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Notas and Queries, July 29, 1911. 



NOTES AND QUERIES: 



FOR 



LITERARY MEN, GENERAL READERS, ETC. 



When found, make a note of." CAPTAIN CUTTLE. 



ELEVENTH SERIES. VOLUME III. 

JANUARY JUNE, 1911. 



LONDON: 

PUBLISHED AT THE 

OFFICE, BREAM'S BUILDINGS, CHANCERY LANE, E.G. 
BY JOHN C. FRANCIS AND J. EDWARD FRANCIS. 



Notes and Queries, July 29, 1911. 



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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 7, 1011. 



CONTENTS. No. 54. 

NOTES : Milton Bibles, 1 Bishopsgate Street Without, 2 
Chamney Family, 3 Anglo-American Mail Service: 
its Bicentenary South African Bibliography Samuel 
Richardson and the English Philosophers, 5 -Bells and 
Bell-Founders, 1560 Legal Macaronics, 6. 

QUERIES : "Terse" Claret-The Black Prince's Language 
"Die in beauty "Roger Greatorex Bibliography of 
Folk-lore, 7 Thread -Papers Pitt and Wilkes on Dis- 
franchisement Prebendary Gabriel Grant Militia 
Claims, 1716 Anne Boleyn : Bulley Family Lacy as a 
Place-Name, 8 John Hudson ' Pilgrim's Progress ' 
Imitated Oundle " Ennomic " " Caeqehouias " 
"Carent": " Patricksmas " : "Lukesmas" "Instant" 
or "Current" Rev. J. Samwell : Rev. J. Peacock 
Roeites of Calverton, 9 Andrew Arter's Memorial 
Church with Wooden Bell-Turret " God moves in a 
mysterious way," 10. 

REPLIES rMotto of 1851 Exhibition, 10 -Lord Mayor 
Trecothick, 11 Turcopolier Corn and Dishonesty, 12 
Eminent Librarians Great Snow in 1614, 13 Christmas 
Mummers Christmas Bough or Bush Owls called 
"Cherubims" Authors Wanted John Bright's Quota- 
tions, 15 'Gentleman's Magazine ' Danes'-Blood, a 
Flower, 16 High Stewards and Recorders Dante and a 
Font Miss Sumner, 17 Elizabeth Woodville and the 
Kings of Cologne Babies and Kittens Lowthers v. 
Howards, 18. 

NOTES OX BOOKS :-Leland's ' Itinerary 'Reviews and 

Magazines. 

Booksellers' Catalogues. 
Notices to Correspondents. 



JEtrrfes. 



MILTON BIBLES. 

A BIBLE in the British Museum (Add. MS. 
32, 310) is thus described in " Facsimiles of 
Royal, Historical, Literary, and other Auto- 
graphs in the Department of Manuscripts, 
British Museum. Edited by George F. 
Warner, M.A., Assistant Keeper of Manu- 
scripts. Series I. V." : 

" The Holy Bible printed by Robert Barker, 
London, 1612 : a copy which belonged to John 
Milton, who on the page here reproduced [facing 
the beginning of Genesis] entered memoranda of 
the dates of the birth, &c., of himself and members 
of his family, including his brother Christopher 
Milton [baptized 3 Dec., 1615] and his nephews 
Kd ward and John Phillips. The first five entries 
appear to have been made together in 1646 : 
the last two, written in 1657/8, after Milton had 
become totally blind, were added under his 
direction by another hand. Add. MS. 32, 310." 

The entries are as follows : 

" John Milton was born the 9 th of December, 
308, die Veneris half an howr after 6 in the 
morning. 

" Christofer Milton was born on Friday about 
a month before Christmass at 5 in the morning, 
1615. 



" Edward Phillips was 15 year old August, 
1645. 

" John Phillips is a year younger, about Octob. 

"My daughter Anne was born July the 29 th 
on the fast at eevning about half an houre after 
six 1646. 

" My daughter Mary was born on Wedensday, 
Octob. 25 th , on the fast day in the morning 
about 6 a clock, 1618. 

" My son John was born on Sunday, March the 
16 th about half an hower past nine at night, 1650. 

" My daughter Deborah was born the 2 d of 
May, being Sunday, somwhat before 3 of the 
clock in the morning, 1652. 

" [His*] My wife hir mother dyed about 3 days 
after. And my son about six weeks after his 
mother. 

" Katherin my daughter, by Katherin my 
second wife, was borne y e 19 th of October, between 
5 and 6 in y e morning, and dyed y e 17 th of March 
following, 6 weeks after hir mother, who dyed 
y 9 3 rd of Feb., 1657." 

The Bible an octavo edition of 1636 
printed by Young which Dr. Birch saw and 
examined in 1749-50, when he visited 
Milton's granddaughter Mrs. Foster in Cock 
Lane, near Shoreditch Church, also contains 
entries of births and deaths of Milton's chil- 
dren. Dr. Birch's own account is as follows : 

" She show'd me her Grand Mother's Bible in 
8 VO printed by Young in 1636, in a Blank Leafe 
upon which Milton had enter'd in his own Hands 
the Births of his Children, as follows: 

" ' Anne my Daughter was born July the 29 th 
the day of the Monthly Fast between six and 
seven, or about half an hour after six the Ev'ning 
1646. 

' ' Mary my Daughter was born on Wednesday 
Octob. 25 on the Fast Day in the morning about 
six o'clock 1645. 

' My Son John was born on Sunday March 
the 16 th halfe an houre past nine at night 1650. 

" ' My Daughter Deborah was born the 2 d of 
May, being Sunday somewhat before 3 of the Clock 
in the morning 1652.' " Birch Autograph 
MS. 4244. 

Mrs. Foster, daughter of Deborah, third 
daughter of Milton, of whom a long account 
is given in vol. vi. p. 751 ff. of Masson's 
' Life of Milton,' married Abraham Clarke, 
who died some time after 1688. She 
afterwards married Thomas Foster, " a 
weaver in Spitalfields," and died in 1727. 

All Milton's children are mentioned except- 
ing Katherin. Masson gives the following 
entries from the burial registers of St. 
Margaret's, Westminster, " Feb. 10, 1657/8, 
Mrs. Katherin Milton," and again, "March 
20, 1657/8, Mrs. Katherin Milton," and 
remarks that from these entries we should 
not know which designated the mother 
and which the child. He quotes, however, 
a sentence in Phillips' s memoir of his uncle 



Marked through. 



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which " settles the point." This sentence is 
as follows : 

'By his [Milton's] second wife he had only 
one daughter, of which the mother, the first year 
after her marriage, died in^childbedjand the child 
also within a month after." 

Katherin Woodcocke married Milton on 
12 November, 1656, and the child, according 
to the parish books of St. Margaret's, West- 
minster, was born 19 October, 1657. This 
date is given in the Museum Bible. Had 
Masson known of this Bible, he could even 
have given the exact day of death. 

There are slight differences in the wordings 
of some of the entries in the two Bibles. 
Here is another and important difference. 
" I am the book of Mary Milton," i.e. Mary 
Powell, Milton's first wife, is written, " in his 
wife's handwriting," in the Birch Bible. 
Those words are not in the Museum Bible, 
but on the inside of the back cover is 
written " Eliz. Elcock," and underneath 
"Eliz. Salmon, Her Book" (apparently 
maiden and married names). Of Milton's 
third wife, Elizabeth, nee Minshull, who 
died in 1727, the same year as Mrs. 
Foster, surviving Milton fifty-one years, 
we are told that she left all her effects, 
after payment of debts, to her nephews and 
nieces. Among those effects was " a large 
Bible." Possibly this was the Museum 
Bible, which had been acquired by one of 
those nieces. 

This Museum Bible was purchased from 
Thomas Kerslake in 1884. Masson's 'Life 
of Milton,' by the way, was published only 
three years previously. I naturally inquired 
of Dr. Warner whether Kerslake had given 
any details as to how the Bible had come 
into his possession. Dr. Warner kindly 
looked over all letters received from Kerslake 
during 1883 and 1884, but found nothing of 
the kind. Kerslake, who is now dead, 
wrote from Bristol. It would be extremely 
interesting to know its history. And per- 
haps some day the Bible described by Dr. 
Birch may come to light. J. S. S. 



BISHOPSGATE STREET WITHOUT. 

(See 11 S. ii. 246.) 

THE widening of this ancient thoroughfare 
begins at Lupinsky & Brandon's, tailors, 
Nos. 134 and 135, and will extend to Norton 
Folgate. It may be observed that the new 
' Post Office Directory ' includes Bishopsgate 
only, and has a note that Bishopsgate Within 
and Without have been amalgamated under 
the new title. 



" The Black Raven," 136, Bishopsgate- 
Street Without, survives, like the curate's 
egg, " in parts." Some few years ago it 
could be distinguished, not by a hanging 
sign, but by a modern tessellated pavement 
at the entrance, bearing a large black raven. 
The probability, however, that it occupies 
the site of a more ancient house with the 
same sign is suggested by the circumstance 
of the upper portion containing, among 
other things, a very old-fashioned staircase, 
which I have not at present seen, and heavy 
beams of oak supporting the ceiling. My 
informant is Mr. Samuel Mossman, the- 
owner, who is landlord also of " The Swan 
Hotel " at Stratford, E., and whose con- 
nexion with " The Black Raven " has 
lasted over fifteen years. 

Mr. Mossman tells me that an old-fash- 
ioned society called " Ye Olde White Dogs " 
was held there for many years, and at Yule- 
time the chairman always gave the toast 
of " the buxom lasses and merry wives of 
Bishopsgate." The " White Dogs " at the 
same festive season distributed bread 
and coal tickets among the poor inhabitants 
of the surrounding district, a charity, sup- 
ported by many City merchants, which did 
a vast amount of good, but which has now 
been removed to the Bishopsgate Institute 
under a new name. 

There is a seventeenth - century token 
extant of " The Black Raven," but I do- 
not remember to have seen the sign noted 
by MB. McMuBBAY in his interesting lists 
of some of the " Signs of Old London." 

I have the remains of an old handbill, 
dated 1791, of "The Black Raven," 136, 
Bishopsgate Street Without. The land- 
lord at that time was Alfred Love, who 
announces the perhaps not surprising fact 
that he was a " direct importer and Bonder 
of all his wines and spirits, noted for Special 
Scotch and Irish Whiskies." A raven 
perched on a bough adorns this handbill. 
But why weie the " White Dogs " so named ? 
Angel Alley, which stood between Nos. 137' 
and 138, but was swallowed up by the Great 
Eastern Railway Station about, I think, 
sixteen years ago, probably marked the site 
of " The Angel Inn " in Bishopsgate Street,, 
where the Parish Clerks, incorporated in 
1232 by Henry III., kept their hall, that is, 
the first hall of the Fraternity ; and by it was 
an almshouse for seven poor widows of 
deceased members. The Clerks kept the 
account of christenings, casualties, &c., 
and published the bills of mortality, among 
other privileges of their charter being exemp- 
tion from parish duties in the parish wherein 



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they officiated ; they attended at funerals, j 
and proceeded on foot before the corpse, 
singing, until they reached the church ; 
they had also (probably at "The Angel") 
public feasts, with music and song. 

Lamb Alley, formerly between Nos. 144 
and 145, derived its name from a sign of 
" The Lamb Tavern " ; and Sun Street, 
part of which still exists at the back of 
No. 144, though formerly it had a continua- 
tion through the opposite side of the street, 
also had its name from a sign of " The Sun." 
A token of " The Sun " in Bishopsgate 
Street, issued by W. I. A., probably relates 
to Bishopsgate Within, where there was a 
tavern of which Sun Yard marked the site : 

"To be Sold 

A Strong season' d Hunter ; also a gentle Gelding, 
Master of about fourteen or fifteen Stone, fit for 
a Lady. Enquire of Major Tames in Sun Yard, 
Bishopsgate Street." Daily Advertiser, 1 Oct., 
1741. 

" The King's Arms," 128, Bishopsgate 
Street, was an ale-house in 1742, unless the 
following announcement relate to " The 
King's Arms," 106, Bishopsgate Street 
Within : 

" Lost the 31st of March last, from behind the 
Stoke Newington Coach, between Stoke Newing- 
ton and Bishopsgate, a Deal Box, with some 
Shifts, and Wearing Apparel. Whoever will bring 
the same to Mr. Hawkins at the King's Arms 
Ale-house in Bishopsgate Street, shall have a 
Guinea Reward, and no Questions ask'd." 
Daily Advertiser, 8 April, 1742. 
The tavern stands at the corner of Acorn 
Street, and was perhaps originally " The 
Acorn." There certainly was, according 
to Dodsley, an " Acorn " sign here which 
gave its name to Acorn Street. 

Sweetapple Court, at No. 157, was so 
named, not after such a sign, but after Sir 
John Sweetapple, the owner (Dodsley's 
' London ' ) ; but who he was, whether 
knight or baronet, or whether he had held 
the office of Alderman (he was not appa- 
rently a Mayor), I cannot say. 

J. HOLDER MA.CMICHAEL. 
(To be continued.) 



CHAMNEY OR CHOLMONDELEY 
FAMILY. 

WHAT has been described as the " curt and 
absurd pronunciation of Cholmondeley as 
Chulmley or Chumley the contraction of 
illiterate flunkeys," appears to have another 
variation, to wit, " Chamney," a hybrid 
which will not be found in the ' Patronymia 
Britannica.' A family of Chamney sprang 
up in the counties of Wicklow and Wexford 



towards the end of the seventeenth century, 
and their descendants may still be traced, I 
relieve, in the sister isle. The traditional 
rigin of the name is related in ' The Metal 
Mines of Ireland,' a paper read before the 
Royal Dublin Society by Mr. G. H. Kinehan 
on 24 March, 1886. 

Speaking of the co. Wicklow, the author 
says : 

" Bacon, an Englishman, came over and built 
works at Shillelagh. Before his time most of 
bhe charcoal was sent to Wales to be there used 
in the final working of iron. He, however, con- 
sidered it would be more economical to import 
the pig iron than export the charcoal. This 
adventure was most successful, and at the time 
of the Commission for examination into the 
state of timber in Ireland, he had amassed a sum 
of over one million pounds. Having only one 
child, a daughter, the bait was too seductive to 
one of the Commissioners, a scion of the twice 
noble house of Cholmondeley, who became Bacon's 
son-in-law and successor, relinquishing his herit- 
age, and changing his name to Chamney. Al- 
though he changed his name during his life, and 
his descendants adopted the change, yet on his 
tomb in Carnew churchyard his real name and 
lineage are given. The Chamneys greatly in- 
creased the trade, having works not only at 
Shillelagh, where Bacon established the industry, 
but also in the Vale of Clara ; at Bally-na-Clash 
or ' Clash ' in Glenmalure ; at Woodenbridge 
and Aughrim, in the Vale of the Darragh Water, 
and elsewhere ; besides innumerable bloomeries ; 
his works popularly being said to have ' filled 
the county.' The Clash and Shillelagh iron was 
of very superior quality. Elsewhere in Ireland 5 
the iron trade gradually ceased, as the woods were 
exhausted, but here it seems to have come to a 
sudden and untimely end prior to 1761, on account 
of a fracas between Chamney and the English 
agent of the lord of the soil. Written informa- 
tion about the old ironworks is very hard to pro- 
cure, as nearly all the Chamney papers appear to 
have been destroyed when the family were dis- 
persed. Old people will tell you that ' the noise 
of the Chamney hammer was a weather guide.' 
Also they know that the iron and ore was carried; 
in baskets on horseback from Wicklow port, and 
from the different mines ; and the old horse- 
tracks from the mines and Wicklow to the fur- 
naces can still be shown." 

Nearly twenty years ago I entered 
into correspondence with the late Rev. 
Joseph Chamney, D.D., Rector of Dromiskin, 
Armagh, with reference to the Chamney 
family, and we were able to piece together 
the following fragmentary genealogy. 
| John Cholmondeley or Chamney of 
I Ballard, co. Wicklow, and Ballynellot, co. 
I Wexford, born 1650, married circa 1686 Jane, 

daughter of Bacon, ironmaster of 

Shillelagh, and had issue a son Thomas and 
two daughters : Elizabeth, b. 1688, married 
Percival Hunt of Lara, co. Kildare ; Anne, 

married Archer. He died 1733, and. 

was buried at Carnew. 



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The son, Thomas Chamney, of Flatten, 
near Drogheda, co. Meath, married 24 Janu- 
ary, 1715, Margaret, d. of Francis Graves 
of Drogheda, and had issue : 

1. Graves Chamney, Alderman, of Flatten. 
Died s.p., October, 1794. 

2. John Chamney, married Van- 

homrigh (nearly related to Swift's 
"*' Vanessa "), a quo John Vanhomrigh 
Chamney, Captain 25th Foot. Will dated 
1796. 

(1) Elizabeth, bom 4 March, 1717; 
married, 1746, Edward Archer of Mount 
John, co. Wicklow. 

(2) Jane, born 1718, married William 
Aickin. 

(3) Esther, born 1719, married Henry 
Cusack. 

(4) Frances, born 1720, married Thomas 
Jones, patentee of the Theatre Royal, 
Dublin. 

(5) Catherine, born 1726, married Joseph 
Swan of Tombrean, co. Wicklow. 

(6) Susannah, born 1727, married John 
Blacker. 

Edward and Elizabeth Archer had with 
other issue a daughter Jane, who married in 
1781 Dr. John Haughton, a Dublin physician. 
Dr. Haughton' s second son was Sir Graves 
Chamney Haughton (1788-1849), Orientalist. 
In the ' D.N.B.' the latter 's second Christian 
name is erroneously given as Champney. 
But Champney, of course, has nothing to 
do with Chamney, being derived from the 
French " Champagnois," a native of Cham- 
pagne. 

The Rev. Joseph Chamney first drew my 
attention to the tradition that his family 
were a branch of the Cholmondeleys, and the 
romantic circumstances that had prompted 
the corruption of the surname. He, how- 
ever, had not been able to verify the state- 
ment as to John Chamney 's real name and 
lineage being inscribed on his tomb. It 
was only the other day that I myself was 
able to visit Carnew with this object in 
view. Unfortunately, I could not find this 
grave in the churchyard, nor was any official 
connected with the church forthcoming who 
might have assisted me. I have since dis- 
covered, however, that the Carnew inscrip- 
tions have been dealt with by the Associa- 
tion for the Preservation of the Memorials 
of the Dead in Ireland, and that the inscrip- 
tion I was in search of is given as follows : 

" Here lyeth the body of Jn Chamney, Esq., 
who departed this life the 11 th day of April, 1733, 
in the 81 th year of his age." Vol. vii. p. 205. 



Not a word about the alleged addition 
of his " real name and lineage," which would 
hardly have escaped the transcriber's notice 
if present. 

The church at Camew is about sixty 
years old, for it replaced an edifice con- 
demned as unsafe. The square tower, sur- 
mounted by a spire, of the former church 
is separated from the body of the present one. 
There is a Chamney memorial inside the 
church, viz., a mural tablet with the follow- 
ing inscription : 

" Sacred to the Memory | of Joseph Chamney, 
Esq., of Ballyrahin, late Captain of | the Coolat- 
tin Corps of Yeomany Infantry in the County of 
Wicklow. | On the 2 nd day of July, 179S, and the 
52 nd year of his age, He was killed | with his 
nephew a most amiable youth both fighting | the 
battles of their God and of their King | in defence 
of their religion and their country. | In testimony 
| of the high sense entertained of his many 
public and private virtues | which are indelibly 
graven on the hearts of his numerous and sorrow- 
ing friends | they have erected this monument I 
A.D. 1806." 

The nephew was Capt. Nickson of the 
Coolkenna Corps. The engagement was the 
last of three reverses, or " melancholy 
affairs," as the Protestant historians term 
them, which the King's troops suffered in this 
neighbourhood within a few days. It took 
place half-way between Tinnahely and 
Carnew. The Yeomanry after their repulse 
took refuge in Capt. Chamney 's house at the 
foot of the hill, where under Capt. Morton 
and Lieut. Chamney, a son of the deceased, 
they sustained during fourteen hours the 
attacks of the rebels, who attempted 
repeatedly to fire the house. Some (particu- 
larly a large man from Gorey, named John 
Redmond, nicknamed Shaun Plunder) 
advanced under a covering of feather-beds 
to the hall-door, with the design of applying 
a torch to it ; but they were shot down in 
the attempt, despite this thick tegument. 
This incident is illustrated by Cruikshank in 
Maxwell's ' History of the Rebellion.' 

The Ballyrahin Chamneys were probably 
descended from another son of John Cham- 
ney, not included in the above pedigree. In 
Vicars' s ' Prerogative Wills of Ireland ' there 
is "Joseph Chamney, The Forge, co. 
Wicklow, 1742." 

Colour is lent to the assertion that the 
original name of the family was Cholmonde- 
ley by the fact that they bore the same arms. ' 
Chamney silver Irish silver of the early 
part of the eighteenth century has passed 
through my hands, and it bears the Cholmon- 
deley coat of arms and crest, which are also 
attached to the memorial to Capt. Chamney. 



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NOTES AND QUEKIKS. 



What was the date of the " Commission fo 
examination into the state of timber in 
Ireland," and where could the names o 
the Commissioners be seen ? 

H. G. ARCHER. 



ANGLO-AMERICAN MAIL SERVICE : ITS 
BICENTENARY. So many centenary anc 
bicentenary celebrations of various kinds 
take place in these days that it is somewha 1 
strange that none appears to be contem 
plated of one which would make a particu 
larly wide and human appeal, that being 
the bicentenary of the establishment of a 
regular Anglo-American mail service. Th( 
beginnings of such a service can be traced 
of course, to the seventeenth century ; but 
it was not until the closing months of the 
first decade of the eighteenth that these 
seem to have settled into the periodic. In 
The Daily Courant for 8 January, 1711, 
appeared the following : 

" Bristol, Jan. 6. This Day arri v'd here the Roya 
Anne Packet Boat, Captain Shorter, from New 
York, with a Mail of Letters from Her Majesty's 
Dominions on the Continent of America, which 
made her Passage from Bristol to New York in 
50 Days, and her Passage home in 28 Days. This is 
the first Mail in return from the Continent since 
the erecting the Correspondence to and from this 
Kingdom and the said Continent." 

The information here given was supple- 
mented by the subjoined advertisement, 
published in the same newspaper on the 
following 15 June, showing that this regular 
mail service had taken a firm hold upon the 
public : 

" For New York. 

"The Harley Packet-Boat from Bristol, Joseph 
Palmer, Commander, will be ready to Sail the last 
of this Instant June, (Wind and Weather per- 
mitting) with the Mail of Letters for the Continent 
of America, which will be taken in at the General 
Post-Office in London, or at any of the Post-Offices 
in Great-Britain, at any time between this and the 
last Day of this Instant June, 1711. And other 
lackets will be successively provided to depart 
monthly, with such Letters which shall be in the 
General Post-Office in London or Post-Office in 
Bristol, by the last Thursday in every Month. 
All Merchants and others, who have Occasion to 
send Goods or small Parcels, and are desirous to 
" us Passengers to New- York, New-England, 
Long-Island, Rhode-Island, East or West-Jersey, 
lensilvania, Maryland, Virginia or Carolina 
applying themselves to William Warren, or 
Jonathan Scarth Merchants, at the 3 Crowns in 
bracious- Street, London ; or to Richard Champion, 
Charles Hartford, Merchants, in Bristol, may 
be Accommodated on reasonable Terms. P. S 
JNote, That there are already Posts, and other 
Conveyances, from New- York to the several above- 
mentioned Places, And that the Reason why the 



late Packets have not duely kept their Cours, hath 
been occasioned by the Death of Sampson Mears ^ 
late Proprietor of the said Packets." 

More about this earliest Anglo-American 
periodic service is doubtless to be found, 
and would be w r elcome. 

ALFRED F. ROBBINS. 

SOUTH AFRICAN BIBLIOGRAPHY. As so 
many readers of ' N. & Q.' are devoted to the 
study of bibliography, a note should be 
made of that valuable contribution, ' South 
African Bibliography,' by Mr. Sidney 
Mendelssohn, published by Messrs. Kegan 
Paul, Triibner & Co., the first volume of 
which contains an Introduction by Mr. I. D.. 
Colvin. Mr. Mendelssohn has devoted the 
best part of eleven years to the compilation 
of his two noble volumes, the last five yeara 
having been almost entirely given to the 
work. The Bibliography was at first con- 
fined to the author's library of works 
relating to South Africa, but has been, 
extended to other sources. His own collec- 
tion he has left by his will to the Union 
Parliament of South Africa. He states in 
the preface, "It is not presented now, as 
I have by no means finished collecting" ; 
and he is afraid that he could not work 
without his collection at hand. A. N. Q. 

SAMUEL RICHARDSON AND THE ENGLISH 
PHILOSOPHERS. Richardson's novels con- 
tain numerous and characteristic references 
to 'the English philosophers. It is worth 
while to collect them, as they have not been 
noticed by his biographers. 

Lovelace, who has the greatest philosophi- 
cal knowledge of any of Richardson's 
characters, refers once to the contents of 
Shaftesbury's ' Essay on the Freedom of 
Wit and Humour ' (' Characteristicks/ vol. i,. 
Treatise II.) : 

" I always called another cause, when any of 
ny libertine companions, in pursuance of Lord 
Shaftesbury's test (which is part of the rake's 
creed, and what I may call the whetstone of 
nfidelity ), endeavoured to turn the sacred subject 
nto ridicule." ' Clarissa', iii. 147, ed. 1902. 

Lovelace also mentions Shaftesbury's ' Letter 
concerning Enthusiasm,' which contains an 
account of the French prophets (' Character- 
sticks,' i. 26-8) : 

" \Yhat we have been told of the agitations and 
vorkings, and sighings and sobbings of the French 
>rophets among us formerly, was nothing at all 
o the scene exhibited by these maudlin souls, at 
he re.-iding of these letters." ' Clarissa,' vii. 301 ; 
Iso cp. Shaftesbury, edited by Hatch, i. 378-81. 

In ' Sir Charles Grandison, 1 iii. 75-6, 
s an allusion to the title of Shaftesbury's. 



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NOTES AND QUERIES. pi s. m. JAN. 7, ion. 



' Moralists ' (' Characteristicks,' vol. ii. 
Treatise V.) : 

" I would have all these moralists, as they affect 
to call themselves, suffer by such libertine prin- 
ciples, as cannot be pursued, but in violation 
of the very first laws of morality." 

Lovelace refers once to B. de Mandeville's 
* The Fable of the Bees ; or, Private Vices, 
Public Benefits ' : 

" At worst, I am entirely within my worthy 
friend Mandeville's assertion, that private vices 
are public benefits." ' Clarissa,' vi. 3. 

Berkeley's dialogue * Alciphron ; or, The 
Minute Philosopher,' is mentioned in * Sir 
'Charles Grandison/ i. 281 : 

" He is thought to be a modern wit, you must 
know : and to speak after an admirable writer, 
a minute philosopher." 

Richardson's numerous references to Locke's 
* Some Thoughts concerning Education ' 
in the sequel to ' Pamela ' do not belong 
here. He does not seem to have read Locke's 
' Essay concerning Human Understanding,' 
as the word " idea," first made popular by 
Locke, does not occur in his novels. Richard- 
son, in opposition to Locke, considers that 
there are innate ideas : 

" Principles that are in my mind ; that I found 
there ; implanted, no doubt, by the first gracious 
Planter." ' Clarissa,' iv. 165. 

H. G. WARD. 

Aachen. 

BELLS AND BELL-FOUNDERS, c. 1560 : 
JOHN GRANGER. I have just found on the 
Common Plea Roll for Michaelmas term, 
9-10 Eliz. (1567), the following notes on the 
above subject, which I think should find a 
place in * N. & Q.' 

In the first entry Andrew Blease and John 
Kent, husbandmen, brought an action 
against John Granger of London, bell- 
founder (otherwise called John Graunger of 
Ightfelde, co. Salop, bell-founder), Humphrey 
Cole of Ightfelde, " yoman," and Henry 
Hewes of London (otherwise Henry Hewes 
of Assheparva, co. Salop, . " yoman "), to 
recover a debt of III. This is a mere entry 
of adjournment, and no particulars are 
given ; but the second entry relates to a 
cross suit in which John Kent of Olner, co. 
Chester, was summoned to answer the above 
John Granger or Graunger. It recites the 
following bond, dated 20 April, 1 Eliz. 
<1559) : 

" The condition of this obligation is such 
that if the above-bounden Andrew Blese and 
John Kent or either of them, their executors, 
administrators, and assigns, or the executors, 
administrators, or assigns of either of them, wel 
.and truly content and pay or cause to be contented 
And paide the somme of fy ve poundes syx shillinges 



,nd viijd of lawfull money of Englande unto the 

ibove- named John Granger, his executors, 
administrators, or assignes, in maner and forme 

lereafter following, That is to say at the castyng 
of such a bell as the foresaide Andrewe and John 

Kent shall deliver unto the said John Granger 
53s. 4d., and within one twelvemonth and one 
clay next after the castyng of the said bell other 
53s. 4d., in full paiment of the foresaid some of 
5 6.s. 8d. then this obligation to be void and of 
none effect ; and if default of payment be made 
of and in either of the foresaid payments at either 
of the dayes above limited, in part or in all, 
contrary to the true intent and meanyng hereof, 

Then this obligation to stande in full strength 
and vertue." 

I have looked up several authorities on 

Dells and bell-founding, but not one of them 
mentions John Granger or Graunger as a 

'ounder. It seems possible that the bell 
alluded to was cast for a church at Olner 

in Cheshire, and that Andrew Blease and 
John Kent were churchwardens. 

HENRY R. PLOMER. 
8, The Broadway, Hammersmith, W. 

LEGAL MACARONICS. This term was very 
happily applied at 7 S. i. 346 to that 
urious and composite jargon called law 
French ; ' and an instance from Dyer's 
Reports was given, in which a convicted 
ruffian " ject un brickbat a le Justice, que 
narrowly mist." The reporter is not dis- 
turbed by the occurrence of a word which 
he cannot translate. He simply puts it in 
bodily. 

A few instances may be added from Sir 
John Davis' s Reports, temp. Jac. I., but 
printed 1674 the first Irish Reports ever 
published. In Le Case de Customes : 

' Que est graund honte a nostre Nation, 
destre issint enamour ove les Mercery & Grocery 
wares imports per strangers, & d expender sur 
eux plus que le value de touts les Staple & reall 
commodities de nostre Pais : que serra en fine 
le ruine del Commonweal." 

In Le Case de Tanistry : 

" Chescun Custome ad un commencement, 
coment que le memorie del home ne extend a 
ceo ; come le River Nilus ad un fountaine, 
coment que les Geographers nepoent trover ceo." 

In the same case, a certain ordinance 
" accord ove le Divine Ordinance en le case 
de Zelophehad, Num. Cap. 27." 

In Le Case del Roy all Piscarie de la 
Banne : 

" Auxy le Hoy auera les grands poissona del Mer, 

Balenas & Sturgiones et le Koy auera wilde 

Swans, come volatilia regalia." 

The reports of " Gulielme Bendloes, Ser- 
jeant de la Ley," 1661, furnish some. 
macaronic writing also. In 19 Jac. I. 
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pew in which plaintiffs and their ancestors 
" ont seie et kneel e pur oyer divine service 
in le Eglise de D. en un He en le upper End 
del Eglise." Two years later Mrs. Fetti- 
place sues the parson of Pusey " pour de 
bruser son close et de fouler ses herbes ove ses 
avers (viz.) beufes, vacces, galines, Ducks, 
Aucks, et Cock de Indies ; " and the Court 
sagaciously quashes the judgment against 
him on the ground that turkeys are not 
averia, but volatilia. 

In Cossett's Case, 2 Car. I., 
** fuit prove que diverse fuerunt present in le 
'Tauerne quant I'homme fuit tue per un plage BUT 
Je teste ove un quart pott, & drinking ensemble, 
mes ne fuit prove quex d'eux done le plage." 

In the same year it is said that the Statute 
of Westminster 

" n'est qu un Nurse [when] le child est nee, et 
1'statute come careful mother prist ceo en ses 
braches a preserver ceo." 

And again : 

" Dodderidge dit que les parolls d'un Judgment 
doit estre certen et nemy destre vary ou frame 
solonque le pleasure et fond conceit de chescun 
home." 

I have extended the abbreviations. There 
is a mine of comedy in the old Reports. 

RICHARD H. THORNTON. 



WE must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their name's and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 

" TERSE " CLARET. In Sir C. Sedley's 
* Bellamira,' Act II. sc. i. (of 1687), Merry- 
man says, " I am so full I should spill terse 
at every jolt ; we drank gallons apiece " ; 
and a little further on, " He grudg'd her 
money for honest terse, and so he's right 
enough serv'd." Here it appears that 
terse was the name, proper or in slang, of 
some beverage. Shadwell, ' The Humourists,' 
Act IV. (of 1671), has " Must I stay till by 
the strength of terse claret you have wet 
yourself into courage ? " Here the epithet 
terse is applied to claret ; whence we may 
perhaps conclude that the terse in Sedley 
stands for " terse claret." But why is 
claret described as, or called, " terse," and 
what is the origin of the term ? Claret no 
doubt was imported in " terses " or " tierces," 
but so also, I suppose, were other wines. I 
do not find that Halliwell or Nares has dealt 
with " terse " in this sense, and shall be 
glad if readers of ' N. & Q.' can give us any 
light on it. JAMES A. H. MURRAY. ' 

Oxford. 



THE BLACK PRINCE'S LANGUAGE. It is 
stated in Mr. Edmund Storer's ' Peter the 
Cruel,' p. 308, that after the battle of 
Najara the Black Prince asked where Henry 
de Trastamara was : " 'E lo bort, es mort 
o' pres ? ' (' And the bastard, is he dead or 
taken ? ') he asked ; and when they told 
him of his escape, he answered prophetically, 
with the intuition of a true general : ' Noy 
ay res fait' ('Then nothing is done')." 
In what language or dialect was the Prince 
speaking Provenyal, Gascon, Languedocian, 
Bearnais, or what ? Was it his usual lan- 
guage in France and Spain ? 

ALBAN DORAN. 

" DIE IN BEAUTY." I have been reading 
lately the phrase "in Schonheit sterben " 
so often that it seems to me trite, but only 
now it occurs to me that I do not know its 
origin. Are readers of ' N. & Q.' in a better 
position with regard to it ? G. KRUEGER. 
Berlin. 

ROGER GREATOREX, PAPER MANUFAC- 
TURER. I should be grateful for any infor- 
mation regarding the family of Roger 
Greatorex, paper manufacturer. Between 
1784 and 1795 he was living at Apsley Mill, 
in the parish of King's Langley, Herts. A 
later address may have been Two Waters 
Mill, Hemel Hempstead, same county. 

In 1800 he apparently had to move to 
Lancaster, and wrote of getting sailing 
accommodation for America ; but whether 
he went or not, I do not know. His son 
Lawrence was a passenger on the American 
ship Washington, sailing from Lisbon in 
November, 1799. This Lawrence settled in 
America, and, I believe, owned and operated 
the first paper mills in that country, on the 
Brandywine, near Wilmington, Delaware. 

I want also the names of the wives of 
Roger Greatorex and his son Lawrence. 

E. HAVILAND HILLMAN. 
3227, Campo S. Samuele, Venice. 

BIBLIOGRAPHY OF FOLK-LORE. In the 
first report of the Council of the Folk-lore 
Society, dated 29 May, 1879, it is stated : 

" In April of last year it will be remembered that 
the Council prepared and issued forms for the com- 
pilation of a Bibliography of English Folk-lore. 
But almost immediately a member came forward 
and offered the use of his valuable collection, made 
for a Bibliography of superstitions and religious 
belief, which was the result of many years' work, 
involving, among other labours, complete perusal 
of the British Museum catalogues. Although this 
collection was only in part available for the Society's 
purpose, and did not cover all the ground which the 
Bibliography of Folk-lore will occupy, the Council 
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able to announce as approaching completion ' The 
Bibliography of Folk-lore. Compiled and edited 
by Thomas Satchell.' " 

More than thirty years have passed since 
this announcement was made. When will 
the project be realized ? W. B. GERISH. 

THREAD-PAPERS. What, in early eigh- 
teenth-century journalistic language, were 
" thread-papers " ? As The Weekly Journal 
is a very scarce news-sheet, I may quote 
part of the letter in which the use of the 
term twice occurs. It is from Mist's 
Weekly Journal, 28 July, 1722 : 
M r Mist, June 10, 1722. 

The following Letter and Song were lost by a 
young Lady : It will please her to have 'em again by 
your Hand, and save the Looser and Finder a great 
deal of Confusion. You may assure her all's safe, 
if she can but stand some reading of your Journal ; 
but then she must look as grave as her Father does, 
when he spread your Excellencies before the Family. 

I am, Yours HONOUR. 

Don't mistake me for the Chamber-Maid by my 
Name. 

Madam, May 1, 1722. 

You tell me it is your Opinion, that no man was 
ever heartily in Love, without being seiz'd, at one 
time or other, with a Fit of Poetry, &c. 

This letter, too long to give in extenso, 
is accompanied by a ' Song ' beginning 

Haste, Shepherds, haste and come away, 
This joyful Sun gave Cloe birth, 

which is thus alluded to in the letter to the 
lady : 

"If my Labours are honour'd with a Station 
among your Thread-Papers, I shall take it as a 
happy Omen : More Labours, more Thread-Papers. 
If not, e'en let them share the same Fate with the 
Author, that is, be set on Fire by you " 

The writer signs himself " Poor Strephon." 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 
PlTT AND WlLKES ON DlSFRANCHISEMENT. 

May I venture to repeat a question which 
I put, without eliciting a reply, just 
eighteen years since (8 S. ii. 468) ? 
Where is to be found a list of the thirty- 
six decayed boroughs which the younger 
Pitt proposed, in 1785, to disfranchise, 
and of the ten corporations which he desired 
should transfer the right of return to the 
citizens ? And is there extant a list of the 
boroughs which Wilkes would have dis- 
franchised by his proposal of 1776 ? 

POLITICIAN. 

GABRIEL GRANT, PREBENDARY AND ARCH- 
DEACON OF WESTMINSTER. Whom and 
when did he marry ? He is said to have 
married twice. He died in 1638. 

G. F. R. B. 



MILITIA CLAIMS, 1716. The following 
account is copied from an old book belonging 
to the parish of Yelvertoft, Northampton- 
shire : 

"The particulars of the charges of the Militia 
Horse provided by the Rectors of Creke, Cotesbroke. 
Yelvertoft, and Coton, 1716. 

The whole set of Accoutrem ts , Coat, Carbine, 
Pistols, Saddle, Bridle, Billet and Housing. 
Sword, &c. 06 Oo 03 

Man and Horse and Charges at 

North'ton 00 Oo 00 

June the 4 th Man and Horse one day 00 10 
Boots and Powder Horn 
A new Hat 
Mending the Pistols 

In all 08 03 07 

Mem. This was paid in ye proportion following, 
viz. 

Rector of Creek a 3 rd part. 
Rector of Cotesbroke a 4 th part. 
Rector of Coton & \ 9 ,-tha 
Rector of Yelvertoft /-' 

To what particular assembly of the 
militia does this refer ? Is it to be assumed 
that rectors of parishes generally were 
charged with a special levy for militia ? 

JOHN T. PAGE. 

Long Itchirigton, Warwickshire. 

ANNE BOLEYN OR BULLEYN : BULLEY 
FAMILY. Can any of your readers tell me 
the correct way of spelling the name of the 
second wife of Henry VIII. ? In the Life of 
Archbishop Tait I see that he twice refers 
to her, spelling the name Bulleyn. This 
is the only instance I have seen of the 
name being thus spelt. 

In Queen Elizabeth's reign there was a 
well-known doctor named Bulley, who was 
said to be distantly related to the Queen. In 
that case the n must have been dropped about 
the middle of the sixteenth century, 
question is of interest to me, as my cousin 
Dr. Bulley, President of Magdalen College, 
Oxford, from 1856 to 1890, considered that 
his family were descended from a collateral 
branch of the Boleyn or Bulleyn family. 
Will any one kindly tell me when the change 
in the spelling took place, if the name was 
ever correctly spelt Bulleyn ? H. A. B. 

[The spelling of the Queen's name was discussed 
at 8 S. i. 435 ; ii. 13.] 

LACY AS A PLACE-NAME. In some parts 
of Surrey and I believe in other counties 
" Lacy " occurs as part of the name of an 
estate or village. I know of Polesden Lacy 
(where Sheridan lived), Camilla Lacy (the 
residence of Fanny Burney), Wilton Lacy, 
and others. ,, 

What is the origin of the suffix Lacy 
FRANK SCHLOESSER. 



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JOHN HUDSON (LATE BURKITT & HUDSON). 
I should much like to know when John 
Hudson, printseller and publisher, 85, Cheap- 
side, was carrying on his business. I have 
found his label among the pasted paper on 
the back of the frame of a portrait of a 
general (?) officer. I should guess 1820 as 
about the date of the portrait, which Hud- 
son's date of business may help me to 
identify. ROBERT PIERPOINT. 

SA, Bickenhall Mansions, W. 

* PILGRIM'S PROGRESS ' IMITATED. Who 
was the author of ' The Progress of the 
Pilgrim Good-Intent, in Jacobinical Times ' ? 
The seventh edition was printed in 1801 by 
J. Bateson. for John Hatchard of Piccadilly. 
Though a little heavy, the parable is carried 
on with ingenuity. There are allusions to 
the elder Darwin, Fulton, and Godwin on 
p. 30 ; to the guillotine, p. 123 ; and to 
cosmopolitanism, pp. 159-60. The paper is 
water-marked " M. & E." 

RICHARD H. THORNTON. 
35, Upper Bedford Place, W.C. 

OUNDLE. What is the origin of this place- 
name ? ROBERT NEALE. 

" ENNOMIC." What does this word, which 
is not in the ' N.E.D.,' mean ? It occurs on 
p. 147 of George Meredith's ' Tragic Come- 
dians,' " Memorial Edition " : 

" I would not have it on my conscience that the 
commission of any deed ennomic, however un- 
wonted," &c. 

J. J. FREEMAN. 

" CAEQEHOUIAS." In ' An Eighteenth 
Century Correspondence,' p. 60, Deane 
Swift, writing to Sanderson Miller, says : 

" Neither is any fault so detestable as the fre- 
quency of Caeqehouias. Ands, Buts, Fors, Indeeds, 
&c., have cost me more pains," &c. 

What are the meaning and derivation of 
this word ? J. J. FREEMAN. 

" CARENT " : " PATRICKSMAS " : " LUKES- 
MAS." Can any reader give me the meaning 
of the old Scottish word " carent " ? It 
occurs several times in a diary of a Dum- 
bartonshire minister of the year 1705, and 
appears to refer to some ecclesiastical 
assessment or interest, as " carent due to 
the Mortification " ; "he came in to speak 
about his carent, but brought no money " ; 
" to give our obligement to transact his 
debts to the value of the price [of some 
land] against Whitsunday, bearing carent 
from Martinmas last." The word is not to 
be found in Jamieson's ' Dictionary.' 



The terms " Patricksmas " and " Lukes- 
mas," presumably 17 March and 18 October, 
are also used in the diary. Were those 
recognized term-days in Scotland at that 
period ? I can find no mention of them else- 
where. ANGLO-SCOT. 

[The 'N.E.D.' states that "Lukesmas" is now 
obsolete in Scotland, but was formerly a customary 
date (18 October) for payment of accounts. The 
latest example cited is from 1671, so that our corre- 
spondent brings the use of the word down to the 
next century.] 

" INSTANT " OR " CURRENT." In ' N. & Q.* 
for 26 November last (p. 440) it is said that 
the late F. H. Collins died " on the 16th 
inst." Are we to understand that this use 
of the word " instant " is sanctioned by 
' N. & Q.,' as I regret to see it is by some 
dictionaries ? To our fathers it would 
have sounded much like saying that a man 
had died to-morrow. T. S. O. 

[The use in question is, we think, generally recog- 
nized.] 

REV. J. SAMWELL : REV. J. PEACOCK. 
I am anxious to find out what particulars 
I can respecting the Rev. John Samwell 
and the Rev. John Peacock, who were suc- 
cessive ministers of Broadway Meeting, co. 
Somerset. All I know of Mr. Samwell is 
that he was in office in July, 1763, and that 
a small annuity was bequeathed to him 
and his successors in that year. I am told 
that he relinquished his ministry to study 
medicine, but that after a time he resumed 
his old position. Whether this was so or 
no, the first instalment under the legacy 
was apparently paid on 10 March, 1765, to 
Mr. Peacock, who seems to have been his 
successor. 

Mr. Peacock preached a sermon which was 
published, and witnessed a wedding in 
Broadway Church in 1768. He was still in 
office in 1775, but vacated that position 
shortly after, as he was succeeded by the 
Rev. John Lewis in 1777. In 1766 he pub- 
lished a book entitled ' Hymns and Spiritual 
Songs,' designed to supersede Dr. Watts' s 
compositions. 

If any one can throw light on the history 
of either Mr. Samwell or Mr. Peacock, I 
shall be very grateful. 

JOHN W. STANDERWICK. 

Broadway, Ilmirister. 

ROEITES OF CALVERTON. Several of the 
Nottingham local histories comprise frag- 
mentary notices of a sect founded about 
1780 at Calverton, Notts (the birthplace of 
the stocking-frame), by one John Roe, an 
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members were called Roeites, otherwise Re- 
formed Quakers (although not recognized 
by the Quakers proper), and the sect never 
extended beyond Calverton itself, where 
their one chapel and burial-ground long 
ago disused are yet pointed out. William 
Howitt, in one of his rural books, describes 
what he saw at a service in the chapel. I 
should be glad to learn if there exists any 
work of reference likely to supply a definite 
account of the Roeites and of their tenets. 

A. STAPLETON. 

ANDREW ARTER' s MEMOBIAL, HAMMER- 
SMITH. Can any one throw light upon the 
unpretentious stone pillar which stands in 
the roadway near the corner of Beavor Lane, 
Hammersmith, almost opposite Ravens- 
court Park ? 

The pillar in question, which is about a 
yard in height, and stands about a foot from 
the curb an excellent position, one cannot 
help thinking, for taking a wheel off a cart 
on a foggy evening bears on the side 
nearest the high road the following in- 
scription : 

Andrew Arter 

October 

1877. 

There are traces of wording on at least one 
other side, but they are very faint. Who 
was Mr. Arter ? WILLIAM MCMURRAY. 

CHURCH WITH WOODEN BELL-TURRET. 
I should be glad if I could be assisted to 
locate the subject of a water-colour drawing, 
probably 1820 or earlier, depicting the 
exterior of the south side and east end of a 
small stone church consisting of nave and 
chancel. The nave shows a doorway and 
two windows, the latter placed noticeably 
high in the wall ; the chancel, a large and a 
small doorway at the side, and a three- 
light, square-headed east window of the 
debased period. All the doors and windows 
have heavy hood-mouldings. The west end 
of the nave carries a square' wooden bell- 
turret. The site is on high ground, with 
village roofs lower on the" left, and woods 
beyond. Under the east window are plain 
iron rails round a tomb. W. B. H. 

COWPER'S " GOD MOVES IN A MYSTERIOUS 
WAY." Will any contributor tell me the 
correct reading of Cowper's words in his 
famous hymn " God moves in a mysterious 
way " ? The whole verse runs : 
His purposes will ripen fast, 

Unfolding every hour. 
The bud may have a bitter taste, 
But sweet will be the flower. 



I remember seeing in ' N. & Q.' another 
version of the last couplet, reading 
The bud may have a bitter taste, 
But wait and smell the flower. 

Which is the original form ? 

WATSON SURR 



EXHIBITION OF 1851 : ITS MOTTO. 
(US. ii. 410, 452, 493.) 

THE motto " The earth is the Lord's," &c., 
must, as MR. WARD states, be regarded 
as the motto of the Great Exhibition. It 
was well known to be a favourite with the 
Prince Consort, and in addition to its appear- 
ing on the cover and title-page of the Official 
Catalogue, it is placed on the title-pages of 
the volumes of the Official Descriptive and 
Illustrated Catalogue. These I possess, in 
addition to my father's copy of the corrected 
edition of the Official Catalogue. The 
latter bears the imprint of Spicer Brothers, 
wholesale stationers, and of W. Clowes 
& Sons, printers, Contractors to the Royal 
Commission. Its price was Is. in the build- 
ing, and Is. 3d. if bought at the City office or 
of booksellers. 

At the foot of the cover are these words : 
Say not the discoveries we make are our own. 
The germs of every act are implanted within us, 
And God our instructor, out of that which is 

concealed, 
Developes the faculties of invention. 

This also appears in Latin on the back of 
the title : 

Ne nostra, ista quse invenimus, dixeris 
Insita sunt nobis omnium artium semina, 
Magisterque ex occulto Deus producit ingeiiia. 

Underneath, the translation is given as on 
the front cover (except that the third line 
reads "And God our instructor, from his 
concealment''), and below this is the fol- 
lowing : 

Humani Generis Progressus, 

Ex cpmmuni omnium labore ortus, 

Uniuscujusque industrial debet esse finis : 

Hoc Adjuvando, 
Dei opt. max. voluntatem exsequimur. 

The progress of the human race, 
Resulting from the common labour of all men, 
Ought to be the final object of the exertion of each 

individual. 

In promoting this end, 

We are carrying out the will of the great and 
blessed God. 

A short introduction states that the mottoes 
were selected by Prince Albert. 

This corrected edition contains a report 
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by Prince Albert, the Queen's reply, and 
the prayer by the Archbishop of Canterbury. 

My father has written on the cover : 
" Second edition, 34 pages of advertisements, 
no duty." The back page is occupied by 
Bennett the watchmaker, who paid 1,000 
guineas for the privilege, which was the 
largest sum at that time ever given for a 
single advertisement. The Religious Tract 
Society have the third page of the cover ; 
and among others who have pages are John 
Murray ; Colman of mustard fame ; C. Cox, 
King William Street, Strand (devoted to 
works originally published by Charles 
Knight) ; and Charles Knight, 90, Fleet 
Street, his Cyclopaedias and other books. 

On p. 32 of Part I. of the Official Illus- 
trated Catalogue it is stated that the Com- 
mittee appointed 

" to suggest inscriptions for the Prize Medals 
recommended for the medal to be executed after 
design No. 1 the following line, very slightly 
altered, from Manilius (' Astronomicon,' v. 737) : 
Est etiam in magno qusedam respublica mundo. 
For the medal from design No. 2, the following 
line from the first book of the ' Metamorphoses ' 
of Ovid (v. 25) : 

Dissociata locis concordi pace ligavit. 
For the medal design No. 3, the following line 
from Claudian (' Eidyll.,' vii. 20) 

Artificis tacitae quod meruere manus." 
Messrs. Spicer Brothers were the exhibitors 
of a large roll of paper 46 inches wide and 
2,500 yards in length. This was the first 
time that the public were informed that it 
was possible to make paper of any length. 
JOHN COLLINS FBANCIS. 

I do not think NEL MEZZO is quite correct 
as to the motto of the Exhibition. The 
motto on the title-page of the Official Cata- 
logue is " The earth is the Lord's and all that 
therein is, the compass of the world and 
they that dwell therein." The quotation 
he gives as the motto is the inscription on one 
of the medals, and the fault that he finds 
with its Latin is not apparent in the intro- 
duction to the Catalogue, where the offending 
word "concordia" is correctly given 

concordi." The quality of the Com- 
mittee appointed to suggest inscriptions for 
the prize medals was too high to make such 
a blunder possible. The members were : 

The Hon. W. E. Gladstone, 

The Lord Lyttelton, 

The Hon. T. B. Macaulay, 

The Rev. H. G. Liddell, Head Master of 
Westminster School. 

J. T. STEELE, 
Secretary, Spicer Bros., Ltd. 



BARLOW TRECOTHICK:, LORD MAYOR (11 S. 
ii. 209, 298, 335). A portrait of Barlow 
Trecothick, if found, would be of interest to 
Bostonians, for some of his relatives were 
born here ; others lived here ; he himself 
was married here on 2 March, 1747, to 
Grizel Apthorp, a daughter of Charles 
Apthorp of Boston ; he was a friend to the 
American cause before the outbreak of the 
Revolution ; and from 1765 to 1772 he was 
the agent in London for New Hampshire. 
He died not 2 June (as sometimes stated), 
but 28 May, 1775 (London Chronicle, 27-30 
May, 1775, xxxvii. 511). 

His father was Capt. Mark Trecothick, a 
mariner, who presumably died late in 1734 
or early in 1735, as letters of administration 
were granted to his widow Hannah on 
22 March, 1735. The estate was inventoried 
at 34Z. 2s. Barlow Trecothick' s brother 
Mark, also a mariner, was married here to 
Sarah Davis on 2 April, 1740. In his will, 
dated 2 August, 1745, Mark appointed the 
above-mentioned Charles Apthorp his exe- 
cutor, and mentioned " my Hon d Mother 
M rs Hannah Trecothick of Boston Widow," 
" my Sister Hannah Trecothick," and " my 
Brother Edward." Charles Apthorp ren- 
dered his account 7 April, 1747. The widow, 
Sarah Trecothick, does not mention any 
Trecothick in her will, dated 28 January, 
and proved 14 February, 1750 ; but in an 
account rendered 8 October, 1763, by her 
executor (her brother Amos Davis) there 
is the item, " To Barlow Trecothick, 
1,271Z. 2s. lid." 

Barlow Trecothick's sister Hannah was 
born here 2 December, 1724 ; and here 
married James Ivers on 23 September, 1753. 
Their son James Ivers was born here 7 July, 
1754 ; graduated at Harvard College in 1773 ; 
took the name of Trecothick on the death 
of his uncle Barlow Trecothick ; and died in 
1843. 

A portrait of Barlow Trecothick's first 
wife, by Robert Feke, presumably taken 
before her marriage, still exists (or did exist 
in 1878) in Boston. She died at Addington, 
Surrey, 31 July, 1769, leaving no children. 
On 9 June, 1770, Barlow Trecothick married 
Ann Meredith. A portrait of her by Rey- 
nolds is reproduced in Graves and Cronin's 
' History of the Works of Sir J. Reynolds.' 
In the same work (iii. 987) Mr. C. W. Franks 
says : 

" I was wrong in saying that Alderman 
Trecothick had no children. He had a son, 
and that son an only child, a daughter, who 
married Capt. Strachey, lately of Bownham, 
co. Gloucester." 



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This statement is inaccurate, the facts 
appearing to be as follows. This " son " 
was not the son of Barlow Trecothick, who 
left no children, but of James Trecothick 
(born Ivers). Under date of 21 February, 
1777, this notice was printed in The London 
Chronicle of 20-22 February, xl. 179 : 

" Yesterday was married at .Spring-garden 
Chapel, James Trecothick, of Addington-place, in 
Surry, Esq., to Miss [Susanna] Edmonstone, eldest 
daughter of Sir Archibald Edmonstone, Bt." 

James and Susanna (Edmonstone) Tre- 
cothick had six children. The Gentleman's 
Magazine for November,': 1814, p. 496, 
records the following marriage : 

" Oct. 14. Barlow, eldest son of J. Trecothick, 
esq., to Eliza, second daughter of Rev. Dr. [John] 
Strachey, archdeacon of Suffolk." 

In the 1881 edition (p. 442) of Burke's 
' Peerage, Baronetage, and Knightage ' it 
is stated that this Barlow Trecothick " has 
one daughter, Eliza Margaret, wife of 
Leonard M. Strachey, Esq." 

ALBERT MATTHEWS. 

Boston, U.S. 

TURCOPOLIER : KNIGHTS HOSPITALLERS 
(US. ii. 247, 336, 371). It is perhaps worth 
noting what were the langues, &c., in 1798, 
when Bonaparte took possession of Malta. 
I quote from ' An Accurate Historical 
Account of all the Orders of Knighthood/ 
p. 9 et seq. : 

" The Order was classed at that Period into 
eight Languages, or Nations, viz. 1. Provence ; 
2. Auvergne ; 3. France ; 4. Italy ; 5. Arragon ; 
6. Germany ; 7. Castile ; and 8. Anglo-Bavaria ; 
which last was added thereto, by the late Elector 
Palatin Charles Theodore de Sultzbach. That 
Prince conferred upon the Order all the Estates of 
the suppressed Society of the Jesuits, situated in 
Bavaria ; and which, at the time of their suppres- 
sion, had been united to the Electoral domains. 
Charles Augustus, Prince of Bretzenheim, was the 
first Grand-Prior of this Nation, or Language. 
He Was invested therewith in 1780 ; and resigned 
that dignity in 1799, immediatelv upon the 
death of the Elector. 

" The Grand -Master, as well as 'the Cardinals, 
enjoys the Title of Eminence ; and the Grand- 
Officers of the Order, are as follows : 

1. The Grand-Commander, is the oldest Mem- 
ber of the Language of Provence. 

2. The Marshal, of that of Auvergne. 

3. The Hospitaler, of that of France. 

4. The Grand-Admiral, of that of Italy. 

5. The Grand -Conservator of that of Arragon. 
. The Grand-Bailiff, of that of Germany. 

7. The Grand-Chancellor, of that of Castile. 

8. And the Turcopolier, or Captain-General of 
the Cavalry, of that of Anglo-Bavaria. 

A foot-note adds : 

" Turcopolier, is a Term appertaining to the 
Order of Malta, which, previous to the Reforma- 
tion, was the Title of the Chief of the Language 



of England. Turcopole signified anciently in the 
Levant, a Light-Horseman, or a kind of Dragoon. 
The Turcopolier had, in this Quality, the Com- 
mand of the Cavalry, and of the English Marine. 
Guards of the Order. The military Orders gave 
this Name to those light-armed Cavaliers, who 
were the Esquires, or Serving-Brothers, of the 
Knights-Hospitalers of Saint John, or Knights of 
Malta, of the Templars, and the Teutonic 
Knights. Note of the Editor." 

The book from which I quote has neither 
name of author nor date. At the beginning 
is ' A Dissertation upon the existing State 
of Knighthood in Europe ; addressed to the 
Right Honourable Horatio Viscount Nelson,* 
which proves that it was written or pub- 
lished some time between 22 May, 1801, 
and 21 October, 1805. Though published in 
London by J. White, Fleet Street, it was 
printed by J. C. Briiggemann, Herrlichkeit, 
Hamburgh. The above-quoted foot-note 
appears merely as an editorial note, but 
many of the foot-notes come from Hugh 
Clark's ' Concise History of Knighthood/ 
1784. On pp. 15, 16, we read : 

" The last Grand-Master, duly elected, was 
Ferdinand Baron de Hompesch. 

" On the 24th of Nov. 1798 Paul the first, 
Emperor of Russia, assumed the dignity of Grand- 
Master of this Order. In 1799 His Imperial 
Majesty conferred the Ensigns thereof, upon the 
Honourable Emma Lady Hamilton, wife of the 
right Honourable Sir William Hamilton, Knight 
of the Bath, late His Britannic Majesty's Envoy- 
Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to 
the Court of Naples : and upon Sir Home Popham, 
a Captain of the British Navy, who received the 
permission of His Sovereign to assume and wear 
the same .... 

" Sir Richard James Lawrence, is likewise a 
Knight of this Order." 

The author refers (p. 17) particularly to 
Clark's ' Concise History,' to the ' History 
of the Knights of Malta ' by the Abbe de 
Vertot, and to Brydone's ' Toui,' presum- 
ably Patrick Brydone's ' Travels through 
Sicily and Malta,' London, 1774. 

I mentioned at 11 S. ii. 371 that the word 
Toiy>KO7rovAos appears as a Cypriote word 
meaning a field-watchman. Perhaps the 
word is a survival from the time (1291 
1309) when the Knights of St. John were 
settled at Limisso, otherwise Limasol, in 
Cyprus. ROBERT PIERPOINT. 

CORN AND DISHONESTY : AN HONEST 
MILLER (11 S. ii. 508). The miller, whose 
business it is to transmute raw material 
into food stuff, has much in his power, and 
may, conceivably, abuse his trust. From 
of old his case has been proverbial, for the 
practice of individuals has been sufficient 
to establish a class reference. The standard 
literary allusion on the subject is contained 



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in two lines of the delineation Chaucer gives 
of his Miller in ' The Prologue,' 11. 562-3 : 

Wei coude he stelen corn, and tollen thryes ; 

And yet he hadde a thonibe of gold, pardee. 

See the illuminating and satisfactory note 
on the passage in the Clarendon Press edition 
of ' The Prologue,' &c., by Dr. Morris and 
Prof. Skeat. 

The miller, with his privilege of "multure " 
and so forth, is a robust figure in Scottish 
song, his various advantages and idiosyn- 
crasies having manifestly made a strong 
appeal to those shrewd and candid observers 
whose literary gift is now the only evidence 
of their existence. One of the brightest of 
their lyrics, illustrating the miller's steady 
good fortune, opens thus : 
Merry may the maid lie 

That marries the miller, 
For foul day and fair day 

He 's ay bringing till her ; 
Has ay a penny in his purse 

For dinner and for supper ; 
And gin she please, a good fat cheese, 
And lumps of yellow butter. 

THOMAS BAYNE. 

Let MR. GERISH consult Chaucer. In the 
old time every tenant was bound to grind 
at the manor -mill, and the miller was paid 
by a toll of the grain, which toll he took 
and measured himself. 

In the days of itinerant butchers they also 
were suspected. Fifty years ago I can 
remember street-boys shouting after the 
butcher's man : 

Butcher, butcher, killed a calf, 
Ran away with the best half. 
This was in the East Riding of Yorkshire. 
I have recently written about * Itinerant 
Tailors' (US. ii. 505). I might have added 
itinerant butchers and pig-killers. 

W. C. B. 

Those interested in the subject of the toll 
levied by millers will find several references 
to the system as it existed in Scotland in 
' The Monastery ' (chap. xiii. and notes). 

Apropos of MB. GERISH' s reference to the 
case of the honest miller of Great Gaddesden, 
I remember reading in Milling some years 
ago a paragraph about an epitaph which was 
said to mark the last resting-place of an 
American miller. It ran : 

God works wonders now and then : 
Here lies a miller an honest man. 
The epitaph may possibly be apocryphal, 
but it serves to show that our forefathers' 
opinion of millers was by no means a flatter- 
ing one. LEONARD J. HODSON. 

Robertsbridge, Sussex. 



Sussex lays claim to an " honest miller " 
who resided at Chalvington ; but tradition 
says that he throve so ill that he hanged 
himself to his own mill-post. For further 
particulars see Sussex Archaeological Journal 
(vol. iii.)> and The Antiquary for June, 1909, 
in which the subject of honest millers is 
dealt with in an article on ' Sussex Wind- 
mills.' P. D. M. 
[ScoTUS and A. T. W. also thanked for replies.] 

EMINENT LIBRARIANS (US. ii. 489, 538). 
For G. H. Pertz, " Oberbibliothekar " 
of the Royal Library, Berlin, see an article in 
' Meyer's Konversationslexikon.' There is 
an account of his son Georg Pertz, who trans- 
lated Burns into German, in Briimmer's 
' Lexikon der deutschen Dichter des 1& 
Jahrhunderts.' G. H. Pertz's most im- 
portant service to Germanic philology is his 
finding the manuscript of the Old High 
German ' Strassburger Blutsegen,' pub- 
lished by Jakob Grimm. An account of this 
monument is given in Paul's ' Grundiiss der 
germanischen Philologie,' Band II., p. 66. 

H. G. WARD. 

Aachen. 

If MR. F. C. WHITE will revise his dates 
from information supplied by the ' D.N.B.,' 
he will find that the Rev. Henry John Todd 
was born in 1763 (not 1765), Dr. David Laing 
in 1793 (not 1790), and Sir Anthony Panizzi 
in 1797 (not 1799). W. SCOTT. 

GREAT SNOW IN 1614 (11 S. ii. 508).- 
Stow refers to the severity of the winter 
of 1613-14 in his annals thus : 

" The 17th of January began a great Frost, 
with extreame Snow \vhich continued untill 
the 14th of February, and albeit the Violence of 
the Frost and Snow some dayes abated, yet it 
continued freezing and snowing much or little 
untill the 7th of March." 

Some account of this severe frost is to be 
found in a contemporary chapbook, the 
title-page of which runs as follows : 

The Cold Yeare, 1614. 

A Deepe Snowe : 

In which Men and Cattell have perished, 
To the generall losse of Farmers, Grasiers, Hus- 
bandmen, and all sorts of People in the 
Countrie ; and no lesse hurtfull to 

Citizens. 

Written Dialogue-wise, in a plaine Familiar Talke 
betweene a London Shopkeeper, and a 

North-Country-Man, 
[n which, the Reader shall find many thinges for . 

his profit. 

mprinted at London for Thomas Langley in luie 
Lane, where they are to be sold. 
1015. 



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A reprint of this chapbook may be found 
in vol. ii. of 'The Old Book Collector's 
Miscellany,' edited by the late Charles 
Hindley. W. C. BOLLAND, 

Lincoln's Inn. 

This great snow was in 1614/15 : 

" January 16th began the greatest snow which 
ever fell upon the earth within man's memorye. 
It covered the earth fyve quarters deep upon the 
playne. There fell also ten less snows in Aprill, 
some a foote deep, some lesse, but none continued 
long. Uppon May-day in the morning instead 
of fetching in flowers the youths brought in flakes 
of snow, which lay above a foot deep uppon the 
moores and mountaynes (Youlgrave Register, 
Derbyshire)." 

" At York a heavy snow fell in January and 
eleven weeks frost, and then the river Ouse over- 
flowed, which flooded the streets, and lasted ten 
days, destroying many bridges (Whittock's 
York)." 

The above quotations are from T. H. 
Baker's ' Records of the Seasons, Prices of 
Agricultural Produce, and Phenomena ob- 
served in the British Isles.' 

A. R. MALDEN. 

From my transcription of the ancient 
records of Whitgift's Hospital, Croydon, 
I quote the following contemporary note : 

" Divided among the brethren and Sisters, 
in consideration of the Great Snow and cold 
winter, according to the appoyntment and warrant 
of my L. Grace of Canterbury, to each one the 
sum of vi 8 . riii d . 'amounting in all to the sum of 
x 1 . xiii 8 . iv d . (1614-15)." 

ALFBED CHAS. JONAS. 

An interesting and verbatim account of 
the great snow will be found in The Reli- 
quary, vol. iv. p. 194, taken from the Youl- 
greave parish register ; also an account of a 
great drought in the following spring, when 
only two showers of rain fell in over four 
months. " Nature always pays its debts." 

A. C. 

Describing the great snow in the winter 
of 1614-15, Chambers (' Domestic Annals of 
Scotland') quotes from Balfour's 'Annals 
of Scotland,' and cites other authorities 
to show the terrible severity of the season. 

W. SCOTT. 

CHBISTMAS MUMMERS AS MAMMALS OB 
BIKDS (11 S. ii. 507). Some additional infor- 
mation may perhaps be obtained from 
Hone's ' Works,' edition 1845 ; an article 
in Chambers' s Journal, 1848, on ' Obser- 
vances of Christmas in the Olden Time ' ; 
* Dorsetshire Mummers,' in The Folk-lore 
Record, vol. iii. 1880 ; and Miss C. M. 
Yonge's ' The Christmas Mummers, and 
other Stories,' 1858. 



A graphic account of a singular custom 
once prevalent in Dumfriesshire, indicative 
of the detestation in which the memory of 
the persecutor Grierson of Lag was long held 
in that part of Scotland, will be found in 
' The Burns Country,' by Mr. C. S. Dougall, 
1904, pp. 271-4. The observance, not 
necessarily confined, however, to the Christ- 
mas season, represented the persecutor as a 
grotesque animal figure, crawling on all 
fours in search of Whigs. ' SCOTUS. 

Fosbroke, ' Antiquities,' p. 668, states 
that some mummers were disguised like 
bears, others like unicorns, bringing presents. 
There is a small illustrated plate of these, 
and a reference to Strutt's ' Sports,' 124, 
189, 190. TOM JONES. 

CHBISTMAS BOUGH : CHBISTMAS BUSH 
(11 S. ii. 507). The Christmas bough, con- 
sisting of a bundle of evergreens decorated 
with oranges, apples, &c., and hung up in 
the kitchen, has always been called " the 
mistletoe " as long as I can remember, and 
is supposed to convey the same kissing 
privileges as, the actual mistletoe, which was 
never seen here before the days of railways. 

J. T. F. 

Winterton, Lines. 

In my own childhood (fifteen to twenty 
years ago) at Epworth in Lincolnshire, we 
never had a Christmas tree, but always a 
bush of the type described by ANCHOLME. 
It was formed of two wooden hoops placed 
one inside the other cross-wise, and then 
trimmed with evergreens, such as holly, 
ivy, box, &c. Apples, oranges, and small 
fancy articles were suspended from the 
framework, and a light hung in the middle 
or below. I have seen such bushes in other 
houses not many years since in the same 
place, and my father tells me they were 
common in South Notts in his boyhood. 
It was there called " the kissing-bush." 
We called it " the holly-bush." H. I. B. 

The earliest of those I knew over sixty 
years ago were much the same as described 
by ANCHOLME. The most used name for 
them in Derbyshire was " kissing-bush," 
because at every cottage Christmas gathering 
every one child, maid, lad, as well as 
mother and father had to be kissed under 
it, or, if it hung too low from the kitchen 
beam, by the side of it, and under it all the 
kissing forfeits in the games had to be 
redeemed. 

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kissing-bush." The outer and inner hoops 
of which the frame of the kissing-bush was 
made were kept from year to year, for it was 
lucky to do this, just as it was to keep a 
portion of the " yowl-clog " with which 
to light the next year's fire-log. For many 
years none used the words " Santa Claus " 
or " Christmas tree " : it was Father 
Christmas and Christmas bush, bough, or 
bunch. THOS. RATCLIFFE. 

The Christmas tree, as stated in the query, 
was originally " made in Germany," whence 
it was brought over to this country in the 
early decades of last century. Since then 
it has attained so great a popularity 
among us that, as regards devotion to the 
Christmas tree, Britain may now be said to 
be more German than Germany itself. The 
Christmas bough, however, preceded the 
Christmas tree, and has more claim to be 
regarded as a British institution. For a 
discussion of the tree as well as the bough, 
see the various articles on Christmas in 
Chambers' s ' Book of Days,' vol. ii. With 
regard to literary references, does not 
Washington Irving, in his ' Sketch Book,' 
say something about the Christmas bough 
as a feature in Christmas observances ? 

SCOTUS. 

[MR. HOLBEN MACMICHAEL also thanked for 
reply.] 

OWLS CALLED " CHEBUBIMS " (11 S. ii. 
505). I am reminded of a story which I 
heard, when a boy, from an old Cornish 
great-aunt, a tale which may be condensed 
thus : 

One evening two miners borrowed a gun, 
and went out for some unaccustomed sport. 
Presently something flew across the path 
in front of them ; the man with the gun 
fired, and the bird fell. But when the 
miners went to pick it up, they were first 
amazed, then terrified, for it was a big white 
owl ; they had never seen anything like it 
before, and could not believe that it was a 
bird. So they came to the dread conclusion 
that they had shot a cherub. Filled with 
horror, they rushed off to the rector, con- 
fessed their crime, and asked what they 
should do to save themselves from punish- 
ment. Thereupon the rector, who loved a 
joke, said that on Sunday they must walk 
through the village to the church, each clad 
in a white sheet, as a sign of penitence. 
Which was done, and no evil consequences 
resulted to the slayers. G. H. WHITE. 

St. Cross, Harleston, Norfolk. 



The reason probably why the owls were 
called " cherubims " was the resemblance 
between owls and the winged faces that 
passed for " cherubims " on headstones and 
elsewhere about village churches. I have 
heard a story of a lad who ran home to his 
father in a terrible fright, saying, " Father, 
father, I 've shotten a cherubim," thinking 
he had committed some unheard-of impiety. 
The father at once consoled him by telling 
him it was " nowt but a hullat " (owlet) 
that he had shot. J. T. F. 

Winterton, Lines. 

In the late Mr. Bosworth Smith's ' Bird 
Life and Bird Lore,' published by John 
Murray, may be seen a reproduction of an old 
print in ' Sporting Anecdotes ' (1804, Albion 
Press) entitled ' Cherubim Shooting.' The 
white owl, which looks at times all head and 
wings, is not unlike the representation of 
cherubim in Christian art, in which the head 
represents the fullness of knowledge implied 
in the name, the wings the angelic nature. 
FRANK E. COOPE. 

Thurlestone Rectory, Kingsbridge, S. Devon. 

ATJTHOBS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (US- 
ii. 488). The lines quoted by MB. H. S. 
BBANDBETH are an incorrect version of a 
well-known passage in Tennyson's ' May 
Queen : Conclusion,' stanza 7 : 
The trees began to whisper, and the wind began 

to roll, 
And in the wild March-morning I heard them call 

my soul. 

The oratio recta of the poet has been changed 
into the oratio obliqua in the query, and there 
are other variations. W. S. S. 

The original couplet is in Tennyson's 
'May Queen.' The garbled version of it 
appears, I feel sure, in a novel by either 
Charles or Henry Kingsley. It is there 
applied to the Guards leaving London for 
the Crimea : " Surely there was many a fine 
fellow who," &c. k G. W. E. RUSSELL. 

JOHN BBIGHT'S QUOTATIONS (US. ii. 508). 

2. Unholy is the voice 

Of loud thanksgiving over slaughter'd men, 
is Cowper's translation of 'Odyssey,' xxii. 
412. WM. EDWABD POLLABD. 

Hertford. 

3. " Fortune came smiling," &c., will be 
found in Dryden's ' All for Love.' 

W. SCOTT. 

4. " The Scipios' tomb contains no ashes 
now " is from ' Childe Harold,' iv. 79. 

THOMAS BAYNE. 



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' GENTLEMAN'S MAGAZINE ' : NUMBERING 
OF VOLUMES (11 S. ii. 388, 477). I am in- 
debted to MR. A. S. LEWIS for his reply, but 
it is not clear to me that he solves the diffi- 
culty by assuming a slip on the part of the 
editor. No doubt it is true, as MR. LEWIS 
points out, that the preface of fche January 
to June, 1857, volume speaks of its " two 
hundred predecessors " ; but this seems 
to be merely a loose phrase for " two hundred 
or thereby," as the immediately preceding 
leaf explicitly styles the volume "the two- 
hundred-and-second since the commence- 
ment," and this numeration is adhered to in 
subsequent volumes. 

Another correspondent points out that in 
the Preface to the Obituary Index printed in 
1891 an attempt is made to defend the 
numeration by reckoning the issue for 1782 
as composed of two volumes instead of one. 
But is there any justification for this ? 

The numbers for 1781 run to 633 pages. 

The numbers for 1782 run to 631 pages. 

The numbers for 1783 run to 1067 pages. 

It thus appears that the increase in bulk 
suggesting the breaking-up of each year into 
two parts took place in 1783, not 1782. 
Further, I find that the caption-heading of 
the number for July, 1783, is " The Gentle- 
man's Magazine for July, 1783 : being the first 
number of the second part of vol. 53 " ; while 
the heading of the number for July, 1782, 
lacks the italicized part. Our copy of July 
to December, 1783, has an independent 

title-page : " The Gentleman's Magazine 

for the year 1783. Part the second." Does a 
corresponding title-page exist for July to 
December, 1782 ? P. J. ANDERSON. 

Aberdeen University Library. 

DANES' -BLOOD, A FLOWER (11 S. ii. 488). 
This is a local name in Hertfordshire and 
Essex applied to several plants which are 
supposed to owe their origin to the blood of 
slaughtered Danes. My first acquaintance 
with a plant of this denomination proved 
to be the Dane wort or dwarf elder, which 
grew fairly freely in places by the side of the 
main road between Anstey and Barkway. 

Weever in his ' Antient Funeral Monu- 
ments,' 1631, p. 707, referring to Bartlow, 
Essex, says : 

"Banewort, which with bloud - red berries 
commeth up here plenteously, they still call by no 
other name than Danesbloud', of the number of the 
Danes that were there slaine." 

Camden in his 'Britannia,' 1607, refers to 
the same plant as the wall-wort or dwarf 
elder. It should be noted that the elder- 



berries are not red, but a reddish-black, and 
yield a violet juice. 

The Anemone pulsatilla or pasque-flower, 
found in abundance near Ashwell, Herts, is 
also known locally as Danes' -blood. Mr. 
E. V. Methold in his ' Notes on Stevenage, 
Herts,' remarks that in the hedges of the field 
known to this day as " Danes' Blood Field " 
there grows a plant called " monkshood," 
in which, during the spring, the sap turns 
to a reddish colour. W. B. GERISH. 

In * Tongues in Trees,' a work on plant- 
lore published by George Allen in 1891, I 
read at p. 48 : 

"The pasque-flower, Anemone pulsatilla, a native 
in the fields near Royston, is there supposed to have 
grown from the blood of Danes slain in battle. The 
same idea attaches in Wiltshire to the Danewort or 
dwarf elder, Sambucus Ebulus ; though at the High 
Cross on Watling Street near Leicester it is recorded 
as having been planted by the Romans as a preser- 
vative against dropsy." 

W. T. 

According to Folkard, the plant to which 
this legend properly belongs is the dwarf 
elder. He quotes Aubrey in support, who 
locates the legend at S laugh terford in Wilts. 

Friend says the name is given in various 
places to the rose, anemone, thistle, Adonis,, 
and other flowers too numerous to mention. 

C. C. B. 

Britten and Holland, ' Plant Names/ 
1886, p. 142, give three species : 1. Sambucus 
Ebulus, L., Cambs, Wilts ; 2. Anemone 
pulsatilla, L., Cambs, N. Essex, Norf. 3. 
Campanula glomerata, L., Cambs. 

S. L. PETTY. 

Ulverston. 

It is not only the clustered bell-flower 
(Campanula glomerata) that is known as 
Danes' -blood. The dwarf elder, Sambucus 
Ebulus, is also known both as Danes' -blood 
and Danes' -wort (Berkshire), and, as may be 
seen in Salmon's ' London Dispensatory,' 
was a common remedy for various ills. The 
popular belief that the flower sprang 
originally from the blood of the Danes which 
stained the ancient battle-fields is still 
common in Wiltshire, North Hertfordshire, 
Hampshire, Cumberland, North Essex, and 
Norfolk. In Northamptonshire the plant 
is known also as Dane-weed, and Defoe in 
his ' Tour through Great Britain ' speaks 
of his going a little out of the road from* 
Daventry to see a great camp called Barrow 
Hill, and adds : 

" They say this was a Danish camp, and every- 
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of the neighbouring Daventry, which they suppose 
to be built by them. The road hereabouts, too, 
being overgrown with Dane- weed, they fancy it 
sprang from the blood of Danes slain in battle ; and 
that, if upon a certain day iii the year you cut it, it 
bleeds." Vol. ii. p. 362. 

There is a full account of the tradition in 
The Gardeners' Chronicle, 1875, p. 515. See 
also Prior and Britten, s.v.v. Dane wort, 
Dane weed ; Aubrey's ' Natural History of 
Wilts,' p. 50 ; ' Natural History and Anti- 
quities of Surrey,' iv. 217, cited in ' Flowers 
and Flower Lore,' by the Rev. Hilderie 
Friend. 1884. J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. 
4, Hurlingham Court, S.W. 

[G. F. R. B. also thanked for reply.] 

HIGH STEWARDS AND RECORDERS AT THE 
RESTORATION (US. ii. 488). Sir Orlando 
Bridgeman was Lord Keeper of the Great 
Seal 1667-72, during which time there was 
no one with the title of Lord Chancellor. 

Lord Campbell in the introduction to his 
' Lives of the Lord Chancellors and Keepers 
of the Great Seal of England,' 1845, vol. i. 
p. 20, cites 5 Eliz. c. 18, which declares 
that " the Lord Keeper of the Great Seal 
for the time being shall have the same place, 
pre-eminence, and jurisdiction as the Lord 
Chancellor of England." 

He continues : 

" Since then there of course never have been a 
Chancellor and Keeper of the Great Seal concur- 
rently, and the only difference between the two 
titles is, that the one is more sounding than the 
other, and is regarded as a higher mark of royal 
favour." 

Will MRS. SUCKLING give her reference 
for the statement that Roger Gollop was 
M.P. for Southampton in 1659, and say 
whether Southampton means the county or 
the borough ? There is no Roger Gollop in 
the Index of the Official (Blue-book) Return 
of Members of Parliament. This does not 
prove that there was no such member, as 
the seventeenth-century lists are not perfect. 
George Gollopp, or Gollop, or Gallopp, 
alderman, sat for Southampton borough in 
the Parliaments of 17 May, 1625 12 August, 
1625 ; of 6 February, 1625/615 June, 1626 ; 
of 17 March, 1627/810 March, 1628/9 ; and 
of 1640 (Long Parliament). 

In the Parliament of 13 April, 1640 
5 May, 1640, Southampton borough was 
represented by Sir John Mill, Bt., and 
Thomas Levingstonne, Esq. In the next 
the Long Parliament one of the two mem- 
bers was George Gollopp (see above). In 
the next, 3 September, 1654 22 January, 
1654/5, John Lisle, Esq., one of the Lords 
Commissioners of the Great Seal, and Re- 



corder of Southampton, appears alone as 
member for the borough. 

In the lists of the next three Parliaments, 
viz., of 1656, 1658/9, and 1660, the borough 
does not appear. It reappears in that 
of 1661 with two members. 

In the list of the Parliament of 1658.9, 
which lasted less than three months, there 
were two members for Southampton county : 
one of unknown name ("Return torn"), 
the other Robert Wallopp, Esq., of Fare 
Wallopp, co. Southampton. About that 
time a Wallopp generally sat for the county. 
ROBERT PIERPOINT. 

There was no Lord Chancellor in 1671. 
Clarendon surrendered the Great Seal on 
30 August, 1667. It was given to Shaftes- 
bury on 17 November, 1672. During the 
intervening period Sir Orlando Bridgeman 
was Lord Keeper. EDWARD BENSLY. 

A great deal of valuable matter relating 
to High Stewards will be found in Webb's 
' English Local Government, vols. ii. iii. 

ROLAND AUSTIN. 
Public Library, Gloucester. 

[G. F. R. B., DIEGO, M., and MB. W. SCOTT also 
thanked for replies.] 

DANTE, RUSKIN, AND A FONT (11 S. ii. 
469). Dante says himself (' Inferno,' xix. 
1920), when speaking of the punishment 
of the Simonists : 

" I saw the livid stone, on the sides and on the 
bottom, full of holes, all of one breadth ; and each 
was round. Not less wide they seemed to me, nor 
larger, than those that are in my beauteous San 
Giovanni made for stands to the baptizers ; one of 
which, not many years ago, I broke to save one that 
was drowning in it : 

L'un delli quali, ancor non e molt' anni, 
Rupp' io per uri che dentro ri annegava." 

A. R. BAYLEY. 

Miss SUMNER : MRS. SKRINE OR SKREENE 
(11 S. ii. 389, 475). I have a copy of the 
Chippendale book-plate of Wm. Brightwell 
Sumner of Hatchlands, East Clandon, 
Surrey, with a bequest label attached, " The 
Bequest of my Brother, the Rev d D r Rob 
Carey Sumner," which is enclosed in a 
floral wreath, c. 1770. The arms are : 
Ermines, two chevronels or, a crescent gu. 
for difference, impaling. . . .a stag trippant 
. . . .for Holme. Crest, a lion's head erased 
.... ducally gorged .... 

There is another book-plate of this family, 
viz., a festoon armorial, c. 1780, for Geo. 
Holmne Sumner, armiger, of Hatchlands ; 
but I have not a copy of it. 



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There is a pedigree of the Sumners of 
Hatchlands in Burke' s ' Landed Gentry,' 
5th ed. It also appears in other editions. 
CHAS. HALL CROUCH. 

48, Nelson Road, Stroud Green, N. 

ELIZABETH WOODVILLE AND THE KINGS OF 
COLOGNE (11 S. ii. 449). The attempt to 
connect Elizabeth Woodville with one of 
the three Kings of Cologne is, I fear, a hope- 
less undertaking. It was doubtless through 
her mother, Jaquette or Jacqueline, that the 
connexion (if such there was) existed. But 
the difficulties in the way of tracing her 
descent seem insuperable. In Cologne, I 
believe, the names assigned to the three 
Kings are Gaspar (or Jaspar), Melchior, and 
Balthazar. There are, however, at least 
four other accounts, in every one of which the 
names are different. From an origin so 
obscure and nebulous, it appears impossible 
to deduce the pedigree of the Lady Eliza- 
beth Woodville with anything approaching 
accuracy. W. S. S. 

BABIES AND KITTENS (11 S. ii. 509). 
Miss Charlotte Leatham in an article on 
West Sussex superstitions lingering in 1868 
(Folk - lore Eecord, i. 18) says : " The belief 
that a baby and a kitten cannot thrive in the 
same house is far from being peculiar to 
Sussex." 

Norfolk people hold the same view, and 
they will not hesitate to drown a cat if it 
is ailing when there is an infant about. 

W. B. GERISH. 

LOWTHEBS v. HOWARDS : A SUPERSTITION 
UPSET (11 S. ii. 504). I first heard the saying 
mentioned, "A Lowther cannot beat a 
Howard," during the recent election. If 
it is of long standing ("a century and a 
half," The Morning Post says), it is difficult to 
see how it could have any foundation on 
fact. In the Parliaments of 1695, 1698, 
1700, 1701, and 1780 Carlisle, and in those of 
1679, 1806, 1807, 1812, and 1818 Cumber- 
land, each of which was a two-seat con- 
stituency, returned both a Lowther and a 
Howard. This must have meant either a 
compromise or such a balance of power 
as gave no advantage to either family. The 
expression " A Lowther cannot beat a 
Howard," or, as I heard it, "A Lowther has 
never beaten a Howard," implies a number 
of contests at the polls in which a Howard 
was uniformly successful over a Lowther. 
I do not find that the political history of 
Cumberland and Westmorland affords any 
Confirmation of such a view. DIEGO. 



Leland's Itinerary in England. Edited by Lucy 
Toulmin Smith. Parts IX., X., and XI. (Bell 

& Sons.) 

THIS volume marks the conclusion of the valuable 
and scholarly work upon which Miss Toulmin 
Smith has been long engaged. Of its contents, 
one part only, Part X. having to do with 
Oxfordshire, Berkshire, Wilts, Somerset, Glouces- 
tershire, and Dorset is in the nature of con- 
tinuous narrative. The remainder 'consists of 
miscellaneous notes in Latin and English, those 
in Part XI. having formed to some extent the 
basis of the more connected disquisitions in the 
earlier portions of the Itinerary. An interesting 
Appendix to Part X. sets forth a ' Note ' by 
Thomas Hearne on the building of the bridge 
between Culham and Abingdon, concluding with 
the cita,tion of a " table " put up by " Mr. 
Richard Fannand, iron-monger," in the Hall of 
St. Helen's Hospital, wherein the details of the 
enterprise labour, material, and dimensions 
are set forth in pious and enthusiastic verse. 

This, the final volume, is supplied with every- 
thing necessary towards perfecting the work as 
a whole, and facilitating references. The Preface 
contains an additional note of the Leland MSS. 
in the British Museum ; there is a ' Conspectus 
of English and Welsh Counties ' touched upon 
by the traveller. ; a list of the ' Maps and Illustra- 
tions in the Five Volumes ' ; 'A Concordance of 
the Present Edition of Leland's Itinerary with 
Hearne's Printed Text, Second Edition, 1744 ' ; 
and a ' Glossary ' of ' Archaic Words and Senses ' ; 
while the two general Indexes, of ' Persons and 
Landowners ' and ' Places and Subjects ' respec- 
tively, which have reference to the volumes pre- 
ceding as well as the present, are, so far as we have 
been able to test them, wonderfully accurate. 

By her thorough and painstaking performance 
of a task which has demanded infinite patience 
and scrupulous care, no less than learning and 
critical insight of a high order, Miss Toulmin 
Smith has earned the gratitude not only of 
antiquaries, but also of those less responsible 
persons who love to dabble in local history and 
tradition for the romance that is in them. 

IN The Cornhill Magazine for the new year Mrs. 
Humphry Ward begins a new novel, ' The Case of 
Richard Meynell,' another story of theological 
difficulties, and Mr. and Mrs. Egerton Castle 
a lively story, ' The Lost Iphigenia.' Mr. J. 
Meade Falkner has a pleasant poem on ' Oxford.' 
Mrs. Woods's ' Pastel ' is concerned with ' Black 
and White,' and finds something to say in favour of 
the former. Sir Frederick Pollock in ' Arabiniana' 
deals with the odd sayings of Serjeant Arabin, an 
original character who administered justice from 
1827 till 1841. His best-known saying, and we 
think his best the others are nothing like so 
witty is current in some such words as 
" Prisoner, God has given you good abilities, 
instead of which you go about the country stealing 
ducks." For " good abilities " we have generally 
heard " health and strength." Mrs. S. A. 
Barnett has a short, but sensible article ' Of 
Town Planning.' ' Marlborough's Men,' by Col. 
Hugh Pearse, is suggestive, but rather too much 
of a summary^to please us. " Q." has a lively 



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account of ' The Election Count ' in his own dis- 
trict, the hopes and fears and amenities of such 
occasions. Sir James Ypxall in ' A Great Game 
at Hide and Seek ' explains how Bruslart worried 
Napoleon. His fantastic style is full of affecta- 
tion. Mr. A. C. Benson's personal sketch this 
month is concerned with ' J. K. S.,' and gives a 
highly interesting view of that brilliant and eccen- 
tric figure. The first of a series of " Examina- 
tion Papers " on famous authors is begun this 
month by a number of questions on Lamb which 
are set by Mr. E. V. Lucas. For the best answers 
two guineas are offered. 

The Fortnightly for the year is an exceptionally 
interesting number. Mr. J. L. Garvin's notes 
on the present political situation are not con- 
vincing, and are spoilt for us by idle repetition. 
Mr. Walter Sichel in ' Second Thoughts ' is also 
on the Conservative side, while Mr. Belloc in ' The 
Change in Politics ' abuses both sides, and has 
good reason, we think, for much that he con- 
demns. Mr. Granville Barker has an account of 
' Two German Theatres ' which suggests abun- 
dant reflections concerning the mismanagement 
of our own stage and the recent failure of reper- 
tory. What Mr. Barker says should be carefully 
considered by all who care for the drama in this 
country. ' Post - Impressionists ' supply Mr. 
Walter Sickert with a subject for incisive criticism. 
A painter himself, Mr. Sickert writes with marked 
ability and verve on the artists who have come 
after the Impressionists of his earlier days. In 
' Impressions of Congress ' Mr. Sydney Brooks 
brings out very well the free and easy manners of 
American politicians as compared with our own. 
Washington and Westminster are widely different 
in their observances. Any one can go past the 
doors of the national Capitol, smoke in corridors, 
and take any seat in the great public galleries 
which happens to be vacant. In the House of 
Representatives " each member has a revolving 
arm-chair and a spacious desk in front of it." 
' A Candid Colloquy on Religion ' should attract 
attention, as it exhibits cleverly three typical 
points of view, the believer of the party being a 
Roman Catholic.' Mr. Sidney Low writes on 
' The End of the Old Constitution ' with the 
experience of an old hand ; and Mr. W hitelaw Reid 
reprints an address on ' Byron ' delivered to 
inaugurate a proposed Byron Chair of English 
Literature. Mr. Francis Gribble has an article 
on ' Tolstoy ' which brings into relief some of the 
important points and inconsistencies in the career 
of that thinker and artist. ' Benlian,' a story by 
Mr. Oliver Onions, is a weird and effective study 
in morbid influences ; and Mr. Lennard's fourth 
section of his hero ' In Search of Egeria ' deals 
with a modern, neurotic type of woman. 

Ix the two opening papers of The Nineteenth 
Century Lord Ribblesdale and Lord Dunraven 
discuss the results of the recent election. Mr. 
Harold Cox speaks of the Referendum as ' A 
Great Democratic Reform ' necessary to cope with 

"misrepresentation by groups of log-rolling 

politicians." He hopes it may come into force in 
a few years. Lady Paget's ' Recollections of 
Copenhagen in the 'Sixties ' are chiefly concerned 
with the difficulties in the choice of the Danish 
King of Greece, whose father Prince Christian 
was, at first, decidedly opposed to separation 
from his son. Sir Edward Clayton considers ' The 



Home Secretary and Prison Reform,' providing, 
we think, some useful and shrewd criticism. 
Capt. G. S. C. Swinton is in favour of 'A " King 
Edward " Bridge ' as a memorial. Hungerford 
Bridge and Charing Cross Station are, it is 
argued, unworthy of their prominence. They are 
either to make way altogether, " the station 
moving bodily to a more convenient position 
elsewhere," or to be included in one great recon- 
struction scheme. This might be very fine, but 
the expense would be prohibitive. The second! 
part of ' The Married Working Woman : a Study,' 
is well worth reading. Of ' Carillon Music,' as 
Mr. E. B. Osborn says, little is known in England. 
He speaks of the triumphs achieved by various 
artists at the meeting of bell-masters in Mechlin. 
M. Denyn is the master of them all, and performs, 
we learn, on a set of thirty-five bells at Cattistock 
in Dorset every year on the last Thursday in July. 
This is the only keyboard carillon of any conse- 
quence in the country, but perhaps some of our 
latest towers will be provided with bell-music.. 
Mrs. Watherston gives a lively and interesting 
account of ' An Outpost of our Empire,' viz., 
Tamale in West Africa, which she was the first 
white woman to inhabit. Other articles are con- 
cerned with English sculpture, education, small 
holdings, and democracy, but we regret to firkl 
that no single paper deals with letters. 

Ix The Burlington Magazine the ' Editorial ' 
deals with ' National Memorials and Selection 
Committees.' The competition for the statue of 
King Edward should, it is said, be thrown open 
to all artists of the British Empire, and the designs 
be on show in some large central building during 
the period of the Coronation this year, when 
Colonial and Indian officials may be able to select 
those of them suitable for local requirements. The 
jury of selection is then discussed. We agree that 
it should foe possible, and is desirable, to get 
eminent foreigners to help ; and we also applaud 
the idea of using the services of ' : a certain number 
of men of general critical knowledge and familiarity 
with the masterpieces of older sculpture." The 
statue, after all, is not to be viewed mainly 
by sculptors, who, like other artists, are apt to 
ignore the claims of general design in favour of 
some technical subtlety or merit. Mr. Roger 
Fry writes on ' A Portrait of Leonello D'Este ' 
by Roger Van der Weyden which is figured in 
colours in the frontispiece, the coat of arms on 
the reverse side being also reproduced on a plate. 
Mr. Lionel Cust continues in his ' Notes on Pic- 
tures in the Royal Collections ' discussion of Van 
Dyck's splendid equestrian portraits of Charles I. 
M. Paul Lafond has discovered an interesting 
subject for discussion in ' Ox- Yokes in the North 
of Portugal,' the designs on which approach a 
primitive character, though the actual specimens 
secured are, in fact, contemporary work. They 
are certainly beautiful, and offer a fascinating 
field for the tracing of design down the ages. A 
similar study is afforded by a plate in which Sir 
Martin Conway puts together pictures of two 
fourteenth-century chests. 

Of the remaining articles and notes we mention 
specially a clever plea for the Post-Impressionists 
by Mr. A. Clutton- Brock, and information from a 
foreign correspondent concerning forthcoming 
letters of Van Gogh. It is noted that the ' St. 
Sebastian' of Mantegna has been moved from 
the village of Aigue-Perse to the Louvre. 



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CONTENTS.-No. 55. 

NOTES : Shelley and Leigh Hunt, 21 Statues and 
Memorials in the British Isles, 22 The Earliest Tele- 
graphy, 24 Sir John Chandos James Forsyth " Elze " 
=Already, 25 Longfellow on Dufresny, 26. 

QUERIES: Sophie Dawes Miss Wykeham Alderman 
Wilcox, 27 Benjamin D'Israeli of Dublin Teesdale 
Legion Capt. Witham and the Siege of Gibraltar- 
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Pugilism Thackeray and the Stage T. J. Thackeray 
O. Goldsmith, B.A., 28 M. G. Drake Richard 
Heylin W. J. Lockwood T. Coryat and Westminster 
School Authors Wanted " Teetotal " Ha.ckney and 
Tom Hood Miss Pastrana Lady Elizabeth Preston, 
29 County Coats of Arms Coroner of the Verge Crowe 
Families, 30. 

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' Young Folks ' Itinerant Tailors, 34 Westminster 
Chimes "Sackbut" Knots in Handkerchiefs Corpse 
Bleeding Artephius, ' De Characteribus Planetarum,' 35 
Elephant and Castle in Heraldry Puns on Payne The 
Brown Sex, 36 Fores's Musical Envelope Bohemian 
Musical Folk-lore Al fieri in England Lady Conyngham 
Bishop Luscombe " Yorker," 37 Viscount Ossington 
" Tenedish," 38. 

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SHELLEY AND LEIGH HUNT. 

IN that very interesting compilation, ' Recol- 
lections of the Table Talk of Samuel Rogers,' 
the poet is reported to have said : 

" Before meeting Shelley in Italy, I had seen 
him only once. It was in my own house in 
St. James' Place, where he called upon me 
introducing himself to request the loan of some 
money which he wished to present to Leigh Hunt ; 
and he offered me a bond for it. Having nume- 
rous claims upon me at that time, 1 was obliged 
to refuse the loan." 

Prior to its final acceptance, a part of that 
statement seems to require revision. I do 
not think that Shelley before April, 1816, had 
any necessity to raise money for Leigh 
Hunt. 

Prof. Dowden in a note (' Life of Shelley,' 
vol. ii. p. 181) says : " When it was that he 
[Shelley] called on Rogers to request a loan 
for Leigh Hunt I cannot tell." 

While not disputing the fact that Shelley 
did call upon Rogers earlier than April, 1816, 
to borrow money, I submit that there is no 
evidence whatever that the money was 
intended for Leigh Hunt. I think it can be 
shown that the loan was requested for God- 



win, and that the date of Shelley's visit to 
Rogers was May, 1814. 

When, in February, 1813, Leigh Hunt and 
his brother were sentenced to two years' 
imprisonment, and a fine of 500?. each, for 
publishing a libel on the Prince Regent, 
Shelley, who was then at Tremadoc in Wales, 
wrote, on or about 19 February, to Hook- 
ham, and begged him to raise a subscription 
to pay Hunt's fine. Towards that object 
Shelley sent 201. When it was pointed out 
that neither of the Hunts would accept 
pecuniary assistance, Shelley wrote direct 
to Leigh Hunt, at that time in prison, and 
offered to pay either the whole, or a great 
part of the fine. This princely offer was at 
once declined by both the brothers Hunt, 
and there is no reason to believe that the 
question was ever reopened. As a matter 
of fact, Leigh Hunt was not personally 
known to Shelley until December, 1816, 
which was long after the period indicated by 
Rogers. 

That the visit to Rogers must have taken 
place prior to Byron's departure from 
England, in April, 1816, is proved by Rogers 
himself, who states that on the same day that 
Shelley called, Byron dined with him. Prof. 
Dowden tells us (' Life of Shelley,' vol. ii. 
p. 61) that in December, 1816, Mary became 
aware that Shelley had either given or con- 
veyed to Leigh Hunt a considerable sum 
of money, possibly for his private wants. 
This is the first intimation of any gift of 
money by Shelley to Leigh Hunt, and can 
have had no connexion whatever with 
Samuel Rogers. On the other hand, it is 
on record that in March, 1814, Shelley's 
affairs were in a critical condition. He 
wrote to his father to say that he could no 
longer delay raising money by the sale of 
post-obit bonds. Two months later, in 
May, 1814, Shelley tried very hard to raise 
money, but not for Leigh Hunt, who was not 
in need of money at that time. Shelley- 
wished to assist Godwin (Dowden, vol. i. 
pp. 417-18), with whose daughter he eloped 
at the end of July. 

In May, 1815, Shelley gave Godwin 
1,OOOZ., and in the following month the poet 
became entitled to an income of 1,OOOZ. a 
year. He had then certainly no occasion to 
borrow money from Rogers, for he was, at 
that time, decidedly prosperous. " Re- 
lieved from poverty and the oppression of 
debt," says Prof. Dowden, he longed to get 
out of London, and to find some haven of 
peace with Mary Godwin. Again, in 
January, 1816, Shelley agreed to sell an 
annuity for Godwin's benefit ; but not one 



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word is mentioned of Leigh Hunt's neces- 
sities until the following December. 

In these circumstances it seems likely, 
either that Rogers may have forgotten, 
or perhaps in the first instance mistaken, 
the object for which Shelley begged a loan ; 
or that the compiler of the ' Table Talk * 
may have misunderstood the allusion. It 
appears to be only bare justice to a man who, 
in after years, was not so scrupulous, to 
remember that, in the hours of adversity 
which he passed in prison, he showed a fine 
spirit of independence. 

RICHARD EDGCUMBE. 

Edgbarrow, Orowthorne, Berks. 



STATUES AND MEMORIALS IN THE 
BRITISH ISLES. 

(See 10 S. xi. 441 ; xii. 51, 114, 181, 401 ; 
11 S. i. 282; ii. 42, 242, 381.) 

I AGAIN desire to thank all correspondents, 
anonymous and otherwise, who have supplied 
information. 

Having given a first instalment of Queen 
Victoria Memorials at the last reference, I 
devote the present contribution mainly to 
Memorials of Prince Albert, after which I 
must proceed to other subjects now demand- 
ing attention. 

ROYAL PEESONAGES (continued). 

Hastings. About the centre of the town, 
on a site where seven roads converge, stands 
the Albert Memorial. It is 65 feet high, 
and was erected by public subscription at a 
cost of 860Z., to the memory of Prince 
Albert, consort of Queen Victoria. Above 
the entrance door of the tower is inscribed : 
" Erected to Albert the Good, in the year 
of our Lord 1862." Higher up on the same 
side is a statue of the Prince, represented 
in the robes of a Knight of the Garter. 
Above the statue is an illuminated clock. 
A drinking fountain is incorporated in the 
lower portion of the tower. The memorial 
is from designs by Mr. E. A. Heffer of Liver- 
pool. 

Edinburgh. A bronze equestrian statue 
of Prince Albert stands in the centre of 
Charlotte Square Gardens. The Prince is 
represented in the uniform of a. field-marshal. 
On the granite pedestal are bronze bas-reliefs 
depicting events in his life : (E. ) his marriage, 
(W.) opening of the Great Exhibition of 1851, 
(N.) distributing Orders, (S.) the Queen and 
Prince surrounded by their children. At the 
angles between are groups representative of 
(1) Art and Science, (2) Labour, (3) Nobility, 
(4) Service. The statue is the work of the 



late Sir John Steell, and the groups are by 
other sculptors. The work cost nearly 
16,000?., and was inaugurated by Queen 
Victoria on 17 August, 1876. On the evening 
of the ceremony the sculptor received the 
honour of knighthood from his sovereign at 
Holyrood Palace. 

Ramsey, Isle of Man. On 20 September, 
1847, the Royal Yacht with the Queen and 
Prince Albert on board anchored in Ramsey 
Bay. The Queen remained on board, but 
the Prince Consort landed and visited 
several points of interest in the neighbour- 
hood. The party had again embarked 
before the inhabitants were aware of the 
visit. A subscription was shortly after- 
wards started to erect a suitable memorial 
of the event. It consists of a tower 45 feet 
high, built of granite and slate, and furnished 
with a winding stairway in the interior. Over 
the doorway is inscribed : 

" Erected on the spot where H.R.H. Prince- 
Albert stood to view Ramsey and its neigh- 
bourhood during the visit of her most gracious 
Majesty Queen Victoria to Ramsey Bay, the 20th 
of September, 1847." 

Belfast. At the bottom of High Street, 
near the Quay, is the fine clock-tower 
known as " The Albert Memorial." It was 
erected by public subscription, was begun 
in 1865, and completed in 1868. It rises to 
a height of 138 feet, and was constructed 
from the designs of Mr. W. J. Barre. On 
the side facing High Street is a statue of the 
Prince ; and the tower terminates with a 
clock-chamber, open belfry, and spire. 

Balmoral. On Craig-lour-achin, one of the* 
most beautiful hills near Balmoral, a statue 
of Prince Albert stands on the apex of a 
pyramid or cairn of rough granite blocks. 
The Prince is represented clad in Highland 
costume, and bare-headed. His right hand 
rests upon the head of a large collie-dog 
standing beside him. The inscription con- 
tains the following quotation from the 
Apocryphal Wisdom of Solomon (chap. iv. 
verses 13 and 14) : 

" He, being made perfect in a short time, 
fulfilled a long time. For his soul pleased the Lord, 
therefore hasted He to take him away from among 
the wicked." 

Lochlee Forest, Braemar. At a spot in 
this forest known as Hall o' Craig o' Doon 
is a well from which Queen Victoria and 
Prince Albert once drank. The eleventh 
Earl of Dalhousie, who owned the demesne, 
placed over the well a memorial stone,, 
bearing the lines : 

Rest, traveller, on this lonely green, 

And drink and pray for Scotland's queen* 



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Beneath this couplet is inscribed as follows : 

" Her Majesty Queen Victoria and His Royal 
Highness the Prince Consort visited this well and 
drank of its refreshing waters, the 20th of Septem- 
ber, 1860. The Year of Her Majesty's Great 
Sorrow." 

Balmoral Palace. Over the entrance door 
to the great tower is a richly carved panel. 
The globose centre is thus inscribed : 

This 
Castle of Balmoral 

was erected by 
R.R.H. Prince Albert 

Consort of 

H.M. Queen Victoria 

Begun Sept. 28th 1853 

Completed Sept. Istll856 

Tenby. On the Castle Hill stands the 
Welsh Memorial of Prince Albert. It was 
designed and executed by Mr. John Evan 
Thomas at a cost of 2,2501. The Prince is 
represented in the attire of a field-marshal, 
and wearing the regalia of the Order of the 
Garter. The statue was unveiled by Prince 
Arthur (Duke of Connaught) in 1865. The 
inscription is in Welsh. 

Wolverhampton. In the centre of Queen's 
Square is a bronze equestrian statue of Prince 
Albert. It was unveiled by Queen Victoria 
on 30 November, 1866. 

Liverpool. A bronze equestrian statue of 
Prince Albert is in St. George's Place. 
On the front of the granite pedestal is in- 
scribed : 

Albert, Prince Consort 
Born 1819, Died 1861. 

And on the back : 

" This statue of a wise and good Prince was 
erected by the Corporation of Liverpool, October, 
1800." 

It was modelled by Thos. Thornycroft, and 
cost 6,000?. 

St. Peter Port, Guernsey. A replica of the 
statue of Prince Albert formerly in the 
gardens of the Royal Horticultural Society, 
and now placed near the entrance to the 
Royal Albert Hall, London, commemorates 
the visit of the Queen and Prince to the 
island in August, 1846. It is erected near 
the spot where they landed, and represents 
the Prince in the robes of the Order of the 
Garter. It was cast in copper at a cost of 
1,200?. 

St. Anne, Alderney. A gateway leading 
into the churchyard was " Erected by the 
people of Alderney " to commemorate 
the visit of the Queen and Prince Albert in 
1846. It is inscribed : " Albert, 1846." 

Aberdeen. In Union Street, near Union 
Bridge, is Marochetti's statue of Prince 



Albert. It was unveiled by Queen Victoria 
on 13 October, 1863. 

The following relate to. other royal', 
personages : 

Lichfield. On 30 September, 1908, the 
Earl of Dartmouth unveiled a statue of 
King Edward VII. which had been presented 
to the city by Mr. Robert Bridgman, the 
sculptor, in commemoration of his year of 
office as Sheriff. 

Medallion portraits of King Edward and 
Queen Alexandra, affixed to the front of 
the Lichfield Guildhall, were unveiled on 
17 September, 1910. 

Hickleton, Yorkshire. In the proximity 
of Hickleton Hall, the seat of Viscount Hali- 
fax, a King Edward memorial cross has 
recently been erected. The cross, which 
stands about 20 feet high, is constructed of 
Portland stone, with local stone forming the 
base. In the centre of the cross itself is 
carved on the front a figure of the B. V. 
Mary bearing our Lord in her arms, and at 
the back are the three lions of England. The 
following is inscribed at the base : 

" To Edward the Seventh, King of England. 
This Cross is erected in memory of the past by 
Charles Lindley, Viscount Halifax, his faithful 
subject and servant, May 6th, 1910. 

" Grant him, O Lord, eternal rest, and let 
light perpetual shine upon him." 

Alnwick, Northumberland. In the neigh- 
bourhood of Alnwick Castle is a pillar in- 
scribed as follows : 

"William the Lion 
King of Scotland 

besieging 
Alnwick Castle 

was here 

taken Prisoner 

MCLXXIV. 

Two or three hundred yards north of the 
chapel dedicated to St. Leonard is a cross - 
bearing the following inscriptions : 

Malcolm III. 
King of Scotland 

besieging 

Alnwick Castle 

was slain here, 

Nov. 13, An. MXCIII. 



K. Malcolm's Cross 

decayed by time 

was restored by 

his descendant 

Elizabeth 
Duchess of Northumberland 

TMDCCLXXIV. 

Chislehurst. On Chislehurst Common, . 
hard by Camden Place, for some years the 
residence of the family of the third Napoleon, 
ex-Emperor of the French, is a granite 



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cross erected to the memory of the ill-fated 
Prince Imperial. On the pedestal are the 
following inscriptions : 

[Front.] 

Napoleon Eugene Louis Jean Joseph, 

Prince Imperial, 

Killed in Zululand, 

1st June, 1879. 

[JBflw*.] 

" I shall die with a sentiment of profound 
gratitude for Her Majesty the Queen of England 
;and all the Royal Family, and for the country 
where I have received for eight years such 
cordial hospitality." 

In memory of the Prince Imperial and in 
sorrow at his death this cross is erected by the 
residents of Chislehurst, 1880. 

The first of the latter inscriptions is an 
extract from the young Prince's will. 

JOHN T. PAGE. 
Long Itchington, \Yarwickshire. 

Nicholas Howe's monument, for which 
MB. PAGE inquired at 11 S. ii. 243, is situated 
an the village of Little Barford, Beds, and 
consists of a four-sided pillar about 3 feet 
high. The inscription on the sides runs as 
follows : 

(1) The Poet Rowe was born in this house 
1673 (2) Author of Jane Shore sevral Tragedies 
and Translator of Lucan (3 ) Master of Polite Learn- 
ing and the Classical Authors (4) A secretary of 
State To Queen Ann, and Poet Laureate to King 
George. 

The above information has been kindly 
supplied me by Mr. J. H. Alington of Little 
Barford, whose grandfather erected the 
memorial. He adds : 

" The story is that the mother of the poet was 
travelling, and that the house (which is now the 
end one of a row of joined cottages in which 
labourers live) was a wayside inn, where she 
lodged at the time of his birth." 

W. R. B. PBIDEAUX. 

Reform Club. 



THE EARLIEST TELEGRAPHY. 

ACCORDING to an article by Mr. T. Sturdee 
"in The Strand Magazine for October last, 
" it was not until 1795, when Lord George 
Murray introduced his semaphore system, 
that anything like an efficient means of 
telegraphic communication was established." 
This implies the earlier existence of such 
communication ; and that idea is borne out 
in an article in the same magazine for 
.September by Mr. Bernard Darwin on * Some 
Curious Wagers.' That tells of a bet 
by the Duke of Queensberry with a Mr. 
Edgworth, which could have been won by the 



latter if it had not been that, " having in his 
mind a system of semaphores, he blurted out 
that he didn't mean to rely upon horses." 
There is a tantalizing absence of dates from 
this anecdote, but conjecturally it is of about 
1750 ; and I should be interested to know 
whether there is a contemporary description 
of any earlier system of telegraphic com- 
munication than that which I give below. 

In The London Chronicle for 3-6 January, 
1767, appeared the following :^ 

CORSICAN GAZETTE. 
Iftolarossa, August 28. 

On the 17th of this month, arrived here from 
Corte, two English Gentlemen, to embark on 
their return to Tuscany. They had been in- 
formed at Corte, of an invention by the Abbes 
Giulani and Liccia of our province, of a new con- 
trivance which they call, 11 Corri&re Volante, The 
Flying Courier ; by means of which, notice may 
be communicated in a few instants from one 
place to another, at the distance of many miles. 
The two young Abb6s were here at the arrival of 
these Gentlemen, who being desirous to see an 
experiment made of the new contrivance, it was 
accordingly made on the terrace of this tower, 
at the square of Saint Reperata, and the English 
Gentlemen were highly satisfied and pleased 
with it. Some months ago, when his Excellency 
the General was here, a like experiment was made, 
at the distance of ten miles, which succeeded 
perfectly well. As these English Gentlemen 
encouraged the two Abbes to inform the Publick 
of their invention, the following account of it is 
given, that the Publick may judge of the ad- 
vantages to be derived from it. 

The FLYING COURIER is a portable machine, 
which serves for the purpose of communicating 
at the distance of many miles a notice or advice, 
as clearly and distinctly, as if a voice was heard, 
or it was seen written on a leaf. 

To perform this operation, three things are 
necessary. 1. That the place from whence the 
notice is to be sent, which we shall call A, com- 
mand a view of the place to which the notice is 
directed, which we shall call B. 2. That at the 
place A, there be a machine with a person in- 
formed of the notice intended to be communicated 
to the place B. 3. That at the place B, there be 
another person with a similar machine, in order 
to return an answer to the place A, as shall be 
necessary. 

This operation is not restricted so as only 
to communicate intelligence from A to B, but the 
instant it is received at B, it may be conveyed to 
C, and from C may be conveyed to D, and so on, 
although C and D be not seen by A, provided that 
at every one of the places there be these machines, 
and the persons who perform, know at what 
precise time the operation is to be, so that they 
may stand in fixed attention. In this manner, 
the same notice may fly in a few hours from the 
one extremity to the other of a kingdom. 

This operation may be performed just now at 
the distance of 25 miles from one machine to 
another ; and when the machine shall be furnished 
with certain springs, Avhich are yet wanting, it 
may be done at the distance of 50 miles. It may 



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be done by night, as well as by day, provided 
that the air be not charged with a low cloudy 
atmosphere, or any other dark vapour. 

Although the operation is performed in public, 
advice is communicated with the greatest secrecy, 
as it can neither be heard nor understood but by 
the persons who assist at the machines. Nay, if 
he who sends or receives the advice is desirous 
to conceal it, even from these persons, there is 
a method of doing it freely. 

In tine, this operation is performed with great 
expedition ; for, in a quarter of an hour may be 
communicated a period, containing about two 
huadred letters. Add to this, that the machine 
situated at the place A not only communicates 
advice to the other at the place B, but does not 
attempt it before being certain of being heard 
at B. 

Although so apparently precise, this 
description sadly lacks detail concerning the 
apparatus employed. Can that detail be 
found elsewhere ? ALFRED F. BOBBINS. 



SIR JOHN CHANDOS. In ' The Life of the 
Black Prince, by the Herald of Sir John 
Chandos,' recently edited by Miss Mildred 
K. Pope and Miss Eleanor C. Lodge of Oxford 
University, and published at the Clarendon 
Press (1910), it is stated in the 'Index of 
Proper Names,' p. 242, that Sir John 
Chandos was " son of Thomas Chandos, 
Sheriff of Herefordshire." This is an error 
the repetition of which in this important 
edition of the Chandos Herald's poem in- 
creases the need for its correction. 

The great Sir John Chandos, a knight- 
founder of the Order of the Garter, Viscount 
of St. Sauveur in Normandy, Constable of 
Aquitaine, and Seneschal of Poitou, was 
son and heir of Sir Edward Chandos, a dis- 
tinguished Derbyshire knight. Sir Edward, 
who received rewards for his service in the 
war with Scotland and for other services 
in the early reign of Edward III., was a 
constant friend and companion of that king. 

Sir John's parentage is correctly stated 
in his life in the ' Dictionary of National 
Biography,' which expressly cautions the 
reader against the above error, and that 
authority is, moreover, referred to on p. 242 
mentioned above. M. Fillon, who is also 
there cited as an authority, and some other 
writers had earlier made the mistake of 
confusing this Sir John Chandos, the last of 
the knightly house of Chandos of Derbyshire, 
with another Sir John Chandos, son of the 
above Sir Thomas Chandos, and last of 
the male line of the baronial house of 
Chandos of Herefordshire and Shropshire. 
The latter Sir John died within the years 
1428-30 (the ' D.N.B.' says 10 Dec., 1428) 
without issue, some sixty years after the 



death of his renowned kinsman, his sister's 
descendants becoming, in the eighteenth 
century, Dukes of Chandos. 

The knightly family of Chandos of Derby- 
shire, sprung from the baronial house, and 
seated in the county of Derby for five 
generations, is now represented by Chandos- 
Pole of Radbourne, through the marriage 
in the reign of Richard II. of Peter de la Pole 
and Elizabeth, niece and eventual sole 
heiress of Sir John Chandos of Radbourne r 
the famous warrior. The above Sir Thomas 
Chandos was in the King's division at Crecy, 
while his contemporary Sir John Chandos 
of the Derbyshire branch of the family was 
in attendance upon, and fighting beside, 
the youthful Prince of Wales, then only 
sixteen years old. R. E. E. CHAMBERS. 

Pill House, Bishop's Tawton, Barnstaple. 

JAMES FORSYTE. The article in the 
'D.N.B.' on this Indian traveller needs some 
corrections. 

Capt. Forsyth joined the Bengal Army 
(not the Civil Service) in February, 1857, 
after receiving a university education not in 
England, but in Scotland. After some 
years of military service he was appointed 
Assistant Conservator, and acting Conser- 
vator of Forests in the Saugor and Nerbudda 
Territories. He was subsequently trans- 
ferred to the Central Provinces Commission, 
and after a time was nominated Settlement 
Officer, and then Deputy Commissioner of 
Nimar. He joined the Bengal Staff Corps 
in 1861, and was promoted to the rank of 
captain 20 February, 1869. His book ' The 
Highlands of Central India ' contained 
accounts of some, but by no means all, of his 
travels and explorations in the Central 
Provinces. R. E. B. 

" ELZE "= ALREADY. ' Glints o' Glen- 
gonnar,' by Christina Fraser, recently pub- 
lished, consists of a series of sketches illustrat- 
ing the life of dwellers in a remote district 
of Upper Clydesdale. The writer manifestly 
knows her people well, and perhaps the 
most fully presented character in her group is 
" Easie," the local shopkeeper, an incomer 
who has permanently retained certain impres- 
sions received in her native parish. Among 
these is the use of some words which are un- 
familiar to her youthful auditors : 

" Easie had twae words she used often, ' elze * 
and ' efterhin.' Jf a baker or cadger had come 
suner than she expected, she wad say, ' Is that 
you, elze ? I didna think it was that time o' day ' ; 
or, if we had been sent an erran' an' cam' back 
quick, she wad say, * Are ye back, elze ? Juist 
rin like a whittret/ If it was something she wad 
do later, she wad say'she wad do't efterhin." 



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"Efterhin" or " efterhend," for after- 
wards, and "whittret" for weasel, are still in 
fairly general use throughout the Lowlands ; 
but " elze " in the sense of already is less 
commonly known. Indeed, it is questionable 
if many who are familiar with the native 
speech ever heard it, to say nothing of 
including; it in their vocabulary. It is an 
interesting survival of the form " ellis " or 
*' els," which Jamieson in the ' Scottish 
Dictionary ' illustrates by quotations from 
Barbour, Gavin Douglas, * Sir Eg;eir,' and 
Archbishop Hamiltoun's ' Catechisme ' of 
1551. That it signifies " already," and is 
distinct from the other " ellis " or " elles," 
which means else or otherwise, there seems to 
be no doubt whatever. All Jamieson' s 
examples support the distinction. Mr. 
Small in his edition of Gavin Douglas either 
ignored or discredited this specific meaning, 
for he gives it no place in his glossary. 
Douglas uses the word in his version of 
* ^Eneid ' iv. 135, where the poet describes 
Dido's waiting hunter : 

Hir fers steid stude stamping, reddy ellis, 
Rungeand the fomy goldin bitt jingling. 

It might, of course, be suggested that the 
word in this instance means " otherwise," 
or " apart from his rider " ; but it seems 
better to take it in the sense of the Latin 
jam, conveniently rendered in English as 
" already." 

Mr. Small glosses an example of " ellis " 
which occurs in Douglas's * Proloug of the 
First Buik of Eneados.' In this curiously 
critical and apologetic deliverance the 
translator makes it clear that he thinks 
liimself unworthy to stand English sponsor 
for Virgil, but he reflects that at least one 
predecessor has made a disgraceful show, 
and he concludes that he is warranted in 
offering his experiment. Then he brings the 
matter to an issue in this wise : 

Thocht sum wald sweir that I the text haue vareit, 
Or that I haue this volume quyte myscareit, 
Or threip planlie that I <?om neuer neir hand it, 
Or that the werk is wers than evir I fand it, 
Or 3 it argew Virgile stuide wele befoir, 
As now war tyme to schift the wers ouer scoir ; 
Ellis haue I said, thair ma be na compair 
JBetwixt his versis and my style wlgair. 

In his glossary Mr. Small says that 
" ellis " in this passage is the A.-S. elles, 
and means " else." In view of what pre- 
cedes, the interpretation " already " seems 
preferable. The translator introduces him- 
self by saying that instead of attempting to 
counterfeit the precious words of " mast 
reuerend Virgill," he is disposed to kneel 



when he hears them, and then he strenu- 
ously proceeds as follows : 

For quhat compair betuix midday and nycht^ 
Or quhat compare betuix myrknes and lycht, 
Or quhat compare is betuix blak and quhyte, 
Far gretar diference betuix my blunt endyte 
And thi scharp sugurat sang Virgiliane, 
Sa wyslie wrocht with neuir ane word in vane, 
My waverand wit, my cunnyng feble at all, 
My mynd mysty, thir ma nocht myss ane fall. 

All this and more shows the exponent's 
ostensible attitude, and gives warrant for 
his later statement, " Ellis [i.e. already] 
haue I said." 

Jamieson's commentary on " Ellis, al- 
ready," runs thus : 

" There is no evidence that A.-S. ealles was ever 
used in this sense. Nor have I observed any 
cognate term ; unless we view this as originally 
Moes.-G. allis, A.-S. eallis, omnino (plenarie, 
Benson), used obliquely. The phrase in Virg. 
reddy ellis, if thus resolved, would signify ' coin- 
pleatly ready.' It merits consideration, that this 
is evidently analogous to the formation of the 
E. synom. already, q. omnino paratum." 

THOMAS BAYNE. 

LONGFELLOW ON DTJFRESNY. In Long- 
fellow's ' Hyperion ' occurs the following : 

" ' After all,' said Flemming, with a sigh, 
' poverty is not a crime.' ' But something 
worse,' interrupted the Baron ; ' as Dufresny 
said when he married his laundress, because he 
could not pay her bill. He was the author, as 
you know, of the opera ' Lot,' at whose representa- 
tion the great pun was made. I say the great 
pun, as we say the great Tun of Heidelberg. As 
one of the performers was singing the line, 
' V amour a vaincu Loth* (vingt culottes), a voice 
from the pit cried out ' Qu'il en donne une li 
fauteur / ' " 

A few days after the publication in The 
Gentleman's Magazine (March, 1895) of my 
article ' Moliere on the Stage,' describing the 
numerous plays founded on incidents of the 
great French dramatist's life, I received a 
letter from a former contributor to ' N. & Q.,' 
the late Dr. Paul Q. Karkeek of Torquay, 
asking me for information about Dufresny 's 
opera. He said he had been trying for years 
to obtain a copy of the work mentioned by 
Longfellow, but had not been successful. I 
had never heard of such a work, and it is 
certainly not in any of the editions of 
Dufresny's collected plays. The only play 
of Dufresny's bearing some resemblance to 
the title of ' Lot,' I could suggest, was * Le 
Lot suppos6 ; ou, La Coquette de Village ' ; 
but it is a comedy, and there are no songs of 
any kind in it. There is no mention of a 
play or opera called ' Lot ' in the 'Anecdotes 
dramatiques (contenant le Titre de toutes 
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Spectacles en France),' the best compilation 
of the kind published in the eighteenth 
century ; and it has no place among the 
operas in Flix Clement's * Dictionnaire des 
Operas,' issued near the end of the nine- 
teenth century. 

In October of the same year I went over to 
Paris for a few days, and met the late M. 
Victorien Sardou at the Cafe" Tortoni, on the 
Boulevard des Italiens, after he had been 
attending a rehearsal of a new play at one 
of the theatres close by. In the course of 
our conversation I mentioned to him the 
passage in Longfellow's ' Hyperion.' M. 
Sardou smiled, and said he had been asked 
the same question by many American 
visitors who had been introduced to him, 
and he had received several letters on the 
subject from unknown admirers in the 
United States. He had come to the con- 
clusion that it was one of the few literary sins 
the charming American poet would have 
to answer for at the Day of Judgment. 

Perhaps some reader of ' N. & Q.' can give 
information about a work of Dufresny 
which has eluded the search of Dr. Karkeek, 
M. Sardou, and myself. It is true that 
Dufresny married as his second wife a 
laundress, and Le Sage has made this one 
of the incidents of his novel * Le Diable 
Boiteux.' Dufresny, however, was by no 
means the literary martyr one would suppose 
on reading Longfellow's ' Hyperion.' As 
the Abb6 de Castres said : "II avoit deux 
passions qui devoroinent tout, 1' amour de la 
table et celui des femmes." 

ANDBEW DE TEBNANT. 
25, Speenham Road, Brixton, S.W. 



WE must request corresp9ndents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 



SOPHIE DAWES, BABONNE DE FEUCHEBES 
Will some correspondent refer me to the 
fullest account of the life of this notorious 
person before she met the Due de Bourbon, 
and after his death when she returned to 
England ? I already have a full account 
of her extraordinary life in France, and I am 
most anxious to get more particulars of her 
English career, parentage, childhood, and 
her life in Hants and in London on her 
return to England. The ' D.N.B.' states 
that she died in Hyde Park Square, 2 Janu- 
ary, 1841, and that she had also a house in 



Hampshire. I should like to know where 
she lived in that county. From documents 
in Somerset House I find that she died at 
Great Cumberland Street on 15 December, 
1840. It is known that Baron Gerard 
painted two portraits of her in 1829 and 
1830. I much wish to trace these portraits, 
and any other portrait of her, if such exists. 
She was born in St. Helens, Isle of Wight, 
the year being variously stated as 1785, 
1790, and 1792. Letters of administration 
were granted in February, 1843, to James 
Daw or Dawes of St. Helen's, Isle of Wight, 
Mary Ann Clark of 5, Hyde Park Square, 
and Charlotte Thanaron, resident in 
France, her brother and sisters, who in- 
herited most of her great wealth. Is any- 
thing known of them or their descendants ? 

JOHN LANE. 

Miss WYKEHAM, BABONESS WENMAN. 
Can any reader direct my attention to the 
best account of Miss Wykeham, to whom the 
Duke of Clarence is said to have proposed so 
many times ? 

Sophia Elizabeth was the only child of 
William Richard Wykeham of Swalcliffe. 
She inherited from her grandmother (Hon. 
Sophia Wenman) all Lord Wenman's 
estates in Oxfordshire, including Thame 
Park. The Duke of Clarence afterwards 
William IV. was reported to have proposed 
to her in 1818. He subsequently created 
her Baroness Wenman, 3 June, 1834. She 
died unmarried 9 August, 1870. 

I should also like to know who her repre- 
sentatives are, and if there is any portrait 
of her in existence ; one would like to see 
the portrait of the lady who so persistently 
refused to be Queen of England. 

JOHN LANE. 

Vigo Street, W. 

ALDEBMAN WILCOX. Who was this ? 
Mr. Seccombe in his article on Titus Oates 
in ' Diet. Nat. Biog.' (xli. 300) writes of 
" a dinner given by Alderman Wilcox in 
the city in the summer of 1680," at which 
Oates and Tonge " disputed their respective 
claims to the proprietorship of the plot." 

It is certain that no person named Wilcox 
has ever been elected an Alderman of Lon- 
don, at any rate since the end of the thir- 
teenth century, nor is such a name preserved 
amongst those returned to the Court of 
Aldermen by the wards for the Court's 
final choice. I imagine the person referred 
to must have been the " John Wilcox, 
brewer," elected Sheiiff of London on 
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a successor being chosen on 1 August (City 
Records, Journal 47, fo. 284). Can any 
reader of ' N. & Q.' tell me anything more 
about him ? ALFRED B. BEAVEN. 

Greyfriars, Leamington. 

BENJAMIN D' ISRAELI OF DUBLIN. What 
relation was Benjamin D' Israeli of the city 
of Dublin, notary public about the end of 
the eighteenth century, to Lord Beacons - 
field, and what is known of his career ? I 
believe he left money to some Irish charities. 

J. T. 

Dublin. 

TEESDALE LEGION. Can any of your 
readers assist me to find particulars about 
a volunteer corps called the Teesdale Legion ? 
It existed in the south of co. Durham 
some time during the latter part of the 
eighteenth century or the first few years of 
the nineteenth. W. L. VANE. 

Thornfield, Darlington. 

CAPT. WITH AM AND THE SIEGE OF GIBRAL- 
TAR. In 'England's Artillerymen,' by 
J. A. Browne, published in 1865, the follow- 
ing passage occurs in reference to the sortie 
of the garrison in November, 1781, during the 
great siege of Gibraltar : 

" Two Spanish Officers were taken prisoners. 
One, a Lieutenant, was taken in the middle of the 
battery by Capt. Witham, of the Royal Artillery, 
who commanded the detachment of the Corps 
out upon this service. The Spanish Officer was 
armed with a drawn sword, when Capt. Witham, 
with a fire-brand only in his hand, -seized him 
by the sword arm, and in Spanish demanded the 
key of the magazine of that battery. The Lieu- 
tenant, Don Vincente Friza, replied, ' Todo es 
Bombas ' (the whole is a magazine), and gave 
up his sword." 

Can any one give the authority for this 
story ? The author of the book does not 
remember from what source he obtained it. 
The present representatives of the Witham 
family possess a seal with the motto " Todo 
es Bombas " upon it, which confirms the 
existence of the story. 

Ancell and Spilsbury refer to the incident, 
but no one else, as far as I know, mentions 
the " Todo es bombas " part of the story. 
Bomba means a " shell." J. H. LESLIE. 

Dykes Hall, Sheffield. 

GRANGE COURT, ST. CLEMENT DANES. 
Can any one tell me if there is a record or 
list of the solicitors who lived in the above 
court between 1730 and 1750 ? Information 
is wanted about Edmund Combe, de- 
scribed as of Grange Court, and Hartley 
- Wintney, Hants. T. R. M. 



THACKERAY AND PUGILISM. The article 
on * Pugilism ' in ' Chambers' s Encyclo- 
paedia,' 1901, vol. viii. p. 486, says*. 
' Thackeray .... devoted one of his ' Round- 
about Papers ' to the fight between Sayers 
and Heenan." Where did this originally 
appear ? Has it been reprinted ? 

Also, in Temple Bar for January, 1864, 
under the heading of ' The Millers and their 
Men ' appeared a most racily - written 
account of the fight between Heenan and 
Tom King, signed "P." I should be glad 
to know the author's name, and if he wrote 
any more * Idylls of the Ring.' H. P. 

[See Mr. Lewis Melville's useful ' Bibliography ' 
in his ' Thackeray : a Biography ' (Lane, 1909). 
The account desired is No. 1062 in the list: 
" Roundabout Papers. V. On Some Late Great 
Victories. With an Illustration. Cornhill Maga- 
zine, June, 1860 ; vol. i. pp. 755-60."] 

THACKERAY AND THE STAGE. About 
twenty years ago Mr. Chas. P. Johnson said 
in The Athenaeum that he had acquired a 
playbill of a piece called ' Jeames, the Rail- 
road Footman of Berkeley Square,' which 
was produced at the Theatre Royal, Liver, 
Church Street (Liverpool), 13 July, 1846. 
I shall be glad if any one will put me in 
communication with Mr. Johnson if he is 
still alive. S. J. ADAIR FITZ-GERALD. 

8, Lancaster Road, Bowes Park, N. 

THOMAS JAMES THACKERAY. This rather 
versatile writer and adapter of plays seems 
to have " flourished " between 1826 and 
1854. Two of his plays are ' The Barber 
Baron,' from the French (through the Ger- 
man), Theatre Royal, Haymarket, 8 Sep- 
tember, 1828, and ' The Force of Nature/ 
same theatre, 4 August, 1830. He also 
wrote and lectured about rifle shooting. 
The ' D.N.B.' is silent as to his career. 
Was he in any way related to W. M. Thacke- 
ray ? S. J. A. F. 

"OR. GOLDSMITH, B.A." I have before 
me a copy of ' The Canterbury Tales of 
Chaucer, to which are added an Essay upon 
his Language,' &c. (by T. Tyrwhitt), pub- 
lished in 4 vols., small 8vo, by T. Payne, 
London, 1775. The title-pages of yols. i. 
and ii. respectively bear the following inscrip- 
tions in a contemporary clerkly hand (cer- 
tainly not that of the author of ' The 
Vicar of Wakefield'): vol. i., "the Gift 
of O r Goldsmith to Edw d . Bratt"; vol. ii., 
"The Gift of O. Goldsmith, B.A., to M r 
Edward Bratt." As Dr. Oliver Goldsmith 
died in April, 1774, it seems difficult to 
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but if not, who was the donor, and who 
was his friend Edward Bratt ? It has 
occurred to me that the first two volumes 
may have been published before the other 
two, early in 1774, but, it being foreseen that 
the work could not be completed until 1775, 
they were postdated. As the two inscrip- 
tions do not exactly correspond, the two 
volumes were not probably issued together. 
If this hypothesis be correct, the books may 
have been sent, and inscribed by the 
publisher, at the donor's request. 

Unfortunately, no entry of this edition 
of Chaucer is to be found in the Register of 
the Stationers' Company, so the actual date 
of publication cannot be ascertained ; but 
the work was noticed in Gent. Mag. for 
March, 1775. Can any of your readers help 
me to clear up these points ? 

J. S. ATTWOOD. 

Reading. 

MONTAGU GERHARD DRAKE was admitted 
on the foundation at Westminster School in 
1725, and died young. He is described in 
the parentelce of that year as the son of 
William Drake, " Abberburiae," co. Oxford. 
I should be glad to obtain further particulars 
of his parentage, and the date of his death. 

G. F. R. B. 

RICHARD HEYLIN was elected from West- 
minster School to Christ Church, Oxford, 
in 1644. I should be glad to ascertain 
anything about him. In the last edition 
of Welch's ' Alumni Westmonasterienses ' he 
is erroneously identified with Richard Heylin, 
Canon of Christ Church, who died 26 April, 
1669, aged 72. G. F. R. B. 

WILLIAM JOSEPH LOCKWOOD is stated in 
' Burke' s Landed Gentry ' to have been 
" shot blind by the mob at Westminster 
School," where he was admitted 1 Feb., 
1773. Where can any account of this 
occurrence be found ? I should be glad also 
to obtain the respective dates of his birth 
and death. G. F. R. B. 

THOMAS CORYAT AND WESTMINSTER 
SCHOOL. What ground has Mr. John W. 
Cousin for saying in * A Short Biographical 
Dictionary of English Literature ' (" Every- 
man's Library," 1910) that Coryat (1577- 
1617) was educated at Westminster and 
Oxford ? The ' D.N.B.' and the * Pub- 
lishers' Note ' to ' Coryat's Crudities ' 
(MacLehose & Son, 1905) both state that 
he entered Gloucester Hall, Oxford, in 1596, 
but are silent as to his earlier education. 

URLLAD. 



AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. 
Captives of his (or my) bow and spear. 

(Rev.) S. SLADEN. 
63, Ridgmount Gardens, W.C. 

" The penalty of not taking an interest in 
the Government you are under is to live under the 
government of bad men." 

Quoted in 'The Citizen's Handbook,' 

prepared by a Committee of the Enfield 
Public Welfare Association. 

T. F. HUSBAND. 

" TEETOTAL " : EARLY USE. (See 8 S. 
xi. 384; xii. 74, 154.) Mr. F. W. Cornish 
writes in his * English Church in the Nine- 
teenth Century' (1910: at II. v. 97): 

" In February, 1830, the ' Bradford Society for 
Promoting Temperance,' the first society to which 
the name ' Teetotal ' (i.e. ' total ') was given, was 
founded by Henry Forbes." 

Can information be given as to when Dicky 
Turner's word migrated to Yorkshire in this 
way ? Q. V. 

HACKNEY AND TOM HOOD. In a very 
amusing letter of Tom Hood's (quoted in 
Walter Jerrold's biography), the poet 
describes his adventures in Hackney. He 
had been invited to a ball, and just when 
(as he humorously parodies Sir Walter, I 
think) 

Hackney had gathered then 
Her beauty and her chivalry all bright, 
And there were well-dressed women and brave men, 

a chimneystack was blown down and hurled 
through the house, which stood close to a 
private asylum. Can any one identify the 
persons and the locality for us ? Who was 
proprietor of the madhouse ? 

M. L. R. BRESLAR. 
Percy House, South Hackney. 

Miss PASTRANA. In a foreign dealer's 
recent catalogue I find this once famous 
lady described as " Miss Julia Pastrana, the 
well-known bearded Mexican danseuse. 
Middle of last century." Were there two 
ladies of that name and fame ? I dis- 
tinctly remember having seen as a small boy 
an exceedingly ugly, monkey-like creature, 
but she performed in a circus on a regula- 
tion " paste-board " strapped on the back 
of the usual plump grey cob, and jumped 
through hoops, over ribbons, &c. 

L. L. K. 

LADY ELIZABETH PRESTON, FIRST 
DUCHESS OF ORMONDE. I should be grateful 
for information of any existing portrait 
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Lady Fanshawe in her memoirs. Lord 
Ormonde has informed me that there is no 
picture of her in his possession, and I have 
been unable to trace one anywhere else. 

H. C. FANSHAWE. 
72, Philbeach Gardens, S.W. 

COUNTY COATS OF ARMS : ARMS OF Co. 
SOMERSET. Would any reader who is 
interested in heraldry inform me whether 
each county in England possesses a coat of 
arms, and what the arms of the county of 
Somerset are ? BLADUD. 

[County badges were discussed at length at 
7 S. i., ii., iii., and viii.] 

CORONER OF THE VERGE. When was this 
royal office abolished, and what were the 
duties attached to it ? I do not find it 
mentioned in John Chamberlayne's * Present 
State of Britain,' 1723 ; but in Cowel's 

* Interpreter ' it is thus noticed, s.v. 

* Coroner ' : 

" Note, there be certain special Coroners within 
divers Liberties, as well as those ordinary Officers 
in every County, as the Coroner of the Verge, which 
is a certain compass about the King's Court, whom 
Cromp, in his * Jurisd.,' fol. 102, calleth the Coroner 
of the King's House, of whose Authority, see Co. 
Rep. fol. 4, lib, 46." 

I believe that a verge, as used in the royal 
household, was a stick or rod whereby a 
person was admitted tenant to a lord of the 
manor. In The Weekly Journal of 5 October, 
1723, is the following paragraph, illustrating 
perhaps a late usage of the office : 

" Mr. White, the present Coroner of the Verge of 
his Majesty's Houshold, is appointed, by the Dean 
and Chapter of Westminster, to be Coroner for that 
City and^ Liberty, in the Room of Mr. Turton, 

J. HOLD EN MACMICHAEL. 

CROWE FAMILIES OF NORFOLK AND SUF- 
FOLK. Carthew's ' Hundred of Launditch ' 
contains a pedigree of Crowes from the 
fifteenth century to the eighteenth. Arms : 
a gyronny of eight sable and or ; on a chief 
of the first, two leopards' faces of the second 
(granted 1614). There was also a Suffolk 
family of the name who bore Gules, a 
chevron between three cocks arg. (granted 
1584). Information is desired in continua- 
tion of Carthew's pedigree, also generally 
about the Suffolk family. Are there any 
representatives of either now living ? 

There were two mayors of Norwich at the 
end of the eighteenth century, James and 
William Crowe of Lakenham, who bore the 
former arms. Can any reader tell me 
who they were ? W. ROBERTS CROW. 



POOR SOULS' LIGHT : 

" TOTENLATERNE." 

(US. ii. 448.) 

THE query by J. D. refers to a very interest- 
ing subject, on which there is plenty of litera- 
ture, with about fifteen theories of explana- 
tion, but no single one is satisfactory in every 
case. I have a large quantity of material, 
but I want what is often difficult, and in 
many cases impossible, to get evidence 
on certain points to elucidate a certain 
theory. In this respect J. D., while giving 
to me at all events something new, omits 
what is important evidence, probably from 
want of knowledge of the literature on the 
subject, which has engaged my attention 
for some years. 

Let me state my position as clearly as I 
can, not only as a help to J. D., but also to 
obtain evidence one way or the other as to 
my theory. . 

There are several peculiarities in ch urches, 
not only in Great Britain, but also on the 
Continent, and not confined to Protestant or 
Roman Catholic edifices, which I have 
treated as local manifestations of a general 
controlling principle. 

1. The axial line of the nave does not 
always coincide with that of the chancel, 
there being a greater or less deflection of the 
latter to north or south. There are four 
theories to account for this. 

2. There are certain perforations in the 
walls of churches, outer or inner, or both, 
which have been called Low Side Windows, 
though a few are High ; Leper Windows, 
Lychnoscopes, Hagioscopes, and the old 
English word Squint, which is more descrip- 
tive than any other, and commits us to no 
theory. They are mostly rectangular and 
narrow, but some are oval or round. Some 
are square with the wall, but generally they 
are aslant and splayed. They all have a 
common characteristic, whatever their shape 
or size or position their axial line points to 
the high altar. There are, as I have said, 
fifteen explanations of these openings, not 
one of which is satisfactory in every case. 
To these I have ventured to add another, 
and for it I am collecting evidence. My 
theory is that these openings are connected 
with orientation. To give full references 
would take half a number of * N. & Q.,' 
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necessary, the subject having been discussed 
in previous volumes. 

As a guide to J. D. and others, it may be 
permissible to say that for deflection of 
chancels, see 2 S. xi. 55 ; 10 S. viii. 392 ; 
Seroux d'Agincouit, ' History of Art by 
its Monuments,' vol. ii., pi. xiv., xvii. ; 
vol. iii. pi. xxvii., xcviii., cxxxiv., cliv. ; 
Lasham, * Three Surrey Churches,' pp. 88- 
109 ; Planche, * A Corner of Kent,' 
pp. 410-12 ; Atkinson, ' Memorials of Old 
Whitby,' pp. 104, 110, 124, 126, 129, 147-8, 
149-51. 

For the other points see 2 S. x. 68, 118, 
253, 312, 357, 393 ; xi. 34, 55, 412 ; 7 S. i. 
387, 435 ; vii. 251, 470 ; Arch. Journal, 
iii. 299, 308 ; iv. 314-26 ; The Reliquary, 
ix. 9-16 ; The Ecclesiologist, New Series, 
vii. 65-75, 101-2, 141-2; viii. 166-71, 
288-90, 374-5; ix. 113-17, 187-9, 252-3, 
348-52. 

It would assist materially if J. D. could 
supply a fuller description of the two 
churches he mentions, or give references to 
where descriptions can be obtained. For 
instance, according to a gazetteer I con- 
sulted, there are about a dozen Rothenburgs 
in Germany and Switzerland. 

A. RHODES. 

[We cannot afford space for the further dis- 
cussion of such a wide subject, but will forward 
any letters to MR. RHODES.] 

When I was visiting Garway Church in 
Herefordshire several years ago, an opening 
high up in the wall of the part connecting the 
church with the tower was pointed out to 
me as an example of a "poor souls' light." 

R. B R. 

South Shields. 

Father Thurston, S. J., in ' The Catholic 
Encyclopaedia,' iii. 507, writes : 

" A curious feature found in many churchyards 
from the twelfth to the fourteenth century, 
especially in France, is the so-called lanterne (fes 
worts, a stone erection sometimes 20 or 30 feet 
high, surmounted by a lantern, and presenting a 
general resemblance to a small lighthouse. The 
lantern seems to have been lighted only on certain 
feasts or vigils, and in particular on All Souls' 
Day. An altar is commonly found at the foot 
of the column. Various theories have been 
suggested to explain these remarkable objects, 
but no one of them can be considered satisfactory." 

One may compare the French and Italian 
custom of putting lighted candles on graves 
on All Souls' Eve. 

Mr. Leopold Wagner, in his ' Manners, 
Customs, and Observances,' p. 270, states 



that in the time of the Druids the ancient 
Irish prayed to Saman, the Lord of Death, in 
front of their lighted candles, for the souls 
of their departed relatives. Father Thurston 
in ' The Catholic Encyclopaedia,' iii. 247, 
says : "St. Cyprian in 258 was buried 
proelucentibus ceris" 

At the present day, at all solemn Requiem 
Masses, lighted tapers are held in the hands 
of some or all of those who assist, both among 
those who follow the Byzantine Rite and 
among those who follow the Latin. 

JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT. 

Mueller and Mothes in their (German) 
* Archaeological Dictionary,' s.v. ' Todten- 
leuchte,' quote the following passage from 
Petrus Venerabilis (died 1156) to explain the 
use of these lights : 

" Obtinet medium cimeterii locum structura 
qusedam lapidea, habens in summitate sua quanti- 
tatem unius lampadis coparum quse ob reverentiam 
fidelium ibi quiescentium totis noctibus fulgore 
suo locum ilium sacratum illustrat." 

According to the same authors, such 
lights were either burnt on isolated columns 
or in stone lamps attached to church walls. 
Examples of the former kind are still extant 
in France (12th century) and Germany (13th 
to 16th centuries). In Germany their use 
was abandoned about the latter date. 

Illustrations are given in the book of an 
isolated light in Freistadt (Upper Austria) 
dating from about A.D. 1488, and of an 
attached lantern against the wall of St. 
Stephen's Cathedral in Vienna (A.D. 1502). 

Other examples mentioned are those at 
Schulpforta (13th century), Regensburg 
(Cathedral, 14th century), and Klosterneu- 
burg (A.D. 1381), the last being about 30 feet 
high. Others are to be found in Austria 
and Westphalia, but the localities are not 
given. 

Tapers and lamps are nowadays stUl burnt 
on graves in Roman Catholic cemeteries on 
the Continent, but only on one evening in 
the year, viz., on All Souls' Eve. L. L. K. 

In a very few remote Roman Catholic 
villages in Germany, e.g., in Westphalia, a 
" Totenlaterne " is lighted when a child 
dies. At the funeral the " Totenlaterne" is 
carried before the coffin to the graveside. 
When the burial service is over, the " Toten- 
laterne " is brought back to its place in the 
church and then extinguished. The Roman 
Catholic priest to whom I owe this informa- 
tion thought that nothing definite was 
known of the origin of this rare and almost 
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A " Totenlaterne " is to be distinguished 
from an " Ewige Lampe." An " Ewige 
Lampe " is lighted and placed before the 
picture of a deceased near relation. The 
praying before the " Eternal Lamp " has 
the same object as the reading of masses for 
the souls of the departed, i.e., the hope of 
shortening the time the departed has to 
spend in Purgatory. H. G. WARD. 

Aachen. 

In June last, when looking at some of the 
old tombstones in the cemetery of Linz, 
a picturesque little town on the Rhine near 
the Drachenfels, I noticed small lamps 
burning before some of the graves. 

J. R. THORNE. 



EARLY GRADUATION : GILBERT BTJRNET, 
JOHN BALFOUR (11 S. ii. 427). MR. P. J. 
ANDERSON, after instancing the case of a 
student who graduated at Aberdeen when 
just under thirteen years and six months 
old, asks whether that record can be broken. 
It can. A southern university has seen an 
example of still greater precocity. 

William Wotton of St. Catharine's College, 
Cambridge, afterwards Fellow of St. John's, 
who was born on 13 August, 1666, was 
" only twelve years and five months old 
when he commenced Bachelor in January " 
[1679] (' Hist, of St. Cath. College,' by Dr. 
G. Forrest Browne, Bishop of Bristol). 
Although at this early age a year one way or 
the other makes a real difference, there is 
some discrepancy among writers who have 
referred to Wotton' s juvenile success. J. H. 
Monk in his ' Life of Richard Bentley,' 
vol. i. p. 10, 2nd ed., speaks of Wotton at the 
time of his degree as " a boy of thirteen." 
The ' D.N.B.' life of Bentley, by Sir Richard 
Jebb, says that Wotton " became a bachelor 
of arts at the age of fourteen." The pub- 
lished lists of ' Graduati Cantabrigienses ' 
from 1659 to 1787 and from 1659 to 1823 give 
1679 as the year in which Bentley as well as 
Wotton graduated. Now Bentley, who as 
an undergraduate was Wotton's contem- 
porary, appears to have taken his degree 
on 23 January, 1680. Can January, 1679, 
when Wotton became a B. A., be the historical 
year 1680 ? In either case, it may be 
observed, Wotton was younger than John 
Balfour when he proceeded to his first 
degree. Nor was Wotton without distinction 
in later life. Sir H. Craik treats him with 
singular harshness in his ' Life of Jonathan 
.Swift,' 1882, p. 66: "He faded into a 
maturity of eccentric and licentious nonen- 



ity." Dr. Norman Moore in ' D.N.B.' 
^ives a far juster estimate. One piece of 
eccentricity at least should be remembered 
to his credit. An Englishman holding 
a benefice in Wales, Wotton learnt the 

anguage of ^ the country and published a 
Welsh sermon. EDWARD BENSLY. 

COLANI AND THE REFORMATION (US. ii. 

488). Though born in France, Timothee 
Colani (1824-88) received his" religious 
education in Germany, and subsequently 
settled at Geneva, where he assisted in the 
publication of a paper called La Reformation 
au dix-neuvieme Siecle. As a college thesis 
he had already written a vindication of 
Christianity against the views contained in 
Strauss's * Life of Jesus.' In 1850 he 
adopted the German critical method of 
inquiry, and with Scherer and other theo- 
logians founded the Revue de Theologie, 
which at once created a stir among French 
Protestants, and led to the formation of the 
Nouvelle Ecole, or liberal party in that 
Church, of which party Colani became the 
acknowledged leader. He undertook a 
vigorous campaign against religious despot- 
ism, publishing at different times several 
important tracts, besides writing critical 
articles on eclecticism and the philosophy of 
Leibnitz, Kant, and Hegel. 

As a preacher he suffered much from the 
attacks of the orthodox French Protestants. 
In 1864 he was appointed to the Chair of 
Theology at Strassburg ; but after the war of 
1870 he removed to Paris and devoted 
himself to literary pursuits, becoming 
Librarian of the Sorbonne. His other works 
include some volumes of sermons, a review 
of Renan's ' Vie de Jesus,' and in particular 
his own ' Jesus Christ et les croyances 
messianiques de son temps.' His religious 
opinions underwent material change at 
different stages of his career. For details 
see the articles in Brockhaus and Larousse. 

N. W. HILL. 

Timothee Colani' s ' Exposition critique 
sur la philosophie de la religion de Kant ' 
was printed as his thesis in 1846. His first 
two sermons, which appeared in 1856, were 
" L' Individualism^ Chretien ' and ' Le Sacer- 
doce Universel.' The ' Premier et Deuxieme 
Recueil ' of sermons in French, mostly 
delivered at Strasburg (but some of them 
at Nimes), were printed in 1860 in 2 vols., 
a copy of which I have before me. They 
were translated, with the author's sanction, 
by A. V. Richard into German, and printed 
at Dresden, under the title ' Predigten in 



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Strassburg gehalten,' as well as his " Zwei 
Vortrage iiber das allgemeine Priestertum 
und die Protestantische Erziehung, aus dem 
Franzosischen nach der 2 Aufl. iibersetzt 
von Aug. Vicfc. Richard," Dresden, 1858. 

H. KREBS. 

See L. B. Phillips's 'Dictionary of Bio- 
graphical Reference.' EDWARD BENSLY. 

HENRY OF NAVARRE AND THE THREE- 
HANDLED CUP (US. ii. 408, 457). In the 
Suermondt Museum in Aachen are two 
specimens of Raeren pottery made before 
the birth of the Emperor Charles V. in 1500, 
or at any rate during his childhood. As 
both of these are three-handled, and as the 
Raeren usage of making cups, or rather jugs 
(Kriige), with three handles, is certainly 
older than the existing specimens of 
Steinzeug, it would seem that the story 
about Charles V. and the three-handled 
cup quoted by MR. HOWARD PEARSON from 
Mr. Solon's ' Art Stoneware ' is a popular 
attempt at explaining the origin of this 
peculiarity of the " Raerener Steinzeug." 
Steinzeug, for which there is no English word, 
is a kind of stoneware, but made of a much 
harder clay which cannot be melted. The 
two objects made of Steinzeug older than 
Charles V. are : 

1. A three-handled jug with bearded faces 
between each of the three handles. This 
Raeren jug is certainly not later than 1500. 
Its great age may be seen by its rough make 
and its awkward form. Besides the speci- 
men in the Aachen Museum, there is one 
exactly like it in the Cologne Museum, which 
may be seen in Otto von Falke's excellent 
book on * Das rheinische Steinzeug,' vol. ii. 
p. 4. 

2. A funnel-shaped brown cup with three 
small handles. There is another specimen 
of the same pattern in the Hetjens Collec- 
tion described in Falke's work, vol. ii. p. 5. 

In the Suermondt Museum are three other 
three-handled jugs, good specimens of Raeren 
pottery, but of later date than the two 
mentioned above. These jugs made of 
Steinzeug are : 1. Three-handled jug of the 
first half of the sixteenth century. 2. Three - 
handled jug of the second half of the six- 
teenth century. 3. Three-handled jug dated 
1596, with grey glazing. On it are the arms 
of Wilhelm von Nesselrode and of his wife 
Wilhelmine von Stadthagen. The family 
of Nesselrode is one of the oldest Rhenish 
families, and still exists. From the middle 
of the seventeenth century till the eighties 



of the nineteenth the Raeren potters pro- 
duced nothing of any value. 

Raeren (pronounced Raren, older form 
Roren) Was formerly in the Duchy of Lim- 
burg, and is now a village with about 4,000 
inhabitants in Rhenish Prussia. It consists 
of a lower and upper village, and lies between 
Aachen and Eupen, with both of which towns 
it is connected by an electric tramway. Here 
a peculiar kind of Low German is spoken, 
called " Raerener Platt," which is quite 
different from " Aachener Platt " or from 
" Eupener Platt." Although Raeren was 
formerly in the Duchy of Limburg, the 
" Raerener " have, partly for linguistic 
reasons, always looked upon themselves as 
Germans. The Raeren potters in order 
to make their wares more acceptable in the 
Low Countries, their chief customers, some- 
times used to put on their jugs Flemish in- 
scriptions, with which language they were 
not unacquainted. This fact led some 
writers to assume without warrant that 
the remaining inscriptions, which were in 
" Raerener Platt," were also Flemish. For 
this reason, and also because the first speci- 
mens of " Raerener Steinzeug " were sold in. 
the Low Countries, some writers have 
exaggerated the certainly very small Flemish 
influence in Raeren pottery and in Rhenish 
pottery as a whole, which also includes 
that of Cologne-Frechen, Siegburg, and 
Westerwald. H. G. WARD. 

Aachen. 

GORDONS AT WESTMINSTER SCHOOL (US. 
ii. 389, 437). ' The Clerical Guide ' for 
1829, printed for C. J. G. and F. Rivington, 
mentions four William Gordons, one of whom 
is in all probability the person G. F. R. B. is 
inquiring about. 

William Gordon, M.A. (No. 1), was the 
Prebendary of Offley's vicar in Lichfield 
Cathedral. 

No. 2 was appointed Rector of Spaxton, 
Somerset, in 1820, the patron of the living 
at that time being the Rev. Wm. Gordon. 

No. 3 was in 1789 appointed perpetual 
curate of Darlington by the Marquis of 
Cleveland. 

No. 4 became Rector of Speldhurst, Kent,, 
in 1816, the patron of the living being 
Robert Burgess, Esq. 

John Gordon was in 1825, according to 
The Clerical Guide ' for 1829, appointed 
to the Vicarage of Bierton, with Buckland 
Curacy and Stoke Mandeville Curacy, Bucks, 
by the Dean and Chapter of Lincoln ; and 
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St. John Baptist, Watling Street, London, 
by the Dean and Chapter of St. Paul's. 
According to Lipscomb's ' History of Bucks,' 
published in 1847, he held the Bucks livings 
for two years only, his successor Thomas 
Smith, B.D., being appointed Vicar of 
Bierton, &c., in 1827. It does not mention 
how the living became vacant. The infor- 
mation in ' The Clerical Guide ' for 1829 was 
evidently not brought well up to date, 
although in an advertisement at the begin- 
ning of the work, dated 23 March, 1829, the 
proprietors offer their best acknowledgments 
to the numerous gentlemen who have sup- 
plied them with information of the changes 
and alterations that had taken place since 
the publication of the second edition. 

L. EL CHAMBEBS. 
. Amersham. 

SIB WALTER RALEIGH AND TOBACCO 
(US. ii. 489). See Arber's reprint of King 
James I.'s ' Counterblaste to Tobacco ' 
(pp. 81-94), where the whole story of the 
introduction of tobacco into England is told. 

The earliest known authority for the 
Raleigh story is The British Apollo, in the 
43rd number of the first volume of which 
(published 7 July, 1708) it occurs. The 
story had previously been told of Tarleton 
and an anonymous Welshman. In their case 
the extinguisher employed was water in 
Raleigh's, ale. The British Mercury intro- 
duces the story by the statement that Raleigh 
was the first person who brought tobacco- 
smoking into use in England, which is not 
true. The probability is that, so far as he 
is concerned at any rate, the story is equally 
untrue. C. C. B. 

Small beer was the ingredient employed 
by Sir Walter Raleigh's servant to extinguish 
his master's apparently combustible ten- 
dencies. The story is said to have been a 
stock jest with Elizabethan and later dra- 
matists, and appears in various' guises. It is 
related in Adams's ' Elegant Anecdotes and 
Bons-Mots,' London, 1790, p. 113. 

W. SCOTT. 

* YOUNG FOLKS' (11 S. ii. 450, 511). 
It is extremely interesting bo find this publi- 
cation being so pleasantly recalled by many. 
I have a specially kindly recollection of it 
in respect that it was the first periodical 
that, as a small boy, I bought, in 1873, and 
continued to buy for some years. It was 
then the Young Folks Budget, and its 
special charm at that time lay in the ad- 
ventures of " Tim Pippin " and Princess 
Primrose, a story written by " Roland Quiz " 



(Richard Quittenton), illustrated with wood- 
cuts by John Proctor. The periodical is 
now very difficult to come by, for remark- 
ably few copies seem to have been preserved. 
Although I have tried to obtain it, I have 
been unsuccessful so far, and have had to be 
content with a reprint, which is different. 

R. L. Stevenson's connexion with the 
periodical was due to the late Alexander 
H. Japp, and has been set down once for all 
by Dr. Japp in his ' Robert Louis Stevenson : 
a Record, an Estimate, and a Memorial.' 
(The writing of the story is told by Steven- 
son himself in the section * My First Book,' in 
' Essays in the Art of Writing.') The story 
was written by Stevenson while he was 
resident at The Cottage, Braemar, in 1881. 
Japp visited him there, and carried off to 
London a portion of the manuscript of ' The 
Sea Cook ' (as the story was then named), 
and showed it to Henderson, proprietor of 
the Young Folks Budget not the Young 
Folks Paper, as Japp calls it, unless the 
name had been changed. 

The details of the matter are, of course, 
too weil known to call for further remark. 
It may not be so well known, however, that 
in June, 1910, a polished granite memorial 
slab was placed on The Cottage, Braemar, 
bearing the inscription : 

" Here K. L. Stevenson spent the summer of 
1881, and wrote ' Treasure Island,' his first great 
work." 

The credit of erecting this memorial of a 
character of which we have so few in this 
part of the country is due to the Braemar 
Mutual Improvement Association. The 
Cottage stands at the south end of what is 
known as Castleton Terrace, Braemar. 

G. M. FBASEB. 

Public Library, Aberdeen. 

Young Folks Paper, to give it its full name, 
continued to be published weekly till some 
time early in 1891, when it changed its 
appearance and name, and was continued 
under the title of Old and Young. Old and 
Young appeared till towards the end of 1896. 
The last number was dated either 24 or 31 
October in that year, its place being taken 
by Folks at Home, a paper which, under a 
different guise, contained most of the familiar 
features of Old and Young. Folks at 
Home died in the spring of 1897, and had no 
successor. G. L. APPEBSON. 

ITINEBANT TAILOBS (US. ii. 505). I well 
remember one. of these who, sixty odd years 
ago, came to " our house," mended up my 
father's clothes, made two or three " pairs 
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in Derby a couple of suits for him, taking 
to do it the best part of a week. We had 
him seated on a big table in the kitchen-place, 
and as he went on a good eye was kept on 
" the cabbage " he made, for it was an article 
of faith with all that the tailor "cabbaged" 
all that he possibly could. There was not a 
village which could support a tailor. 

It was different with the cobbler, one being 
able to do all that was needful in patching, 
soleing, and heeling, as well as making for 
a couple of villages. Women needed but 
little " in shoe and leather," for all rough 
work, indoor and outdoor, was done in 
pattens, which a handy cobbler made, all 
but tlie ring - irons fastened to the wooden 
sole, 

The itinerant tailor went to most of the 
farmhouses. The women folk helped each 
other to make their own clothes, but there 
was a dressmaker who cut out, and made 
bonnets. Most women made their own 
caps-. THOS. RATCLIFFE. 

WESTMINSTER CHIMES (11 S. ii. 509). The 
Westminster chimes are, subject to a more 
or less different arrangement of the notes, so 
much like many other chimes that it seems 
rather open to doubt whether they were in 
fact arranged to an ancient hymn-notation. 
The words attributed to them I have long 
understood to be 

Lord, through this hour 
Be thou our Guide. 
For by thy power 
No foot shall slide. 

D. O. 

' WALRUS AND THE CARPENTER ' PARODY : 
"SACKBUT" (11 S. ii. 469, 496). I may 
perhaps be permitted to record an anony- 
mous witticism recalled to me by the men- 
tion of the sackbut. 

When I was at Oxford ten years ago, the 
vogue of " ping-pong " was at its height, 
and in many a college room the game was 
kept up till far into the night, to the no 
small annoyance of those who desired either 
to sleep or to work. The nuisance became 
so pronounced that at length the Dean of a 
certain college affixed to the notice-board an 
intimation to the effect that " In future 
ping-pong will be considered as a piano, and 
is therefore prohibited after 11 P.M." (pianos 
were prohibited after that hour). The 
following day appeared beneath the official 
edict the following parody : "In future the 
buttery cat will be considered as a sackbut, 
is therefore prohibited at all hourV 

H. 4, B. 



KNOTS IN HANDKERCHIEFS : INDIAN CUS- 
TOM (US. ii. 506). This custom is supposed 
to have had its origin in the shoe-string 
(or boot-lace), corrigia, suspended from 
charters, in which the subscribing party 
made a knot. J. HOLD EN MACMICHAEL. 

CORPSE BLEEDING IN PRESENCE OF THE 

MURDERER (US. ii. 328, 390, 498). This 
superstition was not confined to the "vulgar." 
On 21 August, 1669, in a letter from Mr. 
Henshaw to Sir Robert Paston, there is the 
following item of news : 

" Monday I carried my wife and daughter to 
Greenwich to see the Granpois [grampus], 
which, though it was but a very little whale, is 
yet a very great fish ; the skin, like that of all 
Cetaceous animals, is like that of an eel's, and the 
flesh as white as a conger's ; the humours of his 
body, though he was dead, were in a brisk fer- 
mentation, and out of a hole where they struck 
the iron that killed him, there yested out blood 
and oil like barm out of a barrel of new ale. It 
put me in mind of some slain innocent which 
bleeds at the approach of his murderers ; but 
the stench was so uncouth that it was able to 
discompose my meditations." Hist. MSS. Com., 
Sixth Report, p. 367. 

The correspondent, Thomas Henshaw, 
was a barrister, and one of the first members 
of the Royal Society, and contributed several 
papers to the Philosophical Transactions ; 
he also edited Skinner's ' Etymologicon 
Linguae Anglicanse,' 1671. The recipient 
was likewise a member of the Royal Society, 
and considered " a person of great learning." 

A. RHODES. 

In John Timbs's book on * Predictions 
realized in Modern Times ' (London, 1880) 
is a note on ' Murder Wounds Bleeding 
Afresh ' (p. 58). Timbs quotes Dray ton's 
lines on this subject : 
If the vile actors of the heinous deed 
Near the dead body happily be brought, 
Oft 't hath been proved the breathless corpse will 
bleed. 

The popular belief existed in Scotland as 
late as 1668, and was referred to with 
approval by a Crown counsel, Sir George 
Mackenzie, in a speech made at the trial of 
Philip Standsfield. H. G. WARD. 

Aachen. 

ARTEPHIUS, * DE CHARACTERIBUS PLANE- 
TARUM ' (11 S. ii. 407). Is there any trust- 
worthy evidence that this book has ever 
been written or published ? The same 
author's ' Clavis Majoris Sapientiso ' ap- 
peared among the ' Opuscula qusedam 
Chemica ' at Frankfurt, 1614. Copies of 
this are in the British Museum and the Biblio- 
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The querist should try Messrs. Joseph Baer 
& Co., booksellers, Hochstrasse 6, Frankfurt 
a. M., who as a matter of course make 
Frankfurt prints a speciality. L. L. K. 

Watt mentions a number of books by 
Artephius, but the ' De Characteribus Plane- 
tarum ' does not appear among them. A 
single book by Artephius is included in the 
Edinburgh Advocates' Library. The cata- 
logue spells the name " Artefius." I am 
inclined to believe that no copy of * De 
Characteribus Planetarum ' can be found 
in this country. Perhaps Germany, in and 
around Frankfort, would be the most likely 
place to look for it. SCOTUS. 

ELEPHANT AND CASTLE IN HERALDRY 
(11 S. i. 608; ii. 36, 115, 231, 353, 398). 
In ' La France Metallique,' by Jacques 
de Bie, Paris, 1634, the elephant occurs once, 
namely, on the reverse of a medal of Henri 
III. dated 1575 (plate 74). The motto is 
" Placidis parcit." According to the * Ex- 
plication,' p. 220, the elephant, passing 
through the fields, where are some sheep, 
turns up his trunk, to show that he has no 
intention of hurting them, while he treads on 
a serpent, which appears to have glided 
under his belly to hurt him. The interpreta- 
tion is the clemency of the king towards 
his dutiful subjects, and his severity towards 
those who rebel against his commands. The 
elephant has no castle or any trappings 
whatever. 

Mrs. Bury Palliser in her ' Historic Devices, 
Badges, and War-Cries,' 1870, gives the 
elephant as the device of the Caracciolo 
family of Naples ; of the Malatesta family ; of 
Rodolph, Duke of Swabia (motto " Vi parva 
non invertitur " ) ; the elephant adoring the 
moon, of Caracciolo, Marquis of Vico (motto 
" Numen regemque salutant "} ; of Camillo 
Caula, a captain of Modena (motto " Pietas 
Deo nos conciliat"); of Giustiniani Salim- 
bene (motto "Sic ardua peto ") ; the 
elephant and broken tree, of Gio. Batt. 
Giustiniani, Cardinal of Venice (motto 
" Dum stetit ") ; the elephant and dragon, 
of Sinibaldo and Ottoboni Fieschi (motto 
" Non vos alabareis," Spanish, " You will 
not exult over us " see p. 103) ; the 
elephant crushing flies, of Sisenando, King 
of the Goths (motto " Al mejor que puedo ") ; 
the elephant throwing his teeth to the 
hunters, of Count Clement Pietra (motto 
" Lasciai di me la miglior parte a dietro ") ; 
the elephant walking through a flock of 
sheep, of PhiUbert Emmanuel, Duke of 



Savoy (motto " Infestus infestis"). See 
Index, p. 421, and the pages referred to. 

As to the Malatesta family Mrs. Palliser 
says (p. 159) : 

" The sovereign lords of Rimini and of a great 
part of Romagna had for their device an elephant, 
allusive, perhaps, to the bones of Hannibal's 
elephants, said to have been found at the Forli 
pass, near Fossombrone and Fano, of which they 
were lords." 

She speaks of an elephant, not an ele- 
phant's head. In no instance does she 
mention a castle on the elephant. 

ROBERT PIERPOINT. 

As a symbol this subject appears to extend 
back well over three centuries or more. 
In ' Hycke-Scorner,' a black-letter morality 
of the earlier part of the sixteenth century, 
is a quaint woodcut of an elephant bearing 
a square turreted tower or castle. David 
Garrick's copy of this old morality was 
reprinted by Thomas Hawkins in his ' Origin 
of the English Drama,' 1773. 3 vols., and the 
illustration may be seen facing p. 72 in 
vol. i. The animal is depicted without 
harness or trappings. WM. JAGGARD. 

PUNS ON PAYNE (US. ii. 409, 453). The 
following lines written by Hugh Holland, 
whose mother was a Payne, may interest 
the querist if they are not already familiar 
to him : 

Yet griefe is by the surer side my brother, 
The child of Payne, and Payne was eke my mother, 
Who children had, the Ark had men as many ; 
Of which, myself except, now breathes not any ! 

G. F. R. B. 

THE BROWN SEX (11 S. ii. 505). The 
quotation from M. G. Lewis's ' Negro Life 
in the West Indies ' (London, 1845 edition, 
p. 25) is as follows : 

" It seems that, many years ago, an Admiral 
of the Red was superseded on the Jamaica 
station by an Admiral of the Blue ; and both of 
them gave balls at Kingston to the ' Brown 
Girls ' ; for the fair sex elsewhere are called the 
' Brown Girls ' in Jamaica." 

Elsewhere in Lewis's ' Journal ' " brown 
girl " is used in the ordinary sense of the 
term ; cp. " This morning a little brown 
girl made her appearance at breakfast, with 
an orange bough, to flap away the flies '" 
(b., p. 31). 

Lewis's ' Journal ' (12 December, 1815, 
p. 12) contains an interesting reference to 
' Werthers Leiden,' showing that the English 
translations were read as late as 1815 : 

" Little Jem Parsons [the cabin-boy] and his 
friend the black terrier came on deck, and sat 
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light of the moon. I looked at the boy's book 
(the terrier, I suppose, read over the other's 
shoulder), and found that it was ' The Sorrows 
of Werter.' I asked him who had lent him such 
a book and whether it amused him ? He said 
that it had been made a present to him, and so he 
had read it almost through, for he had got to 
Werter's dying ; though to be sure he did not 
understand it all, nor like very much what he 
understood ; for he thought the man a great 
fool for killing himself for love. I told him I 
thought every man a great fool who killed him- 
self for love or for anything else ; but had he 
no other books but ' The Sorrows of Werter. ' 
O, dear yes, he said, he had a great many more." 

H. G. WARD. 
Aachen. 

FOBES'S MUSICAL ENVELOPE (11 S. ii. 508). 
There is a series of Fores' s Comic Envelopes 
in the Guildhall Library. There are nine 
varieties : Courting, Musical, Dancing, 
Racing, Shooting, Civic, Military, Christmas, 
and Coaching. W. B. GEBISH. 

BOHEMIAN MUSICAL FOLK-LOBE (11 S. 
ii. 485). Tripping over a stone indicates in 
Hungary the site of buried treasure or lost 
property. L. L. K. 

ALFIEBI IN ENGLAND (US. ii. 421, 532). 
May I add to my reply that the dates given 
in the ' Vita ' clearly show that the November 
when Alfieri left the Hague for England was 
in 1770. He left Turin in May, 1769. In the 
summer he was in Vienna ; at Berlin until 
November ; at Copenhagen in the winter. 
At the end of March he went to Stock- 
holm, in May to Petersburg, and thence to 
Berlin. He was at Spa in August and 
September, and from there went to the 
Hague. 

" Finer," in 1. 4 of the second paragraph 
of my reply, should be finir. 

J. F. ROTTON. 
Godalming. 

LADY CONYNGHAM (11 S. ii. 508). This 
lady is never named in the decorous pages of 
standard English histories. Even her 
husband the Marquis secures but the 
briefest notice, although his midnight ride 
to acquaint the late Queen Victoria with her 
accession to the throne surely deserved 
for him a better fate. Details of his wife's 
career will need to be looked for in the 
newspapers of the period or in the gossipy 
memoirs of social life published within the 
last few years. If I may be pardoned for 
naming works probably familiar, I would 
venture to mention the first three volumes of 
the ' Greville Journal ' ; Mrs. W. P. Byrne's 
* Gossip of the Century,' Ward & Downey, 



1892 ; Mary Frampton's ' Journal,' Sampson 
Low, 1885 ; and Jekyll's ' Correspondence,' 
edited by Bourke, Murray, 1894. 

W. S. S. 

BISHOP MICHAEL H. T. LUSCOMBE (US. 
ii. 349, 456). Since the reply at the latter 
reference I have seen a portrait of Bishop 
Luscombe. It is in the possession of the 
Rev. E. Killin Roberts, Rector of St. 
Andrew, Hertford, of which parish Lus- 
combe was formerly curate. I feel sure 
that MB. CANN HUGHES will obtain further 
information if he will communicate with 
Mr. Roberts. HENBY T. POLLABD. 

Hertford. 

"YOBKEB" (11 S. ii. 505). With all 
respect, I venture to differ from PBOF. 
SKEAT'S derivation of this word. I doubt 
if the prolific crop of new words referring to 
sport follows any scientific or known rules of 
philology. If they do, the derivation of 
" yorker " from yarker, "jerk," would 
certainly be at fault. In the first place, a 
jerk is expressly forbidden by the rules of 
cricket : "A ball must be bowled. If 
thrown or jerked, the umpire shall call 
' no ball.' ' No cricketer could therefore 
have applied the term " yarker " to a fairly 
bowled ball. 

A " yorker " is a ball which pitches close 
to the bat and passes underneath it, the 
batsman mistaking it for either a half- 
volley or a full pitch, and consequently 
failing to come down upon it. Till the sixties 
of the last century it was called a "tice," 
because it enticed a batsman to hit when he 
should not do so. In the sixties the word 
" yorker " was introduced, and the ball in 
question is now known by no other name. 
The permission and development of over- 
arm bowling may have had some influence 
on the cultivation of this most useful ball ; 
in any case, there seems no reason to doubt 
that its frequent use by a Yorkshire eleven 
gave it its present, name. 

The word undoubtedly came into vogue as a 
noun : the verb " to york " was introduced 
a good deal later. JOHN MUBBAY. 

50, Albemarle Street. W. 

Is there not some mistake in PBOF. SKEAT'S 
note ? I am no authority on cricket, but 
I know what a jerk is, and I am sure that 
neither jerking nor throwing the ball has 
ever been allowed. Londoner, Hollander, 
and in German Schweitzer are well known, 
and not derived from verbs. " Burgher," 
"crowder," "butcher," "hosier," "pot- 
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" horner," " coroner," " tinker," seem ex- 
amples of common words ending in -er, 
yet not derived from verbs. A saddler does 
not saddle horses, but makes saddles. Slang 
words e.g., a " wonner," " a goner," " a 
Peeler " seem to show that similar words 
are still in process of formation. 

T. WILSON. 
Harpenden. 

The labourers hereabouts refer to the 
straps which they generally wear outside 
their trousers, below the knee, as " Yorks." 
No one locally can give the reason for this 
name. JOHN T. PAGE. 

Long Itchington, Warwickshire. 

VISCOUNT OSSINGTON (11 S. ii. 508). 
If MB. T. H. MILLER will refer to the collected 
volumes of Once a Week, he will find in the 
number for February, 1872, a cartoon of 
Viscount Ossington, entitled ' Mr. Speaker ' 
full length, in wig and robes, and wearing a 
cocked hat. The portrait is understood 
to have been an excellent likeness, and might 
perhaps supply the lack of a photograph. 

W. SCOTT. 

"TENEDISH" (11 S. ii. 286, 354, 493). 
In reply to SIR JAMES MURRAY'S query, 
Mr. HODGKIN proposes (11 S. ii. 354) to 
regard the first syllable as Du. " tenne, tin," 
and shows by a quotation (1569) that such 
vessels were made of tin. I think this is 
probably the right route. The definition of 
tenedish (1688) as " a piece of Lead made like 
a Muscle shell, in which the black is kept 
moist to work withal," rather suggests a 
standish, e.g. " atramentarium, an Ink-horn 
or Standish, or thing to keep black colour in " 
(Gouldman, 1669). Standish, traditionally 
derived from " stand-dish," is quoted by 
Prof. Skeat for 1557. It seems to have been 
a common word in the seventeenth century 
(Florio, scrittoio ; Cotgrave, cabinet ; Holy- 
oak, atramentarium, &c.), and 'to have been 
popularly associated with stand (cf. ink- 
stand) and dish. I do not think it has any 
necessary connexion with either. It appears 
to have been the metal table inkpot which 
replaced the older portable inkhorn. Miege 
(1679) has "standish, un grand 6critoire, 
comme ceux qui sont faits d' Stain." Now 
O.F. estain could have given M.E. *stain, 
*sten, and, if introduced a second time after 
the disappearance of the -s-, *tain or *ten. 
The aphetic form tain, used of the tinfoil 
applied to the back of a mirror, has passed 
into E. (see ' N.E.D.,' s.v. tain). It seems 
possible that standish may be for *staindish, 
***tendish, influenced by stand, and that 



tenedish is a later doublet. Or the stan and 
tene may be cognate words which have 
arrived by different routes (cf. stank and 
tank). I do not know whether there has 
ever been an E. *stan, " tin," but L. stan- 
num is represented in some of the Celtic 
languages (see Skeat, s.v. tin). 

The second element may be dish? though 
the E. liking for the ending -ish (e.g., squeam- 
ish for older squeamous, rubbisA. for older 
robots) and the vagaries of popular ety- 
mology make it unlikely. I should guess- 
that both words may be due to some O.F. 
phrase such as " vase (or escritoire) en 
estain doux" Cotgrave has " estaim doux, 
the best kind of Tynne ; gotten in Corn- 
wall." The naming of an object from the 
metal of which it is composed is common, 
e.g., a brass, a copper, a pewter, a tin. 

ERNEST W^EEKLEY. 



The Romance of Bookselling: a History front the 
Earliest Titles to the Twentieth Century. By 
Frank A. Mumby. (Chapman & Hall. ) 

TRAVELLERS in the bypaths of literature will 
remember the incident recorded in ' Le Paradis des 
Gens de Lettres,' in which the writer is led by 
his celestial guide to the house from which the 
one-eyed publisher distributed with lavish hands 
twenty-pound notes as payment for a sheet of 
sixteen printed pages to the crowd of happy 
authors who thronged the garden of his mansion. 
By these generous gifts the publisher felt himself 
purged and absolved from any sin against the 
Light, and in this excellent volume Mr, Mumby 
has traced the steps which have led to this desir- 
able rapprochement between writer and publisher, 
and the means by which the dream of Asselineau 
has nearly approached fulfilment. 

It may be safely said that in the commercial 
world there is no class that merits more highly the 
confidence of the public than that which is 
engaged in the production of books. The pro- 
duction of books is necessarily allied with the 
production of literature, and in considering the 
history of bookselling, it is pleasant to recall the 
satisfactory relations that have usually existed 
between publisher and author. Pope may have 
occasionally satirized a bookseller, but his associa- 
tion with Lintot is entirely to the credit of both 
parties. Johnson corrected Osborne with a 
knock-down blow, but towards no one had he 
friendlier feelings than towards poor Tom Davies 
or that nonpareil of publishers, Robert Dodsley, 
In later times the name of Murray is inseparably 
woven with that of Byron ; and if the confidence 
which Scott tplaced in Constable and Ballantyne 
had unfortunate results, it was based upon the 
friendship that existed between them. In 
reading such a book as Mr. Muniby's, one's pre- 
dominant feeling is that if the bookseller has not 
exactly created a Paradise, he has done much 
to shed sunshine on the often dreary life of the 
professional author. 



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In this fact perhaps lies the romance which Mr. 
Mumby finds in the history of " the Trade." 
If we refer to the great dictionary which ought 
to lie at the elbow of every literary man, we find 
that " romantic " connotes something in the way 
of chivalry and adventure. Chivalry may 
pertain more to the man than the bookseller, but 
the spirit of adventure cannot be wanting in those 
who daily launch their barks upon unknown seas. 
A really good history of these venturesome heroes 
has long been a desideratum, and Mr. Mumby 
within his limits has in a very meritorious manner 
attempted to fill the void. He would, however, have 
done better to call his book a ' History of Pub- 
lishing in England,' for beyond a general sketch of 
what he terms the " Beginnings of the Book 
World," the contents of the volume are almost 
wholly confined to an account of the London 
book-trade. The retail bookseller, to whom 
literature owes so much, is only seen dimly in the 
background ; and of the many eminent London 
and provincial representatives of that branch of 
the trade, only Mr. Quaritch and Messrs. Sotheran 
appear to be mentioned by name, and that per- 
haps more by virtue of their having published 
various works than in recognition of their high 
distinction as purveyors of ancient and modern 
learning. 

To deal with all branches of the'trade would be 
impossible in a book of reasonable size, but we 
feel some regret in finding no description of a very 
interesting offshoot from the parent trunk. One 
or two short sketches of the chapbook trade have 
been written, but the subject has never been 
thoroughly explored, though during the eigh- 
teenth century the only providers of literature 
in the remoter hamlets of the country were the 
" Walking " or " Travelling Stationers," who 
carried their wares from the printing presses in 
Aldermary Churchyard or Bow Churchyard, 
whence on one fine afternoon Boswell, who had 
been fired with the ambition of writing a story in 
the style of Jack the Giantkiller, carried off the 
splendid collection of chapbooks which is now 
housed in the Library of Harvard University. 
It is to these humble benefactors, and to their 
successors, such as Drewry of Derby and Dicey of 
Northampton, that we owe the preservation of the 
old Elizabethan legends, such as Tom Thumb and 
Tom Hickathrift, Jack Homer and Long Meg of 
Westminster, and they would seem to merit a 
slight niche in the memorial which is perhaps too 
much devoted to the aristocrats of the Trade. 

This, after all, is a minor matter, and it gives 
us pleasure to testify to the general value of the 
book, the wide range of information that it con 
veys, and the agreeable manner in which it is 
written. The few slips we have noticed are un- 
important. In referring to Swinburne's ' Atalanta 
in Calydon ' it might have been stated that though 
the title-pages of the first two editions are identical, 
the earlier is in quarto and the later in foolscap 
octavo, so that there is no possibility of confusion 
between the two. Moxon did not publish ' The 
Statue and the Bust ' and, it may be added, 
' Cleon ' till 1855, though, from Mr. Mumby's 
language on p. 304, it might be inferred that 
Browning's connexion with that publisher ceased 
on Messrs. Chapman & Hall issuing ' Christmas- 
Eve and Easter-Day ' in 1850 (there was then no 
question of a " collected edition " of Browning's 
works). 



A ' Bibliography of Publishing and Book- 
selling ' by Mr. W. H. Peet, reprinted, with addi- 
tions, from these columns, forms an Appendix to 
bhe book. This is excellent as far as it goes, but it 
oes only a very short distance. Foreign works on 
the subject are not included. ' Book-Prices Current ' 
finds a place, but not ' Book-Auction Records,' 
which often contains biographical and other- 
contributions on bookselling and booksellers. Big- 
more and Wyman's ' Bibliography of Printing,* 
though incidentally mentioned on p. 460, should 
have been inserted in the body of the work, as 
it contains hundreds of references to the book- 
producing trade, and also a capital biography 
of the late Bernard Quaritch, with an engraved 
portrait representing him as he was known to his 
friends and customers in the seventies and eighties 
Smith's ' Obituary ' (see p. 464) was not re- 
printed in Willis's Current Notes for February* 
1853 : there is only a short notice of the book* 
with a few extracts relating to booksellers and 
stationers. The Bibliography needs some revision,, 
and we trust that Mr. Peet will devote himself to 
its republication in a fuller and more eclectic f orm.. 

IN The National Review for January ' Episodes 
of the Month ' and ' Two Elections and a Moral * 
by Politicus deal frankly with the position of the 
Unionist party, the election which was recently 
concluded, and the results attained. It is 
not surprising to find that Mr. Balfour's introduc- 
tion of the Referendum at the last moment 
before the conflict began is described as a " painful 
blunder," and it is further stated that " under 
Mr. Balfour there is little or no hope of the- 
Unionist party regaining its influence in the 
State," as he is out of touch with the " man in the 
street." In 'Sea Law made in Germany* Miv 
H. W. Wilson considers Mr. T. G. Bowles's, 
recently published ' Sea Law and Sea Power,' 
and the official answers to its indictments. A 
main point in the discussion concerns British 
food-supplies in time of war, a subject of the 
gravest importance. Dr. Elizabeth Chesser says 
many things about ' The Health of the Nation ' 
which are doubtless true, but the- practical appli- 
cation of s\ich regulations as she suggests is the 
difficulty. Having given in the last number of 
the Revieiv a speech by Mr. Bonar Law, the editor 
now publishes one by Mr. Lloyd George delivered 
at the Paragon Music-Hall, Mile End, on 21 Nov. 
An account of the Portuguese Revolution follows, 
being regarded as ' Lloyd-Georgeism in Practice/ 
Most of the heroes of that outbreak are denounced 
as poltroons, and bribery and place-hunting are 
rampant. While it is not difficult to see the 
failures and ludicrous aspects of the Revolution, 
a view of the previous regime and its disastrous 
incompetence might be useful to give us a fair 
idea of the possibilities of the country and temper 
of the people. Lady Helen Graham's ' Impres- 
sions of Ober-Ammergau in 1910 ' form a pleasant 
but not very significant study in a sentimental 
vein. 

Mr. J. Arthur Hill's article on ' Christian 
Science ' should be read for its facts concerning 
Mrs. Eddy, but we do not like its tone. In 
' American Affairs ' Mr. A. Maurice Low tells us 
that a third term of Presidency for Mr. Roosevelt 
is now considered impossible ; and Aga Khan 
writes in a complimentary style concerning 
' Lord Minto's Viceroyalty.' 



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BOOKSELLERS' CATALOGUES. JANUARY. 

MR. FRANCIS EDWARDS'S Catalogue 306 contains 
under America ' Biologia Centrali -Americana,' 
edited by Godman and Salvin, section Archaeology 
by Maudsley, consisting of 1 vol. text, royal 4to, 
sewed, and 16 vols. of plates, oblong folio, boards, 
1889-1902, 24Z. Under ' Arabian Nights ' is 
Burton's edition, Benares, 1885-8, 16 vols., 281. 
Under Art and Architecture are a few books from 
the library of an architect. Under Blake are a 
series of facsimiles, folio, half-morocco, 1876, 
51. 5s. (one of a hundred copies for private circula- 
tion) ; also Gilchrist's Life, plates on India paper, 
2 vols., 1880, 31. 5s. Under Books is Sotheby's 
* Principia Typographical 3 vols., imperial 4 to, 
1858, 81. 10s. Under Bronte is the Rev. Patrick 
Bronte's ' Cottage Poems,' 1811, 7s. Qd. There 
are works under Charles I., Civil War, and Common- 
wealth. Under John Curtis is the author's own 
copy of his ' British Entomology,' with the com- 
plete series of the 770 original water-colour draw- 
ings, 105?. Publications of the Kelmscott Press 
inelude Swinburne's ' Atalanta ' and Morris's 
' Golden Legend.' Among works on London 
will be found Rocque's Plan, 1746, 51. 5s. ; 
Wheatley's ' London, Past and Present,' extended 
to 6 vols., half -morocco, 1891, 16Z. ; and Wilkin- 
son's ' Londina Illustrata,' large paper, an early 
And clean copy, 2 vols., folio, half -morocco, 1819, 
11. 10s. Books on Napoleon include the first 
edition of Combe, 1815, 12Z. ; and Ireland's Life, 
"with series of folding and other coloured plates 
by Cruikshank, 4 vols., full red levant, 1828, 351. 
Other items are Newman's Works, 33 vols., half- 
morocco, 1875-88, 61. 15s. ; and a good tall 
copy of the first edition of the Nuremberg Chro- 
nicle, old French morocco, the first pages slightly 
-wormed, containing the supplement De Samarcia, 
but only two blank leaves, 1493, 25Z. ; under 
Spenser is the first folio edition, 1611-13, title 
mounted, 51. 15s. 

Mr. Charles J. Sawyer's Catalogue of New 
Books at Half-Prices contains ' Don Quixote,' 
"Shelton's translation, with the 260 plates specially 
drawn for this edition by Daniel Vierge, 4 hand- 
some vols., 1907, 51. 5s. (edition limited to 155 
copies, and published at 151. net). There are 
many works suitable for presentation, including 
illustrated books such as ' The Three Musque- 
teers,' with 250 pictures by Leloir, 2 vols., imperial 
8vo, 11. 10s. ; and ' The Bible in Art,' 2 vols., 
15s. Qd. Other works are ' Religious Systems 
of the World,' 4s. Qd. ; Graetz's ' History'of the 
Jews,' 5 vols., 11. 15s. ; and Gibbs's ' Men and 
"Women of the French Revolution/ 28 full-page 
portraits, 4to, 17s. 6d. There are also works of 
travel, biographies, and volumes in all classes of 
literature. 

Messrs. Henry Sotheran & Co.'s Price Current 
710 contains a complete set of Ackermann's 
Repository, 40 vols., royal 8vo, half-russia, 1809- 
1828, very scarce, 65Z. Under Ainsworth is the 
large-type Library Edition, 16 vols., half-morocco, 
'81. 15s. There are works under Aldine Press, 
Alp-Lore, and America. There is a complete 
set of ' The Annual Register,' tree calf extra. 
Under Matthew Arnold is the Edition de Luxe, 
15 vols., half-levant by Riviere, 1903-4, 211. 
Under Bacon are Spedding's edition, 14 vols., 
new calf, 121. 12s. ; and Pickering's edition, 



edited by Basil Montagu, 17 vols., new morocco, 
1825, 22Z. 10s. There is a fine specimen of 
binding from the library of Henry VIII. Under 
Browning are first editions. Carlyle items include 
the Centenary Edition. Under Chaucer is the 
Clarendon Press edition ; and under China is 
Brinkley's ' Japan and China,' Library Edition, 
limited to 500 copies, 12 vols., half orange levant, 
1903-4, 18Z. 18s. There is a fine collection of 
coaching books, 20 vols., red levant by Riviere, 
1882-1905, 58Z. 10*. A long list under Dickens 
includes numerous first editions. Among many 
handsome sets are the works of. George Eliot, 
Edward FitzGerald, J. R. Green, Ben Jonson, 
Jesse, &c. The Catalogue also contains three 
rare copies of Chapman's ' Homer ' ; a number of 
works under India ; and a fine original set of 
Punch, with all the wrappers and advertisements, 
1841-1908, 135 vols., new half-morocco, 125L 
Under Shakespeare are copies of the Second and 
Third Folios. 

Mr. Albert Sutton's Manchester Catalogue 184 
contains first and early editions of Harrison Ains- 
worth ; also the Windsor Edition, 20 vols., 1901, 
4Z. 4s. Under Blake is the Life by Gilchrist, 
2 vols., 1880, 21. 10s. There is the first edition of 
* The Zincali,' and the second of ' The Bible in 
Spain.' The first edition of Brome's ' Horace,' 
morocco, 1666, is 4/. Under Coleridge is Cottle's 
' Recollections,' 2 vols., 1837, 12s. ; under 
Thomas Hardy, first editions of ' Tess ' and ' The 
Trumpet-Major ' ; under Lever, a collection of 
first editions, 10 vols., uniform half-calf, 1839-65, 
11. Is. ; under Marryat, first editions of ' Poor 
Jack ' and * The Pirate ; and under Punch a set 
of the original issue. There are some first editions 
of Thackeray, and the Library Edition, 22 vols., 
half -morocco, 1869, 11. 15s. The Satirist, or 
Monthly Meteor. 1808-12 (wanting vol. vi., &c.), is 
21. 2*. 

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to 



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notices : 

Editorial communications should be addressed 
to "The Editor of 'Notes and Queries '"Adver- 
tisements and Business Letters to " The Pub- 
lishers " at the Office, Bream's Buildings, Chancery 
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To secure insertion of communications corre- 
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munication " Duplicate." 

P. F. STEPHENSON (" Pickwick : Through the 
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W. S. S. ("Peacock's Works "). Forwarded to 
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LONDON, SATURDAY, JANUARY 21, 1911. 



CONTENTS.-No. 56. 

NOTES : Stained Glass in Essex Churches, 41 The 
" Bow- Wow" Style, 42 Prince of Monaco's Memoir, 43 
Edward Chaplin Anna Seward's Baptism Sybil, Queen 
of Scotland, 44- Geoffrey Pole " Carpet-bagger," 45 
" Musice mentis medicina maestse " Benjamin Bathurst 
Second Earl Spencer's Death Wedgewood Ware and 
Water-Carriage, 46 Alnwick : Walking through a Bog, 47. 

QUERIES : Bismarck, Miss Russel, and Miss Loraine 
Prior's Birthplace Thackeray's Last Words Bowles's 
'Hundred of Penwith'- Songs of the Peasantry, 47-' A 
Voice from the Bush 'American Words and Phrases 
'The Flying Dutchman' Authors Wanted Hartley 
Wintney, Hants, 48 Andrew Lang on the Odyssey 
Phips Family London Gunsmiths, 49. 

REPLIES : Speaker's Chair Gamnecourt : Barbara de 
Bierle, 50" Love me, love my dog," 51 Dr. Johnson in 
the Hunting Field, 52 Wet Hay Sir Lyonell Guest- 
Archbishop Cleaver W. Fitzgerald Rogerson Cotter- 
John Coston Nottingham Monastery not in Dugdale, 53 
Defoe Methodist Chapel, Tooting Rev. F. W. Faber 
Napoleon and the Little Red Man Count of the Holy 
Roman Empire, 54 Eminent Librarians Pauper's Badge 
C. F. Henningsen and Kossuth " Keep within Com- 
pass," 55" Old Cock o' Wax " Leake Family' Tit for 
Tat '" Winchester Quart "Moving Pictures to Cine- 
matographs, 56 Corn and Dishonesty R's of Sailors 
Authors Wanted Inscriptions in Churchyards, 57" God 
moves in a mysterious way " ' Pilgrim's Progress ' 
Imitated Isola Family" Caeqehouias," 58. 

NOTES ON BOOKS : ' Walks about Jerusalem.' 
Booksellers' Catalogues. 
OBITUARY : Nicolas Mory. 
Notices to Correspondents. 



STAINED AND PAINTED GLASS IN 
ESSEX CHURCHES. 
(See 11 S. ii. 361, 462.) 
I NOW propose to deal with 

THE LIBERTY OF HAVERING. 

Havering - atte - Bower (St. John Evan- 
gelist). None. 

Hornchurch (St. Andrew). The E. window 
of the N. aisle is filled with fragmentary 
old glass. In the centre is a Crucifixion, 
much mutilated. The upper part of the 
cross, and the arms, shoulders, and chest 
of the figure, are intact, but the head and 
neck and legs have gone. Where the head 
and neck were has been leaded a head of 
'St. Mary Magdalen, taken, no doubt, from 
the lower part of the cross ; while fragments 
of different kinds have been put in to fill the 
place of the legs. The effect is grotesque. 
Portions of the figure are distinguishable 
Among fragments of tabernacle work leaded 
together, in hopeless confusion, in different 
parts of the window, and it seems possible 



that a careful study of the fragments might 
enable one to reconstruct partially the cross 
and figure. 

On either side of the Crucifixion is a coat 
of arms in a circular border, both sadly 
mutilated ; while in the tracery is a half- 
length figure of St. Edward, King and Con- 
fessor, in grissille, with the left hand raised, 
probably (but the hand is much faded) 
holding up the ring which he gave to St. 
John when the Evangelist, in beggar's 
guise, asked of him alms as he was assisting 
at the dedication of St. John's Church at 
Havering. 

XL. St. Edward, K. and C. 

XLL, XLIL, XLIII. Fragments in 
tracery. 

XLIV. Side fillings of tracery lights. 

XLV. Arms in dexter main light : Arg., 
a fesse dancettee between 8 billets sa. 

XL VI. Crucifixion in central main light. 

XL VII. Arms in sinister main light : 
Parted per pale. Dexter, probably as in 
XLV., but, as the shield now stands, its 
dexter half consists of fragments of a fesse 
dancettee and two billets sa., some old 
pieces of tabernacle work, and a fragment, 
apparently, from another lost shield, chequee 
or and sa. Sinister, also much mutilated, 
but it clearly was originally Sa., a chevron 
or between 3 garbs arg. 

Romford (St. Edward, C.). None. 

A correspondent has kindly called my 
attention to an error at 1 1 S. ii. 361. Happily, 
Little Ilford Church is not without some 
remains of old glass ; for the eastern of two 
small circular eighteenth-century windows 
in the Lethieullier Chapel is filled with 
fragments of considerable interest (No. I* 
in my collection of drawings). 

When I visited the church, the Lethieullier 
Chapel, which is used as a vestry, was locked, 
and I was unfortunately content with a 
sight of its windows from the outside. The 
leadwork being modern, I, incautiously, con- 
cluded that the glass, too, was of a similar 
character. 

In the centre of the window to which I 
have referred is a shield showing the arms of 
England (ancient), viz., Quarterly, 1st and 
4th, France (ancient) ; 2nd and 3rd, Eng- 
land. Above the shield are remains of a 
small 16th-century painting, in brown 
enamel heightened with yellow stain, on 
a single sheet of glass, of the taking down 
of Our Lord from the cross. The drawing 
of this little picture is remarkably delicate, 
and it bears, in style and treatment, a strik- 



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ing resemblance to the medallion in Great 
Ilford Hospital Church referred to on p. 362 
as I h . Below the shield is what has been an 
oval piece of glass, but which, having been 
broken, is now in several pieces leaded 
together, whereon are the scarcely dis- 
cernible remains of a coat of arms, the 
blazon of which seems to read, Azure, on 
a chevron arg. 3 white roses, seeded and 
barbed ppr. between 3 garbs (perhaps fleurs- 
de-lis) or. Crest, a seated, or three-quarter, 
human figure or. Motto, "... .the truthe." 
A noticeable fact about this painting is that 
the brown outline and all the colours, except 
the yellow stain, have perished to such a 
degree that the design can only with diffi- 
culty be made out, and I am inclined to 
think that it is an example of 16th- or 17th- 
century varnish painting on glass, so far as 
the pigments other than the yellow stain, 
which is bright and clear, are concerned. 

On the dexter side of the central shield 
is the red rose of Lancaster, barbed ppr., 
with the white rose of York, seeded ppr., 
in pretence. Small fragments of a blue- 
and-yellow chaplet remain round the roses, 
while above the chaplet is a royal crown of 
four half-arches, with crosses patee and 
fleurs-de-lis on the circlet and a ball and 
cross on the top. On the sinister side of the 
shield is a red rose, seeded and barbed ppr., 
with blue-and-yellow chaplet, almost com- 
plete, encircling it, and above, a royal crown 
similar to, but larger, bolder in design, and 
with higher arches than, that over the other 
roses. 

All these compositions are set in fragments 
of 15th-century rectangular quarries and 
16th- and 17th-century heraldic mantling 
and scrollwork. Among these are pieces of 
a third royal crown, which perhaps formerly 
ensigned the arms of England. There are 
also fragments of quarries with the " crown 
in the thorn bush " badge of Henry VII. 
and his initials H.R. It may be surmised 
that the three principal features of this 
" jumble " window the royal arms and the 
roses were formerly set in quarries showing 
this badge. 

On another quarry is a heron, which may 
point to the existence, once on a time, in 
Little Ilford Church, of a window' set up by, 
or having some reference to, a member of 
the Heron family, which possessed the 
Manor of Aldersbrook in this parish in the 
days of Henry VIII. Aldersbrook had 
belonged to the Cistercian Abbey of Stratford 
Langthorne, and was granted by Henry to 
Sir John Heron, Master of his jewel house. 
The probability of a Heron window in the 



church is also strengthened by the fact 
that a brass to Thomas, son and heir to this- 
Sir John Heron, is on the north wall. The 
inscription below the figure, which is that of 
a youth in civilian dress, states that Thomas 
died in 1517, aged 14. 

I am much indebted to L. M. R. for his 
suggestions at 11 S. ii. 464. On the whole, 
of the two solutions which he suggests, I 
incline to that of Joab slaying Amasa. The 
foreground of the painting is open country 
trees, undergrowth, and broken ground 
very well answering to the description in 
2 Sam. xx. of the place where Amasa' s murder 
took place, but not so suggestive of the scene 
of Joab's slaying of Abner, " the middle of 
the gate " of Hebron. The treacherous 
slayer, too, in the picture is dressed after the 
manner mentioned in verse 8, and promin- 
ence is given to his sword scabbard, as in the 
Biblical account. On the other hand, it 
must be admitted that the murderer holds his 
sword (the blade of which is buried in his 
victim's right side) in his own right hand, 
and he is taking the older man's chin with 
his left hand. These slight differences, 
however, may be merely the effect of the 
artist's liberties with his subject. 

F. SYDNEY EDEN, 
May croft, Fy field Road, Walthamstow. 



THE "BOW-WOW" STYLE. 

MB. CURRY'S interesting article (11 S. iL 
522) has reminded me of the use of the 
familiar cry of the dog by serious writers. 
Max Miiller spoke of the extravagances of 
the school who favoured onomatopoeic 
explanations as " bow-wow words." This- 
was meant, of course, sarcastically, and the 
word generally connotes contempt and 
impudence rather than dignity or impressive - 
ness. But this is hardly so in three examples,, 
two of which are, I take it, derived from the 
earliest. Boswell in his ' Life of Johnson r 
(vol. ii. p. 326, ed. Birkbeck Hill) refers to 
his hero's mode of speaking as " indeed very 
impressive," and adds the note : 

" My noble friend Lord Pembroke said once to 
me at Wilton, with a happy pleasantry and some 
truth, that ' Dr. Johnson's sayings would not 
appear as extraordinary, were it not for his botc- 
ivow way.' " 

This clearly represents, to quote Boswell 
again in the same passage, Johnson's " deli- 
berate and strong utterance." When he 
started barking, no one else had a chance 
to break in; it was a case of the "sort of 
men " mentioned by v Gratiano at the 



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beginning of ' The Merchant of Venice,' who, 
when they do speak, seem to say, 

I am Sir Oracle, 

And when I ope my lips let no dog bark. 
The 'N.E.D.' gives a quotation of 1854 
which repeats this characterization of John- 
son, but not the passage itself. 

Now the mention of a big dog who silenced 
his companions or took a dignified lead in 
barking would give this meaning more 
clearly, and I find Scott in his pleasant way 
thus, perhaps, recalling the remark on John- 
son. He says ('Journal,' vol. i. p. 61, ed. 
1890) concerning the merits of some verses 
he wrote in 1825 to the tune of * Bonnie 
Dundee ' : 

" I wonder if they are good. Ah ! poor Will 
Krskine ! thou couldst and wouldst have told me. 
I must consult J. B., who is as honest as was W. E. 
But then, though he has good taste too, there is 
a little of Big Bow-wow about it." 

Again (i. 155), Scott praises Jane Austen's 
' Pride and Prejudice,' and adds : 

" That young lady had a talent for describing 
the involvements and feelings and characters of 
ordinary life, which is to me the most wonderful 
I ever met with. The Big Bow-wow strain I can 
do myself like any now going ; but the exquisite 
touch, which renders ordinary commonplace 
things and characters interesting, from the truth 
of the description and the sentiment, is denied to 
me." 

The first of these references seems to 
indicate pretentious or loud assurance ; 
the second the Grand Style. One would 
expect to find " bow-wow " in the writings 
of a master of the vernacular like Shake- 
speare, and it occurs in ' The Tempest.' 

WINKIE. 



PRINCE OF MONACO'S MEMOIR. 

(See 10 S. vii. 125,244; viii. 83; 11 S. i. 362.) 

THE following is a translation of another 
inedited prison paper of the Prince of 
Monaco in my possession, and is well 
written, without any erasures : 

Memoir sent 26 Thermidor [August] to the Com- 
mittee of General Safety, and addressed to 
the Representatives of the People, composing 
the Committee of General Safety. 

Citizens, A decree given the 18th of this 
month has charged you to set at liberty the 
citizens detained as suspects for reasons which 
are not designated by the law of 17 September, 
Old Style. 

The declaration above delivered by the Revo" 
lutionary Committee of Vigilance, of the section 
of the Ked Cap, gives the reason for my detention 
to be the emigration of one of my children. I 
thought I had proved by the different Memoirs 
that I have addressed to the National Conven- 



tion and to its Committees, especially by the- 
observations expressed on 14 Pluvidse [March],, 
of which I here give an example, that my son 
cannot be considered as an e'migre'. Besides, my 
absent son is 31 years old, out of my power by the 
laws, and has not dwelt with me since his marriage 
in 1781 ; he did not tell me of his departure, and 
I have not received news of him, nor have I 
written to him. 

But if my son ever could be called an Emigre, 
the law of 17 October, 1793, Old Style, cannot 
be applied to me, as it implies that only those 
former nobles shall be deemed suspects who are 
the fathers of Emigres who have not constantly 
manifested their attachment to the Revolution ; 
for, first in the quality of Prince of Monaco, and 
then in that of a private person, I have always 
shown my devotion and my zeal for the happiness 
of the French people and the prosperity of 
France. 

In reality, not satisfied with not having spared 
trouble or expense to provide for the victualling 
and necessary subsistence of the troops of France 
in garrison in the Place de Monaco, and those of 
the armies of Italy, sent in detachments into the 
said Principality and its environs, I have besides- 
borrowed a large sum at Genoa, which I still owe,, 
and which I have employed for the same use. 
I have several times advanced my own money for 
the payment of the French garrison, with the view 
of preventing any contingencies that might retard 
it. The deeds deposited in the Registers of the 
Treasury of the former Principality of Monaco 
are now at the disposal of the administrators 
of the Department of the Maritime Alps, and 
among the letters of the Minister of War' who 
has been informed of them. 

Protected by the same sentiments, I have always 
addressed the strongest representations and 
solicitations to the different Ministers of War 
to procure for the French troops in garrison at 
Monaco things necessary for them, and to make 
them preserve exactly the military discipline 
and laws decreed by the National Assembly, 
which is shown by my letters, that ought to be 
found in the War Office. 

The proofs of my constant attachment to the 
French Republic, as a private person, are no less 
real, and although they are contained in the 
different Memorials that" I have presented, I will 
recall them : 

The voluntary gift that I have made of several 
horses. 

That of 24 guns, or of their equivalent. 

That of 4 pieces of bronze cannon which be- 
longed to me, to the Commune of Thorigny, 
Department of La Manche. 

That of the first Tree of Liberty which has been 
placed in the same Commune. 

The assistance of bread and money that I have 
not ceased to give to the poor of the Communes 
where I have possessions. The money that 1 
have given to the Section of the Red Cap. 

Finally, the prompt and exact payment of all 
the ordinary and extraordinary contributions 
which have been levied on me up to this day. 

To all these proofs of my attachment I could 
also add my unbroken residence in France from . 
the commencement of the year 1790. 



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I believe, Citizens, that this short statemen 
argues sufficiently in my favour, and proves 
plainly that I cannot be classed, by the law o: 
17 September, 1793, Old Style, under suspected 
men. I could also support myself in thisi resped 
by the Report made by the Diplomatic Com 
mittee to the National Convention, 14 February 
1793, at the time of the reunion of the Principality 
.of Monaco to the French Republic, and claim the 
justice which this Committee did not fail to render 
on that occasion to the sentiments that I have 
always manifested. 

But, Citizens, I have without doubt sufficiently 
proved that I am entitled to profit by the kind 
intentions of the decree of the 18th of this month, 
and I implore your justice to grant me speedily 
the benefit of it, fully convinced that the repre- 
sentatives of a free and generous people will put 
.a stop to the detention which I have suffered 
for nearly a year, and that they will at the same 
time order the removal of the seals put in my 
house. 

As to the correspondence mentioned above, 
I can only congratulate myself that from what 
has been sent to the Committee of General Safety 
it will be the better able to judge of my true 
sentiments. As to being one of the enemies of 
the State, I cannot conceive what has led the 
Committee of Revolutionary Surveillance, of the 
Section of the Red Cap, to use these terms ; in 
truth, I am certain of never having written against 
the Revolution or the prosperity of the French 
Republic, and I defy any one to produce the 
slightest proof to the contrary. 

Health and Fraternity. 

On the title-page of this Memoir was 
copied the writing here added : 

Reasons for the detention of Citizen Monaco 

Grimaldi. 

Section of the Red Cap. 
Committee of Revolutionary Surveillance. 
The 24 Thermidor, year 2 of the Republic one 
and indivisible. Arrested as ex-noble, and having 
a son an emigre. On taking off the seals placed 
-on his house to extract the papers, they have 
sent all his correspondence with the enemies of 
the State, at home and beyond the Republic, 
to the Committee of General Safety. 

Made the day and year above said. 

Signed D'Aire President and Tosi Secretary. 

The MS. is on 4 pp. 4to, similar paper and 
watermark to the Examination (11 S. i. 362). 
The parts in italics are underlined in the 
original. The year seems to be 1794. 

D. J. 



EDWAED CHAPLIN. I have only just 
seen in ' N. & Q.' for 17 December, 1904 
(10 S. ii. 488), an inquiry as to Edward 
Chaplin, admitted to Westminster School 
in 1786. He was my grandfather, born 
7 July, 1771, and died 14 November, 1858. 
If G. F. R. B. wishes further information, 
I shall be happy to give it on his writing to 
me. HOLROYD CHAPLIN. 

2, Holland Villas Road, W, 



ANNA SEWABD : DATE OF HER BAPTISM. 
Mr. A L. Reade in his ' Johnsonian Glean- 
ings ' (p. 34) writes : "It is strange that the 
date of Anna Se ward's birth never seems 
to have been correctly stated." He gives 
the date as 1 December, 1744. 

Being her representative, tracing through 
the first wife of John Hunter, I have taken 
the trouble (I wish I had done so before 
publishing a booklet on Anna Seward) to 
obtain a certificate, signed on 5 May, 1910, 
by the present Rector of Eyam, which 
states that " Anne Seward, the daughter of 
the Rev. Thomas Seward, Rector of Eyam, 
and Mrs. Elizabeth Seward his wife," was 
baptized 28 December, 1742. 

The Seward family Bible is in the posses- 
sion of Sir Robert White-Thomson of Ex- 
bourne, North Devon, who is the representa- 
tive of Anna Seward through Hunter's 
second wife, and the statement in it that 
she was born on the 1st of December, 1744, 
and baptized on the 28th of the same month, 
and that her sponsors were her Uncle 
Norton, her Aunt Martin, and Mrs. Jackson 
of Burton, must, of course, now be treated 
as erroneous, so far as it relates to the date 
of the baptism. STAPLETON MARTIN. 

The Firs, Norton, Worcester. 

SYBIL, QUEEN or SCOTLAND : HER 
PARENTAGE. Alexander I., King of Scot- 
Land, about the time of his accession (1107), 
married " Sybilla," illegitimate daughter 
of Henry I., King of England ('D.N.B.'). 
Sybil's mother is not referred to, but under 
Henry I. she is said to have been a sister 
of Waleran, Count of Meulan, the authorities 
cited being Orderic and Skene's ' Celtic 
Scotland.' No doubt the sister referred to 
was Isabel (afterwards wife of Gilbert de 
Clare, 1st Earl of Pembroke), who was a 
mistress of Henry I. (Planche, ' Conqueror 
and his Companions,' i. 216). 

It seems rash to suggest that Orderic, a 
contemporary chronicler, was completely 
at fault ; but from a consideration of the 
dates involved it seems to me impossible 
:hat any sister of Count Waleran can have 
3een mother to Sybil. Waleran was the 
Idest son of Robert de Beaumont, Count 
of Meulan (France), Lord of Pontaudemer 
and Beaumont (Normandy), and 1st Earl of 
eicester, by his wife Isabel, daughter of 
Hugh the Great, Count of Vermandois, 
younger son of Henry I., King of France 
ibid, i. 212). When the marriage of Robert 
and Isabel was projected, it was forbidden 
n the ground of consanguinity, by Ivo, 
3ishop of Chartres, at the beginning of 1096 



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(Chester Waters, ' Gundrada de Warrenne/ 
pp. 16-17). However, the Pope granted a 
dispensation, on condition that Isabel's 
father should take the cross, and the marriage 
took place in 1096-7. If we assume that their 
daughter Isabel was the eldest child of this 
marriage, and was born at the earliest 
possible moment, she would have been about 
ten years of age when her alleged daughter 
married the King of Scots. 

Even if Alexander's marriage did not take 
place so early as stated by the ' D.N.B.' 
a point on which Scottish readers may be 
able to give some information it seems im- 
possible to account for the discrepancy a 
whole generation. I suggest that Sybil's 
mother must have been another of Henry I.'s 
numerous mistresses. 

Cobbe calls Alexander's wife " Hedwig," 
but affiliates her to Henry I. as an illegiti- 
mate child by " Elizabeth, daughter of 
Ho. de Bellomont, Count of Meulan" 
('Norman Kings of England,' Table III.). 
" De Bellomont " is simply a mistranslation 
of " de Bello Monte," the Latinized form of 
de Beaumont. G. H. WHITE. 

St. Crc SB, Harleston, Norfolk. 

GEOFFREY POLE, the Winchester scholar of 
whom mention has been made at 9 S. viii. 
73, 449, under the heading * Anthony 
Fortescue,' and at 9 S. ix. 468 under ' Sir 
Geoffrey Pole, died 1558,' was not attainted 
26 February, 1562/3 (Appendix II. to the 
Fourth Report of the Deputy Keeper of the 
Public Records, pp. 263-4), though Sir 
Thomas Smith mentions him as privy to 
the plot (' Cal. S.P. for 1562,' p. 480), as 
he was only 14 years old at the time. In 
1576 he was a magistrate of Sussex sus- 
pected of Popery (Strype, * Annals/ II. ii. 
22), and on 29 October, 1577, he was ordered 
to appear before the Privy Council (Dasent, 
' Acts,' x. 69). He had gone abroad before 
23 June, 1585, and had let Lordington to his 
nephew Anthony Fortescue the younger 
at 50Z. a year ('Cal. S.P. Dom., 1581-90,' 
p. 247, and cf. pp. 351, 354). In the ' Con- 
certatio Ecclesise ' he is called Galfrid. The 
fugitive Germane Pole (ibid., p. 705 ; 
' Cal. S.P. Dom., 1591-4,' at p. 15 ; 1598- 
1601, at p. 310), who had a brother Gervase 
at the English College, Rome, in 1599, 
belonged to the Derbyshire family, and was 
not a relative of Geoffrey. In 1600 the 
Duke of Parma was endeavouring to obtain 
the cardinal's hat for Arthur Pole, a son of 
the nephew of Cardinal Pole (i.e. of Geoffrey), 
a young man of 25 years of age, brought up 
from his childhood in the house of the late 



Cardinal Alexander Farnese (' Cal. S.P. Span., 
1587-1603,' at pp. 670, 671). On 19 June, 
1622, one of Geoffrey's daughters, Mary, was 
professed at St. Monica's Augustinian Con- 
vent at Louvain, aged 39, and the ' Chronicle/ 
vol. i. (Sands & Co., 1904), at pp. 242-3 f 
gives this account of her father : 

" He was a brave gentleman and courageous, a 
most constant Catholic, a harbourer of priests, 
and one who, being strong of hand, would beat 
the pursuivants and catchpolls so handsomely 
that they stood in great fear of him. Insomuch 
that once a pursuivant being sent down to serve 
a writ upon him for his conscience, he chanced to 
meet with the pursuivant upon the way ; so- 
that riding together the fellow began to speak 
something of Mr. Geoffrey Pole, saying thus : 'He 
is a shrewd man of his hands, for he did beat a 
brother of mine, but I have here something, I 
warrant, that will cool his courage ' ; and told 
him how he had brought the writ for him. He 
heard him, and said nothing who he was, but 
entertained him with talk and rode on together 
so long till he had him in a fit place, and then said 
to him : ' Here is Geoffrey Pole ; what hast thou 
to say to him ? ' The fellow pulled out his writ 
and said as the manner is, ' The Queen greets you ' 
(for it was in her reign). He, hearing this, made 
no more ado, but drew his sword and said : ' Look 
here, fellow, I give thee thy choice ; either eat 
up this writ presently, or else eat my sword : 
for one of both thou shalt do ere we part hence/ 
The poor man began to quake for fear and durst 
not resist him, but like a coward was wholly 
daunted, and did indeed eat up the writ for mere 
fear rather than he would be killed. So became 
the writ of no effect, but only to punish the 
pursuivant for his pains. Such like good feats 
did this worthy gentleman perform, showing 
always his zeal unto the Catholic religion. At 
length he came over to this side the seas, where 
he died like a constant Catholic, in voluntary 
banishment at Antwerp." 

The chronicler also states that Geoffrey was 
the only one of all the sons of Sir Geoffrey 
who had issue. She also tells us, at p. 257, 
that one of Geoffrey's sisters was mother-in- 
law to a certain Richard Lamb, Esq., who 
was in the household of Lord Montague. 

Is it known whom Geoffrey married ? 
Or what became of his issue ? 

JOHN B. WAINEWKIGHT. 

" CARPET - BAGGER." In a recent Times 
article on American social conditions it 
was mentioned that this expression was 
applied by Southerners after the Civil War 
to Northern officials sent among them during 
the Reconstruction period. The term was 
unpopular as denoting one whose worldly 
possessions could be carried in a carpet- 
bag. In this country " carpet-bagger " 
seems to mean an unknown meteoric candi- 
date who puts up at a local hotel with his 
carpet-bag during the contest. Not long 
ago I heard this term applied to a municipal 



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candidate who crossed to a different quarte 
of London from that in which he residec 
and was known. As the carpet-bag is rarely 
if ever, seen in these days, though the politi 
cal epithet " carpet-bagger " is likely t( 
continue in currency, its etymology will be 
come obscure. FRANCIS P. MARCHANT. 
Streatham Common. 

["Carpet-bagger," described as U.S. politica 
slang, is in the section of the ' N.K.D.' publishe 
in 1888. The last sentence of the article notice 
the introduction of the term into English politics. 



" MUSICE MENTIS MEDICINA 

In No. 33, p. 28, of * A Student's Pastime 
(' N. & Q.,' 3 S. xii. 412) Prof. Skeat writes : 

" On the fly-leaf of a Collection of Musica 
Tunes, by John Dowlande, M.B., in MS. Camb 
Univ. Dd. ii. 11, is the following specimen o 
-alliteration : ' Musica mentis medicina mcestae.' ' 

The source of the quotation does not seem 
to have been recognized. 

A still more striking example of allitera 
tion is afforded when these words are com- 
bined with the remainder of the stanza : 

Musice mentis medicina moestac, 
Musice multum minuit malorum, 
Musice magnis, metliis, minutis 

Maxima mittit. 

This is the conclusion of a poem by Walter 
Haddon (1516-72), headed ' De Musica ' 
on p. 69 (wrongly numbered 66) of his 
* Poemata,' at the end of his ' Lucubra- 
tiones,' London, 1567. The poem consists 
of five Sapphic stanzas, the first three lines 
of each beginning with some case of 
" musice." 

Burton, ' Anatomy of Melancholy,' 2.2.6.3, 
6th ed., p. 299, has " Musica est mentis 
medicina mcestce, a roaring-meg against 
Melancholy." The last words must have 
been suggested by the title of a work of 
1598 quoted, under ' Roaring Meg, in the 
"'N.E.D.' : 'Tyros Roring Megge Planted 
against the walles of Melancholy,' which is 
in the list (Selden MS. 80, supra) of Burton's 
books that were given to the Bodleian. 

EDWARD BENSLY. 

BENJAMIN BATHURST. The ' D.N.B.' has 
found this English diplomat worthy of 
notice on account of his mysterious dis- 
appearance in Germany now more than 101 
years ago. With regard to his death The 
Observer of 18 December last published a 
short notice under the title of ' A Century- 
Old Mystery,' according to which a skeleton 
was found recently in a field close to the 
little Prussian town of Perleberg, near Berlin, 
^buried face downwards, and with a large hole 



in the forehead. The only object found 
with the remains was " a large key, believed 
to be of old English workmanship." The 
bones were being examined as to their age. 

L. L. K. 

* 

THE SECOND EARL SPENCER : HIS DEATH. 
The recent death of John, fifth Earl 
Spencer, has occasioned some newspaper 
references to the Althorp library and its 
founder, George John, the second Earl. 
It is rather difficult to say how much assis- 
tance his eulogizer T. Frognall Dibdin 
rendered in bringing that marvellous col- 
lection together probably very little ; but 
at least in his * Bibliotheca Spenceriana ' 
he compiled a most useful work, and satis- 
fied the pride of his patron, who rewarded 
him by obtaining his appointment to the 
living of St. Mary, Bryanston Square. 
The news of Lord Spencer's last illness 
and death came to Dibdin suddenly in a 
letter now before me : 

Althorp, Nov. 10, 1834. 
MY DEAR SIR, 

As Lord Spencer's illness has only been of four 
days' duration, it is probable that you may not 
yet have heard of it. Most truly grieved am I to 
tell you, as you will be to hear, that there is no 
doubt of its terminating fatally ; and it is more 
than probable that the postscript to this will 
confirm the suspicion. Lord Althorp and all the 
family are here. You and I and very many more 
will lose in him their best friend. 
My dear Sir, 

Very sincerely yours, 

GEO. APPLEYARD. 

P.S. 25 min. past 2. 

T have just seen him breathe his last. 
The Rev'd Dr. Dibdin. 

The letter is not addressed, but probably 
Dibdin was then living at 58, Cambridge 
Street, Connaught Square. 

ALECK ABRAHAMS. 

WEDGE WOOD WARE AND WATER-CARRIAGE. 
In the course of a recent search through 
The Nottingham Journal for 1780 I inci- 
dentally came across and scanned a note of 
ome interest to ceramic students, although 
r did not, unfortunately, note the precise 
late. The item in question related to the 
onviction of a Nottingham man for stealing 
i large quantity of earthenware from a cask 
n a barge on the Trent, at Wilford Shoals, 
he said earthenware being the property of 
osiah Wedge wood of Etruria, Stafford- 
hire. Wilford is immediately above Not- 
ingham, on this river, and the note illus- 
rates the former importance of carriage by 
ter in England. A. STAPLETON. 

Nottingham. 



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ALNWICK : WALKING THROUGH A BOG. 
John Wesley makes the following note 
in his ' Journal ' for 25 April, 1753 : 

" We came to Alnwick on the day whereon those 
who have gone through their apprenticeship are 
made free of the corporation. Sixteen or seventeen, 
we were informed, were to receive their freedom this 
day, and in order thereto (such is the unparalleled 
wisdom of the present corporation, as well as of 
their forefathers), to walk through a great bog (pur- 
posely preserved for the occasion ; otherwise it 
might have been drained long ago), which takes up 
some of them to the neck, and many of them to the 
breast." 

RICHARD H. THORNTON. 

36, Upper Bedford Place, W.C. 



WE must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 



BISMARCK, Miss RUSSEL, AND Miss 
LORAINE. Prince Otto von Bismarck (born 
1815), the first Chancellor of the German 
Empire, was in Aix-la-Chapelle in 1836, 
where, as well as in 1837 in Wiesbaden, he 
was on friendly terms with two young 
English ladies whose names, according to 
a letter from Bismarck to his wife in 1851, 
were " Miss Russel and Miss Isabella 
Loraine." It is reported that Bismarck 
had then the serious intention of becoming 
engaged to one of these ladies. 

In another letter from Bismarck dated 
1836 the above-named Miss Russel is referred 
to as " the niece of the Duke and Duchess 
of C." This " C." means, doubtless, Cleve- 
land. 

Any information about the life, birth, 
family, &c., of Miss Russel and Miss Isa- 
bella Loraine would be appreciated by 

DR. A. VON WILKE. 

Wilmersdorf, near Berlin, Kaiserallee 192. 

MATTHEW PRIOR'S BIRTHPLACE. Has 
anything been discovered in regard to 
Matthew Prior's parents, ancestry, and place 
of birth since Johnson wrote the ' Lives of 
the English Poets ' ? In it he speaks of Prior 
as of unknown parents ; saying that accord- 
ing to some he was born at Wimborne, 
Dorset, but that others said he was the son 
of a joiner in London. In a note Johnson 
adds : 

" The difficulty of settling Prior's birthplace 
is great. In the register of his College he is 
called, at his admission by the President, Matthew 
Prior of Winburn in Middlesex ; by himself next 



day, Mathew Prior of Dorsetshire, in which county, 
not in Middlesex, Winborn, or Wimborne as it 
stands in the ' Villare,' is found. When he stood 
candidate for his fellowship five years after- 
wards, he was registered again by himself as of 
Middlesex. The last record ought to be pre- 
ferred, because it was made upon oath," &c. 

There are references to this subject in 
'N. & Q.' previous to 1893; also in Hutchins's 
' Dorset,' third edition, and in Longmaris 
Magazine for October, 1884 ; but I infer 
that at that date nothing was definitely 
known either as to his parents or place of 
birth. E. HAVILAND HILLMAN. 

3227, Campo S. Samuele, Venice. 

[The ' D.N.B.' in 1896 gave the date of Prior's 
birth as 21 July, 160-1, and state that the place 
is uncertain, but that " the bulk of tradition " 
is in favour of Dorset.] 

THACKERAY'S LAST WORDS. Thackeray 
was found dead in his bed at 2, Palace Green, 
Kensington, on Christmas morning, 1863. 
According to his biography by his daughter, 
the last words he ever wrote, which were 
found by his bedside, were these : " And 
his heart throbbed with an infinite peace." 
In which of his works do these words occur ? 

FREDERICK T. HIBGAME. 
8, Tottenham Place, Clifton. 

[Not correctly quoted, but from the latest sheets 
of ' Denis Duval.j 

BOWLES'S ' HUNDRED OF PEN WITH.' I 
should be very grateful indeed to any owner 
of Bowles's ' Short Account of the Hundred 
of Penwith' (1805) who would be kind 
enough to lend me this scarce volume. I 
am writing a history of the parishes of 
Phil lack and Gwithian, and desire to refer 
to the above work. 

J. HAMBLEY ROWE, M.B. 

88, Horton Grange Road, .Bradford, 

SONGS OF THE PEASANTRY. Have any 
readers heard old servants, gardeners, 
labourers, and others singing songs remem- 
bered from youthful days ? I began to 
collect such songs twenty years ago, and have 
been the means of saving many a gem 
from being forgotten. I am about to 
publish another book of songs of the 
peasantry, and shall feel obliged if any 
reader will contribute to it, naming the 
binger and place where obtained. Acknow- 
ledgment will be made. Songs lately 
published are not desired. Dialect or 
ordinary English words may be sent, and 
the name of the tune or a rough copy of the 
melody should be given. Songs of love- 
struck swains, dialogues between lovers, 
liumorous incidents in life, carols, ballads, 



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heroic deeds, and love of animals, flowers, 
and country scenes are the topics that I 
have in mind. Any help in my quest 
will be gratefully received. 

JOHN GBAHAM, 

Editor of Dialect Songs, Morris Dances, &c. 

74, Park Hall Road, East Finchley, N. 



' A VOICE FROM THE BUSH.' I am very 
anxious to obtain a copy of a poem called 
' A Voice from the Bush.' I was told it 
was by Lindsay Gordon, but have been 
unable to find it. Could you tell me where 
it is to be found, or who is the author ? 

MARGARET LAWRENCE. 
The Lawn, Windsor Road, Chorley, Lanes. 



AMERICAN WORDS AND PHRASES. I con- 
clude from 10 S. xi. 469 ; xii. 107 ; 11 S. ii. 
67, my list of words and phrases in American 
papers : 

Read out. This means to turn a man out of a 
political party, the allusion being to a kind of 
excommunication. Was there ever among the 
Independents or others an actual " reading " 
of a person out of the society ? 

Squab boat. What was this ? In 1800 I read 
of a " squab boat skipper." 

Stansberry reproof. Who was Stansberry ? One 
man (1839) is determined to give another this 
kind of reproof, apparently a pistol-shot. 

Stifel. A horse is said (1798) to be " narrow 
across the stifel." This looks mightily like a 
Holland word, but I do not find it in the Dutch 
dictionary. 

Stocking feet, i.e., feet without shoes. Is this 
expression Scottish ? 

Toe the mark. Are there any English examples 
before 1819 ? 

Tunket. What is this ? The phrase " as cold 

as a tunket " occurs in 1847. 
Tussey boys. What were they ? In 1838 Mr 

Bynum of North Carolina used the phrase in 

Congress. 
Unterrified, the. Who first applied this term 

to the Democratic party ? 
Vicksburger. This was (1836) a large hat. Was 

there a factory of such hats at Vicksburg ? 
W T hitehead. To do a thing like a whitehead was 

(about 1830) to do it thoroughly. W 7 hat is th 

allusion ? 
Whitewash. Are there English examples of this 

verb in a figurative sense before 1762 ? In thai 

year The Boston Evening Post alludes to a man 

" lately whitewashed (taken the benefit of th 

Bankrupt Act)." And in 1800 it means to 

cleanse a character superficially. 
i r ork waggon. W T as this a waggon made a1 

York in Pennsylvania ? 

RICHARD H. THORNTON. 
36, Upper Bedford Place, W.C. 



6 THE FLYING DUTCHMAN.' I wish to 
.earn the name of the author of the verses- 
entitled * The Flying Dutchman,' beginning 

Before the screaming hurricane, the Dutchman 

pitched and rolled ; 

She staggered along to the storm's wild song 
And buried her decks the seas among, 

Till the dawn brake bitterly cold. 

Where may they be found ? C. B, 

AUTHORS or QUOTATIONS WANTED. 
Who was the author of a piece of poetry in 
which the last line of every verse runs some- 
what as follows ? 

0, never question curiously. 
The last verse is somewhat as follows : 

I charge you, ye impassioned few, 
If the white swanwing comes to you, 
What is to you the whence or how ? 
Be happy in the blissful now ; 
Accept the light that glads thy brow, 
And never question curiously. 

N. u. a 



Midway the road of our life's term they met, 
And one another knew without surprise, 

Nor cared that beauty stood in mutual eyes, 
Nor at their tardy meeting nursed regret 

C. L. H. 



A touch of the sun for pardon, 

The song of a bird for mirth ; 
We are nearer God's heart in the garden 

Than anywhere else on the earth. 

W. W. K. 



HARTLEY WINTNEY, HANTS : PRIORESS 
MARTYN'S MONUMENT. The will of Eliza- 
beth Martyn, " sometime prioress of Wynt- 
ney," dated 24 July, 1584, and proved in the 
Peculiar Court of the Dean of Sarum 
(Register iv. fo. 147), directs that her body 
should be buried in the chancel of Hartley 
Wintney, and contains the following 
clause : 

" I would that a stone should be layde over 
my grave w th a picture of a plate of a woman 
in a long garment w th wyde sieves hir handes 
ioyned together holdinge uppon her brest and 
figured over her hedd In te domine speraui non 
confundor in seternum In justicia tua libera me 
et salua me I woulde that an herse shoulde be 
standinge over my grave by the space of an whole 
yere couerued ouer w th black cotten w th a cross of 
white fusty on." 

A sum of 10?. is left for conveying the body 
from Okingham. 

Can any one say if these directions were 
carried out ? F. J. POPE. 

17, Holland Road, W. 



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ANDBEW LANG ON THE ODYSSEY. Some 
fifteen years ago, about Christmastime, there 
was an article by Mr. Andrew Lang in some 
well-known illustrated paper, consisting of a 
review of the Odyssey, at its first publication, 
by the Theates of Chios. What is the refer- 
ence to this article ? W. WALLAS. 

PHIPPS on PHIP FAMILY. I have made 
a large collection of notes on persons of the 
name of Phipps and Phip of nearly every 
county in England, of Ireland, the West 
Indies, and of New England. It includes 
abstracts of many P. wills dating from 
1521 to 1810, which I propose to get printed. 
I shall be glad to get more notes from old 
registers or documents, and to correspond 
with any one interested. I want especially 
to know more of the P. family of Notting- 
ham (and perhaps of Derbyshire) before 
1600. Robert P. of St. Nicholas, Notting- 
ham (described as gentleman in his son's 
marriage licence), married, 1574, Isabel 
Brounley, and had sons George, William, 
Anthony. An administration was granted 
in 1615 to George P. of Robert P. " nuper 
de Baker, Notts," a place now unknown. 
George P. was of Edwalton, near Notting- 
ham, and married, 1606, Ann, dau. of 
William Elliott of Stoke, and widow of John 
Power of Edwalton. I cannot find his will. 
In 1616 an administration P.C.C. was 
granted to Ann, widow of George P. of Ufnng- 
ton, Lincoln. 

Of George's children Francis, Caleb, Ann, 
Judith, the eldest Francis went to Reading 
about 1630, and owned " The Bear Inn " 
there ; he was imprisoned in Windsor Castle 
by the Parliamentarians. He married pro- 
bably three times, and by his second wife 

Anne, dau. of Sharpe of Cirencester 

(who left a will which I cannot find), had 
among others a son Capt. James P. of St. 
Kitts, West Indies, who continued my line 
there, and was killed in 1689 by the French 
during the siege. Another son was Sir Con- 
stantine P., an ancestor of the Mulgraves 
(see Crisp, vol. Notes). 

I know a good deal about the families of 
Ecclesfield (York), of Oxford and Herts, of 
Warwick, and of Wilts. 

What is the authority for the statement 
that a Col. William P. of Lincoln raised a 
regiment of horse for King Charles I. ? 
He was not the ancestor of Sir Constantino 
P., as Burke used to say. George P. of 
Ecclesfield, writing about 1740 to one of Sir 
Constantino's family, says that these two 
families had been confused, but then him- 
self confuses them. He says also that a Col. 



P. was with Sir Francis Wortley when he 
drove Hotham into Hull. 

The name is spelt in fifty different ways, 
but in only one case have I found any sign of 
Phipps coming from Phillips. 

I think I have a clue to the family of Sir 
William P., Governor of New England. 

Communications should be addressed to 
R.A. Mess, Ferozepore, India. 

H. R. PHIPPS, Major R.F.A. 

LONDON GUNSMITHS AND THEIB WOKK. 
Is there any book of reference or monograph 
dealing with this subject ? I have collected 
the names of upwards of fifty makers who 
produced firearms during the eighteenth 
century and the first half of the nineteenth, 
but with rare exceptions I can learn nothing 
about the individuals or firms. In many 
cases makers seem to have collaborated, 
one firm's name appearing on the barrel, 
while another's is engraved on the locks, 
but more often the names are the same on 
both. 

Amongst the names which I have found 
engraved on examples of the period referred 
to are : 

1. On Early eighteenth-century work. Hosey, 
John. Rowland, R. Tourney, John. 

2. Middle eighteenth- century. Cahtman. Col- 
lumbell. Diemar. Hadley, H. Hudson, Thos, 
Mackenzie, D. Segallas. Shruder, James. Tur- 
Vey, \V. 

3. Late eighteenth-century. Baker. Barbar. 
Barker. Bayr, Thos. Bidet. Davis, T. Griffin 
(Bond Street). Griffin & Tow. Harman, John. 
Huhnstock, A. Kolbe. Knubley. Nock. Nock, H. 
Parkes. Tanner. Tatham. Tatham & Egg. 

4. Early nineteenth-century. Baker. Baker, E. 
Baker, Ezekiel. Baker, E., & Sons. Bate. 
Bates. Brown, E. (Strand). Brunn, S. (55, 
Charing Cross). Buresch, F. A. Clark (Holborn). 
Dupe & Co. Egg, D. Egg, Joseph (1, Picca- 
dilly). Gills. Manton. Manton, Joseph. Mor- 
timer, R. W. Mortimer, W. H. Mosely. 
Standenmayne or Staiidenmayer (this name 
appears in both forms). 

Certain Silversmiths seem to have special- 
ized in making mounts, trigger-guards, &c., 
for gunsmiths. Three of these whose work 
recurs frequently were Mark Bock (Shoe 
Lane), Jeremiah or Jeconiah Ashley (Green 
Street), and John King. Some information 
regarding these is found in Jackson's 
' English Goldsmiths and their W rk -'. 

The same names reappear in different 
combinations, but the above are the most 
common. Baker, whose name occurs most 
frequently, was the maker of the first rifled 
weapon adopted by the British Army, as 
when the 95th Regiment was constituted 
as a rifle corps it was armed with a " rifled 



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musket," invented and manufactured by 
this Baker. 

The names of the two Manton brothers, 
John and Joseph, appear more rarely, and 
generally on sporting firearms, although 
pistols are occasionally found with the name. 
The biography of these two is in the 
' D.N.B.,' from which it appears that " Joe 
Manton," in spite of his great repute, 
became insolvent in 1826. John Manton's 
shop was in Dover Street. 

Joseph Egg had a shop at 1, Piccadilly, 
and his address is sometimes found engraved 
on his productions. D. Egg (whose Christian 
name was Durward, although I have never 
seen it on any of his numerous weapons) 
was specially noted for making pistols, but 
he seems also to have made a type of fowling- 
piece which has been recently introduced 
again, in which the barrels are placed 
vertically above each other. 

Information regarding any of the names 
mentioned in the foregoing list will be received 
with interest. Please reply direct. 

E. RODGEB. 

Western Club, Glasgow. 



SPEAKER'S CHAIR OF THE OLD 

HOUSE OF COMMONS. 
(11 S. ii. 128, 177, 218, 331.) 

MY attention has been called by Mr. E. 
Wilson Dobbs of this city to the articles 
at the first three references relative to the 
Speaker's Chair of the House of Commons 
during Sir Charles Manners-Sutton's Speaker- 
ship. His son, the second Viscount Canter- 
bury, presented to the Parliament of Victoria, 
of which colony he was Governor, a chair 
bearing the following inscription : 

" The Speaker's chair : first House of Commons 
elected under Reform Act of 1832 Assembled 
January 29, 1833 ; dissolved December 30, 1834 
The Right Honble. Sir Charles Manners Sutton. 
0.C.B., ' Speaker ' Presented by his son, Vis : 
count Canterbury, G.C.M.G., and K.C.B., to the 
Legislative Assembly of Victoria." 

The State of Victoria having lent its 
Parliament House to the Parliament of the 
Commonwealth while the latter is in Mel- 
bourne, the chair "is now in my charge. 
The chair was apparently sent from London 
after Lord Canterbury had retired, as 
appears from a letter from him to the 
Speaker of the Legislative Assembly, dated 
12 June, 1873, and appearing in the Vic- 



torian ' Hansard ' of 30 July, 1873, p. 892. 
This appears to be the same chair mentioned 
by MB. JOHN ROBINSON, and yet the fact of 
its presentation would seem to show that it 
never left the possession of the Manners- 
Sutton family. ABTHUB WADSWOBTH, 

Librarian, Parliament of the 

Commonwealth. 
Melbourne. 



GAMNECOTJBT IN PICABDY : BABBABA DE 
BIEBLE (US. ii. 429, 512). The statement 
made at the latter reference by SCOTUS 
as to the marriage of John Erskine of Dun, 
the Superintendent, to a third wife, Margaret 
Keith, is hardly correct. There is no doubt 
that John Erskine married first Elizabeth 
Lindsay, daughter of David, fifth Earl of 
Crawford. She was contracted to him on 
20 December, 1522, he being then under 
fourteen (Fifth Report Hist. MSS. Comm., 
639) ; and she was his wife when she died 
on 29 July, 1538 (' Spalding Club Misc.,' 
iv. Pref. Ixvii). He married secondly 
Barbara de Bierle, as is proved by a charter 
of 20 September, 1543, granted by Sir 
Thomas Erskine of Kirkbuddo " nepoti 
meo Johanni Erskine de Dwne et Barbara 
de Beirle ejus conjugi." She died at Mont- 
rose, 15 November, 1572. John Erskine 
died 22 March, 1589/90 (ibid,). The 
' D.N.B.' wrongly quotes the ' Spalding Club 
Miscellany ' as authority for the date 
17 June, 1591. 

By his first wife Erskine left two sons, John 
and Robert, and a daughter Margaret, 
married to Patrick Maule of Panmure with 
issue, inter olios, two daughters, who both 
married great-grandsons of the Superinten- 
dent. John, the latter's eldest son, died 
vita patris without issue ; the second son 
Robert married Catherine Graham, and died 
in 1590, leaving with other children an eldest 
son John, who married Agnes Ogilvy, and 
died the year after his father in 1591 : he 
left, besides two sons, David and Arthur, 
who married the Maule ladies above men- 
tioned, an eldest son John. It was he, and 
not his great-grandfather, who married 
Margaret Keith. The genealogy no doubt 
is somewhat confusing, owing to the fact 
that three lairds died in three successive 
years. But the succession is proved in 
many ways ; it is only necessary to mention 
here a charter of 21 October, 1588, by which 
Robert Erskine, fiar of Dun, with consent 
of John Erskine of Dun his father (the 
Superintendent) and John Erskine of Logie 
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Margaret Keith, daughter of Robert, Lord 
Altrie, and John Erskine, son and apparent 
heir of John Erskine of Logie, her future 
spouse. 

Their marriage contract is dated at Dun 
25 August, 1588. After the death of her 
husband, Margaret Keith married secondly 
Sir John Lindsay of Ballinscho, third son of 
David, tenth Earl of Crawford. Their 
marriage contract was dated 26 May, 1599. 
She died in January, 1602. J. B. P. 

I am not primarily concerned as to the 
marriage of Barbara de Bierle to John 
Erskine in 1543, for I supposed it to be a 
well - known fact. I do not know whether 
any attempt has been made to demonstrate 
it in detail, but the following excerpts from 
the ' Reg. Mag. Sig. Scotire ' seem to be fairly 
conclusive : 

" 8th October, 1543. Confirmation of Charter 
of Sir Thomas Erskine of the lands of Kirkbuddo 
to his nephew John Erskine of Dun and Barbara 
de Bierle his wife." 

" 12tlr*? January, 1571/2. Confirmation of 
Charter of John Erskine of Dun, who with the 
consent of Barbara de Bierle his wife, part owner 
of the lands, granted; to John Erskine, son of the 
said John and Barbara, the lands of Kirkbuddo." 

" 18th August, 1585. Confirmation of Charter 
to John Erskine junior, ' filio Johannis Erskine 
de Dun inter eum et quondam Barbaram de 
Beirlie ejus uxorem genito.' " 

Barbara died 15 November, 1572. 

As regards the former marriage of John 
Erskine, the following excerpt from the 
' R.M.S. Scotise ' is under date 20 October, 
1535 : 

"Precept of Saisine in favour of John Erskine 
of Dun and Lady Elizabeth Lindsay his wife by 
David, Earl of Crawford." 
Who was her brother ? She died 29 July 
1638. 

In the records known as Registrum de 
Panmure appears : 

" Patrick Maule married 1562 withe Margaret 
Erskine, daughter to Sir Jhone Erskine of Dune 
Superintendant of Angus, and Barbara de Bierle 
ane Frenchwoman borne in Picardie, dauchter 
of the Lord of Gamnecourt quha came in Scotland 
withe Marie de Lorraine, Queene Regent. His 
wife died 1599. He wes, as his father and for 
bears, mikil gewine to haukine and hountaine 
and newir did want for that effect haukes anc 
dogges. He died 1605." 

I am moreover informed that the chartei 
chest of the descendants in the male line 
of the second marriage referred to abov 
contains at least a dozen writs specifying 
Barbara as the spouse of John Erskine, anc 
carrying in some cases her signature anc 
seal. W. C. J. 



" LOVE ME, LOVE MY DOG " (11 S. ii. 
>22). It is pleasant indeed to read the 
cholarly and humane contribution of MB. 
3uBBY on the subject of " Love me, love 
iy dog " ; his heait must be as that of the 
Indian who 

Thinks, admitted to an equal sky, 

His faithful dog shall bear him company, 

and will maintain with scrupulous sincerity 
:hat man's greatest companion is unques- 
ionably the dog. Often have I pondered 
why Sterne should have used such beautiful 
English over a donkey rather than a dog. 
3ut I wish to add to MB. CUBBY'S notes the 
fact that the proverbs in Camden's ' Re- 
maines ' are not the earliest in our litera- 
ture, because I have in mind John Hey- 
wood's ' Proverbes,' first printed in 1546, 
and in that collection appears 

[s that ye haue bene so veraie a hog 

To my freendis. What man, loue me, loue my dog. 

Earlier again than Camden is the use made 
of the proverb by George Chapman (1612) 
in his comedy ' The Widdowes Teares.' Sir 
Thomas More reminds us " Whosoever 
loveth me, loveth my hound." By the way, 
what a peculiar play on the proverb is the 
French rendering " Who loves Jack loves 
his dog " (" Qui aime Jean aime son chien ") ! 

S. W. MAY. 
Liverpool. 

MB. CUBBY is perfectly correct regarding the 
unrelieved aversion and disgust of the early 
Hebrews for dogs, despite their humani- 
tarian consideration for the animal kingdom 
in general. To the Hebrews, as to the 
Greeks, man alone was worthy of the highest 
admiration ; so that such a dictum as " Love 
me, love my dog," was hardly compatible 
with their philosophy. Still, the dog must 
have won some measure of good treatment, 
even from that primitive people, when one 
of its leading men was named Caleb = dog. 
A passage in Theocritus, where the ferocity 
of dogs is held in quite as much abhorrence 
as it is in the Scriptures, is noteworthy. 
The poet enjoins Polyphemus " to keep a 
sharp eye on his dog lest he leap up and 
rend Galatea's fair flesh " : 

rj ras TratSos ri Kva/xatertv opovcnj 
Kara 8f oa KO.\OV d 



This may be paralleled by a story told in 
Tractate Sabbath 63. The good citizens 
and others used to breed a species of mastiff, 
called by the Rabbins "a caleb rong" or "bad 
dog," to warn off vagrants and intruders. 
They were the terror of the neighbourhood ; 
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Talmud, a woman on her way to the public 
bakeries, being barked at by one of these 
brutes, was seized with premature labour. 
Hence arose the saying " Whoso harbours a 
ferocious dog mars the happiness of the home- 
stead " ; a proverb which Rashi interprets 
to mean " dogs drive away wandering 
minstrels and poor scholars, whose presence 
in the home is a source of joy." And here 
let me put on record an obvious textual 
corruption or misreading. The Gemarists 
derive that aphorism from Job vi. 14, and 
then proceed to add " the Greeks call a dog 
lomas," meaning, of course, Av/<vs=wolf. 
Are wolves tamable ? Can they be used 
as watchdogs ? The point is worth finding 
out. 

To what extent in later times Jews made 
dogs companions in the home it is difficult 
to state positively, iinless this passage in the 
Mischna implies it: "It is forbidden to 
take out dogs on the Sabbath for exercise." 
Still, the animal must have advanced in 
social favour when we read in Horioth 13 
that " a dog knows its owner always ; a 
cat never." The dog never rose to the 
dignity reached by the ox or the horse : 
" Among beasts, the ox ; over birds, chanti- 
cleer, is king " (Baba Kama 86). Love of 
animals generally is shown in two citations : 
" Sit not down to meals until your beast be 
fed " (Berachoth 39). " Animals should be 
fed at certain intervals, according to their 
habits" (Sanhedrin 21). 

M. L. R. BBESLAB. 

Percy House, South Hackney. 

When Sir Walter Scott writes of the dog 
or the horse, he invariably illustrates his 
own warm predilection and his unique 
experience. It may not be amiss to supple- 
ment MB. CUBBY'S apposite reference by 
recalling the notable tribute paid to the 
sagacity of the dog in connexion with the 
episode of King Richard's banner which is 
vividly delineated in ' The Talisman.' In 
chap. xxiv. the king's eulogy, prompted by 
Roswal's detection of Conra'de, rests on the 
novelist's creed : 

" Recollect that the Almighty, who gave the 
dog to be companion of our pleasures and our 
toils, hath invested him with a nature noble and 
incapable of deceit. He forgets neither friend 
nor foe remembers, and with accuracy, both 
benefit and injury. He hath a share of man's 
intelligence, but no share of man's falsehood. 
You may bribe a soldier to slay a man with his 
sword, or a witness to take life by false accusation ; 
but you cannot make a hound tear his benefactor 
he is the friend of man, save when man justly 
mcurs his enmity." 



See also the touching ' Hellvellyn,' giving 
the story of the youth who perished on the 
mountain-side, with only his devoted terrier 
to witness his passing : 
Nor yet quite deserted, though lonely extended, 
For, faithful in death, his mute favourite attended, 
The much-loved remains of her master defended, 

And. chased the hill-fox and the raven away. 

THOMAS BAYNE. 

Why does MB. CUBBY say that the 
authority of Homer, in allowing a dog to 
live for 20 years, is against that of Aristotle ? 
Aristotle's opinion is clearly in favour of 
Homer. After stating the length of life of the 
Laconian dog, he says : 

" Other dogs live, most for about 14 or 15 years* 
some even 20 ; wherefore some think that Homer 
was correct when in his poetry he made the dog 
of Ulysses die in its twentieth year." ' De 
Animalibus Hist.,' vi. 21. 4. 

WEBNEBINA. 

DB. JOHNSON IN THE HUNTING FIELD 
(11 S. ii. 525). The extract from The 
Periodical comes originally from ' Anec- 
dotes of Dr. Johnson, by Mrs. Piozzi ' 
(first published in 1785), to be found in 
* Johnsoniana ; or, Supplement to Boswell,' 
1836, Anecdote 99, p. 66. The writer 
interpolates some comments, and alters the 
original text, i.e., if the original is given in 
' Johnsoniana,' where the first part of the 
anecdote is : 

" He certainly rode on Mr. [not " Mrs."] 
Thrale's old hunter with a good firmness, and 
though he would follow the hounds fifty miles 
an [not " on "] end sometimes, would never own 
himself either tired or amused." 

The last few lines should not be omitted : 

" He was however proud to be amongst the 
sportsmen ; and I think no praise ever went so 
close to his heart, as when Mr. Hamilton called 
out one day upon Brighthelmstone Downs, 
' Why, Johnson rides as well, for aught I see, 
as the most illiterate fellow in England.' " 

A foot-note says : 

" Mr. Boswell says, that Johnson once hunted ; 
this seems more probable than Mrs. Piozzi's 
and Hawkins's statements, from which it would 
be inferred that he hunted habitually." 

Anecdote 606, on a page (397) headed 
" Kearsley. Boothby," is as follows : 

" Being asked his opinion of hunting, he said, 
' It was the labour of the savages of North Ame- 
rica, but the amusement of the gentlemen of 
England.' " 

In Anecdote 657 (apparently one of 
Ooker's), pp. 427-8, Johnson says that 
pleasure is derived from hunting " because 
man feels his vacuity less in action than 
when at rest." ROBEBT PIEBPOINT. 



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WET HAY (11 S. ii. 469, 535). It will 
probably surprise many, and especially all 
such as have a kindly regard for the dog as the 
friend of man, to hear that " wet hay, rather 
than dry hay, is the ordinary furnishing 
of a dog-kennel." Their astonishment will 
be intensified when they learn further that 
the treatment of a noble animal implied in 
this statement is deliberate and habitual. 
" Exposure to moist atmosphere," we are 
told, " will soon render hay damp enough. 
It is not very often renewed, being con- 
sidered good enough for a dog." One 
wonders what will be thought of state- 
ments of this kind by owners and keepers, 
from the shepherd with his collie and the 
collier with hip, lurcher to the lady who 
pampers her lapdog and the managers of such 
kennels as those of the Beaufort and Quorn 
hunts. Those .unfamiliar with the dog and 
his ways may overlook the fact that he is 
delicate as well as faithful and energetic, and 
that rheumatism is one of the troubles 
that would inevitably disable him if he were 
constantly doomed to rest on damp hay. 

THOMAS BAYNE. 

SIR LYONELL GUEST (11 S. ii. 509). 
He was the only son of Alexander Guest of 
Tewkesbury by Margery, dau. of John 
Meredeth of Upper Weld, Bucks, and came 
to Ireland as a captain in the Army about 
1595. He m. 1st Elizabeth, dau. and heir of 
Simon Love of Northamptonshire, by whom 
he had an only dau. Elizabeth, who m. 
Edward Rondell of London. He m. 2ndly 
Elinor, widow of David O'Duda of Castle 
Connor, co. Sligo, dau. of Patrick Lynch 
of The Knock, co. Meath. He died about 
1620. His widow m. Srdly Capt. William 
May ; 4thly (as 2nd wife), Capt. Lisagh 
O'Connor of Leixlip ; and 5thly (as 2nd 
wife) Gerald Fitz Gerald of Gla'ssealy, co. 
Kildare. G. D. B. 

EUSEBY CLEAVER, ARCHBISHOP OF DUBLIN 
(11 S. ii. 489). Archbishop Cleaver married 
Catherine, daughter of the Right Hon. 
Owen Wynne, M.P., of Hazlewood, co. 
Sligo, by the Hon. Anne Maxwell, daughter 
of John, 1st Lord Farnham, and sister of 
Robert, Earl of Farnham. The prerogative 
marriage licence between Euseby Cleaver 
of Dublin, D.D., and Catherine Wynne of 
St. Michan's, Dublin, is dated 28 April, 1788. 
Brady (' Records of Cork, Cloyne, and Ross,' 
iii. 81) says they were married in May. 
The marriage almost certainly took place at 
St. Michan's. HENRY B. SWANZY. 

[L. A YV. also thanked for reply.] 



WILLIAM FITZGERALD (11 S. ii. 489) 
was eldest son of John F., Dean of Cork. 
He entered T.C.D. 22 June, 1660, aged 17 
(Brady's ' Cork '). HENRY B. SWANZY. 

ROGERSON COTTER (11 S. ii. 489). 
Rogerson Cotter, son of Sir J. Cotter, and 
Fellow of Trin. Coll., Cambridge, was called 
to the Irish Bar in Trinity Term, 1773. 

If G. F. R. B. cares to communicate with 
me, I can supply him with further particulars 
concerning John and Joseph Nixon than are 
given in * Alumni West.' 

HENRY B. SWANZY. 

The Rectory, Omeath, co. Louth. 

JOHN COSTON IN ST. BOTOLPH'S, ALDERS- 
GATE (11 S. ii. 485). It may not be out of 
place to give a copy of the inscription 
which stood on the " S. side of the entrance 
to the Chancel " in St. Botolph's Church in 
1708 : 

Pars Terrestris 

Joannis Coston, Registrar!! sedis Archiepisco- 
palis Cantuar. Principalis Amceq: Curias Cant, 
de ArcubusLond.procuratorum generalium unius. 
Sexaginta Annos cum multa pietate & probitate 
sub polo prajtergressus 3 Julii 1614. Animam 
effavit. Relictis Simone & Anna, filio & filia 
unicis in Sacros Cineres redact, sub pedibus diem 
Novemb. expectat. 'A New View of London/ 
vol. i. (1708) p. 160. 

The inscription was on a marble monu- 
ment with " Scelletons Heads," and the arms 
were carved in " Basso releivo." 

ALFRED CHAS. JONAS. 

NOTTINGHAM MONASTERY NOT IN DUGDALE 
(11 S. ii. 468). The passage referred to is 
evidently the following : 

" Titulus Ecclesie Sancte Trinitatis de Notyng- 
ham. Anima ejus et anime omnium ndelium 
defunctorum requiescant in pace. Amen. Orate 
pro nostris Hugone (pr.), Lamberto (pr.), Walterio 
(mo.), Radulfo (mo.), Willielmo (mo.), Roberto 
(mo.), Walterio (mo.), et pro ceteris." 

The reviewer uses the term " a founda- 
tion." S. 

My inquiry on this subject has been 
courteously replied to direct by a gentle- 
man connected with the Public Record 
Office. It incidentally appears that (as 
I had previously surmised) the reviewer I 
quoted had not unnaturally arrived at an 
erroneous conclusion. The text of the 
French roll of circa 1120 refers to the 
" Church of the Holy Trinity of Notting- 
ham." We have, however, parallel evi- 
dences testifying that this was but an early 
appellation of the great priory, of like dedica- 
tion, at Lenton, on the confines of the 



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ancient borough, which it spiritually 
dominated. The inmates are further styled, 
in the earliest existing Pipe Roll, circa 1130, 
"'monks of Nottingham" a passage that 
puzzled our old-time local historians. 

A. STAPLETON. 

DEFOE METHODIST CHAPEL, TOOTING (11 S. 
ii. 505). Daniel Defoe died on 24 April, 
1731, in the parish of St. Giles, Cripplegate, 
in which he was born. He was buried in the 
old Nonconformist burying-ground in Bun- 
hill Fields. The inscription on his monu- 
ment reads as follows : 

Daniel De Foe 
Born 1661 
Died 1731 

Author of Robinson Crusoe. 

This monument is the result of an appeal in 
The Christian World newspaper to the boys and 
girls of England for funds to place a suitable 
memorial upon the grave of 

Daniel De Foe. 

It represents the united contributions of seven- 
teen hundred persons. 

September 1870. 

HENRY TAYLOR. 
Birklands, Birkdale, Lancashire. 

Defoe was buried in Bunhill Fields, 
where exists a memorial over his grave 
(see 8 S. iii. 37). This obelisk replaced the 
original gravestone, which, according to an 
engraving in The Illustrated London News 
of 23 October, 1869, was thus inscribed : 
Daniel Defoe 

author of 

Robinson Crusoe 

who died April 24, 1731 

in his 70 th year. 

An engraving of the present memorial 
appeared in The Illustrated Times of 1 Octo- 
ber, 1870. JOHN T. PAGE. 

According to The Balham and Tooting News 
of 24 December, 1910 : 

" The secularization of the Primitive Methodist 
Chapel at Tooting, formerly in the hands of the 
Independents or Congregationalists, has revived a 
number of absurd legends about Daniel Defoe's 
association with Tooting .... The cold truth is 
that Defoe was interred in Bunhill Fields Burial- 
Ground, Finsbury." 

L. L. K. 

[DIEGO and MR. ALAN STEWART also thanked for 
replies.] 

REV. F. W. FABER (11 S. ii. 489). Faber' 
was buried, I think, at the Oratorians' villa 
at Sydenham. I believe I have seen his 
tablet there, but am not sure. 

G. W. E. RUSSELL. 



NAPOLEON AND THE LITTLE RED MAN 
(11 S. ii. 447, 511). For the full story of 
which that given at the latter reference is 
apparently an abbreviation see The Gentle- 
man's Magazine of 1815, part i. pp. 122-3, or 
" The Gentleman's Magazine Library," 
edited by G. L. Gomme, ' English Traditional 
Lore,' &c., 1885, p. 202 et seq. The article 
is signed " Gulielmus." 

The man who overheard what took place 
between Buonaparte and the Red Man was, 
according to Gulielmus, Count Mole (not 
Mole). He is described as " then counsellor 
of State, and since made Grand Judge of the 
Empire." ROBERT PIERPOINT. 

In Heine's ' Deutschland, ein Winter- 
marchen,' written in January, 1844, is an 
interesting reference to the story of the Red 
Man. The passage occurs at the beginning of 
" Kaput VI." : 

Den Paganini begleitete stets 

Ein Spiritus Familiaris, 

Manchmal als Hund, manchmal in gestalt 

Des seligen Georg Harrys. 

Napoleon sah einen roten Mann 

Vorjedem ivicht 'gen Ereignis. 

Sokrates hatte seinen Damon, 

Das war kein Hirnerzeugnis. " 

H. G. WARD. 
Aachen. 

COUNT OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 
(11 S. ii. 509). The Holy Roman Empire 
ceased to exist in 1806, when Francis II. of 
Austria resigned his right to the crown of 
Augustus. See Bryce's ' Holy Roman 
Empire,' Oxford, 1864, p. 153. Those who 
still claim to be Counts of the Holy Roman 
Empire can only do so on the ground of 
direct descent from families holding the 
title previous to 1806, and also as possessing 
in hereditary succession lands and heritages 
formerly embraced within the limits of the 
Holy Roman Empire. W. S. S. 

A Count of the Holy Roman Empire, 
who was formerly only subject to the 
imperial Government is now called " Reichs- 
graf," and is addressed as "Erlaucht." The 
chiefs of these families, called " die Haupter 
der ehemals reichsstandischen graflichen 
Familien," have a high rank at the Prussian 
Court as well as at the other German Courts. 
At the Prussian Court they have a lower 
rank than the Knights of the Order of the 
Black Eagle, the Cardinals, and the chiefs 
of the princely families (" die Haupter der 
fiirstlichen Familien"), but come before 
the vice-presidents of the Ministries of State. 
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Duke of Arenberg takes the highest rank. 
All the civil persons named above have a 
higher rank than a general, but a lower one 
than a field-marshal. H. G. WARD. 

Aachen. 
[MR. HOLDEN MAcMicuAEL also thanked for reply.] 

EMINENT LIBRARIANS : J. G. COGSWELL 
(11 S. ii. 489, 538; iii. 13). Joseph Green 
Cogswell, the original librarian of the Astor 
Library, New York City, brought to this 
country the first copy of Shakespeare's First 
Folio, which he purchased for the Library in 
1849 at the now enviable price of 161. 

It may not be amiss to say here that in 
1895 the Astor and Lenox Libraries, both of 
which had received additional large endow- 
ments from the families of their respective 
founders, were consolidated with the Tilden 
Trust which possessed a fund of over two 
million dollars to form the present New 
York Public Library. The great building, 
for its main occupancy is not yet completed, 
and the Astor and Lenox branches are still 
in their original homes. The number of 
volumes possessed by the consolidated 
libraries is considerably over a million and a 
quarter, not counting more than a quarter 
million of pamphlets. M. C. L. 

New York. 

A " memorial " volume of Cogsw'ell's life 
and labours was written by Anna E. Ticknor, 
and privately printed at Boston, Massachu- 
setts, in 1874. JOHN T. LOOMIS. 

Washington, D.C. 

PAUPER'S BADGE (US. ii. 487). It may 
perhaps be worth remembering that Edie 
Ochiltree, the old beggarman in Scott's 
* Antiquary,' is introduced to the reader as 
wearing a long blue gown with a pewter 
badge on the right arm. This appears to 
have been the usual outward adornment of 
blue-gown beggars in Scotland towards the 
close of the eighteenth century. Originally 
known as " King's Bedesmen," they de- 
generated in course of time into a class of 
recognized mendicants. On the king's birth- 
day each bedesman received a gown or cloak 
of blue cloth. He also wore a large pewter 
badge, fastened to the breast of the gown, 
containing the bearer's name, together 
with the inscription " Pass and Repass." 
At Dundee in 1892 was exhibited, among a 
number of archaeological and historical 
articles, a " Dundee beggar's badge," the 
property of a local gentleman. Every 
king's birthday a new bedesman was added 
to the number, but this practice was dis- 
continued in 1833, at which period there were 



sixty on the roll. In 1860 the number 
had diminished to one. It will be observed 
that the Scottish differed from the English 
badge required under the Act of William III. 

SCOTUS. 

CHARLES FREDERICK HENNINGSEN AND 
KOSSUTH (11 S. ii. 510). There is a short 
account of Henningsen in Appleton's 
' Cyclopaedia of American Biography.' He 
is there stated to have been born in England 
of Swedish parents in 1815, and to have died 
in Washington in 1877. According to the 
same authority he joined the Carlist army 
in 1834 and rose to the rank of colonel, 
served in the Russian army in Circassia, was 
with Kossuth in the Hungarian revolution, 
and went to the United States to represent 
Hungarian interests, was a brigadier-general 
under the filibustering president Walker 
of Nicaragua, and, finally, a brigadier- 
general in the Confederate army. He is said 
to have been an able artillerist, and to have 
devoted much attention to improvements 
in small arms. The titles of several of his 
published works are given. 

EDWARD BENSLY. 

Henningsen seems to have been a soldier 
of fortune. His first published work was 
a book of poetry, ' The Last of the Sophis,' 
issued by Longman in 1830. In 1831 he 
published through the same firm * Scenes 
from the Belgian Revolution.' The title 
implies some participation in Belgian affairs. 
Then comes the work by which he is, on the 
whole, best known, ' The Most Striking 
Events of a Twelvemonth's Campaign with 
Zumalacarregui in Navarre and the Basque 
Provinces,' by C. F. Henningsen, " Captain 
of Lancers in the service of Don Carlos," 
2 vols., Murray, 1836. The book is the best 
account we have of the heroic chieftain, 
whose fall sounded the death-knell of Carlist 
hopes in Spain. Subsequently Henning- 
sen seems to have betaken himself to 
Hungary, where he served under Kossuth. 

W. SCOTT. 

" KEEP WITHIN COMPASS," TAVERN SIGN 
(11 S. ii. 505). In the village of West 
Haddon, Northamptonshire, there is an 
inn known as " The Compass." Up till about 
1860 the following words were displayed 
beneath the sign : 

Keep within Compass, 

And then you '11 be sure 

To avoid many troubles 

That others endure. 

JOHN T. PAGE. 



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"OLD COCK o' WAX" (11 S. ii. 528). 
This expression had no political meaning. 
In the ' Slang Dictionary ' by Sampson 
(Pendragon of The Referee] the expression 
is " cock-a-wax," and is denned as "an 
amplification of the simple term ' Cock,' 
sometimes ' Lad of Wax,' originally applied 
to a cobbler, but now general." Every one 
must have heard the expression " old cocky- 
wax," often so pronounced and written. 

HARRY B. POLAND. 

[MB. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL and SCOTUS also 
thanked for replies.] 

LEAKE AND MARTIN-LEAKE FAMILIES 
(11 S. ii. 528). Stephen Martin-Leakc, 
Garter King-of-Arms, had a family of six 
sons and three daughters. Burke's ' Landed 
Gentry ' omits the names of the children, 
except that of the eldest son. Sarah Martin- 
Leake was probably the Garter King's 
daughter. The dates in the query seem to 
preclude the possibility of any other relation- 
ship. W. S. S. 

See 8 S. vi. 281 ; ix. 323, 463. 

JOHN T. PAGE. 

'TiT FOR TAT,' AMERICAN NOVEL (US. 
ii. 489). About the middle of the last cen- 
tury Hurst & Blackett published a novel 
in three volumes entitled ' Tit for Tat.' 
The author was Mrs. M. E. Smith, about 
whom nothing seems to be known, except 
that another novel, published about 1850, 
stands against her name. I am by no means 
certain that Mrs. M. E. Smith's ' Tit for Tat 
is the novel referred to in the query. More 
than one ' Tit for Tat ' was put before the 
public during last century. Several lady 
authors named Smith appear in the pages 
of Allibone, but he does not seem to have 
been acquainted with the writings of Mrs 
M. E. Smith. W. SCOTT. 

" WINCHESTER QUART " : " CORBYN " 
" CHOPIN " (11 S. ii. 405, 495). I have been 
familiar with the first two terms for thi 
whole of my business life, but have sough 
in vain for an explanation of them. There 
can be no doubt, I think, that " Corbyn ' 
is transferred from the firm of that nam< 
already referred to. The querist spoke of 
" Winchester quart " as indicating a bottle 
of the capacity of eighty -two ounces. 
Whatever may have been the case originally, 
the bottles now so called are of variable 
capacity, and have been so for as long as I 
can remember. A customer will order from 
his wholesale house a large or a small "Win- 
chester," according to his requirements, the 



difference being sometimes as much as- 
wenty ounces (a pint), or even more. 
Generally, however, a " Winchester " is- 
egarded as twice the size of a " Corbyn," the 
apacity of the latter being about forty 
mnces. 

I cannot find either term in any dictionary or 
ther book of reference, but Cassell's ' Encyc. 
Diet.' has : " A Winchester pint, i.e., a quart. 

Seal'd Winchester of threepenny guzzle.' T, 
Brown, ' Works,' ii. 180 ;" arid the ' Century 
Diet.' : " Winchester pint, a measure a 
ittle more than a wine-pint and less than a 
Deer-pint." Winchester measure was formerly 
standard measure. " Winchester pint " is. 
lot often heard now in the drug trade, but I 
:ancy it would not necessarily indicate any 
definite quantity only roughly the size of 
the bottle. C. C. B. 

What W. I. has often enjoyed in Germany 
was, no doubt, a " Schoppen " of Rhenish 
wine. In Fluegel's dictionary the meaning 
of " Schoppen " is given as " scoop, chopin, 
pint " ; but " chopin " is not to be found in 
the English-German part. L. L. K. 

" Chopin," or rather " Chopine," is really 
only a French borrowing from the German 
" Schoppen," which means half a bottle. 
An excellent account of the word is given in 
Grimm's great German dictionary. It is 
not at all uncommon for the French to 
borrow German words connected with 
drinking, as they have done in this case. 

H. G. WARD. 

Aachen. 
[MB. M. L. R. BRESLAR also thanked for reply.] 

MOVING PICTURES TO CINEMATOGRAPHS 
(11 S. ii. 502, 537). Many additions could be 
made to MR. TOM JONES'S excellent note if 
the title was intended to cover all paintings 
with mechanical effects and the repro- 
ductions with movement of scenes. It is 
difficult, however, to realize from the descrip- 
tions on the showmen's handbills if the 
pictures are only working models or actually 
full-sized panoramas. Here are a few 
examples taken at random. 

The " Akolouthorama," painted by G. D. 
! Gibbs, was exhibited at 213, Piccadilly, in 
! 1844. It was a series of scenes to illustrate 
| the Prince de Joinville's Expedition to 
i Mogadore. There evidently were some 
| mechanical effects, as the last picture is 
i described as " Allegorical Picture. Moga- 
i dore, Morning. The French Squadron before 
| the town Bombardment Conflagration 
! and destruction of the City." 



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M. Le Fort & Co. had a " Mechanical and 
Picturesque Cabinet " at 35, Piccadilly, 
circa 1814. " The performance " concluded 
with " A Storm at Sea " : 

" This view is accompanied with all the cha- 
racteristic phenomena, an agitated sea .... clouds 
which, by degrees, obscure the sky. . . .lightning, 
thunder, &c. .... Vessels beating against the 
tempest struck by a thunderbolt, and engulphed 
in the waves ; in fine, the seamen, endeavouring 
to save themselves from the neighbouring rocks, 
offer a faithful representation of nature." 

Marshall's panoramas, exhibited (1823) at 
The Great Room, Spring Gardens, moved. 
His " Grand Historical Perestrephic Pano- 
rama of the Coronation Procession " was 
accompanied by a full military band, 
" finger organ, &c." There must have been 
many similar efforts to give reality by motion 
to panoramas and their predecessors, and 
careful research between 1780 and 1830 
should produce some interesting additional 
data. ALECK ABBAHAMS. 

MB. TOM JONES gives the date of Philip- 
stal's Phantasmagoria as about 1848 (11 S. 
ii. 503, col. 2) ; but it would seem that the 
invention should have been dated nearly 
half a century earlier, as the ' N.E.D.' 
under ' Phantasmagoria ' has the following 
quotation from Brewster's ' Natural Magic,' 
iv. 80, published in 1831 : "An exhibition 
depending on these principles was brought 
out by M. Philipstal in 1802, under the name 
of the Phantasmagoria." A description 
follows similar to that supplied by MB. 
JONES. J. R. THOBNE. 

The meaning of the first correction at the 
second reference is far from clear. It is said 
to apply to "the last sentence in col. 1, 
p. 503." Possibly it is meant to apply 
to the end of the fourth paragraph of that 
column. ROBEBT PIEBPOINT. 

[MR. PIERPOINT is right. The words " of the 
fourth paragraph " should have followed " the 
last sentence."] 

COBN AND DISHONESTY : AN HONEST 
MILLEB (11 S. ii. 508; iii. 12). In Rother- 
ham Churchyard, Yorkshire, is a recumbent 
stone bearing inter alia the following in- 
scription : In 

memory of 

Edward Swair 

who departed this 

life June 16th 1781 

aged 50 years. 

Here lies a man which farmers lov'd 
Who always to them constant proved 
Dealt with freedom just and fair 
An honest miller all declare. 

JOHN T. PAGE. 



The epitaph quoted by MB. LEONABD 
HODSON (ante, p. 13) as American and 
possibly apocryphal is neither the one nor 
the other. A diarist in 1787 saw it in the 
churchyard of Calne, co. Wilts. 

S. H. A. H. 

In the old gleaning days, when the result 
of a month's gleanings had been " rubbed 
out" by hand, or in some cases "flailed" 
on a bedroom floor, the grain was sent to the 
mill for grinding. Often there was wonder- 
ing how it would turn out, for there was a 
saying that the Miller stood with one hand 
on his hopper, the other in your sack. There 
was also another saying which ran : " Take 
an honest butcher's hat, throw it in an 
honest miller's dam, and dry it in an honest 
baker's oven." If such a combination could 
be found, the hat would cure a toothache. 
THOS. RATCLIFFE. 

R's OF SAILOBS (11 S. ii. 527). In the 
muster-book R, meaning " run," was placed 
against the names of deserters : see ' N.E.D.,' 
viii. 81, where a quotation of 1706 gives the 
very phrase "have their R's taken off." 

W. C. B. 

[MB. TOM JONES and W. S. S. also thanked for 
replies.] 

ATJTHOBS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (11 S. 
ii. 488 ; iii. 15). The passage referred to 
by MB. G. W. E. RUSSELL occurs in Charles 
Kingsley's ' Two Years Ago,' at the end of 
the second chapter. 

I do not think it was so much a mis- 
quotation by Kingsley as a purposed adapta- 
tion of the Laureate's lines to suit his own 
prose text. W. B. H. 

[MB. R. A. POTTS also refers to ' Two Years Ago.'] 

INSCBIPTIONS IN CHUBCHES AND CHUBCH- 
YABDS (US. ii. 389, 453, 492, 537). Some 
remarks made on this subject are very much 
to the point. I have for long been interested 
in churchyard inscriptions, thinking they 
have been too much neglected. 

I collected all those in the churchyard of 
High Halden, Kent, and they were printed 
in 1895 (noticed in ' N. & Q.'). 

I transcribed all those in the churchyard 
of Hail sham, Sussex, and gave the volume 
to a resident interested in local history. 

I also transcribed all in the churchyard of 
West Putford, Devonshire, and a fair copy 
of them was placed in the church chest. 

I did the same for the old churchyard 
beyond Ore, Sussex, and the Rector placed 
the collection in the parish chest. 



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The churchyard of St. Mary Redcliff, 
Bristol, is enclosed, and I understood there 
would be objections to the inscriptions being 
transcribed. But I made an exact copy of 
all the inscriptions within this splendid 
church, and gave the volume to Mr. Cross, 
the well-informed head verger. For the 
very lengthy Penn inscription I had to use a 
long ladder, and the verger had the inscrip- 
tion printed so that it could be sold to 
visitors ; and it was printed in ' N. & Q.' also 
(9 S. iv. 285), but has not, I believe, appeared 
in any book. 

In all these cases I was surprised to find 
how perseverance, and the application some- 
times of a sponge with water, enabled words, 
apparently obliterated, to be recovered. 
The remark about keeping the church and 
churchyard inscriptions separate is, I think, 
practical ; and I have long been of the same 
opinion. Church inscriptions generally have 
not been neglected, and numbers of them 
have been entered in county histories, and 
those that have not been recorded are well 
protected. It is the very opposite with 
churchyard inscriptions. They, with few 
exceptions, have not been copied ; they are 
exposed to every form of bad weather, and 
every year defaces some inscriptions. Yet 
they are a curious and interesting class of 
istone records, and numbers of them contain 
information not elsewhere found. Perhaps 
the easiest and most practical method would 
be for some society of good standing to 
agree to be the official custodian of all 
out-of-door mortuary inscriptions in Eng- 
land. Private persons could .then send 
their transcripts to this centre, where they 
would be filed and indexed, and printed if 
opportunity offered. At least they would 
be preserved for reference, &c. L. M. B. 

COWPER'S " GOD MOVES IN A MYSTERIOUS 
WAY" (11 S. iii. 10). This hymn first 
appeared anonymously in the Bev. J. 
Newton's ' Twenty-Six Letters on Beligious 
Subjects, to which are added Hymns, &c., by 
Omicron.' This work was published in 1774. 
The hymns are fourteen in number ; the 
one in question is entitled ' Light shining 
out of Darkness.' It contains six stanzas : 
the fifth, referred to by MR. SURR, runs 
thus : 

His purposes will ripen fast, 

Unfolding every hour ; 
The bud may have a bitter taste, 

But sweet will be the flower. 

It is commonly thought that the hymn was 
composed soon after an attack of suicidal 
mania at Olney in October, 1773, but 



Canon Julian thinks it probable that it was- 
really written about six months afterwards, 
in April, 1774, shortly before publication, 
when the poet's mind had somewhat re- 
covered. The authorship was not disclosed 
until 1779 in the ' Olney Hymns.' 

W. T. LYNN. 

Blaokheath. 

In my copy of the first edition of the 
' Olney Hymns,' published in 1779, this 
appears as Hymn XV. in the third book. 
It is preceded by the letter " C.," indicating 
Cowper's authorship. I understand it wa& 
the last hymn he wrote for his friend 
Newton's collection. There are six verses, 
of which the one referred to by MR. SURR 
is the fifth. It is printed thus : 
His purposes will ripen fast, 

Unfolding ev'ry hour ; 
The bud may have a bitter taste, 
But sweet will be the llow'r. 

JOHN T. PAGE. 
Long Itchington, Warwickshire. 

Julian's ' Dictionary of Hymnology, r 
p. 1642, says that the verse in MS. runs, 
The bud may have a bitter taste, 

But wait to smell the flower. 
In print the last line appeared as 
But sweet will be the flower. 
A reference is given to ' N. & Q.,' 24 Sept. r 
1905. LAWRENCE PHILLIPS. 

[The reference is wrong. It should have been 
to 24 Sept., 1904 (10 S. ii. 244). C. C. B. and MR, 
R. A. POTTS also thanked for replies.] 

'PILGRIM'S PROGRESS' IMITATED (11 S, 
iii. 9). ' The Progress of the Pilgrim Good- 
Intent ' was written by Mary Anne Burges- 
(1763-1813), whose biography is included 
in the ' D.N.B.' The book appeared first 
in 1800, and ran through several editions, the 
tenth appearing in 1822. 

M. A. M. MACALISTER, 

ISOLA FAMILY (US. ii. 525). The testi- 
mony to Agostino Isola's character by 
Henry Gunning has not escaped Mr. E. V. 
Lucas, and is duly recorded by him in the 
* Life of Charles Lamb.' SUSSEX, 

" CAEQEHOUIAS " (US. iii. 9). In place 
of this portentous ghost-word I would 
suggest cacophonias. When the two are 
written side by side, it is easy to see how the 
misprint occurred. EDWARD BENSLY. 

Not having seen the original letter, I 
should "humbly suggest " cacophonies." 

C. J. 



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ir//i8 about Jerusalem. By the Rev. J. E. 
Hanauer. (London Society for Promoting 
Christianity among the Jews.) 

THOUGH written by a missionary and published 
by a missionary society, this is a book of un- 
restricted interest, being, in fact, a learned, 
closely detailed survey of Jerusalem and its 
immediate surroundings, from a point of view 
entirely human, by one who is regarded as the 
chief authority on the folk-lore and topography 
of Palestine. 

Mr. Hanauer is a native of Jerusalem, and has 
spent most of his life there. He has seen ex- 
plorers, excavators, come and go ; has weighed 
their theories, but has kept an open mind. The 
present work, so unpretentious in appearance, is 
the result of the personal investigation and 
research of fifty years ; and, though it purports 
to be little more than a gossiping guide-book for 
the Protestant pilgrim, offers a mine of informa- 
tion to all future writers on Jerusalem. It con- 
tains more curious local knowledge than did the 
author's ' Folk-lore of the Holy Land ' ; which 
is saying much. On the first page we learn the 
reason why the southern and eastern faces of the 
older buildings of the city have an ochre tinge 
" a remarkable shower of yellow mud that fell 
early in February, 1857, plastering the houses 
from top to bottom " ; and every page has its 
touch of personal reminiscence giving life to the 
dry bones of archaeology. 

Mr. Hanauer describes Jerusalem as he first 
remembers it in 1860. In those days there were 
only three houses outside the walls, and those 
quite newly built. "The gates were closed at 
sunset, and also on Fridays " for two hours while 
the garrison was at mosque, and a special permit, 
" not always obtainable," was required before 
one could enter or leave the city : 

" The writer, on several occasions about 1867, 
when he was serving on Sir Charles Warren's 
excavations, had himself lowered by a rope over 
the city wall in order to be at his appointed post 
outside the town. . . .The roadway was unpaved. 
In the rainy season there was a ' slough of des- 
pond ' outside the gateway, and in the open space 
inside, within the city, a pond about one foot 
deep," which could be passed on stepping-stones 
kindly provided by the municipality. " In 
summer the bed of the little lake was encumbered 
with all sorts of filth, and not unfrequently by the 
rotting carcases of dogs, cats, and smaller crea- 
tures." The tannery close to the Church of the 
Holy Sepulchre and the shambles at the entrance 
to the Jewish quarter nuisances preserved by 
the Muslims expressly to annoy the " infidels " 
\\-i-re then still in existence. 

Mr. Hanauer is that most useful of beings, the 
local antiquary, a born lover of things ancient, 
who, in a modest station and with few books of 
reference, has yet, by patience and indefatigable 
industry, made himself completely master of his 
subject. He is acquainted with every stone of 
the city, and knows Hebrew and Arabic tho- 
roughly as modern languages. His descriptions 
of the Haram esh-Sherif (the Temple Area) and 



of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre are the result 
of personal research, and will astonish casual 
writers on those subjects. The book abounds 
in matter worthy of quotation, and by quotation, 
only can we hope to indicate its scope and value ^ 
We choose at random : 

" Christian ^Street is remarkably straight and,, 
for the first part of its course, level, the reason 
being that in that part it passes along the top 
of a huge and very ancient dam or causeway, 
which forms the eastern limit of the Pool of 
Hezekiah. The western side of the dam-top has 
houses built along it ; that is why this remarkable 
specimen of ancient engineering, which is about 
200 ft. long and 50 wide, escapes notice." 

" As we walk through the old bazaars. . . .here 
and there where the white-washed plaster has 
fallen we remark old lettering cut into the stones ;: 
generally a capital T or ' Seta Anna.' The former 
shows that the shops or buildings on which it 
occurs belonged to the Knights Templars, and the- 
latter marks the property of the Crusaders' 
church and nunnery of St. Anne just inside 
St. Stephen's Gate. The new buildings which 
in the last twenty years have been erected by the 
Greeks are in like manner marked with <, the 
monogram of ' taphos,' the Sepulchre." 

"To escape from the throng we turn aside into 
a coffee-shop with a thoroughfare leading right 
through it, an old cruciform church . . . .Tradition 
says that it was built on the site of the house- 
which belonged to Zebedee. The Franciscans 
curiously hold that the reason why St. John was 
known to the high priest was the very simple one 
that the family of Zebedee used to supply the high* 
priest's family with fish from the lake of Gennes- 
areth ; and, as that was at least three days'" 
journey from Jerusalem, the Apostle's parents 
must have had a dwelling and a place of business 
in the Holy City." 

Mr. Hanauer offers a new suggestion as to the 
origin of the Greek ceremony of the Holy Fire. 
Quoting Eusebius, though at second hand, he 
writes : 

" It was on the great Vigils of the Feast of 
Easter, when oil was wanting for the church, and 
the drawers were greatly perplexed, that he 
[Narcissus, Bishop of ^lia Capitolina A.D. 180- 
222] ordered them to draw water from the nearest 
well, which, being consecrated by his prayers, and 
poured into the lamps with sincere faith in the 
Lord, contrary to all reason and expectation, 
by a miraculous and Divine power, was changed 
into the fatness of oil." 

It was Mr. Hanauer who, some years ago, 
succeeded in identifying the Philip D'Aubeny 
whose tombstone is before the doorway of the 
Church of the Sepulchre with Sir Philip D'Aubeny, 
tutor of our Henry TIL In his description of the- 
Mosque El Aksa, in the present work, he writes 
of the so-called " Tomb of the Sons of Aaron " : 
" It marks the last resting-place of some of the 
murderers of Th omas a Becket. . . .Their epitaph,, 
now totally effaced, ran, translated into English, 
thus : ' Here lie the wretches who martyred the 
blessed Thomas, Archbishop of Canterbury.' " 

By way of adverse criticism we must say that 
the book is much too full of learned matter to 
serve its purpose as a simple guide-book for the- 
pious. 



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NICOLAS MORY. We regret to record the death 
on Thursday evening, the 12th inst., at Boulogne- 
sur-Mer, of M. Nicolas Mory. It was to him we 
owed the first notice of the valuable discoveries 
made by M. Magne at Fontevrault, and at the 
time of his death he and his eldest son were taking 
steps to ascertain for us the origin of the copies 
at the Crystal Palace of the effigies from the 
Plantagenet tombs. M. Mory was fond of 
antiquarian pursuits, had a good knowledge of 
the classics, and delighted in quoting Horace. 
He was a friend of Mariette, the French Egypt- 
ologist, and was proud to point out the statue 
of him close to his residence in the Boulevard 
Mariette. 

On the 26th of August, 1905, we had a note 
stating that Nicolas Alexandre Toussaint Mory, 
the grandfather of the subject of this notice, 
brought copies of the Treaty of Peace in 1815 to 
London, for publication in the English press. It 
had appeared in the Moniteur on the 26th of 
November, and within thirty-three hours Mory 
arrived in London with copies of it. The treaty 
appeared the following morning in all the London 
papers, where the French Ambassador read it 
for the first time. It was not until the same 
day that the official news was received at Calais. 

M. Mory will be long mourned by a large circle 
of friends. He had that true courtesy of the 
heart which endears a man to all. 



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CONTENTS.-No. 57. 

NOTES : Lamb, Burton, and Francis Spiera, 61 Gray's 
' Elegy ' : Translations and Parodies, 62 Signs of Old 
London, 64 "First Aerial Ship," 65 Sweetapple sur- 
name" Chartuary " : " Tale " " Hie locus odit, amat," 
&c., 66 "Gourd" or " Goord," Building Term Con- 
spirators of 1582, 67. 

QUERIES : "Tertium Quid " ' Casabianca ' John of 
Cosington, 67 Dickens and " Shallabalah " ' Pickwick ' 
Queries Rev. J. Bonar William of Ware Dryden as a 
Place-Name Early Ships named Victory, 68 Beatrix 
Gordon Bird Quotations Swallow in Greek Carol 
* Farewell to the Swallows 'Bagdad Adders' Fat and 
Deafness Jacobus Clerk Col. Oakes and Queen Caro- 
line's Funeral, 69 Sheffield Plate Dish Newenham 
Abbey Chertsey Cartularies Jeremy Smith Marquis 
of Ormonde's Guard Belfast Registers Irish Book of 
Remembrance Alexander Holmes, 70. 

RE PLIES -.-Milton Bibles, 70-Sophie Dawes Miss 
Wykeham Lady Conyngham ' Young Folks,' 71 T. 
Hare M. G. Drake J. Forsyth-Coryatand Westminster 
School "Elze"= Already Royal Christmases at Glou- 
cester SS. Prothus and Hyacinthus, 72-Guichard 
d'Angle Isaac Jamineau, 73 The Stair Divorce" Die 
in beauty " " All comes out even," &c Holwell Family 
Alexander Glenny Christmas Bough Thackeray and 
the Stage Exhibition of 1851, 74 Early Graduation 
' Kossuth Coppered 'Rev. J. Peacock Andrew Arter's 
Memorial Quaker Oats W. Mears, Bellfounder, 75 
Ship lost in the Fifties Alfleri in England 'Tit for 
Tat' Authors Wanted Riddle of Claret, 76 Water- 
Shoes Arms of Somerset Pitt on Disfranchisement, 77 
Rats and Plague Hackney and Tom Hood Goats and 
Cows" Puckled "- Capt. Witham at Gibraltar, 78. 

NOTES ON BOOKS:-' A Suffolk Hundred in 1283' 
Traherne's Poems More's 'Utopia.' 

Booksellers' Catalogues. 



LAMB, BURTON, AND FRANCIS 
SPIERA. 

IN the third appendix to his * Life of Charles 
Lamb,' 1905, vol. ii. p. 324, Mr. E. V. Lucas 
includes among " the actual volumes which 
Lamb possessed, as described in various 
catalogues," the following : " Springer. 
Relation of the Fearful Estate of Francis 
"Spira. 12mo " ; and adds that the copy 
contains a MS. note, "This Book was written 
by one Springer, a lawyer." As Mr. Lucas 
refrains from any comment on this curiously 
inaccurate ascription, it may be as well to 
show, in the first place, that there was no 
.such a person as " Springer, a lawyer," and, 
secondly, that the man out of whose name 
this phantom has been called up was not the 
author of the above-mentioned book. 

There can, I think, be no reasonable doubt 
that Lamb, if it was he who made the 
memorandum, had drawn an erroneous 
inference from a passage in his favourite 
Burton : 

There is a most memorable example of Francis 
JSpira an Advocate of Padua. A* 1545. that being 



desperate, by no counsell of learned men could 
bee comforted, hee felt as he said, the paines 
of hell in his soule, in all other things hee dis- 
coursed a right, but in this most mad. Fris- 
melica, Bellouat and some other excellent Physi- 
tians, could neither make him eat, drinke," or 
sleepe, no perswasion could ease him. Neuer 
pleaded any man so well for himselfe, as this man 
did against himselfe, and so he desperatly died : 
Springer a Lawyer hath written his life." 
' Anatomy of Melancholy,' 3.4.2.4, pp. 780- 
781, 1st ed., 1621. 

To " Francis Spira " there is a marginal note 
" Goulart." The title of Simon Goulart's 
work in which Spiera' s story can be read is 
' Histoires Admirables et Memorables de 
Nostre Temps.' A second edition of this 
(first vol.) was published at Rouen in 1606. 
The part about Spiera is fol. 120 verso 
125 verso. I suspect, however, that Burton 
had been " tumbling over " an English 
translation, " Admirable And Memorable 
Histories Containing the wonders of our 
time. Collected into French out of the best 
Authors. By I. [sic] Goulart. And out of 
French into English. By Ed. Grimeston," 
London, 1607. This version shares with the 
French editions that I have examined the 
blunder of 1545 for 1548, but shows several 
verbal resemblances to Burton's text : " for 
in all other things he discoursed grauely and 
constantly," p. 188 ; " neyther was there 
euer man heard pleading better for himselfe, 
then Spiera did then against himselfe," 
p. 194 ; " This which is worthy of considera- 
tion among the Histories of our time, is 
drawne out of a discourse published by 
Maister Henrie Scringer [the French has 
"M. Henri Scrimger"], a learned Lawyer," 
p. 196. The learned lawyer was Henry 
Scrymgeour or Scrimger, 1506-72. See 
' D.N.B.' Under the designation of 
; Henricus Scotus " he was the author of 
' Exemplvm Memorabile Desperationis In 
Francisco Spera Propter Abiuratam Fidei 
Confessionem ' on pp. 62-95 of ' Francisci 
Spierse, Qui Quod susceptam semel Euange- 
licse ueritatis professionem abnegasset, dam- 
nassetque, in horrendam incidit despera- 
tionem, Historia A quatuor summis viris, 
summa fide conscripta," &c., Basel, 1550. 
The transition from Scringer to Springer 
may have been hastened by the fact that 
Jakob Sprenger, part author of 'Malleus 
Maleficarum,' figures in Burton more than 
once as Springer. 

Thus far concerning Springer ; but who 
wrote the book in Lamb's library ? This 
work in the earliest edition that I have come 
across (London, 1649) bears the title "A 
Relation Of The Fearful Estate Of Francis 
Spira, In the year 1548. Compiled by 



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Natth. [sic] Bacon, Esq." I have seen 
another edition of 1653. The imprimatur 
is dated December 2, 1637. The writer of 
the life of Nathaniel Bacon (1593-1660. 
in the ' D.N.B.' is clearly wrong when, after 
saying that Bacon " has also been credited 
with the authorship of the curious piece 
(probably a translation) ' A Relation,' " 
&c., and mentioning that the first edition 
was published anonymously in 1638, he 
proceeds : "It was not, apparently, until 
the publication of that of 1665, some years 
after his death, that it was said on the title- 
page to have been ' compiled ' by Nathaniel 
Bacon." With respect to Bacon's sources, 
he plainly states in his preface that his 
work is largely based on the various writers 
in the ' Historia ' : 

" I acknowledge that there hath been formerly 
a Book published in our Mother tongue, con- 
cerning this subject, but as far as I can learn 
(for I could never yet obtain any of them) it 
was nothing so large and various as this present 
Treatise, and as I have heard, a translation of 
only one of the Tractates from whence I have 
gathered this present Discourse in part. Con- 
cerning my care and fidelitie in this businesse, it 
is such as I may truely say without changing of 
colour, that there is not one sentence of all this 
Work attributed unto the person of Spira, but it 
hath its warrant, either from the Epistles of 
Vergerius and Gribaldus, Professours of the Law 
in Padua, or from the discourses of Hen. Scringer 
a Scotish man, Sigismund Gelons [sic] a Tran- 
silvanian, and Mart. Bocha [sic] a Divine of Basil : 
neither have I taken any other libertie then as a 
relation to weave the aforesaid Discourses one 
within another, so as those which under several 
Writers, were before counted several, are now 
by my indeavours reduced into one intire History, 
connexed by due succession of time and occasion." 
Ed. 1653. 

It should be added that the writer of an 
" Introduction " to the book speaks of 
having compared 

" this labour of a worthy Gentleman (who faith- 
fully translated it out of Italian, French and Dutch 
Letters) with the Latine of Codius Secundus 
Curio, Mattheus Gribaldus,. . . .Sigismond Gelous a 
Transilvanian, Henricus Scotus [i.e., the writers 
in the ' Historia '], and find it accord with them." 
Ed. 1653, and at end of ed. 1649. 

The book " formerly published in our 
Mother tongue " I take to be ' A notable and 
maruailous epistle of the famous Doctor, 
Mathewe Gribalde, professor of the law, in the 
vniversity of Padua : concerning the terrible 
iudgement of god, vpon hym that for feare 
of men, denyeth Christ and the knowen 
veritie : uyth a Preface of Doctor Caluine. 
Translated out of Latin intoo English by 
E. A. Anno 1550, in August,' the translator, 
as shown by an acrostical epigram on A v 
verso, was Edward Aglionby. Robert Bur- 



ton's copy of this book is in the Bodleian, 
which also possesses his copy of the 
' Francisci Spierse .... Historia ' of 1550 
mentioned above. EDWARD BENSLY. 



GRAY'S * ELEGY ' : 
TRANSLATIONS AND PARODIES. 

BY the interest in this subject shown in the- 
past by readers of ' N. & Q.,' I am led to 
think that a check-list of the various- 
translations, parodies, and imitations will 
prove useful ; besides, I wish to ask several 
questions which, after working through the 
British Museum and other collections, I ara 
Btill unable to answer. 

I. TRANSLATIONS. 

See 1 S. i. 101, 138, 150, 221, 306, 389 p 
2 S. iii. 88 ; 5 S. iv. 255 ; 6 S. ii. 466 ; 10 S, 
i. 487 ; ii. 92, 175 ; v. 306, 357, 428, 477, 511, 

Armenian. 

Anonymous. In ' Beauties of English Poets,' 
Venice, 1852, pp. 149-77. 

French. 

D. B. In his ' Poesies de Gray, traduites en 
rangais,' Paris, 1797. Reprinted by Le Mierre, 
Paris, 1798. In the * Biogr. universelle,' 1857,. 
xvii. 405, D. B. is identified as M. Dubois, cure" of 
Angers. What is the authority for this ? 

P. Guedon de Berchere. Croydon, Surrey,. 
1788. 

Pierre Jean George Cabanis. When and where- 
was this first published ? 

P. J. Charrin, Paris, 1808. Reprinted by MM, 
Roger, ' Le champ du repos,' Paris, 1816, ii. 401-7,. 
and by Torri, 1817. 

Francois de Chateaubriand. In his ' (Euvres- 
completes,' Paris, 1836, xxiv. 43 ff. 

Marie Joseph de Chequer. Paris, An 13 (1805). 

J. Martin, 1839, erroneously ascribes it to- 
lie Tourneur. Reprinted by Torri, 2nd ed., 1843.. 

Louis Pierre Couret de Villeneuve. According 
to The Literary World, New York, 1849, v. 405,. 
a translation was made by this writer. I have 
not been able to find it. 

Antoine de Cournand. In La Decade Philo- 
sophique. 30 Messidor, 1802, iv. 182-5. 

L. D. Chatham, 1806. Who was he ? 

Dubois. See under D. B., above. 

A. Elwall. Paris, 1887. 

Fayolle. Information desired concerning this; 
Tanslation, which I have not been able to see. 

Gaston. In the ' Petite encyclopedic poe"tique,' 
1804, p. 161. 

Jacques Louis Grenus. In ' Fables diverges,' 
Paris, 1807, ii. 323-30. Was there any earlier- 
edition ? Reprinted by Torri, 1817. 

Alfred J. U. Hennet. In his 'Po^tiqueanglaise,*" 
>aris, 1806, iii. 368-79. 

L. C. Hoyau. In his ' Poe"sies traduites en 
ers francais,' Paris, 1837, 8vo. 

Nicholas le Deist de Kerivalant. In * Al- 
manach des Muses,' Paris, 1797, pp. 147-52- 
Also Paris, 1804. 



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Citizen Kivalant. Same as K^rivalant, q.v. Cf . 
' Bibl. universelle,' Paris, 1858, xxi. 541. 

Le Mierre. See under D. B. above. 

Did Le Tourneur translate the Elegy ? Cf. 
the statement above under Ch^nier. 

Ilippolyte Marvint. In his * Souvenirs de 
college,' Paris, 1840. 

Madame Susanne Curchod de Nasse Necker. 
In her ' Varietes litteraires,' Paris, 1768, iv. 168. 
1 have not been able to see this, and should be 
glad to have the reference verified or corrected. 

.1. Roberts. London, 1875. 

Sapinaud. In ' Le cimetiere et Le printemps 
traduits,' Paris, 1822, 8vo. 

Adrien de Sarrazin. In an appendix to his 
' Quatre printemps de Kleist,' Paris, 1802. 

F. D. V. Paris, 1813. 

Villevielle. Writing to Nicholls on 22 May, 

1770, Gray speaks of a Marquis de Villevielle, 
who, he says, had translated him by way of 
exercise. Was this translation ever published, 
and what poems did it include ? 

German. 

Anonymous. In The Kaleidoscope, Liverpool, 
20 May, 1823, N.S. iii. 372-3. 

Friedrich Wilhelm Gotter. 1771. Information 
desired concerning the first edition. Said to have 
appeared also in the ' Musen Almanach,' but 
I cannot find it there. Also in his ' Gedichte,' 

1771, i. 132-45, and in Torri, 2nd ed., 1813. 
Ludwig Theoboul Kosengarten. In his 

' Gedichte,' Vienna, 1816, i. 123 (I have not seen 
this), and in Torri, 1817. Did this appear in the 
' Musen Almanach ' ? 

William Mason. In Torri, 1817 ; said to have 
appeared in Mason's German translation of 
Gray's works, Leipsic, 1776. Information desired 
concerning this work, which is not listed in Kayser 
and is not in the British Museum. 

Niclas Muller. New York, 1874. In the 
Boston Public Library. 

Johann Baptist Bupprecht. In his ' Poetical 
Translations from the English,' Part I., Vienna, 
1812, pp. 62-8. Have not seen this. Reprinted 
in Torri, 2nd ed., 1843. 

Johann Gottfried Seume. In his ' Collected 
Poems,' Riga, 1801, which 1 have not seen. Any 
earlier edition ? Did it appear in the ' Musen 
Almanach ' ? It is in his ' Sammtliche Werke,' 
Leipsic, 1826, i. 6-12 and v. 16-22. 

Greek. 

Giosafatte Cipriani. In Torri, 1817. Not in 
Tom's 2nd ed., 1843. Did it appear earlier ? 

William Cooke. Cambridge, 1785. 

Charles Coote. London, 1794. 

George Denman. Cambridge, 1871. 

J. Norbury. Eton. 1793. There was also a 
2nd ed. in the same year. 

John Plumptre translated the Epitaph only, 
and appended it to his ' Ecloga sacra Alexandr 
Pope,' Wigorniffi, 1795. 

Bowyer Edward Sparke. London, 1794. 

Edward Tew. London, 1795. 

Richard Ward. In hia ' Celebria quaedam 
Anglorum poemata latine reddita,' London 
1860, pp. 79-97. 

Stephen Weston. London, 1794. 

Hebrew. 

Giuseppe Venturi. In Torri, 1817 and 1813 
in the 2nd ed. in Roman letters. 



Rossi Janos. 



Hungarian. 
Rome, 1827. 



Italian. 

Paolo Giuseppe Baraldi. Modena, Societa 
fipografica, 1816. I have not seen this. 

Antonio Buttura. In La Domenica (according 
;o Torri) ; then in his ' L'arte poetica di Boileau 
Despre'aux recata in versi italiani,' Paris, 1806, 
p. 130-36. I have seen only the latter. 

Michel Angelo Castellazzi. In Torri, 1817. 
Did this appear earlier ? 

Francesco Cavazzocca. Verona, 1835. Re- 
printed in Torri, 2nd ed., 1843. 

Melchiorre Cesarotti. Padua, 1772. 

Abbate Crocchi. In Sleator's edition, Dublin, 
1775, pp. 153-66. 

Giuseppe Gennari. Padua, Comino, 1772. 

J. Giannini. 2nd ed., London, 1782. When 
did the 1st ed. appear ? 

Domenico Gregori. In ' Scelta di ppesie di 

u celebri autori inglesi, recati in versi italiani," 
Rome, 1821, vol. i., which I have not seen. 

Agostino Isola. Cambridge, 1782. In the- 
Astor Library, New York. 

Marco Lastri. Florence, Molike, 1784. I have 
not seen this. Reprinted in Torri, 1817. 

Michele Leoni. Turin, Pomba, 1815. I have 
not seen this. Reprinted in Torri, 2nd ed., 1843. 

Lorenzo Mancini. In his ' Saggio sull' uomo e 
Lettera d' Abelardo ad Eloisa of Pope,' Florence, 
1835, which I have not seen. Reprinted in Torri, 
2nd ed., 1843. 

Angelica Palli. 1874. This is mentioned by 
Teza in Nuova Antoloc/ia, 3rd Ser. xxiii. 363. 
Where was it published ? 

Elisabetta Sesler Bond. In ' La morale inglese,' 
Venice, 1815, pp. 65 ff. This reference is from 
Torri, who reprints the translation in his 2nd ed.,. 
1843. 

Martin Sherlock. 1779 ? Cf. 10 S. ii. 92. 

E. Teza. In Nnova Antologia, 3rd ser. xxiii.. 
363-8, 16 Sept., 1889. 

Giuseppe Torelli. Verona, Carattoni, 1776. 

Domenico Trant. In Torri, 1st ed., 1817. 

Taddeo Wiel. In his ' Versioni da Thomas 
Gray, John Keats, Lord Byron, Percy Bysshe- 
Shelley, Robert Browning,' Venice, 1906. 

Giacomo Zanella. In his ' Varie version! 
poetiche,' Florence, 1887. 

Japanese. 

In ' Shintaishi-Sho ' (' Poems in New Style ')- 
Tokio (? ), 1882. I should be glad of further infor- 
mation concerning this. 

Latin. 

Anonymous. ' Gray's Elegy rendered into- 
Latin Elegiacs.' Oxford, James Parker & Co.,. 
1876. 

Christopher Anstey and William Hayward 
Roberts. Cambridge, University Press, 1762. 
Published anonymously. 

Giovanni Francesco Barbieri. In Torri, 1st 
ed., 1817. 

Benedetto del Bene. Verona, Mainardi, 1817. 

W. A. Clarke. Oxford, Blackwell, 1904. 

Sir Alexander J. E. Cockburn, Lord Chief 
Justice. About 1871. Reprinted Boston, Dort- 
man, 1900. 

Giovanni Costa. Padua, Comino, 1772. 



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J. D. In ' Musse Berkhamstedienses,' Berk- 
Ihamsted, McDowall, 1793. Has this translator 
been identified ? 

Henry Strahan Dickinson. Ipswich, Deck, 
1849. 

H. J. Dpdwell, 1884. Information desired 
concerning it ; how does it begin ? 

S. N. E. London, 1824, 4to. Who was the 
translator ? 

Antonio Evangelj. Padua, 1772. I have not 
seen this. 

C. C. Felton. London, Longman, 2nd ed., 
1822. When was the iirst edition published ? 

G. In The Gentleman's Magazine, 1793, Ixiii. 
69, 166, 261, 360. Who was he ? 

G[avin] H[amilton]. Edinburgh, Douglas & 
Foulis, 1877. 

D. B. Hickie. 1823, 8vo. Not in the British 
Museum. At 10 S. i. 487 this is said to be re- 
ferred to in The Classical Journal, xxviii. 377 ; 
the reference seems to be wrong. 

William Hildyard. London, 1838, 12mo. 
Not in the British Museum. 

Kobert B. Kennard. Oxford, Parker, 1892. 

Benjamin Hall Kennedy. In his ' Between 
Whiles,' London, Bell, 1877, and in ' Sabrinaj 
Corolla,' 4th ed., London, Bell, 1890. 

R. Langrishe, Eton' College. In Gray's 
Works,' ed. Mason, London, 1775, ii. 205-13. 

Robert Lloyd. In his ' Poems,' London, 1762, 
pp. 239-57. " Also in Gray's ' Poems,' Dublin, 
1768, pp. 115-25. 

John Heyrick Macaulay. In ' Arundines Cami,' 
1841. 

H. A. J. Munro. Privately printed, 1874. 

Murphy. Mentioned by Torri, 2nd ed., 1843, 
p. xv. More information desired. 

Sidney George Owen. In ' Musa Clauda,' 
Clarendon Press, 1898. 

J. Pycroft, Brighton, 1879, 8vo. Not in the 
'British Museum. What is the first line ? 

Henry T. Liddell, Earl of Ravens worth. 
Neither this nor the following is. in the British 
Museum. Information desired. 

H. Sewell. 1875. Where published ? Or is 
the edition cited by Bradshaw (p. 316), Romford, 
1876, the only one published ? 

P. B. Shelley translated the Epitaph. Printed 
in Medwin's ' Life of Shelley,' 1808 (?), i. 48. 

Canon Sheringham. 1901. I have not seen 
this. 

Goldwin Smith translated stanzas 1-3 and 
the rejected stanza beginning " Hark, how the 
-sacred calm," in ' Anthologia Oxoniensis,' 
London, 1846. 

Giuseppe Venturi. In Torri, 1st ed., 1817. 

Gilbert Wakefield. Cambridge, Archdeacon, 
1776. 

C. A. Wheelwright. In his ' Poems, Original 
.and Translated,' 2nd ed., 1811, ii. 67-78. Date 
of 1st ed. ? At 10 S. i. 487 said to be referred to in 
The Classical Journal, xi. 675 ; the reference is 
apparently wrong. 

J. Wright. London, T. Lewis, 1786. I have 
not seen this. 

I lately saw a translation (' T. Graii Elegeia 
Latine redditum ') which began " Devexum 
cecinere diem pulsa ara, boumque." The English 
and the Latin occupied pp. 4-21 of some pam- 
-phlet or book. Can any one tell me whose version 
this is and where it appeared ? Quite probably 
:it is one of those noted above. 



Portuguese. 

Anonymous (?). Four lines quoted in The 
Gentleman's Magazine, 1839, N.S. xii. 470. 

Antonio de Aracejo. According to 1 S. ii. 306,. 
said to have been privately printed at Lisbon 
toward the close of the eighteenth century. Can 
some one give the exact date ? Reprinted by 
Boulard in ' Traductions inter lin^aires,' Paris, 
1802. 

H. E. Almeida Coutinho Porto, 2nd ed., 1837. 
Date of 1st ed. ? 

Russian. ' 

V. A. Zhukovsky. In Vieslnik Evropy, Decem- 
ber, 1802, part vi. 319-25. Can any one supply 
information concerning Zhukovsky's second trans- 
lation, made in 1839 ? Cf. 10 S. v. 357. 

Spanish. 

Anonymous (?). Referred to in The Gentleman's 
Magazine, 1839, N.S. xii. 470. 

Jos6 Antonio Miralla. Privately printed. 
1904(?). A copy is in the Boston Public Library. 

Welsh. 

D. Davies. Caerfyrddin, I. Evans, 1798. 
T. J. Thomas. Llandyssul, J. D. Lewis, 1908. 

Excluding the last one mentioned in the 
Latin group, the number of translations notec 
above -is : Armenian, 1 ; French, 22 ; Ger- 
man, 7 ; Greek, 10 ; Hebrew, 1 ; Hungarian, 
1 ; Italian, 21 ; Japanese, 1 ; Latin, 35 
Portuguese, 3 ; Russian, 1 ; Spanish, 2 
Welsh, 2. Total, 107. 

CLARK S. NORTHUP. 

Munich. 

(To be continued.) 



SIGNS OF OLD LONDON. 
(See 11 S. i. 402, 465 ; ii. 323.) 

THE subjoined list of signs is compiled from 
the original MS. treasury books (i.e., the 
wardens' accounts) of one of the minor City 
companies, c. 1530-1704. 

Temp, circa Henry VIII. and Edward VI. 
Rose, Coleman Street. 
St. John's Head, Gracious Street. 
Star, Cheapside (" Sterre in Chepe "). 
Cardinal's Hat [? Lombard Street]. 
Three Tuns at Guildhall Gate. 
Stocks Tavern [in the Stocks Market]. 
? Nag's Head (" Horsehed "), Cheapside. 
Dagger, Cheapside (" Dagar in Chepe "). 
Bull's Head, Cheapside (" Bullhed in Chepe "). 
Cross, Tower Street. 
Dolphin, Tower Street. 

? Snipe, Eastcheap (" Snytte in estchepe "), 
George, Bread Street. 
Red Lyon (no place named). 
Gun (" Gonne "), Billingsgate. 
Castle, Paternoster Row. 
White Horse, Friday Street. 
Grey hound, ^Fleet Street. 



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Temp. Elizabeth. 

Mitre, Bread Street. 

Bishop's Head, Lombard Street. 

Bell, Fish Street. 

Mermaid, Bread Street. 

Castle, Wood Street. 

Star, Cheapside (" Star in Cheape "). 

Dolphin, New Fish Street. 

Saracen's Head [? Snow Hill]. 

King's Head, Old Change.* 

George, Bread Street. 

Pope's Head, Lombard Street. 

Bell, Aldgate. 

White Horse (no locality). 

Boar's Head, Old Fish Street. 

Boar's Head, Eastcheap. 

Nag's Head, Cheapside ("horsse hedd in Cheape "). 

Swan, Crooked Lane. 

King's Head, Fish Street. 

Three Tuns, Guildhall Gate.f 

Chequer, Dowgate. 

Greyhound, Leadenhall. 

Parse, Old Bailey. 

King's Head, Old Change. 

Red Lion, St. Nicholas Shambles. 

Mitre, Bread Street Hill. 

Snipe, Eastcheap (" Snyte, Eastchepe "). 

Mermaid, Friday Street. 

Temp. James I. 
King's Head, Old Change. 
Boar's Head, Eastcheap. 
Maidenhead, Candlewick Street. 
Windmill, Coleman Street. 
Queen's Head, Queenhithe. 
Rose at Queenhithe. 
Dolphin (no place named). 
Sun, at Cripplegate. 
White Horse (as before). 
Mermaid, Bow Lane. 
Flying Horse (locality unspecified). 

Temp, diaries I. 
Rose and Crown (no place). 
Nag's Head Tavern, Cheapside. 
Castle Tavern [? Lad Lane]. 
Dagger, Friday Street. 
Ship Tavern, Old Bailey. 
Dog Tavern at Ludgate. 
Rose, Temple Bar. 
Sun Tavern, Milk Street. 
Goat, Long Lane. 

Temp. Charles II. 
King's Arms, Newgate Street. 
Coffee Bourse, Temple Bar. 
Rose Tavern, Poultry. 
Dog Tavern, Garlick'lTill. 
George, Ironmonger Lane. 
Angel, Old Change. 
George, Milk Street. 
Half Moon, Cheapside. 
Mitre, Cheapside. 
Sun, Milk Street. 



* This house belonged to the Company. 

t Between this and the earlier reference occurs 
mention of the " 3 Tonnes at Olde hawle gate " ; 
later we have the " Thre Tonnes att Gyld havle." 



Temp. James II. 

Swan Tavern, Old Fish Street. 
Sun Tavern, behind the Exchange. 
Golden Lyon, Fetter Lane. 
Crooked Billet, Maiden Lane. 
King's Head, Fleet Street. 
Dolphin, Lombard Street. 
King's Arms, Cateaton Street. 
Crown Tavern, Leadenhall Street. 
Castle, Paternoster Row. 
Crown, Honey Lane Market. 

Temp. William and Mary, 

Queen's Arms [? Newgate Street]. 

Old Dog Tavern (no place). 

Cock Alehouse (ditto). 

Wonder Tavern (ditto). 

Cross Keys Tavern, Holborn. 

Horn Tavern, Fleet Street. 

Three Tuns, Newgate Street. 

Bell, Bread Street. 

Bull Head [sic], Wood Street. 

Feathers, Cheapside. 

Dean's Head [St. Martin's-le-Grand], 

Rummer, Queen Street. 

Dog, Newgate. 

Swan, Dowgate. 

Horn Tavern, Doctor's Commons. 

Feathers Tavern (ditto). 

Mitre Tavern, Paul's Church Yard. ' 

Ship Tavern (no locality). 

King's Head, Old Exchange. 

Baptist Head [? Clerkenwell]. 

Crown Tavern, Guildhall. 

From the nature of the references to the 
signs it would appear that all, or nearly 
all of them, were taverns or other houses of 
refreshment ; beyond this the records yield 
no further information, so far as the great 
majority of the signs are concerned. While 
the arrangement of the list is from first to- 
last purely chronological, it seems advisable 
to add a note of caution in regard to the 
division into regnal periods, the latter being 
merely approximate, and making no allow- 
ance for overlapping. 

WILLIAM McMuRRAY. 



" FIRST AERIAL SHIP." In these days of 
improved, though still dangerous aeronautics >. 
I would call attention to an advertisement 
put forth by the European Aeronautical 
Society, and printed in The A.thenceum r 
pp. 573, 589, 25 July and 1 August, 1835 : 
'"FIRST AERIAL SHIP. The Eagle, 160 feet 
long, 50 feet high, 40 feet wide, manned by a 
Crew of Seventeen, constructed for establishing: 
direct Communications between the several 
Capitals of Europe. The First Experiment of 
this New System of AERIAL NAVIGATION will be 
made from London to Paris and back again. 
May be viewed from Six in the Morning till Dusk, 
in the Dock Yard of the Society, at the entrance 
of Kensington, Victoria-road, facing Kensington 
Gardens, between the First Turnpike from Hyde 
Park Corner and the Avenue to Kensington. 



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Palace. Admittance every day of the week, Is. 
The Public is admitted on Sundays after Divine 
Service. Free Admission the whole year (Sun- 
days and Holidays included) for Members of the 
Society and their Friends." 

This looks rather like a hoax. One does 
not see how the ship could be intended to 
travel from city to city, and yet be on 
exhibition the whole year at Kensington. 
The advertisement may have been suppressed 
.after the second date named, on this account. 
RICHARD H. THORNTON. 

36, Upper Bedford Place, W.C. 

SWEETAPPLE SURNAME. The surname 
Sweetapple (see ante, p. 3) occurs in the 
oldest remaining -Episcopal Register of 
Chichester, that of Bishop Robert Rede. 
Richard Swetappell, Swetappull, or Swet- 
appyll (the name is thus variously spelt), 
was a vicar-choral in the Cathedral, and was 
ordained priest by Rede on St. Matthew's 
Day, 1398, at the presentation of the Priory 
of Boxgrave (now Boxgrove). He attended 
the Bishop's Visitations of the Cathedral in 
1397 and 1409. At the former a complaint 
was lodged against him, Philip Goldston, 
-and Richard Juldewyn, " that they are too 
quarrelsome and pugnacious." They are 
warned to behave better in future under 
penalty of 20d. to be applied to the common 
fund of the vicars. In 1407 he has become a 
notary public by Apostolical authority, and 
subscribes as such to the formal election of 
Dean Hasele in that year. He was employed 
&t Boxgrave in 1409 on the election of a 
Prior there. 

In the churchwardens' accounts of St. 
Edmund and St. Thomas, Sarum (Salisbury, 
1896), I note the following : 

1586/7, p. 134. For pewes. It'm for James 
Swrebaples 12d. 

1587/8, p. 136. James Swete Apple for mending 
of a pin and nayles 5d. [Other items follow.] 

1624/5, p. 181. Sam Sweetapple and his 
partner for iiij days sawinge of Timber 9s. 4of. 

[Other items.] 

The name is to be found in the ' Clergy 
List ' of the present year. CECIL DEEDES. 
Chichester. 

" CHARTUARY " : " TALE." W. Rastell 
in 1534 printed in Fleet Street 

" these xii. bookes, that ys to wyt Natura 
breuium, The olde tenures, Lyttylton tenures, 
"The new talys, The artycles upon the new talys, 
Dyuersyte of courtys, Justyce of peas, The 
chartuary, Court baron," &c. 

The book with the inviting title ' The new 
talys ' turns out to be ' Noue narrationes,' 
and the following book is the ' Articuli ad 
narrationes nouas pertinentes formati.' The 



' Chartuary ' (pp. 361-89) is a collection of 
precedents of charters, bonds, acquittances, 
and the like. I note these words for the 
Supplement to the ' N.E.D.' Q. V. 

" HlC LOCUS ODIT, AMAT," &C. 111 

* Variorum in Europa Itinerum Delicise,' 
collected by Nathan Chytrseus, 2nd ed., 1599, 
s.v. ' Brixiana,' p. 254, is the following : 

In Palatio Capitanei. 

Hie locus odit, aniat, punit, conservat, honorat, 
Nequitiem, pacem, crimina, jura, probos. 

Exactly the same words appear in ' Select ae 
Christian! Orbis Delicise,' by Franciscus 
Sweertius (Sweerts), 1608, p. 177, s.v. 
' Brixiana,' probably copied from Chytrseus. 
Each verb governs the substantive lying 
under it. 

I find almost the same lines in an old 
commonplace book, viz:, 
Hsec domus odit, amat, punit, conservat, honorat, 

Nequitiam, pacem, crimina, jura, probos. 

In this extract from some newspaper or 
book (no date, probably put in some 60 
years ago) it is said that they " may be 
read in front of the Town-hall in Leipsic." 

The lines according to the Chytraeus 
version, excepting that the words " Nequi- 
tiam, leges," take the place of "Nequitiem, 
pacem," are given in Murray's ' Handbook 
for Travellers in Central Italy,' 9th ed., 
1875, p. 184. There they are said to be 
behind, and above, the seats of the judges 
in the court of the Podesta in the Palazzo 
Pretorio in Pistoia. 

Baedeker's ' Handbook for Northern 
Italy,' 7th ed., 1886, p. 370, confirms 
Murray's book, and gives 1507 as the date 
of the inscription. 

I have found no mention in either Murray 
or Baedeker of the lines as existing at either 
Brescia or Leipsic. Probably they were 
frequently used as an epigram in courts of 
justice. 

I add another version which I had noted 
but forgotten : 
Hsecce domus dat, amat, pmrit, conservat, honorat, 

JEquitiam, pacem, crimina, jura, bonos. 1620. 

i.e., 

This court does right, loves peace, preserves the 

laws, 
Corrects the wrong, honours the righteous cause. 

This epigram (presumably in the Latin only) 
is given as an inscription on the sessions 
house at Spittle-in-the-Street (Line.) in 
Stephen Whatley's ' England's Gazetteer,' 
1751. 

It may be that there are other versions 
of the epigram in other places. 

ROBERT PIERPOINT. 



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" GOUBD " OB " GOOBD," BUILDING TERM. 

I have recently encountered this word 
in West Cornwall on some tendering for 
stonewalling, the prices given being so 
much a " gourd." From inquiry I find that 
by this term is meant a run of 9 feet by 5 feet 
high ; but a few miles off the measurement 
varies. The word is new to me, and I do 
not find it in the ' E.D.D.' YGBEC. 

CONSPIRATORS OF 1562. There seems 
nothing to add to the excellent account of 
Arthur and Edmund Pole in the ' D.N.B.,' 
except that it would seem that they were 
arrested at " The Dolphin Inn," which 
was apparently close to St. Olave's steps on 
the south side of London Bridge, and not, 
as is there stated, " near the Tower." 

As to the other four conspirators arrested 
with them, (1) Anthony Fortescue has been 
the subject of much interesting and erudite 
discussion at 9 S. vii. 327, 435 ; viii. 73, 
449 ; ix. 53. He probably died in the 
Tower. (2) Of Humphrey Berwick I can 
discover nothing. (3) and (4) Anthony 
Spencer and Richard Bingham were liberated 
from the Tower 3 May, 1567 (Dasent, ' Acts of 
the Privy Council,' vii. 351). 

Each of the two astrologers and wizards 
who had gone abroad 10 October, 1562, four 
days before their fellow-conspirators were 
captured, is described in the indictment as 
" late of London, gentleman." It seems 
probable, however, that the conspirator 
Edward Cosyn is to be identified with 
Edward Cussen, clerk, a fugitive, who 
possessed the manor of Eyrtforde alias 
Eyrthford in Bedfordshire, and is men- 
tioned in the Appendix to the 38th Report 
of the Deputy Keeper of the Public Records 
at p. 10, and in Strype's ' Annals,' II. ii. 
597. Presumably he died abroad. 

John Prestall, the other astrologer, seems 
to have been inveigled into England in the 
early part of 1572. An indictment was 
drawn up against him in that year, but he 
was not brought to trial, though he was 
committed to the King's Bench, whence 
he was liberated on bail in 1574. It appears 
from the Appendix to the 38th Report at 

LI 2, and from Strype, II. ii. 596, that 
had been possessed of lands in Surrey. 
He was attainted in 1578 or 1579, and was 
in the Tower from before 11 October, 1578, 
down to 22 July, 1588, when he was liberated. 
He seems to have been living in London, 
practising sorcery, in 1591. His pretence 
to be 

" next heir to the Poles, who are next in blood to 
the Queen, whereof one is dead, and the other in 



Spain, who is next heir to the crown, and whom 
the Queen once promised to make kn.^wn as 
heir apparent," 

was all nonsense. Is it known when he died 
and who his parents were ? (See Dasent, 
op. cit., viii., x., xi., xii. ; the Calendars of 
State Papers ; and Cath. Rec. Soc., ii. and 
iii.) JOHN B. WAINEWBIGHT. 



WE must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to. affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 



"TEBTIUM QUID." I shall be glad of 
any information as to the original use of 
this phrase. I have been greatly surprised 
to find that no example of it has been sent 
to us before 1826, and still more to find that 
this is also the earliest date in ' The Stan- 
ford Dictionary of Anglicised Words and 
Phrases.' There is, indeed, something 
similar in Coleridge's Friend of 1809-10, 
where he says, " The baleful product or 
tertium aliquid of this union retarded the 
civilization of Europe for centuries " ; but 
these seem to be the earliest examples yet 
found. Some metaphysicians appear to 
have used it to indicate a supposed 
something that is neither subjective nor 
objective, or different from both mind and 
matter, and it may perhaps have arisen 
in a Latin treatise on metaphysics. I am 
informed that a current statement attributing 
the phrase to Pythagoras is an error. The 
Latin version of Iambi ichus has, not tertium 
quid, but tertia res. I hope that some reader 
of *N. & Q.' can furnish earlier examples, 
and can help us in tracking tertium quid to its 
fontem et originem. J. A. H. MURRAY. 
Oxford. 

c CASABIANCA.' When and where was 
this poem first printed ? In his notice of 
Mrs. Hemans in the 'D.N.B.,' Mr. C. W. 
Sutton says that " in the second edition of 
the * Forest Sanctuary,' 1829, ' Casabianca ' 
first appeared." This, however, is a mis- 
bake, as it was printed at p. 129 vol. i. of 
Mrs. Hemans's ' Poems,' published at Boston 
in 1826. ALBERT MATTHEWS. 

Boston, U.S. 

JOHN OP COSINGTON. Cosington is the 
name of a village in Lincolnshire. Do you 
know a family of this name, and especially 
John of Cosington, who lived during the 
fourteenth century ? 

EDME DE LAURME. 
Soignies. 



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DICKENS : ' OLD CURIOSITY SHOP,' CHAP. 
xvi. : " SHALL ABALAH." When the old 
man and child first met Messrs. Codlin and 
Short, the persons of the Punch drama 
were scattered upon the ground. They 
included 

"the foreign gentleman, who, not being familiar 
with the language, is unable in the representation 
to express his ideas otherwise than by the utterance 
of the word * Shallabalah ' three distinct times." 

I have not seen any explanation of this 
foreign piece of lingo. Can it be an echo 
of the " Ma sh' Allah ! A'uz bi' llah ! " of 
Arab criers to proclaim a marvel ? At 
shadow-shows in Egypt I have heard the same 
words shouted by the Mutayyab (hired leader 
of applause) at moments when an afrit or a 
dreadful monster conies on the scene. Many 
of the tramping showmen of Europe were 
at one time Orientals of a kind ; I want to 
know if any Arabic pious formulas were part 
of their jargon. MABMADTJKE PICKTHALL. 
5, Chimneys, Buxted. 

' PICKWICK ' QUERIES. I shall be very 
much obliged for explanations of the mean- 
ing of the following phrases in Pickwick : 

1. Flying the garter. 

2. Punch and the flat-headed comedian 
and the tin box of music. 

3. Green-foil smalls. 

PHILIP STEPHENS ON. 

[1. A game played by boys, at which they measure 
a distance by feet from a mark, and jump over the 
back of another boy bending down. Also known as 
" footit." 

2. Close- fitting knee-breeches in tinsel ?] 

REV. J. BONAR, 1646 : MORETTI FAMILY. 
1. In the Scottish register known as ' the 
Retours ' (a register of those served heirs to 
deceased relatives) I find under date 
9 December, 1646, John Bonar senior of 
Lumquhat (in Fifeshire) served heir to 
" Master Henry Bonar, Vicaj of St. Martin's 
in-the-Fields, London." I can find his 
name in none of the registers of that church, 
nor in any account of the Church. Can 
any of your readers assist me in tracing his 
name and the date of his appointment, and 
supply any information about him ? There 
can be no doubt as to the fact of his being 
vicar. 

2. In 1816 Agnes Bonar, daughter of 
Thomson Bonar of Camden Place and 
Chiselhurst, Kent, was married to Count 
Moretti, and in 1820 there was a son born 
of the marriage. From the ' Annuario della 
Nobilta Italiana ' I get the following infor- 



mation under ' Sormani-Moretti.' This 
family was a branch of the ancient Lombard 
family of Sormani, which went to Reggio 
Emilia in 1699, and succeeded to the name 
and arms of the noble family of Moretti. It 
received the title of Count on 25 November, 
1776. The noble man bearing the title on 
17 January, 1833, was Patrizo of Reggio. 

I am anxious to get further information 
as to this family and to know if there is any 
descendant living. HORATIUS BONAR. 
3, St. Margaret's Road, Edinburgh. 

WILLIAM OF WARE. I understand that 
some passages from this author's work on 
the ' Sentences ' have been printed recently 
in a book on the Immaculate Conception 
B.V.M., and shall be very glad to be referred 
to the title, &c., of the book. Is it in the 
Bodleian Library ? Q. V. 

DRYDEN AS A PLACE - NAME. John 
Dryden of Canons Ashby, Northants, the 
father of Sir Erasmus Dryden, 1st Bt., is 
stated to have migrated from Cumberland. 
In 1488-9 John, William, and Archibald 
Drydane received the royal pardon for having 
fought against King James IV. They are 
described as " indwellers within the shire of 
Roxburgh." It seems probable that the 
Drydens of Cumberland came over the 
border, as Dryden is a place-name in Scot- 
land. 

I find mentioned John Sinclair of Drydenr 
Kt., under date 1513, and a Sinclair occurs 
there again in 1551. In 1713 George Lock- 
hart writes from Dryden to the Earl of Ox- 
ford. I shall be glad of any information 
relative to Dryden as a place-name. 

P. D. M. 

THE VICTORY : EARLY SHIPS OF THE 
NAME. I shall be obliged for any informa- 
tion relating to the following : 

1. Date of construction of the Victory 
which was lost off the Caskets, 4 October, 
1744. The United Service Museum and 
Greenwich Hospital possess models said 
to be of this ship, but they differ ; another 
model, with the same pretension, differs 
from both. Would one or more models 
have been made before construction. Char- 
nock mentions a Victory as first heard of at 
Portsmouth in 1703, taken to pieces in 
1-721. Is anything known of this ship ? 

2. At what date did the bowsprit cease to 
terminate in a top and carry a spritsail mast 
and jacks taff ? 



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F 3. What improvements, if any, were 
introduced in the construction of ships-of- 
war between 1714 and 1727 ? AITCHO. 

[The second and third queries are too technical 
for discussion in our columns. We should advise 
application to Prof. Sir J. K. Laughton, the Secre- 
tary of the Navy Records Society, King's College, 
Strand, W.C.] 

BEATRIX GORDON=ROBERT ARBUTHNOT. 
I should be very grateful if any one 
could tell me who was the father of Beatrix 
Gordon. She married Robert Arbuthnot 
of Scots Mills, and was the grandmother 
of the celebrated Dr. John Arbuthnot. 
Both she and her husband are buried 
in the churchyard of St. Fergus, about six 
miles from Peterhead. I have been informed 
that she was the daughter of Robert Gordon 
of Pitlurg, but I cannot see any mention of 
her in that pedigree. 

CECIL LISTER KAYE. 

Denby Grange, Wakefield. 

BIRD QUOTATIONS. I shall be glad to 
learn the authors of the following : 

1. Speckled, mellow-throated thrush. 

2. Sweet thrush, whose wild untutored strain. 

3. Farewell, sweet bird ! Thou still hast been (willow 

warbler). 

4. Each spangled back (sunbird). 

5. Welcome, dear swallow, to thy well-known nest- 

6. As I was walking all alone, I heard two corbies. 

7. Say, weary bird, whose level flight (crow). 

8. Thou shrill proclaimer of the lonely hour (owl). 

M. SEATON. 

[6. A well-known ballad, 'The Twa Corbies,' 
first printed in Scott's ' Minstrelsy '] 

SWALLOW IN GREEK CAROL. Who was 
the translator into English of the following 
Greek carol ? 

The swallow, the swallow, she does with her bring, 
Soft seasons, &c. 

M. SEATON. 

* FAREWELL TO THE SWALLOWS.' A poem 
entitled ' Farewell to the Swallows,' attri- 
buted to Thomas Hood, was referred some 
twelve years ago to Canon Ainger, who 
expressed great dubiety that Hood was its 
author. It would be gratifying to know 
by whom it was written if not by Hood. 
The first stanza begins : 

Swallows sitting on the eaves, 
See ye not the falling leaves ? 
See ye not the gathered sheaves ? 
Farewell ! 

T. F. DWIGHT. 
La Tour de Peilz, Vaud,' Switzerland. 



BAGDAD. Has the Iranian or Old Persian 
origin of the name of Bagdad, first advanced 
by Fr. Spiegel (author of ' Eranische Alter- 
tumskunde,' 3 vols., 1871), as stated by 
Isaac Taylor in his * History of Place-Names ' 
(1898), i.e. = " God's Gift," derived from 
Zend or Old Persian Bagha = Sanskrit or Old 
Indian Bhaga, denoting divine power, and 
d<2d=gift, been generally accepted ? The 
Old Slavonic name and word for God, Bog, 
which is preserved in all Slavonic languages 
of the present time, has also been found to 
be originally akin to the Zend and Sanskrit 
name of divine power -Bagha and Bhaga. 
Cf. Uhlenbeck's 'Alt-Indisches Worterbuch' 
(1899), p. 193. H. KREBS. 

ADDERS' FAT AS A CURE FOR DEAFNESS. 
A man employed as a navvy on the line from 
Tunbridge Wells to Brighton kills adders 
in the season on the railway banks, and 
extracts their fat, which is in demand as a 
cure for deafness. " One lady " (in her 
gratitude) " gave him quite a lot o' money." 
I have heard the same specific vaunted 
among the peasantry of East Suffolk. Can 
any reader tell me whether the belief is 
ancient, and also whether there is any ground 
for supposing the ointment really efficacious ? 

SCRUTATOR. 

JACOBUS CLERK'S name appears in a Bible 
of about the middle or end of the seven- 
teenth century. The family was subse- 
quently connected with the South of Ireland. 
His eldest son was probably named John. 
Has any reader come across the name in 
pedigrees of English Clarkes ? 

R. S. CLARKE, Major. 

Bishop's Hall, Taunton. 

COL. OAKES AND QUEEN CAROLINE'S 
FUNERAL. Can any of your readers inform 
me where I can find particulars respecting 
Col. Oakes, who commanded a squadron 
of the 1st Life Guards employed to suppress 
the riot at the funeral of Queen Caroline in 
1821 ? I believe that on this occasion he 
shot a man dead, and was in consequence 
cashiered ; but, later, an attempt was 
made to reinstate him in his former position. 
When this was found to be impracticable, he 
received a vote of thanks for the effectual 
manner in which he had prevented a riot, and 
was appointed to the Chief Constableship of 
Norfolk. I should be very glad to learn if 
these facts are correct, or to know where any 
details respecting his action in this matter 
can be found. (Mrs.) A. M. W. STIRLING, 

30, Launceston Place, Palace Gate, W. 



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QUEEN'S REGIMENT : SHEFFIELD PLATE 
DISH. The officers of the Queen's Regiment, 
Warley, Essex, possess a very large old 
Sheffield plate dish donor's name forgotten. 
They would be glad to know what family 
have a cockatrice or griffin with arrow in its 
beak, and motto " In Deo spero," as shown 
on the dish. W. MACKIE, Lieut. -Col. 

NEWENHAM ABBEY, DEVON. In Dug- 
dale's ' Monasticon,' vol. v. p. 690, it is said 
that a minute account of the journey of the 
colony from Beaulieu, 2 January, 1246/7, 
appears in the Register of the Abbey of 
Newenham, " at present in the possession of 
William Wavell, Esq., M.D., of Barnstaple." 
Can any of your readers inform me where I 
can consult this Register, or find a transla- 
tion of the account of this journey ? 

J. K. F. 

CHERTSEY CARTULARIES. Can any one 
inform me whether there are any of the 
cartularies of Chertsey Monastery published 
besides those given by Dugdale ? G. A. K. 

JEREMY SMITH, 1666. Can any reader 
of ' N. & Q.' give me information concerning 
Jeremy Smith, who held the office of Ranger 
and Bailiff of Windsor Park in 1666 ? 

E. G. COCK. 

MARQUIS OF ORMONDE'S GUARD. Where 
can I get information concerning officers 
who served in the Marquis of Oimonde's 
Guard of Battleaxes ? 

E. G. COCK. 

BELFAST REGISTERS. Are there any old 
registers of Belfast in existence ? If so, 
would it be possible to see them ? I want 
information concerning some one born about 
1677 in Belfast. E. G. COCK. 

IRISH BOOK OF REMEMBRANCE. I have 
a letter from an old Irish lady (now dead) 
in which she refers to a " Book of Remem- 
brance " which must have been published 
(probably in Ireland) before 1800. It was 
presumably a chronicle of Ulster families 
or of Anglo-Irish history. Apparently there 
was a list of subscribers printed at the 
beginning. Can any reader kindly refer 
me to such a book ? I am not at all sure 
that she gave me the right title of the book 
and I can find nothing like it at the British 
Museum. W. ROBERTS CROW. 

ALEXANDER HOLMES. 1848. In or aboul 
1848 the late Alexander Holmes, formerly o1 
3, St. George's Place, Hyde Park Corner, hac 
a remarkable adventure. A leader in The 



Times followed, entitled ' Taking the Bull 

>y the Horn.' Can some reader put me in 

correspondence with some one who retains 

a copy of the paper, now out of print ? I 

am interested, as the person referred to 

was my uncle, and the attempt was made 

,o save his brother my father-in-law, the 

ate Joseph Arthur Holmes, J.P., D.L., &c., of 

logher House, co. Sligo, near which a hired 

assassin lay concealed. ALFRED EDGAR. 

55, Inverleith Row, Edinburgh.. 



MILTON BIBLES. 

(11 S. iii. 1.) 

IN the later years of the last century I was 
a frequent visitor to Bristol, and always 
went the round of the old-book shops from 
the Colonnade to George's in Park Street, 
and I believe it was Kerslake who told me 
that when he was staying at a hydropathic 
establishment at Matlock, a fellow-visitor 
told him he had an old Bible in his bedroom 
that had belonged to Jo. Mitt on, the sporting 
man. Kerslake asked to see it, and, on its 
being brought, exclaimed : " Why, this be- 
longed to John Milton the poet ! " to which 
its owner replied : " If it only belonged to a 
poet, it ain't no good." The result was that 
Kerslake obtained it for a trifling sum, and 
later very liberally handed it to the British 
Mueum authorities at the same price. 

I am positive I acquired this information 
twenty or more years ago, and have no 
doubt it was from Kerslake's own lips. 

GEORGE POTTER. 
10, Priestwood Mansions, Highgate, N. 

P.S. Since sending the above to 'N. & Q.' 
I have found in my Milton scrapbook an 
article with the heading 'Milton's Bible,' 
signed Thomas Kerslake, from The Athenceum 
of 5 January, 1884, which gives an extended 
account of the acquisition of this Bible, and 
references to others. I may add that I have 
drawn Sir George Warner's attention to this 
article, but I would recommend its perusal 
to J. S. S. and others interested. 

Probably some information as to the 
provenance of the Bible in question might be 
obtained by going through Kerslake's book- 
catalogues. I have two of them of about the 
late fifties or early sixties of the last century, 
which comprise the remains of the library 
formed by Dr. William Turner of Herbal 



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fame, and of that of Sir Matthew Hale. 
Kerslake's methods of cataloguing were 
eccentric, and at the time of publishing 
the two catalogues which I have he was 
suffering from an acute attack of " news- 
paperitis," and added a " foot-note " of ten 
columns to one of the entries. * N. & Q.,' 
inter alia, came in for a bit of Mr. Kerslake's 
mind. All this, however, is by the way. 
But I feel sure the Milton Bible will be found 
in one of his catalogues, for Kerslake was 
not the man to hide a find of this kind. 

I may mention that an article on Milton's 
Bibles appeared in The Times of 13 December, 
1907. See also ' Book-Prices Current,' 1901, 
No. 2838. W. ROBERTS. 

18, King's Avenue, Clapham Park, S.W. 

Your correspondent has confused a 
mother and daughter in the paragraph 
beginning " Mrs. Foster, daughter of 
Deborah," &c. It was Deborah Milton, the 
poet's youngest surviving daughter, who 
married Abraham Clarke, and her only 
surviving daughter Elizabeth Clarke, who 
married Thomas Foster. Deborah Clarke 
died in 1727, and Elizabeth Foster in 1754, 
while the latter 's husband survived until 
1761. For a note on Elizabeth Foster that 
escaped Masson's attention see 2 S. iii. 265. 
PERCEVAL LUCAS. 

It was Milton's granddaughter, the 
daughter of Deborah, who married Thomas 
Foster. Deborah married Abraham Clarke, 
and her daughter Elizabeth married Thomas 
Foster, and for her benefit 'The Mask of 
Comus ' was performed at Drury Lane 
Theatre in 1750. She died on 9 May, 1754, 
and was buried at Islington. 

In Sir Bernard Burke's ' Rise of Great 
Families : Extinction of Families of Illus- 
trious Men,' these particulars are found. 

R. C. BOSTOCK. 



See 7 S. vi. 253. 



JOHN T. PAGE. 



SOPHIE DAWES, BARONNE DE FEUCHERES 
(11 S. iii. 27). There is at least one portrait 
at Chantilly. S. D. 

A sketch of this adventuress in Chambers' s 
' Biographical Dictionary,' 1897, p. 284, is 
derived apparently from private informa 
tion, or perhaps from French crimina 
records. Mr. T. H. Ward has an accoun 
of her in ' Men of the Reign,' 1885, pp. 317- 
318. SCOTUS. 



Miss WYKEHAM, BARONESS WENMAN 
11 S. iii. 27). Lord Folkestone to Thomas 
Oeevey, 23 February, 1818 : 

" Clarence has been near dying ; has been 
efused by the Princess of Denmark, and is going, 
} is thought, to marry Miss Wykeham." 
>eevey's ' Letters,' vol. i. p. 272. 

" But the maddest thing of all is what appeared 
a the Gazette of Tuesday the peerage conferred 

n . She is a disreputable half -mad woman. 

He perhaps thought it fair to give her this com- 
>ensation for not being Queen, for he wanted to 
tiarry her, and would have done so if the late 
ing would have consented." ' Greville Me- 
noirs,' vol. ii. p. 84. 

At a sale of curios some years ago at 
ing Street, Covent Garden, Mr. J. C. 
Stevens, according to a newspaper cutting, 
ffered 

a historic flag, which sold for eight guineas. 
This flag is of linen, and hand-painted with the 
rown, rose, shamrock, and thistle, and the words 
King and Constitution.' It was used at the time 
f the Coronation of George IV. and William IV., 
nd originally belonged to Miss Wykeham, after- 
wards the Baroness Wenman, a descendant of 
William of Wykeham. She was a Court beauty 
md a friend of Queen Adelaide." 

R. J. FYNMORE. 

Sandgate. 

LADY CONYNGHAM (11 S. ii. 508 ; iii. 37). 
W. S. S. confuses the lady's husband with 
ler son, the latter being the bearer to Queen 
Victoria of the news of her succession. The 
irst Marquis Conyngham died 28 December, 
1832, according to Burke's ' Peerage.' H. 

' YOUNG FOLKS' (11 S. ii. 450, 511 ; iii. 
34). Besides ' Treasure Island,' Stevenson's 
Kidnapped ' and ' The Black Arrow ' were 
originally published as serials in this 
Deriodical. * Kidnapped ' ran from 1 May 
31 July, 1886, in fourteen instalments, 
and was published in book-form during the 
same year. ' The Black Arrow ' ran through 
seventeen numbers of Young Folks, from 
30 June to 20 October, 1883 ; but though it 
preceded ' Kidnapped ' in point of date, it 
was not published as a book till July, 1888. 
Both 'Treasure Island' and 'The Black 
Arrow ' purported to be written by " Captain 
George North," a pseudonym which was 
dropped when the stories were republished. 

The history of ' Treasure Island ' formed 
the subject of an interesting correspondence 
between Mr. Robert Leighton, Dr. Alex. H. 
Japp, and Mr. James Henderson in The 
Academy, for 3, 10, and 17 March, 1900. 
Although ' Treasure Island ' was begun in 
August, 1881, at The Cottage, Castleton of 
Braemar, it was not completed until Steven- 
son had arrived at Davos in October for the 
winter. W. F. PRIDEAUX. 



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THOMAS HARE (11 S. ii. 509). Is 
G. F. R. B. certain that he has given the 
name and place correctly ? An examination 
of various books fails to show that a Thomas 
Hare ever was born here, ever married here, 
ever lived here, or ever died here. 

ALBERT MATTHEWS. 
Boston, U.S. 

MONTAGU GERRARD DRAKE (11 S. iii. 29). 
William Mountague of Little Okely, 
Northants, in his will, dated 30 July, 1702 
(P.C.C. 197 Eedes), refers to his great-grand- 
son Montagu Garrard (Gerard) Drake. 
G. F. R. B. may find this reference of use. 
There are other Drakes mentioned in the 
will. F. S. SNELL. 

JAMES FORSYTE (11 S. iii. 25). I re- 
member very well James Forsyth as a class- 
fellow and companion at the Grammar 
School of Aberdeen in 1848-51. Thereafter 
we were at Marischal College and University 
together for four years. At the close of that 
period a number of our fellow-students 
gained commissions in the regular army 
by competition, and in the H.E.I. C.'s forces 
by presentation of Cadetships by one of the 
directors, who was, or had been, Lord Rector. 
James Forsyth' s, I think, was one of the 
presentations. He must, at the time of his 
receiving it, have been 17 or 18 years of age. 
His father was the Rev. James Forsyth, 
D.D., minister of the West Parish Church, 
Aberdeen. ALEX. WARRACK. 

Oxford. 

THOMAS CORYAT AND WESTMINSTER 
SCHOOL (11 S. iii. 29). Probably Mr. Cousin 
wrote Westminster by mistake for Win- 
chester. In the late Mr. Kirby's 'Win- 
chester Scholars,' at p. 153, one Thomas 
Coryat occurs as the last on the roll for 1590. 
The entry is as follows : 

"Coryat, Thomas, (10) Odcombe. Qy. the 
traveller and author of ' Crudities.' " 

JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT. 

In Gorton's ' Biographical Dictionary ' 
it is stated that Coryat was educated at 
Westminster. The ' Dictionary ' notice is 
based on Wood's ' Athenae Oxonienses ' 
and the ' Biographia Britannica.' 

W. SCOTT. 

" ELZE "= ALREADY (11 S. iii. 25). 
This elze, " already," is only a particular use 
of the general form else, and is so explained 
both in the ' N.E.D.' and ' E.D.D.,' with 
illustrative examples. The former quotes 



Gawin Douglas and Montgomery, and 
reminds us that it is in Ray's ' Glossary of 
North-Country Words,' reprinted by me 
for the E.D.S. Ray has : " Else, adv. 
before, already. ' I have done that else, 
i.e. already.' ' The derivation is from the 
A.-S. elles, not, as Jamieson suggests, from 
the A.-S. ealles, which is an unrelated word, 
and means " wholly." The senses are : 
otherwise, in another way ; also, at another 
time, formerly, already. 

WALTER W. SKEAT. 

If MR. BAYNE has access to a copy of 
Sir Thomas Dick Lauder on ' The Great 
Floods of August, 1829, in Morayshire,' 3rd 
ed., Elgin., 1873, he will find the word 
else used in the sense of " already." The 
quotation in which it occurs refers to the 
rising flood endangering an ornamental 
structure in his grounds : 

'" John,' said I to the gardener as he was open- 
ing the gate that led to it, ' I fear our temple may 
be in some danger if this goes on ! ' ' Ow, sir, it 's 
awa' else.' " 

ALEX. WARRACK. 

Oxford. 

ROYAL CHRISTMASES AT GLOUCESTER ( 1 1 S. 
ii. 501). With reference to Gloucester's 
position as an administrative centre in Saxon 
and Norman times see Freeman's observa- 
tions in his * Norman Conquest,' ii. 61 and 
iv. 393, 623, and 690. Both Robert, Duke 
of Normandy, son of William the Conqueror, 
and Edward II. are buried in the Cathedral. 

N. W. HILL 

SS. PROTHUS AND HYACINTHUS (11 S. 
ii. 528). From ' Studies in Church Dedica- 
tions ' (pp. 141-2) it seems probable that the 
church of Blisland, near Bodmin, is the only 
English ascription to St. Protus, whose name 
has been sometimes rendered Pratt. Miss 
Arnold-Forster does not identify him with 
Protasius, Bishop of Milan, who was a friend 
of St. Athanasius ; for, she says, 
" the evidence of Blisland feast-day [formerly 
September 11] points us to another saint, a certain 
very apocryphal martyr, commemorated at Rome, 
together with his companion St. Hyacinthus, on 
September 11, under the reign of the Emperor 
Gallienus. His story may be found in Baring- 
Gould's ' Lives of the Saints,' where it forms part 
of the romantic and fabulous Acts of a certain 
high-born damsel, St. Eugenia." 
The name of St. Protus was to be found in 
the Calendars of York, Sarum, and Hereford. 

ST. SWITHIN. 
[W. S. S. also thanked for reply.] 



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GTJICHARD D' ANGLE (US. ii. 427, 472, 493). 
In the ' Vie et Gestes du Prince Noir ' 
he is mentioned at least five times. I 
refer to " Le Prince Noir Poeme du Heraufc 

d'armes Chandos The Life & Feats of 

Arms of Edward the Black Prince by 
Chandos Herald a Metrical Chronicle with 
English Translation and Notes by Fran- 
cisque-Michel. London & Paris 1883." 

In the description of the army of the King 
of France before the battle of Poitiers, 
Chandos the Herald speaks of " a body of 
four hundred armed horses, with four 
hundred knights upon them, all of the 
noblest escutcheon." 

Guychard d'Angle les conduisoit, 

Qui noble chivaler estoit. Line 1040. 

He appears to have been associated in his 
command with le Sieur d'Augebugny and 
Eustace de Ribemont. 

In the early part of the battle 

Atant veissez venir poignant 

Un chivaler preu et vaillant 

Qui appelez fut Guychard d'Angle. 

Cil ne se boutoit pas en Tangle, 

Ains feroit parmy le mestee, 

Sachez, de lance et de esp^e. 

Line 1192. 

(In other instances " veissez " is " veissez," 
with an accent.) 

" Then might you see coming spurring on a 
preux and valiant knight,"Guichard d'Angle by 
name, who did not put himself in a corner, but 
struck with lance and sword, know you, amidst 
the metee." 

Later Guichard d'Angle, having joined 
the English, appears in the vanguard led 
by the Duke of Lancaster, when the army 
was marching into Navarre on its way to 
Spain : 

Et 1'autre le bon Guychard d'Angle, 

Qui ne doit estre mis en Tangle, 

Ainz est bien droit que horn s'en remorge. 

Line 2283. 

" The other the good Guichard d'Angle, who 
must not be put in a corner, but is it right that 
men should remember him." 

Probably "is it " means " it is." " The 
other " means the other of the two marshals, 
the first mentioned being Stephen de 
Cosinton. 

The next extract comes from the descrip- 
tion of the battle of Najera. Speaking of 
those who were on the right of the Duke 
of Lancaster, Chandos Herald says : 
Et la fut le bon Guychard d'Angle, 
Qui ne se tenoit pas en Tangle. 
Ovesque li ot ses deux filtz. 

Line 3233. 

" And there was the good Guichard d'Angle, 
who kept not in the background. His two sons 
he had with him." 



He is mentioned again, among the chief 
officers of the " right noble Prince, whilst 
he held the province of Aquitaine " : 

Monsieur Gwichard d'Angle fut mareschal. 

Line 4193. 

Estephen (sic) de Cosinton apparently wa& 
co -marshal. 

I have given the true numbers of the 
lines. In the Errata is the following : 
" In the numeration of the marginal figures 
for 1. 2890 read 2860, and so on till the end." 
There is, p. 332, a note as to line 1040 : 
" Guichard d'Angle, sire de Pleumartin, and in 
1350, seneschal of Saintonge. He was present at 
the engagement with the English at Saint-Jean- 
d'Angely in 1346, and was taken before the same 
town in 1351, and carried to England. After his 
release at the end of the following year, he was 
constantly engaged against the English, until 
his capture at Poitiers. After this he joined the 
side of England, in 1363 was appointed by the 
Black Prince marshal of Aquitaine, and in such 
capacity ordered the following year to levy the 
revenues in the dukedom. (Rot. Vase., 38 Ed. III. , 
membr. 4 : Rymer, vol. iii. p. 726, cf. p. 801.) 
He fought gallantly at Najera 1367. By an entry 
dated February 19, 1341 (n. st.), Charles V. gave 
to Geoffroy de la Celle, knight, 60 pounds torneses 
of land in Touraine on the estates forfeited of 
Guichard d'Angle, ' chevalier rebelle.' (Archives 
Nat., JJ. 102, no. 182.) In 1372.be was elected 
into the order of the Garter, and at the coronation 
of Richard II. was rewarded with the earldom of 
Huntingdon and 100 marks per annum for the 
support of the dignity. He died in the spring of 
1380." 

According to the preface (p. xvi), Chandos 
probably wrote his poem in 13 86, or perhaps 
a year or two earlier. 

Francisque-Michel in his preface (p. vi) 
quotes from an " account drawn up by 
indefatigable John Anstis, Garter King at 
Arms," among his papers deposited in the 
Heralds' College : 

" Chandos was the herald of the famous Sir 
John Chandos, constable of Aquitaine." 

ROBERT PIERPOINT. 
[See the note on Sir John Chandos, ante, p. 25.] 

ISAAC JAMINEAU (11 S. ii. 509). He was 
appointed Consul at Naples at the date given 
by G. F. R. B. (2 July, 1753), and apparently 
held that office till August, 1779, when he 
was succeeded by James Douglas. He died 
3 November, 1789. I have been unable to 
find his name among the officials of the Post 
Office in the various issues of the ' Royal 
Kalendar ' between 1779 and his death. 
ALFRED B. BEAVEN. 

Jamineau wrote a paper * On the late 
Eruption of Mount Vesuvius,' which 
appeared in The Transactions of the Philo- 
sophical Society, x. 563, 1755. W. S. S. 



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THE STAIR DIVORCE, 1820 (11 S. ii. 489). 
Sharpe (' Genealogical Peerage,' vol. iii.), 
Anderson (' Scottish Nation,' vol. iii.), and 
Burke (' Peerage,' 1875 edition) repeat 
substantially the same story. John William 
Henry Dalrymple, who became 7th Earl of 
Stair in 1821, married in 1808, to quote the 
words of Anderson, 

" Laura, youngest daughter of John Manners* 
Esq., of Grantham Grange, and Louisa, Countess 
of Dysart. This marriage was dissolved the follow- 
ing year, in consequence of his having entered 
into a marriage contract in 1804 with Johanna, 
daughter of Charles Gordon, Esq., of Cluny. The 
latter marriage was, however, dissolved in June, 
1820." 

The contradictions arise out of the intricacies 
of Scots law. The future Earl became a 
married man in 1804 without being 4 * aware 
of it. No doubt the dissolution of his 1808 
marriage was brought about at the instance, 
or on behalf, of his real wife, Joanna Gordon. 
There is no evidence to show that the two ever 
lived together after 1809. According to 
Scots law, separation for four years consti- 
tuted a valid ground for divorce. It was on 
this ground, I think, that the future Earl 
obtained divorce in 1820. The question 
of adultery had nothing to do with the case. 
Public sympathy was largely on the side of 
the lady. She lived in Edinburgh, possibly 
died there, and was sometimes spoken of 
as " the ill-fated Countess of Stair." 

SCOTUS. 

"DiE IN BEAUTY" (11 S. iii. 7). I can 
answer my own query now : "in Schonheit 
sterben " occurs in Ibsen's * Hedda Gabler,' 
last act. G. KRUGER. 

[MR. W. R. PRIOR also refers to Ibsen.] 

" ALL COMES OUT EVEN AT THE END OF 

THE DAY" (11 S. ii. 527). Were not these 

words suggested by those of Brutus ? 

O, that a man might know 

The end of this day's business ere it come ! 

But it sufficeth that the day will end, 

And then the end is known.' 

' Julius Caesar,' V. i., last speech. 
LIONEL SCHANK. 

Is not this another version of the saying 
" The evening brings all home " ? 

NORTH MIDLAND. 

It might seem at first sight as if the words 
" All comes out even at the end of the day,' 
were merely an equivalent for the trite 
saying " Death equalizes all things." There 
are, however, many old sayings which convey 
a similar idea, but present it with consider 
able variety of phraseology. It is some 



vhat difficult to determine which of these 
ayings the Home Secretary had in mind 
when he quoted the words. One may 
magine that he was giving the substance, 
ather than the ipsissima verba, of some 
Id writer, or perhaps that he was com- 
)ining the sense rather than the actual 
vords of several sayings. W. SCOTT. 

I fancy that the difficulty lies in the 
adverb " even," and that the phrase is tanta- 
Tiount to the beautiful insight of Paul when 
he declared " All things work together for 
good." M. L. R. BRESLAR. 

HOLWELL FAMILY (11 S. ii. 528). The 
bllowing note regarding the Holwell family 
may interest J. T. P. : 

" Zephaniah and Sarah Hollival of St. Werburgh 
Street, Dublin, had John Hollival, baptized in 
St. Werburgh's Church, Dublin, 23 September, 
1711. This John had the destiny to emerge from 
:he Black Hole of Calcutta and become Governor 
of Bengal." 

The brothers Edward and Bowes, younger 
sons of John Minchin Walcot of Glenahilty, 
co. Tipperary, and Croagh, co. Limerick, 
along with a John Pigott (?), were also 
among the 23 survivors. 

WM. JACKSON PIGOTT. 

Manor House, Dundrum, co. Down. 

ALEXANDER GLENNY (11 S. ii. 509). 
All I can add is that his wife's name was 
Deborah, and that she died 9 December, 
1804, at the aee of 71 years. 

W. W. GLENNY. 

Barking, Essex. 

CHRISTMAS BOUGH : CHRISTMAS BUSH 
(11 S. ii. 507 ; iii. 14). This subject is 
dealt with in an article by Mr. S. J. Adair 
Fitz-Gerald which appeared in T. P.'s 
Weekly, 23 December, 1910. S. O. L. 

THACKERAY AND THE STAGE (11 S. ii. 428, 
494). Important information on this sub- 
ject may be seen in The Athenceum of 
16 and 30 July, 1892. H. S. 

EXHIBITION or 1851 (US. ii. 410, 452, 
493 : iii. 10). Surely, as Privy Councillors 
and Cabinet ministers, T. B. Macaulay and 
W. E. Gladstone were entitled to be, 
and ought to have been, styled Right 
Honourable, not Honourable. If the Official 
Catalogue was at fault, it was unquestionably 
a blunder. FREDERICK CHARLES WHITE. 

26, Arran Street, Roath Street, Cardiff. 

[The Official Catalogue described both as "the 
Hon."] 



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EARLY GRADUATION : GILBERT BURNET, 
JOHN BALFOUR (11 S. ii. 427 ; iii. 32). 
On p. 88 of ' Admissions to the College 
of St. John the Evangelist in the Uni- 
versity of Cambridge,' Part II., ed. by 
J. E. B. Mayor, is Wotton's certificate of 
good, conduct from the fellows of St. 
Katherine's Hall (the master being away). 
It is here stated that he " commenced 
batchelor of arts in January 1679/80." 
This is decisive for the higher age of 
thirteen years and c. five months. 

EDWARD BENSLY. 

The names of Wotton and Bentley appear 
in the Cambridge Honours List for the year 
1679/80. Wotton's name is second, and 
Bentley 's sixth upon the list. 

A. R. MALDEN. 

* KOSSUTH COPPERED,' SATIRICAL POEM 
(US. ii. 490). There is a copy of this in 
the Boston Public Library. On the verso 
of the title it is stated that " a portion of 
this poem appeared, some weeks ago, in 
The New York Herald." If L. L. K. 
cannot find a copy near home, I shall be 
glad to answer any question that may be 
sent direct to me. ALBERT MATTHEWS. 

Boston, U.S. 

REV. J. SAMWELL : REV. J. PEACOCK 
(11 S. iii. 9). In Julian's 'A Dictionary of 
Hymnology,' 1907, p. 1586, it is stated that 
John Peacock was b. 1731, became a 
Wesleyan minister 1767, retired 1796, and d. 
1803. In 1776 he published 'Songs of 
Praise compiled from the Holy Scriptures.' 
FREDERIC BOASE. 

ANDREW ARTER'S MEMORIAL, HAMMER- 
SMITH (11 S. ii. 10). Mr. Andrew Arter was 
a timber merchant. He lived at Linden 
House, Upper Mall, Hammersmith, and 
represented Hammersmith in the first and 
second London County Councils. 

G. W. E. R. 

The low stone pillar standing in Beavor 
Lane, Hammersmith, is evidently a sort of 
cippus marking the angle of a particular plot of 
ground, which has been left by some incom- 
plete road-widening in its present dangerous 
position ; and Mr. Andrew Arter, whose 
name is inscribed on the face of the stone, 
was evidently the owner of the plot. His 
death was recently announced in the papers, 
and he was the son of a timber merchant 
of the same name, the site of whose premises 
in Little North Street, Chelsea, is now 
absorbed in that of Harrod's Stores, and 



who, somewhere in the fifties, erected the 
houses of Bridge Avenue, Hammersmith, 
as a speculation. J. TAVENOR-PERRY. 

Chiswick. 

The worthy here commemorated lived in 
Beevor Lane for many years, and died, 
I believe, last year. The monument is merely 
a boundary stone which he inscribed similarly 
to one deciphered by me long ago, and 
mentioned in the papers of a bygone archaeo- 
logical society. SAMUEL PICKWICK. 

QUAKER OATS (US. ii. 528). Recalling 
former notices on numerous hoardings, I 
seem dimly to remember an explanation of 
the term " Quaker Oats " vouchsafed by the 
makers of that delicacy. The name (so I 
seem to recall the matter) was properly 
" Quaking Oats," from a fancied resemblance 
to the Briza Media or " quaking grass " of 
botany. As " quaking," however, was felt 
to be an unsuitable word to use for an article 
of food, it was altered into " Quaker," 
whence in due time emerged the portly 
gentleman in Quaker garb, whose full-blown 
proportions represented the result of the 
use of the preparation. SCOTUS. 

It is certain that " Quaker Oats " are 
food so named because the peculiar way of 
milling that produces this food was first 
carried on in Pennsylvania, the American 
State named after its founder, the famous 
Quaker Wm. Penn. T k WILSON. 

Harpenden. 

WILLIAM MEARS, BELLFOUNDER, 1626 
(11 S. ii. 445). The baptismal entry recorded 
at this reference does not seem to refer to 
the Wm. Mears of the Whitechapel bell- 
foundry, though possibly his family might 
have come from Nottingham. The White- 
chapel firm was begun about 1570 by 
William Mott, who sold it in 1606 to Carter 
of Reading. It passed to Thomas Bartlett 
in 1619, and he and his descendants carried 
it on till the end of the century. The last 
Bartlett died in 1701, when Richard Phelps 
succeeded. After him came Lester & Pack , 
then Chapman was taken into partnership, 
and the firm became Lester, Pack & Chap- 
man ; but the first name was soon dropped, 
and the firm was known as Pack & Chapman. 
Their bells were noted for being marked 
with riming mottoes, well known to cam- 
panologists. Pack died 1781, when Chap- 
man took as a partner William Mears. The 
latter had learnt his trade at the White- 
chapel foundry, and had started in business 
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firm became W. & T. Hears in 1787, Thomas 
probably being the son of William. William 
retired altogether in 1789. These particu- 
lars are abridged from Stahlschmidt's 
* Church Bells of Kent,' pp. 66, 92, 93, 109- 
113, where a fuller account of the White- 
chapel firm can be found, but no further 
details as to William Mears. A. RHODES. 

SHIP LOST IN THE FIFTIES (11 S. ii. 528). 
Was the ship in question the Birkenhead 
(steam- transport), wrecked on the coast of 
Cape Colony on 26 February, 1852 ? 

G. C. MOOEE SMITH. 

On 19 October, 1853, the Dalhousie (com- 
manded by Capt. Butterworth) foundered 
off Beachey Head, when the Captain, the 
passengers, and all the crew, with the 
exception of one man, perished, about 
60 persons in all being lost. Perhaps this 
may be the vessel referred to in the query. 
The newspapers of the period will no doubt 
contain a list of the drowned. 

On 30 August, 1857, the Dunbar clipper 
was wrecked on the rocks near Sydney, 
when 121 persons perished. Only one 
individual was saved, after clinging to the 
rocks for about thirty hours. W. SCOTT. 

ALFIERI IN ENGLAND (US. ii. 421, 532 ; 
iii. 37). The duel between Edward, second 
Viscount Ligonier, and Count Alfieri took 
place in the Green Park on Tuesday, 7 May, 
1771. See Public Advertiser, 11 May ; 
Gazetteer, 11 and 14 May ; Town and Country 
Mag., iii. 238, 277 ; Lady's Mag. [1771], 
478. Alfieri is said to have been wounded 
slightly in the arm, and his life spared, after 
he was disarmed, by the injured husband. 

In the petition for divorce at Doctors' 
Commons in June-November of the same 
year the movements of Lady Ligonier and 
Alfieri after the duel were described by 
several of the witnesses. The former left 
Cobham Park on the evening 'of 7 May, and 
from the 8th to the 17th of the month she 
resided in New Norfolk Street, London, 
where she was visited by the Count. On 
17 May she set out for France, being joined 
at Shooter's Hill by Alfieri ; but, as no 
accommodation could be had there, they 
proceeded to " The Rose Inn " at Dartford. 
Here they stayed together until Monday, 
20 May. On that morning they went in 
a post-chaise to Shooter's Hill; but Lady 
Ligonier and another lady returned the same 
evening to " The Rose Inn," and proceeded 
to Rochester. Shortly afterwards Alfieri 
followed on horseback. The witnesses state 



that the pair were going to France together. 
See ' Select Trials at Doctors' Commons/ 
printed for S. Bladon, London, 1779, vol. iii. 
The account of the divorce proceedings 
in the ' Journals of the House of Lords,' 
January, 1772, corroborates the statement 
that Lady Ligonier went to France ; and 
according to a paragraph in The Public 
Advertiser of 20 November, 1771, she was- 
then residing at Calais. There are many 
statements about the pair in 'The Gazetteer 
of 1771, and a careful search through the 
files of the newspapers for this year would 
probably disclose Alfieri' s movements in 
detail. HORACE BLEACKLEY. 

'TiT FOR TAT,' AMERICAN NOVEL (US. 
ii. 489 ; iii. 56). In Sampson Low & Co.'s 
' English Catalogue, 1872-80,' Miss M. E, 
Smith is named as the author of a book with 
this title, an edition of which was published 
in 1875 by Hurst & Blackett. This lady is 
apparently the Mary Elizabeth Smith who 
brought an action for breach of promise 
against Lord Ferrers, and wrote in 1849 a 
poem, ' Moscha Lamberti,' that is partly 
autobiographical. N. W. HILL. 

AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (US. 
iii. 29). 

Captives of his (or my) bow and spear 
A faulty remembrance of 2 Kings vi. 22,. 
" Wouldest thou smite those whom thou 
hast taken captive with thy sword and with 
thy bow ? " W. C. B. 

[PROF. BENSLY also refers to the same text.} 

RIDDLE OF CLARET (11 S. ii. 527). An old 
custom is here referred to. It is difficult,, 
perhaps impossible, to ascertain how it 
originated. A riddle or sieve was no doubt 
employed for convenience in carrying the 
bottles of wine. Claret rather than any 
other wine was probably consumed because 
it was comparatively cheap and easy to be 
procured. But why a riddle of thirteen 
bottles should almost invariably have formed 
a feature at archery dinners is not at all easy 
to conjecture. At archery meetings the 
number thirteen may perhaps have been 
supposed to bear some mystic relationship to 
the number of arrows discharged in the 
competition. 

But the gift of a riddle of claret was not 
confined to archery meetings. At golf 
competitions also the magistrates and town 
council, invited to the closing celebration 
dinner, were in the habit of presenting for 
consumption a riddle of claret. Perhaps 
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of the custom. At all events, the gift of a 
riddle of claret was of long standing, and 
dates from days when people attached more 
importance to lucky and unlucky numbers 
than they do now. SCOTTJS. 

WATER-SHOES FOE, WALKING ON THE 
WATER : GEORGE PARRATT (11 S. ii. 485). 
In * The Wonders of the Universe ; or, 
Curiosities of Nature and Art,' 1824, culled 
on the false title and at the head of the 
letterpress * The New Wonderful and Enter- 
taining Magazine,' p. 47, is an article headed 
' A Curious Invention for Walking upon the 
Water.' The first paragraph is : 

" Mr. Kent's [of Glasgow] recent invention of 
a machine by which he walks or moves along 
upon the water at the rate of three miles per 
hour, has produced the announcement of another 
novelty of the same description, but which seems 
more extensively useful. The inventor terms it 
an Aquatic Sledge ; it is thus described : " 

Then follows an account of this sledge, 
invented " some years ago " by Mr. Bader, 
" councellor of mines at Munich, in Bavaria." 

" The first public experiment was made with 
this machine on the 29th of August, 1810, before 
the royal family at Nymphenburg, with complete 
success. It is described as consisting of two 
hollow canoes or pontoons, eight feet long, made 
of sheet copper, closed on all sides, joined to 
each other in parallel direction, at a distance of 
six feet, by a light wooden frame. Thus joined, 
they support a seat resembling an arm-chair, in 
which the rider is seated, and impels and steers 
the sledge by treading two large pedals before him 
Each of these pedals is connected with a paddle, 
fixed perpendicularly in the intervals between the 
two pontoons. In front of the seat stands a small 
table, on which he may read, write, draw, or eat 
and drink .... This vehicle is far safer than a 
common boat, the centre of gravity being con- 
stantly in the middle of a very broad base, a 
circumstance which renders upsetting, even in 
the heaviest gale, absolutely impossible. It is 
moreover so contrived, that it may be taken to 
pieces in a few minutes, packed in a box, and put 
together in very short time." 

The box containing two metal pontoons, 
each eight feet long, and the other things 
must have been rather large. 

Some 20 or 25 years ago there was an 
exhibition of " life-saving " inventions in the 
Channel. The chief organizer, or perhaps 
only one of the organizers, was a friend ot 
mine, dead long ago, Mr. George Parratt. 
He was a fairly prolific inventor of in- 
genious but useless things. His pet in- 
vention was a lifeboat consisting mainly 
of collapsible pontoons, which in case of 
need were to be inflated by bellows. This 
was, I think, the principal machine in the 
exhibition, which took place on and about 
the^catamaran steamship Castalia, which is 



now, or was not very long ago, a smallpox 
hospital, somewhere in the lower reaches of 
the Thames. 

Among the strange inventions was one for 
as it were walking in the sea. It was 
an indiarubber boat about four feet long by 
about two feet in the middle, with two india- 
rubber stockings attached to the bottom. 
The inventor's assistant got into this boat 
with his legs in the stockings, closed the 
top covering round his waist, and then 
went down the perpendicular ladder lashed 
to the ship's side. Either before going 
down or directly he got into the water, he 
proceeded to inflate the apparatus through 
a tube. He had with him a little double 
paddle, with which he was intended to 
propel himself. The tube, however, got 
loose or otherwise out of order, and the boat 
began to fill and sink. Fortunately, there 
was a very handy man on board, with little 
more than a pair of old trousers on ; he 
hurried down the ladder, and caught the 
hand of the sinking assistant of the inventor. 

There were other inventions which were 
so dangerous that it was a wonder that no 
one was drowned, although the sea was 
perfectly calm. 

At one time Parratt 's raft lay in the 
Serpentine at another in the water at (?) 
the Earl's Court Exhibition. What be- 
came of it eventually I do not know. 

ROBERT PIERPOINT. 

COUNTY COATS OF ARMS : Co. SOMERSET 
(11 S. iii. 30). According to 'The Book of 
Public Arms,' Somerset has no armorial 
bearings : 

" The seal of the County Council simply ex- 
hibits the inscription, ' The Seal of the County 
Council of Somerset, 1889.' The arms of Bath 
have sometimes done duty for the county; but 
the ' Justices ' Seal, which is most beautifully 
executed, represents King Ina in his Palace of 
Justice, and at his feet is a portcullis, the old 
Plantagenet badge, evidently allusive to the old 
Beauforts, Dukes of Somerset. On the dexter 
side are the arms of the Somersets, Dukes of 
Beaufort, balanced on the sinister by the arms 
of the Seymours, Dukes of Somerset. At the 
base are the arms of the See of Bath and Wells, 
and at the top are the arms .... a cross patonce 
between four martlets." 

ROLAND AUSTIN. 

Public Library, Gloucester. 

PlTT AND WlLKES ON ENFRANCHISEMENT 

(11 S. iii. 8). Inquiry is made at the above 
reference for the names of the 36 boroughs 
which Mr. Pitt in 1785 proposed to dis- 
franchise, and the inquirer adds that he put 
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I doubt whether it is possible for us at 
this time to specify them, and I cannot find 
that Mr. Pitt ever enumerated them. In his 
speech in Parliament (18 April, 1785) he 
expressed his belief that the House would 
agree with him in thinking that " there 
were about 36 boroughs so decayed as to 
come within the scheme," and he proposed 
" the establishment of a fund fa million 

Eounds] for the purpose of purchasing the 
anchise of such boroughs as might be 
induced to accept of it " (' Parl. Hist.,' xxv. 
441-2). 

This language seems to me to show that 
he necessarily left the names of the boroughc 
in the dark. The Western counties of 
England by themselves would have provided 
a sufficient number of Parliamentary boroughs 
which were ripe for extinction. 

W. P. COURTNEY. 

Unless the names of the burghs proposed 
to be disfranchised by Pitt are contained 
in the Journals of the House of Commons, 
it is hard to say where a complete list of 
them may now be found. The following 
works might be consulted : Stockdale's 
' Parliamentary Guide ' for 1785, or ' De- 
bates and Parliamentary Register .... from 
1780 to 1796,' published by Debrett. 
Massay's ' History of England during the 
Reign of George III.,' vol. i. chap, ix., deals 
at some length with the subject of corrupt 
constituencies. Earl Stanhope (' History of 
England from the Peace of Utrecht,' vol. i. 
chap, i.) gives a list of 35 " hereditary seats," 
which probably coincides to some extent with 
the list of Pitt. The Rev. Christopher 
Wyvill, Rector of Black Notley, published a 
work bearing directly on Pitt's Bill, entitled 
' Summary Explanation of the Principles of 
Mr, Pitt's intended Bill for Amending the 
Representation of the People in Parliament ' 
1785. He also wrote, ' State of the Repre- 
sentation of the People of England/ 1793, and 
* Political and Historical Arguments proving 
the Necessity of Parliamentary Reform,' 
1811, 2 vols., but I cannot say whether he 
gives the names of burghs to be disfranchised. 

As regards Wilkes, it is scarcely likely that 
any list of the burghs he proposed to wipe 
out can now be found. His speech, how- 
ever, in bringing forward his measure, is still 
extant, and may be read in " The Treasury 
of British Eloquence .... Compiled by Robert 
Cochrane," Edinburgh, W. P. Nimmo, 
1881, pp. 165-9. In the course of his 
speech he names some ten or a dozen burghs 
to which the term " rotten " used to be 
applied. W. SCOTT. 



RATS AND PLAGUE (11 S. ii. 465). 
" Accordingly it appears that the priests 
and diviners then knew that ' scientific 
basis ' " is the ending of my Note 2431 in 
The Boston Evening Transcript's ' Noter> 
and Queries ' of 10 September, 1910 ; and 
this note can doubtless be seen in the file of 
that periodical at its London office, 3, 
Regent Street, by any interested in coinci- 
dences. My note was based on a dim 
remembrance of a similar article in The 
New York Evening Post of about ten years 
ago, so the parallel is not novel, as thought 
by CANON SAVAGE. 

Further light is thrown by Baikie's * Sea 
Kings of Crete,' pp. 167-8 ; and that the 
rats are not directly responsible for spreading: 
the plague, but merely as they are" hosts " 
for fleas, may be inferred from a paper 
read before the (London) Zoological Society 
on 15 November, and briefly recorded in 
The Athenceum of 10 December, p. 738. 

ROCKINGHAM. 

Boston, Mass. 

HACKNEY AND TOM HOOD (11 S. iii. 29). 
Hood slightly alters Byron's ' Childe 
Harold,' canto iii. st. 21 : 
There was a sound of revelry by night, 
And Belgium's capital had gather'dthen 
Her Beauty and her Chivalry, and bright 
The lamps shone o'er fair women and brave men. 

WALTER W. SKEAT. 
[MB. T. BAYNE and DIEGO also refer to Byron.] 

GOATS AND Cows (11 S. ii. 466, 534). 
George Eliot was evidently cognizant of 
this custom. In ' Middlemarch ' (1881 ed. r 
p. 291), when describing the old farm home- 
stead called Freeman's End, she says r 
" There was an aged goat (kept doubtless on 
interesting superstitious grounds) lying 
against the open back-kitchen door." 

See also 9 S. v. 248, 359, 521 ; vi. 132, 196, 
JOHN T. PAGE. 

Long Itchingtorj, Warwickshire. 

" PUCKLED "(US. ii. 526). The ' N.E.D/ 
records the word " puck-led " s.v. " Puck,' r 
sb. 1 e, but gives no such early quotation as 
that produced by MR. PIERPOINT. 

L. R. M. STRACHAN. 

Heidelberg. 

CAP!. WlTHAM AND THE SlEGE OF GIBRAL- 
TAR (US. iii. 28). The incident referred to 
is not to be found in Drinkwater's ' History 
of the late Siege of Gibraltar,' although that 
writer gives a full account of the sortie made 
on the night of 26 November, 1781, along 
with a plan of the operations. He even 
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narrates that " a volunteer of the 73rd 
Regiment lost his kelt [sic] in the attack," 
from which it may be argued that it was a 
" warm affair " while it lasted. See ' His- 
tory,' 3rd ed., p. 203 (London, J. Johnson, 
1786). T. F. D. 



A Suffolk Hundred in the Year 1283. Edited by 
Mr. Edgar Powell. (Cambridge University 
Press.) 

MR. POWELL has published a valuable addition to 
the history of Suffolk, and, we may add, an 
important contribution to the financial practices 
of the Edwardian period. The original is pre- 
served in the Record Office in a manuscript 
on seventy skins of parchment written on one 
side only. It is with few exceptions in good con- 
dition, but the list of parishes is not quite com- 
plete. The roll is not only important as showing 
by what method the national finances were raised 
when Edward I. was king, but also in some cases 
it indicates how farming was carried on in days 
when, as many people yet fancy, the cultivators of 
the soil were but little above the condition of 
serfs. 

The money which the King called for was 
urgently required for the second Welsh war, 
which broke out on Palm Sunday, 1282, and lasted 
till the October of the following year, when, as 
the writer tells us, " the last Celtic Prince of 
Wales suffered the ignominious death of a traitor." 
It was for carrying on this contest that the assess- 
ments were made, and, the royal treasury being 
empty, the King in the first instance was, it seems, 
compelled to apply to the merchants of Lucca 
to help him in discharging his most pressing 
needs ; but the cash he required was far more 
than they were willing to supply. No time, how- 
ever, was to be lost, so Edward in June, 1282, 
dispatched John de Kirkeby, Archdeacon of 
Coventry, who afterwards became Bishop of Ely, 
to borrow money of the towns and religious houses. 
London contributed 4,OOOZ., and York 693Z. 6s. 8d. 
Although, with the exception of those for Ipswich, 
the documents which Mr. Powell has given are 
the only ones providing full details, a roll remains 
in which we have the gross sum for each shire. 
In this it is strange to find that Lincolnshire and 
Norfolk were regarded as by far the richest 
counties. 

Towards the end of the volume there are thirty 
eight carefully elaborated tables of the tax lists 
of the Hundred of Blackbourne. These will 
require much study before it will be possible 
to understand what were the live and dead stock 
belonging to the men and women who were 
occupiers of lands and tenements. 

We know of no other documents of about 
the same period which give so fully the average 
of prices as those before us. An attempt has been 
made to draw a comparison between the popula- 
tion of the villages in 1283 and 1908. It has been 
impossible to make any statement that will be 
satisfactory, but no reasonable doubt exists 
that there were far more men, women, and children 
in the villages 625 years ago than those who 
follow the older teachers areVilling to imagine. 



Traherne'8 Poems of Felicity. Edited by H. I- 
Bell. (Oxford, Clarendon Press.) 

WE venture to think that too much has been 
made in some quarters of the poems by the seven- 
teenth-century poet Thomas Traherne, which were 
first published by Mr. Dobell in 1903, and are here 
edited, with additions, by Mr. Bell. There is 
always a danger that the discoverer of an un- 
known or forgotten treasure will appraise the 
value of his find too highly, because it is his 
own ; and when it is claimed that Traherne 
belongs to the same brotherhood as Vaughan and 
Herbert and Crashaw and Henry King, we cannot 
but dissent. On their weaker side of mystical 
obscurity and involved quaintness there may be 
resemblances, but he has little of their brightness 
of fancy and felicity of expression. His lines do- 
not arrest and stamp themselves on the memory. 
Traherne's lyre had but few strings, and on 
three of these he harps with somewhat tedious- 
iteration. A favourite theme with him is the 
superior blessedness of infancy, to which he 
returns again and again, contrasting its innocence 
and bliss, the loss of which he never ceases ix> 
deplore, with the deterioration of adult manhood ,. 
which is further off from heaven. Here he is 
at one with Vaughan ; and R. L. Stevenson 
might have written the poems entitled ' Shadow 
in the Water ' and ' On Leaping over the Moon.' 
Another subject on which Traherne loves to dwell 
is the deeper insight and wider scope of the inward 
spiritual eye. Here he approximates to W T ords- 
worth, who might have acknowledged as his own 
the lines 

A meditating inward ey 
Gazing at Quiet did within me ly (p. 14). 

A third maxim of his mystic philosophy, to 
which many poems are devoted, is that the world 
belongs of right and de facto to him who with 
the seeing eye and thankful heart best appreciates 
its beauties, far more than to the mere possessor 
and legal proprietor. Izaak Walton had anti- 
cipated him in this fine sentiment. 

The editor includes thirty -nine poems inot 
given in Mr. Dobell's editio princeps, and tells 
us the little known of Traherne and his works. 
He need not have doubted yer (p. 144), a common 
spelling of ere in seventeenth- century books. 

The Utopia of Sir Thomas More. Edited by 

George Sampson. (Bell & Sons.) 
THE philosophical yarn of that veracious mariner 
Hythlodaye (" Babbler ") is of perennial interest, 
and Messrs. Bell have produced an excellent 
edition of it in their " Bonn's Libraries " under 
the care of Mr. Sampson. He has appended to 
the ' Utopia ' the Latin original of 1516, together 
with Roper's Life of More (in a critically accurate 
text obtained by the collation of four MSS. in the 
British Museum), and a selection of his letters. 

Mr. Sampson falls into the common mistake of 
over-annotating his text. The reader hardly 
requires to be told in a note, when More refers 
to Cicero, that this was " the famous orator and 
philosopher M (p. 24) ; and no one will thank him 
for the information that CC in the text means 
" two hundred " (p. 81). An " algorisme stone " 
was certainly not a " slate," as explained p. 333 ; 
and " La Bruayere " (p. 137) needs to be corrected. 
Per contra, we have to thank him for a full Biblio- 
graphy, and an excellent engraving of Holbein's. 
I portrait of More, which forms the frontispiece. 



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BOOKSELLERS' CATALOGUES. JANUARY. 

MR. EDWARD BAKER'S Birmingham Catalogue 
283 contains among works under Art Solon's 
' Ancient Art Stoneware of the Low Countries,' 
2 vols., folio, 1892, 21. 5s. In a list under Debrett 
is ' Dictionary of the Coronation,' 1902. There 
.are works under Folk-lore, Heraldry, and India. 
Under Mary, Queen of Scots, are Cowan's ' Who 
wrote the Casket Letters ? ' 2 vols., 16s., and 
Cust's ' Authentic Portraits,' based on the re- 
searches of Scharf, 18s. 6d. Napoleon items 
include Sergeant's ' The Burlesque Napoleon,' 

* Lost Voyages ' by Rose, ' Surrender ' by Dick- 
son, and ' New Letters.' Works under Occult 
include Paracelsus, 2 vols., 4to, cloth, new, 1894, 

11. Is. Under Pottery are Solon's ' Old English 
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SIR CHARLES WENTWORTH DILKE. 



THERE have been many sad notes in dear 
old ' N. & Q.' since Thorns founded it in 1849, 
but none more sad than our note to-day of 
the death of the Right Hon. Sir Charles 
Wentworth Dilke. 

Born on the 4th of September, 1843, at 
76, Sloane Street, the house in which he 
died on Thursday, the 26th of January, 
he came from his earliest years under the 
influence of his grandfather, whom he much 
loved, and who lived close at hand in a bright 
cheerful house in Lower Grosvenor Place, 
with a view from the drawing-room windows 
of the gardens of Buckingham Palace. Of 
the pleasant memories of this he was speak- 
ing to me quite recently. 

On the death of his wife Mr. Dilke went 
to live at Sloane Street, where his son built 
a library and rooms for him. It was the old 
man's delight to have his grandson with him 
among his books and get him to read to him 
choice selections from his twelve thousand 
volumes. It was in this way that Sir Charles 
acquired his large range of knowledge of 
literature, and his grandfather's influence 
gave the whole tone to his life in politics 
and social questions. Many of these topics 
found a place in The Athenceum, which 
condemned the employment of children 
in mines, giving illustrations of their 
emaciated condition, and favoured parks 
for the people, public libraries, and other 
advantages. To carry out the enlarged 
ideas of his grandfather was Di Ike's aim 
from his youth, and, as is well known, he 
worked to secure better conditions for the 
people to the last day of his life. 

The affection with which his grandfather 
regarded The Athenceum Dilke inherited to 
the full, and his desire was that the same 
spirit of truth and independence should be 
maintained as when the paper was under 
Mr. Dilke' s control that it should be 
"faithful and just in its criticisms, the 
earnest seeker after truth, severe when the 
occasion required, but always more happy 
when helping to add a name to the roll of 
fame than when removing an unworthy one 
from it." 

It was in 1872 that Sir Charles became 
proprietor of ' N. & Q.' on the retirement 



of Thorns, who was succeeded by Doran 
as editor ; but it was not until soon after 
Knight became editor that Dilke joined 
" the happy few, the band of brothers." 
From that time he read ' N. & Q.' week by 
week, following closely every discussion in 
its columns ; and though he did not write 
such elaborate articles as those by his 
grandfather on Pope, Junius, and other 
subjects, his contributions over the signa- 
ture of D., as will be seen by the last two 
General Indexes and the earlier half-yearly 
indexes, were most various and suggestive. 
He frequently adopted other signatures, 
made up of the initials of the first words 
of the heading of the article. The question 
as to the National Flag greatly interested 
him, and he was delighted when the dis- 
cussion was finally settled by the official 
recognition of the Union Jack. It is curious 
that it should have been thought that he 
lacked a sense of humour. To those who 
knew him his hearty laugh was infectious, 
and, besides, how could a man have written 
that amusing brochure ' The Fall of Prince 
Florestan of Monaco' without an uproarious 
sense of fun ? 

The review of ' Papers of a Critic ' which 
appeared in ' N. & Q.' on the 10th of July, 
1875, was by his old friend Thorns. 

No record of Dilke' s life would be complete 
without a reference to the second Lady 
Dilke. Sir Charles as a tribute to her pub- 
lished 'The Book of the Spiritual Life,' 
which she had written as complementary 
to her works * The Shrine of Death ' and 
' The Shrine of Love.' This he preceded by 
a short memoir, and Knight in his review 
which appeared in ' N. & Q.' on the 3rd of 
June, 1905, said : ' : Admirably has the feat 
been accomplished, and though the chivalry 
and the devotion are everywhere apparent, 
the reticence of the utterance is not less 
manifest than its fidelity and truth. It is 
the record of 'a noble, industrious, and 
well -spent life, memorable in literature, 
art, and social progress, and as the final 
exposition of a spiritual, practical, and in a 
sense optimistic faith.' 

JOHN COLLINS FRANCIS. 



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CONTENTS.-NO. 58. 

SIR CHARLES WENTWORTH DILKE, 81. 

NOTES : Tottel, Puttenham, and Chaucer, 82 "Terra 
Susana," 83 Burial-Entries of Strangers, 84 "Pas- 
senger" in the 'N.E.D.' Sir Thomas Bodley, M.P., 85 
Ordinaries of Newgate "The Old Mogul," Drury Lane 
" Vail" : its Use by Scott, 86. 

QUERIES :-"Tewke," "Tuke," a kind of Cloth Prickly 
Pear and Monreale Cathedral Henry, Prince of Wales- 
Herbert W. Stebbins- William Elmham ' Death of 
Capt. Cook,' 87 Lea Wilson's Collection of Bibles- 
Benjamin Garlike Scottish Titles conferred by Cromwell 
Sir Francis Bathurst Long Barrows and Rectangular 
Earthworks Parish Formation Fairfax : Sayre : Maun- 
sell Sudane or Soudan Family' Guide for the Penitent,' 
88 Pyrrhus's Toe Warren Family Sir Charles Chalmers 
Hampshire Map Amphisbsenic Book Hungarian Bib- 
liography " Rebecca and her Daughters " Pawper or 
Pauper Bird Subterranean Chamber in Staffordshire, 89. 

REPLIES .-Thread - Papers Benjamin Bathurst, 90 
Archdeacon Fifield Allen Thackeray and the Stage- 
Thackeray's Last Words Matthew Prior's Birthplace- 
Bishop FitzGerald, 91 Authors Wanted" Essex " as a 
Christian Name "Ennomic" Corpse Bleeding, 92 
Speaker's Chair, 93 Count of the Holy Roman Empire- 
Miss Pastrana" Bolt/on ffaire groates " Canova's Busts, 
94 Corn and Dishonesty Smiths of Parndon Rev. 
Sebastian Pitfield's Ghost Church with Wooden Bell- 
Turret' Flying Dutchman,' 95 Spider's Web and Fever 
Coroner of the Verge Club Etranger, 96 "Carent" 
Songs of the Peasantry Inscriptions in Churchyards 
W. J. Lockwood The Three Wishes Knots in Handker- 
chiefs, 97 Blackstone's ' Commentaries ' Whyteheer, 98. 

NOTES ON BOOKS :-' The Oxford English Dictionary.' 
Booksellers' Catalogues. 
OBITUARY : Canon Hewitt. 



TOTTEL' S ' MISCELLANY,' PUTTEN- 
HAM' S 'ARTE OF ENGLISH POESIE,' 
AND CHAUCER. 

ALTHOUGH more than 350 years have passed 
since Tottel published his ' Miscellany,' the 
authorship of only four of the 134 anonym- 
ous poems in his book is claimed to have 
been traced, and one of these claims is ex- 
tremely doubtful. I have found three more 
authors to share in them, Chaucer amongst 
the number. 

On the strength of a MS. note-book of 
verse, partly composed, and partly copied 
from others, by a William Forrest, and 
finished by him 27 October, 1572, the 
authorship of two poems seems to be 
definitely settled. One of these (Arber, 
p. 173), 

I lothe that I did love, Ac. 

Forrest assigns to Lord Vaux, and his 
assignment is corroborated by George 



Gascoigne in the Epistle to young gentlemen 
prefixed to the 1575 edition of his * Posies ' 
(" Cambridge English Classics," p. 11). The 
other is the celebrated song (Arber, p. 163) 

Geve place you Ladies and begon, &c. 
assigned by Forrest to John Heywood. 
In the * Arte of English Poesie,' p. 247, 
Puttenham unhesitatingly asserts that Lord 
Vaux also wrote (Arber, p. 172) 

When Cupid scaled first the fort, &c. 
Which of the Lords Vaux is meant by 
Puttenham, Forrest, and Gascoigne is a 
matter that has not been determined, and 
is still open to discussion. 

Next we come to the doubtful ascription. 
In Tottel (p. 164) there are fourteen lines 
which seem to be an extract from a poem 
formed on the plan of the legends in ' The 
Mirror for Magistrates,' and the first letters 
of the lines and the final one of the quotation 
spell the name " Edwarde Somerset." It 
is extremely unlikely that Somerset wrote 
these lines, because the conceit of signing 
a name in verses was commonly practised 
by writers of those times, who sometimes 
make the party designated speak in the first 
person. 

Up to the present, so far as I can learn, 
these are the only poems in Tottel's " Un- 
certain Authors " that have had authors* 
names subscribed to them since the ' Mis- 
cellany ' first appeared in June, 1557. 
Churchyarde, however, in his * Challenge/ 
1593, claims that he wrote " many things 
in the booke of songs and Sonnets " printed 
in Queen Mary's days, meaning, no doubt, 
Tottel's work ; but I have sought vainly 
through his known work for proof of the 
statement, which I do not challenge, for 
Churchyarde was a voluminous writer, and 
evidently a very honest man and a good 
fellow withal. ' The Gorgeous Gallery of 
Gallant Inventions,' 1578 a similar 
anthology to Tottel's, and intimately con- 
nected with it, for it prints several poems 
included in the * Miscellany,' though some- 
times in a varied and not easily recognizable 
form -contains one of Churchy arde's songs, 
commencing, 

The heat is past that did mee fret, &c. 

Parke's * Heliconia,' pp. 94-5. 

No signature is given, but the original or 
amended version of the song, minus two- 
stanzas and with variations, occurs in 
' Churchyardes Charge,' 1580 (Collier's re- 
print, pp. 51-2). But Tottel yields nothing 
tike what can be seen hi Churchy arde's 
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The last writer for whom a claim has been 
put in is Sir Francis Bryan, who, according 
to Michael Drayton (' Elegies,' 1627), had a 
share in the ' Miscellany.' 

As I had found little difficulty in tracing 
PuttenhanVs quotations from Tottel and 
others, it occurred to me that some success 
might follow from an inquiry into the ante- 
cedents of some of these charming little 
gems in the * Miscellany,' for it seemed to 
me to be a lamentable thing that no progress 
had been made in unearthing the authors and 
history of a collection of songs and sonnets 
which had passed through seven editions 
by 1587, and which must have exercised 
very great influence on writers and men 
and women of culture up to King James's 
time, if not beyond. I soon found that Sir 
John Harington the Elder had been a 
contributor to the collection, and that one of 
his poems is of high historical interest ; and 
that another piece in it was composed 
by Sir Antony St. Leger, who was Lord 
Deputy of Ireland from 1540 to shortly 
before his death in 1559. But I was more 
than surprised to find Chaucer in the 
' Miscellany,' although I had noted that there 
is verse in Tottel which must belong to 
writers of about 1400, or much earlier than 
Tottel's time. 

In the Aldine edition of ' Chaucer's 

Works ' there are two versions of one of the 

poet's * Minor Poems,' headed ' Good 

Counsel 1 of Chaucer,' both commencing, 

Fie fro the pres, and duell with sothfastnesse, <kc. 

Vol. VI., pp. 295 and 316-17. 

The shorter version consists of three stanzas 
of seven lines each, and has various readings 
from the longer one, which adds a stanza, 
also of seven lines, as the 'Envoy.' Now, if 
one turns to Tottel, pp. 194-5, this poem 
will be found there, headed " To leade a 
vertuous and honest life." The Tottel 
poem sometimes agrees with one version of 
the Chaucer poems, and sometimes with the 
other where it differs from its fellow ; but 
it omits the ' Envoy.' Chaucer is said to 
have written the verses " upon his dethe 
bedde leying in his great anguysse," but 
doubts have been cast upon the genuine- 
ness of the work. Tyrwhitt, however, and 
Godwin admitted its authenticity, and it is 
included in most or all authoritative editions 
of Chaucer issued in recent years. 

I think this evidence is sufficient to 
justify us in putting down Chaucer as one 
of Tottel's authors, and so leave it. 

There is another little matter concerning 
Chaucer which may as well be cleared up 



now, especially as it concerns Puttenham,. 
who quotes as from the poet twice, a*. 
ollows : 

O soppe of sorrow soonken into care, &c. 

P. 221 
When faith failes in Priestes sawes, &c. 

P. 232. 

The latter quotation, of course, comes from 

he ' Minor Poems,' where it is headed 

Chaucer's Prophecy ' ; but the other does 

not belong to the poet, and is the property- 

)f Robert Henryson, forming the opening 

>f ' The Complaint of Cresseid ' (see ' Dunbar 

Anthology,' p. 17], Oxford Universty Press,' 

1901). Puttenham found his quotation in 

he 1532 edition of Chaucer's Works, printed, 

y Thomas Godfray,* which is really a 

iscellany, for it contains pieces by Lyd- 

gate, Occleve, Gower, Scoggin, and others, 

n prose and verse. CHARLES CRAWFORD. 



"TERRA SUSANA." 

THIS is a term of rare occurrence. The 
only published work in which it seems to- 
lave been noticed is in an undated list of 
;he possessions of St. Augustine's, Canter- 
3ury, following the ' Chronica ' of William 
Thorn in Roger Twysden's ' Decem Scrip- 
tores,' col. 2202. Thorn wrote about 1397. 
The principal passages are these, Arabic 
numerals being used in place of Roman : 

' In marisco cum aqua 418 acr. 3 virg. 2 Day- 
works et de terra Susana 400 acr. dimid. 

3 Dayworks. Item de feodo camerse 130 acr. 
5 Dayworks et dimid. Item de feodo vesturse- 
de terra marisci 48 acr. Item ;de feodo vestures- 
de terra Susana et bosco 42 acr.. 1 rod. 

4 Dayworks Item apud Stodmersch de terra. 

Susana prati et marisci 488 acr. 1 virg. dimid." 

The word is always printed in italics.. 
Somner, who compiled a glossary to the 
* Decem Scrip tores,' says that " terra susana" 
means worn-out land, the condition of which 
has been exhausted by over-cultivation,, 
from the French suranne, " which exceeds a. 
year." Ducange, quoting passages in the 
above list where the word occurs anJ 
Somner' s opinion, adds significantly : " Sed, 
ut verum fatear, vim vocis non assequor 
omnino." Kelham in his dictionary of the 
'Norman or Old French Language' (1779) 
has the entry : " Susanne, suranne (terre)^ 
land worn out with too long ploughing." 
This corroborates Somner, and proves that 
the word has been found in its French form. 
I have not been able to trace any instance- 
of this, and should be glad to hear of one. 

What has suggested the present note is 
that the word occurs in the foundation. 



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charter of the chapel of Northye, Sussex, 
a copy of which is included in the Register 
of Bp. Robert Rede of Chichester (1397- 
1415), and another at the end of Book Y 
in. the Chichester Cathedral muniments. 
This charter is shown by internal evidence 
to belong to A.D. 1262. The passage is : 
" Et tres acras terre mee susane in eadem 
parochia [Bixle, i.e. Bexhill] quas Robertus 
Bercarius aliquando tenuit de me in Calde- 

cote " Book Y reads, " Et tres acras 

mee Lusane," which looks as if the copyist 
did not understand the term. The Rev. E. 
Turner in Suss. Arch. Coll., xix. 23-6, 
gives a very free translation of the charter, 
and avoids this word altogether. 

I have only one more probable instance of 
its occurrence, namely, in " Susan's Farm," 
Eastbourne. This has been traced on an 
old map, and seems more likely to be a 
survival of a piece of terra susana than a 
personal place-name. 

If it is assumed that the term came from 
across the Channel it is natural enough that 
it should not occur beyond the counties of 
Kent and Sussex. As to its derivation, 
Somner's explanation seems unsatisfactory, 
for land passed over for the year in ploughing 
operations would be fallow rather than 
derelict, to become fruitful again after suffi- 
cient rest. It seems to be coupled with 
marshland in Kent, and William de Northye's 
grant shows that it was near five other acres 

aquis et fossatis circumquaque inclusas." 
An ingenious guess, therefore, has been made 
that it may be land soused, or subject to 
periodical flooding in wet seasons ; but this 
conjecture could not " hold water " if the 
term came from Normandy, and its French 
origin seems to be matter of certainty. 
Littre gives no help, nor does the word occur 
in Moisy's ' Glossaire Anglo -Normand,' or 
* Dictionnaire du Patois Normand ' ; but 
M. Eusebe de Lauriere in his ' Glossaire 
du Droit Francois ' (a Paris, 1704, torn. ii. 
p. 397) explains the term " Susan, Surana- 
tion," thus : 

" When a process commenced has not been 
followed up .... or when a Sentence, a com- 
mission, a judge's mandamus, or a prince's 
rescript has not been put into execution within 
the year. ..." 
and a note is added : 

" In France a rescript which any one has 
obtained from the prince perishes in the ye;-r if 
it has not b een used, like a Pontifical rescript." 

Such a process then becomes useless, of no 
value ; so does over-cultivated land. May 
this be the clue to the meaning of terra 
susana, or is it to be sought elsewhere ? 



The double form sur, sus, gives no difficulty. 
Both in Normandy were equivalent to the 
Latin super, says Kelham, sub becoming suz. 

CECIL DEEDES. 
Chichester. 



BURIAL-ENTRIES OF STRANGERS. 

I HAVE sometimes thought what an excellent 
thing it would be for genealogical searchers 
if the numberless entries in parish registers 
of the burial of strangers (where parishes or 
places are mentioned) could be made gene- 
rally accessible. Unquestionably, some of 
these " foreign " entries, could they be known 
to interested parties, would supply many a 
missing pedigree-link ; but they occur 
where no ordinary searcher would dream of 
looking for them. Large towns, or even 
villages situated on important roads, would 
probably supply many examples. 

By way of illustration, I append a series 
of rough notes I recently extracted from the 
unprinted registers of St. Peter's, Notting- 
ham, during a recent search over a period 
of about 'a century. I may add that scores 
of officers and soldiers occur among burials 
of the Civil War period, many of whom were 
doubtless far from their homes : 

1573. John, son of Tho. Forman of Strelley, 
Notts, buried. 

1576. " One Michaell, a stranger, who by his 
own confession came from within a myle of 
Oxforde, and departed at the house of one Robert 
Wilkenson in the towne of Nott., bookebynder," 
buried. 

1593. Sir James Abercrumby buried. 

1599. Robert, son of William Burbidge, late 
of Stanton-le-Stones, co. Derby, buried. 

1612. Martin Hornesey, gent., prisoner, buried. 

1614. Nicholas Neale, gent., traveller, buried. 

1624. Mary, d. of Mr. William Tomlinson, 
minister of Thorpe, near Ashburn, co. Derby, 
buried. 

1628. An, d. of William Couper of Burton 
Jorse, buried. 

1628. Richard Muston of Cropwell Butler, 
buried. 

1636. Gervase W T est, gent., " chiefe cooke to 
the right honourable Lord Chamberlaine to the 
Kings Maiesty," buried. 

1640. Symon, son of Richard Bullock of Lon- 
don, deceased, buried. 

1655. John, son of Mr. Walter Whalley of 
Cotgrave, buried. 

1656. Ruth, wife to Squire Middleton, buried. 
1659. Richard Ryder, gent., buried at Sauley. 
1659. Mrs. Mary, widow of Tho. Cooke of 

Whatton, buried. 

1675. Mary, d. to Mr. John Hull, London, 
baptized. 

1680. John, son of Thomas and Dorothy 
Towle of Bramcoate, baptized. 

1681. Sarah, d. of Henery Tealar and Dorothy, 
of Darley, co. Derby, baptized. 






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1686. Richard, s. of Thomas Levis, of Beeston. 
and Mary, baptized. 

1666. Fortune, d. of John Lawson, of Lenton, 
buried. 

1666. Thomas Sanderson of Shelford, buried. 

1668. Anne, wife of William Webb, citizen of 
London, buried. 

1669. Thomas Boylston, gent., and citizen 
of London, buried. 

1671. Jane, wife of Richard Squire of Kinalton, 
buried. 

1672. Luke Killingworth, of Killingworth in 
Northumberland, Esq., buried " in ye Middle 
Alley of ye Church." 

1675. Susannah, d. of John Speed of Basford, 
gent., buried. 

1675. William Presley of Howbecke, P. 
Cuckney. buried. 

1675. John Baldocke of Widmerpoole buried. 

1676. Mary, d. of Thomas Beamon of Blyth, 
Notts, buried. 

1676. Ann, d. of James Coxe, of Outhorpe, 
buried. 

1676. Mary, d. of Thomas Lorrinton of Stones- 
ley, co. Leicester, buried. 

1677. " Henry Smith, of ye County of Yorke," 
buried. 

1678. Martha, d. of William Round of Alfreton 
co. Derby, buried. 

1678. Jonathan, s. of Jqnathan Martin of 
Duffield, buried. 

1678. Francis, son of the late Andrew Clarke, 
gent., of Yorke, buried. 

1679. Mary, d. of Isaac Wollet of Haslewood 
P. Duffield, co. Derby, buried. 

1679. Adam Adcock of London buried. 

1679. Susannah, d. of Thomas Newham of 
Arnold, buried. 

1680. Cornelius Launder of Alfreton, co. 
Derby, buried. 

1680. Jane, d. of Thomas Athorpe of [blank], 
co. Yorke, gent., buried. 

1680. Thomas, s. of George Blagg of Gedling, 
buried. 

1681. George, son of Peter Jackson of Mans- 
field, buried. 

1682. John, s. of Andrew Buxton of Great 
Cropwell, buried. 

1682. John, s. of the late Mr. John Ward of 
London, buried. 

1682. Ann, wife of Will. Fletcher of Derby, 
buried. 

1683. Elizabeth, d. of Samuel Spencer of 
Lenton, gent., buried. 

1684. Martha, wife of William Wheateley of 
Ruddington, buried. 

1684. John Whittecar of Leeke, co. Stafford, 
buried. 

1686. Anne, d. of William Raggsdale of Edwal- 
ton, buried. 

1686. Katherine, wife of Robert Warner of 
Papleweeke, co. Nottm., buried. 

1686. Mary, d. of James Bingham of 
ECigham, co. Derby, buried. 

1686. Mr. John Viccars of Loughborrow 
buried. 

1688. Mary Greene of Shelf orde buried. 

1689. William, s. of Ed Aster of Beeston, 
buried. 

1689. " A Dutch Souldjer." [Repeated in 
the same year.] 

A. STAPLETON. 



" PASSENGER " IN THE ' N.E.D.' Meaning 
No. 6 is given by Sir James Murray as follows: 

" Slang. One of the crew of a racing-boat who 
adds to the weight without contributing his share 
to the work ; hence an ineffective member of a 
football team, etc." 

The only quotation is one from The Guardian, 
25 May, 1892 : "In the ordinary amateur 
band there are always several ' passengers.' ' 
The date at which the slang meaning had 
come into use is indicated by " 1885 [Re- 
membered at Oxford]." That it was familiar 
at Cambridge four years earlier than this 
can be proved by a definitely dated example 
with the meaning of a useless man in a boat. 

In the second volume of The Cambridge 
Review, in the number for 1 June, 1881, 
appeared " The Naval Contest at Ditton, 
Thucydides, ix. 1." signed H. R. T(hu- 
cydides), i.e. H. R. Tottenham, fellow 
of St. John's. On p. 355 are the words 
** nor is it likely that they will carry many 
supernumeraries (7TpiWa>s, Anglice pas- 
sengers] " Mr. Tottenham's brilliant parody 
was reprinted in his ' Cluvienus his Thoughts,' 
Cambridge, 1895. 

Canon Ainger in his ' Crabbe ' (" English 
Men of Letters") seems to have made a 
singular mistake about the meaning la of 
the ' N.E.D.,' " A passer by," in dealing 
with a statement in the Rev. George Crabbe' s 
life of the poet : 

"Having left my mother at the inn, he walked 
into the town alone, and suddenly staggered in the 
street and fell. He was lifted up by the passengers." 
-P. 161, 1834 ed. 

Ainger's comment is " probably from the 
stage-coach from which they had just 
alighted" (p. 79, chap. v.). Surely the 
people passing in the street are here meant. 
EDWARD BENSLY. 

SIB THOMAS BODLEY, M.P. The ' D.N.B.' 

states that " his first attempt to enter into 
public life seems to have been unsuccess- 
fully made in 1584, when he was recom- 
mended by Sir Francis Cobham for election 
to parliament as M.P. for Hythe." 

On referring to ' The Barons of the Cinque 
Ports and the Parliamentary Representa- 
tion of Hythe,' by the late George Wilks, 
Esq., Town Clerk, I find a copy of Lord 
Cobham' s recommendation, dated from Cob- 
ham Hall 25 October, 1584, and signed W. 
Cobham ; and at p. 63 the entry in the 
Corporation Assembly Book is given thus : 
" Memorandum That the 27th daye of October. 
1584, Mr. Mayor, the Juratts, and Comon'ty, 
being assembled in the Comon Hall there, touch- 
ing the answering of a letter sent from Mr, 
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Lord Warden [of the Cinque Ports, Lord Cobham], 
therein his honor maketh request to have the 
nomynation and election of one of the Burgesses 
to the Parliament w ch goe out of Hethe uppon the 
next Sumons for the same, whereuppon the sayd 
Mayor, Juratts, and Comon'ty have uppon good 
consideration granted his honor's request, and 
4ihat his honor shalbe answered accordingly. 

"Memorandum That the first daye of November, 
1584, Mr. Mayor, Juratts, and Comon'ty being 
assembled in the Town Hall there, to choose and 
appointe Burgesses to the Parliament to be 
holden the xxiij* 1 day of this instant of Novem- 
ber at Westm r accordinge to the Sumons in that 
behalfe directed, as also accordinge to the effect 
of a 1're sentt to the sayd Mayor, Juratts, and 
Comons from our Lord Warden in the behalfe of 
one Mr. Thomas Bodyly, whoe is ellected to be 
one of the said Burgesses by the Lords of Her 
Ma*?* Privie Councell, and also p'ferred unto us 
by y* Lord Warden as a man very meet for the 
ame, and lykewise allowed to be one by the sayd 
Assembly. And for the Election of y* other 
JBurgesse for the sayd towne, the sayd Assembly 
have no'iated, elected, and chosen, Christopher 
Honiwood, gent, Mayor there, together with the 
sayd Mr. Bodyly, to be and appeare at Westm' 
at the day above sayd." 

From this it appears, not that Bodley was 
unsuccessful, but that he was elected. 

The next election was in September, 1586, 
when two fresh candidates were elected. 

R. J. FYNMORE. 
Sand gate. 

OBDINABIES OF NEWGATE. (See 10 S. vii. 
408, 454; viii. 10, 278; 11 S. ii. 325.) 
In The Pvblic Advertiser, Wednesday, 20 
October, 1773, there is a report of the pro- 
ceedings at the Court of Aldermen at Guild- 
hall, when, the resignation of the Rev. John 
Wood of the office of Ordinary of New- 
gate being announced, a curious debate 
took place. The Lord Mayor, James Towns- 
end, recommended Mr. Silas Told for the 
vacant post, 

"because for above 20 years the said Told had 
repeatedly of his own accord gone in the cart with 
the condemned prisoners to Tyburn to sing and 
pray with them and give them spiritual food. 

This recommendation, however, did not meet 
with the approval of the Court. 

Silas Told, whose portrait appears in 
Hogarth's ' March to Tyburn,' is a familiar 
name to students of the history of crime, 
and a full account of him is given in Major 
Griffiths's * Chronicles of Newgate.' 

HORACE BLEACKLEY. 

[See also the references to Told sited by MR. A. L. 
HUMPHREYS at 10 S. x. 390.] 

" THE OLD MOGUL," DBUBY LANE. 
The destruction of this old public-house, 
with the Middlesex Music -Hall adjoining 
it, removes another ^.London landmark 



familiar to all who know Drury Lane. 
Those who can remember the Drury Lane 
of the seventies will note how completely 
and entirely it has altered since that time. 
In a very little while virtually the whole 
lane will have been rebuilt, and what was 
at one time a most disreputable thorough- 
fare will become as respectable as Gharing 
Cross Road. 

" The Old Mogul " occupies the ground 
formerly covered by " The Mogul's Head," 
which was a well-known tavern in the reign 
of Charles II. ; and Nell Gwynne lived on 
the opposite side of the lane. The music- 
hall has twice been rebuilt within the last 
sixty years, and is notable only as the place 
where many artists who afterwards became 
famous made their first appearance. George 
Augustus Sala described a night there some 
thirty years ago. 

FBEDEBICK T. HIBGAME. 

" VAIL " : ITS USE BY SCOTT. Reprints 
of Scott's poems and novels persistently give 
" veil " where " vail " was undoubtedly the 
form intended and duly written by the 
author. " Vail," to lower, which is distinct 
from " veil," to cover, is well illustrated 
in Shakespeare. Typical examples are those 
in ' Venus and Adonis,' 1. 956, where the 
amorous goddess is said to have " vail'd 
her eyelids " ; in * The Merchant of Venice,' 
I. i. 28, in which passage a noble vessel comes 
to the mind's eye as " vailing her high-top 
lower than her ribs " ; and in ' Hamlet,' 
I. ii. 70, where the Queen of Denmark 
deprecates the " vailed lids " of her per- 
plexing son. 

Scott seems to have liked the word, and 
he uses it appositely in various circumstances. 
One well-known example is in ' Marmion,' 
iii. 234, in the expression "Princes vail 
their eyes." Reprints after Lockhart's time 
frequently have the reading " veil " in this 
passage. In special editions, however, 
critical experts have restored the original 
version, and their example is beginning to be 
followed by those who superintend a com- 
plete issue of the poetical works. A reading 
in ' The Lord of the Isles,' which has not 
been so widely and closely considered as the 
earlier poem, has not had the same good 
fortune. This occurs in i. 239, where the 
Lady Edith is asked to notice how Ronald's 
galley stoops her mast to the gale, 

As if she vail'd its banner'd pride, 
To greet afar her prince's bride. 
" Veil'd " is the reading presented here in 
what is virtually an excellent edition of 
Scott's poems in a single volume. In the 






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same work, however, the ' Marmion ' passage 
is correctly given. 

Two instances from a reprint of " The 
Author's Edition" of 'The Talisman' may 
suffice meanwhile to show how the case stands 
in the novels. Near the beginning of 
chap. xxiv. we read of spiritual dignitaries 
4< who in those days veiled not their bonnets 
to created being." Scott must have written 
the other word. In the song of ' The Bloody 
Vest,' which Blondel sings in chap, xxvi., 
this couplet appears : 

And say unto my lady, in this dear night-weed 

dressed, 
To the best armed champion I will not veil my 

crest. 

It is evident what the reading here ought 
to be. THOMAS BAYNE. 



WE must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 

" TEWKE," " TUKE," A KIND OF CLOTH 
References to this are frequent from c. 1490 
to 1553. Rogers, * Agric. and Prices,' has 
from Oxford, 1494, " 1 piece of Tewke for 
Tergates," 112 yds. at Is. 3d. ; and from 
Cambridge, 1496, 12 yds. "Tewke" at 
Is. Id. A will of 1496 has " gownes lyned 
with Tuke " ; and Palsgrave, 1530, has 
" Tewke to make purses of [Fr.] trelis." 
(Littre explains treillis as " grosse toile dont 
on fait des sacs.") An inventory of church 
goods at Stafford, 1552-3, has " one canopy 
of tewke, ij f rentes of sylke, iij crosse 
clothes, ij of sarsnet, and the other of tewke." 

We should be glad to know if anything 
has been discovered as to the nature of this 
cloth, and especially as to the derivation 
of the name tewke. (Connexion with High 
German tuch is hardly to be thought of at 
that date ; the Dutch and Flemish was 
doec, doek.) J. A. H. MURRAY. 

Oxford. 

PRICKLY PEAR AND MONREALE CATHEDRAL. 
Botanists seem to be satisfied that the 
prickly-pear cactus, now common in southern 
Mediterranean lands, is not indigenous, 
and was introduced there from America in, 
I think, the seventeenth century. In the 
Cathedral at Monreale, near Palermo, is a 
well-known series of mosaics, representing 
Biblical incidents, executed, it is said, in the 
time of the Normans, by Byzantine artists. 
When I saw these (now 22 years ago), I 
thought that I observed several instances 



in which the artist had depicted common 
objects which he saw around him. For 
example, Esau in quest of venison pursues 
quail, the wild game in the artist's day (as 
I supposed), and still, I believe, hunted on 
the slopes of the neighbouring Monte Pelle- 
grino. Similarly Adam and Eve, after their 
expulsion from the Garden of Eden, are 
represented as clothed (rather uncomfortably) 
with leaves which to my eye were those of 
the prickly pear. 

Possibly this mosaic is not now in its 
original condition ; or I may have been 
wrong in thinking that the prickly pear was 
represented as the substitute for the fig 
leaves. I cannot pay another visit to Mon- 
reale to verify my impression, nor can I here 
consult any description or history of the 
mosaics. I shall therefore be greatly obliged 
if any of your readers will give me informa- 
tion on the subject. THOMAS LANGTON. 
80, Beverley Street, Toronto. 

HENRY, PRINCE OP WALES : MARK ON 
HIS NECK. In literature contemporaneous 
with him I have discovered what appears 
to be an allusion to Henry, Prince of Wales 
(son of James I.), who died in 1612. Among 
other characteristics, the person alluded to 
is described as having a mole, or some similar 
mark, on his neck. Had Prince Henry 
such a mark on his neck ? 

If this can be shown to be the case, the 
allusion will be established, and will prove 
to be interesting, if not important. P. 

Philadelphia. 

HERBERT W. STEBBINS. The address is 
earnestly desired of Herbert W. Stebbins, 
who made inquiry in The Genealogist of 
October, 1900, concerning my ancestor 
Stephens Thomson, Attorney-General of 
Virginia 1703-14, and his descendants. 

(Miss) KATE MASON ROWLAND. 
C/G Virginia Historical Society, 

Richmond, Virginia. 

WILLIAM ELMHAM. I am astonished to 
see that William Elmham, governor of 
Bayonne, admiral of the English fleet 
" versus portes boreales " in 1379, a partisan 
of Richard II., is not mentioned in the 
' Dictionary of National Biography.' What 
more is known of him ? 

EDME DE LAURME, 
Soignies. 

' DEATH OF CAPT. COOK/ This piece was 
performed at Covent Garden in March, 
1789. Can any reader oblige me with infor- 
mation regarding four of the cast, viz., Mr. 
Blurton, Mr. Cranfield, Mr. Darley, and 



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Miss Francis ? I should also be glad of ' PABISH FORMATION. Where may I find 



any bibliographical information regarding 
the French piece from which this ballet 
was adapted. R. H. 

LEA WILSON'S COLLECTION OF BIBLES. 
I shall be obliged if any reader can give 
me information as to the disposal of the 
collection of Bibles, &c., belonging to Lea 
Wilson, of which a catalogue was printed in 
1845. If the collection was sold by auction, 
I should be glad to know the date of the sale. 
I specially desire to discover the present 
location of the copies of three editions of the 
Metrical Psalms which appear in the cata- 
logue, viz. : 39. The Psalms, &c. 16mo, 
Schilders, Middelburg, 1599. 78. The 
Psalms, 16mo, Raban, Aberdeen, 1629. 
79. The Psalms, 16mo, Hart, Edinburgh, 
1630. WILLIAM COWAN. 

BENJAMIN GABLIKE. Is anything known 
about the career of Benjamin Garlike, 
British Minister at Copenhagen 1805-7 ? 
Is any biographical sketch in existence ? 

W. R. PBIOB. 

SCOTTISH TITLES CONFEBBED BY OLIVEB 
CBOMWELL. Mark Napier states in his 
life of John Graham of Claverhouse, Vis- 
count Dundee (1859), vol. i. p. 217, that the 
Marquess of Argyll and Sir Archibald John- 
stone, commonly called Lord Warriston, 
had titles given by Oliver Cromwell. I have 
never heard of Scotch titles being conferred 
by the Protector. It is probable, however, 
that the statement is correct. - Can any- 
one tell me what the titles were, and if 
others were given by him to Scotchmen ? 

L. S. M. 

SIB FBANCIS BATHUBST. Sir Francis 
Bathurst went to Georgia about 1734 with 
his wife Frances and some of his family. 
About 1737 his wife died in Georgia, and 
soon after Sir Francis was married by the 
Rev. John Wesley to Mary Pember, the 
widow of the Attorney-General of Antigua. 
It is supposed that Sir Francis and his wife 
sailed for England after this marriage, 
possibly with Wesley. Can any reader 
verify this, and give date and place of death 
of Sir Francis and his wife Mary ? 

AGNES. 

LONG BABBOWS AND RECTANGULAB 
EABTHWOBKS. I should be glad of refer- 
ences to papers dealing with long barrows 
associated with rectangular earthworks. 

EDITOB ' BBADFOBD ANTIQTJABY.' 



the fullest and most trustworthy account 
of the formation of the ancient parishes of 
England ? GBEGOBY GBUSELIEB. 

FAIBFAX : SAYBE : MAUNSELL. Mar- 
garet, daughter of Sir Thomas Fairfax of 
Silling, co. York, and widow of William 
Sayre of Worsall, between 1531 and 1535 
married a Richard Maunsell (Durham Cur- 
sitor Records, Deputy Keeper's Reports). 

1. Who was this Richard ? I think he 
was brother of William M. of York, or at 
any rate one of the Yorkshire family, but 
I want proof. 

2. When did Margaret die ? 

3. Is there any reference to issue by this 
marriage, or any other information ? 

D. MAUNSELL. 

SUDANE, SOUDAN, OB SOLDANK FAMILY : 
INSUDANEYE. I should be obliged to any 
reader of ' N. & Q.' who could give me infor- 
mation regarding a family named Sudane 
or Soldank (the latter is Hasted' s spelling). 
This family was a distinguished one ; a 
certain Stephen Soudan took part in the 
Barons' Wars (Henry III.). Hugo Soldank 
held the manor of Hopland, Westbere, 
Kent, in that reign, as well as that of East 
Sutton or Sutton Court. Thorpe several 
times mentions the name in his ' Chronicle * 
('Decem Scriptores') in connexion with 
charters of St. Augustine's monastery, the 
abbots of which were lords paramount of 
most manors in the vicinity. The name iu 
question is variously spelt by Thorpe, 
Soldani, Soldan, &c. 

As early as circa A.D. 940 reference is made 
to " terram quse continet xliiij manentes, in 
loco qui dicitur Insudaneye," close to the 
Isle of Thanet, and " cur tern xij manentes 
habentem in loco qui dicitur Sturreye." 
Can any one locate Insudaneye ? This 
place seems to me to have been near Chislet. 
Any information will be much valued. 

J. F. PITMAN. 

' GUIDE FOB THE PENITENT.' Who is the 
author of the ' Guide for the Penitent ' fre- 
quently, even in Jeremy Taylor's lifetime, 
bound up with 'The Golden Grove,' and 
hence often erroneously ascribed to the 
Bishop ? The author is referred to in the 
preface of many editions as "of the highest 
order of the Church." The ' Guide ' has 
been published separately at least once 
by the S.P.C.K. in 1852, edited by C. T. B., 
probably Chas. Black. I can find no clue 
at the B.M. to the authorship. 

E. M. Fox. 



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PYRRHUS'S TOE. In Sir Thomas Browne's 
* Hydriotaphia ' is an allusion to " Pyrrhus 
his toe," which could not be burnt. Where 
can I find an explanation of this allusion ? 
I have searched in vain through every 
annotated edition that I have found, and 
in many books of reference. E. M. Fox, 

WARREN FAMILY. Could any reader 
furnish particulars of the " Virtus mihi 
scutum " Warrens of Middlesex, Surrey, 
Herts, &c., between 1600 and 1698 ? I 
possess details from 912 to 1600. Gilbert 
Warren was living at the 1634 Heralds' 
Visitation at the hamlet of Colney. Thomas 
Warren (Middlesex 16-), who was from 
Poynton, Cheshire, used exactly the same 
arms. Please reply direct. 

J. R. WARREN WARREN. 

Little Maplestead, Halstead, Essex. 

SIR CHARLES CHALMERS, BT. His name 
appears, as such, in the Army List of 1755, 
as a lieutenant in the Royal Artillery. He 
died at Valdore in India on 1 November, 
1760. Wanted information as to the 
baronetcy. When was it conferred, and 
when did it become extinct ? 

J. H. LESLIE, Major R.A. (retired). 

Dykes Hall, Sheffield. 

HAMPSHIRE MAP. I have the north-west 
portion of a map (unfortunately badly 
mutilated) of Hampshire which is adorned 
with engravings of the principal scenes, 
my portion containing views of Silchester 
walls with a plan, Carisbrook Castle, and 
Portchester Castle. The map is well exe- 
cuted, and the engravings are good ; it 
would appear to date from about the period 
of the late 18th or early 19th century. Can 
any of your readers inform me where this 
has been taken from and its exact date ? 

T. A. OPPE. 

51, Moorgate Street, E.C. 

AMPHISB^NIC BOOK. The Bodleian 
Library prints a ' Staff-Kalendar ' for the 
use of those employed there. The first 
issue was that of 1902 (4 May 31 Dec.), and 
consisted of 80 printed pages and 16 blank, 
for notes. 

With the issue for 1905 began the habit of 
printing a ' Supplement to the Staff-Kalen- 
dar,' " meant to be revised and enlarged 
yearly, until it becomes as far as possible a 
complete directory to the practice of the 
library." In order to make reference to 
either part of the book instantaneous, the 
Supplement begins at the other end of the 
book from the Kalendar, with a separate 



cover-title, title-page, and pagination. The 
whole of this matter is, by necessary con- 
sequence, inverted as compared with the 
Kalendar. 

Are there any other modern books so 
printed ? Has MR RALPH THOMAS a 
" bibliographical term " for such a book ? 
The one that heads this query seems hardly 
adequate, though it suggests the facts. 

Q. V. 

HUNGARIAN BIBLIOGRAPHY. Where can 
I get copies of the following ? 

1. 'Resurrection of Hungary.' Printed in Ireland 

in 1904. 

2. * Hungarian Protestantism ' (T. Watts-Dunton). 

Printed in 1906 or 1907. 

3. A book on Hungarian gipsies by Walter Crane. 

I have not been able to find these in the B.M. 
Catalogue. W. H. SHRUBSOLE. 

29, Halons Road, Elthara, Kent. 

" REBECCA AND HER DAUGHTERS." 
The Times of 5 January, in noticing a book 
on the Rebecca Riots in Wales, says that 
Miss Evans, the editor of it, does not 

"allow the etymology of 'Rebecca' which traces 
the term to Gen. xxiv., 60, where her family bless 
Rebekah and say, * Let thy seed possess the gate 
of those which hate them.' The rioters, she says, 
determined to dress Thomas Rees, one of their 
leaders, in women's garments, and came across a 
tall stout old maid named Rebecca, whose dress 
was made to fit him." 

Is this upsetting of a long-cherished belief 
justifiable ? May not the encounter with 
the stalwart spinster have been merely a 
confirmation of a name previously selected 
as being of good omen to the cause ? I 
fancy that Thomas Rees was to be of the 
petticoated sex in order to represent the 
Biblical Rebekah. ST. SWITHIN. 

PAWPER OR PAUPER BIRD. William 
Harrison in his ' Description of England,' 
1577, Book III., chap. ii. ' Of Wild and 
Tame Foules,' says : 

" As for egrets, paivpers, and such like, they are 
dailie brought unto us from beyond the sea, as if 
all the foule of our countrie could not suffice to 
satisfie our delicate appetites." 

This bird, it is stated, is mentioned, in an 
Act of Parliament relating to grain temp. 
Queen Elizabeth. Of what description, and 
whence, is this bird ? L. S. 

SUBTERRANEAN CHAMBER MENTIONED IN 
PLOT'S ' HISTORY OF STAFFORDSHIRE.' 
Hargreave Jennings in his book on the 
Rosicrucians gives an account of a sub- 
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his ' History of Staffordshire,' published 
in the reign of Charles II. Plot also says that 
the place became afterwards famed as the 
sepulchre of one of the brotherhood. The 
Spectator, No. 379, for Thursday, 15 May, 
1712, has an account of it. 

Can any one tell me the exact locality, and 
is the place still in existence ? C. L. K. 



THREAD-PAPERS. 
(11 S. iii. 8.) 

I HAVE a clear recollection of my mother's 
thread-papers, as one of them found after 
her death in 1887 was made from an early 
plan of the Alexandra Palace estate, and, 
as I have never seen another copy, is now a 
much-valued item in my local collection. 

Thread was bought in skeins, and then 
cut into pieces of uniform length ; these 
were passed through flattened tubes made 
of stout paper to prevent their getting 
entangled. These flattened tubes were called 
" thread-papers." GEORGE POTTER. 

10, Priestwood Mansions, Highgate, N. 

A hank or skein of thread was stitched up 
by the domestic sempstress in a narrow 
piece of soft paper, about 9 or 12 inches long, 
leaving the ends free, for convenience of use, 
and to keep it from being ravelled or tangled. 
By the time the thread was finished, the 
paper, known as a " thread-paper," became 
pinched up, wrinkled, and ragged by much 
handling, so that " worn to a thread-paper " 
was a phrase commonly applied to any 
person or thing in like condition. I suppose 
the wooden reel, which I was taught to call 
a bobbin, has superseded the thread-paper. 

W. C. B. 

I believe that thread-papers were long 
strips of paper folded twice longitudinally, 
in which our grandmothers, or great grand- 
mothers, kept skeins of thread, so cut that 
they could draw out a doubled-up needleful 
at will. I have seen Berlin wools so arranged, 
and the different shades of one colour 
arranged in sequence in one bundle of these 
paper sheaths. When they were merely 
thread-papers, they would not be very 
bulky. I remember hearing some tall 
attenuated women referred to as " thread- 
papers without the thread." I suppose poor 
Strephon wished to suggest that the lady of 
his heart would use the paper on which his 
verses were inscribed for work-bag purposes 

ST. SWITHIN. 



The following passage from Sheridan's 
Rivals ' (1775) proves that the word was not 
restricted to journalistic use, nor to the 
early eighteenth century : 

Thos Is she rich, hey ? 

Fag. Rich ! Why, I believe she owns half the 
stocks ! Zounds ! Thomas, she could pay the 
national debt as easily as I could my washer- 
woman ! She has a lapdog that eats out of gold, 
she feeds her parrot with small pearls, and all 
tier Ihread-papers are made of bank-notes ! 

Act I. sc. i. 

So MR. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL'S quotation 
trom " poor Strephon's " letter is another 
instance of the usual diffidence evinced by 
poets in prefaces, introductions, dedications, 
and accompanying letters. J. F. BENSE. 

Arnhem, the Netherlands. 

In bygone times threads, wools, and 
sewing silks were universally sold in skeins. 
To prevent entanglement, the ladies would 
take a half sheet of letter-paper note-paper 
was not used in those days and fold it in 
four. The skein would be opened, and its 
two sides put under the outer sides of the 
paper ; the two middle sides would then be 
doubled together ; and generally the paper 
was fastened by a bit of thread being tied 
about an inch from each end of it. The 
skein was cut at one end ; and when a 
needleful was required, it was drawn 
through the paper from the uncut end. 

As old letters were frequently used for 
the purpose, it is easy to see how one's letter 
was put among the thread-papers. 

S. S. M'DowALL. 

[MR. TOM JONES and MB. W. NORMAN also 
thanked for replies.] 



BENJAMIN BATHURST (11 S. iii. 46). 
The best account of the " disappearance " of 
this diplomat with which I am acquainted 
is in the first series of Mr. Baring-Gould's 
' Historic Oddities and Strange Events ' 
(1889). The article originally appeared in 
The Cornhill Magazine, vol. Iv. p. 279 et seq. 

The skeleton described in The Observer 
is not the first skeleton which has been 
suggested to be the remains of Bathurst. 
W. P. COURTNEY. 

The Morning Post gave a special account 
of the finding of the supposed skeleton of 
Benjamin Bathurst at Perleberg, the first two 
articles, written by their Berlin corre- 
spondent, appearing in the issues of 13 and 
14 December last, and on the 16th there was 
a further article entitled ' The Mystery of 
Perleberg.' The connexion of the paper 
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articles were written with special knowledge 
of the circumstances attending the dis- 
appearance of Benjamin Bathurst. 

ROLAND AUSTIN. 
Public Library, Gloucester. 

The Morning Post of 13 December, 1910, 
had at p. 7 two columns on this subject. 
This article was followed up in succeeding 
issues, including one on the 16th. The issue 
for the 24th contained a long and very 
important letter from the great-niece of the 
diplomatist, signed Katharine Bathurst, and 
dated 20 December from 10, Bloomfield 
Terrace. This letter occupies over two 
columns. There is also another short letter 
from a niece by marriage of the Hon. 
Algernon Percy, the fianct of one of Benjamin 
Bathurst's daughters, signed Emmeline 
Drummond, and dated 23 December from 
Bardon Hill, Leicester. 

As the skeleton to which L. L. K. alludes 
was smashed into fragments before the 
authorities came on the scene, it is unlikely 
that its discovery will throw any light on the 
old mystery. JOHN B. WAINEWBIGHT. 
[W. H. B. B. also thanked for reply.] 

FIFIELD ALLEN, ARCHDEACON OF MIDDLE- 
SEX (US. ii. 449, 517). In his will, dated 
19 November, 1756, Dr. Allen mentions his 
wife by name as Frances, she being then 
alive ; therefore he must have been twice 
married not once merely, as would be 
inferred from my communication at the 
second reference. WILLIAM MCMTJRRAY. 

THACKERAY AND THE STAGE (11 S. iii. 
28). Thackeray contributed ' Jeames's 
Diary ' to Punch from 16 August, 1845 ; 
and the last instalment appeared on 
31 January, 1846. In this it is stated that 
Jeames de la Pluche had only one thing in 
life to complain of that a witless version 
of his adventures had been produced at 
the Princess's Theatre, "without your 
leaf, or by your leaf." I have hitherto 
failed to trace the date and particulars of 
this production. Can any one assist me ? 

S. J. A. F. 

THACKERAY'S LAST WORDS (11 S. iii. 47). 
Dickens (see " National Edition " of his 
works, vol. xxxiv. p. 453) wrote an ' In 
Memoriam : W. M. Thackeray ' in The 
Cornhill Magazine of February, 1864. In 
this paper he speaks of going over " all that 
he had written of his latest and last story," 
and the next paragraph begins : 

"The last line he wrote, and the last propt he 
corrected, are among the papers through which I 



have so sorrowfully made my way. The condition of 
the little pages of manuscript where Death stopped 
his hand, shows that he had carried them about and 
often taken them out of his pocket here and there, 
for patient revision and interlineation. The last 
words he corrected in print, were, * And my heart 
throbbed with an exquisite bliss.' " 

NEL MEZZO. 

Thackeray was found dead on the morning 
of 24 December, 1863, not that of Christmas 
Day. A. N. Q. 

MATTHEW PRIOR'S BIRTHPLACE (11 S. 
iii. 47). In 'The Life of Matthew Prior,' 
prefacing his ' Poetical Works,' printed for 
and under the direction of G. Cawthorn, 
British Library, Strand, 1797, it is stated 
that the poet was the son of Mr. George Prior, 
joiner and citizen of London, where he was 
born 21 July, 1664. 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 

The following reference to a Matthew Prior 
is given for what it is worth. John Fawconer 
of Kingsclere, Hants, Esq., refers in his will 
(P.C.C. 708 Wootton), dated 21 June, 1658, 
to " Matthew Prior and his wife." Places 
mentioned in the will are Thatcham, Berks, 
Winchester, and Salisbury. F. S. SNELL. 

The admirable and fully annotated edition 
of Johnson's ' Lives of the Poets ' by Dr. 
Birkbeck Hill (Clarendon Press, 1905) might 
be consulted with advantage. See vol. ii. 
p. 180. NEL MEZZO. 

[MR. M. L. R. BBESLAR also thanked for reply.] 

WILLIAM FITZGERALD, BISHOP OF CLON- 
FERT (11 S. ii. 489; iii. 53). He was the 
elder son of John FitzGerald, Dean of 
Cork (1628), by Catherine, 6th dau. of 
Richard Boyle, Archbishop of Tuam (1638- 
1644) ; was born in Cork in 1641, educated 
there under Mr. Bate, and matriculated at 
Trin. Coll, Dublin, 22 June, 1660, aged 19. 
His degrees are not recorded. He was 
appointed Dean of Cloyne 13 June, 1671 ; 
Archdeacon of Ross 24 Nov., 1675 ; and 
Bishop of Clonfert and Kilmacduagh 1 July, 
1691, being consecrated in Christ Church 
Cathedral, Dublin, 26 July following. He 
m. 1st, in July, 1684, Letitia, 2nd dau. of 
Sir John Cole, 1st Bt., of Newlands, co. 
Dublin ; and 2ndly Salisbury, 2nd dau. 
of Sir Thomas Taylor, 1st Bt., of Kells, co. 
Meath ; but left no issue. He d. 7 Aug., 
1722. His widow m. 2ndly General James 
Crofts, and d. at Bath 5 Jan., 1724. 

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ATJTHOBS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (US. 
iii. 48). The authorship of 

The kiss of the sun for pardon 
was mentioned in The Spectator of 14 
January. It was ascribed to D. F. Gurney. 

R. B. 
Upton. 

CANONS, MIDDLESEX : " ESSEX " AS 
CHRISTIAN NAME (US. ii. 328, 374, 394, 437, 
534). Sir Thomas Lake (1567 ? 1630), 
Secretary of State and elder brother of 
Arthur Lake, Bishop of Bath and Wells, 
purchased the estate of Canons in 1604. His 
third son, Lancelot (d. 1646), left a son 
Lancelot, who was M.P. for Middlesex in the 
Convention of 1660 and in the Parliament of 
1661, was knighted at Whitehall on 6 June, 
1660, and died in 1680. Sir Lancelot had 
two sons, Thomas and Warwick. 

The elder son, Thomas, who was knighted 
on 4 December, 1670, married Rebecca, 
daughter of Sir John Langham of Cotes- 
brooke, and had a daughter Mary, first wife 
of James Brydges, first Duke of Chandos, 
to whom the estate of Canons ultimately 
passed. 

The younger son Warwick Lake, married 
the heiress of Sir Thomas Gerard, Bt., of 
Flambards, Harrow-on-the-Hill, and was 
father of Launcelot Charles Lake, and grand- 
father of Gerard Lake, first Viscount Lake 
of Delhi and Leswarree, general. 

Sir Gilbert Gerard, Attorney - General, 
and ten members of his family ; Warwick 
and Launcelot Charles Lake ; and both 
the Dukes of Chandos, were, at various 
periods, governors of Harrow School. 

The singular topographical Christian name 
of Essex may possibly be a surname used 
as a Christian name. There are five 
instances in the ' D.N.B.' of Essex as a 
surname. But a brother of Essex, Lady 
Drax, was named Warwick Lake. Whom 
did Sir Lancelot marry ? 

Thomas Hussey of Edmundsham, Dorset, 
who died in 1684, aged 54,' married Phila- 
delphia, daughter of Essex Pawlet, Esq., 
by Frances, daughter of Sir Nathaniel 
Napier or Napper. Here Essex is a man's 
Christian name. I shall be much obliged 
if any of your readers can tell me what 
relation this Essex Pawlet was to that 
truculent Cavalier Sir John Poulett or 
Pawlet, first Baron Poulett (15861649). 
I believe they were akin. 

A. R. BAYLEY. 

Some years ago an officer in a regiment 
of Kent Volunteers had Essex for a Christian 



name possibly a survival of the old custom 
of a son having the surname of the mother 
for a Christian name. 

There was a family named Essex seated at 
Lambourne, Berks, which claimed pre- 
Norman descent from a family in the county 
of Essex (Ashmole, ' Berks,' ii. 237). There 
is a pedigree of a London family so called in 
Harl. Soc. Pub., i. 81. A. RHODES. 

Lady Lettice Lake (mother of Sir Launce- 
lot Lake) was a Rich of Essex, and in that 
family Essex was used as a feminine Christian 
name. The third daughter of Robert Rich, 
3rd Earl of Warwick, was christened Essex, 
I think in memory of her rather notorious 
great-grandmother Penelope (sister of the 
Earl of Essex), who married Robert, 3rd 
Baron Rich, and afterwards 1st Earl of 
Warwick ; but see ' Mary Rich, Countess of 
Warwick, 1625-1678,' by Miss Charlotte 
Fell-Smith. A. T. W. 

Essex as a Christian name is not very 
rare ; it occurs, for instance, in the family 
of Selby Lowndes, and, I think, also in that 
of Knightley. OLD SABUM. 

"ENNOMIC" (11 S. iii. 9). A "deed 
ennomic " is a legal instrument, the adjec- 
tive being derived from li/vo/xo?, lawful, 
legal. N. W. HILL. 

[MB, W. SCOTT makes the same suggestion, and 
refers to Liddell and Scott.] 

CORPSE BLEEDING IN PRESENCE OF THE 

MURDERER (US. ii. 328, 390, 498 ; iii. 35). 
The Hertfordshire story referred to by MR. 
GERISH (US. ii. 390) is to be found in ' The 
Wonders of the Universe ; or, Curiosities of 
Nature and Art,' 1824, otherwise called ' The 
New Wonderful and Entertaining Magazine,' 
p. 599. The account is said to have been 
found in the papers of Sir John Maynard, 
one of the Lords Commissioners of the Great 
Seal of England. The murdered woman is 
there called Johan Norkett, wife of Arthur 
Norkett. According to this account, May- 
nard wrote the evidence as he heard it given 
at the bar of the King's Bench before Sir 
Nicholas Hyde, Chief Justice. 

The first verdict of the coroner's jury was 
" felo de se," but when it " was not yet 
drawn into form " they changed their minds, 
and requested the coroner to have the body 
taken out of the grave. Then they changed 
their verdict. There was a trial at Hertford 
Assizes, resulting in a verdict of acquittal. 
The child of the murdered woman appealed 
against his father, grandmother, and aunt, 
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given by "an ancient and grave person, 
minister of the parish where the murder was 
committed." 

He swore that when the body had been 
taken out of the grave and laid upon the 
grass thirty days after death, the four 
defendants were required to touch the body. 

" Okerman's wife fell upon her knees, and 
prayed God to show tokens of her innocence, or 
to some such purpose her very words I [i.e. 
Maynard] have forgot. The appellees did touch the 
body, whereupon the brow of the dead, which 
before was a livid and carrion colour, (that was 
the verbal expression iriterminis of the witness,) 
began to have a dew or gentle sweat arise upon 
it, which increased by degrees till the sweat ran 
down in drops upon the face, the brow turned and 
changed to a lively and fresh colour, and the dead 
opened one of her eyes and shut it again, and this 

rning the eye was done three several times ; 
likewise thrust out the ring or marriage finger 
three several times, and pulled it in again, and 
the finger dropped blood on the grass." 

Sir Nicholas Hyde appeared to doubt this 
evidence. But the evidence given by the 
ancient and grave minister was confirmed 
by his brother, " minister of the parish 
adjacent," " viz. the sweating of the brow, 
changing of its colour, opening of the eye, 
and the thrice motion of the finger, and 
drawing it in again." Presumably the 
bleeding was included, as the confirmation 
was " in every point." " The first witness 
added, that ' he himself dipped his finger 
in the blood which came from the dead 
body, to examine it,' and he swore he believed 
it was blood." 

There was some circumstantial evidence 
against the grandmother of the child and the 
two Okermans. All excepting Okerman 
were found guilty. The grandmother and 
the father (husband of the dead woman) 
were executed. Mrs. Okerman was spared, 
being with child. Maynard adds that he 
inquired whether the other two confessed 
anything at their execution, but they did not, 
as he was told. The case happened in the 
fourth year of Charles I., i.e., 27 March, 1628, 
to 26 March, 1629. 

In The. Gentleman's Magazine, 1796, 
part ii. p. 636, among many questions is this : 
" What grounds are there to imagine that 
the wounds of a murdered person will bleed 
on being touched by the murderer ? " 

ROBERT PIERPOINT. 

SPEAKER'S CHAIR OF THE OLD HOUSE OF 
COMMONS (US. ii. 128, 177, 218, 331 ; iii. 
50). The communication from the Librarian 
of the Parliament of the Commonwealth, 
Melbourne, adds increased interest to the 
subject under consideration ; yet it does not 
prove that the Melbourne chair is the old 



chair used in the House of Commons 
previous to the fire of 1834. Viscount 
Canterbury presented the Melbourne chair 
39 years after the destruction of the Houses 
of Parliament, and 34 years after the Duke 
of Sussex had visited Sunderland, when he 
sat in the old chair " which was formerly 
the Speaker's Chair of the old House of 
Commons, preserved from the fire which 
destroyed the two Houses of Parliament in 
1834." The evidence I have given in my 
previous communications to * N. & Q.' is 
associated with the actual individual workers 
of the period : the Duke of Sussex, uncle to 
Queen Victoria ; the Earl of Durham, one of 
the chief promoters of the Reform Bill of 
1832 ; and Sir Cuthbert Sharp, historian 
and antiquary, also a high official under the 
Crown. Surely such public reports of this 
visit to Sunderland as I have reproduced 
would not have been allowed to go un- 
challenged by such influential personages 
had they not been correct, especially as 
they were given only five years after the 
destruction of the House of Commons, when 
the investigations by .the Lords of the 
Council as to the cause of the fire would be 
fresh in the minds of the public. 

It does not follow, however, that Viscount 
Canterbury, son of the Speaker of the House 
of Commons, did not present, in 1873, the 
Speaker's Chair of the temporary House of 
Commons, used from the time of the fire in 
1834 until 4 November, 1852, when the 
Commons assembled for the[first time in their 
new House. There would at that time be 
two Speaker's Chairs : the old one rescued 
from the fire, and the one used in the 
temporary building. It is reasonable to 
suppose that Viscount Canterbury would 
secure the more modern chair when he 
decided to make a present to the Common- 
wealth, for it has great historic interest. 
I have written to MR. WADSWORTH, asking 
him to favour me with a copy of his lordship's 
letter when he made the presentation 
for the inscription on the chair would be by 
another hand. From this we shall be better 
a,ble to judge of the history of the chair his 
lordship sent to Melbourne, and it will be a 
valuable addition to the history of our 
English Parliament. A photograph of the 
Melbourne chair will enable us to compare 
the two chairs, and allow them to be 
examined by experts in old workmanship 
and designs. 

One good result of this investigation has 
been the discovery that two valuable relics 
of our national Parliament have been 
preserved. JOHN ROBINSON. 

Delaval House, Sunderland. 



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By a slip, MB. WADSWOKTH, in his interest- 
ing and informing communication, says it 
-was the second Viscount Canterbury who 
"was once Governor of Victoria. It was 
John Henry Thomas, the third, his elder 
brother, Charles John, second Viscount, 
having died unmarried in 1869, and he him- 
self passing away eight years later. 

POLITICIAN. 

COUNT OP THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 
<11 S. ii. 509; iii. 54). Surely the Pope 
claims and exercises the power of creating 
Counts of the Holy Roman Empire. I 
know one created by Pio Nono. 

R. W. P. 

Miss PASTBANA (11 S. ii. 29). In * Relic- 
ta,' the volume published shortly before his 
death by Mr. Arthur Munby, the first poem 
is entitled . ' Pastrana.' It opens with a 
description of the striking proceedings of a 
large baboon, which the observer notes in a 
suburban garden of a Continental city. 
Presently, in the dining saloon of his hotel, 
his attention is arrested by the appearance 
of a fashionably dressed lady of singular 
aspect, who partakes copiously of the viands 
provided, and does not otherwise materially 
differ from the dining crowd. She sits out 
all except the narrator, who finds himself 
fascinated by her presence and held spell- 
bound by her gaze. At length a man with a 
net, energetically supported by the waiters, 
secures the festive personage, who proves to 
be none other than the strange monkey of 
the suburban pleasure-ground. Respond- 
ing to a request for information on his theme, 
Mr. Munby wrote : " ' Pastrana ' is partly 
based on fact. I saw her, and told Charles 
Darwin about her." THOMAS BAYNE. 

If one may infer plurality of persons from 
diversity of accounts, there must have been 
several Miss Pastranas during last century. 
Writing before 1864, Chambers (' Book of 
Days,' ii. 255) speaks of. an unfortunate 
creature, Julia Pastrana by name, who 
"a few years ago " was exhibited in London. 
She was sometimes popularly known as 
" the pig-faced lady," but Chambers 
describes the lower part of her face as 
more resembling a dog than a pig. A 
Spanish-American by birth, she was ex- 
hibited (nothing is said about dancing) in 
this country for a time, and then on the 
Continent, where she died. Her embalmed 
remains were subsequently exposed to the 
gaze of the curious at a_charge of so much 
per head. 



Somewhere I have read (probably in some 
modern chap-book) that Julia Pastrana 
possessed a body exquisitely formed, but 
surmounted by a face of grotesque and 
hideous ugliness. As this does not 
apparently agree with L. L. K.'s recollection 
of her, it is probable that many similar 
printed accounts are highly exaggerated. 

SCOTUS. 

I have in my scrapbook a portrait of Julia 
Pastrana. The sheet is 18 inches by 
12 inches, the figure on it 9 inches. At 
the top is 

Julia Pastrana 
As she now appears 

embalmed. 
On each side is 

Burlington Gallery 
191 Piccadilly. 

At the bottom is 

The above is a correct portraiture of this most 
marvellous specimen of modern embalming. 
Open daily from HA.M. to 9 P.M. 

Admission one shilling. 

The figure is very well done, and exactly 
as I remember seeing it in, I think, 1860 or 
1861. H. A. ST. J. M. 

" BOLTON FFAIBE GBOATES " (11 S. ii. 

467). There is not enough information put 
forward to enable a satisfactory reply to be 
given. The groats may be certain fees 
paid at the fair time, or tolls, to some one 
claiming them. The vicar of a riverside 
parish claimed "chaplain's groats" from the 
King's ships lying in the Thames (' States 
Papers Dom., Chas. II.,' vol. 283, 27). Does 
the date of the payment coincide with the 
date of Bolton Fair ? A. RHODES. 

CANOVA'S BUSTS OF MABS AND MINEBVA 
(11 S. ii. 528). In Melchior Missirini's work 
entitled ' Delia Vita di Antonio Canova 
Libri Quattro,' 3rd ed., Milano, 1825, there 
is no mention of any such busts having been 
executed by this famous sculptor At the 
end of the volume a ' Chronological Cata- 
logue ' is given of his acknowledged works, 
which begins in 1772, and is continued till 
the year of his death, 1822. This list was 
put together for the most part during his 
lifetime because he did not wish to have 
any works attributed to him which were not 
his own : " e non fosse indotta in errore la 
posterita su falsi supposti, resi autorevoli 
dal suo silenzio " (p 470). One may there- 
fore conclude that these " colossal marble 
busts of Mars and Minerva .... hidden away 
in a country house long before Canova same 
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did not choose to acknowledge them. We 
learn, however, from the ' Catalogue ' that 
in 1790 he sculptured an * Amorino ' on 
commission for an Irish gentleman namec 
La Touche (p. 472). JOHN T. CUBBY. 

Busts of Mars and Minerva by Canova are 
I believe, entirely unknown. If MABS 
wishes to compare other sculptured figures 
with the busts he names, he might examine 
the various groups of the Elgin Marbles a1 
the British Museum. Perhaps even a visit 
to the gallery of statuary at the Roya 
Institution, Edinburgh, and an examination 
of the various gods and goddesses represented 
there, might be worth the trouble taken. 

SCOTUS. 

COBN AND DISHONESTY : AN HONEST 
MILLER (11 S. ii. 508; iii. 12, 57). Millers 
are evidently suspected in many lands. 
When, a number of years ago, I made several 
trips on the Danube, I was always amused 
at the way in which the Slovak raftsmen 
provoked the young Magyar millers on 
the floating mills they passed. The chal- 
lengers' were as a rule the millers, who would 
greet the raftsmen with a derisive " Jano 
Kuk" or "Upr6 Jano," in themselves quite 
innocent calls, but evidently with a tale 
hanging thereby ; whereupon John would 
make a gesture imitating the millers pocket- 
ing their customers' corn. This was always 
considered a casus belli. L. L. K. 

A phrase in MB. RATCLIFFE'S reply at the 
last reference recalls to my memory that in 
the late seventies a village school-feast 
game (of the drop-the-handkerchief order) 
used to be accompanied in East Notts with 
the following rime : 

There was a jolly miller, and he lived by himself, 
And the mill went round, and he earned his pelf : 
One hand on the hopper, and the other in the bag, 
And the mill went round, and he earned his swag. 
I cannot remember that there was any more 
of it, but perhaps some one else oan. 

H. K. ST. J. S. 

[There is but the one verse, we believe. When 
children use it, the last words are generally 
changed to "he made his grab," the principal 
feature of the game being that the child in the 
centre has to try to " grab " the arm of one of 
the children in the ring when they are changing 
partners at the end of the verse.] 

SMITHS OF PABNDON, HEBTFOBDSHIBE 
(11 S. ii. 427). William Smith, a London 
merchant, residing at Parndon House, near 
Harlow, Essex, represented Sudbury in 
1796. In 1802 he was returned for Norwich, 
but was defeated in 1806. He regained the 



seat, however, the following year, and was 
still acting as its representative in 1814. 
His town address was 5, Park Street, West- 
minster. In 1818 his daughter Frances 
married William Edward Shore (born 1794, 
died 1874), who assumed the name of Nightin- 
gale under the will of his grand-uncle 
Peter Nightingale. 

William Smith of Parndon had other 
children. One of these, Benjamin, repre- 
sented Norwich in Parliament 1838-47, and 
died in 1860. Another, Samuel, younger 
brother of Benjamin, resided at Embley, 
Hants, formerly the abode of the Nightin- 
gales. I am not aware of any pedigree of 
the Smiths of Parndon. W. S. S. 

REV. SEBASTIAN PITFIELD'S GHOST (11 S. 
ii. 367, 510). Mr. Caswell's letter to Dr. 
Bent-ley, H[art] Hfall, Oxford], 15 Dec., 
1695, with Mr. Wilkins's account of the 
apparition, Oxon., 11 Dec., 1695, from the 
Trin. Coll. Camb. Collection, will be found 
in Bentley's ' Correspondence,' 1842, vol. i. 
pp. 103-9. R. H. EDLESTON, F.S.A. 

Gainford. 

CHUBCH WITH WOODEN BELL-TUBBET 
(11 S. iii. 10). In many respects the small 
church at Newington, near Folkestone, 
answers to the description given by W. B. H. 
I am aware that lately this quaint old 
turret was threatened with improvements. 
HABOLD MALET, Col. 

Churches with detached bell-towers and 
I presume that by this is meant gabled or 
turret bells occur at Spalding, Fleet, 
Berkeley, Torrington, Pembridge, Bosbury, 
Richard's Castle, Ledbury and Yarpole, 
Beccles, Walton, Woburn, Mylor, Brynnlys, 
Hennlan, Llangyfelach, Gunwalloe, East 
Dereham, Marston - Morteyne, Lap worth, 
Elstow, Magdalen and New Colleges (Oxford), 
Dunblane, and Kilkenny. At Talland, says 
Mr. Mackenzie Walcott, a covered way con- 
nects it with the church (see Walcott's 
' Sacred Archaeology,' 1868, p. 217). 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 

' THE FLYING DUTCHMAN '(US. iii. 48). 
The Flying Dutchman and other Poems,' 
was published in 1881, E. M. [? Ellen Mary] 
Clerke being the author. Part II. of the 
m, ' The Curse,' appeared in ' Women's 
Voices,' edited by Mrs. William Sharp, 1887, 
>p. 350-56. The tale is the old legend of 
V"anderdecken the Dutchman, compelled to 
ail the seas till the day of doom. In Part 
I. the metre does not correspond with the 
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Miss Clerke did not adhere to the same 
measure throughout the poem. The last 
stanza given in ' Women's Voices ' is as 
follows : 

A wraith along the deep she goes, 

Till nearing swift and pale, 
Upon the fated wreck she throws 

The shadow of her sail. 
And through the storm with hollow chime 

A spectral hail they hear, 
" How goes the world ? Methinks 'twere time 

That Doomsday should appear ! " 

W. S. S. 

SPIDER'S WEB AND FEVER (US. ii. 109, 
194). The spider was efficacious as a cure 
not only for whooping cough, but also for 
ague. I have in my library a well-marked 
book which Dr. Johnson said made him get 
out of bed earlier than usual to read. It 
has not had that effect upon me, but it has 
caused me to sit up later than usual to read 
a portion. Needless to say, I refer to 
Burton's ' Anatomy of Melancholy.' The 
author is dealing with amulets : 

" A ring, made of the hoofe of an asses right 
forefoot, carried about, &e., I say with Renodeus, 
they are not altogether to be rejected. Piony 
doth cure epilepsie; pretious stones most 
diseases ; a wolfs dung, born with one, helps the 
colick ; a spider an ague, &c. Being in the 
country in the vacation time not many years 
since, at Lindly in Leicestershire, my fathers 
house, I first observed this amulet of a spider in a 
nut-shell lapped in silke, &c., so applied for an 
ague by my mother : whom although I knew to 
have excellent skill in chirurgery, sore eyes, 
aches, &c. and such experimental medicines, as all 
the country where she dwelt can witness, to have 
done many famous and good cures upon divers 
poor folks, that were otherwise destitute of help 
yet, among all other experiments, this, me- 
thought, was most absurd and ridiculous : I could 
see no warrant for it. Quid aranecK cum febre? 
For what antipathy? till at length, rambling 
amongst authors (as often I do), I found this very 
medicine in Dioscorides, approved by Matthiolus, 
repeated by Aldrovandus, cap. de Araned, lib. dc 
inserhs. I began to have a better opinion of it, 
and to give more credit to amulets, when I saw 
it m some parties answer to experience." 
Part. 2, sec. 5, mem. 1, sub. 5. 

I am quoting from p. 459 of the seven- 
teenth edition, which is not in the British 
Museum Library, but seems only a large - 
paper copy of the sixteenth. A. RHODES. 

CORONER OF THE VERGE (11 S. iii. 30). 
The verge or virge (virgata) was the compass 
ot the King's Court, comprehending a circuit 
oi 12 miles round the residence of the King's 
Courts (13 Ric. II. c. 3). Ancientlv at 
Common Law the Coroner of the Verge" had 
an exempt jurisdiction within the verge, to 
the exclusion of the county coroner (4 Rep. 



But owing to the King's Court being 
3, great delay and failure of justice 



46 b.). 
movable, 

often arose, and many felonies committed 
within the verge remained unpunished. The 
statute Articuli super Cartas (28 Edw. I. 
c. 3) was therefore passed. It provided 
that the county coroner should be associated 
with the Coroner of the Verge. By 
33 Hen. VIII. c. 12 deaths within the 
precincts of the King's palace were to be 
inquired into by the Coroner of the King's 
Household alone ; while those without the 
precincts, but within the verge, were to be 
held, as before, by the two coroners. By the 
Coroners Act, 1887 (50 and 51 Viet. c. 71, 
sch. 3), repealing 28 Edw. I. c. 3, the jurisdic- 
tion of the verge is entirely abolished, and 
becomes absorbed in that of the county 
coroner, while the precincts of the palace 
remain as before. Sec. 29 provides for the 
appointment of the Coroner of the King's 
Household by the Lord Steward, his jurisdic- 
tion, and the procedure of his courts in nine 
elaborate subsections. 

WYNNE E. BAXTER. 

For information concerning the Coroner 
of the Verge Britton may be consulted 
(vol. i. p. 4 of Mr. F. M. Nichols's edition) ; 
as also the Introductions to vols. ix. and 
xxiv. of ' the publications of the Selden 
Society. The office still survives, and J. R. 
Mellor, Esq., the Senior Master of the 
Supreme Court, is the present incumbent. 

W. C. BOLLAND. 
Lincoln's Inn. 

Bacon wrote a paper on this subject, 
printed (if I remember rightly) in a posthum- 
ous collection entitled ' Resuscitatio.' 

W. C. B. 

Helpful N. Bailey supplies : 

" Verge (of the Court), the compass or extent of 
the King's Court, formerly of twelve miles extent 
within the jurisdiction of the Lord High Steward 
of the King's Houshold, called so from the Verge 
or staff which the Marshal bears." 

In Saxon times the privilege of the King's 
palace extended from its gate to the distance 
of 3 miles, 3 fur longs 3 acres 9 feet, 9 palms, 
and 9 barleycorns (Thoms's 'Book of the 
Court,' p. 302 n., citing Blackstone's * Com- 
mentaries,' Book III. c. 6, s. iv.). 

ST. SWITHIN. 

CLUB ETRANGER AT HANOVER SQUARE 
(11 S. ii. 407, 477). MR. ALECK ABRAHAMS 
is, no doubt, correct in connecting " La Salle 
du Festino " with the Queen's Concert, 
or (as they were more familiarly known) the 
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assemblies, concerts, readings, and lectures 
(see 9 S. v. 354). My impression is that the 
name " Cercle des Etrangers," to which 
MR. ABRAHAMS refers, was at one time 
linked with that of the St. George's Club 
which occupied the premises until they were 
razed for the erection of the inevitable pile 
of flats. The historic " room " became the 
dining-room of the Club, and its dis- 
appearance was regretted by many because 
of past memories. Some fine mural orna- 
mentations vanished also, nobody appears to 
know whither. CECIL CLARKE. 

Junior Athenaeum Club. 

"CARENT" (11 S. iii. 9). I would 
venture to suggest that the word " carent " 
falls into the category of legal macaronics. 
It is simply equivalent to the word " rent." 
The third person plural of the Latin verb 
careo, " I want," it applies equally to the 
position of landlord or of tenant. " Rent " 
is what tenants frequently want, or are 
destitute of. It is also what landlords some- 
times anxiously inquire after, but are 
destined not to receive. Hence " carent "- 
moneys which they want, but which are not 
forthcoming. SCOTUS. 

SONGS OF THE PEASANTRY (11 S. iii. 47) 
Is MR. GRAHAM acquainted with * Songs and 
Ballads of the West ' ? There are one 
hundred and ten of them, collected by the 
Rev. S. Baring-Gould and the Rev. H. Fleet- 
wood Sheppard from old people living on and 
around Dartmoor, and set by them to music. 
Probably the best known of the ballads is 
* Widdecombe Fair.' So far as Devon- 
shire is concerned, there is no other collection 
equal to this. A. J. DAVY. 

Torquay. 

INSCRIPTIONS IN CHURCHES AND CHURCH- 
YARDS (11 S. ii. 389, 453, 492, 537 ; iii. 57). 
During the greater part of 1893 my spare 
time was spent in Woolwich Churchyard 
copying the inscriptions on the gravestones 
before their removal so that the old grave- 
yard might be turned into a public garden, 
which was eventually done. I had the 
countenance, and to some extent the help, 
of the late Dr. Howard (Maltravers Herald) 
and Mr. Leland Duncan. There were 1,255 
numbered gravestones, some of which were 
fully inscribed on both sides. The work 
proceeded slowly, and at the end of the 
year I had transcribed the inscriptions on 
922 stones ; and as the work of removing 
them began early in the following year, 
my task came to an untimely end. Mr. F. A. 
Crisp of Denmark Hill was the originator 



i one presumably a stonemason, 
'tainly a wag added the following 



of the design of preserving the inscriptions, 
and to him I handed my unfinished work. 
I believe it was his intention to publish the 
names among his " Fragmenta," but I do 
not know if this was done. 

It is fortunate that so many inscriptions 
have been preserved, as during the work of 
removal, although great care was taken, 
many stones were, I know, destroyed. The 
legible dates ranged from 1700 to 1855. 

I have preserved a copy of the schedule 
of names and dates prepared by the legal 
authorities before the removal, as well as a 
copy of their plan showing the relative 
position of each of the 1,255 graves. 

One of my discoveries was a forgotten 
" comic " headstone which had been a source 
of great annoyance to the then Rector 
(Greenlaw). It held an inscription to 
Emmanuel Shipper, who died in 1842, and 
after his name and date was cut the following 
distich : 

As I am now so will you be, 
Therefore prepare to follow me. 

Some one i 
and cert 
lines : 

To'follow you I 'm not intent 

Till first I know which way you went. 

WM. NORMAN. 
Plums tead. 

WILLIAM JOSEPH LOCKWOOD (11 S. iii. 29). 
It was William Lockwood the father, not 
William Joseph Lockwood the son, who, 
according to Burke's ' Landed Gentry,' was 
" shot blind at Westminster School in a 
battle against the mob." See 1858 edition, 
p. 1349. William Joseph Lockwood, who 
was Verderer of Epping Forest and a captain 
in the Coldstream Guards, died in 1854. 

W. SCOTT. 

THE THREE WISHES (11 S. ii. 506). This 
story is also told in Brittany. It will be 
found in Mrs. E. W. Rinder's ' The Shadow 
of Arvor,' under the title of ' Devil-may- 
Care.' The hero is a blacksmith who 
had formerly been a soldier. St. Peter, 
as in the version recorded by MR. NICHOL- 
SON, accompanies the Lord. H. I. B. 

KNOTS IN HANDKERCHIEFS : INDIAN 
CUSTOM (US. ii. 506 ; iii. 35). At 4 S. xi. 
53 I showed that the custom is alluded to in 
' The Ancren Riwle,' p. 396, i.e., it is as old 
as A.D. 1225 in England. This was reprinted 
in my ' Student's Pastime,' p. 73. 

WALTER W. SKEAT. 



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BLACKSTONE'S ' COMMENTARIES,' FIRST 
EDITION (10 S. xii. 385). I think that MR. 
W. R. B. PRIDEATJX will find some altera- 
tion in the treatment of the ^ copyright 
question, as to which Blackstone's opinion 
was confirmed by the Courts. Q. V. 

WHYTEHEER OR WHYTEBEER (US. ii. 228, 
318, 378, 511). The ' N.E.D.' has not yet 
reached W, but under " taw," ix. 117, col. 3, 
it quotes " Whittawer " of the date 1474. 

W. C. B. 



on 



The Oxford English Dictionary. Sauce-alone 
Scouring (Vol. VIII.). Edited by Henry 
Bradley. TTealf. (Vol. IX.) Edited by 
Sir James A. H. Murray. (Oxford, Clarendon 
Press.) 

THE ' NEW ENGLISH DICTIONARY ' has made 
such steady and continuous advance as to put a 
heavy tax on the time of the conscientious re- 
viewer who studies every page of it with care. 
There should, however, be no fear of ' N. & Q.' 
being indifferent to the progress of a splendid 
work to which it is continually devoting the 
research of its contributors. Last July ' Sauce- 
alone Scouring ' (Vol VIII.) appeared, edited 
by Mr. Henry Bradley ; and last October ' T 
Tealt ' (Vol. IX.), under Sir James Murray's care. 
These two parts show the admirable skill and 
patient research which make the ' Dictionary ' 
a delight to all serious students of English. The 
elaborate analysis of the various senses of a word 
will not strike the ordinary reader, perhaps, so 
much as other features of the scheme ; but all 
experts in language must recognize the great 
success attained in this, possibly the most difficult 
part of lexicography. Johnson's definitions are 
occasionally utilized as a beginning, but a minute 
and careful separation of senses follows which 
must have been the outcome of much time and 
thought. 

Foreign and dialectic words are freely included 
in the scheme, which also extends to words now 
current only outside England. 

Nothing is more difficult than to guess at the 
length of time during which any word has been 
used, and the ' Dictionary ' by its wealth of dated 
examples has in this respect sa long outstripped 
all competitors that it is not necessary to quote 
the statistics provided at the beginning of each 
section. 

The mere fact that a whole section is needed for 
"sauce-alone" to "scouring" shows the ex- 
tended scale on which the ' Dictionary ' is planned. 
Dr. Bradley has no common words to deal with 
which need treating at great length, " say " 
occupying the most room. The literature of 
learning is, however, well exhibited in " science," 
and " school " with its many cognates. The 
colloquial " saucebox," of persons, goes back as 
far as 1588. It is pointed out that " sauciness " 
and " saucy " have grown milder in their mean- 
ing of late years. That specially German condi- 
ment, " Sauerkraut, "^hasVon its way into English, 



and is followed by " saufey," " saught," and 
" saulee " terms obscure to the ordinary reader 
and now obsolete. "Saunter" is described as 
of obscure origin, and the derivation suggesting 
" to venture oneself," is regarded as " phono- 
logically inadmissible." The number of spellings 
given for " sausage " is remarkable, and still more 
its actual varieties, which are said to exceed 150. 
We are glad to find Dickens quoted more than 
once for the word and its derivatives. The same 
page gives us words so different as " savant " and 
" savate." " Save " is a capital instance of 
idioms well differentiated. "Saw" includes 
several special combinations from the United 
States. Under " sawyer " is a third section 
marked " U.S." ; but the last quotation given 
therein explains " snags " and " sawyers," which 
occur in combination in Dickens. 

" Say-so "=mere word or dictum, is an effect- 
ive piece of English which is current now only in 
America, and might be revived, as " ipse dixit " 
has taken its place here. We believe that in the 
law " scaffolding " implies the presence of a rope. 
There are two important words with the same 
spelling " scale." " Scamper " is of uncertain 
origin, but " not improbably the word was origin- 
ally military slang " of foreign origin, we hasten 
to add. Pope's " presume not God to scan " 
suggests to us the addition of a further verse 
quotation, Burns's 

Then gently scan your brother man ; 

Still gentler, sister woman, 

in the ' Address to the Unco Guid.' " Scapegoat'* 
was " apparently, invented by Tindal (1530) " 
for use in Leviticus xvi. ; but we learn that it has 
been turned out of the Revised Version, which . 
has " Azazel " instead. A " Scarborough warn- 
ing " =very short notice, or none at all, occurs 
as early as 1546. " Scavenger " is altered from 
" scavager " with intrusive n, as in '* passenger " 
and " messenger " ; the instrument of torture called 
the "Scavenger's daughter " presents, however, a 
perverted form of the inventor's name, Skeffing- 
ton. Of " scenery " of the open-air kind there is, 
as might be expected, no quotation before the 
seventeenth century was well advanced. In 
Johnson's days people preferred, we think, to 
talk of a " prospect." " Sceptred " offers a good 
display of that poetical quotation which the 
' Dictionary ' seems sometimes unduly to despise, 
for examples are provided from Shakspeare, 
Milton, Gray, Landor, and Byron. The heading 
" sch " has some Important hints as to pronuncia- 
tion. "Schiedam" and "schnapps" are both 
allied forms of drink. The slight specialization 
of meaning which "scholar" and "scholar- 
ship " have acquired is well treated* It would, 
however, be easy to add to the quotations from 
books, which we prefer to journalism or Acts of 
Parliament. Special attention is directed to the 
word " scientific," of which the true history is 
now traced for the first time to a rendering of the 
word tirivT-fifni in Aristotle. 

We end our notice of this part with two words 
of University usage. " Scio " was the formal 
testimony once given at Oxford to the fitness of a 
candidate for a degree. "Sconce" is a Uni- 
versity fine which is illustrated from our own 
columns in 1885. In its humorous form it has r 
we believe, been inflicted on dons as well as under- 
graduates, though the latter only are mentioned! 
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Beginning with T, we find some odd phrases in 
which it figures, as the " T bean ' ' of the seventeenth 
century, grown or cut in the form of that letter ; 
the " T cart," an open phaeton ; and various 



examples of the phenomenon which has given us 
" Tandry " and the more familiar " tawdry." 
That simple things are not always easy to define 
is shown by " tab," which is "A short broad strap, 
flat loop, or the like, attached by one end to an 
object, or forming a short projecting part by which 
a thing can be taken hold of, hung up, fastened, 
or pulled." The word is, we learn, not in John- 
son, and still largely dialectic. The third sense of 
" tabard," the official dress of heralds, was fre- 
quently in the papers during the announcement of 
King George's accession to the throne ; but the 
' Dictionary ' does not pretend to include the most 
modern references, and we might have done 
without the example from journalism (1903) of 
" tabard-fashion." The list of newspapers that 
really show some censorship over the wild and 
inaccurate English of their contributors is so 
small that we should pause before admitting 
several usages here recorded, and in other cases 
prefer, as we have said more than once, easily 
accessible quotations from books, which at least 
have a chance of being decently " read " before 
being submitted to the public. "Tabby" and 
" tabby-cat " are curious in their origin. The 
sense of striped silk is named from a quarter of 
Bagdad, but that of " old maid " is earlier than 
the sense of " cat," and may be derived from 
Tabitha. " Taberdar " for a senior scholar of 
Queen's College, Oxford, is first noted in 1566. 
Among the many senses of " tabernacle " is an 
" alleged term for a company of bakers," as to 
which Mr. John Hodgkin has noted in his learned 
and amusing book on ' Proper Terms ' (p. 162) that 
the " tabernacula " in question may be " little 
shops made of boords." 

" Table " is a long article, admirably arranged 
The commonest use of the word lacks verse 
quotations. The last one in prose (1853) suggests 
to us a line from Browning's ' Mr. Sludge, " the 
Medium," ' 

' May I sit, sir ? This dear old table, now ! 
or another, 

You jogged the table, your foot caused the squeak. 
There is a long list of special combinations of the 
word, from " table-allowance " to " table-work." 
There is no notice from a nineteenth-century book 
of "Table d'h6te." Oddly enough, we ^are able 
to supply one from verse. In Clough's ' Mari 
Magno ' ' The Clergyman's Tale ' has (11.63-4), 
f 'Twas easier now to face the crowded shore, 
, And table d'hdte less tedious than before. 
Under " tablet " the desire of ' Wee Macgregor ' 
(1900) for toffee has found a place. The last 

r)tation for a memorial tablet is of 1870. We 
uld have been glad for the sake of history to 
see the zeal of the L.C.C. commemorated in a 
quotation. There is curious information of a 
commercial and legal character concerning the 
use of " tabloid." " Taboo " now increasingly 
spelt, we notice, by anthropologists " tabu," 
is an important article. " Tabula rasa " has 
secured admission, and may, we hope, catch the 
eye of the sub-editor who passed some few years 
ago in the daily press the phrase " Solvuntur 
tabula rasa " ! The various words under " tache 
are confusing, but none of them is to-day much 



used by the ordinary man. " Tack " is partly 
mixed up with " Tache," and the many usages it 
covers are noteworthy. The 'definition of 
" Tackle " (vi.) in Rugby football, " To seize and" 
stop an opponent when in possession of the ball,' r 
will hardly do. Full backs would be only too 
happy if every time they tackled, they were able 
to stop. " To seize or try to stop " -would be an 
improvement in the wording. " Taffy "for Welsh- 
man appears to begin in 1700. " Tagraggery " 
is noted as " chiefly Carlylese." " Tail " is a 
long and excellent article, but it is surpassed in 
length by " take," one of the most difficult words 
to analyze and arrange which Sir James can have- 
encountered. We should have been inclined to 
associate 7, the transitive use " of an injurious or 
destructive agency, natural or supernatural,, 
magical, etc.," with 10, " to captivate, delight, 
charm " ; and pure pleasure would have impelled 
us to quote under the latter heading the 

daffodils, 

That come before the swallow dares, and take 

The winds of March with beauty. 
We are glad to see Tennyson's " So took echo with) 
delight " included, and altogether the article is a 
wonderful piece of work. 

" Talbot " (hound) is " understood to be derived, 
from the ancient English family name Talbot. ... 
but evidence is wanting." 

For " tale," a mere story, a fiction, The London 
Herald (1867) is the only quotation of the last 
century. Admirers of Sir W. S. Gilbert will 
recall the lines 

Tell a tale of cock and bull, 
Of convincing details full. 

' Mr. Sludge ' could supply a verse quotation for 
" talent," special aptitude : 

when you buy 
The actor's talent, do you dare propose 

For his soul beside ? 

" Tamal," " tamasha," and " tambouki " are- 
among foreign words which would puzzle most 
people. " Tampion," also " tompion," has, we 
note, nothing to do with the " Tompion clock " 
in ' Pickwick ' at the Bath Pump-room, sometimes 
spelt without the capital letter. This clock, 
was given by " the father of English watch- 
making " to the city of Bath in 1709. 

" Tandem " is, as a quotation from our owir 
columns in 1850 explains, " a practical pun now 
naturalized in our language." Words of such 
origin must be very rare ; we recall only " dicky," 
which is possibly TO/^, and certainly slang. We 
have always been a little doubtful about the 
meaning of the " tang " in Kate's tongue which 
made her unpopular (' Tempest,' II. ii. 52), and 
Sir James justifies our doubts. The " Tantalus " 
which holds spirits has not been traced back 
further than 1898. " Tariff Reform " begins in 
' The Century Dictionary ' (1891) as " in general 
a movement away from Protection." The 
introduction of Daudet's ' Tartarin ' into English 
is duly noted; while Moliere's "Tartufe" has 
made English nouns and adjectives. " Task," 
"taste," and " tax" are other articles of great 
interest ; and " tea," with its derivatives, occupies 
a good deal of space, being prefaced by an in- 
teresting note as to pronunciation. 

Sir James Murray and his staff have of late 
lost some devoted helpers. It is all the more- 
credit to them that they are able to make such 
regular advance in their arduous work. 



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CONTENTS.-No. 59. 

NOTES : The English Bible, 1611, 101 Crabb Robinson 
and De Quincey, 102 Pensioners in the Long Parliament, 
103 Sheridan and Bishop Hall Chateaubriand and 
Madame Lieven Michael Bruce, Logan, and 'The Ode 
to the Cuckoo,' 104 Mew or Mewes Families Temple 
Bar in 1851, 105 Brechin Lowe Family Conscience- 
Stricken : Tardy Advertisements, 106. 

QUERIES : St. William's Day at York Dom Francisco 
Manuel de Mello Pitt's Letter on Superstition Aristotle 
on Education Marine Insurance Sir Robert Peel and 
his Speeches Court Life " Bezant "Mother's Maiden 
Name as Children's Surname, 107 Leader of the House 
of Commons Lady O'Looney's Epitaph " Strike of 
Saunsons " S. G. Sloraan " -de- " : " -ty-" Aislabie 
Family, 108 Cecil Howard J. Arbuthnot C. Barbour 
Dr. J. Drake R. Heath Elizabeth Dixon, Quaker 
" Ware " Potatoes" The Almighty Dollar," 109. 

REPLIES : Milton Bibles, 109 Newenham Abbey Lady 
Conyngham, 110 Hoi well Family Thackeray and 
Pugilism Dickens : " Shallabalah " " Elze "^Already 
"Puckled," 111 "Die in beauty "Barbara de Bierle 
Geoffrey Pole 'Tit for Tat,' 112 Early Ships named 
Victory" Love me, love my dog," 113 Wet Hay Irish 
Book of Remembrance Belfast Registers Archbishop 
Cleaver Rogerson Cotter 'A Voice from the Bush,' 114 
Jeremy Smith Chertsey Cartularies Sir John Chandos 
The Black Prince's Language-Sybil, Queen of Scotland 
"Woodyer" " Terse" Claret, 116 Adders' Fat and 
Deafness Early Beefsteak Club, 117 Grange Courty- 
Owls called " Cherubims "Quaker Oats Ship lost in 
the Fifties Pauper's Badge, 118. 

NOTES ON BOOKS: 'A Quaker Post-Bag ' Reviews 
and Magazines. 

Booksellers' Catalogues. 

OBITUARY : W. L. Rutton T. Forster. 



THE ENGLISH BIBLE, 1611. 

IN the prologue to his English Bible, 1539, 
Cranmer repeated the rule of St. Gregory 
Nazianzen, " I forbid not to read, but I 
forbid to reason " (Strype's ' Cranmer,' 
1694, ii. 247). Doubtless he feared for the 
result when the book should come into the 
hands of such as disregarded the ancient 
safeguards. A century later Chillingworth 
in his ' Religion of Protestants,' 1637, 
wrote the sentence which has become the 
watchword of many : " The Bible, I say, 
the Bible only, is the religion of Protestants " 
(1846, p. 463). But these memorable words 
have been unfairly used, for their author 
again and again guards himself by acknow- 
ledging the authoritative interpretation of 
** the catholic church of all ages " (p. 16), 
" the consent and testimony of the ancient 
and primitive church " (p. 105) ; and 
declares his meaning to be " Scripture inter- 
preted by catholic written tradition" (p. 362). 
By the middle of that century a host of sects 



had arisen which had hardly anything in 
common with Chillingworth but the word 
Protestant. We have to keep these things 
in mind in estimating the importance of the 
widespread distribution of an authorized 
version. 

Whatever effect the book of 1611 had upon 
the people at large, it is certain that scholars 
and clergy were not unanimous in the 
approval or adoption of it. 

Among those who continued more or less 
to use the old version were John Denison, 
chaplain to James I., in his ' Heavenly 
Banquet,' 1619, 1631 ; Dr. John Donne, 
Dean of St. Paul's, in ' Six Sermons,' 1634, 
iii. 1, v. 11, who prefers " our former trans- 
lation" ; and Dr. William Brough, Dean of 
Gloucester, in a * Preservative against Schism,' 
at the end of his ' Manual of Devotions,' 
1659, pp. 516, 517. Bishop Pearson often 
chose to make independent renderings for 
himself in his book on the ' Creed,' 1659 ; see 
the ed. by James Nichols, 1844, pref. 

Moreover the new book did not find its 
way into all parish churches for more than 
a century. Bishop Beveridge, writing in 
1710, says that the Bishops' Bible "hath 
been read in several churches instead of the 
New, ever since, to our days " ; and in 
defence of the retention of " old words now 
grown obsolete " he adds : 

" The vulgar still use those words, or at least 
understand them as well as any that are in 
common use. It is among the common people 
that the language of every nation is best pre- 
served." ' Works,' viii. 619, 631, " Ang.-Cath. 
Lib.," 1846. 

There is an excellent article by Dean 
Plumptre, afterwards one of the Revisers, in 
Smith's ' Dictionary of the Bible,' 1863, iii. 
1675-83. G. G. Perry, 'History of the 
Church of England,' 1861, i. 200, contrasts 
the statements of Hallam and Trench on the 
language of the A.V. The list in Lowndes's 
* Bibliographer's Manual,' Bohn, 1857, i. 
174-200, is worth consulting. 

Some of the books mentioned below are 
well known, but a few of them may not be 
obvious. Others are noticed by Lowndes 
and by Plumptre. 

Leigh, Edward, M.A., Oxon. Annotations 

imperfections in our Translation discovered. 
Folio, 1650. 

Kilburne, William. Dangerous Errors in 
several late printed Bibles to the great scandal 
and corruption of sound and true Religion. 4to, 
pp. 15, Finsbury, 1659. 

Cell, Robert, D.D. Essay towards the amend- 
ment of the last English Translation of the Bible ; 
or, a proof, by many instances, that the last trans- 
lation of the Bible into English may be improved. 
Folio, 1659. 



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John Edwards, Fellow of St. John's 
College, Cambridge, in his ' Perfection of 
Holy Scripture,' 1695, pp. 531, 543, 565, 
suggests that Convocation should revise the 
English Bible, and advises the disuse of 
" obsolete " words such as " ere," " trow," 
" wist," " wot." 

A. Blackwall, 'Sacred Classics' (1725), 
2nd ed., 1727, gives instances where our 
version is faulty, harsh, improper, indecent, 
low, obscure, pp. 74, 87, 132, 204. In a 
third part, issued later, he supplies improved 
translations. 

B(oss), H(ugh). Essay for a New Translation 
of the Bible. Wherein is shewn from Reason and 
the Authority of the Best Commentators, Inter- 
preters, and Criticks, that there is a Necessity for 
a New Translation. 2nd ed., 8vo, pp. 338, 1727. 
Translated from Charles Le Ceiie. 

Scott, William. The New Testament Illus- 
trated.... a Correction of our Translation. 4 to, 
1775. 

Symonds, John, Professor of Modern History, 
Cambridge. Observations on the Expediency of 
Revising the Present English Version of the Four 
Gospels and Acts. 4to, Camb., 1789. 

Lindsey, Theophilus, Fellow of St. John's 
College, Cambridge, Unitarian. List of False 
Readings and Mistranslations of the English 
Bible. 1790. 

Newcome, William, Archbishop of Armagh. 
Historical View of English Biblical Translations. 
8vo, Dublin, 1792. Attempt towards Revising 
the English Translation of the Greek Scriptures. 
2 vols., 8vo, Dublin, 1796. 

Tomlinson, Robert. Attempt to rescue the 
Holy Scriptures from the Ridicule they incur 
with the inconsiderate, occasioned by incorrect 
Translations. 8vo, 1803. 

Barrett, Richard A. F., Fellow of King's College, 
Cambridge. Synopsis of Criticisms upon those 
Passages of the Old Testament in which Commenta- 
tors have differed from the Authorized Version. 
5 vols., 8vo, 1847. 

A Plea for a New English Version of the Scrip- 
tures. By a Licentiate of the Church of Scotland. 
8vo, 1864. 

W. C. B. 



CRABB ROBINSON AND 
DE QUINCEY. . 

THERE are some interesting references to 
Thomas De Quincey in the * Diary ' of 
Henry Crabb Robinson. The first mention 
of the Opium-Eater is dated 17 June, 1812, 
when Robinson dined in the Middle Temple 
Hall with De Quincey, who was, as he notes, 
very civil and gave him a cordial invitation 
to the Cottage in Cumberland. 

Crabb Robinson says that De Quincey' 3 
" person is small, his complexion fair, and his 
air and manner are those of a sickly and enfeebled 
man. From this circumstance his sensibility, 



which I have no doubt is genuine, is in danger of 
being mistaken for effeminateness. At least 
coarser and more robustly healthful persons may 
fall into this mistake." 

On 5 September, 1816, Crabb Robinson 
says : 

" I took an opportunity of calling on De 
Quincey, my Temple-hall acquaintance. He has 
been very much an invalid, and his appearance 
bespoke ill-health." 

The visit was mainly to Wordsworth, but 
after reaching home Robinson notes : 

" Just as we were going to bed De Quincey called 
on me. He was in much better spirits than when 
I saw him in the morning, and expressed a wish 
to walk with me about the neighbourhood." 

This shows that De Quincey's nocturnal 
habits had already started. On the 24th the 
diarist says : 

" Wordsworth conducted me over the fell, 
and left me, near De Quincey's house, a little 
after one. He was in bed. but rose on my arrival. 
I was gratified by the sight of a large collection 
of books, which I lounged over." 

They had a walk across Grasmere to 
Easdale Tarn, and returned to dinner, after 
which De Quincey accompanied him to the 
gate of Wordsworth's garden terrace. When 
he returned -he says : " I found De Quincey 
up, and chatted with him till past twelve/ 
Of 25 September he says : 

" This was a day of unexpected enjoyment. 
I lounged over books till past ten, when De 
Quincey came down to breakfast. It was not 
till past twelve we commenced our walk, which 
had been marked out by Wordsworth. We first 
passed Grasmere Church, and then, going along 
the opposite side of the lake, crossed by a mountain 
road into the vale of Great Langdale." 

Under date 7 October, 1821, Crabb Robinson- 
remarks : 

" My journal mentions (what does not belong io 
my recollections, but to my obliviscences) an 
able pamphlet by Mr. De Quincey against 
Brougham, written during the late election, 
entitled ' Close Comments on a Straggling Speech/ 
a capital title at all events." 

This pamphlet is anonymous. I traced a 
copy to the Bibliotheca Jacksoniana at 
Tullie House, Carlisle. An account of this 
effort of the Opium-Eater as an electioneer 
appeared in The Manchester Guardian 
(28 September, 1907). 

In the following month the Opium-Eater 
was in London. On 7 November Crabb 
Robinson writes : 

" Called on De Quincey to speak about the 
Classical Journal. I have recommended him to 
Valpy, who will be glad of his assistance. D& 
Quincey speaks highly of the liberality of Taylor 
and Hessey, who gave him forty guineas for his 
' Opium-Eater.' " 



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It would seem that nothing came of H. C. R.'s 
kindly intervention. De Quincey's name 
does not occur in Valpy's Classical Journal, 
and none of the articles raise a suspicion 
that he had any share in them. 

On 6 July, 1824, Oabb Robinson took 
tea with Lamb. Hessey gave an account of 
De Quincey's description of his bodily suf- 
ferings. " He should have employed as his 
publishers," said Lamb, " Pain and Fuss " 
(Payne & Foss) not a very brilliant joke. 

The last reference to De Quincey is dated 
29 August, 1836, and expresses the diarist's 
opinion that it was Cottle's right and duty 
to make known the generous gift of the 
Opium-Eater to Coleridge. 

WILLIAM E. A. AXON. 
> [See ' Puns on Payne,' 11 S. ii. 409, 453 ; iii. 36.] 



PENSIONERS IN THE LONG 
PARLIAMENT. 

No doubt the following list of pensioners 
who represented the nation in the Long 
Parliament, taken from The Universal Maga- 
zine, January, 1750, will be of interest to 
readers of 'N. & Q.' : 

Lenthal, the Speaker, 7,730?. per annum, besides 
a gratuity of 6,000?. 

Bulstrode Whitlock, Commissioner of the Great 
Seal, 1,500?. per annum and a gift of 2,0002. 

Edmund Prideaux, 1,2001. per annum. 

Roger Hill, 1,200?. per annum. 

Francis Rous, 1,200?. per annum. 

Humphry Salway, 200?. per annum. 

John Lisle, 800?. per annum. 

Oliver St. John made over 40,000?. from his places 
of Attorney and Solicitor for the King, by 
ordinance of Parliament, and by passing all 
pardons upon commissions. 

Sir William Allison, 1,600?. per annum. 

Thomas Hoyle, 1,200?. per annum. 

Thomas Pury, sen., 400?. per annum and a gift 
of 3,000?. 

Thomas Pury, jun., 200?. per annum. 

William Ellis, 200?. per annum. 

Miles Corbet, 1,700?. per annum. 

John Goodwin, 700?. per annum. 

Sir Thomas Widdrington, 1,500?. per annum. 

Edward Bish, 600?. per annum. 

Walter Strickland, 5,000?. per annum. 

Sir Gilbert Gerrard, 1,200?. per annum. As Pay- 
master to the Army at 3e7. per , 12,000?. per 
annum, besides a gift of 60,000?. 

Gilbert Gerrard, his son, 500?. per annum. 

John Seldon, a gift of 2,500?. 

Sir Benjamin Rudiard, a gift of 5,000?. 

Sir John Hipsly, a gift of 2,000?., besides places. 

Sir Thomas Walsingham, rewarded with the 
greatest part of Lord Dorset's estate, on 
which he cut 4,000 timber trees. 

Benjamin Valentine, Sir Henry Heyman, and 
Dennis Hollis, each a gift of 5,000?. 

Nathaniel Bacon, a gift of 3,000?. 

John Stevens, a gift of 1,000?. 



Henry Smith, 2,000?. per annum. 

Robert Reynolds, 400?. per annum, a gift of 
2,000?., and got 20,000?. by the purchase of 
bishops lands. 

Sir John Clotworthy, Treasurer of Ireland, per- 
mitted to cheat the State of 40,000?. 

John Ash, a gift of 14,000?., besides places. 

John Lenthal, the Speaker's son, 2,000?. per 
annum. 

John Bond, Master of Trinity Hall, Cambridge. 

Lucas Hodges, Customer of [sic] Bristol. 

Francis Allen, Customer for [sic] London. 

Giles Green, rewarded with Sir Thomas Daw's 
estate. 

Francis Pierpoint, rewarded with the Archbishop, 
of York's lands in Nottinghamshire. 

William Pierpoint, a gift of 47,000?. 

John Blackstone, 200?. per annum and a gift of 



Sea wire, a gift of 2,000?. 

Isaac Pennington, a gift of 7,000?. and many: 

bishops' lands. 

John Palmer, Master of All Souls, Oxon. 
Thomas Gerry, Recorder of Bridgwater. 
Samuel Vassel, a gift of 1,000?. 
Oliver Cromwell, 4,000?. 
Sir William Brereton, 2,000?. per annum. 
Thomas Gell, Lieutenant-Colonel, and Recorder- 

of Derby. 
Valentine Walton, Colonel, and Governor of" 

Lynn Regis. 

Richard Norton, Colonel, and Governor of South- 
ampton. 
Edward Harvey, Colonel, and rewarded with the 

Bishop's manor of Fulham. 
Sir Michael Livesay, Colonel, and Sequestrator of 

Kent. 

Henry Ireton, Colonel, and Commissary General. 
Thomas Rainsborough, Colonel, Governor of 

Woodstock, and Vice- Admiral of England. 
Robert Black, Colonel, and Governor of Taunton. 
Richard Brown, Major-General, and Governor of 

Abington. 
John Ven, Colonel, and Governor of Windsor.. 

had a gift of 4,000?. 

Algernon Sydney, Governor of Dover Castle. 
Richard Ingoldsby, Colonel, and Governor of 

Oxford. 
John Hutchinson, Colonel, and Governor of 

Nottingham. 

Cornelius Holland, 1,600?. per annum. 
Philip Skippon, 1,000?. per annum, besides a gift 

of lands, and the office of Major-General of 

the Army, and of London. 
Thomas Westrow, rewarded with the Bishop of 

Worcester's manor of Hartlerow. 
Anthony Stapley, Colonel, and Governor of 

Chichester. 
Alexander Rigby, Colonel, and Governor of 

Bolton. 
Sir Arthur Haslerig, Colonel, and Governor of 

Newcastle, rewarded with a gift of 6,500?. 

and the Bishop of Durham's manor of 

Aukland. 
Sir Thomas Middleton, Major-General for Denbigh 

and five more counties. 
Lord Grey of Grooby, rewarded with the royal 

manor of Holdenby. 
Sir William Constable, Governor of Gloucester,. 

sold his estate to Sir Marmaduke Langdale 

for 25,000?., and then obtained an order of 

Parliament to resume it, without returning 

a penny. 



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Sir William Pursey, Colonel, and Governor of j Mr. Teixeira de Mattos has not attempted 

Coventry, had a gift of 1,5001. the task in his notes to the translation 

Sir Edward Hungerford, 1,5001. per annum. 
Walter Long, Colonel, had a gift of 5,OOOJ. 

was also 



Michael Oldsworth, 3,OOOZ. per annum 

Governor of Pembroke and Montgomery, 
and Keeper of Windsor Park. 

Thomas Scot, rewarded with certain of the 
Archbishop's lands, and Lambeth Palace. 

Benjamin Alhurst, Clerk of the Peace for Lan- 
cashire, had a gift of 1,0001. 

Thus pensions amounted to 58,3307. per 
-annum, while gifts of money reached the 
sum of 308,500Z., besides places, gifts of 
land, &c. Each member also was allowed 
out of the public money 41. per week, which, 
-at 52 weeks, for 516 members, comes to 
107,328?. J. C. RINGHAM. 



R. B. SHERIDAN AND BISHOP HALL. 
"There is a resemblance between a familiar 
passage in ' The Rivals,' Act I. sc. ii., " Yes 
I always know when Lady Slattern has been 
before me. She has a most observing 
thumb ; and, I believe, cherishes her nails 
for the convenience of making margina 
notes," and the opening words in Book VT. o: 
Joseph Hall's ' Virgidemiae ' : 

Ldbco reserues a long nayle for the nonce 

To wound my margent tnrough ten leaues at once. 

."Sheridan was doubtless capable of hitting 
on this thought by himself, besides being no 
great reader ; but it may be rememberec 
that a reprint a very careless one, it must 
be owned of Hull's satires was edited, by the 
Rev. William Thompson of Queen's College, 
Oxford, in 1753. EDWABD BENSLY. 

CHATEAUBRIAND AND MADAME LIEVEN. 
The author of ' Le Genie du Christianisme ' 
has a long, spiteful passage about the con- 
versational powers of the lively Russian 
ambassadress at the Court of George IV. in 
his ' Memoirs ' (vol. iv. p. 74 of Mr. A. 
Teixeira de Mattos' s English translation, 
London, 1902), which I do not purpose to 
reproduce here. 

Chateaubriand's second stay in England 
lasted only a few months (April to Septem- 
ber, 1822), and he is not very verbose about 
his doings on that occasion. Consequently 
any side-lights must be welcome to his 
future biographer. According to a recent 
writer, 

"la, biographic de Chateaubriand je veux dire 
-sa biographic reelle, et non point celle a demi- 
poetique qu'il a magnifiquement orchestree dans 
les ' M^moires d'Outre-Tombe ' est encore a 
4crire." Anatole le Braz, ' Au Pays d'Exil de 
Chateaubriand ' (Paris, 1909). 



Among the visitors to London in 1822 was 
the Hungarian Count Stephen Szechenyi, 
a young hussar officer who has jotted down 
a few rough notes in the course of his wander- 
ings. As regards our French ambassador 
extraordinary we find the following short 
entry on 18 June : 

" At York and Boroughbridge [probably visits 
to some races or racing stables]. Chateaubriand 
is left here altogether unnoticed." 

The Hungarian Count soon, returned to 
London, and on 9 August there is the follow- 
ing entry in his diary, written in his own 
tongue : 

At Madame Lieven's with Chateaubriand, 
who has behaved in such an awkward and tactless 
way on English soil that he has placed himself 
in an altogether false position, and cannot in 
any way find his place. A good story about 
[him and] Countess L. He : ' What a horrid 
country this England is ! The women are devoid 
of all charms, without any vivacity.' Countess 
L. : ' Monsieur 1'ambassadeur, you condemn 
them without knowing them, because there are 
intellectual women,' &c. He : ' Ah, madame, 
I dislike intellectual women.' Countess L. : 
'^Well, in that case I must also leave you, Monsieur 
1'ambassadeur,' &c. During the meal the topics 
were Walter Scott, Lord Byron, &c. Madame L., 
without having either the insight or knowledge 
of Chateaubriand, led the conversation with such 
assurance and superiority as can only be acquired 
by constantly moving about in the great world. 
.... There was also some talk about the outing the 
other day to see the experiments with Congreve 
rockets [at Woolwich on 5 August], about the 
clothes worn by Wellington, and about his aide- 
de-camp, who on that occasion walked about 
with a lady hand in hand, &c. Madame L. was 
charmed with this. Chateaubriand : ' Ah well ! 
One can do these things if one has a Spanish 
campaign or a battle of Waterloo at one's back. 
When one knows how well these simple-minded 
'ellows can fight. . . .But let the Pope's marechal 
Dehave like that, and everybody will burst out 
aughing.' " 

I have faithfully reproduced the style 
&c., of the original. One can understand 
now why Chateaubriand penned the follow- 
ng remark in his memoirs : 

All reputations are quickly made on the banks 
of the Thames, and as quickly lost." 

L. L. K. 



MICHAEL BBUCE, LOGAN, AND ' THE ODE 
TO THE CUCKOO.' At 9 S. viii. 70, 148, 312, 
388, 527 ; ix. 95, 209, 309, 414, 469, 512, 
-here was a lengthy discussion on the well- 
oiown poem to the cuckoo attributed to 
Logan. As a supplement to this it may be 
f interest to record the fortunes of the 
Doem in Wales. 



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105 



It was translated into Welsh by " Caled- 
fryn " (William Williams, 1801-69), and has 
since been retranslated into English (appa- 
rently in ignorance of the original) by the 
Rev. E. O. Jones in his ' Welsh Lyrics of the 
Nineteenth Century ' (2nd ed., Newport, 
Mon., 1907). I have not found the Welsh 
version among Caledfryn's works, but from 
the English translation it would appear to 
have been very close. It is interesting to 
compare the final English version with the 
original poem : 

Dear playmate of the verdant spring, 

We greet thee and rejoice ; 
Nature with leaves thy pathway decks, 

The woodlands need thy voice. 

No sooner come the daisies fair 

To fleck the meadows green 
Than thy untrammelled notes are heard 

Rising the brakes between. 

Hast thou some star in yonder heights 

To guide thee on thy way, 
And warn thee of the changing years 

And seasons, day by day ? 

Fair visitant, the time of flowers 

We welcome now with thee, 
When all the birds' unnumbered choir 

Warbles from every tree. 

The schoolboy on his truant quest 

For flowers, wandering by, 
Leaps as he hears thy welcome note, 

And echoes back thy cry. 

To visit other lands afar 

Thou soon wilt flying be ; 
Thou hast another spring than ours 

To cheerly welcome thee. 

For thee the hedgerows aye are green, 

Thy skies are always clear ; 
There is no sorrow in thy song, 

Nor winter in thy year ! 

H. I. B. 



MEW OB MEWES FAMILIES. (See 6 S. xii. 
369.) Dr. Peter Mew(s), Bishop of Bath 
and Wells 1673, and of Winchester 1684- 
1706, born at Caundle Purse 25 March, 1618- 
1619, was the son of Ellis Mew(s) by his 
marriage with a daughter of John Winniffe 
of Sherborne, and sister of Dr. Thomas 
Winniffe, sometime Bishop of Lincoln. His 
ancestry has not hitherto been traced. The 
following notes show three earlier genera- 
tions of Mews occurring in or in connexion 
with Dorsetshire. 

I. John Mewis married Alice, daughter of 
John Buckler by his marriage with Agnes, 
daughter of John Barber of Maston, Somerset. 

Peter Mewes married Jane, another 
daughter of John and Agnes Buckler 
(" Buckler of Causeway in Radipole," 
Visitation of Dorsetshire, 1565). 



II. Peter Mewe of Caundle Purse died 
before 6 March, 1597/8, having had issue at 
least four sons. 

James Mewe of Ditcheat, Somerset, made 
his nephew James Mewe of Caundle an over- 
seer of his will, dated 17 February, 1618/19,. 
proved P.C.C. (10 Soame) 11 February, 
1619/20. He left a daughter Mary, married 
at Ditcheat, 25 July, 1608, to Henry 
Hannam. 

William Mewe was an overseer of the will 
of John Whetcombe of Sherborne, dated 
2 May, proved P.C.C. (76 Lewyn) 22 Sep- 
tember, 1598 ; and of that of Edmund Lane 
of Lillington, dated 13 August, proved 
P.C.C. (84 Harte) 26 November, 1604. 

III. One of the elder sons of Peter Mewe 
of Caundle Purse was probably father of 
Ellis Mew(s) and grandfather of the bishop. 

William Mewe, his fourth son, is men- 
tioned in the will dated 20 May, proved 
P.C.C. (62 Cobham) 20 June, 1597 of 
James Hannam of Hollwell, Somerset, 
a bencher of the Middle Temple, as "my 
servant." On 6 March, 1597/8, he was 
admitted to the Middle Temple ; and on 
10 May, 1598, he was admitted, by assign- 
ment of Sir Francis Hastings and Mary his- 
wife, widow and executrix of James Hannam, 
to two chambers in Hannam's Buildings. 
He surrendered one of these chambers 
12 February, 1608. It was resolved, 8 June, 
1627, to admit another tenant to the other 
chamber, then described as "the ground 
chamber of the late Mr. Mewe, when he kept 
the office of the Clerk of the Warrants." 
It seems possible that the word " late " is 
here used carelessly of a late tenant, and not 
of one recently deceased, for on 11 June, 
1627, and 12 May, 1629, this chamber is 
described as had by " surrender " of Mr. 
William Mewe ('Middle Temple Records/ 
vol. i. pp. 382, 383 ; vol. ii. pp. 488, 723, 
748). If so, he may possibly be identified 
with William Mewe, a London lawyer who 
settled at Eastington, and was the ancestor 
of the Gloucestershire Mews, one of whom 
was appointed to two prebends by Bishop 
Mew(s). TEMPLAR. 

TEMPLE BAB IN 1851. The obstruction to 
traffic caused by this narrow gateway in the 
middle of London was hardly felt to be 
serious until the summer of 1851, when all 
the world came to the Great Exhibition in 
Hyde Park, for the hitherto comparatively 
quiet streets of the metropolis then became 
for the first time inconveniently crowded. 
I well remember in that year sitting for 
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tinder the archway during a block in Fleet 
Street. It is difficult to realize that London 
-at that time was not much more than a large 
country town with few hotels North- 
umberland House with its huge empty court- 
yard standing on ground now so differently 
occupied. 

At the time when the removal of the Bar 
was under discussion, some excellent plans 
for keeping it in the City were unwisely 
rejected. HENBY TAYLOR. 

Birklands, Birkdale, Lancashire. 

" STICK-IN-THE-MUD." This seems to be 
an old colloquialism, but it is not mentioned, 
I think, in the ' English Dialect Dictionary.' 
I remember, about twenty years ago, hearing 
the expression applied to a person who never 
made any progress in business or life gene- 
rally he was addressed as " old stick-in- 
the-mud " ; and it may be noted that one 
who is deficient in histrionic talent is known 
as a " stick." An " old fogey " is an " old 
stick-in-the-mud," a slowcoach. Hughes 
in * Tom Brown at Oxford ' says : " This 
rusty old coloured one is that respectable 
old stick in the mud, Nicias." But there 
is an earlier instance of the use of the phrase 
in The General Evening Post of 15-17 Novem- 
ber, 1732 : 

" George Sutton was Yesterday before Justice 
De Veil, on suspicion of robbing Col. Des Romain's 
House at Paddington. The Colonel was in the 
Boom with the Justice, and no sooner had Sutton 
entered the Boom, but the Colonel said, that is 
the Man that first came and seized me with his 
drawn Sword in his Hand. The Justice com- 
mitted him to Newgate. At the same time James 
Baker was before Justice De Veil for the same 
Fact. The Colonel could not swear to him, but 
the Justice committed him to the same Place with 
Sutton. George Fluster, alias Stick in the Mud, 
has made himself an Evidence, and impeached 
the above two Persons." 

Again, in The General Evening Post of 
13-15 Dec., 1733, 

41 John Anderson, James Baker, alias Stick 
in the Mud, and Francis Ogleby were convicted 
lor breaking open the House of Thomas Bayner, 
.a Silversmith, and stealing Plate to' a considerable 
value. 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 

BBECHIN. In ' A Catalogue of Rare and 
Valuable Books,' recently issued by a pro- 
minent London house, the following entry 

appears in the section given to Wales : 

"Brechin. Black (D. D.). History of Brechin. 
Crown 8vo, cloth. Brechin, 1839. 3/6." 

The compiler of the catalogue evidently 
thought that his volume is concerned with 



Brecknock or Brecon, and not with the 
ecclesiastical town of Brechin in For- 
farshire, which enjoys the distinction of 
giving his title to a bishop. Between the 
two names thus incidentally associated there 
is a possible connexion, which Anderson in 
' The Scottish Nation ' discusses as follows : 

" Its similarity [that of Brechin, to wit] to the 
British name Breckeinoc or Brycheinog, Anglicised 
into Brecknock or Brecon (anciently Aberhodni), 
the chief town of Brecknockshire, which Giraldus 
Cambrensis (1188) and even earlier authorities derive 
from Bracken, a regulus or prince of that country, 
who died about the year 450, renders it probable 
that it is likewise called after some individual of 
British or Cambrian origin of that name. Nor is it 
impossible that, being a town of great ecclesiastical 
antiquity, its round tower being one of the only 
two extant in Scotland, and not of later date than 
the sixth or seventh century, it may have originated 
in a church dedicated to the family of this 
Bracken." 

" Brechin," it may be added, is not pro- 
nounced " Breechin," as the unwary are 
prone to think, but belongs to the same 
guttural family as Ecclefechan and Auch- 
termuchty, with which the Southern visitor 
invariably has trouble. 

THOMAS BAYNE. 

LOWE FAMILY, 1670-80. The following 
entries occur in a copy of the Authorized 
Version, 1611, in the British Museum : 

"Sarah Lowe was Borne the 13 th of May and 
Baptized the 15 th of June, 1676. 

"Andrewe Lowe was Borne the 31 st of March 
and Baptized the 9 th of May, 1681." 

HENKY R. PLOMEB. 

CONSCIENCE-STBICKEN : TABDY ADVEB- 
TISEMENTS. The following advertisements 
in comparatively recent newspapers may 
be worth noting. The first appeared in 
The Standard of 9 February, 1888, and the 
reply to it in that of 17 February : 

" AMELIA AND CLARA SPENCER, at school in 
1837, 5, Prospect-place, Peckham-rye, and whose 
home was in that part. Advertiser DEEPLY 
REGRETS doing some ACTS for which they were 
accused and may have been expelled." 

" AMELIA AND CLARA SPENCER are much 
gratified to see the advertisement headed as above. 
They freely forgive the advertiser for the wrong 
done over 50 years ago. 173, Church Boad, 
Canonbury, N." 

A somewhat similar circumstance is 
recorded in the following paragraph from 
The Standard of 18 October, 1909 : 

" A BELATED CONSCIENCE. An ex-under- 
graduate of Cambridge sends a curious advertise- 
ment to a Cambridge paper. He states that one 
day in 1852 an undergraduate came into collision 
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and broke some pipes which he was carrying 
' The undergraduate, now advanced in years 
feels his conscience oppressed by the fact that 
he never in any way made good the damage done 
either to the boy or his employer.' If ' the boy 
ii still alive, he would be glad to hear from him." 

W. B. H. 



WE must request correspondents desiring in 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 

ST. WILLIAM'S DAY AT YOBK. Can any 

one kindly refer me to an historical account 

of the observance of St. William's Day at 

York, either at the Minster or in the city ? 

GEORGE AUSTEN. 

The Residence, York. 

DOM FBANCISCO MANUEL DE MELLO, the 
Portuguese writer, was in London on diplo- 
matic missions in 1641 and in the spring of 
1663. I should be glad to know of any 
references in the newspapers, memoirs, or 
other writings of the time to his presence 
among us. He was in Rome for the greater 
part of 1664, endeavouring to obtain Papal 
confirmation for the King of Portugal's 
episcopal nominees, and there printed his 
* Cartas Familiares ' and * Obras Morales.' 

Are there any references to him and his 
negotiations in Italian printed sources of the 
period ? He sometimes styled himself 
Chevalier de St. Clement. 

EDGAR PRESTAGE. 

Chiltern, Bowdon, Cheshire. 

WILLIAM PITT'S LETTER ON SUPERSTITION. 
This letter, quoted by Dr. von Ruville in 
his ' Life of Chatham,' vol. iii. p. 359 (Engl. 
ed.), is stated to have first appeared in The 
London Journal for 1733. 

Unfortunately, the only copy of The 
London Journal which I have seen, in the 
British Museum, has a few pages missing for 
1733: the letter is not printed in the 
remaining pages. 

The letter first, as far as I know, appears in 
print in a leaflet which bears no date, but 
is ticketed in one of the British Museum 
ecrapbooks as of 1760. In 1819 and 1820 the 
letter was reprinted as a hawker's broad- 
sheet. It was finally republished about 
1875 by A. Holyoake as a secularist tract. 

Can any reader inform me 

1. What authority there is for attributing 
this letter to W. Pitt ? 



2. Whether any extant copy of The 
London Journal for 1733 shows this letter ? 

3. If so, whether the letter there appears 
signed by Pitt ? BASIL WILLIAMS. 

ISavile Club, Piccadilly. 

ARISTOTLE ON EDUCATION. Aristotle says 
somewhere that the work of the educator is 
like that of the sculptor, who finds and dis- 
engages the statue that is hidden in a block 
of marble. Addison refers to it in The 
Spectator, No. 215, 1711. Will some one 
kindly give me the reference ? 

A. SMYTHE PALMER. 

MARINE INSURANCE. I am anxious to 
know something about the earliest policies 
for assurance of ships or cargoes. The few 
facts I was able to find tended towards 
showing Valencia and the neighbouring 
parts of South-Eastern Spain to be the most 
hopeful quarter for further search. 

I read, however, in Prof. Heinrich Sieve- 
king's * Studio sulle finanze genovesi nel 
medioevo ' (Atti della societd ligure di 
storia patria, xxxv. [1905] Introd.,p. 15) : 

" La tenuta dei libri di commercio ed il cambio, 
Passicurazione e la banca furono coltivati, prima che 
da altri, dai Genovesi." 

Is this primacy admitted in the particular 
case of marine insurance ? Where shall I 
find the best " documented " treatment of 
the subject ? ROBT. J. WHITWELL. 

Oxford. 

SIR ROBERT PEEL AND HIS SPEECHES. 
Can any correspondent give the authority 
for the story that Sir Robert Peel, when 
Prime Minister, used always to lock his study- 
door before a great speech ? One day an 
urgent letter, it is said, came from the Queen, 
and Lady Peel entered the study through 
the window in order to deliver it without 
delay, and found the Prime Minister on his 
knees, praying. W. J. 

COURT LIFE. Where can one find an 
account of the various duties of officers of the 
Court, Ladies-in-waiting, &c. ? X. Y. 

" BEZANT." The Salisbury Journal, 20 
April, 1761, in form of advertisement says : 

1 There will be a ball at the George Inn, Shaftes- 
bury, on tuesday 28 th irist., being the day after a 
Bezant." 

What was a Bezant T E. G. 

MOTHEB'S MAIDEN NAME AS CHILDREN'S 
SURNAME. Was it formerly a fairly com- 
mon practice in Fifesliire for children to take 
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or the name of a near relative ? If this was 
the case, I shall be glad of any indication 
where I can get information regarding the 
practice. INQUIRER. 

LEADER OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS. It is 
formally announced that among the portraits 
recently acquired by the Trustees of the 
National Portrait Gallery, and now placed 
on exhibition, is that of 

"Thomas Robinson, first Baron Grantham, 1695- 
1770. Diplomatist, Ambassador at Vienna, 1730-48. 
Leader of the House of Commons, 1754-5. Pastel 
by an unknown artist." 

The story of Robinson's brief and in- 
glorious leadership of the House of Commons 
is well known to all students of the political 
history of that time ; but when was this 
position earliest recognized in formal fashion 
and the title " Leader of the House of 
Commons " first employed ? 

POLITICIAN. 

LADY O'LOONEY'S EPITAPH. In a little 
book entitled ' English Epigrams and 
Epitaphs,' selected by Aubrey Stewart, and 
published by Messrs. Chapman & Hall, 
1897, the following epitaph is given (p. 218) 
with the heading ' In Pewsey Church ' : 

Here lies the body of 

Lady O'Looney, 

Great-niece of Burke, commonly 
Called the Sublime. 

She was 
Bland, passionate, and deeply religious ; 

Also she painted in water colours, 
And sent several pictures to the Exhibition. 

She was first cousin to Lady Jones, 
And of such is the Kingdom of Heaven. 

Is this epitaph still in Pewsey Church ? 
Is it dated, and is anything known of its 
history ? SENESCENS. 

[Mr. E. E. Suffling, who prints this epitaph at 
p 287 of his 'Epitaphia,' 1909, adds: "In the 
chapel of St. George's Bury i tig-ground, London, 
facing Hyde Park, was, until its removal a few 
years ago, a slab with a tremendously long and 
nauseously adulatory epitaph upon it to Mrs. Jane 
Maloney (' Lady Looney'), who died in 1839. How 
the lady could also be buried at Pewsey I cannot 
say."] 

" STRIKE OF SAUNSONS." In a Court Roll 
of the Manor of Duffield, Derby, dated 
29 November, 152;), occurs the following 
sentence : 

"And also paying to the said John Harewood 
and his heirs annually one measure of apples called 
a strike of Saunsons growing upon the land afore- 
said." 

The words italicized are in English in the 
Court Roll, the remainder in Latin. A 
strike was a measure equal to about two 



pecks; but what is a "Saunson" ? Was 
there an apple so named ? It is not given 
in Gerarde's ' Herbal ' (1595) or Parkinson's 
' Paradisus Terrestris ' (1633), nor in any 
work in the Royal Horticultural Society's 
library. Was it a local namo ? 

I shall be much obliged if any correspon- 
dent can help me. C. W. FIREBRACE. 

70, Cadogan Square, S.W. 

SAMUEL GEOKGE SLOMAN of Exeter died in 
1846. Can any one kindly tell me where he 
was buried, and the name of his. father ? 

C. K. R. 

" -DE- " : " -TY-." What is the origin 
of " de " in such words as " hobbledehoy/* 
" clapperdeclaw," " fleberdegibet " ? Is it 
merely the definite article ? What is the 
meaning of " hobberdidance " ? It looks 
like "Hob o' the dance" beside "Hob 
goblin." 

In North of England place-names we find 
Pikedebield and Catchedecam (also spelt 
Catcheety) ; but " -ty-" is more common, 
e.g. Joppletyhow, Gracetymoor, Lamitysike, 
Fishertyhow, and Cockledebeck or Cocklety- 
beck. Probably we cannot explain these 
either by the article or by the word " tye-" 
so common in the South. OLD SABTJM. 

AISLABIE FAMILY. William Aislabie, 
Deputy Governor of Bombay (brother of 
John Aislabie, Chancellor of the Exchequer, 
who was turned out of the House of Commons 
on account of his connexion with the South 
Sea Company), had a son William, who 
is said to have been M.P. for Ripon from 
1727 to 1734. I should be glad of further 
information about him. Was he the William 
Aislabie who was a captain in the 4th troop 
of Horse Guards in 1722 ? He married 
Elizabeth, daughter of John and Arabella 
Scattergood of Fort St. George, about 1729. 
Where did the marriage take place ? William 
Aislabie is said to have been of Ditton, 
Surrey. There was a son of this marriage, 
John Aislabie, who also appears to have been 
a captain in the Army. I should be glad tc 
know more of him. 

BERNARD P. SCATTERGOOD. 

Far Headingley, Leeds. 

CECIL HOWARD. Is there any biography 
of this amiable gentleman and dramatic 
critic, who died in September, 1895 ? In 
Lewis Melville's 'William Makepeace 
Thackeray,' it is stated that Thackeray 
wrote (20 January, 1862) to Cecil Howard 
in regard to ' Lovel the Widower ' to know 
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ing of dramatizing for Miss Sedgwick 
Did Cecil Howard ever write a play of any 
kind, or dramatize one for Miss Sedgwick 
(Amy) or any one else ? S. J. A. F. 

JOHN ABBUTHNOT (1667-1735), PHYSICIAN 
AND WIT. Whom and when did he marry ? 
The ' Diet of Nat. Biog.,' ii. 62, does not 
mention his marriage, though there is a 
reference to his children. G. F. R. B. 

CHABLES BARB OUR was admitted on the 
foundation at Westminster School in 1674. 
There is no information about him in 

* Alum. Westmon.' Can correspondents of 

* N. & Q.' supply any ? G. F. R. B. 

JAMES DRAKE, M.D. (1667-1707). When 
and whom did this political writer marry, 
and what family had he ? The * Diet. Nat. 
Biog.,' xv. 446, gives no information on these 
points. G. F. R. B. 

RICHARD HEATH, son of Richard Heath of 
Guildford, Surrey, was educated at West- 
minster School and Trin. Coll., Camb., 
where he graduated M.A., 1714. I should be 
glad to obtain further particulars of his 
parentage and career. G. F. R. B. 

ELIZABETH Dixoif , QUAKER. Can any one 
tell me anything about Mrs. Elizabeth 
Dixon, a Quaker, and a friend and con- 
temporary of Elizabeth Fry ? Information 
as to her family or place of residence in 
Norfolk would be gratefully received by 

(Mrs.) M. ELLIOTT. 

Hethcl Hall, Norwich. 

" WARE " POTATOES. One of the street 
cries of a hawker of my acquaintance seems 
to me to be " Four-wheeled cabbage I " 
He affirms it to be " All ware new potatoes ! " 
and explains " all ware " as a trade term 
for " the best." Can any one explain it ? 

J. M. 

["Ware" is used in Co vent Garden Market to 
indicate potatoes of the most even size for cooking, 
both the small (called "chats") and large being sold 
at lower prices.] 

" THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR." This phrase 
is commonly attributed, and it would seem 
rightly so, to Washington Irving. It 
appears in his ' Creole Village,' 1837, and he 
vindicates it in a foot-note from the charge 
of irreverence. But it must have come 
into frequent, if not common, use earlier 
than that year ; for it occurs in quotation 
marks in the Philadelphia Public Ledger, 
2 December, 1836, where an editorial 
article Bays : " 'The Almighty Dollar ' is the 



only object of worship." (The writer is 
criticizing Governor Isaac Hill of New 
Hampshire. ) 

It may be that the * Creole Village ' saw the 
light in some periodical before this date, 
in which case the difficulty is solved. Can 
any correspondent clear the matter up ? 
RICHARD H. THORNTON. 

36, Upper Bedford Place, W.C. 



JUplus. 

MILTON BIBLES. 
(11 S. iii. 1, 70.) 

IT may perhaps be useful to focus the 
references to Bibles associated with the name 
of Milton. These appear to be as follows, 
in order of date : 

1. Breeches Bible (Genevan Bible, 1560), 
4to. A copy of this edition is said to have 
been sold in 1901 to Mr. Herbert Dodd 
(Dodd, Mead & Co., of New York), and to 
have subsequently been disposed of by them 
to Mr. Buckler, then of the American Lega- 
tion in Madrid, and by him sold by auction 
in 1907 to Mr. Alfred J. Barton for 1,225 
dollars. The purchaser declared Milton's 
signature to be a forgery, Dr. Aldis Wright 
being of opinion that it was that of Major 
John Milton of the City of London Trained 
Bands. See Daily News, 12 November, 
1907, and 10 S. ix. 27. If the article in The 
Times of 13 December, 1907, be correct 
(which it probably is), the description of the 
book as a " Breeches " Bible is incorrect, 
and the book in question is that next 
described. 

2. Genevan Version, London (Chr. Bar- 
ker), 1588, 4to. This formerly belonged 
to Mr. Alexander Howell. At his sale at 
Sotheby's, February, 1901, it was purchased 
by Mr. B. F. Stevens for 225?., probably 
for America ; but it was not included among 
the Miltoniana at the Grolier Club Tercen- 
tenary Exhibition. It is a quarto in black- 
letter. The poet's signature (" John Mil- 
ton ffeb 24 : 1654 ") is written on a piece o{ 
rough paper 3J inches by 1^ inches, pasted, 
inside the front cover. Underneath this are 
written " William Minshull, Nantwich " 

said to be a relation of Milton's third wife), 
and " Thos. Minshull, Middlewich." On 
he first fly-leaf are " Mary Matthews, 
Vliddlewich," and " Eliz. Mingham " ; on 
the second fly-leaf, " J. Mathews." At the 
;op of the title of the New Testament is the 
ugnature "Elizabeth Milton 1664" 



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years after Elizabeth Minshull married the 
poet as his third wife). On the last leaf 
(imprint) are the names " L. Matthews," 
"W m Minshull," and " Eliz. Mingam 
1730." On the fly-leaves at the end are 
"Elizabeth Minshull" and the following 
note : 

"Deo ye 27 1714 I gave this Book to my mother, 
the widow Mathews, but if she dyes before me, 
I desire that it should be Retorn to me againe. 
W m Matthews.'* 

There are two other signatures of the 
Mathews family and a pedigree of several of 
them (see ' Book-Prices Current, 1901,' pp. 
298-9). Milton married Elizabeth Minshull 
26 February, 1662/3, and after Milton's death 
in 1674 his widow retired to Nantwich, where 
her family lived. She died there in 1727. 
The signature Elizabeth Minshull on the 
fly-leaf at the end suggests that the book 
belonged to her before her marriage with 
Milton, and that his signature in 1654 
(two years after his blindness became com- 
plete) must have been cut out of some 
document and inserted. The volume in any 
case has an interesting connexion with 
Milton. 

3. British Museum Bible, London, Printed 
by R. Barker, 1612, small 4to. The first 
4tp edition of the Authorized Version, 
printed in Roman letter. The entries in 
this Bible were published in facsimile with 
other autographs and documents, by order 
of the Trustees of the British Museum, on 
the occasion of the Milton Tercentenary, 
with a note : 

"Milton used this version, and not the Geneva 
Bible, which was the favourite version of the 
Puritans in general, and contested the supremacy 
with King James's version for a long time after the 
first appearance of the latter in 1611." 

The purchase by the Trustees of the British 
Museum of this Bible is noted at 6 S. x. 45 ; 
and the particulars as to Milton's pedigree are 
recorded at 7 S. vi. 253. 

4. Authorized Version, London (? Robert 
Barker), 1613, small 4to. A copy of this 
edition with alleged autograph of John 
Milton was formerly in the possession of 
George Offor (2 S. xii. 233). This is probably 
the book next described. 

5. Authorized Version, London (Robert 
Barker), 1614, small 4to. A copy with the 
autograph of " John Milton " on the back of 
the title-page of the New Testament was 
formerly in the possession of George Offor 
Above the name of Milton is the autograph 
of Robert Colecraft. Bound with this Bible 
is a Concordance, 1615, and on the reverse 
of the title is " Robert Colecraft," and in a 



very small hand, " John Milton " (2 S. iv. 
334-5). Samuel Leigh Sotheby was of 
opinion that the second signature had all 
the appearance of having been written by a 
man at an advanced period of life and when 
blind, and that the writer was no other 
than the poet (' Ramblings,' 1861, pp. 128-9). 
This book formed lot 697 of the Catalogue 
of the sale of George Offer's books in 1865, 
and was, I believe, destroyed at Sotheby's 
fire on the second day of the sale. 

6. Bible seen by Dr. Birch, 1749-50, who 
describes it as "in 8vo, printed by Young 
in 1636 " (Hunter, 1850, p. 34). There are 
8vo editions by Young of Edinburgh dated 
1633, 1637, and 1638, but neither Bohn's 
' Lowndes,' the B.M. Printed Catalogue of 
Bibles, nor Cotton mentions one dated 1636. 
If 1636 be the correct date, Mary Powell 
would have been ten years old when it was 
published. The limitation of the family 
references to the births of Milton's four 
children by his first wife, its comparatively 
small size, and its being last seen in the 
possession of her granddaughter seem to 
corroborate the entry " I am the book of 
Mary Milton." 

7. Bible mentioned by Thomas Kerslake 
in The Athenceum of 5 January, 1884, as 
of no value and as having been sold by him by 
auction. Kerslake states that it formerly 
belonged to Bishop Law, and that the name 
of Milton written in the book had no simi- 
larity to his known autographs. 

Now as No. 7 appears unworthy of con- 
sideration, No. 1 to be identical with No. 2, 
and No. 5 (destroyed by fire) to be identical 
with No. 4, only two Bibles associated with 
Milton are known to exist, viz., his own 
family Bible in the British Museum (No. 3) 
and that of his third wife (No. 2) ; while 
No. 6, seen by Dr. Birch, may still be in 
existence, although its whereabouts are not 
known. WYNNE E. BAXTER. 



NEWENHAM ABBEY, DEVON (11 S. iii. 70). 
From a note to p. 317 of Oliver's 'Monasti- 
con Diocesis Exoniensis ' it appears that the 
register formerly belonging to my grand- 
father afterwards belonged to Sir Thomas 
Phillipps, Bt. The book was published in 
1846. W. WAVELL. 

Reform Club, S.W. 

LADY CONYNGHAM (11 S. ii. 508 ; iii. 37, 
71). The ewer to which MB. JOHN LANE 
alludes at the first reference was included in 
the sale of the Marchioness Conyngham's 
collection at Christie's in May, 1908. It was 
not of crystal, but entirely gilt, and bore the 



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London hall-mark for 1618; the maker's name 
was F. Terry. This with the companion dish 
realized 4,200?., Messrs. Crichton being the 
purchasers. The ewer and the dish are both 
illustrated in the sale catalogue. A similar 
dish is at Windsor Castle, and is illustrated 
in the sixth edition of Cripps's * Old English 
Plate ' (frontispiece). There were also in the 
sale (4-7 May) several articles in rock 
crystal, notably a standing cup and cover 
with mounts of French workmanship of the 
early part of the seventeenth century ; this, 
which may be the article inquired after by 
MB. LANE, realized 1,900 guineas. An 
account of the collection appeared in The 
Times of 13 April, 1908. The Marchioness 
died on 28 November, 1907, and an obituary 
notice of her was published in The Times 
of the day following. She was the wife of 
the third Marquess. W. ROBEBTS. 

HOLWELL FAMILY (US. ii. 528 ; iii. 74). 
The best account of Governor Holwell (bapt. 
23 Sept., 1711 ; died at Pinner, 5 Nov., 
1798) will be found in Dr. H. E. Busteed's 
* Echoes from Old Calcutta,' 4th edition, 
1900, pp. 47 sqq. (See also 10 S. ix. 370, 455, 
518 ; x. 76). Holwell was a grandson of John 
Holwell, the mathematician and astronomer 
(see 'D.N.B.'), whose father and grand- 
father are said to have given their lives to the 
Stuart cause, which involved the loss to 
their descendants of an ample patrimony 
in Devonshire that had been in the family 
for generations. I am, however, a little 
sceptical with regard to these statements. 
I cannot find any Holwell recorded in Mr. 
Peacock's ' Civil War Army Lists ' as having 
held a commission in the King's forces, 
nor in the ' List of Knights and Gentlemen 
that have Compounded for their Estates. 1 
Holwell was not a Visitation family, and 
Risdon does not include it in his list of 
the gentry of the county of Devon. I 
conclude, therefore, that the Holwells were a 
family of small yeomen, who may, of course, 
have suffered losses in the Civil War, but 
were not people of local importance. 
Holwell's great - grandson, Major W. A. 
Holwell, died at Toronto in October, 1890. 

I should like to learn something further 
of Edward and Bowes Walcot, both of 
whom are said by MB. W. JACKSON PIGOTT, 
and also by Burke in his * Landed Gentry,' 
to have survived the horrors of the Black 
Hole. Holwell in his ' Narrative,' in giving 
the list of survivors, mentions only an 
41 Ens. Walcott," who was afterwards sent 
with Holwell and two others by Meer 



Muddun to Murshidabad, where they 
were put in chains and endured much 
misery. No one of the name of Pigott is 
mentioned by Holwell in his lists either of 
those who perished or of those who survived. 
W. F. PBIDEAUX. 

THACKEBAY AND PUGILISM (11 S. iii. 28). 
The article, in Temple Bar headed ' The 
Millers and their Men,' and signed " P.," 
may perhaps have been written by Robert 
Kemp Philp. My reasons for thinking so 
are, I fear, not very convincing. Philp, 
who was, at different periods, Chartist, 
journalist, editor, and author, sometimes 
wrote under the initial "P." His known 
works include such titles as * Walks Abroad 
and Evenings at Home,' * Natural History,' 
' Physical Geography and Geology,' &c., and 
show him to have been a keen and intelligent 
observer ; but I am not aware of his ever 
having written anything on pugilism. He 
is best remembered by his ' Enquire within 
upon Everything. 1 W. SCOTT. 

DICKENS: " SHALLABALAH " (11 S. iii. 
68). As a child (in the early sixties), I 
remember an old Indian who used to come 
round the houses in Thurloe Square beating 
a sort of tom-tom, which was hung round 
his neck, and crooning out some such word 
as the above. We always called him the 
" Shallabalah man." But I fancy he was a 
Hindoo, and not a Moslem. 

E. STUABT SHEBSON. 

"ELZE"=ALBEADY (11 S. iii. 25, 72). 
My note on this word was written, primarily, 
to register the fact that it still has currency, 
and is not a fossilized form resuscitated 
from ancient authors by the lexicographer. 
Secondly, it seemed apposite to show that 
the term in a specific meaning is not ade- 
quately considered in what is a generally 
approved edition of a standard poet. MB. 
WABBACK'S contribution has substantial 
supplementary value ; and PBOF. SKEAT'S 
etymological explanations are, as always, 
as welcome as they are satisfactory. 

THOMAS BAYNE. 

"PUCKLED" (11 S. ii. 526; iii. 78). 
Most readers at a first glance would probably 
understand this word as puckl-ed, the 
preterite of an unknown verb to puckle (like 
buckled from to buckle), akin to puckle (Old 
Eng. pucel), a diminutive of puck, in the 
sense of being possessed by a little puck. It 
is really, of course, puck-led, mazed or led 
astray by that mischievous imp Puck. The 
word survives in some of the Midland dia- 
lects. 



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It is peculiarly interesting to me as helping 
to substantiate the explanation which 1 
advanced in The Oxford and Cambridge Re- 
view (1910, pp. 86-93) of the difficult phrase 
" the mobled queen " (' Hamlet,' II. ii. 526). 
I there contended that mobled, or mdbled, is 
to be analyzed as mob-led or mab-led, led 
wandering by Mab, bewildered or bewitched, 
infatuated. There is as little reason to infer 
a verb moble from mobled as a verb puckle 
from puckled. A. SMYTHE PALMER. 

" DIE IN BEAUTY " (11 S. iii. 7, 74). The 
phrase will be found in Ibsen's ' Hedda 
Gabler ' ; see III. x. ; IV. v. in particular. 
It forms, as it were, a " Leitmotiv " of the 
action. I have no doubt that the present 
vogue of the expression is due to this play ; 
but whether Ibsen invented it or took it 
from some other source, I am unable to say. 
HEINBICH MUTSCHMANN. 

University College, Nottingham. 

It is, of course, true that in the third and 
fourth acts of ' Hedda Gabler,' Hedda is full 
of the idea of dying beautifully or gracefully ; 
but I do not find the exact 'English phrase 
in either the version of Mr. William Archer or 
in that of Mr. Edmund Gosse. Is its equiva- 
lent in the original Norwegian ? And if BO, 
what are the precise words ? 

JOHN B. WAINEWBIGHT. 

GAMNECOURT IN PICARDY : BARBARA DE 
BIERLE (11 S. ii. 429, 512; iii. 50). After 
J. B. P.'s convincing demonstration to the 
contrary, I can no longer maintain that John 
Erskine of Dun, the Reformer, was married 
to Margaret Keith My authority for the 
marriage was a foot-note in M'Crie's ' Life of 
Andrew Melville,' Edinburgh, 1819. M'Crie 
asserts that John Erskine of Dun, the Super- 
intendent of Angus, died "on the 16th of 
October, 1592, and in the eighty-second 
year of his age." In a foot-note he names 
his authority: "Act Buik of the Com- 
missariot of St. Andrews, Oct. 25, 1593, 
and Apr. 19, 1594." I transcribe the 
remainder of M'Crie's note : 



. , fixes his d eath, by mistake, on 

the 12th of March, 1591/2. He also represents 
him as ' leaving behind him a numerous posterity ' 
(' Hist.' 384). But his will mentions only ' his 
son and air and Margaret Erskine his dochter,' 
who were minors, and whose ' tuitioun, gydinjr & 
keeping ' he left to ' his weilbelovit spous Mar- 
garet Kaith thair mother.' 'The noble and 
potent Lord Robert Lord Altrie ' (probably Mrs. 
Rrskme s brother) was one of their ' tutouris 
testftmenUris/" M'Crie's 'Life of Melville,' 
vol. n. pp. 22-3. 



In the light of J. B. P.'s reply it will be 
observed that M'Crie was in error. He con- 
founded John Erskine, the great-grandson 
(known also apparently as " Erskine of 
Dun"), with John Erskine, the Superin- 
tendent of Angus. We may gather from the 
somewhat complicated details that John 
Erskine the Superintendent died in 1589/90 ; 
his son Robert in 1590 ; his grandson, John 
of Logie, in 1591 ; and his great-grandson 
John in 1592. Father, son, grandson, and 
great-grandson died within a period of 
four years. It may also be noted as curious 
that father, son, grandson, and great-grand- 
son, within about eighty -four years, were all 
of them married and had children by the 
time they had respectively reached their 
twentieth year. 

My thanks are also due to W. C. J., whose 
citations clearly show that Barbara do 
Bierle was the Superintendent's second 
wife. ScoTtrs. 

[Reply from MR. ERSKIICE WEST shortly.] 

GEOFFREY POLE (11 S. iii. 45). As the 
writer of the lines at 9 S. ix. 468, I am 
interested in MR. J. B. WAINEWRTGHT'S 
note. Geoffrey or Jeffrey Pole, fourth son 
of Sir Geoffrey Pole (d. 1558), is stated to have 
married Catherine, daughter of a Dutton 
of Dutton in the county of Chester, and to 
have had five daughters Jane, Catherine, 
Constance, Martha, and Mary and two 
sons, Arthur (slain s p. at Rome) and 
Geoffry (or Geoffrey), the latter still living 
in 1606, and then possessed of Wirehall in 
Cheshire. 

Sir James Pole, a descendant of Geoffrey 
Pole (living in 1606), is said to have forfeited 
Wirehall to King William. Sir James Pole 
had a brother Richard, whose son Richard 
was the father of three daughters Mary 
(wife of " Giles Taylor of Lvon's Inn, 
Gent."), Elizabeth (wife of Paul Green, a 
vinter of London), and Hannah (wife of 
Roger Maddock or Mannock, a shoemaker 
in Chester). 

My authority for these details regarding 
Geoffrey, the son of Sir Geoffrey Pole (d. 
1558), is (p. 131) 'A Companion and Key 
;o the History of England,' by George 
Fisher (London, Simpkin & Marshall, 1832). 
RONALD DIXON. 

1 TIT FOR TAT ' (11 S. ii. 489 ; iii. 56, 76). 
The authoress of ' Tit for Tat ' was Jane 
Grace Smith (Mrs. Michael Edward Smith), 
as may be seen by the British Museum 
Catalogue. She is an entirely different 
Derson from the authoress of * Moscha 
Lamberti.' WILLIAM E. A. AXON. 



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THE VICTORY : EARLY SHIPS OF THE 
NAME (US. iii. 68). I quote the following 
note from the foot of p. 328, vol. ii., 'Eco- 
nomical History of the Hebrides,' by John 
Walker, D.D., Professor of Natural History 
in Edinburgh University, Edinburgh, 1808. 
The note occurs under the heading * Preserva- 
tion of Timber ' : 

" The Victory man-of-war was built in a hurry, 
after the battle of Blenheim, of unseasoned timber ; 
she therefore passed in the Navy by the name of 
the Green Bough ; and, though a most magnificent, 
was never accounted a trusty ship. Her loss proved 
a national disaster, which was ascribed by the most 
skilful seamen to this original defect." 

w. s. 

I have before me a few leaves of an old 
Britannic Magazine, on which is printed a 
list (taken from the Royal Library) of the 
English fleet, with the names of the ships and 
captains serving under Charles, Lord Howard 
of Effingham, Lord High Admiral against 
the Spaniards in 1588. 

No. 9 in the list is the Victory, a ship of 
800 tons, and a crew of 400 marines, her 
captain being Sir John Hawkins. Possibly 
she was the first vessel known by that 
name. In an excellent series of articles 
entitled ' Ships of the Royal Navy,' pub- 
lished in The Hampshire Telegraph a year or 
two ago, and now in book form, AITCHO will 
find a very interesting account. 

The Victory wrecked off the Casquets, 
4 October, 1744, is said to have been built in 
1675, and rebuilt at Portsmouth in 1731 
not 1721, as cited from Charnock by the 
querist. F. K. P. 

If AITCHO does not know of an earlier 
Victory than the one mentioned in 1703, he 
will be interested to learn that this fine old 
family name was one of honour in the Royal 
Navy so long ago as 1582. Many familiar 
names will be found in the short catalogue 
of the predecessors of the Dreadnought, 
Swiftsure, Triumph, Revenge, and others, 
given by Harrison in his ' Elizabethan 
England ' (Furnivall's edition, " Scott 
Library," p. 231). P. A. MCELWAINE. 

Dublin. 

" LOVE ME, LOVE MY DOG " (11 S. ii. 522 ; 
iii. 51). I am not surprised that objection 
is made to what I said at the first reference 
as to Aristotle's statement concerning the 
ages of dogs. WERNERINA (ante, p. 52) 
has been led astray by trusting to a poor 
translation of the Greek original. The 
whole passage is quoted by Samuel Clarke in 
his ' Homeri Odyssea, Grsece et Latine ' 



(6th ed., vol. ii., p. 126), under 11. 326-7 of 
the seventeenth book of that poem, which 
describe the death of Argos. The first 
sentence, to which a simple allusion was 
made, is important, and should have been 
given in full. " The male of the Laconian 
dogs lives ten years, and the female about 
twelve," says the philosopher. It will be 
noticed that he attributes greater longevity 
to the female. He then continues : " But 
most females [at TrAetcrrai] of other dogs live 
about 14 or 15 years, a few [cvtcu note the 
gender] even 20 ; wherefore some persons 
[rtves] think that Homer was correct when 
he made the dog of Ulysses [rbv Kvva TOV 
'OoWcrews] die in his 20th year " (Aristot., 
' De Hist. Animal.,' lib. vi. cap. 20). Being 
a dog, Argos could not have attained to such 
an age ; therefore Aristotle, according to his 
own teaching, could not have come to such 
a lame and impotent conclusion as the one 
he mentions. 

In Clarke's * Homeri Odyssea,' at the 
same reference as given above, is quoted 
the opinion of ^lian, who roundly declares 
that " the Argos of Ulysses and the story 
about him [the dog] seem to be one of 
Homer's puerilities." The same writer 
states that " the greatest age of a dog is 
14 years " (' De Animal,' lib. vi. cap. 40). 
This must have been one of the instances 
Horace had in mind when he wrote 
Indignor, quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus. 

* De Arte Poetica, 1 359. 
JOHN T. CURRY. 

" Le Livre des Proverbes Frangais, pr6- 
ced6 de recherches historiques .... parJM. Le 
Roux de Lincy, seconde edition," fc _1859, 
has the following : 

Tome i. p. 170, in Serie No. IV. : 
Qui m'aime il aime mon chien. 

(Anc. prov., Ms.) XIII* siecle. 
(Prov. communs.) XV* siecle. 

" On dit qui m'aime aime mon chien." 

(Trlsor de Jeh. de Meung, vers 1,667.) 
XIII* siecle. 

Tome ii. p. 481 : 

Qi me eyme erne mon chen. 

The last is in " Appendice No. III. Pro- 
verbes de Fraunce, d'apres un manuscrlt 
de Cambridge du Corpus Christi College. 
(Extraits communiques par M. Francisque 
Michel.)" LZ1 

The Latin " Qui amat me, amat & canem 
meum," is given in the ' Adagia ' of Erasmus 
and others, 1599, col. 1984. 

ROBERT PIERPOINT. 



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Is it St. Bernard of Clairvaux who sa,id, 
" Dicitur certe vulgar! quodam proverbio : 
Qui me amat, amat et canem meum " ? 
(St. Bernard, ' In Festo S. Michaelis, 
Sermo Primus, sect. iii. p. 102 b, vol. i., 
Parisiis, 1719, fol.) 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 

For MB. BBESLAB'S information (ante, 
p. 62) I make the following extracts from 
Chambers' s Encyclopaedia ' : " Wolves can 
readily be tamed when taken young, and then 
exhibit all the characteristics of domestic 
dogs " ; also : " The wolf's natural voice 
is a loud howl, but when confined with dogs 
it will learn to bark." N. W. HILL. 



WET HAY (US. ii. 469, 535 ; iii. 53). 
At the last reference a valued contributor 
to * N. & Q.' waxes facetious over the idea 
of wet hay being ever found in a dog-kennel. 
He fails to remember that ladies' lapdogs 
and shepherds' collies form but a small 
portion of the canine family ; that kennels 
such as those of the Beaufort and Quorn 
hunts were unknown at the time when 
Webster wrote his drama ; and that the 
saying " to live a dog's life anu die a dog's 
death " has become a kind of proverb 
expressive of the acme of human misery. 

SCOTUS. 

Hay is often damped for horses which have 
bad wind, to lay the dust present in almost 
all hay. Many people also sprinkle water 
on the oats or crushed beans. 

GALFBID K. CONGBEVE. 

Vermilion, Alberta. 

[MB. M. L. R. BBESLAB also thanked for reply.] 

IBISH BOOK OF REMEMBBANCE (11 S. 
iii. 70). 

"In 1783 Mr. J. Fitzgerald published the first 
4 Cork Remembrancer'; in 1792 Mr. A. Edwards 
published the second ; the present attempt is the 
third. We believe our city has furnished the only 
examples of such compilations." 

[ take this extract from the preface to 
' The Cork Remembrancer,' by Francis H. 
Tuckey, 8vo, pp. ex. + 352,' Cork, 1837, 
which has " a list of subscribers printed at 
the beginning." Could any of these be the 
work sought for by MB. ROBEBTS CBOW ? 
EDITOB ' IBISH BOOK LOVEB.' 

BELFAST REGISTEBS (US. iii. 70). I am 
afraid there are no registers of Belfast 
going back as far as 1677. The first Presby- 
terian Church was founded in 1672, but the 
first volume of its baptismal register has been 



missing since 1790, and has been advertised 
for several times without result. The 
second volume, commencing in 1757, is in 
existence, and has been printed in ' Historic 
Memorials of the First Presbyterian Church ' 
(Belfast, 1877, 4to), by Principal Gordon, 
now of Manchester. The parish church 
dates only from 1774. In R. M.^Young's 
' Town Book ' (Belfast, 1892, 8vo) the 
names are given of the leading citizens in 
1677, and they may perhaps be of assistance 
to your correspondent. 

EDITOB * IBISH BOOK LOVEB.' 
Kensal Lodge, N.W. 

EUSEBY CLEAVEB, ABCHBISHOP OF DUBLIN 
(US. ii. 489; iii. 53). See Misc. Gen. et 
HeraL, vol. ii. pp. 304-5, where the Arch- 
bishop's mother is given as Martha Lettice of 
Lushden, Northants no doubt a daughter 
of the Rev. John Lettice, who was Rector 
of Rushden in 1719. H. HOUSTON BALL. 

ROGEBSON COTTEB (11 S. ii. 489 ; iii. 53) 
was admitted to Lincoln's Inn, 2 August, 
1766. His name appears in the ' Dublin 
Directory ' for 1794, but not afterwards, 
as of Grattan Street, Dublin, and Mallow, 
co. Cork. He married in 1794 Jane, widow 
of William Grady, and daughter of Richard 
Harrold of Limerick. 

H. HOUSTON BALL. 

' A VOICE FBOM THE BUSH '(US. iii. 48). 
This piece was included in the "Miscel- 
laneous " section of ' Poems by the late 
Adam Lindsay Gordon,' which was published 
by A. H. Massina & Co. of Melbourne in 
1884. There is some doubt whether all the 
pieces in this " Miscellaneous " section were 
from the pen of Gordon. The poem was not 
printed by him in the slim volume of ' Bush 
Ballads and Galloping Rhymes ' which was 
published at Melbourne in 1870. It un- 
doubtedly seems to reflect the unfortunate 
attitude of mind into which Gordon fell 
during his later years. The London pub- 
lisher of the book was Samuel Mullen, 48, 
Paternoster Row, and it frequently appears 
in second-hand booksellers' catalogues. The 
poem consists of fifteen stanzas, of which the 
first runs as follows : 

High noon, and not a cloud in the sky 

To break this blinding sun. 
Well, I've half the day before me still, 

And most of my journey done. 
There's little enough of shade to be got, 

But I'll take what I can get, 
For I'm not so hearty as once I was, 

Although I'm a young man yet. 

W. F. PBIDEAUX. 



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This poem is printed on p. 25 et seq. in 
4 Australian Poets, 1788-1888,' edited by 
Douglas B. W. Sladen, and published in 
1888 by Griffith, Farran & Co. Prefixed to 
the poem is a note explaining the incorrect 
attribution of it to A. Lindsay Gordon, and 
further stating that 

" its real authorship is well known among students 
of Australian literature ; and though the author 
wishes his name not to appear again, the poem 
is given as finally revised by him for ' Australian 
Ballads and Rhymes.' " 

L. A. W, 

Dublin. 

* A Voice from the Bush ' will be found 
in The Temple Bar Magazine, No. 150, for 
May, 1873 (vol. xxxviii.'p. 186). R. B. 
Upton. 

The poem * A Voice from the Bush ' was 
written by Mr. Douglas B. W. Sladen, though 
it has been printed among Adam Lindsay 
Oordon's poems. In 1888 it appeared in a 
corrected form, revised by the author, in 
the " Canterbury Poets " series, * Australian 
Ballads and Rhymes,' London, Walter 
Scott, pp. 1-5. The Table of Contents 
in that volume attributes the authorship 
to Mr. Sladen, who, though the editor of the 
collection, had not chosen to reveal himself. 

W. SCOTT. 

[In the fourth edition of * Australian Ballads 
and Rhymes,' edited by Mr. Sladen, the authority 
cited in the Contents for the poem is Temple Bar. 
In ' A Century of Australian Song,' also edited by 
Mr. Sladen and published by Walter Scott, the 
poem is entered in the Contents as " Anonymous, 
South Australia," and the South Australian 
Register is given as the authority. 

MR. PERCY ADDLESHAW, S. J. A. F., J. H. K., 
OLD SARUM, and C. L. S. also thanked for 
replies.] 

JEREMY SMITH, 1666 (US. iii. 70). In the 
4 Calendar of State Papers, Domestic, June, 
1660,' is a grant to Jeremiah Smith of the 
office of Keeper of Battles Walk, Windsor 
Forest. This Walk does not appear in 
Norden's map of the Forest. I have not at 
hand the works of either Hughes or Menzies 
on the Forest ; they might give some in- 
formation. FREDERIC TURNER. 

CHERTSEY CARTULARIES (US. iii. 70). 
G. A. K. will find that neither the Lansdowne 
MSS. 434-5 at the B.M. nor the "Ex- 
chequer Leiger" at the P.R.O. have been 
printed. Here is a good opportunity for one 
of those people who have a difficulty in dis- 
posing of their millions to do, or cause to be 
done, some useful and interesting work. At 
the beginning of Lansdowne MS. 435 is a 



portion of a fourteenth-century survey of 
Egham undertaken by John de Rutherwyk, 
Abbot of Chertsey ; it is a portion of a com- 
plete survey of the possessions of the abbey. 
This fragment I hope to publish myself 
before long. FREDERIC TURNER. 

Egham. 

SIR JOHN CHANDOS (US. iii. 25). In ' Le 
Prince Noir Po6me du Herault d'Armes 
Chandos,' edited by Francisque-Michel, 
London and Paris, 1883, is a note, p. 304, 
which says that Sir John Chandos, 

" son of Sir Edward Chandos, in the words of Du 
Guesclin * the most illustrious knight in the world,' 
served in the campaigns of 1339, was present at 
Crecy, Poitiers, Najera, and fell at the bridge of 

Lussac, 31 December, 1369 He was one of the 

founders of the Garter, and his plate is still 
remaining in the stall he formerly occupied in St 
George's Chapel." 

There is the following foot-note t 

"See Luce's Froissart, t. iv. p. 91. 324, and p. 322 ; 
and t. v. p. 28, 381. In Rymer's * Fojdera,' vol. iii. 
p. 343, is a deed of gift of two parts of the manor of 
Kirkeld in Lindsay to Sir John Chandos, for his 
good service at the Battle of Poitiers. 

" There is a paper by Sir Samuel Rush Meyrick 
in the Archceologia, vol. xv. pp. 484-495, and a more 
valuable one by Benjamin Fillon (Londres et 
Fontenay, 1856, 8vo. magno, 35 pages), which is 
illustrated by the signature and handwriting of 
Chandos, the signet of the Black Prince and James 
Audley, the seals of John de Creswell, Hugh de 
Calviley, Hugh and Geffrey Worresley, Robert 
Knolles and Thomas Percy, whose signature is 
given as that of John de Harpeden. 

" At the beginning of this century, the name of 
Chandos was recalled on the occasion of a law suit, 
which made a great noise and gave rise to Sir 
Egerton Brydges's papers (1822 fol.), and 'Chandos 
Family' (30 pages, 4to, no title. Reprinted from 
the ' introduction to Sudeley Castle *) ; to George 
Frederick Beltz's ' Chandos Peerage Case ' (London, 
1834, 8vo) ; and to ' A Letter in a statement relative 
to the Barony of Chandos,' in the * Synopsis of the 
Peerage of England,' by Sir Nicholas Harris Nicolas, 
London, 1841, pp. 14, 12mo." 

The stall plate of Sir John Chandos 
appears on plate iv. in ' The Stall Plates of 
the Knights of the Order of the Garter, 
1348-1485,' by W. H. St. John Hope, 1901. 
It is 

" now in the twenty-first stall, on the south side of 
the quire. A cut-out plate, in admirable preserva- 
tion, representing the shield of arms, gold a pile 
aides, with silver helm, garnished gold, and covered 
by a red mantling with gold branches on the 
slittered ends and lined ermine. The crest, which 
rises directly from the helm without any torse, is a 
man's head silver icith sable hair and beard and a 
fillet vert. On a gilt scroll attached to the lower 
margin is inscribed 

: Mons' . John . Chandos : primer fondeur 
(Inscription in old English.) " 



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Chandos Herald thus records the death 
of Sir John : 

Et puis gaires ne demora 
Que Chaundos auxi trespassa 
Au pont de Lussac, bien savez. 

Line 3944. 

Without correction according to the 
errata, the reference is line 3974. 

According to the ' Dictionary of National 
Biography,' Sir John Chandos, wounded at 
the bridge of Lussac 31 December, 1369, 
died at Mortemar on the day following. 

ROBERT PIERPOINT. 

THE BLACK PRINCE'S LANGUAGE (11 S. 
iii. 7). There can surely be little doubt 
that the Black Prince spoke the language of 
Provence the language of Froissart and the 
troubadours. The French territory over 
which he ruled lay within the Provengal 
district, to the south of the Loire. Langue- 
doc, another name for the Provencal speech, 
la langue d'oc, was employed to distinguish 
it from la langue d'oil, or the dialect of 
Northern France. According to Prof. 
Saint sbury, Provencal was the language not 
oaly of Southern France, but also of Savoy 
beyond the Alps and Catalonia beyond the 
Pyrenees. " It altered less from the Latin 
[than the northern tongue], and was on the 
whole more like Spanish or Italian than 
French." 

I do not pretend to say what particular 
dialect is represented by the sentences 
quoted by MB. ALBAN DORAN, but would 
venture to submit that too much importance 
ought not to be attached to words which a 
modern writer of history puts into the mouth 
of his characters. SCOTTJS. 

SYBIL, QUEEN OF SCOTLAND : HER 
PARENTAGE (11 S. iii. 44). The new ' Scots 
Peerage,' which ought to be an authority on 
such matters, calls her Sybille Corbet. Are 
there any charters in Scotland which 
authorize this name ? SHERBORNE. 

Sherborne House, Northleach. 

In Table XVIII., headed ' Genealogy of 
the Kings of Great Britain surnamed 
Stuart,' in that curious work ' A Companion 
and Key to the History of England,' by 
George Fisher (London, 1832), the wife of 
Alexander I. of Scotland is given as " Sibylla, 
granddaughter of William the Conqueror " ; 
but in the body of the work (p. 232) it is 
stated that Alexander I., " surnamed the 
Fierce," died 1124, " leaving no issue by his 
wife Elizabeth, natural daughter of Henry I 
^ EngJand " RONALD DIXON. 

46, Maryborough Avenue, Hull. 



"WOODYER" (11 S. ii. 529). This word 
is not wholly obsolete in Sussex. I have 
heard it pronounced " woody -er." It i& 
equivalent to " woodman," and, as I know 
it, designates the man who looks after the 
undergrowth in a copse or wood mainly 
used for the cultivation of it. When the 
undergrowth is sold " standing," he sees that 
the woodcutters sent by the purchaser keep 
to their lot, do not infringe on the other less 
mature lots, do no damage to trees, &c. I 
am sorry it never occurred to me to send the 
word to Prof. Wright for the ' E.D.D.,' but it 
will now be rescued from oblivion. 

E. E. STREET. 

Chichester. 

I have heard men who worked regularly 
in the wood, " loppin', choppin', an' trim- 
min'," called both " wodyers " and " wood- 
yers," just as other workers with the saw in 
wood or saw-pit are sawyers. A man I 
knew who was a noted " thak-peg " maker 
was often called " a pegyer." There are folk 
in country places who naturally turn the 
terminal " er " into ** yer." 

THOS. RATCLIFFE. 

Woodyer is a family name, a form, says 
Bardsley, of the old " le Woodere," one who 
lives under the shade of a wood. 

C. C. B. 
[ScoTUS also thanked for reply.] 

" TERSE " CLARET (US. iii. 7). Does not 
this mean "neat," unadulterated claret from 
the imported wine-tun ? Many were the 
instances, at the time alluded to and long 
before, of the adulteration and mixing of 
wine, in which water played an important 
part. Cowel in his ' Interpreter ' (s.v. not 
"terse," but " terre tenant") says that 
" terse is a certain Measure of liquid things, 
as Wine, Oyl, &c., containing the sixth part 
of a Tun, 32 H. 8. 14, or the third part of a 
Pipe." And a tierce or terce is described by 
N. Bailey in his * Dictionary,' 1740, as a 
liquid measure containing 24 gallons. When 
we refer to Prof. Skeat (' Etym. Diet.,' 1901), 
we are informed that the word is from the 
Latin tersus, meaning " clean, neat, pure* 
nice, terse." J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. 

In Thomas Shadwell's comedy of ' The 
Humourists,' Act I. sc. i., Crazy says : " We 
that drink Burgundy, like Bay-trees, are 
green, and nourish all the year." In III. i. 
Friske says : " Drink a bottle of Rhenish 
and Sugar." But in IV. i., where Bricke 
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debate the business over a bottle of wine 
first," Raymund replies, somewhat taunt- 
ingly : " Must I stay, till the strength 
of Terse claret have wet yourself into 
courage ? " 

" Terse claret " was no doubt the red 
wine known by the name of claret, as it is 
stated by a wine merchant that it was not 
before 1750 that the first-growth claret, 
properly prepared and of proper age came 
to England from France ; so the term 
" terse " does denote a good quality of 
wine. TOM JONES. 

May I presume to suggest that SIR JAMES 
MURRAY has supplied the answer to his own 
query ? Terse is simply " tierce " (< 



(often 



simply " ti< 

spelt " terce " in old books, as, for example, 
in Boyer's ' French-English Dictionary,' ed. 
1729), meaning a cask, of claret or any other 
wine, containing 42 gallons. If we substitute 
for terse the word " cask " in the three 
quotations cited by SIR JAMES, the sense 
of the different passages will be quite 
apparent. Thus in * Bellamira,' Act. II. 
sc. i., Merryman had imbibed so many 
gallons of wine that they amounted in the 
aggregate to several casks, consequently 
any jolt would have spilt a cask at a time, 
and not merely a gallon. W. S. 8. 

ADDERS' FAT AS A CURE FOR DEAFNESS 
<11 S. iii. 69). SCRUTATOR'S query puts 
me in mind that my mother had in her 
medicine cupboard possibly some sixty 
years ago a small phial of pinkish oil, 
which she said was viper oil for the cure of 
vipers' bites. It was extracted and pre- 
pared from the dead snakes by a man who 
plied the trade of ratcatcher and viper- 
killer in the neighbourhood. We were then 
living in Kent, about six miles from Dover. 
My mother could not say if the oil was 
efficacious, as she had never had experience 
of its use. EGERTON GARDINER. 

Adders' or any other fat may relieve 
temporary deafness due to an accumulation 
of hardened wax in the ear, and possibly 
the fat of adders may possess peculiar pene- 
trating and solvent properties. Certainly 
it has long had, and among country people 
still has, this reputation. I have often had 
dead adders brought to me in Lincolnshire 
under the impression that they still are, as 
they once were, included in our Materia 
Medica ; and I have seen them, preserved in 
spirits, in country chemists' shops, where 
they serve the same purpose as the " stuff 'd 
-alligators " of the old apothecaries. I do 



not know that their fat was ever recom- 
mended specifically for deafness, but it was 
much used in many cutaneous affections, 
and for dropping into the eyes to clear the 
sight. It is, says Alleyne (1733), "more 
penetrative and active than other oily sub- 
stances." For the subject of the viper 
in medicine see Wootton's ' Chronicles of 
Pharmacy.' C. C. B. 

The application of oil to the ear is some- 
times advisable in cases of deafness due to 
stoppage of the meatus. Adders' fat, being 
the produce of a reptile which is, proverbially, 
wilfully d.eaf, would be specially curative on 
the similia similibus curantur system, that 
was known by the folk-leech before Hahne- 
mann. ST. SWITHIN. 

The peasantry of the Home Counties 
(Berkshire, for example, where adders are 
more plentiful than in the Midlands) 
regard this fat as a safe cure for the poison 
of an adder's bite. I do not remember it in 
connexion with deafness. 

WM. JAGGARD. 

Avonthwaite, Stratford-on-Avon. 

EARLY BEEFSTEAK CLUB (11 S. ii. 445, 497). 
On referring to ' The Life and Death of 
the Sublime Society of Beefsteaks,' by Bro. 
Walter Arnold (1871), I find that the 
anonymous writer quoted by MR. HOLDEN 
MACMICHAEL is correct in assigning the date 
of the foundation of the Society to 1735. 
The book contains a list of " the original 
24 members of the Sublime Society of 
Beefsteaks founded in the year 1735 by John 
Rich, harlequin and machinist at Covent 
Garden." 

This is confirmed by " Thormanby " in an 
article in Temple Bar for March, 1906, in 
which he repeats the date, but calls Rich 
" Henry " instead of John. The article 
is entitled ' The Laureate of the " Beef- 
steaks," ' and refers to Capt. Charles Morris 
of " the sweet shady side of Pall Mall " fame. 

I have other references to the Sublime 
Society (which must not be confused with 
the Beefsteak Club, or other sporadic 
societies), but can find none earlier than the 
foregoing. 

There was a Beefsteak Club in the reign of 
Queen Anne (Spectator, No. 9, 10 March, 
1710/11): Dr. King dedicated his 'Art of 
Cookery ' to it. John Timbs in his ' History 
of Clubs and Club Life ' refers to several 
other Beefsteak Clubs. 

FRANK SCHLOESSER. 



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GRANGE COURT, ST. CLEMENT DANES 
(11 S. iii. 28). Mr. Canning, attorney, 
who lived next door to " The Grange Inn " 
in Carey Court, " facing Lincoln's Inn Play- 
house," offered in 1742 a reward of thirty 
shillings for the recovery of 

" a new superfine cloth Coat, of a light Colour, made 
Frock - Fashion, with little Stiffening, had a Roll 
Sleeve, a very narrow fall-down Velvet Collar, a 
Plait-behind, lin'd with Shalloon, and Silver Plate 
Buttons on when lost." Daily Advertiser, 25 March. 

Was not this Mr. Canning probably the un- 
fortunate father of the distinguished George 
Canning, who, when he came to London, 
entered himself of the Middle Temple, 
and was called to the Bar ? 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 

OWLS CALLED " CHERUBIMS " (11 S. ii. 505 , 
iii. 15). The likeness of the bird to the 
cherub is indicated by the fact that a well- 
known Oxford don secured nicknames 
from both. From Jowett's ' Life and 
Letters,' by Campbell and Abbott (1897), 
I gather (p. 66) that Mrs. Grote called Jowett 
" the cherub," and Mrs. Ferrier of St. 
Andrews " the little downy owl." 

HIPPOCLTDES. 

QUAKER OATS (U.S. ii. 528; iii. 75). I 
may be wrong, but I have always taken it for 
granted that the name owed its origin to the 
fact that the gentleman who introduced 
Quaker Oats to the public is a member of 
the Society of Friends. 

EGERTON GARDINER. 

SHIP LOST AT SEA IN THE FIFTIES (11 S. ii. 
528 ; iii. 76). The vessel in which Thomas 
Hall, brother of the late Sir John Hall, 
Premier of New Zealand, left this country in 
1852 was burnt to the water's edge and its 
passengers transferred to another boat. 

S. D. C. 

PAUPER'S BADGE (US. ii. 487 ; iii. 55). 
In Scotland the beggar's badge appears to 
have been enforced at an earlier date than the 
pauper's badge (referred to at the first 
reference) in England. Mr. Ingleby Wood in 
his ' Scottish Pewter- Ware and Pewterers ' 
says, p. 4, that in 1574 " an Act was passed 
requiring all deserving beggars to wear a 
pewter or leaden badge for the purpose of 
distinguishing them from the ' sorners and 
vagabonds,' as the undeserving were termed," 
and that the Scottish gipsies " did not hesi- 
tate to forge these badges for sale to other 
rogues and as a means of obtaining alms 
for themselves from the charitably disposed." 



A special chapter of Mr. Wood's book r 
pp. 115-21, is devoted to the subject of 
' Beggars' Badges.' No. XXXI. of the very 
fine plates which adorn the book shows ten 
examples of the collection of beggars' badges- 
(many of them of pewter) which is to be 
found in the National Museum of Antiquities 
of Scotland, Edinburgh. Another collection 
may be seen in the Smith Institute, Stirling. 
G. L. APPERSON. 



A Quaker Post-Bag : Letters to Sir John Eodcs 
of Barlbrough Hall and to John Gratton of 
Many ash, 1693-1742. Selected and edited 
by Mrs. Godfrey Locker-Lampson. (Longmans 
&Co.) 

THE book before us is of unusual interest. Though 
the literature of the Society of Friends published 
in the seventeenth and " eighteenth centuries 
has long attracted attention, these letters are 
widely different from any of the others which are 
generally known. They reveal the ordinary 
domestic life of the Quakers in a manner not 
found elsewhere, and give the reader a clearly 
denned impression of the gentle and kindly 
characters of Sir John Rodes of Barlbrough Hall 
and his circle of friends. Ideas are, perhaps, 
too often repeated, for his correspondents were 
not invariably on an equal level of intellectual 
development with himself, some of them being, 
simple people who valued not only his sterling, 
goodness, but also his position as a baronet 
the only Quaker baronet in England, so far as. 
we know. Their admiration did not prevent 
them from speaking freely, however, when they 
considered that it was a duty ; and none of them 
was afraid of giving unasked advice. Living in 
an age when the tie of marriage was considered 
almost a necessity for every man of good repute r 
they constantly offered suggestions which in 
these days would be stigmatized as highly 
impertinent. 

Thomas Lawson, although he did not know 
Sir John by sight, evidently took great interest 
in his character and pursuits. He had heard 1 
that the baronet was fond of plants, and seems 
to have credited him with a sympathy for botan- 
ists, since he draws attention to the fact that he 
himself has wandered in all directions in search of 
specimens, and further avows that he takes 
interest in antiquarian matters also, though 
botany is his chief study. The ardent desire 
he had to spread knowledge is proved by the fact 
that when George Fox, William Penn, and others 
became anxious to buy land near London for a 
" Garden School House " where all kinds of 
English plants and many foreign varieties were 
to be cultivated, Lawson determined to have a 
hand in the work. His project was to write a 
book in Latin for the use of the students, so that 
they might study the ancient language which they 
were intended to acquire, and at the same time 
learn something of the botanical specimens 
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which might have produced excellent results, was 
never carried out, though the Master of Christ's 
College, Cambridge, spoke of it as likely to "fill 
the nation with philosophers." It was probably 
hindered by some person or persons in authority, 
whose powers of thwarting the development of 
natural science are not dwelt upon. 

Among the letters of Henry Gouldney to Sir 
John Bodes is a most interesting document which 
is reproduced in facsimile, but is, we believe, on a 
smaller scale than the original. Its title is ' The 
Humble Address of the People called Quakers 
from their yearly meeting in London, the 26th 
Day of the Third Month called May, 1716.' It is 
well composed, but, we must confess, more 
flattering in the passages relating to what they 
called "unnatural rebellion" than we should 
have anticipated. We believe it to be a docu- 
ment of the greatest rarity, unknown to almost 
the whole of the Quakers of the present day. 

John Tomkins, who wrote many of the letters, 
had a wider range of thought than the majority 
of the correspondents. His account of the great 
storm of November, 1703, which must have been 
of tropical violence, should be consulted by 
modern meteorologists. It is not improbable that 
some passages in it give a better description of 
that tremendous gale than can be found elsewhere. 

IN The Fortnightly Mr. J. L. Garvin's political 
article bears the title ' From Reval to Potsdam,' 
and is largely concerned with the building and 
control of the Bagdad Bailway. Mr. Swift 
MacNeill in ' Foreign Policy and Parliamentary 
Control ' points once more to the predominance 
of the Cabinet in these latter days which is 
beginning to attract general attention. Mr. 
William Archer has an interesting account of 
' The Portuguese Bepublic,' more favourable than 
some we have recently read, and very properly 
including some of the history which led to the 
Revolution. ' The Kaiser's Conquest,' by Bri- 
tannicus, points out that the German Emperor 
has returned to that style of speech which at the 
end of 1908 led to a period of discretion and 
reserve, and that the consequent campaign against 
him has failed this time to reveal a " determined 
popular opinion." ' Tolstoy's Last Days,' by 
Zinaida Vengerowa, is an exaggerated article 
which does not impress us in the least. Mrs. 
Woods adds here to her Cornhill articles one on 
' Round Table Mountain ' ; and " G." gives an 
alarming account of the prevalence of ' Anarchist 
Propaganda in England.' 

At the end of the number we find two articles 
concerned with ancient Greece, for Mr. C. G. D. 
Roberts's ' Heliodore of the Myrtles ' gives a 
pretty picture of the lady as the chief love of 
Meleager, and Walter Lennard's fifth section ' In 
Search of Egeria ' introduces the amorist talking 
Sappho with a French lady. This section is 
obviously the work of an expert scholar, and, 
looking through the advertisements in this 
number, we notice that these clever studies are 
now revealed as by TMr. W. L. Courtney. 

IN The Cornhill for February Mr. Stephen 
Gwynn, M.P., has a lively article on ' Electioneer- 
ing in Ireland,' and Mrs. Woods's " Pastel " is 
' By the East Coast,' beginning with Beira, and 
ending with Zanzibar. As usual, Mrs. Woods 
gives us a good deal of information in a pleasant 
style: Prof. G. H. Bryan in ' The Wastage of 



Men, Aeroplanes, and Brains ' points out that- 
flying in the air " has been developed in a one- 
sided way, and this on the most dangerous side." 
The conditions of stability have not been suffi- 
ciently considered by aviators largely innocent 
of mathematics. Mr. Marmaduke Pickthall has 
an excellent short story, ' The Tale of a Camp/ 
in which the servants of a party touring in 
Palestine take advantage of the conceit of the 
missionary who leads it, and make him do much 
of their work. The talk of the servants is par- 
ticularly vivid, but we should be glad to know 
what a " khawajah " is. Mr. F. E. Dugdale 
writes on ' Blue Jimmy : the Horse Stealer,* 
who was once famous in the West of England. 
Nineteen times he was brought before a judge, 
and the eighteenth trial, in 1822, was so lucky an 
escape for him that the wonder is he pursued his 
thieving after it. Unfortunately for him, he 
had the same judge on his last two appearances 
in court, and recognized in 1825 that his fate was 
sealed. Mr. A. C. Benson's study of ' Bishop 
Wilkinson ' retains the remarkable level of 
interest which his series of people who have in- 
fluenced him has had from the beginning. His 
subject in this case is a fine example of spirituality 
with whom *' personal relation with God " was 
wonderfully vivid. The new chapters of ' The 
Lost Iphigenia ' are both lively and arresting. 
We are rather disappointed with the literary 
competitions, which seem so far to afford little 
scope for critical power and much for mere 
industry. 

The Nineteenth Century has abundance of 
politics, with which we do not care to deal. Sir 
R. Anderson tackles ' The Problem of the Criminal 
Alien,' and suggests as an expert what common 
sense no doubt suggested to a good many persons 
lately that an alien anarchist living by crime 
ought to be allowed to go free only in virtue of a 
permis de sejour. He also thinks that the posses- 
sion of a revolver without a magisterial licence 
should be made a criminal offence, in order to 
put a stop to armed burglars. Dr. T. B. Hyslop 
writes with ample experience of lunatics on- 
1 Post-Illusionism and Art in the Insane,' hinting 
obliquely at the Post-Impressionists. While 
his over-use of scientific words endorses his ex- 

rrience as a doctor, we do not gather that he 
inclined to admire symbolism or anything 
beyond photographic representation (which is 
hardly art) in the sane, and there are several 
" question -begging " adjectives in his clever dis- 
course. Canon Beeching on ' The Revision of the 
Prayer Book ' explains a question on which some 
misconception exists. Mr. Stephen Gwynn has a 
striking paper on ' The Writings and Opinions of 
General Sir W T illiam Butler,' a man who was 
admirable alike as soldier and writer. Of the 
remaining articles, that by the Abbe" Ernest 
Dimnet is by far the most interesting. He writes 
English with remarkable force and point, and 
explains the curious position held by the very 
able group who bring out the daily paper, Action 
FranQaise. Royalist, but not at one with official 
Royalism, this paper has a great influence on 
anti-Republic journalists outside Paris. The 
Abb<* contrasts this lively source of abuse, protest, 
and insolence with the inertness of the Radical 
majority in France. But, after all, it is always 
the defeated and dissatisfied minority that makes 
most of the epigrams and complaints. 



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Mr. William Loftie Rutton, a frequent and 
diligent contributor to our columns. The Tenth 
Series contains a number of contributions by him 
to London topography. 

THOMAS FORSTER. By the death of Mr. 
Thomas Forster, which took place at his residence, 
68, Edinburgh Road, Walthamstow, on the 29th 
ult., aged nearly 71, ' N. & Q.' loses a reader of 
some 40 years, and an occasional contributor. 
Mr. Forster was the eldest son of Mr. John 
Forster, of Colchester, and afterwards of Islington. 
His great-grandfather was John Forster of 
Winteringham, a local poet of some repute, who 
died in 1809, and whose poems were published 
in two booklets in 1797. He also wrote a narrative 
of his own life. Thomas Forster was a life member 
of the Essex Archaeological Society, and more 
recently a member of the North London Anti- 
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bookseller in Colchester, and, apart from a 
brief period when he lived in Kennington, passed 
the last 10 or 12 years of his life in Walthamstow. 
CHAS. HALL CROUCH. 



in <E0msp0tttottiB. 



J. T. F. (' Villikins and his Dinah '). See 10 Si 
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CONTENTS.-No. 60. 

NOTES : Warwick Lane and its Historical Associations, 
121 Quotations in Jeremy Taylor, 122 Richardson's 
Supposed Derbyshire Connexions, 123 Richardson and the 
Methodists Sir J. Davies and Francis Bacon, 124 'The 
Minor ' and ' The Methodist ' Penn Memorial, St. Mary 
Redcliffe, Bristol Domenico Cagnoni Droz's Spectacle 
Me"cauique, 125 Sir John Mundy " Too many turnpikes 
to pay" "God made the country, and man made the 
t own " Coutances, Winchester, and the Channel Islands 
Hair Folk-lore in Mexico -Trade-Mark granted by 
Letters Patent, 126. 

QUERIES : " Phillymaclink" Turner and Peake Families 
Richardson's Birth Underground Soho 'Crystals from 
Sydenham ' Governors of the Royal Hospital, Chelsea, 
127 Walter Haddon W. and G. Ireland Epigram in 
Schopenhauer " Let us go hence, my songs "French 
Quotation Authors Wanted " When she was good," Ac. 
"O dear, my good masters," 128" Cruel of heart were 
they" Geneva perfuming the World "Had I Wist," 
Bogy Twenty-Four Acts of Chivalry W. A. Bennett 
B. Pring W. M. Tollner Scarborough Spa Murderers 
reprieved for Marriage H. Ginger Ibbetson J. 
Janeway " No great shakes," 129. 

REPLIES : Sir Charles Wentworth Dilke " Tewke," 
"Tuke," 130 "Tertium Quid" "Vail" : its Use by 
Scott Hungarian Bibliography" Hie locus odit, amat," 
Ac. Pyrrhus's Toe, 131 T. J. Thackeray Thackeray 
and the Stage ' Flying Dutchman '' Death of Capt. 
Cook' M. G. Drake -Gataker Prickly Pear, 132- John 
de Cosington Guichard d'Angle, 133 D'Israeli of 
Dublin " Corbie-steps ", Sweetapple Surname Anne 
Boleyn, 134 Watson Family Battle in Lincolnshire, 135 
" Goulands " Authors Wanted Lacy as Place-Name, 
136 Oundle-Dryden as Place-Name, 137 " Stencil" 
Roger Gollop, M. P. Queen's Regiment, 138. 

NOTES ON BOOKS :-Verrall on Euripides-' The National 
Review.' 

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WARWICK LANE 
AND ITS HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS. 

I HAVE not seen the recently published book 
by the late Sir Walter Besant called ' London, 
the City,' but from the review published in 
The Athenceum for 28 January I gather 
that, with a few exceptions, it contains 
little or no fresh material which might add to 
our available knowledge of the history of the 
City. As the reviewer says, an opportunity 
has been lost, for the City of London is 
o interlinked with the history of England 
that it affords the best possible groundwork 
for instruction in the material facts of that 
history. If the London teachers could see 
their way to taking their charges on Satur- 
day afternoons to those localities which are 



! associated with historic events, and giving a 
! short sketch of the distinguished characters 
who lived in them, it would lend a reality 
to their historical studies which mere book- 
learning can never afford. If the children are 
reading about the Wars of the Roses, for 
instance, and are able to pace along the street 
in which the " Kingmaker " kept open 
house, it will help them to realize, if they are 
in the hands of a skilful instructor, that the 
Earl was no half -mythical figure, but was as 
much alive in his own day as Mr. Asquith or 
Mr. Balf our is in ours. 

No street is more filled with instruction of 
this kind than Warwick Lane. Lying under 
the shadow of the great Cathedral, and, 
to judge from the ancient name, the site of 
the residence of the Dean of that church, it 
came in the days of King Edward III. 
into the possession of Thomas de Beauchamp, 
Earl of Warwick, one of the greatest nobles 
of his day, and an original founder of the 
Order of the Garter. He died of the 
pestilence in 1369, and was succeeded in 
the possession of Warwick Inn by his second, 
but eldest surviving, son, Thomas, who, 
after a chequered career, died in 1401. 
He was succeeded by his eldest son Richard, 
who died in 1439. His son Henry succeeded 
as a boy, but was accorded the highest 
honours by King Henry VI., who not only 
recognized liim as the Premier Earl of 
England, with the special privilege of wearing 
a gold circlet, but also created him Duke 
of Warwick, and crowned him with his own 
hands as King of the Isle of Wight. He 
survived the grant of these honours but a 
few months, and died in 1445 at the early 
age of 22. His widow, the Duchess Cicille of 
Stow, resided in the house till 1450, when it 
came into the possession of Richard Nevill, 
eldest son of Richard, Earl of Salisbury, 
through his marriage with Anne Beau- 
champ, the sister and eventual heiress of 
Henry, Duke of Warwick. He retained it 
till his death in 1471, when, with the rest of 
the Nevill honours and possessions, it fell 
into the hands of his son-in-law, the ill-fated 
Clarence. In this house the Kingmaker, 
with his 600 retainers clad in red jackets, 
embroidered with the badge of Warwick 
before and behind, maintained a magnificent 
hospitality. 

A short walk would bring the party to 
Dowgate Hill, on the east side of which, 
on ground now covered by Cannon Street 
Station, stood a fine old house called the 
Erber, or, as we should say in modern 
English, the Arbour. This house, formerly 
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granted to the Kingmaker's grandfather, 
Ralph, Lord Nevill of Raby and Earl of 
Westmorland, and was inherited by the 
Earl of Warwick. Here his father, the 
Earl of Salisbury, lodged with 500 horse- 
men in 1458, when the " Congress of Barons " 
assembled in London. The varying fortunes 
of the Beauchamps and Nevills, two powerful 
families that greatly influenced history in the 
time of the later Plantagenets, could nowhere 
be better illustrated than in the district 
bordering the Thames between the Fleet and 
the Walbrook. It affords a promising field 
for an intelligent teacher with some know- 
ledge of history and a gift of exposition. 

Another distinguished resident of Warwick 
Lane, who is not, I think, mentioned by 
topographical writers, was Nicholas Wotton 
(ob. 1567), Dean of Canterbury and York, 
and Ambassador to Charles V. (Hist. MSS. 
Comm., Rep. 9, p. 9 b). His career also 
affords interesting points for treatment. 

W. F. PRIDEATJX. 



QUOTATIONS IN JEREMY TAYLOR. 
(See 11 S. i. 466 ; ii. 65.) 

A SCHOLAR of distinction who died recently, 
being once asked what he thought was the 
chief hindrance to the development of the 
particular branch of study in which he was 
engaged, named a learned, elaborate, and 
generally received textbook, on the ground 
that its treatment of the subject produced an 
erroneous impression that, certainty having 
now been attained, no field was open for 
further research. In the s&me way there is 
sometimes a danger that the standard 
edition of an English author may be too 
readily regarded by publishers and the 
public as exhaustive and final, and the 
student, in consequence, discouraged irom 
making further investigations. 

The edition of Jeremy Taylor in ten 
volumes (1847-54) by the Rev. Charles 
Page Eden, Fellow of Oriel College, deservedly 
figures in booksellers' catalogues as the 
*' best edition." In especial, very great 
industry was shown by Eden in identifying 
his author's numerous citations, in which 
part of his task he received considerable 
help from the Rev. Alex. Taylor and 
the Rev. Edward Marshall, the latter a 
contributor for many years to ' N. & Q.' 
But it may not be generally recognized 
that in many cases their attempts to trace 
Taylor's sources proved unsuccessful. The 
following are some of the passages in vol. iv., 
" ENIAYTO2. A Course of Sermons for all 



the Sundays of the Year," where the notes of 
this edition can be supplemented. I have 
used the indexes of 1854, which take into 
account some corrections introduced in the 
latest issue of these volumes. 

P. ^52. prj KaQapy yap KaQapov e<a7TTO-#cu 
/x?7 ov QtfjLiTov y. These words are certainly 
to be found, as Eden points out, in Hierocles's 
commentary on the ' Carmina Pythagorica,* 
but it is a singular omission not to mention 
that they occur originally in Plato, ' Phsedo,* 
67 B. 

P. 190. " Furorem illnm conviviorum, et 
foedissimum patrimoniorum exitium culi- 
nam." See Seneca, ' De Beneficiis,' lib. i. 
10, 2 : " nunc conviviorum vigebit furor 
et foedissimum patrimoniorum exitium, 
culina." 

P. 195. " They are like the tigers of Brazil, 
which when they are empty are bold and 
swift and full of sagacity ; but being full, 
sneak away from the barking of a village 
dog." See ' Purchas his Pilgrimage,' Part I. 
(1617), p. 1026, in the account of " Brasil" : 
" the Tygre, which being hungry, is verie 
hurtfull ; being full, T\ill flee from a Dogge." 

P. 200. "Neither will.... the Cisalpine 
suckets [" tucets " in 1st ed., according to 
Eden's marginal note] or gobbets of condited 
bull's-flesh, minister such delicate spirits 
to the thinking man." It is surprising that 
the reading of the first edition should have 
failed to put Eden on the track of this. The 
" tucets " are obviously the " tuceta crassa " 
of Persius, Sat. ii. 42, included in the extract 
from Persius on p. 189 of this volume. The 
problem is thus a simple one, and it is easy 
to unearth Taylor's source in the Scholiast 
on that passage : " Tuceta apud Galloa 
Cisalpinos bubula dicitur, condimentis qni- 
busdam crassis oblita, ac macerata " (I 
quote from Casaubon's ed. of Persius, 1605, 
where " tucceta " is spelt with one c). 

P. 222. " Marcus Aurelius said, that ' a 
wise man ought often to admonish his wife, 
to reprove her seldom, but never to lay his 
hands upon her.' " See Antonio Guevara's 
' Marco Aurelio con el Relox de Principes,' 
Book II. chapter 21. "The sixteenth 
century knew no more popular book, no 
more potent influence, than ' The Diall of 
Princes,' translated from Guevara by Thomas 
North (1557)." C. Whibley in" ' Camb. 
Hist, of Eng. Lit.,' vol. iv. p. 9. 

P. 258. " I remember that in the apologues 
of Phaedrus it is told concerning an ill- 
natured fellow. . . ." For this curious story 
see ' Gesta Romanorum,' No. 157 ; and 
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P. 259. " Qua3 fuerat fabula poena fuit." 
Martial, ' Lib. Spectae./ vii. 12. 

P. 263. " When the Boeotians asked the 
oracle by what they should become happy, 
the answer was made, 'Ao^/S^o-arras ev 
Trpaf av, ' wicked and irreligious persons are 
prosperous ' : and they taking the devil at 
his word, threw the inspired Pythian, the 
ministering witch, into the sea," &c. See 
Zenobius, cent. ii. 84 ; Leutsch and Schnei- 
dewin, * Paroemiographi Grseci,' torn. i. p. 53. 
Taylor may have read it in Schott's 
* Adagia sive Proverbia Graecorum ex 
Zenobio seu Zenodoto,' &c. (Antwerp, 1612). 

P. 349. " Quisquis magna dedit, voluit 
sibi magna rependi." See Martial, v. 59, 3. 
" Rependi " should be " remitti." 

EDWABD BENSLY. 



SAMUEL RICHARDSON'S SUPPOSED 
DERBYSHIRE CONNEXIONS. 

(See 10 S. ix. 261.) 

NEARLY three years ago I considered it 
necessary, for the sake of historical truth, 
to traverse in the pages of * N. & Q.' a claim 
advanced by Dr. Cox to kinship with the 
author of 'Clarissa.' After showing the 
impossibility of the Richardsons of Derby, 
from whom Dr. Cox is descended, having 
been related to the novelist in the way he 
claimed, and the lack of evidence in favour 
even of remote relationship between the two 
Richardson families, I proceeded to discuss 
Dr. Cox's attempt to fix Smalley as the 
probable place of the novelist's birth, and of 
his education at the " private grammar 
school in Derbyshire " where he acquired 
" only common school learning." I re- 
marked that " Richardson may have been 
born at or near Smalley he may have been 
educated at Smalley but there is not the 
slightest evidence of it." 

I must blame myself for having overlooked 
a reference which would, I think, have 
enabled me more positively to rebut the 
second part of Dr. Cox's conjecture. To the 
* Victoria County History of Derbyshire ' 
(vol. ii., 1907), a work which owes much to 
Dr. Cox's unique knowledge of the county 
records, Mr. A. F. Leach contributes an 
account of the elementary schools founded 
before 1800. From this it appears (p. 276) 
that, by deed dated 19 March, 1712, John and 
Samuel Richardson settled lands on trust 
that, after the death of the survivor of 
them, the trustees should build a school- 
house at Smalley and pay 10Z. yearly to a 
schoolmaster for teaching twelve poor boyfi 



to read, write, cast accounts, or the rules- 
of grammar, or other school learning. The 
school, Mr. Leach says, was built in 1721. 

If this was the school which Dr. Cox had in 
his mind, we must dismiss the possibility of 
his suggestion being correct, for it is clear 
that the novelist, born about 1689, could 
not have been ducated there. The will of 
Samuel Richardson of Smalley, abstracted 
in a, foot-note to my article (10 S. ix. 262), 
was not proved until 7 April, 1719, when his 
brother John was still alive. 

The following marriages, culled from 
Phillimore's ' Derbyshire Parish Registers,' 
probably relate to families mentioned in my 
article : 

Vol. IV. St. Alkmund's, Derby. 

Mr. John Cantrell, of this p., and Mrs. Mary 
Richardson, of Foremark Park, at Twyford 
Church, by his brother, Mr. Cantrell, lie. 15 Mar.,. 
1715/16. P. 18. 

Joseph Rushby, of St. Peter's, and Anne 
Richardson, of Foremark. 22 Feb., 1722/3. 
P. 22. 

Vol. V. St. Michael's, Derby. 

Raph Richardson and Sara Lancaster. 14 Jan.. 
1644/5. P. 62. 

George Richardson, p. All Saints', merchant, 
and Emma Griffith. 29 Dec., 1812. P. 110. 

Vol. V. West Hallam. 

Mr. John Hieron, of Little Eaton, and Mrs. 
Martha Richardson. 27 Mar., 1711. P. 125. 

Vol. VI. St. Peter's, Derby. 
William Richardson, p. All Saints', and Hannah^ 
Hunt, lie. 25 Apl., 1769. P. 63. 

The following further marriages, from the 
same source, may also be placed among 
these notes, for the convenience of future 
inquirers into the pedigrees of Derby 
Richardsons : 

Vol. II. Brailsford. 

Joseph Ault, of this par., and Jane Richardson, 
p. of St. Werburgh's. Derby, lie. 21 April, 1758.. 
P. 12. 

Thomas Richardson, p. of St. Alkmund's, 
Derby, and Mary Ault, lie. 8 Sept., 1760. P. 12. 

Vol. IV. St. Alkmund's, Derby. 
Mr. William Yates, p. of St. Werburgh's, and 
Mary Richardson, of Willington, lie. 19 Feb., 
1716/17. P. 18. 

Vol. VI. St. Peter's, Derby. 

John Taylour and Margaret Richardson. 16 
July, 1723. P. 45. 

Christopher Richardson and Hannah Warren. 
6 Nov., 1764. P. 60. 

From The Reliquary, vol. xi. p. 140, I 
learn that " Mary, wife of Mr. Richardson of 
Smalley," was buried at St. Alkmund's, 
Derby, on 18 September, 1669. This is the 
only bit of evidence known to me which 
gives any support to Dr. Cox's idea that his 
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In The European Magazine for August 
1789 (partii. p. 149), is recorded the marriage 
of "Mr. Henry Richardson, jun., of Derby 
to Miss Gould, daughter of the late Johr 
Gould, Esq., of Macclesfield." No date is 
given. 

The Rev. Ralph Price (1715-79) married 
Sarah, dau. and coheir of Richard Richard 
on of Smalley, on 18 Feb., 1739, and was 
father of Sir Charles Price, 1st Bt. -See 
Burke's * Peerage ' under ' Rugge-Price.' 
ALEYN LYELL, READE. 

Park Corner, Blundellsands, near Liverpool. 



SAMUEL RICHARDSON AND THE METHOD- 
ISTS. In the ' History of Sir Charles 
Grandison ' Richardson avoided calling his 
^works novels there are several interesting 
references to the rising sect of the Method- 
ists, who are, however, not mentioned at 
all in either ' Pamela ' or ' Clarissa Har- 
lowe.' During the fourteen years between 
the publication of Richardson's first and 
last novel (1740-54) the Methodists had 
greatly increased in importance, a fact 
-which explains their frequent mention in 
' Sir Charles Grandison.' 

In the letters of Lady Mary Wortley 
Montagu a similar change of attitude may 
be noted. On 15 February, 1741, she writes : 

" The news I have heard from London is, 
Lady Mary Hastings having disposed of herself 
to a poor wandering Methodist." ' Letters,' 
vol. ii. p. 88, ed. 1893. 

Eighteen years later (19 July, 1759) 
Lady Mary refers to the Methodists in a 
more friendly and sympathetic way : 

" No mountain girl ever trembled more at one 
of Whitfield's pathetic lectures than I do at the 
word ' blindness.' " /&., ii, p. 362. 

The references in 'Sir Charles Grandison ' 
to the Methodists are always in accordance 
with the characters of the persons in the 
novel. Lady G (Charlotte Grandison) is 
well disposed towards them, as may be seen 
in the way she writes about the newly 
converted Mrs. O'Hara, the mother of 
Emily Jervois : 

" By the way, do you know that Mrs. O'Hara 
is turned Methodist ? True as you are alive. 
And she labours hard to convert her husband 
(Major O'Hara). Thank God she is anything that 
is serious ! These people have really great merit 
with me, in her conversion. I am sorry that our 
own clergy are not so zealously in earnest as they. 
They have, really, my dear, if we may believe 
aunt Eleanor, given a face of religion to subter- 
ranean colliers, tinners, and the most profligate of 
men, who hardly ever before heard of the word, 
or thing. But I am not turning Methodist, 
Harriet. No, you will not suspect me." ' Sir 
Charles Grandison,' vol. vi. p. 3, ed. 1902. 



Lady G refers again to Mrs. O'Hara' s 
conversion by the Methodists (ib,, vi. 150). 
She also mentions in a letter that her maiden 
aunt Eleanor has become a Methodist : 

"Do you know that the good creature was a 
Methodist in Yorkshire ? "Ib., v., 59. 

Mr. Selby is prejudiced against the 
Methodists : 

" The Methodists, Sir Charles, what think you 
of Methodists ? Say you love them ; and, and, 
and, adds-dines, you shall not be my nephew." 
Ib., vi. 190. 

' Sir Charles Grandison * contains much 
about the trading classes of London, and 
is not so restricted to country life and 
English country people as ' Pamela,' ard 
to a lesser extent ' Clarissa Harlowe.' 
Much that is interesting about ' Sir Charles 
Grandison ' may be found in an excellent 
work by a Dutch scholar, Jan ten Brink, 
' De Roman in Brieven, 1740-1840.' 

H. G. WARD. 
Aachen. 

SIR JOHN DAVIES AND FRANCIS BACON. 
Sir John Davies in his 'Nosce Teipsum' 
(1599) writes: 

Although they say, " Come let us eat and drinke"; 
Our life is but a sparke, which quickly dies ; 
Though thus they say, they know not what tc 

think, 
But in their minds ten thousand doubts arise. 

Therefore no heretikes desire to spread 
Their light opinions, like these Epicures ; 
For so the staggering thoughts are comforted, 
And other men's assent their doubt assures. 

Yet though these men against their conscience 

strive, 

There are some sparkles in their flintie breasts 
Which cannot be extinct, but still revive ; 
That though they would, they cannot quite be 

beasts. 

These verses of an Irish Attorney-General 
are neatly paraphrased by the English 
Solicitor-General, who published in 1612 an 
essay containing the following words : 

" It appeareth in nothing more, that atheisme 
s rather in the lip, then in the heart of man, 
hen by this ; that atheists will ever be talking 
if that their opinion, as if they fainted in it, 
vithin themselves, and would be glad to be 
trengthned, by the consent of others : Nay 
more, you shall have atheists strive to get dis- 
iples as it fareth with other sects .... Epicurus is 
harged. . . .They that deny a God, destroy man's 
nobility : For certainly, man is of kinne to the 
Beasts, by his body ; and if he be not of kinne to 
God, by his spirit, ho is a base and ignoble creature." 
Bacon, Essay XVI. 

have both Davies and Bacon drawn their 
nspiration from a common fount ? 

P. A. McELWAINE. 

Dublin. 



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' THE MINOR ' AND ' THE METHODIST.' 
Mr. Percy Fitzgerald, in his recent biography 
of Samuel Foote (pp. 187-8), in discussing 
' The Minor,' repeats the oft-repeated story 
of the Archbishop of Canterbury and his 
connexion with that farce, as follows : 

" Not unnaturally, it went round that he 
[Foote] had offered to submit the piece to the 
Archbishop of Canterbury's perusal. On. the 
instant it was humorously forecasted that Foote 
would gravely issue an announcement that it had 
been revised *by his Grace the Archbishop, who 
would thus be accountable for Mother Cole and 
other enormities. His Grace was shrewd enough 
not to fall into the trap, as it was considered to be. 
Foote's jest on the Archbishop of Canterbury 
was well founded, for he strove hard to prevent 
the piece," &c. 

To this perfectly clear recital of well- 
known facts the biographer appends the 
following mystifying foot-note : 

" I confess that I cannot see the point of Foote's 
jest of opposing ' Tom Cant.' by ' Tarn Cant.' 
What was ' Tarn Cant ' ? " 

Yet it will be seen that " Foote's jest on 
the Archbishop of Canterbury was well 
founded." 

If Mr. Fitzgerald had made a careful 
examination of his own reference, he would 
have been " shrewd enough not to fall into 
the trap." In a letter dated 24 November, 
1760, to George Montagu, Horace Walpole 
refers to the attempt by the Archbishop 
of Canterbury to prevent the licensing of 
' The Minor.' The letter closes with, 
" Foote says he will take out a licence to 
preach, Sam. Cant against Tom Cant." It 
would seem hardly necessary to point out 
that, at that time, Thomas Seeker was Arch- 
bishop of Canterbury and that the pun 
is on the abbreviation " Cant." 

Oddly enough, John Former (' Historical 
and Biographical Essays,' p. 373) makes 
exactly the same mistake as Mr. Fitzgerald ; 
but, in his case, it would seem that it was a 
typographical error. 

By a curious slip on my part, the whole 
point of my note respecting the authorship 
of 'The Methodist' (see US. ii. 526) has 
been lost. In the last line for ' The Method- 
ist ' read ' The Minor.' 

WATSON NICHOLSON. 

Authors' Club, S.W. 

PENN MEMORIAL, ST. MARY REDCUFFE, 
BRISTOL. L. M. R. is wrong in assuming 
(ante, p. 58) that this inscription has not 
appeared in any printed book. So early 
as 1861 it was printed in George Pryee's 
' Popular History of Bristol,' and I dare say 
it is in other local books, for naturally a 



great deal of matter has been printed about 
Admiral Penn and the famous church. 
Mr. Pryce's work is distinguished by the 
number of copies of memorial inscriptions 
and epitaphs it contains. I do not think 
Canon Maud, the present Vicar of St. Mary 
Redcliffe, would object to the churchyard 
inscriptions being copied by any respon- 
sible person for the excellent purpose indi- 
cated by L. M. R. St. Mary's is such an 
important church in all respects that several 
monographs have been written upon it by 
local historians, but it has not yet been 
included in Bell's admirable series o 
cathedrals, abbeys, &c., I believe. 

CHARLES WELLS. 
134, Cromwell Road, Bristol. 

DOMENICO CAGNONI. This prolific en- 
graver, dismissed in the new edition of 
Bryan's ' Dictionary ' with four lines as an 
engraver of " little celebrity," is the subject 
of an exhaustive article, with many illustra- 
tions, in II Libro e la Stampa, July-December, 
1909, pp. 107-24. In the course of the 
article it is stated : 

" Quest' artista veramente geniale, la cui vita, 
ci e nota soltanto in poca parte, e del quale ignori- 
amo cosl la data di nascita come quella di morte,. 
aveva senza fallo derivata dalla scuola veneziana,. 
onde proviene, quella delicatezza di disegno,. 
quella precisione di tratti, quella blanda venusta di 
forma, delle quali ha dato cospicui saggi nella 
sua ricca e svariatissima produzione, che dal 
1754 giunge, non mai interrotta, sino al 1796." 

According to a foot-note, there is no doubt 
that Cagnoni died at Milan in 1796, " ma la 
data esatta manca." His elder son Gaspare 
finished the work begun by his father. The 
titles of 75 books illustrated by Cagnoni are 
given in the bibliography. W. ROBERTS. 

JAQTJET DROZ'S SPECTACLE MECANIQUE. 
(See 10 S. vi. 388, 495.) The following 
advertisements appeared in The Public 
Advertiser during 1776 : 

Wednesday, 21 February : 

At the Great Room, No. 6, King Street, 

Co vent Garden, to be seen this day, 

Spectacle Mecanique 

Or, Mechanical Exhibition, From Switzerland. 

Nature in this exhibition is rivalled by Art; one 
figure writes whatever is dictated to it, another 
draws and finishes in a masterly Manner several 
curious designs ; another plays divers Airs on the 
Harpsichorde. There is also a Pastoral Scene, in 
which is introduced a great Number of Figures : the 
Trees blossom and bear fruit, the Sheep bleat, the 
Dog barks, and the Birds sing ; each so distinctly 
imitating Nature that they exceed every account 
that can be given of them, not only for the Variety 
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Their Mechanism surpasses everything that has 
ever appeared, insomuch that it may be strictly said 
that they will speak for themselves 

2. Friday, 12 April : 

Mr. Jaquet Droz's Mechanical Exhibition is to be 
seen daily, Saturdays and Sundays excepted, 
between the hours of Twelve and Three in the Day, 
and between Seven and Ten in the Evening, at his 
Room, No. 6, in King Street, Co vent Garden. It con- 
sists of a Variety of Automatons, particularly one 
Figure that Draws with Accuracy and Correctness 
clivers Subjects, particularly the Portrait of the 
King and Queen, esteemed a very strong Likeness ; 
another writes any words dictated by the Company. 
There is also a Pastoral piece, consisting of a great 

Variety of Figures 

Admittance Five Shillings. 

3. Monday, 25 November : 

Mr. Jaconet Droz's Mechanical Exhibition is now 

opened at No. 6, in King Street, Covent Garden 

It consists of various Automatic Figures, resembling 
Nature in all their Attitudes, Motions, and Opera- 
tions in a surprising Manner. Many pieces are 
added this Season which were never exhibited 
before 

If one or two persons should chuse an Exhibition 
for themselves, they may have it for a Guinea. 

N.B. Mr. Jaquet Droz has constructed Hands for 
a Person born with Stumps only. They are con- 
trived in such a Manner, that, from the Strength 
as well as the Flexibility of the various joints, he 
can use the Knife or Fork or manage the Reins in 
riding or driving, and even write with great Free- 
dom. Mr. Jaquet Droz natters himself that he can 
very materially assist many Persons who have lost 
any of their Limbs or are lame from Weakness in 
their Joints. 

HORACE BLEACKLEY. 

SIR JOHN MUNDY. MB. P. D. MUNDY 

states at 11 S. i. 403 that Sir John Mundy, 
Mayor of London, was knighted in 1529. 
The true date is 1523, as given in my ' Alder- 
men of London,' p. 47. He is described as 
"Miles" in the lists of Aldermen present 
21 Sept., 1523, 21 Sept., 1524, and 5 Oct., 1526. 
Like other Mayors of that period, he was 
knighted during his year of office. There is 
an earlier date than any of the above in 
which he appears as a knight in the City 
records, viz., 12 March, 1522/3 (Letter-Book 
1ST, fo. 225). ALFRED B.'BEAVEN. 

Leamington. 

" TOO MANY TURNPIKES TO PAY.?' This 

phrase, meaning too many bribes to pay, 
too many "guinea-pigs" to pay, or ex- 
actions in the way of fees, occurs and 
perhaps it is a noteworthy early instance 
in The WhiteTiall Evening Post, 7 October, 
1756 : 

" Our Enemies have hitherto got the Start of us 
notwithstanding the large Sums that have been 
chearfully given for our Defence. A serious Quaker 
has said with a Sneer, that a round Sum was voted 



last Year for the publick Good ; but that the Cash 
being handed from Timothy to Titus, and there 
being many Turnpikes to pay, he despairs to see a 
fair mercantile account how, when, and where the 
Money was issued, and a just Balance settled. The 
Audience were all struck dumb, except a noted 
Stockjobber, who immediately ask'd, When shall 
we have another Lottery ? " 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 
" GOD MADE THE COUNTRY, AND MAN MADE 

THE TOWN." An exact equivalent of this 
line of Cowper's (' Task,' i. 749) occurs in 
Varro (' R. R.,' iii. 1, 3). from whom Cowper 
may have derived the thought : " Divina 
natura dedit agros, ars humana, aedificavit 
urbes." ALEX. LEEPER. 

Trinity College, University of Melbourne. 

COUTANCES, WINCHESTER, AND THE CHAN- 
NEL ISLANDS. It may perhaps be permissible 
to add to the facts collected at 10 S. ii. 68, 
154, 231 ; iii. 154, that Dr. Gairdner on 
p. 306 of vol. i. of his ' Lollardy and the Re- 
formation in England ' has shown that in 
1542 the Bishop of Coutances was attempting 
to exercise spiritual jurisdiction in the 
Channel Islands in the name of the " Bishop 
of Rome," and that Henry VIII. acknow- 
ledged his jurisdiction, though not that of the 
" Bishop of Rome." 

JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT. 

HAIR FOLK-LORE IN MEXICO. The Tara- 
humare folk have many superstitions. One 
of them is illustrated by Carl Lumholtz in 
his ' Unknown Mexico ' (vol. i. p. 235). He 
relates that 

" A shaman once cut his hair short to get new 
thoughts with the new hair, and while it was 
growing he kept his head tied up in a piece of 
cotton cloth to keep his thoughts from escaping." 

L. S. M. 

TRADE - MARK GRANTED BY LETTERS 
PATENT. Those of your readers who take an 
interest in the history of trade and manu- 
factures will perhaps be glad to have their 
attention directed to a case where a patent 
for an invention contained in addition the 
grant of a trade-mark to protect the goods 
made under the patent. 

On 17 December, 1631, a patent was 
granted to Sir William Russell, Sir Basil 
Brooke, Sir Richard Weston, and many 
others for making soap, and the patentees 
were allowed the exclusive use of a device 
consisting of a rose and crown, which w r as to 
be stamped on the hard soap made by them, 
and used for marking the receptacles in 
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only instance that I have met with of the 
grant of a trade -mark by letters patent 
under the Great Seal. This patent is not 
included in the Commissioners of Patents 
printed series. The official reference to the 
enrolment is Patent Roll (Chancery), 
7 Charles I. Part 10, No. 2. R. B. P. 



WE must request corresp9iidents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 



" PHILLYMACLINK," The sobriquet 
*' Phillymaclink," given by New Yorkers 
to the city of Philadelphia, is vouched for as 
far back as 1852 by the Librarian of the 
Historical Society of Pennsylvania, who 
went to Nazareth Hall School that year. 
At the school the New York boys called the 
Philadelphians " Phillymaclinkers." Can 
any one antedate this ? 

ALBERT J. EDMUNDS. 

Historical Society of Pennsylvania. 

TURNER AND PEAKE FAMILIES. The 

register of St. Benet, Paul's Wharf, London, 
vol. ii., Marriages (Harl. Soc., 1910), con- 
tains on p. 327 this item : " 1727, April 2. 
William Turner, of St. Saviour, Southwark, 
Surrey, and Sibylla Peake, of the same." 

The registers of St. Saviour or of St. Olave, 
Southwark, if printed, are not in the Chicago 
libraries. I am interested in learning 
whether this William Turner died before 
1740, whether he and his wife Sibylla had 
any daughters, and whether the wife Sibylla 
remarried before 1740. 

EUGENE F. McPiKE. 

1, Park Row, Chicago. 

SAMUEL RICHARDSON'S BIRTH. Mr. Aus- 
tin Dobson in his ' Life of Richardson ' 
published in 1902 says that the place in 
Derbyshire where Richardson was born is not 
known. The month and day of Richard- 
son's birth also do not seem to be known. 
It would be interesting to hear whether 
anything has been found out on these points 
since 1902. H. G. WARD. 

Aachen. 

[See ante, p. 123.] 

UNDERGROUND SOHO. Can any of your 
readers tell me the history of the old 
underground passage which runs from the 
house occupied by Mr. Thornton Smith, 
furniture dealer, 11, Soho Square, the whole 



length of the Square, and out into the yard of 

Crosse & Blackwell in Falconberg Mews ? 

There was a year ago an old iron door, if I 

remember aright, at the exit in Falconberg 

Mews ; but this seems recently to have been 

j removed. At the other end, in Mr. Thornton 

' Smith's house in Soho Square, there is a 

I doorway, and from some of the windows of 

the house you can trace the line of the 

passage in parts. Has this passage any 

history ? There is a tradition that Lord 

Lovat, who was executed after the Rebellion 

of 1745, hid in this passage ; but Lord 

| Lovat was not captured in London at all. 

There is another spot in Soho with a 
mystery which I should like to fathom. This 
is the William and Mary Passage off Wardour 
Street. Here you have endless under- 
ground cellars of a great wine merchant, 
but it is said that down this passage and in a 
portion of these cellars William III. had his 
stables. CLEMENT K. SHORTER. 

1 CRYSTALS FROM SYDENHAM.' Who was 
the author of ' Crystals from Sydenham,' 
published in 1855 to commemorate the open- 
ing of the Crystal Palace ? It is a very clever 
little book, with imitations not parodies 
of the leading writers of the time : Tenny- 
son, Macaulay, Tupper, Kingsley, &c. It 
is now very scarce. H. N. ELLACOMBE. 
Bitton Vicarage, Bristol. 

GOVERNORS OF THE ROYAL HOSPITAL, 
CHELSEA. I should be glad if any of your 
readers could kindly inform me whether 
there are in existence portraits of the under- 
mentioned officers who held the post of 
Governor of the Royal Hospital, Chelsea ; 
if so, where the portraits are preserved, 
and whether they are paintings, engravings, 
miniatures, or book-plates. 

1. Col. Sir Thomas Ogle, Kt. Served in 
H.M. Holland Regiment of Foot. Governor 
of Royal Hospital, Chelsea, 1 November, 
1686, till his death in November, 1702. 
His son Thomas Ogle married Lady Henrietta 
Bruce, daughter of Robert, 2nd Earl of 
Elgin and 1st Earl of Ailesbury. 

2. Col. John Hales. Served in Holland, 
and wounded at battle of St. Denis, 14 
August, 1678, when Major in what is now 
the Northumberland Fusiliers (5th Foot). 
Governor of Royal Hospital, Chelsea, 17 
November, 1702, to 1714. 

3. Brigadier Thomas Stanwix, M.P. for 
Carlisle, Newport and Yarmouth, I.W. 
Colonel of the 30th Foot and 12th Foot. 
Governor (or Commandant) of Gibraltar, 
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Chelsea, January, 1714/15, to 1720. 
Governor of Kingston-on-Hull, 1722. Died 
14 March, 1725. 

4. General William Evans. Served in 
1st Foot Guards : twice wounded at siege of 
Namur. Colonel afterwards of Regiment of 
Dragoons (now 4th Hussars). Wounded at 
Dunblane in Rebellion of 171516. Governor 
of Royal Hospital, Chelsea, 1722 to 1740. 
Also at one time held the appointments of 
Surveyor of the Meltings and Clerk of the 
Irons in the Mint. Died 29 January, 1740. 
By will left pictures to the Earl of Grantham. 

There are no pictures of the above- 
mentioned officers at the Royal Hospital, 
Chelsea. W. H. W. 

WALTER HADDON. In Munday's edition 
of Stow's ' Survey ' is printed a ten-line 
Latin verse setting forth the six considera- 
tions to be borne in mind by those desirous 
of leading an exemplary career. The verse 
in question is stated to have formed one of 
the inscriptions in the old church of SS. Anne 
and Agnes, but does not occur in conjunction 
with any recorded interment, and no date is 
specified. The name of the author is given 
as "Gualterus Haddonus," however. Who 
was he ? WILLIAM McMuRRAY. 

W. AND G. IRELAND. Can any reader 
inform me if W. Ireland of Sebbon's Build- 
ings, Islington, and G. Ireland of Barnsbury 
Place, Islington, were related to the notorious 
W. H. Ireland ? Their date is circa 1827. 
ALECK ABRAHAMS. 

EPIGRAM IN SCHOPENHAUER. I shall be 
glad if anyone will favour me with an 
English rendering of the following epigram, 
which is quoted in Schopenhauer's essay 
' On Reading and Books ' : 
Leset fleizig die Alten, die wahren eigentlich Alten 
Was die Neuen da von sagen bedeutet nicht viel. 

W. H. C. 

. " LET us GO HENCE, MY SONG'S." I shall 
be glad to know where I can renew my 
acquaintance with a poem commencing 
Let us go hence, my songs, let us go hence. 
Mr Owen Seaman used the form of the lyric 
as a base for a poem in Punch of 3 August 
last, but I have failed to find a reference 
in numerous Dictionaries of Quotations I 
have consulted. A small fragment still 
clings to my memory : 

Yea, though we sang like angels in her ear 
bhe will not hear. 

J. H. K. 



FRENCH QUOTATION. The maxim, " On 
cause mieux quand on ne dit pas, causons," 
occurs in Keats's ' Letters,' vol. i. p. 68 
(Buxton Forman's cheap edition, 1901). 
Whence comes it ? I do not find it in 
the ' Dictionary of Quotations (French) ' by 
T. B. Harbottle and P. H. Dalbiac (Sonnen- 
schein, 1908). NEL MEZZO. 

AUTHORS or QUOTATIONS WANTED. The 
following lines are quoted in Miss Gordon 
Cumming's * Two Years in Ceylon,' vol. ii. 
p. 146. I should be glad to know the 
author, and the poem from which they are 
extracted : 

Not 'neath the domes where crumbling arch and 

column 

Attest the feebleness of mortal hand, 
But in that fane most catholic and solemn 

Which God hath planned 
In that cathedral, boundless as our wonder, 
Whose quenchless lamps the sun and moon supply. 
Its choirs the winds and waves, its organ thunder, 
Its dome the sky. 

I quote from memory, perhaps not quite 
correctly. CHAS. LAISHLEY. 

Wellington, N.Z. 

Close following Love into my house 
Crept Pain and pale-faced Fear ; 
Now are they welcome grown, and dear, 
For, at their passing, Love herself had flown. 

W. V. COLE. 

On a Liskeard borough loving-cup of 
1681 is 

Qui fallit in poculis fallit in omnibus. 
Whence comes it ? YGREC. 

" WHEN SHE WAS GOOD," &c. Is the 
author known of the lines, 

There was a little girl, 

And she had a little curl, 

Bight in the middle of her forehead. 

When she was good 

She was very, very good, 
But when she was bad, she was horrid ! 

They have been attributed to Longfellow. 

J. T. F. 
Durham. 

[At 10 S. ii. 528 it was suggested that Thomas 
Bailey Aid rich was the author.] 

" O DEAR, MY GOOD MASTERS." Can any 
one communicate to me a ballad of which 
the following are the first four lines ? They 
were told me by an old man who has been 
Long dead : 

dear, my good masters, pray what shall we do, 
In this year sixteen hundred and seventy-two ? 
For since Queen Elizabeth mounted the throne, 
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He said they were all he knew, but the persor 
who repeated them to him had told him tha 
they related to an abnormally severe winte 
of the date given. 

These lines seem to have been compose< 
by some one who knew nothing of the grea 
snow of 1614, recently mentioned in these 
pages. ASTARTE. 

" CRUEL OF HEART WERE THEY, BLOODY 
OF HAND." Amongst the still untracec 
quotations in Wordsworth's text is the line 
given above, which occurs in the ' Stanzas 
St. Bees,' No. XI. of the ' Itinerary Poems of 
1833,' 1. 37. Can this be an adaptation of 
or dimly remembered quotation from 
Scott's * Talisman,' chap, xviii., where the 
Hermit of Engaddi says to Coeur de Lion 
" Thou art proud of heart, loose of life, 
bloody of hand" ? R. A. POTTS. 

GENEVA PERFUMING THE WORLD. Who 
wrote that the city of Geneva was " Le grain 
de muse qui parfume le monde " ? 

DAVID HUTCHESON. 

Washington, B.C. 

" HAD I WIST," ANGLO-SAXON BOGY. 
Can any of your readers inform me of the 
name of an Anglo-Saxon fairy-tale in which 
the name of the bogy is " Had I wist " ? 
C. R. C. HOLT. 
Oxford. 

THE TWENTY-FOUR ACTS OF CHIVALRY. 
In that interesting publication of 1910 on 
genealogical subjects, the ' Llyfer Baglan ' 
(1600-1607), transcribed by Bradney, there 
is on p. 57 the following quaint reference : 

" John Pye of the Mynde [Much Dewchurch, Here- 
fordshire], son of Jo n pye, seconde sone of Jo n pye 
of Sadlebowe, Esq. married 3. wiefes ; his first wief 
was Anne, da. to S r Richard Delabyre, Knight ; his 
seconde wief was Anne Brigees ; and his third wief 
was alrothes, da. to Sir Robert Whitney, Lord of 
Whitney. Hee had bye theme 42. childrene, and 
hee had bye Concupines 22 childrene ; Soe that in 
all hee had 64 childrene, as hitt appeareth upon his 
towmbe in the Churche of muchdewechurche. The 
said John Pye was ate Rome, ate Jerusalem, and 
ate the sepulcher of Christ. Hee did the 24 actes 
of Chilvalrye, w'ch fewe men could do theme all." 

Can any reader of * N. & Q.' enumerate and 
describe the " 24 actes of Chilvalrye " here 
referred to ? Kindly state authorities. 

ALAN STEPNEY-GULSTON. 
Derwydd, Llandebie. 

W. A. BENNETT, ESQ., was a member of 
the M.C.C. about 1850, and afterwards lived 
at Cheltenham. Wanted his full name, 
residence, and dates of birth and death. 

P. L. 



B. PRING of Bristol, merchant, living 1840- 
1850, was a well-known patron of cricket. 
Wanted his full name, residence, and dates 
of birth and death. P. L. 

W. M. TOLLNER of Cheam, Esq., living 
1840-50, was another well-known patron of 
cricket. Wanted hie full name, residence, 
and dates of birth and death. P. L. 

SCARBOROUGH SPA. When was the term 
" Spa " earliest associated with Scarborough? 

I find it in a letter of Col. Fairfax to General 
Monk, dated from Kingston-upon-Hull, 

II May, 1660, and therefore only a few days 
before the Restoration. Fairfax incidentally 
remarks : 

" I have never been a stonecast from the works 
here, not having my [? any] warrant from you, 
save for a journey at the season of the year to 
Scarborough Spa." Historical MSS. Commission, 
1 Report on the Manuscripts of F. W. Leyborne- 
Popham,' p. 182. 

ALFRED F. ROBBINS. 

MURDERERS REPRIEVED FOR MARRIAGE. 
Can any of your readers refer me to early 
accounts of a certain town where murderers 
were reprieved by custom, on an offer oi 
marriage from any woman ? This is the 
subject of an Elizabethan ballad at the 
Society of Antiquaries. F. O. M. 

HENRY GINGER was admitted to West- 
minster School, 12 January, 1778. I should 

glad to obtain particulars of his career and 
the date of his death. In all probability he 
vas a son of William Ginger, bookseller 
,o Westminster School, who died 10 Febru- 
iry, 1803 (see 11 S. i. 425, 491). 

G. F. R. B. 

IBBETSON. Samuel Ibbetson was ad- 
mitted to Westminster School in 1717, 
kged 14, and Henry Ibbetson in 1732, aged 
4. I should be glad to obtain any informa- 
ion concerning them. G. F. R. B. 

JAMES JANEWAY was admitted to West- 

ninster School in October, 1722, aged 10. 

should be glad of information about him. 

G. F. R. B. 

" No GREAT SHAKES." When and where 
lid this phrase originate, and what was its 
irst application ? HORACE BLEACKLEY. 



earned chat. ' The next is from Byron s letter to 
lurray of 28 September, 1820: "I had my hands 



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Htpltas. 

SIR CHARLES WENTWORTH DILKE. 
(US. iii. 81.) 

I MAY perhaps be allowed to amplify a 
little the very interesting obituary notice 
written by MB. JOHN COLLINS FRANCIS. 
He remarks that " it is curious that it should 
have been thought that he [Dilke] lacked 
a sense of humour." I quite agree with MB. 
FBANCIS that this is a mistake. Though I 
cannot claim to have been intimate with 
Sir Charles, I knew him for a good many 
years. One day in the smoking-room at the 
House of Commons some four or five of us, he 
being one, were talking about such few witty 
men as there were in the House. I remember 
that Dilke said : "I dare say you fellows will 
be surprised when I tell you who, in my 
opinion, is the wittiest man in the House 
Rasch." This was said probably about 
eight years ago. 

I am not sure that I quite agreed with 
Dilke, but certainly Sir Carne Rasch was, 
at the least, one of the wittiest. His wit 
was subtle and dry, and his speeches, always 
very short, were delivered without nourish 
and with hardly a vestige of a smile ; but I 
think that he could put as much caustic 
into a few words as any man whom I ever 
heard. Most certainly Dilke had a real 
sense of humour in this appreciation. 

Being very industrious, he was an encyclo- 
paedia as to the current business of the House 
of Commons. It naturally happened to me 
pretty often to receive a letter from a con- 
stituent inquiring about such and such a 
Bill, and asking questions thereon. I regret 
to say that it sometimes happened that I 
had never heard, or seen, anything of the 
Bill excepting possibly the title. If I was 
fortunate enough to meet with Dilke, I 
used to tell him of the inquiry and ask for 
information. I do not think that I was ever 
disappointed. He would tell me what the 
Bill was about and its objects. In answer 
to my question, " Well, what am I to say ? " 
he would reply (I was on the other side of 
the House), " From your point of view you 
should say " so-and-so and so-and-so. 

A good many years ago I received from a 
man living at Limasol, Cyprus, who had, 
or thought he had, a grievance, a terribly 
long letter written in Greek. I forget whether 
it was written to Dilke or to me. At all 
events, there was a request, perhaps in a 
covering letter written by some one in 



English, that I should lay the letter before 
Dilke (AtA^i;). I either did so or told him 
of it. It was not the first communication 
which he had had from the aggrieved man. 
He said : " Write to him and tell him to 
write a short letter, and to get some one to 
translate it into English before he sends it." 
" But," said I, " the man can't write a short 
letter." Dilke replied : "Of course, I know 
he can't that's my artfulness." Surely 
here was no lack of humour. 

I have a memory of a dinner-party at the 
Garrick Club given by our late 'editor Joseph 
Knight, "bon chivaler preu et vaillant." 
Dilke was there, and was one of the stars of 
a delightful evening. When he chose to 
dismiss business from his mind, as to which 
he was very serious, he was an admirable 
talker. ROBEBT PIEBPOINT. 



"TEWKE," " TUKE " (11 S. iii. 87). 
I think that this word is perhaps identical 
with obsolete French " teuque, tuque, awn- 
ing," though I can quote no example of the 
latter that is not considerably later than the 
English word. Jal (' Glossaire Nautique') 
gives the forms ten (1667), teugue (1687), 
tugue, tuque (1671). The original meaning, 
according to Jal, is " awning," but the name, 
is applied later to various deck-houses. 
Falconer ('Marine Dictionary,' 1771) gives 
teugue and tugue, but without explanation. 

Lescallier (' Vocabulaire des Termes de 
Marine,' 1777) has " tugue, the poop of a 
frigate, an accomodation at the stern of 
French frigates on the quarter-deck, con- 
taining two cabbins for the captain and the 
first lieutenant," and " toile de tugue, a 
canvas covering for the poop of a frigate." 
Boyer (' French-Eng. Diet.,' 1702) has 
" tuque, a tarpaulin, or tarpawling," which is 
reproduced by Ludwig (' Eng.-French-Ger. 
Diet.,' 1706). It is also in Littr6, but 
merely copied from Jal. 

The earliest dictionary example I have 
found is in Miege (1688) : 

" Tuque, c'est ainsi qu'on appelle une espece 
de faux tillac, ou de couverte, qu'on fait de 
caillebotis ou de simples barreaux ; et qu'on 
eleve au devant de la dunette sur quatre ou six 
piliers, pour se mettre a 1'abri du soleil et de la 
pluie." 

This is probably copied, like the rest of 
Miege, from Richelet (1680). 

Furetiere (1727) gives the variant tuque 
and a similar explanation ; he also notes that 
" les tugues de charpente sont deffendues, 
parce qu'elles rendent le vaisseau trop pesant, 
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is additional evidence that the original 
tuque was a simple awning, or the " canopy 
of tewke " of SIB JAMES MUBBAY'S quota- 
tion (1552-3). There is also an Italian 
tuga, for which I have found only modern 
authority (Cardinali, 1852). 

There is a reasonable possibility that the 
French word originally meant " sail-cloth " 
or "canvas," which appears to be also the 
meaning of English tewke, tuke, or that it 
may have given its name to such a material. 
Either process would be quite normal. If 
there is anything in this guess, the original 
would probably be German Tuch, though the 
change of gender would be curious (influence 
of toile ?). The form teu is perhaps a mis- 
take, as the quotation which Jal gives for 
it contains two other gross blunders. 

EBNEST WEEKLEY. 

' The Draper's Dictionary,' 1882, gives this 
brief extract from the Lansdowne MS. Brit. 
Mus. date 1592 : " Tukes, or Tuks. Being 
a kind of Buckrom, poize 8 Ibs., valued 
8s. Od." The etymology is not mentioned. 

TOM JONES. 

"TEBTIUM QUID" (11 S. iii. 67). In B. 
Martin's ' New English Dictionary,' London, 
1749, the term tertium quid occurs. It is 
there defined, when used in chemistry, as 
signifying " the result of the mixture of some 
two things, which forms a body very different 
from each, when considered separately." No 
illustrative quotations are given in the 
* Dictionary.' The use, however, of tertium 
quid in 1749 is three-quarters of a century 
earlier than any of SIB JAMES MUBBAY'S 
citations. W. SCOTT. 

[MR. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL also thanked for 
reply. 1 

" VAIL " : ITS USE BY SCOTT (US. iii. 86). 
In the set of the novels, now in our 
possession, which contain Scott's latest 
corrections in his own hand, " vail " is so 
printed in ' The Talisman,' chap. xxiv. In 
the song of ' The Bloody Vest,' however, it is 
printed " veil," although a correction of 
another word appears in the same line. 

A. & C. BLACK. 

Soho Square, W. 

HUNGARIAN BIBLIOGBAPHY (11 S. iii. 89). 
I see MB. SHBUBSOLE is asking for "a 
book on Hungarian Gipsies by Walter 
Crane." I can only say that I know of no 
such book. I give, however, some account 
of a visit to Hungary in my book ' An Artist's 
Reminiscences ' (Methuen, 1907). 

WALTEB CBANE. 



" Hie LOCUS ODIT, AMAT," &c. (11 S. iii. 
66). There is another version of the Spittle 
inscription, which is in ' Itinerarium 
Curiosum,' by William Stukeley, M.D., 
&c., 1724, p. 89 : 

Hsec domus dat, amat, punit, conservat, honorat, 
Equitiam, pacera, crimina, jura, bonos. 1620. 

It would appear to be improbable that this 
version existed even at Spittle-in-the- 
Street. 

" ^Equitia " alias " Equitia " appears to 
be a cross between " ^Equitas " and 
" Nequitia." 

The version given by Stukeley is also in 
Camden's ' Britannia,' enlarged by Richard 
Gough, 2nd ed., 1806, vol. ii. p. 376. 

ROBEBT PlEBPOINT. 

The epigram "Hie locus odit, amat," 
&c., occurs also at the Court House, Much 
Wenlock, co. Salop. ALAN STEWABT. 

PYBBHUS'S TOE (US. iii. 89). The best 
annotated edition of Sir Thomas Browne's 
* Hydriotaphia,' that by the late Dr. Green- 
hill, refers to Pliny, ' Hist. Nat.,' vii. 2 
[20], where we are told that Pyrrhus cured 
people suffering from disorders of the spleen 
by touching them with the great toe of his 
right foot, and that when his body was cre- 
mated this toe remained unburnt. Plutarch 
gives the same story in his life of Pyrrhus, 
chap. iii. 

As for books of reference, the story is 
to be found, as might be expected, in the 
miscellaneous compilations of Alexander ab 
Alexandro (' Genialee Dies,' lib. iv. cap. 
xxvi.) and Philip Camerarius (' Horse Sub- 
cisivse,' Centuria III. cap. xlii.). 

Greenwood quotes some lines from one of 
Sir T. Browne's commonplace books, printed 
by Wilkin in hised. of Browne's 'Works,' iv. 
377, headed " One in the gout wishing for 
King Pyrrhus's toe, which could not be burnt 
at his funeral pyre," and beginning, 

O for a toe, such as the funeral pyre 
Could make no work on proof 'gainst flame and 
fire. 

EDWABD BENSLY. 

Sir Thomas North in his famous translation 
of Plutarch's ' Lives ' has : 

" They say also that the great toe of his right 
foot had some secret vertue in it. For when he 
was dead, and that they had burnt all parts of 
his body, and consumed it to ashes : his great 
toe was whole, and had no hurt at all." 

A. R. BAYLEY. 

[The REV. W. D. MA CRAY also refers to Green- 
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THOMAS JAMES THACKERAY (11 S. iii. 28). 
This is evidently the person referred to 
in " Great Writers " (' Life of Thackeray,' 
p. 202, foot-note). He is believed to have 
been a member of the Thackeray family, 
and possibly belonged to Yorkshire. In Alli- 
bone's ' Dictionary ' T. J. Thackeray is said 
to have been a captain in the Army, and to 
have written 'Lectures on Rifle Firing,' 1853 
(3rd ed., 1858), and ' Military, Organization 
and Administration of France,' 1856. 

w. s. s. 

THACKERAY AND THE STAGE (US. iii. 28, 
91). The farce of ' Jeames,' about which 
S. J. A. F. inquires, was produced at the 
Princess's Theatre in December, 1845. 

WM. DOUGLAS. 

125, Helix Road, Brixton Hill, S.W. 

'THE FLYING DUTCHMAN' (US. iii. 48, 
95). Doubtless the above poem was written 
by Ellen Mary Clerke, sister of Agnes Mary 
Clerke, the well-known writer on astronomy 
who died at 68, Redcliffe Square, in January, 
1907. 

They were born at Skibbereen in county 
Cork, and the elder sister (the poetess) died 
only ten months before Agnes, as may be seen 
in Lady Huggins's * Appreciation ' reviewed 
in The Athenceum of 7 September, 1907. 

I met the two sisters 40 years ago at Naples, 
and renewed my acquaintance with the sur- 
viving sister Agnes in March, 1906, only a 
few months before her regretted death. 
She presented me with a copy of her sister 
Ellen's book on Italian folk-lore, &c., dedi- 
cated to Dr. Garnett of the British Museum. 

I alluded to the Clerkes in my Teply on 
k Inscriptions at Naples ' printed at 10 S. ix. 
17. WILLIAM MERCER. 

' DEATH OF CAPT. COOK ' (11 S. iii. 87). 
Darley, a native of Birmingham, was a 
bass singer of repute at Covent Garden 
Theatre and Vauxhall Gardens. He was 
the original Farmer Blackberry in O'Keeffe's 
musical farce of ' The Farmer.' Visiting 
America about 1799, he established an inferior 
kind of Vauxhall at Philadelphia, but re- 
turned to this country, where he died in 1809. 

Blurton, Cranfield, and Miss Francis were 
performers of the humblest class. 

WM. DOUGLAS. 

If R. H. will send me his address, I may 
be able to give him some information about 
two of the members of the cast. 

H. S. GUINNESS. 

Stillorgan, co. Dublin. 



* The Death of Capt. Cook,' performed 
at Covent Garden in 1789, was produced on 
the Edinburgh stage on 23 February, 1790. 
By Dibdin ( ' Annals of the Edinburgh Stage ' > 
it is called a "grand serious pantomime,' r 
and he adds that "the scenery seems to 
have been unusually good." Williamson 
took the part of Capt. Cook in the Edin- 
burgh cast, but the names of the other 
players are not mentioned. Row TAY. 

MONTAGU G. DRAKE (US. iii. 29, 72). 
Montague Garrard Drake, Esq., of Sharde- 
loes, co. Buckingham, M.P. for Agmondes- 
ham in 1713, 1715, and 1727, and for the 
county of Buckingham in 1722, was son of 
Montague Drake and Jane, dau. and heiress 
of Sir John Garrard, Bt., of Lamer. He 
died 1728. See Burke's * Landed Gentry/ 
4th ed. R. J. FYNMORE. 

GATAKER (U.S. ii. 409). No person of 
this name seems to have graduated in 
Dublin University at the close of the eigh- 
teenth century. The name does not appear 
in the catalogue of graduates of the Uni- 
versity from 1591 to 1868. The nearest 
approach to the name which I can find in the 
catalogue is Gattager, William, B.A. Vern. 
1809. P. A. MCELWAINE. 

PRICKLY PEAR AND MONREALE CATHE- 
DRAL (11 S. iii. 87). MR. LANGTON will find 
this question discussed in Yule-Burnell's 
' Hobson-Jobson,' 2nd ed., 1903, p. 732 ; and 
at 8 S. viii. 254. Another contributor 
(9 S. iii. 469) quotes a statement of E. A. 
Freeman, the historian, who identified the 
plant in the mosaics (Dean Stephens, * Life 
and Letters of Freeman,' vol. ii. p. 361). 

EMERITUS. 

In Prof. J. B. Bury's ' History of Greece r 
(published 1902), p. 21, there is figured a 
fragment of a richly decorated silver vessel 
found at Mycenae. On it is the representa- 
tion of a siege scene, in which the most 
conspicuous vegetation is a plant bearing a 
striking resemblance to the prickly pear. 
It has large, and apparently fleshy, leaves 
similar in shape to the prickly pear, sparsely 
covered with spines. Whatever the plant 
may be, it is very probably identical with 
that which MR. LANGTON saw depicted in the 
Biblical scenes in Monreale Cathedral. Per- 
haps some botanical reader familiar with the 
vegetation of lands bordering on the Mediter- 
ranean can tell us what it is. 

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MB. LANGTON'S query may be explained 
plausibly by knowledge of the fact that 
what in English we call " prickly pears " 
are known in Italy as " prickly figs." They 
abound in the island of Capri, and often, on 
the voyage of 20 miles separating Capri from 
Naples, have I seen the Neapolitan sailors 
steep them in buckets of sea-water, and 
cautiously draw them out, to extract the 
thorns with a clasp knife, when the fig is 
cooling and refreshing. 

WILLIAM MERCER. 

JOHN DE COSINGTON (11 S. iii. 67). 
In a reply s.v. Guichard d' Angle (ante, 
p. 73) I referred twice, incidentally, to 
Stephen de Cosinton. His name appears 
three times (possibly oftener) in the book to 
which I there referred, viz., ' Le Prince Noir 
Poeme du Heraut d'armes Chandos,' Lon- 
don & Paris, 1883 : 

Apres furent li mareschaulx, 
Qui furent prodhomme et loiaulx. 
L'uns fut Stephen de Cosinton, 
Qui moult estoit noble person ; 
Et 1'autre le bon Guychard d'Angle. 

Line 2279. 

Sur la main destre fut Chaundos, 
Qui celi jour acquist grant los ; 
Estephenes de Cossyngtone, 
Johan Devereux, noble persone ; 
Et 1 fut li bon Guychard d'Angle. 

Line 3229. 

Monsieur Gwichard d'Angle fut mareschal, 
Et Estephen de Cosinton, qui ot coer loial. 

Line 4193. 

As to these three extracts see my reply, 
ante, p. 73. Without correction, according 
to "Errata" the last two references are 
3259, 4223. 

Concerning the first extract there is an 
editorial note (p. 357) in the book referred 
to : 

" Stephen de Cosington we find first mentioned 
in the retinue of Henry, Earl of Derby, afterwards 
Duke of Lancaster, in the expedition of 1345. 
In 1349, he was appointed with Richard Talbot 
and John de Carleton to renew the oath of fealty 
in the towns of Flanders. In 1351, he was again 
appointed with Sir Frank van Hale, knight of the 
Garter, to treat with Louis, count of Flanders. 
In 1355, letters of protection were granted him, 
then in the retinue of the Prince of Wales. Letters 
of safe-conduct are again addressed to him, 
in paries transmarinas profecturits, dated the 
16th April, 1364, and again on his going into 
Gascony, the 26th of June, in the same year. 
He appears to have been at Cre"cy, Poitiers and 
N&jera." 

I think that M. DE LATJRME is in error in 
saying that the village of Cosington is in 
Lincolnshire. There is, or was, no village 



of that name in Lincolnshire, according to 
J. Adams's ' Index Villaris,' 1680 ; Stephen 
Whatley's ' England's Gazetteer,' 1751 ; 
or Samuel Lewis's * Topographical Dic- 
tionary of England,' 1835. 

In Leicestershire there are, or were, 
Cossington, 2| miles S.E. by E. from 
Mountsorrel, and Coston, 7 miles N.E. by E. 
from Melton Mowbray. 

Also there is, or was, a Cossington or Cos- 
ton in Somerset, 4J miles N.E. by E. from 
Bridgwater, as well as Coston in Norfolk, 
4 miles N.W. from Wymondham ; also 
Cossenton in Kent, N.W. from Maidstone ; 
also Coston in Salop. 

William Berry in his ' Encyclopaedia 
Heraldica ' (no date, circa 1830), vol. ii., con- 
cerning armorial bearings of families, gives 
Cossington, Az., a rose or ; Cosington 
(Hampshire), Az., three roses or. 

ROBERT PIERPOINT. 

Cossington is a local name both in Leices- 
tershire and Somerset, but I do not remember 
hearing of it in Lincolnshire. 

ST. SWITHIN. 

There is a manor of Cosington in Kent. 
Hasted (vol. iv. p. 434) says it gave both 
residence and surname to the family of 
Cosenton or Cosington. There was a John 
de Cosington, 5 Edw. II., of this family. 
R. J. FYNMORE. 

A family of this name was of some 
standing in Kent during the thirteenth and 
fourteenth centuries. Among them were John, 
John his son, and Sir Stephen de Cosington, 
all living in 1345. There were also Costin- 
tons in Notts. OLD SARUM. 

GUICHARD D'ANGLE (11 S. ii. 427, 472, 493 ; 
iii. 73). In the first reply on p. 472 Guichard 
is styled " d'Angle or d'Angolesme." It 
was long supposed that his name was derived 
from Angouleme, but Beltz, who investigated 
the family history, found that it was really 
derived from Angle, a small town near 
Charenton in Poitou. Guillaume d'Angle, 
great-grandfather of Guichard, was seigneur 
of Angle in 1220 (' Memorials of the Order of 
the Garter,' p. 182). 

Although Guichard died without surviving 
male issue, he was not the last male of the 
family, as he had a nephew, William d'Angle, 
to whom he left the lands which he had 
acquired or might acquire in France, and all 
his lands in England (ibid., p. 187). 

G. H. WHITE. 

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BENJAMIN D'!SRAELI OF DUBLIN (11 S. 
iii. 28). The following extract from a list 
of the corps of yeomanry known as the 
Stephen's Green Cavalry, published, in 
Cox's Irish Magazine for November, 1814, 
may be of some use to J. T. : 

" Ben. Disrael, a Jew, a Lottery-monger, who 
made a fortune at the same period, that any man 
who could muster a quire of paper and an ink- 
horn, might become a Lottery-office keeper or a 
Gambling-house proprietor under that cover. 
He was cotemporary with Lefevre, the livery 
servant, Cash, the parish schoolmaster, Andrews, 
the primer merchant, Burton, the quill man, 
Williams, the stationer, who hanged himself, 
and M'llwrath, the bootboy, who all made fortunes 
by the same species of gambling. Ben turned 
Christian, was made a Justice of the Peace for 
the County of Carlow, and died about four months 
since." 

SEAMUS UA CASAIDE. 

Dublin. 

Benjamin Disraeli (not Disraeli) of Beachy 
Park, Carlow, was a rich moneylender and 
notary of Dublin (1788-96). He was also a 
prominent member of the Dublin Stock 
Exchange, held the office of Sheriff for 
County Carlow in 1810, and died in 1814. 
He was probably a member of a Huguenot 
family named Disraeli, resident in London 
during the eighteenth century, which was 
related to the Lefevres, Chaigneaus, and Col- 
villes, and therefore in no way connected 
with Lord Beaconsfield. 

ISRAEL SOLOMONS. 

118, Sutherland Avenue, W. 

There are some municipal lottery tickets 
in the Science and Art Museum, Dublin, 
which appear to be signed by this gentleman. 

H. G. ARCHER. 

See 5 S. vi. 47 ; 7 S. iii., iv., v. Apparently 
the conclusion arrived at in 1887 (7 S. iii. 371) 
was that " the Dublin notary bearing these 
names cannot at present be affiliated to Lord 
Beaconsfield' s family." By his will, proved 
3 October, 1814, he left 7,000?. to charitable 
purposes. R. J. FYNMORE. 

Sand gate. 

" CORBIE - STEPS " : " CORBEL - STEPS " : 
" CORBALSAILYE " (11 S. ii. 426). Jamie- 
son's ' Diet.' (Donaldson, 1887) has : 

" Corbalsailye, s. prob. parapets or other pro- 
jections corbelled out beyond the face of a fortified 
wall. V. Saillie. 

' Licentiam edificandi castra, turres et for- 
tahcia cum januis ferreis, le battelling, corbal- 
sailye, barmkynnis et carceribus' (' Retr. Mas 
Sig., 1424-1513,' No. 1639). 

" Fr. corbeille, a corbel, andsaitfte, a projection ; 
like sa^ll^e de maison, an outjutting room 
(Cotgrave). 



Jamieson also has : 

" Saillie, Sailye, S filly, s. A projection ; out- 
jutting ; applied to a room, gallery, or other 
building projecting beyond the face of a house 
or wall. The saillie or sailye was a device to 
enlarge the rooms of hoxises built in the narrow 
streets and lanes of olden times ; specimens of 
which may still be seen in many of our large 
towns. It was adopted also as a means of defence 
in fortified castles, city walls, &c. ; and gave a 
massive, frowning appearance to the battlements. 
When so used, it was called a c.orbalsailye, O. Fr. 
saillie, a projection ; ' an eminence, jutting or 
bearing out beyond others,' Cotgrave. Fr. 
saillir, to go out, issue forth, project." 

TOM JONES. 

Where the edges of a gable-end, as in 
some Dutch-built houses, are not mere 
slanting right lines, but ascend by degrees 
to the apex, having the appearance of 
flights of steps in silhouette, the birds often 
perch upon them, and this was the explana- 
tion offered me of the term " corbie-steps " 
when I first heard it used in Scotland 
(Fr. corbeau ; O.F. corbel ; Lat. corvellus, 
dim. of corvus, a raven). 

I wonder whether, for an analogous 
reason, each separate upstanding block of a 
crenellated parapet is termed a " merlon " 
(merle = blackbird ) . 

The ' E.tXD.,' I see, has " crow-bawks," 
the projections of a gable-roof ; " crow- 
steps," see " crow's rest," a brick projecting 
from a chimney and cut to a slightly tapering 
cylinder. ETHEL LEGA-WEEKES. 

SWEETAPPLE SURNAME (11 S. iii. 66). 
Anne, eldest dau. of John Baddeley of Eller- 
ton Grange, co. Stafford, married " Mr. John 
Sweetaple," c. 1671, probably of London, 
where the lady had three uncles living, one 
of them an officer in the Regiment of Guards. 
They had several children surviving in 1713. 
ST. CLAIR BADDELEY. 

ANNE BOLEYN OR BTJLLEN : BULLEY 
FAMILY (11 S. iii. 8). The following 
excerpt from a ' Pedigree of the Bullen 
Family,' made by the late Rev. W. Croft? 
Bullen, and printed for private circulation, 
may be of interest to H. A. B. : 

" The first of the family came to England with 
William the Conqueror, and was known as ' De 
Boullan ' ; in a short time the ' De ' was dropped, 
and we find the name spelt ' Boulen,' and a 
little later ' Boleyn ' ; it was written on the wall 
of the Tower of London and spelt ' Bullien,' 
and is supposed to be so written about the time 
of Anna Bullen's death. In the year 1591 we find 
it spelt ' Bollen,' and in 1602 we find it spelt as 
at present ' Bullen ' (see Milla's ' Catalogue of 
Honor,' article on Boleyn), which is the same name 
as the original 'Boleyn 'of Henry VIII.'s reign, as 
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r>f the family being described in Shakespeare's 
play of ' Henry VIII.,' Act III. sc. ii. (Steven- 
son's edition, published 1803) ' I'll no Anne 
Bullens for him ' ; also in Lord Macaulay's 
History of England ' it is spelt Bullen." 

For the use of this pamphlet I am in- 
debted to my brother-in-law Mr. T. F. Bullen 
of Liverpool, a son of its compiler. The 
reverend gentleman claimed that he could 
trace his descent from the Earl of Wiltshire, 
father of the ill-fated Queen. In the pro- 
gramme of ' King Henry VIII.,' now playing 
at His Majesty's Theatre, the name is spelt 
Bullen. 

As the ' Patronymica Britannica ' regards 
the surname Boleyn as derived from the 
place-name Boulogne rather than from that 
of Bolein, Normandy (see 7 S. ii. 457), the 
form De Boullan is easily accounted for ; 
while in Stow's 'Annals' (1631) the ortho- 
graphy is " Boloigne "(IS. viii. 510). 

It has been suggested that Godefroi de 
Bouillon, son of Eustace II. Count of 
Boulogne and leader of the First Crusade, 
was a connexion of this family ; but on 
investigation I find this idea to be erroneous, 
inasmuch as the etymologies of " Bouillon " 
and " Boulogne " are distinct. The ety- 
mology of the former can be arrived at by 
examining that of the place-name Bouillon- 
ville (Meurthe), Which in 857 was called in 
mediaeval Latin. Baldofo villa, i.e., " the estate 
of Baudulf " (Bold Wolf) ; hence Bouillon is 
derived from Baudoin or Baldwin (Brave 
Friend),* which in turn is from the Teutonic 
band or bald, daring, courageous ; see ' Dic- 
tionnaire des Noms Frangais,' by L. Larchey, 
Paris, 1880. Moreover, the estate of 
Bouillon is situated in the eastern part of 
Brabant. On the other hand, Canon 
Taylor considered Boulogne (Bononia) a 
variant of Bolognia, derived from a Celtic 
word bona, which signified " town," as in the 
place-names Bonn, Ratisbon, Vindobona 
(Vienna), and Juliobona, later Illebona 
{Lillebonne, the article having been prefixed). 

As to the orthography of the surname of 
the physician and writer William Bulleyn 
of Elizabeth's reign, the ' D.N.B.' spalls it 
Bullein, and states that his medical work the 
' Bulwarke of Defence ' was dedicated to 
Henry Carey, Lord Hunsdon, a kinsman of 
Queen Anne Boleyn ; so that he was in all 
probability a member of the Bullen gens, 
though this notion is scouted at 3 S. iv. 164. 
What appears to have misled philologists in 
regard to the origin of the surname is the 



* This derivation of the name seems preferable 
to that given by Miss Yonge in 'English Christian 
Names,' viz., "Prince Friend." 



fact that the Bullen arms are Argent, a 
chevron gules between three bulls' heads 
couped sable (see Appendix I. to ' The 
Grammar of Heraldry,' by Samuel Kent, 
London, 1716). This naturally gave rise 
to the assumption that the founder of the 
family was in early days called Bull. 

N. W. HILL. 

WATSON FAMILY AT MILNHORN AND 
BLACKLAW (11 S. ii. 527). As far as I can 
learn, there is in Scotland only one Milnhorn 
or Millhorn (in present-day spelling) a 
farm of that name being in the Perthshire 
district of Coupar-Angus. Blacklaw, how- 
ever, is a much more common name. There 
are Blacklaws in Banffshire, Forfarshire, 
Perthshire, Ayrshire, Lanarkshire, and 
Dumfriesshire. Blacklaw tower in the last- 
named county was formerly the property 
of the Douglases of Fingland. The Lanark- 
shire Blacklaw is notable as having been the 
residence of the famous Jenny Cameron, one 
of the heroines of the '45 rebellion. 

None of these Blacklaws, so far as I know, 
connects itself with the family of Watson. 
If, however, as seems possible, Millhorn was 
once their home, they may have migrated 
from it to some adjacent Blacklaw. On the 
whole, therefore, I am inclined to consider 
the Forfarshire Blacklaw, in the parish of 
Kinnell, to be the place inquired after. 
During the eighteenth century there were 
many Watsons in Forfarshire. Prof. David 
Watson, the translator of Horace, was a 
native of Brechin. There were other 
Watsons, possessing a voting qualification in 
the county, towards the end of the century. 
Blacklaw in Kinnell was not too remote from 
Millhorn in Coupar-Angus. W. SCOTT. 

There is a Blacklaw in Bendochy parish, 
East Perth, five miles N.N.E. of Cupar- 
Angus ; and also a village thus named in the 
parish of Linton, N.E. Roxburgh, four miles 
south-east of Kelso. 

J. HOLDEN MACMlOHAEL. 

Blacklaw is the name of a village close to 
Aberchirder in Banffshire. N. W. HILL. 

BATTLE IN LINCOLNSHIRE, 1655 (US. ii. 
468). The note on the Ordnance Survey 
map about a battle in Lincolnshire in 1655 is 
in all likelihood a mistake. There were no 
disturbances in Lincolnshire in 1655, so far 
as ordinary histories record ; neither is there 
mention made at any time of a battle of 
Red Hill. May not 1655 be a misprint for 
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gained two victories in Lincolnshire. One 
of these, within about two miles of Grantham, 
forms the subject of the first of Cromwell's 
letters to appear in the newspapers. He 
chased the enemy for two or three miles, but 
no mention is made of a hill in the conflict. 
The other engagement, within two miles of 
Gainsborough, was fought on a hill, and one 
of the fields is said still to bear the name of 
" Redcoats Field." May not the latter, 
wrongly placed on the map, be the Red hill 
where the battle took place ? W SCOTT. 

There was a battle at Grantham during 
the Civil War, but the year was 1643, and 
not 1655. It was Cromwell's first victory, 
and was fought on 13 May, 1643. Informa- 
tion respecting it will be found in Carlyle's 
' Cromwell,' letter No. 5 ; Kingston's ' East 
Anglia and the Civil War,' p. 112 ; Gardiner's 
' History of the Civil War ' ; and Horton's 
' Life of Cromwell,' p. 28, and other Lives. 

In 1655 Cromwell was Lord Protector, and 
though there were Royalist risings in that 
year, I fail to find any trace of another 
action at Grantham. Possibly the date on 
the ordnance map may not be correct. 

G. H. W. 

" GOULANDS " IN BEN JONSON (11 S. ii. 
429, 532). I am afraid the Provencal gauch 
will not help us at all. There is no difficulty 
in accounting for the ow. As the ' N.E.D.' 
shows, the original form was gollan, whence 
goulan and gouland. Gowan resulted from 
the loss of I in goulan or gowlan ; this I is 
easily lost in Scottish, which has /a' for 
fall, and the like. I point out, in my ' Ety- 
mological Dictionary,' that the word is 
certainly Scandinavian, as so many Scotcl 
words are. I derive it from the Norse 
gul-r, yellow, Swed. gul, Dan. guul, Norw 
gul, gaul Observe the last of these forms 
But I have no objection to connecting it 
as the ' N.E.D.' suggests, with the word gold 
which is closely related to O.N. gul-r. The 
Norse for " gold " was gull, oldest forn 
goll, which io nothing but gold (or an older 
*golth) with the assimilation of Id (or Ith) 
into II. Hence was formed the adj. gullin 
golden, which is, practically, all we want 
The change from gullin to gollan raises no 
great difficulty. Gowan is parallel to the 
English golden, with ow for oil, and oil for 
old. That this is the easiest and most 
likely solution will appear to any one who 
will take the trouble to investigate the large 
number of flower-names with which the 
Icol. gulr is associated. Swedish has gul- 
sippa, yellow wood-anemone ; gul-torne, 



urze or gor.se, lit. yellow thorn ; gull-pudra, 
golden saxifrage ; gull-regn, laburnum ? 
ull-ris, golden-rod ; gull-traf, evening- 
)rimrose ; gull-vifva, yellow primrose ; and 
here are plenty more in Norwegian and 
Danish. WALTER W. SKEAT. 

The suggestion that gowan is derived 
rom the same root as Scotch gowd, gold, 
ill, I believe, have to be given up. The 
E.D.D.' regards the word as sprung from 
rael. gugan, a bud, flower, daisy ; though 
Jamieson is inclined to suspect -this as merely 
,aken over from the Scotch vernacular. I 
ind, however, in Norman Macleod's ' Gaelic 
Dictionary ' the words gucag, a bell, bubble y 
drop ; sprout, bud, corolla of a flower ; and 
gucagach, bud-bearing, sprouting, clustered ; 
e in O'Reilly's ' Irish Dictionary ' occur 
gugan, bud ; gucog, sprout, bud, bell ; 
and gucogac, clustering, gowaned, which 
seems to justify the etymology advanced 
the ' E.D.D.,' the pronunciation of 
and g in Celtic being often very much 
alike. N. W. HILL. 

The children with me when we went " May 
blobbin " called the flowers " gowden gow- 
Lans," and when we made flowers into gar- 
lands these were " gowlans." On many a 
cottage " best room " there were " gowlans ". 
of birds' eggs hanging on the walls. Seldom 
was the word " garland " pronounced except 
" gowlan " that is, in the Derbyshire village 
where I was born. THOS. RATCLIFFE. 

AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (11 S. 
ii. 229). The words " Beatitudo non est 
divinorum cognitio, sed vita divina," about 
which L. S. M. inquires, are the heading of the 
second section from Porphyry's ' De Ab- 
stinentia Animalium,' given in Marsilius 
Ficinus's Latin translation on p. 296 of a 
volume printed at Geneva in 1607 that con- 
tains his version of lamblichus, ' De Mys- 
teriis,' his ' Excerpta ex Graecis Procli Com- 
mentariis in Alcibiadem Platonis primum,' 
&c. EDWARD BENSLY. 

LACY AS A PLACE-NAME (11 S. iii. 8). The 
suffix Lacy clearly has reference to a former 
owner, and may be compared with the 
suffix Lucy, found at Hampton-Lucy in 
Warwickshire. Hampton being a common 
place-name, this particular Hampton i& 
distinguished from other Hamptons by 
having the owner's name tacked to it. 

MR. SCHLOSSER will probably find that 
Polesden and Wilton were formerly part 
of the possessions of the Lacy family, though 
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therefore the reason for the suffix in this 
instance is not obvious. 

Walter de Laci, one of the companions of 
the Conqueror, had possessions in Worces- 
tershire. Roger de Laci, his son, owned 
five manors in Worcestershire, as recorded in 
Domesday Book. Ilbert and Roger de 
Laci both held land in capite in England. 
But in Worcestershire the Lacy manors are 
not differentiated, though in Herefordshire 
we still have Holm-, Stoke-, and Mansel-. 

One of the best examples of this kind of 
place-name is to be found in Warwickshire, 
not far from Hampton-Lucy, where there 
are two Wellesbournes Wellesbourne Hast- 
ings and Wellesbourne Mountford parted 
by a small stream, the Wellesbourne brook. 
After the Conquest Henry de Newburgh, 
Earl of Warwick, owned both places, and 
he or his successors gave the one to Robert 
le Hastings, and the other to Thurston de 
Mountford, and since that time the two 
Wellesbournes have been distinguished by 
the names of their Norman owners. 

W. S. BBASSINGTON. 

Stratford-upon-Avon. 

Most of the many names of places (if not 
all of them) including Lacy such as 
Stanton-Lacy, Holm-Lacy, Ewyas-Laci 
owe their peculiarity to former ownership 
(1) on the part of Walter de Laci (d. 1085) 
and Hugh his son, or (2) of their collaterals 
in Yorkshire ; and (3) of the respective 
descendants of both branches of this illus- 
trious Norman family. Their name was 
taken from Lasci, a fief of the Bishops of 
Bayeux (cf. Lib. Rubeus, p. 646, R.S.). 
ST. CLAIB BADDELEY. 

If the annals of the various places having 
Lacy as the second part of their name are 
looked into it will be found that the lords 
of the manors at some period belonged 
to some branch of the Lacy family. Thus 
Hutchins, the historian of Dorset, says of the 
manor of Kingston Lacy in that county that 
"' it takes its additional name from Lacy, 
Earl of Lincoln, once lord of it." 

This mode of identificatior is frequently 
employed in Devonshire, more than 40 
parishes being named on this principle. 
Thus we have Aveton Giffard, Compton 
Giffard, and Were Giffard ; Bere Ferrers anc 
Bere Alston ; Berry Narbert or Narbor and 
Berry Pomeroy ; Stoke Rivers, Stoke 
Fleming, Stoke Damarel and Sydenham 
Damarel ; Bovey Tracey and Newton 
Tracey ; Colaton Raleigh and Withycombe 
Raleigh, &c. THOS. WAINWBIGHT. 

Barristaple. 



The title of the query should have been 
' Lacy in a Place-Name " ; for Lacy is not 
a place-name at all, but the name of a 
amily. In double names of this character 
Vilton Lacy means that a place called 
/Vilton was distinguished from other Wiltons 
>y connexion with the family of Lacy or 
^acey. Nearly all such family names are 
Gorman. WALTER W. SKEAT. 

[MR. N. W. HILL, MB. TOM JONES, MB. HOLDEN 
VlAcMicHAEL, OLD SABUM, and ST. SWITHIN also 
hanked for replies.] 

OUNDLE (US. iii. 9). Speltf Undale in 

Birch, ' Cart. Saxon.,' i. 36, iii. 579, both 

imes in late copies of doubtful charters ; 

mt the spelling appears to be correct. The 

suffix seems to be the modern E. " dale." 

The prefix can hardly be English, and is more 

ikely Norse ; cf. Ouneby in ' Inquis. post 

Mortem,' vol. i. I guess Un- (or Oune-) 

:o represent Una, gen. of Uni, a. Norse name 

n Egilsson. If so. it means " Uni's dale." 

WALTEB W. SKEAT. 

The early form was Uridela. It occurs, as 
far back as anno 664, in a Peterborough 
harter (' Cart. Sax.,' 22). 

Mr. M'Clure, in his new book of * British 
Place-Names,' p. 23, suggests that it is 
" a worn form " of Avondael, situated near 
the confluence of the little river Avon with 
the Nene. EDWABD SMITH. 

Putney. 

Oundle appears originally to have been, 
according to Domesday Book, Undele, and 
over the door of the Grammar School House 
was formerly the following inscription : 

Uudellse natus, Londini parta labore 
Laxtonus posuit, senibus puerisq ; levaraen, 

which is thus rendered by Fuller : 
At Oundle born, what he did get 

In London with great pain, 
Laxton to old and young hath set, 

A comfort to remain. 

Sir William Laxton was the founder of the 
school. J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. 

[MB. TOM JONES, O., and MK. T. SHEI-HEBD also 
thanked for replies.] 

DBYDEN AS A PLACE-NAME (US. iii. 68). 
Dryden is a farm five miles south from 
Selkirk, on the main road between Edin- 
burgh and Carlisle. There is a dry dean, 
or small deep valley, on the farm, devoid 
of water, which probably accounts for the 
name, as in ancient times, when the district 
was all forest, and even at a somewhat later 
period when cattle-lifting went on exten- 
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English and Scottish border, this dry valley 
would be a useful place for hiding stock, 
besides being perhaps the most distinctive 
feature of the ground. 

The prefix also occurs in the district in 
such names as Dryloch, Dryhope, Dry- 
grange, Dryburgh, and Drycleuchlee ; but 
these names indicating a dry situation are 
few in number compared with the place- 
names in the South of Scotland indicative of 
mires and marshes, many of which have 
now disappeared by drainage operations. 

T. H. S. 
Edinburgh. 

The suggestion in the query that Dryden 
as a place-name was derived from the 
Drydanes who came across the border into 
Scotland is plausible, but not altogether con- 
vincing. As a family name, Dryden is by no 
means common in Scotland. As a place- 
name it is still more seldom to be met with. 
In 1868 there was a farm named Dryden in 
Roxburghshire, which has since been attached 
to Selkirkshire. Another farm of the same 
name was in Aberdeenshire. There was a 
Dryden House, unoccupied in 1868, and 
Dryden Mains, a farm at Roslin, evidently 
former possessions of the powerful family of 
Sinclair or St. Glair of Roslin. Drydenbank 
was nearer Edinburgh, and " Dryden' s 
groves of oak " are mentioned in Scott's 
ballad of ' Rosabelle.' 

Is it in the least probable that places so far 
apart should have derived their name from 
a somewhat obscure family settled in Scot- 
land in the fifteenth century ? Surely it is 
much more likely that Dryden is a local 
designation, signifying, as certain philologists 
affirm, " the dry valley." W. SCOTT. 

{MB. W. E. WILSOX also thanked for reply.] 

"STENCIL": ITS DERIVATION" (11 S. ii. 
302). This word is probably from the 
Provencal ustensilho, ustensiho, estansiho, 
gear, tools, tinware, the perforated metal 
strainer of a pump. The last form of the 
word, from which the e would drop on 
passing out of Southern France, was probably 
due to the influence of estam, tin. The 
dresser on which the tin cups and plates of a 
farmhouse were displayed was the estagnie. 
A stencil-plate, being usually cut from tin 
plate, would be an estansilho rather than 
ustensilho. I have no record of the word, 
but will search for it. To " stencil " is to 
print a design with such a utensil, instead of 
doing it by hand alone. 

The term must have come direct from the 
South of France, as estensil or estencil, for 



ustensil, soon lost its first s in French, 
Spanish, and Italian (though keeping it in 
Portuguese), passing to EnglLh without it. 
But, curiously enough, " utensil " has, in 
spoken English, acquired a substitute for the 
lost s. Just as the original Provenyal word 
was modified by the influence of estam, so in 
barrack-English (its Indian variety at least) 
" utensil " has, probably under the influence 
of " uniform," become " unitensil." Forty 
years ago in India I frequently heard this 
word in barracks. The quartermaster of my 
brigade always spoke of the cook-house 
" unitensils." ' EDWARD NICHOLSON. 

Paris. 

HIGH STEWARDS AT THE RESTORATION : 
ROGER GOLLOP, M.P. FOR SOUTHAMPTON 
(11 S. ii. 488 ; iii. 17). I have before me a 
copy of a list of the Parliaments from 1640 
to 1661, published 1661 by Robert Pawley, 
and "to be sold at his shop at the Bible in 
Chancery Lane." He gives (p. 65) as M.P.s 
for Southampton (borough) in 1659 " Thomas 
Knollys, Esq., and Roger Gallop [sic], Esq." 
Browne Willis ('Notitia Parliamentarian 
vol. iii. p. 293) gives the same names. 

ALFRED B. BEAVEN, 

QUEEN'S REGIMENT, SHEFFIELD PLATE 
DISH (11 S. iii. 70). "In Deo spero " is 
the motto of the De Saumarez family, but 
their crest is not a griffin. 

MATILDA POLLARD. 

Belle Vue, Bengeo. 



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The Bacchants of Euripides, and other Essays- 
By A. W. Verrall, Litt.D. (Cambridge Uni- 
versity Press. ) 

CLASSICAL scholars from the circumstances of their 
training ought to write better than the average 
man. This advantage in style is, however, not 
so common as might be expected, though one or 
two of our foremost scholars present their results 
with a charm and grace of language which should 
be obvious to readers. Dr. Verrall is one of this 
select body of specialists whom weiwould choose to 
read for mere pleasure. His work is always 
admirably lucid, irradiated with a fine sense of 
humour and character, and, in a word, eminently 
persuasive. 

To the present writer his Euripidean studies 
are more than brilliant theory, but, even if they 
were not, they would be delightful. In the essay 
on ' The Bacchants ' he approaches that fine and 
curious play from the point of view of Prof. 
Norwood, who has published a book on ' The 
Kiddle of the Bacchse.' The summary of the 
religion Euripides described in the play and 
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find some useful comment on the colouring which 
Prof. Gilbert Murray has skilfully attached to his 
verse rendering. 

The next article, ' The First Homer,' is re- 
printed from The Quarterly with modifications, 
and will be found an excellent brief view of a 
puzzling question. ' The Mutiny of Idomeneus ' 
is another Homeric study. Of the remaining 
articles the most striking are ' Rhyme and Reason 
in Attic Tragedy ' and ' Christ before Herod,' a 
study of the story as given by St. Luke, suggesting 
" that the case against the narrative is itself 
entirely mistaken, and rests, so far as it has any 
basis at all, upon a traditional misapprehension and 
misinterpretation of the statement impeached." 

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can make as strong a case for traditional views 
as he does as an innovator. The ' Rhyme and 
Reason in Attic Tragedy ' is a most ingenious 
inquiry, and, so far as we know, entirely novel. 
There is, it is contended, some purpose in such 
rhymes as xP &v and de&v, or such assonances as 
the use of verbs with similar endings. In such 
a composer as Euripides this phenomenon is 
deliberate, purposely uncouth, for rhyme and 
assonance in Greek are grotesque, and so abund- 
antly used by Aristophanes. Medea, " dis- 
tinguished in this (I think) from all other speakers 
in tragedy, thrice closes a speech upon a couplet 
with double assonance " ; and this fact alone 
would show that the assonance was intentional, 
and meant to represent, not the harmony of 
English linked sweetness, but a scream. So 
at the opening of the ' Philoctetes ' Sophocles 
is said to be suggesting the horrid noise of the 
agonized hero by dry/nous at the end of one line, 
and 8v<r<jrr]fJilais in the next. This theory, of course, 
supposes a very high standard of artistry in the 
tragedians, but no one who has studied them 
with thoroughness will be inclined to deny this 
meticulous perfection to Sophocles, at any rate. 

IN The National Revieiv ' Episodes of the 
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Parliament Bill is only fit for Bedlam." ' Kund- 
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monthly account of ' American Affairs ' intimates 
that Mr. Taft means to stand again for the 
Presidency. ' Two Solutions of the Greek 
Question,' by Mr. A. D. Godley, is the sort of 
paper we are glad to see in the magazines, and 
we congratulate The National on giving its readers 
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sociology. Mr. H. B. Marriott Watson has in 
his short paper on ' The Native English Drama ' 
an interesting comparison between ' Twelfth 
Night ' and Mr. Hardy's fine novel ' The Return 
of the Native,' in which he contends that the 
later master follows the Elizabethan model of 
arrangement, and asks if it could not be revived 
to-day. The odd title ' Dabchirr v. Tiem ' 



covers the account of a dispute concerning a horse 
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common snug." Mr. Folair's expression was, 
we believe, " pernicious snug." The article is 
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like to read more of the kind devoted to regions 
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MR. W. L. RUTTON, F.S.A. As a correspondent 
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of London topography has sustained by his death. 
The correspondence began some seventeen or 
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about to read before the Society of Antiquaries, 
and which has since been published in the Archceo- 
'.ogia, he seemed as hale and vigorous as an 
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was dated less than three weeks before his death, 
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Westminster for The Home Counties Magazine, 
in which some of his best work is contained, and 
had ventured on a visit to the British Museum, 
from which he had suffered no hurt save a 
temporary obstruction in breathing which he was 
getting over. His death from cardiac asthma on 
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Mr. Rutton made no pretensions to being a man 
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CONTENTS.-No. 61. 

NOTES : Lomonossov, 141 Bishopsgate Street Without, 
142 Gray's 'Elegy': Translations and Parodies, 144 
Prince of Wales as Churchwarden Keats, Hampstead, 
and Sir C. W. Dilke, 145 "Scavenger" " Fenelons " 
'N.E.D.': Missing Words Marriage on 30 February- 
Hertfordshire Monumental Inscriptions Mrs. Booth, 
Actress, 146. 

QUERIES : Arnolfini Family" George Inn " at Woburn 
" Pro patria est dura ludere videraur "Rev. Stephen 
Radcliff e -Authors Wanted' Saturday Review ' and 
Saxons Bishop of Durham and Curate Thirty-Nine 
Articles, 147 Sir Andrew Judd Litany : Spitting and 
Stamping the Feet Rev. Edward Young Nurmington 
Church Dedication Pewter Church Flagon Napoleon 
and Elizabeth Poulyne Thomas Morres Jones' Les 
Arrivants ' " Owns " : " Blithering." 148" Teapoy" 
Albertus a Lasco Gratious Street=Gracechurch Street 
Crevequer Wortley-Montagu Queen's College, Oxford 
Absinthe-drinking Ear-Piercing, 149. 

REPLIES : Vanishing London, 149 Mansel Family, 151 
Lamb, Burton, and Spiera George I.'s Statues 
Gamnecourt, 152 " God moves in a mysterious way" 
Dickens: " Shallabalah " " The Old Mogul," Drury 
Lane Oundle Thread Papers, 153 Lady O'Looney's 
Epitaph Mother's Maiden Name as Children's Surname 
Geoffrey Pole, 154 "Tewke," "Tuke" "Let us go 
hence, my songs "Moving Pictures and Cinematographs, 
155 Epigram in Schopenhauer Church with Wooden 
Bell-TurretCourt Life, 156 Scarborough Spa Marine 
Insurance, 157 The Black Prince's Language Great 
Snow in 1614 Sir Charles Chalmers, Bt., 158. 

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Jiofcs. 

LOMONOSSOV, 
A GREAT RUSSIAN^PIONEER. 

IN view of the approaching celebrations of 
the birth of Michael Vasilievitch Lomo- 
nossov (1711-65), organized by the Imperial 
Russian Academy of Sciences and other 
bodies, some notes on this eminent man of 
letters and science may prove of interest. 
Lomonossov is a master and creator in the 
literary language dating from the refoims 
of Peter the Great, and the sway of Church 
Slavonic had in his time already receded. 

Michael Lomonossov was born at the 
village of Dennisovka, near Kholmogory, 
Archangel government, the son of the 
fisherman Vassili Dorofeievitch. Khol- 
mogory at that period possessed the im- 
portance later acquired by Archangel. There 
are local monuments of the future gram- 
marian, including the stone church he 
.attended with its ikons and vessels, and 



graves in the cemetery with names of con- 
temporaries and relatives. The arrange- 
ment of a Lomonossov Museum and the 
foundation of a special school, among other 
suggestions, have engaged the attention of 
the goverrtor and municipal authorities of 
Archangel. 

Young Michael shared with his father the 
perils of the White Sea fishery, but early 
showed great liking for reading ; and it is 
said that Dudin, the leading magnate of 
Kurostrov, had a rich library to which 
Michael had access. His mother, daughter 
of a priest, encouraged him, but later a hard 
step-mother as well as his father reproached 
Michael for wasting time over books. 
Finally he started on foot for Moscow, 
carrying Simeon Polotzky's psalter, Meletii 
Smotritsky's Slavonic grammar, and the 
arithmetic of L. P. Magnitzky. In 1731 
Michael entered the Slaviano-Greco-Latin 
Academy. Vassili Dorofeievitch lived ten 
years after his son left, heard of his success, 
and was drowned in the White Sea. Michael 
wrote to his family with regard to the 
recovery and burial of the body. At the 
Academy the younger pupils derided this 
" duffer of twenty years " who had come 
to learn Latin, but he surpassed them all, 
and in 1736, after a period at Kiev, he was 
sent abroad with other students by the 
Imperial Academy of St. Petersburg to 
work at science. Both Henckel of Freiberg 
and Christian Wolff of Marburg spoke well 
of Lomonossov's progress in physical sciences. 
Unfortunately, his career was not only 
marked by diligence, since he contracted 
debts, wandered about, and was seized by a 
Prussian recruiting party near Diisseldorf, 
and taken to the fortress of Wesel to serve, 
but escaped. 

Returning to Russia, Lomonossov did not 
readily find recognition of his talents, and 
when he was appointed adjunct to the 
Imperial Academy the German party were 
predominant. In 1746 he became Pro- 
fessor, and found friends in Counts Orlov 
and Vorontsov, his special Maecenas being 
Count Shuvalov. Lomonossov sought to 
effect reforms in the University and the 
Academy, and Prof. A. Bruckner says of his 
abilities that " he stood in place of an 
academy and a university, technical in- 
stitutes, and chemical laboratories." He 
did not hide his light under a bushel, and 
claimed with justice that he had conferred 
honour on his country through his work. 
The Government and the University sent 
manuscripts for him to examine as censor 
and corrector, and more stress is laid by 



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Polevoi and other writers on Lomonossov as 
a man of letters than as a scientific worker. 
He well understood the limits of science and 
literature, for, in his own words, 
" the mathematician is not reasonable who thinks 
he can measure the will of God with a pair of 
compasses, nor is the instructor of divinity if he 
supposes he can teach astronomy or chemistry 
out of the Psalter." 

The search for the North Pole and the North- 
West Passage engaged Lomonossov' s atten- 
tion. 

Born with the old Novgorod dialect, 
Lomonossov became familiar with other 
forms of Russian through residence at 
Moscow and Kiev, and mastered the com- 
plicated grammar of Church Slavonic. His 
works include a short Russian chronicle ; 
the grammar, odes, tragedies, and Court 
panegyrics ; writings on chemistry, elec- 
tricity, glass manufacture, and metallurgy ; 
and translations from Lucian, Erasmus, 
Rousseau, and Junker. He was high in 
favour under the Tsaritsa Elizabeth, but 
retired from the Academy with a pension 
soon after the accession of Catherine II. 

I have heard Russian class-masters extol 
the career of Lomonossov as a model for 
young pupils in the tone of Dr. Samuel 
Smiles, a form of exhortation which creates 
disappointment quite as often as it en- 
courages. The eloquent tribute to the 
merits of the Russian language, in which 
Lomonossov cites Charles V., included in 
Reiff's grammar, is known to many who are 
unfamiliar with his life and work. 

FRANCIS P. MAKCHANO?. 

Streatham Common. 



BISHOPSGATE STREET WITHOUT. 
(See ante, p. 2.) 

" THE CATHERINE WHEEL " in Bishopsgate 
Without, between Nos. 43 and 48, was, 
until lately pulled down, the last of the old 
galleried inns in Bishopsgate Within and 
Without. Some years before its demolition 
it was severely damaged by fire, or it would 
probably have held out longer. Only one 
side of the house remained in 1895, and the 
galleries upon which the eyes of generations 
of travellers and carriers had rested, in 
anticipation of the repose afforded behind 
them, had been filled in with glass partitions. 
The date 1564 was upon an old lamp pre- 
served on the premises ; but whether this was 
an afterthought with a view to " business " 
one cannot say. I had not time in 1895 
to look over the remains thoroughly, though 



many features of antiquarian interest were 
claimed for what remained of the old inn. 

There was a local tradition that the stables 
of the inn were by no means innocent of 
accommodating the horses of " gentlemen 
of the road," among whom is said to have 
been that glorified rascal Richard Turpin. 

" On Saturday last Sir Humphrey Cahoon, 
a Scotch Gentleman, took a lodging at the' 
Katherine-Wheel Inn without Bishopsgate ; and 
next Morning about ten a Clock cut his own 
Throat with a Penknife, in so violent a Manner, 
that tho' the Assistance of able Surgeons was 
called in, he died in the Space of an Hour after. 
The Coroner's Inquest having sat upon the Body, 
brought in their Verdict Lunacy ; it appearing 
that for some time he was disorder 'd in his Senses." 
Weekly Journal, 25 Aug., 1722. 

If this be Sir Humphrey Colquhoun of the 
Nova Scotia baronetcy, the origin of whose 
family is " enveloped in the obscurity of 
remote antiquity," the date does not agree 
with that given by Burke. Sir Humphrey 
Colquhoun, a member of the Union Parlia- 
ment, died, according to the ' Peerage ' of 
1864, in 1715, but in another part of the 
account of the family the date is given as 
1718. 

It has been assumed I think erroneously 
that this sign had its origin in the Knights 
of St. Catherine of Mount Sinai, an order 
created in 1063 for the protection of pilgrims 
on their way to and from the Holy Sepulchre. 
This, of course, might be indirectly the case, 
but it is exceedingly probable that the sign 
was derived more directly from the arms of 
the Turners' Company, before that Company 
was incorporated, 2 James I., 1604. These 
arms are : Azure, a Catherine wheel between 
two columns or ; in chief, a regal crown 
proper ; in base, an axe argent, handled of 
the second, lying fesseways, the blade down- 
wards. (Cf. "The Axe Inn" in St. Mary 
Axe, 9 S. x. 425 ; xi. 110, 231 ; xii. 170, 
253, 351, 507 ; 10 S. i. 89.) 

In connexion with Richard Flecknoe's 
assertion that " The Catherine Wheel " 
became " The Cat and Wheel," owing to 
religious prejudice (' ^Enigmatical Charac- 
ters,' 1658, 8vo), it is worthy of note that 
in the scarce little book called ' The Stranger's 
Guide, or Traveller's Directory,' three dis- 
tinct Cat and Wheel Alleys are thus de- 
scribed : 

" Cat and Wheel Alley, in Bishopsgate Street 

without. 

Cat and Wheel Alley, in Whitechapel. 
Cat and Wheel Alley, on Snow Hill." 

It is probable that religious prejudice 
had nothing to do with the popular abbrevia- 
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(p. 173) the carriers are announced to set out 
from " The Catherine Wheel " (not " The 
Cat and Wheel ") in Bishopsgate Street. 

There was another " Catherine Wheel " 
at probably No. 80, which was known in the 
middle of the eighteenth century as " The 
Katherine Wheel and George " ; and there 
is still a George and Katherine Wheel Alley 
between Nos. 80 and 81 : 
" To be Sold, 

At the Katherine Wheel and George in 

Bishopsgate-Street, 

A Gelding, fourteen Hands and a half high, comes 
six Years old, walks, trots, and gallops well, and 
warranted sound. Likewise a handsome Glass 
Coach, fit for Town or Country, to be sold at a 
reasonable price." Daily Advertiser, 22 June, 
1712. 

Dunning' s Alley, between 151 and 152, 
was named after the ground landlord who 
built it. But Farrar's Rents, between 
163 and 164, are not mentioned at all by 
Dodsley. They are, however, later by both 
kockie and Elmes in their Topographical 
Dictionaries, where in both instances the 
name is spelt Farrer. 

Next comes Half-Moon Street, between 
167 and 169. " The Half Moon," as a 
token indicates, was a brewhouse (Beaufoy 
Coll., No. 177). Joan Wood in 1600, by 
her last will, gave a rent charge arising from 
the brewhouse called " The Half -Moon," 
and a house in Half-Moon Alley, with the 
lands and tenements, to St. Botolph's for 
charitable uses (Stow's ' Survey of London,' 
1754, vol. i. p. 423). 

Another person no doubt benefited greatly 
the parish of St. Buttolph, in the church of 
which his monument may be seen. This 
was the wealthy and generous (he seems to 
have been something more than merely 
liberal) Sir Paul Pindar. His town mansion, 
and the tavern that succeeded it, stood at 
the corner of Half -Moon Street, No. 169, 
Bishopsgate Street Without. The sign- 
board, bearing a half-length portrait of 
this famous merchant of the Stuart period, 
was considered by the Society of Anti- 
quaries sufficiently authentic for engraving 
and publication. Before it was discarded, it 
was to be seen placed flat against the wall 
beneath the central window of the wealthy 
knight's town mansion, for such it was 
or, to be more correct, a portion of it 
before its conversion to the uses of a tavern. 
But the whole of the remains the great 
reception room, and the famous panelled 
bay-windows, two stories in height, adorned 
with grotesque carvings were removed in 
1891 to make way for the Great Eastern 



Railway Company's terminus - widening 
scheme. The fact that the Company pre- 
sented these remains to the South Kensing- 
ton Museum, where they formed a valuable 
addition to the Architectural Court, testifies 
eloquently to the value placed by experts 
upon their artistic importance as an example 
of the domestic architecture of the period. 

"The Sir Paul Pindar's Head," as the 
tavern was called, was one of the first places 
to vend " Butt beer, commonly called 
Porter." An announcement in The Daily 
Advertiser, 15 October, 1742, is as follows : 

A CHALLENGE to the whole 

Town for 

BUTT BEER, commonly call'd PORTER. 
This " Butt beer," or " entire butt beer," 
or " porter," is said to have been first in- 
vented and used by a brewer named Har- 
wood, in 1722, to save the drawer (or 
" skinker," as he was called in Ben Jonson's 
time) the trouble of going to three different 
taps for what was called " half-and-half " 
and later " three threads," i.e., a third of ale, 
beer, and twopenny combined. Hence the 
frequent legend " So-and-So's Entire," the 
concoction deriving its name " porter " 
from being in such great demand by porters. 

Sir Paul Pindar's monument may be seen 
in St. Botolph's Church, Bishopsgate. He 
was born at Wellingborough in North- 
amptonshire. At sixteen he was taken from 
school and put apprentice to Mr. Parvish, 
an Italian merchant, who sent him at eigh- 
teen as his factor to Venice, where, and in 
parts adjacent, he resided for fifteen years 
or so, trading upon his own account, and 
on commissions both from his old master 
and from others of different countries, and 
accumulating a large estate. After trading 
five years in England, he became, through 
the instrumentality of the Turkey Company, 
Ambassador from the Court of James I. 
to the Grand Signior at Constantinople , 
where he much improved the Levant trade 
in British manufactures, which had been 
greatly injured by the competition of the 
Dutch and French. His wealth enabled 
him to become the possessor of a diamond 
from Turkey valued at 30,OOOZ., which he 
sold to James I. on credit " to wear at divers 
times on days of great solemnity." It was 
afterwards sold to Charles I., by whom it 
was transmuted into funds for securing the 
safety of Henrietta Maria and her children 
during the Civil War. 

There are many other instances of Sir 
Paul Pindar's generosity and benefactions, 
and of his loyalty to Charles I. when that 
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great acquisitions, nothing, even so early as 
1683, remained but his epitaph engraved in 
modest style upon black marble over the 
grave in St. Botolph's : 

Sir Paul Pindar, Kt. 
His Majesty's Ambassador to the Turkish 

Emperor 

Anno Dom. 1611, and Nine Years Resident. 

Faithful in Negotiations, Foreign and Domestjck ; 

Eminent for Piety, Charity, Loyalty, and 

Prudence. 
An Inhabitant Twenty-six Years, and bountifull 

Benefactor 
to this Parish. 

He died the 22d of August, 1650, 
Aged 84 years. 

Thomas Pyndar, Esq., son of Sir Paul, 
had for a short time possession of Nerquis 
House in Flintshire by marriage with Miss 
Wynne, heiress of the place. Their son 
Paul was created a baronet in 1662, and 
as he died single, the estate devolved by 
maternal right to Paul Williams, Esq., of 
Pont-y-gwyddel. On the death of Edward 
Williams, Esq., in 1737, it fell to his sister, 
relict of Robert Hyde, Esq. 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 

(To be continued.") 



GRAY'S ' ELEGY ' : 
TRANSLATIONS AND PARODIES. 

(See ante, p. 62.) 

II. PARODIES AND IMITATIONS. 

See 2 S. xii. 128; 3 S. i. 112, 197, 220, 

255, 339, 355, 398, 432 ; ii. 17, 55, 199 ; 

6 S. viii. 107 ; ix. 509 ; x. 37, 112, 239 ; 

8 S. iii. 44 ; 9 S. vii. 8 ; 10 S. ii. 175 : v. 406. 

English. 

Alfred. ' Alas ! Poor Fallen Sir Francis ! 
Elegy written in Westminster Hall.' In The 
Morning Post, 20 May, 1811. Cf. 3 S. ii. 17 ; 

5 S. iii. 44. 

' The Author ' (a parody on the Epitaph). 
One stanza quoted by Walter Hamilton, 
* Parodies of the Works of English and Ame- 
rican Authors,' January, 1888, part 50, p. 42. 

William Lisle Bowles. ' Elegy written at the 
Hotwells, Bristol, July, 1789.' London, Cadell 

6 Davies (what date ?). Two stanzas quoted by 
Hamilton, 077. tit., p. 44. 

Michael Bruce. ' Elegy, written in Spring.' 
In Pratt, ' Cabinet of Poetry,' 1808, v. 429-31. 

John Brandish. ' An Elegy on a Family- 
Tomb.' Cambridge, 1783. 

C. 'An Elegy, written in a London Church- 
yard.' In ' The Annual Anthology,' 1800, pp. 
247-53. Cf. 9 S. vii. 8. Apparently a mere 
revision of ' An Elegy in a London Churchyard,' 
an The Morning Post, 18 July, 1799. See below. 



Lord Chelmsford. ' Circuit Elegy.' Copies 
were printed and sent to the Bar Mess, 12 Jiily, 
1881. Eeprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., pp. 36-7. 

Corporal Trim. ' Nocturnal Contemplations 
in Barham-Down Camp, 1795.' In The Gentle- 
man's Magazine, June, 1801, Ixxi. 549-50. Re- 
printed in ' The Port Folio,' 1801, i. 352, and in 
L. D.'s edition of the ' Elegy ' with a French 
translation, 1806, where it is signed H. 

' Cremorne : an Elegy.' In Funny Folks, 1878. 
Reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., p. 36. 

John Cunningham. ' An Elegy on a Pile of 
Ruins.' London, 1761. 

J. S. Dalton. ' Pensive in a Boneyard.' In 
' Lyra Bicyclia,' 1885. 

Thomas "Dibdin. 'Woes of Change; or, The 
Lachrymatory Lament of Laudator Temporis 
(et Rerum). Act i.' In The Comic Magazine, 
vol. i. 1832. 

William Dobson (3 S. ii. 55) quotes from memory 
a parody of the Epitaph published at the time of 
the Reform Bill agitation. Can any one now 
supply the reference ? 

[Hugh Downman.] ' An Elegy wrote under a 
Gallows.' London, [1770 ?1. 

John Buncombe. ' An Elegy written in Canter- 
bury Cathedral.' Canterbury, 1778. Merely a 
loose imitation. 

Same. ' An Evening Contemplation in a 
College.' London, 1753. The first of the long 
series of parodies. Reprinted as by "An 
Oxonian " in 1776 (cf. 2 S. xii. 128). 

Edward. ' Elegy.' In The Mirror, 26 Feb., 
1825, v. 131-2. 

Thomas Edwards. Additional stanzas for the 
1 Elegy.' In The Gentleman's Magazine, March, 
1782, Iii. 120. 

' Elegy.' In ' The Poetical Calendar,' 2nd ed., 
1763, vi." 68-70. 

' Elegy.' In The Mirror, 1825, v. 131. 

' An Elegy in a London Churchyard.' In 
The Morning Post, 18 July, 1799. Cf. 3 S. i. 356. 

1 An Elegy in Imitation of Gray.' Written in the 
King's Bench Prison, by a Minor. London, 1790. 

' Elegy in St. Stephen's Chapel.' In ' The New 
Tory Guide,' London, 1819. 

' Elegy on a Betting Office.' In Diogenes, 
1853. Reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., p. 31. 

' Elegy on a Pair of Breeches.' In ' The 
British Minerva,' Hamburgh, 1818. Reprinted 
by Hamilton, op. cit., p. 22. 

' An Elegy on Cremation.' In Scribner's 
Monthly, July, 1875. 

' Elegy on the Death of Bow-Fair, 1823.' 
In The Mirror, 1823. Reprinted by Hamilton, 
op. cit., p. 23. 

' An Elegy on the Death of The Guardian Out- 
witted.' London, 1765. 

1 An Elegy on the Departed Season.' In 
Banter, September, 1867. Reprinted by Hamil- 
ton, op. cit., pp. 47-8. 

' Elegy, Supposed to be written on a Field of 
Battle.' London, 1818. Loosely imitative. 

' Elegy written among the Tombs in West- 
minster Abbey.' In Bell's ' Fugitive Poetry,' 
London, 1789, 'ix. 36-42. 

' An Elogy written at a Carthusian Monastery 
in the Austrian Netherlands.' London, 1775. 

' Elegy written in a College Library.' In 
Sir J. H. Moore's ' Elegant Extracts from the 
British Poets,' 1824. Reprinted by Hamilton, 
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' An Elegy, written in a London Churchyard.' 
By a Tradesman in the Vicinity. In Punch, 
1849, xvii. 111. Cf. 3 S. i. 220. In slightly 
altered form reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., p. 31. 

' Elegy written in a Railway Station.' In 
Punch, 1853, xxiv. 88. Cf. 3 S. i/339. 

' Elegy written in a Town Church Yard.' In 
' The Yorkshirernan's Comic Annual,' 1885. 
Reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., pp. 41-2. 

' Elegy written in Bartlemy Fair, at Five 
o'clock in the Morning.' In The Morning 
Chronicle, 14 Sept., 1812. Cf. 3 S. i. 356. 

' An Elegy written in Covent Garden.' London, 
[1765 ?]. Cf. 3 S. i. 356 ; ii. 199 ; 6 S. viii. 107 ; 
x. 37, 112, 239. 

' Elegy written in Poets' Corner, "Westminster 
Abbey.' In The Spirit of Ihe Public Journals, 
1802, vi. 131-2. Cf. 3 S. ii. 17. 

' Elegy written in Rotten Row by a Discon- 
solate Swell.' In Funny Folks, 12 August, 
1876. Reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., pp. 34-5* 

' An Elegy written in St. Bride's Church-Yard, 
on Tuesday the Third of January, 1769.' London, 
1769. 

' Elegy written in the House of Commons.' 
in Echoes from the Clubs, 24 July, 1867. Reprinted 
by Hamilton, op cit., pp. 33-4. 

' An Elegy written in Westminster Hall.' See 
Alfred. 

' An Elegy written in Westminster Hall during 
the Ixmg Vacation.' In The Repository, 1777, 
ii. 77-82. 

' Elegy written near a Suburban Station House.' 
By a Ticket-of-Leave Man. In Punch, 1856, 
xxxi. 217. Cf. 3 S. i. 197. 

' An Elegy written on a Poor, Honest Man,' 
&c. In The Gentleman's Magazine, 1775, xlv. 
339-40. 

' Epitaph on a Late Administration.' In 
The Morning Chronicle, 18 January, 1811. Re- 
printed by Hamilton, op. cit., p. 18. 

' Epitaph on a Noted Highwayman.' In The 
Spirit of the Public Journals, vol. x., 1806. Re- 
printed by Hamilton, op. cit., p. 39. 

' Epitaph on " The Pic-Nic." ' In The Morning 
Post, 1803. Reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., p. 39. 

CLARK S. NORTHUP. 
Munich. 

(To be concluded.) 

These may be added : 
Italian. 

Giuseppe Torelli. In ' Consiglio ad un Giovane 
Poeta del Sig. Sherlock,' 4th ed., London, 1780, 
pp. 111-21. 

Latin. 

Elegia in Ccemeterio rustico scripta, numeris 
elegiacis Latine reddita. Auctore Coll. Cant. 
Alumno. 8vo, 13 leaves, 1776. 

Gray's Elegy ; translated into Latin Ovidian 
Verse. By the Author of ' Lacon.' 2nd ed., 
8vo, 7 leaves, London, 1822. The second title 
says " C. C. Colton." 

Gray's Elegy translated into Latin verse, in- 
cluding the author's rejected stanzas, together 
with Dr. Edwards's additional lines. By D. B. 
Hickie. London, A. J. Valpy, 1823. "8vo, 12 
leaves. Signed D. Bamfield Hickie, Bracon- 
dale, n r Norwich, 10 Dec., 1822. Dedicated to 
Sheffield Grace of the Inner Temple. 

W. C. B. 



With reference to the query about 
Zhukovsky's Russian translation of Gray's 
' Elegy,' may I refer to my note on the subject 
at 10 S. v. 357 ? 

FRANCIS P. MARCHANT. 

V. A. Zhukovsky's version of Gray's 
' Elegy,' mentioned ante, p. 64, is in most 
of the reading books recommended by the 
Russian Minister of Education. It is usually 
among the poems selected for the pupils to 
learn by heart. In most Russian antho- 
logies this translation is to be found. 

The Italian translations by Cesarotti and 
by Torelli, referred to on p. 63, and the 
Latin version by Costa (ibid.), were repub- 
lished at Parma in 1793 in a quarto volume 
entitled * Elegia inglese sopra un Cimitero 
campestre, con due vers. italiane di G. 
Torelli, Melch. Cesarotti, ed altra lat. di 
G. Costa.' This edition is mentioned in the 
' Dictionnaire Bibliographique,' published 
in Paris in 1824. 

Perhaps Count Algarotti (1712-64), a 
friend of Gray and admirer of his poetry, 
translated the ' Elegy ' into Italian. His 
complete works were published in 1811 at 
Venice in seventeen volumes, and reprinted 
in 1891-4. H. G. WARD. 

Aachen. 

The following fact may interest MR. 
CLARK S. NORTHUP. In 1880 there appeared 
at Rotterdam ' Th. Gray, Het graf. Elegie. 
Uit het Engelsch door J. van Krieken,' 8vo. 
A. E. H. SWAEN. 

Groningen. 



THE PRINCE OF WALES AS CHURCH- 
WARDEN. King Edward VII., when Prince 
of W T ales, was the first heir apparent to the 
throne to be admitted a churchwarden. 
The Rev. T. T. Perowne, Rector of Reden- 
hall, Norfolk, had the unique honour 
of admitting the Prince officially to the 
churchwardenship of Sandringham, and the 
Archdeacon's Articles of Inquiry were 
always signed by his Royal Highness. The 
Prince acted as Minister's Churchwarden, 
with Sir Dighton Probyn as his colleague. 
Certainly no parish in England ever before 
had the heir apparent for its churchwarden. 
FREDERICK T. HIBGAME. 

KEATS, HAMPSTEAD, AND SIR C. W. 
DILKE. Reference has been already made in 
'N & Q.' (9 S. ii. 90, 167) to the poet's asso- 
ciations with this salubrious suburb. It is 
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Dilke are now to find a permanent home 
there, in accordance with the wishes of 
the lamented baronet. Hitherto, as we 
know, they have been exhibited at the 
Chelsea Public Library. It is anticipated 
that the treasures of books, letters, and 
manuscripts will find shelter at one of the 
numerous libraries of Hampstead. The 
Central Library in the Finchley Road has 
been suggested. But it may be thought 
more appropriate to choose the branch 
in the Worsley Road as being nearest to 
Keats' Grove (formerly John Street), with its 
imperishable memories of the gifted poet. 

CECIL CLARKE. 

" SCAVENGER " AND " SCAVAGER." In 
a review of two sections of the 'N.E.D.' 
(ante, p. 98) it is said that " scavenger " is 
altered from " scavager " with intrusive n. 
I am not able to consult the ' N.E.D.,' but 
think it likely that this theory is based on 
Mr. Riley's statement that 

" the City Scavagers, it appears, were originally 
public officers, whose duty it was to attend at the 
Hythes and Quays for the purpose of taking 
custom upon the Scavage (i.e., Showage) or open- 
ing out of imported goods. . . .These officers, no 
doubt, gave name to the ' Scavengers ' of the 
present day." 

Dr. Round quotes this passage (from the 
introduction to the ' Liber Albus,' p. xli) in 
his * Commune of London,' and remarks 
that " no evidence whatever is adduced by 
Mr. Riley for his assertion that the * Sca- 
vagers ' originally performed the above 
duty or had anything to do with it " 
(pp. 256-7). Has any evidence for the 
" scavage " theory been discovered, and 
if so, where is it to be found ? 

No doubt the 'N.E.D.' has given due 
weight to the important document "printed 
by Dr. Round (ibid., pp. 255-6), which 
proves that early in the thirteenth century 
the Scavengers were appointed to act as 
inspectors of the watch : 

" Debent autem escavingores eligi qui singulis 
diebus a vigilia Nat[alis] domini usque ad diem 
epyphanie videant illos qui debent de nocte 
vigilare quod sint homines defensi biles et decenter 

ad hoc armati Et si aliqua defalta in custodia 

contigerit, escavingores debent illos 'inbreviare et 
ad primum hustingum vicecomitibus tradere." 
The document in question is assigned by 
Dr. Round to 1213. G. H. WHITE. * 

St. Cross, Harleston, Norfolk. 

[See Prof. Skeat's ' Etymological Dictionary,' Ed. 
4, 1910.J 

"FENELONS" OR "TAB SLIPPERS." 
Your reviewer in his very interesting notes 
on the ' N.E.D.' (ante, p. 99) writes, " Simple 



things are not always easy to define," 
instancing " tab," a short strap or projecting 
part, &c. It may not be known that " tab 
slippers " are slippers made with a tongue 
or flap reaching into the instep. They were 
formerly known as " Fenelon slippers," 
called after the famous preacher, for what 
reason I have never been able to find out. 
Ladies used to be very partial to " tab 
slippers" on account of the ease of " fitting- 
on," but they seem now to have discarded 
them in favour of bar shoes, with straps' 
over the instep. Most gentlemen's slippers 
still retain " the tab " or flap. 

M. L. R. BRESLAR. 

* N.E.D.' : MISSING WORDS IN ' Si 
SIMPLE.' I have sought in vain for the 
following words in the section referred to : 
Silvate, Silvic (see Rennie's ' New Supple- 
ment to the Pharmacopoeias,' 1837 : 
" Silvates are formed by silvic acid like 
pinates ") ; Sikimin (see Greenish' s ' Materia 
Medica,' 1899, under ' Star Anise Fruit ' : 
" The poisonous constituent is the crys- 
talline principle sikimin"). C. C. B. 

MARRIAGE ON 30 FEBRUARY. The note 
of the Jersey tombstone with the date of 
31 April (see US. ii. 524) recalls a similar 
curiosity. In the registers of Kirkburton, 
Yorks, * in February, 1640/41, there were 
three children baptized on " the xxviijth " ; 
and the concluding entry is 

George Beardsall and Martha Roberts marled 
the xxx th . 

The next entry is a baptism on 7 March 
(' The Parish Registers of Kirkburton,' i. 234). 

A. RHODES. 

[For other instances of 30 February see 10 S. i. 
166, 233 : vii. 146, 216 ; viii. 330.] 

HERTFORDSHIRE MONUMENTAL INSCRIP- 
TIONS. I may state that another Hundred 
of Hertfordshire (see 11 S. i. 205) that of 
Broadwater is now completed, and the list 
of inscriptions in each parish has been 
transcribed, bound, and indexed. Inquiries 
will be freely answered if a stamped and 
addressed envelope is enclosed. 

Typed indexes of the surnames in each 
Hundred have been presented to the British 
Museum Library. W. B. GERISH. 

Bishop's Stortford. 

MRS. BOOTH, ACTRESS. On 4 September, 
1803, the Rev. Joseph Benson, a Methodist, 
preaching at Lambeth, " gave the congre- 
gation an interesting account of the con- 
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and popularity." Some details follow, and 
mention is made of the fire at Astley's 
Amphitheatre, " within a few yards of the 
chapel, the other night" ('Memoirs,' by 
Richard Treffry, 1840, pp. 261-2). 

W. C. B. 



WE must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 



ARNOLFINI FAMILY. Mr. W. H. James 
Weale and other critics have from time to 
time published biographical details in regard 
to' Jan Arnolfini, whose portrait was twice 
painted by Jan van Ey ck, and La Borde quoted 
documents referring to " Jehan Arnoulphin, 
marchant de Lucques, demourant a Bruges." 

It may perhaps be as well to place on 
record the following inscription that I lately 
read on a tablet on a house in the Via del 
Duomo at Lucca. Unfortunately, I copied 
only part of it : 

" Qui Visse Gio. Attilio Arnolfini, uomo di 
Vasta mente e di larghi concetti. MDCCXXXIII 

MDCCLXXXIl." 

Do any of your readers know whether it is 
possible to trace the descent of Giovanni 
Attilio Arnolfini from the man whose 
features are preserved to us in the portraits 
in the National Gallery and at Berlin ? 

MAUBICE W. BROCKWELL. 

"GEORGE INN" AT WOBURN. In the 
Court of Requests temp. Elizabeth reference 
is made to "the George Inn" at Woburn, 
Beds. Can any of your readers inform me 
whether this inn is still in existence ? 

TT r^ -ri 

Christchurch, N.Z. 

" PRO PATRIA EST DTJM LUDERE VIDEMUR." 

Biichmann has not this saying at all ; 
King ranks it among the Adespota. Can it 
really not be traced back to its author ? 
It would be a pity. As long as PROF. 
BENSLY has not pronounced judgment, the 
case is not hopeless ; so I appeal to his vast 
learning. G. KRUEGER. 

Berlin. 

REV. STEPHEN RADCLIFFE, D.D. I 
should be glad of any information concerning 
the family history of the Rev. Stephen 
Radcliffe, D.D., Vicar of Naas, co. Kildare, 
who died December, 1732. E. G. COCK. 



AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED. 
Who is the author of the following lines, 
and to whom do they refer ? 

A Scot and a Jesuit hand in hand 
First taught the world to say 
That peoples ought to have the power, 
And princes should obey. 

Also, who is the author of the following, 
which is quite worthy of Burns ? 

When Nature makes a man a king, 
Nae croon needs she to gie Mm. 
She claps a trade mark on his broo, 
An' sends his patent wi' 'im. 

W. E. WILSON. 
Ha wick. 

Can you help me to trace a quotation which 
seems very familiar, but which I cannot find? 
I may not have the exact words, but it is 
something like this : " Out of the - 
and waspish word ' No ' to pluck the sting." 

T T? TJ 1 C* 
J. K. r . <JT. 

The captain's little daughter took her father by 

the hand : 
" Is not God upon the water as well as on the 

land ? " 

M. A. B. 

In the forties I read as a boy the following 
verse in Chambers' s Journal. Who wrote it ? 

Good reader, I this little booke 
Writ with one gray goose quill ; 

A pen it was when it I tooke, 
A pen I leave it still. 

G. C. 

' SATURDAY REVIEW ' AND THE SAXONS. 

" Alfred belongs to a state of society (I say 
it with all deference to The Saturday Eevieio 
critic who keeps such jealous watch over the 
honour of our Saxon ancestors) half -barbarous." 
M. Arnold, ' Essay on Marcus Aurelius.' 

Who was The Saturday Review critic, 
or, at any rate, how, and in what numbers, 
did he protect the honour of our Saxon 
ancestors ? 

[Probably E. A. Freeman.] 

BISHOP OF DURHAM AND THE CURATE. 

" We must pause, lest our readers reject us, 
as the Bishop of Durham the poor curate, because 
he was ' mystical and confused.' " Walter 
Bagehot, ' Essay on Shakespeare.' 

Who was the Bishop, and where is the 
story told ? 

THE THIRTY-NINE ARTICLES. 

" A great divine tells us that^the Thirty-Nine 

Articles are ' forms of thought.' " 7/m/. 

Who was the great divine, and where 

did he say this ? GEORGE SAMPSON. 



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SIB ANDREW JUDD. Is there any portrait 
in existence of Sir Andrew Judd or Judde ? 
He was born at Barden, Tonbridge ; Lord 
Mayor 1550 ; six times Master of the 
Skinners' Company ; founder of Tonbridge 
School ; a Muscovy merchant ; defended 
London successfully at the time of Wyatt's 
rebellion; died in 1558, and was buried in 
St. Helen's Church, Bishopsgate. Apparently 
no print or engraving exists of him. 

J. POLAND. 
Skinners' Hall, E.G. 

LITANY : SPITTING AND STAMPING THE 
FEET. Mr. W. Buckley Jones of Cefn 
Bryntalch, Montgomeryshire, gives me per- 
mission to send the following note written 
in pencil in his father's bound first volume 
of the third series of Archceologia Cambrensis 
(1855) : 

" Habit to spit and stamp the feet in the 
Litany when we pray to beat down Satan under 
our feet 234. It was the custom of the Rev d 
Llewellin Davies, Rector of Llanmerewig." 

The Rev. Llewelyn Davies was Rector of 
that parish in Montgomeryshire 1794-1827, 
when he died and was buried in it. There 
is a tablet to his memory in the church of 
St. Harmon's, Radnorshire. 

Can the spitting be connected with 
the classical spitting to avert " fascinatio " 
or the evil eye ? Are other instances known 
of the habit ? BASIL EVAN JONES. 

University College, Oxford. 

REV. EDWARD YOUNG. (See 4 S. ix. 63.) 
Since I became rector of this parish I have 
had many inquiries made respecting Edward 
Young, author of the ' Night Thoughts,' who 
was born here. The last received is one 
concerning his only son, Frederick, who was 
living at Welwyn in 1781. His daughter 
Elizabeth was married at Gretna Green to 
a Mr. Haine, circa December, 1781. 

When did F. Young die, and did his 
daughter leave any children ? If so, is any 
representative of the family living now ? 

E. L. H. TEW. 

Uphara Rectory. 

NUNNINGTON CHURCH DEDICATION : ST. 

ANNE CHANGED TO ALL SAINTS. The dedica- 
tion of Nunnington Church is to All Saints 
e.nd St. James. 

Village feasts, I believe, are generally 
coincident with the church's saint's days ; 
but Nunnington Feast is on the 5th of 
August, which is neither All Saints' Day nor 
St. James's Day. 

Dr. Atkinson, the Master of Clare College, 
Cambridge, stated, as I am told, that at the 
Reformation dedications to St. Anne were 



changed to All Saints. Am I right in con- 
cluding that, in consequence of the deletion 
of 10 or 11 days from the calendar in 1752, 
the original dedication of Nunnington 
Church was to St. Anne (26 July) and St. 
James (25 July) ? 

Can any one kindly give me the authority 
for Dr. Atkinson's statement ? 

WM. COLLINS. 

Nunnington Rectory, York. 

PEWTER CHURCH FLAGON, 1734. I have 
a pewter church flagon with the inscription 
" Richard Cock, Church Warden, 1734," 

I am anxious to find the church from which 
it came, with a view to its return at my 
death, or sooner if I discontinue collecting 
pewter. It was purchased in Suffolk. 

CHAS. G. J. PORT. 

1, West Mansion, Worthing. 

NAPOLEON AND MLLE. ELIZABETH Pou- 
LYNE. In a book recently published by Mr. 
Eveleigh Nash, called ' Recollections of a 
Society Clairvoyant,' it is stated that the 
Emperor fell in love with this lady when 
he was at Erfurt in September, 1809. Miss 
Poulyne is said to have been gifted with 
** extraordinary psychic powers and the 
uncanny gift of second sight." Napoleon 
called her ".ma petite sorciere," and she 
prophesied his disaster in Russia. 

His letters to the lady are alleged to have 
been sold to a collector after her death in 
1881. 

Is there any corroboration of this story, 
and where are these letters now ? 

HORACE BLEACKLEY. 

THOMAS MORRES JONES is described, in 
Burke' s 'Landed Gentry' for 1882 as "the 
Bumper Squire Jones of Carolan's Muse." 
should be glad to learn further particulars of 
him. When was he born ? Whom and 
when did he marry ? When in December, 
1769, did he die ? G. F. R. B. 

JEAN VOLE'S ' LES ARRIVANTS.' ' Les 
Arrivants,' p. 76, by Jean Vole, reads : 

"Mme. Guitton met la dernieremain au convert, 
qui s'etalait sur une belle nappe a chemin de table 
ouvrage," &c. 
Can any of your readers construe this ? 

J. M. 

" OWNS " : " BLITHERING." What are 
the meaning and derivation of the words 
" owns " (" blood and owns ") and " blither- 
ing " ("blithering baboon") in Shaw's 
' The Devil's Disciple ' ? SPRING. 

Vienna. 

[Owns - wounds.] 



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"TEAPOY ": " CELL ABETTE . " In ' The 
Warden ' by Trollope, in the account of the 
Warden leaving Hiram's Hospital anc 
removing his furniture, two things are men 
tioned : his daughter's " teapoy " and his 
" cellarette." I have heard the latter term 
given to a drawer in a sideboard where 
bottles are kept, but do not know it as a 
separate piece of furniture. What is a 
"teapoy"? is it an old name for a tea 
caddy ? MABIE L. DUABTE. 

[A "teapoy" is a three-legged table with a lift 
ing top, enclosing tea-caddies, or a small stand for 
holding teacup, sugar-basin, cream-jug, &c. Ogilvie's 
' Imperial Dictionary ' quotes Yule to the effect that 
the name has no relation to tea, but is an Anglo 
Indian importation, a corruption of the Persian 
sipai, tripos, and meaning a three-legged table or 
tripod generally. The ' N.E.D.' includes both mean 
ings of " cellarette."] 

ALBEBTUS A LASCO. Can any reader 
kindly inform me where I can find particu- 
lars relating to the life of Albertus a Lasco, 
a Polish Palatine, who visited England in the 
time of Elizabeth ? SCYTHIAN. 

[The ' D.N.B.,' under Laski or k Lasco, John, says : 
" Albertus Laski, palatine of Siradz in Bohemia, 
probably a nephew of the reformer, visited England 
in 1583, and nearly ruined himself by searching for 
the philosopher's stone with John Dee and Edward 
Kelley." Reference is made to 2 S. x. 332, where 
JOHN GOUGH NICHOLS supplies further interesting 
information about Albertus.] 

GBATIOUS OB GBACINES STBEET = GBACE- 
CHUBCH STBEET. When did the change in 
the name of this street take place ? 

In a pamphlet ' The Nine Worthies of 
London,' &c., 1592, in Harleian Miscell., 
vol. viii. p. 436, it is Gracious Street. In 
' God's Warning to his People of England by 
the great overflowing of the waters or 
Floudes lately hapned in South Wales,' &c., 
the pamphlet is to be sold in Gratious 
Street. 

I have also found the name on several 
pewter plates of about 1700. J. JESSON. 

CBEVEQUEB OF BEBEFOBD. The name of 
this place was used to distinguish one 
branch of the great Kentish family. Where 
is it ? OLD SABUM. 

WOBTLEY-MONTAGU. WTio was Catherine, 
married by licence 16 September, 1737, at 
St. Paul's, Exeter, to Henry Ashe of Sowton, 
Devon ? It would seem to be a mere 
coincidence that Edward, the notorious eon 
of the celebrated Lady Mary, in 1751 
married a Miss Ashe, as that lady, reputed 
to be the daughter of "a high personage," 
had nothing to do with the highly respectable 
county family. OLD SABUM. 



QUEEN'S COLLEGE, OXFOBD : FELLOW IN 
1625. In the burials of Meysey Hampton, 
Gloucestershire, occurs the following : 

" Edmond Minister, Master of Arts, and 

fellow of Queen's College, Oxford, buried Nov. 4, 
1625." 

Can any one oblige me with the surname 
of the above ? It is the first entry in the 
register, and indistinct. 

R. J. FYNMOBE. 
Sandgate. 

ABSINTHE -DBINKING : ITS OBIGIN. This 
practice undoubtedly dates from the French 
wars in Algeria (1832-47) ; but while M. 
Anselmier, a French physician, states in a 
pamphlet published in 1862 that the French 
soldiers on service in Algeria took to drinking 
absinthe mixed with water because they 
had no wine or beer, ' The Encyclopaedia 
Britannica ' (tenth edition) says that they 
were ordered to mix it with their wine as a 
febrifuge. Can any one inform me, stating 
also his authority, which of these accounts 
is the correct one ? H. M. 

EAB-PIEBCING. Can any reader give 
information on this somewhat curious 
subject, especially in relation to the practice 
of piercing boys' ears, whether in connexion 
with initiatory rites or otherwise ? Does the 
custom survive in any part of Europe at the 
present time, and in what manner is it com- 
monly performed ? The subject is interest- 
ing and has its bearings both on archaeological 
and anthropological research. E. H. C. 



VANISHING LONDON: 

PROPRIETARY CHAPELS. 

(US. ii. 202, 254, 293, 334.) 

THBOUGH the courtesy of Mr. Harry W. 
l,ee, the Chapter Clerk and Registrar to the 
Bishop of London, and Prebendary Glen- 

dinning Nash, the editor of ' The London 
Diocese Book,' I am able to give the follow- 
ng complete list of Proprietary Chapels 
.vithin the diocese of London, asked for by 

MB. CECIL CLABKE at the second reference. 
There are Proprietary Chapels in other 

dioceses, but Mr. Nash has no particulars 

)f these. 
Mr. Nash's name will always be associated 

with that of Christina Rossetti, for during 

her last illness he was her daily visitor, 

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where he was at that time the minister, that 
her remains were carried on Wednesday, 
the 2nd of January, 1895, previous to their 
interment in Highgate Cemetery. Mr. Nash 
originated the memorial to her in the church, 
and the reredos filled with paintings by 
Burne - Jones perpetuates her association 
there. In a note in ' N. & Q.' for November 
2nd, 1901 (9 S. viii. 361), it was stated that 
the cross given by her aunt Eliza Polidori, 
which occupied a position in front of the 
reredos, had been stolen. 

PROPRIETARY CHAPELS WITHIN THE DIOCESE OF 
LONDON. 

Emanuel Chapel, Park Street, Chelsea. 

S. John's Chapel, Downshire Hill. 

Brunswick Chapel, Upper Berkeley Street. 

S. Peter's Chapel, Buckingham Gate. 

West Street Chapel, Seven Dials, 

Rain's Chapel, Homerton. 

Foundling Chapel, Guilford Street, W.C. 

CHAPELS PULLED DOWN OR DIVERTED. 

Bedford Chapel, Bloomsbury. 
Belgrave Chapel, near Eaton Square. 
Berkeley Chapel, Mayfair. 
Bridewell Chapel, Blackfriars. 
Curzon Chapel, Mayfair. 
Eaton Chapel, Eaton Square. 
Hanover Church, Regent Street.* 



* The demolition has enabled the patrons of 
Hanover Church, the Rector and Churchwardens 
of S. George, Hanover Square, to promote the 
building and endowment of S. Anselm, Davies 
Street. 



Montpelier Chapel, Brompton.f 

Montpelier Chapel, Twickenham. 

Percy Chapel, Tottenham Court Road. 

Rolls Chapel, Chancery Lane. 

S. Andrew, Tavistock Place. 

S. Etheldreda, Ely Place. 

S. George, Albemarle Street. 

S. James, Westmoreland Street. || 

S. James, York Street. 

S. John, Bedford Row. 

S. Mark, Long Acre. 

S. Mary, Park Street .J 

S. Matthew, Spring Gardens. 

Trinity Chapel, Conduit Street. 

S. Paul. Great Portland Street. |] 

S. Philip, Regent Street. TJ 

CHAPELS ACQUIRED AND CONSECRATED. 

The following Proprietary or other Chapels, 
among others, have during the past century 
been acquired. By Orders in Council legal 
parishes have been assigned, and in many cases 
endowments provided. 

t Now used as a Church school for Holy Trinity* 
Brompton, and All Saints', Knightsbridge. 

J The late Duke of Westminster, who was the 
freeholder, subsequently built at his sole expense 
S. Mary, Bourdon Street, as a chapel of ease to 
S. George, Hanover Square. 

The site has been leased, and the annual rental 
augments the value of several benefices in the 
ancient parish of S. George, Hanover Square. 

|| The proceeds of the sale of the sites has been 
assigned far endowed curacies and for other 
purposes. 

T[ The proceeds 'of the sale chiefly augment 
benefices within the ancient parish of S. James, 
Piccadillv. 



Former Name. 


Dedication. 


Population 
of Parish 


Accommo- 






assigned. 


dation. 


East India Chapel 






S. Matthias, Poplar 




4,437 


950 


Archdeacon Tenison's C 
Christ Chapel . . 


lapel 




S. Thomas, Regent Street 
Emmanuel, Maida Vale . . 




2,194 
9,742 


750 
640 


Fitzroy Chapel . . 






S. Saviour, Fitzroy Square 




5,234 


800 


Portman Chapel 
S. Bartholomew. . 






S. Paul, Portman Square 
S. Bartholomew, Gray's Inn Rd 




4,600 
6,311 


1,100 
2,000 


S. Paul, Kilburn 






S, Paul, Kilburn . . ' 




2,173 


750 


S. Mary, Greek Street 






S. Mary the Virgin, Soho 




4,097 


500 


S. Mary, North End 






S. Mary, North End 


. 


6,235 


1,000 


Tredegar Chapel, Stepn 
Quebec Chapel . . 


y 




Holy Trinity 
Church of the Annunciation 





14,974 
3,408 


900 
1,200 


Wheler Chapel .. 






S. Mary, Spital Square . . 





3,720 


450 



The union of the following parishes has been sanctioned : - 

S. John and S. Saviour, Fitzroy Square, 
and the following effected : 

S. Paul, Covent Garden, and S. Michael, Burleigh Street. 

S. Pancraa and All Saints, Gordon Square. 
As a result, one of, the churches in each case will be taken down or diverted. 



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MANSEL FAMILY (US. ii. 269, 533). MB. 
A. C. JONAS' s lengthy reply on this " family " 
prompts me to offer a word of warning to 
your readers. 

There is no family of Mansel, but there is a 
series of families of this name, between 
which under strict conditions of research no 
connexion can be traced. 

The name occurs very early in our public 
records and very frequently in many counties, 
notably Devon, Dorset, Somerset, Glouces- 
ter, York, Hereford, Bedford, Buckingham, 
Leicester, where, and in other counties, we 
find distinct families bearing the name in the 
twelfth century and in the sixteenth, and 
covering all ranks of life. 

In the early period the name is an " emi- 
grant " one, like " Scot " and " Fleming," 
and simply means an emigrant from Maine. 
Even in this period, however, there is at 
least one other source, for the Mantels of 
Little Missenden, Bucks, sometimes were 
spelt Mauncell and even Maunsell ; but it is 
possible to trace this family down to 1500, 
and all through it is distinct from the several 
families of Mansel and Maunsell in Bucks 
and Bedford. 

In the case of the families we meet later 
(fifteenth and sixteenth centuries) the 
derivation is not so certain, as they are in 
several cases long associated with places 
called Malmeshull (Mansill) and Mannesle, 
Mansle, with the variants Mansfelt or Mans- 
field. This shows a pure Saxon origin 
a fact which has been hitherto overlooked by 
historians and students of patronymics, 
who never suspected a multiple origin for 
such a simple name with its clear and obvious 
interpretation as " a man from Maine." 

We can say with fair certainty that the 
Maunsells of Buckingham and Northampton- 
shire (see the interesting article in Oswald 
Barron's ' Northamptonshire Families,' 1906, 
and G. E. Cokayne in Genealogist, N.S. xix.), 
who include the Mansels of Cosgrove (whence 
Dean Mansel of St. Paul's) and the Irish 
landed gentry of the name (cf. Burke's 
* Irish Landed Gentry ' and R. G. Maunsell' s 
history of Maunsell), have no ascertainable 
connexion with the Mansels of Gower 
(Glamorgan) in Wales, who probably were 
connected with the family of that name in 
Somerset. 

For this Welsh family, which includes the 
Lords and Baronets Mansel, see W. W. 
Mansel's book, and the articles in the 
various volumes of Burke (' Extinct Peerage,' 
' Baronetage,' ' Landed Gentry ' ) and R. G. 
Maunsell' s volume, all of which, however, 



combine the various distinct families in 
accordance with the old heraldic tradition. 

The arms of most of the families are three 
manches (mancele, the old French for a 
sleeve or manch), which is merely canting 
heraldry, and in the case of the Bucking- 
ham family cannot be traced far back. 

The most prominent bearer of the name 
was John Maunsell, Provost of Beverley, 
Chancellor of St. Paul's, Treasurer of York, 
Keeper of the Great Seal, the first Secretary 
of State, and the favourite of King Henry III. 
His life in the ' Dictionary of National Bio- 
graphy ' needs the following corrections and 
additions. 

There were three John Mansells king's 
clerks to Henry III. : 

1. John the Provost, &c. 

2. His " kinsman " John, who was Pre- 
bendary of Fenton, Canon of Wells, and held 
the temporalities of York and Durham. 
See for him Patent Rolls under dates 1263, 
8 March ; 1259, 11 Sept. ; 1260, 17 Aug. ; 
1258, 1 Dec. ; 1264, 14 Dec. ; 1265, 16 Nov. ; 
1266, 16 Jan. (contrasted with 1265, 12 
and 24 Nov.). The Inq. Post-Mortem that 
is extant refers to him. 

3. John, nephew of the Provost. Cf. 
Patent Roll 1259, 28 Oct. ; 1263, 10 Jan., 
&c. 

John the Provost was the son of a deacon 

by an irregular marriage with Amabel 

(' Calendar of Papal Letters,' vol. i. p. 362, 
and Charter Rolls, 1268, 5 Dec.). This 
Amabel is not the Amabel of Ripon who in 
the Inq. P.-M. of John No. 2 is named as 
a relation (see Charter Roll cited and 
Pat. Rolls 1266, 11 Aug.). His sister Emma 
married AJard le Fleming, and subse- 
quently, Henry de Legh (see ' Calendar of 
Charter Rolls '). 

John the Provost died about 20 Jan., 
1265 (' Annals of London,' in Rolls Series, 
Chron. Ed. I. and II., and ' Register of Arch- 
bishop W. Giffard of York,' Surtees Society, 
pp. 78, 79). His name appears frequently 
in the patents of 1264 as that of an active 
politician, and in February, 1265, the grant- 
ing away of all his posts begins. 

Books hitherto printed are full of errors 
concerning him. The most trustworthy 
guide is the ' Dictionary of National Bio- 
graphy ' with the above additions and 
corrections. In using the Patent (&c.) Rolls 
Calendars concerning him note that the com- 
pilers of the indexes have hopelessly con- 
fused the three Johns, who are now separated 
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It is hardly necessary to add that John 
was not " Lord Chief Justice," nor was he 
ever married, nor did he leave any heirs of 
any kind (see Pat. Rolls, Abbrev. Placit, 
Placita de Quo Warranto, &<;.) This is 
only one specimen of the kind of ancient 
mistake perpetuated in the reply at the 
second reference. D. P. W, MAUNSELL. 

LAMB, BURTON, AND FRANCIS SPIERA 
(11 S. iii. 61). Nathaniel Bacon refers to a 
writer of the name of " Sigismund Gelous 
(or Gelons), a Transilvanian." The name is 
evidently disfigured. Sigismund Gelenius 
is known, but he was a native of 
Bohemia, a classical scholar, and not likely 
to indulge in cock-and-bull stories. It is 
possible, therefore, that Cromwell's Master of 
Requests had in his mind the author who 
on the title-page of one of his books calls 
himself " Stephanus Katona Gelejinus Un- 
garus, Orthodoxus Transsylvanise Epis- 
copus," and wrote against " Rabbinos, 
Samosatenianos, Socinianos, Francisci- 
Davidistas [Unitarians], Anabaptistas, Papis- 
tas, Lutheristas," &c. in a word, against all 
people who in matters of theology did not 
agree with him. It was probably this book, 
the abbreviated title of which is ' Prseconium 
Evangelicum,' that Bacon had read. Accord- 
ing to the title-page again, the text is illus- 
trated (illustratur) " historicofum monu- 
mentis, sapientum apophthegmatis, senten- 
tijs, allegorijs, similibus et exemplis turn 
Sanctorum, turn profanorum selectissimis." 
The book was published, in 1638, at Alba 
Julia in Transylvania, where the author was 
residing (Ecclesise Albensis Antistes). I 
do not know of any copy in England. 

L. L. K. 

GEORGE I.'s STATUES (11 S. ii. 7, 50, 98, 
135, 199). Mr. Charles Dalton in the preface 
to his recently published work * George the 
First's Army ' puts on record another statue 
of George I. I give the note in his own 
words : 

" The design on the cover of this book needs a 
few words of explanation. It is from a photo 
[sic] of George the First's marble statue now in the 
-Museum of the Public Record 'Office. There 
has been some correspondence lately in Notes and 
Queries on the subject of George I.'s statues in 
London. The statement was made, in above 
periodical, that ' of the four statues of George I., 
in London, only one remains that on St. George's 
steeple, Bloomsbury.' So far as I know, this 
assertion has not been contradicted. The statue 
in the R. O. Museum represents George I. in the 
costume of an ancient Roman. ' It formerly 
occupied a niche over the judicial bench of the 
court in Rolls House, now demolished. On its 
present pedestal is a leaden ^tablet, from the 



foundation stone of that building, bearing the 
royal arms and inscribed " G. R., 1717 " ' (Official 
Catalogue)." 

W. R. B. PRIDEAUX. 

GAMNECOURT IN PICARDY : BARBARA DE 
BIERLE : ERSKINE OF DUN (11 S. ii. 429, 
512 ; iii. 50, 112). Three entries under date 
24 January, 1538/9, " Banket at the Lard of 
Dunnis mariage," in the Accounts of the 
Lord High Treasurer of Scotland, probably 
refer to the second marriage of John 
Erskine of Dun, the Superintendent, with 
Barbara de Bierle. 

By his first wife, Lady Elizabeth Lindsay, 
John Erskine had issue at least six sons : 

1. John, Fiar of Dun, m. in or before 
1547 Margaret Hoppringle, and d.v.p. s.p. 
7 Sept., 1563. His widow m. secondly 
Andrew Arbuthnot of Arbuthnot, who d. 
6 March, 1606. 

2. Robert, who succeeded to Dun. 

3. William, of Sheriffbank. 

4. James, of Westermorphy, m. Janet 
Graham. 

5. Mr. Thomas. 

6. Alexander, of Turphawly and Schiref- 
bank in 1589. 

Robert Erskine of Dun succeeded his 
father in 1589/90. He m. Katherine, dau. 
of Robert Graham of Morphy, and d. 27 
Dec., 1590, having had issue 

1. John, of Logie. 

2. Samuel, m. circa 1588 Grissell Forrester, 
and d. leaving " ane bairn," before 17 Aug., 
1590. 

3. Mr. Arthur, m. his first cousin of the 
half-blood Margaret Maule, sister of Patrick, 
1st Earl of Panmure. 

John Erskine of Logie, Fiar of Dun, 
according to the " Obits " in the ' Spalding 
Club Miscellany,' d. 17 June, 1591 ; but an 
old pedigree of the family in my possession 
states he predeceased his father Robert. 
He m. Agnes, sister of James, Lord Ogilvy of 
Airlie, and had issue, with four daughters 

1. John Erskine of Dun, m. 1588 Margaret 
Keith, dau. and coheir of Robert, Lord 
Altrie, and d. 21 Oct., 1592, leaving issue by 
her (who m. secondly Sir John Lindsay of 
Ballinscho) 

(1) John Erskine of Dun, d. 23 March, 
1610, having m. 1604 Magdalene, dau. of 
Sir James Haliburton of Pitcur, and had by 
her (who m. secondly John, 1st Earl of North- 
esk) an only dau. Margaret, m. circa 30 Oct., 
1622, William Durham of Grange, and had 
issue. 

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2. David of Logie, who d. before his 
nephew John, having m. Jean Maule, his 
first cousin once removed of the half-blood 
sister of Patrick, 1st Earl of Panmure, and of 
Margaret, wife of David's uncle Mr. Arthur 
Erskine. He left issue 

(1) John Erskine of Dun, poisoned, it was 
alleged, by his uncle Robert Erskine. He 
d. 23 May, 1613, setat. about 12 years. 

(2) Sir Alexander Erskine of Dun, d. 1667 
having m. Margaret Lindsay, dau. of Alex- 
ander, 1st Lord Spynie, and left issue, from 
whom descend the present families of 
Kennedy-Erskine of Dun, West (Erskine), 
late of Balhall, and Scott-Erskine of Bal- 
hall. 

3. Robert, executed 1 Dec., 1613, for the 
alleged poisoning of his nephew John (see 
Pitcairn's ' Criminal Trials '). 

ERSKINE E. WEST. 
Cowper Gardens, Dublin. 

COWPER'S " GOD MOVES IN A MYSTERIOUS 
WAY" (11 S. iii. 10, 58). At the latter 
reference a correspondent states that 
" Julian's ' Dictionary of Hymnology,' 
p. 1642, says that the verse in MS. runs, 
The bud may have a bitter taste, 
But wait to smell the flower. 

What edition of the ' Dictionary ' is meant ? 
In my copy there are not 1642 pp. Further, 
I cannot find in the ' Dictionary ' any such 
statement as that above quoted. SCOTUS. 

[The quotation is from p. 1642 of the 1907 
edition, in the New Supplement. The line, 

But wait to smell the flower, 

h cited in the ' Dictionary of Hymnology ' on the 
authority of the late PROF. J. E. B. MAYOR'S con- 
tribution at 10 S. ii. 244.] 

DICKENS: "SHALLABALAH" (11 S. iii. 
68, 111). May I venture to suggest an 
explanation of this word, somewhat in the 
line indicated in the query ? Probably 
the word was coined by Dickens, but was not 
intended to have any intelligible meaning. 
It possibly occurred to him through his 
recollection of a word used in the Bible. In 
Isaiah, chap, viii., the prophet was directed 
to write in a great roll, or, perhaps, on a 
large smooth board, with a man's pen, that 
is, in the character familiar to the common 
people, the sonorous-sounding word " Maher- 
shalal-hash-baz." It was not a word under- 
stood by the people, but was designed to 
attract their attention and excite their 
curiosity. As Biblical scholars tell us, it 
was intended to prepare them for coming 
invasion and an impending overthrow of j 
their enemies. Probablv the recollection of i 



this word " Maher-shalal-hash-baz," and the 
purpose it was designed to serve, suggested 
to Dickens the word " shallabalah." Like 
its Biblical prototype, " shallabalah " was 
meant to attract attention and excite 
curiosity as to something that was soon to 
happen. W. SCOTT. 

"THE OLD MOGUL," DRURY LANE (11 S. 
iii. 86). This old sign evidently com- 
memorates the " Great Mogul," the chief of 
the Moguls or Monguls, who as Emperor of 
Delhi ruled over the greater part of Hindo- 
stan. In this particular instance the sign 
probably dates from the time when Drury 
Lane was a fashionable residential neigh- 
bourhood, and celebrates the last of the 
energetic sovereigns who occupied the 
Mogul throne during the seventeenth cen- 
tury, namely, Aureng-zebe, whose wealth 
and power induced many of the European 
sovereigns to send embassies to him with a 
view to commercial advantages. The last 
nominal Emperor of Hindostan, however, 
was dethroned in 1857. Dryden's tragedy 
of ' Aurung Zebe ' (1676) is founded on the 
great and profoundly hypocritical prince 
who reigned from 1658 till 1707, the year of 
his death, and it was no doubt during the 
latter part of this period that the sign was 
set up. J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. 

OUNDLE (11 S. iii. 9, 137). Please allow 
me to explain that the information given 
3y MR. EDWARD SMITH at the last reference 
s incorrect in three particulars. First, the 
ipelling in the charter referred to is not 
Jndela, but Undale (Birch, 'Cart. Saxon.,' 
36, lines 8 and 12). Secondly, the 
date 664 is a clear forgery, as the 
harter contains the French word lestage, 
e., lastage ('N.E.D.'). And thirdly, 
Mr. M'Clure's suggestion that it is "a worn 
orm " of Avondale is wholly out of the 
question. No one ever yet pronounced the 
word avon as oun. What are the imaginary 
intermediate forms ? 

WALTER W. SKEAT. 

THREAD PAPERS (US. iii. 8, 90). Before 

he advent of spools, thread was supplied in 

keins. The housewife then cut through 

he skein at one end and wrapped it in a 

riece of paper with the loop projecting. 

["his wrapping was secured by a pin, and the 

hreads, thus protected, could be extracted 

ingly by their looped ends. Poor Strephon's 

verse being probably written on superfine 

paper would be appreciated at least for 

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" More Labours, More Thread Papers.'' At 
least this meant the preservation of the 
' Ode to Chloe's Eyebrows,' &c. I cannot 
give MB. J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL'S chapter 
and verse. Thread papers were in use, at 
least for embroidery silks, during the last 
decade. ALECK ABRAHAMS. 

LADY O'LOONEY'S EPITAPH (11 S. iii. 
108). See also 10 S. vii. 135. Mrs. Jane 
Molony's epitaph from which the alleged 
Pewsey version is apparently made up is 
given in extenso in the Appendix of ' Antiente 
Epitaphs,' collected by Thomas F. Raven- 
shaw, M.A., F.S.A. (1878). It was copied 
by Mr. Ravenshaw in 1877. The Pewsey 
version appears in ' Epitaphs and Epi- 
grams ' (4th ed.), 1869, exactly as recorded 
by SENESCENS at the above reference. 

JOHN T. PAGE. 

Long Itchington, Warwickshire. 

MOTHER'S MAIDEN NAME AS CHILDREN'S 
SURNAME (11 S. iii. 107). This was 
common, not only in Fifeshire, but all over 
the kingdom, as ' N. & Q.' pedigree com- 
pilers, will searchers, &c., can abundantly 
testify. Even in peerages it is common. 
Thus : 

" The name of Montjoie adopted by Sir Walter 
Blount from the surname of a maternal ancestor 
must have carried with it some chivalric associa- 
tions to the ears of those who had taken part in the 
French wars." ' Hall of Lawford Hall,' p. 190. 

The instances from every county are so 
numerous, and would take up so much space 
in ' N. & Q.,' that a bare mention ought to 
suffice. The old question of double Christian 
names confirms this. As an early instance, 
we may take the entry on 18 January, 
1592, when Robert Browne, son of John 
Lillie, Esq., was baptized at Mexborough, 
Yorkshire. He was afterwards known as 
Robert Browne Lilly (Burn, ' Reg. Ecc. 
Parochialis,' p. 80). I take it that an 
inspection of the pedigree would reveal that 
Brown is not a real Christian name so much 
as the mother's maiden name. 

A. RHODES. 

There may be a practice in Fifeshire of 
children, born in lawful wedlock, taking 
the mother's rather than the father's name, 
but I at least have never heard of it. At the 
same time, it is quite possible that there may 
be occasional instances unknown to me. 
Be it remembered that in Scotland (up to 
comparatively recent times, at least) any 
person, come to years of discretion, and 
having no unlawful purpose in view, could 
assume whatever name he pleased, without 



the formalities attending such a change in 
England. I have in mind while writing a 
prominent Scottish journalist who many 
years ago and while in the prime of life made 
such a change. For information on the 
subject generally, perhaps help might be 
derived from Prof. Cosmo Innes's ' Con- 
cerning some Scotch Surnames/ published 
at Edinburgh, 1860. W. S. S. 

GEOFFREY POLE (11 S. iii. 45, 112). 
Thanks are due to MR. DIXON from all 
interested in the Poles of the blood royal 
for his communication at the last reference. 
He is probably aware of three printed 
pedigrees of this family, viz : A, that in the 
' Harl. Soc. Publ.,' liii. 89 ; B, that in Berry' c 
' Hants Genealogies,' 168 ; and C, that in 
' Sussex Archaeological Collections,' xxi. 74. 
A and C largely support the authority cited 
by MR. DIXON. 

With reference to these pedigrees and 
MR. DIXON' s contributions several observa- 
tions and questions suggest themselves. 

(1) Geoffrey's mother. A and C agree with 
MR. DIXON (at 9 S. ix. 468) in making his 
mother a Constance Pakenham ; but A 
calls her father Sir Edward, C Sir John, and 
' Harl. Soc. Publ.,' liii. 76, Sir Edmund. 
Was he Sir John Pakington (as to whom see 
' D.N.B.') ? If not, who was he ? Her will 
dated 12 August, 1570, was proved in 
London 20 September following. 

B says that Geoffrey's mother was Bona 
Maria, daughter of John Da[n]vers of 
Cothorpe (? Copcourt), co. Oxon. In ' Karl. 
Soc. Publ.,' v. 187, Bova, daughter of John 
Danvers of Ipwell (wherever this may be), 
and Banbury, is said to have married Sir 
" Jefery Joole " of Buckingham. To 
whom was this lady married, and what was 
her real name ? 

(2) His brothers and sisters. As was 
stated at 9 S. x. 18, he had four brothers. 
Their names were Arthur, Thomas, Edmund, 
and Henry. All died without issue. Of his 
six sisters, one is stated at the above 
reference to have been a Brigittine nun. She 
was not one of the old nuns enclosed 1 August, 
1557, when Syon House was restored as a 
nunnery. What was her name, and when 
did she become a nun ? 

The other five were all married ; Catherine 
to Anthony Fortescue (9 S. vii. 327, 435 ; 
viii. 73, 449 ; ix. 53) ; Elizabeth to William 
or Edward Nevill, concerning whom further 
particulars would be welcome ; Margaret to 
Walter, sixth son of William, second Lord 
Windsor (Brydges, 'Collins's Peerage,' i" 



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673) ; Mary to William Cuffold, of Cuffold, 
in the parish of Basing, Hants (Berry, 
op. cit. 281) ; and Anne to Thomas Hilders- 
ham, of Stetchworth, Cambridgeshire (2 S. 
viii. 170, 259 ; ix. 29). 

(3) His uncle Arthur. Sir Arthur Pole, 
knighted in France, 31 October, 1523, was 
a member of the King's Household. He 
married Joan, Jane, or Eleanor, daughter of 
Sir Roger Lewkenor, of Bolebroke House, 
near Hartfield, Sussex, by whom he had a 
son Henry, who seems to have died un- 
married, and two daughters, Mary, who 
married John Sanney of Sussex, according to 
B or Sir John Stanley, according to C (i.e., 
probably John Stanley of Dalgarth, Cumber- 
land, father of Sir Thomas Stanley of Fittle- 
worth, Sussex) and Margaret or Margery, 
who is said to have married Sir Thomas Fitz- 
herbert, knighted 22 Feb., 1546/7, Sheriff 
of Staffordshire 1547 and 1555, who was 
committed to prison as a Papist soon after 
Elizabeth's accession, but in Burke' s 

* Landed Gentry ' this knight is said to have 
married in 1534 Anne, d. and h. of Sir Arthur 
Eyre of Padley, Derbyshire. (See ' Sussex 
Archaeological Collections,' Hi. 35 ; ' Harl. 
Soc. Publ.,' liii. 26, 67 ; Strype, 'Annals,' I. i. 
416, 417). Further particulars about Sir 
Arthur Pole and his family would be 
interesting. 

(4) His wife. A and C agree with MB. 
DIXON'S authority that she was a Button of 
Dutton : but the Duttons of Dutton, 
Cheshire, became extinct in 1526 (Ormerod, 

* Cheshire,' i. 650), and she does not seem 
to have been a Dutton of Hatton (op. cit., ii. 
795). Was she a Dutton of Dutton, 
Lancashire ? She appears to have returned 
to England in 1590, from Antwerp, where 
she had been living with her husband and 
two of her daughters. (' Cath. Rec. Soc.,' 
v. 189). 

(5) His son Geoffrey. C agrees with MB. 
DIXON'S authority that he was living in 
1606 at " Wirehall," and that he is " said to 
be the ancestor of Sir James Pole of Wire- 
hall " ; but, if anything is certain in 
genealogies, it is clear that Sir James Poole, 
first baronet, of Poole Hall, in the hundred 
of Wirrall, Cheshire, was not descended 
from Margaret, Countess of Salisbury. The 
Pole or Poole living in Wirrall in 1606 was 
one John Pole who died in 1613. (See 
Ormerod, op. cit. ii. 423, and cf. ' Harl. 
Soc. Publ.,' xviii. 191 ; lix. 195-6). 

(6) His daughters. We know what be- 
came of Mary : what happened to the others? 

JOHN B. WAINEWBIGHT. 



" TEWKE," " TUKE "(US. iii. 87, 130). 
I should like to be allowed to supplement 
PBOF. WEEKLEY'S communication by a note 
which I have already sent to DB. MTJBBAY. 
I think it quite possible that the ultimate 
source is not the G. Tuch, but the G. Zeug., 
" stuff, materials," in its Low G. form. 
Cf. Du. tuig, " stuff," as a sea-term, 
" rigging " ; O. Low G. tuch, " Kleidungs- 
stiicke," Liibben ; Low G. (Bremen) tug. 
This would account easily for the F. spelling 
tugue, with g. At any rate, it Mail do no 
harm to consider this. I think, further, 
that it makes the spelling teu possible. 

WALTEB W. SKEAT. 

"LET us oo HENCE, MY SONGS " (11 S. 
iii. 128). The lyric sought is * A Leave- 
taking ' in Swinburne's ' Poems and Ballads ' 
(First Series), which begins 

Let us go hence my songs ; she will not hear. 

Let us go hence together \\ ithout fear, 
the ending of the first stanza being 

Yea, though we sang as angels in her ear, 

She would not hear. 

M. Gabriel Mourey, in translating this piece 
into French prose (see ' N. & Q.,' 10 S. 
ix. 375) gets into difficulties with 

Though all we fell on sleep, 

for which he offers the remarkable rendering 
" quoique tout ce que nous touchames 
dorme " ! Nor does the full ? dighi'ty of 
" Let us go hence, go hence " survive in 
" Allons-nous-en d'ici, allons-nous-en d'ici." 
EDWABD BENSLY. 

MOVING PICTUBES AND CINEMATOGBAPHS 
(11 S. ii. 502, 537 ; iii. 56). In Strutt'n 
' Sport and Pastimes ' is an account of 
' Moving Pictures,' described by him as 
bearing some distant analogy to the puppets. 
In Queen Anne's reign, a show was exhibited 
at " the great house in the Strand, over 
against the Globe Tavern." It was then 
advertised as " the greatest piece of 
curiosity that ever arrived in England, 
being made by a famous engineer from the 
camp before Lisle." The pictures were 
probably similar to those frequently seen 
in clock-cases, &c., and were flat painted 
images moving upon a flat surface. The 
camps and armies were represented, to- 
gether with the city and the citadel, the 
English forces commanded by the Duke of 
Marlborough, " besides abundance more 
admirable curiosities too tedious to be 
inserted here." 

Strutt adds the personal recollection of a 
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1760, where the pasteboard figures .were 
seated in rows one above the other, on clouds 
of the same material " contrived in such a 
manner that the whole group descended 
and ascended with a slow motion to the 
sound of music." E. MABJEBY Fox. 

EPIGBAM IN SCHOPENHAUEB (11 S. iii. 
128). 
Old books read with attention, the true and the 

genuine old books, 

New ones about these say little that matters a 
whit. 

WALTEB W. SKEAT. 
[MR. M. L. R. BRESLAR also thanked for reply.] 

CHUBCH WITH WOODEN BELL-TUBBET 
(11 S. iii. 10, 95). The old church of St. 
Clement, Chorlton-cum-Hardy, Manchester, 
is a small edifice of red brick consisting of 
nave and aisles ; the lych gate is surrounded 
by a belfry containing a peal of tubular bells 
given in 1887 by the late Sir William Cunliffe 
Brooks, first and last Bart, (died 1900), 
who also built the gate. 

FBEDEBICK LAWBENOE TAVABE. 

Manchester. 

COUBT LIFE (11 S. iii. 107). There are 
two books which together will probably 
supply X. Y. with what is asked for. 
W. J. Thorns, the first editor of ' N. & Q.,' 
published in 1838 ' The Book of the Court 
exhibiting the Origin, Peculiar Duties and 
Privileges of the Several Ranks of the 
Nobility and Gentry, more particularly of 
the Great Officers of State and Members of 
the Royal Household.' This book was 
dedicated to Queen Victoria, and was no 
doubt the outcome of public enthusiasm 
and interest at the time of Her Majesty's 
coronation. Thorns published this book 
in the year in which he was elected a Fellow 
of the Society of Antiquaries, and in 1844 
he brought out an improved edition of the 
book. Thorns was the first to get together 
from many obscure sources a great mass of 
scattered information bearing upon the 
history and duties of the great officers of the 
State. As late as 1883 Mr. Armytage, a 
daughter of Lord Fitzhardinge, published 
' Old Court Customs and Modern Court 
Rule,' a very entertaining book, containing 
a lot of information as to royal regulations 
and rules of ceremony for many great 
occasions. If X. Y. wishes to pursue^ the 
subject further he will find some curious 
knowledge in Nicholas Carlisle's ' The Place 
and Quality of Gentlemen of His Majesty's 
Most Honourable Privy Chamber.' Car- 
lisle's book was the outcome of his appoint- 



ment as one of the Gentlemen of the Privy 
Chamber, and was largely taken from 
Pegge's ' Curialia.' His book was roughly 
handled in The Westminster Review, April, 
1830. One of the earliest of the books 
on this subject is a ' Treatise of the Court, 
or Instructions for Courtiers,' written by 
Denys de Refuges, and translated into 
English by John Reynolds, and published 
1622. John Topham, who held many 
offices worthily, and was treasurer to the 
Society of Antiquaries, published in 1787 
' Observations on the Wardrobe Accounts 
of the Twenty - Eighth Year of King 
Edward I.' This proved one of the publica- 
tions of the Society of Antiquaries, and 
three years later (1790) the s,me Society 
issued ' A Collection of Ordinances and 
Regulations for the Government of the Royal 
Household made in Divers Reigns, from 
King Edward III. to King William and 
Queen Mary.' This is a most valuable 
work for any student of the subject. All 
the foregoing books contain much informa- 
tion on the subject, but there are certain 
sources of specialized knowledge which may 
be alluded to. Thus Sir Harris Nicholas's 
Preface to the sixth volume of the Proceed- 
ings of the Privy Council contains a valuable 
essay on the office of the Lord Chamberlain. 
Henrietta, Countess of Suffolk, who was 
Mistress of the Robes to Caroline, Queen 
of George II., has left in her correspondence 
many interesting notes upon the duties 
of her office. It seems hardly necessary 
to add that regulations for those attending 
State functions are issued from the Lord 
Chamberlain's Office, and are printed in The 
London Gazette. A very detailed account 
of a State ball in the eighteenth century 
may be found printed in The European 
Magazine for January, 1777. Messrs. 
Harrison issue " by authority " ' Uniforms 
to be worn by the Queen's Household 
[coloured plates], 1870.' The private in- 
formation in the hands of the Lord Chamber- 
lain and the Garter King at Arms would be 
illuminating and priceless. 

A. L. HUMPHBEYS. 
187, Piccadilly, W. 

Publications on the duties of Court 
officials, if issued at all, must, from the nature 
of the case, be but few in number. Perhaps 
the best method to obtain the information 
required would be to read such works as 
deal with he matter in the light of personal 
experience. Such books as the * Diary and 
Letters of Madame D'Arblay ' (Frances 
Burney), Mrs. Armytage's * Old Court 



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Customs and Modern Court Rule,' or 
Baroness Bloomfield's ' Reminiscences of 
Court and Diplomatic Life ' may be recom- 
mended. There is a comparatively recent 
publication dealing with Court dress. A 
new edition appeared in 1903. It is en- 
titled ' Dress Worn by Gentlemen at His 
Majesty's Court,' and was published by 
Messrs. Harrison & Sons. Perhaps it might 
be useful. T. S. R. W. 

[MR. J. HOLDEN MAcMiCHAEL also thanked for 
reply.] 

SCARBOROUGH SPA (11 S. iii. 129). The 
earliest association of the term ' Spa ' with 
Scarborough will be found in Thomas 
Hinderwell's ' History and Antiquities of 
Scarborough and Vicinity,' 4to, with plan 
and plates of views, York, 1798. It is 
described as being one of the most accurate 
and interesting of all the English topo- 
graphical works, being a complete history 
and description, not only of the town and 
its stupendous castle, but also of the sur- 
rounding country, &c. Hinderwell says : 

" Mrs. Farrow, a sensible and intelligent lady, 
who lived at Scarborough about the year 1620, 
sometimes walked along the shore, and observing 
the stones^over which the waters passed to have 
received a russet colour, and finding it to have 
an acid taste, different from the common springs, 
and to receive a purple tincture from galls, thought 
it -probably might have a medicinal property. 
Having, therefore, made an experiment herself, 
and persuaded others to do the same, it was found 
to be efficacious in some complaints, and became 
the usual physic of the inhabitants. It was 
afterwards in great reputation with the citizens 
of York, and the gentry of the county, and at length 
was so generally recommended, that several 
persons of quality came from a great distance to 
drink it ; preferring it before all the others they 
had formerly frequented, even the Italian, French 
and German spaws." 

The mixture is described as a compound of 
vitriol, iron, alum, nitre, and salt, and Mr. 
J. S. Fletcher, in his ' Picturesque Yorkshire,' 
says that it is much more than probable that 
visitors at last took a healthy dislike to it, 
and a hearty liking to the scenery which 
surrounded the stones " of a russet colour." 
" It is not generally observed," says the 
latest historian of Yorkshire, "that the 
paople who frequent Scarborough are an 
devotedly attached to the " spaw " waters as 
to other liquids which may be obtained in the 
refreshment-rooms of the adjoining saloon." 
The following authors have written upon the 
Scarborough " Spa " : Drs. Wittie, Simp- 
son, Tunstall, Short, Shaw, and Belcombe, 
by whom the waters have been analyzed. 

J. HOT.DEN MACMICHAEL. 



This spa was first discovered about 1620 
by Mrs. Farrow, a Scarborough gentlewoman, 
who, observing the stones in the watercourse 
to be of a russet tincture, and finding the 
water to possess an acid taste, &c., concluded 
it to be of medicinal value. She took it 
herself, and advised its use to her neighbours, 
and it soon became the common physic of 
the neighbourhood. In a few years its 
fame reached Hull. Dr. Robert Wittie, 
who practised there from 1638 to 1656, often 
recommended the water to his patrons, and 
on his removal to York in 1656 he prepared 
his work upon it entitled ' Scarborough 
Spaw, or a Description of the Nature and 
Virtues of the Spaw at Scarborough,' 
published 29 May, 1660. 

The connexion between Col. Fairfax and 
Scarborough Spa through Dr. Wittie seems 
fairly obvious. These particulars are, in the 
main, deduced from " The Natural, Experi- 
mental, and Medicinal History of the 
Mineral Waters of Derbyshire, Lincolnshire, 
and Yorkshire, particularly those of Scar- 
borough, by Thomas Short, M.D., of 
Sheffield," London, 1734, published in 
pursuance of a resolution passed at e, meeting 
of the Council of the Royal Society dp/ed 
17 Sept., 1733. E. G. B. 

The earliest medical book seems to be Dr. 
R. Wittie's ' Scarbrough Spaw, or descrip- 
tion of its Nature and Virtues,' 12mo, pub- 
lished in London in 1660. S. D. C. 

MARINE INSURANCE (11 S. iii. 107). 
Has MR. WHITWELL looked at the biblio- 
graphies referred to by me in the ' Register 
of National Bibliography ' under the word 
insurance ? The first is a volume by Mr. 
Frederick Martin on the ' History of Lloyds ' 
(1876). It contains on pp. xi xx a biblio- 
graphy of marine insurance. The second 
is a work on marine insurance by William 
Gow. The second edition came out in 
1900, and contains on pp. xiii-xiv a list of 
the literature on the subject. The fourth 
edition appeared in 1909, and the biblio- 
graphy is on pp. xvii-xviii. 

W. P. COURTNEY. 

It is stated on what appears to be good 
authority that at a very early period in the 
history of the Anglo-Saxons a kind of in- 
surance was known among them, according 
to which the members of " guilds," on pay- 
ment of certain fixed contributions, guaran- 
teed one another against loss from "fire, 
water, robbery, or other calamity." As 
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it is on record that the magistrates of 
Barcelona in 1435 issued an ordinance in 
relation to it. And it may also be noted in 
English history that Lord Keeper Bacon 
in opening Queen Elizabeth's first parlia- 
ment in 1559 used words to this effect : "doth 
not the wise merchant, in every adventure 
of danger, give part to have the rest assured ? " 
It need only be added that treatises on 
marine insurance (but possibly not of the 
kind the querist requires) are published by 
Messrs. Sweet & Maxwell, and also by Mr. 
Butterworth. Row TAY. 

THE BLACK PRINCE'S LANGUAGE (11 S. 
iii. 7, 116). The words " E lo bort, es mort 

pres ?. . . .Noy ay res fait " are in the 
Limousin dialect of Occitanian, a dialect 
which has scarcely changed from the days 
of Bertram de Born to the present day when 
the " sir vent es " of Prosper Estieu are 
written in the same vigorous strain. The 
Black Prince spoke this language, as did our 
Richard a century and a half before him. 

1 may note that " noy " is a contraction of 
" non i," so that the answer is equivalent 
to Fr. " [je] n'y ai rien fait." 

EDWARD NICHOLSON. 
Paris. 

[MB. ALBAN DORAN also thanked for reply.] 

GREAT SNOW IN 1614 (11 S. ii. 508; 
iii. 13). The late Mr. Andrews in ' Famous 
Frosts and Frost Fairs,' 1887, p. 12, pro- 
vides an interesting description of this 
prolonged frost from Drake's ' Eboracum.' 
He also names the pamphlet cited by MR. 
BOLLAND, and says it was reprinted in 1814 
in 4to. ALECK ABRAHAMS. 

SIR CHARLES CHALMERS, BT. (11 S. iii. 
89). Sir Charles Chalmers, Baronet, was 
a Captain in the Royal Regiment of Artillery, 
and died unmarried, it is said, at Pondi- 
cherry, on the Coromandel Coast, November, 
1760. He had been recognized at the 
office of Lord Lyon, King of Arms, as a 
Baronet of Nova Scotia, and as the heir male 
of the estate of Cults in the parish of Jar land, 
co. Aberdeen ; but it is difficult to say when 
the baronetcy was created for which he was 
served heir. 

The only baronet of the name of Chalmers 
known to have been created was " Sir 
James Chalmers, son of Gilbert Chalmers, 
Laird of Cults in the parish of Jarland, co. 
Aberdeen," who was created a baronet of 
Scotland, November 24, 1664, with re- 
mainder to the heirs male of his body ; and this 
baronetcy is generally supposed to have 



become extinct at the death of the grantee, 
unmarried, but a succession of four other 
baronets followed Sir Charles Chalmers, 
who died in November, 1760, until Oct. 1, 
1834 ; but whether the assumption of the 
title by these gentlemen was justifiable or 
not it is not now possible to say. Full 
information will be found in the ' Complete 
Baronetage,' by G. E. C., vol. iii. pp. 348-9. 

F. DE H. L. 

The baronetcy inherited by Sir Charles 
Chalmers was conferred in 1664. He was 
a grandson of the first .baronet. An 
account of the family will be found in 
Anderson's ' Scottish Nation,' i. 618-19. 
The career of Sir Charles as sketched by 
Anderson differs somewhat from Major 
Leslie's account. He is said, for example, 
to have died at Pondicherry. His successors 
in the title (there was no estate) are traced 
down to the early decades of last century. 
Sir George Chalmers, the son of Sir Charles, 
was an eminent painter. His son, Sir 
Robert, a naval commander, died at Port- 
sea in 1807. The son of Sir Robert was Sir 
Charles W. Chalmers, an officer in the royal 
navy. According to Anderson, he " was the 
last baronet of whom there is any account." 

SCOTUS. 

[Ms. H. J. B. CLEMENTS also thanked for reply.] 



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Part II. (Cambridge University Press.) 

THIS excellent history of literature is making 
steady advance, and has already, we think, estab- 
lished itself with serious scholars as a survey 
full in detail, and at the same time representing 
the views of experts chosen from various parts 
of the world. The editors in these volumes have 
gone to the learned of Cracow, Wisconsin and 
Harvard, Belfast and Leeds, besides the two 
great English foundations. This wide range of 
contributors, also to be seen in the new edition 
of ' The Encyclopaedia Britannica ' which is 
issuing from the Cambridge University Press, 
shows that scholarship has no boundaries, and 
is a pleasant contrast to those earlier days when 
the University Presses were virtually confined 
to the productions of the local alumni. 

As before, we note an admirable arrangement 
into chapters, which greatly facilitates the work 
of the student. The first volume before us is 
concerned with early English drama as mani- 
fested in its origins, secular influences, religious 
pieces, tragedy, and comedy. Chapters are 
devoted to * The Plays of the University Wits,' 
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Dramatists,' and various aspects of Shakespeare 
occupy five chapters ; while Dr. Ward sums up 
at the end with ' Some Political and Social 
Aspects of the late Elizabethan and Earlier 
Stewart Period.' 

The second volume is chiefly concerned with 
notable dramatists from Ben Jonson to Ford and 
Shirley, but chapters are also devoted to ' The 
Elizabethan Theatre,' ' The Children of the 
Chapel Royal and their Masters,' ' University 
Plays,' ' Masque and Pastoral,' and ' The Puritan 
Attack upon the Stage.' This survey, in two 
volumes, covers the field with a plenitude of 
learning which is sufficient to daunt the con- 
fidence of the most assured critic. 

Leaving for the moment the greatest name, 
we may mention some of the articles which have 
struck us most. Mr. Harold Child's work on 
' Secular Influences and the Elizabethan Theatre ' 
is admirable alike in style and matter. Mr. 
Arthur Symons in his chapter on ' Middleton and 
Rowley ' writes with a distinction and a pre- 
cision of phrase which are all his own. Par- 
ticularly to be commended are his generaliza- 
tions on the stage of the day, and that to us 
surprising licence of violence which shows that 
" it had no character to keep up." Mr. G. C. 
Macaulay has a lucid and judicious study of 
' Beaumont and Fletcher.' The comparison of 
Fletcher's style with Shakespeare's is note- 
worthy (vol. vi. p. 118). In vol. v. Dr. Ward's 
papers on ' The Origins of English Drama ' and 
' Some Political and Social Aspects ' are not only 
valuable and close-packed summaries, but also 
put us in touch with modern life by references to 
the pageants of to-day, Oberammergau, and such 
occupations as drinking and smoking. Advance- 
ment in Colleges and Universities did not in those 
days always coincide with. merit, but Dr. Ward 
is able to claim an advantage in intellectual 
condition for Cambridge over Oxford for 
several years. This was due to the lesser 
hold the Puritans had on Cambridge. Their 
attack on the stage is well handled by Mr. J. 
Dover Wilson at the end of vol. vi. ' University 
Plays,' treated by Mr. F. S. Boas, had their 
culmination in Ruggle's ' Ignoramus,' which 
King James I. insisted on seeing twice. On the 
other hand, in 1613, when Prince Charles Fre- 
derick, the Elector Palatine, saw a comedy of 
Brooke's, he slept during the greater part of the 
performance which lasted from seven in the 
evening till one. 

Prof. Thornydyke of Columbia writes ably on 
Ben Jonson, and concludes with the note that 
Dickens, who knew Jonson's plays " well, and 
himself acted Bobadill, must to no inconsiderable 
extent have been indebted to their suggestion." 
We do not believe this, and think it more reason- 
able to say that Jonson influenced Fielding and 
Smollett, who influenced Dickens. Prof. Saints- 
bury's two chapters on the * Life and Plays ' 
of Shakespeare and the ' Poems,' written in his 
characteristic style (incidentally he defends the 
use of neologisms), are full of good sense, and 
state briefly and lucidly the main points which 
any one attacking the question of fact and legend 
ought to consider, while largely brushing away 
that mist of probabilities or possibilities which 
critics often substitute for certainties. The infor- 
mation available, according to him, comes to very 
little, though other people think it comes to a 
great deal. The summary of the plays and their 



chronological position is excellent, while the 
critical attitude of the Professor is always en- 
lightening. In discussing ' Hamlet ' he dwells 
on the character of Claudius, a welcome change 
after the reams that have been blackened by 
studies of the prince and protagonist of the play. 
There is a useful comparison drawn between 
Thackeray and Shakespeare and their methods of 
vivifying character. Nothing much is said of the 
special sides law, classics, &c. on which Shake- 
speare has been studied ; but this is, perhaps, 
not much loss. The mastery of " trisyllabic 
substitution " in blank verse is noted as founded 
" on good principles of English prosody." It 
is also, we might add, eminently Greek. 

In the ' Plays attributed to Shakespeare ' Prof. 
Moorman finds nothing of the master, except in the 
case of ' The Two Noble Kinsmen.' The Rev. 
Ernest Walder has a succinct account of ' The 
Text of Shakespeare,' which is meritorious in the 
main as a survey of a difficult question. He 
should, however, have laid before readers the 
definite statement of Heminge and Condell at the 
beginning of the First Folio. That statement is 
remarkable in many ways as going counter to 
what we might expect, but we do not think it 
fair to disregard it, as some do, as the untrust- 
worthy advertisement of a tradesman. Mr. J. G. 
Robertson's ' Shakespeare on the Continent * 
is full of interesting detail which is little known. 
With these guides and the formidable Biblio- 
graphies the student should be well equipped to 
form a judgment on our supreme poet. 

We note a few items in this last section, where, 
of course, individual opinion must prevail, 
Tolstoy's criticism is mentioned, but not the 
actual booklet in English. Our copy is called 
' Tolstoy on Shakespeare ' (Everett & Co.), and 
includes also some fireworks by Mr. Bernard 
Shaw. In botany there is ' Shakespeare's 
Garden,' by the Rev. J. Harvey Bloom (Methuen, 
1903). We think that the late Alfred Nutt pub- 
lished a paper on the fairies of Shakespeare ; 
and there is a book on ' Shakespeare and Music ' 
(1890) by Mr. E. W. Naylor, a Cambridge man. 
We should also have mentioned the new edition 
of Mr. W. Carew Hazlitt's ' Shakespear : the 
Man and his Work ' (Quaritch, 1908). Mr. J. L. 
Haney has written on ' The Name of William 
Shakespeare : a Study in Orthography ' (Phila- 
delphia, 1906). The ' Cambridge Shakespeare/ 
edited by W. A. Neilson (Houghton & Mifflin, 
1906), is a useful one-volume edition. ' Julius 
Oaesar,' for which two commentaries only are 
given, is available in ' The Elizabethan Shake- 
speare,' edited by W. H. Hudson (Harrap). 
Swinburne's volume ' A Study of Shakespeare,' 
given as of 1880, reached a fourth edition in 1902.. 

Under ' Special Aspects ' we should add 
' Criminal Types in Shakespeare,' by A. Goll, a 
translation from the Danish by Mrs. C. Weekes 
(Methuen, 1909). ' Shakespeare's Proverbs,' by 
Mary Cowden Clarke, edited by W. J. Rolfe 
(Putnam, 1908), is an attractive collection. Bart- 
lett's Concordance is preferable to M. C. Clarke's, 
as containing notice of the actual line as well as 
the act and scene. 

W T e forbear to add more, and it is possible that 
some of the books we note have been mentioned 
and have escaped our eye. If so, it is not the 
fault of the Bibliography, which is arranged in, 
excellent subdivisions. 



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CONTENTS. No. 62. 

NOTES : Englishmen as German Authors, 161 Thacke- 
ray's Nose John Boxall, 162 Sir C. Hanbury Williams, 
Sir Woodbine Parish, and Carlyle Green Park Lodge, 163 
Berkshire Churchwardens' Accounts Anna Howe and 
Charlotte Grandison, 164 Capt. Cook Memorial Bap- 
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Alien Priories Goodbetter Smallpox and the Stars 
Shersons of Ellel Craig, 167-" Cackling clouts" " Car- 
millions " " Gainshot " " Hunnin'-pin" " Kmchie 
r< Sufflee " Physician's Cane Samuel Byrom Latin 
Hexameters Ricketts : Goodwin: Johnson, 168 Free- 
man : Beauchamp: Lawrence G. Rumney Sir W. 
Romney Romney Family Thomas Barrow, 169 Simon 
Pincerna and Westminster, 170. 

REPLIES : " Bezant," 170 Walter Haddon Adders' Fat 
as a Cure for Deafness Ear-Piercing, 171 Murderers 
reprieved for Marriage American Words and Phrases 
" George Inn " at Woburn "Had I Wist," 172-Canons, 
Middlesex -Alexander Holmes "Love me, love my dog" 
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:and Queen Caroline's Funeral Underground Soho, 173 
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de Mello " -de- " : " -ty-," 178 " Ware " Potatoes 
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NOTES ON BOOKS : Burke's ' Peerage and Baronetage ' 
'Primitive Psycho-Therapy and Quackery' 'A Good 
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ENGLISHMEN AS GERMAN AUTHORS. 

AMONG the minor German poets there are 
a fair number of English birth. These men 
are either the sons of English parents born 
in Germany or there for professional reasons 
or for purposes of study. The first of these 
Englishmen as German poets are in point of 
time three born between 1763 and 1770 
Collins, Mellish, and Sinclair. 

Collins (1763-1814) wrote Masonic songs 
.as well as other poems not published till 
after his death. As at this date the students 
.at the University of Konigsberg were in 
every faculty obliged to attend lectures on 
philosophy, Collins must have studied under 
Kant during the year he spent at that Uni- 
versity (1784-5). He seems to be the only 
one of English birth who attended Kant's 
lectures. 



Mellish (1768-1823), who at the age of 
thirty had received the title of Prussian 
" Kammerherr," lived in Weimar on a 
friendly footing with Goethe and other 
literary men in Court circles. His poems 
appeared in 1818 as ' German Poems of an 
Englishman,' with some translations. They 
have never been reprinted. 

Sinclair (1770-1815) was the son ol a 
learned Scottish baronet of some importance 
in the political world. He studied from 
1788 to 1793 in Tubingen, where he made 
the acquaintance of Hb'lderlin, the author 
of ' Hyperion,' who later dedicated two 
poems to him. It is interesting to note 
that the biographers of Holderlin do not 
seem to be aware that Sinclair, who did 
his best to help the unhappy half-insane 
poet, was a Scotchman. Sinclair is generally 
known in Germany as Isaak von Sinclair. 
He is the author of tragedies on the Huguenot 
risings in the Cevennes, published in 1806. 
Some of my information about the above 
authors I owe to Brummer's ' Lexikon der 
deutschen Dichter bis Ende des achtzehnten 
Jahrhunderts.' 

Between 1802 and 1865 were born five 
Englishmen who wrote German poems. 
The eldest of these, Charles Major-Forseyth 
(1802-1852), the son of a Scottish merchant 
captain, was born in Memel. He became a 
clergyman, and published a volume of poems 
in 1846. The second, Sir Henry H. F. B. 
Maxse (1832-83), Governor of Heligoland and 
after wards of Newfoundland, married in 1860 
a German actress. Through the influence of 
his wife he took a great interest in the 
German theatre, for which he wrote tliree 
plays, one of which, ' Louise de la Valliere,' 
has often been performed. 

The remaining three poets, Percy Andrese, 
Mackay, and Marshall, are described in 
Brummer's * Lexikon der deutschen Dichter 
und Prosaisten des neunzehnten Jahrhun- 
derts.' Of these, Percy Andreae, born in 
1858, wrote two plays ; and Marshall, born 
in 1865, published a volume of poems in 
1895 under the title of 'Einsame Blumen.' 

John Henry Mackay, born at Greenock 
in 1864, came to Germany at the age of two. 
He is a very fruitful poet and dramatist, 
besides being the author of numerous philo- 
sophical writings in defence of his stand- 
point as an individualistic anarchist. Among 
his works are translations of American and 
English poets, and a Social Democratic 
poem entitled * Arma parata fero.' In the 
history of philosophy Mackay appears 
as the editor of the minor works of Stirner, 
the individualist. 



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This list of Englishmen as German authors 
would not be complete without mention of 
Houston Stewart Chamberlain, the author of 
' Die Grundlagen des neunzehnten Jahr- 
hunderts ' and of a life of Wagner. There 
is hardly an educated German who is un- 
acquainted with Chamberlain's works. 

H. G. WAHD. 

Aachen. 

THACKERAY'S NOSE. 

THIS being the centenary of the great " M. A 
Titmarsh," no doubt many old tales will be 
raked up, memories of the gentle cynic 
whose satire was (nearly always) genial and 
full of good fun. 

About a year after his death I>as journey- 
ing northwards from London on one of the 
main railways, and as I was to have several 
hours of it, I had provided myself with 
an interesting novel, then in its zenith of 
popularity ' Vanity Fair.' My only com- 
panions in a first-class compartment were 
two nice old ladies, sisters, and during some 
hours together we had become mutually 
friendly. The acquaintance began by one of 
the ladies noticing the title of the volume I 
was reading : 

" You seem much engrossed with your book ; 
so were we when it came out first, for we knew 
the author well, and in his boyhood, when at 
Charterhouse, he often visited us in his vacations. 
He was a most charming boy, not only by nature, 
but also remarkably handsome, and, in those 
early days, noticeable by his beautiful aquiline 
features. We missed seeing him for a time, and 
then had him again for our visitor. But his 
features were so altered, we scarcely knew the 
handsome lad of former visits. We did not like 
to vex the boy, for his whole nature seemed 
changed, and we attributed it to mortification 
at the cruel injury to the main feature of his 

"One day he told us how it had happened. 
Being one of the youngest pupils, he was chosen 
by one of the older lads, a rather proud aristocrat 
in his way, to act as his fag. Thackeray bore it 
as well as he could, but demurred to some more 
arbitrary command than usual, and flatly refused 
to obey. Whereupon the young ' aristocrat ' 
caught Thackeray up, held his head under his 
arm, and, with the heel of his boot used as a 
hammer, beat the beautiful aquiline nose quite 
flat with his face ; in fact, breaking and injuring 
its structure completely the excuse being 
' You '11 clean my boots next time, sir.' " 

The lad was completely cowed ; he had 
only been in the school a short time, and had 
no friends ; so he bore the punishment, but 
it seemed to change his nature, and the 
ladies said that the cynical, satirical spirit 
so remarkable in his writings of later years, 
they always attributed to this horrible 
treatment in his childhood. 



Thackeray in later years made much fun 
of his broken nose, comparing his to Michael 
Angelo's, whose beauty had been spoilt by 
Torrigiano's mallet ; but that was a more 
dignified tool than the heel of a snob's boot. 

JOHN WABD. 

[The usual account says that Venables broke 
Thackeray's nose in fair fight.] 

JOHN BOXALL. 

BOXAI/L'S life in the ' D.N.B.' (like that in 
Mr. Gillow's ' Bibliographical Dictionary ' > 
does not seem to be quite accurate : 

"He took orders, but abstained from 

exercising the functions of his ministry during 
the reign of Edward VI." 

As to this, it appears from Dr. Frere's- 
' Marian Reaction,' p. 255, that he received 
all orders up to the priesthood in June, 1554,. 
in London. 

" On Queen Mary's accession he was appointed 
her majesty's secretary of state, dean of Ely,, 
prebendary of Winchester, and warden of Win- 
chester College (1554)." 

He did not become a Secretary of State 
before March, 1557, and was not sole 
Secretary of State before April, 1558 ; and 
he was never Dean of Ely, nor, so far as 
would appear, Prebendary of Winchester. 
Again, the ' D.N.B.' states that he was 
" appointed prebendary of York " in 1558. 
This also appears to be an error. He 
resigned the Wardenship of Winchester 
College in 1556, and the deanery of Norwich 
in 1558. These resignations are not recorded 
in the ' D.N.B.' 

On Queen Elizabeth's accession Boxall wa 
deprived of all his offices, including (it 
would seem) nine ecclesiastical preferments, 
viz., the deanery of Peterborough (to which 
he was appointed in 1557), the deanery of 
Windsor (1557), a canonry at Windsor (1558), 
the prebend of Newington in St. Paul's 
Cathedra] (1558), the prebend of Grantham in 
Salisbury Cathedral (1558), the archdeaconry 
of Ely (1556), the first stall in Ely Cathedral 
(1554), the rectory of Hatfield, Hertford- 
shire (1554), and the prebend of Ilton in 
the diocese of Bath and Wells (the date of 
his appointment to which is unknown). 
Some of these preferments find no mention 
in the ' D.N.B.,' which also omits to record 
that he was committed to the custody of 
Archbishop Parker, 2 November, 1559 1 . 
Thence he was transferred a close prisoner 
to the Tower, 18 June, 1560. His imprison- 
ment there was relaxed 6 September, 1560, 
to the extent of his being allowed to meet 
three of the other prisoners at meals. It 
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the choice of going into the custody of Arch- 
bishop Parker again or into that of Bishop 
Grinlal, and that he preferred to remain 
in the Tower. 

On 15 September, 1563, the plague then 
being prevalent in London, and it being 
thought well to remove the prisoners for 
religion from the Tower, Boxall was com- 
mitted to the custody of Archbishop 
Parker at Bekesbourne in Kent, being made 
to pay for his board and lodging. He was 
there a prisoner 3 June, 1564. In October, 
1 567, he was still in the Archbishop's custody, 
although it had been in some ways relaxed. 

In a letter to Bullinger dated 10 August, 
1571, Parkhurst writes that he " died at 
Lambeth, where also Thirlby. . . .died before 
him " ; but Parker says that he had allowed 
him to go in his illness to a friend's house in 
London, where he died. The date of his 
death is variously given as the 3rd or 4th 
of March, 1570/71. 

JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT. 



SIR CHARLES HANBURY WILLIAMS, SIR 
WOODBINE PARISH, AND THOMAS CARLYLE. 
The recent publication of ' A Life of Sir 
Woodbine Parish ' by his grand-daughter, 
the Hon. Nina Kay Shuttleworth, reminds 
me that I have in my possession an interest- 
ing volume that was formerly in the library 
of that distinguished diplomatist, and bears 
his book-plate. This volume is made up 
of extracts from the third volume of ' The 
Works of Sir Charles Hanbury Williams,' 
1822 (pp. 61-109, 208-40, and i-lxxxi), 
together with a MS. account of the Court 
of Vienna contained in a letter from Sir 
Charles Hanbury Williams to the Duke of 
Newcastle, which extends to 55 octavo 
pages. This letter is undated, but as Sir 
Charles was in Vienna in 1752, it was 
ascribed by Sir W. Parish to that year. 
The volume is prefaced by the following 
note : 

" This volume contains some Memorials written 
by Sir C. H. W ms relative to the foreign Courts 
and Countries where he was employed on H. M y ' 8 
Diplomatic Service Saxony, Poland, Russia. 

" The poems which formed the remainder of the 
publication are only remarkable for their in- 
decency, and have been cut out. 

" The MS. account of the Court of Vienna 
has never been published. W.P." 

Before the MS., which is not in the hand- 
writing of Sir Woodbine Parish, is the follow- 
ing note by him : 

" The following Despatch is copied from one 
furnished to Sir .George (afterwards Earl) Macart- 
ney on his proceeding on his Special Mission to 
Russia in 1766 in my possession. W. Parish." 



At the end of the volume the following 
letter is inserted : 

St. Leonard's, April, 1865. 

DEAR BLAKISTOX, I have long intended send- 
ing yo>j this Volume, w h contains an unpub- 
lished despatch of Sir Chas. Hanbury Williams 
to the Secy of State the Duke of Newcastle in 
1752, giving a very interesting account of the 
Court of Vienna at that time, thinking it would 
be of interest to your friend Carlyle ; but I fear 
now it will arrive too late to be of any use to him,, 
seeing that he has completed his great Work, but 
you may send it to him, and he is quite at liberty 
to take a copy of it, if he wishes for it. Yrs- 
sincerely, WOODBINE PARISH. 

Carlyle wrote the following remarks on 
the blank page of this letter : 

" I have not taken any copy: but feel greatly 
obliged to Sir Woodbine Parish for his goodness. 

"It is pity the letter were not dated ; the 
real year of it must be 1753 (not '2) ; and to 
German readers the chief novelty in it is Hanbury's 
complete mistake as to the real purposes notions 
and position of Kaunitz in regard to the matters 
handled between them. Sharp political spectacles 
on Hanbury's part, on Kaunitz's a perfect cloak of 
darkness ! T. C. (Chelsea, 11 May)." 

W. F. PRIDEATJX. 

THE GREEN PARK LODGE. So little seems 
to be known about the Deputy Ranger's 
Lodge in the Green Park that the following 
unpublished facts about it, from the Pitt 
Papers (P.R.O. bundle 139), may be useful 
to London topographers. They were written 
by Lord William Gordon, who was the 
brother of Lord George, and who had made 
the town talk by bolting with Lady Sarah 
Bunbury a few years before. Dating from 
" Green Park Lodge," 20 April, 1789, he 
wrote : 

" Lord William Gordon presents his compli- 
ments to Mr. Pitt, and sends enclosed a statement 
of his situation as Deputy Ranger of the Parks, 
and wishes very much that Mr. Pitt would take 
the first opportunity of mentioning it to his 
Majesty. Lord William begs Mr. Pitt to recol- 
lect that his Majesty was graciously pleased to 
give him a grant of the premises upwards of ten 
years ago, and Lord William would wish to 
obtain a permanent grant of the same, including 
the House, for such term of years as might be 
thought reasonable, instead of holding it on the 
present precarious terms. As Lord and Lady 
William are extremely anxious on this subject, 
they wish to know as soon as possible the result 
of the application which they flatter themselves 
Mr. Pitt will make to his Majesty on their behalf. 

" [The application :] Lord William Gordon is 
bound to pay to the Hon. Mr. Shirley 400 
per annum during the life of Mr. Shirley. In 
consequence of the above agreement Mr. Shirley 
resigned his appointment of Deputy Ranger to 
Lord William Gordon. The above arrangement 
was previously laid before his Majesty, who 
was graciously pleased to approve it. Lord 
Oxford, as Ranger, also approved it, and appointed 
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" In addition to the 400 per annum paid to 
Mr. Shirley since the agreement was made (now 
upwards of ten years), and which in any event 
must be continued to be paid during his life, 
Lord William has expended upwards of 8,000 
upon the premises. The reason for so doing and 
lor granting the annuity of 400 to Mr. Shirley 
was on the faith of Mr. Shirley's assurances that 
the Deputy Banger was never moved from his 
house and office, but which assurances Lord 
William had lately reason to think would not have 
iDeen of much avail. Under these circumstances 
Lord and Lady William Gordon natter them- 
selves Mr. Pitt will not think them unreasonable 
when they request him to state their hopes to his 
Majesty that they may receive a grant of the 
house and premises for such term of years as his 
Majesty under all circumstances may think 
reasonable. ' 

Lady William had meantime also written 
about the case on 1 April to Dundas, who 
was a great friend of her husband's sister-in- 
law the witty Jane Maxwell, Duchess of 
Gordon. I may add that a steel engraving 
of the Lodge appeared in The Lady's Maga- 
zine of the period. J. M. BULLOCH. 
118, Pall Mall, S.W. 

BERKSHIRE CHURCHWARDENS' ACCOUNTS, 
c. 1800. The following particulars are 
taken from the churchwardens' account- 
book, 1796-1847, of the parish of South 
Moreton, Berks. The most noticeable ex- 
penditure was for the destruction of sparrows 
and vermin, which in one year came to 
31. 19s. Qd. In May, 1798 (e.g.), 429 sparrows, 
or sparrow-heads, were paid for at the rate 
of 2d. a dozen ; polecats and hedgehogs 
brought 4d. each ; weasels, 3d. or 4d. ; 
stoats, 3d. ; and one " wheratt," 3d. Per- 
haps the last was a ferret, but the word 
only occurs once. (The spelling has all the 
pleasing variety of untrammelled genius.) 
No rats are mentioned. Probably these 
payments ceased when compulsory church- 
rates were abolished. 

The Holy Communion was celebrated 
four times a year, at Easter, Whitsuntide, 
Michaelmas, and Christmas, for which the 
bread and wine cost II. 2s. doubtless 
4 bottles and 4 loaves. There are entries of 
'" washing the cloths for the altar," showing 
that the last word was regarded as usual 
and proper. Sometimes " up " is written 
'" op," which is the local pronunciation to 
this day. W. C. B. 

ANNA HOWE AND CHARLOTTE GRANDISON. 
The similarity between the character of 
Anna Howe in Richardson's ' Clarissa Har- 
lowe ' and of Charlotte Grandison in his 
* Sir Charles Grandison ' has often been 
referred to by his biographers (Austin 
Dobson, 'Samuel Richardson,' p. 158, and 



C. L. Thomson, ' Samuel Richardson,' 
p. 205). Both Anna Howe and Charlotte 
Grandison treat their not very manly lovers, 
Charles Hickman and Lord G , in much 
the same free and rude way. It has, how- 
ever, not been pointed but that Richardson 
himself has called attention in an interesting 
passage to the close similarity between the 
two characters ('Sir Charles Grandison,' 
i. 341, ed. 1902). Harriet Byron writes on 
this subject to Lucy Selby : 

" Lord G appeared to advantage, as Sir Charles 
managed it, under the awful eye of Miss Grandi- 
son. Upon my word, Lucy, she makes very free 
with him. I whispered her, that she did. A 
very Miss Howe, said I. To a very Mr. Hickman, 
rewhispered she. But here 's the difference. 
I am not determined to have Lord G . Miss 
Howe yielded to her mother's recommendation, 
and intended to marry Mr. Hickman even when 
she used him worst." 

This is the only passage in the body of his 
novels in which Richardson refers to his 
own works. The difference noted by Char- 
lotte Grandison between Anna Howe and 
herself does not afterwards exist, as she 
later on accepts Lord G . 

The first one to point out the similarity 
between Anna Howe and Charlotte Grandi- 
son was Lady Mary Wortley Montagu in a 
letter dated 20 October, N.S., 1755. She 
had read the first two "tomes" of 'Sir 
Charles Grandison ' before 22 September 
in the same year. It seems that Lady Mary 
discovered for herself the similarity between 
the two characters, and was not thinking 
of the passage in Richardson quoted above. 
Anna Howe and Charlotte Grandison are 
severely condemned by Lady Mary ('Letters,' 
ii. 290, ed. 1893) : 

" His Anna How [sic] and Charlotte Grandison 
are recommended as patterns of charming 
pleasantry .... Charlotte acts with an ingratitude 
that I think too black for human nature, with such 
coarse jokes and low expressions as are only to be 
heard among the lowest class of people." 

The only expressions used by Charlotte 
Grandison which Lady Mary could have 
considered " low " are the following : 

" I '11 be hanged if Miss Byron thinks so, re- 
whispered she." ' Sir Charles Grandison,' i. 285. 

"Come, come, get us some breakfast....! 
don't choose to eat my gloves .... Hang ceremony, 
said she, sitting down first, let slower souls com- 
pliment : and taking some muffin, I '11 have 
breakfasted before these pray, madams, and pray, 
my dears, are seated." lh., i. 301. 

The various bibliographies in the works 
on Richardson do not mention Lessing's 
account of his novels, which may be read in 
Karl Lachmann's edition. Lessing did not 
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to her and Harriet Byron as " junge Frauen- 
zimmer von guter Erziehung, und munterer 
Gemiitsart " (vol. vii. p. 399). 

Some excellent remarks on the influence 
of the characters of Anna Howe and of 
Charlotte Grandison on the English novel 
are to be found in a work by Wilhelm 
Dibelius entitled * Englische Romankunst.' 

H. G. WARD. 

Aachen. 

CAPT. COOK MEMORIAL. Now that 
the long outstanding debt of Britain to its 
great sailor is about to be paid by the 
erection of his statue in the Metropolis, I 
may call to mind, as a possible stimulus to 
subscribers, the way his achievement and 
death impressed the imagination of his con- 
temporaries in England and on the Continent, 
as shown by one or two of the monuments, 
less individual than a statue, which were 
raised in England and France to comme- 
morate his voyages. That these should 
have sometimes taken the form of tombs, 
tablets, and memorials in gardens was 
in the taste of the time, which had lately 
brought to the highest pitch of poignancy 
the Sentimental Farm of Southcote at 
Woburn and the Jardin Larmoyant of 
Shenstone at the Leasowes. 

In Lord Temple's gardens at Stowe, for 
instance (where Nelson was later com- 
memorated by a seat and a walk), a monu- 
ment to the memory of Cook was erected 
on one of the small islands, in what was 
called the Grotto River. The pedestal 
supported a terrestrial globe, upon which are 
delineated the equatorial, tropical, and other 
lines, with the following inscription : 

Te maris et terrse numeroque carentis arena; 
Mensorem. 

'Twas thine to track the Ocean's endless round, 
Each distant shore and Earth's extremest bound. 
And in the die at the pedestal was inserted a 
medallion of Captain Cook in marble and 
under it a tablet 

Jacobo Cook MDCCLXXVIII. 
In the Garden at Mereville (erected by La 
Borde, and engraved in his ' Nouveaux 
Jardins de la France') was raised " Le 
Tombeau de Cook " (in macabre rivalry to the 
real tomb of Rousseau on the Isle of Poplars 
at Ermenonville), with bas-reliefs of 
savages, broken columns, and funerary 
urns ; but the monument was less truly 
a tribute to Cook than to La Borde' s two 
sailor sons, shipmates with La Perouse, 
the great French circumnavigator, who 
perished in the South Seas in 1788, but whose 
fate was only definitely ascertained in 1828. 



At Chalfont St. Giles, Admiral Sir Hugh 
Palliser, Lord of the Vache, erected a brick 
building with a pedestal in front of it to 
Captain James Cook, " the ablest and most 
renowned navigator this or any other 
country hath produced." 

It is right that Cook's statue should be? 
set up immediately after that of General 
Wolfe ; for Cook, when Master of the 
"Mercury" and not yet a Naval Lieutenant r 
took the soundings in the St. Lawrence, and 
made a chart of the river below Quebec, 
which must have materially contributed 
to the success of Wolfe's landing at the 
Cove named after him and of his victory on 
the Heights of Abraham. An obelisk, 100ft. 
high, stands upon a hill in the Park at Stowe, 
inscribed to Major-General Wolfe: 
Ostendunt terris hunc tantum Fata. 
The Fates but shew him to the world. 

February 14, St. Valentine's Day, is the 
anniversary of Cook's death in 1779. 

A. FORBES SIEVEKING. 
12, Seymour Street, W. 

BAPTISMAL SCARF. At the baptism of 
Earl Fitz William's son and heir at Went- 
worth Woodhouse on llth February we are 
told that 

" the babe was borne to the chapel wrapped 
in the famous Norman scarf presented to an 
ancestor by William the Conqueror. This scarf 
has played an important part in the christening 
of Fitzwilliam heirs for centuries. It has a, 
romantic history. An ancestor of the Fitz- 
williams was Ambassador at the Court of William 
of Normandy, and attended the Conqueror on his 
expedition to England in the year 1060. Sir 
William Fitzwilliam displayed such conspicuous 
bravery at the battle of Hastings that the Con- 
queror unfastened a scarf from his arm and pre- 
sented it to him in recognition of his valour." 
Eastern Morning News, 13 Feb. 
When Sir Robert Southwell was at Milton 
in 1684 Lord Fitzwilliam showed him 

" the antiquities of his family, amour: whom 
the last twelve have been called Williams. They 
have affected this name from William Fitzwilliams, 
who entered with the Conqueror, and being 
Marshal of the Lamp [an error for Camp] in the 
famous fight of Battle Abbey, the Conqueror 
gave him his own scarf in reward of his prowess- 
that day. This scarf they preserve sacred, and 
by custom lay it over the face of all the male 
children when christened." ' Calendar of Or- 
monde MSS.,' N.S. iv. 594 (1906). 

W. C. B. 



SNEAK. The * Century 
Dictionary ' gives a quotation from * Rode- 
rick Random ' in illustration of the meaning 
of scout as a spy, a sneak, but it would seem 
to have t been of decidedly earlier use. In 
the * Acts of the Privy Council of England, 



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Colonial Series,' vol. ii., 1680-1720, p. 607, 
is given a petition dated 25 July, 1709, of 
John Sober of Barbados, " forced to leave 
the island, his business and family, by an 
unjust prosecution forced againsMiim by the 
Governor," Mitford Crowe. In an affidavit 
Sober said that 

" he was so exasperated by the indecent and 
unbecoming manner in which the Governor 
behaved to his wife and sister that he declared 
that, though he must respect her Majesty's 
Oovernor, if Mr. Crowe had been a Private Man, 
lie would then have said he was a scout and a 
ficoundrell." 

ALFRED F. BOBBINS. 

SIXTEENTH - CENTURY RULES FOR SER- 
VANTS. In The Repository, a weekly review 
of literature, science, and belles lettres, 
published by F. Virtue, at 26, Bath Street, 
Bristol, during 1827 (18 issues only, appar- 
ently), I find a set of rules for servants in a 
sixteenth- century country house. The rules 
are stated to have been framed by John 
Harington in 1566, and renewed by his son 
John Harington in 1592, the year in which he 
was High Sheriff of Somerset. He was the 
Elizabethan poet and wit of whom an 
account is given in 'D.1ST.B.,' and Kelston, 
near Bath, was his home : 

Imprimis, That no servant bee absent from 
praier, at morning or evening without a lawfull 
excuse, to be alleged within one day after, vppon 
paine to forfeit for euery tyme Id. 

II. Item, That none swear any othe, vppon 
paine for euery othe, Id. 

III. Item, That none of the men be in bed, 
from our Lady-day to Michaelmas, after 6 of the 
clock in the morning ; nor out of his bed after 10 
of the clock at night ; nor from Michaelmas till 
our La,dy-day, in bed after 7 in the morning, nor 
out after 9 at night, without reasonable cause, 
on paine of 2d. 

V. That no man's bed be vnmade, nor fire or 
candle-box vnclean, after 8 of the clock in the 
morning, on paine of Id. 

VII. Item, That no man teach any of the 
children any vnhonest speeche, or evil word, or 
othe, on paine of 4d. 

VIII. Item, That no man waite at the table 
without a trencher in his hand, except it be vppon 
some good cause, on paine of Id. 

IX. Item, That no man appointed to waite at 
jny table be absent that meale, without reasonabel 
cause, on paine of Id. 

X. Item, If any man break a glasse, hec shall 
aunswer the price thereof out of his wages ; and 
if it bee not known who breake it, the butler shall 
pay for it, on paine of 12d. 

XI. Item, The table rmist be couered halfe an 
houer before 11 at dinner, and 6 at supper, or 
before, on paine of 2d. 

XII. Item, That meate be readie at 11, or 



XIII. Item, That none be absent, without 
leaue or good cause, the whole day, or any part 
of it, on paine of 4tf. 

XIV. Item, That no man strike his fellow, on 
paine of loss of seruice ; nor reuile or threaten, 
or prouoke another to strike, on paine of I2d. 

XV. Item, That no man come to the kitchen 
without reasonable cause, on paine of Id. 

XVI. Item, That none toy with the maids, on 
paine of 4d. 

XVII. That no man weare foule shirt on 
Sunday, nor broken hose or shooes, or dublett 
without buttons, on paine of If7. 

XVIII. Item, That when any stranger goeth 
hence, the chamber be drest vp againe within 
4 howrs after, on paine of Id. 

XIX. Item, That the hall be made cleane 
euery day, by eight in the winter and seauen 
in the summer, on paine of him that should do 
it to forfeit Id. 

XX. That the cowrt-gate bee shutt each 
meale, and not opened during dinner and supper, 
without just cause, on paine the porter to forfeit 
for euery time Id. 

XXI. Item, that all stayrs in the house, and 
other rooms that neede shall require, bee made 
cleane on Fryday after dinner, on paine of 
forfeyture of euery one whome it shall belong vnto, 
3rf. 

All which sommes shall be duly paide each 
quarter-day out of their wages, and bestowed on 
the poore, or other godly vse. 

CHARLES WELLS. 

134, Cromwell Road, Bristol. 

STICKLAC. The following appears to be 
an early instance of the use of this substance, 
as well as of the word itself. Lac, it is well 
known, is the resinous substance produced 
mainly upon the Ficus Indica, or Banyan 
tree, by the Coccus Ficus or Coccus Lacca, 
sticklac being the substance in its natural 
state. The earliest mention I find of its 
use in this country, apart from the newspaper 
quotation given below, is in Rees's ' Cyclo- 
paedia ' : 

" The price (of lac) in Dacca, in 1781, says Mr. 
Kerr, was about 12*. the hundred pounds weight, 
although brought from the distant country of 
Assam." 

But among other commodities to be sold by 
auction in 1742 (Daily Advertiser, 23 Jan. 
of that year), was " six hundred weight of 



Sticklack." 



J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. 



YEWS IN CHURCHYARDS. Some little 
time ago the subject of churchyard yews 
was discussed in ' N. & Q.' The following 
information is taken from ' Le Folk-Lore 
de France,' by P. Sebillot, iii. 406. The 
yew is the consecrated tree (Farbre consacre) 
in Breton graveyards, where ordinarily there 
is only one ; it is said that it shoots out a 
root into the mouth of each of the dead. 
In Poitou the grave-yards are in general 



before, at dinner ; and 6, or before, at supper, on in - *;*<* '"* 

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Cotentin with thorns. Not long ago apple- 
trees were still to be seen in certain grave- 
yards of High Brittany which lay round 
churches ; it was the same in Normandy, 
.and the authors of the vaux-de-vire make 
allusion to the antiquity of the custom. 

P. W. G. M. 



floras. 

WE must request correspondents desiring in- 
formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 

BETHLEM ROYAL HOSPITAL. I am com- 
pleting my ' History of Bedlam,' and should 
be glad of information from any readers 
of ' N. & Q.' I have been unable to trace 
the whereabouts of a picture by Hogarth, 
who painted the exterior of Bethlehem 
Hospital in Moorfields ; and I cannot find 
in the Museum Print-Room caricatures by 
Gillray of Fox and Burke in Bedlam 
(1784 and 1789). 

E. G. O'DoNOGHUE, Chaplain. 

" GENTLEMAN " : " ARMIGER " : " PRIVI- 
LEGIATUS." - In Foster's 'Alumni Oxoni- 
enses ' the fathers of some of the alumni are 
described as gent., of others as arm. What 
distinction of meaning is here intended 
between gentleman and armiger ? 

And what does privileciiatus mean in such 
entries as the following ? " Adee, Ed- 
mund, toiisor ; privilegiatus 18 July, 1740." 

BLADUD. . 

JFor armiger see the references cited in the 
torial note at 10 S. vii. 109.] 

HONORARY DEGREES AT CAMBRIDGE. I 
am informed that until some not very distant 
date there was a practice at Cambridge of 
conferring honorary degrees on all applicants 
who could prove a connexion or relation- 
ship, direct or collateral, with the Royal 
Family. I should be glad to learn if this was 
so in fact ; and, if so, how long the custom 
lasted, the nature of the degree, whether 
there was any special name by which such 
degrees were known, and whether any list 
of the recipients is accessible. 

ALAN STEWART. 

TENNYSON'S 'FLOWER IN THE CRANNIED 
WALL.' Where was Tennyson's poem, 
* Flower in the crannied wall,' &c., pub- 
lished ? It is quoted in Sir Norman Lock- 
yer's ' Tennyson as a Student,' &c., with 



an apparent reference to ' Amphion,' but 
it is not there. It is not mentioned in 
Brightwell's Concordance. It is quoted in 
'N.E.D.' s.v. " Crannied," but without the 
reference -a very unusual thing with the 
' N.E.D.' H. N. ELLACOMBE. 

Bitton Vicarage, Bristol. 

[The " Eversley Edition " of Tennyson (1908), 
' Poems,' vol. ii. p. 376, has a note saying : 

" [First published in 1869. ED.] The flower 
was plucked out of a wall at ' Waggoners Wells ' 
near Haslemere." 

On the other hand, according to Mr. T. J. 
Wise's ' Bibliography of Tennyson,' privately 
printed, 1908, vol. i. p. 214, the little poem first 
appeared in ' The Holy Grail, and other Poems ' 
(1870). It now appears just before the ' Experi- 
ments ' in metre. The reference in Sir N. 
Lockyer's book, " p. 240," clearly refers to the 
one- volume edition of Tennyson, and on that 
page the poem will be found.] 

ALIEN PRIORIES : THEIR CHARTTJLARIES. 
Many alien priories and similar institutions 
possessed estates in England. Presumably 
the chartularies of some, it not of all, of these 
institutions have survived and their present 
location is known. Which of these chartul- 
aries have been printed, and where in 
England may these publications be seen ? 
In regard to the English estates, they must 
contain much material for the local historian 
otherwise unattainable. 

J. HAMBLEY ROWE. M.B. 

GOODBETER : ITS LOCALITY. In a re- 
cently published Danish MS., the diary of a 
young man of science, Holger Jacobseus, 
during his European travels and studies, 
1671-92, he alludes to his visits to London 
and Oxford. From the latter he made a trip 
to Bristol, a two days' journey, through 
Farringdon and " Mecksfyld " (Marshfield ?), 
where he mentions stopping for the night at 

Goodbeter," some village, evidently, in 
Berkshire or Wiltshire. What place-name is 
hidden under this form ? W. R. PRIOR. 

SMALLPOX AND THE STARS. A seventeenth- 
century poet wrote a poem to one suffering 
Tom smallpox, comparing the pock-marks 
stars and constellations. What is the 
reference ? A. S. P. 

SHERSONS OF ELLEL CRAIG AND LAN- 
ASTER. Can any correspondent of 'N. & Q.' 
refer me to books (such as county histories or 
other antiquarian works) in which there is 
mention of this family ? They were at one 
ime hereditary constables of the Castle of 
Lancaster, I believe. They intermarried 
with the Nowells of Read. I want informa- 
ion before the eighteenth century. I know 



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the 4 History of Whalley.' Are there anj 
Shersons living in Lancaster now or in anj 
part of the County Palatine ? I shall be 
grateful for any notes on the family, as ! 
have not the opportunity to make persona 
investigations on the spot. 

E. STUABT SHERSON. 
39, Victoria Street, Westminster, S.W. 

" CACKLING CLOUTS " occurs in Ford's 
'Vagabond Songs and Ballads,' Second 
Series, p. 175 : 

Forth spake the mither when she saw 
The bride and maidens a' sae braw, 
" Wi' cackling clouts, black be their fa', 
They've made a bonnie cast o't." 

" CARPILLIONS " occurs in ' Poems in 
English, Scotch, and Gaelic on Various 
Subjects,' by John Walker, farmer, Luss, 
1817, p. 89: 

Whan storms come rattlin' frae the east, 
An' wife an' wee things apt to dozen, 
We're oft obliged to stop a lozen, 
An'carefully collect some rullions. 
Like hose, or breeks, or auld carpillions, 
Without regard to mode or form, 
But just to screen us frae the storm. 

"GAINSHOT" occurs in Sir T. Dick 
Lauder's ' Moray Floods of 1829,' 3rd ed , 
pp. 316-7 : 

i!, The north Esk . overspread the large bleach 
field at Craigie Mills, which was covered with 

cloths and yarn, rose to the height of 3 feet in 

the mill, and, if it had not been for a rampart 
raised by the people at the gainshot, by risking 
their lives, the whole works might have been swept 

n.\xrniT T^Vn-k >-w /- v * J ,-.4-,-, j J_T T ^ . 



away The proprietor measured* "the^height 

; the gainshot of the mills, and found 



of the water at cue ^UJIISHUL 01 i/ne mnis, an 
jt 7 feet 2 inches above the ordinary level." 

" HUNNIN' PIN " occurs in Lauder, on. cit , 
p. 100: 

" I then teuk for the grun', an' drappit down 
on a wee bit spat [i.e. spot], where I fand an auld 
cupple log, which Hugh had bought for fire. I 
heezed it up. There was a hunnin' pin in't, and 
that was like a stap, an' sae I gat a' doon, praised 
be the Lord ! " 

" KINCHIE " occurs in James Ogg's 
Glints i' the Gloamin ' (1891), p. 41: 
" Hi ! Bodkin, what cheer ? " 
Said the Kinchie wee man 
Wi' a comical kin' o' leer.. 

" SUFFLEE " occurs in Isaac Brown's 
Renfrewshire Characters and Scenery,' 
reprinted in Motherwell's ' Poetical Works'' 
1881, p. 3 : 

''Mr. Brown was a manufacturer of Lappets, 
Suffices, and Foundations or. as ordinarv 
people would call him, a Muslin Manufacturer." 

May I ask information as to the meaning 
of the above words ? ALEX. WABRACK 

Oxford. 



PHYSICIAN'S CANE. I understand that 
down to about the beginning of the last 
century physicians, when visiting patients, 
suffering from infectious diseases, carried 
with them, as a safeguard against con- 
tagion, walking-sticks in the hollow heads 
of which was cotton wool saturated with 
Marseilles vinegar or other antiseptic. Can, 
any of your readers, therefore, say whether 
the stick in my possession is a genuine 
" physician's cane " ? It is a hazel with a 
natural round head. This is hollowed out, 
and at the bottom are several perforations. 
Over these holes (in the inside of the cavity) 
is a piece of gauze, and also inside near the- 
top are two perforated brass discs. The lid 
or plug is a well-fitting circular piece of wood, 
with a round hole in the centre. 

JOHN LINN. 
Kirkliston, West Lothian. 

SAMUEL BYROM was the author of ' An 
Irrefragable Argument, fully proving that 
to discharge Great Debts 5^ less injury and 
more reasonable than to discharge Small 
Debts,' 1729. Is anything known of him 
besides what can be gleaned from this 
pamphlet ? G. F. R. B. 

LATIN HEXAMETERS BY MACHINERY. 
From a volume of American essays published 
in 1867 I extract the following extraordinary 
passage : 

" Twenty years ago [1847] there was exhibited in 
London a machine which made excellent Latin 
hexameters. The unfortunate inventor had spent 
thirteen years in perfecting 'The Eureka,' as he 
called it. It actually ground out hexameters lik* 
hose of Virgil." 

I remember as a boy watching the famous 
'* Automaton " at the Crystal Palace playing 
;hess against all comers. Was this verse- 
making machine constructed on similar 
ines ? Are there any records of its doings 
extant ? M. L. R. BRESLAR. 

RICKETTS : GOODWIN : JOHNSON. Capt. 
William Ricketts of Bluefields Fort, Jamaica, 
m. Mary, dau. of Goodwin, and grand- 
daughter of Sir Francis Goodwin of Winchen- 
don, Bucks, by his wife Elizabeth, dau. of 
Sir Arthur, 14th Baron Grey de Wilton, 
K.G. 

Mrs. William Ricketts, nee Goodwin, d. 16 
April, 1750 (not 1758, as stated in Burke's 
Commoners ' and ' Landed Gentry '), being 
hen aged 96. 

Her dau. Rachel m. Thomas Johnson, 
^/ieut. R.N., and had issue an only surviving 
on Jacob Johnson of Springfield, Jamaica. 

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of London and Walthamstow, but had 
tradition that they were of the same family 
as Sir William Johnson, Bt., created 1755 
The latter family, however, is known to hav< 
sprung from a branch of the O'Neills o 
Ulster. 

I shall be glad if any of your readers can 
help me to substantiate the alleged Good 
win descent of Mrs. William Ricketts, anc 
also aid me in tracing the ancestry o 
Thomas Johnson, R.N. 

ERSKINE E. WEST. 

Cowper Gardens, Dublin. 

FREEMAN : BEAUCHAMP : LAWRENCE. 
In the reign of Charles I. were living two 
conspicuous members of the Freeman 
family, bearing the same Christian name 
and title : 

1. Sir Ralph Freeman of Aspeden, co 
Hertford, Clothworker, was Lord Mayor oj 
London 1633. His elder brother William 
had been chosen Sheriff at the same time 
with himself, but, excused for ill-health, died 
1623, aged 68. Ralph's only child and heir. 
Jane, married Sir George Sands of Lees Court, 
Throwley, Kent. 

2. Sir Ralph Freeman, Master of the Court 
of Requests, and Master of the Mint, was 
seised in 1619 (as I learn from a deed in the 
Brooking-Rowe Bequest to Exeter Public 
Library), together with William Freeman 
and Ralph Freeman, all of London, Esquires, 
in a fulling mill (i.e., cloth factory), messuage, 
and land, in Buckfastleigh, Devon. A " Sir 
Ralph Freeman of London," according to 
Risdon, " lately had a lease " of the manor 
of Ashburton in the same county. 

In 1600 Martin Freeman, citizen and Fish- 
monger of London, and Christopher Freeman, 
of Heigham Ferrers, co. Northants, sold the 
manor or mansion-house of Flaunchford in 
the parishes of Reigate and Buckland, 
Surrey, with lands, messuages, &c., lying in 
the parishes and hamlets of Reigate, Buck- 
land, Horley, Leigh, and Betchworth. 

" Shortly after " 1631, Samuel Freeman 
11 of Mailing " (near Maidstone, Kent) went 
to New England. He is supposed to have 
been a brother of Edmund Freeman, born 
about 1590, who, leaving his mother resident 
in Reigate, went over in 1635, was co-founder 
of Plymouth Colony, of which he became 
assistant governor in 1641, and a large land- 
owner in Sandwich, Cape Cod. He was 
" a man of consideration in England," 
"brought with him much valuable plate," 
and "presented the colony with twenty 
corselets or pieces of plate -armour." He 
acted, it is said, as confidential agent of the 



Merchant Adventurers, and corresponded 
with Mr. John Beauchamp, a London 
merchant who had married Edmund's sister, 
and who lived (at any rate for a time) with 
the motiher in Reigate. In 1649 Beauchamp 
wrote to Edmund's son-in-law in New 
England notifying him that he was " sending 
out Cloth and Bibles" to him, and mention- 
ing "my brother Coddington " and "my 
brother William Freeman." 

While not wishing to trouble any one for 
references to standard printed works, I 
should be glad to learn of any modern com- 
pilations or private records that might yield 
connecting links between the above-named 
persons, or between them and the Lawrence 
family, through whom one of the Sir Ralphs 
is found to be descended from progenitors 
of the George Washington. 

ETHEL LEGA-WEEKES. 

G. RUMNEY, OR ROMNEY, RECUSANT. 

Wanted the parents, wife, and children of 
George Rumney or Romney, recusant, 
mentioned in Westmorland and Cumber- 
land (Queen Eliz.), and of St. Clement Danes 
parish, London (James I.), when an order 
was made for his property to be estreated 
into the Exchequer, 1611. What property ? 
Was Lancelot Romney of Yanwath, West- 
morland, his brother ? 

George Romney' s cousin was Andrew 
Hilton, recusant and martyr, of Burton in 
Warcop, whose mother was Anne, dau. of 
Gilbert Wharton, or Isabel Barton of Orms- 
head (Ormside), Appleby. A cousin of 
Hilton's was the Rev. James Warcop, and an 
uncle Rev. Nich. Pulleine. MRS. LAW. 

SIR W. ROMNEY, LORD MAYOR. Are any 
descendants living of Sir William Romney, 
Haberdasher, Lord Mayor of London, who 
died 1611 ? His son William (also knighted, 
[ think) married Margaret Bo water, and 
lad a son William, a little boy in 1633. The 
Lord Mayor's grandfather Robert Romney 
was of Tetbury, Gloucestershire. Who were 
lis parents ? MRS. LAW. 

ROMNEY FAMILY AND LORD LIFFORD. 
'n 17 a Romney is said to have been 
brother to Lord Lifford. How was this ? 

MRS. LAW. 

THOMAS BARROW, ARTIST. Are any 
descendants living of Thomas Barrow, 
artist ? He lived last at Southall, Middle- 
sex, and died, I think, about 1820. His 
daughters were Mrs. Kennal and Mrs. Ann 
Walker. MRS. LAW. 

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SlMON PlNCEBNA AND WESTMINSTER. 

Hals in his ' History of Cornwall ' states that 
Henry III. granted Lanherne in Cornwall 
to Simon Pincerna " in consideration that he, 
the said Simon, had enfeoffed the. said King 
Henry with the lordship and manor of St. 
James at Westminster." 

Is anything more known of this trans- 
action, and if so, where can I find an account 
of it ? Where may I find genealogical 
particulars of this Simon Pincerna and his 
forbears ? J. HAMBLEY ROWE, M.B. 

[Much information concerning the Pincernas 
is supplied at 10 S. ii. 90-92.] 



" B E Z A N T." 
(11 S. iii. 107.) 

THE Bezant was a popular festival formerly 
held on Monday in Rogation week in the 
town of Shaftesbury, so ancient that no 
authentic record of its origin exists. It was 
a formal acknowledgment on the part of the 
mayor, aldermen, and burgesses of the 
borough to the lord of the manor of Mit- 
combe, of which Enmore Green forms part, 
for the permission to use the water of that 
hamlet. No charter or deed exists among 
the archives of the town as to the com- 
mencement of the custom, neither are there 
any records of interest connected with its 
observances beyond the details of the 
expenses incurred from year to year. On 
the. morning of Rogation Monday, the mayor 
and aldermen, accompanied by a lord and 
lady appointed for the occasion, and by 
their mace bearers carrying the Bezant, 
went in procession to Enmore Green. 
The lord and lady performed at intervals 
as they passed plong a traditional kind of 
dance to the sound of violins ; the steward 
of the manor meeting them at the green, 
the mayor offered for his acceptance, as the 
representative of his lord, the Bezant, 
a calf's head uncooked, a gallon of ale, 
and two penny loaves, with a -pair of gloves 
edged with gold lace, and gave permission 
to use the wells for another year. The 
steward, having accepted the gifts, retaining 
all for his own use except the Bezant, 
which he graciously gave back, accorded the 
privilege, and the ceremony ended in a 
dinner given by the Corporation to their 
friends. 

The Bezant itself said by Hutchins to 
be worth as much as 1,500Z. consisted of a 



decorated trophy, round which were hung 
ribbons, flowers, &c., fastened to a frame 
about 4 ft. high, ornamented with jewels, 
coins, c., lent by persons interested. 

By the town and the manor passing into 
the same hands in 1830 the practice ceased. 
The ancient borough, through the liberality 
of the Marquis of Westminster, is now sup- 
plied with water taken from an artesian 
well sunk for the purpose. (See ' The Book 
of Days,' vol. i. p. 585 ; Hutchins, ' History 
of Dorset,' 1803, vol. ii. p. 425 ; ' Brit. 
Popular Customs, Past and Present,' T. F. 
Tbiselton Dyer, 1876 Bonn's Lib.) 

As to the origin of the word 'Bezant there 
seems much doubt. It is thought that 
possibly an ancient gold coin of that name 
may originally have been tendered to the 
lord of the manor. Could it have any con- 
nexion with the offering by the kings of 
England at the Sacrament, or at festivals 
so called? See * Oxford Eng. Diet.,' under 
" Bezant." Bezaunce is an obsolete form of 
beisance or obeisance. 

An alternative account can be found in 
Brand's ' Popular Antiquities' (Bolin, 1853), 
quoting 'Travels of Tom Thumb,' p. 16, 
in which the garland is described as a 
" prize besom," and the manor to which 
the acknowledgment is made is referred 
to as " Gillingham." Perhaps the original 
form of the word was besom, in which case 
its derivation would need no explanation. 

F. W. BAXTEB. 

The * E.D.D.' describes this as follows : 

" The name of a ' trophy,' and of a festival 
held in the town of Shaftesbury, or Shaston, 
on Monday in Rogation week. The Bezant was 
an acknowledgment on the part of the Borough 
to the Lord of the Manor of Mitcombe for the 
permission to bring up water for use from the 
hamlet of Enmore Green. The festival sadly 
degenerated, and in the year 1830 ceased al- 
together. The ' Bezant ' which gave its name 
to the festival consisted of a sort of trophy 
constructed of ribbons, flowers and peacock's 
feathers, fastened to a frame, about four feet high, 
round which were hung jewels, coins, medals, 
&c., lent for the purpose." 

It refers to the 'Book of Days,' i. 585. It 
also adds : 

" This use of ' bezant ' for an offering may be 
compared with its use for the name of a certain 
offering made by the Kings of England at the 
Sacrament or at festivals, and by French Kings at 
their Coronation." 

The ' N.E.D.' derives it from Byzantium, 
where it was first struck as a gold coin 
" seemingly identical with the Roman 
solidus, or aureus" It was current in 
Europe from the ninth century, but was 



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superseded in England by the noble, a coin 
of Edward III. It was used by Wyclif to 
translate both the Latin words talentum 
and drachma. A quotation from E. Cham- 
berlayne (1667) is : " The gold offered by the 
King at the Altar, when he receives the 
Sacrament, is still called the Byzant." 

ERNEST B. SAVAGE, F.S.A. 
St. Thomas', Douglas. 

[Replies also from W. B. H., J. H. M., L. S., C. C., 
H. J. B. C., W. C. B., E. A. F., and M. C. L.j 



WALTER HADDON (11 S. iii. 128). Walter 
Haddon (1516-1572) was a fairly well- 
known personage in the reigns of Ed- 
ward VI., Mary, and Elizabeth. By the last- 
named he was appointed Master of Requests, 
an Ecclesiastical Commissioner, and Judge 
of the Prerogative Court. In his earlier 
days he had been Regius Professor of Civil 
Law at Cambridge, and had held in succession 
the Mastership of Trinity Hall and the 
Presidency of Magdalen College, Oxford. 
His life by the late Mr. Thompson Cooper 
fills nearly six columns in the ' D.N.B.,' 
and there is a long list of his works and of the 
authorities for his life in ' Athenae Cantabri- 
gienses,' where will be found the inscription 
on his monument in Christchurch, Newgate 
Street, as it existed before the great fire. 

His * Lucubrationes ' and * Poemata ' were 
collected and edited by Thomas Hatcher 
in 1567. On p. 46 of the present volume 
of ' N. & Q.,' I identified a Latin line written 
in a Cambridge MS. as being taken from a 
poem of Haddon's. EDWARD BENSLY. 

" Gualterus Haddonus " is, of course, " Dr. 
Walter Haddon, one of the finest Learning, 
and of the most Ciceronian stile in England," 
as Strype says in his * Life of Sir Thomas 
Smith,' p. 200 in the edition published in 1698. 
Haddon was the friend of Sir John Cheke, 
Sir Thomas Smith, Roger Ascham, and other 
famous men of Tudor times. To Ascham' s 
' Toxophilus,' printed in 1545, ' Gualterus 
Haddonus Cantabrigiensis ' contributes a 
Latin poem of ten lines in which he praises 
the author and his book. A list of his works, 
mostly written in the then " universal lan- 
guage," is given in Lowndes's * Biblio- 
grapher's Manual of English Literature ' 
(Pickering's ed., 1834). 

JOHN T. CURRY. 

For a full account of the above see 
* Dictionary of National Biography ' 
(original edition), vol. xxiii. p. 429. 

A. R. BAYLEY. 



ADDERS' FAT AS A CURE FOR DEAFXESS 
(US. iii. 69, 117). Whether this specific 
for deafness has the support of antiquity 
or not, there is no doubt that the belief, 
mentioned at the last reference, in prepara- 
tions from the viper as remedies for snake- 
bite is a very old one. See Pliny's ' Natural 
History,' Bk. xxix., ch. 4, 69, foil., where 
he mentions a method of boiling down vipers' 
fat in oil. Jeremy Taylor reminds us of the 
change of " theriacum " into a homely 
English word when, in his sermon on ' The 
Christian's Conquest over the Body of Sin,' 
he writes : " Non solum viperam terirmLS, sed 
ex ea antidotum conficimus ; we kill the 
viper, and make treacle of him ; that is, not 
only escape from, but get advantages by 
temptations." Readers of ' Lavengro ' will 
remember the old viper-hunter in chapter iv. 
who tells Borrow : "I hunt them mostly for 
the fat which they contain, out of which 
I make unguents which are good for various 
sore troubles, especially for the rheumatism." 
EDWARD BENSLY. 

At the first reference the man killing 
adders is spoken of in the present tense as 
still carrying on operations on the line from 
Tunbridge Wells to Brighton. In the second 
reference a correspondent relates how a man 
was similarly employed near the same locality 
about sixty years ago. Jesse's ' Gleanings 
in Natural History,' first published about 
1835, corroborates the second statement. 
The author says : " When I was lately at 
Brighton, I met with a man who employed 
himself in summer in catching adders, the 
fat of which he preserved and sold as a 
sovereign remedy for hurts and swellings." 
Is there anything hereditary in this employ- 
ment ? SCRUTATOR'S adder-killer cannot 
possibly be the same person that Jesse speaks 
of. O. 

EAR- PIERCING (11 S. iii. 149). As to 
ear-piercing in boys for initiatory rites I 
know nothing, but from long experience 
in hospital work I can state that many 
cases have come before me in which the ears 
have been pierced for the cure of chronic eye 
disorders especially phlyctenular ophthal- 
mia and blepharitis. The procedure may 
not be wholly superstitious, because the 
slow healing of the wounded ears, likely to 
occur in such patients, might conceivably 
benefit the eyes or eyelids by acting as 
does a seton or blister. More scientific 
remedies have quite discredited setons, but 
fifty or sixty years ago these \\ere commonly 
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was in the habit of putting a silk seton 
behind the ears in the cases above men- 
tioned, and with the watching and attention 
required made large fees by this treatment 
so much so that he said " his life was hang- 
ing on a thread " ! GEORGE WHERRY. 
Cambridge. 

I believe it is still a custom among men 
and women in the South of Europe (Italy 
and Spain) to wear ear-rings and to have the 
ears pierced for the purpose. In Hungary, 
I remember it was the jeweller who performed 
the operation on baby girls when supplying 
the first earrings. L. L. K. 

MURDERERS REPRIEVED FOR MARRIAGE 
(11 S. iii. 129). I have never heard of any 
particular town where murderers were 
reprieved for marriage, but when a boy I 
remember hearing these lines : 

A murderer mounted in a cart 

Was going to be hanged ; 
Reprieve to him was granted 

And the crowd and cart did stand. 
He was asked if he would marry a wife, 

Or otherwise choose to die. 
" O why should I torment my life ? " 

The culprit did reply ; 
" The bargain's bad in every part, 

But a wife's the worst, drive on the cart ! " 

JOHN BAVINGTON JONES. 

Was this supposed custom confined to any 
particular town, and was it not essential 
that the woman should be a virgin ? 

MichaeU. Susan, being a maide 

May begge me from the gallows of the shriefe. 

Alice* Trust not to that, Michaell. 
MichaelL You cannot tell me, I have seen it. 

' Arden of Faversham,' I. i. 167-70. 

Here the custom was evidently known at 
Faversham in Kent. And in Marston's 
' Insatiate Countess,' iii. 3 (scene Italy) : 

Abigail. Well, we will bring them to the gallows, 
and then, like kind virgins, beg their lives. 

Bullen has a note at p. 190 of the third 
volume of his edition of Marston in which 
he refers to Plutarch's life of ' Numa.' 

I am not aware that English law was ever 
cognizant of such customs. 

P. A. McELWAINE. 

AMERICAN WORDS AND PHRASES (11 S. iii. 
48). The unterrified. Though I am unable 
to answer MR. THORNTON'S question as to 
who first applied this term to the demo- 
cratic party, I can at least show that it 
was in use in 1840. In The Atlas, a Boston 
paper, of 4 Sept., 1840, a paragraph about 



the election in Vermont is headed " The 
Unterrified Green Mountain Boys' Respond- 
ing " (p. 2/2). And in the same paper of 
12 Nov., 1840, p. 2/3, a letter ends as follows : 
** And if any of the ' unterrified democrats * 
can answer this question it would confer 
a particular favor on a Real Hard Ciderite." 

ALBERT MATTHEWS. 
Boston, U.S. 

"GEORGE INN" AT WOBURN (11 S. iii. 
147). Woburn, Bedfordshire, was my home. 
It consists of four streets, which meet at 
the Market Place. At the angle of Park 
Street and George Street, there stands a 
large inn, which was famous in posting days, 
and was called immemorially " The George.'* 
The name was changed to " The Bedford 
Arms " before 1853, when I was born ; 
but I remember that, when I was a child, 
the old inhabitants still called it "The 
George." G. W. E. R. 

"HAD I WIST" (11 S. iii. 129). This 
phrase cannot possibly have been the name 
of an Anglo-Saxon bogy, since fchere is 
nothing Anglo-Saxon about any of its three 
component parts. It is true that the O.E. 
adjective gewiss survived in M.E. as iwis 
sometimes erroneously spelt / wiss, as if it 
were the pronoun I with a verb wiss, but 
wist or iwist as a past participle does not 
occur before the M.E. period, the O.E. 
past participle being witen. The use of this 
phrase, which means "if I had known," 
as a noun not as a proper name seems 
to have been introduced by Gower in his 
* Confessio Amantis ' for it is from this poem 
(i. 105) that the ' N.E.D.' quotes the earliest 
instance. 

I do not remember and cannot very well 
ascertain whether the phrase occurs as a 
proper name in ' Piers the Plowman,' a most 
likely place for such an expressive name ; 
if it does, Gower may have been indebted 
for it to Langland or whoever else may 
have been the author of the poem popular 
in Gower's days. The fact that the ' N.E.D.' 
does not mention ' Piers ' as the source, 
makes it very unlikely, though. 

To the ' N.E.D.' quotations, which show 
some variety of spelling had I wist, hadde-y- 
wyste, had I wyst, hadiwist, may be added 
the title of a poem in the ' Paradise of Dainty 
Devices,' Beware of Had-I-Wyst and the 
following line from the well-known passage 
describing a " suters state " in Spenser's 
'Mother Hubberd's Tale,' "to sue for 
had ywist, that few have found, and manie 
one hath mist ! " J- F. BENSE. 



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CANONS, MIDDLESEX : " ESSEX " AS 
CHRISTIAN NAME (US. ii. 328, 374, 394, 
437, 534 ; iii. 92). In the ' London Marriage 
Licenses ' (Foster's edition) are at least four 
instances of " Essex " used as a female 
Christian name: Col. 130, "Richard Bynns 
and Ef.sex Ingram (Spinster), 1687." Col. 
420, " James Drax and Essex Lake (Spinster), 
1662/3." Col. 948, " Sir Roger Mostyn and 
Lady Essex Finch (Spinster), 1703," Col. 
1085, " Hon. John Poulett and Essex Pop- 
ham (Spinster), 1663." DIEGO. 

Lodge's ' Peerage ' gives, under the title of 
Baron Mostyn, " Hon. Essex, born 22 Oct., 
1833." E. L. H. TEW. 

Upham Rectory. 

ALEXANDER HOLMES, 1848 (US. iii. 70). 
A copy of The Times for 1848 can be seen, 
I believe, at the Advocate's Library, Edin- 
burgh. The Catalogue of the Library would 
lead one to infer as much. Another copy 
may be seen at Glasgow in the " Stirling's 
and Glasgow Public Library." Files of the 
journal are no doubt preserved at the British 
Museum, but in a building, I understand, 
apart from the Library. SCOTTJS. 

" LOVE ME, LOVE MY DOG " (11 S. ii. 522 ; 
iii. 51, 113). The St. Bernard about whom 
MR. MACMICHAEL asks is St. Bernard of 
Clairvaux. The words immediately follow- 
ing those quoted are 

<l Nos vero, o beati Angeli, catelli sumus Domini 
illius, quern tanto affectu diligitis ; catelli, inquam, 
sapientes saturari de micis, quae cadunt de mensa 
dominorum nostrorum, qui esbis vos." 

This proverb is traced back at least as 
early as the first half of the eleventh century. 
In enlarged editions of the ' Adagia ' (e.g., 
1629, p. 776) the proverb " Qui amat me, 
amat et canem meum " is, with others, such 
as " Qui nimium festinat, caldum edit," dis- 
tinguished from those that have come down 
from antiquity. EDWARD BENSLY. 

"No GREAT SHAKES" (11 S. iii. 129). 
At 5 S. viii. 184 the following appeared in a 
note on this subject: 

"In California a shake is a large-sized shingle for 
roofing buildings, and, taking it in that sense, the 
slang expression becomes perfectly clear, and indi- 
cates that a poor bargain, or a person or thing of 
little account or value, is in the same relation to a 
good one that a shingle is to a shake. The distinc- 
tion between a shake and a shingle probably still 
exists in the shingle -using counties of England, 
and was doubtless formerly exported thence to 
America." 

Admiral Smythe's explanation seems less 
probable. He says it is a term expressing 



little value, and derived from the taking 
to pieces of a cask and packing up the parts, 
which are then termed " shakes " (' Sailor's- 
Word-Book ' ). J. HOLD EN MACMICHAEL. 

ORDINARIES or NEWGATE (11 S iii. 86). 
After the attempt to secure the appoint- 
ment of Silas Told in Oct., 1773, 1 have come 
across no reference to the successor of the 
Rev. John Wood as Ordinary of Newgate 
until 8 February, 1774, when, according to- 
The London Magazine, p. 97, of that year, 
the Rev. John Villette was elected to the 
post by the Court of Aldermen. 

HORACE BLEACKLEY 

COL. OAKES AND QUEEN CAROLINE'S 
FUNERAL (11 S. iii. 69). The Monthly 
Magazine for 1821, pt. ii. p. 138, states that, 
upon the people commencing to barricade 
Edgware Road, a party of Horse Guards 
charged, and were received by volleys of 
stones, upon which a boy officer fired his 
pistol and shot an inoffensive man, when the 
troops began a general firing, by which 
another innocent man was killed and many 
wounded. 

This could hardly refer to Oakes, who 
was then Brevet-Major. He was promoted 
to the rank of Major 6 Sept., 1822, and to 
that of Lieut. -Colonel 25 Jan , 1823, and 
appears to have been placed on the half -pay 
list on 12 June, 1823. However, in January, 
1832, he again appears on the active list as 
Major and Lieut. -Colonel of the 2nd Life 
Guards, but he resigned the same year. 

He married 1 March, 1828, at St George's, 
Hanover Square, Sophia Charlotte, dau. of 
Edward Fletcher, of Park Street, by whom he 
had issue. F. M. R. HOLWORTHY. 

UNDERGROUND SOHO (11 S. iii. 127). 
This subterranean passage evidently only 
crosses the north-east corner of the square. 
If its direction was west to east it might have 
been a means of communication between the 
first and second Carlisle House situated 
respectively in King's Square Court (now 
Carlisle Street) and on the site of St. Patrick's 
Chapel. Or was it used for some sinister 
purpose by Mrs. - Comely 's guests ? Sir 
Walter Besant, who worked up the local colour 
of his novels by actual observation, knew 
nothing of it. When Jenny's house is 
besieged by "the company of Vengance " 
(' The Orange Girl,' chap, xiii.), she escapes 
by stepping out of the garden gate into 
Sutton Street. Of the wine cellars in 
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originally belonging to some of the larger 
houses common to this neighbourhood. 
There could be no occasion for William III. 
to stable his horses here underground when 
the King's Mews at Charing Cross were more 
convenient for Whitehall or St. James's 
Palace, and infinitely more suitable. 

ALECK ABRAHAMS. 

PYRRHUS'S TOE (11 S. iii. 89, 131). 
This query has already been fully and 
satisfactorily answered by PROF. BENSLEY 
and other correspondents, but I wish to raise 
& side-issue with regard to textual readings. 
In the first edition of ' Hydriotaphia,' 
published in 1658, Sir Thomas Browne says : 
*' How they made distinct separation of 
bones and ashes from fiery admixture, hath 
found no historical solution. Though they 
seemed to make a distinct collection, and 
overlooked not Pyrrhus his toe." In the 
" Came lot Classics " edition of Browne's 
* Hydriotaphia,' edited by Mr. J. A. Symonds, 
London, 1886, the concluding words ot 
Browne's sentence are expanded into 
'*. . . .overlooked not Pyrrhus his toe which 
could not be burnt." 

Where did Mr. Symonds obtain his reading? 
Or are the words, " which could not be 
burnt," meant to be an interpolation inserted 
in the text for the purpose of explaining the 
allusion to Pyrrhus's toe ? Surely Mr. 
Symonds would never have done that. 

S. W. S. 

THE STAIR DIVORCE, 1820 (US. ii. 489; 
iii. 74). The new ' Scots Peerage,' iii. 414, 
states, under " Dysart " (Laura, youngest 
daughter of Louisa, Countess of Dysart, 
and John Manners), that the marriage 
'referred to "was annulled in June, 1820, 
by the Lords of Session in Edinburgh." Has 
MR. J. M. BULLOCH, in making his research, 
kept in mind the facts that in June, 1820, the 
sixth Earl of Stair was alive, and that his 
successor bore no courtesy title, but was 
simply John William Henry Dalrymple ? 

B. B. 

Manila. 

' DEATH OF CAPT. COOK '(US. iii. 87, 132). 
John Darley, born at Birmingham in 1765, 
his parents' only child, emigrated with his 
father to America about 1790, and first 
appeared on the stage there in 1794. He 
subsequently joined the United States Navy, 
and rose to be lieutenant of Marines. In 
1800 he retired from the Navy, married 
Eleonora Westry, an actress, and returned 
to the stage, appearing at the Park Theatre, 



New York, on 20 July, 1801. He was a 
good singer, and played Frenchmen and 
walking gentlemen well. He died at Phila- 
delphia, U.S.A., in 1853. His youngest son, 
Felix Octavius Carr Darley, born 1822, 
died 1888, was an eminent artist and 
engraver ; the emblematic figures for Ameri- 
can bank notes were designed by him, and 
his illustrations of numerous American 
authors were much admired. 

The Gentleman's Magazine contains the 
following records : 

1794, November 1, the marriage of Mr- 
Darley to Miss Sadler, both of the Lincoln coin" 
paiiy of comedians. 

1809, June IB, the death at age of 58 of Mr. 
Darley, formerly well known as a vocal per- 
former at Vauxhall and Covent Garden theatre. 

Doubtless this was the Darley who 
appeared at Covent Garden in the ' Death of 
Capt. Cook ' in March, 1789. MB. WM. 
DOUGLAS in his reply (11 S. iii. 132) states he 
was a native of Birmingham, and went to 
America in 1799. Is there not some con- 
fusion between this individual and John 
Darley the actor who died at Philadelphia 
in 1853 ? 

Was there any connexion between Darley 
the actor of Covent Garden and Vauxhall 
and James and Mathew Darly of 39, 
Strand, the well-known publishers of carica- 
tures between 1766 and 1773 ? 

H. S. GUINNESS. 

Stillorgan, co. Dublin. 

SPIDER'S WEB AND FEVER (US. ii. 109, 
194 ; iii. 96). Of the spider Paracelsus 
says (I quote from a " faithfully Englished " 
version of his ' Dispensatory,' by W. D., 
published 1656) : 

" The Spider is a hateful creature, yet it is of 
great vertue against Quotidian feavers : put the 
spider in a nut-shell, and shut it up close in it, 
and let the diseased person carry it about him, 
but he must not know what it is ; let him carry 
it four dayes, and he shall be well." 

The spider never had a place in our 
official materia medica, but it seems to have 
been more esteemed in France. Lemery, 
in his ' Traite Universal des Drogues 
Simples,' says it is esteemed 
" pour les fievres interminantes & particuliere- 
ment pour la fievre quarte, tant ecrasee & 
appliquee au poignet, ou etant enfermee vivante 
dans une coquille de noix & attached au cou & 
1' entree de 1'acces." 

The web he describes as " vulneraire, 
astringente, consolidante," and recommends 
it for stopping blood and other purposes. 
I quote from the edition of 1723. 

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SIR WALTER RALEIGH AND TOBACCO 
(US. ii. 489 ; iii. 34). It was old ale and 
nutmeg not small beer that traditionally 
extinguished Raleigh's quiet smoke. The 
story as related in ' The British Apollo ' is 
quite clear on this point : 
" and generall indulg'd himself in Smoaking 
secretly, two pipes a Day ; at which time he 
order'd a Simple Fellow, who waited, to bring 
him up a Tankard of old Ale and Nutmeg, alway 
laying aside the Pipe, when he heard his servant 
coming." 

The story is correctly epitomized in the 
late Mr. W. Niven's ' Selections from 
" The British Apollo," ' 1903, p. 92. 

ALECK ABRAHAMS. 

The incident is given in the Rev. I. Taylor's 
* Scenes of British Wealth in Produce, 
Manufactures, and Commerce, 1825,' pp. 
69-70 : 

"It was from the North American Indians we 
took the fashion of tobacco smoking. Sir Walter 
Raleigh when Virginia was first discovered, brought 
some over. The first time he smoked it M'as in 
private. He had called his servant for a jug of 
water ; when the man brought it in, he saw smoke 
coming from his master's mouth, and naturally 
supposing he was on fire, he as naturally threw the 
jug of water over him, to put it out." 

The illustration attached depicts the servant 
in the act. WM. JAGGARD. 

" VAIL " : ITS USE BY SCOTT (US. iii. 86, 
131). Messrs. A. & C. Black may probably 
care to know that the copy of the ' Talis- 
man ' to which I referred is dated 1879 
and bears their own imprimatur. It has 
" veiled not their bonnets" in chap, xxiv., 
and " I will not veil my crest " in the ballad 
of ' The Bloody Vest,' chap. xxvi. Surely 
the publishers do not mean to imply that the 
reading in the latter case is that which the 
author intended. THOMAS BAYNE. 

INSCRIPTIONS IN CHURCHES, &c. (11 S. 
ii. 389, 453, 492, 537 ; iii. 57, 97). I am 
glad to learn where the jocular comment 
on the tombstone inscription beginning "As 
I am now," &c., is to be found, for I have 
known it many years, only my version 
ran : 

To this by no means I consent 
Unless I know which way you went. 

H. A. ST. J. M. 

PARISH FORMATION (US. iii. 88). Some- 
thing about the origin of parishes will be 
found in Fosbroke's ' Encyclopaedia of 
Antiquities,' 1843, s.v. ' Obsolete Ecclesiasti- 
cal Matters,' vol. ii. p. 799 ; in Cowel's 
' Interpreter ' ; and in Walcott's ' Sacred 



Archaeology. ' No doubt also Smith and 
Cheetham's 'Diet. Christ. Antiq.' would 
afford further information, and Blackstone's 
' Commentaries,' but my copy has gone 
wrong in pagination. 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 

"STICK-IN-THE-MUD" (11 S. iii. 106). 
This expression is commonly in use at the 
present day in Somerset and other parts of 
the West of England, and is generally 
applied to a man who is slow in movement or 
in business. Its equivalent is " slow-coach," 
which is also frequently used. C. T. 

BIBLIOGRAPHY OF FOLK-LORE (11 S. iii. 
7). With regard to the promised " Biblio- 
graphy of Folk-Lore by Thomas Satchell " 
to be issued by the Folk-Lore Society, 
one can but echo the query of MR. GERISH, 
" When will the project be realized ? " 
Something has evidently prevented the 
fulfilment of the thirty-years-old promise. 
Towards the end of last century, a series of 
papers on the 'Bibliography of Folk-Lore,' 
written by Sir G. L. Gomme, appeared 
in The Folk-lore Record. This looks as if 
the projected work, announced in 1879, had 
been abandoned by the publishers, Mr. 
Gomme's bibliography has never, I believe, 
been issued in book form. W. S. S. 

GRATIOTJS OR GRACINES STREET = GRACE- 
CHURCH STREET (11 S. iii. 149). Accord- 
ing to Hobben's ' London Street Names ' 
the present name dates from the rebuilding of 
the church after the Great Fire. Stow says 
it was named Grass Church originally from 
the parish church of St. Benet from the herb 
market there kept. Since that time it has 
been called Grasse Street, Grastreet, and 
Gracious Street. 

WlLLOUGHBY MAYCOCK. 

It is quite likely that Grace church Street 
was called Gracious Street long before 
The Nine Worthies of London,' 1592. Its 
earliest known spelling will, no doubt, 
account for "Gracious." This was " Gras 
church " or " Graschurche." Richard le 
Coidewanere of Grascherche was, in the 
thirteenth year of Edward II., 1320, hauled 
over the coals for making shoes of unlawful 
material ('Cal. Letter - Book E' of the 
City of London). Again, in Letter -Book 
F, Ed. III., 1347, John de Burstalle is 
accused cf fraudulently enhancing the price 
of wheat in the corn-market at " Gras- 
chirche." Then again (Letter Book G, 
46 Ed. III., 1372), blacksmiths are ordered 
to send their work into the open market of 



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" Graschirche." This was to prevent their 
selling " false work " in a hole-aiid-cornei 
way by wandering about the city or suburb. 
It is well known that Grass-Church Street 
was the original form because of the herb- 
market kept there (Stow) ; but there was, at 
the beginning of the eighteenth century, a 
Gracious Alley in Wellclose Square (W. 
Stow's ' Stranger's Guide '), known pre- 
viously (Dodsley's 'Environs') as Grace 
Street. Also, later, in Lockie and Elmes. 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEI.. 

FAIRFAX: SAYBE : MAUNSELL (11 S. 
iii. 88). Perhaps the information desired 
is to be found in ' Original Memoirs of Sir 
Thomas Fairfax,' written by himself daring 
the Great Civil War, printed by Hargrove 
& Sons, and S3ld by them at Knaresborough 
and Harrogate, also by Longman, Hurst & 
Co., London, Wilson & Son, York, and other 
booksellers, 1810, duodecimo ; ' The 
Families of Ga soigne and Fairfax,' by Wm. 
Brailsford, in The Antiquary, May, 1884 ; 
' A Collection of Autograph Letters, written 
by various eminent persons of the ancient 
and noble family of Fairfax ' (fifty-two 
of these are de3cribed in Thomas Thorpe's 
' Sale Catalogue of Manuscripts,' 1831, 
pp. 136-9) ; Whitaker's * Leeds ' (Fairfax of 
Walton) ; ' Fairfax Wills of Norfolk and 
Suffolk ' (Northern Genealogist, 1895, vol. i. 
p. 49) ; ' Fairfax Wills at Carlisle,' p. 92, 
ibid. ; and at Worcester, ib., p. 946. See also 
' Analecta Faiifaxiana,' a manuscript on 
vellum, consisting of historical, genealogical, 
and other collections and records relating to 
the various branches of the family of Fairfax 
preserved in the family down to the present 
time, illustrated by drawings of arms, &c. 
J. HOLDEN MACMICHAEL. 

KEATS, HAMPSTEAD, AND SIB C. W. 
DILKE (11 S. iii. 145). Excellent as this 
impending endowment of the Hampstead 
Public Library with Keats relics appears, it 
has many serious disadvantages, and for 
lovers of the poet generally it would be 
preferable to see the gift diverted to the 
British^ Museum. The Branch Library 
near Keats Grove may be appropriate by 
sentiment for such memorials, but it is 
unfitted in every other sense and circum- 
stance. MB. CECIL CLABKE will, I am sure, 
realize that local library committees are, 
as at present constituted, not suitable 
custodians of relics of national interest, and 
the administration generally at Hampstead 
has not given evidence of exceptional 
fitness. So in the event of the bequest 



being diverted to the British Museum, there- 
will result a loss to the few at Hampstead 
and a gain to the world generally. 

ALECK ABBAHAMS. 

LEADEB OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS 
(11 S. iii. 108). The title "leader of the 
House of Commons " cannot well go further 
back than 1680 or thereabouts, when 
members of Parliament became separated 
into two distinct divisions. The two divi- 
sions were at first termed Addressers (or 
Petitioners) and Abhorrers, but these name& 
were soon merged into the better-known 
titles of Whigs and Tories. Curiously 
enough, the Whigs are said to have been 
originally far better organized and dis- 
ciplined and more obedient to their leaders 
than were the Tories. As a party cannot 
well exist and prosper without a leader, it 
is probable that the recognized head of the 
Whigs or Tories, in power at the moment, 
became known for the time being as the 
" leader of the House of Commons." Pos- 
sibly the title originated in the time of 
Queen Anne. Sir Robert Walpole seems a 
likely enough person to have been so dis- 
tinguished. S. S. 

ABSINTHE-DBINKING : ITS OBIGIN (11 S. 
iii. 149). : I remember being told in Paris, 
some time in the seventies, that absinthe 
was then used by the French troops in 
Algeria as a febrifuge; also, that they could 
not drink the water of the country with 
safety unless they added the bitter draught 
to it. These troops were further credited 
with introducing the "mazagran" (or large 
glass-full of light coffee without milk) into 
France. This drink was held to be a pro- 
tection from malaria. DUBLINEB. 

AMPHISBJENIC BOOK (11 S. iii. 89). An 
instance of an amphisbaenic book is a pam- 
phlet or book entitled " The Great Question : 
Tariff Reform or Free Trade ? By L. M. S. 
Amery." Turn the book upside down, and 
begin at the other end, and you find a 
different cover, a title-page bearing the 
title " The Great Question : Free Trade or 
Tariff Reform ? By J. M. Robertson, 
M.P.," and a fresh book. This work was 
published in London, 1909. LANGABUS. 

Out of many thousands of volumes that 
I have handled at different times I can only 
recall two specimens of the kind of publica- 
tion referred to by Q. V. One of these was 
a " Staff Kalendar " with " Supplement," 
somewhat similar to that described in the 
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book, issued by Marcus Ward & Co., London, 
entitled ' The Anchor : The Haven,' by the 
author of 'Morning and Night Watches.' 
Scripture texts with appropriate pieces of 
poetry were given for every morning for 
a, month. In the inverted order the evening 
was similarly provided for. Each of the 
portions (morning and evening) of the 
booklet numbered 75 pp. respectively. U. 

WATER SHOES FOB WALKING ON THE 
WATER : GEORGE F. PARRATT (11 S. ii. 485 ; 
iii. 77). The initial letter F. should be 
inserted before Parratt. The exhibition of 
*' life-saving " inventions of which I wrote 
(ante, p. 77) took place, I think, at least 
25 years ago. 

I think that the s.s. Castalia, in her early 
days running between England and France, 
ceased to be a small pox hospital several 
years ago. In my note I ought to have 
made it plain that Parratt was not the in- 
ventor of the indiarubber boat with the 
stocking legs. His only invention, exhibited 
on the occasion referred to, was the pontoon 
life-boat, which drifted helplessly away and 
was towed back by an ordinary life-boat, 
which was in attendance. 

ROBERT PIERPOINT. 

PHIPPS OR PHIP FAMILY (11 S. iii. 49). 
According to Coates, in his ' History of 
Reading,' a token was issued by Thomas 
Phipps (see p 460), " A man dipping candles, 
Thomas Phipps of Redding 1652 T. P -E." ; 
and at p. 445 there is an account of Sir 
Constantine Phipps, stating " there is a 
tradition that he was born at Reading." 

R. J. FYNMORE. 

LEA WILSON'S COLLECTION or BIBLES 
{11 S. iii. 88). Mr. Lea Wilson printed a 
limited number of copies of his " Collection 
of Bibles " for presentation to his friends. 
If I remember aright, 150 copies in all were 
printed, some of which were offered for sale. 
I have no note of his collection having ever 
been dispersed, and cannot tell what has 
become of it. Of the three editions of the 
Psalms mentioned in the query, that printed 
At Middelburg in 1599 finds a place in 
Cotton's " Editions of the Bible," but is there 
only named as being in the Lea Wilson col- 
lection. The two Scottish editions, by 
Rabon of Aberdeen and Hart of Edinburgh, 
appear among " Books printed in Scotland 
before 1700," but the author, Mr. Aldis, 
Apparently derives his information from 
the Lea Wilson catalogue, and does not 
state where copies of them may now be found. 

S. S. W. 



AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (11 S. 
iii. 147). The " Scot " of MR. W. E. WILSON'S 
first quotation must, I think, be George 
Buchanan, the work referred to being his 
' De Jure Regni apud Scotos ' (1579). With 
regard to the " Jesuit " here meant, Juan 
Mariana's ' De Rege et Regis Institutione ' 
(1599) seems to have gained great notoriety 
(Hallam, ' Literature of Europe,' Part II. 
chap. iv. section ii. 37). 

EDWARD BENSLY. 

The Jesuit was probably Juan Mariana 
(1536-1624) and the Scot John Knox (1505- 
1572), but I regret I do not know who is 
the author of the lines. 

JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT. 

But his little daughter whispered, 

As she took his icy hand, 
44 Isn't God upon the ocean, 

Just the same as on the land ? " 

These lines form one of the six stanzas of a 
poem called ' The Tempest,' by James 
T. Fields. DAVID SALMON. 

Swansea. 

There are various versions of the lines 
quoted by G. C., which are attributed to 
Philemon Holland. See ' A Translator 
Generall ' in Mr. Charles Whibley's ' Literary 
Portraits,' p. 157: 

"The translator's son informs the world that 
Plutarch's ' Morals ' all fell upon paper from one 
quill, while Aubrey prefers to believe that it was the 
Livy which was thus honoured. Whichever be the 
truth, the story is found in all the books of anec- 
dotes, further embellished with a quatrain, more 
curious than accomplished. Thus it runs : 

4 This booke I wrote with one poore Pen 

Made of a grey Goose Quill ; 
A Pen I found it us'd before, 
A Pen I leave it still.' " 

Fuller, * Worthies of England,' ' Warwick- 
shire,' writes : 

" Many of his books he wrote with one pen, 
whereof he himself thus pleasantly versified : 
4 With one poor pen I writ this book, 

Made of a grey goose quill ; 
A pen it was when it I took, 
And a pen I leave it still.' " 

For conflicting accounts of the after history 
of this pen Mr. Whibley's entertaining essay 
may be consulted. EDWARD BENSLY. 

[MR. W. NORMAN and MR. J. T. PAGE also thanked 
for replies.] 

"LET US GO HENCE, MY SONGS " (11 S. 

iii. 128). This is the opening of ' A Leave- 
taking,' by Swinburne, * Poems and Ballads,' 
Book I. p. 60 (ed. 1873). 

REGINALD HEWITT. 
Selkirk. 

[S. W. also refers to Swinburne.] 



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VOLE'S 'LES ABBIVANTS ' (11 S.,iii. 
). Probably chemin de table ouvrage 
should be rendered " embroidered table- 
centre." One meaning of chemin is a long 
and narrow carpet laid on the parquet of a 
room, or vestibule, from one door to another. 
See ' Dictionnaire de la Langue Franaise 
abrege du Dictionnaice de E. Littre, 1886.' 
The narrow ornamental cloth laid along the 
middle of a dinner table is not unlikely to 
bear the same name. M. P. 



Sm ROBERT PEEL AND HIS SPEECHES 
(11 S. iii. 107). So far as our knowledge of 
the public and private life of Sir Robert Peel 
goes, there is nothing, in the practice attri- 
buted to him, in any way inconsistent with 
his known character as a Christian gentleman. 
At the same time the story can hardly be 
received with entire confidence, inasmuch as 
it is claimed on behalf of others. Many years 
ago it was my lot on one occasion to be pre- 
sent at a small private gathering of Liberals, 
when the self-same story with certain modi- 
fications was told as characteristic of Lord 
Beaconsfield. The relation, it is true, 
was not received with unquestioning faith, 
but at the same time it seemed to awaken 
in those who heard it every symptom of 
lively satisfaction. May I be pardoned for 
saying that such stories are perhaps not 
altogether in good taste as they savour too 
much of unwarrantable intrusion into the 
sacred relations subsisting between a man 
and his 'Maker ? Moreover, they are, I fear, 
in many instances pure fabrications, told 
for a certain purpose, or at best with but a 
slender basis of fact to rest upon. The pride 
shown by one political party over the 
eminent religious character of its. leader is 
apt to stimulate in the opposite side a 
spirit of emulation, and a keen desire to 
prove (in popular phraseology) " our man 
as good as theirs." It all looks a little 
childish, and reminds one of the two little 
boys in Barrie's ' Sentimental Tommy' 
contending for the relative superiority of 
London and Thrums. " There ain't no 
queens in Thrums, anyhow " an indis- 
putable fact, but met with the triumphant 
retort " There's the auld licht minister." 

TOE REA. 

DBYDEN AS A PLACE-NAME (11 S. iii. 
68, 137). At the time of writing I have not 
access to my original query on the above 
subject. I intended, however, to suggest 
not that the place-name Dryden was derived 
from a family of that name which had come 
from England, but thatjfcthe ancestors of 



John Dryden, the poet, who were settled in 
Cumberland, were of Scottish origin and 
derived their surname from a Scottisli place- 
name. I know of no early instances of the- 
family name of Dryden, nor of any instances 
of the place-name Dryden, in England. 
John Dryden (great-grandfather of the poet) 
who appeared in Northamptonshire in the 
first half of the sixteenth century, is stated 
to have been a son of Daniel (or David) 
Dryden, of Staffe Hill, co. Cumberland, and 
grandson of William Dryden of Walton, 
in the same county. This John Dryden 
was a man of substance, and in his will he 
directs that his arms and those of his wife,. 
Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John Cope, should 
be engraved on the brass to his memory. 
I can offer no suggestion as to the reason of 
John Dry den's removal into Northampton- 
shire. He seems to have possessed property 
there, part of which is described as " parcel 
of his inheritance." I am much obliged to 
F. H. S. and MB. W. SCOTT for their infor- 
mation. P. D. M. 

DOM FBANCISCO MANUEL DE MELLO 
(11 S. iii. 107). Sir William Temple had 
conversed with him, though the date of 
their meeting is not given. 

" I rememb~er Don Francisco de Melo, a Portugal 
Ambassador in England, told me, it was frequent in> 
his Country for Men spent with Age or other 
Decays, so as they could not hope for above a Year 
or two of Life, to ship themselves away in a Brazil 
Fleet, and after their Arrival there to go on a great 
Length, sometime of twenty or thirty Years, or 
more, by the Force of that Vigour they recovered 
with that Remove."' Of Health and Long Lite/ 
in ' Miscellanea,' part iii. vol. i. p. 273 in 1750 edition- 
of Temple's Works. 

Lamb used this passage in his essay on 
c The Genteel Style in Writing.' 

EDWABD BENSLY. 

"-DE-" : " -TY- "(US. iii. 108). I cannot 
answer this query, but I am much interested 
in it as it refers to a name which has puzzled 
me for some time. There is a pit or pond 
on the west side of the Isle of Waliiey,. 
Lancashire, which is called the Lamitysike 
Pit, and the adjoining fields are known as 
Lamity Closes. In the deeds relating to 
these the name is variously spelt Lamity, 
Lamentea, Lamenty, Lamentia, and Lam- 
berty. What is the meaning of this name ? 
A sike is a marshy stream, but further I 
cannot get. 

At the same place (and in others in the 
north of England) is a field called Toad Pot, 
sometimes written Yoad Pot or T'yoad 
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A curious instance of the result of phonetic 
spelling arises in the name of a field adjoin- 
ing Toad Pot. It is called on the plans 
Taper Close and called locally Tappa Cleas. 
Being a rectangular enclosure, inquiries led 
to its being found to have been originally 
Toad Pot Close, i.e., T'yoad Pot Cleas, and 
so to T'yd-pt-cleas, and'finally Tappa Cleas, 
which the plan drawer got finally to 
Taper Close. H. G. P. 

"WARE" POTATOES (11 S. iii. 109). 
The ' E.D.D.' gives the following definition 
under " Ware " : 

" (6). Potatoes are usually classed in three sizes, 
the largest being called ' ware,' the next ' middlings,' 
and the smallest ' chats.' " 

This use of the \\ord is recorded from 
West Middlesex and Kent. 

ERNEST B. SAVAGE, F.S.A. 

S. Thomas', Douglas. 

Ware potatoes mean the best or large size. 
When potatoes are properly graded they are 
divided into three sorts ware, middlings, 
chats. At times in a fruitful season a few 
monstrous ones ere thrown on one side, and 
termed bakers. These ere the ones that &ro 
baked and sold in the street at night 
" all hot." We also hear of ware or large 
asparagus ; the small in that case is called 
sprue. 

An old form of invoice used in 1847 
shows the use of the terms. 

W. W. GLENNY. 

Barking, Essex. 

" THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR "(US. iii. 109). 
Washington Irving was not quite original 
in the use of this phrase. Farquhar in his 
' Recruiting Officer,' acted at the Theatre 
Royal, 1705, uses the similar phrase 
" Almighty gold " (Act III. sc. ii.). 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 

JULIA PASTRANA (11 S. iii. 29, 94). 
An interesting account of this person in life, 
and after death, is given in Frank Buck- 
land's 'Curiosities of Natural History' 
Fourth Series, pp. 40 et seq. R. B. 

Upton. 

JAMES JANEWAY (11 S. iii. 129). The 
following may afford a clue, James Jane way 
was curate of Great Mongeham, Kent, in 

1705, and was succeeded by Edward Lloyd, 

1706. (' Arch. Cant.,' vol. xv. p. 358). 
James Janeway, A.M., rector of Wootton, 

Kent, 4 Feb., 1712, obt. July, 1739. In the 
chancel is a memorial to him. He was also 
by dispensation rector of Aldington, Kent, 
June, 1708-39 (Hasted's 'Hist. Kent,' 



vols. viii. and ix.). At 3 S. vi. 41 there is a- 
Mr. Jeunaway mentioned in a diary of Sir 
John Knatchbull 14 Dec., 1688/9, in con- 
nexion with James II. and Faversham. 

R. J. FYNMORE. 
Sandgate. 



0tt 



A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage- 
and Baronetage, <$cc. By Sir Bernard Burke 
and Ashworth P. Burke. (Harrison & Son. ) 
IN his introduction to this year's ' Peerage ' Mr. 
Ashworth Burke lays stress on the three principal 
features affecting his subject during the past 
year : (i.) the demise of the Crown ; (ii.) the 
proposed reform of the House of Lords ; (iii.) the 
proper safeguarding of the status of the Baronet- 
age. He adds a fitting eulogy on the late King, 
and a tribute to our reigning Monarch, also a 
word of sympathy with our Queen on the death. 
of her brother, and an anticipation of the glories 
of the coming Coronation. Most of this matter 
is, of course, public property, but the recom- 
mendations as regards the future of the baronetage 
are not generally known, and should be of special 
interest to those concerned. The Royal Warrant 
for an authorized Roll of the Baronetage is printed 
in full on page 2467. 

The obituary list of Peers for 1911 numbers 
16 titles, and of these two become extinct (viz., 
Avonmore and Borthwick). Of Baronets, 40 
have died and 6 titles become extinct. 

We pass to a few criticisms of this excellent 
book of reference, which we find on the whole the 
most ample and accurate of its species. 

We think the guide to Relative Precedence 
both useless and unintelligible. It must cost 
somebody a great deal of time and labour to 
prepare it year by year ; after half -an -hour's 
study we failed to understand why the Arch- 
bishop of Canterbury is 993, Mr. Asquith 995A, 
Sir Samuel Walker, Bart., 996, and the Duke of 
Norfolk 1,000, while the Duchess of Fife is 3, the 
Duchess of Argyll 10, and the Duke of Connaught 
has no number to his name at all. Jerbai, the 
son of an Indian magnate, has 62,675 affixed to 
his name, without taking into consideration 
sisters or brothers, uncles or aunts of the same 
rank. W T e should like to see this section of the 
book replaced by an ordinary Index containing 
each name and a page reference. It would be 
more useful and less complicated. The services 
of the expert concerned with Relative Rank 
might, we think, be usefully devoted to the 
checking of the coats of arms with their blazons, 
as we notice several slips in this respect upon a 
casual survey. Mr. Burke does not yet give us 
his authority for the creation of the Viscounty of 
Suirdale in the Donoughmore family, to which 
we called his attention last year. This is, we 
presume, due to the principle of accepting what 
is regarded by families themselves as trustworthy 
a principle, perhaps, inevitable in the circum- 
stances. 

Here our grumbles must cease, and it only 
remains to congratulate Mr. Burke upon the 
great labour he must have bestowed on this 
valuable book of reference and upon the results 
he has achieved. 



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Primitive Psycho- Therapy and Quackery., By 
Robert M. Lawrence. (Constable & Co.) 

T.e monde n'a jamais manque des charlatans, 
And the chronicles of charlatanry will always 
liave an interest as illustrating a curious phase 
of human nature, the willingness to be deceived 
(vitlt decipi) which has ever been characteristic 
of the populace. 

Mr. Lawrence is able to show by abundant 
proofs that healing by suggestion has at all times 
played an important part in therapeutics, and 
has brought together some curious instances of 
similar mental epidemics. He points out, too, 
the sad truth that it is by no means amongst 
the lowest and least cultured classes of the 
community that quackery finds its victims. 
'There is no place where the quack thrives and 
battens more vigorously than in New York. 

Mr. Lawrence makes no pretensions to original 
research, but has been industrious in consulting 
cyclopaedias and special treatises from which he 
has compiled many curious facts. As to the origiu 
of the name quack-salver, the full form of the 
word, he gives some improbable conjectures. By 
:all analogy this ought to mean one who salves 
-(or cures) a quack, which is an old synonym for 
.a catarrh or a cold ; but it is commonly inter- 
preted to mean, in defiance of its formation, one 
-who quacks (as if puffs) his salves. We cannot 
endorse all the author's view on the derivations 
of words. If laudanum is "a contraction of 
laudandum, something to be praised " (p. 218), 
-what becomes of the Greek ledanon 1 It is 
tempting, of course, to understand " carmina- 
tive," from carminare, as meaning to cure by 
charms (carmina) or incantations (p. 122). But 
those who know say that carminare here is from 
carmen, a wool- carder, with the idea, of smoothing 
out or extenuating gross humours. On the 
whole, it is a sincere book and good for the 
times. 

THE CLARENDON PRESS has puoiisned A Good 
Fight : the Original Version of ' The Cloister and 
the Hearth,' with a witty introduction by Mr. 
Lang. It is an interesting member of a specially 
interesting " Library of Prose and Poetry " half 
forgotten in many cases, but in no case deserving 
oblivion. The modern, and, we fear, hurried 
reader has been known to turn up his nose at 
this book, but we have no sympathy with him if 
he fails to see the great and moving qualities of 
Reade's work. Whether it is good scholarship or 
not is another point, on which Mr. Lang dwells, 
perhaps, somewhat too lightly. But, after all, one 
does not need to be an authority on Erasmus, 
or even to have read his ' Colloquia,' to enjoy 
' A Good Fight.' The book is immortal, and does 
not belong to the special library -of learning. 

The Newspaper Press Directory (C. Mitchell 
& Co.) is as usual full of the latest information 
relating to the Press. Apart from the complete 
and accurate list of papers and publications 
issued throughout the world, there are statistics 
of the trade of our various Colonies and Depen- 
dencies, most of these showing considerable 
increase of trade with the United Kingdom. 
Accounts of British productions in India are not so 
favourable. Printed books in 1908 amounted to 
226,1 1QL, but in 1909 amounted to only 214,965*., 
while many other articles showed a far more 



serious diminution, notably woollens and worsteds, 
which in 1908 amounted to 1,009, 1121. t and in 
1909 fell to 760,9402. It is remarkable how level 
beer and ale remained ; in 1908 the amount was 
279,459*., in 1909 279,698*. The classified list 
of publications is interesting as indicating the 
tastes of the people. Anti-tobacco only supports 
one organ, but it is a ' Beacon Light,' 'while that 
" naughty foreign weed " supports six journals. 
The love for the comic does not diminish, for the 
list shows an increase of one ; our Colonial 
interests have also one more organ ; motoring 
requires one more paper, and needlework has one 
less. The growing interest in philately is shown 
by an increase of three journals ; theosophy shows 
an increase of one ; brass band journals have 
increased by two, and literature is represented 
by three less than in 1910. 

There are articles by Mr. Alfred F. Robbinson 
' Newspaper Ideals and Individualities : a Retro- 
spective Review ' ; J. R. Charter writes on ' The 
Advertising Field To-day,' and Dr. Hugh Fraser 
on ' The Legal Year in its Relation to the Press.' 
The obituary record includes Mr. Arthur Fraser 
W'alter of The Times, Sir William Agnew of 
Punch, and Frederick Greenwood, founder of 
The Pall Mall Gazette, and others, of whom 
excellent portraits are given. 

The Writers' and Artists' Year-Book, 1911 
(Black), explains clearly and briefly what editors 
want. We wish it the widest circulation, and 
cannot conceive why freelances on the press con- 
tinue to worry papers with unsuitable articles 
when this little book, which costs ouly a shilling, 
would save them their futile effort in the sending 
of unsuitable matter. Stupidity of this sort is still 
common^and editors have so much of their time 
wasted that they all owe a word of thanks to- 
Messrs. Black for this publication. 



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CONTENTS.-No. 63. 

NOTES : William Chalmers of Fintray and Fastemburg, 
181 First Perforated Postage Stamps ' Lucrece ' and 
'The Passionate Pilgrim,' 183 Jordan not a Type of 
Baptism, 184 Winchester Measures and Bottles The 
Confession of Louis XVI., 185 Last Mail Coach Veneti : 
Venetians Indexes Locorum to Printed Parish Registers 
Longevity Forwardal Peter Mundy, 186. 

QUERIES : Mozart's Works Ancient Horn J. C. Le Blon 
The Magpie's Death Queen Elizabeth's Statue in Royal 
Exchange Gondola Prow 'Big Ben' and Phil May- 
Unicorn on Royal Arms " To the West ! " Gallows 
Bank: Mathew Cockling, 187 Edward Jarrett Dr. 
Johnson of Warwick Charles Joye Thoresby Pedigree 
Charles Bridgman Anderson : Simpson : Dickson : 
Baillie : Gordon-Jenner, of Widhill, Wilts, 188-Cousin 
of Boswell Walter R. Benjamin Rice for the Complexion 
Burning of Moscow Remarkable Echoes " Royal 
Blue" Omnibuses Dutchmen in Pembroke Lieut. -Gen. 
Richard Hamilton Atrebatum Richard Baddeley, 189. 

REPLIES : Lady O'Looney's Epitaph, 190-Milton on 
Plagiarism" Cruel of heart were they "Earliest Tele- 
graphy, 191 Holwell Family Knots in Handkerchiefs- 
William Elmham, 192- Scottish Titles conferred by 
Cromwell Vanishing London Court Life Henry 
Gataker Warwick Lane, 193 Physician's Cane 
"Teapoy" Moving Pictures Roeites of Calverton 
Count of the Holy Roman Empire, 194 Rebecca and her 
Daughters Murderers reprieved for Marriage Samuel 
Byrom, 195 Authors Wanted Keats, Hampstead, and 
Dilke Benjamin Garlike Mew or Mewes Families 
American Words and Phrases, 196 Newenham Abbey- 
Napoleon Print John Hudson, 197. 

NOTES ON BOOKS :-' Dumfries and Galloway Notes 
and Queries ' ' A Book of Light Verse ' ' Fragrance 
Among Old Volumes ' ' The West Riding of Yorkshire ' 
Reviews and Magazines. 

Booksellers' Catalogues. 
Notices to Correspondents. 



WILLIAM CHALMERS OF FINTRAY 

AND FASTEMBURG. 

(See 11 S. i. 267, 337, 393.) 

THROUGH the kindness of several corre- 
spondents (notably of the Very Rev. P. 
Boyle, College des Irlandais, Paris), I have 
been able to get together some facts about 
this Aberdeenshire William Chalmers, who 
figures prominently in the theological con- 
troversies of his day. Accounts of him, 
which to some extent supplement each 
other, are to be found in Moreri, Dupin, 
and P6rennes's edition of Feller ; but it 
may be as well to put on record what I have 
discovered about his works from other 
sources. 

His family connexion was not known to the 
late Mr. A. M. Munro, the historian of the 



Chalmerses ; but the year of his birth is given 
as 1595, and in 1616 he was at the Scots 
College in Rome (' Records of Scots Colleges,' 
i. 105). The register states : " Fecit jura- 
mentum 13 Martii ; discessit 1618 ; in- 
gressus deinde Societatem Jesu." His 
writings, however, are not included in 
Backer and Sommervo gel's monumental 
work, though he is mentioned in vol. vi. 
p. 1527. Indeed, he appears to have left 
the Order in 1625, and to have entered the 
Congregation of the French Oratory founded 
by Pere Berulle. 

He was teaching philosophy in 1624 in 
the College at Chalons-sur-Marne, and in 
1629 in the College at Angers, whence he 
seems to have had his doctorate in canon 
law. At a later date he was teaching 
theology in the College at Saumur and was 
doctor in divinity. According to Feller 
he survived to 1678. 

His works are now of exceptional rarity. 
Of several I have been able to trace only 
single copies in different libraries. Two I 
have not yet located. The titles are as 
under : 

1. Gulielmi Camerarii Scoti, Congregationis 
Oratorii Domini Jesu presbyteri, Selectae disputa- 
tiones philosophic, in tres partes distributee. 
Pars prima, praecipuas disputationes Logicae et 
Moralis Philosophise complectens. (Pars secunda, 
praecipuas disputationes totius Physicae complec- 
tens ; Pars tertia, preecipuas disputationes 
Metaphysicee complectens.) Parisiis, apud Caro- 
lum Chapellain, via Signaria, prope Scholas 
medicas ad insigne D. Barbaras. 1630. St. 
Andrews University Library ; Angers Town 
Library. In the prefixed Letters of Approba- 
tion, dated 1629, Chalmers is styled " in Andina 
Universitate Philosophies professor." A copy of 
the same book in the Cambridge University 
Library has the first part dated 1537 (sic). 

2. Ad universam Aristotelis Logicam Intro- 
ductio. Andegavi, 1632. Given by Perennes. 
No copy located. 

3. Sanctorum Patrum Augustini, Fulgentii et 
Anselmi Monimenta theologis et concionatoribus 
utilissima nunc primum ex vetustissimis manu- 
scriptis eruta, ad [sic] adnotationibus illustrata, 
studio et opera R. Patris Gulielmi Camerarii Scoti, 
Congregationis Oratorii Domini Jesu presbyteri 
et sacrae theologiaB professoris. Parisiis, apud 
Fiacrum Dehors in Monte Divi Hilarii 1634. 
Bibliotheque Nationale. 

4. [The same.] Parisiis, apud Sebastianum 
Hur, via Jacobaea. 1634. Bibliotheque Mazarine. 

5a. Eugenii Philadelphi Romani [i.e. Francisci 
Annat] Exercitatio scholastica tripartite, contra 
novam rationem, tuendi physicas prsemotiones 
liberorum agentium eorumque libertatem expo- 
nendi quam auctor operis De libertate Dei et 
creatxiree [i.e. Gul. Gibieuf] nuper inyexit. . . .Cum 
appendice ad Guillelmum Camerarium, Scotum. 
Cadurci, ex typographis loannis d'Alvy, 1632. 
Cambridge University Library. This work called 
forth No. 5. 



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6. Antiquitatis de novitate victoria, sivc justa 
defensio preemotionis physicee contra impetitiones 
pseudo Eugenii Pliiladelphi Romani Per R-P- 
Gulielmum Camerarium Scotum, Congregationis 
Oratorii Jesu Christi presbyterum, sacra? Theol- 
ogies professorem. Fastemburgi, apud Petruni 
Baretium et Joh. Astemium, 1634. Glasgow 
University Library ; Marsh's Library, Dublin. 
The Glasgow printed Catalogue of 1791 gives the 
date 1635, but this is a misprint in the Catalogue. 

5b. Non causa ut causa, subjuncta yera causa, 
elenchus sophismatis Gulielmi Camerarii Scoti, per 
Petrum de Pasquier, S. Thcologiac Doctorem, 
Motae Curionem, Serrae Sacristam. Fastemburgi, 
apud Petrum Baretium et loannem Astemium, 
1635. Bibliotheque Mazarine. A reply to No. 5. 
Pasquier was a pseudonym of P. Th^ophile 
Kaynaud. 

6. Alpharabii vetustissimi Aristotelis inter- 
pretis opera omnia, quae Latina lingua conscripta 
reperiri potuerunt, ex antiquissimis manuscriptis 
eruta. Studio et opera Gulielmi Camerarii, Scoti, 
Fintraei, Sacrse Theologiae professoris, luris 
Canonici doctoris. .. .Parisiis, apud Dionysium 
Moreau, Via Jacobsea, sub Salamandra, 1638. 
British Museum ; Trinity College, Dublin. 

7. De peccato. Parisiis, 1638. Given by Mr. 
Kellas Johnstone in Scottish Notes and Queries for 
February, 1895, vol. viii. p. 135. No copy located. 

8. Dissertatio theologica : an confessarius 
absolvere possit catholicum pie viventem ita 
sensibus destitutum, ut nullum dare possit 
contritionis vel pcenitentiae signum ? authore 
Gulielmo Canaerario .... Brixiae Catacorum, ex 
officina C. Pensae 1638. Bibliotheque Nationale. 
Dupin says 1648. 

9. Gulielmi Camerarii .... Tractatus in quo 
omnium animarum indivisibilitas luculenter 
probatur. Parisiis, apud C. Rouillard, 1638. 
Bibliotheque Nationale. 

10. Gulielmi Camerarii, Scoti, Fintraei, sacrae 
theologiSe doctoris, et professoris emeriti, &c. 
Disputationes theologicee. De discrimine pec- 
cati venialis et mortalis. De perfecta observa- 
tione divinaa legis. De perfectione bonorum 
operum Baptizatorum sive Renatorum ubi de 
compossibilitate et incompossibilitate bonitatis 
et malitiae in eodem actu. De bonitate denique 
actus attritionis. Opposite disputationibus 
Roberti Baronis, ministri et professoris Neabre- 
donensis, de iisdem materiis. Parisiis, apud 
Dionysium Houssayc, via Carmelitana, 1639.- 
Aberdeen University Library. 

11. Disputatio theologica de electione angel - 
orum et hominuin ad gloriam et de exclusione 
eorum, ab eadem. Authore Gulielmo Came- 
rario, Scoto, Fintraso, Sacrse Theologies et juris 
Canonici doctore. Rhedonis,. apud Joannem 
Durandum, typographum ac bibliopolam, Via D. 
Thomas, sub signo B. Marias, 1641. Bibliotheque 
Sainte-Genevieve. 

12. Scoticanae ecclesia? infantia, yirilis aetas, 
senectus. Opera et studio Gulielmi Camerarii, 
Fintraei, Scoti, Sacras Theologies Doctoris, &c. 
Parisiis, apud Carolum Rouillard, via Jacobasa, 
sub signo floris Lilii. 1643. Advocates' Library. 
This edition is dedicated " Illustrissimo Domino D. 
Nicolao Balleolo, summo asrarii Gallicani Praa- 
fecto in suprema Parisiensi Curia Praesidi infulato, 
Reginae Regentis Cancellario." 



13. [Thesanie.] Secunda editio. Apud Diony- 
sium Houssaye, via Scotias, ad insigne Stelle, e 
regione D. Hylarii, 1647. Blairs College Library, 
with book-plate of the Scots College of Paris. 
This edition is dedicated " Illustrissimo ac 
rcverendissimo ecclesiae principi Carolo de Rosma- 
deo, Episcopo Venctensi, Galliarum Monarchas 
Christianissimo a Sanctioribus consiliis," &c. 

14. Hierarcha ct iniperator ex institutis ct 
disciplina patrum qui primis a Christo floruerunt 
seculis. Opera et studio Gulielmi Camerarii 
Scoto, Fintraei, Sacras Theologiae Doctoris, &c. 
Parisiis, apud Dionysium Houssaye, via Scotias, ad 
insigne Stellae, e 'regione D. Hilarii. 1647. 
Aberdeen University Library. 

The imprint on No. 5s by Raynaud and 
on No. 5 by Camerarius, to which it was a 
reply, is very puzzling. Where was Fastem- 
burg ? Apparently only these two books 
are known to bear the imprint. 

Cotton (' Typographical Gazetteer,' 1831, 
p. 94) says : 

" Qu ? Furstenberg, a small touii of Lusatia ; 
or, Furstenberg, a toun of Mecklenburg Strelitz ; 
or Furstenberg, a small toun of Germany in the 
principality of Waldeck." 

Deschamps (' Dictionnaire de Geographic,' 
1870, p. 538) says : 

" Furstenberg, anc. chateau, bourg sur le Weser 
(Hesse-Cassel)." 

These authorities do not help much, but 
Backer . and Sommervogel are still more 
difficult to understand (' Bibl. de la Coinpag- 
nie de Jesus,' vi. 1527 ; Raynaud, 21) : . 

" Non causa ut causa, subjuncta vera causa 
. . . .Fastemburgi, apud Petrum Baretium et Joan* 
Absteniium. 

" M. Deschamps prend au se'rieux la rubrique 
Fastemburgi, qu'il transforme en Fustemburgi 
(Furstenberg). Je ne partage pas son avis: 
le P. Raynaud n'aurait pas t6 faire imprimer un 
livre en Allemagne ; il aura pris ce nom de ville 
par une certaine analogic a celui qui se trouve 
sur le livre auquel il r^pond. De plus, n'y a-t-il 
pas un certain rapprochement a faire entre 
Fasienibury, chateau du jeunc, et Abstcmius, qui 
ne boit pas de liqueurs enivrantes ? " 

I confess I cannot follow this reasoning, 
if reasoning it may be called. Does P. 
Sommervogel mean that Fastemburg is a 
purely imaginary place, or a real place where 
Camerarius' s book was printed, but not 
Raynaud' s ? And what becomes of the 
" rapprochement," if Abstemius should be 



In several of his books William Chalmers 
speaks of his elder brother David, author 
of two better-known works : 

De statu hominis, veteris simul ac nov83 
ecclesiae, et infidelium conversione. Libri tres. 
Authore Davide Camerario presbytero Scoto * 
Catalauni, apud lacobum Thevenym, typo- 
graphum et bibliopolam. 1627. 



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Davidis Camerarii Scoti, De Scotorum forti- 
tudine, doctrina & pietate, ac de ortu & progressu 
hseresis in regnis Seotiee & Angliae. Libri quatuor. 
Nunc primum in lucem editi. Parisiis, sumptibus 
Petri Baillet, via lacobsea, sub Gallo & Leone 
repente. 1631. 

I shall be grateful for any further biblio- 
graphical notes on either of the brothers. 
P. J. ANDERSON. 

Aberdeen University Library. 



THE FIRST PERFORATED POSTAGE 
STAMPS. 

[Having failed to obtain information in various 
works, including ' The Life of Sir Rowland Hill,' 
by his daughter, and Sir Henry Cole's ' Fifty 
Years of Public Life,' as to the date of the first 
perforated stamp, I wrote to Mr. Fred J. Melville, 
and he has most courteously supplied the in- 
formation required. JOHN COLLINS FRANCIS.] 

THE penny English stamps were first issued 
to the public in perforated sheets about 
February, 1854. The earliest dated (post- 
marked) copy of the stamp known to collec- 
tors is February 20th, 1854. Prior to this, 
however, and during the period of Mr. Henry 
Archer's experiments, a few of the results 
of his trials, and the subsequent trials of 
Mr. James N. Napier, the mechanical 
engineer who perfected the Archer machine, 
were used in the post. Some of these trial 
sheets were supplied to the House of Com- 
mons Post Office for the use of Members of 
Parliament during 1851. 

The plan was first invented by Archer in 
the autumn of 1847, and was submitted 
to the Postmaster-General about October 
of that year. The report of the practical 
department of the Post Office on the useful- 
ness of the invention was dated October 14, 
and on October 25th Archer stated in writing 
his terms for making a perforating machine 
for the Commissioners of Inland Revenue. 
On January 17, 1848, the Board of Inland 
Revenue authorized Mr. Archer to give a 
trial to the plan as an experimental measure. 

Archer's first idea was to pierce the paper 
by means of rollers, but this was not success- 
ful. He then conceived the plan of punching 
out the holes in the paper by means of short 
flat-ended steel wires, or punches, fixed 
vertically over a matrix steel plate, the holes 
in. which corresponded in position and 
diameter with the punches which were to 
descend into the holes. 

On November 23, 1848, Archer took out 
Letters Patent for his invention, and on 
December 6 the machine was first tried at the 
works of Messrs. Bacon and Petch (the 
printers of the British postage stamps of that 



period). Archer complained that the sheets 
were inserted in his machine while the gum 
was wet, so that the holes got clogged 
and rendered the experiment a failure. The 
next trial was at Somerset House about 
January, 1850. 

Archer's machine was rendered practicable 
by the mechanical skill of Mr. Napier, to 
whom the experiments were entrusted after 
the government acquired Archer's rights. 
This, however, need not lessen our apprecia- 
tion of Archer's invention. He was not a 
mechanic, but he worked out his plan, with 
mechanical assistance, on lines which to a 
large extent have not been superseded to 
this day. For instance, our British stamps 
are still perforated by machines (teimed 
" comb " machines) which, like Archer's, 
perforate three sides of each stamp in a row 
at one descent of the punches, thus : 



The next descent of the pins completes the 
perforating of the first row and partly per- 
forates the next row, and so on. 

" Harrow " machines perforate a whole 
sheet at one descent, but they are not much 
used, so it must be assumed that the advan- 
tage of speed which they present (at least in 
theory) do not counterbalance the dis- 
advantages of the breaking of the punches, 
and the difficulty of perfect register. Rotary 
machines, which would be preferable to the 
" harrows " for speed, are used in the 
United States Bureau of Engraving and 
Printing, but the results are very poor, on 
account of the variation in the shrinkage 
of the paper subsequent to its being 
dampened for printing from engraved steel 
plates. This shrinkage is so uneven that 
the perforations ruin a large proportion (until 
recently 9 per cent) of the printed sheets. 

Although the new stamps of King George's 
reign are to be produced in a newly built 
factory with the most modern equipment, 
I understand that rotary perforators will 
not be used. FRED. J. MELVILLE. 



'LUCRECE' AND 'THE PASSIONATE 

PILGRIM ' : NEW READINGS. 
IN the First Quarto 11. 1544-5 of ' Lucrece ' 
are printed thus : 

To me came Tarquin armed to beguild 
With outward honestie, but &c. 
Malone placed a semicolon at " armed," and 
(following the lead of Gildon and Sewell) 
substituted "so" for "to"; but, as Mr. 



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Wyndham has said, a semicolon at this" part 
of the line is unusual, if not unparalleled. 
Besides, it gives the first part of the line a 
dragging effect which spoils the rhythm, and 
" armed," standing alone, conveys a wrong 
impression, by suggesting Tarquin's sword. 
These and other difficulties are obviated 
by pointing as follows : 

To me came Tarquin, armed so, beguiled 

With outward honesty, &c. 

That is, furnished, as Sinon was, with the 
weapons of subtlety and deceit. " Arm " 
Was common in the sense of furnish or pre- 
pare ; see Chester, ' Love's Martyr ' (New 
Shaks. Soc., p. 6) : 

Then (gentle Reader) over-reade my Muse, 
That armes herself e to flie a lowly flight. 

" Beguiled " has the required sense, 
" made beguiling," in the Elizabethan 
translation of Seneca, ' Tenne Tragedies,' 
reprint Spenser Soc., Part I., p. 6 : 
And either his begiled hooks doth bayte, 
Or els beholds and sees the pray from hye, 

where, however, the Latin, " deceptos in- 
struit hamos," may have led the translator 
to use a past participle. 

The Quarto reading of * The Passionate 
Pilgrim,' xv. 2, is : 

Lord how mine eies throw gazes to the East, 

My hart doth charge the watch, the morning 
rise 

Doth scite, &c. 

Steevens rightly said that the meaning 
of this phrase was not very clear ; Malone 
suggested that the watch were enjoined to 
hasten through their nocturnal duty ; and 
Delius read " change " for " charge." By 
transferring the comma from the middle 
to the end of the second line, and reading 
" them " for " the " before " watch," we 
get a meaning consistent with the context, 
virtually without changing a letter (" the " 
with a stroke over it stands, as often, for 
" them," in xix. 40), viz. : 

Lord, how mine eyes throw gazes to the east ! 

My heart doth charge them watch the morning 
rise, 

Doth cite each moving sense from idle rest, 

Not daring trust the office of mine eyes. 

While Philomela, &c. 

This is really nearer to the original than 
the modern editions, which have a full 
stop at "rest" instead of the comma of 
the Quarto, and a comma at " eyes " 
instead of its full stop. The change proposed 
has the further effect of bringing the stanza 
into line wilh the rest, which (including the 
two in xiv., shown by Profs. Dowden and 
Rolfe to be part of the same poem) are 
quatrains followed by couplets. 



It is inconsistent with what follows to 
say " the morning rise doth cite," &c., for 
it has not risen, the lark which welcomes 
daylight has not sung, and in 11. 16, 17, the 
sun is bidden shine, and the day peep. 

In the last line of the same poem, 

Short night to night, and length thy selfe to 
morrow, 

modern editions rightly add commas at 
" Short " and " night " ; but it would be 
well to have a comma also at " selfe," viz., 

Short, Night, to-night ; and length thyself, 
To-morrow, 

or perhaps 

Short night, To-night, &c. f 

i.e., "O Night, [or "O To-night,"] be short: 
O To-morrow, be long." 

It is easy to understand why it would be 
to the lover's advantage to have the next 
day lengthened ; see 1. 12 : 

For why, she sigh'd, and bade me come 
to-morrow. 

Throughout the poem he is longing for the 
day, not for the night following. 

C. K. POOLER. 



JORDAN NOT A TYPE OF BAPTISM. At 
6 S. x. '299 (the main question being on 
Jordan as a type of death) the REV. ED. 
MARSHALL said : " The common patristic 
interpretation is that the passage of the 
Jordan is represented in baptism." I 
venture to suggest that this is an error. 
It is the passage of the Red Sea which is so 
represented. The forty years in the wilder- 
ness being a figure of human life under the 
new law, baptism commences what death 
terminates ; and to make the passage of 
the Jordan an analogue of baptism is to 
invert the whole scheme. See that very 
ancient baptismal hymn, containing the 
verse 

Ex ^gypto venei-unt, qui mare transierunt ; 

Virtutes cognoverunt, et laudes cantaverunt. 

See also the allusion to the Red Sea in the 
Latin office for Easter Eve : " O vere 
beata nox, quse exspoliavit JEgyptios, 
ditavit Hebrseos " : after which the font is 
blessed. See further the very distinct 
language of the English Baptismal office, 
" figuring thereby (by the passage of the 
Red Sea) Thy holy Baptism. 1 ' 

I greatly doubt whether any of the fathers 
allude to the river Jordan in this manner. 
Would that the Rev. Ed. Marshall were yet 
with us, to explain the matter further ! 

RICHARD H. THORNTON. 

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WINCHESTER MEASURES AND BOTTLES. 
The old Winchester standards lasted from 
1588 to 1824. And glass bottles were first 
made in England in 1588. The present unit 
of capacity for liquids as well as for dry goods 
is the imperial gallon measure, introduced 
in 1824 in place of the old Winchester gallon. 
Three separate gallon measures had been in 
use, as follows, from ancient times (two of 
them probably from 1225) until 1824, when, 
by the passing of the Act 5 Geo. IV. c. 74, 
the present imperial gallon, then containing 
277*274 cubic inches, was introduced, and 
the use of the three ancient gallon measures 
was made illegal, viz., a Winchester corn 
gallon = 272|, a wine gallon = 231, an ale 
gallon=282 cubic inches. A collection of 
old local standards at Winchester is interest- 
ing, as it includes standard troy weights 
dated 1588, being the year in which Elizabeth 
granted a charter to Winchester, and a 
Winchester bushel sent to the Corporation 
in 1487. The old Winchester Bushel was 
so called because the standard bushel was 
ordered by King Edgar to be kept there. 
The collection at Winchester also includes 
other standards of 1487, 1601, 1700, and 
particularly a 56-lb. weight, supposed to be 
of the time of Edward III., which was found 
in the old muniment room over the West 
Gate. 

In the Municipal Buildings at Edinburgh 
is a collection of the ancient Scotch standards. 
Among the exhibits is a Scotch choppin, or 
half -pint, dated 1555. The Scotch pint, 
or the stoup of Stirling, was defined in the 
Scotch Act of 1618 as being " 3 pounds 
7 ounces of French Troy or weight of clear 
running water of Leith." 

The old " Winchester quart," or one 
quarter of the Winchester gallon, contained 
68.06 cubic inches, therefore the old Win- 
chester pint would hold half that quantity. 
The ancient English pint is so close to the 
Roman sextarius (1.01 pint), that one can 
hardly doubt the derivation of the pint from 
the sextarius. 

The so-called " Winchester " gallon, quart, 
or pint, is not a measure of capacity, but is 
simply the name of a particular kind of 
bottle or vessel used for storing liquids. 
For instance, in the catalogue of a maker 
of chemical apparatus this occurs : " Acid 
bottles, blue or green glass. Corbyns and 
Winchesters." The shape of each is the 
same, but the size varies. The quart con- 
tains either 80, 90, or 120 ozs., the Corbyn 
is 40 ozs. = 2 pints, and when the old term 
" Winchester pint " is employed in ordering 
a modern 16 oz. bottle is supplied. 



The Winchester bottle appears therefore 
to be another instance in which the liquid 
or article in which it is placed becomes 
in the trade recognized as, and confused 
with, a measure. At present it seems 
impossible to ascertain whether the ex- 
pression " Winchester " was derived from 
the name of a place or of a manufacturer. 
As to the ancient term Corbyn being 
transferred from the firm of that name 
(which, by the way, is comparatively modern), 
this is scarcely correct. It is true that their 
business in the Poultry was at the sign of 
the " Bell and Dragon," formerly con- 
ducted by WinstanJey & Co., and that " Ye 
ancient druggist sign of this house, 1666," 
is now in the Guildhall Museum. But the 
Corbyn who gave his name to the bottle, 
whether as manufacturer or otherwiss, is 
unrecorded the name only has survived, 
and, with the Winchester, it is seldom seen 
in print outside the trade lists. As an 
example of derivation, there is a globular 
bottle of green or blue glass, called 
a Carboy, which is a corruption of the 
Persian qardbah, a large flagon. It holds 
from 4 to 10 gallons. 

The above notes are taken mostly Irom a 
treatise on ' Standard Weights and Measures,' 
by H. J. Chaney, 1897, and a letter con- 
tributed by the same authority to The 
Chemist and Druggist, 19 June, 1897, vcl. L, 
p. 982. See also US. iii. 56. 

TOM JONES. 

THE CONFESSION OF Louis XVI. I do 
not remember meeting this confession of 
Louis XVI. anywhere, except in the book 
from which I extract it, viz., * The Book of 
Remembrance,' by Ralph Wedgwood, 1814, 
vol. i., pp. 156-7. The only other copy of 
this rare work I have heard of, besides my 
own, is in the British Museum Library. 
It is called * The Confession of Louis Capet 
on the Eve of his Decapitation.' It is taken 
from the ' Gazett de France,' and was drawn 
up with M. Hebert, General of the Eudists 
(? Jesuits), his Majesty's Confessor, and given 
to Abbe D. In 1814 he was interrogated by 
the Duchess of Angouleme ; but he did not 
know whether the originals were in the hand- 
writing of Louis XVI. 

" If, through the infinite goodness of God, I 
recover my liberty and my royal power, I 
solemnly promise : 

"1. To revoke, as soon as possible, all the 
laws that shall be pointed out to me (either by 
the Pope, in a Council or by four Bishops chosen 
from amongst the most enlightened and virtuous 
in my kingdom) as contrary to the purity and 
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jurisdiction of the holy Catholic Church, apostolic 
and Roman, particularly in the civil constitution 
of the clergy. 

"2. To restore without delay all legitimate 
pastors, and all persons possessed of benefices 
instituted by the Church, to the benefices of which 
they have been unjustly despoiled by the decrees 
of an incompetent power, with the reservation 
of taking canonical means for suppressing the 
titles of benefices which are least necessary, and 
to apply them to the wants of the State." 

Louis XVI. was an admirer of Charles I., 
and looked on his case as analogous to his 
own. Charles I. had a similar intention, 
and his written vow on the subject is in the 
St. Paul's Cathedral Library (8 S. v. 143). 
Perhaps, therefore, Louis XVI. in this 
matter also imitated Charles I. 

A. B. G. 

LAST MAIL COACH. In Lady Dorothy 
Nevill's charming book * Under Five Reigns' 
I read that " the last of the regular mail 
coaches would seem to have been the old 
Derby mail, which made its final journey 
out of Manchester in 1858." 

I certainly went from Plymouth to Truro 
in 1858, and I think again in 1859. The 
Royal Albert Bridge at Saltash was opened 
in the latter year, and I presume that up to 
that date the mail coach continued to run. 
HENRY FISHWICK. 

VENETI : VENETIANS. One is so accus- 
tomed to think of the Venetians as the 
people of the great mediaeval republic 
under whose leadership took place the Latin 
conquest of Constantinople (the first capture 
of that city) in 1204, and which preserved 
its independence after its decline until the 
capture of Venice by Napoleon in 1796, 
that one is rather startled to read in Dr. 
Mitchell's 'History of the Highlands and 
Gaelic Scotland ' (p. 4) that " at this time 
[i.e., that of Julius Caesar] the Venetians 
carried on a large trade with Britain." But 
of course this refers to the tribe of the 
Veneti on the north-west coast of Gaul, 
who raised a war with Caesar, which is 
described in the third boojk of the Gallic 
War, the result being their almost complete 
destruction in a naval battle, probably 
fought near the mouth of the Loire. From 
that tribe, however, is derived the name of 
the modern town of Vannes. Whether 
that had any ethnic connexion with the 
Veneti in the north-east of Italy who 
inhabited the modern Venetia cannot be 
answered positively. But it is more prob- 
able that the latter were connected with a 
Slavonian tribe also called Veneti or Venedi 



(whence the appellation Wonds, in German 
Wenden) on the southern shores of the 
Baltic. 

But besides these there was in very ancient 
times a tribe of similar name in Paphlagonia 
which is mentioned by Homer as a mule- 
breeding race : 

E 'EvcruM', oOtv fjfuovwv yevos dyporepaMv 

(' Iliad, 'ii. 851.) 
Of these nothing more is known. 

W. T. LYNN. 
Blackheath. 

INDEXES LOCORUM TO PRINTED PARISH 
REGISTERS. May I venture to suggest 
to editors of printed parish registers the 
advisability of adding an index of places 
to the volume or volumes for which they are 
responsible ? With one or two note- 
worthy exceptions, it does not seem to have 
occurred to those in charge that the books are 
likely to be made use of for topographical, 
as well as genealogical, purposes. An index 
of places outside the immediate area 
covered by a particular volume would be 
easy of compilation, and would not take up 
much room. I have been lately put to 
considerable trouble in going through the 
successive volumes of the Harleian Society's 
London registers by the absence of such aids. 
WILLIAM McMuRRAY. 

St. Anne and St. Agnes, Grcsham Street, E.G. 

LONGEVITY. It may be noted that the 
Rev. H. M. Sherwood has just resigned the 
living of White Ladies, Aston, Worcester- 
shire, which he held for seventy-one years. 
He was born in 1813. He took his B.A. 
degree (Queen's College, Oxford), in 1834. 
This tenure of an incumbency approaches a 
remarkable length. The reverend gentleman 
is said to enjoy, happily, excellent health. 

W. H. QUARRELL. 

FORWARD AL. I had occasion recently 
to write to the Superintendent of Govern- 
ment Printing, India, for a publication, and 
in reply received a printed form on which I 
was asked to remit the price of a copy, 
inclusive of lorwardal charges. The word 
is not in the * N.E.D." L. L. K. 

PETER MUNDY, TRAVELLER. In a letter 
from Sir Nicholas Parker to the Lords of the 
Council (Hist. MSS. Comm.), dated 12 
March, 1600-1, mention is made of " Robert 
Mundey, an honest merchant of Penrhyn." 

P. D. M. 



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formation on family matters of only private interest 
to affix their names and addresses to their queries, 
in order that answers may be sent to them direct. 



MOZART'S WORKS. Can any of your readers 
inform me whether Mozart's sonatas were 
written before or after his operas ? 

(Miss) CONSTANCE SMITH. 

13, Trinita de Monti, Rome. 

ANCIENT HORN. I am anxious to know 
in whose possession is an ancient horn 
formerly mounted in gold, which has 
been removed. It was the property of the 
Thrustons of Hoxne, who held it as service 
for some of their propeity in Norfolk or 
Suffolk. An antiquary I met says he re- 
members hearing about it a few years ago, 
but cannot remember who has it now. Any 
particulars as to it would greatly interest me. 
C. S. M. THRUSTON. 

14, Tedworth Gardens, S.W. 

J. C. LE BLON. I am engaged in collect- 
ing any printed or MS. references to the 
career or work of Jas. Christopher Le Blon, 
an engraver, who was in London from about 
1718 onwards, for some fifteen years or so, 
and produced a number of three-colour 
mezzotints for a company entitled the 
' Picture Office,' formed to operate his 
patented process. He also patented a 
method of weaving pictures in silk, and 
formed a company to exploit it. I have 
consulted most, if not all, of the obvious 
and well-known sources of information on 
the subject, and should be glad of any 
further particulars, no matter how trivial. 

R. M. BURCH. 
79A, Woodbridge Road, Guildford. 

THE MAGPIE'S DEATH. Can any of your 
readers kindly tell we where I can find an 
amusing dialogue between a gentleman 
(called, I think, "Mr. G.") and his land 
steward ? The former having recently 
returned from a long journey is first told 
that the magpie is dead, and then finds that 
this is but the prelude to an extraordinary 
catalogue of misfortunes that have occurred 
during his absence. M. G. 

Dublin. 

QUEEN ELIZABETH'S STATUE IN ROYAL 
EXCHANGE. In a niche at the north- 
eastern ambulatory of the Royal Exchange 
h the statue inscribed Elizabetha R., the 
4UUCH holding orb and sceptre. No name 



of the sculptor is given, nor is there any 
date of execution. Can these be supplied ? 
As we know (11 S. ii. 454) like omissions 
occur in respect of the statue of Carolus II. 
R. in the opposite niche. CECIL CLARKE. 

Junior Athena3um Club. 

GONDOLA PROW. Can any of your 
readers give me an explanation ot the 
curiously shaped prow of a gondola 1 1 
have been told that the six projections reler 
to the subdivisions of the town of Venice, 
but I cannot find any authority for this. 
Answers may be sent me direct. 

J. H. MATTHEWS. 

54, Parliament Street, S.W. 

' BIG BEN ' AND PHIL MAY. In my copy 
of ' The Parson and the Painter ' (a folio ot 
78 pages, with paper covers) there is at p. 2b 
an announcement that 

" Big Ben, | the | Great Conservative New 
Paper, | Weekly, Price Qd., \ will be published m 
October next. [1892]. | Four Coloured Pages, 
and | numerous Black and White Illustrations. | 
Art Editor : Phil May." 

Was this paper ever published ? Any 
information concerning it will be of interest. 

E. .N ** 

UNICORN ON ROYAL ARMS. Can any one 
give the origin of the unicorn being used as 
a supporter of the Royal Arms ? I believe 
it was first used by James I., and had been 
used previously as a supporter of the Royal 
Arms of Scotland. But why a fabulous 
beast ? ^ AVEN ' 

" To THE WEST ! To THE WEST." It is 
now many years ago since this song was 
sung or whistled by nearly every one 
the street, in the public-house, and in 
many homes : 

To the West ! to the West ! 

To the land of the Free, 
Where the roughest torrents, 

Roll down to the sea 

I never heard more of it, and this appeared 
to be all that people caied to know. It wes 
at the time when there was an early and 
strong tide of emigration westward, 
tune was not at all catchy, though the 
words were. Who wrote words and music ? 
THOS. RATCLIFFE. 

GALLOW' s ', BANK : MATHEW COCKLING. 
I should be "glad to hear something about 
a Mathew Cockling who was hanged for 
murder at Gallows Bank, near Derby, 
about one hundred and fifty years ago. 
Also something about a story told of this 
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house at Litchurch, one of the company 
dared " to take a basin of hot broth 



was 



to Mathew as the corpse hung in chains. 
The challenge was accepted, and the broth 




corpse ; upon which man and broth tumbled 
from the ladder, the man so dazed with 
fright that he failed to see one of the ale 
house company at the foot of the gibbet 
post. THOS. RATCLIFFE. 

EDWARD JARRETT was admitted to West- 
minster School in September, 1734, aged 12. 
Particulars of his parentage and career are 
desired. G. F. R. B. 

DR. JOHNSON or WARWICK. According 
to Wood's ' Life and Times ' (vol. ii. p. 507, 
Oxf. Hist. Soc. Pub. xxi.), he is said to have 
gone to Westminster School with Richard 
Peers, who was elected to Ch. Ch., Oxon, 
1664. I should be glad to obtain any 
information about this Dr. Johnson. 

G. F. R. B. 

CHARLES Jo YE was admitted to West- 
minster School in July, 1728, aged 8. Any 
information concerning his parentage and 
career would be welcome. G. F. R. B. 

THORESBY PEDIGREE. Is it possible to 
obtain (and if so, where ?) a copy of ' Notes on 
Ralph Thoresby's Pedigree,' by Mr. A. S. 
Ellis, referred to in a foot-note on p. 50, 
vol. ii. of Dr. Round's ' Peerage and Pedi- 
gree,' published by James Nisbet & Co. ? 

FORTESCUE THURSBY. 

Bath Club, Dover Street, W. 

CHARLES BRIDQMAN, GARDENER : HIS 
PORTRAIT. S. Felton (' On the Portraits oi 
English Authors on Gardening,' 2nd ed. 
1830, p. 136) speaks of a portrait of Charles 
Bridgman (the gardener who " composed ' 
Stowe Gardens and the Serpentine), which 
he saw more than 50 years earlier, and which 
he thinks was an etching. He adds : 

" I neither recollect its painter nor engrave 
[it was before the days of Seymour Haden anc 
precise terminologyl ; and it is so scarce tha 
neither Mr. Smith, of Lisle Street, nor Mr. Evans 
of Great Queen Street, the intelligent collector 
and illustrators of Granger, have been able tc 
obtain it. Perhaps it will be discovered that i 
was a private plate, done at the expense of hi 
generous and noble employer, Lord Cobham." 

Is this plate known to any living collector 
or was it perhaps an etching from th< 
portrait of Bridgman in Hogarth's ' Rake 
Progress,' or from the latter'r, group o 



artists in the Ashmolean Museum, or the 
Club of Artists by Hamilton in the National 
r'ortrait Gallery ? It seems very doubtful 
vhether the two latter identifications can 
)oth be right. A. FORBES SIEVEKING. 

12, Seymour Street, Portman Square, W. 

ANDERSON : SIMPSON : DICKSON : BAIL- 
LIE : GORDON. I seek genealogical details 
of the ancestry of 

1. John Anderson, who married 23 July, 
1824, Hellen Simpson (born 24 Sept., 1795 ; 
died at Bantaskine 1863) at Edinburgh. The 
Andersons lived from time immemorial in 
Haddingtonshire. Anderson's father was a 
shepherd. The latter married, as his second 
wife, the daughter of the illegitimate son 
of George Seton, fifth and last Earl of 
Winton. 

2. James Simpson, father of the above 
Hellen by his second wife Isabella Dickson. 
James Simpson claimed descent from the 
Simpson who was Dean or Provost of the 
Collegiate Church of Dunbar about 1560, and 
who joined the Reformers and married a nun 
from North Berwick Abbey. James Simp- 
son died 1819.* 

3. Samuel Dickson (brother or cousin of 
the above Isabella Dickson), born 1749, 
died 1793, builder and contractor, who built 
most of the new town of Edinburgh. Samuel 
Dickson married Agnes Bail lie at or near 
Edinburgh. 

4. Thomas Baillie, father of the above 

Agnes by his wife Gordon. Thomas 

Baillie was, I believe, connected with the 
family of Baillie of Lamington. 

Please reply direct. 

JAMES S. ANDERSON. 
Cuddington, Bucks. 

JENNER, OF WIDHILL, WILTS. Under 
the article in the ' D.N.B.' on Archbishop 
Narcissus Marsh, the following occurs : 

" Not the least pleasing thing recorded of him is 
that he paid 2,000 of the debts of Mr. John Jenuer 
of Widhill in Wiltshire, who had helped him to his 
fellowship, and thus given him the first lift." 
Dr. Marsh, Archbishop of Armagh, died 1713. 
In Cricklade Church there is a memorial 
to Robert Jenner, goldsmith and citizen, 
at one time representing that town in Parlia- 
ment (1628-29 and 1640-48), who died 
1651. That portion of the Chuich is termed 

* I understand James Simpson was a son, or 
grandson, of Rev. Matthew Simpson, minister of 
Pencaitland, by his wife Alison, dau. of Adam 
Drummond of Megginch. Alison Drummond was 
married to Matthew Simpson in March, 1709, and 
died 1736. Matthew Simpson died 1756, aged 83 
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the Widhill Chapel. I wish to ascertain 
in what way the John referred to above 
was related to Robert, who died without 
issue. Did the Jenners own the manor, 
and if so for what period ? 

R. J. FYNMORE. 

A COUSIN OF BOSWELL. In his 'Journal 
of a Tour to the Hebrides' (1887, vol. v. 

S87) Boswell refers to " My cousin, Miss 
alias, formerly of Inverness," who, he 
says, " was married to Mr. Riddocb, one 
of the ministers of the English chapel " 
at Inverness. Of course for " English " 
should be read " Episcopalian." I should 
be obliged for information es to the " cousin- 
ship " existing between Boswell and Miss 
Dallas, and should be glad also to learn 
moie of Mr. Riddoch. A. CALDEB. 

WALTER R. BENJAMIN OF NEW YORK. 
Dr. Moncure Conway expressed himself 
as indebted to this gentleman for the loan 
of some of Hawthorne's letters. I should 
like to know how they came into his posses- 
sion, and whether he is a connexion of the 
late Judah P. Benjamin, Q.C., who, after 
serving with distinction in an administrative 
capacity during the great American Civil 
War (1861-1865), migrated to England and 
became a great figure at the English bar. 
M. L. R. BRESLAR. 

RICE FOR THE COMPLEXION. In The 
Morning Post of 19 August, 1910, I read : 

" In connection with the death of a young woman 
named Mary Cadwallader, it was stated before the 
Birkenhead Coroner yesterday that she had an 
inordinate appetite for raw rice. It was explained 
that many girls eat raw rice to improve their com- 
plexions, and in this case, the doctor said, the eating 
of so much rice had a good deal to do with the girl's 
death." 

Is this habit grounded on some physiological 
fact, or on a legend or superstition of some 
sort ? Q. V. 

THE BURNING OF Moscow. Some fresh 
light, it ii understood, has been thrown on 
this much disputed matter by an article in 
the ' Annales Politiques et Litteraires ' 
from the pen of a descendant of Rostopchin. 
Can any one give the reference ? 

KOM OMBO. 

REMARKABLE ECHOES. Is a list available 
of remarkable echoes at particular spots 
in the United Kingdom ? The information 
would be useful to tourists. I am aware of 
a beautiful and weird echo at Loch-an-Eilan, 
Rothiemurchus ; and Mr. Henry Bradley 
in an essay on ' English Place-Names ' 



mentions that a remarkable echo may be 
heard at Dwaraden, a small hamlet in South 
Yorkshire (see p. 30 of ' Essays and Studies 
by Members of the English Association,' 
Clarendon Press, 1910). T. F. HUSBAND. 

" ROYAL BLUE " OMNIBUSES. This 
familiar feature of the locomotion of the 
London streets (Piccadilly, Bond Street, and 
Oxford Street) is to disappear finally in 
August, when the horses go for the autumn 
manoeuvres. I understand this line of 
omnibuses belongs to the London General 
Omnibus Company and the Victoria Omnibus 
Association. Why were they called " Royal 
Blue," and when did they start running ? 
JAS. CARTER, F.S.A. 

DUTCHMEN IN PEMBROKE. I find this 
statement in Godfrey Goodman's ' Fall of 
Man,' 1616, p. 296 : 

"In Pembroke-shire certaine Dutch-men being 
anciently permitted to inhabit, their posteritie vnto 
this day retaines the luxurie and riot (proper to that 
nation) and yet they haue forgotten their language." 

If this be correct, there should be in that 
county some old families with " Dutch " 
names. The word " Dutchmen " may mean 
Germans. Perhaps some resident of Pern 
broke can throw light on this point. 

RICHARD H. THORNTON. 

36, Upper Bedford Place, W.C. 

LIEUT. -GENERAL RICHARD HAMILTON. 
I should be much obliged to any reader of 
' N. & Q.' who could inform me whether there 
is a portrait of Lieut. -General Richard 
Hamilton of the Boyne in existence, and 
where it may be seen. D. C. BOULGER. 

ATREBATUM. Where is " Atrebatum in 
Belgia " ? Cornelius a Lapide says the 
churchyard was much troubled by ghosts, 
but that they were driven away when lamps 
were kept burning all night. If a man was 
also kept to trim the lamps, and a big dog, 
the result seems credible ; but I cannot 
find the place. R. B. CLARK. 

[The modern Artois.] 

RICHARD BADDELEY, 1620. In or about 
1620 a boy named William Perry, of Bilson, 
Staffordshire, was concerned in an imposture. 
The book describing the affair ' The Boy of 

Bilson ' London, 1622, is anonymous, 

but an address " To the Christian Reader " 
is signed " Rye. Baddeley," who says or 
implies that he knows the author. Some of 
the examinations conducted befoie Thomas 
(Morton), Bishop of Coventry and Lichfield, 
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Public. These examinations were at Eccles- 
hall Castle, but the notary's place of abode 
is not stated. Is it known where Richard 
Baddeley lived, and to what family he 
belonged ? DIEGO. 



LADY (JLOONEY'S (MRS. JANE 

MOLONY'S) EPITAPH. 

(US. iii. 108, 154.) 

THEBE can be practically no doubt that the 
so-called Lady O'Looney epitaph is a poor, 
abbreviated, and corrupt reproduction of 
Mr 5. Jane Molony's existing epitaph, and 
that it never had any place in Pewsey Church. 
The real epitaph is on one of the walls inside 
the chapel of St. George's burial-ground in 
the Bayswater Road (see 10 S. vii. 13, 135, 
198). 

The chapel was pulled down in or about 
1893, and rebuilt at the expense of Mrs. 
Russell Gurney. I visited it when it was 
in a state of devastation, and got the fore- 
man of the works to show me the tablet 
bearing Mrs. Molony's epitaph, then among 
the tablets which had been taken down. 
When the chapel had been rebuilt it was 
put up on the south wall inside, but so high 
up that one cannot read a word of it without 
mounting a ladder. 

Having read in the editorial note to the 
query that Mr. E. R. Suffling had in his 
* Epitaphia ' written of " its removal a few 
years ago" I went to the chapel to-day 
(February llth) and learned from the care- 
taker that the tablet is still there, though 
apparently he had not known of it until quite 
recently. He had ascertained the fact by 
mounting a ladder. I could not this time 
read a word of it, although I had a pair of 
opera glasses. The complete epitaph is 
given in the Appendix (p. 184) of ' Antiente 
Epitaphes,' collected by Thomas F. Raven- 
shaw, 1878. 

The heading of the copy is- 

" 1839. Mrs. Jane Molony (' Lady O'Looney ')," 
and a foot-note says : 

" In a very mutilated form this epitaph has 
long been current as that of ' Lady O'Looney,' 
& was said to be found at Pewsey, Wilts." 

As showing that this old and often re- 
peated story is a fabrication, I may mention 
that Ravenshaw's prefatory remarks are 
dated " Pewsey Rectory, Wilts, 1878." It 
would appear to be impossible that the 
" Lady O'Looney " epitaph could ever have 



existed in Pewsey without hi 3 knowledge. 
Although it is very long I think that room 
might well be found for the true epitaph 
in ' N. & Q.' 

" Sacred to the Memory of | Mrs. Jane Molony I 
who lies interred in a vault underneath this 
chapel | daughter of Antony Shee of Castle Bar 
in the county of | Mayo Esqre | who was married 
to miss Burke of Curry in the said j county | 
and cousin to the rt honble Edmond Burke 
commonly | called the sublime | whose bust is 
here surmounted or subjoined | the said Jane 
was cousin to the late countess of | Buckingham- 
shire | and was married to three successive 
husbands first | Stuart esqre | cousin to the late 
marquis of Bute ; secondly to William | Collins 
Jackson | of Langley lodge in the county of 
Bucks formerly | military secretary | to the hon : 
east India Company in India esqre | thirdly 
Edmond Molony of Clonony Castle King's 
county | Ireland esqre | barrister at law and late, 
of Woodlands in the county | of Dublin | cousin 
to the earl of Roscommon, who is brother in law | 
of the | present earl of Shrewsbury and also 
cousin of lord viscount Dillon | of Costollo and 
Gallon in the kingdom of Ireland | the first wife 
of the said Edmond Molony was Jane | Malone I 
who is interred in the demesne of Barinstown | 
in the county of Westmeath with her | brother 
in law Antony Malone esqre, and also with I 
her cousins lord Sunderlin | and his predeceased 
brother Edmond Malone commonly | called | 
Shakspear Malone late of Queen Anne street east 
London | she was daughter of sergeant Richard 
Malone an' | eminent lawyer and | a great states- 
man who possessed great estates in the | said 
King's county | and niece to the rt. honble 
Antony Malone deceased | who was greatly | 
regretted of whom it was said by one of the 
most | elegant writers | of the day that he 
possessed one of the sweetest tongues | that 
ever uttered the dictates of reason | he was a 
great patriot and refused the great seals of | 
Ireland the situation | being at the pleasure of the 
crown while chancellor | of the exchequer | of 
Ireland from which he was removed without 
cause | or his own consent | he availed himself 
of the judicial place attached to it | and sat on 
the bench above the chief baron and decided | 
many cases | which gave general satisfaction 
and his decrees were | never questioned | he 
died 1776 aged 76 ] the said mrs Molony other- 
wise Malone died at said | Woodlands | in 
February 1808 aged 59 | the said mrs Molony 
otherwise Shee died in London in | January 
1839 | aged 74 | she was hot passionate and tender 
| and a highly accomplished lady and a superb 
drawer | in water colours which was much admired 
in the | exhibition room in | Somerset house some 
years past 

" though lost for ever, yet a friend is dear 
the heart yet pays a tributary tear." 

" this monument was erected by her deeply 
afflicted | husband the | said Edmond Molony 
in memory of her great virtues | and talents f 
beloved and deeply regretted by all who knew 
her | for of such is the kingdom of heaven." 

Ravenshaw adds : 

Chapel of s. George's Burying Ground, London, 
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It will be noticed that not only was the 
subject of tha epitaph not Lady O'Looney, 
but also that she was not Mrs. Maloney. 
She was Mrs. Molony. This latter confusion 
probably arose from the fact that the first 
wife of Edmond Molony was a Malone 
by marriage as well as by birth. Further 
each Mrs. Molony had the Christian name 
" Jane." Eavenshaw gives the epitaph in 
capital letters all of the same size excepting 
" Mrs. Jane Molony " (2nd line), which is 
in larger capitals, all equal in size. There 
are no stops excepting those which I give. 

Regarding " whose bust is here surmounted 
or subjoined " I think that I am right in 
saying that there is now no bust at all. 
Possibly the bust was, or was intended to 
be, that of Edmond Burke, but more pro- 
bably, I think, " whose " refers to Mrs. 
Jane Molony, the subject of the epitaph. 
A correspondent (10 S. vii. 198) se.ys of the 
chapel, " The monumental inscriptions have 
been printed in Miscellanea Genealogica et 
Heraldica from Second Series iii. 125 to 
v. 379." It is to be hoped that Mrs. 
Molony's epitaph is one of them. 

By reference to my note 10 S. vii. 135 
it will be seen that Mrs. Molony's water- 
colour pictures cannot be traced in the 
Royal Academy catalogues. Perhaps they 
were sent to Somerset House and rejected- 
ROBERT PIERPOINT. 

[Replies also from Gr. F. R. B. and MR. ALAN 
STUWART.] 



MILTON ON PLAGIARISM (11 S. ii. 309). 
The words usually cited occur in the ' Eikono- 
klastes,' chap, xviii. : 

" For such kind of borrowing as this, if it be 
not bettered by the borrower among good 
authors is accounted plagiary." 

Iii the light of Milton's alleged obligations 
to the Dutch poet Vondel, whose ' Lucifer,' 
' Adam in Ballingschap,' and ' Samson ' he 
appears to have been pretty conversant 
with, this pronouncement is all-important ; 
(see Milton and Vondel,' by G. Edmundson* 
London, 1885). 

The subject of plagiarism, however, 
is treated at far greater length in the first 
chapter of ' Eikonoklastes,' wheie the delin- 
quencies of the writer of ' Eikon Basilike ' 
are taken up categorically ; especially in 
the paragraph beginning : 

" For he certainly whose mind could serve him 
to seek a Christian prayer out of a pagan legend, 
and assume it for his own." 
The heated tone and argumentation per- 
vading this tract arc rather calculated to 



lower the popular estimate of the author of 
' Paradise Lost ' as a politician and man of 
letters, whc even goes the length of charging 
Charles I. with being an accessory of the 
death of his father. N. W. HILL. 

* ' CRUEL OF HEART WERE THEY, BLOODY 
OF HAND " (11 S. iii. 129). It may be that 
MR. POTTS is right in tracing Wordsworth's 
quoted line to a passage in Scott's ' Talis- 
man.' At all events, the two quotations 
provide a very interesting parallel. I 
would venture to suggest another solution. 
In Moxon's edition of Wordsworth's 'Poetical 
Works,' London, 1865, 6 vols., it is stated 
in the notes on ' St. Bees,' iv. 288, that 

" the form of stanza in this poem, and something 
in the style of versification, are adopted from 
the ' St. Monica,' a poem of much beauty upon a 
monastic subject, by Charlotte Smith: a lady to 
whom English verse is under greater obligations 
than are likely to be either acknowledged or 
remembered. She wrote little, and that little 
unambitiously, but with true feeling for rural 
nature, at a time when nature was not much 
regarded by English poets ; for in point of time 
her earlier writings preceded, I believe, those of 
Cowper and Burns." 

Is it not conceivable that the line quoted by 
Wordsworth may be taken from Charlotte 
Smith's * St. Monica ' ? TOE RE A. 

THE EARLIEST TELEGRAPHY (US. iii. 24). 
Richard Lovell Edgeworth, father of the 
novelist, is usually looked upon as the 
pioneer of modern telegraphy. ' Chambers' 
Encyclop.' says : " Semaphores were in- 
vented by Richard Lovell Edgeworth in 
1767 (cf. p. 91 of his 'Memoirs,' ed. 1844)." 
But, after all, he would seem to have been 
no more than an experimentalist in the art 
of signalling, just as he was in so many 
branches of science. The ' D.N.B.' says : 

" In 1765 he returned to England, and took a 
house at Hare Hatch, near Maidenhead .... A 
desire to know the result of a race at Newmarket 
led him to invent a plan for telegraphing. He 
tried the experiment at Hare Hatch. It is said 
to have been the first attempt at telegraphic 
communication." 

The method employed must, however, have 
been very primitive. His claim as originator 
may be fairly disputed ; as, amongst other 
dabblers in the art, Amoutons had, not so 
very many years previously, carried out 
successful experiments. Unfortunately, the 
last-named left no drawings or detailed 
descriptions ; which will, however, exonerate 
Edgeworth from the charge of copying his 
plans. It was not till after Claude Chappe 
had made known his invention to the French 
Government (1792-3) that the Irish scientist 
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public. Doubtless he had improved his 
methods by a study of Chappe's plans ; 
possibly, too, he was one of the rival claim- 
ants who drove Chappe to suicide. After 
the Irish Rebellion (1798) Mr. Edgeworth 
persuaded the Government to lay down a 
line from Dublin to Galway ; but, according 
as the fear of invasion declined, the matter 
was dropped. Edgeworth died 1817. His 
daughter, Maria, in her letters, mentions 
how, on their visit to Paris, 1802, they took 
lodgings near the central telegraph office, 
so that her father might closely study the 
means and methods employed. He was a 
man of varied talents and many clever 
" notions " ; velocipedes, drainage, road- 
measuring machines, &c., and, as ' Harms- 
worth's Ency.' says : " claimed to have 
invented the electric telegraph as now 
used." Yet, were it not for his famous 
daughter, his name might, perchance, be 
now entirely forgotten. 

HEBBEBT B. CLAYTON. 
39, Renfrew Road, Lower Kennington Lane. 

HOLWELL FAMILY (11 S. ii. 528 ; iii. 74, 
111). The following short extract from 
The Gentleman's Magazine for June, 1788, 
may interest COL. PBIDEAUX : 

''Died, Capt. Pigott of Compton Chamberlain, 
Wilts : one of the 23 persons who providentially 
escaped the fate of their fellow prisoners suffocated 
in the Black Hole of Calcutta in 1756 of whom 
except Gov. Holwell he has not we believe left a 
survivor." 

According to Burke' s * Gentry,' Thomas 
Walcot, a younger brother to Edward and 
Bowes Walcot, was a captain in the 12th 
Regiment, of which John Pigott became 
captain in 1778. 

In Holwell's account of the Black Hole 
the only names mentioned are " Court 
Secretary Cook, Lushington, Burdet, Ensign 
Walcot, Mrs. Carey, Capt. Dickson, Mr 
Moran and John Meadows and 12 Military 
and Military [sic] Blacks and Whites some o: 
whom recovered when the door was opened,' 
and John Pigott may have been among the 
latter. 

There certainly was a John Pigott who 
joined as ensign or lieutenant the 39th, in 
1750, and this regiment went out to India in 
1754, and it is quite possible that some o 
the officers may have been taken prisoner: 
when Fort William was captured in 1756. 

As far as I have been able to ascertain 
John Pigott resided during his boyish days a 
Ballymonty, co. Tipperary; and Frances 
the younger of his two sisters, married a 
Clonmel, ~9 July, 1757, Richard Po\\er 
afterwards second Baron of the Excheque 



n Ireland, younger brother of John Power 
f Tullamin Castle, co. Tipperary, A.D.C. 
o General Clive at the battle of Plassey, 
757. Was this Po\ver also an officer in the 
9th Regiment ? He was the ancestor of the 
>aronets. 

It seems that many of those who escaped 
ut of the Black Hole prison were Irish. We 
vant a complete annotated list of the 
3 survivors, and it is to be hoped that the 
many correspondents of ' N. & Q.' will be 
able in time to supply this deficiency. 

WM. JACKSON TIGOTT. 

Has COL. PBIDEAUX seen the pamphlet by 
Mr. S. C. Hill containing a list of all the 
Europeans in the English factories in Bengal 
n June, 1756 ? Beside J. Z. Holwell there 
was possibly a Richard Holwell, but Mr. 
ilill is not certain. There was no Bowes 
Walcot ; only Edward. I think Mr. Hill's 
nvestigatioii is the latest. 

FBANK PENNY. 

Mr. Phillimore mentions that the arms of 
Holwell are marshalled by the family of 
Money-Kyrle. R. J. FYNMOBE. 

KNOTS IN HANDKEBCHIEFS : INDIAN 
CUSTOM (11 S. ii. 506; iii. 35, 97). I pre- 
sume the " knotting " was to assist memory. 
If so, many very pious Hebrews abroad and 
in this country practise it. In this way, 
"nefas est," to carry anything on the 
Sabbath (otherwise than subconsciously of 
course, like one's clothing, for example), 
such as an umbrella : so handkerchiefs or 

bandannas" are converted into girdles, the 
loose ends of which would come in handy for 
" knotting " into " memory-reminders." I 
have seen pious scholars do it in order to 
remind them to look up some " knotty " 
point. M. L. R. BBESLAB. 

WILLIAM ELMHAM (11 S. iii. 87). It 
appears from Blomefield's * History of 
Norfolk,' passim, that Sir William Elmham, 
knight, justice of peace for the counties 
of Norfolk and Suffolk, was the son of Henry 
Elmham of Elmham and Frenge, Norfolk, 
and Elizabeth his wife, that he was patron 
of the rectories of Bowthorpe and Coltishall, 
both in Norfolk, and lord of the manors of 
Ingoldsthorpe and Frenge, Norfolk, and of 
the Manor of Westhorpe, Suffolk ; that his 
town house in Norwich was afterwards 
known as Skipwith's Place from its owner 
in the reigns of Henry VI. and Edward IV. ; 
that he took part with Henry Despenser, 
Bishop of Norwich, in the campaign against 
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landing at Calais, 23 April, 1582 ; that 
later he was imprisoned in the Tower on 
suspicion of having betrayed Gravelines 
to the French ; that he was again imprisoned 
with the Bishop of Norwich in 1398 ; that he 
died in 1403 (will dated 2 April) without 
male issue, leaving a widow Elizabeth ; 
and that both he and his widow who died 
in 1419, were buried in a chapel of the Abbey 
of Bury St. Edmunds. 

JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT. 

See Sir N. Harris Nicolas' s History of the 
Royal Navy, vol. ii., text, and appendix. 

R. B. 

UptOD. 

SCOTTISH TITLES CONFERRED BY OLIVER 
CROMWELL (11 S. iii. 88). Archibald John- 
stone of Warriston was one of those appointed 
by Cromwell to his Upper House, and re- 
ceived the title of Lord Warriston. Argyll 
had been craated Marquess by Charles I. 
He received no title from Cromwell. His 
status as Sheriff of Argyllshire was confirmed 
by the Commonwealth. I may say that 
though he did not sit in any of Oliver's 
parliaments, he was Member for Aberdeen- 
shire in the Parliament of Richard Crom- 
well. JOHN WILLCOCK. 

Lerwick. 

Sir Archibald Johnston, Lord Warriston, 
was called by Cromwell to his House of 
Peers (January, 1658), and was also sum- 
moned to Richard Cromwell's House of 
Lords. I cannot find that Argyll was ever 
one of Cromwell's Peers. 

A. R. BAYLEY. 

VANISHING LONDON : PROPRIETARY 
CHAPELS (US. ii. 202, 254, 293, 334; iii. 
149). At the last reference, under "Chapels 
pulled down or diverted," MR. FRANCIS 
mentions St. Etheldreda, Ely Place. Ac- 
cording to ' The Catholic Directory,' this 
chapel was built in 1297, and reopened as a 
place of Roman Catholic worship in 1876. 
It belongs to the Fathers of Charity, other- 
wise known as Rosminians. Ward, Lock 
& Co.'s ' London,' 1910, at pp. 228-9, says: 

" Hatton Garden . . . .and Ely Place . . . . , stand 
on the site of the famous palace of the Bishop of 

Ely, where John of Gaunt died in 1399. 

Says Gloucester in ' Richard III.' : 

' My lord of Ely, when I was last in Holborn, 
I saw good strawberries in your garden there ; 
I do beseech you send for some of them.' 
" Later the palace was occupied by Sir Christo- 
pher Hatton, Lord Keeper to Queen Elizabeth .... 
The only portion of the palace which escaped 
the Fire has recently been restored, and now 



forms St. Etheldreda's Church, Ely Place, the 
only pre-Reformation church in London that 
has been restored to the Roman Catholic worship. 
The tracery of the east and west windows, the 
former filled with fine stained glass, the oak roof, 
the crypt, and the cloister in which fig-trees still 
flourish, make this quiet nook, in the heart of the 
great city, a place of exceptional interest." 
So we may be thankful that " Vanishing 
London " is a misleading heading, so far as 
St. Etheldreda's is concerned. 

JOHN B. WAINEWRIGHT. 

COURT LIFE (11 S. iii. 107, 156). A very 
useful work on this subject was published by 
William Strange of 21, Paternoster Row in 
1848. Its title is fully indicative of the 
contents : 

" Sketches of Her Majesty's Household : 
Interspersed with Historical Notes, Political 
Comments, and Critical Remarks, showing at one 
view, the salaries attached to the various appoint- 
ments, the nature and extent of the duties to be 
performed, the amount of Pensions upon Retire- 
ment or Superannuation, with descriptive 
particulars of each Department : Forming a 
Guide to Situations in the Sovereign's Domestic 
Establishment. By pointing out in whom the 
Patronage is vested, &c., and containing informa- 
tion relative to the English Court, interesting 
to all classes, derived from Private and High 
official Sources." 

It is less historical than Thorn's ' Book 
of the Court ' and more critical, but certainly 
not scandalous. ALECK ABRAHAMS. 

HENRY GATAKER (11 S. ii. 409 ; iii. 132). 
I have found, since sending my last reply 
to a query about one Gataker that Henry 
Gataker got third place at entrance in 
Trinity College, Dublin, on 6 July, 1796. 
He entered as a pensioner ; had been edu- 
cated at Westminster School, and took as 
his tutor Mr. Magee, F.T.C.D. (1766-1831), 
afterwards Archbishop of Dublin. His 
father's name was Thomas, and he was 
probably a clergyman (there is a blot on the 
entrance register), who belonged to the 
County Louth. Henry Gataker did not 
proceed to his degree. 

P. A. MCELWAINE. 

Dublin. 

WARWICK LANE AND ITS HISTORICAL 
ASSOCIATIONS (11 S. iii. 121). Possibly 
COL. PRIDEAUX may be glad to know on 
high authority that, when Warwick the King- 
maker died on the field of battle at Barnet, 
he errs in saying that " all the honours and 
possessions of the Nevills fell into the 
hands of the ill-fated Clarence." 

As a matter of fact there still exists a 
deed of partition of the copyholders of the 
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his wife dated 9 July, 17 Henry VII., 
daughter of Sir Edmund Ingaldethorp, and 
coheir of John, Earl Worcester. 

By this deed over forty manors in various 
parts of England devolved on Lady Isabella 
Nevill, a daughter of Montague, who married 
the ancestor of the present owner of one of 
these manors in 2 Henry VII. This Mon- 
tague was the brother of Richard, Earl of 
Warwick, called the Kingmaker, and both 
were killed in the battle of Barnet, where 
a high stone pillar records the memory of 
the fatal event. WILLIAM MERGER. 

PHYSICIAN'S CANE (11 S. iii. 168). The 
following is from Jeaffreson's v A Book about 
Doctors,' 1861, p. 2 : 

" The physician's cane is a very ancient part 
of his insignia. It is now disused, but up to very 
recent times no doctor of medicine presumed to 
pay a professional visit, or even to be seen in 
public, without this mystic wand. Long as a 
footman's stick, smooth and varnished, with a 

heavy gold knob or cross-bar at the top 

a physician's wand ought to have a knob at the 
top. This knob in the olden times was hollow, 
and contained a vinaigrette, which the man of 
science ahvays held to his nose, when he 
approached a sick person, so that its fumes might 
protect him from the noxious exhalations of 'his 
patient." 

R. J. FYNMORE. 

Sandgate. 

"TEAPOY": " CELLARETTE " (11 S. iii. 
149). Referring to the Editorial note, may 
I say that Yule does not state that " teapoy " 
is a corruption of the Persian sipai, tripos, 
but a Hindustani, or perhaps rather an Anglo- 
Hindustani word of hybrid etymology, 
from Hind, tin, three, and Pers. pde, a foot. 
Hs adds that the legitimate word from the 
Persian is sipdl (properly slhpdya] and the 
legitimate Hindi word tirpad or tripad, but 
tipai or tepoy was probably originated by 
some European in analogy with the familiar 
" charpoy " (Pers. chitar-pai, four feet), a 
bedstead, possibly from a desire to avoid 
confusion with another very familiar word, 
sepoy. W. 'F. PRIDEAUX. 

. The word " tea-poy " is 'the Sanscrit 
tin-paya colloquially pronounced by an 
English tongue (compare " sepoy " for 
sipahi). The meaning of the word is 
'* tripod." By dint of use it became especi- 
ally associated with a three-legged stand to 
carry a tea equipage in India, where tea 
was drunk by the English residents long 
before it became domesticated in England. 
The date of its first appearance in this 
country is uncertain, but it was probably 
introduced by Anglo-Indians prior to 1650, 



and with it came the fashion of the " tea- 
poy." The earliest public notice of tea, 
I think, appeared in the Mercurius Politicus 
in 1658 as follows : 

"That excellent, and by all Physitians, 
approved, China Drink, called by the Chineans, 
Teba, by other Nations, Tay alias Tee, is sold 
at the Sultaness-Head a Cophee-house in Sweet- 
ing's Rents by the Royal Exchange, London." 

H. D. ELLIS. 
7, Roland Gardens, S.W. 

MOVING PICTURES TO CINEMATOGRAPHS 
(11 S. ii. 502, 537 ; iii. 56, 155). The follow- 
ing notices of panoramic views are suffi- 
ciently noteworthy to be added to those 
already given. In or about 1794 Thomas 
Girton, a painter, produced a semicircular 
view of London, taken from the top of the 
Albion Mills, near Blackfriars Bridge, south 
side. In 1830 L. Mazzara exhibited a 
panoramic view of Alexandria. He also 
executed fifty splendid views forming a 
continued line from the castle of Dover to 
the point of Reculver, showing the coast of 
the county of Kent, as well as the inland of 
the island of Thanet. After this he illus- 
trated ' ' the most splendid town in the 
world," in one continued line of views from 
the mouth of the Thames to Richmond Hill. 
These were executed on a new system of 
perspective founded on circular lines as 
set forth in a pamphlet published by him, 
entitled Perspective, explained upon the 
System of Tangenteography, and the Effect 
as produced in the Tangenteorama,' 1834. 

TOM JONES. 

ROEITES or CALVERTON (11 S. iii. 9). 
Throsby, in his additions to Thoro ton's 
' History of Nottinghamshire,' says that in 
1793 there were two dissenting meeting- 
houses in Calverton, 

" one of 'which has a famous pastor John Roe, 
who it is said bid defiance to the discipline of the 
established church, respecting matrknony. Two 
of his female followers have suffered a long im- 
prisonment in Nottingham jail in consequence. 
One I believe was his wife in his own way ! " 
J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 

COUNT OF THE HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE 
(11 S. ii. 509 ; iii. 54, 94)A-The late F r 
William Humphrey, S.J., in his ' Urbs et 
Or bis,' at p. 167, writes as follows : 

" Bishops Assistant at the Pontifical Throne 
receive at the time of their nomination the title 
of Count. This title is also given to laymen 
in reward of their services to the Church. These 
Counts are properly Counts Palatine, and not 
Roman Counts, as they are very often, but in- 
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Companions (Comites) of the Pope, when h 
lived at St. John Lateran, and they composec 
his Court. The insignia consist of a gold cros 
and chain, and a mantle with embroidered cross 
The official title of this dignity is ' Count of th 
Apostolic Palace, and of the Court of the 
Lateran.' " 

It is doubtless either a Count of this kind 
or else an hereditary Count of the States o 
the Church, who is known to R. W. P. 

JOHN B. WAINE WRIGHT. 



REBECCA AND HER DAUGHTERS (11 S. iii 
89). May I be permitted to express my 
entire concurrence with ST. SWITHIN in 
thinking the explanation advanced by Miss 
Evans, as to the origin of the " Rebecca ' 
of the Welsh riots, wholly inadequate 
Her explanation brings a comic element 
into the narrative, and suggests gatherings 
of good-humoured, but mischievous schoo! 
boys. Had the riots been grounded on 
force, as Miss Evans seems to imply, it is 
safe to say that the disturbances would no1 
have lasted a week, instead of being continued 
over a period of some four years. The 
Welsh people were undoubtedly in grim 
earnest from the very first outbreak. They 
felt themselves wronged, and found in 
Scripture, as they believed, an adequate 
authority warranting resistance of the 
wrong. They had, in fact, a real grievance, 
which the Government took care to 
remedy with as little delay as possible. 
But in any case, there seems no reason why 
we should reject such accounts of the genesis 
of the Welsh riots as are given in Miss 
Marti neau's ' History of the Peace ' or in Mr. 
McCarthy's ' Short History of Our Own 
Times ' in favour of the theory advanced 
by Miss Evans as to their origin. 

SCOTUS. 

MURDERERS REPRIEVED FOR MARRIAGE 
(US. iii. 129, 172). I cannot find that this 
was ever a legal right in England, but the 
idea is widespread in the folk-lore of many 
countries. Numerous references will be 
found in F. Liebrecht's ' Zur Volkskunde ' 
alte und neue Aufsatze, Heilbronn, 1879, 
pp. 433-4, to similar beliefs in France, 
Germany, Italy, Hungary, Spain. In some 
of these it is not a virgin, but a woman of 
loose conduct, who is the medium of saving 
the man' s life by marriage under the gallows. 
Two instances are given in H. Estienne's 
' Apologie pour Herodote ' (edited by Ristel- 
huber, 1879), vol. i, p. 253-4, and from a 
note quoted from Maury,' L'Ancienne Legis- 
lation CriminelJe ' (no more exact reference), 
it is implied that the custom or right only 



applied in the case of " le ravisseur con- 
damne a mort et que la fille enlevee con- 
sentait a accepter pour mari." 

In most of the stories the point of 
the story consists in the man refusing 
thus to save his life because the woman is 
ugly or lame, &c. ; see also 9 S. viii. 419, 
where reference in made to the infamous 
'' Noyades " of the French Revolution. 
I cannot find, however, any reference to this 
custom in Allison's ' History of Europe ' 
in his long account of such " Noyades." 

A. COLLINGWOOD LEE. 
Waltham Abbey, Essex. 

Perhaps this was a " guid Scots " custom. 
I cannot connect it with any particular town, 
but I bethink me of Meg of Elibank and cite 
the following passage from chap. xi. of 
Lockhart's ' Life of Sir Walter Scott.' The 
poet wrote thus : 

" I have some thought of attempting a Border 
Ballad in the comic manner but I almost despair 
of bringing it out well. A certain Sir William 
Scott from whom I am descended was ill-advised 
enough to plunder the estate of Sir Gideon Murray 
of Elibank, ancestor to the present Lord Elibank. 
The marauder was defeated, seized, and brought 
in fetters to the castle of Elibank upon the Tweed. 
The Lady Murray (agreeably to the custom of all 
ladies in ancient tales) was seated on the battle- 
ments, and descried the return of her husband 
with his prisoner. She immediately inquired 
what he meant to do with the young Knight of 
Harden, which was the petit litre of Sir William 
Scott. ' Hang the robber assuredly,' was the 
answer of Sir Gideon. ' What ! ' answered the 
ady,' hang the handsome young knight of Harden, 
when I have three ill-favoured daughters un- 
married ! No, no, Sir Gideon, we'll force him to 
narry our Meg.' Now tradition says that Meg 
Vlurray was the ugliest woman in the four counties, 
and that she was called in the homely dialect of 
-he time meikle-mouthed J/e</....Sir Gideon, 
ike a good husband and tender father, entered 
nto his wife's sentiments, and proffered to Sir 
William the alternative of becoming his son-in- 
aw or decorating with his carcase the kindly 
o-allows of Elibank. The lady was so very ugly 
hat Sir William, the handsomest man of his time, 
)ositively refused the honour of her hand. Three 
ays were allowed him to make up his mind ; and 
'i was not until he found one end of a rope made 
ist to his neck, and the other knitted to a sturdy 
ak bough, that his resolution gave way, and he 
referred an ugly wife to the literal noose. It is 
vid they were afterwards a very happy couple." 

ST. SWITHIN. 

SAMUEL BYBOM (US. iii. 168). In the 
' Private Journal and Literary Remains 
of John Byrom,' edited by Canon R. Parkin- 
son for the Chetham Society, there are 
frequent references to the sad condition to 
which " Beau Byrom " had reduced himself. 
WILLIAM E. A. AXON. 



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The ' D.N.B.' (viii. 129), under John 
Byrom, poet and stenographer, says : 

" The Byroms of Manchester were a younger 
branch of the Byroms of Salford, themselves a 
younger branch of the Byroms of Byrom [of that 
Ilk, as would be said in Scotland]. The last 
representative of the parent stem was Samuel, 
commonly called ' Beau Byrom,' a spendthrift, 
who sold his estates (some of which were bought by 
John Byrom's father and uncle), got into the 
Fleet prison, and there published (in 1729) an 
' Irrefragable argument,' &c. It was sold for 
the benefit of the author, and was, in reality, 
a covert appeal for charity. The ' beau ' got out 
of prison, and John Byrom helped him to obtain 
support." 

A. R. BAYLEY. 

AUTHORS OF QUOTATIONS WANTED (11 S. 
iii. 48). -The last item wanted is the final 
verse in a little song entitled ' God's Garden,' 
written by D. F. Gurney. The first verse 
begins 

The Lord God planted a garden 
In the first white days of the world. 
The music is by Frank Lambert, and the 
song was probably published about ten 
years ago by Chappell & Co., London. 

A. H. ARKLE. 

KEATS, HAMPSTEAD, AND SIR C. W. 
DILKE (11 S.iii. 145, 176). Sir Charles Dilke 
promised the Keats relics to the Chief 
Public Library at Hampstead : and there 
is no question of these going to any Branch 
Library or to the British Museum. 

H. K. H. 
[MB. M. L. R. BBESLAB also thanked for reply.] 

BENJAMIN GARLIKE (11 S. iii. 88). Ben- 
jamin Garlike was admitted to the honorary 
degree of Doctor in Civil Law, on Friday, 
6 July, 1810, at Oxford. 

F. M. R. HOLWORTHY. 

* Memoirs of the late Benjamin Garlike, 
Esq.,' will be found in The Gentleman's 
Magazine for June, 1815, pp. 564-5. The 
London Magazine might also be consulted 
at the British Museum Library. 

LIONEJ, SCHANK. 

MEW OR ME WES FAMILIES (US. iii. 105). 
Benjamin Hannam of Caundle Purse, who 
was brother of James Hannam, in his will, 
dated 17 August, proved P.C.C. (37 Darcy) 
4 November, 1581, mentions William Mew 
as his brother's " servant," to whom he had 
entrusted an inventory of the residue of his 
goods. If this William Mew is to be iden- 
tified with the Middle Templar admitted in 
1598 as fourth son of Peter Mew of Caundle 
Purse, deceased, he must have joined the 



Inn at an unusually late age, and his father 
was possibly the Peter Mewes who married 
Jane, daughter of John Buckler. According 
to Mr. Buckler's ' Bucleriana ' (p. 1, citing 
the registers of St. Margaret, Westminster), 
this John Buckler died in 1540. 

FRANCIS P. MARCHANT. 
Streatham Common. 

There is a pedigree of the descendants 
(not the ancestors) of Ellis Mews, the father 
of the Cavalier bishop, in Wilson's * Parish 
of St. Laurence Pountney,' p. 249. This 
pedigree seems to some extent to lack veri- 
fication. 

The register of St. Andrew's, Holborn 
(not published), contains the following 
marriages : 

1589. June 17. Thomas Mew and Joan 
Castell. 

1597. July 9. Thomas Mew and Anne 
Egleton. 

The register of Long Sutton, Somerset 
(published in Mr. Phillimore's series), con- 
tains the following : 

1601. June 11. William Meawe and Eleanor 
Gardiner, both of Upton. 

1616. April 12. John Cox and Christian Mew. 

1627. Oct. 29. John Wilmouth and Alice 
Mew. 

ALFRED SYDNEY LEWIS. 

Library, Constitutional Club, W.C. 

AMERICAN WORDS AND PHRASES (11 S. 
iii. 48, 172). Stifel. The reference, no 
doubt, is to the stifle (perhaps connected 
with " stiff "), which is " the joint of a horse 
or other animal next to the buttock, and 
corresponding to the knee in man." When 
a strain or other accident affects the stifle, 
it seriously disables a horse, and may 
permanently depreciate its value. See Halli- 
well, * Archaic Dictionary,' s.v. * Stime.' 

Stocking feet. Whether it is peculiarly 
Scottish or not, this expression certainly 
occurs in Scotland. Among the peasantry 
stocking feet are sometimes used as a sub- 
stitute for over-shoes, and they may even be 
worn when there are no shoes at all. 

THOMAS BAYNE. 

Stocking feet. This saying is in common 
use all over England. I have known it in 
Yorkshire for nearly sixty years. Thackeray 
says it is Sc9ttish ; see 3 S. ix. 118, 267, 336, 
378. Many instances are given in ' E.D.D.,' 
v. 776. W. C. B. 

Stocking feet. This is quite usual in the 
border counties. You "go to bed in your 
stocking feet " if you leave your shoes 
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habit. It is also a joke to tell an olde 
brother or sister they " will have to dance 
in their stocking feet " at a wedding of 
junior member of the family. M. N. 

Read out. Is not this probably traceable 
to a Stock Exchange phrase, formerly 
perhaps still, existent, meaning to try t( 
ascertain by the expression of a man' 
features what his intentions are ? The man 
consequently, of a political party who hac 
been "read out" would be " outed." He 
was excommunicated. In North Yorkshire 
such a person is "read out o' t'chotch,' 
i.e., the church. In Hunt's 'Popular 
Romances of the West of England,' " He 
left the * people ' that he mightn't be reac 
out." Also as regards the provincial pro 
nunciationof " church," "t'chotchwardner ' 
(i.e., the churchwarden), in North Yorkshire 
counts the money collected at the offertory. 

Squab-boat would, I think, bs an awkwardly 
built sailing vessel, of which some skippers 
would not be proud. 

A stifel may have been a horse-name for 
the carrying capacity of a packhorse, but 
whether the word be of Dutch or German 
origin I am unable to say. The provincial 
English stive, to stuff, from the Old French 
estiver, says Dr. Skeat, means to pack tight, 
and from the same root with stifle, sixteenth- 
century Scandinavian from Icelandic stifla, 
to dam up, choke. Possibly a stifel horse 
was one that had its legbone put out or the 
joint much hurt. The " stifle joint " was 
known as the first joint of a horse, and 
bending next the buttock and over the thigh. 

Stocking feet. This is by no means an 
exclusively Scottish expression as examples 
of its use in the 'E.D.D.'will show: "He 
pulled off his boots and slipped away in his 
stocking feet " (Keith, * Bonnie Lady,' 1897, 
114). When a younger sister marries first, 
in the North of England, it is jocularly 
said to the elder ones, " Ala, now you will 
have to dance in your stocking feet " (3 S ix. 
336) ; " Desin, thoo knas, war in his stockin' 
feet" (Robison, * Aald Taales,' 1882). 
This was in Cumberland, and the expression 
appears to have been originally a north of 
England one rather than Scotch, and pre- 
valent in Yorkshire, Nottinghamshire, North- 
umberland, Berwick, Perthshire, and Lin- 
colnshire. 

Toe the mark. Would not this be a phrase 
descending to us from the days of archery ? 
I do not, however, find any instance of its 
use at this earlier period. To toe the line, 
scratch, or mark is nowadays to begin or 



resume a task or undertaking, as a race, a 
fight, in which competitors are obliged to 
keep within, or go no further than a chalk 
mark. Hence, colloquially, to stand up to 
one's obligation or duty. To " face the 
music " is a phrase of similar meaning. 

Tunket. Perhaps this was " as cold as a 
Tonquin (Chinese) pig." Such a small, short- 
legged, fat pig of the Chinese build, or any 
small pig with an upturned snout, was known 
in Northamptonshire, Notts, Lines, and 
Leicestershire as a " tunkey," " tunky," 
or " tonkey " pig. 

Tussey boys. " Tussey " is an obsolete 
word (West Yorkshire) for a low, drunken 
person ('E.D.D.'). 

Whitehead. Would this be a White Cap, 
a self-constituted regulator and corrector of 
morals in the United States from 1889 to 
1890 ? 

Whitewash. I do not know whether it is 
so now, but any one who formerly passed 
through the bankruptcy court was said to 
have been whitewashed. There was, how- 
ever, another sense, American, in which 
the term was used, which will be found 
in Barrere and LslancV's ' Dictionary of 
Slang,' 1897. 

York waggon. The York waggons from 
York to London were familiar to seventeenth- 
century travellers. Possibly the New York 
people also used them. 

J. HOLDEN MACMlCHAEL. 
[ScoTcrs and T.F.D. also thanked for replies.] 

NEWENHAM ABBEY, DEVON (11 S. iii. 70, 
110). Further information about the regis- 
ters of this abbey will be found in ' The 
History of Newenham Abbey, 1 by James 
Davidson, 1843, which, if J. K. F. has not 
seen it, I shall be happy to lend him. 

E. A. FRY. 

227, Strand, W.C. 

NAPOLEON PRINT (11 S. ii. 390).- 
tfapoleon was appointed General in Chief 
of the Armies of Italy in February, 1796. 
The drawing referred to was probably exe- 
cuted in Paris before he set out to assume 
he command. It is likely to have been made 
>y the celebrated painter David. Napoleon 
was 28 years old in 1796. W. S. S. 

JOHN HUDSON (11 S. iii. 9). In the ' Post 
Office Directory ' of 1820 the name of 
' John Hudson, Paper-hanger & Print - 
eller," appears at 85, Cheapside. 



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Dumfries and Galloway Notes and Queries, Part I., 
Series I. (Dumfries, Courier and Herald 
Office.) 

IN September, 1909, the editor of the Dumfries 
and Galloway Courier and Herald arranged for a 
discussion of local matters in the form of notes 
and queries, and his scheme straightway de- 
veloped into a very popular and substantial 
feature of his journal. After a year's experience, 
the publishers are justified in their conclusion 
that the contributions thus secured constitute an 
agreeable miscellany which fully merits separate 
publication. The working plan is practically 
that of ' N. & Q.,' although occasionally what 
is substantially a lecture on a native theme takes 
the place of the standard "note." Political 
and literary history, genealogy, place-names, 
folk-lore, and so forth, are treated luminously 
and well, many of the discussions having not only 
local value, but also general importance. The 
writers are not always exhaustive in stating 
references. One, for instance, has a note on 
Burns's ' Lines Written on the Back of a Bank- 
No te,' and quotes the verses as if he gave them for 
the first time. He should have said that they 
appeared in The Morning Chronicle and The Edin- 
burgh Magazine in 1814, and were afterwards in- 
cluded in complete editions of the author's works. 
Another contributor writes on Helen Walker, 
the prototype of " Jeanie Deans," and, while 
admitting that the significant part of his com- 
munication " has been published before," 
omits to state that it is a slightly revised version 
of the narrative prefixed by Scott in 1830 to 
' The Heart of Mid-Lothian.' 

A Book of Light Verse. Edited with Notes by 

B. M. Leonard. (Frowde.) 

WE noticed with pleasure the author's ' Pageant 
of English Poetry.' The present collection, which 
is available in several elegant bindings and in 
each case at a moderate price, is similarly com- 
prehensive, and we share the verdict of a judicious 
friend, who is also an old reviewer, that it is 
likely to prove a source of perpetual pleasure. 
The " musa jocosa " of the past has not been 
overdone of late years, and Locker-Lampson's 
' Lyra Elegantiarum,' on which this volume 
largely relies, is the best of foundations. Al- 
together, there is abundance of matter both 
familiar and known to but few. No living writers 
are included, but the harvest of the past is rich 
enough to occupy many a fireside evening. The 
.notes explain obscurities, and supply some lite- 
rary judgments of interest, though these are in 
some cases rather examples of prejudice than fair 
criticism. A list of authors and an Index of 
First Lines are given conveniences that ought 
to be always added to such collections as this. 

Fragrance Among Old Volumes. By Basil 

Anderton. (Kegan Paul, Trench & Co.) 
THE papers which Mr. Anderton has here re- 
printed from some of the minor magazines in 
which they first appeared are of slight texture, 
and we cannot take them so seriously as the 
author does. Indeed, we find it difficult to dis- 
cover their raison d'etre, as they hardly possess the 



charm of style which would atone for the flimsi- 
ness of their matter ; and we doubt if they will 
be of interest to many outside the circle of the 
author's friends. There are some good reproduc- 
tions of old cuts, by Bewick and others, but 
otherwise the illustrations are amateurish. The 
example of " early Church poetry " quoted from 
St. Bernard (p. 85) is really derived from the 
Vulgate of Ecclesiasticus xxiv. 29. 

The West Riding of Yorkshire has been added 
to the " Little Guides " of Messrs. Methuen. All 
wise travellers know the value of these guides with 
their compact and easily accessible information ; 
and for ourselves, we thank Mr. Joseph E. Morris 
for his well-illustrated descriptions 'of, and com- 
ments on, a country which is full of the beauties 
both of art and nature. The Yorkshire dales 
should not be missed by any lover of England. 

IN The Cornhill for March Canon Vaughan, 
whose writing we always read with pleasure, has 
an excellent article on* ' The Authorized Version 
of the Bible.' He quotes Dr. Scrivener's remark 
that " never perhaps has a great enterprise of a 
like nature been carried out with less knowledge 
handed down to posterity of the labourers, their 
method, and manner of working." The revision 
occupied two years and nine months, but the 
exact date of publication in 1911 is not known. 
The Version, especially in the New Testament, 
bears " the impress of the genius of Tyndale," and 
it is just this greatness of rhythm which, we may 
add, the Revised Version utterly misses. Canon 
Vaughan reproduces various tributes to the in- 
comparable book and quotes from Prof. Cook, 
without giving the source of the passage, the 
' Cambridge History of English Literature,' 
usages which have become part of the ordinary 
speech of the people, and are not generally recog- 
nized as biblical. Mr. A. C. Benson has an 
admirable subject in ' Professor Newton,' who 
was described by a friend of his as having " all the 
characteristics of John Bull." The Professor wore 
the oldest clothes ; insisted on verifying his 
references ; would not have a single lady in the 
College Chapel ; objected strongly to the intro- 
duction of an organ ; and left strict injunctions 
that there was to be no music at his own funeral. 
He loved to have his way, and generally got it, 
dominating the small society of Magdalene 
College. He was useful, Mr. Benson indicates, 
as a drag on hasty changes and sentimental 
theories. ' The Subaltern ' has a lively account of 
life in the Persian Gulf and Busra, and Mr. G. M. 
Trevelyan affords new light on Garibaldi as com- 
mander of the forces of Montevideo in South 
America. This information comes from the 
papers of Sir William Gore Ouseley, a diplomat 
who was sent on a special mission to Montevideo. 
This authority says that a brave, worthy, and 
upright man has been misrepresented by contin- 
ental enemies. Garibaldi came to see him late at 
night in a Poncho, for he was busy all day pre- 
paring orders, maps, &c., and could not afford to 
purchase lights for his own use. The Poncho con- 
cealed the dilapidated state of his clothes, for 
he did not get his proper pay, and declined the 
title of General and the rewards offered by the 
Montevidean Government, as Mazzini explains 
in a letter here quoted, probably of 1846. Mazzirii's 
hopes of future eminence for Garibaldi were fully 
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The Literary Paper this month is on Lewis 
Carroll. The previous one of Browning has, it 
appears, been answered correctly by six people. 
We are not surprised, and think it would be well 
to have a certain amount of questions which 
demand critical ability rather than the mere 
knowledge of facts and references which assiduous 
search can secure. 

IN The Nineteenth Century, as in many other of 
the magazines, there are articles ' For and 
Against the Declaration of London.' Mr. Noel 
liuxton has an interesting account of ' Young 
Turkey after Two Years,' and is able to find solid 
advance in civilization of various kinds as the 
result of the new rule. An important point for 
the foreigner is that " freedom of travel is 
immensely enlarged." The Vice -Provost of 
Eton, considering ' The Position of the Laity in 
the Church of England,' would have them hold 
a stronger position in parishes as a check on 
autocratic clergy. But we doubt very much if 
the ordinary layman of the English Church is keen 
enough to belong to a board or select vestry 
which holds frequent meetings. It is this apathy 
which renders desirable plans inoperative. ' The 
Censor, and other Tales,' by Dr. Max Meyerfeld, 
exposes once more, from a foreign point of 
view, the futility and stupidity of the present 

Practice of licensing pieces for the stage. Dr. 
oseph Jastrow writes interestingly on ' The Will 
to believe in the Supernatural,' and Sir Bay 
Lankester as militantly as usual on ' Compulsory 
Science versus Compulsory Greek.' This last 
article would gain by a more moderate tone. 
It is full of " question -begging " epithets and 
phrases. ' Yeoman Hopkins : One Asset in 
our Armour,' by Major-General Sir W. G. Knox, 
gives an account of the sort of thing expected from 
a raw young farmer turned Territorial, and inci- 
dentally touches on the dangers of invasion of 
this country. An elegant article in French on 
' Charles Baudelaire et FEsth^tique de la Deca- 
dence ' is by M. Andre Beaunier. 

IN The Fortnightly, after some political articles, 
we come on ' Christina Rossetti,' by Mr. F. M. 
Hueffer, who writes with just appreciation of the 
powers of that remarkable poetess. He says that 
he told her of a very strong feeling that after 
Tennyson's death she should become Laureate. 
Mr. Hueffer abuses Ruskin roundly, and we 
trace here, as elsewhere in his writing, a bitter- 
ness which is unpleasing. Mr. Filson Young has 
an elaborate article on ' The Musician as Com- 
poser,' which should attract attention. We 
cannot, however, accept his division of music 
into "vertical" and " horizontal," which seems to 
us fanciful, and also to ignore the scientific 
principles of sound as developed, for instance, by 
Helmholtz. His summary of the sorts of modern 
music as musical translations of literary ideas, 
" absolute " music, and musical hypnotics, seems 
much more effective. ' Some Criticisms on the 
< 'ollection of Income Tax ' is well worth study, for 
Mr. A. M. Latter shows that officials deliberately 
claim more than they have a right to by law, and 
arc otherwise prejudiced against the taxpayer 
who has not a chance of being heard and judged 
by an impartial authority. Mr. G. C. Nuttall on 
' Eugenics and Genetics ' writes very good sense : 
unfortunately, it is sense that has not yet reached 
tin? ear of the general public, which is hardly 



encouraged by seeing the excesses of those who 
should know better. Doctors and teachers of 
science, men of light and learning, are not de- 
terred from forming unsuitable unions. Mr. T. A. 
Cook has an interesting account of ' The Develop- 
ment of Swordsmanship ' among Englishmen, 
while Miss Elizabeth Robins is enthusiastic in 
' A New Art of Travel ' about two books by Miss 
Gertrude'JL. Bell. We share the enthusiasm, though 
we see no advantage in Miss Robins 's fantastic 
staccato style. Mr. Francis Gribble is very enter- 
taining in his account of ' The Theatre Franc,ais 
in the 'Fifties,' run by ArseneHoussaye, appointed 
by his friend Rachel in spite of the protests of 
comedians. Further interesting articles in a well- 
varied number are ' Bjornstjerne Bjornson,' by 
Mr. Robert Machray ; ' How Primitive Round 
Houses became Square and Oblong,' by Mr. W. 
Shaw Sparrow, and ' Memories of Fort Chabrol,' 
by Mr. J. F. Macdonald, to whom the Sidney 
Street affray has suggested a record of the defence 
by Jules Gu^rin of his massive house as an Anti- 
Semite protest. The siege actually lasted thirty- 
seven days in 1899. 

IN * The National Review, ' Episodes of the 
Month ' are treated with the usual vigour of 
expression, and a " Unionist Free Trader " pro- 
ceeds to find holes in ' A Democratic House of 
Commons, 1906-1910.' Mr. Austin Dobson, has 
one of his elegant and informative articles on 
' Eighteenth-Century Stowe,' and Miss H. Rein- 
herz discovers that ' The Girl Graduate in 
Fiction ' has been inadequately pictured. So 
has the man graduate, and the reasons are not 
far to seek. Mr. H. C. Biron has a commendation 
of ' The Genius of Mr. Thackeray,' in which he 
deprecates the views of some modern critics. 
His article is well phrased, but we should hardly 
call it critical. It is rather the pleasant exposi- 
tion of an old admirer who does not care to 
analyze his faith. Mr. D. C. Lathbury in ' Ele- 
mentary Education ' puts some questions which 
seem to us much to the point. 

Ix The Burlington Magazine the Editorial 
articles deal with ' Recent Appointments ' and the 
announcement of the authorities of the Bedford 
General Library that they intend to sell, for purely 
pecuniary reasons, Bunyan's copy, in three 
volumes, of Foxe's ' Martyrs,' used by him in 
Bedford Gaol. It is pointed out that these volumes 
were purchased in 1841 by public subscription and 
presented to the Bedford Library, and we agree 
in thinking it " astounding " that public 
property of the sort should be put on the market. 
Mr. Roger Fry ' On a Profile Portrait of Baldo- 
vinetti,' shows his admirable powers of connoisseur- 
ship, while Sir Martin Con way has an interesting 
and well illustrated article on ' Diirer and the 
Housebook Master.' The drawings considered 
are of special moment as belonging to the period 
of Diirer's Wandcrjahre. Mr. F. W. Hasluck's 
' Genoese Lintel-Reliefs in Chios ' and Dr. C. H. 
Read's 'Plato's "Atlantis" Rediscovered' are 
both also well illustrated. The latter refers to the 
discoveries of a German traveller, Dr. Frobenius, in 
Ife, the sacred capital of the Yoruba country, 
in the English colony of Southern Nigeria. The 
sacred heads figured are of interest, and seem to 
indicate a technique beyond the negro ; but the 
article offers little to justify its title, which is 
due, apparently, to the German explorer. Herr 
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' Towards a Grouping of Chinese Porcelain,' and 
there is a fascinating page of illustrations of ' Old 
Marcasite Jewellery ' discussed by Mr. Dudley 
Falcke. The name indicates a mineral which is 
really pyrite. The reviews in the number, as 
usual, are well worth attention. 



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Catalogue contains autographs, manuscripts, and 
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Philip Sidney, 15L 15s. ; and a collection of MSS. 
of the Marquis Wellesley, 101. 10s. Under Words- 
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division of the Catalogue is devoted to documents 
arranged topographically. Under Staffordshire 
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wanting), bound in modern black morocco, 281. 
Under John Evelyn is a collection of autographs 
of people mentioned in the Diary, 61. 10*. A 
list of the names will be sent on application. 
Under Louis XIV. is an apparently contemporary 
MS. account of the reign, 1643 to 1650, 31. 3s. 
There is a copy of ' Epicteti Stoici Philosophi 
Enchiridion,' 1670, which belonged to Isaac 
Watts, with notes by him, 2,1. 2s. The items in the 
Catalogue number 344, and are all fully described. 

Mr. Bertram Dobell has in his Catalogue 193 
some choice autograph letters, including those of 
Dickens, Hood, Mrs. Fitzherbert (" Perdita "), 
Sheridan, Tennyson, and Horace Walpole. 
Among first editions are * Peregrine Pickle,' 
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CONTENTS. No. 64. 

NOTES : Totell, Sir Antony St. Leger, and John Harington, 
201 The Arrest of Louis XVI., 203 Gray's ' Elegy,' 204 
Reform of the Calendar, 205 Flood Superstitions"! 
f eg s _ White Meats : Wigs : Af ternooning In Black 
and White Cadie=Caddie, 206. 

QUERIES : Terrace " Secular trees " " Sedulous ape " 
"Seekers" Macaulay's Allusions Bedfordshire 
Epitaphs : Rev. Robert Smyth Geffery le Bakester de 
Loffithe Book Inscriptions' Waverley ' : Departed Hero 
and the Sun's Lingering Light, 207 Plaistow and its 
Products Sonnets by Rafael Miles Gale Murder on 
Gad's Hill in 1661 Early English Bookbindings Battle of 
Barnet Dogs on Brasses and Stone Effigies, 208 Double 
Dedications Emperor and Painter Thomas Jenner 
The Lords Smeaton and Smeaton Family Sir John 
Toinlinson Hibbert Sandy Mackaye in ' Alton Locke ' 
Hertford Street Historic Fires in Ancient Rome H.M.S. 
Pactolus Meg Dods and 'The Cook and Housewife's 
Manual,' 209. 

REPLIES : London Gunsmiths, 210 " Almighty Dollar" 
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the Bush 'Canons, Middlesex, 214-Mansel Family- 
Thomas James Thackeray Baptismal Scarf, 215 
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fini Family' Les Arrivants' Litany : Spitting and 
Stamping the Feet, 217 Thomas Morris-JonesMother's 
Maiden Name as Children's Surname Pitt's Letter on 
Superstition, 218. 

NOTES ON BOOKS: 'The Complete Poems of Emily 
Bronte.' 

Booksellers' Catalogues. 

Notices to Correspondents. 



TOTTEL' S 'MISCELLANY,' 

SIR ANTONY ST. LEGER, AND SIR 

JOHN HARINGTON THE ELDER. 

THE reason why so little progress has been 
made in discovering the authors and history 
of many of the unclaimed poems in Tottel 
is not the difficulty of research or want of 
material, but lack of interest in the matter. 
It seems almost shameful that a piece by 
Chaucer should have lain undiscovered in 
this collection of songs and sonnets for more 
than 350 years, despite the fact that the 
book is in almost everybody's hands and 
that Chaucer's work is so well known. And 
as regards material, there is no lack of it, 
for in those old days most people of culture, 
especially those about Court, used verse as a 
common medium to circulate their thoughts 
and opinions of things amongst each other, 
with the result that to-day we possess an 
enormous mass of the poetry they wrote, 
much in print, but still more in manuscript. 



It ought not, therefore, to be impossible to 
name the authors of poems in Tottel and in 
similar miscellanies, especially as names are 
sometimes appended to the fugitive pieces 
that passed privately from hand to hand, 
and that the originals of other posms are to 
be found at times in the works of well-known 
writers. 

I will try to show now that the search for 
such authors is sometimes only a surface 
matter, as in the case of Chaucer's poem, 
and that Tottel is no more to be trusted 
than other miscellanies of the same charac- 
ter. Tottel' s ascriptions to Surrey are 
accepted for gospel, and he would be a hardy 
man who would dispute them without over- 
whelming evidence of a contrary character. 
The strange thing about it all is that the 
evidence against Tottel has been available 
for more than a hundred years, and has been 
passed by because a meddling editor, who 
did not know the value of evidence, chose 
deliberately to put it in the background as 
much as possible, and to substitute for it 
matter which he had picked up in odd 
corners. But I am anticipating, and will 
return to this side of my subject a little 
later. 

There is no doubt whatever as to the pert 
played by Sir Antony St. Leger in Tottel. 
He it was who wrote the epitaph on Sir 
Thomas Wyatt the Elder, Tottel, p. 228 : 
Lo dead he lives, that whilome lived here, &c. 
The only strange thing about the matter is 
that Dr. Nott and others should print the 
epitaph as the composition of Sir Antony 
St. Leger, and fail to notice that it appears 
amongst the " Uncertain Authors " in 
Tottel. There are two versions of this 
epitaph, the one printed in the ' Works of 
Wyatt,' Aldine Poets, p. 236, reading as 
under: 

Sir Antonie Sentleger of Sir T. Wyatt. 
Thus lieth the dead, that whilome lived here 
Among the dead that quick go to the ground ; 
Though he be dead, yet doth he quick appear 
By immortal fame that death cannot confound 
His life for aye, his fame in trump shall sound. 
Though he be dead, yet is he thus alive : 
No death that life from Wyatt can deprive. 
Dr. Nott's version corresponds word for 
word with the epitaph printed in Tottel, his 
heading only being different : 

An Epitaph 

on 
Sir Thomas Wyatt the Elder, the Wise, the 

Learned, 

and the Good, 

By Sir Anthony St. Lieger. 

Sir Antony St. Leger, then, takes his place 

by the side of Chaucer as one of the authors 



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who had a hand in Tottel. It is interesting 
to find that it was to another " Anthony 
Sentleger, of Oakham, in Kent, Esq.," 
that Massinger dedicated ' The Unnatural 
Combat.' Massinger states that this 
Anthony's father, Sir Warham Sentleger, 
was " a master, for his pleasure, in poetry," 
and that father and son were generous 
patrons of men of his profession. 

I turn back now to where I cut myself 
short, to deal with the claims of Sir John 
Harington the Elder. 

In 1804 Thomas Parke edited a new 
version of ' Nugse Antiquae,' which had been 
compiled from family MSS. by the Rev. 
Henry Harington, some twenty years or more 
previously. Parke thought he could improve 
upon Harington by adding fresh matter 
to ' Nugae Antiquae,' and no doubt he did 
so ; but his improvements went too far, for 
he left out of his edition of the work several 
interesting pieces of ancient prose as well as 
all poems printed by Harington which he 
had traced to Tottel's ' Miscellany.' With- 
out staying to examine the headings of 
some of these poems, and ignoring altogether 
the circumstance that the readings of the 
Harington poems differed in many points, 
and are in several instances more correct 
than those in Tottel, he bundled them 
out and took credit to himself for having 
performed a very smart piece of work. 
Parke' s act was nothing less than a 
piece of vandalism, for it turns out that 
not only was the old ' Nugae Antiquse ' 
compiled from MSS. in the handwriting of 
the two Sir John Haringtons, but that these 
MSS. put Tottel and ' The Paradise of Daintie 
Devices ' right where they are wrong ; and, 
moreover, they prove that the older Haring- 
ton was a poet of no mean order, and the 
author of at lea it four of the Tottel poems, 
one of which has been given wrongly to the 
Earl of Surrey, besides being the writer of a 
piece which is paraded in * The Paradise of 
Daintie Devices ' above the signature of 
Lord Vaux. 

When I saw the value of the Harington 
evidence, I asked myself, Why has not this 
been made use of before ? Why has not 
Sir John Harington been added to the 
ustof Tottel's authors ? And how do editors 
of Surrey's poems reconcile their author's 
claim to a poem which Sir John Harington 
expressly declared to be his own and written 
by him at a certain time and in peculiar 
circumstances ? It would seem that 
Parke' s ignorant meddling had been but too 
successful, and that his edition of * Nugae 
Antiquae ' had swamped the Harington 



version of the work, for editors of Surrey and 
Wyatt ignore ^ the existence of the latter, or 
only consult it when it suits their purpose 
to do so. 

There is a piece in ' The Paradise of 
Daintie Devices ' which commences 

The life is long, which loathsomely doth last, &c. 
The compiler has signed this poem " D. S.," 
and it has been assumed that the 
initials belong to Dr. Sands, or Sandys, who 
afterwards became Archbishop of York. I 
have never seen any proof advanced that 
Dr. Sands had written or was capable of 
writing verse, and the younger Sir John 
Harington, in his ' Additions ' to Bishop 
Godwin's ' Catalogue of Bishops,' does not 
give the least hint of such a thing, although he 
seems to have been intimately acquainted with 
his life and with the doings of members of 
Dr. Sands's family. He may, however, 
have dabbled in poetry in his early days, 
though it seems very strange that the young 
Sir John Harington does not say so : the 
point is that the poem referred to just 
previously was not written by anybody 
owning the initials "D. S.," but was by Sir 
John Harington the Elder. The paternity 
of the poem is not open to the least doubt, 
for Sir John Harington tells us when he 
wrote it, and where. In 'Nugae Antiquse' 
it is printed thus : 

Elegy wrote in the Tower by John 

Haryngton, confined with the Princess 

Elizabeth, 1554. 

The lyfe is long, which lothsomely clothe last, 
&c. 

Parke did not know that this poem was 
also in Tottel, among the "Uncertain 
Authors," and therefore he copied it from 
Harington' s book, and enabled me to see at 
once that he had been bungling all through. 
The Tottel poem occurs in Arber, pp. 129- 
130, and contains three stanzas not in 
' Nugae Antiquae ' ; and the version of it in 
' The Paradise of Daintie Devices ' has the 
same number of stanzas as Tottel, although 
Tottel and ' Nugae Antiquae ' agree in parts 
where both differ from ' The Paradise of 
Daintie Devices.' An instance of this is to 
be found in the following stanza, which 
' England's Parnassus ' copied from Tottel 
and ranged under "Death" : 

Death is a port, whereby we passe to joy. 

Life is a lake, that drowneth all in pain. 

Death is so dere, it ceaseth all annoy. 

Life is so leude, that all it yeld.es is vayn. 

And as by life to bondage man is braught : 

Even so likewise by death was fredome wraught. 

There are only small differences in the 
last two lines of the * Nugae Antiquae ' poem, 



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whereas ' The Paradise of Daintie Devices ' 

has several verbal changes : 

Death is the doore whereby we drawe to joye, 
Life is a lake that drowneth all in paine : 
Death is so dole it seaseth all awaie. &c. 

'England's Parnassus' makes matters 
worse by ascribing its quotation to the Earl 
of Surrey, thus proving once again how un- 
reliable are some of the signatures in these 
old anthologies. 

This evidence establishes the elder Harmg- 
ton's claim to one poem in Tottel's " Un- 
certain Authors." CHARLES CRAWFORD. 

(To be continued.) 



THE ARREST OF LOUIS XVI. 

WHEN Louis XVI. was recognized, at 
Varennes, in his abortive attempt to escape 
into Belgium, Sauce, Attorney of the 
Commune (or Maire), drew up a proces 
verbal of the arrest, which has been carefully 
preserved in the municipal archives, and 
previous to 1855 it had been transcribed 
by Lamartine only. But in that year 
the Rev. G. M. Musgrave was allowed 
to take a copy, of which he has given the 
condensed substance, "without a single 
alteration," in the following translation: 
The 23rd of June, 1791, Varennes. 
The first Proces Verbal of the arrest of the King and 
of the Royal Family at Varennes. 

There are scenes in life which the feelings of 
men can far more accurately realize than their 
thoughts, and the impressions left by which ex- 
haust all the conceptions of the most lively 
imagination. Of such a nature was the scene of 
which this town has just been rendered the 
theatre. 

On Tuesday, 21st of June, at 11 P.M., the 
Attorney-General of the Commune was suddenly 
informed by a courier [Drouet] from St. Mene- 
hould, that two carriages, which it was found 
i i npracticable to detain at Clermont, would shortly 
arrive at Varennes, and it was believed that they 
contained a charge in trust very precious to 
overy French heart. Upon the arrival of these 
(.images almost immediately afterwards, the 
Attorney-General of the Commune demanded 
of the party inside their passports. A passport 
\vas handed over to him bearing the signature 
of Montmorin, and granted to the Baroness de 
Kroff and family, en route to Franckfort. 

The night was dark, and the townspeople were 
astir ; and the Attorney-General took occasion to 
observe to these yet unknown parties in the two 
carriages, that the disturbance thus arisen, the 
darkness of the night, and consideration for their 
safety dictated the course of not pursuing their 
journey at this hour, and he suggested their accom- 
panying him to his own residence. 

They were eleven in all : five in one carriage 
two in another, and four on horseback, as escorts 



Having alighted at the Attorney-General's 
louse, they stated that it was their intention 
;o go to Montmedy, not to Franckfort ; and as 
;hough French hearts, ever wont to hold in dear 
regard the person of their king, were certain to 
recognize his presence, directly the demonstra- 
ions of love and respect we so earnestly mani- 
'ested were offered, he exclaimed : 

" Yes, I am the King : There is the Queen and 
;he Royal Family ! I am come to reside among 
you, in the bosom of my children : I am not 
abandoning them." 

The tender sympathy and emotion of all 
jarties present blending with that expressed by 
;he King, the monarch and his august family 
condescended to embrace all the citizens who 
were in the apartment, and to receive from them, 
n turn, the same manifestations of their lively 
and heartfelt affectionateness. At this moment 
an individual arrived, stating himself to be an 
aide-de-camp of Monsieur de Bouill6 [Marquis, 
governor of Metz and Alsace], and demanding 
x> speak to the King. Being introduced by the 
Attorney-General of the Commune, and asked 
the King what his name was, he replied : 

" 1 am Coquillard." [Goguelot.] 

" Well and good," said the King. " When 
are we going ? " 

" I await your orders, Sire." 

And the orders were given with concurrence 
of the Attorney-General and this officer. 

The King, nevertheless, manifested anxiety 
:,o set off, and at several intervals asked if his 
horses were ready. A mob of townspeople, and 
of the inhabitants of the immediately adjoining 
villages, had, meanwhile, begun to crowd the 
streets of Varennea ; and the intelligence of the 
King's arrival had been conveyed even to distant 
localities. There was a general rush, akin to all 
those impulses of joy and tender anxiety with 
which, in the midst of loud expressions of eager- 
ness, a large family would make such feelings 
known, upon finding a father who had been long 
missing, and whom they dreaded losing again ! 

The municipal officers of the town felt that they 
had only to direct the King's attention to such a 
spectacle such a scene of moving sympathies 
and disquietude to awaken the kindly feelings 
of his heart. They urged that, loved as he was 
by his people, his throne was in all their hearts 
his name in all their mouths ; but that the place 
of his abode was Paris, to which capital the 
anxious and urgent prayers of the provinces, 
at the present period of discord and alarm, were 
calling back their chief, and all the citizens their 
sire ; that the safety of the State depended on the 
completion of the scheme of the Constitution, 
and the safety of the Constitution itself was 
vitally connected with his return ; that blest as 
they were in the existence of his personal virtues, 
the French people felt their individual happiness 
derivable from his own personal well-being ; and 
that their acutely feeling and affectionate hearts 
would never recognize the pledge and assurance 
of such felicity, but in the inseparable participation 
of its enjoyment with him. 

Meanwhile a detachment of the Hussars of 
Lauzun arrived, thrown with all precipitation 
into Varennes. Another, a German regiment, 
that had been in garrison at Stenay, and a troop 
from the neighbourhood, were reported to be on 
their way. The first-named evinced the most 



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Amicable feelings towards their fellow-citizens. 
After repeated demands on the part of the 
King [as to pursuing his journey], the municipal 
officers held a general council, when, just as they 
were assembling, an aide-de-camp from Monsieur 
de La Fayette [colonel of the National Guards of 
Paris] arrived in the town, bringing a decree 
of the Assembly, or rather, it might be said, of the 
prayers and wishes of all France, that the King 
should return. The townspeople urgently be- 
sought the King to consider what bloodshed and 
misery might result from his departure, and what 
happiness would ensue on his return that all 
Paris, the National Assembly, and France at 
large, would greet with the most enviable welcome 
this fresh assurance of the love he bore to his 
people. 

Yielding, at length, to these passionate and 
urgent expressions of public feeling, the King 
and royal family consented to set off ; and 
towards half-past ten o'clock in the forenoon 
[? 6 A.M.], and amidst those exclamations of the 
multitude which it is so affecting to hear when they 
issue from combined feelings of liberty and loyal 
attachment, the party drove off, surrounded by 
a, considerable number of the townspeople on 
horseback, and by the National Guard, muster- 
ing, on this occasion, for the purpose rather of 
gracing such a triumph of deep feelings, than of 
constituting a mere personal protection. 

The municipal officers who accompanied them 
as far as Clermont were .... [Here follow several 
names.] Musgrave, 'A Pilgrimage into Dauphin^,' 
1857, vol. 1, pp. 206-12. 

A second proces verbal was drawn up, which 
contains some variations from the first, 
having been ordered by the National 
Assembly. F. H. 



GRAY'S ' ELEGY ' : 
TRANSLATIONS AND PARODIES. 

See 2 S. xii. 128; 3 S. i. 112, 197, 220, 
255, 339, 355, 398, 43-2 ; ii. 17, 55, 199 ; 
6 S. viii. 107; ix. 509; x. 37, 112, 239 ; 
8 S. iii. 44 ; 9 S. vii. 8 ; 10 S. ii, 175 ; v. 406. 

II. PARODIES AND IMITATIONS. 
(Concluded from p. 145.) 

English. 

J. B. Fisher. ' The Pettiffogger.' In Town- 
Talk, in 1819 or earlier. Reprinted by Hamilton, 
op tit., pp. 25-6. 

' The Foundlings.' 4to, London, 1763. 

' The Gambler.' In Bgan's ' Book of Sports,' 

1832. Reprinted by Hamilton, op. tit., pp. 27-8. 
Geoffrey Gimcrack, pseud. * Dry Goods : an 

Elegy.' In ' Gimcrackiana, or Fugitive Pieces 
on Manchester Men and Manners,' Manchester, 

1833. Reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., p. 28. 

' Gray's Elegy [a Parody].' (Written in the 
Rooms of the Geographical Society, in the 
Presence of Du Chaillu's Collections.) In Punch, 
1861, xli. 7. 

' Gray's Elegy. (In an Irish Prison.) ' In 
Punch, 2 September, 1882. Reprinted by Hamil- 
ton, op. cit., p. 38. 

H. See above under Corporal Trim. 



M. W. H. ' Elegy written in a City Church- 
yard.' In Hood's Magazine, 1848, pp. 555-8. 

Edward Hamley. ' Reflections in Netley 
Abbey.' In his * Poems of Various Kinds.' 
London, 1796. 

Sir George Hayes. ' A Temple Elegy.' Lon- 
don, [1870 ?]. The British Museum Catalogue, 
until corrected by the writer, ascribed this to 
William Hayes. Reprinted in ' Hayesiana,' 
London, [1891]. 

H. Headley. ' A Parody of Gray's Elegy 
written in a Country Church-Yard ; the Author 
Leaving Trinity College, Oxford, [1786].' In his 
' Poetical Works,' London, 1808, pp.- 24-9. 
When and where was this first published ? 

Hortensius. ' Elegy written 'in a Lingering 
Illness.' In The European Magazine, 1791, 
xx. 305-6. 

Hotspur. ' Elegy in a London Theatre, not 
by Gray.' In Bentley's Miscellany, 1843, xiii, 
554-5. Cf. 3 S. i. 398. 

H. P. Hough ton. ' An Evening Contemplation 
in a French Prison.' London, 1809. Reprinted 
by Hamilton, op. cit., p. 43. 

~' An Imitation of Gray's Elegy. . . .Intended to 
Cheer and Animate the Spirits, instead of De- 
pressing Them,',, &c. [London ? 1860 ?] The 
British Museum copy|is marked 11643. g. 35. 

' An Imitation of Mr. Grey's Ode,' &c. In 
The Gentleman's Magazine, 1775, xlv. 491. 

J. ' Elegy. Written in Drury-lane Theatre.' 
In The Poetical Register, 1808-9, vii. 361-5. 

O. Jaques. ' The Funeral. An Elegy.' In 
The London Chronicle, 12-15 April, 1766, p. 356. 

Edward Jerningham. ' An Elegy written 
among the Ruins of an Abbey.' London, 1765. 

Same. ' The Magdalens.' 2nd ed. London, 
1763. 

Same. ' The Nunnery.' In The Repository, 
1777, ii. 65-70. 

' Lament of the Eminent One.' In The Figaro, 
6 October, 1875. Reprinted by Hamilton, op. 
cit., p. 34. 

' Legs in Tattersall's Yard.' In The Spirit 
of the Age, 1828. Reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., 
pp. 46-7. 

' Lord Mayor's Day. A Mock Elegy.' In 
The Neiv Foundling Hospital for Wit, vol. v. 
1786. Reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., pp. 43-4. 

' Love Elegy. Written at College, Ox- 
ford.' In 'The Poetical Calendar,' 2nd ed., 
1763, v. 119-21. 

Robert Lovell. ' The Decayed Farm-House. ' 
In his ' Poetical Works,' London, 1808, pp. 31-4. 

' Lucubrations in an Apothecary's Shop.' In 
The Mirror, iv. 459. 

' A Lunatic Parody.' In Fun, 1 April, 1865. 
Reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., p. 33. 

A. W. Mackenzie. ' Elegy written in a Country 
Rink.' In ' Idyls of the Rink,' 2nd ed., London, 
1877. Reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., pp. 35-6. 

Marcus. ' Epitaph.' In The London Chro- 
nicle, 27-29 July, 1769 ; reprinted in Ackermann's 
' History of the University of Cambridge,' i. 75. 

W. Mason. ' An Elegy in a Churchyard in 
South Wales.' At the moment of writing this 
is not accessible to me. 

' Meditations on Mr. Barry's New Houses of 
Parliament.' In Punch, 1844, vii. 150. 

Edward Moore. ' An Elegy written among the 

Ruins of a Nobleman's Seat in Cornwall.' In 

The Poetical Calendar,' 2nd ed., 1763, riii. 88-90. 



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William H. Murray. In his ' Occasional and 
Farewell Addresses,' Edinburgh, 1851, pp. 69-70. 
Cf. 3 S. i. 255. 

N. ' Elegy written in a Grub-street Garret.' 
In The Trifler, 1788, i. 65-8. 

S. N. ' An Elegy written in Kensington 
Garden, August, 1787.' In The Gentleman's 
Magazine, December, 1787, Ivii. 1107-8. Loosely 
imitative, 

' Newall's Buildings.' In The Free Lance, 
Manchester. Date desired. Reprinted by Hamil- 
ton, op. cit., p. 42. 

' Night Thoughts.' In The Man in the Moon, 
vol. ii., c. 1848. Reprinted by Hamilton, op. cit., 
p. 30. 

O micron. ' Imitation of Gray. Epitaph on 
Pic Nic, written in a Newsman's Shop.' In The 
Morning Post (date?); reprinted in The Spirit 
of the Public Journals, 1803, vii. 142. 

An Oxonian. See above under Duncombe. 
W. P. ' Elegy written at Florence.' Geneva, 
1785. 

Stephen Panting. ' Four Elegies.' In ' The 
Poetical Calendar,' 2nd ed., 1763, viii. 20-34. 

' A Paraphrase on Gray's Elegy, written on the 
Unfortunate Catastrophe of the late Mr. Henry 
Weston, who was Executed for Forgery, July, 
1796.' London, 1796, 4to. 

' Parnell-egy written in a Westminster Palace- 
Yard.' In Moonshine, 30 April, 1887. Reprinted 
by Hamilton, op cit., pp. 38-9. 

' Parody of Gray's Elegy in a Country Church- 
yard.' In The British Press, 14 September, 1812. 
Cf. 3 S. i. 356. 

' Passage from Lord Grey's Elegy.' In Punch, 
10 September, 1881. 

Thomas Penrose. ' The Curate. A Fragment.' 
In The Gentleman's Magazine, February, 1782, 
lii. 86-7. 

' A Perversion.' In Hamilton, op. cit., p. 42. 
' A Political Parody.' In The British Press, 
14 September, 1812. Reprinted by Hamilton, 
op. cit.. pp. 39-40. 

' The Political Passing Bell : an Elegy written 

in a Country Meeting House, 1789.' Boston, 1789. 

Abr. Portal. ' A Morning Elegy.' In ' The 

Poetical Calendar,' 2nd ed., 1763,' xii. 65-8. 

' An Evening Elegy.' In same, pp. 60-72. 

J. T. R. ' Nightly Thoughts in the Temple.' 
Printed with L. D.'s translation, Chatham, 1806. 
Did it appear earlier ? 

W. R. ' The Long Vacation.' In part in 
' Doing, in London,' 1828. Also in The Mirror, 
28 May, 1831, and in Hamilton, op. cit., pp. 23-4. 
W. Hamilton Reid. ' Elegy on the Waste near 
the Charter-House.' In The European Magazine, 
1701. xx. 306-7. 

' Ruined Halls.' In Punch, 1852, xxii. 255. 
S. ' An Elegy written in St. Stephen's Chapel.' 
In The European Magazine, 1798, xxxiii. 189-91. 
J. S. ' An Elegy. Written at the Approach 
<>f Spring.' In ' The Poetical Calendar,' 2nd ed., 
17(H (sic), iii. 5-8. 

' Tho Scales.' In Quads (date ?). Two stanzas 
quoted by Hamilton, op. cit., p. 42. 

' The S.K. King's Requiem.' In Truth, 11 
November, 1886. Reprinted by Hamilton, p. 38. 
' Supplement to Gray's EK'gy in n Church Yard.' 
First appeared anonymously in an American 
newspaper ; quoted by Stephen Collett ( = Thomas 
Byerly) in ' Relics of Literature,' London, 1823. 

Theoderit. ' Elegy on a Quid of Tobacco.' 
In ' The Annual Anthology,' 1799, pp. 19-21. 



William T. Thomas (pseud. W r . T. Moncrieff). 
' Prison Thoughts. Elegy written in the King's 
Bench,' &c. London, 1821. 

C. E. Tisdall. ' Elegy on a Favourite Washer- 
woman. Mrs. Bridget Mulligan.' In The Elocu- 
tionist, 15 July, 1882. Reprinted by Hamilton, 
p. 48. 

Togatus, pseud. ' An Elegy written in the 
Long Vacation.' In The Goionsman, 1 January, 
1831. Also in Hamilton, p. 26. 

Horace Twiss. ' Elegiac Stanzas on Returning 

at Daybreak from a Ball at Lady 's.' In his 

' Posthumous Parodies and other Pieces,' London 
1814, pp. 49-58. 

Y. ' Elegy on Mr. Maurice Evans.' In The 
European Magazine, 1782, i. 66-7. 

Sir William Young. 'The Camp.' In 3 S. i. 
432-3. 

French. 

Louis de Fontanes. ' Le jour des morts dans 
une campagne.' In Le Magasin Encyclopedique, 
1796, and reprinted in book form. One passage 
imitates a stanza of the c Elegy.' 

Latin. 

Quidam. ' Fragments of Not a Translation* 
but a Loose Distant Imitation of Gray's Elegy. 
In The Gentleman's Magazine, January, 1822, 
xcii. i. 72. 

I have given in each case the earliest 
edition known to me, and shall be glad to 
learn of any earlier editions ; also of any 
other parodies or imitations. 

CLARK: S. NOBTHUP. 

Munich. 



REFOBM OF THE CALENDAK. ' N. & Q.' 
has contained many notes on changes and 
reforms in the calendar, therefore it may be 
well to put on record the following, which 
appeared in The Daily Telegraph of 24 Febru- 
ary : 

REFORM OF THE CALENDAR. 
A NEW BANK HOLIDAY. 

Mr. R. Pearce's bill for the reform of the 
calendar, the text of which was issued yesterday, 
has for its object the regularising of the quarters 
of the year, the adjustment of the days of the 
week and of the month, and the fixing of Easter 
Day and other Bank Holidays and dates depending 
upon Easter. 

To this end the first day of the year will be a 
Bank Holiday, called New Year's Day, but it is 
not to be reckoned as a day of the week or of the 
month or quarter. In other words, it will dis- 
appear from the calendar, and Jan. 2 will become 
Jan. 1. 

The effect of this arrangement will be that the 
year will consist of 364 days, and hence will be 
divisible into four equal quarters of ninety-one 
days each, and into fifty-two weeks of seven days 
each. Each quarter will contain exactly thirteen 
weeks, divided into two months of thirty days 
each and one of thirty-one. Each day of the 
month will always fall on the same day of the 
week.j 



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Ordinary quarter days will not be interfered 
with, and special provisions, as in the Calendar 
Act, 1750, will preserve days of payment, delivery 
of goods, expiration of leases, &c., and coining of 
age. 

To preserve the symmetry of the new system, 
February will be docked of its extra day in leap 
years, and another new Bank Holiday, to be 
known as Leap Year Day, will be inserted between 
the last day of June and the first day of July. 
It also will not count as a day of the week, month, 
or quarter. 

NO MOVEABLE FEASTS. 

Beginning in 1912, Easter Sunday and all the 
moveable fasts, feasts, and dates dependent upon 
it will be fixed so as to fall in every year on the 
same day of the same month, as well as on the same 
day of the week. The proposed dates are as 
follows : 

Ash Wednesday . Feb. 29. 

Good Friday . . . April 12. 

Easter Sunday . April 14. 

Easter Monday . April 15. 

WhitSunday . June 3. 

Whit Monday . . . . June 4. 

Christmas Day, Dec. 25, will always be on a 
Monday. 

Under the new system, March, June, Sep- 
tember, and December will consist of thirty-one 
days, and each of the other eight months of thirty. 
It is proposed that the reformed calendar shall 
a Pply n t only to the United Kingdom, but to all 
his Majesty's Dominions. 

The bill is backed by Sir William Bull, Mr. R. 
Harcourt, Sir J. H. Dalziel, and Sir Albert Spicer. 

BABRULE. 

FLOOD SUPERSTITIONS. An odd belief 
still lingers among the Warwickshire 
peasantry that a flood follows when swans 
wander along the highway. A brood of 
nearly full-grown cygnets recently acquired 
the habit of leaving the upper part of the 
Avon and walking down the Warwick Road, 
here to join the river at a lower point. This 
act is said to have caused a high flood a few 
months ago. Another local theory is that 
the death of the sovereign brings on a flood, 
as witness the highest flood recorded in 
1901, and the last serious one in 1910. 

WM. JAGGABD. 

"I FEGS." Translating 'Pegasus in 
Harness,' in his version of Schiller's ' Poems 
and Ballads,' Lord Lytton makes Hodge 
on the mountain top express himself thus : 
" I fegs," the farmer cries, " what next ? 
This helter-skelter sport will never do, 
But break him in yet I '11 endeavour to." 
Such is the reading of the " Knebworth 
Edition," 1875, and of the reprint issued 
in " The Universal Library " of 1887 under 
the editorship of Prof. Henry Morley. 

" I fegs " as thus given has all the appear- 
ance of being an assertion made in the first 



person, whereas it is an asseveration equi- 
valent to " In faith," and should take the 
form " I' fegs." In the ' Archaic Diction- 
ary ' Halliwell duly enters " Fegs. In 
faith ! South " ; and Jamieson includes 
the word, with definition and illustrations, 
in the ' Scottish Dictionary.' Jamieson 
likewise gives the variants " faik," " faiks," 
and " faikins," and writes : 

" I' fake (provinc. E.) is evidently the same ; 
thus expl. by Thoresby, ' Faith (an oath) ' ; 
Bay's Lett., p. 327. A . Bor. ' i' /a/cins, in faith ; 
an asseveration ' ; Grose." 

It may be added that, if the pronunciation 
of the phrase now current in parts of the 
Scottish Lowlands were phonetically tran- 
scribed, the expression would take the form 
used by Lord Lytton' s Hodge. 

THOMAS BAYNE. 

WHITE MEATS : WIGS : AFTEBNOONING. 
These words occur in the Rev. J. Gother's 
sermon for Quinquagesima Sunday (ed. 
1718): 

" In this Nation it is not permitted, at Collation 
to eat any kind of Fish or Whit-meats ; that is, 
Eggs, Cheese, Milk or Butter : Cakes and Wigs 
are customary, tho' not made without some 
Butter.... As for the Quantity....! think the 
most general Rule may be, of eating as much as 
comes to -the Quantity of an Afternooning at 
other times of the Year [than Lent]." 

J. B. 

IN BLACK AND WHITE. The ' N.E.D.' 
furnishes no early instance of this exact 
phrase, though "under white and black" 
is cited from 'Much Ado,' V. i. 314 (1599). 
It i