLIOT.  And  a  very  pleasant  story  it  is,  and  judg- 
ing from  such  parts  as  you  have  read,  pleasantly 
told. 

BOURNE.  The  narrative  is  conducted  with  regu- 
larity and  clearness,  and  the  language  generally  easy 
and  fluent,  though  disfigured  now  and  then  by  need- 
less repetitions. 

MORTON.  It  is  indisputable  that  Shakespeare  was 
indebted  to  it  for  his  plot  of  Twelfth  Night. 

BOURNE.  Though  he  has  not  followed  it  very 
closely :  indeed,  as  we  have  seen,  he  was  in  a  manner 
obliged  to  vary  it,  in  order  to  render  it  dramatic  ;  he 
has  not  made  his  incidents  quite  so  consequential 
upon  each  other  as  Rich,  and  with  great  art  he  has 

VOL.   II.  M 


162  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

contrived  to  arrive  at  the  denouement  of  both  plots, 
at  the  same  time.  This  was  not  at  all  necessary  in 
the  narrative,  and,  in  my  opinion,  as  far  as  veri- 
similitude is  concerned,  it  was  more  natural  to  at- 
tribute the  arrival  of  Silvio  at  Constantinople  to 
design,  in  the  course  of  his  search  for  his  sister,  than 
to  mere  accident,  which  seems  to  be  the  case  with 
Sebastian. 

MORTON.  Had  Shakespeare  adopted  this  expedient, 
it  would  have  too  much  resembled  an  incident  in  a 
former  play  of  his,  I  mean  "  The  Comedy  of  Errors," 
where  Antipholis  of  Syracuse  travels  in  search  of  his 
twin  brother. 

ELLIOT.  True,  and  as  it  was,  Shakespeare  could 
not  avoid  some  similarity  in  the  incidents,  though  he 
contrived  to  introduce  every  dissimilarity  in  the  si- 
tuations. Have  either  of  the  other  seven  histories  or 
discourses  in  Rich's  book  any  connexion  with  Shake- 
speare's plays  ? 

BOURNE.  No  5  excepting  that  in  the  sixth  novel 
there  is  an  incident  of  the  effects  of  a  sleeping  draught 
upon  a  young  lady  that  reminds  us  of  Romeo  and 
Julietj  and  the  first  scene  of  the  same  tragedy  is 
brought  to  our  memories  in  another  story,  by  the 
employment  of  the  familiar  proverb  "  o'  my  word 
we'll  not  carry  coals,"  in  the  same  way  as  Shakespeare 
uses  it. 

MORTON.  All  which  confirms  the  belief,  that 
"  Rich  his  Farewel  to  Military  profession"  was  one 
of  the  books  in  Shakespeare's  library,  and  that  he 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  163 

was  well  acquainted  with  its  contents.  You  said 
that  Rich  was  a  poet,  but  the  "  discourse"  we  have 
just  finished  is  wholly  prose:  can  you  give  us  a 
specimen  of  his  verse  ? 

BOURNE.  I  can,  and  you  will  not  read  it  with  the 
less  interest,  because  it  is  found  in  the  same  curious 
volume,  where  several  other  pieces  of  poetry  are 
interspersed.  What  I  am  about  to  read  is  from  the 
first  novel,  relating  the  adventures  of  a  banished 
duke,  called  "  Sappho  Duke  of  Mantona." 

ELLIOT.  Shakespeare  is  charged  by  the  com- 
mentators with  the  heinous  offence  of  confounding 
the  sex  which  ought  to  belong  to  the  name  of 
Baptista.  Rich  seems  to  have  been  guilty  of  the 
same  error  in  the  name  of  Sappho. 

BOURNE.  So  it  appears,  but  it  may  be  easily  for- 
given. His  lines  are  these : 

"  No  shame,  I  trust,  to  cease  from  former  ill, 
Nor  to  revert  the  lewdnesse  of  the  minde, 

Which  hath  bin  trainde,  and  so  misled  by  will, 
To  breake  the  bounds  which  reason  had  assignde : 

I  now  forsake  the  former  time  I  spent, 
And  sorie  am  for  that  I  once  miswent. 

"  But  blinde  forecast  was  he  that  made  me  swarue, 

Affection  fond  was  lurer  of  my  lust ; 
My  fancie  fixt  desire  did  make  me  seme, 

Vaine  hope  was  he  that  trained  all  my  trust : 

M2 


164  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

Good  liking  then  so  daseled  hard  my  sight, 

And  dimnde  mine  eies,  that  reason  gaue  no  light. 

"  O  sugred  sweet  that  trainde  me  to  this  trap ! 

I  saw  the  bait  where  hooke  lay  hidden  fast  j 
I  well  perceiud  the  drift  of  my  mishap  j 

I  knew  the  bit  would  breed  my  bane  at  last : 
But  what  for  this,  for  sweete  I  swallowed  all, 

Whose  tast  I  find  more  bitter  now  than  Gall. 

"  But  loe  the  fruites  that  grewe  by  fond  desire ! 

I  seeke  to  shun  that  pleased  best  my  minde  j 
I  sterue  for  cold,  yet  faine  would  quench  the  fire, 

And  glad  to  loose  that  fairest  I  would  finde. 
In  one  self  thing  I  find  both  bane  and  blisse  j 

But  this  is  straunge,  I  like  no  life  but  this." 

The  VIQY&  fairest,  in  the  last  line  but  two,  is  probably 
a  misprint  forfainest. 

ELLIOT.  Rich  probably  is  to  be  placed  in  the  class 
of  smooth  versifiers,  but,  according  to  this  specimen, 
he  has  no  claim  to  any  rank  among  original  poets. 

BOURNE.  You  have  correctly  ascertained  and  stated 
his  merits  in  a  sentence.  This  volume  has  been  long 
enough  open,  we  may  now  close  it. 

MORTON.  In  alluding  to  a  proverb  used  by  Rich, 
you  just  now  mentioned  Romeo  and  Juliet  j  the 
original  of  it  is  in  Painter's  "  Palace  of  Pleasure." 

BOURNE.  That  was  probably  the  immediate  ori- 
ginal, but  there  were  other  versions  of  the  Italian 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  165 

tale  :  you  will  find  it  on  fo.  179,  b.  of  "  The  second 
Tome  of  the  Palace  of  Pleasure,"  printed  by  Thomas 
Marshe.  Did  you  ever  hear  of  a  separate  printed 
poem  by  William  Painter  ;  I  mean  unconnected  with 
"  the  Palace  of  Pleasure?" 

MORTON.  Certainly  never. 

BOURNE.  Yet  such  a  poem,  or  rather  collection  of 
poems,  was  shown  me  not  long  since. 

MORTON.  Indeed.  Was  it  not  a  most  valuable 
relic  ?  The  editor  of  the  new  edition  of  "  the  Palace 
of  Pleasure"  mentions  nothing  about  it. 

BOURNE.  It  is  a  relic  of  considerable  rarity,  but 
you  mistake  if  you  suppose  it  was  by  William  Painter, 
the  compiler  and  translator  of  the  Palace  of  Pleasure, 
although  by  a  person  of  the  same  names.  However, 
no  other  copy  is  known  of  it,  and  as  it  was  without 
beginning  or  end,  the  date  cannot  precisely  be  ascer- 
tained :  the  dedication  to  Sir  Paul  Pinder,  ambassador 
at  Constantinople,  signed  William  Painter,  is,  how- 
ever, still  preserved :  Sir  Paul  died  before  the-  year 
1650  j  the  type,  as  I  should  guess,  was  after  1630. 

MORTON.  Perhaps  it  was  by  some  descendant: 
what  is  the  subject?  Had  it  any  merit? 

BOURNE.  None  that  I  could  discover  j  but  the 
running-title 

ELLIOT.  Here  is  a  poem,  the  date  of  which  you 
do  not  know,  the  author  of  which  you  do  not  knowj 
which  has  neither  beginning  nor  end,  and  which  is 
actually  worth  nothing,  and  yet  we  are  to  waste  our 


166  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

time  upon  it.  Have  we  not  already  heard  too  much 
about  it? 

BOURNE.  I  apprehend  not.  You  cannot  wonder 
that  some  curiosity  should  be  felt  about  the  title. 

ELLIOT.  Why,  when  the  body  of  the  work  is  not 
worth  reading,  what  signifies  the  title  ?  Yet  I  am 
not  surprised  j  Quod  crebro  vidit  non  miratur,  etiam 
si  curjiat,  nescit. 

BOURNE.  But  I  contend  that  the  name  of  the 
poem  is  curious  and  worth  knowing:  the  title- 
page  is  wanting,  but  the  running- title  is  "  Chaucer 
painted :"  why  it  is  so  called  I  cannot  guess,  as  in 
the  cursory  view  I  had  of  the  book  I  saw  nothing 
that  had  any  relation  to  Chaucer :  the  greater  por- 
tion was  proverbs  strung  together  in  four-line 
stanzas.  Towards  the  end  was  a  poem  lamenting 
the  degeneracy  of  shepherds,  and  an  anagram  on 
the  mother  of  the  author,  Jone  Clark. 

MORTON.  The  word  painted  in  the  running- title,  I 
dare  say,  had  some  connexion  with  the  author's 
name.  Did  you  extract  any  part  of  it  ? 

BOURNE.  I  did  not. 

ELLIOT.  Then  we  are  more  fortunate  than  usual. 

MORTON.  Still  uncis  naribus  indulgis,  but  not  at 
our  expense. 

BOURNE.  He  will  not  have  that  gratification  long, 
for  about  William  Painter  I  have  nothing  more  to 
say. 

ELLIOT.  Why,  seriously,  if  I  did  not  keep  some 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  167 

kind  of  check  upon  you,  there  is  no  knowing  what 
paltry  matters  you  two  might  not  wander  into. 
Let  us  dwell  upon  something  worth  attention,  and  I 
will  not  complain.  I  never  dreamt  of  objecting  to 
the  detail  you  entered  into  of  Rich's  novel,  because 
that  was  not  only  a  new  but  a  very  interesting  sub- 
ject, and  if  you  had  continued  the  same  course,  and 
given  us  some  account  of  other  histories  of  which 
Shakespeare  availed  himself,  it  would  have  been 
adding  importantly  to  our  stock  of  knowledge. 

BOURNE.  I  would  have  done  so  willingly  had  I 
been  sufficiently  prepared  for  the  purpose  j  but  some 
of  the  stories  which  Shakespeare  employed  are 
really  so  rare,  and  are  consequently  so' difficult  to  be 
procured,  that  before  I  can  enter  into  the  question 
satisfactorily,  I  must  lay  all  my  friends  under  con- 
tribution for  books. 

MORTON.  I  have  seen  Lodge's  "  Rosalind,"  the 
"  worthless  original"  (as  Mr.  Steevens  is  pleased  to 
call  it)  of  "  As  you  Like  it"  in  your  collection. 

ELLIOT.  And  Robt.  Greene's  "  Dorastus  &  Faw- 
nia,"  on  which  the  "  Winter's  Tale"  is  founded,  you 
told  me  you  had. 

MORTON.  Besides,  "  the  Palace  of  Pleasure," 
which  stands  conspicuous  on  your  shelves,  and  these 
three,  with  Sir  Thomas  North's  translation  of  Plu- 
tarch's Lives,  will  go  a  good  way  in,  at  least., 
illustrating  a  subject  that,  as  far  as  I  know,  has  not 
yet  been  by  any  means  adequately  investigated. 


168  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  You  mistake  when  you  say  that  you 
have  seen  Lodge's  "  Rosalind "  among  my  books : 
you  have  seen  "  Euphues  Golden  Legacie :  Found 
after  his  death  in  his  Cell  at  Silexedra.  Bequeathed 
to  Philautus  Sonnes,  nursed  vp  with  their  Father  in 
England/'  1623,  and  it  is  very  true  that  this  work, 
excepting  the  title  and  the  different  orthography  of 
some  of  the  words,  is  the  same  as  Lodge's  "  Rosa- 
lind," of  1590,  but  I  could  wish,  were  it  in  my  power, 
to  show  you,  and  to  read  from,  the  original  edition. 

ELLIOT.  What  trifles  you  convert  into  matters  of 
consequence :  this  is  not  only  nugis  addere  pondus, 
but  giving  the  nugte  themselves  an  artificial  weight. 
We  shall  be  afale  to  judge  of  the  similarity  between 
Shakespeare's  play  and  Lodge's  novel  as  well  by  an 
edition  of  yesterday,  if  it  be  correctly  reprinted,  as 
by  one  published  in  the  life-time  of  the  author. 

BOURNE.  Certainly,  but  independent  of  the  satis- 
faction of  comparing  Shakespeare's  play  with  an 
original  edition,  such  as  he  probably  employed,  there 
is  surely  some  pleasure  in  looking  at  literary  curiosi- 
ties, like  the  first  edition  of  "  Rosalynde,"  for  so  the 
author  spelt  it,  in  1590,  though  why  that  graceful 
name  was  afterwards  erased  from  the  title,  and  all 
the  rest  left,  it  is  impossible  for  us  to  ascertain. 

ELLIOT.  Nor  is  it  worth  ascertaining  if  we  had  all 
the  means  before  us. 

MORTON.  I  do  not  know  that,  provided  it  had  any 
thing  to  do  with  Spenser's  Rosalind,  or  with  Shake- 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  169 

speare's  adoption  of  the  name  in  his  "  As  you  Like 
it,"  or  any  other  circumstance  of  that  kind. 

BOURNE.  Mr.  Singer,  in  a  late  reprint  (which,  by 
the  by,  might  have  been  more  correct)  has  extracted 
all  the  poetry  from  Lodge's  "  Rosalynde,"  and,  as 
Shakespeare  was  much  less  indebted  to  the  verse 
than  to  the  prose,  and,  as  no  specimens  have  been 
given  from  the  last,  I  will  read  two  or  three  passages 
which  will  enable  you  to  form  an  opinion  of  Lodge's 
style,  and  of  the  manner  in  which  he  treats  a  story, 
of  which  there  is  every  reason  to  believe  that  he  was 
the  original  inventor. 

ELLIOT.  This  is  just  as  it  ought  to  be ;  now  we 
are  coming  to  the  point : — Lodge  was  unquestionably 
a  man  of  considerable  talent  as  a  poet,  if  we  looked 
only  at  the  pieces  inserted  in  his  "  Fig  for  Mo- 
mus."  What  you  are  about  to  extract  from  then,  is 
his  "  Rosalynde,"  republished  in  1 623  under  the  title 
of  "  Euphues  Golden  Legacy." 

BOURNE.  It  is:  he  took  the  name  of  Euphues 
from  John  Lilly,  who  published  his  well-known 
"  Euphues,  the  Anatomic  of  Wit,"  at  least  as  early 
as  158O,  and  in  the  prefatory  matter  to  which  I  find 
that  he  was  rusticated  from  Oxford.  I  just  notice 
this  circumstance,  because  his  biographers  seem  to 
have  overlooked  it. 

MORTON.  That  is  curious :  what  does  he  say  of 
himself? 

BOURNE.  It  is  in  an  address  "  To  my  good  Friends, 


170  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

the  Gentlemen  Schollers  of  Oxford :"  he  observes, 
"  Yet  may  I  of  all  the  rest  most  condemne  Oxford 
of  vnkindnesse,  of  vice  I  cannot,  \vho  seemed  to 
weane  me  before  shee  brought  me  forth  and  to  giue 
me  bones  to  gnaw,  before  I  could  get  the  teat  to 
suck.  Wherein  she  played  the  nice  mother,  in 
sending  me  into  the  country  to  nurse,  where  I  tyred 
at  a  dry  breast  three  yeares,  and  was  at  last  enforced 
to  weane  my  selfe."  He  accordingly  went  to  Cam- 
bridge. One  of  Robert  Greene's  tracts  is  called 
"  Euphues  Censure  to  Philantus,"  so  that  it  should 
seem  that  Lilly's  example  had  rendered  those  names 
very  popular. 

ELLIOT.  Do  not  let  us  wander  unnecessarily.  I 
am  anxious  to  hear  something  from  Lodge's  novel. 

BOURNE.  Your  anxiety  shall  be  relieved.  You 
will  observe,  in  the  first  place,  that  Shakespeare's 
Orlando  is  here  called  Rosader,  and  his  severe  elder 
brother  Saladine :  the  names  of  Rosalind  and  Aliena 
(the  assumed  name  of  Alinda)  Shakespeare  adopts. 
The  following  is  the  description  of  the  heroine : 
"  As  euery  mans  eye  had  his  seurall  suruey,  and 
fancie  was  partiall  in  their  lookes,  yet  all  in  generall 
applauded  the  admirable  riches  that  Nature  bestowed 
on  the  face  of  Rosalind;  for  vpon  her  cheekes  there 
seemed  a  battell  betweene  the  Graces,  who  should 
bestow  most  fauours  to  make  her  excellent.  The 
blush  that  gloried  Luna  when  she  kist  the  Shepheard 
of  the  hills  of  Latmos,  was  not  tainted  with  such  a 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  1?1 

pleasant  dye  as  the  vermilion  florish  on  the  siluer 
hue  of  Rosalinds  countenance  :  her  eyes  were  like 
those  Lampes  that  make  the  wealthie  couert  for  the 
heauens  more  glorious,  sparkling  fauour  and  dis- 
daine,  curteous  and  yet  coy,  as  if  in  them  Venus  had 
placed  al  her  amorets,  and  Diana  all  her  chastitie. 
The  trammels  of  her  haire,  folded  in  a  caule  of  gold, 
so  farre  surpast  the  burnisht  glister  of  mettall,  as 
the  Sunne  doth  the  meanest  Starre  in  brightnesse : 
the  tresses  that  folds  in  the  brows  of  Apollo,  were 
not  halfe  so  rich  to  the  sight,  for  in  her  haires  it 
seemed  loue  had  laid  himselfe  in  ambush,  to  entrap 
the  proudest  eye  that  durst  gaze  vpon  their  excel- 
lence :  what  should  I  need  to  decipher  her  particular 
beauties,  when  by  the  censure  of  all,  she  was  the 
paragon  of  all  earthly  perfection." 

MORTON.  That  puts  one  a  little  in  mind  of  James 
Shirley's  excellent  ridicule  of  overstrained  hyper- 
bolical compliments,  and  unnatural  resemblances,  in 
his  play  of  "  The  Sisters"  (1652),  where  he  makes 
Angelina  reprove  a  pedantic  Scholar,  who  had 
smeared  her  beauty  with  all  sorts  of  artificial  co- 
lours :  she  says, 


"  I  am 


A  stranger  to  you,  Sir,  and  to  your  language ; 
These  words  have  no  relation  to  me. 
I  pity  men  of  your  high  fancy,  should 
Dishonour  their  own  names  by  forming  such 


172  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

Prodigious  shapes  of  beauty  in  our  sex. 

If  I  were  really  what  you  would  commend, 

Mankind  would  fly  me.     Get  a  painter,  Sir, 

And  when  he  has  wrought  a  woman  by  your  fancy, 

See  if  you  know  her  again.     Were  it  not  fine 

If  you  should  see  your  mistress  without  haire, 

Drest  only  with  those  glittering  beams  you  talk  of? 

Two  suns  instead  of  eyes,  and  they  not  melt 

The  forehead  made  of  snow  ?     No  cheeks,  but  two 

Roses  inoculated  on  a  lily ; 

Between,  a  pendant  alabaster  nose  : 

Her  lips  cut  out  of  corall,  and  no  teeth 

But  strings  of  pearl :  her  tongue  a  nightingales  !— 

Would  not  this  strange  chimaera  fright  yourself?" 

ELLIOT.  Your  quotation  is  in  point,  though  rather 
long.  You  might  have  found  a  shorter  one,  and  quite 
as  apposite,  I  think,  in  the  very  play  of  Shakespeare 
under  consideration.  The  ridicule  of  Shirley  is  ex- 
ceedingly well  expressed,  as  might  indeed  be  ex- 
pected from  his  pen,  as  far  as  I  have  heard  any  thing 
about  him. 

BOURNE.  It  is  to  be  regretted  that  Mr.  Gifford's 
edition  of  his  plays  is  so  long  postponed.  Shirley, 
as  has  been  remarked,  was  the  last  of  the  old 
English  school  of  dramatists,  and  both  his  Tragedies 
and  Comedies  will  bear  comparison  with  those  of 
any  of  Shakespeare's  contemporaries.  But  to  pro- 
ceed with  Lodge :  the  following  will  strongly  re- 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  173 

mind  you  of  Shakespeare.  It  is  before  Rosalind  and 
her  friend  Alinda,  afterwards  called  Aliena,  make 
their  escape  to  the  forest  of  Arden :  "  At  this  Rosalind 
began  to  comfort  her,  and  after  shee  had  wept  a  few 
kinde  teares,  in  the  bosome  of  her  Alinda,  shee  gaue 
her  hearty  thankes,  and  then  they  sate  them  downe 
to  consult  how  they  should  trauell.  Alinda  grieued 
at  nothing  but  that  they  might  haue  no  man  in  their 
company,  saying :  it  would  bee  their  greatest  pre- 
iudice,  in  that  two  women  went  wandring  about 
without  either  guide  or  attendant.  Tush  (quoth 
Rosalind )  art  thou  a  woman  and  hast  not  a  sodaine 
shift  to  preuent  a  misfortune  r  I  (thou  seest)  am  of  a 
tall  stature,  and  would  very  well  become  the  person 
and  apparell  of  Page,  thou  shalt  be  my  Mistris,  and 
I  will  play  the  man  so  properly,  that  (trust  mee)  in 
what  company  soeuer  I  come,  I  will  not  be  dis- 
couered  :  I  will  buy  mee  a  sute,  and  haue  a  Rapier 
very  handsomely  at  my  side,  and  if  any  knaue  offer 
wrong,  your  Page  will  shew  him  the  point  of  his 
weapon.  At  this  Alinda  smiled,  and  vpon  this  they 
agreed,  and  presently  gathered  vp  all  their  jewels, 
which  they  trussed  vp  in  a  casket,  and  Rosalind  in 
all  haste  prouided  her  of  robes,  and  Alinda  being 
called  Aliena,  and  Rosalind,  Ganimede." 

ELLIOT.  The  sentence  "  I  will  buy  me  a  suit,  and 
have  a  rapier  very  handsomely  at  my  side,"  brings 
to  memory  Shakespeare's  line,  "  We'll  have  a 
swashing  and  a  martial  outside ;"  but  a  preceding 


174  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

sentiment  of  Lodge,  on  the  quickness  of  woman's 
wit  and  her  readiness  on  sudden  emergencies,  is 
copied  from  Ariosto,  c.  xxvii. 

Molti  constgli  delle  donne  sono 
Meglio  impromso,  che  a  pensarm  usciti; 
Che  questo  especiale,  e proprio  dono 
Tra  tanti  e  tanti  lor  dal  del  largiti — 

and  then  he  goes  on  to  contrast  this  excellence 
with  the  slowness  and  heaviness  of  men  in  similar 
situations. 

BOURNE.  On  the  whole,  Ariosto  has  done  the 
female  sex  more  than  justice,  though  you  remember 
some  parts  of  his  Orlando  sufficiently  libellous.  The 
first  encounter  of  Rosader  with  the  Duke  (whom 
Lodge  calls  King  Gerismond)  is  thus  described  by 
Lodge :  "  It  hapned  that  day  that  Gerismond,  the 
lawfull  king  of  France  banished  by  Torismond, 
who  with  a  lustie  crew  of  outlawes  liued  in  that 
Forrest,  that  day  in  honour  of  his  birth,  made  a 
feast  to  all  his  bolde  yeomen,  and  frolickt  it  with 
store  of  wine  and  venison,  sitting  all  at  a  long  table 
vnder  the  shadow  of  Limon  trees  :  to  that  place  by 
chance  fortune  conducted  Rosader,  who  seeing  such 
a  crew  of  braue  men,  hauing  store  of  that  for  want  of 
which  hee  and  Adam  perished,  hee  stept  boldly  to  the 
boords  end,  and  saluted  the  Company  thus. — What- 
soeuer  thou  be  that  art  maister  of  these  lustie  squires, 
I  salute  thee  as  graciously  as  a  man  in  extreame  dis- 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  175 

tresse  may :  knowe  that  I  and  a  fellow  friend  of 
mine,  are  here  famished  in  the  forrest  for  want  of 
foode  :  perish  we  must,  vnlesse  relieued  by  thy  fa- 
uours.  Therfore  if  thou  be  a  Gentleman,  giue  meate 
to  men,  and  such  as  are  euery  way  worthie  of  life  : 
let  the  proudest  Squire  that  sits  at  thy  table  rise  and 
encounter  with  me  in  any  honorable  point  of  ac- 
tivitie  whatsoeuer,  and  if  he  and  thou  proue  me 
not  a  man,  send  mee  away  comfortlesse :  if  thou 
refuse  this,  as  a  niggard  of  thy  cates,  I  will  haue 
amongst  you  with  my  sword,  for  rather  wil  I  die 
valiantly,  then  perish  with  so  cowardly  an  extreame. 
Gerismond  looking  him  earnestly  in  the  face,  and 
seeing  so  proper  a  Gentleman  in  so  bitter  a  passion, 
was  moued  with  so  great  pitie,  that  rising  from  the 
table  nee  tooke  him  by  the  hande,  and  bade  him 
welcome,  willing  him  to  sitte  downe  in  his  place, 
and  in  his  roome,  not  onely  to  eate  his  fill,  but  as 
Lord  of  the  feast.  Gramercy  Sir  (quoth  Rosader) 
but  I  haue  a  feeble  friend  that  lies  hereby  famished 
almost  for  food,  aged,  and  therefore  lesse  able  to 
abide  the  extremitie  of  hunger  then  my  selfe,  and 
dishonour  it  were  for  mee  to  taste  one  crum,  before 
I  made  him  partner  of  my  fortunes :  therefore  will 
I  run  and  fetch  him  and  then  I  will  gratefully  accept 
of  your  proffer." 

MORTON.  That  is  very  like  Shakespeare  also  :  the 
description  is  lively  and  picturesque,  and  the  af- 
fectionate considerateness  of  Rosader  for  his  old  and 


176  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

faithful  servant  quite  as  strongly  pourtrayed  as  in 
"  As  you  Like  it." 

BOURNE.  I  will  not  quote  the  narrative  of  the 
mode  in  which  Rosader  discovers  and  preserves  his 
brother  Saladine  from  the  lion,  because  that  passage, 
and  almost  that  only,  has  been  produced  by  the  com- 
mentators to  establish  the  resemblance.  In  Shake- 
speare's play  it  is  certainly  a  little  revolting  to  find 
Celia  so  suddenly  in  love  with  the  repentant  Oliver : 
this  incident  is  better  managed  by  Lodge,  than 
Shakespeare  had  the  means  of  doing  within  the  nar- 
row limits  of  a  theatrical  performance.  I  do  not 
think  it  worth  while  to  read  more  from  Lodge's 
"  Rosalynde:"  what  you  have  now  seen  will  answer 
the  purpose  we  had  in  view,  and  will  show  that 
Shakespeare  followed  his  original,  in  this  instance 
with  an  admiring  closeness. 

MORTON.  The  extracts  prove  likewise  that  the 
original  was  not  quite  so  worthless  as  Mr.  Steevens 
maintained  it  to  be. 

ELLIOT.  Steevens  was  a  tasteless  pedant,  and  no- 
thing better  could  be  expected  from  him.  His  sen- 
tences have  been  reversed  over  and  over  again ;  I 
mean  not  merely  with  respect  to  the  particular  tract 
before  us,  but  on  other  matters  on  which  he  has 
chosen  to  be  equally  dogmatical. 

BOURNE.  Do  not  let  us  renew  that  subject :  we 
know  that  you  and  the  annotators  are  at  daggers 
drawing,  and  most  frequently  I  should  be  inclined  to 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  177 

fight  on  your  side  j  but  this  is  not  the  fittest  time, 
however  just  the  quarrel.  Besides  the  resemblances 
we  have  noticed,  it  is  to  be  observed  that  Shakespeare 
has  also  adopted  Lodge's  under-plot  in  the  loves  of 
Sylvius  and  Phoebe,  but  the  comic  incidents  and  per- 
sons are  his  own  invention  and  introduction. 

MORTON.  The  remark,  you  may  remember,  also 
applies  to  his  adaptation  of  Rich's  novel  to  the  stage. 
May  the  same  be  said  of  the  "  Winter's  Tale,"  or 
does  Greene,  in  his  "  Dorastus  and  Fawnia,"  bring 
forward  any  such  character  as  Autolicus  ? 

BOURNE.  He  does  not;  but  the  greatest  difference 
between  Shakespeare  and  Greene,  in  regard  to  that 
story,  is,  that  the  latter  makes  Bellaria,  who  corre- 
sponds to  Hermione,  actually  die  in  consequence  of 
the  shock  of  the  unjust  accusation,  of  the  cruel  treat- 
ment she  receives  during  her  trial,  and  of  the  un- 
expected intelligence  of  the  death  of  her  young  son 
Garinter,  who  is  Shakespeare's  Prince  Mamillius. 
The  annotators  have  done  still  less  to  enable  the 
reader  of  "  the  Winter's  Tale"  to  compare  it  with 
"  Dorastus  and  Fawnia." 

ELLIOT.  How  long  before  Shakespeare  is  supposed 
to  have  written  his  "  Winter's  Tale"  did  Robert 
Greene  produce  his  "  Dorastus  and  Fawnia?" 

BOURNE.  The  earliest  date  hitherto  assigned  to 
the  Winter's  Tale  is  1594,  and  there  is  a  copy  of 
Greene's  "  Dorastus  and  Fawnia"  printed  as  early  as 
1 588 :  perhaps  there  might  be  others  even  still  earlier, 

VOL.  II.  N 


178  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

but  Greene's  first  extant  performance  is  dated  1584, 
and  is  called  "  A  Myrrour  of  Modestie:"  it  is  the 
story  of  Susanna  and  the  Elders,  told  at  considerable 
length,  and  with  some  eloquence.  This  shows  that 
he  began  his  literary  career  with  a  production  calcu- 
lated to  allay  rather  than  excite  the  passions. 

MORTON.  That  would  depend  much  on  the  mode 
in  which  it  was  handled :  it  is  not  difficult  to  imagine 
that  the  descriptions  in  the  history  of  Susanna  might 
be  so  highly  wrought  as  to  afford  very  strong  in- 
centives. 

BOURNE.  As  you  have  doubts  about  it,  and  as  it  is 
a  tract  of  the  very  rarest  occurrence,  never  quoted 
that  I  am  aware  of,  you  may  like  to  hear  a  short 
specimen  of  it :  we  will  then  proceed  to  his  "  Do- 
rastus  and  Fawnia."  The  title  speaks  pretty  un- 
equivocally as  to  the  nature  and  object  of  the  per- 
formance :  "  The  Myrrour  of  Modestie,  wherein  ap- 
peareth  as  in  a  perfect  Glasse  how  the  Lorde  de- 
liuereth  the  innocent  from  all  imminent  perils,  and 
plagueth  the  bloudthirstie  hypocrites  with  deserued 
punishments,"  &c.  "By  R.  G.  Maister  of  Artes.  Im- 
printed at  London  by  Roger  Warde,'.'  &c.  1584. 

MORTON.  Was  that  his  first  work  ?  It  does  not 
seem  very  probable  that  it  should  be,  recollecting 
that  he  died  of  a  surfeit  of  red  herrings  and  Rhenish 
in  1592. 

BOURNE.  I  only  said  it  was  his  first  extant  produc- 
tion, but  the  prefatory  matter  to  it  does  not  enable 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  179 

us  to  form  an  opinion  one  way  or  the  other:  the 
following  is  from  the  body  of  the  tract.  "  These 
two  cursed  caitifes  of  the  seede  of  Chanaan  southing 
one  another  in  this  deuilish  imagination,  concluded 
when  they  might  finde  hir  alone  to  sucke  the  bloude 
of  this  innocent  lambe,  and  with  most  detestable 
villanie  to  assaile  the  simple  minde  of  this  sillie 
Susanna.  Persisting  therefore  in  this  hellish  pur- 
pose, manie  daies  were  not  passed  ere  they  spied  fit 
oportunitie  (as  they  thought)  to  obtaine  their  desire, 
for  the  season  being  very  hot  and  the  tender  bodie 
of  Susanna  being  sore  parched  with  heate,  she  sup- 
posing that  none  of  hir  housholde,  much  lesse  anie 
stranger  had  bin  in  the  garden,  went  in  as  hir  vse 
was  with  two  maidens,  onlie  thinking  there  secretlie 
to  washe  hirselfe,  and  seing  the  coast  cleere  and 
hirself  solitarily  said  thus  vnto  them  :  bring  me 
quoth  she  oyle  and  sope  wherewith  to  washe,  and 
see  that  you  shut  the  doores  surelie.  The  maidens, 
carefullie  obaieng  their  mistresse  commande,  shut 
the  garden  gates  and  went  out  themselues  at  a 
backe  doore  to  fet  what  their  mistresse  had  willed 
them,  not  seeing  the  elders  because  they  were  hid, 
who  no  sooner  sawe  the  maidens  gone,  and  Susanna 
a  fit  pray  for  their  filthy  purpose,  but  they  rose  vp 
and  run  vnto  hir."  My  design  in  reading  this  pass- 
age, is  only  to  show  that  Greene  purposely  let  slip 
the  opportunity  of  giving  a  luxurious  or  exciting 
description  of  Susanna,  and  that  this  tract  is  very 


180  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

far  from  what  you  hinted  it  might  be.  However  ill- 
governed  Greene  might  be  in  his  life  and  manners, 
most  of  his  writings  are  calculated  to  warn  others  of 
the  dangers  he  had  not  been  able  to  shun. 

ELLIOT.  As  you  have  finished  your  quotation,  we 
may  proceed  with  "  Dorastus  and  Fawnia." 

MORTON.  Have  you  ever  seen  a  copy  of  it  printed 
in  1588? 

BOURNE.  Never  j  those  dated  before  1600  are  all 
very  difficult  to  be  procured :  indeed  I  never  saw  a 
copy  of  it  sold,  let  the  date  be  what  it  would,  under 
several  guineas.  I  have  fortunately  two,  one  of  them 
dated  in  1636,  and  the  other  as  late  as  1694,  and  I 
have  seen  a  third  printed  as  recently,  I  think,  as 
1724.  Observe  on  the  title-page  of  this  edition  of 
1694  there  is  a  curious  wood-cut,  containing  a 
summary  of  the  history,  like  the  plates  to  Orlando 
Furioso.  In  the  distance,  as  far  as  distance  is  pre- 
served in  so  rude  a  representation,  is  the  sea,  with 
a  boat  and  child  upon  it  ;  on  one  side,  but  more  in 
front,  is  a  shepherdess  tending  her  flock ;  and  in  the 
fore-ground  the  hero  in  armour,  and  heroine  in  a 
court  dress,  holding  each  other  by  the  hand.  The 
edition  of  1636,  which  is  the  most  valuable,  has  no 
such  ornament,  and  bears  the  following  title :  "  The 
Pleasant  Historic  of  Dorastus  and  Fawnia.  Wherein 
is  discovered,  that  although  by  the  meanes  of  sinister 
Fortune,  Truth  may  be  concealed,  yet  by  Time,  in 
spight  of  Fortune,  it  is  manifestly  revealed.  Pleasant 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  181 

for  age  to  avoyd  drowsie  thoughts,  Profitable  for 
Youth  to  avoyd  other  wanton  Pastimes,  And  bring- 
ing to  both  a  desired  Content.  Temporisjilia  Veritas. 
By  Robert  Greene,  Master  of  Arts  in  Cambridge. 
Omne  tulit  piuictum  qid  miscuit  ntile  dulci."  London, 
&c.  1636. 

MORTON.  The  edition  of  1694,  I  observe,  omits  a 
part  of  that  title,  in  order  to  make  room  for  the 
barbarous  wood-cut.  I  also  perceive  at  the  back  of 
the  title-page  of  1694,  a  poem  which  is  not  in  the 
copy  of  1636. 

BOURNE.  It  is  not,  and  you  will  find  that  the  lines 
are  not  contemptible.  I  suppose  the  printer  in  1636 
did  not  think  it  worth  while  to  insert  them,  though 
it  is  unquestionably  an  important  omission. 

MORTON.  I  will  read  them :  they  are  called, 

"  Dorastus  in  Loue-passion,  Writes  these  few  lines 
in  praise  of  his  louing  and  best-beloued  Fawnia? 

"  Ah,  were  she  pitifull  as  she  is  fair, 

or  but  as  mild  as  she  is  seeming  so, 
Then  were  my  hopes  greater  than  my  despair, 

then  all  the  World  were  Heauen,  nothing  Woe. 
Ah,  were  her  Heart  relenting  as  her  Hand, 

that  seems  to  melt  euen  with  the  mildest  touch, 
Then  knew  I  where  to  seat  me  in  a  Land, 

under  wide  Heauens  j  but  yet  not  such, 
So  as  she  shows :  she  seems  the  budding  Rose 

yet  sweeter  far  than  is  an  Earthly  flower : 


182  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

Souereign  of  Beauty!  like  the  Spray  she  grows 

compass'd  she  is  with  Thorns  and  cankered  flower. 
Yet  were  she  willing  to  be  pluck'd  and  worn 
She  would  be  gathered  though  she  grew  on  Thorn. 

''  Ah  when  she  sings,  all  Musick  else  be  still, 

for  none  must  be  compared  to  her  Note : 
Ne'er  breath'd  such  Glee  from  Philomelas  Bill, 

nor  from  the  Morning-singers  swelling  Throat : 
Ah,  when  she  riseth  from  her  blissfull  Bed 

she  comforts  all  the  World  as  doth  the  Sun, 
And  at  her  sight  the  Nights  foul  Vapours  fled; 

when  she  is  set  the  gladsome  day  is  done. 
O  glorious  Sun !  imagine  me  the  West, 
Shine  in  my  arms  and  set  thou  in  my  Breast !" 

MORTON.  You  said  the  lines  were  not  contemptible  j 
the  last  stanza  is  very  rich  and  harmonious,  and  the 
whole  is  an  elegant  composition,  with  some  very 
graceful  turns. 

ELLIOT.  You  over-rate  it:  it  is  good,  but  not 
quite  so  transcendent  as  you  seem  to  think  it.  The 
two  last  lines  are  somewhat  in  Sir  Richard  Black- 
more's  vein. 

MORTON.  You  may  be  right,  but  whether  right  or 
wrong,  I  should  not  be  inclined  just  now  to  contest 
the  matter.  I  perceive  that  Greene  gives  us  two 
mottos  on  the  title-page  of  1636 :  which  did  he  usually 
adopt  ?  Gascoigne,  we  know,  had  Tarn  Marti  tarn 
Mercurio,  and  Whetstone  Malgre  la  Fortune. 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  183 

BOURNE.  Omne  tulit  punctum,  &c.  was  Greene's 
ordinary  motto  to  his  early  publications  ;  but  upon 
this  point  there  is  a  singular  letter  by  him  prefixed  to 
his  "  Perimedes  the  Black-Smith,"  1588,  from  which 
you  will  not  have  forgotten  that  I  formerly  quoted 
two  specimens  of  blank  verse :  it  is  a  very  curious 
epistle,  as  it  relates  to  Greene's  publications,  friends 
and  enemies :  I  will  read  it  before  I  make  a  few 
quotations  from  "  Dorastus  and  Fawnia."  It  is  ad- 
dressed "  to  the  Gentlemen  Readers  Health,"  and  is 
in  these  terms :  "  Gentlemen  I  dare  not  step  awrye 
from  my  wonted  method,  first  to  appeale  to  your 
fauorable  courtesies,  which  euer  I  haue  found  (how- 
soeuer  plawsible)  yet  smothered  with  a  milde  silence : 
the  small  pamphlets  that  I  haue  thrust  forth  how  you 
haue  regarded  them  I  know  not,  but  that  they  haue 
been  badly  rewarded  with  any  ill  tearmes  I  neuer 
found,  which  makes  me  the  more  bold  to  trouble 
you  and  the  more  bound  to  rest  yours  euerye  waie, 
as  euer  I  haue  done :  I  keepe  my  old  course  to  palter 
vp  something  in  Prose  vsing  mine  old  poesie  still 
Omne  tulit  punctum,  although  lately  two  Gentlemen 
Poets  made  two  mad  men  of  Rome  beate  it  out  of 
their  paper  bucklers,  and  had  it  in  derision,  for  that 
I  could  not  make  my  verses  iet  vpon  the  stage  in 
tragicall  buskins,  euerie  worde  filling  the  mouth  like 
the  faburden  of  Bo -Bell,  daring  God  out  of  heauen 
with  that  Atheist  Tamburlan,  or  blaspheming  with 
the  mad  preest  of  the  sonne." 


184  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  That  is  very  remarkable.  Tamberlaine, 
I  suppose,  is  the  notorious  tragedy  by  Marlow,  and 
one  would  suppose,  from  what  is  said,  that  Greene 
was  at  this  time  upon  bad  terms  with  him. 

BOURNE.  Had  it  been  otherwise  he  would  hardly 
have  spoken  as  he  has  done  of  that  "  Atheist  Tain- 
burlann."  Greene,  a  few  lines  afterwards,  complains 
that  it  was  said  of  him  that  he  could  not  write 
blank  verse,  on  which  Marlow  seems  to  have  prided 
himself,  for  in  the  prologue  to  his  "  Tamberlaine" 
he  notes  the  distinction  in  this  respect  between  his 
tragedy  and  the  productions  of  "  rhyming  mother- 
wits." 

ELLIOT.  Greene's  address  really  seems  a  very  in- 
teresting one  :  let  us  hear  the  rest  of  it. 

BOURNE.  He  continues, — "  But  let  me  rather 
openly  pocket  vp  the  Asse  at  Diogenes  hand,  then 
wantonlye  set  out  such  impious  instances  of  intol- 
lerable  poetrie;  such  mad  and  scoffing  poets  that 
haue  propheticall  spirits,  as  bred  of  Merlins  race : 
if  there  be  anye  in  England  that  set  the  end  of 
scollarisme  in  an  Englishe  blank  verse,  I  thinke 
either  it  is  the  humor  of  a  nouice  that  tickles  them 
with  self-loue,  or  to  much  frequenting  the  hot  house 
(to  vse  a  Germaine  prouerbe)  hath  swet  out  all  the 
greatest  part  of  their  wits,  which  wasts  Gradatim, 
as  the  Italians  say  Poco  a  poco.  If  I  speake  darkely, 
Gentlemen,  and  offende  with  this  digression,  I  craue 
pardon  in  that  I  but  answere  in  print  what  they  haue 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  185 

offered  on  the  Stage."  Then  he  proceeds  to  speak 
merely  of  the  particular  work  he  is  presenting  to  the 
world. 

ELLIOT.  It  is  not  very  easy  to  ascertain  from  the 
last  sentence  whether  Greene  had  not  been  brought 
in  some  way  or  other  upon  the  stage,  or  at  least  his 
productions  ridiculed  there. 

BOURNE.  I  do  not  draw  either  of  these  conclusions ; 
I  apprehend  he  alludes  only  to  the  bringing  of  blank 
verse  upon  the  stage,  to  the  writing  of  which  '"  two 
Gentlemen  Poets,"  it  seems,  had  declared  him  in- 
competent. To  contradict  this  opinion  is  probably 
the  object  of  his  blank  verse  poems  inserted  in  his 
"  Perimedes." 

MORTON.  What  does  he  mean  when  he  says  that 
the  same  "  two  Gentlemen  Poets"  made  two  "  mad 
men  of  Rome"  beat  his  motto  "  out  of  their  paper 
bucklers  r" 

BOURNE.  Who  the  "  two  mad  men  of  Rome" 
were,  I  know  not,  but  by  beating  it  "  out  of  their 
paper  bucklers,"  I  understand,  erasing  it  from  their 
title-pages.  These  are  questions  which  it  is  now 
very  difficult  to  settle,  and  as  I  do  not  apprehend  we 
should  be  at  all  the  nearer  by  dwelling  longer  upon 
them,  we  will  proceed  to  "  Dorastus  and  Fawnia,"  in 
which  you  will  not  fail  to  bear  in  mind  that — 

Egistus  is  the  same  as  Shakespeare's  Polixenes. 

Pandosto as  Leontes. 

Bellaria  .  .  as  Hermione. 


186  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION 

Garinter  is  the  same  as  Shakespeare's  Mamillius. 

Dorastus as  Florizel. 

Fawnia as  Perdita. 

This,  with  the  general  resemblance  between  the  play 
and  the  story,  will  enable  you  to  understand  the  re- 
lation of  the  extracts. 

ELLIOT.  You  have  remarked  upon  one  principal 
discordance  between  "  the  Winter's  Tale"  and 
"  Dorastus  and  Fawnia  3" — do  they  run  parallel  in 
most  other  particulars  r 

BOURNE.  They  do,  excepting  in  one  offensive  in- 
cident, and  that  is,  that  Dorastus  flying  with  his 
Fawnia,  and  arriving  by  accident  at  the  Court  of 
Pandosto,  the  father  falls  in  love  with  his  own 
daughter,  and  endeavours  to  seduce  her  :  there  was 
no  necessity  for  this  circumstance,  and  the  conse- 
quence of  it  is,  in  addition  to  the  destruction  of  his 
wife,  that  Pandosto  is  rendered  unfit  to  enjoy  the 
happiness  of  the  young  Prince  and  Princess  when 
the  ultimate  discovery  of  Fawnia's  birth  is  made, 
and  he  destroys  himself.  We  have  already  seen  that 
Francis  Sabie  turned  the  fable  into  blank  verse, 
under  the  title  of  the  "  Fisherman's  Tale,"  and 
"  Flora's  Fortune,"  in  1595.  In  the  subsequent 
quotation  Greene  speaks  of  the  innocent  intimacy 
between  Bellaria  and  Egistus,  which  led  to  the 
jealousy  of  Pandosto.  {<  Bellaria  (who  in  her  time 
was  the  flowre  of  courtesie)  willing  to  show  how 
vnfainedly  she  loued  her  husband  by  her  friends  en- 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  187 

tertainemet,  vsed  him  likewise  so  familiarly  that  her 
countenance  bewraied  how  her  heart  was  affected 
toward  him  j  oftentimes  comming  her  selfe  into  his 
bed-chamber,  to  see  if  nothing  should  be  amisse  to 
dislike  him.  This  honest  familiarity  increased  daily 
more  and  more  betwixt  them,  for  Bellaria  noting  in 
Egistus  a  Princely  and  bountifull  mind,  adorned  with 
sundry  and  excellent  qualities,  and  Egistus  finding  in 
her  a  vertuous  and  curteous  disposition,  there  grew 
such  a  secret  vniting  of  their  affections,  that  the  one 
could  not  well  be  without  the  company  of  the  other : 
insomuch,  that  when  Pandosto  was  busied  with  such 
urgent  affaires  that  he  could  not  be  present  with  his 
friend  Egistus,  Bellaria  would  walk  with  him  into 
the  garden,  and  there  they  two  in  priuate  pleasant 
deuices,  would  passe  away  their  time  to  both  their 
contents." 

MORTON.  Hennione  tells  Leontes,  in  Shakespeare, 

"  If  you  will  seek  us, 


We  are  yours  i'the  garden,"  &c. 

ELLIOT.  If  the  reality  had  come  up  to  the  de- 
scription Greene  has  given  of  their  "  honest  fami- 
liarity," I  think  I  should  almost  have  been  led 
myself  to  suspect  the  lady. 

BOURNE.  He  carries  it  a  little  too  far — further  than 
Shakespeare,  who  well  knew  out  of  what  a  mere 
mustard-seed  the  huge  tree  of  jealousy  grows  :  like 
the  poison-tree  of  the  East,  it  flings  its  arms  far  and 
wide,  throwing  down  fresh  roots  at  a  distance  from 


188  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

the  original  trunk,  until  it  covers  and  blasts  the  whole 
soil.  The  description  of  the  embarkation  of  the  infant 
on  its  hopeless  voyage  is  very  pretty  and  affecting. 
"  The  Guard  left  her  (Bellaria)  in  this  perplexity, 
and  carried  the  childe  to  the  king,  who  quite  devoid 
of  pity  commanded  that  without  delay  it  should  be 
put  into  the  Boat,  hauing  neither  Saile  nor  Rudder 
to  guide  it,  and  so  to  be  carried  into  the  midst  of 
the  Sea,  and  there  left  to  the  windes  and  the  waues, 
as  the  Destinies  please  to  appoint.  The  very  Ship- 
men  seeing  the  sweete  countenance  of  the  young 
Babe,  began  to  accuse  the  King  of  rigour,  and  to 
pity  the  childs  hard  Fortune  :  but  feare  constrained 
them  to  that  which  their  nature  did  abhorre,  so 
that  they  placed  it  in  one  of  the  ends  of  the  Boat, 
and  with  a  few  green  boughes  made  a  homely  Cabbin 
to  shroud  it,  as  well  as  they  could,  from  wind  and 
weather.  Hauing  thus  trimmed  a  Boat,  they  tyed 
it  to  a  Ship,  and  so  haled  it  into  the  maine  Sea,  and 
then  cut  in  sunder  the  Cord;  which  they  had  no 
sooner  done,  but  there  arose  a  mighty  Tempest, 
which  tossed  the  little  Boat  so  vehemently  in  the 
waues,  that  the  Ship-men  thought  it  could  not  con- 
tinue long  without  sincking :  yet  the  storme  grew  so 
great,  that  with  great  labour  and  perill  they  got  to 
the  shore." 

MORTON.  The  introduction  of  the  storm  not  only 
creates  a  strong  interest  for  the  fate  of  the  infant, 
but  accounts  in  some  degree  for  the  space  of  sea  it 
passed  over  to  reach  Bohemia. 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  189 

BOURNE.  It  is  observable  that  Shakespeare  re- 
verses the  scene :  Greene's  story  begins  in  Bohemia, 
the  kingdom  of  Pandosto  j  and  the  ioves  of  Dorastus 
and  Fawnia,  the  Florizel  and  Perdita  of  the  play, 
commence  in  Sicily. 

MORTON.  I  do  not  think  Shakespeare's  alteration 
in  this  respect  so  judicious  as  usual,  because  the 
climate  of  Sicily  is  much  better  adapted  to  the 
pastoral  scenes  that  are  represented  there,  than 
Bohemia. 

ELLIOT.  Perhaps  so :  Shakespeare  has  been  charged 
with  ignorance  in  making  Bohemia  a  country  on  the 
sea-coast. 

BOURNE.  He  had  it  from  Greene:  he  took  the 
popular  story  with  the  popular  prejudices,  and  did 
not  think  it  worth  while,  for  the  sake  of  mere 
geographical  accuracy,  to  make  any  change.  Our 
time  is  now  so  far  exhausted  that  we  shall  not  be 
able  to  do  more  than  read  one  other  quotation  from 
Greene's  tract :  it  relates  to  the  first  interview  of 
Dorastus  and  Fawnia.  "  It  hapned  not  long  after 
this,  that  there  was  a  meeting  of  all  the  Farmors 
daughters  in  Sicilia,  whither  Fawnia  was  also  bidden 
as  the  mistresse  of  the  feast :  who  hauing  attired  her 
selfe  in  her  best  garments,  went  amongst  the  rest  of 
her  companions  to  a  merry  meeting,  there  spending 
the  day  in  such  homely  pastimes  as  Shepheards  vse. 
As  the  Euening  grew  on,  and  their  sport  ceased, 
each  taking  their  leaue  of  other,  Faivnia  desiring 
one  of  her  companions  to  beare  her  company,  went 


190  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

home  by  the  flocke  to  see  if  they  were  well  fowlded. 
And  as  they  returned,  it  fortuned  that  Dorastus  (who 
all  that  day  had  beene  hawking,  and  killed  store  of 
game)  incountred  by  the  way  these  two  maides, 
fearing  that  with  Acteon  he  had  seen  Diana;  for 
he  thought  such  exquisite  perfection  could  not  be 
found  in  any  mortall  creature.  As  thus  he  stood  in 
a  maze,  one  of  his  Pages  told  him  that  the  maid 
with  the  garland  on  her  head  was  Fawnia,  that  faire 
Shepheardesse,  whose  beauty  was  so  much  talked  of 
in  the  Court.  Dorastus,  desirous  to  see  if  nature 
had  adorned  her  mind  with  any  inward  qualities,  as 
she  had  decked  her  body  with  outward  shape,  began 
to  question  with  her  whose  daughter  she  was,  of 
what  age,  and  how  shee  had  beene  trained  vp? 
Who  answered  him  with  such  modest  reuerence  and 
sharpnesse  of  wit,  that  Dorastus  thought  her  out- 
ward beauty  was  but  a  counterfeit  to  darken  her  in- 
ward qualities  :  wondring  how  so  courtly  behauiour 
could  be  found  in  so  simple  a  Cottage,  and  cursing 
Fortune,  that  had  shaddowed  wit  and  beauty  with 
such  hard  Fortune.  As  thus  he  held  her  a  long 
time  with  chat,  beauty  seeing  him  at  discouert 
thought  not  to  loose  the  vantage,  but  strucke  him 
so  deepely  with  an  inuenomed  shafte,  as  he  wholly 
lost  his  liberty,  and  became  a  slaue  to  Loue,  which 
before  contemned  Loue  j  glad  to  gaze  vpon  a  poore 
shepheardesse,  who  before  refused  the  offer  of  a  rich 
Princesse." 

ELLIOT.  All  that  you  have  read  is  very  prettily 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  191 

told,  and  though  the  characters  are  more  strongly 
drawn  and  more  minutely  filled  up  by  our  dramatic 
poet,  the  outline,  and  that  a  graceful  one,  is  to  be 
found  in  Greene.  I  should  like  in  the  same  way 
to  go  through  some  of  the  other  plays  of  Shake- 
speare that  are  founded  upon  novels  in  "  the  Palace 
of  Pleasure." 

BOURNE.  Our  time  will  not  allow  us  to  begin 
them  now,  but  my  copy  of  that  entertaining  work 
you  may  have  the  use  of  at  any  time.  It  is  the  less 
necessary  to  go  through  them,  as  "  the  Palace  of 
Pleasure"  has  been  recently  pretty  correctly  reprinted. 
If  I  lend  you  my  edition  you  will  be  careful  of  it,  for 
original  copies  are  of  very  rare  occurrence. 

MORTON.  Nearly  the  same  may  be  said  of  North's 
Plutarch,  for  it  has  been  many  times  republished 
since  the  first  edition,  I  think  about  1579>  and  the  coin- 
cidences are  by  no  means  so  curious  or  so  important. 

BOURNE.  Before  we  conclude  for  the  day,  I  wish 
to  bring  under  your  notice  a  curiosity  that  has 
hitherto  escaped  the  vigilance  of  the  dust-raking 
commentators,  or  they  would  not  have  omitted  some 
notice  of  it.  I  call  it  a  curiosity,  because,  although 
it  relates  to  Shakespeare,  it  does  not  possess  much 
intrinsic  value.  It  is  contained  in  a  volume  of  poems 
by  Thomas  Prujean,  who  calls  himself  "  Student  of 
Caius  and  Gonvile  Colledge  in  Cambridge." 

ELLIOT.  What  does  it  consist  of? 

BOURNE.  Two  metrical  epistles  in  imitation  of 


192  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

Ovid,  one  from  Juliet  to  Romeo,  and  the  other  from 
Romeo  to  Juliet. 

MORTON.  What  is  the  date  and  the  title  of  Pru- 
jean's  volume?  I  never  heard  his  strange  name 
before. 

BOURNE.  Very  likely  not,  as  his  "  Aurorata," 
printed  in  1644,  is  very  often  not  found  even  in  cu- 
rious collections,  and  it  is  the  more  valuable,  be- 
cause in  the  second  part,  called  "  Loves  Looking- 
glasse,  divine  and  humane,"  are  contained  the 
epistles  to  which  I  have  referred. 

MORTON.  I  suppose  Prujean  means  the  Romeo  and 
Juliet  of  Shakespeare,  and  not  Arthur  Brooke's 
performance,  or  Painter's  novel  ? 

BOURNE.  He  does,  and  it  serves  to  show  how 
long  that  play  continued  popular.  Each  epistle 
occupies  about  four  pages,  and  what  I  now  read  is 
from  that  of  Juliet  to  Romeo,  for  the  lady  opens  the 
correspondence.  I  ought  to  mention  that  the  sub- 
ject is  introduced  by  the  following  "  Argument :" — 
"  Romeo  and  luliet,  issues  of  two  enemies,  Mounte- 
gue  and  Capulet,  Citizens  of  Verona,  fell  in  love  one 
with  the  other :  he  going  to  give  her  a  visit  meetes 
Tybalt  her  kinsman,  who  urging  a  fight  was  slaine 
by  him:  for  this  Romeo  was  banished  and  resided 
at  Mantua^  where  he  receiued  an  Epistle  from 
Juliet" 

ELLIOT.  Is  the  lady  very  passionate  in  her  epistle  > 

BOURNE.  You  will  see :  she  thus  writes — 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  193 

"  For  health  and  happinesse  doth  luliet  pray 

To  come  to  Romeo  and  his  Mantua. 

His  Mantua  !     O,  in  that  title  blest ! 

Would  my  poore  fame  could  have  such  happy  rest ! 

Once  it  was  so  j  once  could  this  poore  breast  boast, 

(Rich  only  then)  of  being  Romeos  hoast. 

No  sooner  doe  sleepes  charmes  upon  me  cease, 

But  fancie  straight  disturbes  me  of  my  ease. 

Her  troopes  she  brings,  in  which,  me  thinkes,  I  see 

Most  of  the  horrour  call  its  subject  thee.  * 

But  then  I  gan  to  cry,  why  should  these  eyes 

Pay  to  a  griefe  imlawfull  sacrifice  ? 

Why  should  I  weepe,  because  my  enemy 

Became  Fates  slave  and  Romeo  from  it  free  ? 

Is  he  a  friend  that  would  deny  to  give, 

But  rather  take  away  by  what  I  live, 

My  life,  my  dearest  ioy,  my  Romeo  ? 

Yet  are  my  roses  overcome  by  woe. 

From  thee  they  had  their  name,  and  sure  thy  love 

Their  planter,  nourisher,  blossomer  did  prove. 

From  thy  sweet  lips  (when  thou  didst  first  salute 

Me  at  the  Maske)  my  cheekes  did  steale  thy  sute 

Of  crimson,  and  since  thou  didst  kisse  more  free, 

They  got  what  made  up  their  maturitie.  *  *  * 

How  long  of  Romeo  must  I  dreame,  and  when 

I  thinke  I  have  thee  catch  the  ayre  againe 

Once  thou  vow'dst  by  thy  selfe,  which  I  did  take 

To  be  a  greater  then  thou  e'ere  couldst  make 

VOL.  II.  O 


194  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

By  heaven  it  selfe,  so  that  my  vow  did  tend, 
As  in  it  thou  thy  love  didst  then  commend  j 
Yet  keepe  it  as  thou  wilt,  all  luliets  cry 
Will  be  with  Romeo  to  live  and  dye." 

ELLIOT.  Upon  my  word  it  is  poor  stuff,  and  hardly 
readable  but  for  the  names  of  the  correspondents. 

MORTON.  Perhaps  Romeo's  epistle  is  better  than 
Juliet's,  though  in  general,  in  letter  writing,  the 
ladies  have  the  advantage  over  the  gentlemen. 

BOURNE.  It  would  not  be  easy  for  the  gentleman 
to  be  more  ardent  than  the  lady  in  this  instance :  a 
shorter  quotation  will  suffice  from  his  reply : 

"  Jhe  greet  thou  sent'st  no  more  belongs  to  mee 

Then  when  I  am  sweetly  embrac't  by  thee : 

Only  to  that  place  is  ascrib'd  all  blisse 

Where  Romeo  with  his  faire  luliet  is. 

Mantua's  nothing  but  a  cage  of  woe  3 

Where  thou  art  not  all  countryes  will  prove  so.  *  *  * 

Yet  when  I  name  thy  cousin,  griefe  does  view 

Some  blood  of  thine  in  him,  &  that  will  sue 

To  have  a  tributary  brine.    The  muse 

That  sings  his  death  may  out  of  th'  Laurel  chuse 

As  faire  a  branch  as  any.     It  is  thee 

(When  he  sings  him)  shall  blesse  his  poetry. 

The  Destinies  grew  proud  when  as  they  had 

Got  so  much  luliet  within  their  shade.  *  *  * 

And  let  not  feare  wither  that  rosie  bed 

Upon  thy  cheekes,  nor  make  the  Lilly  dead. 


EIGHTH  CONVERSATION.  195 

Know  I  am  Romeo  still,  know  I  am  he 
Who  vow'd  what  never  shall  be  broke  to  thee. 
My  selfe  shall  be  my  selfe  ;  who  dares,  who  will 
Forsake  life  for  to  runne  to  deadly  ill  ? 
When  I  name  luliet,  and  voyce  shee  is  mine, 
I  make  a  boast  I  equall  powres  divine. 
I'm  banish't  faire  Verona*  and  will  be 
Banisht  life,  yet  never  untrue  to  thee." 

MORTON.  Prujean  does  not  even  make  Romeo  and 
Juliet  write  tolerable  verse :  this  is  the  least  that  one 
would  have  expected.  Here  then  we  end  for  to-day. 

BOURNE.  I  would  only  remark,  in  conclusion,  that 
in  Thomas  Fortescue's  translation,  called  "  The 
Foreste,  or  Collection  of  Histories  no  lesse  profitable 
then  pleasant,"  1571>  (fo.  138,  b.)  is  a  story  "of  a 
pretie  guile  practised  by  a  vertuous  and  good  Quene 
towardes  her  houseband,  by  means  whereof  lames, 
Kyng  of  Arragon,  was  begotten,"  which  much  re- 
sembles a  main  incident  in  "  All's  Well  that  ends 
Well."  I  do  not  mean  that  Shakespeare  used  it,  be- 
cause it  is  notorious  that  he  followed  the  novel  in 
"  the  Palace  of  Pleasure." 

ELLIOT.  The  original  is  in  Italian,  and  is  told  by 
Boccacio  in  his  Decameron,  Gior.  III.  Nov.  9. 

BOURNE.  It  is,  and  from  thence  Painter  translated 
his  somewhat  formal  narrative.  As  he  relates  it,  it 
is  by  no  means  one  of  the  pleasantest  stories  in  the 
collection. 


196  EIGHTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  How  long  was  it  before  any  complete 
translation  of  Boccacio's  Decameron  appeared  in 
English? 

BOURNE.  The  Rev.  Mr.  Todd,  in  his  Dictionary, 
under  the  word  "  Cheer,"  quotes  "  Translation  of 
Boccacio,  1587,"  but  I  have  never  seen  any  such 
work :  it  may  perhaps  not  mean  a  translation  of  the 
Decameron,  but  of  some  other  production  by  the  same 
author.  The  first  complete  edition  of  Boccacio's 
Decameron  I  have  seen  is  called  "  The  Modell  of 
Wit,  Mirth,  Eloquence,  and  Conversation,"  &c. :  the 
first  volume  is  printed  by  J.  Jaggard,  in  1625,  and 
what  is  singular  is,  that  the  second  part,  named  ex- 
pressly "  The  Decameron,  containing  an  hundred 
pleasant  Novels,"  bears  date  in  1620,  unless  there 
be  some  defect  in  my  copy.  By  the  Register  of  the 
Stationers'  Company  we  find,  that  in  1619  Abbot, 
Archbishop  of  Canterbury,  prohibited  the  publication 
of  "  The  Decameron  of  Mr.  John  Boccace  Flo- 
rentine." 

MORTON.  Is  that  translation  a  good  one  ?  I  do  not 
think  that  Painter  is  usually  very  happy  in  his  version. 
BOURNE.  It  is  very  unequal :  some  of  the  stories 
are  much  better  told  than  others.  The  translator, 
whoever  he  might  be,  sometimes  took  considerable 
liberties  with  his  original :  for  instance,  in  Day  IX. 
Nov.  9.  he  makes  Solomon  King  of  Great  Britain, 
and  sometimes  introduces  even  more  considerable 
alterations. 


THE 

POETICAL  DECAMEEON. 


THE  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 


CONTENTS 

OF  THE  NINTH  CONVERSATION 


Tracts  on  the  subject  of  theatrical  performances  previous  to  the 
restoration — Works  where  they  are  touched  upon  incidentally — 
"  The  Fardle  of  facions,"  1555 — Plays  among  the  Chinese  noticed 
in  Parke's  "  Historic  of  China,"  1588 — Argument  of  a  Chinese 
play — Plays  of  the  Bramins  or  Abrahmanes — Attack  on  the 
Puritans  by  William  Warner — "  The  Chirche  of  euyl  men  and 
women,"  printed  by  Pynson,  1509 — Price  of  tracts  on  the  stage 
in  1781 — Gascoyne's  "  Wy}l  of  the  Deuyll" — Stephen  Gossan,  a 
play-poet,  author  of  three  pamphlets  against  the  stage — His 
"  Schoole  of  Abuse,"  1579,  dedicated  to  Sir  P.  Sidney,  and  its 
reception  by  him — Extract  on  the  degeneracy  of  the  age — Ac- 
count of  Gosson,  and  his  own  praise  of  his  plays:  also  a  pastoral 
poet — But  two  relics  by  Gosson  existing — Stanza  from  his  com- 
mendatory verses  to  Nicholas's  "  Historic  of  the  Weast  India," 
1578 — His  poem  called  Spec  id  urn  limnannm  at  the  end  of  Kirton's 
"  Mirror  of  Mans  life,"  1580,  extracted — Remarks — Gosson's 
"  Ephemerides  of  Phialo,"  and  "  Short  Apologie,"  &c.  1579  and 
158G — His  reply  to  the  Excusers  of  stage-plays  quoted — His 
"  Playes  confuted  in  fiue  actions,"  &c.  1581,  and  its  application 
— Thomas  Lodge's  "  Play  of  Playes" — His  very  scarce  and 
curious  tract  called  "  An  Alarum  against  Vsurers,"  &c.  1584, 
containing  a  reply  to  Gosson's  attack  upon  him  in  his  "  Playes 
confuted" — Dedication  by  Lodge  to  Sir  P.  Sidney,  and  his  address 
to  the  "  Gentlemen  of  the  Innes  of  Court,"  comprising  his  reply 
to  Gosson — Extracts — Lodge's  "  Play  of  Playes,"  never  published 
— His  good  humour  under  Gosson's  most  gross  attack — His  birth 
and  family,  and  T.  Sailer's  "  Mirror  of  Modesty,"  dedicated  to 
Sir  Thomas  Lodge,  referred  to — Lodge's  candour  towards,  and 


200  CONTENTS. 

praise  of  Gosson — Complimentary  stanzas  on  Lodge  by  Bamabe 
Rich,  extracted — Gosson  a  writer  of  blank  verse — Queen  Eliza- 
beth's chorus  to  one  of  Seneca's  tragedies — John  iS'orthbrooke's 
"  Treatise  against  Dicing,  Dauncing,  Vaine  playes,"  &c.  im- 
printed by  H.  Bynneman — Quotations  on  the  manners  of  the 
time,  on  the  plays  then  represented,  and  against  theatres  and  actors 

«  The  Anatomic  of  Abuses,"  1585,  by  Philip  Stubbes — Its 

popularity  and  number  of  editions — Thomas  Nash's  attack  on 
Stubbes  in  his  "  Almond  for  a  Parrat" — Extract  from  Stubbes's 
work,  and  his  denunciation  of  plays,  players,  play-writers,  and 
play-goers — G.  Whetstone's  "  Addition  or  Touchstone  for  the 
Time,"  1584,  quoted  on  the  abuse  of  theatrical  performances — 
John  Field's  "  Godly  exhortation  by  occasion  of  the  late  Judge- 
ment of  God  shewed  at  Paris-garden,"  1583 — Bear-baiting  and 
stage-plays  coupled  by  the  puritans — Quotation  on  the  abolition  of 
plays  on  Sunday — Uncertainty  on  this  point  in  our  histories  of  the 
stage — Arthur  Golding's  "  Discourse  vpon  the  Earthquake"  of 
April  6,  1580,  adduced  to  prove  that  plays  were  usually  then  re- 
presented on  Sunday — W.  Rankin's  "  Mirour  of  Monsters,"  1587 
— Its  rarity — A  mask  described  in  it,  and  quotation  against  actors 
— Speech  of  Luxuria  from  the  same — Dr.  Rainoldes  "  Overthrow 
of  Stage-Playes,"  1599:  its  object — Epigram  by  Thomas  Bastard 
on  Dr.  Rainoldes — Oaths  on  the  stage — Dr.  Gager's  academic  play 
called  Ulysses  redux — Dr.  Rainoldes  on  the  crimes  of  players, 
especially  deer-stealing—Shakespeare  and  the  charge  against  him 
by  Sir  T.  Lucy — On  men  dressing  themselves  as  women  on  the 


THE 

POETICAL  DECAMEKON. 


THE  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  The  task  you  propose  is  not  an  easy  one, 
whether  we  consider  the  number  of  books  we  shall 
have  to  examine,  or  the  attention  they  will  require. 
We  must  not  lose  time  if  we  are  to  complete  it  to- 
day and  to-morrow. 

ELLIOT.  We  must  avoid  digressions  then  as  much 
as  possible,  keeping  as  strictly  as  we  can  to  the  tracts 
that  have  been  written  for  and  against  theatrical  per- 
formances. 

BOUBNE.  And  touching  only  upon  those  that  are 
of  the  greatest  rarity,  and,  of  course,  not  bringing  it 
down  lower  than  the  protectorate — the  triumph  of 
William  Prynne,  and  the  puritans.  We  must  also 
limit  ourselves  in  another  respect ;  not  to  notice 
pieces  that  only  introduce  the  subject  of  stage  plays 
and  actors  incidentally,  unless  for  some  special  pur- 
pose :  our  inquiry  would  otherwise  be  almost  endless. 

MORTON.  Explain  what  you  mean  a  little  more 


202  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

fully.  I  should  feel  very  reluctant  to  omit  any  thing 
important  or  curious. 

BOURNE.  I  can  do  so  best,  perhaps,  by  an  example. 
Here,  for  instance,  is  a  work  which  might  easily 
draw  us  out  of  our  course  5  as,  besides  being  one  of 
the  earliest  incidental  censures  of  the  stage,  it  con- 
tains a  great  deal  of  amusing  matter :  the  title  of  it 
is,  "  The  Fardle  of  facions,  conteining  the  aunciente 
maners,  customes,  and  Lawes  of  the  peoples  inhabit- 
ing the  two  partes  of  the  earth,  called  AfFrike  and 
Asie.  Printed  at  London  by  Ihon  Kingstone,"'l555. 
It  is  a  production  of  great  rarity. 

ELLIOT.  One  does  not  readily  see  how  in  a  treatise 
upon  Africa  and  Asia,  the  author  can  introduce  any 
thing  about  theatrical  performances  in  England. 

MORTON.  I  think  he  might  do  it  very  easily  j 
when  speaking  of  Asia,  he  would  perhaps  notice  the 
plays  of  the  Chinese,  who  are  known  to  have  had 
them  represented  some  hundreds  of  years,  at  least, 
before  they  found  their  way  into  Europe. 

ELLIOT.  Very  true:  Voltaire's  Orphan  of  China 
is  founded  upon  an  old  Chinese  play,  a  translation 
of  which  was  published  by  Bishop  Percy  j  and  very 
lately  a  gentleman  of  the  name  of  Davis  (I  think 
that  was  his  name),  put  one  of  them  into  an  English 
dress,  called  "  An  Heir  in  his  old  Age." 

MORTON.  In  Parke's  "  Historic  of  the  great  and 
mightie  kingdome  of  China,"  1588,  which  has  been 
before  mentioned,  there  is  a  good  deal  regarding  the 
theatrical  representations  of  the  Chinese. 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  203 

BOURNE.  I  have  not  on  my  memory  any  thing  of 
that  kind :  it  must  be  curious.  Here  is  the  book ; 
perhaps  you  will  point  it  out. 

MORTON.  On  p.  106,  where  it  is  said,  "  At  these 
bankettes  and  feastes,  there  are  present  alwayes 
women  gesters,  who  doo  play  and  sing,  vsing  manie 
prettie  gestes  to  cause  delight,  and  make  mirth  to 
the  guestes  :  besides  these  they  haue  diuerse  sortes 
of  men  with  other  instruments,  as  tomblers  and 
players,  who  do  represent  their  Comedies  very  per- 
fectly and  naturally." 

BOURNE.  "  Women  jesters"  I  never  heard  of  be- 
fore, but  it  does  not  seem  that  they  were  actresses. 

MORTON.  Further  on,  on  p.  207  and  p.  221,  the 
"  arguments,"  as  they  are  called,  of  two  of  the  plays 
represented,  are  inserted  as  from  the  mouth  of  an 
interpreter:  there  appears  to  be  great  simplicity 
about  them,  as  you  may  judge  from  the  following, 
which  is  one  of  them  :  "  In  times  past  there  was  in 
that  countrie  manie  mightie  and  valiant  men  j  but 
amongest  them  all,  there  was  in  particular  three 
brethren  that  did  exceede  all  the  rest  that  euer  were 
in  mightinesse  and  valiantnesse.  The  one  of  them 
was  a  white  man,  the  other  was  ruddish  or  hie 
coloured  and  the  thirde  blacke.  The  ruddish  being 
more  ingenious  and  of  better  Industrie,  did  procure 
to  make  his  white  brother  king,  the  which  iudgement 
was  agreeable  vnto  the  rest.  Then  they  altogether 
did  take  away  the  kingdome  from  him  that  did  at 


204  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

that  time  raigne,  who  was  called  Laupicono,  an 
effeminate  man  and  verie  vicious.  This  they  did 
represent  verie  gallantly  with  garmentes  verie  meete 
for  those  personages." 

ELLIOT.  This  is  enough  to  show,  according  to  the 
account  of  travellers  in  China  nearly  two  centuries 
and  a  half  ago,  that  the  dramatic  exhibitions  of  the 
Chinese  were  in  a  very  advanced  state,  both  as  to 
subject  and  what  are  now  called  properties. 

MORTON.  The  story  of  the  play  is  capable  of  con- 
siderable variety,  but  whether  female  characters  were 
introduced  into  it  we  are  not  informed.  The  plot  of 
the  piece  spoken  of  on  p.  221,  is  somewhat  more 
complicated.  However,  to  go  further  into  this  sub- 
ject, would  be  to  commit  the  very  error  which  it  is 
our  business  to  avoid.  I  interrupted  you  in  your 
observations  upon  the  "  Fardle  of  Fashions." 

BOURNE.  The  passage  I  had  to  produce  from  it 
does  not  deserve  extracting  so  much  as  what  you 
have  just  concluded  j  but  it  perhaps  still  merits 
notice,  as  connected  in  subject,  and  as  containing  an 
incidental  blow  at  the  theatrical  amusements  in  Eng- 
land as  they  existed  about  the  year  1555.  The  author, 
or  rather  translator,  who  inserts  much  original  matter, 
is  speaking  of  the  Bramins  and  their  employments, 
and  it  is  observable  that  he  calls  them  Abrahmanes, 
which  affords  a  third  and  a  plausible  etymology  to 
the  two  already  conjectured,  for  the  word  Bramin 
or  Brachman.  "  Thei  couette  no  sightes,  nor  shewes 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  205 

of  misrule :  no  disguisinges  nor  entreludes ;  but 
when  thei  be  disposed  to  haue  the  pleasure  of  the 
stage  thei  entre  into  the  regestre  of  their  stories,  and 
what  thei  finde  there  most  fit  to  be  laughed  at,  that 
do  thei  lamente  and  bewaile." 

ELLIOT.  That  seems  rather  contradictory :  I  sup- 
pose it  means  that  these  Bramins,  like  very  wise 
men,  lament  and  bewail  the  follies  of  their  ancestors : 
others  may  say, 

Felices  proavorum  atavos,felicia  dicas 
ScBcula  ; 

but  they  were  above  the  vulgar  prejudice. 

BOURNE.  Like  Bottom,  they  "  will  condole  in 
some  measure,"  and  congratulate  themselves  how 
much  wiser  they  were  than  their  predecessors. 
Watreman  (the  translator)  goes  on :  "  Thei  delighte 
not,  as  many  do,  to  heare  olde  wiues  tales  and  fantasies 
of  Robin  hoode,  but  in  studious  consideration  of  the 
wondrefull  workemanship  of  the  world  and  the  per- 
fect disposinge  of  thinges  in  suche  ordre  of  course 
and  degree.  Thei  crosse  no  sease  for  merchaundise, 
ne  learne  no  colours  of  Rhetoricque."  The  whole  of 
the  passage  of  which  what  I  have  read  is  the  begin- 
ning, is  aimed  against  the  manners  of  the  age,  and 
particularly  against  "  sightes,  shewes  of  misrule,  dis- 
guisinges and  entreludes." 

MORTON.  Yet,  not  long  afterwards,  what  he  com- 
plains of  was  partially  remedied  -}  our  dramatic  poets 
"  entered  into  the  register  of  their  stories"  in  hi- 


206  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

storical  plays,  and  thus  gave  the  audiences  "  the 
pleasure  of  the  stage"  which  the  Bramins  enjoyed. 

BOURNE.  But  they  did  not  "  lament  and  bewail" 
what  "  they  found  there  most  fit  to  be  laughed  at." 
In  that  respect  our  forefathers  were  not  so  sagacious 
as  the  Bramins,  and  if  they  had  been,  perhaps  we 
might  have  now  been  neither  wiser  nor  happier  than 
the  Indians.  But  not  to  pursue  this  further,  I  only 
introduced  that  quotation  as  one  among  many  of  the 
incidental  attacks  upon  stage-plays. 

MORTON.  William  Warner,  the  author  of  that 
popular  poem  of  "  Albion's  England,"  which  went 
through  so  many  editions  between  1586  and  1612, 
and  contains  so  much  good  poetry  and  curious  in- 
formation, has  made  a  heavy  hit  at  the  puritans,  as  the 
enemies  of"  meet  sports,"  and  among  them  theatrical 
representations,  which  he  says  they  had  "  well  near 
exiled." 

"  These  Hypocrites  for  these  three  Gifts  to  their 

Lauerna  pray, 
Just  to  be  thoght,  Al  to  beguile,  That  none  their 

guiles  bewray: 
Their  art  is  fayning  good  they  want,  and  hiding  bad 

they  haue : 
Their  Practise  is  selfe-praise,  of  praise  all  others  to 

depraue. 
On  Loue,  say  some,  waites  lelosie,  but  lelosie  wants 

loue, 
When  curiously  it  ouer-plus  doth  idle  Quarrels  moue: 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  207 

Best  Puritaines  are  so  ore-zeal'd,  but  should  I  terme 

the  rest, 

Inhospitalous,  Mutinous,  and  Hypocrites  the  bestj 
Insociable,  Maleparte,  foxing  their  priuate  good, 
Exiling  hence  wel-neere  all  Troth,  meet  Sports  and 

Neighbourhood ; 
Learnings  foes,  contemptuously  by  them  be  Lawes 

withstood. 
Selfe-pleasers,  Skorners,  Harlots,  Crones,  against  the 

Haire  in  all: 
Of  their   extreme,  whence   Atheisme  breeds,  bee 

warning  Hackets  fall ! 
If  euer  England  will  in  aught  preuent  her  owne 

Mishap, 

Against  these  skorns  (no  terme  too  grosse)  let  Eng- 
land shut  the  gap." 

ELLIOT.  You  did  right  to  call  it  a  heavy  hit,  for 
the  lines  are  monstrously  lumbering.  The  censure 
they  contain  is,  notwithstanding,  severe,  and,  I  dare 
say,  generally  true.  Well  then,  if  we  are  to  hear  no 
more  of  attacks  on  the  stage  by  the  way,  in  works 
not  professing  to  treat  of  that  subject,  with  what 
tract  especially  devoted  to  plays  and  amusements  of 
the  same  class  will  you  commence  your  examination? 

BOURNE.  That  question  is  certainly  not  so  easily 
answered.  I  might,  perhaps,  begin  with  the  most  rare 
tract,  printed,  as  is  supposed,  by  Pynson,  in  1509, 
and  called  "  The  chirche  of  euyl  men  and  women, 


208  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

wherof  Lucyfer  is  the  head,  and  the  members  is 
all  players  dyssolute  and  synners  reproued."  Mr. 
Dibdin,  in  his  edition  of  Ames,  does  not  profess  to 
have  seen  a  copy  of  it,  and  gives  merely  the  account 
he  found  in  Herbert's  Appendix,  and  an  extract  from 
the  Bodleian  catalogue.  It  was  valued  in  the  library 
of  Bryan  Fairfax,  in  1756,  at  «£2  8s.,  but  the  sum 
cannot  be  named  that  a  copy  would  now  produce  if 
brought  to  the  hammer. 

MORTON.  I  was  the  other  day  looking   over  a 
priced  catalogue  of  the  books  belonging  to  Topham 
Beauclerc,  which  were  sold  in  1781,  and  I  found  the 
subsequent  article  connected  with  our  present  in- 
quiry, and  showing  the  astonishingly  low  price  at 
which  some,  I  believe,  of  the  most  valuable  tracts 
on  the  stage  sold  at  that  date. 
BOURNE.  Read  it  by  all  means. 
MORTON.  The  following  were  knocked  down  in 
one  lot  for  only  of  3  6s. 

"  Gosson  (Steph.)  Playes  confuted  in  five  actions 
proving  that  they  are  not  to  be  suffred  in  a 
Christian  common  weale,  b.  1.  dedicated  to 
Sir  Fr.  Walsingham.  No  date. 
A  second  and  third  blast  of  Retreate  from 
Plaies  and  Theatres,  showing  the  filthiness  of 
Plaies  in  Times  past  and  the  abomination  of 
them  in  the  time  present.  Set  forth  by 
Anglo-phile  Eutheo— impr.  by  Hen.  Den- 
ham,  1580. 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  **> 

A  manifest  detection  of  the  most  vyle  and  de- 
testable use  of  dyce-play  by  Gilb.  Walker, 
b.  1.  impr.  by  Abr.  Vele  :  no  date. 
A  dialogue  between  custome   and  Veritie   con- 
cerning dauncing  and  minstrelsie.  b.  1.  impr. 
by  lo.  Aide.     No  date. 
Maister  Tho.  Lodge  his  reply  to  Steph.  Gosson 

touching  Playes.  b.  1.  no  title. 
The  wyll  of  the  Deuyll  with  his  ten  detestable 
commandments,  by  Geo.  Gascoyne :    impr. 
by  Rich.  Jones,  no  date. 

Tho.  Salter  his  contention  between  three  bre- 
theren,  that  is  to  say  the  Whoremonger,  the 
Dronkard  and  the  Dyce  player,  b.  1.  impr.  for 
Tho.  Gosson,  1580." 

BOURNE.  A  most  rare  assemblage  of  tracts,  any 
one  of  which  would  probably  now  sell  for  twice  the 
sum  that  was  then  given  for  the  whole,  and  several 
of  them  for  much  more.  Gosson's  and  Lodge's 
pieces  are  among  the  most  rare.  Of  Gascoyne's 
production  what  you  have  read  is  the  only  existing 
register,  and  from  that  it  does  not  appear  whether 
it  did  or  did  not  include  stage  plays. 

MORTON.  He  was  himself  a  writer  of  plays :  it 
would  rather  therefore  be  directed  against  some  other 
horrible  vice  than  that  of  visiting  theatres. 

BOURNE.  Such  literary  tergiversation  would  by  no 
means  be  without  a  parallel,  and  that  in  the  instance 
of  a  writer  just  enumerated. 

VOL.  II.  p 


210  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

ELLIOT.  Which  of  them  ? 

BOURNE.  Stephen  Gosson,  who,  according  to  hi* 
own  confession  as  I  will  show  you  presently,  wrote 
several  plays,  and  afterwards  in  the  most  violent 
terms  abused  theatrical  representations. 

ELLIOT.  What  were  the  names  of  the  plays  he 
wrote  ?  Have  any  of  them  reached  our  time  ? 

BOURNE.  Nothing  but  their  titles;  it  is  stated 
that  they  were  never  printed  :  he  wrote  "  Catilines 
Conspiracies,"  a  Tragedy,  "  Captain  Mario,"  a  Co- 
medy, and  "  Praise  at  parting,"  a  Morality. 

MORTON.  And  what  were  the  titles  of  the  pieces 
he  published  afterwards  against  stage-plays  ? 

BOURNE.  They  were  three  ;  but  the  first,  and  the 
most  notorious,  is  his  "  Schoale  of  Abuse  containing 
a  pleasant  Inuectiue  against  Poets,  Pipers,  Players, 
Testers,  and  such  like  Caterpillers  of  the  Common- 
wealth." 

ELLIOT.  When  did  that  "  pleasant  invective,"  if  it 
be  so,  make  its  appearance  ? 

BOURNE.  The  earliest  edition  I  have  seen  is  dated 
in  1579,  but  I  am  not  sure  that  it  was  not  before 
printed.  Prynne,  who  is  generally  tolerably  accu- 
rate as  to  dates,  says  in  his  Histriomastix,  that  it 
was  printed  "  by  allowance"  in  1578,  and  this  is 
rendered  the  more  probable  because  it  is  certain 
that  in  1579  "  a  short  Apologie  of  the  Schoole  of 
Abuse"  was  written  by  the  same  pen :  to  this  we 
shall  advert  presently,  and  in  the  mean  time  I  will 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  21 1 

read  you  a  brief  passage  or  two  from  the  "  Schoole 
of  Abuse"  itself,  that  you  may  see  how  "  pleasant" 
this  "  Invective"  is.  I  advise  you  not  to  promise 
yourselves  too  much  entertainment.  The  tract 
opens  by  adverting  at  some  length  to  the  estimation 
of  poets  in  former  ages. 

MORTON-.  Has  it  no  dedication,  or  did  the  author 
think  the  protection  of  a  patron  unnecessary  to  so 
laudable  an  undertaking  ? 

BOURNE.  I  am  obliged  to  you  for  reminding  me 
of  a  circumstance  I  should  otherwise  have  omitted. 
He  ventured  to  dedicate  it  to  Sir  Philip  Sidney,  but 
Spenser,  in  one  of  his  letters  to  his  friend  Gabriel 
Harvey,  under  date  of  1580,  tells  him  how  it  \\&s 
received  by  "  the  president  of  nobleness  and  chi- 
valry ;'"  "  New  bookes  (he  says)  I  heare  of  none, 
but  onely  of  one  that  writing  a  certaine  booke  called 
the  Schoole  of  Abuse,  and  dedicating  it  to  Maister 
Sidney  was  for  his  labour  scorned  ;  if  at  leaste  it  be 
in  the  goodnesse  of  that  nature  to  scorne.  Suche 
follie  is  it  not  to  regarde  aforehande  the  inclination 
and  qualitie  of  him  to  whom  we  dedicate  our 
bookes." 

ELLIOT.  That  is  just  as  it  should  have  been  j 

"  Poor  Curio  runs  his  labours  to  inscribe 
To  one  who  scorns  the  low  detracting  tribe," 

are  lines  very  applicable  to  Gosson's  predicament. 
BOURNE.  Yet  notwithstanding  he  was  "  scorned," 

p  <2 


212  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

(whether  it  was  that  the  «  nature"  of  Sidney  would 
not  allow  him  to  express  it  with  severity)  Gosson 
persisted  in  dedicating  to  him  the  "  short  Apologie 
of  the  Schoole  of  Abuse,"  of  which  I  have  spoken. 
The  first  thing  we  have  to  do  is  to  examine  briefly 
the  "  Schoole  of  Abuse"  itself.  The  subsequent 
quotation  refers  to  the  old  theme  of  degeneracy  of 
the  age,  the  comparison  being  made  between  the 
condition  of  society  in  Gosson's  time,  and  in  the  first 
state  of  barbarism  of  the  people  of  England.  "  Oh 
what  a  wonderfull  chaunge  is  this  !  Our  wreastling 
at  armes  is  turned  to  wallowing  in  ladies  laps,  our 
courage  to  cowardice,  our  running  to  ryot,  our 
bowes  into  bolles,  and  our  darts  into  dishes.  We 
have  robbed  Greece  of  gluttonie,  Italy  of  wanton- 
nesse,  Spaine  of  pride,  Fraunce  of  deceite  and 
Duchland  of  quaffing.  Compare  London  to  Rome, 
and  England  to  Italy,  you  shall  finde  the  theaters  of 
the  one,  the  abuses  of  the  other  to  be  rife  among  vs : 
experto  crede,  I  haue  scene  somewhat  and  therefore, 
I  think,  I  may  say  the  more." 

ELLIOT.  Does  he  mean  by  "  experto  crede"  that 
he  has  <f  seen  somewhat"  of  the  foreign  countries  he 
names,  or  that  he  has  had  experience  of  the  vices  of 
his  own  ? 

BOURNE.  I  apprehend  the  last,  for  we  do  not 
know  that  he  travelled :  he  was  born  in  1554,  was 
entered  at  Oxford  in  15/2,  and  probably  soon  after- 
wards commenced  poet  and  play-wright.  What  gave 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  213* 

him  his  disgust,  whether  the  hisses  of  his  audience 
or  otherwise,  there  is  no  account,  but  returning  to 
his  university  (from  whence  he  dates  his  dedication 
to  his  "  short  Apologie"  in  1579)»  ne  to°k  orders  and 
died  in  1629.  The  most  curious  part  of  his  "  Schoole 
of  Abuse"  relates  to  himself  and  one  of  his  own 
plays :  it  is  this.  He  is  speaking  of  some  plays 
that  may  be  endured,  after  having  abused  all  plays, 
players,  and  poets,  in  general.  "  And  as  some  of  the 
players  are  farre  from  abuse,  so  some  of  their  playes 
are  without  rebuke  which  are  as  easily  remembred  as 
quickly  reckoned. — The  two  prose  bookes  plaied  at 
the  Belsauage  where  you  shall  finde  neuer  a  woorde 
without  wite,  neuer  a  line  without  pith,  neuer  a 
letter  placed  in  vaine.  The  lew  and  Ptolome  showne 
at  the  Bull,  the  one  representing  the  greedinesse  of 
worldly  chusers,  and  bloody  mindes  of  vsurers,  the 
other  very  liuely  describing  how  seditious  estates 
with  their  owne  deuices,  false  friends  with  their 
own  swoordes,  and  rebellious  commons  in  their 
own  snares,  are  ouerthrowne :  neither  with  amorous 
gesture  wounding  the  eye,  nor  with  slouenly  talke 
hurting  the  eares  of  the  chast  hearers.  The  Blacke 
Smiths  daughter  and  Catilins  conspiracies  vsually 
brought  in  to  the  theater  j  the  firste  contayning  the 
trechary  of  Turkes,  the  honourable  bountye  of  a 
noble  minde,  and  the  shining  of  vertue  in  distresse ; 
the  last,  because  it  was  knowne  to  be  a  pig  of  mine 
owne  sowe,  I  will  speake  the  Icsse  of  it,  onely  piuing 


214  NINTH  CONVERSATION". 

you  to  vnderstand  that  the  whole  marke  which  I 
shot  at  in  that  woorke  was  to  showe  the  rewarde  of 
traytors  in  Catilin,  and  the  necessary  gouernment  of 
learned  men  in  the  person  of  Cicero,  which  foresees 
euery  danger  that  is  likely  to  happen  and  forstalles 
it  continually  ere  it  take  effect." 

MORTON.  He  only  mentions  here  "  Catiline's  Con- 
spiracies" as  "  a  pig  of  his  own  sow"  (most  elegant 
phraseology  to  be  sure),  but  he  says  nothing  of  his 
Comedy  nor  of  his  Morality. 

BOURNE.  They  have  been  assigned  to  Gosson  on 
other  authorities,  which  it  might  be  tedious  to 
enumerate.  He  was  also  a  pastoral  poet,  according 
to  the  account  of  Francis  Meres,  who  mentions 
Gosson's  name  in  conjunction  with  that  of  Spenser. 
Wood  also  bears  testimony  that  he  was  celebrated 
"  for  his  admirable  penning  of  pastorals  •"  there  are 
but  two  poems  by  Gosson  now  known,  and  only  one 
of  them  is  noticed  by  Ritson. 

MORTON.  Can  you  show  us  either  of  them  ?  We 
might  thus  perhaps  form  some  notion  of  his  talents 
as  a  poet. 

BOURNE.  I  can  show  you  both,  but  one  of  them 
consists  merely  of  commendatory  stanzas  prefixed 
to  "  The  pleasant  Historic  of  the  conquest  of  the 
Weast  India,"  by  Thos.  Nicholas,  printed  in  1 578  : 
the  first  stanza  of  it  is  very  curious,  as  it  plainly  has 
an  allusion  to  what  you  called  Gosson's  tergiversa- 
tion, for  here  he  laments  "  the  follies  of  his  youth," 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  215 

•when  he  devoted  his  time  to  the  idleness  of  poetry. 
The  rest,  though  easily  written,  as  if  by  a  pen  of 
some  practice,  is  little  more  than  an  enlargement  of 
the  thought  contained  in  the  first  six  lines. 

"  The  Poet  which  sometimes  hath  trod  awry, 
And  sung  in  verse  the  force  of  firie  loue, 

When  he  beholds  his  lute  with  carefull  eye, 

Thinks  on  the  dumps  that  he  was  wont  to  proue : 

His  groning  sprite  yprickt  with  tender  ruth 

Calls  then  to  mind  the  follies  of  his  youth." 

MORTON.  These  lines  were  printed,  you  say,  in 
1578,  probably  then  shortly  before  Gosson  published 
his  "  Schoole  of  Abuse." 

BOURNE.  Most  likely,  and  after  he  had  again 
taken  up  his  residence  at  Oxford  to  prepare  himself 
for  the  church. 

ELLIOT.  The  lines  are  not  amiss,  and  the  allusion 
to  the  sight  of  his  lute  bringing  his  youthful  follies 
to  his  recollection  is  rather  pretty.  From  whence 
do  you  take  the  other  specimen  of  Gosson's  skill  in 
poetry  > 

BOURNE.  From  a  translation  by  a  person  of  the 
name  of  H.  Kirton,  called  "  The  Mirror  of  Mans 
life,"  dedicated  to  Anne,  Countess  of  Pembroke,  and 
published  in  1580.  The  book  is  rarely  to  be  met  with. 
If  Gosson  wrote  no  better  when  he  was  younger, 
it  is  strange  how  he  acquired  the  reputation  he  un- 
doubtedly obtained.  But  you  shall  hear  the  poem, 


216  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

which  is  original,  is  not  very  long,  and  has  not  any 
where  been  extracted.     It  is  called, 

"  Speculum  humanum ; 
Made  by  Ste.  Gosson. 

O  what  is  man  ?  or  whereof  might  he  vaunt  > 
From  earth  and  aire,  and  ashes  first  he  came : 
His  tickle  state,  his  courage  ought  to  daunt : 
His  life  shall  flit,  when  most  he  trusts  the  same. 
Then  keepe  in  minde  thy  moolde  and  fickle  stamej 
Thyself  a  naked  Adam  shalt  thou  finde : 
A  babe  by  birth  both  borne  and  brought  forth  blind : 

A  drie  and  withered  reede,  that  wanteth  sap, 
Whose  rotten  roote  is  refte,  euen  at  a  clap : 

A  signe,  a  shew  of  greene  and  pleasant  grasse 
Whose  glyding  glorie  sodeinlie  doth  passe. 

A  lame  and  lothsome  limping  legged  wight 
That  daily  doth  Gods  frowne  and  furie  feele, 
A  crooked  cripple,  voide  of  all  delight, 
That  haleth  after  him  an  haulting  heele, 
And  from  Hierusalem  on  stilts  doth  reele : 
A  wretch  of  wrath,  a  sop  in  sorrow  sowst, 
A  brused  barke  with  billowes  all  bedowst, 

A  filthie  cloth,  a  stinking  clod  of  clay, 
A  sacke  of  sinne  that  shall  be  swallowed  aye 

Of  thousand  hels,  except  the  Lord  do  lend 
His  helping  hand,  and  lowring  browes  vnbend. 
The  prime  of  youth,  whose  greene  vnmellowd  yeres 
With  hoised  head  doth  check  the  loftie  Skies, 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  217 

And  set  vp  saile,  and  sternlesse  ships  ysteares, 
With  wind  and  wave  at  pleasure  sure  he  flies  : 
On  euery  side  then  glance  his  rolling  eies : 
Yet  hoary  haires  do  cause  them  downe  to  drowp, 
And  stealing  steps  of  age  do  make  him  stoup. 

Our  health  that  doth  the  web  of  wo  begin, 
And  pricketh  forth  our  pampred  flesh  to  sin, 

By  sicknesse  soakt  in  many  maladies, 
Shall  turne  our  mirthe  to  mone,  and  howling  cries. 

The  wreathed  haire  of  perfect  golden  wire, 
The  christall  eies,  the  shining  Angels  face 
That  kindles  coales  to  set  the  heart  on  fire, 
When  we  doe  thinke  to  runne  a  royall  race, 
Shall  sodeinlie  be  gauled  with  disgrace ; 
Our  goods,  our  beautie,  and  our  braue  araie, 
That  seemes  to  set  our  hearts  on  hoigh  for  aie, 

Much  like  the  tender  floure  in  fragrant  fields, 
Whose  sugred  sap  sweet  smelling  sauour  yeelds, 

Though  we  therein  doe  dailie  laie  our  lust, 
By  dint  of  death  shall  vanish  vnto  dust. 

Why  seeke  ye  then  this  lingring  life  to  saue, 
A  hugie  heape  of  bale  and  miserie  ? 
Why  loue  we  longer  daies  on  earth  to  craue, 
Where  carke,  and  care,  and  all  calamitie, 
Where  nought  we  finde  but  bitter  ioylitie  ? 
The  longer  that  we  Hue,  the  more  we  fall, 
The  more  we  fall,  the  greater  is  our  thrall, 


218  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

The  shorter  life  doth  make  the  lesse  account, 
To  lesse  account  the  reckning  soone  doth  mount, 

And  then  the  reckning  brought  to  quiet  end, 
A  ioyfull  state  of  better  life  doth  lend. 

Thou  God  therefore  that  rules  the  rolling  Skie, 
Thou  Lord  that  lends  the  props  whereon  we  stale, 
And  turnes  the  spheares,  and  tempers  all  on  hie, 
Come,  come  in  hast,  to  take  vs  hence  awaie ! 
Thy  goodnesse  shall  we  then  engraue  for  aie, 
And  sing  a  song  of  endlesse  thankes  to  thee, 
That  deignest  so  from  death  to  set  vs  free : 

Redeeming  vs  from  depth  of  dark  decaie, 
With  foure  and  twentie  Elders  shall  we  saie, 

To  him  be  glorie,  power,  and  praise  alone, 
That  with  the  lambe  doth  sit  in  loftie  throne. 

Finis." 

ELLIOT.  I  have  had  something  to  do  to  keep  my 
patience  till  you  arrived  at  the  word  Finis.  I  began  to 
be  tired  of  such  stale  sermonizing  when  you  had  read 
two  stanzas  -,  but  the  opening  of  the  third  pleased 
me,  and  certainly  it  is  not  so  bad  as  what  precedes  it. 

MORTON.  I  confess  I  wondered  how  you  restrained 
your  impetuosity,  but  I  suppose  the  recollection  that 
this  is  the  only  original  poem  known  (with  the  ex- 
ception of  the  commendatory  verses  before  noticed), 
by  a  man  of  Gosson's  celebrity,  restrained  you. 

ELLIOT.  Not  at  all :  if  an  author  write  dull  non- 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  219 

sense,  the  more  rare  it  is  the  better,  nor  do  I  feel 
myself  at  all  more  bound  to  hear  it  merely  because 
it  is  rare. 

BOURNE.  It  cannot  be  said  that  Gosson's  lines  are 
not  generally  flowing  and  harmonious,  and  if  the 
morality  be  stale,  we  ought  to  recollect  that  it  is 
now  nearly  250  years  old.  In  that  time  it  might 
well  become  so. 

ELLIOT.  Now  it  is  done,  I  do  not  mean  to  say 
that  I  regret  having  heard  it ;  some  of  the  lines  run 
well  enough,  but 

"  A  filthie  cloth,  a  stinking  clod  of  clay, 
A  sack  of  sin  that  shall  be  swallow'd  aye," 

are  absurd  enough,  and  those  lines  are  not  without 
"  companions  vile  to  keep  them  countenance." 

BOURNE.  It  does  not  merit  very  minute  criticism, 
and  having  read  all  that  is  necessary  from  "  the 
Schoole  of  Abuse,"  we  will  now  look  at  the  "  short 
Apologie"  for  it,  (as  far  as  it  really  deserves  the  term) 
which  is  contained  in  a  work  by  Gosson  of  severe 
puritanism,  called  "  The  Ephemerides  of  Phialo  de- 
luded into  three  books."  The  last  book  only  con- 
cerns our  inquiry,  which  contains  "  the  Defence  of 
a  Courtezan  ouerthrowen :  and  a  short  Apologie  of 
the  Schoole  of  Abuse  against  Poets,  Pipers,  Players 
and  their  excusers."  It  was  first  printed  in  1579, 
and  again  in  1586';  in  both  cases,  as  I  have  said, 
with  a  dedication  to  Sir  P.  Sidney. 


220  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  Who  had  become  the  excusers  of  the 
players,  &c.  as  he  mentions  r 

BOURNE.  Gosson  says  that  the  players  had  en- 
deavoured to  find  a  vindicator  in  one  of  the  uni- 
versities, and  he  had  heard  that  they  had  at  last 
actually  employed  some  person  in  London  to  write 
"  Honest  Excuses"  for  them.  This  alludes  to  a  tract 
by  Thomas  Lodge,  of  which  I  will  speak  presently. 
A  few  sentences  from  this  "  Apologie"  by  Gosson 
will  satisfy  all  reasonable  curiosity.  He  says  in  one 
place,  "  A  theefe  is  a  shrewde  member  in  a  Com- 
mon wealth  ',  he  empties  our  bagges  by  force,  these" 
(meaning  players)  "  ransacke  our  purses  by  per- 
mission ;  he  spoileth  vs  secretly,  these  rifle  vs  openly  j 
hee  getts  the  vpperhand  by  blowes,  these  by  merry 
iestes  ;  he  suckes  our  blood,  these  our  manners  j  he 
woundes  our  bodie,  these  our  soule."  Aud  thus 
having  wound  himself  up  to  an  antithetical  climax,  he 
exclaims,  with  all  the  affected  and  furious  zeal  of  a 
Puritan,  "  O  God,  O  men,  O  heauen,  O  earth,  O 
tymes,  O  manners,  O  miserable  daies  !" 

ELLIOT.  All  this  must  seem  to  us  nothing  short 
of  absolute  madness  j  with  our  present  notions  we 
cannot  form  an  idea  why  the  unhappy  players  should 
excite  such  deadly  animosity,  and  call  down  such 
terrific  anathemas. 

BOURNE.  It  is  astonishing;  but  nothing  better  than 
such  publications  as  these  let  us  into  a  knowledge 
of  the  religious  spirit  of  the  times.  Pursuing  hia 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  2<21 

contrast  between  a  thief  and  a  player,  Gosson  adds, 
with  much  solemnity,  "  He  suffereth  for  his  offence ; 
these  stroute  without  punishment  vnder  our  noses, 
and  lyke  vnto  a  consuming  fire  are  nourished  stil 
with  our  decay."  This  pretended  "  Apologie"  is,  in 
truth,  nothing  but  a  reiteration  of  the  first  attack, 
and  it  ends  in  these  words ;  "  Wishing  to  my  schoole 
some  thriftier  scholers,  to  players  an  honester  oc- 
cupation, and  their  excuser  a  better  minde,  I  take 
my  leave." 

ELLIOT.  And  we  have  had  enough  of  his  company 
not  to  regret  his  departure.  You  said,  I  think,  that 
Gosson  wrote  three  pieces  against  the  stage,  and 
you  have  noticed  two :  what  is  the  third  ? 

BOURNE.  It  is  called  "  Playes  confuted  in  five 
actions,  prouing  that  they  are  not  to  be  suffred  in  a 
Christian  Commonweale."  This  is  a  sermonizing 
production,  and  is  divided  like  a  play,  into  five  acts 
or  actions,  and  dedicated  to  Sir  F.  Walsingham.  It 
has  no  date  upon  the  title,  but  Prynne  fixes  it  about 
1581,  and  from  what  I  am  going  next  to  offer  it 
should  seem  that  he  is  correct.  I  should  observe, 
that  in  Reed's  Shakespeare  you  will  find  sufficient 
quotations  from  this  last  tract  by  Gosson. 

MORTON.  What  next  then  are  you  going  to  offer  ? 

BOURNE.  A  book  to  which  you  must  allow  me  to 
make  a  preface  of  my  own,  to  render  its  application 
clear.  In  1579  Gosson  printed  his  "  School  of 
Abuse,"  and  in  the  same  year  his  f(  Ephemerides  of 
Phialo,"  containing  the  "  short  Apology,"  and  hinting 


222  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

that  an  answer  to  the  "  School  of  Abuse"  had  been 
written  by  some  person  in  London.  This  answer 
was  in  fact  written  by  Thomas  Lodge,  and  is  the 
tract  which  is  called,  in  Beauclerc's  Catalogue, 
"  Maister  Tho.  Lodge  his  reply  to  Steph.  Gosson 
touching  playes."  That  copy  was  without  a  title, 
and  the  tract  is  perhaps  the  very  rarest  of  the  rare 
pieces  relating  to  the  stage  :  Mr.  Malone  could  never 
obtain  a  sight  of  it.  You  will  presently  learn  the 
reason  why  it  is  so  :  a  more  perfect  copy,  however, 
does,  they  say,  exist,  and  it  is  called  "  The  Play  of 
Playes,"  but  the  date  has  not  been  hitherto  ascer- 
tained. 

MORTON.  And  it  contains  the  "  honest  excuses," 
spoken  of  by  Gosson  in  his  "  Ephemerides  of  Phialo  r" 

BOURNE.  It  does,  and  that  mention  of  it  seems  to 
fix  the  date,  supported  as  it  is  by  the  most  curious 
and  important  tract  I  now  hold  in  my  hand.  You 
will  not  forget  that  Gosson's  "  Plays  confuted  in 
five  actions,"  came  out  probably  in  1581,  dedicated 
to  Sir  F.  Walsingham,  and  that  it  contained  a  severe 
and  abusive  attack  upon  Lodge. 

ELLIOT.  You  excite  one's  curiosity :  what  is  the 
tract  in  your  hand  ? 

BOURNE.  I  owe  the  use  of  it  to  the  same  liberal 
professor  to  whom  I  was  indebted  for  Micro-cynicon, 
and  I  do  not  over-rate  it  when  I  say  that  it  is,  on 
every  account,  one  of  the  most  valuable  tracts  exist- 
ing. One  peculiar  source  of  its  curiosity  does  not 
appear  on  the  title-page,  which  is  thus  worded:, 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  223 

"  An  Alarum  against  Vsurers.  Containing  tryed  ex- 
periences against  worldly  abuses.  Wherein  gentle- 
men may  finde  good  counsells  to  confirme  them, 
and  pleasant  Histories  to  delight  them :  and  euery 
thing  interlaced  with  varietie,  as  the  curious  may 
be  satisfied  with  the  rarenesse,  and  the  curteous 
with  the  pleasure.  Hereunto  are  annexed  the.  de- 
lectable historic  of  Forbonius  and  Prisceria:  with 
the  lamentable  Complaint  of  Truth  ouer  England. 
Written  by  Thomas  Lodge,  of  Lincolnes  Inne,  Gen- 
tleman. Ovita!  misero  longa,  fcclici  breuis.  Im- 
printed at  London  by  T.  Este,  for  Sampson  Clarke," 
&c.  1584, 

MORTON.  The  title  is  sufficiently  particular.  I  dare 
say  the  work  is  very  rare,  but  now  let  us  into  the 
secret  of  the  extraordinary  emphasis  you  laid  upon 
its  especial  value. 

BOURNE.  Its  especial  value,  as  connected  with  the 
immediate  subject  of  our  inquiry,  is  confined  to  the 
preliminary  matter  5  but  the  nature  and  variety  of 
the  body  of  this  hitherto  unseen  pamphlet,  consist- 
ing of  prose  and  poetry  (the  latter  I  think  of  great 
merit),  form  most  important  recommendations.  The 
dedication  is  to  Sir  Philip  Sidney,  "  indued  with 
all  perfections  of  learning  and  titles  of  Nobilitie," 
who  refused  to  accept  the  dedication  of  Gosson, 
and  whom  Lodge  solicits  to  protect  him  "  in 
these  Primordia  of  my  studies,"  so  that  perhaps  this 
"  Alarum  against  Usurers"  was  only  the  second 


224  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

time  Lodge  had  appeared  in  print,  his  answer  to 
Gosson  being  his  first  essay. 

ELLIOT.  At  all  events,  it  was  one  of  his  very  early 
productions.  Does  the  dedication  comprize  any 
thing  else  remarkable  ? 

BOURNE.  No,  excepting  that  in  the  conclusion  he 
again  speaks  of  the  hoped  for  "  successe  of  this  my 
firstlings."  What  I  particularly  call  your  attention 
to  is  an  address,  following  the  dedication,  "  To  The 
Right  worshipfull,  my  curteous  friends,  the  Gen- 
tlemen of  the  Innes  of  Court,  Thomas  Lodge  of 
Lincolnes  Inne  Gentleman,  wisheth  prosperous  suc- 
cesse in  their  studies,  and  happie  euent  in  their  tra- 
uailes."  I  will  omit  a  preliminary  sentence  or  two, 
and  you  will  soon  see  why  this  epistle  is  important : 
he  says,  "  Led  then  by  these  perswasions,  I  doubt 
not  but  as  I  haue  alwayes  found  you  fauourable,  so 
now  you  will  not  cease  to  be  friendly,  both  in  pro- 
tecting of  this  iust  cause  from  uniust  slander,  and  my 
person  from  that  reproch  which,  about  two  yeares 
since,  an  iniurious  cauiller  obiected  against  me. 
You  that  know  me,  Gentlemen,  can  testifie  that 
neyther  my  life  hath  bene  so  lewd  as  yl  my  companie 
was  odious,  nor  my  behauiour  so  light  as  that  it 
shuld  passe  the  limits  of  modestie :  this  notwith- 
standing, a  licentious  Hipponax,  neither  regarding 
the  asperitie  of  the  lawes  touching  slaunderous  Li- 
bellers, nor  the  offspring  from  whence  I  came,  which 
is  not  contemptible,  attempted  not  only  in  publike 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  225 

and  reprochfull  terms  to  condemn  me  in  his  writings, 
but  also  so  to  slander  me  as  neither  iustice  shuld 
wink  at  so  hainous  an  offece,  nor  I  pretermit  a  com- 
modious reply." 

ELLIOT.  You  infer  then  that  Lodge  there  alludes 
to  Gosson  >  It  is  certainly  curious. 

BOURNE.  I  do  not  infer  it,  because  the  very  next  sen- 
tence states  it  most  distinctly.  "  About  three  yeres 
ago  (continues  Lodge)  one  Stephen  Gosson  published 
a  booke,  intituled  The  Schoole  of  Abuse,  in  which 
hauing  escaped  in  many  and  sundry  exclusions,  I, 
as  the  occasion  the  fitted  me,  shapt  him  such  an 
answere  as  beseemed  his  discourse,  which  by  reason 
of  the  slendernes  of  ye  subiect  (because  it  was  in 
defece  of  plaies  and  play  makers)  ye  godly  and  re- 
uerent,  yl.  had  to  deale  in  the  cause,  misliking  it 
forbad  the  publishing :  notwithstanding  he  comming 
by  a  priuate  vnperfect  coppye,  about  two  yeres  since, 
made  a  reply,  diuiding  it  into  fiue  sectios." 

MORTON.  That  is  very  clear  indeed,  and  satis- 
factorily accounts  for  the  extreme  scarcity  of  Lodge's 
"  Play  of  Plays  5"  he  says  it  was  not  published,  but 
it  must  have  been  printed,  or  a  copy  would  not  have 
come  down  to  us,  or  got  into  Gosson's  hands :  after 
it  had  gone  through  the  press,  I  suppose  it  was 
called  in  by  order  of  the  Archbishop  of  Canterbury, 
and  the  Bishop  of  London  ? 

ELLIOT.  They  had  jurisdiction  in  these  matters, 

VOL.  II.  Q 


226  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

and  ordered  the  burning  of  Marston's  satires,  and 
that  no  others  should  be  printed. 

BOURNE.  They  exercised  the  same  power  in  several 
other  well  known  cases.  Gosson's  reply,  divided  "  into 
fiue  sections,"  is  indisputably  his  "  Plays  confuted 
in  fiue  actions,"  dedicated  to  Sir  F.  Walsingham; 
indeed  Lodge  goes  on  himself  to  particularise  it,  for 
he  says  immediately  after  what  I  last  read  j  "  and 
in  his  Epistle  dedicatory,  to  yc  right  honorable  sir 
Frances  Walsingham,  he  impugneth  me  with  these 
reproches,  yl  I  am  become  a  vagarat  person,  visited 
by  ye  heuy  hand  of  God,  lighter  then  libertie,  and 
looser  the  vanitie.  At  such  time  as  I  first  came  to 
ye  sight  heerof  (iudge  you,  gentlemen,  how  hardly 
I  could  disgest  it)  I  bethought  my  selfe  to  frame  an 
answere,  but  considering  yl.  the  labour  was  but  lost, 
I  gaue  way  to  my  misfortune,  contenting  iny  selfe  to 
wait  ye  opportunitie  wherein  I  might,  not  according 
to  the  impertinacie  of  the  iniurye,  but  as  equitye 
might  countenance  mee,  cast  a  raine  ouer  the  vn- 
tamed  curtailes  chaps,  and  wiping  out  the  suspition 
of  this  slander  from  the  remebrance  of  those  yl  knew 
me,  not  counsell  this  iniurious  Asinius  to  become 
more  conformable  in  his  reportes."  After  adding 
that  such  an  opportunity  now  offers  itself,  he  goes 
on  thus  pleasantly  and  easily :  ' '  And  now,  Stephen 
Gosson,  let  me  but  familiarly  reason  with  thee  thus. 
Thinkest  thou  yl  in  handling  a  good  cause  it  is  re- 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  227 

quisite  to  induce  a  fals  propositio:  although  thou 
wilt  say  it  is  a  part  of  Rethorike  to  argue  A  Persona, 
yet  is  it  a  practise  of  small  honestie  to  conclude 
without  occasion:  if  thy  cause  wer  good,  I  doubt 
not  but  in  so  large  &  ample  a  discourse  as  thou  hadst 
to  handle,  thou  mightst  had  left  the  honor  of  a 
gentleman  inuiolate.  But  thy  base  degree,  subiect 
to  seruile  attempts,  measureth  all  things  according 
to  cauelling  capacitie,  thinking  because  nature  hath 
bestowed  vpo  thee  a  plausible  discourse,  thou  maist 
in  thy  sweet  termes  present  the  sowrest  &  falsest 
reportes  yu  canst  imagine." 

MORTON.  Lodge  does  not  seem  disposed  to  retort 
upon  Gosson  much  of  the  abuse  he  had  not  scrupled 
to  heap  upon  Lodge. 

BOURNE.  He  deals  with  Gosson  very  good  hu- 
mouredly,  telling  a  story  (and  citing  Petrarch  as  his 
authority),  of  a  nobleman  who  went  into  a  gentle- 
man's stable,  and  was  struck  by  the  servant,  who  did 
not  know  his  rank  on  account  of  "  his  plaine  coat," 
but  who  afterwards  most  humbly  apologized  when 
he  saw  the  gentleman,  to  his  great  astonishment, 
dining  with  his  master :  Lodge  applies  it  thus.  "  So  at 
this  instant  esteeme  I,  M.  Gosson  hath  dealt  with  me, 
who  not  mesuring  me  by  my  birth,  but  by  ye  subiect 
I  hadled,  like  Will  Summer  striking  him  y'  stood 
next  him,  hath  vpbraided  me  in  person  whe  he  had 
no  quarrell  but  to  my  cause,  &  therein  pleaded  his 
owne  indiscretio,  &  loded  me  with  intolerable  in- 


228  NINTH  CONVERSATION: 

iurie."  All  this  you  will  not  deny  is  very  remarkable, 
and  well  worth  reading,  more  particularly  as  the 
tract  was  scarcely  ever  heard  of  before. 

MORTON.  Most  assuredly  in  a  biographical  point 
of  view,  and  as  connected  with  the  history  of  the 
stage,  it  is  highly  interesting.  But  what  does  Lodge 
mean  by  talking  so  much  about  his  "  birth,"  and 
the  "  offspring  from  whence  he  came?" 

ELLIOT.  It  is  clear  enough  j  he  claims  to  be  de- 
scended of  a  good  family. 

BOURNE.  Certainly,  yet  nothing  of  his  family  is 
known  -,  but  it  is  said  that  he  came  out  of  Lincoln- 
shire. There  is  a  small  12mo  tract,  called  "  The 
Mirror  of  Modesty"  (different  from  Robert  Greene's, 
and  probably  published  soon  afterwards  in  imitation 
of  his  title),  by  T.  Salter,  which  is  dedicated  to 
Sir  Thomas  Lodge  j  and  it  is  not  impossible  that 
Thomas  Lodge  the  poet  was  of  that  family :  but  this 
is  mere  vague  conjecture,  and  I  have  nothing  at  all 
to  confirm  it. 

MORTON.  Does  Lodge  say  no  more  about  Gosson 
than  what  you  have  read  ? 

BOURNE.  Yes 5  after  two  or  three  classical  al- 
lusions, rather  in  the  pedantic  style  of  the  times, 
comparing  him  to  Nicanor,  he  concludes  by  again 
complimenting  Gosson  on  his  facility  in  composition. 
"  Whose  actions,  my  reprouer,  I  will  now  fit  to  thee, 
who  hauing  slandered  me  without  cause,  I  will  no 
otherwise  reuenge  it  but  by  this  meanes ;  that  now 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  229 

in  publike  I  confesse  thou  hast  a  good  pen,  and  if 
thou  keepe  thy  Methode  in  discourse,  and  leaue  thy 
slandering  without  cause,  there  is  no  doubt  but  thou 
shalt  bee  commended  for  thy  coppye,  and  praised 
for  thy  stile."  Now  I  have  a  right  to  say,  that  this 
is  an  important  tract,  and  not  the  less  so  because  its 
peculiar  value  was,  not  known  before. 

ELLIOT.  The  whole  of  the  address  places  Lodge's 
character  in  a  very  candid  and  amiable  point  of  view. 

MORTON.  And  making  a  few  allowances,  it  is 
written  in  a  very  unpretending  and  pleasing  vein. 
It  makes  one  long  to  look  at  the  body  of  the  tract 
such  an  epistle  introduces. 

BOURNE.  If  you  please,  we  will  not  do  so  now,  as 
it  would  throw 'us  completely  out  of  our  course: 
suppose  we  reserve  it  as  the  first  subject  of  examina- 
tion to-morrow. 

MORTON.  Following  it  up  by  a  conclusion  of  our 
inquiries  regarding  the  stage — with  all  my  heart. 

ELLIOT.  And  mine ;  but  just  this  moment,  on  the 
page  opposite  to  that  where  Lodge's  address  con- 
cludes, my  eye  caught  the  name  of  Barnabe  Rich,  hi 
large  characters — what  is  that  ? 

BOURNE.  He  has  two  stanzas  "  in  praise  of  the 
author."  They  were  friends,  and  Lodge  in  the  same 
way  praises  Rich's  "  Don  Simonides,"  1581.  The 
lines  before  us  purport  to  be  written  by  "  Barnabe 
Rich,  Gentleman  Souldier,"  a  character  of  which  he 
was  not  a  little  proud :  they  are  not  good,  but  as 


230  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

they  relate  to  Gosson,  and,  in  fact,  contain  a  pun  on 

his  name,  we  may  very  fitly  read  them  now. 

"  If  that  which  warnes  the  young  beware  of  vice, 

And  schooles  the  olde  to  shunne  vnlawfull  gaine  j 
If  pleasant  stile  and  method  may  suffice, 

I  thinke  thy  trauaile  merits  thanks  for  paine : 
My  simple  doome  is  thus  in  tearmes  as  plaine  j 
That  both  the  subiect  and  thy  stile  is  good, 
Thou  needs  not  feare  the  scoflfes  of  Momus  brood. 

"  If  thus  it  be,  good  Lodge,  continue  still ; 

Thou  needst  not  feare  Goose  sonne  or  Ganders 
hisse, 

Whose  rude  reportes  past  from  a  slaundrous  quill, 
Will  be  determind  but  in  reading  this, 
Of  whom  the  wiser  sort  will  thinke  amis, 

To  slaunder  him  whose  birth  and  life  is  such 

As  false  report  his  fame  can  neuer  tuch." 

ELLIOT.  Much  cannot  be  said  in  favour  of  Rich's 
pun,  yet  I  dare  say  it  answered  the  purpose. 

BOURNE.  It  might  turn  the  laugh  against  Gosson 
for  a  time,  though  not  quite  so  good  as  Tom  Nash's 
pun,  when  in  his  "  Lenten  Stuff,"  1599,  he  dignifies 
a  red  herring  with  the  name  of  Scali-ger.  Five 
other  stanzas,  prefixed  by  "  John  Jones  Gentleman," 
are  not  worth  reading:  he  was  a  physician,  and 
wrote  several  medical  tracts,  and  calls  Lodge,  in 
1584,  "  a  youth."  We  will  now  close  the  "  Alarum 
against  Usurers"  until  to  morrow. 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  231 

MORTON.  On  turning  over  the  leaves  of  the  two 
first  books  of  Gosson's  "  Ephemerides  of  Phialo," 
1579, 1  have  found  a  short  metrical  translation  from 
Ovid  without  rhyme.  He  has  therefore  some  claim 
to  be  noticed  among  the  earliest  writers  of  blank 
verse. 

BOURNE.  lie  has,  but  that  is  a  mere  scrap,  which 
I  certainly  forgot  when  we  were  upon  that  subject. 
I,  however,  made  a  more  important  omission  of 
Queen  Elizabeth,  who  has  translated  a  chorus  of  one 
of  Seneca's  tragedies  into  blank  verse,  though  it 
hardly  comes  within  the  class  of  undramatic  blank 
verse.  You  will  find  it  inserted  in  Park's  "  Royal 
and  Noble  Authors/'  1. 102,  so  that  the  circumstance 
was  of  the  less  consequence. 

ELLIOT.  Dismissing  that,  what  tract  respecting 
stage  plays  are  we  next  to  see  ? 

BOURNE.  One  which  is  interspersed  with  more 
poetical  scraps  than  are  usually  found  in  works  of 
the  kind,  though  no  blank  verse.  Chaucer  and 
Brandt's  "  Stultifera  Navis  in  English,"  are  cited  in 
it  as  authorities.  The  title  is  sufficiently  explanatory, 
"  A  Treatise  wherein  Dicing,  Dauncing,  Vaine  playes 
or  Enterluds  with  other  idle  pastimes  &c.  commonly 
vsed  on  the  Sabboth  day  are  reproued,"  &c.  "  Made 
Dialogue  wise  by  John  Northbrooke,"  &c.  4to. 

MORTON.  That,  I  apprehend,  is  one  of  the  most 
notorious  of  the  pieces  against  the  stage. 

BOURNE.  It  has  not  been  unfrequently  alluded  to, 


232  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

but  never  criticised.  It  was  first  printed,  I  believe, 
in  1579,  and  was  sold  by  the  same  bookseller  as 
Gosson's  tract,  Tho.  Dawson.  The  edition  I  have 
here  is  of  greater  rarity,  and  is  "  imprinted  by  H. 
Bynneman  for  George  Byshop." 

ELLIOT.  The  title  states  that  it  is  conducted  in 
the  form  of  a  dialogue :  that  may  give  it  spirit  and 
variety. 

BOURNE.  As  the  interlocutors  are  Youth  and  Age, 
you  will  not  be  induced  to  form  a  very  lively  notion 
of  their  discussion.  Youth  is  represented  as  a  very 
docile,  well  dispositioned  young  man,  who  has  got  a 
few  wrong  notions  into  his  head,  which  Age  endea- 
vours to  expel.  The  author  was  a  preacher  at  Bristol, 
from  whence  he  dates  his  work,  and  it  is  unquestion- 
able that  he  was  a  man  of  very  considerable  attain- 
ments. In  the  prefatory  matter  he  draws  the  follow- 
ing curious  but  exaggerated  picture  of  the  manners 
of  his  time :  "  What  is  a  man  now  a  dayes,  if  he 
know  not  fashions,  and  how  to  weare  his  apparel 
after  the  best  fashion?  to  kepe  company  and  to  be- 
come Mummers  and  Diceplayers  and  to  play  their 
twentie,  forty  or  100  li.  at  Cards,  Dice,  &c.  Post, 
Cente,  Gleke,  or  such  other  games:  if  he  cannot 
thus  do  he  is  called  a  myser,  a  wretch,  a  lobbe,  a 
cloune,  and  one  that  knoweth  no  fellowship,  nor 
fashions,  and  lesse  honestie." 

ELLIOT.  If  that  be  a  fair  specimen,  he  deals  as 
much  as  his  predecessor  Gosson  in  general  invectives. 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  233 

BOURNE.  Not  quite ;  he  enters  more  into  par- 
ticulars as  he  proceeds,  after  the  conversation  be- 
tween Youth  and  Age  has  begun.  The  first  part  of 
the  pamphlet  is  principally  directed  against  idleness, 
and  the  arguments  of  Age  are  supported  by  many 
recondite  authorities :  at  length  Youth  observes, 
"  Seing  that  we  haue  somewhat  largely  talked  and 
reasoned  togither  of  ydle  playes  and  vaine  pastimes, 
let  me  craue  your  further  patience  to  knowe  your 
iudgement  and  opinion  as  touching  Playes  and  Players 
which  are  commonly  vsed  and  much  frequented  in 
most  places  in  these  dayes,  especiallye  here  in  this 
noble  and  honourable  citie  of  London."  To  which 
Age  answers,  "  You  demaunde  of  me  a  harde  ques- 
tion: if  I  should  vtterly  deny  all  kinde  of  suche 
playes,  then  shoulde  I  be  thought  too  Stoicall  and 
precise  :  If  I  allowe  and  admit  them  in  generall  then 
I  shall  giue  way  to  a  thousande  mischiefes  and  in- 
conueniences  which  daily  happen  by  occasion  of 
beholding  and  haunting  such  spectacles.  Therfore 
let  me  vnderstande  of  what  sort  and  kynde  of  Playes 
you  speake  of?" 

MORTON.  All  these  particulars  are  curious  and 
entertaining,  and  show  that  at  the  time  Northbrooke 
wrote,  theatres  were  much  more  frequented  than  is 
generally  supposed. 

BOURNE.  This  author,  in  terms,  mentions  one  play- 
house distinguished  by  the  name  of  "  the  theatre," 
and  another  called  "  the  Curtaine."  Youth  requires 
Age  to  give  his  opinion  regarding  the  "  playes  and 


234  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

Enterludes"  there  performed,  and  Age  replies  with 
great  warmth,  "  I  am  persuaded  that  Sathan  hath  not 
a  more  speedie  way  and  fitter  Schoole  to  work  and 
teache  his  desire,  to  bring  men  and  women  into  his 
snare,"  &c.  following  it  up  by  an  enumeration  of  the 
many  horrible  vices  he  imagines  grow  out  of  fre- 
quenting theatres.  As  to  the  actors,  he  insists  that 
"  they  are  not  tollerable  nor  sufferable  in  any  comon 
weale."  This  topic  is  kept  up  through  many  tedious 
pages  of  reiterated  abuse. 

ELLIOT.  Neither  knowledge  nor  amusement  is  to 
be  obtained  from  such  senseless  ravings. 

BOURNE.  Unless  we  can  laugh  at  the  author:  Age 
engrosses  a  great  part  of  the  conversation,  and  after 
a  vast  number  of  coarse  names  and  epithets  applied 
to  unfortunate  players,  he  winds  up  a  detail  of  mea- 
sures taken  against  them  by  the  subsequent  sentence, 
"  Also  there  is  a  notable  Statute  made  against  Vaga- 
bondes,  Roges,  &c.  wherein  is  expressed  what  they 
are,  that  shall  bee  taken  and  accounted  for  Roges. 
Amongst  all  the  whole  rablement,  Common  players 
in  Enterludes  are  to  be  taken  for  Roges  and  punish- 
ment is  appoynted  for  them  to  bee  burnte  through 
the  eare  with  an  hote  yron  of  an  ynche  compasse 
and  for  the  second  fault  to  be  hanged  as  a  Felon." 

MORTON.  Alluding  to  the  celebrated  statute  passed 
in  the  year  1572. 

ELLIOT.  Of  course.  The  old  zealot  seems  quite 
to  gloat  over  the  account  he  is  giving  of  the  punish- 
ment of  a  wretched  actor,  "  to  be  burnt  through  the 


N7INTH  CONVERSATION.  235 

ear  with  a  hot  iron  of  an  inch  compass."  He  attacks 
them  all,  with  a  perfect  conviction  that  the  whole 
race  ought  to  be  exterminated,  Parli  chi  vuulc  il  con- 
trario,  Iddio  et  la  Verita  per  me  I'arme  prenderanno. 

MORTON.  In  this  respect  he  even  goes  beyond 
Gosson,  who  allows  that  some  kinds  of  plays  may 
be  beneficial,  or,  at  least,  not  injurious. 

BOURNE.  He  would  not  have  granted  that,  in  all 
probability,  had  not  Catiline's  Conspiracies,  and  some 
other  plays,  been  "  pigs  of  his  own  sow."  I  do  not 
think  we  need  go  further  with  Northbrooke :  the 
last  part  of  his  tract  is  directed  against  the  "  horrible 
abuse  of  dauncing,"  but  this  is  not  to  our  purpose. 
We  will  now  inspect  one  of  the  most  popular,  varied, 
and  entertaining  of  all  the  books  of  this  class,  Philip 
Stubbes's  "  Anatomy  of  Abuses  j"  but  from  which 
so  much  has  been  extracted  at  various  times,  and  in 
various  books,  that  it  will  not  long  occupy  us.  The 
title  promises  a  great  deal  of  singular  matter,  and 
the  body  of  the  work  fulfils  that  promise.  It  is  this : 
"  The  Anatomic  of  Abuses :  Containing  a  Discouerie 
or  briefe  Sunimarie  of  such  Notable  Vices  and  Cor- 
ruptions, as  now  raigne  in  many  Christian  Countreyes 
of  the  Worlde:  but  (especially)  in  the  Country  of 
AILGNA  :  Together  with  most  fearefull  Examples  of 
Gods  ludgementes  executed  vpon  the  wicked  for 
the  same,  aswell  in  Ailgna  of  late  as  in  other  places 
elsewhere.  Very  godly  to  be  read,"  &c. 

ELLIOT.  And  among  these  "  notable  vices,"  the 
vice  of  stage-plays  is,  I  suppose,  included. 


236  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  The  attack  upon  theatres  and  actors 
forms  a  very  considerable  and  important  part  of 
the  work.  This  edition  you  see  bears  date  in  1585, 
being  "  printed  at  London  by  Richard  Jones  5" 
but  it  is  said,  on  the  title,  to  be  the  third,  and  is 
the  most  complete,  as  it  was  "  reuised,  recognized 
and  augmented"  by  the  author,  Philip  Stubs  or 
Stubbes.  I  apprehend  that  this  work  made  it  earliest 
appearance  in  1583,  and  it  was  so  popular,  so  pa- 
tronized by  the  increasing  and  intolerant  sect  of  the 
puritans,  that,  I  believe,  it  went  through  two  editions 
in  the  same  year,  and  was  printed  many  times  (I 
cannot  now  exactly  state  how  many)  before  1595. 

ELLIOT.  Who  was  Stubbes  ?  Was  he  a  man  of 
any  note  before  he  wrote  this  book  ? 

BOURNE.  No  trace  of  him  is  to  be  found:  all  our 
biographers  are  nearly  silent  regarding  him.  An- 
thony Wood,  who  claims  him  for  his  university, 
states,  that  he  was  of  genteel  parentage,  and  on  the 
title-page  to  his  "  Motive  to  Good  Works,"  1593, 
Stubbes  styles  himself  "  Gentleman."  His  "  Ana- 
tomy of  Abuses"  produced  a  strong  sensation  when 
it  was  first  printed,  and  Thomas  Nash,  who  wrote 
against  the  puritans  or  martinists,  did  not  fail  to  aim 
one  of  his  satirical  shafts  at  the  work  in  hand.  In  his 
"•Almond  for  a  Parrot  or  Cuthbert  Curry-knaues 
Almes,"  &c.  printed,  most  likely,  soon  afterwards, 
he  has  this  passage  regarding  Stubbes,  though  he 
did  not  think  it  prudent  to  insert  his  name  at  length : 
"  I  can  tell  you  Phil.  Stu.  is  a  tall  man  also  for  that 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  237 

purpose.  What,  his  Anatomic  of  Abuses  for  all  that 
will  serue  very  fitly  for  an  antispast  before  one  of 
Egertons  Sermons.  I  would  see  the  best  of  your 
Trauerses  write  such  a  treatise  as  he  hath  done  against 
short-heeld  pantofles.  But  one  thing,  it  is  a  great 
pity  for  him,  that  being  such  a  good  fellow  as  he  is 
he  should  speake  against  dice  as  he  doth."  He 
here  means  to  ridicule  the  trifles  against  which  most 
of  the  puritanical  writers  and  preachers  directed  their 
vehemence. 

MORTON.  Nash  is  the  man,  who,  according  to  Mr. 
D'Israeli,  by  his  wit  and  satire  wrote  down  Martin- 
marprelate  and  his  associates,  when  all  their  serious 
assailants  produced  no  effect. 

BOURNE.  That  he  silenced  them  for  a  time,  is,  I 
believe,  certain,  and  so  far  he  wrote  them  down. 
The  piece  from  which  I  just  quoted  is  dedicated  to 
Kempe,  a  celebrated  actor  and  humorist  of  that 
time,  who  is  called  "  Jestmonger  and  Vice-gerent 
general  to  the  ghost  of  Dicke  Tarlton,"  also  a  most 
notorious  performer,  whose  name  has  previously 
occurred,  and  will  again  be  mentioned. 

ELLIOT.  I  see  that  Stubbes's  work  is  conducted 
in  the  form  of  a  dialogue  between  two  abstract 
personages,  Messrs.  Spudeus  and  Philoponus.  He 
touches  upon  many  kind  of  abuses  in  Ailgna,  or 
Anglia,  but  mainly,  in  the  commencement,  upon 
pride  of  apparel,  the  excess  of  which,  both  in  men 
and  women,  seems  to  put  him  into  a  violent  and  un- 
restrainable  passion. 


238  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  He  is  so  furious  in  his  assault,  and  so 
coarse  in  his  epithets  regarding  plays  and  players, 
that  it  would  not  be  easy  to  quote  him  in  all  com- 
panies. Referring  to  the  stage,  he  maintains  that 
actors  are  the  authors  of  sensual  vices  of  all  kinds, 
<{  For  proofe  whereof  (he  adds)  but  marke  the  flock- 
ing and  running  to  Theaters  and  Curtens  daylie  and 
hourelie,  night  and  daie,  tyme  and  tide,  to  see  Plaies 
and  Enterludes,  where  suche  wanton  gestures,  suche 
bawdie  speeches,  such  laughing  and  flearyng,  suche 
kissyng  and  bussyng,  suche  clippyng  and  culling, 
such  wincking  and  glauncing  of  wanton  eyes,  and 
the  like  is  vsed,  as  is  wonderfull  to  beholde.  Then 
these  goodly  Pageantes  beyng  ended,  euery  mate 
sortes  to  his  mate,  euery  one  bringes  an  other 
homewarde  of  their  waie  very  freendly,  &c.  *  *  And 
whereas  you  saie,  there  are  good  Examples  to  be 
learned  in  them,  truely  so  there  are :  if  you  will 
learne  falshood  j  if  you  will  learne  cosenage ;  if  you 
will  learne  to  deceiuej  if  you  will  learne  to  plaie 
the  hipocrite,  to  cogge,  to  lye,  and  falsifie  -,  if  you 
will  learne  to  iest  laugh  and  fleere,  to  grinne  to 
nodde  and  mowe;  if  you  will  learne  to  plaie  the 
vice,  to  sweare,  teare  and  blaspheme  both  Heauen 
and  Earth." 

ELLIOT.  A  most  eloquent  and  forcible  reduplica- 
tion :  it  must  have  cost  the  author  not  a  little  trouble 
to  collect  so  many  terms  of  abuse,  and  to  apply  them 
as  he  has  done. 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  239 

MORTON.  One  would  really  suppose,  if  one  took 
these  representations  for  granted,  that  our  ancestors, 
who  frequented  theatres,  were  much  more  immoral 
than  ourselves, 

BOURNE.  Another  short  extract  will,  I  dare  say, 
satisfy  you :  it  is  Stubbes's  conclusion,  in  which 
he  formally  denounces  plays,  acting,  and  actors. 
"  Awaie  therefore  with  this  so  infamous  an  arte,  for 
goe  they  neuer  so  braue  yet  are  they  couted  and 
taken  but  for  beggers.  And  is  it  not  true  ?  Liue 
they  not  vppon  begging  of  euery  one  that  comes  ? 
Are  they  not  taken  by  the  Lawes  of  the  Realme  for 
roagues  and  vac-abounds?  (I  speake  of  such  as 
trauaile  the  Countries  with  Plaies  and  Enterludes, 
making  an  occupation  of  it)  and  ought  so  to  bee 
punished,  if  they  had  their  deserts.-  But  hopyng  that 
they  will  be  warned  now  at  the  last,  I  will  say  no 
more  of  them  ;  beseeching  them  to  cansider  what  a 
fearefull  thing  it  is  to  fall  into  the  handes  of  God, 
and  to  prouoke  his  wrath  and  heauie  displeasure 
against  themselues  and  others.  Which  the  Lorde 
of  his  mercie  tourne  from  vs." 

ELLIOT.  Milton,  in  the  preface  to  his  "  Doctrine, 
&c.  of  Divorces,"  asserts  that  "  the  greatest  burden 
in  the  world  is  superstition,  not  only  of  ceremonies 
in  the  Church  but  of  imaginary  and  scare  crow  sins 
at  home."  The  latter  kind  seems  mightily  to  have 
troubled  the  writers  against  the  stage. 

BOURNE.  Having  bestowed  as  much  time  as  we 
can  afford  on  Stubbes's  "  Anatomic  of  Abuses,"  we 


NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

will  proceed  to  another  production,  not  so  long  nor 
so  celebrated :  I  shall  be  very  brief  with  it,  because 
I  have  mentioned  it  before.  I  mean  a  small  tract 
appended  by  Whetstone  to  his  "  Mirror  for  Ma- 
gistrates of  Cities,"  1584,  and  called  "  An  Addition 
or  Touchstone  for  the  Time :  exposyng  the  dainger- 
ous  Mischiefes  that  the  Dicyng  Howses  (comonly 
called)  Ordinarie  Tables,  and  other  (like)  Sanctuaries 
of  Iniquitie,  do  dayly  breede  within  the  Bowelles  of 
the  famous  Citie  of  London." 

MORTON.  You  read  from  it,  I  remember,  a  curious 
anecdote  of  Judge  Chumley. 

BOURNE.  I  did,  and  some  matter  personally  re- 
lating to  Whetstone.  I  shall  now  only  quote  a  very 
short  notice  by  him  of  theatrical  performances  :  it  is 
included  in  that  part  of  his  work  which  is  called 
"  A  Remembrance  of  the  disordered  State  of  the 
Commonwealth,  at  the  Queenes  Maiesties  commyng 
to  the  Crowne,"  and  the  passage  is  as  follows : 
st  The  godly  Diuines  in  publique  Sermons,  and 
others  in  printed  Bookes  haue  (of  late)  uery  sharply 
inuayed  against  Stage -playes  (vnproperly  called 
Tragedies,  Comedies  and  Moralles)  as  the  Sprynges 
of  many  vices  and  the  stumblyng-blockes  of  Godly- 
nesse  and  Vertue :  Truely  the  vse  of  them  vpon  the 
Saboth  day,  and  the  abuse  of  them  at  all  times  with 
scurilytie  and  vnchaste  coueiance,  ministred  matter 
sufficient  for  them  to  blame,  and  the  Maiestrate  to 
reforme." 

ELLIOT.  He  seems  very  measured  in  his  reproba- 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  241 

tion  of  stage-plays  :  he  only  censures  the  "  abuse  of 
them." 

MORTON.  He  might  well  be  cautious  and  scru- 
pulous on  this  point,  when  we  recollect  that  he  had 
himself  written  two  plays,  or  one  play  in  two  parts, 
called  "  Promos  and  Cassandra,"  printed  in  1578. 
You  do  not  mean  that  what  you  have  just  read  is  all 
that  Whetstone  says  upon  the  subject  of  Theatres  r 

BOURNE.  Very  nearly:  he  goes  on,  however,  to 
remark  :  "  But  there  are  within  the  Bowels  of  this 
famous  Citie  farre  more  daungerous  Playes  and 
little  reprehended  j  that  wicked  Playes  of  the  Bice, 
first  inuented  by  the  Deuyll  (as  Cornelius  Agrippa 
writeth)  and  frequented  by  vnhappy  men :  the  de- 
testable Roote  vpon  which  a  thousand  villanies 
growe."  It  is  against  the  last  that  his  enmity  is 
directed,  and  to  them  all  his  details  relate  ;  he  only 
touches  upon  theatrical  performances  by  the  way. 

ELLIOT.  When  he  speaks  of  the  "  printed  books" 
in  which  stage-plays  were  inveighed  against,  he  re- 
fers of  course  to  Gosson,  Northbrooke,  and  Stubbes : 
to  whom  does  he  allude  when  he  says  that  stage- 
plays  had  been  abused  in  "  public  sermons  ?" 

BOURNE.  You  have  reminded  me  of  a  tract  I  had 
forgotten  to  notice  in  its  proper  place,  and  yet  it  is 
precisely  in  point  here. 

MORTON.  Do  you  mean  a  Sermon  on  the  subject  ? 

BOURNE.  A  production  of  that  class,  and  a  work, 
I  can  assure  you,  that  is  not  often  met  with.  I  will 

VOL,  II.  R 


242  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

read  the  title,  and  then,  if  further  explanation  be 
necessary,  I  will  give  it :  it  is  called  "  A  Godly 
exhortation  by  occasion  of  the  late  iudgement  of 
God  shewed  at  Paris-garden,  the  thirteenth  day  of 
lanvarie :  where  were  assembled  by  estimation  aboue 
a  thousand  persons,  whereof  some  were  slaine  and 
of  that  number  at  the  least,  as  is  credibly  reported, 
the  thirde  person  maimed  and  hurt.  Giuen  to  all 
estates  for  their  instruction  concerning  the  keeping 
of  the  Sabboth  day."  It  is  by  "  John  Field,  Minister 
of  the  Word  of  God,"  and  was  printed  in  1583. 
There  are  many  accounts  of  the  catastrophe  to  which 
the  tract  relates.  Paris  Garden,  you  know,  was  a 
place  where  bears  were  baited,  and  the  greatest  num- 
ber of  spectators  was  obtained  on  Sundays. 

MORTON.  The  fact  is  mentioned  at  some  length  in 
Pennant's  London. 

BOURNE.  And  elsewhere,  so  that  we  need  not  go 
over  the  shocking  picture  this  pious  preacher  draws 
of  the  calamity. 

ELLIOT.  I  do  not  see  the  pertinency  of  this  "  Godly 
exhortation"  to  our  present  inquiry,  unless  some- 
thing be  said  about  theatrical  representations. 

BOURNE.  Supposing  nothing  more  were  said,  you 
would  not  have  much  right  to  complain,  considering 
that  bear-baiting  and  stage-plays  were  generally 
coupled  by  the  puritans ;  but  if  you  had  waited,  I 
should  have  finished  by  this  time  the  following  para- 
graph in  the  tract,  which  is  curious,  as  alluding  to  the 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  243 

abolition  of  theatrical  performances  on  Sunday,  pre- 
vious to  1583.  Field  is  exhorting  the  Lord  [Mayor,  &c. 
of  London  to  use  their  influence  to  abolish  bear-bait- 
ing, "  And  as"  (he  observes)  "  they  haue  with  good 
commendation  so  far  preuailed,  that  vpon  Saboath 
dayes  these  Heathenishe  Enterludes  and  playes  are 
banished,  so  it  wyll  please  them  to  followe  the  matter 
still,  that  they  may  be  vtterly  rid  and  taken  away. 
For  surely  it  is  to  be  feared,  besides  the  destruction 
bothe  of  bodye  and  soule,  that  many  are  brought 
vnto  by  frequenting  the  Theater,  the  Curtin  and 
such  like,  that  one  day  those  places  will  likewise  be 
cast  downe  by  God  himselfe."  That,  I  fancy,  you 
will  consider  to  the  point. 

ELLIOT.  Certainly ;  but  I  thought,  from  what  you 
read  from  Whetstone  just  now  under  date  of  1584, 
that  stage-plays  on  Sundays  were  then  acted. 

BOURNE.  If  you  refer  to  his  words  again,  you 
will  perceive  that  they  are  ambiguous,  and  that  he 
is  only  expressing  an  opinion  in  favour  of  what  had 
already  been  decided  by  the  higher  powers.  Besides, 
it  is  clear  that  they  were  abolished  when  Field  wrote 
in  1583,  and  that  they  were  not  abolished  when  the 
tract  I  have  now  in  my  hand  was  printed,  viz.  1580. 
MORTON.  So  that  you  fix  the  period  between 
1580  and  1583.  This  is  important,  because  our 
stage  historians  have  not  hitherto  settled  the  date 
with  any  precision :  one  of  the  most  learned  says, 
with  extreme  laxity,  (<  During  a  great  part  of 

R  2 


244  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

Queen  Elizabeth's  reign  the  play-houses  were  only 
licenced  to  be  opened  on  that  day  (i.  e.  Sunday) ; 
but  before  the  end  of  her  reign,  or  soon  after,  this 
abuse  was  probably  removed." 

BOURNE.  I  am  not  sure  that  it  would  not  be  pos- 
sible to  come  even  nearer  the  precise  date  than  we 
have  at  present  arrived.  I  am  not  aware,  however, 
of  any  intermediate  work,  between  1580  and  1583, 
where  the  fact  is  noticed.  I  may  add,  that  Mr. 
Chalmers  (Sup.  Apol.  185.)  states,  incorrectly  cer- 
tainly, that  the  exhibition  of  plays  on  Sunday  was 
not  forbidden  until  1587- 

ELLIOT.  From  Field's  "  Exhortation"  you  find 
that  in  1583  stage-plays  were  "  banished"  on  the 
Sabbath :  where  then  do  you  learn  that  they  were  not 
banished  in  1580? 

BOURNE.  From  this  little  piece,  by  Arthur  Golding, 
the  translator  of  Ovid's  Metamorphoses,  and  who, 
you  may  recollect,  was  enumerated  by  Abraham 
Fleming  among  the  writers  upon  the  same  earth- 
quake that  employed  his  pen.  This  is  the  tract  he 
published  on  that  occasion. 

MORTON.  The  title  I  see  is  this :  "  A  discourse 
vpon  the  Earthquake  that  happened  through  this 
realme  of  Englande  and  other  places  of  Christendom, 
the  sixt  of  Aprill,  1580,"  &c.  "  Written  by  Arthur 
Golding,  Gentleman."  It  seems  wholly  religious. 

BOURNE.  It  is :  the  date,  1580.,  and  the  printer's 
name,  Henry  Binneman,  are  to  be  found  at  the  end ; 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  245 

but  if  you  will  give  me  the  book,  I  can  save  trouble 
by  pointing  out  the  particular  paragraph  that  relates 
to  this  subject :  the  rest  is  a  mere  dull  discourse, 
principally  to  show  that  earthquakes  are  to  be  looked 
upon  as  the  judgments  of  God,  and  not  as  proceeding 
from  natural  causes. 

MORTON.  There  is  no  occasion,  as  I  have  it  here. 

ELLIOT.  Read  it,  then,  but  no  more  than  is  to  our 
purpose :  we  can  very  well  omit  all  the  rest. 

MORTON.  It  is  not  long.  "  The  Saboth  dayes  and 
holy  dayes  ordayned  for  the  hearing  of  Gods  word 
to  the  reformation  of  our  lyues,  for  the  administra- 
tion and  receiuing  of  the  Sacramentes  to  our  comfort, 
for  the  seeking  of  all  things  behouefull  for  bodye  or 
soule  at  Gods  hande  by  prayer,  for  the  mynding  of 
his  benefites,  and  to  yeelde  praise  and  thankes  vnto 
him  for  the  same,  and  finally  for  the  speciall  oc- 
cupying of  our  selves  in  all  spirituall  exercises" 

ELLIOT.  I  am  sure  you  must  be  reading  more 
than  is  necessary :  Golding  is  a  long  time  coming 
to  the  point. 

MORTON.  These  are  only  ambages  to  give  the 
more  effect  to  what  follows:  he  adds,  that  the 
Sabbath,  instead  of  being  employed  as  he  has  de- 
scribed, "  is  spent  full  heathenishly,  in  tauerning, 
tipling,  gaming,  playing  and  beholding  of  Beare- 
baytings  and  stage-playes  to  the  vtter  dyshonor  of 
God,  impeachment  of  all  godlynesse  and  vnneces- 
sarie  consuming  of  mennes  substances  which  ought 
to  be  better  employed." 


•246  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  That  is  all  we  need  read ;  but  I  will  just 
add,  upon  this  point,  that  Stephen  Gosson,  in  1579, 
in  his  "  School  of  Abuse,"  bears  wrathful  testimony 
to  the  performance  of  plays  on  Sunday. 

ELLIOT.  The  point  (an  important  one,  I  allow) 
being  thus  settled  by  the  testimony  of  Golding,  what 
do  you  next  offer  us  ? 

BOURNE.  We  will  now  examine  the  work  of  a 
man,  whom  I  mentioned  some  days  ago  as  a 
satirist,  as  author  of  a  sonnet  before  Bodenham's 
Belvedere,  1600,  but  principally  as  the  writer  of  the 
tract  which  now  comes  under  our  review,  called 
"  A  Mirour  of  Monsters :  Wherein  is  plainely  de- 
scribed the  manifold  vices  and  spotted  enormities 
that  are  caused  by  the  infectious  sight  of  Playes, 
with  the  description  of  the  subtile  slights  of  Sathan 
making  them  his  instruments."  London,  1587.  It 
is  by  Wil.  Rankin  or  Rankins,  and  is  one  of  the 
pamphlets  against  the  stage  that  is  most  rarely  met 
with.  One  singularity  in  it  is  a  description  (though 
not  a  very  intelligible  one),  of  a  sort  of  mask  or 
pageant  on  the  marriage  of  Fastus  and  Luxuria,  two 
of  the  prime  favourites  of  Sathan,  and  favourers 
of  Actors.  The  personages  who  perform  are  six, 
viz.  Idleness,  Flattery,  Ingratitude,  Ugly  Dissension, 
Blasphemy,  and  Impudence.  As  this  description  is 
inserted  late,  I  will  first  read  a  sentence  or  two 
against  stage-players  in  Terralbon,  to  which  country 
the  author  states  he  had  travelled :  "  When  first  these 
monsters  came  into  Terralbon  such  was  their  proud 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  C247 

presumption,  that  they  feared  not  to  prophane  the 
Sabbaoth,  to  defile  the  Lord's  daie,  to  scoffe  at  his 
word,  and  to  stage  his  wrath.  But  when  the  King 
of  kings  sawe  his  scepter  broken,  his  crowne  trode 
vnder  feete  of  the  vngodlie,  his  roabes  rent,  naye 
the  glorie  of  his  Sonne  darkened  with  the  head  of 
this  monstrous  Beast,  he  stretched  out  his  mightie 
arme,  and  with  the  rod  of  his  lustice  brused  the 
bones  of  them  that  prophaned  his  Sabbaoth,  defiled 
his  sacred  daye  and  scoffed  at  his  holie  word.  Then 
Justice  pulled  off  hir  vaile  and  with  a  cleare  fore- 
sight (beholding  the  same)  so  ordained  it  that  these 
monsters  dare  no  longer  roare  on  the  Sabaoth  of  the 
Lorde." 

ELLIOT.  Here  also  is  evidence  of  the  abolition  of 
stage-playes  on  Sundays,  in  the  year  1587- 

BOURNE.  There  can  be  no  doubt  of  that  fact:  the 
last  paragraph,  as  appears  by  a  marginal  note, 
alludes  to  the  melancholy  accident  that  happened  at 
Paris  Garden  in  1583,  of  which  we  have  spoken 
already. 

MORTON.  Where  is  the  account  of  the  mask  ? 

BOURNE.  There  is  no  regular  detail  of  it  beyond 
the  names  of  the  maskers,  nor  are  any  of  the 
speeches  inserted :  the  description  is  only  general. 
Two  addresses  by  Fastus  and  Ltixuria  on  the  arrival 
of  the  maskers  at  their  palace,  KoiAoppsap,  from  the 
dominion  of  Belzebub,  are  given ;  but  one  of  them, 
the  welcome  spoken  by  the  lady,  you  will  find  quite 


248  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

sufficient,  or  more  than  sufficient  :  she  says,  "  My 
Lorde  and  espoused  husband  Fastus  (you  inhabitants 
of  ye  infernal  world)  hath  alreadie  showne  you  by 
the  zeale  of  his  louing  hart,  the  simpathy  of  whose 
minde  consisteth  in  my  selfe,  that  whatsoeuer  he 
shall  seeme  to  allowe  of  duety  and  loue  I  beare  him, 
besides  the  favor  I  owe  vnto  you,  confirmeth  the 
same  in  me,  so  farre  then  wherein  the  power  or 
duetifull  seruice  of  a  sillye  woman  consisteth  or  may 
offer  requitall,  let  it  be  expected  ;  for  duety  wylls 
so  much,  and  your  curtesie  commandes  no  lesse: 
you  are  therefore  hartily  welcome  to  our  Castle  of 


ELLIOT.  There  is  certainly  nothing  at  all  re- 
markable in  that. 

BOURNE.  Perhaps  not,  but  in  several  respects  this 
tract  differs  from  the  usual  strain  of  laborious  and 
dull  invective,  in  which  pieces  with  the  same  object 
were  usually  written,  overburdened  with  quotations 
from  the  Scriptures  and  the  Fathers.  Of  this  the 
work  of  Dr.  Rainoldes,  to  which  we  shall  come  pre- 
sently, is  a  tedious  example. 

ELLIOT.  Have  you  any  thing  more  to  offer  us  from 
Rankin—  any  thing  a  little  better  than  the  last  extract, 
I  mean  ? 

BOURNE.  There  is  a  passage  regarding  the  general 
condition  of  England,  and  in  praise  of  Queen  Eliza- 
beth and  her  government,  that  I  might  read  if 
you  had  patience  ;  but  the  author  of  this  "  Mirror 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  249 

of  Monsters"  only  speaks  very  generally  on  these 
topics. 

MORTON.  You  mentioned  just  now  the  coupling 
of  plays  and  bear-baiting  by  the  puritanical  writers, 
but  I  recollect  that  they  even  go  further :  Stubbes 
especially  denounces  May-games  as  one  of  the  same 
"  pomps  of  the  Devil." 

BOURNE.  And  so  the  puritans  continued  to  do 
even  down  to  the  Restoration.  This  small  tract  by 
Thomas  Hall,  "  B.  D.  and  Pastor  of  King's  Norton," 
who  abused  John  Webster  the  player  as  the  writer 
of  Academiarum  Examen,  is  a  violent  and  singular 
attack  upon  May-games  in  the  year  1C60. 

ELLIOT.  You  cull  it  violent  anJ  singular:  the 
violence,  I  suppose,  arises  out  of  the  author's  zeal, 
but  in  what  does  the  singularity  consist? 

BOURNE.  In  the  manner  in  which  the  subject  is 
handled :  the  title  is  not  a  little  remarkable — it  is 
called  "  Fvnebria  Florae,  the  downefall  of  May- 
Games.  Wherein  is  set  forth  the  rudeness,  prophane- 
ness,  stealing,  drinking,  fighting,  dancing,"  &c. 
"  contempt  of  God  and  godly  Magistrats,  Ministers 
and  People,  which  oppose  the  Rascality  and  rout 
in  this  their  open  prophaneness  and  Heathenish 
Customs,"  and  a  great  deal  more  of  the  same  kind 
of  abuse,  some  of  it  much  too  coarse  to  be  extracted. 

MORTON.  That  remark  applies,  more  or  less,  to 
nearly  all  the  publications  I  have  seen  against  the 
theatre :  the  authors  are  never  at  all  scrupulous  in 


250  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

using  the  most  offensive  terms  they  could  discover 
or  invent. 

BOURNE.  Hall  merits  the  same  censure,  but  we 
will  pass  over  that  part  of  his  pamphlet,  observing, 
by  the  way,  that  he  bitterly  complains  "  that  even 
in  Cheapside  it  self  the  rude  rabble  had  set  vp  this 
Ensign  of  prophaneness  and  had  put  the  Lord  Mayor 
to  the  trouble  of  seeing  it  pulled  down." 

ELLIOT.  Cheapside  was  then  little  better  than  an 
open  market-place.  I  suppose  the  reverend  author 
considers  a  May-game  as  a  sort  of  idolatrous  worship 
of  a  pole. 

BOURNE.  You  have  guessed  rightly;  but  the  most 
ludicrous  part  of  his  attack,  is  a  mock  trial  of  the 
heathen  patroness  of  these  sports,  under  the  title  of 
"  the  Inditement  of  Flora,"  in  which  this  "Floralian 
harlot"  is  regularly  arraigned,  and  a  jury  impannelled 
for  her  trial. 

MORTON.  A  monstrous  absurdity. 

BOURNE.  Yet  detailed  with  the  utmost  gravity 
and  solemnity,  as  if  it  were  the  formal  proceeding 
of  a  constituted  court.  You  shall  see:  it  begins 
thus — The  clerk  says, 

"  Flora — hold  vp  thy  hand  : 

"  Thou  art  indited  by  the  name  of  Flora  of  the 
City  of  Rome,  in  the  County  of  Babylon,  for  that 
thou  contrary  to  the  peace  of  our  Soveraign  Lord, 
his  Crown  and  Dignity,  hast  brought  in  a  pack  of 
practical  Fanaticks  viz,  Ignorants,  Atheists,  Papists, 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  251 

Drunkards,  Swearers,  Swash-bucklers,  Maid-mar- 
rions,  Morrice-Dancers,  Maskers,  Mummers,  May- 
pole-stealers,  Health-drinkers,  together  with  a  ras- 
caliau  rout  of  Fidlers,  Fools,  Fighters,  Gamesters, 
Whore-masters,  Lewd -men,  Light- women,  Con- 
temners  of  Magistracy,  Affronters  of  Ministery,  re- 
bellious to  Masters,  disobedient  to  Parents,  mis- 
spenders  of  time,  abusers  of  the  creature." 

ELLIOT.  What  says  the  poor  prisoner  at  the  bar 
to  this  accusation — does  she  plead  guilty  or  not 
guilty? 

BOURNE.  The  following  colloquy  occurs  between 
Flora  and  the  judge. 

Judge.  What  sayest  thou,  guilty  or  not  guilty  ? 

Prisoner.  Not  guilty,  My  Lord. 

Judg.  By  whom  wilt  thou  be  tried  ? 

Pris.  By  the  Popes-Holiness,  my  Lord. 

Judg.  He  is  thy  Patron  and  Protector,  and  so 
unfit  to  be  a  Judge  in  this  case. 

Pris.  Then  I  appeal  to  the  Prelates,  and  Lord 
Bishops,  my  Lord. 

Judg.  This  is  but  a  tiffany  put  off,  &c. 

Pris.  Then  I  appeal  to  the  rout  and  rabble  of  the 
world. 

Judg.  These  are  thy  followers  and  thy  favourites, 
and  so  unfit  to  be  Judges  in  their  own  case. 

Pris.  My  Lord  if  there  be  no  remedy,  I  am  con- 
tent to  bee  tried  by  a  Jury. 


252  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

Judg.  Thou  hast  well  said,  thou  shalt  haue  a  full 
fair  and  a  free  hearing." 

MORTON.  The  English  bishops  and  the  Romish 
pope  are  here  considered  much  upon  a  par :  Hall 
was  a  furious  mar-prelate,  I  have  no  doubt.  Does 
the  unhappy  prisoner  obtain  a  full,  fair,  and  free 
hearing  ? 

BOURNE.  You  may  judge  from  this  fact,  that  the 
judge  acts  as  the  crown  advocate,  and  the  jury  are 
both  jurymen  and  witnesses :  but  we  have  not  arrived 
at  the  end  of  the  ridiculousness  of  this  mock  trial. 
Holy-Scriptures  is  the  first  called  to  come  into  court. 

"  Holy-Scriptures.  My  Lord,  I  cannot  get  in. 

Jud^  Who  keeps  you  out. 

Holy- Scriptures.  My  Lord  here  is  a  company  of 
ignorant,  rude,  prophane,  superstitious,  Atheistical 
persons  that  will  not  suffer  me  to  come  in. 

Judg.  Over,  knock  down  those  prophane  persons 
and  make  room  for  Holy -Script  arcs  to  come  in." 

ELLIOT.  He  is  as  summary  as  Jack  Cade  with  the 
soldier,  who  omitted  to  call  him  Lord  Mortimer  ; 
"  Knock  him  down  there  !" 

BOURNE.  After  the  evidence  of  this  juryman  is 
received,  a  little  flattery  of  the  newly  restored  Charles 
II.  is  inserted,  for  the  prisoner  declares,  "  My  Lord, 
I  and  my  retinew  are  uery  much  deceived  in  this 
Charls  the  Second;  we  all  conceited  that  he  was 
for  us:  my  Drunkards  cryed,  a  Health  to  the  King: 


NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

the  Swearers  swore  a  Health  to  the  King  so  long 
till  they  swore  themselves  out  of  health.  The  Papist, 
the  Atheist,  the  Roarer  and  the  Ranter,  they  all 
concluded  that  now  their  day  was  come,  but  alass 
how  are  we  deceived  !" 

MORTON.  Or  rather  how  were  the  puritans  de- 
ceived in  their  hopes  of  Charles. 

BOURNE.  To  proceed  with  the  trial:  the  ordinance 
of  parliament  of  1644  for  keeping  holy  the  Lord's 
day,  the  Solemn  League  and  Covenant,  an  order 
from  the  Council  of  State,  and  Ovid,  (with  a  passage 
from  his  Fasti,  lib.  5,)  with  some  others,  compose  the 
rest  of  the  jury,  who  find  the  prisoner  guilty  ;  and 
then  follows  "  the  aweful  sentence  of  the  law,"  as  it 
is  called,  which  is,  perpetual  banishment.  Such  is 
the  result  of  the  "  full,  fair,  and  free  hearing"  poor 
Flora  obtains.  This  is  really  all  that  is  worth  read- 
ing in  the  tract. 

ELLIOT.  Then  we  need  not  detain  ourselves  further 
with  it. 

BOURNE.  If  so,  we  have  advanced  as  far  as  Dr. 
Rainoldes's  "  Overthrow  of  Stage-Plays,"  1599. 

MORTON.  That  is  one  of  the  most  notorious  works 
upon  the  subject,  and  I  suppose  one  of  the  least 
scarce,  as  there  was  a  second  edition  of  it  in  1629, 
which  is  not  unfrequently  met  with  at  book  sales. 

BOURNE.  It  is,  and  while  it  is  one  of  the  longest, 
most  learned,  and  most  laboured,  it  contains  even 
less  information  than  others  regarding  the  state  of 


254  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

the  stage  j  in  fact,  although  the  question  is  handled 
generally  in  some  places,  the  principal  object  of  the 
author  was  to  abolish  the  then  prevailing  custom  of 
representing  what  were  called  University  Plays,  per- 
formed by  students,  and  written  in  Latin. 

ELLIOT.  I  should  have  imagined  that  the  severest 
puritan,  and  the  most  prejudiced  opponent  of  thea- 
trical performances,  would  not  have  carried  his  an- 
tipathy quite  so  far.  I  thought  that  they  were  on 
all  hands  allowed. 

BOURNE.  They  are  by  some,  but  not  by  all,  and 
among  the  last,  Dr.  Rainoldes,  or  Reynolds,  of 
Queen's  College,  who,  by  the  testimony  of  all  wri- 
ters (and  by  his  own,  as  far  as  his  productions  are 
witnesses  in  his  favour),  was  a  man  of  vast  eru- 
dition. Bastard,  in  his  Chrestoleros,  1598,  a  book  I 
have  often  quoted,  and  with  the  best  parts  of  which 
you  are  by  this  time  acquainted,  has  the  following 
Epigram,  addressed  to  him  in  L.  IV. 

"  Ad  Johannem  Reynolds. 

"  Do  I  call  iudgement  to  my  foolish  rimes 
And  rarest  art  and  reading  them  to  viewe, 
Reynolds,  Religions  Oracle  most  true  2 
Mirrour  of  arte  and  Austen  of  our  times ! 
For  loue  of  these  I  call  thee,  which  I  pray, 
That  thou  in  reading  these  wouldst  put  away." 
ELLIOT.  The  compliment  is  rather  clumsily  paid. 
Your  mention  of  Bastard's  book  brings  to  my  re- 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  255 

collection  an  epigram  I  saw  in  it,  connected,  in  some 
degree,  with  our  immediate  subject,  I  mean  on  the 
profaneness  of  the  stage.  It  is  L.  VI.  Epigr.  7>  and 
entitled  "  In  prophanationem  nominis  Dei." 

"  Gods  name  is  bare  of  honour  in  our  hearing, 
And  euen  worne  out  with  our  blasphemous  swearing, 
Betweene  the  infant  and  the  aged  both, 
The  first  and  last  they  vtter  is  an  oath. 
O  hellishe  manners  of  our  prophane  age, 
lehouahs  feare  is  scoft  vpon  the  stage ! 
The  Mimicke  iester,  names  it  euery  day; 
Vnlesse  God  be  blasphem'de  it  is  no  play." 

BOURNE.  The  practice  of  swearing  on  the  stage 
was  not  long  afterwards  reformed  under  the  highest 
authority,  and  in  the  editions  of  plays  subsequently 
printed,  it  is  not  uncommon  to  observe  variations 
occasioned  by  it :  thus  Heaven  is  generally  substi- 
tuted for  God,  and  other  similar  changes  made. 

ELLIOT.  I  here  also  find  an  epigram  to  Richard 
Tarlton  the  comedian  and  jester,  whose  name  we 
saw  introduced  by  Nash  into  his  "  Almond  for  a 
Parrot,"  in  which  he  is  praised  for  having  "  made 
folly  excellent,"  and  spoken  of  as  being  "  extoll'd 
for  that  which  all  despise." 

BOURNE.  Although  Bastard  entertained,  to  a  cer- 
tain extent,  the  same  opinions  as  Dr.  Rainoldes,  he 
nevertheless  seems,  at  least,  to  tolerate  actors,  and 
to  praise  such  as  were  sober  and  meritorious.  When 


256  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

upon  the  learning  of  the  author  of  the  "  Overthrow 
of  Stage-plays/'  I  was  about  to  quote  from  the 
highest  authority  in  his  favour,  I  mean  Bishop  Hall, 
who  has  the  following  sentence  in  one  of  the  epistles 
of  his  Decades,  addressed  to  M.  Bedell :  "  He  (Dr. 
Rainoldes)  alone  was  a  well  furnished  library,  full 
of  all  faculties,  of  all  studies,  of  all  learning ;  the 
memory,  the  reading  of  that  man  went  near  to  a 
miracle." ,  I  will  make  merely  a  short  extract  or  two 
from  his  Overthrow  of  Stage  Plays,  observing  first, 
that  his  work  consists  of  two  portions,  and  forms 
part  of  a  contest  between  him  and  Doctor  Gager  on 
the  subject  of  theatrical  representations.  Dr.  Gager 
had  written  an  academic  tragedy,  under  the  title  of 
Ulysses  Redux,  Tragcedia  nova,  in  cede  Ckristi  Oxonicc 
publice  recitata,  which  gave  offence  to  a  great  body 
of  the  puritans. 

MORTON.  And  Dr.  Gager,  of  course,  vindicated 
himself? 

BOURNE.  Yes,  but  only  to  the  extent  of  academic 
plays :  however,  the  attack  of  Dr.  Rainoldes  is  ge- 
neral, and  it  is  supported  by  an  amazing  number  and 
variety  of  learned  quotations :  the  publisher  boasts 
that  it  had  had  the  effect  of  first  silencing,  and  then 
converting  his  antagonist. 

MORTON.  I  have  seen  it  asserted  somewhere,  that 
Dr.  Gager's  reply  to  Dr.  Rainoldes  is  in  the  library 
of  C.  C.  college,  Cambridge.  If  this  be  so,  it  would- 
mainly  disprove  that  assertion.  < . 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  257 

BOURNE.  Of  course.  I  read  the  following  para- 
graph from  Dr.  Rainoldes,  not  because  it  counte- 
nances the  story  against  Shakespeare,  that  he  had 
been  guilty  of  deer-stealing,  but  because  it  is  singular 
that  that  offence  should  be  named  as  ordinarily  com- 
mitted by  vagrants,  such  as  itinerant  players. 

ELLIOT.  Some  persons  disbelieve  it  altogether, 
and  it  is  not  impossible,  that  on  account  of  its  being 
frequently  committed,  the  charge  has  been  invented 
against  our  great  dramatist. 

BOURNE.  I  do  not  think  that  likely,  supported,  as 
the  story  is,  by  the  ballad  upon  Sir  Thomas  Lucy. 
Besides,  the  deer,  if  stolen  at  all,  was  stolen  before 
Shakespeare  left  Stratford.  "  Time  of  recreation 
(says  Dr.  Rainoldes)  is  necessary,  I  graunt,  and 
think  as  necessary  for  schollers  that  are  schollers 
indeed,  I  meane  good  students,  as  it  is  for  any. 
Yet  in  my  opinion  it  were  not  fit  for  them  to 
play  at  Stoole-ball  among  wenches,  nor  at  Mum- 
chance  or  Maw  with  idle  loose  companions  j  nor  at 
trunkes  in  Guile-halls,  nor  to  dance  about  May- 
poles, nor  to  rufle  in  alehouses,  nor  to  carowse  in 
tauernes,  nor  to  steale  deere,  nor  to  rob  orchards. 
Though  who  can  deny  but  they  may  doe  these  things, 
yea  worse." 

MORTON.  Shakespeare's  annotators  would  certainly 
have  adduced  this  quotation,  if  they  had  recollected 
it,  as  an  incidental  confirmation  of  the  imputation 
upon  Shakespeare. 

VOL.  II.  5 


358  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  I  will  only  read  one  more  extract  from 
another  part  of  this  volume,  because,  as  I  have  said, 
the  book  is  not  by  any  means  so  rare  as  many  others, 
and  it  is  strangely  barren  of  all  information  regard- 
ing the  state  of  the  stage  about  that  date. 

MORTON.  Perhaps  not  very  strangely  barren,  when 
we  recollect  that  a  man  like  Dr.  Rainoldes,  as  Hall 
has  described  him,  could  not  be  much  acquainted 
with  the  nature  or  condition  of  the  acted  drama  in 
the  metropolis  or  elsewhere. 

BOURNE.  No  doubt  that  is  to  be  taken  into  view, 
and  wherever  he  enters  into  particulars.,  they  refer 
to  the  plays  represented  at  the  universities :  for  in- 
stance, in  one  place  he  speaks  of  the  expense  of 
getting  up  a  play,  "  trimming  vp  a  stage  and  bor- 
rowing robes  out  of  the  revils,"  as  thirty  pounds, 
but  it  has  no  allusion  to  the  public  theatres. 

MORTON.  There  seems  to  be  very  little  general 
argument  in  the  book  ;  it  is  almost  entirely  contro- 
vers.al,  and  the  author  disputes  Dr.  (lager's  positions 
serial hn,  citing  in  the  margin  a  long  list  of  authorities, 
Christian  and  heathen. 

BOURNE  The  minuteness  of  Dr.  Rainoldes'  know- 
ledge is  sometimes  astonishing ;  he  is  ostentatiously 
learned  upon  the  merest  trifles,  and  to  him,  with- 
out derogating  from  his  great  erudition,  I  think  we 
may,  in  some  degree,  apply  the  censure  of  John 
Webster,  in  his  "  Duchess  of  Malfi,"  (1623):  "  a 
fantastical  Scholar,  like  such  who  study  to  know  how 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  259 

many  knots  were  in  Hercules  club  j  of  what  colour 
Achilles'  beard  was,  or  whether  Hector  were  not' 
troubled  with  the  tooth-ache  :  he  hath  studied  him- 
self blear-eyed  to  know  the  true  symmetry  of  Caesars 
nose  by  a  shoeing  horn." 

ELLIOT.  A  clever  and  often  just  piece  of  ridicule  : 
but  where  is  the  other  extract  from  the  "  Overthrow 
of  Stage  Plays"  you  recommended  to  our  perusal  ? 

BOURNE.  It  is  here;  on  the  subject  of  the  propriety 
of  men  wearing  the  apparel  of  women,  and  women 
of  men. 

ELLIOT.  Juvenal  asks,  you  know, 

Quern  prastare  potest  mulier  galeata  pudorem 
a  sejcu? 


BOURNE.  Dr.  Rainoldes  treats  the  point  with  more 
lightness  than  "  was  his  wont."  •'  Now  (says  he) 
if  this  were  lawfully  done  because  he  did  it,  then 
Willinm,  Bishop  of  Ely,  who  to  saue  his  honour  and 
wealth,  became  a  greene-sleeues,  going  in  womans 
raiment  lesse  way  then  twenty  miles,  from  Dover 
castle  to  the  Sea  side,  did  therein  like  a  man;  al- 
though the  women  of  Dover,  when  they  had  found  it 
out  by  plucking  downe  his  muffler  and  seeing  his 
new  shauen  beard,  called  him  a  monster  for  it  :  then 
with  vs  a  Scholler  who  thinketh  of  some  man  as 
Euclide  did  of  Socrates,  and  cannot  well  frequent  his 
house  in  the  day  time  for  suspition  of  lewdnesse  with 
his  Xanthippe,  or  of  Popery,  may  come  like  a  maiden 

«  2 


S6Q  NINTH  CONVERSATION. 

thither  by  night:  then  our  Vniuersitie  Statute  of 
night  walkers  would  be  taken  away,  or  qualified  at 
least,  and  if  our  Proctors  meete  one  like  a  woman 
at  midnight,  they  must  not  be  suspicious;  some 
studious  youth  it  may  be,  come  from  Wickham  to 
Beacontfield,  and  daring  not  to  trauaile  by  day  for 
theeues  through  Shotouer,  is  going  to  some  learned 
man.  In  like  sort  touching  Eurphrosyna,  a  maid  of 
Alexandria  (of  Antiocke  you  name  her  by  slippe  of 
penne  or  memorie)  the  storie  is  that  shee,  desiring 
much  to  liue  in  an  Abby  like  a  Monke,  forsooke  not 
only  her  father,  who  had  brought  her  vp  to  be  a  stafie 
in  his  olde  age,  a  comfort  in  his  weakenesse  to  him, 
but  also  a  worthie,  noble,  vertuous  gentleman  to  whom 
she  was  betroathed :  clad  in  mans  apparell  she  came 
vnto  the  Abbot,  and  being  asked  of  him  who  shee 
was,  from  what  place  and  for  what  cause  she  came, 
she  answered  that  her  name  indeed  was  Smaragdus, 
and  shee  was  of  the  Emperours  Court  and  came  to 
that  Abbey  to  lead  a  holy  life,  if  shee  might  be  ad- 
mitted, and  so  finding  fauour  to  be  admitted  as  a 
man,  she  liued  there  eight  and  thirty  yeares  in  mans 
apparell."  I  apprehend  you  would  not  wish  to  hear 
much  more  from  a  book,  of  which  what  I  have  just 
read  is,  I  believe,  the  most  entertaining  passage. 

MORTON.  Certainly  not :  you  may  close  the  "  Over^ 
throw  of  Stage  Plays"  as  soon  as  you  please. 

BOURNE.  We  have  not  time  to  go  further  at  pre- 
sent.    When  next  we  meet  and  renew  this  subject, 


NINTH  CONVERSATION.  261 

we  will  enter  upon  Thos.  Heywood's  very  amusing 
pamphlet,  called  "  An  Apology  for  Actors,"  1612, 
and  upon  the  reply  to  it  by  I.  G.  published  three 
years  afterwards. 

ELLIOT.  The  further  examination  of  Lodge's  tract 
against  usurers,  we  shall  be  sure  to  remember. 


THE 


POETICAL  DECAMEEON. 


THE  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 


CONTENTS 

OF  THE  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 


The  historians  of  the  English  stage — Lodge's  "  Alarum  against 
Usurers,"  1584,  again  introduced — T.  Nash  on  Usurers  from  his 
"  Christs  Teares  ouer  Jerusalem,"  1593 — His  amends  to  Dr.  G. 
Harvey — How  the  lives  and  characters  of  Nash,  Greene,  &c.  have 
been  blackened  by  puritanical  writers  proved  from  the  "  French 
Academic,"  in  two  parts,  151)4 — Epistles  prefixed  by  T.  B.  the 
translator,  and  especially  that  before  part  II — Doubt  if  T.  B. 
were  not  Thomas  Beard,  author  of  the  "  Theatre  of  Gods  ludge- 
ments" — Beard  on  C.  Marlow,  an  Atheist — Probable  quotation  in 
the  "  French  Academic,"  from  some  work  by  Marlow  against 
Christianity — Attack  by  T.  B.  upon  Robert  Greene,  for  his  misled 
and  irreligious  life — T.  Nash's  "  Lenten  Stuffe,"  1599,  quoted — 
Allusion  by  T.  B.  to  Lodge's  defence  of  plays,  &c. — Lodge's 
*'  Delectable  Historic  of  Forbonius  and  Prisceria" — Romeo  and 
Juliet — Outline  of  Ixxlge's  story — Specimen  of  pastoral  poetry  by 
him — "  England's  Parnassus,"  1600 — Address  of  Corulus  to  Co- 
rinna,  &c. — Conclusion  of  the  history — "  Truth's  Complaint  ouer 
England,"  by  T.  Lodge,  with  quotations — Sir  J.  Harington,  1591 
and  1597,  on  plays— T.  Heywood's  "  Apology  for  Actors,"  1612, 
and  its  character — Quotation  from  his  Troia  Britannica,  1609 — 
Specimens  of  his  u  Apology" — T.  Gainsford's  "  Glory  of  Eng- 
land," 1619,  cited  regarding  the  amusements  of  London — Hey- 
wood  on  the  actors  of  his  time  and  earlier — Richard  Tarlton,  the 
jester,  &c.  and  mention  of  him  in  P.  Bucke's  "  Three  Lordes  and 
three  Ladies  of  London,"  1590—"  Tarlton's  lests,"  1611,  quoted 
regarding  his  flat  nose—"  The  Schoolemaster  or  Teacher  of  Table 
Philosophic,"  1576,  with  an  old  joke  modernized,  respecting  a 
physician's  pupil — The  third  division  of  Heywood's  "  Apology" 


266  CONTENTS. 

and  extract — Why  the  Puritans  were  such  enemies  of  the  stage 
— J.  Shirley's  "  Polititian,"  1655,  and  preface  to  B.  Jonson's 
"  Volpone"  cited — "  A  Refutation  of  the  Apology  for  Actors," 

1615,  by  J.  G Its  style,  and  extracts  from  it — J.  G  's  logical 

attempt,  and  a  parallel  from  "  Pap  with  a  Hatchet" — "  A 
sixe-fold  Politician,  with  a  sixe-fold  Precept  of  Policy,"  1609, 

by  J.  M Doubt  whether  J.  M.  were  Milton's  father  or  an 

inferior  author  of  the  name  of  Melton — Character  of  Milton's 
father,  and  of  his  book — His  chapter  on  poets,  and  attack 
upon  theatres  quoted — Bishop  Hall  on  drunken  rhymers — "  Es- 
sayes  and  Characters,  ironical  and  instructive,"  1615,  by  John 
Stephens — His  praise  of  the  English  drama — A  common  player 
described  by  him — Excursions  of  London  actors  into  the  country 
— "  Histrio-mastix,  or  the  player  whipt,"  1610,  a  play,  described 
— Allusion  in  it  to  John  Marston's  Satires — MS.  pageant  by  Mar- 
ston,  in  the  Royal  Library,  not  known — Account  of  it — Sir  W. 
Vaughan's  "  Golden  Grove,"  1608,  and  "  Golden  Fleece,"  1626 
—Cause  of  the  enmity  of  the  Puritans  to  the  stage — "  Histrio- 
mastix  :  the  Players  Scourge,"  1633,  by  W.  Prynne — Its  contents 
—First  appearance  of  women  on  the  stage  decided  by  Thomas 
Jordan's  "  Rosary  of  Rarities" — Difference  between  the  obscenity 
of  plays  before  and  after  the  Restoration — Charge  against  Prynne 
of  retracting  his  anti-theatrical  opinions  in  "  a  Defence  of  Stage- 
plays,"  and  his  reply  in  a  posting-bill,  dated  January  10,  1648 — 
"  The  Actor's  Remonstrance,  or  Complaint  for  the  silencing  of 
their  profession,"  1643,  a  rare  tract  among  the  King's  pamphlets 
—Quotations  from  it  on  the  reform  of  Actors,  and  on  their  dis- 
tresses and  those  of  their  Poets  in  consequence  of  the  restriction. 


THE 

POETICAL  DECAMEEON. 


THE  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  We  made  faster  progress  in  the  contro- 
versy regarding  the  stage  yesterday  than  I  expected. 

BOURNE.  Yet,  I  believe,  we  omitted  to  notice 
nothing  very  important,  and,  as  a  system  and  a 
series,  the  inquiry  is  entirely  new.  It  is  very  true 
that  the  laborious  historians  of  the  stage  have  sifted 
many  productions  for  minute  particles  of  informa- 
tion, yet  those  particles  give  no  correct  notion  of 
the  works  themselves  from  which  they  are  obtained. 

ELLIOT.  If  our  progress  was  so  rapid  yesterday,  it 
will  give  us  the  more  time  to-day  to  dwell  upon 
Lodge's  "  Alarum  against  Usurers,"  from  the  pre- 
fatory address  of  which  you  extracted  so  much 
yesterday,  and  the  body  of  which  you  said  contained 
some  of  the  best  specimens  of  the  author's  poetry. 

MORTON.  Even  you  feel  an  interest  about  that: 
you  begin  to  find  that  old  poetry,  and  inquiries  con- 


268  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

nected  with  it,  have  something  interesting  about 
them. 

ELLIOT.  My  conviction  has  not  been  so  tardy,  nor 
have  I  been  at  all  backward  in  admitting  it.  If  I 
had  not  found  that  there  was  something  worth 
knowing  in  the  pursuit,  do  you  imagine  that  I  should 
have  spent  so  large  a  portion  of  the  last  nine  days 
in  receiving  information  ? 

BOURNE.  Of  this  I  am  confident,  that  as  far  as  I 
am  concerned,  your  satisfaction  in  receiving  cannot 
have  been  greater  than  mine  in  giving.  Every  man 
is  happy  when  he  is  mounted  upon  his  hobby,  and 
mine  carries  double  with  the  greatest  willingness. 
But  now  for  Thomas  Lodge  and  his  "  Alarum  against 
Usurers,"  1584,  the  title  of  which  you  heard  at  length 
yesterday.  The  first  forty  pages,  exclusive  of  the 
prefatory  matter,  with  which  you  are  already  ac- 
quainted, give  some  particulars  of  the  history  of  a 
young  man  of  property,  who  had  been  made  the 
dupe  of  money-lenders  j  and  recollecting  the  claim 
Lodge  makes  to  being  by  birth  a  gentleman,  and  his 
connexion  with  players  before  he  wrote  this  tract,  it 
is  not  impossible  that  he  derived  his  knowledge  of 
the  artifices  of  usurers,  aided  by  courtezans,  from 
his  own  experience. 

MORTON.  Perhaps  so,  and  that  circumstance  may 
make  the  anecdotes  curious. 

BOURNE.  Nevertheless,  I  do  not  apprehend  that 
they  are  personal,  for  Lodge  would  not  relate  of 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  269 

himself  that  after  having  been  gulled  and  plucked 
by  these  blood-suckers  he  became  their  instrument 
in  inveigling  others,  even  if  it  had  been  true.  As 
this  part  of  the  pamphlet  refers  to  matters  of  mere 
detail,  and  as  the  topic  is  treated  at  great  length,  it 
will  not  be  necessary  to  quote  from  it.  I  would 
rather  show  you  a  short  summary  of  the  practices 
of  usurers,  from  the  pen  of  Xash  in  his  "  Christs 
Teares  ouer  Jerusalem,"  1593,  an  eloquent  and  re- 
pentant production,  in  which  a  very  severe  censure 
is  thrown  upon  the  vicious  manners  of  the  age. 

MORTON.  Is  it  not  in  that  tract  that  he  makes 
honourable  amends  to  Dr.  Gabriel  Harvey,  for  the 
many  scurrilous  attacks  Nash  had  made  upon  him  ? 

BOURNE.  It  is,  though  it  has  been  said  that  this 
confession  of  regret  on  the  part  of  Nash  was  purely 
feigned;  but  I  am  not  aware  that  this  uncharita- 
ble assertion  rests  upon  any  sufficient  foundation. 
Usurers  at  that  time  appear  to  have  been  much  the 
same  as  our  pawnbrokers,  only,  if  any  thing,  more 
fraudulent,  because  not  equally  restrained  by  law. 
Nash  is  speaking  of  gallants  and  roysters,  who  fre- 
quented expensive  ordinaries  or  gaming-houses  (in 
the  manner  described  by  Massinger,  in  Act  II.  of  his 
"  City  Madam")  who  at  last  were  reduced  to  the 
necessity  of  raising  money  on  their  chains,  bracelets, 
and  jewels :  "  But  at  the  second  time  of  their  com- 
ming  (he  observes)  it  is  doubtfull  to  say  whether 
they  shall  haue  money  or  no :  the  worlde  growes 


270  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

har'd  and  wee  all  are  mortall;  let  them  make  him 
(the  Usurer)  any  assurance  before  a  ludge  and  they 
shall  haue  some  hundred  poundes  (per  consequence) 
in  Silks  and  Veluets.  The  third  time  if  they  come, 
they  shall  haue  baser  commodities ;  the  fourth  time 
Lutestrings  and  gray  Paper,  and  then,  I  pray  pardon 
mee,  I  am  not  for  you  5  pay  me  that  you  owe  mee 
and  you  shall  haue  any  thing." 

MORTON.  And  this  practice  has  continued  down 
to  our  own  time. — In  Nichols's  Progresses,  it  ap- 
pears that  New-years'  gifts  to  Queen  Elizabeth 
sometimes  consisted  of  "  boxes  of  Lute  strings :" 
I  always  thought  that  it  meant  a  sort  of  silk 
so  called,  but  Nash  particularly  distinguishes  them 
from  "  silks  and  velvets." 

BOURNE.  Mr.  Douce,  in  his  "  Illustrations*'  (II. 
235.)  has  a  learned  note  on  usury,  but  he  neither 
refers  to  the  passage  which  I  have  read  from  Nash, 
nor  to  the  tract  by  Lodge  before  us :  probably  he 
had  never  seen  the  last,  though  the  other  is  not  by 
any  means  so  uncommon. 

ELLIOT.  You  said  that  Nash's  "  Christs  Tears 
ouer  Jerusalem"  was  an  arraignment  of  the  vicious 
manners  of  the  age:  does  he  take  any  notice  of 
stage-plays  in  the  course  of  his  pamphlet  ? 

BOURNE.  He  does  not:  he  alludes  to  a  theatre 
only  once,  and  then  he  uses  it  figuratively  thus : 
"  England  the  Players  stage  of  gorgeous  attyre, 
the  Ape  of  all  Nations  superfluities,  the  continuall 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  271 

Masquer  in  outlandish  habilaments !  great  plenty- 
scanting  calamity  are  thou  to  await  for  wanton  dis- 
guising thy  selfe  against  kind,  and  digressing  from 
the  plainnesse  of  thine  Auncestors." 

MORTON.  Nash  was  a  play-wright  himself,  and 
could  not  very  consistently  abuse  what  he  had  so 
essentially  contributed  to  support. 

ELLIOT.  I  fancy  that  Nash  was  guilty  of  quite  as 
much  inconsistency  in  abusing  the  vices  of  the  times 
in  which  he  lived,  when  he  and  his  friends  had  been 
the  partakers -and  promoters  of  all  kinds  of  iniquity. 

BOURNE.  That  they  were  very  gay,  and  in  some 
respects  unprincipled  fellows,  is  probably  true,  but 
I  apprehend  that  there  has  been  a  great  deal  of 
exaggeration  on  this  subject,  and  that  puritanical 
writers  have  much  contributed  to  blacken  cha- 
racters, which,  without  their  aid,  were  not  the 
whitest  in  the  world.  Let  me  show  you,  in  con- 
nexion with  this  subject,  a  book  of  no  great  rarity, 
but  which  contains  some  very  curious  particulars 
regarding  Nash  and  his  associates,  never  quoted  or 
referred  to,  because  nobody  thought  of  looking  for 
such  matter  in  such  a  situation. 

MORTON.  Curiosities  are  not  unfrequently  found 
by  looking  in  unlikely  places.  The  volume  is  thick 
enough :  what  is  it  called  ? 

BOURNE.  "  The  French  Academic,  wherin  is  dis- 
coursed the  institution  of  Maners  and  whatsoeuer 
els  concerneth  the  good  and  happie  life  of  all  estates 


273  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

and  callings,"  &c. :  "  newly  translated  into  English 
by  T.  B.  The  third  Edition.  Londini  Impensis 
Geor.  Bishop,  1594."  The  name  of  the  original 
author  was  Peter  de  la  Primaudaye,  a  Frenchman. 

ELLIOT.  One  would  not  be  inclined  to  accuse  any 
man  of  carelessness  in  passing  a  work  from  the 
French  with  that  title,  without  supposing  that  it 
contained  any  thing  about  Nash  or  Greene. 

BOURNE.  And  you  would  be  mistaken  if  you 
thought  that  what  I  refer  to  is  to  be  found  in  the 
body  of  the  work.  It  is  divided  into  two  parts 
or  volumes,  to  each  of  which  the  translator  T.  B. 
(whose  initials  I  have  not  been  able  to  apply)  pre- 
fixes an  Epistle:  that  entitled  "To  the  Christian 
Reader,  Grace  and  Peace,"  before  the  second  part, 
contains  the  curious  matter  to  which  I  allude.  I 
should  inform  you,  however,  before  I  show  it  to 
you,  that  the  writer  has  been  cautious  enough  not 
to  mention  any  names,  but  the  inferences  are  to- 
lerably clear  and  satisfactory.  It  also  touches  upon 
the  subject  of  stage -plays,  and  notices  the  very  rare 
defence  of  them  by  Lodge,  of  which  we  have  before 
spoken. 

MORTON.  Such  matters  are  highly  interesting : 
let  us  look  at  them  immediately,  and  postpone,  for  a 
few  moments  only,  Lodge's  tract  upon  usury. 

ELLIOT.  With  all  my  heart :  I  warn  you  not  to 
disappoint  us ;  that  you  lead  us  out  of  our  road  for 
something  worth  seeing. 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  2/3 

BOURNE.  I  do  not  think  you  will  complain,  or,  at 
least,  have  reason  to  do  so.  T.  B.,  the  author  of 
this  epistle,  I  should  tell  you,  with  the  usual  zeal 
of  his  sect,  has  been  inveighing  against  what  one  of 
his  fellows  terms  "  the  horrible  corruptions"  of  the 
age;  nor  can  we  for  a  moment  blame  the  vigour 
with  which  he  attacks  atheism,  which  he  contends 
was  fast  growing  in  this  country. 

MORTOX.  Thos.  Beard,  you  know,  in  his  "  Theatre 
of  God's  Judgments,"  first  printed,  I  believe,  in  1598, 
mentions  Christopher  Marlow  as  a  professed  atheist 

BOURNE.  What  you  allude  to  is  here,  and  with  a 
view  to  what  T.  B.  says  of  atheists,  it  is  material  to 
quote  Beard's  words,  for  it  is  quite  clear  to  me,  that 
Marlow  is  alluded  to  in  the  remarks  of  T.  B. 

ELLIOT.  For  aught  we  know,  T.  B.  the  translator 
of  "  the  French  Academy,"  was  no  other  than  Thomas 
Beard,  author  of  "  the  Theatre  of  God's  Judgments." 

BOURNE.  That  plausible  and  obvious  conjecture 
never  occurred  to  me  before.  Beard  uses  these 
remarkable  expressions  concerning  Marlow :  "  Not 
inferior  to  any  of  the  former  in  Atheisme,  and  im- 
pietie,  and  equall  to  all  in  maner  of  punishment, 
was  one  of  our  own  nation,  of  fresh  and  late  me- 
morie,  called  Martin*  (so  spelt,  but  the  name 
"  Marlon"  is  inserted  in  the  margin),  "  by  profession 
a  scholler,  brought  vp  from  his  youth  in  the  vniuer- 
sitie  of  Cambridge,  but  by  practise  a  Play-maker, 
and  a  Poet,  of  scurrilitie,  who  by  giuing  too  large  a 

VOL     II.  T 


274  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

swinge  to  his  owne  wit,  and  suffering  his  lust  to 
haue  the  full  reines,  fell  (not  without  just  desert)  to 
that  outrage  and  extremitie,  that  he  denied  God 
and  his  sonne  Christ,  and  not  onely  in  word  blas- 
phemed the  Trinitie,  but  also  (as  is  credibly  reported) 
•wrote  bookes  against  it,  affirming  our  Sauiour  to  be 
but  a  deceiuer,  and  Moses  to  be  but  a  coniurer  and 
seducer  of  the  people,  and  the  holy  Bible  to  be  but 
vaine  and  idle  stories,  and  all  religion  but  a  deuice 
of  pollicie." 

ELLIOT.  The  very  Tom  Paine  of  the  reign  of  Eli- 
zabeth ;  nothing  short  of  it.  Are  any  of  the  books 
Marlow  is  "  credibly  reported"  to  have  so  written, 
now  extant  ? 

BOURNE.  None  that  I  have  ever  heard  of  5  but,  if 
I  am  not  much  mistaken,  I  can  furnish  a  quotation 
from  one  of  them  on  the  authority  of  T.  B. :  he  has 
just  been  speaking  of  Ligneroles,  a  French  courtier 
and  atheist,  adding  that  there  was  a  parallel  to  him 
in  England,  and  continuing  thus  :  "  This  bad  fellowe 
whose  works  are  no  lesse  accounted  of  among  his 
followers,  than  were  Apollos  Oracles  among  the 
Heathen,  nay  then  the  sacred  Scriptures  are  among 
sound  Christians,  blusheth  not  to  belch  out  these 
horrible  blasphemies  against  pure  religion,  and  so 
against  God  the  Author  thereof,  namely,  That  the 
religid  of  the  heathen  made  them  stoute  and  courageous, 
ivhereas  Christian  religion  maketh  the  professors 
thereof  base-minded,  timerous  and  Jitte  to  become  a 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  275 

pray  1o  euery  one :  that  since  men  fell  from  the  re- 
ligion of  the  Heathen,  they  became  so  corrupt,  that 
they  would  beleeue  neither  God  nor  Deuill:  that 
Moses  so  possessed  the  land  of  ludea  as  the  Gothes 
did  by  strong  hand  v&urpe  part  of  the  Romane  Empire. 
These  and  such  like  positions  are  spued  out  by  this 
hel-hound,"  &c. 

MORTON.  That  certainly  corresponds  very  much 
with  what  Beard  says  of  Marlow;  besides,  if  he  be 
not  alluded  to,  upon  whom  can  we  fix  the  quotation 
he  gives  from  some  work  or  other,  and  obviously 
not  the  offspring  of  mere  invention  ?  There  is  only 
one  objection  to  it,  though  it  must  be  allowed  to  be 
one  of  some  importance,  if  it  be  true  that  Marlow 
was  killed  before  1593  (as  is  asserted),  and  it  is  this, 
that  T.  B.  writing  in  1594  speaks  of  him  in  the  pre- 
sent tense  as  still  living. 

BOURNE.  Formidable  as  that  remark  may  seem,  it 
is  easily  answered,  for  you  will  observe  that  this 
edition  of  the  French  Academy  of  1594,  purports  to  be 
the  third:  it  was  first  printed  some  time  earlier, 
though  I  am  not  now  prepared  with  the  precise 
date.  What  makes  it  the  more  likely  that  Marlow 
is  alluded  to,  is  the  fact  that  T.  B.  almost  immediately 
afterwards  proceeds  to  notice  Robt.  Greene ;  at  least 
that  is  the  conclusion  I  draw  from  what  is  said,  and, 
I  believe,  you  will  think  it  a  fair  one:  he  is  referring 
to  such  persons  in  England  "  as  treade  in  the  steppes 
of  Lamech,"  and  "  walke  in  the  wayes  of  Ismael." 

T2 


276  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

He  observes,  "  That  there  are  such  amongst  vs, 
euen  in  these  times  wherein  we  Hue,  let  the  testi- 
monie  which  one  of  that  crew  gave  lately  of  him- 
selfe,  when  the  heauy  hand  of  God  by  sicknesse 
summoned  him  to  giue  an  accompt  of  his  dissolute 
life.  He  being  one  day  admonished  of  his  friendes 
to  leaue  his  badde  course  of  life,  which  otherwise 
woulde  bring  him  to  vtter  destruction,  scoffingly 
returned  them  this  answerer  Tush  (quoth  he)  what 
is  hee  better  that  dieth  in  his  bedde  then  he  that  endeth 
his  life  at  Tiburne?  And  being  further  vrged  to 
doubt  the  losse  of  his  soule  in  Hell  fire  for  euer 
although  hee  feared  not  death  in  this  worlde,  hee 
replied;  Hell?  fWiat  talk  you  of  Hell  to  mee?  I 
knoiue  if  I  once  come  there  I  shall  Jiaue  the  company 
of  better  then  my  selfe:  I  shall  also  meete  tvith  some 
knaues  in  that  place,  and  so  long  as  I  shall  not  sit 
there  alone,  my  care  is  the  lesse.  But  you  are  madde 
folkes  (quoth  hee)  for  if  I  feared  the  Judges  of  the 
Bench  no  more  then  I  dread  the  iudgonenfs  of  Gody 
I  ivoulde  before  I  slept  dine  into  one  karles  bagges  or 
other,  and  make  merrie  with  the  shelles  I  found  in 
them  so  long  as  they  would  last.  The  voyce  of  a 
meere  Atheist,  and  so  afterwardes  hee  pronounced 
of  himselfe  when  he  was  checked  in  conscience  by 
the  mightie  hand  of  GOD.  And  yet  this  fellow  in 
his  life  time  and  in  the  middest  of  his  greatest  ruffe, 
had  the  Presse  at  commaundement  to  publish  his 
lasciuious  Pamphlets,  whereby  hee  infected  the 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  277 

hearts  of  many  yoong  Gentlemen  and  others  with  his 
poysonfull  platforms  of  loue,  and  diuellish  discourses 
of  fancies  fittes :  so  that  their  mindes  were  no  lesse 
possessed  with  the  toyes  of  his  irreligious  braine, 
then  their  chambers  and  studies  were  pestered  with 
his  lewde  and  wanton  bookes.  And  if  the  rest  of  his 
crew  may  be  permitted  so  easily  as  hee  did  without 
controlment  to  instill  their  venimous  inuentions  into 
the  minds  of  our  English  youth  by  meanes  of  print- 
ing, what  other  thing  can  wee  looke  for,  but  that 
the  whole  land  should  speedily  be  ouerflowen  with 
the  deadly  waters  of  all  impieties,  when  as  the  flood- 
gates of  Atheism  are  thus  set  wide  open."  Now  all 
that  you  will  allow  is  exceedingly  curious,  supposing 
we  cannot,  with  the  utmost  precision,  ascertain  that 
it  was  applicable  to  Kobt.  Greene,  though  I  confess 
myself,  from  all  that  is  said,  I  have  no  doubt  that 
he  is  meant.  The  greater  part  of  it  is  unquestionably 
a  gross  libel,  and  I  bring  it  forward  to  show  the  man- 
ner in  which  the  puritans,  for  their  own  purposes, 
slandered  those  obnoxious  to  them. 

ELLIOT.  All  that  you  have  read  is  very  interest- 
ing ;  but  I  have  not  seen  any  thing  that  relates  to 
Lodge,  and  his  defence  of  theatrical  performances. 

BOURNE.  It  follows  almost  immediately,  com- 
mencing with  a  general  allusion  to  satirists,  and  the 
authors  of  apologues,  who  under  the  figures  of 
beasts,  &c.  struck  at  the  great. 

MORTON.  In  his  "  Lenten  Stuffe,"  1599,  Nash  has 
a  very  apposite  passage,  which  seems  to  have  re- 


278  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

ference  almost  to  this  very  accusation.  "  Talk  I  of 
a  bear  (says  he)  Oh:  it  is  such  a  man  emblazons 
him  in  his  arms ;  or  of  a  wolf,  a  fox ;  or  a  camelion, 
any  lording  whom  they  do  not  affect,  it  is  meaned 
by." 

ELLIOT.  Very  true ;  but  let  us  hear  T.  B.  regard- 
ing Lodge,  from  whose  tract  on  usury  we  have 
already  made  a  very  long  digression. 

BOURNE.  The  epistle  is  now  almost  terminated. 
T.  B.  continues  in  these  words:  "Are  they  not  already 
growen  to  this  boldnes,  that  they  dare  to  gird  at  the 
greatest  personages  of  all  estates,  and  callings,  vnder 
the  fables  of  sauage  beasts,  not  sparing  the  very  dead 
that  lie  in  their  graues  ?  that  the  holy  Apostles,  the 
blessed  virgin  Mary,  the  glorious  kingdome  of  heauen 
it  selfe  must  be  brought  in  as  it  were  vpon  a  stage 
to  play  their  seuerall  parts,  according  as  the  humor 
of  euery  irreligious  head  shal  dispose  of  them  ?  And 
wheras  godly  learned  men,  and  some  that  haue 
spoken  of  their  owne  experience,  haue  in  their  bookes 
that  are  allowed  by  authority,  termed  Stage-playes 
and  Theaters,  The  schoole  of  abuse,  the  schoole  of 
bavodery,  the  nest  of  the  deuil  and  sinke  of  all  sinne> 
the  chaire  of  pestilence,  the  pompe  of  the  deuil,  tlte 
soueraigne  place  of  Satan,  yet  this  commendation  of 
them  hath  lately  passed  the  Presse,  that  they  are 
rare  exercises  of  vertue.  It  were  too  long  to  set 
downe  the  Catalogue  of  those  lewde  and  lasciuious 
bookes,  which  haue  mustered  theselues  of  late  yeeres 
in  Pauls  Churchyard,  as  chosen  souldiers  ready  to 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  279 

fight  vnder  the  deuils  banner :  of  which  it  may  be 
truely  said,  that  they  preuaile  no  lesse  (if  not  more) 
to  the  vpholding  of  Atheisme  in  this  light  of  the 
Gospel,  then  the  Legend  of  lies,  Huon  of  Burdeaux, 
King  Arthur,  with  the  rest  of  that  rabble,  were  of 
force  to  mainteine  Popery  in  the  dayes  of  ignorance." 
He  concludes,  therefore,  with  a  request  to  those  in 
authority,  that  all  such  books  may  be  collected  in 
the  centre  of  St.  Paul's  Churchyard  and  publicly 
burnt,  "  as  a  sweete  smelling  sacrifice  vnto  the 
Lord." 

MORTON.  The  "  commendation  of  them"  (stage- 
plays)  that  "  hath  lately  passed  the  press,"  you  sup- 
pose to  be  Lodge's  "  Play  of  Plays." 

BOURNE.  I  do  not  know  any  other  tract  of  that 
date  to  which  it  can  very  well  apply ;  the  reference 
in  what  I  just  read  to  Gosson,  Lodge's  antagonist, 
is  even  more  distinct.  We  may  now  return  to  the 
"  Alarum  against  Usurers,"  and  I  much  fear  that  the 
best  part  of  it  would  fall  under  the  burning  sentence 
of  T.  B. :  the  main  subject  of  it  is  love,  and  the 
puritan  would,  no  doubt,  have  included  it  among 
those  "  lewd  and  lascivious  books"  tending  to  the 
support  of  atheism,  although  religion  is  neither  di- 
rectly nor  indirectly  touched  upon  in  it. 

ELLIOT.  How  do  you  mean  that  the  main  subject 
of  it  is  love  ?  what  connexion  have  love  and  usury, 
unless  that  love  and  its  consequences  often  bring 
men  to  want,  and  so  compel  them  to  resort  .to  all 
kinds  of  expedients  for  raising  the  wind. 


280  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  Not  exactly  so :  I  have  already  told  you, 
that  the  first  forty  pages  are  employed  upon  usury  j 
the  next  thirty-two  pages  are  occupied  by  a  novel, 
mentioned  on  the  title-page,  called  "  the  delectable 
Historic  of  Forbonius  and  Prisceria,"  consisting  of 
prose,  interspersed  with  a  good  deal  of  poetry :  the 
last  seven  pages  are  filled  with  "  Trvths  complaint 
ouer  England,"  a  poem  in  twenty-nine  seven-line 
stanzas.  The  first  of  these  two  is  a  novel  or  history, 
in  much  the  same  style  as  Greene's  or  Rich's  pro- 
ductions of  a  similar  kind. 

ELLIOT.  As  Shakespeare  made  use  of  "  Rosalind" 
by  the  same  author,  do  you  find  any  traces  of  his 
having  seen  Lodge's  "  Forbonius  and  Prisceria  r" 

BOURNE.  I  do  not;  yet,  when  first  I  began  to 
read  it,  I  fancied  that  it  was  another  of  the  several 
early  versions  of  Romeo  and  Juliet,  under  different 
names :  Forbonius  and  Prisceria  are  the  offspring  of 
families  that  were  at  enmity  with  each  other.  The 
scene,  however,  lies  principally  at  Memphis,  and  the 
other  incidents,  not  indeed  very  complicated,  have 
no  relation  whatever  to  the  misfortunes  of  the  lovers 
of  Verona. 

MORTON.  This  novel  you  call  the  best  part  of  the 
small  volume :  in  what  does  its  goodness  principally 
consist  ? 

BOURNE.  Not  so  much  in  the  interest  of  the  story 
as  in  the  general  grace  with  which  it  is  told,  and  the 
beauty  of  some  of  the  poetry  inserted  in  its  progress. 
Forbonius,  "  highly  accounted  of  for  his  vnreprouable 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  281 

prowesse,  and  among  the  best  sort  allowed  of  for  his 
vnspekable  vertues,"  falls  in  love  with  Prisceria,  the 
beautiful  daughter  of  Solduvius,  viceroy  of  a  pro- 
vince adjoining  Memphis  :  the  father  discovers  their 
mutual  attachment,  and  removes  Prisceria  to  his 
country  residence.  The  lover  follows  her,  and  con- 
tinues his  wooing  as  a  shepherd :  in  this  character  he 
sings  to  her  a  long  eclogue,  filling  more  than  six 
pages,  but  which  contains  some  of  the  best  specimens 
of  Lodge's  talent  for  amorous  poetry  that  I  have 
seen.  It  opens  with  the  subsequent  flowing  lines  : 

"  Amidst  these  Mountaines  on  a  time  did  dwell 
A  louely  shepheard,  who  did  beare  the  bell 
For  sweete  reports  and  many  louing  layes : 
Whom,  while  he  fed  his  flocke  in  desart  wayes, 
A  netheards  daughter  deckt  with  louely  white 
Behelde  and  loude ;  the  lasse  Corinna  hight. 
Him  sought  she  oft  with  many  a  sweete  regard, 
With  sundrie  tokens  she  her  sutes  preferdj 
Her  care  to  keepe  his  feeding  flocke  from  stray, 
Whilst  carelesse  he  amidst  the  lawnes  did  play. 
Her  sweete  regards  she  spent  vpon  his  face, 
Her  Countrie  cates  she  sent  to  gaine  his  grace, 
Her  garlands  gaie  to  decke  his  temples  faire, 
Her  doubled  sighs  bestowd  on  gliding  airej" 

but  notwithstanding  these  advances  on  the  part  of 
the  young  lady,  Corulus,  for  so  he  is  called,  treated 
her  with  disdain,  and  whenever  she  drew  near  he 
drove  his  flock  in  a  different  direction. 


282  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

ELLIOT.  You  remember  the  stanza  in  my  favourite 
Italian,  beginning, 

Ingiustissimo  Amor,  perche  si  raro 
Corrispondentijai  nostri  desiri? 

BOURNE.  I  do,  but  it  is  not  so  applicable  here  as 
you  imagine ;  for  Cupid  marking  the  love  of  the 
shepherdess  and  the  austerity  of  the  swain,  makes 
their  desires  correspond,  and  wounds  the  latter,  com- 
pelling him  to  love,  even  more  strongly  than  he  had 
loathed  before :  he  now  seeks  the  object  of  his  af- 
fections, and  on  his  road  pours  out  a  most  splendid 
picture  of  her  charms :  from  this  part  I  will  make 
no  quotation,  principally  because  it  is  to  be  found  at 
length  in  "  Englands  Parnassus,"  1600,  under  the 
crowded  head  of  "  Di script ions  ofBeautie  and  per- 
sonage" (p.  400),  where  it  takes  up  nearly  three 
pages.  The  poet  then  proceeds ; 

"  Her  Corulus  with  warie  search  at  last 

At  sodaine  found,  and  as  a  man  agast 

At  that  he  saw,  drew  back  with  feare,  and  than 

Remembring  of  his  woes  his  sute  began. 

O  sweete  Corinna,  blessed  be  the  soyle 

That  yeelds  thee  rest  amids  thy  dayly  toyle, 

And  happie  ground  whereon  thou  satest  so ! 

Blest  be  thy  flocke  which  in  these  lawnes  doo  go, 

And  happie  I  but  hauing  leaue  to  looke. — 

Which  said,  with  feare  he  pawsd  and  bloud  forsooke 

His  palie  face,  till  she  that  wrought  the  fire 

Restorde  the  red,  and  kindled  sweete  desire ; 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  283 

And  with  a  bashfull  looke  beholding  him, 
Which  many  months  her  pleasant  foe  had  bin, 
She  cast  her  armes  about  his  drooping  necke." 

MORTON.  The  lines  are  as  smooth  and  musical 
as  any  I  remember  to  have  read,  even  of  a  much 
later  date :  the  shepherdess  might  have  "  a  bashful 
look,"  but  her  action  was  not  very  bashful  when  she 
threw  her  arms  about  the  neck  of  Corulus. 

ELLIOT.  Her  bashful  look  was  before  she  had 
recovered  the  surprise  of  a  declaration,  so  unex- 
pectedly made  by  one  whom  she  had  hitherto  been 
unable  to  influence. 

BOURNE.  Every  body  knows  how  much  food  for 
poetry  has  been  afforded  by  the  disappointments  and 
discordances  of  lovers,  and  Lodge  seems  to  have  set 
himself  the  task  of  showing  what  might  be  said 
when  both  hearts  were  consenting.  After  Corinna 
has  expressed  her  astonishment,  Corulus  continues 
his  speech. 


O  Nimph  of  beauties  traine, 


The  onely  cause  and  easer  of  my  paine ! 

Tis  not  the  want  of  any  worldly  ioy, 

Nor  fruitlesse  breed  of  Lambes  procures  my  noy ; 

Ne  sigh  I  thus  for  any  such  mishap, 

For  these  vaine  goods  I  lull  in  fortunes  lap : 

But  other  greefes,  and  greater  cause  of  care 

As  now,  Corinna,  my  tonnenters  are. 

Thy  beautie  Goddesse  is  the  onely  good ; 

Thy  beautie  makes  mine  eyes  to  streame  a  flood ; 


<284  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

Thy  beautie  breakes  my  woonted  pleasant  sleepe, 
Thy  beautie  causeth  Corulus  to  weepe. 
For  other  ioyes  they  now  but  shadowes  be  j 
No  ioye  but  sweete  Corinnas  loue  for  me. 
Whereon  I  now  beseech  thee  by  that  white 
Which  staines  the  lilly  and  affects  my  sight  j 
By  those  faire  locks  whereas  the  graces  rest, 
By  those  sweete  eyes  whereas  all  pleasures  nest, 
Doo  yeelde  me  loue,  or  leaue  me  for  to  die!" 

ELLIOT.  Unless  the  shepherdess  had  changed  her 
mind  in  consequence  of  the  refusal  of  the  youth,  in  the 
first  instance  to  make  any  return  to  her  advances,  or 
unless  that  "  lob  of  spirits,"  Master  Puck,  had 

•  tf  Streaked  her  eyes 

And  made  her  full  of  hateful  fantasies," 
there  seems  no  reason  for  his  fears. 

MORTON.  What  happened  in  the  case  before  us, 
as  related  by  Lodge,  is  somewhat  out  of  the  usual 
course,  if  we  may  believe  our  own  experience,  and 
Lod.  Barry's  authority. 
"  When  a  poor  woman  lias  laid  open  all 
Her  thoughts  to  you,  then  you  grow  proud  and  coy; 
But  when  wise  maids  dissemble  and  keep  close, 
Then  you,  poor  snakes,  come  creeping  on  your  bellies 
And  with  all  oiled  looks  prostrate  yourselues 
Before  our  beauty's  sun,  where  once  but  warm, 
Like  hateful  snakes  you  strike  us  with  your  stings 
And  then  forsake  us."     (Ram  Alley,  1611,  A.  V.) 

BOURNE.  Corulus  was  bound  not  to  take  it  for 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  C285 

granted  that  the  lady  would  fall  into  his  arms  with- 
out solicitation,  or  any  expression  of  contrition  5  and 
I  do  not  know  that  he  says  much  more  than  might  be 
expected  from  so  passionate  an  innamorato.  Corinmi, 
however,  gives  no  opposition,  and  "  with  a  kisse 
she  sealed  vp  the  deed,"  and  the  lovers  are  united 
and  happy.  This  "  delectable  Aeglogue,"  as  Lodge 
calls  it,  being  finished,  old  Solduvius  discovers  the 
disguise  of  Forbonius,  and  being  all-powerful,  throws 
him  into  prison  and  vigorously  rates  his  daughter. 
Both  continue  resolute,  and  at  last  the  father  is 
obliged  to  give  his  consent  to  their  union.  This  is 
the  bare  outline  of  the  story.,  and  as  you  saw  the 
day  before  yesterday  sufficient  specimens  of  Lodge's 
prose,  we  need  not  enter  more  into  detail  regarding 
itj  especially  as  we  have  yet  to  examine  several 
curious  tracts  on  the  protracted  contest  for  and 
against  theatrical  representations. 

ELLIOT.  Then  are  we  to  hear  nothing  from  the 
poem  at  the  end,  "  Truth's  complaint  over  England  ?" 

BOURNE.  I  had  forgot  that,  but  a  short  specimen 
must  suffice.  The  author  invokes  Melpomene,  his 
"  mournful  Muse,"  to  aid  him  in  relating  the  com- 
plaint which  Truth  had  made  to  him,  that  he  might 
put  it  into  verse :  a  correct  notion  of  its  style  and 
tendency  may  be  gathered  from  the  three  following 
stanzas,  which  are  interesting  as  they  refer  to  the 
state  of  the  kingdom  at  the  date  they  were  written, 
viz.  1584.  Truth  addresses  the  author  in  these 
terms,  as  an  old  acquaintance : 


286'  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

"  Whilome  (deere  friend)  it  was  my  chaunce  to  dwell 
Within  an  Hand  compast  by  the  wane, 

A  safe  defence  a  forren  foe  to  quell : 

Once  Albion  cald,  next  Britaine  Brutus  gaue, 
Now  England  hight,  a  plot  of  beautie  braue  j 

Which  onelie  soyle  should  seerae  the  seate  to  bee 

Of  Paradise,  if  it  from  sinne  were  free. 

"  Within  this  place,  within  this  sacred  plot, 
I  first  did  frame  my  first  contented  bowre  ; 

There  found  I  peace  and  plentie  for  to  float, 
There  Justice  rulde  and  shinde  in  euerie  stowre  j 
There  was  I  loude  and  sought  to  euerie  howre; 

Their  Prince,  content  with  plainnesse,  loued  Truth) 

And  pride  by  abstinence  was  kept  from  youth. 

"  Then  flew  not  fashions  euerie  day  from  Frauncet 
Then  sought  not  Nobles  nouells  from  a  farre, 

Then  land  was  kept,  not  hazarded  by  chaunce, 
Then  quiet  minde  preserud  the  soile  from  iarre; 
Cloth  kept  out  cold,  the  poore  releeued  werre. 

.This  was  the  state,  this  was  the  luckie  stowre, 

While  Truth  in  England  kept  her  stately  bowre." 

MORTON.  The  first  stanza  reminds  one  of  Gaunt's 
fine  apostrophe  to  England  in  Richard  II. 

"  This  other  Eden,  demy  Paradise  j 
This  fortress  built  by  nature  for  herself,"  &c. 
ELLIOT.  It  does,  but  they  will  not  bear  comparison. 

The  general  turn  of  the  poem  seems  to  be  objurgatory 

und  satirical. 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  287 

BOURNE.  It  is,  and  it  shows  the  tendency  of  the 
author's  mind,  at  least,  eleven  years  before  he  pub- 
lished his  "  Fig  for  Momus." 

ELLIOT.  Notwithstanding  we  have  much  before 
us,  I  should  like  to  hear  another  stanza  or  two. 

BOURNE.  As  you  please:  I  am  not  sure  whether 
the  following  are  not  the  best  lines  in  the  whole 
production. 

"  For  as  the  great  commaunder  of  the  tides, 
God  Neptune,  can  allay  the  swelling  seas, 

And  make  the  billowes  mount  on  either  sides, 
When  wandering  keeles  his  cholar  would  displease : 
So  Princes  may  stirre  vp  and  soon  appease 

The  commons  heart  to  doe,  and  to  destroy 

That  which  is  good,  or  this  which  threates  anoy. 

"  For  common  state  can  neuer  sway  amisse 
When  Princes  liues  doo  leuell  all  a  right, 

Be  it  for  Prince  that  England  happie  is  j 
Yet  haplesse  England,  if  the  fortune  light, 
That  with  the  Prince  the  subiects  seeke  not  right : 

Vnhappie  state,  vnluckie  times  they  bee, 

When  Princes  liues  and  subiects  disagree." 

ELLIOT.  Those  stanzas  are  not  ill  worded,  and 
the  simile  in  the  first  is  apt,  but  the  thought  is  only 
the  old  common  place  of  policy,  ingenia  principnm 
fata  tempo  rum. 

BOURNE.  Nor  is  there  any  thing  throughout  this 


C2S8  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

division  of  the  tract  very  new.  When  Lodge  di- 
rected his  satire  against  private  vices  and  absurdi- 
ties, he  was  certainly  happier.  Having  gone  through 
this  very  rare  volume,  we  may  now  lay  it  aside,  and 
resume  our  inquiries  regarding  the  stage.  The  last 
pamphlet  we  looked  at  yesterday  on  this  subject  was 
Dr.  Rainolde's  "  Overthrow,"  1599. 

MORTON.  In  "  a  Treatise  on  plays,"  by  Sir  John 
Harington,  said  to  be  written  about  1597*  and 
published  in  Nugee  Antiques  (I.  190.)  is  a  brief 
defence  of  Tragedies  and  Comedies,  and  a  passing 
blow  given  to  the  "  sour  censurers"  of  them. 

BOURNE.  He  had  previously  justified  them  in  his 
"  Apology  of  Poetry,"  1591,  but  we  have  less  time 
now  than  yesterday  to  go  into  these  incidental  no- 
tices :  I  will  therefore,  without  preface,  lay  before 
you  Thomas  Heywdod's  ingenious  and  amusing  per- 
formance, the  full  title  of  which  is,  "An  Apology  for 
Actors.  Containing  three  briefe  Treatises.  1.  Their 
Antiquity.  2.  Their  ancient  Dignity.  3.  The  true 
vse  of  their  quality.  Written  by  Thomas  Hey  wood. 
Et prodesse  solent  et  delectare"  London,  1612,  and 
it  is  dedicated  to  the  Earl  of  Worcester :  he  tells 
his  patron,  "  I  haue  striu'd  my  Lord  to  make  good 
a  subiect  which  many  through  ignorance  haue  sought 
violently  (and  beyond  merit)  to  oppugne." 

ELLIOT.  I  hope  he  severely  lashes  his  abusive 
opponents.  The  iron  flail  of  Talus  would  not  have 
been  misapplied  in  belabouring  them. 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  '289 

BOURNE.  On  the  contrary,  he  is  temperate  and 
argumentative,  considering  the  provocation. 

MORTOX.  One  can  scarcely  excuse  any  degree  of 
tameness :  it  would  better  become  the  meekness  of 
spirit,  to  which  the  Puritans  were  pretenders,  than 
an  author  and  actor,  whose  works  and  profession  had 
been  so  repeatedly  and  so  grossly  attacked. 

ELLIOT.  Mandeville,  somewhere  in  his  "  Fable  of 
the  Bees,"  asserts,  and  truly,  that  "  of  all  religious 
vertues  nothing  is  more  scarce  or  more  difficult  to 
acquire  than  Christian  humility,"  and  of  this  the 
Puritans  had  not  a  particle. 

BOURNE.  Heywood  is  not  always  equally  forbear- 
ing, even  in  the  tract  before  us,  and  in  his  "  Troia 
Britannica"  1609,  Canto  III.  he  handles  a  puritan 
very  roughly : 

"  He  can  endure  no  Organs,  but  is  vext 
To  hear  the  Quiristers  shrill  Anthems  sing1 ; 
He  blames  degrees  in  the  Academy  next, 
And  'gainst  the  liberall  arts  can  Scripture  bring  j 
And  when  his  tongue  hath  run  beside  the  text, 
You  may  perceiue  him  his  loud  clamours  ring 
'Gainst  honest  pastimes,  and  with  piteous  phraze 
llaile  against  hunting,  hawking,  cocks,  and  playes." 

There  is  more  of  the  same  kind,  but  this  is  the  only 
part  that  relates  to  our  subject.  ' 

ELLIOT.  Still  I  could  wish  that  he  had  hit  harder 
and  cut  deeper,  venger  la  raison  des  attentats  des  sots, 

VOL.  II.  V 


290  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

BOURNE.  The  following  is  the  mode  in  which 
Heywood  opens  his  argument  in  favour  of  thea- 
trical representations,  which,  though  not  perhaps 
coming  up  to  your  wishes,  is  tolerably  severe.  I 
think  he  pursued  a  more  prudent  course  in  not  being 
too  violent  against  so  powerful  and  increasing  a 
body;  besides  his  argument  appeared  with  the 
better  grace,  in  contrast  to  the  gross  epithets  em- 
ployed by  Gosson,  Stubbes,  and  others.  "  Moued 
by  the  sundry  exclamations  of  many  seditious  sectists 
in  this  age,  who  in  the  fatnesse  and  ranknesse  of  a 
peaceable  Common  wealth,  grow  up  like  unsavoury 
tuffts  of  grasse,  which,  though  outwardly  greene  and 
fresh  to  the  eye,  yet  are  they  both  vnpleasant  and 
vnprofitable,  being  too  sower  for  food,  and  too  rank 
for  fodder:  these  men,  like  the  antient  Germans, 
affecting  no  fashion  but  their  owne,  would  draw 
other  nations  to  be  slouens  like  them  selves  j  and 
vndertaking  to  purifie  and  reforme  the  sacred  bodies 
of  the  Church  and  Common-weale,  (in  the  true  vse  of 
both  which  they  are  altogether  ignorant,)  would  but, 
like  artlesse  phisitians,  for  experiment  sake,  rather 
minister  pils  to  poison  the  whole  body,  then  cordials 
to  preserue  any  or  the  least  part.  Amongst  many 
other  things  tolerated  in  this  peaceable  and  flourish- 
ing state,  it  hath  pleased  the  high  and  mighty 
Princes  of  this  Land  to  limit  the  vse  of  certaine 
publicke  Theaters,  which  since  many  of  these  ouer- 
curious  heads  haue  lauishly  and  violently  slandered,  I 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  291 

hold  it  not  amisse  to  lay  open  some  few  antiquities  to- 
approue  the  true  vse  of  them ."  And  after  an  apology 
on  the  ground  of  his  own  insufficiency,  he  enters  upon 
his  subject. 

MORTON.  Have  you  omitted  nothing  before  you 
came  to  the  opening  of  the  tract  ?  You  turned  over 
several  leaves. 

BOURNE.  Nothing  material,  I  believe  j  only  some 
commendatory  poems  by  Arthur  Hopton,  John 
Webster,  John  Taylor,  and  other  actors,  not  of 
much  value.  Some  lines  are  added  by  Heywood, 
that  have  been  quoted  as  a  plagiarism  from  Shake- 
speare's Seven  Ages :  the  topic  totus  mundus  agit 
histrionem  (the  motto  of  the  Globe  Theatre),  is 
almost  the  only  resemblance. 

MORTON.  Then  let  us  proceed.  Does  Heywood 
divide  his  subject  as  the  title  states  ? 

BOURNE.  Precisely,  treating  first  of  the  antiquity 
of  actors,  which  he  does  with  considerable  learning, 
and  he  dwells  particularly  on  the  influence  produced 
on  the  mind,  by  seeing  the  mighty  actions  of  ancient 
heroes  brought  upon  the  stage.  He  next  replies  to> 
various  arguments  and  authorities  advanced  by  his 
antagonists,  asking  this  question :  "  And  why  are 
not  play-houses  maintained  as  well  in  other  cities  of 
England  as  London  ?  My  answer  is  5  it  is  not  meete 
euery  meane  Esquire  should  carry  the  port  belonging 
to  one  of  the  nobility,  or  for  a  Noble  man  to  usurpe 
the  estate  of  a  Prince :  Rome  was  a  Metropolisy 

ir  SB 


292  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

a  place  whither  all  the  nations  knowne  vnder  the 
Sunne  resorted  :  so  is  London  ....  I  neuer  yet  could 
read  any  History  of  any  Commonweale  which  did 
not  thriue  and  prosper  whilst  these  publike  solemni- 
ties were  held  in  adoration." 

MORTON.  I  made  a  few  extracts  the  .other  day 
from  a  voluminous  and  entertaining  work,  by  a 
person  of  the  name  of  Thomas  Gainsford,  one  of 
which  is  not  inapplicable,  as  it  relates  to  the  occupa- 
tions and  amusements  of  London  before  the  year 
1619. 

ELLIOT.  Your  extract  will  be  very  welcome ;  but 
first,  ought  we  not  to  hear  the  title  of  the  work  from 
whence  it  is  copied  ?  , 

MORTON.  I  was  forgetting  that :  it  is  called  "  The 
Glory  of  England,  or  a  true  Description  of  the  many 
excellent  prerogatiues  and  remarkable  blessings 
whereby  she  triumpheth  ouer  all  the  nations  of  the 
World."  To  make  my  extract  more  intelligible,  I 
should  mention  that  the  author  has  been  instituting 
a  comparison  between  London  and  Paris.  "  With 
vs,  our  riding  of  horses,  musique,  learning  of  Arts 
and  Sciences,  dancing,  fencing,  seeing  of  comedies  or 
enterludes,  banquets,  masques,  mummeries,  turna- 
ments,  shewes,  lotteries,  feasts,  ordinarie  meetings 
and  all  the  particulars  of  mans  inuention  to  satiate 
delight,  are  easie  expences,  and  a  little  Judgement 
with  experience  will  manage  a  very  meane  estate 
to  wade  through  the  current  of  pleasure,  although  it 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  293 

runne  to  voluptuousnesse."  His  conclusion  is,  that 
both  living  and  pleasures  are  much  cheaper  in 
London  than  in  Paris. 

ELLIOT.  The  tables  are  a  little  turned  now,  I  fear : 
in  economy  of  living,  as  well  as  variety  and  cheap- 
ness of  amusements,  Paris  is  admitted  to  have  the 
advantage  at  present. 

BOURNE.  I  do  not  see  that  we  are  at  all  called 
upon  either  to  discuss  or  decide  that  point :  we  will, 
therefore,  continue  our  examination  of  Heywood, 
and  enter  upon  his  second  division  on  the  ancient 
dignity  of  Actors,  and  here  amid  a  great  variety 
of  learned  matter  to  support  his  point,  the  author 
inserts  the  following  interesting  notice  of  some  of 
the  principal  English  actors.  "  To  omit  all  the 
Doctors,  Zawnyes,  Pantaloones,  Harlakeens,  in 
which  the  French,  but  especially  the  Italians,  haue 
been  excellent,  and,  according  to  the  occasion  of- 
fered, to  do  some  right  to  our  English  Actors,  as 
Knell,  Bentley,  Mils,  Wilson,  Crosse,  Lanam,  and 
others:  these,  since  I  neuer  saw  them,  as  being 
before  my  time,  I  cannot  (as  an  eye-witness  of  their 
desert)  giue  them  that  applause  which,  no  doubt, 
they  worthily  merit  j  yet,  by  the  report  of  many 
judicial  auditors,  their  performance  of  many  parts 
have  been  so  absolute,  that  it  were  a  kinde  of  sin  to 
drowne  their  worths  in  Lethe,  &  not  commit  their 
(almost  forgotten)  names  to  eternity.  Here  I  must 
needs  remember  Tarlton,  in  his  time  gracious  with 


TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

the  Queene,  his  Soueraigne,  and  in  the  peoples  ge- 
neral applause ;  whom  succeeded  Wiliam  Kempt  as 
well  in  the  fauour  of  her  Maiesty,  as  in  the  opinion 
and  good  thoughts  of  the  general  audience.  Gabriel, 
Singer,  Pope,  Phillips,  Sly,  all  the  right  I  can  do 
them,  is  but  this,  that  though  they  be  dead,  their 
deserts  yet  liue  in  the  remembrance  of  many.  Among 
•so  many  dead  let  me  not  forget  one  yet  aliue  in  his 
•time,  the  most  worthy  famous  Maister  Edward 
Allen." 

MORTON.  Edward  Allen  or  Alleyn  was  the  founder 
of  Dulwich  College. 

B.OURNE.  The  same :  that  fact  is  added  in  a  sub- 
sequent edition  of  the  "  Apology  for  Actors,"  pub- 
lished after  Allen's  death. 

ELLIOT.  That  is  a  curious  quotation  as  connected 
with  the  history  of  the  stage. 

BOURNE.  It  is.  I  do  not  delay  to  speak  of  the 
persons  separately,  because  not  a  few  of  them  were 
actors  in  Shakespeare's  plays,  and  many  particulars 
have  been  collected  by  Malone,  by  Chalmers  in  his 
*'  Supplemental  Apology,"  and  by  other  writers. 

ELLIOT.  You  have  mentioned  some  of  them  be- 
fore, such  as  Richard  Tarlton  and  Kemp. 

BOURNE.  I  have,  but  I  cannot  resist  here  men- 
tioning that  in  an  old  play,  called  "The  pleasant 
and  Stately  Morall  of  the  three  Lordes  and  three 
Ladies  of  London,"  1590,  written  by  one  Paul  Bucke 
{whose  name  is  subscribed  at  the  end  "  Finis  Paule 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  295 

Bucke"),  is  a  curious  tribute  to  the  memory  of 
Tarlton,  who  had  died  only  a  short  time  before : 
Simplicity,  a  clown,  a  sort  of  inferior  Autolicus, 
enters  with  a  basket  singing  ballads  j  afterwards 
a  countryman  takes  what  is  called  "  a  picture"  of 
Tarlton  out  of  the  basket  and  asks  who  it  is  :  Sim- 
plicity pronounces  an  eulogium  upon  him,  ending 
thus  : 

"  But  it  was  the  merriest  fellow  that  had  such  iestes 

in  store, 
That  if  thou  hadst  seene  him  thou  wouldst  haue 

laughed  thy  hart  sore." 

In  the  course  of  the  scene  Wit  and  Wealth,  two 
personages  represented,  avow  their  acquaintance 
with  Tarlton. 

MORTON.  I  have  read  of  a  book  called  "  Tarltons 
Jests  :"  no  doubt  it  contains  many  curious  stories — 
I  suppose  it  is  something  like  "  Peele's  Jests." 

BOURNE.  The  difference  is  chiefly  this,  that  Tarl- 
ton's  Jests  consist  more  of  merry  sayings,  and  Peele's 
of  merry  doings.  Here  is  a  copy  of  "  Tarlton's 
lests :  Drawn  into  three  Parts. — His  Court  witty 
lests — His  sound  Citty  lests — His  Country  pretty 
lests :  full  of  Delight,  Wit  and  honest  Mirth,"  1C1 1 ; 
and  it  is  not  improbable  that  this  wood-cut  on  the 
title-page,  in  his  fool's  dress  and  playing  on  his  pipe 
and  drum,  is  a  copy  from  the  very  "  picture"  carried 
by  Simplicity  in  his  basket.  The  tract  contains  a 


29(5  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

great  many  particulars  regarding  the  stage,  but  it 
has  been  ransacked  by  Oldys,  Malone,  and  the  rest 
of  the  annotating  tribe. 

ELLIOT.  Surely  you  can  find  one  specimen;  the 
annotators  would  extract  the  minute  particulars 
without  the  least  relish  for  the  jests. 

BOURNE.  That  is  true  in  some  degree :  the  fol- 
lowing is  not  only  one  of  the  best  of  the  jokes,  but 
relates  to  a  personal  peculiarity  of  Tarlton : 

"  Tarltons  answer  in  defence  of  his  flat  nose. 

"  I  remember  I  was  once  at  a  play  in  the  Country 
where,  as  Tarltons  vse  was,  the  play  being  done, 
euery  one  so  pleased  to  throw  vp  his  Theame,  one 
among  the  rest  was  read  to  this  effect,  word  by 
word: 
"  Tarlton  I  am  one  of  thy  friends  and  none  of  thy 

foes  j 

Then  I  prethee  tell  how  camst  by  thy  flat  nose  ? 
Had  I  been  present  at  that  time  on  those  banks, 
I  would  haue  laid  my  short  sword  ouer  his  long 

shank  es." 

"  Tarlton,  mad  at  this  question,  as  it  was  his 
property  sooner  to  take  such  a  matter  ill  then  well, 
very  suddenly  returned  him  this  answere, 
"  Friend  or  foe,  if  thou  wilt  needs  know,  marke  me 

well, 
With  parting  dogs  &  bears,  then  by  the  ears,  this 

chance  fell} 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  297 

But  what  of  that  ?  though  my  nose  be  flat,  my  credit 

to  saue, 
Yet  very  well  I  can  by  the  smell,  scent  an  honest 

man  from  a  knaue." 

MORTON.  I  have  seen  that  retort  attributed  to  some 
one  else  who  happened  to  have  a  peculiarity  about 
his  "  nasal  promontory." 

BOURNE.  Very  likely  5  it  is  astonishing  to  see 
how  long  some  jokes  survive,  being  transmitted 
from  generation  to  generation,  with  slight  changes. 
Here  is  a  book  dated  as  early  as  1576,  which  con- 
tains a  jest  current  at  the  present  moment  in  many 
shapes.  It  is  called  "  The  Schoolemaster,  or  Teacher 
of  Table  Philosophic,"  principally  translated  from 
the  Latin,  and  among  the  instructions  for  the  con- 
duct of  gentlemen  when  invited  out  to  dinner  is  a 
whole  book  of  "  mery  honest  lestes,  delectable  de- 
uises,  and  pleasant  purposes,  to  be  vsed  for  delight 
and  recreation  at  the  boord  among  company." 

ELLIOT.  It  promises  a  great  deal  of  amusement. 

BOURNE.  I  cannot  say  that  it  performs  as  much  as 
it  promises  :  as  a  specimen  you  shall  hear  the  story 
I  referred  to  just  now.  ' ( A  certaine  Phisicion  hauing 
instructed  his  sonne  to  discerne  by  the  vrine  what 
meate  the  patient  had  eaten ;  marke  diligently  also, 
quoth  he,  if  thou  canst  see  any  parings  of  apples,  or 
such  like,  about  the  bed,  and  then  mayest  thou  iudge 
•that  he  hath  eaten  some  such  thing.  Afterward  it 


298  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

chaunced  that  when  this  Scholler  went  to  see  his 
pacient,  and  looking  about  the  chamber,  sawe  the 
saddle  of  an  asse,  and  not  seeyng  the  asse  there  like- 
wise, iudged  that  the  sicke  man  hadde  eaten  the 
asse ;  whiche  they  that  stoode  by,  telling  his  master, 
sayd  that  he  was  an  asse  which  iudged  of  the  sick- 
mans  disease  by  an  asses  saddle." 

ELLIOT.  The  modern  version  has  some  improve- 
ments, both  in  circumstances  and  in  the  point  with 
which  the  jest  is  t6ld. 

BOURNE.  Perhaps  soj  but  the  substance  is  the 
same.  However,  we  have  not  time  to  dwell  longer 
on  the  subject,  as  there  yet  remains  the  third  divi- 
sion of  Heywood's  tract,  to  which  we  have  not  ad- 
verted, the  true  use  of  the  quality  of  actors.  Upon 
that  we  may  be  short,  because  it  comprises  little 
more  than  a  few  stories  to  show  that  actors  afford 
useful  examples  to  the  good,  and  warnings  to  the 
vicious,  by  the  lively  representations  of  the  reward 
of  virtue,  and  the  punishment  of  crime  on  the  stage. 

MORTON.  They  may  be  omitted :  particular  in- 
stances only  weaken  the  general  argument. 

BOURNE.  They  are  inserted  as  a  counterpoise  to  the 
particular  instances  in  Stubbes,  Field,  and  others,  of 
God's  judgments  upon  the  frequenters  of  theatres,  &c. 
The  subsequent  is,  however,  interesting  in  another 
point  of  view,  as  you  will  see  in  a  moment.  "  Now 
to  speak  of  some  abuse  lately  crept  into  the  quality, 
as  an  inueighing  against  the  State,  the  Court,  the 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  299 

Law,  the  City,  and  their  gouernments,  with  the  par- 
ticularizing of  priuate  mens  humors  yet  aliue,  Noble- 
men and  others.  I  know  it  distastes  many  \  neither 
do  I  any  way  approue  it,  nor  dare  I  by  any  means 
excuse  it.  The  liberty  which  some  arrogate  to  them- 
selves, committing  their  bitternesse  and  liberall  in- 
uectives  against  all  estates  to  the  mouths  of  Chil- 
dren, supposing  their  iuniority  to  be  a  priuilege  for 
any  rayling,  be  it  neuer  so  violent :  I  could  aduise 
all  such,  to  curbe  and  limit  this  presumed  liberty 
within  the  bands  of  discretion  and  gouernment.  But 
wise  andjudiciall  Censurers,  before  whom  such  com- 
plaints shall  at  any  time  hereafter  come,  will  not  (I 
hope)  impute  these  abuses  to  any  transgression  in  us, 
who  haue  euer  been  carefull  and  prouident  to  shun 
the  like.  I  surcease  to  prosecute  this  any  further, 
lest  my  good  meaning  be  (by  some)  misconstrued: 
and  fearing  likewise  lest,  with  tediousness,  I  tire 
the  patience  of  the  fauourable  Reader,  here  (though 
abruptly)  I  conclude  my  third  and  last  Treatise." 

ELLIOT.  This  abuse  of  their  quality  in  attacking 
private  individuals  and  personal  peculiarities,  pro- 
bably did  them  more  injury,  and  more  hastened  the 
closing  of  the  theatres,  than  all  the  vices  they  brought 
into  the  state,  or  were  supposed  to  have  brought 
into  it  from  all  time. 

BOURNE.  This  was  unquestionably  the  fact,  as  far 
as  regarded  the  Puritans.  The  printer  of  the  second 
edition  of  Dr.  Rainoldes's  "  Overthrow,"  in  1629,  who 


300  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

signs  an  address  to  the  reader,  "  Thine  in  the  Lord" 
expressly  complains  that  actors  had  "  not  been  afraid 
of  late  dayes  to  bring  vpon  the  stage  the  very  sober 
countenances,  modest  and  matron -like  gestures  and 
speeches  of  men  and  women  to  be  laughed  at,  as  a 
scorne  and  reproach  to  the  world,  as  if  the  hipocrisie 
of  ludas  (if  it  were  brought  upon  the  stage),  could 
any  whitt  disgrace  the  apostles  of  our  Sauiour." 

MORTON.  This  had  been  done  with  great  effect  in 
"  The  Puritan,  or  Widow  of  Watling  Street." 

BOURNE.  And  in  several  other  plays,  both  before 
and  after  it ;  rarely  with  more  effect  than  in  Cowley's 
"  Guardian"  (afterwards  called  "  Cutter  of  Cole- 
man  Street")  first  acted  in  1641,  where  the  charac- 
ter of  Tabitha  is  broadly  and  ridiculously  coloured. 
To  this  abuse,  as  far  as  it  was  such,  James  Shirley, 
in  the  preface  to  his  tragedy  of  "  The  Politician," 
1655,  seems  to  allude,  when  he  says,  "  the  severity 
of  the  times  took  away  those  dramatique  recreations 
(whose  language  so  much  glorified  the  English 
scene),  and  perhaps  looking  at  some  abuses  of  the 
common  theatres,  which  were  not  so  happily  purged 
from  scurrility  and  vnder-wit  (the  only  entertain- 
ment of  vulgar  capacities),  they  have  outed  the  more 
noble  and  ingenious  actions  of  the  eminent  stages." 

MORTON.  Poor  Shirley  was  a  severe  sufferer  in 
consequence  of  the  abolition  of  the  theatres,  by  the 
barbarous  superstition  and  intolerant  zeal  of  the 
puritans. 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  301 

ELLIOT.  That  "  scurrility  and  under-wit,"  as  Shir- 
ley terms  it,  did  prevail  to  a  most  unlicensed  extent, 
is  admitted  on  all  hands.  Ben  Jonson,  in  the  preface 
to  his  Volpone,  bitterly  inveighs  against  those  who 
had  brought  the  profession  and  name  of  a  poet  into 
contempt  by  ribaldry,  profanation,  and  blasphemy, 
adding,  like  Nash,  some  severe  sentences  against  a 
busy  meddling  class  of  people,  who  made  it  a  sort  of 
trade  to  give  personal  and  particular  application  to 
the  general  satire  of  writers  for  the  stage. 

BOURNE.  Your  reference  is  in  point,  but  I  do  not 
wish  to  go  more  into  the  general  question  before  we 
have  looked  at  the  Answer  to  Heywood's  Apology, 
which  was  printed  in  16*15,  three  years  afterwards, 
and  purports  to  be  written  by  one  J.  G.  It  is  long 
and  laboured,  and  the  writer  certainly  took  time 
enough  to  compose  his  reply,  though  he  professes  to 
treat  Heywood  with  great  contempt,  as  unworthy  the 
notice  of  "  a  Senior,  or  learned  Clarke,"  but  who 
might  be  easily  refuted  "  by  some  single  witted  or 
illiterat  Pupill." 

ELLIOT.  What  is  the  title  he  gives  it  ? 

BOURNE.  "  A  Refutation  of  the  Apology  for  Actors, 
divided  into  three  breefe  Treatises,  &c.  j  1.  Their 
Heathenish  and  Diabolicall  institution ;  2.  Their  an- 
cient and  moderne  indignitiej  3.  The  wonderfull 
abuse  of  their  impious  qualitie."  So  that,  from  the 
very  title,  you  can  easily  judge  of  the  mode  in  which 
the  subject  is  discussed  by  this  re-compounder  of  the 


302  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

abusive  epithets,  and  retailer  of  the  anathemas  of  the 
puritans. 

MORTON.  If  he  only  goes  over  the  old  grounds  in 
the  old  style,  we  need  not  bestow  much  time  upon 
him. 

BOURNE.  From  beginning  to  end  I  do  not  think 
he  introduces  a  single  new  argument,  or  one  new 
fact  -,  indeed,  all  his  illustrations  are  professedly 
taken  from  Stubbes. 

ELLIOT.  And  how  he,  and  others  like  him,  got 
their  perfect  insight  into  all  these  horrid  vices  of 
players  and  theatres,  must  remain  a  secret,  unless 
we  conclude  that  their  fathers  were  of  Parmeno's 
opinion  in  Terence's  Eunuch. 

MORTON.  That  is,  that  frequenting  their  haunts, 
and  joining  in  all  their  enormities,  was  the  best  mode 
of  giving  his  son  a  disgust  for  them. 

BOURNE.  J.  G.  in  his  prefatory  matter,  and,  indeed, 
throughout,  treats  Hey  wood  with  infinite  hauteur, 
never  condescending  to  name  him,  but  always  term- 
ing him  Mr.  Actor,  and  telling  him,  that  he  means 
"  to  give  his  Apologie  such  a  Blurre,  that  it  shall 
not  be  able,  after  never  so  much  washing,  to  show 
a  cleane  face  againe."  His  first  book,  if  we  may  so 
call  it,  opens  with  an  assertion  (for  mere  assertions 
are  as  useful  to  J.  G.  as  to  his  predecessors),  that 
God  having  created  certain  things  for  man's  delight, 
Sathan  stepped  in  and  perverted  them  to  unlawful 
pleasures,  one  of  which  was  "  vngodly  and  obscrene 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  303 

stage-playes,  the  most  impious  and  most  pernitious 
of  all  other  vnlawfull  and  artificial  pleasures." 

ELLIOT.  Exactly  the  old  strain :  I  can  see  no 
reason  why  we  should  trouble  ourselves  with  re- 
digesting  these  crudities. 

BOURNE.  I  will  not  require  your  patience  for 
more  than  a  few  sentences  from  the  second  division, 
where  a  reply  is  attempted  to  the  denial  by  Heywood 
of  the  evil  manners  and  vicious  habits  of  all  actors. 
"And,  therefore,  (J.  G.  says)  in  vaihe  afterwards 
doth  M.  Actor  intreat  for  excuse,  not  to  misdeeme 
all  for  the  misdeeds  of  some,  seeing  it  is  the  generall 
carriage  of  them  all.  It  is  a  rule  in  Diuinity  to 
know  a  man's  conditions  and  what  hee  is,  by  the 
company  hee  doth  vsually  keepe.  Now,  if  the  best 
of  them  were  not  licentious,  why  do  they  Hue  and 
loue,  accompany  and  play  together  with  them 
which  are  ?  Were  it  not  madnesse  for  a  man  to  be 
his  companion  which  is  his  daily  reproch  r  But 
Players  all  of  them  are  licentious,  for  the  proverb  is 
Birds  of  a  feather  jtye  together.  And  therefore  if 
they  were  not  they  would  not  associate  them  which 
are,  whom  the  Syteresis  of  their  own  consciences, 
and  the  conscience  of  all  men  willeth  to  auoyd." 

ELLIOT.  "  There  is  an  air  of  plausibility  (says 
Burke  in  his  Vindication  of  Natural  Society)  which 
accompanies  vulgar  reasonings  and  notions  taken 
from  the  beaten  circle  of  ordinary  experience,  that  ia 


304  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

admirably  suited  to  the  narrow  capacities  of  some, 
and  to  the  laziness  of  others." 

BOURNE.  In  the  third  part  is  an  attempt  at  logic 
in  a  direct  syllogism — nothing  less  than  a  syllogism, 
stated  thus.  "  Whatsoeuer  is  the  Image  of  truth 
is  like  vnto  truth,  for  Images  are  said  to  be  like 
what  they  represent — 

"  But  a  Comedie  is  not  like  truth : 
Ergo — It  is  not  the  Image  of  truth." 

MORTON.  There  the  whole  question  is  assumed :  he 
takes  it  for  granted  that  a  Comedy  is  not  like  truth. 

BOURNE.  I  beg  your  pardon ;  he  says,  that  he 
establishes  his  assumption  that  a  comedy  is  not  like 
truth,  because  "  it  is  wholly  composed  of  Fables  and 
Vanities — and  Fables  and  Vanities  are  lyes  and  de- 
ceipts,  and  lyes  and  deceipts  are  cleane  contrary  to 
truth." 

ELLIOT.  A  most  sagacious  and  infallible  rea- 
soner!  Comedies  are  like  truth  precisely  for  the 
cause  he  urges  against  them,  for  if  they  were  not 
fables,  but  realities,  they  would  not  be  like  truth, 
but  truth  itself  j  nullum  simile  est  idem.  You  may 
very  safely  close  the  book. 

MORTON.  J.  G.'s  syllogism  reminds  me  of  a  ludi- 
crous one  I  saw  in  that  tract  you  showed  us  called 
"  Pap  with  a  Hatchet"  against  Martin  Marprelate 
and  his  friends. 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  305 

"  Tiburn  stands  in  the  cold, 

But  Martins  are  warm  fur ; 

Therefore  Tiburn  must  be  furred  with  Martins." 

BOURNE.  One  is  as  incontrovertible  as  the  other 5 
only  the  last  is  intended  for  a  joke,  and  the  first  for 
a  serious  argument.  As  you  are  tired  of  J.  G.'s  an- 
swer already,  I  may  here  just  refer  you,  for  I  will  do 
very  little  more,  to  two  or  three  books,  where  indeed 
stage-plays  are  spoken  of  incidentally,  but  which 
ought  not  to  be  wholly  passed  over  in  silence. — I  know 
that  this  is  in  some  degree  breaking  through  our 
rule,  but  Heywood  and  his  antagonist  have  occupied 
less  time  than  I  expected,  and  what  I  am  going  to 
offer  will  most  likely  not  require  more  than  a  few 
minutes. 

MORTON.  At  your  discretion. 

BOURNE.  The  first  book  I  shall  mention  is  called 
"  A  Sixe-fold  Politician  ;  together  with  a  Sixe-fold 
Precept  of  Policy,"  1609,  which,  perhaps,  I  should 
have  omitted,  but  that  it  is  attributed  by  Warton  to 
Milton's  father  3  but  this  is  denied  by  Dr.  Farmer 
and  others.  The  initials  I.  M.  are  subscribed  to  the 
prefatory  matter. 

ELLIOT.  There  is  surely  some  other  ground  on 
which  to  rest  so  important  a  conclusion. 

BOURNE.  There  is,  though  it  has  never  appeared 
to  me  very  satisfactory,  and  I  apprehend  you  will 
think  the  same.  The  commendatory  poems  are  by 
lo.  Dauis,  Gent.,  by  I.  S.  Gent.,  and  by  T.  P. :  now 

VOL.  II.  X 


306  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

the  second  of  these  opens  with  a  pun  upon  the  name 

of  the  author — 

"  Thy  tun  (deare  friend)  of  wit  &  hony  nows  brok 

VP," 

meaning  Mel-tun  or  Milton  j  and  if  something  of  the 
kind  were  not  intended  by  I.  S.  Gent.,  it  is  not  easy 
to  see  why  he  begins  with  a  line  so  uncouth. 

MORTON.  I  think  I  remember  to  have  seen  a 
tract  about  that  date,  by  a  man  of  the  name  of  Mel- 
ton, which  comes  nearer  the  pun  of  I.  S. 

BOURNE.  There  was  a  very  inferior  writer  of  that 
name,  and  he  was  also  called  John  j  but  he  was 
quite  incompetent  to  the  work  before  us,  which  pos- 
sesses force,  originality,  and  some  learning.  If  it  be 
true  that  Milton's  father  was  really  the  author  of  this 
4to  volume  (the  only  4to  copy  I  have  seen,  though  it 
is  met  with  in  8vo.),  it  gives  an  additional  interest  to 
what  he  says  in  his  third  chapter  "  Of  Poets." 

ELLIOT.  It  seems  probable  that  Milton's  father 
was  no  contemptible  scholar,  as  his  son  addresses 
him  in  one  of  his  Latin  poems.  Does  he  speak  in 
favour  of  or  against  poets  ? 

BOURNE .  Strongly  against  the  lower  order  of  poets 
"  who  fashion  their  wits  to  the  pleasing  of  a  vaine 
multitude  and  rabble  of  loose  liuers,"  though  he 
introduces  a  salvo,  in  parenthesis,  in  favour  of 
true  "  poetry  and  judicial  poets."  He  is  sufficiently 
strenuous  in  his  attack  upon  theatrical  representa- 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  307 

tions,  which  is  the  only  part  of  the  book  I  will  now 
read.  "  And  as  the  enterludes  may  be  tearmed  the 
Schoole-houses  of  vanitie  and  wantonnes,  so  these 
are  the  Schoolemaisters  thereof :  and  me  thinks  they 
who  have  tasted  of  the  sweete  fountaine  water  run- 
ning from  their  Academick  mothers  breasts,  by 
this,  if  nothing  else,  shold  be  deterred  from  their 
scribbling  profession,  that  they  see  their  writings 
and  conceits  sold  at  a  comon  doore  to  euery  base 
copanion  for  a  penny.  But  most  of  their  conceits 
are  too  deere  at  that  rate,  and  therefore  may  well  bee 
had  in  the  same  request  that  Tobacco  is  now,  which 
was  wont  to  be  taken  of  great  gentlemen  and  gal- 
lants, now  made  a  frequent  and  familiar  Companion 
of  euerye  Tapster  and  Horse-Keeper.  And  their 
conceits  are  likest  Tobacco  of  any  thing ;  for  as  that 
is  quickly  kindled,  makes  a  stinking  smoake,  and 
quickly  goes  out,  but  leaves  an  inhering  stinke  in  the 
nostrils  and  stomackes  of  the  takers,  not  to  be 
drawne  out,  but  by  putting  in  a  worse  sauour,  as  of 
Onions  and  Garlick,  (according  to  the  prouerbe — 
the  smel  of  Garlicke  takes  away  the  stink  of  dung 
hils,)  so  the  writing  of  ordinarye  Play-bookes, 
Pamphlets,  and  such  like,  may  be  tearmed  the 
mushrum  coceptions  of  idle  braines  ;  most  of  them 
are  begotte  ouer  night  in  Tobacco  arid  muld-sacke, 
and  vttered  and  deliuered  to  the  world's  presse 
by  the  helpe  and  midwifery  of  a  caudle  the  next 
morning." 


308  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

MORTON.  That  is  very  good,  but  Bishop  Hall 
puts  it  better  in  one  of  his  satires,  and  illustrates  it 
by  a  very  apposite  simile — 

"  With  some  pot-fury,  ravisht  from  their  wit 
They  sit  and  muse  on  some  no-vulgar  writ : 
As  frozen  dunghills  on  a  winters  morn 
That  void  of  vapours  seemed  all  beforn, 
Soon  as  the  sun  sends  out  his  piercing  beams 
Exhale  out  filthy  smoke  and  stinking  steams." 

ELLIOT.  Yet  there  is  older  authority  for  the  con- 
trary opinion, 

"  Nulla  placere  diu,  neque  vivere  carmina  possunt, 
Qua  scribuntur  aquce  potoribus" 

BOURNE.  Here  is  a  work  in  some  respects  of  a 
similar  character  to  the  last  we  looked  at,  and  which 
contains  a  vast  variety  of  entertaining  matter :  there 
were  at  least  two  editions  of  it,  and  this  is  the 
second,  which  is  the  fullest  and  completest.  The 
title  is  this,  "  Essayes  and  Characters,  ironical  and 
instructive,  &c. :  with  a  new  Satyr  in  defence  of 
Common  Law  and  Lawyers,"  &c.  By  John  Ste- 
phens the  younger,  of  Lincolnes  Inne,  Gent.  Lon- 
don 1615.  It  contains  a  good  deal  of  matter  about 
poetry  and  plays,  and  among  others  the  following 
sentence  in  favour  of  the  productions  for  the  stage  : 
"  And  never  was  in  any  nation  (it  may  be  boldly 
spoken)  that  elegance  and  nature  obserued  in  Play- 
composures,  which  is  inherent  generally  in  our  En- 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  309 

glish  Writers  at  this  day.  So  that  we  may  inuert 
the  words  of  Plautus, 

mine  nova  qua  prodeunt  fabula 

multo  siuit  meliores  qua  nummi  nostri: 

And  in  Nature  most  equall  to  these  writings  Poetick 
history  approaches  neerest :  consisting  in  the  same 
degree  of  fancy  and  an  inuention  better  furnished."  I 
did  not  take  Stephens  from  the  shelf,  however,  for 
this  opinion,  which  I  did  not  recollect  till  I  had  opened 
the  book,  but  for  two  characters,  as  they  are  called, 
or  descriptions  of  persons  representing  a  class. 

MORTON.  This  was  a  favourite  style  of  writing  at 
that  time — Bishop  Hall's  "  Characterismes"  were,  I 
believe,  the  first  specimens. 

BOURNE.  With  this  difference,  that  Bishop  Hall's 
are  characters  of  vices  and  virtues,  and  these  of 
individuals,  but  the  one,  unquestionably,  grew  out  of 
the  other.  You  will  see  what  I  mean  very  clearly 
presently.  I  will  pass  what  Stephens  says  of  "  a 
base,  mercenary  poet,"  and  read  a  very  curious  and 
shrewd  description  given  by  him  of  "  A  common 
Player,"  observing  first,  that  he  draws  a  clear  dis- 
tinction between  such  a  personage  and  the  more 
respectable  members  of  that  stigmatised  profession. 
He  says :  "  A  common  Player  is  a  slow  Payer,  seldom 
a  purchaser,  neuer  a  Puritan.  The  statute  hath  done 
wisely  to  acknowledge  him  a  Rogue  errant,  for  his 
chiefe  essence  is  a  daily  Counterfeit.  He  hath  beene 


310  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

familiar  so  long  with  out-sides  that  he  professes 
himselfe  (being  vnknowne)  to  be  an  apparant  Gentle- 
man. But  his  thinne  Felt,  &  his  silke  stockings,  or 
his  foule  Linnen  and  faire  Doublet  do  (in  him)  bodily 
reueale  the  Broker :  So  being  not  sutable  he  proues 
a  Motley:  his  mind,  obseruing  the  same  fashion  of 
his  body,  doth  consist  of  parcell  and  remnants,  but 
his  minde  hath  commonly  the  newer  fashion  and 
the  newer  stuffej  he  would  not  else  hearken  so  pas- 
sionately after  new  Tunes,  new-Tricks,  new  Deuises. 
f . , .  Hee  doth  conjecture  somewhat  strongly,  but 
dares  not  commend  a  playes  goodnes  till  he  hath 
either  spoken  or  heard  the  Epilogue;  neither  dares 
he  entitle  good  things  good,  vnlesse  he  be  heartened 
on  by  the  multitude :  till  then  he  saith  faintly  M'hat 
he  thinks,  with  a  willing  purpose  to  recant  or  per- 
sist. .  . .  The  cautions  of  his  iudging  humor  (if  he 
dares  vndertake  it)  be  a  certaine  number  of  sawcie 
rude  iests  against  the  common  lawyer ;  handsome 
conceits  against  fine  Courtiers  ;  delicate  quirkes 
against  the  rich  Cuckold,  a  Citizen;  shadowed 
glaunce  for  good  innocent  Ladies  &  Gentlewomen, 
with  a  nipping  skoffe  for  some  honest  Justice  who 
hath  imprisoned  him,  or  some  thriftie  Trades-man 
who  hath  allowed  him  no  credit;  always  remem- 
bered his  object  is  A  new  play  or  A  play  newfy 
reuiued. ...  To  be  a  player  is  to  have  a  mithridate 
against  the  pestilence;  for  players  cannot  tarry 
where  the  plague  raignes  &  therefore  they  be  seldome 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  311 

infected. ...  In  the  prosperous  fortune  of  a  play 
frequented,  he  proues  immoderate,  and  falles  into  a 
Drunkards  paradise,  till  it  be  last  no  longer— Other- 
wise when  aduersities  come  they  come  together,  for 
Lent  &  Shrove  tuesday  be  not  far  asunder  j  then  he 
is  deiected  daily  and  weekly. .  . .  Reproofe  is  ill  be- 
stowed  vpon  him  j  it  cannot  alter  his  conditions  :  he 
hath  been  so  accustomed  to  the  scorne  and  laughter 
of  his  audience  that  he  cannot  be  ashamed  of  him^ 
selfe." 

ELLIOT.  It  is  a  severe  and  a  most  illiberal  attack: 
it  shows  the  degraded  condition  of  the  theatre  at  the 
time,  and  that  players  had  no  redress  against  such 
assailants. 

MORTOX.  Stephens  writes  as  if  he  were  under  the 
feeling  of  personal  enmity :  had  he  any  cause  of  that 
kind? 

BOURNE.  I  dare  say  not,  but  it  is  his  keen  sen- 
tentious way :  a  little  further  on  he  adds,  "  Hee  is 
politick  also  to  perceiue  that  the  common-wealth 
doubts  of  his  licence,  and  therefore  in  spite  of  Parlia- 
ments or  Statutes  he  incorporates  himselfe  by  the 
title  of  a  brotherhood.  Painting  and  fine  cloths  may 
not  for  the  same  reason  be  called  abusiue,  that  players 
may  not  be  called  rogues:  For  they  be  chiefe  orna- 
ments of  his  Maiesties  Reuells.  I  need  not  multiplie 
his  character,  for  boycs  and  euery  one  wil  no  sooner 
see  men  of  this  Faculty  walke  along  but  they  will 
(vnasked)  informe  you  what  he  is  by  the  vulgar  title. 

ELLIOT.  That  puts  one  in  mind  of  the  anecdote  of 


.112  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

Foote,  after  whom  a  chimney-sweeper,  in  derision, 
cried  "  Player-man,  player-man!"  "  You  see  (said 
Foote  to  a  friend),  how  we  are  esteemed." 

BOURNE.  Very  good :  Stephens,  however,  makes 
a  distinction  in  his  censure.  "  Yet  (he  adds)  in  the 
generall  number  of  them  many  may  deserue  a  wise 
mans  commendation,  and  therefore  did  I  prefix  an 
Epithite  of  common,  to  distinguish  the  base  and  artless 
appendants  of  our  citty  companies,  which  oftentimes 
start  away  into  rustical!  wanderers  and  then  (like 
Proteus)  start  backe  again  into  the  citty  number." 

MORTON.  One  of  which  "  city  number"  we  may 
recollect  Heywood  was,  for  he  addresses  the  city 
actors  as  his  "  good  friends  and  fellows." 

BOURNE.  Mr.  G.  Chalmers,  in  his  "  Supplemental 
Apology,"  speaking  of  the  year  1625,  states  it  as  a 
curious  fact,  that  at  this  epoch  actors  belonging  to 
established  companies  of  London  often  strolled  into 
the  country  5  but  from  Stephens  it  appears  that, 
at  least,  particular  members  of  the  "  brotherhood" 
made  excursions  of  the  kind  much  earlier.  The 
whole  character  gives  one  a  good  deal  of  insight 
into  the  management  of  theatrical  concerns,  and  the 
habits  of  players  at  that  time,  though  not  very  im- 
partially written.  The  same  may  be  said  of  a  dra- 
matic production,  obviously  never  acted,  but  printed 
'by  Th.  Thorp,  in  1610,  under  the  title  of  "  Histrio- 
mastix  or  the  Player  whiptj"  but  most  of  the  par- 
ticulars have  been  gleaned  by  Malone  and  his  co- 
adjutors. 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  313 

MORTON.  From  this  play,  I  suppose,  Prynne  took 
the  title  of  his  massive  quarto. 

BOURNE.  Most  likely.  It  is  observable  that  the 
drama  is  divided  into  six  acts,  and  the  principal 
characters  consist  of  Betch,  Gutt,  and  others,  com- 
mon players,  with  the  poet  belonging  to  their  com- 
pany called  Post-hast,  who  is  represented  as  an  ex- 
temporal  versifier :  these  persons  betray  all  kinds  of 
vulgarity  and  resort  to  the  lowest  artifices  to  obtain 
a  living j  their  actions  are  moralized  upon  by  Chris- 
oganus,  a  worthy  but  neglected  scholar,  in  A.  III. 
in  lines  beginning  thus : 

"  Write  on,  crie  on,  yawle  to  the  common  sort 
Of  thickskind  auditours !  such  rotten  stuffs 
More  fit  to  fill  the  paunch  of  Esquiline, 
Then  feed  the  hearings  of  iudiciall  eares. 
Ye  shades  tryumpe  while  foggy  Ignorance 
Clouds  bright  Apollos  beauty !  Time  will  cleare 
The  misty  dullness  of  Spectators  Eeysj 
Then  wofull  hisses  to  your  fopperies !" 

MORTON.  And  that  time  did  arrive  not  very  long 
afterwards.  What  is  the  result?  How  does  the 
author  finish  his  piece  ? 

BOURNE.  The  object  is  to  expose  the  national 
miseries  and  private  vices  arising  out  of  theatrical 
performances ;  and  a  portion  of  "  Histrio-mastix" 
partakes  of  the  nature  of  an  old  morality,  Peace  and 
Plenty,  with  Virtue,  &c.  being,  in  the  opening,  exiled 


314  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

from  the  land  by  Pride,  Envy,  War,  &c.  At  the  end, 
the  players  are  shipped  off  for  some  distant  country, 
and^then  the  first  and  welcome  occupants  of  the  soil 
return.  A  long  and  fulsome  compliment  to  Eliza- 
beth as  Astrcea  at  the  end,  shows  that  the  piece 
was  written  before  her  death. 

ELLIOT.  Does  it  not  contain  some  allusions  to  the 
poets  of  the  timer  Has  Post-hast,  the  poet,  no  par- 
ticular reference  ? 

BOURSE.  I  fancy  not;  at  least  I  can  trace  none  of 
the  descriptions  given  of  him  to  any  writer  of  that 
day.  In  the  early  part  of  the  production  is  the  sub- 
sequent passage,  which,  I  take  it,  refers  to  an  ex- 
pression of  Marston : 

"  How  you  translating  scholler?  You  can  make 

A  stabbing  Satir  or  an  Epigram, 

And  thinke  you  carry  iust  Ramnusias  whippe !" 

MORTON.  You  mean  in  the  Proemium  to  the  first 
book  of  Marston's  satires  5  two  lines  which  I  re- 
collect you  read  j 

"  I  beare  the  scourge  of  just  Rhamnusia 
Lashing  the  lewdness  of  Britannia." 
BOURNE.  I  do.     I  may  not  improperly  introduce 
here  a  biographical  fact,  which  I  omitted  when  John 
Marston  and  his  satires  were  particularly  under  our 
consideration. 

ELLIOT.  Is  it  any  additional  confirmation  of  the 
hypothesis,  that  late  in  life  he  went  into  the  church, 
or  became  a  preacher  ? 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  315 

BOURNE.  No :  it  is  the  existence  of  a  production 
by  him,  among  the  royal  MS.  (18  A.  XXXI.)  not 
noticed  by  any  bibliographers,  under  the  following 
title,  "  The  Argument  of  the  Spectacle  presented  to 
the  sacred  Maiestys  of  Great  Brittan  and  Denmark 
as  they  Passed  through  London."  At  the  end  it  is 
subscribed  in  the  hand- writing  of  the  author. 

MORTON.  That  is  a  curiosity  of  great  interest, 
especially  as  it  has  hitherto  remained  unknown.  I 
suppose  it  is  a  kind  of  pageant  written  for  the  city. 

BOURNE.  You  are  right:  the  following  descriptive 
introduction  is  preceded  by  a  short  Latin  address  to 
the  Recorder  of  London — "  The  Sceane  or  Pageant 
of  triumph  presented  it  selfe  in  this  figure.  In  the 
middst  of  a  vaste  Sea,  compassed  with  rocks,  ap- 
peared the  Hand  of  Great  Brittaine,  Supported  on 
the  one  side  by  Neptune,  w01  the  force  of  Shippes, 
on  the  other  vulcan  with  power  of  lorne,  and  the 
comoditys  of  Tinn,  Lead,  and  other  Mineralls — 
Ouer  the  Hand  Concord,  Supported  by  Piety  and 
Pollecy,  satt  inthroand :  the  boddy  of  it  thus  shappt, 
the  life  of  it  thus  spake ;  whilst  the  Tritons  in  the 
sea  sounded  musique,  the  Mermaids  singing,  then  in 
a  Cloud  Concord  discending  and  landing  on  the 
cragg  of  a  rock  spake  thus." 

ELLIOT.  These  city  pageants,  from  the  accounts 
we  read  of  them  in  our  historians,  were  tedious 
mythological  exhibitions  j  worse  than  the  feasts  made 
up  from  Ovid's  Metamorphoses,  in  the  time  of  the 


316  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

author  of  the  World,  where  a  gingerbread  Poly- 
phemus destroyed  a  frozen  Acis  with  a  sugar-plum 
rock. 

MORTON.  That  was  a  display  of  the  same  pedantic 
taste  without  the  same  excuses  of  recently  acquired 
knowledge  and  splendid  exhibition.  What  does 
Concord  say  ?— flattery  of  course. 

BOURNE.  Yes,  but  I  am  sorry  to  say  that  all  the 
speeches  are  in  Latin,  and  with  some  propriety  when 
we  recollect  that  the  show  was  constructed  mainly 
to  gratify  a  foreign  King,  who  did  not  understand  a 
word  of  English.  It  has  one  merit  not  always  be- 
longing to  these  pageants,  viz.  that  it  is  short,  and 
it  concludes  exactly  in  the  following  manner : 

"  Sic  o  Sic  siat  l&to  exultate  triumpho 
Terrajerax,  marejluctisonum,  resonabilis  Eccho, 
Viuant  ceternum,  viuant  pia  numinafratres 

Vivant  Vivant. 
The  vmblest  servant 
of  yor  sacred  majesty 
John  Marston." 

MORTON.  Being  in  Latin,  it  is  not  of  the  same 
value  to  us  as  if  it  had  been  in  English ;  still  it  is 
a  little  surprising  that  all  who  of  late  years  have  been 
employed  in  investigating  the  lives  and  works  of  our 
old  poets,  should  have  omitted  to  mention  it. 

BOURNE.  The  fact  is  worth  knowing,  though  its 
importance  may  not  be  very  great.  The  King  of 


TFNTII  CONVERSATION.  317 

Denmark  visited  this  country  in  1606,  and  Sir  John 
Harington  gives  some  ludicrous  details  regarding 
his  entertainment  and  conduct  at  the  Court.  We 
will  now  return  to  our  subject.  I  shall  not  bring 
before  you  Sir  W.  Vaughan,  author  of  the  "  Golden 
Grove,"  1608,  and  of  the  "  Golden  Fleece,"  1626, 
because  he  only  refers  to  stage-plays  en  passant,  and 
is  one  of  the  most  moderate  of  their  opponents,  ob- 
serving that  the  fault  lies  as  much  in  the  hearers  as 
in  the  thing  heard,  and  lamenting  that  the  spectators 
at  a  comedy  were  not  endued  with  discretion  to 
discern  gold  from  alchymy. 

ELLIOT.  In  his  Critique  de  VEcole  des  Femmes  Mo- 
liere  very  well  observes  of  nice-nosed  fault-finders, 
IlJaut  done  que  pour  les  ordures  vous  ayez  des  lumieres 
que  les  autres  n'ont  pas :  this  was  precisely  the  case 
with  the  Puritans,  who,  because  they  had  peculiar 
organs  that  received  only  what  was  vicious,  and  re- 
jected what  was  good,  denounced  plays  altogether. 

MORTON.  The  publisher  of  the  old  edition  of  Mas- 
singer's  "  City  Madam,"  shrewdly  says  of  plays,  "  in 
a  word  they  are  mirrors  or  glasses,  which  none  but 
deformed  faces,  and  fouler  consciences  fear  to  look 
into."  This  was  probably  another  reason  why  these 
curvtE  animec  objected  to  them. 

BOURNE.  Old  Burton,  Democritus  junior,  how- 
ever rugged  in  his  life,  was  not  so  austere  in  his 
notions  as  to  object  to  them  :  on  the  contrary,  in  his 
"  Anatomy  of  Melancholy,"  first  printed,  T  believe, 


318  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

in  1621,  he  says,  that "  opportunely  and  soberly  vsed, 
they  may  be  iustly  approued,"  however  "  heanily 
censured  by  some  seuere  Catoes." 

ELLIOT.  Alluding  probably  to  Martial's  Epigram 
(L.  II.  E.  1.) 

Cur  in  Theatrum,  Cato  severe,  venisti  ? 
An  ideo  tantum  ut  exires. 

BOURNE.  We  are  now  at  length  arrived  at  what 
has  been  deemed  an  epoch  in  the  history  of  the  stage ; 
the  publication  of  that  work,  which  may  be  con- 
sidered as  the  more  immediate  cause  of  the  closing 
of  the  theatres.  I  allude  to  this  thick,  closely  printed, 
and  most  tedious  4to.  Prynne's  Histrio-mastix.  "  The 
Players  Scovrge  or  Actors  Tragedie,"  1633. 

ELLIOT.  So  that  when  writing  against  the  stage 
and  all  its  appurtenances,  he  is  guilty  of  the  absurdity 
of  calling  his  own  production  a  Tragedy. 

MORTON.  And  what  is  more,  he  divides  it  into  acts 
and  scenes  instead  of  into  chapters  and  sections. 

BOURNE.  You  will  find  it  a  task  completely  in 
vain  to  attempt  to  enter  into  the  precise  contents 
of  such  a  voluminous  production,  embracing  the 
resolutions,  as  the  author  says,  of  55  Synods ;  the 
opinions  of  71  Fathers  and  Christian  Writers  before 
A.  D.  1200;  40  Heathen  Philosophers,  &c.  besides 
English  statutes,  and  the  decisions  of  Magistrates, 
Universities,  Writers,  Preachers,  &c.  &c. 

ELLIOT.  And  all  for  the  purpose,  I  see,  of  showing. 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  319 

"  that  popular  Stage-plays  are  sinful,  heathenish, 
lewde,  vngodly  spectacles,  and  most  pernicious  cor- 
ruptions." I  wonder  how  many  times  Prynne  went 
to  the  theatre,  or  how  many  plays  he  read  to  qualify 
him  to  judge  of  their  wickedness  or  excellence. 

MORTON.  That  is  a  question  which  he  might  find 
some  difficulty  in  deciding  himself — perhaps  very 
few,  perhaps  none  at  all ;  for  with  a  singular  facility 
of  conviction  he  takes  all  that  had  been  said  by  earlier 
writers  against  the  stage  for  granted,  proceeding  as 
if  upon  the  mere  notoriety  of  the  abuse.  It  is  said 
that  the  work  was  seven  years  in  hand ;  three  in 
writing,  and  four  in  printing :  the  author  encountered 
many  preliminary  difficulties,  besides  the  subsequent 
punishment  of  pillory,  loss  of  ears,  imprisonment, 
&c.  which  to  this  stanch  Puritan  in  such  a  cause, 
were  "  trifles  light  as  air." 

BOURNE.  Besides  his  main  point,  he  touches  upon 
a  great  number  of  others  incidentally ;  such  as  the 
horrible  crime  of  men  disguising  themselves  as  wo- 
men to  play  parts  upon  the  stage.  The  period  when 
women  first  appeared  upon  the  public  boards  is  one 
of  some  curiosity.  Thomas  Jordan,  once  a  player 
at  the  Red  Bull  Theatre,  published  about  the  date  of 
the  Restoration,  or  a  little  afterwards,  a  small  book 
called  "  A  Rosary  of  Rarities  planted  in  a  garden  of 
Poetry,"  which  contains  a  prologue  to  introduce  the 
first  woman  that  ever  came  to  act  on  the  stage,  in 
the  tragedy  of  the  Moor  of  Venice.  The  epilogue 
is  also  to  be  found  there,  as  well  as  an  epilogue 


TENTH  CONVERSATION 

spoken  by  a  woman  in  the  character  of  the  Tamer, 
a  play  altered  from  Fletcher's  "  Womans  Prize." 

MORTON.  Among  Waller's  poems  is  "  a  Prologue 
for  the  Lady  Actors/'  spoken  before  Charles  II. 

BOURNE.  I  was  going  to  add,  that  it  is  worth 
while  to  observe  how  rapidly  this  most  important 
theatrical  revolution  was  effected,  because  the  epi- 
logue spoken  by  the  Tamer  was  delivered,  as  Jordan 
expressly  says,  on  June  24,  166O,  being  within  less 
than  a  month  after  Charles  II.  entered  London. 

ELLIOT.  And  this  woman  in  the  part  of  the 
Tamer  was  not  the  first  who  had  appeared  on  the 
stage,  because  the  Jirst  had  previously  come  out 
in  the  Moor  of  Venice,  I  conclude  in  the  part  of 
Desdemona. 

MORTON.  The  precise  date  of  that  representation 
is  not  given. — As  a  mere  conjecture  one  may  say, 
perhaps,  that  much  of  the  coarseness  and  obscenity 
of  our  old  plays  may  be  attributed  to  the  fact,  that  as 
there  were  no  women  on  the  stage,  the  authors  and 
actors  had  only  the  audience  to  restrain  them  in  their 
sallies. 

BOURNE.  I  doubt  whether  there  is  any  thing  in 
that  observation,  since  we  all  know  that  after  the 
Restoration  and  after  women  became  players,  the 
coarseness  of  the  plays  of  the  old  English  school 
was  exchanged  for  the  most  extravagant  grossness 
and  indelicacy. 

ELLIOT.  It  has  often  struck  me,  as  far  as  my 
knowledge  enables  me  to  judge,  that  there  is  a  clear 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  321 

distinction  between  the  offensive  parts  of  the  one  and 
the  other  :  in  the  old  school,  the  indelicacy  \vas  any 
thing  but  seductive;  it  was  intended  merely  as  a 
joke,  and  with  the  joke  its  effect  terminated  j  in  the 
French  school  of  Charles  II.  on  the  contrary,  the 
object  of  the  indecency  was  to  provoke  and  incite, 
and  vice  was  rendered  amiable  by  an  odious  in- 
genuity. It  had  indeed  sometimes  a  thin  semi- 
transparent  covering,  but  it  was  like  the  silken  robe 
of  Akina,  the  intervention  of  which  between  Rug- 
giero  and  the  object  of  his  desires,  inflamed  his  pas- 
sions and  animated  his  efforts. 

Come  Ruggiero  abbracio  lei,  gli  cesse 
II  mantOy  e  resto  il  vel  sottile  e  rado. 
Che  non  copria  dinanzi,  ne  di  dietro 
Piu  che  le  rose,  o  i  gigli  un  chiaro  vetro. 

(C.  VII.) 

BOURNE.  I  am  inclined  to  concur  in  your  observa- 
tion. But  I  must  now  hasten  to  a  conclusion,  as  I 
have  two  pieces  yet  to  show  you,  well  meriting 
notice ;  the  first  is  this  very  large  sheet  like  a  post- 
ing-bill, or  rather,  a  posting-bill  itself,  and  signed 
by  the  author  of  the  ponderous  volume  before  you, 
William  Prynne. 

MORTON.  He  seems  to  have  been  anxious  that  it 
should  be  seen :  what  is  it  ? 

BOURNE.  It  is  a  denial,  on  his  part,  that  he  had 

VOL.  ii.  y 


TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

recanted  any  of  the  opinions  there  stated :  it  is  but 
short,  and  we  shall  best  understand  it  by  reading  it. 

«  THE  VINDICATION 

"  of  William  Prynne,  Esquire,  from  some  scandalous 
Papers  and  imputations  newly  printed  and  published 
to  traduce  and  defame  him  in  his  reputation. 

"  Whereas  a  scandalous  Paper  have  been  newly 
printed  and  published  in  my  name  by  some  of  the 
imprisoned  Stage-Players,  or  agents  of  the  army,  in- 
tituled, Mr.  William  Prynne^  his  Defence  of  Stage- 
Playes,  or  a  retraction  of  a  former  booke  of  his, 
called  His  TRIOMASTIX,  of  purpose  to  traduce  and 
defame  me,  I  do  hereby  publicly  declare  to  all  the 
world  the  same  to  be  a  meere  Forgery  and  imposture, 
and  that  my  judgement  and  opinion  concerning  Stage- 
Playes,  and  the  Common  Actors  of  them,  and  their  in- 
tollerable  mischeivousnesse  in  every  Christian  State, 
is  still  the  same  as  I  have  more  amply  manifested  it 
to  be  in  my  Histriomastix,"  &c.  &c. 

William  Prynne." 

«  From  the  King's  Head  in  the  Strand, 
Jan.  10,  1648." 

MORTON.  Have  you  ever  seen  that  "  mere  forgery 
and  imposture,"  Prynne's  Defence  of  Stage-plays? 

BOURNE.  Never  :  it  would  be  well  worth  reading, 
as  it  would  no  doubt  contain  much  entertaining  mat- 
ter. The  important  fact  communicated  in  this  pub- 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  3<23 

lie  notice  luis  not,  that  I  am  aware  of,  been  noticed 
by  any  of  the  biographers  of  Prynne.  I  have  a  right, 
therefore,  to  presume,  that  the  document  is  a  rarity 
of  some  curiosity. 

ELLIOT.  Certainly ;  but  the  series  would  be  com- 
plete, if,  by  any  accident,  you  could  meet  with  a  copy 
of  this  spurious  Defence. 

BOURNE.  It  would  j  but  I  have  met  with  a  tract 
of  no  inconsiderable  value  on  the  question  we  are 
now  examining,  and  which  has  never  been  in  the 
hands  of  any  of  our  theatrical  historians. 

MORTON.  They  have  been  so  numerous  and  so 
industrious  a  body,  that  one  would  think  it  difficult 
to  glean  after  them  with  any  success. 

BOURNE.  We  will  not  discuss  their  merits,  as  we 
have  not  much  time  to  spare,  and  what  I  now  pre- 
sent to  you  is  longer  than  Prynne's  Proclamation. 
Its  date  ought  to  have  entitled  it  to  a  place  before 
what  we  last  read,  but  it  would  have  been  inconve- 
nient to  have  introduced  it  there :  it  was  published 
"  Januar.  24,  1643"  very  soon  after  all  the  theatres 
were  closed  by  the  influence  of  the  puritans.  The 
title  is  this — "  The  Actors  Remonstrance,  or  Com- 
plaint for  the  silencing  of  their  profession  and  banish- 
ment from  their  severall  Play-houses.  In  which  is 
fully  set  downe  their  grievances  for  the  restraint : 
especially  since  Stage-Playes  only,  of  all  publicke 
recreations,  are  prohibited  $  the  exercise  at  the  Beares 
Colledge,  and  the  motions  of  Puppets,  being  still  in 


394  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

force  and  vigour.  As  it  was  presented  in  the  names 
and  behalfes  of  all  our  London  Comedians  to  the 
great  God  Phoebus  Apollo,  and  the  nine  Heliconian 
Sisters  on  the  top  of  Parnassus,  by  one  of  the  Mas- 
ters of  Requests  to  the  Muses,  for  this  present  month. 
And  published  by  their  command  in  print  by  the 
Typograph  Royall  of  the  Castalian  Province,  16^3. 
London,  printed  for  Edw.  Nickson." 

MOTITON.  It  seems  a  sort  of  serious  joke—  a  good- 
natured  endeavour  to  overcome  the  animosity  of  the 
enemies  of  theatrical  amusements. 

BOURNE.  That  is  its  character,  though  it  com- 
plains of  several  grave  evils  and  acute  sufferings.  The 
name  of  the  author  or  authors  is  a  matter  out  of  the 
question.  After  setting  forth  various  calamities,  the 
petitioners  thus  address  Apollo.  "  First,  it  is  not 
unknowne  to  all  the  audience  that  have  frequented 
the  private  houses  of  Black-Friers,  the  Cock  Pit,  and 
Salisbury- Court,  without  austerity,  we  have  purged 
our  stages  from  all  obscene  and  scurrilous  jests,  such 
as  might  either  be  guilty  of  corrupting  the  manners, 
or  defaming  the  persons  of  any  men  of  note  in  the 
City  or  Kingdome  j  *  *  that  wee  have  left  off  our 
own  parts,  and  so  have  commanded  our  servants  to 
forget  that  ancient  custome,  which  formerly  rendered 
men  of  our  quality  infamous,  namely,  the  inveigling 
in  young  Gentlemen,  Merchants,  Factors,  and  Pren- 
tizes,  to  spend  their  patrimonies  and  Masters  estates 
upon  us  and  our  Harlots  in  Tavernes ;  we  have 


TENTH   CONVERSATION.  325 

c-lejine  and  quite  given  over  the  borrowing  money 
at  first  sight  of  punie  gallants,  or  praysing  their 
.swords,  belts,  and  beavers,  so  to  invite  them  to 
bestow  them  upon  us." 

ELLIOT.  It  admits,  in  fact,  some  of  the  principal 
rharges  against  those  connected  with  theatrical  per- 
formances. 

BOURNE.  They  were  not  to  be  denied.  It  after- 
wards complains  of  the  "  perpetually  at  least  very 
long  temporary  silence"  imposed  upon  Actors  "  to 
the  impoverishment  and  utter  undoing  of  themselves, 
wives,  children,  and  dependants,"  while  the  "  beast- 
linesse  of  the  Beare-Garden,"  and  senseless  puppet- 
plays  were  continued,  instancing  a  most  attractive 
one  of  Bell  and  the  Dragon,  exhibited  the  preceding 
Christmas  at  Holborn  Bridge.  It  will  only  be  ne- 
cessary to  read  one  passage  more  from  it,  which 
speaks  of  the  unhappy  situation  of  play-poets,  in  con- 
sequence of  the  closing  of  the  theatres ;  and  this 
quotation  will  conclude  our  inquiries  into  this  sub- 
ject. "  For  some  of  our  ablest  ordinarie  Poets,  in- 
stead of  their  annual  stipends  and  beneficial  second- 
dayes,  being  for  meere  necessitie  compelled  to  get  a 
living  by  writing  contemptible  penny  pamphlets,  in 
which  they  have  not  so  much  as  poetical  licence  to 
use  any  attribute  of  their  profession,  but  that  of  Qiti 
libel  audendiy  and  faining  miraculous  stories  and  re- 
lations of  unheard-of  battels.  Nay,  it  is  to  be  feared, 
that  shortly  some  of  them  (if  they  have  not  been 


32(>  TENTH  CONVERSATION. 

forced  to  do  it  already),  will  be  incited  to  enter 
themselves  into  Martin  Parker's  Societie,  and  write 
ballads.  And  what  a  shame  this  is,  great  Phoebus, 
and  you  sacred  Sisters,  for  your  owne  priests  thus 
to  be  degraded  of  their  ancient  dignities.  Be  your- 
selves righteous  Judges,  when  those  who  formerly 
have  sung  with  such  elegance  the  acts  of  Kings  and 
Potentates,  charming,  like  Orpheus,  the  dull  and 
brutish  multitude,  scarce  a  degree  above  stones  and 
forrests,  into  admiration,  though  not  into  under- 
standing with  their  divine  raptures,  shall  be  by  that 
tyrant  Necessitie  reduced  to  such  abject  exigents, 
wandring  like  grand-children  of  old  Erra  Paters, 
those  learned  Almanack-makers,  without  any  Moe- 
cenas  to  cherish  their  loftie  conceptions,  prostituted 
by  the  mis-fortune  of  our  silence,  to  inexplicable 
miseries,  having  no  heavenly  Castalian  Sack  to  ac- 
tuate and  inform  their  spirits  almost  confounded  with 
stupiditie  and  coldness,  by  their  frequent  drinking, 
(and  glad  too  they  can  get  it)  of  fulsome  Ale,  and 
heretical  Beere,  as  their  usuall  beverage." 

MORTON.  Martin  Parker,  mentioned  in  the  quota- 
tion you  just  read,  was  a  most  notorious  ballad  scrib- 
bler— the  Will  Elderton  of  the  reign  of  Charles  I. 
and  the  Protectorate. — Having  finished  this  inquiry, 
upon  what  do  we  enter  to- morrow  ? 

BOURNE.  This  examination  of  the  tracts,  for  and 
against  theatrical  representations,  will  very  fitly  in- 
troduce the  subject,  of  which  we  were  speaking  a 


TENTH  CONVERSATION.  327 

few  days  ago  -,  an  investigation  of  the  state  of  the 
stage  before  the  date  when  Shakespeare  began  to 
write  for  it. 

ELLIOT.  A  very  interesting  topic,  upon  which  I 
confess  myself  almost  wholly  ignorant. 


Thus  terminated  the  first  ten  days'  conversations 
between  the  three  friends  :  the  discussions  were  con- 
tinued to  the  end  of  the  fortnight,  to  which  the  visit 
of  Morton  and  Elliot  was  originally  intended  to  be 
limited,  but  when  the  period  fixed  for  departure  ar- 
rived, the  weather  continued  so  beautiful,  the  river 
and  the  country  near  it  so  delightful,  and  the  oc- 
cupation in  the  library  so  agreeable,  that  the  guests 
were  easily  prevailed  upon  to  prolong  their  stay,  and 
to  continue  their  inquiries. 


INDEX. 


Vol.  Page 

Abuses  stript  and  whipt,  by  George  Wither ii.  22 

Specimens.,  ii.  27,  28,  30,  41,  42,  43 

Actors  Remonstrance,  the,  1 643 ii.  323 

Actresses,  when  first  allowed,  proved  from  Jordan's 

"  Rosary  of  Rarities" ii.  319 

JEneid  of  Virgil,  translated  by  Vicars,  quoted  i.  112 

Affanue,  1 601 ,  by  C  Fitzgeffrey,  the  authors  mentioned 

in i.  12 

Alarum  against  Usurers,  by  T.  Lodge ii.  223 

described ii.  267 

Alcilia,  Philoparthen's  Loving  Folly,  1619  ii.  112 

quotations  from ii.  1 18,  1 19 

Allot,  Robert,  his  claim  to  the  compilation  of  "Englands 

Parnassus,"  1600 i.  17 

Amoi  and  Laura,  the  Loves  of,  1619,  dedicated  to  Iz. 

Walton ii.  110 

Quotations  from  ii.  1 11,  113,  114 

Ant  and  the  Nightingale  of  Father  Hubberd's  Tales 

quoted  in  reference  to  Spenser i.  100 

Apology  for  Actors,  by  T.  Heywood,  referred  to 5.  125 

quoted ii.  288,  290,  291,  293,  299 

Refutation  of  the,  by  J.  G.  1615  ..  ii.  301 

Apology  of  Poetry,  by  Sir  P.  Sidney,  Constable's  Son- 
nets before  ii.  104 

• Edw.  Wootton  mentioned  in ii.  107 

by  Sir  J.  Harington  alluded  to ii.  288 

Aj)olonius  and  Silla,  a  novel,  by  B.  Rich,  on  which 

Shakespeare  founded  his  Twelfth  Night,  examined. .    ii.  146 


330  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 

Arcadia,  Sir  P.  Sidney's,  mentioned i.  65,  67 

. Sonnet  omitted  in   *•     66 

Arraignment  of  Paris,  by  G.  Peele,  song  from    i.  123 

As  you  Like  it,  compared  with  T.  Lodge's  "Rosalynde"  ii.  170 

Ascham,  Roger,  cited  on  the  taste  for  Italian  Poetry    . .  i.     81 

. —  against  rhyme  in  English    i«     92 

Aske,  James,  quotation  in  blank  verse  from  his  Eliza- 

betha  Triumphant,  \  588     i-  1 26 

Ass,  The  Nobleness  of  the,  1 595,  examined i.  168 

—  the  admirable  properties  of  the  animal    i.  169 

its  most  melodious  voice i.  170 

Authors,  self-delusion  of,  as  to  their  fame i.     46 

Eankes'  horse,  curious  tract  relating  to,  called  "  Ma- 

roccus  Extaticus,"  1 595 i.  163 

quotations  from  it i.  164,165 

fate  of  Bankes  and  his  horse i.  1 66 

Barkstead,  Will,  his  "  Myrrha  the  Mother  of  Adonis". ..  i.  237 
Barnes,  Barnabe,  his  "  Parthenophil  and  Parthenophe," 

dedicated  to  Will.  Percy,  referred  to i.     13 

his  "  Four  Books  of  Offices,"  1606, 

noticed,  and  a  question  regarding  two  editions  of  it  i.     1 4 

. Madrigal,  by  W.  Percy. .  i.     15 


Barry,  Led.  his  "  Ram  Alley"  quoted    ii.  '27,  284 

Bastard,  Thos.  Epigrams  from  his  Chrestoleros,  1598 ..  5.  199 

on  Sir  H.  Wootton    ii.  108 

on  Fishing ii.    ib. 

on  Dr.  Beds,  Dean  of  Wor- 
cester      ii.  120 

on  Dr.  Reynolds    ii.  254 

on  Swearing  on  the  Stage ....  ii.  255 


Beard,  Tho.  his  Theatre  of  God's  Judgments   i.  128 

cited  regarding  Marlow ii.  273 


doubt  if  he  were  not  the  translator  of  "  the 


French  Academy" ii.  ib. 

Belvedere,  the  Garden  of  the  Muses,  by  Bodenham L  228 

Blank  verse,  Peele's  "  Farewell  to  Norm  and  Drake," 

a  specimen  of  i .    57 


INDEX.  331 

Vol.  Page 

Blank  verse,  inquiry  into  the  origin  of  undramatic i«     88 

early  specimens  of i.  94  to  144,  ii,  231 

Blenerhasset,  Tho.  a  writer  of  blank  verse  in    "  the 

Mirror  for  Magistrates" i.  102 

his  recommendation  to  hunt  down  the  Irish 

Kernes i.  105 

Blessed  Birth-day,  by  Fitzgeffrey,  specimen  of i.     71 

Boccacio,  his  novel  of  Titus  and  Gisippus ii.     79 

— — — —  early  English  translations  of  his  Decameron.,    ii.  196' 
Bodenham,  John,  mention  of  his  "  Belvedere,"  1600    . .     i.  228 

Bramins,  etymology  of    ii.  204 

their  plays ii.  205 

Brathwayte,  R.  his  "  Strappado  for  the  Devil,"  1615, 

quoted   i.     70 

his  "  Time's  Curtain  drawn,"  &c.  1621 ,  and 

imitations ii.     54 

. quotations  from  it    ii.  54,  55,  57 

his  "  Health  from  Helicon,"  with  a  specimen  ii.     59 

Breton,  N.  said  to  have  written  blank  verse    i.  118 

"  Cornu-copiae,  PasquiPs  Night-cap,"  assigned 

to  him   i.  329 

.  his  "  PasquiPs  Pass  and  Passeth  not"  quoted   . .     i.     ib. 

"  'Tis  merry  when  Gossips  meet,"  1 602,  perhaps 

his i.  330 

.  his  "  Mad  World  my  Masters,"  account  of  and 

extracts  from i.  331 ,  332,  333,  335 

.  poem  by  him  in  Hind's  "  Eliosto  Libidinoso"  . .    ii.       8 

— —  MS.  poem  by  him  in  praise  of  Virtue,  Wisdom, 

•&c ii.     10 

Bright  burning  Beacon,  &c.  1580,  by  Abr.  Fleming    . .     i.  1 16 
Broughton,  Rowland,  his  poem  on  the  Marq.  of  Win- 
chester      ii.  125 

Brysket,  Lod.  his  claim  to  the  poem  of  the  *'  Mourning 

Muse  of  Thestylis"  considered    i.     98 

—  his  "  Discourse  of  civil  Life"  1 606 i.     99 

Bucke,  Paul,  his  "  Three  Lords  and  three  Ladies  of 

London,"  1 590     ii.  294 

Burgh,  Sir  John,  R.  Markham's  poem  on  the  death  of . .   H.  100 
Burtons  «  Anatomy  of  Melancholy"  quoted. . ii.  317 


332  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 

Campion,  Tho.  "  Obs.  in  the  Art  of  English  Poesy"  cited  i.  118 

Castillo's  Courtier,  translated  by  Sir  T.  Hobby '•  '242 

Chalmers,  Mr.  G.  Life  of  Thomas  Churchyard,  and 

omission  in  it  ii-  73 

his  mistake  regarding  Sunday  plays ii.  244 

point  in  his  Supplemental  Apology  corrected. .  ii.  312 

Chamberlain,  Robert,  Epitaph  on  C.  Fitxgeffrey  from 

his  '  Nocturnal  Lucubrations,"  1638 '•  72 

Chapman,  George,  his  attack  in  his  2x/avu>f7of  upon 

hypercritical  readers '•  6 

his  dislike  of  commendatory  verses  i.  tt 

his  "  Epicede  on  the  Death  of  Prince  Henry," 

1612,  observed  upon  i*  24 

. his  praise  of  the  long  verse,  monosyllables  and 

English,  in  the  address  before  his  translation  of 

Homer i.  35 

his  inconsistency ;  his  "  Seven  Books  of  Ho- 
mer," 1598,  and  in  his  "  Achilles  Shield" i.  38 

. his  success  in  compound  epithets  i.  39 

. supposed  envy  of  his  contemporaries  i.  ib. 

"  Hymn  to  Hymen,"  1613,  quoted i.  1 35 

on  the  word  "  swagger" i.  29 1 

his  "  Justification  of  Nero,"  and  translation 

of  Juvenal,  Sat.  5.  examined ii.  60 

specimen  of ii.  63 

Chaucer,  Geoffry,  his  "  Man  of  Law's  Tale"  quoted  ...  i.  297 

"  Merchant's  Tale"  .  .* i.  ib. 

Chinese,  plays  of  the,  from  Parke's  History  of  China, 

1588 «.  202 

— - —  the  argument  of  one ii.  203 

Chrestoleros,  by  T.  Bastard,  quoted  i.  199,  ii.  108,  120,254,255 

.Christ's  Tears  over  Jerusalem,  by  Tho.  Nash  ii.  269 

Church  of  evil  Men,  &c.  1509,  printed  by  Pynson  ....  ii.  207 

Churchill,  Charles,  his  "  Rosciad"  quoted  ii.  32 

Churchyard,  Thomas,  his  praise  of  the  English  tongue. .  i.  37 

account  of  him  by  G.  Chalmers ii.  73 

—7  his  "  Misery  of  Flanders,  Calamity  of 

France,"  &c.  1579 ii.  74 

•  ...  quotations  from  it ii.  76,  78 


INDEX.  333 

Vol.  Page 

Churchyard,  Tho.  lines  by  regarding  Scotland ii.  85 

on  "  the  Blessed  State  of  England" ii.  86 

his  "  True  Discourse  historical,"  relating 

to  the  Netherlands ii.  88 

quoted  regarding  the  death  of  Sir  P.  Sidney  ii.  142 

recognition  of  Spenser's  allusion ii.  89 

his  praise  of  poetry,  1 596 ii.  103 


City  Madam,  by  Massinger,  referred  to   ii.  269 

Commendatory  poems  censured  by  G.  Chapman i.       Q 

Compound  epithets  of  Fitzgeffrey,  on  the i.     33 

—  of  Chapman 5.     39 

Constable,  Henry,  his  four  Sonnets  to  the  Soul  of  Sir  P. 

Sidney  before  "  the  Apology  of  Poetry,"  1595   ...  ii.  104 

Cookery  Book,'  old,  called  "  Epulario" ii.     71 

Cornu-copite,  Pasquil's  night-cap,  assigned  to  N.  Breton  i.  329 
Country-life  praised  in  4t  The  Return  of  the  Knight  of 

the  Post,"  1606 i.  219 

Courtship,  the  art  of,  from  N.  Breton's  "  Mad  World 

my  Masters" i.  333 

Cowlfy,  Abr.  his  Naufragium  Joculare,  perhaps  founded 
on  a  passage  in  R.  Junius's  "  Drunkard's  Cha- 
racter"    i.  27 

his  "  Guardian,"  afterwards  called  "  Cutter  of 

Colman-street,"  referred  to   ii.  300 

Curan  and  Argentile,  1617,  by  William  Webster i.  264 

Daniel,  Sam.  applauded  by  Fitzgeffrey  in  his  "  Drake"  i.  32 

,  Drayton,  Jonson,  Chapman,  Sylvester,  &c* ii.  48 

Dante,  on  the  word  Tragedy ii.  91 

Decker  and  Middleton's  "  Roaring  Girl"  quoted i.  20 

Deer-stealing  a  crime  committed  by  players,  &c ii.  257 

Dibdin,  the  Rev.  T.  F.  his  edition  of  Ames,  mistake  in  it  ii.  85 
, his  account  of  Walter's  "  Titus 

and  Gisippus"  ii.  80 

Dolarneys  Primrose,  1606,  plagiarism  from  Hamlet  in  .  ii.  16 

quotation  from  it  ii.  17 

Donne,  Dr.  the  oldest  English  poetical  Satirist  i.  153 

. Proof  that  his  three  first  satires  were  written 

before  1 593 •  '•  1 55 


334  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 

Donne,  Dr.  Doubts  as  to  the  printing  of  his  poems  ....  i.  1 56 

Variations  between  the  MS.  and  printed  copy  of 

his  satires,  1633 i.  159 

Allusions  in  the  satires  to  temporary  matters  ...  i.    ib. 

his  "  Progress  of  the  Soul"  quoted  on  Fishing. .  ii.  108 

Dorastus  and  Faiunia,  by  R.  Greene,  compared  with 

Shakespeare's  Winter's  Tale   ii.  177 

quoted ii.   181,186,188,189 

Donee's  Illustrations  of  Shakespeare,  note  in,  on  Usury      ii.  270 
Douland,  John,  quotation  from  his  "  Musical  Banquet," 

1610    i.  161 

specimen  of  verse  from  his  "  Introduction 

containing  the  Art  of  Singing,"  1609    i.  163 

Drake,  Sir  Francis,  FitzgefFrey's  poem  on  the  death  of  i.  6 

Drake,  Dr.  his  "  Shakespeare  and  his  Times"  mentioned  ii.  l.S 

referred  to ii.  135 

Drant,  Tho.  his  "  Medicinable  Moral,"  1 556 i.  197 

Drayton,  Mich,  applause  of,  by  Fitzgeffrey  in  his 

"Drake" i.  32 

epistle  to,  by  Tho.  Lodge  i.  1 85 

a  poem  called  "  The  Metamorphosis  of  To- 

bacco,"  1602,  dedicated  to i.  188 

Drinking  excused,  by  R.  Brathwayte,  in  his  Health 

from  Helicon  ii.  58 

Drunkard's  Character,  by  R.  Junius,  plagiarism  in, 

from  Feltham's  "  Resolves"    i.  25 

Earthquake  of  6th  April,  1 580,  list  of  writers  upon  the      i.  1 1 7 

..       Fleming's  tract  upon  the i.  116 

Eeds,  Dr.  R.  Dean  of  Worcester,  an  epigrammatist  ....  ii.  1 20 
Elegiac  Poems  on  the  great,  why  freqently  inflated  ....  i.  24 
Eliosto  Libidinoso,  1606,  by  John  Hind,  account  of  ...  ii.  o 
Elixabetha  Triumphant,  by  J.  Aske,  quotation  from  ...  i.  126' 
Elizabeth*  Queen,  her  "  Entertainment  by  the  Earl  of 

Hertford,"  in  1591,  blank  verse  in i.  133,  134 

a  writer  of  blank  verse     ii.  23 1 

Elliot,  Sir  T.  quotation  from  his  "  Governor"  relating 

to  Titus  and  Gisippus ii.     84 

Emperor  of  the  East,  Massinger's,  quoted  ii.     3ti 


INDEX.  335 

VoL  Page 

England's  Parnassus,  by  whom  compiled i.  17 

lines  in,  by  Sir  J.  Haringlon,  attributed  to  J. 

Weaver i.  18 

Fitzgeffrey's  "  Drake"  often  quoted  in i.  ib. 

long  quotation  in,  from  Lodge's  tale  of  For- 

bonius  and  Prisceria ii.  282 

English  language,  Chapman's  praise  of  the i.  35 

Churchyard's  praise  of  the i.  37 

English  Mirror,  1 586,  by  G.  Whetstone,  quoted ii.  32 

Envy,  character  of ii.  32 

Ephemerides  of  Phialo,  by  Stephen  Gosson  ii.  219 

Ejtutario,  or  the  Italian  Banquet,  quoted ii.  71 

Essays  and  Characters,  1615,  by  John  Stephens ii.  308 

Essex,  Lord,  specimen  of  a  song  by,  in  Douland's 

"  Musical  Banquet,"  1610  i.  161 

Euphues,  the  Anatomy  of  Wit,  by  J.  Lilly ii.  169 

Fairy  Queen,  speech  of,  to  Queen  Elizabeth,  in  blank 

verse i.  134 

by  Edm.  Spenser,  quoted i.  170 

Warton's  opinion  regarding  the  rhyme 

of i.  92 

Fardle  of  Fashions,  1555,  by  W.  Watreman  ii.  202 

on  the  plays  of  the  Bramins  and  interludes  ii.  204,  205 

Farewell  to  Sir  J.  Norris  and  Sir  F.  Drake,  by  G. 

Peele i.  54,  56,  58 

Farewell  to  Military  Profession,  by  B.  Rich,  1606 ii.  134 

—  first  printed  between  1578  and  1581  ii.  136 

quotations  from  it  ii.  138,  146,  151,  152,  153,  156, 

157,  158,  161,  163 

omitted  in  all  lists  of  Rich's  productions  ....  ii.  145 

Feltham,  Owen,  plagiarism,  by  R.  Junius,  from  his 

"Resolves"  i.  25 

Female  Actors,  when  first  allowed ii.  319 

the  "  Rosary  of  Rarities,"  by  Jordan, 

quoted,  regarding  ii.  ib. 

Fenner,  Dudley,  his  "  Song  of  Songs,"  1587 i.  308 

Field,  John,  bis  "  Godly  Exhortation"  regarding  the 

accident  at  Paris  Garden,  in  1 583  ii.  242 

on  the  abolition  of  plays  on  Sunday "•  243 


336  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 

Fig  for  Momus,  by  Tho.  Lodge,  examined i.  1 7 1 

Fisherman's  Taley  the,  &c.  by  F.  Sabie i.  1 36 

Fitzgeffrey,  Charles,   his  poem   on  the  death  of  Sir 

Francis  Drake,  1 596  i.  6 

article   in   the  British    Bibliographer   re- 
garding    i.  7 

quotation  from  the  preface  uf  it i.  11 

authors  mentioned  in  his  Affania,  1601    ..  i.  12 

his  claim  to  the  compilation  of  "  England's 

Parnassus,"  1600 i.  17 

satirical  stanza,  before  Storer's  "  Life  of 


Wolsey,"  1599 i.  in 

his  motive  for  writing  his  "  Drake" i.  20 

prefatory  Sonnet  to  it  quoted i.  21 

—  his  youth  and  boldness  in  the  undertaking. .  i.  21 

specimens  from  his  "  Drake"    i.  23,  30,  31 

bis  address  to  English  Navigators i.  28 

his  applause  of  Spenser,  Daniel,  and  Drayton  i.  32 

his  praise  of  writers  for  the  stage i.  41 

—  his  "  Blessed  Birth-day,"  quoted i.  71 

sermons  by  him  on  Sir  A.  Rous,  &c i.  ib. 

Epitaph  by  R.  Chamberlain  on  the  death 


of  Fitzgeffrey,  in  1636    5.     72 

Fleming,  Abr.  a  writer  of  blank  verse  in  his  Bucolics  and 

Georgics  of  Virgil,  1 589   i.  105 

specimens  of  his  translation i.  106,  108,  109 

— — —  his  relation   of  "  A   strange   and   terrible 
Wonder,  &c.  in  the  parish  church  of  Bongay,"  &c. 

1577,  with  extracts i.  114 

his  "  Bright  burning  Beacon"  on  the  earth- 
quake of  1 580,  and  poetical  specimen i.  1 16 

mention  in  it  of  8  other  writers  on  the  same 


subject  i.  117 

—  his  work  "  of  English  Dogs,"  1576,  with  a 

"  Prosopopoical  speech  of  the  Book" i.  194,  195 

Foote,  Samuel,  the  player,  anecdote  of ii.  311 

Fortescue,  Tho.  his  "  Forest,  or  Collection  of  Histories," 

1571,  quoted  i.  171 

incident  similar  to  one  in  "  All's  well  that 

ends  well ii.   195 


INDEX.  337 

Vol.  Page 
Four  Hooks  of  Offices,  1  606,  by  B.  Barnes  ..........    i.     14 

Freeman,  Tho.  his  Epigrams  quoted  regarding  Dr. 

Donne    ...................................    i.  158 

French  Academy,  the   .......................  ii.  27  1 

-  Puritanical  libels  in    ..............    ij.     jb. 

—  quotation  from,  probably  regarding 

CMarlow  ................................    ii.  274 

-  R.  Greene  -----  .................    ii.  276 

-T.  Lodge   ......................    ii0  278 

S.Gosson 


> 
Funebria  Flora:,  the  downfall  of  May.games,  by  Tho. 

Hal1  ......................................    ii.  249 

Funeral  Poems,  the  reason  for  their  disuse  assigned,  by 

R.  Brathwayte,  in  his  "  Strappado  for  the,  Devil".  .    i.     70 

Gager,  Dr.  his  University  play  of  Ulysses  Redux,  &c.  .  .  ii.  256 
Gainsfard,  Tho.  quotation  from  his  "  Glory  of  Eng- 

land," IG'iy  ......................  ".  .........  ii.  292 

Gascoyne,  George,  the  fourth  writer  of  blank  verse  in 

English,  in  his  "  Steel  Glass,  a  Satire"  ..........  i.    94 

—  concerned  in  the  Netherland  wars  .........  .  ii.  142 

—  his  "  Will  of  the  Devil,"  &c.  mentioned  .....  ii.  209 
Goddard,  William,  his  "  Mastiff-whelp"  mentioned  ____  i.  304 

—  his  "  Satirical  Dialogue  between  Alexander 

and  Diogenes"  examined    ....................    i.  305 

-  William,  his   "  Satirical  Dialogue  between. 
Alexander  and  Diogenes,"  its  date  ascertained  ....     i.  307 

—  extracts  from     i.  307,  309,  310,  31  1,  312,  313,  315 

—  his  "  Owl's  arraignment,"  a  satire  ..........     i.  3  1  6 

—  quotations  from     ......     i.  318,  319,  320,  326,  327 

Golde,  a  name  assumed  by  Lodge  in  his  "  Fig  for  Momus"    i.  181 

ii.     17 

Golden  age  of  English  poetry    ....................  i.     10 

Golden  Grove  and  Golden  Fleece,  by  Sir  W.  Vaughan, 

mentioned    ................................  ii.  317 

Golding,  Arthur,  concluded  Sir  P.  Sidney's  Translation 

of  de  Mornay  on  the  trueness  of  Christianity  ......  i.     69 

-  his  Discourse  on  the  Earthquake,  1580    ......  ii.  244 

—  regarding  Sunday  plays   .............  ii.  245 

VOL.  II.  2 


338  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 

Googe,  Barnabe,  his  character  and  works ii.  121 

his  "  Proverbs  of  Sir  J.  L.  de  Mendoza,"  1579  ii.  122 

quotations  from ii.  1 23,  1 24 

Gossan,  Stephen,  his  "  Plays  confuted,  in  five  Actions"  ii.  208, 

221,  226 

—  his  three  dramatic  pieces    ii.  210 

his  "  School  of  Abuse,"  1579,  quoted    ii.  210,  212,  213 

. specimens  of  his  poetry ii.  215,216 

~  his  "  Ephemerides  of  Phialo"  quoted ii.  219,  220 

"-  a  writer  of  blank  verse    ii.  23 1 

probable  allusion  to  in  "  the  French  Academy". .    ii.  278 

Governor,  the,  by  Sir  T.  Elliot,  quoted ii.    84 

Gower,  John,  his  ''  Confessio  Araantis"  quoted i.  293 

—  on  Envy. , ii.    32 

Greene,  Robert,  a  writer  of  blank  verse  in  his  "  Peri- 

medes,  the  Black-smith,"  1 588 i.  118 

Bradamant's  Song,  from  it i.  119 

Melissa's  Song,  from  the  same L  121 

his  "  Orpharion"  in  praise  of  women,  quoted  ...  i.  296 

translation  from  Anacreon  in ....  i.  299 

his  "  Never  too  Late"  referred  to i.  298,  ii.     14 

Roundelay  by  him    inserted  by   Hind  in  his 

«  Eliosto  Libidinoso,"  1606 ii.      12 

his  "  Dorastus  and  Fawnia"  examined ii.  177 

his  "  Mirror  of  Modesty,"  1584,  quoted ii.  179 

the  attack  made  upon  his  motto,  and  his  defence 


of  himself  and  blank  verse ii.  183 

probable  allusion  to  in  the  "  French  Academy"  ii.  278 

Greepe,  Tho.  his  "  True  and  perfect  News"  regarding 
the  exploits  of  Sir  F.  Drake,  1587,  and  its  ab- 
surdity   »•  43 

extracts  from  it    i.  44,  45,  47 

Grenvtile,  Sir  R.  Tragedy  of,  by  Jervis  Markham    ii.     92 

— —  quotations  from  ...    ii.  93,  94,  95 

prose  tract  regarding  his  death ii.     96 

poem  by ii.  101 

Grimoald,  Nicholas,  the  second  writer  of  blank  verse  in 

English    i.     94 

ruvo»XE«»,  or  General  History  of  Women,  by  T.  Heywood  i.  322 


INDEX.  339 

Vol.  Page 
Gnsman   of  Alfarache,  Life  of,   similarity  between   a 

passage  in  and  in  Paradise  Lost i.  246 

Hall,  Bishop,  his  claim  to  be  the  first  English  satirist.,  i.  154 

—  Gray's  praise  of  his  satires    i.  197 

—  his  congratulatory  poem  on  the  accession  of  James 

1 i.  198 

value  of  his  satires  , j.  226 

—  his  Epigram  on  Marston    i.  232 

—  on  drunken  poets jj.  399 

Hall,  Tho.  his  "  Histrio-mastix,  a  whip  for  Webster,".,  i.  260 

—  his  "  Fuiifbria   Flora,   the   downfall   of  May- 
games,"  and  quotations  from  it ii.  249,  250,  251,  252 

Hamlet  plagiarised  in  ««  Dolarney's  Primrose,"  1606. . .  ii.     16 
Haringto*,    Sir    John,    his    translation    of    Orlandn 

Furioso,  1 59 1 i      ig 

—  Sonnet  by  Sir  P.  Sidney  supplied  in  it  ....  i.     66 
his  *'  Metamorphosis  of  Ajax,"  1596,  and 

quotations 5.  199,  201,  202,  203,  204,  205 

his  Epigrams  and  their  merits    i.  277 

—  hi^  "  Treatise  of  Play"  and  "  Apology  of 
Poetry"  mentioned ii.  288 

Hatton,  Sir  C.  the  patron  of  B  Rich ii.  137 

—  his  poetry  and  productions ii.     ib. 

—  his  House  at  Holdenby  described  by  Rich ii.  138 

Health  from  Helicon,  by  R.  Brathwayte   ii.     58 

Henrii,  Prince,  G.  Chapman's  Epicede  upon  i.     24 

Hero  and  LeanJer,  travestie  of ii.    72 

Hertford,  Earl  of,  his  entertainment  to  Queen  Elizabeth .  i.   132 
Heywood,  John,  the  Epigrammatist,  quotation  from  Sir 

John  Harington  regarding  him   i.   198 

—  and  Sir  John  Davies,  with  Bastard's  epigram 

upon  them i.   1 99 

his  Spider  and  Fly,  1 556,  noticed i.  200 

Heywood,  Tho.  his  "  English  Traveller"  the  origin  of 

Cowley's  Naufragium  Joculare  i.     27 

his  notice  of  the  change  from  rhyme  to  blank- 
verse  in  theatrical  representations i.     89 

on  the  adoption  of  classic  measures  in  English  L  124 

Z2 


340  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 
Heywood,  his  blank  verse  in  his  "  Pleasant  Dialogues 

and  Dramas,"  1 6'37    i.  125 

his  "Trqja  Britannica"  quoted. .     i.   172,321  ii.  289 

his  ruva/xe/ov,  1 G'J4,  referred  to i.  222 

song  by,  in  imitation  of  Wither i.  325 

his  "  Apology  for  Actors"  examined ii.  288 

Higgins,  John,  quoted  from  "  Mirror  for  Magistrates". .  i.     30 

a  writer  of  blank  verse  in  the  "  Mirror  for 

Magistrates,"  and  specimen i.  101 

Hind,  John,  his  "  Eliosto  Libidinoso"  examined   ii.      5 

"  Fancy"  by  N.  B.  in  it,  quoted ii.       8 

"  Roundelay,"  by  Robert  Greene,  in  the  same. .  ii.     12 

his  title  copied  from  Greene's  "  Card  of  Fancy"  ii.     15 

-Dinohin's,  or  John  Hind's  Sonnet ii.   1 5,  19 

Specimen,  in  prose,  from  the  same ii.     18 

Histriomastix,  1610,  a  dramatic  piece  called    ii.  312 

—  extract  from ii.  313 

reference  to  Marston  in ii.  314 

by  W.  Prynne,  1 633,  described    ii.  3 1 8 

Hobbes,  Tho.  translation  of  the  Iliad  and  Odyssey,  1684  i.   1 12 

Hobby.  Sir  T.  his  translation  of  "  Castilio's  Courtier" ...  i.  242 

Hume,  Mrs.  her  translation  of  Petrarch's  Triumphs  ....  i.     77 

Hutton,  Henry,  his  "  Folly's  Anatomy" i.  276 

James  I.  and  the  King  of  Denmark,  Marston's  pageant 

in  honour  of, ii.  315 

James  IV.  of  Scotland,  R.  Greene's  play  of,  |r>98,  i.  135 

Iceland  dogs,  described  by  A.  Fleming  in  his  tract  "  Of 

English  Dogs,"  1576 i.  195 

Iliad  and  Odyssey,  translated  by  Hobbes,  noticed i.  1 12 

Johnson,  Dr.  his  opinion  of  detached  extracts i.  22 

Jonson,  Ben.,  his  Underwoods  quoted  i.  30 

his  Epigram  to  Lady  Bedford,  with  a  copy 

of  Dr.  Donne's  Satires i.  155 

quotation  from  the  Apologetical  Dialogue 

annexed  to  his  •'  Poetaster" ii.  62 

preface  to  his  "  Volpone"  mentioned ii.  301 


Jordan,  Thomas,  his  "  Rosary  of  Rarities  planted  in  a 

garden  of  Poetry" ii. 


INDEX.  341 

Vol.  Page 

Jordan,  Tho.  mention  of  female  actors ii.     ib. 

Junius,  R.  his  "  Drunkard's  Character,"  1638,  and  pla- 
giarism in  it  from  Feltham's  "  Resolves"   i.     25 

the  Rev.  H.  J.  Todd's  praise  of  the  book i.     26 

passage  in,  on  which  Cowley  may  have  founded 

his  Xaiifragium  Joculare i.     27 

Juvenal,  translation  of  his  5th  sat.  by  George  Chapman  . .  ii.     60 

Kendall,  Timothy,  his  "  Flowers  of  Epigrams"  noticed.,  i.  279 

Keruynge,  Wynkyn  de  Worde's  book  of ii.  70 

A'irton,  H.  poem  by  Gosson  at  the  end  of  his  "  Mirror 

of  Man's  life" ii.  216' 

Knight  of  the  Post,  the  Return  of,  1606',  an  answer  to 

Nash's  "  Supplication  of  Pierce  Penniless" i.  216 

quotations  from  the  prose  and 

poetry  in  it i.  2 10',  219,  220,  222,  223,  224 

iMmb,  Charles,  his  Specimens  of  English  Dramatic  Poets  i.      10 

Lewicke,  Edward,  his  history  of  Titus  and  Gisippus,  1 5G2  ii.     BO 

quotation  from   his  "  Titus  and  Gi- 

seppus" - • "•     ' 


further  specimens    ..............    ii.  82,  83 

Lilly,  John,  his  rustication  from  Oxford  ..............   ii.  169 

Lodge,  Dr.  Tho.  ,  the  second  English  satirist  ..........     i.   1  55 

__  bis  "Fig  for  Momus,"  1595,    ......     i.  171 

__  his  celebrity  and  productions     i.  172,  173,  174 
___  address  before  his  "  Fig  for  Momus".  .     i.  175 
___  specimens  of  his  satires  ____       i.   177,  179,  180 

-  _  —  .  -  of  his  eclogues  ............     i.  181 

of  his  epistles   ........    i.  185,  196 


describes  himself  under  the  name  of 
Golde 

his  •«  Rosalynde;    Euphues   golden 


Legacy,"  1590 »•   16'8 

-  his  "  Play  of  Plays" ii.  209,  222 

his  "  Alarum  against  Usurers,"  1584, 


containing  a  reply  to  Stephen  Gosson ii.  223 

quotations  from  it  regard- 
ing S.  Gossoa »•  224,  225,  286,  227 


34<2  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 

Lodge,  Dr.  Tho.  conjecture  regarding  his  family ii.  228 

allusion  to  his  Defence  of  Plays  in 

"  the  French  Academy" ii.  278 

• poetry  from  his  tale  of  Forbon'us  and 

Prisceria .    ii.  281,  282,  283 

r  Truth's  Complaint 


over  England". .    ii.  286,  287 

Long  verse  of  14  syllables  praised  by  G.  Chapman i.     35 

Love,  how  far  a  fit  subject  for  poetry ii-   1 1 5 

Lucan,  B.  I.  of  his  Pharsalia  translated  by  C.  Marlow  ..     i.  130 

Mad  World  my  Masters,  by  N.  Breton,  examined i.  331 

Magnificence,  an  interlude  by  John  Skelton,  quoted  ....  ii.  42 
Markliam,  Jervis,  his  tragedy  of  Sir  R.  Grenville  praised 

by  Fitzgeffrey i.  59 

his  fraud  Upon  Tofte  regarding  Ariosto's  satires ; 

and  upon  Barnabe  Rich  ...  ...  ib. 

his  tragedy  of  Sir  R.  Grenville,  1  M)5,  account 

of. ii.  92 

quotations  from ii.  93,  94,  95 

Markham,  Robt  his  poem  on  the  death  of  Sir  J.  Burgh  ii.  100 

Marlow,  Christ,  mode  of  his  death  differently  told i.  1 28 

his  translation  of  "  Lucan's  first  book," 

&c.  1600 i.  ib. 

specimens  of  it i.  12.9,130,131 

his  "  Tamberlaine*'  mentioned  by  R. 

Greene ii.  1 K3 

T.  Beard's  expressions  regarding  him ii.  273 

probable  allusion  to,  in  the  "  French 


Academy"    ii.  274 

Mar-marline,  and  plagiarism  in  it  from  Spenser....    i.  !83,  184 

Maroccus  Extaticus,  Bankes's  Horse,  tract  regarding  ..  i    163 
Marston,   John,  incident  in  his  Antonio  and  Mellida 

founded  on  a  jest  of  G.  Peele i.     52 

on  the  trade  of  a  rope-maker i.  218 

his  "  Metamorphosis  of  Pigmalion's  Image  and 

certain  Satires,"  1 598,  examined i.  230 

object  of  his  "  Pigmalion's  Image" ...  i.  231 

his  quarrel  with  Joseph  Hall,  and  the  cause  of  it  i.  231 


INDEX.  343 

Vol.  Page 

Marston,  his  answer  to  Hall's  epigram i.  232 

— -  why  he  wrote  under  the  name  of  W.  Kinsayder      i.  233 

his  attack  upon  Hall i.  234 

quotation  from  "  Pigmalion's  Image"  ....     i.  235,  236 

second  edition  of  his  Pigmalion's  Image  in  1619  ii    112 

extracts  from  his  satires i.  *40,  242,  243,  248 

his  "  Scourge  of  Villany,"  1598,  second  edit. 

1599 i.  249 

dedication  of  it  to  himself   ....         i.  250 


extracts  from  it i.  251,  252,  256,  257 

his  attacks  on  Shakespeare's  Rich.  Ill i.  254 

— — — -  reference  to  his  own  satires  in  "  What  you  will"  i.  255 

doubt  if  he  did  not  go  into  the  Church  late  in  life  i.  260 

•  sermon  by,  1 642 i.  269 

reference  to,  in  Histriomastix.  1610 ii.  314 

MS.  pageant  by,  in  honour  of  James  I.  and  the 

King  of  Denmark ii.  315 

Massinger,  P.  his  Emperor  of  the  East  quoted ii.  36 

City  Madam  referred  to ii.  269 

—  letter  of  the  publisher  of. .  ii.  31 7 
May,  Tho.  quotation  from  his  translation  of  Lucan's 

Pharsalia i.  130 

Meres,  Francis,  his  "  Palladis  Tamia,"  1598,  referred  to  i.  282 
Micro-cynicon,  Six  Snarling  Satires,  1 599,  mentioned  . .  i.  269 

its  scarcity  and  price  i.  28 1 

its  title  at  length , i.  282 

quotations  from,  i.  283,  288,  290,  295,  300,  301 

its  author i.  283 

Middlcton,  Tho.  his  applause  of  Greek  compounds  in  his 

"  Mad  World  my  Masters" i.  34 

and  Decker's  "  Roaring  Girl''  quoted i.  20 

Milton,  John,  his  mistake  in  asserting  that  his  Par.  Lost 

was  the  first  specimen  in  English  of  undramatic 

blank  verse i-  88 

his  obligations  to  Marston,  Anth.  Stafford,  and 

Gusman  of  Alfarache  i.  *4S,  244,  246 

quotes  Sir  J.  Harrington's  Orl.  Fur ii.  144 

senr.  his  Six-fold  Politician  quoted ii'  307 

Mirror  for  Magistrates,  blank  verse  in i.  1 01,  1 03 

Mirror  <f  Monsters,  1 587,  by  Rankin i-  ^28 


344  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 
Mirror  for  Magistrates  of  Cities, by  Whetstone,  quoted 

ii.  37,  240,  24.1 
—  published  in  1586,  as 

"  the  Enemy  of  Unthriftiness" ii.     38 

Mirror  if  Modesty,  1584,  by  R.  Greene,  quoted    i.   179 

Misery  nf  Flanders    Calamity  of  France,  &c.  1579,  a 

tract  by  T.  Churchyard ii.     74 

Monosyllables,  in  English,  praised  by  G.  Chapman i.     35 

Moor  nf  Venice,  first  woman  actor  in  the ii.  319 

Morley,    Henry  Parker,  Lord,   his   translation   of  the 

"  Triumphs  of  Petrarch,"  printed  by  J.  Cawood i.     77 

its  extreme  rarity     i.     79 

specimen  in  Dr.  Nott's  lives  of  Wyatt  and  Surrey  ib. 

A.  Wood's  error  regarding  Lord  Morley's  death  i.     80 

extract  from  the  dedication  of  his  translation  ....  i.     81 

extracts  from  his  version i.  8 1,  83,  84 

original  poem  by  Lord  Morley  at  the  end  of  his 

translation  of  Petrarch i.     86 

his  place  among  English  poets  ascertained i.     87 

Mornay,  de,  his  work  on   the  trueness  of  Christianity 

translated  by  Sir  P.  Sidney  and  Arthur  Golding ....  i.     69 
Mulcaster,  R.  blank  verse  translation  of  his  Ncenia  Con- 
solans,  with  specimens i.   141,  142,  143,  144 

Musical  Banquet  by  Douland i.  161 

Mychelborne,  Tho.  commendatory  verses  by,  before  Fitz- 

geflrey's  "  Drake" i.     8 

Myrrha,  the  mother  of  Adonis,  by  W.  Barkstead i.  237 

Nabbes,  Tho.  his  "  Scipio  and  Hannibal,"  1637,  quoted  i.     30 
Nash,  Tho.  two  lines  in  his  "  Pierce  Pennyless"  also 

found  in  the  "  Yorkshire  Tragedy" i.     53 

his  "  Pierce  Pennyless'  Supplication  to  the  Devil",  i.  215 

the  second  part,  or  answer  to  it,  called  "  The  Return 

o  the  Knight  of  the  Post  from  Hell,"  1 606 i.  216 

quotation  from  the  anonymous  address i.  216 

doubt  whether  he  did  not  bring  the  trade  of  rope- 
making  into  disrepute i.  218 

specimen  of  the  poetry  in   "  the  Return  of  the 

Knight  of  the  Post,"  \c i.  219 

- — -  ihe  K'.iight  of  the  Post  described i.  220 


INDEX.  345 

Vol.  Page 
Nash,  extracts  from  the  Devil's  "  Answer"  . . .   i.  222,  223,  224 

his  praise  of  Churchyard's  "  Shore's  Wife" \\[    g9 

his  "  Lenten  Stuff,"  1599,  spoken  of H.   107^  530 

—  his  "  Christ's  Tears  over  Jerusalem,"  1593,  quoted   ii.  269 

his  apology  in  it  to  Gabriel  Harvey ]j_     jj, 

Nero,  justification  of  a  strange  action  by,  by  G.  Chapman  ii.  60 
Netherlands,  Tho.  Churchyard's  Discourse  regarding  ...  ii.  88 
Nicholas's  History  of  the  West  Indies,  lines  by  Gosson 

t**0™ ii.  215 

Nichols's  Progresses  of  Q.  Elizabeth  cited jj.  270 

Nlabe,  161 1,  by  A.  Stafford,  Milton's  obligation  to j.  244 

and  "  Niobe  dissolved  into  a  Nilus,"  quoted ii.  45 

Xix»nt  Anthony,  his  plagiarism  from  Lodge i.  302 

—  his  "  Strange  Foot-post"  examined  ...  'i.  393 

Nocturnal  Lucubrations,  by  it.  Chamberlain,  cited  ....  i.  72 
Ntcniti  Consolans  translated  into  blank  verse  by  R. 

Mulcaster ^  j  ^j  j 

Northbrooke,  John,  liis  "  Treatise  against  Vain  Plays," 

'•>"»,  &c ii.  231 

quotation  from  his  Treatise. .  ii.  23'?,  233,  234 

Nolt,  Dr.  lives  of  Lord  Surrey  and  Sir  T.  Wyat i.  79 

(Enone's  Complaint,  from   Peele's   "  Arraignment  of 

Paris,"  lf.84 i.   123 

Oltlcastle,  Sir  John,  history  of,  by  Munday,  Drayton,  &c. 
containing  the  embryo  of  a  scene  in  Shakespeare's 

Henry  V i.     52 

Old  Plays,  indecency  of,  contrasted  with  those  after  the 

Restoration ii.  320 

Orjyharion,  by  Robert  Greene,  quoted i.  296",  299 

Overthrow  of  Stage-plays,  by  Dr.  Rainoldes ii.  253 

OwC s  Arraignment,  by  William  Goddard i.  3 1 8 

Painter,  William,  author  of  a  poem  called  "  Chaucer 

painted,''  printed  about  1630 ii.   165 

his  Palace  of  Pleasure  mentioned    ii.  167,  191, 

195 

Pup  with  a  JIalchct,  syllogism  in ii.  305 

Paris  Garden,  accident  at,  and  Field's  Exhortation   ....   ii.  242 


346  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 
Parke,  R.  his  History  of  China,  1588,  cited  ...........   ii.  2O3 

Parrot,  Henry,  his  '«  Mastiff  or  young  Whelp"  ........     i.  '276 

-  his  plagiarisms  ......................     i.     ib. 


s  pass  and  passeth  not,  by  N.  Breton,  quoted  ...  i.  229 
Peele,  George,  a  poet  and  sharper,  according  to  his 

"  Merry  conceited  Jests"  ......................     i.     48 

—————  the  same  man  as  George  Pieboard  in 

"  the  Puritan,"  proved  from  the  jests  and  the  play  ib. 

-  his  '•  Farewell  to  Sir  John  Norris  and 


Sir  Francis  Drake,"  1589,  and  quotations i.  54,  56,  58 

—  hi*  "  Tale  of  Troy"  quoted i.     5tf 

(Enone's  Complaint  by,  in  blank  verse, 


from  his  "  Arraignment  of  Paris,"  1584 i.  123 

Percy,  Will,  mention  of  his  '  Sonnets  to  the  fairest 

Caelia,"  1594 i.  12 

specimens  of,  in  Censura  Literaria i.  13 

— dedication  to  him  of  B.  Barnes's  "  Par- 

thenophil  and  Parthenophe" i.  14 

madrigal  by,  prefixed  to  B.  Barnes's  "  Four 


Books  of  Offices,"  160G,  quoted  i.  15 

Percy,  Bishop,  his  work  on  the  writers  of  blank  verse  ...  i.  91 

Perimedes  the  Blacksmith,  1588,  by  R.  Greene ii.  118 

quotation  regarding  the  motto,  &c.  ii.  J83 

Peters,  Hugh,  his  jest  concerning  George  Wither ii.  24 

Petrarch1 »  Triumphs,  translated  by  Lord  Morley i.  77 

by  Mrs.  Hume i.  ib. 

Phillip,  John,  his  "  Life  and  Death  of  Sir  P.  Sidney," 

1587 ii.  50 

—  quotations  from  ...  ii.  51,  52 

his  poem  on  the  Countess  of  Lenox ii.  125 

quotation  from,  regarding 


Queen  Elizabeth ii.  126' 

probably  mentioned  by  Nash ii.     ib. 


Play  of  Plays,  a  tract  in  defence  of  the  stage,  by  T. 

Lodge ii.  i.'09,  2*2 

. cause  of  its  excessive  scarcity ii.  225 

Player,  common,  character  of ii.  309 

Plays  confuted  in  five  actions,  by  S.  Gosson ii.  208,  221 

answered  by  Tho.  Lodge. ii.  225,  226 


INDEX.  347 

Vol.  Page 

Poets,  sufferings  of,  after  the  close  of  the  theatres ii.  325 

Polimanleia  quoted  regarding  Sir  C.  Hatton's  poems.. ..  ii.  137 
Primmidnye,  Peter de  la,  his  "  French  Academy''  translated  ii.  27 1 
Prujcan,  Tho.  his  "  Aurorata  and  Loves  Looking-glass," 

1644  ii.  192 

—  epistles  from  Juliet  to  Romeo,  and  Romeo 

to  Juliet ii.  193,194 

Prynne,  William,  his  "  Histriomastix'5  described ii.  318 

his  "  Vindication"  from  the  charge  of  recanting  . .  ii.  322 

his  supposed  ''  Defence  of  Stage  PJays" ii.  ib. 

Puritans,  libels  of,  upon  Marlow,  Greene,  Lodge,  &c.  ..  ii.  271 
Puritan,  or  Widow  of  Watling- street,  part  of  a  scene 

from i.  51 

mentioned  ii.  300 

Puttenham,  his  M  Art  of  English  Poesy,"  1589,  cited  . .  i.  65 

Rainoldes,  Dr.  "  Overthrow  of  Stage-plays"  examined. .   ii.  253, 

257,  259,  300 

•  epigram  upon,  by  T.  Bastard ii.  254 

—  Bishop  Hall's  praise  of,  in  his  Epistles. .  .  ii.  256 
Raleigh,  Sir  Walter,  his  History  of  the  World  quoted  . .     i.  166 

his  epitaph  on  Sir  P.  Sidney  re- 
ferred to  by  Sir  John  Harington  in  his  Orl.  Fur.  . . .    ii.  143 

Ram  Alley  by  Lod.  Barry  quoted    ii.  27,  284 

Rankin,  Will,  author  of  "  Seven  Satires,"  printed  in 

1596 '. i-  227 

— .  his  "  Mirror  of  Monsters,"   1587,  against 

stage-plays,  mentioned i.  228 

sonnet  by  him  prefixed  to  Bodenham's 


•«  Belvedere,'1  1 6i>0,  referred  to i.  229 

.  his  "  Mirror  of  Monsters"  examined,   ii.  246,  248 


Raynold,   John,  bis    ««  Primrose,"    1606,  quotations 

from "•  16,17 

Refutation  of  the  Apology  for  Actors,  1615,  by  J.  G.  . .    ii.  301 

. . quoted ii.  303,  304 

R/iyme,   abuse  of,  by   Ascham,   Hall,   Marston,   and 

Fleming .   i.  92,  93 

Rich,  Barnabe,  his  "  Farewel  to  Military  Profession," 
1606,  containing  a  novel  on  which  Shakespeare 
founded  his  "  Twelfth  Night" »•  134 


3-4  H  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 
Rich,  Barnabc,  particulars  of  his  biography,  and  titles  of 

some  of  his  works  omitted ii.  1 40 

his  concern  in  the  Netherland  wars ii.  141 

specimen  of  his  poetry ii.  163 

his  lines  before  Lodge's  "  Alarum  against 

Usurers" ii.  232 

liickard  IL  by  Shakespeare  referred  to ii.  286' 

Roaring  Girl,  the,  by  Decker  and  Middleton,  quoted  ...     i.  20 

Romeo  and  Juliet,  epistles  of,  by  Tho.  Prujean ii.  193,  194 

Rosalynde,  Euphues'  golden  Legacy,  by  T.  Lodge  ....    ii.  168 
comparison  between  it  and  Shake- 
speare's "  As  you  Like  it" ii.  1 70 

quotations  from  it ii.  171,  173,  174 


Rosciad,  the.  by  C.  Churchill,  quoted  ii.  32 

Rons,  Richard  and  Francis,  commendatory  verses  by, 

before  Fitzgeffrey's  "  Drake" i.  8 

Rowlands.  Saml.  the  "  Letting  of  Humours  blood,"  &c. 

1600 i.  328 

Sabie,  Francis,  notice  of  his  productions i.    136* 

blank  verse  poems  by  him,  called  «'  The 

Fisherman's  Tale"  and  "  Flora's  Fortune,"  1595  i.  138, 

139,  140 

Softer,  Tho.  his  Contention  between  the  Whoremonger,  &c.  ii.  20.9 

his  '*  Mirror  of  Modesty" ii.  228 

Satirical  dialogue  between  Alexander  and  Diogenes,  by 

William  Goddard i.  307 

Schoolmaster,  by  R.  Ascham,  quoted i.  81,  92,  ii,    44 

—  or  Teacher  of  Table  Philosophy,  quoted ii.  297 

School  of  Abuse,  by  Stephen  Gosson,  1579 ii.  210 

quotations  from  it ii.  212,  213 

allusion  to  it  in  the  French  Academy  ...  ii.  278 

Scourge  of  Venus,  or  the  wanton  Lady,  1614,  and  speci- 
mens from   i.  236,  238,  239 

Self-delusion  of  authors  regarding  their  fame i.     4G 

Shakespeare,  coincidence  between  a  line  of  his  and  an 

expression  by  Fitzgeffrey i.     41 

—  embryo  of  a  scene  in  his  Henry  V.  found 

iu  "  the  History  of  Sir  John  Oldcastle" i.     b'l 

his  admirable  judgment i.     57 


INDEX.  349 

Vol.  Page 

Shakespeare,  jest  by,  on  the  authority  of  Dr.  Donne i.  258 

-  his  "  Twelfth  Night"  founded  on  a  novel 

by  B.  Rich ii.  134 

and  deer-stealing ii.  257 


Sliepherd's  Calendar,  Spenser's,  why  called  by  Puttenham 

"  the  last" i-     68 

Shirley,  James,  quotation  from  his  "  Sisters" ii.  17 1 

his  plays  by  Gifford ii.  172 

. preface  to  his  "  Politician"  quoted ii.  300 

Shore's  Hrifi,  tragedy  of,  by  T.  Churchyard   ii.     90 

Sidney,  Sir  P.  reported  by  Whetstone  to  be  the  author 

of  Spenser's  Shepherd's  Calendar i.  64,  67 

doubt  whether  the  1  st  edit,  of  his  "  Arcadia" 

was  not  before  1590 i.     65 

. sonnet  omitted  in  his  "  Arcadia" i.     66 

apostrophe  to,  in  Stafford's  "  Niobe,"  1611  ii.     46 

„  «»  Life  and  Death  of,"    1587,  by  John 

Phillip «•     50 

H.    Constable's  four   sonnets   before  his 


«  Arcadia" ii.  104 

.  his  friend  Edward  Wootton ii.  107 


Six-fold  Politician,  1609,  by  John  Milton,  senr ii.  305 

authority  on  which  it  is  assigned  to 

him H-30G 

extract  from "•  307 

Skialetheia,  a  collection  of  satires  mentioned  by  Meres. . .     i.  229 
2x<a»wx7of,  by  George  Chapman,  quotation  from  it  re- 
garding hypercritical  readers i- 

Skelton,  John,  his  interlude  of  "  Magnificence,"  quoted. .  ii.     42 

Smythe,  Sir  John,  on  the  word  "  beleaguer" i-  29 1 

Song  of  Songs,  the,  by  Dudley  Fenner,  1587,  noticed . .  .    i.  308 
Southey,  Robt.    his  ballads   of  the  '«  Old  Woman  of 
Berkeley"  and  "  Rudiger,"  founded  on  stories  by 

T.  Heywood ' L  323 

Spenser,  Edmund,  his  sonnet  before  the  ••  Life  of  Scan- 

derbeg,"  1596,  mentioned •    ]' 

applauded  by  Fitzgeffrey  in  his  "  Drake      i.     32 

p0ems  on  the  wife  of  Sir  A.  Gorges 

and  Sir  P.  Sidney  K     6l 


350  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 
Spenser,  Edmund,  his  "  Shepherd's  Calendar"  attributed 

to  Sir  P.  Sidney i.  64,  67 

specimen  of  blank  verse  by  him  in  his 

EcL  for  August,  and  its  peculiarities i.     96 

"  Mother  Hubbard's  Tale"  alluded  to 


in  "  the  Ant  and  the  Nightingale,  or  Father  Hub- 
herd's  Tales,"  1604 i.   100 

his  "  View  of  the  State  of  Ireland"  re- 


ferred to i.  105 

eclogue  by  Tho.  Lodge  addressed  to  him    i.  1 80 

his  allusion  to  Tho.  Churchyard ii.  89 

his  mention  of  Gosson's  **  School  of 


Abuse" ii.  211 

Stafford,  Anth.  resemblance  between  a  passage  in  his 

"  Niobe,"  1611,  and  in  Par.  Lost i.  244 

— quotations  from  his  "  Niobe"  and 

"  Niobe  dissolved  into  a  Nilus" ii.  45 

Stage,  Fitzgeffrey's  praise  of  writers  for  the  i.  41 

—  list  of  tract*  against  ii.  280 

Stejihens,  John,  his  "  Essays  and  Characters,"  1615. ...  ii.  308 
character  of  a  Common 

Player  from ii.  309 

Storer's  "  Life  of  Cardinal  Wolsey,"  stanza  prefixed  to, 

by  J.  Sprint i.  19 

Strange  and  terrible  wonder  related  by  A.  Fleming i.  114 

Strapjmdo  for  the  Devil,  by  R.  Brathwayte,  quoted i.  70 

Stubbes,  Philip,  his  "  Anatomy  of  Abuses" ii.  235 

popularity  of  ...  ii.  236 

, Nash  regarding 

it  quoted ii.  ib. 

quoted ii.  238,  238 


Stubbes,  Philip,  his  "  Motive  to  good  Works"  referred  to    ii. 

Sunday,  plays  represented  upon,  censured ii.  240,  246 

— -  abolition  of  them  between  1580  and  1583     ii.  243, 

244 

Surrey,  Lord,  his  translation  from  Virgil  in  blank  verse  .     i.     92 
Swearing  on  the  stage,  T.  Bastard's  epigram  upon ii.    255 

Tale  of  two  Swans,  1590,  by  W.  Vallans i.   127 


INDEX.  351 

Vol.  Page 
Tamer,  the,  a  play  altered  from  Fletcher's  Woman's 

Prize,  female  actor  in  i ii.  320 

Taming  of  the  Shrew,  note  to,  on  custard-coffin  ii.  71 

Tarltoti,  Richard,  mention  of i'  207 

T.  Bastard's  praise  of ii.  255 

tribute  to,  in  P.  Bucke's  "  Three 

Lords  and  Three  Ladies  of  London,"  1590 ii.  295 

his  Jests,  161 1,  examined ii.  ib. 

quoted ii.  296 


Theatre  of  God's  Judgments,  by  Tho.  Beard i.  128 

Thracian   Wonder,   a  play,  falsely  attributed  to  John 

Webster  and  Will.  Rowley i-  268 

perhaps  by  Will.  Webster i.     ib. 

Time's  Curtain  drawn,  1621,  by  R.  Brathwayte    ii.     54 

Titus  and  Gisiflrus,  History  of,  1562,  by  Edw.  Lewicke    ii.     80 

abstract  of  the  story  of ii.     81 

quotation  from  Sir  T.  Elliot's  narra- 
tive  *•     84 

-  story  of,  in  Boccacio's  Decameron     ii.     79 

Tobacco,  Metamorphosis  of,  1602,  and  extracts  i.  189,  190,  191 

praise  of,  by  Spenser  in  F.  Q. i-  188 

Todd,  the  Rev.  H.  J.  his  praise  of  the  "  Drunkard's 

Character" *'     26 

remarks  on  his  edit,  of  Johnson's 

Dictionary L  2fll 

Troja  Britannica,  1609,  by  T.  Heywood,  quoted  . . . ...  i.  321 

TurberviUe.   said  to   have   translated  some  of  Ovid's 

Epistles  into  blank  verse *•  1 17 

Twelfth  Night  by  Shakespeare,  founded  on  a  novel  by 

BarnabeRich ?.''  J* 

_  when  written *  ** 

D-.  Johnson's  objection  to  its  opening. .  .  u.  1' 

Valiant,  W.  his  «•  Tale  of  two  Swans,"  1590,  in  blaak      ^    ^ 

verse 

randernoodt,  John,  the  third  writer  of  blank  verse  in 

i.    y^ 

English 

specimen  from  his  "  Theatre,   &c. 

of  voluptuous  Worldlings,"  1 569 


M:V2  INDEX. 

Vol.  Page 
Vaughan,  Sir  W.  his  "  Golden  Grove"  and  "  Golden 

Fleece" ii.  317 

Vicar  of  Croydon,  story  of,  from  Whetstone's  "  English 

Mirror" ii.     34 

Vicars,  John,  his  translation  of  Virgil's  JEneid,  1632  ...  i.  1 12 
lines  by  W.  Sq.  in  its  praise i.  113 

Ulysses  Redux,  a  university  play  by  Dr.  Gager ii.  256 

University  Plays,  expenses  of  getting  them  up ii.  258 

Upstarts  censured  in  "  The  Return  of  the  Knight  of 

the  Post,"  1606 i.  223 

Usurers,  Lodge's  Alarum  against ii.  223,  267 

practices  of,  displayed  by  T.  Nash ii.  269 

Walker,  Gilb.  his  tract  against  dice-play ii.  209 

Waller,  William,  his  version  of  Titus  and  Gisippus ii.  80 

Walton,  Izaac,  dedication  of  "Amos  and  Laura,"  1619, 

to  ii.  110 

Warner,  Will,  his  "  Albion's  England"  mentioned i.  265 

—  his  "  Albion's  England"  quoted i.  285 

his  attack  on  the  Puritans ii.  206 

Warlon,  Thomas,  his  History  of  English  poetry  i.  17,  154,  304 
his  mistake  regarding  E.  Lewicke's 

Titus  and  Gisippus ii.  79 

his  error  in  attributing  "  the  Mourn- 


ing Muse  of  Thestylis"  to  Spenser i.   1 1 3 

Watreman,  W.  his  "  Fardle  of  Fashions,"  1555,  quoted  ii.  204, 

205 
Webbe,  Will  his  «•  Discourse  of  English  Poesie,"  1586. .     i.     64 

Webster,  John,  turned  preacher  late  in  life i.  260 

the  fact  proved  from  a  comparison  of  his 

"  Academiarum  Examen,"  and  "  Saints  Guide,"  of 

1 654,  with  some  of  his  plays i.  26 1 

Webster,  William,  his  "  Curan  and  Argentile,"  1617  ...     i.  264 

—  extracts  from  it. i.  266,  267,  268 

—  "  The  Thracian  Wonder,"  perhaps  by 

him i.  268 

Whetstone,  George,  observations  on  his  elegiac  poems . . .    i.    61 
—  his  poem  on  the  death  of  Sir  P.  Sidney    i.     6 1 


INDKX.  353 

Vol.  Page 
Whetstone,  George,  bis  poem  on  the  death  of  Sir  P.  Sidney, 

quotation  from  it i.     62 

—  Spenser's  "  Shepherd's  Calendar" 

attributed  by  him  to  SirT.  Sidney .'. .  i.  64,  67, 

—  his  "  English  Mirror,"  1586,  quoted   ii.   32, 

33,  34,  35 

his   "  Mirror   for   Magistrates    of 

Cities,"  1584,  quoted ii.  37,  240,  241 

his   "  Enemy   of  Unthriftiness, 


1586,  with  a  list  of  his  productions ii.  38. 

H'i nter's /Tale,  the    compared  with  R.  Greene's  "  Do- 

rastus  and  Fawnia" ii.  177 

ll'itlier,  George,  his  voluminousness  as  an  author ii.  22 

his  Satire  to  the  King  quoted ii.  23 

Hugh  Peters'  jest  concerning ii.  24 

his  "  Abuses  stript  and  whipt"  quoted  . .  ii.  22 

— -  his  praise  of  the  poets  of  his  time ii.  48 

ll'oman's  Prize,  by  Fletcher,  female  actor  in ii.  320 

"'-„«/,  Anthony,  his  account  of  Fitzgeffrey i.  18 

n'nnttan.  Edward,  mentioned  by  Sidney  in  his  "  Apology 

of  Poetry,"  595 ii.  107 

Wootton,  Sir  Henry,  Bastard's  epigram  to ii.  108 

N'm-de,  Wyiikyn  de,  his  •*  Book  of  Keruynge"    ii.  70 

Ynrkihirc  Tragedy,  probably  by  Tho.  Nash    i.  53 


TIIK     K\l>. 


'0 

VOL.  II.  A  A 


BINDING 


524. 
C65 
v.2 


Collier,  John  Payne 

The  poetical  decameron 


PLEASE  DO  NOT  REMOVE 
CARDS  OR  SLIPS  FROM  THIS  POCKET 


UNIVERSITY  OF  TORONTO  LIBRARY